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NOW I'M ON GOOD EVENING, I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARDS, REGULAR MEETING, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH EIGHT, TODAY'S TUESDAY, MAY 18.
THERE'S NO PUBLIC, SO NO PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS SOMEONE SOME IN.
[1. 2020 Sustainability Action Plan Development Discussion]
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH OUR DISCUSSION OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, WE ARE ON THE VERY LAST PART ON TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY.MR. SNYDER IS OUR NEW SCRIBED TONIGHT.
AND AS WE DID LAST TIME, WE WILL FOREGO READING ALOUD THE DOCUMENT.
WE WILL. EACH TAKE A TURN TO GIVE OUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL GO GOAL BY GOAL.
I'LL LEAD US THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION THEN.
LET'S LOOK AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, A MEMBER HAD GIVEN US A REVISION. THIS ENTIRE WHICH ONE ARE WE DOING? YES, THE NEW ONE.
OH, AND THE REVISED THANK YOU.
WHERE DOES SHE COMMENCE TONIGHT'S WORK? JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, UM.
WE'VE BEEN DEBORD'S BEEN DISCUSSING THAT THIS COULD VERY WELL BE THE LAST PASS ON, THE LAST PASS, AND SO WE'VE HAD A REQUEST TO CONSIDER WHAT COUNCIL MEETING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AND HOW YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT THAT COUNCIL MEETING, POTENTIALLY JUNE 17 OR THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.
SO THAT THOUGHT IN MIND, WRAPPING THINGS UP TONIGHT AND JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW THIS SHOULD APPEAR AS A FINAL DOCUMENT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS EVENING. I WAS LOOKING AT THE SECTIONS THAT WE WENT OVER LAST.
EATING WAS THE EDUCATION AND ALSO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND I FOUND SOME PLACES THAT WERE NEAT, SOME EDITING, OH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN FORM AN EDITING TEAM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO.
I ALSO MADE NOTES FOR EDITING, AND IN THE PAST, I'VE GIVEN THOSE NOTES TO NICOLE TO JUST JUST STRICTLY EDITING FOR GRAMMAR OF GRAMMAR AND DUPLICATE.
YEAH. SO MY PLAN TONIGHT WAS TO HAND THAT OFF TO IT.
AND SINCE HE'S DESCRIBING IF THAT'S OK WITH YOU, TO JUST PERUSE MY EDITS AND ANYONE ELSE THAT MIGHT WANT TO GIVE YOU NOT FOR CONTENT BUT FOR BASIC EDITING QUESTION, YEAH, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE SENSIBLE.
SO, UH, I'LL COMMIT TO TAKING ANY GRAMMATICAL AND FORMATTING EDITS TONIGHT, AND I'LL WORK WITH NICOLE AND ME AND HER WILL GO THROUGH IT.
I FEEL RELATIVELY CONFIDENT I COULD DO A DECENT GRAMMATICAL PASS.
I DID TEACH ENGLISH. UM, SO, UH, FINGERS CROSSED.
OR THERE'S A LOT OF UNFORTUNATE STUDENTS OUT THERE.
UM, BUT NO, BUT I'LL COMMIT TO, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE CONTENT THAT WE DEVELOPED TONIGHT AND THEN I'LL WORK WITH HER ON FORMATING GRAMMAR AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR THE NEXT TIME WE MEET, WE SHOULD HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT.
OUTSIDE OF IF THERE WAS ANYTHING LIKE PICTURES AND THINGS THAT THE STAFF WAS GOING TO ADD, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS JUST FROM A PURELY, YOU KNOW, FORMATTING, GRAMMATICAL PUNCTUATION OR SOMETHING PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD.
AND REPETITIVE INFORMATION WILL ONLY KEEP IT IN THERE, AND WE THINK IT'S VITAL.
KIND GOING. IF WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE KIND OF SUGGESTIONS, RATHER THAN BRING THEM UP DURING THE DISCUSSION, WE CAN HAND THEM OFF AT THE END AND HE'LL BE EDITING AND NICOLE TOGETHER.
OK, SO WE'LL TAKE THE NEW TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY GOALS FROM THE TOP.
THE RIGHT TO DECIDE ON THE QUESTION OF THE MEETING, THAT'S AT THE END.
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WE'LL DEAL FIRST WITH JUST THE THE PLAN FOR THERE'S THREE MAIN GOALS, THE INVEST IN THE SMART TECHNOLOGY AND UNDERSTAND MANAGED TRAFFIC DESIGN AND PLAN FOR MULTIMODAL, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND REDUCE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF EXISTING TRANSPORTATION.SO LET'S START WITH GOAL ONE AND THE CITY THE CITY OBJECTIVES UNDER GOAL ONE E THROUGH F, AND WE CAN START HERE, MR. SNYDER, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TO ADD OR CHANGE.
OUTSIDE OF FORMATTING AND GRAMMATICAL ISSUES, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE SAID.
I THINK IT'S REALLY WELL DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE NARRATIVE.
JUST ONE SENTENCE OFF OF THE OLD TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY THAT GIVES A JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION IS.
IN REGARDS TO FORMATTING, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID IN ALL OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS.
TO ENSURE I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO HAVE A BLURB AT THE BEGINNING THAT DESCRIBES A SECTION, ITS PURPOSE AND WHAT IT IS ESSENTIALLY RIGHT.
AND THERE'S ALREADY A VERY SUCCINCT ONE WRITTEN ON THE OLD.
AND. AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CARRY THAT OVER FROM THE OLD ONE.
IN REGARDS TO CITY GOALS ON THE LETTER D.
COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND UNIVERSITIES, WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING, ARE THERE COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND UNIVERSITIES TECHNICALLY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT HAVE STUDENTS THAT LIVE ON CAMPUS? I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW ABOUT PLAY WELL AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER NOW, BECAUSE IT'S EVEN MORE PREVALENT THAN IT EVER HAS BEEN, IS VIRTUAL CAMPUS ACTIVITY.
AND SO I WOULDN'T DISCOUNT THAT THERE IS PARTICIPATION FROM HIGHER LEARNING IN THAT PROCESS. HERE'S.
IT'S TALKING ABOUT BICYCLE CULTURE ON COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES AND.
YEAH, WHILE WE HAVE CAMPUSES THAT PEOPLE TRAVEL TO.
RIGHT. I'M I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW.
THIS READS TO ME AS THOUGH PEOPLE LIVE ON CAMPUS AND THEY'RE TRAVELING BY BICYCLE WITHIN THE CAMPUS, AND MAYBE I'M READING THAT WRONG THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMMUTE BY BICYCLE TO EASTERN FLORIDA, SINCE THAT IS THE ONLY ONE.
THE REST OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY DIFFERENT INPUT OR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, AND IF I MAY, MANAGER, I'M DEFINITELY SEEING IT HOW YOU ARE AS WELL, BUT ALSO SEEING IT HOW I THINK IT WAS INTENDED TO TO TO BE AS FAR AS MOVING AROUND CAMPUS VIA BICYCLE.
NOW, TO YOUR POINT, IF THAT IS KIND OF THE SCOPE OF IT AND IT'S THAT NARROW, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT NECESSARILY BREED SUSTAINABILITY AS A GRADUATE FROM WHAT WAS REQUIRED COMMUNITY COLLEGE WITH MY ASSOCIATES.
NOW, EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE, IT'S A RATHER SMALL CAMPUS.
YOU KNOW, YOU PARK NEAR THE BUILDING, YOU NEED TO BE.
BUT IF YOU'RE DRIVING THERE AND THEN USING BICYCLES TO GET AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ARE WE ENCOURAGING THE SUSTAINABLE LIFESTYLE? SO, YEAH, I CAN KIND OF SEE IT BOTH WAYS.
SO IF WE WANT TO LEAVE IT IN THERE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO GET SOME BICYCLE SHARING ON CAMPUS, MAYBE IT WOULD GENERATE SOME INTEREST FOR THE IDEA IN OTHER PLACES OF THE CITY THAT THAT COULD BE A MERIT.
BUT I CAN ALSO SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, THAT IT MAY BE POTENTIALLY IT MIGHT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED FLUFF IN THE DOCUMENTARY.
WELL, GIVEN THAT IT'S NOT A WHOLEHEARTED, HEY, YOU KNOW, USED BICYCLE SHARING TO TO GET TO SCHOOL AND THEN TRAVEL FROM CAMPUS RATHER THAN USE YOUR VEHICLE, AS IT DID AT UNIVERSITY FLORIDA STATE, TO GO FROM ONE SIDE OF CAMPUS TO THE OTHER.
SO I CAN KIND OF SEE IT BOTH WAYS.
SO MAYBE MAYBE WE CAN REWORK IT RATHER THAN ELIMINATE IT.
JUST TO GET THE POINT ACROSS MORE DISTINCTLY, IT DOES SAY CONSIDER TRADITIONAL AND ELECTRIC BICYCLES FOR STUDENTS AND FACULTY TO USE ON AN AROUND CAMPUS.
SO THAT'S NOT PERTINENT TO WHAT WE HAVE IN PALM BAY IF IT'S ENCOURAGING COMMUTING.
TO THE CAMPUS THEN THEN THAT IS KIND OF LIKE A BUSINESS, IS IT BECAUSE IT'S NO SMALLER OR
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BIGGER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN TOWN.SO I'D LIKE TO REWORD IT IN SOME WAY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PROPOSE A WAY TO DO THAT.
UM. YOU KNOW, I THINK GETTING TO THE HEART, OK, JUST TO BE BLUNT, I THINK WE CAN ALL GENERALLY AGREE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE HIGHER EDUCATION INFRASTRUCTURE HERE THAT MAKES THIS RELEVANT. BUT I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE AS WELL THAT THERE'S PROBABLY WAYS THAT THEY COULD CONSIDER BUILDING IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD MAKE THE USE OF EXAMPLE LIKE ELECTRIC BICYCLES ARE MORE FEASIBLE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE LIVE IN A CITY IN WHICH OUTSIDE OF USING A CAR, IT'S VERY FEASIBLE TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B RIGHT FROM WHERE I LIVE.
THERE'S NOT REALLY I COULD NOT GET TO A GROCERY STORE AND BACK.
AND SO MAYBE WE WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WE SET A GOAL THAT, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATE, YOU KNOW, WAYS SORRY, THIS GATEWAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD INCORPORATE, UM, IN ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION INTO FUTURE CITY PLANNING.
OR IT WAS IN THE OLD ONE, THAT SAME KIND OF VERBIAGE.
ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S IN GOLD, TOO.
YEAH, SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE IF IF ANYTHING, IT'S THE COLLABORATING WITH THE SCHOOL THAT WE HAVE NOW TO ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION AMONG THEIR STUDENT BODY.
AND OTHERWISE, IT'S SPECIFIC TO A TYPE OF CAMPUS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN YEARS ALONG THE SAME LINES, REALLY. AND MY QUESTION WAS, WAS THAT INTENDED FOR COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES OR ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS? SO IF IT IF IT IS FOR FOR SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S WORDED IN A WAY THAT MAKES ME UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS FOR A SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY STUDENT OR FOR SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
SO THOSE ARE MY TWO COMMENTS, IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO IMPROVE THOSE TWO POINTS WAY IN THERE. MADAM CHAIR, ON YOUR REMARKS ON E, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THE CITY HAS TAKEN ON THE ENDEAVOR OF, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, WHERE OF ROUND A FEW OF OUR SECONDARY, ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS, THEY HAVE BEEN IMPROVING SIDEWALKS, WIDENING, PUTTING THEM ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS, CROSSWALKS AND SO ON.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHTFULLY SO, THAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON, WHICH IS GOOD. SO IN OUR ENDEAVOR TO REWORD THAT ONE INTO A CITY GOAL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD EMPHASIZE A CONTINUING OF THE PRACTICE AND PERHAPS USE THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, WHICH WAS, IF I'M CORRECT, A GRANT PROGRAM AS AN EXAMPLE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE IS REMEMBER, THIS PLAN IS GOING TO OUTLIVE US, LOOKS BACK, THEY CAN LOOK BACK TO THAT PROJECT AND SAY, OK, WELL, THEY FOUND A STATE.
I THINK IT WAS A STATE, IF NOT FEDERAL GRANT.
THEY WENT AHEAD AND MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS SIDEWALKS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THESE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO SCHOOL GO IN.
SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE SHOULD NARROW THE SCOPE A LITTLE BIT ON HONY IN PARTICULAR.
AND JUST WHILE I'M SPEAKING, IF I MAY TO SAY D, I THINK THAT WE COULD REWORK THAT AND BRING THAT INTO THE BUSINESS PORTION.
BECAUSE TO YOUR PREVIOUS POINT, IF WE LOOK AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE SPECIFICALLY, WE COULD KIND OF CLASSIFY THAT AS A BUSINESS JUST AS WELL AS A IT'S NOT A CITY INSTITUTION INSTITUTION. RIGHT. SO MAYBE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE FLOW OF CONVERSATION, WE WE WORK HERE TO FIX UP AND LEAVE IT IN CITY AND THEN WE BRING D INTO BUSINESS AND TALK ABOUT IT MORE WHEN WE GET TO THAT SECTION.
THAT'S JUST MY FAULT. IT COULD BE THAT WE ENCOURAGE.
EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS OF ALL SORTS, AND THAT THEY GET COMBINED, WE ENCOURAGE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND WORK WITH AS EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE SUSTAINABLE AND SAFE ROUTES.
OR STUDENTS OF ALL AGES TO HAVE ALTERNATIVES TO PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLES.
WHAT I'M WHAT I'M TYPING IS SO CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE ALL SCHOOLS, THEN WE CAN
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MAKE LIKE A PARENTHESES, YOU KNOW, HIGHER EDUCATION, PRIMARY, SECONDARY.WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW ANIMAL TRANSPORTATION, SUSTAINABLE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT ACCESS TO.
I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT CORONATE.
CHARLES, SCHOOLS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE ACCESS TO SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE, UM, MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. YOU'RE SAYING, LESLIE, I APOLOGIZE.
I WAS MORE ENCOURAGE OR WORK WITH ALL EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS TO ENSURE THAT STUDENTS OF ALL AGES HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE.
MODES OF TRANSPORTATION OUTSIDE OF PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLES.
BE ABLE TO SAY IT AGAIN IF YOU HIT IT ONE MORE TIME.
SURE, OR WORK WITH OR ENCOURAGE.
EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS TO ENSURE THAT STUDENTS OF ALL AGES HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION OUTSIDE OF PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLES.
THOSE ARE ALL MINE. SO I'LL DEFER.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RESERVE IN, AND WHEN WE GET TO TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT BRINGING POINT D FROM CITY INTO BUSINESS AND REWORK.
GOAL NUMBER ONE, CITY OBJECTIVES A THROUGH F.
THANK YOU, SORRY FOR BEING LATE TO THE MEETING.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH CHOICE, BUT.
YEAH, THERE WERE EDITS I WOULD MAKE HERE, UM.
SEE, SO THAT THE VERB CONSIDER COMES FIRST AND THE PHRASE THE REST OF THE PHRASE.
AND THEN PUT AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE TO UNDERSTAND, SO LINE UP WITH THE OTHER.
LIKE TO COLLABORATE WITH COUNTY AND STATE IS TO TRY TO CREATE.
WELL, I DON'T I GUESS, TO CREATE AMONG COLLEGES ROUTES FROM COLLEGE TO COLLEGE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SAME THING FOR HIGH SCHOOLS HERE, FOR ELEMENTARY AND HIGH SCHOOLS THAT.
IT WOULD BE SAFE, I MENTIONED SAFER OUT TO THE SCHOOL, SAFER OUT FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL, UM, BUT MOST OF MY.
WERE AND THE B, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT USING TRAFFIC FLOW DATA, THAT WAS TO USE THAT DATA TO DETERMINE WHERE TO PUT THE ADAPTIVE SIGNALS THAT WE NEEDED.
YEAH. SUSAN, YOUR COMMENT? YES. BEFORE DISCUSSING THE CITY, I WANTED TO ASK ON THOSE GOALS THIS. THERE WERE THREE GOALS IN THE ORIGINAL TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY PLAN, AND NOW THERE ARE THREE GOALS IN THE PLAN THAT MR. IGLA DID AND I WANTED TO.
A KEY GOAL, ONE AND TWO AND CHANGE GOAL THREE.
AND MAYBE ADD A FOURTH, IF THAT IS.
ASKING. THE POINTS THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP, ARE THEY NOT INTEGRATED? IN TO THE NEW ONE, WOULD COULD YOU INTEGRATE THEM INTO THEM? THE POINTS THAT YOU WANTED TO KEEP FROM THE OLD ONE.
YES. IN FACT, NUMBER THREE ON THE OLD DOCUMENT, I WANT TO REPLACE NUMBER THREE ON THE.
THE LANGUAGE OF IT'S THE LANGUAGE, AND I HAVE A FEW TWEAKS ON THE LANGUAGE, BUT BASICALLY. THINK IT.
SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT GOAL THREE BE MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE
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TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE BY IMPLEMENTING AND OR IMPROVING MARKETING STRATEGY.MAXIMIZES THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WOULD PUT A PERIOD AFTER THAT, ACTUALLY.
ARE YOU SO ON NUMBER THREE ON THE NEW ONE, IF IT READ REDUCED NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF EXISTING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE? MY SUGGESTION IS JUST TO SAY MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF YOU DID THAT, WOULD IT CHANGE? THE OBJECTIVES.
THE OBJECTIVE STILL BE RELATIVE TO THE GOAL? WELL, IT'S KIND OF. TWO ENDS OF THE SAME SPECTRUM, YOU'RE EITHER MAXIMIZING OR REDUCING, OH, MAYBE NOT.
HOPE NOT. I'M SURE IF I MAY, CAN WE PERHAPS ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE GET TO GO THREE AND WE'RE WORKING ON GOAL ONE AND WE'RE IN THE COMMUNITY SECTION, AND IT'S JUST TO KEEP THE FLOW OF CONVERSATION AND AND LET EVERYONE REALLY FOCUS IN ON EACH SECTION SO WE CAN GIVE IT ITS DUE DILIGENCE.
OK, SO CAME ON GOAL ONE AS IT IS IN THE NEW DOCUMENT.
WELL, YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE.
HOW HOW WOULD YOU LIKE GOOGLE WANTED NOW? I TYPED UP THE COMMENTS THAT I'M GOING TO BE MAKING.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THESE PANEL.
THAT. BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SHARE THEM WITH OUR SCRIBE AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCORPORATED INTO THE DOCUMENT, I HAVE EVEN DONE THAT ALREADY.
RIDHA. SHARE THAT WITH YOUR BOARD AND WE'LL MAKE THAT PART OF THE RECORD.
YOU'RE MY. BASICALLY ON THE ONE TO THE EVEN YOU I'VE JUST TWEAKED WHAT IS IN INSTEAD OF INVEST IN SMART TECHNOLOGY, I SAY INVEST IN AND EXPAND CURRENTLY USE SMART TECHNOLOGIES TO CREATE NEW AND EXPANDED CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND.
TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY NEEDS OF ALL CITIZENS.
IS THAT ADDRESSING TRAFFIC? BECAUSE THAT THAT GOAL, AS THE ZIGGLER DOCUMENT HAS, IS IT IS REFERRING TO TRAFFIC.
TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. THINK AND HAVE CHANGED IT.
REVIEW WHETHER A CHANGE OF STRUCTURE.
AT LARGE IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD AGREES WITH.
THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT IS JUST I'VE PROPOSED AN ALTERNATIVE SENTENCE AND MAYBE FOR WEAKNESS, WE CAN JUST.
DO THE BOARD MEMBERS FEEL THAT THAT CAPTURES THE OR CHANGES THAT SIGNIFICANTLY ENOUGH THAT IT ALTERS THE DOCUMENT BEYOND? WHAT IT WAS. IN ONE COMMENT.
MY PROPOSITION HERE WOULD BE THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO BRING IN MISS CONNELLY'S DOCUMENT AND FOCUS IN ON THAT INSTEAD OF MISS SIEGLER'S, IF THAT MOTION WERE TO BE SECONDED AND WE COULD DISCUSS THAT IDEA AND THEN WE COULD IN DUE TIME BRING THAT TO A VOTE.
AND THEN ONCE WE'VE HAD A VOTE ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, WE CAN MOVE ON IF WE DECIDE TO GO THIS DIRECTION.
GOOD. IF WE DECIDE TO STICK WITH MRS. ZEIGLER'S GOOD, BUT THAT GIVES US THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT IN A STRUCTURED OR LOOK AT THE IDEA OF CHANGING ON THE FLY IN A STRUCTURED MANNER.
AND ALSO, LET'S JUST COME TO A DEFINITIVE CONCLUSION OF EITHER WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE NOT
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GOING TO WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED WE JUST RECEIVED THESE CHANGES AND WE ALL HAD THE ZIGGLER DOCUMENT TO REVIEW.SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE IN OUR TIME TO TAKE THE ZIGGLER DOCUMENT ADAPTER OR ADD TO IT, BUT.
IS GOING TO REALLY SLOW US DOWN TO COMPLETELY CHUCK IT.
I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP, I THINK.
WE SHOULD TRY TO COLLAPSE AND BE VERY BRIEF IN OUR GOALS AND EYE AND SEE IF THIS COMBINES BOTH WHAT WE'RE BOTH TRYING TO SAY, IF WE JUST USED THE BEGINNING OF IT, INVEST IN, INVEST IN AND EXPAND MARK TECHNOLOGIES AND LEAVE OFF THE TWO, WHETHER IT'S TO CREATE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S TO UNDERSTAND AND MANAGE TRAFFIC, THE THRUST OF THIS GOAL IS TO. INVEST IN AND EXPAND SMART TECHNOLOGIES INVOLVING TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY IS THAT CAPTURE IT FOR.
PEOPLE AND LEAVE IT BROAD ENOUGH, THAT SPECIFIC.
METHODS COULD BE IN OUR CITY AND BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY ACTION.
OH, IF I IF I COULD RESPOND, I THINK WE HAVE A FEW, ALMOST LIKE A FEW CONVERSATIONS GOING ON. SO IF I COULD, I'M JUST GOING TO OFFER THAT PERHAPS WE COULD USE THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK.
UM, MAYBE WE COULD JUST USE IT AS ALMOST LIKE A QUICKLY ABBREVIATED VERSION OF SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS. I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE THINGS TO ADD.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT IT COULD BE A REALLY CONCISE WAY AS WE GO THROUGH THE POINTS TO LOOK IN AND SEE THE THOUGHTS YOU HAVE.
AND WE CAN STILL WORK PRIMARILY FROM REBECCA ZIEGLER'S, UH, DOCUMENT.
UM. AND THEN AS IT PERTAINS TO SPECIFICALLY THAT GOAL, I WILL SAY THAT I THINK THERE'S A GOOD. LET ME JUST PUT IT THIS WAY, UNDERCITY NUMBER OR LETTER F DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TRAFFIC. SO THERE IS A LEGITIMATE REASON TO EXPAND GOING BEYOND THE SCOPE OF TRAFFIC, AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD WORKSHOP, A BALL AND CHAIN.
I'D LOVE FOR US TO MAYBE TALK THROUGH HOW WE COULD EXPAND ONE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FIND A MIDDLE GROUND, BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS MAYBE JUST A TAD WORDY AND BEING A LITTLE NITPICKY.
BUT I LIKE THIS IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY WANT SMART TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE GOING TO BETTER MANAGE TRAFFIC.
UM. YOU KNOW, WHAT IF WHAT IF IT WAS SIMPLY INVEST IN SMART TECHNOLOGIES TO UNDERSTAND BETTER MANAGE TRAFFIC AND TO EXPAND SUSTAINABLE, UH, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT AND THAT WAY WE COULD ADD THINGS MAYBE AS WE TALK AND THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE OTHER CHARGES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT COULD ALLOW US TO ADD CHARGING STATIONS THAT BUSINESSES LIKE THAT AS A GOAL AND IT WOULD STILL COVER THAT.
UM, WHAT'S THE BOARD'S THOUGHTS ON THAT? I AGREE. IF YOU CAN CONCISELY COMBINE WHAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO GO ONE AND THEN WE CAN KEEP THESE CITY GOALS AND THEN WORK IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC GOALS TO ADD TO THAT, ONCE YOU'VE YOU KNOW, WE'VE CHANGED THE VERBIAGE JUST A LITTLE BIT THERE.
IS THAT OK WITH YOU? AND HE SAID IT OK, SO CAN YOU THEN GIVE US WHAT YOUR CITY OBJECTIVES WOULD BE UNDER THAT NEW GOAL? DID HE OBJECTIVES ARE.
MUCH A, B, C, I, D I WOULD, AND I KNOW RANDALL SAID, WAIT UNTIL THE BUSINESS.
BUT JUST VERY BRIEFLY, RANDALL, I WANTED TO EXPAND IT.
BICYCLE CULTURE TO MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITY, NOT LIMITED, BUT PUT THE FOCUS ON BICYCLE CULTURE.
UH. E, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IF I JUST REWORKED IT, YOU CAN SEE IN THE DOCUMENT I'VE GIVEN YOU REPLACE AGING CITY OWNED VEHICLES WITH ELECTRIC ALTERNATIVE VEHICLES, EXPAND INSTALLATION.
CHARGING STATIONS STARTING AT CITY HALL, YOU STOLE THE CANOPY FOR ELECTRICITY AND BATTERY CHARGING IT WAS IN THE DOCUMENT JUST TWEAKED.
I REALLY LIKE THE TWEEKS. I AGREE WITH THAT CHANGE TO F.
AND ON D AS THE THE OTHER OBJECTIVES.
I BELIEVE ADDRESS A LOT OF BICYCLING.
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LATER ON IN THE OTHER OBJECTIVES, SO THAT THAT MAY BE A BIT REDUNDANT.MY SUGGESTION. LET'S COME BACK TO THAT NUMBER, LEONARD, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE WE KEEP COMING BACK TO HAVING A PROBLEM ON AND GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO BUSINESS.
I LEFT. IF WE COULD GET ME AS I FINISHED TYPING THIS AND I'LL JUST COME BACK, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, JUST BRIEFLY BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I APOLOGIZE, BUT NOT TO BACKTRACK, BUT ON SEE, FOR CITI, I JUST WANTED TO ESTABLISH THAT THE INTENT HERE IS CAMERAS AND OR DRONES FOR A MONITORING PERSPECTIVE, NOT FOR AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
RIGHT. AND WE'RE ALL TAKING IT MITIGATE WELL, TO MITIGATE.
IN THE WORD THERE THAT CATCHES YOU DOES EXACTLY AND I CAN SEE IT GOING BOTH WAYS.
SO WHEN I FIRST READ IT, I READ IT AS MITIGATE AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT.
BUT THEN I READ IT A FEW MORE TIMES AND I SAID, OK, WELL, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD WITHIN WHETHER IT'S PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, A TRAFFIC CENTER, YOU KNOW, OF SORT WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THERE'S CONGESTION AND THEN COMMUNICATE WITH THAT WITH THE CITIZENS, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INTENTIONAL IN OUR WORDING SO THAT IT'S NOT CONSTRUED AS SUGGESTING ENFORCEMENT.
AS I'M SURE MOST OF US KNOW, THE CITY'S BEEN DOWN THE ROAD OF ENFORCEMENT WITH TRAFFIC CAMERAS IN THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL PRACTICE. AND WE'VE SINCE DISCONTINUED THE PRACTICE.
SO I THINK MONITORING WHAT WAS THE INTENT, MY MY INTENT WAS SO THEY COULD IDENTIFY WELL TO IDENTIFY PLACES WHERE THAT SYRIANS ARE KILLED AND FLASHING CROSSWALKS, FOR INSTANCE, TO TO MAKE CHANGES, TO STOP, TO KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO MAKE CHANGES.
AND I SEE CARS MAKE RIGHT TURN ON RED INTO A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK THAT'S OCCUPIED BY FAMILIES. AND THEY DON'T CARE.
THEY SEE THEM. THEY DON'T CARE.
IT IS FOR ME, I KIND OF WISH THERE WERE CAMERAS THERE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO THROW OUT THEIR ARMS TO STOP THEIR KIDS.
SO YOU ALREADY HAD READ HAD SUGGESTED THE CHANGE ON THAT, REBECCA, THAT WE CAN THAT WE'RE REWARDING IT, CONSIDER THE USE OF CAMERAS ON TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND DRONES IN ORDER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND. AREAS.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO JUST GET RID OF THE WORD MITIGATE.
AND WE JUST I'M SO SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT IT OFF.
UM. WHAT IF WE JUST GIVE THE GOAL AND WE ALLOW THE MEANS TO BE UP TO THE CITY? SO WHAT IF WE WERE TO SAY, UNDERSTAND AND WORK TO MITIGATE PROBLEMATIC INCIDENTS AT.
INTERSECTIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT THE BEST WORDING, SO I COULD USE SOME HELP OF THAT. BUT THAT WAY, IF THEY CHOOSE USE CAMERAS, IF THEY DON'T, WE'RE REALLY NOT INFERRING WHAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS.
AND IT COULD ALSO AVOID, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NEGATIVE IMPRESSIONS WHEN PEOPLE READ THIS BECAUSE I WAS AROUND IN PALM BAY WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE UP AND, YOU KNOW, I, UH.
YEAH. ANYWAY, UH, SO I REMEMBER ALL THAT.
UH, SO. I MEAN, A LOT OF HEART ATTACKS.
DO THEY SEE THAT? LET'S SO LET'S GO DOWN TO ANTIBUSINESS, AND WHILE YOU'RE TYPING, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START AND WE'LL FINISH WITH YOU.
UM, THE MY ONLY COMMENT IS THAT A AND C SEEM TO BE THE SAME THING.
AND THAT SCENE COULD BE DELETED BECAUSE IT REPEATS A.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I CONCUR WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT THERE, AND ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO KIND OF DRAW ATTENTION TO A&E IN THIS ACTUALLY HELPS ADDRESS A POINT THAT MR. SNYDER BROUGHT UP EARLIER, WHICH WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE THIS CONCEPT OUT OF BUSINESS.
BUT WHEN I READ A&E, BOTH POINTS MADE ME THINK OF HARRIS OR ELSTREE HARRIS.
THIS IS REFERRED TO NOW IN THE YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, DHAFER, A LOT OF THEM, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY, LIVE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, WHETHER IT'S THE TURKEY CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE BACALAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY'VE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES OVER THE YEARS TO DO EXACTLY THIS, WHETHER IT'S RIDE THEIR BIKE TO WORK OR TO CARPOOL OR THINGS OF THE SORT.
AND TO THE POINT THAT MR. SNYDER BROUGHT UP EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WITH THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS, THERE'S THE LUXURY OF THE FACT THAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES FROM OUT OF TOWN, OUT OF STATE TO WORK AT ELSTREE
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HARRIS, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO SHOP IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA WITH THE GOAL AND INTENT TO WHETHER IT'S FOR THEIR OWN PHYSICAL HEALTH OR FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR OUR CITY AND OUR PLANET TO DO THESE THINGS.SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHARE HERE IS MY DESIRE FOR US TO BRING OUR DESIRE AS A BOARD TO INFLUENCE THE DEVELOPMENT AS WE LOOK TO BRING IN MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND AND THINGS OF THIS SORT TO PLACE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IN A WAY THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO THIS EXACT LIFESTYLE. AND SO I LOVE THAT IT'S IN BUSINESS.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO THESE THESE TWO THINGS AND DO BUSINESS.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, MAYBE IF IT'S NOT EVEN IN THIS GOAL, BUT WITHIN TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUMMARIZE OUR DESIRE TO TO GET THE PLANNERS OF OUR CITY TO LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH THAT LENS.
AND THAT WAS IN THE OLD PLAN UNDER CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, WAS TO CONCENTRATE DEVELOPMENT IN COMPACT, HUMAN SCALED, WALKABLE CENTERS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CONNECT TO PUBLIC TRANSIT, OFFER DIVERSE USES AND SERVICES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE.
YEAH, WHICH WHICH GOAL? SO I CAN GO TO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE A AND WHEN I READ BACK THROUGH THE OLD DOCUMENT, THAT WAS THE ONE AND ONLY PIECE THAT I DIDN'T SEE INCLUDED IN THE NEW ONE.
SO MAYBE THAT'S PART OF GOAL TO.
WHEN WE COME TO IT FOR GOLD TO CITY OBJECTIVES, YES, MA'AM, LET'S LOOK AT IT THEN.
OK. NOTHING ELSE FOR BUSINESSMEN.
NO, MA'AM, THANK YOU. WE'RE ON ALL ONE BUSINESS, YES.
AND MISS ZIGGLER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOUR NEXT.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, SINCE YOU HAVE A QUORUM, I KNOW MY VOICE, THE SHOT, I'M GOING, IT HURTS ACTUALLY A BIT.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IF YOU I THINK YOU THE DOCUMENTS PRETTY CLEAR.
I HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO REPORT. WE HAD IT. I KNEW IT WASN'T PERFECT.
BASICALLY, I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER.
RIGHT, OKAY, THEN YOU CAN PROCEED OR SUSAN I'M SORRY, SUSAN, I CALL YOU ALL THE TIME.
I WANTED TO GO BACK TO A THREAD ABOUT WHAT MR. IGLA WAS SAYING ABOUT INTENT TO HAVE.
I KIND OF MISS THAT I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE, BUT I THINK THAT IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POINT CURRENTLY IN OUR.
NOUN'S. THINK ABOUT THE WHAT WAS THE ROOTS.
SAFE ROUTES, BUT SHE SAID THE RESEARCH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SO THE CITY COULD IDENTIFY.
AREAS WHERE DEATHS HAD OCCURRED SO THAT THEY COULD IDENTIFY THOSE AND REPLACE THEM WITH THESE. THIS TECHNOLOGY.
THAT YOU SEE WHICH ONE IS THAT I MISSED IT, IT WAS IN OUR TALK CITY OBJECTIVE C.
NO, THAT WAS I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S WHERE WE INCLUDED IT.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE I JUST KIND OF MASSAGE THOSE.
OH. EXCEPT THAT LANGUAGE, I DON'T THINK I'VE CHANGED TOO MUCH IN THE INTENT, EXCEPT FOR NO SEE, I WOULD DELETE THAT.
F EVERYTHING THROUGH F, THEN G IS A NEW ONE WHERE I WOULD SAY SUPPORT AND PERHAPS EVEN REWARD BUSINESSES PROVIDING SERVICES THAT USE ENERGY EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION METHODS AND HAVE ENERGY EFFICIENT POLICY.
BASICALLY, I WOULD ACCEPT WITH TWEEKS A THROUGH F THAT IN THE ZIGGLER PLAN AND THEN G.
IS JI REFERRING TO THE CITY SUPPORTING THE BUSINESSES? THAT WOULD BE A CITY OBJECTIVE THEN, THAT THE CITY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
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WELL, UM.AND THAT'S APPROPRIATE BECAUSE WE WE ADDRESS THE CITY SUPPORTING EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, THE CITY CAN ALSO SUPPORT BUSINESSES AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO JUST MOVE IT UP.
OK. SO A FEW THINGS, THE VERY FIRST ONE IS I'M REALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LEADING SEE, FROM AN EMPLOYEE RELATIONS PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD IDEA FOR EMPLOYERS TO SURVEY THEIR PEOPLE.
UM, IT CAN CREATE ISSUES WITH EQUITY.
REALLY. EMPLOYERS SHOULD JUST ASK, DO YOU HAVE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION TO WORK? YES, NO. AND BEYOND THAT CAN GET INTO SOME.
ONE KEY THING WITH EMPLOYEE LAW, SO I WAS JUST I JUST LIKE THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS I REWORKED BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK YOU HAD.
UM, AND I'D LIKE TO READ THE NEW WORDING.
GOD BLESS NICOLE. OK, UH, I THINK FOR D.
AND I THINK THE ONE EVERY WORD.
UM. OH, YES, SO CONSIDER WAYS TO REDUCE OBSTACLES TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, FOR INSTANCE, AND EMPLOYEE SPONSORED AFTER REQUESTS AND EMPLOYER SHUTTLE TO OR FROM BUS STOPS, COMMA, FLEXIBLE WORK HOURS, COMMA AND REMOTE WORK OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THAT WOULD REPLACE BE B WOULD BE DELETED BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING THAT CONTENT FROM B AND WRAPPING IT IN TO D, BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF EVERYONE LIKED THAT, THAT REVISION BEFORE I.
AND FINALIZE THE. IT'S READ IT BACK ONE MORE TIME.
ABSOLUTELY. SO WE SHOULD BE GETTING RID OF B AND INSTEAD D WOULD SAY CONSIDER WAYS TO REDUCE OBSTACLES TO YOU, OBSTACLES TO, YOU SHOULD SAY, TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
LET ME LEAVE THAT OF. SO CONSIDER WAYS TO REDUCE OBSTACLES, TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, FOR INSTANCE, AND EMPLOYEE SPONSORED APP TO REQUEST AN EMPLOYER SHUTTLE TO SLASH FROM BUS STOP, COMMA, FLEXIBLE WORK HOURS, COMMA AND REMOTE WORK OPPORTUNITIES.
IT'S I THINK I'D REALLY LIKE TO CHANGE THE BEGINNING OF JUST HAVING A HARD TIME THINKING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S REALLY NOT JUST WAYS TO REDUCE OBSTACLES TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S REALLY JUST OBSTACLES FOR TRANSPORTATION TO WORK, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, REMOTE WORK OR FLEXIBLE HOURS IN A.
IF ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT IT MAY MAKE THE NEED FOR TRANSPORTATION MORE LIMITED OR ELIMINATED ENTIRELY.
I COULD USE A LITTLE HELP REWORDING THE BEGINNING OF THAT.
UM. COURAGE, USE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
INSTEAD OF A NEGATIVE REDUCING OBSTACLES, IT JUST IS TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR OR MAYBE ENCOURAGE THE REDUCTION.
HELP EMPLOYEES REDUCE THE USE OF PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLES BY INCREASING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR YEAH, AND THEN TO INCLUDE FLEX WORK HOURS AND WOULD IDENTIFY AND ELIMINATE OBSTACLES.
PUTTING UP OBSTACLES TO WHAT IS KIND OF THE QUESTION, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO YOU SAID WAYS THAT OBSTACLES.
SO THIS WOULD BE, UM, SO I THINK SORRY.
I'M JUST GOING TO IF YOU'RE OK WITH I'M GOING TO TALK MY KIND OF LIKE UNTIL YOU PROCESS THIS. SO ULTIMATELY, HIS GOAL IS A IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CARS ON THE ROAD DRIVING TO WORK? LIKE REALLY LIKE IF WE'RE GETTING TO THE HEART OF IT, IT'S JUST THAT CAR POOLING HELPS.
REMOTE WORK HELPS. I MEAN, JUST LETS PEOPLE GET IT IN THE CAR DRIVE.
AND FLEXIBLE WORK HOURS CAN HELP TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF HOURS ON THE ROAD DURING PEAK HOURS AND ALSO BE REALLY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT'S LESS DRIVING TIME WHEN YOU'RE NOT RUSH HOUR. SO IF THAT'S THE GOAL, THE BEST WAY TO WORD, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE.
REDUCE, UM, UM, HOW ABOUT THIS MAYBE SUPPORT THE REDUCTION OF, UM, TRAFFIC BY ENCOURAGING
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THE USE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, COMMA, UM, PROVIDING FLEXIBLE WORK HOURS, COMMA OR OR AND OR PROVIDING REMOTE WORK OPPORTUNITIES.THE BIG REWORK, THOUGH, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS ME TO REPEAT THAT, LET ME.
MAY. PERHAPS EMPOWER EMPLOYEES TO SEEK OUT ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION, SUCH AS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE THE WE COULD WRITE THE EXAMPLES OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO EMPOWER OUR EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT I REALLY LIKE.
ENCOURAGING MORE REMOTE WORK MEETINGS WITH ME PERSONALLY, MY EMPLOYER HAS ALREADY DECLARED THAT WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR TRADITIONAL OFFICE MODEL.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HYBRID MODEL.
AND WHAT THEY SAY IS BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR TIME AT HOME AND WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR RETIME IN THE OFFICE WHEN WHEN COLLABORATION IS NECESSARY.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE IN THE SAME ROOM WHERE WE HAVE THE ACCESS TO OFFICES OR AT LEAST WE'RE GOING TO HEAR HOPEFULLY IN THE SUMMER.
BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF HEAD DOWN WORK WHERE YOUR DATA CRUNCHING OR WHAT HAVE YOU A HOME AND DO IT IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR HOME OFFICE WHERE IT'S NICE AND QUIET. SO I FEEL EMPOWERED BY MY EMPLOYER WHEN THEY TELL ME THAT.
SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, EMPOWERING THE EMPLOYEES TO TO TO REDUCE THEIR USE OF PRIVATE TRANSPORT OR IF WE WANT TO GO WITH THE POSITIVE, EMPOWER THE EMPLOYEES TO SEEK OUT ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION OR THINGS OF THE SORT.
UM, I WROTE SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN VOTE VIA THUMBS UP OR SOMETHING.
UM, BUT EMPOWER EMPLOYEES TO SEEK OUT WAYS TO REDUCE TRAFFIC, SUCH AS INCREASING USE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PROVIDING FLEXIBLE WORK HOURS CUMA AND INCREASING REMOTE WORK OPPORTUNITIES. I REALLY LIKE THE WORD EMPOWER, TOO, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO START EVERY ONE OF THESE WITH A STRONG WORD.
I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE I DO LIKE THAT, UM, AND I THINK WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE CITY FOR SURE. AND JUST A SMALL REWORDING ON THAT WHEN WE DO MOVE IT TO THE CITY.
SUPPORT BUSINESSES BY PROVIDING RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO THEM TO TO.
I KEEP FLIPPING BETWEEN LIKE BEING A SCRIBE AND TRYING TO BE A BOARD MEMBER, AND MULTITASKING ISN'T MY GIFT AS MY WIFE.
UM, SO BUT SOMETHING WHERE WE JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE NARROWED WHAT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITIES ACTUALLY GOING TO BE.
AND SO JUST SUPPORT BUSINESSES BY PROVIDING RESOURCES TO HELP THEM USE ENERGY EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION METHODS AND CREATE ENERGY EFFICIENT POLICIES.
SMALL TWEAK TO MAKE IT FIT LITTLE MORE INTO THE PICTURE.
UH, YEAH, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT AND I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW THIS SECTION IS COMING OUT. HEY, LET'S MOVE TO COMMUNITY.
MY ONLY SUGGESTION ON THIS SECTION WAS.
CAN WE SAY MORE ABOUT HOW THE SCHOOLS MIGHT BE ABLE TO REDUCE IDLING IN KAMLOOPS? NOT SURE THAT THE WAY THAT THAT'S WORDED IT.
NOT SURE IS STRONG ENOUGH, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE I WANT TO GO WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S I'M TRYING TO SEE CAN THE SCHOOLS DO MORE THERE? IS THERE A WAY TO WORD THAT DIFFERENTLY THAT ENCOURAGES THE SCHOOLS TO FIND SOME WAYS TO REDUCE THE IDLING IN KAMLOOPS? I HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT THE FOCUS BE ON IDLING VEHICLES NOT ONLY FOR INSTANCES IN THE SCHOOLS, BUT I'M THINKING OF IN THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY AND ANYTHING THAT.
KNAPP'S. NOT SURE HOW THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY THAT BECAUSE IT'S HOT IN FLORIDA AND.
NOT SURE WHAT INFLUENCE WE CAN HAVE.
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WITH THE SCHOOLS, THERE ARE METHODS OF STAGGERING HICCUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS WHAT I WAS KIND OF THINKING THROUGH.THEY LIKE WHERE YOU'RE HEADING WITH THEIR MADAM CHAIR, I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY JUST KIND OF REAFFIRM IT AS JUMPING INTO THIS ONE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE SEE AS WRITTEN IS VERY FEASIBLE. I PERSONALLY CANNOT GET ANYWHERE ON TIME.
THAT'S JUST A NERVOUS TICK THING, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S PICKING UP MY KID.
MY KID WILL NOT BE THE LAST ONE AT PICK UP.
IT JUST WON'T HAPPEN. MAYBE IT'S A CHILDHOOD MEMORY.
I DON'T KNOW. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS IN ON OUR SUGGESTIONS TO SCHOOLS, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR LETTER, YOUR CLASS, YOUR CLASSES AT 243 AND MRS. JONES CLASSES AT 246 AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I LOVE THAT. I WOULD SAY IF WE GO THAT ROUTE, THAT WE SHOULD EITHER ELIMINATE ENTIRELY OR TAKE OUT TO A DIFFERENT SUB POINT THE SITUATION WITH PICKING UP THE PREORDERED GOODS OR GROCERIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
I COULD DIALOG ABOUT THAT PORTION, BUT RIGHT NOW I'D LIKE TO JUST STAY ON SCHOOLS.
IF WE GET TO THAT. I HAVE PLENTY TO SAY IF WE DECIDE TO TOSS IT AND THEN I WON'T I WON'T USE UP THE TIME. SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY, YEAH, WE SHOULD WE SHOULD REWORD THIS.
AND IF WE WANT TO HONE IN ON, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH SCHOOLS, I THINK THAT THEY WOULD EMBRACE THAT. YOU KNOW, I ALSO, THOUGH, WANT TO SEE WHERE CAN WE REALLY PUT THAT, THAT IT'S ACTIONABLE? WHO'S GOING TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS TRY THIS OR PICK UP TIME? YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A CITY GOAL, WE COULD SAY THAT SOMEONE WITHIN THE CITY IS GOING TO SUGGESTED IT WAS A BUSINESS GOAL.
WE COULD SAY BUSINESS OWNERS ARE GOING TO GO AFTER.
BUT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, EVERYTHING IS REALLY A SUGGESTION FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO ACT. SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION ACTING.
DOES IT FIT IN COMMUNITY? IT'S TOTALLY FINE BY ME IF WE WANT TO MOVE THAT.
ALLOW SCHOOLS, PUT IT UNDER BUSINESSES, SUGGEST STAGGERED PICKUP TIMES TO REDUCE IDLING IN A. IN A PICK UP LINE AND THEN.
I HAVE NO FRAME OF REFERENCE OR IDEAS THAT I HAVE COME ACROSS WITH, LIKE THE THE, YOU KNOW, THE MCDONALD'S DRIVE THRU AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
SO IF YOU HAVE THOSE, THAT'D BE AWESOME.
BUT I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH MOVING SCHOOLS UP TO BUSINESS AND JUST MAKE THAT KIND OF A VERY CLEAR, SIMPLE GOAL. AND JUST JUST TO ADDRESS THE LATTER PORTION, WHICH AGAIN WOULD BE TO BUSINESS, I WOULD SAY I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH WITH DRIVE UP OR PICKUP SITUATION WITH TWO LOCAL RETAILERS, AND I'LL TRY NOT TO.
I'LL TRY NOT TO MENTION THE NAMES OF ONE, BUT ANYWAYS, THE ONE WITH THE DOT, THE SECOND YOU ROLL OUT THE ASSOCIATE AS THEY ARE HANDING YOU YOUR STUFF BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN STOP, THEY'VE ACTUALLY CREATED DRIVE THRU SPACES, SO YOU JUST KEEP ON ROLLING.
SO THEY WOULD BE THE EXAMPLE, THE ONE THAT RHYMES WITH DOLLY.
YOU COULD SIT OUT THERE FOR 20 MINUTES.
AND TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TURN YOUR CAR OFF IN FLORIDA.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE PREVIOUS POINT ABOUT EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS TO BUSINESS, PERHAPS WE COULD CARRY THE OTHER.
AND JUST YOU KNOW, AND THEN I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, TO BREAK IT OUT INTO A SUB POINT, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BE A BUSINESSES.
LET'S WORK ON THE TIMING OF YOUR OF YOUR PICKUP SERVICES, BECAUSE WITH THE TWO THAT I MENTIONED, YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKED TO CHECK IN BEFORE YOU EVEN LEAVE YOUR HOME AND THEY USE YOUR PHONE'S TRACKING TO KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE.
SO THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THERE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF EXECUTION.
SO I LIKE THAT THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN FORWARD THINKING ENOUGH TO GET THAT FAR.
BUT IT FALLS IN EXECUTION AT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES.
I TO MAKE THAT INTO AN OBJECTIVE.
OR THE BUSINESSES. I I HAVE A YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS, SO MAYBE A REWORK OR C COULD SOUND LIKE IT BECAUSE REMEMBER TALKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, CAN COMMUNITY MEMBERS DO, UM, COMMIT TO AVOIDING.
SORRY. YEAH. COMMIT TO AVOIDING IDLING VEHICLES PARENTHESES WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO.
RIGHT. BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THE HEAT INFORMED ME MAY NOT MAKE THAT SAFE.
ALWAYS CLOSE PARENTHESES WHILE IN LINE TO PICK UP CHILDREN AT SCHOOL OR PICKING UP PREORDERED GOODS, TAKE OUT GROCERIES AND IT'S JUST THEY'RE GOING TO COMMIT.
YOU KNOW, KAZAR, TODAY WOULD HAVE BEEN A FINE DAY TO KEEP THOSE WINDOWS DOWN AND TURN THE
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CAR OFF, YOU KNOW, AND. WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO CHANGE THE BIG BEHAVIORS LIKE SHOWING UP EARLY TO PICK UP KIDS, UM, BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COMMIT SMALLER THINGS IN THIS SHAMELESS PLUG FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.SAYING, SAYING, WHICH ACTUALLY DOES BRING ME TO SOMETHING THEY LIKE TO ADD, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME MY TURN. THEY'RE NOT.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I CONCUR WITH BOTH BOTH OF MR. SNYDER'S POINTS, ONE, LET'S LET'S WEAR IT LIKE THAT SO THAT WE DON'T GET LOST TRYING TO FIT IT INTO BUSINESS.
AND IT IS ACTIONABLE AND AND IT IS APPROPRIATE AND COMMUNITY.
AND SHAMELESS KNOT IN YOUR PLUG FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BECAUSE I ALSO WANTED TO PLUG IN WHETHER IT'S THIS OR OUR FUTURE.
YOU KNOW, THE THE MUNICIPALITY VEHICLES AND A CERTAIN AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURER I KNOW INTIMATELY OFFERS POLICE VEHICLES THAT ARE HYBRIDS FOR THIS SPECIFIC REASON, AMONG OTHERS, NOT ONLY TO SAVE FUEL, BUT WHEN THE OFFICERS ARE IDLING OR WHEN THE CANINE UNITS HAVE A CANINE OFFICER IN THE BACK THAT NEEDS TO HAVE THE COOLING SYSTEM ON.
THAT SYSTEM IS ABLE TO RUN PURELY ON ELECTRICITY, NOT USE GASOLINE.
SO WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY, WHETHER IT'S IN A FUTURE GOAL OR WHAT TO UN SHAMELESSLY PLUG THE ELECTRIC AND HYBRID VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY IN THE MUNICIPALITY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TESLA, RIGHT? NOT AT ALL. ALL RIGHT, AND SUSAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THEN FOR I MEAN, NO.
I THOUGHT WE COULD ADD A D AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SPEAKING TO COMMUNITY, SPEAKING TO FAMILY MEMBERS AND WENT TO INVESTIGATE ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES SUCH AS ELECTRIC VEHICLES, COME TO SEE IF FEASIBLE FOR YOUR FAMILY'S NEEDS.
BECAUSE I JUST THINK A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE GOOD DECISIONS COME FROM JUST SEEING WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A GOOD DECISION.
IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE, BUT I THINK MORE PEOPLE WILL FIND IT IS.
AND I AGREE, OR I CAN SAY ABOUT EVEN THE BETTER.
IS EVERYONE ELSE IN AGREEMENT? WELL.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE TO GOLD TO YOU DESIGNING AND PLANNING FOR MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. CITY GOALS A THROUGH I.
OH, I HAD ADDED A FEW WORDS TO THAT.
I'D LIKE YOU TO FULLY ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE AT NIGHTTIME.
LOOKING IN HERE FOR ME, I'M TRYING TO FIND AN.
I GUESS I MISSED IT WHERE IN THE OLD PLAN, WE VERY SPECIFICALLY SAID REPLACE COMMIT TO REPLACING ALL CITY RETIRING CITY VEHICLES WITH ELECTRICAL VEHICLES.
IN CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH THERE IS AN IV OF EQUITABLE UTILITY AVAILABLE, DID THAT NOT GET TRANSFERRED ANYWHERE? IT'S SORRY, IT'S COAL ONE, UH, CITY, UM, F REPLACE AGING CITY OWNED VEHICLES WITH ELECTRIC MOTOR VEHICLES.
UM, WE CAN MAKE THAT FIRMER LANGUAGE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE OTHER ONE MAYBE WAS A LITTLE BIT FIRMER AND IT'S IT'S.
ELECTRICAL AND I MEAN, THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THAT'S COMMITMENT, IT'S FIRMLY MADE.
ACTIONABLE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER TO CHANGE AND GO TO CITY OBJECTIVE.
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I AM I AM SO HESITANT TO CONTINUE TO REFERENCE THE OLD PLAN BECAUSE WE WANT TO STAY ON THE NEW AND MODIFY IT, BUT I AM GOING TO DRAW FROM THE OLD IN THAT I LIKE CITY GOVERNMENT F AS FAR AS A PUBLIC CHARGING STATION AND MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS.
I'M GOING TO TAKE A PAGE OUT OF MR. SNYDER'S BOOK AND KIND OF BRAINSTORM OUT LOUD HERE AND FEEL FREE IF ANYBODY HEARS A SENTENCE AND ALL MY THOUGHTS TO SPIT THAT OUT.
BUT THE CITY MUST BE A LEADER IN SETTING UP CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY. MR. SNYDER AND HIS ELECTRIC VEHICLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ROLL UP TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR TO A MEETING OF THIS BOARD AND BE ABLE TO PLUG IN.
AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE FEASIBILITY, BECAUSE BESIDES ADAPTING THE LIFESTYLE AND INSTALLING A CHARGER IN YOUR HOME, THE MORE CHARGERS THAT ARE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE MORE FEASIBLE IT IS TO OWN AN ELECTRIC ELECTRIC
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VEHICLE. TO THAT END, IT MUST BE NOTED THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AS THEY ARE TODAY, THERE IS ONE MAJOR MANUFACTURER WHO WHO HANGS OUT ON AN ISLAND WHEN IT COMES TO CHARGERS, AND THEN THERE'S EVERY OTHER MANUFACTURER OF ANY OTHER ELECTRIC VEHICLE, AND THAT IS THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE CHARGERS.SO THE THE CHARGERS THAT YOU SEE WITH A T ONLY FIT THOSE TWO VEHICLES AND ALL OF THE OTHER VEHICLES THAT EXIST NECESSITATE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARGER.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL, TO HAVE A DIVERSE CHARGER, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATION SIMILAR TO HAVING A REGULAR 87 GAS PUMP AND A DIESEL PUMP.
BUT THE CITY HAS HAS MUST BE A LEADER IN THIS.
AND I WOULD, IF I'M ALLOWED TO DO SO, EXPAND THIS FROM NOT ONLY MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A CHARGING STATION IN OUR PARKS.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT IN ALL I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE PARKS.
I KNOW THAT'S AMBITIOUS, BUT PERHAPS WE COULD START WITH A DOZEN OR SO.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD TAKE US TO A POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY COULD CLASSIFY OURSELVES AS A SUSTAINABLE CITY, BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT AND REPRESENTED OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WHETHER IT'S ON A STATE, YOU KNOW, A FLORIDA STAGE OR A NATIONAL STAGE, BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT AS YOU LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU ENJOY THE AMENITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOUR LIFESTYLE OF SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION IS EMPOWERED TO USE THE EMPOWERED WORD AGAIN. SO A LOT THEY'RE SORRY, THAT'S KIND OF A BRAIN DUMP.
BUT I WANT TO SEE CHARGERS WITH THE WITH THE PALM BAY LOGO ON THEM.
AND I WANT THE PALM BAY TO TO SET THE EXAMPLE FOR THE OTHER BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY ADAPT AS WELL. I'M A HUGE SUPPORTER OF EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, I JUST WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION TO THE FACT IF WE LOOK AT CITY GO ONE CITY AND I IT WAS AN F AND AFTER SPEAKING I ME, I JUST MOVED IT TO G TO DRAW ATTENTION TO IT LIKE IT CREATED IT.
THE GOAL IS EXPAND INSTALLATION OF CHARGING STATIONS AND WE SHOULD SAY ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS STARTING AT CITY HALL AND USE SOLAR CANOPIES FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING. UM, SO THIS IS THERE STILL I JUST WANT TO MENTION A FEW TIMES, PULL THAT PART OUT AND REPLACING THE CITY OWNED VEHICLES WITH EVS IS CAN STAND ALONE, SEPARATE FROM PLANNING FOR INSTALLATION AND MAKE STRONG WORDING OVER THAT.
THAT POINT LEAD THE WAY FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA TO THE MOST ACCESSIBLE POINT FOR EVS IS TO LIVE IN PALM BAY. OK, SO I'M GOING TO WORKSHOP WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING HERE.
SO. WE'D HAVE F SO IF EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT GOAL, ONE CITY F WOULD BE REPLACE AGING CITY OWNED VEHICLES WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES, ELECTRIC ALTERNATIVE VEHICLES, PERIOD, THEN WE'D HAVE ANOTHER ONE G AND WE COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE.
COMMIT TO BEING A LEADER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
I BEGINNING THE INSTALLATION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AT CITY HALL IN ALL MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS AND UTILIZING SOLAR CANOPIES FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING.
AND PARK. IT'S BEING MEANT TO BEING LATE, I'M OPEN RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU BEING A LEADER IN, UH, ALL MY COWORKERS LOVE WHEN I SPEAK AND TYPE AT THE SAME TIME.
I CAN'T RING LEADER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
UH, I WANT TO ASK FOR EVERYONE'S FORGIVENESS FOR THAT, UM.
SO COMMIT TO BEING A LEADER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHAT EXACTLY LIKE.
HELP ME WORD THAT WHAT COMES NEXT? INSTALLATION OF CITY CHARGING STATIONS.
AND INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY OF SOLAR CANOPIES.
IN A PIECE FOR ELECTRICITY, BATTERY CHARGING, I THINK, DO YOU WANT TO? BEING A LEADER BY THE INSTALLATION OF SOLAR STATIONS.
WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT LIKE THE CITY AND GIVE EXAMPLES LIKE BOEING.
YEAH, YES, THAT'S RIGHT, ALL THAT THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE AT ALL, PARKS AND MUNICIPALITIES COMMIT TO BEING LEADER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THE INSTALLATION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE
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CHARGING STATIONS AT ALL CITY BUILDINGS AND PARKS.OR. RENEWABLE ENERGY FOR ELECTRIC CHARGING.
A LITTLE WORDY, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY BRIEFLY SHARE WITH THE BOARD AS MR. SNYDER TYPES THAT UP FOR US, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE AS BOARD MEMBERS PERHAPS SPEAK TO WHETHER IT'S COUNCIL MEMBERS ON IT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS OR WHEN WE'RE PRESENTING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I WANT TO EMPOWER EVERYBODY WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THIS SERVICE AWAY FOR FREE.
IF WE PUT THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE IN, THE CITY WOULD BE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO TO ADD TO THE PRICING STRUCTURE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PARTNER WITH A CHARGING NETWORK WHO'S GOING TO CHARGE TO FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, IF YOU WILL, OF THE FUEL, THE POWER.
AND I'M NOT EXPRESSLY AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THE CITY RECOUPING SOME OF THEIR COSTS WITHIN THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARILY A MONEY MAKING A REVENUE STREAM THAT'S GOING TO TURN A PROFIT FOR THE CITY.
BUT AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, ANY HESITATIONS THAT WE MIGHT SEE FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ANYONE WITHIN THE CITY STAFF AS FAR AS THE COSTS ASSOCIATED IN PERPETUITY, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT'S GOING TO COST SO MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PUT THESE CHARGERS UP.
AND THEN OUR UTILITY BILLS AT EACH PARK AND MUNICIPAL BUILDING ARE GOING TO GO UP IF EVERYONE'S STILL IN OUR FREJUS.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE.
YOU KNOW, THINK LIKE GAS STATIONS DON'T GIVE GAS AWAY FOR FREE.
SO THE CONSUMERS ARE VERY UNDERSTANDING OF THE FACT THAT THEY MAY PAY A FEW CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR AND THOSE FEW CENTS WILL WILL ADD UP TO OFFSET SOME COST.
SO JUST TO EMPOWER EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE.
OK, DID DID YOU FINISH EVERYTHING YOU HAD FOR GO TO CITY? GET BACK ON TRACK. YES, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE GOAL TO CITY ON THE OLD DOCUMENT AND THEN WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO ADDRESS IT WHEN WE GOT HERE.
SO THE GOAL, IT READ CONCENTRATE DEVELOPMENT AND COMPACT HUMAN SCALED WALKABLE CENTERS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CONNECT TO PUBLIC TRANSIT FOR DIVERSE USES AND SERVICES.
MY PROPOSITION WOULD BE THAT WE CARRY THAT OVER EITHER IN ITS STATE OR IF ANYBODY HAS ANY MODIFICATIONS INTO INTO THIS GOAL, BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY FITS THE GOAL AS WRITTEN IN THIS AS WE'RE REFERRING TO THE ZIGGLER DOCUMENT.
AND THANK YOU, BECAUSE I WAS PRETTY CONFUSED, UH, ASKING YOU TO TRANSFER THAT TO THAT OBJECTIVE UNDER THIS, OK? RIGHT. WE CARE, DO WE, SO ON AND ON TOP, AS THEY DO ON, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE CARE.
I WAS GOING TO ADD IT TO THE BOTTOM BECAUSE OF EASIER.
IS IT, PHILIP, I JUST WANT TO EXPAND WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WHERE YOU WERE PUTTING CHARGING STATIONS AT THE PARKS IN THE THE CITY CITY AREA, CITY HALL AND STUFF, WOULD YOU ADD PUBLIC PARKING SPACES AND ANY PUBLICLY USED? OH, PLACES I'M TRYING TO THINK SO.
YOU DON'T MISS ANY MUNICIPALLY OWNED OR PUBLIC OR PRIVATE OWNED.
WELL, IT CAN'T BE PRIVATE OWNED UNDER THE CITY, BUT ANYTHING THE CITY.
YOU HAVE PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE CITY.
ALL CITY BUILDINGS AND PARKS, I MAY NOT BE EDUCATED ENOUGH, IS THERE IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S MISSED IN THAT PHRASE, ALL CITY BUILDINGS AND PARKS? ARCHEAN. SO AREN'T THERE ISN'T THERE CITY PARKING SOMEWHERE? I THINK THEIR CITY PARKING OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH A BUILDING. I DON'T.
I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK OF ONE IF THERE IS, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, MISS CONNOLLY, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE EXAMPLE THAT COMES IN MY HEAD IS WHEN YOU GO TO DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE, THERE'S THERE'S PUBLIC PARKING LOT, ACTUALLY.
THEY TOOK A PUBLIC PARKING LOT AND JUST ERECTED A HOTEL ON IT.
RIGHT. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE TO MISS KELLNER.
IS THERE ANY SUCH THING IN WITHIN OUR CITY OF BOMBAY? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT I GIVE IT TO YOU.
AND ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THINK OF THERE IS NOW, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I WOULD
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RECOMMEND PLANNING FOR BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS IF YOU PARK AND RIDE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE ABOVE. BUT JUST I MEAN, I THINK CITY FACILITIES AND OPEN SPACES WOULD CAPTURE THAT. PERHAPS, MR. SNYDER, IF YOU JUST ADD FACILITIES, YOU HAVE MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, YOU HAVE PARKS JUST IN BETWEEN MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, FACILITIES AND PARKS, AND THAT WILL ENCOMPASS THAT.WANT TO CHANGE THE GOAL? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND FOR GOLD, TOO, IS DESIGN AND OR PLAN FOR A MULTI-MODAL ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO MEET SYSTEMS, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL CITIZENS ARE SAFE AND EFFICIENT TRAVEL.
WANT TO KEEP PUTTING IN ALL CITIZENS ACCESS BY ALL CITIZENS.
MUCH OR I THINK THAT MAKES IT LESS WORDY AND A LITTLE MORE LIKE.
WHAT DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? IT'S ONE SECOND, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT NOTE EFFECTIVELY, UM.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS REALLY WELL DONE, S.
YEAH. OK, GO TO BUSINESS SECTION.
I DID NOT HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THAT SECTION EITHER.
IT WAS. WELL, WRITTEN AS I WAS READING IT.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS EITHER, BUT I DO, AS MR. CONNELLY MENTIONED EARLIER, TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY IS MY MY PASSION WITHIN WITHIN THIS PLAN. SO I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT POINT F FOR THIS BOARD AND EMPOWER YOU WITH SOME MORE KNOWLEDGE. AS FAR AS I ANTICIPATE, THE INCREASING USE OF AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS AND LIMITATIONS OF THE VEHICLES, FOR INSTANCE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND WHEN, YOU KNOW, IF MET WITH, YOU KNOW, HEY, THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE OR HEY, THAT'S SO FAR OFF, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS NOT FAR OFF AT ALL IN IN I WOULD CALL IT A FIVE YEAR PLAN. WE WILL BE MOVING GOODS AUTONOMOUSLY AND WE WILL MOST LIKELY BE MOVING PEOPLE AUTONOMOUSLY AS WELL.
NOW, AS FAR AS CONSUMERS OWNING AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE JETSONS, IF YOU WILL.
BUT I DON'T WANT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES TO BE ALLOWED TO BE TAKEN ALL THE WAY TO TO THE JETSONS ERA. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES WILL BE USED TO MOVE GOODS WITHIN A HANDFUL OF YEARS.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING THESE ACCOMMODATIONS, WHEN WE'RE CREATING PARKING LOTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I THINK IT'S IT'S GOOD TO KEEP IN BUSINESS.
I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT WE COME BACK AND INSERTED IN CITY, BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPOWER THE BOARD WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT IT REALLY IS APPLICABLE IN ALL IN ALL FASHIONS.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE EVOLVE AND WE, YOU KNOW, MOVE PAST SUBMITTING THIS ACTION PLAN AND WE WORK ON OUR EXPANSION AND AND WE WORK ON MORE ACTIONABLE ITEMS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BOARD WORK DIRECTLY WITH, WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THINGS OF THE SORT TO HELP PEOPLE, BUSINESS OWNERS, IF YOU WILL, PLAN FOR THAT WHEN WHEN YOU KNOW, WHEN THEIR PLANS COME IN AND THEY HAVE THEIR RIGHT WAYS TO THE ROAD AND SO ON.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ENTERTAIN SETTING EVERYTHING UP SO THAT IN THIS NOT SO LONG FUTURE, WHEN THESE VEHICLES DO SHOW UP, THERE'S NOT A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
THAT IS SOMETHING ALSO THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN OUR IN OUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE GO ALONG.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO FURTHER EXPAND UPON IN THIS DOCUMENT.
BUT I DO WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TALK MORE ABOUT IT IN OUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
SO I HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED OFFICIAL WITH THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT OR KIND OF WHAT IT WHERE IT IS HOUSED OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT WHOEVER IS IN POSSESSION OF THAT, IF YOU COULD GET A A MEMBER OLSZEWSKI WORKSHOP ON AUTONOMOUS ON THERE, WE WILL TALK.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS GELLNER.
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ALL RIGHT, SUSAN. ALL TO EDDIE.AND. YOUR DOCUMENT DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON BUSINESS.
SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT RANDALL'S SAYING.
THEY'RE. THOSE BEGINNING STEPS.
I MEAN, IF. MAY, MADAM CHAIR, TO TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO YOU MISTAKENLY, I THINK THAT F DOES A FAIRLY DECENT JOB OF ADDRESSING THAT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PORTION THAT I THINK HELPS CONSIDER NEEDED ACCOMMODATIONS, PARTICULARLY IN PARKING LOTS AND LOADING DOCKS, FOR INSTANCE, CLEAR SIGHT LINES AND DISTINCT MARKINGS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT DIRECTIONALLY, YOU KNOW, DOES THE JOB.
MY PERSONAL OPINION. AND THAT SOMETHING ABOUT LET ME THROW THIS OUT AND EVERYBODY JUST YAY OR NAY, BUT CITY OFFER INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES DEVELOP.
DEVELOPING MANUFACTURING, UTILIZING MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION METHODS AND ALTERNATIVE.
I MEAN, I'M KIND OF A YEAH, BUT BUT I THINK THEY WOULD GO INTO CITY GOALS, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE DOING.
YEAH, BUT YEAH. I MEAN, I'D LOVE FOR US TO ENCOURAGE.
AND INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES IN GENERAL THAT ARE BEING SUSTAINABLE AND HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT. IN THE EDUCATION PORTION, WE DO DISCUSS THAT, UM.
AND WE EVEN TALK ABOUT PROMOTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOING SOME OF THESE SUSTAINABLE THINGS IN THESE TRANSPORTATION BASED, SUSTAINABLE, UH, THINGS, WE ALL DO THAT IF THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS THAT IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF ENCOURAGING CARPOOLING, LIKE THEY COULD BE FEATURED ON THAT. I'M.
THE OTHER THING, AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO.
OR THINGS GET US IT, YOUR FOCUS.
START NOW OR LATER, AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE USE OF THE DRONES AND THINGS THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALL CONCERNED WITH ROADS, BUT WITH ROADS.
WAS. OVERSIGHT BILL WHITE AND.
MANAGER, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WHICH I'M MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON, TRANSPORTATION ON THE GROUND, THINGS THAT HAVE WHEELS, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AIRSPACE IS FEDERALLY REGULATED.
SO IF YOU HAVE A DRONE OF A PARTICULAR SIZE, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT'S CAPABLE OF MOVING GOODS, YOU NEED TO REGISTER IT WITH THE FAA AND IT NEEDS TO BE TREATED LIKE AN AIRPLANE WOULD. I DON'T KNOW, AS FAR AS SHORT TERM, WHAT WE COULD RECOMMEND TO THE CITY TO MONITOR USED THE WORD REGULATE, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT WORD, THE ACTIVITY IN THE SKY WITHOUT COMING ACROSS FAR FETCHED OFFICIAL.
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YOU KNOW, I THINK AS IT STANDS NOW, IT'S STILL IN ITS EARLY PHASES WHERE IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.BUT IT'S SO ABSTRACT RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S HARD FOR ME PERSONALLY TO KIND OF GET MY HANDS AROUND AND AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF HOW TO HANDLE IT, HAVE JUST ADDED IT TO OUR EXPANSION. THANK YOU ALL FOR.
NOT TOO MUCH, I JUST THINK THAT A AND B AND C AND E CAN BE COMBINED.
I JUST THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE REPETITIVE.
A IS DESIGNATED OR CREATE A SAFE, SECURED, COVERED AREA FOR EMPLOYEES, USUALLY NONCOMMITTED VEHICLES. BUT THEN IT'S THE SAME IDEA FOR CAR POOLING.
SO JUST YOU JUST SAY CREATE A SAFE SPACE WHERE THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND THEN DINIS THE SAME KIND OF THING. LETTER SAYS REWARD EMPLOYEES FOR CARPOOLING AND THEN REWARD EMPLOYEES FOR USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
I'M STILL REALLY HESITANT ON THAT ONE JUST WITH EMPLOYEE LALICH.
ER, THERE REALLY IS A LINE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT AN EMPLOYER SHOULD BE TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS OF UNDERSTANDING THE TRANSPORTATION METHODS THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES USE.
AND B, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GET RID OF THE REWARD LANGUAGE, BUT.
THEY COULD SPONSOR BUS PASSES.
AND THEY CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS SO EMPLOYEES CAN ACCESS THOSE EQUITABLY AND USE THEM AS THEY WANT TO BE COOL.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD STILL GO UNDER BUSINESS IN GOAL ONE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, REDUCING TRAFFIC, UM, WOULD YOU JUST BE, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZING, UH, WE HAVE A GOAL LIKE THAT, DON'T WE? BUT. EMPOWER EMPLOYEES TO SEEK OUT WAYS TO REDUCE TRAFFIC, SUCH AS INCREASING USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THROUGH SPONSORING BUS PASSES KAMA.
I WOULD PREFER TO TAKE OUT, UM, THE ANY, UM.
PERSONALLY, BUT IF WE LEAVE THEM IN IT, I THINK WE SHOULD COMBINE THEM, SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE BOARD'S THOUGHTS ON THAT BEFORE I MAKE ANY CHANGES.
DESCRIBE. BE ABLE TO RESPOND ALL AT ONCE, YOUR PROPOSITION AS WE COMBINE AND B AND WE ELIMINATE THE ANY CORRECT OR IF WE KEEP THE NEED TO COMBINE THEM, BUT PREFERABLY DELETE THEM. I'M GOING TO CONCUR WITH THE FORMER.
I'D LIKE TO SEE US COMBINE A AND B AND ELIMINATE ANY OF THIS DONE.
I MEAN, PLEASE KEEP THE BUS PASS.
UM, YEAH, YEAH, AND INCORPORATE IT INTO GOAL ONE BUSINESS.
OK, SUSAN, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE.
AND THOSE ARE ALL OF MY THOUGHTS, GO TO COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES, ARTHUR C.
I DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THAT ONE EITHER.
GIVE ME AN INITIAL, BROUSE, BECAUSE I WAS AMAZED THAT MY PENDANTS STROKE ANYTHING ON IT, BUT I CONCUR WITH YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
IT'S TO THE POINT. AND WHAT I LIKED MOST ABOUT, PARTICULARLY IN THIS SECTION BEING THIS WAY, IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE AS A BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BREAK THESE GOALS OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO START TO BRAINSTORM ON HOW WE CAN COME TO THE COMMUNITY AND CHASE THOSE. SO THE MORE SUCCINCT THEY ARE, SUCH AS THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT, THE BETTER.
LOOK AT THAT. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON, GOAL THREE.
CITY OBJECTIVES A THROUGH H MY.
I ONLY HAVE ONE LITTLE EDIT ON GREENSPACE ON THE VERY FIRST A TAKE THE S OFF OF GREEN.
UM, AND THEN ON LETTER EIGHT OR LETTER G WORK WITH COUNTY AND STATE TO SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION OF FREIGHT BY TRAIN, I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS FEASIBLE OR WITHIN THE CITY'S SCOPE.
THE IDEA OF BEING A. TALKING ABOUT MOVING FREIGHT OVER FEDERAL HIGHWAYS, THAT WOULD BE AN F.D.A. JURISDICTION, TRAINS AND YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT THE RAIL SYSTEMS ARE NOT
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SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN, PROBABLY SHORT OF MAYBE OFFERING A RESOLUTION FOR SOME FORM OF TRANSPORTATION OR TRANSPORT.BUT THAT IS NOT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WITHIN OUR DOMAIN.
IT'S LIKE THE AIRWAYS OF A MOVEMENT OF FREIGHT ACROSS.
I MEAN, NOW IS THE SUGGESTION TO REMOVE THIS I.
YES, UNLESS THE CITY HAS SOME SORT OF WE DON'T HAVE LEVERAGE IN THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO.
I MEAN, WE DON'T BEYOND A RAIL COMING THROUGH THE CITY LIMITS AND HAVING TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT, AS WE'RE SEEING NOW WITH RIGHT LINE.
THE QUESTION I GUESS I WOULD POSE TO THE BOARD IS, HOW WOULD YOU INCENTIVIZE THAT? WHAT TYPE OF. LEVERAGE, WOULD YOU HAVE TO CHANGE WHAT A PRIVATELY HELD COMPANY DOES TO MOVE FREIGHT? AND I DON'T SEE ANY IF THERE IS SOME THAT I'M MISSING, THEN I'D BE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT IN. OTHERWISE I THINK IT SHOULD BE DELETED.
THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. THE BOARD'S DECISION, JUST OBSERVATION.
EXPAND ON IT BRIEFLY, IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR.
WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY.
WE HAVE THE BRIGHT LINE GOING TO RUN THROUGH OUR CITY.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY ACCESS POINTS, I CAN ONLY THINK OF ONE, AND APPARENTLY THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE WHERE WE COULD ENCOURAGE A BUSINESS TO SET UP SHOP AT THIS SITE SO THAT YOU CAN EASILY MOVE YOUR GOODS OUT OF OUR CITY AND ONWARD AND UPWARD TO WHEREVER THE HECK THEY NEED TO GO.
I CAN'T THINK EXPRESSLY OF A PARTICULAR PLOT OF LAND THAT EXISTS THAT WE COULD ENCOURAGE SOMEONE TO TO SET UP SHOP TO TO EXPAND ON THE USE OF FREIGHT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M IN SUPPORT OF ELIMINATING IT, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANT TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD TO TO SHAKE ANYTHING LOOSE FROM ANYBODY ELSE THAT THAT MAY KNOW OF OF A SITUATION THAT THAT WE COULD PURSUE SUCH A THING.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT ELIMINATING THAT GOAL, THAT DOUBLING.
THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAD.
I WOULD LIKE TO DIFFER BECAUSE ONE OF MY PROPOSITIONS EARLIER WAS THAT WE WAIT UNTIL WE GOT TO GO THROUGH HERE WHAT MR. CONNELLY HAD IN WANTING TO KIND OF REWORD IT.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO SHARE TOO MANY COMMENTS ON THIS IF WE END UP REWORKING THE WHOLE THING AND THEN WE GO A WHOLE DIFFERENT ROUTE.
SO I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO MISS CONNELLY AND GIVE HER THE TIME TO EXPLAIN KIND OF WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM WITH WITH THESE NOTES ON GOAL THREE.
Q BUT I WANT TO DO IS AGAINST IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND LEAVE OUT THE SPECIFICS, A GLOBAL, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, I LIKE WORDS, I DO NOT LIKE WORDS THAT I REDUCE NEGATIVE AND THINGS I ALWAYS LIKE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS RECOMMENDING MAXIMIZE AWARD, MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION. EDDIE.
WELL, WHAT I SAID, MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND.
UM, I'D LIKE TO PUT IT RIGHT THERE.
CHANGES FROM REDUCE NEGATIVE IMPACTS, TESTING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
ONCE AGAIN, IS IT MAXIMIZE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE? I MEAN, MADAM CHAIR, UM, ALTHOUGH I DO GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND AND CAN GET BEHIND GENERALLY TRYING TO AVOID WORDS THAT THAT.
YOU KNOW, CAN CAN SOUND LIKE DOWNERS, RIGHT, AND I GET THAT, AND SO I'M OK WITH REWARDING THIS. I DON'T PARTICULARLY THINK THIS REWORDING MAXIMUM USEFUL IN TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE REALLY GETS IT WHAT THIS GOAL IS AND IF I'M BEING REALLY HONEST, I ACTUALLY I MEAN, THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF EXISTING.
LIKE, I THINK I THINK I LIKE THE GOAL.
I UNDERSTAND GENERALLY WANTING TO AVOID WORDS THAT HAVE NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS WITH THEM.
AND SO, AGAIN, I'M OPEN TO OTHER WORDINGS, BUT I WANT I BELIEVE THE GOAL SHOULD SAY WHAT
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THIS ONE ESSENTIALLY SAYS. RIGHT.WHICH IS WE ARE GOING TO REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
AND SO IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD SPIN THAT, I AGREE.
I JUST DON'T THINK THIS PARTICULAR WORDING IS IT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM THE OLD PLAN, YOUR SUGGESTION SUGGESTED REALLY GETS AT THAT.
AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND I FEEL LIKE IT KIND OF CHANGES THE GOAL.
AND THEN I DON'T EVEN THINK THE OBJECTIVES WERE NECESSARILY ALIGNED WITH THAT, SO, UM.
AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR ON IT, BUT I, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE BRAINSTORM SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF WE'RE ALL IN THAT PAGE.
I THINK FOR ME, THERE JUST BE A LITTLE CONFUSING, BECAUSE OUR FIRST ONE IS INVEST IN SMART TECHNOLOGY AND UNDERSTAND AND BETTER MANAGE TRAFFIC AND TO EXPAND SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO.
IT WAS LIKE THAT KIND OF ALREADY COVERS.
OUR FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, WHILE THIS GOAL IS REALLY SAYING, HEY, WE WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AND WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN.
I APOLOGIZE, WE HAD ADDED THAT EARLIER.
YEAH. WHERE MEMBERS MAY OFFER JUST AN OBSERVATION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, IF I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO SEE.
D AND F, I'M JUST ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER WHERE YOUR LEVERAGE OR JURISDICTION IS WITH REGARD TO THOSE PARTICULAR GOALS OR OBJECTIVES.
WE, OF COURSE, HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR COUNTY, BUT HOW WOULD WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO DISCOURAGE THEIR TRANSPORTATION HABITS? THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE WITH REGARD TO D AND F DNF BOTH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY, A VERY STRONG PART OF OUR ECONOMY.
AND WE'RE SAYING HOW WOULD WE ENCOURAGE FREIGHT VEHICLES NOT TO TRAVEL DURING PEAK TRAVEL TIMES? WHAT WOULD BE OUR LEVERAGE OR OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT? YOU'RE ASKING THAT THEY REDESIGN THEIR DELIVERY AND TRANSIT SYSTEMS NOT TO TRAVEL FROM NINE TO FIVE. SO I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER HOW THAT MIGHT BE ACCOMPLISHED IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THIS DOCUMENT.
I THINK THAT ACTUALLY KIND OF EVEN SEGUES INTO SOME OF MY CONCERNS WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE, UM.
I THINK THERE IS A LARGE FOCUS ON FREIGHT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AS AS MISS IS KIND OF INDICATED, A LOT OF THE FREIGHT TRAFFIC DOES NOT ORIGINATE IN BAY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M UNSURE IF THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING FEASIBLE, SO, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE WHERE WE WE TAKE THESE.
UM, AN F AND MOVE THEM DOWN TO BUSINESS GOALS AND WE SAY SOMETHING LIKE ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, OR BUSINESSES SHOULD INVESTIGATE.
RIGHT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TRYING TO ENCOURAGE AN INTRINSIC MOTIVATION, RIGHT.
WE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROBABLY FROM OUR VANTAGE AS THE CITY, INCENTIVIZE THEM TO NOT DO ANYTHING. BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE MANY OF OUR GOALS, FRANKLY.
RIGHT. ENCOURAGE A SENSE OF INTRINSIC MOTIVATION TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THESE, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT. UM, AND SO I THINK THAT WE CAN MAYBE MOVE SOME OF THESE TO THAT WE KEEP MOVING THEM TO BUSINESS AND JUST SIMPLY SAY, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO INVESTIGATE THE THE IMPACT.
UM. I THINK THAT'S, UH, A LOT OF MY CONCERN.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN EVEN EAT LIKE THE SALMON NEED FOR HIGHWAY ADJACENT, LONG HAUL OR TRUCK STOPS, IT WAS OR WOULDN'T FALL UNDER POMPEY'S PURVIEW.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM ISN'T UNDER ITS PURVIEW.
I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TAKE DISCOURAGE IDLING OF FREIGHT VEHICLES, WE COULD SAY WITHIN CITY LIMITS, YOU KNOW.
I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING, SOMETHING WE COULD DO THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW,
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ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS WHO DRIVE TRUCKS AND WHO DO STOP AT OUR GAS STATIONS AND OTHER US LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO EAT.BUT. I'M REALLY NOT SURE THAT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE USE OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND SO FOR ME, I WOULD RATHER WALK AWAY WITH JUST A FEW SUCCINCT OBJECTIVES THAT WE REALLY COULD TARGET AND MAKE AN IMPACT ON AND TO KEEP OUR FOCUS SO, SO BROAD.
AND SO, IF I MIGHT ADD, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT COMMERCE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, VIRTUALLY EVERY GROCERY STORE, EVERY LARGE RETAILER RECEIVES PROBABLY TWO TO THREE SHIPMENTS BY TRACTOR TRAILER EACH WEEK.
THAT'S THE COMMODITIES THAT WE ALL RELY UPON.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO ALTER THOSE HABITS IS GOING TO ALTER OTHER THINGS AS WELL. AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
I OFFER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS YOU AS YOU DRAFT THE SECTION.
IF I MAY WEIGH IN, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH MR. SCHNEIDER'S POINTS AND THE POINTS BROUGHT UP BY MISS CALLENDAR.
SO TO SUMMARIZE MY THOUGHTS BEFORE I EVEN SAY I'M I'M IN SUPPORT OF US, KIND OF TURNING AWAY FROM FROM THIS DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADING IN THE SECTION.
BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, AS YOU KNOW, AS A GOOD SUMMARY OF OUR CURRENT COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY OUR MAYOR, YOU MIGHT RESPOND TO MR. SNYDER IN THE FACT THAT FREIGHT ISN'T ORIGINATING IN OUR CITY WITH A NOT YET.
YEAH, PALM BEACH IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
SO I'M GOING TO THROW OUT THE WORD EXPANSION THAT WE WE REMAIN COGNIZANT AND IN FUTURE ITERATIONS AS WE CAN REALLY HONE IN ON WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT, THAT WE DO TALK ABOUT OUR PREFERENCES. YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST THROW OUT A COMPLETELY RANDOM EXAMPLE THAT I DON'T THINK IS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF AMAZON DECIDES THAT FORT PIERCE ISN'T QUITE CLOSE ENOUGH FROM A DISTRIBUTION PERSPECTIVE AND WANTS TO PUT A DISTRIBUTION, YOU KNOW, SITUATION WITHIN OUR CITY.
I PERSONALLY THINK THE BEST PLACE WOULD BE IN THE WESTERN BOUNDS OF THE CITY.
SO IF THEY'RE TO COME IN, WE WOULD ASK THEM TO USE THE ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND NOT TO COME ALL THE WAY DOWN MALABAR ROAD OR NEANDER THEIR WAY FROM THE SOUTH THROUGH THE BAYSIDE AREA.
THOSE WOULD BE RESPECTFUL REQUESTS UNLESS WE HAVE IN POINT D, PARTICULARLY A SITUATION WHERE WE AREN'T ASKING THEM TO NOT USE SECONDARY ROADWAYS.
WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE YOU GET OFF THE HIGHWAY AND YOU'RE ON A SOMEWHAT MAIN ROAD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NAVIGATION TAKES YOU ON A ROAD THAT'S MUCH EASIER AND YOU SEE THE NEW TRUCKS OVER SO MUCH WEIGHT SIGN AND SO ON.
SO IF ANY OTHER POINTS SHOULD STAY, I WOULD SAY D BUT EVEN THAT, I THINK WE MIGHT BE GETTING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE WEEDS AND TAKING AWAY FROM IN PARTICULAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR ROADS.
SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MISS ZIEGLER.
BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF ENTER THIS DOCUMENT AS BROAD AS THE WORD OF THE WHOLE OF THE BOARD AS A WHOLE.
I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LEAVE THIS GOLD THREE WITH FOCUSING IN ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTS TO ENHANCE IT AND TO MAKE IT MORE SUSTAINABLE, JUST TO USE POINTS A AND B AS EXAMPLES OF THAT.
SO MAYBE FOR FUTURE THOUGHT, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT THE CITY CAN SUGGEST FOR FOR FREIGHT BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS COMING.
MR. SNYDER, THAT'S FOR SURE, BECAUSE WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, IN THE IN THE SCOPE OF THIS GOAL, THREE, I WOULD AGREE WITH WITH GETTING THIS OUT AND FOCUSING IN MORE ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE SUSTAINABLE MOVING FORWARD.
AND I WILL, WHILE I'M SPEAKING, REEMPHASIZE MY SUPPORT FOR THE WORD REDUCE HERE, BECAUSE IT IS THE FIRST OF OUR THREE OUR WORDS.
RIGHT. WHAT IT'S REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS BOARD A FEW OTHER TIMES. SO EVEN THOUGH IT IS NEGATIVE AND HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION, I SHOULD SAY, AND THE NEXT WORD IS NEGATIVE.
WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND WE HAVE TO SHINE LIGHT ON THINGS SO WE'RE NOT BEING NEGATIVE. WE'RE SHINING LIGHT.
WE'RE SHINING LIGHT ON THE FACT THAT THERE'S AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE ROADWAYS THAT EXIST TO TO MAKE THEM BETTER.
I FEEL A CONSENSUS OF SORTS COMING ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE CDF.
AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, I PERSONALLY SUPPORT THAT.
I SUPPORT THAT ALSO, IT SOUNDS LIKE NO ONE HAS ADDRESSED EACH AND SO THAT.
FOR THE SAKE OF THIS VERY AMATEUR SCRIBE, COULD WE JUST DO A CAN I CAN I WALK US THROUGH A RECAP OF EACH OBJECTIVE JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M VERY CLEAR AND WHAT'S STAYING OR WHAT'S NOT THAT WAY? THERE'S NO CONFUSION.
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WELL, SUSAN, GO FOR I'M SORRY.AND I WANT TO BEFORE WE DO AWAY WITH.
I WANTED TO PULL OUT THAT WE MAY WANT TO KEEP IN ONE IS.
UM. ENERGY EFFICIENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
VERY GOOD POINT, WHAT WE CAN DO IS THAT IN ENERGY EFFICIENT VEHICLES.
AND YOU SAID ENHANCE AND CREATE MORE SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE TRUCKING AND. THAT IS SOMETHING ENHANCE THE EIGHT MORE.
HIGH CAPACITY CHARGING STATIONS.
WAIT. SO, UM, CAN I JUST ASK JUST MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
IT SOUNDS LIKE ALL OF US WANT TO KEEP A.
IT SOUNDS LIKE ALL OF US WANT TO KEEP.
IT APPEARS THAT WE WANT TO ELIMINATE C.
AS A SIDE NOTE TO THE SECOND HALF OF C IS INCLUDED IN OUR EDUCATION SECTION.
I MEAN, GO AHEAD AND YOU HAVE.
SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO ELIMINATE D.
UM. I THINK WE ALSO WANT TO ELIMINATE.
YEAH, I DO. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE AND WE HAVEN'T SAID IT EXACTLY THAT WAY, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO TALK ABOUT.
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE CITY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO IS WE COULD MOVE THIS TO BE BUSINESSES AND WE COULD SAY, UM, RESEARCH AND ANTICIPATE THE NEED FOR, UH, HIGH CAPACITY CHARGING STATIONS FOR BUSINESS VEHICLES.
THE WORDS BEGIN IN. I THINK THAT WOULD FOLLOW CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, EVERYONE, I THINK THAT WOULD FALL UNDER BUSINESS, BUT GO ONE.
I CAPACITY ARE ONE IS OK, BECAUSE GOAL ONE IS WHERE WE ALSO HAD THE CITY INSTALLING CHARGING STATIONS AND IT WOULD FOLLOW ALONG THAT PATTERN OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE IN GOAL ONE BUSINESS WE COULD HAVE BEGAN INSTALLING.
I THINK WE INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT ALREADY DOING.
IT'S GOING TO READ OVER. UM, WE DID SAY IN GOAL ONE BUSINESS, EXAMINE POTENTIAL FOR SOLAR POWERED SYSTEMS, FOR CHARGING OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON PRIVATE OR PUBLIC NETWORK, UM, ANTICIPATE GREATER INTEREST IN USE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A POINT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN.
I OUT, SUSAN, WOULD YOU BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT ONE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON THE SAME PAGE? THE NEW TERM FOR ME, I, I KNOW ABOUT HYBRIDS CHARGING.
HE THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING.
NOT NECESSARILY SO THEY'RE SO NOT ALL CHARGING STATIONS ARE MADE IT EQUAL, UM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CHARGES.
GENERALLY THE ACRONYMS YOU GUYS WILL HEAR WILL BE LIKE LEVEL ONE, LEVEL TWO, LEVEL THREE CHARGING, WHICH IS REALLY DECEPTIVE.
JUST HEADS UP BECAUSE LEVEL THREE.
IS REALLY BROAD, LIKE REALLY, REALLY BROAD, SO YOU COULD BE IN LOVE WITH RECHARGER AND COULD STILL CHARGE REALLY SLOW.
ANYWAY, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
UM, AND SO REALLY, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING TECHNICALLY CALLED HIGH CAPACITY CHARGING STATIONS. TECHNICALLY, THEY BE CALLED LEVEL THREE CHARGING STATIONS.
UM, BUT I SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S NEEDED.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A DECISION, FOR EXAMPLE, STAFF WOULD MAKE WHEN CHOOSING THE RIGHT CHARGER FOR OR IT'S A DECISION THE BUSINESS WOULD MAKE WHEN CHOOSING THE RIGHT THING.
AT. UM, SO THEN LOOKING AT AAFP ENCOURAGE VEHICLES TO TRAVEL DURING OFF AGAIN, WE'RE IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING F.
AND THEN I THINK WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF LEAVING H.
AND THAT WOULD LEAVE US WITH THREE GOALS HERE AND IT WOULD BE A B KOLLWITZ, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'LL CHANGE IT TO SEE LATER. I HAD TO DRAG THAT OUT AS JUST TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR.
I'M SURE I AGREE WITH ALL THAT ABC, IT GOES BACK TO BEING SINKED, IT GIVES CITY WHICH
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WERE LOOSELY INTERPRETING AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK OF COUNSEL TO PURSUE.IT GETS TO THE POINT, MISS CONNALLY, IF I IF I MAY SHARE WITH YOU AT THE CURRENT TIME, THE VEHICLES THAT ARE MOVING OUR GOODS ARE NOT ELECTRIFIED, BUT THAT DEFINITELY IS COMING IN THE FUTURE. SO, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MISS ZIEGLER, BUT I THINK THE DIRECTION SHE WAS HEADING WAS JUST KIND OF ANTICIPATING THAT THERE'S SOME MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE ELECTRIFYING SEMIS, THINGS OF THE SORT.
THERE'S ALSO MORE LAST MILE VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ELECTRIFIED.
I HAPPEN TO KNOW THE INTIMATE DETAILS OF ONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT'S IT'S IT'S YET TO COME. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, NOT NECESSARILY OF AN EXPANSION, BUT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YEAH, WE WILL TALK ABOUT.
AND MR. SNYDER WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN DESCRIBING LEVEL ONE, TWO AND THREE CHARGES.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE OF HOW MANY LEVELED THREE CHARGES THERE ARE IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA, THERE'S ONE IN SOUTHERN BREVARD COUNTY, ONE.
AND ITS LOCATION IS QUITE IRONIC IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WANT TO WORK ON. WITH THAT BEING SAID TO MR. SNYDER'S PREVIOUS POINT, I DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TALKING ABOUT THAT AND GOAL ONE AND BRINGING THAT UP.
AND AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR WORK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DEFINITELY CHASE AFTER THAT.
BUT JUST JUST TO HELP YOU EXPAND YOUR KNOWLEDGE, AS YOU WERE YOU WERE INQUIRING ABOUT.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. I'M GOING DID I HAVE ONE MORE THING? AND THAT IS I HAD THOUGHT OF PHASE IN RESURFACING ROADWAYS AND PARKING AREAS WITH PERMEABLE SURFACE MATERIALS FOR RAINWATER INFILTRATION AND CAPTURING STORMWATER AND RAIN GARDENS. NOW, THAT WAS SOMEWHERE.
THAT'S IN THE NEXT SECTION THAT WILL BE GOING OVER AND BUSINESS THE BUSINESS.
LET'S GO. ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NOT THE CITY, THEN, THAT'S NOT THAT A CITY.
ROADWAYS, IT'S NOT ROADWAYS, IT'S PARKING AREAS, THEY CAN BE PERMEABLE FOR RAIN MODEL INFILTRATION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
ARE YOU ASKING TO ADD A CITY GOAL WHERE WE LOOK AT WAYS? THIS OR MONITOR.
LEAVE AND GO THERE AT THIS POINT.
THE THE ALL THE ROADWAYS ARE UNDER A BOND RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FEASIBLE SUGGESTION. I'M NOT.
PERMEABLE ROADWAYS? NO, I'M NOT SURE THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD.
WHAT WE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXISTS, IF I MAY OFFER YOU I ACTUALLY LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PERMEABLE ROADWAYS, MORE THAN I HAD LEARNED IN PREVIOUS PROJECTS OVER THE PAST WEEK, SO LONG AS SHORT THERE ARE MAINTENANCE CONSIDERATIONS OR OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO DEPLOYING PERMEABLE SERVICES IN YOUR JURISDICTION.
SO PERHAPS THAT GOES TO AN EXPANSION DOCUMENT FOR RESEARCH AT A POINT IN TIME WHERE YOU THINK THAT YOU MAY BE ASKED FOR INFORMATION ABOUT PERMEABLE.
PARKING ROADWAYS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
JUST. ARE YOU KEEPING THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT TONIGHT, ARE YOU? I'M JUST ADDING COMMENTS TO SAY EXPANSION DOCUMENT, AND THEN I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, COME BACK. I'M NICOLE. MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE MOVED OVER, AND IF I MAY INTERRUPT BOARD MEMBERS WITH JUST ONE COMMENT, I DON'T WANT TO BACKTRACK BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE GO TO UNDERCITY.
THAT'S CORRECT. I DON'T WANT TO STRESS IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT AT SOME POINT, OK? I KNOW WHEN WHEN I WORK IN THE COLD TO DO ALL THE FORMATTING STUFF WILL SORT OF MAKE SURE YOU SAW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY LETTERS MISSING IN THIS.
I HAVE NO CHANGES TO THAT SECTION MYSELF.
RANDALL, DO YOU? NO, MA'AM, I DON'T I LIKE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, AS IS.
SUSAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES? ALL RIGHT, ARE YOU SAYING TO KEEP A.
WALKING PAST. REMOVE BIG I DON'T LIKE THE WORD CONSIDER, I WOULD START WITH REDUCED
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PARKING AREA A.WANTED TO IF YOU'D LOOK AT MY DOCUMENT, THEIR GOALS AND COMMUNITY WHERE BUSINESS.
OK, I MEAN. WELL, TO HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, I LIKE TO CHANGE, TO REDUCE IN BE WHEN IT COMES TO A I YOU KNOW, LIKE THE IDEA OF CAPTURING THIS STORM, WATERING GARDENS, BUT KIND OF LIKE WE JUST GRABBED WE JUST LIKE WE JUST COVERED I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND PERMEABLE PAVERS OR A PARKING LOT.
I JUST I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S INFORMATION THERE AND I DON'T HAVE.
AND SO IF THE REST OF THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS AND IS AND IS GOOD WITH IT, I'LL TOTALLY TRUST THE WORD FOR IT.
I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY FEEL VERY IGNORANT.
MADAM CHAIR. YOU EVER BEEN TO NICHOLE'S OR TARGET AND GO? WHY ON EARTH IS HALF THE PARKING LOT IN THE BACK GRAVEL AND IT JUST MAKES MESS.
SO NOW IMAGINE IF THAT WAS ALL PAVED, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE A EXPANSE AMOUNT OF AREA THAT'S ALL PAVED? SO ALL OF THE RAINWATER THAT HITS HAS TO MOVE FROM ONE SECTION OF THE PARKING LOT ALL THE WAY TO THE DRAIN. THOSE ARE THERE.
THE ACT AS A BREAKUP OF SORTS, IF YOU WILL, TO ABSORB SOME OF THE WATER SO THAT IT DOESN'T ALL GO INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM, WHICH, OF COURSE, IS AS GOOD AS WE TRY TO SAVE THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND STUFF.
IF WE CAN GET MORE WATER TO GO INTO THE GROUND WHERE IT IS, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO GO INTO OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM, WHICH THAT'S NOT OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A PERMEABLE PARKING LOT.
NOW, DOES ANYONE PARK ON THAT SECTION OF THE PARKING LOT? NO. BUT TO THAT END, THE ESTABLISHMENT'S NEVER BUSY ENOUGH THAT THEY NEED TO, IF IT EVER IS, THE PARKING IS AVAILABLE.
BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME WHEN IT'S NOT, IT'S ACTING TO SOAK UP THE RAINWATER.
IS IT A MESS? AND DO I AVOID THAT ENTIRE SECTION OF THE PARKING LOT SO I DON'T GET ROCKS, MY TIRES? YES, BUT THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE POINT GOING HERE.
WHILE I'M SPEAKING. I'LL SAY THAT IF WE KEEP THIS, LET'S GET RID OF THE SECOND SENTENCE.
AS FAR AS CAPTURING EXCESS STORMWATER AND RAIN GARDENS, SOMEWHAT REDUNDANT, AS IT'S MENTIONED ELSEWHERE IN THE PLAN.
BUT ALSO THE TWO, I DON'T THINK ARE ONE IN THE SAME.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SET UP YOUR PARKING LOT THIS CERTAIN WAY.
ARE YOU ALSO GOING TO HAVE A RAIN GARDEN IN THE PARKING LOT? I DON'T SEE THAT. AND WE KEEP AND WE ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES WHERE THEY HAVE SPACE DURING GARDENS TO HAVE THEM NOW.
THE IDEA BEING THAT THE LESS PARKING, THE LESS CONCRETE YOUR BUSINESS CREATES, THE BETTER OR THE MORE NATURAL SPACE.
AND JUST HELP ME FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PERMEABLE PAVERS.
I'M IMAGINING AND, UM, BEING THE EDUCATED HUMAN BEING, I AM, I WENT AND GOOGLED IT, AND SO IT DID BRING UP IMAGES.
SO I WAS GOING TO SEEM THERE'S OTHER FORMS THAN.
THE ABSOLUTE WORST IDEA EVER, WHICH IS JUST SO STRONG, SO JUST IT'S LIKE THE WORST OF SO SO I'M JUST GOING TO I THINK WE ALREADY KIND OF MENTIONED IT, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ASK AGAIN IF IT'S OK IF WE GET A PRESENTATION ON PERMEABLE PAVERS AND LIKE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS AS IF IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
IT SOUNDS LIKE EATING BE CHEAPER POTENTIALLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAYS, I JUST WANT TO KNOW MORE.
UM, AND THEN I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES TO CAPTURE STORMWATER.
UM, I DO THINK IT SHOULD BE ITS OWN THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY MORE RELATED TO THEIR GUTTER SYSTEM VERSUS THEIR PARKING LOT.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE IT JUST ANOTHER OBJECTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, TO CAPTURE EXCESS OR WATER, WHATEVER.
SCHNIEDER TO YOUR TO YOUR REQUEST.
I MEAN, WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS THAT AT A POINT IN TIME WHERE IT BECOMES NECESSARY TO LOOK AT THE. THE LATEST AND GREATEST EVOLUTION IN TERMS OF PAVING FROM A STANDPOINT OF ECONOMICS, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF PERMEABILITY.
THE BOARD SAYS, YEAH, PLEASE BRING US SOMEONE WHO CAN TALK KNOWLEDGEABLY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, THE PROS AND CONS OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SURFACES, BECAUSE THAT CHANGES ALL THE TIME AND IT ALSO CHANGES FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE.
WE LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH MATERIALS.
THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE GOING UP IN TERMS OF COST.
SO IT MIGHT BE LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU PUT A PIN IN AND SAY EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE PARKING
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AND ROADWAY SURFACES AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME BECOMES NECESSARY FOR US TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND DOVE INTO THAT.WE CAN GET YOU THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO HELP YOU DO THAT.
SO I REALLY LIKE THAT, SO MAYBE OFFERING US A NEW OBJECTIVE, A WHICH WOULD BE, UM.
AND WE DON'T LIKE THE WORD EXPLORE SO WE CAN CHANGE IT, BUT, UM, EXPLORE, UH.
OR SUSTAINABLE WAYS, UH, SOMEBODY HIT ME UP.
MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY PARKING AREAS.
EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
AND THEN HAVING ANOTHER OBJECTIVE THAT IS, UM, CAPTURE STORMWATER AND CAN WE JUST SAY IN RAIN GARDENS, WE ACTUALLY WILL TAKE THAT BACK BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TRANSPORTATION AND WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE.
YEAH. NOT SURE IF IT WAS MY TIME TO SPEAK, BUT THOSE ARE ALL MY THOUGHTS, OK? THOSE ARE OK. I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT FAR BACK AT THIS POINT.
THERE'S NO SANCTION FOR COMMUNITY.
BUT SUSAN HAS SOME ADDITIONS TO ADD FOR THAT SECTION.
YOU LIKE TO SHARE THOSE WITH US.
SUSAN. AT FIRST, ONE, THROUGH CITIZEN ACTIVISM AND PARTICIPATION WITH CITY AND LOCAL BUSINESSES, CREATE, DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT MULTIMODALITY AND ALTERNATE.
OK. LAID ON CITY BOARDS AND SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS.
ABOUT. MULTIMODALITY, AN ALTERNATIVE STATION, AND THEN MAYBE THIS IS THE ONLY ONE WE NEED, REALLY, IS TO CREATE A CULTURE WHERE EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CHOOSING ALTERNATIVE ENERGY EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION WITH.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT FOR A COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE? WHAT ABOUT YOU EMBRACE A CULTURE INSTEAD OF CREATE? UH, SORRY, UM, FASI WAS CREATE A CULTURE.
I WAS JUST SAYING, WHAT DID WE OFFER THE WORD EMBRACE A CULTURE IN WHICH EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SMALL CHANGES.
NOW, WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY? UM, I WAS I WAS REALLY LIKING THE EXCLUSION OF COMMUNITY HERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO TO THE EXISTING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, EVEN IF THEY DO EMBRACE A CULTURE THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALTERNATIVE ENERGY EFFICIENT METHODS.
DOES THAT FIT INTO THIS GOAL? WE HAVE PREVIOUS GOALS IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT IT MAYBE DOES FIT INTO.
SO IF AS A BOARD, YOU KNOW, THE CONSENSUS IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO END IT ON COMMUNITY, WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THE STRUCTURE, SO BE IT.
IT'S SLIGHTLY MISPLACED, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ABSURDLY MISPLACED. BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY TWO CENTS.
I LIKED THE FOCUS ON THE REDUCED THE REDUCTION OF THE NEGATIVE, THE YUCKY STUFF, IF WE WILL, BEING PUT ON THE CITY AND THE BUSINESSES SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN REAP THE BENEFITS. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT EXPRESSLY AGAINST EXPANDING INTO COMMUNITY.
AND WITH THAT EXPANDING WITH THE STATEMENT THAT MR. SNYDER SAID, I JUST KIND OF WANT TO SHARE A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT VANTAGE POINT SO WE CAN HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION, IF YOU WILL.
SINCE IT IS SHORT AND SWEET AND ENDS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, I'M OK WITH KEEPING IT. SO.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I ACTUALLY AM NOT A HUGE FAN OF THIS ONE, THAT WE HAVE EMBRACED CULTURE, WHICH JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT IS AN ACTIONABLE.
AND SO WHAT I WAS THINKING IS WE COULD DO I MEAN.
IF YOU LOOK AT UNDERCITY POINT, AT WHAT WILL BE POINT C, BUT IS CURRENTLY POINT H TO
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REDUCE YOUR CARMICHAELS, MILES TRAVELED, CREATE AWARENESS OF LOCALLY AVAILABLE GOOD SERVICES, RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE LIVE, WORK LIFE.SO WHAT IF WE JUST SAY SOMETHING LIKE, UM.
EMBRACE LOCALLY AVAILABLE GOODS, SERVICES, RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN ORDER TO DRIVE LESS. THAT'S SIMPLE, RIGHT? LIKE, MAYBE ACTUALLY I JUST WANT DO TWO WORDS TRY, BUT I MEAN, ULTIMATELY WE'RE GETTING AT IT RIGHT. AND SO.
I THINK THAT MAYBE ADDING THE OTHER STUFF, IT JUST COULD COME OFF A LITTLE INSENSITIVE TO SAY IT IS DRY, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT IN PALM TO DRIVE.
SO EMBRACE LOCALLY AVAILABLE GOOD SERVICES, RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN ORDER TO DRIVE LESS. THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF THAT SECTION, UM, UH.
FROM HERE, THERE'LL BE SOME OVERALL EDITING, THE WHOLE DOCUMENT CAN GO BACK OUT VIA EMAIL TO THE WHOLE BOARD AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE CAN.
SAY THIS IS A PRESENTABLE DOCUMENT.
AM I RIGHT, BRITTA? I MAKE A SUGGESTION JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME LATITUDE.
WE HAVE TWO POTENTIAL MEETINGS TO PRESENT, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR FOR THE COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 17.
WHICH POLLS BEFORE YOUR REGULAR MEETING OF JUNE 22ND, I BELIEVE.
TWENTY THIRD, AND THEN THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE AUGUST THE FOURTH.
FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, SO IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE.
TWO MORE MEETINGS UNDER YOUR BELT.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU DATED YOUR EYES AND CROSS YOUR T'S AND STAFF HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS TO ASSIST YOU.
WE COULD IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER DECIDING THAT AUGUST FOUR WOULD BE YOUR PRESENTATION DATE, STAFF WILL SUPPORT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
IS THERE ANY. ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT, WHY ONE? FORGIVE ME, WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON DATES, JUNE 17TH AND JULY ONE.
I'M SORRY, YOUR QUESTION, CHAIRWOMAN.
THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN MY MIND, BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY A TWO WEEK.
DIFFERENCE VERSUS WE GO TO YOUR PARENTS.
YEAH, THAT'S FINE. WE GO TO JULY1 FOR FINAL COUNSEL PRESENTATION.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE A MOTION? I JUST WANT TO KNOW, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THAT EMOTION AT OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE FINAL DOCUMENT.
THEN WE'LL KNOW BETTER WHETHER WE'RE COMFORTABLE, IF THAT'S OK OR DO WE NEED TO KNOW NOW? WELL, WE WANT TO GET THAT ON COUNSEL'S RADAR SO THAT THEY I MEAN, STAFF'S RADAR AS WELL AS WE KNOW THAT'S COMING IN.
AND KEEP IN MIND, IF YOU WERE TO SAY, WELL, WE'LL BE READY TO GO IN JULY ONE, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT WAS NOT THE CASE, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUSH IT.
OK, WE JUST SPEND A FEW MINUTES ON WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
IS THIS. I MEAN, THIS THIS HAS A LOT OF PAGES TO IT.
ARE WE? ACTING COUNSEL TO READ IT, ARE WE THINKING IN TERMS OF SUMMARIZING IT AND ATTACHING A LETTER? WELL, YOU RECALL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO A BIT OF AN ADDRESS, A MESSAGE TO COUNSEL.
YOU COULD BE THINKING ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE COUNCIL AGENDA, JUST AS ANY DOCUMENT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE IT IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING WHERE THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED AND THEN THE BOARD, OUR SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, WOULD APPEAR AND JUST FORMALLY PRESENT THE DOCUMENT FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
AND MANAGER, SO MY PROPOSITION, IF IT WORKS AND I'M NOT USING THE WORD MOTION BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE WE MAKE IT OFFICIAL, BUT IN.
JUST TO GET DATES CORRECT, I BELIEVE THAT OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, JUNE THE TWENTY THIRD.
ADDITIONALLY, VERY IRONICALLY, MY CALENDAR, I MADE THE SAME MISTAKE AND PRETENDED LIKE THE MONTH OF JULY DIDN'T EXIST AND STARTED LOOKING AT AUGUST 5TH, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN THAT MONTH.
BUT LUCKILY, WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT HERE TO BRING US ATTENTION THAT JULY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY
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MY FAVORITE MONTH, FOURTH OF JULY, MY FAVORITE HOLIDAY.BUT ANYWAYS, JULY 1ST WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY.
SO MY PROPOSITION AND IF IT GETS TO THE POINT THAT WE PUT IT INTO A MOTION, GREAT.
MY PROPOSITION WOULD BE THAT WE FINISH OUR EDITING.
AND WHEN I SAY OUR EDITOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IN ADVANCE, THE STAFF WOULD THEN GET THE FINISHED DOCUMENT, THE FINAL DRAFT IN OUR INBOXES, I'M SURE, RELATIVELY WELL IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.
SO WE'LL ALL HAVE TIME TO DIGEST IT, LOOK THROUGH IT.
AND THEN WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS SEND OUR AGENDA FOR JUNE 25TH AS THE PREPARATION OF OUR PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL FOR JULY 1ST.
I AGREE WITH MISS CALENDAR SENTIMENT THAT WE WANT TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA EARLY.
WE WANT TO GET THE RESPECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AS FAR AS TIME GOES, THE MONTH OF JUNE IS VERY BUSY FOR COUNCIL, SO I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
I THINK WE ALL HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT.
BUT THEY ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE BOARDS TO ON THE BOOKS TO TAKE THEIR EXCESS WORKLOAD AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD COME ON JULY ONE WITH WITH A NICE FRESH MIND.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY'LL HAVE JUNE THE 3RD, THEY'LL HAVE JUNE THE 10TH AND JUNE 17TH TO HANDLE THEIR THEIR INFLUX OF BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE OUR PLAN TO THEM.
I MEAN, RIGHT AFTER THE JUNE 25TH.
I MEAN, WE'LL PUT OUR STAMP ON IT AND WE'LL WE'LL MEET ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND WE'LL PUT OUR STAMP ON IT THAT EVENING.
AND STAFF WILL WE'LL SEE TO IT THAT IT GETS SUBMITTED THAT THURSDAY, WHICH MEETS THE FRIDAY DEADLINE. SO THAT'S PERFECT.
WE'LL BE ON THE JULY 1ST AGENDA AND WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION.
SO ONCE WE'VE FINALIZED IT ON JUNE 25TH, THEN I THINK WE CAN REALLY EXPAND ON WHAT OUR PRESENTATION LOOKS LIKE.
YOU KNOW, WHO IS GOING TO SAY WHAT YOU COUNSEL IN A PUBLIC FORUM, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUR ADVANTAGE OF SPEAKING AT THE COUNCIL MEETING TO ALSO DRAW IN THE PUBLIC COUNCIL MEETINGS, GET A FEW MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS THAN WE GOT TONIGHT.
NOT ALWAYS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GET A FINAL DRAFT BEFORE IN OUR INBOXES TO CONSUME AND LOOK AT AND KIND OF CERTIFY AHEAD OF THE JUNE 25TH MEETING COMING TO THE JUNE 25TH MEETING, SAY, YES, IT'S PERFECT BESIDES THIS PERIOD OR EXCLAMATION POINT THAT WE MISSED AND THEN GET RIGHT INTO THE WORK OF PLANNING OUR PRESENTATION.
AND THEN JULY THE 1ST WE EXECUTE ON IT SO THAT I'M REALLY FORECASTING HERE.
BUT OUR JULY REGULAR MEETING IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE TWENTY EIGHTH OF JULY IS CALENDAR WE CAN TRANSITION OUT OF ACTION PLANNING AND INTO.
ACTIONABLE ITEM PLANNING, AND WE CAN START LOOKING AT OUR EXPANSION LIST AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY, SAYING THAT WE CAN GET TO WORK.
SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAD IN MY HEAD.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY ELSE AS WELL.
AND WE COULD DEFINITELY MAKE A MOTION ONCE WE KIND OF SEE WHERE IT'S GOING.
DOES THAT GIVE IS THAT TIMELINE WORK FOR STAFF? I'M THINKING THAT IF WE.
IF WE PUSH TO, WHAT, JULY 17? DOING AND WORKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IN THE CALENDAR AND NOT.
I BELIEVE THE 17TH IS THE SECOND MEETING ON JULY 15TH.
IN TWENTY THIRD AND THEN JULY TWENTY EIGHTH.
JUST TO REMARK THAT DOES LEAVE US SOME TIME BEFORE OUR JULY MEETING TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNSEL, WHETHER IT'S AT THE MEETING OR IN WRITING AFTERWARDS, TO GET INTO TO ACT ON
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IT. I WISH THAT WE COULD DO IT JULY 1ST, BECAUSE I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK HERE.THE CONCERN IS ALSO THAT WE WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF ALL THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH BEFORE THE BUDGETING SITUATION BEGINS.
WE'RE PUSHING THAT HARD. BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS MOST FEASIBLE AS WE EXPAND ON EVERYTHING. IS IT WOULD IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE HAD ONE MORE SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE OUR REGULAR MEETING IN JUNE? WITH THE REVIEW STAFF REVIEW THIS REQUIRED, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO INCREASE YOUR TO INCREASE YOUR.
WHERE AM I LOOKING FOR YOU? AMOUNT OF TIME. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO IMPACT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GET TO COUNSEL.
VOTING WE NEED TO VOTE ON JULY 15TH, SORRY THERE'VE HAVE BEEN SO MANY NUMBERS THROWN OUT.
RIGHT, THEY. 15TH TO THE PRESENT ON JULY 15TH, AND THEN IN OUR NEXT AND OUR REGULAR JUNE MEETING, WE WILL HAVE THE.
THE COMPLETED DOCUMENT IN OUR AGENDA PACKET, SO WE CAN READ IT IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING AND BE PREPARED TO FINALIZE IT, AND THEN IT GOES TO STAFF MEETING, STAFF REVIEW, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE REQUEST STAFF TO GET US ON THE AGENDA FOR THE JULY 15TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO PRESENT OUR PLAN TO COUNCIL.
I SECOND THIS MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, THEN I, I, I.
LET'S OK, SO WE'RE KIND OF ALREADY ON OTHER BUSINESS, ANY OTHER OTHER BUSINESS.
[OTHER BUSINESS]
IF I MAY, THANK YOU, JUST TO FORMALLY ADDRESS WHAT I INTERPRETED MISS CALENDERS HESITATION IN HAVING MISTAKENLY DISTRIBUTE HER NOTES EARLIER, AS FAR AS OUR REGULATIONS GO, WE NEED TO GET THIS ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD AS FAR AS THIS MEETING IS CONCERNED. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T KNOW.BUT I THINK FOR GOOD MEASURE, WHILE WE'RE AT IT, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ALSO GET WHAT WE REFERRED TO IN THIS MEETING, THE ZIGGLER PLAN INTRODUCED IN THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE TO MR. SNYDER'S POINT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THAT WASN'T IN OUR ORIGINAL AGENDA PACKET. SO TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS A PUBLIC RECORD AND EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE SEEN AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO POSSIBLE INTERPRETATION THAT THE PUBLIC THINKS WE WERE PASSING NOTES THAT ARE PRIVATE AND NOT PUBLIC.
IF AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
BUT WE GET MISS CONNELLY'S NOTES INTO IN AN ELECTRONIC FORMAT, AS WELL AS THE ZIGGLER PLAN, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE IN AN ELECTRONIC FORMAT, JUST ENTERED INTO WHETHER IT'S THE MINUTES FROM THIS MEETING, I THINK WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE THING JUST TO KEEP EVERYTHING NICE AND SUNSHINY.
SO YOU'RE AWARE THE ZIGGLER DOCUMENT IS ALREADY PUBLIC RECORD, SO THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF? YEP. AND I SPOKE WITH SUSAN AND I MENTIONED THAT WE WILL INCLUDE THAT IN PUBLIC RECORD AS WELL. SO THE PROPOSAL THAT SHE MADE TO BOARD TONIGHT IS OFFICIALLY GOING TO BE PUBLIC RECORD. DIGITAL COPY COMPUWARE AND OR YOU COULD IT, IF YOU LIKE, YOU CAN EMAIL ATTACHMENT TO ME, THAT'S FINE.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RECORD.
OTHER BUSINESS. AND SO WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, JUNE 20, SECOND, THIRD, JUNE TWENTY THIRD SIX POINT THIRTY SIX P.M..
THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND MOVED? SECOND. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, I I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
EXTRA PHILLIP.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.