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SO, GOOD EVENING I'D LIKE TO CALL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2021-01 TO ORDER REVEREND RICHARD SPELLMAN WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION AND COUNCILMAN DONNY FELIX WILL PROVIDE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALL RISE.
WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE ASSIST REVEREND SPELLMAN I THINK IN A WAY THAT DESERVES AN APPLAUSE JUST GETTING HERE.
NOW I WANT TO KNOW CAN YOU HEAR ME. YES SIR. WHEN I GET IN IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION WITH THESE THESE MASKS ON I CAN'T HEAR PEOPLE AND THEY ALWAYS SIT ME IN A CHAIR UH THAT I'M NOT CLOSE TO A SPEAKER OR OF SOME SORT AND IT IS A JOY TO TO BE HERE AND WE'RE GLAD TO WELCOME YOU TO THIS SECTION OF PALM BAY BECAUSE I LIVE NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE IT USED TO BE IT I COULD RIDE MY BICYCLE HERE WITH NO PROBLEM I DON'T HAVE A BICYCLE I CAN'T RIDE MUCH ANYMORE SO THE LORD HAS BEEN GOOD TO ALL OF US AND SO AS WE BOW OUR HEADS IN PRAYER IN JUST A MOMENT I WANT YOU TO DO SOME SINGING IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT AND YOU DO YOUR BEST AND I'LL DO MY BEST AND WE MAY COME OUT ON DIFFERENT KEYS BUT WE'LL SING THE SAME SONG IF WE GET THE WE'LL GET THE WORDS AND THEY WILL HAVE MEANING TO US LET US BOW OUR HEADS IN PRAYER GRACIOUS GOD OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN YOU WHO HAVE MADE EACH OF US YOU'VE MADE THIS IN YOUR IMAGE IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER WE GET SCATTERED AROUND AND WE THINK WE'RE SOME PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS THAT'S REALLY NOT TRUE WE MAY BE ABLE TO DELIVER CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE SAY WE CAN DO BUT WE MUST ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY PERSON IS IMPORTANT IN YOUR SITE AND WE'RE YOU'VE GIVEN YOURSELF TO US AND AS YOU OPEN THE BOOK OF THE OLD TESTAMENT YOU READ IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH AND THE EARTH WAS VOID THERE WAS NOTHING THERE AND GOD GAVE US WHAT WE HAVE AND YOU SEE ALL THAT HE GAVE AND YOU JUST READ CHAPTER ONE I REALLY WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A HOMEWORK AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW GOD AND YOU KNOW HOW HE WORKS THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND YOU'LL FIND LIFE AND YOU'LL FIND IT ABUNDANTLY EVEN WHEN PEOPLE TURN AGAINST YOU AND DON'T GO THE WAY THAT YOU'D LIKE THEM TO SO HELP US TO KEEP THE MIND AND THE HEART THERE AS WE MOVE ON IN THIS AND SO IN AMERICA THERE'S A SONG THAT LET'S SING TOGETHER GOD BLESS AMERICA THEN WE'LL I HAVE A LITTLE MORE AFTER THAT GOD BLESS AMERICA LAND THAT I LOVE STAND BESIDE HER AND GUIDE HER THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH THE LIGHT FROM ABOVE FROM THE MOUNTAINS TO THE PRAIRIE THROUGH THE OCEAN WHITE WITH FOAM GOD BLESS AMERICA OUR HOME TWEET ALL ONCE MORE GOD BLESS AMERICA MY HOME SWEET HOME FATHER WE DO WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE BLESSING US MAY WE BE A BLESSING TO YOU AND WE SEE WE KNOW OUR OUR WHOLE NATION IS IN TROUBLE AND WE NEED TO CLEAR THINGS UP WITH UH WITHOUT THE BATTLES THAT WE'RE HAVING AND SO AND IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT DONE BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT DONE SO THAT MEANS WE MUST TURN TO YOU WE MUST DO OUR HOMEWORK AGAIN AND READ THE SCRIPTURES BECAUSE YOU SPEAK TO US THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PLACE BUT HERE WE GET THE GENERAL GUIDELINES OF WHAT YOU WANT DONE IN THE WORLD IN WHICH WE LIVE BECAUSE WE DISCOVER THAT YOU REVEALED TO US THAT WE ARE THE SAME GOD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER SO WE HAVE ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DO JUST THAT AND WE PRAY YOUR BLESSING UPON ALL THE FOLKS HERE AND CERTAINLY THOSE FOLKS CAUGHT UNDER STRUGGLE UP IN WASHINGTON WE PRAY FOR THEM
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THAT THE HEALING MIGHT TAKE PLACE WHERE WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO GIVE IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT THERE BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU'LL GIVE US THE GUIDANCE THAT WE NEED IF WE BUT PAY ATTENTION AND BOW DOWN TO YOU AND AND FALL IN LINE TO DO THE THINGS WHICH WILL BRING HONOR AND GLORY FIRST TO YOU THEN TO OTHERS AND FINALLY TO US AND NOW FATHER AS WE THANK YOU COME TO THIS THIS MEETING HERE WE PRAY YOUR BLESSING UPON THE NEW COUNCIL FOLKS THEY'VE COME IN THERE AND I MUST ADMIT TO MYSELF TO YOU OH GOD I CAN'T RECOGNIZE THESE PEOPLE UH AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE I'VE COME INTO A NEW GROUP ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEM THERE BUT WE WE THE MORE WE MEET TOGETHER THE MORE WE TRY TO DO YOUR WILL AND PAY ATTENTION FIRST TO YOU AND LEARN TO LOVE YOU THEN WE'LL FIND LIFE AND WE'LL FIND IT ABUNDANTLY THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE PROMISED AND WE'LL FIND IT THERE SO LET YOUR BLESSING BE UPON US ON OUR COUNCIL FOLKS AND THE GOOD WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY THOSE WHO BACK IT UP WITH THE WORKERS HERE AND ALL THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE COME TO HONOR YOU MAY YOU BE HONORED IN WHAT WE DO HERE MAY WE LISTEN TO YOU HELP US TO SLOW DOWN CATCH UP WITH WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW AND DO AND BE WHILE WE'RE HERE IN THIS THIS GREAT MEETING TOGETHER YOU'RE A GREAT AND WONDERFUL GOD AND WE MUST HONOR YOU SO OUR HOMEWORK IS GET READING THE SCRIPTURES AND WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT GOD WANTS TO DO ONCE DONE AND WE'LL HE'LL GIVE US THE STRENGTH TO DO WHAT HE WANTS US TO DO EACH OF US HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY WE JUST CAN'T SAY THAT THE CITY MUST DO THIS BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE CITY AND HELP US TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE PART OF THE CITY WE'RE AN IMPORTANT PART AND WE MAKE IT LESS IMPORTANT WHEN WE TRY TO STAY BACK AND WE'LL WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME WATCHING THE TV BUT WE NEVER GET MUCH ACCOMPLISHED THERE UH OTHER THAN ORDER A NEW A NEW TV OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO GOD HELP US TO BE YOUR SERVANTS TODAY TOMORROW AND ALWAYS WHILE WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT PALM BAY TO BE A SHINING LOT LIGHT ON ON THIS AREA AND PEOPLE FIND A HOPE IN JOY AND PEACE MAY WE REMEMBER THAT THAT THE GOSPEL HYMN RED AND YELLOW BLACK AND WHITE THEY ARE PRECIOUS IN HIS SIGHT JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S TRUE YOU CREATED EACH AND SO MAY WE LEARN TO HONOR YOU AND BE YOUR SERVANTS AND THE SERVANT OF ALL I'M SURE THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT WE COULD SAY IN RECOGNITION OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE RUN FOR THIS OFFICE AND THEY HAVE IT AND NOW THEY WONDER SOMETIMES WHAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE IT CAN BE TOUGH BUT HELP THEM TO HANG IN THERE AND TO TO MAKE THE WITNESS THAT YOU WANT MADE SO THAT PALM BAY CAN BE A GREAT CITY BUT THEN WE WANT YOU TO BE HONORED BY WHAT WE DO AND SAY AND WE CAN SAY GOD HAS MADE THIS AND WE'RE SO WE'RE SEEKING TO SERVE GOD IN HIS WILL AND WAY THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT CAN BE SAID AND BELIEVE YOU ME I'M GETTING TO THE PLACE WHERE I CAN SAY MORE BUT I WON'T DO IT NOW SO BLESS US AND GUIDE US AND USE US FOR YOUR GLORY YOU'RE A GREAT AND WONDERFUL GOD AND WE LOVE YOU THROUGH YOUR SON JESUS AND BY THE WAY THE EIGHT DAYS OF CHRISTMAS NOW WILL END TOMORROW SO WE CAN STILL CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND CHRISTMAS AND THE FAITH WITH THE COMING OF A BABY BUT ABOUT THREE THREE MONTHS FROM NOW WHEN WE GET TO THE TIME OF THE CRUCIFIXION WE DISCOVER PEOPLE DON'T GATHER WHAT'S THIS GOT TO DO DO WE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS WHAT JESUS HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME OF US WILL HAVE TO DO THAT OR COME CLOSE TO IT SO MAY WE BE YOUR SERVANTS AND THE SERVANTS OF ALL AND MAY JESUS BE SERVED AT ALL TIMES I PRAY IN JESUS NAME AND THEY ALL SAID AMEN AMEN AMEN WELL YOU BETTER JUST TAKE ME ON TO THE BACK SEAT AND I'LL MAKE MY EXIT THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS AND YOUR COURTESY AND IF YOU CAN PICK UP MY MY YOU GOT MY BODY GOTCHA NOW HOW MANY OF YOU BROUGHT YOUR BIBLE OKAY IT'S IT'S GOOD YOU SEE HERE IF I CAN GET TURNED AROUND I CAN PROBABLY WALK A LITTLE BIT THERE YOU GO BUT YOU KEPT ME SEATED[00:10:12]
COUNCILMAN FELIX ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL MISS LEFLER, ROLL CALL PLEASE PRESENT HERE COUNCILMAN BAILEY HERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX MISS SHERMAN HERE MISS SMITH HERE DEPUTY MAYOR[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
THANK YOU MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS PLEASE. YES MAYOR THANK YOU WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOARD REPRESENTS BANK OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION POSITION ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALMBAYFLORIDA.ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT[AGENDA REVISIONS]
THANK 321-952-3414 MAYOR UM WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE AGENDA TO ANNOUNCE ITEM 7 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS THE RESOLUTION FOR CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT'S CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST HAS BEEN REVISED TO INCLUDE THE FULL LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTY ALSO ADDED IS DISCUSSION OF THE POSITION OF CITY MANAGER ADDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER AS ITEM NUMBER NINE UNDER NEW BUSINESS THANK YOU MS SMITH ANY NO SIR DEPUTY MAYOR ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC NO SIR[CONSENT AGENDA]
ANY ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA OR THE CONSENT AGENDA IF NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REVISION OF PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND WITH THE ADDITION OF NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER NINE SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR AYE AYE AYE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY MS SMITH RESOLUTION 2020 2021-01 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA RESCINDING RESOLUTION 2018-51 WHICH AUTHORIZED THE PERMANENT CLOSURE OF WATERBURY AVENUE BETWEEN SUMMER STREET AND TWO LONG ROAD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE[RECOGNITIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS]
OKAY WE'RE UP TO RECOGNITIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS UH PROCLAMATION FOR BUSINESS PARTNER OF THE YEAR PALM BAY WALMART I'M GOING TO CALL UP ALEX DELHAGEN AND SANDY WIGGLY SO UH I'LL DO THE BATMAN STYLE IF WE CAN'T HAVE FUN RIGHT? SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP YES PROCLAMATION CITY OF PALM BAY FLORIDA NOTICING PROCLAMATION OF BUSINESS PARTNER OF THE YEAR 2020. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA THAT WHEREAS WALMART HAS SUPPORTED SEVERAL CITY PALM BAY DEPARTMENTS WITH THEIR EVENTS AND IS ALWAYS WILLING TO DONATE TO ANY PROJECT OR REQUEST FROM THE CITY AND WHEREAS WALMART HAS FULLY SPONSORED FIVE MOVIE IN THE PARK EVENTS AND PROVIDED DVD COPIES OF MOVIES FOR MOST OF THE MOVIE EVENT EVENTS THEY ALSO PROVIDED DECORATIONS FOOD AND DRINKS FOR CITY STAFF AT INDEPENDENCE DAY MOVIE EVENT AT AN INDEPENDENCE DAY MOVIE EVENT AS YOU WERE WHEREAS WALMART DONATED COUNTLESS PRIZES FOR THE ANNUAL GOLF TOURNAMENT INCLUDING A 70-INCH HD TV AND A BARBECUE GRILL WHEREAS WALMART PROVIDED ALL THE LIGHTS AND THE TUNNEL AT THE HOLIDAY AND LIGHT FEST THEY ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE PARADE WITH A LARGE DISPLAY USING TWO SEMIS PLUS A SNOW MACHINE AND IN INFLATABLE DECORATIONS WHEREAS WALMART DONATED A PALLET OF WATER FOR THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA[00:15:07]
THANK YOU WHEREAS WALMART PROVIDED A GRANT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S REINDEER RUN EVENT AND PROVIDED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH HAND SANITIZERS WIPES AND LYSOL AND WHEREAS WALMART SUPPORTED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S LADDER CLIMB AND PROVIDED TABLES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SELL CAMPAIGN SHIRTS FOR FIGHT AGAINST BREAST CANCER AND WHEREAS WALMART ASSISTED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOP WITH A FIREFIGHTER EVENT NOW THEREFORE I ROB MEDINA MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SET OFFICE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT WALMART IS THE S IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S BUSINESS PARTNER OF THE YEAR 2020 AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED ON THE SEVENTH DAY OF JANUARY 2021.CONGRATULATIONS SO I'M NOT GOOD AT THIS KIND OF THING BUT WE'LL MAKE IT WORK SO I CAME HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND UH I ALWAYS KNEW OF SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT SANDY STARTED BEFORE I WAS BORN ACTUALLY SHE'S BEEN DOING IT SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME BUT YOU KNOW COMING HERE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUED TO SPONSOR WAS THE CITY RATHER IT WAS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEF LESLIE BACK THERE YOU KNOW SOMEONE TOLD ME ONCE THAT YOU KNOW HAVING A BUSINESS IN THE CITY IS GREAT BUT YOU'RE ONLY AS STRONG AS THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT REALLY STANDS TALL TO ME BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE REALLY YOU KNOW SETS HEART AND UH STANDS TRUE TO ME ESPECIALLY DURING THESE CHRISTMAS TIMES AND THE TIMES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT LIKE THE REINDEER RUN AND THE CHILDREN AND THE UH THE PARK AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS IS JUST AWESOME AND YOU KNOW I REALLY APPRECIATE UM RECEIVING THAT AWARD AND I I DO APPRECIATE SANDY UM SHE MAKES A LOT OF THIS HAPPEN SHE JUST LETS ME KNOW HEY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING I SAY OKAY SO UM BUT THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN THANK YOU SANDY APPRECIATE IT SHE WOULD DON'T LET ME TAKE THE SPOTLIGHT UM I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO UM FOR THE CITY YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WALMART'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART YOU KNOW WE STARTED OFF ON PALM BAY ROAD IN WEST MELBOURNE THEY MADE SO MUCH BUSINESS THERE THAT WE OPENED THE ONE ON MALABAR ROAD WE NOW UM HAVE DOUBLED OUR UM OUR REVENUE WE'VE DOUBLED OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SO WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO FOR THE CITY AND UM I JUST APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE CAN WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT ALLOWS US TO DONATE TO OUR COMMUNITY THANK YOU GUYS UH UM OKAY MISS SHERMAN PRESENTATIONS,
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THANK YOU MAYOR UM I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY BRING UP NOW TO DO A PRESENTATION UH JOAN UNCALLA BROWN WHO IS OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR I'VE ASKED HER TO PUT TOGETHER A FEW SLIDES AND PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT HER UM HER DEPARTMENT DOES FOR THIS CITY IT'S A FAIRLY NEWLY CONSTITUTED DEPARTMENT WE'VE ADDED SOME SOME DIVISIONS OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO[00:20:04]
AND ALSO SOME OF WHAT SHE WILL SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT WE'LL TEE UP FOR A WORKSHOP THAT WE'RE SCHEDULING WITH COUNCIL UH IN FEBRUARY SO JOAN IS IT BETTER OKAY I KNOW I HAVE A SMALL VOICE SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING GOOD EVENING HAPPY NEW YEAR THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME PRESENT TO YOU ALL TONIGHT LIKE MRS SHERMAN SAID THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW DEPARTMENT WE EXISTED PREVIOUSLY AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EXTERNAL AFFAIRS WE ARE NOW COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT I WANT TO JUST STATE YOU KNOW FOR THE RECORD WE HAVE SOME OF MY TEAM HERE THEY'RE FANTASTIC A LOT OF THEM WANTED TO JOIN TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT IN THIS DEPARTMENT AND THEIR SUPPORT IN AND COUNCIL UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS WE DO WE HAVE A FANTASTIC TEAM WE HAVE KEELEY LEGGETT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER BRITTA KELLNER OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER OTHERWISE KNOWN AS OUR GRANTS MANAGER WE HAVE SANDRA URBAN OUR HOUSING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHRISTINA BOURNE OUR COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR THEY'RE PART OF THE TEAM SO ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT I'M GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU ABOUT WHO WE ARE WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO FOR THE CITY GOING FORWARD SO AS AN INTRODUCTION JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE AND THAT MISSION STATEMENT IS TO FOSTER A VIBRANT DIVERSIFIED AND HEALTHY ECONOMY WITH AN ENHANCED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS PROVIDING FOR A STABLE TAX-BASED BUSINESS AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND COMMUNITY AMENITIES AND AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION YOU'LL SEE WHY THAT IS SO BROAD SO WE ARE DEPARTMENT OF 10 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES I WILL STATE THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY 11 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SECURED A FULL-TIME TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE FROM CAREERSOURCE BREVARD THAT IS HELPING US TO ADMINISTER SOME OF THE CARES ACT DOLLARS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO WE HAVE MYSELF AND I APOLOGIZE IT'S A LITTLE SMALL BUT I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT I LEAD THE TEAM OF WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY THREE DIVISIONS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THEN COMMUNICATIONS I'LL TOUCH ON THE THE FOURTH SO TO SPEAK THAT WE SEE KIND OF COMING UP IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO UM I WON'T READ ALL OF THE THE TITLES THERE BUT YOU'LL SEE WE'VE GOT A SMALL TEAM WE ARE SMALL BUT WE ARE MIGHTY I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS TO YOU THIS IS OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES WE ARE CHAPTER 39 IN THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES AND IT ADDRESSES THREE OF THE DIVISIONS THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS AND AGAIN THERE ARE TECHNICALLY FOUR IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT YOU KNOW WITH RESPECT TO THE GRANTS AND LEGISLATIVE COMPONENT BEING ADDED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ONE KEY COMPONENT HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNICATIONS AND AGAIN THAT GRANTS MANAGEMENT AND LEGISLATION SO I'LL START OFF WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE REASON I STARTED OFF WITH THIS ONE IS I KNOW THAT PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAD A DESIRE TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL GROWTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE REASON FOR THAT BEING TO INCREASE OUR TAX BASE TO TO DIVERSIFY OUR TAX BASE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE MORE SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY SO THE MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION IS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS BY ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PRIVATE CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND JOB CREATION WHILE INCREASING THE TAX BASE OF THE CITY AND I JUST OUTLINED A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS THAT PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT IS WE REALLY DO AND WHAT TASKS AND INITIATIVES WE DO ARE MEANT TO TO FACILITATE FOR THE CITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS TO ENHANCE AND DIVERSIFY THE LOCAL TAX BASE THROUGH ATTRACTING NEW PRIVATE CAPITAL INVESTMENT FACILITATE NEW PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND WE DO THAT BY ATTRACTION RECRUITMENT OF NEW BUSINESS AND RETENTION EXPANSION OF OUR EXISTING BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIES HERE IN PALM BAY FOSTER REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TARGETING AREAS OF SLUM AND BLIGHT AND WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS HOUSED UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION LEVERAGE CITY SURPLUS REAL ESTATE FOR FAVORABLE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO JUST SELL THE PROPERTIES WE HAVE WE REALLY WANT TO SEE THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN BE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING FAVORABLE THAT WOULD GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S A A LARGE BUSINESS THAT'S EMPLOYING OUR RESIDENTS WHETHER IT'S A TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES AN AMENITY TO THE COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOT THAT WE KNOW WILL BE DEVELOPED AND NOT JUST SIT VACANT UNMOWED SO THAT'S THE INTENT THERE PROMOTE THE PALM BAY PROMOTE BOMBAY AS THE PLACE TO DO BUSINESS BY IMPLEMENTING BUSINESS FRIENDLY PRACTICES AND MAYOR YOU KNOW WE RECENTLY PUT OUT A COUPLE OF OR DRAFTED A COUPLE OF LETTERS TO WELCOME NEW BUSINESSES TO THE COMMUNITY WE DRAFTED A LETTER THAT WILL GO OUT WITH THE BUSINESS TAX RENEWALS AND THE INTENTION OF THAT IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE BUSINESSES HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND YOU KNOW WE SHOULDN'T BE LETTING THEM JUST KIND OF OPERATE IN THEIR OWN SILOS WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THEM MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE HERE THAT WE WANT TO[00:25:02]
RETAIN THEM HERE AND WE WANT TO SEE MORE OF THOSE BUSINESSES COME INTO THE COMMUNITY WE ALSO SERVE AS A LIAISON FOR BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPERS TO INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL REGULATORY AGENCIES AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS REALLY WE ARE WANTING TO ENSURE THAT BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY ARE MET WITH A FACE A FACE THAT IS FRIENDLY THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED THAT WELCOMES THEM TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT ONLY WELCOMES THEM BUT ALSO ENSURES THAT WHATEVER HURDLES THEY ENCOUNTER IN DOING BUSINESS OR DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WILL HELP GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS WHETHER THAT'S WITH OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHETHER IT'S CHALLENGES OR HURDLES WITH NAVIGATING PLANNING AND ZONING OR WHETHER THAT'S WITH AN OUTSIDE AGENCY WHETHER YOU KNOW THE ST JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OR FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND AND THEN FINALLY THE COORDINATING WITH LOCAL RESOURCE PARTNERS TO ELIMINATE IMPEDIMENTS TO STARTING OR SUSTAINING BUSINESSES INDUSTRIES AND JOBS AS WELL AND WE DO THAT WITH PARTNERING WITH OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE AGENCY OUR CHAMBER AND A LOT OF THE OTHER RESOURCE PARTNERS PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY THAT IS OUR WAY OF PROVIDING THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT GUIDANCE TO THE BUSINESS TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN SUSTAIN AND GROW AND AND WE WE DO THAT WITH THE INTENTION OF NOT TO FAIL THEM BUT TO HELP THEM SUCCEED THE SECOND DIVISION IN THE DEPARTMENT IS THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY HOUSED UNDER GROWTH MANAGEMENT IN I BELIEVE THE END OF 2019 IT WAS MOVED OVER TO COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE INTENTION OF THAT WAS TO BRING TOGETHER A DEPARTMENT THAT SERVES THE CITY OVERALL WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTS OR BUSINESSES SO WE HAVE THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION MISSION STATEMENT WHICH IS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS BY ADMINISTERING HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GRANT PROGRAMS THAT FOSTER STABILITY SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND CREATE AND SUSTAIN DECENT AFFORDABLE DECENT SAFE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE DO THAT THROUGH THE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE RECEIVE THROUGH SHIP CDBG AND NOW I'M GOING TO READ THE ACRONYMS HERE IN A MINUTE HOME NSP AND RECENTLY THROUGH OUR CARES DOLLARS SO WE HAVE THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE PROGRAM AND THAT PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO INCREASE AND SUSTAIN SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP WE HAVE PROGRAMS FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WE HAVE PROGRAMS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME REHABILITATION AND EMERGENCY REPAIR FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOW IN MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT IS A COMMUNITY IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS THAT ASSIST LOW AND MODERATE-INCOME RESIDENTS THE AIM IS TO ELIMINATE SLUM AND BLIGHT AND WE DO THIS THROUGH INCREASING PUBLIC SERVICES TO COMMUNITIES TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE EITHER PROVIDING YOUTH PROGRAMS PROVIDING CASE MANAGEMENT FOR THE HOMELESS WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCIES THAT ARE AWARDED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ALLOCATIONS THROUGH CDBG TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THOSE RESIDENTS UNDER THE HOME PROGRAM IT IS INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP SIMILAR TO OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE UNDER THE SHIP PROGRAM AND PROVIDES FOR TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PROVIDING BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO INTEGRATE INTO OUR PROGRAMS NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM ADDRESSES ABANDONED AND FORECLOSED HOMES WHILE INCREASING PERMANENT HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS THE VOLUNTARY HOME BUYOUT PROGRAM IS A NEW RELATIVELY NEW PROGRAM IT IS IT IS A FOCUSED PROGRAM IT'S FUNDED THROUGH GRANTS THAT THE CITY OBTAINED THROUGH FEMA'S HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM AND THE LOCAL MATCH WHICH IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT DISASTER RECOVERY AND THAT IS INTENDED TO ACQUIRE 13 HOMES ON CIMARRON CIRCLE WHO HAVE SUFFERED REPETITIVE LOSS AND THAT THAT REALLY WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY SEEKING THE CITY'S ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT IN IN IDENTIFYING HOW THEY CAN GET PAST THIS REPETITIVE FLOOD LOSS DUE TO UH HURRICANES AND THEN FINALLY ONE THING THAT'S NOT ON THE POWERPOINT BUT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE YOU KNOW BEEN GIVEN AND AND TASKED WITH IS IS THE CARES ACT DOLLARS WE HAVE THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUND THAT WE RECENTLY JUST CLOSED THAT WAS KARZAK DOLLARS PROVIDED TO THE CITY FOR RENT UTILITY MORTGAGE RENT MORTGAGE UTILITY ASSISTANCE WE HEARD THAT WE WILL PROBABLY GET ANOTHER UH PACKAGE OF FUNDS AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REOPEN THAT PROGRAM TO UTILIZE THE REMAINDER OF THOSE FUNDS WE HAVEN'T HEARD YET BUT WE'RE WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN OFFER THAT TO THE COMMUNITY FINALLY UNDER THE CARES ACT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WAS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CORONAVIRUS FUNDS AND THAT IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING ALLOCATIONS AND ALMOST ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SERVICES TO THOSE WHO ARE FACING HARDSHIP DURING THE COVEN 19 PANDEMIC COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION THE FACE OF THE CITY OUR BRANDING ARM OF THE CITY UM THEY[00:30:01]
THE COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION IS TASKED WITH ALL OF THE OUTWARD-FACING PUBLIC-FACING UH MATERIALS AND BRANDING AND TELLING THE WORLD WHO WE ARE TELLING OUR COMMUNITY WHO WE ARE AND AND THEIR MISSION STATEMENT IS TO FACILITATE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND COLLABORATION THROUGH DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION TO RESIDENTS BUSINESSES AND STAKEHOLDERS AND THEY DO THAT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS THEY COORDINATE WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO GATHER AND DISSEMINATE INFORMATION ON CITY-LED PROGRAMS PROJECTS INITIATIVES NEWS EVENTS LIKE RIBBON CUTTINGS THEY DISTRIBUTE TIMELY INFORMATION TO RESIDENTS ON VARIOUS TOPICS USING A VARIETY OF OUTLETS TO INCLUDE LEVERAGING OUR MEDIA PARTNERS PRESS RELEASES E-NOTIFICATIONS THE WEBSITE SOCIAL MEDIA PRINT MEDIA DIGITAL MARKETING CABLE AND NEWS RADIO THE TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING AND MANAGING THE CITY'S CONTACT FOR CONTENT FOR ALL PUBLIC FACING MATERIALS AS WELL AS MEDIUMS AND COORDINATES WITH DEPARTMENTS TO PREPARE PUBLIC ADVISORIES AND RESPONSE TO MEDIA INQUIRIES THEY'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR STRATEGIC MARKETING OF THE CITY AS A DESTINATION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENTS BUSINESSES AND VISITORS AND THEN I WILL SAY DURING COVEN 19 THE TEAM OF FOUR WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER OUR COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR OUR WEB ADMINISTRATOR AND OUR TECHNICAL EDITOR THEY WERE WORKING TIRELESSLY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY OUNCE OF NEWS THAT CAME OUT ABOUT KOVIT EVERY UPDATE THAT CAME OUT ABOUT COPED WAS HIT IN THE WEBSITE FACEBOOK PRESS RELEASES WHATEVER WE COULD TO DO WHATEVER WE COULD DO TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER KEELEY LEGGETT PROVIDED ME WITH A COUPLE OF STATS THAT I THOUGHT WERE PRETTY INTERESTING SO I'M GOING TO SHARE THEM JUST BRIEFLY WITH YOU AND I'LL JUST HIT THE KEY ONES WE HAVE SEVEN MEANS FOR REACHING OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH NOTIFICATIONS AND EMAIL INCLUDING FACEBOOK INSTAGRAM TWITTER NEXT DOOR CONSTANT CONTACT E-NOTIFICATIONS AND EVERBRIDGE THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS OVER TWELVE THOUSAND FOLLOWERS ON FACEBOOK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS OVER TWENTY THREE THOUSAND FOLLOWERS ON FACEBOOK NEXT DOOR HAS OVER NINETEEN TOTAL NINETEEN THOUSAND TOTAL MEMBERS THE CITY HAS SENT OVER NEARLY 8 000 UM I'M SORRY HAS NEARLY 8 000 SUBSCRIBERS AND HAS SENT NEARLY A QUARTER OF A MILLION NOTIFICATIONS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS SO IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE WHAT THE TEAM IS IS ABLE TO DO AND THEN FINALLY IN THAT AND NOT LAST BUT NOT LEAST OUR GRANTS AND LEGISLATIVE WHAT WE CALL THE OFFICE OF GRANTS MANAGEMENT OR GRANTS MANAGEMENT OFFICE RITA KELLNER JOINED OUR TEAM JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO SHE WAS TASKED WITH PROVIDING ASSISTANCE FOR GRANT APPLICATION IDENTIFYING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND THE INTENT OF THAT REALLY IS TO LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE GENERAL FUND SO THE GRANT WRITING AND LEGISLATIVE POSITION WAS INTENDED TO SEEK AND APPLY FOR STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IDENTIFY LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES SUCH AS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WATER QUALITY PROJECTS AND SEEK STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FOLLOWING DECLARED DISASTERS AS WELL THIS ROLE IS ALSO REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT THAT ARE THAT THERE IS COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROGRAM SO COORDINATING WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE RECEIVED THE GRANT AWARDS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT STATE OR FEDERAL GRANT AND FINALLY COORDINATES WITH THE CITY STATE LOBBYING FIRM SO FOR INSTANCE THIS EVENING WE HAD THE BREVARD LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION MEETING AND WE WORKED WITH OUR STATE LOBBYING FIRM SUNRISE CONSULTING GROUP IDENTIFIED KEY PRIORITIES TO PRESENT TO THE LEGISLATORS AND HAD THAT PRESENTATION THIS EVENING ONE THING THAT WE DO THAT'S NOT OFTEN TOLD IS EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND ASSISTANCE AND WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH KOVID TYPICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HURRICANES THAT'S NOT THE CASE RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW IT'S COVERED 19 AND THE WAY WE DO THAT IS COORDINATION WITH OUR COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER OUR BREVARD COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ALL THE OTHER LOCAL RESOURCE PARTNERS THAT ARE TRYING TO YOU KNOW HELP THE COMMUNITY DURING DURING THIS PARTICULAR EMERGENCY OUR DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING FOUR BOARDS WE HAVE THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT SUNSETS IN 2024 THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WHICH IS RELATIVELY NEW AND THAT IS INTENDED TO FUND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND JOBS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD WHICH SERVES AS THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THAT REALLY IS TRULY INTENDED TO GUIDE HOW WE USE THE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAMS AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE RECENTLY THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD SO LOOKING AT CREATING A SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN FOR THE CITY[00:35:08]
THIS SLIDE IS A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED IT SHOWS I THINK EIGHT FUNDS WE TECHNICALLY I THINK HAVE ABOUT 10 NOW A LOT OF THESE FUNDS ARE GRANT FUNDS SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT HOME GRANT SHIP GRANT THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL FUNDS AS THEY NEED TO BE BUT THOSE ARE NINE PLUS FUNDS THAT THIS THIS DEPARTMENT MANAGES AND OVERSEES TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROGRAMS AND THAT IS ALL ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON UM I'M JUST A FEW COMMENTS AND A QUESTION AS WELL UM THANK YOU SUZANNE AND THANK YOU JOAN AND EVERYBODY WHO ATTENDED FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT UM FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THIS DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE SMALL BUT IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DEPARTMENTS HERE IN THE CITY UM YOU LIKE YOU YOU SEE US FOR UH FIVE MALE COUNCIL BUT THESE WOMEN ARE GETTING THE JOB DONE UM SO LIKE STARTING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW INCREASING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY BRINGS MORE TAX BASE TO SPREAD ACROSS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS BUT ALSO HELPS US OUT IN REGARDS TO LOWERING OUR MILLAGE RATE SO WE CAN COMPETE WITH CITIES LIKE MELBOURNE WEST MELBOURNE TITUSVILLE THAT HAVE A HIGHER BUSINESS PERCENTAGE THAN US HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT I'VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF THE SECOND BUILDING AND THESE WOMEN ARE HEART HARD WORKING AND TRYING TO HELP THESE CITIZENS AND WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE ALL OF OUR CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF PALM BEACH A LOT OF THEM ARE HURTING AND NEED ASSISTANCE WITH THE CARES DOLLARS THEY'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY YES SOME OF THEM ARE THERE'S SOME HICCUPS ON THE WAY THIS MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN SIGNED THIS PAGE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SKIPPED BUT I'VE SEEN THEM IN ACTION AND THEY'RE PATIENT AND THEY'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH ALL THESE UM RESIDENTS AND COMMUNICATION KEELEY AND CHRISTINA I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BECAUSE WHAT BETTER WAY TO BRING TRANSPARENCY THAN TO MAKE SURE YOU PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE AND THAT GOES ALSO TO 142 PRODUCTIONS WHICH IS OUT HERE RIGHT NOW AND UM THE PALM BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST GRANTS SAVING DOLLARS COUNCILMAN BAILEY'S PROBABLY LICKING HIS CHOPS ON THAT ONE BUT BUT SAVING DOLLARS YOU CAN'T BEAT IT SO THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE I KNOW YOU JUST ADDED ANOTHER POSITION BUT THIS MOSTLY IS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DO YOU FEEL WITH THE STAFF YOU HAVE YOU'RE GOOD GOOD ENOUGH OR DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO MORE WITH MORE ASSISTANCE MORE STAFFING OR IN REGARDS TO YOU KNOW SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORG CHART I DON'T KNOW IF MY MIC IS WORKING BUT THE ORG CHART SHOWS TWO DIVISIONS PREDOMINANTLY PUBLIC INFORMATION COMMUNICATIONS AND HOUSING HOUSING ALWAYS NEEDS MORE ASSISTANCE WE HAVE SO MANY PROGRAMS SO MUCH MONEY SO MANY APPLICANTS THAT ARE COMING IN THE DOOR ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WE REALLY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT AND IF WE IF WE DON'T GET ONE MORE POSITION AT LEAST I THINK THERE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME STRUGGLE ALONG THE WAY UM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IT'S MYSELF AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING DANIELLE'S PROMOTION AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANT RIGHT NOW IT'S HARD TO REACH OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHEN WE'RE SO INUNDATED WITH THE CARES DOLLARS AND THE HOUSING PROGRAM FUNDS AND TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW MAINTAINED IN COMPLIANCE I'M ONE PERSON DANIELLE IS ONE HALF PERSON SHE'S HER HER RESPONSIBILITIES ARE SPLIT BETWEEN ADMIN RESPONSIBILITIES AND AND SHE'S BEEN TAKING ON A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUFF TO ASSIST ME ALONG THE WAY UM SO THERE IS ANOTHER POSITION NEEDED UM AND DOWN DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER GRANT'S POSITION IF WE CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS WE MAY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THAT I KNOW THAT KEELEY HAS EXPRESSED ASSISTANCE WITH CONTENT BUILDING CONTENT AND GETTING IT OUT FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE YOU KNOW SHE MIGHT BE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF PRESS RELEASES AND THEN YOU KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENS THE CHAMBER FLOODS A FAR EXPLOSION HAPPENS AND THAT TAKES HER AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO BUILD THAT CONTENT SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A NEED FOR AT LEAST FOUR POSITIONS I'M IN THE SHORT TERM TOO BUT I WOULD SAY WE'RE SMALL WE'RE MIGHTY WE COME TO WORK EVERY DAY SAYING WE'VE GOT THIS CAN-DO ATTITUDE WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE BUT IF I'M BEING HONEST ABSOLUTELY WE NEED MORE POSITIONS THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOSTER THANK YOU TOO THANK YOU MAYOR UM WHAT WHAT IS YOUR GOAL TO I'M VERY INTERESTED IN ATTRACTING MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND MANUFACTURED BUSINESS TO PALM BAY DO YOU HAVE A PLAN OR WHAT IS YOUR GOAL SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR RESOURCE PARTNERS SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS TASKED FROM THE STATE TO RECEIVE ALL THOSE STATE LEADS FOR THE FOR THE LARGER EMPLOYERS SO THE MANUFACTURING COMPANIES[00:40:04]
FOR THE LARGER ENGINEERING FIRMS LIKE LIKE HARRIS FOR EXAMPLE AND WE RELY ON THEM TO CAPTURE THOSE LEADS AND REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND TELL US YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S LOOKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND THEY WANT TO BRING YOU KNOW A HUNDRED A HUNDRED JOBS AT YOU KNOW FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLAR AVERAGE SALARY AND WHEN WE EXTEND ESTABLISH THAT RELATIONSHIP IT ALLOWS US TO GET A BITE OF THAT PIE AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING COMING UP WITH THE EDC TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN TERMS OF LAND WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND TO TALK ABOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO MAKE TO COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 11TH FOR INCENTIVES AND INDUCEMENTS THAT IS GOING TO BE AN INTEGRAL INTEGRAL PART OF HOW WE CAN ATTRACT MORE BUSINESS TO THE CITY I I KNOW SOME SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE WE DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO AN EXTENT I DO THINK WE CAN STAND TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MONETARY BUT I WANT TO REVISIT THIS DISCUSSION ON BRINGING FORTH INCENTIVES OR INDUCEMENTS TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO ATTRACT LARGE EMPLOYERS JOBS AND AND DECENT WAGES OKAY THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX ANYTHING I'D JUST LIKE TO UH THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION THANK YOU SO MUCH THANKS FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO THANK YOU SO I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT BOTH DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID UH OUR COMMERCIAL BASE THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THIS COUNCIL AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING UH AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO INCREASE THAT YOUR MEETINGS WITH THE EDC THE WORKSHOP THAT'S ENSUING WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THESE OPPORTUNITIES YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WE NEED TO DISCUSS THOSE INCENTIVES OPEN THAT UP HAVE A DISCUSSION AND SEE WHERE THE CHIPS FALL ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I THINK I WANT TO ECHO IS YOUR TEAM IS JUST OUTSTANDING YOU WERE SMALL AND MIGHTY BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY ESPECIALLY WITH KEELY AND CHRISTINA AND WHAT AN OUTSTANDING TEAM YOU HAVE AND AND WHAT A GREAT FOUNDATION TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT SO I'M SURE WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS WE PROGRESS WITH OUR WORKSHOP OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP IN PARTICULAR AS WELL AND WE'LL SEE HOW WE WE HANDLE THAT IN THE FUTURE BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU I WANT TO ECHO COUNCIL'S SUPPORT OF OF WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED SO THANK YOU THANK YOU COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE TEAM DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ANY PUBLIC COMMENT PASTOR KEN DELGADO[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
KEN DELGADO PALM BAY 154 ANGELO ROAD GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE GREAT JOB REVEREND SPELLMAN UH TODAY IT WAS WONDERFUL AND I'M JUST HERE BECAUSE I GUESS I DID MY HOMEWORK AND READ PART OF THE BIBLE AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THIS IN REFERENCE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND AND I'M PALM BAY PROUD I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M PALM BAY PROUD UH IT'S I WAS READING ISAIAH 58 6. AND HE TALKS ABOUT FASTING ALTHOUGH MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY DOES THAT BUT WE COULD JUST SAY ONE WAY OF LIVING HE SAYS FREE THOSE WHO ARE WRONGLY IMPRISONED LIGHTEN THE BURDEN OF THOSE WHO WORK FOR YOU LET THE OPPRESSED GO FREE REMOVE THE CHAINS THAT BIND PEOPLE SHARE YOUR FOOD WITH THE HUNGRY GIVE SHELTER TO THE HOMELESS GIVE CLOTHES TO THOSE WHO NEED THEM AND DO NOT HIDE FROM RELATIVES WHO NEED YOUR HELP AND THEN THERE'S A PROMISE IT SAYS THEN YOUR SALVATION WILL COME LIKE THE DAWN AND YOUR WOUNDS WILL QUICKLY HEAL YOUR GODLINESS WILL LEAD YOU FORWARD AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD WILL PROTECT YOU FROM BEHIND I WOULD JUST SAY BOY IF WE GRABBED HOLD OF THIS TYPE OF LIVING AND MAYBE BECAUSE NOW I'M HITTING 67 I'M BECOMING MORE LIKE SPELMAN AND JUST THINKING YOU KNOW RETROSPECTIVELY AND AND MAYBE I COULD LOOK TO BE LIKE HIM WHEN I GROW UP BUT JUST IF WE WERE TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND UH AS WE UH CONTINUE WITH PALM BAY AND CERTAINLY WE JUST HEARD AN EXAMPLE HERE AS THEY HELP THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED WHAT A GREAT WAY TO RUN A SWI CITY AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU ALL AS YOU LEAD US FORWARD IN THIS GREAT CITY CALLED PALM BAY JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT THOUGHT WITH Y'ALL THANK YOU GREAT NEW YEAR[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
WE'RE ENTERING UH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS UH PORTION OF THE AGENDA MISS SMITH ORDINANCE ORDNANCE 2020-58 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA[00:45:09]
AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDNANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 170 CONSTRUCTION CODES AND REGULATIONS SUB-CHAPTER BUILDING CODE BY ELIMINATING THE REQUIREMENT FOR BUILDING PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES 120 SQUARE FEET OR LESS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DEALINGS AND REVISING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UH TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMAN BAILEY YEAH ONE SECOND HEY MAYOR I DON'T WANT TO ADD TOO MUCH TO IT UM YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY I APPRECIATE COUNCIL SUPPORT LAST TIME AND STAFF FOR WORKING SO HARD AND DILIGENTLY AND COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WAS UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED UH THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING INDUSTRY AND BUILDING CODE AND FOR STAFF FOR BACKING IT UM AND AND PNZ AS WELL SO ANYHOW I JUST YOU KNOW FOR ME THE MAIN TOPIC IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE ANY UNNECESSARY REGULATIONS OR SLOW DOWN THE WORK OF UH INDIVIDUALS OR BUSINESSES UH WHO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS REGARDING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT UM WE SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN A GREAT NEED FOR UH PLANS REVIEWERS INSPECTIONS THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO BE DONE UM WHENEVER I WENT THROUGH A PRETTY BIG ANALYSIS LAST YEAR WITH NO MISS SHERMAN UH MR BRADLEY IT WAS RIGHT WHEN UM UH MR VALENTINO CAME ON BOARD UM LAST SUMMER BUT WE WERE PAYING ABOUT 78 I THINK 78 OR 79 BUCKS AN HOUR IS WHAT WE FOUND FOR THE OUTSIDE WHICH IS QUITE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING ON THE INSIDE AND THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS TRYING LIKE YOU SAID NO DEPUTY MAYOR HITS IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD UH FIND WAYS MAYBE WE COULD EVEN SHAVE BACK SOME OF OUR COSTS BECAUSE IF WERE HAVING TO PAY 39 I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THEY COULD PROBABLY DO TWO OF THOSE IN AN HOUR OF THESE SHEDS AN HOUR AND THAT'S YOU KNOW ABOUT 39 BUCKS A PIECE SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE UM THAT WE'RE SHAVING OFF TOO SO I THINK THERE'S A PHYSICAL IMPACT AS WELL BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS JUST TRYING TO SAVE HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP ANYONE WANTS WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM SEE NONE I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UH COUNCIL I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MAYOR MAKE A MOTION MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020-58 FOR FINAL READING IS THERE A SECOND SECOND YOU KNOW I'D LIKE TO COMMENT UH COUNCILMAN BAILEY YOU YOU BROUGHT THIS FOURTH AND AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THIS ORDINANCE I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE HARD WORK THAT THAT COUNCIL HAS UH BEEN LED BY YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR AYE AYE ANY OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS YOU WERE YEAH COUNCILMAN FELIX JUST FOR THE RECORD I JUST WANT TO MAINTAIN MY UH MY UH POSITION ON THAT UH YOU KNOW THE SAFETY ASPECT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME SO I MAINTAIN MY UH MY MY POSITION AS A NAVAL COPY THAT SIR PASSES FOUR TO ONE ITEM TWO MISS SMITH ORTON IS 2020-85 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BAVARIA COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE III ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 39 COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY INCLUDING ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION AND ADDING THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AS A DEPARTMENTAL DIVISION PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING MR SHERMAN UH THANK YOU MAYOR THIS IS THE UM SECOND FINAL READING FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE THESE ARE VERY MINOR CHANGES TO REFLECT THE CURRENT RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IT INCLUDES THE UPDATE TO REFLECT THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM SEEING NONE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED COUNSEL WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020-85 FINAL READING SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY DISCUSSION[00:50:07]
I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR AYE 20-86 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE IX GENERAL REGULATIONS CHAPTER 92 NOISE BY MODIFYING DEFINITIONS CONTAINED THEREIN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEPARABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING MR SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR THIS IS ALSO A FINAL READING FOR THIS ORDINANCE THESE ARE SOME MINOR UPDATES TO DEFINITIONS IN THIS UH CHAPTER 92 WHICH RELATES TO NOISE UM SPECIFICALLY THERE WERE CORRECTIONS TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO CLARIFY AND MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE DEFINITION OF A WEEKDAY VERSUS THE WEEKEND WOULD BE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WHICH WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM SEEING AND HEARING NONE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED COUNSEL WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE ORDINANCE 2020-86 FINAL READING SECOND SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CALLING THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR AYE HI ITEM NUMBER FOUR MS SMITH ORDNANCE 2020-87 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDERS ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUB CHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY MODIFYING FRONT YARD BUILDING SETBACKS AND PARKING AREAS AND REDUCING THE MINIMUM SIDE CORNER BUILDING SETBACK IN RC RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO COUNCILMAN BAILEY YEAH MAYOR THIS IS FURTHER TRYING TO REMOVE REGULATORY ROADBLOCKS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON MALABAR I THINK IT'S PRETTY COMMON SENSE INTO BRINGING THE DISTRICT INTO ALIGN WITH OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THEY'RE UP AND DOWN MALABAR UM AND AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME GOOD DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE AREAS HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR YOU KNOW SINCE BEFORE I WAS HERE SO COPY THAT IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM STEP FORWARD THANK YOU BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST I HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THIS ONE I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS HOPEFULLY THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL BE CORRECTED WHEN WE GET THE NEW ZONING OF THE CITY WORKED OUT AND WE GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING OF ALL THAT BUT THE OTHER ONE IS WHEN WE START SHORTENING THE DISTANCE AT THE OR THE SETBACK THAT MEANS THAT'S THAT LAND IS USED AND TO MAKE IT VERY IMPOSSIBLE OR VERY HARD NOT IMPOSSIBLE THAT FOR SOME REASON IF WE HAVE TO START WIDENING THIS ROAD MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY PREDICTING THAT WE'VE CUT INTO THAT BUFFER THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD WHICH I CAN SEE I MEAN MAYBE NOT IN MY LIFETIME BUT I CAN SEE IT SHORTLY WITHIN THEREAFTER THE MALABAR ROAD WILL BE WIDENED EVEN AGAIN JUST BY THE SIZE OF THE WAY THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS GROWING IT'S JUST JUST SHY OF ORLANDO AND IN THE LAND MASS AND YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO US SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM EVENTUALLY SO WHEN YOU MAKE WHEN YOU START CUTTING AWAY WHAT BUFFER YOU HAVE EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE NO BUFFER TO TAKE SO THEN YOU HAVE TO BUY THE ENTIRE BUSINESS IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE ROAD THAT'S ONE THING THE OTHER THING THAT I'M WATCHING WITH THIS ONE IT'LL COME INTO PLAY MORE WITH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU START PUTTING BUSINESS BUSINESSES CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAT THE SETBACK CAUSES MORE OF A TRAFFIC PROBLEM ALSO I UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL OBJECTIVE YOU WANT THE DEVELOPERS TO CUT IN BUSINESS TO COME IN AND MAKE USE OF FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY BUT I CAN SEE A NEGATIVE SIDE BY WHEN YOU START SHORTENING THAT BUFFER OF LAND MASS IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A SEVERE SHORTAGE OF LAND IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY IT'S JUST WELL WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAT'S THERE'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU MR SHERMAN UH THANK YOU MAYOR YEAH THE MAJORITY OF THESE RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT REMAIN[00:55:05]
UNDEVELOPED ARE IN THE PORTION OF MALABAR THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WEST OF THE EMERSON CONNECTION AND KIND OF ENDS AROUND THE MINTON AREA WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THAT AREA FOR THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD TO MATCH THE EXISTING PORTION THAT IS YOU KNOW CLOSER TO 95. UM BUT BEYOND THAT UM THE ENTIRE ROADWAY OF MALABAR FROM BASICALLY MINTON TO 95 AND BEYOND THEY'RE THEY'RE WITH THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AS IT IS THERE'S NOT ANY REALLY ANY SIGNIFICANT SPACE AVAILABLE TO DO MORE WIDENING THAN WHAT'S ALREADY THERE YOU KNOW UP AGAINST 95 JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES THANK YOU IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM SEEING OR HEARING NONE I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNSELOR WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE MAKING MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020-87 FINAL READING SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY DISCUSSION YEAH MAYOR IF I MAY ADD YEAH I I APPRECIATE WHAT UH MR BATON WAS SAYING UM I THINK MR SHERMAN FOR EXPLAINING THAT A LITTLE BIT I THINK STAFF DID ADDRESS THAT IN OUR OUR CONVERSATIONS AS WELL THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED THAT WE DO HAVE THAT RIGHT AWAY SET ASIDE AND AND BIGGEST THING IS TO REMEMBER THIS BRINGS IT INTO COMPLIANCE OR CERTAIN STATE COMPLIANCE INTO UM INTO THE SAME SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR OTHER COMMERCIALS ALONG THE SAME CORRIDOR SO IT MAKES IT UNIFORM IS WHAT I SHOULD BE SAYING MY FINAL COMMENT I WANT TO ADD ON IT IS THAT YOU KNOW AS FAR AS WE JUST HAD AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION I THINK LOOKING FOR THESE TYPE OF THINGS AND I'M HOPING THAT NO JOAN AND HER DEPARTMENT ENGAGES MR BATTEN ALLUDED TO THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW WHICH WE ARE DOING A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THAT UH RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS AND YOU KNOW PROBABLY GO THROUGH NEXT YEAR THAT WE LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW MAKE THE CODE WORK FOR BOTH OUR CITIZENS AND OUR BUSINESSES TO MAXIMIZE OUR COMMERCIAL UH INVESTMENT AND ARE ALSO YOU KNOW THE COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT BRINGS YOU KNOW OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR PEOPLE TO SHOP AND AND HAVE ENTERTAINMENT AND OTHER THINGS WITHIN THE CITY INSTEAD OF LEAVING THE CITY AND I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY THAT'S LONG-TERM GOALS TO BE A SELF-SUSTAINING UH CITY AS FAR AS NO WE WE ARE VERY LARGE LANDMASS WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION WE NEED TO BE UH LIVING WORKING YOU KNOW WE SHOULDN'T NEED WE'RE LIVING HERE WE NEED TO BE WORKING PLAYING HERE AS WELL SO THAT'S I'M HOPING THAT NO JOAN AND CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND WELL NO OBVIOUSLY I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR WITH OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND BLOOD BY GROWTH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND WAYS TO MAXIMIZE ITEMS LIKE THIS WHICH ARE NO COST ITEMS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL SEEING NONE I'M CALLING THE ITEM ALL IN PASSES FAVOR MISS SMITH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL IN NATURE PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER FIVE SIX AND SEVEN ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS FIRST THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY OR OTHER PERSON THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION ORDNANCE 2021-01 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM IU INSTITUTIONAL USE DISTRICT TO RS2 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF AND ADJACENT TO ZANZIBAR ROAD IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF WACO BOULEVARD AND EAST OF MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL 42R-1 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEARING PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AT THIS TIME I'M DEFERRING TO MRS SHERMAN[01:00:05]
UH THANK YOU MAYOR I'LL WE'LL DEFER STAFF COMMENTS AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTS THEIR CASE SAY AGAIN MA'AM WE'LL WE'LL DEFER STAFF COMMENTS UNTIL AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTS OUR CASE AT THIS TIME I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING APPLICANT PLEASE STEP FORWARD HELLO COUNCIL MY NAME IS SAM GUINTO MY WIFE MICHELLE WE WE RESIDE AT 1061 ZAMBRANO STREET SOUTHEAST ALSO IN PALM BAY NOT TO NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM WHERE THE PLOT OF LAND THAT'S UNDER DISCUSSION IS BEING ASKED TO BE REZONED WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY SINCE 2017 AND WE'RE CONSIDERED WE'RE MAKING PALM BAY OUR PERMANENT HOME WE ARE IN THE EXCUSE ME WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A NEW HOME AND WE ACQUIRED THIS LAND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DO APPRECIATE THE PLANNING AND ZONING UH SUPPORT IN IN REVIEWING OUR REQUEST AND JUST THE FACT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS ENTERTAINING IT AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE RECOMMENDED THE REZONING OF UH OF THE PARCEL SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THANK YOU DOES STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS UH NO AT THIS TIME WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS UH CASE UH STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD UM APPROVED IT UNANIMOUSLY IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK OR FOR AGAINST THIS THIS ITEM SEEING AND HEARING NONE I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION FROM COUNSEL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE ORDINANCE 2021-02 FOR I'M SORRY I APOLOGIZE 20 21 0-1 FOR FIRST READING SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNSEL SEEING AND HEARING NONE I'M CALLING FOR A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR MISS SMITH ITEM SIX ORDERS 2021-02 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS GARDENS OF WATERSTONE PHASE 1 PUD IN PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO MIRA LOMA BOULEVARD IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF MELBOURNE TILLMAN BORDER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL 38 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE MS SHERMAN AS IN THE PAST HEARING I WILL DEFER STAFF COMMENTS UNTIL AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTS THEIR CASE APPLICANT PLEASE STEP FORWARD HIDING WAY IN THE BACK YEAH THANK YOU UH JAKE Y CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2651 WESTO GALLEY BOULEVARD IN MELBOURNE I'LL GIVE A JUST A REAL BRIEF HISTORY SINCE WE HAVE SOME RELATIVELY NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 2004 WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY IT IS PART OF AN ALREADY APPROVED MASTER PLAN THE PROJECT UH WATERSTONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH CYPRESS BAY WHICH IS UH CYPRESS BAY'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF BABCOCK STREET WATERSTONE IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF BABCOCK STREET AND ALL THIS IS RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE NEW ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND BABCOCK STREET SO WE'RE EXCITED BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ALL GOING ON AT ONCE AND AS THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THESE PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD THE COMMERCIAL IS WILL CLOSELY FALL RIGHT BEHIND AND WE'VE HAD MORE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAN I CAN REMEMBER AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE HAVE BEEN JUST OVER AND OVER AGAIN VERY SUPPORTIVE FOR THE MOST PART HOPING THAT THAT COMMERCIAL WILL BE THERE SOON AND WE DO HAVE SOME VERY POSITIVE MOMENTUM WITH THE COMMERCIAL PART OF THESE PROJECTS AS WELL SO JUST AS A QUICK UM OVERVIEW WATERSTONE ITSELF IS 740 ACRES CYPRESS BAY EAST WE CALL IT ON THE EAST SIDE OF BABCOCK[01:05:04]
AS I MENTIONED IS 280 ACRES WE HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM ABOUT 186 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND WE ARE ALLOWED UP TO ALMOST 2 600 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN WATERSTONE ALONE 395 LOTS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON CYPRESS BAY WE'RE THERE WE'RE JUST DOING THE FINAL CLOSEOUTS ON THAT RIGHT NOW SO WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO SEE THIS UH WHOLE MASTER PLANNED AREA COMING TO FRUITION SO FOR THIS PROJECT WE HAVE 45 ACRES IT'S THE FIRST PHASE OF THE GARDENS WE HAVE TWO MORE PHASES COMING WE HAVE BETWEEN THE PROJECTS AND ALSO THE COURTYARDS WHICH YOU GUYS RECENTLY APPROVED AND IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION A GREAT DIVERSITY OF DIFFERENT LOT SIZES AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMES AVAILABLE SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALL BEING DONE BY DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME IT'S NOT JUST ONE IT'S IT'S A GREAT MIX SO FOR THIS WHOLE REGION IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT WITH THAT BEING SAID THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT HAS ON 45 ACRES 154 UNITS WE'RE LOOKING AT 40 FOOT BY 125 FOOT DEEP LOTS IT HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NEIGHBORHOOD PARK WALKING TRAILS RECREATION OPEN SPACE AREAS WE HAVE MUCH LOWER DENSITY THAN WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED FOR NOT JUST THIS PROJECT ITSELF BUT FOR THE OVERALL BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT ARE PART OF IT WE'RE EXTENDING WATER AND SEWER BOTH CITY FOR THE CITY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A GATED NEIGHBORHOOD THE ROADS WILL ALL BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS BUT THEY'LL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED SO THEY WON'T BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN OR WORRY ABOUT AT ALL WITH THAT BEING SAID BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE UM PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDING UNANIMOUS APPROVAL STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR IT AND IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WE APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THEM MR SHERMAN UH THANK YOU MAYOR I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR LARRY BRADLEY TO COME UP AND JUST READ INTO THE RECORD THE STAFF REQUIREMENTS UH CONDITIONS FOR THIS MOVING FORWARD GOOD EVENING LARRY BRADLEY GROWTH MANAGEMENT SO THIS WAS AS WAS NOTED UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING AND RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY STAFF IN THE STAFF REPORT WE TAKE YOU THROUGH THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE APPLICATION ON THE LAST PAGE WE HAVE THE CONDITIONS THEY MUST COME IN FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL WITH FULL ENGINEER DRAWINGS UH INCLUDING ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS AND DRAWINGS SHOWING THE AMENITIES AND THE WALKING TRAILS AND THEN THERE'S A SECTION OF TECHNICAL COMMENTS GENERATED BY PUBLIC WORKS BREVARD COUNTY AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WHICH WILL ALL BE PART OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW WHICH WILL OCCUR AFTER IT GOES THROUGH COUNCIL ALL RIGHT THANK YOU THANK YOU IF I MAY WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND WE THINK WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THOSE COMMENTS BUT THAT'S PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW WE'LL GO BACK AND FORTH WITH COMMENTS UNTIL WE'VE RESOLVED ALL OF THE STAFF'S CONCERNS AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE SO THEY WILL MAKE SURE WE COMPLY AND THAT IS NOT THIS JUST THIS PROJECT IT'S EVERY PROJECT WE DO WELL THANK YOU MR WISE ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU THANK YOU I'D LIKE TO ASK THE PUBLIC ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM ANY CARDS SEEING AND HEARING NONE I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M ASKING COUNSEL FOR A MOTION MOTION TO IMPROVE ORDINANCE 2021-02 WITH STAFFS RECOMMENDATIONS A THROUGH C UH FIRST READING ANY DISCUSSION COUNSEL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION[01:10:06]
HEARING AND SEEING NONE I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY MISS SMITH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN RESOLUTION 2021-02 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW A RETAIL STORE OCCUPYING MORE THAN 5 000 SQUARE FEET GROSS FLOOR AREA IN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTHWEST OF AND ADJACENT TO THE GROUP ROAD IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF SEXTON ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE AND PROVIDING CONDITIONS HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE MR SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR I'LL HAVE UM AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTS THEIR CASE I'LL HAVE MR BRADLEY COME UP ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE THE APPLICANTS STEP FORWARD PLEASE THANK YOU COUNCIL JACK SPIRA 5205 BABCOCK STREET I JUST WANT TO SAY BEFORE I GO INTO MY PRESENTATION THIS IS SORT OF OLD HOME WEEK FOR ME ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO THERE WAS A GROUP OF UH RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY AND AT FIVE IN THE MORNING WE WOULD GO AND PLAY RACQUETBALL UH IN IN THIS FACILITY UH AND WITH ME AT THAT TIME WAS MILTON BROOME WHO ULTIMATELY BECAME MAYOR ROBIN FISHER WHO ULTIMATELY BECAME A CITY COUNCILMAN HERE AND COUNCILMAN IN TITUSVILLE AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER UH AND SO COMING HERE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MANY MANY YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE AND COINCIDENTALLY THE THE STREET THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ON IS ON THE GROOT ROAD OF COURSE FRANK DEGROOT WAS THE MAYOR OF PALM BEACH SO IT UH IT'S REALLY NOSTALGIC UH TO THAT EXTENT UH CERTAINLY THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE UH ON A SITE ON AN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FROM 5 000 SQUARE FEET TO 10 400 SQUARE FEET THE PROPERTY IS ON A 1.81 ACRE PARCEL AS INDICATED IT'S ON NORTH SIDE OF DEGREE ROAD NEAR SEXTON ROAD SOUTHWEST EXISTING ZONING DOES ALLOW 5 000 SQUARE FEET COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO BE PUT ON HERE AS A PERMITTED USE WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THERE IS A STAFF REPORT THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED I WANT TO CLARIFY THE STAFF REPORT THAT SEEMS TO INDICATE THERE'S OUR TWO SINGLE FAMILY ON ALL SIDES I WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT'S ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IT'S VACANT THAT'S IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL 1.1 ACRES VACANT TO THIS PROPERTY SOUTH OF THIS PARCEL ACROSS FROM THE GROUD IS NC COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL ZONING THAT'S A 2.81 ACRE PARCEL THAT IS AN FPL FACILITY THERE'S APPROXIMATELY AN ACRE OF PAVED AREA THERE THEY HAVE 11 000 SQUARE FEET OF PAVED WALLS AND THEY USE THAT FOR I GUESS TRUCKING OR WHATEVER THEY THEY DO OVER THERE THE WEST OF THIS PARCEL UH THERE'S A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE FPL EASEMENT POWER LINE EASEMENT SO REALLY THE PROXIMITY BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND ANY ADJACENT PROPERTIES IS VERY MINIMAL THE STAFF REPORT STATES THAT ALL ITEMS REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE 185.07 OF THE PALM BAY CODE HAVE BEEN MET REQUESTS THAT THE STAFF REPORT BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS PRESENTATION ALSO THE APPLICANT AGREES TO COMPLY WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN ITS REPORT GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND IN THIS CASE THIS CASE WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND IT WAS DENIED BY 3-2 AND THE WAY THAT THAT DENIAL CAME APART CAME INTO PLAY AFTER THE STAFF REPORT WAS READ THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE THERE WAS ONE RESIDENT VOICE AND OBJECTION AT THAT POINT THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AN ISSUE WAS BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE BOARD AT THAT TIME THE CHAIRMAN ON HIS OWN WITHOUT ANY STATED BASES VOICED HIS OPINION THAT THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AND STATED HE WOULD VOTE TO DENY THE REQUEST THE APPLICANT AT THAT POINT WASN'T ABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY ISSUES DEALING WITH TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE THREAT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING HAD BEEN CLOSED AND THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE THAT ISSUE AND THAT RESULTED IN A THREE TO TWO VOTE FOR DENIAL POINT OUT THAT THE STAFF REPORT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES AS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BE SUBMITTED DURING SITE PLAN REVIEW EVEN THOUGH THE STAFF REPORTS INDICATED BE DONE AT A LATER DATE MY CLIENT HAS HAD A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PREPARED AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY[01:15:05]
ALSO THE CITY CLERK AND COUNCIL HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH A PROJECT REPORT PREPARED BY HOLLY WHITE WHO'S THE PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THE CLIENT I REQUESTED THAT PROJECT REPORT ALSO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION MS WHITE WILL TESTIFY FOLLOWING MY PRESENTATION AS TO MATTERS CONTAINED IN HER REPORT AND THAT TESTIMONY WILL INCLUDE INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THE PROJECT AS WELL AS TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROJECT COMPARED WITH OTHER PERMITTED USES ON THE SITE ALSO WITH ME IS SETH LANE VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR APPLICANT WHO'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT I'D LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE HERE ANY QUESTIONS JUST A QUICK QUESTION THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS WAS THIS UM DONE AFTER THE PNC MEETING OR THAT'S CORRECT THIS IS COMPLETELY OKAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE UH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS YES IT WASN'T EVEN REQUIRED UNTIL SITE PLANNER REVIEW BUT WE FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO BRING IT BASED UPON THE UH THE STATEMENT MADE BY THE CHAIRMAN AT THAT TIME AND AND ALSO UH MISS WHITE WILL ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IN HER REPORT OKAY THAT'S CORRECT BUT NO IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE IT WASN'T REQUIRED AT THAT TIME ALL RIGHT THANK YOU YES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS MS SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR I'D LIKE TO BRING UP LARRY BRADLEY OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR AND ALLOW HIM TO PROVIDE STAFF'S OVERVIEW OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION THANK YOU GOOD EVENING AGAIN LARRY BRADLEY UM SO IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE IS UM SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF AND SOME COMMENTARY UM SO I'LL JUST GONNA GO RIGHT TO THE CONCLUSION STATEMENTS THAT UM THE WARDEN COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT THEY SEEM NECESSARY TO ENSURE SAFETY AND HARMONY WITHIN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS INCLUDE THE NEED FOR A UTILITY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CITY THEY MUST OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED UH PERMITS FROM SAINT JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT MELBOURNE TILLMAN FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION BREVARD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW WHICH WAS MENTIONED BY THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AS PART OF THAT SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS A TREE SURVEY IS ALSO REQUIRED TO DETERMINE THE PRESERVATION OF ANY EXISTING TREES ON SITE AND ALSO AS ALWAYS BUILDING PERMITS AND ENGINEERED SITE PLAN WILL BE REVIEWED PRIOR TO SITE PLAN ISSUANCE AND THEN ULTIMATELY BUILDING PERMIT THANK YOU YOU'RE WELCOME THANK YOU BUT I HAVE A QUICK SORRY HOW'S YOUR QUICK QUESTION FOR MR BRADLEY I'M SORRY UM SO WHAT WOULD BE THE STEPS IF THEY'RE IF YOU DO SEE A CONCERN WHEN UM THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYST IS DONE BY Y'ALL THEY MAY HAVE TO DO MITIGATION MEASURES IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC ISSUE MAYBE A WIDENING MAYBE A TURN LANE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET THESE TRAFFIC REPORTS THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR POTENTIAL MITIGATION OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OKAY AND THEN ONCE THOSE NEEDS ARE ONCE THOSE ARE MET THEN IT MOVES FORWARD CORRECT I MEAN THE CITY ENGINEER WOULD WORK WITH UH WITH US AND THE APPLICANT TO COME UP WITH A MITIGATION STRATEGY FOR SOMETHING LIKE A TRAFFIC IMPACT OKAY BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY MY ONLY CONCERN UM I'VE BEEN TO MCGRIFF'S SKATE PARK MULTIPLE TIMES AND ANYBODY WHO GOES DOWN TO GROOT KNOWS YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE FROM HERE IT SAYS 40 MILES PER HOUR BUT THE PALM APD IN THE BACK CAN ATTEST THAT IT'S PROBABLY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING 40 MILES PER HOUR DOWN THAT ROAD ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT CURVE WHICH IS WHERE THIS PROJECT WHERE THIS PROJECT IS AT SO THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN BUT I APPRECIATE THEM DOING THEIR TRAFFIC AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH SIGHT DISTANCES YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE SIGNAGE TO TELL PEOPLE YOU KNOW THERE'S A HIDDEN CURVE OR HIDDEN DRIVEWAY THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO ALERT THE PUBLIC AS THEY'RE DRIVING THAT UH THERE'S AN UH AN ISSUE THAT MAY COME UP WHEN THEY COME AROUND A CURVE LIKE YEAH AND THEN BECAUSE I'M THINKING YOU KNOW SOMEBODY'S COMING OUT OF THE THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND THEN SOMEBODY'S COME AROUND THAT CURVE SPEEDING WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T SO THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN RIGHT THERE SO I APPRECIATE THAT OKAY THANK YOU FOLLOW UP MR BROWN COUNCILMAN BAILEY I HAD A QUESTION TOO UM NOT SO MUCH WITH THE ON THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THIS BY THE WAY I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT OKAY I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS HANDED TO YOU BUT PRIOR TONIGHT I'M JUST CURIOUS SHOULD THIS HAVE SHOULD THIS INCLUDE SHOULD A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS INCLUDE THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC UM IT DOESN'T ALWAYS I MEAN USUALLY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS[01:20:01]
IS ABOUT VEHICULAR MOVEMENTS I MEAN THERE'S A SAFETY ANALYSIS THAT COULD ALSO BE DONE UM YOU KNOW WE HAVE MR WATANABE HERE YOU COULD ALSO MAYBE COMMENT ON THAT FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE OR A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PERSPECTIVE BUT TYPICALLY THOSE REPORTS ARE FOCUSED ON VEHICLE TRAFFIC OKAY THANK YOU AND I'LL ASK THE SAME QUESTION IF I MAY TO MR UH SPIRE TO THAT HOLD ON ONE SECOND I'M SORRY UM COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN FOSTER FROM OUR STAFF COUNCILMAN FELIX WELL UH NOT NECESSARILY FOR MR BRADLEY I'M SURE THE UH REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE UH MR APPLICANT IS COMING COMING UP TO ADDRESS THAT VERY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS THAT CORRECT OKAY THAT'S FINE HELLO HOLLY WHITE 720 SOUTHWEST 2ND AVENUE GAINESVILLE FLORIDA A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF BEFORE GOING INTO THIS MY LICENSED PROFESSIONAL CIVIL ENGINEER I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IN 2011. I HAVE ABOUT 12 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE PRIMARILY IN LAND DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO A SMALL AMOUNT IN TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING AS WELL I'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE TRAFFIC DATA A LOT OF STUFF I'LL SAY AFTER THAT IS KIND OF FILL IN SOME OF THE GAPS FROM WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS PROVIDED IT IT DOES STATE THAT THERE ARE NO SITE OBSTRUCTIONS BASED ON THE 40 MILE PER HOUR POSTED SPEED LIMIT THIS IS BASED OFF OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY THE TRAFFIC METHODOLOGY PROVIDED SO THAT WILL OF COURSE BE COORDINATED DURING THE SITE PLAN PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEER WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO BE SURE THAT ALL REQUIREMENTS ARE MET AND THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION IS IN THE SAFEST POINT POSSIBLE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT RELATED TO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC I HAVE THIS SOMEWHERE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT WE HAD FOR THIS THE THERE IS NO SIDEWALK ALL ALONG THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE GROOT ROAD BUT THERE IS A SIDEWALK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD UM THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS IN THE IN THE CITY MASTER PLAN FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE ROAD BUT WE THE APPLICANT HAS PASSED PROJECTS PROVIDED A MID-BLOCK CROSSING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD SIDEWALK CONNECTION THEY ARE WILLING TO DO THAT AT THIS SITE IT OF COURSE HAS TO BE APPROVED DEEMED SAFE AND APPROVABLE BY PUBLIC WORKS SO THAT CAN BE THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED DURING SITE PLAN PERMITTING PROCESS BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO PUT IN YOU KNOW A SAFE CONNECTION FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY UM I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT WHILE I'M HERE I DON'T I SEND IN A PRESENTATION NOT SURE IF IT'S THERE BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE SLIGHT PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU UM JUST KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE SITE PARAMETERS REQUIRED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THE SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE WE'RE NOT REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PARCEL WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR A PORTION OF THAT UM WITHIN THIS PORTION WE ARE PROVIDING 25-FOOT BUFFERS ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL LOT LINES THERE IS A SIX-FOOT FENCE ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL LOT LINES AS WELL WE ARE REQUESTING A ONE ONE SINGLE 10 700 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH 54 PARKING SPACES WHICH IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY CODE ONE SINGLE ACCESS IS PROPOSED TO THE ENTIRE PARENT PARCEL OF COURSE THAT FINAL LOCATION OF THAT DRIVEWAY WILL BE DETERMINED DURING SITE PLAN PURSUANT TO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THE CITY ENGINEER THE PROXIMITY TO THE HOMES THE CLOSEST POINT FROM A CORNER OF THE BUILDING TO AN EXISTING HOME IS 150 FEET WITHIN THAT IT RANGES FROM 150 FEET UP TO 310 FEET FOR THE ADJACENT EXISTING HOMES WITHIN THAT CLOSEST DISTANCE OF 150 FEET THE ONLY THING IT PROPOSED IN THAT AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS IS THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY SO BUILDING CORNER STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY BUFFERS AND THEN RESIDENTIAL LOT SPEAKING TO THE SITE PLAN AND THE GENERAL PARAMETERS REQUIRED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THOSE BASIC PARAMETERS THE 25 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL LOT LINES THE SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE OR SIX FOOT FENCE SURROUNDING THE BOUNDARY THE NEXT BASIC PARAMETER REQUIRED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS A 30 PERCENT MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE THIS ONE SINGLE 10 700 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS ONLY 14 BUILDING COVERAGE FOR THE PORTION OF THE SITE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH THE 1.81 ACRE PORTION THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING[01:25:03]
AT MEETING THE 25 FOOT BUFFER SIX FOOT FENCE 30 PERCENT MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE THIS SITE COULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW UP TO 20 000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ALLOWS SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES SOME OF THOSE USES ARE CAPPED AT A SPECIFIC SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 5000 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS THE CASE AT THE RETAIL STORE SOME DO NOT HAVE A CAP SO A SINGLE 20 000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING COULD BE ALLOWED FOR A LAUNDRY SERVICE A LIBRARY VARIOUS USES UM FOUR OR FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT DAYCARE BUILDINGS COULD BE THERE FOUR FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE BUILDINGS COULD BE THERE UH WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR ONE SINGLE 10 700 SQUARE FOOT STORE UM OF COURSE THOSE WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE OTHER CITY SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS JUST AS WE DO AS WE GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PERMITTING PROCESS BUT KIND OF EXPANDING ON THE THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE AND WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AND BACK TO THE TRAFFIC WHICH WAS A BIG ISSUE AT PLANNING AND ZONING UH CREATED A COMPARISON TABLE DID YOU GUYS RECEIVE THE PRESENTATION SENT BY ANY CHANCE OKAY UM SO I HAVE A TRAFFIC GENERATION COMPARISON TABLE IT'S BASED ON ITE CODE WHICH IS INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS WHICH IS NATIONALLY USED FOR TRAFFIC STUDIES THEY ASSIGN A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TRIPS TO SPECIFIC USES SO COMPARING THAT AND I HAVE A FEW USES LISTED HERE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT A 5 000 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENT MARKET COULD BE ALLOWED THIS WOULD GENERATE UP TO 3 800 DAILY TRIPS BASED ON ITE UM 246 PM PEAK TRIPS WHICH IS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 4 PM AND 6 PM A WALK-IN BANK DOES NOT HAVE A SQUARE FOOTAGE CAP IT COULD ALLOW UP TO 10 700 SQUARE FEET JUST AS WE'RE ASKING FOR BY RIGHT ITE DOESN'T HAVE A DAILY TRIPS BUT THAT WOULD GENERATE 130 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS A FAST CASUAL RESTAURANT THINKING SUBWAY CHIPOTLE THAT WOULD BE CAPPED AT 5 000 SQUARE FEET THAT WOULD GENERATE OVER 1500 SQUARE FEET OR 1500 DAILY TRIPS EXCUSE ME UM UP TO 71 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS A LIBRARY NO CAP THERE COULD BE A 10 700 SQUARE FOOT LIBRARY SAME SIZE WE'RE ASKING 771 DAILY TRIPS WE COME IN NEXT A DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE 10 700 SQUARE FOOT OF COURSE WE NEED APPROVAL FOR THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE THIS WOULD GENERATE 679 TRIPS BASED ON THE STANDARD ITE METHOD THE TRAFFIC STUDY PROVIDED DOES INCLUDE A PASS BY REDUCTION THAT IS ALLOWED WHICH INCLUDES A REDUCTION BASED ON CARS THAT WOULD ALREADY BE DRIVING SPECIFICALLY PAST THAT LOCATION THAT REDUCES THE DAILY TRIPS TO 560 AND THE PM PEAK TRIPS TO 61. UM SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS WOULD BE ALLOWED AT A 5 000 SQUARE FEET THE DAILY TRIPS FOR THAT WOULD BE 561 RIGHT IN LINE WITH OUR 560 FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A 10 700 SQUARE FOOT STORE SO YOU CAN SEE WE WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE INCREASE BUT IT THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THIS CONDITIONAL USE IS YOU KNOW LESS THAN AND VERY COMPARABLE TO OTHER USES AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD GO IN THIS LOCATION AND BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT ALL WE THE GUIDELINES UH THE CITY REGULATIONS FOR CONDITIONAL USE THERE'S ITEMS A THROUGH H THAT WE ADDRESS THE STAFF REPORT ADDRESSES ALL OF THOSE THOROUGHLY IF WE HAVEN'T MET IT WITH THE PRELIMINARY INFORMATION WE WILL MEET IT DURING SITE PLAN PERMITTING PROCESS UM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ITEM G IT'S A LITTLE MORE COULD BE A LITTLE MORE SUBJECTIVE IT STATES THAT THE PROJECT WILL NOT CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE OR A HAZARD BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS USING THE FACILITY I HOPE THAT THE COMPARISONS THAT WE'VE MADE FOR 20 000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS THAT COULD BE THERE PURSUANT TO SITE SITE PLAN CODE AND THE ADDITIONAL TRIPS GENERATED BY OTHER PROJECTS THAT COULD BE THERE AS WELL WE HOPE THAT HELPS SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT THAT THIS INCREASE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE IS NOT GOING TO BRING CONSIDERABLY MORE TRAFFIC THAN OTHER USES THAT COULD GO THERE BY RIGHT WE ARE MEETING THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE ELEVATIONS THE FLORIDA VERNACULAR WHICH IS ONE OF THE STYLISTIC OPTIONS OUTLINED IN 185.134 WE DID HOLD THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THERE WERE A FEW CONCERNS TRAFFIC BEING ONE WHICH WE HAVE ADDRESSED HERE TONIGHT LIGHT POLLUTION WAS ONE WHICH PALM BAY HAS VERY STRICT LIGHT POLLUTION REGULATIONS WHICH WILL BE MET DURING THE SITE PLANE PERMITTING PROCESS[01:30:03]
AND THEN THE OF COURSE THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STYLE THE SPECIFIC TENANTS PROPOSED AT THIS LOCATION THE EXPECTED PATRONS OF THIS THE STORE SIZE AND THE GENERAL QUANTITY OF THIS STORE WAS DISCUSSED THIS APPLICATION ADDRESSES STORE SIZE ONLY AND WHETHER THE STORE SIZE MEETS ITEMS A THROUGH H AND FITS WITHIN THE INTENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING PURSUANT TO CODE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THE PURPOSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING IS TO PROVIDE LIMITED COMMERCIAL RETAIL SERVICES TO RESIDENCES IN THE AREA TO REDUCE CONFLICT BETWEEN ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES AND ALSO RELIEVE TRAFFIC FROM MAJOR ADJACENT THOROUGHFARE ROADWAYS WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL WILL MEET THAT INTENT AND WE'LL WE'LL MEET THE INTENT AND REDUCE THAT TRAFFIC TO THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS AS THE INTENT THIS TRACK TO SUMMARIZE WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL IN 1962 WHEN IT WAS PLANTED WITH THE PORT MALABAR PLAT UNIT 32 IT HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE THEN THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED NOW SAID IT'S UH 10 700 SQUARE FEET WE ARE REQUESTING COMING IN AT A 14 MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE WELL BELOW THE 30 MAXIMUM REQUIRED THE SITE PLAN MEETS ALL BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FENCING REQUIREMENTS WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS UH WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PARAMETERS WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR SOME JUDGMENT WHETHER THIS STORE CAN BE IN AT 10 700 SQUARE FEET CONSIDERING THAT OTHER OTHER USES COULD BE PROVIDED HERE AT THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE OR GREATER UM AND GENERATE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE COUNCIL YEAH MA'AM COUNCILMAN BAILEY YEAH REAL QUICK I WANTED TO DO IT WHY SINCE WE I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN NOW BUT THE IN YOUR PRESENTATION THE TRIP GENERATION COMPARISONS YEP YOU HAVE IT HIGHLIGHTED AND NOTED THAT THE PROPOSED NET TRIPS BASED ON PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S THE LOWER NUMBERS IS THAT CORRECT UM YES THE THE ASTERISK NUMBERS ON THE DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE SPECIFICALLY AND SO THIS SO THE HIGHER NUMBERS THE 679 AND THE 73 WOULD BE BASED JUST USING THAT THE ITE CODE YES FOR THAT USE UM I GUESS I GUESS I'M CURIOUS HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE NET FOR THE OTHERS YES SO THIS SPECIFICALLY THE PASS BY REDUCTION IT'S A STANDARD 10 PERCENT REDUCTION I THINK ALLOWED IT APPLIES TO RETAIL STORES SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT MAY APPLY TO THE CONVENIENCE MARKET COULD REDUCE UP TO 10 PERCENT OF THAT WHICH WOULD STILL BE WELL ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE BUT MAY NOT APPLY TO A WALK-IN BANK AND CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THE CONVENIENCE MARKET WHAT DIFFERENTIATES IT FROM A DISCOUNT RETAIL UM CONVENIENCE MARKET WOULD BE THINK A GAS STATION WITHOUT GAS PUMPS OKAY AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION ARE OF THOSE GOING UP IN THESE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOODS I'M SORRY COULD YOU REPEAT THE CONVENIENCE THE CONVENIENCE YEAH OR WOULD THEY WOULD THAT THAT SITE BE YOU KNOW AVAILABLE FOR CONVENIENT MARKET CONVENIENCE MARKET I MEAN PRACTICALITY ADD A A CONVENIENCE MARKET COULD BE DEVELOPED AT THAT SITE AT 5 000 SQUARE FEET AND GO STRAIGHT THROUGH STAFF SITE PLAN AND NEVER COME TO A PLANNING ZONING OR CONDITIONAL USE OR A CITY COUNCIL BOARD FOR APPROVAL YEAH I UNDERSTAND BUT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING YOU'RE YOU'RE GIVING US THE THEORETICAL BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE CODE I DON'T IT DOES IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE EARLIER YOU SAID THAT IT HAD TO MEET OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CODE AS WELL SO I DON'T KNOW THE COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF I KNOW THEORETICALLY BASED ON ONE PART OF THE CODE IT COULD BE THIS MUCH BUT LET'S MAKE IT APPLES TO APPLES AND I'M JUST ASKING YOUR PEN I UNDERSTAND THAT THEORETICALLY THERE COULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE THERE TO WALK THROUGH STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVELY I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S REALLY LEGITIMATE LIKE IN PRACTICALITY THAT WE WOULD PUT A CONVENIENCE STORE ANY THAT YOU OR YOUR CLIENT OR ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BE IN STORE IN THAT LOCATION UNDERSTOOD UM SO WHEN I SAY THE THEORETICAL THIS COULD GO HERE BASED ON OTHER SITE SITE CODE REQUIREMENTS UM THE ONE THING THAT MAJORLY COMES TO MIND IS PARKING REQUIREMENTS UM I BELIEVE A CONVENIENCE MARKET I DON'T HAVE THE CODE IN FRONT OF ME I BELIEVE A CONVENIENCE MARKET WOULD REQUIRE THE UM SAME SQUARE PARKING SPACE PER SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THE RETAIL STORE REQUIRES THAT WE REQUIRE SO THEY COULD GO THERE FIT ON THAT SAME PORTION OF THE SITE AT A VERY MUCH SMALLER BUILDING COVERAGE BUT THEY IN MY OPINION BASED ON WHAT I KNOW THEY COULD GO THERE BY RIGHT OKAY AND I GUESS WHY I'M ADDRESSING FEASIBILITY OF A CONVENIENCE MARKET IN THAT LOCATION[01:35:05]
AS COMPARED TO DISCOUNT RETAIL UM BUT UM MY OTHER QUESTION IS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS OR I DON'T KNOW IF MR SP NOW OF A FEW UM I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT YES OKAY I'M JUST CURIOUS DOES I I KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE JUST RECEIVED THIS AND UM I DID DO A YOU KNOW CURSORY REVIEW WITHOUT KNOW WHILE YOU WERE COMING UP TO UH WHILE WE WERE HAVING NO SPEAKERS COME UP AND FORTH UH TO SEE IF IT ADDRESSES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IN HERE ANYWHERE DOES IT AND CAN YOU POINT ME TO WHERE IF IT DOES I ACTUALLY UM I DON'T KNOW IF IT ADDRESSES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND I I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK I DON'T THINK PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WAS IN THE IN THE METHODOLOGY FOR THIS AREA AND BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON OUR DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT'S THAT WOULDN'T SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS IT SO SAID WE'RE THE APPLICANTS WILLING TO PUT IN A CROSSING TO THE OTHER SIDE THAT'S WHAT'S CALLED A MID-BLOCK CROSSING WHICH IS NOT PREFERABLE TO A LOT OF CITY ENGINEERS SO THAT WOULD BE THAT'S IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR THAT IT'S NOT REQUIRED BUT THROUGH THE PURSUIT OF TRAFFIC STUDY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THE CITY ENGINEER WE WOULD TRY TO COORDINATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC DO THIS ALTERNATIVES THERE OH SORRY DO DO DISCOUNT RETAIL STORES TO TEND TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC UM I MEAN I GUESS I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT BUT UM IF THEY'RE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS I THINK A LOT I I WOULD GUESS YES THEY HAVE SOME I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT'S THE MOST MOST OF IT DO YOU HAVE THAT SURE UM UM GOOD EVENING SETH LANE CONCEPT COMPANIES 241 ATLANTIC BOULEVARD UH NEPTUNE BEACH FLORIDA I CAN ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY THERE IS PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE URBANITY OF THE LOCATION LOCATIONS THAT ARE IN HIGHER MORE DENSELY POPULATED AREAS WILL HAVE A HIGHER PEDESTRIAN CUSTOMER BASE LOCATIONS THAT ARE IN MORE SUBURBAN LOCATIONS WILL HAVE A MUCH LOWER CUSTOMER BASE IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE CUSTOMERS THAT THEY'RE SERVING BUT LIKE HOLLY SAID WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY MEASURES IF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN AND SAFETY IS A CONCERN UM AND JUST A GENERAL QUESTION WHO NO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR APPLICATION THE UH SO WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER IT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE YOU KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ITEM A INCLUDES NOT JUST VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WHICH IS OR SAFETY WHICH IN IN UH MOTIONS WHICH THIS COVERS BUT INCLUDES THE PEDESTRIAN AND I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT ADDRESS SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS TO GET THAT ADDRESSED SURE WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE SAFETY OFFICIALS HERE TO ADDRESS UM PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AS HARLEY MENTIONED IN THE PAST WE HAVE PROVIDED THOSE CROSSWALKS ACROSS THE STREET MID-BLOCK CROSSING IS NOT A DEAL IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATE MITIGATION STRATEGY WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONSIDER THAT AND MAKE THAT A CONDITION TO THE APPROVAL AND AND TO EXPAND ON THAT ITEM A IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR PLAN OR APPLICATION IS LACKING BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE IT IT'S NOT UM YEAH THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS THERE THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY MASTER PLAN NOTHING HAS BEEN REQUIRED THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVEN'T HAPPENED UM IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO IT BUT THE THE CITY MASTER PLAN IS NOT DOESN'T INCLUDE SIDEWALKS THERE SO THOSE I SAID THOSE CONVERSATIONS JUST HAVEN'T HAPPENED BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER ALTERNATIVE TO PROVIDE THAT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC SAFETY THAT WE CAN WORK OUT WITH THE CITY ENGINEER SAFELY SO YOU WOULD INSTALL UM I MEAN STILL SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO CROSS SOMEWHERE MID BLOCK THE BOTTOM LINE IS PEOPLE ARE GONNA CROSS MID BLOCK I MEAN WE AGREE ON THAT I THINK UM UNFORTUNATELY AND BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE OPEN TO WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT TODAY BECAUSE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO I HAVE TO CONSIDER YOU KNOW US INDIVIDUALLY HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT'S IN THEIR CODE THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO SEE THAT IT'S ADDRESSED IS PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ARE YOU GUYS SAYING YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF YOUR UM YOUR LOCATION YES YES AND AND YOU KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE AS A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE BUT YEAH I UNDERSTAND BUT YES OKAY AND THEN THE REAL QUICK QUESTION JUST BE MY FINAL ONE MAY I APOLOGIZE IS TRYING TO GET THINGS ON THE RECORD UM THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS FOR THE BUFFER I UNDERSTAND THAT PORTIONS OF THE PARENT PROPERTY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION UM THE ON THE WEST IS KIND OF LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NORTHWEST TO ME UM SECTION THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY ESSENTIALLY UH WITH THAT BUFFERING IS THE INTENT OF THAT BUFFERING TO EXTEND ONLY TO WHERE THIS CONDITIONAL USE IS GOING OR IS IT GOING TO GO TO THE END OF[01:40:03]
THE PARENT PROPERTY THE BUFFER INHERENTLY APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PARENT PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED WITHIN THAT ZONING ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL LOT LINES SO WE WE DON'T SHOW THAT OR EXTEND THAT BUT AT THE TIME WHERE THAT REMAINING PARCEL IF IT'S DEVELOPED IT WOULD HAVE TO UM ILLUSTRATE AND MAINTAIN THAT BUFFER SO THE SO THE FENCE BUFFERING WOULD GO TO THE TREE LINE WHERE THE PARENT PROPERTY OR THAT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO IT ESSENTIALLY YEAH AND THEN THERE WOULD BE TREATY NO THE REST WOULD REMAIN UNDEVELOPED AS IS ALL RIGHT THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON LET'S ALL COME COUNCILMAN FOSTER THANK YOU MAYOR UM UNDER THE CODE REQUIREMENTS WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN IS UM ITEM E THE LIGHTING WHAT THAT THAT ROAD I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT IT'S VERY DARK IT'S NO LIGHTING ON THAT ROAD AM I CORRECT DID Y'ALL LOOK AT A LIGHTING STUDY OF AROUND THAT UM PARTICULAR PROPERTY I UNFORTUNATELY HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE THE LIGHTING OF THAT PARTICULAR OKAY OKAY BUT SO WHAT TYPE OF LIGHTING WOULD BE ON THAT PROPERTY WOULD IT BE BRIGHT ENOUGH FOR CARS TO NOTICE THAT THEY'RE ABOUT TO APPROACH THAT BUSINESS OR PEOPLE WALKING WON'T BE WALKING IN THE DARK WHAT TYPE OF LIGHTING AND HOW BRIGHT THE LIGHTING WOULD BE YES SIR THE THERE WILL BE LIGHTED SIGNAGE THE PARKING LOT WILL BE WILL PROVIDE POLE LIGHTING FOR LIGHTING THERE THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS SPECIFIC LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE DEEMED SAFELY FOR PARKING LOTS A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF LIGHTING AS WELL AS MANDATING MINIMUM TRESPASS LIGHTING USUALLY IT'S A IT'S A FOOT CANDLE ZERO FOOT CANDLES AT A RESIDENTIAL LOT LINE SO THE CODE THE CODE IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY TO PROVIDE AS MUCH SAFETY AND LIGHTING FOR THE FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF FOR THE ACTUAL PARKING AND THE PEDESTRIAN AREAS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE IN BUT ALSO UM YOU KNOW NOT NOT SPILL OVER ONTO UH RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL OKAY SO THAT THAT IS ALL REVIEWED DURING THE SITE PLAN PERMITTING PROCESS AND IT IS TAKEN CARE OF DURING CODE BASED ON THE CODE REQUIREMENTS BUT THE AS PREVIOUS ENGINEER MENTIONED YOU KNOW CITY STAFF DOES PAY ATTENTION TO THAT STUFF AND THEY'RE THEY'RE DILIGENT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT CODE REQUIREMENT IS MET OKAY THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX IT'S UH I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A QUESTION BUT IT'S MORE OF A SERIES OF COMMENTS UM WELL FIRST OF ALL I WISH THAT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS READY OR HANDED TO STAFF PRIOR TO A FEW MINUTES AGO IT WOULD BE GREAT IN THE FUTURE THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER I'M VERY FAMILIAR TO THE AREA THE THE THE GROOVE THAT THAT VERY SECTION A FAMILY MEMBER THAT ACTUALLY RESIDE RIGHT OFF SEXTON TOWARDS THE BACK UM AGAIN TRAFFIC SEEMS TO BE THE CENTER OF OUR CONVERSATION RIGHT UM SO OBVIOUSLY WHAT YOU GUYS ASKING UM YOU COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT A STORE THERE UM WITHIN MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE 5000 OR LESS I'M STILL NOT CONVINCED IN TERMS OF THE JUST UH LOOKING AT THE CURVE JUST THE WAY THE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF UM MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF YOU'RE TRAVELING SOUTH ON THE GROOVE I MEAN IT COULD BE IT COULD BE AND THEN OBVIOUSLY 40 40 MILES AN HOUR NO ONE REALLY DOES IT UH MAYBE YOU KNOW A TIME CHIEF'S NOT HERE AT TIME I MAY VIOLATE IT MYSELF SO UM I'M STILL NOT QUITE CONVINCED THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ISSUE UM I JUST WANT TO BASE ON FOR INSTANCE I'M JUST IMAGINE 18 WHEELER TRYING TO DELIVER ON MERCHANDISE IS THERE A PARTICULAR POINT OF TIME DURING THE DAY BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY UM IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW IS THERE SPECIFIC TIME BECAUSE IF 18 ROLLER TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT OR RIGHT INTO THE PROPERTY THAT THAT COULD BE VERY AND I GOT TWO TEENAGE KIDS AND I GUARANTEE YOU I MEAN THEY NOT I'M JUST THINKING AHEAD AND AND THE TRAFFIC DENSITY MAY BE YOU KNOW KIND OF LOW NOW WE ARE GROWING CITY WE'RE GROWING AT YOU KNOW LIKE CRAZY I MEAN SO IT'S NOT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE SO BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY TODAY NOT[01:45:03]
GONNA IT'LL BE USELESS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AS THE RATE WE THE CITY IS GROWING SO I'M THINKING AHEAD UM I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH WITH WITH THIS AND THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN I HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERN AND UM THAT QUESTION M YOU KNOW MAYBE FOR STAFF UM SO SHOULD WE APPROVE THIS AND AS WE DISCOVER WE UNCOVER ISSUES TRAFFIC ISSUES DO WE I MEAN I THINK YOU ADDRESS IT BUT DO WE ACTUALLY CAN WE HOLD THE DEVELOPER OR THE BUILDER UM CAN WE HOLD THEM TO WHERE THEY HAVE WE HAVE TO FIX IT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE WHATEVER NECESSARY RATHER IT'S AN ADDITIONAL TURNING LANE OR WHAT HAVE YOU UM THOUGH THESE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES I HAVE SO UM YEAH I'LL SPEAK TO SOME OF SOME OF THE TRAFFIC RELATED INFORMATION FIRST UM AS FAR AS THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING THAT ISN'T SAFE WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PERMITTING PROCESS WHICH IS VERY DILIGENT WHICH STAFF WILL REVIEW EVERYTHING VERY THOROUGHLY THE AS FAR AS THE CURVATURE OF THE ROADWAY THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN EVALUATING THE THE SITE PARAMETERS WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND OF COURSE THAT IS ALSO BASED ON THE SPEED LIMIT BUT THIS PARCEL AND THIS PARCEL IS ZONED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND THINGS THAT COULD GO IN THERE ALLOWED BY RIGHT WOULD ALSO NEED A DRIVEWAY AT THIS LOCATION SO THIS THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM TAKE AWAY FROM A DRIVEWAY BEING THERE BUT WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THE STOPS AHEAD OF TIME TO TO TRY TO MAKE THIS AS SAFE AND SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT THAT THAT PERMITTING PROCESS AGAIN THE THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ALSO STATES THAT THE THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FOR THE PM PEAK HOUR WHICH IS BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX IT WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF 23 VEHICLES PER DIRECTION UM SO THAT'S BASED ON FIELD STUDIES DATA UM AT SPECIFICALLY AT THAT LOCATION SO 23 ADDITIONAL MAXIMUM VEHICLES PER DAY PER DIRECTION AND THAT STILL MAINTAINS THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THE ROADWAY HAS RIGHT NOW AND THE CAPACITY THAT THE ROADWAY WAS DESIGNED FOR SETH LANE HAS MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE TRUCK TRAFFIC FOR THE FOR THE BUSINESS MODEL THOUGH BECAUSE AS FAR AS DELIVERY UM IS THERE WOULD THE BUSINESS MODEL WOULD CONSIDER WHEN DO WE YOU KNOW 18 WHEELER WOULD BE GOING IN AND OUT OF THE OF THE PROPERTY SURE THANK YOU UM IF I MAY JUST ADDRESS ONE COMMENT YOU MADE THE TRAFFIC STUDY UH IS TYPICALLY A PART OF OUR SITE PLAN APPLICATION AFTER WE WOULD GO TO THIS HEARING WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND IT WOULD BE PART OF OUR OUR FULL PACKAGE THAT WE SUBMIT FOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING CHAIRMAN'S OBJECTION AND QUESTION ABOUT TRAFFIC WE WENT AHEAD AND INITIATED THE TRAFFIC STUDY NOW IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING UNFORTUNATELY UH THE RULES OF THOSE THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT WITH TRAFFIC STUDIES IS YOU CAN'T TAKE DATA DURING KIND OF NON-NORMAL TIMES AND SO PLANNING AND ZONING WAS IN NOVEMBER WE IMMEDIATELY ENGAGED OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO DO THE STUDY HE HAD TO HE WAS VERY LIMITED ON THE DAYS THAT HE WAS ALLOWED TO COLLECT DATA BECAUSE OF SCHOOL BEING OUT THE HOLIDAYS AND SO UM UNFORTUNATELY WE DID NOT HAVE AN ADVANCED COPY TO PROVIDE TO STAFF BUT WE DID ENGAGE HIM IMMEDIATELY AND DUE TO SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THE HOLIDAYS THE THE TURNAROUND TIME ON THE STUDY WAS DELAYED BECAUSE OF THAT DATA COLLECTION RESTRICTION SO AS FAR AS TRUCK TRAFFIC GOES THEY DO TAKE DELIVERIES TYPICALLY ONCE PER WEEK WITH A SEMI TRUCK AND THEY TYPICALLY DO IT BEFORE BUSINESS HOURS AND BUSINESS HOURS DO VARY BY LOCATION BUT ARE TYPICALLY YOU KNOW IN THE 8 O'CLOCK TO 10 O'CLOCK RANGE 8 A.M TO 10 P.M SO TYPICALLY THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS ONCE PER WEEK THEY COME AND DELIVER BEFORE THE STORE OPENS AND THEY ARE GONE BEFORE THE STORE OPENS THEY DELIVER THE NEW MATERIAL THEY TAKE THE RECYCLABLES UH AWAY AND THEY'RE GONE SO VERY RARELY IS THERE A SEMI-TRAILER THAT WOULD BE SERVICING THE STORE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS UM OCCASIONALLY YOU WILL GET A BOX TRUCK A BREAD TRUCK A COCA-COLA TRUCK THAT WOULD COME DURING OTHER TIMES BUT THE MAIN KIND OF BIG SEMI-TRUCK DELIVERY IS NOT DURING STORE HOURS IN THE MORNINGS AND TYPICALLY ONCE PER WEEK SO MY COMMENTS FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON FOR BRINGING UP MCGRIFF SKATE PARK THAT WAS DONE AS A MEMORIAL TO AN OUTSTANDING FOOTBALL PLAYER FROM PALM BEACH HIGH SCHOOL THAT LEFT OUR COMMUNITY MUCH TOO SOON WE WE KNEW HE WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING NFL PLAYER PROBABLY LEADING A TEAM TO THE SUPER BOWL SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARK AS WELL AND THE DEDICATION SO I WANTED TO MENTION HIS NAME UH IN THAT REGARD I ECHO[01:50:08]
THE COUNCIL SENTIMENTS UH REGARDING THAT THAT CURVATURE THAT THAT TURNING LANE UH AND AND THE SAFETY OF IT UH SO MY MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT CAN WE ADDRESS AND I I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE STUDY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REQUIRED BUT BECAUSE YOU ADJUSTED YOU IMPROVISED YOU ADAPTED YOU PROVIDED IT TODAY ALTHOUGH I'M SURE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE PREFERRED AND STAFF PREFERRED IT SOONER BUT THANK YOU YOU TOOK THAT INITIATIVE SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT UH MY MY CONCERNS ARE AGAIN THAT THAT THAT TURN LANE AND WHETHER YOU'RE COMING FROM THE THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH UH TO MAKE A LEFT TURN AT THAT INTERSECTION WHEN THERE'S THERE THERE'S A POTENTIAL BLIND SPOT THERE UM THAT THAT IS THE AREA OF OUR CONCERN AND I THINK I'VE HEARD THAT FROM FROM OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS UM WHAT AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THIS STUDY SIR SO MY QUESTION MAY BE AT A DISADVANTAGE AT THIS POINT UH BUT WHAT SINCE THAT IS AN ISSUE FOR US AND COUNCILMAN FELIX HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE I'M TALKING ABOUT EVEN RIGHT NOW WHAT CAN IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT THAT UM HOWEVER YOU CAN'T JUDGE IT BY WHATEVER TRAFFIC STUDIES YOU COULD HAVE DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT SCHOOL HAS NOT BEEN IN IN IN EFFECT IN 2020 TRAFFIC HAS BEEN AT A REDUCTION TYPICALLY SO WHAT IS THERE DO YOU THINK THAT COULD BE DONE TO ADDRESS IT IS IT A LARGER UH ON-RAMP UH LANE UH SOMETHING UH A TURNING LANE OR WHAT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU SEE THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED SO I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER OR A CIVIL ENGINEER SO I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE SAFETY PROFESSIONALS OF YOUR COMMUNITY TO TO MAKE THAT DECISION IN THE PAST WE HAVE DONE ACCELERATION AND DECELERATION LANES LEFT LEFT-HAND TURN LANES RIGHT-HAND TURN LANES THE PURPOSE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS SORT OF TO ILLUSTRATE THAT IT'S NOT THE BOOGEYMAN THAT I THINK THE PLANNING AND ZONING CHAIRMAN MAY HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS BUT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY WE WANT TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS WE WANT TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND SO WE ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO MAKE IT MAKE IT SAFE BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT DIRECTION FROM YOUR ENGINEERING STAFF AND YOU KNOW PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERS SO YES WE ARE OPEN TO CONDITIONS THAT WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THOSE BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE COOPERATION ONCE WE GET TO THAT SITE PLANNING STAGE WE HAVE MORE TECHNICAL DATA IN THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT DOES CREATE THE SAFEST CONDITION BUT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY ON THE SAME PAGE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT AS WELL YOUR COMMENTS ARE DULY NOTED I BELIEVE MR SPIRO MENTIONED SOMETHING OR WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS POINT REGARDING THAT AS YOU ARE AS YOU ARE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS COUNSEL MAYOR MAY I ASK UM MRS SHERMAN UM JUST QUICKLY I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMPETENT EVIDENCE I KNOW OUR STAFF IS AVAILABLE AND HAVE REVIEWED IT UH I KNOW WE HAVE YOU KNOW WE HAVE FIRE POLICE NO GROWTH PUBLIC WORKS UM AND OTHERS HAVE THEY CONSIDERED THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IN THAT AREA UM I'LL BRING UP STAFF TO TALK THROUGH THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO'S YEAH EITHER LARRY OR FRANK WHOEVER FEELS MOST READY TO TALK ABOUT THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR FOR ME AND WHILE FRANK COMES UP YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE EGRESS DIGRESS LANE IS DULY NOTED I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS SIR AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS THANK YOU GOOD EVENING UH FRANK WATANABE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND YOUR CITY ENGINEER UH JUST TO PUT PUT A NOTE I AM A LICENSED TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR 30 YEARS I CAME FROM CALIFORNIA YOU REQUIRED TO BE A LICENSED TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO DO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND I'M A LICENSED TRAFFIC ENGINEER I HAVEN'T SEEN THE STUDY SO I APOLOGIZE JUST SAW IT RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WE HAD CONCERNS EARLY ON WHEN IT WAS A SMALLER UNIT THE 5 000 SQUARE FOOT THE ISSUE OF THE REVERSE CURVE WE ALL KNOW IT'S NOT A GOOD LOCATION IT'S ON THE REVERSE SIDE OF THE OF THE CURVE WHERE THE ACTUALLY THE FPNL STATION IS ON THE BETTER SIDE FOR AXIS BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS CURVE THAT BEING SAID YOU CAN'T STOP THE DEVELOPMENT FROM DEVELOPING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THE QUESTION YOU GUYS HAD REGARDING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS AN ISSUE TOO THE SIDEWALK IS ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE NOW ON THE WEST SIDE MORE LIKELY IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY THIS PROJECT SHOULD PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY ALONG THE WEST SIDE TO THE NEAREST INTERSECTION SO THEY WON'T HAVE MID BLOCK CROSSINGS SO YOU'LL PROVIDE CROSSINGS AWAY FROM THAT CURVE MAKE THEM CROSS THE NEAREST STREETS THAT WOULD BE A LOT SAFER THE ISSUE REGARDING TURN LANES YOU KNOW I JUST[01:55:04]
CHECKED RIGHT NOW DEGROOT HAS ABOUT 9 200 CARS THAT AREA IS GOING TO KEEP GROWING AS YOU KNOW 3132 IS GROWING THAT AREA HAS A HIGH SCHOOL DOWN THERE IT HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT A LOT OF THESE STUDIES DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BASED ON ALL THOSE POTENTIAL INCREASES IN TRAFFIC THE SUGGESTION OF HAVING SOME SECURITIES SUCH AS A LEFT TURN LANE WOULD BE MY HIGHEST REVIEW WHEN LOOKING AT THE STUDY BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T THEY DON'T CONSIDER THOSE FACTORS THE TRIP GENERATION RATE THAT HE SHE SHOWED THEIR TRIP GENERATION RATES I JUST PULLED IT UP MYSELF AND THEY USED 814 I WOULD HAVE USED 815 WHICH IS A STANDALONE DISCOUNT STORE THE VOLUMES ARE STILL GOING TO BE LOW BUT THEY'RE JUST TRIP GENERATION RATES UH IT'S A IT'S AN AVERAGING CURVE SO IT CHANGES DRAMATICALLY SOMETIMES POINTS ON A DOT SO BASED ON THOSE INFORMATION JUST GIVE ME SOME FACTS ON WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE AREA UH IT IS A HIGH SPEED AREA WE DON'T KNOW WE ALL KNOW THAT UH THE ISSUE OF PROTECTION FOR THE PEDESTRIAN WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE FOR CONNECTIVITY AT LEAST UP TO THE PARK UH AND THEN A LEFT TURN LANE MORE LIKELY TO PROVIDE FOR THE SECURITY WHEN THE CAR IS MAKING LEFT THE RIGHT I HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT IS WHEN THAT LEFT TURN ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LARGER TRUCK ESPECIALLY IF THAT TRUCK HAS DIFFICULTY BECAUSE IT CAN'T SEE BEYOND A CERTAIN POINT SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CENTS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE STUDY FOLLOW-UP ABSOLUTELY COUNCILMAN SO THE SO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR THAT YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE UP TO THE FRED MCGRIFF PART CORRECT FOR CONNECTIVITY FOR WALKABILITY DEFINITELY AND GET THE SIDEWALKS ON THE REVERSE SIDE YEAH AND WHAT ABOUT TO THE SOUTH UH THERE'S AN INTERSECTION AT SAXON SAXON WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE SORRY SO BECAUSE THAT'S A FOUR WAY OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU AND THE TURNING LANE ALL RIGHT YES THANK YOU COUNCIL UM I I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO RESPOND BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO ASK THEM A QUESTION IF THEY DON'T UM JUST A QUICK NOTE ON SIDEWALK LIMITS WE ARE WILLING TO PUT IN THE SIDEWALK AS SETHLANE MENTIONED JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND ALL OF SITE PARAMETERS RESTRICTIONS OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY THAT KIND OF STUFF BUT BEFORE WE PROMISE TO PUT SIDEWALK IN EVERYWHERE THERE IS A LOT TO WORK OUT DURING THE CYPLANE PERMITTING PROCESS AS WELL AS THE THE LEFT TURN LANE THAT MR WATENBEE MENTIONED WE HESITATE TO SAY YES WE'LL PUT IN A LEFT TURN LANE AND THEN DURING THE SITE PLANE PERMITTING PROCESS IT'S DETERMINED THAT'S NOT NEEDED AND THAT BE ON THE RESTRICTIONS SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE TO YEAH COORDINATION WITH SITE PLAN PERMITTING AND MR WATANABE DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS ONCE HE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE UH TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SO MY QUESTION IS NO AND YOU CAN SOMEWHAT AGGRES ADDRESSED IT BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW WE JUST HEARD FROM AT LEAST FROM OUR YOU KNOW THE WHAT I HAVE FOR STAFF RIGHT NOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF CONNECTIVITY WHICH YOU KNOW AS A LAY PERSON MAKES SENSE TO ME AS YOU MENTIONED YOURSELF EARLIER YOU KNOW HAVING A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE IT'S NOT THAT USEFUL UH BUT EXTENDING OUT TO POINTS WHERE CROSSINGS CAN BE HAD THEY'RE NOT MID BLOCK MIGHT BE SAFER IS WHAT I HEARD AND WHEN I WHEN I WHEN I THINK IT'S A LAY PERSON TOO SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IF IT'S FEASIBLE IF YOU CAN GET THE ACCESS WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO FROM SAXON TO THE PARK AS JUST RECOMMENDED WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE WILLING TO DO THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE THERE FOR US TO DO THAT UM I CAN'T PROMISE YOU THAT I'M GONNA GO BE ABLE TO GET AN EASEMENT FROM A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER TO BUILD A SIDEWALK ON THEIR PROPERTY BUT TO THE EXTENT THE CITY CONTROLS RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE WE COULD PUT THAT IN A SAFE LOCATION YES OKAY THAT MEANS THAT THAT'S THAT'S IS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATION ON THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY OR STAFF THAT'S HOW WE COULD WORK THAT UM TO MAKE SURE WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT AND SEE IF WE THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE AND TO INCLUDE THE LANES AS FAR AS SIDEWALKS INCORPORATE I GUESS WE WOULD USE THE UH TERM THAT MR WADANABE WAS THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE EXTENT PRACTICAL AND RECOMMENDED DURING THE SITE PLAN UM REVIEW SO WE PUT IT OUT THERE AND WE AS THEY HAVE STATED WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS RECOMMENDED AND IS APPROPRIATE AND THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED UPON SITE PLAN REVIEW CERTAINLY IF MR WAT TANABE REVIEWED IT AT THAT TIME AND THOUGHT THAT IT WAS APPLICABLE AND APPROPRIATE THAT WOULD THEN CERTAINLY BE A CONDITION THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED UPON OKAY ALL RIGHT WELL I JUST WANTED TO THINK SOMETIMES MAYOR YOU KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY YES NOW WELL WELL I DON'T WANT WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO SAY YES WITHOUT YOU SAYING YES EITHER SO IT'S IT'S A UH YOU KNOW JUST WE'RE DANCING WE CAN AGREE TO THAT AS A CONDITION SO LONG AS WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GET RIGHT AWAY OR AN EASEMENT FROM AN UNRELATED PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S FAIR[02:00:07]
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE LANE OPPORTUNITY WE REALLY FEEL THAT AND AND UH MR WANT NABI MENTIONED IT JUST BY BRIEFLY LOOKING HE UNDERSTANDS THE AREA HE'S TRAVELED THE AREA UM SO I'M I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO OCCUR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM MR BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST MOST OF THE ITEMS I WAS GOING TO BRING UP WERE ALREADY DISCUSSED IN THIS AND SO THIS WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION BY MY STANDARDS ALSO I KIND OF AGREE THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE YOU KNOW I DO GO THROUGH THIS AGENDA PACKET IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO REVIEW IT IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE BUT IT WASN'T THERE SO BE THAT RIGHT AND SO MY QUESTION WAS HAD THE CITY COUNCIL BEEN ABLE TO SEE IT AT ALL TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT RIGHT HOPEFULLY THE COMP PLAN WILL BE ABLE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN IN THAT S TURN THE COMP PLAN PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SOLVED THIS THE PROBLEM SAID WELL YOUR COMP PLAN SAYS YOU CAN DO THIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S THERE HOPEFULLY THE COMP PLAN I'M GOING TO KEEP PUSHING THAT BUTTON FROM NOW ON THAT COMP PLAN WOULD HAVE SAW THAT THIS WAS A BAD LOCATION TO BE PUTTING SOMETHING RIGHT IN THAT BLIND S CURVE ONE THING THAT DIDN'T COME OUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE S CURVE THE BLIND CURVE WAS THE FACT THAT IT'S A NO PASSING ZONE SO EVEN IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM COMING OUT THAT YOU COULD NOT GO TO THE OTHER LANE TO GET AWAY FROM IT AND NOW IF YOU TAKE THAT NO PASSING ZONE AND YOU PUT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT YOU'RE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT I'VE WATCHED THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS ON THAT ROAD RIGHT THERE ALREADY I'M GOING ON 33 YEARS HERE ON THE SAME STREET SAME LOCATION SO I DEFINITELY KNOW IT AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING WHAT I SEE IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO HAPPEN PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK IN A BLIND CURVE COMING OUT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE OR WHATEVER'S GOING TO BE THERE RIGHT SO I'M GOING TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT P AND Z PLANNING AND ZONING DID KIND OF RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF IT AND JUDGING BY WHAT'S BEING SAID HERE TONIGHT I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR DILEMMA BUT THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SITTING THERE AND I'M UP HERE TALKING ABOUT IT OKAY GOOD LUCK YOU GUYS BUT IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS LOCATION ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO THE OTHER WAY EVEN IF YOU HAVE A TURN LANE AND ONE ONE SIDE TO A TURN LANE COMING INTO THE STORE THAT'S GREAT BUT COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION IN A NO-PASS ZONE YOU'RE STILL LOCKED UP AND YOU'RE RIGHT THEY DO SPEED DOWN THAT ROAD THANK YOU MR DAVID MOELLER GOOD EVENING MAYOR MEMBER OF COUNCILS I'M DAVID MALDEN 1663 GEORGIA STREET PALM BAY I AM THE OWNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND FUNNY THING ABOUT IT IS I PURCHASED THIS SITE FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY WITH UNDERSTANDING THE DISOWNED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND IT HAS BEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SINCE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT LAY PLOT TO THE CITY NOW I'M SITTING OVER HERE YOU KNOW I SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION WITH A 10 EMPLOYEE AND NOW YOU WANT TO ADD SOME MORE AND YOU LIKE TO SEE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR BREAD AND BUTTER IS AND THEN YOU COME AND GRILL THIS PROJECT TO SUCH EXTENT YOU KNOW WHICH I UNDERSTAND BUT SOME OF IT I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW PEOPLE YOU HAVE A 40 MILE PER HOUR ZONE THAT THE PEOPLE GO ON IT WHATEVER THEY WANT YOU KNOW YOU THAT'S THAT'S THE FUNCTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I SUGGEST WITH AS MUCH DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE PALM BAY PERHAPS THAT NEED TO BE ENFORCED AND AROUND THE CURVE AREA PERHAPS SHOULD BE LOWERED SO THE RESIDENTS I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW YOU YOU JUST THIS IS NOT A RACE TRACK THERE ARE VARIABLE SPEEDS SOME PORTIONS OF IT GO A LITTLE BIT FASTER BUT POLICE NEED TO ENFORCE IT AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL THE OTHER MATTER IS THAT ON THE POSITIVE SIDE[02:05:14]
THIS STORE IS GOING TO ELIMINATE SO MUCH TRAFFIC IN THE CITY THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING TO GO TO MALABAR ROAD PALM BAY ROAD BAYSIDE ETC TO DO A BUNCH OF PURCHASES THIS STORE IS GOING TO IS A GENERAL STORY AND IT HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IT ELIMINATES A LOT OF TRAFFIC FROM THE CITY SO IT'S BADLY NEEDED AND IT WILL ALSO GENERATE THE DOLLARS THAT WE BADLY NEED AND ALL OF YOU PROMISE TO BRING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BUT THEN YOU COME OVER HERE AND YOU KNOW WE GRILL THESE THINGS TO THE POINT THAT WE WANT TO KILL IT AND YOU KNOW I'VE HAD THIS LAND FOR TWO DECADES I'VE BEEN PAYING HIGH TAXES ON IT I LIKE TO PUT IT ON TO USE IT CAN BE A CONVENIENCE STORE YOU CANNOT STOP IT IT CAN BE SOMETHING ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE SO YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC WE NEED TO ANSWER IT WE NEED TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT POLICE IT GIVE SOME TICKETS AND MAKE THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS IS ANOTHER RACETRACK I ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS ITEM YOU DON'T NEED TO CONCERN SO MUCH YOURSELF WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THIS AND THAT AND I APPRECIATE IT BUT THAT'S THE PROFESSIONALS LET THEM DO IT THE ENGINEERS YOU HAVE PROFESSIONALS IN THE CITY THAT ARE GOING TO PERMIT THIS I UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS AND I'M GLAD THAT I I HEAR IT OVER HERE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE SPEED OVER THERE LET'S POLICE IT LET'S LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT THE BUILDING A LOT OF HOUSES WE CANNOT GO WITH THESE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN ON THAT ROAD THAT YOU KNOW I MEAN YOU YOU HAVE SOME SOME PORTIONS OF IT THERE'S NO NO SPEED BUT THEY COME OVER THERE AND PASS YOU WITH SUCH A SPEED WE NEED TO POLICE THAT CANNOT JUST SAY OH LET'S KILL THIS PROJECT BECAUSE PEOPLE THE SPEED OVER THERE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A 40 MILES PER HOUR LET'S BE A FOR 40 YARDS YOU KNOW IF IT'S TOO MUCH LET'S LOWER IT I HAVE THIS ZONING AND I HAVE THE LAND AND FOR EVERY ACRE I'M ENTITLED TO TEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET THEY'RE USING TWO ACRES FOR TEN THOUSAND A SQUARE FEET I'M ALSO ENTITLED TO BE ABLE TO USE MY PROPERTY I'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES FOR 20 YEARS ON THESE THINGS SINCE I PURCHASED IT FROM THE CITY LET THE PROFESSIONALS DO THEIR JOB AND LET'S BRING SOME DOLLARS TO THIS CITY COFFERS TOO YOU KNOW WE JUST CANNOT KEEP ON BUILDING HOUSES AND CATER TO THEM TO SPEED IF THEY WANT TO WHATEVER SPEED THEY WANT I HAVEN'T SEEN A POLICE OVER THERE WHENEVER I TRAVEL OVER THERE AND IT'S NOT REALLY A ROAD THAT YOU YOU GO REALLY FAST IT'S ONLY A TWO-LANE ROAD I APPRECIATE I ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM SORRY IF YOU HAVE SPOKEN DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING PLEASE FILL OUT A BLUE CARD AND TURN IT IN TO MRS TERRY RIGHT HERE WHEN YOU GET THE CHANCE YOU CAN STILL APPROACH BUT WHEN YOU GET THE CHANCE PLEASE FILL OUT A BLUE CARD THANK YOU GOOD EVENING UM EDDIE AND MARGARET HARDISON 1230 SEXTON ROAD SOUTHWEST PALM BAY UM WE WILL BE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS APPROVAL IT'S RIGHT AT OUR BACK DOOR UM WE SEE THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH HERE MY ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS NOW UM AFTER STATING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BEFORE IS THE FOOT TRAFFIC AFTER I REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE PARK BEING RIGHT ADJACENT TO WELL NOT TOO FAR FROM THAT THE CHILDREN WILL WALK THE SIDEWALK AND THEN TRY TO CROSS THE STREET TO GO TO THE STORE UM I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BIG NECESSITY FOR THIS STORE GOING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IS A DOLLAR GENERAL WITHIN FIVE MINUTES EITHER DIRECTION SO WHY ARE WE BUILDING ANOTHER ONE[02:10:01]
HEARING TONIGHT THAT THIS HAS BEEN ZONED COMMERCIAL FOR MANY YEARS BUT YET WE BUILD ALL OF THESE HOUSES AROUND IT NOW WE WANT TO IMPLANT SOME BUSINESS IT IN THERE WAS GOING TO BRING A VERY BIG AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC STILL AGAIN WHAT IS THE NECESSITY I CAN'T FIGURE THAT OUT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN AFFECTED BY THE ELECTRICAL PLANT BY BEING THAT BEING PUT IN THERE ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE SPEED THE SPEED COMING THROUGH THERE WE'RE RIGHT ON THE CORNER AND I'M AFRAID SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME THROUGH THERE ONE DAY LOSE CONTROL AND COME STRAIGHT INTO MY BEDROOM THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STORE BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE ALREADY AND THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE EVEN MORE TRAFFIC COMING INTO THAT LITTLE TINY AREA UM I BEG YOU PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO CAUSE EVEN MORE HAVOC THAN IT'S ALREADY THERE THANK YOU MAY I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK SURE YES UH CAN YOU HELP ME AND NOT FORGIVE ME I MISSED YOUR NAME AGAIN I'M JUST PARTISAN MARGARET HARDINGTON MS HARDISON UM THE WHICH WHICH PROPERTY I'M JUST JUST WANT TO PUT PUT YOU ON THE MAP WHICH PROPERTY ARE YOU ARE YOU AT THE ARE YOU ON THE OFF JUST OFF OF THE GROUD ARE YOU BEHIND THE 36TH AND THE CORNER LOT RIGHT ON THAT UM THE ROUTE IN SEXTON THE GROOT IN SECTIONS JUST SOUTH I GUESS THERE ARE NO SECTIONS ON THE NORTH SO YOUR BASE IS NORTH TOWARDS THE PARK RIGHT YES OKAY SO IT'D BE THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE CONNECTIVITY FOR SIDEWALKS OKAY ALL RIGHT UM THAT'S ALL MAYOR THANK YOU THANK YOU IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM NO BUT SPEAKING CARDS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MRS SPEER I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I THINK WITH REGARDS TO MRS HARDISON I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ISSUE CERTAINLY WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT THIS AFTERNOON I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE TRAFFIC IS THERE NOW THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THIS WILL NOT ADD ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CERTAINLY THE ANY PERMITTED USE THAT CAN GO ON THAT SITE IS GOING TO GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC THAN THIS WOULD USE OR CERTAINLY AT LEAST THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC SO THE TRAFFIC IS IS AN ISSUE I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP I THINK THAT'S BEEN SORT OF FOCUSED IN BY COUNCIL IS IS WHAT WHAT CAN BE DONE HOW CAN THIS BE HANDLED AND I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY'RE WILLING TO TO DO WHATEVER'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY BY CITY STAFF AGREED TO WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND MR WATANABE UH TO TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE I MEAN IT IS A SITUATION HAS EXIST RIGHT NOW THEY'VE CERTAINLY INDICATED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME RESOLUTION TO TO ADDRESS ANY POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT MAY EXIST THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM SEEING AND HEARING NONE I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE MOTION TO APPROVE CASE CU-29-2020 WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ONE THROUGH FIVE TO INCLUDE UM A SIDEWALK UM CONNECTING TO JAMES MCGRIFF PARK IF UM PROPERTY RIGHT-OF-WAY CAN BE PROVIDED AS WELL AS A TURNING LANE UH MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER DISCUSSION COUNCIL POINT OF ORDER REAL QUICK MAYOR UH DOES THE DEPUTY MAYOR MIND AMENDING THAT TO GO SOUTH TO SAXTON AS WELL HE SAYS SEXTON OR SAXTON YEAH THOSE JUST I KNOW THOSE ROADS ARE VERY YES THEY'RE SIMILAR YES I DON'T KNOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE CLARITY OF YOUR INTENDED EMOTIONS OKAY OKAY SEXY UM BUT SAX NEEDS THE ROAD TO THE SOUTH THAT WAS THE ROAD THAT I WAS THAT I WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE THAT A POINT OF ORDER UH FOR THE APPLICANT I THINK BUT THE PLUG THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED WHAT WE ALSO WANT TO DO IS AS FAR AS[02:15:03]
THE UM ANY OF THE SIDEWALK OR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT MITIGATION CONDITION THAT UPON A RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CITY ENGINEER DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW OKAY ALL RIGHT THEN I'LL I'M IN MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S SUGGESTION IS THERE A SECOND SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL I'LL GO FIRST MAYOR UM AND I THINK ALL OF COUNCIL IS ON THE SAME PAGE IN REGARDS TO TRAFFIC UM IMPACT AS WELL AS YOU HEAR OUR COMMUNITY UM BUT IN THIS CASE AND I AGREE WITH MR MOE ALLEN WE ALL RIGHT BEFORE WHEN MRS BROWN WAS SPEAKING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL GROWTH YOU KNOW BUT AT THE SAME TIME MORE IMPORTANTLY COMMERCIAL GROWTH IS COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT AS WELL BUT I DO HAVE THE UTMOST CONFIDENCE IN MR WATANABE WHEN HE CAME UP HERE AND SPOKE AND I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN BAILEY CALLED HIM UP UM THAT HE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE HE SEES THIS WITH A FINE YOU KNOW WITH A FINE TOOTH PIN AND UM HE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S ADDRESSED SO THAT WAY OUR THIS AREA IS SAFE AND THIS AREA IS UM ADEQUATE FOR OUR COMMUNITY SO I APPRECIATE YOU MR WATANABE I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT MR MUALLUM EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND THIS COUNCIL AND UM MRS SMITH THANK YOU FOR UH HELPING ME OUT ON THAT SO THAT'S ALL MAYOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL COUNCILMAN I'LL DEFER MR FOSTER IF HE WOULD LIKE TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER YEAH I THINK THE APPLICANT MET UM THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY DID A TRAFFIC STUDY AND UM I LOOKED OVER THIS TRAFFIC STUDY WHILE I WAS TALKING AND YOU KNOW THESE DONE BY PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE SO WHEN WE WHEN WE AND I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS UM BECAUSE I WORKED THEM AS A POLICE OFFICER AND I TRAVELED THAT ROAD THAT IS A DANGEROUS ROAD BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE BUSINESS OWNERS WANT TO PUT A BUSINESS THERE BECAUSE THE WAY THE ROAD IS AND THE WAY THE CITIZENS DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD IF WE DON'T HAVE NO BUSINESS THERE RIGHT NOW IN THAT COMMERCIAL IT STILL BE A TRAFFIC IT'S A TRAFFIC HAZARD IT'S A TRAFFIC HAZARD RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S NOT THE BUSINESS THEY'RE NOT TRAFFIC ENFORCERS SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE HELD BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A DUTY FOR SAFETY AND WE AS A COUNCIL YES LIKE THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID STATE UH COMMERCIAL GROWTH IS IMPORTANT BUT SAFETY IS MY NUMBER ONE IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CITIZENS WE GOT TO WE HAVE A DUTY UP HERE TO MAKE SURE THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY IS SAFE OKAY SO IF YOU PUT A BUSINESS THERE YEAH IT'S GOING TO BE SOME TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO SHOP BUT I LOOKED AT YOUR REPORT I LOOKED AT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND SAYS NO NO ADVERSE TRAFFIC IMPACT ON TO GROUP ROAD WILL RESULT FROM ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT AND THEN YOU GOT A ON-SITE OBSERVATION REPORT IN HERE AND IT TALKS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND ONE OF THE WHAT'S IT WHAT'S THAT UM DO PARKING MANEUVERS MP OTHER VEHICLES NO UM IS THERE A MAJOR ROAD VEHICLE SLOW TURN DO IT IMPEDE OTHER VEHICLES NO I MEAN SO YEAH I DID YOUR HOMEWORK UM AND I INVITE PEOPLE TO READ THAT UM ON-SITE OBSERVATION REPORT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK NOBODY ON THE COUNCIL DID AN ON-SITE OBSERVATION REPORT SO I APPRECIATE THIS REPORT BUT UM THE REASON I SECONDED THE MOTION IS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ADDRESS THE SAFETY CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WALKING ON THAT SIDE OF THIS STREET WHERE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK AND WE HAVE A TURNING LANE AND UM AND SO YOUR CUSTOMERS COULD TURN IN THAT PROPERLY SAFE OR COME OUT OF THAT PROPERLY SAFE AND NOT GET HIT I ADDRESSED THE LIGHTING LIGHTINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT NOBODY TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING BUT DRIVING THERE AT NIGHT YOU IT'S DARK RIGHT NOW YOU MIGHT HAVE CUSTOMERS COMING OUT THERE AND A CAR CAN'T NOT SEE OR BLINDED BY THE LIGHT ON THAT CURVE SO LIGHTING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT UH YOU PUT GOOD LIGHTING UP THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIGHTING ON THAT STREET[02:20:05]
THERE'S NO LIGHTING ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS AND HEADLIGHTS COMING OUT OF THAT THAT LOCATION SO IF IF YOUR PROPERTY IS WELL LIT THAT'S GOING TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE DRIVER TO SLOW DOWN AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE WALKING AT NIGHT OR PULLING OUT OF THAT BUSINESS AT NIGHT SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THEM COMMENTS AND THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN THANK YOU COUNCILMAN BAILEY THANK YOU MAYOR UM SO AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I THINK I CREATED I THINK MAYBE WE UNDERSTOOD EACH OTHER BUT I KNOW I SAID THE WRONG WORD WITH SAXONY IS THAT CORRECT THE MOTION IS TO GO SOUTH AS WELL AS TO NORTH I THINK THAT WAS OUR CONVERSATION WITH SWAN NOT ME OKAY UM JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD UM BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SAFETY ON BOTH SIDES AS MY PRIMARY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE REASON WHY I VOTED AGAINST A SIMILAR APPLICATION I BELIEVE WAS THE SAME APPLICANT ACTUALLY ON UM EMERSON I WAS JUST BECAUSE IT WAS ON A CURVE WE HAVE A DISCOUNT RESTILL RETAIL STORE DOLLAR GENERAL OR DOLLAR ONE OF THE DOLLAR STORES IN THAT LOCATION IT WAS A CONCERN AND YOU KNOW AND QUITE FRANKLY I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS REAL QUICK THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY MR MIA ALLEN WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS NOW ONE OF THE LARGEST VACANT LOT OWNERS IN THE IN THE CITY OR THE LARGEST UM I THINK THAT THE SCRUTINY THAT WE WE'VE GIVEN TONIGHT IS WHAT'S REQUIRED IN OUR CODE IT IS THERE ON PURPOSE SAFETY ITEM A SAFETY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT I THINK IT'S A FOR A REASON FOR US TO CONSIDER FIRST AND NOT SKIP OVER AND I THINK MY QUESTIONS WERE TO GET US THERE AND I'M ACTUALLY YOU KNOW I WOULD BE FRANK WITH YOU WITHOUT THE SIDEWALK THERE WITHOUT HEARING YOU KNOW COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FROM OUR STAFF I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HOLE FOR ME AND UH WE'RE HERE TO LOOK FOR YOU KNOW UNIQUE FUNCTIONAL CHARACTERISTICS IT SAYS IN OUR CODE AND THAT POTENTIAL INCOMPATIBILITY AND I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME WITH PEDESTRIANS SEEING THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE UM I WILL GIVE SUPPORT UH TO THIS ITEM I STILL DON'T THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE BUT THERE ARE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN BESTOWED UPON THIS PROPERTY AND I THINK THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO TO UH TO USE IT AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO DO THAT TONIGHT WITH THAT WITH THAT CLARIFICATION HERE WE HAVE THE SAFETY THINGS ADDRESSED I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC I THINK THAT THAT'S MORE ROUTINE I THINK THAT THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IS IS REGULARLY HANDLED BY PUBLIC WORKS PEDESTRIAN IS JUST ONE THAT I THINK IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BEING NO MEMBER OF TPO UM YOU KNOW I DON'T GO OVERBOARD IN IN THINGS UH BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA DIE AND SO I THINK THAT IT IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING THE UH THE LIGHTING I THINK WAS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED AND I THINK THE OTHER UH ITEMS HERE WERE TOO SO I'LL END THERE THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX YEAH WE UH WE OBVIOUSLY UH DISCUSSED THIS IN GREAT DETAIL AND AND WE ADDRESSED QUITE A BIT UH DIFFERENT ASPECT OF THE OF THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT UM AGAIN I'M GLAD AS UH COUNCILMAN BAILEY MENTIONED UH MANY ASK OF THE UH OF THE APPLICANT FROM THE YOU KNOW SIDE OF THE SIDE YOU KNOW ADDRESSING THE THE SIDE WORKS UH ASPECT AND AND BRINGING UH THE THE CITY ENGINEER UH UP AND WAS ABLE TO SHARE WITH US SOME SOME OF HIS CONCERNS AS WELL UM I'M STILL NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SOLD UM ON THE IDEA BUT ALSO THERE'S A FINE A FINE YOU KNOW LINE THERE BECAUSE WE ALSO IS A COUNCIL THAT IS LOOKING TO GROW LOOKING FOR BUSINESS UH UH TO BRING BUSINESS INTO THE CITY UM SO UH AGAIN YOU KNOW I'M STILL BUT BUT I SEE I I I SEE BOTH SIDES UM SO I'LL LEAVE YOU GUYS THEN THANK YOU ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION UH MY COMMENTS ARE I'M GLAD THAT WE DID DISCUSS THESE DETAILS AND AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT MR MOELLEN IT IS ABOUT INCREASING OUR COMMERCIAL UH ENTERPRISE HERE IN IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY BUT NEVER COMPROMISING THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS SO ELOQUENTLY IT WAS PUT BY OUR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AT THIS TIME I WANT TO CALL THE ACTION TO A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR AYE AYE[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]
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I KNOW AT OUR LAST MEETING THERE WERE QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE PENSION BOARD AS FAR AS WHETHER COUNCIL COULD APPOINT SOMEONE PRIOR TO THE END OF THE TERM AND SO I DID PROVIDE THE MEMO COUNCIL DOES APPOINT TO MEMBERS TO THE BOARD AND IT'S THEY SERVE AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AND IT'S THE DECISION IS COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU BROUGHT THIS UP UH DO YOU WISH TO COMMENT YES MAY I I WILL MAKE A COMMENT UM THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION AND THEY HASN'T THEY TERM HASN'T EXPIRED AND THEY WISH TO CONTINUE TO SERVE UM AND THEN ONCE THE TERM EXPIRE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND THEN WE COULD CHOOSE SOMEONE FOR THAT POSITION I THINK YES THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL EVERYBODY WHO SERVE ON ANY BOARD SERVED AS THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL BUT YOU BUT EVEN THOUGH THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL YOU GOT A REASON TO REMOVE SOMEONE FOR CAUSE IF WE JUST REMOVE SOMEONE TO PUT SOMEONE ELSE ON THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE CAUSE LIKE NOT SHOWING UP TO MEETINGS NOT DOING THEIR JOB ON THE BOARD THEN WE WE'RE SETTING A BAD PRESENCE SO UM YOU KNOW I I KNOW YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO SERVE ON THAT UM UM I HAVE A DESIRE TOO BUT I DON'T THINK I I'M PROPERLY FITTED TO SERVE ON THAT AND I GOT MY REASONS FOR THAT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT BUT UM HERE RIGHT NOW BUT UM I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT AS IS LET THE INDIVIDUAL SERVE OUT HIS TIME AND THEN UM AND THEN ADDRESS IT TWO YEARS FROM NOW UH DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON YES UM I I DO WANT TO JUST QUICKLY UM READ AS A RESULT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REPLACE A RESIDENT MEMBER PRIOR TO THE END OF THE TERM MEMBERS TERM WITHOUT HAVING CAUSE UM WE DON'T NEED CAUSE BUT I'M FINE WITH KEEPING THEM ON UNTIL AND THEN REPLACING HIM UM SO I'M FINE WITH JUST LETTING HIM SERVE OUT HIS TERM UM EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T NEED CALLS TO REMOVE THEM SO COUNCILMAN BAILEY MAYOR UM YEAH I I WANT TO ADDRESS TWO THINGS UM ONE IS UH THE I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN BOARDS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL THERE ARE CERTAIN BOARDS WHERE YOU THEIR STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR REMOVAL SO THERE IS DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN SOME BOARDS P AND Z AND CODE BEING DIFFERENT FROM THIS UM SO I DO THINK IT'S DIFFERENT THE THE SECOND THING IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT MR FOSTER HAS EXPRESSED THAT THE CURRENT YOU KNOW OUR FORMER MAYOR WISHES TO CONTINUE HOWEVER I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT UM HE HAS NOT CONTACTED ME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MEMBERS PERHAPS HE HAS CONTACTED DEPUTY MAYOR AND OTHERS BUT AS WELL BUT I I I HAVE NOT BEEN CONTACTED SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I GUESS FROM I DON'T I DON'T QUESTION THAT THAT IS TRUE THAT HE HAS EXPRESSED THAT INTENT TO MR FOSTER UH BUT HE HAS NOT EXPRESSED IT TO ME SO THEREFORE IT'D BE KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO CONSIDER KEEPING HIM UH WITH THE FINAL POINT HERE AND I THINK MY OPINION IS HAVING SERVED FOR UM SIX YEARS UH WITH WITH UH THE INCUMBENT UM THAT WE WE'VE ALWAYS RECOGNIZED THAT THIS IS A RESIDENT POSITION I MEAN WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A RESIDENT POSITION IN THE CODE BUT WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT WE'VE PUT A MEMBER OF COUNCIL ON THERE HE HAD SERVED ON THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS A PERIOD THERE ALWAYS COMES A TIME WHEN TURNOVER IS GOOD HE SERVED ON THERE I BELIEVE STARTING WHEN HE WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL AS EIGHT YEARS AS MAYOR SO THAT HAS GIVEN HIM EXPERIENCE THAT IS GREAT BUT WE HAVE TERM LIMITS FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WE HAVE UH YOU KNOW I THINK TERM LIMITS BEING CONSIDERED FOR SOME OF OUR BOARDS MIGHT BE A GOOD CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK BUILDING MORE HUMAN CAPITAL AND MORE CAPITAL AMONGST THIS BOARD WITH THAT ISSUE WOULD BE IMPORTANT SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE SEEN AS ANY TYPE OF ADVERSE[02:30:01]
ACTION AGAINST UH MR CAPOTE TO REPLACE HIM WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER UM AND AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK I WOULDN'T THINK THAT HE WOULD FEEL THAT WAY EITHER I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE BEYOND THAT BOARD AND AND LIKE I SAID I KNOW LAST MEETING I KNOW I SAID THAT I EXPRESSED THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THERE YOU KNOW HAVING YOU KNOW AN ECONOMIC BACKGROUND UM AND AND CERTAIN EXPERIENCE ON THE SPORT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THAT BOARD HOWEVER I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAYOR EXPRESSED ISSUE SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO ALLOW OUR CURRENT MAYOR TO TO GET ON THAT BOARD EITHER MYSELF WHICHEVER IS APPROPRIATE UM AND AND MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE YOU KNOW IT'S NORMALLY THESE ARE ROUTINE THINGS I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD NORMALLY EVER BE A DISCUSSION BE HONEST WITH YOU UM AND AND AND THAT THAT'S KIND OF MY TWO CENTS ON IT THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX UM I WOULD LIKE UH FOR MRS SMITH IF YOU WOULD BRING THAT ORDINANCE THAT SPECIFICALLY CAN YOU READ IT FOR THE RECORD SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE ORDNANCE FOR THE PENSION UM CORRECT COVER THE THE ARE YOU REFERRING TO SECTION 55.04 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES CORRECT YES THE SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE ADMINISTRATION AND OF AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PROPER OPERATION OF THE SYSTEM AND FOR MAKING EFFECT OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SUB-CHAPTER IS HEREBY VESTED IN THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THE BOARD IS HEREBY DESIGNATED AS THE PLAN ADMINISTRATOR THE BOARD SHALL CONSIST OF FIVE TRUSTEES TWO OF WHOM UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY LAW SHALL BE LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY WHO SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL ONE OF WHOM SHALL BE A POLICE OFFICER MEMBER OF THE SYSTEM WHO SHALL BE ELECTED BY A MAJORITY OF THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE SYSTEM AND ONE OF WHOM SHOULD BE A FIREFIGHTER MEMBER OF THE SYSTEM WHO SHALL BE ELECTED BY A MAJORITY OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE SYSTEM THE FIFTH TRUSTEE SHALL BE CHOSEN BY A MAJORITY OF THE PREVIOUS FOUR TRUSTEES AS PROVIDED FOR HEREIN AND SUCH PERSON'S NAME SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL UPON RECEIPT OF THE FIFTH PERSON'S NAME THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL SHALL AS A MINISTERIAL DUTY APPOINT SUCH PERSON TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS ITS FIFTH TRUSTEE THE FIFTH TRUSTEE SHALL HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS EACH OF THE OTHER FOUR TRUSTEES APPOINTED OR ELECTED AS HEREIN PROVIDED AND SHALL SERVE A TWO-YEAR TERM UNLESS HE SOONER VACATES THE OFFICE EACH RESIDENT TRUSTEE SHALL SERVE AS TRUSTEE FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS UNLESS HE SOONER VACATES TO OFFICE OR IS SOONER REPLACED BY THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL AT WHOSE PLEASURE HE SHALL SERVE EACH MEMBER TRUSTEE SHALL SERVE AS TRUSTEE FOR A PERIOD OF TWO TWO YEARS UNLESS HE SOONER LEAVES THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY AS A POLICE OFFICER OR FIREFIGHTER OR OTHERWISE VACATES HIS OFFICE AS TRUSTEE WHEREUPON HIS SUCCESSOR SHALL BE CHOSEN IN THE SAME MANNER AS ORIGINALLY EACH TRUSTEE MAY SECEDE HIMSELF IN OFFICE THE BOARD SHALL ESTABLISH AND MINISTER THE NOMINATING AND ELECTING ELECTION PROCEDURES FOR EACH ELECTION THE BOARD SHALL MEET AT LEAST QUARTERLY EACH YEAR BOARD SHALL BE A LEGAL ENTITY WITH IN ADDITION TO OTHER POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES CONTAINED HEREIN THE POWER TO BRING AND DEFEND LAWSUITS OF EVERY KIND NATURE AND DESCRIPTION THANK YOU SO MUCH UM I GUESS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE UH COUNCILMAN BAILEY DID MENTION IT UM YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY FULLY AWARE OF THE OF THE UH ORDINANCE UM AS FAR AS THE TWO POSITION AS RESIDENT OF THE CITY UM I DON'T THINK IN NO WHERE IN THE ORDINANCE WHERE IT SAYS IT MUST BE A COUNCIL MEMBER PART OF THAT BOARD IN THAT PARTICULAR THOSE TWO SEATS WELL I DO UNDERSTAND AS WELL WE ARE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY SO UM WITH THAT BEING SAID I SEE I MEAN I WOULD IF WE'RE GOING TO UPHOLD OR YOU KNOW FOLLOW ORDINANCE I THINK FORMER MAYOR CAPOTE SHOULD REMAIN UNTIL THIS STORY IS UP UM 2022 AND THEN AT THAT POINT COUNCIL MAY APPOINT ANOTHER RESIDENT OF THE CITY THAT THAT'S JUST WHAT I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION AS FAR AS I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE AND AND MAYOR I DO UNDERSTAND YOU EXPRESS AND CLEARLY EXPRESS INTEREST OF WANTING TO SERVE I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO YOUR REQUEST BUT TO ME I THINK WE SHALL LEAVE IT ALONE AND SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE TONIGHT I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND AND MOVE FORWARD OKAY SO I HAVE A FEW POINTS I LIKE TO MAKE THE FIRST IS THE COMMUNITY HAS HIRED A MAYOR THAT'S WILLING[02:35:09]
TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY FERVENTLY THAT'S THE FIRST POINT I I'D LIKE TO MAKE AND SITTING ON THIS BOARD HAS LED AND BEEN THERE'S BEEN A PRECEDENCE IN THIS BOARD PREVIOUS MAYOR JOHN MAZZIOTTI SAID ON THIS BOARD PRIOR TO MAYOR WILLIAM CAPOTE THAT THAT WAS THE TRANSITION WHEN JOHN MASIATI WAS NOT RE-ELECTED MAYOR CAPOTE PICKED UP THE BATON AT THAT POINT AND PASSED IT ON SO THERE IS PRECEDENCE OF US CONTINUING THAT TRADITION THAT BEING SAID WE ALL KNOW AS OUR COUNCILMAN BAILEY MENTIONED UH THEIR TERM LIMITS AND IN TERM LIMITS WE'RE HOLDING TO THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US UP HERE WHEN EITHER WE'RE TURNED OUT OR WE'RE NOT ELECTED AGAIN WE STEP DOWN AND THERE ARE ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT STATE UH WE CANNOT GO WORK FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT THERE'S A REASON FOR TERM LIMITS WE CAN'T GO LOBBY THIS BOARD IF ONCE OUR TERM IS OVER BECAUSE THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT IT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE SO COUNCIL I AM WILLING TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY I'D ALSO LIKE TO STATE THAT WE SHOULD WORK TOWARDS IT I'D LIKE TO TO WORK WITH MISS UH SMITH BECAUSE IN MY OPINION THIS IS A LOOPHOLE THIS IS A LOOPHOLE BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO WORK FOR THE CITY FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS BECAUSE WE SERVED ON THIS BOARD THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT SO THERE SHOULD BE THE SAME ORDINANCE APPLIES I'M WILLING TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD AS YOUR MAYOR AS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US KNOWS AND THAT'S WHERE IT LIES THERE'S A REASON FOR US AND AND WE'RE SUBJECT TO THIS WE'RE LITERALLY SUBJECT TO THIS FOUR YEARS FROM NOW WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ON THIS BOARD ANYMORE WE CERTAINLY CAN'T WE HAVE TO CUT TIES AT THAT POINT SO THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF MY WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THIS IS A NEW DAY I'VE SHARED WITH YOU MY CONCERNS AND PERHAPS WORKING TOWARDS UH FIXING THIS LOOPHOLE AND AND MAYBE ADDING THAT THIS BOARD AS UH COUNCILMAN BAILEY SAYS WE WE SAY THAT HEY A MEMBER OF COUNCIL SHOULD SERVE AND PERHAPS EITHER THE MAYOR OR THE DEPUTY MAYOR COULD BE SPECIFICALLY MADE UH A POINT OF THAT IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND THEN PASS THAT ON IF IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SERVE MAYOR YES SIR I I DEFINITELY SEE WHAT YOU MEAN IN REGARDS TO A LOOPHOLE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING UH YOURSELF OR COUNCILMAN BAILEY WILL WANT TO PICK UP AND WORK WITH UM STAFF FOR MRS SMITH BUT UM I'M YOU KNOW IN IN THIS POINT IN TIME I'M STILL ON JUST LETTING THEM FINISH OUT BUT TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOESN'T OCCUR AGAIN UM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOU OR COUNCILMAN BAILEY WHO WANT TO PICK UP PICK UP FOR THAT BUT UM I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL SO CAN I MAYOR UM I I UNDERSTAND YOU YOU JUST I'M COMMENTING OFF WHAT YOU SAID I'M NOT TRYING TO GET IN A DEBATE WITH YOU I'M JUST COMMENTING OFF WHAT YOU SAID WHERE I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE UM WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT FROM ONE MAYOR FROM MADRID TO CAPOTE UM YOU WAS RIGHT IN THAT SENSE THEY BOTH SERVED ON THIS UM UM POLICE PENSION BOARD UM BUT MR CAPOTE TERM HAS NOT EXPIRED AND THAT'S THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET YOU TO SEE HIS TERM IS NOT AS EXPIRED THERE'S TWO[02:40:03]
PEOPLE THERE'S TWO RESIDENTS ON THAT BOARD THAT WE COULD REPLACE MR CAPOTE AND ANOTHER GENTLEMAN BUT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT MR CAPOTE AND HIS TERMS NOT EXPIRE AND THE OTHER GENTLEMAN WHO SERVED ON THAT I WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT HIM IF HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS TERM BECAUSE HIS TERMS NOT EXPIRE AND YOU COULD I DON'T KNOW UH TERRY HAS THE THE TERM BUT I TALKED TO MR CAPOTE UM AND HE WANTS TO SERVE ON IT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY JEFF BELLY DON'T BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY HE WANTS TO SERVE I WOULDN'T SIT UP HERE AND LIE THAT A PERSON CAME TO ME I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO ME WANT TO SERVE ON THE BOARD I'M JUST NOT GOING TO REPLACE THEM BECAUSE UM THEY WANT TO SERVE REPLACE SOMEBODY ELSE AND PUT THEM ON BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SERVE THAT PERSON HAVE TO RIDE OUT THEY THEY TERM AND THAT'S THE PRESIDENT I DON'T WANT TO SET HERE TO REMOVE SOMEONE BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO SERVE IN THAT PLACE YEAH I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO SERVE AND I HAVE MY REASONS WHY I DON'T WANT TO SERVE OKAY YOU HAVE YOUR REASON WHY YOU WANT TO SERVE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF THE BOARD BECAUSE THE TERM DOES NOT EXPIRE AND WE DON'T HAVE CAUSE FOR THAT THANK YOU SIR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION YEAH I SENT AN EMAIL ASKING STAFF I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHEN WAS THE APPOINTMENT THE REAPPOINTMENT DATE AND WHAT'S THE I GUESS WHAT'S THE TERM WHAT'S THE CURRENT TERM AND AND WHILE THEY LOOKED THAT UP REAL QUICK MAYOR JUST REAL QUICK MR FOSTER UM SEEMED TO HAVE INTERPRETED THAT THE THAT THAT I WAS QUESTIONING WHETHER IT WAS TRUE THAT THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS QUESTIONING WHAT I DO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE IS THAT YOU KNOW IF HE CONTACTED ONE MEMBER NOT THE WHOLE BOARD THEN YOU KNOW IT'S WE'RE KIND OF DOING A ROUTINE THING IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE WHAT THE ROUTINE THING IS WHICH IS USUALLY WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THERE AND AT SOME TIME I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS IN BOTH POSITIONS HISTORICALLY WHICH I ACTUALLY THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM YOU KNOW REMOVING BOTH OF THEM AND HAVING BOTH THE MAYOR AND A MEMBER OF COUNCIL ON THERE AT THIS TIME THAT MIGHT BE A MORE APPROPRIATE MOVE TO GO BACK TO THAT TRADITION UM IT CERTAINLY WASN'T NO THERE WASN'T AN INTEGRITY ISSUE THERE IT WAS JUST MORE OF THE FACT THAT LOOK IF HE HASN'T COME TO ASK ME THAT AND TO ME THIS IS A ROUTINE THING WHY WOULDN'T I DO THE ROUTINE THING I MEAN IF HE ASKED ME WHEN WE HAD A CONVERSATION FURTHER THEN MAYBE THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING TO PERSUADE ME BUT THERE WASN'T THAT THAT WAS MY ONLY POINT MAYOR BUT CAN I MAKE A POINT SIR UP TO THE MAYOR I I'M DYING OTHER THAN I WAS ASKING A QUESTION FOR MRS LEFFLER OKAY THE TERM IS SET TO EXPIRE ON MARCH 31ST OF 22 AND IT'S A TWO-YEAR TERM SO IT LOOKS AS THOUGH HE WAS PROBABLY APPOINTED ON APRIL 1ST OF 20. OKAY YEAH SO THAT WAS SO THIS ONE WAS LIKE AN OFF BASIS THING BUT JUST THE FACT THAT STAFF PUT THIS ON IT'S SOMETHING NORMALLY WE REVIEW I MEAN I DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS PUT ON THERE WITH ANY TYPE OF INTENTION AS FAR AS I KNOW I I GUESS I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THERE COULD I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY ASKED BEHIND THE SCENES TO PUT IT ON THERE BUT AS FAR AS I I LOOKED AT I JUST LOOKED AT IT AS ROUTINE AND UM WAS THERE SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER DISCUSSION I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS UH FOR THIS THE REASONS I STATED UM COUNCILMAN BAILEY WOULD YOU CONSIDER UH WORKING WITH UH MISS SMITH REGARDING SOLIDIFYING UH THE FUTURE OR WOULD YOU WANT YOU PREFER THAT LET ME BRING BACK TERM LIMIT UH TERMINAL PERMISSION YEAH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT OKAY UH MAYOR CARRY ON COUNCIL WOULD WE UH WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WORKING WITH MS WITH MISS SMITH IN REGARDS OF WORKING ON THE WORDING OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY STATE TO TO CITIZEN IN THAT INDUSTRY TO MAKING MAKING IT A COUNCIL MEMBER OKAY SO THE WORD EITHER THE MAYOR OR OR THE DEPUTY MAYOR IF THE MAYOR CAN'T FULFILL THAT THEN PERHAPS THE DEPUTY MAYOR OKAY UM SO I MEAN YESTERDAY I I I GET AND AS YOU YOU CLEARLY STATED STATED THAT THERE'S A PRECEDENT AND I I UNDERSTAND IT I PERSONALLY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER I I DON'T I'M NOT SEEING THE NECESSITY AS ONE OF US MUST SERVE BECAUSE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AS WELL WOULD IT BE SOMEWHAT CONFLICTING BECAUSE WE ARE WE PLAYING BOTH SIDES BECAUSE THAT BOARD PARTICULAR BOARD MAKE DECISION AS TO[02:45:03]
YOU KNOW PENSION AND SO ON THAT COUNCIL HAVE A SAY IS AM I AM I CORRECT WOULD HAVE TO COME BE PL PLEASE UNLIKE ME SOMEONE BECAUSE HE WANTS THAT BOARD MAKE RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATION RECOMMENDATION WITH WITH UH WITH THE UNION ON ON IS IT NOT COUNSELOR I MAY HAVE YEAH IF NO THAT'S JUST A QUESTION MAY YOU KNOW MAKE IT CLEAR TO ME BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT AND YOU KNOW FORGET FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE ARE YOU ASKING OUR STAFF OF MISS PATRICIA OKAY WELL COUNCILMAN BAILEY YOU CERTAINLY CAN UH CHIME IN IF YOU WANT BUT MRS SMITH OKAY I WILL MISS SMITH CAN PICK UP THE PIECES BUT NO THEY'RE NOT MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON BARGAINING UM AND QUITE FRANKLY THEY DON'T MEAN THEY THEY GIVE US A REPORT BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE MONITORING THE FUN AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER UH SOME OTHER DUTIES THEY HAVE AS FAR AS MAKING RULINGS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE RETIREES UM AND THEY'RE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY PICKING THEIR FINANCIAL ADVISOR BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT AN ADVISORY BOARD AS OTHER BOARDS ARE OKAY BUT UM AND I'LL LET MS SMITH ADD OR THAT'S CORRECT USUALLY THEY'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UM WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH THERE MAY BE UM ISSUES THAT COME UP WITH AS FAR AS UH EMPLOYEES PENSION AND WHETHER YOU KNOW THE ISSUES WHAT'S COMPENSABLE WHERE THEY ARE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS OKAY AND ELIGIBILITY THINGS YEAH AND AND FORGIVE ME I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS THE ANSWER BUT BECAUSE I BECAUSE I WOULD BE DOING JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND IT MIGHT BE CONJECTURE BUT I BELIEVE IN THE PAST NORMALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE SITUATION IS THE MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHO IS LEAVING WOULD JUST RESIGN I MEAN THEY WOULDN'T THERE WOULDN'T BE A I WANT TO STAY ON THERE WOULD BE OKAY I'M MOVING ON AND SO I'M MOVING ON THAT POSITION TO ALLOW THE NEXT PERSON TO DO IT IS THERE ANY HISTORY THAT WE HAVE ON THAT DID THAT HAPPEN LIKE FOR INSTANCE WITH I DON'T KNOW MAYOR MESSIAH IT LOOKS LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE LEFT BEFORE HIS END OF TERM ACTUALLY HAPPENED BUT I THINK IN THE PAST THEY JUST LEFT IT WASN'T EVER I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER A QUESTION AND FORGIVE ME AND WE MIGHT NOT GET THE ANSWER TONIGHT IT MIGHT NOT SOLVE IT UH MAYOR BUT YOU KNOW LIKE I SAID TO ME IT JUST IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT WE WOULD APPOINT A MEMBER OF COUNCIL I THINK HAVING ONE OF US THERE HAVING EYES ON THAT FUND ONE OF US THERE TO HAVE UM DIRECT ACCESS AND AND STAYING UM ABREAST OF THE THE ACTUARY REPORTS AND THE FINANCIAL POSITION WE'RE GOING TO GET IT AND YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK STAFF YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO THEIR I MEAN THEIR BOARD MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO I PRESUME WE CAN WATCH WE JUST CAN'T COMMENT BECAUSE THERE'S A ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME BUT UM I MEAN THERE'S WAYS TO KEEP IN TOUCH BUT IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE ON THE BOARD AND THAT'S YOUR JOB YOU KNOW SO I I STILL FEEL THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ONE OF US TO BE ON THERE IF NOT LIKE I SAID TWO OF US I MEAN MAYBE NOT HAVING FORTUNATE TO BE TWO MAYBE HAVING FUN BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS SO WE CAN ALWAYS POINT TO IT HAS HAPPENED UM I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY IT FELL AWAY FROM THAT I THINK I REMEMBER GETTING AN EXPLANATION FROM SOME BOARD MEMBERS PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HOW IT WENT FROM TWO TO NOW WE HAVE NONE YOU KNOW AT THIS RATE THIS THIS PARTICULAR TIME AND MOMENT THANK YOU ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION UM IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THERE'S WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT UH IS THAT CORRECT MISS SMITH YES YOU WOULD ONLY BE MAKING A MOTION IF YOU WERE UM SEEKING TO MAKE CHANGE BUT IF YOU WERE JUST MAINTAINING A STATUS QUO NO THERE WOULD BE NO MOTION UH NEEDED TO BE MADE WELL I MEAN I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO POINT MAYOR MEDINA TO THE TO THE BOARD I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO BUT WELL AT THIS POINT I CAN'T EVEN PASS THE GAVEL BECAUSE THE DEPUTY MAYOR'S NOT HERE OH HEY I DIDN'T REALIZE HE LEFT SO TO SECOND THAT MOTION BUT IF NONE OF THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE GOING TO SUCK IN IT THE DEPUTY MAYOR MADE CLEAR WHERE HIS POSITION WAS I GUESS SO IT DIES WITHOUT A SECOND MY I DID STATE FOR THE RECORD MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS SO WE'RE MOVING ON COUNCIL REPORTS COUNCILMAN FELIX UM[COUNCIL REPORTS]
I DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT EXCEPT YOU KNOW JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY NEW YEAR WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT LAST MEETING UH UM HAPPY NEW YEAR AND AND WE ACTUALLY UH I WISH THE YOU KNOW THE THE THE BEST THE BEST OF THE BEST TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY WE HAVE A GREAT MIX UP HERE THAT WILLING AND READY TO WORK FOR THE CITY UM WE HAVE UH STELLAR STAFF THAT IS COMMITTED UM SO I WISH THE CITY UM THE BEST AND AND ALL CITIZENS DEFINITELY DESERVE THE BEST OF US SO UM WITH THAT THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX COUNCILMAN FOSTER UM[02:50:11]
I'D LIKE TO SAY THE PALM BAY HAPPY NEW YEAR WE HAD A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER HOMICIDE SHOOTINGS AND SOME CRAZY STUFF GOING ON AND I JUST PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS UM ALSO TODAY I HAD A CHANCE TO ATTEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UM AWARDS CEREMONY AND I FOUND THAT UH VERY EDUCATING AND LEARNING A LOT WHAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN DO FOR US UM THE CHIEF PUT ON A GOOD PRESENTATION OF AWARDS AND RECOGNITION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WORK FOR HIM ALSO I WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW I'M GOING TO BE AT MAYOR JAKE WILLIAMS FUNERAL TOMORROW HE WAS A GOOD MAN HE WAS AN AIR FORCE VETERAN HE PASSED AWAY WITH A HEART ATTACK IN HIS HOME WITH HIS UM I THINK HE WAS WITH HIS UM UH GRANDKID SHE WAS LIKE SEVEN YEARS OLD WHO CALLED 9-1-1 AND UH GRANDFATHER LAID THEIR DEAD BUT HE WAS A GOOD HE SERVED OUR COMMUNITY HE SERVED OUR COUNTRY AND I WANT TO GO AND RECOGNIZE HIM FOR THAT THAT'S ALL HAPPENED THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX WANTED TO TAKE ANOTHER ROUND THAT REPORTS I WANTED TO ADD I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WANTING TO UH WHERE DO YOU SAY THANK YOU TO UH PHILLIP WEINBERG MR PHILIP WEINBERG HE'S BEEN A GREAT UH YOU KNOW COMMUNITY UH SERVANT UM I WANT TO REAPPOINT HIM TO THE CITIZEN ADVISORY UH COMMITTEE WHICH ONE THE COUNTY THE TPO YEAH SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT TO ME COPY THAT THANK YOU PHILLIP FOR YOUR HARDER SERVING YOU SERVE THIS COMMUNITY VERY WELL MR BAILEY UM THANK YOU MAYOR AND AND JUST REAL BRIEFLY I AM THAT WASN'T ON THERE THAT REALIZED THAT IT WAS TOMORROW BUT MR FOSTER DO PASS MY UH CONDOLENCES AND HOPEFULLY FOR OFF COUNCIL TOMORROW I THINK MR WILLIAMS WAS UH RESPECTED I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I'D CALL HIM A CLOSE FRIEND AND MORE OF ACQUAINTANCE BUT I'D BUT OBVIOUSLY BE RUNNING IN CIRCLES AND I KNOW THAT HIS REPUTATION YOU KNOW SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE WHO UM WHO BUCK THE TREND SOMETIMES THEY GET IN TROUBLE YOU KNOW I KNOW HE HE UNFORTUNATELY OR HE LOST HIS LAST ELECTION BUT HE CERTAINLY HAD A COUPLE HE HAD SUCCESS UP THERE AND I KNOW THAT HE HE SERVED TO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT UM AND I APPRECIATED WHAT HE DID FROM AFAR UM SO PLEASE DO PASS OR CONDOLENCES UM UH REALLY QUICK HOUSEKEEPING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT UH JAMES BOOTHROYD UH TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE I WILL BE REMOVING HIM FROM MY POSITION ON THE COMMUNITY BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AND I WILL BE APPOINTING PETE FILIBERTO TO THAT BOARD AND THEN FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY REPORT I'M GOING TO BE APPOINTING THOMASCOM THE NEXT PIECE OF BUSINESS THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS REAL QUICK NOW PER OUR COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURES I WANTED TO GIVE A NOTIFICATION TO COUNCIL OF MY INTENT TO WORK WITH STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE IT WAS UH PREVIOUSLY SECTION 1 CHAPTER 185 0.203 IT HAS TO DO WITH SOME OF OUR REZONING UH CONDITIONS AND AND THERE WAS A PETITION PROCESS IN THERE PREVIOUSLY UM THAT I WANT TO WORK ON THAT WAS WHAT WHAT IT DOES IS ESSENTIALLY REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY IF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS UH RESIDENTIAL FOLKS AROUND THERE UH THAT THAT SITE UH SIGN A PETITION SO THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA WORK WITH STAFF TO BRING THAT BACK SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE I'VE KIND OF UM YOU KNOW STARTED LAYING SOME OF THE LEG WORK BUT BEFORE I CAN BRING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA I NEED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW SO JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE COMING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE ONCE WITH THE PLANTATION CIRCLE FOLKS SO IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ON YOU CAN CONTACT MR SMITH AND SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS DOWN THERE WHO WHO CONTACTED ME AND ASKED ME TO CONSIDER THIS AND I'LL HAVE MORE ON IT WHEN THE TIME COMES I ACTUALLY HAD VOTED TO RESCIND THIS IN THE PAST BUT I THINK RECONSIDERATION THAT SOMETIMES HAVING CERTAIN UM CERTAIN LAYERS OF PROTECTIONS FOR FOLKS AND ADDING MORE UM SCRUTINY TO ITEMS CAN BE A GOOD THING AND CERTAINLY I'VE PUSHED OUT AT TIMES FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS ON COUNCIL AND SO ANYHOW THAT'S WHY I'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM OUR PREVIOUS VERSION BUT IT WILL BUT I'M HOPING THAT COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT IT UM LASTLY I'M HOPING AND I I DON'T KNOW IF UM[02:55:06]
I DON'T KNOW IF THE UH YOU KNOW CITY MANAGER I DIDN'T ASK HER TO PREPARE ANYTHING BUT IF SHE WOULD LIKE THE COMMENTS CERTAINLY NO WOULD BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM HER I'VE BEEN UH KNOW CONSTANTLY TALKING REPUBLIC HOPEFULLY COUNCIL HAS AND DEPUTY MAYOR WAS ALREADY HERE BUT HOPEFULLY ALL OUR THREE NEW MEMBERS YOU KNOW KIND OF GOT UP TO SPEED ON THAT I HAVE TO KEEP MY UH CONTRACT HANDY AS I GET QUESTIONS FROM CITIZENS BUT THERE ARE SOME UM YOU KNOW OUTSTANDING ISSUES OUT THERE BUT I WANT TO MAKE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE WITH ANY LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT WE SEE THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE I'M HOPING TO MAYBE DISCUSS THAT MORE AT THE NEXT MEETING AND THAT WE ALSO JUST OVERSEE THIS PROCESS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE SEEING UH REPUBLIC COME THROUGH AND TAKE OUT THEIR GARBAGE CARTS UM IF YOU HAVE TWO OR MORE THEY SHOULD HAVE YOU ON A LIST AND YOU SHOULD BE GETTING A 96 GALLON OR 95 GALLON KEEP FORGETTING WHICH IF IT'S 96.95 BUT UM BUT THE LARGER CART SIZE REPLACED UM I HAVE HEARD THAT I AM AWARE OF IT THAT IT IS HAPPENING THAT THEY ARE THEY HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS UM I HAD ONE FOLKS THEY SAID THAT THEY ACTUALLY WENT UP TO THE YARD TO GET IT BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED I WAS TALKING TO MR SHERMAN THIS WEEK THAT WE'RE FOLKS SUPPOSED TO BRING DOWN BOTH CARTS EVEN IF THEY'RE EMPTY EVERY SINGLE YOU KNOW TWICE A WEEK UNTIL IT HAPPENS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER NOTIFICATION THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD KNOW WHERE THESE MULTIPLE CART SITES ARE AND BE ABLE TO KIND OF SAY HEY AT LEAST TELL US NEXT WEEK IF NOT THIS NO SOMETIME THIS WEEK SO UM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THAT AND THAT WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WE HAVE WE I THINK WE HAVE A HEALTHIER LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP IF WE SET THE RIGHT TONE OF ACCOUNTABILITY EARLY AND I THINK OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE BETTER BEST SERVED BY THAT TOO MOVING FORWARD THAT AND THAT IS ALL OF MY ITEMS TONIGHT MAYOR THANK YOU COUNCILMAN BAILEY UH DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON UH THANK YOU MAYOR UM LIKE EVERYBODY SAID I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A UM A MERRY CHRISTMAS HAPPY NEW YEAR GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY BACK HERE IN 2021 UM MY UH PRAYERS I'LL BE THERE AS WELL FOR MAYOR JAKE FORMER MAYOR JAKE WILLIAMS FUNERAL AS WELL UM OTHER THAN THAT UM PRAY FOR THIS NATION PRAY FOR THIS NATION DURING THIS TIME OF TRANSITION BEFORE I CAME TO THIS COUNCIL MEETING I SAW ONE OF THE CAPITAL OFFICERS IN DC UM PASSED AWAY SO WE WE'RE WE'RE GOING THROUGH A TIME RIGHT NOW OF TRANSITIONING AND WHETHER YOU'RE LEANING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WE'RE ALL AMERICANS AND WE NEED TO ACT LIKE IT ALL RIGHT WE DON'T NEED THE REST OF THE WORLD LAUGHING AT US YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO CONDUCT OURSELVES AND CONDUCT OURSELVES CIVILLY SO DEFINITELY YOU KNOW TREAT TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND LET'S UM REVEREND SPELMAN SAID IT EARLIER LET'S LET THE LIGHT SHINE ON PALM BAY LET'S SHOW THE REST OF THE NATION HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE SO OTHER THAN THAT THAT'S ALL MAYOR WELL THANK YOU I'M I AM ALL ABOUT SHINING LIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY AND AND UH PART OF THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO I SHARED WITH THIS COUNCIL THAT MY INTENTIONS OF CREATING DESIGNING A CHALLENGE COIN AS A FORM OF REWARDING OUR OUTSTANDING CITIZENS AND OUR OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES AND AND JUST TO REPORT TO YOU COUNCIL YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK I MAY HAVE ONE IN MY POCKET BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN I MAY NEED ONE SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT I HAVE THIS PROGRAM HAS NOW BEEN IN PLACE UH UH THE FIRST RECIPIENT OF THAT CHALLENGE COIN WAS NONE OTHER THAN OUR CHIEF UH OF POLICE CHIEF MOYA FOR HIS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT WHERE HE WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE FLORIDA TODAY AND THEN I'VE ALSO WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE ONE OF OUR STANDING UH EMPLOYEES KEELY AS WELL SO I'M I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BRINGING SOMETHING POSITIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY UH RECOGNIZING UH OUR EMPLOYEES AND RECOGNIZING OUR CITIZENS AND ENOUGH FOR NOTHING IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CITIZENRY AND THE THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THAT AND THIS IS WHAT I HOPE TO BRING IN IN THAT MESSAGE THIS IS WHAT I HOPE TO HAVE UH ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS DEFINITELY WILL BE CHIEF BATTEN FOR HIS COUNTLESS HOURS OF DEDICATION UH TO THIS CITY AS A CIVILIAN AND I I THERE'S NO NO OTHER CIVILIAN THAT HAS ACTUALLY UH PROVEN HIMSELF SO WORTHY AS HE HE'S COUNTLESS HOURS OF STUDYING THE ISSUES AND I'LL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL UM AS A RESIDENT BEFORE I BECAME AN ELECTED OFFICIAL I'VE WITNESSED HIS DESIRE TO SERVE[03:00:08]
THIS COMMUNITY AND HE SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED OR COMMENDED FOR THAT THAT IS ALL I HAD TO REPORT[NEW BUSINESS]
MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MS SMITH RESOLUTION 2021-03 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING REGIS RESOLUTION 2011-34 BY UPDATING THE CITY OF PALM BAY FUND BALANCE POLICY PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE MR SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR THIS IS A PROPOSED TWO PROPOSED SIGNIFICANT PRIMARY CHANGES TO OUR CURRENT RESOLUTION THAT ESTABLISHED THE CITY'S FUND BALANCE POLICY IT WAS LAST CHANGED IN 2011. UM HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH WITH ME TO EXPOUND ON THE ISSUES AS NEEDED AS UH OUR FINANCE DIRECTORY VON MCDONALD AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR PUBLIC RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUP WHICH IS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORY FIRM WHO DID HELP US ON THIS POLICY JUST TO BRIEFLY GO INTO THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A CHANGE TO OUR CURRENT MINIMUM UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE WHICH IS CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED AS 10 PERCENT OF THE SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGETED EXPENDITURES LESS CAPITAL OUTLAY AND TRANSFERS WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THAT INCREASES FROM 10 PERCENT TO 17 PERCENT WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDED A BEST PRACTICE FOR ESTABLISHING THOSE FUND BALANCE MINIMUMS THE SECOND PROPOSED CHANGE IS TO UM THERE IS IN THE CURRENTLY IN THE UM THE RESOLUTION IN THE POLICY THERE IS A WHAT'S CALLED A STABILIZATION RESERVE UM UH RECOMMENDATION WHICH STATES BASICALLY A COUNCIL MAY SET ASIDE BETWEEN FIVE TO SEVEN PERCENT OF THE FUND BALANCE AS ESSENTIALLY AN EMERGENCY RESERVE THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS TO TAKE THAT OUT AND REPLACE IT WITH THE FACT THAT WE WOULD NOT NOT A MAY ISSUE BUT WE WOULD ESTABLISH AN EMERGENCY FUND WITH A FUND BALANCE OF BETWEEN TWO AND THREE MILLION DOLLARS THOSE ARE THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS I'VE BRIEFED EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT THOSE ISSUES AND YOU KNOW STAFF IS HERE TO TALK THROUGH THOSE AND SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW ANY ANY CHANGES OR NO CHANGES COMPLETELY UP TO YOU ALSO THANK YOU THANK YOU ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM NO SIR AND LIKE A MOTION MAYOR I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO UH SO WE GET DISCUSSION STARTED BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SEGMENT FOR DISCUSSION YEAH MAYOR UM I APPRECIATE WHAT MISS SHERMAN AND STAFF HAS BROUGHT FORTH UH FOR US I THINK THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE IN OUR SAVINGS AND KEEPING OUR BALANCE FOR OUR LONG-TERM CREDIT HEALTH AND JUST OUR LONG-TERM FISCAL HEALTH BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH WITH EMERGENCIES AND PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE THE WHEN I REVIEWED IT AGAIN BECAUSE I HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR WITH MS SHERMAN AND AND UH AND IN PREVIOUS STAFF AS WELL ABOUT YOU KNOW LOOKING AT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF CHANGES WE CAN MAKE OR WHAT'S THE WHAT'S A HEALTHY WAY OF DOING IT I WAS THINKING 15 AT THE TIME I KNOW FURTHER STUDIES SHOWED THAT SEVEN OR THE TWO MONTHS WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 16.7 OR 17 PERCENT WAS A A YOU KNOW A HIGHER THRESHOLD THAT COULD BE OR SHOULD BE UH ACHIEVED I DID WANT COUNCIL TO CONSIDER UM AFTER I REVIEWED THE POLICY I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF UM THERE'S A LOT LIKE VERBIAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT I MEAN I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH ANY OF THAT STUFF BUT WHEN IT CAME TO THE FUND BALANCE WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT IF WE GO WE GO TO 17 PLUS TO TWO TO THREE MILLION YOU KNOW WE'RE IT'S A PRETTY I MEAN IT'S IT'S A GOOD GOAL BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE WE WOULD FALL BELOW THAT AND BECAUSE I THINK FALLING BELOW THAT WOULDN'T BE THE END OF THE WORLD EITHER SO WHAT I WANTED TO SUGGEST IS THAT INSTEAD OF WE HAVING A NOMINAL NUMBER THE TWO TO THREE MILLION WHICH WOULD BE UH FIXED NO NOMINAL WOULD NOT CHANGE LEAVING A PERCENTAGE IN THERE BUT CHANGING THAT FIVE TO SEVEN PERCENT TO A WE WILL DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE WE'VE THE POLICY SAYS THAT WE MAY DO IT AND IT JUST NEVER CAME UP OKAY UM IN THE PAST AND CERTAINLY WE ARE THERE TODAY TODAY WE WE WOULD MEET THAT WE JUST HAVE NOT OFFICIALLY SAID THIS IS OUR STABILIZATION STABILIZATION FUND UM I DON'T BELIEVE SO ANYHOW I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AND SO THAT WE WILL DO THAT SO IT CAN FLUCTUATE BETWEEN THAT FIVE TO SEVEN IT GIVES US A A BUFFER AND THEN CHANGE THE MINIMUM UNRESTRICTED FROM INSTEAD OF FROM 10 TO 17 BRING IT 10 TO 12. SO THOSE TWO COMBINED WILL PUT US IN THAT 17 TO 19 RANGE WHICH I THINK WOULD BE KEEP US IN A HEALTHY PLACE SO I AT LEAST WANTED TO OFFER THAT BECAUSE IT I THINK IT BRINGS FINANCIAL STABILITY[03:05:07]
WHILE ALSO OFFERING A BIT OF FLEXIBILITY SO THAT WE'RE NEVER ACCUSED OF BEING BELOW OUR POLICY UH IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE WE'D HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE AND AND IT WOULD GROW WITH TIME AS OUR BUDGET HAS GROWN WE WE'VE IN JUST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS MY MY FIRST FOURTH I THINK IS MY FIRST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS THERE WAS A 25 INCREASE IN GENERAL FUND I MEAN HUGE SO THEREFORE THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT SO I SO I LIKE THAT PERCENTAGE BETTER THAN THE NOMINAL NUMBER SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT IT'LL IT'LL OPEN US UP INSTEAD OF RESTRICTING US IF WE JUST GO OUT LIKE 17 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 12 IN THAT AND THEN JUST YEAH BECAUSE THEN THE 5 TO 7 AND THE WHETHER WE CONTINUE TO CALL IT STABILIZATION OR WE CALL IT EMERGENCY FUND THAT WOULD BRING IT UP TO THAT IT WOULD STILL BE IN THAT SAME FUND WE WOULD STILL BE MEETING THAT SAME POLICY OBJECTIVE OF HAVING IT THERE IT'S JUST THAT WE NOW WE'RE FREE TO SPEND SOME OF THAT WHENEVER THE HURRICANE HITS OR I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EMERGENCIES I KNOW AND RIGHT NOW SAYS THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER TO TO ASCERTAIN WHAT THE WHAT THE EMERGENCY WOULD BE UM KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT THAT ABILITY STILL TO GO AND MEET THOSE CHALLENGES AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT INCLUDES INFRASTRUCTURE IF WE HAD A PIPE COLLAPSE FOR INSTANCE OR GOD FORBID NO MALABAR ROAD CAVE'S END THAT WE CAN GO IN THERE QUICKLY AND HANDLE IT BUT THE OTHER THING AND I HAD POINTED OUT TO MRS SHERMAN I DON'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARILY THEIR INTENT BUT WHEN I READ IT YOU KNOW IT SAYS SILLY MANDARIN IN HER SOUL DISCRETION I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SAYING SHE CAN GO SPEND TWO HE OR HER CAN GO SPEND UM YOU KNOW TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS BUT DIDN'T TELL US LATER ABOUT IT UH OBVIOUSLY IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE FIXED NOW YOU FIX IT BUT UH I THINK THAT THE IDEA WOULD BE THERE IF WE WE HAD A HURRICANE YOU CAN BRING IT AND IT'S GOING TO COST US THAT MUCH TO DO SOMETHING IMMEDIATELY YOU CAN BRING US TOGETHER FOR A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING IN 24 HOURS AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS HER INTENT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BECAUSE OUR POLICY AND PROCUREMENT IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND RIGHT SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE CONSISTENT AS WELL BUT THAT BUT THAT'S MORE OF A UM THAT'S MORE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE TENT BUT AND I THINK THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN 10 WHAT I'M SUGGESTING MAYBE IS AN ALTERNATE UH WAY OF DOING THE POLICY EITHER BUT I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION I TOLD MR SHERMAN I WAS I DON'T THINK SHE WAS SO HIGHLY RESISTANT TO THAT SO MR SHERMAN MAY I ASK UH DO YOU FIND THAT THIS WILL THIS WILL BE LESS RESTRICTIVE AND AND STILL ACHIEVING OUR GOAL OF THOSE SET-ASIDES UH UM WELL I FIND THAT IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO IT SO PART OF OUR GOAL IN COMING INTO THIS JUST FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT WAS TO TO SHOW ANOTHER STEP TOWARD SETTING MORE MONEY ASIDE RIGHT TO HOLD THAT TO SHOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE BEING GOOD GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR FUND BALANCE THAT'S CURRENTLY UNASSIGNED SO RIGHT NOW ALL WE HAVE THAT IS A MANDATORY SET ASIDE IS THAT 10 NUMBER AND SO ANY ANY CHANGE YOU MAKE THAT GETS US ABOVE THAT I THINK SHOWS THAT WE ARE INCREASING OUR ATTENTION TO THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS HELD AND NOT SPENT ON THINGS OTHER THAN IN THE CASE OF YOU KNOW AS WE JUST DISCUSSED MAYBE EMERGENCIES THINGS LIKE THAT SO IF IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO A YOU KNOW AS COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS LAYING OUT A 10 TO 12 PERCENT FOR THE UH THE BASIC MINIMUM AND THEN INSTEAD OF A MAY STABILIZATION FUND A SHALL DO BETWEEN FIVE AND SEVEN PERCENT EITHER WAY THAT MOVES US INTO A INSTEAD OF A TEN PERCENT WE'RE BEING THE 15 TO 19 RANGE WHICH IS MORE THAN WHERE WE'VE BEEN NOW THE ONLY CAUTION I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO EACH OF YOU IS THE THE MORE WE PUT INTO THE BOX IT JUST IT HOLDS IT UM SO THAT'S THE THE FLIP SIDE IS YOU KNOW YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO PAINT YOURSELF TOO FAR INTO A CORNER WHERE YOU'VE LOCKED UP ALL YOUR YOUR MONEY AND YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR SOMETHING I THINK EMERGENCIES ARE THE BIGGEST THING YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO USE IT FOR ANYWAY AND IT'S JUST FOR THE RECORD AS WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ENDED 2020 JUST USING ROUND NUMBERS WE HAD ABOUT 17 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR UNASSIGNED GENERAL FUND RESERVES IF YOU WERE TO DO THE 17 PERCENT MINIMUM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WOULD RIGHT OFF OF THAT 17 TAKE 11 MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT OFF OF THAT IF YOU TOOK ANOTHER 3 MILLION FOR AN EMERGENCY FUND WHICH WAS YOU KNOW THE PROPOSAL THERE THAT WOULD REALLY ONLY LEAVE YOU WITH A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S THAT'S JUST THERE AND I SAY THAT JUST TO POINT OUT THAT OUR OUR FUND BALANCE WHILE IT'S ABSOLUTELY HEALTHIER THAN IT WAS UH YOU KNOW IN MORE RECENT YEARS WE'RE WE'RE MOVING IN A VERY GOOD DIRECTION FROM THAT STANDPOINT WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT IN A PLACE WHERE I WOULD SAY WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF RESERVES WE'RE DOING GREAT YOU KNOW DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT 17 IS SIMPLY TWO MONTHS WORTH OF OUR OPERATING COSTS IF SUDDENLY THERE WAS NO MONEY COMING IN AND WE JUST HAD TO COVER UM YOU KNOW OPERATIONS AND PERSONNEL AND THINGS SO THAT WAS A LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION I GUESS BUT ANYTHING THAT PUTS US IN A PLACE WHERE WE ARE SHOWING OUR OUR CITIZENS BUT ALSO SHOWING OUR AUDITORS SHOWING OUR THE FOLKS THAT LOOK AT OUR FINANCES WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE THE FITCH AND SMP RATING REVIEW SHOWING THEM THAT WE ARE UM WE CARE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE HOLDING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT I THINK ANY STEP IN THAT DIRECTION TO INCREASE THE 10 PERCENT IS POSITIVE THE REASON WE HIGHLIGHTED THAT 17 NUMBER WAS BECAUSE THAT IS[03:10:06]
THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICER'S UM RECOMMENDATION BUT AGAIN IT'S JUST A NUMBER SO SO WE CAN STILL GO WITH THE 12 AND THEN SHALL FIVE AND ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY TOO IS THIS IS A RESOLUTION SO YOU COULD YOU COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE TODAY AND YOU COULD CHANGE IT AGAIN TOMORROW KIND OF THING YOU KNOW SO YOU HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY BUILT IN COUNCIL ANY COUNCIL SHE ANSWERED MY QUESTION OKAY YEAH I WANTED I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING UM I'M MORE INCLINED TO GO WITH THE 17 PERCENT UM IT'S THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICER ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDATION THAT DID THE PROFESSIONALS IN THIS UM TWO MONTHS IN RESERVES IS TO ME TOO LOW BUT I'M WILLING TO LIVE WITH THAT UM I LIKE WHAT THE UH STAFF CAME UP WITH IT WAS 17 AND I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH THAT UM AND IT SAID A WILL WE SHOULD WE SHOULDN'T LOCK OURSELVES IN THE CORNER WITH THE WORD WILL UM I MEAN SHELL SHOULD BE MAY MAY I LIKE THAT MORE THAN SHELL OR WILL BECAUSE THEN YOU YOU PUT YOURSELF IN A IN A CORNER AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT SO UM I'M I'M FOR GOING WITH THE 17 PERCENT AND HAVING MORE HAVING THREE MILLION IN THE REGION THREE MILLION IN THE RESERVE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON UM I I SECONDED UM AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS GOING TO MENTION BUT I WAS I WAS FINE WITH IT AS IS BECAUSE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS UM FROM THE GFOA UM I'M LISTENING HERE I'M LOOKING TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF COUNCIL BUT I'M FINE WITH IT AS IS I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN BAE LOOK LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS BUT UM COUNCILMAN FOSTER KIND OF SAID IT BEST THE THESE ARE THE PROFESSIONALS AND THEY KNOW THE GUIDELINES SIMILAR TO LIKE WITH UM THE REMOVING OF PERMITS FOR SHEDS YOU KNOW WE LEANED ON THE PROFESSIONALS OF THAT ASSOCIATION FOR THAT SO I'M FINE WITH FOLLOWING THIS AS IS COUNCILMAN FELIX UM YEAH THAT WOULD BE THE CASE FOR ME AS WELL I MEAN I I WOULD BE LEANING TOWARDS UH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION UM BECAUSE THERE IS YOU KNOW STANDARD ALREADY UM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOU KNOW US BEING AT 10 WAS NOT AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF UH YOU KNOW GETTING US IN TROUBLE BUT EVERY TIME AS UH MR SHERMAN MENTIONED YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS INCREASING YOUR YOUR YOUR FUND YOU KNOW YOU'RE INCREASING THAT THAT THAT PERCENTAGE IT'S MAKING A STEP IN A GOOD UH RIGHT DIRECTION QUICK QUESTION TO COUNCILMAN BAILEY THOUGH UM YOU YOU AGREE TO YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IT'S IT'S REALLY ACHIEVING THE SAME THING JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT IN WHICH YEAH FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I IT'S IT'S THIS IS THIS WAS A READING THROUGH THIS IS YOU KNOW IT'S I GUESS I'M KIND OF EXPECTING YOU GUYS TO BE LIKE RIGHT THERE WITH ME AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT THAN THAT LET ME LET ME ADDRESS TWO LET ME ADDRESS ONE THING REAL QUICK I KNOW MR FOSTER'S WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MAY AND SHAO AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT MRS SHERMAN AND I AGREED THAT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE WAS WAS MAY AND IT WAS WE WEREN'T DOING IT WE WERE ELECTING NOT TO UH TIMES GOT TOUGH AT A POINT TIME AND THEN WE JUST NEVER GOT BACK AROUND TO IT WHICH IS YOU KNOW PART OF THAT WHOLE IDEA OF LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS ASKING ABOUT LIKE I WANTED THIS POLICY TO COME FORWARD AND FOR US TO IMPROVE IT THE RIGHT NOW IT SAYS MAY WE WANT TO CHANGE IT TO WILL UM THE LANGUAGE FOR THE TWO PIECES THAT WE'RE CHANGING ARE SHALL AND WILL IF I JUST I JUST CHECKED THEM REAL QUICK I THINK ONE SHALLOW AND ONE IS WILL WE SHALL HAVE THE 17 PERCENT I BELIEVE ARE TWO MONTHS 16.7 PERCENT I HATE SAYING 17. I DON'T KNOW SOME REASON I'M GOING TO BE MORE PRECISE BUT UH BUT WE WE WILL HAVE THOSE TWO MONTHS THAT'S A SHALL AND WE WILL HAVE THE TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S EXACT THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT I'M SAYING PROPOSE THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GOING IN THE SAME POT THEY'RE ALREADY IT'S ALREADY IN THE KITTY RIGHT AND IT'S ALREADY UNRESTRICTED RIGHT THIS SECOND WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO COVER EITHER POLICY CHANGE UM IT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW WE'RE DESCRIBING IT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE WHERE WE HAVE A FOUR MILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM WE HAVE TWO MILLION IN THE BANK FOR THE EMERGENCY FUND WHICH IS WE MADE WHICH IS WE WILL DO WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST TWO SO IF WE HAVE TWO IN THERE LET'S SAY AT SOME POINT AND WE HAVE A FOUR MILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TWO MILLION OUT AND IF WE'RE ONLY AT 17 PERCENT WE'RE GOING TO FALL BELOW IT AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOOKED UPON US AS THOUGH WELL LOOK THEY'RE GOING TO BELOW THEIR THEIR OWN MINIMUM[03:15:03]
THAT THEY SET FOR THEMSELVES THEY SAID THEY SHALL DO THIS AND THEY'RE NOT DOING IT THAT WAS MY CONCERN I DON'T KNOW THAT AND SO SO THE WAY THAT I'VE WRITTEN OUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE BETWEEN 17 19 2-3 MILLION TODAY I WAS JUST TRYING TO DO THE QUICK MATH ON IT I WANT TO SAY THAT'S AROUND THREE OR FOUR PERCENT SO THAT WOULD BE PUTS AROUND 20 21 SO I'D BE JUST SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN WHAT THAT IS OF COURSE WE COULD STILL DO A PERCENTAGE I LIKE THE PERCENTAGE BECAUSE PERCENTAGE GROWS WITH TIME AND COSTS GROW WITH TIME WE KNOW THAT INFLATION GROWS WITH TIME SO THEREFORE YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO REVIEW THIS NOTE THE END OF THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE GROWING WITH THE FUNDS SO AT THE BARE MINIMUM MAYBE THE PERCENTAGES AREN'T RIGHT BUT I STILL THINK THAT THAT THERE'S THERE'S SOME WISDOM IN AND HAVING AS A PERCENTAGE AS OPPOSED TO A FIXED NUMBER UH SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPED A LITTLE BIT IN CATCHING IT UP AND ALSO SOME OF THE NUANCE AS FAR AS THE LEGAL THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING AND THAT'S WHERE I SAY WELL I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT LIKE I SAID I DON'T WANT A POSITION WHERE WE WE HAVE TO EXCEED IT WE GO BELOW 17 WELL IF WE SAY THAT WE'RE WE HAVE 17 PERCENT THERE SET ASIDE BETWEEN EMERGENCY AND OUR MINIMUM UNRESTRICTED AND WE END UP USING SOME OF IT WE HAVE THAT CUSHION THOUGH IT'S FIVE TO SEVEN PERCENT WHICH IS GREATER THAN WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AN EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T VIOLATED OUR POLICY AND IT GROWS WITH TIME SO THOSE THAT'S I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE UM OH I'LL SHUT UP I KNOW I'M OVER EXPLAINING NOW SO SO NO NO I SEE THE LOGIC I MEAN IT MAKES SENSE I MEAN ESSENTIALLY WE MAY END UP MORE THAN 17 PLUS 3 MILLION SO AS IT GROWS WITH WITH YOUR LOGIC WE MAY END UP EXCEEDING THAT POSSIBLY WITH TIME SURE YEAH OKAY I MEAN THAT'S THAT ANSWER I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND I KNEW YOU WERE GOING SOMEWHERE WITH THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR AND I GUESS WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING TO ACHIEVE THE SAME THING WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SO YEAH I I GET IT AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL LISTEN WHAT I'M HEARING 17 IS IS GOOD UH FROM THE COUNCIL UH COUNCILMAN BAILEY IS UH REALLY MOTIVATED AND ENCOURAGED UH ABOUT EVEN GOING FURTHER IN THE FUTURE IF WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT THERE YET UM BUT RIGHT NOW EVERYONE HERE IS IN AGREEMENT THAT 17 SO IN AN EFFORT NOT TO MUDDY THE WATERS ANYMORE COUNCILMAN BAILEY UM YOU'RE YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE MOTION AS IS WELL NO WELL I WANTED US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BECAUSE IF WE HAVE WE SAY WE SHALL HAVE 17 AND WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY BIGGER THAN WHAT WE SET ASIDE FOR OUR EMERGENCY FUND AND WE DON'T HAVE EXCESS UNRESTRICTED WE WILL FALL BELOW OUR POLICY CAN I GET AN INCH I MEAN MAYBE MISS SHERMAN HELP ME OUT HERE SO IS LET ME RESTATE IT SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF WE UM IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BEYOND THE 17 PERCENT SET ASIDE BELOW THAT FOR EMERGENCIES OR FOR ANYTHING AND WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY YOU'D BE DIPPING INTO THE 17 CORRECT AND WE WOULD BE VIOLATING OUR POLICY SO IF WE ONLY HAVE TWO MILLION IN OUR EMERGENCY WE HAVE SOMETHING MORE THAN TWO MILLION MORE THAN THREE IF WE HAVE THREE AND SOMETHING MORE THAN THREE WOULD BE DIPPING BELOW OUR POLICY AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND THE SECOND THING BEING THAT LOOK FIVE YEARS FROM NOW TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS WILL NOT BE THE SAME PERCENTAGE IT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW MY THE POLICY AS I PROPOSE IT WHICH COULD BE I MEAN I WOULDN'T BE YOU KNOW MAYBE WE SHOULD GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER MAYBE IT SHOULD BE 15 AND THEN MAKE THE EMERGENCY A DIFFERENT NUMBER BUT I THINK HAVING THE EMERGENCY AS A PERCENTAGE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IS NOT THE SAME AS TODAY THE FUTURE VALUE OF THAT DOLLAR IS NOT THE SAME BUT IF WE MAKE IT A PERCENTAGE IT WILL GROW SO SO NO FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE LESS THAN MY POLICY THE POLICY THAT I'M PROPOSING BUT RIGHT NOW IT MIGHT BE RIGHT NOW MY MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY LESS BUT IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW MINE WOULD BE ACTUALLY MORE WITH THAT AND THEN FIVE FOR EMERGENCY IS THAT YES IT'D BE 17 TOTAL RIGHT AND THEY ARE SAYING FIVE TO SEVEN BECAUSE I GUESS I WAS SAYING FIVE TO SEVEN BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY IN THERE THAT WAY BUT THE PROBLEM IS WE DIDN'T HAVE IT AS A WE WILL DO IT WE HAD IT AS WE MAY DO IT WHICH IS A ISSUE THAT THEIR THAT THE STAFF'S POLICY ALSO ADDRESSES BY MAKING SURE IT'S A WILL AND A SHELL FOR THOSE TWO ISSUES SO SHE THEY ADDRESSED IT AS WELL I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT OKAY WE'VE GOT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WISH TO TO DIVE IN UH DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WERE YOU BEFORE UH COUNCIL OKAY I WAS SEE IF WE CAN GET THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO COME UP AND CHIME IN UM MISS MCDONALD SURE I SEE HER WILL'S TURNING TOO HER WHEEL'S TURNING SHE'S GOING SHE'S GONNA CORRECT ANYTHING I SAID WRONG OR MAYBE SHOULD BE AGREEMENT I DON'T KNOW WELCOME MISS MCDONALD THANK YOU BASICALLY UH I GUESS I WANT TO SAY IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MINIMUM FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENT[03:20:03]
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FOR US DOING 10 12 BUT THIS IS IT'S LESS THAN TWO MONTHS OF OPERATING SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THE FIVE FOR THE STABILIZATION YOU'RE SAYING OKAY WE STARTED AT FIVE PERCENT THAT MEANS RIGHT NOW AT UM USING UH 21'S NUMBERS WE'LL BE PUTTING IN OVER THREE MILLION AT THIS POINT FOR THE FOR THAT SO IT'S REALLY WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO UM BUT MOST SIT WE WE DID DO SURVEYS OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT CITIES MOST DO USUALLY DO ABOUT THOSE UH THOSE UH FGFA'S RECOMMENDED UH 17 MOST OF THEM DID SOME ARE HIGHER BUT HERE AGAIN LIKE I SAID IT DEPENDS ON THE CITY IT'S LIKE IT'S JUST LIKE EACH YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT THREE DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS EACH HAS THEIR OWN BUDGET AND STUFF SO BECAUSE ONE CITY CAN PUT AWAY MORE MEET THE GFOA'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE OTHER CITY CAN BUT SO BUT LIKE I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT LOOKING AT FIVE PERCENT FOR THAT STABILIZATION WE WILL BE LOOKING AT MORE THAN THREE MILLION RIGHT NOW SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AND THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT EVEN IF WE FAIL BELOW OUR MINIMUM REQUIRED THE POLICY ADDRESSES THAT WE HAVE WE CAN'T WE CAN SET A PROCESS IN PLACE TO BRING IT BACK UP TO THAT YOU CAN ALSO AT ANY POINT IN TIME COUNCIL CAN ELECT TO ACTUALLY LOWER YOUR MINIMUM FUND BALANCE IF WE GOT INTO A SITUATION OR THE ECONOMY ALMO TANKED AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT BY DOING IT NOW WHILE WE HAVE THE FUNDS IT STAYS THERE AND IT KIND OF TAKES AWAY A LOT OF EXCESS MONEY THAT'S SITTING THERE THERE'S THAT TEMPTATION THAT PEOPLE SAY IT'S THERE I LIKE TO SAY IT'S KIND OF LIKE HAVING THE JELLY BEANS IN THE JAR THE MORE JELLY BEANS YOU SEE THE MORE TEMPTATION IS TO KEEP GOING BACK THAT JELLY BEAN AND IT'S HARDER TO SAY NO TO THE PERSON ACTING TO GET THOSE JELLY BEANS OUT OF THE JAR SO THAT WAS WHY WE RECOMMENDED THE HIGHER UH MINIMUM REQUIRED FUND BALANCE AND LIKE I SAID THE STARTING OUT THE REASON FOR THE UH 3 MILLION WE HAD SET FOR THE MERCHANTS BECAUSE WE WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT IT COST US TO DO FOR LIKE THE SANITATION TILL WE GOT REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE THREE MILLION YOU COULD DO TO START OFF WITH TWO MILLION AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST A MATTER OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BUT BEING ON MORE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE MYSELF I LIKE THE IDEA THAT PUTTING THE MINIMUM FUND BALANCE A LITTLE HIGHER OKAY AND AND LET ME JUST REAL QUICK I UNDERSTAND THE FIVE TO SEVEN PERCENT THAT'S HIGHER AND THEN THE MINIMUM WITH THE MINIMUM FUND BALANCE BEING OR UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE BEING A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND IN TOTALITY I THINK THAT THE PROPOSAL I HAVE ON THE TABLE WOULD BE SLIGHTLY LESS BUT OVER TIME WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE BECAUSE THAT NOMINAL DOLLAR IS GOING TO LOSE VALUE WITH TIME UNLESS OF COURSE WE CAN HAVE A HUGE RECESSION AND THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS TOO BUT OF COURSE WE COULD ALSO SEE OUR EMERGENCY FUND REFLECT WITH THAT WITH A PERCENTAGE LET ME ASK THIS BECAUSE I I ONE THING THAT YOU YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND THAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT I GUESS TOLD MR SHERMAN AS SAYING BEFORE WE WE WANT TO PUT THAT MONEY ASIDE WE I DON'T WANT US TO BE TEMPTED TO SAY WE'VE GOT 27 MILLION DOLLARS SITTING HERE LET'S GO SPEND IT ALL WE ONLY NEED YOU KNOW 10 10 OF IT SO FOR OUR FUND BALANCE SO LET'S GO SPEND 10. YOU KNOW I ABSOLUTELY I MEAN THAT'S I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT UM BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS WHAT ABOUT THE EMERGENCY FUNDS FOR THESE OTHER PLACES BECAUSE BASICALLY I'M TRYING TO THAT EMERGENCY FUND DOES PUT EXTRA MONEY ASIDE IN THE UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE UM SO WHICH IS THE SAME AIM AS THE MINIMUM OR THAT'S IT'S WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE MINIMUM FUND BALANCE I MEAN IT'S THE SAME IT'S IN THE SAME WAY IT'S ALL BASICALLY YOU JUST BASICALLY TAKE IT ALL OUT OF ONE POT AND PUTTING IT IN SMALLER POTS I'M JUST LABELING IT DIFFERENTLY YEAH SO SO THE ONE PART I'M TRYING TO MAKE BIGGER FOR EMERGENCIES AND A LITTLE BIT SMALLER FOR THE MINIMUM UH HOW DO OTHER AGENTS DO OTHER AGENCIES HOW DO OTHER OTHER AGENCIES UM I KNOW WE DID THE REVIEW OF THE MINIMUM FUND BALANCE WHAT ABOUT THE EMERGENCY FUNDS AND LIKE I SAID HERE AGAIN IT WOULD PIN ROOF DID AN ANALYSIS A LOT OF IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND BECAUSE SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF DIG THROUGH IT TO TRY AND SOME CITIES HAVE IT BUT SOME ALSO SOME CITIES IF THEY HAVE A 25 MINIMUM FUND BALANCE THEY DON'T MAY NOT HAVE THOSE OTHER LITTLE POTS LIKE THAT SO HERE AGAIN IT ALL KEEPS COMING BACK TO BASICALLY WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO AND KNOWING WHAT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES ARE HOW WOULD LET ME MAKE THIS BRO SO I REALLY THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE IN THE EMERGENCY SIDE AND A LITTLE BIT LESS ON THE MINIMUM BUT OF COUNCILS YOU KNOW IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO YOU KNOW FEELS COMFORTABLE AT 17 OR TWO MONTHS I'M GOOD WITH THAT I DON'T I ULTIMATELY I WANT THAT THERE BECAUSE THE MER TO ME I SEE THAT EMERGENCY SET ASIDE I MEAN ARE HOW MANY HOW MANY HURRICANES DO WE REALLY HAVE WHERE WE HAVE TO HIT THOSE THINGS I MEAN OVER 10 YEARS MAYBE TWO THREE TIMES SO USUALLY I DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS THE PROBABLE WELL WELL THAT'S NOT A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE RIGHT[03:25:04]
NOW WELL THE BEST PARTICULAR FUTURE SOMETIMES IS HISTORY SO USUALLY THAT MONEY IS SITTING THERE HURRY KANE'S EITHER ANYTHING THAT COULD COME UP IT'S NOT JUST HURRICANES BUT LIKE THE PIPES AT THE THE CHAMBERS RIGHT NOW PERHAPS THAT COULD COME OUT OF THERE BUT THAT'S NOT A MILLION DOLLAR I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S NOT A THAT TYPE OF ITEM SO ANYHOW I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE YOU KNOW IT'D STILL BE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THAT MANNER HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT IF WE INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS WE HAD THE PERCENTAGE EQUIVALENT OF THAT SO THAT IT WOULD FLUCTUATE WITH OUR FUND BALANCE THAT WOULD BE FINE UH LIKE I SAY I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT RIGHT NOW FIVE MILLION BASED ON WHAT WE HAD ENDED 2021 WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN THE THREE MILLION WE'RE LOOKING AT OH YEAH WELL IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE 17 FOR THE MINIMUM UNRESTRICTED I CAN'T YOU COULDN'T DO MY FIVE TO SEVEN PERCENT THAT WOULD THAT'S WHY I HAD TO REDUCE THE NO IT'S GIVE AND TAKE BUT IF WE LEFT IT AT 17 AND THEN IF WE JUST CHANGE IT WOULDN'T BE FIVE TO SEVEN PERCENT ON THE EMERGENCY BUT IF WE BROUGHT IT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE MAYBE TWO TO THREE PERCENT TWO TO FOUR PERCENT THAT WOULD BE MORE CONSERVATIVE AND STILL ACHIEVE THE GOAL AT LEAST I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT IF COUNCIL'S HAPPY WITH THAT AT LEAST THAT WAY I SEE IT CHANGES WITH TIME ARE YOU STILL SAYING 10 TO 12 FOR THE MINIMUM NOW WE WILL GO IF WE GO WITH THE TWO MONTHS OKAY FOR THE MINIMUM BUT THEN WE BUT WE JUST ADJUSTED TWO TO THREE FROM A NOMINAL NUMBER TO A PERCENTAGE IS WHAT I'M ASKING ESSENTIALLY I THINK IS THAT IS THAT WITHOUT NO ISSUES THERE I I CAN SEE THAT WORKING WHERE WE'RE AT YEAH YEAH OKAY THE OTHER THING I WAS JUST GOING TO THROW OUT NOT TO THROW A WRENCH IN THE WHOLE CONVERSATION HERE BUT YOU KNOW FROM A WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY MOMENT IN TIME I THINK FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT WE'D BE VERY HAPPY WITH JUST THE 17 MOVING FORWARD IF YOU WANTED TO REVISIT THIS LIKE SAY WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE AT AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR IF THINGS GO ACCORDING TO PLAN WE SHOULD HAVE YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THERE WE CERTAINLY REVISIT IT IN THE FUTURE UM BUT IF WE CAN GET TO CONSENSUS TONIGHT I THINK YOU KNOW WE'RE STILL IN A PLACE WHERE WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT 17 AND YOU KNOW TWO TO THREE PERCENT FOR EMERGENCIES IS NOT UM UNATTAINABLE AND IT IS REASONABLE BASED ON OUR CURRENT SITUATION SO THANK YOU MA'AM COUNCILMAN FOSTER I'D LIKE TO ASK THE FINANCIAL DIRECTOR UM WOULD THIS AFFECT OUR RATING OUR CREDIT RATING UH NO AS LONG AS WE STAY RIGHT NOW AS YOU KNOW WE JUST HAVE CREDIT RATINGS DONE FOR THE BOND ISSUE RIGHT WE HAVE THAT MINIMUM 10 OF COURSE THEY LOOK AT WHAT WE WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE UNDERSTANDING WELL YOU WAY ABOVE IT BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT WE REALLY SET A LOW BAR FOR OURSELVES THAT 10 WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2004 WHEN WE HAD THE CITY MANAGER THE UM FUND BALANCE POLICY WAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND IT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME IN 2004 SO WE HAVE NOT CHANGED OUR MINIMUM FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENT IN 17 YEARS BUT HOW HOW IS OUR CREDIT RATING RIGHT NOW THE BOND RATINGS I THINK WAS DOUBLE A AND DOUBLE A OR TRIPLE A AND A PLUS DOUBLE A OKAY SO BY GOING TO THE 17 PERCENT LIKE YOU RECOMMEND UM WOULD THAT AFFECT OUR CREDIT RATING WILL WE MAINTAIN THAT DOUBLE A OR LOWER OR INCREASE IT OR WHAT AS LONG AS WE MEET WHAT WE SAID I I WILL KIND OF ASK MOLLY WHO IS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR ALSO FOR THE BOND SO SHE'D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT FOR ME OKAY THE RATING AGENCY IS MOLLY CLARK I'M WITH PUBLIC RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUPS FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY THE RATING AGENCIES ARE AWARE THAT THE CITY'S EXISTING POLICY REQUIRES A 10 UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE THE CITY'S PRACTICE YOU ARE EXCEEDING THAT AND THE RATING AGENCIES ARE GIVING CREDIT TO THE CITY FOR PRACTICES THAT ARE ACTUALLY MORE RIGOROUS THAN REQUIRED BY THE POLICIES BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT ADOPTING A MORE RIGOROUS POLICY WILL SHOW A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO MAINTAINING THOSE MORE RIGOROUS PRACTICES AND ULTIMATELY WE CAN'T SAY WHETHER THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD PROMPT AN UPGRADE YOU THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT GO INTO YOUR INVESTMENT RATING BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE VIEWED AS A CREDIT POSITIVE ACTION RIGHT IT WON'T LOWER IT BUT BUT WE'LL BE MEETING A STANDARD ACROSS THE COUNTRY IF WE GO WITH THE UM THE GOVERNMENT UM ACCOUNTING STANDARD BOARD RIGHT YEAH ABSOLUTELY I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS ON IF YOU THE RATING AGENCIES WOULD BE PLEASED TO SEE THE CITY ADOPTING A POLICY WHICH IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THOSE POLICIES UM UH RECOMMENDED BY THE GFOA EXACTLY AND THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE UH COUNCIL UH WE SHOULD GO WITH A STANDARD[03:30:06]
UM THAT IS PROVEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IT WILL MAINTAIN OUR CREDIT RATING AND WE'LL BE UM IN A GOOD FINANCIAL UH GOING FORWARD SO THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THANK YOU UM COUNCILMAN FOSTER I BELIEVE WHEN SHE SAID A MORE VIGOROUS APPLICATION UH YOU KNOW OVER TIME UH SO COUNCILMAN BAILEY'S UH APPROACH IS JUST THAT A BIT MORE VIGOROUS GO ON YEAH AND AND I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I I KNOW MISS UH MCDONALD JUST UH SPOKEN ATTORNEY THE IDEA OF HAVING A PERCENTAGE AS OPPOSED TO THE NOMINAL NUMBERS DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE ON THAT IS THAT HOW'S THAT HOW DOES THAT LOOK CONSIDERING SITTING IN THE SAME YOU KNOW POT OF MONEY I THINK IT IS RECOGNIZED THAT IT'S ALL ULTIMATELY GOING INTO THE SAME POT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE THE STATED UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE FOLLOW THE GFOA GUIDANCE WITH THE TWO MONTHS OR 16 AND TWO-THIRDS PERCENT AND THEN WHETHER THE ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY FUND IS A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR A PERCENTAGE AMOUNT I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST ADDED FINANCIAL STABILITY ON TOP OF THE TWO MONTHS AND I THINK EITHER WAY THAT WOULD BE VIEWED FAVORABLY OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU AND I'M HAPPY WITH THAT I MEAN ULTIMATELY I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WANT US TO BE ACCUSED OF GOING BELOW OUR FUND BALANCE AND I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S HARDER TO DRAW THINGS BACK THAN TO ADD IN THE FUTURE SO IF WE HAVE 17 WE HAVE TO GET TO THAT POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO GO TO 15 OR LOWER IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR THAT COUNCIL I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THIS COUNCIL I HOPE NOT BUT I'M ALWAYS THINKING LONG TERM WHENEVER I THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS TOO BUT I I'M I'VE I'VE SEEN IT THE WHOLE POINT JUST SO YOU KNOW FOR COUNCILMAN UH MAYOR FOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND I I WILL SEE THE 17 I WANT THAT SET I WANT AT LEAST 17 SET PERCENT SET ASIDE AND RESTRICTED EITHER WAY BUT MAYBE IF WE DO THAT PERCENTAGE UM LIKE I SAID NO TWO TO FOUR PERCENT UH INSTEAD OF A TWO TO THREE MILLION MAKE IT TWO TO FOUR PERCENT AND THEN UM AND NOW I'D BE HAPPY MOVING FORWARD AND WE CAN REVIEW IT IN THE FUTURE IF EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH IT TONIGHT WELL THE THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT UH EMERGENCY FUND YOU GOTTA HAVE I MEAN TWO PERCENT MIGHT NOT GET US TWO MONTHS IT MIGHT GET US A MONTH OR HALF A MONTH I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW I'M NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THE CITY BUT WE NEED TO AT LEAST GET TWO MONTHS OF OPERATING FUNDS FOR EMERGENCY WE DO LIVE IN FLORIDA WE'RE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WITH THE ECONOMY SO I WANT TO WANT THE CITY TO BE OPERATE CAN OPERATE TWO MONTHS AND IF WE ENTER CRISIS WE KNOW WE'RE GOOD FOR TWO MONTHS AND WE NEED TO WORK IT OUT SO THAT'S THAT'S MY MINIMUM WE GOTTA WE GOT TO HAVE ENOUGH I WOULD LIKE THREE MONTHS TO TELL YOU OF SIX MONTHS UH BE HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO EVER BE IN A FINANCIAL CRISIS IN THIS CITY SO AND I WANT UH SO BUT I COULD LIVE WITH TWO MONTHS OF RESERVE FOR EMERGENCY THANK YOU AND JUST TO ALSO CLARIFY ON THAT THE POLICY IS AT THE MINIMUM FUND BALANCE WOULD BE TWO MONTHS IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU FROM HAVING A LARGER FUND BALANCE THAN THAT OKAY THANK YOU I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN THE CITY'S PRACTICE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OR FEW YEARS IS IS IT IN EXCESS OF 16 AND TWO-THIRDS PERCENT YEAH AND TO BE CLEAR REAL QUICK IF WE HAVE TWO MONTHS OF EMERGENCY THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER 17 ON TOP OF I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WHAT MR FOSTER WAS INTENDING BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CLARIFICATION MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE WE'RE TALKING THE SAME THING BECAUSE 17 IS MINIMUM UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE THEN WE HAVE EMERGENCY IF THE EMERGENCY WAS TWO MONTHS THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER 17 WHICH IS FAR MORE THAN TWO TO THREE MILLION AND FAR MORE THAN WHAT I'M PROPOSING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THAT IS THERE ANYONE IN ON IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST OR SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SEEING NONE I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION YEAH I HAVE A MOTION IF I MAY I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO CHANGE THE EMERGENCY FROM TWO TO THREE MILLION TO TWO TO FOUR PERCENT I'LL SECOND OKAY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION UM I SECOND IT BECAUSE LIKE MS SUZANNE SAID WE CAN WE CAN CHANGE THIS BACK CORRECT YOU KNOW UM DOWN THE LINE SO WE'LL WE'LL SEE HOW IT LOOKS THIS YEAR MAYBE NEXT YEAR UM BUT WE'RE WE'RE STICKING WITH THE GF GFOA'S RECOMMENDATION I'M[03:35:05]
FINE WITH I'M GOOD ON THAT AND I'M HEARING FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR AND UM UM I FORGOT HER NAME AND AND THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THE TWO TO FOUR PERCENT AS WELL SO THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT I'M OKAY WITH IT I'M GOOD ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I SEE OKAY SO I'M CALLING IT TO A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR MAYOR I'M SORRY I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING UM SO THE LANGUAGE CURRENTLY IN THE RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION ON THE USE OF EMERGENCY FUND PROCUREMENT I JUST LIKE TO PROBABLY ADD A LITTLE LANGUAGE CHANGE IN THERE THAT SAYS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE UM SO THE SPECIFIC SENTENCE IS IN THE RESOLUTION UNDER SECTION FIVE THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL SENTENCE THAT SAYS THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS OR HER SOLE DISCRETION WILL DETERMINE QUALIFIED USES OF THE FUNDS HELD IN THE EMERGENCY CONTINGENCY FUND ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND ADDING IN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD JUST DEFER BACK TO THE ORDINANCE AND THAT IS ALL THE THRESHOLD OF EMERGENCY EXPEND EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD HAVE UP TO THE HUNDRED THOUSAND UM BEYOND THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD COME TO COUNCIL ANYWAY SO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION YEAH I'LL MAKE ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO INCLUDE ADDING UM CHANGING THE SENTENCE ON PAGE SECTION SECTION FIVE THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH WHERE IT STATES THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS OR HER SOLE DISCRETION WILL DETERMINE QUALIFIED USES OF THE FUNDS HELD IN THE EMERGENCY CONTINGENCY FUND ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND SUBJECT TO THE PROCUREMENT MANUAL SECOND ACTUALLY WHERE'S JULIET SHOULD I SAY ORDINANCE ORDINANCE NOT MANUAL SORRY OKAY YES CAN WE JUST BRING IT BACK NEXT MEETING OKAY THIS IS AS FAR AS IF WE HAVE AT HIS OR HER SOLE DISCRETION AND THEN WE LATER ON HAVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE IT SEEMS TO BE INTERNALLY CONFLICTING OKAY I WOULD PREFER IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS WE JUST TAKE OUT AT IN HIS OR HER SOLE DISCRETION AND PUT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE THAT'S GOOD WITH THAT I MEAN I THINK IDEALLY IN THE END YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT BEFORE COUNCIL IF IT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND ANYWAYS AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR IT IN THE END EVEN THOUGH IT'S YOUR DISCRETION OF WHAT IS EMERGENCY AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING OKAY SO THAT'S FINE SO I I WILL I WILL STRIKE THAT SENTENCE TO SAY THE CITY MANAGER WILL DETERMINE QUALIFIED USES OF THE FUNDS HELD IN THE EMERGENCY CONTINGENCY FUND ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS SUBJECT TO THE PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE OKAY SECOND AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS ALL IN FAVOR MISS SMITH ITEM NUMBER TWO RESOLUTION 2021-04 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA SUPPLEMENTING RESOLUTION 2018-63 AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF NOT EXCEEDING 50 MILLION DOLLARS IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF CITY OF PALM BAY FLORIDA GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2021 IN ORDER TO FINANCE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS MAKING CERTAIN OTHER COVENANTS AND AGREEMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS PROVIDING CERTAIN TERMS AND DETAILS OF SUCH BONDS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY UPON OF THE CITY TO PUBLISH A SUMMARY NOTICE OF SALE AND RECEIVE BIDS PURSUANT TO A COMPETITIVE SALE OF SET BONDS AND AWARD THE SALES SET BONDS TO THE RESPONSIBLE RESPONSIVE BIDDER OR BIDDERS OFFERING THE LOWEST TRUE INTEREST COST TO THE CITY WHICH SHALL NOT EXCEED FIVE PERCENT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF SET BONDS APPOINTING THE PAYING AGENT AND REGISTER WITH RESPECT TO SET BONDS APPROVING THE PREPARATION AND USE OF A SUMMARY NOTICE OF SALE AN OFFICIAL NOTICE OF SEAL A PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT AND FINAL OFFICIAL STATEMENT AUTHORIZING THE ELECTRONIC DISSEMINATION OF THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT AND OFFICIAL STATEMENT AUTHORIZING EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF A CONTINUING DISCLOSURE CERTIFICATE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE STATE MS SHERMAN YES THANK YOU MAYOR THIS IS THE RESOLUTION TO UM BASICALLY TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND DRAW AN ADDITIONAL 15 MILLION 50 MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE 150 MILLION DOLLAR ROAD BOND TO ISSUE THOSE BONDS TO FUND CONTINUE TO FUND THE ROAD PROGRAM[03:40:03]
SO WE'VE UM WITH THE THE FIRST DRAW OF 50 MILLION WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY COVERED THE YEAR ONE AND YEAR TWO PROGRAM WE ANTICIPATE LATER THIS THIS CALENDAR YEAR UH SOMETIME AROUND SEPTEMBER 2021 THAT WE WOULD BE OUT OF MONEY WITH THE CURRENT PROJECTS IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURES OR THEREABOUTS AND WE WOULD THEN BE LOOKING TO UM TO GET THE FUNDING TO START THE THE YEAR THREE AND BEYOND UM THE TIMING ON DOING THIS PROCESS THERE'S A LITTLE BIT INVOLVED IT TAKES SOME MONTHS TO FOLLOW THROUGH SO WE'RE STARTING THIS NOW UM BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS WE WE FOUND WE STARTED AROUND JANUARY AND WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET THE FUNDING UNTIL A MAY JUNE TIME FRAME THAT TIMING IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROCESS STARTED THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR UM OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING THERE TO GO OUT TO BID ON AS WE AS WE DESIGN THE NEXT PROJECTS WE WOULD HAVE TO HOLD ON PUTTING THOSE OUT TO BID SO ALL THAT BEING SAID THIS IS THE THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM AND IT IS THE REQUEST TO TAKE OUT THE NEXT SERIES OF BONDS TO FUND IT AND THE TEAM IS HERE AGAIN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OH BILL BATTEN BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST YOU EXPLAINED WHAT I WAS WONDERING WHY WE ARE WHY WE'RE DRAWING THIS NOW AND MY ONE CONCERN WAS JUDGING BY THE HISTORY OF THE PAST TWO YEAR TWO SEASON I'M NOT GOING TO SAY YEARS I'M GOING TO DO PHASES WHERE WHILE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN STAYING UNDER BUDGET WHICH I THINK IS GREAT THAT'S A LOT LESS THAN WE'VE EVER ANTICIPATED ON THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE SOMEBODY BACK THERE GETS RECOGNITION FOR THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO HIS NAME IS BUT BUT MY CONCERN WITH THIS WAS JUST JUST IN CASE SOMETHING BAD DID HAPPEN AND THINGS STARTED GOING OVER COST ON PHASE THREE THAT YOU COULD COULD YOU DRAW MORE IF YOU HAD TO I'M HOPING YOU NEVER HAVE TO BUT BY THIS BY THIS WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DRAW MORE IF IT CAME DOWN TO THAT SITUATION THANK YOU THANK YOU MR SHERMAN UH YEAH SO THE THE AUTHORITY THAT THE UM THE VOTERS GAVE US WAS UP TO 150 MILLION DOLLARS SO WE WOULD DO ANOTHER ISSUANCE OF BONDS IF WE NEEDED MORE FUNDING WE'VE DONE IT IN THESE 50 MILLION DOLLAR INCREMENTS BECAUSE IT MADE SENSE WITH UH THE PLANNING OF THE PROGRAM SO WE WOULD DO THAT UP TO THE MAXIMUM AUTHORITY GIVEN BY THE VOTERS THANK YOU ANY OTHER CARDS COUNSEL WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE MAKE A MOTION ALL RIGHT OH SORRY UH MOTION APPROVED UH RESOLUTION 2021-04 SECOND WHO SECONDED SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY ALL IN FAVOR AYE ANY OPPOSE PASS IS UNANIMOUS SMITH ITEM NUMBER THREE ORTNOS 2021-03 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA ADMITTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A CONSISTING OF 11 PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING RATIFYING CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE MS SHERMAN UH THANK YOU MAYOR THIS IS THE FIRST UH QUARTERLY BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR UM AS AS YOU'VE SEEN IN PRIOR BUDGET AMENDMENTS THERE IS A REFERENCE IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE CHANGES TO REVENUES OR EXPENDITURES THERE'S A REFERENCE TO A DATE WHERE THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL I KNOW IT'S ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE PAGES SO YOU KNOW HAPPY ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL NO ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS ALL RIGHT WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE COUNCIL MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE 2021-03 FIRST READING SECOND IS THERE A SECOND YES SECOND OKAY UH COUNCILMAN FOSTER SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION NO I JUST I JUST[03:45:02]
WANT TO REALLY QUICKLY UH MAYOR IF I MAY YES SIR I JUST COULD COME IN I I KNOW THAT IT WAS STARTED KNOW SOME TIME BUT I I'M GLAD THAT I THINK OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION STAYED ON TOP OF MAKING SURE THESE LARGE ITEMS COME BEFORE US FOR AUTHORIZATION PRIOR TO WE GET HERE UM SO THAT WE'RE NOT BLINDSIDED BY ANYTHING BIG SO I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF AND ENCOURAGE THAT THAT TO CONTINUE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING SEEING NONE UH THIS IS UM I'M CALLING THE QUESTION CALLING THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR AYE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY LISTEN AT THIS TIME COUNCIL I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS THANK YOU I COULD HAVE WAITED A LITTLE LONGER[03:52:07]
I LOVE I LOVE THE LINES OF COMMUNICATIONS I LOVE THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THIS IS TRY TO DO IT BY TEN NEXT TIME LET'S MEET HIM BACK TO WATER OH MIKE MAYOR MIKE YEAH I'M CALLING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN NEW BUSINESS MS SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR THIS ITEM AND THE SUBSEQUENT THREE ITEMS ARE ALL PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT UM THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS A REQUEST TO UM YOU'LL RECALL IN PRIOR UH COUNCIL MEETINGS I'VE DISCUSSED WITH YOU THE ADDITIONAL STATE SHARED REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVED AND ACTUALLY ARE RECORDING AS PART OF REVENUE UNDER THE FIRST QUARTER BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED SO ANOTHER PORTION USE OF THAT FUNDING THAT I'M PROPOSING HERE IS THE USE OF TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO INCREASE THE MOWING OF OUR COLLECTOR SOME OF OUR MAJOR COLLECTOR ROADS AND TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCY SO THEY'D BE MOWED TWICE A MONTH AS WELL AS TO OUTSOURCE THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION[03:55:08]
THE CURRENT STAFF THAT ARE MOWING THOSE ROADS AND MANY OTHERS IN THE CITY WOULD UM WOULD MOVE WOULD CONTINUE TO MOW AND SO THEY WOULD WE WOULD JUST EXPAND THE ABILITY AND CAPACITY FOR THE CITY TO COVER UH SOME OF THE UH THE ROADWAYS THAT NEED A GREATER LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE AND I'LL BRING FRANK WATANABE UP TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL UM IT'S UP TO HIM WITH MS SHERMAN I KNOW I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING YOU KNOW I DID THE NUMBERS REAL QUICK ON THIS YOU KNOW SIX THIS IS GOING FULL TIME FOUR TIMES AS MUCH AS WE WOULD WITH PART TIME WHICH MEANS THAT WE COULD ADD ANOTHER PART TIME AND BE HALF THE COST AND ACTUALLY HAVE MORE MAN HOURS ALLOCATED AND BUILD REDUNDANCY WAS MY KIND OF THOUGHTS BUT I UNDERSTAND I DID ASK THAT QUESTION THERE WAS KIND OF A STAFF COUNTER DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MAYBE PRESENT AND TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT UH AGAIN FRANK NABY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND THE CITY ENGINEER I BELIEVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UH THE FULL-TIME TO PART-TIME POSITION OH I'M SORRY I AM AHEAD OF MYSELF I APOLOGIZE I'M SORRY YEAH I APOLOGIZE I WAS AHEAD OF MYSELF I DID HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE BUT IT WAS IT WAS SEPARATE IT WAS A REVIEW OF THE UH THE UH MOWING I APOLOGIZE BALANCE WITH THE BREAK I THINK SO WE'RE GOOD YEAH YEAH I'M GOOD FOR NOW I'M SORRY YEAH THIS ISN'T MY APOLOGY ANY OTHER ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE CONTRACTING FOR THE ANNUAL LAWN MAINTENANCE SERVICES IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SECOND SECOND SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION YEAH I JUST I DID JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS I HAD WAS THAT NO THERE'S CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR WHERE TWICE A MONTH IS NOT ALWAYS NECESSARY TO TO REALLY BE AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE NEED AND SO THAT WE CONSIDER THAT IN THOSE TIMES THAT YOU KNOW MAYBE THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE ONCE A MONTH BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE STAFF ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR HI ITEM NUMBER FIVE MRS SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR SINCE FRANK'S HERE I'LL DEFER TO HIM AND LET HIM EXPLAIN OUR REORG THAT BRINGS IN A NEW OPERATIONS MANAGER POSITION THANK YOU FRANK NOW THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND THE CITY ENGINEER UH BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS UH WE'VE REORGANIZED THE PUBLIC WORKS AND FOCUSING MORE ON OUR OPERATIONS OUR OPERATIONS IS THE LARGEST GROUP OF PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES WE HAVE AND THEY'RE MAINLY OUT IN THE FIELDS TAKING CARE OF ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND SO WE'VE REARRANGED THE ORGANIZATION TO HAVE IT MORE SPLIT THAT KIND OF MIRRORS WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE ROADS AND PIPES IT'S REAL CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE MORE IN-HOUSE PIPING WORK AS THE ROAD PAVING MOVES FORWARD BECAUSE THE THE STORMWATER MONEY IS GOING TO START SHRINKING TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S MORE COST EXPECTED TO HAVE IN-HOUSE EMPLOYEES DOING THE PIPE INSTALLATION AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THIS LAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN SAVING UH A GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE MONEY IN THE STORMWATER FUNDS WHICH KEEPS DECLINING WITH THAT SENSE WE NEED TO FOCUS THEN TO HAVE AN OPERATIONS MANAGER TO MANAGE THAT ONE GROUP OF BOTH THE PAVING THE PIPING AND THAT ONE ORGANIZATION THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER OPERATIONS MANAGER THAT JUST TAKES CARE OF THE MOWING AND ANY OTHER LIQUID STATE CANALS CUTBACKS AND THAT TYPE OF OPERATION SO THOSE ARE THE TWO WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AND MAINTAIN AND TO DO THAT I LIKE TO HAVE A HANDS-ON MANAGER HANDLING THE PIPES IN THE PAVING CURRENTLY NOW MAJORITY OF I DO AS MUCH AS I CAN BUT IT'S BEEN TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A TOLL ON ME SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A DIVISION MANAGER THERE TO BE OUT IN THE FIELD TAKING CARE OF IT ON A HANDS-ON BASIS AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL ANY SPEAKER CARDS NO SIR DEPUTY MAYOR WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE COUNCIL MAKE IT MO I MAKE A MOTION I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR MYSELF I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSIDERATION OF UTILIZING UNALLOCATED FUNDS FOR AN OPERATIONS MANAGER AND PURCHASE OF A VEHICLE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM FIVE MISS SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR I'LL DEFER TO FRANK FRANK JUST HAVE A SEAT RIGHT THERE YEAH YOU GOT IT UH FRANK NOW THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER THIS PERSON ACTUALLY IS DEALING WITH WHAT WE HAVE WITH ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WE HAVE ALL THIS GROWTH RIGHT NOW AND ALL THIS PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WE ALSO DO THE DRIVEWAY PERMITS UH IN TERMS OF FOR THE NEW HOME SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND AS WELL AS FOR RESIDENTIAL HOMES WITH THE SUDDEN INCREASE BOTH IN THE[04:00:05]
BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT WE'RE SEEING THE STRESS RIGHT NOW WITHIN OUR PERMITTING UH PROCESS WE ONLY HAVE TWO STAFF PERSONS DOING THE PERMITTING FOR EXAMPLE THE TYPICAL LAST YEAR WE'RE PUSHING IN ABOUT 70 PERMIT REVIEWS A MONTH CURRENTLY NOW WE'RE LIKE AND SO WE'RE PUSHING IT TO THE LIMITS SO IT'S IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STAFF RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW TO COVER OURSELVES TO USE SOME OUTSOURCING USING CONSULTANT SERVICES BUT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE IN-HOUSE PERSON THERE JUST TO BE THERE WE DON'T SEE A DECLINE IN THIS RIGHT NOW FOR THE LONG TERM SO WE WERE TESTING FOR AN ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON THANK YOU FRANK COUNCIL MOTION APPROVED UTILIZATION OF UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE FOR AN ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN TO IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AGAIN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR AYE AYE AYE ANYONE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER SEVEN MRS SHERMAN OR FRANK THANK YOU ALL RIGHT UH UH AGAIN FRANK WHAT NOBODY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CITY ENGINEER UH I BELIEVE THE QUESTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER BAILEY WAS REGARDING THE THE PART TIME TO THE FULL TIME UH AND WE UH IN THE OVERALL SENSE I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT OVERALL BE A LOT MORE COST AFFORDABLE TO HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON BECAUSE MAINLY IT'S THE ISSUE IS WHEN YOU START ADDING ON THE THE BENEFITS AND ALL THOSE FACTORS INCREASES THAT COST WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS JUST LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE OTHER POSITIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE CONTINUITY TO HAVE THAT PERSON THERE FULL-TIME PROVIDE THAT YOU KNOW ON STAFF FIVE DAYS A WEEK INSTEAD OF HAVING A SHIFTING OF TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE SHIFTING OF TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE SOMETIMES THE TRAINING ADDS MORE BURDEN ON TO THE CURRENT STAFF WE MAY NOT HAVE CONTINUITY WITH THE TWO PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE HOURS AND SHIFTING WE FEEL STRONGER THAT WE'D HAVE THE ONE FULL-TIME PERSON THERE TO HELP DO THE DATA ENTRY AND THE DATA ENTRY PERSON HERE IS A MIXTURE OF ALL THE COMPONENTS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT'LL HANDLE SOME OF THE PERMITTING ASSISTANCE THEY'LL HAVE TO HELP OUT IN SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES WE HAVE AND COORDINATING THEIR SAFETY COORDINATE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE WHEN WE HAVE CERTAIN ISSUES OF EMERGENCIES IT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR SUPPLIES AND ALL THE OTHER FACTORS THAT TIES IN BOTH WITH ENGINEERING THAT DEALS WITH THE ROADS AND PAVING IT DEALS WITH PERMITTING THAT DEALS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL ISSUES SO THIS PERSON IS A IS A HANDS-ON FOR ALL THESE COMPONENTS UH AND WE SEE IT AS MORE OF A FULL-TIME PERSON HERE THAN TWO PART-TIME PERSONS ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL NO HE MR WATSONAMI WAS ADDRESSING MY MY STATEMENTS ABOUT NO LIKE I SAID OR MY QUESTION REGARDING WE HAVE ANOTHER PART-TIMER FOR ANOTHER 15 000 INSTEAD OF 45 MORE FOR THE ANNUAL BUT I MEAN THEY'VE GIVEN A RESPONSE TO THAT ANY PUBLIC CARDS THOSE PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS OKAY COUNCIL I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION APPROVED UH POSITION CHANGE FROM PUBLIC WORKS DATA ENTRY CLERK PART-TIME TO DATA ENTRY CLERK FULL-TIME WITH THE UTILIZATION OF A GENERAL FUND UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE SECOND I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR ALL RIGHT WAS THERE A DISCUSSION UH YEAH MAYOR I WAS JUST I WAS JUST GOING WE HADN'T ALREADY WELL WE HADN'T HAD AN EMOTIONAL DISCUSSION YEAH I JUST ASKED A QUESTION PREVIOUSLY I APOLOGIZE UM DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GOING TO GO QUITE THAT FAST BUT THE I DID I DID JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT THERE WAS A 30 000 MORE TO HAVE A ADDITIONAL PART-TIME PERSON RATHER THAN HAVE A YOU KNOW 15 000 THE DIFFERENCE IN TOTAL IS GONNA BE THIRTY THOUSAND WE COULD ADD ANOTHER FIFTEEN UM THOUSAND DOLLAR PART-TIME PERSON DOING THE SAME THING FOR ANOTHER 25 HOURS INSTEAD OF ANOTHER 15 HOURS SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'RE GETTING 15 HOURS BUT IT'S QUITE COSTLY I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY AND SOME SOME ISSUES AS FAR AS SPACING AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I'M STILL A LITTLE I HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS I WILL SUPPORT IT AND GO WITH WHAT STAFF IS EXPLAINING I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY WITH MORE WITH LARGER ROLES THAN A PART-TIME THAN TWO PART-TIME PEOPLE WOULD HOLD BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM TO HOLD THAT CONTINUITY OVER 40-HOUR WORKWEEK AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT BUT UM I DID AT LEAST WANT TO EXPRESS MY RESERVATIONS THAT THIS IS QUITE COSTLY GOING UP HERE AND THAT WE CONSIDER THESE TYPE OF THINGS AND NO WHENEVER WE FINANCIALLY LOOK AT THEM IN THE FUTURE WELL THERE'S A LOT OF INTANGIBLES ALSO COUNCILMAN WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE DO THE SAME JOB UH THE CONTINUITY IS IS CRITICAL SOMETIMES WHEN THE MISSION IS AT HAND SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR RESERVATIONS AND YOU DO HAVE AN EXCELLENT POINT HOWEVER THERE'S VALUE IN THAT CONTINUITY SURE SO I'M GOING TO CALL IT UH ALL IN FAVOR AYE AYE AYE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER EIGHT UH COUNCILMAN FOSTER[04:05:06]
YES I WANT TO GET THE COUNCIL BLESSING TO MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF ON THE SECURITY OF THE CITY CITY FACILITIES I.E CITY HALL CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT JUST THE OTHER DAY WE SAW OUR NATION CAPITAL GOT BRIEF UM PRIOR TO BEFORE THAT WE HAD A UM ACTIVE SHOOTER UH LOCKDOWN AT CITY HALL AND THAT DIDN'T GO SO WELL SO I WANT TO MEET I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN DOING SECURITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SECURITY SURVEY SECURITY FOR FEDERAL JUDGES I HAVE A BACKGROUND OF THAT OVER 20 YEARS I LIKE TO MEET WITH STAFF AND COME UP WITH SOME SECURITY MEASURES AND CHANGES TO MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE SAFE UH DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON UM I JUST WANT TO DEFER UM MRS SMITH IS THIS ANY ISSUE AT ALL OR ARE WE GOOD OR IF WE'RE SAYING YOU KNOW GETTING COUNSEL'S AGREEMENT THAT HE WILL MEET WITH THE ACTING CITY MANAGER WHO WILL THEN COORDINATE ANY TYPE OF MEETING AND FURTHER WITH THE CHIEF BECAUSE OF COURSE COUNCIL CAN'T AUTHORIZE THEM TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE CHIEF BUT COUNCIL CAN UH SUPPORT HIM CONTACTING THE ACTING CITY MANAGER OKAY AND SHE WILL CERTAINLY GET HIM IN CONTACT WITH WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE UM OFFICIALS UNDERNEATH HER AUTHORITY ARE MY MY QUESTIONS ARE RIGHT ALONG UH WHAT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON'S SAYING MISS UM MISS SMITH BUT COUNCILMAN FOSTER DO YOU HAVE A BUSINESS A CONSULTING BUSINESS THAT DOES SECURITY CONSULTING IN IN THAT TYPE OF ARENA NO NO MY BUSINESS IS AN EXPERT WITNESS NOT SECURITY THANK YOU SO SO I'M I'M FOR IT THEN I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE MAKE SURE WE HAD CLARIFICATION UM BUT I'M ALL FOR IT I I REMEMBER THE LOCKDOWN SO UM ANY WAY WE CAN IMPROVE AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING A LOOK AT THIS BUT ANY WAY WE CAN IMPROVE OUR CITY AND MAKE SURE THE STAFF OUT THERE IS SAFE LET'S DO IT SO I'M FINE WITH IT YEAH PROTECTING OUR STAFF IS CRITICAL AND I I HAVE HAD UH DISCUSSIONS EVEN WHILE THIS THIS LOCKDOWN WAS UH GOING ON UM SO THAT IS THAT IS CRITICAL FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN THAT REGARD COUNCILMAN BAILEY YEAH MAYOR UM I GUESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM UM THAT WE HAVE CLARITY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SEPARATION OF GOVERNMENT HERE WE ARE LEGISLATIVE AND I DON'T WANT TO DELEGATE ANY TYPE OF ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE OF DUTY I THINK SOMEONE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR WAS ASKING UH I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO DELEGATE THAT DUTY TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER NOW THAT'S BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE KIND OF MY QUESTION IS THERE A POLICY THAT YOU WANT TO BRING BACK FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER OR IS THERE A SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE NEED A BUDGET AND YOU NEED TO BRING BACK THE COUNCIL I'M FINE WITH THAT EVERYTHING ELSE WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION AND COMMENT TO THEM THAT'S IN THE CHARTER WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN SPEAK TO HER OR EVEN TO OTHER PEOPLE WITH GIVING NOTICE TO THE CITY MANAGER UM AND AND AND QUESTION THINGS AND AND MAKE ADVICE I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY REQUIRES OUR PERMISSION I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK SOME POLICY CHANGES AND STUFF I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE LIKE POLICY CHANGES MOVED WITH ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WITHOUT THE REST OF US BEING INVOLVED BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO STAY IN OUR OUR LANE IN THAT REGARD I GUESS AS A LEGISLATIVE OR POLICY SETTER AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CLARITY ON THAT THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM IT UM NO THROUGH THIS THEN I I DEFINITELY WOULD WANT AT LEAST BE REPORTED BACK TO HERE SO WE CAN LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DELIBERATE IF NEED BE IF WE CHOOSE YEAH YOU KNOW IS THAT QUESTION FOR ME THIS COULD HAVE SUFFICED ON THE REPORTS OR SOMETHING TO THAT MAGNITUDE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND UNDERSTANDING YOU YEAH IT DEPENDS ON THE INTENT IF THE INTENT IS TO UM YOU KNOW TO KIND OF SET POLICY WITH THE WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHICH I GUESS I WOULD DEEM THAT INAPPROPRIATE THIS IS SET POLICY WITH US AND TO BRING SOMETHING BACK WITH WITH THE STAFF AND AND THE CITY MANAGERS UM UH YOU KNOW REVIEW AND COME BACK TO US TO APPROVE A NEW POLICY OR TO APPROVE NEW BUDGETING FOR SOMETHING THAT I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE FINE AS LONG AS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT COMES BACK TO US AS A AS A POLICY I DON'T WANT LIKE OKAY WE TELL HIM THEN IT GOES THERE AND WE NEVER SEE IT AGAIN THAT'S THAT WOULD BE MY ISSUE UM COUNCILMAN FOSTER WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE WELL IT'S MY ATTENTION TO MORE BE A ADVISORY TO STAFF AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR[04:10:02]
IS IT A BUDGET ITEM OR A POLICY YES I WILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL YES SO IN OTHER WORDS HE IF I'M HEARING COUNCILMAN BILLY WRIGHT IT'S WE CAN ALL GIVE THAT TYPE OF INPUT BUT FOR YOU TO WORK AND AND BRING BACK UM HE HE HAS NO ISSUES WITH THAT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT UH COUNCILMAN FELIX WOULD YOU LIKE THAT I THINK I I THINK THAT'S A GREAT YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY FORWARD-THINKING IN TERMS OF WHENEVER WE CAN IMPROVE AS UH DEPUTY MAYOR MENTIONED UM I THINK IT'S IT'S STEPPING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND YOU KNOW AS WE ALL CAN AGREE ALL STAFF IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSET SO WE GOT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE PROTECTED I MEAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEXT DOOR THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY YOU KNOW UH GUARANTEE ANYTHING YOU KNOW SOME COULD HAPPEN AT ANY GIVEN TIME SO YEAH AND I'VE DISCUSSED THAT UH PRIVATELY WITH MR SHERMAN UH AND ACTUALLY CHIEF MOYA UH THOSE SECONDS ARE VITAL YOU YOU MENTIONED UH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER UH SITUATION THOSE SECONDS ARE VITAL THEY'RE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET BUT THAT ONE MINUTE THAT THOSE THOSE SECONDS ARE CRITICAL IN EQUIPPING OUR OUR EMPLOYEES WITH ADDITIONAL SAFETY MEASURES AND AND EVEN EQUIPPING THEM WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES UH IS IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD CONSIDER I DO WE NEED A MOTION TO ALLOW THIS MR SHERMAN OR IS THIS DISCUSSION JUST GOOD ENOUGH THIS THIS IS FINE I THINK UM WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS UH I DON'T KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS COUNCILMAN FOSTER BUT WE UM THIS IS THE KIND OF THING YOU CAN ALSO BRING UP UNDER YOUR INDIVIDUAL REPORTS UM YOU KNOW REQUEST TO TO WORK WITH STAFF ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC THAT'S ANOTHER YOU KNOW GOOD VENUE FOR THAT UM BUT I DID WANT TO ADD SINCE YOU GAVE ME THE FLOOR FOR A SECOND THAT UM JUST I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO ALL OF YOU BUT SINCE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED WITH THE LOCKDOWN UM CHIEF HAS TAKEN ACTUALLY CHIEF HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON UH GETTING A GROUP OF OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS TOGETHER DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS START EXPLORING SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE SO WE WELCOME COUNCILMAN FOSTER TO JOIN IN THAT PROCESS AND AND PROVIDE HIS INSIGHTS TOO AS WE'RE PLANNING OUR PATH FORWARD AND HAPPY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL AS A RESULT OF THAT WITH WITH YOUR HELP SO OUTSTANDING SO WE DON'T WE DON'T NEED A MOTION THAT THIS DISCUSSIONS UH DO YOU HAVE CONSENSUS AT THIS POINT UH COUNCILMAN FOSTER TO MOVE FORWARD THANK YOU CLEAR MAYOR UH JUST TO BE CLEAR NO THIS DOESN'T PROHIBIT ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER WHO'S INTERESTED OF ASKING QUESTIONS AND MAKING ANY QUERIES WE ALL HAVE THAT AUTHORITY COPY THAT SIR THAT'S WELL UNDERSTOOD ARE WE GOOD COUNCILMAN FOSTER YES WE ARE SIR ALL RIGHT THEN ITEM NUMBER NINE UH OH WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ISSUE WE HAVE CONSENSUS ITEM NUMBER NINE UH COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AGAIN UM I'M JUST GONNA GET RIGHT TO MY MOTION UH WE WE HAVE A NEW YEAR AND WE NEED A NEW CITY MANAGER AND MY MOTION I WANT TO PUT ON THE FLOOR IS TO MAKE UM THE ACTING CITY MANAGER THE NEW MANAGER THE NEW CITY MANAGER FOR PALM BAY AND I'D BE THE ONE TO DISCUSS HER UH CONTRACT UM I THINK SHE'S BEEN DOING I MAKE MY ARGUMENT AFTER I GET A IF I GET A SECOND I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION UM I WANT TO MAKE MY MY ARGUMENT FOR SUZANNE SHERMAN AS CITY MANAGER FOR PALM BAY THE LAST COUNCIL MADE HER ACTING CITY MANAGER THEY HAD THE CONFIDENCE IN HER UH IT WAS VOTED BY THE LAST COUNCIL THAT'S POINT ONE POINT TWO SHE'S BEEN DOING IT SHE'S BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB I SAT DOWN WITH HER I EVALUATED HER RESUME I TALKED SOME SOME OF HER STAFF HIGHLY RECOMMEND HER I EVEN PULLED UP A A FLAWED TODAY ARTICLE DATED JANUARY 9 2019 AND IT SAYS SUSAN SUSAN SHERMAN HAS RETURNED FROM HER FORMER POST AS PALM BAY DEPUTY CITY MANAGER LEAVING SATELLITE BEACH AFTER SERVING A THREE-YEAR STINT WELCOME ABOARD SUSAN SHERMAN I MEAN SUZANNE SHERMAN THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK CITY COUNCILMAN HARRY SANGIAGO SAID THAT IN THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING HE ALSO SAID[04:15:01]
YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB BEFORE AND I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA YOU'D BE YOU'D BE I KNOW GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO A WONDERFUL JOB LIKE YOU DID IN THE PAST THAT WAS COUNCILMAN HARRY SANGIAGO UM I AGREE WITH HIM SHE'S BEEN ACTING FOR OVER UM SIX MONTHS SHE HAS THE EDUCATION SHE HAS THE QUALIFICATION AND I THINK SHE HAS THE SUPPORT OF STAFF AND AND SHE'S A PALM BAY RESIDENCE AND SHE STARTED IN THE I BELIEVE THE WAS IT IT WAS A UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND UH WORKED HER WAY UP TO ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ACTING DEPUTY CITY MANAGER DEPUTY CITY MANAGER NOW ACTING CITY MANAGER SO UM I'M GONNA STOP RIGHT THERE I THINK I SAID ENOUGH I'LL LET ANOTHER COUNCILMAN SPEAK I'LL I'LL JUMP IF I CAME HERE I'LL JUMP IN CARRY ON DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN SO SO I WAS I WAS THINKING ME PERSONALLY I WAS THINKING COUNCIL NEEDED SOME MORE TIME TO CONSIDER UM WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO BUT UH COUNCILMAN FOSTER JUMPED ON IT ME PERSONALLY UH SUZANNE SHERMAN HAS MY UTMOST UM SUPPORT AND I'VE SHARED THAT WITH HER MULTIPLE TIMES I THOUGHT COUNSEL THE THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN BAILEY PROBABLY THOUGHT THE SAME THING THEY MAY HAVE NEEDED MORE TIME BUT I KNOW ME PERSONALLY I I SUPPORT HER FULL-HEARTEDLY UM BECAUSE SHE'S SHE'S A PERSON OF GREAT CHARACTER I I PRIDE MYSELF JUST LIKE THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY ON UM GOING TO CITY HALL REGULARLY AND MEETING WITH STAFF AND EVERYTHING AND I JUST SEE THE MORALE OF STAFF AND HOW THEY YOU KNOW CONVERSE WITH HER AND BACK AND FORTH AND I SEE THE BODY LANGUAGE AND TONE OF VOICE AND THE RESPECT IS THERE BOTH WAYS AND THAT'S BIG BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW CAMARADERIE AMONGST OUR STAFF THEN HOW CAN WE FUNCTION AS A CITY AND IF WE CAN'T FUNCTION AS A CITY HOW CAN WE YOU KNOW MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOOD TO GO AND THE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED UM YEAH I'M FINE WITH IT UM SUZANNE SUZANNE'S BEEN HERE BUT WHAT SPEAKS LOUDER TO ME AND IT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE MIGHT NOT TALK ABOUT IS SHE LEFT AND SHE LEFT FOR A GOOD REASON BECAUSE SHE SAW THE CITY GOING DOWN A ROAD THAT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE BUT HERE WE ARE NOW AND SHE SAW THAT THE CITY WAS TRYING TO GET BACK ON TRACK AND SHE WAS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT I LIVE IN PALM BAY I WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND SHE CAME BACK UM JANUARY 2019. SO YOU KNOW SHE SAW SOMETHING SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE A PART OF AND SHE REMOVED HERSELF FROM THAT SITUATION AND WHEN A BETTER LIGHT CAME TO PALM BAY SHE WANTED TO ASSIST WITH THAT SO I DO APPRECIATE HER FOR HER CHARACTER UM INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THE REST OF COUNCIL ESPECIALLY UH PRIMARILY NEWER COUNCIL LIKE MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN FELIX BUT UM I THOUGHT I THOUGHT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE NEEDED MORE TIME BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT COUNCILMAN FELIX MAYER PUT ME RIGHT ON THE SPOT YEAH UM I WOULD AGREE SO UH LET ME START TO SAY I RECALL UM SPEAKING TO TO UH WHEN I FIRST ACTUALLY GOT ELECTED AND ONE OTHER THING I DID IS IS TO IS REALLY SEEK OUT TO MEET WITH WITH UH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND AND AND UH MISS SHERMAN HERSELF AND I REMINDED HER HOW YOU KNOW OUR INTERACTION YEARS AND YEARS AGO AS THE ASSISTANT WELL SHE SHE HAD SOME ROLE WITH THE UH UM UTILITY DEPARTMENT WHERE AS YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THAT THAT VERY ENGAGED IN MY COMMUNITY AND IT WAS AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ELDERLY THAT WAS JUST ASSIGNED A 2 300 WATER BILL UM FIXED INCOME AT NO FAULT OF OUR OWN AND UNFORTUNATELY AT THE TIME OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT DIDN'T WHAT DO THE NECESSARIES TAKE THE NECESSARY STEP TO ASSIST OUR CITIZEN TAXPAYERS SO THAT THAT WAS MY FIRST UH INTERACTION WITH MR UH MR SHERMAN UM AND I CAN THINK BACK AS I MENTIONED TO HER IS AT THE TIME THE THE SITUATION WAS ASSIGNED TO HER BECAUSE I WAS WITH I WAS RELENTLESS I WANTED TO SERVE HELP THAT PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL AND SHE SAT WITH ME TAKE HER TIME DID THE NECESSARY[04:20:07]
TAKE THE NECESSARY STEP TO REALLY HELP OUR CITIZEN AND AND LIKE I SAID THAT GOES BACK THAT GOES WAY BACK AND AT SOME POINT AT THAT TIME SHE WAS NOT NECESSARILY IN IN UH UPPER MANAGEMENT AND JUST TO SAY WITH THE LEVEL OF RESPECT THE THE THE PROFESSIONALISM UM WAS THERE OVER 10 PLUS YEARS AGO UM AND EVEN CURRENTLY THERE'S A LOT TO SAY WHEN YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAD INTERNAL UM A MORAL ISSUE YOU KNOW HAVING A LEADERSHIP HAVING THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP SO WHERE PEOPLE CAN LOOKED UP TO AND BE BE HAPPY AND WORK HAPPY TO WORK FOR AND THAT THAT SAYS A LOT UM I CAN GO ON UM BUT I HAD SOME PARTICULAR UH CONCERN AND QUESTION THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATION JUST TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HER LEADERSHIP LEVEL UM OFTEN TIME EXPERIENCE COMES TO THE MIX BUT EXPERIENCE AS GREAT AS EXPERIENCE MAY BE HAVING THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE IN THE WRONG MIX IS USELESS CAN BE USELESS SO AGAIN YOU KNOW I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON UM I I THINK SHE'S HAS SHOWN A LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP THAT RESPECTFUL UM I WOULD I WOULD IN FAVOR OF THAT OF MOVING HER UP TO TO THE PERMANENT POSITION AS WELL COUNCILMAN BAILEY MAYOR I ALWAYS WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD SAY BUT UM I KNOW CERTAINLY I ALWAYS SPEAK LESS I KNOW YOU CAN RESERVE THE UM AS YOU SEE FIT THERE BUT YOU KNOW THIS IS A TO ME THIS IS UNCOMFORTABLE IN THE FOR TWO REASONS LET ME GIVE YOU TWO FIRST OF ALL I'VE BEEN THROUGH IT THROUGH THIS UH THREE TIMES NOW WELL YEAH WELL KIND OF THE UH IN SOME WAYS FOUR TIMES BUT UM TO ME AND AND I THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS KNOW THIS I'VE TOLD YOU GUYS ALL BEFORE YOU GUYS WERE UP HERE I MEAN I WAS UP HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW ALL FOUR OF YOU GUYS AND WE HAD NO RELATIONSHIPS OFFSIDE OUTSIDE OF THE SPORT UM EVEN MR FOSTER WHENEVER HE WAS RUNNING AND THEY STARTED OFF RUNNING IN 18 FOR THIS UH COUNCIL POSITION AND LATER GOT OUT FOR WHEN THE DEPUTY MAYOR GOT IN UM NOW WHAT WHAT I'VE ALWAYS WANTED IT WAS A GENUINE SEARCH AND YOU KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT IS NOT A COMMENTARY ON THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IT IS A COMMENTARY ON THE PROCESS AND SO SO FOR GOING TO SEARCH IS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING TO ME THE SECOND THING IS THE WAY THAT THIS CAME FORWARD YOU KNOW LAST TIME UM NOW IN 2018 YOU KNOW I WAS READY FOR A CHANGE WE CHANGED LEADERSHIP AND WE'RE GOING TO START A PROCESS THEN WE HAD AN ITEM ADDED AND ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER MAKE A MOTION THAT BUT THERE WAS NO ITEM THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION WE'RE MAKING ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND PROBABLY THE MOST I MEAN I'D ARGUE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS WE MAKE AS A BODY IS IS OUR CITY MANAGER AND WE'RE MAKING IT WITH NO MEMO NO CONSIDERATION WHERE WE WERE GOING UNTIL NOW AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FELT LIKE IT HAPPENED LAST TIME AND AND I VOTED I VOTED AGAINST THAT I WAS NOT I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT PROCESS I THINK THAT I THINK THAT I MY MY MINIMUM REQUEST WOULD BE THAT WE WAIT AND PUT THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND THE GEN EYE AND WE'LL BE YOU KNOW APPOINTING SOMEBODY TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT TO MAKE HER PERMANENT AND GIVE US ALL THAT TIME TO THINK THAT AND NOW AND JUST AS I TRIED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HER BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT HER UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT HER YOU KNOW VIOLATING SUNSHINE OR I DON'T KNOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER IF I HAD EMOTION SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATION UM OBVIOUSLY SUZANNE AND I KNOW WE I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FEEL OF EACH OTHER WE SPEND MANY HOURS ON ON COUNCIL WEEKS TALKING ON THE PHONE OR MEETING IN PERSON SO TO ME THAT'D BE MY MINIMUM REQUEST BRING THIS BACK NEXT MEETING LET'S GIVE IT THAT PROPER AIR OF TIME AND AND THEN THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE SO WE CAN REALLY FULLY CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE I JUST DON'T LIKE IT BEING A A MEMO OR A ITEM ADDED THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING WITH NO MEMO SO UM AND I'M GONNA ASK THE THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK AT UH AT A POINT BUT BUT FOR ME FOR ME IT IS CRITICAL IT IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL THAT THIS VOTE BE UNANIMOUS FOR MANY REASONS THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS SUZANNE SHERMAN IS A SERVANT LEADER[04:25:08]
AND WHAT I'VE OBSERVED IS NOT ONLY A HIGH LEVEL OF MORALE BUT A DEDICATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH HER A DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND A LEVEL OF ETHICS THAT'S UNWAVERING THAT BEING SAID IT IS CRITICAL FOR THIS BODY TO BE UNANIMOUS ON THIS DECISION I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN BAILEY FOR GOING A SEARCH I UNDERSTAND THE PREVIOUS HISTORY OF OUR CITY THIS DECISION AS A UNANIMOUS BODY WILL GIVE AND EDIFY OUR CITY MANAGER THAT ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD I WOULD I WOULD UH OPEN THIS UP TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS OR SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND I GUESS WE'LL FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AFTERWARDS PLEASE STEP FORWARD SIR WHICH I RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE I LIKE MR BAILEY HAVE SEEN THIS GO ON AND ON WITH CITY MANAGERS YOU GUYS HAVE EXCUSE ME LET ME WIPE THIS THING OFF NOW I FEEL BETTER THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT IT UP HE WANTS YOU TO VOTE ON IT TONIGHT HE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE UNANIMOUS HE WANTS YOU TO VOTE WHAT YOU FEEL IF YOU DON'T FEEL IT'S RIGHT YOU VOTE AGAINST IT IF YOU FEEL IT'S RIGHT YOU VOTE FOR IT SHE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB KEEPER ON THE JOB THANK YOU THANK YOU CHIEF BATON BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST I SEE A PRO AND A CON WITH THIS PROCESS THE GOOD SIDE OR THE PRO SIDE OF IT IS THE FACT THAT YOU YOU'D HAVE A DECISION TONIGHT YOU'D BE WORKING ON A NEW CONTRACT AND BEING BEING DONE WITH IT THE NEGATIVE SIDE THAT I SEE WITH THIS IS WE THE CITY OF PALM BAY PAID FOR A SEARCH FOR A CITY MANAGER PART WAY THROUGH THAT SEARCH THEY CHANGED THE PROCESS BY WHICH THEY WERE GOING TO APPOINT THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WENT FROM FIVE PROSPECTIVE INDIVIDUALS TO TEN PEOPLE MAYBE MORE BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY PEOPLE SUBMITTED THEIR RESUMES TO BE CITY MANAGER OF PALM BAY AND IT WAS NOT WHO THE SEARCH ENGINE FOUND THAT WAS SELECTED AND SO ME BEING THE PERSON SITTING BACK THERE NOT THE PERSON UP HERE MAKING THE DECISION I'M SAYING WELL WHY DID WE EVEN WASTE THE MONEY FOR THE SEARCH IF THEY KIND OF KNEW WHO IT WAS GOING TO BE ALREADY BUT PERSPECTIVE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I TALKED WITH WAS DID THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO AND THEY JUST MADE A DOG AND PONY SHOW FOR FOR THE BENEFITS OF APPEARANCE ESPECIALLY SINCE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS WE'RE TRYING TO SAY NO WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT WE'RE RUNNING A TIGHT CITY WELL THE WAY YOU SHOW YOU'RE RUNNING A TIGHT CITY IS YOU DECIDE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DO ON A HANDWRITTEN NOTE IN THE BOTTOM OF MY AGENDA PACKET FOR SOMETHING ADDED AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT'S NOT UP FRONT SHOWING THE PUBLIC WHAT IS HAPPENING IT'S ONE MORE THING HOW DID THAT HAPPEN WELL IT WAS PRESENTED AFTER THE FACT THAT'S IT JUST GIVES THAT LITTLE TAINT OF BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH WHO YOU PICK THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU CITY MANAGER SUZANNE ACTING CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN HAS BEEN OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP ME EVERY TIME I'VE HAD A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE APPEARANCE MAKE SURE THE APPEARANCE IS THE BEST ONE YOU CAN HAVE THANK YOU THANK YOU IS ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SO UM AT THIS YES COUNCILMAN DALEY THANK YOU MAYOR I THINK YOU'VE[04:30:08]
INDULGED ME FOR JUST A MINUTE AND JUST FOR FOR THE REST OF COUNCIL I I THINK I WANT TO BE CLEAR I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO PICK MISS SHERMAN I THINK THAT SHE WOULD BE A QUALITY CANDIDATE FOR CITY MANAGER UM AM I ENTIRELY YOU KNOW ON BOARD WITH THE IDEA OF FOREGOING A SEARCH IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME BUT I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO OR THAT THAT I COULDN'T AND I SAID THIS A LONG TIME AGO I SAID THIS BACK IN DEPUTY MAYOR'S THERE OBVIOUSLY IN THE LAST COUNCIL IF WE MOVE FORWARD THE WAY THAT WE DID IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR THE NEW COUNCIL TO DO ANYTHING BUT MAKER MAKES MR SHERMAN THE PERMANENT CITY MANAGER WHEN THE TIME COMES AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT AND AND CERTAINLY I THINK THAT SHE HAS YOU KNOW EARNED RESPECT AND AND NO THROUGH THIS TIME AND I DON'T WANT TO YOU KNOW DISPARAGE ANY OF THAT AND SHE KNOWS THAT UH KNOWS HOW I FEEL UM BUT I I I DO I I HAVE TO PAUSE WITH CONCERN TONIGHT AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT MR BATON WAS JUST SAYING IS THAT LOOK IT WAS JUST IT WAS ADDED LAST MINUTE IT WAS IT'S THERE WAS NO MEMO THERE'S NOTHING FOR THIS THERE WAS NOTHING FOR THE PUBLIC TO CONSIDER THEY CAN'T KNOW OUR NORMAL PROCESSES ARE OFF TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE BECAUSE OF NOT THAT WE DID IT ON PURPOSE BUT YOU KNOW THE INTEGRITY OF THIS VOTE WILL BE CALLED INTO QUESTION IF WE DO THIS RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW AND ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT THE CONSIDERATION THAT WE BRING THIS AT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AND A FULL AGENDA PACKET WITH A WITH A MEMO AND AND WE WE MOVE IT FROM THERE I DON'T THINK THAT'S ASKING TOO MUCH AND THAT AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC AND AND IT'LL BE GOOD FOR ME AND MAYBE THEY'LL HELP ME GIVE ME THAT TIME TO GET THERE WHERE MAYBE IT'S NOT THE PROCESS THAT I WANTED US TO DO LAST YEAR AND OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THAT IT WENT DOWN LAST YEAR WHEN WE MOVED INTO THIS BUT GIVE THE TIME TO PROCESS AND GET OVER IT NOW HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER KNOWING WHERE WHERE THE REST OF COUNCIL'S HEADING CAN I SPEAK UM COUNCILMAN FOSTER UM WOULD ALL WITH ALL DUE RESPECT MR BELLY YOU KNOW I SAID IN CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM 2006 16 AND I SAW YOU FIRED GREG LINK AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE DURING THE HOLIDAY YOU VOTED FOR THAT ALSO TO NOT JUST YOU THE THE DEPUTY MAYOR DID IT TOO AND MAYOR CAPOTE Y'ALL FIRED A GREAT GREG LINK JUST BEFORE THANKSGIVING AND THERE WAS NO PRIOR NOTICE IT WAS A NEW COUNCIL AND I MADE A DECISION AT THE END OF THE DAY THE CITY COUNCIL THE CITY ATTORNEY THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY MANAGER BY OUR CHARTER WORKS FOR ALL FIVE OF US NOT THE PUBLIC THEY WORK FOR US THE CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY CLERK GOT AN ANSWER TO EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS DIET YOU KNOW THEY WORK THEM THREE INDIVIDUALS WORK FOR US AND WE WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE CITIZEN OF PALM BAY AND AND THEY EXPECT WHEN SOMETHING GO WRONG IN THE CITY IF THEY'RE NOT CALLING THE MAYOR FIRST OR OR SOMETIMES THEY GO RIGHT TO THE CITY MANAGER BUT I'VE BEEN IN CITY HALL AND SAID I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR I SAID WELL HE'S NOT HERE SO WE WE WE'VE BEEN ENTRUSTED WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITY AND THE STAFF DOESN'T WORK FOR US THEY WORK FOR THE CITY MANAGER THE CITY MANAGER WORKED FOR US THAT'S IN OUR CHARTER AND WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER RIGHT NOW SUZANNE SHERMAN WHO'S PALM BAY PROUD AS YOU SAY USING YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR MOTTO PALM BAY PROUD SHE LIVES HERE IN THE CITY SHE'S BEEN WORKING IN THE CITY FOR OVER 17 YEARS SHE MOVED HER WAY UP THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SHE'S GOT THE EDUCATION SHE'S GOT THE BACKING OF THE STAFF SHE UPLIFT MORALE WHEN SHE TOOK OVER A SITUATION DOING A PANDEMIC AND DOING A CITY MANAGER BEING UH REMOVED AND MORALE BEING LOW AND SHE CAME IN AND SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WHY IN THE WORLD YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND GET SOMEBODY THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN PALM BAY OR BAVAR OFF STATE OF FLORIDA OR UH IT'D BE A WASTE OF MONEY I'M NOT FOR WASTING OUR MONEY WE HAVE SOMEONE IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO INTO BUDGET BUT TIME WE LOOK FOR A SEARCH AND GET SOMEONE A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE FOR CITY MANAGER WE BE IN JUNE JULY WE[04:35:02]
WE NEED TO WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT TOOK US PRETTY MUCH HALFWAY THROUGH IT AND WE JUST GOT A FEW MONTHS I THINK WE'D BE OVER IT AND SHE'S SHE'S DONE THAT EXCELLENT JOB SO I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT IT'S IT'S COUNCIL DECISION IT'S NOT THE PUBLIC DECISION IT'S COUNCIL DECISION COUNCILMAN UH FOSTER I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS HERE THAT AGREES THAT THE ACTING CITY MANAGER IS DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB THAT THE ISSUE IS NOT SO MUCH GOING OUT BUT THAT AFFORD THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS BACK SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A REGULAR VOTE IN OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING PUT IT ON THE AGENDA WITH ENOUGH TIME FOR FOR IT TO BE PUBLICLY NOTICED OUT THERE SO WE COULD COVER THOSE BASES BUT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING EVERYONE HERE IS IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU WE WOULD UH I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING EVERYONE SAY OR COUNCILMAN BAILEY SAY IS CAN LET'S LET'S BRING THIS BACK SO WE'RE ALL ON BOARD BUT WE WE WOULD LIKE PERHAPS TO DO IT TO BRING IT BACK SO THAT THIS THIS BODY CAN VOTE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA NOT AS A LAST-MINUTE ITEM AND AND BRING IT FORTH YOU'RE VALID YOUR POINTS ARE VALID UH COUNCILMAN BAILEY'S POINTS ARE VALID UH EVERYONE HAS COMMITTED AND SAID THAT SHE'S DOING A SPECTACULAR JOB AND AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT IN PARTICULAR WITH THE MORALE THAT YOU MENTIONED WITH THE PALM BAY PROUD YOU'RE YOU'RE HITTING SOME REALLY EXCELLENT POINTS WHAT WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IS GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY LET'S BRING THIS BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND THEN LET'S BE PREPARED LET'S VOTE ON IT AT THAT TIME COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON I'M GONNA JUMP IN BECAUSE UM COUNCILMAN FOSTER MENTIONED SOMETHING AND HIM MENTIONING IT BROUGHT BACK MY MEMORY SO WHILE I AGREE WITH MR BATTEN THIS IS LAST MINUTE IN THE APPEARANCE OF IT UM BUT HE BROUGHT UP ANOTHER VOTE I HAD WHICH WAS MY FIRST VOTE UM UH RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING AND THAT WAS LAST MINUTE BUT TO ADD TO IT FROM THE MOMENT THAT AGENDA CAME OUT I'M JUST BEING REAL MY PHONE HAD NEVER BLOWN UP SO MUCH OF PEOPLE TRYING TO CALL ME AND BOTHER ME AND TRYING TO INFLUENCE ME ONE WAY OR ANOTHER JUST BEING HONEST I'M SAYING THIS TO THE PUBLIC AND MY WORRY ABOUT YOU KNOW MOVING THIS ALONG IS OUTSIDE INFLUENCES THAT DON'T HAVE THE BEST INTEREST IN THE CITY TRYING TO INFLUENCE COUNCIL OR WANT SOMEBODY TO TRY TO VOTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER I ALREADY HAVE MY UP YOU KNOW I'M ALREADY ALL ON BOARD WITH SUZANNE BUT HIM BRINGING THAT UP REMINDS ME OF THAT DAY THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I'M BALD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I WAS UNDER SO MUCH STRESS BUT UM BUT BUT I BECAUSE I I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE MR BATTEN'S COMING FROM MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY BUT I HIM BRINGING THAT UP I REMEMBER THAT I REMEMBER THAT DAY AND I REMEMBER WHEN IT CAME ON THE AGENDA NUMBERS I HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE I'M LIKE HOW DO THEY GET MY NUMBER AND I'M LIKE YEAH SO I'M FINALLY MOVING FORWARD TODAY UM BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HAS THE BEST INTEREST IN THE CITY AND UM SO THAT'S WHY IF IF IT'S VOTED ON TODAY I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT GIVE ME ONE SECOND PLEASE UM THE MOMENT I GOT SWORN IN I GOT PEOPLE APPROACHING ME FOR HER POSITION I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU NO NAMES BUT YOU KNOW THEM AND I'VE BEEN APPROACHED THREE TIMES BY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS THAT WANTED TO BE THE CITY MANAGER OF PALM BAY AND AND IF WE GO ANOTHER TWO WEEKS I MEAN I MEAN I MIGHT HAVE TO GO INTO THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM IT JUST YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WE KNOW IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT SHE'S THE ONE JUST MAKE THIS YOU KNOW ANOINTER AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING UM AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON THAT'S PART OF THE THE PROCESS IS THE PUBLIC ENGAGING WITH US ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO THE PUBLIC ENGAGING WITH US THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS UM[04:40:03]
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE DIGGING YOUR HEELS IN ON THIS UM IT APPEARS THAT WAY I DON'T SEE WHY THERE COULDN'T BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE COULD ALL VOTE ON THIS UNANIMOUSLY WHEN WE ALL AGREE THAT MISS SHERMAN IS AN OUTSTANDING LEADER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TWO WEEKS AND YES IF IF THEY DO CALL US WE ALREADY KNOW THE PERSON WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WHAT'S AT STAKE UM MAKING A DECISION WHEN WE COULD HAVE MADE THIS DECISION IN TWO WEEKS SUZANNE'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE SUZANNE IS DOING A SPECTACULAR JOB I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE BETTER OFF UH BRINGING THIS FORWARD AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS SO I I WOULD I WOULD EVEN UH SAY IT WE'RE ACTING AS THOUGH WE'RE RUSHING ON SOMETHING WHEN WE COULD MAKE THIS A DECISION IN TWO WEEKS AND THERE'S NO NO NEED FOR US TO RUSH ON IT UM THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M I'M COMING FROM UH COUNCILMAN FELIX DID YOU DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD I DON'T MAYOR I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE US RUSHING UM I MEAN AGAIN YOU YOU YOU YOU REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN WE ALL CAN AGREE THE LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP THAT THAT SHE CAN DELIVER YOU KNOW SHE SHE CAN DO SHE HAS BEEN AND SHE SHE WILL SHE CAN DELIVER A GOOD JOB WE HAVE THE LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE AT LEAST AT THIS POINT I MEAN EVEN COUNCILMAN BAILEY I WOULD AGREE RESPECTFULLY SPEAK OF HER LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP UM SO WHAT'S WHAT WHAT BEING IN DISCUSSION IS THE PROCESS UM IN WHICH IT'S BEING DONE IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM I MEAN THE RESULT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT IN TWO WEEKS UM I I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD NOT PULL THE TRIGGER TONIGHT COUNCILMAN BAILEY UH YOU KNOW YOU AND I I DO SEE HIS POINT AS WELL AND AND I I GET IT I GET THE CONCERN PERCEPTION CAN BE SOMETIME A LITTLE YOU KNOW THE PERCEPTION MAY NOT NECESSARILY MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE THE REALITY IT COULD BE FOR SOME PEOPLE BUT AND AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FOLKS TO SEE HERE AS WE PLACE CONFIDENCE INTO HER INTO HER LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP HER DELIVER THIS I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU USE A A TERM THAT I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH WHEN YOU WHEN YOU MENTION PULLING THE TRIGGER UH I'M I'M JUST SAYING LET'S SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER LET'S SQUEEZE IT GO ON THANK YOU MAYOR UM LET ME AND LET ME SAY THIS I THINK YOU KNOW EVEN EVEN IF IT WAS UM EVEN NEXT MEETING IT KIND OF FEELS SOON FOR ME OF COURSE I WAS ENVISIONING US HAVING A PROCESS AND IT'S TAKING YOU KNOW SOME MONTHS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST WE DID A SEARCH BUT THE IDEA THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING AND AND FORGIVE ME MR MR I HOPE YOU KNOW I'M NOT SAYING THIS IN ANY TYPE OF WAY TO THROW YOU IN THE BUS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT I THINK THAT WAS REALLY THAT THAT'S HE WAS PLAYING IN MY DISCUSSION TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS ITEM FOR TONIGHT AND SAID YOU KNOW AND ONE THING SHE SAYS LOOK IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT WE DECIDE TO KICK THIS TO THE FUTURE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE IT'S DONE I MEAN IT'S NOTHING IN YOUR CONTRACT TO PREVENT THAT NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE TO DO THAT WE'RE NOT UP AGAINST THE WALL TO TO MAKE ANY FINAL DECISION RIGHT THIS SECOND TONIGHT AND ESPECIALLY FOR ME NOT KNOWING REALLY EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH IT UM BUT HERE'S THE QUESTION THAT I THINK THAT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE ASKED AND IF IF IT WAS SO CLEAR THAT MRS SHERMAN'S THE ONE I THINK SHE'S A VERY CREDIBLE CANDIDATE I THINK WE DID A SEARCH SHE WOULD BE IN THE RUNNING AND I THINK SHE SHOULD BE NO SHE SHOULD APPLY WOULD BE IN THE RUNNING I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT UM THAT SHE'S A CREDIBLE CANDIDATE BUT IF EVERYBODY'S IN CONSENSUS EVERYBODY ELSE'S CONSENSUS THAT SHE'S NOT JUST AN INCREDIBLE ONE SHE'S A GREAT ONE THEN WHY DID WE ADD THIS AGENDA ITEM THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING WHY WASN'T IT ON THERE LAST FRIDAY WAS IT WHY WASN'T IT ON THERE BEFORE THAT WHY NOW AND I THINK THAT PUTTING ON THE NEXT AGENDA ALLOWS US ALL TO HAVE NOW WE'RE ON ALL ON THE SAME PAGE NOW WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE WE'RE HEADING WE CAN HAVE THOSE PROPER CONVERSATIONS WITH MRS SHERMAN AND AND WE WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TO ANYBODY IT'S ALMOST LIKE SOMETIMES YOU KNOW YOU WORK FOR CONGRESSMAN MAYOR UH YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONGRESSIONAL SIDE IT'S LIKE WHENEVER THEY VOTE FOR A BILL THEY NEVER EVEN READ YOU KNOW AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC WE DIDN'T EVEN[04:45:02]
GET TO SEE IT THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME UM TO ME I THINK THAT THE INTEGRITY PROCESS CAN WE LEGALLY VOTE ON IT TONIGHT ABSOLUTELY IS IT THE SAME THING AS WHENEVER WE GOT RID OF GREG LING NO EVERYBODY KNEW THAT I WAS READY FOR CITY MANAGER TO GO THE DEPUTY MAYOR KNEW BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED HEY THAT'S IT'S COMING IT'S GOING TO COME IMMEDIATELY IT'S COMING QUICKLY IT WASN'T THERE WAS NO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NO NO NO MEMBER OF THAT BODY WOULD HAVE BEEN BLINDSIDED BY IT NOBODY HAD BEEN UNCLEAR ABOUT WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY THIS OKAY AND EVEN EVEN FOR THE PUBLIC NO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS ANYBODY REALLY QUESTIONING WHERE WHERE IT WAS GOING BUT IT WAS SOMETHING I FELT NEED TO BE DONE QUICKLY AND THERE'S REASONS AND WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THOSE REASONS SINCE THEN WITH SOME OF THE ARRESTS AND SO FORTH I WANTED TO GET THINGS CLEANED UP THERE WERE I HAD I I WAS ACTING WITH URGENCY FOR A REASON WHAT'S THE URGENCY RIGHT THIS SECOND AND WHY WAS THERE A WHY WAS IT LAST MINUTE ITEM THAT'S I CAN'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS SO THEN IT BECOMES DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TO ANSWER THOSE AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE TIME TO PROCESS AND THEN IF WE DO THOSE QUESTIONS GO AWAY AND THE TIME THE PROCESS COMES I JUST PUT ON THE NEXT MEETING WELL I RESPECT THOSE YOUR COMMENTS UH WHO COUNCILMAN FOSTER UM WELL I I PUT IT ON IT'S MY ITEM AND I PUT IT ON THERE THE LAST MINUTE UM BECAUSE IT'S I THINK IT'S A DECISION THAT COUNCILS NEED TO MAKE I MEAN HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO WITHOUT A CITY MANAGER A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SHE'S DOING TWO JOBS SO YOU KNOW WE NEED TO SHOW STAFF THAT I MEAN WE PUT THE ITEM ON THE PAY RAISE THE THE CHRISTMAS EVE OFF AND THAT WENT OVER PRETTY WELL TO ME SO I THINK SHE YOU KNOW HER POSITION IS NOT A BILL IT'S IT'S REALLY NOTHING I MEAN WE KNOW SEEM LIKE EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD MAKE A CITY MANAGER SO WHY WAIT TWO WEEKS WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE TIME TO WAIT FOR TWO WEEKS I WAITED SINCE UM UH NOVEMBER 23RD WHEN I GOT SWORN IN AND I WASN'T I WASN'T THERE YET TO BRING THAT BEFORE THE BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND I TOOK SOME TIME AND I AND I AND I HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH WITH STAFF I MET WITH STAFF AND I DIDN'T SOLICIT ANYTHING UM ABOUT HER POSITION IT WAS PEOPLE CAME TO ME IN THE CITY UM AND I WATCHED HER PERFORM SINCE I SINCE I'VE BEEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND UH YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN WATCHING HER SINCE SHE CAME BACK SO I'VE BEEN ENGAGED AND WE ALL UP HERE BEEN ENGAGED ON HER PERFORMANCE AND SO ARE WE GOING TO KEEP PUSHING THIS BACK WE GOT A NEW YEAR WE NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YES IF WE DON'T GET A 5-0 VOTE IF WE GET A 3-2 VOTE OR 4-4-1 VOTE I'M FINE WITH THAT BUT SHE WOULD KNOW THAT EVERYBODY AGREE THAT SHE SHOULD BE OUR CITY MANAGER EVEN IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR HER NO NO CALLING OUT FROM WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING SIR THANK YOU PLEASE DON'T CALL OUT ANYMORE ALL RIGHT COUNCILMAN FOSTER APPARENTLY WHATEVER COUNCILMAN BAILEY BROUGHT FORWARD IS IT'S NOT SATISFACTORY TO YOU UM IN MY EYES WE'RE ABOUT TO CALL ON A VOTE WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNANIMOUS YOU YOU ASKED WHY WHY NOT WAIT WHY WHY NOT WHY EXECUTE THIS NOW ALL HE'S ASKING FOR IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD IN TWO WEEKS PERHAPS THE DISCUSSION OF THE CONTRACT PERHAPS UH OTHER DETAILS THAT THAT WOULD ENSUE BASED ON MISS SUZANNE SHERMAN BEING THE CITY MANAGER IT APPEARS THAT WE ALL DO AGREE THAT SHE SHOULD BE AS SHE'S DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB AT THE SAME TIME THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AS A WRITTEN ITEM AND I UNDERSTAND THE THE DISMISSAL OF THE[04:50:01]
PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS I GET THAT HIRING A CITY MANAGERS IS A DIF IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS AND WITH THAT BEING SAID I SUPPORT MS SHERMAN AS I SAID SHE IS A SERVANT LEADER AND THERE ARE MANY FOLKS THAT SHE'S AFFECTED OR ACTUALLY BLESSED OTHERS BY HER PRESENCE HER DEMEANOR AND HER ACTIONS AND SO I'M FULLY ON BOARD WITH THAT I'M FULLY ON BOARD WITH WAITING FOR TWO TWO WEEKS TO GET THOSE CONTRACT ISSUES IN PLACE HOWEVER I WON'T JEOPARDIZE THE COMPROMISE OF GIVING HER THE CONFIDENCE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL SUPPORTS HER WHAT YOU SAID IT BEING THREE TO TWO VOTE MAKES UH MAKES A SENSE OF YES IT'LL PASS HOWEVER IF IT'S A FIVO VOTE IT ASSURES THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND AND WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY VALUE TO ANY OTHER CONGRESS ANY OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE ON ON THIS DIOCESE I'VE SAID ALL ALONG I LOVE TO WORK AS A TEAM I'VE SAID ALL ALONG THAT UH COLLABORATION AND AND MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER IS IS CRITICAL AS AN EXAMPLE NOT ONLY TO OUR FELLOW CITIZENS BUT TO OUR STAFF AND AND EVERY EVERYONE LIKEWISE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY AND AND THAT'S ALL COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS ASKING FOR WILL YOU RECONSIDER AND AND PERHAPS BRING THIS BACK FOR TWO WEEKS SO WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ITEM WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS OF OF THE CONTRACT WHERE YOU COULD POSSIBLY EVEN UH BE ASSIGNED TO NAVIGATE THOSE ISSUES YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT SIR WOULD I RECONSIDER NO I'M NOT GOING TO RECONSIDER SIR AT ALL DUE RESPECT I RESPECT UH MR BAILEY UM OPINION I RESPECT THAT UH BUT I DON'T SEE THE NEED I DON'T WANT TO GET IN A A UM A SITUATION WHERE WE KEEP WHEN WE START PUSHING THINGS DOWN THE ROAD IN OTHER WORDS[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
MY METAPHOR KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WHEN IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE ALL WANT HER AS THE CITY MANAGER JUST MAKE A DECISION AND AND THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT I JUST DON'T SEE HOLDING OFF FOR TWO WEEKS I WANT TO GIVE THE STAFF THE CONFIDENCE IF IT'S A 3-2 VOTE BUT THE THE TWO WHO DON'T VOTE FOR HER AGREE THAT SHE SHOULD BE A CITY MANAGER I CAN LIVE WITH THAT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE THE IF YOU'RE DISAGREEING BECAUSE WE DON'T WE NEED TO DO IT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW BUT YOU AGREEING THAT SHE'D BE THAT YOU'RE AGREEING THAT SHE SHOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER BUT YOU'RE DISAGREEING THAT WE SHOULD DO IT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING I CAN LIVE WITH THAT SO UM UM SHE'S I MEAN SHE'S SHOWN THAT SHE COULD DO THE JOB AND THEN SHE'S SHOWN THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GO FURTHER THE CITY BEEN WITHOUT A CITY MANAGER FOR OVER SIX MONTHS DOING A PANDEMIC WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD I I DON'T WANT TO GO ANOTHER DAY WITHOUT THIS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT LONG AND HARD AND I'M THE ONE THAT PUT IT ON AT THE LAST MINUTE THERE'S A REASON WHY I DID THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT A POLITICAL FOOTBALL I WANT TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT SHE'S THE ONE AND I WOULD LIKE FOR MY I AGREE WITH YOU WE SHOULD BE UNITED[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
UNANIMOUS IN OUR VOTE I AGREE WITH THAT SIR BUT UM AND I'M ASKING I WOULD RATHER HAVE A 5-0 VOTE BUT THE GOAL IS TO MAKE HER CITY MANAGER AND THAT'S MY GOAL DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON I WAS JUST KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING UM WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND UM JUST CALL THE VOTE MAYOR I I DO HAVE I WANT TO WRAP UP THERE'S ONE PART I WANT TO MAKE YOU KNOW CLEAR ON THE THE MOTION THE MOTION HAD TWO PARTS UM IF I MAY JUST WRAP UP REAL QUICK THE YOU KNOW THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THAT WE WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE VOTE BUT WE WAITED TILL THE LAST SECOND TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ITEM IF WE CAN WAIT TO PUT THE AGENDA ITEM WE CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS FOR THE VOTE THAT'S THAT'S I JUST DON'T THAT'S HARD FOR ME TO BREAK FROM THAT IT JUST JUST LET THE PUBLIC SEE IT AND AS FAR AS PEOPLE CALLING YOU WHEN YOU TELL THEM NO AND YOU WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAND IT THE RIGHT WAY THEY'LL[04:55:04]
STOP CALLING YOU TRUST ME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE AND BUT THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT TO NEW PEOPLE AND FOLLOWING UP ON THAT THE SECOND PART OF THE MOTION IS I UNDERSTAND IT UH MAYOR AND YOU GUYS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WAS TO UH ALSO DEDI UH TO TO APPOINT MR FOSTER TO UH WORK ON A A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION FOR MRS SHERMAN TO BE PERMANENT CITY MANAGER AGAIN YOU KNOW BACK TO THE WHOLE NEW THING I YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THAT A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD BE THE ONE DELEGATED THAT AUTHORITY I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THE CONTRACTS I'VE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THE CONTRACTS WHICH IS A BASE FOR WHAT SHE HAS NOW UM NO I THINK IT'D BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR MYSELF OR OR EVEN YOU KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR IF WE NEED BE IF THIS IS UP THE COUNCIL TO BE THE ONE TO NEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT AND BRING IT BACK UH SO THERE'S SO THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HIT THAT BEFORE WE VOTE ON MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY BECAUSE THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THIS ONE IS ARE WE GONNA MOVE FORWARD A CONTRACT TWO IS WHO'S GOING TO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE TO NEGOTIATE AND IF SO WHO IT IS AND IT'S COMBINED TOGETHER BUT UM I'M GONNA HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME VOTING FOR THE ONE BUT THE OTHER THING TOO IS I JUST DON'T THINK THAT SOMEBODY PROFESSIONAL COUNSEL SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT'S THAT'S DOING THAT CAN I CAN I SAY SOMETHING MERRICK BECAUSE BECAUSE HE INVOKED HE INVOKED MY NAME UM I NOTICED YOU'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL LONG AND I HAVE BUT YOU DON'T KNOW MY BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE IN NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE YOU NEVER ASK ME AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE SO UH I'D NEGOTIATE A LOT OF CONTRACTS AND I THINK I COULD GIVE A FAIR NEGOTIATION FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY WITH MS SHERMAN UH IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT UM MUCH THINGS DOESN'T IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE BUT I WOULD GIVE HER A FAIR A FAIR NEGOTIATION I'D GIVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY A FAIR NEGOTIATION SO UM DON'T DISREGARD MY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I SAT ON THIS DIOCESE FOR TWO MONTHS UM MY BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE MATTER THANK YOU MISS SMITH SHOULD IT BE IN TWO TWO MOTIONS OR IS IT OKAY FOR IT TO BE COMBINED IT WOULD BE CLEAR IF IT WERE TO BECAUSE YES IT WOULD BE CLEAR IF YOU FIRST DECIDED WHETHER YOU WANTED TO A POINT AND THEN IF YOU AGREE TO A POINT THEN TO MOVE TO WHO'S GOING TO NEGOTIATE BECAUSE SOMEBODY MAY AGREE WITH PART A BUT NOT PART B IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW WHEN I TELL YOU ALL ABOUT ANSWERING QUESTIONS DURING A DEPOSITION NOT THE ANSWER OR A COMPOUND QUESTION RIGHT OKAY SO UM THEN I'LL PULL MY SECOND COUNCILMAN FOSTER MY MY MOTION WAS TO MAKE SUZANNE SHERMAN THE CITY MANAGER AND I NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT SO IF YOU IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR THAT I'M I'M FINE WITH IT BUT I'M NOT GONNA UM THAT'S THE MOTION SO AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF BOTH TEST TESTS THERE I'M IN SUPPORT OF BOTH BUT I'M WE ALSO HAVE TO LEAN ON THE CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM HER SO I'M HEARING ONE MOTION FIRST AND THEN IF IT PASSES THEN GO ON TO THE NEXT MOTION IF IF THAT'S THE PROPER PROTOCOL UH CITY ATTORNEY MS SMITH YES WE HAVE THEY'RE RELATED BUT THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS OKAY SO I I WILL I WILL LISTEN TO MY CITY ATTORNEY AND MAKE THE MOTION TO UM MAKE SUZANNE SHERMAN THE CITY MANAGER IMMEDIATELY WE HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE SUZANNE SHERMAN THE CITY ATTORNEY SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON CITY MANAGER AS YOU AS YOU THE ACTING CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN THE CITY MANAGER AND IT WAS SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR AYE PASSES FOUR TO ONE I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT MAN I'M GONNA I'M GONNA TAKE MR BAILEY ADVICE I'M GONNA BE NICE I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE[05:00:06]
DEPUTY MAYOR NEGOTIATE SUZANNE SHERMAN CONTRACT HE DID IT BEFORE I ALLOW HIM TO DO IT AGAIN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID YOU MENTIONED IS THAT IS THAT THE MOTION YES YES THE MOTION IS TO TO ALLOW DEPUTY MAYOR KENNY JOHNSON TO NEGOTIATE SUZANNE SHERMAN CITY MANAGER CONTRACT IS THERE A SECOND SECOND THERE'S A MOTION I I CALL EVERYONE IN FAVOR SAY AYE ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS MRS SHERMAN AND AND CONGRATULATIONS MRS SHERMAN THANK YOU WELL DESERVED YEAH I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS YOU KNOW I UH I YOU KNOW A LITTLE AWKWARD SITUATION RIGHT AT TIMES BUT I I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ALL SHARED AND YOU KNOW HOPE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE YOU AND THE CITY UH TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY SO I THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIDENCE AND WE'LL WE'LL TALK AGAIN SOON ON THIS TOPIC UM THE ONLY THING I ACTUALLY WANTED TO MENTION I I DID SHARE AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN THE EARLIER ITEM WHICH WAS OUR OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS THAT CAME IN AS A RESULT OF THE REVIEW OF OUR FINANCIAL STATUS SO WE WE DID RECEIVE VERY POSITIVE UH STABLE OUTLOOK UM BOND RATINGS UH FROM FROM BOTH S P AND FITCH I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AGAIN FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC'S UH PURPOSE WHICH WAS UH BASICALLY A STATEMENT FOR THE WORLD AT LARGE THAT UM WE ARE A GOOD FINANCIAL RISK AND THAT WE'RE MAKING GOOD CHOICES YOU KNOW COLLECTIVELY AS A CITY THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IS WE'VE BEEN YOU KNOW TALKING ABOUT OUR POPULATION AND THE GROWTH IN THE CITY AND UH THIS THIS WEEK I GOT OUR MONTHLY REPORT AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY UH SURPASSED 120 000 UH RESIDENT MARK AS OF THIS WEEK SO OR AS OF THE THE REPORT COMING OUT SO IT'S THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US I MEAN WE'VE BEEN GROWING BUT YOU KNOW 120 000 WE'RE JANUARY 2021 STARTING THE YEAR THERE IT'S IT'S UM YOU KNOW KIND OF COOL SO I FIGURED I'D SHARE AND THAT'S ALL THANK YOU THANK YOU MISS SMITH NOTHING FURTHER GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING YES IT IS PUBLIC SPEAKING CARDS BUSH DURAN THEN BILL BATTEN EXCUSE ME 219 TRENTON AVENUE HERE IN PALM BAY I WANT TO WELCOME THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU'LL GET TO KNOW ME SOONER OR LATER MY CALL SIGN IN THE MILITARY WAS BITCHIN SO THAT'S WHAT I DO A LOT OF FIRST THING I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS IS UM THE SPEEDING DUMP TRUCKS RUNNING THROUGH OUR CITY NOW YOU GUYS WENT ON AND ON ABOUT DEGROOT BEING A DEADLY ROAD THESE DUMP TRUCKS MAKE IT REALLY HAZARDOUS THEY'RE 50 60 000 POUNDS OF STEEL RUNNING 40 50 60 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE THEY GET PAID BY THE LOAD SECOND THING TRASH CONTAINERS I HEARD MR BAILEY MENTIONED THAT EARLIER THESE GUYS NEED TO PRACTICE SITTING THE CANS BACK IN THE YARD AND NOT IN THE DAMN ROAD IT'S A HAZARD AND THE OTHER THING IS CAN WE OPT OUT OF RECYCLING ALL THE RECYCLING IS PAPER EVERYTHING ELSE GOES INTO TRASH SO IF THERE'S A WAY I CAN OPT OUT OF IT I'D LIKE TO DO THAT AND ONE OTHER THING THAT COME TO ME WHILE I WAS SITTING BACK THERE THE CITY HAD AN OPIOID SUIT GOING ON DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE STATUS ON THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT NATIONALLY THEY HAD SETTLED IT AND THE MONIES WERE BEING DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITIES SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT ONE OTHER LITTLE ONE U-TURNS AT THESE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS OFF OF MALABAR ROAD EXAMPLE IS IN FRONT OF THE UH THE BIG SERVICE STATION I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF IT IS NOW THERE'S TWO OF THEM RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER THERE'S A YUI AND THEN THIS THIS ONE RIGHT NEXT TO IT PEOPLE MAKE THAT THAT U-TURN TO GO BACK TO THE GAS STATION THEN THEY DO THE SAME THING AT MALABAR AND MINTON AND IT JUST JAMS EVERYBODY UP BEHIND THEM SO THAT'S ALL THE TO SIT UP THERE AND TAKE THE STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO YOU I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU MR SHERMAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS I YEAH OKAY UM BUTCH THEN I'LL I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE ITEMS SO YOU KNOW FOLLOW UP WITH YOU[05:05:05]
ON SOME OF THE DETAILS OF SPEEDING ETC BUT YEAH MAY OR MAY I RESPOND TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS HE MADE REAL QUICK SURE REGARDING RECYCLING AND I DIDN'T MAKE IT A POINT I THINK MR SHERMAN YOU HAVE AN EMAIL OF ISSUE THEM PICKING UP RECYCLING YOU KNOW YOU'RE SAYING IT DOESN'T GO TO RECYCLING ISSUES OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY WERE USING RECYCLING TRUCKS AND GARBAGE TRUCK OR A GARBAGE A TRUCK TO PICK UP BOTH GARBAGE AND RECYCLING CONTAINERS TOGETHER WE DID RECEIVE ONE UH RESIDENT COMPLAINT VIA EMAIL I THINK THAT WAS AND SO THAT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE UH RESPONSE BACK FROM PUBLIC WORKS I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT OKAY JUST BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT MAKES A DIRECT POINT TO WHAT MR ORWEN JUST SAID YEAH THANK YOU MR BATTEN OR SENIOR CHIEF BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST I HAVE THREE ITEMS IN UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS ONE THIS IS FOR YOU AND THE CITY COMBINED HAPPY NEW YEAR MAY IT BE HEALTHY MAY IT BE WEALTHY AND MAY IT BE SAFE ITEM NUMBER TWO THIS WORKED WELL FOR SHORT ORDER BUT DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHEN WE'D BE GETTING BACK INTO THE CHAMBERS A ROUGH IDEA I PUT IN EXTRA 10 STEPS JUST FOR THIS ONE OKAY ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION BOARD DISCUSSION I DIDN'T HAVE A SHEET IN SO I COULDN'T DISCUSS IT WAS YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF POWER AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAN YOU DO AS JUST A CITIZEN YOU KNOW THAT AND I KNOW THAT SO IF YOU HAVE IF YOU CAN UTILIZE YOUR POWER AND YOUR POWER BASE THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHICHEVER YOU CHOOSE IT'S OKAY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CONTRACTS AND STUFF YOU'RE NOT SITTING ON THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION IT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PENSION BOARD IS DOING BUT YOU HAVE MORE POWER BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO BE THE ONE PAYING THE FINES YOU'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO BE PAYING THE BILLS YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF LET ME SEE WHAT THEY'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ATTITUDE WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN THE ROOM INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY SAID JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP THEM KEEP ON TRACK WITH OKAY WITH THAT BEING SAID POPULATION JUST INCREASED TO 120 000 WELL THAT MEANS YOU ALL GOT A PAY RAISE BECAUSE YOU'RE BASED ON CAPITAL OF THE INDIVIDUALS OF THE POPULATION JUST GOT A PAY RAISE THANK YOU THANK YOU BILL ANY ADDITIONAL CARDS THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED GOOD MORNING* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.