[CALL TO ORDER]
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I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR REGULAR MEETING OF 2021, DASH SIX FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.WE'LL DO ROLL CALL. CHAIRPERSON PERSON LESLEY BYRD IS VICE CHAIRPERSON LILA MORASH.
AND BY PHILIP SNYDER, PRESIDENT.
WE ARE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NONURGENT ITEMS AT THIS TIME.
IT'S OUR NEW BUSINESS FOR TONIGHT IS TO DISCUSS THE 20 20 SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, AND
[1. 2020 Sustainability Action Plan Development Discussion]
WE ALL RECEIVE THAT EMAIL TO READ AND MAKE OUR EDITS.I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR DISCUSSION TO CONTENT, AND IF THERE'S GRAMMATICAL OR JUST SPELLING OR, YOU KNOW, PUNCTUATION, ANY CHANGES YOU WANT TO MAKE LIKE THAT, YOU CAN EMAIL THEM DIRECTLY. SO CHANGING IN MAJOR CHANGES.
THE WORDING OF THE CONTENT OR MAJOR CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT NOT NOT NECESSARILY GRAMMAR.
MY FINGER ON IT. WOULD THIS BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME? IT'S PERTAINING TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.
YES, IF IT'S PERTAINING TO SOMETHING ELSE, IT WOULD GO UNDER OTHER BUSINESS.
IT. THE QUESTION PERTAINS TO THE LAST SECTION AND MY QUESTION IS.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE TO READ THE PLAN.
IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FINALIZE NIGHT, THOUGH.
I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH NICOLE WITH SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS, NOT INSTRUCTIONS, BUT SUGGESTIONS, AND ALSO AT OUR LAST MEETING WE ALL HAD COMMENTS.
NOW, WHEN I GOT THIS PLAN TO LOOK AT.
THEY DID NOT SEE THE COMMENTS I HAD MADE TO NICOLE IN IT, AND ACTUALLY IT HAD CHANGED DRAMATICALLY FROM THE ORIGINAL DRAFT.
SO I JUST AM NOT UNDERSTANDING I DON'T THINK THE PROCESS BETWEEN THE COMMENTS THAT WE MAKE HERE IN THE MEETING, THEN THEY GO TO NICOLE OR IF WE MEET WITH NICOLE, IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S SOME TIME LAG.
OR ELSE THE COMMENTS ARE BEING CHANGED TO WHERE I DON'T RECOGNIZE THEM.
WITH THE WORDING THAT WE USED.
WELL, WE DON'T ADDRESS THAT A COUPLE OF THE COMMENT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE.
THIS SECTION IN THE LAST MEETING, I WENT THROUGH ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE FROM MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN I GAVE THE NOTES AT THE END OF ALL THE COMMENTS, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WHEN I SAID THIS, SUSAN SAID SUGGESTED THIS, THIS, THIS.
YES. I REMEMBER THE MULTIPLE OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT NOW AND NOTICE THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD MADE IN OUR MEETING.
THEY ARE REFERRED TO IN ABOVE ELEMENTS, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST MEETING. THERE WAS REFERENCES TO THE ENERGY BUILDING SECTION, WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE TO DO THE OVERSIGHT.
BEFORE THAT, WE HAVE TO INTERVENE, BEFORE THE DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY DEVELOP COMMENTS LIKE
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THOSE ONES. THEY ARE UP AND ABOVE ELEMENT.SO I DIDN'T FEEL THE NEED TO PUT THEM IN THE EDUCATION SECTION AND THEN THE RESOURCES, SUCH AS A CARNITA BUILDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT THERE IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT.
NOW, BECAUSE I FELT THAT WHEN IN THE LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BETTER FIT. THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT MORE THAN THAT ONE PAGE.
THE YEAH, I SENT IT OUT TO BRITTA AND SHE SAID IT TO EVERYONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MENTIONING A FEW THINGS THAT I DON'T THINK ARE IN THAT ONE PAGE, BUT I HAVE THEM IN MY NOTES. BUT IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT, THEY'RE PROBABLY WORDED IN ATTENTION.
SO THE ONLY OTHER THING THEN IS IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT I GOT WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THIS BOARD, THE SECTION ON EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT LOOKS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT, AND I'M JUST I'M CURIOUS PARTLY I NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
THAT THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT WAS SCRAPPED AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES ON THAT SECTION, BECAUSE PHILIP REWORKED IT, IT HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED AND SO HE REWORDED IT.
WE SENT IT OUT BEFORE THE MEETING.
THEN WHEN WE CAME TOGETHER, WE DISCUSSED HIS VERSION OF THAT SECTION.
I MISSED THE SCRAP PART OF IT.
OK, SO THEN THIS IS MY COMMENT AFTER GOING THROUGH.
THE DOCUMENT AND READING IT, A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENED THIS WEEK IN MY LIFE.
WELL, LAST WEEK WE MET WITH, YOU KNOW, BRITTA IS ENCOURAGING US TO PUT A PERIOD TO THIS DOCUMENT AND GET IT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
THE REASON IT'S GOING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS SO CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE AND IMMEDIATELY, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BEGIN TO PUT IN OUR OUR REQUEST.
IT SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, THIS DOCUMENT OR OR WE'RE PIECING TOGETHER THREE YEARS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT TIMES AND DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, AND WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW CITY COUNCIL. SO WE REALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEIR TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF SUSTAINABILITY IS OR THEY HAVEN'T REALLY CHARGED SPECIFICALLY US.
I WANTED TO BRING BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT THE IDEA OF NARROWING THIS CONSIDERABLY SO WE COULD FINISH IT.
AND THE WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO FOCUS IN ON EACH SECTION IS BROKEN INTO.
THE CITY AND THEN BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE FOCUS ON THE CITY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE'RE GOING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND ASKING THEM TO APPROVE THEIR THEIR FIRST LINE, SO TO SPEAK, TO THE FIRST EXPOSURE, THE PLAN, THE FIRST ASK FOR THINGS TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
I WAS TOLD BY JOAN BROWN THAT WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHEN CITY COUNCIL GETS THIS AND APPROVES IT, THEN THEY OPEN IT AND THEY TAKE OUT THE SECTIONS AND DIVIDE IT TO THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES AND DEPARTMENTS.
AND IMMEDIATELY THOSE DEPARTMENTS START INCORPORATING IT INTO THEIR BUDGETS.
IF WE RECOMMEND A PARTICULAR PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES FUNDING OR STAFFING, THEY NEED THAT INFORMATION NOW BECAUSE THE BUDGET PROCESS IS ONGOING NOW.
SO I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT WE FOCUS IN ON THE CITY GOALS AND MAKE THEM IT SEEMS LIKE MANY OF THEM ARE REALLY DOABLE, LIKE HYDRATION STATIONS.
I LIKE THE WORDS, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORDS ARE NOT.
AFTERWARDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE EXPLORE OR LET'S SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, MAKEM ACTION WITH AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH AN ACTION ITEM, WITH THE RESULT.
I THINK IF WE STARTED IN MY MIND, IF WE STARTED WITH THE CITY, THAT WOULD GIVE US AN EASIER WAY OF PRESENTING THE PLAN AND POSSIBLY AN EASIER BITE OFF THIS HUGE AREA OF
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SUSTAINABILITY. I GO AHEAD AND AND RESPOND, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK YOU HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD, VALID POINTS THERE.AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T SAY STRUGGLED WITH, BUT I HAD TO NAVIGATE COMING ON IS YOU KNOW, SUZANNE, I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
RIGHT. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A PLAN THAT IS, YOU KNOW, HAD AMAZING PEOPLE WORKING ON IT.
BUT IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A ROTATION WITH THE PARTICIPANTS INVOLVED.
AND THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE. AND I THINK IT'S PARTICIPANT LIKE YOU, SUSAN, WHO'S I MEAN, TO KIND OF TAKE THE BATON TO THE VERY END, HOPEFULLY.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE WE LOOK AT AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T EXACTLY HOW I WOULD HAVE DONE IT.
THIS IS IT. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF IF I IF I WAS A ONE PERSON SHOW OR IF I WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. BUT I THINK PERSONALLY THAT WE WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE CREATING A PLAN FOR THE CITY, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT BOTH, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESSES AND WHAT WE LIKE RESIDENTS TO BE DOING.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, I THINK VERY PRACTICALLY THERE WOULD BE MORE REWORK INVOLVED IF WE WERE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES THAT YOU INDICATED AS FAR AS NARROWING THE SCOPE. I THINK THAT'S USUALLY COUNTERINTUITIVE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE THINKING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, IT WOULD TAKE LESS TIME IF WE NARROWED THE SCOPE. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT IT WOULD TAKE MORE TIME.
THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE, ALTHOUGH I DO AGREE THAT I'D LOVE TO.
AS WE GO THROUGH THE REVISION TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE REMOVE SOME OF THOSE SOFT WORDS YOU INDICATED INTO MORE ACTIONABLE TERMS THAT CAN HAVE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THEM. I'M REALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD CALL OUT THAT I'D LOVE TO IMPLEMENT TONIGHT AS WE AS WE DIG IN. IT WAS JUST MY THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RELATE AND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. YOU. I ASKED SUSAN, WHAT DO YOU FEEL IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS GOALS THAT MAKE THEM? HARDER TO WORK THROUGH THAN THE GOVERNMENT GOALS, SINCE THEY'RE ALL ALREADY WRITTEN OUT.
THINK OUR CITY RIGHT NOW IS IN A VERY UNIQUE TIME.
AND THE TIME IS THAT THE EMPHASIS IS ON RAPID DEVELOPMENT.
AND AND DEVELOPMENT OF COMMUNITY UNITY, PARTNERSHIPS WITH BUSINESSES AND AND COMMUNICATION, THERE'S A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON COMMUNICATIONS AND PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER.
WHAT APPEALS TO ME IN ABOUT JUST FOCUSING ON THE CITY IS TO LAY BASICALLY AN INFRASTRUCTURE LESSLIE THINGS LIKE WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS GOING TO ASK THE CITY, WE WANT TO BE A STAKEHOLDER IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE WANT TO BE INTERVIEWED AS THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO GET ACROSS.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE.
ALSO TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL IF WE CAN BEGIN A LIAISON, BEGIN A COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF FINDING OUT WHAT IS ALREADY GOING ON IN OUR CITY. AND WHAT DO THEY NEED? I THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT RATHER THAN SUGGESTING THINGS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE.
IT'S OUR COMMUNITY IS STILL DEVELOPING, I WOULD I WOULD, INCLUDING THINGS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESSES PREVENT THE CITY FROM DOING THAT.
DOING WHAT I SAID, HOW WOULD HOW WOULD LEAVING OUT THE OTHER HOW WOULD PRESENTING ALL THREE OF THEM TOGETHER PREVENT THE CITY FROM STARTING WITH? WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO START WITH.
TO ME, IT'S A DISTRACTION IN READING THE PLAN, IT'S TOO MUCH.
YES. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE THE CITY IS STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THERE IS IF WE ACCOMPLISH NOTHING ELSE THAN TO HAVE THE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ONGOING THAT DEAL WITH GROWTH AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AND ZONING, JUST HAVING THOSE COMMITTEES START TO INCORPORATE SUSTAINABLE IDEAS TO THAT IS HUGE BECAUSE IT'S AT THE VERY BEGINNING THROUGH WHICH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THE CITY BUSINESS IS.
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YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS WORLD IN PALM BAY ISN'T QUITE FULLY DEVELOPED YET EITHER.THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AS WE'RE WORKING HERE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES.
SO BEFORE WE DIRECT THINGS TO ONGOING BUSINESSES, I THINK.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE BEGINNING, THE.
THE PORTAL THROUGH WHICH THEY GO THROUGH.
THE 2000 THE 2010 PLAN FOCUSED EXCLUSIVELY ON THE CITY, AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO INCORPORATE OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER ENTITIES RATHER THAN JUST THE CITY.
AND SOMETHING I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING, SUSAN, BUT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT ALL ELEMENTS CAN BE INCORPORATED.
I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S BROAD.
AND WHEN YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GIVE THE CITY DIRECTION OR, YOU KNOW, OK, OBJECTIVE NUMBER ONE OBJECTIVE TO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
YOU START WITH. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OK, LET'S START WITH LEI'S ON THE DIFFERENT BOARDS.
WHAT WHAT YOUR GROUP SEEKING TO SAY IS THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM SOME SORT OF ACTION PLAN, AS IT WERE, ALTHOUGH THIS IN ITSELF, BECAUSE YOU HAND THIS OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND I CAN TELL YOU THE FIRST QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK, OK, SO WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? WE START WITH ALL OF US HERE, PROBABLY BECAUSE WHEN WE STAND UP THERE, WE ARE PRESENT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT TO ANSWER.
AND SO ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S NICE, I KNOW OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE AND I KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD.
SO I BELIEVE EVERYTHING HERE CAN WORK AND I WANT TO STILL INCORPORATE THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S HARD TO DO IT IN ISOLATION, LIKE, OK, LET'S FIX THE TOP AND TRICKLE DOWN.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S AND THIS ARE THE BEST APPROACH.
I THINK THE CITY IS BIG ENOUGH AND AS ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.
BUT WE NEED TO GIVE IT SOME DIRECTION SO THAT WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL GETS THIS, THEY CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED TO START THIS WAY.
AND THE COUNCIL THEN THE BOARD IS RECOMMEND THAT WE START WITH MAKING SURE THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE BOARDS ALREADY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING.
WELL, THAT THAT COULD BE THE BRIDGE BETWEEN WHAT I'M SAYING AND I THINK WHAT THE OTHERS ARE WANTING TO PRESENT MORE OF A FULLER PLAN.
AND I'M I'M DOWN TO SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT BRANDING AND EXACTLY THAT.
IF I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION, WHERE DO YOU START? HERE'S THE PLAN, I WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
AND PART OF IT WOULD BE WE NEED TO START SHOWING UP AT THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
WE NEED TO BE COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SAYING WE WANT TO TALK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT ANNUALLY, MONTHLY, QUARTERLY.
BUT THAT TO ME IS A PART OF OUR PRESENTATION.
SO BUT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO EXCLUDE THE THE COMMUNITY.
IT DOESN'T EXCLUDE THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF IT.
THE CITY, I THINK IS ITSELF CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.
BUT SOME SENSE OF DIRECTION IF I EVER WANT TO IF I CAN OFFER A SUGGESTION AS THE BOARD EVOLVES IN THIS DISCUSSION AND YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK CHAIRWOMAN, YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK FOR A VOTE IF YOU WISH TO CHANGE DIRECTION AND HAVE A CONSENSUS ON WHERE YOU NEED TO GO FORWARD.
SO I WOULD CALL THEN FOR A VOTE ON WHETHER WE CONTINUE TO REVISE THE PLAN AS IT IS OR WE BREAK IT APART INTO CITY.
GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS AND INDIVIDUALS.
YOU HAVE TWO PIECES TO THAT LESLIE WROTE ON THAT, BUT ALSO HAVE MAYBE ADDING A SECTION LIKE KAY WAS SAYING OF SOMETHING IN OUR PLAN ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION OR A GUIDE OR WE HAVE TO LIKE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON ONE AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
SO IF IT YOU KNOW, IF IF THE VOTE WOULD NOT GO THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD WANT, THEN YOU COULD PROPOSE TO DO, YOU KNOW, TO ADD SOMETHING.
AND I WOULD ADD THAT IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT.
AND WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH IT, IT'S NOT DONE.
AND WHEN WE'RE ALL GONE, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL REPLACE US.
AND AS WE AS IT IS LIVING AND WE PRESENT IT, WE DON'T PRESENT IT IN A VACUUM, BUT WE DO ENGAGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE LIKE YOU'RE WANTING TO DO.
SO I WOULD CALL FOR THAT VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT AS IT IS AND WORKING WITH IT MOVING FORWARD. RATHER THAN BREAKING IT APART, WE SAY.
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THERE'S THREE. AND I GET TO WRITE.I'M SORRY, WHAT A DUMB QUESTION, BUT I KNOW.
AS IT STANDS, THEN THE BOARD WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS IT IS, AND WE WOULD COME AND DISCUSS HOW WE PRESENT IT AND ENGAGE WITH THE THE CITY ON PRIORITIZING.
AS WE GO AND IN MANY OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS FROM THE OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE THE SAME KIND OF STRUCTURE, BUT THEY ALSO INCLUDE METRICS WHICH WE'VE WE SAID, OK, DOWN THE LINE, WE HAVE TO WORK ON THAT.
THEY ALSO INCLUDE WHEN YOUR GOALS TO YOUR GOALS, THREE GOALS AND YES, ON THE DOWN THE ROAD. WE HAVE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TO IMPLEMENT IT.
BUT THIS AND BE THE DOCUMENT WE BEGIN WITH WHEN WE HAND IT OVER.
YOU THEN SAYING WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AS PRESENTING THIS IS INFORMATIONAL FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND THEN KNOWING THAT AS A BOARD OR NEXT PLAN IS TO WORK ON MATRIX.
ON WORK ON HOW? HOW DO THEY BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT IT AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IMPLEMENTATION HAS WORKED IS AN ONGOING LIKE FOREVER MORE THIS BOARD WILL BE? OH, I UNDERSTAND.
I GUESS FOR ME, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TIME FRAME, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SAY WE PRESENT THIS IN APRIL, MAY AND JUNE, MAY, JUNE, SAY JUNE.
THE COUNCIL SAYS, OH, THIS LOOKS GREAT.
THEN THEN WE COME BACK, OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER JUNE IS TO COME BACK AND WORK OUT MATRIX OR THE TIME FRAME OR TIMELINES.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? BECAUSE CONCEIVABLY I CAN I COULD SWALLOW THAT AS, OK, WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT, HEY, LOOK WHAT WE'VE WORKED NOT JUST FOR YOUR COMMENTS, BUT BASICALLY YOU GIVE THAT INITIAL FOUR COMMENTS. BUT IN THE MEANWHILE, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON FIGURING OUT HOW WE IMPLEMENT EACH. YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AS THE BOARD TO MAKE THE PROCESS VERY ITERATIVE.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST OBJECTIVE, THE BOARD'S FIRST OBJECTIVE IS TO GET THIS DRAFT DONE, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
SO THEN THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE A BOARD CAN DECIDE, OK, WHAT SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS NOW? WHAT IS OUR NEXT TASK? YOU HAVE THE EXPANSION LIST THAT YOU'RE DEVELOPING.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING THERE THAT WE FEEL IS REALLY PRESSING? OR PERHAPS SOMETHING HAS EVOLVED BETWEEN THE TIME THAT YOU PRESENT AND THAT FOLLOWING MEETING AND THAT TAKES PRIORITY.
SO. YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE WHICH YOU CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD SO YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT, BUT YOU YOU CAN KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO SORT OF DRIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, DRIVE THAT VEHICLE.
HOWEVER, YOU, AS A BOARD WISH TO DO SO.
THE. I GUESS I KNOW I'M PROBABLY THINKING LIKE.
IT'S LESS IMPLEMENT, BUT THE PROCESS ITSELF IS EIGHT IS BASICALLY SAYING, LOOK WHAT WE HAVE DONE. AND I'M BACK HERE FINE-TUNE IT, SO WE START IMPLEMENTATION, SO THIS ITSELF ISN'T IMPLEMENTATION DOCUMENT, AS IT WERE, GOOD.
THEY COULD IMPLEMENT WHATEVER THEY WOULD LIKE.
I MEAN, THEY MAY GRAVITATE TOWARD GOING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT I THINK, LIKE IF WE'RE ADVISING THEM AND WE FIND LIKE LIKE SUSAN SAID, WE FIND THAT THIS IS JUST A LOT TO SWALLOW IN ONE CHUNK.
WE COULD THEN MAKE IT MORE MANAGEABLE FOR THEM WITH SMALLER ONE YEAR GOALS IN ITSELF, IT IS TOO LARGE TO IMPLEMENT THAT GOAL.
LET'S DO THAT. SO IT WILL HAVE TO COME DOWN TO PRIORITY.
WE'LL HAVE TO COME DOWN TO THAT.
OFTENTIMES, IF I MAY ADD THOSE PRIORITIES AS THEY EVOLVE AND ARE ESTABLISHED, ARE GOING TO BE THERE A LOT OF THINGS, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THAT INFLUENCE THEM.
SO FIRST THING IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK, THE MOST RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT KIND OF THING.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT IT IN THE SAME WAY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU EVALUATE WHERE YOUR FUNDING IS AND HOW THAT DETERMINES WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO IN ANY GIVEN FISCAL YEAR, THAT'S GOING TO BE A DETERMINANT IN TERMS OF HOW FOLKS CAN MOVE FORWARD. SO IN A LOT OF WAYS, HAVING A LARGER DOCUMENT GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO.
IF IF YOU SCALE A DOCUMENT AND SAY, WELL, HERE'S HERE'S OUR THREE PRIORITIES AND THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE IN YEAR ONE, PERHAPS YOU DON'T GET AS MUCH DONE AS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE. SO, YOU KNOW, FLEXIBILITY IS IS JUST IMPORTANT.
I GUESS THE LAYOUT OF THE DOCUMENT ITSELF ISN'T AND ISN'T CONDUCIVE TO.
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SO USUALLY IF LIKE IF I GOT THIS DOCUMENT AND TO BE ABLE TO JUST SAY, OK, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT JUST A LOT OF ACTION ITEMS, A, B, C, THERE'S A LOT HERE.SO YOU DO HAVE TO SAY, OK, COUNCIL MEMBER ONE, YOU TAKE MOBILITY COUNCIL MEMBER TWO TO GO THROUGH AND SEE WHAT YOU LOVE, BUT USUALLY IN.
THE WAY THE STRUCTURE OF THE DOCUMENT ITSELF NEEDS TO BE A FRAMEWORK WHERE IT EASILY MANEUVERABLE, YOU LOOK THROUGH AND YOU'RE LIKE, OK, THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT WE WE CAN TAKE AND THERE'S SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
I TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? WHEN WHO IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN FUND THIS. IS THAT COUNCIL OR IS THIS US OR IS IT STAFF WAS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO OUR OUR COUNCIL IS OUR OUR LEADERSHIP BODY HERE IN THE CITY.
THEY RELY ON STAFF TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
THEY PROVIDE RELION BOARDS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION.
SO YOU'RE ASKING HOW THAT PROCESS EVOLVES? IT REALLY WILL DEPEND UPON WHAT HAPPENS AT THE TIME.
AND WE PRESENT THE DRAFT AND LET'S SAY.
YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN SMITH READS THE DRAFT AND SAYS, OH, GOSH, YOU KNOW, I REALLY, REALLY BELIEVE IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES.
WHAT CAN WE IMPLEMENT THERE? OR SO THEY'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER AS A GROUP, AS A BOARD, AS OUR CITY COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH THEIR PRIORITIES AND COOPERATIVELY AND DECIDE HOW THE CITY SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
SO THEY GET THE DOCUMENT AND THEN INDICATE TO STAFF TO FIGURE OUT FUNDING LIKE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO IMPLEMENT ABC STAFF WOULD SUPPORT THEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS AND OTHER PLANS IS THAT THEY ARE.
THEY'RE MEANT TO BE ASPIRATIONAL AND INSPIRATIONAL AND TO CHANGE THINKING AND TO HELP PEOPLE VISION WHAT COULD BE SO IT ISN'T ALL WE I'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING.
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ON THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES OUT THERE.
THERE'S ALREADY PEOPLE DOING THIS WORK.
WHAT I SPENT LIKE 20 MINUTES ONE MORNING AND I GAVE NICOLE LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT WEBSITES THAT HAVE METRICS, HAVE A HOW TO CALCULATE COST SAVINGS AND A BUNCH OF STUFF.
SO THAT ISN'T REALLY A PROBLEM.
THE IDEA IS TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE.
THAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET PEOPLE INTERESTED.
RIGHT. WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO COMMENT ON IS THAT MAYBE YOU GUYS DO PRESENT THE PLAN. AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY UP TO YOU GUYS.
YOU PRESENT THE PLAN TO COUNSEL.
YOU COME BACK AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING, YOU GUYS SAY, OK, OUR NEXT STEPS ARE MAYBE TO PRIORITIZE THESE ACTION ITEMS. AND THEN YOU SAY BY YEAR ONE, WE WANT THESE ONES AND THEN YOU GIVE THAT TO CANCEL OR THEN YOU'RE FIVE OR TEN. BUT AGAIN, LIKE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ABOUT THIS PLAN IS THAT WE ARE MISSING A LOT OF ACTION ITEMS, PROBABLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THESE PRESENTATIONS.
THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS THAT WHERE THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD AND WE DO KNOW A LOT ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW AND ESPECIALLY RECEPTIVE TO THIS CITY.
SO WHEN REBECCA WENT AND LOOKED UP RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THESE ACTION ITEMS, LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS COULD DO AFTER YOU PRESENT TO COUNCIL, AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, OK, WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR ME IN TERMS OF RESOURCES? HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THIS? WHICH THEN LED ME TO ANOTHER COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE FOR SUSAN. THE COMMENT THAT THE INITIAL BEGINNING OF THIS CONVERSATION WAS HOW DID YOU GET YOUR IDEAS INTO THE PLAN AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT? SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO IS I APPRECIATE LIKE NOTES AND EVERYTHING AND YOUR IDEAS.
I LOVE THEM AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE THEM DOWN.
I KEEP THEM ON LIKE A COMPILED LIST.
BUT UNLESS YOU WORK WITH ME OR SEND ME CONCRETE OBJECTIVES, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT THEM IN THE PLAN FOR DISCUSSION UNLESS THEY ARE ALREADY WORKED OUT.
BECAUSE IF YOU GIVE ME IDEAS AND STUFF AND THEN I HAVE TO PROCESS THEM THROUGH MY OWN HEAD AND THEN WORK ON THEM AND THEN GET THE LANGUAGE OUT THERE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH WORK FOR ME.
SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO JUST ACTION A FOR THIS GOAL IN THIS OBJECTIVE, THAT'S SO MUCH EASIER, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AND I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS THE WRONG WAY IN TERMS OF PUTTING IN THE PLAN.
SO IN REGARDS TO THAT, THAT DOESN'T JUST GO TO YOUTUBE AND I GO TO EVERYONE IF ANYBODY WANTS ANY INPUT INTO THE PLAN THAT IS IN THERE AND YOU CAN SEE IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, JUST MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE OR YOU SEND IT TO ME AS AN OBJECTIVE OR AS AN ACTION ITEM, THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE IT'S THERE.
AND A PARENT. THE NICKEL THAT YOU ARE KEY TO THIS PLAN.
I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO NOT FEEL HEARD, YOU KNOW? NICOLE FELT VERY HURT BY YOU, BUT, YOU KNOW, WELL, THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN US WITH THE INTRODUCTION SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH
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ARE OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.OH, LESLIE, MAY I SAY ONE? OK, GETTING BACK TO THE IDEA OF JUST IF WE CAN TAKE A MOMENT ABOUT PRESENTING THIS PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
I GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ALREADY, THEIR BUDGETS ARE OVER FOUR HUNDRED PAGES AT EACH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO THIS PLAN POTENTIALLY WILL GET LOST, I THINK A PLAN OF ACTION FOR US IS TO THINK ABOUT GOING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND USING THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OPEN COMMENTS OR TAKING A PIECE OF IT AND ENTICING AND INSPIRING AND LETTING PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IS OPERATING.
AND PART OF THAT IS WE'VE NOT EVER FINISHED A PLAN OR PRESENTED ANYTHING.
SO BUT WE SHOULD GET IT PUT TOGETHER AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE IMPLEMENT IT AND PRESENTIST, KEEP OUR DISCUSSION NOW ON THE ON THE PLAN AS WE HAVE IT.
AND AGAIN, GRAMMATICAL CHANGES GO TO NICOLE AND QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CLARIFICATION OR REWORDING OR.
REALLY SCRAPPING THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IF YOU CAN LEAD US THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SECTION BY SECTION STARTING THEN AT THE INTRODUCTION, PLEASE.
OK, SO I'M JUST GOING TO DO THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED SINCE WE'VE READ IT THROUGH. OK, UM, SO WITH THE INTRODUCTION FOR THE ABOUT THE CITY, THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, I READ THAT I WAS SENT FROM JOAN THE NEW METRICS.
SO I JUST CHANGED THE NUMBERS IN THERE.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT WILL BE THAT WILL NEED TO BE CHANGED IS THE THIRTY SEVEN PERCENT.
SO WHEN IT SAYS IN THE LAST SENTENCE, THE CITY IS APPROXIMATELY 37 PERCENT DEVELOPED WITH TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED EIGHTY NINE BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS AND ESTIMATED THAT 37 PERCENT IS NOT CORRECT.
I DON'T THINK SO. THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE INTRODUCTION THAT WAS CHANGED SINCE THE PLAN HAS BEEN SENT OUT AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS IN.
THE FIRST ELEMENT, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, AND IF YOU GO DOWN TO GO TO COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES AND THEN I THINK IT'S GO TO OUR OBJECTIVE E OR D.
MAYBE OBJECTIVE. THE DEAL THAT SHOULD BE IT STARTS WITH ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO.
THERE, WHERE ARE YOU ARE YOU THE FIRST ELEMENT OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN TO GO TO.
ENVIRONMENT. AND YOU SAID COMMUNITY OBJECT.
YES, COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE, AND THEN LETTER D STARTS WITH ENCOURAGE THE REPLACEMENT OUT OF MIND, PRINTED OUT AT HOME DIFFERENTLY.
AND. SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO.
YEAH, THAT'S IT. IT'S THIS IS JUST AN EDITION FROM REMEMBER ZIEGLER, IT'S ENCOURAGED THE REPLACEMENT OF TURF GRASS UNDER THE CANOPY OF LARGER TREES WITH UNDERSTORY TREES, SHRUBS AND GROUND COVERS, WHICH STABILIZES THE LARGEST TREES DURING HIGH WIND AND RAIN EVENTS.
THAT WAS JUST AN ADDITION THAT WAS MADE YOU AND YOU.
AND WE ASK ON THE INTRODUCTION AND GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN.
WERE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR CHANGE NOT ALREADY SENT TO ME OR ANYTHING THAT SENT TO YOU ABOUT IT TONIGHT? DO WE HAVE ANY FROM THE BOARD? THE WHOLE PLAN, LESLIE, OR KNOW THE INTRODUCTION OR THE INTRODUCTION AND RULES OF ACTION PLAN SOMETHING ABOUT.
ACTUALLY STATED A PREFERENCE TO HAVE A POSITIVE STATEMENT OF HOW MUCH WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSERVE AS A CITY INSTEAD OF THIS EVER CHANGING PERCENT OF ALREADY DEVELOPED OR ONE THING WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS PREPLANNING AND OUT OF THE CONTROL OF THE CITY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY BUY BACK FROM THE PRIVATE OWNERS.
WHAT IS WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO IN THE INTRODUCTION, THAT 37 PERCENT IS NOW AT LEAST 40 PERCENT, AND THAT IS A SINCE THIS IS A PRE PLATEAU COMMUNITY, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH CONTROL THE CITY ULTIMATELY HAS OVER DEVELOPMENT.
SO TO STATE A POSITIVE GOAL TO ME FOR THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT OR FOR A CHANGE TO STATE A POSITIVE GOAL OF SECURING AND PROTECTING, PROTECT AND CONSERVE RESERVE WHATEVER LANGUAGE.
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TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT INSTEAD OF THIS CHANGING NO.PENSION. SO YOU SEE THE PART THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED UP THERE, THAT LARGEST MUNICIPALITY THERE, EIGHTY EIGHT SQUARE MILES, INSTEAD OF STATING THE 37 PERCENT DEVELOPED TO SAY THAT THE CITY HAS ESTABLISHED A GOAL OF CONSERVING AND PRESERVING, TO SAY WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE PRESERVED IN OUR PARKS AND OTHER LANDS AND WHAT OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO CONSERVE.
WE DON'T HAVE ONE. NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT IT WOULD GO ON THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD RECOMMEND.
I WOULD ALMOST RECOMMEND JUST TAKING OUT THE PERCENT DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT'S SO FLUID, VERY. SO TAKING OUT 37 PERCENT DEVELOPED WITH.
BUT KEEPING IN THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AND HOUSEHOLDS.
I'D BE OK WITH THAT, YOU KNOW THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A STRONG OBJECTION, I THINK I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT IN THERE UNTIL WE'RE READY WITH THE REVISION, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAD A PAUSE.
FOR THE RECORD, I LOVE THE IDEA OF INCLUDING A POSITIVE GOAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MUCH RESERVE. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, WHEN I READ THAT, IT WAS SHOCKING TO ME, WHICH I THINK WAS A GOOD THING OR I LIKE IT WAS A IT WAS AN AWARENESS PIECE.
AND SO IF I'M JUST BEING BLUNT, YOU KNOW, WHEN OUR CITY COUNCIL LOOKS AT THIS DOCUMENT, I WANT THEM TO SEE, OH, MY GOSH, LIKE 40 PERCENT OF OUR LAND IS DEVELOPED.
LIKE, I JUST UNTIL WE'RE READY WITH THOSE NUMBERS, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT AND JUST FOR NOW, JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST GET, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GET SOMEONE WHO MAYBE DOESN'T THINK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. SO BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, I'M NOT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I CAN DIE ON THAT HILL OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S MY THOUGHT THAT I'M NOT ATTACHED TO EITHER WAY EITHER.
I ONLY THING WITH THIS, I WOULD LOVE WHATEVER YEAR SOMEBODY READS THIS, LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, AT A TIME OR DATE STAMP ON IT, JUST SAY AS OFF THE RADAR THE CITY IS BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, IT'S SO FLUID. WELL, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.
IT JUST SAYS FOR THE POPULATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW. OH, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT YOU KNOW, IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU READ THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS LATER.
I SAY ONE THING ABOUT LAST SENTENCE.
ACRES OF NATURAL LAND PRESERVED IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY THROUGH ENVIRONMENTALLY ENDANGERED LANDS AND A PROGRAM THAT WAS I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT AND I WONDER IF WE COULD HAVE AN APPENDIX WITH A PICTURE, A MAP OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY SET ASIDE OR THEY HAVE, WHAT, PERCENT OR SOMETHING MORE DESCRIPTIVE? WE HAVE SOME THING LIKE THAT READILY AVAILABLE.
HE ALSO RESPONDED TO THE COUNTY ENVIRONMENTALLY ENDANGERED LANDS, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THEIR LATEST PUBLICATIONS, THE MAPS AND THINGS THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE AND THE DATA IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY'RE ACTUALLY CONTROLLING AT THIS POINT.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT WOULD HELP.
YEP, I I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK AND SEE WHAT IS ON THEIR WEBSITE, BUT THE BOARD IS CERTAINLY I MEAN THEY ARE AN ENTITY HERE IN THE COUNTY.
BUT YOU CAN YOU WANT GOOGLE SEARCH THEM AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND A CURRENT MAP AND USE THAT AS ONE OF THE PHOTOS THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE WHEN WE SUBMIT.
CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT. LET'S KEEP WITH OUR PATTERN OF EACH SECTION, EACH HAVING ONE TURN TO SPEAK SO WE CAN KEEP IT CONCISE AS POSSIBLE.
OH, NICOLE. NOW, IF YOU'RE ON TO A NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
THAT WAS THE ONE CHANGE THAT YOU MADE TO THE DOCUMENT.
AND WE'LL JUST START WITH BILL.
YOU HAVE THINGS TO ADD OR CHANGE THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF.
OR, YEAH, UM, ONE, UH, MINOR THING, SO ON GOAL THREE.
UNDER CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES.
POINT B. THERE'S A LINE THAT SAYS DISCOURAGE USE OF FERTILIZERS ON PRIVATE LANDS THROUGH CONTINUING EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS.
I LOVE IT, I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE THAT WE CAN EITHER REITERATE IT OR MOVE IT, I DON'T REALLY CARE EITHER.
I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE UNDER COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES OR COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATE THE USE OF FERTILIZERS ON PRIVATE LANDS OR REDUCE THE USE OF FERTILIZERS ON PRIVATE LANDS.
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UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT RELATES TO THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE UNDER THE COMMUNITY SECTION AS WELL, BUT THAT'S THE YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY REAR VISION I HAD FOR THIS.DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT SECTION? AND I HAVE.
ON. RULE NUMBER TWO AT THE VERY BEGINNING FOR THE OVERALL TOP THREE GOALS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FOR THE SECTION.
AND GOAL NUMBER TWO, AS IT READS, IS MISSING THINGS ABOUT WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, WE GO ON TO TALK ABOUT WILDLIFE CORRIDORS UNDER THAT BILL.
BUT IT SEEMS TO BE MISSING FROM.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WHAT THE SECTION, AS IT'S SPELLED OUT, IS THE SAME AS THE GOALS AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
SO WHAT'S MISSING, EIGHT WILD WILDLIFE CORRIDORS.
THAT'S ACTUALLY PRESENT UNDER CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIONS OF REIMAGINE CANALS TO BE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, AND I JUST WONDERED IF IT SHOULD BE PART OF THAT OR NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE. WE MAKE IT AN OBJECTIVE HERE, SO THAT'S JUST STRUCTURAL ON THE NOTE, THEY'RE ABOUT INCORPORATING SUSTAINED SUSTAINABILITY.
THAT'S BEEN MOVED TO THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT.
RIGHT AT THE VERY BEGINNING, UNDER THE FIRST THREE, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE SO I CAN CATCH UP WITH YOU GUYS.
I'M I'M REALLY AT THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING.
AT THE VERY BEGINNING RIGHT NOW.
CONTROL ULTIMATE GOALS IS AS NOTE AND BOLD.
THERE YOU GO. THERE, JUST REMOVE THAT BECAUSE WE PUT IT IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT.
RIGHT. THEN I'M SORRY, CAN I, UM, BECAUSE I THINK YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING UP.
IS THIS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE LANGUAGE SO JUST KIND OF AT THE TOP, YOU SEE NO ONE RIGHT THERE? YEAH, THAT'S IT'S ACTUALLY GOAL NUMBER ONE, LIKE WHEN YOU RESTATED IN GOAL NUMBER ONE, IT'S MISSING.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT.
I JUST. OH, MY GOD, I WROTE IT IN THE WRONG SPOT.
YEAH. IT WAS LIKE, WAIT A SECOND.
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I WROTE, BUT YOU FOUND IT.
IT'S WRITTEN DIFFERENTLY UNDER GOAL.
ONE OH ONE IS WRITTEN DIFFERENTLY WITHIN THE TEXT VERSUS AT THE VERY BEGINNING GOALS YOU'VE JUST LEFT OUT OR WE'VE LEFT OUT GREAT WILDLIFE CORRIDORS TO BRING YOU BACK TO THAT. THANK YOU. UM.
ON. AND ON GOAL NUMBER TWO, LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
LET HER BE AND YOU CAN YOU WRITE THAT AS AN OBJECTIVE? IT'S NOT. WRITTEN AS AN OBJECTIVE, IT'S WRITTEN AS A COUPLE OF FRAGMENTS OF THOUGHT, I BELIEVE. OK, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE I DON'T CAME FROM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR THERE.
OH, I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION, BUT WHAT I'M NOT SURE HOW TO INTERPRET THAT.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OBJECTIVE OF THAT WAS.
I WORKED ON THE SETTLEMENT, BUT I DIDN'T INCLUDE I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT CAME FROM EITHER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD SAY.
I DON'T I DON'T EVEN KNOW FOR SURE WHY IT'S A BUSINESS OBJECTIVE.
THAT'S. WE ARE VERY COMFORTABLE JUST REMOVING IT.
ANY WAY TO PUT THAT INTO AN OBJECTIVE THAT WE ALL AGREE ON, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT'S SAYING, SO I WOULD BE FINE WITH REMOVING, IF I CAN OFFER JUST A DOCUMENT WIDE SUGGESTION TO WHILE WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOUR CHANGE ALL THE TIME.
AND THE WORST THING TO HAVE IN A DOCUMENT IS SOMETHING THAT JUST GOES DEAD.
SO LIKE THIS ARTICLE IS WRITTEN IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN, I'D BE VERY SURPRISED IF IT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE MUCH LONGER.
SO MAYBE AVOIDING USING THE URLS AND OTHER THINGS.
VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE AND OTHER CHANNELS ARE ALSO VERY TRANSIENT.
SO WE PUT THESE IN THE DOCUMENT.
THERE IS NO ASSURANCE THAT THEY WILL BE AROUND FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME FOR FOLKS TO VIEW JUST A JUST A SUGGESTION OR COMMENT.
I DID THINK THE URLS WERE THERE FOR JUST OUR OWN NOTES.
AND I HAD THE ASSUMPTION WHICH MAYBE IT'S REALLY A BAD IDEA TO ASSUME THE ASSUMPTION THEY'D BE REMOVED WHEN WE WERE DOING THE FORMATTING PROCESS.
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UM, OTHER OTHER THAN, UM, HYPERLINKS TO ON THE OWNED WEBSITES.ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE THINKING TO ALL THAT STUFF WOULD BE REMOVED BY NOT? YOU'RE JUST KEEPING IN THERE FOR, LIKE, YOUR REFERENCE FOR NOW, AND I THINK FOR THOSE LINKS, YOU COULD PROBABLY JUST.
LIKE, GIVE THEM A LABEL AND THEN PUT THEM IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT TO REFER BACK TO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED. IT YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE THAT THE WHOLE GOAL OR NUMBER TWO, THE GOAL NUMBER TWO IS ABOUT RESTORING PUBLICLY OWNED LANDS AND RESTORING NATURAL AREAS ON PRIVATE LANDS. SO.
MAYBE WHAT WAS INTENDED IS THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES TO RESTORE NATURAL LANDS ON THEIR OWNED PROPERTY, BUT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF MY EXPERTIZE.
SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THAT.
WOULD HAPPEN, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT WAS.
IT IS THAT. ANY SENSE TO YOU? I THINK.
I'M INTERPRETING THIS TO MEAN THAT THERE'S MONEY TO BE MADE IN RESTORING THE ECONOMY.
AND RESTORING RESTORATION ECONOMY, THE THERE'S MONEY TO BE MADE IN RESTORING LANDSCAPES AND THE IDEA OF BEING.
A SEPARATE THING FROM IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME IF WE COULD GET RID OF THAT, IF YOU CAN STRIKE THAT, I THINK IT MIGHT REFER TO INCENTIVES TO BUSINESSES FOR PRESERVATION.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS PROPERTY AND YOU HANDLE IT IN A CERTAIN MANNER, THE CITY OR ANOTHER ENTITY WOULD GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR DOING SO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING.
A LOT OF THOSE THINGS LIKE WE'RE WANTING FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING BUSINESSES IN THE CITY AND PRIVATELY, BUT.
THAT'S IN THE THAT'S PART OF THE UNITY OBJECTIVE, SO.
IN TABLE THAT IN ANY WAY, THAT'S JUST IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT.
SO IF WE CAN GET RID OF IT OR REWORK IT, THAT'S MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT FOR THAT SECTION.
AMONG OTHER. THEN COMMENTS ON THAT SECTION.
UM. AND UNDER OBJECTIVES, GOAL ONE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, NO, SEE THE WILDLIFE BORDERS THAT REIMAGINE WAS THAT WORD CHANGE LOOSELY IS THAT.
IMAGINE CANALS TO BE WILDLIFE, CAN WE CHANGE THAT? WE COULD I MEAN, IT COULD BE.
WE WANT DO WE WANT THEM TO CHANGE THE E-MAILS, BASICALLY WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT.
THAT THE CITY WOULD VIEW THE CANALS AS WILDLIFE CORRIDORS SO THAT THEY ARE, BUT I CANNOT REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW.
HOW THAT COULD BE DONE, AND THAT'S THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT AT A DEVELOPMENTAL THING, OR IT WAS MORE LIKE WITH MOWING AND WITH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ME I CAN'T REMEMBER.
I KNOW WE. WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT AS WE GROW, THERE'S STILL WILDLIFE CORRIDORS WITHIN THE CITY AND THAT THE CANALS WERE A NATURAL WAY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
OR THAT THE WALL LIKE ORDERS WILL BE PRESERVED.
CITY GROWTH. OR MAYBE BEGIN TREATING CITY CANALS AS WILDLIFE CORRIDORS.
YEAH, YEAH, IT'S GOOD THAT I'M IMAGINING IT, IT'S JUST THAT WOULD COME UNDER THE CITY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT OR THE LAWN PEOPLE, HOW WOULD THEY SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE? IT'S LOOKING AT THE REALITY OF IT, TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY BECAUSE I SAW A DOCUMENTARY WHERE THEY WERE ACTUALLY USING THAT, I THINK IT WAS IN ENGLAND OR SOMEWHERE, AND THEY YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE SPACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WILDLIFE WOULD STILL GROW, ALTHOUGH THE CITY WAS BUILT UP AND, YOU KNOW, SO THEY STILL HAVE A SAFE HAVEN.
I BEGIN CONVERSION OF WILDLIFE CONVERSION.
IS IT IS THIS NOTION OF DEVELOP AROUND AND OVER, NOT THROUGH.
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SO. HOWEVER, THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO WORD THAT WHETHER IT'S A CANAL OR ANOTHER WILDLIFE CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CITY, WE DON'T BULLDOZE IT.WE. INCORPORATED INTO IT AND I ARE GOING TO DEFER TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR WORDING, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE INTENT WITH THAT PASSAGE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS THEY AND NOW ONLY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, BECAUSE THERE IS OTHER WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, PERIOD.
RIGHT. AND IT COULD JUST BE ENCOURAGE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, ESPECIALLY IN CANAL.
IT COULD I MEAN, GENERALLY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS YOU WANT WILDLIFE IGNORED AND WE FEEL THAT CANALS ARE A GREAT WAY TO FOR THAT TO HAPPEN OR PART OF IT.
WHAT IF THE IDEA OF CANALS IS THAT THEY ARE THE ONES WHERE THE ANIMALS DON'T HAVE TO INTERACT WITH TRAFFIC? WHAT IF THE LANGUAGE WAS SOMETHING AND I'M KIND OF BRAINSTORMING AS I'M TALKING HERE, SO HELP ME OUT. UM, WHAT IF YOU'RE SOMETHING LIKE INCORPORATE, UH, THE PLANNING OF WILDLIFE CORRIDORS IN CITY DEVELOPMENT? AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL DO LIKE EXAMPLES, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, TREATING CITY CANALS AS WILDLIFE CORRIDORS.
BEAUTIFUL. THAT'S WHY THEY PAY ME THE BIG BUCKS.
CITY DEVELOPMENT IT INCORPORATE THE PLANNING OF WILDLIFE CORRIDORS IN CITY DEVELOPMENT, I.E., TREATING CANALS AS SUCH WILDLIFE CORRIDORS.
I SAW THE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
THEY SEEM TO BE REPETITIVE TO ME AND THAT KIND OF WEAKENED AND LIKE HYDRATION STATIONS THAT'S UNDER CITY GOVERNMENT.
I SAY, YAY, THIS SECTION ON CITY GOVERNMENT IS TO ME GREAT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
UH. LIKE PROMOTE THE USE OF REUSABLE WATER BOTTLES BY INSTALLING HYDRATION STATIONS.
OK, I GOT IT, BUT I'LL PAY FOR IT AND PUT IT IN.
BUT THEN IT'S REPEATED UNDER THE BUSINESS OBJECTIVE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL FOUND THAT REPETITIVE AND KIND OF DISTRACTING.
UH, I DIDN'T ONLY BECAUSE I JUST THINK THE MONEY SOURCE IS DIFFERENT.
RIGHT. SO, LIKE, CITI CAN PUT HYDRATION STATIONS ON CITY PROPERTY, BUT THEN WE'RE ASKING, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES, HEY, WAL-MART, YOU KNOW, YOU HIT OH, THERE WAS ONE OTHER WORD TO THAT CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, A INSTALL WATERLESS COMPOSTING TOILETS ON REMOTE NESHER NATURAL. AND I WOULD LEAVE OUT THE WORD REMOTE.
I WANT TO SAY THAT WHOEVER OUR OR PEOPLE WERE THAT WROTE THE SECTION ON MUNITY OBJECTIVES, ABCDE, WONDERFUL, THE WHOLE GOAL TO WONDERFUL THOSE, THAT SECTION IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT JUST POPPED FOR ME OFF THE PAGE ONTO TO ACTION THAT IS IN AN ACTION PLAN.
I WANTED TO POINT OUT ON CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, NO E IDENTIFY CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
DID HE GO TO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, JUST THAT OBJECTIVE ALONE IDENTIFY CITY OWNED PROPERTY? THERE IS SURPLUS PROPERTY THE CITY HAS, AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN OUR PLAN OR IN OUR IMAGE, IN OUR MINDS THAT THE CITY'S SURPLUS PROPERTY CAN BE.
AT A SITE FOR SUSTAINABLE PROGRAMS AND THINGS AT THE TIME, BUT I JUST WANT TO.
ANGER WORDING ON COMMUNITY, WE'RE STILL ON GOAL TO GOING DOWN TO COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES, NO. D ENCOURAGE THE REPLACEMENT OF TURF GRASS UNDER THE CANOPY.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT GOAL AND ANYBODY SUGGEST A DIFFERENT WORD AND ENCOURAGE LIKE DO OR JUST START WITH REPLACEMENT REPLACEMENT OF TURF GRASS.
HE SAYS ENCOURAGE BECAUSE IT'S A CITY OR A COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE AND WE CAN'T.
MAKE THAT HAPPEN, WE CAN ONLY ENCOURAGE THAT HAD HAPPEN.
OH, IS THAT PRIVATELY OWNED AND THAT NEEDS TO GO UP IN THE CITY.
I THINK WE CAN WORK ON THAT IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT, THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAD SWAMP TURF GRAPH TURF GRASS PROGRAMS WHERE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, LANDOWNERS WERE
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INCENTIVIZED IN VARIOUS WAYS, COMPENSATED FOR REMOVING THEIR TURF GRASS.BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAD TO HAPPEN BEFORE THAT.
WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO DO QUITE YET.
YOU'RE ALL SAYING MAKE SURE THAT THE EXPANSION.
I THINK THAT IS AN EXCELLENT OK, GOING DOWN TO GULF THREE, NO A AND THEN SMALL LETTER B INSIDER REDUCTION OF STORM WATER BILLS AND WE JUST SAY REDUCTION OF STORM WATER BILLS DON'T DO CONSIDER.
IT'S OUR MOST PERFECT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO NUMBER B AT THAT SAME LOCATION, ELIMINATE USE OF FERTILIZER ON PUBLIC LANDS BY USING ORGANIC SOURCES.
THAT IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE GOALS THAT JUST POPS.
AND I THINK, AGAIN, WHOEVER WROTE THAT, IT WAS EXCELLENT NAME WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES. OK, WE KEEP GOING DOWN HERE.
WHAT WAS THE PRODUCTION COMMENT THAT YOU MADE? IS IT INSTEAD OF CONSIDER A REDUCTION, JUST REDUCE STORMWATER BILLS? WELL, I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED JUST TO REDUCE NOW, THE CITY HAS AS A BUDGET AND BILLS AND THINGS.
SO WE HAVE TO BE PRACTICAL AND SAY SO.
I THINK CONSIDERING IS BEARING IN MIND THAT THERE IS YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, OK, REDUCE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE IS REDUCING AND IT'S JUST NOT A PRACTICAL SOLUTION.
SO I THINK IT'S OVER TIME YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS NOW, YOU CAN THE REDUCTION CAN HAPPEN, BUT THEY JUST SAY REDUCE.
AND AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE, THEN, AS IS FEASIBLE.
SO THEN YOU HAVE THE STRONG WORDING AT THE BEGINNING, BUT ACCOMMODATE FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THING ELSE, OTHER THAN, AGAIN, THAT SECTION IS WELL WRITTEN.
RIGHT, I I'M SO SORRY, CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE THING THAT I THOUGHT OF REALLY, REALLY QUICK, UM, UNDERGO THREE CITY GOVERNMENT AND THEN BE THAT LAST SENTENCE.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST MAKE THAT ANOTHER OBJECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE KIND OF IDENTIFYING CONVERTED PUBLIC PARK SUITABLE FOR.
GOD HELP ME IF I CAN SAY THAT WORD AND THEN STOP SIGNING SIGNAGE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THOSE COULD BE SEPARATE GOALS.
SO NO CHANGES, JUST ENTER ON THE DOCUMENT AND AGREE TO MAKE IT INTO C AND D OR JUST C, I'M THINKING C AND D, BUT IF EVERYONE'S COOL WITH IT, I JUST THINK THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH WEIGHT THAT THEY DESERVE THEIR OWN.
YEAH. I DON'T THINK I'LL ADD THIS AND WE CAN GUESS WE CAN PUT THE EXPANSION DOCUMENTS AND SEE ANYTHING WITH THE FULL BOXES.
MEANT THAT AN EXPANSION PLAN, THEREFORE.
YEAH, I KNOW THE CITY IS DOING SOMETHING NOW ABOUT THE BLAST, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. SO I THINK NOT HAVING IT AT ALL IN THERE TO JUST SAYS, OK.
NO, THE SPIRIT IS NOT HERE, BUT I KNOW THERE IS A PLAN OR WORKING WITH THE INTERIOR OF THE LAGOON IS SOME PLAN FOR THAT.
IN GENERAL, A TREATMENT TRAIN LIKE A RAFFLE BOX FALLS INTO TREATMENT OF NUTRIENTS AND OR, YOU KNOW, PHOSPHOROUS AND NITROGEN IN OUR WATER SYSTEM.
SO AND SEDIMENT AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS.
BUT IF THE BOX IS ONE MECHANISM TO USE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO THE OVERARCHING THEME IS LOOKING AT WAYS TO REDUCE CONTAMINANTS IN OUR WATERWAYS.
SOME OTHER WORDING, PERHAPS REBECCA KNOWS THAT ABOUT THIS, I THINK.
I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT AS BEING PART OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT NEAR ROADWAYS AND THINGS WHERE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AS PART OF A SIDEWALK OR A STREET OR SOMETHING RUNNING OFF FROM A PARKING LOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, BUT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. WE DON'T HAVE IT ANYWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT.
I'VE NEVER HAD IT IN THE DOCUMENT AND I KNOW TALKING WITH DR.
SOTO, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS JUST GARBAGE RUNOFF.
RUNNING IT JUST LIGHTLY RUNNING, BUT THAT IS ALSO AN ISSUE THAT SHE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT,
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OTHER CITIES THAT USED AS LARGE BAGS TO TO CATCH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE GARBAGE THAT GOES DOWN IN THE CANALS AND, YOU KNOW, ENTER INTO THE WATERWAYS.SO I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, EITHER WE MAKE A POINT OF SEEING IT SOMEWHERE AND I APOLOGIZE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
I LEFT MY NOTES TO MY HUSBAND.
THERE WAS THERE WAS A MENTION OF COMPLETE STREETS.
AND HERE AND COMPLETE STREET INCORPORATES STORM RUNOFF AND A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OF CAPTURING THAT AND USING IT ON SITE FOR GARDENS.
I SEE YOU DISCUSS THE COMPLETE SIDEWALKS, I THINK IT'S CALLED.
TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STORMWATER TREATMENT.
UM. WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF INCREASING WATER QUALITY.
NOW THAT THAT'S PART OF. LIKE EXPANDING IT.
OUT OF IT, OR MAYBE JUST ADD THAT UNDER THE COMPLETE STREETS AS JUST A COMMA LOOTING OR OTHER ENCOUNTERS THAT MAYOR.
AND WE GO TO ENERGY AND BUILDINGS AND NICOLE, I HAVE NO ALTERATIONS ON ENERGY IN BUILDINGS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THE LINKS LIKE WE DISCUSSED THAT WE WILL PROBABLY GET RID OF WHEN THE TIME COMES.
BILL. UH, YEAH, NOT TOO MUCH, JUST ONE, UM, ON GOAL TO INVEST IN CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY UNDER LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
IS WHERE COMPANY VEHICLES ARE USED TO REPLACE GASOLINE FUELED WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
I JUST THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT, UM, OVERARCHING GOAL, THE NEXT SECTION, BECAUSE WE ALSO IN THE NEXT SECTION OF UNOBJECTIVE TO MOVE CITY VEHICLES TO.
I JUST THINK IT ALL GOES IN THE SAME SPOT.
SO. UM, IS MOVING IT TO THE NEXT ELECTION WOULD, UH, MAKE THE MOST SENSE AND TO BE SPECIFIC DECISION, I THINK IT SHOULD GO TO TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND THEIR GOAL. ONE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
YOU TALK ABOUT IT MORE NEXT SECTION, BUT.
YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THE GO TO LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT ADVOCATE FOR STRONGER STATE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES. OR SOLAR ENERGY, IS THAT SOMETHING AS A CITY WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO.
DO. WELL, ONE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECT ON THE GO TO ASSIST LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
I THINK BECAUSE IT'S UNDER LOCAL BUSINESS, THAT'S WHY IT SAYS ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY TO DO THAT. BUT IN ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY CAN DO THAT.
SO ARE YOU SAYING IT SHOULD BE IN CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES INSTEAD? YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
WELL, OVERALL, EVEN I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THE.
YEAH, HOW WHO ARE THEY ADVOCATING TO? IS IT ME OR ADVOCATING TO THE STATE? I WASN'T SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND THEN, AS YOU SAID, WHY ARE WE PUTTING THIS BURDEN ON OUR LOCAL WHEN WE ARE GOVERNMENT? WE SEE THE NEED, WHY WE'RE PUTTING IT ON OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS WHEN WE SEE THE NEED.
I WASN'T SURE. WE'RE NOT REALLY MAYBE IN CITY GOVERNMENT AND WE CAN SAY ADVOCATE TO STATE REPRESENTATIVES OR STRONGER PEOPLE, THIS IS IN THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS IN HERE FOUR TIMES AND THAT SECTION AT LEAST, WHERE IT SAYS ADVOCATE, ADVOCATE TO THE STATE, ADVOCATE FOR STATE STRONGER. AND I'M NOT SURE I.
I'M NOT SURE WE CAN TELL PEOPLE WHAT WE WANT THEM TO ADVOCATE A GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY IN A LOCAL BUSINESS, BECAUSE IT'S THEIR OWN DECISION.
AND SO I WAS A BIT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
IT HAS AND IT THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR PLACES, IT'S.
I DO THINK THOSE ARE ALL I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I GOT A SOLAR PANEL BECAUSE I'M GETTING IN RIGHT OFF AT THE YEAR AND SO THERE ARE SOME INCENTIVES.
AND IF THERE IS A WAY TO GET MORE OR TO ENCOURAGE MORE OR WORKING CLOSELY WITH THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE BUSINESSES THAT INSTALL THE SOLAR TO, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW, ON THE
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LOCAL BUSINESS.YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING FOR THEMSELVES, KNOW WHEN THE CITY KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT THEM? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IT WAS OUT THERE, A CONCRETE.
I DO AGREE WITH MOVING IT, MOVING AWAY, ESPECIALLY FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY ACTION. I DO THINK THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT CAN STILL ADVOCATE FOR ITS CITY AT THE STATE LEVEL. I MEAN, OUR CITY GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY PASSED A RESOLUTION LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO TO ADVOCATE FOR THE EXPANSION OF MEDICAID.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LEAVE IT AS A CITY.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE HERE.
IF THE CITY IF THERE IS AN IDEA THAT THE CITY HAS FOR, YOU KNOW WHAT, INSTEAD OF GIVING US 5000 BACK, WE HAD 20000 BACK OR WHATEVER IT IS OR.
WELL, RIGHT NOW, THE STATE HAS ZERO INCENTIVES.
THE INCENTIVES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YEAH, SO IT'S SUNSHINE STATE HAS ZERO INCENTIVES.
AS SO AS I SAID, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY THE LOCAL BUSINESSES SHOULD BE FIGHTING FOR. OH, I'M OK WITH MOVING IT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND MOLDING OUR CITY TO MAKE BOLD STEPS OR, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY.
A LOT OF THE SOLAR THINGS HERE THAT I SAW, LIKE WITH A PARTNER WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE SOLAR TRAINING WORKSHOPS FOR THE RESIDENTS.
WHERE ARE WE AT THE SAME LOCAL BUSINESS? AGAIN, THAT SOUNDS TO ME I'M A IF I'M A BUSINESS THAT SELLS SOLAR, IS IT THAT I'M JUST.
WHO AM I? IF I'M THE IS IT I'M A SOLAR BUSINESS, WHAT IT SAYS HERE, PARTNER WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATION, AM I A BUSINESS OR DOES.
AM I? THAT COULD BE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY USING SOLAIRE.
PARTNER WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.
I'M A BUSINESS. I SELL T SHIRTS, I'M PARTNER WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATION, OTHER BUSINESSES TO PROVIDE SOLAR TRAINING AND WORKSHOP OPPORTUNITIES.
IF I'M A SOLD OUT BUSINESS, I CAN UNDERSTAND PARTNERING WITH THE CITY TO EXPAND, YOU KNOW, AND EDUCATE AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
ALL I'M GOING TO BE PARTNERING, YOU KNOW.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE ALMOST GIVING ME AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK SO THAT SO THE CITY SHOULD.
IS IT MORE THAT THE CITY SHOULD KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD ON PARTNERING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE IF YOU WANT TO TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT SOLAR, ENCOURAGING SOLAR IS IS DEFINITELY PARTNERING WITH THOSE BUSINESSES TO TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT THE OPTIONS.
AND I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY GET THOSE CALLS ON YOUR PHONE TO GET SOLAR AND GET IT.
BUT THERE IS PROBABLY A WAY WHERE THE CITY CAN, IF IT'S A LOCAL BUSINESS, TO SAY, OK, THIS IS WORKING WITH THIS BUSINESS, THIS BUSINESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH BUSINESS WE WORK WITH. BUT IF THERE'S A NONPROFIT PROBABLY OUT THERE TO TEACH PEOPLE THE BENEFITS OF SOLAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT.
BUT I THINK IT'S TO JUST WIDE.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING TO REWARD IT AND CHANGE IT AND MOVE IT TO CITY, OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE SAY OR SUGGEST WRITING SOLAR OR BUSINESSES INVOLVED WITH.
I WOULD I WOULD SPECIFY I WOULD PUT IT IN THE CITY OBJECTIVE, BUT ALSO.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS AND MAYBE STAFF CAN HELP IS IF I'M A BUSINESS, IS THE CITY ABLE TO PARTNER WITH ME TO PROMOTE MY BUSINESS? BECAUSE THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE IF I AM SOLD A COMPANY X AND I SAID, OH, PARTNER WOULD LOOK.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS PARTNERING WITH SOLAR COMPANY X TO PROMOTE TO PROMOTE USE OF SOLAR. THAT TO ME IS ALMOST A BECAUSE THIS SOLAR COMPANY WISE, THEY'RE LIKE, WHY DO YOU CHOOSE ME? YEAH, NO, I DON'T KNOW.
EVEN THE CITY ITSELF COULD ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS YOU'RE ASKING.
ARE YOU SAYING CAN THE CITY PARTNER WITH THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS TO PROMOTE.
NOT ON IT. NOT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
NO. THERE ARE CITIES WHO HAVE PLATFORMS WHERE LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE ABLE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS A MEANS TO SELL THEIR WARES, SO TO SPEAK.
BUT THE CITY CANNOT AND HAS A POLICY THAT WE CANNOT SHOW PREFERENCE OVER ONE BUSINESS FOR
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ANY PARTICULAR REASON. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY LOOK AT THIS, REMOVE IT TO A CITY, OBJECTIVE WORD, PARTNERING AND THAT SORT OF THING.I MEAN, IF YOU INDULGE ME, WHICH ONE ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT? THE CHAIRWOMAN D ALL TO GO TO LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE, THE.
I KIND OF THINK WE SHOULD JUST STRIKE, THAT IT CAN GO UNDER EDUCATION OR IT PROBABLY BELONGS SOMEWHERE ELSE, PARTNERSHIPS AND SEE, I THINK THE SENTENCE SHOULD JUST READ THE FIRST SENTENCE, DETERMINE FINANCIAL AND SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL.
FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
I'M IN AWE THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE SOLDIERS TRAINING THE CITY UNDER THE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE D.
IT'S IT IS TALKING ABOUT HOSTING POLARIZING CAMPAIGNS.
AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE APPROPRIATE TO ADD A PARTNER WITH FREQUENTLY HOST AND PARTNER WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES.
I WOULD EVEN USE THE WORD PARTNER, I WOULD STRIKE IT IF THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE I MISSED THAT. BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THEY ARE GOING TO DO THESE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY TO GET THIS DONE.
THE PARTNER WITH AND JUST KEEP IT AS AN OBJECTIVE, WE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH REMOVING THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS THAT THAT IS OK.
OK. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING, IT WAS THE.
JUST TO CONFIRM, WE'RE JUST INTO BUSINESS A, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GO OUT AND FIND A SUSTAINABLE WAYS TO SURVIVE AS A BUSINESS.
DETERMINED FINANCIAL AND SUSTAINABILITY GOALS FOR YOUR INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS WILL OUT GATHER FACTS ABOUT YOUR RECENT ENERGY USE WITH A COMMERCIAL SOLAR SPECIALIST, WARD YOUR BUSINESS TO THE FULL SERVICE SOLUTION PROVIDER.
OH, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY NEEDS THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
I JUST STILL THINK WE'RE JUST I THINK WE SHOULD JUST KEEP UP WITH ESTABLISH SUSTAINABILITY GOALS FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
UH, I THINK THERE'S A FEW IMPORTANT IDEAS THERE THAT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE, SO WHAT IF IT WAS UNDERSTAND YOUR BUSINESS'S ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND CREATE.
ATTAINABLE GOALS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND RENEWABLE ENERGY, CLEAN AND RENEWABLE ENERGY.
THAT'S WHAT THIS GOAL IS ABOUT.
SO WHAT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF LIKE THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR IMPACT IS, YOU KNOW, AND YOUR IMPACT ON.
YEAH, THE WORD ON THE STAND IS GOOD.
UH, YEAH, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF UNDERSTAND YOUR BUSINESS'S ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND CREATE, UH, LIZZI THINGS AS SUSTAINABLE GOALS OR ELSEWHERE, CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY.
FOR ME. I HAVE I HAVE A SMALL PET PEEVE THAT'S ALWAYS BOTHERED ME, THE THE INTRODUCTION, THE SECTION IS TITLED ENERGY AND BUILDINGS AND IN BRACKETS, IT'S BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
THE FIRST SECTION IS NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, WITH LAND AND WATER SYSTEMS IN BRACKETS, AND IT ALWAYS HAS SEEMED TO ME LIKE.
THE FIRST ONE IS NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, THE SECOND ONE SHOULD BE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND JUST FLIP FLOP. IT'S SO ENERGY IN BUILDINGS IS IN PARENTHESES.
IT'S THIS LITTLE THING, IT'S LIKE I'M JUST REALLY GLAD YOU CAN GET THAT OFF YOUR CHEST.
ONE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE E IS A DUPLICATE.
THE STRIKE THAT. REPLICATES THE.
AND THEN IN CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE.
WELL, ONE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE, A.
IT SAYS THE CITY WILL WORK WITH PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT STRETCH VERSIONS OF THE ENERGY CODE FOR NEW AND SUBSTANTIALLY RENOVATED BUILDINGS.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
THE CITY WILL WORK WITH THE CITY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE MEANT BY THAT, I THINK THERE'S A WORD MISSING.
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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THAT? WHO IS WORKING WITH WHO LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE INTENDING TO SAY STAFF WILL WORK WITH COUNCIL, BUT REALLY TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL ASKED FOR OUR ASSISTANCE WITH THINGS.YES. SO STRIKE THE WORD CITY AND OR LEAVE CITY OR CITY STAFF, ADD THE WORD STAFF AFTER CITY CITY STAFF.
YOU DON'T EVEN YOU DON'T EVEN NEED THAT.
UM, LIKE ALL THE OTHER GIRLS, UM, YOU REALLY JUST SEE THIS STUFF AND IT'S IMPLICIT.
YEAH. ADOPT STRETCH VERSIONS OF ENERGY TO STRIKE EVERYTHING UP TO THE WORD ADOPT.
UM, VERSION WHAT YOU MEANT, BUT.
I THINK IT'S. NOW, WHAT WOULD BE JUST BEYOND WHAT WE THINK IS FEASIBLE AND MAYBE IT WON'T BE FEASIBLE FOR FEW YEARS FROM NOW, THAT OUR JOB IS READY FOR JUST KIND OF GRADUALLY, IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION TO YOU AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE EXAM, READING IT AND THINGS, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I MEAN, I ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY STRETCH? SAY, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, YOUR WORDING IS SOMETHING LIKE A STRETCH OR, YOU KNOW, DEFINE THAT WITHIN THE PASSAGE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE READING. THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT OR ASK SOMEONE ELSE.
SO IT'S A STRETCH OR LONG TERM VERSION.
LONG TERM, THOUGH, TO LONG TERM ADOPT A LONG TERM VERSION, I READ THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO ADOPT LONG TERM VERSIONS OF.
OK, SO. I GET UP TO THE WORD ADOPT, AND INSTEAD OF THE WORD STRETCH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE KEEPING UP TO DATE WITH WHATEVER NEW TECHNOLOGY IS OUT THERE.
IS THAT IT? IT'S MORE LIKE THE DON'T JUST LOOK AT LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS MOMENT, BUT LONGER GOALS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LONG RANGE VIEW.
ABOUT ADOPT AND CONTINUE TO REVISE.
UM, I REALLY LIKE THAT WORD REVISE WHAT IF WHAT IF IT WAS.
I'M GOING TO DO KIND OF A FULL REVISION HERE, BUT I THINK THIS MIGHT BE WHERE WE'RE GOING. UH, REVISE THE ENERGY CODE.
UH, NEW AND SUSTAINABLE, RENOVATED BUILDINGS IN LIGHT OF.
LONG TERM IMPACT OR IN LIGHT OF LONG TERM GOALS.
G.K NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND ORIGINS.
SO, YEAH, IT'S REALLY LIKE TRYING TO GET AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING FOR ENERGY CODE, NEW BUILDINGS OR RENOVATING BUILDINGS, WE WANT IT TO BE CUTTING EDGE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS THAT, BUT IT'S GETTING IT.
IF YOU CAN SAY. BUT WHEN YOU SAY.
THAT MEANS WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT YOU THEN THAT.
REVISE THE ENERGY CODE FOR NEW AND SUSTAINABLE RENOVATED BUILDINGS.
WE REFLECT, UM, UM, EMERGING SUSTAINABLE TECHNOLOGIES LIKE CUTTING EDGE, CUTTING EDGE, AND I JUST I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE CUTTING EDGE IS TO.
WELL, LIKE I MEAN, DOES THIS CUTTING EDGE REFERRED TO THE NEWEST TECHNOLOGIES IN THE MARKET OR IS REFER TO LIKE ALL THOSE PROTOTYPES GOING TO SEE AT SOME JOB FAIR OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE TECH FAIRS THAT YOU'RE NEVER GOING I MEAN, LIKE THIS CUTTING EDGE? YOU'VE HEARD OF THE THING THAT'S LIKE.
THREE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS YEAR IN THE CITY CAN NEVER AFFORD IT, OR IS IT THE NEWEST VERSION OF A VERY AFFORDABLE SOLAR PANEL? I JUST FEEL LIKE CUTTING EDGE IS A LITTLE MY OPINION, A LITTLE TOO VAGUE, CHARGING THAT AS IT. DID YOU GET THAT SENTENCE, REVISED ENERGY CODE FOR NEW, SUSTAINABLE AND RENOVATED BUILDINGS TO REFLECT THE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES ON THE MARKET? OR I THINK THE LAST PART, EMERGING ENERGY TECHNOLOGY.
UM. AND ALL ONE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE.
B OR A, A SUBLETTER, B IS THAT ARE YOU WITH ME? THEY USE GREEN TEAM. YES.
OK, AND YOU DO SOMETHING TO JUST CORRECT THE WORDING OF THAT SENTENCE AT THE END.
IF I READ IT, USE GREEN TEAM TO ADJUST POLICIES TO ELIMINATE PURCHASE OF SINGLE USE ITEMS AND MOVE TO GREEN CLEANING THE USE AND DISPOSAL.
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IS THAT THE YOU? THERE IS A WORD MISSING THERE, THAT SENTENCE NEEDS CORRECTED.USE THE USE AND DISPOSAL OF HARMFUL CHEMICALS.
IS IT THE WORD FOR USE TO SINGLE GREEN? I THINK THAT MEANS ALL YOU ACTUALLY NEED IS JUST THE WORD THE AFTER AND SO WOULD BE.
AND FOR THE RECORD, I ALSO THINK IN LIGHT OF POINT A TO POINT B CAN TAKE OUT, YOU SHOULD JUST SAY ADJUST THE WORD ADJUST, ADJUST POLICIES TO ELIMINATE PURCHASE OF SINGLE USE ITEMS AND MOVE TO GREEN, UH, AND MOVE TO GREEN CLEANING.
ALTHOUGH, I MEAN, IT'S I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE USE.
AND DISPOSAL OF HARMFUL CHEMICALS, SO IT'S REALLY JUST ADJUST THE POLITICS, ADJUST POLICIES TO ELIMINATE PURCHASE OF SINGLE USE ITEMS AND MOVE TO GREEN CLEANING SUPPLIES.
OUR PRACTICES MOVED TO GREEN CLEANING PRACTICES LIKE PRACTICES.
TAKE OUT, REDUCE THESE DISPOSABLE I'M OK, GO.
I'LL JUST SAY IT AGAIN, ADJUSTS POLICIES TO ELIMINATE PURCHASE OF SINGLE USE ITEMS AND MOVE TO GREEN LEANING.
LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES SEE AND COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE, A BOTH OF THOSE SAY ADVOCATE FOR STATE BUILDING POLICIES THAT ALIGN WITH CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 20 50.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE CAN SUGGEST IN THIS DOCUMENT TO ASK PEOPLE.
IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN ASK THE CITY TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THOSE ARE AND THEY BROUGHT THAT UP.
AS WELL, IT COMES IN GOLD TO LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE, A ALSO SAYS ADVOCATE FOR STATE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR SOLAR ENERGY AND LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE.
B ADVOCATE FOR STATE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, AS THERE ARE ON ME ON COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE.
SO THERE'S LIKE THERE'S AT LEAST THOSE FOUR SPOTS THAT WE'RE ASKING THE COMMUNITY OR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO ADVOCATE WITH THE STATE.
OR THESE POLICIES, AND I'M OPEN TO QUESTION OR SUGGESTION, BUT I FELT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT AN OBJECTIVE.
YES, AND WE CAN WE WE ARE WE ARE ADVISING THE CITY SO WE CAN TELL THE CITY WE WANT YOU TO ADVOCATE WITHIN THE LARGER STATE GOVERNMENT.
I TO SPEAK AS A CITY GIRL, BUT AS A CITY, CAN WE? TRY TO FOCUS ON OUR OWN BUILDING.
I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK IT'S MORE OFF INSTEAD OF NOT ADVOCATING TO THE STATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORD IS ADVOCATES, SINCE THE CITY CAN, YOU KNOW, WITH A STROKE OF A PEN OR WITH A VOTE, THEY CAN SAY, OK, THIS IS OUR PLAN, OUR GOAL.
WE HAVE HOME RULE AND WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN ADVOCATE WHEN IT'S THE CITY COUNCIL TO FOCUS ON.
SO I DON'T SEE IT AS ADVOCATING THE STATE, BUT AS A CITY.
PUTTING PLANS AND PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO ACHIEVE URBAN.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE YOUR IDEAS, LESLIE, AND JUST KIND OF MOVE INTO AN ACTION, AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT UNDER THE CONTEXT, A BUILT ENVIRONMENT, WE REMOVE ALL OBJECTIVES UNDER LOCAL AND COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ASKING OUR LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR OR OUR RESIDENTS TO ADVOCATE FOR ANYTHING SPECIFIC.
UM, AND WE ENSURE THAT THOSE IDEAS ARE CAPTURED IN CITY GOALS.
THAT WOULD BE LIKE WHAT I WOULD SAY THERE ARE.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE DOUBLE CHECK IT, THAT WE WOULD NOT ONLY DELETE SOMETHING, BUT, UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ACTION ITEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE REMOVE ADVOCATE.
IT WOULD BE BECAUSE GOAL ONE, IT IS PART OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES AND IT'S REPEATED IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IT REMOVE IT FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IT WOULD BE BUSINESS OBJECTIVES AND COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES.
WE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT IDEA OF REMOVING IT.
SO I THOUGHT, OK, I'M BUSY, THOUGH.
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I THINK IF IT'S A CITY'S OBJECTIVE, THE QUESTION WHEN YOU SEE ADVOCATE, WHEN WE SAY CITY, WE'RE TALKING CITY COUNCIL.SO IF YOU USE THE WORD ADVOCATE, WERE THEY ADVOCATING THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE? BUT IF HIS CITY'S OWN BUILDINGS THAT RICH WHAT ARE WE ARE WHEN IT COMES TO ACHIEVING? CARBON, YOU CHARGE IT WITH A FOCUS ON BUILDINGS.
ARE WE TRYING TO FIX THE REST OF THE STATE OR WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THINGS HERE IN PARIS? JUST CLARIFY LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
SEE STATES ADVOCATE FOR STATE BUILDING POLICIES THAT ALIGN WITH CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050. I LIKE THAT REVISION.
I AM JUST. UM, ASKING WHAT THE BOARD INTENDED WITH THAT THAT'S ALSO IN CONFLICT WITH THE NUMBER WE HAVE AT THE VERY BEGINNING, WHICH IS 20, 35.
INSTEAD OF 20, 50, THE ADVOCATE, A LOCAL BUSINESS ADVOCATING FOR BUILDING POLICIES.
UM, THERE'S THAT ONE THAT IS IN THAT TWO LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES, SEE, ANOTHER ADVOCACY ADVOCACY STATEMENT WAS IN THE DOCUMENT AND I THINK WE ALREADY AGREED TO REMOVE THOSE.
I THINK JUST THE QUESTION IS NOW ABOUT THE ADVOCATES, THE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE INSIDE THE CITY GOVERNMENT SECTIONS.
AND, UH, PERSONALLY, I DO BELIEVE THAT IS THE ADVISORY BOARD, WE COULD AND SHOULD TELL THE CITY COUNCIL WHAT ARE THE STATEWIDE POLICIES THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO ADVOCATE FOR, TO MOVE OUR STATE AS A WHOLE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.
AND I JUST AGREE WITH UPDATING THE YEAR 2050 TO 2035 TO REFLECT OUR OVERARCHING GOALS.
AGAIN, SO IF WE'RE SEEING ADVOCATE, IT NEEDS TO SEE ADVOCATES OF STATE, BECAUSE ADVOCATE IS AGAIN, WHEN I SEE IT, I'M SAYING WHEN I SEE REPRESENTATIVES, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE TO BE SPECIFIC, I SHOULD SAY, ADVOCATE UNDER CITY GOVERNMENT, OBJECTIVE C, ADVOCATE FOR STATE POLICIES, WHICH ARE FIVE.
OR MAYBE ADVOCATE TO STATE REPRESENTATIVES FOR POLICY, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER ALSO A LOT OF THIS IS REGULATION THAT ROLLS DOWN FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL. SO YOU MAY WANT TO INCLUDE THAT LARGER BODY AND THAT A LOT OF OUR LEGISLATORS DON'T HAVE A VOICE IN SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS.
THEY COME DOWN FROM EPA AND OTHER SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS, ROLL DOWN THROUGH THE STATE.
IS IT WHAT DO YOU SAY AT ALL? AND SAY, YEAH, I WOULD INCLUDE I WOULD JUST INCLUDE FEDERAL IN THE STATE OF.
YEAH. AND WE'RE STILL ALL IN AGREEMENT TO CHANGE THE YEAR FROM TWENTY FIFTEEN TO TWENTY THIRTY FIVE. OK, SO THEN GO ON TO THE NEXT.
UM. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S THIRTY FIVE IS.
THAT THE GOAL THAT I KNOW, BUT IS IT A REALISTIC GOAL? MAYBE THAT'S WHY SOMEBODY CHANGED IT? I THINK SO, BECAUSE CARBON NEUTRALITY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE TOTAL NET ZERO.
IT JUST IT MEANS THAT YOU MIGHT BE DOING THINGS TO OFFSET THE EMISSIONS THAT YOU ARE CREATING. SO CARBON NEUTRALITY IS A BIT DIFFERENT THAN I THINK.
I THINK, YES, I DID SEE LIKE NEW YORK AND THOSE OTHER STATES WERE CLOSER TO 20, 40.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OK.
WELL, I THINK WE CAN PUSH FOR 20, 30, FIVE AND.
BETTER TO PUSH IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
ON GOAL TO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES.
CAN YOU JUST DEFINE PVG AND EEVEE? I KNOW EVS ARE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WHAT'S PV? SOLAR PV IS THAT PHOTOVOLTAIC OUT? OK, AND WE DEFINE THAT IN THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT'S STARTED WITH THE ACRONYM, STARTS USING UV AND AEBI.
SO WE JUST NEED TO DEFINE WHAT THAT IS.
AND GO TO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, IT STARTS USING IT IN C AND GOES ON TO USE IT IN G AND H. AGAIN, THEN UNDER LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES, WE HAVE ON A AGAIN ADVOCATE FOR STRONGER STATE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES ALL AND AND THAT HAPPENS AGAIN IN THE COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE, BE THE SAME THINGS REPEATED.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING WE DID WITH 01 ONE AND JUST PUT IT IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT WILL THEN ADVOCATE FOR STATE AND FEDERAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR SOLAR ENERGY IS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING WE JUST DID WITH THE
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OTHER. AND.ON A BUS IN GOAL THREE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE, THE.
ENCOURAGE SUBSTANTIAL, SUSTAINABLE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGH HIGHER PRICES OR INCENTIVES FOR USING LEED CERTIFICATIONS OR OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THE BUSINESS.
WHAT IS HIGHER PRICES? DON'T I'M NOT SURE THAT DOESN'T.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A NEGATIVE IN LOWER PRICES.
YEAH. OR LOWER PRICES, HIGHER INCENTIVES, SO MAYBE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LOWER THAN PRICES, LOWER INCENTIVES.
ALL RIGHT, WHICH WHICH ONE OF THAT GOAL, THREE.
LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE C AND I WAS IN CITY OBJECTIVES, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS AT ALL. THIS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGH HIGHER PRICES.
NOT EVEN SURE BUSINESS CAN ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD DO.
THAT ENCOURAGES US TO REMOVE THAT OBJECTIVE ENTIRELY.
AND I THINK. WORKING OUT, I MEAN, THE WHOLE GOAL IS SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A BIT REDUNDANT AND IT'S WORDED VERY.
LATELY, THOUGH, A REWARD IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER WAY OF WEARING IT.
THE WATER THAT THEY PUT IT UNDER THE CITY TO ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK THE CITY HAS THAT AS A.
AND GETS IN THERE ALREADY? YEAH, THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT GREEN BUILDINGS AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WATER CONSERVATION, ET CETERA, IS THAT FOR THIS CITY TO DO VERSUS BEING A THIS IS VERSUS SAYING I'M ENCOURAGING. BUSINESSES ARE WELL, I'M WILLING TO GIVE INCENTIVES TO BUSINESSES WHO COME INTO OUR CITY THAT ME THAT ARE USING LEED CERTIFICATIONS.
LIKE. OH, I SEE AND SEE THREE SMART, SUSTAINABLE, RESILIENT CITY GOVERNMENT, THE DEVELOPED GREEN BUILDING, AND IT SAYS HELP CITY STAFF GUIDE NEW COMMERCIAL AND PUBLIC CONSTRUCTION. WE COULD SAY NEW AND EXISTING.
THAT IS THE LEAD CERTIFICATION THERE TO ASIDE FROM.
I MEAN, IT TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPING A GREEN GUIDELINE PROGRAM, IT TALKS ABOUT GREEN BUILDINGS AS EXEMPLIFIED BY LEED, BRING THE CITY CODE CLOSER TO LEAD GUIDELINES.
A. I FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE IT'S DONE GENTLY ENCOURAGING SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT IN BUILDING AND REMOVING OR REMOVING IT.
SO REMOVE C THEN THE LOCAL BUSINESS.
AND I ALSO FELT THAT THE THE FINAL COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES OF BNC SEEMED TO BE A CITY OBJECTIVE AS WELL. SO IS THE COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE, SAYS SURVEY, HOW MANY RESIDENTS USE SOLAR PANELS AND WATER CONSERVATION TECHNIQUES? I MEAN THIS THE RESIDENTS ARE SURVEYING THEMSELVES SO AND IMPROVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES THROUGH SIDEWALKS, SIGNAGE, SAFE ROUTES.
OBJECTIVE, BOTH A I MEAN, A AND B ARE GREAT, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE PLAN, BUT THEY'RE NOT THOSE AREN'T COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES, IN MY OPINION.
THEY'RE CITY. I WOULD JUST PROPOSE MOVING THEM TO THE CITY OBJECTIVES.
AGREE ON THAT. WHAT ARE YOU? I THINK YOU ADDRESSED ALL MY CONCERNS ALREADY.
BUT THAT NUMBER MAY ALSO BE A STEADY.
ALL THE COMMUNITY OBJECTS ARE GONE.
WELL. WELL, THE GOAL IS MENTIONED CITY PLANNING, SO, YEAH, I THINK IT'S OK NOT TO HAVE.
CITY PLANNING, IT'S NOT ON PRIVATE LAND, WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE BURDEN ON THE CITY.
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I THINK IT SHOULD BE THERE.YEAH, I WOULD REMOVE ALL THREE OF THOSE FROM AS COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES AND JUST PUT THEM A CITY OBJECT. ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD WAS TO ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AVAILABLE IN ALL FOUR QUADRANTS OF THE CITY.
IS THAT RIGHT NOW? IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE NORTHEAST, NOT AVAILABLE IN NORTHWEST, SOUTH, EAST OR SOUTHWEST? I THINK I THINK IT IS THAT IN TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, YOU IS TWICE ELECTRIC VEHICLES COME UP CHARGING STATIONS AND THE CHARGING STATIONS DO COME UP AND TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY. AND IT DOES TALK ABOUT PLACES.
BUT PUBLIC RADIO STATIONS, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY.
UM, YOU KNOW THAT YOU GUYS MENTION IT FOR THE RECORD, I THINK ON GOHL, THREE LOCAL BUSINESSES, OBJECTIVE A.
I THINK THAT'S ALSO A CITY CALLED.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE ASKING LOCAL BUSINESSES TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES.
LYDIE. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHERS.
WELL, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT PARKING LOTS LESSLIE GOING TO BE UNDER THAT ISN'T PARKING LOT CITY. I THINK IT'S TALKING ABOUT, OH.
IN LAUSANNE, WE WERE OH, YEAH, THE REQUIREMENTS, YEAH, THOSE ARE CITY, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN ENCOURAGE THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
MAKE THEIR. NEW PARKING LOTS, BUT THEN IT'S UP TO THE CITY, IF THE CITY CHANGES THE CODE ON IT AND IT'S NOT REALLY UP TO THE LOCAL BUSINESS, I THE THE STRENGTH OF THE WORDING ADAPT. I MEAN, IT START NOW, ADAPT EXISTING PARKING LOTS, REWEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT UNDER THE CITY.
THEN UNDER THE CITY, ARE YOU ASKING THE CITY TO ADOPT THESE PARKING LOTS? I DON'T THINK I SEE THAT LOCAL EXISTING PARKING LOT.
IT WOULD BE TO MULTIPURPOSE SPACE.
WOULD THIS BE BROKEN IN TWO GOALS? SO YOU'D HAVE A LOCAL BUSINESS CODE THAT SAYS ADAPT EXISTING PARKING LOT OR.
LET ME TRY IT AGAIN. ADAPT EXISTING PARKING LOT TO BE MULTIPURPOSE SPACES WITH AN AREA RESERVED FOR HIGH DENSITY BOVO AND THEN ANOTHER ONE FOR THE CITY, WHICH WOULD BE TO REWRITE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW PARKING LOT TO BE MULTIPLE.
I WANT TO LOSE ALL THE WORDING, ARE YOU SORRY WHEN I SAID BLAH, BLAH, BLAH? OH, IS THAT THE WORDING WOULD CONTINUE? I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE READING ALL OF IT.
JUST BASICALLY, YOU'RE TAKING OUT REWRITE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW PARKING LOTS.
YEAH, JUST MAKING THAT ITSELF A CITY OBJECTIVE THAT THEY'RE REWRITING THEM.
SO THE CITY WOULD CREATE NEW OBJECTIVES FOR NEW PARKING LOTS OF PARKING LOTS, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS POINT ON WILL BE LIKE THIS.
THEN THE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE IS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ALREADY HAVE PARKING LOTS, WE WANT YOU TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER ADAPTING THOSE TO, UH, MULTIPURPOSE SPACES.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE WITH YOU, SUSAN, THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS REALLY GOOD.
WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE IT. SO LET'S JUST TAKE WHAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY PUT IN A CITY SECTION WITH THE BUSINESSES RESPONSIBILITY PUT IN THE BUSINESS SECTION.
LIKE THAT, AND THERE IS ONE WORD ENCOURAGED, CAN YOU CHANGE THAT SOMETHING, ENCOURAGE SOLAR CANOPIES, INSTALL SOLAR CANOPIES, MAYBE EVEN PLAN FOR THE EVENTUALITY OF AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE E? THE FLEET STREET.
EIGHTH STREET. DID YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? LOCAL BESTOWAL OR.
I'VE ENCOURAGED SOLAR CANOPIES INSTALL AND THEN I MEAN, I THINK AND YOU SAY INSTALL THIS THING, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.
SO IF THEY CAME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW AND INNOVATIVE, YOU'RE LIMITED IN THEM TO INSTALL SOLAR. SO WHAT ABOUT, UM, IF WE DID, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WE DONE IN OTHER ONES OR THE IT WOULD BE ADAPT EXISTING PARKING LOT WOULD BE MULTIPURPOSE SPACES.
FOR EXAMPLE, WITH AREAS RESERVED FOR HIGH DENSITY PARKING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE THE OTHER ONES AS EXAMPLES BECAUSE THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, AN IMPLIED YOU KNOW, IN ANY OTHER GOOD IDEAS. YEAH, YEAH, I THINK SO.
ALLOWS BUSINESSES TO BE IMAGINATIVE, CREATIVE AND IMPLEMENT DIFFERENT THINGS.
WITH KEEPING THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT.
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THAT OPTION TO BE CREATIVE, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE WE HAVE STRICT RESTRICTIONS SEE ENTIRELY I WAS THINKING WE COULD USE COMPLETE STRAIGHT OR SIMILAR STRATEGIES AS C AND MAKE IT ITS OWN SEPARATE ENTITY.I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLAIN COMPLETE STRAIGHT.
LEGISLATIVE. AND IS THERE A WAY TO SUMMARIZE? AND YOU SUMMARIZE FOR US WHAT COMPLETE STREET MEANS.
I CAN COME UP WITH A DEFINITION AND SEND IT TO NICOLE, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S, UM.
IT'S WHERE THERE'S A BARRIER BETWEEN.
WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE, IT'S A GREEN BARRIER THAT CAPTURES STORMWATER RUNOFF BETWEEN WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE AND THE PEDESTRIANS ARE, THAT IS USUALLY.
IS THERE A SAFE SPACE AND IT CAPTURES RAINWATER AND YOU CREATE THE GARDEN, YOU COULD YOU COULD BREAK OFF THAT LAST SENTENCE TO A C AND THEN YOU CAN PROVIDE HER OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING WITH A FULLER DEFINITION LIKE THAT.
WHEN I LOOK AT GOOGLING COMPLETE STREET AND THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DESIGNS AND PLANS, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, THE GARDEN HAS TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH.
PAVEMENT IS ADJACENT TO IT, IT.
DEFINITION, I SEE A COMPLETE STREET IS A TRANSPORTATION POLICY AND DESIGN APPROACH THAT REQUIRES STREETS TO BE PLANNED, DESIGNED AND OPERATED, OPERATED AND MAINTAINED TO ENABLE SAFE, CONVENIENT AND COMFORTABLE TRAVEL AND ACCESSIBLE USES OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES, REGARDLESS OF THEIR MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
AND THE KIND OF, I THINK, FURTHERS WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.
COULD WE GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THIS FOR NOW, PUT IT IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT AND THEN MAYBE HAVE LIKE A PRESENTATION ON IT IN THE FUTURE? I FEEL A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE DIPPING MY TOE INTO SOMETHING THAT I HAVE A DISTINCT FEELING IS A LOT BIGGER THAN WE REALLY KNOW.
AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF I WANT TO PUT IT IN THIS PLAN.
THE IDEA IS THAT PARKING LOTS ARE DESIGNED FOR VEHICLES, AND YET EVERY VEHICLE HAS AT LEAST ONE PERSON THAT THEN HAS TO NAVIGATE THE PARKING LOT.
BUT I AGREE IT CAN GO ON THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT WITH MORE DETAIL.
I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS BEYOND PARKING LOTS THAT IT REFERS TO.
AND SO, YOU KNOW. IF PLANNERS ON STAFF WHO COULD DO A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION FOR YOU AND EXPLAIN WHAT COMPLETE STREETS ARE AND HOW WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT INCORPORATING SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS IN THE CITY THAT WE ALL.
I KNOW WE LIKE A DOCUMENT, A GROWING DOCUMENT OF PRESENTERS WE WANTED TO SEE IN THE FUTURE. COULD WE JUST FORMALLY ADD THAT, OF COURSE, IF THE BOARD IS ALL AGREED TO THIS? IDEIA, I LOVE THE WORDS THAT THEY READ, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM IN LEAVING HERE, LEAVING IT IN HERE AND PUTTING IT IN THE EXPANSION.
I THINK THIS KIND OF GIVES US A LITTLE.
IF YOU IF YOU PUT IT IN, SEE? WELL, THEN I'M PROUD OF OUR CITY AND AGAIN, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF DATING DOCUMENTS, THE COMPLETE STREET CONCEPTS WOULD.
EIGHT IS PLAN, BECAUSE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, I'M WILLING TO BET THERE'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT CONCEPT THAT IS THE CUTTING EDGE, IF YOU WILL, MANAGEMENT FOR A PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND PARKING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO IT EVOLVES OVER TIME JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE NEED TO GET IT IN HERE.
USING ITS DEFINITION WOULD BE BETTER THAN USING THE PHRASE COMPLETE STREET.
YOU COULD LEAVE IT THERE, THEN YOU COULD SAY USE THIS, LIKE YOU SAID, OR PARKING LOT DESIGN AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
ON STEPS WHEN LANDING ON WATER.
I DO JUST WANT TO KNOW MORE, FRANKLY, AND BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO.
BUT I THINK THERE IS ONCE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK BRITAIN HAS A REALLY GOOD POINT THERE, INCLUDING THE TITLE COMPLETE STREET IN THERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IT ESSENTIALLY PUT THE TIMER ON THE PLAN. RIGHT.
AS FAR AS LIKE THE FEEL OF, YOU KNOW, UM, WHETHER OR NOT IT IS, YOU KNOW, ON THE CUTTING EDGE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE OUTDATED HERE IN A SECOND, I'M SURE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS MIGHT BE, AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO WHAT WE'RE
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TALKING BEFORE, ARE THOSE THINGS THAT BUSINESSES SHOULD BE ADOPTING? ARE THOSE POLICIES THAT CITIES SHOULD BE ADOPTING? I FEEL LIKE I JUST HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.AND SO IF IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TABLE IT INTO THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT, GET A PRESENTATION, UNDERSTAND MORE, AND THEN TREAT THIS AS A LIVING GROWING DOCUMENT, BECAUSE WE MAY EVEN FIND THAT THERE'S A FEW POINTS THAT WE HAVE THAT CAN ACTUALLY KIND OF BE BUNDLED UNDER THIS IDEA IF WE ALL REALLY BUY INTO IT AND CREATE A MORE EFFICIENT REVISED DOCUMENT.
UM, SO I KNOW I SOUND LIKE A PARTY POOPER.
PHILIP, COULD WE DO BOTH? COULD WE REALLY PUT IT IN THE EXPANSION PLAN? BUT I THINK THE WORDING THAT K READ, I THINK WHERE THE CITY IS RIGHT NOW IS AT THE BEGINNING OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO INSERT THESE IDEAS IN THESE WORDINGS.
EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT THIS LAND THAT HAS TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT OR CREATION OR I THINK I SUZANNE, I JUST I DO DISAGREE WITH I WANT TO AVOID ACTUALLY THE TITLES OF PROGRAMS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THE DOCUMENT TO BE A LITTLE BROADER AND HAVE LEGS TO GO FURTHER IN MY VISION FOR THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY UNDERSTAND IF YOU DISAGREE, I WILL SAY THIS SEASON ON PLANNING AND ZONING, I REALIZE THAT THIS COMPLETE STREETS CONCEPT, WE JUST THINK OF THE PARKWAY IS NOT A COMPLETE STREET.
IT'S NOT A COMPLETE STREET BASED ON THIS DEFINITION.
RIGHT NOW, WE NEED SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW WE DO IN THE SOUTHEAST AREA WHERE WE HAVE NOTHING. SO THEREFORE, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND GROW WITHIN OUR SPEED, AT LEAST THIS FRAMEWORK, WHEREAS I DON'T BELIEVE IS A LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE, I BELIEVE IT'S A CITY OBJECTIVE, THE CONCEPT OF COMPLETE STREETS, EVEN AS NOW.
YES, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO WALK RIDE SCOOTERS TO OUR DESTINATIONS IS CRITICAL IN THE WAY WE DEVELOP. YES, RIGHT THIS SECOND AND YES, I HAVE A DISTINCT FEELING ALL THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THIS ARE ALREADY STATED IN THE PLAN ALREADY ON THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DESIGN AND CREATE PEDESTRIAN SCALE, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE AS IF WE WERE TO LOOK THROUGH. I'M SURE A LOT OF THE IDEAS ARE THERE.
I UNDERSTAND. BUT I KNOW THERE ARE TWO PARTS I AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT OF, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING IT. BUT BASED ON THE DEFINITION HERE, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
IT'S SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING INCORPORATING THAT, BUT NOT AS A LOCAL BUSINESS.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS.
I WOULD ASK NICOLE TO REWORD AN OBJECTIVE THAT INCLUDES.
STRATEGIES NOT USING THE WORD COMPLETE STREETS, BUT EXPLAIN TO US SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES OF THE CONCEPT OF COMPLETE STREETS AND INCLUDE THAT IN A AN OBJECTIVE THAT MIGHT INCORPORATE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN WE CAN REVIEW IT AFTER IT'S BEEN REWRITTEN AT TABLE, THAT DISCUSSION ON THAT POINT FOR TONIGHT SO THAT IT HAS TIME TO BE BEYOND THE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES STILL OR THAT OBJECTIVE SEEMS LIKE A CITY OBJECTIVE.
IF WE WOULD NEED TO REMOVE IT AND MOVE THAT SECTION, THAT PARKING LOT DESIGN AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, I MEAN, THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
CREATE THE PARKING LOT, BUT THE CODE FOR HOW IT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE CITY.
YEAH, BUT IF IT IS AND THIS LEADS TO THE WE MAY NEED MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BEFORE, WE INCLUDE IT IN A DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE SAYING, HEY, LET'S YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE SAYING, YEAH, BUT MAYBE THIS ISN'T A FRAMEWORK JUST FOR CITIES, MAYBE IS A FRAMEWORK FOR ANYONE, BUSINESSES OR OTHERWISE, THAT DESIGN THESE KIND OF THINGS. SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS REWORDED AND WE CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT OUR VALUES THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE MOVING ON WITH OUR NIGHT.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, SUSAN? YES. AND THE FIRST PART OF IT UNDER BUILT ENVIRONMENT, ENERGY AND BUILDINGS IN THE BEGINNING PARAGRAPH ABOUT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR DOWN NICOLE, THERE'S SOME REFERENCE LIKE NO ONE IN BRACKETS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHERE IT IS.
AND THERE'S NO NOTE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD FOR OUR EXPANSION DOCUMENT THE TERM LIVING BUILDINGS AND EXPLORE THAT MORE.
WE'RE USING GREEN BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT LIVING BUILDINGS, I THINK, IS.
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WHY, I'M. I LIKE THE OBJECTIVES, THE LANGUAGE OF OBJECTIVES, A VERY GOOD, INCLUSIVE, SAFE, RESILIENT.VERY GOOD. I WANTED TO POINT OUT A GOAL WAS, ONE, REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND GREENHOUSE GAS. CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES.
RIGHT NOW, THE CITY IS BUILDING A BUILDING BUILDING.
SO THAT'S WHY I FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT INTERJECTING THESE THOUGHTS, THESE PLANS AND ADVICE THAT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS BUILDING, E ALL THESE THINGS NEED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO A PART OF THE FLOOR OF THE CITY, NEEDS TO BE IN ALL THESE AREAS.
AND THIS SECTION MORE OR LESS, DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, LEAD BY EXAMPLE, WORK WITH THE STATE TO BUILD ALL OF IT.
ALL OF IT APPLIES COULD APPLY TO THIS NEW BUILDING E EXCEPT FOR THAT ADVOCATE FOR POLICIES THAT WAS CHANGED.
OK, THE ONLY OTHER THING, IT'S WHEREVER IT SAYS ANNUAL REPORTS, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST QUARTERLY REPORTS, REPORTS, THE LONG.
LOT IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN OR LET ME JUST.
YOU'RE. I HAVE GOOD, GOOD, GOOD THAT.
ARE SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT CITY PLANNING.
I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT, AGAIN, WHERE WHERE THE CITY IS RIGHT NOW.
NOW UNDER GOAL THREE, THAT SMART, SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT CITY PLANNING.
THERE'S A LITTLE EYE OUT THERE THAT HAS NOTHING BY IT, BUT, UM.
THE. OR OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MORE PUBLIC SPACE THROUGH REHABILITATION OR REPURPOSING OF LAND FOR RECREATIONAL SPACE.
PUBLIC SPACE REHABILITATION, REPURPOSING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO NECESSARILY LIMITED TO JUST RECREATIONAL SPACE, BUT I THINK IN.
LAW OPPORTUNITIES, I AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST IN THE FUTURE, WE WANT TO SAY DIFFERENT WORDS OR JUST STARTED WITH CREATE MORE PUBLIC SPACE THROUGH REHABILITATION OR REPURPOSING OF LAND, PERIOD.
THEY. AND THE REST OF THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
UM. THERE ARE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES NUMBER BE DOWN IN THE MIDDLE, IT SAYS ENCOURAGE SOLAR CANOPIES.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, OK. THE.
WE ARE AT NEARLY EIGHT O'CLOCK.
I THINK NOW IS A GOOD STOPPING POINT.
TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY SPECIFICALLY, I THINK IS THE LEAST THAT NEEDS THE MOST WORK OUT OF THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.
IT'S WE DEFINITELY DID NOT FINISH WHAT WE STARTED WORKING ON THERE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS TO NICOLE BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING FOR.
WHATEVER WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH TO THIS POINT, THE LAST THREE SECTIONS, WE CAN TURN THOSE IN AND THEN AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE CAN.
I THINK IF WE DO WHAT WE DID TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TIGHTEN IT UP.
VERY CLOSE. I HAD ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE LEAVE.
SO GOING BACK TO THE VERY FIRST THING WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THAT 37 PERCENT, DID WE CAN WE DO LIKE MAYBE A VOTE OR DO WE AGREE ON WHETHER TO TAKE IT OUT OR TO KEEP IT IN AND CHANGE IT FOR ACCURACY? I THOUGHT WE PUT A DATE AS OF.
YOU HAVE TO PUT A DATE, BUT THEN FOR THE PERCENTAGE, DO WE KEEP IT IN THERE AS A BECAUSE WE HAVE AS OF THIS DAY AND THEN WE HAVE ALL THOSE STATISTICS BASED ON LIKE POPULATION, HOW MANY BUSINESSES WE HAVE.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE OF DEVELOPMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO KEEP THAT OR CHANGE. IT IS IT'S WRONG, BUT CHANGE IT TO THE CORRECT PERCENTAGE.
CHANGE IT. AND THEIR INTERESTS INCLUDE.
OH, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE, UM.
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THAT WAS YOUR SUGGESTION TO MAKE IT MORE ORIENTED FOR THE FOR THE EXPANSION DOCUMENTARY.YEAH, I HOPE FOR THE UPDATE UPDATED TO THE CURRENT ACCURATE AMOUNT AND ENSURE THAT THE SENTENCE INCLUDES A TIME STAMP.
I FORGOT GOING BACK TO THAT SECTION.
ALL TO. CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE IS THOLE SMART AND.
S ENERGY LOAN FUND AND ACE ARE THESE THINGS AND THIS FPL COMMERCIAL DEMAND REDUCTION.
ARE THOSE OUTDATED OR IS THAT.
ARE THOSE STILL IN PLACE? IF YOU WANT TO RESEARCH HIS TERMS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AND SEE THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS IN THERE RIDHA.
OUR NEXT GUEST, IF THOSE SUGGESTIONS IN THE POLL HAVE THEM.
UM. THE OTHER BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.
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I HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS.BLABER EVENINGS FOR ANYONE, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SOME GOOD THINGS TO SHARE WITH YOU, THE FIRST ONE IS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ALL AWARE, BUT THE CITY HAS BEEN A PARTNER IN THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL RESILIENCE COLLABORATIVE.
WE'VE BEEN A PARTNER IN THAT ENDEAVOR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
WE JUST FINISHED OUR GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY FOR THE CITY.
SO I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WOULD BE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN KNOWING THAT WE ARE INVESTIGATING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.
WE SURVEYED OUR ELECTRIC CONSUMPTION BOTH THROUGH UTILITIES AND FLEET, AND WE ALSO SURVEYED EMPLOYEE COMMUTE INFORMATION.
SO THAT DATA IS BEING GATHERED AND ANALYZED AND WE'LL HAVE SOME VERY IMPORTANT NUMBERS COMING BACK TO US VERY SHORTLY.
SO I JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOUR CITY IS LOOKING AT THESE THINGS AND CONSIDERS THEM TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. AND WE WILL CONSIDER TO BE CONTINUED TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS COLLABORATIVE AND PARTICIPATE WITH THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR WE CAN DO TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
WE'RE ONE OF THEM. SO GOOD NEWS FOR YOU.
SECONDLY, STAFF HAS IS GOING TO BE RELEASING AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR A CALL FOR ARTISTS TO DO YOUR COVERAGE ON YOUR SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO THE YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT WILL BE ANNOUNCED VERY SHORTLY ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.
AND WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED AS TO HOW THAT IS GOING.
BUT OUR INTEREST IS MAKING SURE THAT'S READY WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR IT.
SO WE'VE STARTED WORKING ON THAT.
YOU PASS THAT ON TO US VIA EMAIL, LIKE WHEN THAT ANNOUNCEMENT COMES OUT.
WELL, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THAT OFFICIALLY ON THE WEBSITE TODAY WAS POSTED IN THAT LARGE VACANCY FOR THIS BOARD AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
LEGISLATIVE IS TAKING APPLICATIONS.
THEY'LL BE TAKING THEM THROUGH THE 26TH OF MAY.
SO IF YOU STEER FOLKS TO OUR WEBSITE, SUSTAINABILITY BOARD BOARD VACANCIES.
IS IT NO LONGER AN AT LARGE POSITION? WE HAVE AN AT LARGE POSITION THAT OPENED UP TODAY.
IT'S NOT JUST BAILIES, WE HAVE AN AT LARGE POSITION THAT OPENED UP TODAY, MR. COUNCILMAN BAILEY'S POSITION IS HIS EACH COUNCIL PERSON HAS AN APPOINTMENT THAT THEY IS THEIR PREROGATIVE TO MAKE.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO AT LARGE POSITIONS TO THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW.
YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OK, RANDALL.
BUT NOT VACANCIES WE HAVE REBECCA IS, OH, GRACIOUSLY FILLING ONE OF OUR LARGE POSITIONS.
AND SO THE OTHER ONE IS NEEDING TO BE FILLED.
AND YOU'VE BEEN ASKING US FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
IN THE CITY, AND THEN THE COUNCIL WILL SELECT SOMEBODY, THEY WILL THIS CALL FOR BOARD MEMBERS WILL RUN THROUGH MAY 26.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.
THANK YOU. OH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS MAY 11TH, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T HAVE ANY. THE NEXT MEETING IS MAY 11TH, IT WILL BE IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM IF
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YOU'VE NEVER BEEN IN CITY HALL ANNEX ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND JUST A PROCEDURAL THING, WE THE BUILDING IS TYPICALLY LOCKED AT FIVE P.M.SO WE WILL HAVE A PERSON WATCHING FOR OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO ARRIVE AND WE'LL BRING YOU INTO THE BUILDING. IS IT LATION? NORTH EAST OF HERE, IT'S JUST THIS THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE.
IT'S A BUILDING WITH ALL THE BIG BALLS IN FRONT OF IT.
THE BALLOTS, YEAH, IN THE COMMUNITY CAN STILL ATTEND GREC.
YES, SO WE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO USUALLY COME IN AND WE'LL HAVE OUR LOOK OUT PERSON WATCH OUT FOR THEM AS WELL.
OH. OH, I SHOULD HAVE GOT AN INVITATION VIA EMAIL TODAY TO THE OTHER BUSINESS AT THIS TIME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT TODAY WHEN I CALLED BRITTA AND TO TELL HER ABOUT MY HUSBAND AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU TAKE CARE OF YOU.
I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, MOTION TO ADJOURN AND A SECOND? HOWEVER, I PERSONALLY IS VERY.
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