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[CALL TO ORDER]

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I LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH 12 TO ORDER.

THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR TOM WALKER OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL RISE.

GOD INSTRUCTS THE CITIZENRY TO PRAY THIS WAY FOR ALL OF YOUR LEADERS, ALL WHO ARE IN AUTHORITY SO WE CAN LIVE A PEACEFUL, QUIET LIVES MARKED BY GODLINESS.

AND THIS IS WHAT GOD SAYS TO OUR LEADERS NOW, THEN YOU LEADERS ACT WISELY AND WARNED YOUR RULERS OF THE EARTH SERVE THE LORD.

REVEREND FEAR AND REJOICE WITH TREMBLING TO PRAY TOGETHER.

BY THE WAY, THANKS SO WE CAN BE HERE TODAY.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE THIS.

THESE ARE LEADERS, I PRAY, BLESSING ON THEM AND THEIR FAMILY.

I PRAY FOR YOUR PROTECTION ON THEM AND THEIR FAMILY.

I PRAY FOR YOUR SPIRIT TO GUIDE EACH ONE OF THEM, GIVE THEM THE WISDOM THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS THIS EVENING AND AND AND THE WEEKS AND YEARS AHEAD.

I PRAY THAT THE CITY WOULD PROSPER AS THEY PROSPER, AS THEY LEAD US IN A GOD HONORING WAY THAT PALM BAY I WOULD GROW TO BE A VIBRANT CITY MORE AND MORE, AND THAT GOD, YOUR HAND WOULD BE ON THIS GREAT CITY.

AND SO, GOD, TONIGHT WE PLEDGE THIS NIGHT TO YOU AND WE PLEDGE OURSELVES TO YOU MAY BE HONORED IN OUR CONVERSATIONS AND IN OUR ATTITUDE, IN OUR RESPONSES AND IN OUR QUESTIONS.

IN JESUS NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN. BUT JUST TAKES A LOT IT JUST TAKES ISSUE WITH THIS WHOLE.

RAH. MRS. JONES, ROLL CALL MEDINA PRESIDENT JOHNSON COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

FOSTER, YEAH, YEAH, HERE, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOARD REPRESENT THAT LARGE MEMBER WHO OWNS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR OPERATES A BUSINESS WITHIN THE DISTRICT ONE VACANCY OR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS RESIDENTIAL HOMEBUILDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING EMPLOYEE EMPLOYER WITHIN THE CITY OR FOR PROFIT PROVIDER.

POSITION THREE VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITIONS. ONE VACANCY ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE POSITION.

ONE TERM EXPIRING ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ONE VACANCY OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS THE NOT FOR PROFIT PROVIDER POSITION.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY.

FLORIDA ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THREE FOUR ONE FOUR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

[AGENDA REVISIONS]

MADAM SHERMAN. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE HAVE TWO AGENDA REVISIONS.

THE FIRST IS REVISED LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM, AS WELL AS SOME ATTACHMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED FOR ITEM TWO UNDER CONSENT FOR THE CASCA COSPONSORSHIP ITEM, AS WELL AS ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS REGARDING THE PELICAN HARBOR MARINA PARCELS ALSO HAS A NEW AND REVISED LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM.

LASTLY, OR CYPRUS BAY WITH PHASE ONE PUDI, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE HAVE REVISED EXHIBITS B AND C, THANK YOU.

ADAM SMITH, YES, SIR, AN UPDATE TO THE OPIATE LITIGATION HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER PRESENTATIONS.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, ANYONE?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER TWO, EIGHT, NINE AND 10 FROM THE CONCILIATED, TWO TWO, EIGHT, NINE AND 10.

SO. AND THE OTHER REMOVES.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REVISED LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDA OF ITEM 200 CONSENT AGENDA ITEM TWO ON THE NEW BUSINESS AND UPDATE OF ITEM ONE TO PRESENTATIONS AND THE REMOVAL FROM THE CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS TWO, EIGHT, NINE AND 10 SECOND. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, ESSES UNANIMOUSLY.

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DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. OH.

MADAM SHERMAN, I'LL DEFER TO YOU FOR ITEM TWO ON THE CONCERN.

[2. Consideration of co-sponsorship of three (3) events for the Brevard Caribbean American Sports and Cultural Association’s (BCASCA) celebration of Caribbean American Heritage Month.]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES.

SO ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION OF A COSPONSORSHIP OF THREE EVENTS FOR THE BOVARD, CARIBBEAN AMERICAN SPORTS AND CULTURAL ASSOCIATIONS, CELEBRATION OF CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, THE REVISIONS THAT WERE MADE JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THEM BRIEFLY FOR THE RECORD. PART ONE WAS ACTUALLY UPDATING TO THE ORIGINALLY INCLUDED COSTS OR THESE EVENTS.

SO THE COSPONSORSHIP INVOLVES WAIVER OF SOME NORMALLY CHARGED RENTAL FEES FOR THINGS LIKE BLEACHERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AS WELL AS THE ESTIMATES FOR THE MAXIMUM COSTS FOR STAFF TIME THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING THE EVENT.

SO THE ORIGINAL MEMO INDICATED THE COST ESTIMATE WAS SIXTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED NINETY SEVEN DOLLARS AND 27 CENTS, BASED ON FURTHER REVIEW BY STAFF THAT IS ACTUALLY DECREASING.

THE NUMBER SHOULD BE FOURTEEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS AND 13 CENTS FOR THE TWO EVENTS. ALSO, WHAT WE'VE ADDED TO THE MEMO IS INFORMATION STATING THAT BASED ON THE HISTORICAL ATTENDANCE AT FREE EVENTS SUCH AS THESE STAFF ESTIMATES, THE JUNE 4TH EVENT TURN OUT IN THE RANGE OF SIX HUNDRED TWO THOUSAND PEOPLE AND THE JUNE 26 TURNOUT COULD BE IN THE 10000 RANGE.

THE IS ACTUALLY PLANNING 14 DIFFERENT EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE MONTH AS FURTHER DESCRIBED IN THE PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ALL.

THESE ARE THREE OF THE EVENTS OF THE 14 THAT THEY ARE HOSTING.

AS I MENTIONED, THE MAJORITY OF THE COSTS ARE FOR STAFF TIME AND ALSO NOTING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE STAFF COSTS INCLUDE FULLY LOADED BENEFIT RATES AS WELL AS THE ESTIMATION FOR OVERTIME. AND SO THE INFORMATION IS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET ALSO BROKEN DOWN BY THE THREE EVENTS. SO COUNCIL CAN EVALUATE THAT FURTHER FOR THE JUNE 3RD EVENT, WHICH IS A SMALLER TYPE GATHERING RIGHT BEFORE THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

IT'S A SMALL COST OF STAFF.

THAT IS ABOUT ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS JUST FOR SOME SET UP OF SOME TABLES AND CHAIRS.

THE JUNE 4TH EVENT IS ESSENTIALLY A FRIDAY NIGHT EVENT.

THERE WILL BE A VETERAN'S PARK AND THE TOTAL FOR THAT ONE OUT OF THE TOTAL FOURTEEN THOUSAND IS THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FIFTY FOUR DOLLARS AND TWENTY NINE CENTS.

AND THE LAST ONE IS THE BIG EVENT ON A SATURDAY.

SO IT'S KIND OF AN ALL DAY EVENT.

THERE'D BE A PARADE AND A LOT OF A LOT OF FUN THINGS GOING ON THERE.

THAT WILL BE AN ELEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED TWENTY ELEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED TWENTY DOLLARS AND EIGHTY FOUR CENTS.

TOTAL COST, AGAIN, MAXIMUM COST BASED ON THE HIGHEST PROJECTION.

AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS? NOT YET THERE. MAYOR BAILEY, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MS. SHERMAN, I JUST WANT TO GET A QUICK CHECK NOW AND ASK FOR SOME INFORMATION.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED THAT THERE TENDS TO BE SOME OTHER CHARGES, FOR INSTANCE, THINGS LIKE ELECTRICITY.

WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS ANYTHING BEING CHARGED TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE EVENT AND WILL ELECTRICITY BE COVERED BY THE CITY? BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE THAT IN THE CALL.

YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ELECTRICITY IS BEING COVERED ON THE CITY SIDE, STAFF DID NOT PROVIDE THAT IS A COST ESTIMATE THAT WAS BEING WAIVED.

THE ONLY EQUIPMENT TYPE WAIVERS THAT WE HAD WERE FOR THE STAGE, THE BLEACHERS, THE GREEN SPACE AND THE SPECIAL EVENT FEE.

SO JUST TO REPEAT MY FIRST QUESTION.

WELL, THE AFRICAN BAILEY APPLICANT BE PROVIDING ANY OF THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, PAY ANYTHING TO THE CITY, NOT FOR THE CITIES, NOT FOR THE COST OF THE CITY'S EQUIPMENT RENTALS OR THE STAFF THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE EVENT.

I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE EVENT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. TO BE CLEAR, THOUGH, THE CITY WILL NOT COLLECT ANYTHING FROM THE APPLICANT UNDER THE PROPOSAL.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WILL CALL YOU UP ONE BY ONE. PERHAPS DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON CAN CALL UP TWO NAMES AND HAVE THE SECOND PERSON ON DECK. SO FIRST UP, BILL BATON ON DECK, CABARRUS.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, I HAVE TWO ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE WAS HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO HAS TO PAY FOR SERVICES AND WHO GETS THE SAME

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CITY SERVICES FOR FREE? I THINK THIS IS THE SAME QUESTION I'VE BEEN ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YEARS AND EVEN MY FRIENDS FROM THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.

I PERSONALLY I LOOK AT THIS IS CALLED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.

WHEN YOU HAVE ONE PERSON THAT HAS TO PAY FOR SOMETHING AND ANOTHER PERSON DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, I CALL THAT PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT AND THAT RELATES TO FRAUD WITHIN A GOVERNMENT. ITEM NUMBER TWO, I THINK A GOOD COMPROMISE WOULD BE THAT EVERY ONE OR EVERY ORGANIZATION HAS TO AT LEAST PAY FOR THE MAN HOURS EXPENSES THAT WOULD BE IN COMPTON FOR ANY FUNCTION THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT OUT.

THEY CAN GET THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE FREE, BUT THE MAN HOURS OR SERVICE HOURS THAT COMES FROM THE TAXPAYERS, THAT'S AN ACTUAL BUNTE FUNDED ITEM WE HAVE TO PAY FOR.

ONE FINAL THOUGHT WITH THAT.

IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE FACT OF THE RESIDENTS VOTING TO PAY FOR THEIR STORMWATER IMPACT FEE OR FOR THE FACT THAT THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY VOTED FOR THE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR ROAD BOND, THIS COUNCIL WOULD NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO TAKE FOR THESE EXTRA LITTLE ITEMS, BE IT EITHER SIXTEEN THOUSAND OR FOURTEEN THOUSAND, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT AT ONE TIME WE SAID NO ORGANIZATION WAS GOING TO GET IT. AND NOW SINCE WE'RE SITTING A LITTLE BIT GRAINER IN THE PAST YEAR NOW, BECAUSE OUR ROADS AND STORMWATER ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY THE TAXPAYERS, THEN I'M STARTING TO SEE A FEW MORE ITEMS ARE SAYING, WELL, WE CAN SPEND OUR MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE.

IF WE GOT THAT EXTRA MONEY, GO BACK AND SAYS USE IT TO PAY OFF THE LOAN THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING FOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO POINTS? THERE WAS A COMPARISON WITH THE PARTNERSHIP OF THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZAS AS AN EXAMPLE. PERHAPS WE COULD SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT IN THAT.

WE WANT YOU TO KNOW.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS.

OR SO ONE THING THAT HAS COME UP AND MR BATTEN IS CORRECT, WE'VE WE'VE HAD A FEW MORE OF THESE COSPONSORSHIP, EVENTS COMING THROUGH TO COUNCIL.

I'VE ALREADY INFORMED ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING, JUNE 3RD, WE WILL HAVE A HEARTY DISCUSSION ABOUT COSPONSORSHIP POLICY TO KIND OF ESTABLISH A LITTLE BIT BETTER OF A SENSE WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT OUR CRITERIA IS, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

SO WE HAVE KIND OF A BALANCE IN HOW WE APPLY THIS THIS INFORMATION.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT ON THAT, MR BATTEN AND I.

AND YES, REGARDING CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, I BELIEVE THE ESTIMATED STAFF COST FOR THAT ONE DAY EVENT WAS A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND IN THAT CASE THERE WAS NO UPFRONT PAYMENT. BUT THE ORGANIZERS DID COME BACK TO THE CITY AFTERWARD AND I THINK GAVE US ABOUT THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN AND FUNDS TO OFFSET THE COST OF THAT EVENT.

WE'VE DONE WE'VE DONE A HANDFUL OF THESE RECENTLY, BUT WE WILL BE CREATING A STRUCTURE FOR THE FUTURE, SO. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IN CANBERRA IS ON DECK, MARCIA JACKSON.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. SO, OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING ON THIS EVENT, IT IS CALLED THE IS THE CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATION.

NOW, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT.

JUNE IS CELEBRATED AS CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

AND SO WE DECIDED THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CELEBRATING THE ENGLISH SPEAKING, THE SPANISH AND FRENCH SPEAKING CARIBBEAN HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT ONLY JUST FOR THE CITIZENS HERE IN PALM BAY, BUT WE ARE SPREADING OUR WINGS AND WE ARE TOUCHING PEOPLE IN TAMPA, THE CARIBBEAN COMMUNITY IN ORLANDO, IN FLORIDA, MIAMI, WEST PALM BEACH.

WE ARE SAYING COME TO PALM BAY AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT OUR EVENTS AND WE HAVE A QUICK VIDEO TO SHOW THAT WE ARE SAYING TO PEOPLE, MAKE IT A WEEKEND.

SO THE VALUE ADDED TO OUR CITY IS SO MUCH MORE THAN WHAT YOU SEE.

WE ARE OFFERING. WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PARTNERSHIP.

BUT WE ARE TELLING YOU THAT WE ARE BRINGING A LOT TO THE EVENT.

WE ALSO HAVE CONSUL GENERALS FROM SEVERAL CARIBBEAN ISLANDS COMING HERE INTO THE CITY, FROM HAITI, FROM JAMAICA, FROM BAHAMAS, FROM BARBADOS, AND OF COURSE, WITH OUR COUNCILMAN PROPOSING A SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIP.

IT FEEDS RIGHT INTO THAT RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

WE ARE SO DIVERSE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR CARIBBEAN COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT PALM BAY TO CELEBRATE WITH US THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

WE'RE REACHING COUNTYWIDE AND SAY CELEBRATE WITH US.

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SO IT TAKE A LOOK AT OUR VIDEO.

I HOPE IT'S READY AND YOU'LL GET A FEELING OF WHAT WE ARE BRINGING TO THE CITY.

AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE FANS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE IS GOING TO BE SO MUCH FAR REACHING. JUNE IS GREAT IN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN AMERICAN AND SPORTS ASSOCIATION INVITES YOU TO CELEBRATE ALL OF, YOU KNOW, A OF GREAT THINGS TO CHOOSE FROM.

IT'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.

THE CELEBRATION OF THE CONFIRMATION CEREMONY IS ALL THEY NEED TO DO.

FRIDAY, FIRST FRIDAY, JUNE FOUR.

I THINK IT'S ON THE LAST DAY OF WORK, BLACK FRIDAY, JUNE 4TH DISTRICT IN FLORIDA THAT IS WORKING FOR OUR COMFORT AND SAFETY REASONS.

WE GOT A IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS.

SO VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT HOW IMPORTANT IS GOING TO BE IN CONTACT WITH ME.

I'M SIGNING TO MAKE A NICE PLACE TO MAKE.

SO I'M GOING TO EXTEND THE TIME FOR THE VIDEO ALSO.

THANK YOU. I WILL BE THERE WILL ALSO BE BECAUSE TO COMES FROM THERE AND I KNEW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH THE CURRENT WILL EVER MAKE A FRAME ON SUCH A MAJOR.

AMERICAN HERITAGE COUNCILWOMAN CELEBRATED NATIONALLY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CALIFORNIANS NEWS TO SHOW A VERY DIVERSE CULTURE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

THE ARMY IS DEALING WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF CULTURES.

YOU LOSE MORE AMERICAN LIVES, BUT WE ALSO CALL FOR A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO HOSPITAL.

IF YOU SEE A ALCORCON.

SO I HOPE YOU SEE THAT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY IS SO IMPORTANT AND SO CRITICAL FOR THIS EVENT TO GO FORWARD.

WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.

BUT OF COURSE, WE KNOW COVID HAS A HUGE IMPACT.

AND SO WE WANT TO SAY TO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN BAILEY WHO HAD THE CONCERN, IT IS THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE ARE HAVING WITH THE CITY IS THE VALUE OF THE VALUE IN TERMS OF DOLLARS. I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN DOLLARS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN DOLLARS IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL LIVE HERE AS CITIZENS, PALM BAY RESIDENTS HERE AT MACZKA, OUR TAXPAYING CITIZENS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CITY.

AND NOW WE'RE SAYING, LET'S PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO SHOWCASE THE CULTURE AND THE TALENTS OF THE PEOPLE HERE IN THIS CITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY IS ALL ABOUT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MARCIA JACKSON DEGLAZE.

EVEN EVERYONE COULD EVEN CONSIDER SUCH A BEAUTIFUL EVENING TO SEE MY BLACK OSCAR MEMBERS REPRESENTING IF YOU LIVE IN PALM BAY AND YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THE CASCA, THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT REALLY GOING OUT AND GETTING INVOLVED IN THE CARIBBEAN ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE. SO AS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF MACZKA, I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO ACCIO TO SUPPORT OUR CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE PLANNED AS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF BECAUSE I AM VERY, VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THESE ACTIVITIES ALSO.

SO I'M REALLY JUST ASKING YOU ALL TO BE A PART, BE INVOLVED AND HELP US TO SPONSOR THESE EVENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I STOPPED BLAISE.

LISTEN, AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS JEFFERSON BLAYSE.

I'M REPRESENTING MAY 18 IN THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY FOR THE EVENING OF JUNE, THE MONTH OF

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JUNE WINKERBEAN MONTH.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW ME, I'M I'M ALSO VISITING THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

WHEN THIS EVENT WAS PRESENTED TO MYSELF IN THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY, I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN FINDING OUT A LOT OF OUR YOUNG YOUTH, THEY ACTUALLY LIVE IN.

WE'VE ACTUALLY LITERALLY LIVING WE ARE GOING TO ORLANDO, MIAMI, NOT TO JUST CELEBRATING THE CULTURE AS SUCH.

THERE'S NO ACTIVITIES FOR THEM TO DO HERE.

AND WE FOUGHT BESIDE TOYIN HOUSE PARTIES WHERE THAT CAN LEAD TO CRAZY THING THAT'S NOT BEING CONTROLLED. SO WHEN THIS EVENT WAS PRESENTED TO ME, I WAS VERY EXCITED AND I AM STILL EXCITED BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE I ATTENDED THE EVENT, WHICH IS IN MIAMI BLAZER PRODUCTION AND IT TO ONE, TWO TO ONE VIDEO IS ASSISTING IN THOSE BIG EVENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING, NOT ONLY FOR PALM BAY AS WELL, THE COUNTY ITSELF, BECAUSE THIS TYPE OF EVENT, WHEN PEOPLE THAT WANT TO INVEST IT IN THE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE AND WITH OUR COUNTY, WE HAVE A LOT OF AMAZING TALENTS, A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE GOING ALL THE WAY TO ATLANTA FOR TOSTADO EVENT.

SO I THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

AGAIN, I'M REPRESENTING THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY HERE AND WE'VE ALSO SURPASSED.

HI, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER.

THEIR COUNCIL ALLOWS FOR A MOTION.

MOST OF THEM APPROVE CONSIDERATION OF COSPONSORSHIP OF THREE EVENTS FOR THEIR CARIBBEAN AMERICAN SPORTS AND CULTURAL ASSOCIATION CELEBRATION OF CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH. I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

DISCUSSION COUNCIL, YES, MAYOR.

SO, MR. BATTEN, I DO AGREE I AGREE THAT STANDARDS DO NEED TO BE SET BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL EVENTS IN THE PAST AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.

BUT I'M ALSO EXCITED THAT OUR STAFF IS JUMPING ON IT.

YES. YEAH, YEAH.

BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU. BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY NONPROFITS THAT DO AMAZING WORK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND THE OTHER PART OF IT SPEAKING TO BUKOVSKY, JUST LESS BCR, A MEETING.

WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT HOTELS.

I'M TRY TO LOOK IT UP, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO SEE OVER THE MONTH OF JUNE IF YOU ALL CAN PULL IT OR I'M GOING TO TRY TO PULL IT.

THE NUMBERS OF, YOU KNOW, WHO'S STAYING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY OR SURROUND MELBOURNE AREA TO SEE WHAT KIND OF TOURISM WE ARE BRINGING IN DURING THIS MONTH.

THAT WAY GOING FORTH IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE COMING BACK, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE. LOOK HOW MUCH IT SKYROCKETED JUST FROM THE MONTH OF JUNE.

NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON IN PALM BAY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S FROM? YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WOULD BE GOOD TO CONSIDER THAT WAY.

IT'S TANGIBLE AND YOU CAN SHOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

OTHER THAN THAT, I HAD NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THIS.

BUT GOING FORWARD, I DO AGREE WITH MR BATTEN YOURSELF, MAYOR AND SUZANNE IN REGARDS TO HAVING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN MAKE IT MORE EVEN FOR EVERYBODY.

SO THAT'S ALL. COUNCILMAN FELIX MAYOR MR. BARTON, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT I MUST SAY NOT ALL THE EVENTS CREATING EQUAL, YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO LET'S TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

THESE ARE THE TYPE OF EVENT THAT WE THAT BRINGS VALUE.

AND I THINK THAT A MS. KATE DID ARTICULATE THAT VERY WELL WITH THE VIDEOS.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS, SAME AS THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, IS A TYPE OF EVENT THAT REALLY BRING VALUE.

NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S REALLY ELEVATE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IF YOU EVER ATTEND.

I MEAN, I'M SURE MOST OF US ATTEND THAT.

THOSE THOSE COUPLE OF EVENTS, YOU CAN SEE IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT.

IT'S TRULY WHAT BRINGS FUN IN A GREAT POSITIVE ATMOSPHERE.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YES, I WANT TO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT ALSO WE GOT TO LOOK AT LOOKED AT THE EVENTS FOR WHAT THEY ARE.

I'LL CERTAINLY IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS IS THE CITY SUPPORTING COSPONSORING THIS EVENT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE DO NEED A POLICY ON THIS, AND THE CITY MANAGER SAID SHE WAS GOING TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL.

YOU DO NEED A POLICY, BUT.

WE HAVE THE CHRISTMAS, THIS GUY GRAND, A GREAT EVENT.

AN OUTSTANDING EVENT AND THE VALUE THAT IT BRINGS TO THE CITY IS OUTSTANDING AND I'M YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THEM AND.

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YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET NO CHRISTMAS GIFT, BUT I ENJOY BEING THERE.

OK, WITH THE CARIBBEAN.

ESTIMATE THAT THE COST IS GOING TO BRING ON.

I GREW UP IN NEW YORK CITY.

I WAS BORN IN QUEENS, I WAS RAISED IN BROOKLYN.

AND IN BROOKLYN, LABOR DAY.

WE HAVE THE LABOR DAY LABOR DAY PARADE, AND THAT'S A CARIBBEAN PARADE IN BROOKLYN ON EASTERN PARKWAY. AND I AS A KID, I USED TO GO THERE AND SEE TO, YOU KNOW, MY MY DANCING WASN'T THAT GREAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I USED TO STILL DRUMS THE STILTS, THE FLAGS OF DIFFERENT KARIBA.

I LEARNED SOME. AND THAT SO MANY PEOPLE, IF YOU EVER BEEN TO ONE OF THE LABOR DAY PARADE, SO MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP MILES AND MILES ALONG.

ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT BROUGHT TO NEW YORK CITY EVERY LABOR DAY.

EACH YEAR. THIS EVENT COULD BE THAT EVENT.

THIS EVENT, WHICH JUST STARTED, I JUST HAVE A VISION THAT THIS COULD BE AN ANNUAL THING THAT COULD HAVE A GREAT ECONOMIC IMPACT.

TO OUR CITY. AND AND HE WILL BE CHECKING THEIR CALENDARS TO COME TO PALM BAY, BUT A CARIBBEAN FESTIVAL BRING IT ON A MONTH LONG.

SO I COMMEND THE COSTA FOR STEPPING FOR IT TAKES A LOT OF ORGANIZATION.

IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO DO THIS.

AND THEN I ARE GETTING PAID TO DO THIS.

IT TAKES A LOT AND IT BRINGS VALUE TO PALM BAY PUTS US ON THE MAP.

WITH CARIBBEAN COMMUNITY, NOT JUST IN FLORIDA, BUT I BELIEVE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, ONCE WE GET KNOWN THAT THIS IS TAKING PLACE AND I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB.

SO FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS MIGHT COST THE CITY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS GOING TO BRING TO THE CITY, WE'RE GETTING OUT OF COVID.

AND PEOPLE WANT TO COME OUT AND CELEBRATE AND AND, YOU KNOW, BE AMONG EACH OTHER AND ENJOY YOURSELF. AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND PALM BAY IS LEADING THE WAY AND CULTURE AND SPORTS.

AND AND I THINK THE COST OF TAKING THIS TASK AND AND HAVING IT HERE AND PALM BAY, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT ANYWHERE, YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT IN MELBOURNE, YOU COULD HAVE HAD AN KOCHO, COULD HAVE HAD AN UNINCORPORATED AND THE COUNTY.

COULD HAVE HAD IT IN WEST MELBOURNE.

IMAGINE YOU DID THIS IN WEST MELBOURNE AND YOUR HEADQUARTERS IN PALM BAY AND YOU GO TO WEST MELBOURNE AND PUT THIS ON A MS., WEST MELBOURNE, WHERE EVERYTHING.

I THINK PEOPLE IN HIS COUNCIL WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT UPSET THAT HE DID THAT.

OH, AND.

YES, MA'AM, OR NO NEED, NO MORE PALM BAY MONEY, SO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN BAILEY, I DON'T HAVE A VISUAL OF YOU, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN VIETNAM? YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU. YOU HEAR ME CLEARLY? YES, SIR, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU. I DID HAVE SEVERAL POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE ON THIS ITEM, AS HAS BEEN STATED, A POLICY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BROUGHT FORTH TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. THIS WAS STATED AT THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP REGARDING GAOLER.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN A TOUCHY ISSUE IN THE PAST PREVIOUSLY MEANS THEY'VE HAD TIME TO PUT THESE THINGS IN WITHOUT ALWAYS HAVING ALL COUNCILWOMAN AWARENESS THAT THEY WERE BEING DONE FROM THE DAY LIKE WE DO HAVE THEM COME FORTH BEFORE THE PUBLIC NOW, WHICH IS A POSITIVE THING. HOWEVER, MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE REFRAINING, IN MY OPINION, FROM REMARKS FROM RECOMMENDING ANY COSPONSORSHIP UNTIL THE CITY MANAGER HAS COMPLETED HER TEXT. AND COMING UP WITH THE POLICY AND I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO MS. SHERMAN ABOUT THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS IN THE PAST FEW ITEM AT THIS POINT, ALMOST FIVE, ALMOST SIX MONTHS AS TO.

I SECOND POINT, AND SO MY OVERALL POINT THERE IS THAT REALLY WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING ANYTHING UNTIL THE MINUTE THAT'S DONE.

BUT MY SECOND POINT IS THAT COUNCILMAN IF COUNSEL WISHES TO CONTINUE ENTERTAINING THESE REQUESTS AND GIVING AWAY FREE TAXPAYER RESOURCES TO PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS, THEN COUNSEL SHOULD ALSO TAKE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND THEY ARE CERTAINLY CULPABLE FOR MAKING THIS DECISION WITHOUT HAVING A POLICY OF

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COUNCILMAN DOESN'T WISH TO DO COSPONSORSHIP, WHICH WOULD BE FINE.

BUT THEN WE DON'T NEED A POLICY.

THERE'S NO ISSUE. BUT IF COUNCIL MEMBERS DO SO, THIS IS IMPORTANT AND THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AND GRANT ESCROW SPONSORSHIPS, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT THE POLICY WAS IN PLACE PRIOR TO DECEMBER.

I DO. I'M JUST DOING THIS AS A FACT.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I HEAR A LOT OF SUPPORT.

AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND OURSELVES WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE IMPORTANT THINGS TO TRY TO STEP UP FOR THE BATTLEFIELD.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT ALL THE ONUS ON OUR CITY MANAGER IN THIS CASE.

THE THIRD THING IS THAT WE HAVE A TIMING ISSUE.

THIS, INSTEAD OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, IS COMING LESS THAN 30 DAYS BEFORE THEIR SERIES OF EVENTS. THE EVENT IS BEING ADVERTISED AS YEARS PRIOR TO ANY APPROVAL, WHICH IN MY OPINION, IS A LITTLE BIT PRESUMPTUOUS.

AND IN THE CASE OF OTHER AFRICANS WHO ARE PAYING AND NOT ASKING FOR ANY TYPE OF TAXPAYER RESOURCES, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE A DEPOSIT AND MOVE THEM TO MAKE THEIR PAYMENTS AT A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT.

THAT IS, THE POLICY IS PROMULGATED OUT THERE.

AND SO THIS EVENT TO BE ADVERTISED PRIOR PRIOR TO THAT.

AND I THINK, AGAIN, THAT IS WHETHER I MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, STAFF AND MANAGEMENT HAS NOT BROUGHT IT. SO NOW I THINK THAT THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS NUMBER FOR LOOKING AT THE AGENDA BY JUNE.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR SPONSORSHIP OF COSPONSORSHIP.

THERE WAS A POLICY.

ONE OF THE KEY PARTS OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE.

WHY ARE WE DOING, AS MR. BATTON SAID, THIS IN AN AS WE HEARD IN THE PAST AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE'VE GIVEN LIP SERVICE IN THE PAST, JUST LIKE THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL HAS DONE THIS BEFORE.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE WAS NO STATED PUBLIC PURPOSE, AND NOR DO I BELIEVE IN COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTING THE ISD PALM BAY I BELIEVE THERE IS A JUSTIFIABLE ONE IN THIS CASE. THIS IS A SERIES OF A SERIES OF EVENTS THAT CENTRAL TO A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION.

IN MY LAST POINT, AND THIS IS WHERE I COME AND WHERE I BUILD THE SETTLEMENT IS WHAT I NEEDED, A HAPPY MEDIUM.

BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO AGREE ON ALL THOSE POINTS THAT I MADE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME FACTS NEAR THERE.

IRREFUTABLE CONCLUSIONS CAN BE DRAWN DIFFERENTLY.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ALSO ANOTHER POLICY IN PLACE THAT WE PROVIDE 25 PERCENT DISCOUNT TO NONPROFIT.

IT WASN'T MADE CLEAR AND FROM THE DOCUMENTS I GOT YET FROM MANAGEMENT, THERE ARE ABOUT MR. PER PERSON WISHES WHETHER THOSE APPLY TO ALL FEES AND ALL EXPENSES THAT ARE PART OF THIS. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I COULD LIVE WITH, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE APPLIED EQUITABLY TO ALL ORGANIZATIONS DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS THAT DO BRING IN PROFIT, THAT YOU DO BRING IN SALES TAX DOLLARS AND OTHER TYPES OF REVENUES TO OUR CITY WHO ARE PAYING THEIR JUST FEES IN THE PROCESS.

SO I THINK THAT THE WISDOM FOR COUNCILS IS TO UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY IS IN FULL SUPPORT BECAUSE I LOVE THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

I THINK THEY ARE POSITIVE FOR PALM BAY AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO STAND BACK AND REALIZE THAT WE'RE GUARDIANS OF THE TAXPAYERS RESOURCES AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND WHAT IS THE CORRECT WAY OF THINKING. AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AWARDING THIS TONIGHT IS THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING IT. I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REALIZE THEY STOP AND GET A POLICY IN PLACE THAT BE A FIRST PRIORITY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN BAILEY, I'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN AT THIS TIME, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I AGREE THAT YOU WERE PERFECTLY CORRECT WHEN YOU STATED THAT THERE WAS A TASK GIVEN TO OUR CITY MANAGER TO TO PROCESS THIS, TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE, CERTAINLY BY NOW.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES THERE WERE SHE HAD NO ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME THAT WERE OTHER THINGS THAT TOOK PRIORITY.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT.

SHE IS BRINGING IT FORWARD.

IT'S JUST THE TIMING IS AFTER THIS, WHAT WE'RE DECIDING TODAY.

I'D LIKE TO ALSO BRING UP A FEW INSIGHTS.

AND I DO HAVE REALLY GOOD INSIGHT REGARDING THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA TO MENTION THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

LET ME JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT COST AND THAT COST ALWAYS EXCEEDED OVER 20000 DOLLARS THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

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NO ONE WAS PAYING, NO VOLUNTEER EARNED.

AND I THINK MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER MENTIONED THE VOLUNTEER HOURS TO PLAN AN EVENT SUCH AS THESE. IT'S HUGE, A NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF TASK, A NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF MEETINGS AND VOLUNTEER HOURS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WELL, THE DEDICATION OF THE PEOPLE BRINGING FORTH THIS THIS EVENT WITH A FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERYTHING IS F.R.

DOUBLE IN. NO ONE PAYS FOR ANYTHING, NO CHILD AND THE GIFTS THAT ARE GIVEN AWAY, THAT'S NOT EVEN PART OF THE COST WHEN THEY GIVE AND THEY PAY FOR BOUNCY HOUSES, WHEN THEY PAY FOR ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID IS THE STAGE, THE GENERATOR, THE BLEACHERS, THE LIGHT TOWERS, THE SECURITY OR THE SANITATION STATIONS, SOME OF THE TENTS. THESE THINGS ARE PROBABLY JUST GOING TO BE SITTING SOMEWHERE COLLECTING DUST.

BUT YET WE'RE BRINGING A VALUE TO THIS COMMUNITY.

WE'RE BRINGING CULTURE TO THIS COMMUNITY.

I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF BOCSKOR FOR BRINGING SUCH A WONDERFUL EVENT, HOSTING MULTIPLE EVENTS AN ENTIRE MONTH.

WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE WITH THE BICSKE ORGANIZATION IS WE SOMEWHERE SHOULD BE INVOLVING JUNETEENTH FOR MANY YEARS.

COUNCILMAN THIS THIS CITY HAD A CELEBRATION OF FREEDOM DAY.

IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS FREEDOM DAY.

JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IS IS HOW THE SLAVES WERE.

OLISA CAME TWO YEARS AFTER THE FACT.

AND SO IF BOCSKOR CORRUPT THAT IN SOMEHOW IN THEIR FUTURE, I THINK IT WOULD BE SUCH A BLESSING FOR THIS CITY TO ENGAGE AGAIN WITH THOSE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATIONS.

SO I DO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID.

I LOVE EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE.

I WANT YOU TO HEAR MY HEART IN THIS MR. BATTEN'S RIGHT ON.

WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS IN PLACE ALREADY BECAUSE BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING IS THE DAUNTING TASK OF ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE PUT ON YOU WITH THE WORKSHOPS AND IN ALL OF THAT AND THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, NOW THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO BREATHE IN.

AND I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TASKING YOU FOR THINGS FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND PROVIDING THOSE ANSWERS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, TAKE TIME, NOT TO MENTION EVERYTHING ELSE FROM REPUBLIK THAT WE WERE TASKED WITH AS WELL.

SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION.

I AM FOR EVENTS SUCH AS THESE THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT ACTUALLY BRING FAMILY VALUES. WE HAD A YOUNG MAN TALK ABOUT HIM GOING AND PARTICIPATING WITH YOUNGSTERS.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT CULTURES AND IN THE LATIN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, IN THE CARIBBEAN COMMUNITY.

AND SO I LOVE EVENTS SUCH AS THESE THAT BRING VALUE AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE FAMILY VALUES WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.

MAYOR. OK, COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLARIFIED.

I HAD NO ISSUE WITH THE CITY MANAGER, THE DELAY AND THE CITY MANAGER'S GETTING THE POLICY. I AGREE THAT THIS WAS A LOW PRIORITY ITEM COMPARED TO OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE PUT FORTH AND COUNCIL DIDN'T DIRECTOR TO DO IT BY DECEMBER.

SHE WAS JUST THAT SELF-IMPOSED BY MANAGEMENT.

THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. MY ISSUE IS BRINGING FORTH ITEMS UNTIL THAT DOES HAPPEN.

I THINK THAT ALL ITEMS SHOULD BE STOPPED UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE PLACE.

THAT WAS MY POINT AND IT WAS WELL TAKEN, SIR.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE.

MAY PASSES FOUR TO ONE.

THANK YOU. ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

[8. Consideration of appropriating funds from the Building Department Undesignated Fund Balance to Building Department Operating account to cover the cost of utilizing contracted Building Services-Inspection, Permit Technician, and Plan Review ($300,000).]

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK THIS WAS PULLED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, MAYBE MR. BOBETTE. GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I THOUGHT LAST YEAR WE HIRED SEVERAL NEW INSPECTORS AND TECHNICIANS TO COVER THE INCREASE IN THE BUILDING THAT WAS GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY.

SO THAT WAS AN EXPENSE THAT WE PUT OUT, HIRING MORE PERSONNEL.

SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, WHEN I SAY, WELL, NOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THREE HUNDRED

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THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO DO THE SAME THING, THAT WE JUST HIRED SOME EMPLOYEES, OR I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

BUT IF SOMEBODY CAN JUST GIVE ME SOME INSIGHT, YOU KNOW, I'LL FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT HOW MY TAX DOLLARS WAS SPENT.

AND AS YOU SAID, I AM CONSISTENT BUT NOT WELL-LIKED.

MRS. CHIEF, YOU ARE YOU ARE WELL LIKED, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO HAVE OUR DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL, JOHN PIERSON, COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT.

CERTAINLY WHAT YOU'LL HEAR IS OUR PROCESS IN FILLING THESE POSITIONS, HEATING VEHICLES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE HIRING AND ALSO JUST THE INCREASED VOLUME AND ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

SO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING THIS INCREASE OF THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO COVER THE COST OF OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT SERVICES.

AS YOU KNOW, ON MARCH 11TH, 2021, THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER AWARDED IFP ZERO NINE ZERO 2021 TO THE SIXTH LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIBLE AND MOST RESPONSIVE COMPANIES TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THAT CONTRACT WAS SET FOR MARCH 19TH, 2021.

THROUGH MARCH 18TH, 2022, COUNCIL APPROVED FOUR HUNDRED SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED TWO DOLLARS AGAINST THAT CONTRACT ON FEBRUARY 18TH, 21.

PRIOR TO THE START OF THE CONTRACT, THE DEPARTMENT HAD ALREADY EXPENDED FOUR HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED TWO DOLLARS OF THAT, WHICH LEFT A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT 68000, A LITTLE OVER 68000.

BASED ON THE CURRENT TRENDS, STAFF IS REQUESTING THIS APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET TO A TOTAL OF SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND TWO DUE TO THE INCREASES IN THE BUILDING WITHIN THE CITY, AS MADAM SHERMAN MENTIONED.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF NUMBERS IN THAT REGARD AND ALL OF THE FISCAL YEAR THAT ENDED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020, THERE WAS A TOTAL VALUE OF CONSTRUCTION OF PERMITS ISSUED.

FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO MILLION THREE HUNDRED EIGHT THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX DOLLARS. WE SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING LAST THURSDAY.

AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY POINTED OUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE VALUE.

AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH HIM.

WE COULD HAVE 500 WATER HEATER PERMITS AND FIVE HUNDRED A SEA CHANGE OUT PERMITS.

BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PERMITS, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF VALUE.

SO IF WE TAKE THAT VALUE OF FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO MILLION AND WE COMPARE IT TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE COLLECTED JUST THROUGH APRIL, WHICH IS THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY NINE MILLION, TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND, WE SEE IN THE SEVEN MONTHS OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE ALMOST REACHED WHAT WE DID IN ALL OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

IT'S ABOUT A 43 MILLION DOLLAR DIFFERENCE.

HOWEVER, INTERESTINGLY, ON MAY 5TH WITH THE WEST SHORE APARTMENT COMPLEX RECEIVED THEIR 10 PERMITS FOR THE COMPLETE PROJECT, THAT PROJECT ALONE WAS THIRTY SEVEN POINT TWO MILLION. A LITTLE BIT OVER THAT AND THE FEES BROUGHT IN BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WERE SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE DOLLARS.

THAT'S ABOUT 50000 DOLLARS MORE THAN WE BROUGHT IN IN ALL OF APRIL.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? OF COURSE, A LOT OF STAFF WE HAVE HIRED SEVERAL EMPLOYEES, PERMIT TECHNICIANS, PLANS, EXAMINERS AND INSPECTORS, BUT WE HAVE A MASSIVE INCREASE AND THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AND THE WORK THAT IS INVOLVED IN THE PLAN, REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE JOBS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, VALENTINO PEREZ AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH CONTRACTORS AND MANY OF THEM WHO UP UNTIL NOW HAVE USED PRIVATE PROVIDERS ON THEIR OWN, ARE GIVING THOSE SAME APPLICATIONS TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

SO WE ARE NOW DOING THEIR PLAN REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS WERE IN THE PAST.

THEY WERE PAYING FOR THAT THEMSELVES, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD TO PAY FOR THE PERMITS WITH US. THE EFFORT THERE IS IS REALLY OUR GOAL IS TO BRING THE SERVICES BACK TO THE CUSTOMERS, BECAUSE WHEN THE CONTRACTOR CAN HAVE A REDUCED AND COST, WE HOPE THAT THE COME THE END USE CUSTOMER REALIZE THIS IS THAT SAVINGS AS WELL.

SO ALL IN ALL, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE HAD MASSIVE INCREASES.

WE ALSO HAVE FOUR VEHICLES THAT WERE APPROVED BY BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT ARE ON ORDER.

WE HAVE SOME POSITIONS THAT WE STILL NEED TO FILL, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE VEHICLES YET TO BE ABLE TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON PRIVATE PROVIDER.

BUT AT THIS TIME, IT'S STILL A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE BILLING DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, I'LL HAVE A MOTION.

TO APPROVE THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OPERATING ACCOUNT TO COVER THE COSTS OF

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UTILIZING CONTRACTOR BUILDING SERVICES INSPECTIONS, PERMIT TECHNICIAN AND PLANNING REVIEW THE AMOUNT OF THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN.

MAYOR, YES, COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE SOMETHING THAT I SHARED WITH MS., SHERMAN AND PREPARATION FOR THE MEETING.

NOW, THE UPDATE I WAS LOOKING FOR IS WHERE WE'RE AT AND MAKING SURE WE GET ALL THESE FOLKS IN-HOUSE AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN BETTER INCENTIVIZE THE DEVELOPERS USING THEIR OWN RESOURCES AND THEIR OWN EXTERNAL REVIEWERS AND ENGINEERS TO DO THESE INSPECTIONS. RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE IT'S A 25 PERCENT DISCOUNT WE GIVE THEM.

NO, I SERRATION WHETHER WE COULD ON A TEMPORARY BASIS GIVE THEM A HIGHER WAIVER OR THEIR FEE WHEREVER THEY GO AND PAY FOR THESE RESOURCES THEMSELVES.

CERTAINLY THERE'S A BIGGER COST TO THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO AND PAY FOR OUTSIDE SERVICES. HOWEVER, THEIR BENEFIT AND THEIR INCENTIVE IS THAT IT WILL TAKE THEM LESS TIME AND IT ALSO REDUCES US ON OUR END, REDUCES SOME OF OUR STRESS ON OUR OUR SIDE FOR STEM.

SO NOW THAT'S JUST SOMETHING JUST A TIDBIT TO SHARE ACCOUNTS WITH YOUR PUBLIC SHARE WITH THE SHERMAN AND JUST SEEING WHERE WE ARE AND MAKING SURE WE GET AWAY FROM THESE TEMPS BECAUSE WE DID I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BEEN OVER A YEAR NOW.

WE STARTED THE PROCESS BEFORE VALENTINO PEREZ WAS MADE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL LAST YEAR AND THEN ASKED FOR SOME NUMBERS COMPARING WHAT WE PAY IN-HOUSE COMPARED TO OUR HOUSE CITY SERVICES. AND IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

WE'RE PAYING A WHOLE LOT MORE FOR OUTSIDE SERVICES.

THAT MEANS THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO I WILL SUPPORT THIS AND I'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE FAITH THAT MR. PEREZ AND MR. PEARSON, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ARE WORKING TOWARDS THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THEY HAVE MADE THOSE RIGHT DIRECTION.

IT'S JUST TOUGH. AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S TOUGH AT TIMES TO GET ALL THE RIGHT QUALIFIED FOLKS IN THERE.

BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED WE NEED THE SUPPORT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, MADAM SHERMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? IS THAT WOULD THAT BE MORE CONSIDERING A POLICING YOUR OWN OR WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? ACTUALLY, I WOULD BRING JOHN BACK UP, JOHN PEARSON TO YOU KNOW, THAT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO BRING MORE OF IT IN-HOUSE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE SERVICE WE SHOULD PROVIDE AS A DEPARTMENT. BUT, JOHN, YOU KNOW, JOHN, THAT PERSPECTIVE COUNCILMAN BAILEY IS.

COULD YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT, PLEASE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. FIRST OF ALL, AS FAR AS THE THE FEE REDUCTION GOES, I WANTED EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THAT THE FEE REDUCTION IS ACTUALLY 50 PERCENT.

SO IT'S 50 PERCENT OF THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE.

IF THEY DO THE INSPECTIONS THEMSELVES, 50 PERCENT OF THE PLANNED REVIEW FEE IF THEY DO THE PLAN, REVIEW THEMSELVES.

HAVING SAID THAT, IT'S STILL COST THEM MORE MONEY TO USE AN OUTSIDE SERVICE.

SO IT'S IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO USE US AS A DEPARTMENT.

BUT MANY TIMES THEY DO THAT FOR CONVENIENCE.

THEY LIKE TO HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANT THEM.

OUR DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, IS WORKING TOWARD THAT GOAL OF PROVIDING AN EQUAL SERVICE TO THEM IF THEY DECIDE TO STILL GO WITH PRIVATE PROVIDERS.

WE HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THAT.

THAT IS THAT IS CERTAINLY THEIR CHOICE.

BUT WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE IN-HOUSE FOR FOR THEIR NEEDS.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR VIEWPOINT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SENTIMENT BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER NINE.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MARY.

IT WAS JUST PULLED BY THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

YES. MAYOR, BEFORE WE PROCEED, SO MR. BILL BATEBI, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO BECAUSE SO THE ITEM THAT YOU CAME FOR, IT WAS APPROVED.

FEEL FREE TO STATE OF COUNCILMAN AS LONG AS YOU WANT.

BUT IF IF YOU WERE WAITING FOR THAT TO BE APPROVED, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED, IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FULL HOUSE FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT.

SO. BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

EVERYBODY DRIVE HOME SAFELY.

THANK YOU. I JUST THOUGHT THEY WANTED TO STAY.

GILFRY TO STAY.

FEEL FREE TO STAY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

THAT WAS GOOD. STAND BY FOR A SECOND, YOU SENIOR CHIEF, NO DOUBT MADE SENSE.

AND I WAS IT AGAINST THE FUNCTION, I SAY THE FUNCTIONS ARE GOOD, I JUST WANT A POLICY.

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AREON SENIOR CHIEF BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, I REALIZE WE HAVE TO PAY

[9. Consideration of appropriating General Fund Undesignated Fund Balance ($26,995) to Legislative Operating account to cover the cost of audio/visual and live streaming services from 142 Productions during the Council Chambers renovation.]

FOR THE SERVICES WE RECEIVED.

THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT YOU PAY.

IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, I THINK.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE QUALITY OF WHAT THAT TRANSMISSION SERVICE WAS AND IF ANYBODY'S GONE BACK AND HAD TO REVIEW THAT TRANSMISSION THAT WE WERE PAYING FOR, THE QUALITY WAS NOT REAL GOOD. I MEAN, IN FACT, IT WAS.

SOMEWHAT POOR, AND I'M SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED WITH THE QUALITY.

I ALSO REALIZE, THOUGH, THAT IT WAS UNDER AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

WE HAD WE HAD AN EMERGENCY.

THE CITY HAD TO SOLVE IT.

AND THIS WAS WHAT THEY CAME UP TO SOLVE.

BUT I'VE WATCHED OVER THE MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS THAT I'M COMING HERE, THAT THIS CITY SPENDS A LOT ON I.T.

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ABILITY TO SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS WITHIN HOUSE.

SO I'D KIND OF RECOMMEND, BECAUSE THIS MIGHT HAPPEN AGAIN FOR SOME OTHER REASON, THAT THE LIVE TRANSMISSION CAPABILITIES THAT WE HAVE IT IN-HOUSE ALREADY READY TO GO.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE SERVICES BECAUSE I WATCHED HER I.T.

DEPARTMENT WORK. THEY HAVE THE SKILLS.

THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE SETUP TO DO IT.

SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO SPEND A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS ON SOME MORE IT STUFF.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND SET THEM UP.

SO THEY'RE WELL MAINTAINED BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS WHERE YOU SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD A MEETING WITH COUNCIL IN ANOTHER LOCATION.

WHAT? WE COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE LIVE TRANSMISSION OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM ALSO.

SO I CAN SEE SEVERAL ADVANTAGES TO HAVING THE CITY OF PALM BAY OWNING THEIR OWN LIVE TRANSMISSION CAPABILITIES LIKE WE HAVE BUILT INTO THIS ONE.

BUT THEY HAD THE PORTABLE ONES THERE.

THAT BEING SAID, IT WAS AN EMERGENCY AND YOU GUYS HANDLED IT WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BECAUSE I WAS AT THOSE MEETINGS TO THANK YOU.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE CONSIDERATION OF APPROPRIATE GENERAL FUND AND DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TWENTY SIX THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE DOLLARS TO THE LEGISLATOR OPERATING ACCOUNT TO COVER THE COST OF AUDIOVISUAL AND LIVE STREAMING SERVICES AND ONE FOR TWO PRODUCTIONS DURING THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS RENOVATION.

I COULD. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNSEL? YES, MA'AM. REAL QUICK, I AGREE WITH MR. THAT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS ON COUNSEL WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER I WANTED WAS TO HAVE FACEBOOK LIVE MEETINGS, AND I'VE SEEN THE DIFFERENCE AND MADE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO TUNE IN. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS ADVOCATING FOR.

AND I DIDN'T THINK OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT IN-HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENED, NOBODY DID BECAUSE NOBODY SAW THIS COMING.

BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK, LIKE, I'M GOING WITH THIS RIGHT HERE, BUT CAN WE LOOK AND EXPLORE JUST IN THE FUTURE IF SOMETHING ELSE WERE TO HAPPEN OR, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD OR JUST LOOK TO EXPLORE? ASK AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

I'M LOOKING AT YOU TO BRYAN, SO, YEAH, SO THAT OK, AND PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE BREVARD COUNTY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLICATION.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TV STATION, SO TO SPEAK.

PART OF THAT IS HAVING ACCESS AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

BUT THEIR STAFF THAT HAS TO BE TRAINED ON THAT IS EQUIPMENT.

SO THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE DEFINITELY HAS TO BE A FEASIBILITY STUDY THERE AND SEE WHERE THE COST OVERLAYS AND HOW MANY TIMES SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

BUT, YEAH, THAT IS A GREAT POINT TO STUDY THAT ASPECT AND SEE IF THERE WOULD BE ANY COST SAVINGS. SO COUNCILMAN BAILEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN? ARE YOU STILL THERE? OK, I'VE GOT TO MOST APOLOGIZE.

I WASN'T SURE OF THE ADDRESS AND I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT JUST GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. I DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERMAN ABOUT THIS.

I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OUR BUDGET THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON IT.

I DO ALSO RECOGNIZE PROBABLY THAT EXPERTIZE AND HAVING DONE SOME VIDEO PRODUCTION AND AND AS AN AMATEUR WORKED A VIDEO PRODUCTION SET UP IN MY SEATING CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, DOING IT WITH STUDENTS, I THINK IT IS MORE COMPLICATED.

MAYBE WHAT WE APPRECIATE IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME WORK AS OTHER I.T.

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FUNCTIONS, BUT I'M CERTAINLY 100 PERCENT SUPPORT OF THE FEASIBILITY AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK WITHIN OUR BUDGET.

UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE BREAK IN THE LINE IN THE CITY HALL CHAMBERS, THAT KIND OF LEFT US IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE REALLY THE CHOICE WAS TO RECORD OR EITHER TO PAY THIS EXTRA MONEY FOR A DIFFERENT WAY OF FINDING A WAY TO MAKE THE MEANING OF LIFE.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE FUTURE WHERE I'M FROM MY OPINION THAT THE COSTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, I WOULD RATHER JUST RECORD THEM AND THEY CAN BE PLAYED BACK ONLINE LATER AS OPPOSED TO HAVING FULL PRODUCTION QUALITY.

I THINK QUALITY IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE DOING IT IN-HOUSE COMPARED TO OTHER HOUSE. YOU THINK QUALITY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UP STAFF A LITTLE BIT.

AND ALSO, I THINK THEY AREN'T BIDING THEIR TIME, LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY.

THERE THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISHING TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALL IN FAVOR. AND HE OPPOSES PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER 10.

[10. Consideration of the lift station telemetry solar panel project and the appropriation of funds on the next scheduled Budget Amendment ($20,130).]

BEN. FIVE EIGHTY 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

HAD RAW SEWAGE GO INTO THE ST.

JOHN'S RIVER, WE HAD RAW SEWAGE GOING INTO TURKEY CREEK.

YET THE RESTRICTIONS ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS FOR THE HOMEOWNER OR THEIR OWN SEPTIC SYSTEM IS ASTRONOMICAL INTO COMPARISONS FOR THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTION THAT THE CITY.

THEY DIDN'T ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.

IT HAPPENED THAT GOT OUT TO THE CITY, INTO THE TWO ESTUARIES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANKS. THAT'S A CASUALTY THAT HAPPENED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S JUST ONE MORE TIME WHERE I'M SAYING RESTRICTIONS ON ONE GROUP OF SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON ANOTHER GROUP IS NOT A SEVERE. HOWEVER, WITH THE PENALTY PHASE OF THIS AND OF THIS INFRACTION THAT THE CITY HAD TO PUT IN OR HAD TO PAY, THE INFRACTION WAS MORE THAN FAIR.

WHAT THE CITY CAME UP WITH FOR THE.

WHY IN A COUPLE OF SOLAR PANELS IS IS A GOOD EXCHANGE INSTEAD OF THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID OUT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE PRIVATE HOMEOWNER DOESN'T GET THAT SAME LITTLE RIDE OFF LIKE THE CITY DID. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THE OUTCOME OF THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A POLLUTANT, THE OUTCOME OF THE PENALTY PHASE SHOWS A LOT OF BRAVO, ZULU'S OR JOBS WELL DONE FOR THE CITY STAFF TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT LIKE THAT WITH THE EPA.

THAT WAS A GOOD THING.

AND I THINK THE CREDIT ON THIS ONE GOES TO THAT STAFF MEMBER THAT ACCOMPLISHED THAT OBJECTIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. RANDALL WILL TRY TO GET IT RIGHT.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WELL, THERE'S NO RIDDLE.

COME ON. COME ON UP IS.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMAN. MY NAME IS RANDALL OLSZEWSKI.

I RESIDE AT 227000 CIRCLE, NORTHEAST CHAYEFSKY.

SIR, WE'VE GOT A STINKY SITUATION ON OUR HANDS HERE WITH THIS ITEM, RIGHT? STINKY SITUATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO MR. BATTON SENTIMENTS AS FAR AS COMMENDING THE STAFF FOR THEIR EXPEDITIOUS RESPONSE, GETTING WITH THE STATE AGENCY RIGHT AWAY, HANDLING THE BUSINESS.

SO, SO GOOD JOB THE STAFF.

KUDOS TO THEM. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF WE DO THIS PROJECT IN LIEU OF PAYING OUR FINES, ARE WE STILL WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO BUILD THE ONE COMPANY WITH THE BIGGER FINE FOR THE ROUGHLY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE HAD PLANNED TO TO INVOICE THEM FOR? IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THE FINE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE STILL COLLECT FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS? MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE THESE SEVEN SITES? WHICH LIFT STATIONS ARE GOING TO GET THIS RETROFIT AND NOT TO PILE IT ON HERE, BUT HOW MANY SITES DOES THAT LEAVE US WITHIN THE CITY THAT COULD STILL BENEFIT FROM THESE RETROFITS? AND IF TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, WE DO BRING UP A KIND OF WELL VERSED MEMBER OF STAFF, I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND THE DIRECT BENEFIT OF THIS OUTFIT FOR FUTURE INSTANCES. IF A LIVE STATION IN THE AREA WAS FIT IN THIS MANNER, WOULD IT HAVE PREVENTED FORTY TWO THOUSAND GALLONS OF RAW SEWAGE GOING INTO THE TURKEY CREEK AND OR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON? I LOOK FORWARD TO THE ANSWERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MANY SHERMAN TO START WITH KNOW THE 42000 GALLONS, UNFORTUNATELY, WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE PREVENTED BECAUSE A CONTRACTOR DIGGING IN THE GROUND HIT OUR LINE. SO THAT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.

AND TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE RECOVERY, WE'RE GOING TO MAXIMIZE OUR RECOVERY WITH THEM.

THEY TOOK OWNERSHIP IMMEDIATELY.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN RESPONSIVE.

WE'LL ASK OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, CHRIS LITTLE TO COME UP.

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I DON'T KNOW. GET YOUR POINT.

WE HAVE SEVEN ELDO STATIONS CLOSE TO AROUND THE TURKEY CREEK AREA THAT WE HAVE PRIORITIZED FOR THESE ESOLAR BACKUPS.

I'LL LET CHRIS TALK ABOUT WHAT OTHERS MIGHT BE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING AND ALSO WITH THE BENEFITS OF THIS WILL BE FOR US.

SO THE SEVEN THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING ARE LOCATED UP AND DOWN U.S.

ONE, WHETHER IT'S NEAR TURKEY CREEK, WE HAVE ONE LIMITATION LIMITATION 48 THAT IS IN THE TURKEY CREEK AREA.

AND IT'S LIE LOW, LOW LYING.

WE ALSO HAVE ONE RIGHT ON PALM BAY ROAD IN US, ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO LIFT STATION 47, WHICH IS RIGHT ON TURKEY CREEK THAT HAS HAD AN ISSUE IN THE PAST WITH OVERFLOWS WERE PUT OUT THERE. SO THEY'RE PEPPERED UP AND DOWN THE COAST, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR SPILLS IN ORDER TO TAKE ALL OF THEM.

WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE LIFT STATIONS.

SO IF IT'S GOING TO COST US, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO SEVEN SPREAD OUT OVER ONE HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT MORE.

IT'D BE PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MORE CRITICAL.

WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST AND THEY ARE RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE COAST.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT THE BENEFIT IS, WHAT THIS WILL DO FOR US? THE BENEFIT IS, IS THAT RIGHT NOW, THE ONES THAT DO NOT HAVE EMERGENCY POWER, THEY HAVE LITTLE BATTERIES IN THEM THAT THAT THE RADIO TRANSMISSION UNITS THAT COMMUNICATE WITH US THAT TELL US WHERE THE PUMPS ARE ON OUR OFF.

IT ONLY LASTS A COUPLE HOUR.

IF WE A COUPLE HOURS.

IF WE LOSE POWER WITH THE SOLAR, WE WOULD HAVE IT INDEFINITELY OPERATING AND WE WOULD GET THE COMMUNICATIONS BACK AND FORTH.

SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT LITTLE STATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALSO. NEED EMOTIONAL.

MOTION TO APPROVE CONSIDERATION OF THE LIFT STATION TELEMETRY SOLAR PANEL PROJECT AND THE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED BUDGET AMENDMENT TWENTY THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED THIRTY DOLLARS. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSE, AS IS UNANIMOUSLY.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE GO ON TO RECOGNITION'S AND PROCLAMATION'S.

FIVE MINUTES. I'M GOING TO PULL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

SO WE'RE ON THE.

[RECOGNITIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS]

RECOGNITION'S AND PROCLAMATION'S PORTION OF OUR AGENDA AND WHAT'S EXCITING IS I'M GOING TO READ A PROCLAMATION REGARDING THE MEMORIAL DAY.

WHEN I RESEARCHED THIS A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVEN'T HAD A PROCLAMATION OR ANY IN THIS CITY REGARDING MEMORIAL DAY SINCE 1999, AND THAT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE, UNACCEPTABLE IN MY VIEW. SO I'VE ASKED FOR THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 117 TO STEP FORWARD.

YES, SIR. THANKS FOR COMING.

NOTICE IN PROCLAMATION OF MEMORIAL DAY, MAY 31ST, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE MAYOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THAT WHEREAS MEMORIAL DAY, ORIGINALLY CALLED DECORATION DAY, IS A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE FOR THOSE WHO DIED IN OUR NATION'S SERVICE.

AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF OUR NATION'S HISTORY AND THOSE WHO PAID THE PRICE FOR FREEDOM WITH THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE OF THEIR LIVES.

WHEREAS MEMORIAL DAY WAS FIRST OBSERVED ON MAY 30 OF 1868, WHEN FLOWERS WERE PLACED ON THE GRAVES OF UNION AND CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY, AND VETERANS EVERYWHERE HAVE PROVEN THEIR DEDICATION TO THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE, WHICH IS INDICATIVE OF A STRONG DESIRE TO PRESERVE OUR PRICELESS IDEALS OF LIBERTY AND FREEDOM.

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AND WHEREAS MEMORIAL DAY ON MEMORIAL DAY, WE COLLECTIVELY PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF REFERENCE, REFLECTING ON THE COURAGE OF THOSE WHO ANSWERED WHEN CALLED BY OUR NATION.

TO BEAR ARMS, TO PROTECT THEM PRESERVES OUR IDEALS OF DEMOCRACY.

THE AMERICAN LEGION POST WON 117, ALONG WITH THE WOMEN'S AUXILIARY, PROVIDE A VENUE TO OUR CITIZENS TO OBSERVE THIS SACRIFICE, WHEREAS MEMORIAL DAY IS A CHERISHED TRADITION IN OUR NATION AND ITS OBSERVANCE HELPS US TO APPRECIATE OUR HISTORY.

REMIND US THAT THOSE WE REMEMBER ON THIS DAY PLACED THEIR PRECIOUS BLOOD ON THE ALTAR OF FREEDOM. TO SAFEGUARD OUR RIGHTS, TO SAFEGUARD OUR LIBERTIES AGAINST ALL OUR ENEMIES, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

TO OUR GREAT NATION, FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, THEY SHALL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

NOW, THEREFORE, I WANT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON EARTH, PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY TO SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE MAY 31ST AS MEMORIAL DAY AND URGE OUR CITIZENS TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THIS SPECIAL OCCASION, WHICH IS CELEBRATED ANNUALLY, ANNUALLY THROUGHOUT THE NATION ON THIS DATE.

AND WHICH CELEBRATION IS AN INCENTIVE FOR EVERY AMERICAN TO REAFFIRM HIS OR HER LOVE FOR OUR FLAG AND FOR OUR COUNTRY? I ALSO URGE ALL INDIVIDUALS, SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS AND PRIVATE RESIDENTS TO DISPLAY PROUDLY THE FLAG OF THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC PATRIOTIC MEMORIAL DAY ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I HAVE GONE TO SET MY HAND AND CALLS THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED ON THIS 20TH DAY OF MAY 2000 AND 2001.

AND I'LL ASK THE COMMANDER TO STEP FORWARD AND RECEIVE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND INVITE YOU ALL TO COME WITH US ON THE TWENTY NINTH AT EIGHT THIRTY IN THE MORNING TO FOUNTAINHEAD CEMETERY TO PLACE FLAGS ON EVERY VETERAN'S GRAVE IN THAT CEMETERY.

I ALSO INVITE YOU TO JOIN US ON SATURDAY WHERE WE LET THE BOY SCOUTS HONOR VETERANS DAY.

AND THEN ON THE 31ST, WE HAVE AN EVENT AT THE POST AND YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO JOIN US.

BUT YOUNG LADY.

THE CHIEF IS THE NAVY CHIEF.

HE SEEMS TO CHOOSE TO CHOOSE TO GO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE SHALL NEVER FORGET.

HELLO, EVERYONE. I'LL BE PRESENTING THE SMALL BUSINESS MONTH PROCLAMATION.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS THE NATION'S 30 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES CREATE NEARLY TWO OUT OF THREE JOBS IN OUR ECONOMY, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECOGNIZES THE NEED TO SUPPORT LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS THAT CREATE JOBS AND SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND WHEREAS FROM THE STOREFRONT SHOPS THAT ANCHOR OUR RETAIL CORRIDORS TO THE HIGH TECH STARTUPS THAT KEEP PALM BAY ON THE CUTTING EDGE, SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND THE CORNERSTONE CORNERSTONES OF OUR NATION'S PROMISE.

AND WE'RE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, SUPPORT ECONOMIES, EMPLOY RESIDENTS, ENCOURAGE YOUTH ENTREPRENEURSHIP, ENGAGE IN PHILANTHROPIC AND CIVIC CAMPAIGNS, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE

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VIBRANCY OF PALM BAY NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

AND WHEREAS WHEN WE SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES, NEW JOBS ARE CREATED AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES THRIVE AND PROSPER.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY CONTINUES TO HONOR THE ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT AND CELEBRATE LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY GREAT.

NOW, THEREFORE, I DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF RON MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY TWENTY TWENTY ONE AS SMALL BUSINESSMEN IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND CALL UPON ALL RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR COMMUNITIES, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THE KEY ROLE THEY PLAY IN KEEPING OUR ECONOMY STRONG.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE AND TO SET MY HAND AND CALLS THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SIXTH DAY OF MAY.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

LISA, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU STEP FORWARD AS A CHAMBER PRESIDENT TO TAKE A PHOTO OP WITH OUR DEPUTY? SHE JUST HAD A BIRTHDAY.

SHE JUST HAD A BIRTHDAY.

SO HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY.

I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT, THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, OUR FUNCTION REALLY IS TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF NEW MEMBERS JOIN US.

AND THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS WHAT MAKES PALM BAY GROW AND THRIVE.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE RECOGNIZING THAT THAT WE ARE GROWING AND PALM BAY IS THRIVING. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO PULL OUT THIS NAME AND I I'M PRAYERFUL THAT I DON'T PUT YOU THE NAME, BUT TOM HAS NIKKI.

YEAH, THEY ARE.

AND MCDONNEL IN ROBERT TRIBLE.

SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK, WOW, THERE WERE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL SAILORS HERE TODAY.

YOU MUST BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

A SHALLOW WATER COFFEE THAT NOTICE IN PROCLAMATION OF NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK, IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE MAYOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS MORE AND MORE AMERICANS ARE HEADING TOWARDS WAR, TO WATERWAYS, TO FOR RECREATION AND RELAXATION, AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR WATER ACTIVITIES EXPAND EACH YEAR, AND IT IS EVERYWHERE, AS IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT BOTH NOVICE AND EXPERIENCED VOTERS PRACTICE SAFE BOATING HABITS, WHICH INCLUDE PARTICIPATING IN A SAFE BOATING COURSE, ENSURING THAT THE VESSEL HAS PROPER EQUIPMENT, AND THAT ALL PASSENGERS WEAR A LIFE JACKET AND AVOID THE USE OF ALCOHOL.

THERE HAS TO BE A PAUSE, WHEREAS EVERY YEAR HUNDREDS OF LIVES ARE LOST IN BOATING ACCIDENTS, THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES CAN BE REDUCED AND BOATING MADE MORE PLEASURABLE IF BOATERS WOULD EXERCISE KNOWLEDGE, CARE AND COURTESY NECESSARY FOR SAFE BOATING.

WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD AUXILIARY FOCUSES ON BOATING SAFETY WITH EMPHASIS ON SAFE BOATING, EDUCATION CLASSES AND VESSEL SAFETY EXAMINATIONS.

AND WHEREAS THE SOUTH PROVIDE FLOTILLA 17 DEATHS TO UNITED STATES COAST GUARD AUXILIARY ANNUALLY PROVIDES VESSEL SAFETY EXAMINATIONS.

APPLEWHITE PARK. NOW, THEREFORE, I AM MEDINA MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 20 SECOND THROUGH MAY 28 AS NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS WHO BASE WHO USE OUR WATERWAYS TO ACQUIRE THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE ESSENTIAL TO PRACTICE SAFE BOATING IN WIDNES. HERE ON I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 20 DAY OF MAY 2021.

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MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY, WE, THE MEMBERS OF FLOTILLA'S 17 TO SOUTH BOVARD LOCATED HERE GRACIOUSLY AND FACILITIES PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.

AND WE INVITE ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO REACH OUT TO OUR FLOTILLA LOCATED AT FOURTEEN FIFTY FIVE MAIN STREET NE PALM BAY OR AT SOUTH BOVARD ONE SEVEN TWO AT GMAIL DOT COM TO SCHEDULE YOUR VOTER SAFETY EDUCATION TRAINING.

AND WE DO REMIND YOU TO ALWAYS WEAR A LIFE JACKET WHEN YOU'RE ON THE WATER AND DO NOT CONSUME ALCOHOL WHILE OPERATING A MOTOR BOAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND ALL THE. CITIZENS OF PALM BAY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE OUR BOATING SAFETY CLASSES THAT WE HAVE, WE TRY TO HAVE THEM AT LEAST ONCE EVERY OTHER MONTH.

SOMETIMES WE DO THEM EVERY MONTH IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE.

WE ALSO OFFER FREE VESSEL SAFETY INSPECTIONS AND COST ANYTHING.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO ALWAYS WEAR THE LIFE JACKET WHEN POSSIBLE.

OK, THANK YOU.

THERE WERE ON PRESENTATIONS AND I'LL DEFER TO MS.

[PRESENTATIONS]

SMITH. SMER MAY OF TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN, MICHOACÁN CAME BEFORE OUR COUNCIL AND WE DISCUSSED WHAT HE BELIEVED THAT HE AND HIS TEAM COULD DO FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY REGARDING DAMAGES THAT THE CITY HAD SUSTAINED BECAUSE OF THE OPIOID LITIGATION.

IT WAS FAIRLY EARLY ON IN THE LAWSUITS.

AND HE'S HERE TODAY, A FEW YEARS LATER.

HE'S BEEN HERE BEFORE AS FAR AS GIVING SOME UPDATES, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE TEAM TO TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE WITH THE OPL LITIGATION.

OUR PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE WERE WORKING ON WITH THE STATE, BUT I WON'T BRING HIM FORTH, BUT NO FURTHER ADO SO WE CAN HEAR FROM HIM WHERE WE ARE.

MR. KHAN.

MR. MAYOR, SERVICEMEN, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, I WAS VERY CONCERNED WHEN I I NOTICED THAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT BECAUSE HE WAS AN IMPORTANT FACET OF THE VOTE THAT WE GOT AS WELL.

BUT I WAS NOW I KNOW I HERE AND I'M GOING TO HEARING THEM ON AN EMBODIED VOICE THAT WILL REPRESENT A COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

BUT I WELCOME IT WAS IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.

AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME IT WAS VERY EARLY IN THE LITIGATION AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU ESPECIALLY WHO DON'T KNOW ME, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT I'M YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT. I'M UNDER RETAINER AS YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT LAWYER.

AND YOU KNEW AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PALM BAY FOR ROUGHLY ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW ON FOR VARIOUS FIRST AMENDMENT MATTERS.

IT WAS VERY EARLY, THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I WAS I WAS SOLICITED BY FORMER CITY COUNCIL AND NOW AND THEN PATRICIA TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY MADE A VERY COURAGEOUS CHOICE BECAUSE IT WAS EARLY IN THE LITIGATION AND I MADE THEM SEVERAL PROMISES AT THIS TIME, RELYING ON OUR PAST EQUITY TOGETHER. HERE'S WHAT I PROMISED THEM.

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I PROMISED THEM I TOLD THEM ABOUT THE OPIOID CRISIS.

I TOLD THEM THE STATISTICS OF HOW BAD IT REALLY WAS.

I PROMISED THEM THAT IF WE WERE RETAINED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THE RETENTION, WE WOULD FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THOSE WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE.

AND WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, WE AFTER THE VOTE WAS TAKEN, WE DID.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING I PROMISED HIM.

THE SECOND THING I PROMISED HIM, MS. SMITH MADE REFERENCE TO ANY TIME THAT THEY WANTED.

AND YOU ALL WANTED ME TO COME DOWN, WHICH WAS SEVERAL TIMES, ESPECIALLY EARLY, WHEN I KNEW A LOT ABOUT THE LITIGATION TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT I WOULD BE HERE.

THE THIRD THING I PROMISED THEM WAS THE GROUP.

I PROMISED THEM THAT THEY WERE THE GROUP REPRESENTING PALM BAY WOULD BE STELLAR AND WOULD BE PEERLESS AND AND THEY WERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS A CELEBRATION OF THAT PROMISE.

AND I COMMEND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND I'VE COMMENDED HIM BEFORE.

I COMMEND COMMISSIONER COUNCILMAN BAILEY, WHOM I CAN'T SAY, BUT I CAN'T SEE, BUT I CAN PROBABLY HEAR FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO BE A PART OF THAT VOTE.

I ALSO ONCE AGAIN WANT TO COMMEND PATRICIA SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT VOTE THAT NEEDED COURAGE, INTELLIGENCE AND DIRECT ANSWER.

AND SHE WAS THERE.

SHE WAS THERE. AND SO WHEN PATRICIA CALLED ME AND SHE SAID, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO COME DOWN AND INVITE YOU TO EXPLAIN THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE THE CITY, I SAID, PATRICIA, YOU HAVE ASKED EXACTLY THE WRONG PERSON, BECAUSE AFTERWARDS, AFTER SIGNING ULTIMATELY BEING INVOLVED IN SIGNING 16 JURISDICTIONS REPRESENTING AROUND FOUR MILLION FLORIDIANS, AND WE ARE THE LARGEST GROUP IN FLORIDA THAT BASICALLY REPRESENTS THAT.

MY JOB WAS DONE.

BUT THE GROUP THAT STEPPED IN THAT I PROMISED YOU THEIR JOB JUST BEGAN.

MR. RAMANO WILL COME UP HERE IN A MOMENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU HAVE ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

BUT ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU, IT WAS ABOUT NOVEMBER A YEAR AGO WE WERE INVITED UP TO MEET THE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF FLORIDA.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT SINCE THEN I'VE BEEN TRACKING EVERY EMAIL THAT'S BEEN COMING FROM THE GROUP. AND I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS QUITE A BATTLE THAT OUR GROUP AND MR. ROMANO AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE GROUP BATTLED AND THAT.

THAT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY WAS NOT GOING TO BE SCARFED UP LITERALLY BY THE STATE, ONE OF THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS AND THE TOBACCO LITIGATION, YOU WILL SEE THIS MONEY AND PART OF THE MONEY, AS MR. ROMANO IS GOING TO EXPLAIN FAR BETTER THAN I IS GOING TO BE LOCAL.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WE'RE NOT GOING TO REMAIN WITH JUST COMMERCIALS ON TELEVISIONS THAT ARE PAID.

IT'S GOING TO BE LOCAL FOR CERTAIN USAGES TO HELP THE THE ABATEMENT OF THE OPIOID CRISIS.

WITH THAT, I WANT TO PROUDLY BASICALLY TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO MR. ROMANO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND AGAIN, I HAVE FULFILLED MY WORD TO YOU ON THE PROMISES THAT I MADE FOR YOU.

AND I'M PROUD OF WHERE WE ARE.

AND NOW I TURN THIS PODIUM OVER TO MR. ROMANO. EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M.

I WAS RIGHT HERE WITH MICHAEL COHEN THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE MADE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION, AND I WANTED TO JUST GO THROUGH A FEW ITEMS BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, BECAUSE AS WE ARE SPEAKING TONIGHT, THERE ARE STILL NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON CONSTANTLY DAY AND NIGHT IN THIS.

AND THERE IS NO M0 YOU YET.

THERE IS NO AGREEMENT YET.

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IT IS ALL STILL IN THE WORKS.

BUT THE REASON WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COME HERE WAS TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, TO START GIVING DOCUMENTS TO YOU TO REVIEW SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE SOME FEEL FOR WHAT IS COMING.

THE FEDERAL JUDGE IN THE CASE, JUDGE POSTEN, UP IN CLEVELAND, HAS CLEARLY INDICATED AND THIS IS WHERE ALL OF THE SETTLEMENT TALKS HAVE GONE NOW WITH ALL OF THE STATES, WITH THE COUNTIES, WITH THE CITIES.

IT IS THE SETTLEMENT IS GOING TO BE MONEY FOR ABATEMENT OF THE OPIOID CRISIS AND THE DRUG PROBLEM IN AMERICA.

IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GO BACKWARDS AND TRIED TO MAKE AN IDENTIFICATION OR DETERMINATION OF WHAT THOSE DAMAGES WOULD BE.

WHEN THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR ABATEMENT AND THE JUDGE SAID THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL, THAT WOULD BE THE PRIORITY.

THAT WOULD BE THE NECESSITY.

AND IN DOCUMENTS, WHICH YOU SHOULD ALREADY HAVE.

BUT IF NOT, WE'LL SPEAK AND I'LL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE TO YOU RIGHT AWAY.

THERE IS A LIST OF APPROVED PRIORITIES AND PURPOSES.

IT'S CALLED THE CORE STRATEGIES, AND IT HAS ROUGHLY I'M JUST GOING TO ESTIMATE ABOUT 200 ITEMS ON THE LIST AS TO WHAT THE MONEY WILL GO TOWARDS BY THE MANAGING ENTITIES.

WHAT SHALL ADDRESS IN JUST A MINUTE.

ALL SO SO THE THE DAMAGES FROM THE SETTLEMENT ARE FOR PAYMENT TO ABATE THE CRISIS, AS AN ASIDE, I KNOW THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO DIRECTLY WITH WITH THE CASE RIGHT NOW.

THERE HAPPENS TO BE A RATHER EXTRAORDINARY FOUR HOUR SPECIAL IN TWO PARTS ON HBO ABOUT THE OPIOID CRISIS AND PARDOO, THE MAIN DEFENDANT IN THE CASE, AND WHY IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO GO AFTER PURDUE BECAUSE IT WAS A DRUG RUNNING CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.

IT CANNOT BE SUGAR COATED AND THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING ON.

ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT IN THIS SETTLEMENT.

ALL CITIES, COUNTIES ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED.

SOME HAVE SAID, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, PALM BAY GETS INVOLVED EARLY ON, HIS LAWYERS FILED SUIT EARLY. WHY IS IT THAT IF PALM BAY IS A CITY THAT FAR IS A PART OF THE LITIGATION, ALONG WITH OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES AND STATES, HOW IS IT THAT ALL CITIES GET INCLUDED? THE COURT HAS DETERMINED AS A PART OF THE SETTLEMENT THERE NEEDS TO BE HELP FOR EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE. THEREFORE, MONIES ARE GOING TO GO EVEN TO THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES THAT DID NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE LITIGATION.

HOWEVER, IN THE MEETINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN TO OR THAT ANYONE ON OUR TEAM HAS ATTENDED, IT IS THE LAWYERS WHO ARE REPRESENTING THE CITIES AND COUNTIES WHO ARE THE ONES AT THE TABLE. AND FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE OTHERS, THE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES.

SO BY HAVING REPRESENTATION, YOU HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE IN TERMS OF AT LEAST BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH ALL OF THE OTHERS, AS WELL AS WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THROUGH THE COURT IN UP IN CLEVELAND.

MANY WOULD SAY, WELL, IF IT'S A CASE FILED IN ORDER TO RECOVER DAMAGES, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME TYPE OF A LUMP SUM CASH PAYMENT MADE TO A CITY, TO A STATE TO OR COUNTY? NOT IN THE SENSE OF A NORMAL CASH PAYMENT IN A LITIGATED CASE.

IN THIS INSTANCE, IT WILL ALL BE PLACED INTO THE HANDS OF THESE MANAGING ENTITIES, WHICH ARE THEN GOING TO CARRY OUT ACTIVITIES TO ABATE AND ABATE AND ABATE.

IT WILL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT LIST, WHICH WE CAN SEND TO YOU.

AND THAT IS A LIST.

THAT IS A GROWING LIST.

THERE ARE. THE ALLOCATIONS, BY THE WAY, ARE NOT FINAL.

THAT IS ALL STILL BEING DISCUSSED.

WE DO HAVE TWO RECENT LETTERS THAT WE SENT TO YOU, AND I NEVER KNOW IF THEY GET TO YOU OR NOT, BUT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SEPARATE PACKETS FOR EVERYONE IF THAT WOULD HELP AND GET THOSE RIGHT UP TO YOU.

AND I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE OF ASSISTANCE, BECAUSE THEN I CAN COME BACK IN A FEW WEEKS WHEN MORE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE BEEN SOLIDIFIED, THERE WILL BE THREE BASIC WHAT THEY CALL BUCKETS OF FUNDS OR BASKETS OF FUNDS.

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ONE IS CALLED THE CITY SLASH COUNTY BUCKET.

THE SECOND ONE IS CALLED THE REGIONAL BUCKET, THE THIRD BUCKET IS REFERRED TO AS THE STATE BUCKET. SO AS FUNDS ARE DISTRIBUTED FROM THE IN ESSENCE THROUGH THE FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM UP IN CLEVELAND, OHIO.

FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED TO GO INTO THESE BUCKETS FOR DISTRIBUTION, FOR PAYMENT.

OF THE ABATEMENT OF THESE ITEMS ON THE LIST AND 15 PERCENT.

OF THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE GOING INTO WHAT IS CALLED THE CITY COUNTY BUCKET THEN, AND THERE WILL BE CRITERIA SET UP, SUCH AS THE AMOUNT.

OF OPIOIDS, WHICH HAD BEEN SHIPPED TO A GIVEN CITY OR COUNTY DURING A PERIOD OF TIME, ANOTHER ONE WILL BE THE NUMBER OF OPIOID DEATHS IN A GIVEN CITY OR COUNTY, AND ANOTHER WILL BE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHERE IT CAN BE CONFIRMED OR VERIFIED THROUGH DATA.

WHO HAD OPIOID USE DISORDER? THE. A REGIONAL FUND.

IS A FUND WHERE MONEY WILL ACTUALLY GO TO CERTAIN COUNTIES, COUNTIES WITH 300000 PEOPLE OR MORE. SUCH AS BREVARD COUNTY.

AND WHATEVER HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY? WILL BE DETERMINED NOT JUST BY SOMEBODY SAYING, HERE'S WHERE IT GOES.

PALM BAY. WE'LL HAVE A SAY.

AND WHAT HAPPENS TO CERTAIN OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE MONEYS AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE PALM BAY IS A MORE SIZABLE CITY AND PALM BAY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE LITIGATION AND BECAUSE OF THE MIRROR YOUR POPULATION, IT GIVES YOU A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

ROUGHLY 30 TO 40 PERCENT, AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE PERCENTAGES OF THE OVERALL SETTLEMENT, MONEY WILL BE GOING TO THESE TO THE REGIONAL FUNDS AND THEN FINALLY STATE FUNDS WHICH GO DIRECTLY TO THE STATE.

NOW. THE MONEY GOING TO THE CITIES AND COUNTIES WILL STAY WITH THEM AND IT WON'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE. THE MONEY GOING INTO THE REGIONAL FUND PART OF THAT WILL ULTIMATELY COME TO CITIES INCLUDING PALM BAY AND THE STATE FUNDS.

STATE PROGRAMS, OBVIOUSLY, ARE PROGRAMS FOR CITIZENS IN OUR CITIES AND COUNTIES.

SO MORE OF THAT WILL COME IN.

AND THE KEY IS WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PALM BAY IS POSITIONED SO THAT PALM BAY HAS A SEAT AT THE TABLE CONSTANTLY THROUGHOUT THIS.

AND WE WILL BE A PART OF THAT AND HELP IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.

THE I THINK THAT IS IT IN A NUTSHELL.

THE ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, WE DID SEND THE LETTERS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD HELP IF WE HAD A NICE PACKAGE FOR EACH ONE OF YOU WHICH HAS THESE LETTERS.

AND THEN WE CAN UPDATE THAT CONTINUOUSLY BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TALKS AND NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

ALSO, THE PART OF THE SETTLEMENT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE PART WITH JOHNSON AND JOHNSON AND THE DISTRIBUTORS, WE DON'T KNOW YET THE COMPANIES THAT ARE IN BANKRUPTCY EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE MONIES.

BUT THERE WILL BE LIKELY MANY MORE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER DEFENDANTS AGAINST WHOM THE CASES ARE STILL PROCEEDING, SUCH AS DRUGSTORES, DRUGSTORE CHAINS AND SO.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT THAT I WANTED TO COVER AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS AND I'LL DO WHAT I CAN DO TO ANSWER THOSE. AND IF I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TONIGHT, WE WILL GET YOU THE ANSWER AND WE WILL GET IT PROMPTLY.

AND ONE REASON I SAY THAT, SO YOU'LL KNOW THIS ON OUR TEAM.

WE HAVE LAWYERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND OTHER STATES AND ONE OF THE LAW FIRMS IN OUR LAW FIRM CONSORTIUM REPRESENTING PALM BAY, SITS AS LEIA'S ON COUNSEL ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE IN THE FEDERAL LITIGATION.

THAT LAWYER, MEANING OUR TEAM, IS AT THE SEAT IN THE FEDERAL COURT CASE DAY IN AND DAY OUT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET A LOT OF OUR INFORMATION FROM.

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SO WITH THAT, I HOPE THAT HELPS.

IF HE MEDINA JOHNSON FIRST ALBUM, I WAS EXCITED FOR THIS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I APPRECIATE YOU, MR. KHAN. AND I REMEMBER WE ALL CAME HERE AND SPOKE WITH JORDAN CHANDLER AS WELL TO HAVE PALM BAY TAKE THE FIRST STEP IN THIS.

AND I'M NOT DISCOURAGED AT ALL BY OTHER CITIES GETTING A PEACE BECAUSE CITIES ALL OVER THE NATION HAVE SUFFERED FROM THIS.

SO AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T GIVE ME HOW MUCH, BUT MY I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON.

AND THAT WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST WE GET A LARGER SUM OR POTENTIALLY A LARGER, LARGER SUM COMING FORWARD OR POTENTIALLY.

YES, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS BY BUT HAVING THE TEAM PUSH THE CASE IN THE DIRECTION OF TRYING TO GET MORE OF A BENEFIT.

BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY HAPPEN, BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST GOT STARTED. NO QUESTION, THE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD IN MIND IS IF AND WHEN THERE IS A SETTLEMENT, IT LIKELY WOULD BE A POT OF MONEY THAT GOES TO THE STATES.

SOME WOULD GO TO COUNTIES, SOME WOULD GO TO CITIES.

IT IS AS IT IS TURNED DOWN.

THE JUDGE HAS DETERMINED THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS CAN WORK.

BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE CRISIS AND THEREFORE THE JUDGE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO THE ABATEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION INSTEAD, AND THE POT OF MONEY DOES NOT WORK. SO IT HAS TO BE DOLED OUT TO THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES WHO WILL SPEND THE MONEY IN FLORIDA IN ORDER TO PUSH FORWARD THESE PROGRAMS. THANK YOU, CARRY ON.

I'M SORRY, I CARRY ON.

ALL RIGHT, OK, I'M GOING GET ALL MY OUT NOW AND THEN I'LL BE GONE.

AND THEN REGARDING CITY, COUNTY, REGIONAL, STATE OR REGIONAL, I KNOW THAT ME AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, MISS PATRICIA, BACK IN JANUARY OF TWENTY TWENTY OR TWENTY NINETEEN, IT WAS A WHILE AGO WE MET WITH REGION FOUR WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HER STAFF.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REGION, IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE A MEETING LIKE THAT WHERE WE WORK OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE MAVERICK COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE LOOKING AT DIVISION? THE FUNDS OR THE REGION WOULD BE COUNTY AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A BIGGER REGION WITH WHAT IS CALLED A MANAGING ENTITY, AND THAT WOULD BE SEVERAL COUNTIES THAT HASN'T BEEN FULLY WORKED OUT YET. BUT BUT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE ON THAT.

AND SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS HAVE COME IN ON THAT SO THAT I COULD LET YOU KNOW.

BUT YES, IT'S THE COUNTY AND THEN ABOVE THAT, THE MANAGING ENTITIES AND THE COUNTY.

CAN I JUST CHIME IN ON THAT? IF IF WE DO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND WE DO HAVE INPUT, I'D LIKE FOR US TO BE INCLUDED IN THE WITH THE SMALLER COUNTIES LIKE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY AND BEYOND THAT, THAT'LL GIVE US A LARGER POPULATION BASE WOULD BE MY MY THEORY.

WELL, I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN PUSH THAT CONCEPT, WE CAN TELL THEM THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WE CAN NEGOTIATE FOR THAT.

THERE IS STILL ROOM TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.

I WILL SAY THIS THERE THE THIS FEDERAL JUDGE SEEMS TO HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY ATTITUDE OF TRYING TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS BEST.

IT'S BEEN A MARVELOUS THING TO WATCH.

AND AND THE WAY THAT HE HAS DONE IT HAS BEEN RATHER EXTRAORDINARY.

AND HE MOVED IT FASTER.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE THINKING IT IS GOING TO TAKE WAY LONGER, BUT HE STOPPED BASICALLY HIS WORLD AND DID THIS.

SO THAT IS THE LAST QUESTION.

I'M WORKING MY WAY DOWN FROM CITY, COUNTY, REGIONAL TO STATE.

SO FOR STATE, WOULD THAT BE OUR BOVARD DELEGATION, OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND OUR SENATE THERE WILL BE FIGHTING FOR THOSE DOLLARS FOR OUR AREA? OR IS THAT TOO EARLY? THE ANSWER IS YES.

AND I WOULD SAY ALWAYS YES TO THAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO YOUR SENATOR, YOUR STATE HOUSE MEMBER, AND SAY WE NEED YOUR HELP IN TALLAHASSEE WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE BECAUSE IT IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO WILL BE HANDLING EVERYTHING ON BEHALF OF THE STATE AND OBVIOUSLY THROUGH THE FOLKS THAT SHE DELEGATES TO DO THAT.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WILL STAY INVOLVED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY TO BE THERE, TO NOT ONLY GIVE YOU INFORMATION, BUT TO BE A PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP.

AND I AND THERE WILL BE ISSUES THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO POP UP NOT ONLY OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS, BUT PROBABLY YEARS.

THE PAYOUT, BY THE WAY, UNDER THIS SYSTEM.

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IT'S AN 18 YEAR PAYOUT.

AND YES, IT IS SOMEWHAT FRONT LOADED, BUT THE ONLY WAY IT COULD BE WORKED OUT AND STILL ALLOW SOME OF THESE COMPANIES TO HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS IS TO DO IT OVER TIME. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS, AT LEAST TENTATIVELY SET UP NOW.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING THE CITY, I WAS HERE THAT COUNCILMAN ME, I WAS IN THE AUDIENCE WASN'T A COUNCIL MEMBER I WAS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE.

I CAME IN AT PALM BAY TO JOIN THIS LAWSUIT, START THE LAWSUIT.

REALLY? I THINK WE WERE THE ONLY CITY.

AM I CORRECT AT THAT POINT? YES. AND.

THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME.

WE WAS FIRST WE STEP WE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND I BELIEVE WE HIT A HOME RUN.

THEN. YOU WANTED, YOU KNOW, ROUND THE BASES, SO TO SPEAK, TO ONE, WANT TO KNOCK YOU OVER AND AROUND THE BASE BEFORE YOU COULD GET TO FIRST BASE.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN I'M TRYING TO SAY IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT DIDN'T STEP UP, DON'T HAVE NO SKIN IN THE GAME.

SOME OF THEM ARE BASED BATEMAN'S.

AND MY CONCERN IS WE DON'T GET OUR FAIR SHARE.

I KNOW THIS IS NOT A JOHNSON PALM BAY PROBLEM IS AMERICA PROBLEM, AND I'M ALL FOR HELPING EVERY AMERICAN, EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN THIS COUNTRY SUFFER FROM.

OPIATE CRISIS, MORE FOR THAT, AND I'M GLAD THE CITY IS LEADING THE WAY AND WE SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY FOR.

I MEAN, WE I WAS THERE THAT NIGHT, IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION.

I WAS PRAYING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED AND THEY DID, BUT.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COUNTY, CITY, A REGION.

WHO MAKES THAT DECISION, WHO THIS COUNCIL MAKE THAT DECISION, OR DO THE COUNTY COMMISSION MAKE THAT DECISION? WELL, AS FAR AS THE THE DOLLARS COMING INTO THE REGION, WHICH WILL BE THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WILL BE DIVIDED INTO SEVEN REGIONS THAT WILL BE DONE BY A COMMITTEE WHERE THE GOVERNOR IS APPOINTING SOMEONE TO THE COMMITTEE.

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, APPOINT SOMEBODY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL BE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

BUT WE WILL HAVE INPUT WITH THAT COMMITTEE.

I WILL SAY THIS, WHEN WE HAVE GONE MOST OF THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN IN TALLAHASSEE, BUT SOME ELSEWHERE.

I'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HERSELF IS SITTING RIGHT THERE.

SHE IS AT THE MEETINGS AND IS LISTENING TO US.

AND I AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, MOST PEOPLE HAVE PUT POLITICS ASIDE AND BEEN ABLE TO SIT DOWN BECAUSE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AT THOSE MEETINGS, PEOPLE ARE EVERYWHERE POLITICALLY.

AND YET THE MEETINGS HAVE HAVE GONE WELL.

SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS, YOU WILL HAVE SOME SAY SO IN WHO GETS ON THESE COMMITTEES.

I IN PART, LOBBYING OTHER PEOPLE, COMMUNICATING WITH OTHERS AND SAYING WE WANT THIS PERSON, WE DON'T WANT THAT PERSON.

AND IT WILL BE LIKE THAT.

BUT IT WILL. IF ALL I CAN SAY IS IT'S SOMEWHAT LIKE IN A CLASS ACTION CASE, THIS IS NOT A CLASS ACTION, BUT WHERE SOMEONE SEES A HORRIBLE WRONG THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED TO JUST, SAY, 10000 PEOPLE IN AMERICA.

AND A LAWSUIT IS FILED WELL, WHEN THE JUDGE FINALLY MAKES A DECISION OR A JURY MAKES A DECISION AND THE ALLOCATION IS MADE ON EACH OF THE 10000 CASES.

THAT MONEY GOES TO PEOPLE.

YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LITIGATION, OFTEN THEY GET SOMETHING IN THE MAIL AND SAYS, BY THE WAY, THERE'S A CASE AND YOU'RE NOW GOING TO BE GETTING SOME MONEY FROM THE CASE.

SO THEY GET THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T WORK FOR IT, SOMEBODY ELSE DID.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH, I GOT A LOT OF SEVEN DOLLAR CHECKS IN THE MAIL.

I KNOW.

I KNOW. OK, BUT MY MY CONCERN IS.

WE GETTING OUR FAIR SHARE OF OUR ABATEMENTS AND BECAUSE THIS THING YOU SAID 18 YEARS,

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YES, IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND A LONG TIME, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR CITIZENS ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF. SO PLEASE, I KNOW YOU WILL DO YOUR BEST.

JUST HEARING YOUR VOICE, I GOT A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN YOUR REPRESENTATION.

YOU'VE DONE COUNCILMAN, FOSTER, DONE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

YES, I AM. THERE'S ONE I WANTED TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY TO YOU.

AND THESE ARE WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IN THE BACKGROUND IS MONITORING VIRTUALLY EVERY EMAIL THAT'S BEEN GOING IN BETWEEN JOHN'S GROUP, WHICH IS OUR GROUP AND EVERYONE.

AND ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, IT REALLY IMPRESSED ME ABOUT JOHN JOHN'S PART IN THIS, AND THAT IS THIS.

AND I KNOW PATRICIA CAN VOUCH FOR THIS WAS WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IS ONCE WE WERE SIGNED AND SIGNED YOU UP.

THE COMMUNICATION, HOW IS IT GOING TO BE HANDLED WHEN I KNEW THAT I WASN'T GOING TO BE IN THE FOREFRONT OF THE MEETINGS AND THE THING THAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME WAS JOHN HAD HIRED VIRTUALLY.

ONE OR MORE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE SOLE JOB WAS TO COMMUNICATE TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR CLIENTS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, NOW, THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WHICH I'M GOING TO GET TO IN A SECOND.

BUT THAT IMPRESSED THE HECK OUT OF ME.

AND LET ME RELAX INTERNALLY BECAUSE IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE, THE FOLLOW THROUGH THAT THIS GROUP THAT I HAD PROMISED YOU WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE INDIVIDUAL THAT JOHN WAS TALKING ABOUT AT THE PEAK AT RIGHT AT THE TOP IS PETER WEINBERGER, WHO IS REALLY A LIAISON IN THIS CASE.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOU RHETORICALLY SPEAKING.

OK, SO IMAGINE A GROUP THAT'S NEGOTIATING THE AMOUNT BETWEEN THE AND AS JOHN HAS SAID, THERE'S THREE BUCKETS.

AND IMAGINE THAT THERE'S A GROUP THAT NEGOTIATING THE AMOUNT THAT'S GOING TO BE SHARED IN ONE OF THE BUCKETS BETWEEN IN THE REGION, BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIES.

OK, JUST IMAGINE AND IMAGINE THAT WE HAVE A PERSON LIKE JOHN WHO'S ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE MEETING AND HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THERE.

OK, AS FAR AS THAT GOES, AND THEN IMAGINE COUNCILMAN.

A CITY WHO HAS NEVER APPEARED AT ANY MEETING.

ANY MEETING, DO YOU SEE MY POINT, MY POINT IS YOU HAVE A NEGOTIATING ADVANTAGE RIGHT THERE BECAUSE A CITY CAN JUST POP INTO A MEETING AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE BETWEEN ITSELF AND THE COUNTY, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BARELY EVEN RECOGNIZED.

NOW, IN THE TIME THAT I WAS NEGOTIATING AND SIGNING UP JURISDICTIONS, WHICH THERE WERE MANY, AND I WENT TO LITERALLY TENS AND TWENTIES AND THIRTIES OF, I PUT ON TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND MILES IN MY IN MY CAR JUST GOING TO DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS.

HERE'S THE POINT. IN ONE JURISDICTION, WE WERE ONLY NOT HIRED BY ONE OF THE SIX OF THE 17. AND I WAS MONITORING THAT COMMUNICATION THAT WAS BEING GIVEN TO THE GOVERNING BODY AND I LOOKED AT THAT COMMUNICATION AND I HAD MADE A PRESENTATION, IT WAS TOTALLY ERRONEOUS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THEIR INFORMATION.

SO IMAGINE THAT ENTITY AT A TABLE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE BASE OF JOHN ROMANO AND THE PEOPLE LIKE HIM.

DO YOU SEE MY POINT THERE? I GUESS SO.

IN IN OTHER WORDS, ONE OF THE INCREDIBLE ADVANTAGES, BECAUSE MS. SMITH AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUESTION, OK, THAT THIS WOULD COME UP TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOTALLY INEXPERIENCED AND INCORRECT IN MANY OF THE WAYS THEY'RE APPROACHING THE NEGOTIATING WHEN EVERYBODY'S GOING TO RECOGNIZE JOHN AND HIS TEAM AND OUR TEAM WHEN THEY WALK IN THE DOOR.

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DO YOU SEE MY POINT THERE? IT'S IT'S A HUGE ADVANTAGE, WHICH GOES RIGHT TO YOUR QUESTION OF AN ENTITY WHO HASN'T BEEN REPRESENTED AND THINKS WITH A BIG I THINK, OH, WELL, WE'RE GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. WELL, THE THAT THE NEGOTIATION FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKEN AS SERIOUSLY AS JOHN ROMANO IS WITH REGARD TO THE NEGOTIATIONS AND THE NUANCES OF THE NEGOTIATIONS AS REFLECTING PALM BAY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT POINT? FROM MY PERSPECTIVE? I DO UNDERSTAND AND I THINK YOU GOT MY ANALOGY OF THE BASEBALL, BUT MY CONCERN IS, IS POLITICS. THIS THIS OPAQUE.

WHAT GEORGIA IS DOING IS HISTORIC IN NATURE BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND.

I WAS THERE WITH THE CANCER, THE BREAST CANCER LAWSUIT.

I, I PROTECTED A JUDGE AND TEXARKANA.

WELL, THE TOBACCO LAWSUIT, I'VE BEEN THERE BECAUSE AS MY JOB AS A U.S.

MARSHAL, I'VE BEEN SAID IN MANY COURTROOMS AND.

MORE THAN I CARE TO COUNT HERE, THESE LOSSES, AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE POP UP OUT OF NOWHERE, GET A PIECE OF SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY HAVEN'T HAD NO SKIN IN THE GAME.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP.

BUT MY MY MY CONCERN IS POLITICS PLAYING A ROLE.

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.

I DON'T WANT POLITICS PLAYING A ROLE WHERE IT DON'T NEED TO BE BECAUSE WE WE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE FIRST AND AND STARTED THIS THING.

AND POLITICS IS A IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT GOING TO PLAY A ROLE AND HAS, YOU KNOW, BUT THE IDEA THAT IF YOU START WHERE I LEFT, LITERALLY.

WAS AT A NOVEMBER MEETING WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND EVERYBODY WHO WAS REPRESENTING ENTITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHICH WE WERE THE LARGEST.

AND IT BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE STATE WAS LANGUISHING.

SHE HAD FILED IN THE STATE OF A STATE COURT AND SHE WAS LANGUISHING IN THAT STATE COURT AND WAS GOING TO MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO BASICALLY, AS I USED EARLIER, THE WORD SCARF UP ALL OF THE MONEY. AND SO IT WAS PEOPLE LIKE JOHN.

WHO FOUGHT BACK AND BASICALLY SO THE ONLY THING YOU CAN SAY WITH.

WITH FAIRNESS. IS IT OK, SO SOMEBODY'S NOT REPRESENTED, OK, WILL COME IN AND GET SOME MONEY, AND THAT'S TRUE.

HOWEVER, THEY WILL NOT HAVE THE NUANCES THAT JOHN'S GOING TO HAVE AND OUR GROUP IS GOING TO HAVE TO GAIN ADVANTAGES THAT THEY MAY NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND EXIST.

AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT.

OK, BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE WHEN I GOT THE MEMO THAT WAS BEING CIRCULATED, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THE BEST THING I CAN SAY.

IT'S A HORRIBLE WAY TO PUT IT.

SO EXCUSE ME. IT WAS ALMOST LIKE WE HAD MADE A PRESENTATION TWICE OR THIS PARTICULAR JURISDICTION WAS ALMOST LIKE THUMBING OUR NOSE, THUMBING THEIR NOSE AT IT, OK? AND THEY CIRCULATED A MEMORANDUM ABOUT THE OPIOID CRISIS AND IT WAS ALMOST LAUGHABLY INACCURATE. AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO BLOW SMOKE.

BY A GOVERNING BODY, BY SAYING EXACTLY THAT POINT, OK, WHEN THEY MISSED THE POINT, THEY MISSED THE POINT THAT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE YOU CAN'T REALLY NEGOTIATE, YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE IN, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT PALM BAY NEEDS OR WHAT EVERY CITY NEEDS.

IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NUANCES, THE TRUE NUANCES OF THE MEETING AND THE ABATEMENT WHEN THE FOCUS SHIFTED TO ABATEMENT.

DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING THERE? I UNDERSTAND IT'S A DISTINCT ADVANTAGE.

AND THAT'S THE DIRECT ANSWER TO PATRICIA SMITH'S QUESTION TO ME EARLIER.

IT'S A DISTINCT ADVANTAGE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING, IS RECOGNIZED BY THE AUTHORITY AND UNDERSTANDS NUANCES THAT THIS OTHER CITY WON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THAT IS A DISTINCT ADVANTAGE OF BEING REPRESENTED.

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AND THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF PROBABLY THE MOST DIRECT QUESTION OR ANSWER TO PATRICIA SMITH'S QUESTION WILL WEIGH IN THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

AND BACK TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND ALSO COMMISSIONER BAILEY.

AND THAT IS WHAT A COURAGEOUS STAND THIS CITY TOOK BACK IN THAT DAY.

AND I HOPE THAT ANSWERS DIRECTLY YOUR QUESTION THAT THINK.

OK, WELL, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M SORRY, JOHN. SO.

I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT POTS, THE DIFFERENT POTS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE STATE POT AS AN EXAMPLE, AS MY COLLEAGUE ALLUDED TO, LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION COMMUNICATING WITH THEM.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ARE OR IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE GRANT FOR THOSE THOSE ABATEMENTS? THERE WILL BE APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE GRANTS, SO TO SPEAK.

SOMEWHAT SIMILAR.

AND I HATE TO USE A PARTICULAR WORD BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE UP SOME NEW SET OF WORDS FOR THE PROCEDURE.

BUT THE MONEY THAT GOES INTO THAT STATE BASKET, THAT MONEY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE GOING INTO THE COUNTIES AND CITIES.

WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT ON BEHALF OF PALM BAY, WE ARE THERE, AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVES TO SAY, HOLD ON A MINUTE, WE NEED SOME OF THAT IN PALM BAY OR THE FOLLOWING REASON. AND WE WILL HAVE THE EXPERTIZE TO LAY IT OUT.

WE WILL HAVE EXPERTS, WHATEVER WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONVINCE THEM OF THAT.

I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT IF YOU GO BACK HISTORICALLY.

IN HUNTINGTON, WEST VIRGINIA, OK? IN THE BEAUTIFUL MOUNTAINS RIGHT NEAR MARSHALL UNIVERSITY.

THERE WAS A DRUGSTORE RIGHT NEAR THERE AND BACK IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS.

THAT DRUGSTORE THROUGH THE DISTRIBUTORS FROM PURDUE.

WAS GETTING SIX MILLION.

OXYCONTIN'S A WEEK AND PUSHING THEM OUT THE DOOR.

AND PURDUE KNEW AT THE TIME.

ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE BEING ADDICTED.

THAT'S WHY I SAID IT WAS A A DRUG ENTERPRISE OF THE WORST KIND IF THE CITIES AND COUNTIES. HAD NOT COME TOGETHER AND FILED LITERALLY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF LAWSUITS OR DO WOULD STILL BE DOING IT.

IN FACT, IN THE SPECIAL THAT I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT IN OTHER DOCUMENTS, BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO 2010, 11, 12, 13, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN PURDUE GOT IN A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE. THEY GOT A LITTLE SLAP ON THE WRIST.

THEY TOOK CARE OF THE FINES.

THEY TOOK CARE OF SOME OTHER PAYMENTS AND WENT ON SELLING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF THESE DRUGS.

IT'S IT'S NOT UNTIL THEY ARE HIT HARD THAT YOU EVEN GET THEIR ATTENTION.

AND THEY NOW HAVE WE HAVE THEIR ATTENTION.

AND IT WAS AN ENTIRE GROUP OF OF.

COMPANIES AND PEOPLE IN THESE COMPANIES DOING HORRID THINGS, AND THEY KNEW ALL THE TIME WHAT WAS HAPPENING, THEY KNEW IT.

SO I'M PROUD OF PALM BAY BECAUSE PALM BAY SAID WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK.

WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THIS.

AND PALM BAY DID IT EARLY.

YEAH, I WANTED TO GET TO TO THE POT, THE THREE SEPARATE POPS, IF I MAY.

I'M LOOKING AT IT AS PERHAPS IT WOULD BE A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS TO GET TO THE STATE FUNDING AS IT FUNNELS TO US.

BUT YES, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THOSE THREE DIFFERENT POTS, THE FIRST POT WOULD BE POPULATION BASE, RIGHT.

AS IF IT COMES TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

YOU MENTIONED POPULATION WAS A FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, DRUG AMOUNT OF OPIOID SHIPPED INTO THE THERE'S A WHOLE ACTUALLY A WHOLE LIST.

AND I'LL BE ABLE TO I'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT TO YOU, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO IN THERE, LET'S LET'S TAKE THE CITY.

YES, THE CITY POT AS AN EXAMPLE THAT'LL BE FUNNELED RIGHT TO THE CITY COFFERS AND THEN WE'LL INSTITUTE ABATEMENT PROGRAMS. IS THAT THE CONCEPT? WE ARE HOPING THAT IS WHAT IS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT WHAT THE STATE WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN IS THAT IT GOES THROUGH THESE MANAGING ENTITIES.

SO WHAT WE WANT IT TO DO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE IT TO DO FOR THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO PALM BAY IS THAT MONEY COMES TO PALM BAY AND PALM BAY SPENDS IT IN THE WAY THAT IS FIT FOR THE ABATEMENT.

AND YOU GO THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT ARE ON THE LIST THAT I SAID THERE ARE

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ABOUT 200 OF THEM.

AND THAT'S ALL PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, POPPY, THAT I WANTED TO AFFORD COUNCILMAN BAILEY AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEST QUESTIONS SINCE I CAN'T MAKE A VISUAL OF HIM. SO COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. LET ME FIRST I APPRECIATE.

BOTH MR. KHAN COMING FORWARD HERE TONIGHT AND FOR AND FORGIVE ME, SIR, CAN YOU TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN, SIR? ROMANO, JON ROMANO, ROMANO APOLOGIZED TO HIM IN FRONT OF ME AND BUDGET MESSED IT UP, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE SOME PARTS OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WEREN'T AS CLEAR AS IT SHOULD BE. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND RE WATCH SOME OF THIS.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT I THINK MR. KHAN HAS TRIED TO WORK TO PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION AS FAR AS GUIDING THIS PROCESS.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING THIS AGAIN LATER.

AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND WITH OTHER QUESTIONS LATER.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, AGAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. ROMANO.

THANK YOU, MR. KONFORTI, FOR THE UPDATE.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS IN THIS VENTURE.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING BY.

WE'LL WE'LL WORK WITH YOU AND I'LL GET THIS PACKAGE TO YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF I MAY, I KNOW WE'RE GOING INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M ABLE TO REALLY HEAR EVERYBODY.

WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO MY MR. KHAN DID A GREAT JOB.

HE HIS OPENING STATEMENTS, LIKE EVERYTHING AFTER THAT, BECAME A LITTLE BIT HARDER.

AND PERHAPS MAYOR OF YOUR MIND STAFF CAN HELP THOSE WHO MAYBE ARE TALLER TO RAISE THAT PODIUM THAT WAY, BE MORE FLEXIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE MIC WITHOUT BENDING OVER. POINT TAKEN.

IF FOUR, FIVE, SEVEN, PLEASE RAISE THE LECTERN.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE COMING UP TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, FIRST THAT RENTAL OF CHESKY.

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RINGEL, YOU'RE A LITTLE TALLER, SO PERHAPS WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING INTO THE MIND. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY IS GOING TO HEAR ME.

NONE OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WILL ATTEST TO THAT.

RINGING OLSZEWSKI. I RESIDE AT TWO TWO SEVEN NEVILL CIRCLE.

IT'S A GREAT DAY IN PALM BAY, ISN'T IT? FIRST QUESTION IS, YOU GUYS READY FOR A LATE NIGHT NINE 15 ROUND PUBLIC COMMENTS? NEXT TIME I SEE AN AGENDA LIKE THIS, I'M BRINGING A DUNCAN BOXER, JOE HIGH ANYWAY, SO.

I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO REMAIN AS POSITIVE AS I CAN.

THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL, IF YOU WILL.

SO AT THE LAST MEETING, AS I DID TONIGHT, I PULLED A COUNCIL CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

IT WAS AN ITEM ELEVEN, I BELIEVE.

AND THE REASON I PULLED THE ITEM, BECAUSE I WANTED THE COUNCIL TO JUST SIMPLY CONSIDER WHY WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT.

AND WE HAD A GREAT 15 MINUTE CONVERSATION.

WON'T EVEN CALL IT A DEBATE THERE.

THERE'S SOME WONDERFUL POINTS RAISED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE COME UP.

WE HAD THE FIRE CHIEF COME UP TO SHARE THEIR SENTIMENTS AND OPINIONS.

WE HAD SOME COUNCIL MEMBER SHARE THEIR OPINIONS AND THINGS WERE GOING WELL.

AND NOW I DO NOT LAMENT THE FACT THAT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM PASSED.

I THINK THAT THAT REALLY WAS WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CITY.

BUT WHAT I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH IS THE FACT THAT WE WERE AT A POINT WHERE WE WERE ALMOST TO THE POINT OF GETTING CONSENSUS THAT THE IDEA OF SURVEYING THE PUBLIC ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, TAKING PAUSE, SEEING, YOU KNOW, HOW THINGS WOULD WORK OUT.

BUT APPROXIMATELY 16 MINUTES INTO THAT CONVERSATION, THE CITY MANAGER RECEIVED A TEXT MESSAGES FROM OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICER THAT WE HAD ALREADY DID THE JOB AND THEN THAT INFLUENCED EVERYBODY DECISION.

WHY? I CAN'T SAY THAT INFLUENCED EVERYBODY'S DECISION.

BUT IN SHORT ORDER, AFTER THAT CONVERSATION WAS CLOSED, THE QUESTION WAS CALLED AND MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHARED THAT, WELL, SINCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN BID, WE BETTER JUST GO AHEAD AND NOT TAKE PAUSE AND NOT TALK TO THE PUBLIC.

WE NEED TO JUST SEND THIS ONE THROUGH.

I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT. I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I'VE RECENTLY BEEN SENT TO DO MY DUTIES ON A CITY BOARD, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INTERPRETATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.

AND THIRD POINT IN SUMMARIZING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US AND THE REST OF THE PACKET IS THAT WE WANT TO PREVENT SITUATIONS WHERE PUBLIC MEETINGS BECOME NO MORE THAN A CEREMONY FOR APPROVAL OF WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DECIDED UPON.

WELL, WE ALREADY DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT JOB.

THAT'S WHY WE BIT IT LATER ON IN THAT MEETING, IN THE 11 O'CLOCK HOUR AND ELEVEN ELEVEN,

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TO BE EXACT. WE WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING AN ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEETING IN JUNE. ON JUNE 10TH, THE MAYOR RAISED THE IDEA THAT, WELL, ALTHOUGH THIS HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP, IT WAS A RELATIVELY SHORT MEETING.

DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO THIS? SO MANAGER SAID, WELL, MR. MAYOR, YOU ALREADY ADVERTISE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MEETING ON JUNE 10TH.

SO WE KIND OF NEED TO DO IT.

SO WE ALL AGREED TO IT. I'M GOING TO ATTEND THE MEETING.

I KNOW EVERYONE IN COUNCIL IS GOING TO, BUT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY STAFF TO PRACTICE THE SAME LEVEL OF SUNSHINE AS THE COUNCIL IS AND AS MS. BOARD MEMBER AND ALL THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ARE DOING.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK VERY HARD TO BE TRANSPARENT TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY AND GIVE THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY THEIR RIGHT TO HEAR AND BRING TO ATTENTION ISSUES BEFORE THEY ARE DECIDED UPON.

THANK YOU. BEN.

ALBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'VE EXPERIENCED THIS PROBLEM A COUPLE OF TIMES OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ADDRESSING COUNSEL, AND IT WAS THE ADA COMPLIANCE.

THE. I CAN RESEARCH A TOPIC OVER PAST MEETINGS OR.

AGENDAS THAT WERE PRESENTED, I COULD ACCESS ALL THAT INFORMATION.

BUT THEN WHEN THE CITY WAS SAID, WELL, THEY'RE NOT ADA COMPLIANT, I NO LONGER CAN ACCESS WHAT I COULD AT THE TIME TO DO MY OWN HOMEWORK AND DO MY RESEARCH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW ME, I RESEARCH EVERYTHING BEFORE I COME TO YOU.

WELL, NOW, BECAUSE OF THE ADA COMPLIANCE, SINCE WE HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS THAT ARE NOT THEY ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH STAFF OF THE CITY TO IRAQ TO GET SOMETHING THAT WE USED TO BE ABLE TO JUST PUNCH IN ON THE COMPUTER.

I COULD BRING UP ANY AGENDA, ANY PACKET, ANYTHING AND DO MY OWN RESEARCH.

OH, NOW I CAN'T DO THAT.

I'M NOT FAULTING STAFF STAFF BEND OVER BACKWARDS AND GOT ME EVERYTHING I ASKED FOR BECAUSE IT WAS FOR A PROJECT FROM 2018.

IT'S NOT THE PROJECTS NOT COMPLETED, BUT I WANTED TO REVIEW IT.

WELL, THEY THEY THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP ME.

THE BAD THING WAS I COULDN'T DO ANY OF THAT RESEARCH MYSELF.

I HAD TO HAVE THEM DO IT.

SO NOW BECAUSE OF THIS, SOME ONE SIMPLE FACTOR BEING ADA COMPLIANCE AND WELL, WE CAN'T PROVIDE IT TO EVERYBODY.

THE CITY'S SOLUTION IS WE'LL PROVIDE IT TO NOBODY AND MAKE STAFF HAVE TO PULL OUT EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT WANTS TO BE REVIEWED.

I THINK I THINK THE IDEA WAS RIGHT, MAKING IT EQUITABLE, BUT WE LOST.

TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN SOLVE THAT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION'S THERE, STAFF CAN GET IT.

I JUST COULDN'T GET IT WHERE I COULD BEFORE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS READILY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC PRIOR TO THAT.

SO I'M NOT FAULTING THE STAFF TO STAFF BEND OVER BACKWARDS AND THEY GOT ME EVERYTHING I ASKED FOR. BUT ISN'T IF THIS IS GOING TO BE COMING UP MORE AND MORE NOW AS I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO MORE HOMEWORK.

THAT MEANS THE STAFF ENDS UP WORKING FOR ME.

NOW, THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE WAY I WANTED IT TO BE, I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO MY OWN OWN RESEARCH. OK, LET'S LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S A NEGATIVE EFFECT OF WHAT HAPPENED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAN.

SHERMAN DID THESE LAST FEW PUBLIC COMMENTS IN AN EFFORT OF TRANSPARENCY.

COULD WE LOOK AT THESE THESE ISSUES IN PARTICULAR OF OF MAKING THAT PUBLIC ACCESS REGARDING WHAT MR. BILL BATTON BROUGHT UP AND EVEN MS., THOUGH, CHAYEFSKY, WHAT UP? SOME SOME REALLY INTERESTING COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ADVERTISE WAY AHEAD OF TIME AND AND THE CONSENT ITEM.

SO THESE THINGS MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW DID YOU PUT ME ON A TIME? YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEE HOW WE COULD IMPROVE THAT TRANSPARENCY PROCESS HERE.

THANK YOU. ANIMALA.

WE'RE AT ITEM NUMBER ONE IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

MS. ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH TWENTY FIVE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF WITNESSES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 51 PUBLIC HEARINGS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR ESTABLISHING TIME LIMITS FOR LAND USE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF WITNESSES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION.

A CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND AND AS MS.

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MOVED TO PRESENT THE REQUEST.

YES, SIR, THIS IS FOR FINAL READING, THIS CREATES TIME LIMITS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, TYPICALLY FOR ONLINE NEWS ITEMS. TYPICALLY THESE COME UP WHEN THEY'RE PLANNING AMENDMENTS.

AS I SAID, BE THE LAST MEETING AND COUNCILMAN, BAILEY, BAILEY ELABORATE.

IT WAS BASED UPON A PRESENTATION, A PLANNED AMENDMENT CASE THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.

WE USE THESE FOR A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING AND IT REALLY WORKED WELL.

AND SO THE INTENT WAS TO CODIFY THESE PROCEDURES FOR FUTURE HEARINGS AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM IN CHIEF? MILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THIS TOPIC CAME UP FOR ITS FIRST READING, I ASKED WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA TO MAKE WHETHER YOU ARE INDEED THE AGGRIEVED OR THE ADVERSELY AFFECTED AND LEGAL GAME? HERE'S WHAT IT WAS OR CERTAIN GUIDELINES THAT THEY USE FOR THEIR CRITERIA.

WELL, YOU KNOW, BILL BATTON, HE'S NOT SATISFIED IF HE DOESN'T KNOW IT FOR HIMSELF.

SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED UP UNDER THE SAME STATE STATUTES, CHAPTER ONE SIX THREE, SECTION THREE TO ONE FIVE.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT STATES.

AS USED IN THIS SECTION, THE TERM AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY MEANS ANY PERSON OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT WILL SUFFER AN ADVERSE EFFECT TO AN INTEREST PROTECTED OR FURTHERED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INCLUDING INTEREST RELATED TO HEALTH.

SAFETY, POLICE, FIRE.

DENSITIES OR INTENSITIES OF DEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, HEALTH CARE FACILITIES, EQUIPMENT OR SERVICES AND ENVIRONMENTAL OR NATURAL RESOURCES.

THAT'S JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT COULD AFFECT A PERSON.

SO WITH THIS WITH THAT SIMPLE STATEMENT, THIS MAKES JUST ABOUT ANY PERSON ELIGIBLE FOR THE 30 MINUTE TIME LIMIT INSTEAD OF THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE ME HAVE TO TALK ON.

REMEMBER, THE RESIDENTS ARE USUALLY THE AGGRIEVED PARTY, NOT THE APPLICANT OR NOT THE ONE PERSON FILING.

IT'S NORMALLY THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THAT AREA THAT ARE THE AGGRIEVED PARTY, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM.

WHEN YOU SQUELCH SOMEBODY, YOU'VE LEGALLY BLOCKED THEIR ABILITY TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION THAT WAS GOING TO ADVERSELY AFFECT THEM.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND TIME LIMITS.

WHEN YOU START SAYING ON A QUASI JUDICIAL ON SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY PERTINENT, THAT GOES TO A LEGAL BEARING, THREE MINUTES FOR THE AGGRIEVED PERSON, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO THE AGGRIEVED PERSON IS AND SOMETIMES WHO GOES TO WHO HAS TO GO TO A LAWYER? DOES THAT MEAN I HAVE TO HIRE A LAWYER EVERY TIME I WANT TO COME IN HERE AND TALK? I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THE AGGRIEVED PERSONS MORE THAN ONCE.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND I ALSO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE THE AGGRIEVED PEOPLE.

WE ARE THE TAXPAYER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SMITH, CAN YOU ADDRESS? THE PUBLIC COMMENT IN IN THAT AGGRIEVED PARTY, I MEAN, DOES IT HAVE TO BE AN ATTORNEY NOW? AND MR. BIDEN READ THE FIRST PART OF ONE SIXTY THREE POINT THREE TO ONE FIVE, SUBSECTION TWO.

I DO WANT TO READ THE LATTER PART THERE, BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS FAR AS WHO HAS STANDING. AND THE ALLEGED ADVERSE INTEREST MAY BE SHARED IN COMMON WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, MUST EXCEED IN DEGREE A GENERAL INTEREST IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SHARED BY ALL PERSONS.

AND. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE WORKSHOP AND SOME OF THE MATERIAL AND EVEN IN THE LAST MEETING WHEN I DISCUSSED AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PERSON, IT THAT PERSON HAS SOME TYPE OF HARM THAT IS JUST.

IS DIFFERENT AND IS MORE SUBSTANTIAL IN THAT PERSONS IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND AS FAR AS MIGHT BE ENVIRONMENTAL, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A FIFTH DCA CASE AND WHERE SOMEONE ALLEGED, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?

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THIS PROJECT WILL HURT THE ENVIRONMENT.

I'M IN THIS CITY AS SO I SHOULD HAVE STANDING.

AND THE COURT SAID, NO, NOT SO FAST, BECAUSE CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE ON YOUR BUT NEIGHBOR, GENERALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE STAND.

THAT'S WHAT SOMEBODY IS DOING ON THE PROPERTY NEXT TO YOU MAY AFFECT YOU, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST A MEMBER OF THE CITY AT A HOME OR YOU HAVE A BUSINESS AS A WHOLE OR SO FOUL, THAT THAT IS NOT THE TYPE OF ADVERSE INTEREST THAT GIVES YOU.

THE AGREED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY STATUS IS NOT JUST WHAT YOU HATE BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR AGGRIEVE OR YOU DON'T YOU THINK IS NOT BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS A WHOLE. YOU HAVE SOME PARTICULAR INTERESTS IN WHICH IT IS AFFECTED BEYOND THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF THE PALM BAY.

SO THERE ARE STANDARDS AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF CASES THAT DEAL WITH THIS.

SO IT IS NOT AS EXPANSIVE AS ANY PERSON THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU KNOW, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THAT'S COUNCILMAN PROMOTION, BOWSMAN APPROVAL, AND IT'S TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY FIVE ON READING SECOND EMOTION FROM DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN BAILEY YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON? NO, SIR, I'LL KEEP MY HOURS BEFORE ANYBODY TO THE COMMENTS IN THE FIRST READING IF THEY'RE INTERESTED. ALL RIGHT, I'M CALLING THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR AND ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, ORTON'S TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH 26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, VARRICK COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 178 SIGNS ESTABLISHING PROVISIONS FOR WAYFINDING SIGNS AND MODIFYING LANGUAGE FOR WHILE SIGNS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ALL.

THIS IS A CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN A CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO ASK MS. SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS THE FINAL READING FOR SOME ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR BUSINESSES TO HAVE SIGNAGE BOTH ON THEIR PROPERTY AND ON THEIR BUSINESS ITSELF, AS WELL AS OFFSITE SIGNAGE ADVERTISING THEIR LOCATION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? SO, YOU KNOW, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THIS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY SIX, FINAL READING SO I CAN HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL? HEARING NONE, I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR, I, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ADAM SMITH. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBER THREE OR SEVEN AND EIGHT.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MEDINA SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS IN THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

ALL OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGREED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY.

IT HAS COMPLY WITH SECTION FIFTY NINE POINT THREE.

EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES, ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY OR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES OR WITNESS, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS, A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON HIS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.

AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

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EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

WITNESS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH TWENTY SEVEN.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS CYPRESS BAY WEST PHASE ONE STUDY, EMPTY LAND UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF MARILENA BOULEVARD, WEST OF BABCOCK STREET.

LEGAL IS DESCRIBED HERE IN PROVIDING FOR A COMMITMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AT THIS TIME ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THIS CASE.

THANK YOU, CIVIL ENGINEER, FOR THE PROJECT, JAKE WISE, SINCE WE VETTED THIS ONE OUT IN GREAT DETAIL, THE FIRST READING, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO PROVIDE, JUST ONE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN MAY HAVE.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COMMENTS, I'LL SEE IF GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR LARRY BRADLEY HAS ANYTHING HE'D LIKE TO ADD.

NOTHING NEW, SIR. IT MAY JOHNSON ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

AND CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THIS, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH 27, FINAL READING. IT'S LIKE A.

AIR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

COUNCILMAN FELIX. ALL OF SAME HERE, COUNCILMAN BAILEY SAY SOMETHING ON THE LINE.

WELL, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND D.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? COUNCILMAN BAILEY. NO, I JUST THOUGHT THE TARGET WAS HANGING OUT.

GIVE ME A SECOND. I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. WHAT IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY EIGHT, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, VARVARA COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS CHAPARRAL PHASE THREE AND PUDI PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT FLYING. YOU LIVE IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF ALESSANDRI, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HERE IN PROVIDING FOR A COMMITMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK.

THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD AND PRESENT THIS CASE.

THANK YOU, JACQUI'S, AGAIN, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

SAME THING AS LAST PROJECT.

WE VETTED IT OUT IN GREAT DETAIL DURING THE FIRST READING, SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, WE VOLUNTEERED TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO PUT UP EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALONG OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST, WHICH WAS A CONDITION THAT WE HAD VOLUNTEERED FOR.

SO THAT, AGAIN, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST GO.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THOSE SPEAKERS, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION OCEAN IMPROVE ON ITS 2021 DESK. TWENTY EIGHT FINAL READING.

SECOND OF A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN.

HEARING NONE, I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR, I, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

WITNESS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH TWENTY NINE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 34, HUMAN RESOURCES, SUBCHAPTER WHISTLEBLOWERS, ORDINANCE MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PROGRESSIVE ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

YOU MAY HAVE JOHNSON. LIKE.

NOTHING ELSE TO ADD OTHER THAN THE COMMENTS FROM THE LAST MEETING, BUT IF ANYBODY ON

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COUNCIL OR IN THE PUBLIC HAS A QUESTION, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY.

OUTSTANDING JOB.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS.

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THIS SETS A WAY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND AND BE FORTHCOMING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME SINCE NO ONE WISHES TO SPEAK AND ASK FOR A MOTION. MOST OF THE WORLD IS TWENTY, TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY NINE, FINAL READING LIKE.

IT WAS THAT DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND I'VE I'VE GOT.

I THINK HE BEAT YOU AT THE BUZZER COUNCILMAN BAILEY, I THINK COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS THE SECOND ON THAT ONE. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS UNANIMOUSLY WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

SMITH WITNESSED 20, 21, JUST 30, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, WINNING THE CODE OR WITNESSES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE BY CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 62 TO BE TITLE FRAUD INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF OR IS THIS ALL PART OF IF IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

WHEN I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY, WOULD YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? MAYOR, JUST BECAUSE I'M ON THE LINE AND IT'S QUITE HARD TO FOLLOW THEM IN PERSON, I WILL RESERVE MY COMMENTS UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

I STILL URGE US TO MOVE FORWARD THAT THE I THINK THE ADVICE OF LEGAL AND I THINK GOOD.

I THINK EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE WITH GOOD.

OH, I'LL BE THERE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

I'M GOING TO ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

HE WON. IAN, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND AS COUNSEL FOR EMOTION.

I WAS GOING TO LEAVE IT TO HIM TO MAKE IT.

OH, WELL, MAYBE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO PROVE AUGUST 20, 21, DASH 34 READING.

SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THE FIRST READING I WAS AGAINST IS THIS ORDINANCE, BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

I THINK IT'S. IS.

I HOPE IS NEVER NEEDED, BUT IF IT IF IT IS NEEDED, WE HAVE IT IN PLACE.

SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

MOTION. I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND AGAIN, KUDOS TO YOU, COUNCILMAN BAILEY, I'M SORRY YOU'RE NOT NEXT TO ME A PAT ON THE BACK FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION.

YES, SIR. IF I MAY, I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T HEAR EXACTLY MR. FOSTER COMMENTS.

CAN YOU HELP IF YOU CAN WE HAVE THIS REPEATED OR IF YOU CAN SEE THEM.

HE HE SAID THAT OFFICIALLY.

HE SAID HE DIDN'T SUPPORT THIS.

THE FIRST READING.

HOWEVER, HE IS SUPPORTING THIS NOW AND HOPING THAT WE NEVER, NEVER NEED THIS.

UNDERSTOOD. MAYOR, THEN THE NEXT STEP, I JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST BRING IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION IS HAVING A RESOLUTION.

AND I'M HOPING THAT WITH NO COUNCIL SUPPORT, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT THE RESOLUTION COULD LOOK LIKE NOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHARTER OFFICERS, TO DESIGN THAT RESOLUTION, TO BRING THAT BACK SO THAT WE HAVE THE COMMITTEE NO, SAY THREE OR MS. JONES OR CITY CLERK CAN BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

I THINK WE HAD CONSENSUS ON THAT ALREADY.

YES, SIR, RIGHT? YES, SIR. WE HAD CONSENSUS ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION.

I MEAN, COUNCILMAN, FELIX.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN BAILEY FOR FOR THE WORK YOU PUT IN.

I KNOW HE WAS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

I WASN'T VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA AT FIRST.

BUT THE MORE I UNDERSTAND AND IT WAS WELL EXPLAINED WHAT CITY ATTORNEY LAID OUT PRETTY

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WELL FOR US. I WILL IN SUPPORT OF IT AS WELL.

OUTSTANDING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COLLABORATION IN THAT.

THAT'S THAT'S REALLY AWESOME.

IT'S REALLY AWESOME FOR ME TO SEE THIS TYPE OF WORK ETHIC, WORK ETHIC AND WORK EFFORT BY EVERYONE HERE ON COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE.

AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

AGAIN, I KNOW THAT EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX SAID ABOUT PASSION ABOUT THIS.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU WORKED HARD TO GET THIS PASSED.

SO KUDOS TO YOU.

HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

I HAVE A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED AS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH NINETEEN, A RESOLUTION TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUDI PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS RICHMOND COVE PUDI, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO GAIN OR DRIVE IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF OCEAN SPRAY STREET AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR FILING OF THE FINAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STATE THEIR CASE. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS BRUCE, MOYAMOYA ENGINEER, RECORD FOR MBP ENGINEERING ON THIS PROJECT REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

WELL, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR US JUST TO GET THE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON GAYNER DRIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE NEW PAD THAT WAS JUST CONSTRUCTED NOT TOO LONG AGO TO THE SOUTH OF US.

WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME PARCELS AND WE WANT TO DEVELOP THAT IN AN AREA THAT THE LAND USE IN BASICALLY THE ENTIRE AREA, NORTH, EAST AND WEST OF THE SOUTH OF THIS, ALMOST AS FAR AS YOU CAN SEE, IS LAND USED TO SFR, WHICH IS FIVE UNESTHETIC OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

OUR PROPOSAL IS TO DO LESS THAN HALF OF THAT, ONLY TO TWO POINT FORTY SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR PUDI DESIGNATION AND PROVIDE 25 PERCENT OF THE AREA IS OPEN SPACE. WE REALLY KIND OF PREFER TO DEVELOP THAT WAY, REALLY, LIKE THE CITIES ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS US TO CLUSTER THE DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE PROPERTY AS WE CAN, AS WELL AS TRY TO SAVE ANY EXISTING FEATURES, TERESE WHATNOT.

THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN THAT IT ACTUALLY KIND OF ALMOST ENCOMPASSES ONE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WILL REMAIN.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A HORSESHOE THAT WE'VE GOT AROUND HIM.

WE DESIGNED THIS PADDYS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE THE SURROUNDINGS IN MIND, WHICH IS WHY I KIND OF LIKE THE PDS, BECAUSE YOU YOU GET TO KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ARTISTIC LIBERTY WHERE YOU SAY, OK, WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S IT AROUND, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S OVER HERE? HOW DO WE MOVE THIS AROUND TO CREATE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT AS POSSIBLE.

SO. OR THAT LARGE LOT OWNER WHO I GUESS RECENTLY JUST BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY, WE ARE, I BELIEVE, ABOUT 600 FEET TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH, THE CLOSEST PROPOSED HOME.

SO WE'RE LEAVING HIM QUITE, QUITE A BUFFER FROM HIS HOUSE, A LITTLE BIT LESS TO THE WEST.

BUT THE MOST PART, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP HIM.

WE'RE NOT PUTTING LOTS RIGHT UP AGAINST HIS HOUSE.

WE'RE NOT HEMMING HIM IN, GIVING HIM LOTS OF OPEN SPACE SO THAT HE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE CROWDING HIM. HE WAS AT THE PENNSY MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE TONIGHT, BUT I'M SURE IF HE IS, HE WILL SPEAK.

NOT SURE IF HE'LL SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT WE DID HAVE HIM IN MIND WHEN WE DESIGNED THE SUBDIVISION. SO WE TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, MINIMIZE THE DENSITY, THE AREA DENSE DENSITY OF THE GENERAL AREA HERE IS ABOUT THREE UNITS, THE ACRE, BECAUSE IT'S THE OLD GDC, YOU KNOW, NO RETENTION, JUST BASICALLY LOTS AND STREETS.

WE'LL BE PROVIDING ALL THE STORMWATER, WATER, SEWER, ALL THOSE FACILITIES WE BROUGHT TO THE SITE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR STANDARDS WILL BE BUFFERS AROUND THE PERIMETER AND IT'S BORDERED ON THE NORTH BY A CANAL AND ON THE WEST BY AN EXISTING CANAL AS WELL.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK.

I WAS HOPING AND IT WAS GETTING LATE.

NO MR. BATTEN STILL HERE AND THIS IS HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I THINK HE WILL BE SPEAKING ON IT.

SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK UP TO SEE IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANY ISSUES HE BRINGS UP.

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SO LET'S YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO START MY PRESENTATION HERE, COME BACK LATER, BUT JUST REMIND YOU THAT THIS IS JUST PRELIMINARY AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK FOR FINAL APPROVAL ON THIS IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU, SO YOU'RE RESERVING YOUR TIME.

UM, YES, WE HAVE FIRST MARK FALL AND THEN ON DECK MR. BILL BATTON. LOMAIA COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MARK FOLEY.

I LIVE AT THIRTEEN HUNDRED GAYNER DRIVE PALM BAY ON THE LOT THAT'S BEING BUILT AROUND.

AT THIS POINT I'M NOT REALLY HAPPY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHEN I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY, ALL THE LOTS AROUND ME WERE BEING ASKED TO BE SOLD FOR FIVE ACRE LOTS. SO I BOUGHT MY PROPERTIES EXPECTING FIVE ACRE LOTS AROUND ME, LIKE HAVING A LIKEWISE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEN AFTER I BOUGHT MY LOT, THEN I WAS APPROACHED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE TRYING TO BUILD A SUBDIVISION ALL AROUND MY MY HOUSE.

I WOULDN'T EXPECT IT TO GO, LIKE, COMPLETELY ALL THE WAY AROUND MY HOUSE.

I DON'T PERSONALLY THINK THAT OUR ROAD CAN HANDLE IT, WE JUST HAD A BRAND NEW ROAD PUT INTO OUR ON THE STREET.

IT'S BEEN PAID OR OF RAILROAD FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT IT'S JUST GOTTEN PAVED.

THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY WANTS TO START BUILDING ON THIS ROAD NOW.

BUT I DON'T I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THEY WANT TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF RUNNING THE SEWER LINE OR THE WATER LINE BECAUSE OUR STREET IS NOT EXPANDABLE.

THERE'S NO REALLY LONG LINES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

IT'S JUST THE ROAD.

SO IT'S I MEAN, THERE'S THIS ROAD AND THEN WE CALL IT.

THE GUTTER UNDER THE GUTTER, BUT THE SOIL, SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THEY WOULD TRY TO EVEN MANAGE TO DO THAT WITHOUT DESTROYING THE BRANDEE ROAD WE HAVE, WHICH IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE FOR OUR CITY SINCE WE JUST BUILT ALL THAT.

WHEN HURRICANES COME AROUND, THIS IS A BIG HURRICANE AREA, NOT QUITE SURE HOW EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GET OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION BECAUSE THERE'S NO MAIN ROAD THAT COMES OFF OF THE SUBDIVISION EITHER.

HAVE GARVIE, WHICH IS A LONG ROAD FULL OF OTHER HOUSES.

AND OUR LIKE I SAID, OUR STREET IS JUST A TWO LANE ROAD AND THERE'S ANOTHER SUBDIVISION ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER END. AND THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE PATHWAYS TO GET TO DEGROOTE, WHICH IS JUST GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S NOT READY FOR THAT MUCH CONGESTION. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT SPOT FOR THIS SUBDIVISION.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TIME AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BILL BURTON.

IL BATTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN BOUGHT, SOLD AND LIVED ON AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

IN FACT, CRAXI HAS HAD TO FIVE ACRES SITES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE ONLY THREE RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS WITHIN THIS AREA OF THE CURRENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS, 80 PERCENT OF THEM HAVE LIVESTOCK OR AGRICULTURE.

SO ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIFTY FOOT WIDE LOTS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THIS RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PDU.

WILL SURROUND ONE OF THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WHICH YOU JUST BOUGHT.

I FEEL SORRY FOR THE MAN HE JUST BUILT HIS BRAND NEW HOUSE.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CAN YOU SHOW SLIDE NUMBER TWO, PLEASE? OVERGROWN VEGETATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF GAYNOR ROAD, WHERE THE CITY DOES NOT OWN ANY RIGHT AWAY IN THIS AREA, WHERE WILL THE WATER LINES AND THE SEWER GO? URSIN DIDN'T SELL THE LAND TO THE CITY.

WHERE WOULD THOSE LINES GO? ITEM NUMBER FIVE, SPEEDING DOWN GAYNER ROAD WITH THIS OVERGROWTH MAKES FOR AN UNSAFE DRIVING CONDITION WHEN THE SPEEDING DUMP TRUCKS THAT ARE ON THE ROAD FOR CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET OUT OF THEIR WAY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX, CAN I SHOW SLIDE NUMBER THREE, PLEASE? THE LAST SPUD BUILT ON GAIN, A ROAD HOLIDAY BUILDER, WAS ALSO ONE OF THEM.

THEY HAD THE ROAD CLOSE FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS NEW FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.

NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE NORTH END OF THE ROAD.

I SEE OUR SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.

ITEM SEVEN. KEEP ALL ASPECTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION OFF THE SIDE STREETS AS THIS IS NOT

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THEIR PRIVATE STAGING AREA.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAD TO LIVE WITH WHILE THEY'RE BUILDING THIS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE DON'T WANT THAT DAY IN AND DAY OUT BECAUSE, OH, LOOK, HERE'S MY PRIVATE STAGING AREA.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, COULD YOU SHOW SLIDE NUMBER ONE, PLEASE? THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAN I GOT FROM THE DEVELOPER, I CONTACTED THEM, AND THAT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

THIS TO ME UNDER BILL BATIN STANDARDS IS ANOTHER CASE OF BAIT AND SWITCH.

THIS WAS JUST A PROPOSAL.

ONCE YOU GIVE THEM THE PROPOSAL, THEY CAN MAKE ANOTHER PLAN UP.

BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY SENT ME OF WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING.

SO IN MY CLOSING STATEMENTS, THEY OWN THE LAND.

THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THE LAND.

HOWEVER, IT SHOULD REMAIN AS RURAL RESIDENTS, RURAL RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY BOUGHT.

PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED NOT TO APPROVE THIS PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND I MADE IT IN THE THREE MINUTES AND GOT.

NELSON EDDY RIVERA.

THIS EVENING. THAT'S NOT SENATOR RIVERA, NOT BILL, DEAR, BUT I FOR 498, LACROIX ROLLED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS WHEN WE MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA NOW FOR THREE YEARS AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO BUILD.

WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS AREA.

WE LEARNED ABOUT THE RURAL AREA.

THIS WAS GOING TO BE AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DECIDED TO BUILD HERE.

WE HAVE TALKED TO OTHER RESIDENTS.

THEY TOLD US THE SAME THING.

THIS WAS GOING TO BE A WARD AREA.

WE DID NOT WANT TO BE AROUND A COMMUNITY WITH CONGESTION AND EVERYTHING.

I JUST MOVED FROM NEW YORK, SO I'M GETTING AWAY FROM THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE WENT THERE.

IT WAS A DIRT ROAD AND WE WERE READY TO MOVE INTO A DIRT ROAD BECAUSE I SAID, THIS IS GREAT. WE WON'T HAVE NO TRAFFIC SINCE THEY BUILD THAT ROAD.

MY WIFE AND I STILL GO OVER THERE.

EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.

WE GO WITH MORE WEIGHT, WE KEEP IT CLEAN.

AND THE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW IS HORRIBLE.

AND MY BRINGING IN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT WITH ONE THAT JUST CAME IN AT THE OTHER END IS TOTALLY SET. YOUR ZONING BOARD VOTED NOT TO APPROVE THIS, AND I'M HOPING YOU LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT MY FUTURE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING HERE TODAY.

YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE AREA LOOKS LIKE, WHAT'S COMING.

AND THIS GENTLEMAN THAT WE SAW WHEN WE SAW HIS HOUSE AND TO HAVE ALL THIS BUILD AROUND HIM, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THAT.

WOULD YOU WANT THAT FOR YOURSELF? YOU GOT TO YOU SHOULD PUT YOURSELF SOMETIMES IN THE PLACE OF THE RESIDENT AND WHAT WE HAVE TO FACE THE DECISIONS WE MADE TO COME HERE, THE DECISIONS WE MADE TO COME TO PALM BAY AND MAKE OUR PALM BAY OUR HOME.

WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND BRINGING CONGESTION. AND LIKE HE SAID, IF YOU DRIVE TO THAT, THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN WAYS IF THERE'S A HURRICANE IN THIS PLACE, HOW THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF THEIR.

JUST LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S ALL I ASK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE WENT TO. MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO BRING THAT UP? I'D LIKE TO START WITH OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, LARRY BRADLEY.

A GOOD EVENING, LARRY BRADLEY, GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

SO AS YOU HAVE HEARD, THIS IS A REZONING APPLICATION.

IT IS NOT A LAND USE CHANGE BECAUSE THE LAND USE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

ANOTHER STAFF REPORT SAID IT WAS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A LAND USE.

THAT'S THE ZONING. IT IS SFR, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, BUT IT IS A REZONING APPLICATION AND IT IS ALSO APPROVED.

SO IN THE CASE OF A DISCIPLINARY POD, SOON, ONCE WE APPROVED THIS PRELIMINARY STUDY, IF THEY MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO IT IN THE FUTURE, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK.

SO WHEN THE KIND OF LOCKS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND UNDER A DEAL WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR, THAT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN JUST A LAND USE AND ZONING WHERE THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THIS ONE HAS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS ON THE SCREEN.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING.

IT'S 149 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, ALL 50 BY 120 FOOT LOTS WITH A DENSITY OF TWO POINT FOUR SEVEN ACRES WITH THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ALLOWED IN IN SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL IS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

SO IT'S ONLY ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY WOULD ALLOW ON THE CURRENT LAND USE.

HOWEVER, THE ZONING IS OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL WITCHELL, WHICH REQUIRES ONE ACRE MINIMUM.

SO THE STAFF REPORT YOU HAVE ALL RECEIVED, THE STAFF REPORT STAFF DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS WITH A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS AND THOSE CONDITIONS INCLUDED THAT THE PRELIMINARY

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ENTITLE OPINION AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT SHOULD BE BEFORE FINAL PRELIMINARY PLANT AND SUBDIVISION AND BOUNDARY TITLE OPINION, DEED RESTRICTIONS WITH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND AMENITY CENTER WITH A POOL SCHOOL CAPACITY, THE TERMINATION LETTER FROM BROWARD COUNTY SCHOOLS AND A LIST OF TECHNICAL COMMENTS WHICH WERE ALSO ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. SO THOSE WERE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, WHICH DID HEAR THIS EARLIER LAST MONTH, VOTED FOR DENIAL BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO TWO AND SAT IN ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE MINUTES.

THERE WERE TWO COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE IN SUPPORT OF THE DENIAL.

MS. BARRAGE ON THE BOARD SAID THAT ALTHOUGH THE SMALLER LOTS WERE MARKET DRIVEN, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW HOMEBUYERS THAT DESIRE LARGE PARCELS OF LAND IN PALM BAY AND MR. WARNER WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE RESIDENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD EVACUATE DURING EMERGENCIES. HE ALSO BELIEVED THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD REMAIN RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL, AS HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUNCTIONAL WETLANDS AND THE FUTURE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

THUS, HE COULD NOT SUPPORT THE REQUEST.

AND WHEN THEY CALLED THE VOTE, IT WAS A FOUR TO TWO VOTE AT PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY MY REPORT AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALI. LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS THAT.

WE QUESTION THIS APPLICANT TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY OR A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE OR WAS THAT WAS IN THE TECHNICAL COMMENTS AND THERE ACTUALLY IS ALREADY A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT PREPARED BY MR. MOYAR. WHAT HIS REPORT SHOWS, AND I DID CONFIRM IT WITH OUR CITY ENGINEER, THAT IT IS HE DID USE THE CORRECT LAND USE AND AND TRIP CALCULATION, AN AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS OF 1407 TRIPS OVER THE ENTIRE DAY.

AND IN THE P.M. PEAK HOUR, ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE TRIPS IS WHAT'S PROJECTED.

SO THAT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PUT INTO THE RECORD BY THE APPLICANT.

OK, CAN THAT ROAD SUPPORT THAT AND I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR CITY ENGINEER FOR THAT.

I BELIEVE IT CAN, BUT HE'S SAYING HE'S HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD.

YES. THAT I GUESS BASED ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ADOPTED IN OUR COMP PLAN, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT 149 SHIPS AT PEAK HOUR WOULD BE WOULD MEET WOULD NOT TRIP OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE COMP PLAN.

IT WOULD NOT EXCEED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, I SHOULD SAY, THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE COMP PLAN.

WELL. THEY CALL FOR THE APPLICANT TO WIDEN A ROAD OR MAKE AN EXTRA TURNING LANE OR PUT IT POTENTIALLY, POTENTIALLY COULD REQUIRE WIDENING OR TURN LANES.

I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER BY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF RIGHT AWAY THERE. SO THAT MAY REQUIRE THEM TO TAKE RIGHT AWAY FROM THEIR OWN PROJECT TO CREATE IT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PROVIDE IT OFFSITE.

THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE IT ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND MAYBE MR. WANT TO NOT BE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE.

AGAIN, FRANK WATANABE, THE CITY ENGINEER, JUST TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THE ROAD CAPACITY, TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS ADT SAID LARRY MENTIONED THERE'S 14 07 PROPOSED FROM THE TRIP FROM THE PROJECT.

A ROAD LIKE THAT IS CONSIDERED A IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED LIKE A MINOR COLLECTIVE.

IT IS NOT IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED IN OUR MAPS AND OUR CLASSIFICATION, SAYS THE LOCAL STREETS.

SO TO LAND LOCAL STREET USING THE GENERALIZED TABLE FOR A SERVICE SEE, WHICH IS THRESHOLD IS SEVEN 300.

SO WHEN I'M CLOSE TO SHERMAN, SO IF YOU TAKE THE BAYRIDGE, WHICH PRETTY MUCH CLOSE TO THE SAME 4800, YOU HAD THE OTHER FOURTEEN, YOU RIGHT NOW 28.

ASSUMING A ROAD LIKE THAT CARRIES ABOUT 2000 MORE CARS ON A DAILY BASIS ON THE EXISTING TRAFFIC MAYOR WEBSITE, MR..

BAILEY. SO YOU GOT TO SO IF YOU HAVE 14 HUNDRED FROM THE NEW ONE, FOURTEEN HUNDRED FROM THE BAYRIDGE AND ANOTHER 2000 TRIPS IS PROBABLY EXISTING RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE IN THE FOUR TO FIVE THOUSAND ADT STILL WAYBILL SEVEN 200 BUT WOULD SAVE THIS GET APPROVED AND YOU GOT A HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE HOUSES.

JUST A HUNDRED. HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT'S THE FORTUNE 500 WE'RE ADDING TO THE EXISTING EXISTING PROBABLY CARRIES ABOUT TWO, MAYBE 3000 TRIPS.

AND AGAIN, AS THAT AREA DEVELOPS, IT IS CONSIDERED MORE OF A COLLECTOR STREET, WE ALL KNOW, BECAUSE IT COMBINES BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND BOMBADIER.

SO PEOPLE DO TAKE AS A CUT THROUGH.

SO THERE ARE SOME CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC THAT'S I'M SAYING TYPICALLY A STREET LIKE THAT.

DEALER THOUSAND.

THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CUTTING THROUGH TWO TO THREE THOUSAND TRIPS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT WE CAN'T GET ANY TIPS.

BUT JUST ROUGHLY LOOKING AT THAT TYPE OF ROAD, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT TYPE OF VOLUME.

YOU HAD THE 4500 FROM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

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BAYRIDGE HAS HUNDRED ALREADY PROGRAMED IN.

YOU'RE IN THE 5000 FOR THE ADT, WAY BELOW THE SEVENTY THREE HUNDRED FOR THE STANDARD FOR LEVEL SERVICE C, WHICH IS IN OUR PLAN.

DO YOU KNOW THE SPEED LIMIT ON THAT ROAD.

IT WAS THIRTY WASN'T IT. OR THIRTY FIVE.

THIRTY FIVE. OK, THANK YOU.

THAT'S I. OR SO I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, BECAUSE HE HE STARTED WHERE I WAS GOING, SO BECAUSE EVEN EVEN ADDING THE BAYRIDGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TO THE SELF CORRECT IS STILL BELOW. WAY BELOW.

IT'S AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO FROM THE UNASSERTIVE.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE LOOKING I THINK THEY HAD A 143 THIS 149 AGAIN.

FOURTEEN HUNDRED FROM THE BAYRIDGE.

FOURTEEN HUNDRED FROM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED FOR A NEW TRIP'S BEEN ADDED TO GAYNER ROAD.

ON TOP OF THE EXISTING TRIPS YOU STILL WAY BELOW THE SEVEN 300 UNDER THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ADT. OK, SO THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION AGAIN.

THEY'LL PROBABLY DO A MORE DETAILED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE FACTS AND THEN I'LL ASK THEM THE SAME QUESTIONS AS WELL.

I WANTED TO ASK OUR STAFF FOR EXPERT, BUT ALSO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. BRADLEY MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN, THANK YOU, MR. WATANABE, FOR THAT, MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN WITH THIS AREA IS THE COMPATABILITY, OK? AND THAT'S AND I'LL ASK YOU I'LL ASK MR. MOYAR AS WELL, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AND WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF AREAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS. AND WE DO HAVE RURAL, RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER AREAS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE WILDLIFE LIKE WE DO OVER HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING.

GET THEIR REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT AND ALSO THE SECOND QUESTION, JUST PIGGYBACKING TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, IF APPROVED NOW, IT WOULDN'T COME BACK TO US UNLESS THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.

IT WILL COME IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS IS ONLY PRELIMINARY.

I SAY YOU WILL SEE THIS AGAIN.

OK. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

OK, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC PORTION WAS ANSWER FOR ME.

SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

BUT THE COMPATIBILITY IS WHERE, BRIAN, CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE? THE LAND YOU SLIDE.

I THINK IT'S TWO SLIDES UP FROM THIS ONE.

OK, SO IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY, THIS IS SFR, WHICH IS THE HASHED AREA IN YELLOW TO THE WEST IS A LAND USE.

IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL LAND USE.

IT HAS A ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS GENERAL USE, BUT IT'S INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE WEST.

TO THE EAST IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

SO FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, IT'S THE SAME LAND USE THE DENSITY OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT FULLY BUILT OUT.

IT'S ABOUT FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, MAYBE MAYBE THREE UNITS PER ACRE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE 80 BY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE LOTS.

SO IN TERMS OF A DENSITY AND IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S BUILT, BUT WHAT'S POTENTIAL TO BE BUILT, THE DENSITY TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALL THOSE STREETS YOU SEE THERE, THE DENSITY OF THAT AREA IS ACTUALLY MORE DENSE.

IF IT GOT FULLY BUILT THAN WHAT THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSING AT TWO POINT FOUR SEVEN, THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO THREE PER ACRE IF THEY WERE FULLY BUILT.

SO THAT'S HOW STAFF REACHED THE CONCLUSION THAT WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST ADJACENT TO IT, THE DENSITY THAT COULD BE BUILT THERE IS MORE THAN WHAT THE OPPOSITION IS PROPOSING, EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD GO TO FIVE PER ACRE AND THE INDUSTRIAL TO THE WEST HAS A FACTOR OF FIVE UP TO ZERO TO FIVE.

BUT THE ZONING, WHICH IS G.U., REQUIRES A FIVE ACRE LOT ON THE THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST. SO THAT LAND USE IN THAT ZONING DON'T REALLY MATCH.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY COMPATIBLE.

THE THE AYANDA LAND USE IN THE GEEVES OWNING AREN'T REALLY COMPATIBLE.

SO THAT AREA, IF IT WAS EVER TO BE BUILT, IT WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY CHANGE IN ZONING TO SOMETHING ELSE, EITHER AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING OR SOME OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

THAT THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE REACHED THE CONCLUSION ON COMPATIBILITY, IF YOU GO TO THE SOUTH AS WELL, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME LARGER LOTS MR. BETTERNESS LOT IS ONE OF THOSE LARGE ONES.

BUT EVEN ON OCEAN SPRAY AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE STREETS BELOW THAT.

AGAIN, THAT DENSITY IS PROBABLY IN THAT THREE PER ACRE RANGE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALL 80 BY 125 FOR THE MOST PART, EXCEPT FOR SOME OF THE LARGER LOTS.

AND THEN BAYRIDGE IS JUST SOUTH OFF THE MAP, WHICH IS MATCHING WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AT 50 BY 125.

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AND THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CURRENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS WE HAVE LEFT IN THE CITY ESTIMATE OR I CAN LOOK THAT UP, I HAVE IT AVAILABLE.

IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT, I CAN CERTAINLY GET NO RUSH.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, I CAN LOOK AT IT AND COME BACK.

YEAH, THAT'LL WORK. OK, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCILWOMAN UNDER COUNCILMAN FELIX.

YEAH, WELL WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

OK. OK, I'LL HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR ENTRUSTMENT.

OK. YOU MS., WE'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS FROM HER.

I DID, I DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I'VE HAD SOME HANDOUTS AND I LEFT MY OFFICE AND I LEFT THEM IN THE COPY MACHINE THAT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU. BUT I THINK A BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS COMPATABILITY.

AND IF YOU TAKE THOSE EXHIBITS AND YOU BLOW THEM OUT.

WE'RE THE SAME COLOR AS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING, AS FAR AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT PROPERTY IS ALL FOUR OR FIVE UNITS OF THE ACRE.

NOW, EXCEPT FOR TO THE WEST, IT'S INDUSTRIAL, THOUGH IT'S FAR FROM RURAL.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ZONING.

THERE'S JUST LITTLE POCKETS KIND OF PEPPERED THROUGHOUT THE AREA, KIND OF SMALL, JUST A FEW LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED LONG TIME AGO, AND THEY JUST LIVED BASICALLY SURROUNDED BY HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR YEARS.

SO. IT'S THE WAY THAT THE COMPLAINERS IS WAS CREATED.

THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL IS ACTUALLY THE NON COMPATIBLE USE.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN THERE, BUT THIS IS NOT A RURAL SETTING.

THIS IS DEFINITELY VERY URBAN.

SO I THINK THAT THE OUR PROPOSAL IS VERY COMPATIBLE AND WHAT WE'VE SAID BEFORE.

I REALLY LIKE THE THE PD IS NOT ONLY ARE WE PRESERVING THE REQUIRED 25 PERCENT OPEN SPACE, WE'RE ACTUALLY CREATING 43 PERCENT OPEN SPACE ON THE SITE.

SO. AS FAR AS WHERE THE PERIMETER OF THE SURROUNDING HAS BASICALLY ZERO OPEN SPACE, SO WE BY ALLOWING US TO CLUSTER THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY AND KEEP THE DENSITY LOWER THAN THE SURROUNDING, WE'RE ACTUALLY PRESERVING 43 PERCENT OF THE OPEN SPACE.

SO WE WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE.

IT'S JUST THAT NATURE OF THAT AREA.

I MEAN, IT'D BE DIFFERENT IF WE WERE WAY SOUTH, YOU KNOW, DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE ALL THAT RURAL PROPERTY.

BUT THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.

AND AS THE YOUR STAFF SAID, I THINK THE TRAFFIC IS IS GOING TO BE OK IF THERE'S ANY RIGHT AWAY THAT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO ANY ROADWAY, IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, ANY WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE THAT'LL BE MADE BY THE DEVELOPER, MADE AND PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER AT ABSOLUTELY NO EXPENSE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THIS IS THIS THIS IS TO BE BOUGHT BY HOLIDAY BUILDERS, IT WILL BE DEVELOPED BY THEM, AND THEN THE HOMES WILL BE BUILT BY THEM.

THEY'RE A LONG STANDING QUALITY DEVELOPER IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE JUST FINISHED TWO SIMILAR PODS IN THE CITY VERY SUCCESSFULLY.

VERY NICE DEVELOPMENTS, ALL THE BUILDERS, A VERY GOOD PRODUCT.

AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE GOT A VERY LONG STANDING OF, YOU KNOW, HISTORY HERE IN PALM BAY THAT I THINK THAT THE REPUTATION PRECEDES THEM.

SO THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

THEY HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT, A GOOD COMPANY.

AND THIS THIS WILL BE DONE AT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT OUR CONSTRUCTION CREWS GOING ONTO PROPERTY THAT THEY DON'T BELONG ON. WE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM ON OUR PROPERTY TO STAGE OUR OWN EQUIPMENT AND DO AND TRY TO IMPACT THE THE RESIDENTS AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANTS COUNCILORS HERE, IF THERE'S ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEED TO ASK.

HE IS HERE TO ASSIST IN THOSE.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU DO HAVE, SIR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. OR ON YOUR PROPERTY, THERE IS WETLANDS.

YES. OK, ARE YOU GOING TO PRESERVE THAT? YES, SIR. HOW MUCH? GENTLEMEN, HAS THAT CUT OUT? IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.

HOW MUCH ROOM THAT HE HAS TO THE NEAREST HOUSE THAT YOU PROPOSED TO BUILD THE CLOSEST HOUSE WILL BE TO HIS WEST WILL BE ABOUT 150 TO 200 FEET FROM HIS WEST PROPERTY LINE TO

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OUR EAST, MOST PROPERTY BOUNDARY FOR ANY HOME.

HE DOES HAVE A VERY LARGE PROJECT PROPERTY.

AND THERE WAS A APPEARS TO BE A LAKE, A WETLAND OR A LAKE IN THE WEST PART OF HIS PROPERTY. SO FROM HIS HOUSE TO ANY OTHER HOUSE WOULD PROBABLY BE OVER 500 FEET.

BUT YOU HEAD IN ANY DIRECTION, YOU HAVE NO PROPOSALS TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THE WETLANDS OR RIGHT UP TO HIS HIS PROPERTY.

NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.

I SAW HIM. I MEAN.

COUNCILMAN FELIX. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BETWEEN YOU AND STAFF.

TERMS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, SO.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS, 43 PERCENT, I'M LOOKING AT THE THE PROPOSALS PROPOSAL, 43 PERCENT, THAT'S QUITE A BIT.

AND THAT THAT I BELIEVE THAT.

THIS IS VERY YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD APPROACH TO A PROJECT WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, THE NEIGHBOR THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS DID A GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF BUILDING 100 AND 150, 125, 250 FEET ON THE WEST, 40.

EARN FORTY NINE TOTAL.

I THINK BOTH TO THE WEST TO TO BOTH SIDE NORTH AND SOUTH.

I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

I CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT, WHATEVER OUR REQUEST, LOOKING AT ONE, TWO, THREE INCH ENTRANCES. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. ONE OF THE PRINCIPLE ENTRANCES.

YES. WHAT ARE THE PLAN IN TERMS OF STREET LIGHTS? I'M NOT SURE WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING OR ASKING OF THE PROJECT.

STREET LIGHT ENTERING THE THE ENTRANCES.

MM HMM. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY PLAN IN TERMS OF PUTTING ANY STREETLIGHTS TO TO BOTH SOUTH AND NORTH OF THE OF THE PROJECT? I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

THAT'S A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD FOR THOSE DECISIONS I'M JUST PUTTING OUT THERE.

YEAH, I BELIEVE IF OF THE TWO THAT WE'VE DONE RECENTLY THAT THEY'LL HAVE STREET LIGHTS IN THE PROJECT. I.

AND STAFF PRETTY MUCH COVERED AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN FOR ME.

I TRAVEL THAT I TRAVEL GAIN OR GAIN OR QUITE A BIT.

I LIVE IN BAYSIDE. SO WHEN I'M GOING TO THE WEST NORTHWEST OF THE CITY, THAT'S USUALLY MY I RECENTLY DISCOVERED I MEAN, THE GREATEST THING, BUT I DO TRAVEL WITHIN THE SPEED LIMIT MR. BATON, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

AND I DON'T EVER REALLY I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL IMPACT.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD STAFF DID ADDRESS SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS A RESULT OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I THINK STILL NEED TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT IT.

SO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC FIGURE.

BUT I CAN'T I CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU. AND TO TO ADDRESS YOUR TRAFFIC COMMENT, I DID HAVE KIND OF LIKE A TRAFFIC PATTERN HAND OUT THAT I WAS GOING TO PROVIDE.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS IN AND OUT OF HERE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GO S PAST ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO GET OUT OF HERE.

THEY CAN GO COME RIGHT OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY AND GO NORTH AND THEY CAN GO LEFT AND GO OUT TO GARVIE OR THEY CAN GO RIGHT AND GO OUT TO DEGROOTE.

SO A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC BE GOING NORTH, NOT EVEN GOING DOWN GAYNER AT ALL.

SO AND THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY EAST TO GET OUT TO THE GROUP.

AND IF THEY HAVE TO GO SOUTH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS THEY CAN GO IF THEY WANT TO GO THAT WAY. SO IT'LL BE VERY, VERY SPREAD OUT.

WELL ONE OTHER THING AS WELL, I THINK IF YOU ALLOW ME, IS I CERTAINLY BELIEVE AS THE PROJECT ADVANCE, WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER SOME TURNING LANE.

I THINK THAT WILL CERTAINLY HELP.

LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE.

THAT STREET IS QUITE WIDE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND DEFINITELY SOME STREET LIGHTS.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND WE WILL PROVIDE STAFF WITH A FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC ANALYSIS DONE BY A CERTIFIED TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

MR. MR. MOYAR JUST ITS OWN.

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OR RIGHT, SIR, AH, IT IS SO AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED THAT HE'S GOT STAFF LOOKING TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE.

OWNED PROPERTIES WE HAVE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

WHY NOT DEVELOP THAT AS WELL? IS IT JUST THE BOTTOM LINE OR WHY NOT DEVELOP IT AS RURAL AND MAINTAIN THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR GREAT CITY, PART OF 88 SQUARE MILES OF THIS CITY, SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE THAT RURAL IN THE COMP PLAN.

AND I'M SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

BUT WHY NOT? DEVELOP THAT IF YOU IF YOU WANT IT TO DEVELOP THAT AS RURAL WITH MINIMUM ONE ACRE LOTS. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A MARKETING STRATEGY.

I DON'T KNOW ANY BUILDER THAT'S BUILDING ONE ACRE LOTS RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WHERE YOU HAVE THREE TO FOUR UNITS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, DIRECTLY TO THE EAST AND DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH.

THE THIS THIS WOULD IF THIS ZONING CHANGED, IT WOULDN'T ABUT ANY OTHER RURAL RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY A SUBDIVISION BETWEEN US AND THE BIG LOTS THAT MR BATTEN LIVES ON. SO WE THOUGHT THAT WITH WITH THE WETLANDS, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO.

PRESERVE ALL THAT AND AND, YOU KNOW, CLUSTER THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE ON THE UPLAND PARTS AND KEEP THAT AND PRESERVE I DON'T YOU KNOW, I.

I REALLY LOVE PRESERVING THAT TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN THAT RETIRED FROM THE ARMY COMING FROM NEW YORK CITY, HE HE LOOKED FOR THAT PROPERTY.

BASED ON THE ZONING WHERE HE COULD HAVE ENOUGH SPACE, HOWEVER, WE DON'T NEED EVERYONE GOING TO GRANVILLE VALKYRIE AS AN EXAMPLE, WE'RE SMALL, BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO IS HAVE A FIT IN PALM BAY FOR EVERYONE.

IF YOU DO WANT TO HAVE AN ACRE LOT, FIVE ACRE LOTS.

I REALLY FEEL THAT IF IT'S A ZONE ARE, THEN WHY NOT DEVELOP IT OR ARE BASED ON THAT COMPATIBILITY? YEAH, I DON'T NOT SURE IF IF OUR CAR IS COMPATIBLE WITH INDUSTRIAL AND USED TO THE WEST. BE COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU.

IT APPEARS THAT THIS AREA WAS THAT WASN'T PLANNED TO STAY RURAL FOR LONG.

YOU CAN'T PLAN IS, YOU KNOW, HAS FIVE UNITS, THE ACRE ON THE ENTIRE AREA NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL. I THINK THE PROPERTY TO OUR WEST.

I SOMEBODY TOLD ME THAT THAT'S WHERE TESTING WAS GOING TO BUILD THEIR PLAN.

I DON'T THINK IT EVER HAPPENED, BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN OUT THERE.

SO TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL IS EXTREMELY INCOMPATIBLE.

SO BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS ANYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE IS EXISTING.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A WHILE.

AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU CAN SEE LITTLE POCKETS OF RR SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT EVERYWHERE FROM MALABAR ROAD SOUTH TO PROBABLY TO, YOU KNOW, PASS LOMBARDIA AND ALL THAT.

SO THERE'S LITTLE POCKETS THAT HAVE MAINTAINED THAT.

BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY THREE TO FOUR UNITS TO THE ACRE OF OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT OUR COMPLAINT IS IS LACKING AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REALLY HAVING ONE IMPLEMENTED HERE.

BUT THAT'S NOT HELPING US TODAY.

DEPUTY MAYOR OF JOHNSON.

AS MAYOR AND I'M WITH YOU ON A LOT OF THIS.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK STAFF IN REGARDS TO COMPATIBILITY AND YOURSELF AND YOU ALL ANSWERED THE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, LOW DENSITY OPEN SPACE.

BUT ALSO CAN YOU SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, PREVENT UNSANITARY CONDITIONS, THAT PORTION OF IT? WELL, YES. OR SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY SEPTIC TANKS.

I KNOW THEIR SEPTIC IN THE AREA.

WE WOULD BE BRINGING SEWER TO THE PROPERTY.

WE WILL BE ACTUALLY LESSENING BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WEST AND THE NORTH.

WE WILL BE ABUTTING A CANAL, MELBOURNE TILLMANN CANAL.

SO TO HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON A CANAL THAT DUMPS INTO THE RIVER IS WOULD BE SUPER UNDESIRABLE. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD GET WITH ONE ACRE LOTS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD GET.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE.

ALL THAT'S ALL THAT PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE THREE AND FOUR UNITS, THE ACRES ON SEPTIC. AND IF YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CANAL.

THAT'S A PROBLEM, WE'RE NOT GOING WE'RE GOING TO PUT EVERYTHING INTO SEWER AND TAKE IT TO THE TO THE CITY SYSTEM, AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MELVIN TILLMAN THERE, DRAINAGE

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REQUIREMENTS ARE VERY STRICT.

THEY ACTUALLY MAKE YOU REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DISCHARGE BY ABOUT A TENTH OF WHAT IT WAS IN THE EXISTING CONDITION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING LESS RUNOFF, WHICH IS POLLUTING.

SO WE'LL BE GENERATING A LOT LESS WHEN WE DEVELOP, AFTER WE DEVELOP THAN WE ARE CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE MELBOURNE TELVIN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.

SO I THINK I HOPE I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

IT WAS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD WITH MR. MOYER IS MR. BRADLEY OR UNLESS COUNCILMAN BAILEY DO WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU THAT THE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT WE ARE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PUT ON BY YOUR STAFF AND YOUR STAFF. REPORTERS THINK THERE WAS FOUR OR FIVE CONDITIONS.

WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. AND IN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, WE HOPE THAT HOLDS SOME WEIGHT AS WELL.

SO I HAD THE LAND USE MAP AND WE SPEAK RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE.

YEAH, I HAD THE LAND USE MAP PUT UP AND RECEIVE THIS, SO.

THIS IS THE PARCEL RIGHT HERE.

THESE TWO PIECES, THE OTHER AREAS IN THIS DARKER GREEN ONE HERE BY HARPUR, ONE OVER HERE BY HARINGTON, THOSE ARE ALSO A RESIDENTIAL IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA.

AND THOSE ARE ALL UNDEVELOPED AT THE MOMENT IN TERMS EXCUSE ME, IN TERMS OF RURAL, RESIDENTIAL, CITYWIDE.

I HAVE THE CALCULATIONS HERE.

THERE ARE SIX HUNDRED AND FIVE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITHIN THE CITY, ABOUT 2800 AND 37 ACRES, WHICH IS ABOUT SIX POINT ONE PERCENT OF THE TOTAL LAND AREA WITHIN THE CITY IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

THAT'S ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF LOTS OF THE 605.

IT'S PROBABLY LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF ALL.

THE LOTS OF THE CITY ARE RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S ABOUT SIX PERCENT OF THE LAND AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY LARGER LOTS.

SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU SOME LARGER PERSPECTIVE ON IT.

I CAN'T TELL YOU FROM THIS CALCULATION HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE STILL UNDEVELOPED, BUT THE TWO IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ASIDE FROM THE ONES THAT ARE WHERE MR. BATTON LIVES IN HIS STREET, THAT'S ALL RURAL RESIDENTIAL THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN.

AND THEN THE TWO VACANT ONES TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST, THOSE ARE RURAL, RESIDENTIAL, UNDEVELOPED AT THE MOMENT.

OK, ONE MORE QUESTION HERE.

AND THEN IT WAS MENTIONED THAT CURRENTLY, AS IT IS, RURAL RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL TO THE WEST.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? THE THE RURAL THE AREA HERE TO THE WEST, THIS AREA IS ONE.

IT'S IF IT DEVELOPS AS INDUSTRIAL, THE FAA IS FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE.

COULD BE YOU COULD PUT A FIVE STORY BUILDING ON.

IT HAS TO BE ON A FIVE ACRE LOT BECAUSE A FIVE ACRE LOT IS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE ZONING. BUT IT COULD BE A FIVE STORY BUILDING AND THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS OF A FIVE IS QUITE DENSE IN TERMS OF DENSITY.

IT'S JUST A LOT SIZE BECAUSE IT'S A ZONE.

BUT THE USES AND YOU DON'T REALLY ALLOW INDUSTRIAL.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THERE'S A REAL INCOMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE LAND USE THAT'S OUT THERE AND THE ZONING THAT'S OUT THERE.

YOU CAN'T BUILD INDUSTRIAL IN G.U., SO YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU CAN DO A MINE.

THEY CAN OPEN UP A MINING OPERATION OUT THERE AND MINE ROCK ON A FIVE ACRE PIECE OF LAND.

BUT THEY REALLY COULDN'T BUILD A FACTORY OR SOMETHING INDUSTRIAL TO MANUFACTURE THINGS BECAUSE THE LAND, THE ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT.

SO THERE'S A REAL INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE LAND USE AND ZONING ON THAT WESTERN PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. OK, COUNCILMAN BAILEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? NO, MAYOR. OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.

AND AS FOR EMOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S NINETEEN.

UH. WINNING APPROVAL OF THE PUDI PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS RICHMOND COVE PD, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF ADJACENT TO GAYNOR DRIVE, THE VICINITY NORTH OF OCEAN SPRINGS STREET.

SIXTY POINT TWENTY TWO ACRES.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SENT IN BY COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER, I'M GOING TO

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I'M NOT FOR THIS AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I DON'T THINK IT IS COMPATIBLE.

I REALLY WANT TO PRESERVE THE RURAL AREAS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE THAT THE DEVELOPER DOES HAVE THE OPTION TO BUILD ONE ACRE LOTS.

I THINK THAT IF THEY TRULY WANTED, THEY PURCHASED IT AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT KEEPING THAT TYPE OF ZONING, THAT TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHERS TO COME TO PALM BAY AND AND NOT NOT HAVE TO GO TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IF THEY WANT AN ACRE LOT, IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOSS, IF THEY WANT FIVE ACRE LOTS SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY THRIVE JUST JUST LIKE THE CITY OF PALM BAY REALLY SHOULD HAVE OUT OF IT ARE 88 SQUARE MILES, SHOULD HAVE RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

WE SHOULD HAVE MORE OF IT.

WE SHOULD PRESERVE MORE OF IT.

WE ARE GROWING, GENTLEMEN.

WE INDEED ARE. AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE OTHERS OPPORTUNITIES TO COME HERE AND AND MOVE IN AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

I WOULD HOPE THAT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS, OUR RESIDENTS DO GET ENGAGED SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY PRESERVE PALM BAY.

I REMEMBER PALM BAY ROAD, QUITE FRANKLY, AND AND THERE WAS RIGHT ON PALM BAY ROAD, WHAT I GUESS LIFE LIFEPOINT CHURCHES NOW WHAT SPACE HARLEY IS NOW OR THAT THERE WERE THERE WERE TOWNS OUT THERE AND THERE WAS ONE ONE HOME WAY OUT THERE.

PERHAPS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WAY BACK THEN, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THAT STILL MAINTAINING THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND SO I WON'T BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

MAYOR, IT'S A THANK YOU AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS MAKING SURE I WAS ASKING AS MANY QUESTIONS AS I COULD.

AND I'LL YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT THE EXPERT, THE EXPERT OPINIONS FROM OUR STAFF, FROM FROM MR. WATANABE AND MR. BRADLEY IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, ONE EIGHT FIVE POINT ZERO THREE ONE WITH RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

AND IT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO COMPATIBILITY.

SO IT SPEAKS TO THE LOW DENSITY THAT PREVENT UNSANITARY CONDITIONS AND PROVIDE SUFFICIENT OPEN SPACE AND ALSO SPEAKS TO THE TRAFFIC PORTION, WHICH BASED OFF THIS, THEY COVER THAT.

SO REGARDLESS OF HOW I DO FEEL, BECAUSE I AGREE AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THAT NUMBER OF HOW MANY IS HOW MANY RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE IN THE CITY.

BECAUSE WE DO NEED EVEN IF IT'S SIX PERCENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BUILD OUT THE WHOLE CITY, WANT TO PRESERVE A BASE OF WHAT I SEE RIGHT HERE.

I DON'T SEE WHERE I CAN VOTE NO AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF THIS.

AND IF CITY ATTORNEY THE ELABORATE BETTER THAN I DID OR HELP ME OUT, BUT I THINK I STATED IT PRETTY ELOQUENTLY.

ADAM SMITH. THIS CERTAINLY IT DEPENDS UPON HOW EACH MEMBER WEIGHS THE EVIDENCE, BECAUSE CERTAINLY YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO WEIGH THE EVIDENCE. YES, WE HAVE.

CERTAINLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC, I THINK, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO RELY UPON THE EXPERTS, BUT AS FAR AS COMPATIBILITY, YOU CAN LOOK AS FAR AS THE MAPS, YOU CAN RELY UPON THE ACTUAL WITNESSES.

THE WITNESSES CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE TESTIMONY THAT YOU CAN RELY UPON AS FAR AS THE CONDITIONS OF THE AREA, WHAT THEY EXPERIENCED AS FAR AS THE PERSON WHOSE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE AROUND MR., BILL BRATTON, WHO'S IN THAT AREA, THAT TYPE OF LATE TESTIMONY AS FAR AS COMPATIBILITY YOU ALL CAN CONSIDER, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF HOW YOU WEIGH THE EVIDENCE AND HOW IT IS THAT YOU VIEW.

THE AREA THEY ARE IN.

THE WEIGHT THAT YOU PUT ON TO THE AIR, PERHAPS WHAT'S GOING ONTO ANOTHER SIDE OF IT, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, AS FAR AS THE YOU CAN PUT A SEAT AS A TRANSITIONAL AREA AND YOU MAY PUT MORE WEIGHT ON SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT SAYS. YOU MAY LOOK AT IT, AS THE MAYOR SAID.

AS FOR AND SOME OF THE WITNESSES, AS FAR AS LOOKING AT IT AS RURAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE GOT.

AND THAT MAYBE THAT THIS ZONING IS FINE.

IT SHOULD. STAY, NO ONE'S ENTITLED TO THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE.

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SO AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC, YES, YOU HAVE TO DEFER TO THE EXPERTS.

BUT AS FAR AS AFFORDABILITY, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT EVIDENCE AND IT'S REALLY A BOARD MEMBER TO DECIDE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO WEIGH IT.

THANK THANK YOU. SO PART OF THAT IS THE TESTIMONY OF THE INDIVIDUALS, THE GENTLEMEN THAT BUILD BUILD THIS HOUSE, ACCORDING JUST RECENTLY FIVE ACRES, ACCORDING TO WHAT ZONE HE EXPECTS SOMEONE ELSE TO BUILD THEIR RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

THE SAME WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME FROM NEW YORK, RETIRED ARMY SOLDIER, AND THAT'S HOW THEY SAW THE COMPLEXITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT LED TO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.

AND THEN COUPLED WITH I BELIEVE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE SHOULD IDENTIFY OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN OUR 88 SQUARE MILE, THAT TYPE OF ZONING, THAT TYPE OF.

NEIGHBORHOODS, IF YOU WILL.

YES, AS CARRY ON, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN FELIX, I, I FEEL YOUR PASSION, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT I MUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH GWISAI, WE NEED TO TAKE ALL FEELINGS OUT OF THE WAY AND LOOKED AT THE FACTS.

COUNCILMAN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON CLEARLY I THINK AS YOU SAID, YOU ELOQUENTLY JUST SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING.

WE WE WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY LIKE CERTAIN ASPECTS AND SO ON.

BUT GWISAI, I MEAN, AS FAR AS I'M SEEING IT BASED ON STAFF, WE ALL THE ALL THE BOXES ARE CHECKED. I THINK THIS PROJECT.

WE WE WILL HAVE ALL VIEWS ON HOW HE MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT, BUT THE FACTS ARE I THINK THIS THIS PROJECT IS COMPATIBLE.

IT'S FINE. THEY COULD DO, YOU KNOW, THE LAND USE AS IT IS NOW, FIVE PER ACRE.

HEY, WHAT'S OK, MR. BATTEN, PLEASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO PUTTING IT ON THIS ONE FOR I MISSED THE POINT OF ALL OF MY PAPER.

THANK YOU. THE LAND USE, I THINK THEY GO.

THEY GO EVEN THEY DOING PUTTING LESS PER ACRE, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, LESS PER ACRE THAT THEY COULD HAVE. I'M, I'M LOOKING AT EVERY ASPECT OF IT.

I DON'T SEE HOW NECESSARILY WE COULD DENY THIS.

I THINK IT'S THE COMPATIBILITY ASPECT IS THERE.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT IS THERE TO ME.

LIKE I SAID AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST REINFORCED THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT IT'S NOT.

YEAH. EMOTIONALLY, WHAT I WANT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO TO INCLUDE MORE OF THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL. BUT WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS THE TESTIMONY OF OUR RESIDENTS.

I'M REFERRING TO THEY BUILT THEY'RE EXPECTING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAINTAIN THAT ARE ZONING AND AND BASED ON THAT AND BAILEY, IF I MAY ASK YOU TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT HOLD ON ONE SECOND. RIGHT. THE RR THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, ABOUT FIVE ACRE LOSS THAT BE WONDERFUL, BUT IT'S A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE.

SO YOU BUILD ON THAT ONE ACRE.

BUT IT IS TESTIMONY THAT I CAN I CAN WEIGH MY DECISION BASED ON THE TESTIMONY FROM THE RESIDENTS BASED ON THAT THAT TYPE OF OF ZONING.

SO WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION AND YOU WERE GOING TO ASK? NO, I WAS JUST ONE MENTIONED.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE.

I WOULD SAY IF YOU LOOK THAT, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND I GIVE YOU MORE OF A VISUAL.

I'VE GOT THE VISUAL THAT I NEED, OK? AND I'M JUST SAYING. SO HOW THE PROPERTY RIGHT IN THE CENTER.

I DON'T THINK THIS HAVE ANY IMPACT ON IT AT ALL.

I MEAN, THE GENTLEMAN, I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN.

I DON'T SEE HOW THIS COMMUNITY WILL IMPACT THIS PARTICULAR THE FIVE ACRE.

YOU KNOW, LAND LANDOWNER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT AND WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY RIGHTS, I THINK THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD ONE ACRE LOTS.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S OWN.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING, IS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD ONE ACRE LOTS.

BUT SOMETHING ELSE IS DRIVING THEM NOT TO BUILD ONE ACRE LOTS.

SO THAT'S I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS.

I KNOW COUNCIL WILL WEIGH IN AND THEIR THEIR OPINIONS, BUT MY OPINION IS I RATHER THEY

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BUILD YES, BUT ONE ACRE LOTS.

SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I GUESS THIS BEFORE THIS, PATRICIA, BECAUSE STAFF MADE IT CLEAR THAT.

CURRENTLY, THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL TO THE WEST.

WOULD THAT MEAN, LIKE WE'RE ALREADY IF IF WE REMAIN RURAL RESIDENTIAL HERE, WE'RE SETTING UP NOT REALLY A PRESENCE, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL TO THE WEST IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE TO BECOME COMPATIBLE.

OR YOU GET WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK LIKE.

WE ARE AND I'M SORRY, I'M JUST I UNDERSTAND, BUT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IT'S.

I DON'T KNOW HOW RELEVANT IT IS TO THIS CASE AS FAR AS WHETHER IT THAT WAY.

CERTAINLY IF SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT LAND AND THAT MAY COME UP AND YOU MAY HAVE TO LOOK AS FAR AS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT OTHER PROPERTIES.

BUT I THINK THIS FOCUS SHOULD BE MORE ON HOW IF YOU CHANGED.

THE AREA, BECAUSE PUDI HAS IS ITS OWN ZONE, SO YOU TAKE IT FROM THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL, YOU ALLOW IT TO HAVE THIS PIECE YOU NEED, IT GIVES IT TENTATIVE ZONING, HOW THAT CHANGE IN ZONING IS GOING TO AFFECT THE POLICIES AROUND IT, NOT SO MUCH HOW CHANGING IT MAY AFFECT WHAT'S ANOTHER AREA WITH A DIFFERENT ZONING MAY AFFECT.

SO WE'VE GOT THIS.

AH, WE CHANGED IT TO PUDI.

HOW DOES THAT CHANGE AFFECT THE PARCELS THAT ARE AROUND IT IN THAT VICINITY.

THAT'S REALLY THE COMPATIBILITY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

OK, AND.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING I WAS TRYING TO ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS I COULD, I SAW COUNCILMAN JUMPING IN.

I WAS TRYING TO ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS I COULD REGARDING COMPATIBILITY, MAKE SURE I TRY TO STICK TO IT AS WELL AS I COULD.

BUT ALL A WHILE, MS., COUNCILMAN, FELIX ON THE SAME PAGE.

I PERSONALLY, WITHOUT GETTING INTO IT TOO MUCH, DO THINK IT HAS A DIRECT EFFECT TO THE GENTLEMAN. I FORGOT YOUR NAME, SIR, BUT I DO THINK IT HAS A DIRECT EFFECT TOMATE LIKE IT'S LITERALLY FOR ANYBODY WHO CAN'T SEE THE MAP, IT'S IT'S ALMOST LIKE A U LIKE RIGHT AROUND. SO BASED OFF THAT EYE, THAT'S WHERE I WAS WHEN MY COMPATABILITY ON WHICH MY LEGAL, MY LEGAL TEAM SAYING I CAN.

BUT NOW I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS REGARDING DENSITY CONDITIONS IN OPEN SPACE. SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS REALLY CONFLICTED.

SO BUT I DO KNOW WE ALSO HEAR IF THIS DOES GO FOR IT, WE'LL SEE IT AGAIN IN GREATER DETAIL, BUT.

YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

COUNCILMAN, OUR CUSTOMER FOSTER.

STAND BY FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T INCLUDED COUNCILMAN BAILEY, SO I WANTED TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN BEFORE YOU WEIGH IN AGAIN.

COUNCILMAN BAILEY. I CAN HEAR HIM THERE.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I APOLOGIZE, I JUST DROPPED, BUT IT WAS ONLY FOR A SPLIT SECOND HERE.

MY COMMENTS ON IT THAT NO, LOOK, I THINK COUNCILMAN PUBLIC ALREADY KNOW THAT I PREFER THE RURAL RESIDENTS AT THE STATE LIVING LARGE, A LOT LESS PEOPLE LESS INTENSELY.

GIVE US A CHANCE TO CATCH UP ON OUR COMMERCIAL BASE.

NO, OF COURSE NOT.

A QUESTION OF WHAT I WISH FOR OR EVEN WHAT NECESSARILY WHAT WE FEEL ARE OUR PEOPLE DON'T WISH FOR. THIS IS A QUESTION OF IS SOMETHING IN THE CODE.

THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL.

AND SO I DO URGE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT ONLY COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CAN REALLY BE CONSIDERED AND IMPROVING OUR DECISION.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY JUST CAN'T GET AROUND.

OVERWHELMINGLY, WHAT I'VE HEARD WAS ON THE RECORD, WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT OVER THIS COUNCILMAN OVER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WAS THAT ALL THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS DEFINED LEGALLY, NOT DEFINED BY OURSELVES, BY THE MAYOR OF ME OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT BY THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF WHAT WHAT COMPONENTS OF THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE IS.

ALL OF IT HAS BEEN ON ONE SIDE.

I DO. I FEEL FOR THE FILES.

AND I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO I REALLY APPRECIATE.

I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IN THE PAST ABOUT OTHER ISSUES AND I SEE HOW THEY IS

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AROUND THEM, BUT IS ALSO ALREADY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.

AND SAME THING FOR SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS WHO CORRESPONDED MY MARRIAGE BACK TO THEM, WHO CORRESPONDED ACTUALLY OWN AS PART OF WHAT THEY OWN DOWN THERE.

SOME OF IT IS OURS, TOO, AND SOME OF IT IS RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN ARGUE THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, IT WASN'T COMMON SENSE TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOT A CASE, HOWEVER, TO SAY THAT THERE IS A COMPATIBILITY ISSUE HERE.

BUT SECOND OF ALL, EVEN FROM WHAT EVIDENCE, WHICH WOULD NOT BE DEEMED IN COURT TO BE SUBSTANTIVE AND COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE EVEN THERE, IT'S ALWAYS YOUR PROPERTY HAS THAT NAME, BUT THEY CAN'T HAVE ANY COMPATIBILITY OF WHAT WE MIGHT REFER TO AS INCREDIBILITY. I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN JUSTIFY THAT.

I JUST TO ME, THERE IS NO WAY IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I WISH LEGISLATIVELY.

THIS IS NOT LEGISLATED AS FAR AS JUDICIAL AND I HAVE TO SUPPORT IT AS IT'S MOVE FORWARD.

THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAYAGE, EVACUATION ON THE STREETS AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE BEING ADDRESSED. AND I HEARD THEM ADDRESS EARLIER WITH DIFFERENT QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ASKING A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS THIS EVENING, BUT THERE'S JUST NO WAY FOR ME TO HAVE RURAL RESIDENTIAL WITH RS2 ALL AROUND IT ALREADY.

FOR US TO SAY IS NOT COMPATIBLE.

I'M NOT SURE YOU DID YOU LISTEN TO WHAT MR. SMITH SAID ABOUT THE LAYMAN TESTIMONY.

OR WOULD DID YOU DROP THE CALL? I DIDN'T I DID NOT CLEARLY HEAR EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID TO ME, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST.

SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

AND I KNOW SHE WAS ADDRESSING THE WEIGHT OF TESTIMONY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE KNOW THAT THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS WHAT WE NEED THE DECISIONS ON.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AND GHIMIRE. WE GOT TO WAIT.

THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL WE GOT TO RAISE.

LAST WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.

WE GOT TO SUPPORT THE EVIDENCE THAT'S FOREMOST DOES COME IN FRONT OF US, ESPECIALLY THE EXPERT TESTIMONY AND I CALL THAT STAFF.

I FEEL FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAS HIS HOUSE THERE.

I CAN IMAGINE THAT HE'D NEVER DREAM THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING TO COME AND BUILD AROUND HIM.

BUT I ASK THE QUESTION, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THE WETLANDS WAS THE CLOSEST HOUSE TO HIM. SO.

I DON'T THINK AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAD HE SAID HE HAD THE GENTLEMAN HOUSE IN MIND WHEN HE DREW THAT PLAN UP, SO.

THE ENVIRONMENT, THE WETLANDS IS GOING TO BE THERE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON A WETLANDS, THAT'S WHAT HIS STATEMENT THERE'S NO PLANS SHOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT ON A WETLAND TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE A STUDY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED.

THE DEVELOPER SAID HE WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MITIGATE ANY ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC.

AND THEN WE GOT A DOW INDUSTRIAL LOT RIGHT NEXT TO THAT LAND.

KIND OF CRAZY, I CAN'T PLAN.

IS ALL SCREWED UP.

IT'S NOT THESE IT'S NOT THE RESIDENT FAULT.

BUT THE CITY DIDN'T DO A GOOD COP PLAN.

NOW. WE HAVE WE IN THIS SITUATION WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THEM. AND WHAT DID DECIDE WHAT TYPE OF AREA IN THE CITY THEY WANT TO LIVE IN? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY NO RURAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

I DON'T THINK THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS THIS CASE.

WE NEED TO LOOK ON THE MERITS OF THIS CASE AND NOT THINK ABOUT WHAT? ISD NEED TO LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A CAR PLAN, WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND DO A COMP PLAN FOR THE CITY WHEN WE GOT SCREWED UP.

THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF IT.

IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF IT DOESN'T FIT THE VISION THAT THIS COUNCIL IS TRYING TO GO TO.

YOU KNOW, I LIKE RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

WHAT A CITY. BUT.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING TO.

I CAN'T FIND ANY REASON TO VOTE AGAINST US.

BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HEAR MS. THE BATON. I TOOK WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT.

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HE LIVES IN THE AREA.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I HEAR THIS GENTLEMAN IS GOING TO BE BUILT AROUND THEM.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT.

STAFF. AND I ASKED THE QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND I ASKED A DEVELOPER.

WHAT THE PLAN, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, I CAN'T FIND A REASON TO GO AGAINST IT, NOT THAT I WANT TO GO AGAINST IT, BUT I CAN'T FIND A REASON WHEN I WEIGH WHAT STAFF SAYS AND WEIGH IN WITH THE RESIDENTS SAYING I CAN'T FIND FACTS TO DENY THIS MY VOTE.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT LIKE THAT DUE TO THE.

IN 45, MAYOR.

YES, MADAM SMITH.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TOSSING BACK AND FORTH COMPATIBLE, AND I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A SENSE OF WHAT IT MEANS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF I READ WHAT THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF COMPATIBILITY WAS ON ME EARLY ON IN COMPATIBILITY MEANS A CONDITION IN WHICH LAND USES OR CONDITIONS AND CAUSES RELATIVE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER IN A STABLE FASHION. OVER TIME, THAT'S NO USE OR CONDITION IS UNDULY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY BY ANOTHER USE OR CONDITION.

AND I THINK IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING TO DEPUTY MAYOR, AS FAR AS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT COMPATIBILITY, IS THE.

A PROPOSED USE AND THOSE USES THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS COMPATIBILITY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. I AM OPPOSED PASSES FOUR TO ONE, WE'RE ON TO NUMBER EIGHT.

OR IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S THIRTY ONE, AN ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AND ABANDONED IN A PORTION OF THE ROAD, RIGHT OF WAY OF THE EXISTING CUL DE SAC ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FORCE NO DRIVE AND TREE RIDGE LINE WITHIN PINEHURST SUBDIVISION AS RECORDED IN BOOK 25 PAGE 132 OF THE PUBLIC RECORD OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, LEGALLY DESCRIBED HERE IN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT HIS CASE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS A REQUEST THAT WAS MADE AND APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO FOR A PROJECT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS BASICALLY AN OLD CUL DE SAC THAT'S NOT USED FOR ANYTHING.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO VACATE IT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT PROJECT BACK TO LIFE.

SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO VACATE THE RIGHT AWAY AS IT WAS APPROVED BEFORE.

BUT IT EXPIRED BECAUSE NOTHING HAPPENED.

WE'VE WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ALL THE UTILITY COMPANIES AND WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE WHATEVER EASEMENTS ARE NECESSARY.

AND THEN WHEN WE DO, THE PLAN WILL DEDICATE EVERYTHING ALL OVER AGAIN.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HERE TO ANSWER THOSE.

QUESTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WOULD JUST STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD, THE IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, THIS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN THE REPORT REGARDING DRAINAGE AND EASEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU HAVE REMOVED JOHNSON AND SPEAKERS.

THOSE SPEAKERS. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION SHOULD APPROVE OF THIS TWENTY, TWENTY ONE DASH THIRTY ONE, INCLUDING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS. BUT FIRST, READING, SECOND OF A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'M GOING TO CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER NINE.

OR BEER? YEAH, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.

AND DEFER TO MADAM SHERMAN, SIR.

SO THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD FOR US KDB, GCB, THREE FUNDS.

WE'LL SEE. THERE'S SOME HISTORY IN THE POCKET OF THE VARIOUS MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD WITH THE CITIZENS OR THE CDB.

EXCUSE ME. THE END RESULT IS THAT THERE ARE SEVEN APPLICANTS WHO ARE RECOMMENDED FOR

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APPROVAL OF THE FUNDING, SEVEN GROUPS THAT WILL PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN. I'M GOING TO ASK THE PUBLIC, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU KNOW, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE CONSIDERATION OF KAHRIZAK ACT, SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 OR 2020 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FIRST FOR HEARING.

SO. I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL? HEARING NONE, I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE UP TO COUNCIL REPORTS. WE'LL BEGIN WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX AND I'M GOING TO DEFER MY TIME FOR NOW.

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COPY THAT. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

NO, NOT THIS TIME. COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACIOUSNESS AND BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE ME TONIGHT WHENEVER I NEED A RECOMMENDATION, ANOTHER NANOSOLAR IN THE NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WELL, I WOULD TAKE ALL THEIR TIME NOW I'LL BE BRIEF.

SO IT'S THREE THINGS UNLESS I CAN REMEMBER THE FOURTH, I CAN'T.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE START WITH SPACES LIKE CITIES.

WE JUST HAD WE HAD OUR MEETING MAY 10TH.

IN OUR GUEST SPEAKER WAS PETER CRANNIS FROM THE SPACE COAST OFFICE OF TOURISM, WHICH COUNCILMAN FELIX SERVES ON.

TERRORISM, YEP. OK, SO JUST MAKE SURE I GOT IT RIGHT.

SO HE WAS JUST GIVING US AN UPDATE ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO ENCOURAGE COUNCILMAN, FELIX AND JUST US TO REALLY FIGHT FOR THOSE DOLLARS, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, THE ONLY FUNDING WE'VE GOTTEN IS WITH.

D.C.. YES, WITH FRED, POPPY CAN'T I'M THE APPOINTEE TO THE TDC.

OK, I'M SORRY, I'M TALKING DIRECTLY THERE THEN.

BUT BECAUSE I FEEL I FEEL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING UP ONE FIFTH OF THE COUNTY AND WE'RE MAKING ONE OF THE BIGGEST IMPACTS.

SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECEIVE ON THAT IN AS WELL, ASIDE FROM JUST THE CAMPGROUNDS.

SO JUST I WANT TO ENCOURAGE COUNSEL, REALLY FIGHT THAT FIGHT.

BUT HE DID SHARE SOME ENCOURAGING WORDS.

SO THAT'S FROM THE SPACE COAST CITIES ON.

THEN WHERE IS IT? I SPOKE TO MR. MOYAR IN THE AUDIENCE ON AN ITEM THAT I ACTUALLY VOTED AGAINST AND HE WASN'T THERE TO REPRESENT BECAUSE I THINK YOU SEE SOMETHING IN HEALTH WISE OR SOMETHING WAS GOING ON.

BUT HE HE WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL.

I WAS LOOKING, YOU KNOW, FOR COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER BRINGING THAT CASE BACK, WHICH WE ALL GOT AN EMAIL ON HIS CASE, SEPI DASH ONE DASH TWENTY TWENTY ONE SEX CAPITAL GROUP LP, ALL BECAUSE HE SAID THERE'S. MISCONCEPTION AND A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WASN'T PROVIDED CORRECTLY TO US, SO I'M LIKE, ALL RIGHT, I TOLD HIM I MAY VOTE, VOTE IT DOWN AGAIN BASED OFF WHATEVER IT IS, BUT I'M WILLING TO CONSIDER AND SEE WHAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED. SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL JUST TO BRING THAT FOR JUST TO SEE WHAT INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED.

I VOTED FOR THAT AS WELL.

I WAS IN A VOTE ON THAT, I THINK THAT WAS THE YOU BEING THAT WAS THE GULF LOCATION BY JOE, DADDY, JOE, DADDY GULF.

THAT WAS BY THE SCHOOL LIKE TURNER ELEMENTARY.

YEAH, I'M STILL A NO VOTE ON THAT.

OK, I.

THEY'RE. MR. MAYOR, I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT WAS WHAT WAS BEING SAID, YOU COULDN'T HEAR ME BAILEY.

NO, SIR, I THOUGHT I HEARD IT BACK AND FORTH.

I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. OK, I HAVE MY HEAD TURNED, SO I APOLOGIZE.

SO I'LL REPEAT EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING.

SO I'LL SAY IT. I SPOKE TO MR. MOYAR, BRUCE MOYAR, AMBEV, AND THE ITEM THAT WE VOTED AGAINST YOU, ME AND OUR MAYOR MEDINA WE VOTED AGAINST, WE IT BACK UP.

KEEP THIS ONE DASH 20 TWENTY ONE SEX CAPITAL GROUP, THE GODADDY AREA.

HE WASN'T ABLE TO. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE, BUT THEY HAD TO STAND IN.

AND HE WAS SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WASN'T PROVIDED CORRECTLY AND WISH TO PROVIDE CORRECTLY.

SO I TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, I STILL MAY BE LEANING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

BUT IN ORDER TO DO SO, I TALK TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL HAVE TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR THAT TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW.

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YEAH, AND I AND I HAD SAID, I'M STILL IN ME ON THAT COUNCILMAN FELIX.

FOR THE RECORD, I DID VOTE YES FOR THAT ITEM.

I STILL STRONGLY FEEL THAT THIS COUNCIL MADE A MISTAKE.

VOTING IT DOWN, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR TO BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.

I THINK, WELL, I'LL I'LL REGRESS AND UNTIL HOPEFULLY THE ITEMS COME MY.

WE CAN GET CONSENSUS.

COUNCILWOMAN BAILEY. I APOLOGIZE, I DID NOT HEAR THE END OF WHAT MR. FELIX SAID. WHAT I SAID, I WHAT I DID VOTE YES FOR IT, SO I'M IN FAVOR THAT WE BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION, BUT FURTHER DISCUSSION.

MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST ASK PATRICIA TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE RECONSIDERATION AND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THAT VOTE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

YES, MADAM SMITH.

CURRENTLY. WE HAVE THAT.

RECONSIDERATION. ESSENTIALLY, WE HAVE A DENIAL OF A REQUEST BY COUNCIL OR.

THAT. IF IT'S DENIED THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE REFILED WITH THE CITY FOR A MINIMUM OF 12 MONTHS, HOWEVER, SAYS THE CITY COUNCIL OR ANY BOARD MEMBER MAY RECONSIDER THE SAME OR SIMILAR ISSUE WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD, IF MISTAKE, INADVERTENCE, SURPRISE OR EXCUSABLE NEGLECT HAS OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY, PROVIDED THAT THE EVENT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FORMED A BASIS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL OR ANY BOARD'S DECISION TO DENY THE REQUEST AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I DID SPEAK WITH STAFF WHEN I RECEIVED WHEN STAFF RECEIVED THE REQUEST AND I DIDN'T REVIEW THE REASONS THAT WERE PROVIDED.

AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ESSENTIALLY AUTOMATICALLY OR.

JUST SET BEFORE BIONDI, WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE LANGUAGE OF THE SAYS IS THAT THE LANGUAGE AS FAR AS THE MISTAKE UNIVERSE INADVERTENT IS EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

THAT IS ACTUALLY IT PRETTY MUCH MIRRORS ITS STANDARDS.

AND IN FLORIDA, RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE.

THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS, AS IF THE JUDGE RULED AGAINST THE CITY WHERE I COULD BRING IT BACK TYPICALLY.

AND THE CASE LAW THAT SUPPORTS IT IS EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I GOT A NEW ASSISTANT AND SHE CALENDARED THE WRONG DATE FOR ME TO PROVIDE MY RESPONSE.

SO THE JUDGE, YOU KNOW, ENDED UP ISSUING A DEFAULT.

SO I GO BACK. JUDGE, YOU KNOW, SO SORRY, MY APOLOGIES.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A CALENDARING ERROR.

AND THE COURT PREFERS TO ACTUALLY RESOLVE DECISIONS ON THE MERITS RATHER THAN ON TECHNICALITIES. SO EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

OPEN UP THE CASE. LET ME FILE MY RESPONSE AND LET'S MOVE ON FROM THERE.

AND I LOOK, BECAUSE I KNOW HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOMEBODY THERE THAT WAS SPEAKING FOR HIM THAT DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ME, MAKE SOME MISTAKES.

AND SO I LOOKED UNDER THE CIVIL PROCEDURE RULES AND THERE WAS A CASE ESSENTIALLY SAID.

DEALT WITH THE SAME ISSUE UNDER THAT STANDARD THAT A WITNESS MISSPEAKING ISN'T WHAT THEY CONTEMPLATED AS EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CALENDERS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WRONG.

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T GET NOTICED.

YOU MAYBE YOU FOUND IT IN THE WRONG PLACE.

I MEAN, THE JUDGE SIGNED OFF ON AN ORDER AND MAYBE IT HAD SOMETHING EXTRA THAT HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY MEAN BECAUSE THE PARTIES, YOU KNOW, GOING BY A TEMPLATE, THAT TYPE OF THING, IT DOESN'T IT TYPICALLY WOULD NOT APPLY.

WHEN YOU HAVE A HEARING ON THE MERITS, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, HE WAS SICK AND MAYBE COUNCIL DIDN'T KNOW THIS COUNCIL CAN PROCEED ON A CASE EVEN IF THE PERSON IS IN THERE.

SO YOU ALL PROCEEDED YOU HE WASN'T HERE.

HE DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE AND YOU CAME TO A DECISION AND TO DENY I MEAN, HE WAS LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T MEAN ANY HARM.

I WASN'T TRYING TO OFFEND COUNSEL.

I WAS ACTUALLY SICK.

AND SO YOU LIKE. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? OK, YOU WERE SICK, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO LET THIS COME BACK AND LET YOU PRESENT EVIDENCE THIS CASE WAS DIFFERENT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE PERSON DIDN'T

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PRESENT AS WELL AS HE MAY HAVE LIKED, YOU HAD SOME SOMEBODY WAS HERE AND COUNSEL ACTUALLY CONSIDERED THIS ON THE MERITS.

IF IT WAS SIMILAR, IF IT WERE A COURT CASE AND SOMEHOW I WAS IN COURT AND I DIDN'T HAVE A PARTICULARLY GOOD DAY OR SOMEBODY THAT WAS FROM MY OFFICE REPRESENTING THE CITY AND THE JUDGE RULED AGAINST US.

AND I SAY IT WAS ONE OF MY DEPUTIES ARE ASSISTANT ATTORNEYS, I COULDN'T ACTUALLY SAY, JUDGE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU TO RECONSIDER MY CASE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HAD I BEEN THERE, JUST SORT OF GAVE YOU THIS OUTSTANDING, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION AND MY COLLEAGUE JUST WASN'T QUITE UP TO SNUFF AS I AM.

PLEASE RECONSIDER UNDER THE COURT RULES THAT WOULD BE INSUFFICIENT AND THAT THE LANGUAGE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

IT WAS MY OPINION THAT IF IT WASN'T THE SAME, IF IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE COURT AND THE LANGUAGE MIRRORS IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE SUFFICIENT FOR YOU ALL AS A TRIER OF FACT.

BUT THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE ORDINANCE AND SAYS THAT'S THE CITY ATTORNEY'S DECISION.

SO IT DOES ALLOW COUNSEL TO CONSIDER.

BUT THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL SHOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENT DECISION.

IT'S JUST ESSENTIALLY THE LANGUAGE OF THE RULE IS I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY MUCH IDENTICAL TO THE FLORIDA RULES OF A PROCEDURE.

SO I LOOKED AT THE SIMILAR CASES AS FAR AS IF THAT TRIBUNAL WOULD IT BE A GOOD ENOUGH? AND FROM THE CASES I SAW, IT WOULD THANK ME.

OH, OH, OH.

I GUESS WE CAN GIVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK OUT.

OH, I'M FINE WITH YOU SPEAKING, SIR, BUT I WILL SAY IN I'M ALWAYS GOING TO LEAN ON LEGAL.

YOU CAN STILL SPEAK. YES.

IF THE MAYOR SAYS I'M JUST THINKING I YIELD TO HER.

YEAH. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO FOR HIM TO, TO COME UP.

IT'S GOING TO BE A DEFEATIST TYPE OF PRESENTATION.

IF HER RECOMMENDATION IS ALREADY CLEAR FOR US, THEN THERE'S NO REASON TO MOVE FORWARD AND. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO GET AT.

I'M A LITTLE LEGAL ON THIS ONE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO.

SHE'S ALREADY STATED EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS ON YOUR REPORTS.

BUT I ALSO YIELD TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

A CITY ATTORNEY, SO HER CITY, HER COUNSEL IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY, BUT YEAH, SO AS YOU WERE MR. MOYAR, WE'RE GOING TO YIELD TO HER.

I CAN I CAN I SPEAK.

SO SURE. IT'S.

COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER, GO AHEAD.

WOULD MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY? WE CAN'T BRING THIS BACK.

COUNCIL MEMBER CANNOT BRING THIS BACK, IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED OFF THE CIVIL LAW OR CIVIL PROCEDURE? A COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD ONLY BRING THIS BACK IF YOU WERE.

UNDER OUR ORDINANCE IS IF.

THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL.

AS FAR AS BRINGING IT BACK WITHIN 12 MONTHS, IF IT WAS A MISTAKE, INADVERTENT SURPRISE OR EXCUSABLE NEGLECT, AND I USE THE RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE BECAUSE IT HAS THAT SAME STANDARD, BUT THAT'S THE UNDER OUR ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED, THAT IS THE ONLY WAY COUNCIL COULD BRING THIS BACK WITHIN 12 MONTH PERIOD.

I KNOW WE KIND OF DISCUSSED MAYBE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY BEFORE, BUT THAT ORDINANCE DID NOT PASS. SO THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE IS IT DOESN'T COME BACK WITHIN 12 MONTHS UNLESS IT'S A MISTAKE AND A SURPRISE OR EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

AND THAT HAD TO HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FORMED A BASIS FOR THE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DENY, THAT'S A STANDARD THAT YOU ALL HAVE CURRENTLY.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

THANK YOU. YOU DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO REPORT ON THE.

YES, YES, SO I GOT TO I GOT TWO OTHER THINGS.

ALL RIGHT, REAL QUICK, I SHOW THIS TO THE CHIEF BRIEFLY.

I WANT TO SHOW IT TO EVERYBODY.

AND IT'S NOTHING IN REGARDS TO SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO VOTE ON.

BUT I'LL HOLD IT UP REAL QUICK, SO.

NATION ONE, NATIONALLY, THEY HAVE THIS ADOPT A COP PROGRAM AND IS FOR BRAZILIAN JUJITSU, AND IN DOING SO THEY ACTUALLY DID A STUDY.

SO LET ME ELABORATE ON THIS REAL QUICK, SO ADOPT A COP WHAT THEY DO THERE FOR GYMS THAT SPONSOR THIS OR WHO TAKE ON ADOPT A COP, THEY PROVIDE FREE TRAINING UP TO A BLUE BELT

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LEVEL WHERE OUR OFFICERS AND IN THE CITY.

WHERE IS IT? MARIETTA POLICE SAW DRASTIC MAJOR REDUCTION IN ARRESTS, INJURIES AMONG THEIR OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY ARE EVEN MORE TRAINED.

AND I KNOW I KNOW LOCALLY BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I FOUND OUT BECAUSE ONE OF THE FIRE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICERS LIVES HERE IN PALM BAY BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION.

AND HE WAS JUST SAYING, LIKE, HEY, JUST BRING THIS UP.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM AND JUST OUR OFFICERS JUST IN REGARDS TO PROTECTING THEMSELVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

SO IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE A SALES PITCH OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE CAN BENEFIT BOTH FROM OFFICER SIDE AND CITIZEN SIDE.

IT JUST SOMETHING JUST TO LOOK INTO, THAT'S ALL.

SO. SO ONE MORE THING HERE.

I GAVE ALL OF Y'ALL SO LAST PALM BAY CHAMBER LUNCH AND WE HAVE DR.

SOTO SPEAK. YEAH, WE HAD DR.

SOULSBY AND ALL FOUR OF US WERE THERE.

RIGHT. SO I SWUNG BY THE LAGOON HOUSE TWO DAYS AGO AND IT WAS I LOVED WHAT I SAW.

AND DON'T LET THIS SCARE YOU.

YES, WE ARE F PLUS.

BUT AT FIRST WE WERE A REGULAR F, SO WE HAVE GOTTEN BETTER.

BUT I SAY ALL THAT AND I'VE BROUGHT SEVERAL OF THESE PAMPHLETS BECAUSE I SEE ALL THAT.

AND I SPOKE WITH THEIR REGARDS, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE TALK ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY COMMERCIAL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RURAL RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL AS WELL, BECAUSE ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO HAVE IMPACT.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE GOING FORWARD WE INCLUDE LIKE THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL, WE DON'T JUST FOCUS ON THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN OF IT, BUT WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.

SO I BROUGHT PLENTY OF STICKERS FROM THEM.

SO IF ANYBODY WANTS ONE, TAKE ONE.

BUT THAT'S ALL ME.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT IT ENVIRONMENTALLY, TOO.

WELL, I LOVE THESE THESE REPORTS.

YOU BRING IT UP IN PARTICULAR WITH THE LAGOON.

AND AND KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME IDEALLY THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SIGN SO THAT WE COULD GET THOSE FILTRATION BAFFLEGAB.

BUT RIGHT ALONG THAT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LAGOON AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR IMPACT AND I KNOW I MENTIONED THAT, BUT MADAM SHERMAN, HAVE WE HAVE WE LOOKED AT A FEASIBILITY OF PERMEABLE CONCRETE WITH OUR BUILDERS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE IS THAT IS THERE A COST ANALYSIS OUT THERE? I'M SURE THERE IS MORE I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND IF ANY STAFF.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE IMPACT OF SURFACE WATER RUNOFF, I THINK THAT'S ALL RELEVANT.

SO PERHAPS WE COULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WAYS OF STUDYING THAT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I'M REALLY I'M REALLY THANKFUL.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND UNDER MY REPORTS, I'LL JUST SAY THAT IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING.

WE WE WE'VE HAD A SUCCESSFUL STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS.

AND I WANTED TO THANK EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WAS HERE AND AND THE COUNCILMAN BAILEY. I DID MAKE A COMMENT ON YOUR GIFTS AS WELL AND WHAT A GREAT TEAM WE ARE.

WE ALL BRING DIFFERENT GIFTS.

SO IF YOU GET A MOMENT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THROUGH THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL IN THE MIND REPORTS ON THE NEW BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS]

I'M GOING TO DEFER TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THIS ITEM THAT I'M BRINGING IS AND I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE SISTER CITY INTERNATIONAL.

COST IS ONE THOUSAND THIRTY DOLLARS ANNUALLY, SISTER CITIES, THE REASON WHY I'M PUSHING SISTER CITIES BECAUSE.

I BELIEVE IT COULD BE CULTURALLY ADVANTAGE TO THE RESIDENTS HERE AND ALSO ECONOMIC IMPACT BY HAVING MORE.

RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER CITIES, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO WANTS TO TRAVEL NOT JUST IN THE UNITED STATES BUT OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES AND TO BRING MORE CULTURE, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, MAYOR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THIS MAYOR, WITH ANOTHER SISTER, CITY MAYOR, TRADE RELATIONSHIP, HISTORICAL AND ANCESTRIES AND FAITH BASED GROUPS IN DIFFERENT CITIES.

I THINK PALM BAY COULD BENEFIT FROM IT.

AND IT'S VERY CITIES IN THIS COUNTY THAT HAVE SISTER CITIES.

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BUT I THINK JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE PODCAST FESTIVAL, THAT COULD BE A GREAT SEGWAY.

IT IS NOW. POLICE OR FIRE OR STAFF TO HAVE OTHER CITIES WORK, I THINK, AND BUILD ON THAT. SO I THINK IT'S A LOT OF WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IF WE COULD BECOME A SISTER CITIES. AND I WANT TO BRING THAT BEFORE COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU. WE DID DISCUSS THIS ON THE AIR REPORTS.

I REMEMBER THAT DEPUTY MAYOR OF JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR THIS ITEM? COUNCILWOMAN FELIX. LET ME SAY A FEW WORDS ON THAT ITEM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL, AS A BOARD, WE WE ALL WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

I ALREADY SEE THE BENEFIT.

WE HAVE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF OF AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THE CASCA REPRESENTING MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND EVEN THROUGH THEIR MEMBERSHIP AS WELL.

SO BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY TO CRIBBINS ONLY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS ALL OVER WITH OTHER CITIES.

I THINK OVERALL, IT COULD BE A LOT OF POSITIVE THAT MEMBERSHIP BUILDING ON THAT SISTER CITY SISTER CITY INITIATIVE CAN BE GREAT WITH THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A SERIES OF EVENTS, ONE OF WHICH ON THE 3RD OF JUNE, THEY WILL BE PRESENTED RIGHT HERE ON INL FACILITY, WILL BE AN EVENT SERIES OF A PARTICULAR EVENT WHERE THEY WILL BE PRESENTED A PROCLAMATION WHICH THAT SAME DAY TO THE COUNCIL GENERAL FROM HAITI IN ORLANDO REACH OUT TO ME.

HE HAS A DELEGATION COMING TO VISIT PALM BAY, A MAYOR FROM HAITI WITH STAFF MEMBERS.

THEY WANT TO COME AND CHECK THE CITY OUT, CHECK ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN SO ON.

SO WHAT A GREAT COLLABORATION ALONG JUST THE FACT THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME THROUGH CONVERSATION, I MENTIONED THAT TO HIM.

SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY COOL TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUT OF THIS.

PEOPLE COME BY, CHECK ALL OUR FACILITIES AND PRESENT A CARE PACKAGE SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, A WELCOME PACKAGE, AS YOU KNOW, MADAME SHERMAN MENTIONED.

SO I THINK IT BE A PRETTY COOL THING.

NOT ONLY WE ARE TAKING CARE OF HOME AND WE'RE REACHING OUT AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AS WELL. AND I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I LOVE THE FACT OF THIS IS BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY AND WELCOMING BUSINESSES TO COME DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WHEN HE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.

SO AND THEN I'LL SPEAK ACCOUNTS FOR THIS.

OK, SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.

THEY ARE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

A MEMBERSHIP AND SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL.

AND PAY PAID AMOUNT ANNUALLY.

I HAVE A MOTION IS THERE I CAN SECOND BY MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR AS YOU WERE CARRYIN COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY QUICK ON THE BUTTON.

HOPEFULLY WE FIND A GOOD PARTNER CITY, GOOD SISTER CITY THAT WILL HELP BOTH OF US.

I DON'T THINK THAT RAISED EYEBROWS FOR ME.

IS THAT THE LAST LINE OF THE FISCAL IMPACT AS THE PROGRAM EVOLVES THAT MAY REQUEST CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT IN THE PROGRAM AS MAY BE APPROPRIATE FROM TIME TO TIME? THAT WHEN I'M HOPING THAT COUNCIL KEEPS A CLOSE EYE ON PEOPLE LIKE BILL BRATTON AND OTHERS DO TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP IT WITHIN EACH OTHER AND THAT SORT OF.

WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.

WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT COUNCILWOMAN BAILEY.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.

I'VE GOT A MOTION AND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FORCES SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR BY PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE NEXT STEP FOLLOWING YOUR SECRET MEETING THAT WE HAD ON MONDAY WHERE A DECISION WAS MADE ABOUT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE PURCHASE OFFICE OFFERS FOR THE THREE PARCELS KNOWN AS A PELICAN HARBOR MARINA.

SO THE AGENDA'S BEFORE EITHER WAS REVISION TO IT TO UPDATE THE INFORMATION BASED ON THE

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RESULTS OF MONDAY NIGHT'S MEETING.

AND SO DURING THAT MEETING, THE THE BOARD DID DECIDE TO RECOMMEND AWARD TO SPACE COAST MARINERS PURCHASE PRICE OF ONE POINT NINE MILLION.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT IS THE ITEM YOU ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON RANDOLPH CHESKY OF CHAYEFSKY'S.

WE'LL GET IT SOON, RANDALL SHEFF, LIKE SOMEONE THAT COOKS, MAY HAVE HAD IT RIGHT.

OLSZEWSKI BE RANDAL CHAYEFSKY.

I RESIDE IN 2007 LEVEL CIRCLE.

THIS, TOO, IS A CEREMONY FOR THE FOUR OF WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION FOR A DIFFERENT DAY.

I DO WANT THE CITIZENRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE BAILEY FRONT AND WHAT'S GOING TO ADD TO THE REDEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN'T RELY ON COMING TO A COUNCIL MEETING OR WATCHING A COUNCIL MEETING.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO WATCH THE BCR MEETINGS TO MAKE SURE YOU DO THAT.

AND I DID WATCH THE TWO THAT LED UP TO THIS DECISION.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S A CEREMONY FOR THAT WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.

I APPRECIATE THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT THAT THAT THOSE COMMISSIONERS DID.

RIGHT. WHAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AS A FORETHOUGHT, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

I CAN'T WAIT TO TAKE MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER DOWN TO THE RESTAURANT THAT IS YET TO BE NAMED WALK THE BOARDWALK. THAT'S YET TO BE BUILT AND LIVE MORE OF THAT PALM BAY LIFESTYLE.

WHAT I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT IT'S REALLY GOING TO OPEN FOLKS UP TO THE FACT THAT PALM BAY IS AN ACTUAL BODY OF WATER.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON PALM BAY.

AND THE APPLICANT IN THE LAST MEETING MENTIONED A STRONG DESIRE TO LOOK INTO GRANTS, THINGS OF THIS SORT, TO HAVE A MORNING POST IN PALM BAY SO THAT TRANSIENT BOATERS CAN AND CAN GET IN EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THE SEED THAT I WANT TO PLANT WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT IS THE FACT THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO NEED TO BE ON THE WATER.

THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE ON THE WATER TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF OUR CITY IN OUR BAY WHEN THE TRANSIENT BOATERS GET CRAZY, IN ADDITION TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC AND THINGS OF THE SORT THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE IN THE CREEKS, NO WAKE ZONE.

THERE'S MANATEES AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER WILDLIFE.

AND THE BOATING TRAFFIC IS ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE ROOF.

SO I'VE HEARD STORIES ON THE STREETS THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME INTEREST IN THE POLICE DOING SOME POLICING ON THE WATER, BUT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO I MEAN, THEY CAN STAND ON US ONE AND HOLLER AT SOMEONE THAT'S OUT THERE ON A SAILBOAT FOR TOO LONG OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO GET ON THE WATER.

SO IN THE LONG RUN, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A BOAT FOR THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PALM BAY FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

I HOPE THAT RIVER COUNTY HAS SOME RESOURCES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ONE OF THOSE BOATS, DID HAVE AN INCIDENT THAT WE COULD TAP ON THEM TO COME FROM THE LAGOON.

I DON'T KNOW THAT TO BE FACT, BUT I DO WANT TO PLANT SEEDS OF THOUGHT.

I KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DECIDE TONIGHT.

FAIR ENOUGH. I'M EXCITED FOR THE PROJECT.

BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT'S NOT JUST THIS PROJECT COMING TO OUR CITY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER THE AQUATIC FORCE, WHICH I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT.

I THINK THE BOAT WILL LOOK REALLY COOL.

SO ANYWAYS, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, THE CAR.

IT'S ALL THERE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BAYFRONT CRC AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH SPACE COAST BREENA'S LLC, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? I WILL SAY I LIKE THE NAME AQUATIC FOR SMELLS FUNNY.

OH, WILL THEY BE AQUAMAN? YEAH, YOU CAN BE YOU.

YOU CAN BE AQUAMAN IF YOU GOT THE HAIR FOR IT MAN.

BUT BUT NO. BUT MR. RANDALL DID RAISE A VALID POINT.

LIKE THAT AREA IS GOING TO EXPAND AND WE RATHER LIKE WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, FEASIBILITY ON OTHER ISSUES OR RATHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, WHAT IT'S LOOKING LIKE. BECAUSE WITH WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS WERE TALKING ABOUT ON MONDAY, THAT THAT AREA IS GOING TO BOOM JUST OFF THIS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BOOM IN THE RIGHT WAY, YOU KNOW.

SO, YEAH.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WELL, RIGHT NOW THEY'VE GOT MARINE PATROL AND THEY HAVE YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE DEPUTIES THAT HAVE BOATS ACCESS.

SO ABSOLUTELY.

WE KEEP OUR EYE IN THE FUTURE.

YES, SIR. THE MOORING IS STILL THAT MOORING THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT THAT WILL DEFINITELY BRING SO MUCH MORE BUSINESS.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK OUT IN THE FUTURE.

RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING ENCINA, YES, COUNCILMAN BAILEY, THANK YOU, MAYOR HOPLEY, AUDIENCE MEMBER, YOU CAN HEAR ME CLEARLY. YOU KNOW, I, I HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY IN FAVOR AS COUNCILMAN OF THE

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DIFFERENT AND LARGER PROJECT.

JUST WANTED TO NOTE AND THAT I THINK THAT WE MAKE A DECISION.

THAT WAS WHERE MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES COLLIDED, I SHOULD SAY, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE INVOLVED.

SIERRA PREFERRED THIS DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I ALSO THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN ONE OF MY PRIMARY INTERESTS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT WAS IN A DIFFICULT DECISION, I BELIEVE, LONG TERM AS FAR AS THE RATIO OF COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN THE CITY.

SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A NET POSITIVE ON THAT.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR WHO KIND OF CALLED UP THAT PIECE OF ANALYSIS WHEN WE FIRST HAD A MEETING AND WE LITERALLY TIED THREE TO THREE AND TRYING TO MAKE OUR DECISION. BUT I APPRECIATE HIM DOING THAT.

AND I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE CALL EACH OTHER OUT AND I THINK IT WILL MAKE EACH OTHER BETTER AS WE DO THAT.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH, THAT WAS WONDERFUL.

I LOVE WINTER WHEN ALL SHIPS SAIL IN THE SAME DIRECTION AND WE WORK AS A GREAT TEAM BECAUSE I WISH YOU'D BEEN HERE FOR THAT STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS BECAUSE I'VE DIRECTED YOUR GIFTS AS WELL.

COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE GOT A PROMOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE UP TO MS. SHERMAN ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE THREE QUICK ITEMS.

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]

ITEM NUMBER ONE IS I WANTED TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT WE ARE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS RELATED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'VE DISCUSSED. THIS WILL BE HELD ON JUNE THE 8TH AND THERE WILL BE SEPARATE SESSIONS TO TAKE IN ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM BUSINESSES, FROM DEVELOPERS AND ALSO FROM OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO ATTEND, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

ALSO, JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING THAT IF YOU WANT TO ENGAGE ON THE VISIONING PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW FOR THE COMPLAN OVERALL PROJECT, YOU CAN GO TO PALM BAY FOR AGGRESSIVE VISION AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE.

ANY TIME IT'S AN ACTIVE WEB SITE, YOU CAN ENGAGE ON.

SECOND ITEM, AS WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING, OBVIOUSLY, THE DEVELOPMENTS WITH COVID-19, AS WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, THE VACCINATION RATES INCREASE.

WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE CDC GUIDANCE AND SO HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND WANTED TO TELL THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT WHERE WE'RE AT ON TRANSITIONING BACK TO WE'LL CALL FULL NORMAL OPERATIONS IS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE TARGETING THE MONTH OF JULY TO RE RESTART FULL PARTICIPATION IN ALL OF OUR RECREATION EVENTS POTENTIALLY, AS WELL AS TO GO BACK TO NORMAL PARTICIPATION IN THE CHAMBERS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT EXTRA MONTH JUST TO MAKE SURE THINGS CONTINUE TO GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, CONTINUE TO STABILIZE, AND THAT WILL RETURN SUBSTANTIALLY TO NORMAL OPERATIONS. WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THAT'S BEEN ALL THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO WELCOME OUR NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR, LARRY WOODHOUSE, WHO IS IN IN THE BACK, HAS MADE IT THROUGH HIS FIRST ELEVEN THIRTY PM MEETINGS.

SO GOOD JOB, LARRY. CAN YOU PRONOUNCE HIS NAME AGAIN OR JAWORSKI? WE'LL JUST CALL YOU LARRY.

LARRY W..

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM.

NOTHING FURTHER. PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ABOUT. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE COULD MAKE CHANGES AND WE DON'T LOSE IT.

AND I SAID THAT THE RATING OF C RATING ON OUR TRAFFIC RATING, WHICH WAS VERY HIGH, AND THAT WAS MADE SO THAT THE.

DEVELOPERS WOULD COME IN AND SAY, OH, NO PROBLEM, THEY HAVE THIS HIGH, HIGH THRESHOLD AND THIS IS GOING TO RELATE BACK TO WHAT WE JUST HAD ON THIS TALK DISCUSSION OF GAYNER ROAD, BECAUSE IT HAS A CLASS RATING OF C, AND THEY SAID, OH, WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT HIGH THRESHOLD, BUT IT'S THAT HIGH THRESHOLD THAT'S CAUSING THE PROBLEM.

AND THAT SO I'M SAYING THERE'S A CASE OF CITY PLANNER SAYS, WELL, WE MEET THE THRESHOLD, BUT THE THRESHOLD WAS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A ROAD THAT GOES FROM LOMBARDIA TO GARBAGEMEN.

IT'S JUST A SINGLE STREET.

IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO ANYTHING.

BUT WE'RE COUNTING HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO ON TO IT FOR A CUT THROUGH.

THAT'S ONE ITEM. THE OTHER ITEM ON GAYNER ROAD, YOU ARE NOT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO I CAN'T FAULT YOU WITH IT.

BUT GAYNER ROAD, THE RESIDENTS HAD REQUESTED AND WE GOT PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO PUT A BERM UP THERE TO STOP THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES ON THAT ROAD THAT GOES TO NOWHERE.

WHEN THE DEVELOPER, SAME ONE BAYRIDGE CAME IN, THEY WANTED THE ONE OF THE BERM REMOVED.

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SO THE CITY VOTED AGAINST WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANTED AND THEY REMOVED THAT BERM WHICH OPENED UP THAT TRAFFIC TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HAD FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET TAKE TO GET BLOCKED OFF. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. BUT IN THREE MINUTES, I COULDN'T DISCUSS ANY OF THAT.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE I REALLY FELT LIKE I WAS AN AGGRIEVED PERSON, BUT I COULD NOT PRESENT ENOUGH FOR YOU CALLING IT THE LAY PERSON KNOWLEDGE TO PRESENT TO YOU FOR THE CASE. SO IF I GET PASSIONATE, MY LIFE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

ON THE PATENT BILL RANCH.

I'M I BUILT IT.

I BOUGHT THIRTY YEARS OF THIRTY, 33 YEARS AGO TO MAKE SURE THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM LIKE THIS. AND THAT'S THE WAY I BUILT MY RETIREMENT.

SO WHEN I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, IT WASN'T FOR BILL BARTON, IT WAS FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS AROUND ME THAT DON'T COME HERE AND ADDRESS YOU.

MY LIFE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUT THERE.

SO I WAS FIGHTING.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WAS FIGHTING ONE MORE TIME, JUST LIKE ON THE ROADS.

IT WASN'T FOR ME THAT I FOUGHT SO HARD OR IT WAS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY THAT DON'T COME HERE TO ADDRESS YOU.

SO I'LL SPEAK WITH YOU AFTERWARDS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS RUDE AND SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

BUT I WAS ONE TO UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS WERE THERE THAT I JUST COULD NOT PRESENT BECAUSE WE JUST PASSED A NOTE SAYING THAT SAID YOU'RE ONLY ENTITLED TO THREE MINUTES, BILL.

BUT LUCKILY WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE END TO TRY AND CLEAR THE RECORD.

AND I STILL DON'T LIKE YOUR JOB, YOU GUYS.

OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? BEFORE WE ADJOURN, YOU KNOW, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

AND BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.