3. Ordinance 2021-32, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 30, City Manager, by modifying provisions contained therein, first reading.

[4. Ordinance 2021-33, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 36, Parks and Recreation, by modifying provisions contained therein, first reading.]

OH YES WE HAVE YEAH.

MS. MS. SMITH. WOULD YOU LIKE IT? OR IT IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

THAT'S THIRTY THREE. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 36 PARKS AND RECREATION ARE REVISING THE DEPARTMENT TITLE AND MODIFYING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THERE IN PROVIDING FOR AN INCLUSION.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. DEPUTY OF JOHNSON, RANDALL CHESKY.

ALL OF OUR BILL BURTON, RANDALL, TWO SEVEN CIRCLE NE, I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THIS ONE AND THE FEW OTHERS THAT YOU CAN HEAR FROM ME FROM, I WISH WE COULD ADD THESE THINGS TOGETHER AS IT GOES ON RECREATION.

AT FIRST I WAS A LITTLE PERPLEXED AT THIS, BUT AS I READ FURTHER ON, I STARTED TO SEE THE MERITS. I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT ENABLE OUR TO BE PROCLAIMED RECREATION DIRECTOR TO HAVE THE OVERSIGHT NECESSARY FOR THE CAMPGROUND THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CITIZEN CITY RUN, WHICH IS GREAT.

IT'S A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE CITY.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING TOURISM IN.

WHAT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS JUST MY WISH AND DESIRE TO SEE OF THE CITY FOR US TO REALLY CREATE AN ECOSYSTEM THAT IS ONE, A REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE CITY IN THE FORM OF MULTIPLE SPORTS SPORTS LEAGUES AND THINGS OF THE SORT SO THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE REVENUE FROM THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE.

AND THAT WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN.

AND I WANT TO SEE AN EXPANSION OF THE DIVERSITY WITHIN THAT RECREATION REALM, IF YOU WILL, THE SPORTS THAT ARE REPRESENTED.

AS I MENTIONED, LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK ISLANDERS ARE VYING FOR THE STANLEY CUP RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE IN THE SECOND ROUND OF PLAYOFFS.

WE HAVE A DILAPIDATED HOCKEY RINK AT LIBERTY PARK THAT COULD BE CERTAINLY FIXED UP.

IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

WE COULD PUT A DECK PEX DECK OVER IT AS A DEFERRED TO AND WE CAN IMPLEMENT A DECK HOCKEY LEAGUE. BEFORE MY RETURN TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I WAS A PROUD YOUTH COACH OF DECOURCY AND I SAW WHAT THAT DID FOR THE YOUTH.

WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE A CRICKET FACILITY THAT OBVIOUSLY MCCASKEY USES.

WHAT IF WE INTRODUCE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY TEACH YOUTH THE SPORT OF CRICKET SO THAT EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T BORN ON THE ISLAND, BUT THEY HAVE THAT CULTURE, THEY HAVE THAT IN THEIR BLOOD, THEY CAN ACTUALLY PLAY THAT SPORT.

THE MORE DIVERSE REPRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE, THE SPORTS AVAILABLE TO OUR YOUTH, THE MORE INTERESTED OUR YOUTH WILL BE FROM GETTING AWAY FROM THEIR SCREEN OUTSIDE ONTO A FIELD, PLAYING, INTERACTING WITH THEIR PEERS.

AND IT WILL REALLY HELP WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PROCLAMATION'S TODAY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUSHING BACK AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE, WE NEED TO ENTERTAIN OUR YOUTH. WE NEED TO KEEP OUR YOUTH BUSY.

AND NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY FOOTBALL.

NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY BASEBALL.

NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO PLAY SOFTBALL.

NOT EVERY ADULT WANTS TO PLAY KICKBALL OR SOFTBALL.

WE WANT TO DO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO LET'S FOCUS ON THE YOUTH FIRST.

BUT ADD IN SOME ADULT LEAGUES AFTER WE PUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS AND I HOPE THAT RECREATION DIRECTOR REALLY FOCUSES IN ON SPREADING THAT OUT, MAKING SOME REALLY ROBUST PROGRAMS AND AT THE END OF THE DAY CAN BE A REVENUE STREAM FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU BET.

BILL BOUTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, I'M GLAD TO SEE RANDALL IS STEPPING UP AND HE'S GOING TO OVERRUN ME HERE REAL QUICK SO I'LL BE ABLE TO SLEEP IN EVENTUALLY.

OK. S.

THIRTY SIX POINT FIVE.

OF WHAT CONSTITUTES A COMMUNITY PARTNER.

WHAT ARE THEIR GUIDELINES FOR WHO GETS THIS SANCTIONED STATUS OR FREE?

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AND THEY BECOME CALLED FREE USERS IS POTENTIALLY.

WOULD BE A GROUNDS FOR POTENTIAL DISCRIMINATION CASE, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES ON WHO YOU SAID WERE THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WAS SAYING THERE.

SO I'M SAYING IDENTIFY WHO THAT IS AND WHAT THE CRITERIA IS TO BE THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE TO PAY. I THINK.

SECOND ITEM ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE I'M SURE RANDALL WILL MAKE UP FOR YOUR POLL MORE THAN I WOULD, SO I'LL DO IT ADDRESS OR THROUGH 11 AT THIS TIME OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. AND IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

IF YOU READ EACH ONE OF THEM, IT'S GOING TO SAY, HOW MUCH WILL THE DOLLAR AMOUNT BE ON THE FUTURE CITY BUDGETS, RIGHT? YES, BECAUSE IT'S FREE RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEING IMPLEMENTED.

BUT I FEEL BE IN THE DOUBTING TOM THAT HE IS I SEE POTENTIAL INCREASES IN STAFF AND FACILITIES THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE ON ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT ON THE CITY BUDGET. I'M JUST SAYING THAT OR THROUGH 11, ALL HAVE THAT SAME LITTLE CAVEAT IN THERE, THEY'RE SAYING AT THIS TIME IT'S FREE, BUT NEXT BUDGET, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT THAT OUT NOW AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS, OK? AND I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT.

ADADO TO INTO THE MEETING, WE'RE NOW GETTING DOWN TO CITY BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. AND I'M SHERMAN.

I'M SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, STEPH, I'VE RUN DOWN THIS STUFF IS NOTED, I'M SURE SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT INCREASING REVENUE GENERATION AND DIVERSITY OF ACTIVITY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING CERTAINLY WE WILL TALK ABOUT.

I WOULD ASK ACTUALLY, FRED, TO COME UP AND SHARE.

WELL, JUST FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, WHAT THE COMMUNITY PARTNER PIECE OF THAT IS, I BELIEVE, IS A HISTORICAL ITEM THAT'S BEEN WITH US FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE DONE ANY TIME RECENTLY THAT I'M AWARE OF.

SO THE WHOLE PROCESS OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS STARTED BACK IN THE LATE, LATE 70S, EARLY 80S, WHEN THE CITY WAS GOING THROUGH A HUGE GROWTH SPURT.

AND WE WERE DEPENDENT ON ON VOLUNTEERS TO TO HELP WITH AND AT THAT TIME WAS MOSTLY YOUTH SPORTS. AND SO THAT'S CARRIED FORWARD AND IT'S A LOT MORE FORMALIZED THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

SO MOST OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE NON-PROFITS, VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP US PROVIDE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

AND IF THE CITY WERE TO PROVIDE THOSE, IT WOULD BE A VERY EXTENSIVE COST, BECAUSE NOT ONLY WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT THE OPERATING DOLLARS FOR ALL THOSE, BUT OUR STAFFING LEVELS WOULD HAVE TO GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO MOST OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS.

WE HAVE TWO LITTLE LEAGUES.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOOTBALL ORGANIZATIONS, SOCCER, BASKETBALL.

BORKOWSKI IS IS A COMMUNITY PARTNER AND ALSO SENIORS SENIOR CENTERS.

WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AS WELL.

SO A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS AND THEIR ALL VOLUNTEER BASED AND THEY HELP US PROVIDE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AT BASICALLY NO COST TO THE CITY.

SO OUR PART OF THAT IS THAT WE PROVIDE THE FACILITIES AND AND SUPPORT MECHANISM FOR THOSE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE FACILITIES.

AND THERE ARE SOME COSTS THAT THEY BEAR, WHICH IN FOR SOME OF THE YOUTH SPORTS, THEY DO PAY A SLIDING FEE BASED ON USAGE.

AND THE MAIN REASON THAT'S IMPLEMENTED IS JUST TO ENSURE THE FACT THAT THAT THEY'RE VERY DILIGENT THAT THAT IN, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATION.

HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF A MAN IS ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ALSO AFFILIATED WITH THE DECOURCY.

YES, THEY HAVE.

I KNOW, YES, SIR. YES, SOME TYPE OF.

IN FACT, AFTER THE AFTER THE HURRICANES, THERE WAS A LOT OF DAMAGE AND THEY ACTUALLY CAME OUT AND VOLUNTEERED TO HELP US REESTABLISH IT.

THERE THERE IS A NEED FOR RESURFACING, BUT WE HAVE THAT ISSUE WITH SOME OTHER COURTS AS WELL AS FAR AS TENNIS AND BASKETBALL.

WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE THROUGH THE BUDGET.

AND I THINK THAT THEY MAKE SHIFTED SOME OF THE BARRIERS.

THAT'S WHAT RANDALL WAS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS IT IS A LITTLE BIT DILAPIDATED.

THEY THEY REPAIRED IT AFTER THE HURRICANE.

BUT CERTAINLY IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S NOW ON A BUDGET ITEM.

I BECAUSE I'VE PLAYED THERE WITH THEM BEFORE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK IT'S TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHTS.

IS THAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO.

I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TWO GROUPS SPENT A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN OUT THERE. BUT ANYHOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE NICE THINGS TO GET IT TOGETHER. THEY'RE STILL AT LEAST OPERATING FOR NOW.

AND WE'RE I KNOW THEY HAVE USED THE SHED OUT THERE, BUT BUT DEFINITELY WOULD BE SOMETHING. I AGREE THAT IF WE CAN PUT A LITTLE BIT A COUPLE DOLLARS IN THERE WOULDN'T COST THAT MUCH. THANK YOU.

AND SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?

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KNOW EMOTION, EMOTION TO MOVE, WARREN IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH THIRTY THREE, FIRST READING SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, MA'AM, I IS PROBABLY I'M GUESSING THIS IS PROBABLY KIND OF A MUNDANE THING.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE MS. SHERMAN RECOMMENDATION.

MOST OF THESE ARE PROBABLY KIND OF LIKE ROUTINE FILLING FOR COUNCIL.

BUT ON THIS RIGHT HERE, A PARTICULAR ITEM, IF IT HAD BEEN PULLED, I WAS GOING TO PULL IT MYSELF BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL THAT.

DOES IT MAKE TO ME IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO SEPARATE PARKS FROM RECREATION.

I WOULD BE OK IF WE WERE COMBINED FACILITIES BACK INTO TWO PARKS AND REC, AS WE ONCE HAD PRE 15 FORTNUM'S SHERMAN PROBABLY ALREADY KNOWS THE HISTORY, I WOULD BE OK WITH THAT OR THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT I THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING SOME SYNERGY BY ADDING FACILITIES, FOLKS WITH THE PARKS FOLKS.

BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO SYNERGY BETWEEN THE PARKS FOLKS AND THE REC FOLKS, AT LEAST THERE SHOULD BE. AND SO THEREFORE I WOULD BE OK TO LEAVE AND EITHER COMBINE THEM ALL TOGETHER, MAKE IT ONE DEPARTMENT, OR EITHER LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

THE SECOND CONSIDERATION THAT I HAD IS THAT I REALLY FEEL WHILE RECREATION ISM IS IMPORTANT TO QUALITY OF LIFE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CHARTER RESPONSIBILITIES OF WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS A MUNICIPALITY WITHIN THE STATE, IT'S LOW ON THE ON THE TOTEM POLE.

AND WHY WOULD WE PAY ONE CHIEF TO BE IN CHARGE OF SUCH A SMALL TRIBE OF INDIANS FOR WHAT IS I DON'T WANT I'M NOT TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE IMPORTANCE OF RECREATION.

OF COURSE NOT. BUT JUST TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING AS, SAY, LIKE PROCUREMENT, WHICH IS A VERY SMALL TEAM.

BUT THEY EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE IT.

YOU CANNOT IT'S IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DESSERT AND DINNER.

I STILL WANT DESSERT AND I LIKE DESSERT, BUT WE GOT TO FOCUS ON DINNER.

I THINK IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE TO EITHER COMBINE THEM ALL TOGETHER OR LEAVE IT AS IS.

SO THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT IT AS IT IS.

AND ALSO. I AM SUPPORTING IT, AS IS, OF COURSE, I MADE THE MOTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO KNOW BETTER THAN IT ANY ONE OF US IN REGARDS TO SYNERGY OR HOW THE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD GO.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE PRIVATE MEETINGS, WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS LIKE WE DID WITH OUR BRIEFINGS. WE ALL HAVE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF SHE FEELS GOING FORWARD, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THAT.

IF SHE SEES THAT THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT MOVE, WHICH I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN HER, AND WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT AS SUCH.

BUT APPARENTLY SHE SEES SOMETHING.

AND I'VE TALKED TO HER AND I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT GOING FORWARD IS IS RIGHT.

OTHER THAN THAT, I MR. POPPY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WE GET US GETTING BACK INTO, YOU KNOW, DECOURCY AND INTRODUCING SOME MORE THE SPORTS BECAUSE.

OF COURSE, I'M A FOOTBALL PLAYER, BUT NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO PLAY FOOTBALL.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT NOT LOOK LIKE IT ANY MORE, BUT SO BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY SO EVERYBODY FEELS INCLUDED.

SO THAT'S ALL. MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS TOWARDS HOW THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY? CERTAINLY. SO MY RECOMMENDATION, WHICH COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO ACCEPT OR DECLINE IS IS TRULY TO DO A REORGANIZATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF THOSE WHO ARE IN THE ROOM.

THE REORGANIZATION CONCEPT IS THAT FACILITIES AND PARKS AS A INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE TEAM COME TOGETHER SO EARLY.

WE HAVE A PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND A FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.

PARKS RECREATION HAS A DUAL SORT OF FOCUS RIGHT NOW OF BOTH DEALING WITH RECREATIONAL EVENTS, ACTIVITIES, GROUPS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ALL OF OUR PARKS INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THIS MOVE WILL TAKE THE PARKS, INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM, MAINTENANCE WORKERS, ET CETERA, AND MOVE THEM AS PART OF THE FACILITIES TEAM THAT IS MAINTAINING ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS IN THE CITY. SO THE SYNERGY THERE IS THAT ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURES OF OUR WHETHER IT'S OUR PARKS OR THESE BUILDINGS, ARE ALL ON ONE TEAM WORKING TOGETHER, STILL ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTING ALL THE RECREATION EVENTS AND THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE CITY AS THEY DO AS THEY DO NOW.

AND THEN THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS SOLELY TASKED WITH NOT ONLY CARRYING ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN TERMS OF OUR RECREATIONAL AMENITIES, BUT EXPANDING THEM, FOCUSING ON THOSE AS A PRIORITY TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY TO THE POINT WE HEARD EARLIER TO DIVERSIFY AND ADD NEW THINGS TO OUR OFFERING FOR RESIDENTS.

SO. IRWIN, AND IN DISCUSSING THAT, THE FACILITY PART OF THAT, THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS OUR FACILITIES, OUR PLAYGROUNDS, THE DOWNFALL OF OUR PLAYGROUND EXPERIENCE, YOU FEEL THAT? I THINK THERE'LL BE A COHESIVE TEAMWORK APPROACH TOWARDS IDENTIFYING WHEN THOSE THINGS GO

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BAD OR PUTTING THEM ON A SCHEDULE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ON THOSE.

CERTAINLY PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TEAM OF FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING TOGETHER IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT, SAME LEADERSHIP, THAT THAT IS ONE PART OF IT.

BUT THE BIGGER PART, LONGER TERM, IS REALLY OUR FOCUS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, INVESTMENT LONG TERM, WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE FROM ME AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON REALLY TRYING TO PRIORITIZE FUNDING IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE EXPERIENCE.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH PLAYGROUNDS.

BUT ALSO WE AS A AS A CITY IN RECENT BUDGET YEARS, WE HAVE NOT HAD A FULL COMPREHENSIVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AS PART OF OUR BUDGET, CERTAINLY IN THAT CAPITAL, BUT NOT A FULL EVERY DEPARTMENT OR EVERYTHING IN THERE THAT IS NEEDED, WHETHER WE CAN FUND IT NOW OR IT'S A FIVE YEAR OR 10 YEAR PLAN.

THAT'S SOMETHING THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON.

VERY, VERY GREAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR.

THE QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN, YEAH, JUST A QUICK JUST TO GET TO SOME SOME OF THE WEEDS HERE, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE BALL FIELDS? THAT WOULD BE THE PARKS AND FACILITIES TEAM.

IT WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF DEALING WITH THE WITH THE LEAKS.

THAT WOULD BE THE RECREATION TEAM.

WHY SHOULDN'T THEY BE TOGETHER UNDER THE SAME LEADERSHIP? THERE ARE TWO DIVISIONS AND ANYTHING TO THE POINT WHAT MAYOR ASKED, WHICH I AGREE WITH, WHERE ARE LEADING IT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE QUESTIONS OF INSPECTIONS OF THE PLAYGROUNDS I WENT DEEP INTO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I MEAN, THERE'S NO PREVIOUS TO LAST YEAR. AND CERTAINLY I DIDN'T SEE THE RESULTS THAT WERE FRIENDLY TO US BECAUSE NOW.

BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD FROM THAT POINT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT'S A DIVISION IS A MATTER WHO THE WHO THE DIRECTOR IS OF THAT DIVISION. I MEAN, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE FILMS ARE GOING TO BE SAME PEOPLE DOING THE FILMS EITHER WAY IN THIS REGARD, BUT THEIR BOSSES ARE GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER BOSS. IT'S. BECOMES TOO MANY CHIEFS IN THAT SITUATION, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WHY WOULD THE PARKS DIRECTOR HAVE TO GO TO THE PARKS DIRECTOR? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION.

I THINK OPERATIONALLY, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE TWO DIRECTORS WORKING TOGETHER ON THE TEAMS WORKING TOGETHER, BUT CERTAINLY HAPPY TO TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCILMAN.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT REGARDING THAT, I LIKE THE TEAMWORK APPROACH, THOUGH, BUT THAT'S A GOOD ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE PERSONALITY CONFLICTS OR OR WHATEVER.

AND THOSE ARE ISSUES, THOSE EMPLOYEE ISSUES.

RIGHT. AND WE ALL FACE THOSE DAY TO DAY, DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES, DIFFERENT CHALLENGES WITHIN THAT. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS POINT, BUT I SEE WHERE YOU'RE WHERE YOU'RE GOING. I ALSO SEE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON'S SUPPORT OF THIS IN THAT WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK.

WE COULD REEVALUATED.

LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

THERE'S A CHALLENGE GOING ON TODAY.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED AND BEHIND THE SCENES WHERE PERSONALITY CONFLICTS OR THE PLAYGROUND ISSUE THAT YOU MENTIONED, I JUST WANT TO GET IT ON IN. LET'S MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE, SO I'LL SUPPORT THIS MOTION, AND IF I MAY JUST ADD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE ITEM AS THE MAYOR JUST BROUGHT UP.

THERE'S MORE THAN THAT. THERE'S THERE'S REASONS WHY THIS IS BEING CHANGED.

AND WE'VE HAD OTHER CHANGES OF LEADERSHIP AND WE'VE HAD THERE'S OTHER THINGS ARE GOING ON AND THOSE WILL BECOME RECORD WHENEVER APPROPRIATE TIME.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IF I TAKE OUT ALL IT'S NOT A PERSONNEL ISSUE.

IF I TAKE OUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THESE POSITIONS, I ASK MYSELF, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? AND I AND I TALKED TO MS. SHERMAN AND I PRESENT IT THAT WAY.

WHENEVER I TAKE EVERYBODY OUT, IT'S NOT ABOUT ANY PERSONALITY OR WHO'S THE DIRECTOR TODAY, WHO'S A DIVISION MANAGER, WHO'S WORKING IN PARKS OR WHATEVER DIVISION IT'S ABOUT.

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE ON PAPER? A HIGH LEVEL AND IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER OR LEAVE IT SPARKS IRAQ.

THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I CAN'T FIND ONE OTHER CASE EXAMPLE.

MAYBE YOU CAN. AND I DIDN'T ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, BUT IT WAS I HAD SOMEONE ELSE LOOK IT UP. THEY HAD LOOKED IT UP THAT THAT INFORMED ME THAT THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY OTHER PLACE THAT DOES THIS. THIS IS WHY THERE'S THERE'S NO THERE'S NO GOOD CASE FOR IT.

I THINK THAT THERE'S REALLY, TRULY OTHER REASONS.

I AGREE THAT I KNOW MS. SHERMAN WORKING OUT HER MANAGEMENT LEVEL.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR LONG TERM.

I THINK THAT THE MANAGEMENT SHOULD SHOULD LOOK AT HANDLING THE MANAGEMENT ISSUES IN A DIFFERENT WAY OTHER THAN CHANGING THE DEPARTMENT.

AND I TRULY RESPECT THAT, THAT COLEN LEADERSHIP, I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION AT THIS TIME. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR. AND HE OPPOSE THIS IS FOR ONE.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

[5. Ordinance 2021-34, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 38, Procurement Department, by modifying provisions contained therein, first reading.]

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OR IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S 30 FOR AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND MANY OF THE CODE WITNESSES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 38, CURETTE DEPARTMENT MODIFYING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THERE IN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF WITNESSES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THE REMAINING JOHNSON.

WELL, I PULLED IT, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS, SIMILAR THING HERE.

LOOK, IT'S I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE DEFERRING ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

I'M HOPING THAT LATER WE DEFER TO STAFFS AND SHERMAN ADVICE ON OTHER ITEMS. BUT LOOKING FORWARD ON THE AGENDA.

BUT IN THIS SITUATION RIGHT HERE, THE AUDIENCES SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY ALL RIGHT. LOOK AT THE DIVISIONS AND WHAT DIVISIONS GO INTO WHAT DEPARTMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. WE'RE TAKING FLEET, WHICH IS LOCATED HOUSED OUT AT THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND PUT IT UNDERNEATH PROCUREMENT, WHO IS IN A LITTLE OFFICE ON THE SECOND FLOOR HERE ON THIS CAMPUS? WE'RE TAKING SOMEBODY WHO HAS PROCUREMENT, EXPERTIZE WHO I VALUE A LOT, THAT PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL WHO'S IN THAT SEAT NOW AND GIVE THEM RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME LOGISTICAL, BUT ALSO IT'S A DIFFERENT VOCATION OF BLUE COLLAR WORKERS.

WHEREAS WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT'S THE SAME SAME THING AS THE LAST TIME.

IT MAKES MORE SENSE THAT THEY MAY BE A DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS, IN MY MIND, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS LIKE MECHANICS AND OTHER DIVISIONS AND PUBLIC WORKS THAT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER THERE.

I UNDERSTAND MS., SHERMAN, PALM BAY GOING TO TELL US THAT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE WORKING TOGETHER. OF COURSE, WE'RE ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER ACROSS DEPARTMENTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FURTHER YOU GO UP THE LINE TO YOUR BOSSES, RIGHT.

THAT'S WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO AND THAT THOSE TWO CAN'T GET ALONG TO THEIR BOSSES.

AND SO WE'RE KIND OF IT'S TO ME, IT'S EXASPERATING AN ISSUE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THINGS DOWN THERE.

AND THERE'S THERE'S NO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS NOW ACROSS THE CITY.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS, OBVIOUSLY, AND THIS IS WHY THIS AUDIENCE IS BEING BROUGHT FORTH. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS I CANNOT SUPPORT BEING A DIVISION OF PROCUREMENT FLEET SHIPS THAT REMAIN A DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS.

HAPPY THAT. YEAH, THIS ONE I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT TO.

YEAH, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT PROCUREMENT, WHAT IT ENTAILS COMPARED TO FLEET, LIKE, I DON'T SEE THE CORRELATION.

YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE THE CORRELATION WITH THE LARCENOUS RECREATION'S AND FACILITIES BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.

BUT THIS ONE, I DIDN'T SEE THE.

CORRELATION, SO IF YOU CAN HELP ME MS. SUZANNE OTHERWISE, YEAH, YEAH, SO I THINK I DO.

I DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN BAILEY AND I DO REALIZE THAT ON PAPER IT SEEMS TO BE AN ODD PAIRING.

AGREED. YOU MENTIONED THE BEGINNING.

YOU TALKED ABOUT OUR CURRENT LEADER IN PROCUREMENT, JULIA MOSCONE.

SO SHE BRINGS CERTAIN THINGS TO THAT PARTICULAR TEAM THAT I AM LOOKING TO HAVE REPLICATED WITHIN THE FLEET DIVISION.

THAT IS PART OF WHY THIS CHANGE IS MOVING FORWARD.

THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT GO ON IN FLEET THAT HAVE A LOT OF RELATION TO SYNERGY WITH WHAT PROCUREMENT DOES ALREADY.

SOME OF THOSE THINGS INVOLVE ALL THE PROCUREMENT THAT WE DO, WHETHER IT'S FOR VEHICLES, FOR PARTS, FUEL.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROCUREMENT RELATED ASPECTS TO WHAT THEY DO.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE INTENSIVE SERVICE DEPARTMENT IN NEED OF PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND NEED OF EARLY PERFORMANCE METRICS.

A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY IS NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE DIVISION SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY OPERATE AT A LEVEL THAT IMPROVES THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND I CLEARLY SEE THE SYNERGY BETWEEN WHAT THEY NEED AND WHAT JULIA MOSCONI PROVIDES.

SO GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BRING THIS TO AN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS THE WAY WE MAKE THE CHANGE, I AM DOING THIS BECAUSE I HAVE A LEADER WHO I KNOW CAN RESOLVE A LOT OF THE NEEDS OUT IN THAT DIVISION. THAT IS WHY THESE ARE BEING PAIRED TOGETHER BECAUSE OF HER LEADERSHIP AND HER ABILITIES TO RESOLVE A LOT OF THE NEEDS OUT THERE.

SO SO MEDINA SHERMAN, WOULD IT WOULD IT BE BEST? IF WE WERE TO WORK ON GETTING SOMEONE WITH THAT SHERMAN EXPERT.

THE WORK HAND IN HAND AND OUT OF THAT AND A PUBLIC WORKS.

HAND IN HAND WITH PROCUREMENT AS OPPOSED TO SHIFTING THAT ALL TOGETHER.

WOULDN'T IT BE BEST IF IF YOU HAD LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED A PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR NOW. OTHER DUTIES RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED, WOULDN'T IT BE BEST TO GET SOMEONE WITH THAT TYPE OF KNOWLEDGE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH?

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PUBLIC WORKS AND PROCUREMENT AS OPPOSED TO SHIFTING.

THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT. WELL, CERTAINLY THAT IS ANOTHER WAY WE COULD SLICES.

I WILL TELL YOU, THE LEAD HAS ALWAYS, ALTHOUGH THERE CLEARLY ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF PUBLIC WORKS, AS LONG AS I REMEMBER GOING BACK, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN REALLY A SEPARATE ENTITY, JUST THE WAY THEY OPERATE, THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE SAME SERVICE LEVEL ISSUES.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BASH FLEET BY THE SAME SERVICE LEVEL ISSUES THAT PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES OUTSIDE OF THAT DIVISION HAVE WITH THE FLEET DIVISION ARE THE SAME SERVICE LEVEL ISSUES THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH OVER THE YEARS.

WE'VE JUST RECENTLY HIRED A FLEET SERVICES DIVISION MANAGER POSITION.

WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT SOMEBODY IN, FORTUNATELY, WHO HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN RUNNING DEALERSHIPS. SO PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE AND PARTICULARLY THE AUTO REPAIR PORTION OF DEALERSHIPS. HE IS ALSO A CONSULTANT FOR DEALERSHIPS IN THE PAST.

AND SO HIS HIS LEADERSHIP WILL BE KEY.

JULIET'S LEADERSHIP WILL EQUALLY BE KEY.

AND I MY REQUEST IS TO PAIR THEM TOGETHER.

SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO.

BUT THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT I SEE IN TERMS OF THE CAPACITY OF MY VARIOUS DIVISIONS, MY LEADERS, AND HOW I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE GREATER SUCCESS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM WORK TOGETHER TO MADAM SHERMAN, I'M JUST NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING BOTH COMPANIES TOGETHER.

I JUST I'M NOT SEEING IT WITH PARTS, I UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND, I DO UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND OF IT, BUT I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH WITH THAT LOGIC.

COUNCILWOMAN AWESOME.

YEAH. I.

WHOLLY AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHAT SHE'S DOING, SHE SHOULD KNOW BEST HOW HER STAFF WORKS TOGETHER AND HOW THE ENTIRE.

AGENCIES WITHIN THE CITY GOVERNMENT WORKED, AND SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR LEADING AND DIRECTING THE CITY, AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WORKING OUT.

I'M QUITE SURE SHE HAD COME BACK IN AND MAKE CORRECTIONS WITH THE COUNCIL.

SO SHERMAN, I DON'T SEE HOW LEE WORKS WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

I JUST DON'T SEE THAT CORRELATION, AND I'VE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT FOR A WHILE, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT WORKED. BUT PROCUREMENT.

ALMOST WORK WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT.

OH, I'M FOR THE CHANGES.

THANK YOU. AND FELIX.

ER, I MEAN, I, I WOULD SUPPORT THE CHANGE, JUST THE FACT, AS COUNCILMAN FOSTER MENTIONED, I THINK WE MANDATE MS. SHERMAN WITH WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.

WE EXPRESS CONFIDENCE IN OUR ABILITY TO RUN THIS WHOLE OPERATION.

I'M TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH WITH THE CHANGE THAT SHE PROPOSED TO ME, JUST A MATTER OF LIVING. WE CAN MOVE THAT DIVISION, PUT IT SOMEWHERE BY ITSELF AS LONG AS THE LEADERSHIP IS IS IS INTACT.

WE GOT THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP LEADING THAT DEPARTMENT.

WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO ME? I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF WHAT SHE'S PROPOSING.

YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX DID ALL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR COUNCILMAN MADE JOHNSON WHERE YOU WEIGH IN. I'M STILL ON THE FENCE, MAN, BECAUSE BECAUSE I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT.

I'M JUST I'M TRYING TO GET THERE.

I'M READING THROUGH AGAIN AND AGAIN.

I'M YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET IN AND I WANT TO HAVE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ABILITIES AND IN YOUR JUDGMENT. I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT AND I COULD MARRY DID FAIL TO ANSWER, I THINK THE QUESTION ABOUT OTHER OTHER PLACES IT MAY HAVE DONE THINGS LIKE THIS.

WELL, THAT WAS REALLY WHAT'S WRONG WITH SEPARATING RICK RIGHT.

FROM PARKS. YEAH.

WASN'T THERE NO ISSUE WITH PARKS? THE FACILITIES THAT I CAN GET? I CAN I CAN GET THERE WITH PARKS, FACILITIES.

I COULDN'T GET THERE IN SEPARATING THAT.

A DIFFERENT ONE. I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO SHARE THAT.

THE ONLY THING I COULD SAY THAT'S SIMILAR AND I'VE LEARNED THAT BREVARD COUNTY ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THEY HAVE PROCUREMENT FLEET AND WHAT THEY CALL CENTRAL SERVICES. THEY'VE HOUSED TOGETHER ALL OF THE THINGS THAT TOUCH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL SERVICE TYPE FUNCTION.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER FOLKS HAVE DONE IT COMPARED TO WHAT I'M PROPOSING TONIGHT.

SO. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU KNOW HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS, IS THIS.

[01:20:03]

WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE GOT A FEW PEOPLE USED TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY IN THE ROOM.

MAYBE THEY KNOW IF IT'S A IS IT A LONG TIME? IS IT. I THINK SINCE BEFORE 2000, I KNOW THAT AND.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S HOUSED TOGETHER AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST THOSE TWO THINGS.

THEREFORE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE PERSON OPERATING IS NECESSARILY THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER, BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S MORE LIKE NO PROCUREMENTS.

A SUBDIVISION OF THAT OF THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AT LEAST.

AND I THINK THEY HAVE IT OR SOMETHING ELSE I THINK IS UNDERNEATH THAT.

LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.

HOW WILL THIS AFFECT HIRING A HAVE WE HAVE WE WHERE ARE WE AT IN HIRING A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR? I HAVE A LIST OF ABOUT 19 APPLICATIONS I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH.

AND SO THE GOAL IS TO GET THAT LIST WHITTLED DOWN TO THOSE WHO WILL BE INTERVIEWED AND TO START THOSE HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK BASED ON AVAILABILITY.

WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE PREMATURE.

WHO KNOWS WHO THE PERSON IS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO.

I MEAN, AND I STILL SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, OF COACHING ACROSS DEPARTMENTS HERE, TOO. BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT ARE WE GOING TO LOWER THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR'S SALARY BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING ON LESS AND AN INCREASE THE DIRECTOR SALARY? ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC WORKS? ESSENTIALLY, THEY'RE GOING TO STILL GET WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET AND WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE PROCUREMENT.

ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE THIS CHANGE IN STRIDE AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT EVEN SO, THE PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR WOULD RECEIVE AN INCREASE BECAUSE TAKING ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY. PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, SINCE I'M AN ACTIVE RECRUITMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE. A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON YOU KNOW, I HAVE OBVIOUSLY A CERTAIN BUDGET NUMBER FROM OUR OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

I HAVE A RANGE FOR THE POSITION, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHO WE END UP MAKING AN OFFER TO, WHAT THEIR REQUEST IS GOING TO BE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT.

SO A LOT OF THAT WILL BE KIND OF IN FLUX AS WE GO FORWARD.

YOU KNOW, BE HONEST WITH YOU.

MAYBE I COULD MAYBE I COULD ACQUIESCE IF IT WAS ALL GOING TO BE FLAT AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE A FISCAL IMPACT. BUT TO ME, IT'S AT A STANDSTILL.

IT'S I THINK IT'S PREMATURE.

WE'RE GOING TO HARD WE'RE GOING HIRE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO. AND WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN HOUSE THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER AND WHERE WE CAN BRING IN OTHER FOLKS.

SO IT'S NOT THE SAME. I CAN'T USE THE SKILLS AND EFFICIENCY THAT THE COUNTY HAS SEEN.

AND THE COUNTY IS ALSO A MUCH BIGGER ORGANIZATION OVERALL.

SO THERE'S OTHER I THINK THERE'S OTHER REASONS WHY THEY NEED TO BE THE WAY THEY ARE.

IT'S MAYBE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE WE CAN.

BUT I WOULD I WOULDN'T SUPPORT AGAIN, IT'S JUST I WOULDN'T SUPPORT GIVING THIS ONE AN INCREASE BECAUSE IT MUST BE THE BOTTOM LINE OF IS GOING TO GET THE PUBLIC GETS AT THIS POINT NOW.

AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE HARD IF YOU START IN SOMEWHERE TO TAKE IT AWAY.

I'D SAY WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD PERSON THERE.

AND I LIKE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID.

IT'S HAVING YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE IF WE NEED FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE PROCUREMENT AND THEY NEED COACHING, WE NEED WE NEED TO COACH THEM UP AND HAVING A WE SHOULD HAVE A GOOD PERSON FOR PROCUREMENT.

I KNOW WE THEN WE HAVE SOME VACANCIES OVER THERE WHERE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S STILL OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW IN THAT WAY AND THAT IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT GETTING THE RIGHT PERSON WHO WHO DOES HAVE THAT APTITUDE, BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE IF WE HAVE A ROCK STAR, YOU THINK WE HAVE A ROCK STAR PROCUREMENT OFFICER RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS DISAGREEING WITH THAT.

SHE COULD BE GONE NEXT YEAR.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO REORGANIZE.

THE DIVISION IS NO SMALL, I MEAN STATIONARY AND JUST SIMPLE THINGS ARE GOING TO TAKE TIME AND EFFORT. AND SO, THEREFORE, WHILE IT COULD CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE FOREVER.

WE COULD KEEP HER FOREVER AND KEEP HER LOCKED IN UNTIL SHE RETIRES OR, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? OR MAYBE SHE WANTS TO MAYBE SHE WANTS TO BE IN YOUR POSITION SOMEDAY.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT, AGAIN, WHENEVER I LOOK AT THIS ON PAPER AND WHEN WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE OUTSIDE OF PERSONNEL, OUTSIDE OF PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE FISCAL IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE A THING FOR THE JOHNSON. YEAH. I ACTUALLY THINK IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE IF THIS WERE TABLE.

AND WE ACTUALLY GIVE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR A CHANCE.

BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THIS AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO'S COMING IN OR WHAT THEY CAN BRING IN, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING SOME OF WHAT MS. JULIET BRINGS OR ALL OF WHAT MR. JULIET BRINGS, OR WE MAY REQUIRE THAT.

YEAH, WE MAY REQUIRE.

SO THAT'S WHERE MY MIND IS BECAUSE, YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

I'LL EITHER WAY, MADAM SHERMAN, I THINK THIS IS GREAT DISCUSSION.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER CROSS THE TRAIN, WE KNOW THAT PROCUREMENT COULD BENEFIT. WE CAN BENEFIT FROM THAT PROCUREMENT EXPERIENCE, I SHOULD SAY.

AND BOTH YOU MADE JOHNSON, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY WEIGHED IN REALLY WELL, IN PARTICULAR WHEN WHEN WE COULD ACTUALLY BE REQUESTING A LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A JUNIOR JULIET MOSCONI WITH THAT TYPE OF EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION PROCESS.

BUT I'M I'M FULLY ON BOARD WITH THAT IDEA OF TABLING THIS MAN TO GIVE THAT PUBLIC WORKS

[01:25:08]

DIRECTOR AN OPPORTUNITY.

DO WE NEED THAT INMOTION? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OK, UM, TRUSTEE.

SUPPORT THAT MOTION IF A MOTION TO TABLE OR IN ITS 2021 DESK 34 TO GIVE A CITY MANAGER AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE AND EVALUATE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT IF THE OTHER TWO ARE GOING TO SECOND.

I STILL KIND OF THINK THAT, NO, DON'T DO IT, BUT IF THE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN. TO CLARIFY, I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE TABLING, IT HAS TO BE FOR LIKE A TIME CERTAIN. SO I WAS THINKING MAYBE IT'S JUST A WITHDRAWAL ITEM, OK? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH.

OK, SO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND DRAMA, WITHDRAW DRAMA AND YOUR WITHDRAW, SO.

THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE THERE, BUT YOU JUST YOU JUST HAVE TO WITHDRAW OR WITHDRAW IT. HOWEVER, I WITHDRAW OFFICIALLY.

OK, SO YOU OFFICIALLY WITHDRAW NUMBER FIVE.

OK, SO MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX ON CONSENT.

[6. Ordinance 2021-35, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 39, Community and Economic Development, by modifying provisions contained therein, first reading.]

RIGHT OF CHESKY FAULT IT.

WELL, SHOULDN'T MS..

MS. MAY HAVE READ THE CAPTION.

I'M SORRY, BUT ITEM ON ITEM SIX, CONSENT ONE DAY, I DIDN'T MARK THAT ONE ORIGINALLY AS PULLED. OH, HE DID.

OH.

NO, NO, IT WAS FULL.

OR IT IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH 35, AN ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 39 HUMIDITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MODIFYING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THERE IN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PART LISTS OF WITNESSES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOOD IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. IF YOU MADE JOHNSON.

70. THANK YOU, MR. DEPUTY MAYOR. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, TWO TWO SEVEN, NEVILLE CIRCLE NE.

I ONLY HAD A QUICK COMMENT ON THIS, SO I'M GOING TO USE A LITTLE BIT OF MY MY TIME HERE.

THE CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS REALLY FASCINATING.

AND I THINK OUR PAST FEW MINUTES OF DIALOG REALLY EXPAND UPON THAT, BECAUSE WHEN THE COUNCIL VOTES IN CONFIDENCE TO APPOINT A CITY MANAGER, THEY BASICALLY SAY, HEY, RUN THE BUSINESS THAT IS OUR CITY.

YET WHEN THEY WANT TO, AFTER SO MANY DAYS IN THE BUSINESS, EVALUATE AND SEE THINGS AND MAYBE REDESIGN THE BUSINESS, THEY HAVE TO COME TO YOU GUYS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE DIALOG LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PILLAR OF DEMOCRACY.

SO GOOD CONVERSATION SO FAR THIS EVENING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE JUDGE THE PERFORMANCE, WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO JUDGE THE ABILITY TO EXERCISE THAT WE GAVE.

BUT WITH THAT ON NUMBER SIX, I ALLUDED TO IN NUMBER THREE MY CURIOSITY OF THE FATE OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER.

AND IT WAS REALLY A PREAMBLE TO MY ANCHOR HERE ON NUMBER SIX.

SO CURRENTLY UNDER COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY WAY OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

SO WITH THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER MOVING OUT AS THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD LIAISON IS NO LONGER PART OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT DEPARTMENT IS IT PART OF? AND I'LL YOU KNOW, AFTER I FINISH MY COMMENTS, I'LL CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN THAT ANSWER.

BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE MY OPINION THAT I DO THINK IT WAS PROPERLY PLACED WITHIN THIS DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO SUSTAINABILITY, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING TO PLANT TREES AND SAVE WATER.

WE ARE LOOKING TO GROW OUR CITY AND DEVELOP THE ECONOMY WITHIN OUR CITY IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY. NOW WE DO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, RAINWATER MOVEMENT AND THINGS OF THAT SORT, THE EARTHY SIDE OF SUSTAINABILITY.

BUT WE REALLY FOCUS IN ON SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.

SO I THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THIS DEPARTMENT BE OUR STAFF LIAISON. SO I DON'T WANT TO GO ON TOO MUCH AND I CAN TAKE IT OFFLINE WITH WITH THE APPROPRIATE PARTY. BUT I DO WANT TO KNOW WHO THE STAFF LIAISON WILL BE AS A RESULT OF THIS ORDINANCE PASSING THROUGH FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD SPECIFICALLY.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

FOR PURPOSES OF THE ORDINANCE CHANGE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, A SPECIAL PROJECT MANAGER WILL CONTINUE IN THAT CAPACITY AS THE LIAISON TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.

HOWEVER, THERE WILL BE SOME BUDGETARY REQUESTS THAT WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT NEEDS IN THE CITY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF DEPTH IN A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS RELATED TO THINGS LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE WILL BE SOME POSITION REQUESTS THAT MAY COME BEFORE COUNCIL AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE'RE JUST AT THE BEGINNING STAGES OF THAT.

SO FOR NOW, THOUGH, NO CHANGE TO BOARD RESPONSIBILITY.

YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE, A MOTION TO IMPROVE ON.

IT'S TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH 35 FIRST READING.

AND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN BAILEY. YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO SAY, AS MR BATTEN SAID EARLIER, IT'S FOR NOW.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE AND JUST REAL QUICK, BECAUSE MR., OF COURSE, RANDALL CAME UP AND OLSZEWSKI CAME UP TO SPEAK JUST A MINUTE AGO.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE THE LEADERSHIP LOOK, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 85 PERCENT OF TIME.

I MEAN, A LOT OF AGREEMENT WITH MS., SHERMAN.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE 100 PERCENT IN AGREEMENT.

AND THAT'S OK. WE STILL YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU AS CITY MANAGER.

YOU KNOW, ITEMS LIKE THIS, MOST OF THEM I DO TRUST, BUT WE STILL DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE OUR OUR INSIGHTS, OUR EXPERIENCE AND OUR PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS.

AND LOOK AT THESE. IT'S REALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY ULTIMATELY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IS ON OUR NECK. WE'RE THE ONES ARE GOING TO GET ELECTED AND UNELECTED.

IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO GET US ELECTED THAN IT IS TO GET HER REMOVED.

AND TRUST ME, I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE.

AND SO ANYHOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRUST THERE.

AND I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT, THAT THEY THINK THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD UP HERE.

AND I WANTED JUST TO WEIGH IN ON YOUR COMMENTS.

I THINK THIS COUNCIL AS A VAST.

A VAST NUMBER OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN DIFFERENT SECTORS FROM FROM GOVERNMENT TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO A TEACHER, WE'VE GOT BANKING EXPERIENCE.

WE'VE GOT A UNITED STATES MARSHAL, WE'VE GOT A BUSINESS OWNER.

WE'VE GOT SO THEY WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS OF EXPERIENCES.

AND AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS COUNCIL REALLY WELL AND WORKS WELL WITH YOU.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, MA'AM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND A LOT OF FAITH IN YOUR CAPABILITIES OF DOING THE DAY TO DAY.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU WEIGHING IN LIKE THAT.

COUNCILMAN BAILEY. I REALLY DO.

IT GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE HOW IMPORTANT THIS COUNCIL IS AND THE WAY WE WORK TOGETHER. WE MAY NOT AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE BRING SO VAST NUMBER OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND DIVERSE EXPERIENCE.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IN BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.

I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

[8. Ordinance 2021-37, amending the Code of Ordinances, by creating Chapter 42, Public Works Department, first reading.]

ON CONSENT, WHICH IS 20, 21 DAYS, 37, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BAVARO COUNTY, FLORIDA, MANY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE IMMISERATION BY CREATING CHAPTER 42 TO BE TITLED PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION, THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

YEAH, I PULLED THIS, BUT MAY I SUGGEST TO MULCHER, MAYBE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THIS SHOULD SUFFER THE SAME FATE AS THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE WHERE WE TABLED IT UNTIL WE HAD THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR THERE WAS WITHDRAWN AND THAT TABLE WAS WITHDRAWN. THANK YOU. WE CAN CERTAINLY WITHDRAW THIS ONE AS WELL.

THIS ALSO WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THIS ONE BACK AT SOME POINT BECAUSE WE FOUND IN OUR PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE DEPARTMENT ORDINANCES THAT SOME DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENTS WERE ACTUALLY NEVER CREATED VIA ORDINANCE AND PUBLIC WORKS WAS ONE OF THEM.

THEY'VE BEEN WITH US FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

THEY NEVER HAD AN ORDINANCE.

SO IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD THIS TONIGHT WITH LIKE AN ADDITION BACK IN OF FLEET LANGUAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE WOULD JUST NOT HAVE ONE.

AND I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN THAT WAY FOR A WHILE, SO I'D BE OK WITH THAT IF YOU ALL ARE.

OH, THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.

SINCE WE WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR PUBLIC WORKS WERE TWOFOLD, REALLY.

IT'S TO CREATE THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT NEVER EXISTED.

AND THEN BECAUSE WE WERE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION OR I WAS MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BAILEY AND PROCUREMENT MOVE, IT DID NOT INCLUDE LANGUAGE SAYING THAT THE FLEET DIVISION WAS PART OF PUBLIC WORKS.

SO I BELIEVE WE WE NEED AN ORDINANCE FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

GENTLEMEN, I CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING, I GUESS IS MY POINT.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOW.

IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. ALSO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALLOWS FOR A MOTION ON THIS.

[01:35:03]

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.

I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION ON THIS.

REAL QUICK, SO WE NEED TO CREATE WE NEED TO CREATE AWARENESS FOR PUBLIC WORKS, BUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO DOWN THE LINE AFTER WE GET THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND WHATEVER COUNCIL DECIDES WHERE FLEETS EITHER THIS OR WILL ADD FLEET TO A PROCUREMENT.

CORRECT. OR I WOULD SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

AND PATRICIA IS GOING TO WEIGH IN, TOO.

CLEARLY WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ESTABLISHED, WE SHOULD ESTABLISH IT WITH FLEET INCLUDED.

YEAH, NO, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

WE CAN CREATE LANGUAGE NOW HERE IN THE MEETING.

AND BECAUSE I HAVE SOME LANGUAGE FROM THE SHERMAN ORDINANCE AND WE CAN DO THAT OR I JUST DRAW IT AND I BRING IT BACK TO CLEAN OUT A FUTURE MEETING BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE I WOULD APPRECIATE IF MISS PATRICIA CAN HELP ME WITH THE LANGUAGE, THE PREFERENCE, AND WE COULD TAKE THE FLEET LANGUAGE.

AND THEY CERTAINLY TAKE THAT SAME LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD IN PROCUREMENT.

AND WE JUST ADD IT HERE INTO THIS ORDINANCE AND IT CERTAINLY WILL BE ADDED BEFORE YOU ALL WHEN YOU APPROVE IT AT A SECOND RATE.

ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE TAKING EVERYTHING THIS YEAR AND YOU'RE ADDING IN FLEET.

SO YOU'RE APPROVING PUBLIC WORKS AS IT IS.

CERTAINLY IF YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE IT LATER, YOU AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO TAKE OUT FLEET.

BUT RIGHT NOW, FLEET WOULD BE AS IT IS.

THE FLEET LANGUAGE IS ALREADY IN THE AUDIENCE, WAS THAT.

TWENTY, TWENTY ONE THIRTY FOUR, CHAPTER THIRTY EIGHT.

NOW, IF YOU WANT DEAL, YOU CAN JUST ADD THE.

S. G WILL WRITE IT UNDER THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT SHE CAN MAKE IT F, WHICH B PROVIDES COMPLETE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE AND ON SCHEDULE REPAIRS AND LIFECYCLE MANAGEMENT OF VEHICLES OWNED AND MANAGED BY THE CITY.

YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION WHEN WE MAKE THE MOTION.

YEAH, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN FOSTER LUTSEN THIS WAY, I SAID ABOUT PROCUREMENT THAT THE CITY MANAGER WANTED TO PUT THE BAILEY PROCUREMENT.

THAT'S WHY I MADE THE COMMENT I MADE.

HOW ARE WE GOING GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES HERE? I DON'T SEE HOW LEE COULD BE PART OF PUBLIC WORKS.

SO I SAID, HOW COME IT WORKS WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT? EVERY DEPARTMENT. NOT ABOUT SALARIES, NOT ABOUT TITLES.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PUBLIC WORKS FLEET WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

THINK ABOUT THAT A SECOND.

IT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE TO ME, BUT.

NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE WE HAVE TO CREATE A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS THIS OR WE DON'T HAVE A DEPARTMENT. FOSTER OR COUNCILWOMAN, BAILEY, I MEAN, OH, YOU WOULD.

WE'RE GETTING TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS, I BELIEVE, WITH THIS ON A CARCINOGEN, ITEMS THAT'S TAKEN WAY TOO LONG AND WE'RE GETTING TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS WITH THIS.

WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER.

I HAVE 100 PERCENT CONFIDENCE IN HER AND HER DIRECTORS RUN THE CITY, WE REALLY I KNOW WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY UNDER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT REALLY GETTING IT, OUR JOB IS NOT TO MANAGE THE CITY.

THAT'S WHY WE HIRE A CITY MANAGER IF WE ARE GOING TO BE FIVE CITY MANAGER ON THIS DYAS I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE UP IT COULD BE HERE EVERY DAY.

IF WE MANAGE IN PARKS AND REC, WE COULD MANAGE MANAGING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, WE REALLY GETTING IN THE WEEDS INTO THIS.

I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER PUT THESE ITEMS. I'M QUITE SURE SHE THOUGHT ABOUT THEM AND I HAD MY BRIEFING WITH HER AND I WENT OVER THAT AND I WAS CLEAR TO IT, OH, LET'S.

I LEAVE IT UP TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR, I BELIEVE HE'S GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AND.

WHO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS.

SHOULDN'T BE A PART OF IT, BUT I SUPPORTED.

HOUR OF THE NIGHT, EVENING.

ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT AN ASSASSIN YOU RECOGNIZE.

ARE YOU READY TO MAKE THAT MISSION GO AHEAD.

[01:40:02]

OK, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR NITZ.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE DEATHS, 37, WITH REVISION OF ADDING SUBSECTION F.

PROVIDES COMPLETE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, SCHEDULED AND UNSCHEDULED REPAIRS AND LIFECYCLE MANAGEMENT OF VEHICLES OWNED AND MANAGED BY THE CITY.

FIRST READING I CAN I'VE GOT A I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NONE OF THEM FAVOR ANY, OPPOSE US UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.

I'M CONSENT.

ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH THIRTY EIGHT, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE MEANING OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION BY CREATING CHAPTER 43 TO BE TITLE PARTS AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

COUNCILMAN BAILEY. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WON'T BELABOR IT'S THE SAME THING FROM ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 21 DASH DURING THREE, WHERE WE CREATE THE REC DEPARTMENT BY NOW, ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATING PARKS FROM IT AND FACILITIES. SO THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER.

I NEED TO PULL THEM TOGETHER.

I REMAIN NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE OR THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH. THIRTY EIGHT. FIRST READING, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.

I ANY OPPOSE.

THIS IS FOR ONE ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN ON CONSENT.

[11. Consideration of an amendment to Redevelopment Incentive Agreement between the Bayfront Community Redevelopment Agency (BCRA) and NorthShore Development, LLC.]

FIRST, RADNOFSKY, FOLLOWED BY BELBEK.

RANDALL CHAYEFSKY 287 NEVILL CIRCLE NE THIS IS MY LAST CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, I PULLED MY APOLOGIES AGAIN. YOU BRING ME TWENTY ONE CONSENT ITEMS I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ALL OF YOU.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MADE IT VERY CLEAR AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING HOW I FEEL ABOUT CEREMONIES FOR WHICH THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.

AND I DO NOT WANT THIS ITEM TO BE A CEREMONY FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS DECIDED, IN MY OPINION, IN A TIME CRUNCH MEETING EARLIER THIS EVENING.

NOW, THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE BAKRA, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE IN SOME DIALOG AND HAD SOME HEALTHY POLITICAL DEBATE AROUND THIS ISSUE AND CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY DID.

BUT I DO FEEL THAT PERHAPS MORE CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE HAD UP TO AND INCLUDING, IF NECESSARY, TAKING THIS ITEM OUT OF COUNCIL AND BRINGING IT BACK TO BESHARA TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FACTS ARE ESTABLISHED.

AND WHAT I SEE AS A CITIZEN, AS A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE, AS WAS REFERRED TO IN THAT MEETING, IS AN INCENTIVE THAT WE GAVE TO A DEVELOPER TO BUILD US SOME COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE, IF YOU WILL, AND FOLLOW THAT UP WITH THE RESIDENTIAL THAT THEY FOUND NECESSARY TO FACILITATE THAT.

WE GOT THE OPPOSITE.

WE GOT SOME LUXURY APARTMENTS ON US, ONE WHICH IS GREAT, AND WE DON'T HAVE COMMERCIAL TO STAND FOR IT. AND THE INCENTIVE THAT WE GAVE THEM WAS WE SAID, IF YOU BUILD THIS FOR US AND YOU BUILD IT BY THIS TIME DECEMBER OF 2021, THEN WE WILL GIVE YOU A TAX ABATEMENT, A TAX REBATE, WHATEVER THE PARTICULAR LANGUAGE IS, I'M NOT THE ATTORNEY WILL GIVE YOU A TAX BENEFIT FOR DELIVERING THIS WHOLE PACKAGE IN THIS TIME FRAME THAT WE LAY OUT.

AND THEN AS A CITY, WE BENT OVER BACKWARDS, MADE ACCOMMODATIONS, DID EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD, AND THEY DID NOT DELIVER OR WON'T DELIVER BY DECEMBER.

SO AT THIS POINT, THE WATER IS BECOMING VERY MUDDY IN THE THOUGHT THAT IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM THIS TAX INCENTIVE, THAT THEY WON'T CARRY ON WITH THE PROJECT.

BUT AS A LOGICAL MAN STANDING BEFORE YOU TODAY COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THEY WILL PROCEED WITH THAT PROJECT.