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ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON APRIL 7TH, 2021, MEETING OF
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THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS CALLED TO ORDER EVERYONE PLEASE RISE AND FACE THE FLAG.RENIER WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UNDER WHAT YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
YES, MR. BOEREMA MR. BOOTHROYD, HERE.
MR. HILL HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED.
MR. JORDAN, MS. MARAGH. MR. WARNER, PRESENT.
MR. KARAFFA AND OUR BOARD COUNSEL, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY JENNIFER COCKCROFT IS PRESENT.
THANK YOU. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES FROM OUR MARCH.
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THERE WERE TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE MEETING.CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO ADOPT MINUTES FROM MARCH 3RD.
AGAIN, A MOTION, THE SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN
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ADVISORY BOARD COMPRISED OF SEVEN MEMBERS.ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
OUR PROCEDURES ARE AS FOLLOWS, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE. BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL THEN BE ASKED TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND PRESENT ANY INFORMATION GERMANE TO THE CASE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
THE FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE WILL FIRST HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION AND THOSE OPPOSED. WE'RE ALL PROCEEDINGS, ALL APPLICANTS AND SPEAKERS FROM THE AUDIENCE MUST SIGN OATH CARDS AT THE PODIUM.
WE LEGIBLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AS A COURTESY, I ASK THAT IF THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO MAY HAVE SIMILAR COMMENTS, YOU INFORMALLY APPOINT A SPOKESMAN TO CLARIFY YOUR VIEWS.
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC WILL BE HEARD.
I WOULDN'T CALL FOR EMOTION AND A SECOND AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ARE THEN FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DISPOSITION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
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WORST CASE UNDER NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT, CASE V.NINE THOUSAND TWENTY ONE HAS BEEN HAS BEEN CANCELED, WELL, NOT CANCELED, BUT THERE'S BEEN CONTINUED TO THE MAY 5TH, 2021 MEETING.
SO OUR FIRST CASE TONIGHT WILL BE A CASE NUMBER TWO HUNDRED NEW BUSINESS, GREESON.
ALL RIGHT. IT'S THE FIRST CASE CASES CASE, THE TEN, TWENTY, TWENTY ONE, WHICH IS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW AN EXISTING SWIMMING POOL AND PROPOSED SCREEN ENCLOSURE TO ENCROACH SIX FEET INTO THE EIGHT FEET SIDE BUILDING SETBACK AS ESTABLISHED BY SECTION ONE EIGHTY FIVE POINT ZERO THREE FOUR F SEVEN C, THE PALM BEACH CODE OF ORDINANCES.
BACKGROUND, THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF TWO STANDARD GENERAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, LOTS NOW COMBINED, A LOT CONTAINING THE HOME HAS A WIDTH OF 80 FEET AND THE OVERALL PROPERTY HAS A DEPTH OF TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET.
SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS CONSTRUCTED AND RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IN TWO THOUSAND FIVE. THE PROPERTY ALSO RECEIVED A PERMIT FOR A SWIMMING POOL IN TWO THOUSAND.
THE PERMIT ZERO FIVE DASH ONE THREE FOUR SIX FIVE.
APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2016 AND HAS NOW APPLIED FOR A SCREEN ENCLOSURE VIA A PERMIT TWENTY ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED ANALYSIS VARIANCES FROM THE TERMS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WOULD BE GRANTED WHEN SPECIAL CONDITIONS EXIST THAT RESULT IN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP.
VISIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WERE ENFORCED OVER.
A VARIANCE MAY NOT BE GRANTED WHEN THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY WOULD BE COMPROMISED AS A RESULT OF THE VARIANCE. APPLICATION MUST DEMONSTRATE THAT THE ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN OF SECTION ONE SIXTY NINE POINT ZERO ZERO NINE THE CODE OF ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN MET.
REVIEW OF THESE ITEMS IS AS FOLLOWS.
ITEM ONE, SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST, WHICH ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND STRUCTURE OR BUILDING INVOLVED, WHICH ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO OTHER LANDS, BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES IN THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORY, ZONING DISTRICT OR SITUATION.
DOUGLAS MICHAELS AND MICHAEL SCREENING, INC., THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT STATES
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THE HOMEOWNER JUST BOUGHT THE HOUSE.MARY VARGAS IS A BEAUTIFUL BACKYARD WITH A POOL AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SCREEN ENCLOSURE AROUND IT. THE APPLICANT DID, IN FACT, BUY THE PROPERTY AT THE POOLS INSTALLED.
IT APPEARS THE POOL WAS PERMITTED, INSTALLED AND INSPECTED WITHOUT NOTICING THE SETBACK ENCROACHMENT. NOW THE CURRENT OWNER, AN APPLICANT, HAS APPLIED FOR A PERMIT FOR A SCREEN ENCLOSURE AROUND THE EXISTING SWIMMING POOL, THOUGH IT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED BEFORE.
THIS POOL AND SCREENED ENCLOSURE MUST NOW COMPLY WITH THE ZONING CODE.
THE BOARD AND COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER THE EXISTING PERMITTED SWIMMING POOL AS A SPECIAL CONDITION OR CIRCUMSTANCE ITEM TO THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES IDENTIFIED IN ITEM ONE ABOVE ARE NOT THE RESULT OF THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
EXISTING SWIMMING POOL ENCROACHING INTO THE BEACHSIDE BUILDING SET BACK MAY BE CONSIDERED A SPECIAL CONDITION OR CIRCUMSTANCE AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOME AND POOL WAS COMMENCED BY A PREVIOUS OWNER.
A POOL ENCLOSURE AS A CUSTOMARY STRUCTURE IS NECESSARY TO A SWIMMING POOL, ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ITEM THREE LIBERAL INTERPRETATION.
ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS CURRENTLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORY, ZONING DISTRICT OR SITUATION UNDER THE TERMS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WOULD WORK UNNECESSARY AND UNDUE HARDSHIP ON THE APPLICANT LITERAL INTERPRETATION AND ENFORCEMENT.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO BUILD WITHIN THE APPLICABLE SETBACKS. BUILDING WITHIN THE REQUIRED SET BACKS WOULD NOT ALLOW THOSE SCREENED ENCLOSURE IN THE DESIRED LOCATION.
ITEM FOR THE VARIANCE, IF GRANTED, IS THE MINIMUM VARIANCE NECESSARY TO MAKE POSSIBLE THE REASONABLE USE OF THE LAND BUILDING OR STRUCTURE MAXIMUM OF SIX FEET INTO THE EIGHT FOOT SIDE INTERIOR BUILDING SET BACK WOULD BE NEEDED TO MEET THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
ITEM FIVE RENTECH OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST WILL NOT CONFIRM THE APPLICANT ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGE THAT IS DENIED BY DEVELOPMENT CODE TO OTHER LANDS, BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES IN THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORY, ZONING DISTRICT OR SITUATION.
GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD CONFER UPON THE APPLICANT A SPECIAL PRIVILEGES PRIVILEGE, BUT A SET BACK RELIEF AS THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS APPLY TO OTHER PROPERTIES IN THIS COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, BUILDING WITHIN THE REQUIRED SET BACKS WOULD REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO PLACE A SCREEN ALONG THE EDGE OF THE WATER AND RENDER THE S PORTION OF THE POOL DECK UNUSABLE. THE BOARD AND COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER WHAT IS REASONABLE.
ITEM SIX, THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WILL BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CODE WILL NOT BE INJURIOUS TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC WELFARE. STAFF HAS NOT IDENTIFIED ANY DETRIMENTAL EFFECT TO PUBLIC WELFARE.
ITEM SEVEN VARIANTS REPRESENTS A REASONABLE DISPOSITION OF A CLAIM BROUGHT UNDER THE.
HARRIS PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS PROTECTION ACT, CHAPTER NINETY FIVE, DASH ONE EIGHTY ONE LAWS OF FLORIDA AND THE ORDER OF THE CITY HAS REASONABLY BURDEN APPLICANT'S PROPERTY BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SPECIAL MASTER APPOINTED ACCORDANCE TO THE ACT OR THE ORDER OF THE COURT AS DESCRIBED IN THE ACT.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED A CLAIM MADE UPON THIS PROPERTY WITH RESPECT TO THE HARRIS ACT OR ANY DEVELOPMENT ORDER AS INDICATED ABOVE.
THEREFORE, ITEM SEVEN IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THE VARIOUS REQUESTS.
BE ADVISED THE OWNER MUST NOW APPLY FOR A VACANT OF EASEMENT FOR THE SIX FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT, OR THE EXISTING SWIMMING POOL IS LOCATED.
THE VACANT OF EASEMENT MUST BE ISSUED PRIOR TO THE SCREEN ENCLOSURE BEING PERMITTED.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MUST DETERMINE, BASED ON THE FACTS PRESENTED, TO WHAT DEGREE, IF ANY, RELIEF IS REQUIRED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED AS REQUIRED UNDER SECTION ONE SIXTY NINE POINT ZERO ZERO NINE OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH CODE OF ORDINANCES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A FINAL REVIEW. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES IN ATTENDANCE, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
HEY, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE APPLICATION FOR A BIG KEY TO VACATE OF EASEMENT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY GRANTED WHEN THEY APPLY OR IT'S REVIEWED AND THEN SO IT GOES THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS? IS THERE THIS IT STILL HAS TO BE VOTED ON BY CITY COUNCIL THAT'S JUST APPLIED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
IT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR THEM TO VACATE VACATED IN THIS KIND OF CIRCUMSTANCE.
HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS. OK, THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
HER NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, MY NAME IS DOUG MICHAELS, MICHAEL SCREENING, INC..
AND JUST BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, STATE WHAT THE WITH THE APPLICATIONS FOR APPLICATION IS FOR A POOL ENCLOSURE AROUND AN EXISTING POOL ENCLOSURE THAT WAS PUT BACK.
I WANT TO SAY, I THINK IT WAS IN TWENTY FIVE.
THEY GOT A PERMIT TO PUT THE POOL IN THERE.
AND I THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAD AN AUTHORIZATION TO PUT A FULL SCREEN BACK IN TWO THOUSAND FIVE. BUT FROM WHAT GRACIN SAID.
AT THE SET, BACKS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN, AND WHEN I WAS OUT ON THE CUSTOMER'S PROPERTY TALKING TO THE HOMEOWNER, I ACTUALLY CALLED IT THE CITY OF.
POMPEII TO FIND OUT WHAT THE SETBACK WAS, AND ACTUALLY AT THAT TIME, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS FIVE FEET. THEN I WENT BACK WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION AND IT CAME OUT THAT IT WAS
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SIX FEET. AND NOW WE COME TO FIND OUT THAT WE NEED A FEED.I'M HERE TO TRY TO GET HOMEOWNER TO WHERE SHE CAN HAVE HER HOME FOR.
MUCH LESS THE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MICHAEL.
THANK YOU, SIR, YOU CAN SIT DOWN. THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION OR OPPOSED TO THE APPLICATION? I WILL AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC, I'M AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR EMOTION AND GET EMOTION.
SECOND MOTION ON THE SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I WILL OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.
OK. WELL, OUR NEXT CASE, PLEASE, CHRIS.
OUR NEXT CASE IS CASE AFTER ELEVEN, TWENTY, TWENTY ONE.
THE REQUEST AS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT, FINAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR A TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE UNIT SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS CYPRESS BAY WEST PHASE ONE BACKGROUND SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF MARILYN MONROE BOULEVARD, SOUTHEAST AND WEST OF BABCOCK STREET, SOUTHEAST, SPECIFICALLY A PORTION OF TAX POZOLE 500 SECTION FOR TOWNSHIP 30 RANGE THIRTY SEVEN BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
THIS FINAL PUDI REQUEST INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY SEVENTY SEVEN POINT FIVE TWO ACRES OF LAND IN TWO THOUSAND FOR THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY VIA ORDINANCE TWO THOUSAND FOUR DASH THIRTY FIVE, TOTALING ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN ACRES.
THE ORIGINAL FUTURE LAND USE AS AMENDMENT DESIGNATED ALL THE LANDS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE BY ORDINANCE TWO THOUSAND FOUR DASH FIFTY TWO, WHICH STATED THAT EIGHTEEN HUNDRED UNITS COULD BE PLACED ON THE LANDS OF STONE OR CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE SITE.
SPECIFIC CONDITIONS WERE PLACED ON THE AMENDMENT VIA ORDINANCE TWO THOUSAND FOUR, DASH FORTY EIGHT BETWEEN TWENTY FIVE AND TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
A SERIES OF THIRTY SEVEN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS WERE MADE BRINGING THE TOTAL UNIT ENTITLED TO TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED NINETY SIX.
THE TOTAL ENTITLEMENTS ENCUMBERED REMAINING UNITS ARE AS FOLLOWS ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT UNITS ON THE WEST SIDE OF BABCOCK STREET AND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO UNITS ON THE EAST SIDE OF BOWCOCK STREET ON FEBRUARY 18.
CASE PDE THREE TWENTY TWENTY ONE RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH TWELVE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL FOR PRELIMINARY PLAN PRIMARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL TO BE KNOWN AS CYBERSPACE WEST PHASE ONE PUDI.
THE DEVELOPER, HAS SUBMITTED THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT MATCHES THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN NOW WITH ITS FINAL NAME.
WHICH WILL BE NOT WELL AS OF CYBERSPACE.
YES, IT WILL ACTUALLY BE SAFER.
NOW THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOUND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR A PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO CONSIST OF A.
TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION CALLED CYPRESS BAY WAS PHASE ONE PARTY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AS A CONCEPT WHICH ENCOURAGES AND PERMITS A VARIATION IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BY ALLOWING DEVIATION AND LOT SIZE, BULK OR TYPE OF DWELLING DENSITY, LOSS COVERAGE, SETBACKS AND OPEN SPACE FROM THOSE ELEMENTS REQUIRED IN ANY SINGULAR ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM THE CITY ZONING CODE.
SPECIFICALLY, THE FDP PROPOSES A TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE UNIT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN ONE PHASE FOR THE FDP.
TYPICAL LOTS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE 50 BY ONE TWENTY FIVE.
THE MINIMUM HOME SIZE AND SETBACKS WILL NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED IN DECLARATIONS OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONSIST OF A GATED ENTRANCE WITH AMENITIES, CENTER, POOL, PLAYGROUND, PASSIVE RECREATION AREAS, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS AND PRIVATE ROADWAYS CONDITIONS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE FTP APPROVAL.
THE PROPOSAL MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION TWENTY FIVE POINT ZERO SIX SEVEN OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH CODE OF ORDINANCES.
UPON REVIEW, THE REQUEST APPEARS TO CONFORM WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SECTION. THE FOLLOWING ITEM SHALL BE ADDRESSED UPON SUBMISSION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, A FULLY ENGINEERED CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS B A SUBDIVISION PLAN MEANING CHAPTER 177 OF THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE REQUIREMENTS AND A TITLE OPINION.
C THE RIGHT AWAY WITH THE MARYLAND BOULEVARD WILL NEED TO BE ONE HUNDRED FEET.
D THE ROAD NAME OF MARILENA BOULEVARD WILL NEED TO BE CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
STAFF WILL NOT SUPPORT THE NAME MARILENA EXTENSION BOULEVARD AND E THE TECHNICAL COMMENTS GENERATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT RESTAFF ATTACHED SHALL BE OBSERVED AND INCORPORATED INTO ENGINEERED CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION CASE FD ELEVEN TWENTY TWENTY ONE IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
SUCH STAFF COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THIS REPORT ARE BEING SAID.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS IN ATTENDANCE.
THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
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OH, THANK YOU, CHRIS.WELL, THE APPLICANT, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
THANK YOU. WHY CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT IS THIS ADDRESS IS TWENTY SIX FIFTY ONE MR. GAGNON BOULEVARD. AS ALWAYS, STEPH DID A GREAT JOB SUMMARIZING THE PROJECT.
THIS ONE'S BEEN IN THE MAKING.
WE HAD, OF COURSE, A SLIGHT DELAY WHEN THE ECONOMY DOWNTURN, BUT TO THE SUBDIVISIONS WERE DEVELOPED BY 06, 07.
AND SO THERE'S ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED RESIDENTS THERE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CLOSELY.
THIS BOARD HAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED US FOR THE COURTYARDS AND GARDENS, PHASE ONE.
AND THIS IS THE NEXT POD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR CYPRESS BAY, WEST PHASE ONE.
AS WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS, THE ROADS INTERNALLY WILL ALL BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS AND PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
WILL THEY EXTEND BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER THROUGH THAT? AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS IS THE EXTENSION OF MARILENA BOULEVARD. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT IS BETWEEN THEM, AND WE HAVE WORKED OUT A WAY TO STOP AT THE ROUNDABOUT THAT'S PART OF THIS PROJECT IN ORDER TO STOP THEIR MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO WE THINK WE'VE RESOLVED THAT TO HOPEFULLY TO THEIR SATISFACTION, BUT OF COURSE, HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM FURTHER.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING RIGHT NOW ON A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT MARILENA AND BABCOCK STREET THAT'S UNDER DESIGN AND WE PERMITTED THROUGH THE COUNTY.
SO THAT'LL BE ONGOING AS PART OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD.
THIS SPECIFIC SITE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AT ALL.
IT'S ALL UPLANDS. THERE'S NO ENDANGERED SPECIES OR ANYTHING ON IT.
WE DO ALREADY HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY APPROVAL ON IT.
THE DENSITY ON IT IS LESS THAN THREE UNITS PER ACRE.
WE'RE APPROVED FOR A MIX OF UP TO FIVE AND THEN UP TO TEN UNITS PER ACRE AND A PORTION OF IT. SO WE'RE WAY DOWN ON THE DENSITY, THE LOT SIZES.
WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE THEM DEEPER THAN WE HAVE IN A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS.
THEY'RE A HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE FEET DEEP JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE.
AND WE ARE REALLY WELL BUFFERED FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT I MENTIONED FROM THE 06 07 AND THE LAKES AND HEREN BAY.
WE HAVE LARGE PONDS AND BIG GREEN SPACE AREAS TO HELP BUFFER FROM THEM.
ONE CHANGE THAT KIND OF JUST CAME UP THIS AFTERNOON, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE CITY AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE FORWARD FASTER WITH PHASE TWO.
BUT WITH THAT PHASE TWO, WE'RE PLANNING TO DO A MUCH BIGGER, LARGER RECREATION AMENITY AREA. IT'S ALMOST FOUR AND A HALF ACRES.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO SAWGRASS LAKES AND WEST MELBOURNE, BIG CLUBHOUSE POOL OUTSIDE AMENITIES HAS A WATER SLIDE.
SO WHILE THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IDENTIFIES A CLUBHOUSE AND A POOL, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GO TO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE PASSIVE RECREATION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO FASTER TO HAVE THAT LARGER AMENITY AVAILABLE SOONER FOR THE FUTURE RESIDENTS HERE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE COMPLETELY COMPATIBLE WITH THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN FOR WATER STONE. WE'RE MATCHING WHAT WE ALREADY HAD APPROVED FOR THE PLUMERI DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FOR BOTH THE SELLER AND THE FOUR STAR DEVELOPMENT WHO WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SHE GETS TO RESPOND.
OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WISE, HEY, THIS IS CONFIRMED THAT YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING THE NAME.
YEAH, FOR THE NAME OF THE ROAD.
WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS AFTERNOON.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ONE MORE RUN AT THE ROAD NAME WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WORK WITH US THROUGH THE NINE ONE ONE SYSTEM.
THE NEIGHBORS AT HERRON BAY AND THE LAKES REALLY WANTED THAT NAME CHANGE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK.
BUT IF NOT BETWEEN THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION CHANGES AT THAT ROUNDABOUT, WE KNOW WE CAN STOP THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT SIMPLER.
AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL ALSO ASKED US TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE FINE WITH THE AGREEMENT, THE CONDITIONS EXCUSE ME, OF THE
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REPORT. BUT WE WANT TO TAKE ONE MORE STAB AT TRYING TO CHANGE THAT ROAD NAME.YOU HAD MENTIONED THE FIRST PHASE WAS GOING TO HAVE A SMALLER RECREATIONAL AREA, THE AREA ITSELF IS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME SIZE.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE PASSIVE THAN A CLUBHOUSE AND A POOL BECAUSE WE WENT TO A MUCH BIGGER CLUBHOUSE IN A POOL WITH PHASE TWO, WHICH WE'RE NOW MOVING UP TO A LOT COMING FORWARD WITH THAT A LOT SOONER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED.
YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU'D HAD COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS ALREADY.
YEAH, WE HAD A PERTAIN TO THAT CHANGE, THOUGH.
YEAH. WE HAD A ROUNDTABLE MEETING THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE CITY.
EVERY DEPARTMENT WAS REPRESENTED AND WE WERE WORKING THROUGH DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS AS WELL FOR THAT. AND ALL THAT WAS COMING VERY SOON.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ARE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION OR OPPOSED TO THE APPLICATION? NONE AT THIS POINT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE CASE F.D., DASH 11, DASH TWENTY TWENTY ONE, SUBJECT TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, OK, MOTION SEEKING.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, I ALL OPPOSED MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, JAKE.
12 TWENTY ONE FINAL PLAN, DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR A HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS CHAPARRAL PHASE THREE.
BACKGROUND PROJECT WILL BE LOCATED SOUTH OF AN ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD, SOUTHEAST AND WEST OF THE ADJACENT TO BRENTWOOD LAKES.
SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTIES PORTION OF TAX PASSELL ONE SECTION FOR TOWNSHIP TWENTY NINE RANGE THIRTY SIX, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
THIS PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY SIXTY EIGHT POINT EIGHT TWO ACRES OF LAND. BACK IN 2005, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS PART OF A LARGE PROJECT, 250 ACRES THAT WAS GRANTED PRELIMINARY APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS TO CONSIST OF SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THIRTEEN THOUSAND FIVE.
THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUESTED AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO ASSIGN THE DESIGNATION OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.
THE LAND USE REQUEST WAS APPROVED VIA ORDINANCE NUMBER TWENTY SIX THOUSAND NINETY THREE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE APPROVAL HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE.
ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2017, CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THE FINAL PLAN CODE FOR CHAPARRAL PHASE ONE ORDINANCE TWENTY SEVENTEEN DASH SIXTY THREE, WHICH INCLUDED EIGHTY TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. THE APPROVAL APPLIED ZONING TO THE NORTH, TWENTY EIGHT POINT SEVENTY FIVE ACRES OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY AND INCLUDED A MIX OF 40 FOOT AND 50 FOOT WIDE LOTTE'S OCTOBER 15, 20, 20 CITY COUNCIL GRANT AND PRELIMINARY PLAN, DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL AND TENANT ZONING FOR THE OVERALL CHAPARRAL PD PROJECT RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY TWO THOUSAND FIFTY THREE.
THE OVERALL PROJECT PROPOSES SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
SIX HUNDRED AND TWO ARE SINGLE FAMILY AND SEVENTY FIVE OR TOWNHOMES.
THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE FULL PROJECT COVERS TWO HUNDRED FOUR ACRES.
THE SIX HUNDRED AND TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ARE A COMBINATION OF 40 FOOT AND 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS. A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE TOWN HOMES.
ALSO, ON OCTOBER 15, 20 20, CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE FINAL PUDI FOR CHAPARRAL PHASE TWO ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY, DASH SEVENTY, WHICH INCLUDED TWENTY SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY LOTS 40 FOOT WIDE ON THIRTEEN POINT TWENTY FOUR ACRES.
FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL CONSISTS CONSTITUTES A REZONING ENACTED BY ORDINANCE.
THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS BINDING UPON THE LAND CONTAINED WITHIN THE PLAN.
CURRENT REQUEST IS FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT TO BE CALLED CHAPARRAL PHASE THREE.
IT WILL CONSIST OF ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN ARE 40 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND 58 OR 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
THE APPLICANT FOR THIS REQUEST, THE CHAPARRAL PROPERTIES LLC, THEY ARE REPRESENTED BY THEIR CIVIL ENGINEER, MR. JAQUISS OF CG ENGINEERING GROUP ANALYSIS CHAPEL.
PUDI WILL EVENTUALLY CONTAIN MULTIPLE PODS OR OR PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN AN OVERALL PUDI. VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISIONS WILL BE FROM MALABAR ROAD ONLY WITH THE NEW ENTRANCE TO ALIGN WITH THE STYRIA AVENUE NW.
PHASE ONE HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO STAND ON ITS OWN AND IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT OF WAY. DEDICATION FOR THE WIDENING OF MALABAR ROAD WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN PHASE ONE DESIGN. PHASE TWO WILL BE THE EXTENSION OF PHASE ONE BY THE CONTINUING DIABOLO CIRCLE SOUTHWEST AND CONNECTING IT TO ABILENE DRIVE SOUTHWEST, WHICH IS THE MAIN ROAD THAT WILL RUN NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH THE OVERALL PROJECT.
THE TWENTY SEVEN LOTTE'S WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF
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DIAVOLO CIRCLE. SOUTHWEST SANITARY SEWER IS GRAVITY FED TO AN EXISTING LEFT STATION IS PHASE ONE TRACK LS ONE, WHICH WAS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE SERVICE FOR PHASE TWO.LOTS OF PUBLIC WATER WILL BE PROVIDED TO EACH SLOT AND LOOP BACK INTO PHASE ONE WATER LINES WELL WITHIN ABILENE DRIVE SOUTHWEST.
AN ADDITIONAL STATION IS BEING ADDED TO THE PROJECT ADJACENT TO ABILENE DRIVE, JUST WEST OF THE TEMPORARY CUL DE SAC SHOWN ON SHEET C P DASH THREE OF THE PHASE THREE FTP.
THE APPLICANT'S DESIGN WILL EXTEND THE MAIN ROAD, ABILENE DRIVE FURTHER SOUTH AND TO FUTURE PHASES OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
THE CUL DE SAC HAS BEEN SHOWN SIMPLY AS A FAILSAFE INTERCONNECTED WHAT DETENTION PONDS WILL SERVE AS STORM WATER TREATMENT FOR ALL THREE PHASES WITH AN OVERFLOW STRUCTURE TO THAT DISCHARGES TO THE MOMENTUM AND CANAL NUMBER FIVE STORM WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM.
DESIGN FOR THIS PHASE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS PERMITTED BY THE CITY IN ST.
JOHN'S AND PARTIALLY CONSTRUCTED MASTER SYSTEM FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT INTERNAL ROAD NETWORK, WHICH IN ADDITION TO AVELING DRIVE SOUTHWEST, CONSISTS OF STAMPING CIRCLE AND DESERT ROSE COURT, WHICH WILL BE DESIGNED TO MEET CITY CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, THE ROAD ROADS BUILT WITHIN A 50 FOOT PRIVATE ROAD RIGHT AWAY WILL BE DEDICATED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CHAPARRAL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
CHAPARRAL PALM BAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY SEVEN TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN.
THE ORDINANCE TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN 08.
THE CD WILL DELIVER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND FACILITIES TO THE OVERALL PROJECT AREA. NO CITY FUNDS WILL BE USED TO PROVIDE THE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT. SECTION THIRTY FIVE POINT ZERO SIX FIVE OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES REQUIRES A PLANNING DEVELOPMENT TO PERMANENTLY SET ASIDE AND DESIGNATE ON THE SITE, PLAN RECREATION AND OPEN SPACES FOR USE BY RESIDENTS OF THE PUDI.
SUCH USABLE SPACES SHALL, IN THE FORM OF ACTIVE OR PASSIVE RECREATION AREAS.
COMMON AND OPEN SPACE SHALL BE IMPROVED TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY TO COMPLEMENT THE RESIDENTIAL USES. I MEAN THAYN AND MAY CONTAIN COMPATIBLE AND COMPLEMENTARY STRUCTURES FOR THE BENEFIT AND ENJOYMENT OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE.
THE OVERALL PUDI SUBDIVISION PLAN.
TWENTY FOUR TWENTY TWENTY PROVIDED A BREAKDOWN SHOWING THE MINIMUM SET ASIDE OF TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE ACREAGE OF THE CITY HAD BEEN MET BY A SERIES OF POCKET PARKS, A LINEAR TRAIL, A MASTER AMENITY AREA AND A PORTION OF STORMWATER PONDS.
IN THE GENERAL STATEMENT OF THAT PLAN WAS THE FOLLOWING.
THE MASTER AMENITY IS PROPOSED TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF THE TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINTH RESIDENTIAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND COMPLETED WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF COMMENCEMENT.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE BUILD OUT OF PHASE THREE.
HOWEVER, IT SHALL BE NOTED THAT NO SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT OF THIS MASTER AMENITY WAS SHOWN OR PROVIDED THEM, OR EVEN WITH PHASE THREE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMENTAL.
TO DATE, ONLY A SMALL TALLAGHT IS THE PROPOSED AT THE END OF DIABOLO CIRCLE FOR ALL THREE PHASES OF THE PROJECT IN REVIEWING APPROVED REQUESTS.
THE DEGREE OF THE DEPARTURE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT FROM THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE TERMS OF THE CHARACTER AND DENSITY SHALL BE EVALUATED.
FOR EXAMPLE, CHAPARRAL PUDI BECAUSE IT IS PREDOMINANTLY 40 FOOT WIDE AND 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS WHICH ARE CONSIDERED SMALL PLOTS.
THE DEVELOPMENT TRADE OFF FOR A COMMUNITY OF SMALL PLOTS IS TYPICALLY THE PROVISION OF ACTIVE RECREATION AREAS OR AMENITIES THAT CANNOT BE CANNOT BE ACCOMMODATED ON THE SMALL PLOTS THEMSELVES. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE SECTION HAS NOT BEEN MET. THEREFORE, THE THE SPECIFIC RECREATION AMENITY WILL NEED TO BE SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED AS A FUTURE FDP REQUEST, EITHER AS A STANDALONE SUBMENTAL OR AS PART OF THE NEXT PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT. THE CITY OF POMPEII'S GOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENT ESTABLISHED COORDINATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND APPROPRIATE JURISDICTIONS REGARDING DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WILL ACCESS A SECTION OF MALABAR ROAD THAT IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION AND OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR COUNTY.
THUS, THE OVERALL PUDI REQUEST WAS FORWARDED TO THE AGENCY REVIEW.
COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY WERE THE RESULTS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT RECOMMEND SIGNALIZATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF MALABAR ROAD AND EXCUSE ME, OF MALABAR ROAD AT THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND THE INTERSECTION OF MALABAR ROAD AND THE ENTRANCE OF CHAPARRAL PIERDE PROJECT.
THESE SIGNALS ARE RECOMMENDED TO BE INSTALLED AT THE COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS TO MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE CRITERIA.
DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE RECENTLY INSTALLED TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE ENTRANCE OF BRENTWOOD LAKES, PUDI AND THE TWO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC SIGNALS IDENTIFIED IN THIS STUDY, IT IS FURTHER RECOMMENDED THAT SIGNAL SIGNAL COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION NETWORK SHALL BE MADE A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND CONCURS WITH THE COUNTY'S ASSESSMENT REGARDING THE NEED FOR TWO TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND THE CITY AND COUNTY WILL WORK TOGETHER ON SIGNAL.
TIMING SHALL BE NOTED THAT PHASE ONE IS IDENTIFIED IN A TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE THE INITIAL
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TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.PHASE ONE THROUGH THREE INCLUDE A TOTAL NUMBER OF LOCKS THAT.
REPRESENT THE PHASE ONE DISCUSSED IN THIS STUDY.
THAT'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND WESTBOUND TURN LANE IDENTIFIED AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE STUDY ON PAGE TWENTY SIX WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT BEYOND THESE THREE PHASES COULD BE IN. HOWEVER, THAT STUDY WAS WRITTEN IN FEBRUARY OF TWENTY NINETEEN, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL PROJECTS APPROVED WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT AND MORE TRIPS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO MALABAR ROAD SINCE THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
THUS, THE CITY IS REQUESTING AN UPDATED TRAFFIC STUDY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AND TO FACTOR IN THE CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNT DATA.
WHILE IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL STILL BE REQUIRED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ABILENE DRIVE AND MALABAR ROAD.
THE TIMING FOR THIS INSTALLATION OF THE SIGNAL AND THE LENGTH OF THE WESTBOUND TURN LANE INTO CHAPARRAL SHALL BE REEXAMINED.
SUBMITTED AS A REQUIRED EXHIBIT FOR AN FTP IS THE PRIMARY SUBDIVISION LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE LANDS CONTAINED WITHIN THE TOTAL ONLY FORTY THREE POINT TO SEVEN ACRES, WHILE THE FTP COVERS SIXTY EIGHT POINT EIGHT TWO ACRES.
IT APPEARS THAT THE TWENTY FIVE POINT FIVE THE EXCLUSION OF THE LARGE OFF SITE POND NOTED AS POND II AND THE DRAINAGE REPORT AND THAT POND IN THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PLATTE TRACKS S-T SEVEN AND S-T SIX RESPECTIVELY ARE MUCH LARGER ON THE FTP THAN ON THE PLOT. THESE LAND SHALL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE SUBDIVISION, PLATT NOTED AS DRAINAGE TRACTS AND DEDICATED ACCORDINGLY TRACKED FIVE NOTED IN THE TRACT AREA TABLE ON SHEET.
ONE OF FOUR IS NOT PROVIDED ON ANY OF THE SHEETS CONTAINED IN THE PLOT SHALL BE SHOWN OR REMOVED FROM THE ABOVE TABLE.
THE OPINION OF TITLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT SUBMENTAL, NOR WAS THE DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS.
THE DECLARATION MUST BE SUBMITTED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS DURING ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND CONTAIN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BY WHICH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES WILL BE REVIEWED, I.E.
MINIMUM HOME SIZE SETBACKS, ETC..
LASTLY, TECHNICAL STAFF COMMENTS ARE ATTACHED TO THEIR SUPPORT CONDITIONS.
IN ORDER TO RECEIVE FINAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, THE PROPOSAL MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION TWENTY FIVE POINT ZERO SIX SEVEN ON THE CITY OF HOMS. CODE OF ORDINANCES UPON REVIEW.
IT APPEARS THE REQUEST IS CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SECTION SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WE ADDRESS PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THE RECORDATION OF THE PLAN ON THE BOUNDARY AND TITLE OPINION SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE CITY SURVEYOR. A RESTRICTION SHALL BE SUBMITTED FOR STAFF REVIEW, SLASH APPROVAL, SEE ALL APPLICABLE OUTSIDE AGENCY PERMITS MUST BE OBTAINED D CONCURRENCY DETERMINATELY DETERMINATION. A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD OF BREVARD COUNTY AND E THE MASTER MINUTI, WITH FULL DESIGN PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS, SHALL BE SUBMITTED BEFORE OR WITH THE PHASE FOUR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAFF RECOMMENDATION CASE FD TWELVE TWENTY TWENTY ONE IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THIS REPORT.
ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THE APPLICANTS AND INDEPENDENT WOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SURE, THEY STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 40 FOOT WITH.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE THAT NARROW? THERE ARE SOME OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT DO HAVE 40 FOOT WIDTHS.
THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK ON THE DEMAND OF THE 40 FOOT.
WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT GENERALLY MOST PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SMALLER LOTS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF LESS PROPERTY.
AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A MARKET FOR ANYTHING LARGER THAN A STANDARD LOT BECAUSE POMPEII HAS PLENTY OF STANDARD VACANT LOTS, WHICH ARE 80 BY ONE TWENTY FIVE.
SO IF THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A LARGER LOT, THEY COULD JUST BUY A REGULAR LOT.
NOT IN A RESTRICTED COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK ON THAT AS WELL IN ORLANDO, WHICH IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR MARKET, BUT NOT TO TOO FAR AWAY.
THEY HAVE MUCH, MUCH SMALLER LOFT AREAS.
THEY GO DOWN TO 20S AND 30S IN SOME AREAS.
I'VE GOT OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THE 40 FOOT LOTS OR.
HOW ABOUT DRAINAGE? BECAUSE I LIVE IN A 50 FOOT LOT AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT DRAIN HOUSES, STAY WET ALL THE.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BOTH A CITY STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS AND ST.
JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, ALL THE PONDS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THIS PROJECT ARE ALL INTERCONNECTED AND THEY CAN'T DISCHARGE ANY MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY HISTORICALLY DISCHARGING.
MR. WEISS CAN SPEAK ON THE FULL DESIGN OF THE SYSTEM, BUT THAT'S THE GIST OF IT.
HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS. WHAT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT SIGNALING IS MALABAR ROAD IS ALREADY
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OVERLOADED AS FAR AS ESPECIALLY AT THE PARKWAY AND IN THE ALABA.YOU CAN TAKE A HALF AN HOUR, FORTY FIVE MINUTES SOMETIMES RIGHT NOW JUST GO GET TO THE PARKWAY FROM MALABAR.
SO FOR THIS APPROVAL ON WHAT STAFF IS INCLUDED IS A RELOOK AT THE SIGNALIZATION TO SEE WHAT THE UPDATED TRAFFIC COUNTS, TO SEE IF THAT SIGNALS WARRANTED EVEN SOONER.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S WARRANTED AT THE END OF PHASE THREE COMPLETION.
AND WE WANT A NEW SIGNAL WARREN ANALYSIS TO SEE IF IT'S NEEDED EVEN SOONER.
THAT'S WHAT THIS APPROVAL IS, IF APPROVED, WILL MAKE IT REQUIRED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF JUST TO COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL COMMENTS ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS.
SO THE TECHNICAL COMMENTS WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF COMMENTS.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, CHRIS.
THANK YOU. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE, THE PREVIOUS PROJECT WAS 2004. THIS ONE'S BEEN SINCE TWO THOUSAND FIVE.
THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY A CD ON A PORTION OF IT, INCLUDING THIS PHASE THREE.
IT'S A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AS THE STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIED.
THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE CD, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF THAT.
AND SO THERE WOULD BE NO CITY FUNDS AT ALL WITH IT.
YOU ASKED ABOUT THE 40 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THAT.
PALM BAY HAS PROBABLY TEN THOUSAND EIGHTY FOOT WIDE BY ONE TWENTY FIVE FEET DEEP LOTS.
SO WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT BEING IN DEMAND.
IT'S 40 AND 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS BESIDES SETBACKS ON A 40 FOOT WIDE, LOT OF THE SAME AS A 50 FOOT WIDE LOT.
SO THE DRAINAGE IS ACTUALLY THE SAME.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE SMALLER FOOTPRINT.
SO THE WAY THAT WE GRADE AND DRAIN THEM IS THE SAME WAY.
THIS PARTICULAR MASTER PLAN SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY OVERSIZE FOR CITY AND STATE STANDARDS BECAUSE THE MELBOURNE TILLMANN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT HAS MUCH STRICTER REQUIREMENTS ON OUR ALLOWABLE DISCHARGE.
WHEN WE GO TO MELBOURNE TILLMANN WATER DISTRICT, CANAL NUMBER NINE FOR OUR OVERFLOW.
AS CHRIS MENTIONED, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS ALL INTERCONNECTED WITH A SERIES OF WHAT DETENTION PONDS AND IT HAS THAT SINGLE OVERFLOW.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS ONE IS THAT THE PERCENTAGE AND THE VOLUME OF STORMWATER IS A LOT BIGGER THAN IN A LOT OF OUR OTHER TYPICAL SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS A BENEFIT.
TRAFFIC'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT COMES UP EVERY TIME WE MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WE DO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS.
WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY IN TWENTY NINETEEN.
WE'VE AGREED WITH THIS PHASE TO GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN OTHER PROJECTS RECENTLY APPROVED AND MOVING FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS BROUGHT UP TO DATE.
PHASE ONE, JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, WE'RE RIGHT AT THE BRINK OF GETTING OUR FINAL OF CFC FINAL PLOTS APPROVED.
WE'RE JUST WRAPPING UP A COUPLE OF RIGHT AWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN THAT THAT PHASE WILL BE DONE. PHASE TWO WAS ONLY TWENTY SEVEN LOTS.
SO WE DIDN'T UPDATE THE TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A DE MINIMIS IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF NEW LOTS.
SO THAT'S WHY PHASE THREE NOW WE'RE UPDATING IT FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TODAY.
DURING EACH OF THE PREVIOUS TWO PHASES, WE'VE MET WITH AND WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST. MELBOURNE LAKES WEST IS, WELL, NOT IN THE CITY.
THEY DIRECTLY BACK UP SOME OF THEIR HOUSES TO US ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
AND SO WHAT WE DID TO WORK WITH THEM IS WE PUT OUR LARGER LOTS BACKED UP TO THEM.
WE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE DEPTH OF THE LOTS THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION THERE.
ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN FEET DEEP IN THAT AREA.
WE MADE A ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE FEET DEEP.
WE HAD AN EXTRA TWENTY FEET SO THAT WE COULD PULL THE HOUSES FURTHER AWAY FROM THEM, PROVIDE A BIGGER BUFFER.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TREES IN THAT AREA.
SO WE'RE PUTTING UP A FENCE ALONG THAT ENTIRE BOUNDARY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OFTEN SEE WHEN WE DO A NEW SUBDIVISION AGAINST ONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE IS THAT THE EARLIER SUBDIVISIONS THAT MET DIFFERENT STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS WERE HAD MUCH LOWER OVERALL.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, EVERY ONE OF THEIR FINISHED FLOORS IS EQUAL OR ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN OURS. SO THE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE TWO ACTUALLY WORKS OUT REALLY WELL, WHICH IS
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NICE. WE DON'T NORMALLY GET THAT BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS OF DIFFERENT TIMES.SO SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND THEN ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE DRAINAGE IS PICKED UP.
SO ALL OF THOSE LOTS ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY DRAIN TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
AND THEN THERE'S A COMMON SWELL RUNNING BEHIND THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY DRAIN BACK TOWARDS US AT ALL, WE PICK UP THEIR WATER AND WE TAKE IT AWAY SO THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY STANDING WATER BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO WE'VE DONE WHAT WE CAN TO WORK WITH THEM.
WE DO ALREADY HAVE OUR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY APPROVAL, WHICH IS ONE OF THE STAFF CONDITIONS, THIS WAS APPROVED AS A MASTER PLAN PREVIOUSLY.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS PHASE THREE OF A MUCH LARGER MASTER PLAN, AND WE'RE FULLY IN COMPATIBILITY WITH THAT.
BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER LOT SIZES, SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE RANGE OF AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE EXCUSE ME, WITH OUR DIFFERENT PODS, EACH POD HAS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL LITTLE WHAT WE CALL POCKET PARK.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LINEAR TRAIL SYSTEM THAT RUNS THROUGH ALMOST THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. PHASE TWO, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHICH WAS A TWENTY SEVEN LOTS, HAD A RECREATION AREA THAT INCLUDED TORT LAW, SOME EXERCISE STATIONS, SOME OPEN GREEN SPACE FOR A PLAY FIELD, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THIS PHASE IN PHASE FOUR HAVE A MUCH BIGGER COMMON AND MANY RECREATION AREA THAT, AS YOU SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE WILL BE FULLY DEVELOPING AND COMING FORWARD WITH THOSE PLANS, EITHER AHEAD OF PHASE FOUR OR DURING PHASE FOUR.
OTHER THAN THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WISE.
ONE. YES, SIR, UM, BUT AS FOR THE SMALLER PROPOSALS, WHAT IS THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE HOUSING? OH, I THINK THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE DECLARATION WAS TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, BUT I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
I BELIEVE SO. IT'S PART OF THE DECLARATION OF COVENANT'S.
LET ME JUST CHECK AND SEE IF IT'S ON THE DRAWING FOR A QUICK.
THE MINIMUM LOT AREA IS FORTY SIX HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA IS FOURTEEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN SQUARE FEET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION OR OPPOSE HIS APPLICATION? MA'AM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
HI, MY NAME IS BRENDA STRACHEY, I LIVE AT THREE ELISON DRIVE ON BAY, THAT'S IN MALABAR LAKES WEST. IT'S RIGHT IN THE VERY CORNER.
SEE WHERE THE WORD LOCATION IS.
THE VERY FIRST LITTLE YELLOW CORNER RIGHT THERE IS WHERE I LIVE.
WE REALLY ARE MORE ADJACENT TO CHAPARRAL THAN BRENTWOOD LAKES, AND THEY ALWAYS REFER TO LAKES BECAUSE THEY HAVE SMALLER HOMES, AS YOU SEE.
WELL, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE FROM THERE.
BUT OUR HOMES, IT'S ABOUT FOUR OF THEIR HOMES TO ONE OF OURS TO OUR LARGE SIZE.
IT'S GOING TO REALLY REDUCE OUR PROPERTY VALUE.
DEFINITELY ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.
OK, WHAT I WROTE, MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION.
I AM AN OFFICER OF MALAPA LAKES HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SO I AM ALLOWED TO SPEAK FOR THEM. I HAVE SPOKEN AT ALL OF YOUR MEETINGS.
I'VE BEEN HERE EVERY SINGLE TIME IN REGARDS TO CHAPARRAL.
MOST OF OUR CONCERNS THAT WE BROUGHT UP IN FRONT OF YOU HAVE YET TO BE ADDRESSED, ALTHOUGH MR. WISE DID HELP WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SWALE ON THE SIDE OF CHAPARRAL TO STOP WATER FROM FLOWING DOWN AND FLOODING INTO OUR BACKYARDS.
MY LAWN WAS A POND BEFORE THEY BUILT THAT SWALE.
SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT HE DID THAT AND HE HAD THEM FILL THAT IN.
HOWEVER, WITH THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS CONTINUE TO PILE OF DIRT AND VERY HIGH PILES.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF STRONG WINDS IN PALM BAY WHEN THE WIND BLOWS.
WHERE DO YOU THINK THE DIRT FLIES? IT LANDS DIRECTLY INTO OUR POOLS AND POOL FILTERS, WHICH ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE, AND I'M REALLY SICK OF HAVING TO CLEAN MY POOL DECK EVERY WEEK WHEN I REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. I DON'T SEE A REASON FOR THE DIRT PILES, BUT IF A BUILDING IF THEY'RE TRULY
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NECESSARY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF AREA FURTHER AWAY TOWARD BRENTWOOD LAKES AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF TREES BETWEEN THEM IN BRENTWOOD LAKES.THERE'S NOTHING BETWEEN THEIR LAND IN OUR LAND.
AND THEY AT LEAST PUT THE DIRT PILES BY THE BRENTWOOD LAKES SIDE SO IT DOESN'T REALLY FLY AND GARLAND AT LEAST LESS.
MR. WISE HAS INFORMED US THAT OUR MEETINGS, THAT A WALL WILL BE BUILT AND THAT SHAPIRO WILL BE GATED. I THINK LOANA IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN HOME BUILDER WE'RE ASKING AT THIS MEETING, COULD YOU PLEASE MANDATE THAT THEY PUT UP AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE BEFORE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION BEGINS? SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT ANYWAY, HE ALREADY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A WALL AND THEY BUILD IT NOW BEFORE OTHER HOMES ARE BUILT, BEFORE IT BOTHERS ARE QUIET OR PEACE, ARE, YOU KNOW, THE CLEANLINESS OF OUR AREA WHERE A SMALL DEVELOPMENT, LESS THAN 50 HOMES.
OTHERS HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER.
WE BOUGHT THE BIG PLACE FOR THE BIG LAND.
WE LIKE IT. IT'S PRIVATE, BUT THERE'S CONSTANT BEEP, BEEP, BEEP OF THE YOU KNOW, THE TRACTORS OF, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS FINE.
I UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION HAS TO OCCUR.
I KNOW THAT. BUT AT LEAST BE A LITTLE CONSIDERATE OF WHO ALREADY LIVES THERE AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT UP A WALL IN TWO YEARS ANYWAY.
PUT IT UP NOW AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF QUIET.
AND I KNOW, MR. WEISS, THAT PHASE ONE, THE HOMES ARE THEY'RE JUST STARTING TO BE BUILT PHASE ONE AND TWO, THERE'S JUST SOME SHELVES I HAVEN'T COUNTED, BUT IT'S 10 OR LESS.
SO THEY HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED THAT.
IF THEY BUILT THE WALL, IT WOULD DEFINITELY PROVE TO US THAT MR. WISE AND ALLANAH WANT TO BE FRIENDLY NEIGHBORS AND THAT THEY REALIZE HOW VERY MUCH OUR WAY OF LIFE IS GOING TO CHANGE DUE TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH AT A TRAFFIC.
SCHOOL, OH, MY GOSH, I'M GLAD MY DAUGHTERS TO BE A SENIOR NEXT YEAR, GOING TO HERITAGE, IT'S GOING TO BE RIDICULOUS AND NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL GET A BUS, IS THERE? IT'S LESS THAN TWO MILES.
SO THINK OF THAT. EVERY SINGLE CAR.
WE HAVE CHILDREN. EVERYBODY IN THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL BE DRIVING THE HERITAGE HIGH IF THEY GO TO HERITAGE. RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH ADDED TRAFFIC, MORE STOPLIGHTS, MORE NOISE, MORE POLLUTION, MORE OF A REDUCTION IN WILDLIFE.
YOU KNOW, WE USED DEER AND BOBCATS.
LASTLY, I TRULY DON'T KNOW WHY PHASE THREE IS UP FOR APPROVAL AT THIS TIME ANYWAY, AS I SAID, THEY'VE JUST BEGUN BUILDING HOUSE FRAMES ON PHASE ONE AND TWO.
REALISTICALLY, ELEANOR, IF IT IS AN HOUR, HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW FAST THOSE HOMES WILL SELL, AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP ALL OVER BOMBAY, DOWN HERITAGE PARKWAY. I MEAN, ALL OVER.
HOW DO THEY KNOW HOW FAST THE HOMES ARE GOING TO SELL THEIR.
OK, SO LET THE RESIDENTS OF MALABAR LAKES WEST ENJOY A LITTLE PEACE AND QUIET, WE HAVE LEFT ALL THAT WE CAN GET FOR A WHILE LONGER.
THAT THOUGHTFULNESS AND KINDNESS TAKE PRIORITY IN OUR SOCIETY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID YOU FILL OUT AN OLD CARD MAN OR DID YOU FILL OUT AN OATH CARD? YES. OK, THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, SIR? PLANNED FOR THE PODIUM, PLEASE EXTEND WHURLEY BOULEVARD WON THE DRAWING I WAS SEND EXTENDED MUCH FURTHER SOUTH THAN THIS AND WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE TREE LINE.
SO IS THIS NOT GOING DOWN THAT FAR? NOW. ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN WAS WHERE THE DRAWING YOU SENT ME FOR APPROVAL. NOT IN THE AREA OR WHAT? WELL, UP, MR. WISE.
AND SECOND, YOUR STATEMENT WAS THAT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT ST.
JOHN'S AND MALABAR IS CONTINGENT ON FINISHING THIS.
YOU EVER DRIVEN DOWN? HERITAGE AT THREE THIRTY IN THE AFTERNOON AND WAITED 30 MINUTES FOR EVERY CAR AND EVERY BUS TO LEAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL HERITAGE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OPENED UNTIL A LIGHT.
WAS THERE A METAL BAR? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WITHIN YOUR AREA, BUT THAT'S GOT TO GET FIXED NOW.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
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THEY WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND.THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS VERY CLOSELY, AS THEY JUST MENTIONED, THEY MENTIONED TO US THE DRAINAGE ISSUE.
WE TOOK CARE OF THAT RIGHT AWAY.
THERE WAS SOME DEBRIS LAST TIME WE MET.
THEY WERE OUT CLEANING UP THE DEBRIS.
THE PILES OF FILL WAS ACTUALLY AN ISSUE WITH PHASE ONE THAT WAS UNANTICIPATED.
THE PONDS WERE EXISTING PRIOR TO STARTING THE WORK ON PHASE ONE BECAUSE THE WORK DONE BACK IN 05, 06, AND WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WEREN'T DUG VERY DEEP.
SO WE ENDED UP WITH AN EXCESS AMOUNT OF FILL FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE THAT WE WERE PERMITTED TO PUT THE FILL.
SO WE DID HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THERE WERE SOME STOCKPILES THAT WERE JUST COMPLETELY UNANTICIPATED.
WE WORKED WITH STAFF AND WE GOT PERMISSION TO FILL IN THE FUTURE PHASES.
SO AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
BUT THERE ABSOLUTELY WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF WINDBLOWN SAND, DIRT COMING OFF OF THAT. SO WE DO WHAT WE COULD AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD, BUT THAT WAS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM. WE ALSO HAD CONCERNS WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE SEEDED AND HAD GRASS COMING UP AND VEGETATION ON THE AREAS THAT WERE EXPOSED.
AND WE TOOK CARE OF THAT RIGHT AWAY AS WELL.
WITH RESPECT TO PUTTING UP THE FENCE FIRST, THAT SEEMS ABSOLUTELY REASONABLE.
BUT FORTUNATELY, MY CLIENT COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE TONIGHT.
SO IF IT'S OK WITH THIS BOARD WILL RESOLVE THAT PRIOR TO COUNCIL WITH STAFF, BUT SEEMS A COMPLETELY REASONABLE REQUEST.
AND SO I'D LOVE TO SAY, YES, ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL DO THAT.
BUT IF IT'S MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION OF THIS BOARD, THAT'S COMPLETELY FAIR.
I JUST AM TEXTING THEM NOW AND I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET THAT THAT'S GOOD TO GO.
OK, I GOT AN OK OR GOOD FOR THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE RIGHT AWAY.
SO WE'LL DO THAT UP FRONT AND PHASE ONE.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES OUT THERE, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE THREE THIRTY AND WATCH THE HERITAGE TRAFFIC.
IT'S BAD. EVERYBODY COMES OUT AT ONCE.
YOU CANNOT MAKE A LEFT TURN COMING SOUTHBOUND OFF OF THE PARKWAY IN THE MIDDLE OF A ROAD.
AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CUT ACROSS.
THESE TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL BREAK UP THOSE TRAFFIC.
THEY'LL CREATE GAPS SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND MAKE LEFT TURNS.
RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT BRENTWOOD LAKES TO THE EAST.
SO AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE TO GET A LIGHT EITHER AT THIS PROJECT AND OR AT THE PARKWAY, THEN THAT WILL CREATE THOSE GAPS WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.
THE TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIFTH SLOT, WHEN WE UPDATE OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN A LOT SOONER.
JUST SO THIS BOARD IS AWARE, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO INSTALL TRAFFIC SIGNALS UNTIL YOU GO THROUGH A TRAFFIC WARRANT ANALYSIS.
SO EVEN IF I WANTED TO DO IT TODAY, I COULDN'T.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC WARRANT ANALYSIS APPROVED AHEAD OF BEING ABLE TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS NOW.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS UNDERWAY AND THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR PHASE THREE APPROVAL.
SO WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
THE BOARD MAY HAVE WON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WAS. THANK YOU, JAKE.
THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR EMOTION.
A MOTION TO APPROVE A CASE F D, DASH 12, DASH 20, 20, ONE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND ALL TECHNICAL.
THE TERMS ARE STATEMENTS MADE BY THE COUNTY AND ALSO THEY WANT TO ADD THE COMPLETION OF A WALL PRIOR TO COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE.
SECOND, I THINK ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I.
I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE, PLEASE, CHRIS.
OUR NEXT CASE IS CASE 13, 20, 21 BACKGROUND, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO GAYNOR DRIVE SOUTHWEST AND IN THE VICINITY OF NORTH OF OCEAN SPRINGS STREET.
SOUTHWEST SPECIFICALLY TRACKS SEA AND SEA POINT ZERO TO PORT MALABAR UNIT THIRTY TWO AND
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TAX PARCELS TO FIFTY ONE.RANGE THIRTY SIX OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
THIS PRELIMINARY PUDI REQUEST INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY SIXTY POINT TWO TWO ACRES OF LAND, TRACK, SEA AND SEA POINT ZERO TWO ARE PART OF PORT ALBAR UNIT THIRTY TWO AND HAVE BEEN PLANTED SINCE NINETEEN SIXTY TWO.
TAX PARCELS TO FIFTY TAX PARTIAL TO FIFTY ONE WAS EXCLUDED FROM THIS PLAN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES HAVE PRIMARILY BEEN USED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES AND HAVE BEEN VACANT SINCE THEIR CONCEPTION.
A PORTION OF TRACK C WAS SPLIT OFF IN TWENTY SIXTEEN SO THAT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME CAN BE BUILT UPON. IT ANNOUNCES THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO CONSIST OF CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION CALLED RICHMOND COVE PUDI PLAN.
UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS A CONCEPT WHICH ENCOURAGES AND PERMITS A VARIATION IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BY ALLOWING DEVIATION AND LOT SIZE, BULK OR TYPE OF DWELLINGS, DENSITY, LOSS, COVERAGE, SETBACKS AND OPEN SPACE FROM THOSE ELEMENTS REQUIRED IN ANY SINGULAR ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOUND IN THE CITY ZONING CODE.
SPECIFICALLY, THE PDP PROPOSES ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE UNIT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN ONE PHASE.
ARE THE PDP TYPICAL? LOTS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE 50 FOOT WIDE BY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR TO THE MINIMUM.
HOME SIZE WILL BE TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONSIST OF THREE ENTRANCES WITH AMENITIES NEIGHBORHOOD DOG PARK PASS, RECREATION AREA, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS AND A BASKETBALL COURT.
CONDITIONS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE PAWNI PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED PROPOSAL MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION TWENTY FIVE POINT ZERO SIX SIX OF THE CITY UPON BASE CODE OF ORDINANCES UNDER REVIEW.
IT APPEARS THAT THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION. SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING ITEMS BEING SUBMITTED WITH THE FINAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLOT AND BOUNDARY AND TITLE OPINION, B DEED RESTRICTIONS, ESTABLISHING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SEE AN AMENITY CENTER WITH A ALL THE SCHOOL CAPACITY TERMINATION LETTER FROM BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOLS AND E THE TECHNICALS COMMENTS GENERATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT RESTAFF SHALL BE OBSERVED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE FTP AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
SASAKI FOUNDATION CASE PG 13 TWENTY TWENTY ONE IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT STAFF'S COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THIS REPORT.
THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS IN ATTENDANCE.
WOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I'M BRUCE MOYAR, PRESIDENT OF MTV ENGINEERING, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT, ROLLING OUT A WHOLE LOT TO ADD AT THIS TIME.
I'M NOT SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE, SO I'LL PROBABLY SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER.
BUT CHRIS DID A GREAT JOB INTRODUCING THE PROJECT.
IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF GAYNER DRIVE, VERY SIMILAR TO THE PRD IS TO THE SOUTH OF US THAT WAS JUST CONSTRUCTED.
IT'S A. WE LIKE THE PODS AND HOPE YOU DO, TOO, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IT'S ALLOWED US TO PRESERVE OVER FORTY THREE PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY AND OPEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE AND WETLAND PRESERVATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME TALK EARLIER ABOUT SMALL ROBOTS, HAVING SMALL ROBOTS ALLOWS US TO PRESERVE TREES, WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL FEATURES OF THE PROPERTY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DENSITY COMPARED TO THE SURROUNDING, WE'RE ACTUALLY LESS ALL THE SURROUNDING LAND USE USES A RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS FIVE YEARS TO THE ACRE, THE SURROUNDING TO THE NORTH, EAST, TO THE SOUTH.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL DENSITY, IT'S ABOUT THREE UNITS OF THE ACRE.
WHEN YOU ADD UP THE LOSS OUT OF THE AREAS, ABOUT THREE NEWSMAKER, NO COMMENT.
OPEN SPACE, NO RETENTION PONDS, NO WETLANDS.
WE'RE AT TWO POINT SEVEN TWO POINT FOUR SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE.
SO WE'RE LESS THAN THE SURROUNDING.
WE'RE PRESERVING AS MUCH OF THE PROPERTY AS POSSIBLE, PRESERVING ALL THE EXISTING WETLANDS, VERY MINIMAL IMPACT AND PROVIDING FOR SOME COMMON, ACTIVE, OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS PASSIVE OPEN SPACE.
I'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAS ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
SO I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND SEE YOU ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME FROM THE AUDIENCE.
AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOYAR.
YES, HE'S UNDER FIVE PER ACRE.
DID THE LAND USES WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE LAND USE THAT STAYS THE SAME, THE LAND USE IN THIS AREA ALL AROUND THIS AREA IS AS RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS
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FIVE UNITS, THE ACRE MAX.WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING TWO POINT FOUR SEVEN.
THANK YOU. HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ISSUES.
OK. UH. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC WITH SEVERAL SPECIFIC COMMENTS, GAYNER, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A YOU DID A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC STUDY THERE SHOWING AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, ADT AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS UP, BUT THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE THE PROJECT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS BRIDGE.
RIGHT. AND THE EFFECT THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ON GAYNER, THE MAJORITY OF THIS TRAFFIC IS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TWO CHOICES.
THEY EITHER GO SOUTH TO TWO, ONE BORDIER TO GO TO BAY SIDE.
BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC FROM BOTH BAYRIDGE ON THIS PROJECT WILL BE HEADING NORTH TO THE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
AND THERE ARE ONLY A FEW WAYS TO GET THERE.
ONE IS BY GOING NORTH TO, UH, TO GARBERVILLE, MAINE, AND THEN GOING WEST TO GARVIE.
AND THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS THE TWO TO THREE STREETS THAT GO EAST TO DEGROOTE AND THEN GO NORTH FROM THERE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THIS THIS PROJECT ON THE LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE USING TO GET TO DEGROOTE TO GO NORTH.
I WE WE HAVE ALL WE'VE DONE IS INFORMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STATEMENT, WHICH SHOWS HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE AND THE AVERAGE DAILY IN PEAK TIMES, WE HAVEN'T ROUTED THAT YET. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY? WHEN WE GO THROUGH STAFF, AS WE COULD DO, WE WE ACTUALLY TAKE THOSE TRIPS AND WE ROUTE IT BASED ON WHAT'S EXISTING THAT WILL RATHER ACCOUNT TRIPS.
AND THEN THEY'LL GO OUT THERE AND THEN THEY'LL LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AND SEE WHERE MOST LIKELY TRIPS ARE GOING TO GO.
SOME WILL GO SALE, SOME WILL GO NORTH TO GO EAST, AND THEY'LL ROUTE THOSE THROUGH THE ROADS. AND THEN THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT TRIPPING ANY THRESHOLDS OR LOWERING ANY LEVELS OF SERVICE.
NOW. YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S AN ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE STREETS THAT WE CAN GO EAST ON.
YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS WERE ALWAYS DESIGNED TO BE A GRID SYSTEM, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY. IT WAS ENCOURAGED BECAUSE IT LESSENED TRAFFIC ON ALL ON, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKING ALL THE TRAFFIC TO ONE ROAD, IT DISPERSES IT THROUGH TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT REALLY ANYMORE.
EVERYBODY LIKES TO HAVE ONE ENTRANCE, ONE ACCESS.
EVERYBODY COMES IN, THEY PUT A GATE ON IT AND EVERYTHING COMES OUT TO THE MAIN ROAD.
SO IT WILL IT MAY POSSIBLY ADD SOME TRAFFIC TO THOSE EXISTING ROADS A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE TEND TO USE THE MAJOR ROADS TO GET TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AHEAD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE NO MAJOR ROADS TO GET TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING OTHER THAN I SAID THERE ARE TWO TO TWO ROADS THAT THAT, UH, GO EAST TO TO DEGROOTE AND ONE THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, GOES WEST TO GARVIE.
YOU KNOW, ALL THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO BAYSIDE LAKE SHOPPING, THE MAJORITY OF THAT TRAFFIC WILL BE GOING, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE GOING NORTH.
AND THERE ARE ONLY TWO WAYS TO GET THERE.
EITHER TO DO THE TWO ROADS THAT TO DEGROOTE OR THE ONE THAT THAT EXITS TO GARVIE WILL HAVE TO GO NORTH AND GORVY.
SO I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC STUDY.
YEAH. AND I THINK WHEN THEY DO THE CARS, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS DOING, HOW THEY'RE TRAVELING, THE ROADS AND THAT'LL ALL COME INTO COUNT.
SO THEY'LL SEE HOW THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE COME AND GO IN THAT AREA AND WE'LL HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
AT THIS POINT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? OPPOSED. EL.
GILBERTON, FIVE EIGHTY SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I'VE GOT EIGHT ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WITH THIS ONE, PLEASE.
THE FIRST ONE I DISAGREE WITH, WHAT MR. MOYAR SAID ABOUT THE RENT BEING ZONED RURAL, SAYING, I MEAN, SINGLE FAMILY RS2.
EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE LIVING ON THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT HE'S LOOKING OUT THERE, HE HAS TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE OTHER ONE.
OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY LIVING THERE, NOT THE VACANT LOTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.
OF THOSE RESIDENTS, 80 PERCENT OF US ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING LIVESTOCK OR AGRICULTURE.
THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH 50 FOOT LOTS FOR EVERYBODY THAT BUILDS AROUND US.
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THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. GO BACK ONE STEP WHEN THEY MAKE THE STATEMENT, IT IS MORE PRODUCTIVE TO BUILD SMALLER HOMES.WHEN 80 PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE ARE AGRICULTURE, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE WHO LIVE THERE.
THERE'S ONLY THREE RESIDENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THAT AREA LEFT.
THERE'S ONE THERE WENT TO THE SOUTH WITH THAT ONE AND THEN THE NEXT ONE DOWN, WHICH IS ON THE 20 ACRES THAT THE PATENT BILL RANCH IS ON THE PATENT BILL RANCH AREA.
THERE'S THREE RESIDENTS THAT OWN THAT.
WE ALL HAVE LIVESTOCK, STABLES AND RUNNING LIVESTOCK.
THE ROAD THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THIS MAP, ON THEIR MAP, BUT IT'S AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH.
NEVER USE AN OCEAN SPRAY, OCEAN SPRAY AS THEIR.
THE PROBLEM WITH OCEAN SPRAY STREET IS THAT IT'S A DEAD END ROAD.
AND WHEN WE'RE HOLDING BIG CONSTRUCTION LIKE THIS, THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS, THE DELIVERIES, THE SUBCONTRACTORS, THEY ALL WANT TO PULL UP ON US ON A SIDE LOT AND DO ALL THEIR WORK. I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY IF IT HAPPENS, I'D PREFER THAT IT DOES NOT GET CHANGED FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RS2.
THAT'S WHAT MY PREFERRABLE IS, THAT THE BUILDER PREVENTS SOMEHOW THAT THE DEVELOPERS, THE SUBCONTRACTORS AND ALL THE DELIVERIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE WORKERS THAT WANT TO JUST PARK OUT ON THE STREET, THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT AND THEY KEEP EVERYTHING CONTAINED TO WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY.
THESE SMALL PLOTS ARE GOING TO COME IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO SURROUND THE RESIDENCE, THE RURAL RESIDENCE THAT ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MAP, YOU'LL SEE THAT CENTER ISLAND THERE THAT SAYS NOT INCLUDED.
THAT RESIDENT JUST THREE YEARS AGO BOUGHT THAT WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT HE WAS BUYING INTO RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
AND, IN FACT, THAT WHOLE 20 ACRES.
WHERE IS THAT? RIGHT. THERE ARE 30 ACRES WHERE HIS DAD WAS SUPPOSED TO WAS DEDICATED RURAL RESIDENTIAL SELLING, FIVE ACRE LOTS PERSON COME TO THE CITY AND SAYS, I SEE THIS.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT. SO THEY START DOING IT.
THEY DID. THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
THEY BUILT THEIR HOUSE. THEY PAID THEIR STORMWATER FEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ARE MASSIVE IN AREAS LIKE THIS.
WITH THAT ASSUMPTION NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE SURROUNDED THE PERSONAL AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL, INSTEAD OF THEM SAYING THEY'RE BEING SURROUNDED 360 DEGREES BY RS2 TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.
THEY BOUGHT INTO THAT WITH THE ASSUMPTION KNOWING THAT THEY WERE BUYING ACREAGE.
ALL RIGHT. SO MY SUGGESTION IS, DO NOT APPROVE THIS.
THE OWNERS CAN STILL BUILD UNDER RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
THEY'RE ENTITLED TO BUILD ONE ONE HOUSE PER ONE ACRE.
THEY COULD PUT IN 60 HOMES, WHICH WOULD BE VERY NICE HOMES.
THEY'RE ENTITLED TO BUILD ON THAT.
WHAT I AM SAYING IS KEEP IT COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTS THAT DO LIVE THERE.
TRAFFIC ON GAYNER, IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY TEL.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF I CAN GET PHOTO NO ONE BROUGHT UP PLEASE.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THOUGH, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE NO PROBLEM.
YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THE STREET SIGNS THAT ARE ON THE STREET.
BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD ANOTHER ONE MORE TIME OF A PLANNED UNIT.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE STREETS THAT WE LIVE ON.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING, SO I PERSONALLY HAD TO PULL OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TODAY ON MY WAY HERE BECAUSE A TRUCK WAS COMING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
THERE WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE TWO OF US TO PASS ON GAYNER ROAD.
IT'S THAT NARROW. I HAD TO PULL LITERALLY MY PASSENGER SIDE WHEELS ARE OFF THE ROAD AND I PULLED OVER AND STOPPED SO THAT HE COULD GET BY BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME OTHER GARBAGE CAN WAS SITTING RIGHT ON THE SHOULDER AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE ON CLIPPING THAT.
SO I PULLED OVER, SLOWED DOWN AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED EACH OTHER AND WE SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT THAT WAS A NICE DRIVER.
I'M ALSO WATCHING THE DRIVERS THAT GO UP AND DOWN THIS ROAD WITH THE DUMP TRUCKS BECAUSE
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OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME IN.AND THEY'RE DOING 50 AND 60 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THAT ROAD.
AND THEY HAD WHAT WE CALL WHEN WE'RE OCEANGOING VESSELS, WE CALL IT RIGHT BY MIGHT.
IF I HIT YOU, I'M GOING TO DIE.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AND THE TRUCKERS KNOW THAT.
THEY STAY ON THE GAS PEDAL BECAUSE THEY KNOW EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GET OUT OF THEIR WAY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SELF-PRESERVATION.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, PICTURE NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.
WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE OTHER END, WHICH WAS BAYRIDGE WEST ON THE SAME GAYNOR ROAD, THEY HAD THE ROAD CLOSED OFF, SO THEY WERE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE FOR THESE NEW FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S TWICE THE SIZE OF THIS ONE, BY THE WAY.
TWICE THE SIZE YOU DON'T HAVE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
ALL RIGHT, SO TRAFFIC GAINER IS NOT CAPABLE OF HANDLING IT WITH THIS, AND IF THEY ARE, FIND SOME MECHANISM TO PREVENT THE TRUCKS FROM GOING AS FAST AS THEY ARE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROAD SALZ, IT LOOKS LIKE A SNAKE WINDING CITY DOES NOT OWN RIDE AWAY ON THE STREET, ON THE STREET.
SO THEY CANNOT FORCE THE PEOPLE TO TRIM THESE TREES BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT OWN RIGHT AWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
ONE MORE REASON WHY YOU CANNOT APPROVE REZONING AND BUILDING FOR THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. ITEM NUMBER.
FIVE THAT I OPEN UP, PHOTOGRAPH NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.
IT HAPPENED WHEN THESE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, THEY PULL UP ON THE SIDE STREETS AND USE THEM AS THEIR OWN PERSONAL PARKING LOTS.
THIS IS FROM BAY RIDGE WEST, WHICH IS ANOTHER BUILT SAME BUILDERS AS THIS WHITE ALL.
I MEAN, NOT HOLIDAYS. I WON'T EVEN SAY THE NAME BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER AND I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS MYSELF.
SAME BUILDER DID THIS ONE DOWN HERE.
BAY RIDGE WEST IS THE ONES THAT ARE DOING TO THE NORTH.
BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS ON THE SIDE STREETS WHERE WE LIVE.
WE'VE ONLY HAD OUR ROAD PAVED NOW FOR UNDER ONE YEAR.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, OH, THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO START GETTING DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, WHERE HAVE THEY BEEN FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS? WELL, ACTUALLY, THEY OWN THE LAND.
THEY SAID IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR 20 YEARS.
THEY'VE OWNED IT. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT, SAYING, WELL, WHY WASN'T IT I WASN'T ANYTHING BEING DONE, THEY OWNED IT.
I DON'T WANT THEM USING MY SIDE, MY SIDE STREETS.
I DON'T WANT THEM USING THE SIDE STREETS LIKE THIS THINKING IT'S THEIR PARKING LOT.
THEY CAN DO THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
WHEN I CHECKED THE CODING FOR RS2 RESIDENTIAL, FOR THE CODES, I GET THE CODES AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE REALIZE I ACTUALLY DO MY HOMEWORK.
IT WAS. EIGHTY FIVE POINT ZERO THREE ONE RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, AND THEN I ALSO LOOKED UP OUR TWO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS WERE ASKED TO RECOMMEND THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS. SEVENTY FIVE FEET BY 100 BY THE FACT THAT THEY'RE CLAIMING TO BE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY TO MINIMIZE THE SIZE OF THE LOTS THAT IS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED FROM AN ARTIST TO DEVELOPMENT.
ALL RIGHT, SO IF YOU KEEP IT AS RS1 THE MINIMUM SIZE, YOU CAN I MEAN, AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, THE MINIMUM SIZE YOU CAN HAVE IS ONE ACRE FOR AN HOUR.
AS TO THE MINIMUM SIZE IS SEVENTY FIVE FEET BY ONE HUNDRED, WHICH IS GOING TO INCREASE THE POPULATION.
OR ELSE TO FIVE POINT FOUR RESIDENTS PER ACRE COMPARED TO ONE RESIDENT PARADE.
THE RESIDENTS THAT BOUGHT INTO THIS AND HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES ONTO IT.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, LOOKING AT THEIR DIRECTIONS FROM THE.
CITY PLANNING. SAYS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A SWIMMING POOL.
I LOOKED ALL THROUGH THEIR DIRECTIONS IN THERE AND NO PLACE CAN I FIND A SWIMMING POOL FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT ON ME FOR THE CHANGING.
BUT IF THEY AREN'T PROPOSING A SWIMMING POOL, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T QUALIFY.
THEY DIDN'T PUT ONE IN AND THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA.
I WENT THROUGH THE BREVARD COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES THERE. SOME OF THEM ARE OUTSIDE THEIR TAX DELINQUENT FOR OVER THREE YEARS NOW.
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WHICH MEANS WE AS RESIDENTS, WE'RE PAYING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE PAYING FOR OUR ROADS, AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ALL IN THIS LAND HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING THEIR TAXES FOR THREE YEARS. SO I'M SAYING, WELL, LET'S SEE NOW.YOU WANT ME TO GIVE UP MY LIFESTYLE SO YOU CAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY YOUR TAXES.
YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN AND BUILD AND CHANGE MY LIFESTYLE.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WHO'S GOING TO PAY THOSE BACK TAXES THAT ARE DUE ON THIS PROPERTY? BUT THAT BEING SAID.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PREVENT LANDOWNERS FROM USING THEIR LAND, THEY BOUGHT THE LAND AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL. THEY'VE OWNED IT AS A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S EVEN BEEN SOLD RECENTLY AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
I AM SAYING KEEP IT RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
I'LL HAVE THESE BUILDERS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO STILL MAKE A PROFIT, STILL BUILD HOUSES, AND IT'LL STILL KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE WAY IT IS, THE WAY IT IS.
THANK YOU, BILL. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? AND. MY NAME IS DANIEL SMITH, I LIVE AT FIVE NINE EIGHT OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST PALM BAY.
AND A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO BRING UP, FIRST OF ALL, IS I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST THIS.
CODES AND ORDINANCES ALLOW FULL DISCLOSURE, I'VE BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY FOR 40 YEARS. I WAS A CONTRACTOR IN PALM BAY FOR 20 YEARS.
SO WHEN I SAY THIS, I WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THAT I'M LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.
FIRST OF ALL, WHAT MR. BATTEN SAID IS TRUE. THERE'S THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS CLOSELY, I'M ONE OF THEM, I LIVE IN THE WHAT WOULD BE THE FOUR TOP LEFT HAND CORNER RIGHT AT THE END OF OCEAN SPRAY STREET ON THE DEAD END ZONE, RURAL RESIDENTIAL. I AM ALONG WITH THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND ME, ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT TOUCHED THIS PROPERTY. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS DRAINAGE.
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT JUST HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.
WE GAVE UP, MEANING MY FAMILY GAVE UP EASEMENTS AND SOME PROPERTY FOR DRAINAGE TO THE CITY. BECAUSE THERE WERE NO EASEMENTS ON THIS PROPERTY WHEN I BOUGHT IT, IT WAS A UNIQUE ZONED PIECE OF PROPERTY, I WAS BLESSED TO GET IT.
SO I GAVE UP TWO EASEMENTS TO THAT PROPERTY, AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS NOW THOSE TWO EASEMENTS ARE THE MAIN DRAINAGE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE FROM GAYNER WEST.
SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT MY TWO AND A HALF ACRES AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE DRAINAGE? BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THIS 60 ACRES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LAND, IT'S EASY TO SAY, WELL, THE ONLY REASON YOU'RE PUTTING HOUSES WHERE YOU ARE IS SIMPLY BECAUSE THE REST OF ITS WETLANDS, YOU CAN'T USE IT.
CAN STATES NOT ALLOW COUNTIES NOT GOING TO? SO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IMPROVING THIS PROPERTY, I DO NOT SEE HOW PUTTING ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE CONCRETE SLABS, HOW MANY ACRES OF ASPHALT AND HOW MANY ACRES OF ASPHALT ROOFS, SHINGLED ROOFS.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTING THE DRAINAGE.
NOW, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY, LIKE MANY OTHER ONES AND MANY THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
THOSE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED SO THAT WE DON'T WIND UP WITH QUESTIONS AND ANGRY RESIDENTS LIKE YOU HERE ALL THE TIME GOING, MY PROPERTY WASN'T FLOODING TWO YEARS AGO. WHY IS IT FLOODING NOW? SO IT JUST NEEDS THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT AREA.
PERSONALLY, 50 FOOT WIDE, LOTS TO ME ARE OR JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE. YOU BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT, MR. WEINBERG, ABOUT TRAFFIC.
SO WE GOT OUR ROADS PAVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
IT WAS THE ONLY AREA IN THE CITY THAT WAS EVER WHERE THE CITY TRIED TO ASSESS THOSE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA AND ASSESSMENT FOR THEIR ROADS.
LUCKILY, IT DIDN'T PASS, BUT THEY TRIED.
WE GOT DECENT ROADS AND THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE NOW I'VE REALLY STARTED PAYING ATTENTION.
AS INCREASED BY AT LEAST TENFOLD OF JUST THE UNIT TO THE SOUTH AND THE FACT THAT GAYNER
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HAS BEEN PAVED NOW, IT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO I WAS IN A MEETING HERE WHERE THE CITY SAID THAT WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PAVING ALL THESE ROADS, THAT GAYNER ROAD WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A THROUGH A THROUGH ROAD THAT WAS STATED IN THIS VERY ROOM BY CITY OFFICIALS. SO IF IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE A THROUGH ROAD, THEN WHY IS IT A THROUGH ROAD NOW? WE HAVE ADDED FORTY NINE HOMES, ONE HUNDRED FORTY NINE EXCUSE ME, AT THE SOUTH END.AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE AT THE NORTH END.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S ONLY TWO WAYS EAST OUT OF THERE TO GAYNER AND YOU HAVE BOMBADIER AND OF COURSE YOU CAN GO TO GARVIE NOW.
THE AVERAGE HOME HAS THREE CARS ON TEENAGE KID, YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE THAN.
YOU CAN'T GET IT OUT OF BEKKER, YOU'RE NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING I'M FOR OR AGAINST IT.
I'M SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THAT BOTTLENECKED AREA BACK THERE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
OH. THAT'S NOT ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY, WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN ADDRESS IT NOW AND MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT THOSE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO TOTALLY IMPACT THAT AREA OF THE CITY. YOU BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER ABOUT MALABAR ROAD IN THE ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE DRIVE BACK THERE? YOU KNOW, I GO IN AND OUT OF THERE OCCASIONALLY, DEPENDING ON WHERE I'M GOING, SO.
WITH ALL OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE NOW.
FROM MALABAR ALL THE WAY TO ONE NINETY TWO AND THEN FROM MALABAR ALL THE WAY TO ELSMERE.
IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC NOW, WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN 30 YEARS AGO WHEN WE DIDN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT, WHEN THE ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY WAS OPENED UP, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT.
WELL, TRUTH IS, IT WAS 30 YEARS BEHIND THE TIMES THE DAY THEY OPENED IT UP.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS MUCH MORE TRAFICON.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, MAN? GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, ANNE-MARIE FRASER, FOUR OR FIVE, ONE OCEANSIDE STREET, I'M CURRENTLY BUILDING THEIR. TO JUST START OFF, I WILL SAY THAT I AM FULL DISCLOSURE AS WELL AS A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE, SO I'M A PROCUREMENT CONTRACTS MANAGER FOR A LOCAL CITY AS WELL AS I AM A FLORIDA REAL ESTATE AGENT AS WELL.
SO I WILL START OFF BY KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE HISTORY.
AND I JUST RECENTLY RELOCATED HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA.
SO AS FAR AS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SIZE OF LOTS, I KNOW WHAT I MOVED FOR AND I KNOW WHAT MY CLIENTS THAT I SELL AND RENT HOUSES TO ARE RELOCATING OUT OF MIAMI, FLORIDA AND FORT LAUDERDALE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS COMING UP, AS WELL AS ALL OF THESE SMALL LOTS. SO JUST TO TRAVEL BACK DOWN TO WHY I'M SPEAKING, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH OUR BUILDING, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT.
WHEN PALM BAY WAS INITIALLY PLOTTED, WELL PLOTTED BACK IN 1956, WHICH THEY FINISHED IN 1973, THE INTENT WAS FOR IT TO BE COMPLETELY SPRAWLED.
THERE WERE NO PARKS IN THE PLOT AND THERE WERE NO SCHOOLS IN THE PLATS.
ALL OF THAT CAME INTO FRUITION AS THE COMMUNITY STARTED TO GROW, AS PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE WITH FAMILIES STARTED TO COME, THEY ENDED UP HAVING TO INCORPORATE SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS AND PARKS WERE NOT INCORPORATED INTO THE PLANS.
AND THIS IS FROM RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE ON MY OWN, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A WHOLE IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
SO, AS I STATED, COMPLETELY BROAD, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT INTO THE WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE COMMERCIAL IN THE PLATS.
IF YOU LOOK BACK AS FAR AS 1956, COMMERCIAL WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
INDUSTRIAL NUTS WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
IT WAS FULLY PLANTED FOR RESIDENTIAL.
AND THE ONLY COMMERCIAL WAS AT MALABAR AND PALM BAY ROAD.
AN IDEAL CITY IS A CITY THAT IT HAS MIXED USE.
SO WHEN WE COMPARE IT TO ORLANDO AND MELBOURNE, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE THERE THERE MIXED USES, 50 PERCENT, 50 PERCENT, 50 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL, 50 PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, MAYBE A LITTLE OFF. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE PALM BAY WHERE 85, 15.
AND THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT WHEN I REACHED OUT TO ME, THE REPRESENTATIVE, AND THEY GAVE ME THEIR PROPOSED TRIP GENERATION STUDY, IT SAID ONE HOUR BETWEEN 4:00 P.M.
AND 6:00 P.M. SO I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY DRIVES THAT STREET.
GARVIE OR GAYNER, ONE HOUR BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX IS YOU CAN'T GET A TRUE DEFINITION OF WHAT KIND OF TRIPS THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROPOSE.
SO GOING BACK ALSO TO WENT TO THE WEBSITE, TO THE PALM BAY WEBSITE, THE CURRENT
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UNDERDEVELOPMENT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 15 SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND SIX THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW.SO WHEN I DID THE MATH, THAT IS ONE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN UNITS AND THEN UNDER REVIEW, WE'RE AT A THOUSAND THIRTY FOUR UNITS AS WE KEEP ADDING ON THE GROWTH OF DEVELOPMENTS AND WHERE AND EVEN AS I LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL.
SO A RULE, AN OLD RULE OF THUMB THAT I WAS THAT WAS MENTIONED TO ME BY A CITY OFFICIAL AND MY CITY THAT I WORKED FOR HIM WAS THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT A RESIDENTIAL TAXPAYER PAYS HIS TAX DOLLARS, THE CITY THEN TURNS AROUND AND PAYS APPROXIMATELY A DOLLAR FIFTY FOR THEIR SERVICES.
THAT INCLUDES PARKS, THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT INCLUDES UTILITIES.
THAT INCLUDES ALL THE SERVICES THAT THE CITY IS THEN RESPONSIBLE FOR, TO PROVIDE TO THESE PROPERTIES, FOR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF TAX THAT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PAYS FOR THEIR TAXES, THE CITY THEN APPROXIMATELY ONLY PUTS OUT 50 CENTS INDUSTRIAL FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT THEY PAY THEIR TAXES.
THE CITY APPROXIMATELY SPENDS ABOUT 25 CENTS FOR THEIR SERVICES.
SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, BUT AS MANY ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP AND WE'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO EQUAL THAT OUT BY BRINGING IN COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, WE ARE DOING OURSELVES A DISSERVICE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING GAS ON FIRE BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING OUT MORE MONEY, CONTINUOUSLY APPROVING ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
WE SAID HERE TODAY AND WE JUST APPROVED WE JUST APPROVED ALMOST SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX UNITS OF OF RESIDENTIAL.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO BE ABLE TO GET OURSELVES OUT OF THE HOLE.
WHEN WE START TO TALK ABOUT EVEN DOWN ON THAT STREET, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS.
LOOK HOW FAR WE ARE FROM A LOCAL GROCERY STORE, BAYSIDE LAKES PUBLIX WAS CREATED FOR BAYSIDE. WINN-DIXIE, PUBLIX IS ALL THE WAY OUT HERE, WAL-MART'S ALL THE WAY OUT HERE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ENCOURAGE FOR A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE, FOR PEOPLE TO GO BACK INTO THE STORE AND DOING ALL OF THIS WHEN WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A STORE FOR MILES BEFORE WE GET TO IT. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE GROWTH, BUT I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO RECONSIDER SOME THINGS, BECAUSE JUST HERE TODAY, WE'VE APPROVED TOO MANY UNITS.
SO DEFINITELY RECONSIDER HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE'RE DEVELOPING THE CITY.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO.
AND I'LL FILL THIS OUT AND BRING THIS BACK UP.
I LIVE AT THIRTEEN HUNDRED GAINER, I'M THE UN HIGHLIGHTED SPOT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYBODY. I AM NOT DOWN WITH THIS SUBDIVISION, OBVIOUSLY.
I MEAN, I BOUGHT FIVE ACRES TO TRY TO GET AWAY FROM EVERYTHING ELSE WHEN I BOUGHT MY LAND. ALL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOLD A FIVE ACRE LOTS AROUND ME, SO IT WOULD YOU WOULD CO-EXIST WITH THE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME MINDSET.
AND NOW AFTER I BOUGHT MY LAND, TOOK ME ABOUT THREE YEARS TO BUILD MY HOUSE, I BUILT IT BY MYSELF. AND WITHIN A YEAR.
AND SEE UP IN THE LEFT HAND CORNER ABOVE MY PROPERTY, THERE'S A LITTLE SQUARE THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE LIFT STATION IS GOING TO BE.
SO BASICALLY WHAT I GET TO DO IS I GET TO SMELL EVERYBODY'S FACES.
I COME OFF OF THAT WHENEVER THE WIND BLOWS FROM THE WEST.
I DON'T THERE'S THERE'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH OF A BARRIER IN BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING, LETTING PEOPLE USE FOR ALL THEIR WALK AREAS AND HOW WHAT DEFINES MY SPOT FROM WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING? I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREENERY AND WALKS RIGHT INTO MY MY PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY MY POND IN THE BACK, THAT'S THE DARKER SHADE THERE IN THE BACK.
I HAVE ABOUT ONE ACRE POND ON MY PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE FOR FISHING OR WHATEVER THEY FEEL LIKE DOING OR.
I JUST I THINK THIS SUCKS, SO MOST OF THE OTHER GUYS ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT THE ROADS, OBVIOUSLY PUTTING THAT MUCH MORE OF A STRAIN ON THE ROADS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES WE JUST GOT PUT IN, THAT THEY ALMOST TRIED TO TAX US FOR ACREAGE A LOT, FOR THE ROADS, FOR THE WHOLE ROAD, JUST THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT ONE UNIT AREA AS THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE ME ABOUT TEN TO TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN TAXES JUST FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO TRY TO PAY FOR THAT ROAD JUST BECAUSE I HAVE MULTIPLE ACRES.
SO IT'S BEEN A BIG FIGHT, JUST TRYING TO BUILD WHAT I HAVE OUT THERE.
AND I JUST I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.
I BOUGHT INTO A FIVE ACRE LOT EXPECTING FIVE ACRES AROUND ME, AND I'LL IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WAY. SO I'M KIND OF STUCK.
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SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? NOW, I WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING, BRUCE BABBITT, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, I COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS GLORIA THOMAS, I LIVE IN KOGURE.
I WAS ON THE STREET AND FIFTH OF THE POOL, WHAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING A POOL AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT.
BECAUSE THE MEDIAN WAS CALLING, I GET A FLIER, BUT WE WERE GOING TO GET A POOL IN THE AREA, BUT THERE'S NO POOL.
NOW, I FOUND OUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A POOL, BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SIDEWALK TO WALK. AND IS ALLOWED TO SEE PEOPLE COME HERE TO RETIRE.
AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO WALL STREET BECAUSE ON MY STREET, THEY DRIVE IN THERE LIKE. I-95.
SO I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHY WE CANNOT HAVE OUR ROAD, SOME OFF THE ROAD AND COLDREN IS NOT DONE LIKE. WELL, EIGHT, 10 BLOCKS, STREETS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY STREET I WAS TREATED SO RAGGEDY IS HORRIBLE.
SO I WANTED TO KNOW AT LEAST IF YOU ARE GOING TO SEE YOU FIX OTHER AREAS, WE ALREADY KNOW PROBLEM WITH THEM, WHY WE CANNOT HAVE A STREET REPAIR.
AND I THINK IT COSTS MORE TO PATCH AND JUST GO AHEAD AND TEAR THE ROAD UP AND GIVE US A STREET. I BUY A BICYCLE TO RIDE AND IT'S IN THE GARAGE BECAUSE THE ROAD IS TOO ROUGH.
SO PLEASE GIVE US THE SIDEWALK.
WE DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK TO WALK.
AND WHEN I LEAVE MIAMI AND RETIRE FROM JACKSON, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK.
WE GO TO BAYSIDE BAYSIDE, HAVE EVERYTHING.
IN BETWEEN. A COGENT BEFORE YOU GET I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STREET AGAIN, HALF OF US, WE CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK.
WE ARE NOT. I'M SEVENTY THREE.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M NOT FEEL LIKE I'M OLD.
I JUST BEGINNING TO RETIRE, YOU UNDERSTAND? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE I LEAVE MY CHILDREN, I HAVE EIGHT KIDS AND I COME HERE TO LIVE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO MIAMI BECAUSE EVERY BLACK IF THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT THE BLUE HORIZON. I COME HERE TO RELAX.
GIVE US A STREET. WE CAN WALK OUR DOG.
I HAVE TWO DOGS I DON'T WANT TO LOCK UP IN THE HOUSE.
AND KOVEN IS VERY DEPRESSING, SOMETIMES DEPRESSED.
FOR A WEEK I CAN COME OUT, BUT PLEASE LET US HELP US GET A SIDEWALK.
AT LEAST GIVE US A SIDEWALK THAT WE CAN WALK AND A LITTLE LIGHT LAST NIGHT TO WALK MY DOG I LOST FOR TWO HOURS.
I FORGET WHERE I WAS AND I'M TRYING TO GET ON MY PHONE.
GO GOD GIVEN ME TO GO OUT OF THE BAR WHEN I JUST LIVE ON KOGURE TILL I WALK.
AND I FOUND IT IS VERY DARK, IT'S VERY LONELY AND WE NEED HELP.
WE DON'T NEED I DON'T CARE ABOUT A POOL.
WE JUST NEED MORE SAFETY AND PLACE TO TO MEDITATE OUR MIND BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MENTAL HEALTH HERE AND THAT'S WHAT I COME.
I'M SORRY I MISSED THE FIRST, BUT IT'S A LOT OF US, NOT THE ONLY ONE, THAT YOUNG ONE.
WE ARE MENTAL BECAUSE WE LOCK UP IN THE HOUSE AND WE HEAR COVID, COBRA, COBRA, AND WE CAN GO PLACES WHERE WE USED TO GO EVERY MONTH.
I USED TO GO HAVE A PLAN TO GO FOR BALL ARE A SESSION IS NOWHERE TO GO.
PLEASE GIVE US SOME OF OUR TAX MONEY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, I CAN ASSURE YOU BY WAY YOUR ROAD WILL BE PAVED.
WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, BECAUSE I SEE THE PUT UP A SIGN THAT WE MUSTN'T PUT THE CAR ON THE SIDEWALK, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING GOING ON TO ROAD IS GOING TO BE REPAIRED VERY SOON.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THIS IS VERY LONELY HERE.
AND LIKE I SAID, MENTAL HEALTH IS THE WORST THING RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT.
AND SOME PEOPLE NOT TAKING IT, OUR PEOPLE DON'T TAKE MENTAL HEALTH, IT'S.
NOTHING WRONG WITH MS. A LOT OF MENTAL PEOPLE, THEY DON'T EVEN SAY HI TO THEM AND THEY LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOU ARE
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BOTH. AND I'M A HAPPY PERSON, I USED TO BE A NURSE.ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? LIKE TO RESPOND. YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK I HOPE THAT TOOK GOOD NOTES, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED. I'LL START AT THE I GUESS I'LL START AT THE TOP, SO THE FIRST SPEAKER CAME UP HERE AND TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RURAL RESIDENTIAL 360 DEGREES AROUND THIS AREA.
IT'S. ARISSA, TO THE NORTH, IS THIS AS FAR AS YOU CAN SEE? AS WELL TO THE EAST AND THE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH AND THEN SOUTH OF THAT IS PUDI AND THERE'S A SMALL ENCLAVE OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL, THIS PIECE AND THE PIECE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OCEAN SPRAY, AND THAT'S IT.
IT'S ALL THE SAME, IT'S ALL THREE UNITS, THE A.
IF YOU ZOOM THAT OUT ON THE AERIAL, IT'S SURROUNDED AND THIS IS A VERY SMALL ENCLAVE OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BOUGHT OUT THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BUY AN EGG AND ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THINGS CHANGE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE HERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT PROPERTY TO THE TO THE EAST, A LOT OF EMPTY LOTS WHEN THOSE LOTS BUILD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT GOING ON THERE AS WELL.
BUT THOSE ARE THREE UNITS, THE ACRE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
SO THAT'S WAY MORE DENSE THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN AMENITIES FOR OURSELVES SO WE WON'T BE BURDENING THE PARKS AND WON'T BE GENERATING TRIPS ON THE ROAD TO GO TO A PARK WHEN WE CAN JUST STAY IN OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT. SO OCEAN SPRAY SWEEPING A DEAD END.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND I HOPE THAT THE CONTRACTORS WILL NOT BE USING THAT FOR PARKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DESIGN THAT TO.
OBVIOUSLY, CONSTRUCTION IS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME AND IT'S A LITTLE BURDENSOME TO THE NEIGHBORS, BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S A NECESSITY.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE MORE RESPONSIBLE.
I AGREE. AND THEY SHOULD BE HELD TO TO WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
SO I'M HOPING THAT THE THE CITY INSPECTORS AND THE SUPERINTENDENTS FOR THOSE JOBS TO DO THAT AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE PARKING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE, OBVIOUSLY, WE WE WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND WE WE TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
I MEAN, WE ARE SURROUNDING THEM.
I MEAN, HE'S PROBABLY THE MOST AFFECTED PERSON IN THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR PLANE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WE PUT EVERYTHING AS FAR AWAY FROM HIM AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.
I MEAN, HE'S BASICALLY GOT IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME TO HIS NORTH.
IT'S ALL THE WETLANDS ARE GOING TO BE PRESERVED AT LAKES, GOING TO BE PRESERVED JUST THE WAY IT SITS NOW TO HIS WE'RE SURROUNDING THEM WITH BUFFERS TO HIS IMMEDIATE SELF IS A CITY DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT. AND WE'RE PUTTING AND WE'RE MAINTAINING THE WETLAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. SO HE'S SURROUNDED BY MOSTLY GREEN SPACE AND NOT BY OTHER LOTS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT HIM. WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT DRAINAGE.
WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO IMPACT HIM DIRECTLY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM HIM AS POSSIBLE.
IF THE LIFT STATION IS AN ISSUE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONSIDER RELOCATING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AWAY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN FROM HIM.
THEY ARE DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY WERE BACK IN THE DAY.
AND THE OTHERS AREN'T USUALLY A PROBLEM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO AND RELOCATING THAT FURTHER AWAY FROM HIS PROPERTY.
IT IS ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET AWAY FROM HIS LAST PROPERTY LINE, THE WAY WE HAVE IT. AND THEN HE'S GOT THE LAKE.
SO IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE HUNDRED FEET FROM HIS ACTUAL HOUSE. SO THAT'S PRETTY FAR.
IT'S A LOT FARTHER THAN IT'S GOING TO BE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD.
THE LIMITATIONS ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCES AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY LIVE IN, AND IT'S USUALLY NOT A PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S USUALLY, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN ONE HUNDRED FEET AWAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE STANDARD COMMENT FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT WE GO TO IN EVERY CITY AND THE COUNTY FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT BRING TO THE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LOCAL ROAD IS A CAPACITY EVERYBODY SPEEDS.
THE TRAFFIC MARKERS ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I HEARD I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE THAT THAT THE CITY CAN PUT THEIR THEIR
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TRAFFIC SIGNALS OR SIGNS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.THEY SHOULDN'T BE IT SHOULD BE THE RIGHT AWAY AND THEY SHOULD BE TRIMMING THE TREES SO YOU CAN SEE IT UNTIL THEY CAN ENFORCE THE SPEED LIMIT.
THAT'S THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
IN THE ENGINEERING WORLD, A TWO LANE ROAD HAS THE CAPACITY TO CARRY ABOUT 20 THOUSAND TRIPS A DAY EVERY ROAD, AND IT'S NOT.
WELL, THAT'S MY ROAD AND I DON'T LIKE IT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PUBLIC ROAD.
AND PUBLIC ROADS ARE MADE TO BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC AND THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY AND WE DO OUR ANALYSIS WHEN WE DO THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
SO THERE WAS ANY IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT ROAD THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
WE DO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T TRIP THE TRAFFIC AT THE LEVEL SERVICE THAT IS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY OF POMPEII AND ESTABLISHED BY THE COMPLINE.
TARA. SEE, I CAN'T EVEN READ MY OWN WRITING THAT WELL.
UM. THE THING ABOUT THE LIGHTS BEING SMALL, AGAIN, THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOT SIZE BEING SMALLER BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T BUYING THOSE LARGE. LET'S LOOK TO THE EAST.
YOU'VE GOT 80 BY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE FOOT LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR DECADES THAT NOBODY'S BUILDING ON.
THEY LIKE TO BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY DON'T WANT BIG LOTS.
THEY WANT SMALL LOTS. AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE NOT THE NATURE OF THE PROPERTY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO WE REDUCE THE LOT SIZE AND HAVE EVERYTHING BE COMMON AS OPPOSED TO EVERYBODY HAVING THEIR OWN LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE PIECE OF PIE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TAX DELINQUENCY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY BUY THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THE BACK TAXES AND THE CITY IS GOING TO GET THEIR TAX BASE MAINTAINING DRAINAGE.
AND THAT WAS THE GENTLEMAN AT THE LARGE LOT AT THE END OF OCEAN, THE OCEAN SPRAY.
HE DOES HAVE A VERY LARGE LOT.
AND HE IS ALSO PROBABLY THE HE'S THE SECOND MOST IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE DO ABOUT HIM. WE DID PUT AN OPEN SPACE CORNER UP THERE BY HIS PROPERTY.
SO WE DIDN'T PACK THE LOTS UP AGAINST THEM.
AND WE PUT A 20 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, ALONG THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE SOUTH SIDE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN DRAINAGE AND JAKE ACTUALLY SAID IT VERY WELL EARLIER, THAT WE ARE I MEAN, WE'RE BORDERED ON THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE BY A DITCH CANAL OF SOMETHING CANAL AND THE ENTIRE NORTH BOUNDARY BY A CANAL.
SO BECAUSE WE'RE A BUDDING MELBOURNE TILLMANN, WE'LL BE DISCHARGING ABOUT A TENTH OF WHAT'S WHAT'S DISCHARGING CURRENTLY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE A MAJOR REDUCTION BY TENFOLD OF WHAT WE'RE DISCHARGING FROM OUR SITE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STORE IT ALL ON OUR SIDE BEFORE WE DESTROY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THE DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITING OUR ACTUAL DISCHARGE TO ABOUT 10 TIMES LESS THAN WHAT'S DISCHARGING THERE NOW.
AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL GO INTO OUR LAKES AND BE DIRECTED AS OPPOSED TO WHATEVER IT DOES NOW, WHICH JUST GOES WHEREVER IT WANTS TO GO.
SO WE'LL BE CHANNELING IT TO THE PONDS AND THEN DISCHARGING IT DIRECTLY INTO THE CANAL.
SO THEY'LL BE SHOULD BE NO DRAINAGE PROBLEMS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
I DON'T KNOW IF GAYNOR WAS OR WAS NOT EVER DESIGNED TO BE A THREE ROAD, IT IS NOW.
I THINK IT WAS PLOTTED ORIGINALLY TO GO TO CONNECT THE WAY IT CONNECTS.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT ON THE NARROW SIDE, BUT IT'S NOT UNUSUAL.
THE. YOU KNOW, MANEUVERING AROUND TRASH CANS, I HAVE TO DO IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME, I PULL UP CARS COMING ALL THE WAY UP TO STOP.
I MEAN, IT HAPPENS IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, PROBABLY IN THE COUNTY.
AND A 20 FOOT ROAD IS NOT IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THE ONE LADY MENTIONED THAT SHE CALLED OUR OFFICE AND TALKED ABOUT P.M.
PEAK TRIPS, THE WAY TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE DONE.
AND THIS IS BASED ON THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF STUDIES DONE BY THE INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.
PEAK FROM FOUR TO SIX IS THE PEAK TIME FOR TRAFFIC ON ANY ROAD ANYWHERE.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE THE THE CRITERIA THAT THEY REQUIRE.
SO WE CONCLUDED THAT IN OUR REPORT.
SO YOU SEE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S ESTABLISHED REALLY BY THE CITY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU GUYS ESTABLISHED THE CITIES.
WHAT THE IMPACT FEE RATE IS FOR TRANSPORTATION, YOU BUILD, YOU PAY A FEE, ISD COLLECTS THE FEE. ISD CREATES PROJECTS TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF ALL THE ROADWAYS IN THE CITY.
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AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.SO DEVELOPMENT'S SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THAT IMPACT.
SO IF IF TRAFFIC IS HAPPENING DUE TO DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY IT'S KIND OF I DON'T SAY IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE SYSTEM HOW IT'S SET UP. YOU PAY INTO THAT FEE SO THAT WHEN YOU GUYS GET ENOUGH MONEY, YOU YOU IMPROVE THE ROADWAYS, YOU IMPROVE THE INTERSECTIONS, YOU PUT UP LIGHTS, YOU ADD LANES, YOU ADD ROADWAYS. AND THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
SO IT'S REALLY NOT JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY ALL DEVELOPMENT.
SO IS PALM BAY GROWING? ABSOLUTELY. AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ROADS GETTING FIXED ARE GETTING FIXED BECAUSE YOU GUYS JUST COLLECTED ALL THAT ROAD REPAIR MONEY.
SO THAT'S ALL HAPPENING, TOO, AS WELL.
SO SO WHEN KANER GETS PAID, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL YOU'LL HAVE A NICER ROAD OUT THERE.
AND THE LAST ONE WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SPOKE ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
APPRECIATE THAT, BUT SIDEWALK TO WHERE? WAS IT GOING TO GO THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS ANYWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWHERE, THOUGH, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO ON THE SIDEWALK THAT GOES TO NOWHERE? IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SERIOUS THOUGHTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALK PROGRAMS IN THE CITY.
BUT SIDEWALKS TO NOWHERE DON'T BENEFIT ANYBODY.
SO IF IT'S PUT IN INTERNAL WALKWAYS IN OUR SUBDIVISION SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO THE AMENITIES. BUT AS FAR AS WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE'S JUST NO SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA.
SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN BE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
WE REALLY WANT TO GET UNDERWAY.
THIS IS PRELIMINARY PUDI ONLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE COMING BACK FOR FINAL AND WE'LL BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HOPE I ADDRESSED EVERYTHING ADEQUATELY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER THOSE.
NOW, THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOYAR.
I'M SORRY YOU ARE HAVING HAVING A POOL.
NO, WE'RE NOT SHOWING A POOL ON THE PLANE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT POOL CAME FROM.
I WASN'T INVOLVED IN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DON'T SEE A POOL ON THE PLANE.
OK, I THINK IT WAS THE CONDITIONS HERE FOR YOU THERE WAS THAT HE HAS, IN ADDITION TO THE CITY, HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT IT.
YES, THAT WHAT THE CITY WANTS A POOL.
WELL, BASICALLY, I GUESS THIS IS COMING UP AT THE.
OH, OK, THE THE MORE FINE, IF THAT'S WHAT WE PROMISED THE CITY, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GIVE THEM. IF WE TOLD THEM WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THEM A POLL, THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU A POLL.
I DIDN'T I'M SORRY, I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE PLANE, BUT IF IT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE STUFF.
IT IS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THEIR CONDITIONS AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OK, OK, THANK YOU.
AT THIS POINT, A CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION BEFORE IT BEFORE THEN MAKES A MOTION.
UH. I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT AT THIS POINT.
I THINK I THINK THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO WORK OUT AND A LOT OF THINGS TO DISCUSS AND A LOT OF THINGS WORK OUT WITH THE CITY BEFORE THIS NEVER COMES TO FRUITION.
AND I'LL LOOK, I APPRECIATE I KNOW THIS AREA WELL, AS BILL BRATTON KNOWS.
AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE CAN'T STOP THE OWNER FROM DEVELOPING HIS PROPERTY.
AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW, I HAPPEN TO BE RETIRED REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS.
I UNDERSTAND REAL ESTATE MARKETS.
NO ONE, NO ONE IS GOING TO BUY ONE ACRE HOMES.
THERE'S NO MARKET FOR IT, ESPECIALLY IN PALM BAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, HOMES ON SMALLER LOTS, THAT IS THE CURRENT AND THAT IS THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, I COME FROM SOUTH FLORIDA AND, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THERE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS ARE SMALLER LOTS, SOME EVEN SMALLER THAN 40 AND 50 FEET.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MARKET DRIVEN.
YOU KNOW, IF THE MARKET WASN'T GOING TO BUY IT, IT WOULDN'T BE BUILT.
SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, EVEN THOUGH I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL AND I WILL SUPPORT IT.
SO WORD CAN I GET A MOTION? I WOULD JUST WANT TO WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATEMENT, BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE MARKET IS DRIVEN.
BUT WHEN I WHEN MY CUSTOMERS WANT ONE ACRE LOTS AND THEM TO GRANT MALABAR, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT THAT LIFESTYLE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE CONCEPT OF HAVING SOMEWHERE TO FARM AND STUFF.
SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE MARKET IS DRIVING A MAJORITY AND THEN YOU'RE RIGHT.
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BUT TO SAY NOBODY WANTS IT, THAT'S OK.THAT'S SOMEWHAT OF AN EXAGGERATION IN TERMS OF.
BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, THERE'S NOT A GREAT MARKET FOR IT, ESPECIALLY IN BOMBAY.
RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, SIR, PLEASE. UM, I WILL HONESTLY SAY WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, I FIRST THING I THOUGHT WAS WHERE WOULD THE PEOPLE WANT TO GO? AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M ALSO BIG ON TRAFFIC, AND ESPECIALLY IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, LIKE A FIRE OR A HURRICANE OR THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO.
IT IS AN OPINION IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGE.
I BELIEVE THAT IT NEEDS TO STAY R AND R.
AS A GENERAL RULE. AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE COMMENTS WAS WHICH WAS BIG WITH ME ALSO WAS THE FUNCTIONAL WETLANDS.
SO THAT'S ALSO, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD, EVEN EVEN WHEN YOU START BUILDING THINGS ON THERE, THAT IS JUST GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, PERIOD.
SO. WAS WHERE WERE THE COMMENTS THAT I NEEDED TO MAKE ABOUT IT IN? SO THERE'S NO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
OR DO I STILL NEED EMOTION? IS LET ME ASK IS, CAN WE? AND CAN WE? WE TABLE IT AND WAIT FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT IN OUR PURVIEW, OUR CITY COUNCIL CAN DO THAT, BUT BUT NOT TYPICALLY ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE DONE LATER AND WILL BE SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THE WITH THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR PURVIEW, REALLY.
SO MUCH MORE THAN A TRAFFIC STUDY.
I THINK IT'S NOW WHAT IT IS IN THAT.
IT MAKE IT IN A NEGATIVE OR WE HAVE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE PD 13 20 ONE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, THAT EMOTION IN A SECOND? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I ALL OPPOSED NAY, NAY.
WE HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
A MOTION FAILS BY A VOTE OF THE ORDER TO.
OUR NEXT CASE, PLEASE, UH, MR. BRADLEY.
BRADLEY, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO 14, 20, 21 AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 178 SIGN CODE TO MODIFY THE DEFINITION OF WOLFSHEIM TO ALLOW THEM TO BE LOCATED FIVE FEET ABOVE THE PREDOMINANT ROOFLINE AND TO ADD A NEW DEFINITION FOR WAYFINDING SIGN TO MODIFY DEFINITION OF WALL TO INCLUDE WINDOWS AND DOORS IN THE AREA.
CALCULATION MODIFYING APPENDIX, A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, APPENDIX B.
INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS TO MODIFY WALL SIGNS AND ADD WAYFINDING SIGNS OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. PREPARE THIS TEXT.
THE AMENDMENT IN RESPONSE TO A WORKSHOP HELD BY CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 11, 2021, REGARDING INCENTIVES AND INDUCEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY.
AT THE WORKSHOP, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF SEVERAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY THAT DO NOT HAVE FRONTAGE ON MAJOR ARTERIALS, ARTERIALS OR MAJOR COLLECTORS, WHICH HAVE REQUESTED SIGNAGE THAT WOULD ASSIST DRIVERS TO FIND THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS FURTHER.
STAFF IS ALSO SEEKING TO AMEND THE REGULATIONS REGARDING WALL SIGNS AT THE REQUEST OF SEVERAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY.
THE RATIONALE FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO FIND AND LOCATE BUSINESSES NOT LOCATED ON MAIN ROADS.
THIS IS SEEN AS AN INCENTIVE TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY.
FURTHER CHANGES TO THE WALSON REGULATIONS WILL SIMPLIFY AND MAKE MORE CONSISTENT REGULATIONS REGARDING ROLL SIGNS ANALYSIS.
SECTION ONE SEVENTY EIGHT POINT EIGHT IS DEFINITION SECTION OF SIGNS.
IN TOTAL, THREE DEFINITIONS ARE PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED.
THE FIRST IS TO MODIFY THE DEFINITION OF WALL SIGN.
THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL PERMIT ALL SIDES TO BE LOCATED UP TO FIVE FEET ABOVE THE PREDOMINANT ROOF LINE.
THE SECOND CHANGE IS THE ADDITION OF A NEW DEFINITION TO CREATE A TYPE OF SIGN, A WAYFINDING SIGN, EXAMPLES ATTACHED THE WAYFINDING SIGN WOULD ALLOW ESTABLISHMENTS NOT
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LOCATED ON AN ARTERIAL OR MAJOR ROAD SEE LIST OF ROADS BECAUSE I ATTACH THE LIST OF ROADS TO A PLACE, A WAYFINDING SIGN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, ON THE ARTERIAL OR MAJOR COLLECTOR WITH WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, PROVIDED THE SIGN WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN ONE HALF MILE, TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY FEET OF THE ESTABLISHMENT PROPERTY COLOCATION OF ESTABLISHMENTS ON WAYFINDING SIGN SHALL BE ENCOURAGED.THE THIRD DEFINITIONAL CHANGES, HIS DEFINITION OF WALL, THIS CHANGE WOULD SIMPLIFY TO INCLUDE DOORS AND WINDOWS RATHER THAN EXCLUDE THEM FROM WALL AREA, THUS MAKING IT EASIER FOR BUSINESSES AND STAFF TO CALCULATE THE AREA.
THIS CREATES A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF WALL SIGNS AS DOORS AND WINDOWS ARE NOW INCLUDED IN THE WALL AREA CALCULATIONS.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MAKES TWO TWO IDENTICAL CHANGES TO APPENDIX A SIGNS IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND APPENDIX B SIGNS IN ZONING INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE SUMMARIZED BELOW. THE FIRST CHANGE MODIFIES THE TABLE REGARDING ALL SITES.
SPECIFICALLY, THE NUMBER OF WOLFSON'S IS ELIMINATED IN FAVOR OF A MORE SIMPLE MAXIMUM 10 PERCENT OF ALL AREA CALCULATION FOR ALL WALL SIGNS.
FURTHER, THE TABLE IS MODIFIED TO ALLOW WALL SIGNS TO BE LOOKING UP TO FIVE FEET ABOVE THE PREDOMINANT ROOF LINE FOR BUILDING FACADES WITH MULTIPLE HEIGHTS OR ROOF LINES.
SECOND SERIES OF CHANGES TO THE TABLES IS TO ADD THE PROVISIONS FOR WAYFINDING.
SINCE THIS CHANGE REQUIRES WAYFINDING, SIGNE'S BE LOCATED ON ARTERIAL OR MAJOR COLLECTOR ROADS NO LESS THAN 1500 FEET APART.
HOWEVER, ONE SIGN IS ALLOWED ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE ROAD, WHICH DO NOT HAVE TO BE 100 FEET APART. THE WAYFINDING SIGNS WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF 36 SQUARE FEET AND A MAXIMUM OF 10 FEET IN HEIGHT HAVE SET BACK OF 10 FEET FROM PROPERTY LINES.
THAT THE PARCEL OF THE SCIENCE LOCATED ON THESE STANDARDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FREESTANDING SCIENCE STANDARDS FOR OTHER COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES AS WRITTEN TO INTENSIFY BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO FIND AND LOCATE AND TO SIMPLIFY THE REGULATIONS FOR WALL SIGNS.
THE TEXT, THE TEXT IS ATTACHED ALONG WITH SOME EXAMPLES, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. IN SUPPORT OF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BRADLEY. NOT A COUPLE, PARTICULARLY WITH WAYFINDING SIGNS.
THERE'S THERE'S A LIMIT OF 36 SQUARE FEET PER WAYFINDING SIGN NOW, AND YOU PROVIDED A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES, WAYFINDING SIGNS, WAYFINDING SIGNS CAN ADVERTISE ON BUSINESS OR THEY CAN ADVERTISE NUMEROUS BUSINESSES.
THERE'S NO LIMITATION ON THAT.
THERE'S ALSO THERE'S ALSO NO THERE'S ALSO NO REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OTHER THAN SIZE SHAPE OF THE SKIN COLOR OF THE SIGN TYPE OF SIGN.
WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, SIGN REGULATIONS ARE VERY TRICKY, WE CAN ONLY REGULATE TIME, PLACE AND MANNER. THERE ARE THINGS RELATED.
THERE'S A LOT OF SUPREME COURT DECISIONS RELATING TO SIGNS WHERE THEY HAVE TO REMAIN CONTENT NEUTRAL. SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REALLY DICTATE THE CONTENT OF THE SCIENCE.
WE CAN ONLY REALLY REGULATE THEIR LOCATION, PLACEMENT AND SIZE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S WRITTEN IN THAT MANNER.
AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I GOT A QUICK ONE, I KNOW IT WAS SPOKE ABOUT IN THE PAST ABOUT PEOPLE PUTTING SIGNS ON PROPERTY WHERE THEY DID NOT HAVE A BUSINESS.
IS THIS GOING TO IS THIS GOING TO CORRECT SOME OF THAT ALSO? OR I CAN SAY, THOUGH, SO THERE YOU SEE IT AROUND TOWN, SOMEBODY HAS A SIGN ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY ADVERTISING THEIR COMPANY, BUT THEY DON'T THEIR THEIR BUSINESS IS LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT DOES HAPPEN ON VACANT LOTS.
THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF WILL, IF THIS SIGN IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY'LL REMOVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED A SNIPING SIGN.
BUT IF SOMEBODY PUTS A SIGN ON A VACANT LOT, THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO GO AFTER THE PROPERTY OWNER AND TELL THEM THAT THAT'S FINE.
IF IT'S NOT ON FOR A BUSINESS ON THAT SITE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
WE DON'T ALLOW SIGNS ON VACANT LOTS, BUT WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO IN AND FORCE AGAINST THE OWNER OF THOSE A LOT. SOMETIMES THOSE SIGNS ARE PLACED OUT THERE WITHOUT THE OWNER'S CONSENT. THAT'S WHY WE ALSO HAVE WRITTEN HERE.
THE OWNER HAS TO GIVE WRITTEN CONSENT FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THE SIGN.
THAT'S WHY I WAS. YEAH, IF THEY HAVE WRITTEN CONSENT.
YEAH, IF THEY HAVE WRITTEN CONSENT FROM THE OWNER, THEN THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THIS REGULATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
OK. HAVE YOU HAD A QUESTION, UH, WINNER? OH, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST ONE OF THE EXAMPLES, IF YOU CAN GO FILL UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
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CHINA THE OTHER WAY.THAT SIGN THERE WITH MULTIPLE.
I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE GOING.
YOU'RE A LITTLE IMITATION IS ON THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE SCIENCE CAN ONLY BE THIRTY SIX SQUARE FEET. SO YEAH, IT HAD MULTIPLE BUSINESS, MULTIPLE BUSINESSES.
YOU HAVE NINE AGENCIES ON EACH SIDE, CAN ONLY BE FOUR SQUARE FEET.
SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THIS LARGER THAN WHAT SOMEONE COULD HAVE ON THEIR OWN BUSINESS LOT.
SO WE 36 IS IS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT AN INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS CAN HAVE FOR THEIR MONUMENT SIGN. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT LARGER THAN THE MONUMENT SIGNS THAT BUSINESSES COULD HAVE. BUT SINCE THIS IS FOR REALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LOCATED ON THE ARTERIAL OR MAJOR COLLECTORS AND IF THERE'S MULTIPLE BUSINESSES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF OF ECHOLOCATING, SO TO SPEAK.
I KNOW YOU HAD A QUESTION, HE PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT.
HE KIND OF ANSWERED IT IN A SECOND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
OK. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. OK, BOARD, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS APPLICATION? YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR EMOTION AND EMOTION, PLEASE.
THROUGH. FOURTEEN, TWENTY, TWENTY ONE.
ON SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AY, AY.
OK, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY, NO OTHER BUSINESS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
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