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I'M GOING TO CALL THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING 20, 21, 06
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TO ORDER AT THIS TIME IT IS 18 31.AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT OUR VICE CHAIRMAN, LEADERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? WE OWE.
THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. SO WE HAVE NOTHING ON AS YOUR ROLL CALL, JEREMY MEDINA, PRESENT VICE CHAIRMAN JOHNSON.
YEAH, COMMISSIONER FELIX HERE.
VIRTUAL COMMISSIONER PARR HERE.
BAYFRONT SCIARRA, ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH.
SO NOTHING'S ON CONSENT, SO WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, VICE CHAIRMAN.
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YES, YES.GOOD EVENING, MIKE MCGARRY FOR ONE EIGHT SIX DIXIE HIGHWAY NE AND I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A SUBJECT WHICH I BECOME AWARE OF IN COMMUNICATING WITH JOHN OVER THE LAST WEEK.
AND I, I THINK SHE'S AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON IT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT AT A PUBLIC MEETING IN DISCUSSING ALTERNATE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES OR OR CITY OWNED PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY OF THE BAYFRONT.
I WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE THE CITY OWNED, CITY OWNED AND BACKGROUND PROPERTY ON ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL WHERE A LARGE STORMWATER POND WAS BUILT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THE PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY FUNDED BY THE BECHARA WAS FOR TO BE USED AS REDEVELOPMENT.
THAT WAS ALL PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
THE CITY AND LARGELY THE PUBLIC WORKS PAID FOR THE PORTION THAT WOULD BE A STORMWATER POND. AND BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ONE PARCEL, THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AGREED TO SPLIT THE COST OF THE LAND AND HOLD ON TO THAT PORTION, WHICH COULD HAVE REDEVELOPMENT VALUE.
AND AT THIS TIME, JOAN HAD MENTIONED TO ME THAT IT THE CIA PROPERTY GOT INTO A STORMWATER PERMIT. I'M YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW OR WHY THAT HAPPENED.
PROBABLY JUST EASIER WHEN THE PERMIT WENT IN TO CIRCLE ALL THE CITY OWNED LAND.
BUT I'M QUITE CONFIDENT THAT VERY CLOSE TO THE OTHER CITY, WATER STREET PARCELS, THERE ARE TWO BAKRA OWNED LOTS ADJACENT TO THE STORMWATER POND WHICH WERE NOT PURCHASED WITH AUTHORITY TO BE.
HELD FOREVER FOR STORMWATER, THEY'RE VACANT LOTS, THEY'RE NOT SERVING STORMWATER PURPOSE.
SO I THINK JONAH'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO THIS.
BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT AT LEAST WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD AND SAW THE DECISIONS, THOSE LOTS WERE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOLD TO SOMEONE LIKE PERHAPS ONE OF THOSE IN THE ROOM FOR TO ADD COMMUNITY VALUE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SUPPORT LOOKING INTO THAT.
SO THEY'RE NOT UNNECESSARILY KEPT IN.
WE CAN'T TOUCH THE FACE WHEN THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WERE PURCHASED FOR.
JOAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE OF WEIGH IN ON THOSE THOUGHTS? I WILL STATE THAT I'M STILL LOOKING INTO THE PERMIT.
I DID SHARE THE PERMIT DRAWINGS WITH MR. MCGARRY. JUST AS AN FYI AS TO WHAT THE STORMWATER PERMIT COVERS, I AM TALKING WITH OUR CITY ENGINEER TO IDENTIFY WHETHER THE SIERRA LEONE PROPERTIES ARE IN FACT CONSIDERED PART OF THAT PERMIT. IT APPEARS SO, BUT I'M STILL DOING MY DUTY.
I'LL BE THERE. MA'AM, THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE YOU SHARING. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. MCGARRY. AND THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO WITH THAT, MA'AM, ITEM NUMBER ONE, NO BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER ONE, OLD BUSINESS CARRY ON
[1. Consideration of purchase offers for Pelican Harbor Marina parcels]
FROM THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.A MEETING ON LAST TUESDAY, A CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE FOR PURCHASE OFFICE OFFERS FROM TWO DEVELOPERS FOR THE HARBOR MARINA PARCELS.
I WILL GIVE A SYNOPSIS AGAIN ON EACH ONE AND THEN I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO CONTEXT, THE LAST MEETING OF THE. FIRST OFFER RECEIVED BY THE CITY WAS SPACE COAST MARINAS FOR AN OFFER OF ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION OFFER PROVIDES ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR DEPOSIT WITH AN
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ADDITIONAL TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER COMPLETION OF ITS PERIOD OF 60 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE IN A CLOSING DATE OF JULY.ONE. SECOND OFFER IS FROM ADELONG REAL ESTATE MANAGER, LLC, WE RECEIVED A REVISED OFFER OVER THE WEEKEND FOR ONE POINT NINE MILLION.
OFFER PROVIDES FOR AN ADDITIONAL DEPOSIT OF ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND WITHIN THREE DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND AN ADDITIONAL TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DEPOSIT WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.
I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM JONATHAN COHEN AS A.
CONFIRMATION THAT THE ADDITIONAL TERMS, WHILE THEY DON'T CURRENTLY STATE ANYTHING NEW IN ADDITIONAL TERMS, SHOULD INCLUDE WHAT WAS AGREED UPON IN THE LAST MEETING ON LAST TUESDAY THAT THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT AND MAINTAIN THE BOARDWALK.
AT THE SPECIAL MEETING LAST TUESDAY, THE BESHARA RECEIVED TWO OFFERS AND IN DELIBERATION WE CAME TO A TIE VOTE.
AND JUST FOR RECOLLECTION, THE VOTES, THE MOTION FAILED DUE TO A TIE VOTE, BUT THE VOTES WERE AS FOLLOWS. CHAIRPERSON MEDINA NAY, VICE CHAIRPERSON JOHNSON MR. FELIX NAY BAILEY NAGU FOSTER.
OUR. IN ADDITION, I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT.
IN THE DELIBERATION AT THE LAST MEETING, ADELONG REAL ESTATE MANAGER, ELKIES ADDITIONAL TERMS DID NOT OFFICIALLY INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING DOCKS AND THE FUTURE BOARDWALK, ALTHOUGH ADELINE VERBALLY AGREED.
YOU PROVIDING CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF SUCH ADELINE'S ADDITIONAL TERMS INCLUDE A NON APPEALABLE REZONING, WHICH CANNOT BE GUARANTEED BY THE CITY CITY, TITLING THE BUYER TO THEIR DEPOSIT IF A REZONING DOES NOT OCCUR, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD EXPIRES. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OTHER INTERESTED THE OTHER INTERESTED BUYER, SPACE COAST MARINAS, IS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND THEREFORE COULD BE AN AGGRIEVED PARTY AND ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT AN APPEAL TO THE REZONING REQUEST.
ADELONG CAPITAL LATER SUGGESTED THAT THE ZERAY BOARD SELECT THE OTHER BUYERS PURCHASE CONTRACT, ADLAND WOULD BE INTERESTING IF THE ZERAY BOARD SELECTED THE OTHER BUYERS PURCHASE CONTRACT. AVALON WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IDENTIFYING OTHER ADDITIONAL PROPERTY IN THE BAYFRONT TO DEVELOP THEIR CONCEPT.
MEETING ENDED WITH CITY STAFF AGREEING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ADELONG ON THE 15TH 82 WATER DRIVE NORTHEAST PROPERTY OWNED BY THE SIIRI.
A THANK YOU, ANY SPEAKERS, VICE CHAIRMAN.
YOU MAY RECALL I SPOKE TO YOU AT THE LAST MEETING AND WAS SUPPORTIVE OF SPACE COAST MARINA'S PROPOSAL LARGELY BECAUSE IT WOULD TRULY KEEP THE WATERFRONT FULLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF PALM BAY BY BY PROVIDING A MORE TYPICAL BARINA WATERFRONT RESTAURANT CIRCUMSTANCE.
I KNOW ADELONG PLANS A MARINA, BUT MARINA IS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, BEHIND OR ADJACENT TO A LARGE HOTEL OR CONDOMINIUM, MULTIFAMILY, MANY OR MOST OF THE SLIPS END UP BEING FOR REALLY THE TENANTS OF THAT PROPERTY AND NOT NOT THE BROADER PUBLIC.
AND A HOTEL OR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS NOT TRULY A WATER DEPENDENT USE, WHEREAS TRUE MARINA FACILITY IS A WATER DEPENDENT USE.
AND TO FOLLOW THAT GRACIOUSLY, LATER IN THE LAST MEETING ON THIS SUBJECT, AVALON DEVELOPMENT OFFERED THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING AND HAPPY TO DO THEIR SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND A DIFFERENT FORM WITHIN THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT AREA TO DO A MULTIFAMILY HOTEL OR, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO THE IDEAS THEY'RE THERE TENTATIVELY PLANNING FOR THE MARINA PROPERTY.
AND TO ME, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, IN THE WORDS OF ADELONG, YOU COULD HAVE BOTH PROJECTS.
SO I THINK IT'S REALLY WOULD BE AN ENORMOUS WIN WIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SPACE COAST MARINAS, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE MORE TIMELY BECAUSE THE THE REZONING OF AVALON WILL BE CONTENTIOUS.
AS JOAN SAID, IT COULD BE APPEALED OR CHALLENGED BY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND I'M MARRIED TO ONE WHO MAY, YOU KNOW, ASK ME TO APPEAL THAT.
IT'S JUST IT'S NOT WHAT THE THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA HAS DESIRED OVER THE YEARS, BOTH
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IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A RESIDENT AS WELL AS SITTING ON THE CRA BOARD.SO I THINK THE WINWIN OF TAKING ADELONG UP ON THEIR OFFER TO FIND SUITABLE PROPERTY NEARBY, THERE IS ACREAGE ON US, ONE WITH FOR SALE SIGNS, THREE ACRES OF MULTIFAMILY JUST A QUARTER MILE TO THE NORTH OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY ON WATER STREET.
IN COMBINATION WITH THE SCIARRA PROPERTY I JUST MENTIONED NEAR ORANGE BLOSSOM, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLOW AVALON TO DO THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND LET BOTH DEVELOPERS FEED OFF EACH OTHER AND GET A WIN WIN.
SO MOVING FORWARD WITH SPACE COAST MARINAS, WHICH GETS MONEY SOONER AND AT A MUCH LOWER RISK WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
AARON CIVIL. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MARIANNE CIVIL 13 OH ONE LIBERTY STREET NE PALM BAY, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE READ MY LETTER.
I COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE FOR THE LAST MEETING AND SO IT PRETTY MUCH OUTLINES EXACTLY WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE ON IT.
SO AS MIKE SAID, I PREFER THAT THE BOARD AWARD, THE SPACE COAST MARINA, EVEN THOUGH WITH THE NEW CHANGE IN THE AMOUNT THAT IS BEING OFFERED BY AVALON, I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THE PURCHASE PRICE INVOLVED WITH THIS.
THERE'S MANY, MANY YEARS OF THE CITIZENS IN THE BAY FRONT AREA GOING TO MEETINGS, GOING TO WORKSHOPS, TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO DECIDE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND WE WENT IN GOOD FAITH.
AND I HOPE THIS BOARD PROCEEDS IN GOOD, GOOD FAITH WITH THE CITIZENS OF THAT AREA, BECAUSE IN EVERY SINGLE WORKSHOP THAT I ATTENDED, WHICH WAS MOST OF THEM, CITIZENS OVERWHELMINGLY WANTED TO KEEP ACCESS AND THE MARINA AS A GOING CONCERN.
WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS SINCE THE PADDLING PARADISE HAS TAKEN OVER THE CITY MARINA, YOU HAVE HORDES OF PEOPLE ON WEEKENDS ENJOYING THE CREEK.
AND IT'S THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS, LOW IMPACT.
GETTING THE PEOPLE TO ENJOY THE CITY'S BEST ASSET IS REALLY WHAT I THINK CAN PROPEL THIS WHOLE AREA. AND REALLY ALL YOU NEED IS A FEW OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO GET THE BALL ROLLING AND TO GET MORE AMENITIES INTO THAT NE BAYFRONT AREA.
SO I HOPE YOU MAKE WHAT I CONSIDER THE RIGHT DECISION AND LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE BOTTOM LINE, BUT AT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY IN THIS AREA, THE NORTHEAST AREA THAT WANT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
NEXT WEEK. COMMISSIONERS, I THINK I'LL START I'M A I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED AT THIS TIME, AND I'LL SHARE WITH YOU WHY MY HEART, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS TO HAVE A LANDMARK IN THAT AREA.
MY HEART HAS BEEN TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND WITH AVALON JOINING US IN THAT PARTNERSHIP, CREATING THAT LANDMARK AND I KNOW THAT A NICE HOTEL IN THAT AREA WOULD WOULD REALLY BRING THAT TYPE OF OF INDUSTRY I BELIEVE IN.
IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME IN AT THE SAME TIME.
I'M I'M BEING CONSCIOUS OF THE LEGAL COMPONENT TO THIS, THE LEGAL FEES THAT MAY BE ENSUED BY AVALON AND AND THEIR COMMENT OF THEM WILLING TO WORK WITH SOME SOME OTHER PROJECT.
I JUST I'M AT A POINT WHERE I NEED TO KNOW IF THAT IS FEASIBLE, IF WOULD AVALON BE ABLE TO BUILD A HOTEL NEAR THE BAYFRONT? AND SO HOW WHAT KIND OF ASSURANCES WOULD WE HAVE? WOULD I WOULD I CONSIDER HAVING IN BRINGING UP A HOTEL IN THAT TYPE OF AREA? CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? MS., JOAN? I THINK THAT IF ADALINE WERE TO LOOK AT ANOTHER PROPERTY IN THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, IT WOULD STILL LIKELY FACE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE ZONING, THE BMV ZONING, WHICH. IT'S REZONING TO BAMU BECAUSE, NO, WE HAVEN'T YET RECEIVED THE TEXTUAL
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AMENDMENTS THROUGH AND CITY COUNCIL.I CAN'T WITH CONFIDENCE SAY RIGHT NOW THAT THEIR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED UNDER BMV, THERE IS THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RESTRICTIONS, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY RIGHT NOW THAT THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE, BUT.
INSTEAD, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
CERTAINLY, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK MORE WITH LARRY BRADLEY TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER THAT IS FEASIBLE. I CAN'T WITH CONFIDENCE RIGHT NOW SAY THAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED IT ALL.
OBEDIENT TO COMMISSIONER BAILEY, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME.
YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, MY MY FEELINGS ON IT IS THAT IT'S BEEN CLEAR THAT THE FULL SCOPE OF THE ADLEN DECISION MIGHT NOT BE COMPLETELY ATTAINABLE.
BUT IT'S ALSO SHOWN THAT EVEN IF THEY DO, HALF OF THAT IS STILL GOING TO BE OVER 30 MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT. SO I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT REGARDLESS OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES, THAT THEY WILL HAVE A WAY OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY IF COUNCIL CONTINUES FOLLOWING THROUGH ON SOME OF THE ZONING CHANGES THAT NO DETECTABLE CHANGES TO THAT SO THAT ZONING IS AVAILABLE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THINKING OVER THE PROJECTS, LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS CLOSER, AND I GIVE KUDOS TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR FOR POINTING OUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THAT I ALWAYS LIKE POINT OUT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM IT AS FAR AS THE COST AND BENEFITS OF NOT JUST ONE SIDE OF IT, CERTAINLY NOW THERE'S A WHOLE THERE'S A HUGE BENEFIT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DENIES THAT IS GOING TO PUT MORE INTO IT.
WHEN I LOOK AT WHEN I LOOK AT THE ADLEN PROJECT, THERE IS MULTIFAMILY INVOLVED, THERE IS NO GUARANTEES EXACTLY HOW THAT MULTIFAMILY WILL LOOK.
AND AS I KIND OF PLAYED OUT SCENARIOS IN MY HEAD, I STILL THINK THAT IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE OTHER PROJECT IS NOT RESIDENTIAL.
THAT WOULD BE PURELY COMMERCIAL, WOULD BE PURELY AMENITY AND BENEFIT IS WHAT I SEE THERE.
SO THAT THAT HAS ME MY HAS MY VOTE REOPENED.
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR TWO REASONS, NOT JUST BECAUSE THIS HAD WE HAD A THREE THREE TIE UP HERE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE HAD A THREE TWO ON COUNCIL, WHICH COULD BE DIFFERENT FROM THE MAJORITY ON THIS BOARD.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COUNCIL VOTES KIND OF WAY TWICE PUT IT THAT WAY.
THERE'S ONLY TWO TWO THINGS TO GO THROUGH.
AND WHAT I SEE HERE TONIGHT, I DID HAVE A TALK WITH MIKE EARLIER TODAY.
I SEE THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM FRIGATES HERE TONIGHT.
HOPEFULLY THEY CONTINUE TO SHOW INTEREST AND ESTABLISHING QUALITY RESTAURANT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THAT PROJECT.
I KNOW ADELINE'S OPEN TO THEM AS WELL.
BUT THE ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD THAT I THINK THAT FOR ME AT LEAST, AND THAT WOULD REALLY SWAY MY VOTE IS IF WE CAN MATCH THE PRICE, WE CAN MATCH A PRICE THAT I CAN ROLL WITH IT, BECAUSE I REALLY SEE BOTH THE PROJECTS BEING VERY GOOD.
BUT I SEE A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THE ADLON PROJECT.
I SEE A LOT OF COSTS THAT ARE UNKNOWN, THAT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO IF I COULD GET MY IN SPACE, BECAUSE MARINA IS TO AGREE TO MATCHING THE PRICE OF ONE POINT NINE, I THINK I THINK I'M READY TO SIGN THE DEAL, ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE STILL THE SAME WILL ACROSS THE BOARD.
COMMISSIONER FILIBERTO, YOU WERE IN PRISON AT THE LAST MEETING, SO I THINK YOU'VE HEARD TWO COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN OR DO YOU WANT TO SAVE YOURSELF FOR FOUR COMING? THANK YOU, SIR. GO AHEAD, WEIGH IN.
I JUST LIKE TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, PROJECTS ARE REMARKABLE.
MR. OFFICE SPACE COAST MILENA'S.
I REALLY DO LIKE YOUR CONCEPT.
HOWEVER, I DO FEEL THAT A MARINA IN THAT AREA WILL BE REDUNDANT WITH PALM BAY MARINA ACROSS THE WAY ACROSS TURKEY CREEK AND ALSO PUBLIC PARK MARINA RIGHT BESIDE YOU.
I AM IN FAVOR OF. WE DID THIS BOARD RECENTLY WORKED ON FOR THE PAST YEAR OF BEING NEW ZONING, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT PMU ZONING TO THE TEST I BELIEVE IS CONTROLLED, ORGANIZED AND RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT WITH THAT ZONING CODE.
AND I FEEL THAT ANYONE WILL ADHERE TO THAT.
I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT LOT HAS LOCALS INVOLVED FROM SURVEYING TO THE RIBBON CUTTING.
IT'S GOING TO BE ALL LOCAL WORK.
NO, NO, NOBODY FROM OUT OF COUNTY.
SO ALSO, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT THERE USED TO BE A HOTEL ON US ONE QUARTER THERE IN THE BASEMENT AREA THE DAY, THEN THE FEW MOTELS AND THEY'RE ALL GONE AND THEY'RE NOT GONE
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BECAUSE PEOPLE PEOPLE STARTED LOOKING AT THOSE HOTELS.THEY'RE GONE BECAUSE THOSE HOTELS BECAME DILAPIDATED.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I AM IN FAVOR OF ADDING IT.
THANK YOU, MR. FELIX. SO, I MEAN, IN MANY WAYS, I FEEL THE SAME. ALTHOUGH IT'S A SMART MOVE FROM SPACE COAST MARINA SHOWING UP WITH SCOTT SITTING NEXT TO.
WELL, OK, JUST AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY BRILLIANT, JUST JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY IF YOU'RE JUST HERE IN THE CROWD, JUST JUST BE HERE.
ALTHOUGH THAT BEING SAID, I'M STILL.
I'M LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS, AS THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED, THE POTENTIAL LEGAL ASPECT THAT CAN HOLD UP THE PROJECT, I'M STILL LEANING STRONGLY LEANING TOWARDS AVALLONE. I LIKE THAT PROJECT.
I THINK IT WILL BRING A LOT MORE VALUE TO THE AREA CONSIDERING THE SHORTAGE OF OF HOTELS WE HAVE IN PALM BAY. I THINK REALLY BOTH PROJEC, AS I SAID, IS GREAT, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK FOR THE TIME BEING STILL REMAIN THE FACT THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE A PROJECT SUCH AS AVALLONE, HOPEFULLY.
YOU KNOW, WE GET WHAT WE'LL CONSIDER TAGGING ALONG WITH WHICHEVER ONE THAT HAD TO WIN, SO BUT I'M STILL LEANING TOWARDS THE AVALON PROJECT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER LIKE TO WEIGH IN? I'D LIKE TO BRING UP THE COPY, THE STEP FORWARD, SIR.
AND CHAIRMAN, CAN WE GET MIKE TO ALSO ANSWER THE.
OH, YES, SIR. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE LAST PLACE I EXPECTED TO BE YOU SPEAK VETERAN.
THIS IS KIND OF THE LAST PLACE I EXPECTED TO BE RIGHT NOW.
BUT MIKE HAS BEEN VERY PERSISTENT.
HE'S BEEN AT FRIGATES NUMEROUS TIMES, JUST TRYING TO GET US TO GET ON BOARD.
WE'VE STRUCK HIM, YOU KNOW, THE BEGINNINGS OF A GOOD FRIENDSHIP.
AND THIS PAST THURSDAY, STEVE CAME AND I ALL MET AT FRIGATES TO DISCUSS SOMEWHAT OF A PARTNERSHIP ON THIS PROJECT.
AND, YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
SO ONCE YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, FRIGATES IS STILL, I GUESS, IN THE MIX, IN THE RUNNING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH MIKE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AND SO YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH MIKE.
AND WHAT ABOUT AVALON? ARE YOU WILLING TO. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH AVALON.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM AS PEOPLE OR, YOU KNOW, THEIR BACKGROUNDS, YOU KNOW.
MIKE IS MET WITH YOU KNOW, I'VE MET HIS WIFE, I'VE MET, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR KIDS, SO WE'VE GOTTEN PRETTY FAR INTO, YOU KNOW, A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW.
I'M VERY AMBITIOUS, I WANT TO BUILD FRIGATES, AND SINCE I'M WORKING ON A PROPERTY AS WELL RIGHT NOW AND I ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT ON, I'M DOING MY DUE DILIGENCE AND WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE ALMOST THE DOCKS IN PLACE.
AND I JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT A COUPLE MORE THINGS UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW.
I WON SEVERAL FRIGATES I DON'T WANT JUST TWO IS THE ONE YOU'RE WORKING ON CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IT IS NOT.
WELL, WE WOULD HAVE AND I KNOW THIS BOARD.
WE SHARED OUR SENTIMENTS ABOUT HAVING KIDS IN PALM BAY, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT. YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MIKE'S THE ONE WHO'S BROUGHT US BACK INTO THIS.
SO LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T EXPECTING TO BE HERE AGAIN.
IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
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THANK YOU, MIKE.MEAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. STAND BY.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION, MR. SCOTT? YES. YES, I'M ON IT.
YES, SIR. CAN YOU TELL ME IF YOU WANT TO OPEN A FRIGATES AND PALM BAY? HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL TAKE? ABOUT 100. MY ONE IN NORTH PALM, THAT'S ABOUT 85, THE ONE IN MELBOURNE HAS ABOUT 115, SO SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE THERE, PROBABLY 100.
WHAT'S YOUR CUSTOMER? HOW MANY CUSTOMERS COMES TO THE BIGGEST RESTAURANT OWNER? ABOUT 5000.
AND YOU THINK THIS MARINA CAN DO THE SAME? I THINK OR BETTER.
THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD AND HONESTLY.
THE QUESTION THAT I'M ASKED, THE SAME QUESTION I'M ASKED RIGHT NOW OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS WHEN ARE YOU GUYS OPENING IN PALM BAY? IT'S HANDS DOWN WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME AND RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING, I WAS LIKE, NO, WE PULLED OUT WHERE WE MOVED ON TO ANOTHER LOCATION AND.
NO. WE'RE IN PRELIMINARY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T PROMISE ANYTHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY IN TALKS WITH MIKE.
I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
YEAH, I'M A NORMAL GUY AND I LIKE TO.
YEAH. THE NUMBERS AND OH, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE A LONG TERM RESTAURANT.
IT WAS THE REST WORSTER BUSINESS OFFSET FROM HAVING A FREEGATE.
WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE EXACTLY FRIGATES.
IT WOULD BE A LITTLE SPIN ON FRIGATES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHILE I'M BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WE HAD PULLED OUT IS.
WE WOULD SPEND PROBABLY A YEAR DEVELOPING THE MENU FOR THAT LOCATION.
BY PUTTING IT ON A SPECIALS MENU AT FOUR GETS HERE, SO, YOU KNOW, AND.
EXACT THING, BECAUSE I'M AFRAID IT WOULD CANNIBALIZE EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE COULD PUT A SPIN ON IT, THAT IT WOULDN'T HURT EITHER RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, BEING SO CLOSE. SO THAT'S OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T DO IT.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST WOULDN'T BE BUSINESS.
THIS ACTION YOU WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD AN PALM BAY, THESE PALM BAY RESIDENTS ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THEY ARE, IT'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING UP TO ME, THEY'RE MARRIED ON THEIR SATELLITE BEACH, THEY'RE MELBOURNE BEACH, THEY'RE PALM BAY, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THANK YOU, SIR.
I PREFER MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD HAVE ONE QUESTION.
SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE SITE.
YOU DID ORIGINALLY HAVE A BIT OF A LETTER OF INTENT, THEN WITHDREW.
IS THERE ANOTHER SITE IN PALM BAY YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN? SHOULD THIS NOT BE THE ROUTE? NOT THAT WE HAVE FOUND.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND I WANTED TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MIKE TO STEP UP.
I THINK COMMISSIONER BAILEY AS A HANGING QUESTION.
AND YOU KEEP AND YOU KEEP SMILING AS WELL AS YOU LISTEN TO OUR PROJECT, AND I THINK INITIAL ESTIMATES WERE IN SOMEWHERE IN THE 10 TO 12 MILLION DOLLARS, PROBABLY GOING TO BE CLOSER TO 15 MILLION WITH THE INCREASE IN AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS TODAY.
AND I'M SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE OF WHAT STEELES HAS GONE UP AND WHAT LUMBER HAS GONE UP.
SO 100000 DOLLARS DOESN'T REALLY MAKE OR BREAK A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
IF IF ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THIS OVER THE LINE, THEN BY ALL MEANS, WE WILL INCREASE TO ONE POINT NINE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AGAIN, TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO GET SOMETHING DONE EFFICIENTLY. WE ARE A WATER DEPENDENT.
WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE MARKETPLACE.
AS I LOOK AT EXPANDING, WHAT WHAT WOULD I DO? AND THIS IS A FACILITY THAT I'VE LOOKED AT FOR THE LAST FOUR PLUS YEARS.
SO IT IS A LANDMARK FACILITY CHAIRMAN, AS YOU SAID.
AND YOU PROBABLY NEED HOTELS, BUT PEOPLE DON'T COME TO HOTELS UNLESS THEY HAVE A DRAW.
YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T BUILD HOTELS AND THEN DISNEYLAND.
SO THEY BUILD DISNEYLAND AND THEN ACCOMMODATE HOTELS.
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I BELIEVE THAT IN THIS AREA AND THIS MARKETPLACE, WE ARE GOING TO BE THAT DRAW FOR PALM BAY WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO OUT ON THE WATER, WHETHER IT'S ON THEIR THEIR THEIR PADDLEBOARDS OR THEIR KAYAKS AND CANOES, THEIR BOATS, HAVING A BOAT CLUB, JUST EVERYTHING THAT BENEFITS FROM BEING A WATER DEPENDENT FACILITY.AND WE WILL WE WILL INCREASE OUR OFFER TO ONE POINT NINE IF THAT HELPS US GET GET MOVING ON THIS. WELL, THEN ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF MIKE WALLACE, COMMISSIONER FOSTER.
THE DOCKS BEING AT THIS LOCATION, YOU COULD SEE MORE OF THE BOATING COMMUNITY SHOWING UP.
ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, THERE WILL BE SO THERE'S AN EXISTING SUBMERGED LAND LEASE IN PLACE.
I SPENT TIME WITH THE CITY TODAY AND ALSO LOOKED AT HOW THAT CAME ABOUT AND WHAT YOU CAN DO ALSO ON THE BULK OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT PROBABLY CAN BE DONE ON POTTERSVILLE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. I HAVE RESEARCHED A LOT, WENT BACK TO THE 50S TO SEE WHAT HAS OCCURRED OVER TIME ON THE PROPERTY.
IT WILL BE A BOATING DESTINATION.
OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO COME VIA THEIR AUTOMOBILE AS WELL.
BUT MY HOPES ARE PEOPLE WILL COME TO THE FACILITY AND AND SINCE IT'S AN OUTSIDE VENUE AND AND WE'LL HAVE ENTERTAINMENT AND MUSIC, THEY'LL BE COMING FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS.
BUT THE YOU KNOW, THE MAIN FOCUS OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE PEOPLE ENJOY THIS WATER, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IN TWO YEARS AND FIVE YEARS, BUT IN 25 YEARS.
SO IT WILL BE A BOATING COMMUNITY LIKE I BELIEVE PALM BAY SHOULD BE.
YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING SUCH A BUSINESS LIKE THIS.
I ADD TO MY PREVIOUS ROLES AS AN EXECUTIVE OFFICER IN FORTUNE 200 COMPANY, I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ACQUIRING REAL ESTATE AROUND THE COUNTRY AND ALSO BUILDING SPECIFICALLY A BUILD OUT OF A RESTAURANT.
AND RETAIL STORES WILL BE DIFFERENT FOR ME, BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE THE BACKGROUND.
AND AND I SPENT TIME WITH A LARGE DEVELOPER WHO WAS A FRIEND OF MINE TODAY.
AND THEY HAVE THE EXPERTIZE TO TO BUILD IT WITH ME.
AND I HAVE DEEP CONNECTIONS THAT I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
WHAT WAS THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES? I'M LOOKING AT THIS PACKAGE.
SHOWS 302 EMPLOYEES, SO THE WAY THAT I ARRIVED AT THE EMPLOYEES AND LOOKED AT EACH INDIVIDUAL AND AGAIN, THERE'S THERE'S GOING TO BE DEPENDING ON THE RETAIL FACILITIES THAT GO IN THERE, THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE.
COULD BE A LITTLE LESS. I ASKED SCOTT CALLED HIM UP AND SAID, HEY, EXACTLY THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASK HIM HOW MANY EMPLOYEES YOU HAVE.
SO SOME OF IT'S BASED ON HIS ANOTHER FRIEND WHO HAS COMMITTED OWNS A T FATALES.
I'VE ASKED HIM HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE? SO I BASED IT ON ACTUAL BUSINESSES THAT I BELIEVE WILL GO IN THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM.
I WOULD SAY MOST, BUT SOME PEOPLE THAT BOATS.
IT WAS THE PULL UP IN THE DOCK SAVE, I WANTED TO STAY A NIGHT MORE LIKE THAT, I'M GOING TO BE SLEEPING ON MY BOAT, RIGHT.
IF YOU ARE A TRANSIENT VOTER NOW, THE FACILITY DOES NOT ALLOW LIVE ABORTIONS, TRANSIENT, AGAIN, WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD TALK WITH THE EPPY.
IS THAT EVEN ALLOWED? BUT FOR THE MAJORITY, THE FACILITY IS VOTING IN AND OUT.
WILL PEOPLE ON OCCASION HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO AN OVERNIGHT ON THEIR VOTE? MORE THAN LIKELY, YES. BUT THAT'S THAT IS I'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND TAKE A LOOK AT I MEAN, I'VE READ THIS AND THIS.
I'D HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL FROM THAT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL PROTECTION.
THANK YOU, SUSAN. SAME WITH ANY TRANSITION.
IF WE SAID, OK, WE WANT TO HAVE A TRANSIENT DOCK SET UP SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY WANT TO DO.
SO WE STILL HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE DP TO DO THAT.
AND MY HOPES ARE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THAT IF I'M AWARDED, THAT WE ALSO GO OUT INTO THE BAY AND LOOK AT A MOORING FIELD AND THOSE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE OVERNIGHT TRAVELERS AS THEY GO UP AND DOWN THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY WITH US OPERATING BASICALLY SHOWERS, WHICH WHICH WE WILL BUILD ANYWAY.
AND YOU NEED A PLACE FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR DOCKS INTO.
SO IT'S A PERFECT AREA FOR A MOORING FIELD FOR PALM BAY.
YOU MIGHT GET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE FLOOR.
YOU WILL GET LARGER BOATS UP AND DOWN THE INTERCOASTAL.
IF THEY HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN DOCK IN A SECURE MOORING FIELD, WHICH PALM BAY IS, AND
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THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND GET FOOD AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR PUTTING IN THIS AREA.HAVE YOU HEARD ANY WORD ON THE STREET, ON THE STREET, ON A BOATING COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT A LOCATION LIKE THIS AND PALM BAY MOORING FIELDS RIGHT NOW ARE VERY POPULAR.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AND THAT'S WHY FLORIDA AND ALSO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES GRANTS FOR MOORING FIELDS. THERE'S A BOATING INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT THAT YOU CAN GET.
THERE'S JUST THERE'S SO MANY BOATS THAT ARE 27 FOOT AND LARGER THAT ARE TRAVELING THE INTERCOASTAL WITH NO SLIPS.
MY TRANSIENT DOCKS ARE ALWAYS FULL.
THERE'S THEY'RE JUST LIMITED RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF VOTES THAT ARE OUT IN THE WATER NOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
BEFORE MIKE, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I CAN'T MAKE A VISUAL OF COMMISSIONER FILIBERTO HE'S ON THE LINE AND I WANTED TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY IF HE WANTED TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR. OK, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OF MIKE, NO QUESTIONS FOR MIKE.
SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE QUESTIONED COMMISSIONER BAILEY.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THESE MORE BOATS AND BIGGER BOATS COMING THROUGH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANY ISSUES WITH PASSING UNDERNEATH US ONE.
ISSUES WITH WHAT AC UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, U.S.
ONE, THAT'S WHY THE MORNING FIELD IS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR LARGER BOATS.
THERE'S NO CHANCE THAT MAJORIE SO THEY'LL BE SAILBOATS, LARGER, MORE YACHT YACHTS, BOATS THAT CAN'T GET UNDER THE THE U.S.
SO SO THEY COULD BE OUT IN THE HARBOR.
THEY DEENIE INTO A DOCK, THEY BRING THINGS IN AND WE HAVE A PUMP OUT STATION, WHICH WOULD BE A BOAT THAT WOULD GO OUT, PUMP THEM OUT, BRING THEM IN AND BRING THEM IN TO SPEND MONEY, QUITE FRANKLY.
AND THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK IN IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY IF IT COULD BE A CITY OWNED MOORING FIELD.
AND WE MANAGE IT. LIKE I SAY, THERE'S GRANTS THAT GIVE YOU THE MAJORITY OF THAT PAY FOR.
APPRECIATE THAT AND JUST THINK I KNOW THAT.
THANK YOU, SCOTT, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, FOR BRINGING HIM OUT.
OBVIOUSLY, WHATEVER WE HAVE THERE, WE WANT A QUALITY RESTAURANT.
AND THAT WAS WHILE THAT WAS IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT TO US.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE NUMBERS THAT THEY BRING WEEKLY, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE FACILITY AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND AS MUCH TIME, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THAT.
THE THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL BELIEVE THAT FRIGATES IS A GOOD THING I DO AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I GO TO THE RESTAURANT, I WALK THERE EVEN BEFORE WE HAD MET, THEY RUN A CLASS OPERATION. AND AS I WAS, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, A IF YOU GET THE RIGHT RESTAURANT IN ONLY TO BRING PEOPLE, BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, AS MAYBE YOU KNOW AND I'LL USE BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONER SAID GENTRIFICATION, AS THERE'S MORE MONEY FLOWING IN, YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MENU, BUT YOU DON'T GO FROM A CHEAP MENU AND TRY AND GO UP.
THAT DOESN'T WORK. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET A QUALITY RESTAURANT IN.
AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.
THANK YOU. KNOW THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS ALL MAYOR, I JUST SAY I THOUGHT MAYBE THE VICE CHAIR MIGHT COME OVER ME AND ASK FOR TO SIT AT ONE POINT NINE, BUT I WASN'T SURE.
MAKE SURE THAT HE'S BACK. NOW, I WAS PRETTY SURE SOMEONE WAS ASKING.
THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE THE VIBE FROM ME IS GOING TO GO DOWN THAT PATH, BUT CERTAINLY HE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK. LISTEN, I'VE ALLOWED I'VE ALLOWED TO HAVE ALLOWED YES.
I'VE ALLOWED MIKE TO SPEAK OR THE SPACE COAST MARINAS.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE AVALON AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS WELL.
SO WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? HI, HOW ARE YOU, EVERYBODY? MY NAME IS READY IT.
I'M NOT ALONE. WE ARE I CAN TELL YOU OUR BACKGROUND.
WE ARE ORIGINALLY FROM VENEZUELA, ONE OF THE GROUPS WE SPEAK.
WELL, I'M PART OF THAT GROUP ARE FROM VENEZUELA, SOUTH AMERICA AND THE OTHER PART OF THE GROUP, MEXICO, VENEZUELA, MUCH BETTER.
AND THEN WE WE COMBINE FORCES AND WE WE WE ARE HERE.
WE ARE AMERICANS. VERY, VERY JUST DIRECT.
WE ARE AMERICANS ALREADY VERY PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN.
I THINK THE AMERICANS UNDERSTAND WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY YOU ARE, REALLY.
AND PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO COME FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AND.
I'M LOSING EVERYTHING, OBVIOUSLY, OUR BROYARD, IT'S.
NO SAFE CITY EXACTLY WHERE MORE AND MORE AMBITIOUS LEADER, LITTLE BIT MORE LANDMARKS FOR THE PALM BAY. WE LIKE TO DO THINGS.
BUT THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE OF THE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND AND I UNDERSTAND I JUST WHAT I MEANT FROM MIKE IS HE'S A GREAT GUY, HE'S FROM HERE.
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AND WHAT I'M LISTENING TO, ONLY I CAN OFFER YOU BECAUSE WE'RE A DEAL MAKER.WE DON'T WANT ONE ANY PROBLEM IN THE INTERIM.
AND IF YOU GIVE IT TO US AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ONE YEAR TRYING TO GET AN APPROVAL, DOESN'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME FOR YOU, FOR US, FOR THEM.
SO WHAT I SEE IS YOU WANT A COMPONENT OF A HOTEL, THERE IS A VERY GOOD RESTAURANT, THERE IS COMMON HERE AND A MARINA WE IF EVERYBODY WANTS, WE CAN DO ON A HOTEL.
AND WHATEVER THE REASON YOU LIKE IT, I KNOW ALL THE BRANDS WE HAVE OVER 30 OR ODELL'S AND AND WE ALSO OF MIX AND MIX USE, YOU KNOW, LAND.
WE'RE GOING TO DO HOPEFULLY CONVENTION IN PALM BAY.
WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE AREA.
YOU AND I KNOW ABOUT US A LOT AND GOD, BUT WE JUST WANT TO TRY TO MAKE THE DEAL HAPPEN.
I MEAN. WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU IF IT IS A CERTAINTY.
I WILL TELL YOU, I WILL BE MORE PUSHING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A MORAL LANDMARK.
I'M GOING TO KEEP THE MARINA AND OUR PRIORITIES A MARINA THAT IS A COMMERCIAL SIDE.
WE WANT TO PUT OUR LOCAL RESTAURANT, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE HAPPY AND I WANT A WIN WIN SITUATION. SO WHAT I CAN OFFER IS A HOTEL.
THE PROIECT, IF IS POSSIBLE, TO OUR HOTEL, TO THE PROIECT, AND WE WE THE HOTEL SITE.
AND AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPLEMENTARY, YOU GIVE VALUES, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE WORKING IN OTHER LANDS. I THINK THIS ONE ALSO HAS POTENTIAL.
WE CAN DO THE MULTIFAMILY OR CONDOMINIUM.
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER LINE TRIED TO DO THAT IN A HOTEL IN D-LINE.
I JUST WANT THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY AND FOR THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY, FOR US, FOR THEM, TO BE HONEST, IT'S GOOD THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IT COUNCILMAN OR MR. FOSTER. I MEAN, LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS TO PARTNER UP WITH SPACE COAST MARINA AND JUST PUT A HOTEL.
ON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MARINA, THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
MARINA, WITH A RESTAURANT HERE ALREADY TALKING.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IN AND I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR A HOTEL IN THE AREA AND THERE IS U.S. TRIPLE USA IN THE AIR.
THEY NEED A LOT OF ROOMS. AND TO PROMOTE MORE, THE AREA HAVE TWO HOTELS HERE AND THERE PICKING UP, THANK GOD.
AND I THINK WE CAN PUT UP THE HOTEL.
SO I THINK WE CAN PUT OUR HOTEL THERE AND EXTEND THE STAY.
I NEED TO TALK TO THE BROADCAST.
I CANNOT PUT THE RITZ CARLTON, BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK IT OUT.
SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, A NICE, NICE HILTON OR MARRIOTT.
YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN WORK IT OUT, OK.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M OFFERING.
I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD CHANGE THE ZONING.
WELL, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ALWAYS SO I MEAN.
MR. IS ONE, IF WE PUT FOUR OR FIVE.
NO ONE IS GOING TO SEE. WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SAY FOR YOU, FOR, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SEE HERE, ONLY TWO MORE, JUST ANOTHER ZERO.
I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR RESTRICTION FOR JUST THE HOTEL.
I REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE CIA.
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, THOUGH.
I'M GLAD YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
OH, NO, I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE ANY.
IF YOU CAN DO THE. WE NEED REZONING FOR THE HOTEL ON THE.
WE KNOW IF IT'S COMMERCIAL, I BELIEVE IT'S I I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK, IT IS GOING TO BE A MOVIE IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE PROPERTIES TO WATER DRIVE.
IT HAS THE SAME ZONING RESTRICTIONS, HOWEVER, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE ZONING.
I DON'T SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH THE HOTEL.
I THINK THE ONE RESTRICTION IS GOING TO BE HEIGHT.
THE MIX OF USES THAT YOU HAD PROPOSED ON THE MARINA PROPERTIES WITH THE OFFER YOU
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SUBMITTED. THAT IS WHAT.SEVERAL CHALLENGES WITH THE ZONING, I KNOW, INCLUDING THE HEIGHT, BUT I WOULD JUST DOUBLE CHECK, I WASN'T PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING, WE CAN WORK IT OUT TOGETHER.
WE DON'T NEED IS IS NOT GOING TO BE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY ROOMS. AND WE'RE TALKING SOMETHING THAT THE MARKET CAN ALLOW.
AND ALSO, WITHOUT DISTURBING ANY OF THE PROFITS, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT THE THUMBS UP TO CITY MANAGER THAT ITS HOTEL IS PERMISSIBLE UNDER THAT, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION COMPONENT TO THAT.
AND THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION, THERE IS NO VARIANCE IN BMV FOR THE HEIGHT.
IT STILL REQUIRES BAMU ZONING AND THE BMV ZONING STATES THAT YOU CANNOT REZONE TO BE.
SO UNTIL THAT TEXTUAL AMENDMENT COMES THROUGH, A RESTRICTION IS STILL GOING TO BE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE. DO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM AVALLONE? MR. BAILEY, IT'S REAL QUICK, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE.
I DID WANT TO MAKE A PHONE CALL, BUT I THINK JOAN WAS ABLE TO GET THROUGH AS A JOHNSON JOHNSON TO GET THAT ADDITION IN THERE FROM WHERE IT ASKED LAST TIME FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE BOARDWALK.
SO I APPRECIATE I THINK, JOHN, SHE JUST WENT BACK TO WORK.
SO THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT WAS GOING TO CALL TO DISCUSS WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE PROJECT.
AND AND I REALLY DO HOPE YOU GUYS KNOW WE CAN HELP YOU AND JOAN OR WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO FACILITATE HELP YOU GUYS, WHETHER IT'S WITH PUBLIC PROPERTY OR ARE HELPING YOU FIND A PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR OWN DEALS, BUT AT LEAST TRY TO FIND GOOD LOCATIONS AND GIVE YOU HELP AS FAR AS WHAT OUR ZONING AND LAND USE AND SO FORTH IS. BUT I THINK YOUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE WHETHER IF WE WERE TO GIVE THAT TO THEM, WHETHER THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE A HOTEL ON THE PROPERTY.
WELL, THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A SUBJECT WHERE WE CAN WE COULD DEFINITELY ASK THAT QUESTION. BUT HERE'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS I LOVE YOUR HEART.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK AND PARTNER WITH OUR CITY AND WITH OTHERS TO BUILD THAT COLLABORATION TO TO HAVE OTHERS SUCCEED.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS MATTER.
IT GOES YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT.
AVALON SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT.
SO FROM MY HEART, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. SO I'D LIKE TO CALL MIKE BACK UP FOR A SECOND.
AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING BACK THIS.
IT'S IMPORTANT. THIS IS A WIN WIN.
THIS IS ENCOURAGING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IS ACTUALLY WE'RE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT UP HERE.
AND WE REALLY WE WANT THE BEST FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO THIS IS I KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
I'LL HAVE VICE CHAIRMAN JOHNSON GO AHEAD AND POSE HIS QUESTION.
THANK YOU, CHAIR, SO I KNOW THIS THREW YOU OFF GUARD AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING JUST TO PROCEED AS IS, I WANTED TO ASK, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO, TO HAVING A HOTEL? SPECIFICALLY, ADELONG WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM.
IS THAT FEASIBLE, IS IT NOT? I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU REALISTICALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW FEASIBLE A HOTEL ON THE PROPERTY IS. NUMBER ONE, I MEAN, I DID REACH OUT LAST WEEK TO JONATHAN TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE IN AND TRY IT IN MY MIND TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL.
I THINK IF THEY HAD A HOTEL OR IF A HOTEL WAS THERE, IT HAS TO HAVE THE CORNER PROPERTY THAT I PURCHASED BECAUSE OF AND I SENT JOAN AND TALKED TO CALIFORNIA ABOUT SETBACKS FOR A HOTEL AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW FAR YOU HAVE TO SET BACK OFF THE WATER, WHICH IS 50 FEET. SO THE OTHER CORNER WOULD BE, I WOULD SAY, VERY DIFFICULT TO GET PERMITS THROUGH. THAT'S BREVARD COUNTY, NOT CITY PALM BAY AND ALSO DEPARTMENT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. SO I BELIEVE THAT GOING DOWN THAT PATH, ALTHOUGH I WOULD BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE IT IF WE WENT INTO CONTRACT, IS AGAIN, I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ENTAILS.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE A PROJECT THAT WERE TWO YEARS OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN PERMITTING OR IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT ALL BECAUSE THE VENUE FROM IF YOU GO DOWN THE PATH TO DO THE CHANGE SHOULD BE AMMU PUTS MY PROJECT OUT SO THAT BECAUSE I CURRENTLY DOESN'T HOLD RESIDENTIAL, I MEAN THERE'S OTHER OTHER ZONING CHANGES THAT.
THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO GO HIGHER, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT.
THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW ME TO DO, BUT PMU PUTS ME OUT OF OUR PROJECT, ARE WATER DEPENDENT PROJECT KIND OF OUT OF THE SCENARIOS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD OUTCOME FOR THE CITY. SO THANK YOU.
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I DON'T THINK I'M MISSING A PARR QUESTION FOR HIM, PERSAY SAY, BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS. OK, SO THANK YOU.MY QUESTION ARMCHAIR STANDS A CHANCE, HAVE A SKETCH OR YOU HAVE TO DRAW ANY DRAWING OF THE PROJECT. DRAWINGS OR MY PLANS ARE ENGINEER PLANS, SO I HAVE TERRILYN HALL AND ASSOCIATES WHO ARE NOT ONLY MARINE ENGINEERS BUT ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERS, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ON ON, YOU KNOW, AN AQUATIC SANCTUARY PROPERTY LIKE THIS IS.
SO IT HAS SQUARE FOOTAGE DESIGN AND ALL THAT WILL COME WITH.
OK, WHO'S THE RESTAURANT? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS NEED? WHAT DO YOU LOOK? BUT I HAVE KIND OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT I HAVE SHARED, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER ISSUE, BUT NOT NOT ANY RENDERINGS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT YOU KNOW, IT REALLY HAS TO ALL FIT TOGETHER.
AND PART OF THAT IS THE RESTAURANT OUTSIDE SEATING.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST FROM THE NICE THING ABOUT THE CORNER PROPERTY IS YOU HAVE THE THE EXISTING SIDEWALK CAN REMAIN SINCE I OWN THAT PROPERTY AND AND SO RETAILS THERE AND IT'LL JUST BE OK. HOW DOES THAT WORK IN WITH THE RIGHT RESTAURANT? I PERSONALLY WANTED TO GO A LITTLE HIGHER, MOSTLY BECAUSE I WANTED A ROOFTOP BAR THAT OVERLOOKS BOTH THE THE PALM BAY AND THE INTERCOASTAL AS WELL AS AS TURKEY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A PHENOMENAL ASSET FOR THE CITY.
I SPENT AN HOUR AND A HALF WITH PINEAPPLE'S LOOKING AT THEIR DRAWINGS, AND I WAS THERE THE OTHER NIGHT JUST TO TRY AND GET FOR ME A VISUAL OF OK, EDITTA, A 35 FEET HEIGHT RESTRICTION. CAN I REALLY BUILD WHAT I AM ANTICIPATING? YES. I MEAN, I HAVE TO COME DOWN A COUPLE OF FEET SORRY, ON THE INDIVIDUAL FLOORS, BUT YOU CAN STILL HAVE A REALLY COOL ROOFTOP BAR SO THAT I DON'T HAVE RENDERINGS YET.
NOT TILL THEN. THERE IT'S A WHOLE DESIGN PROJECT AT THAT POINT AND.
I'M HAPPY TO, BUT NOT AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU, MIKE, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK UP.
I THINK I MIGHT HAVE JUMPED UP ABOUT THREE INCHES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS NOTICED THAT, BUT COMMISSIONER PARR AWESOME.
AWESOME. HAD A FEW THINGS I JUST WANTED TO RECALL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. LAST MEETING LAST WEEK, WE TALKED ABOUT.
SOMETHING THAT WAS WITH REZONING ISSUES, THIS COULD DEVELOP INTO MORE OR LESS A BATTLE GOING THROUGH REZONING IN THOSE SITUATIONS.
WE'VE NOW HEARD TODAY DIRECTLY FROM TWO PEOPLE THAT COULD BE HIGHLY POTENTIALLY CHALLENGING THOSE ISSUES, DRAGGING THIS OUT.
URGE OF SAYING INDEFINITELY AND POTENTIALLY COSTING OUR CITY MORE TAXPAYERS MONEY, GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND GETTING THAT DONE.
IT'S A BIT CONCERNING. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, I ACTUALLY TOOK THE INITIATIVE AND I WANTED TO MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS.
ANOTHER COMMISSIONER MENTIONED OUR TWO HOTELS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE HERE IN THE CITY LIMITS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, THE COMFORT SUITES AND THE HOLIDAY INN DOWN OFF OF MALABAR ROAD. I ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO THOSE TWO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE NEED MORE HOTELS. I CAN TELL YOU, I INTENTIONALLY DID NOT TRY AND SPEAK TO AN OWNER, DID NOT TRY AND SPEAK TO MANAGER.
I SPOKE TO THE PERSON WHO ANSWERS THE PHONE ON THE DAILY BASIS FOR THOSE HOTELS.
AND I ASKED A FOOL, ARE YOU? MOST THE TIME, WE'RE NOT FULL AT ALL.
WHEN WE ARE AT CAPACITY, IT'S ON HOLIDAY WEEKENDS.
OR A SHUTTLE LAUNCH OR JULY 4TH OR LABOR DAY OR MEMORIAL DAY.
ALL RIGHT, SO HOLIDAYS, A FEW OTHER SPECIAL OCCASIONS HERE AND THERE.
SPRING BREAK OBVIOUSLY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AROUND SPRING BREAK.
BUT I WAS HEARING AND ONE EVEN SAID ONLY WHEN MELBURNIAN BEACHSIDE HOTELS ARE FULL.
SO I TOOK THAT, I TRANSLATED THAT.
ARE WE IN NEED OF A WHOLE LOT OF HOTEL ROOMS? I'M NOT I'M NOT THAT ANALYST, I'M NOT THERE DOING THAT IF THEY'RE BUILDING HOTELS.
THAT'S THEIR JOB TO JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR IT.
BUT THAT DID STRIKE HOME TO ME WHEN I CALLED THE HOTELS, AND THAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE.
NO, WE'RE NOT. OK, COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE CITIZEN'S DESIRE.
WE'VE HEARD FROM A FEW OF THEM THIS TIME, THE LAST TIME.
CITIZEN'S DESIRE WITH THIS PLAN TO GO FORWARD.
SPACE COAST MARINAS, I, I AGREE WITH YOU, CHAIRMAN, ABOUT THAT COMMENT ABOUT THE ROOFTOP BAR I PERKED UP. THERE'S ALL SORTS OF NEWS BUZZ ALL OVER THE MELBOURNE AREA ABOUT THE MOST RECENT ADDITIONS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I HAVE BEEN A PATRON AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT TO BE ON A ROOFTOP BAR AT A WATERFRONT.
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THAT IS INCREDIBLE.AND THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE, AS WELL AS A DYING THAT FERGUSON. I WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO PUT THAT ESTABLISHMENT TOGETHER, THAT FOOD TOGETHER, BRING SOME SORT OF SIMILAR CONCEPTS TO OUR PALM BAY.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY I HAVE HEARD THE QUESTION JUST THE SAME.
WE NEED SOME WATERFRONT RESTAURANT, AN ICON RESTAURANT, 100 PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT AND AGREE WITH IT MORE. DEFINITELY GO BACK TO A CONCERN.
IF WE WERE TO CHOOSE THE OTHER ROUTE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LEGAL ISSUES.
I DO FORESEE IT DEFINITELY DRAGGING THIS THING OUT.
AND WE HAVE CITIZENS DESIRE TO MAKE IT THE WAY THE SPACE COAST MARINAS, HE'S GOT A GREAT CONCEPT PLAN THERE.
HOTELS ARE SAYING THEY'RE NOT AT CAPACITY MOST OF THE TIME.
I MEAN, SO I QUESTION THIS AND I THINK FIRMLY, I I'VE ALSO BEEN DOING SOME THINKING.
IF WE PUT A HOTEL THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL.
WE'VE SEEN WHAT THE RENDERING HE PUT OUT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL.
AND I KNOW LAST TIME I FOCUSED ON THE EXTENDED STAY CONCEPT.
IF IT'S NOT EXTENDED, STAY STILL.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, ARE THEY GOING TO GO TO THAT HOTEL OR ARE THEY GOING TO STAY ON THE BEACH? THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THAT HOTEL OR THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE, WHERE THERE'S ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS TO DO.
I ALMOST FEEL THAT WE NEED SOMETHING TO DO ALONG WITH IT.
OR SOMETHING TO DO FIRST, THEN THE HOTEL IS MY BELIEFS, PUTTING THE HOTEL FIRST.
I, I JUST I STRUGGLE WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE COMMENTATING A.
PERSON WHO'S GOING TO VENTURE BACK TO MELBOURNE FOR BUSINESS, BACK TO THE BEACH FOR BUSINESS, BECAUSE THOSE HOTELS ARE FULL AND THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE.
AND I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS THIS WEEKEND, AND THE ROOFTOP BAR DEFINITELY SPARKED MY SPARKED MY INTEREST.
AGAIN, THOUGH, BOTH ALL THESE THINGS COME PILING UP.
AND I'LL BE HONEST, THE JUMP IN AT ONE POINT I WAS DEFINITELY ON MY AGENDA TO SAY AS WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY TOO MUCH.
I'M CONTENT WITH THE ONE POINT NINE.
BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A WIN WITH ADELINE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK TO FIND SOME OTHER PLACE THEY WANT TO DO BUSINESS, AARON, PALM BAY THEY WANT TO BE IN THIS CCRA YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THEY'RE STILL IN THAT AREA.
AND I LOVE THAT THEY WANT TO COME THAT AND BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, COME TO OUR HOTEL.
WE'VE GOT THIS ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT'S A WIN WIN IN THE CITIZENS WANT.
IT'S A WIN AGAIN, SO, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT.
FOR TO NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF SPACE COAST MARINAS, I WOULD QUESTION THE MOTIVATION BEHIND THE VOTE. I MEAN, I'LL JUST BE VERY BLUNT WITH THAT STATEMENT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE COULD SIT HERE AND NOT GO THAT WAY BECAUSE WE'RE WINNING IN ALL ASPECTS. OH, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.
THE FIRST THING I LIKE TO SAY IS.
IT IS A WIN WIN EITHER PROJECT.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR GIFTS, YOUR GIFTS AND REAL ESTATE, YOUR GIFTS AND SELLING, I GET THAT I WILL SAY THIS OVER THE WEEKEND.
I'VE BEEN PERPLEXED, AS I SAID INITIALLY, I'VE BEEN PERPLEXED BECAUSE OF THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE OF GETTING A PROJECT OUT THERE.
NOW, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS IS THAT WE WE HEARD THE HEART OF.
AVALON, THAT THEY STILL WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS IN OUR CITY.
I CAN TELL YOU HERE, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, I WAS FOR A HOTEL.
I STILL BELIEVE A LANDMARK OF A HOTEL SHOULD BE BY THE WATER.
I STILL BELIEVE THAT A HOTEL IN THE CATEGORY OF A HOTEL MILBY IS THE ONE YOU WERE ALLUDING TO, COMMISSIONER PARR.
OUR CITY WORN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I AM IN AGREEMENT THAT WE, THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND NOT LOSE BY BY HAVING SPACE COAST MARINAS DEVELOP OUT THERE AND INTO TO INCLUDE A FRIGATE OR A VARIATION THEREOF.
I THINK OUR CITY WOULD BE WELL SERVED.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WAS ADAMANT ABOUT THE LANDMARK.
I REALLY BELIEVE AT THIS POINT WITH MY HEART, I WOULD BE SUPPORTING SPACE COAST MARINAS.
I LET THIS BOARD KNOW THAT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A HUGE BLESSING FOR OUR COMMUNITY, IN PARTICULAR WITH THE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS SEEN BY MIKE REACHING OUT TO SCOTT FROM FRIGATES, REACHING OUT TO JONATHAN FROM AVALON, THAT THAT IS COLLABORATION.
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AND AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, FROM EACH AND EVERY BUSINESS OWNER, FROM EACH AND EVERY STAFF WORKER FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE ON THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD.SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT I SEE.
SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL COMING TO OUR CITY IN THAT CORRIDOR.
I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT I HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT, TO PRAY.
AND I'M NOT ASHAMED ABOUT THAT, AND I WAS AT PEACE WITH HAVING SPACE COAST MARINAS INSTITUTE THERE, FREE PUBLIC ACCESS THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPING.
EVEN EVEN BEFORE I KNEW FRIGATE WAS INTERESTED IN PARTNERING, I WAS BECOMING AT PEACE WITH THAT PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE BECAUSE WE MAY BE PUTTING.
A DEVELOPER IN A POSITION TO EXHAUST TIME, TO EXHAUST MONEY AND AND TO THAT END, THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE COULD IN ALL THAT TIME THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY SPEND, WE WOULD BE BETTER SERVED, ALREADY EATEN AT A FRIGATES THAT SPACE COAST MARINAS, SO THAT I'M SHARING MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I AM I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE SPACE COAST MARINERS.
GOING GET STARTED. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE OFFER FROM SPACE COAST MARINA WITH THE CHANGE OF THE OFFER PRICE TO ONE POINT NINE MILLION SECOND.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY MR. BAILEY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PARR.
AND JUST LET ME GIVE YOU I MEAN, REALLY, I THINK WE'VE COME UP A LITTLE BIT SHORT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BE COMPLETELY HAPPY EVER.
I'M NEVER SATISFIED AT TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY AS FAR AS SAVING MONEY.
BUT I THINK ONE POINT THAT IS MUCH BETTER THAN WHERE WE WERE IS BETTER THAN WE WERE AT ONE POINT FIVE INITIALLY WITH SOME OF THE OFFERS.
AND SO I'M HAPPY AND I THINK THE CITY CAN CELEBRATE THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT THE THE BIG THING IS THAT WHENEVER I LOOK AT I DID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. PART, IT'S A I LOOKED I DIDN'T CALL THE HOTELS WHEN I WAS LOOKING UP FOSTER ARE VALUES AND ACTUALLY FOUND OUT THAT THEY AND THERE'S THERE'S A SIDE STORY I SAW WHICH SHOWED THAT WEST MELBOURNE OWNED A HOTEL, WHICH WASN'T ACCURATE.
BUT ANYHOW, I WAS LOOKING NOW JUST IN THE GENERAL VICINITY AND IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT THAT RATIO IS.
SO FOR ME, I KNOW WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE COUNCIL, THE MEMBERS, THE COUNCIL WILL NOW AND SOME OF THE STAFF THAT WERE THERE AT THE LAST TOWN HALL, WE TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT. NO, NO, I KNOW MS. CHAIRMAN SAID THERE'S NO MAGIC NUMBER FOR HOW MUCH NONRESIDENTIAL COMPARED TO RESIDENTIAL WE SHOULD HAVE. BUT FOR ME, THAT NUMBER, THAT GOALPOST IS 30 PERCENT.
AND WE'RE WAY BELOW THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND WITHOUT EXCEEDING THAT WHICH WE ARE NOT EXCEEDING THAT AT THIS TIME, WHEN OUR CURRENT NUMBERS OF PERMITS COME IN, WE'RE GROWING, BUT WE'RE GROWING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ALREADY ARE. I THINK WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO GROW TOWARDS THIS OTHER NUMBER.
BUT WHENEVER I USE THAT AS MY BENCHMARK AND TRY TO TAKE THE NUMBERS OF WHAT THE ADLON PROJECT PUT TOGETHER, I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH.
I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE ENOUGH COMMERCIAL TO OFFSET THE RESIDENTIAL AS FAR AS COST OF SERVICES. WHEREAS WITH THE OTHER PROJECT, WITH NO REZONING AS A CONDITION, BE PURELY COMMERCIAL, IT'S NOTHING BUT A BENEFIT.
SO WHENEVER I ANALYZE THAT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DO IS GET THAT NET COMMERCIAL TO MATCH THAT 10 TO 12, MAYBE 15 MILLION THAT THAT SPACE COAST AREA.
SO IN TRUE FORM, I'M STILL ANALYTICAL IN HOW I COME TO MY CONCLUSION.
I THINK WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE GOT MAYBE ANOTHER 100000 OUT SPACE COAST MARINAS.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE CAN NOW OPEN UP A BOTTLE OF CHAMPAGNE AND SAY WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT SUCCESS.
LISTEN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER BAILEY EVEN EVEN HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A PART TIME JOB AS AN AUCTIONEER? BECAUSE I JUST THOUGHT THAT.
BUT LISTEN, WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARR.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION UNLESS WE HAVE OTHER COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER MR. FELIX. MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO STAND BY STATE THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE, YOU KNOW, SHARING OUR OPINIONS AND HOW WE FEEL ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.
I THINK WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL AS WELL AS TO GO TO LAW TO A STRONG COMMISSIONER.
PARR MENTIONED QUESTIONING MOTIVE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL AS WE SHARING OUR OPINION SOMEWHAT TOOK IT PERSONAL.
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I DON'T I DON'T THINK WAS I DON'T THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE AT ALL.PERSONALLY, I THOUGHT YOU MADE A LOT OF VALID POINTS IN TERMS OF EVER QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT ASPECTS YOU LOOKED AT.
LIKE I SAID, ANY PROJECT I COULD GO EITHER WAY RIGHT NOW AND POTENTIALLY I WILL SUPPORT IT. I WILL SUPPORT IT.
A FEW REASONS. I MEAN, QUITE A FEW REASONS THAT MAKES SENSE.
FRIGATES, NO, ONE SECOND, THANK YOU, WILL YOU SHOW GOOD FAITH IN TERMS OF YOU REALLY WON'T BRING YOUR BUSINESS TO PALM BAY YOU'RE CONSIDERED THE THE ASK MY CHAIRMAN I MEAN COMMISSION OF BAILEY BY RAISING YOUR PRICE.
THOSE ARE PLUS, PLUS, PLUS, PLUS.
AND THE FACT THAT ADELONG, CONSIDERING THEY THEY DO WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH PALM BAY AT THAT. THOSE ARE GREAT PARTNERS.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A BOARD, AS A CITY TO RETAIN THEM, AS, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS PARTNERS.
SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT FOR ALL THESE REASONS.
DO WE NEED A HOTEL? I STILL STRONGLY BELIEVE WE NEED A HOTEL ON OUR PERSONALLY.
WHEN I TRAVEL, I DON'T STAY AT CANFORD SUITE.
I SAY AT THE HILTON, I SEE SOME I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, NICER.
NOT JUST ME. I THOUGHT IN THAT SENSE.
THERE'S A REASON WHY OR TWO HOTELS IN THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY NOT FILLED ALL THE TIME.
YOU DON'T HAVE A MAJOR DRAW TO TO TO MAKE SURE THEY FEEL LIKE I SAID AGAIN, IF I WAS IF I WAS TRAVELING TO PALM BAY.
ON A TOWN FROM OUR TOWN, I WOULD PROBABLY THESE WOULD BE THE VERY BOTTOM OF MY I WOULD PROBABLY STAY AT THE, YOU KNOW, OVER BY THE BEACH AT THE HILTON OR RIALTO.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT OFFER A BANQUET ROOM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S CERTAIN AMENITIES HOTELS DON'T OFFER.
SO THAT EXPLAINS PART OF WHY YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS FULL.
SO. I'M ON BOARD, SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FELIX.
I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY WELL PUT.
I DID SAY THAT WE SHOULD KEEP OUR COMMENTS POSITIVE AND LOVING AND RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER AND WANTED TO GIVE COMMISSIONER FILIBERTO WHO'S ON THE LINE.
I CAN'T MAKE A VISUAL OF YOU, SIR, SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE SPENT THE PAST YEAR.
DRAFTING AND DISCUSSING THE ZONING, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY BE CHALLENGED IF ANYONE WAS TO GET THE PROJECT, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
AND THEY WERE ALSO IN OF THE FRIGATES BECAUSE MARINA, EACH APPLICANT APPLICANTS AND TALK TO EACH OTHER, WHICH IS GREAT.
I'M STILL IN FAVOR OF ADALINE.
AGAIN, THEY HAVE LOCALS INVOLVED FROM SURVEYING THE RURAL COUNTY TO BEYOND.
SO THAT'S MY OPINION ON THE MATTER.
RESPECTFULLY, SIR, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
THANK YOU KNOW AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BROTHER.
WE WERE ALL THERE LESS LESS MEETING.
WE WERE ALL THERE LESS MEETING.
WE WE JUST WE SEEING SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE TODAY.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER BAILEY, WHO MADE THE MOTION AT THIS POINT.
HE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
BUT VERY QUICKLY, MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR HOTEL JUST A MOMENT AGO, AND I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER PARR WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ANTIDOTAL RESPONSES FROM THOSE FOLKS WORKING THE DESK.
MS. YOUR COLIN BROWN DID SEND US SOME DATA EARLIER.
IF EVERYBODY CHECKS THEIR EMAIL JUST SO THAT ALAN HAS THIS INFORMATION, IF YOU DON'T ALREADY THE OCCUPANCY RATES AND PALM BAY FROM AUGUST TILL NOW HAVE RANGE 10 TO 20 POINTS HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
SO IT DOES SHOW THAT, YEAH, THE HOTELS ARE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS BEFORE, BUT IT DOES SHOW THAT OUR HOTELS ARE GETTING A HIGHER UTILIZATION COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE MARKETS AROUND US. SO I STILL WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
AND I'M HOPING THAT WE DO FIND AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION WHERE YOU GUYS CAN NOW BUILD A GREAT BUILDING AND BUILD A HOTEL, A GREAT HOTEL AND AND MAKE SOME MONEY AND GIVE US A LANDMARK. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M HOPING WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE THE DATA DOES SHOW THAT THERE IS. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.
HAS HIS TO WON CONGRATULATIONS, MIKE, CONGRATULATIONS OR THANK YOU.
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WE'RE UP TO COMMISSIONER REPORTS AND WE'LL START WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER FILIBERTO, SINCE YOU'RE ON THE LINE. AND THAT'S THE REPORT.BUT SHE ALSO I APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US, SIR.
I JUST. I LOVE HAVING MY GRANDSON HERE.
HE JUST GOT IN TOWN YESTERDAY, SO I GO BACK HOME TO.
COMMISSIONER FELIX. AND THANK YOU, CONGRATULATIONS.
OR TO SOME GREAT, GOOD THINGS.
THANK YOU AND I HOPE YOU GENTLEMEN CONSIDERED TO, YOU KNOW, BRING BRING SOMETHING NICE TO TOWN. THANK YOU.
MR. BAILEY. CHAIRMAN, JUST REAL QUICK, ONE THING THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING TO THE BOARD, I'D MENTION BRIEFLY TALK TO MR. SMITH ABOUT WAS OUR RULES AND REGS UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCEDURES FOR MAKING A MOTION LAST MEETING.
OUR CURRENT BOARD BYLAWS ARE PRETTY OPEN-ENDED, I GUESS THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SET UP AND HAVE BEEN TRADITIONALLY RECOGNIZED, RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY, I SHOULD SAY, THAT WE ADOPT OR ESSENTIALLY FOLLOW. WE NORMALLY WOULD FOLLOW THE COUNCIL PROCEDURES THAT MIGHT HAVE SIMPLY BEEN BECAUSE THAT WAS MAJORITY WHAT THE BOARD DID UNDER THE PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP.
BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S NOT IN THE BYLAWS THAT'S INFORMAL AT BEST.
I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO MAYBE TAKE THE MOTION MAKING AND THE.
THE MOTION MAKING AND THE THE OTHER THING I'M LOOKING FOR, I APOLOGIZE, BUT THE MOTION MAKING AND THEN ANYTHING AS FAR AS SOME OF THE PROCEDURES FOR THE MEETING FROM FROM OUR COUNCILMAN RULES AND PROCEDURES AND BRING THEM OVER.
NOW, WHETHER IT'S JUST A SIMPLE LINE, WE ADOPT THIS SECTION IN THAT SECTION, BUT START TO LOOK AT IT. AND OF COURSE, STAFF DOES KNOW THAT SOMETHING I'M NOT TRYING TO BRING ALL THE PUBLIC HEARING STUFF AND ALL THAT OVER, BUT JUST SIMPLE BASIC STUFF.
THE SECOND THING I DID WANT TO MENTION, LAST MEETING AND MR. FILIBERTO, HOLD ON STANDBY.
HOW DOES THE COMMISSION FEEL ABOUT THAT, BRINGING THOSE MOTIONS, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? HOW DOES THE COMMISSIONERS FEEL ON THAT? BY CONSENSUS, I GOT SOME NODS.
YOU GO WITH EVERY ONE OF FILIBERTO.
MR. CHAIR, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THAT COMMISSION BAILEY, PLEASE.
YES, MR. FILIBERTO. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT BOARD BYLAWS FOR THE SIERRA ARE PRETTY. THEY'RE VERY MY.
SO TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA STRUCTURE WAS SUGGESTING WAS THAT VOTING AND MOTION MAKING PROCEDURES FROM THE COUNCIL OF POLICIES BE ADOPTED TO THE SCIARRA SO THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT. WELL, SIR, THANK YOU.
OK, SO YOU HAVE CONSENSUS MS. JOIN ME ON THAT. AND YOUR SECOND ITEM AND THE SECOND ITEM I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR FOLKS AND CERTAINLY FOR THIS BOARD, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE GET TO TALK.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED IN REGARD TO THIS IDEA OF OPENING UP THE CONTRACT WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPER WITH NORTH SHORE, THE NORTH SHORE CONTRACT WAS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK A BIG SELLING POINT WAS THAT THERE WAS COVID RELATED ISSUES.
HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE NOTED, I THINK IT KIND OF GOT SUCKED INTO THE.
MAGNITUDE OF ALL THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS AT THE MOMENT, BUT THE DISCUSSION OF SPLITTING THAT PARCEL UP AND TRYING TO SPLIT UP THE SITUATION HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS. SO INSTAPUNDIT DID NOTE THAT IN THE THERE THE AGENDA, AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE SO AGAIN, WHEN I WASN'T BEING FLIP IT, WHENEVER I SAID I QUESTIONED NICOLLET RELATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO EXAMPLES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THAT'S TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD HERE. RESTAURANTS PARTICULARLY, WE KNOW THE FRIGATES IN MELBOURNE IS LOOKING TO TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS AND THE STATE.
AND THERE IS OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT I TALKED TO OUTSIDE OF THAT.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I JUST DON'T BUY IT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE CONVERSATION STARTED PRE KOVEN.
SO I HOPE THAT WHENEVER THIS COMES THAT COMES BACK THAT WE KIND OF GIVE A DAMN.
WHERE I WANT TO DO IS STAND BEHIND STAFF.
AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION ORIGINALLY WAS REALLY AGAIN FOR ME IS LESS, IT'S LESS, LESS.
IT'S REALLY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REALLY BE DOING MUCH WITH.
I KNOW WE WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THE DISCUSSION THE PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING AND GIVE THEM A LOT OF LATITUDE TO HAVE A STRONG STANCE.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT IT'S JUST IT'S JUST MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
AT LEAST. I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN JUST JUST KIND OF POINTING OUT THAT FACT.
SO ANYHOW, AND THE LAST THING WITH REGARD TO THAT IS THAT NO, AT THE TIME AND AGAIN, IT
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WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK TO, BUT OUR MEETING WENT ON PRETTY LONG, WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME SOME, I GUESS, TRYING TO PUT IT INTO A POSITIVE WAY FOR YOUR CHAIRMAN. ESSENTIALLY, SOME OF HIS ACCUSATIONS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST POSITIVE WORD, BUT IT'S I THINK, ACTUALLY ACCURATELY REPRESENTS WHAT WAS SAID, THAT THE CITY HAD BEEN MOVING THE BALL AND THE CITY HAD NOT BEEN PLAYING WELL WITH THAT DEVELOPER.AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE'S A LIST OF ITEMS I KNOW THAT I'VE TALKED TO SUZANNE ABOUT. I KNOW STAFF HAS ONE.
I HAVE ONE THAT I THINK I PUT OUT NOW PUBLICLY, ACTUALLY, PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AROUND THE SAME TIME, WHENEVER I WAS SAYING NO, NO, NO TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, AS MR. PARR SAID, I WAS NAYSAY IN BAILEY AND I WAS PROUD OF IT BECAUSE I WASN'T I WASN'T HAPPY WHAT IT WAS THERE. BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS I DID SUPPORT OF REZONING AND SOME OTHER THING THAT WE HAD FASTTRACK PERMITTING.
WE EXTENDED OUT SOME OF THE DEADLINES FOR RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK THAT WE'VE BENT OVER CITY HAS BENT OVER BACKWARDS FOR THAT PROJECT WAY MORE THAN WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE. BUT I DON'T I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO THAT. AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN THE CITY.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS DON'T EXPERIENCE THAT.
AND IF YOU DO, PLEASE DO BRING IT FORTH TO MYSELF AND THE REST OF THIS BOARD.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A FAIR A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY.
AND SO, ANYHOW, I I'VE GOT TO SAY, I'VE APPRECIATED WORKING WITH THESE TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT, THEY'VE BEEN A BREATH OF FRESH AIR, THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR OR VICE CHAIRMAN JOHNSON.
I'VE NOTHING TO ADD EXCEPT I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE AVALON TO WORK WITH US.
I APPRECIATE YOU AND JONATHAN, YOUR CONSISTENCY AND YOUR DETERMINATION AND YOUR PASSION, BECAUSE I SEE THE SAME PASSION IN BOTH OF YOU AND, YOU KNOW, PASSION, RECOGNIZERS, PASSION. SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE.
WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF, HAVE A GREAT TEAM HERE.
WE HAVE A GREAT BOARD. WE HAVE A GREAT COUNCIL WHO'S ALSO ON THIS BOARD, TOO, AS YOU CAN SEE. SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU, SIR, AND WE, AS THE MAYOR ALWAYS SAYS, AS THE CHAIRMAN ALWAYS SAYS, WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
PALM BAY IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOSTER.
SO. THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THE COMMUNITY WON TODAY.
YOU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE, AS YOU SAID.
YOU'RE WELCOME AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT IN BECAUSE I READ THEM ALL.
AND I TAKE IT IN CONSIDERATION, SPACE COAST MARINA, THANK YOU FOR DOING BUSINESS IN PALM BAY REGION.
I ASKED THEM QUESTIONS BECAUSE I KIND OF KNEW THE ANSWER AND I WANTED TO MAKE YOU SAY IT SORT OF MS. AND YOU ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS EXACTLY LIKE IT WAS GOING TO COME OUT.
I APPRECIATE YOU DOING BUSINESS IN PALM BAY.
AND I HOPE YOU PARTNERED UP WITH FRIGATES.
AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION.
AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE.
PALM BAY OUT, PUT US ON THE MAP, SO TO SPEAK.
LIKE, I VOTED AGAINST YOU ALL THE TIME, BUT I REALLY LIKE YOU GUYS.
I REALLY DO. AND I WANT YOU TO DO BUSINESS IN PALM BAY.
I REALLY DO. I SAW WHAT YOU DID OUT NINETY FIVE HOURS OF THAT HYATT.
I WAS IMPRESSED. I WAS A CANDIDATE THEN.
AND AND I WAS I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE WORK YOU DID.
AND I KNOW YOU COULD DO A GOOD JOB.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU COME BACK AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING YOU A LOT MORE.
YOU GOT MY MORAL SUPPORT, BUT I THINK TODAY WAS A WIN FOR THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. AND I THINK WE DID PALM BAY.
OR I'LL CONCLUDE WITH MY COMMENTS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THIS OF THIS BOARD. THANK YOU, AVALON, FOR WILLING TO PARTNER WITH WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND TO MIKE, THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PERSISTENT AND BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, BECAUSE I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU WENT OUT.
AND NOT ONLY DID YOU REACH OUT TO BOTH JONATHAN AND AVALON AND SCOTT OF FRIGATES, BUT WHAT AN EXAMPLE OF COLLABORATION AND WILLING TO WORK WITH NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT THE RESIDENTS, THE CITIZENS AND DIFFERENT BUSINESS OWNERS, ALL FOR ONE PURPOSE, AND THAT IS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR IN OUR CITY AND FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS. I AM SO EXCITED.
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I WANT TO BE THE FIRST PATRIOT, THE FIRST PATRON AT THAT RESTAURANT WHEN IT OPENS UP AND THE ROOFTOP TO I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT.BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS BLESSED BECAUSE WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN OUR CITY. SO THANK YOU.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.