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IT IS 19 HUNDRED HOURS, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER:]
WE'LL START BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON LEADING US WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO FACE THE FLAG.RALF. ADAM JONES, ROLL CALL, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE, BAILEY HERE, SIR, YOU FELIX IF YOU'RE IF.
OK, SO ONE ITEM ON THE ON THE AGENDA IS BUSINESS.
[1. Mid-year review of Fiscal Year 2020-2021 budget; discussion of proposed budget for Fiscal Year 2021-2022.]
I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE IT.
SO TONIGHT, THE PURPOSE OF OUR MEETING IS TO GO THROUGH TWO SETS OF INFORMATION.
PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN UPDATE FOR OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE 2021 MID-YEAR REVIEW. AND THE OTHER PART IS GOING TO BE SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE BASE BUDGET FOR 2022 IS SHAPING, SHAPING UP TO LOOK LIKE.
AND SO THERE'LL BE SOME THINGS WERE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT.
LAST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION FROM YOU, BUT ALSO TELL YOU WHAT THINGS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DATA ON JUST YET, SO WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT. SO JUST BY WAY OF AGENDA, GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY JUST SO WE CAN GET TO THE CORE DISCUSSION, BUT I'LL START WITH SOME OVERVIEW OF SOME THINGS WE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, AS WELL AS SOME GOALS WE'VE SET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND BEYOND.
SOME OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE SHARED WITH US PREVIOUSLY AS SOME IMPORTANT ITEMS FOR YOU. AND THEN THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY OTHERS YOU'LL YOU'LL SHARE TONIGHT.
WE'LL ALSO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE REVENUE EXPENDITURE ANALYSIS FOR GENERAL FUND, SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS, THE LARGER ONES, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE FUNDING REQUESTS FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS YOU SHOULD HAVE UP ON YOUR AT YOUR CHAIRS, A SORT OF LARGE LOOKING DOCUMENT THAT'S FILLED WITH ALL THE FUNDING REQUESTS FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT IN A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE MILITARY DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE.
AND WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE GABON'S DEBT MILEAGE RATES AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE PROCESS JUST TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENT YEAR.
AND IT'S STORMING VERY, VERY NICELY OUT THERE FOR FISCAL YEAR 20, 21.
MOST OF US WILL BE FAMILIAR BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS.
BUT ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I WANT TO START OUT BY NOTING IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TUNE OF ONE POINT EIGHTY SEVEN MILLION THAT INCLUDED SOME VEHICLES, SOME EQUIPMENT AND SOME PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS.
BUT WHAT I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION IN THAT IS THAT THAT FUNDING CAME IN LARGE PART FROM LEFTOVER FUNDING IN THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND THAT WAS NOT NEEDED IN THAT FUND ANY LONGER.
THE FUND BALANCE MET THE REQUIREMENTS, AND SO WE PULLED OUT INTO GENERAL FUND.
AND I DRAW THAT THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THAT FUNDING IS NOT REOCCURRING BUDGETING FOR CAPITAL NEEDS.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A THEME OF SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. ALSO, IN TERMS OF THINGS WE ACCOMPLISHED, WE DID.
WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE GENERAL FUND RESERVES BECAUSE OF UNSPENT FUNDING IN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. AND ALSO WE ADDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES ON ANOTHER SLIDE ALSO INCLUDE A THREE PERCENT PAY INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.
WE IMPROVED COMPETITIVE PAY FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS OR DISPATCHERS. AND THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR SO FAR, WE'VE BROUGHT ITEMS TO COUNCIL AND ADDED SEVEN NEW POSITIONS TO MEET THE GROWING NEEDS OF THE CITY.
WE'VE ALSO EXPANDED OUR GRANTS AND STATE APPROPRIATION FOCUS.
AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THIS IS A FIRST YEAR, AT LEAST IN RECENT YEARS, THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED AN APPROPRIATION FOR, IN THIS CASE, BALFA BORKING.
SO. VERY EXCITING FOR FOR THAT PROGRESS TO HAPPEN AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR PURSUIT OF GRANTS, OBVIOUSLY, TO STRETCH THE DOLLARS AS FAR AS WE CAN GO, THE GO ROAD BOND INVESTMENTS, OBVIOUSLY A BIG PART OF OUR OF OUR PROJECTS LIST IN OUR PROGRESS.
AND SO WE'VE HAD A SECOND DRAWER OF THE THE BONDS.
AND I NOTED FOR YOU THERE THAT WE HAD A STABLE OUTLOOK FROM THE RATING AGENCIES, WHICH WE'RE VERY PROUD OF AND GLAD THAT WE HAD THAT POSITION.
AND A LOT OF THAT DID TIE BACK TO HAVING A SOLID GENERAL FUND RESERVE BALANCE.
LAST COUPLE OF THINGS THERE, STORMWATER FUND INVESTMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MAKING A LOT OF STRIDES IN IMPROVING OUR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
REPLACING FAILED PIPES AND CULVERTS ALL AROUND THE CITY, THAT THAT WORK WILL CONTINUE IN ADVANCE OF THE ROAD BOND PROJECT.
BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE,
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BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO DO REPLACEMENTS, BUT WE ALSO NEED, IN SOME CASES, FULL UPGRADES TO USE NEWER TECHNOLOGY.AND WE ALSO NEED TO BE LOOKING AT STORMWATER TREATMENT.
IN LAST ON THERE, ALSO SOMETHING WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT, WE'VE STARTED SIGNIFICANTLY FUNDING OUR I.T.
DISASTER RECOVERY SITES, AND THAT'S A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON AS A PRIORITY.
SO FOR THE FUTURE, FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO, AS WELL AS OTHER YEARS, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T GET EVERYTHING DONE IN ONE YEAR.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ON OUR LIST.
IT'S NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST.
SO THIS IS ONE THING WHERE AS YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU SEE THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US FOCUS ON. WE OBVIOUSLY APPRECIATE THAT DIRECTION.
SO TO START WITH INCREASING INVESTMENT IN CAPITAL, OUR CAPITAL PLAN, THAT IS CRITICAL FROM A FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY MULTIPLE TIMES THIS THIS, IN FACT, IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A VERY SUBSTANTIAL CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN UNDER LARRY BRADLEE'S LEADERSHIP, WORKING WITH ALL OF THE DIRECTORS, WE PULLED TOGETHER A TRUE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S OUR FIRST YEAR, SO I KNOW IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER AS WE GO AND GROW.
BUT JUST IN GENERAL, FUND FUNDING REQUESTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 ALONE, NOT THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, THINGS THAT ARE BROKEN OR BUILDING NEEDS.
WE WERE LOOKING AT LIKE 13 MILLION DOLLARS IN REQUESTS.
THAT'S A FAR CRY FROM WHAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN PRIOR YEAR BUDGETS, WHERE THERE'S BEEN JUST A HANDFUL OF CAPITAL REQUESTS.
AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL YOU WOULD SEE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE TRUE STORY OF WHAT WHAT IS NEEDED.
AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE LIST, INCLUDING I'VE MENTIONED, RENOVATING AND ADDING BUILDINGS. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A NEW BUILDING, AS WE'RE CALLING IT, OUT HERE AT THE CITY HALL CAMPUS. THE CONVERSATION STARTED WHEN WE REALIZED THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WAS OUTGROWING THEIR SPACE AND THEN THE CUSTOMER UTILITIES CUSTOMER SERVICE GROUP WAS ALSO OUTGROWING THEIR SPACE.
YOU CAN SEE THE LIST IS A LOT OF THINGS, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT, PLANNING FOR CHILLER REPLACEMENTS AND GENERATORS.
THE OTHER THING IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND NEEDING TO LOOK STRATEGICALLY AT WHERE WE GO IS THE NEED FOR INCREASED STAFFING AS THE CITY GROWS.
AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD RESIDENTS AND HOUSEHOLDS AND COMMERCIAL, WE'RE HOPING FOR LOTS OF COMMERCIAL. THERE ARE DEFINITELY POSITIONS THAT WE WILL NEED TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.
ONE THING THAT YOU WILL SEE AS PART OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS LAST YEAR, BECAUSE WE HAD A SHORTAGE AND STATE SHARED REVENUE AND THE UNCERTAINTY OF COVID, WE ACTUALLY DID NOT FUND A NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT WERE ON OUR ON OUR FTE LIST.
SO THIS FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGET ACTUALLY PUTS FUNDING BACK IN FOR ALL THOSE POSITIONS.
AND THEY THERE WERE FROM MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT LIST IF NEED TO.
SO NOT ONLY ARE WE LOOKING TO DO THAT, BUT THEN IN THE FUTURE THERE ARE YOU'LL SEE THESE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT REQUEST LIST.
BUT WE KNOW WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS.
WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT SERIOUSLY PLANNING FOR FUTURE FIRE STATIONS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, STAFFING FOR THOSE POSITIONS.
AND THEN IN JUST ABOUT EVERY DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE THE STAFF HAS NOT GROWN TO MATCH THE NEEDS OF THE CITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OR FOR THE CITY INTERNAL SERVICES.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WILL BE RINGING AND TALKING ABOUT AND TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO FUND. AGAIN, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE LOTS OF MONEY SHAKING FOR MONEY TREE TO GO AND FIX ALL THIS TODAY. I'M JUST KIND OF SHARING THAT.
AND WE'LL WE'LL BE TALKING THROUGH THAT AND THEN ON THE LIST.
LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE KNOW WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TASKED WITH LOOKING AT SERIOUSLY, WHICH IS THINGS LIKE POLICE BODY CAMS, BUILDING SECURITY AND CAMERAS, THOSE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR SITES.
AND LAST ON THAT LIST IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES OR INDUCEMENTS.
THAT IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A FUNDING DISCUSSION, THE NEED TO EXPAND OUR STREETLIGHT COVERAGE IN THE CITY AND TO START TO EXTEND SIDEWALKS.
THOSE HAVE BEEN MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION, I THINK IT SAYS INCENTIVES, BUT BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAMS AND PLANS TO REALLY CREATE MORE OF AN IDENTITY FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WELCOME SIGNAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS ARE ON THE LIST FOR THE FUTURE.
AND OBVIOUSLY, PART OF THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT IS WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE US TO LOOK AT OR DO THOSE NOT MATCH THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION? SO WHICHEVER WAY YOU'D LIKE US TO GO.
ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT SLIDE IS A 10 YEAR HISTORY OF OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALL, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO USE THE MAGICAL ZOOM FEATURE, OK? ALONG THE BOTTOM, IT DOESN'T QUITE THERE FOR 2020 IS THE LAST YEAR ON THIS LIST YOU'LL SEE THAT THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FUND BALANCE IS SIX POINT SEVEN MILLION FOR 2020.
I'M GOING TO SLIDE ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE END AND SHOW YOU THAT ARE UNDER THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE THAT EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FUND BALANCE IS.
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THIRTEEN POINT SEVEN MILLION, I SHOW YOU THAT TO SAY THAT WE ONLY, AS A MINIMUM FUND BALANCE ARE REQUIRED BY OUR AUDITORS REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONALLY, IT'S ABOUT SIX POINT SEVEN MILLION. WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN GRADUALLY, STEADILY INCREASING AND WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN RECENT YEARS IN WHAT'S CALLED UNASSIGNED.SO THAT IS FUND BALANCE THAT IS THERE.
IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S THERE AND IT'S AVAILABLE. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OUR PRIOR YEARS, YOU CAN SEE JUST IN 2016, WE'RE AT TWO POINT ONE.
IN 2017, WE GOT UP TO FIVE POINT TWO AND WE GOT UP TO TEN POINT EIGHT IN OUR THIRTEEN POINT SEVEN MILLION. THAT'S GOOD PROGRESS.
PART OF THE DRAW DOWN HISTORICALLY WAS ACTUALLY FROM HURRICANES WHEN WE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT HURRICANE EVENTS.
THAT'S WHAT LED THE FUND BALANCE, THE UNASSIGNED PORTION TO DRAW DOWN THAT LOW.
AND I JUST MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT 13 MILLION, WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD NUMBER, YOU HAD A SERIES OF HURRICANES LIKE IN 04, FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN TAKE US THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO RESPOND TO ONE.
TROPICAL STORM, YOU KNOW, LOWER LEVEL HURRICANE, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP BUILDING. BUT THAT IS GOOD PROGRESS.
I HAVE TO LOOK AT MY NOTES REAL QUICK.
SO I GUESS IN TERMS OF JUST REAL QUICK THINGS TO TALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR OUR TOP COUPLE LINE ITEMS THAT ARE SOME OF THE BIGGER FUNDING SOURCES OF PROPERTY TAXES, SALES USE, FUEL TAX, THOSE TYPES OF OF NUMBERS, PROPERTY TAXES.
WE HAVE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS THAT HAVE COME IN.
AND JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE AT, WE EXPECT THE FBI 21 YEAR END ESTIMATES TO BE ABOUT THIRTY FIVE POINT SIX MILLION.
BUT BASED ON PROJECTIONS FOR 22, WE LOOK WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT 38 MILLION.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME GOOD INCREASE THERE SIZE AS PROPERTIES ARE COMING ONLINE AND.
THEN YOU GO TO THE STATE EXCUSE ME, THE SALES USE AND FUEL TAX.
THESE ARE A LOT OF THE STATE SHARED REVENUES AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ARE YOUR INVESTMENT FOR THIS YEAR IS ABOUT THREE POINT SIX MILLION.
WE'RE PROJECTING THAT TO BE LOWER, TO BE AROUND TWO POINT NINE CURRENTLY.
THAT IS SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS WE'RE SEEING.
BUT WE ARE THAT'S THE CAVEAT TO SOME OF THIS.
SOME OF THESE REVENUES ARE NOT FINALIZED YET.
SO THE PROPERTY TAXES, WE HAVE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS.
WE ARE WAITING TO GET FINALIZE IN A LITTLE A LITTLE TIME HERE.
WE SHOULD GET THOSE THE STATE YOUR REVENUES.
SOME HAVE COME IN. SOME HAVE NOT.
SO WE'RE WAITING FOR FINAL NUMBERS.
THERE ARE TWO THAT COULD GO UP, THAT COULD GO DOWN.
SO WE'RE KIND OF WAITING TO SEE.
I JUST WANTED TO TO MENTION THOSE SORT OF HIGH LEVELS.
AND LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN TO SO AT THE BOTTOM, TASB, THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, OBVIOUSLY, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT DETAIL IN YOUR EAR AND OUT.
BUT THE TOTAL BOTTOM LINE HERE, IF YOU GO ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2001 AMENDED BUDGET.
OUR. TOTAL EXPENDITURES ESTIMATE IS ABOUT EIGHTY TWO POINT TWO OR OUR FISCAL YEAR 2002 ESTIMATE, IT'S ABOUT EIGHTY-ONE.
TO TRY TO SHOW YOU THAT WITH A LITTLE ZOOM IN, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE NEXT SLIDE. FIRST, WE'LL START WITH THE GENERAL FUND.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE YEAR AND ESTIMATES KIND OF WHERE WE LOOK LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO END THE YEAR. AGAIN, THIS IS BARRING ANY STORM EVENTS OR ANYTHING.
SO THE ESTIMATE OF REVENUES YOU CAN SEE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 WAS EIGHTY TWO POINT TWO MILLION ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES, SEVENTY NINE POINT SEVEN.
SO RIGHT NOW PROJECTING ABOUT TWO POINT FOUR DOLLARS MILLION IN AVAILABLE FUNDING AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE ACCOUNTS CAN DO ANY NUMBER OF THINGS WITH THAT.
BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE TYPICALLY IS THAT MONEY FALLS DOWN INTO FUND BALANCE AND SO FUND BALANCE FURTHER BUILD FROM THERE, WHICH IS A GOOD STRATEGY.
WE'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT MOVING SOME OF SOME OR ALL OF THAT MONEY INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND. AND THAT'S OUR FUND THAT WE WILL USE FOR THE FUTURE AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM AND MAINTAINING OUR ROADS GOING FORWARD.
SO THAT THAT'S ANOTHER STRATEGY AS WELL.
AND JUST YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, I WON'T GO THROUGH IT ALL, BUT IT GIVES YOU SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS SOME HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT DID COME INTO THE BUDGET RELATED TO THE COVID SITUATION. SO THAT'S KIND OF REFLECTED THERE.
TALKS ABOUT SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE ADDED.
AND ALSO THERE WERE A COUPLE, NOT A COUPLE A FEW OF THE POSITIONS WE UNFUNDED LAST FISCAL YEAR THAT WE WENT AHEAD AND CAME TO COUNCIL TO FUND ONCE THE STATE SHARED REVENUE PROJECTION CAME IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT.
NOW MOVING TO GENERAL FUND FISCAL YEAR 2022, OUR BASE BUDGET ESTIMATE, SO THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE WE'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE IN TERMS OF REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES OR ABOUT EIGHTY ONE
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POINT TWO MILLION IN ESTIMATED REVENUES.WE'RE WAITING ON PROJECTIONS TO BE FINALIZED FROM THE STATE AND FROM OBREE RESERVE.
SO THE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES RIGHT NOW ARE ONE MILLION AND THAT GIVES US BASICALLY AN EXTRA MONEY TO DEAL WITH IT, ABOUT TWO HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THE KEY POINTS HERE IS THAT THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE REQUESTS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE CAPITAL ITEMS, AND IT IS BASED ON THE THREE PERCENT CAP RATE, WHICH WILL WILL SHOW A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE SLIDES.
AND SO JUST REAL QUICKLY, A FEW THINGS THAT ARE PART OF WHAT MAKES MAKES AS WE SEE REVENUE GOING UP, WE ALSO SEE EXPENDITURES GOING UP.
SO FEW THINGS TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THAT THIS DOES INCLUDE A PROJECTED THREE PERCENT INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.
IT DOES INCLUDE A FIVE PERCENT HEALTH INSURANCE COST INCREASE THAT WE'RE EXPECTING BASED ON PROJECTIONS. IT ALSO INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, POLICE, FIRE, RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. YOU'LL SEE ONE OF THE SLIDES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEBT.
YOU'LL SEE HOW A COUPLE OF THOSE DEBT LINE ITEMS ARE GOING UP IN COST THIS YEAR COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE HAD TO PAY PREVIOUSLY.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE STORM WATER UTILITY FUND INSTITUTIONAL EXEMPTIONS WILL TALK A LITTLE FURTHER ABOUT THIS AT A FUTURE MEETING.
WE'RE DEALING WITH STORM WATER, BUT ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THE CITY HISTORICALLY HAS WAIVED THE STORMWATER FEES FOR NONPROFITS, INSTITUTIONAL GROUPS LIKE HOSPITALS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE GENERAL FUND IS REQUIRED TO ABSORB THOSE COSTS BECAUSE THOSE CHARGES ARE NOT GIVEN TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
SO THAT IS ABOUT ESTIMATING A TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR COST TO GENERAL FUND TO COVER THAT. SO, AS I MENTIONED, DEBT SERVICE, THERE'S A COUPLE ON HERE THAT ARE TIED TO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE HAVE FALLEN OFF IN PRIOR YEARS.
THERE'S LIKE A COUPLE THAT WE LAST PAID IN 2020, BUT THEY'RE STILL ON THE LIST FOR BIG PICTURE BECAUSE WE PAID THEM OFF LAST FISCAL YEAR.
BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TAXABLE SPECIAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2013, WHICH IS A PENSION REFUND SWAP, GOES UP FROM AROUND EIGHT HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND PRIOR TO THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR PAYMENT TO ABOUT ONE POINT FOUR, FIVE MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO.
ALSO, WE HAVE THE TAXABLE SPECIAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BOND SERIES TWENTY NINETEEN, WHICH IS DOWN YEAR, AND THAT ONE GOES FROM ONE POINT EIGHT TO TWO POINT TWO.
SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THE ONES THAT ARE INCREASING.
BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE A COUPLE HAVE FALLEN OFF.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2010 FOR CITY HALL ANNEX CITY HALL, ANNEX BUILDING. ACTUALLY LAST PAYMENT WAS THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT ONE IS SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE DEBT SERVICE.
MOVING INTO ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THESE ARE JUST, AGAIN, GOING TO BE REALLY QUICK SNAPSHOTS, LOTS MORE DETAIL WE CAN GO INTO IF COUNTLESS QUESTIONS, UTILITIES, OPERATING FUNDS AND SEE THAT THE GET OVER THEIR.
THE OPERATING FUND FISCAL YEAR, 21 YEAR INVESTMENT IS ABOUT THIRTY SEVEN POINT SIX MILLION, TWO ESTIMATED BASE BUDGETS, THIRTY FIVE POINT TWO FOR THE BUILDING FUND, IT'S FOUR POINT FIVE MILLION ENDING THIS CURRENT YEAR ESTIMATE TO FOUR POINT THREE.
ONE WATER UTILITY FUND, IT'S ABOUT FOURTEEN POINT SIX MILLION AND PROJECTED AT NINE POINT FOUR, THE REASON FOR THE BIG DIFFERENCE THERE IS ABOUT.
OR MILLION OR SO WAS USING FUND BALANCE AND STORM WATER TO BUDGET FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS, WHICH MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE FINISHED THIS YEAR ANYWAY.
SO THAT WILL ROLL FORWARD, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THAT ALL WORKS OUT.
AND THEN LAST, THE SOLID WASTE FUND, WHICH IS THE FUND THAT THE PAYMENTS CHARGES FOR SERVICES FLOW IN AND OUT OF FOR THE OR THE SOLID WASTE.
THAT NUMBER IS GOING UP A BIT, BUT NOT ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL THERE.
AND SO ALSO FOR YOU, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THERE IS SOME SECTION DOWN TOWARD THE BOTTOM THAT BREAKS OUT THE BUDGETS IN THESE FUNDS BY TYPE.
SO THERE'S PERSONNEL OPERATING AND DEBT SERVICE.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THOSE BREAK OUT AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, SO FOR FISCAL YEAR, TWENTY TWO DEPARTMENT FUNDING REQUESTS, THESE TWO PIE CHARTS, ONE SHOWS YOU GENERAL FUND, THE OTHER SHOWS YOU ALL THE OTHER FUNDS KIND OF COMBINED. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR IN A LONG TIME THAT YOU'LL SEE THE GENERAL FUND PIE IS OVERWHELMINGLY ACTUALLY CAPITAL REQUESTS.
SO THAT BEIGE COLOR, IF THEY ARE THE LARGER PORTION PORTION, THAT'S ABOUT TWO POINT TEN POINT TWO MILLION IN CAPITAL REQUESTS.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE PERSONNEL AND IN OPERATING AS WELL.
AND SO THESE ARE THE THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT WHERE I'VE ASKED THE TEAM TO REALLY GIVE US A HARD LOOK AT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND PUT THOSE ON PAPER.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IN THIS THIS CAPACITY, THE OTHER FUNDS, THEY'VE TYPICALLY BEEN WEIGHTED MORE HEAVILY TOWARD CAPITAL BECAUSE THE BULK OF THAT IS GOING TO BE UTILITIES AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROGRAMS.
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AGAIN, JUST A FURTHER BREAK OUT ON THE 20 22 DEPARTMENT FUNDING REQUESTS, THESE ARE BROKEN OUT BY PERSONNEL OPERATING AND CAPITAL BY DEPARTMENT, AND THIS TIES TO THE SPREADSHEET HANDOUT THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED.SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF LEAVE THAT AS AS IT IS AND NOT GO INTO THE THE REAL DETAILS ON THAT, OTHER THAN JUST TO SAY THAT, AGAIN, THE TOTAL REQUESTS FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS, ALL CATEGORIES, IS ABOUT FIFTEEN POINT SIX MILLION.
ALL RIGHT, SO MOVING INTO WE'RE RIGHT IN TERMS OF TAXABLE VALUE, FIRST OF ALL, SOME GOOD NEWS, WHICH WE KIND OF DID EXPECT BECAUSE OF THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF PROPERTY VALUES AND BUILDING AND ALL THAT.
SO FOR 2021, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE CURRENT YEAR ADJUSTED TAXABLE VALUE IS AT ABOUT FIVE MILLION. SEVENTY EIGHT.
READING THAT WRONG. A BILLION, 78 MILLION SORRY, SO FAR COMPARED TO FOUR BILLION SIX HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND IN THE PRIOR YEAR.
AND WHAT FOCUS IN ON THIS HELPFUL TO KIND OF RULE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, IS THE MIDDLE COLUMN, WHICH IS THE CURRENT YOUR NEW TAXABLE VALUE.
WE'RE AT TWO HUNDRED NINE MILLION IN NEW TAXABLE VALUE, AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE AND THAT'S PROGRESS FOR THE CITY.
THAT DOES INCLUDE I DID CONFIRM IT DOES INCLUDE THE TWO NEW HOTELS ON PALM BAY ROAD.
THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN OUR OUR TAXABLE VALUE FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THEN WE GET INTO THE OR THE MEAT OF SOME OF THE CONVERSATION, WHICH IS THE AVALANCHE RATE OPTIONS AND WHERE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO WHEN.
AND I SHOULD ALSO I SHOULD'VE SAID THIS AT THE BEGINNING.
I APPRECIATE ANGELICA COLLINS BECAUSE SHE PUT VAST AMOUNT OF WORK INTO THIS AND THIS SPREADSHEET AND EVERYTHING IS HER ACCRETION.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU. BUT ANYWAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ANGELA HAS DONE IS SHE'S GIVEN US THESE VARIETY OF RATE OPTIONS AND SHOWN YOU SOME OF THE REVENUE THAT WOULD COME FROM THAT. AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SLIDES.
BUT JUST TO START WITH THIS ONE, SO.
FISCAL YEAR 2021 WE'RE AT TODAY, OUR CURRENT RATE IS SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT, OUR CURRENT MILITARY. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH REVENUE THAT BROUGHT IN AT THIRTY FIVE POINT TWO MILLION. IF YOU WERE TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT RATES OF SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT, IT WOULD BRING IN WITH THE CURRENT PROPERTY VALUES, YOU WOULD BRING IN ABOUT THIRTY EIGHT POINT SIX DOLLARS MILLION IN REVENUE, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF THREE POINT ALMOST THREE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF RATES BETWEEN SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT UNTIL WE GET TO WHAT IS THE WAY THE BUDGET IS CURRENTLY BUILT, WHICH IS FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO, A THREE PERCENT CAP RATE AS WE'RE REQUIRED TO STATUTORY OR ORDINANCE FOR THE CHARTER.
SO THE THREE PERCENT CAP, IT WOULD BE SEVEN POINT SIX EIGHT NINE TWO WOULD BE THE RATE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT BRINGS IN ABOUT TWO POINT SIX DOLLARS MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. AND THAT'S THAT'S BASICALLY A SEVEN POINT FIFTY SIX PERCENT INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE BOTTOM.
THERE'S A ROLLBACK RATE THAT'S PROVIDED.
SO THAT SHOWN IS THAT WOULD PUT YOU A SEVEN POINT FIVE ONE THREE AND THAT WOULD INCREASE YOUR REVENUES INSTEAD OF TWO POINT SIX MILLION BY ABOUT ONE POINT SEVEN DOLLARS MILLION.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SORT OF BIG PICTURE NUMBERS TO LOOK AT.
AGAIN, THE BUDGET AS IT'S PROPOSED CURRENTLY IS BUILT ON A THREE PERCENT CAP RATE OF THE SEVEN POINT SIXTY NINE TO.
AND IF I JUST GO BRIEFLY TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT THIS IS INTENDED TO SHOW YOU IS AT THE DIFFERENT MILITARY OPTIONS, IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE ONE VERSUS THE OTHER, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT AFFECTS THE REVENUE.
FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP RATE, IT BASICALLY MEANS WE DECREASE OUR REVENUE BY ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED THIRTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE THERE.
SO THE MILITARY WILL DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK FOR, DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND AND BE AWARE OF IT, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE TWO DRAWS ON OUR GABON'S. SO THAT ESSENTIALLY HAS HAD, IN EFFECT, A DOUBLING OF THE RATES AND A DOUBLING OF THE IMPACT TO THE HOUSEHOLDS.
I'M TRYING TO ZOOM IN HERE. SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 2001, THE MILITARY WAS ABOUT SEVEN POINT SEVENTY FIVE TO NINE WITH THE SECOND DRAW.
IT'S NOW AT ONE POINT THREE FIVE FIVE OH.
YOU CAN SEE THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL REVENUES GENERATED.
BUT THE KEY THING THAT'S I THINK, USEFUL TO FOCUS ON IS.
HOW IT AFFECTS AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER.
SO IF YOU WERE JUST TO GO DOWN TO LIKE THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR VALUED PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, AFTER ALL THE EXEMPTIONS AND THINGS, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THE FOSTER FISCAL YEAR 2021
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WOULD BE SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS AND 29 CENTS.WITH THE CURRENT RATE, IT WOULD BE 135 DOLLARS AND 50 CENTS.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY DOUBLING FOR FOLKS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF AS WELL.
AND SO LAST SLIDE HERE IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE YOU WELL, ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES GIVE YOU KIND OF SOME INFORMATION, AS I MENTIONED, THE AVALANCHE TAX INFORMATION OR THE PROPERTY VALUATIONS THAT WE NEED.
WE'LL GET THE FINAL NUMBERS JULY 1ST.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME OF THOSE STATE SHARED REVENUE NUMBERS TO BE FINALIZED.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ALSO WE EXPECT THAT END OF THIS MONTH, EARLY JULY.
SO HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW OFFICIALLY WHERE WE'RE AT ON REVENUES.
AND WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF UPCOMING MEETING DATES, SO.
OR EXCUSE ME, UPCOMING IMPORTANT DATES, SO JULY 1ST, AGAIN, WE GET THE PROPERTY TAX VALUATIONS, WE GET THE OTHER REVENUES, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT SAME GENERAL TIME FRAME.
AND THEN ON JULY 15TH IS WHEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CERTIFICATION OF TAXABLE VALUE. THAT'S ALSO WHEN WE WOULD LOOK TO COUNSEL FOR A PROPOSED MILITARY TO SET.
AND THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD US SAY BEFORE THERE'S A CHANCE YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO HIGHER. YOU YOU'VE PROPOSED IT AT A HIGHER NUMBER BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS COME DOWN.
OUR GOAL IS TO DISTRIBUTE THE BUDGET TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO YOU ALL BY JULY 19TH.
SO THAT'S WHY TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS USEFUL TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE THINKING, MILITARY WISE PRIORITIES, ETC.
THEN YOU CAN SEE WE MOVE TO ACTUAL BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN AUGUST ON THE THIRD IN THE 17TH, AND THEN WE'LL IN SEPTEMBER BE READY FOR THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, HELP US ADOPT THE BUDGET ULTIMATELY.
SO. THAT'S THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL.
AND NOW WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DIRECTION THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PROVIDE. I'M HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH THINGS WITH YOU ALL.
IF YOU MADE JOHNSON, I'LL GO FIRST AND WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.
I'M DEFINITELY COMFORTABLE WITH THE SEVEN POINT SIX EIGHT NINE TWO OH, I DO KNOW PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND THIS COUNCIL.
I'VE SHARED, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FOR POLICE BODY CAMS AND DEFINITELY THIS COUNCIL REGARDING DEVELOPMENT AND SYNAGIS INDUCEMENT.
SO THOSE ARE DEFINITELY HIGH PRIORITIES AS WELL AS, LIKE YOU SAID, OPERATIVELY STAFF AND EVERYWHERE, BECAUSE WE'RE AT 120000 IS ONLY GOING TO GET HIGHER AND WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE BALL IN DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS POLICE BUILDING.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAFF AS WELL AS WE CAN.
SO NO RESIDENTS LEFT ON SERVICE.
SO PERSONALLY, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE SEVEN POINT SIX, EIGHT, NINE TWO.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND INDUCEMENTS CAN ALSO REALLY THAT'S THE BIGGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT, I THINK IS THAT CAN HELP OUT PARKS AND REC, THAT CAN HELP OUT ROAD MAINTENANCE, FUND EVERYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO GET THE COMMERCIAL HERE.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HELP US GROW PROPERLY.
AS WELL AS PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, I GOT YOUR MS. CONNELY. THAT'S ALL THERE.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND WANTED TO GIVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK SINCE I CAN'T MAKE A VISUAL OF HIM COUNCILMAN FOSTER WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN AT THIS TIME? THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO BE VERY SURPRISED.
SO AT THIS TIME, BEFORE WE HAVE COUNCIL DISCUSSION, I THINK I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, PLEASE STEP FORWARD, RAISE YOUR HANDS AND STEP FORWARD AS THE CHIEF.
GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, I'VE REQUESTED BEFORE WE HAD A POSTER HERE, A SCROLL POSTER GAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, PEOPLE, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT PERCENTAGE DOES EACH THING GO OUT TO? IT'S VERY NICE WHEN YOU'RE YOU KNOW, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND DRESS COUNCIL.
BUT IF YOU CAN POINT TO THAT VISUAL, IT'S.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A NICE THING TO HAVE BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU ON THE SPOT CONSTANT REOCCURRING BREAKDOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COSTS, BUT IF THE COUNCIL COULD COME UP WITH THAT BEFORE, I'M HOPING THE COUNCIL COULD COME UP WITH IT AGAIN.
AND IT'S JUST A SCROLL CHART TO STAGE RIGHT HERE, JUST PRESENTATION'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER WHEN YOU REFER TO HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPEND.
THANK YOU. THAT'S DULY NOTED, MADAM SHERMAN.
WHEN I THINK I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST FROM WHAT HE'S SAYING.
AND I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY CONTINUE DOWN THE SAME PATH.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THIS WAS AN COUNCILMAN BAILEY CAN CORRECT ME.
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THIS IS LIKE 2017, 2018 THAT WE HAD IT.AND IT ACTUALLY, FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE WILL GO UP TO SPEAK WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY DOLLARS LIKE IT ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR THEM BECAUSE IT LITERALLY HAD THE DOLLAR SIGN AND IT BROKE DOWN. THIS PERCENTAGE IS GOING TOWARDS CITY MANAGEMENT, THIS PERCENT IS GOING TO PARKS AND REC. AND WHEN THEY ACTUALLY LOOKED AT EACH HOW MUCH WAS GOING TOWARDS EACH PIECE, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE LIKE, WOW, OK, I HAD A TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING.
I REMEMBER YOU BROUGHT IT UP MR. BAD. I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T GET IT UP THERE, BUT I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENCY AND JUST CLARITY.
THAT'LL HELP OUT A LOT, I THINK.
THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK, RAISE YOUR HAND AND STEP FORWARD, PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME ANADOLU.
MIKE DAVIS, ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL WITH ODDISEE CHARTER SCHOOL.
JUST WANTED TO COME HERE TONIGHT.
AND FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO THANK PALM BAY ISD.
FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, THEY'VE BEEN FANTASTIC AND COMING TO OUR SCHOOL AND HELPING KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE. I MEAN, IT'S EVERY DAY WE GOT OFF DUTY OFFICERS THAT ARE WORKING EXTRA HOURS TO TO TRY TO HELP US OUT.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, ODDISEE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW NEXT YEAR.
OUR JUNIOR SENIOR. WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TWELVE HUNDRED KIDS.
AND WE'D REALLY JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR GUYS SUPPORT THIS YEAR IN HELPING US TO GET A FULL TIME S.R.O.
AND NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THE OFF DUTY OFFICER.
BUT HAVING THE SAME PERSON EVERY DAY JUST MAKES AN IMPACT WITH OUR KIDS.
SO AND JUST DEFINITELY I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS A CONSIDERATION THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS, MADAM, DID YOU INCLUDE THAT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR? NO, THERE'S NO NEW POSITIONS INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET.
AS WE'VE CURRENTLY PROPOSED, I HAVEN'T SENT IT TO YOU YET, BUT YES, AND WHAT WOULD BE THAT? YES, NO, AS WE GET OFFSET FUNDING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL HAVE HAVE CHIEF GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFO UNLESS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY HE'S READY TO COME UP TO.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, YEAH, SO WE ACTUALLY MET WITH COMMANDER ZANDER AND SERGEANT SCHRUM, THEY CAME OUT AND FOR THIS YEAR FROM THE CITY WOULD BE AROUND SIXTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND THEN OUR PORTION, 50 PERCENT OF IT WOULD BE SIXTY TWO THOUSAND.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT FOR THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU. CHIEF, DO YOU CONCUR OR DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ON? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? OK, COUNSELOR, I WANT TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN BAILEY HAS GOT HIS CALCULATOR OUT. I'D LIKE TO GIVE HIM THE FLOOR FIRST.
HOPEFULLY I'M READY TO GO AND I DON'T RAMBLE OR GET TOO CHAOTIC WITH THE DISCUSSION, I DID WANT TO REVERT BACK TO SLIDE 16.
ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE, I KNOW MS., ONE OF OUR AUDIENCE MEMBERS, IS CURRENTLY THE BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER AND NO, HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THREE PERCENT CAP.
ONE THING I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, I THINK IS EDUCATIONAL FOR HERSELF OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S WATCHING THE BUDGET IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP THAT NO, YOU THINK THAT IT'S THREE PERCENT MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR ON ITS FACE OVER THE CALCULATIONS, SLIGHTLY MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT.
SO IT VARIES BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT DOESN'T GET COUNTED IN THAT CALCULATION AND GETS EXCLUDED THE ROLLBACK RATE THAT SHOULD BE ESSENTIALLY REFLECTING WHAT WE HAD FROM NOW LAST YEAR FOR OUR CURRENT.
BUILDINGS ARE CURRENT TAXPAYERS, RIGHT, NOT THE NEW ONES, BUT THE TAX, THE CURRENT ONES, SO THAT. RIGHT. THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO ROLL BACK.
WAY IT'S CALCULATED THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE AS A PERCENTAGE, IF YOU TAKE THAT ONE POINT SEVEN, THE NOMINAL FIGURE, ONE POINT SEVEN THREE EIGHT.
YOU TAKE THAT FIGURE OF THE ROLLBACK AND THEN THE OTHER HIGHLIGHTED ONES AT THREE PERCENT. YOU TAKE THOSE TWO FIGURES AND LOOK AT THEM AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGETED.
AND EVEN IT'S ALL IT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH TIED TOGETHER.
IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE SIX FOR JUST FOR THE REFERENCE FOR ANYBODY WHO'S FOLLOWING FALLING LONG, SLIDE SIX, THE ADOPTED BUDGET, WE HAVE THE TWENTY ONE AMENDED BUDGET AND THEIR ESTIMATE, THEY'RE ALL PRETTY CLOSE TOGETHER BETWEEN THIRTY FIVE POINT THREE MILLION, THIRTY FIVE POINT SIX MILLION.
THAT'S THAT TOP LINE, THE THREE COLUMNS TO THE EXCEPT FOR THE EXCLUDING THE VERY LAST ONE, BUT THE THREE TO THE RIGHT. BUT THOSE RIGHT.
THERE ARE NUMBERS, YOU CAN SEE IT'S 35 THIRTY.
THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THIRTY FIVE POINT THREE MILLION.
SO THE POINT I'M GETTING AT, EVEN THAT ROLLBACK, THE CITIES REALIZING THREE PERCENT REVENUE GAINS. EVEN AT ROLLBACK.
WHEN YOU ADD IN THE THREE PERCENT CAP THE CITY, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THAT HIGHLIGHTED PERCENTAGE THERE AS A PERCENTAGE OF LAST YEAR'S REVENUES OR PROPERTY TAXES, YOU WOULD HAVE A SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE.
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SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT FAR GREATER THAN JUST THREE PERCENT, SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT BECAUSE I HEAR THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BEING A HAMPERING FACTOR, BUT I DON'T SEE IT AS THAT WAY.OURS IS MUCH MORE LENIENT THAN, SAY, WHAT THE COUNTY HAS.
THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE MUCH LOWER AND THE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE ROLLBACK THAN IT IS HERE.
SO OURS IS ACTUALLY MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE IN THE BIG PICTURE COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES.
THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE MAYOR TO TWO HOUR TO MS. SHERMAN OUR STAFF IS THAT WHENEVER WE LOOK AT THIS AND I THINK IT'S MAYBE.
THIS RIGHT HERE PAGE, IT'S COMPARING IT TO THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO COMPARE IT TO THE ROLLBACK BECAUSE THE ROLLBACKS ARE TRUE CURRENT STATUS FOR CURRENT PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE PAYING TAXES, RIGHT.
OR NO LIVING HERE AND CONTRIBUTE TO IT, WHETHER IT'S TO RENT OR WHATEVER.
OK, SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR BASELINE AND THEN REFLECT HOW MUCH MORE WE'RE GETTING WITH THESE THINGS. SO EVEN WITH A THREE PERCENT CAP, HOW MUCH MORE ARE WE GETTING WITH THE THREE PERCENT CAP COMPARED TO GOING ROLLBACK BACK? I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT WAY OF PRESENTING IT, AND I THINK IT PRESENTS AN AFFAIR AND IN A MORE LOGICAL WAY AS COMPARED TO WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY AT, WHICH I THINK IS THE REAL INTENT HERE, LIKE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY AT.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO COMMENT ON, I DO I DO BELIEVE THAT THE BODY CAMS ARE IMPORTANT TO SORT OF ANOTHER.
I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S KIND OF ON MY MY MIND A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I JUST READ ANOTHER REPORT OF AN OFFICER WHO NOW GOT SHOT AT BY SOMEBODY, I GUESS, ON SATURDAY, AND THEY HAD TO SHOOT BACK AND THEY KILLED THE GIRL.
RIGHT. 19 YEAR OLD YOUNG LADY.
AND NOW THOSE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER MIGHT HAVE BEEN JUSTIFIED, DID THE RIGHT THING.
HE'S BACK AT HOME, HIS FAMILY.
HE STILL TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
HE DID HIS JOB AND HE STILL HAD TO DEAL WITH IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE HAVE SITUATIONS AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN QUESTION AND THERE'S A LOT OF HEIGHTENED SCRUTINY, HAVING THE VIDEO CAMERAS IS IMPORTANT, I THINK, FOR THE CITY, THE OFFICER OR RESONATES FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.
I DO WANT TO ADD EXTRA EMPHASIS AND MAYBE I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S PREACHING IT FROM UP HERE OR MENTIONING UP HERE, I SHOULD SAY.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS, AGAIN, DASH CAMS, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO IF THERE'S A SINGLE OFFICER, WE'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF VIEW TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CHIEF AND THE OFFICER'S PRIMARY OBJECTIVE, BUT TO ME, THAT'S STILL ALSO IMPORTANT.
AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY AND FORGIVE ME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY HAS NUMBERS, AND I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER COMPARED TO THE BODY CAMS. I MIGHT HAVE THAT BACKWARDS. I'M NOT SURE.
I WOULD THINK THAT IT'S RUNNING MAYBE MORE FREQUENTLY TO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RUNNING 24/7. YEAH.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE CHIEF TALKING, IF YOU WANT MORE DETAIL, I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM OK, SIMULTANEOUSLY.
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ONE OR THE OTHER.
NO, NO. I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE BOTH.
YEAH. MAYBE THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MADE THAT EMPHASIS TONIGHT.
SO TO YOUR QUESTION, THE LAST THAT WE CHECKED WITH EXXON, THEY QUOTED US AN ADDITIONAL ONE POINT TWO MILLION FOR THE DASH CAMS. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO YOUR BODY CAMS IN TERMS OF PRIORITY.
IT DOES HELP TO PAINT A PICTURE.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH OUR RESEARCH IS THAT BODY CAMS ALMOST SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE, MEANING THAT PROVIDES MULTIPLE ANGLES BECAUSE MOST OF OUR CALLS REQUIRE MULTIPLE OFFICER RESPONSE AND EVEN OUR TRAFFIC STOPS EVENTUALLY LEAD TO A BACKUP OFFICER ARRIVING ON SCENE. SO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GET THAT MULTIPLE ANGLE AND THE DASH CAM ADDS THAT FIXED ANGLE WHERE IT IS HELPFUL.
BUT WE FEEL THAT BASED ON OUR RESEARCH, THAT THE MULTIPLE MOVING BODY CAMERAS PROVIDE JUST AS EQUALLY VALUED AS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
BUT I APPRECIATE THE PRIORITY OF ANYTHING ELSE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, CHIEF, SO I'M IN A I'M IN A RADIO PATROL CAR, RIGHT? YES. AND LET'S SAY I'M ABOUT TO MAKE A STOP, I, I HAVE ACCESS TO TURN THE DASH OR THE BODY CAM ON THAT POINT IN THE TRAFFIC STOP FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END AS I EXIT THE VEHICLE AND ENCOUNTER THE CITIZEN.
THAT WOULD BE THE MANDATE. YES.
OK, AND THEN SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT COULD SERVE AS BOTH A DASH CAM PURPOSE AND THE BODY CAM AT THE SAME TIME IT SERVES THOSE DIFFERENT ANGLES.
YES, THE DASH CAM IS IS A FIXED ANGLE OR ONE VEHICLE.
IT PROVIDES A VIEW AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS GOOD.
SO PROVIDES A PRETTY GOOD VIEW, BUT IT IS STATIONARY.
THE BODY CAMS ARE MOVING ANGLES.
AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DID OUR TRIAL, IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REALLY PIECE TOGETHER A STORY OF ANY PARTICULAR CALL THAT WAS CAPTURED ON VIDEO THROUGH MULTIPLE ANGLES. NOW, THE DASH CAM WOULD HAVE ADDED TO THAT.
BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT BASED ON OUR RESEARCH TO MULTIPLE MOVING ANGLES, PROVIDED JUST AS GOOD OF A STORY FOR US TO TELL.
AND MARY, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO, I THINK I WOULD AGREE THAT OBVIOUSLY THE BODY CAMS, BECAUSE YOU MOVE OUTSIDE OF THE VIEW OF THE FELIX VIEW
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POINT, A VIEW THAT THE DASH CAM HAS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT.AND IF YOU HAVE MORE OFFICERS THERE, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO ME.
IT'S JUST LIKE, AGAIN, IT'S LIKE THIS IS THE NEXT LEVEL TO ME.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN AND NOW INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE, AT LEAST EVENTUALLY, IF NOT TODAY, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE OFFICERS, THE OFFICERS BY HIMSELF, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE NO TRAFFIC STOP.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME AND WE SEE IT ON THE NEWS AND SO FORTH FROM OTHER AREAS.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THANKFULLY, IT'S NOT BEEN HERE.
WHAT WAS. LET ME ASK YOU THE OTHER QUESTION.
I GUESS THE TECHNICAL KNOW, THE TECHNICAL QUESTION PALM BAY ASKED TO COME UP WAS THE CALLS FOR THE BODY CAMS. THE BODY CAMS, IF WE SPACED IT OUT OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IS ABOUT THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER FISCAL YEAR.
NOW, WHAT WE FELT IS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING FROM NOTHING RIGHT TO BODY CAM.
SO WE WOULD BECAUSE WE ALSO FEEL THAT TECHNOLOGY IS ALSO GOING TO EVOLVE SOME MORE.
WE WANT TO START WITH BODY CAMS. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO ASSESS AND EVALUATE THAT, AT SOME POINT YOU WILL SEE ME PUT INTO THAT PRIORITY LIST, THOSE DASH CAMS THAT YOU SPEAK OF, BECAUSE ALL THE AGENCIES HAVE DONE IT. BUT BECAUSE WE KNOW OUR FINANCIAL STATUS, I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, COME AT YOU WITH WHAT I THINK IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
AND THAT WAS STILL MEET AN OPERATIONAL GOAL.
ARE YOU WHEN YOU SAY IT'S THREE, IT WAS A THREE HUNDRED FIFTY.
NO, THIRTY SEVEN. SO THAT MS. IN THAT THREE HUNDRED THIRTY RANGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE LIKE ARE WE FINANCING IT. WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL, ALL THE EQUIPMENT UP FRONT.
ARE WE JUST GOING TO BUY LIKE A FIFTH AT A TIME.
SO IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT THAT PROVIDES US FROM FOR EVERYTHING.
DAY ONE SOFTWARE, HARDWARE AND UPGRADES.
AS FAR AS THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES THAT GLASS STORAGE SUPPORT.
YES, UNLIMITED. OK, I UNDERSTAND NOW.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN BUT THE INITIAL THE INITIAL INVESTMENT.
WELL, YOU SAID AT ONE POINT, TOO, WOULD THAT BE REFLECTIVE AS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AS WELL, MAKE SURE I'M THINKING OF THEM APPLES APPLES HERE THOUGH ONE POINT TWO WOULD BE THE ONE TIME COSTS FOR OUR EXISTING PATROL FLEET.
AND NOW JUST SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE SERVICE KNOW THE MONITORING OF THE INCLUDES THE HARDWARE AND STORAGE AS WELL TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING.
YES. SO IT WOULDN'T BE ONE POINT TO EVERY YEAR.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. OK, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SERVICE CHARGES THEREAFTER, OK? UNDERSTOOD, YES, THAT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE AS I RECALL, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NOW SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AT DIFFERENT POINTS, WE'RE FINALLY GOTTEN VERY SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN FUND IT, TOO, OBVIOUSLY.
AND NOT NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS ABOUT OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ANYBODY OF THAT NATURE, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.
I JUST WANT TO SEE THOSE DASH CAMS MAYBE BEING A SECONDARY, MAYBE IT'S ONLY CERTAIN CARS GET IT. NOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IF IT MAYBE IT'S NOT THIS YEAR, MAYBE IT'S NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME.
THAT'S THE LAST ONE THING I HAVE ON THIS ITEM.
I APPRECIATE YOU PRIORITIZING THAT FOR US.
IT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
WE'VE TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT GRANTS.
HAVE YOU FOUND ANY, YOU KNOW, A REOCCURRING ANNUAL GRANTS THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR IN REGARDS TO THERE IS A GRANT OUT THERE THAT WILL BE OPENING UP SOON.
HOWEVER, THE PARAMETERS OF THE GRANT BARELY COVER THE TOTAL COST FOR US.
SO AND IT BRINGS WITH IT ADDITIONAL CAVEATS THAT WE MAY NOT BE PREPARED TO SUSTAIN OPERATIONALLY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE ONE GRANT THAT WE SAW COVERS IN TOTAL, MAYBE 200000.
AND WITH THAT COMES SOME OTHER ASPECTS THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO ADHERE TO YET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT HERE FOR US LOCALLY.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE IN TERMS OF PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ADMINISTRATION ISSUES IN TERMS OF REDACTION OF VIDEO AND PREPARING FOR COURT.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO ADHERE TO ANY OTHER MANDATES THAT WOULD MAKE IT AN UNFUNDED LIABILITY FOR ME.
HAVE YOU BEEN TO THESE AND I USUALLY HAVE A FEW.
NOT NOT NOW. I'M NOT FOR CHEAP.
YOU'RE GOOD. CHEAP. THANK YOU, CHIEF.
BUT NOW THE DEPUTY MAYOR WAS THE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP MY SHEEP.
WELL, ACTUALLY, LET ME LET ME KEEP GOING THE WAY WE'RE PAYING 270, FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT OF OUR STORM OF OUR GENERAL FUND TO COVER STORMARE LIABILITY.
I SEE THIS IS STILL A ISSUE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ANYMORE ON THE TAX BILL IS A UTILITY FEE.
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AND SO WE'RE STILL BEING OBLIGATED.THIS IS NOT AN OBLIGATION WE HAD PRIOR TO SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
IT IS A. WE CHARGE WE CHARGED EVERYBODY WITH YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU GOT NO STORMWATER SERVICE, YOU GOT CHARGED, I THINK WHAT WE GOT WHENEVER WE HAD THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, WE HAD A BIG BACKLASH AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE MINISTERS, FOR INSTANCE, COME UP.
THAT WAS A BIG PARTY, THE MOST VOCAL GROUP SAYING, OH, LOOK AT THIS BILL WE'RE ABOUT TO RECEIVE. BUT THE BILL WASN'T REALLY ABNORMAL.
WHAT WAS ABNORMAL IS THAT WE TRIPLED IT.
WE TRIPLED THEIR STORMWATER FEE THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY THE BIG ISSUE.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS A IS A HARD HARDSHIP FOR A LOT OF FOLKS.
AND NO, NO, OUTSIDE OF JUST THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE COVERING WITH OUR GENERAL FUND. BUT NOW IS WE'RE LOWERING IT BACK DOWN.
NOW IT'S UNAWARE OF WHAT'S THERE.
HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED RATE FOR NEXT YEAR YET? I'VE LEFT IT AT 131 FOR RIGHT NOW.
WE START ONE SEVENTY SEVEN, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. SO IT'S ALREADY WENT DOWN 40 SOME BUCKS, WHICH IS A PRETTY BIG PERCENTAGE. IT'S STILL MORE THAN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN DOUBLE THE WHERE IT STARTED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION IS THAT I'M STILL OF THE EYE AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THOSE FOLKS AND I LOVE THE FOLKS WHO CAME FORWARD TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER.
THE BOTTOM LINE, MY HEAD, THE FEAR THING IS WE SHOULDN'T BE TAKING THEIR TAXES FROM EVERYBODY ELSE TO PAY FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND AND SO I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THAT.
THAT'S TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN OUR BUDGET HELP FUND.
POLICE AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHOEVER WE WANT, KNOW WHATEVER OTHER THINGS ARE NOT BEING FUNDED WHENEVER THE CITY MANAGER PUTS HER PROPOSAL FORWARD.
SO I WOULD STILL STAND FAST THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THE MS. SHERMAN AND NO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I CALLED IT, YOU KNOW, I STARTED DOING I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER. I WAS WANTING TO GET A HEAD START ON THE PRESENTATION AND START DOING SOME OF THESE NUMBERS IN REVIEW.
BUT I DIDN'T NOTICE THE HIGHLIGHT WAS IS A ROAD MAINTENANCE IN THERE AND IS.
AH, OR MAYBE IT'S NOT IN YOUR IN THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE IN YOUR INITIAL BUDGET.
OH NO. WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET, THE WAY IT'S BUILT ON THAT RATE, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN 750000 DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, IN A GENERAL FUND FUNDING INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE. WE ALSO PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM YEAR END INTO THE BUDGET.
SO WE'RE AT ABOUT THREE INTO THE INTO THE FUND OR ABOUT THREE POINT EIGHT MILLION, I BELIEVE IT IS IN TOTAL FUNDING IN THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING TO WORK TOWARDS SOME OF THE REJUVENATION TYPE PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT WILL START TO SPEND DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT NO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S NOTHING INCLUDED IN HERE IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET AS AN EXPENSE LINE, AS A TRANSFER OUT OF GENERAL FUND INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE.
THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH YEAR END FUNDING AVAILABLE, THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO LOOK AT PLUGGING THAT HOLE IS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CURRENT SCHEME OF ALL OF THIS, I HAVE ABOUT TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO PLAY WITH IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE RIGHT NOW, NOT KNOWING WHERE ALL THE REVENUES WILL FINALIZE.
AND SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA ROOM FOR EXTRA THINGS.
THIS IS JUST FUNDING THE CORE PERSONNEL OPERATING TYPE ACTIONS AND TO GO BACK TO BODY CAMS, NOT TO GET OFF TRACK.
BUT I JUST I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE BODY CAM, THE THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND PLUS DOLLAR ITEM ANNUALLY IS NOT INCLUDED IN HERE EITHER IN THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL, ACTUALLY, AS PART OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON THURSDAY.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING VIA THAT APPROACH AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE. BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HERE EITHER, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT I WAS THAT'S WHY I WAS BUILDING UP TO IS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT TO EFFECTUATE THE THINGS THAT WE THESE THINGS ARE DEPARTMENTS NEED. BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THAT MONEY.
MY MY PREFERENCE IS SEE THAT THAT BULK OF THAT MONEY STAY WITHIN OUR OPERATIONS, OUR CAPITAL. WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW FOR THE CITY TO OPERATE.
BEFORE WE GO, START THINKING ABOUT CREATING NEW PROGRAMS. I KNOW, LEAST FOR ME, IS I CAN GIVE YOU A QUICK PREVIEW OF IT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE PREPPED ALREADY FOR THE MEETING ON THURSDAY.
SO THERE IS A PORTION OF THE RESCUE PLAN THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO A CALCULATION TO LOOK AT WHAT REVENUES YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED BASED ON IT'S A FORMULA PRIOR YEARS, WHAT YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE LAST YEAR, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT NUMBER FOR US WAS ABOUT FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLION.
AND THAT IS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE THAT NUMBER YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE MUCH MORE REALLY IN TERMS OF FUNDING NEEDS OF THE CITY COMPARED TO THE CORE PURPOSE OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN IS ALL ABOUT FUNDING WATER, WASTEWATER, STORMWATER, BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S REALLY THE CORE COMPONENTS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING OFF THE TOP IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
TAKE THAT FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLION.
USE THAT FOR SOME OF THE VARIOUS CAPITAL NEEDS AND THINGS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONLY ONE TIME, THINGS OBVIOUSLY NOT LIKE RECURRING COSTS.
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AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS TO TALK THROUGH WITH YOU ON THURSDAY ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE REST. SO THAT'S THE PREVIEW.BUT I WON'T GO TOO FAR INTO THAT.
THAT'S WONDERFUL. AND JUST MAYOR, I MEAN, I'VE I MEAN, I THINK I'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT WITH ALL THE CHARTER OFFICERS, ACTUALLY, THAT NOW MY PREFERENCE IS WHETHER WE CAN THROW INTO THOSE PROGRAMS, EVEN THE CORE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WHETHER IT'S NOW WITH MR. LITTLE IN UTILITIES OR WHETHER IT'S STORMWATER, WE KNOW THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ACCELERATE THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN QUICKER GET TO THAT GOAL, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S WE'RE GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE PRIOR I'M PART AS PART OF THAT COUNCIL, BUT WE GOT FOUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. BUT THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ALL SAYING WE'RE GOING TO LOWER IT, WE'RE GOING TO LOWER IT WHENEVER THEY PASS TO INCREASE IT INITIALLY.
AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME OF THAT WE'VE WE'VE LOWERED IT, HELD HOLD LOWER HOLD.
BUT THIS RIGHT HERE WILL HELP ACCELERATE, GET OUR PROGRAM TOGETHER.
ALSO, IT TAKES A LOT OF THE I WOULD BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WELL, IT'S NOT I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE A MORE INFLUX OF PEOPLE PROBABLY COMPLAINING ABOUT SWELLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BECAUSE I THINK WE KIND OF HIT A LITTLE BIT OF A DRY SPOT. BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF KNOW, A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WOULD HELP.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS AT THE SAME TIME AS MY POINT.
BUT, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO BUILD UP TO BECAUSE THAT WAS ABOUT TO SKIP TO IT, BECAUSE THE DEPUTY MAYOR MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, GRANT FUNDING.
BUT THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF FUNDING.
AND JUST TO CONFIRM, WE RECEIVED WAS AT ABOUT NINE POINT FIVE, NINE POINT SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED THAT FIRST.
THE FIRST TRANCHE WAS AT NINE.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER OFFHAND.
AND I SHOULD ALSO SAY, IN CASE YOU WEREN'T AWARE, ORIGINALLY WE WERE TOLD WE WERE GOING TO GET ABOUT NINETEEN POINT FOUR MILLION.
THE NUMBERS COME DOWN TO JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER LIKE EIGHTEEN POINT ONE.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY RECALCULATED.
I DON'T KNOW. THEY GOT ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AT THE FEDERAL FEDERAL LEVEL.
EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR PIECE. I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD DID YOU MENTION ARE NO, WE JUST WHENEVER OUR MINIMUM RESERVE BALANCE THAT WE WERE OUR POLICY ON THAT.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, WAS THAT I DON'T THINK I CAUGHT THAT IN THE SLIDE.
I APOLOGIZE. THE MINIMUM, I MEAN, BUT THE MINIMUM FOR 2020 IS WHAT WE PUT ON HERE, THAT'S ABOUT SIX POINT SEVEN MILLION. THAT'S ACCORDING TO OUR AUDITING PURPOSES, CORRECT? THAT'S NOT OUR INTERNAL REMEMBER, WE JUST WERE NERVOUS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN JANUARY WITH THIS NEW BOARD, WE TALKED WE JUST DISCUSSED IN PRETTY GOOD DETAIL, ACTUALLY, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND WHERE WE'RE AT IN RELATION TO THAT? WE ACTUALLY I WAS BRINGING HOME TANGELA A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND BRINGING LARRY UP TO SPEED. BUT WE I DID NOT LOOK AT THAT NUMBER YET.
YOU HAVE THAT, ANGELICA? NO. WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO PULL THAT FOR YOU.
WELL, I DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WATCHING IT, BECAUSE TO ME, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED LIKE THAT TO ME SHOULD BE WHAT'S STICKING OUT. LIKE, HERE'S WHAT WE JUST AGREED TO IN JANUARY.
AND DO WE HAVE THAT? I DON'T DISAGREE. AND ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS ACTUALLY FINDING A WAY TO SHOW IT IN ONE OF OUR COLUMNS OR SOMETHING GOING FORWARD.
SO IT'S REFLECTED THERE AND UP AND OUT KIND OF ITEM.
I THINK WE CALLED IT THE STABILIZATION RESERVE COMPONENT OR SOMETHING.
I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH 17 PERCENT OR SOMETHING OR NOW THE TWO MONTHS.
OH, YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M SORRY, SHE'S BALIKA COLLINS, COME IN TO THE PODIUM.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, AND WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE IS BASED ON FISCAL YEAR 2020 AND THEN THE FUND BALANCED POLICY THAT WE RATED IN JANUARY WILL GO IN EFFECT FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY TWO. SO WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT OUR STABILIZATION FUND.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE DISCUSSING INTERNALLY.
SO YOU WILL SEE THAT COMING FORTH.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT WHAT OUR ACTUAL OPERATING BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR WILL BE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT PERCENTAGE WILL BE BASED ON THE ACTUAL OPERATING BUDGET, LESS ANY TRANSFER HIS DEBT OR ANY CAPITAL.
AND I WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL OUR ACTUAL PROPOSED BUDGET GOES OUT IN JULY AND WE CAN HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST IT'S NOW IT'S OUT THERE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT, I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S ME, I COULD GIVE ME A CHANCE TO FIND A WAY TO STICK IT INTO INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT BE SOMETHING LIKE BODY CAMS OR STORMWATER OR ROADS.
I MEAN, TO ME, I THINK I'D FIND A WAY TO ARGUE AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH ME, BACK ME UP THAT THIS IS A LEGITIMATE EXPENSE OF IT AND TRY TO SPEND ALL THAT AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS ON THAT TYPE OF THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS SO THAT WE DON'T CONTINUOUSLY HAVE STAFF SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY WOULD HAVE A HUGE INFUSION OF IT.
SHOULD BE WE'D BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT TO ME THAT WOULD BRING A LOT OF SNOW, A LOT OF NO ENERGY AND A LOT OF IT WOULD REALLY BRIGHTEN UP THE CITY.
I THINK IN OUR DEPARTMENTS AND OPERATIONS.
I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT THURSDAY.
SO I RESERVE THAT TO THEN I'LL JUST FINISH THIS FINAL REMINDER ON THE ROAD BOND IS NOW,
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YOU KNOW, WAS ABOUT ONE POINT THREE SOMETHING.I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROACHING WHEN WE GET THE THIRD DRAW, THE THIRD AND FINAL DRAW OF THE ROBOT TO MILNES.
TWO MILLS IS A LOT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND NO, IT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY BREAK DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER TIME AS WE EXPAND OUR OVERALL TAX BASE, THAT PERCENT THAT THAT NUMBER SHOULD COME DOWN.
SO EVEN IF WE LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAY TONIGHT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW.
WE KNOW WE PREFER A ROLLBACK OR PREFER SOMETHING BELOW ROLLBACK.
TAXPAYERS ARE STILL GOING TO SEE TAX INCREASES ON THEIR TAX BILL THIS YEAR AND MOST LIKELY NEXT YEAR, ASSUMING WE GET THE NEXT ROUND IF WE WIN THE NEXT TAX YEAR OR NOT.
BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETIME SOON, IF NOT NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER.
SO THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE TAX BILL AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE NOW.
WE CAN WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK BACK AND SAY, WELL, PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT AND KIND OF WASH YOUR HANDS OF IT. NOW, THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM.
THEY VOTED NO. PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT.
BUT TO DO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW, ESPECIALLY NEWER RESIDENTS WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THEIR SAVE OUR HOMES REALLY KICKING THE FACT.
LET ME HAVE YOU BEEN HERE FOR 20, 30 YEARS? THAT NUMBER IS PRETTY MINIMAL.
IF YOU JUST MOVED HERE LAST YEAR TO YEAR BEFORE.
IT'S A LOT IT'S A LOT MORE THAN WHAT AN INDIVIDUAL FROM 30 YEARS AGO WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS, WHICH IS BOTH YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO EVERYTHING.
THAT'S SOMETHING JUST TO REMEMBER THAT WE STILL HAVE INCREASED IT AND THAT MONEY IS GOING TO AN OPERATION THAT REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND TO BEGIN WITH. IT JUST WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.
AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KICK THAT ONE AROUND.
BUT IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE IDEA THAT WHERE THE ROBOT MONEY IS SPENT WAS STUFF THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMING FROM GENERAL FUND.
I MEAN, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE BIG IDEA.
AND SO SO I JUST WANT US TO BE VERY, IN MY OPINION, BE VERY CONSERVATIVE.
I THINK THE THREE PERCENT CAP ADDS A LOT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE PUTTING I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN SIDE, WHAT WE WHAT OUR OVERALL VISION IS AND GIVE THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIT WHAT THEY CAN INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I STAND.
SO MUCH MAYOR AND ALWAYS APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN, BAILEY WORTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND HISTORY OF THIS DIFFERENT AREA OF THE OF THE BUSINESS.
I WILL START WITH THAT, I'M VERY ENCOURAGED TO SEE THAT WE ALL FEEL WE'RE MAKING CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN AS WE ARE PUTTING A BIG EMPHASIS ON THAT.
PUT ASIDE A LOT OF FOCUS ON THAT AS A AS A MAJOR PRIORITY.
AND AS I MENTIONED THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT MANY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ON ONE OF THEM, WHICH IS IT FOCUS ON IT BEING A FOCAL POINT.
AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE AS COUNSEL PUT ASIDE BUDGET TO TO IMPROVE THAT AREA WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL LOCATION IN TERMS OF SERVERS AND JUST IN CASE SOMETHING MAJOR WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. AND WE STILL CITY CAN KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP GOING WHEN IT COMES TO THE MILLAGE. I WOULD AGREE THAT WE I KNOW WE WILL DISCUSS THAT.
FURTHERMORE, I WOULD AGREE THAT TO STICK WITH THE SEVEN ONE SIX EIGHT WITH THE THREE PERCENT CAP. AND AS FAR AS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE THE CITY OF ORLANDO, I KNOW WE CERTAINLY NOT ORLANDO, THE WAY THEY DO THE BREAK, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT AREA, THEY JUST BREAK BY PERCENTAGE, PRIORITIZE SOME OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AND OTHER PROJECT NOT TO FORGET.
SOME OF THE THE REASON THAT THAT THAT WHOLE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN WAS WAS DESIGNED TO DO IS TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES, FAMILIES AND A LOT OF SOCIAL SERVICES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES THAT SMALL BUSINESSES THAT THAT WERE VERY IMPACTED BY COVID.
LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE TAKE THESE ASPECTS IN CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVE ISSUES WITH HOMELESSNESS.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CITY FOR YEARS, WE GO ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THAT? WE ARE THE LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTY, MOST POPULOUS CITY IN THE COUNTY.
BUT BY FAR WE ARE WE HAVE NO PLAN.
AND OFTENTIMES I KNOW IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE AN ISSUE WHERE GOVERNMENT PLUS CHURCH PLUS BUSINESSES SIT DOWN AND WILL THEY FIND A OVERALL SOLUTION.
BUT I THINK THAT MAY PRESENT A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, USE SOME OF THAT OR
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AT LEAST GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT AS WE PLAN.AND THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY? ROAD MAINTENANCE, I WOULD JOIN COUNCILMAN BAILEY THERE.
I THINK WE SHOULD PAY A LOT MORE ATTENTION TO THIS.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHY IS IT NOT A LINE ITEM? NO BUDGET. THINK ABOUT SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY, 150 MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR US TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY.
SO I THINK WE GOT TO REALLY GIVE GIVE IT SOME SERIOUS CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF MAKE IT MORE OF A PRIORITY. I KNOW WE MAKING STRIVE.
WE WE HAVE WE'RE PUTTING FUNDS ASIDE, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE OF A PRIORITY IN TERMS OF MAKING A LINE ITEM ON A WALL.
BUT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX, I WANT TO GIVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AT THIS TIME. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THANK YOU, MR.. WE SAW MY FAMILY.
I'M NOT A FAN OF THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
AND I SAID THAT WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING AND I'VE BEEN TRAINING FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS BECAUSE, ONE, THE HANDICAPPED.
COUNCIL MEMBER, THE COMMISSION IS OUR JOB IS TO PASS A BUDGET AND MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
I'M NOT A FAN OF THE THREE PERCENT TAX TO GO OVER IT.
I BELIEVE IT'S GOT TO BE EMERGENCY.
THAT. I'M ESPECIALLY WORRIED ABOUT MY GREAT COLLECTING REALITY.
I'M SORRY, SIR, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T MAKE THAT.
COULD YOU STATED HE WAS SAYING THAT TO GO OVER THE THREE PERCENT CAPITAL WOULD HAVE TO BE EMERGENCY. HE WAS ASKING IF THAT WAS CORRECT OR NOT.
THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER THAT KIND OF DESCRIBES WHAT WHAT THE CRITERIA WOULD BE FOR EXCEEDING THE CAP.
AND I THINK IT ALSO CALLS FOR A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OR.
YEAH, EMERGENCY OR CRITICAL NEED.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE SUPERMAJORITY.
MOST OF IT HAS TO BE ADVERTENTLY, AND I BELIEVE A PANDEMIC QUALIFIES AS A MERCANTI.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NO ONE TALKED ABOUT GOING OVER TO CAP.
SO ALTHOUGH I SAID I RECOMMEND.
THE ONLY REASON I'M RECOMMENDING YES, I WOULD LIKE TO STAY AT THE CURRENT LEVEL, BUT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL IS AIMED AT THE CURRENT MILITARY YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE HAD MONEY FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
OF GOING OVER THE CAR, WELL, WE HAVE THAT MONEY.
I MEAN. I'M SAYING THAT THE THREE TO THREE CAN EACH ON THEIR OWN, IT COULD BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND THAT WILL GET THEM AND THAT WILL ALLOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET A BODY CAM AND UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A FIRST SEPARATE.
UM, WELL, WE WOULD BE FUNDING PROPOSING TO FUND THE BODY CAMS WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY CAN'T FIT THAT INTO THE FISCAL YEAR 2002 BUDGET AS IT STANDS AT THIS MOMENT.
WE WILL ALSO GO BACK AND LOOK AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, THE COSTS FOR THE DASH CAMS. BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT IN OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE USE OF THE RESCUE PLAN FUNDING.
SO WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT TO ON THURSDAY.
WELL, THE TRUTH IS THE CUP WILL DEFINITELY GET THE BODY COUNT FOR THE OFFICERS, RIGHT? I KNOW WHAT I MEAN, I'M SORRY IS THAT THE THREE PERCENT CAP RATES, THE WAY THE BUDGET IS BUILT RIGHT NOW, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BODY CAMS. BUT AS AN ALTERNATIVE, WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE USING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING TO FUND THE BODY CAMS, BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN OUR THREE PERCENT CAP BUDGET CURRENTLY.
I WAS CONFUSED. YOU PLAY, BUT THIS IS THE CAP.
WE GET THE RESOURCE OFFICERS, RIGHT.
ALSO, THE THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS ARE ALSO NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT THREE PERCENT CAP BUDGET AS IT'S PROPOSED TODAY, BUT IF THAT'S ONE OF COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES, THEN WE WILL WORK ON THE FUNDING FOR FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AS WELL.
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RIGHT. AND THAT'S MY POINT.THAT'S WHY I'M NOT A FAN OF THE THREE PERCENT CAP, THEY DON'T GET WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
IT DOESN'T GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
THAT'S WHY I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT CURRENT LEVEL.
BUT I DON'T THINK MY COLLEAGUES WILL VOTE FOR THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST IF THE RATE AT THE THREE PER CENT CAP LEVEL AND THEN GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY HERE.
LISTEN, I LOVE THE DISCUSSION, MA'AM.
I THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD DIRECTION HERE.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE MY VIEWPOINT.
I'M EXCITED. WE'RE COUNCILMAN BAILEY ASSESSMENT AND EQUIPPING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO THE CAPACITY THAT IS ENVISIONING.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY ENCOURAGING COMMENTS.
WHEN I CAMPAIGNED, I CAMPAIGNED ON THE IDEA OF A FORENSIC AUDIT.
NOW, WHEN YOU HEAR FORENSIC AUDIT, SOMETIMES YOU SEE THAT IT COULD BE A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. BUT I WANT TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCES WITH A FORENSIC AUDIT BECAUSE ITS CHECKS AND BALANCES. SO I EQUATE A FORENSIC AUDIT AND PERHAPS COUNCILMAN FOSTER WOULD WOULD PROBABLY SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, BECAUSE HE'S HE SERVED IN THE MILITARY AS WELL.
A FORENSIC AUDIT IS LIKE AN IG INSPECTION WHERE THE IG COMES IN WITH DIFFERENT TEAMS AND THEY COME IN AND THEY EVALUATE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES ON ON EVERY EVERY ITEM, THEY INSPECT EACH AND EVERY MILITARY PERSONNEL WITH THEN UP TO THE UNIFORMS THAT WERE ISSUED AND AND HOW SQUARED AWAY YOU ARE WITH THOSE AND AND HOW HOW HOW YOUR SHOES ARE SHINED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SPIT, SHINE.
BUT EVEN MORE OVER THAN THAT, WHEN THE TEAMS GO OUT, THEY SHARE HOW YOU CAN IMPROVE THOSE SOPS, THOSE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, WHERE YOU CAN IMPROVE ON EVERY ASPECT OF SERVICE THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, WHETHER IT'S EVEN COUNTING NUTS AND BOLTS AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT PROCESS, THAT ENTIRE PROCESS FROM A TO Z, THEY COULD POSSIBLY GIVE YOU IDEAS OF HOW THAT CAN BE ENHANCED.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
NOW, WHEN I DID CAMPAIGN ON THE FORENSIC AUDIT, IT WAS AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE BY OUR CITIZENS THAT SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IN PLACE AND WE DON'T HAVE IN PLACE NOW.
BUT THIS WOULD BE A HIGHLIGHTED ISSUE, HOW THIS COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO APPROACH THAT, WHETHER IT'S A 10 YEAR PHASE IN OR, YOU KNOW, GIVE US I FEEL IT'S A DUTY OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN THE HOUSE OF THE PEOPLE.
THIS IS EACH AND EVERY FUNCTION OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE IN A POSITION TO WITHIN THE DECADE AS WE TRANSFER IN.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO LIMIT TO MY IDEAS.
I WANT I WANT COUNSEL TO ACTUALLY WEIGH IN AND SEE HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL THAT WE CAN OPPOSE THIS CITY INTO A GREATER STANDING THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS.
AND WITH THAT, WE CAN HAVE THESE CHECKS AND BALANCES.
PEOPLE COME IN INDEPENDENTLY AND SHOW WHAT'S OK.
THIS CAN BE A BETTER WAY OF DOING THIS, KEEPING THAT OPEN MIND.
AND PERHAPS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNSEL TO SEE HOW WE COULD IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHETHER WE PHASE IT IN WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, DECIDE ON THE SCOPE OF SERVICES, WHETHER WE WERE ABLE TO SAY WITHIN A DECADE, THE NEXT COUNCIL HAVE A GOOD PLATFORM OF THIS BEING A CONTINUAL BASIS OF OF DIFFERENT FACTIONS OF AUDITS TO GO DEEPER INTO CHECKING OUT OUR HOUSE, SO TO SPEAK.
SO I'M WILLING TO HEAR WHAT COUNSEL HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN INCLUDE THAT, IF NOT THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT CERTAINLY THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I REALLY FEEL BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH AN INSPECTOR GENERAL INSPECTION, I THINK THE CITY COULD COULD BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
I'LL GO FIRST BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNCILMAN BAILEY IS PROBABLY GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING WE ACTUALLY GAVE.
AFTER RECTION, REMEMBER COUNCILMAN BAILEY, IT WAS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF A MILLION RIGHT THERE, 50000, OK.
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I THOUGHT THE ESTIMATE WAS HIGHER THAN THAT.THAT'S WHAT WE HAD SET ASIDE IN THE BUDGET FOR IT.
I THINK THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS, THOUGH, I THINK THE ESTIMATE AND WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE I RIGHT FOR THE PARKWAY, IT'S A CITYWIDE CITYWIDE.
OK, LET ME CLARIFY, WE'VE SET ASIDE FUNDING COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY SUPPORTED DOING A FORENSIC AUDIT FOR THE PARKWAY PROJECT, AND THAT WAS A 250000 DOLLAR SET ASIDE ITEM STILL HELD IN THE BUDGET. WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING SET ASIDE FOR ANY OTHER TYPE OF FORENSIC AUDIT OF OPERATIONS, AS I THINK I SHARED WITH MEMBERS OF COUNCIL RECENTLY.
I AM TRYING BECAUSE I AM ONE OF ONE OF MY GOALS JUST OPERATIONALLY HAS BEEN TO LOOK A LITTLE CLOSER AT CERTAIN OPERATIONAL AREAS.
AND SO I'M NOT SURE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, MAYOR.
BUT IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OPERATING PROCEDURES, ADMINISTRATIVE CODES AND ACTUAL OPERATIONS, THERE'S A COMPANY THAT WE ARE TESTING OUT THIS SUMMER WHO IS LOOKING AT THREE DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL AREAS.
AND THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY THAT.
THEY'RE GOING IN AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY TESTING OPERATIONS, TESTING PROCEDURES, LOOKING AT OUR DOCUMENTS THAT GUIDE THOSE PROCEDURES WHERE THERE AREN'T PROCEDURES RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE GOING TO EITHER RECOMMEND OR CHOSE GOOD SAMPLES OF WHERE WE COULD GET SOME OF THOSE PROCEDURE DOCUMENTS.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKE YOU DO WITH IT, WHERE YOU TEST TO SEE IF YOUR SYSTEM IS VULNERABLE. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY'RE COMING IN AND TESTING IN THE THREE AREAS WE'RE HAVING THEM FOCUS ON THIS SUMMER.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT OUR PAYROLL PROCESS.
OUR FUEL PROCESS, SO, YOU KNOW, ACCESSING FUEL, THE FUEL PUMPS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR RECREATION PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU RESERVE A PAVILION AND HOW THE MONEY IS HANDLED AND WHERE THAT GOES.
AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FOR US THIS SUMMER.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE'LL GET A REPORT WHICH WE CAN SHARE WITH COUNSEL AND IT WILL TELL US THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
SO ON MY LIST, YOU KNOW, AS YOUR CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN TO START LOOKING AT OPERATIONAL AREAS, TAKE SOME, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR AS WE CAN.
THIS PARTICULAR EXERCISE, IT'S ABOUT TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO JUST TAKE THESE THREE AREAS AND HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND LOOK AT THEM.
WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE QUALITY OF THE REPORT IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A FIRST TIME TO KIND OF TEST THAT OUT.
BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY STARTING.
AND I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THOSE KINDS OF REVIEWS DO MAKE US STRONGER.
BUT AGAIN, LIKE I ANSWERED A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
I HAVEN'T PUT MONEY ASIDE IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR NEXT YEAR.
BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. YES, MA'AM, THAT'S EXACTLY PROCEDURALLY AND AND EVEN LIKE COUNT THE PENNIES, ANYTHING THAT WE TAKE IN ANYTHING FINANCIALLY.
SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT WAS DIFFERENT TEAMS AND THIS INSPECTION GOES AT THE SAME TIME.
I JUST BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT AND IT'S CLEANING UP THE HOUSE.
IT'S LIKE GETTING US IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT ARE WE DOING THIS CORRECTLY? BUT EVEN MORE OVER THAN THAT IS.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US HOW WE CAN IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING AUDITS ALL OVER AND SO THAT'S OUR RELATIONSHIP, IS THAT THE IG WOULD DO INSPECTIONS THROUGHOUT ALL THE BANKS AND WHAT ANOTHER BASE MAY BE BENEFITING FROM IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BASE IS NOT IMPLEMENTING. SO THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT I FIND THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND SO, YES, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF IF WE COULD SOMEHOW CONTINUALLY SET SOME MONEY ASIDE OR THAT PROCESS AND ENHANCE THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS AND HOW WE CAN ENHANCE THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I JUST REMEMBER THE COST OR THE PARKWAY, SO TO DO THE WHOLE CITY, I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE WELL OVER PROBABLY OVER A MILLION IF THAT'S THE CASE.
I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE PHASED THAT LIKE THERE'S NO WAY LOOKING AT THIS BUDGET, THAT YOU CAN JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO A FULL FORENSIC AUDIT.
AND THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, SIR.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT IT HAS TO BE PHASED IN, BUT SETTING THAT THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE PHASED IN SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUALLY CHECK OUR PS AND QS SO WE COULD CONTINUALLY HAVE THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES IS EXACTLY WHERE I'M GOING, SIR.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WHAT THE VISION IS TO HAVE.
LISTEN. WE'RE NOT ALL GOING TO BE HERE IN 10 YEARS, I WOULD HOPE TO GOD THAT WE'RE LIVING 10 YEARS ON THIS EARTH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.
AND SO IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TO EQUIP THIS CITY, TO HAVE THE CITY BE IN GOOD STANDING AS WE PASS ON THE BATON.
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AND THAT THAT'S WHAT THE OBJECTION IS OR THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS.LIKEWISE, EVERYBODY THAT SERVES IN THE MILITARY, YOU'RE YOUR HOPE.
IS THAT YOUR SERVICE, YOU WERE ABLE TO IMPROVE IT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHEN YOU FIRST GOT IN.
MAN IN COUNCIL, THAT THAT'S ULTIMATELY MY GOAL.
I SEE YOUR HEART AND I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT I MUST SAY THAT. I MEAN, FORENSIC AUDIT SOUNDS VERY EXPENSIVE AND IT IS EXPENSIVE.
I WAS ENCOURAGED WHEN MS. SHERMAN SHARED WITH ME ALL LAST LAST MEETING.
AS FOR HER APPROACH TO BREAK IT IN DIFFERENT SECTION, AND I KIND OF LIKE THAT BECAUSE TO ME, I THINK IT'S VERY PRACTICAL IN TERMS OF EXPERT MATTERS COME IN AND GET A PARTICULAR OPERATION AREA.
I ACCEPT THAT AND BREAK IT DOWN AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ME.
I THINK THAT BECAUSE ONCE YOU THROUGH AUDIT.
IT JUST WOULD BE BROUGHT ON, IN ESSENCE, PEOPLE ARE NOT QUITE AT EASE, I TRULY BELIEVE WE HAVE PROBABLY ONE OF THE GREATEST STAFF IN THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF FEMALE DIRECTORS FROM THE FOLKS THAT WORKS FOR US.
WE ON THE DIOCESE, IF WE HOLD A STANDARD, WE SET THE STANDARD, WE SET THE BAR CHECKS AND BALANCES, KEEPING THE THREE CHARTER OFFICER ACCOUNTABLE.
I THINK THAT RIGHT THERE AND CONSTANTLY STAY IN TOUCH WITH ALL PUBLIC, WITH THE FOLKS NOT ALWAYS SERVING A HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT THAT WE SERVING ON A DAILY BASIS, LET THEM TELL US HOW TO DO A BUSINESS.
AND THEY HAVE I CAN TELL YOU THE RESULT OF THAT.
WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH THAT BUILDING DEPARTMENT FROM TWENTY EIGHTEEN PRIOR.
IT'S NOT THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, I GIVE FEEDBACK IN THE PAST.
SO LET THE PRESIDENT TELL US HOW TO, YOU KNOW, CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS, HOW TO BETTER SERVE THEM. AND I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM BE GOOD HEARTED.
THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
BUT THINGS LIKE THAT FROM TIME TO TIME, LET SOMEBODY ELSE TELL US WHERE WE ARE AT.
I THINK WITH THAT, WE CAN IMPROVE NOTHING AGAINST THAT.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE WHERE YOUR HEART IS, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE.
AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY TO TO CONTINUE DOING IMPROVE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT OTHER ROOT.
THANK YOU AND I AGREE IT IS EXPENSIVE.
I ALSO BELIEVE OUR CITIZENS ARE WORTH THAT INVESTMENT AND I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
I GUESS I DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB OF CONVEYING THAT.
I'M PROPOSING THIS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S MY HEART.
YOU YOU YOU LIKE LIGHTS IN OUR AREA.
THAT'S THAT'S A PRIORITY TO YOU.
THIS IS A PRIORITY TO ME IS AS WE TURN THE BATON ON TO OTHERS.
SO I'M PROPOSING THAT MAYBE WE CAN START SETTING ASIDE SOME OF THOSE FINANCE AND I LIKE DIG DEEPER. BUT IF THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T WISH TO TO FOLLOW ME DOWN THAT PATH THAT I UNDERSTAND. BUT THAT'S STILL A PRIORITY FOR YOUR MAYOR TO MAKE SURE.
MAYOR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I WASN'T OUT THERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING NOW WHEN YOU TALKED INDIVIDUALLY WITH SOMEBODY, HOW YOU EXPLAINED IT? I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM AFAR.
WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I KNOW, YOUR DESCRIPTION OF FORENSIC AUDIT IN MY MIND MORE REFLECTS AN OPERATIONAL AUDIT WHEN I HEAR A FORENSIC AUDIT. AND I THINK EVEN JUST DOING SOME PERIPHERAL NOW, JUST LOOKING UP THE DEFINITION, MAKE SURE WE GOT TO FIND THE TERM.
IT'S USUALLY LOOKING FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
AND YOU KNOW THAT WHENEVER I HEARD AND I'LL BE I'LL JUST GIVE YOU REFLEXION, I GUESS, ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, WHENEVER I HEARD THAT, I'M THINKING THAT'S WHAT THE FBI OR FDLE SHOULD BE DOING. THAT'S THAT'S THEIR JOB.
I DID. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID.
I DON'T THINK YET OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN REGARDS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BUT THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE KEY ACCESS TO WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
IF SOMEBODY STOLE FROM THE CITY, PEOPLE WANT THEM TO BE ARRESTED.
I THINK THERE'S A HUGE OSOBA A REFLECTION FROM OUR CITIZENRY THAT IF THAT OCCURRED, THAT IT'D BE TAKEN CARE OF AND PROSECUTED.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT AT LEAST WHEN I HEARD IT, WHEN I HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
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THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.THE PROBLEM IS THAT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE IF THAT OCCURRED.
RIGHT. WE ARE OPERATING ON A PRESUMPTION THAT MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED OR I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS.
IF THAT OCCURRED, THEN A LOT OF THE STUFF, MY OPINION, A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WOULD HAVE BEEN THROUGH PRIVATE BANK ACCOUNTS.
THE CITY HAS NO WE NO, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ABILITY, NOR WOULD A OUTSIDE PERSON WORKING FOR US HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT FDLE CAN DO.
AND AND, OF COURSE, I ENCOURAGE THEIR INVESTIGATORS.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPEN, LOOK AT IT.
LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE SITTING ON THE DAIS.
LOOK AT ALL THE CHARTER OFFICERS.
LOOK, ALL KEY STAFF MEMBERS SUBPOENA THEIR THEIR BANK RECORDS, SEE WHERE THE MONEY FLOWED AND SEE WHENEVER THERE IS BIG PURCHASES.
AND YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN WHERE A CASH CAME FROM TO MAKE THAT PURCHASE BECAUSE THEY GOT A LARGE SUM OF CASH SOMEWHERE IT CAN HAPPEN.
I MEAN, THERE'S KICKBACKS THAT ARE NOW A COMMON THING THAT'S ON THE TIP OF PEOPLE'S TONGUES, NOT JUST HERE, BUT JUST IN GENERAL.
PEOPLE KNOW PEOPLE SKEPTICAL OF GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN.
RIGHT. AND THOSE THINGS WOULD NOT COME THROUGH OUR CITY COFFERS.
WE WOULD WE WOULDN'T REALLY SEE THOSE THINGS HAPPENING.
NO BAGS OF CASH OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, WE WOULDN'T SEE IT.
I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT HAVE HAD NO IF THEY HAD THE INFORMATION TO JUSTIFY GETTING THE SUBPOENA FROM A JUDGE, THEY WOULD HAVE PURSUED IT AND GOT IT. SO WHAT I'M HERE IS MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE PUTTING A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
NOW, LET ME ASK YOU AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN THIS DOWN A PATH THAT IF THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, THE INTENT IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
BUT LET ME ASK MADAM SHERMAN, THE PROPOSED FORENSIC AUDIT OR THE PARKWAY AS AN EXAMPLE, IS THAT THE TERM WE'RE USING? OR AND IS THE FDLE INVOLVED IN THAT, OR IS IT A SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR AN AUDITOR? YEAH, SO THE FORENSIC AUDIT THAT WE INTEND TO PURSUE, YOU KNOW, THE DRAFT RFP SCOPE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LITTLE TOO LONG NOW, AS WE KNOW.
A FORENSIC AUDITOR IS GOING TO BE A COMPANY.
THAT WE HIRE SIMILAR TO HOW WE HIRE A FINANCIAL AUDITOR.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS A FORENSIC AUDITOR IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF CRIMINAL INTENT, YOU KNOW, AND SO THEIR FOCUS IS NOT GOING TO BE AS MUCH ON PROCESS AND PROCEDURE AS LIKE A FINANCIAL AUDITOR MIGHT LOOK AT.
THERE'S A CONCERN THAT SOMETHING WAS DONE WRONG WITH REGARD TO THE PROJECT, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND A TRAIL THAT LEADS ME TO SOME SORT OF ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, TO COUNCILMAN BAILEY POINT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE THE ABILITY FOR A FIRM LIKE THAT TO GO FORTH AND GET A JUDGE TO SAY, WILL YOU GRANT ME A SUBPOENA TO GO LOOK AT THE RECORDS OF A BUSINESS, A COMPANY, AN INDIVIDUAL? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT ACTUALLY WORKS IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM THAT TASK.
YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN INVESTIGATION OF AN FBI OR AN FDLE TYPE AGENCY.
BUT SO TO ME, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IN THE PIECE IT OUT, OUR FINANCIAL AUDITORS, THEY LOOK AT SOME OF OUR PROCESSES, PROCEDURES, BUT THEY'RE REALLY JUST FOLLOWING ALL THE MONEY ALL AROUND. WHERE'S WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING, FLOWING THROUGH THE CITY.
IS IT FOLLOWING OR ARE PROCESSES? IS IT FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, STATE, FEDERAL RULES, BEST PRACTICES.
RIGHT. HANDLE AND MANAGE YOUR MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE FINANCIAL ORDERS DO EVERY YEAR.
A FORENSIC AUDIT THAT WE WILL EMBARK ON IS ONE PROJECT, ONE FOCUS.
IT'S ALL ABOUT WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE THAT WAS WRONG THERE? YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, INTENT, MALFEASANCE, WHATEVER THE TECHNICAL WORD IS.
AND THEN THE THING THAT I THINK I'M HEARING YOU SAY, MAYOR, SO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION IS IF WHAT YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS SOMETHING AS YOU DESCRIBED, LIKE WHAT THE IG DOES, AND IT'S MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL TYPE AUDIT AND THAT'S DIGGING INTO WHAT ARE OUR PROCEDURES AND OUR PROCESSES AND ARE WE FOLLOWING THEM OR ARE WE NOT? AND ARE THERE BREAK DOWN? WHAT CAN WE IMPROVE? SO THAT IS THAT EXAMPLE IS THE COMPANY THAT I HIRED THIS SUMMER TO START DOING THAT FOR US IN JUST THREE SPECIFIC AREAS.
AND THAT'S A 25000 DOLLAR COST ESTIMATE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE COMMIT TO DO AS WE GO FORWARD EACH BUDGET YEAR.
FIND A COUPLE OF AREAS, A FEW AREAS.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS IT WOULD TAKE US, BUT DIG IN AND SEE OPERATIONALLY WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER, BECAUSE THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.
I THINK THAT'S BEFORE ALL OF US IS TO SEE HOW WE CAN TIGHTEN UP EVERYTHING THAT WE DO SO THAT WE ARE STRONGER FOR THE FUTURE AND WE ALL LEAVE IT BETTER THAN WE FOUND IT.
BUT BUT YOU KNOW, MY REQUEST TO YOU, IF YOU ALL WANT US TO DO THAT, IS THAT WE DO IT IN PIECES, BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT IS I PICK THREE AREAS KNOWING THAT THERE WERE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AREAS THAT COULD HAVE A LOT OF PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN I'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT AND IMPLEMENT THEM.
AND I KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK US TO TAKE CARE OF 31 GLAC AUDIT COMMENTS.
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YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE STILL IN WORK, RIGHT, AND SO I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S THE OK, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.YOU CAN DO BETTER. BUT THEN I'VE GOT TO FIND STAFF TIME AND CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY FIX THINGS, IMPROVE THINGS. AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT RIGHT AND NOT JUST HAVE IT SITTING ON THE SHELF IS OK.
WE GOT A LIST OF 5000 THINGS TO FIX.
AND I YOU KNOW, WHERE DO I START? SO I THINK IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING DOWN THAT PATH AND WE CAN KNOWING THAT IT'S COST ME 25000 DOLLARS TO DO THREE AREAS THIS SUMMER, IF WE LIKE WHAT WE GET FROM THEM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SINK OUR TEETH INTO.
AND IT TELLS US A GOOD STORY OF THIS.
YOU SHOULD DO BETTER THAN I KNOW, BALLPARK.
WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST. IF IT THAT NUMBER DOESN'T WORK FOR US, THEN I'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, OK, MAYBE WE NEED 40000 OR 50000.
I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE WANTED TO TRY THAT THIS SUMMER AND HOPEFULLY IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'LL HAVE RESULTS FROM ALL OF THAT.
AND WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL.
AND YOU CAN SEE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE CAME RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN.
YOU SAID YOU HAD ALREADY WORKED ON THE SCOPE OF SERVICES OR THAT PROPOSED FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE INTERCHANGE. CORRECT.
TO THAT POINT, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT INVESTIGATIVE TALE IS JUST GOING TO FIND YOU CAN SUBPOENA THAT TIME UNLESS YOU, I DON'T BELIEVE, FORCE ME AND PATRICIA SHAKING HER HEAD TO. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY.
YEAH, OK. AND FORGIVE ME, MAY OR MAY, I WAS PROBABLY TOO LONG IN SETTING THIS UP.
SO WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET OK, THIS IS MY BEST TRY TO GIVE YOU A CLEAR THIS IS WHAT MY VISION OF IT IS. I THINK IT'S MAYBE EVEN WHAT SOME SYSTEMS VISION WHEN THEY HEAR FORENSIC AUDIT. AND I THINK MOST EVERYTHING THAT MR. SHERMAN SAID WAS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT I WAS SAYING THAT THIS IS WHICH WAS GETTING TO.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT OR WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL NATURE, WHICH IS EXCEEDING JUST FINANCIAL, FOR INSTANCE.
I MEAN, CERTAINLY MAYBE THE FINANCIAL OTTER'S MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE SOME TYPE OF INCONSISTENCY THAT COULD BE FRAUD RELATED.
BUT THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT, I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST, THE CROOKS AREN'T DUMB.
RIGHT? LOOK, I I'VE SET UP HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, SUSPECTING THINGS FOR YEARS. RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO BE WELL, NOW, TRY TO ARTICULATE IT CLEARLY BECAUSE I'M ONE HUNDRED PERCENT IN AGREEMENT AND HAVING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE QUESTION IS NOW, WHAT DO WE DO MOVING FORWARD? I THINK THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN OPERATION ON OR SOMETHING THAT'S ROUTINE, WHETHER IT'S A SERVICE OR A PERSON, THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND I THINK IT FITS REALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE RECENTLY WITH THE THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OR IF IT WERE CALLED FRYE COMMITTEE.
PROXIMITY NOW, WE'VE CHANGED IT A COUPLE TIMES, BUT ANYHOW, I THINK THAT THAT RIGHT THERE TO ME WAS A SMALL STEP TOWARDS A GREATER STEP.
ONCE WE HAVE FUNDING OF HAVING OUR OWN IJI, OUR OWN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL A CONTROLLER, NO IGY, NO, BECAUSE BECAUSE IT CAN GO BEYOND JUST PURELY FINANCIAL TO LOOK AT OPERATIONAL, LOOK AT ETHICS AS WELL.
AND I THINK HAVING THAT AND NOTHING AGAINST OUR CURRENT CITY MANAGER OR ANY CITY, ANY CITY MANAGER, JUST JUST LOOKING AT THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL, TO ME, THAT PERSON SHOULD BE SEPARATE. SO IF THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE MAIN OPERATIONS, THAT PERSON SHOULD BE SEPARATE FROM HER. SO RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE UNDER THE CURRENT CONSTRUCT.
IT'S A CONSULTANT WORKING FOR HER, BUT SHE'S GOT CONTROL OF THE OPERATIONS AT THIS TIME.
NOW THEY'RE LOOKING IN THE BASS.
SO YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT WORRIED ABOUT TOO MUCH BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FURTHER BACK THAN YOUR TENURE ANYWAYS. BUT IN THE FUTURE, THAT COULD BE A PERCEIVED CONFLICT, AT LEAST.
NO, I GET THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, WE'RE TALKING ON THE SAME LANGUAGE BECAUSE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TOOK THE INITIATIVE WITH A WHISTLE BLOWER.
THE TERM MIGHT BE LOOSE IDEAS, ACTION, BUT THERE'S STILL A FORENSIC AUDIT THAT'S ON THE TABLE OR THE ENERGY THAT THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT.
BUT THIS IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE AS A CITY MOVING FORWARD, IS THESE INSPECTIONS OR THESE LACK OF A BETTER TIME. HE'S ORDERED THE INSPECTIONS ON PROCEDURE, ON FINANCE AND OPENING UP THE DOOR TO SEE IF WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF PROCEDURALLY THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THOUGHT, MY GOSH, WE DIDN'T EVEN WE HAD A DEPARTMENT WITHOUT AN AUDIT. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.
AND IF I CAN ADD TO IT, SO I'VE HAD ME I THINK I THINK MS. SHERMAN PROBABLY DISCUSSED PRIVATELY A LOT OF THE STUFF WITH US AND THAT WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD A GOOD BIT, MAYBE NOT LIKE THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, BUT THERE'S OVER THE MONTHS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING INTERNALLY.
AND I TELL YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REFLECT UPON IS THAT NOW I GUESS MY THOUGHT WHEN YOU COME TO ME IS THAT YOU'RE LIKE HUMAN WITH JUST ONE BIG ONE, ONE TIME, ONE BIG AUDIT.
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BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OPERATIONAL AND WE'RE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE, I GUESS, BROAD THAN JUST A PURE FORENSIC, THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT PIECE BY PIECE EVERY YEAR BASED ON NEED, BASED ON MAYBE SOME OF IT'S RANDOM.OK, WE'RE JUST GOING TO NOW LOOK, WE GOT THIS RIGHT HERE.
WE'RE KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THIS THIS DIVISION OF THIS DEPARTMENT.
THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION, SOME EXTERNAL QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO PUT THOSE TO REST.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT ONE AND THEN MAYBE THE OTHER TWO ARE RANDOM BECAUSE THE IMPORTANT THING THEN AND NOTHING AGAINST OUR DIRECTORS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE NEXT.
SO FOR US, IT'S A LOT LESS CITY COST, BUT IT STILL HAS THE EFFECT OF THAT.
IN A MINUTE, THE INTERMAP TRY AND FIGURE OUT THE WORM LOOK FOR.
NO SCHEDULE AS FAR AS YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE POWERFUL BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE JUST DID.
BECAUSE WHENEVER BECAUSE I TELL YOU ONE BIG IDEA, I'M NOT REALLY FOR THAT, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, AT THIS POINT, I LOOK OVER THERE ARE DIRECTORS TABLES.
THERE'S LIKE MAYBE ONE FACE TO FACES THAT REALLY, REALLY EVEN NOW, EVERYBODY ELSE COULD SAY, WELL, THAT WAS MY PREDECESSOR RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD JUST SAY, OK, IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT OVER TIME, THOUGH, IT'S LIKE, OK, YOU'RE STEPPING INTO IT.
IT'S LIKE THAT. I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEDAY.
MY DEPARTMENT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SO.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN MY NAME'S ON THE DEPARTMENT, IT'S CLEAN.
SO I THINK IT HELPS WITH THAT.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, WE'RE RECOGNIZING THERE ARE SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE SAYING, HOLD ON, THIS ISN'T RIGHT.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE I WANTED TO GIVE BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO MAKE A VISUAL. I WANT TO GIVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER AN OPPORTUNITY, THEN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TO WEIGH IN. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THANK YOU, MARY. YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'M FAMILIAR WITH ISD, AND I WOULD SAY WHERE YOU WANT TO GO WITH IT, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
AND A CRIMINAL MIND FRIEND OF YOURS INSPECTION.
AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? AMY. WELL.
ALL RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU WANT TO GO WITH IT.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH ISD INSPECTION.
IS MORE OF AN INSPECTION PART OF A CRIMINAL PROBE? I THINK YOU WANT TO GO WITH MORE CLEAR IN THE BOOK I AUDIT.
I AND I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT TO GO WITH THAT.
BUT MY MAIN ISSUE IS WE STILL ON THE TABLE ARE STILL FINDING ISSUES.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE IT, I LIKE TO HAVE OUR GLAC AUDIT RIGHT NOW AND DONE WITH AND MAKE SURE WE OPERATE IN A PROPER MANNER AND THEN THEY CONSIDER A FINANCIAL AUDIT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I LIKE TO GET THE JOB DONE.
AND IF I'M WRONG, I THINK THE MORE THINGS WE NEED TO DO ON THAT OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THAT. CORRECT, YES, YES, YES, SIR, WE HAVE ON THURSDAY.
OK. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE COME OUT OF THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHER AUDIT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU DID THAT THERE.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT AND I APPRECIATE IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S. WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.
THIS BUDGET CYCLE OR OR NEXT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED IN SITTING DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT MORE, THAT IS THE.
THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
YES, SIR, THIS IS SOMETHING ABOUT SEND FUNDS ASIDE FOR, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THE FOR THE FUTURE FOR US TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH.
MADAM SHERMAN ALREADY SAID THAT SHE WAS BEGINNING THE PROCESS THIS SUMMER WITH A DIFFERENT AUDIT AGENCY.
I'LL LET DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WEIGH IN.
HE'S GOOD. AND YOU KNOW, THE FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL AND I AND I SHOULD HAVE WRAPPED IT UP THAT I GUESS MY CONCLUSION IS THAT TO ME, THAT AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THEN GIVING NO
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MAKING THE CLERK, THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE WAS ONE STEP TOWARD THE GOAL OF HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF THE INDEPENDENT IG BECAUSE A CONTROLLER WHERE EVERYONE CALM IT WOULD TAKE A FOOL. YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY SET UP YOUR WELL AWARE AND I THINK THE BOARDS WELL AWARE, TOO.I KNOW THE MAYOR CERTAINLY, AS WE KNOW, HAVING SERVED OUR COUNTY COMMISSION, THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS THE CONTROLLER.
FINANCE IS NOT WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER.
FINANCE IS WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR COMPTROLLER.
NO, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S NO, THAT COULD BE A GOAL OR AT LEAST HAVING THAT INSPECTION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ETHICS AS FAR AS LIKE THE WHISTLEBLOWERS AND JUST COMPLAINTS IN GENERAL. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FINANCIALS, BEING ABLE TO THOSE ARE EITHER SECURE, KNOW THAT PERSON, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURING, LIKE THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO DO THAT TYPE OF WORK AND THEN, OF COURSE, KNOW ANY TYPE OF OPERATIONAL REVIEW THAT THEY CAN GET.
HEY, LOOK, THE DEPARTMENT, CAN YOU HELP US IMPROVE OUR PROCESSES, HAVING THAT TYPE OF EXPERTIZE IN ONE DEPARTMENT? SO TO ME, THAT'S WHY I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT NOW TO HAVE IT COMPLETELY FORMALIZED AND TO MAKE THE BIG CHANGES IT WOULD TAKE THE CHARTER AMENDMENT, WHICH IS COMING UP NEXT YEAR.
RIGHT. OR CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WHICH TAKE A CHARTER AMENDMENT AND PEOPLE VOTING FOR IT AND GAIN SUPPORT, WHICH I THAT'S TO ME THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT THING.
BUT THE BUT IN THE TIME BEING, I'M OK WITH PUTTING SOME FUN SIDES, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A SINKING FUND, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST PLANNING AHEAD.
NO, WE'RE GOING TO PUT 10000 THERE, 15000 SOMETHING TO GET STARTED.
AND THEN NO, EVEN DURING THE BUDGET YEAR NEXT YEAR, WE CAN ADD MORE AS WE GO.
BUT THAT'S MY MY POINT IS THAT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU AND HOPEFULLY KIND OF LINES UP WITH THAT. THAT'S BEEN MY VISION.
WAS GETTING THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.
WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, AN IG, AN INSPECTOR GENERAL HERE, THAT IS A CHARTER REVIEW ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN THE PEOPLE HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.
BUT RIGHT ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, WHEN PEOPLE VOTE FOR THAT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EQUIP THAT INDIVIDUAL WITH STAFF LIKE THE COURTS.
AND THAT COULD YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST BIGGER GOVERNMENT.
AT THE SAME TIME. I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, LAY THAT OUT THERE AS WELL.
I UNDERSTAND IT MAY BE WORTH THE INVESTMENT BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM BECAUSE, WELL, OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU MOVE FINANCIAL, MOVE FINANCE, RIGHT.
IF THAT WERE WERE TO HAPPEN AT SOME FUTURE, I'M SURE MOST OF YOUR MANAGERS PROBABLY WOULD WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE. THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO KEEP THEIR FINANCE TEAM.
BUT BUT THERE'S ALSO, AS I RECALL AND WE HAVE TO GET MORE DETAILS.
I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING I'M FULLY UP TO DATE ON IT, BUT I THINK THEY HAVE SOME PART TIME OTTER'S THAT THEY EVEN USE, LIKE CPAS AND SO FORTH TO HELP MANAGE COSTS.
RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THERE'S WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE EVERYTHING, AS IS AN ADD OUTSIDE AUDITORS, THAT'S ADDING COSTS JUST THE SAME THING IF IT WAS NOW KIND OF INTERNAL.
COPY THAT. OK, SO THAT YOU GUYS HEARD MY HEART.
I'M ALSO VERY SUPPORTIVE OF STAYING WITHIN THAT THREE PERCENT CAP.
SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'LL JUST SAY THAT.
AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON SOME BECAUSE YOU WENT AND GOT COUNCILMAN? YES. YEAH, YEAH.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT A WHOLE BUDGET REQUEST BY DEPARTMENT, I WAS LOOKING AT COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IT ONLY HAD TWO ITEMS THAT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING REGARDING INDUCEMENTS AND INCENTIVES.
SO I WANTED TO ASK, YOU KNOW, DID I MISS SOMETHING? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.
SHE WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOT SHE'S GOT ENOUGH DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TODAY.
SO SHE'S GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
ALL RIGHT. PUT WORDS IN SOMEBODY'S MOUTH.
SO I JUST WANT I LOVE THAT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, BECAUSE THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT INCREASING OUR TAX BASE.
RIGHT. AND SO THAT FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT.
WE DO NEED THOSE INCENTIVES TO INCLUDE THE FACADES IS MY MY CONCERN.
I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE FACADE IMPROVEMENTS ARE CRITICAL.
WE DO HAVE SOME DILAPIDATED COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE THAT IF THEY HAVE THAT INCENTIVE TO MAKE IT TO BEAUTIFY IT AND MAKE THEIR BUSINESS MORE APPEALING, I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, I'M READY TO JOIN THE COUNCIL.
ALL RIGHT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.