GOOD EVENING. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING OUR
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REGULAR MEETING, 20 21, DASH NINE, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.ALL RIGHT, LET'S REVIEW OUR MINUTES, WE'LL BE ADOPTING MINUTES FROM A SPECIAL MEETING,
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TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASHERS SIX ON APRIL.TWENTY EIGHT, TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES? OCEAN TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES, I CAN ON FAVOR.
I. AND THEN SPECIAL MEETING, TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH OF SEVEN, MAY 11TH, ZERO EMOTION TO PASS THOSE. A MOTION TO PASS THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES ON TWENTY TWENTY ONE, 07, MEALYMOUTHED ALL IN FAVOR I.
AND FINALLY, THE REGULAR MEETING TWENTY TWENTY ONE FROM MAY 18TH.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. OCEAN TO ADOPT REGULAR MINUTES ON MAY 18, 20, 21.
DID I SKIP PUBLIC COMMENTS, I DID APOLOGIZE.
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I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, NON AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA? AGENDA ITEM? YES, WE HAVE BILL BATTON.ALBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, I HAVE TWO ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE FIRST ONE WAS SENSE OF SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WAS THE SOLAR FIELD AT FLORIDA. POWER AND LIGHTING HAS STALLED IN IN OUR FOOTPRINT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
JUST CURIOUS WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE COMING ONLINE OF FLORIDA AND POWERS REQUESTING A SIXTEEN DOLLARS A MONTH INCREASE ON THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, SINCE WE'RE GETTING OUR OWN SOLAR FILTER, THEY'RE GOING TO START AND WE'RE WHICH SHOULD BE UNDER SUSTAINABILITY, SHOULD BE NO FUEL TO BE NO REQUIREMENTS FOR INCREASING, IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINING RELATIVELY MODERATE INSTEAD OF INCREASING, MAYBE SOME INCREASE, BUT NOT SIXTEEN DOLLARS A MONTH PER PERSON OR PER HOUSEHOLD.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAY THAT YOU COULD PROPOSE TO THE CITY THAT THEY SAY, HEY. YOU'VE GOT A SOLAR FIELD HERE, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE DRAWN ON THE FOSSIL FUELS. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN KEEP OUR PRICES LOW INSTEAD OF SAYING, WELL, SUSTAINABILITY JUST MEANS IT DOESN'T COST US ANY MORE TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO RAISE YOUR BILL BECAUSE IT MEANS MORE PROFIT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
YOU KNOW, ME BEING A DOUBTING TOM THAT I AM.
THE SECOND ONE, I DIDN'T SEE AN ACTUAL COVERAGE IN YOUR PACK WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER RECHARGE AREAS.
SO WHEN WE TO REPLENISH THE WATER IN THE AQUIFER, WE'RE CONSTANTLY DRAWING ON OUT OF A HIGHER PERCENTAGE RATE THAN WHAT WE CAN SUSTAIN PUT BACK IN.
I DIDN'T. AND SINCE THEY WERE DOING THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A HYDROLOGIST OR A ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST, REALLY, THAT HAS THE REAL SKILLS FOR THE GROUND MAKEUP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ACREAGE AREA, THAT WE CAN BE PUTTING WATER BACK INTO THE AQUIFER INSTEAD OF AUTOMATICALLY JUST TRANSFERRING IT.
YOU KNOW, TO THIS TO THE INDIAN RIVER OR TO THE SAINT, TO THE SAINT JOHN, SO WE HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE WE CAN START SPREADING THAT OUT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
IT'S GREAT THAT WE GET RID OF IT DURING THE FLOOD, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT PUTS IT BACK IN BECAUSE WE'RE DRAWN FROM THAT ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND I DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF COVERAGE ON THAT ON PAGE SEVEN, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY ACTUAL TALK ABOUT IT TO SEE IF WE COULD SOMEHOW WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL, THAT THEY'RE ALSO AWARE THAT YOU NEED THAT IN YOUR PLAN SOMEHOW.
OK, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ENJOY YOUR PACKENHAM.
I WATCHED YOU GUYS. I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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BUSINESS WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING WITH THE CITY MANAGER OUR SUSTAINABILITY ACTION.SUZANNE SHERMAN, YOUR CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND TALK WITH YOU ALL. I WANT TO START BY COMMENDING YOU ON THE AMAZING PROGRESS YOU'VE MADE FROM WHEN WE STARTED AND WE WERE HAVING ALL OF OUR QUORUM ISSUES AND WE FLESHED OUT THE INITIAL CORE FOCUS AREAS OF THE PLAN TO WHERE YOU'RE AT TODAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS A PLAN THAT I CAN SEE US AT A STAFF LEVEL BEING ABLE TO WORK THROUGH.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
WE HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO WILL BE LOOKING AT THIS AND THEY'RE ALL THINGS.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU JUST AS WE GO THROUGH, BUT THEY'RE ALL THINGS THAT I CAN SEE US.
POTENTIALLY GETTING TO I MEAN, SOME WILL TAKE LONGER THAN OTHERS, IT'S TRUE, BUT THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS, RIGHT? WE'RE ON A JOURNEY, NOT JUST LIKE A FIX IT ALL TODAY PLAN.
SO. SO I WANT TO START BY THANKING YOU, BECAUSE IT DOES MY HEART GOOD TO SEE HOW MUCH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE.
AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS.
YOU ALL HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
I THINK STAFF OF OUR VARIOUS INTERNS WERE HERE TO THINK I WOULD THANK THEM TO.
SO I DIDN'T COME PREPARED WITH A FORMAL PRESENTATION BECAUSE YOUR PLAN WAS IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S IT'S VERY CLOSE TO BEING READY TO GO FROM MY STANDPOINT.
BUT I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF SECTIONS, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO DO THAT WITH YOU.
OK, AND SOME WERE JUST YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING BEEN HERE FOR EVERY BIT OF CONVERSATION. SO APOLOGIES IF YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED SOME OF THESE IN DETAIL.
SO JUST STARTING WITH NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS, LAND AND WATER SYSTEMS, ONE OF THE THINGS I AND FORGIVE ME ALSO IF I ASK A QUESTION, IT'S IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
I JUST MISSED IT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ASK WAS AND ACTUALLY TIES INTO WHAT MR. BARTON SAID, WHICH IS DID YOU ALL HAVE ANY CONVERSATION OR GIVE CONSIDERATION TO THE SAME WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING OUR RELIANCE ON SEPTIC TANKS AND CONVERTING OVER TO SEWER. DID YOU TALK ABOUT THE FOCUS ON MOVING PEOPLE OFF OF WELLS AND ONTO CITY WATER? AND IS THAT IN YOUR STOMACH? I MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT IS THE THING THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO TALK ABOUT IS A LONG TERM GOAL AS WELL, BECAUSE THE MULTIPLE LITTLE STRAWS ARE PULLING FROM THE LOWER LEVELS OF OUR GROUNDWATER.
AND WHAT THAT'S DOING IS THAT'S ADDING MORE PENETRATION OF WATER THAT HAS SALTS AND OTHER CONTAMINANTS IN IT. SO THE WATER QUALITY DEGRADES AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR PEOPLE'S QUALITY DRINKING WATER TO BEGIN WITH.
BUT IT DOES BECOME A PROBLEM WHEN OVER TIME YOU HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF LITTLE, AS WE SAY, LITTLE STRAWS IN THE GROUND, PULLING, PULLING, PULLING, OR SHE'S GOING DEEPER INTO THE AQUIFER WHERE THE WATER IS HAD A CHANCE TO FILTER DOWN AND GET CLEANER AND THEN WE PULL IT BACK UP FROM DEEPER LEVEL.
SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT.
CAN WE TALK? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? I'M OPEN.
TO SWITCH FROM SEPTIC TANKS TO CITY SEWER, AND THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
I THINK I'M NOT SURE HOW HE'S MISSED THAT AND BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT. SO I'D PROPOSE WE JUST.
AN AD AND SWITCH FROM, WELL, THE CITY WATER.
THE BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT? AND REMEMBER, I SEEM TO RECALL A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT WANTING TO KNOW HOW WHAT THE WATER CONSUMPTION WAS PER HOUSEHOLD, BUT WE COULDN'T GET THE INFORMATION BECAUSE OF PEOPLE ON WELLS.
PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE METERS FOR PEOPLE ON CITY WATER AND.
SO WE DROPPED THE ISSUE OF THAT, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN, IF WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE ON WALL WATERS, WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF OUR PER CAPITA.
WATER USAGE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IN THE LONG TERM WE'LL NEED TO ADDRESS.
I'M SORRY, DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT IN THERE, OR ARE YOU JUST ADDING? YES, I AM, BUT I SEEM TO RECALL HITTING A WALL BECAUSE PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK WE COULDN'T FORCE A CONVERSION TO A CITY.
SUEUR, LET ALONE TO FROM WELL TO CITY WATER.
THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF THE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE WELLS JUST FOR.
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I WARN YOU, SURE.I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS SIMPLY GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT.
I THINK THE WAY THAT THIS GOLD IS WRITTEN IS IS TASKING THE CITY TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE.
IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE'D WRITTEN IT TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO MOVE FROM SUBJECT TO SEWER. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SAME CASE.
THERE COULD BE SOME COMPLICATIONS LIKE FORCING.
BUT IF WE START WITH INCENTIVIZING AND THEN SEE WHAT THAT DOES, UM, I'M ALSO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT STAFF CAN DO WHEN IT COMES INSTEAD OF INCENTIVES.
UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT.
I'M IN FAVOR PERSONALLY OF OF ADDING THIS INTO THIS GOAL.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME INSIGHTS AS TO WHEN I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD CITYWIDE, BUT I'M GOING TO CITYWIDE.
IT'S FEASIBLE TO ACTUALLY PURSUE THIS WITH PEOPLE.
MY BIGGEST WERE AREA OF WORRY IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY.
THAT'S WHERE I'D SAY THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE REFER TO AS SCATTERED GROWTH IS HAPPENING WHERE BUILDERS ARE MOVING IN.
AND I'M TROUBLED TO SEE THAT WE HAVE 21, 22 MODEL YEAR HOUSES, IF YOU WILL, THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON BRAND NEW WELLS AND BRAND NEW SEPTIC SYSTEMS. IN HOW MANY YEARS DO WE THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TO REACH DOWN THERE AND AND HAVE THIS SERVICE TO OFFER THESE PEOPLE, LET ALONE INCENTIVIZE THEM TO GET ON IT? IT'S A FABULOUS QUESTION.
AND ONE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TACKLING A VERY DEEP LEVEL, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY.
SO THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THE CONVERSATION.
AND I GUESS THE GLOBAL OVERALL ANSWER IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS IT'S GOING TO TAKE US BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CATCH-UP TO DO THAT IS FOR SURE.
BUT TO START WITH, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE COME INTO WAS THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP TEAM IS THERE IS A NEED TO MANDATE CONNECTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED TO DATE IN THE CITY, AND THAT'S FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES.
WERE THERE AVAILABLE IN FRONT OF EITHER A VACANT LOT OR A CURRENT HOUSE? THERE HAS NOT BEEN A PRIOR DECISION BY CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WORKING TOGETHER TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON NOW TO START TO SERIOUSLY MOVE THAT FORWARD, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
THERE WAS A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL BACK IN DECEMBER, TWENTY NINETEEN AT A COUNCIL MEETING. THERE WAS A.
BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S CALLED MANDATORY CONNECTION, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT FOR THAT MEETING OR YOU WERE THERE AND IT WAS A FIVE FOUR VOTE NO, NOT TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON IT AGAIN THIS SUMMER.
SO NOW WE'LL COME BACK TO A COUNCIL MEETING HERE IN THE SHORT TERM QUESTION.
I THOUGHT YOU, UM, SO THAT'S SORT OF PART ONE OF WHERE WE'RE AT THE LONGER TERM ISSUE IS HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT'S GOING TO COST, BECAUSE CERTAINLY GDC DOES NOT DO US ANY FAVORS BY SAYING, HERE WE GO, LET'S PRE PLOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF LAND AND LET'S LET PEOPLE BUILD ON IT AND LET'S NOT GIVE THEM ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE START.
SO THE GOING BACK IN CHALLENGE IS HUGE.
AND WHILE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, HE IS VERY CONFIDENT BECAUSE INSTALLING WATER IS CHEAPER THAN WASTE WATER, WATER LINES, HE FEELS CONFIDENT AND I WON'T HOLD HIM TO THIS. BUT IF WE HAD MANDATORY CONNECTION TODAY OR WATER AND WE WOULD REQUIRE PEOPLE TO CONNECT. THAT WE COULD ESSENTIALLY EXTEND LINES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY AND PROVIDE WATER SERVICE WITHIN SOMEWHERE IN, SAY, FIVE TO SEVEN YEAR PERIOD, SO THAT'S FAIRLY RAPID. WASTEWATER IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS UTSAV LINES AND WATER UNDER PRESSURE, GOING THROUGH THE SYSTEM, ITS GRAVITY, AND IT'S LIFTING THINGS UP THROUGH THE STATIONS AND PUSHING IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
AND THERE'S JUST SO MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S. IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO INSTALL.
IT WAS DEEPER AND A LOT OF CASES, AND SO WE DON'T CURRENTLY EVEN HAVE THE FUNDING ANYWHERE NEAR BEING A POSSIBILITY RIGHT NOW.
AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE INVESTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OUR PLANTS RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, TOO, BECAUSE BUILDING THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE PLANTS. ONE IS IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AT OUR PLANTS, WHICH HAS BEEN IN SOME CASES NEGLECTED FOR SOME YEARS.
SO BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANTS.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS WE'RE BUILDING NEW PLANTS OR EXPANDING EXISTING PLANT CAPACITY SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MEET THE FUTURE NEEDS OF THE CITY AS WE GROW.
BUT MY HOPE REALLY AND A WRAP UP ON THIS IS THAT WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE SERVICES TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE THAT'S THAT IS WHAT A FULL SERVICE CITY LOOKS LIKE, IN MY OPINION. BUT WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME, WATER IS MORE ATTAINABLE SHORT TERM THAN WASTE WATER IS.
I THINK SO WHEN I LOOKED AT IT FOR ME, IT WAS LOOKING AT THE CURRENT AREAS IN THE SOUTH
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SORRY, IN SOUTH, SOME PARTS OF SOUTH EAST, SOME PART OF NORTH WEST OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THE CITY WATER AND STILL WON'T CONNECT.AND IT WAS MORE PEOPLE THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IN THE SHORT TERM, YOU CAN GET THOSE PEOPLE ON.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN TERMS OF I DON'T KNOW IF THE MANDATORY THING WILL PASS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL WORRIED.
BUT I THINK WHEN YOU INCENTIVIZE THOSE PEOPLE HERE IN NORTHWEST, IT WILL, I THINK, MOBILIZE PERSONS IN THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST TO WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
SO THEN THEY'LL THEY'LL THEY'LL BE APPROACHING THE CITY TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
I THINK IF IT'S ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN DOING IT IN THE NORTHWEST, AT LEAST WILL GET SOME ACTION THERE.
THAT'S A GREAT POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVES AS PART OF YOUR LANGUAGE IN HERE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BECAUSE THE HEAVY LIFT TRULY IS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE PLAN SO PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO CONNECT.
EVEN IF YOU CAN GET PAST THE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BILL, AS YOU KNOW, I ONLY PAY WHEN I HAVE TO PAY FOR DEALING WITH MY SEPTIC OR DEALING WITH MY WELL.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE JUST ARE ADVERSE TO HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE BILL FOR, YOU KNOW, A FEW PEOPLE IN A HOME IS MAYBE 60, 70 DOLLARS, DEPENDING ON USAGE.
BUT IF YOU JUST PUTTING THAT ASIDE, I MEAN, THE COSTS, TOO, IF YOU HAVE TO ABANDON YOUR SEPTIC TANK, IF YOU HAVE TO CONNECT TO THE CITY SEWER SYSTEM, THAT'S ONE COST OVER HERE.
AND YOU HAVE THIS OTHER COSTS OVER HERE THAT THE CITY SIDE OF IT WHERE YOU PAY IMPACT FEES AND WHAT ARE CALLED LINE EXTENSION FEES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES.
THIS WILL BE PART OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL WHEN WE COME BACK TO TALK ABOUT INCENTIVIZING, REDUCING PAYMENT PLANS, CUTTING SOME FEES ALTOGETHER, POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS SO WE CAN MAKE IT AS HORRIBLE AS POSSIBLE.
WE'RE ALSO SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT AND WE'LL DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL TOMORROW NIGHT POTENTIAL TO USE SOME OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING TO ACTUALLY OFFSETS SOME OF THOSE COSTS FOR THE RESIDENTS, MAYBE EVEN A GOOD PORTION OF IT, AS WE'VE BEEN INVESTIGATING WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO DO.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE A LOT OF FUNDING SOURCES, THEY WON'T FUND THE HOMEOWNERS SIDE OF THE ISSUE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO ANYWAY, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
SO WE HAVE SOME IT'S REALLY POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE.
AS IT READS, WE'RE ENCOURAGING THE CITY TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AND INCENTIVES SO THAT LANGUAGE, I THINK, ALLOWS ROOM FOR THE CITY TO DO THE WORK AND FOR US TO ADVISE.
YEAH, IT FITS WELL WITH WHERE WE'RE AT, I THINK.
YEAH. SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, INDEED, REBUILDING IN ALL THEIR WASTE.
HANDLED ON SITE. ACT POLICE HERDED INTO.
BUT. FIRST, THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE NOW, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY.
E.. AS A WAY OF MODELING WHAT COULD BE PASSED AS IT IS EXPENSIVE AND WE ARE BEHIND, AND IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT BUILDERS THE.
IN MANY WAYS. NOW, I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT, AND I KIND OF KNEW WHERE YOU WERE GOING BECAUSE I THINK YOU MADE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT VERY CLEAR, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW YET HOW FAR.
I DON'T KNOW YET HOW FAR WE'RE GOING TO GET ON THAT CONCEPT TO TAKE THE GEORGIA TECH BUILDING MODEL LIKE YOU'VE SHARED WITH ME BEFORE AND MAKE THAT OUR VERSION OF BUILDING IT. BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AS MANY TECHNOLOGIES AS WE CAN WITHIN OUR BUDGET, WITHIN THE MAINTENANCE ABILITIES OF THE CITY.
SOLAR IS A VERY BASIC ONE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT, I MEAN, TO SEE SOLAR ON THE NEW BUILDING I THINK WOULD BE INCREDIBLE.
YOU KNOW, HOW FAR I CAN GO WITH THE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHERE I THINK I'VE SHARED WITH YOU. BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD, I'M BUILDING A USE OF FUTURE NEW BUILDING RIGHT OUT HERE BEHIND US.
IT WILL HOUSE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WHO'VE OUTGROWN THEIR SPACE OR NEED MORE SPACE OR NEED TO BE RELOCATED INTO THAT SPACE.
WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY A COUNCIL AWARDED THE ARCHITECT ENGINEERING FIRM. SO WE HAVE A FIRM WE'VE STARTED TO WORK WITH, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, A DESIGN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'VE JUST LIKE STEP ONE MET WITH THEM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KIND OF THEIR SCOPE OR HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. SO I'VE HEARD.
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I'VE LISTENED. THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION.SO WE'LL SEE WHERE WE CAN GO WITH THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T MAKE UNREASONABLE PROMISES AT THIS MOMENT, SUSAN, BUT I APPRECIATE WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. LET ME MAKE ANOTHER SUGGESTION.
AND THAT IS. NOW, USING US, USING THIS GUY'S RECORD, SOME OF THE RESEARCH AND.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WILL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT IF THE TIME COMES IN THE PROCESS HERE, SO.
LET'S MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT STORY JUST QUICKLY, I WANTED TO GO BACK UP TO LET'S SEE, SO GO TO LOCAL BUSINESS EXCUSE ME, COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES A.
ACKNOWLEDGE FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND HOST COMMUNITIES.
I JUST WONDERED IF YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS A WAY TO DO THIS CITYWIDE VERSUS JUST AWAY COMMUNITIES. OR IF YOU WERE TARGETING THE HIGHWAYS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ORGANIZATION TO THEM.
OH, I'M SORRY, I'M AT THE TOP OF NINE COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE A OR TO A SCHOOL TO A YOU ARE YOU ASKING DO YOU WANT TO LIMIT IT JUST WAVES OR JUST DO IT A CITY WIDE? BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS.
ALL RESIDENTS. ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FOR FLORIDA FRIENDLY.
I MEAN, I THINK THE INTENT WAS TO KIND OF.
READ A LITTLE FRIENDLY COMPETITION BETWEEN SHOWS, OK, BUT ALSO.
THERE ANYTHING IN THERE? OR RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THIS IN THE EDUCATION, SORRY, BUT IN THE EDUCATION SECTION, WE DO HAVE, UM, A GOAL TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, USING SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO IT'S IN THERE. I HAVE A PARTICULARLY STRONG FEELINGS ON THIS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS WOMAN HAS WRITTEN WITH THE IDEA OF CREATING COMPETITION WITH HIS, UM.
I MEAN, WE CAN JUST MAKE ANOTHER BULLET WHERE THAT WOULD KIND OF REPEAT A LITTLE BIT WHAT'S IN THE EDUCATIONAL SECTION, WHICH IS NOT A BIG DEAL, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WOULD ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALSO DOING X, Y, Z.
IT COULD BE CONSIDERED PART OF C, WHICH DOESN'T SPECIFY, YOU KNOW, IT JUST FOR COMMUNITY TO REPLACE HER BREATH.
ZAMP. ALL RIGHT, SINCE THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES AS IT.
IT DOESN'T SAY IT DOESN'T WORK WITH GENERAL REGULAR CITIZENS, AND I'M GOOD EITHER WAY.
I WAS JUST MAKING THE COMMENT. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU GUYS, BUT.
ANYBODY LIKE TO PROPOSE A AN ADDITION THAT IT TAKES THAT INTO CONSIDERATION? YEAH, HOW ABOUT ACKNOWLEDGE FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, ENJOY COMMUNITIES AND INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS THROUGH EVENTS FOR BIGGEST PERCENT NATIVE AREAS, THE GREATEST NUMBER OF TREES PER DWELLING IN CITY AFTER COMMUNITIES AND INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS, AND THEN KEEPING THE SENTENCE THE SAME.
YOU DISCUSSION AND WE'LL START AND DO IT AGAIN.
WELL, LET'S DO AN ORDERLY DISCUSSION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT ONE? ALL RIGHT, I JUST NEVER GO BACK, RANDI.
NO, HONESTLY, I'M I, I RESERVE MY MY OPINION HERE.
YEAH, I CAN REPEAT IT FOR YOU, THEY ACKNOWLEDGE FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND HOMEOWNERS, ASSOCIATION COMMUNITIES AND INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS THROUGH AWARDS FOR BIGGEST PERCENT NATIVE PLANT AREAS, THE GREATEST NUMBER OF TREES PER DWELLING AND CAPTURE OF STORMWATER. THE OTHER DISCUSSION.
A CITYWIDE. HE WAS LIMITING THE HRA TO ME.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY, NOT BUSINESSES, SO EACH AND INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS.
YOU CAN ALSO GO AHEAD AND JUST GIVE BILL HIS AWARD NOW.
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REBECCA, ANY COMMENT? WELL, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. I WILL ADD THAT LANGUAGE, PHILLIP, ARE YOU CONTINUING TO BE A SCRIBE HERE? AS OF THIS MOMENT, I AM.OK, TO TWO LAST THINGS FOR THIS SECTION, GOING BACK TO SEPTIC TANKS, SO ONE THING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN I READ THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE.
AND REALLY IT'S TO THE POINT THAT I SHARED WHEN RANDALL ASKED THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE US TO GET SEWER CITYWIDE? SO KNOWING THAT THAT'S SUCH A CHALLENGE, ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IN HERE IS WHETHER WE TRY TO PROMOTE FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE BETTER MANAGEMENT OF YOUR EXISTING SEPTIC TANK. SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS REMINDING PEOPLE YOU SHOULD BE PUMPING YOUR SEPTIC TANK OUT EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR.
DID YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD GET AN INSPECTION OF YOUR SUBJECT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THAT'S USEFUL BECAUSE AT LEAST MAYBE WE CAN DO A LITTLE BETTER WITH WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY? I THINK WE HAVE GOODNESS, IT WAS SOME RIDICULOUS NUMBER, LIKE TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND TWENTY NINE THOUSAND SEPTIC TANKS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, LIKE TWENTY NINE THOUSAND.
AND, YOU KNOW, A HUGE NUMBER OF THOSE.
I CAN'T EVEN I DON'T HAVE LINES IN FRONT OF THEM TO GIVE THEM WASTEWATER TODAY ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME TIME THAT IT WILL TAKE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE GET MAGICAL MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR SOMETHING THAT LETS US FIX IT ALL AT ONCE.
OH, YEAH, JUST SOMETHING SORT OF BITTER FAILURE RATE, I DON'T BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ONLY REQUIRES INSPECTIONS ON THE CALLED, THE ANAEROBIC ONES, THE NEWER TYPE OF INSTALL. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OUT THERE THAT ARE OLD AND MINE AT MY HOUSE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN LIKE.
OR SOMETHING SHOULD KNOW THAT, BUT ANYWAY, A WHILE BACK, AND SO I'M ON AN OLDER TYPE OF SEPTIC TANK, YOU KNOW, I DO MY PART TO GET IT PUMPED OUT, BUT I'M STILL IN A SEPTIC TANK AND I DON'T LIKE IT. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, SO.
ANYWAY. UNDER MUNITY ON PAGE NINE, UNDER ALL THREE COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES, WE COULD ADD A.
AN OBJECTIVE TO BE OBJECTIVE E TO.
I WOULD SAY THAT, AGAIN, I WAS THINKING LIKE WHERE CITY WHERE MUNICIPAL WASTEWATER SERVICES ARE NOT AVAILABLE, PROMOTES PROPER MANAGEMENT OF EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS.
OR SOME VERSION OF THAT, SO, UM, UNDERGO THREE INTERCOMMUNITY OBJECTIVES, UM, B IS HOMEOWNER'S OR SEPTIC TANKS OR CITY WATER, UH, SHOULD WORK TO DETECT OR REPAIR LEAKS IN THEIR HOME WATER SYSTEMS OF CHOICE.
WE COULD MOVE THAT TO A CITY GOAL, REPHRASING IT A LITTLE BIT TO INDICATE THAT WE SHOULD BE EDUCATING SPECIFICALLY.
IT WOULD BE, AGAIN, A LITTLE REPETITIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OVERARCHING IDEA IN THE EDUCATION SECTION. BUT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, WE'RE OK WITH THAT REPETITION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT CAN GET IMPORTANT POINTS ACROSS.
I WOULD PROPOSE WE LEAVE THAT, BE THERE AND JUST ADD AN OBJECTIVE THEN TO THE CITY TO EDUCATE. HOMEOWNERS WITH SEPTIC TANKS ON HOW TO.
BENJAMIN. I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR EVERYONE ELSE'S OPINION.
AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT DISCUSSION? JUST TO BRIEFLY ADD AN ANECDOTE, THE LAST HOUSE THAT I DID HAVE THAT WAS ON SEPTIC WHEN I MOVED FROM IT, I HAD TO GET IT INSPECTED.
AND WHEN THE GUY SHOWED UP, HE RAN OUT OF HIS TRUCK WITH URGENCIES LIKE, OH, DON'T WORRY, MAN, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU WORKING AGAIN IN NO TIME.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WORK? AND HE'S LIKE, WELL, IT'S OVERFLOWING, RIGHT? I WAS LIKE, NO, HE'S LIKE, WHY DID YOU CALL? SO NOW IN HIS DAILY ROUTE, I WAS THE EXCEPTION THAT I WAS GETTING A MAINTENANCE CALL AS OPPOSED TO AN EMERGENCY CALL WITH THESE GUYS ARE USED TO AH, OH MAN, MY TOILET DOESN'T FLUSHERS BACKING UP INTO THE HOUSE AND IT'S BACK AND I'VE BEEN IN THE YARD.
THEY ARE USED TO THAT AS THEIR REGULAR BUSINESS.
THAT TO ME IS A GAUGE OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS POINT.
SURE. I FIGURED I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SHARE THAT WITH YOUR.
LIKE ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THAT.
NO, NOT REALLY, EXCEPT I'M JUST GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THIS ANECDOTE THING, BECAUSE LAST YEAR I HAD A SEPTIC TANK LEAK, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR.
SO I ENDED UP CALLING A PLUMBER AT A HOLE IN THE GROUND.
AND I'M LIKE, WHY DO I HAVE A HOLE IN THE GROUND? AND THEY TAUGHT ME.
SO, YEAH, I MEAN, EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL WOULD BE SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL, BECAUSE WHEN I SEE A HOLE IN MY GROUND, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IMMEDIATELY I MUST HAVE A HOLE IN MY STRATEGY. SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
I'LL DEFINITELY SECOND THAT BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.
YOU MENTIONED SOUTHEAST SOUTHWEST WHERE THE NEW HOMES ARE COMING.
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THESE ARE PEOPLE FROM NEW YORK CITY ARE NO WELL, NO CLUE.OK, WHAT DID YOU SAY? YOU KNOW, CAN I PUT THIS? HE SAID BLEACH WASN'T SUPPOSED TO GO IN BECAUSE I GIVE A LITTLE PACKAGE EVERY TIME TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR SEPTIC.
AND SO I REALIZED SO ABSOLUTELY POINT.
I MET. GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE SEEING THESE DETAILS.
IT'S A VILLAGE, RIGHT? REBECCA, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF.
YES, I PROMISE, THIS IS JUST A QUESTION, THE UNDER THAT GOAL THREE CITY OBJECTIVES F I WANT TO CLARIFY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A LIST OF SUCH PRODUCTS, WHAT WAS THE REFERENCE THERE? I DIDN'T KNOW. REFERENCE WAS A SEPTIC TANKS.
PRETTY SURE, RAY. I ALSO LIKE WHAT YOU WHAT YOU CAN PUT IN THEM SAFELY, IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? YEAH. SO REALLY, WE SHOULD JUST TAKE GOAL F AND MAKE IT CLEARER.
AND THAT WOULD ADDRESS YOUR OTHER CONCERN AS WELL, I BELIEVE.
I THINK THAT WAS. WAS FOR A CITY SEWER AND SEPTIC THINGS, YOU SHOULD NEVER.
BUT I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THE CITY PUTS THINGS OUT SAYING HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN FLUSH AND IT'S A VERY SHORT LIST, BUT THERE'S ALSO OLD IDEAS THAT ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T GO ON A LANDFILL LIKE OLD MEDICATION AND STUFF, PEOPLE THINK IT'S SAFER TO FLUSH IT THAN TO PUT IT IN THE TRASH.
AND, UM, MAKE IT MAKE IT WALK AND CHEW BUBBLE GUM AT THE SAME TIME, AND SO WE CAN SAY SOMETHING LIKE, UM, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION TO RESIDENTS TO HELP THEM MAINTAIN. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SEPTIC OR SEWER.
THE SITUATION, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT WE'RE AT IT A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT, I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THIS, THE SAME SIMILAR EDUCATION.
CAN WE JUST USE THAT? EDUCATION, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, LIKE COMBINE THEM.
SO INSTEAD, INSTEAD OF ADDING A NEW ONE LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, JUST MAKING F.
DO I'M NOT COMMUNICATING VERY WELL, AND I'M REALLY SORRY ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THE WHOLE WHOLESOME EDUCATION WILL INCLUDE THAT? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO PUT YOUR LIST OF PRODUCTS THAT DON'T GO INTO YOUR SUBJECT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE EDUCATION THAT WILL INVOLVE.
THIS IS JUST LIKE LIMITING TO US.
LIKE, OK, HE'S GOING TO PUT A LIST TOGETHER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF A SUBJECT IS A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO IF WE PUT I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD FORCE TO KEEP THAT LINE ITEM THERE.
IF I'M TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION OVERALL OF THE SUBJECT AND GETS TALKING ABOUT SEPTIC AND SEWER THINGS THAT ARE NOT SAFE.
FOR EITHER. WE EXPAND THE EDUCATION UP TO CANCER.
SO GOAL THREE IS TO MANAGE TO PROTECT GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES AND SO WHAT I'M THINKING AND JUST AN IDEA.
THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY WE SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE THIS THIS LINE FROM COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE AND MAKE A CITY VERSION OF IT UP IN THE CITY GOES, WHAT IF WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND WE CHANGE GOAL F.
TO BE LIKE THIS, A SLIGHTLY BROADER BRUSH AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO MAKE IT A GOAL TO EDUCATE ITS RESIDENTS ON HOW TO MAINTAIN THEIR GROUNDWATER SITUATION ON THEIR HOME, DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE IN SEPTIC SEWER OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS LIKE. WE ASK THE CITY TO TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN SEND MAILERS BASED UPON WHAT WE UNDERSTAND. RESIDENTS HAVE KNOW ALL RESIDENTS ON A SEPTIC TANK WOULD GET THIS MAILER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND AND KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE LANGUAGE IN THE SCHOOL HERE BROAD ENOUGH THAT STAFF CAN.
CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE REPETITIVE, YOU KNOW, OK, IN A SENSE THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE SECTION OF EDUCATION AND WE'RE. AS I SAID, HE DID DO THIS, BUT I THINK IN MY OPINION, IT'S OK BECAUSE I'M IN AGREEMENT.
I WOULD BASICALLY ELIMINATE F AS IT'S WRITTEN AND PUT THE EDUCATION OF SKEPTIC AND JUST ADD SUEUR SINCE WE KNOW.
TAKING CARE OF YOUR SEWER IS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST WHAT FLUSHES INTO IT OR TAKING CARE
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OF YOUR SEPTIC IS SO MUCH OF IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN'T PUT IN THERE. I THINK THIS LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE BIT LIMITING.SO WHEN YOU YOU MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL EDUCATION, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN SO THE CITY CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE ACCORDINGLY.
YES, SO I WOULD KIND OF ELIMINATE THIS THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN AND JUST INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION WITH SEPTIC ANSWER, USING THEM TOGETHER.
EDUCATE HOMEOWNERS ON PROPER MAINTENANCE OF SEPTIC SYSTEMS OR.
SEPTIC OR SEWER OR END AND OR SEWER.
DO YOU HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER? I THINK. RANDALL, ANY COMMENT ON THAT? NO, MA'AM. PHILIP.
ANY COMMENT, YEAH, I LIKE THAT EDUCATE HOMEOWNERS ON RESPONSIBLE WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT AND THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
OK, SO I'LL MOVE TO BUILT ENVIRONMENT, ENERGY AND BUILDINGS.
THE POINT ABOUT NOT BEING REDUNDANT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, I REALLY LIKE THE LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE ABOUT THE GREEN TEAM.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FITS IN THE GOVERNMENT ARENA, TOO.
BUT I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN.
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE TO IMPLEMENT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH DEPARTMENT WORKING TOGETHER TO EXPAND THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO THAT'S JUST A COMMENT MORE THAN ANYTHING.
JUST BRIEFLY, UNDER LET'S SEE.
SO IT WOULD BE COLD TO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES F, WHICH IS PROVIDE PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY OR PIECE FINANCING FOR ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES.
I WOULD JUST ASK TO MAKE THAT SUPPORT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE CITY DOES SUPPORT ALLOWING POLICE TO FUNCTION, THE CITY DOESN'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY PASS RESOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW PEACE PROVIDERS TO OPERATE IN YOUR CITY AND THEN RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS THE IMPROVEMENTS THE FUNDING GETS ON THE TAX BILL, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO JUST THE WORD CHANGE RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANOTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO THIS WOULD BE UNDER, I GUESS, MORE LIKE GOAL THREE.
SO A LOT OF A LOT OF WHAT'S IN HERE, I UNDERSTAND, IS TALKING ABOUT THE THE BUILDINGS THAT WE ALLOW TO BE BUILT OR THAT ARE THE CITY IS BUILDING DEPENDING ON THE CASE.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME OVERALL REFERENCES TO JUST DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.
AND I SAW THE REFERENCES TO TO LEAD AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING GREEN GUIDELINES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE.
MAYBE IT'S WHAT WAS INTENDED WITH THE PHRASE GREEN GUIDELINES.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT CURRENTLY IS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GREEN GREEN GUIDELINES, YOU'RE REALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENTS AS A AS A THING FOR THE CITY.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ALSO INCLUDE THAT VERBIAGE IN THERE AS AN EXAMPLE, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT READ THIS THAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT TYPE OF CONCEPT AS WELL. I DON'T WANT TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU SAY GREEN GUIDELINE, IT'S ALL THE ASPECTS OF ANY DEVELOPMENTS.
SO JUST SORT OF ASKING THAT QUESTION.
THE MYSTERIOUS SAMPLE WHERE YOU WOULD STATE THAT IN THIS MANNER, WOULD YOU ADD THAT VERBIAGE? WELL, I GUESS REALLY LET ME I KIND OF RAMBLED.
I'M SORRY. I'LL JUST RESTATE IT VERY CLEARLY.
SO IF CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE A WHICH IS DEVELOP A GREEN GUIDELINE PROGRAM, I MEAN, I KNOW IT TALKS. IT HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS, RIGHT.
IT HAS PUBLIC PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, WATER, ENERGY, BUILDING MATERIALS, POLLINATOR FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING. IF THAT GOES ON TO EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH STORMWATER AND.
MY MIND JUST WENT BLANK, PARKING LOTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THAT'S ALL INCLUDED, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY GREEN GUIDELINES, GREAT.
IF YOU WANT TO USE MORE COMMON NOMENCLATURE AND YOU WANT TO CALL IT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY YOU COULD DO IT, TOO, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT BY GREEN GUIDELINES. THAT'S REALLY ALL I'M ASKING.
SO IN YOUR SO LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, IS IT THIS YOU'RE ASKING WHETHER OR NOT WE THOUGHT IT WAS THE SAME AS THE GREEN GUIDELINES, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT BY GREEN GUIDELINES?
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BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, LIKE, BUZZWORDS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SUSTAINABILITY OR RESILIENCY, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS THE PHRASING YOU HEAR MOST OFTEN WHEN IT COMES TO HOW YOU DEVELOP IN A MOST SUSTAINABLE WAY.SO YOU WOULD PROPOSE BASICALLY FOR.
MORE COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT MEANS, GREEN GUIDELINES BE REPLACED WITH LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, IF IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS MEANT BY THAT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE THE SAME THING. NO.
NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO CHANGING THAT WORD, I WOULD JUST WHILE WE'RE IN THIS SUBJECT MATTER, LIKE TO JUST THROW OUT AN EXAMPLE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE ACTIONS THAT WE TAKE, HOPEFULLY TAKE EFFECT, TAKE A HOLD ON.
SO A COUNCIL MEETING AGO, THEY CAME FORWARD AND THEY SAID THAT AT PALM BEACH SHOPPING CENTER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK DOWN THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK DOWN THE EXTRA PART AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO REBUILD THE PUBLIC'S AND A LITTLE BIT MORE PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT THEIR STORMWATER.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GOT UP AND SAID IN PUBLIC COMMENTS IS THAT I HOPE WHEN THEY ARE MAKING A STORMWATER ARRANGEMENT, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR PLAN, LIKE DOING IT WITH NATIVE SHRUBBERY AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO PUT AND HOW DO WE HAVE TO WORD IT SO THAT WHEN THE SITE PLAN COMES ACROSS TO OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN SAY, HEY, GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COMING IN WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE YEAR 2002.
THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE DO BUSINESS.
AS FAR AS YOUR STORMWATER GOES, I SEE THIS BIG CONCRETE HOLE THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE IN THE GROUND. I SEE THAT AND I RAISE YOU THAT.
I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE MADE OUT OF NATURAL SHRUBBERY AND THINGS OF THE SORT.
WHAT DO WE GOT TO DO TO GET THAT DONE? GREAT QUESTION. SO A LOT OF THAT IS ORDINANCE CHANGES AND THAT'S WHERE THIS IS GOING TO LEAD US TO. YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE INDIVIDUAL LIKE WHEN YOU ALL AFTER NOT TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD, BUT ONCE YOU'VE ESTABLISHED THE PLAN, IT'S ADOPTED AND YOU START PICKING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON FIRST, SECOND, THIRD.
THAT MAY VERY WELL BE ONE OF THE BEST PLACES FOR YOU ALL TO START, WHICH IS TACKLING SPECIFIC ORDINANCES, RECOMMENDING CHANGES.
WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF, RUN THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THAT WILL CHANGE. SO, I MEAN, DON'T GET ME WRONG, SOME BUILDERS WILL JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. THAT'S NICE.
SOMETIMES OUR STAFF, DEPENDING ON WHO'S INVOLVED, WILL.
ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THING AS WELL, YOU KNOW, BUT IF IT'S NOT A MANDATE AND AN ORDINANCE OR THEY DON'T GET SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE FOR DOING IT.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET DONE, SO I'M SURE WITH THAT ANSWER, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO WRITE PROPOSED ORDINANCES, WE'RE GOING TO WRITE IN THE INTEREST OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED TO IN THE INTEREST OF GREEN GUIDELINES.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE FLOW TO IT, A LOT MORE OF A SELLABLE THING TO WHETHER THE COUNCIL OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
SO, YEAH, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FOR ME.
I'M IN AGREEMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, I THINK THAT'S REALLY POINTED IN ITS REALLY GOOD DIRECTION.
AND I'M EXCITED TO START LOOKING AT SOME ORDINANCES, WHICH IS A SENTENCE I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE. YEAH, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE TERMINOLOGY, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT NOW, I SEE GREEN LIGHT WITH GUIDELINES AS IT'S LIKE OUT THERE WHAT REALLY IS. SO THIS GIVES YOU A MORE POIGNANT, YOU KNOW, VERBIAGE THAT PROBABLY IS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND BY DEVELOPERS.
OK WITH IT. VERY MUCH IN FAVOR IT AND GOOD WE SO WE DON'T FORGET, ADD RIGHT NOW TO OUR EXPANSION PLAN ABOUT ORDINANCES AND MAKE IT VERY CONCRETE AND DOABLE IN.
LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE THAT WE CHANGE ALL THREE AND FROM THE WORD SMART TO LOW IMPACT, SUSTAINABLE RESILIENCE, RESILIENT CITY PLANNING.
THE OBJECTION TO CHANGING THE WORD SMART TO LOW-IMPACT.
I JUST WANT TO ADD, BECAUSE I CAN'T HELP MYSELF, THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL, WE'RE MEETING WITH DR. LISA SOTO AND SHE TOLD US A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BUT SHE DIDN'T KNOW SHE'S ACTUALLY PUTTING TOGETHER A WHOLE LIKE SEMINAR.
IS THAT A DAY LONG OR SOMETHING ON LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT? IT'S LIKE OCTOBER OR SEPTEMBER ANYWAY.
WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S BRINGING TOGETHER LIKE 12 SPEAKERS WHO ARE EXPERTS FROM AROUND THE STATE OR SOMETHING.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU OK, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, TOO.
I'M STILL UNDERGOING THREE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES.
E! I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT THIS MEANT WHEN YOU SAY ESTABLISH AN AUDIT PROGRAM THROUGH FACILITIES AND SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT BUDGETED UPGRADES ARE SPENT ON THE APPROVED ITEMS. IT'S BEEN A. I'M SORRY YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS, SO.
AND THE PERSON THAT WROTE IT, I'M QUITE SURE, IS NOT THE BOARD ANYMORE, SO WHAT THE
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INTENT MAY HAVE BEEN ON THAT.SO TELL US YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
WELL, IT WAS JUST A FAIRLY BROAD AND I WASN'T SURE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE SOMETHING IN THE PLAN THAT WE PLAN TO UPGRADE.
I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY CLEAR IN OUR ACTIONS WITH COUNCIL, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOLAR ON A BUILDING OR WE'RE GOING TO RETROFIT ALL OF OUR TOILETS TO LOW FLOW OR SOMETHING. SO.
THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED TO HAVE AN AUDIT OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF LIKE WHAT ALREADY HAPPENS ANYWAY.
YOU KNOW, COUNCIL APPROVES SOMETHING, GIVES STAFF DIRECTION.
THERE'S LOTS OF CHECKS AND BALANCES WITH PROCUREMENT AND FINANCE.
AND I JUST WASN'T CLEAR ON WHAT THE INTENTION WAS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR AUDIT PROGRAM THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED IF YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO CHECK ON DID WE ACCOMPLISH? YOU KNOW, GOALS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED AS PART OF OUR NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS.
YOU PROPOSE THAT THAT IS NOT THAT'S ALREADY HOW THE CITY FUNCTIONS.
YEAH, LIKE I CAN'T JUST GO, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CHANGE THE PLAN UNLESS I ASK COUNCIL FOR PERMISSION TO CHANGE THE PLAN, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO SAY THAT.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, IT COULD STRIKE THAT UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION.
RANDALL. I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION, BUT I'M GOING TO USE IT AS A SEGUE INTO AN INTERESTING TOPIC WHEN I READ THIS, I WAS A LITTLE INTRIGUED AS WELL, AND THEN I KIND OF JUST LET IT PASS. AND THEN WHEN I READ OUR EXPANSION DOCUMENT, I WAS INTRIGUED TO NOTICE THAT OUR SECOND BULLET POINT IS TO APPOINT A SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER AND THEN THEREFORE FIGURE OUT SOME SORT OF PROGRAM FOR SUSTAINABILITY.
INTERNSHIP'S APPOINTING A SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER TO ME ON THE SURFACE, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE OUR INCLINATION AS A BOARD TO ADVISE AND ENCOURAGE THE CITY MANAGER TO ESTABLISH A POSITION WITHIN THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
FRANKLY, THAT'S A POWDER KEG AS OF LATE AND A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS IN COUNCIL ABOUT CHANGING THE CITY STRUCTURE AND SO ON, AND I JUST WANT TO ESTABLISH THIS FACT IN THE COURSE OF THIS CONVERSATION, IF THAT IS OUR INTENT AS A BOARD, BECAUSE IF IT IS, THEN LEAVING POINT E MAY BE PRUDENT BECAUSE IT MAY BE SOME FORM OF JUSTIFICATION FOR OUR LATER SUGGESTION THAT A SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER EXISTS.
BUT IF IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO GET TO THAT POINT OF I WON'T CALL IT INFLUENCE, BUT OF ADVISEMENT, THEN YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BUSY.
SO I KIND OF JUST WANTED TO ESTABLISH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD IS AWARE THAT I WASN'T HERE AT THE VERY INCEPTION OF THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT, GIVEN IT WAS THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ON.
SO IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, FEELS THAT THEY CAN REPRESENT THAT OPINION, I'D LOVE TO COME TO UNDERSTAND IT.
I'M. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, AND I KNOW IT'S IN OUR COME IN, SO I KNOW WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT AT SOME POINT SPECIFICALLY AT THIS POINT I'LL JUST SAY THIS, AND IT'S KIND OF GOING TO END IN A QUESTION. SO WHAT I HAD READ THAT INITIALLY, AGAIN, WRITTEN BEFORE I WAS ON THE BOARD, MY ASSUMPTION MAYBE BORN IN PESSIMISM AND APOLOGIZE, WAS THAT PERHAPS IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN WHICH THERE WAS THE PERCEPTION THAT MONEY WAS WERE EARMARKED FOR SUSTAINABLE PURPOSES IN THESE KIND OF THINGS.
AND SO MAYBE THIS WAS WRITTEN WITH THE IDEA OF HAVING AN AUDIT TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS A LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY PERCEPTION WHEN I READ THE POINT, WHICH IS WHY I NEVER CHALLENGE IT, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA.
WHO DOES IT HURT? LET'S NOT COMMENT ON THAT, BUT, UM, AND SO CAN I CAN I JUST ASK, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HAS THAT HAPPENED? AND IF SO, WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT FUNDS THAT THERE'S A PERCEPTION WILL BE USED TOWARDS SUSTAINABLE PURPOSES ARE BEING USED? YEAH. THANK YOU. I I'M UNAWARE OF ANY STORY THAT WOULD.
LEAD TO THIS BEING IN HERE FOR THAT FOR THAT KIND OF A SITUATION.
MY OPINION IS THAT WHEN THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD COMES UP WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU HAVE YOUR PRIORITIES, AND THEN I SAY PUBLICLY IN A MEETING AS PART OF THE PREP FOR THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST, THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZES A BUDGET THAT INCLUDES FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE FOLLOWING SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES.
THAT BECOMES PART OF THE BUDGET.
AND THAT IS RIGHT THERE AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.
AND AT ANY TIME ANYONE CAN CHECK AND SAY, HAS THIS BEEN DONE? AND IF IT'S NOT DONE, WHAT HAS OCCURRED? I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF THERE'S A CHANGE TO THE BUDGET, IT WILL HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL INVESTMENT CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I AM NOT I I DO NOT KNOW ANECDOTALLY OF ANY STORIES THAT WOULD NECESSITATE THIS
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RELATED TO THE TYPES OF THINGS YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN EMBARKING ON IMPROVING OUR OVERALL OPERATIONAL STRUCTURE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE GAO LIKE AUDIT AS AN EXAMPLE, WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT TOMORROW NIGHT FOR A WHILE.
SO THAT WAS FOR THE TIME PERIOD.
TWENTY SIX TO TWENTY EIGHTEEN, WHERE THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT MISMANAGEMENT IN THE CITY AND THE STATE SENT THE AUDITOR GENERAL TEAM, IT'S CALLED GAOLI GROUP, TO COME DOWN AND BASICALLY LOOK EVERYWHERE IN THE CITIES OPERATIONS AND SEE WHAT WE DIDN'T DO RIGHT OR COULD HAVE DONE BETTER, AND THAT WE HAD THIRTY ONE FINDINGS AND THINGS THAT WE HAD TO IMPROVE UPON, YOU KNOW, CREATE A POLICY OR PROCESS TO PREVENT PROBLEMS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. SO IN TERMS OF AUDIT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE ARE THERE ARE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THAT PROCESS.
WE HAVE A FINANCIAL AUDIT EVERY YEAR.
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR PROCURING.
AND I ALSO TOLD COUNSEL EARLIER THIS WEEK AT ANOTHER MEETING, I TOLD THEM PRIOR THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALSO STARTING TO WORK ON IS INTERNAL AUDITING, ESSENTIALLY LIKE OPERATIONAL AUDITS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF AUDITING THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
AND THAT'S SIMPLY THE REASON I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THIS ONE.
SO NOT TO GET TOO LONG WINDED.
SO I HAD IT BEHIND ME. BUT I DON'T.
A MANAGER ALSO PROPOSED A BROAD LINE SYSTEM SET UP WITHIN WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL ALREADY. SO WHEN SOMEBODY SEES THEY REPORT THAT PROCESS, WE PUT THIS MONEY FOR THIS AND I SEE THAT YOU'RE DOING IT. INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME UP HERE AND BE POINTED OUT BY NAME, THEY CAN CONTACT THAT FRAUD LINE, WHICH IS CITIES JUST IMPLEMENTED.
SO IT'LL WILL HELP PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO SAY, HEY, I SEE THAT YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
BUT HERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S IN THERE JUST FOR SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS. THAT'S THERE.
YEAH. AS TO THE MR BARNES POINT, YOU CAN CALL A PHONE NUMBER, YOU CAN BE ANONYMOUS WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR VOICEMAIL, YOU CAN THERE'S A FORM ON THE WEBSITE YOU CAN FILL OUT IS FOR FRAUD, WASTE, ABUSE CONCERNS.
ANYBODY, EMPLOYEE OR OUTSIDE DOESN'T MATTER.
AND YOU CAN FILL OUT THE FORM ONLINE ANONYMOUSLY.
THE OTHER THING THAT RECENTLY AND YOU ALL KNOW, BECAUSE YOU WATCH THIS ALL THE TIME, WAS CHANGE, WHICH WAS A GOOD IDEA, WHICH IS THAT DOESN'T EVEN ROUTE THROUGH MY OFFICE.
IT GOES TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AS THE LEAD SO THAT THERE'S NO POTENTIAL FOR CITY MANAGER INFLUENCING THE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO HAVE TO REVIEW THAT, BECAUSE SEVERAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ARE IN CHARGE OF REVIEWING THOSE CONCERNS AS THEY COME IN.
SO MY POSITION IS NOT EVEN INVOLVED ANYMORE, WHICH IS GOOD FOR FOR THE FUTURE.
SO. AND DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT? NO, I GUESS MY MY VISION WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS SET UP THERE, JUST MORE CHECKS AND BALANCES TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO IS THERE SO.
YOU KNOW. I'M OK, I'M OK IF IT'S NOT IF IT'S STRICKEN FROM THERE, BECAUSE READING IT NOW, I'M TRYING TO READ IT THROUGH AND I'M LIKE, ED YEAH.
I THINK IT CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE PLAN AND BECAUSE IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HAD SOME LIFE TO IT ALREADY AND GROUPS OF PEOPLE HAVE TOUCHED IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK OVER TIME WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE MAYBE SOME THINGS BEING TWEAKED.
I WOULD TAKE IT OUT. AND AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO RANDOL, TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT A SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME KIND OF THING. WE WHOEVER TOUCHES THAT AT THE TIME IS KIND OF GOING TO BE BUILDING ON WHAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS HAD AN IDEA FOR.
AND WE MAY COME UP WITH SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT.
WHAT ELSE DID YOU HAVE? UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO MORE THINGS FOR THE WHOLE PLAN, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. I'M GOING TO TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND I ONLY HAVE ONE SUGGESTION THERE FOR YOU. IT IS GOING TO BE UNDER.
FOR THE GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, AND UNLESS I MISSED IT, WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE IS.
WE WORK WITH BREVARD COUNTY TO EXPAND AND IMPROVE THE AVAILABILITY OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. I THINK THE INTENTION IS IN HERE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS THAT CLEARLY STATED.
AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, RIGHT NOW, BUS ROUTES ARE WHILE THEY'RE BETTER THAN THEY USED
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TO BE, THEY COULD BE A LOT BETTER.I MEAN, THE ROUTES THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF HOURS JUST TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT 24/7 IN SOME CASES WERE COULD BE HELPFUL TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WORK A NIGHT SHIFT OR SOMETHING.
LESS THAT. YOU HAD SOME INFORMATION IN LIKE.
NOW, UNDER THAT GOVERNMENT OBJECT TO BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS ABOUT USING TECHNOLOGY TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BUS IS COMING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW, I'M 17, I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHWEST SOUTHEAST AREA WHERE WE HAVE ZERO TRANSPORTATION.
WHAT LANGUAGE WERE YOU LOOKING AT? WELL, MY MY LITTLE CHICKEN SCRATCH, NO, IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO WORK WITH BREVARD COUNTY TO EXPAND AND IMPROVE THE AVAILABILITY OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WORK WITH. OUR COUNTY TO EXPAND THE AVAILABILITY OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT? THANKS, MAN. THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY IS I LIKE THAT, AND I THINK THAT IT FITS PRETTY NICE AFTER POINT I BECAUSE POINT READS RIGHT, CONCENTRATE DEVELOPMENT AND COMPACT HUMANS GET WALKABLE CENTERS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CONNECT TO PUBLIC TRANSIT, OFFER DIVERSE USES AND SERVICES. I THINK THAT'S WHERE MENTALLY WE ALL THINK WE COVERED IT.
BUT YEAH, TO THAT POINT, AS WE WORK TO MAKE THOSE HUMANS GET WALKABLE CENTERS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, LET'S WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE PUBLIC TRANSIT COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE READY TO ADD TO THE ROUTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND TO THAT END, THEY GO HAND IN HAND.
RIGHT, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PUT THE PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT PLACES, THEN OUR ASK OF THEM MAYBE TOO BIG. NOW WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GO DOWN SOMEWHAT RESIDENTIAL ROADS AS A PAY AS OPPOSED TO STAYING ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T PUT MULTIFAMILY WHERE IT DOESN'T BELONG.
THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR A DIFFERENT BOARD MEETING.
AND I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH HAVING A POINT, JAY, SEEMS QUITE INTIMIDATING, IT IS THE CITY MANAGER WHO WANTED TO ADD IT TO THE CITY OBJECTIVES.
WE CAN TELL HIM WHERE IT CAME FROM.
THAT'S RIGHT. I AM ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF ADDING AND I'M FEELING A LITTLE CHAGRINED.
I DIDN'T I DIDN'T MAKE IT IN THERE.
YEAH, YOU GUYS ARE TAXPAYER, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL GOOD.
YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY, I, I JUST SHOCK BECAUSE I KNOW WE DISCUSS IT, THAT'S NOT HERE AND SO ABSOLUTELY I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR PALM BAY BEING THE LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTY TO TAKE LEAD ON THIS, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEWER ACCESS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR. OVER.
I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD FIT IT IN SOMEWHERE AND WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT IT UNDER SEE, YOU KNOW, EXPAND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WORK WITH COUNTY TO EXPAND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND CONSIDER POTENTIAL OF.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIT IT IN SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT I THINK IT'S FINE AS A STAND ALONE ITEM, AS IF WE WANT TO ADD JAY.
ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? LAST ONE, INNOVATIVE WASTE MANAGEMENT.
I THINK IT WOULD FIT UNDER GOAL ONE AND CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, BUT, UM, ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET OFF THE GROUND A LITTLE BIT MORE IS I DIDN'T SEE IT IN HERE, BUT BASICALLY.
THE CITY, THROUGH OUR SOLID WASTE PROVIDER AND OTHER MEANS, WE CAN HAVE SPECIAL WASTE COLLECTION EVENTS FOR SPECIAL TYPES OF THINGS, THE EASIEST ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS LIKE HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS, THE HOUSEHOLD CHEMICALS, YOU KNOW, THE BLEACH AND OR WHATEVER ELSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, TO DISPOSE OF THAT, IF YOU'RE A PALM BAY RESIDENT, YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO SARNO AND, YOU KNOW, DROP THE CONTAINERS THERE.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, IF YOU MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER, SOMETIMES YOU CAN.
SO ANYWAY, MY POINT IS SPECIALTY COLLECTION OF ITEMS THAT AREN'T NORMALLY ALLOWED IN YOUR TRASH PICKUP. THAT GOES WITH SOME EDUCATION, WHICH CLEARLY IS A THEME OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT PERHAPS AN ITEM SOMEWHERE IN HERE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DECREASING WASTE.
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YOU KNOW. WASN'T SURE WHERE YOU COULD FIT IT, ACTUALLY.WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE ON PAGE 20 TO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE C ADDRESSES LIKE BATTERIES, ELECTRONICS.
WELL, I WASN'T GOING TO PUT IT THERE BECAUSE I WAS MORE LIKE ABOUT RECYCLING ITEMS. SO LIKE PRESSURE TREATED.
WOOD IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PICKED UP BY YOUR NORMAL TRASH PROVIDER.
TALKING ABOUT. RECYCLABLE, NOT.
OH, OK. SO THIS IS IMPROVING RECYCLING.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BULK TRASH OR SO I THINK WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF COVERED THE RECYCLING ELEMENT.
THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT NEED TO BE THROWN AWAY.
UM, AND WE DON'T MAKE IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS TO THROW THOSE THINGS AWAY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST TRASH.
SO THROUGH OUR CURRENT VENDOR, WE CAN HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS.
CORRECT. IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ANNUALLY EVERY SIX MONTHS WE CAN MAKE IT MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENTS TO THROW THOSE THINGS AWAY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE I HAVE A STACK OF THINGS IN MY SHED JUST WAITING FOR ME TO, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY THAT.
WHEN THAT TIME COMES. I THINK WE WERE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES OF HAVING EVENTS OR PLACES OR, YOU KNOW, ONE STOP RECYCLING STOP OR FOR THE THINGS THAT CAN'T GO ON THE SINGLE STREAM. AND THEY CAN BE IN TANDEM BECAUSE YOU'RE CREATING AN EVENT TO RECYCLE.
AND AT THE SAME EVENT, YOU COULD BE BRINGING THE NON RECYCLABLE NON.
TRASH CAN, WORTHY ITEMS. OK, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.
YES, WE WANT TO ADD ANOTHER LINE ITEM TO SAY THE CITY WILL WORK WITH THE VENDOR BECAUSE THEN THE VENDOR WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH US, RIGHT? YEAH. AND I WOULD JUST KEEP IT BROAD BECAUSE IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE REPUBLIC SOME SOME SPECIALTY THINGS. YOU ACTUALLY CONTRACT WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, I MEAN, JUST SOMETHING THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SHOULD PROMOTE SPECIALIZED COLLECTION EVENTS FOR THINGS THAT DON'T BELONG IN YOUR TRASH CAN.
THAT'S NOT A VERY FANCY WAY TO SAY IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I KNOW.
THEY JUST THROW IT ON SOMEBODY'S EMPTY LOT OR IN THE COMPOUND.
RIGHT. OR, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S STUFF WE DON'T WANT TO END UP IN THE LANDFILL, YOU NEVER GET A CHANCE TO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IF IT'S JUST I'M TIRED OF THIS BEING IN MY SHED, I'M GOING TO THROW IT INTO THE CART TODAY AND OFF IT GOES, YOU KNOW? HAPPENED. THE OTHER THING THAT AVOIDS AS A SIDE NOTE IS.
PERIODICALLY, YOU'LL HEAR A STORY OF LIKE A TRASH TRUCK THAT CAUGHT ON FIRE, AND SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A CHEMICAL A RECENT ONE ACTUALLY WAS THERE WAS A CHEMICAL IN THERE. IT MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN POOL CHLORINE OR SOMETHING.
AND I FORGET WHAT IT INTERACTED WITH, BUT IT CAUSED AN EXPLOSION INSIDE THE TRUCK.
SO, YEAH, IT WAS NEAR LIBERTY PARK, ACTUALLY, IT WAS SOMETIME LAST YEAR, BUT THANKFULLY DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN HAPPEN.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON. GET THAT STUFF OUT OF, LIKE, NORMAL TRASH.
POINT THAT WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS, IF YOU LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SO GO ON MEAN REJECTED.
THIS WOULD BE K. AND JUST SAY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO DISPOSE OF ITEMS THAT CANNOT BE DISPOSED IN IN WEEKLY TRASH PICKUPS, LIKE WHEN SHE SAYS SPECIALTY EVENTS.
NOW, IT'S AN OLD THING THAT PEOPLE ARE EXCITED TO COME TO OR BE A PART OF SPECIALTY EVENTS. GIVE US, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST A THING.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY IS ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING.
SO THAT GIVES IT A LITTLE THAT WAS A MARKETING THING FOR THE CITY AS WELL.
PROVIDER EVENTS OR RESIDENTS BE ABLE TO CHOOSE A SPECIALTY PROVIDER, SPECIALTY EVENT, SPECIAL EVENTS OR SPECIALTY EVENTS, I GUESS YOU CALL IT SPECIAL EVENTS AND SPECIAL EVENTS COULD PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPECIAL EVENTS OR AND SPECIAL EVENTS THAT PROVIDE IT GIVES OPPORTUNITY PEOPLE TO.
PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH SPECIAL EVENTS FOR DISPOSAL, DISPOSABLE ITEMS THAT CANNOT GO IN NORMAL WASTE COLLECTION.
AND THE LAST PART IS THERE'S A SEA ON THE FLIP SIDE.
AGE 21 PARTICIPATE IN RECYCLING INITIATIVES AND I THINK WE COULD ADD TO THAT AND SPECIAL AND SPECIAL EVENTS FOR WAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR HAZARDOUS WASTE MATERIALS.
SPECIAL WASTE COLLECTION EVENT.
I THINK JUST CITY SPECIAL EVENTS OR NO.
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IT NEED TO WELL, I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE, LIKE, A TIMELINE OR SOMETHING HERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE QUARTERLY EVENTS OR.WELL, YOU HEAR PERFECT SEGUE INTO THE LAST THING I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY SAY.
THAT'S NOT LIKE A PLANNED THING.
BUT I SAW IN YOUR I MEAN, IT IS A PLANNED THING IN YOUR EXPANSION DOCUMENT YOU HAD IN YOUR AD METRICS FOR GOALS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN.
SO I ASSUME SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WAS AT SOME POINT TO GET TO SOME SORT OF TARGETS AND AND GOALS. I ALWAYS GO BACK TO SATELLITE BEACH AND HOW THEY BUILT THEIR SUSTAINABILITY PLANS, IT WAS A MODEL THAT WORKED FAIRLY WELL THERE WHERE THEY CREATED WHAT THEY CALLED GREEN ACHIEVEMENT TARGETS.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY SET SOME TIMELINES LIKE THIS IS A GROUP OF THINGS WE WANT TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, UNATTAINABLE LISTS OF WHATEVER WAS 20 OR SOMETHING.
BUT YET TWO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BIG PIECES OF THIS.
I THINK YOU'RE STILL WHY YOU'RE WISE TO GO TO COUNCIL JULY 15TH, IF THAT'S STILL THE PLAN AND SHARE WITH THEM WHERE YOU'RE AT.
BUT THEN THE NEXT EVOLUTION OF THIS IS BUILDING IN SOME PERFORMANCE METRICS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH AND THEN THE ACTUAL TIMEFRAME IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
AND THAT WILL INVOLVE PROBABLY A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH MYSELF AND STAFF TALKING TO YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT IS REALISTIC.
THERE WILL BE SOME STRETCH GOALS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU PRETTY QUICKLY WHAT WE CAN DO IN FIVE YEARS VERSUS WHAT WE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WON'T FINISH, YOU KNOW.
SALESFORCE, NO, THAT'S A THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT.
YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS A BOARD FOR OUR CITY MANAGER? BIG COMMENT, THANK YOU.
WELCOME, PLEASURE, OR READING THE PLAN SO THOROUGHLY? WELL, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I DIDN'T THINK I READ IT AS THOROUGHLY AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO, BUT YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
WE MOVE ON. CAN WE JUST FINISH HER LAST POINT? AND I THINK.
AND. ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE A STAND ALONE.
I THINK SHE WAS. ADDING, NOT TAKING IT AWAY.
AND THEN ADDING ALSO, IF WE'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO TO THE RECYCLING INITIATIVES, WE'RE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME ENCOURAGING THEM TO ATTEND A SPECIAL EVENT.
WELL, THEN, THANK YOU. AND I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH OUR DISCUSSION HERE OF THIS OF THE PLAN, UM, I, I HAVE A QUESTION JUST TO START WITH.
AND WE'LL ALL MAKE OUR FINAL COMMENTS ON ANY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS OR THINGS WE NEED TO DISCUSS. WHERE IT'S IN RED, THAT IT'S HIS COMMENT.
WHO WROTE THOSE THINGS IN? SO THOSE WERE A RESULT OF WHEN THE BOARD ASKED ME TO MEET WITH NICOLE AND AND DO THE BASIC FORMATTING STUFF, SO THESE WERE COMMENTS THAT, UH, NICOLE NICOLE TECHNICALLY WROTE THEM IN, BUT DURING A MEETING THAT I HAD WITH HER, SO.
WE NEED TO DISCUSS THEM NOW BECAUSE SOME OF THEM SAY, LIKE ON PAGE FIVE, COMMENT TWO SAYS SUGGEST FOR REMOVAL.
SO THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THINGS OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES WITHOUT TALKING TO THE BOARD ABOUT IT. SO, YES, THEY WERE THINGS TO SAY, HEY, LET'S TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT THIS, OK? UM.
SO LET'S LET'S DEAL WITH THOSE RED ITEMS. AND. IT'S FOR EACH BOARD MEMBER TO DO A FINAL COMMENT ON ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR CHANGES FOR THE FIRST ONE IS ON PAGE TWO AND ONE, NEW METRICS ARE NEEDED AND THAT.
THAT IS A STAFF, SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN DO GIVE US.
I WOULD JUST ASK FOR THOSE FROM YOU FOR THE.
SO THE WORD IS A BLANK IN FRONT OF THE PERCENT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? BUILDING. OK, THAT AND, UM, LIKE THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, ALL THE
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ALL THE NUMBERS, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF TO UPDATE NUMBERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT SECTION? BECAUSE POPULATION IS ALSO AVAILABLE AS OF LAST MONTH IN THE DATES ATTACHED TO THOSE NUMBERS. ABSOLUTELY.THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT AS OUR AWESOME.
PAGE FIVE, SO SUGGEST HER REMOVAL, THIS ENTIRE IS PHILIPPA'S THAT ENTIRE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, YES, OPTION IS TO REMOVE IT COMPLETELY.
I'LL GO. YES. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL INTRO IT AND TELL YOU WHAT WHAT WE WERE THINKING. SO WE WERE GOING THROUGH WITH, LIKE GRAMMAR AND FORMATTING AND WE FELT THAT THIS WAS REALLY REDUNDANT.
IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXACTLY FOLLOW THE FORMAT OF THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT, LIKE YOUR PRIMARY GOALS AND YOUR COMMUNITY GOALS AND MUNICIPAL GOALS, AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE DIFFERENT SIZING THAT WE YOU KNOW, NICOLE TRIED TO TALK IT OUT A LITTLE BIT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. BUT ULTIMATELY, WE FELT IT WASN'T REALLY ADDING ANYTHING TO THE DOCUMENT. WE FELT THAT THE PRIMARY THING HERE WAS THAT, I MEAN, IT WAS THE PRIMARY GOALS AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM THAT AND CREATE CONFUSION.
SO OUR SUGGESTION WAS TO REMOVE THOSE TWO SECTIONS, LEAVE.
WHEN WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GIVE STRUCTURE TO THE PLAN BEFORE THE WHOLE PLAN WAS FLESHED OUT, SO IT MAKES SENSE TO ME COMPLETELY THAT THEY NO LONGER APPLY.
SO, RANDALL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO REMOVING THOSE COMPLETELY? NO, MA'AM, I DON'T. SUSAN.
MAYBE IT'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND IT ISN'T TECHNICALLY IN RED, BUT THIS MESSAGE FROM THE MAYOR IS IS A BLANK PAGE.
OH. SUSAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? I RECALL THAT BEING IN THERE BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TAKING THE MODEL FROM THE SATELLITE BEACH PLAN AND THEY HAD AN ACTUAL LETTER FROM THE MAYOR TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS AND HIS SUPPORT, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DOCUMENT.
SO YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY OR NOT.
I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR, BUT KNOWING WHERE THE MAYOR STANDS ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT WHEN YOU GET TO A PLACE WHERE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED YOUR PLAN, I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THE MAYOR WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF WRITING A LETTER THAT GOES IN HERE EXPRESSING HIS SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S HIS DECISION TO MAKE ULTIMATELY.
SO UNDER MESSAGE FROM THE MAYOR, WE MIGHT WRITE A SENTENCE THAT THE BOARD SUGGESTS THAT IF THE MAYOR SO CHOOSES UPON APPROVAL OF THE PLAN BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN OUR MESSAGE BE ADDED. AND TYPICALLY, WHEN THE MAYOR WRITES A LETTER, EVEN FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HE WOULD ACTUALLY GET APPROVAL FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL TO WRITE THAT LETTER.
SO WOULD BE REALLY BEING WRITTEN ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE COUNCIL AND SHOWING SUPPORT FOR THE PLAN. SO. I DIDN'T DOWNLOAD I.
IF YOU THAT'S OK AT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD SUGGESTS THAT UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL, THE MAYOR. I HAD A MESSAGE TO THE PLAN, IF HE SO CHOOSES.
THE SENTENCE, SAY THIS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, SUGGESTS THAT UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL, THE MAYOR AD A MESSAGE TO THE PLAN.
ANYBODY OBJECTED TO THE WORDING OF THAT OR WOULD CHANGE IT? THEY THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR WRITES THE LETTER IS.
YOU MENTIONED IT WAS GOING TO BE ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL ARGUES, IS IT JUST I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WROTE THE LETTER, IT WOULD BE ON BEHALF OF COUNCILOR.
IF YOU PUT IT THERE IS LIKE, WELL, MARY, JUST GO AHEAD AND TELL US YOUR FEELINGS.
IN ALL FAIRNESS, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVEN'T TALKED TO COUNSEL YET, IT MAY APPEAR PRESUMPTUOUS, AS I THINK ABOUT IT AFTER WE TALKED, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THERE OR SOMETHING. YOU CAN JUST SORT OF MAYBE ASK FOR ONCE YOU GET THROUGH, BECAUSE REALLY THE THE THE LIFT NEXT STEP IS GETTING COUNCIL TO BUY INTO A PLAN AS IT SITS TODAY.
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AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NONE OF THEM HAVE REVIEWED IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY PUT IT OUT THERE PUBLICLY. RIGHT. SO COULD I SUGGEST THAT WE REMOVE THIS SECTION FOR NOW? AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UPON APPROVAL, WE JUST ASK THE COUNCIL, MAYBE MAKE A STATEMENT.EITHER THE MAYOR OR THE COUNCIL IS A COLLECTIVE GROUP IN SUPPORT OF THE PLAN SINCE THEY WOULD HAVE AT THAT POINT VOTED TO APPROVE IT.
DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, IT WASN'T QUITE A MOTION BY MR. SNYDER, BUT IF IT WAS, I'D SECOND IT EVERYTHING HE SAID, I I'M SORRY, I HAVE THE MIC.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK FOR THE MAYOR TO WRITE ANYTHING ON THE LETTERHEAD.
IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, KIND OF IN IN KIND, IF YOU WILL.
SO HE CAN'T WRITE SOMETHING ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL PER SAY UNLESS THEY REALLY WANT HIM TO, BECAUSE THEN THEY'LL KIND OF PREAPPROVE AND SAY, HEY, MR. MAYOR, WRITE THIS DOWN. SO WE'RE TREADING INTO STICKY WATERS AND SUZANNE'S POINT, THE PRESUMPTION OF THE MAYOR'S ENDORSEMENT OR THE COUNCIL'S ENDORSEMENT WHEN WE'RE HANDING THAT PARTY, THE DOCUMENT IS A LITTLE I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, PREMATURE. SO I'D SAY WE JUST REMOVE IT FOR NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD'S INTENT, AND I'D LOVE TO KNOW SOME OTHER BOARD MEMBERS OPINION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE PLAN AFTER IT IS COUNCIL APPROVED, BECAUSE I DO SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT LIVES WITHIN THE COUNCIL AND LIVES WITHIN THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, A CONCERNED CITIZEN OR TWO MAY SEE IT, BUT JUST HOW FAR AND WIDE DO WE WANT TO DISTRIBUTE IT AND THINGS OF THE SORT? BECAUSE IF WE GET TO THE POINT THAT WE WANT TO PACKAGE IT UP AND DISTRIBUTE IT, WE'RE HOSTING A NICE ART CONTEST FOR A NICE COVER.
I THINK MAYBE AT THAT POINT, AFTER IT'S ALREADY APPROVED AND WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DISTRIBUTION PLAN, THEN WE COULD COME TO COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DISTRIBUTE THIS TO THE COMMUNITY IN THIS WAY WITH THIS ARTWORK FROM I THINK IT WAS ODDISEE CHARTER SCHOOL WE ASKED TO DO IT OR WAS IT ANY SCHOOL? IT WAS ANY SCHOOL. YEAH, SO AFTER WE HAVE ALL THAT PUT TOGETHER, THEN BRING THAT TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE SEND THIS OUT, METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING HERE, CAN YOU KNOW CAN YOU GUYS ENDORSE IT AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED TO US ABOUT IT, MADE THEIR TWEAKS, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT WITH IT ALL.
I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYTHING'S READY AND IT'S GOING OUT TO THE FINAL THING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FROM THE MAYOR.
SO IN THIS REGARD WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR HIM TO DO ANYTHING AT THIS MOMENT. TAKE IT OUT, THAT IS WITH THE AS YOU SAID, WITH THE EXAMPLE OF OTHERS THAT WE WERE GOING OFF OF THOSE BOARDS THAT CREATED SUSTAINABILITY PLANS.
THEY ALSO PUBLISHED THEM ON THEIR CITY WEBSITE.
AND IT WAS A PACKAGED NICE THING.
SO, YES, I'M IN FAVOR OF REMOVING IT FOR RIGHT NOW.
I SEE IT IN SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING, A COPY OF PEOPLE'S LIBRARIES.
AND I THOUGHT. IS IN FAVOR OF REMOVING IT.
REBECCA. ALSO IN FAVOR OF REMOVAL.
THIS WAS MOVED FROM A COMMUNITY MGIC OBJECTIVE TO A CITY OBJECTIVE.
THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT IMPROVE AWARENESS OF INVASIVE SPECIES THROUGH PUBLIC EVENTS AND CAMPAIGNS. SO THERE WAS A FEW OF THESE I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO MORE THAT, HEY, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, LIKE OUR LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE HAS BEEN A BUNCH OF OBJECTIVES THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT REALLY WERE CITY OBJECTIVES BECAUSE THE ONUS OF RESPONSIBILITY WAS ON THE CITY AND WE HAD MISSED A FEW.
AND SO I'M SAYING JUST LIKE WE MOVE THEM, BUT WE WANTED TO CALL THEM OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD WAS IN AGREEMENT, UM, WITH THOSE MOVES.
UM, BECAUSE THE ONUS OF RESPONSIBILITY I MEAN, OF COURSE, CONVERSATION, UM, APPEARED TO BE ON THE CITY AND NOT THE RESIDENTS.
SO I THINK THERE'S LIKE TWO OR THREE OF THESE RANDOL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOVE.
YES, I AM, AND I DON'T WANT TO WORK BACKWARDS, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST ADD A REMARK BEFORE WE MOVE TOO FAR AWAY FROM PAGE SEVEN IS I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING CAPTIONS ON THE PHOTOS. SO I'M THINKING THIS IS TURKEY CREEK, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND POINT THAT OUT. EACH PHOTO IS GOING TO BE FROM SOMEWHERE IN OUR CITY THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED.
WHERE DID THE PHOTOS, WHO INSERTED THE PHOTOS JUST.
YOU HAVE THE AD DESCRIPTION OF THE PHOTO.
TO THE POINT. LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL TURKEY CREEK IS, GO GET A KAYAK AND YOU CAN GO SEE IT.
YOU'RE NORTH AND EAST OF THAT, WILL IT? OH, YOU ARE DISINTERESTED IN ANY OTHER.
NO, I WAS OK WITH THAT, I THINK IS DEFINITELY A CITY'S OBJECTIVE.
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IS IN FAVOR AND REBECCA.IN FAVOR ON PAGE NINE, COMMENT OR REVIEW, CHANGE WAS BORN, PHILLIP, DO YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS? SO I ACTUALLY DON'T REMEMBER MAKING THIS WITH NICOLE.
AND SO I'M NOT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE MYSELF.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS BEFORE ANYBODY REMEMBER IT WAS WORTH.
MAYBE. I DIDN'T BRING MY OLD RICHMOND.
I'M. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING WE WROTE, I DON'T THINK YOU.
I'M WONDERING IF WE DIDN'T HAVE WHERE APPLICABLE AND SAFE TO DO SO, WONDERING IF WE HAD JUST PUT INCREASED TREE PLANTING ON PRIVATE LAND.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER THIS BEING CONVERSATION I WOULD CALL.
UM, SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN LIKE A JURISDICTIONAL ADDICTION QUESTION AND DOES DOES THE BOARD.
HAVE JURISDICTION ON PRIVATE LAND.
MARAGING, WELL, IT'S A COMMUNITY GOALS.
YEAH, WELL, WE CAN WE CAN ENCOURAGE IT.
WE HAVE THE POWER TO INCREASE IT, BUT THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY ON A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES. WE HAVE NO NO AUTHORITY ONE WHATSOEVER, WHETHER THE PEOPLE IN BUSINESS OBJECT. AND BUSINESS.
WE'RE KIND OF WE'VE KIND OF RUN INTO THAT QUITE A BIT OF.
IS THE BOARD AND AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS ABOUT WHETHER WE EVEN INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY AND OBJECTIVES AND BUSINESS OBJECTIVES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO.
SO THOSE ENTITIES OR PERSONS, WHAT TO DO? ENCOURAGE. IF WE SAY ENCOURAGED, THEN IT BECOMES A CITY OBJECTIVE BECAUSE THE CITIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENCOURAGING, I KIND OF I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I LIKE IT AS IT IS.
WE'RE CHALLENGING THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU CAN PLANT A TREE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S APPLICABLE. AND SO SO I'M PERSONALLY IN FAVOR OF IT.
I JUST UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS A PART OF THIS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE CHANGING IT FROM AND TO WHAT I CAN SAY IN THIS ITERATION, IT'S I LIKE IT AND I I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. AND ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF MAINTAINING THAT THAT OBJECTIVE B AS IS? YES, MA'AM, ALL POINTS NOTED, BUT I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN LEAVING IT AS IT IS.
I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT, AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, A LOT OF IT IS REALLY ENCOURAGING AND THE CITY WILL ALWAYS PLAY A ROLE IN, YOU KNOW, PROMOTING AND WORKING WITH OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS. I.
AGAIN, THE IDEA, OF COURSE, IS TO TWO PRONGED.
ONE, WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT WE CAN'T DICTATE TO ANYONE TO PLANT TREES.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE WORD ENCOURAGE MAKES IT A CITY THING BECAUSE THE CITY IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED ANYWAY. OH, BUT IDEALLY, IT IS ENCOURAGING PEOPLE.
I THINK THE MESSAGE STILL GOES BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORCE ANYONE.
I'M IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT AS THIS IS AN.
IN FAVOR OF JUST SAYING INCREASE.
I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO BE LEFT.
BECCA. YES, WELL, THE GOLD TO SAY TO INCENTIVIZE PROTECTION OF NATURAL AREAS ON PRIVATE LANDS AND OTHER THAN THIS ONE THING, WE HAVE NOTHING ABOUT PRIVATE LANDS.
WE CAN KEEP IT IN AND MOVE TO PAGE 11, COMMENT FIVE.
ANOTHER MOVE FROM COMMUNITY OBJECTIVE TO CITY OBJECTIVE, ANY.
ANYONE OBJECT TO CHANGING THAT FROM COMMUNITY TO CITY OBJECTIVES? WHEN ME AND NICOLE DISCUSSED THIS, WE HAD THE CONCERN THAT WE HAD REDUCED COMMUNITY
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ACTIVITIES, ONE OBJECTIVE.SO, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
I DON'T. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE, LIKE A RULE THAT THERE HAS TO BE MORE THAN ONE, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE POINTING THAT OUT.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE JUST A CHANCE FOR EACH PERSON IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR CHANGE.
YES, YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM HERE, SO, RANDALL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR CHANGE? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET HUNG UP ON THE PHOTOS UNDER BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
I IMAGINE THIS PHOTO TO BE A PHOTO OF HTC OR HERRIES TECHNOLOGY CENTER.
CAN ANYONE WITHIN THIS BOARD OF THIS ROOM CONFIRM THAT THIS BUILDING IS EXEMPLARY BY THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THIS PLAN TO THE POINT THAT IT SHOULD BE REPRESENTED ON THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT? BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE PICKY ABOUT GIVING ENDORSEMENTS TO PEOPLE AND HEIRESSES ON MY BAD SIDE IF THEY DON'T PAY ENOUGH TAXES AT SOME POINT IN PLANE ABATEMENT GAMES WITH US. I DON'T WANT TO ENDORSE THEM, BUT IF THEY REALLY DID MAKE A VERY SUSTAINABLE BUILDING, OK, FAIR ENOUGH.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BEST REPRESENTATION I WOULD WANT TO THE BEST SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IN OUR CITY TO BE ON THE COVER.
AND IF THE BOARD FEELS THAT THIS IS I'M GOOD WITH THAT, BUT I WOULD JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP FOR CONVERSATION.
ON OUR CITY HALL, IF WE HAD A CONCEPT DRAWING THAT BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, WE COULD DEFINITELY GO WITH THAT, BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT YET.
WE JUST HIRED THE FIRM. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I THINK WELL, I THINK THIS IS REALLY RELATED IS KIND OF TO STAFF.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT ASSUMING THINGS SO I WAS ASSUMING THAT THESE WERE JUST KIND OF PLACEHOLDERS AND YOU GUYS WERE STILL WORKING FOR THE FORMATTING AND NOTHING WAS OFFICIAL. IS THAT ACCURATE OR WERE THESE LIKE IN THE PICTURES? WE WERE ABLE THE THE PICTURE SELECTION IS IS THAT IS THE BOARD'S TASK FLASH DISCRETION.
SO WHATEVER PHOTOS THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THIS DOCUMENT ARE THE PHOTOS THAT WILL BE PLACED IN THIS DOCUMENT.
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS NOT THE MEETING LESS THAN ONE BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE SOME RESOURCES WERE THAT YOU COULD THAT WE CHECKED WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT THAT YOU COULD ACCESS FACEBOOK, THE WEBSITE AND EVEN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.
IF HE FOUND SOMETHING THAT WAS APPEALING AND YOU FELT APPROPRIATE FOR THE DOCUMENT, YOU WERE WELCOME TO USE IT. SO.
YOU TELL US WHAT YOU LIKE TO HAVE AND WHERE, AND WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
MAYBE FIND A DIFFERENT PICTURE FOR.
OH, HEY, THE REST OF THE BOARD JUST TELL ME WE LIKE HARRIS TECHNOLOGY CENTER, WE WANT IT TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE. THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE CONVERSATION AND MAKE SURE THAT AS A BOARD WE DECIDE ON EACH PHOTO. IT'S NOT JUST WE RANDOMLY ROLL WITH IT.
I WOULDN'T EVEN IF SOMEONE BROUGHT IT TO A VOTE, I WOULDN'T EVEN NECESSARILY SAY NO, BECAUSE TO MISS MIRAGE'S POINT, IT'S NOT LIKE I HAVE ANOTHER COUNTEREXAMPLE FOR YOU GUYS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHINE LIGHT ON IT AND SAY, HEY, AS A BOARD, LET'S LOOK AT EACH PHOTO AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE REPRESENTATION OF THAT.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PHOTO AND YOU'RE WRONG.
I MEAN, IT'S NICE THAT IS THAT INNOVATION BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET IS THAT I NEVER KNOW. IT WAS BUILT BY EFFET, I THINK.
RIGHT. THAT'S VERY THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT TO THAT BUILDING.
I HAD ODDISEE IN MY HEAD, A SUSTAINABLE ODDISEE CHARTER SCHOOL IN BAYSIDE LAKES IS BUILT TO GREEN STANDARDS, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE WAY THAT THEY MOVE AIR THINGS OF THIS SORT, THAT'S AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION.
THERE'S OTHERS, AND I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T COME PREPARED NECESSARILY WITH A COUNTEREXAMPLE TO THIS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, BEAUTIFUL PHOTO, I JUST WANTED US TO TAKE THE TIME TO SAY, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
AS YOU SAID, IS IT GREEN BUILDING? UM. IT SHOWS AND BECAUSE OF THAT.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I BELIEVE NICOLE WENT THROUGH AND SELECTED AND MAYBE I CAN JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION, YOU ASKED IF THIS WAS A PLACEHOLDER, PERHAPS SINCE WE ARE STILL SEEKING COUNSEL'S APPROVAL AT SOME POINT OF THE DOCUMENT, THAT WE DO INDEED CONSIDER THEM PLACEHOLDERS. AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE BOARD TIME TO SEEK OUT PHOTOS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO A MEETING AND TALK ABOUT.
AS WE SAID, THIS IS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.
OH, BEFORE WE PUBLISH IT ON THE WEB SITE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WE CAN CERTAINLY SWAB THAT PHOTOS OUT FOR ONES THAT YOU AGREE AS A WARD SHOULD BE IN IN THE PLAN.
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SUGGESTION MANAGER, WITH THAT BEING SAID, CAN WE REMOVE ALL THE PLACEHOLDERS FOR NOW BECAUSE OUR EVEN OUR COVER IS A PLACEHOLDER, WE HAVE THIS GREAT CONTEST OUT THERE FOR THE YOUTH TO DESIGN OUR COVER.SO COULD WE MAYBE RECONVENE ON THE PHOTO ASPECT OF THIS AND JUST GIVE IT IN TEXT FORM? AND THEN ONCE WE'VE WE'VE BROUGHT THE CONTEST TO THE BOARD AND WE CHOOSE A WINNER FOR THAT COVER, THEN WE CAN HAVE A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, AGENDA ITEM OF ONE OF OUR MEETINGS TO SAY, OK, WHAT'S THE ARTWORK FOR EACH SECTION? THIS IS THE COVER. THIS IS BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
THIS IS TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY.
JUST THE THOUGHT. I'M REALLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT CITY COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION TO VEER FROM CONTENT.
ESTHETICS, RIGHT, I WASN'T SHARING MY PERSONAL OPINIONS PER SAY ABOUT ALL HAIR AS I WAS SHARING MY INTERPRETATION OF EVERYONE ELSE'S.
ALL RIGHT. SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WHEN WE PRESENT OUR PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE JULY 15TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, THAT WE DO SO WITH NO PICTURES ON THE PLAN, BUT ONLY TEXT AND A SECOND, I'LL SECOND THAT AND IN FAVOR.
THE TEXAS. BRIBING WHAT KIND OF PICTURE WE WANT THERE OR JUST.
I KNOW NO PICTURES AT ALL, NO TEXT.
MY ONLY THING IS THAT WHAT WE COULD DO, I MEAN, SEPARATE FROM THIS IS TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF PICTURES WE WANT THERE, BECAUSE I COULD JUST GO INTO PALM BEACH COMMUNITY, PALM BEACH OR PEOPLE TAKE AMAZING PICTURES.
HEY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS KIND OF PICTURE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY. I THINK WE WE HAVE IT AND WE CAN WORK AS A BOARD, BRING PICTURES, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THEM TO DISTRIBUTE WITH THE AGENDA.
I MEAN, YOU ALSO HAVE ARTWORK TO DECIDE ON AS A BOARD, AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
WE'RE A MEMBER OF CHAYEFSKY RECOMMENDED WE BRING THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND YOU LOOK AT YOUR ARTWORK, YOU LOOK AT YOUR, UM.
PHOTOGRAPHS AND DECIDE WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE.
AND THAT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU? NO, MA'AM, THAT WAS REALLY THAT WAS REALLY IT.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE A CHANCE TO THANK MR. SNYDER FOR TAKING OVER THE SCRIBE DUTIES, CHECKING THROUGH EVERYTHING GRAMMATICALLY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT'S GOT TO BE PAINSTAKING WORK.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR, AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD WHO'S GOING TO HAVE A FEW NOTES OF THAT.
BUT FORMATTING WISE, I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY GAVE IT THE TIME IT WAS DUE.
PRESENTATION WISE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE AT A LATER JUNCTURE TO MAKE IT A MORE DISTRIBUTABLE PACKET.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
SO ALL IN ALL, I'M VERY HAPPY.
I'M VERY PROUD AND VERY PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD AND TO PRESENT THIS PLAN ON THE JULY 15 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME. SO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
YEAH, JUST JUST TWO THINGS, THE FIRST IS KIND OF SILLY, BUT IT PROVES A REALLY EXCITING THING ABOUT THE TIMES WE LIVE IN.
SO THERE HAD BEEN THIS LITTLE NOTE THAT I HAD MADE WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH NICOLE AND SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION STUFF, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING CITY VEHICLES TO TO APPLICABLE, YOU KNOW, MORE SUSTAINABLE ELECTRIC VERSIONS.
I JUST PUT A LITTLE PARENTHESES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S NO ELECTRIC FIRE TRUCKS HERE.
AND THEN IN MY NEWS FEED LAST WEEK, HEY, GUESS GUESS WHAT EXISTS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I GOT THIS LITTLE THING THAT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, FIRST ELECTRIC FIRE TRUCK AND USE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND IT WAS JUST A REALLY COOL MOMENT.
I'M JUST LIKE, MAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIVING IN SOME PRETTY EXCITING TIMES.
UM, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE GETTING TO TO TAKE THE BIGGEST CITY IN BROWARD COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S REALLY AN INCREDIBLE CITY AND BE A VOICE, ONE OF MANY VOICES MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO, YOU KNOW, MENTALLY WHAT I THINK OF AS OUR LEGACY, UH, ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS WHO GOT THIS STARTED AND GOT THE BALL ROLLING.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US JUST JUMPED ON AND HONESTLY AT THE END AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CONTRIBUTED IN GIVING A LAST LITTLE PUSH, WHICH IS COOL, BUT WE DIDN'T TRUDGE THROUGH A LOT OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THIS BOARD HAD.
AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE THERE IN FOR STAFF AND JUST THE AMAZING STAFF THAT IS INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, THAT THIS ISN'T THIS IS A BIG DEAL. RIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, MISS SHERMAN, THANKS FOR MAKING TIME TONIGHT TO YOU KNOW, YOU READ OUR
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PLAN, GAVE US FEEDBACK.THAT'S EXCITING, UM, BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE LEGS AND KEEP GOING.
SO I GUESS I WASN'T ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE, BUT I TOOK A I KNOW RANDOL AND SOAPBOX TO A LITTLE BIT, SO. THANK YOU.
OK, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR EXPANSION DOCUMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF STUFF ON THERE THAT I'M EXCITED FOR.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AM I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TO ADD HERE.
I'M REALLY, REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THE YOUTH HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR THE ARTWORK THAT IS REALLY, REALLY EXCITING, ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE A FEW PEOPLE TO DO IT.
SO I'M HOPING TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUMP ON BOARD AND GET IT DONE.
BUT OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, JOB AND KUDO'S.
I WAS SURPRISED THAT SUZANNE ONLY HAD A FEW LITTLE CORRECTIONS THERE SO WE CAN PAT OURSELVES ON THE SHOULDER FOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING IT DONE.
WE HAD A TASK TO COME TO DO THIS AND WE DID IT IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO I CAN SAY WE'RE PROUD OF OURSELVES FOR THIS.
WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE WATER RECHARGE TO THE AQUIFER THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US THIS EVENING. THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE, UM.
BROUGHT UP IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT.
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE RENEWAL OF THE AQUIFER.
I KNOW THAT AS PEOPLE ARE MOVED OFF OF WELLS, THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
BUT GIVEN THE NUMBER OF WELLS, DO WE NEED TO.
ADD SOMETHING TO THE PLAN ABOUT.
THERE WAS NO MOTION OR CHANGE MADE IN REGARDS TO.
SO I THINK FOR ME, UM, REALLY EXCITED, MR BATTEN BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON MY RADAR. UM, I THINK MY ONLY POINT OF.
OF OF CONTENTION IS I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE, SO I'M WONDERING IF STAFF CAN MAYBE ARRANGE FOR US TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND FROM THAT, WE CAN THEN CREATE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE'D WANT TO SEE IN THE PLAN AND MAYBE WE CAN MAKE LIKE A PLACEHOLDER GOAL OR SOMETHING VERY BROAD.
BUT I JUST I FEEL LIKE I'M HAVING ONE OF THESE MOMENTS LIKE YOU DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THIS. UM, AND I'M NOT VERY EDUCATED ON IT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
AND MR. BIDEN IS THE INDEPENDENT, IF WE CAN START STARRET.
I DON'T AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH PART IT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT GO BACK, YOU KNOW, I'M AN OLD MAN FROM THIS CITY AS I HAVE.
MY ORIGINAL PLAN IS PAPERBACK BOOK NORTH FOR PLAN, NOT TO BRING THAT IN ONE TIME TO EMBARRASS MYSELF, BUT IN THAT PLAN, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE DRAWINGS AND MAPPING AREAS WHICH SAID THESE ARE GOOD RECHARGE AREAS.
THESE ARE FOR THE TYPE OF GROUND IT IS.
SO THERE'S NO WAY CIRCULATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO PART OF IT MIGHT BE THAT YOU SOME BETTER SOMEHOW.
TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLD COMPREHENSIVE PLANS WHERE IT GIVES THAT BREAKDOWN OF WHAT LAND MASS WAS ACTUALLY GOOD FOR RECHARGE AREA, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THE RECHARGE AREA IS FLAT LAND.
EVERYBODY SAYS, OH, THAT'S THE PERFECT PLACE TO BUILD A NEW DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY CLEARED, READY TO GO.
AND ALL I HAVE TO DO IS PAY THE WATER IMPACT FEE.
BUT IT'S THERE'S SOME OF THAT COMPARISON HAS TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT IN HISTORY TO GEOLOGY WITH IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS YOUR TOPIC, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I KNOW OF THAT HAS IT IS SOME OF THE OLD COMP PLANS THAT HAVE THE GEOLOGY OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND I KNOW THAT MAKES IT HARDER ON YOU, BUT IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM THERE.
I'M SORRY I INTERRUPTED YOUR MEETING HERE.
OR A WAY THAT WE COULD PUT A BROAD COMMENT CAPTURING IN THIS, LIKE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT BY SAYING WE COULD ADD TO GOAL THREE WHERE IT SAYS, MANAGE AND PROTECT GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES TO SAFE GROUNDWATER.
AQUAFERS RECHARGING AQUIFERS, SOMETHING IN THEIR.
BROAD GOAL THREE IS THE ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THAT, TO ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS TO SECURE A CLEAN WATER SOURCE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
SO RECHARGING THE AQUIFER IS EXACTLY THE IDEA I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS BY HAVING PEOPLE
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CONVERT TO WETLANDS AS OF PERSON AS OPPOSED TO JUST ALLOWING THE STORMWATER TO RUN OFF.ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IT OR WE COULD BE MORE THOROUGH IN ADDRESSING IT, WE COULD BE CLEARER IN THE LANGUAGE TO MANAGE AND PROTECT GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES TO SAY.
TO BE ADDRESSED, TO ADDRESS RECHARGING THE AQUIFER BY MANAGING AND PROTECTING GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES.
I'M IN. PROTECTING GROUNDWATER.
WELL, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EDUCATE OURSELVES ON MORE.
CAN WE PLEASE REPEAT THAT AS I'M TRYING TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT I NEED TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER BY MANAGING AND PROTECTING GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES.
I LIKE THAT LANGUAGE, AND I WOULD THEN PROPOSE THAT IN OUR EXPANSION DOCUMENT, WE PUT A NOTE TO OURSELVES TO EDUCATE MORE ON.
ON THAT TOPIC OF THE GEOLOGY, AND I AM SO SORRY I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A GOOD SCRIBE, CAN WE JUST REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER.
I MANAGING AND PROTECTING GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES.
BRIANNA, WERE YOU COULD YOU ADD THAT TO THE EXPANSION? I WOULD LIKE TO IN ADDITION TO WHAT IT'S WRITING DOWN NOW THAT WE.
I DEEPER INTO THE DOVE, DEEPER INTO THE GEOLOGY OF OF THE AREAS THAT.
I NEED PROTECTED FOR THE AQUIFER, WHAT I'VE MADE A NOTE OF IS TO ARRANGE EXPERTIZE AND PRESENTATION FOR YOUR REVIEW CONSIDERATION.
SO WHETHER WE BRING SOMEONE IN OR WE GET YOU SOME DOCUMENTS THAT YOU CAN REVIEW AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
THAT WORKS. IT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MY LAST COMMENT.
SUSAN. I'M WARNING ALSO TO THINK.
THANK YOU, I MEAN, YOUR LEADERSHIP.
I'M PROUD OF ALL OF US FOR PUTTING THE.
I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE STILL HAVE A VACANCY ON THIS.
OWING. AND ANYWAYS, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE, AND THAT IS THERE ARE OTHER THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS CITY THAT I THINK THE WINNABILITY BOARD TAKE ON NOW THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THIS PLAN ON A BIGGER ROLE IN A MORE VISIBLE ROLE.
AND ONE OF THE AREAS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AT MENSCHEN. I THINK I'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AND REALLY THERE IS NO MENTION, NO CONSCIOUSNESS OR SUSTAINABLE.
I THINK IT MAY BE UP TO US TO START PARTICIPATING AS INDIVIDUALS, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING IN TERMS OF MAYBE EVEN PREPARED.
COMMENTS THAT COME FROM OUR PLAN, FROM OUR EXPANSION IDEAS THAT GO IN WRITING.
UM, I THINK AND SHOULD HAVE A BIT OF.
OUR BUDGET MEETINGS THAT WE AS BOARD MEMBERS CAN ATTEND AS CITIZENS.
BUDGET HEARINGS ARE VERY INTERESTING, I SUPPOSE, AND SHERMAN HAS A HUGE JOB.
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HE MAY MISS OUT DUE TO THE TIMING OF SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT.ARE LOOKING TO NEXT YEAR AND LAYING.
INVISIBLE, GETTING OUR IDEAS FORWARD.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE ART PROJECT, THE, UM, OR THE LOGO.
I AM HOPEFUL THAT AS SCHOOLS BECOME AWARE OF THIS, THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD AND OUR PLAN, THAT THEY'LL BECOME INVOLVED AND GET THEIR FAMILIES INVOLVED.
AND WE CAN ADD BACK SOME OF THAT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THAT WAS REMOVED AND MOVED TO GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE I REALLY THINK WE NEED THE COMMUNITY TO BE ENGAGED AND SUPPORT THIS EFFORT. UM, BEYOND THAT, IT HAS BEEN VERY EDUCATIONAL FOR ME PERSONALLY TO SERVE ON THE BOARD AND LEARN SO MUCH ABOUT PALM BAY.
UM, UM, UM, TRIPS TO THE WESTERN END OF MALABAR ROAD TO THE THREE FORKS CONSERVATION AREA. WE'VE SEEN, UM, A DOE AND A FAWN.
WE'VE SEEN ALL KINDS OF BIRDS.
IT'S JUST BEEN THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY.
UM, FOR THE PUBLIC TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CITY THROUGH THIS PLAN AND WHAT THE FUTURE CAN HOLD, AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE VISION 2040 VISION, IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THANK YOU.
AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I'VE BEEN TO THOSE MEETINGS AND WE TRY TO DEFINITELY MENTION SUSTAINABILITY, SO.
WE'RE TRYING. THE LAST WE KNOW BUSINESS IS OTHER BUSINESS, UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS OF INTEREST. WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT I THINK.
FIRST, WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHERE WE ARE, HOW AND WHEN WE ARE PRESENTING OUR PLAN.
I'M THINKING WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS INCORPORATE THE CHANGES YOU'VE ASKED FOR AND WE HAVE A TEXT ONLY DOCUMENT THAT WILL GO TO COUNCIL STAFF HAS PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW, TO SUBMIT AGENDA ITEMS, AND I'LL BE MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, TAKE PLACE SO WE CAN GET IT TO COUNCIL. YOU ARE GOING TO BE MAKING PRESENTATION AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND ASKING FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF YOUR DOCUMENT.
UM, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT I, I DON'T REMEMBER AT OUR LAST MEETING DISCUSSING JULY 15TH WAS THE THE DATE.
OK. SOMEHOW I MISSED THAT I'M OUT OF THE COUNTRY ON THAT DAY, SO I WILL NOT BE THERE TO HELP WITH THE PRESENTATION.
UM, YEAH, THAT WAS IN THE MINUTES.
I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS AT THE LAST MINUTE OR THE MINUTES OF THE MOST RECENT MEETING THAT YOU HAD TONIGHT.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I AM GONE.
FOR TWO WEEKS IN JULY, I'LL ALSO BE OUT OF STATE AT THAT TIME, SO I DON'T REMEMBER, I'M I FEEL LIKE I WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT, UM.
I WILL BE. WHEN ARE THE THE MEETINGS IN JULY.
WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE JULY ONE, WHICH IS WHICH IS ALREADY THE AGENDA HAS ALREADY BEEN REPAIRED, SO WE REALLY WOULDN'T NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AUGUST.
THERE ARE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE FIRST AND EITHER THURSDAY, AUGUST.
SO OR WEDNESDAY, FORGIVE ME, SO WHAT I CAN DO IS.
SEND OUT AN EMAIL TOMORROW MORNING, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE DATES ARE.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALENDAR WITH THE CITY CLERK TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE, BECAUSE WE'LL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH OUR OFFICE, THE LEGISLATIVE OFFICE AS WELL, TO SELECT ANOTHER DATE. THAT WOULD, HOWEVER, NEED TO BE A BOARD DECISION.
WE LET THE CITY MANAGER SHARE HER THOUGHTS.
WE'VE NOT DISCUSSED AT ALL HOW WE ARE PRESENTING.
SO ANY ADVICE YOU WANT TO GIVE US? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, TO BERTUS POINT, WE HAVE TO FIND BECAUSE THEY LIMIT HOW MANY PRESENTATIONS WE CAN DO PER MEETING.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH MEANING WORKS FOR YOUR SCHEDULES AND COUNCIL ALREADY.
TEN MINUTE LIMIT ON THE PRESENTATION.
YOU CAN DO IT HOWEVER YOU WANT, YOU CAN DO LIKE MULTIPLE SPEAKERS, ONE SPEAKER, WHATEVER YOU LIKE. BUT IF I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE AT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH COUNSEL AT THIS FIRST MEETING, AS YOU ARE PRESENTING TO THEM, THE CONCEPTS HAVE BEEN PULLED TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FORMALLY GOING TO ADOPT IT.
RIGHT. THIS IS JUST AN EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATION, IF I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE AT, SINCE
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YOU'RE STILL GOING TO ADD MORE TO THE PLAN IN TERMS OF.NO, I WASN'T SURE, I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE SINCE I HAVEN'T HEARD ALL THE CONVERSATION, SO I WASN'T CLEAR IF THIS WAS JUST HOW WE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
THESE ARE OUR CORE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE HIGH LEVEL THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT ACCOMPLISHING.
GIVE THEM AN ORIENTATION TO IT.
WE WANT CONSENSUS TO CARRY ON BECAUSE WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION KIND OF DISCUSSION VERSUS AN ALL IN ADOPTION OF THE PLAN.
AND THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION OF YOU IS, DO YOU WANT THE PLAN TO BE ADOPTED WITH YOUR MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS? FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IN FIVE YEARS? WHAT DO YOU WANT IN TERMS OF METRICS, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BOG IT DOWN BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KEEP THINGS ROLLING, BUT I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING.
SO WHAT, YOU WERE GOING TO GET OUT OF A COUNCIL? ESTHER. I SEEM TO RECALL THAT WE DECIDED MATRIX WAS GOING TO BE IN THE EXPANSION DOCUMENT. I GUESS FOR ME, IT WAS ALWAYS MATRIXX, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M SURE WHEN WE GET IN FRONT OF COUNSEL, THE QUESTION IS GOING TO ASK, OK, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT? SO I KNOW THAT WAS MY MAIN THING.
IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MATRIX, EVEN IF IT'S JUST FOR ONE OR TWO ITEMS. BUT I KNOW SHE'S RIGHT REBOARDED AGREED TO JUST PUT IT TOGETHER AND THEN JUST TELL THEM ABOUT IT.
AND THEN THE PLAN WAS TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT.
WE COME UP WITH. I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF I CAN RECONSIDER IT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MATRIX, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE COMPLETE DOCUMENT TO SAY THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES AS WE SEE THEM. STEP ONE, EVEN IF IT'S ONE OR TWO, THAT WOULD BE.
SUZANNE, HOW HAS THIS GONE IN OTHER CITIES THAT YOU HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH? WELL, YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO PRESENT THE PLAN WHEN YOU'RE READY TO ADOPT IT, YOU KNOW.
LET ME STEP BACK. I THINK DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU.
WHAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN IN SOUTH BEACH IS THEY WERE IT TOOK THEM A LONG TIME, IT TOOK THEM A GOOD TWO YEARS TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAD THEY WANTED TO GO VERY MEASURABLE AT THE BEGINNING.
SO THEY THEY WERE PLUGGING IN A METRIC THEY ACTUALLY HAD, YOU KNOW, LIKE NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS PER YEAR KIND OF GOALS AND SOME OF THE EDUCATION THINGS.
THEN THE BIGGEST PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE MATRIX AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. WE CAN DO IT MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR. WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING WAS HAVING THAT GREEN ACHIEVEMENT TARGET PLAN AND THE TIMELINE AND PRIORITIZING. WE WANT TO TRY TO GET, YOU KNOW, THESE 10, 15, 20 THINGS DONE IN THE FIRST X NUMBER OF YEARS TYPE OF DETAIL.
BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE WAY, IF IT'S FOR YOU, YOU ALL, IF WHAT YOU WANT IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL, LIKE A COUNCIL, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FOR OUR CORE GOALS. AND WE THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT FOUNDATION FOR THE CITY.
WILL YOU APPROVE IT? AND WE CAN GO STRAIGHT INTO AN AGENDA ITEM THAT IS PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL IF YOU WANT IT TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION RIGHT THERE WITH THAT MEETING.
BUT NOT KNOWING, SINCE WE HAVE NOT INTRODUCED US TO THEM AT ALL, NOT KNOWING WHERE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE AT AND MIGHT BE A BETTER APPROACH TO STEP INTO IT AND PROVIDE AN INITIAL PRESENTATION JUST WHERE YOU'RE AT TODAY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? IT WASN'T REALLY AN ANSWER TO A SITUATION WHERE WE JUST SAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS, COUNCIL, PLEASE FEEL TO ADD TO THIS, BUT IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SEE WHERE WE AT AND APPROVE OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN THE INFORMATIONAL RIGHT.
THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY TO MAKE THE PLAN B, THE PLAN FOR THE CITY, WE WANT COUNCIL TO ADOPT IT.
RIGHT. AND SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE CONVERSATION AND SAY THESE ARE OUR CORE FIVE AREAS AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE THEMES THAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE.
WE WANT YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS, SO ARE YOU WITH US OR NOT KIND OF CONVERSATION? AND FROM THERE, WE GO BACK AND AND ADD WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP, I THINK IF YOU GET THEIR INITIAL CONSENSUS APPROVAL FOR THE DIRECTION, THEN YOU CAN KEEP BUILDING A PLAN, WHATEVER WAY YOU WANT TO.
I MEAN, I THINK THE INTENTION AND YOUR IN YOUR ADVISORY BOARD IS TO COME BACK ONCE A YEAR WITH AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT MIGHT BE IN YOUR BYLAWS OR THAT'S BALES'. SHOULD BE IN THE BYLAWS, IT IS NOT, BUT I THINK OUR INTENTION WAS ALWAYS THAT YOU WOULD COME BACK AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR UNTIL COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SOME CHANGES WE'VE MADE SO WE'D LIKE TO DO NEXT OR, YOU KNOW.
IF WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION IN JUNE AND JULY, FOR EXAMPLE, OF A CONSENSUS.
THEY'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING, THEN WE GO AND WE MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE ACTION PLAN AND
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STEPS BASED ON THESE GOALS AND THEN WE ASK THEM TO APPROVE THAT, THAT IS ONE WAY YOU CAN DO IT. I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY.I'M ALSO SAYING YOU COULD GO AS IT IS TODAY AND SAY, COUNCIL, HERE'S OUR PLAN.
WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
I JUST I'M TELLING YOU, I HAVE NOT TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY STAND ON IT. SO I CAN'T EVEN GIVE YOU A SENSE OF IT'S GOING TO BE A QUICK DISCUSSION OR A LONG DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN.
I THINK IT'S EARLY TO KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO REACT WHEN THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT I HAD THE IMPRESSION I'M NOT SURE HOW I GOT IT, THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION, A BIT OF GIVE AND TAKE AND WHAT THEY WANT US TO FOCUS ON AND THAT THEY COULD ASK US.
WHAT TELL US TELL US WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES IN THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR US TO GET MORE DETAIL INTO AND AND WE COULD ALSO SUGGEST TO THEM WHAT WE THINK ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE BEST MAYBE YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS IS FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THE AGENDA PUBLISHES HER COUNCIL, THEY WILL HAVE IT AT THAT POINT.
BUT YOU COME AND YOU MAKE A GENERALIZED PRESENTATION AND ASK FOR THEM TO GO AND REVIEW THE DOCUMENT WITH THOSE THOUGHTS IN MIND.
AND THEN WE COME FORWARD WITH A FORMAL AGENDA ITEM TO SEEK THEIR DIRECTION AND THEIR SUPPORT AND PERHAPS SOME INPUT IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION.
WHAT SHOULD WE BE WORKING ON FIRST? WHAT IS COUNCIL'S LARGEST PRIORITIES IN THIS DOCUMENT OR THAT IN ITSELF BECOMES AN AGENDA ITEM, PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE SPECIFIC DIRECTION.
BUT I THINK IT'S IF I MAY, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT GOES, BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE ONE COUNCIL PERSON SITTING THERE OR THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
AND I'M SURE THEY WANT TO GIVE IT A LOT OF THOUGHT.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR A WORKSHOP? YEAH, I WAS THINKING THAT, TOO.
I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE THE WAY THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO.
IF YOU TEE IT UP IN A PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'VE READ IT BEFORE THE PRESENTATION OR THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE HEARING IT TO BE DETERMINED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK AS AN ITEM.
IT MIGHT BE A. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH EVERYTHING AND ONE COUNCIL MEETING IN A WORKSHOP COULD BE GOOD, LIKE A JOINT OR COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
NOOR, YOU HAD SAID EARLIER, SUZANNE, THAT YOUR MIND WORKS WHEN YOU WERE READING IT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY KNEW QUICKLY AND THEN YOU MENTIONED FIVE YEARS, MAYBE THIS COULD BE THESE.
BOB. SHE PRESENTS AND WORKS WITH THE COUNCIL.
THIS COULD BE OUR PRESENTATION, BASICALLY.
NOW YOU SEE GIVING THE PLAN LIFE, WHAT JUMPS OUT AT YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TELL COUNCIL NOT? OR THEY HAVE TOO MUCH TO CATCH UP TO US THAT WE COULD PRESENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE COULD HAVE SLIDES AND THINGS IN OUR TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION OF THINGS THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED ON THIS TIMETABLE AND JUST PULL OUT.
LIKE, I ALSO SEE BUILDING IN NOT JUST ONE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE GO AWAY FOR A YEAR.
NEED TO HAVE SOME WAY OF KNOWING TO BE IN FRONT OF ACCOUNTS.
REPRESENTATIVE, EVEN IF IT'S THAT THREE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT OR SOMETHING, BUT FOR SURE.
SAID EARLIER, MAKES ME EXCITING AND DOABLE AND.
WORKSHOP DOES ALLOW US TO FLESH OUT THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF THEM, BECAUSE I'M ALMOST SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, IN TIME FOR, YOU KNOW, MEETING AND MEMORIZING AND EVERYTHING.
SO I THINK WHAT WOULD WORK IS IF, ONE, WE GIVE OUR GENERAL PRESENTATION OF WHAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IS HERE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE DOCUMENTS AND THESE ARE OUR PLANS AND WHAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN WE WANT TO DO A WORKSHOP WITH THE COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE SOME OF THESE ITEMS ON THE LIST. SO IT'S THE OVERALL ARGUING THAT, HEY, WE ARE HERE.
IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THE WHOLE THING, COME TO THE WORKSHOP.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS OUR PRIORITIES.
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE.
THESE ARE THE STUFF THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS, COME IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE WANT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH YOU.
TO ME, THAT WOULD BE A SIMPLE WAY OF.
LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A DOCUMENT.
WE HAVE TO CAN WE GO RIGHT TO A WORKSHOP LIKE POTENTIALLY LIKE SO COULD WE, FOR EXAMPLE, INSTEAD OF PRESENTING IN FRONT OF A COUNCIL IN A FORMAL MEETING IN JULY, COULD AT THE TAIL END OF JULY OR THE VERY BEGINNING OF AUGUST, COULD WE PRESENT IN A WORKSHOP AND ESSENTIALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, OUR END GOAL IS THAT THIS WOULD BE ADOPTED BY THE CITY, IT
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WILL BE AND WILL INFLUENCE THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY BEFORE WE PRESENT IT TO YOU FORMALLY FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING. WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK.SO HERE'S A 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT'S KIND OF WHY YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, UM, SO WE'RE PROBABLY ON THE SAME PAGE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO? YEAH.
SO WHAT WE COULD DO PROCEDURALLY IS AS ONE OF MY REPORT ITEMS AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, I CAN TELL THE COUNCIL THAT THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
YOU KNOW, THEY'VE FLESHED OUT THE PLAN.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP AND SHARE THE DETAILS WITH YOU.
AND THEN IF THEY GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO SCHEDULE THAT OR WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD THAT JULY DATE, WHETHER WHEREVER THAT CAME FROM, THAT'S NOT A HARD AND FAST.
I MEAN, SO WHATEVER DATE YOU WANTED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP OR WHATEVER, WE WOULD BE WORKING ON PUTTING THAT INTO THE SCHEDULE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ANYWAY.
SO IT COULD VERY WELL BE, YOU KNOW, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER AT THIS POINT.
I THINK SO. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VOTE TO APPROVE IT.
IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME TO BE PRESENTING IT TO THEM IN A WORKSHOP FORMAT THAT'S MORE CONVERSATIONAL. AND I DO THINK THERE'S WISDOM, IN MY OPINION, IN KICKSTARTING THAT CONVERSATION WITH A PRESENTATION THAT PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW, THAT'S MY YOU KNOW, MY ASSUMPTION. AND SO WHAT I PROPOSE FOR US TO MAYBE DISCUSS IS IF WE'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT, AGAIN, WITH A WORKSHOP, GET FEEDBACK.
AND WE WORKSHOP IT RIGHT AWAY AND THEN COME BACK FOR APPROVAL.
UM, MAYBE AT OUR NEXT, YOU KNOW, ADVISORY BOARD MEETING NEXT MONTH.
UM, WE COULD I MEAN, WE COULD ACTUALLY WE CAN CREATE THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER, RIGHT. AND SO WE CAN EITHER HAVE ONE PERSON GO CREATE IT AND THEN, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING TO START WORKING WITH.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY NEXT MEETING, WE COULD IRON OUT THE DETAILS OF WHAT OUR PRESENTATION WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STARTING OFF IN THE RIGHT FOOT WITH CITY COUNCIL IN THE WORKSHOP. THAT'LL GIVE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BECAUSE HOPEFULLY THE CITY COUNCIL SAY THEY WON'T BE WITH US. AND SO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WILL HAVE TIME THEN TO PLAN AND THEN WE COULD GO FROM THERE. IT PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IN YOUR PRESENTATION EARLIER IN JULY, THE RIGHT, IF WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING TO PUT US ON THE AGENDA AND YOU'RE JUST BRINGING UP THE REQUEST FOR A WORKSHOP, CAN YOU DO THAT? I WOULDN'T MAKE THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BUT YEAH, I WOULD JUST IT'S A PROCEDURAL ITEM.
SO FROM TIME TO TIME WHEN IT'S UNDER MY REPORTS ON THE AGENDA, TOWARD THE END, I MIGHT ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, I'M REQUESTING TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? THEY SAY YES. AND OF COURSE, IF WE GOT A SCHEDULE SO THAT CAN STILL BE ON THE AGENDA, THEN. YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU ALL ASKED ME TO THE FIRST MEETING, THE NEXT MEETING IS JULY 1ST NEXT WEEK SO I COULD BRING THAT UP AS AN ITEM NEXT WEEK AND ASK THEM.
AND I'VE ALREADY FORWARD QUICKLY.
RIGHT. AND IF YOU'RE READY AND THAT'S PART OF GOING BACK TO MY EARLIER QUESTION, YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE PLAN AS IT STANDS TODAY AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND TIME BUILDING AN EXTRA. GOALS AND TIME FRAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN, YES, THEN WE CAN DO THAT IF YOU'RE READY FOR IT. I JUST WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WE DO THAT. I THINK THAT'S MY THING BECAUSE.
MAYBE I'LL MAYBE I'LL JUST SAY WHAT I THINK WE'RE ALL THINKING.
I THINK THE TOUGH THING IS WE'RE HOLDING IN BALANCE TWO THINGS.
I THINK WE ALL WANT A PLAN THAT SPELLS OUT SPECIFIC METRICS.
AND THERE'S A SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT MEASURING IT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH IT. RIGHT. I KNOW WE'RE THERE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE'VE FELT THAT THIS PLAN HAS EXISTED IN THIS PURGATORY OF PLACES.
AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN.
AND SO SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND JUST HOLDING THOSE TWO THINGS IN TENSION. I THINK HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH CITY COUNCIL AND OF CITY COUNCIL SAYS, LOOK, WE'RE NOT APPROVING THIS WITHOUT METRICS.
AND, WELL, WE'VE GOT OUR ANSWER AND WE'RE GOING TO GO GET SOME METRICS.
SO THE WORKSHOP WOULD BE ABOUT WHAT, JUST AS TO SHARE THEM THE INFORMATION WITHOUT CARING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE ASKING THEM IF THEIR METRICS.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE JUST WE HAVE THE MEETING IS INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
THAT'S NOT A WORKSHOP. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WELL, I THINK THE IDEA IS IT WOULD JUST START WITH AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING JUST SO THEY YOU KNOW, YOU MAY YOU MAY KNOW WORKSHOP IS ACTUALLY A WORK YOU'RE COMING TO PUT TOGETHER.
LISTEN, AND THEN PUT TOGETHER TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT.
I'M JUST SAYING THE CONVERSATION WOULD START WITH LIKE A FIVE, 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION.
OH, YEAH. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
OH, OK. AND THEN IT WOULD GO RIGHT UP UNTIL THE WORKSHOP IS.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT OUR CITY MANAGER AND HER.
ITEM OR HER UPTAKES, MY REPORT, YOUR REPORT REQUESTS OF THE COUNCIL TO MEET WITH US FOR A
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WORKSHOP AND THEN I DON'T WHENEVER WE WANT THAT DATE TO BE AND THEN AT THAT WORKSHOP, WE DO WHAT YOU ALL HAVE JUST BEEN DISCUSSING.WE PRESENT THE PLAN TO THEM A SMALL SNIPPET OF HERE'S WHERE WE ARE AND THEN WE WORK WITH THEM ON. THEY AGREE WITH WHERE THESE PRIORITIES ARE.
AND. WHERE YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT THEY WOULD PUT AS THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE ARE ALREADY BEHIND US THERE, WE'RE ALREADY INCORPORATING THEIR PRIORITIES BEFORE THEN.
OK, WE TAKE THAT DO THAT WORK AND BRING IT BACK OR AN ACTUAL.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? I WONDER AT THE WORKSHOP IF WE COULD ALSO INCORPORATE INVITING THE OTHER ADVISORY OR THOSE 13 OTHER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE INABILITY.
NOT A DISCUSSION, AT LEAST BE IN THE AUDIENCE.
UH. YEAH, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE CUMBERSOME ENOUGH WITH THE COUNCIL, I THINK, WITH GOING OVER THE PLAN AND ESPECIALLY I DON'T SEE THE POINT OF INVITING MORE BOARDS AND UNTIL WE GET THE PLAN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK IF IT'S A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOP, THEN IT'S FOR THE COUNCIL. AND ONCE WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL THINGS, LOOKING AT ORDINANCES AND AN EXPANSION DOCUMENT, TO ME, THAT'S WHEN NOW WHERE I WOULD TRY TO ENCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE TO BE A PART OF IT, SINCE IT'S GOING TO TOUCH ORDINANCES AND DIFFERENT THINGS JUST TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND. I'LL JUST WORK WITH THE.
OH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PICTURE.
I WAS HOPING TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.
GO AHEAD. I'M I'M I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF REQUESTING A WORKSHOP AT THIS TIME BECAUSE, FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OR AN UNDERSTANDING OF EXACTLY WHAT WORK WE WOULD INTEND TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHAT OUR ASK OF COUNSEL WOULD BE AT THAT EXACT JUNCTURE. AND I THINK THAT ASKING FOR A WORKSHOP AND ADDING WHETHER IT'S AN ADDITIONAL HOUR OR TWO HOURS ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL'S MONTHLY AGENDA IS A HUGE ASK.
THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE BUSY MEN AND WOMEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY AM IN SUPPORT OF US PRESENTING IN THE THE FORMAL CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION AND WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE.
AND MISS SHERMAN SHARED US WITH THOSE.
IT'S THERE'S A CERTAIN SECTION OF THE AGENDA FOR PRESENTATIONS.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THAT, WHICH IS WHY AT OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING, I MADE A MOTION WHICH WAS SECONDED AND VOTED ON BY THE BOARD.
AND I REMEMBER BUT I DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER BECAUSE IT'S IN THE NOTE IN THE MINUTES.
I MADE A MOTION FOR EXACTLY THAT IN THE COURSE OF A CONVERSATION THAT MY CALENDAR BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, WHICH THE MINUTES REFLECT, IS THAT WE WANT TO GET THIS PLAN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, IN THEIR HANDS AND DIGESTED WHILE THEY SIP A CUP OF COFFEE ON THEIR PORCH. WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THIS KNOWLEDGE AS THEY GO INTO THE FISCAL YEAR PLANNING PHASES. SO IF WE DON'T ACT EXPEDITIOUSLY AND WE DON'T GET ENOUGH AND DARE I SAY, NOT TOO MUCH INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEM BEFORE THEY GO INTO THEIR BUDGET PLANNING, AND AS THE CITY DEPARTMENTS GO INTO THEIR BUDGET PLANNING, WE'RE REALLY NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH IMPACT FROM DOLLARS AND CENTS PERSPECTIVE TO CARRY US INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE BUDGETING, PLANNING, I'M MUSHROOMING CAN CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT PUT A DATE TO IT. BUT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 60, 90, 120 DAYS.
IT'S GOING TO BE OVER WITH. AND IF WE GO TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED A WORKSHOP, THEN WE PUT THE WORKSHOP ON THE BOOKS, THEN WE CRUNCH INFORMATION WITH WITH THE COUNCIL DURING THE WORKSHOP.
THEN WE LOOK FOR A COUNCIL MEETING TO TO GET ONTO.
IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DONE ANYWHERE NEAR WHEN THE BUDGETING IS DONE. NOW, WHEN WE SPOKE WITH MISCOUNTING, BROUGHT THIS CONVERSATION UP LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT DOING IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND FROM A PRESENTATION PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION OF AS A BOARD AND AGAIN, IT WAS MY MOTION, BUT IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD THAT I MADE THE MOTION AND WE ALL VOTED FOR IT.
JULY 15TH WAS THE SOONEST DATE.
MISS CALENDAR DIDN'T FEEL CONFIDENT ON MAY 18TH THAT WE COULD GET ON THAT JULY 1ST AGENDA AND IT BE EFFECTIVE IN THE TIMETABLE.
SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE REALLY MUDDYING THE WATERS WITH THIS CONVERSATION.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO WE NEED TO PRESENT THE PLAN TO COUNCIL.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN ONE OF MY PRIOR MOTIONS, I ASK THAT WE STRIP IT OF PICTURES OR ANYTHING ELSE AND JUST MAKES IT A TEXTUAL DOCUMENT.
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I WANT ALL FIVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO READ THIS THING.PEOPLE CHAIR CHAIRPERSON BYRD, BEING THE LONGEST TENURED, HAVE WORKED ON THIS FOR YEARS.
AND I WANT IT TO GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BEFORE THEY MAKE THEIR FISCAL YEAR DECISIONS.
WHETHER THOSE ARE DIRECT DECISIONS OR MUCH MORE LIKELY, WHAT WERE TO INFLUENCE IS INDIRECTLY WE'RE GOING TO INFLUENCE THEIR MOVE.
WE'RE GOING TO INFLUENCE HOW THEY FEEL WHEN THEY MAKE DECISIONS AND TO FURTHERMORE TO MAKE CALENDARS POINT THAT SHE BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING AS WELL.
IT'S GOING TO BE A GOAL OF OURS ONCE WE GET AN ENDORSEMENT ON THIS PLAN TO ACTUALLY BRING IT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CALENDAR SET UP.
TIMETABLE WISE, THE IDEA THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BEFORE BUDGETING IF WE PRESENTED BY JULY 15.
AND NOW AT THIS POINT, WE'RE SCRAPPING THE WHOLE PLAN.
SO I DO NOT SUPPORT A REQUEST FOR A WORKSHOP.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE WE'RE A BOARD AND THERE'S EMOTION.
THERE'S A SECOND YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO VOTE, AND THAT'S FINE.
BUT I'M SHARING WITH THE BOARD NOW THAT I'LL BE A DAY ON THAT.
OK, CAN I GO ON? SINCE THEN, I THINK WE ARE IN STRONG AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT ACTION.
RIGHT. SO AND WE WANT BUDGET ACTION.
WE WANT THIS TO HAPPEN IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO THAT GOAL IS COMMON ACROSS THE BOARD.
WE WE HAVE NEVER PRESENTED ANYTHING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT ALL, AND I I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AS FAR AS WHAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET THEM TO DIGEST IT, BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS WHEN THEY THEY GET IT OUT OF THIN AIR AND IT'S A HUGE DOCUMENT.
IN ONE NIGHT WE GET TEN MINUTES.
IS THAT IS THAT REALISTIC TO EXPECT AN APPROVAL? WELL, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU, AND IT'S THE TIMING IS CHALLENGING, SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE A COUPLE OF YOU AREN'T EVEN AVAILABLE FOR THE 15TH.
THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE CHALLENGE.
BUT MOVING THAT ASIDE, WHAT YOU WOULD NEED TO KNOW IS WE RAN THE BUDGET PROCESS ANYWAY RIGHT NOW. AND CLEARLY, I'M LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND I MEAN, I'VE ALREADY TOLD STAFF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUT OUR FIRST ELECTRIC VEHICLE IN THE BUDGET. WE WILL TRY TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT I'M AWARE OF WE SHOULD BE DOING. SO THAT ASIDE, WHERE WE'RE AT IS BY MID-JULY, I WILL HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET DOCUMENT CREATED AND GIVEN TO COUNCIL.
THE FIRST DATE WE'RE HOLDING FOR THE FIRST FORUM, SO WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY, AND THAT WAS OUR SORT OF PREVIEW OF WHAT WE WANT TO GO WITH THE NEW YORK BUDGET AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET. SO THEY'VE TOLD US SOME THINGS THAT TELL US THEY WANT CERTAIN ITEMS INCLUDED. AND THEY'VE ALSO GIVEN US A SENSE OF WHERE THE MILITARY SHOULD BE IN THAT JUST GENERAL CONVERSATION SO EARLY IN MAY.
I THINK IT'S MAYBE THAT TUESDAY, THE FIRST TUESDAY, AND I'M SORRY THAT FIRST TUESDAY IN AUGUST IS WHEN WE HAVE OUR FIRST WORKSHOP WITH COUNCIL BASED ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHERE EVERYTHING WILL KIND OF ALREADY BE IN THEIR.
THEN WE HAVE TWO MORE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS IN AUGUST AND THEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.
SO WE'RE ALREADY LIKE DEEP IN THE WEEDS ON THINGS.
IF YOU DECIDE YOU DO WANT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AND ONE OF THE JULY MEETINGS BETWEEN NEXT WEEK AND THERE'S ONE ON THE 15TH, IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD SOMEHOW BE PREPARED TO SAY THESE ARE THE MINIMAL THINGS WE'D LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE YOU CONSIDER IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT I'M TELLING YOU, WE'RE ALSO VERY FAR ALONG IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
I HAVE THE LIST OF ALL THE REQUESTS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.
I CAN'T FUND EVEN, YOU KNOW, A THIRD OF THEM AT THIS POINT.
SO THE BUDGET IS ALREADY VERY TIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH BASED ON WHERE AND TIME, TIME AND SPACE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, SO I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO GET A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF LIKE REPEAT BACK TO YOU WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING.
THAT WAY I DON'T WALK AWAY CONFUSED WITH A MISCONCEPTION.
ALTHOUGH NOTHING'S TECHNICALLY SET IN STONE RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE BEING VERY CAUTIOUS TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, IT'S UNCLEAR, PROBABLY UNLIKELY THAT NO MATTER WHICH METHOD WE WENT WITH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON THE BUDGET.
I THINK THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE NEEDLE MOVEMENT MAYBE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DOLLARS TO PLAY WITH RIGHT NOW.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU SAY YOU CAN'T EVEN FUND THE CURRENT BUDGET.
EXCUSE ME, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS YOU ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE SOURCES FOR SOME THINGS IF POSSIBLE.
ABSOLUTELY. GRANTS CAN BE ON THE AGENDA ANY TIME, ANY TIME.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADD TO TO YOUR STATEMENT, BECAUSE REALISTICALLY, WE PREPARED THIS DOCUMENT, CAME BEFORE THEM, GIVE THEM A 10 MINUTES PRESENTATION IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY. THEY WILL APPROVE IT.
SO IT WILL ACTUALLY END UP IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSIONS AND PLUS
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WE HAVE NO MATRIX.SO ALTHOUGH WE ALL WANTED TO PUSH IT TO GO THROUGH, BUT THERE'S NO MATRIX, SO THERE'S NOTHING TO REALLY APPROVE PER SAY.
SO THE WORKSHOP IDEA, I THINK GIVE I MEAN, GENERALLY, AS I SAID, IF YOU JUST WANTED TO GO AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MEET US AT A WORKSHOP FOR MORE DETAILS, THAT'S GREAT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE.
BUT I THINK TO BE ANYTHING TO GET ANYTHING EFFECTIVELY DONE, THE WORKSHOP IS THE WAY TO GO SO THAT NOW WE ARE HAMMERING OUT ALL THE MATRIX WITH THEM AND SO KNOW THEY CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE PLANS ARE GOING FORWARD.
WHEN IT COMES TO GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS, STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME IDEA BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOMETHING.
SO THE REALITY OF IT IS WE PROBABLY WON'T GET IN THE BUDGET, AS IT WERE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS IN TEN MINUTES ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE. BUT THE WORKSHOP TO ME IS THE WAY TO GO.
AND I ALSO SORT OF GOT TO INTERJECT I'M SORRY, I JUST I TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE THERE'S A SHORT TERM, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG GAME, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE HAD A LOT OF PROGRESS.
YOU'LL PROBABLY START WORKING ON ORDNANCES.
WE WILL HAVE KNOWN SORT OF MORE YOUR PRIORITIES ON THINGS THAT MAYBE WE WANT TO APPLY FOR GRANTS ON, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A LOT MORE TRACTION NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
I WOULD SUSPECT IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW TO FIT THAT ALL IN, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHERE YOU'RE AT. I THINK IT'S WORTH TRYING TO GET IT IN FRONT OF IN THE HANDS OF COUNCIL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T EXCLUDE A WORKSHOP LATER, BUT JUST TO GIVE A SHORT PRESENTATION AND LET THEM TAKE IT HOME AND LOOK IT OVER, BECAUSE FOR ME, GOING STRAIGHT TO A WORKSHOP WITH A DOCUMENT THEY HAVEN'T READ IS GOING TO BE A WASTE OF TIME. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE READING IT.
AND THERE IS JUST A LOT TO DIGEST EVEN IN ONE, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK A SHORT TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION JUST TO GIVE IT TO THEM THAT THEY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND TO HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT ON THEIR OWN TIME.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO FORCE A WORKSHOP ON ANYONE WHO'S ALREADY PRESSED FOR TIME.
IF WE'RE DOING THAT PRESENTATION, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON IT HERE. SO, YES, IT'S OUR CHAIR TO BE HERE.
I ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE OVERWHELMING TO HAVE ALL OF US THERE.
I THINK JUST LIKE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THERE.
NO, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE ONE OF THEM NECESSARILY.
BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE SOME GOOD SPEAKERS HERE.
I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO SPEAK, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO BE WORKING FOREVER.
I'M TOTALLY OK WITH NOT BEING THERE.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE THERE, OF COURSE, BUT I DON'T WANT MY ABSENCE TO END PROHIBITED BY ANY MEANS. I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH THAT.
MY GOAL, WHICH I THINK IS A COMMON GOAL, IS THAT IT GET APPROVED.
AND THAT IT GET FUNDED AND GETTING IT FUNDED RIGHT NOW DOES NOT SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT MONTH. SO I'M SO IN LIEU OF FOCUSING ON THAT.
HOW DO WE GET BY IN? AND. MAYBE IT'S BOTH THAT WE DO A TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION TO JUST PRESENT THIS IS IT, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THEN AND FOR THEM TO DIGEST IT AND TO REALLY BUY INTO IT.
THERE WOULD NEED TO BE, I THINK, A LOT OF DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THIS IS BRAND NEW AND IT'S A LARGE DOCUMENT. SO I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS MAYBE IT'S BOTH.
WELL, I'LL JUST I MEAN, I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WERE BRINTON'S THIS WAS A STAFF DOCUMENT.
WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD DO A 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION.
I WOULD ASK COUNSEL TO LOOK AT IT SORT OF HOLISTICALLY AND BIG PICTURE.
AND I WOULD SAY WHAT I NEED YOU TO CONSIDER IS WE HAVE FIVE CATEGORIES.
YOU THINK THOSE CATEGORIES ARE GOOD AND WE MISSED SOMETHING.
AND THEN I WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT HOW WE FORMATTED THIS.
AND WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE GOVERNMENTS AND COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS GOALS.
AND THEN I WOULD ASK THEM TO LOOK AT THOSE AND SPEND TIME KIND OF DIGESTING WHAT ALL THAT MEANS AND THEN COME PREPARED FOR A DISCUSSION, EITHER AT A WORKSHOP OR AT ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO COME AND SAY, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT.
I THINK YOU DO NEED A TOP MOMENT WHEN THAT IS FOR ALL OF YOU, YOU CAN DECIDE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO, BECAUSE YOU DO NEED TO GIVE THEM SOME CONTEXT FOR WHAT EXACTLY AM I DECIDING? YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THEY'RE DECIDING IS, DO YOU HOLISTICALLY AGREE WITH YOU HAVE A LOT OF VERY BIG OVERARCHING GOALS OR EASY TO GET INTO AND UNDERSTAND? THEY'LL READ IT AND SOME WILL AGREE WITH, SOME THEY WON'T.
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YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE AND THEN COME BACK FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL AND HAVE IT, WHETHER, LIKE I SAID, WORKSHOP, I REALLY THINK IT JUST IT'S A TIMING SPOT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR NEXT AVAILABILITY IS FOR A WORKSHOP DATE YET.SO MAYBE YOU DO HAVE TO SQUEEZE IT INTO AN AGENDA.
IF YOU DO THAT, I'D RECOMMEND THE SECOND MEETING IN A IN A MONTH BECAUSE THAT ONE USUALLY HAS A TINY BIT LESS ON THE AGENDA, DOESN'T HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIT INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE, THEN I WOULD SAY LIKE THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST IS PROBABLY YOUR YOUR NEXT BEST ONE TO HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC CONVERSATION IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT AND THEN DO A PRESENTATION, TEEING IT UP SOMEWHERE IN JULY OR, YOU KNOW.
JUST SOME PLACE TO START, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT I'M ALSO TRYING TO HELP YOU GET TO A. DECISION.
NOW, YOU'VE GONE NUCLEAR OPTION HERE.
WELL, WELL, WHERE WE HAVE THE FULL BOARD AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TEN MINUTES, BUT WE COULD DO A BRIEF, LIKE YOU SAID, JUST.
FIVE AREAS, BUT THE OVERALL HOW TO READ IT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY, ET CETERA, AND THEN I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, OTHER SUSTAINABILITY BOARDS INVITED OR AT LEAST KNOW THAT THEY ARE PRESENTING SOMETHING AND AND ALSO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO FORMALLY INVITE PEOPLE. AND BUT TO HAVE THIS SHORT.
LESLIE. AND BASED ON YOUR TIMING, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TIME TO DO A VIDEO UNLESS YOU'RE JUST DOING A QUICK LIKE I'M HOLDING IT IN FRONT OF ME AND DOING THE LIKE A QUICK VERSION, IF YOU WANT, LIKE A CORAL POLISH ONE, I WOULD JUST SAY GO FOR AN IN-PERSON 10 MINUTES, KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK BECAUSE SPOKESPERSON TEE IT UP AND THEN.
YOU KNOW, BRING IT BACK FOR A VOTE AND A FUTURE MEETING.
I WOULD. I WOULD DO THE SPEAKING AT A PRESENTATION, AND IF I CAN DO THAT ON VIDEO AND THAT WOULD HELP, I WOULD DO THAT AS WELL.
I'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT. I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, A MOTION HERE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
WE WE DO HAVE IT ON THE 15TH, IF WE KEEP IT ON THE 15TH, ONE OF US HAS TO VOLUNTEER TO REPRESENT THIS. RIGHT.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT I THINK WE AS A BOARD NEED TO KIND OF DECIDE BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT HERE. I'M SORRY.
IS THE BOARD COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PRESENTATION IS I WOULD WE WE CAN'T WORK ON A PRESENTATION OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING.
WE'RE NOT, I DON'T THINK, PUTTING PRESENTATION TOGETHER TONIGHT.
IF WE'RE PRESENTING ON JULY 15, WE HAVE TO PICK SOMEONE, THEY GO PRESENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT, WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.
THEY'RE GOING TO REPRESENT ALL OF OUR MINDSETS, A LOT OF THINGS.
THIS IS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS.
GOD BLESS THEM. IT'S FRUSTRATING, I DON'T LIKE IT.
IS IT BEST TO SAY THAT EITHER A, WE'RE TOGETHER ANOTHER SPECIAL MEANING, OR B, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL OUR JULY MEETING AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE A, SOMEONE WHO DURING THAT MONTH COME UP WITH A PRESENTATION? WELL, THEN SHOW THE PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AND WE CAN ENSURE THAT IT ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE MINDSET OF THE WHOLE BOARD.
AND I I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.
I KNOW THIS IS NOT A ROADBLOCK WE WANT.
I'M REALLY SYMPATHETIC TO THAT.
I JUST I ALSO KNOW HOW TOUGH IT WOULD BE TO GO ALL THIS WAY AND HAVE THIS BE A MISSTEP.
SO I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT DECIDES WITH THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE AND IT REALLY DECIDES AT THE END OF THE DAY, JULY 15TH MEANS THAT SOMEBODY IS PRESENTING.
NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO SEE THAT PRESENTATION BEFORE MAYBE WE CAN WORK OUR STAFF ON IT, YOU KNOW, BUT OTHER THAN THAT.
BE AUGUST. I GUESS IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR NEXT MEETING IN JULY TO BE THE ONE WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION AND SHARED AMONG THE TEAM, THEN YOU COULD COME TO LIKE THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST, FOR EXAMPLE, TO DO YOUR PRESENTATION DEPENDING ON TIMING OF EVERYTHING.
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THIRD OR THE FOURTH? THE TWENTY EIGHT, THAT'S THE FOURTH.OH. IT SOUNDS LIKE AND IN A WORLD THINKING, UM, BUT JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE, THE ONE OF ONE OF TWO MOTIONS, EITHER MOTION, ONE WOULD BE WE ELECT A SPOKESPERSON, A SPOKESPERSON WHO WILL DEVELOP A PRESENTATION AND PRESENT ON JULY 15TH.
AND WE AND THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT UP WITH A WORKSHOP OR, YOU KNOW, MEETING WHEN WE COME IN AND ASK FOR A VOTE, OR THE SECOND MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE WILL SIGN SOMEONE WHO WILL CREATE A PRESENTATION AND THEN PRESENT TO THE BOARD ON JULY 28. AND THEN THE BOARD WILL ENSURE THAT THEIR PRESENTATION ACCURATELY REFLECTS EVERYONE ON THE BOARD AS PROBABLY A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRESENTATION AND WILL PRESENT IN AUGUST.
AND SAME THING EITHER FOLLOW UP WITH A WORKSHOP OR FOLLOW UP ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ASK THEM TO VOTE. AND THAT'S WHERE.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY IS BOLD ENOUGH TO.
I GOT ONE OF THOSE. I'LL JUMP IN.
OK, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. THAT WASN'T ME.
GO AHEAD. I CAME TO THIS MEETING FULLY PREPARED FOR WHAT WE HAD AS OUR PUBLISHED DOCUMENT IN OUR AGENDA PACKET TO BE OUR FINAL VERSION, MAYBE SOME MINOR TWEAKS, AND FOR THIS MEETING TO BE WHERE WE CHOSE WHO WAS GOING TO SPEAK, WE MADE THE PRESENTATION, CAME HERE PREPARED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE LEFT OFF THE CONVERSATION AT OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO PICK ONE PERSON TO SPEAK, BECAUSE I TRULY DO THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE MOST EFFECTIVE. I PERSONALLY WAS GOING TO JUMP AT THE AT THE CHANCE TO MOTION TO HAVE OUR CHAIRPERSON DO IT, AND BYRD IS THE PERSON THAT SHOULD PRESENT THIS.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED YOU'RE GOING ON VACATION.
SO I WILL NOT LAMENT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE AROUND ON JULY 15TH.
BUT THAT'S WHAT TOTALLY BREAK THEM FOR ME, BECAUSE IF JULY 15TH WAS A DOABLE DATE FOR OUR CHAIR, I WOULD BE ADAMANTLY TRYING TO KEEP US ON THAT COURSE.
WE'RE ALREADY LATE IN THE EVENING, BUT I WOULD BE ACTIVELY SAYING, STICK WITH IT, LET'S HAVE OUR CHAIRPERSON DO IT.
LET'S TELL HER THE SPARK NOTES THAT WE WANT TO GIVE HER AND LET'S LET'S EMPOWER HER AND SEND HER OUT TO DO THAT. NOT A CHOICE.
I'M NOT SURE. SHE'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE JULY 15TH MEETING, THE JULY 1ST MEETING, EVEN IF SHE IS IN TOWN.
THAT'S ASKING HER TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
AND TO YOUR POINT, MR. SNYDER, RUN WITH IT WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE YOU KNOW, IT THROUGH. SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, THIS IS REALLY HARD TO TO THINK THROUGH.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED, WHICH I'M KIND OF GLAD THAT WE DID SHINE LIGHT ON THAT DIRECTLY. WE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE OF INFLUENCING THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.
I STILL THINK THAT THERE'S A HECK OF A CHANCE OF AN INDIRECT INFLUENCE, AND THAT'S WHY I DO WANT TO GET THINGS THROUGH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT UNREASONABLE ENOUGH TO NOT SEE THE MERITS OF, YOU KNOW, SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE BEST PROCESS POSSIBLE.
TO MY INITIAL POINT THAT THAT STARTED THIS STREAM OF CONVERSATION, I DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR A WORKSHOP BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NEED IT.
AND IN THIS PAST FEW MINUTES OF CONVERSATION, I THINK THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN AT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THAT MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE TO ME, EITHER.
EXAMPLE, EVEN IF WE TOOK THE WORKSHOP AND RAN WITH IT AND GOT ONE SOON AND WHATEVER, WE STILL WOULD BE IN A POSITION THAT IT WOULD BE THE AUGUST, DARE I SAY IT, SEPTEMBER TIME FRAME BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY IN WHAT WE'LL CALL A FINALIZED STATE.
SO THERE'S A LOT HERE TO MR. SNYDER'S PREVIOUS POINT, THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT HERE.
WE CAN'T ASK THE CHAIRPERSON TO PRESENT ON THE 15TH AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN SHE'S NOT HERE. I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE PERSONALLY VOLUNTEERING TO DO IT IN LIEU OF THE CHAIRPERSON. I FEEL THAT THAT'S HER HER PRIVILEGE TO HAVE.
NOW, OF COURSE, IF SHE SAYS OTHERWISE, THEN WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO'S DRAWN STRAWS. BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I SAID A LOT.
I'M NOT REALLY THERE'S A FEW ACTIONABLE ITEMS IN THERE, BUT I'M GOING TO RELY ON ON YOU GUYS, MY COLLEAGUES HERE TO TO BRING IT ALL INTO A PARTICULAR MOTION OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD HERE. BUT I THINK THAT ALL OF MY OPINIONS HAVE BEEN SHARED AT THIS POINT.
I'LL JUST ADD, I, I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT AS I WAS, I WOULDN'T WANT HER NOT TO MISS IT. HOWEVER, I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THE AUGUST MEETING TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL WANTED TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE ALL COULD GO AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT.
WE COME HERE ON THE 28TH, WE PREPARE OUR DOCUMENT.
WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S GOING TO DO.
THE SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST, YOU PRESENT.
THEN WE ASK FOR A WORKSHOP IF NECESSARY, AND WE GO AT LEAST IT GETS BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
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AND I MEAN I MEAN, I KNOW WE WANT TO RUSH IT, BUT I THINK THE FEW WEEKS WOULDN'T KILL US.AND I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE, UM, LESLIE BIRD WORK WITH THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT A DATE THAT WORKS FOR HER TO MEET WITH TO PRESENT THE PLAN TO COUNCIL AT THEIR MEETING.
WE GET TO ASK TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT, SO CORRECT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN SCHEDULE. I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE OFFICIALLY ASK THAT AT A MEETING.
IT'S JUST PART OF BUILDING THE AGENDA.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE MEETINGS IN AUGUST ARE THE FIFTH IN THE 19TH.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO MEET THE WEEK BEFORE ON THE 28TH, THAT MIGHT BE A SHORT TURNAROUND, BUT PRESENTATIONS DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF PREP.
SO YOU COULD MAKE THE AUGUST 5TH OR THE EIGHTH OR NINTH, I THINK, BASED ON YOUR SCHEDULE AVAILABILITY TO DO A PRESENTATION AND MAKE A MOTION.
AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS I'M SORRY.
THE REASON I KEEP RECOMMENDING THE SECOND MEETING IN A MONTH IS BECAUSE THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH HAS A LOT OF PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS, BUT IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE A FAIRLY LONG MEETING.
OF COURSE, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF ALONG, I GUESS, BUT.
YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF HAVING A SHORTER MEETING AND A LITTLE MORE LIKE YOU DON'T WANT COUNSEL ME THINKING I'VE GOT 20 MORE THINGS TO DO.
LET'S HURRY ALONG, YOU KNOW? I MEAN. THAT'S.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE 19TH IS THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST, WE WOULD BE DUE TO RECONVENE ON THE 25TH OF AUGUST.
WE'VE WE'VE PREPPED A PRESENTATION FOR OUR DELEGATE WHO WILL GET TO FORMALLY VOTING FOR.
BUT WE ALL KNOW WHICH DIRECTION WE'RE HEADING THERE.
SO IF WE WERE TO IN THE COURSE OF OUR MEETING ON JULY 28TH, PREPARE A PRESENTATION TO BE HAD ON THE 19TH, THAT WOULD ALLOW US THAT FIRST INITIAL BIT OF TIME FOR COUNCIL TO REPORT BACK WITH ANY FEEDBACK THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
BUT THEN LESS THAN A WEEK LATER, WE'RE BACK TO MEETING AND WE CAN ALL LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND SAY, OK, IT'S BEEN SIX DAYS.
COUNCIL'S BEEN RADIO SILENT OR OH MY GOODNESS, IT WAS SO OVERWHELMING WITH ALL THE GREAT FEEDBACK THEY GAVE US. AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHAT MORE DO WE NEED FROM THEM? DO WE NEED TO JUST TALK HERE IN THIS AUGUST 25TH MEETING AND FIGURE SOME THINGS OUT AND THEN GIVE IT TO MISS CALLENDAR TO GET ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM? OR DO WE NEED A WORKSHOP OR DO WE NEED TO IN SOME SORT OF WAY GO BACK TO THEM? SO MY PROPOSITION HERE IS THAT WE PREPARE FOR A PRESENTATION ON THE 28TH OF JULY, HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE 19TH OF AUGUST AND RECAP THAT PRESENTATION AND DETERMINE A PATH FORWARD AT OUR SUBSEQUENT REGULAR MEETING ON THE 25TH OF AUGUST.
ANYBODY OPPOSED? I THINK WE SETTLED IT, OK? EASIEST MOTION EVER THERE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE BURDEN WILL BE OUR PERSON TO SECOND PRESENT THE PRESENTATION.
YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL PREPARE WHAT YOU WANT ME TO PRESENT.
AND SOME INTERESTING UPCOMING MEETINGS, COULD YOU AT OUR NEXT MEETING COULD HAVE LIKE AN OUTLINE OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THAT WE WERE KIND OF SOMETHING TO WORK FROM? I DO NEED TO ASK YOU NOW, IN LIGHT OF YOUR DISCUSSION AND YOUR PLANS, WE HAD TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED KUPERBERG BEAUTIFUL TO COME AND DO A PRESENTATION IN YOUR JULY AT YOUR JULY MEETING TO DISCUSS.
I'M POSTING. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, SHOULD STAFF ATTEMPT TO POSTPONE THAT MEETING SO THAT YOU CAN WORK ON THIS PLAN TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU NEED TO FOR A PRESENTATION? I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT AND WE SHOULD START MAKING THESE, WHICH IS A NORMAL HABIT, LIKE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND WE AND THEN WE GET TO OUR BUSINESS LONG AS OUR YOU KNOW.
OH, EVER LONG OR SHORT, YOU NEEDED TO BE IF I SEND OUT WITH THE AGENDA PACKET MY PROPOSED OUTLINE FOR A PRESENTATION THAT ME HURRY ALONG OUR CONVERSATION TO BE FASTER.
I'M POSTING THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH SUZANNE SHERMAN, AND SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS HAPPENING AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO TIE SOMETHING IN WITH OUR.
AN IDEA IF YOUR DIRECTION IS THAT WE KEEP THAT PRESENTATION, PERHAPS WE ASK FOR 10 OR 15 MINUTES AND SOME Q&A, AS YOU WISH.
BEFORE I FORGET, I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE COMPLAN WORKSHOP IS COMING UP, AND
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THAT'S ON JUNE THE 29TH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PRESENTATION HERE IN COUNCIL, JUNE 29TH.OUR SUSTAINABILITY WORKING GROUP SHOULD JUST ROUTINELY PROBABLY MENTION THAT, BRITTA.
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THINK ALWAYS THE FOURTH MONDAY ON, AND I KNOW IF YOU ARE MORE OF US ARE THERE, RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY. I'VE CONFIRMED WITH OUR CLERK'S OFFICE WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE RELATIVE TO AND RIGHT NOW IT'S STILL A VIRTUAL MEETING.AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT NOT ON OUR BOARD, BUT ON THE TWENTY SIXTH OF JUNE, WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATION AND IT'S GOING TO BE A FESTIVAL AND PARADE AT FRED POPI PARK IS GOING TO BE COSTUMES, FOOD, MUSIC, CELEBRATING CARIBBEAN HERITAGE IS COME ON.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, I CAN ALL IN FAVOR, I.
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