Jun 09, 2021 Citizens' Budget Advisory Board

ALREADY, THIS IS AARON PARR, CHAIRMAN OF THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, CALLING THIS

[CALL TO ORDER]

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FIRST UP IS ROLL CALL, IF WE CAN HAVE THAT DONE.

AARON PARR. RECEIVER.

RANDALL OSOFSKY.

PRESIDENT. ALBERTA CLINKSCALES PRESIDENT.

HE FILBERTO HERE.

THEY BEAUCHAMP BEAUCHAMP.

IT WAS IN CONNELY. AWESOME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE IN ATTENDANCE. LET WE START GET TO THE NITTY GRITTY.

GOOD STUFF HERE. FIRST UP IS ADOPTION OF MINUTES, IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER IT.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH FIVE FROM 12, 20, 21.

I CAN. EMOTION IS SECOND TO THE MINUTES, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I SUPPOSE.

YOU KNOW. ALL RIGHT, AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE STATEMENT BEING MADE TO ASKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AS THERE ARE NONE.

BEAUTIFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO MORE OR LESS TO WHERE ULTIMATELY WE AS A BOARD WOULD CONTROL ULTIMATELY THE.

AND BOTH OF WHAT EXACTLY WE WANT TO DISCUSS AT THE MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE

[2. Budget Amendment and Monitoring Reports for review/discussion.]

TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION DISCUSSED PRIOR.

US OPENING OUR DISCUSSION, IF THAT WOULD BE OK.

BILUM. ALSO.

BUDGET AMENDMENT MONITORING REPORTS FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION, IF YOU HAVE YOUR ANYTHING YOU'RE WANTING TO SHARE WITH US OF THESE FIRST.

EVENING, THIS IS ANGELICA COLLINS.

I'M THE FISCAL MANAGER IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, MY TEAM PREPARES THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND I PREPARE THE MONITORING REPORT.

SO USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WE DO QUARTERLY BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND THOSE SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO YOU AFTER THE ORDINANCE IS FINALIZED.

BUT DUE TO ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD IN ALL THE PRESENTATIONS I'VE HELD OFF UNTIL THIS MEETING TO ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THE FIRST AND THE SECOND QUARTER.

SO YOU WHAT YOU'LL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE FIRST AND THE SECOND QUARTER BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND THEIR ORDINANCES.

SO THOSE ARE ALL.

AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZED, PUT TOGETHER AND THEN OFFICIALLY THEY ARE AMENDED IN THE SYSTEM VIA AN ORDINANCE READING.

SO IT'S JUST A MEMO IN ADDITION TO JUST A SUMMARY LIST OF ALL THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE BUDGET. SO THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH SHOW THREE THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL JANUARY 21ST IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 20 21, DASH 19 WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 15TH.

WE DO HAVE THE THIRD BUDGET AMENDMENT GOING TO COUNCIL IN THE MONTH OF JULY.

THE SECOND READING SHOULD BE THE I BELIEVE IT'S THE SECOND REGULAR SCHEDULE COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS JULY 15TH.

SO THEN IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING THE THIRD BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH SUMMARIZES ALL OF THE CHANGES FOR THAT PARTICULAR QUARTER.

IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE FIRST AND THEN I CAN MOVE ON TO THE BUDGET MONITORING REPORT. AFTER THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE.

THIS IS AN FBI TYPE THING, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

OH, I MEAN.

YES, SO WITHIN YOUR BYLAWS, IT DOES STATE THAT YOU ARE DUE TO RECEIVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AFTER IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

ALSO, WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, THE MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE ACTUAL AMENDMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL THROUGHOUT THE QUARTER. SO THE PROCESS IS IF A DEPARTMENT IS IN NEED OF AMENDING THEIR BUDGET AND WE HAVE QUALIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO DO THAT PROCESS THAT YOU GAVE US.

YES. AND THEN THEY THEY GO TO COUNCIL DURING A REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING VIA A MEMO. AND ESSENTIALLY COUNCIL APPROVES IT AT THAT MEETING.

AND THE AMENDMENT ITSELF IS, FOR THE MAJORITY, JUST A CLEAN UP OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT HAVE

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THAT'S COMING UP IN JULY, THAT THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED YET, THE ITEMS, THE MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT'S ASK FOR THOSE ITEMS. THEY HAVE A CHANCE EVERY TWO WEEKS TO TO ASK FOR A BUDGETARY TYPE ITEM THAT WILL BE AMENDING THEIR BUDGET.

SO AS SOON AS COUNCIL APPROVES THOSE, THEN TECHNICALLY THAT REQUEST IS APPROVED.

BUT THE THE BUDGET ITSELF, THE AMENDMENT TO THAT, THAT DOES NOT GO TO COUNCIL UNTIL JULY.

AND IT'S AN ORDINANCE.

SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S IT'S A CLEANUP OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL. IT'S AN F SIZED.

YES. SO IT'S SORT OF AN FYI TO YOU.

BUT I WILL ALSO SAY IT'S ON OUR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS ARE SORT OF AN F WHY? I DO LIKE THAT'S WHY IF YOU GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AMENDMENT ACTUAL MEMO, A LOT OF THE ITEMS YOU'LL SEE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, IT'LL HAVE A DATE BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED THAT REQUEST. AND WE'RE ESSENTIALLY JUST REGULATORY WISE HAVING TO TO CLEAN UP THE BUDGET. THANK YOU.

AGAIN, I'LL ADD THAT THIS IS ALSO PERTAINING TO FISCAL YEAR 21, YES, 20, 21 YEAR WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NOW HERE HERE TO DISCUSS 22.

I MEAN, YES, THIS IS PART OF OUR BYLAWS AND THINGS THAT WE ARE PRESENTED WITH THIS AFTER THE FACT. AND IT'S THOSE LITTLE MODIFICATIONS HERE AND THERE.

YES. IT ADDS UP TO A LOT OF MONEY.

YES, IT DOES. BUT IT DOES.

IT'S THESE THINGS HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, MANY OF THEM UNPREDICTED, UNFORESEEN, AND ULTIMATELY. YES, THEN IT HAS TO BE PUT IN THE CHECKBOOK AND NOTED IN.

SO SATISFIED AND REVIEWED IN THAT MANNER, SO YES, IT IS LARGELY WHY I SAY THIS IS HAPPENING. SO THAT'S A FACT OF THE MATTER.

SO, YES, IF ANYBODY IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

ON. ALL RIGHT, THE SECOND ITEM THAT YOU HAVE UNDER BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER TWO, IS THE BUDGET MONITORING REPORT FOR THIS PARTICULAR FISCAL YEAR.

SO THIS IS A NEW ITEM I CREATED.

SO THESE ARE THE FIRST TWO THAT YOU SEE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED.

SO THIS WAS SORT OF A INITIATIVE THAT I HAD IN WHAT I DO IN REGARDS TO JUST AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT AND IT'S ALSO A GENERAL FINANCIAL FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OR GIVE AWAY A RECOMMENDATION THAT ISD FREQUENTLY DOES BUDGET MONITORING.

SO I PLAN TO DO THEM QUARTERLY.

SO WHAT I DO IS AS I WAIT UNTIL THE OFFICIAL FINANCIAL REPORT IS PUBLISHED BY OUR IOWA DEPARTMENT AND WE WAIT FOR THAT MONTHLY CLOSEOUT.

SO I JUST TAKE THE QUARTER AND I ESSENTIALLY CREATE A LITTLE SIX PAGE REPORT THAT WILL SHOW YOU ANYTHING FROM ALL FUNDS.

AND THEN THIS GENERAL FUND IN PARTICULAR WILL LOOK AT OUR REVENUES AND OUR EXPENDITURES AND WE LOOK AT WHAT'S KIND OF BEEN BUDGETED, WHAT'S BEEN SPENT TO DATE AND WHAT ARE THE BALANCES. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDE TO COUNSEL THAT WILL SHOW THEM MORE OF A REGULAR BASIS OF WHAT THIS SPENDING IS, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THE LARGER SPENDING IS OCCURRING, WHAT TYPE OF REVENUE IS STILL OUTSTANDING.

SO THIS IS MORE OF JUST A MONITORING THAT I DO FOR MYSELF.

I DO THE MONTHLY, BUT OFFICIALLY IT GETS PUT INTO A PUBLISHED REPORT THAT GOES TO COUNCIL ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TWO THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE NEXT ONE IS DUE TO COME OUT, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE MONTH OF MAY OR JUNE WHEN I JUST DO MY NEXT QUARTERLY REPORT.

SO I LUMP THEM UP THE THREE MONTHS AND I JUST PUBLISH THE DATA.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THIS IS YOU.

TAKING THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUDGET AND DOING IN PROGRESS UPDATE OF THAT TIME OF THE WRECK. YES, SO THE INFORMATION THAT'S PUBLISHED IS AS I LOOK AT THE APPROVED BUDGET, I LOOK AT THE AMENDED BUDGET, WHICH IS ALL THAT THOSE LITTLE THINGS YOU HAVE IN THOSE OTHER OTHER PAGES. AND I LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN SPENT AND ENCUMBERED TO DATE FOR THOSE THREE QUARTERS, AND THEN I JUST REPORT THAT TO COUNCIL.

SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY JUST A SPENDING UPDATE OR A REVENUE COLLECTION UPDATE OF WHERE WE STAND TODAY.

THAT'S ALL IT IS. SOMETHING.

YES, SO THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND IT IS A THROUGH OUR GENERAL FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, IT IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU YOU DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHETHER YOU DO A PUBLISHED REPORT OR NOT.

I DO THE MONITORING MONTHLY MYSELF.

AND I LOOK AT CORRECTIONS.

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BUT THEN TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL REPORTING TO COUNSEL, I CHOSE I'VE CHOSEN TO DO IT QUARTERLY AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL.

IT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

MR., IF YOU DON'T MIND. ALL RIGHT, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE SEVEN HERE, ITEM FOUR, 71, SOLID WASTE. I JUST WANT TO SEE REVENUES HERE.

SO SHOW IS WHERE YOU'RE 21 PERCENT COLLECTED AT TWENTY ONE POINT NINE PERCENT.

THOSE ARE COLLECTED FROM RESIDENTS.

SO LIKE 75 PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS DO NOT PAY THEIR GARBAGE BILL OR JUST TRYING TO READ IT CORRECTLY, THAT'S ALL. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHICH QUARTER ARE YOU LOOKING AT, QUARTER ONE OR QUARTER TO YOU? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO A QUARTER, ONE QUARTER ONE, PAGE SEVEN, ITEM 471, SOLID WASTE.

YES, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

SO GENERALLY, THE REVENUE THAT'S COLLECTED, THIS IS WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE ARE PAYING IN.

AND THIS IS, REMEMBER, FOR THE FIRST QUARTER.

SO THIS IS ENDING IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

SO YOU ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A QUARTER, 21 PERCENT, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THAT 25 PERCENT COLLECTION, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A LAG.

SO IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT HOLISTICALLY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THE FIRST YEAR, REALLY, WITH A NEW CONTRACT AS WELL, WHERE WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT IT. SO SUPPOSE YOU HAD THE SAME ANSWER FOR FISCAL YEAR.

TWENTY ONE PERCENT SPENT WHERE ONLY SHOWS NINETY SIX POINT SEVEN.

SO THAT THREE PERCENT THERE THERE'S NO.

SO SO THE SO WHAT THE REPORT ALSO ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE INCLUDES ARE ACTUAL SPEND AND INCUMBENCIES. SO WHAT AN INCUMBENCIES IS IF SOMEONE ISSUED A PURCHASE ORDER AND THAT PURCHASE ORDER LET'S SAY IS FOR THAT TOTAL AMOUNT, YOUR INTENT TO SPEND IS THAT TOTAL AMOUNT. SO THIS IS A CONTRACTUAL ITEM.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT LARGE AMOUNT BEING BEING SPENT.

BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT IS, IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST YOUR ACTUAL CASH GOING OUT, BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT AND YOU HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER WITH A VENDOR WHERE YOU'VE LOCKED IN A PRICE AND YOUR INTENT OF SPENDING, THAT IS ALREADY GONE.

SO ESSENTIALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THEY HAVE NO MORE FUNDING TO SPEND, EVEN THOUGH THE CASH HASN'T GONE OUT YET.

A NEUTRAL STANDPOINT VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE SAME ITEM, SO PURCHASE ORDER TO THE VENDOR THAT IS ACTUALLY SERVICING IT.

YES, WE GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S PRELIMINARY TO US AND THROUGH THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND ONCE WE SIGN WITH THAT VENDOR, THEN WE CREATE THAT PURCHASE ORDER AND THAT PURCHASE ORDER IS TO THAT VENDOR WHO WILL BE DOING THE SERVICE. AND IT'S FOR A PARTICULAR AMOUNT THAT IT'S BEEN AGREED ON BETWEEN.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERY FORTY FIVE, SIX OR NINE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT.

AND. BECAUSE THAT WOULD AFFECT WATER EVERY 90 DAYS AND THEY WOULDN'T BE SO HAPPY.

SO FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT AND FROM A REPORTING, WE DO INCLUDE THAT ENCUMBRANCE BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THEY INTEND, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, IS THIS THAT IS TO SPEND THAT WHOLE AMOUNT AND WE WON'T BE APPROVING ANY ADDITIONAL PURCHASE ORDERS WITHIN THAT FUND THAT WOULD EXCEED WHAT'S BEEN BUDGETED FOR THE YEAR.

BECAUSE WE KNOW EVEN THOUGH THE CASH HASN'T BEEN SPENT, YOUR INTENT OF SPENDING IT BY THE END OF THE YEAR IS ALREADY THERE.

SO WE KIND OF PUT THAT THAT MONEY ASIDE.

LIKE A. LIKE AN ACCRUAL OF ACCOUNTING.

SORT OF, YEAH, SO YEAH, SO YOU WILL TYPE THINK IT'S SORT OF IT.

SO IF THAT'S MORE THE ACCOUNTING SIDE OF THINGS FROM A BUDGETARY SIDE, IT'S YOUR INCOME.

AND SO YOU HAVE A BUDGET OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND LET'S SAY THAT YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT, KNOW, WITH, WITH SOMEONE SERVICING YOUR HOME FOR GRASS CUTTING FOR THE YEAR, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS AND YOU MAY SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM SO THAT TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS, EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE NOT SPENT IT ALL YET, YOU WILL BE SPENDING IT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO WE ALREADY SHOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN TECHNICALLY BEEN SPENT, EVEN THOUGH THE CASH HASN'T GONE TO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOVING ON TO. OUR DISCUSSION OF OUR PRIORITIES REGARDING DEPARTMENT OF BUDGETS, I

[1. Discussion of CBAB members’ top priorities regarding departmental budgets]

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ANGELICA, IF YOU COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING THE ANTICIPATED MILITARY IMAGERY, WHAT DO WE KNOW? WHEN DO WE EXPECT THINGS TO BE DONE? KNOW IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT? SURE. SO WE HAVE RECEIVED OUR PRELIMINARY EVALUATIONS FROM THE COUNTY.

THOSE CAME IN ON MAY 27.

WITH THAT, I AM ABLE TO CALCULATE A PRELIMINARY THREE PERCENT PRELIMINARY ROLL BACK.

ALL THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED WITH A CITY MANAGER.

WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH WITH COUNSEL AT THIS TIME.

WE ARE YOU KNOW, A BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVELY ALSO CHECKING WITH THE WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE TO ENSURE EVALUATIONS ARE ARE PRETTY GOOD.

AND WE WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM TO WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FLUID. AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IT IN MORE DETAIL AT OUR JUNE TWENTY SECOND WORKSHOP.

SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL SEE THE PRELIMINARY OPTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS A RATE THAT WE WILL BE MOVING AHEAD WITH NOW IN THE MONTH OF JULY.

IT'S USUALLY RIGHT BEFORE FOURTH OF JULY IS WHEN THE FINAL EVALUATIONS WILL COME IN AND THE RATE AT THAT POINT WILL CHANGE.

IT ALWAYS HAS.

IT MAY NOT BE A WHOLE LOT, BUT THAT RATE WILL CHANGE.

SO THEN WITH THOSE FINAL EVALUATIONS COMING IN, I WILL BE ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT PROPOSED MILITARY THAT WE WILL OFFICIALLY BE PRESENTING TO COUNCIL IN MID-JULY AT THEIR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. AND WOULD IT BE.

SAFE FOR US TO EXPECT TO KNOW THAT MILITARY FIRE, JULY SIX MEETING.

YOU PROPOSED. I THINK I'LL DISCUSS IT PROPOSED AND THE HIGHEST PAID THREE PERCENT CAP ROLLBACK RATES. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN GET TOGETHER.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW FAST THE PROPERTY APPRAISER CAN GET THE INFORMATION TO ME.

USUALLY I'LL SEE THAT COME IN BEFORE THE FOURTH OF JULY.

AND I KNOW 4TH OF JULY IS A WEEKEND, SO I'M HOPING THAT THEY'LL GET IT, YOU KNOW, THAT WEEK BEFORE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A.

IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THAT I CAN WRITE DOWN AND WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS WITHOUT. BUT THIS TIME, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE DO NOT KNOW A NUMBER OR ARE NOT BEING.

YEAH, IT'S NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION JUST YET, IT YEAH, IT'S VERY PRELIMINARY, AND I KNOW WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH CITY COUNCIL.

SO I YOU KNOW, I PREFER TO, YOU KNOW.

I KNOW IF SUZANNE WAS HERE, BUT I'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH HER, BUT WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL AND WE'RE PUTTING INTO RATES SOME RATES TOGETHER, SOME OPTIONS FOR THE JUNE 20 SECOND COUNCIL WORKSHOP.

I'M ALREADY WORKING ON THAT OSM.

JUST REITERATING WHAT TIME IS THAT WORKSHOP ON JUNE 22ND, IT SHOULD START AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT THING I HAVE BEFORE WE GET TO OUR PARTIES IS A COUPLE OF THINGS I DID WANT TO GET CLEARED OR TO FEEL MY HUMOR, MEANING FOR A MOMENT, ANGELICA JENO, A PROJECTED NUMBER REGARDING WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMMITTED TO OF.

THE. NEW FUNDS GENERATED BY OUR NEW MILITARY, I KNOW EVERY YEAR THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OR A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN COMMITTED BY CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

WONDERING, AS DO WE, IS THERE A NUMBER THAT'S BEEN COMMITTED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR? LAST YEAR WAS SOMEWHERE IN AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS ALREADY COMMITTED BEFORE EVEN DISCUSSING. NO, I KNOW THE EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS I BELIEVE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WAS A RESERVED AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE AND I THINK THAT'S STILL ON THE BOOKS I HAVE GONE THROUGH AND DONE ALL OF OUR DEBT SERVICE.

SO SO I KNOW THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I'VE KIND OF BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER ALREADY.

SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, I KNOW THAT EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND NOT RELATED TO ROAD MAINTENANCE, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER NUMBER THAT WAS A AN ITEM THAT WAS ON THE BOOKS DUE TO I BELIEVE IT WAS RELATED TO ISD ATTORNEY ITEM.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS STILL ON THE BOOKS.

I'M JUST MORE OR LESS REFERRING TO I KNOW IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS BEING ON THIS BOARD, WE'VE WE'VE SEEN.

BASICALLY, WE WERE TOLD THIS CHUNK OF ITEMS CAN'T TOUCH IS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED, WE HAVE TO DO IS BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY AGREED INSIDE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT MONEYS CAME IN, IF WE HAD A NEW ONE POINT FIVE DOLLARS MILLION OF GENERATED REVENUE GROWTH FUND.

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RIGHT. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LIST OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH ALL THE BUDGET MEETINGS AS WE SPEAK.

SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH WITH EACH DEPARTMENT KNOWING WHAT THE ITEMS ARE PUT INTO THE BUDGET ALREADY. AND WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.

SO WE JUST FINISHED PARKS AND RECREATION TODAY AND THEN WE HAVE A VERY HEAVY DAY ON FRIDAY. AND NEXT MONDAY IS OUR LAST DAY WHERE WE WILL BE HAVING MEETINGS WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS. SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT AT THE MOMENT AT ITS OWN.

SO AT THE MOMENT I MAY NOT HAVE THAT LIST, BUT I THINK AFTER NEXT MONDAY WE WOULD BE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.

AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR THAT.

I WILL SHARE AND I WANT TO FIRST APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I HAD AN EPIPHANY EARLIER TODAY.

REQUEST YOU ALL.

PROBABLY RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM ANGELICA EARLIER TODAY AT MY REQUEST, TO HAVE ALL THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US LUMPED INTO ONE EMAIL.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S TRYING TO DO THAT, WHERE WE HAVE ONE SOURCE REFER BACK AND THEN IT WASN'T, I THINK FIVE MINUTES LATER I SENT HER ANOTHER EMAIL, MORE SPECIFICALLY, IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE TO PRINT OFF JUST THE PRIORITIES, BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

AND THAT WAS HERE AT YOUR SEAT WHEN YOU GOT IN HERE, THE DEPARTMENTAL PRIORITIES.

AND THIS IS JUST BASICALLY IT'S JUST THAT ONE OR TWO SLIDES FROM EACH DEPARTMENT.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT REQUESTING THAT EARLIER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEFINITELY HELPFUL, BUT I'M GLAD TO HAVE IT AS IF WE NEED TO DISCUSS THINGS AMONG EACH OTHER, REFER TO IT AND SAY, HEY, TURN TO THIS PAGE THIS WAY.

WE CAN DO THAT NOW WITH EACH OTHER WITH.

EXACTLY. IT'S RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US.

SO I DEFINITELY THANK HER FOR COMMENTING ON THAT REQUEST IN THE 11TH HOUR.

BUT I APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD FOR NOT THINKING OF THAT EARLIER.

I GUESS AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP, AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST AND SHARE WHAT YOU GUYS THINKS ARE THE PRIORITIES AFTER HAVING SOME TIME TO DOVE INTO THESE AND. AND THINK ABOUT IT, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO.

I CAN GO FIRST, I'LL OPEN IT UP.

I DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT THE BUDGET AS FAR AS THE PRIORITIES THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, I WAS LOOKING AT IT MORE OF A CITIZEN COMMUNITY.

BASIS AND THE ONE THING YOU WANTED US TO DO WAS TO COME UP WITH FIVE ITEMS, WHICH I'M GLAD FOR MY ITEMS WAS ON THE LIST OF PRIORITIES.

OF THAT, THOSE ITEMS, IT WAS POLICE, FIRE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND.

I THAT I FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE PRIORITIES BECAUSE THEY COULD ACTUALLY BE.

REVENUE GENERATING ITEMS. BUT THESE DEPARTMENTS, OF COURSE, THE POLICE AND FIRE THAT'S PUBLIC.

HANDS DOWN, I MEAN, THOSE ARE PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICERS, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT, LAST YEAR, PART OF IT DID A HIRING FREEZE.

AND THEN I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS HE STATED, THE OFFICERS WERE GOING TO BE RETIREES, WHICH WOULD HAVE LEFT THEM SHORT PERSONNEL, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T EVER WANT TO THINK ABOUT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING CONSTANTLY AND I DON'T EVER WANT TO THINK ABOUT NOT BEING.

I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS SPIES HERE REALLY NEEDED THE GEAR, SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES AND COMES TO THAT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE FIRE CHIEF IN REGARDS TO WHERE SHE ACTUALLY GETS OUT THERE AND HUSTLE TO BRING IN GRANT MONEY.

SO, OF COURSE, ANY DEPARTMENT THAT PRETTY MUCH TRIES TO HELP THE CITY OUT, LOWER IT TO THE CONSTITUENTS, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THEM BECAUSE THEY POTENTIALLY CAN HELP FUND THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT WITH FREE MONEY.

AND ONE THING THAT SCARED ME IS THAT WE HAD FOUR ENGINES IN OUR AREA THAT'S ALMOST 40 YEARS OLD. I DID MY RESEARCH CONTACT THE NEIGHBORING CITIES, THEY HAVE NEW ONE FOR US TO BE GROWING AS FAST AS WE ARE.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE OLDER ONES, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT WHOLE AREA.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

MELBOURNE, SMALLER AREA COMPARED TO HOW FAST WE'RE GROWING.

AND THEY'RE OLDER. WHO ARE ENGINES?

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I'LL BE TOMORROW, THURSDAY, THE 10TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS AT SIX P.M..

HE DIDN'T MISS IT, HE DIDN'T MISS IT.

FIND THE POSITIVE I HAD TO GET HERE, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO GO BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE IT WILL BE. IT'S LIKE SOMETHING ELSE THAT.

AND THE FACT IS, I'M GLAD THEY'RE GOING TO REOPEN THAT STATION ON PALM BAY ROAD BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING THERE AND I FEEL LIKE A STATION ON MALABAR IS TOTALLY EXHAUSTED BECAUSE IT'S SERVICE SO MUCH.

AND BECAUSE I DO WRITE INSURANCE, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR BAYSIDE TO ACTUALLY GET A STATION BECAUSE IT WILL LOWER THEIR INSURANCE COSTS, HAVING A FIRE STATION WITHIN FIVE MILES. EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE AGENTS THAT SAY THEY HAVE ONE WITHIN FIVE MILES, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE IN FIVE MILES.

COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WAS A BIG THING FOR ME BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE COMMUNICATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF OUR CITY AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP AND BRING TO THE AREA.

BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S LIKE THE DAY WE HAD A MEETING, ALL THESE COMMERCIAL SPACES ARE BEING BUILT, NOT BEING WHO HAD MORE COMMUNICATION THAN YOU COULD ACTUALLY DEVELOPER COME IN AND PUT IN A BID TO PUT CERTAIN PROPERTIES THERE.

YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO REALLY BE A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO DRAW THE ATTENTION THEY ARE EXPECTING TO GET HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS OLDER THAT NEED HELP.

THE CITY OF MELBOURNE CITY, AKOKO, OTHER CITIES ACTUALLY HELP THOSE TYPE OF CONSTITUENTS BEAUTIFY THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEIR HOUSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IS THE TARGET.

WHEN YOU FIRST WALK INTO THE CITY OR COME INTO THE CITY, THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE.

SO IF YOU SEE AN EYESORE, SO TO SPEAK, IT'S NOT APPEALING FOR THE CITY.

SO IT'S MORE OF A WAY TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE PRIDE IN OUR PROPERTIES BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DO HAVE PRIDE. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO ACTUALLY DO IT.

AND I KNOW WHEN THEY WENT OVER IT, THERE'S FUNDING FOR IT.

THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO ACTUALLY SERVICE THAT.

SO THE FACT IS WE HAVE THAT GRANT MONEY THERE.

THEY NEED THE PERSONNEL TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT MONEY.

AND IF THE MONEY IS THERE TO GIVE OUT, WE JUST ARE WE HAVE TO DO IS ADD PEOPLE I DON'T SEE THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

PROCUREMENT, OF COURSE, IS THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, MAKING SURE THAT WE TRY OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE OUR CONSTITUENTS DEMOGRAPHICALLY ARE REPRESENTED AT THE CITY AND THAT THAT MONEY THAT WE SPEND NOW THAT TAXPAYERS PAY FOR IT, IT'S BEST TO STAY IN OUR CITY BECAUSE HALF OF THE TIME IT'S POINTS TO OTHER CITIES OUTSIDE OUR CITY.

THAT MONEY NEVER COMES BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PAYS THE TAXES.

PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING AS SHE'S PRESENTING.

PROBABLY AND HOPEFULLY WILL OVERLAP WITH OUR PRIORITY.

SORT OF OR.

THAT WILL COME FROM OUR.

I WANT TO FIRST SAY THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT, AND I GUESS I NEED TO DISCLOSE KIND OF MY THOUGHTS HERE. I WANT US TO HEAR ALL OF EACH OTHER'S PRIORITIES, WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHERE OUR THOUGHTS ARE BASED ON, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND THEN I KNOW FOR OUR NEXT MEETING WE WOULD BE GENERATING A PRESENTATION OR STATEMENT OR OUR LIST OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES AS A BOARD.

AND I'M GOING TO STRESS THAT IS NOT ME, THAT IS NOT ANY ONE OF YOU.

THAT IS AS A BOARD OR COMING TOGETHER.

WHAT WE HAVE COME TOGETHER TO SAY, THESE ARE OUR TOP PRIORITY.

I KNOW IN YEARS PAST THIS BOARD, WE'VE TRIED TO SAY WITH THIS MONEY, WE SAY, YOU BUY THIS, YOU BUY THIS, YOU BUY.

I KIND OF DON'T WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE.

IT ALMOST LEFT US FEELING LIKE THE BOARD DID NOT HAVE.

REALLY LOUD VOICE BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO TELL.

CITY MANAGER TELL THE COUNCIL THIS IS WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY ON THESE DOLLARS.

EXACTLY. OH, I WANT TO GEARED TOWARDS WHERE ARE WE HEAR FROM OTHER CITIZENS AND WHAT WE FEEL OURSELVES AS OUR PRIORITIES AND THEN SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

WE ARE CITIZENS. WE ARE HEARING FROM OTHER CITIZENS.

THIS IS WHAT WE VIEW PRIORITIES.

YOU CAN TAKE IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, CITIZENS BOARD AND SAID THIS FROM OTHER CITIZENS AND THEIR PERSPECTIVE. THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TO LISTEN TO IT OR NOT.

PRIORITIES. AND THAT'S KIND OF MY MOTIVE HERE, MY MOTIVATION, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS OUR NEXT MEETING IS WE'RE GOING TO COME TOGETHER AGAIN AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, LET'S LET'S HASH

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LET'S MAKE A TOP FIVE LIST, SAY, WHEN THEY GO INTO LOOKING AT THIS WITH THAT CURRENT MILITARY. THEY'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE PRIORITIES CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, WITH REFERENCE OF OTHER CITIZENS, SAID THIS IS THEIR PRIME.

WANTING US TO TAKE A SPECIAL LOOK AT SEIBERT.

THAT'S BOB, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AT. OUR SITE IS.

YES, OR.

THAT. WHERE WE CAN BE OF MOST VALUE.

AND IN. ETAL.

JUST KEEP GOING FROM THE LEFT, YOU GUYS DON'T MIND.

SO IN TERMS OF THE MEETINGS THAT I HAVE HAD WITH RESIDENTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS DISCUSSED IS THE PRIORITY OF COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND.

I'M LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGET.

THE. NOT JUST THAT, BUT LET ME GO LET ME JUST SAY THAT THAT'S A GENERAL AND THIS THE BUDGET IS WHAT IT IS, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO START SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO COME OFF AND WHAT DON'T.

I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.

YOU HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH.

YOU'RE A CITIZEN. AND THAT'S I WANT TO FOCUS.

THAT'S WHO WE ARE. IF WE FEEL THINGS.

SPEAK YOUR MIND, PLEASE.

YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AS A BOARD, BUT PLEASE DON'T HOLD BACK.

WE'RE ALL THE SAME. WAIT HERE.

OH. WELL, THE BUDGET PRIORITIES, THEMES, IF THIS IS EVERYTHING, BECAUSE I LOOKED AT EACH ONE OF THESE AND SOME THINGS ARE MS. OFF. THEY GAVE THAT SHE PRINT OUT LIKE THE ACTUAL BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR PUBLIC WORKS IS NOT ON THERE, SO I HAD TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE, SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ACTUALLY ARE. THE CURRENT EVENTS THAT THE CURRENT BUDGET IS NOT IN WHAT I ASKED HER TO PRINT OUT TODAY, THIS WAS THAT WAS ALREADY CURRENTLY DONE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ALLOTTING NOW.

THESE ARE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IN THE NEW FUNDING.

I DON'T SEE THAT FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

A ONE PAGER, THIS THE.

BUDGET PRIORITIES, BUT THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE, AT LEAST ON MINE, WE OWN UTILITIES.

I DON'T SEE ANY NUMBERS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER PER EACH ITEM THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

OK, OK, SO.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.

I WOULD TAKE MORE TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS, BUT IF I HAD TO SAY SOMETHING TODAY THAT I KNOW I'VE BEEN HEARING IN MEETINGS IS HOW MONEY IS SPENT IN COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOW SOME COMMUNITIES ARE FEELING LEFT OUT WHEN THERE'S DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I GUESS WE'LL LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO SPEND TIME WITH THAT TODAY.

BUT AND UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, IT WAS A CHEBEAGUE THE COMMUNITY.

MATTER OF FACT, I PULLED UP THAT MEETING AND LET THE COMMUNITY OF A GROUP OF US LOOK AT IT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS WITH PUBLIC WORKS, GETTING 400000 AND CHEBEAGUE FUNDS AND USING THOSE FUNDS TO BUY UP.

SO MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, AND ACCORDING TO THE PRESENTATION, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MITIGATE FLOODING.

AND SO THEY'RE USING THE FUNDS.

THEY GOT TO BUY UP A LOT OF THE PROPERTY IN THE DRISCOL HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.

SO PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED AND I THINK THEY'LL BE AT THE SECOND HEARING FOR CHEBEAGUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE THEIR BUDGET HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY TOLD THE COMMUNITY THEY WOULD DO, AND THAT'S PIPE REPLACEMENT, I SEE THAT HERE, BUT NOWHERE DID IT TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS OF PROPERTIES THEY WERE GOING TO BUY IN THE DRISCOL HATE AREA.

AND SO THAT WAS THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AS A CONCERN.

I DON'T THINK IT, YOU KNOW.

ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WOULD AFFECT THIS BUDGET.

I MEAN, IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT IT IS.

THE. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT, SO IT'S MORE ABOUT

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SO WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET, MAYBE BY THE NEXT TIME I GET HERE, WE'LL DISCUSS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I'LL SEE WHAT ELSE IS BEING SAID.

WE CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT.

ANYTHING ELSE I WAS JUST WANTING TO CLARIFY WHAT IS A CBG? THAT'S THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, TWENTY TWENTY TWO IS WITH THAT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND IN FUNDING THEY ACTUALLY GOT AWARDED FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE THOUSAND.

BUT THAT, YOU KNOW.

THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

AM I BEING MIXED UP? I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING, THOUGH.

NO PROBLEM. GO AHEAD, GO, IRVINE.

ALL RIGHT, I JUST GOING TO RUN DOWN THE LIST HERE OF.

IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

START OFF WITH A CYBER ATTACK AND BRING UP QUITE A BIT, THE FIRST ONE WAS IN NAPLES WHERE THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS HACKED AND IT HAD THE POSSIBILITY OF AFFECTING RESIDENTS BY POISONING THEM. SO I DID SEE THE CYBER LIABILITY HERE FOR A 100 PERCENT INCREASE FOR FROM 43 K TO 87 K..

I WOULD ADVISE COUNSEL AND CITY ATTORNEY TO PLEASE CONTINUE WITH THE CYBER LIABILITY INSURANCE PREMIUM AND NOT LET THEM LET THAT LAPSE.

GOING TO THE CITY CLERK'S, I KNOW SHE REQUESTED ONE FTE, A SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, DOES NEED SOME HELP IN THERE IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, HAS ONLY THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IN THEIR CAR WITH THAT.

OR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE BODY CAMERAS FIVE YEARS FROM ONE POINT, I THINK IS ONE POINT SIXTY THREE MILLION BODY CAMERAS ARE NEEDED.

IT'S WHERE WE ARE NOWADAYS, THE 12 POPPE AS WELL.

LET'S GET THESE GUYS THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED AND LET'S GET OUR CITY MORE POLICE OFFICERS AS WE ARE EXPANDING. LOOK AT FACILITIES, I KNOW THEY WANT TO DO SOME CITY HALL UPGRADES, I BELIEVE WAS A KILLER AND A GENERATOR, SAME WITH A SENIOR CENTER.

MY PERSONAL OPINION, I FEEL THAT THAT STUFF CAN WAIT AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FACILITIES AT THE PLUMBER, THE TWO VEHICLES AND THE TWO TRADE WORKERS, PERHAPS EVEN THOSE TWO TRADE WORKERS AND A PLUMBER WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST AND AND THOSE UPGRADES AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SAVE SOME MONEY THAT WERE OUT THAT WAY. PARKS AND RECREATION.

MR. POPPE SPOKE ABOUT THE CAPTAIN'S HOUSE.

I'VE LOST MY BOAT THERE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I WAS YOUNGER AND EVEN TODAY THAT THAT PLACE IS IS PRETTY OLD, PRETTY.

I MEAN, IT HAS MEMORIES.

I MEAN, IT IS NOSTALGIC FOR ME.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CAPTAIN'S HOUSE HERE IN FRONT OF IT.

YOU KNOW, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HAVING WEDDINGS.

THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE RIGHT ON TURKEY CREEK THERE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT RENOVATED AND ALSO WITH BALLFIELD MAINTENANCE, I MEAN, FORMER BASEBALL PLAYER MYSELF, PALM BAY E LITTLE LEAGUE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THE BALLFIELDS MAINTAINED.

ALSO FOR PERSONNEL, PARKS AND RECREATION REQUESTED ONCE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR, WHICH I THINK SHOULD HAPPEN, KNOW THE NEW BOARD MEMBER HERE.

AND OLSZEWSKI, OSSIETZKY, OSOFSKY, SHAMSKY.

I WAS AT A COUNCIL MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT AND HE CAME UP AND ABOUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION, HE'S LIKE, THERE'S NO ADULT LEAGUES HERE.

AND I'M LIKE, HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THERE IS NO ADULT LEAGUES HERE.

AND HIS YOUNGER PEOPLE MOVING IN.

KICK BALL AND SOFTBALL.

OK, THERE'S A SOCCER LEAGUE, OK, THIS IS AN AVID SOCCER AND THERE'S A BASEBALL.

THE IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THE EXACT AMOUNT OF MY COMMENTS WAS NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY THOSE EXACT SPORTS. SO AS A YOUNG MAN THAT GREW UP IN NEW YORK, I'M A HOCKEY GUY, PLAY HOCKEY.

WHAT I MENTIONED ALSO IS THAT WE HAVE A CRICKET FACILITY.

I'D LIKE TO MAYBE LOOK AT GETTING THE YOUTH INVOLVED IN CRICKET OR EVEN IF THE ADULTS WANT TO GET INTO CRICKET. BESIDES, IN THE BIKASH DISTINCTION, I THINK THE MR. FILBERTO POINT INCREASE IN THE DIVERSITY OF THE OFFERINGS BOTH TO THE ADULTS BUT NAMELY TO THE YOUTH WAS THE MAIN POINT OF MY COMMENT.

AND IF WE EXPAND TO THE YOUTH AND THE ADULTS, WELL, AND FILBERTO JUMPING.

YOU'RE RIGHT. I'LL TAKE THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING YOUR COMMENTS.

BUT YOUR COMMENT, YOUR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW.

IT RESONATED WITH ME, SO I THINK IT'S SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR CAN HELP WITH THAT STUFF GOING INTO IT. THIS IS HUGE FOR ME.

IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN WITH IT.

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ALL THAT STUFF NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW AFTER WHAT HAPPENED IN NAPLES AND THEN WITH THE COLONIAL PIPELINE, HIRE THE DBA, HIRE THE SECURITY ANALYST AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR TOWN IS FORTIFIED, SOFTWARE WISE AND EVEN FACILITY WISE.

AND I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH FOR GROWTH.

SPEAKING WITH SOME OF THE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND EVERYTHING THAT I FEEL OF A NEW VEHICLE, WHAT COULD BE COULD BE USED FOR GROWTH, ANOTHER FULL TIME EMPLOYEE TO HELP WITH PERMITTING, ET CETERA, AND ALSO THE INCREASE OF POSTAGE AND LEGAL NOTICES.

THE. UTILITIES UPGRADES IN NORTH REGIONAL WATER PLANT CAN'T GO WRONG THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH CYBERSECURITY ISSUES, PERHAPS FORTIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IT JUST AS OPTIONAL HERE FOR THE BOARD AS WOULD BE THE SANITARY SEWER LIGHTING PROGRAM.

I LOOKED INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT I FEEL COULD BE GOOD FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

IT IS EXPENSIVE, ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

BUT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, AT LEAST TO LOOK INTO FURTHER.

I'LL HAVE MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

AWESOME. I MEAN, WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS PRESENTING, I HAD SAID AT THAT TIME TO HER THAT THEY WEREN'T RESPONSIVE TO SOME EMAILS THAT HAD BEEN SENT TO THEM FOR REPORTS. AND I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT I WAS WRONG, THAT IT WAS IN OUR EMAIL.

AND I WANT TO SAY, YEAH, WE WERE WRONG ABOUT THAT.

AND SO WE WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR PROMPT RESPONSE TO OUR REQUESTS FOR REPORTS BECAUSE THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS THE NEXT DAY I JUST MISSED IT.

SO I WANTED TO PUBLICLY SAY, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT CLEAR.

IT HAPPENS. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLEARING THAT UP.

MOVE ON THEM. IN TRYING TO PRIORITIZE, THAT WAS A HARD JOB BECAUSE, JULIE, EVERYTHING'S IMPORTANT AND.

I TEND TO LOOK AT THINGS AS HOW DO WE FUND EVERYTHING RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, BE CREATIVE IN OUR. WAYS TO FUND IT RATHER THAN TRYING TO STRUGGLE WITH.

LEFT OUT OR WHAT? ANYWAYS, AS WAS PRIORITIZED, SO I'LL DO THAT, AND HOW I LOOKED AT IT IS I I LOOKED AT IT MORE IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZING DEPARTMENTS, NOT NECESSARILY FOR MONEY REQUEST, BUT MORE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN BRING IN TERMS OF CREATIVITY.

AND BECAUSE I THINK WHERE THE CREATIVITY IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHO CAN BE STRONGER IN THEIR MANAGEMENT STYLES, IN THEIR TREATMENT OF PERSONNEL DEPARTMENTS THAT BUILD TEAMS THAT WORK WITH SHARED JOB RESPONSIBILITIES THAT.

OUR RESILIENCE IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING AND QUICKLY HANDLING PROBLEMS AND CRISES, TEAMS AND DEPARTMENTS THAT CAN MOVE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS.

AS. ADDING A BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IS THERE'S ALWAYS THE UNEXPECTED AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TO LOOK AT MANAGEMENT STYLES WHO BUILD PARTNERSHIPS, COLLABORATIVE, COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT I RESPONDED TO WHEN I HEARD THE DEPARTMENT'S PRESENTATIONS.

AND I DO WANT TO SAY EVERY DEPARTMENT'S PRESENTATION WAS EXCELLENT.

EVERY DEPARTMENT IS IS NOTEWORTHY.

THE ONES THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN CHALLENGED TO SELECT THE I WOULD PRIORITIZE THE H.R.

DEPARTMENT PRIMARILY BECAUSE I SEE HER INITIATING THE THINGS SUCH AS JOB SHARING AND CROSS TRAINING, AND HER MANAGEMENT STYLE IS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO LIMITED FUNDING AND HOW SHE CAN WORK AND DO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO.

WHO WAS WITH STAFFING AND.

SO THAT WAS ONE, THE NEXT WAS THE POLICE, THE POLICE AND THE FIRE, OR REPRESENT 53 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET.

SO I THINK JUST BY THE NATURE THAT THEY ARE THE HIGHEST ALLOCATION IS THEY THEY NEED TO

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MY COMMENTS, THOUGH, ARE THAT WITH THE POLICE, I THINK THERE MAY BE THINGS IN THE BUDGET THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME IN, AND I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY OF I KNOW I ATTEND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND I'VE HEARD CHIEF MOYA TALK MORE ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION THAN I HAVE WITH ACTUAL SITUATIONS, THAT WHAT I THINK WOULD REQUIRE POLICE A POLICE ATTENTION AND POLICE EXPERTIZE. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK MAY BE IN THAT BUDGET.

AT THE CITY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY TO PERHAPS TAKE ON SOME OF THIS RESPONSIBILITY, SHARED COST, AS WELL AS SHARE TIME AND SHARED RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROBLEM SOLVING. EQUALLY WITH CHIEF MOYA WAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEF WHO IS VERY CREATIVE IN HER RESPONSE WITH THE GRANT WRITING AND THE RESPONSIVENESS AND AGAIN WORKING.

WITH HUGE DEMANDS AND SOMEHOW SEEMING TO RESPOND TO THAT, I THINK. THE OTHER PRIORITY IS THE BUILDING BUILDING, IT SPECIFICALLY IS BEING BUILT, SO I'M THOSE I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ANGELICA MAYBE THAT'LL BE ANSWERED AT A LATER TIME, BUT I'M GOING TO PRESUME THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S REQUESTS FOR FUNDING RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF IT IS WITH THE BUILDING E AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE A HOPEFULLY A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE.

WHY I'M PRIORITIZING THAT IS THAT I THINK THAT BUILDING IS VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF BEING A STATEMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS TO HOW WE ARE, IN TERMS OF HOW WE WANT OUR BUILDINGS TO BE, HOW WE WANT THE PEOPLE AND THE SERVICES THAT COME FORTH FROM THOSE BUILDINGS, CERTAINLY THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE TO THE THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY, THAT IT MIGHT EVEN BE A MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING AND IN MANY RESPECTS.

BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING I SEE FOR BUILDING E IS THAT THE CITY IS HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND DESIGNING AND HIRING DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS AND THEN LABORERS. AND I HOPE THEY'LL ALL BE LOCAL PEOPLE.

BUT ASIDE FROM THAT.

I THINK IT IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO SEE HOW DIFFICULT.

IT IS TO TAKE ON A CHALLENGE LIKE THIS IN TERMS OF THE TIME, THE MONEY AND THE CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING AND ALSO BALANCING THAT, I HOPE THIS BUILDING WILL BE ONE THAT WILL BE. AND SUSTAINABLE IN TERMS OF GREEN GREEN BUILDING REQUIREMENTS, IN TERMS OF USE OF SOLAR AND ALSO ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT, TO BE A REAL STANDARD SETTER.

OH, THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME, AND THE FINAL THING IS THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEPARTMENT, I THINK OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED THIS.

I THINK I SEE THEM AT THE REAL FOCAL POINT OF.

ING, ACTUALLY, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE VAN SCHURMAN IN THE.

BUSINESS MANAGER, THE THESE ARE WITH SUZANNE SHERMAN, SHE'S THE INTERNAL EBITA PIVOTAL PERSON THAT WAS FLOW THROUGH AT THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S THE HEARTBEAT.

IT'S THE ONE THAT CONNECTS THE CITY TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK IT IS AN EXCELLENT DEPARTMENT.

I THINK IT'S A NEWLY FORMED DEPARTMENT.

AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN EVERY CHANCE FOR THIS.

RANDY. LAST I KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE NEW AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE.

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AND ALSO TO MS. CLINKSCALES. YOU'RE A SENIOR MEMBER OF PERSON TO ME, SO THANKS FOR MAKING ME FEEL BETTER.

MR. CHAIR FOR MAKING US BOTH FEEL BETTER AS LONG AS WE'RE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.

SO MOST OF WHAT I WILL GO OVER I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE IS THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT OF KIND OF AS A CITIZEN.

AND WHAT PROMPTED ME TO, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT TO THIS BOARD THAT I DO WANT TO KIND OF HELP INFLUENCE.

SO I WILL KIND OF GO THROUGH HERE I GO IN ORDER OF TOP PRIORITY.

AND I WON'T BE SHY ABOUT SAYING MY TOP PRIORITY IS FUNDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WHAT THE POLICE DO FOR US EVERY DAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T MEASURE.

WE CAN'T SEE, WE CAN'T FEEL.

AND THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF IT.

THEY KEEP US SAFE WHILE WE SLEEP IN OUR BEDS AT NIGHT.

AND WHAT HAPPENED A FEW MONTHS AGO ON TWO CONSECUTIVE SUNDAYS AND WHAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DID TO SUPPORT US, OF COURSE, NOT GLAD IT HAPPENED, BUT THE THE ATTENTION THAT IT BROUGHT TO THE FACT THAT THOSE MEN AND WOMEN PROTECT US 24/7, 365, I DID FIND TO BE A BEAUTIFUL THING. SO I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED, MOST NOTABLY THESE BODY CAMERAS.

I THINK THAT IT'S OVERDUE FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE BODY CAMERAS FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS AND, OF COURSE, FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE CITIZENS THAT THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO WHAT WE ALL SEE EVERY DAY AS AS IT PERTAINS TO NEEDING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A THIRD PERSON THERE IN THE CONVERSATION AT ALL TIMES.

SO THOSE BODY CAMERAS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

IN ADDITION, THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES, I MEAN, WE SEE SOME OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE OUT ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE RELIABILITY AND, OF COURSE, THE COMFORT FOR THE OFFICERS, BUT JUST THE OVERALL CONTINUED EXPENSE, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, INTO OUR FLEET DEPARTMENT AND THE UPKEEP EXPENSES OF THOSE OUTDATED VEHICLES.

IT'S DEFINITELY TIME TO GET THEM SOME NEW VEHICLES.

AND AT THAT, SOME NEW OFFICERS, SOME REAR ENDS FOR THOSE SEATS, AS WE SAY IN MY BUSINESS, THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. SO DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THE FUNDING THAT WE NEED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT I CAN'T EVEN SAY SECOND, I HAVE TO SAY A ONE, B, A DEFINITELY A TOP PRIORITY IS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ABSOLUTELY. AND GETTING THEM EVERY BIT OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PROTECT US 24/7, 365 WHEN WE'RE REALLY UNAWARE OF IT.

THOSE MEN AND WOMEN ARE THERE FOR US IN OUR MOST DIRE MOMENT OF NEED AT THE DROP OF A HAT. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERY RESOURCE THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY GIVE THEM. SO, YEAH, THE LIST ON HERE SEEMS, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY HUMBLE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. I DID WANT TO FURTHER INQUIRE, IS THIS FIRE STATION SIX, THE THE PALM BAY ROAD REPLACEMENT STATION? I THOUGHT THAT WAS SEVEN.

A. OK, RIGHT, RIGHT, THAT'S THE TENT NEXT TO BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT? YEAH, OK, SO SIX SIX IS ON AND ON.

SIX IS SHORT TERM, SEVEN LONG TERM MAKES SENSE.

NUMERICAL ORDER. GOOD.

WELL, YEAH. INTO INTO MS. BEAUCHAMP PREVIOUS POINT DEFINITELY OUT IN THE BAYSIDE AREA.

DO WE NEED IT. IRONICALLY WE NEEDED IT YEARS AGO AND ALL THESE LOTS WERE EMPTY AND WHEN ONE WOULD GO ON FIRE THEY WOULD JUMP, JUMP, JUMP.

NOW WE'RE LOOSENING THE DENSITY OF THE BRUSH, THANKFULLY, BUT CERTAINLY WHEN WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, IT'S EVEN MORE URGENT TO GET THE FIRE OUT OF THAT THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL IMMEDIATELY.

SO DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEN GETTING THEIR FUNDING.

I DO HAVE IN IN THIRD PLACE, IF YOU WILL, THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT KIND OF WHAT THAT DEPARTMENT'S DONE IN RECENT TIMES.

YOU KNOW, THE HOW DO I SAY THE INFLUX OF AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND OF AVAILABLE CASH TO US IS SOMETHING UNPRECEDENTED.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS IN AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF I CALL IT MY GENERATION AS FAR AS THESE PROGRAMS ARE COMING OUT OF A NATIONAL AND THEN THEREFORE STATE LEVEL.

AND ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE GOING TO GET AS MUCH JUICE OUT OF THAT LEMON AS YOU HAVE PEOPLE TO SQUEEZE THAT LEMON. SO THE MORE ROBUST THIS TEAM IS AND THE MORE SPECIALIZED THIS TEAM IS IN LOOKING INTO OBTAINING GRANT MONEY AND THEN, OF COURSE, DISPERSING IT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY IN THE MOST, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVE WAY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME.

SO I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DEPARTMENT GETS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HELP THEY NEED SO THAT WE CAN SECURE OUR MORE THAN OUR FAIR SHARE.

IF I IF I'LL BE FRANK OF THE GRANT MONEY AS IT COMES IN AND THEN DEFINITELY MAKING SURE WE'RE DISBURSING IT TO THE TO THE APPROPRIATE AREAS.

AND I HATE TO COPY PASTE, BUT AGAIN, MS. MS. CLINKSCALES. I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT PARTICULAR GETTING INTO SOME OF OUR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IN OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THEY ARE THE FIRST THING YOU SEE A PALM BAY YOU COME OFF A U.S.

ONE. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE ORIGINAL PALM BAY AND THAT'S THE REPRESENTATION.

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SO WE NEED TO MAKE IT PRESENTABLE FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT SO THAT PEOPLE WILL LOOK TOWARDS OUR OTHER SECTORS.

NEXT UP, I DID HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION, AND I CAN'T I JUST HAVE TO TAKE THE CHANCE TO APOLOGIZE. MR. JANAE MR. FILBERTO IN MS. BEAUCHAMP SORRY FOR JUMPING IN.

I JUST GET REALLY EXCITED.

I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

AND I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.

ONE, I LIKE TO GET OUTSIDE AND PLAY.

I HAVE A FIVE AND A HALF YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, WHICH I'M IN THE PROCESS OF THE TRIAL AND ERROR ON ACTIVITIES WITH HER.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU TRY GYMNASTICS, YOU TRY TO DANCE, YOU TRY THIS, YOU TRY THAT, YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT STICKS AND WHAT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT I HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE THAT EVEN IF IT IS LEAVING THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I CAN TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO TO TRY DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY CITIZEN THAT'S RAISING A CHILD IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS THE ABILITY TO GET THEIR CHILD INTO SOME PROGRAMS AND GET THEM OUT OF THE HOUSE AND GET THEM AWAY FROM THOSE DARN SCREENS AND FIND THEIR PASSION.

AND EVEN IF THEIR PASSION ISN'T IN SPORTS IN PARTICULAR OR ORGANIZED LEAGUES, SOME FORM OF RECREATION, EVERY EVERY FLORIDA FLORIDIAN CHILD DESERVES TO FIND A CERTAIN WAY TO ENJOY THE FLORIDA OUTDOORS.

AND I THINK THE MORE THAT WE CAN INCREASE OUR ACCESS TO PROGRAMS LIKE THAT THROUGH DIVERSITY OF PROGRAMS, IT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP THOSE YOUTH GROW UP INTO, YOU KNOW, PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, PRODUCTIVE MEN AND WOMEN.

YOU KNOW, JUST TO SHARE MY STORY, WHEN I MOVED TO PALM BAY, IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE I STARTED HIGH SCHOOL AND WELL, PALM BAY HIGH GRADUATE, WHICH I KNOW A COUPLE HERE, BACI, AND THAT'S OK. WE CAN BE FRIENDS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I WANTED TO DO.

AND IN SHORT ORDER, I HEARD ABOUT THE WRESTLING TEAM AND I WAS LIKE, OK.

AND I WENT TO THE WRESTLING COACH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

AND I ENDED UP ON THE WRESTLING TEAM AND I DID THAT THROUGH MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS.

AND FRANKLY, I WASN'T GOOD AT IT.

BUT THE THE BROTHERHOOD THAT I GAINED IN THE CAMARADERIE THAT I GAINED AND THE TEAMWORK ASPECTS THAT I GAINED, I LEVERAGE THOSE IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND MY WRESTLING COACH WAS A VERY INFLUENTIAL PERSON IN MY LIFE.

AND I'M GOING TO REMEMBER THAT FOREVER.

AND I WANT EVERY YOUTH IN OUR CITY TO HAVE THAT SENSATION, TO HAVE THAT FEELING OF OF BEING PART OF SOMETHING BIGGER THAN THEMSELVES, SO THAT WHEN THEY DO GET INTO THOSE LATTER TEEN YEARS AND UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN IN THE EARLIER TEEN YEARS THERE, PRESENTED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE WRONG THING, THAT IN THE BACK OF THEIR HEAD THEY HAVE SOMEBODY TO ANSWER TO IF THEY DO THAT WRONG THING.

AND IT'S NOT JUST MOM AND DAD OR GRANDMA.

IT'S SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE FAMILY THAT THEY'VE LEARNED TO GROW, TO RESPECT AND TO LOOK UP TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO MENTALLY CHECK THEMSELVES AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T DO THE WRONG THING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO ANSWER TO COACH, IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES.

THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. BUT I WANT TO INCREASE THE ACCESS TO OUR YOUTH.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR PARKS AND RECREATION OR WHAT IT WILL BE BY THE TIME WE PUBLISH THIS BUDGET RECREATION SPECIFICALLY, WE NEED TO DO THESE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES THAT ARE LISTED HERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO TURN OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT INTO A REVENUE GENERATOR IN VOLUME.

I DON'T WANT TO OVERCHARGE OUR RESIDENTS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WOULD BE MY PROPOSITION THAT FOR SPORTS LEAGUES, OUR RESIDENTS GET A CERTAIN RATE AND THAT WE CERTAINLY TRY TO ATTRACT RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER RATE.

LET'S GIVE A DISCOUNT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

I'VE SEEN IT DONE BEFORE, BUT I WANT OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO BRING IN MONEY.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE CAPTAIN'S HOUSE OR THE LAGOON HOUSE, YEAH, LET'S LET'S MAKE A FACILITY THAT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, HOSTING A WEDDING AT OR VOW RENEWAL OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

I ACTUALLY, IN MY YOUNGER YEARS WENT TO A SWEET SIXTEEN AT THE CAPTAIN'S HOUSE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR FACILITIES IN ORDER SO THAT THERE'S SOMETHING PRESENTABLE SO THAT THIS SPECIAL EVENT COORDINATOR THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING ON HAS SOMETHING TO SELL TO NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, BUT THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORING CITIES.

WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THE DIVERSITY OF OF WHETHER IT'S THE RIVER TO OUR EAST SIDE OR, YOU KNOW, OUT TO OUR WEST SIDE HAVING FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK, THAT IS AN ASSET.

AND ANY MOMENT THAT THOSE FIELDS SIT IDLE AND AREN'T BEING USED BY OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, GREAT. WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, GENERATING ANY DIRECT REVENUE.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT THERE.

BUT TO OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, VENDORS, IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE I HAVE FRIENDS THAT PLAY SOFTBALL IN ADULT LEAGUES AND ALL THEIR TOURNAMENTS ARE AT THE FIELDS UP IN THE AIR.

YOU KNOW, FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK IS A HUGE FACILITY.

WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE ITS ACCESS BY GETTING A DIRECT LINK OFF OF ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN THIS BUDGET.

THE MORE WE CAN DO TO MAKE OUR RECREATION FACILITIES PRESENTABLE AND SALABLE, I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING WE'RE DOING OUR OUR DUE JUSTICE FOR THE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO RECYCLE THAT INTO A WAY TO INCREASE ACCESS TO THE KIDS THAT LIVE HERE. AGAIN, FORGIVE ME FOR MY PASSION ON RECREATION, BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME AND, YOU KNOW, HOLDING MYSELF TO FIVE.

OF COURSE, ALL OF THESE ARE A PRIORITY TO ME.

BUT I DEFINITELY HAVE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AS MY KIND OF FIFTH PLACE HERE.

WHAT WE SEE GOING ON WITH WITH WITH HACKS AND INFILTRATIONS OF MUNICIPAL SYSTEMS.

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IF YOU LOOK AT THEY'RE COMING OUT TO SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES ONCE THEY SEE HOW BIG WE ARE AND HOW MANY. ASSETS WE HAVE THAT WE'RE MOVING, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TANTALIZING TO THEM, SO WE NEED TO LOCK IT UP, WE NEED TO LOCK IT DOWN.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT IT DIRECTOR THROUGH SOME RECENT ORDINANCE CHANGES AND SO ON.

HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND HIS DEPARTMENT.

AND SOME OF THE FUNDING HERE WILL HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT THAT EXPAND THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO DO.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT ALL OF OUR CITY STAFF USES AND INTERACTS WITH, WE NEED TO BE TOP OF THE LINE AND WE NEED TO BE MODERN.

YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SOME CHANGES HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED, WHETHER IT'S BUILDING OR GROWTH MANAGEMENT OR THINGS OF THE SORT THAT ARE GREAT.

AND THE BUILDERS THAT ARE DEVELOPING HERE IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A CHANGE EXPERIENCE NOW. AND THAT'S ALL IN SPITE OF, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY ANTIQUATED TECHNOLOGIES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO IF WE GET INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY TAKEN CARE OF AS WE SIT HERE TALKING ABOUT THE YEAR 2022, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ME.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY SUMMARY OF THE FIVE.

YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE BOARD'S INPUT AND MR. CHAIR. I APPRECIATE YOUR IDEA FOR NEXT MEETING.

I WAS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT WITHIN ALL OF OUR PERSONAL OPINIONS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMPILE THAT, YOU KNOW, RANK IT, SCORE WHATEVER.

BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DIALOG AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING WITH ME AND MR. CHAIR FOR THE RECOGNITION. THANK YOU.

AWESOME. YOU'RE THE FIRST TO SAY, I GUESS YOU SHOWED UP WITH A BANG, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SAYING THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY'S PASSION RIGHT NOW.

I CAN I CAN HEAR IT AND HEAR HEAR EVERYBODY.

AND YOU GUYS DEFINITELY TOOK WHAT I ASKED THE HEART AND DID THAT.

I SHARE WITH YOU MINE AS ULTIMATELY THE VAST MAJORITY OF MIND YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY COMMENTED ON. THIS WAS HONESTLY MY HOPEFUL INTENT, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS WEREN'T.

THAT'S OK. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SHARING OUR OPINIONS HERE. I'M GOING TO START OFF BY SAYING I CAME UP WITH MY LIST.

TRYING TO THINK OF THINGS THAT IF THIS WAS DONE, IT COULD HELP SOLVE OTHER.

NOT JUST WHAT MIGHT BE THE BEST ULTIMATE THING, BUT WHAT CAN WE GET THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK IF SOMETHING WAS TAKEN? SO THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT.

I ALSO REMIND, ACCORDING TO OUR CHARTER, WE DO HAVE A BIG THREE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND THEN INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE ULTIMATELY DEFINITELY CHARGED WITH MAINTAINING FOR OUR CITIZENS.

SO, YES, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH THE SENTIMENT OF SEVERAL OF YOU GUYS WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE 100 PERCENT, LET ME BACK UP.

I'M SORRY. ONE MORE THING.

I DID WANT TO NOTE, OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, AT LEAST SIX DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUESTING NEW VEHICLE. THIS HAS BEEN A SAD FACT, I KNOW FOR ALL THE YEARS I'VE SAT ON THIS BOARD THAT OUR FLEET IS PAST LIFE EXPECTANCY ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DEPARTMENT THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.

NO. IF A DEPARTMENT NEED VEHICLES WITHOUT THAT VEHICLE, CAN THEY DO THEIR JOB, AS MY QUESTION OFTENTIMES? NO, THEY CAN'T GET AND GET TO THE NEXT STOP.

IT CAN'T PROVIDE THAT SERVICE THAT THEY'RE HIRED TO DO OR THAT SERVICE NOW BECOMES IT AT AN INCREDIBLE COST DUE TO MAINTENANCE OF THAT VEHICLE.

SO IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT FOR ME.

WHEN I GO BACK TO THAT STATEMENT BEFORE I MADE A LOT OF THE ITEMS I LOOK TO PRIORITIZE WOULD HELP ACCOMPLISH OTHER THINGS, NOT BEING.

AND THAT'S THE WAY I LOOKED AT THIS, AND SO, AGAIN, I REITERATE POLICE, FIRE DEFINITELY HIGH ON MY LIST, SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED.

I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON THE ONES THAT HADN'T BEEN MENTIONED, EVEN THOUGH YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING, TOUCH ON THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, SOFTWARE. THIS IS GOING TO MAKE SOMETHING STREAMLINED WHERE EMPLOYEES NOW HAVE MORE.

I'M TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT.

HAVING THAT SOFTWARE IN PLACE IS GOING TO MAKE THINGS A LOT MORE STREAMLINED.

AND THIS COULD BE PROVED TO BE BENEFICIAL AS ALLOWING EMPLOYEES TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND ACCOMPLISH MORE TASK.

GET BACK TO MY STATEMENT, IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE, THEN SOLVES EVENTUALLY SOME OF ANOTHER. SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON OUR LIST EACH YEAR SINCE BEING ON THIS BOARD.

ALL RIGHT, CHECKING THIS MOUNTAIN DEW UP HERE, THE CLASSIFICATION COMPENSATION STUDY ARE.

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I BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN WITH OTHERS BEFORE, THEY DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SHOW POTENTIALLY SOME SHORTFALLS.

EVENTUALLY, SOME THINGS OF HOW OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE IS POTENTIALLY OFF.

WELL, I THINK IN YEARS PAST, WE'VE DISCUSSED HOW IT COULD SHOW HOW MODELS HAVE WORKED.

DIFFERENT CITIES OF LIKE CITIES.

SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MODEL TO DEFEND ULTIMATELY, THAT WE'VE CHECKED INTO THIS, WE'VE LOOKED INTO THIS, AND WE'RE DOING WHAT? WE ARE STAFFING THE RIGHT AREAS, WE ARE DOING THIS NOW, WELL, WE CAN SAY.

HERSELF MAKING THE DECISION, I CAN SAY I'VE SPOKEN WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE ASK, WELL, WHY IS THIS PERSON THERE? WHY IS THAT THERE? WHY WAS THIS PROMOTION THEN? WELL, WE'VE CHECKED INTO THIS.

WE'VE HAD THAT COMPARISON.

HE FOLLOWED THAT GUIDELINE OF WHAT'S WORKED BEFORE, AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING AGAIN, I DO PUT IT AS A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT WOULD.

SO I HAVE A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS OF.

I DO WE LOSE PERSONNEL, I KNOW IN YEARS PAST, MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS HAVE COMPLAINED OF TURNOVER. LEAVING PALM BAY TO GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE SAME APARTMENT.

THIS COULD ANSWER POTENTIALLY SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

KEEP THOSE THINGS HERE, KEEP THOSE PERSONNEL HERE OUTSIDE OF THAT.

AGAIN, I MENTIONED ABOARD BEFORE THE FLEET BECAUSE ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT'S HUGE FOR ME. DEFINITELY HUGE FOR ME.

POLICE AND FIRE.

AS A PERSON IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS RIGHT NOW WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION BURSTING AT THE SEAMS OF.

INCREASING OUR PERMANENT RESIDENT.

IT'S. VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT I SEE WHEN I AM WORKING WITH A NEW BUYER IS PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT HOMESTEADED AND.

YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO BE AS SIMPLE AS I CAN FOR THEIR HOME STATE.

IF IT'S NOT A PERMANENT RESIDENT, MORE THAN LIKELY IT WAS A HOME THAT WAS A RENTAL HOME PRIOR. THEY'RE BUYING IT AT A HIGHER TAX RATE UNTIL THEY CAN GET TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO GET IT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS ON IT.

SO, SO MANY OF OUR HOMES ARE THAT CATEGORY WHERE THEY'RE HAVING TO BUY IN AT A HIGHER TAX RATE, AND THAT'S FINE BEFORE THEY GET THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M FOCUSING ON.

OK, SO WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE PERMANENT RESIDENTS AARON PALM BAY BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE RESIDENTS HERE AND WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO SERVE THEM FOR THE LONGEVITY.

FOR YEARS. WE'VE HAD A SITUATION WHERE.

I FEEL WE'RE IN SHORTFALL IN MULTIPLE.

WE HAVE YET TO RECOVER.

FROM THE 07, 08, 09.

THAT'S WHERE. I STRUGGLE AND I KNOW I WAS BEING KIND OF JOVIAL PRIOR TO THE MEETING WITH ANGELICA TALKING ABOUT THE IDEA, AND I'M USING THIS AS A SEGWAY TO JUST A CONVERSATION WITH YOU GUYS. AT THIS FAMOUS ENTITY CALLED A THREE PERCENT CAP.

I KNOW AT THE MEETING I ATTENDED THE OTHER DAY, WHICH THEY WERE A COUPLE OF YOU MIGHT AS WELL LISTEN TO OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR CITY OF PALM BAY.

A FEW OF THEM BASHED THE IDEA OF A THREE PERCENT CAP.

AND I HAD TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT AND JUST LET OBVIOUSLY LET THEM SAY WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY, I MEAN. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HANDCUFFED IT RESTRICTS OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AS OUR CITY, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS 100 PERCENT MY OPINION AND I WILL LAST FOUR YEARS IN A MOMENT. WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE SERVICE.

AS OUR CITY GROWS AT A RATE THAT'S PAST THE THREE PERCENT GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT, I FIND THAT IT TROUBLES ME.

I KNOW THE INTENTION OF IT WAS INCREDIBLE INTENTION OF IT TO KEEP THINGS IN A CONTROLLED PATTERN. I RESPECT THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING IS WHEN WE COME TO RECOMMEND RECOMMENDING TO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IS HOW TO APPROACH THAT CAP, WHETHER WE RECOMMEND STAYING WITH THREE PERCENT CAP, WHETHER WE RECOMMEND A ROLLBACK RATE.

WHICH WOULD BE CREATING THE EXACT SAME REVENUE OF THE CITY.

WITH INCREASED REVENUE POTENTIAL THERE, SO PULLS IT EVEN LOWER OR THE THREE PERCENT CAP OR AS IT'S REFERRED TO BUSTING AND WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.

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LAST THING I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY HOPE THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, RICK, BECAUSE I DO WANT SOME INPUT FROM YOU GUYS ON THAT JUST SO WE CAN HAVE SOME THOUGHTS FROM EACH OTHER AS WE GO ON OUR WAYS TO COME BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO REALLY PUT SOME STUFF TOGETHER. BUT THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, WE HAVE DEBATED ALL THESE THINGS TO BE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE BUDGET.

THERE'S SOMETHING EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THIS BOARD THAT SET HERE IN THESE CHAIRS PRIOR HAS SAID IS ROAD MAINTENANCE.

SOMETHING THAT GOT US TO A POINT.

BECAUSE OF ITS LACKING, WE HAD TO TAKE THIS HUMONGOUS HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR BOND OUT AND THE CITIZENS VOTED ON.

YES, THEY DID. WE WANTED TO TAX OURSELVES AND IN EXCESS OF OUR MILITARY.

TO GET NEW ROADS OR UPDATE ROADS, WHATEVER THE COUNTY, HOWEVER, WE WANT TO SAY IT.

WITHOUT MAINTENANCE IN PLACE, WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE WERE.

CERTAIN POINT, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO IF WE DON'T GENERATE.

ANNUAL RECURRING VALUE IN A MAINTENANCE PLAN.

GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE AT SOME POINT, IT'S INEVITABLE.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A TASK THAT, YOU KNOW, SAY WE HAVE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS.

WELL, HOW MUCH DO WE AUTOMATICALLY COMMIT OF ANNUAL VALUE TO ROAD MAINTENANCE? WE HERE'S PAST WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVERY YEAR WE GOT TO COMMIT ONE POINT FIVE MILLION OR FIVE YEARS BECAUSE IT WAS ESTIMATED ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IS WHAT WE NEED WHEN THE JOB'S DONE TO MAINTAIN EVERY YEAR.

I'LL TELL YOU ONE POINT FIVE MILLION, THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD PRETTY MUCH ALL THE MAXIMUM NEW MONIES WOULD BE.

THERE'S THE CONUNDRUM WE FACE.

YOU KNOW, ON THIS BOARD. AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER YET, I'M JUST SAYING, BASED ON YEARS PAST HAS BEEN BETWEEN ONE POINT THREE AND ONE POINT SEVEN EACH YEAR OF NEW FUNDS. SO IF WE SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE TAKING ONE POINT FIVE, PUT IT ROAD MAINTENANCE.

I MEAN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE GOT TO SAY, AT WHAT POINT DO WE SAY THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY VERSUS THESE OTHER ITEMS, WHICH I'VE HEARD YOU ALL AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. THESE ARE THINGS THAT SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO MAKE THAT HARD DECISION.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TASKED AS THIS GROUP OF CITIZENS.

TRY AND GIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR VIEWPOINT AS CITIZENS.

I GUESS NOW I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS I'VE SAID ON NFR, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY INPUT REGARDING WHAT OUR PEERS HAVE SET UP HERE TO ENTERTAIN SOME COMMENTS, THEN I'LL SHUT THEM.

HOWEVER, YOU GUYS WISH TO DO THIS.

GO AHEAD, GO. LISTEN, YEAH, THERE WE GO, SERTOMA.

WE CAN BE FAIR, YEAH, WE START HERE, I'M A LITTLE GASSED.

I MEAN, I JUST SAID A LOT, SO I REALLY LIKE THE DEFENSIVE.

I LAID IT ALL OUT THERE, MAN.

UNDERSTANDABLE. UNDERSTANDABLE.

I'M BEGINNING TO THINK MAYBE OUR.

GREATEST IMPACT CAN BE WHAT YOU HAVE SAID, CHAIRMAN PARR.

IS ABOUT LOOKING AT THE CHOICE OF THE THREE PERCENT.

OR CAP THE ROLLBACK OR BUSTING THE CAP.

I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ELEMENT HERE, TOO, AND THAT IS HOW THE FAIR MARKET VALUE, THE BEGINNING FIGURE THAT ANGELICA GETS THE THREE PERCENT ROLLS THROUGH.

I THINK IT'S A BIG MYSTERY TO ME.

I HAVEN'T HEARD YET HOW THAT FAIR MARKET VALUE IS DETERMINED ON THE PROPERTIES.

I KNOW A LITTLE BIT BEING A HOMEOWNER.

I KNOW THE FAIR MARKET VALUE COMES WHEN YOU PURCHASED THE PROPERTY MORE THAN VALUING IT AS IT GROWS IN.

VALUE, SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME MR. SYSTEM THINGS THAT PROHIBIT.

US. AND THIS COMMUNITY FROM HAVING A BUDGET.

THAT IS EVEN NEAR BEGINNING TO ADDRESS THE GROWTH NEEDS AND WHAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT,

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THE STATUS QUO, MUCH LESS HAVING ANYTHING FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING AND CERTAINLY NOT PLANNING OR VISIONING FUTURE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING INNOVATIVE.

SO I THINK THAT AREA MIGHT BE WHAT WE AS A GROUP CAN LOOK AT, THE SECOND AREA, I THINK WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT HAS TO DO WITH IT, MADE GREAT SENSE ABOUT THE ROADS AND MAINTAINING THEM.

AND I THINK.

AGAIN, WE'RE SO LIMITED IN IN NEW FUNDS AND AND AND WHAT WE CAN COUNT ON, WHAT WE KNOW WE CAN COUNT ON. I THINK.

WE HAVE TO GET CREATIVE IN FINANCING, WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE THE CITY BUDGET, WE HAVE TO START FORMING PRIVATE.

PARTNERSHIPS. PRIVATE FUNDING INVESTORS, WE NEED TO ATTRACT THESE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUR GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY FINANCIALLY WITH PROGRAMS AND AND JOBS THAT THERE HAS TO BE.

WE ALREADY HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS DOING GRANTS.

AND THAT IS ONE ASPECT.

AND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS REALLY GETTING INVOLVEMENT.

FINANCIALLY WITH INVESTORS.

AND THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA, BY THE WAY, OTHER COMMUNITIES, OTHER GOVERNMENTS HAVE PROGRAMS. DELOITTE IS A BIG COMPANY THAT FUNDS MANY, MANY PROJECTS, GOVERNMENT PROJECTS.

AND SO THOSE TWO THINGS, I THINK WE CAN BE A LEADING VOICE IN GETTING PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL, TO START DEALING WITH THE HARD ISSUE OF.

WE NEED A CHANGE HERE.

CHAIR, THANK YOU. UM.

REGARDING THREE PERCENT CAP.

A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION.

I'M NOT SAYING I LIKE IT, I MUST SAY I DON'T LIKE IT, I DO I DO KNOW IT CAN BE A HINDRANCE. GUARDING THE ROADS, THOUGH, I THINK RIGHT NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME, BUT.

SOMETHING TO ADD MONEY TO THE IMF, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE THE BOND COMING OUT NOW AND MONEY COULD JUST BE SITTING ON IMF INTEREST OR.

YOU KNOW. INCREASING IN MONEY TO THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND BY THE TIME OUR ROADS ARE TO BE FIXED, A SECTION AT TIME WOULD HAVE YOU HAVE THE MONEY THERE OR THE ARMY SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN ABOUT. AND AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, IN THE END, WITH A THREE PERCENT CAP, YOU SEE AN ENTRANCE TO THIS BOARD, TO THE COUNCIL AND TO IT TO OUR CITY.

BUT IT'S THERE AND AND DO OUR BEST TO TRY AND WORK WITH IT.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT SUPERMAJORITY OR.

FOUR OR FIVE. SO MY THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, I WILL QUICKLY ADD I DO APOLOGIZE FOR SPRINGING THAT TOPIC ON YOU, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IT'S IN THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT AS FAR AS WHAT CAN BE DONE, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY'RE GOING TO DECIDE WHICH ROUTE IT GOES AND THEN ULTIMATELY STAFF WILL MAKE.

RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS HOW TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS BASED UPON THAT STATE BAD DECISION? YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S THERE IN THE SUPERMAJORITY IS FOUR TO FIVE.

LET'S VOTE FOR THAT. LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS THAT IT DID HAPPEN AND NOW WE'RE ON TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF STAYING WITH THE CAP.

OUR LAST FOUR YEARS, OUR BUDGETS GONE.

JUST KEEPING THAT AND JUST IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.

I'M ON.

YOU SPOKE ABOUT H.R.

FIRS AND THIS CLASSIFICATION COMPENSATION STUDY, AND YOU SAID IT'S BEEN ON THE I GUESS, COMING UP AS A BUDGET ITEM FOR H.R.

FOR A WHILE AND IT HASN'T BEEN FUNDED.

SO DO YOU KNOW WHY? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PUSHBACK TO THINGS THAT IT ISN'T?

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NECESSARY TO BE DONE. IT'S A LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THE HIERARCHY OF EACH DEPARTMENT, HOW IT RELATES TO A CITY OF LIKE SIZE, MY UNDERSTANDING HIERARCHY, THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS OF EACH DEPARTMENT, THE SALARIES OF EACH POSITION.

I CAN TELL YOU IT'S BEEN EXPRESSED TO ME BY PREVIOUS AND CURRENT COUNCILMAN.

THERE IS AN ASPECT OF NERVOUSNESS TO IT.

BECAUSE IT COULD SHOW WELL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE DISCUSSED THIS, IT WAS AROUND FORTY TO FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

DOES THAT SOUND ACCURATE AS AN ESTIMATION? IT'S I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 TO 50.

I MEAN, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, WE CAN DEBATE THAT ALL DAY AS FAR AS THE COST, BUT WHAT IT COULD COST.

THIS IS PART OF THE NERVOUSNESS OF IT, IS IT COULD SHOW SOME DRASTIC SHORTFALL OF SOME OF OUR STAFF IN THE CITY DEPARTMENT.

WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING, WHERE THEY SHOULD BE POSITIONED BASED UPON SIMILAR LIKE SIZE.

AND TO QUOTE ONE STATEMENT, I'VE BEEN TOLD, IT WOULD BASICALLY CREATE A BUNCH OF COMPLAINING OF NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT.

OH, THERE'S THERE IS SOME NERVOUSNESS, ANXIETY ABOUT GOING FORWARD WITH IT.

I THINK IN A WAY, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING EDUCATION.

WE NEED TO LEARN SO THEN WE CAN START CORRECTING, IT WON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT AND I THINK.

IF I DOING IT, I THINK PERSONALLY NOW THIS IS MY OWN HUMBLE OPINION, I DOING IT DEMONSTRATES WE WANT TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT IF IT'S NOT.

AND THEN WE CAN START TAKING STEPS ACCORDINGLY, BUT I JUST CONTINUING TO DEFER TO LATER MOMENT. OH, NO, THAT'S MY RESPONSE TO THAT.

AND WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE THREE PER CENT CAP, I REALLY WANT TO STUDY THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING AND IT PROBABLY WOULD BE EITHER RESPONSE WITH THE CLASSIFICATION COMPENSATION STUDY AS WELL, BUT IS A TIME AND A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING. AND WE ARE JUST COMING OUT OF OF COVID CRISIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK HIT HITTING RESIDENTS WITH MORE TAXES OR, YOU KNOW, INCREASES.

I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BEING TAXED ANYMORE.

I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND FIGURE OUT, JUST LIKE YOU JUST SAID, WHAT WHAT WHAT IS NOT A PRIORITY, WHAT CAN WAIT INSTEAD OF HITTING PEOPLE WITH NEW TAXES AT THIS TIME. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND THE NEED FOR MORE SERVICES. AND I GUESS WHAT INTERESTS ME IS WHEN A NEW CONSTRUCTION IS DONE OF A HOME OR ANYTHING, HOW MUCH I MEAN, WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT ON SERVICES? I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO PUT IN SOME KIND OF FEES OR SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE THE EXPANSION OF SERVICES THAT ARE REQUIRED WHEN YOU GET A NEW HOMEOWNER OR A NEW RESIDENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO, I MEAN, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, TAXING PEOPLE MORE JUST TO FUND THE EXPANSION. OF THE CITY IS THE PLACE THAT I COULD ANSWER THAT BRIEFLY AND I MEAN AND I ONLY SAY THIS BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THIS, THERE IS THERE ARE IMPACT POLICE, FIRE, PARKS AND REC. THAT IS IMPACT ON FEES.

IT'S NOT RECURRING, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SERVICES, IT'S GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE OF THAT NEW HOME, BEING IN THE AREA DOESN'T CARRY ON THE ONGOING SERVICE. THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ONGOING SERVICE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE TAXES COME INTO PLAY THAT THEY PAY ANNUALLY TO PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES.

EMPATHY IS A ONE AND DONE.

THEN AS SALARIES THE OF THE NEW PERSONNEL, THE BUILDING OF THE NEW FACILITIES HAS TO COME OUT OF SOME. AND THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, WE'RE CHARGED WITH MAKING THESE.

OH, THANK YOU FOR THE BOOKLET THAT THEY GAVE ME THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT REGARDING THE IMPACT. YES, IT ALSO GOES BY ZIP CODE.

SO LIKE, SAY, THREE TO NINE OR FIVE, WHICH IS ALMOST LET'S CALL IT.

YEAH, IT'S CALLED 90 PERCENT BUILT OUT OR IT'S ALL BUILT OUT.

IMPACT FEE FROM DIFFERENT ZIP CODE IS NOT GOING TO WORK IN THREE TO FIVE IN THE LAST STATE AND ALL IN THE SAME ZIP CODE JUST SO.

OH. WELL, THANK YOU.

UM. THE ONE THING IN REGARDS TO BUSSES IN THE CAPITAL AND.

AND THE REASON I'M FOR IT IS BECAUSE THIS CAT HAD BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 2016.

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BE PREPARED FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN AND FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN AND NOT HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL, NOT HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR OUR CITY TO GROW AS FAST AS IT IS. SHOULDN'T THE.

AND WHEN IT CAME TO LIKE THE HRR, THE FACT IS THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY KNEW AND I'M LIKE MY KIDS, YOU JUST GOT TO SNATCH THAT MANDATE.

GOT TO BE PREPARED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW.

BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE IN POSITIONS THAT WAS NEVER REALLY QUALIFIED TO WORK THOSE POSITIONS AND THEY WERE GETTING SALARY TO DO NOTHING.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW, IS THAT THEY GOT PEOPLE MAKING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. IT SHOULDN'T REALLY BE MAKING THOSE DOLLARS.

AND FOR ME, FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE.

YOU PROBABLY GOING TO SAVE. AS YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SEE THAT LIGHT FOR HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT, THEY NEEDED AN EXTRA PERSON FOR IT.

WE GOT ALL THAT MONEY TO WANT TO CORRECT AND WE NEVER GAVE OUT WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE GAVE OUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL.

AND THAT'S NOT GOOD. WHEN YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY SERVANT, YOU KNOW, SUFFERING DURING A PANDEMIC AND THEY CAN'T GET THE SERVICES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM FOR THEM.

WELL, I LOOKED AT THE THE BUDGET AND IN TWENTY TWENTY THEY HAD SOME OF MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAD REVENUE STILL LEFT OVER THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN SPEND OR NOT SPEND.

JUST LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE TOLD NOT TO SPEND THEM AS WELL.

IT WASN'T THERE. BUT WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET, THEY WERE TOLD NOT TO SPEND MONEY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING TO END UP.

THEY HAD A LOT OF MONEY LEFT OVER BECAUSE THEY PRETTY MUCH HAD THEIR HANDS.

CAME TO. FOR US THIS YEAR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, THEY'RE ASKING FOR STUFF THAT.

WAS BACK IN TWENTY NINETEEN, THEY ASKED FOR A LOT OF STUFF WHEN 20, 20 CAME.

I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE HAD A CITY THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH STUFF.

WELL, MY POSITION WILL STAY THE SAME.

THAT'S AWESOME, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, BUT SEE, I'M A I'M A TYPE OF PERSON IN REGARDS TO WE LOOK AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP, IT'S GOING TO BE MAINLY THE ONCE IN ABOUT IT FOR NEWCOMERS BECAUSE THEY PURCHASED THE THEY VALUES.

BUT THE PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN HERE, WHO'S BEEN LIVING HERE HAVE ROADS THAT STILL FLOOD AFTER 15, 20 YEARS.

IT'S NOT. HAVE ROADS DURING A HURRICANE.

WE LIVE IN FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, IT RAINS LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY.

WHAT WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE BETTER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO BE PAYING FOR AND WHAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE PAYING FOR. THAT'S MY MY RESPONSE TO THAT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'M A NEW RESIDENT. I CAME IN I MOVED HERE IN 2019, THE END OF 2019.

AND I MEAN, WHEN I HEARD I HAD A BOND, I'M JUST COMING INTO THE CITY.

I MEAN, I'M GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, PAYING MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THIS ROAD BOND.

I MEAN, I'M LIKE, DANG, I JUST GOT HERE.

BUT BUT THE THING IS, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE.

A.B.. NO, I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET A BOND BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CAP BACK IN 2016, THOSE ROADS WOULD HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN IT EVERY YEAR.

WE WOULD HAVE THAT. YOU WOULD HAVE THAT LIKE EVEN WHAT YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND YOUR KIDS THAT GET READY TO GO TO COLLEGE.

THERE FOR YEARS, YOU PUT THINGS ASIDE TO BE READY FOR THAT FOR YEARS WHEN YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I MEAN, I'M NOT.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD AS IF EVERYBODY'S IN THE SAME POSITION AND THEY'RE NOT.

AND SO WE JUST GOT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THE FEW.

BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE DONE.

SOME THINGS JUST HAVE TO BE DONE.

SO I THINK THAT IT JUST TAKES MORE.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID IN IN REGARDS TO THE HOME AND WHEN IT CAME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY HOUSING. THOSE IN MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS ARE VETERANS.

AND HONESTLY, AS A COUNTRY AND WHAT WE DO ON THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULDN'T LEAVE OUT WITH NO RESOURCES. AND THE ELDERLY, LIKE I'M SHOCKED, SEE AS MANY ELDERLY.

EVEN ON PALM BAY ROAD AND STARK BOULEVARD, THERE IS A COMMUNITY OF.

LIVE ON THAT SET, THAT TO ME IS THAT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PLACES IN PALM BAY, JUST LIKE

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AND AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO HAVING THOSE RESOURCES.

AND WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NEW REVENUE COMING IN, THOSE PRIORITIES ARE NOT MET. THAT'S WHY I GO BACK TO AT SOME POINT WE JUST GOT TO SAY AND LIKE WE WERE IN A MEETING THE OTHER DAY, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THERE WERE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE CAN'T COVER.

SO THEN IF WE GO BACK TO THE BUDGET AND STICK TO THAT CAP, STILL GOING TO BE NEXT YEAR.

IT'S LIKE IT WAS THE YEAR BEFORE AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT AT SOME POINT WE JUST GOT TO STAY READY FOR.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO STRESS, I WANT TO I WANT TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT HERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE CAN ALL REMAIN CIVIL EVEN THOUGH WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

AND I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.

AND THAT'S AN ENTITY OF THIS BOARD I WILL ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP EVEN WHEN I'M NOT IN THIS POSITION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ALWAYS BE THERE, THAT WE CAN RESPECT EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE OUR DIFFERENCES.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME TOGETHER AND TRY AND GET A PRIORITIZED LIST AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATION. A COUPLE OF THINGS I DID WANT TO ADD BASED UPON SOME COMMENTS.

YES, A FEW OF THESE SEVERAL THESE ITEMS I'VE SEEN EVERY YEAR ON THE REQUEST OF THE FIRST YEAR, OUR CITY MANAGER SAID HERE ARE 16 MILLION DOLLARS OF REQUESTS.

HE SAID, YOU GOT ONE MILLION AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

I WAS I WAS TAKEN ABACK.

HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? HOW DO WE. MOVE FORWARD.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THIS CHARGE THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, I URGE AND I HEAR THE COMMENTS ABOUT I'M ALL FOR BUSSON, I'M AWFUL FOR I'M ALSO GIVE BECAUSE I STARTED THAT CONVERSATION WITH MY THOUGHTS.

I ALSO WANT TO GIVE THE INVERSE THOUGHT.

BACK WHEN WE ADDED, I REMEMBER BEING IN THIS ROOM FOR A VERY, VERY LONG MEETING REGARDING STORM WATER. AND INTO THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT, I BELIEVE, AROUND 230 A.M., THAT ONE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE WERE PEOPLE STATING HOW A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS A YEAR. WAS GOING TO PRICE THEM OUT OF THEIR.

WE CAN ARGUE ALL DAY LONG THE FACT OR THE TRUTH BEHIND THAT STATEMENT, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LEFT PALM BAY BECAUSE OF.

ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS A YEAR.

GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT, WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN STATEMENTS ALL DAY LONG.

THAT WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

SO I CAUTION US JUST TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT, I'M ALL FOR BEST.

IT'S GOT TO BE FOR 100 PERCENT JUST REASON TO DO THAT, I SAY THAT TO SAY WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH THAT.

I'LL WE MIGHT BE PASSIONATE WITH THAT THOUGHT, THERE IS AN INVERSE THOUGHT OR INVERSE PERSPECTIVE ON EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE, EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO.

I DID WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS WELL.

I SAID, SAY AGAIN, I THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR INPUT TONIGHT.

WE DO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JULY.

JULY 6TH, AT THAT TIME, WE ARE PROJECTING, POSSIBLY GETTING SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS.

AND KIND OF SEEING WHERE IT SITS BASED UPON IF THE MILITARY WAS ALLOWED TO STAY THE SAME, THAT WOULD BE BUSTING THE CAP OR IF WE GO WITH THREE PERCENT CAP NUMBER OR IF WE GO WITH THE ROLLBACK. NO.

KIND OF THE THREE NUMBERS THAT ARE PRESENTED EACH TIME AND THEN SOMETIMES COUNSEL WILL SAY, WHAT IF WE PICK A NUMBER IN BETWEEN THESE TWO, THEY DO SOME CRAZY CONVERSATION.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHO THEY ARE.

THAT'S THE CHARGE THAT THEY HAD.

SO THEY'VE GOT TO BE CREATIVE IN THEIR THOUGHTS, TOO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET PRESENTED WITH THOSE.

I URGE YOU GUYS, TAKE YOUR NOTES THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU MADE FROM THIS COME PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE AS FAR AS THAT MILITARY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A HOT TOPIC, AND AT THAT TIME, WE WILL NEED TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE SENT TO COUNSEL FROM THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD IN REGARDS TO HOW THEY VIEW THE MILITARY, WHETHER OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE AN ARBITRARY NUMBER SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, WHETHER IT WOULD BE ROLLBACK, WHETHER IT WOULD BE THREE PERCENT, WHETHER IT WOULD BE BURSTEN BUSTING THE CAP, HOWEVER.

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WE AS A BOARD AFTER THAT POINT.

SOMETHING I'VE ALWAYS SAID WHENEVER I'M ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION OR I WERE TO HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WE CAN HAVE OUR DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.

BUT WHEN WE WALK OUT OF HERE, AT THAT POINT, WE AS A BOARD DECIDED THIS.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN STAY UNIT AFTER.

WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN OPINION, BUT WE AS A BOARD, THIS WAS OUR DECISION AND OUR RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S WHAT I ASK OF EACH OF YOU AT THAT POINT.

MAKE SURE WE ARE A SOLID FORCE GOING FORWARD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.

I FEEL THAT GIVES US MORE VALIDITY.

PERSONALLY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY LAST CLOSING COMMENTS, CHAIR? YES, FOR ME, GUYS DRUMMED UP SOME QUESTIONS AND TALKING.

AWESOME. I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS CAP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO I'M GOING TO BE HUMBLE AND AND ASK WHAT? I DON'T KNOW. I NEED TO CONNECT THE DOTS.

THIS WAS INSTALLED IN 2016.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ELECTION YEAR, THAT IT WAS ON THE BALLOT REFERENDUM AND THEY KIND OF REMEMBER THAT NOW AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE IDEA OF LIFTING IT. YOU MENTIONED IN PAST FISCAL YEARS, THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY DID VOTE IN A SUPERMAJORITY AND LEFT THERE HAS NOT BEEN LIFTED SINCE THE 2016 IMPLEMENTATION FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS AFTER IT WAS PASSED ON REFERENDUM, IT WAS VOTED WITH SUPERMAJORITY TO PASS THE CAP FOLLOWING TWO YEARS WAS VOTED WITH THE THREE PERCENT CAP.

AND NOW, I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE NEXT YEAR.

OH, YOUR.

INCLINATION IS TO RECOMMEND THAT FOR THE 21 22 FISCAL YEAR DIRECTLY, THE REQUEST OF COUNSEL WOULD BE TO BUST IT FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR 21 22.

THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO RECOMMEND, THEY'VE GOT TO DECIDE THIS CURRENT COUNCIL.

I MEAN, THEY LAST YEAR WENT WITH THE THREE PERCENT CAP, RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH WITH THE SAME SHORTFALLS, I'M TELLING YOU THAT A LOT OF THESE THINGS WERE THE EXACT SAME THAT WERE ON THESE DEPARTMENTS ASKS JUST LAST YEAR AND THEY ELECTED TO GO WITH THE THREE PERCENT CAP, WHICH AGAIN, THEY'VE GOT TO ANSWER THE HARD QUESTION.

RIGHT. SO IF I'M GOING TO TALK TO A CITIZEN AND ASK THEM, HEY, YOU KNOW, IN THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY MORE? SO ON THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO SAY AS WELL, HOW MUCH MORE SO REALISTICALLY FROM THREE PERCENT? I MEAN, WHERE WOULD WE NEED TO GO TO MAKE AN IMPACT? WHERE WOULD WE GO TO MAKE AN IMPACT AND TRY? AND I'M GOING TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS AND AND AGAIN AND TRY TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S MOST EASIEST TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO INSINUATE ANYTHING.

OH, ABSOLUTELY. SAY THIS YEAR YOU MAKE 100 DOLLARS OR IN THE THREE PERCENT CAP.

NEXT YEAR YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO MAKE 103 DOLLARS.

A. AND YOU SAY THAT'S ROUGHLY ACCURATE.

YES, SO SO THERE'S REALLY TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT IT, THREE PERCENT CAP.

YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FROM A CITIZEN STANDPOINT.

YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT IN YOUR POCKET.

YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I DID THAT HAS A SLIDE ON IT THAT SHOWS THAT COMPARISON OF WHAT AVERAGE PAYING CITIZEN OF THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE IN THE CITY PALM BAY WOULD BE PAYING ON.

AND I ACTUALLY DID ROLLBACK RATE VERSUS A THREE PERCENT CAP.

SO ROLLBACK IS NOT MAKING ANY MORE MONEY THIS YEAR THAN WE DID LAST YEAR.

AND THEN THE THREE PERCENT CAP, HOW THAT IS CALCULATED IS, AS I LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY BRINGING IN FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, I ADD THREE PERCENT TO SOME SIMPLE MATH CALCULATION. HOWEVER, ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS HIT THE TAX TRAIL AS OF TWELVE, THIRTY ONE OF LAST YEAR, BECAUSE I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR YEAR, IS EXEMPT FROM THAT THREE PERCENT CAP FROM FIRST CALENDAR YEAR.

SO I ESSENTIALLY DO A THREE PERCENT CAP BASED ON ANY CURRENT VALUATIONS AND THEN I APPLY THAT RATE TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN AFTER THAT FIRST CALENDAR YEAR BACK, NEW CONSTRUCTION FALLS UNDER THE THREE PERCENT CAP. SO IF YOU GO THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A COMPARISON OF WHAT AN AVERAGE HOMEOWNER BASED ON PROPERTY TAXES.

AND ALSO REMEMBER THE CITY PALM BAY PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAXES WOULD BE PAYING IF I WERE TO REDUCE THAT RATE BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO GO TO ROLL BACK.

AND THEN I TAKE THAT CALCULATION AND I SHOW YOU WHAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN TOTALITY WOULD BE LOSING IF I WERE TO REDUCE THAT RATE.

THAT HELPS A. AN EXTENT, BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR HERE IS HOW MUCH MORE IT WOULD PAY, SO

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SO WHAT WHAT I DO IS THIS I PEREZ USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE BUILD OUR PROPOSED BUDGET ON THE THREE PERCENT CAP AND THEN WE PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH THE NEEDS FOR THE CITY, THE PRIORITIES, WHETHER THEY ARE DEPARTMENTAL PRIORITIES, WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE, AND THEN THEY MAKE THAT DECISION.

WHAT RATE TO SET IT AT.

I HAVE AN A VERY MASSIVE CALCULATOR SPREADSHEET THAT WHERE I CAN PUT ANY MILLAGE RATE NUMBER IN AND IT WOULD SHOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE OF INCREASE IN REVENUE OR REDUCTION WOULD BE. SO IT IS ESSENTIALLY A WHAT DOES COUNCIL FEEL? DO THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE PRIORITIES WHERE THEY FEEL IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO EXCEED THAT THREE PERCENT CAP, OR DO THEY FEEL THAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE NOT MET AND THEY WANT TO STAY WITHIN THE THREE PERCENT CAP? SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY UP TO THEM WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO SET THE RATE AT.

SO IF THEY SAY, YES, WE HAVE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES THAT WOULD FALL UNDER OUR QUALIFICATIONS OF EXCEEDING THAT CAP, THEN I CAN SAY I NEED AN ADDITIONAL SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, SO MANY DOLLARS IN TOTALITY FOR THE CITY, AND THEN THAT RATE CAN BE SET AT THAT RATE TO GENERATE THAT REVENUE BASED ON THE VALUATIONS THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER BRINGS.

SO FORGIVE ME FOR SUMMARIZING, BUT AS I'M UNDERSTANDING, IF THE CAP DIDN'T EXIST, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEY WOULD VOTE ON A CERTAIN RATE, BUT IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY.

IT WOULD JUST BE A MAJORITY.

SO REALLY, IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CAP REQUIRES THAT ONE ADDITIONAL VOTE AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT SERVES.

YES. SO SO THE CAP IS IN PLACE.

AND IN ORDER TO EXCEED THAT CAP, I DON'T LIKE TO USE THE WORD OF THE CAP.

AND I WAS KIND OF LAST.

BUT TO SEE THAT CAP, YOU DO NEED A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE.

I IN PREVIOUS YEARS THAT THEY HAVE EXCEEDED THAT CAP, THOSE FIRST TWO YEARS WE WERE IN HURRICANE SEASON. I WILL CAUTION THAT.

SO WE HAD HURRICANE MATTHEW AND HURRICANE IRMA AND THAT WAS A BIG DRIVER IN THAT.

SO USUALLY WE WE CAUTION, BUT THERE WAS SOME REACTIVE LOSS DUE TO THAT THAT EXPENSE THAT THE CITY HAD TO PICK UP FOR THOSE THOSE TWO HURRICANES BACK TO BACK.

AND A LOT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT THAT WENT THROUGH AND EXCEEDING THAT CAP WHERE THERE WAS A LARGE BASE ON THAT FOR RECOVERY, HAD THE CAP NONEXISTENT, WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS AND WE WOULD HAVE SAID IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THESE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE NEED TO GO AT THIS RATE.

AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL.

WELL, AGAIN, THIS IS A WORLD WHERE THE CAP DOESN'T EXIST.

A THREE TO TWO VOTE WOULD HAVE SENT THAT RATE THROUGH HAD THERE NOT BEEN A CAP.

RIGHT. SO ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU ARE LIVE OR OPERATE IN A CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A THREE PERCENT CAP, IDEALLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I MANAGE THE CITYWIDE BUDGET, IS THAT WE BUILD A BUDGET BASED ON CURRENT NEEDS.

AND I USUALLY APPROACH THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND SAYING.

BUILD A BASE BUDGET ON WHAT YOU NEED TO OPERATE.

THAT MEANS YOU NEED TO PAY BILLS.

YOU HAVE CERTAIN INCREASES IN KNOWN COSTS THAT YOU HAVE, AND WE BUILD THAT BASE BUDGET AND WE HAVE THESE WANTS AND NEEDS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS SUBMIT.

AND THEN COUNCIL WITHOUT A THREE PERCENT CAP CAN CHOOSE TO SAY, YES, THESE ARE GOING TO BE PRIORITIES FOR THIS NEXT YEAR OR THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY THREE TO FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND THE FUNDING AND THEN THEY SET A CAP IN ORDER TO GENERATE THAT REVENUE TO SUPPORT THOSE NEEDS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS AND FOR THE CITIZENS. AND I SAID LAST QUESTION ON THIS TOPIC, IF I MAY ASK, HOW MANY NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE THIS GAP? IF OUR COUNTY, PREVITE COUNTY, HAS IT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE FROM PEOPLE THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, I DO NOT KNOW ANOTHER CITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT HAS IT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. YEAH, THAT THAT IS FROM SOME YEARS BACK HAVING TO HAVING WORKED WITH A CONSULTANT WHO DID SOME SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS FOR OUR GENERAL FUND.

AND THAT'S WHAT SUPPORTS THE AD VALOREM.

BUT I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER BREVARD COUNTY CONSIDER THEMSELVES EXCLUSIVE IN THE CLUB OF ONE IN 67 AS WELL.

OH, FORGIVE ME FOR SUMMARIZING, BUT ESSENTIALLY BREVARD COUNTY PUT IT IN PLACE, WE GOT

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IS IT AN ORDINANCE THE THREE PERCENT IS IN THE CHARTER, MEANING THAT THIS IS A VOTER REFERENDUM ITEM, THIS IS NOT AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION THAT CAN CHANGE.

THIS HAS TO GO OUT FOR A VOTE.

OK, AND THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE ON FROM THE TOPIC, BUT MR. CHAIR, I JUST NEED A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

I MARKED MY CALENDAR FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO BE JULY 14TH.

THAT'S WELL, IT'S PUBLISHED ON ISD WEBSITE.

SO ON. IS IT A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 6TH WITH WHAT WE DID IS DUE TO THE TIMING OF MEETING RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO FORTH TO COUNCIL.

WE ACTUALLY ADDED A JULY MEETING AND WE CHANGED THEM TO THE SIXTH AND THE 20TH.

OK, SO SCRATCH THE 14TH AND THE SIXTH AND THE 20TH.

THOSE ARE BOTH TUESDAYS RATHER THAN WEDNESDAY.

CORRECT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT SIX P.M.

OR SIX THIRTY P.M.. CORRECT.

THANK YOU. EXCELLENT.

MORE QUESTION. PLEASE DO THIS.

I'D LOVE FOR US TO ALL BE IN THE KNOW AS OPPOSED TO LEAVING HERE UNKNOWN.

SO THE AD VALOREM AND THE MILLAGE RATE, HOW ARE THEY RELATED.

SO THE MILITARY RATE IS THE RATE THAT IS SAID, THAT IS USED TO CALCULATE THE PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE AD VALOREM IS WHAT'S TERMED THE REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED BASED ON THAT TAX ON THAT.

OK, SO YOU'LL SEE AD VALOREM OPERATING REVENUE RELATED TO THAT.

SO AD VALOREM IS USUALLY THE TERM THAT THEY USE IS THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED ASSOCIATED WITH THE TAXATION.

HOW DOES THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU SAY WE GET A PORTION, WE DON'T GET THE OLDEST SYSTEM OUT, SO ALL OF THE HOMES IN PALM BAY, WE ARE ALL ASSESSED.

RIGHT, BASED ON THE VALUE OF OUR HOME.

CORRECT. AND THIS THREE PERCENT IS, I GUESS, THE RATE THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO GET OR HOW DOES THAT.

RIGHT, SO RIGHT QUESTION.

OK, SO THE RAID, THE MILITARY THAT I SET, SO IT'S USUALLY SEVEN POINT THE CURRENT ONE TWO SEVEN FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY A RATE THAT IS USED TO CALCULATE THE TAXES THAT YOU PAY.

AND IT'S ONLY FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO THE THREE PERCENT CAP MEANS THAT I HAVE TO SET THE RATES SO THAT OUR REVENUE FALLS. IT'S USUALLY RIGHT BELOW A THREE PERCENT REVENUE GAIN FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. I WAS THE MISSING PIECE FOR ME.

YEAH, I LOVE YOU AND I ALWAYS SAY IF THE PORTIONS OF YOUR TAXES, BECAUSE WHEN YOU PAY YOUR PROPERTY TAXES, THOSE DO NOT ALL GO TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE CITY PALM BAY HAS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THAT.

SO I PROBABLY, BASED ON WHAT I SEE.

SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THAT GOES TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THERE'S MUCH OF IT THAT GOES TO CERTAIN AREAS OF TAXATION THAT THE COUNTY HAS.

SO WHEN YOU GET YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT YOUR TAX TO. FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY GOES THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH.

THEY SET A RATE.

AND BASED ON YOUR HOME VALUATION, THE RATE THAT THEY SET AT THAT THEY ARE RATE AT THAT PORTION OF YOUR PROPERTY TAXES IN TOTALITY GOES TO THE COUNTY.

THE PALM BAY NEVER SEES A PORTION OF THAT.

SO WE SEE LESS THAN 30 PERCENT.

SO IF YOU HAVE A TAX BILL OF TWELVE HUNDRED DOLLARS, THAT MAY GO UP TO THIRTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS. THAT ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR VARIANCE MAY NOT GO TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT GOES TO OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

I COULD ELABORATE REAL QUICKLY, I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT MY TAX BILL.

MY HUSBAND DOES ALL OF THAT AND I GOT THE SAKE OF EDUCATION.

AND THIS IS JUST A PREVIOUS YEAR'S HOT TOPIC.

AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

IN THIS WAY, IF YOU PULL UP YOUR TAX BILL FROM THE PROPERTY, APPRAISERS SAY GO TO TAXES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THESE ITEMS. AND I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND SHOW IT, BECAUSE THEN ALL ISSUES ABOUT EVERYBODY SEEING EVERYTHING IN PUBLIC RECORD IS MY TAX BILL.

ONLY 35 PERCENT OF MY TAX BILL GOES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A THREE PERCENT CAP ON THAT AMOUNT.

IT DOES CHANGE THE CONVERSATION, IT'S NOT ALL OF YOUR ENTIRE TAX BILL BY ANY STRETCH, ONLY THAT PORTION ALLOCATED FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAD DONE THAT THAT EVERYBODY HAS WHERE I DID A MOCK UP VALUATION OF WHAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE PAYING TO THE CITY ON AVERAGE HOMEOWNER I'M THINKING I PROBABLY PICKED A HUNDRED THOUSAND. I WOULD HAVE TO PULL AND LOOK BACK AT IT.

BUT IF I WERE TO GO FROM THE THREE PERCENT CAP RATE THIS YEAR TO A ROLLBACK RATE, I KNOW THAT THAT COMES UP A LOT AS WE HAVE VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER TO DO OR DO ASK FOR THAT

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IF I LOOKED AT OUR VALUATIONS OR WHAT WE BRING IN, SO THAT AD VALOREM I SPOKE ABOUT IS THIS WHAT I CAN TAX BASED ON THAT RATE IN TOTALITY OF THE REVENUE THAT WE WOULD WOULD BRING IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, IF I WOULD HAVE GONE FROM A THREE PERCENT CAP TO A ROLLBACK RATE, A CITIZEN BETWEEN EIGHT TO TWELVE DOLLARS AND WE'VE LOST ALMOST A MILLION.

THAT'S THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT THE THREE PERCENT CAP, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I UNDERSTAND IT MORE NOW WHEN I GO BACK AND REVIEW.

THANK YOU. ONE LAST THING.

IF I COULD REQUEST ANGELICA, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PULL A LINK TO THE I THINK IT WAS SANTIC PRESENTATION AND SEND THAT TO THE ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? YES. AND SO SO JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, SANTIC WAS IN A CONSULTANT THAT WE USED ABOUT FOUR, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO THAT EVALUATED OUR IMPACT FEES.

AND WE WENT AHEAD AND HAD THEM DO A SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS ON THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THEY LOOKED AT THEY LOOK AT A FIVE TO 10 YEAR OUTLOOK OF MAINTAINING THE CAP, EXCEEDING THE CAP, LOOKING AT OUR CAPITAL ASSETS, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEY ARE PROJECTIONS ON WHAT IF WE WERE TO MAINTAIN THE CAP GOING FORWARD.

OVER FIVE TO 10 YEARS, SO IT'S ABOUT THREE OF THREE OF A FOUR YEARS OLD THAT I HAVE REQUESTED WITH A CITY MANAGER, THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE THAT REDONE BECAUSE WE REALLY SHOULD TRY TO DO IT ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO REDO A NEW UPDATED ONE THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR WITH NEW DATA.

AND THAT LINK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CLOSE, GUYS, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THE MILITARY IS SEVEN POINT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT.

I WOULD HAVE TO PULL IT I'M SORRY I HAVE SO MANY SO MANY NUMBERS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY IT'S FUN. I THOUGHT I WAS LIKE, YEAH, OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T. IT HAS NOT.

WE WERE AT EIGHT POINT FOUR OR FIVE AND THEN IT TWO YEARS AGO IT DROPPED BELOW EIGHT.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABOVE EIGHT FOR THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR IN A ROW.

IT'S BEEN BELOW EIGHT PERCENT.

IT DROPPED UNDER. THANK YOU.

AND ALSO WE DO HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP JUNE 22ND, STARTING AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU CANNOT COME, PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME AND DO WATCH IT.

WE WILL BE DOING A MEDIA REVIEW AND WE WILL ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT THE RATES, PRELIMINARY RATES THAT WE HAVE BASED ON VALUATIONS THAT JUST CAME IN.

MY LAST THING IS I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT.

PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM, THEY ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN UNDERSTAND, THEY DO HAVE ALL THEIR OTHER THINGS GOING ON AND BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT, I ASK, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD. AND IF I DON'T SEE ANYBODY RAISE EVERYTHING I'VE GOT, HERE WE GO.

I'LL GET. THE THREE PERCENT IN THE MILITARY AND THE ROLLBACK STILL IS ENOUGH FOR ME, I THINK, OH, MY GOSH, HOW IN THE WORLD ARE WE GOING TO HOPE TO CHANGE THIS? I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT.

KNOW HOW THE PUBLIC CAN, BUT THINGS THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES TO GIVE AN ANSWER ABOUT, HOW IT WILL IMPACT IN TERMS OF DOLLARS, BECAUSE WE HAVE.

A GROWTH FACTOR.

THE MORE PEOPLE, THE MORE THINGS THAT ARE TAX ALSO.

INFLUENCE OR GOOD INFLUENCE READ OUT THE TAXATION, I GUESS, BUT I'M GETTING.

THAT. ERI.

BUT. THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, IS ANYBODY WE JUST WENT THROUGH AN ELECTION, WE HAVE THREE NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE.

THIS COME UP IN THE ELECTION.

DID ANYBODY ASK WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE OR WHAT IF THEY SUPPORT? HOW EDUCATED ARE OUR.

ALL OF THIS OR DO THE THREE NEW PEOPLE NEED SOME? I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TO MR. FILBERTO, I BELIEVE HE COULD ANSWER THAT.

I'M ACTUALLY ALMOST OUT OF THAT AS WELL.

MR. PARR. I WILL ATTEST.

I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 2018.

IT WAS A VERY HOT TOPIC IN OUR ELECTION YEAR IN 2008 WHEN I RAN FOR COUNCIL.

AND IT WAS A VERY.

OUR THOUGHTS BEHIND IT ALSO, WE WERE IN THAT AT THAT TIME LOOKING AT.

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THAT'S THAT'S A CHARTER.

IT'S BEEN BROUGHT BY.

BROUGHT FORWARD AND PUSHED A CURRENT COUNCILMAN AND GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT, OR BOTH SIDES TO IT. IT IMPROPER TO ASK FOR THIS OR ALL THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL.

THERE YOU ARE.

AND SUPPORT, I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE PROPER NECESSARILY TO SEND A POLL TO THEM, BUT WE ARE FULLY WITHIN OUR RIGHT.

IF YOU WISH TO REACH OUT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY, UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T AND SUNSHINE LAWS, WE CAN'T SEND SOMETHING TO ALL OF THEM TOGETHER WITHOUT IT BEING IN A COLLECTIVE RECORDED SITUATION.

BUT YOU ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ALL THEIR EMAILS AND THEIR CITY CELL PHONE NUMBERS ARE ON THE CITY WEBSITE TO REACH OUT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND ASK THEIR OPINION ON 100 PERCENT.

I WOULD DEFINITELY HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THE COUNCILMAN THAT APPOINTED YOU DEFINITELY AND GET THEIR INPUT, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE ALSO EXTENSIONS OF THE ONES WHO PUT US HERE, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY WHO WE SHOULD KNOW THERE.

IT'S 100 PERCENT.

YES. SUFFICE TO SAY THAT THIS JUNE 22ND AT SIX P.M.

RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER WORKSHOP IS GOING TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR THE COUNCIL IN THE PUBLIC LIGHT.

RIGHT. SO I'LL BE THERE AND MS. CONNELLY, I'LL BE PAYING ATTENTION.

WHO ASKED WHAT QUESTION? AND THEN WE'LL KNOW AND THEN WE'LL KNOW.

SUNSHINE TELCEL SHINE THE LIGHT.

ABOVE IT. ANYBODY ELSE? I'M JUST ONE THING SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOW, LIKE WHEN I DO MY RESEARCH AND I DIDN'T JUST HASTILY SAY BUST THE CAP, BECAUSE ALL THAT INFORMATION IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY APPRAISER. YOU CAN PULL UP ANY ADDRESS, FIND OUT HOW MUCH THEY PAY TO WHAT WHAT IS ALLOCATED. BUT WHEN I SAID SNATCH THE BAND-AID, I KNOW IT'S NOT A BIG FAN.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO ACTUALLY, HONESTLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT ONLY 35 PERCENT GOES TO THE CITY THAT THEY LIVE IN AND THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY COMPLAINTS.

BUT IF THEY HONESTLY KNEW THAT ONLY LESS THAN 20.

GO TO THE MOVIES, YOU SPEND 60.

LESS THAN 20 DOLLARS FOR THAT FOR THAT TAX BILL.

THAT ONE TIME BILL IS GOING TO YOUR CITY THAT YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT BECAUSE THE ROADS ARE NOT EQUIPPED. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIND OUT THAT OUR ACTUAL DISPATCH FOR FIRE IS ACTUALLY BEEN IN A CITY.

ROCKLEDGE DOESN'T HAVE A CAP.

SO THAT THAT TROUBLES ME.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE BOVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER, PULL ANY AND EVEN THE ADDRESS THAT YOU LIVE IN OR YOU REPRESENT, JUST LOOK TO WHEN THOSE PEOPLE COME TO YOU, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PULL THEIR ADDRESS AND TELL THEM, WELL, IF WE DECIDED TO GO WITH EIGHT OR NINE PERCENT, IT WAS ONLY GOING FOR THAT ONE YEAR.

IT'S NOT LIKE EVERY MONTH.

IF YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE THAT AND ACTUALLY BREAK IT DOWN TO THEM, MORE PEOPLE WILL BE LIKE, OK, SO MAD BECAUSE BOVARD COUNTY HAS THE CAP BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING 70 PERCENT OF THE BILL. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE A CAP.

WE WANT TO GET IN. THIRTY FIVE PERCENT.

WE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE AS WE'RE ONLY GETTING.

OH, LIKE A FRAGMENT FROM REALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I URGE YOU TO GO BACK TO THE COMMENT OF HER PRESENTATION, THINKING ABOUT 12 TO 20 BUCKS.

A YEAR, US TRANSLATES TO A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE CITY.

THAT'S THE IS ALMOST LIKE A TRANSLATION, AND I'VE HAD THIS AS A REAL TIME LOOK AT TAX RATES, WE'RE TALKING PREDICT THEIR DEBT TO INCOME RATIO ON THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENT.

AND IT'S A HOT TOPIC WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT'S HOMESTUDY OR NOT.

I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING I SEE EVERY DAY AND IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING.

IGNORANCE IS RAMPANT IGNORANCE, I KNOW I SAY IT WITH MY STUDENTS, IGNORANCE IS NOT A BAD WORD, JUST MEANS WE HAVEN'T BEEN SHOWN, HAVING BEEN TOLD ABOUT IT, IT'S NOT A BAD WORD.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO DO OUR PART AS EDUCATED.

I GOT ON THIS BOARD. IT WAS A HELL OF AN EDUCATION TIME.

I DEFINITELY THINK ALL THE PERSONNEL AT THE CITY AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS OVER THE YEARS AND OH, AND AND JUST SO THAT YOU REMEMBER THIS IS THAT THAT'S WHY WE FOCUS A LOT.

AND I DID MY PRESENTATION AND A LOT ON THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THE GENERAL FUND IS WHAT YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS THAT TAXATION AND OUTSIDE OF UTILITIES, STORM WATER, WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO SAY PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE BUT IT'S STORMWATER AND BUILDING AND

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THE REMAINDER OF THE APARTMENTS THAT YOU NAMED ARE ALL FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND. SO FIRE, POLICE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I.T., H.R., THEY ALL FULLY RELY ON REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED VIA TAXATION AND OTHER.

WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER REVENUES COMING IN FROM THE STATE, BUT ALSO THAT YOU REMEMBER, THAT'S WHY WE HEAVILY FOCUS ON THAT GENERAL FUND, ON DECISION MAKING.

THAT'S ALSO WHY WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON EQUITY.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE EQUITABLE FOR EVERYBODY, FOR EVERYBODY TO CARE LIKE THAT, SO THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF IT AS WELL.

SO THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO SAY, LET'S THINK ABOUT MILITARY THOUGHT, IF YOU NEED MORE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED, PLEASE REACH OUT TO CITY PERSONNEL AND EATING GERRAND.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.