Jul 01, 2021 Council Meetings - Regular

SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, 2021, 17 TO ORDER.

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ALL RIGHT. LET US BOW OUR HEADS.

GOD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US, LORD, ANOTHER DAY, FATHER, TO DO THE WILL THAT YOU HAVE FOR OUR LIVES.

FATHER, WE PRAY FOR EVERY COUNCIL PERSON IN HERE, FOR EVERY CITY OFFICIAL, LORD JESUS, THAT YOU MAY GIVE THEM WISDOM, FATHER, TO MAKE DECISIONS, LORD, THAT ARE ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR WILL IN THE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY FATHER.

WE THANK YOU. WE PRAY THAT YOUR HOLY SPIRIT MAY JUST BRING PEACE IN THIS PLACE, LORD JESUS, THAT ULTIMATELY THAT YOUR WILL MAY BE DONE.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU, LORD JESUS.

AND WE GIVE YOU ALL THE GLORY IN THIS DAY IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. IT'S BASICALLY FIVE PER.

HE IS THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MS. LEFLER, ROLL CALL, PLEASE, NAME MEDINA, PRESENT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE, COUNCILMAN BAILEY PRESENT COUNCILMAN FOSTER IF COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

MS. SHERMAN MS. SMITH, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON YOU HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE.

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WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOARD, REPRESENT AT LARGE MEMBER WHO OWNS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR OPERATES A BUSINESS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

TWO VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS RESIDENTIAL HOMEBUILDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOMEBUILDING EMPLOYED WITHIN THE CITY FOR PROFIT PROVIDER OR NOT FOR PROFIT PROVIDER POSITIONS.

THREE VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY.

FLORIDA ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THREE FOUR ONE FOUR. ADAM SHERMAN I YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR, I HAVE THE FOLLOWING AGENDA, REVISIONS TO

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ALSO, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT ITEM NUMBER NINE UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS BE MOVED UP ON THE AGENDA AND HEARD AS THE FIRST ITEM UNDER PUBLIC HEARING.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

NO, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR, ITEMS FIVE, SEVEN, 16 AND 20 ARE BEING PULLED FROM THE CONTINGENT OF FIVE SEVEN.

16 AND 20.

THEY CONTAIN A MOTION COUNCIL.

[CONSENT AGENDA (Part 1 of 2)]

I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, I BELIEVE.

WAS THAT YOU, SIR? IT'S HARD TO MAKE A VISUAL.

ALL IN FAVOR, MARY, REAL QUICK, QUICK DISCUSSION.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ARE ON THAT CONSENT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, WHERE LEGAL LIABILITY TO PROCEED WITH CERTAIN CELLS, SPECIFICALLY WITHIN HOLIDAY PARK DID ONE AT LEAST NOTE FOR THE RECORD, TWO THINGS.

ONE IS POSITIVELY SPEAKING.

THESE THESE PARTICULAR PARCELS HAD VERY LOW OFFERS BACK IN DECEMBER, WHICH WE REJECTED.

I APPRECIATE COUNCIL SUPPORT.

NOW, MY MY INITIATIVE IN THAT AND WE'RE WE'VE ALREADY GAINED MORE THAN THREE CELLS THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE GAINED IN NINE CELLS TOTAL.

SO I THINK WE MADE THE RIGHT WISE DECISION IN DELAYING THAT.

THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE STILL SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THERE ARE STILL SOME OTHER CONCERNS I AM WORKING OUT WITH.

I DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH STAFF AT THIS SITE VISIT.

I ACTUALLY WENT TO LOOK AT THESE PARTICULAR ONES TO REMIND MYSELF WHICH ONES THEY ARE.

AND I STILL THINK THAT WE KNOW THERE IS STILL SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL WHAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THE LAND CELLS.

AND I'M WORKING ON THAT WITH ALL OF OUR CITY STAFF, CITY ATTORNEYS AS WELL.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'D NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT COMPLETELY IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, IT IS A BIG STEP FORWARD FROM WHERE WE WERE HAPPY THAT INDEED IT IS.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

I'VE GOT A SECOND BODY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SEEING AND HEARING? NONE. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

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[5. Contract: Road bond paving, Port Malabar Boulevard improvements, Change Order 5 - Public Works Department (Ranger Construction - $195,538 deductive amount).]

GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF REAL QUICK QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. THE FIRST ONE WAS TYPEDEF CURVING, I THOUGHT UNDER THE GOLD ROADS BONDS, THAT CURVING WAS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THE ROAD PAVING PROGRAM.

AND THE SECOND ITEM WAS JUST TELL ME WHY WE WERE NOT PUTTING THE EMULSION IN AND STICKING WITH STRAIGHT CONCRETE.

AND THEN ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THIS ONE WAS I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS WAS NOT AN EXPENDITURE. IT WAS MORE OF A IT WAS A SAVINGS, WHICH ON TAXPAYERS, THAT'S A GOOD THING WHEN WE HAVE SAVINGS. BUT I STILL HAVE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE WAY TO DO THAT.

AND ALSO AS A LAST MEETING I BROUGHT UP.

GARVIE ROAD, I WAS HOPING THAT I COULD GET SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS, IF I DON'T GET THEM TODAY, THEN EVENTUALLY THAT I DO GET THEM BECAUSE I WOULD BE NOTIFIED.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. MADAM SHERMAN.

YES, MA'AM. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OK? I SHALL HAVE RINCONADA WATANABE, ISD ENGINEER, COME UP AND ADDRESS BOTH THE URBAN EMULSION ISSUE ON THE PORT MALABAR CHANGE ORDER.

AND ALSO I APOLOGIZE, BILL.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE EMAIL FILLED WITH INFORMATION ABOUT GARVIE.

I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT YOU'D BEEN ADVISED, BUT I'LL HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER GO THROUGH WHERE WE'RE AT WITH GARVIE AS WELL FOR YOU.

SO GOOD EVENING, KASTLE.

FRANK WATANABE'S CITY ENGINEER.

JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT BILL HAD ON THE.

IT WAS THE. MALABAR ROAD, IT WAS THE FDR PROJECT AND THEN FDR PROJECT HAD SOME MINMI CURVE THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED, AND THE REASON WHY I WAS ON THAT LIST IS BECAUSE THAT MIAMI CURVE AND WASN'T F CURVE, IT WAS MIAMI CURB.

IT WAS DAMAGED TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULDN'T DO THE ACTUAL ROADWAY WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING THERE TO REINFORCE THE ROADWAY.

SO BASED ON THAT AND BASED ON THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF NOT TOUCHING DRAINAGE, BUT BECAUSE WE HAD ATTACHED THAT DRAINAGE AS PART OF THE ROAD PROJECT, WE DID THAT AS PART OF THE PROJECT. IT WAS IN THE APPROVED BID ITEM.

A COUNCIL APPROVED IT AND IT WAS REQUIRED BECAUSE IT WAS SO BADLY DONE.

WE HAD THE PART OF THE ROAD PROJECT.

TYPICALLY WE DON'T PUT ANY DRAINAGE PIPES CURBS AS PART OF THE ROAD PROJECT.

THIS WAS A SPECIAL CASE.

AND SO THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE WAS ON THE EMOTION AND THE CEMENT.

TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO AFTER WE USE A COMBINATION OF EMOTION, IS MET IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE ROADWAY IS MORE SEVERE IN TERMS OF NEEDING MORE CEMENT, WE PUT IN MORE CEMENT INSTEAD THE EMOTION. AND THAT'S IN THIS SITUATION, THE DESIGN ENGINEERING COMPANY, WHICH WE USE AS A TECHNICAL FIRM, THEY CAME BACK AND RECOMMENDED TO USE NOTHING BUT CEMENT.

SO WE USE FOUR PERCENT CEMENT AND NO MOTION.

BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE WAS NO EMOTION ON THIS PROJECT BASED ON THEIR ENGINEERING JUDGMENT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM WAS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT MALABAR AND BABCOCK IS COUNTY MAINTAINED.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, WE TOOK OUT THE GRID SMART SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE DIGITAL DETECTION SYSTEM. AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A SAVING ME ONLY SAVINGS FROM THE GRID START AND HUGE SAVINGS FOR NOT USING THE EMULSION THAT ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS ON THE MALAMA.

I'M MOVING ON TO THE GARVIE PROJECT, THE DRIVING EXTENSION.

I THINK BEN HAS SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING SOME PROPERTIES WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST THAT WERE PURCHASED LONG TIME AGO TO THE CITY.

SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY THERE ARE NO PURCHASES OF PROPERTY NEEDED FROM THE ROAD STANDPOINT.

HOWEVER, WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A PURCHASE OF A LOT IF ST.

JOHN'S REQUIRES US TO PAY FOR RETENTION AND ATTENUATION.

THE CURRENT DESIGN RIGHT NOW, WE HAD WE HAVE 80 PERCENT OF THE SURVEY COMPLETED.

WE HAD 30 PERCENT OF THE DESIGN COMPLETED.

WE'RE LOOKING AT USING LONGITUDINAL SWAILS, WHICH ST.

JOHN'S WILL ACCEPT. HOWEVER, A LOT OF TIMES THEY MAY ASK FOR MORE, BUT ATTENUATION THAT REQUIRES ENLARGE UPON THAT WOULD COME BACK AS A THEN A PURCHASE OF A LOT ONE OF THE VACANT LOTS. SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE.

AND I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION WAS THERE'S PERMITTING INVOLVED.

WE HAD THE CROSSING THE SEA SIXTEEN, WHICH IS A TILLMANN CROSSING.

THE VERY TOP OF THE ROAD DOES JOG A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JOG THROUGH SLIGHTLY TO MAKE SURE WE CLEAR THAT AND WE GET THE PERMIT FROM BOTH ST. JOHN'S AND FROM TITELMAN.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE HAD FROM BILL AND THEN THE COST OF.

OH YEAH, WE WOULD CONSIDER WOULD BE OF COURSE IS A BRAND NEW ROAD IS NEW TWO LANE ROAD.

SO COURSE TO BE IMPACT D SO HAVING IT IN THE ROUGH COST ESTIMATE WAS ABOUT ONE POINT TWO MILLION AND THAT'S VERY PRELIMINARY.

HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. I NEED A MOTION COUNSEL FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE CHARGE ORDER NUMBER FIVE FOR DEDUCT OF ONE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT DOLLARS FOR PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD ROAD PAVING.

SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL AND NONE I'M CALLING QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR PASSES

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DEPUTY MAYOR, IS THE BILL THAT.

[7. Resolution 2021-24, conveying City-owned surplus real estate located at 1048 Hunt Street to buyer Susan C. Ayer.]

FOR SITUATIONS ABOVE GONE BEYOND SOME OF YOUR CONTROL, IT TURNED OUT TO BE A BAD DEAL.

BOTTOM LINE, ARMCHAIR WARRIORS, THE DEAL FELL THROUGH, BUT IT WAS STILL OUR MONEY, ONE HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IT WAS INVESTED. AND THE RESIDENT THAT RECEIVED THAT GOOD DEAL FROM THE CITY FAILED TO DO THEIR PART. BUT I'M HOPING THAT SOMEPLACE ALONG THE LINE THAT THEY WERE AT LEAST BEING UP FRONT AND WE'RE PUTTING SOME OF THEM MAKING SOME OF THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS THE WAY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SO THAT WE'RE NOT OUT THE ENTIRE ONE HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS. JUST TRY AND SAY INSTEAD OF JUST AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMING THEY DIDN'T PAY ANY, IF WE CAN FIND OUT IF THEY DID PAY SOME BY BEING A RESPONSIBLE PERSON.

OK, THE SECOND CASE WOULD BE THAT THAT WAS SO AND MAKE A PROFIT OF ONLY FORTY EIGHT, FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE CITY AND THE SALE.

BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THE REAL ESTATE AGENT COMES INTO PLAY ON ALL THAT.

SO BASICALLY IT WAS ONE PERSON RECEIVED TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF BENEFITS FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT IN ITSELF IS A TRAVES TRAVESTY.

THINK OF HOW MANY OTHER VETERANS ARE NEEDING PEOPLE WE COULD HAVE HELPED INSTEAD OF JUST ONE PERSON THAT WAS NOT APPRECIATIVE, HOW MANY OTHER VETS WE COULD HAVE HELPED WITH OTHER MECHANISMS. AND I SEE THAT IN SOME OF OUR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING INTO THIS PROCESS THAT WE COULD HAVE HELPED INSTEAD OF PUTTING ALL OF OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET TO HAVE A HORSE STEP ON IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE HOMES RORTS PROGRAM IS NO MORE AND WE ACTUALLY FOLLOW THAT PROCESS OR PROCEDURE.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS HOUSE WAS ACTUALLY NEVER OCCUPIED.

SO THERE WAS NEVER A FAMILY LIVING THERE, I GUESS, ON IT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION.

I CAN ACTUALLY ASK OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER TO IGNORE THAT TOPIC.

YOU NEED FURTHER INFORMATION.

AND THE OTHER SPEAKER CALLS ME, OK, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, CONVEY CITY OWNED SURPLUS REAL ESTATE LOCATED AT 10 48 HUNTER STREET TO BIRE SUZANNE CIA. A SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN BAILEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH.

JUST REAL QUICK, I DID WANT TO NOTE THIS.

I APPRECIATE MR., BUT I KNEW MR. MEDINA PULLED ONE OF THESE I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ON.

WE HAVE EIGHT PROPERTIES WE'RE SELLING, SO I DON'T WANT TO OVERDO IT.

BUT ON THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, I DO THINK WE LISTED LOW BECAUSE IT IS ESSENTIALLY A BRAND NEW HOUSE THAT WAS NEVER LIVED IN.

AND WE OFFERED IT AT 225.

WE GOT A WE LISTED IT TO OUR 224, I THINK IT WAS, BUT WE GOT ABOUT TWENTY THOUSAND OVER, WHICH IS GOOD. SOUNDS GREAT.

AND WE'RE BEYOND WHAT WE PUT AS FAR AS GRANTON FUSION, WHICH IS LEAVING US EXTRA MONEY FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE, ALL THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I DID TALK TO AT LEAST ONE OTHER REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL.

AND JUST BASED ON MY OWN OBSERVATION OF THE MARKETS AND BEEN STUDYING THEM RECENTLY, I DO BELIEVE ALSO WE WE ARE VERY LOW IN OUR LIST PRICE.

I THINK OUR LIST PRICE WAS LOW.

I THINK WE COULD HAVE GOT MORE OUT OF IT.

I KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE WITH A SMALLER HOUSE THAT WAS FURTHER FURTHER BACK.

THE MARKET'S ONLY GOING UP RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY THEY GOT MORE THAN THAT FROM A SMALLER HOUSE THAT WAS SIMILAR.

NO, SIMILAR. NO, IT WAS ALMOST UNINHABITED JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS OLD AND NEVER ACTUALLY GOT LIVED UNTIL NOW. SO ANYHOW, WELL, I THINK IT'S I THINK WE GOT TO IT CLOSER TO A FAIR PRICE HERE. AND I THINK IT'S GOOD.

I DO I DO WANT TO REFLECT I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN HOW WE'RE LISTENING TO IT, ESPECIALLY WITH TODAY'S MARKET.

THE SECOND THING I JUST WANT TO NOTE REAL QUICK, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT APPLY TO THIS BECAUSE I END UP GETTING A LOT OF SUPPORT DOCUMENTATION.

I DIDN'T GET THROUGH ALL OF IT. BUT JOAN, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, SUZANNE, THEY SHARED A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTS.

I GOT THROUGH SOME OF IT. AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS OF NOTE THAT MENTIONED EARLIER DURING THE CONSENT, WHENEVER I MENTIONED YOUR CONSENT, WAS THAT SOME OF THEM WE TOOK OFFERS THERE WERE LOWER THEN ANOTHER HIGHER ONE.

SO CONSIDERATION WAS HIGHEST.

AND THUS, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS 100 PERCENT IN AGREEMENT, WHAT WAS HIGHEST AND BEST.

BUT WE'D ALREADY SIGNED THE AND WE'RE IN A LEGAL SITUATION WHERE WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD TO MOVE FOR THE CITY TONIGHT.

I THINK IN FUTURE ONES, WE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CRITICAL IN HOW WE LOOK AT THOSE, BECAUSE THESE ARE TAXPAYER ASSETS.

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AND THAT HELPS EVERYBODY IN THE CITY BECAUSE THAT GOES INTO OUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH WE CAN USE FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WE ALL BENEFIT FROM.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE COUNCIL? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, I OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NINE WAS MOVED TO.

[CONSENT AGENDA (Part 2 of 2)]

RESOLUTIONS AND THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE SET TO START AREON RESOLUTION 2021, DASCH 24, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

CELAN INCONVENIENT PROPERTY IS RECORDED IN BOOK 21 PAGE ONE OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF EVERY COUNTY, FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION 2021 TERESE 25.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA SELLING INCONVENIENT FERRARE AS RECORDED IN BOOK 16 PAGE 119 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION 2021.

THAT'S 26.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING AND CONVEYING PROPERTY AS RECORDING FLIPBOOK 22, PAGE 125 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF EVERY COUNTY.

FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION 2021.

THAT'S 27. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING INCONVENIENT PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN FLATBOAT 21 PAGE 105 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF EVERY COUNTY. FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION 2021.

THAT'S TWENTY EIGHT. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA.

SAVOLAINEN CONVEYING PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN FLATBOAT 26, AGE 12.

THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION. TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

THAT'S TWENTY NINE. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING A COMPANION PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN FACT, BEFORE AGE 89.

ARE THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION? TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

THAT'S THIRTY. A RESOLUTION TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING THE BAILEY PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN FLATBUSH.

TWENTY SIX, EIGHT, TWELVE.

THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THAT'S THIRTY ONE.

A RESOLUTION. THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA STELLING INCONVENIENT PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN FLATBOAT, TWENTY ONE PAGE 105 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THAT'S 32.

BROUGHT RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S THIRTY THREE, A RESOLUTION, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO JOIN WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT UNITS AS A PARTICIPANT IN THE FLORIDA MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING INFORMAL AGREEMENTS, IMPLEMENTING A UNIFIED PLAN FOR THE ALLOCATION AND USE OF PROSPECTIVE SETTLEMENT DOLLARS FROM OPIATE RELATED LITIGATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. OR IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH FORTY SIX, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND MANY OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING ALLOCATING FUNDS IS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, ASSISTING A FIVE PAGES AND INCORPORATE IT IN ITS ENTIRETY HERE IN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CHAPTER 35.

ADOPTING, RATIFYING, AFFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

THE NINE WAS 60.

[16. Resolution 2021-33, authorizing participation in the Florida Memorandum of Understanding and formal agreements implementing a unified plan for the allocation and use of prospective settlement dollars from opioid related litigation.]

GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I WASN'T SURE I WASN'T SURE IF THIS WAS THE OUTCOME THAT CITY OF PALM BAY WAS LOOKING FOR AFTER WATCHING THE PRESENTATIONS, AFTER WATCHING A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU, MAYBE THAT'S THE PROBLEM. AND THIS TYPICAL MARINE RUN TO IT.

THERE YOU GO. OH, YEAH.

HEAD ON. THAT TOOK OUT OF MY TIME.

NELKIN THE STARTED.

IF THIS WASN'T IF THIS WAS NOT THE OUTCOME THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS LOOKING FOR, I'M

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BUT WE'RE ONLY BEEN GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR OUTCOME OF 15 PERCENT.

AND AND THE WAY I LOOK AT THAT IS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY RAISED HER HANDS AND STEPPED UP FOR THE FIRST TO STEP OUT THERE AND PUT THEIR NAME ON THAT LIST, THAT THEY SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT, BECAUSE THERE'S POWERS WAY ABOVE US IN MAKING THIS DECISION.

BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS WITH BASED ON THAT PERCENTAGE AND THEN BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CASES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BECAUSE COMPARED TO SOME CITIES ARE OUR DRUG PROBLEMS ARE SMALL COMPARED TO SOME OTHER CITIES, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

I'M REAL HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

BUT SINCE WE'RE THE ONES WE'RE TRYING TO FIGHT THIS, THAT WE SHOULD BE SOMEHOW BEING PART OF THE RECIPIENT TO RECEIVE INTO IT.

AND EXTREME CASES, WAS THAT HOW YOU THEN JUST BASICALLY IS THIS WHAT THE OUTCOME YOU EXPECTED? SEE, AFTER WATCHING THE PRESENTATION FROM THE LEGAL TEAM AS THEY PRESENTED IT, I WANTED TO. AND SINCE THIS WAS CONSENT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HEARD FROM YOU THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU REALLY WANTED TO SEE SINCE IT WAS UNDER A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

AND IT DOES RELATE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 18, WHICH IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE LAWSUIT WITH PURDUE, BECAUSE THEY DO SOMEWHAT TIE TOGETHER.

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE YES ON ONE AND NO ON THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE IT COULD MAKE AN IMPACT AND AND SO ON.

BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO PULL THEM BOTH.

SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE OUTCOME ON THIS, BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONES WHO PUT OUR REPUTATION, WHILE NOT US, THE CITY OF PALM BAY REPUTATION OUT THERE.

SO I HOPE IT CAME OUT RIGHT FOR YOU.

AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED.

THANK. MADAM SMITH.

YES, SIR, AS THE LEGAL TEAM PALM BAY MR. KHAN AND MR. ROMANO, WHEN THEY WERE HERE IN THE PRESENTATION, THE WAY THAT THE SETTLEMENT IS STRUCTURED IT BECAUSE THERE WERE STATES, THERE WERE CITIES, COUNTIES THAT WERE ALL SUING THESE MANUFACTURERS, THAT IN ORDER TO DIVIDE UP THE MONEY AND TO EXPEDITE THE SETTLEMENT TO THE SUIT, THAT THE CITIES, COUNTIES, HIS STATE COULD COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT.

THOSE THAT DID WOULD GET MORE MONEY.

THOSE THAT DECIDED THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO COME TOGETHER WOULD RECEIVE LESS.

SO ESSENTIALLY, IF WE COME TOGETHER AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE, WHO IS? ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO JOIN ALL OF US TOGETHER, IT ALLOWS US THREE POTS OF MONEY TO GET ESSENTIALLY THEIR MONEY FROM THE STATE, THERE'S MONEY FROM THE CITY MUNICIPALITIES THAT WILL BE SET ASIDE, AND THERE'S ALSO MONEY THAT WILL GO TO THE COUNTIES.

BUT IF WE DECIDE NOT TO GO ALONG WITH THIS AND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THE JOINT SETTLEMENT, WE ARE LIKELY TO RECEIVE LESS.

AND THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE WAY THE SETTLEMENT IS STRUCTURED.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN? YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER QUICK, I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR THE MOTION AND DISCUSSION TO COMMENT, BUT I GUESS THE ANSWER TO MR. BATTENS QUESTION IS THAT WHAT I WANTED? I THINK THAT QUESTION THE ANSWER MIGHT BE NO.

I WOULD WANT MORE. I WANT I WOULD WANT TO MAXIMIZE I WOULD WANT MORE THAN I WOULD WANT MORE. BUT MY REAL QUESTION, I THINK THE QUESTION IS IF WE MAXIMIZE AT THAT POINT, I THINK WE HAVE WITHIN THE REST OF THE CONFINES OF THE SITUATION AND THE ACTORS ARE INVOLVED.

IF I KNEW A WAY, IF THERE'S A SUGGESTION HOW WE COULD GET MORE, I WOULD CERTAINLY NO WISH TO PURSUE THAT. BUT I HAVE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR OUR OUR TEAM, THE RAMANO FIRM, MR., MICHAEL KAHN AND OUR INTERNAL ATTORNEYS, THAT WE WE ARE GETTING THE BEST RESULT THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM THE SITUATION.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? I'M 16.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY RESOLUTION AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AT ANY OF SUBSEQUENT AGREEMENTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE ALLOCATION PLAN.

AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL? YOU KNOW, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, I OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM 20.

[20. Consideration of submitting an application to the U.S. Department of Justice's Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) development microgrant.]

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I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM MR. MEDINA AND WAS REFERRING TO INVOLVING THE POLICE CHIEF OR SOMEONE FROM THE POLICE IN RESPONSE. I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE.

AND SO THIS CONSIDERATION IS SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TO THE U.S.

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SERVICES.

THIS IS, I THINK IS A VERY FAR REACHING SUBJECT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME KIND OF RESPONSE TO ONE OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS FROM THE POLICE SAYING THAT THIS IS REGARDING BICYCLES AND FOOD TRAILERS.

AND I REALLY UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS LOOKING INTO THIS AGENDA, THAT IS FAR MORE THAN JUST BICYCLES AND FOOD TRAILERS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO BLACK LIVES MATTER AGENDA.

AND IT'S A BEGINNING TOWARDS THE FINDING THE POLICE AND BRINGING IN FEDERAL AND U.N., POSSIBLY OTHER NON LOCAL AUTHORITIES.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT LIVING IN CHICAGO.

WE ARE IN PALM BAY.

AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS WARRANTED FOR US.

AND I THINK THAT THE FOUNDATION OF OUR DEMOCRACY IS THAT PEOPLE ARE INFORMED AND THEY GET A CHANCE TO MAKE CHOICES AND THEY UNDERSTAND.

AND RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THIS IS JUST SO DRASTIC.

MAYBE IT STARTS WITH FULL TRAILERS.

BUT WHERE IT GOES, LIKE THE LONG TERM AGENDA OF THIS IS FAR MORE THAN THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE, FIRST OF ALL, NEED THIS.

AND SECONDLY, THAT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO DISMANTLING OUR FREEDOMS, LIKE THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL IS STARTING TO BE A THING OF THE PAST IF WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED PUBLIC PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND INFORMATION OF THE PUBLIC AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVE THIS ONE LINE THING HERE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN JUST QUICKLY VOTE ON WITHOUT THE PEOPLE BEING AWARE OF WHAT IT REALLY MEANS.

SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT WE COULD BE MUCH MORE CREATIVE IN FINDING SOLUTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING SOMETHING SUSTAINABLE FOR EVERYBODY THAT PROVIDES FREEDOM FOR ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MAY OR MAY ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT SPEAKER.

YEAH, BECAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS AND I SHARED THE SAME TYPE OF GUARDS, I GUESS, IN LOOKING FOR SUCH THINGS.

BUT ON THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, I'M LOOKING FOR SPECIFICALLY, IS THERE SOME SPECIFIC STIPULATION THAT YOU FEEL THAT THE CITY IS TAKING THAT IS GOING TO ADDRESS LIKE BY ACCEPTING THIS GRANT? I MEAN, THIS IS FEDERAL DOLLARS.

YOU UNDERSTAND JUST A ONE TIME GRANT, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO TIE US TO SOME KIND OF A CONTRACT? YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MY QUESTION, BECAUSE IF IT'S A ONE TIME GRANT FOR BICYCLERS, OF COURSE, NO PROBLEM.

UNDERSTOOD. SO THAT'S WHAT SO I WOULD DIRECT A QUESTION TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE CLEAR AND I'M CLEAR TO STAFF TO WHAT THOSE CONTINGENCIES ARE, BECAUSE I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS ABNORMAL, I'D BE CONCERNED AS WELL.

SO. SO THEN IF THIS MAN.

WE'LL GET WE'LL GET AN ANSWER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING ON LAST BISLERI.

HOLD ON. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.

MADAM SHERMAN, CAN WE ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD OR IS IT THE SAME TIME? OK, CARRY ON.

I CALLED THIS LAURIE.

REGARDING ITEM 20, I DID LOOK AT SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION, I WENT ON TO THE WEBSITE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND IT DOES STATE THAT THERE ARE STIPULATIONS THAT YOU DO HAVE TO ALLOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SOME POWER TO MAKE CERTAIN CHOICES.

I PRINTED IT OUT AND TO ME, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS OPENING THE DOOR TO LET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN. SO I THINK WE'RE ALL FOR COMMUNITY STUCK WITH THE POLICE, THE FOOD TRUCK AND THOSE THINGS. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT HOW WE DO THINGS HERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOOR AT ALL.

SO THAT'S WHAT OUR CONCERN IS.

ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, YES, I MEAN, IF WE CAN WORK TOWARDS AN ALTERNATIVE TO GET THE SAME OUTCOME OR WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT GETTING THE GRANT FROM THE GOVERNMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED OFF ON OR IF IT'S IN THE PROCESS OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU GUYS ARE IN THE PROCESS IF YOU HAVE A DEADLINE OR WHATNOT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE OF A DIALOG ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU.

FIRST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY CAN HEAR ME BECAUSE I KNOW WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE BEFORE COUNCILWOMAN A YOU CAN HEAR ME.

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THIS IS A ONE TIME GRANTS THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

IT'S NOT NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT.

SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE COURSE OF OF THINGS THAT WE DO FROM TIME TO TIME, INCLUDING WE'VE LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IT WAS WE ACTUALLY HAD A DOJ GRANT TO HELP US ASSIST US WITH THE FUNDING TO HIRE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS.

SO CERTAINLY IT'S A BIT OF A NORMAL COURSE OF ACTION ACTIVITY FOR US.

IT IS NOT ALWAYS SIGNED OFF ON.

WE COME TO COUNSEL TO REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR GRANTS.

SO WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY APPLIED YET.

IT'S JUST IN THE REQUEST.

AND THE POINT OF THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS TO EXPAND OUR RESOURCES FOR OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE IF THIS GRANT IS AUTHORIZED FOR APPLICATION AND WE RECEIVE IT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A FEW TRAILERS THAT WE CAN GO AS AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, ATTEND COMMUNITY EVENTS, PROVIDE FOOD AND SNACKS FOR KIDS AND OTHER PEOPLE, AND JUST ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A AS AN APPROACH.

AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THE THE REQUEST TO PURCHASE BICYCLES THROUGH THIS GRANT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SIX OFFICERS WHO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, THE GEAR AND THE BICYCLES.

THEY CAN HAVE THEM ON THE BACK OF THEIR VEHICLES.

AND IT CAN BE ANOTHER WAY THEY ENGAGE MORE ONE ON ONE WITH FOLKS IN COMMUNITIES RATHER THAN JUST DRIVING THROUGH THEIR THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THEIR CARS.

CHIEF, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS, BUT CERTAINLY.

IN THE COUNCIL MEMBER, NELSON MOYAR POLICE CHIEF.

SO YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD THERE.

SO WHAT WE TRY AS AN AGENCY, AS A LOT OF AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY NOW, IS TO FIND WAYS AND PLATFORMS TO BETTER ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

OFTENTIMES, THE GRANTS THAT ARE OFFERED THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THE INTENT IS TO DO JUST THAT, TO PROVIDE FUNDING WHERE OTHERWISE FUNDING WOULD BE LIMITED. FOR EXAMPLE, IN ORGANIZATION IN OUR CITY, WE HAVE SOME LIMITED FUNDS BASED ON OUR LIMITATIONS, OUR BUDGETARY LIMITATIONS.

SO WE SEEK FOR GRANT ASSISTANCE TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THOSE PICAULT, THOSE THOSE VACANCIES.

THIS IS YET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST.

THE CITY OF COCOA HAS A TRAILER AND IT PROVED VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

IN FACT, WE SHOW UP TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT GETS FLOT MOSTLY BY CHILDREN, AND IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, NO.

ONE, SERVE SERVING ICE CREAM, HOT DOGS, PIZZA, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO HAVE DIALOG, ESPECIALLY THAT DIALOG THAT IS MUCH NEEDED IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF POLICING IN AMERICA AND THE SEEMING SEEMINGLY INCREASING GAP BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND THE POLICE WHILE IN OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UNITED AS A CITY.

THIS JUST GIVES US ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR BELT TO DO SO.

THE BIKES, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE OUR FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS. WE ARE NOT AN URBAN CITY.

THEREFORE, WE HAVE TO SEEK OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND OTHER VENUES FOR OUR FOLKS TO BE CREATIVE AND GET OUT OF THE CARS AND PATROL BIKES GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

THIS GRANT COVERS SIX BIKES BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING SIX POLICE OFFICERS, SIX POLICE OFFICERS WHOSE SOLE FUNCTION IS COMMUNITY POLICING.

AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S EFFORT IS TO TRY TO STANDARDIZE POLICING IN AMERICA, WHICH IS WHAT POPULATION IS ASKING FOR.

SO WE ARE RESPONDING TO THAT NEED.

I AGREE WITH IT AND I THINK THIS FUNDING IS MUCH NEEDED.

TERESE, I THINK I APPRECIATE MEIRA DID HAVE BEFORE THE CHIEF SAID THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS ABLE TO ASK A QUESTION.

ONE IS, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS.

ARE THERE GOING TO BE THESE GOING TO BE NEW OFFICERS? ARE WE GOING TO TRAIN OUR CURRENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO DO BIKE PATROL? SO REMEMBER THE SIX DOJ POSITIONS THAT WE GOT LAST FISCAL YEAR? AS WE START FILLING THOSE POSITIONS? IT IS THOSE OFFICERS NOW THEY'LL GET BACK FILLED LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT.

THEY'LL GET BACK TO BY THE FOLKS THAT ARE EXPERIENCED.

RIGHT. BUT THOSE DOJ FUNDED POSITIONS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THOSE BIKES AND WORK IN THAT TRAILER. AND THAT WILL BE LIKE A PART OF THEIR DUTIES.

THEY WILL ALSO STILL BE ASSIGNED A PATROL CAR AND HAVE OTHER.

ABSOLUTELY. IT COULD BE DIFFERENT SHIFTS, RIGHT? IT IS A MULTIDIMENSIONAL POSITION WAS WHY MAKE SURE THAT FIRST WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR FUTURE EXPENSES THEN? THE SECOND QUESTION IS, ARE WE ADDING ANY OTHER OBLIGATIONS, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR LIKE. NO, THE STIPULATIONS OR WHATEVER? ARE THERE ANY OTHER EXPECTATIONS OF US AS A CITY FOR ACCEPTING THIS? WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS FOR US ACCEPTING THIS? WELL, IT'S A TWOFOLD ANSWER.

SO FOR THE DOJ OFFICER POSITIONS, THERE ARE STIPULATIONS, MEANING THAT YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PROVE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT YOU ARE SUSTAINING A COMMUNITY POLICING EFFORT, THOSE EFFORTS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED IN THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT NEEDED THE ASSISTANCE OF DOJ.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO ON THAT TRAILER, ALL THE THING WE HAD TO SHOW, FOR EXAMPLE,

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AND DO YOU THINK THE EFFORTS THAT WE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS ISN'T NEW? NO, COMMUNITY POLICING IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT RECEIVING.

WE'VE RECEIVED FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS RECEIVE FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR THIS PURPOSE OR WE HAVE STATUTORILY REQUIRED DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND ON THIS WORK FROM OUR FORFEITURES, I BELIEVE, AND FOR THESE TYPE OF EFFORTS, AT LEAST PART OF IT.

DO YOU THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING IS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT? IN OTHER WORDS, WE WON'T WE WILL NOT REALLY HAVE TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF MAJOR CHANGES IN OUR OPERATIONS TO JUST TO TO SHOW THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT THE CONTINUING DOING THE COMMUNITY POLICING, WE NEED MORE. SO THIS IS JUST ONE ELEMENT OF PERHAPS MORE TO COME.

THE MORE CREATIVE THAT WE CAN BE IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE BETTER.

NOW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR BECAUSE I, TOO, BELIEVE IN HOME RULE.

TRUST ME, ESPECIALLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

IT DOES NOT COME INTO MY SHOP AND TELL ME HOW TO CONDUCT MY BUSINESS IN TERMS OF THEIR FUNDING. IT GIVES GENERAL PARAMETERS OF COMMUNITY POLICING.

BUT THOSE ARE GENERAL. AND WE MET THOSE VERY EASILY.

WE HAD THE AUTONOMY.

TO ORCHESTRATE HOW WE RUN OUR ORGANIZATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTION, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION, THANK YOU, CHIEF, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? YOU KNOW, I LIKE COUNCILMAN FOSTER CHIEF.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

MY PAST LINE OF WORK, I SPENT 25 YEARS AND I CAN SAY TO MAKE A STATEMENT BEFORE I GET TO MY QUESTION. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

FBI, DEA, U.S.

MARSHALS WILL PRISON.

NOT OUR ENEMY, THEY'RE THERE TO HELP OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE THROUGH YOUR CAREER? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S OUR HOME.

THAT'S OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT.

YES, SIR. AND THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T.

YOUR NUMBER, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN AN OFFICER? I'M ON MY 31ST, 30, 31 YEARS.

HAVE YOU KNOWN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVER TAKE SIDES OF A A NONPOLITICAL GROUP SUCH AS BLACK LIVES MATTER? YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAKE ANY SIDES AND INVOLVING LOCAL ISSUES? NO, SIR.

RIGHT. AND SO THIS GRANT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLACK LIVES MATTER.

I'LL SHOW MOVEMENT RIGHT NOW, SIR.

OK, OR ANY OTHER GROUP.

AND HE HAD THE GROUP ALSO THIS IS A GEOGRAPHY AND COMMUNITY POLICING, WHICH I DID WHEN I WAS OFFICER, IS VERY EFFECTIVE.

HAVE YOU FOUND THAT TO BE EFFECTIVE IN FIGHTING CRIME AND REDUCING CRIME? IT IS A STAPLE OF CRIME FIGHTING AND CRIME PREVENTION.

YES. THIS GRANT WE GET, WE HAVE THE SIX EXTRA OFFICERS TO HELP FIGHT CRIME AND TO HELP PROTECT OUR YOUTH TO GO AWAY FROM THE BAD ELEMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AM I RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN? COUNCILMAN BAILEY, A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE REPRESENTING THAT NONE OF THE POLICE ASSOCIATED FEDERAL AGENCIES HAVE TOOK ANY STANCES ON BLM PRACTICE WHENEVER YOU'RE ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THEN SECONDLY, JUST TO MAKE JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS THAT THESE ARE NOT SIX EXTRA OFFICERS. WE ARE RECEIVING THESE SIX OFFICERS BECAUSE WE ARE ACCEPTED ANOTHER GRANT THAT WE'RE USING TO HIRE THEM, CORRECT? YES. SO THAT WAS LAST FISCAL YEAR.

WE ACCEPTED A GRANT. SO, I MEAN, IT IS IT IS IT WE'RE WE'RE FILLING THEM, BUT IT'S NOT THIS ITEM DOESN'T AFFECT THAT.

NO, NO. THIS IS NOT GOING TO ADD SIX ADDITIONAL ITEMS. NOT AT ALL. THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. THANK YOU.

HOW MANY GRANTS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN PALM BAY HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE? OVER THE YEARS, SEVERAL MAINLY GEARED TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING, SO THE COPS GRANT IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING FOR POLICE OFFICERS HISTORICALLY IN MY 30 PLUS YEARS CYCLICALLY OVER THAT TIME.

YES. HOW MUCH MONEY? YOUR BEST GUESS THAT WE GOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO TELL.

WHEN I WOULD SAY. EASILY A COUPLE OF MILLION TAXPAYER MONEY.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S COMING BACK TO PALM BAY.

YES, SIR. AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEM GRANTS, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

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THAT'S WHEN THAT'S WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ABSOLUTELY HAS A RIGHT TO COME INTO OUR SHOP. AND THAT'S CALLED A CONSENT DECREE AND WE WANT NO PART OF IT.

THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO GET TO THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT, MR..

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION COUNCIL MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO APPLY FOR A GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF SIXTY THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY DOLLARS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES, BETTER KNOWN AS COPS.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN BAILEY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL IN COUNCILMAN BAILEY REAL QUICK.

SO JUST JUST FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION, DOJ GRANTS, THIS IS NOT IT'S NOT NEW THAT WE'RE RECEIVING A DOJ GRANT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS I DON'T SEE ANY INDICATION TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE ANY SERIOUS STIPULATIONS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY OTHER ONES OTHER THAN THAT.

WHENEVER WE USE THEIR MONEY TO HIRE A POSITION, WE CAN'T REDUCE THAT POSITION IN THE FUTURE. SO THEY'RE SO THEY'RE GOING TO DO A LOT LIKE I THINK IT'S THREE YEARS.

THEY'RE GOING TO COVER FOR THREE YEARS TO HELP US EXPAND.

OUR OUR DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY GROWING.

OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE SWORN POLICE OFFICERS.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE SOCIAL WORKERS OR SUPPORT STAFF.

THESE ARE GUN TOTING.

NOW THEY'RE READY TO STAND IN FRONT OF A BULLET AND SAVE YOUR LIFE IF THEY HAVE TO TYPE OF EMPLOYEES.

IT'S JUST THAT ENSURE THAT WE DON'T USE THAT AS A TEMPORARY STOPGAP IN OUR BUDGET TO FILL SIX POSITIONS THAT WEREN'T THERE WERE ALREADY THERE.

WE REDUCED AND WE ADD THOSE SIX.

AND WHEN THE GRANT'S DONE, WE WERE TO JUST ELIMINATE THEM.

RIGHT. SO I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE ON.

IT'S THESE ARE THESE ARE KIND OF LIKE STARTERS.

I WILL SAY THIS MAYOR AT THIS MONEY WAS OUR MONEY.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD SPEND IT THIS WAY.

I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDS MONEY.

I THINK IT'S INTRUSIVE.

I DO THINK THERE ARE MANY TIMES WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDS MONEY AND USES GRANT MONEY TO CONTROL LOWER LEVELS OF STATES AND LOCAL OFFICIALS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THAT CASE.

I CERTAINLY I AM VERY SKEPTICAL, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AND IN THE BIG PICTURE.

BUT IN THIS ONE, IF WE DON'T GET THESE THINGS, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO GET THESE THINGS. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HYPOCRITICAL FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER NOW BEING SERVED UP AT THE LONGEST AT THIS POINT AND HAVING HEARD DISCOUNTS OR PREVIOUS COUNCILS TALK ABOUT, PLEASE GO GET GRANT MONEY, WHY AREN'T WE GETTING ALL THIS GRANT MONEY, WHY EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING IT? WE SHOULD BE PARTICIPATING AS WELL.

YOU GUYS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE THAT.

WE KNOW YOU GUYS ARE AT LEAST ATTEMPTING TO.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS ONE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ASKED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I ALSO HAVE TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, CHIEF RICHARD. WE'RE PART OF THE AGENDA WHERE IT'S RECOGNITION'S AND

[RECOGNITIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS]

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING UP, FRED.

SO WE'VE GOT A PROCLAMATION OF WELCOME COME ON UP TEAM.

LOOK AT THESE FINE YOUNG BUNCH OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE HIRED THAT WORK TIRELESSLY FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THIS IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM AND WE'RE HERE TO CELEBRATE PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING OUR BELOVED CITY, PALM BAY, WHERE IS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, ENSURING HEALTH OF ALL CITIZENS, AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF A COMMUNITY AND REGION.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS BUILD HEALTHY, ACTIVE COMMUNITIES, THAT AID IN THE PREVENTION OF CHRONIC DISEASE, PROVIDE FITNESS AND ATHLETIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL AGES, AND ALSO IMPROVE THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH OF ALL CITIZENS.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS INCREASE A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM, THE

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WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION, THAT WAS A NICE TUNE AND RIGHT ON TIME.

WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS IMPROVE WATER QUALITY, PROTECT GROUND WATER.

PREVENT FLOODING, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF AIR WE BREATHE, PROVIDE VEGETATIVE BUFFERS TO DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCE HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE, WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND NATURAL AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS.

AND WHEREAS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAVE DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. NOW, THEREFORE, I RUN MEDINA MAYOR OF THE CITY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE AUTHORITY OF SET OFFICE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY 20 21 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL ITS CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT WORK TOWARDS CREATING A HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND IMPROVE THE WELL-BEING OF OUR CITY AS A WHOLE.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE ON SET IN MY HAND AND CLOSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE FIXED THIS FIRST DAY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE.

CONGRATULATIONS, FRED.

THANK YOU. WOW, HE DID THAT WITHOUT TAKING A BREATH.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE.

THIS IS A SEVENTH YEAR IN A ROW THAT I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF ACCEPTING THIS PROCLAMATION.

AND I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THESE PEOPLE ARE UP HERE WITH ME.

THEY WORK TIRELESSLY EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT CLEAN AND SAFE PARKS AND FACILITIES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMS, EVENTS AND OFFERINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS PAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE THE PANDEMIC. I MEAN, IT'S AFFECTED EVERYBODY.

BUT THROUGH THIS ALL, WE FOUND DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAINTAIN FACILITIES.

WE FOUND NEW WAYS AND NEW PIECES OF EQUIPMENT TO HELP SANITIZE EQUIPMENT TO GET US THROUGH ALL THIS. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK THE STAFF WAS VERY CREATIVE IN FINDING WAYS TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE PEOPLE THINGS TO DO.

AND THE MOST NOTABLE ONE TO ME WAS WHEN WE DID THE CHRISTMAS PARADE.

WELL, DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.

INSTEAD OF HAVING A PARADE DOWN THE STREET, WE HAD PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH A PARK AND MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY THOUGHT WE WERE CRAZY WHEN WE DID, BUT WE HAD THIRTEEN HUNDRED CARS GO THROUGH THERE. AND WHAT THAT SHOWED ME WAS THAT PEOPLE DO NEED WHAT WE OFFER AND IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM. THE AVERAGE WAIT WAS ALMOST TWO HOURS FOR PEOPLE TO SIT IN THEIR CAR TO GET IN THERE TO PARTICIPATE.

THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING.

BEFORE WE SHOW, WE HAVE A LITTLE CLIP ON ON SOME OF OUR OFFERINGS ARE GOING TO BE THIS JULY. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE THING AND I'M NOT SURE IT'S IN THE CLIP, BUT I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT IT ANYWAY. DURING THE MONTH OF JULY, WE'RE GOING TO OFFER FREE SWIM LESSONS FOR KIDS SIX AND UNDER.

NOT NOT ONLY DID WE DEAL WITH A PANDEMIC, BUT POOL WAS DOWN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE THAT. AND THAT THAT MEANT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TEACH KIDS HOW TO SWIM, WHICH IS VERY, VERY CRITICAL, ESPECIALLY HERE IN FLORIDA.

NUMBER ONE, CAUSE OF DEATH SIX AND UNDER IS DROWNING.

SO SO WE FELT THAT WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT FORWARD.

THE ONLY LIMITATION IS GOING TO BE THAT THE NUMBER OF INSTRUCTORS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN SERVE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO IF YOU COULD ROLL THE VIDEO, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

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EVERYBODY HUDDLE AROUND, FRED.

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OUTSTANDING. AND IF YOU GUYS DIDN'T NOTICE, THERE'S THIS MOVIE SET, THE POOL IS NEVERTHELESS RELAXING.

SO WE'RE AT A PRESENTATION AND WE'RE GOING TO DEFER TO MS.

[PRESENTATION]

SHE'S GOING TO GIVE US HER QUARTERLY UPDATE THIS EVENING.

WELCOME, MS. PILTON IN.

WELL, THANK YOU. I HAVE TO SAY, FRED'S TEAM WAS MY LIFESAVER DURING THE PANDEMIC TURKEY CREEK. I GOT A KAYAK.

NOW I HAVE A MOUNTAIN BIKE.

I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.

SO AND THAT NEW THEY JUST OPENED A LITTLE INTENSE FOR ME, BUT I TRIED.

THEY WANT TO PUT A GOPRO ON MY HEAD AND I WENT, OH, NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR CALLING THE AMBULANCE WHEN I'M LIKE SUCKING AIR.

BUT ANYWAY, IT'S ALL GOOD.

SO MY NAME IS NANCY PELTON AND I'M PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT THE CHAMBER DOES BRING TOGETHER BUSINESSES SO THAT WE CAN DO COLLECTIVELY WHAT WE CAN'T DO BY OURSELVES.

OUR MISSION IS TO SERVE, ADVOCATE AND PROMOTE AS A TRUSTED VOICE FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND OUR NUMBER ONE JOB IS TO SAFEGUARD THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

SINCE WE ARE THE LARGEST BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN PALM BAY, OUR MEMBERS RANGE FROM HOME BASED BUSINESSES TO MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS.

WHEN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY GROWS AND PROSPERS, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE GROWS AND PROSPERS. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, THEY'LL ALL END SOONER OR LATER.

EVEN THE FESTIVALS LIKE WE HAD A LONG TIME AGO.

THE BIG SQUEEZE GOT KIND OF TIRED AND AND ENDED.

BUT THE IMPACT OF GOVERNMENT ON OUR MEMBERS WILL NEVER END.

EVERY NEW LAW, GOOD OR BAD, IMPACTS OUR MEMBERS INTO PERPETUITY.

THAT IS WHY OUR ADVOCACY NEVER ENDS.

WE REPRESENT THE NUMBER ONE TAXPAYER, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

HAVING A STRONG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DRIVES COMMUNITY PROSPERITY.

THE CHAMBER IS ALSO THE PRIMARY COMMUNITY WELCOME CENTER FOR VISITORS, CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS A RESOURCE FOR RELOCATING COMPANIES AND DEVELOPERS.

OUR GOAL IS TO BRING ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, GETTING THEIR DICTATES A LONG RANGE STRATEGY OF MOVING WHEN OPPORTUNITY ARISES TOWARDS THAT GOAL. I WAS AN EARLY PARTICIPANT IN THE CITY'S 20 30 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INITIATIVE AND CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OPEN FORUMS. I ALSO ATTENDED THE CITIZENS FOR SPACE ADVOCACY THIS YEAR.

I'D NEVER BEEN ON THAT ONE BEFORE.

THEY ACTUALLY WE HAD 14 MEETINGS, WE ASSUME, THIS YEAR WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS IN WASHINGTON TO ADVOCATE ON NASA AND THE IMPORTANCE FOR SPACE EXPLORATION.

IT WAS FASCINATING, ACTUALLY.

WE ASSUME EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT OUR AMAZING COUNTY THAT WE HAVE HERE AND EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY FROM WISCONSIN, IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL TO THEM. SO IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE SPACE PROGRAM HERE. WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF PRINTING A PALM BAY MAP AND WE GET ALMOST DUST EVERY DAY DUE TO THE SHEER SIZE OF THE CITY.

DO YOU HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS ALL OF PALM BAY? SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ONE PRINTED.

WE'RE ALSO SENDING OVER A BUSINESS DIRECTOR AND COMMUNITY GUIDE TO THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER.

ON MONDAY, WE CHOSE NOT TO PRINT IT IN TWENTY TWENTY DUE TO THE PANDEMIC WHEN SO MANY BUSINESSES, THE COMMUNITY CENTERS, THE CHAMBER AT ONE POINT IN CITY HALL WERE CLOSED, SO IT WAS HARD TO DISTRIBUTE IT.

WE HAVE A SUMMER INTERN ACTUALLY FROM UGALI HIGH SCHOOL WHO IS CALLING ALL OUR MEMBERS TO ENSURE THE INFORMATION IS CORRECT IN OUR SYSTEM.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO FINALLY GET THAT GOING.

I KNOW THERE IS INTEREST IN OUR MEMBERSHIP AND TRUSTEES.

FROM JANUARY, OUR NEWEST TRUSTEES WERE REPUBLIC SERVICES GARRY YEOMEN'S, FORD PALM BAY, ELEVATE EVENTS AND DESIGN CPA PAYROLL, SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE AND TWO OF OUR NEWEST TRUSTEES ARE WORK MAGIC AND THE LAZY TURTLE.

SO THEY STEPPED UP FROM A REGULAR MEMBERSHIP UP TO THAT HIGHER SUPPORT.

THIS MONTH WE HAD FIFTEEN NEW MEMBERS JOIN.

SO I JUST MENTIONED ALL THE TRUSTEES BECAUSE I KNOW YOU LIKE TO KNOW THEM.

SO WE HAD FIFTY NEW MEMBERS JOIN THE CHAMBER AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME GREAT EVENTS THAT ARE REALLY ASSISTING OUR MEMBERS.

THE HOME SHOW AND EXPO WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAD THAT EVENT AND IT WAS FOR COMPANIES

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AND ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS TOLD US THAT HE HAD THREE SIGNED CONTRACTS THAT FOLLOWING WEEK WORTH OVER TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST FROM THAT ONE EVENT.

SO I HOPE LEWIS ROOFING GOT SOMETHING TO IT.

BUT IT REALLY WAS A VERY UNIQUE EVENT.

AND IT WASN'T IT WAS LOCAL BUSINESSES, NOT THOSE THAT GO TO THESE HOME SHOWS THAT ARE FROM TAMPA AND AROUND THE STATE.

AND THEY JUST KIND OF COME IN.

THEY SELL PEOPLE THEIR SERVICES AND AREN'T THERE FOR FOLLOW UP WHEN THINGS HAPPENED.

SO TO HAVE A LOCAL BUSINESSES WAS PRETTY, PRETTY AMAZING.

OUR MULTICULTURAL GROUP MET UP MCCOSKER LAST THURSDAY NIGHT AND WE CONTINUE TO GO TO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES EACH MONTH TO BRING THEM EXPOSURE.

THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST WAS RATHER WARM INSIDE THE BUILDING, BUT IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE EVENT TO HEAR FROM THE MAYORS OF THE CITIES AND TOWNS IN BREVARD COUNTY ALL AT ONE TIME IN PLACE. I WANT TO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEDINA FOR PARTICIPATING AND BEING A GOOD SPORT, THE EVENT HAS TURNED INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A ROAST, BUT IT REALLY IS ALL IN GOOD FUN.

AND THE COMMENTS WE HAVE RECEIVED AND THEY CONTINUE TO CALL US ABOUT IT AND JUST SAY WHAT A GREAT TIME THEY ALL HAD.

AND THE PEOPLE JUST SEEM TO LOVE THAT EVENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING.

WE DID HAVE A SURPRISE, MIA, THIS YEAR, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DIDN'T SEE IT IN ALL OF THIS, WILL BE ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGES RIGHT NOW ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL.

BUT WE HAD THE VICE COMMANDER, EDWARD MARSHALL.

HE'S LIKE THE MAYOR OF PATRICK SPACE FOR SPACE.

HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR FIVE FIRE STATIONS.

HE HAS FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY POLICE OFFICERS, THREE AIRPORTS, A MARINA, GOLF COURSE, TWO CHURCHES, A HOTEL, RESTAURANT.

I THOUGHT, WOW, THAT'S QUITE A MAYOR.

SO HE WAS A RATHER INTERESTING ONE TO HAVE AS A SPECIAL MAYOR THIS TIME.

AND OPEN AND FREE TO THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IS OUR DISASTER RECOVERY EXPO. WE ARE DOING THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY ON JULY 21ST AT THE TONY ROZSA COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THAT'S ON PORT MALABAR ROAD.

IT'S EIGHT THIRTY TO 12:00.

THERE'S SPEAKERS FROM THE SBA DISCUSSING A DISASTER PLANNING CHECKLIST, RISK ASSESSMENT AND RISK MANAGEMENT. SHERIFF IVEY WILL BE DISCUSSING ACTIVE SHOOTERS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT IN YOUR WORKPLACE OR ACTUALLY A PLACE THAT YOU MIGHT BE VISITING AS A CUSTOMER.

FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT IS DISGUSTING.

POWER OUTAGES AND HOW TO RETURN SAFELY TO BUSINESS AFTER A NATURAL DISASTER.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT INSURANCE COVERAGE.

YOUR BUSINESS SHOULD CARRY CYBER SECURITY, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A HUGE THREAT NOW TO ALL BUSINESSES AND HOW TO PREVENT BEING HACKED IT BACK UP, HOW TO RECOVER AND RESTORE YOUR BUSINESS AFTER A DISASTER AND A LOT MORE.

IT'S REALLY A PACKED AGENDA THAT MORNING.

SO IF THE PUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN COMING, WE HAVE SOME FABULOUS SPEAKERS.

AUGUST THE 24TH, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY ONCE AGAIN TO PROVIDE A STATE OF THE CITY BREAKFAST AND ITS AUGUST 24TH.

I HAVE SO MANY DATES IN MY HEAD, I JUST RAMBLE OFF WRONG ONES TO PEOPLE.

BUT IT'S THE TWENTY FOURTH OF AUGUST AND IT WILL FEATURE THE MAYOR PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE CITY, ALONG WITH POLICE CHIEF MOYAR TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE INITIATIVES THEY HAVE, AND FIRE CHIEF HOAGUE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO DOING. AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE INFORMATION ON DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING HERE IN OUR CITY BECAUSE A LOT IS GOING ON AND AT A LUNCHEON OR THE MAYOR'S, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GO OVER EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING.

SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THAT BREAKFAST.

IT'S AT THE NEWLY RENOVATED SENIOR CENTER FROM SEVEN THIRTY TO NINE THIRTY IN SEPTEMBER.

WE'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE CITY ON THE PALM BAY MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL AT THE FRED POPI REGIONAL PARK.

THIS EVENT CONTINUES TO GROW.

WE HAVE MORE CULTURAL GROUPS GETTING INVOLVED AND WE EXPECT A REALLY LARGE CROWD.

SO I'M THRILLED THAT FRED IS ON THIS WITH US BECAUSE THIS IS IT'S BECOMING QUITE AN AMAZING EVENT.

WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING FOR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

WE USUALLY DO IT EVERY YEAR, BUT COVID AND THINGS HAVE BEEN KIND OF STRANGE.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR NOMINATIONS CLOSE.

AT THE END OF MAY, THE SLATE OF NOMINEES WERE ANNOUNCED AT OUR JUNE LUNCHEON AND MEMBERS IN GOOD STANDING WILL VOTE AT THE AUGUST LUNCHEON.

OUR 2022 BOARD MEMBERS WILL BE INSTALLED AT OUR DECEMBER LUNCHEON.

WE TRULY APPRECIATE THE EMERALD TRUSTEE SHIP THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS PLACED WITH US.

WE ARE PARTNERS MORE THAN EVER, I FEEL, WITH THIS CITY, INCLUDING MONTHLY MEETINGS BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER, SUZANNE SHERMAN AND MYSELF.

OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DOES HELP OUR PARTNERS GROW AND MARKET THEIR BUSINESS MAKING CONNECTIONS. WE PROVIDE RESOURCES AND INFORMATION RELEVANT FOR MAKING BETTER BUSINESS DECISIONS AND STAYING INFORMED.

WE PROVIDE PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL GROWTH AND LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE KNOW A NUMBER OF PARTNERS MAKE FRIENDS AT OUR CHAMBER.

WE REALLY DO HAVE THAT FAMILY FEEL WITH THIS CHAMBER.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S ATTENDING OUR MONTHLY LUNCHEONS, RIBBON CUTTINGS, THE HOME SHOW AND EXPO, THE FLAG RAISING CEREMONY. WE HAD THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST AND MORE.

WE TRULY DO SEE YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY BY YOUR ACTIONS, AND THAT IS

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EXCUSE ME. TRULY APPRECIATED.

SO THANK YOU. SO MANY QUESTIONS.

SO MANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS, JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE BEEN DOING AND, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE YOU, SO THANK YOU.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK WITH OUR STAFF.

WE GOT THIS. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE AMAZING.

I SERIOUSLY, I, I KNOW ALL OF THEM NOW.

IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO BE ABLE TO HELP BUSINESSES WHEN I KNOW WHO TO CALL.

AND I'M BOTH SUZANNE AND JOAN ARE JUST AMAZING.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S COME UP, I CAN SEND AN EMAIL AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE RESPONDING AND PEOPLE ARE HAPPY.

I'M I'M HEARING GREAT FEEDBACK, SO IT'S NICE TO HEAR THE POSITIVE THINGS NOW.

SO SHERMAN FOSTER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, NANCY, WITH THE SHOW STUFF YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ALL YOU, THE LADIES THAT WORK AT THE CHAMBER ARE AMAZING, PROFESSIONAL.

THEY GET IT DONE. AND WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND KEEP KEEP DOING THE HARD WORK AND I DEFINITELY SUPPORT YOU.

TAKE CARE.

APPRECIATE THAT. EVERY FAMILY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I WOULD ECHO EXACTLY WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID.

AND TRULY, I MEAN, YOU DO KNOW HOW TO PUT EVENTS TOGETHER.

I DON'T THINK I'VE ATTENDED ONE OF THEM THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN A SUCCESS.

SO GREAT JOB.

I MUST SAY, THOUGH, I WALKED INTO A BUSINESS THIS AFTERNOON, ONE OF YOUR CINDY I'LL PUT IT OUT THERE. SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

I RECOGNIZE HER.

SHE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE ASSISTANT, JUST TRYING TO GET THEM TO COMMIT.

HE WOULD NOT STOP.

AND THE REPORT I GOT, I GUESS MY NAME WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS THEY KNEW I WAS GOING TO WALK IN AND AND THE THOUGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD NOT GIVE UP JUST TRYING TO.

IT IS A BUSINESS THAT IS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AS THE GREAT EVENT COMING UP IN THE NEXT I MEAN, THIS MONTH.

SO SHE'S REALLY TRYING.

SO THEY I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

SO KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THEM.

THEY'RE AWESOME. SO HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN NOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THE CHAMBER, THAT YOU'VE BEEN SEPTEMBER 15TH? IT'LL BE SIX YEARS. SIX YEARS IS SIX SHORT YEARS.

HAVE YOU LOOKED BACK AND SEEN ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE? BECAUSE I CAN DEFINITELY SEE EACH AND EVERY ONE.

IT'S FUNNY YOU SHOULD MENTION THAT I AM PLAYING FOR THE FCC CERTIFICATION THROUGH THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CHAMBER PROFESSIONALS, AND SOMETIMES I'M A LITTLE ANGEL.

AND I WENT BACK THROUGH MY DAYTIME HOURS AND I'M OLD SCHOOL, SO I HAVE DAYTIME HOURS FROM 2015 AND LISTED EVERY SINGLE MONTH WHAT THE CHAMBER DID.

BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST GOT THERE, WE HAD A MONTHLY LUNCHEON, AS YOU KNOW, AND A FEW SPECIAL EVENTS. AND SO NOW THEY TELL ME TO STOP FILLING IN THE WHITE SPACE ON THE CALENDAR.

BUT WHEN I LISTED ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TRIED, THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD, I MEAN, LITERALLY IT WAS SIXTEEN PAGES OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBER'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH. AND I THINK IF YOU RECALL, THERE WAS ONLY PAT, MYSELF AND CAROLINA CAME ON AS A VOLUNTEER ACTUALLY THAT FIRST YEAR IN OCTOBER, BUT NOT A FULL STAFF MEMBER UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR. AND I'M FOR THE SIZE THAT WE ARE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY, YES, I AM VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT WE HAVE REALLY BLOSSOMED.

I THINK WE'VE MADE A DIFFERENCE TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT AND SAID THANK YOU, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID LAST YEAR, WE REALLY TRACE BACK MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HELP THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY OBTAIN BECAUSE THEY KEPT SAYING WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

IT SEEMS COMPLICATED AND WE KEPT WORKING WITH THEM AND GETTING THEM TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

AND I CAN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.

LIKE, JUST JUST LET ME KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM SURVIVED BECAUSE THEY THEY GOT INFORMATION FROM US THAT HELPED THEM KEEP THEIR BUSINESS GOING IS PRETTY REWARDING.

AND YOU DID IT VIRTUALLY.

AND STANDING JOB.

YOU BROKE YOU BROKE THE MOLD WHEN YOU DID THAT.

AND SO NOW YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE INCREASED YOUR CAPACITY.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES HERE LOCALLY.

AND YOU JUST KEEP PERSEVERING, MAN.

YOU'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND MAYOR OF US REAL QUICK, WE REALLY APPRECIATE APPRECIATION.

I KNOW THE WORK. WE'VE BEEN AROUND A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF TIME IN BOTH OF OUR POSITIONS AT THIS POINT. BUT ALSO JUST TO REITERATE, I APPRECIATE YOUR APPRECIATION FOR OUR STAFF.

I THINK STAFF HAS REALLY BEEN MAKING A LOT OF STRIDES TO BE.

WE I THINK EVERYBODY IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE EVERYBODY ON BOARD TO TO MAKE SURE WE REFLECT THE PALM BAY IS A GOOD PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.

AND AND SO I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY JUST KNOW, APPRECIATE STAFF AND LEADERSHIP FOR WHAT THEY DO AS WELL AND HELPING YOU IN YOUR MISSION.

GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, THEY'RE WONDERFUL.

GOT A BIG ROAR FROM THIS COUNCILMAN.

WELL THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AS AS YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO WE HAVE SPEAKER COIN'S MR.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

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NO ONE WAS WITH THE FIRST WINDFALL WE GOT UNDER THE CARERS ACT FUNDING OF THE NINE MILLION DOLLARS I ALREADY SAW.

THE BUDGET AND CITY MANAGER PRESENTED SOME PRESENTATIONS ON HOW THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT SPENDING THAT BILL, BEING THE TYPE OF PERSON HE IS, WENT HOME AND THOUGHT ABOUT AND SAYS, I CAN THINK OF ONE REAL GOOD THING, THAT WE COULD SPEND THAT NINE MILLION DOLLARS ON NINE MILLION DOLLARS. WE PAID NINE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, WHICH WAS UNDER THE JACK THE GAO REPORT, NINE DOLLARS MILLION CAME OFF THE BACK TO TAXPAYERS BECAUSE A DEVELOPER FAILED TO DO THEIR PART.

SO I'M SAYING, WELL, GEE, WITH THAT NINE MILLION DOLLARS WE GOT FOR THE UNDER THE CARERS ACT, WE COULD PAY DOWN THAT NINE MILLION DOLLAR LOAN, WHICH WOULD PUT THE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CARRY THAT ON OUR CREDIT RATING, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE CREDIT RATING OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MANDATED LOAN STILL OUT THERE.

AND IT WOULD NOT COME OUT OF THE BACK, COME OFF THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYER IN PALM BAY.

IT'S STILL COMING OFF TAXPAYERS, BUT IT'S NATIONWIDE INSTEAD OF JUST THE CITY OF PALM BAY. SO RECOMMENDATION IS WE USE THE ONE NINE DOLLARS MILLION FOR THE FIRST IMPLEMENT OF THAT. AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING A TOTAL OF 18, BUT NINE MILLION DOLLARS COULD GO TO PAY DOWN ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

BOND ITEM NUMBER TWO WAS NO WAS ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT WAS PULLED AT FOUR O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON. SO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THAT UNDER CONSENT.

AGENDA NUMBER 19 I.

ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS PULLED, I WOULD HAVE DONE IT UNDER CONSENT.

SO THAT WAS ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT THE CITIES THINK, OH, LET'S JUST GO BY THIS DEVELOPERS BUILDING OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T MADE ANY MONEY ON IT. WELL, THAT'S THE DEVELOPERS PROBLEM.

WE'RE LOOKING AT PAYING ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S ON TOP OF BUILDING EA, WHICH IS TWO MILLION DOLLARS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL GRAND TOTAL EXPENDITURE FOR BUILDING EA, WHICH IS THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FROM CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE GENERATE TAX REVENUE.

THESE BUILDINGS DO GENERATE TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY TO THE POINT OF THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY INTO THE CITY IN TAXES.

AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE 2007.

SO LET'S DON'T JUST SAY, WELL, THEY'RE NOT DOING WELL THIS BY THEIR BUSINESS FROM THEM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY DOES, HELPS DEVELOPERS BY BUYING THEIR FAILED BUSINESSES. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS FOR.

WE NEED TO GET THE TAX REVENUE FROM COMMERCIAL COMING IN.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS THING DOES AT THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, PLUS THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR FOR STORM WATER.

NOW, IF THE CITY BUYS IT, WE DON'T GET ANY OF THAT AND IT COSTS US ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. IT'S A BAD INVESTMENT.

DON'T DO IT. AND THE BUILDING IS THERE BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY HEALTH BINTE HEALTH BUSINESSES COMING INTO THAT AREA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. THAT'S THE KID OF DELGADO.

KEN DELGADO, PASTOR OF THE HOUSE IN PALM BAY, PROUD MEMBER OF THE PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I'D LIKE TO TAKE JUST A MOMENT, WE JUST GOT AN AMBER ALERT, WE ALL HEARD IT.

KOBE SIMPSON, MENTALLY CHALLENGED YOUNG MAN, 16, HAS COME TO OUR CHURCH QUITE A FEW TIMES, WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO PRAY FOR HIM, FATHER.

I DO. AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO STAND, STRETCH YOUR LEGS AND STAND UP, BE FINE, TOO.

FATHER, WE ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT YOUR ANGELS BEGIN TO MOVE SUPERNATURALLY, THAT KOBE COULD BE FOUND, THAT THERE WOULD BE A HEIGHTENED AWARENESS BY NEIGHBORS, BY PEOPLE, AND THAT THIS CHILD WOULD BE FOUND AND BROUGHT HOME SAFELY.

WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. HE WAS FOUND OK? WELL, THAT WAS A QUICK ANSWER.

BOY, I KNEW A GOOD PRETTY GOOD I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD PLAY THAT GOOD.

JUST A THOUGHT. IN HONOR OF OF OF RICHARD SPELLMAN FROM PHILIPPIANS CHAPTER TO WHERE IT SAYS, LET NOTHING BE DONE THROUGH SELFISH AMBITION OR CONCEIT, BUT IN LONELINESS OF MIND, LET EACH YSTEM OTHERS BETTER THAN HIMSELF.

LET EACH OF YOU HAVE EACH OF YOU LOOK OUT NOT ONLY FOR HIS OWN INTERESTS, BUT ALSO FOR THE INTERESTS OF OTHER LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU, WHICH WAS ALSO IN CHRIST JESUS, WHO BEING THE FORM OF GOD DID NOT CONSIDER IT ROBERT TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD, BUT MADE HIMSELF OF NO

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HE HUMBLED HIMSELF, BECAME OBEDIENT TO THE POINT OF DEATH, EVEN THE DEATH OF THE CROSS.

AND JUST AS A POINT THAT THAT THOUGH HE WAS GOD IN THE FLESH, HE DIDN'T TAKE HIS POSITION AS SOMETHING TO HOLD ON TO, BUT RATHER HE BECAME A SERVANT.

AND YOU ALL ARE IN THAT SAME POSITION THAT THOUGH YOU HAVE AN AUTHORITY, THOUGH YOU HAVE A POSITION, YET YOU ARE HERE TO SERVE AND TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY AND AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SAME MIND THAT JESUS HAD, THAT HE WOULD LAY DOWN HIS LIFE FOR PEOPLE THAT HE LOVED. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THAT WE ESTEEM YOU VERY HIGHLY AND THAT WE KNOW THAT YOUR POSITIONS POSITION THAT REQUIRES INSIDE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN EVERY ASPECT AND THEN DEALING WITH A HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND PLUS, I DON'T KNOW, IT KEEPS GROWING PEOPLE.

AND AND SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A CHURCH COMMUNITY THAT PRAYS FOR YOU AND THAT IF BY ANY CHANCE, AT ANY POINT IN TIME YOU HAVE NEED OF A CERTAIN SPECIFIC PRAYER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US AS A COMMUNITY TO PRAY FOR YOU, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO LIFT YOU UP IN PRAYER AND TAKE YOUR PETITION TO GOD AND PRAY WITH YOU AND FOR YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. BEXXAR.

THE VISUAL. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILWOMAN MAYOR.

WE ARE HERE JUST SIMPLY TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. AND YOU SEE ALL OUR MEMBERS BACK THERE WERE EXCITED BECAUSE WE ALL CAME HERE AND YOU SAW OUR VISION FOR A COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU FOR SEEING THAT VISION AND ENDORSING THE COSPONSORSHIP FOR OUR CITY.

AND OF COURSE, I'M HERE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF BOKASSA MS., MARSOC, CAMPBELL AND MR., ANTHONY HARRIS, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR AND ALSO THE ENTERTAINMENT COORDINATOR.

SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE COME TO THE EVENT, HE'S THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF ALL THE WONDERFUL ENTERTAINMENT AND.

I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, SO MUCH FOR YOUR VOTE.

OF ALLOWING US TO DO WHAT WE DID ON SATURDAY AND THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF JUNE AND HAS SAID WE ARE ALL HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY HAVE ATTENDED.

THANK YOU. GOODNIGHT.

I JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT OF PARKS AND THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY AND EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED ON SATURDAY.

WE JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WITH CONTINUED SUPPORT, THAT EVENT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. THANK YOU.

I JUST LIKE. THANK YOU.

I COULDN'T LEAVE WITHOUT SAYING HOW AMAZING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS, ESPECIALLY ON SATURDAY, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT.

AND SEEING ALL THE MEMBERS HERE FROM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, I TELL YOU, WE CAN BE SUPER PROUD OF THE WORK AND THE DEDICATION THAT THEY GIVE BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER THE EVENT COMMITTED TO HELPING OUR COMMUNITY.

SO IT WAS NICE TO SEE THEM HERE BECAUSE I TELL YOU, THEY DESERVE EVERY HONOR WE GIVE THEM BECAUSE THEY DID A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU. ONE MORE THING.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR LEADING THE PARADE AND JUST GETTING OUT THERE AND HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME.

AND YOU AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AIR COUNCILMAN FELIX.

JUST QUICKLY WANT WANTING TO SAY THAT IT IS VERY EASY FOR THE FIVE MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO SAY YAY OR NAY, BUT KUDOS TO STAFF THAT WOULD TRULY CARRY THE BULK OF THE WORK.

I MEAN, I WAS VERY PROUD OF YOU GUYS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MY GUYS COULD DO IT.

I MEAN, IT HAD TO BE AT LEAST WHAT, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND A COUPLE OF THOUSAND PEOPLE THERE. HOW DO YOU GUYS YOU GUYS GOT THE SECRET SAUCE?

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HOW DO YOU DRAW ALL THESE PEOPLE TO PALM BAY? I THINK IT WAS THE GOOD FOOD.

MY BROTHER IS WHAT IT IS, THE MUSIC AS WELL.

I THINK THE WHOLE THING AND ALL MAY DRESSED UP AS WELL.

I THINK THAT THAT WAS.

THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? CNN, WE'RE MOVING INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM NUMBER NINE.

OH, AS YOU WERE.

MASTER CHIEF, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AT THIS TIME.

IF. SO, MA'AM, IN THE MEANTIME, ADDRESS US MR. CHIEF, JUST KEEP PROMOTING YOU, SIR, BUT I LIKE I LIKE YOU BEING A STAR, MAJOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO DID TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT USING THE NINE MILLION DOLLARS OR SO OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, FUNDING FOR THE LOAN PAY DOWN ON THE ST.

JOHN TERESE PARKWAY PROJECT.

THERE IS ACTUALLY ONLY ABOUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK, FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS ELIGIBLE OUT OF THAT TO USE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE VERY SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE ARPA RULES.

THE FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IS AVAILABLE.

AND ALSO I WOULD SAY THAT THAT LOAN IS CURRENTLY AND EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO BE PAID OUT OF TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

HERE, THAT BILL. ALL RIGHT, THE SECOND THING IS ITEM NUMBER 19 WAS AN ITEM REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO DISCUSS WITH COUNSEL THE PURCHASE OF A BUILDING IN THE BAYSIDE, ACTUALLY TWO BUILDINGS IN THE BAYSIDE LAKES AREA.

WE WERE CONTEMPLATING A SATELLITE OFFICE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS NOT A SELECTION OF THE THE EXCUSE ME, THE BUILDINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE NOT SELECTED IN ORDER TO SOLVE A DEVELOPER PROBLEM OR TO HELP THEM WITH A FINANCIAL ISSUE.

IT WAS SIMPLY WE'RE LOOKING AT LOGISTICS FOR A GOOD LOCATION FOR SATELLITE OFFICE.

HOWEVER, I PULLED THAT BECAUSE STAFF AND I'VE HAD FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO USE THE BUILDING FUND TO BUILD THE NEW BUILDING, A SLIGHTLY LARGER AND EVEN IF WE CAN'T WITH GENERAL FUNDS TO BUILD IT ALL OUT COMPLETELY TO DO THESE SHELL FLOORS.

SO WE PULLED IT SO WE COULD REVISIT THAT CONVERSATION TO MAXIMIZE USE OF BUILDING EA, AND THAT'S WHY THAT WAS PULLED. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. OK, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MS. ALBERTO CLINKSCALES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS JOHNSON AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF CECAVA DEVELOPING LEADERS TECHNOLOGY CAMP OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE. I'M HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF OUR TEAM TO PRESENT CERTIFICATION CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION TO BOTH CHIEF MOYAR AND HIS TEAM AND DEPUTY MAYOR KENNY JOHNSON, OR COMING IN AND SPEAKING TO US ABOUT THE ROLE THEY PLAY TO KEEP US SAFE AND BUILDING A STRONG PALM BAY COMMUNITY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO CALL UPON CHIEF MOYAR AND HIS TEAM IF THEY'RE HERE. IT TAKES A VILLAGE CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION, THE CERTIFICATE IS AWARDED TO CHIEF NELSON MOYAR, DEPUTY CHIEF MARIO GWEILO COMMANDER LANCE FISHER AND LT.

JEFF SPEARS THE HAS ADOPTED THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE AFRICAN PROVERB THAT RECOGNIZES IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD.

AND IT IS WITH SINCERE GRATITUDE THAT WE PRESENT TO YOU THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR BEING PART OF THE VILLAGE THAT IS COMMITTED TO BUILDING A SAFE AND FAIR ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS TO EXPERIENCE AND GROW.

AND WE ALSO LIKE TO THINK, OH, SURE.

REAL QUICKLY, THIS DOESN'T SHOWCASE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL.

THIS IS THE EPITOME OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY POLICING.

I WANT TO ALSO THANK MY STAFF, DEPUTY CHIEF AJELLO AND LANCE FISHER, WHO ACTUALLY DID THE PRESENTATION. I WAS ABSENT.

I WAS AT A CONFERENCE, SO I THANK THEM FOR THEIR CONTINUED LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE. AND WE'LL ALSO LIKE TO CALL DEPUTY MAYOR.

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SO KABO HAS ADAPTED THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE AFRICAN PROVERB THAT RECOGNIZES IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD.

AND IT IS WITH SINCERE GRATITUDE THAT WE PRESENT TO YOU THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION.

WE'RE BEING PART OF THE VILLAGE THAT IS COMMITTED TO BUILDING A SAFE AND FAIR ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS TO EXPERIENCE AND GROW IN.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

NOPE, NOPE, NOPE, YOU ALL CALLED ME OUT.

I'M CALLING YOU ALL OUT, TOO.

SO WHEN I SPOKE TO THESE GENTLEMEN THE OTHER DAY, I JUST SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN TOUCH WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE FUTURE ENTREPRENEURS IN THE MAKING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY LEFT WITH THEIR CARS.

THEY DO PHONE REPAIRS.

I'M ADVERTISING FOR YOU.

THEY DO PHONE REPAIRS AND ALL TYPES OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING.

AND I WAS TELLING THEM IT'S NEVER TOO EARLY OR TOO LATE TO GET STARTED, WHETHER IT'S WANTING TO BE AN ENTREPRENEUR, WHETHER IT'S LOOKING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR WITH THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD IS NEVER TOO LATE TO GET STARTED.

SO I COME IN. ALL FOUR OF YOU MS. ALBERTA, I COMMEND YOU AS WELL.

AND YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD IN REGARDS TO COMMUNITY POLICING, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IS ALL ABOUT. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

AND MAYOR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOD.

YOU HAVE TO BREAK BREAD. YOU HAVE TO BREAK BREAD.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU, YOUNG MAN.

YOUNG MAN, Y'ALL MADE MY NIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THIS. SO Y'ALL TAKE CARE.

GET HOME SAFELY. GO TO SLEEP.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MY THREE MINUTES.

SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF AND DEFINITELY MAYOR JOHNSON WHO EXCUSE ME, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WHO CAME AND SPOKE WITH OUR STUDENTS, OUR STUDENTS IN OUR SUMMER TECHNOLOGY CAMP.

SO WE HAVE FOUR STUDENTS WHO ARE THEY HAVE LEARNED HOW TO DO A CELL PHONE SCREEN REPAIRS, BATTERY CHANGES.

THEY'RE DOING DATA RETRIEVAL SOON AND THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED THEIR COMPANY.

THIS IS A PART OF CHICAGO'S ENTREPRENEURSHIP SIMULATION.

AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR FIRST SERVICE DAY ON JULY THE 13TH AND IT WILL BE AT 15 01.

ROBERT J. CONNELLAN THE COWORKING SPACE.

SO THEY HAVE GIVEN OUT THESE FLIERS.

THEY LOOK LIKE LITTLE CELL PHONES.

SO THEY GAVE ONE, BUT I TOLD THEM TO GIVE FIVE, GIVE EACH OF YOU FIVE.

AND SO THEY DO HAVE ALL HAVE CHECKING AND SAVINGS ACCOUNTS WITH OUR TRUEST BANK PARTNERS.

SO EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE CHECKING AND SAVINGS ACCOUNTS IN OUR PROGRAM.

SO THEY'RE DOING WONDERFUL. THEY LEARN LIFE SKILLS, THEY LEARN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEIR PROJECT.

I'VE BEEN BRINGING STUDENTS HERE SINCE 2018 AND THIS GROUP OF STUDENTS WILL BE DOING THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT PROJECT.

THEY HAVE TO TEACH FIVE OTHER STUDENTS WHAT THEY LEARN AND THAT KEEPS COSTS DOWN FOR US, BECAUSE NOW THAT THEY ARE MASTERING THESE SKILLS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE HIGH PRICE WE PAY FOR THEM TO GET TRAINED.

THEY ACTUALLY NOW CAN START TRAINING OTHERS AND THEY'RE DOING WONDERFUL.

THEY KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY BETTER THAN ME, SO THEY ARE DOING WONDERFUL WITH THAT.

SO SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING.

I JUST REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL COME OUT AND SUPPORT THEM.

AND WE ALSO DOING OUR FUNDRAISING EVENT, CHRISTMAS IN JULY AT THE PALM BAY SENIOR CENTER, AND THAT IS WITH THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY HIGHWAYMEN, ROBERT LEWIS.

AND THAT'S A FUNDRAISER FOR US.

SO WE CAN KEEP GENERATING REVENUE TO DO THESE PROGRAMS. SO I WANT TO HAND THAT OUT. IS THAT OK? THAT I GIVE YOU THAT.

WAIT TILL YOU GET ON THE BOARD.

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SO THEY ARE IN BUSINESS IN FIVE MONTHS.

IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO DO A REAL BUSINESS, THEY WILL START AN LLC, THOSE WHO STAY ON. SO THAT WILL BE.

SO THAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR THEM.

IF THEY SHOW THAT THEY'RE REALLY COMMITTED, WE WILL START THEM IN AN LLC AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'LL START WITH. AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO BRING TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR PROGRAM.

ONE OF OUR ADULT STUDENTS FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY CAREER PROGRAM, WE WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO HER. SHE HAS THE HIGHEST SCORE IN THE MICROSOFT FOSTER PROGRAM.

AND WE ARE COMPETING WITH GEORGIA AND FLORIDA.

AND SHE'S FROM FLORIDA PALM BAY.

AND SHE HAS THE HIGHEST SCORE IN THE MICROSOFT AZOR CLOUD FUNDAMENTALS THAT THEY ARE LEARNING. THANK YOU, ALBERTO.

CONGRATULATIONS TO HER. THANK YOU.

ARE WE CERTAIN THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, OK, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, SO.

MADAM SHERMAN AND MS. TERESE, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE UNFINISHED BUSINESS OF THE APPOINTEE'S.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]

SO AN UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

I'M GOING TO DEFER TO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE A CARD FOR MS. ALYSSA TAYLOR. NO.

UH. I OH, I'M APPOINTED TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

I REALLY HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR WAYS THAT I CAN HELP OUT MY COMMUNITY AND BE REALLY INVOLVED WITH IT.

I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING AT LOCAL CHURCHES, MY SCHOOL FOR SUMMER SCHOOL, JUST HELPING OUT WITH KIDS A LOT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE STRESSES COVID HAS APPLIED TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'M SUPER EXCITED TO HELP AND WORK CLOSELY WITH OTHER TEENS THAT SEE THE SAME GOAL.

YES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT ALYSSA TAYLOR TO THAT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY, AND HE DISCUSSED.

I'M CALLING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

I APPRECIATE THAT WHEN OUR APPOINTEES DO COME OUT AND SHOW SHOW UP AND GET A TASTE OF THE PROCESS. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, I OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT SUSAN PHILLIPS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY DISCUSSION? CNN ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS UNANIMOUSLY.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ITEM NUMBER NINE.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS THE. CONSIDERATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR, TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES TO BE FUNDED BY CDG AND HOME, IT'S THE FIRST HEARING AND I WILL ASK NANCY BUNTA, OUR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR FY 21 22.

THE CITY ANTICIPATES RECEIVING SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR DOLLARS IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BLOCK GRANT FUNDS AND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWO DOLLARS AND 62 CENTS IN OUR HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM.

THE CITY'S ACTION PLAN MUST BE SUBMITTED TO BRAVAS COUNTY BY AUGUST 1ST AND THEN WILL BE SUBMITTED TO HUD BY AUGUST 15TH.

ON APRIL 14, 2021, THE CITY PUBLISHED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND APPLICATIONS.

THE CITY RECEIVED 15 PROPOSALS.

FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR HIGHEST AMOUNT OF PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVED. THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD HEARD THE PRESENTATIONS ON MAY 17, 2021, AND THEY RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING CITY FOR CHEBEAGUE FUNDING AGING MATTERS AND BRAVAS TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

CONKLIN DAVIS CENTER FOR THE VISUALLY IMPAIRED TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

FAMILY PROMISE OF BOVARD TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS S HÅVARD SHARING CENTER TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS SOUTH OF OUR WOMAN CENTER THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE

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THE CITY WILL RECEIVE FIFTEEN PERCENT IN ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND TO FIFTY THREE.

AND IN HOME THE CITY WILL RECEIVE NINETEEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE DOLLARS AND FIFTY NINE CENTS AN ADMINISTRATION.

AND THEN WITH CHOTEAU SET ASIDE THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS WITH HOUSING ACTIVITIES REMAINING AT ONE HUNDRED NINETY THREE THOUSAND FIVE 02 AND THIRTY SIX CENTS.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, THE CITY MUST OBTAIN PUBLIC COMMENT ON HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT NEEDS.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON JULY 15TH.

AND IF I HAVE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? NOW'S THE TIME TO ASK.

THANK YOU. HE SPEAKS CODES COUNCILMAN SIR CHRISTINA MCPHEARSON, CHRISTINA RIJKSMUSEUM WITH SOUTH PARK SHARING CENTER.

HELLO, THANK YOU GUYS, SO MUCH FOR LETTING US SPEAK THIS EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHRISTINA MACPHERSON.

I'M THEIR PROGRAMS MANAGER AT THE SOUTH BOVARD SHARING CENTER.

WE WERE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE FUNDING AND WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO WITH THIS EXTRA FUNDING.

WE ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING THIS FUNDING IN OUR BRIDGE HOUSING PROGRAM TO MOVE FOLKS FROM HOMELESSNESS, STREET HOMELESSNESS OR PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.

IT JUST IN THE MONTH OF JUNE ALONE, WE'VE ALREADY ASSISTED FIVE FAMILIES TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET AND INTO AT LEAST TEMPORARY HOUSING WHILE WE BRIDGE THEM INTO OUR PERMANENT HOUSING PROGRAM. WE CURRENTLY HELPED OUT A MOM WITH TWO TEENS WHO'VE BEEN LIVING IN HER CAR ON THE STREETS OF PALM BAY, GETTING TRESPASS FROM MULTIPLE LOCATIONS EVERY WEEK.

SHE IS NOW UNDER STABLE APARTMENT.

OUR KIDS ARE SO EXCITED BECAUSE THEY GOT TO EAT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T COOKED IN THE MICROWAVE. WE ALSO PUT A FAMILY OF NINE US AND THE VOA PROGRAM WORK TOGETHER TO GET A COUPLE IN THEIR SEVEN CHILDREN OFF THE STREETS.

THEY WERE GOING TO SLEEP IN THEIR CAR AND WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST THEM PUTTING THEM INTO A HOTEL UNTIL THEY CAN GET INTO PROPER HOUSING FOR NINE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF THE ONE ROOM THAT THEY WERE STAYING IN PRIOR TO THEIR VEHICLE.

WE HAVE A FATHER AND DAUGHTER DUO WHO ARE ALL THEY HAVE LEFT IN THE WORLD AFTER MOM DIED.

AND DCF WAS ABOUT TO TAKE THEM APART BECAUSE DAD AND HER WERE LIVING ON A CAMPSITE.

DAD AND THE DAUGHTER ARE NOW IN ONE OF OUR SAFE HOUSING UNITS SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN UNTIL WE DO GET THEM INTO AN APARTMENT OF THEIR OWN.

AND THE AMAZING NESS OF SEEING THAT LITTLE GIRL'S FACE WHEN SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO SLEEP ON THE GROUND ANYMORE IS UNMATCHED.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE DO EVERY DAY.

WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH YOUR SUPPORT.

THE FAMILIES AND PALM BAY WHO COME TO US HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR YEARS.

WE WORK WITH FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN SLEEPING IN THE WOODS OF PALM BAY HALF THEIR LIVES, IF NOT LONGER, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN KICKED OUT OF HOME WHEN THEY TURNED 18 BECAUSE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY LIVE THEIR LIFE.

FOLKS WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WHO CAN'T MAINTAIN ANYTHING ELSE, THIS FUNDING GOES TO ALLOW US TO DO FOR THEM WHAT THEY CAN'T YET.

ARE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TEAM WORKS WITH THESE FOLKS WHERE THEY ARE.

WE DON'T MANDATE THAT THEY DO ANYTHING FOR OUR SUPPORTS.

WE GO TO THEM. WE OFFER THEM WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT.

IF THAT'S FOOD, WE BRING THEM FOOD.

IF THAT'S HYGIENE, WE BRING THEM HYGIENE.

WE ALWAYS HOPE THAT WE CAN REACH SELF-SUFFICIENCY FOR THEM.

WE WANT TO BE THAT CRUTCH THAT THEY GET RID OF EVENTUALLY.

AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CDB FUNDS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT FOR DOZENS OF FAMILIES ALREADY. WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING THESE FUNDS THROUGH TO 2018, I BELIEVE, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP MORE FAMILIES THAN WE HAVE ESTIMATED EVERY SINGLE YEAR WITH THESE FUNDS.

THE TIMER WASN'T ON, SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO STOP.

I MEAN, I CAN TALK ALL NIGHT, BUT BY ALL MEANS, SOMEBODY STOP ME EVENTUALLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION, MA'AM? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCILMAN BAILEY, THEN COUNCILMAN FOSTER, PLEASE, OH, I APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY OUT THERE.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.

I HAVE ASKED FOR THOSE DETAILS IN THE PAST, CURIOUS ABOUT WHO WERE HELPING, HOW WE'RE HELPING EFFICIENCY.

SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE GIVING OUT SMALL AMOUNTS TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

IS THAT REALLY THE BEST WAY OF DOING IT? AND MAYBE PICK ONE OR TWO AND GIVE THEM A LARGER AMOUNT, KNOW WHO'S ACTUALLY BEING SUCCESSFUL, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

BUT IN THE END, WE HAVE TO RELY ON STAFF.

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YOU KNOW, THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR LIKE HALF THEIR LIVES, HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR YEARS. WHAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE? I GUESS I'M JUST IT JUST RAISED A QUESTION.

MY MY MIND. WHAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE NOW IS WE'VE BEEN WE YOU GUYS HAVE HAD AN OPERA HAD FUNDING BEFORE. WE'VE BEEN OBVIOUSLY PROVIDING EXTRA FUNDING.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE IT'S PALM BAY AND IGNORE US.

EVEN IF WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU IT, YOU IT'S THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MISSION.

AND TO IGNORE FOLKS IN THAT WAY.

BUT WHY NOW? WHY WEREN'T THEY PREVIOUSLY? I'M JUST CURIOUS. A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT WE ENCOUNTER EITHER DIDN'T KNOW THEY NEEDED HELP, THOUGHT THAT THEY REALLY LIKED THIS LIFE.

THE FREEDOM OF LIVING OUTSIDE IS VERY ATTRACTIVE TO SOME, ESPECIALLY OUR FOLKS THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE CONCERNS.

THE LESS MONEY YOU SPEND ON HOUSING, THE MORE YOU CAN SPEND ON BOOZE.

AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST AREN'T READY.

SO WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED.

WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT FREEZING TO DEATH IN THE COLD MONTHS, THAT THEY ARE NOT STARVING TO DEATH YEAR ROUND, THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING WITHOUT SHOWERING OR CLEAN PAIR OF UNDERWEAR BECAUSE SOME OF OUR FOLKS DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GET THOSE THINGS ON THEIR OWN. AND WE JUST CONTINUE TO SHARE HOPE BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORCE THEM INTO HOUSING. WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO CHANGE THEIR LIFESTYLES.

SOME PEOPLE WANT TO STAY OUTSIDE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS PASS AWAY IN THE WOODS TO BE FOUND BY ANOTHER PERSON WALKING BY.

IT KILLS US EVERY SINGLE TIME.

WE CAN'T FORCE THEM INTO IT BECAUSE THOSE THAT GET FORCED INTO CHANGING THEIR LIFE, THEY DON'T ACCEPT IT. IT'S NOT FOR THEM, IT'S FOR US.

AND IT'S SELFISH.

WE GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT AND HOPE THAT WE CAN CHANGE THEIR LIFE SO THAT THEY CAN BE AS SELF-SUFFICIENT AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.

SO THE KEY TO IS THEY'RE RECEPTIVE AND THEY'RE WILLING, READY TO MOVE ON, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY ON BOOZE OR ANYTHING ELSE, OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT EVEN IF WE PUT THEM INTO A HOUSE.

SO SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT THEN MAKING THAT COMMITMENT? ABSOLUTELY. OUR HOUSING STAFF IS PHENOMENAL WITH OVER 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

THEY'RE PHENOMENAL.

YOU KNOW, THESE GIRLS GO OUT INTO THE WOODS IN THE DEPTHS OF SUMMER, IN THE DEPTHS OF WINTER AND TALK TO THESE FOLKS AND CREATE THOSE DISPARITIES TO MAKE THEM THINK, IS THIS REALLY THE LIFE I WANT TO BE LIVING WHEN THEY'RE LIKE, I LOVE IT OUT HERE? DO YOU? AND THEY CREATE THOSE DISPARITIES IN HOPES OF CREATING A BETTER PATH FOR THEM SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE BETTER CHOICES, EMPOWERING THEM WITH EDUCATION AND RESOURCES SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THE BEST CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YES. COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU DO.

I APPRECIATE IT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

MY THOUGHTS IS, SINCE I THINK 2016, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ON HOMELESS KIDS IN THE WOODS.

CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE? IS THAT NUMBER OF HOMELESS KIDS INCREASING AND PALM BAY OR BOVARD COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IN PALM BAY? HOW MANY KIDS WE HAVE THAT DON'T DOESN'T HAVE A HOME THAT ATTENDS OUR SCHOOLS, THAT SLEEPS IN THE WOODS OR IN A CAR? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.

IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON.

WE DO SEE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXITED FOSTER CARE, THE NEW INITIATIVES IN BREVARD COUNTY OF THE YOUTH DRIVE INITIATIVE IN THAT ARE FOLLOWING OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE EXITING FOSTER CARE IF THEY CHOOSE TO ENGAGE UP UNTIL THE AGE OF 21 TO HOPEFULLY BUILD THEM UP MORE SO THAT THEY DON'T END UP A LOT OF THE TIME.

OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE AREN'T OUT THERE BY CHOICE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HOMELESS LIAISON AT THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT SO THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN DO FOR ANY OF THOSE FAMILIES OR CHILDREN WHO ARE IN TRANSITION. A LOT OF THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE GET INVOLVED WITH FAMILIES AND YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT IN THE WOODS, THEY END UP LOSING EVERYTHING.

THESE CHILDREN DON'T SPEAK UP BECAUSE IF THEY DO, THEY LOSE THEIR PARENTS, THEY GET SEPARATED. AND ALTHOUGH PEOPLE THINK IT'S THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO MOVE THEM INTO FOSTER CARE, THEY LOSE THEIR NORMAL, THEY LOSE THEIR PARENTS, THEY LOSE THEIR CAMP MATES WHO HAVE BECOME THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL EVER HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO AFRAID TO BE HONEST WITH THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS DONE TO THEM. DO YOU FIND THESE KIDS, GO TO SCHOOL, ATTEND SCHOOL REGULARLY? SOME. AND IT REALLY DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON THE ADULT SUPPORTS THAT THEY FIND AT SCHOOL ARE YOUNG FOLKS WHO ARE ACTING OUT IN SCHOOL AND GET.

PUNISHED BY SUSPENSION.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP COMING BACK BECAUSE SCHOOLS ARE NOT SAFE.

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THEY'LL KEEP GOING. THEY MAY NOT SUCCEED BECAUSE THE TRAUMA OF BEING OUTSIDE SUPERSEDES THEIR ABILITY TO FULLY LEARN AND ENGAGE BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HAVE SLEPT THE NIGHT BEFORE.

AFRAID OF WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CAMPGROUND WAS DOING OR SOMEONE ELSE IN THE SITE.

DO WE NEED MORE SUPPORTS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE? 100 PERCENT. BUT IT STARTS WITH CHANGE ACROSS THE BOARD, THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT, WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST GETTING THOSE KIDS CLOTHES, SHOES, HYGIENE PRODUCTS SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SCHOOL. BEING THE SMELLY HOMELESS KID, I JUST GOT TWO MORE COMMENTS THAT I ONE HAVE YOU WHAT ABOUT THE CHURCHES IN PALM BAY? HAS THEY REACHED OUT TO YOUR ORGANIZATION OR HAS THEY STEPPED UP AND TRY TO HELP SOLVE THIS ISSUE? WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ENTIRETY OF THE BOVARD HOMELESS COALITION AND ANY OTHER PARTNER WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN.

WE REGULARLY HAVE OUR TEAM REACHING OUT TO LOCAL CHURCHES, LOCAL, OTHER FOOD BANKS, YOU KNOW, SHARING RESOURCES WHEN WE CAN IF WE GET A LARGE DONATION OF, SAY, DIAPERS OR CHILDREN'S SHOES, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR PARTNERS, WE CONTACT THE OTHER LOCATIONS AND SAY, LIKE, HEY, WE HAVE 50 PAIRS OF KIDS SHOES.

AND YOU GUYS USE SOME WE DEFINITELY WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ANYONE AND EVERYONE THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN, BECAUSE IN OUR EYES, IT'S THE BEST WAY TO SUPPORT THE FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY BY US BEING THERE, BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND OUR PEOPLE GO OUT EVERY FRIDAY TO DO OUTREACH IN PALM BAY.

THEY'RE GOING OUT TO THE HOMELESS CAMPS.

THEY'RE GOING OUT TO SPEAK WITH THEM.

A LOT OF OUR LEADS FOR OUTREACH COME FROM LOCAL CHURCHES WHERE FOLKS HAVE COME TO LOOK FOR HELP OR SCHOOLS THAT SAY LIKE, HEY, THIS KID'S LIVING OVER HERE AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IN A WEEK. SO OUR TEAM IS ALWAYS BEATING THE PAVEMENT EVERY FRIDAY OUT THERE, SEEING THESE FOLKS, BRINGING THEM WHAT THEY NEED, SHARING RESOURCES, INTRODUCING THEM TO A COUNSELOR, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN CONNECT FOR THEM, BRINGING THEM INTO OUR SITE TO MEET WITH OUR FOOD STAMPS REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE ON SITE TWICE A WEEK, GETTING THEM SIGNED UP FOR THAT. SO IT'S JUST ONE MORE STEP TOWARD SELF-SUFFICIENCY FOR THEM.

AS THIS GRANT. WHAT CAN THE CITY DO TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION? OH, THAT'S SUCH A LOADED QUESTION.

AND ONE EXAMPLE KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS.

OUR ORGANIZATION SURVIVES AND THRIVES WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS.

VOLUNTEERS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF OUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE EVERY PERSON THAT WE HAVE THERE ON SITE, WHETHER IT BE PACKING UP FOOD BAGS, YOU KNOW, JUST SPEAKING TO OUR CLIENTS, SOME OF THESE FOLKS DON'T GET AN ACTUAL FACE TO FACE CONVERSATION WITH ANYONE ELSE.

AND OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE QUITE LITERALLY OUR LIFEBLOOD.

THEY'RE THERE TO JUST CHAT WITH SOMEONE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT FAVORITE KIND OF JUICE WHEN THEY COME IN, BE THERE FOR THEM AS A SMILE AND A HELLO, BECAUSE TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT HOW OUR HOMELESS FOLKS ARE TREATED.

THERE IS A LOT GOING ON WITH THE SAFETY OF HOMELESS FOLKS THAT ARE PANHANDLING, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE ALWAYS PUSHING TOWARDS WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS FOR YOUR SAFETY, FOR EVERYONE'S SAFETY AND REACH OUT, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF HOURS THAT YOU WANT TO THROW OUT THERE TO REALLY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR BACKYARD IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY EASY TO TURN AROUND WHEN YOU SEE IT AND PRETEND IT'S NOT THERE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU.

PLEASE DO. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU AND ANYONE IF YOU WANT TO COME IN FOR A TOUR.

WE'D LOVE TO SHOW YOU. WE JUST FINISHED GREAT RENOVATIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE FUNDRAISER COMING UP, BUT I'M NOT GONNA PLUG THAT RIGHT NOW AND WE'LL GIVE YOU TIME ON THAT. BUT PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH US.

WE'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU A TOUR, SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DO.

LOTS OF OUR CLIENTS LOVE SPEAKING TO PUBLIC AUTHORITIES THAT ARE AROUND BECAUSE THEY NEVER GOT THAT CHOICE BEFORE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YES, SIR, AND HIGGINS WITH FAMILY PROBLEMS OF BOVARD.

PRESIDENT OF PALM BAY, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THAT YOU'VE DEVOTED TO THIS PROCESS AND TO OUR CITY, AND I'M I'M JUST THRILLED WITH THE CHANGES I'VE SEEN HAPPENING LATELY.

SO I'M WITH FAMILY PROMISE OF BOVARD AND JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK INTRODUCTION TO US. SOME PEOPLE GET US MIXED UP WITH PROMISE OF BOVARD.

WE ARE NOT PROMISED A BOVARD WHERE FAMILY PROMISE OF HALVARD AND OUR GOAL IS TO HELP FAMILIES COMMITTED AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO ENDING FAMILY HOMELESSNESS.

WE WORK WITH A LOVELY LADY THAT JUST SPOKE WITH THE BOVARD HOMELESS COALITION AND SEVERAL OTHER AGENCIES YOU'LL PROBABLY BE HEARING FROM TONIGHT.

WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TRYING TO HELP END THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM.

WE'RE PART OF A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT AND WE'RE THE LOCAL AFFILIATE FOR THAT.

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PALM BAY IS ABOUT A THIRD OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE.

AND LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED ABOUT 300 CALLS FROM FAMILIES IN THE PALM BAY AREA ALONE.

SO THE FUNDING WE REQUESTED FROM CDB CHEY WAS TO HIRE A POSITION CALLED AN INTAKE COORDINATOR THAT WILL FAST TRACK THE FAMILIES TO THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.

SO WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE GETTING HUNG UP WITH PAPERWORK.

AND WE ALL KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE PAPERWORK BECAUSE HUD HAS PAPERWORK AND THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM HAS PAPERWORK.

WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE CONNECTED WITH THE SERVICES THEY NEED.

AND AS SHE SO ELOQUENTLY SPOKE, FAMILIES HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROBLEMS. THEY COULD BE HUNG UP TRYING TO GET SOCIAL SECURITY, DISABILITY INCOME, ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT THAT BUG PEOPLE DOWN, BOG A FAMILY DOWN.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO USE THIS FUNDING FOR, IS TO EXPEDITE THAT AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN FASTER FOR FOLKS.

WE SPECIALIZE IN PEOPLE AND FAMILIES WHO HAVE MINOR CHILDREN, ZERO TO SEVENTEEN.

THAT MEANS THE HUD DEFINITION OF HOMELESSNESS AND ALSO WITH FAMILIES THAT HAVE SINGLE DADS OR BOYS OVER THE AGE OF 12, BECAUSE WE FIND THAT OFTEN, THOUGH, THEY'RE LACKING AND SERVICES. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO DIVIDE THE BOYS UP AND WE WANT TO KEEP THE FAMILY TOGETHER WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS TRAUMA.

WHAT WE SEE THAT WHAT WE SPECIALIZE IN THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT FAMILIES FROM GETTING TO THE POINT OF HOMELESSNESS.

AND THAT'S WHERE A COVERED HAS HAD A HUGE IMPACT WITH THE UNEMPLOYMENT THAT IT CAUSED AND PUTTING FAMILIES ON THE BRINK BEFORE COVID 40 PERCENT OF FAMILIES WERE ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BEING HOMELESS.

THAT'S ONE FOUR HUNDRED DOLLAR EXTRA UNEXPECTED MEDICAL BILL OR A CAR REPAIR.

AND THEY'RE OVER THE EDGE.

THEY'RE HOMELESS. AND SO THEY'RE WORKING.

THEY'RE WORKING FAMILIES THAT HAD ONE UNEXPECTED THING HAPPEN TO THEM THAT PUSHED THEM OVER THE EDGE. SO WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO DO IS HELP THEM WITH SOME COUNSELING, CASE MANAGEMENT ON FINANCIAL AWARENESS, FINANCIAL EDUCATION, HELP THEM WITH ANY OTHER STUMBLING BLOCKS THEY'RE HAVING RELATED TO THEIR INCOME, HELP THEM IF THEY NEED TO SEARCH FOR A BETTER JOB TO RAISE THEIR INCOME.

AND WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT CAN THE CITY DO? PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE SEE IS THE GAP IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE.

SO THERE'S A HUGE GAP BETWEEN WHAT ARE PEOPLE MAKING FOR A WAGE AND WHAT ARE THEY LIVING ON. IT TAKES TWO AND A HALF JOBS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD RENT.

NOW RENTS SKYROCKET, SKYROCKETING.

YOU KNOW, FROM THE PRIOR DISCUSSIONS HERE, THE COST OF HOUSING IS SKYROCKETING AND THE FAMILIES THAT ARE LOWER INCOME WAGE EARNERS ARE REALLY GETTING THE SQUEEZE.

SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE STRUGGLING THE MOST WHEN IT COMES TO FINDING A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE. IF WE CAN PREVENT A FAMILY FROM BECOMING HOMELESS, THAT SAVES THEM THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND HAVING TO COME UP WITH AGAIN FIRST AND LAST MONTH'S RENT DEPOSITS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO WE HELP THEM OFTENTIMES WITH THAT ONE 400 DOLLAR PAYMENT THAT WAS GOING TO SEND THEM OVER THE EDGE TO STAY IN THEIR CURRENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO WE SAW A SURGE LAST YEAR, 450 PERCENT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES CALLING US TO TRY TO PREVENT GOING HOMELESS AS THAT UNEMPLOYMENT RATE SPIKED, WHEN AND IF THE EVICTION MORATORIUM GETS LIFTED, WE EXPECT ANOTHER HUGE SURGE OF PEOPLE RELATED TO THAT.

SO WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THAT.

WE HOPE THINGS ARE GOING TO LEVEL OUT SOON HERE.

WE HOPE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET BACK TO WORK, BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO PREDICT THAT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT? I WRITE THE GRANTS.

I'M NOT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BUT I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH PALM BAY MORE SO THAN WE HAVE IN THE RECENT PAST.

AND THAT'S BEEN ON US, NOT ON Y'ALL.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO GET BACK IN IT.

THANK YOU. THANKS, PETER JACKSON.

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I AM A THE INDEPENDENT LIVING COORDINATOR AND ALSO AN INSTRUCTOR FOR THE CONKLIN DAVIS CENTER. AND FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO THANK YOU.

THE CONKLIN DAVIS CENTER WANTS TO THANK YOU FOR THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CBD GRANT.

THIS GRANT WILL HELP US REACH AND PROVIDE TRAINING TO AND OTHER SERVICES TO A MINIMUM OF 40 PALM BAY RESIDENTS DURING THE GRANT PERIOD.

ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS DATA COLLECTED IN 2020.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS HOME TO ONE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY SEVEN INDIVIDUALS AND IS GROWING RAPIDLY AMONG THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN PALM BAY, THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN INDIVIDUALS REPORTED BEING BLIND OR VISUALLY IMPAIRED.

SINCE PALM BAY HAS OVER 20000 INDIVIDUALS AGE 65 AND OLDER, THE NUMBER WHO REPORT VISION DEFICIENCIES IS NOT SURPRISING.

IN 2020, THE CONKLIN DAVIS CENTER PROVIDED BLINDNESS AND LOW VISION SUPPORT SERVICES TO APPROXIMATELY 30 PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

THIS IS LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS WHO ARE VISUALLY IMPAIRED, ACCORDING TO RECENT CENSUS DATA.

DURING THE GRANT PERIOD, CONKLIN DAVIS WILL NETWORK WITH SENIOR CENTERS AS WELL AS EYE CARE CENTERS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO IDENTIFY PALM BAY RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM OUR SERVICES.

WE SERVE PERSONS OF ALL AGES FROM BABIES TO SENIOR CITIZENS SPECIFIC SERVICE THAT SPECIFIC SERVICES PROVIDED WILL DEPEND ON THE AGE AND NEEDS OF THE VISUALLY IMPAIRED.

RESIDENTS SERVED OUR TARGETED PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDE INDEPENDENT LIVING TRAINING, ORIENTATION AND MOBILITY, WHICH IS TRAVEL TRAINING, ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY AND JOB READINESS TRAINING AS WELL AS OUR BABIES.

CHILDREN'S AND TEEN PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED TO ASSIST WITH VARYING AGE GROUPS AND LEVELS OF SIGHT LOSS. FUNDS RECEIVED THROUGH THE PALM BAY CHEBEAGUE GRANT PROGRAM WILL BE USED TO ASSIST IMPAIRED, VISUALLY IMPAIRED AND BLIND PALM BAY RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OR MORE OF THE MANY SERVICES THAT CONKLIN DAVIS CENTER PROVIDES.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING US FOR THE CDB GRANT AWARD RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL HELP US ASSIST RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY WHO ARE EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT SIGHT LOSS TO REMAIN INDEPENDENT AND TO CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

BECKY LINDSTRÖM.

HER NAME'S BECKY LUNDSTROM, I'M WITH THE WOMEN'S CENTER, AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I DID WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

CITIES FOR YOU REALLY, REALLY HELPED OUR CLIENTS.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE WOMEN'S CENTER, WE'VE BEEN HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY SINCE NINETEEN SEVENTY FIVE.

AND WE HELP WOMEN, MEN, EVEN THEIR NAMES.

THE WOMEN'S CENTER, A GOOD PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT WE SERVE OUR MEN AND CHILDREN.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT NO VICTIM OF VIOLENCE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, WOULD BE WITHOUT THE CARE AND SUPPORT THEY NEED.

HE'LL LIVE A LIFE, LIVE A LIFE FREE OF ABUSE AND HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THEIR FAMILY. HERE IN PALM BAY, WE HAVE A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND IN THEIR CHILDREN.

THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR THE PROGRAM HERE.

YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERYONE HAS SAID, THERE'S A HOMELESS PROBLEM PROBLEM.

IT'S GROWING LARGER AND THERE'S A LARGE INTERSECTION BETWEEN HOMELESSNESS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND NOT BEING ABLE.

KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO LIVE IS A HUGE FACTOR IN DECIDING TO LEAVE YOUR ABUSER, NOT COVID AMONG THE OTHER THINGS THAT IT DIDN'T HELP US WITH.

BUT IT DIDN'T HELP WITH THAT EITHER, WITH PEOPLE DECIDING TO LEAVE.

THOUSAND TWENTY OR A DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT UNIFORM CRIME REPORT IS RECENTLY RELEASED AND PALM BAY HAD NINE HUNDRED AND FIVE TOTAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFENSES, WHICH DID INCLUDE ONE MURDER, ONE TWO RAPES AND SIXTY FOR AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.

OUR AGENCY AND THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE ARE CRUCIAL TO SOMEONE REBUILDING THEIR LIFE AFTER THESE TYPES OF CRISES.

AND WHILE CLIENTS ARE IN OUR PROGRAM, THEY CAN SAY THEY HAVE A SAFE, SECURE, STABLE HOUSE

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THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY THE TWENTY FOUR MONTHS, BUT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR THAT TIME BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO REBUILD WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING.

AND NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE THAT HOUSE, BUT OUR PROGRAM COMES WITH A SUITE OF SERVICES WHICH INCLUDES INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT.

HELP SOMEONE WHO'S NOT USED TO HAVING THEIR OWN BANKING.

MAYBE NOT USED TO HAVING A JOB BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN A CONTROLLED SITUATION, GET THOSE SKILLS, LEARN THOSE SKILLS IF THEY NEED.

WE'RE BUILDING EDUCATION RECERTIFICATION, WE HELP THEM WITH THAT SO THEY CAN BECOME MORE EMPLOYABLE OR IF THEY ARE EMPLOYED, INCREASE THEIR INCOME, WE PROVIDE COUNSELING SERVICES FOR THE WOMEN AND THE CHILDREN FREE OF CHARGE WEEKLY TO HELP WITH TRAUMA RESOLUTION FROM THEIR FROM THEIR PAST, LEARN TO BUILD THEIR SELF-ESTEEM, LEARN COPING SKILLS THAT THEY NEED DESPERATELY.

WE OFFER FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR CHILD CARE, TRANSPORTATION, MEDICAL ASSISTANCE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON ON THOSE BECAUSE THOSE CAR BREAKS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. SO THEY CAN SAVE MONEY BECAUSE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WE WANT THEM PLANNING TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE US AND WE WANT THEM TO LEAVE TO PERMANENT HOUSING.

AND SINCE WE STARTED OUR PROGRAM IN 2004, REALLY PROUD TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A NINETY TWO PERCENT SUCCESS RATE OF CLIENTS LEAVING, GOING TO PERMANENT HOUSING, NOT GOING TO A SHELTER WITH INCREASED INCOME BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE AND.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR HELPING US WITH THAT AND HELPING THOSE CLIENTS.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAM THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT YOU'VE HEARD WITH THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEMS. WE WORK WITH ALL OF THEM, AND IT'S I SAID IT BEFORE WHEN WE WERE HERE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT OR THE BOARD MEETING, AND IT'S FANTASTIC TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE SERVICES THAT ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THEM.

AND IT'S GREAT. HEAR THAT AND SEE WHAT ELSE THE SUPPORT IS FOR OUR AREA.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

DO YOU DO YOU PROVIDE? A HOTLINE FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

YES, WE HAVE A 24/7 HOTLINE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS WELL AS SEXUAL ASSAULT.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT HOTLINES.

AND ALSO, ARE YOU COORDINATE WITH PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT IF THEY COME ACROSS INCIDENTS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND OR.

OK, YES, I SAY YES.

YES, WE DO. YES, SIR.

AND WHAT ABOUT A RESTRAINING ORDER? DO YOU ASSIST THE VICTIMS GETTING A RESTRAINING ORDER? WE SURE DO. YES. WE HAVE ADVOCATES, VICTIM ADVOCATE, STAFF AND VOLUNTEER ADVOCATES THAT ASSIST OUR CLIENTS WITH INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION FILING.

IT WILL GO AND DO THE PETITION WHEN THE COURTS WERE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID, THAT WAS A. A BAD THING AND BUT YES, WE GO, WE'LL GO, WE'LL SIT WITH THE CLIENT, THE JUDGES AND THE CLERKS OF COURT ARE VERY WELL VERSED WITH OUR ADVOCATES AND ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM.

AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ADVOCATE JUST SITS THERE WITH WITH OUR CLIENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY'LL SHIELD OF YOU.

THE ABUSER CAN'T SEE THEM.

THEY CAN'T SEE THEM BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT.

HAVE YOU SEEN AN INCREASE SINCE KOVIK STARTED SINCE LAST MARCH AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PALM BAY? YES, ALL OVER THE COUNTY, OUR HOTLINE HAS SEEN AN INCREASE.

AT FIRST WE DID. IT WAS PRETTY QUIET, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW QUITE WHAT TO EXPECT IT.

IT WAS QUIET. AND WE'RE LIKE.

IT'S HAPPENING AS THINGS START OPENING UP.

ALREADY GETTING MORE AND MORE CALLS, I THINK WHAT THE ADVOCATES TELL ME, I'M NOT A VICTIM ADVOCATE, SO I DON'T GET THOSE CALLS, BUT I'VE ASKED THEM AND.

THINGS WERE REALLY UNCERTAIN, PEOPLE JUST TRIED TO MAINTAIN.

STAY LOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ASKING YOU I'M GOING TO TALK TO THE CITY, I'M GOING TO TALK TO A GROUP. WHAT WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? AND. OK, IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT, THIS WHAT IT IS AND.

THEY KEPT TELLING ME IT WAS AN INCREASE IN INTENSITY AND SEVERITY.

WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? LIKE, WELL, WITH PEOPLE NOT GOING OUT, NOT GOING TO WORK.

PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD AGAINST HER WILL LONGER BECAUSE NO ONE'S GOING TO MISS THEM.

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OR THE TRAUMA INFLICTED IS MORE SEVERE, AGAIN, BECAUSE NO ONE'S GOING TO SEE THAT NO.

AND THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I IMAGINED.

AND IT WAS SHOCKING AND SAID.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD.

THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOUR GROUP IS DOING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE. I DEALT WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WHEN I WAS AN OFFICER IN THE MOST DISGUSTING CALLS.

I GO ON SEE WOMEN ABUSED BY THEIR HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND.

IT'S LIKE THAT, YEAH, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING THERE, I.

NOW, IMAGINE IT'S A NATIONAL ISSUE AND IT'S SOMETHING LIKE IT'S NEVER GOING TO END, I DON'T KNOW. WE TRY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. YEAH.

AND WITH ADDITIONAL CARDS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? OR AGAINST THIS IS THIS ITEM, THE FORWARD MANMAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

I'M PAULA SCHROETER, AND I'M WITH AGING MATTERS IN BOVARD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO SIGN UP, BUT ANYWAY, YOU ARE FUNDING US AS WELL.

SO WE ARE RECEIVING THE 20000 DOLLARS FOR OUR MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM AND WE DELIVER MEALS TO HOMEBOUND SENIORS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING WILL GO TO SUPPLEMENT THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE FOR 62 PEOPLE. AT LAST COUNT, WE ACTUALLY SERVE 150 PEOPLE IN PALM BAY AND WE WERE JUST ABLE TO ADD A NEW ROUND AS WELL, WHICH IS A BIG, BIG DEAL BECAUSE WE'RE SERVING FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS TO GO OUT AND OUR OUR ROUTES ARE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER ALL THE TIME.

LAST YEAR WE HAD MAYBE AN AVERAGE OF 10 PEOPLE ON A ROUTE.

NOW WE'VE GOT 15, 16.

SO THE DEMAND IS IS VERY HIGH.

AND THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THEIR HOMES FOR DECADES.

THEY WANT TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES AS OPPOSED TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE.

OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

SO NOT ONLY DO WE SERVE THEM MEALS, BUT WE'VE GOT HANDYMEN THAT WILL COME OUT AND BUILD A RAMP FOR THEM IF THEY NEED IT.

WE HAVE HOME CARE SERVICES, BUT THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING WILL GO TO THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM AND IT'S A HOT MEAL PREPARED, FRESH IN OUR KITCHEN UP.

AND COCO, WE'VE GOT IT'S LIKE A MACHINE.

THE LOGISTICS OF IT ARE JUST UNBELIEVABLE.

THE MEALS ARE ALL PACKAGED INDIVIDUALLY.

THEY'RE SENT DOWN ON A TRUCK TO PEACE LUTHERAN CHURCH.

THE VOLUNTEERS COME AND PICK THEM UP AND DELIVER THEM ALL THROUGHOUT PALM BAY.

AND WE'RE REALLY HOPING WE CAN GET A DISTRIBUTION SITE IN THE SOUTHWEST PART OF PALM BAY BECAUSE YOU GOT A BIG TOWN HERE AND OUR VOLUNTEERS DRIVE A LOT OF MILES.

BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE THE HELP.

AND IT'S A REAL YOU KNOW, IT JUST SOMETIMES THE SENIORS ARE JUST KIND OF FORGOTTEN BECAUSE THEY'RE ALONE.

THEY'RE LIVING SOMETIMES BEHIND THAT CLOSED DOOR BEHIND THE YARD THAT MAYBE ISN'T KEPT UP VERY WELL ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT.

BUT AT LEAST WHEN WE HAVE WE HAVE A LIVE HUMAN BEING GOING TO THEIR DOOR AND SEEING THEM EVERY DAY AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE OK.

IF I CAN JUST TELL ONE ONE STORY THAT JUST REALLY RIPPED MY HEART OUT.

WE HAD AND THIS IS A WOMAN IN PALM BAY AND SHE'S LIVING WITH HER CHILDREN.

THEY YOU KNOW, THEY AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THE FOOD THAT SHE NEEDS.

SO WE DELIVER THE MEAL.

SHE PASSED A NOTE TO OUR VOLUNTEER.

THIS IS JUST RECENTLY.

IT JUST SAID, HELP ME.

AND IT TURNS OUT THAT SHE WAS ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE OFTENTIMES VERY UNFORTUNATELY ABUSED BY THEIR OWN FAMILY, TAKING THEY'RE TAKING THEIR FOOD, TAKING THEIR MONEY, THEY GET THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK, NOT GIVE IT TO HER.

AND I KNOW IT JUST IT JUST KNOCKED ME FLAT WHEN I SAW THAT.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER AGENCIES IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP IN THAT WAY. WE'VE HAD VOLUNTEERS GO TO THE HOUSES OF PEOPLE AND AND THEY WILL HAVE FALLEN AND THEY CAN'T GET OUT.

AND SO WE'VE GOT A WHOLE PROCESS IN PLACE.

IF SOMEBODY'S NOT THERE WHEN WE GO TO DELIVER THEIR MEAL, WE'LL CALL THE HOSPITALS, WE CALL THE DOCTOR. WE CALL THE EMERGENCY CONTACT UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE THAT PERSON IS.

SO IT'S MORE THAN A MEAL, IS WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY.

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THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 TO 2020, TO CHEBEAGUE AT HOME PROGRAM FUNDING AND PROVIDE NOTICE TO SOLICIT PUBLIC COMMENT AND NOTICE A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 15, 20, 21 SECOND. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, AND I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS COUNCILMAN, FELIX, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN.

YEAH, BAILEY, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, I KNOW WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, NOT FELT LIKE MAYBE OTHERS WANTED ME TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'VE JUST DEFINITELY LISTENING.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL SHOWING UP TONIGHT IN FORCE.

HONESTLY, I'VE BEEN UP HERE SEVEN YEARS.

I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE SEEN THE LIKE EVERY SINGLE PERSON COME UP AGENCY THAT THAT WAS AWARDED OR BEING RECOMMENDED FOR WANTING TO SHOW UP.

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY GOOD HEARING STORIES.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING GOOD WORK.

JUST REAL QUICKLY ON THE MEALS ON WHEELS.

I DO, REALLY.

I WASN'T A PERMANENT VOLUNTEER, BUT I WAS LIKE A FILL IN VOLUNTEER.

MY MOTHER WAS I WASN'T HERE.

I WAS IN A DIFFERENT STATE, PREVIOUS STATE, SMALLER COMMUNITY.

SO I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S MORE THAN JUST A MILL.

I REMEMBER ONE PARTICULAR LADY, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I SHOWED UP, SHE JUST WHEN SHE CAME ME ABOUT 15 MINUTES, BECAUSE USUALLY THE VOLUNTEERS ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT IS AROUND HERE. BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S RETIREES OR FOLKS WHO HAVE THAT THAT TIME IT WASN'T MANY YOUNG FOLKS. SO I THINK SHE REALLY LIKE THE FACT SHE HAS A COLLEGE AGE YOUNG MAN AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SHE COULD KEEP THERE FOR FIFTEEN MINUTES WHILE OUR NEIGHBOR, WHO WAS A YOU KNOW, HE'S BRIGHT IN 70S, WAS OUTSIDE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT WAITING ON ME TO SAY, HEY, WE GOT TO GO GET MORE OF THESE BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A DEMAND. BUT IT CERTAINLY IS MORE THAN THAT.

AND HAVING THOSE INTERACTIONS AND AND HOPEFULLY THE VOLUNTEERS FROM OUR LOCAL, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES BUILD A COMMUNITY AND GIVEN OUR SIZE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS DO IT, BUT GIVEN OUR SIZE, IT'D BE NICE TO BE IN YOUR LITTLE SECTION OF THE CITY THAT WE REALLY GET TO KNOW SOME OF THESE FOLKS NOW BEING ABLE TO DO THOSE EXTRA THINGS, LIKE KNOW WHERE I CAME FROM, SNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING.

THERE IS MOUNTAINS, SO STEPS.

SO MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE CLEAR.

BUT FOR ALL ALL THE AGENCIES BEING THERE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION YOU ALL MADE TONIGHT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I HAD ANY EXTRA COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR YOU TONIGHT.

I THINK I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.

I IS UNANIMOUSLY THIS POINT.

I'M REFERRING TO MS. ADAM SMITH, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

YES, MAYOR. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBER ONE AND FIVE.

A PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER ASSIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL, A STATE HIS OR HER NAME, AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED ATTORNEYS OR APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE AND NOT FOSTER WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN OUTSOLE TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION IN THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE, OR OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION ALABI STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOW BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLY WITH SECTION FIFTY NINE NINE O3.

EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF THIRTY MINUTES.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION OF THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. A MAXIMUM OF FIFTEEN MINUTES PER WITNESS.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK OR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS.

A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES OUTSIDE JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON HIS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PRECEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.

AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, A COUNCILWOMAN WILL MAKE A MOTION IN ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

OR IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S FORTY THREE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE ZONING AUTHORITIES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY ARE CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM IUE INSTITUTIONAL USE DISTRICT TO ARTIST TO SINGLE

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AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD AND PRESENT HIS CASE.

THE EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS RICK PRIBYL.

FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MOVED I AM BY THE AMOUNT OF MINISTRIES AND OUTREACH PROGRAMS IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I CURRENTLY AM NOT A RESIDENT HERE.

I LIVE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, BUT I'M WANTING TO MOVE HERE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, STILL FIGHTING WITH MY WIFE TO GET ON BOARD WITH THAT.

BUT MY HOPE IS TO LIVE IN THIS HOUSE THAT I'M GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY.

I PURCHASED THIS HOME IN ADDITION TO SOME VACANT LAND FROM PEACE LUTHERAN CHURCH.

THIS HOME WAS BUILT IN 1973 FOR THE PASTOR OF THE CHURCH AT THAT TIME, WHICH WAS ALLOWED UNDER THE INSTITUTIONAL ZONING.

I NEED TO HAVE IT CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL IN ORDER TO CONTINUE ITS USE AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND BY THE WAY, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU ANOTHER TIME ABOUT THE VACANT LAND AS I DECIDE ABOUT A REZONING THERE, BUT FOR TONIGHT ONLY, IT'S IT'S FOR THE THREE ACRE HOME.

AND WITH YOUR APPROVAL, I HAVE I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH MY PLANS TO REFURBISH THIS HOME AND WITH MY INTENTION WITH WHAT I WANT TO DO.

I'M CONFIDENT THAT YOU'LL SEE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO ITS CURB APPEAL.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT AND THIS TIME, COUNSEL, ARE YOU COMPLETE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR? I COULD TALK MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S SUMMARIZES HOW MANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU.

IS COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT SO WE COULD CALL STAFF UP? NO QUESTIONS. OK, SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, AND AS FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THIS, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH 43, FINAL READING SECOND.

ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN.

BAILEY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

ON THE PALM BAY, YES, SIR.

WELCOME TO PALM BAY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO. WINNING IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH FORTY FIVE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185, ZONING CODE, SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS, A MODIFIED PROVISIONS OF THE BAMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE. AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND MS. SHERMAN. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS ITEM IS SECOND AND FINAL READING.

HOWEVER, BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH STAFF COMMENTS ON IT, I WANTED TO CHECK WITH COUNSEL BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION AT THE PRIOR MEETING WHERE WE CONSIDERED FIRST READING AND I WANTED TO SEE IF COUNCILWOMAN TO GIVE US DIRECTION TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR IF YOU'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

MAYOR BAILEY, YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I KNOW I MADE SOME COMMENTS, I THINK SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS DID AS WELL, OR AT LEAST MADE SOME INDICATIONS OF STAFF.

MY OPINION IS THAT I WAS A LITTLE BIT OFF IN THE WAY I WAS READING THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CHANGE AND NOW DOING SOME CALCULATIONS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT AT A FURTHER AGENDA ITEM THAT NO, IN REALITY, YOU COULD HAVE AS LITTLE AS NO.

ONE, TWO PERCENT OF COMMERCIAL AND MEET.

THERE WAS THOSE GUIDELINES, WHICH WAS NOT NEARLY AS STIFF AS I THOUGHT WAS A STRAIGHT 15 PERCENT. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REMOVE THAT EXTRA PORTION OF IT WHERE IT SAYS OR, YOU KNOW, THE 15 PERCENT OF THE FLOOR LEVEL AND CHANGE THAT OUT, JUST MAKE IT.

THAT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 15 PERCENT PERIOD AT MINIMUM.

I THINK MAYBE THAT NO PART OF MY DISCUSSION, TOO, IS THAT NOW WHETHER THAT NUMBER IS EVEN NOW, MAYBE THAT NUMBER NEEDS TO BE HIGHER BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED MORE RESIDENTIAL.

BUT I AT LEAST NEED 15 PERCENT IN A WAY THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

IN THE END, YOU COULD IT'S 15 PERCENT OF THE BOTTOM, BUT NOT NOT 50 PERCENT OF THE REST OF THE. AND WHEN YOU GO BEYOND ONE STORY, THOSE DON'T COUNT.

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AND SO I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE FOR MY SUPPORT TO CONTINUE THE WAY IT IS.

AT LEAST NEED THE 15 PERCENT AS A HARD MINIMUM AND THEN KNOW IF COUNCIL'S INTEREST AND NO REASON TO LIKE 20 PERCENT OR 20 SOMETHING HIGHER.

I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY AMENABLE TO THAT.

AND I THINK PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS EVEN 25 PERCENT.

AT ONE POINT I WAS RATTLING THAT.

THAT WAS JUST IN MY MIND.

BUT WHEN WE FIGURED OUT THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET TO THAT 15 PERCENT, IT WAS JUST THE MAXIMUM. I THINK IT IS A CONCERN BY THE ENTIRE COUNCIL COUNCIL.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YEAH, WHAT IT WAS, IS THERE A MAXIMUM OF 85 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL USES SO THAT 15 PERCENT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING? YOU KNOW, IT COULD HAVE BEEN WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

SO THAT WAS THE CONCERN WITH US.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LIMIT WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE A SECTION OF PALM BAY THAT IS READY FOR MORE THAN 15 PERCENT.

IT COULD BE 20 PERCENT.

SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAMSTRING OURSELVES WITH THIS.

SO I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING STAFF WORK ON IT TO SEE WHAT'S MORE BENEFICIAL.

I DO WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND DENSITY.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DENSITY IN THAT AREA, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF MAKING SURE RAISING THE STORY LEVEL OF THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

THANK YOU. LIFTED UP THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THAT.

SO I'M BEING UNDERSTANDING ON BOTH ASPECTS, BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HAMSTRING US IN THE PROCESS, SO I'M FINE WITH STAFF WORKING ON IT.

COUNCILMAN BAILEY JUST I JUST REAL QUICK, SO MY INTEREST MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PREVIOUS WAS EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT MAX RESIDENTIAL, BUT WHAT IT DID NOT DEFINE IS THAT THAT 15 REMAINING PERCENT WAS NECESSARILY COMMERCIAL, COULD HAVE BEEN INSTITUTIONAL OR OTHER USE. SO I THINK STEPS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO SAY NO, WE WANT COMMERCIAL, NOT JUST ANYTHING BUT COMMERCIAL, AND WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEN WHEN IT'S BASED ON JUST THE FLOOR AREA.

SO WE TOOK THAT 50 PERCENT WAS ONLY APPLIED TO THE FLOOR AREA.

I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW.

THAT'S ACTUALLY, IN SOME WAYS IS GOING TO REDUCE IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE COMMERCIAL AND LESS RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S ACTUALLY IN SOME WAYS GOING TO OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR DEVELOPERS TO GIVE EVEN MORE RESIDENTIAL.

THEY COULD GO EVEN HIGHER.

BUT DEFINITELY, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I'M OPEN TO IN THE BACK.

I'M HOPING WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE IT'S SOME IT'S SOME NUANCES IN THE WAY THAT WE WORD THESE THINGS.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SORRY, OH.

OK, AND I SEE DEVELOPERS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY LISTENING CAREFULLY, BUT I GUESS FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS 15 PERCENT, CAN WE OR, YOU KNOW, WORK IT POSSIBLY WHERE LIKE IF THEY DO GO TO 20 OR 25 PERCENT, THERE'S AN ADDED DENSITY BONUS OR ASKING.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S FEASIBLE FOR EVERYBODY.

I DON'T WANT TO HAMSTRING NEITHER PARTY.

SO I'M TRYING TO BE UNDERSTANDING.

SO, LIKE, WHETHER IT'S A DENSITY BONUS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, IS THAT POSSIBLE OR IS THAT ASKING TOO MUCH OR.

AND WE ALL HOLD THAT THOUGHT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER CAN WE GET A READING ON THAT, MADAM SHERMAN? WANT TO WEIGH IN? EVENING, LARRY BRADLEY, GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, I THINK THE WORDING, THE WAY IT'S PUT IN HERE IS IT'S A MAXIMUM 85 PERCENT, SO YOU CAN BUILD LESS, YOU JUST CAN'T BUILD MORE.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY REVERSING THE REGULATION FROM THE WAY IT IS NOW.

BEFORE IT WAS IT WAS A MINIMUM OF 85 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL.

SO YOU HAD TO BUILD 85 PERCENT.

NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT'S THE MOST YOU CAN BUILD.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL BY PUTTING THIS REGULATION INTO EFFECT. WE'RE WELL, WE'RE NOT REDUCING IT, BUT WE'RE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE IT, BECAUSE BEFORE YOU HAD TO BUILD 85 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD MINIMUM, YOU HAVE TO BUILD AT LEAST THAT MUCH.

NOW WE'RE SAYING IT'S A MAXIMUM, SO YOU CAN'T BUILD MORE THAN THAT.

BUT YOU COULD BUILD LESS SO.

SECOND, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. I'LL BE DONE AFTER THIS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'LL RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW.

TO PROVIDE SOMEWHAT OF AN INCENTIVE, I GUESS, OR, YOU KNOW, TO ENCOURAGE OK, LET'S NOT GO TO THE MAXIMUM OF 85, LET'S DO 80 PERCENT OR 75 PERCENT.

SO THAT WAY WE HAVE 20, 25 PERCENT TO DO COMMERCIAL.

SINCE THE CITY IS LOOKING AT ADDED DENSITY OR PARKING, I'M JUST I'M JUST EXPLORING

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I MEAN, BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, THE MINIMUM IS 85 PERCENT, WHICH MEANS I COULD BUILD 99 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL AND ONE PERCENT COMMERCIAL UNDER THIS REGULATION TODAY.

WITH THIS CHANGE, I CAN'T BUILD MORE THAN 85 PERCENT.

SO IT'S 15 PERCENT NONRESIDENTIAL USES.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT CAN GO IN VERSUS THIS, WHICH CAN GO UP TO 99 PERCENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERCENT BECAUSE IT IS A MIXED USE DISTRICT. YOU KNOW THE QUESTION, I THINK HE'S GET WHAT I'M TRYING TO HE'S HE'S GOING TO I'M SAYING I'M TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE COMMERCIAL ON MY PART.

SO I'M LOOKING AT DENSITY BONUSES OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M GETTING THAT.

SORRY. I MEAN, YOU COULD CONSIDER.

THE PROBLEM IS IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S KIND OF A ZERO SUM GAME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD MORE COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD LESS RESIDENTIAL.

SO WHAT BONUS ARE YOU GIVING A DENSITY BONUS? BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SAY BUILD MORE COMMERCIAL, BUT NOW YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM SOMEWHERE. SO YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL.

THE ONLY OTHER THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO WOULD MAYBE BE MORE HEIGHT.

YOU COULD PROBABLY GO TALLER.

BUT THEN AGAIN, I HEARD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT ELIMINATING THE FOOTPRINT VERSUS FLOOR AREA, WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE IF YOU GO JUST WITH THE FLOOR AREA RATIO AND NOT THE FOOTPRINT AND YOU GO HIGHER NOW, YOU'VE GOT MORE FLOOR AREA THAT YOU'VE GOT TO OFFSET.

SO, AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO TO HIT THAT BALANCE.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT.

BUT I THINK THE CHANGE FROM MINIMUM TO MAXIMUM IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN SEEING THAT WE'RE NOW CAPPING YOU AT 85 PERCENT.

IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO 80, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF DOING IT, TO SAY, WELL, WE'LL JUST CHANGE IT FROM EIGHTY FIVE TO EIGHTY, THEN ONLY THEN YOU HAVE 20 PERCENT NONRESIDENTIAL. OR YOU COULD CHANGE THE WORD NONRESIDENTIAL TO A MIX OF OF NON RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

SO MAYBE YOU GET SOME INSTITUTIONAL USES, MAYBE YOU GET SOME STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL OR YOU COULD HAVE PERCENTAGES WITHIN THAT 15 PERCENT TO SAY AT LEAST 10 PERCENT OF THE 15 PERCENT HAS TO BE COMMERCIAL.

SO THERE MAY BE OTHER WAYS OF SLICING IT TO MAKE IT ALL FIT WITHIN THIS THIS MODEL.

SURE, COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS YOUR QUESTION DIRECTED TOWARDS THAT? YES, YES, IT WAS.

WHAT IN TERESE? AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW, THE MAXIMUM AT RESIDENTIAL IS 85 PERCENT, RIGHT UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE OR THE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, THE MAXIMUM IS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS GOING TO CAP RESIDENTIAL AT 85 PERCENT.

THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, YOU CAN GO UP TO 99 PERCENT.

OK? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, OK? HE'S SPEAKING OUT RIGHT NOW. YEAH, OK.

IT'S 85 PERCENT THE MAX, RIGHT? YES, THAT OTHER 15 PERCENT COULD BE ANYTHING CORRECT, ANYTHING EXCEPT RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT GIVES THE DEVELOPER FLEXIBILITY.

YES. BUT AS FAR AS GETTING THAT 15 PERCENT IS STRICTLY COMMERCIAL, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THAT IN THIS PROPOSAL.

AM I CORRECT? YEAH, I MEAN, FIRST, I THINK YOU'D WANT TO ESTABLISH WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF ITS 80 OR 85 AND THEN ONCE YOU ESTABLISH THAT, THEN YOU CAN START TO TAKE THAT REMAINDER, WHETHER IT'S 15 PERCENT OR 20, AND THEN TRY TO STRATIFY THAT TO SAY WE WANT 10 PERCENT OF THE 20 PERCENT OR 10 PERCENT OF THE 15 PERCENT TO BE COMMERCIAL AND THE OTHER FIVE PERCENT CAN BE INSTITUTIONAL OR IT COULD BE SOME OTHER INDUSTRIAL, IT COULD BE ANY OTHER USE OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.

SO YOU CAN SPECIFY THAT YOU COULD SAY 10 PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND THE REMAINDER IS ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NONRESIDENTIAL.

SO IT COULD BE MORE COMMERCIAL OR IT COULD BE SOME INSTITUTIONAL OR INDUSTRIAL TYPE USE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU RECOMMEND? YOU COULD DO THAT, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU IF YOUR GOAL IS TO GET MORE COMMERCIAL AND TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMERCIAL IS A COMPONENT, IT'S NOT JUST A SCHOOL OR AN INDUSTRIAL USE.

YES, YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT ESTRADA IN THERE THAT WOULD SAY OF THE 15 PERCENT.

OR IF WE GO TO 80, 20 PERCENT, 10 PERCENT OF IT HAS TO BE COMMERCIAL.

THAT WOULD THAT WOULD KIND OF CREATE SOME STRATEGIES WHERE YOU COULD HAVE ONE WHERE YOU HAVE 10 PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE OTHER FIVE PERCENT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE, A SCHOOL, AN INSTITUTION, A CHURCH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT NONPROFIT.

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HERE, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED, SOME OF MY CONCERNS BEING ADDRESSED, SO, YEAH, I WOULD DEFER MY TIME. ALL RIGHT, SO.

IT'S REALLY UPSETTING THAT THAT THAT LOGIC AND I LIKE THE COMPROMISE, I LIKE THE YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO 80, 20 AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU COULD SAY 10 COMMERCIAL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE REST COULD BE INSTITUTIONAL.

I KIND OF LIKE THAT COMPROMISE IN.

I THINK IT'S A FOCUS OF THIS COUNCIL TO INCREASE OUR COMMERCIAL BASE, AND I THINK THAT GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND GIVEN DIRECTION, YES, I GOT A COUNCILMAN FOSTER MAYOR.

I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

I THINK IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBILITY.

WE GET WHAT WE THE COMMERCIAL WE NEED 80 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL MAX.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER 20 PERCENT DIVIDED IN HALF.

I THINK THAT BE A GOOD MIXED USE OF IT.

COUNCILMAN, BAILEY, AND SO AND SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT INSTEAD OF FOCUS ON RESIDENTIAL, I AGREE IT'S SIGNIFICANT GOING FROM A SO YOU HAVE A FLOOR OF 85 PERCENT AND THEY COULD HAVE WENT UP TO 99 PERCENT PREVIOUSLY.

NOW WE'RE SAYING IT'S A MAX OF 85 PERCENT, BUT THEY COULD GO DOWN TO ONE PERCENT IN ORDER TO STILL BE MIXED USE. SO WE'RE TAKING IT FROM THAT UPPER 15 PERCENT TO THE BOTTOM 85 PERCENT SIGNIFICANT.

YES, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT THE OTHER 15 PERCENT COULD STILL BE PRIMARILY NONCOMMERCIAL.

MY FOCUS IS NOT JUST THE RESIDENTIAL.

MY FOCUS IS COMMERCIAL.

THEREFORE, MY OPINION IS THAT THE FLOOR THERE SHOULD BE A FLOOR SET FOR HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE THERE, WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE REST OF A RESIDENTIAL OR INSTITUTIONAL. FRANKLY, THAT'S NOT MY FOCUS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT WHY I'M HERE, ABOUT HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL WE'RE GETTING.

AND I DON'T WANT HOUSES THROWN OUT WITH UP WITH THAT.

I DON'T WANT THE HOUSING THROWN UP WITHOUT THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT IN THIS MIX USED ZONING.

SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHATEVER I DON'T MEAN I'M OK.

MY EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP IN THE ZONING.

IS THAT THEY HAVE REALLY NOW 25 PERCENT, PROBABLY MY IDEAL, BECAUSE MY GOAL IS A 30 PERCENT MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND OUR OVERALL AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE WHEN WE'RE STARTING AT 10 PERCENT IN OUR CURRENT SITUATION IS BY ENACTING LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO BE AT 30 PERCENT OR HIGHER.

AND JUST USING THAT SIMPLE FACT THAT GENERALLY COMMERCIAL IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN PER SQUARE FOOT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE 30 PERCENT BECAUSE THE ACTUAL CARE ABOUT VALUE, NOT FLOORSPACE.

RIGHT. AND WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO USE VALUE TO MAKE THESE DETERMINATIONS WHEN WE'RE DOING ZONINGS AND BEFORE THEY BUILD IT.

BUT WE DO YEARS IN THE FLOOR SPACE AS A ROUGH PROXY IN THIS SITUATION.

SO I WAS OK WITH 15 PERCENT KNOWING THAT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT WAS A MINIMUM OF THAT.

BUT WHENEVER I WORK OUT THAT IT CAN BE IS REALLY IT COULD BE AS LITTLE AS A COUPLE PERCENT ON THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT.

RESIDENTIAL WAS LOWER.

A COMMERCIAL IS NOT NECESSARILY HIGHER IN THAT SITUATION.

THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR ME.

I WANT SOME TYPE OF FLOOR FOR THE COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S THAT'S MY. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT YOU COME UP WITH TWO ADDITIONAL EDITS TO THIS, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO, ONE, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE 80 PERCENT TO MAKE THAT A BIGGER A LOWER NUMBER, SAY 80.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS YOU WANT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT TO BE COMMERCIAL SET THAT LEVEL. SO IS THAT IF WE GO 20 PERCENT, DO YOU WANT 10 PERCENT OF THE OF THAT OR 10 PERCENT OF IT TO BE COMMERCIAL AND THE OTHER CAN BE SOME OTHER USE THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME DIRECTION STAFF TO SAY, OK, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS PERCENTAGE OR WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT AT 85 PERCENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 10 PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND FIVE PERCENT COULD BE INSTITUTIONAL OR NONPROFIT. SO I LEAVE IT TO YOU ALL TO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE HERE.

BUT THOSE WOULD BE MY SUGGESTIONS FIRST.

ARE YOU OK WITH THE 85 PERCENT? DO YOU WANT IT? YOU WANT LESS RESIDENTIAL, MORE NONRESIDENTIAL? AND THEN WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF COMMERCIAL? 10 PERCENT, 15 PERCENT.

I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING HERE, WE COULD DEFINITELY GO TO 80 AND THEN THE 20 COULD BE DIVIDED, 15 IN FIVE INSTITUTIONAL 15 OR 15 COMMERCIAL AND FIVE INSTITUTIONAL.

THAT'S YOU KNOW, I KNOW HE WANTS A COUNCILMAN.

BAILEY WANTS TO GO HIGHER.

I'M NOT HEARING IT FROM EVERYONE HERE.

I THINK WE GOT TO COME TO A CONSENSUS.

SO THE QUESTION IS VALID.

HOW HIGH ARE WE GOING TO GO?

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RESIDENTIAL HAS THE EFFECT ON LEAVING 15 PERCENT FOR NONRESIDENTIAL, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON RESIDENTIAL SCRAP.

THAT REALLY THAT THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION ANYMORE.

OUR FOCUS IS COMMERCIAL.

YOU MAKE A MINIMUM OF 15 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

WHATEVER IS LEFT IS IS ALREADY IT'S IT'S BY DEFAULT A MAXIMUM OF 85 PERCENT.

OK, SO FOR ME TO BE REDUNDANT, TO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE PROVISIONS IN THERE, WE CAN'T REPLACE THE 80. I DON'T CARE ABOUT 85, 80 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL.

I CARE ABOUT COMMERCIAL.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A FLOOR FOR COMMERCIAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE COULD BE RESIDENTIAL INSTITUTION, USE WHATEVER THEY END UP DOING WITH IT NOW.

WELL, THAT IS ANOTHER THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION.

YOU COULD SAY MINIMUM 15 PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE REST IS OPEN TO DEVELOPERS DECISION WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT THEIR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER WANTED TO WAIT.

NO, NO, NO, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

I'M FINE WITH 15 PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND 85 OR 80 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL, I THINK.

OR WE COULD DO 10 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

I MEAN, 15, 18 PERCENT COMMERCIAL AND FIVE PERCENT SOMETHING ELSE.

I WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.

JUST BECAUSE WE WANT COMMERCIAL, IT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THAT MUCH COMMERCIAL THERE.

SO JUST GIVING A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY FOR A DEVELOPER TO.

WE COULD GET OUR COMMERCIAL AND WE COULD GET THE PROPERTY DEVELOP.

I THINK THAT'S I THINK YOU WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.

SO I LIKE TO SPLIT THAT 20 OR 15 PERCENT UP.

IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GO 15 PERCENT COMMERCIAL, THEN WE AT LEAST FIVE PERCENT FOR SOMETHING ELSE. OR THEY COULD GO.

THEY CAN'T FILL THAT FIVE PERCENT.

THEY COULD DO 20 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

BUT I WANT SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THIS.

AND BUT I DO DEFINITELY WANT THE RESIDENTIAL TO BE 80.

EIGHTY FIVE. SO I THINK I MEAN, I LIKE YOUR IDEAL FIRST SET ABOUT SPLITTING UP THAT THAT 20 PERCENT SPLITTING UP, I'M OK WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY TO GET THE DEAL DONE. I'LL BE THERE IN A COUNCILMAN FELIX YOU WERE NEXT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. WELL, JUST WE WE ARE BEING REDUNDANT.

I MEAN, WE'RE REPEATING, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, DIFFERENT FORMAT, 15 PERCENT MINIMUM COMMERCIAL.

AND WE'D CALL IT THAT AND.

AND IT'S CLEAN, IT'S DONE THE LANGUAGE MAXIMUM, WE I MEAN, 15 PERCENT COMMERCIAL, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

IN TERMS OF INSTITUTIONAL, IS IT THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY IN THIS AREA? NO, I MEAN, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS.

I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT, 15 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

THEN WE'LL LEAVE IT TO THE DEVELOPER TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

WE NEED ROOFTOPS, BUT AS LONG AS WE CAN GET ALL 15 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE.

MAKE IT SIMPLE, OK? YOU CAN DO THAT. I THINK I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS COUNCILMAN BAILEY WHERE YOU CAN SAY, WELL, I, I THINK COUNCILMAN FELIX ISD HE GOT HE GOT IT.

AND I THINK HE WRAPPED IT UP.

SO I WON'T ADD TOO MUCH TO IT OTHER THAN SAY THAT THIS IS THIS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE THE MORE FLEXIBLE WAY OF DOING IT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO REGULATIONS THAT PIGEONHOLED THE MIDDLE. SO THE PRIMARY JOHNSON.

OK, SO 15, 15 PERCENT MINIMUM.

I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL WE WILL.

I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, WE'LL HAVE TO BRING THIS ALL THE WAY BACK TO PENNSY FOR A REVIEW AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR A NEW FIRST READING.

YOU'RE NOT THAT ALSO CAN DECIDE THEY WANT IT TO GO BACK TO PNC, BUT IT IS NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED TO GO BACK AND SAY IT IS REQUIRED THAT COUNSEL HAVE PASSED.

SO CERTAINLY CAN'T MAKE A REVISION LIKE THIS AND NOT ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER HEARING ONCE THE REVISION IS MADE. BUT THERE IS CASE LAW.

IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO GO BACK.

OK. AND I THINK YOU HAVE CONSENSUS HERE.

DO YOU DO WE NEED TO.

I HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THIS, MADAM SHERMAN.

OK. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU. YOU HAVE PROBABLY COME.

GILBERT. ALBERTON, 586

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OK, THIS ONE WAS.

I APOLOGIZE. YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.

WITH WITH THE PERCENTAGE.

EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT.

BY OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN 80 PERCENT OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT THE BIG CHANGE WHEN YOU SAY MAY, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT NONRESIDENTIAL, THE KEY POINT WAS MAKING IT COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S WHERE THE BIG, BIG PROFIT FOR THE CITY IS GOING TO LIE.

WE SAW THE SAME EFFECT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE.

PUBLICS ON U.S.

ONE. THERE'S NOTHING THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE THAT WAS GOING TO GIVE US ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL TO OFFSET THE RESIDENTIAL AND WITHOUT SOME OFFSETS, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO SUCCEED. SO BY KEEPING SOME RESIDENTIAL, WHETHER IT BE 80 OR 85 RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S GREAT. BUT THE REMAINING PERCENTAGE OF IT HAS INSTEAD OF SAYING NONRESIDENTIAL, IT SAYS COMMERCIAL. THAT'S WHERE THE KEY POINT WAS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE ALL THE RESIDENTS IN YOUR RESIDENTIAL IT AND THAT WOULD GENERATE SOME REVENUE.

BUT IF YOU HAD JUST NONRESIDENTIAL, THAT COULD BE NON TAX REVENUE.

IT COULD BE A CHURCH OR SCHOOL THAT DOES NOT PAY TAXES.

SO YOU'VE GOT THAT LAND MASS RESIDENTIAL WITH NO TAX OFFSET.

SO YOU NEEDED SOME FORM OF COMMERCIAL IN THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THIS WILL ALSO END UP RELATING BACK DOWN TO PARAGRAPH EIGHT.

I DELIBERATE YOU THANK YOU, THANK YOU AND JAKE WISE, YOU'VE GOT TO.

AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M HERE FOR TWO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT, I'M JUST HEARING THE DISCUSSION JUST FOR WHATEVER MY EXPERIENCE IS WORTH.

THE HELP COUNCIL MAKE A GOOD DECISION TO BAMU DISTRICT IS ONE OF THE CROWN JEWELS OF PALM BAY. THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY PROJECT BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND I KNOW THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS AS WELL.

I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CONSIDER ARE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

WE HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW, THE OLD DAYS INN THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF, BUT IT'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY TOUGH TO DO BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT DOES NOT WORK VERY WELL WITH THAT TYPE, WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME KIND OF CAVEAT WHERE COUNCIL COULD APPROVE OR STAFF COULD APPROVE A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT DIFFERENTLY JUST SO IT'S SUCCESSFUL RATHER THAN TRY TO FORCE FEED A 15 OR 20 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.

JUST A CONSIDERATION.

YOU TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVIZING DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.

SHARED PARKING IS A HUGE INCENTIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING MIXED USE.

TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, THE RESIDENTIAL ISN'T AS BUSY DURING THE DAY. THE COMMERCIAL IS BUSY DURING THE DAY, RESIDENTIAL IS BUSY ON THE WEEKENDS, AND SOMETIMES THE COMMERCIAL ISN'T.

SO THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL INCENTIVE TO CONSIDER.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU COULD ALWAYS HAVE SOME KIND OF A CAVEAT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE YOUR EXACT PERCENTAGES THAT YOU DECIDE ON WHETHER IT'S 15 PERCENT OR 20 PERCENT UNLESS COUNCIL APPROVES OTHERWISE, BECAUSE MAYBE THERE'S SOME GOOD PROJECT THAT WORKS.

IT DOESN'T QUITE HIT THAT MARK.

IT'S JUST THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU HAVE A 55 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT.

COMMERCIAL DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK.

AND THAT IS SOME OF THE OF THE BAMU DISTRICT HAS THE HIGHER SPEED LIMITS.

SO JUST THINGS TO CONSIDER.

I MEAN, READ THE ORDINANCE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN TONIGHT.

I JUST HEARD THE CONVERSATION AND JUST THOUGHT I'D GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY IF IT GOES BACK TO PENNSY.

HAPPY TO HELP AND GIVE OUR EXPERIENCE WITH PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK THE KEY TO THE BAMU DISTRICT IS SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S OR RESIDENTIAL OR MORE COMMERCIAL.

I THINK WE'D ALL AGREE THAT WOULD BE THE BEST.

AND SO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, PLEASE, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES REDEVELOPED.

AND IF IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL, MAYBE THAT'S WORTH WHILE.

STILL BEING A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, THE THINGS THAT SPEAK.

THANK YOU, JAKE. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK, FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AFTERWARDS, OF COURSE. ER, YEAH.

THERE IS A MISTAKE, AND AS FAR AS THE REGULAR PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT SHOULD HAVE THE SAME VERBIAGE AS NUMBER NINE WHERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST

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EMAM.

WELL, COUNSEL, I THINK MR. WISE GAVE US SOME WISE, NO PUN INTENDED, SOME WISE COUNSEL WHEN IT COMES TO REDEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE WE'RE CONSIDERING AT A WORKSHOP INCENTIVIZING EVEN FACADES IN OTHER OTHER COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT'S ALREADY HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BEING REDEVELOPED, AS HE PUT IT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS.

HOW HOW WOULD WE CONVEY THAT INFORMATION? LARRY, IS THE QUESTION, IF I MAY, MAYOR, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE PERCENTAGE WAS 85, 15 COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL OR 50 50, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR A MINIMUM OF COMMERCIAL.

BUT I'M OPEN TO, REGARDLESS OF THIS SITUATION THAT MR. WISE TALKS ABOUT, IF WE CAN FIND A WAY OF REFORMING OUR CODE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE SHARED PARKING, I KNOW WE'VE ADDRESSED PARKING STUFF.

I DON'T REMEMBER THOSE MR. WISE, BUT I KNOW SOME OTHER FOLKS.

WE'VE WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME OF THIS PARKING ISSUES IN THE PAST.

AND IF THERE'S FURTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH, I'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING THE SHARED PARKING IDEA AND ANY MIXED USE ZONE AND MAKE IT MORE OF A UNIVERSAL THING.

AND IT GOES TO THAT THE POINT THAT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MADE ALSO NOT PITCHING HOME ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOMEONE HANDCUFFED, SO TO SPEAK.

I PREFER TO USE THAT TERM.

SO, LARRY.

DID YOU HEAR THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HANDCUFF ANYONE, WE WANT TO CONSIDER SHARED PARKING AS WELL.

I'M SURE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE PARKING REGULATION, IT'S NOT IN THIS CHAPTER, ACTUALLY, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT CHAPTER, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT A SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENT WHEN THERE IS A RATIO OF A SPLIT ZONE OR A MIXED ZONE.

SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR YOU BECAUSE I WASN'T PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT SHARED PARKING RIGHT NOW. BUT I WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO EITHER WAY, THIS IS COMING BACK.

HE FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN.

OK, SO WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ADAM SMITH. YES, I WOULD RECOMMEND ACTUALLY MAKING A MOTION AND YES, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DATE CERTAIN ON A PUBLIC HEARING.

OK, I'LL I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION SAID YOU DO NEED A DATE CERTAIN.

YES, ON A PUBLIC HEARING, YES.

SO SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE TONIGHT ON THE AS A FIRST READING ON THE WE NEED TO DO THE FIRST READING NEXT MEETING.

CORRECT. YES, I DON'T.

I MEAN, IF THERE WERE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WE WERE INSERTING, BUT I THINK THERE IS MORE OF A CONCEPT THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FORMULATE SOME LANGUAGE. SO AT THIS POINT, YES, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IF COUNCIL'S NOT GOING WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WHICH IS HERE'S A PROPOSAL, YOU ALL DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE TO REALLY VOTE ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WE WILL BRING THIS BACK FOR FIRST READING AT THE JULY 15TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

I WAS GOING TO SAY FOR DISCUSSION.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY IN THE SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JONES AND OTHERS SAY JUST REAL QUICK, I SEE THE STAFF OVER THERE DISCUSSING MAYBE THERE'S A MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME. I'LL ALLOW.

I THINK OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST IF WE MAY, AUGUST 5TH, I BELIEVE. AND THEN MY MOTION TO BE TO BE AUGUST 5TH, SO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON PULLS HIS SECOND AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY I AMEND THE MOTION TO BE AUGUST 5TH, 2ND.

I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH, NO PROBLEM HERE OR IT IS TWENTY, TWENTY ONE.

THAT'S FORTY SEVEN. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORISSA'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CO..

CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS, SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION.

A FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

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ARE YOU DOING, MAN? GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

ROCHELLE LONSDALE'S THREE FIVE SHERWOOD AVENUE, SATELLITE BEACH, FLORIDA.

I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN PALM BAY THAT I SAW EARLIER AT THIS MEETING ARE JUST SO IMPRESSIVE AND INSPIRING.

AND TO SEE THOSE YOUNG KIDS DOING THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP WAS JUST REALLY HEARTWARMING.

SO KUDOS TO EVERYONE AND YOUR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

SO BACK TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

I JUST HAD I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT IT'S A REALLY SIMPLE REQUEST.

WE'RE ASKING FOR AN AREA WHICH HAS TO BE DESIGNATED AS MULTIFAMILY UNDER YOUR CURRENT CODE IN ORDER TO ALLOW US TO DO TOWNHOMES WITHIN THIS LARGE DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, COUNCILMAN.

REAL QUICK AND FORGIVE ME, BAILEY, I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY DISCUSSED SOME STAFFS BEFORE THE MEETING, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. ARE YOU CONDITIONING YOURSELF TO ONLY TOWNHOMES IN THIS MULTIFAMILY ZONE? I'M SORRY. AND.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT, YOU'RE WILLING TO DO SO, YOU'RE WILLING RIGHT NOW TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE IF WE DO THAT, THAT IT WILL BE LIMITED TO TOWNHOMES ONLY AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS CLEARED.

YES, WE ARE. AS MS. SMITH. IS THAT SUFFICIENT? WELL, YES, I AM ASSUMING THAT UNDER YOUR CODE, SINCE YOUR CODE ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY, THAT THAT WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL.

BUT I THOUGHT YOUR QUESTION ON MAY HAVE BEEN READING INTO IT THAT YOU DON'T WANT APARTMENTS THERE AND AS.

CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING.

WELL, READING TO MY QUESTIONS THAT I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE OPEN THE DOOR FOR APARTMENTS, LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY.

NO, THERE WILL BE NO APARTMENTS THERE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN FROM THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY STAFF COMMENTS ARE VERY BROADLY A GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

YES, OUR MULTIFAMILY LAND USE ACTUALLY DOES ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL.

SO IF YOU ALLOW MULTIFAMILY, YOU ALSO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY, BECAUSE IF YOU THEY'RE BOTH ALLOWED IN MULTIFAMILY LAND USE SO YOU CAN GET SINGLE FAMILY, YOU CAN GET MULTIFAMILY.

YOU CAN ALSO CONDITION THE LAND USE.

YOU CAN PUT A CONDITION ON THAT SAYS NO APARTMENTS.

YOU COULD SAY TOWNHOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY ONLY.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING AS WELL.

STAFF REVIEW THIS.

WE HAD NO SPECIFIC CONCERNS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT IT.

IT'S A SMALL SCALE.

IN FACT, A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING TO BE SMALL SCALE NOW THANKS TO THE LEGISLATURE.

BUT WE'LL GO THERE NOW.

AND YEAH, THIS WAS REVIEWED.

IT WAS APPROVED, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING AND ZONING AND BY STAFF.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNSEL? THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WILL STEP FORWARD? BACKTRACK, MAYOR, I WAS NOT WRONG, IT WAS NOT QUASI JUDICIAL, SO I DID NOT RESUBMIT MY PAPERWORK, I'LL BE THE ANSWER WE RECEIVED.

ALL RIGHT, MESSAGE RECEIVED.

OK, I DIDN'T THINK I MADE A MISTAKE.

QUESTION NUMBER ONE, WHERE IS THIS? WHERE IS THE ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE ZONE CHANGE GOING TO BE? I COULD NOT SEE ANYTHING FOR THE ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN THIS DISTRICT.

I SEE I'VE SEEN SEVERAL PERSPECTIVE MAPS, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN WHERE WE ARE, IF ANYTHING, WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY KIND OF DECIDED.

SO MY QUESTION IS ONE, WHERE IS ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS LAND CHANGE? THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THIS IS JUST A HALF AN ANCHOR SHY OF OF BEING WHAT WE CALL A SMALL SCALE OR SMALL SCALE CHANGE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING SEPARATE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE CHANGE. IF IT WAS ONE HALF ACRE LARGER, IT WOULD BE CALLED A LARGE SCALE CHANGE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PROCESS.

AND I'VE BEEN SEEING A WHOLE LOT OF THIS WHERE EVERYTHING OF DEVELOPERS IS BEING SMALL PIECE, SMALL PIECE, SMALL PIECE JUST UNDER THE 10 ACRE, 10 ACRE SITE, BUT TO GETTING A

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AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF THE MIND THAT THAT'S HOW BUSINESS IS BEING RUN IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND IT GIVES A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE CHANGES.

WELL, WHY DIDN'T THEY DO THAT? OH, WE MADE THESE CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED SMALL SCALE. BUT YOU ADD ENOUGH OF THE 10 ACRES OR JUST UNDER 10 ACRE SITES TOGETHER.

YES. WHAT YOU HAVE A BIG SCALE CHANGE, BUT EACH ONE WAS SMALL AND.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, HOW DOES THE POPULATION FROM MS. FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS, THESE ARE EITHER TOWNHOUSES OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

HOW DO THEY GET OUT OF THIS AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ON WHAT IS A DAVIS ROAD IS THE CLOSEST ROAD TO THAT AREA AND IT'S A DIRT ROAD.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN WE'RE PLAYING THIS THING OUT, WHERE'S THE TRAFFIC? IN FACT, I SAW AND READ YOUR STUFF THAT SAY, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES, WE'LL HAVE WATER IMPACTS, THAT WE'LL HAVE ALL THIS STUFF EVENTUALLY.

BUT WE HAVE TO GET TO CHANGE FIRST BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE ONCE YOU GET THE CHANGE MADE, ALREADY DONE. SO SOMETIMES YOU SHOULD QUESTION BEFORE YOU MAKE THE CHANGE AND THEN PROCEED, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS AREA WHEN STUFF LIKE WHEN YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE PROCESS.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MRS. CHIEF.

IS THAT WAS THAT LAW CHANGED? THE 10 ACRES WAS THAT INCREASED TO TO THE GOVERNOR, THE SANTAS INCREASE THAT TODAY, EFFECTIVE TODAY AS A MATTER.

ON TUESDAY, GOVERNOR DE SANTA SIGNED THE STATUTE THAT CHANGED IT FROM 10 ACRES TO 50 ACRES. AND IT'S EFFECTIVE TODAY.

SO IT'S NOT I MEAN, WE'RE CALLING IT SMALL SCALE, BUT IT'S WE COULD GO UP TO 40.

WE CAN GO UP TO 50 ACRES AND STILL BE SMALL SCALE AS WE SIT HERE TODAY.

AND YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE OTHER.

OH, SURE. THE OTHER THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT THIS IS JUST A LAND USE.

WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE APPLICANT IS IS PLANNING TO SUBMIT OR MAY BE SUBMITTING TOMORROW A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WOULD GO WITH THIS APPLICATION.

SO THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU.

SO THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS AREA.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE THE ROAD LAYOUTS, THE LAYOUTS, THE PLATS, ALL OF THAT'S COMING BACK TO YOU FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW.

SO THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A ROAD LAYOUT AND CONNECTIONS TO BABCOCK STREET.

SO THIS IS JUST THE LAND USE.

IT'S REALLY I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FLOATING OUT HERE IN SPACE, BUT REALLY IT'S PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT THEY HAVE NOT YET SUBMITTED IT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T LET THEM SUBMIT IT TO THE LAND.

USE WAS IN PLACE IN RELATION TO THE ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

WELL, THE ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IS STILL IN A STUDY PHASE, SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW, BUT MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE GOING SOUTH OF THIS AREA.

IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE ACERS STUDY IS CURRENTLY SHOWING, IT WILL BE RUNNING SOUTH OF THIS LAND USE.

BUT I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE IT HASN'T GOTTEN TO THAT STAGE YET.

IT'S STILL IN REVIEW AND STUDY.

ANY ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? YEAH, REAL QUICK, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY, THE DENSITY IS 20 PER ACRE, IS THAT CORRECT? THE MULTI-FAMILY DENSITY, YES, AND I GUESS WOULD IT BE LEGALLY KOSHER TO HAVE A LOWER CAP? YOU COULD YOU COULD DO THAT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS IS IT'LL BE PRETTY ZONINGS.

IT'S ALREADY PRETTY ZONING. SO YOU COULD YOU COULD RESTRICT DENSITY.

YOU PROBABLY WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT BEFORE YOU RESTRICTED THEIR DENSITY.

BUT, YEAH, YOU COULD RESTRICT THE DENSITY.

THAT'S PART OF THE LAND USE. YOU COULD DO THAT.

WHAT IS THE CURRENT DENSITY FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY THERE? FOR THE WELL, BUT ESSENTIALLY.

WELL, ON THE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE, IT'S FIVE PER ACRE ON THE MULTIFAMILY LAND.

YOU SHOULD 20 PER ACRE ON THE CURRENT LAND USE.

IT'S FIVE PER ACRE ON ON ON THE WELL, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER LAND USES OUT THERE. IT'S IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE ONLY SEEING THE ONE PIECE BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF A PARCEL YET.

IT'S NOT. IT'S A KIND OF FLOATING IN SPACE, SO TO SPEAK.

BUT THERE ARE A MIX OF MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE IS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE AREA. AND IF THEY BUILT SINGLE FAMILY, THEY THEY CAN ALSO INCREASE THE DENSITY ON THE SINGLE FAMILY.

WELL, IF IT'S IF THEY BRING REPHRASE IT.

THEY'RE TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON THE MULTIFAMILY LAND USE.

THEY CAN GO MORE THAN FIVE PER ACRE, BUT IT'LL STILL BE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AT A GREATER DENSITY. OR THEY COULD GO MULTIFAMILY UP TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND BUT THE CURRENT CURRENT LAND USE THERE IS A MAXIMUM FIVE PER ACRE OR THIS THE SFR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE LAND USE MAP HERE BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT PIECES, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS JUST A PIECE THAT'S CHANGING, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SHIFTING

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IS THERE ANY ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? WHEN MENOM.

AND YOU MIGHT HAVE ASKED A QUESTION BEFORE YOU CLOSE OR, OH, I'M I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU. I'M ASKING FOR THE.

YES. OK, SO WHAT I WANTED WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IS I KNOW THAT IN THE STAFF OR IN THE MEMO STAFF, THE MEMO IN THE MEMO SAYS THAT IT'S NOW UP TO, I THINK 190 IN THIS PARTICULAR THERE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR TOWNHOMES, IS THERE? BUT YOU SAID THAT IT STATES THAT THE DEVELOPER ARE THE OWNER.

THE APPLICANT SAYS THAT IT WON'T BE THAT MANY.

IS THERE A REASONABLE CAP THAT WE CAN APPLY TO THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVERBUILDING THERE, THAT THE AMOUNT OF LAND THERE WILL KEEP US FROM DOING ANY OVERBUILDING? IT'S GOING TO LIMIT US WITH WHAT WE CAN DO.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT 124 TOWNHOMES THAT'S GOING TO BE ON ABOUT 17 OR 18 ACRES, WHICH IS THIS LITTLE PIECES PART.

I CALL IT AN AMOEBA.

IT'S PART OF ANOTHER AMOEBA THAT WILL COMPRISE ABOUT 18 TO 20 ACRES.

WHAT'S ON THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW THAT'S COMING INTO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR TOWNHOMES.

BUT WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY IF WE YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO TO TO DO WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE MULTIFAMILY, WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE? SO RIGHT NOW, THAT'S 104 JUST ON THIS PART, RIGHT.

NOT SOME. THAT'S JUST THE TOTAL.

NOT ON THIS. NO, SIR.

NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR NINE ACRES.

IT'S ON ABOUT 18 TO 20 ACRES IS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR.

OK, SO MAYBE HALF, MAYBE MORE OR LESS, BUT OK, SO MAYBE 60.

WE NEED THE FLEXIBILITY FOR DESIGN.

WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE ROADS AND THE STORMWATER.

AND SO TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE IS REALLY HAMSTRINGING THE DESIGN IN THE OVERALL PADDYS.

I'M, I'M HOPING THAT MAKES SENSE.

MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.

WE'RE AT TWENTY AND YOUR OVERALL DESIGN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE IN THE RANGE OF WHAT, TWELVE PER ACRE. FIFTEEN, FIFTEEN.

TWELVE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. FIFTEEN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN WHERE WE'RE AT JUST BECAUSE THAT WILL CREATE A SLIGHTLY LOWER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY.

YEAH. BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE SHAPES OF THESE AMOEBAS AND THE, THE OVERALL DESIGN WHERE JAKE NEEDS TO PUT THE STORMWATER AND WHERE THE ROADS NEED TO GO AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT MAY SHIFT.

SO THIS MAY HAVE A FEW MORE UNITS THAN THE OTHER PIECE.

BUT OVERALL, THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE 20 UNITS TO THE ACRE OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS A DESIGN FOR 124 HOMES.

I'LL START MY QUESTIONING. THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, NURSING HOMES, INCOME? NO, SIR. YES, WE'RE READY.

WE'RE COMING IN WITH ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE ACRES, FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY UNITS, WHICH INCLUDES ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR TOWNHOMES AND FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S COMING.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS A PART OF.

MA'AM, THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION COUNCILMAN.

OCEAN PROVEN, IT'S 20, 21, DASH 47, ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED.

ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING TO MY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I DO HAVE SOME HESITATION TO ADD A MULTIFAMILY HERE.

I THINK I'M GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THE REASON I'M MAKING COMMENT, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S THESE ARE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THROW LOW INCOME APARTMENTS IN ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S NOT GOING TO I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IN KNOWING WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE DOING THERE AND WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND IT.

BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF OR WE ALL CONSIDER KNOW, OK, WE WANT TO LOWER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ENSURE THAT AS OTHER THINGS COME FORWARD THAT WE WATCH THAT THAT DOESN'T MORPH INTO SOMETHING MORE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S A VERY HIGH DENSITY AND LOWER VALUE PROPERTY.

BUT I DON'T I I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT RISK IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. BAILEY NOTED, I'M GOING TO CALL A QUESTION, GOT A MOTION BY OH, AS YOU WERE WELL, COUNCILMAN FELIX I TELL YOU WHAT, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT ONCE, I MEAN FOR A LONG TIME, A PROJECT, MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOMES, NOT APARTMENT COMING BEFORE.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

I WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN SUPPORT AND I DEFINITELY WOULD WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LOT MORE OF THOSE. AMAIA MAYOR, THAT HE JUST RAISED AN IMPORTANT POINT TO THIS.

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YEAH, BUT DOES THAT MEAN MADE INTO THE MOTION OF THE FIRST HALF, THE APPLICANT WENT ON THE RECORD, ADAM SMITH? WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU AND I THINK OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR MENTIONED IT IS THAT YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE THIS BACK.

SO CERTAINLY ONCE YOU ALL APPROVE WHAT'S GOING THERE, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS GO THERE.

CERTAINLY YOU WOULDN'T APPROVE THOSE.

AND WHATEVER IS APPROVED, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

IF THEY WANT TO MAKE ANY DEVIATIONS, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT.

SO I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY WELL TESTED AS FAR AS WHAT YOU WANT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND I'M COMFORTABLE WHEN THE APPLICANT SAID THE INTENTIONS OF THE TOWNHOMES AND THAT WAS SATISFACTORY. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TAKEN IN BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR OR ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

THAT'S FORTY EIGHT. AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE SEVENTEEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE SEVENTY NINE DRINKS ANOTHER RIGHT AWAY.

CREATE A NEW SUBCHAPTER TITLE OF CARS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK MS. SHERMAN. CUMIA, I'LL ASK OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, LARRY BRADLEY, TO COME UP.

OH, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT, OUR SCRIPT IS WRONG, THE APPLICANTS OVER THERE.

GOOD EVENING, BRENDA SUMMERELL, LIGHTS PROJECT MANAGER, THREE TO FIVE, ALHAMBRA CIRCLE, CORAL GABLES, WE ARE BRINGING FORTH A GOLF CART ORDINANCE AND ORDINATION WITH THE CITY.

AND SO THIS ORDINANCE PROVIDES NOT ONLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO FOR WHAT ELSE HAPPENS IN THE CITY.

SO THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS RAISED AT THE MEETING AND WE ALSO HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT IS ACTUALLY TODAY.

AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE RAISED I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

ONE OF THEM WAS IN THE SECTION A TWO RELATING TO MILES PER HOUR.

Y'ALL CURRENTLY ARE STATING THAT ON STREET LIMITS THAT ARE GREATER THAN THIRTY FIVE MILES PER HOUR, YOU CANNOT OPERATE UNLESS IT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.

AND WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS IF YOU WANT TO LOWER THAT TO THIRTY MILES PER HOUR AS IT RELATES TO THE WHOLE CITY, OUR PROJECT WILL ONLY HAVE ROADS AT TWENTY FIVE MILES PER HOUR.

SO IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT US.

BUT IF THERE'S THAT IS THE WISH OF THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO DO THAT, YOU CAN CERTAINLY REDUCE THAT. THAT IS A TWO.

MOVING ON TO A SEVEN RELATES TO MINORS, AND IT CURRENTLY STATES BY MINORS UNLESS ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT, AND THE GOLF CART IS EQUIPPED WITH AN OPERATIONAL HORN. I THINK ADDING BY MINORS, UNLESS ACCOMPANIED BY A LICENSED DRIVER, IS PROBABLY A BETTER WORDING.

AND ALSO THE STATE REQUIRES THAT THE DRIVER BE AT LEAST 14 TO OPERATE.

SO THE MINORS WOULD BE NOT 10 OR FIVE.

THEY DO HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 14, WHICH YOU COULD ADD IF YOU WANT TO TO THAT STATEMENT.

BUT I THINK UNLESS ACCOMPANIED BY A LICENSED DRIVER IS ACCEPTABLE, WHICH WAS RAISED BY THE Z AND UNDER B ONE TALKS ABOUT WITHIN GOLF CART COMMUNITIES AND EMERALD LAKES IS ASKING IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO BECOME A GOLF CART COMMUNITY.

THERE MAY BE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ENGINEERING MIGHT WANT TO ALSO COME UP WITH.

SO WE'RE HOPING IT DOES GET ALL SATISFIED IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO BRING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WHICH SATISFIES ALL OF OUR UTILITY ISSUES, ROAD ISSUES, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I WOULD JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE AS A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN REGULATIONS AND POLICIES AND HAVE A REGISTRATION PROCESS THAT ANYONE THAT WANTS A GOLF CART HAS TO COME IN, GET AN ANNUAL REGISTRATION.

THERE ARE POLICIES, RULES.

WE WILL DO INSPECTIONS.

AND I DID PROVIDE SOME BASIC POLICIES TO STAFF TODAY TO SEE HOW WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING THAT. SO THAT GIVES US A LOT MORE RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE WILL HAVE MAPS AND SIGNAGE AND IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE SIGNED OFF BY THOSE DRIVERS. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR RESTRICTIONS.

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AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN.

SOME IN FELIX. I MISHEARD THE QUESTION, BUT MORE SO COMMENT, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. I'M A GOLF CART OWNER MYSELF, I SHOULD SAY.

MY 13 YEAR OLD IS OK, BUT BUT I NEED A LICENSED DRIVER.

I HAVE TO BE 14 AS WELL.

BAYSIDE IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COMMENT AS FAR AS THE THE REGULATION, AS FAR AS FOR THEM TO REGISTER AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T BECOME OVER TO WHERE I DISCOURAGE PEOPLE MORE.

YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, NOT NECESSARILY AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE MONEY OR DO YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I WANTED TO BE YES.

THE IDEAL IS FOR THE SAFETY ASPECT AND PUT EMPHASIS ON ON CERTAIN ASPECTS.

ABSOLUTELY. AND IT WILL BE MANAGED BY EITHER THE HIGHWAY OR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. BUT FOR US, IT'S REALLY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INSPECT AND THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SAFETY.

THEY GET THE ROLLS, THEY SIGNED THE RULES, AND WE'LL BE REQUIRING INSURANCE LIABILITY.

AND AGAIN, ANNUAL INSPECTION TO ME IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE GOING ON, THEN THAT GIVES US A WAY TO RESTRICT TO WATCH AND WE'LL HAVE A PERMIT ON EACH CAR SO WE'LL KNOW IF THERE'S A PROBLEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S CAR SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHO TO GO TO.

SO FOR US, IT'S A VERY IT'S A WAY TO KEEP TRACK.

ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

I KNOW HERE IT'S A GOLF CART COMMUNITY.

HAVE WE LOOKED AT WHAT WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND IN TERMS OF THE WAY THEY IMPLEMENT THEIR PROCEDURES? WE HAVE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT COMMUNITIES ALL AROUND SOUTH OF THE U.S., ACTUALLY IN GEORGIA, THE VILLAGES.

I'M TRY TO WE TRY TO LOOK AT EACH DIFFERENT AREA, BABCOCK RANCH, AS TO WHO'S GOT THE BEST POLICIES AND WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE.

SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS AND OUR ATTORNEYS ARE WORKING ON DOCUMENTS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS TO BE PROVIDED ANOTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SO SOMEONE CAN COME IN THERE FROM THEIR HOME THROUGH THE ROADS TO GO TO EITHER THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THE VILLAGE CENTER OR TO ANY OF OUR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

SO HOPEFULLY PROVIDING MULTIUSE PASS, AS WE HAVE DONE AND WE'LL BE CONSTRUCTING ON ST.

JOHN SANDRICH PARKWAY, WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE FROM ONE AREA TO THE OTHER, BUT ONLY AT DESIGNATED CROSSWALKS AND AT SIGNALED AREAS.

OH. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL COUNCILWOMAN BAILEY? YEAH, ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE CURRENT SPEED AT ST.

JOHN'S? FORTY FIVE.

SO. MY ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS, I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ADDRESS IT IS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY, GO FOR IT, OK? YOU KNOW, YOUR STREET, YOUR RULES.

WHEN IT COMES TO CROSSING A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, THERE'S FOUR LANES AND A WIDE MEDIAN.

AT THESE INTERSECTIONS, I DON'T LIKE THAT.

SO CAN YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE SAFETY ASPECTS OF THAT? AND THEN SECOND OF ALL IS THE CONSIDERATIONS.

I KNOW YOU WANT TO CONNECT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS THIS ROADWAY.

I BELIEVE THE I THINK I WAS TALKING TO MS. SHERMAN ABOUT THIS, ACTUALLY, BUT I BELIEVE THE VILLAGES ACTUALLY HAVE A SOLUTION TO THAT AS OPPOSED TO ALLOWING YOU TO CROSS A CROSSWALK.

THEY BUILT A OVERARM LIKE A.

WHY COULDN'T WE JUST KEEP YOU OFF OF OUR STREETS AND YOU JUST GO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT? WELL, THEY DO ALSO HAVE CROSSWALKS, BUT THEY DO HAVE ONE OVERPASS BURAK DOES. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WHICH WE'RE DOING PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC TO ENGINEERS TO WORK ON APPROPRIATE CROSSINGS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS, MAJOR SIGNAGE, MAJOR COLORING THE PAVEMENT, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE DONE CORRECTLY. AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED ON THE ROADWAY.

THEY CAN ONLY GO ON THE ACTUALLY NORTHERN SIDE OF ST.

JOHNSON RIDGE PARKWAY ON THE MULTIUSE PATH AS WE THOUGHT WE WERE BUILDING UP LARGER TO 12 FEET IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

SO WE CAN SEPARATE WHERE THE PASKO CROSSING IT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE PROPERLY AND IT WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT HAS SIGNAGE AND IT HAS TO BE AT A SIGNALS INTERSECTION.

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SO THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ALL OF US.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO BE DONE RIGHT.

AND I'M SURE IT IT'S NOT TO THE STANDARD.

WE WON'T GET IT THROUGH YOUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT EITHER.

SO IT IS A CONCERN AND WE HAVE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY I KNOW IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE BASICS OF WHAT THE MINIMUMS ARE.

I JUST I HAVE HUGE SAFETY ASPECTS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CROSSING OUR CITY THOROUGHFARES.

ONE OTHER QUESTION. I HAD NO AND I DID NOT ADDRESS WITH WITH MS. SHERMAN STAFF. BUT HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT.

IT SAYS IN THERE, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED SPEED LIMITS, WHICH I AGREE, REDUCING AT 30.

BUT MY PROBLEM IS ST. JOHN'S IS NOT THIRTY MILES PER HOUR.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH LAUREN LORENZEN THE SPEED LIMITS, BECAUSE WITHIN YOUR COMMUTING IT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE. BUT THE EIGHTH BUT IT SAYS OR 85 PERCENTILE.

I MEAN, THE WAY I'M READING THIS AND WAY I'M INTERPRETING THIS AS YOU CAN MEET ONE OR THE OTHER. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I CAN'T THINK OF MANY TIMES WHERE THE 85 PERCENT IS LOWER THAN THE POSTED SPEED.

I'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE USING THE 85 PERCENTILE BECAUSE THAT'S REALITY OF WHAT DRIVERS ARE ACTUALLY DOING AS OPPOSED TO THE POST THE SPEED LIMIT.

BUT USUALLY THAT'S ALWAYS HIGHER.

MY MY EXPERIENCE. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AND WHY IT'S WRITTEN THAT WAY? WELL, I KNOW THAT THEY WERE INCORPORATING ALL THE STATE STATUTES IN HERE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS REALLY EXACTLY THE STATE STATUTES AND WHAT FEEDLOT REQUIRES.

SO I DIDN'T ACTUALLY ADD THAT LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED BY STAFF.

SO TO ME, YOU KNOW, WE MOST OF THIS RELATES TO WHETHER IT'S THE STATE ROAD, A LOCAL ROAD, AND THERE'S DIFFERENT DIFFERENT SIDE, DIFFERENT DISTANCES AND DIFFERENT MILES PER HOUR. SO I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE.

OK. I JUST TO BE RIGHT AND FRANK BRAGAN ANSWER TO MAYBE EVEN I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE MOST RECENT REPORT IS OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DOING ON THAT ROAD, OBVIOUSLY WILL SLOW DOWN AS DEVELOPMENT COMES.

AND THAT'S GOING TO NATURALLY CURRENT AND IN TRAFFIC.

REMEMBER WHERE WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD WITH FRANK ON THE LANDSCAPING, THE LIGHTING. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT DOING STRAIGHT PAST.

WE'RE DOING UNDULATING.

WE'RE DOING BIG TREES IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT HOPEFULLY ST.

JOHN'S TERESE PARKWAY. AND THAT MULTIUSE PARK WILL BE USED FOR NUMEROUS THINGS BESIDES BICYCLE TRAFFIC AND WALKING AND BIKING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, TO ME, KEEPING THEM OFF THE STREET IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

I REALLY HAVE NEVER LIKED HAVING A LOT OF MOVEMENT ON A MAJOR ROAD BIKE SCARE ME, YOU KNOW, MOTORCYCLES, EVERYTHING THAT.

SO TO ME, THAT'S FINE.

WE DID THAT MULTIUSE PATH.

AND FOR EMERALD, WE HAVE JUST WE'VE GOT OVER 10 MILES OF INTERNAL PATHWAYS.

SO BETWEEN SIDEWALKS AND MULTIUSE PATHS AND CONNECTIVITY TO ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT CONSERVATION AREAS AND MULTIUSE PAST, WE'RE HOPING THAT KEEPS PEOPLE IN.

AND THE AMOUNT OF GOLF CARTS THAT WOULD EVEN BE ON THAT MULTIUSE PATH TO ME ARE GOING TO BE MINOR, MINOR.

SO TO US, IT'S REALLY FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE MOVING BACK AND FORTH. AND OUR FIRST PHASE, WHICH WHICH ALL APPROVED PHASE TWO AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH A CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW NOW, IS EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE PARKWAY AND THEN OUR MAJOR ROADWAY TO NORTH. BUT ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE RETAIL AND THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND THE CRYSTAL LAGOON IS ALL IN THE SOUTH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LEARN VERY QUICKLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA, BECAUSE THAT WILL HAVE ALL USES WILL HAVE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, 40 FOOT LOTS, 40 FOOT LOTS AND LOTS TOWNHOUSES.

SO VERY AND APARTMENTS.

SO ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO COME IN UP FRONT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE VERY QUICKLY INTERNALLY TO WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. SO BECAUSE THIS IS ALL IN IT, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A GOLF CART COMMUNITY HERE.

SO THIS WILL BE SOMETHING WE ALL KIND OF LEARN TOGETHER AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE LICENSING AND THE.

REGISTRATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN PLACE, THAT GIVES US ALL THE ABILITY TO COME BACK AND ADJUST IF WE HAVE TO.

AND ONE, I APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE LAST QUESTION. YOU HAVE THE INTERCHANGE THERE.

YOU HAVE THE OVERPASS. THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT EVENTUALLY ON THE EAST SIDE.

OR IS THIS GOING TO ALLOW OR ARE WE GOING TO BE HAVING GOLF CARTS CROSSING THE INTERSECTION? GOOD QUESTION.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ABILITY.

THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THAT SECTION.

SO YOU CANNOT APPROVE THAT, AS I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR THAT IN THAT AREA.

NOW, IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE HAVE DONE A GOLF CART ACCESS EXHIBIT WHICH SHOWS ONLY THE PROJECTS ON ALL ON BOTH SIDES.

BUT WITH THE NOTE THAT WE ARE GOING TO APPLY THROUGH DOT TO TRY TO GET TO CROSS ONLY AGAIN ON THE MULTIUSE PATH, NOT ON THE ROAD.

SO THAT WILL BE OUR CHALLENGE TO GO THROUGH THAT.

IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT AND IT MAY HAVE SOME OTHER FORM OF PATHWAY THAT I HAVE TO

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SO BUT THAT IS SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT APPROVING BECAUSE YOU DON'T OWN THAT LAND.

AND SO TO BE CLEAR, WE CAN'T APPROVE.

WE CAN'T GRANT YOU ACCESS TO IT.

WELL, WE CAN PREVENT YOU ACCESS TO IT, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T DRIVE ON ST.

JOHN'S, THEN YOU CAN'T GO ACROSS THE INTERSTATE.

YOU CAN'T GET THERE. WELL, ACTUALLY, WE'RE GOING TO DROP RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHY.

WELL, WE'RE NOT DRIVING ON ST.

JOHN'S DRIVING.

DRIVING ON. ALL RIGHT. BUT SO YOU CAN'T DRIVE ON THE PAVEMENT.

WE'RE NOT ON THE PAVEMENT. ALL RIGHT.

BUT TO BE CLEAR, WE COULD BE CLEAR.

WE CANNOT GRANT YOU ACCESS, BUT WE COULD WE COULD PROHIBIT ACCESS.

YES, SIR. THERE'S WAYS.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

AND AGAIN, WE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL ALL WORK VERY DILIGENTLY TOGETHER IS SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE INTERSECTIONS. BUT WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE PROJECT.

SO EVERY CROSSWALK WE'VE COME UP WITH, DIFFERENT COLORS, DIFFERENT PAVEMENT DESIGNS, THE SIGNAGE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SIGNAGE.

AND OF COURSE, I MEAN, I THINK MAKING REGISTRATION A REQUIREMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR PROGRAM FOR RECREATIONAL AS OUR PROJECT HAS MORE RECREATION AREAS THAN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT AREAS.

SO I THINK WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

THANK YOU FOR INDULGING MY MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MADAM YATES.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS VENTURE.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GOLF CART COMMUNITY BRINGING THAT LEVEL OF RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO TO OUR CITY.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

AND ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SIDE OF THE FORWARD.

AND 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, I NOTICED THEY HAD ATVS AND TVS LIFTING IN THERE, SAYING THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA.

BUT I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IF ONE PERSON SEES ALL WHAT THEY'RE DRIVING THE GOLF CART DOWN THERE, I WANT TO TAKE MY ATV DOWN THERE, TOO.

SO WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THAT ARE CURRENTLY USING THAT AREA FOR BIG ATV RUN ROUND SITES ARE ALREADY THERE.

OH, THEY GET TO TAKE THEIR CARTS RIGHT TO THE TO THIS TO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START WANTING TO TAKE THEIR ATVS.

I SAW THAT SAYS NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS FOR.

BUT WE'RE ALREADY DRIVING THE ATVS AND THE TVS AND THE GOLF CARTS ALL OVER THE CITY OF PALM BAY. BUT NOW WE'VE MADE AN ORDINANCE AND I CAN I'M I THINK IT'S GREAT WE'RE PUTTING THE ORDINANCE. WE CAN PUT SOME KIND OF REGULATION IN THERE.

THAT'S GREAT. BUT I SEE THE PEOPLE THAT SAY, YOU GOT IT, I WANT TO DRIVE OVER THERE TO OFF MY ATV AND I'M JUST GOING TO COME DOWN THE CANAL AREA RIGHT INTO YOUR AREA AND DO IT BECAUSE THE GOLF CARTS ARE THERE.

I SEE THAT HAPPENING.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT BECAUSE I'M I'M ANTI ATV, BUT I SEE IT HAPPENING AND I'M TRYING TO SAY BE READY FOR IT.

IT'S ON ITS WAY. AND I SAW THAT BY THE WORDING OF IT.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT ATVS WOULD BE ALLOWED.

I WAS ONLY GOLF CARTS.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS ONE'S ELECTRIC AND ONE'S GAS POWERED.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO BUY GAS POWERED GOLF CARTS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE.

THE NEXT QUESTION WAS CROSSING OF THE ROAD WAS WHAT WAS YOUR PEDESTRIAN'S GOLF CARTS OR CROSSING ROAD? BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE PEDESTRIANS CROSSING THAT ROAD ALSO.

SO ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, IT'S GOING TO BE A HAZARDOUS AREA.

BUT WE HAVE THAT ALL OVER THE CITY.

WE'RE CROSSING BABCOCK, WE'RE PRICING ON PALM BAY ROAD AND AT LEAST THE GOLF CARTS.

IF THEY'VE GOT SOME GUIDANCE, THEY'LL TRY TO CROSS IN IT.

I'M WATCHING THE PEOPLE PAYING FOR JOGGERS GOING ACROSS THE ROADS OUT HERE TO GET THROUGH TRAFFIC THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THE LAST ITEM IS THIS GOLF CART ORDINANCE.

IS IT GOING TO BE CITY WIDE? IF IT'S GOING TO BE, IS THAT CITYWIDE OR WAS IT DESIGNATED AS DESIGNATED AREA BECAUSE OF ITS CITYWIDE IT ALL THE CURRENT RESIDENTS THAT ARE USED IN THEIR GOLF CARTS ON THE STREETS ARE NOW GOING TO BE FALLING UNDER A NEW CITY ORDINANCE.

AND IF IT HAS TO HAVE INSPECTIONS AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, WHERE ARE WE GOING? AND I COULDN'T SEE THAT WHEN I WAS READING THE WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THE PACKET.

THESE PACKETS ARE GETTING BIG NOW.

I'M STAYING UP FOR TWO DAYS READING, BUT I TRY TO STAY UP ON WHAT THEY ARE.

OK, SO THOSE ARE MY THREE QUESTIONS.

ATV, YOU TVS, PEDESTRIANS AND IS A CITYWIDE.

THANK YOU. YOU THAN ANYONE ELSE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SINEM.

THE FORWARD. WELL, I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, BUT YES, GO STEP FORWARD MR.

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ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SIDE STEP FORWARD, MR. ONE IS HERE. SO SHE JUST ASKED ME TO GO AHEAD AND RESPOND IF I COULD.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THE DEFINITIONS.

THEY IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ATV AND A GOLF CART, AND THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN THE DEFINITION. SO THE ATVS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

GOLF CARTS CANNOT EXCEED 20 MILES PER HOUR.

SO THAT'S ALSO IN THE DEFINITION.

SO IF SOMEONE HAS SOME GUESTS, A GOLF CART AND THEY'RE EXCEEDING 20 MILES PER HOUR, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO.

ALSO GOLF CART COMMUNITY.

WHILE THIS IS A CITY WIDE REGULATION, IT CAN'T BE APPROVED UNLESS IT'S APPROVED SPECIFICALLY BY THE CITY ENGINEER, APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL.

SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS, WE WILL COME BACK AND ASK TO BECOME A GOLF CART COMMUNITY.

SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP IN A MULTI-STEP PROCESS TO BECOME A GOLF CART COMMUNITY.

AND THEN BIG PICTURE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DETAILS TONIGHT.

THERE IS OVER FIVE PAGES OF THIS ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT CROSSING THE ROADS.

IT'S VERY SPECIFIC HOW IT'S ALLOWED, WHY IT'S ALLOWED, WHEN IT'S ALLOWED, WHEN IT'S NOT ALLOWED. SO IT IS VERY SPECIFIC.

WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH INTERSECTION DESIGNS, WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS, TIMING, EVERYTHING SPECIFIC TO ALLOW A GOLF CART IF THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED.

SO YOU WILL SEE THIS AGAIN, WILL GO THROUGH CITY STAFF WORKING WITH THEM.

AND I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY YEARS AND MONTHS OF DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD TO GET TO THIS POINT. BUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS STATE REQUIREMENTS OR A GOLF CART COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE'RE ASKING TO ACTUALLY MAKE THEM MORE RESTRICTIVE, TO BE SAFER AND MORE PROTECTIVE FOR PALM BAY FOR THE RESIDENTS, FOR OUR PROJECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT, IS A SAFER GOLF CART COMMUNITY CODE THAN WHAT THE STATE ALLOWS.

AND THEN, AS BRENDA IDENTIFIED EARLIER, WHETHER WE'RE ALLOWED TO CROSS OR NOT CROSS, THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO DOTTIE.

THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE APPLICATION PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE JUST ASKING TO CREATE A GOLF CART COMMUNITY AND THEY WILL COME BACK WITH A LOT MORE DETAIL AND A LOT MORE INFORMATION FOR COUNSEL TO SAY YAY OR NAY OR PUT ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ON THE FUTURE THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE 30 MILES OR SO MILES IN THE DRIVERS.

YEP. YES, YES, MA'AM, WE ALL STARTED SPEAKING AS FAR AS THE ADDING ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, AS FAR AS THE DRIVER SCINTILLATE, A GOLF CART RESTRICTIONS ARE PART OF THE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CODE.

AND EVERY TIME A MUNICIPALITY HAS DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD MORE RESTRICTIONS ON, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHO'S DRIVING, THE AG HAS OPINED THAT MUNICIPALITIES, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM ON THEIR ROADS.

BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CODE WAS TO MAKE THESE THINGS UNIFORM THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AND SO WHEN THE LEGISLATOR HAS SAID HOW THEY WANT SOMETHING DONE, THEY'VE INTERPRETED THAT TO BE A PROHIBITION OR, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ADD MORE RESTRICTIONS. AND THAT'S COME WITH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MANDATE INSPECTIONS.

THEY HAVE TO BE VOLUNTARY, TRIED TO MANDATE THEY HIGHER A RESTRICTION AND ANYTHING THAT IF THE LEGISLATOR SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE 14, THAT'S IT.

IF WE DECIDE TO TRY TO ADD SOMETHING MORE IS LIKELY GOING TO BE STRUCK DOWN BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST THE WHOLE NATURE OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC AND.

COPY THAT. MA'AM, I APPRECIATE YOUR OPINION ON THAT.

SO. ALSO LOOKING FOR EMOTION, MOST OF THE PROOF, IT'S TWENTY, TWENTY ONE DASH, FORTY EIGHT FIRST READING. SO I CAN I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, MAN. REAL QUICK, I THINK I'VE MADE IT CLEAR MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE A CONCERN FOR CROSSING. AND WHILE WHEN I SEE THIS LEAD TO HIS CROSSING 95 AS WELL, HUGE PET PEEVE OF MINE. I DON'T WANT TO BE THAT DRIVER.

YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF TEENAGE KIDS AND YOU YOU CAN'T TELL IF THEY'RE 13 OR 14 OR 15 OFFICERS NOT GOING TO GET THEIR I.D.

THEY DON'T HAVE AN ID. OK, SO.

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NOT OK WITH THEM CROSSING NOW WE'RE HAVING KIDS DRIVING VEHICLES ACROSS BUSY INTERSECTIONS. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE DRIVER TO ACCIDENTALLY HITS ONE OF THESE AND SERIOUSLY INJURES THEM. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH I DON'T THINK THAT THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST IS WORTH THAT RISK.

IN THIS CASE. WHENEVER THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS, SUCH AS DOING A PASS OVER OVER ST.

JOHN'S, WOULD IT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COSTLY? ABSOLUTELY WAS PROBABLY MORE COSTLY THAN PUTTING THE MARKS ON.

PAVEMENT'S ALREADY PUT DOWN THAT WE WE'VE ALREADY YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY BUILT.

I'M SURE IT IS, BUT I THINK IT'D BE A SAFER AND IT SHOULD BE REASONABLE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF SUCH A LARGE DEVELOPMENT.

I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT THAT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

IF WE IF WE APPROVE IT THE WAY IT IS, THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY TO BE A COMMUNITY, THEY APPLY TO BE A COMMUNITY, YOU'RE IN IT TO HIM, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO CROSS AS THEY PLEASE. I DON'T THINK I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE.

AND YOU CAN HAVE STAFF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIMIT THAT AT THE LATER DATE AS WELL.

BUT EITHER WAY, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A WE WILL BE LIMITED AS WELL, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T LIMIT JUST FOR A PARTICULAR ONE, I WOULD LIMIT FOR A MALL.

SO I WOULDN'T DO THAT IN THE FUTURE ON A SPECIFIC APPLICATION.

I'M GOING TO DO IT ON THE GENERAL APPLICATION OF LAW TODAY.

WELL, I'VE SEEN AND TO THAT ARGUMENT, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IN VĚRA AS AN EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CONFINED TO THE AREA, THEY'RE USING THEM. WOW.

I'VE ALMOST HAD A KID UP THERE.

THAT'S WHY IT'S A PET PEEVE OF MINE.

AND IF I IF THEY'RE GOOFING OFF, YOU HAVE EVEN IF IT WAS A LICENSE.

NO, YOU SAY A LICENSED DRIVER, 16, 16, A 14 YEAR OLD AND 12 YEAR OLD.

YOU KNOW, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THEY MIGHT BE FOCUSED LIKE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET HIT, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT ALL IT TAKES IS ONE LITTLE DISTRACTION.

AND WE KNOW AS ADULTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SO. THEN THEIR COMMUNITY DO WHAT THEY WANT.

ADAM SMITH, YOU WERE GOING TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING.

WELL, MR. BAILEY STATE IS A POSITION, CERTAINLY IF COUNCIL WANTED TO DO IT CITYWIDE, THE TIME TO DO IT WOULD BE IN THIS ORDINANCE.

IF COUNCIL WERE LOOKING FOR A LIMITATION WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, COUNCIL COULD ADDRESS THAT. LAND COUNCIL VOTED UPON WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO BE A GOLF CART COMMUNITY. WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION OF A GOLF CART COMMUNITY WOULD ALSO BE LAID OUT.

WHAT PAST COUNCIL IS APPROVING WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION? SO IT IS. WHOLESALE WITHIN THE CITY, IT SHOULD BE DONE AT THIS ORDINANCE IF IS MORE SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT, THAT COULD BE DONE WITHIN A COMMUNITY DESIGNATION.

SO WHEN IT COMES BACK, WHICH IS JUST IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, JUST FOR THIS PROJECT.

YES. WHEN IT COMES BACK.

BUT IF YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO APPLY FOR ANY GOLF PARK COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THEN THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE IN THIS ORDINANCE SO WE CAN BYPASS THIS IS A IN ORDER TO GET THE B, WE NEED TO APPROVE A.

THAT ACCURATE, RIGHT, ACE SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE AMENDABLE TO ALLOWING GOLF CARTS ON OUR ROADS, SO LONG AS YOU'RE A GOLF CART COMMUNITY AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND THEY GET THE DESIGNATION OF GOLF CART COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE WHEREAS IT'S GOING TO REFLECT THAT THE CITY ENGINEER HAS LOOKED AT WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, THAT IT IS SAFE.

THE CITY MANAGER IS ON BOARD, IS GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION INCORPORATED AS FAR AS WHETHER THE COUNCIL SHOULD DESIGNATE THEM AS A GOLF CART COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ARE WE ALL CLEAR ON THAT? WE GOT TO GET TO IN ORDER TO GET TO BE FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO BE A GOLF COMMUNITY.

FIRST, WE GOT TO PROVE THIS AND THEN WE COULD HONE IN ON THOSE OTHER RESTRICTIONS.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I'M SAYING I GLOBALLY REJECT THE IDEA OF ANY APPLICANT FOR FOR A GOLF CART COMMUNITY TO TRAVERSE OUR CITY ROADS BECAUSE WE BECAUSE OF SAFETY, WE COULD WE COULD GO AND SAY EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION, RESTRICTED, RESTRICTED, RESTRICTED.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON EVERY SINGLE SINGLE APPLICATION, THE PROPER, AS MS. SMITH JUST SAID, THE PROPER WAY TO APPLY THAT IS TO DO IT NOW IN THE GENERAL LAW, NOT IN THE SPECIFIC APPLICATIONS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THAT IS THE RULE AND IT NEEDS TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO WHEN THEY APPLY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW AT THAT TIME THEY APPLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH OUR EXPECTATIONS.

THEY DO NOT TRAVERSE ACROSS OUR ROAD.

I MEAN, COUNCILMAN COUNCIL IS GOOD FOR MOVING FORWARD, I'M NOT TRYING TO I'M NOT TRYING TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I DO HOPE THAT MY POINTS AT LEAST CLEAR ON IT.

YOU KNOW. NOW, WHAT I'M SAYING, IF YOU RESTRICTED IN THIS ORDINANCE, AS COUNCILMAN BAILEY

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WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THEIR ENGINEER SAYS.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO RESTRICT JUST FOR THEIR PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THEN YOU COULD PASS THIS THINGS.

BUT IF YOU THINK THERE ISN'T A SINGLE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO COME FORTH BEFORE COUNCIL WHERE YOU THINK THAT IS, YOU KNOW, CROSSING OUR STREET, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY ENGINEER MAY SAY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR CITY ENGINEER MAY, YOU SAY THAT THERE'S JUST IS BOTTOM LINE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT, THEN YOU WOULD DO IT IN THIS ORDINANCE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE IF WE DON'T WANT THEM CROSSING A BIG THOROUGHFARE, A BIG CORRIDOR, WE NEED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF IF THERE IS NO SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN IMAGINE WHERE YOU WOULD WANT THIS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AT ALL, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE OK IN CERTAIN PARTS OF PALM BAY, BUT YOU CERTAIN PROJECTS WE MAY NOT BE AMENDABLE TO, THEN YOU LEAVE IT HERE.

AND THEN WHEN THOSE PROJECTS COME FORTH, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN GO FORTH UNLESS YOU GIVE THEM A GOLF CART COMMUNITY DESIGNATION.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ENGINEER WHO'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS SAFE, BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T SAFE, IF THIS I WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS A LOUSY PLAN.

IT'S I DON'T SUPPORT IT.

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THE TIME, MONEY AND EXPENSE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

SO TYPICALLY BUT IT DOES COME FORWARD.

IT'S RECEIVED THE LEASE APPROVAL OF OUR ENGINEER BECAUSE IF HE DIDN'T APPROVE IT, THEY'D BE WORKING IT, REWORKING IT UNTIL HE DID APPROVE IT.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT LOGISTICALLY, IT MAKES SENSE AND IT'S TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS.

IF IT'S SPECIFIC, IF IT'S ESSENTIALLY IF THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER IT, MAKE THE CHANGE HERE.

IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT ON A CASE BY CASE, A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS, LEAVE THIS AS IT IS. AND YOU WOULD CONSIDER IT AT THE GOLF CART COMMUNITY DESIGNATION.

YOU KNOW, I'M GOOD WITH YOU ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. CASE BY CASE, WE'RE ABLE TO VIEW IT, ENGINEER GETS TO WEIGH IN AND THEN WE WE GET TO HAVE THAT FINAL SAY OR COUNSEL GETS TO THAT FINAL SAY.

BUT IN REFERENCE TO WHAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY SAYING IN VEERA AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU ALMOST HAD A NEAR MISS ON THAT, BUT.

NOT EVERYBODY FOLLOWS THE RULES AND THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

SO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OF THESE HEADWAYS OR GOLF CART WEIGHS IN OVERPASSES IS SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BUILD THAT COMMUNITY TO BE A STAPLE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE NATION. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

I DO AGREE THAT. IT'S DIFFICULT TO REGULATE REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO.

NOW IT'S UP TO THE WILL OF THE PERSON, RIGHT? IT'S SOMETIMES THAT'S PART OF THE FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE.

SO BUT I'M GOOD.

I'VE GOT A MOTION AND I'VE GOT A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR BY ANY OPPOSE, ANY PASSES FOR ONE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

RESOLUTION TWENTY, TWENTY ONE, THAT'S THIRTY FOR A RESOLUTION, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GETTING ADDITIONAL USE FOR RETAIL, AUTOMOTIVE, GAS, FIELD SALES AND H.S. HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT DIXIE HIGHWAY IN THE VICINITY BETWEEN APOSTILLE AVENUE AND DEER RUN AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HERE IN GRINDINGLY USE AS A ADDITIONAL USE PROVIDED FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THINK, THANK THE APPLICANT FOR BEING JOHNNY ON THE SPOT. THANKS FOR HAVING ME AND APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

I REALLY ENJOYED THIS MEETING SO FAR.

MY NAME IS BRAD KENYON.

I'M ONE THREE NINE FIVE HIGHWAY AWAY AND A SATELLITE BEACH.

AND WE HAVE PALM BAY MARINA.

WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN A 2000 GALLON FUEL TANK.

THERE WAS A TANK THERE PRIOR TO US BUYING IT, AND IT REACHED ITS LIFESPAN AND WAS REMOVED PROPERLY, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN A SMALL TANK, JUST A SERVICE AREA.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

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THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF ARE AS FOLLOWS.

THE INSTALLATION AND USE OF THE TANK HAVE PROTECTIVE BOLLARDS AROUND THE TANK INSTALLATION, HAVE A LEAK DETECTION SYSTEM.

THE APPLICANT USE A DOUBLE WALL TANK, HOURS OF OPERATION LIMITED TO EIGHT, THIRTY A.M.

TO FIVE P.M. I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

AND APPLICABLE PERMIT FROM BREVARD COUNTY NATURAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AND CITY SITE PLAN APPROVAL. AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARING, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HOURS OF THE TANK AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT MARINAS NORMALLY OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE HOURS OF EIGHT THIRTY TO FOUR THIRTY.

SINCE IT WAS EXPLAINED AT THE P AND Z THAT THIS WOULD BE A MANNED FACILITY.

THIS WOULD NOT BE PUMP YOUR OWN GAS.

I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT FURTHER, THAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO SO, HE HAD RECOMMENDED THAT WE EXPAND THE HOURS.

SOME PEOPLE WHO GO BOATING WANT TO GO EARLY, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO STAFF THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PUMP YOUR OWN GAS.

SO THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM PNC, WHICH YOU MAY WANT TO DISCUSS WITH THE APPLICANT.

IF THE HOURS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED ARE TO BE EXPANDED, THEN THE APPLICANT, IF HE'S GOING TO HAVE IT AS A MANNED FACILITY, WOULD HAVE TO ALSO SUPPORT THAT FOR THOSE EXPANDED HOURS. AND SINCE HE WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE HEARING, ONLY THE TANK INSTALLER, WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

SO AT THAT POINT, I THINK YOU SHOULD ENGAGE HIM WITH THAT DISCUSSION, IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNSEL TO EXPAND THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

THANK YOU, LIKE YOU. SO IT IS, MAN, IT'S NOT SELF-SERVICE, ARE OURS CURRENTLY THAT WE RUN ARE EIGHT, 30 TO FIVE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY WE OPEN AT SIX THIRTY BECAUSE WE HAVE EARLY MORNING FISHERMAN. WEEKEND OFF AND THEY WANT TO GO OUT EARLY, IT WILL BE MEANT IT WILL BE MANDALS EXTRA HOURS OF OPERATION.

SO YOU GO SIX THIRTY TO FIVE THIRTY ON SATURDAY.

YES. BUT HE SAID, ADDING SOMETHING FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, WE WE OPEN UP TO FIVE ARMY SIX THIRTY TO FIVE THIRTY.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

AND IT IS MAN, IT IS MAN, IT'S A DOUBLE WALLED TANK.

I HAVE THE EXPERT HERE THAT INSTALLS IT.

IT'S INSURED, IT'S ALL TO SPEC.

AH, IT'S GOT BALLADS, ALL THAT STUFF.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN BAILEY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SO EXPANDING IT, SO OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD WANT IT TO BE EXPANDED TO YOUR YOUR HOURS OF USING CURRENTLY, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND DO YOU THINK THAT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT US BEING VERY SPECIFIC IN THESE TIMES OF OPERATION AND THERE BEING SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE WHERE MAYBE YOU END UP OPENING EARLIER ON THOSE OTHER DAYS DURING THE WEEK, IS DO YOU SEE THIS BEING I MEAN, I'D RATHER NOT HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY TIME WE'VE EVER DONE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS AS WE THEY HAVE THE CAPTAINS FOR CLEAN WATER.

THEY HAVE THE SKIFF CHALLENGE.

THEY RAISE THE BOAT AROUND THE WHOLE STATE.

AND WE DONATED FUEL WHEN WE MET HIM THERE LIKE MIDNIGHT ONE TIME FOR THAT EVENT JUST BUT LAST YEAR, THEY DIDN'T USE US.

THEY DID THAT YEAR PRIOR.

BUT THAT'S WE DON'T REALLY SEE US CHANGING OUR HOURS, HONESTLY.

VERY GOOD. AND IF WE JUST SAID THAT YOU CAN USE IT ANY TIME, AS LONG AS IT'S MANNED, WOULD THAT BE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YES. WELL, NOW YOU DO TAKE THE MIDNIGHT HOUR.

IF THERE WAS AN EVENT SO SITUATIONAL, MAYBE A TOURNAMENT OR AN EVENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IF WE OFFERED IT.

I'M A FELIX BEING SO CLOSE TO THE WATER, TO THE CREEK.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MEASURE WATER YOU GUYS ARE DOING OR THE PLACE TO BE SURE IN CASE OF ANY LEAKAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WHAT ARE YOU GUYS HAVE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S IT'S A DOUBLE WALLED TANK. IT'S. PRETTY SOLID TANK, AND WE DO HAVE OUR OWN SPILL CONTROL, IF THERE SHOULD BE A SPILL PRIOR TO US BUYING THE MARINA, THEY HAD REMOVED THE TANK AND THEY WERE HAVING PEOPLE FILL THEIR BOATS WITH FIVE GALLON CANS AND THEY SPILLED IT ALL THE TIME.

SOME BOATS, IT'S EASY.

SOME BOATS, IT'S HARD, AND OUR INSURANCE COMPANY DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH FINES FROM THE COAST GUARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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AND WE JUST HAVE THE SMALL TANK THAT WE WE ONLY CAN SERVICE OUR MARINA CUSTOMERS AND WE HAVE TO TURN AWAY ANYBODY WHO'S NOT A MARINA CUSTOMER AND THEY KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE DISCRIMINATING OR SOMETHING, BUT.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL METERED ACT LIKE.

DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE METERS, IT CHECKS IT IN THAT TYPE OF THING.

NEED ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN.

OF THE APPLICANT, I SEE THE PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING. OH.

HE PROVIDED, IF NECESSARY, FOR SAFETY, WE HAVE A LIGHT THERE.

BUT LIKE I SAY, WE DON'T, RIGHT, OTHER THAN THAT, ONE TIME WE'RE NOT.

WELL, GUESS IT'S SIX AND 30 IN THE MORNING.

IT CAN BE DARK. YEAH.

NOW. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE GOOD WITH EIGHT, 30 TO FIVE, 30, UNLESS IT'S FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, YOU START AT ZERO SIX THIRTY TILL SEVENTEEN, THIRTY OR THIRTY.

THE POINT COUNCILMAN BAILEY MADE.

WHENEVER THERE'S A TOURNAMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU WOULD ACCOMMODATE.

SO NOT HAVING A RESTRICTION THAT YOU CAN OPERATE FROM, FROM THE TIME, AS INDICATED, WOULD REALLY ASSIST YOU.

IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN ANY COMMOTION OR IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION? ALSO TO PROVE CASEY, UTAH'S 18 DEATHS, 20, 20, ONE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF'S CONDITIONS, TO INCLUDE OUR OPERATIONS AS LONG AS IT'S BEING MANNED.

YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LIKE GIVING HIM THAT OPTION BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO MAN, IT WILL BE MANNED, SO NOT RESTRICTING HIM BECAUSE WE GIVE HIM WE'RE PUTTING THE HANDCUFFS ON HIM.

HE'LL BE ABLE TO.

I ALREADY CLOSED IT, SIR.

I ALREADY CLOSED IT. I DIDN'T THINK I WAS SO STRICT BECAUSE I DIDN'T RESTRICT TO THIS HOUR, TO THAT HOUR. I JUST SAID AS LONG AS THIS MAN.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU SAID I WAS ABOUT.

OH, NO, NO, NO, NO. I WAS JUST SAYING, AS LONG AS YOU WORK.

YEAH, I MS. AND YOU REPEAT IT, SIR.

I GOT THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

KACIE YOU THERE'S EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY TWENTY ONCE SUBJECT TO STAFF'S CONDITIONS TO INCLUDE HOURS OF OPERATIONS TO BE ACCORDING TO AS THIS MAN.

SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR.

SO THAT MEANS THAT IF HE NEEDS TO OPERATE AT MIDNIGHT FOR THAT TOURNAMENT, HE'LL BE ALLOWED. WE'RE BASICALLY REPLACING THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND PANSY'S RECOMMENDATION FOR OUR HOURS OF OPERATION, EVERYBODY, FOR THE RECORD, TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, I.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, CONGRATULATIONS.

ITEM SIX.

COUNCILMAN. YES, MAYOR, THIS IS A SERIOUS APPLICATION.

TYPICALLY. AT THE APPLICANT I SPEAK NOW, SOMETIMES THE WE DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER OR TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK.

OK, I WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE THE APPLICANT SAY THIS CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SAID WE NEED THE EUROZONE ADDRESS FOR LYNN.

NOTICE OF PALM BAY.

I REQUESTED FOR VILLON.

THE APOSTILLE.

BUT I NEED IT FOR.

INTO 25 FEET, WE ARE.

SAID MARK. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

YOU KNOW, NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY MR.

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I CAN A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

ALL IN FAVOR, HIGH TAXES OR OR ZERO, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

WHEN I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANTS TO STATE THEIR CASE.

IT'S THE RIVER. WHEN CAROL AND THE CONTRACTOR I MEET HERE FOR THE HOMEOWNER, HIS SON, HE HAD SURGERY RECENTLY, SO I CAN JUST ASK HIM FOR THREE FEET BARYONS AND WHEN I I BACK.

ON A SCREEN PORCH. I SAID.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE COUNCILMAN? BUT MADAM SHERMAN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I HAVE A CLEAN BILL.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

WHY WASN'T THIS ADMINISTRATIVELY DONE? SO SMALL FOR SUCH A BIG APOLOGIZE, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER TO ME, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO COME HERE, I'M THINKING.

YEAH, THE AUDIENCE, THE WAY IT READS, IS FOR EXISTING STRUCTURES WE CAN GO FOR IF IT WAS A PREEXISTING CONDITION, WE WOULD GO THAT 20 PERCENT.

BUT SINCE HE'S ADDING ONTO IT AND IT'S MORE THAN 12 INCHES, WE'VE SAID IT'S TO COME FOR A FULL VARIANT BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

IT WASN'T IT SHOULDN'T BE 20 PERCENT OF THE 25 FEET.

ONLY IF IT WAS PREEXISTING BECAUSE IT SAYS AN EXISTING CONDITION.

SO HE'S BUILDING HE'S ADDING ON TO HE'S BUILDING A NEW ADDITION ONTO THE ONTO THE STRUCTURE. OK, WE NEED TO WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT THING, BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT WHENEVER WE WENT THROUGH THAT, IT'S MY INTENT WAS THAT THIS RIGHT HERE, YOU HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE OFFICE, LESKIE.

YOU MEAN YOU WOULD NEVER EVEN HAD TO COME HERE? SO THAT I APOLOGIZE.

OK, SO THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE JUST FOR STAFF TO.

THANK YOU. A CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY HECTOR RIVERA FOR VARIOUS PROPOSED SCREEN PORCH TO ENCROACH THREE FEET INTO THE 25 FOOT RIVER BUILDING SETBACK ESTABLISHED BY SECTION ONE EIGHT FIVE POINT ZERO THREE FOUR F 70 PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES POINT TO THREE ACRES.

WE'D ASK TWENTY TO 20 21.

AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN BAILEY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WHEN I CALL ALL IT ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

WHEN I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD.

IT'S GETTING LATE, SIR. YES, SIR, I COULD VERY QUICKLY GO RENALDO'S, NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT TWENTY TWO NINETY FIVE, SOUTH HIAWASSEE ROAD, ORLANDO, FLORIDA, WITH TWO EIGHT THREE FIVE. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THIS IS THE LAST PIECE THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET STAFF APPROVAL FOR SITE PLAN AND START WORKING ON THE COMMERCIAL PORTION.

QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT, COUNCILMAN.

WE HAVE A SPEAKER.

BILL BURTON. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS AGAIN.

WOOLVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, AS I ADDRESSED EARLIER, SINCE THIS IS BAYFRONT MIXED USE AREA, IT KIND OF COINCIDES WITH THE SAME WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING PREVIOUSLY AND WHERE IT WAS A.

MAXIMUM EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT RESIDENTIAL.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AS A MINIMUM MAXIMUM BECAUSE WE HAD THAT CONFLICT SINCE THIS PORTION IS SUPPOSEDLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S GREAT. IT DOESN'T TURN OUT TO BE THE COMMERCIAL.

HOW DO WE KNOW? YES, TO THIS POINT IS JUST THE LOTTING IS THE FOOTPRINT ON THE LAND, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE CHANCE WHERE A POTENTIAL OF THE COMMERCIAL DISAPPEARS.

THAT'S THAT WAS THE WHOLE THING OF THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE THING THAT WE'D HAVE COMMERCIAL WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL, WE SAW THE RESIDENTIAL COME IN, BUT AS OF YET, WE HAVE YET TO SEE

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I MEAN, ZERO IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT CHANGED THE ZONING.

WE MADE UP THIS CATEGORY, BUT WE HAVE SEEN USAGE OF COMMERCIAL AND THAT NEW ZONING.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO.

STAY OUT THERE. THAT'S THEIR ITEM NUMBER TWO WITH THAT ONE WAS THE FACT THAT.

UNDER STORM WATER TREATMENT.

THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NORTH SHORE CITY OF PALM BAY DID A BIG CONTRIBUTION TO THE STORM, WATER MANAGEMENT FOR THIS AREA, FOR THEIR STORM AFTER STORM WATER, AND BY SETTING UP THE ATMOSPHERE TO WHERE IT COULD RUN INTO THE FCC FOR THE RAILROAD TRACKS, FOR THEIR DISPLACEMENT OF THEIR WATER, WHICH WAS A BIG.

BIG DEAL AT THE TIME BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS PAYING SIGNIFICANT STORM WATER IMPACT FEES AND. HOW I WANT TO SAY THIS POLITICALLY CORRECTLY, IT WAS A SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT ONE MORE TIME DUE IN THEIR STORMWATER SETUP.

I KNOW BILL BOUTON'S THE OLD OLD MAN IN PALM BAY, BUT I DO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE THINGS WHEN THEY HAPPEN. SET THE PRECEDENCE I DON'T WANT TO LET BECAUSE WE DREW IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER. WE LOSE OUR.

AXING REVENUE AS IT COULD HAPPEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

SO THE FOLKS JUST.

FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A.

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALREADY EXECUTED MANDATES US TO BUILD COMMERCIAL.

WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, OUR LAST ADDRESS, ME BROTHER, SINCE OUR LAST CITY MEETING, WE ALSO HAVE THE AGREEMENT FOR OUR SURETY BOND THAT GUARANTEES THAT WE DO BUILD THE THE COMMERCIAL PORTION.

AS FOR THE STORM WATER, WE HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE WORK OR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AS WELL AS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS ESSENTIAL STORMWATER COLLECTION THAT INCLUDES A BOLDON GOLD SYSTEM, ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE CITY WHERE IT ACTUALLY TREATS THE WATER BEFORE IT IS CONVEYED AND DISTRIBUTED DOWNSTREAM.

WE'VE ALSO DONE SIGNIFICANT WORK ALONG THE FEC RIGHT AWAY, CREATING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AND DISTRIBUTION OF STORMWATER.

WE'VE HELPED THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE SHIRE WITH THEIR STORMWATER ISSUES.

WE'VE ALSO TAKEN CARE OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH OUR CONNELLAN.

WE HAVE REALLY HAVE DONE WHAT WE HAD TO DO AND WILL DO WITH.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF OR THE APPLICANT COUNCILMAN.

THE ONLY THING WE JUST WANT TO ADD FOR THE RECORD IS THAT STAFF SUPPORTS THIS JUST WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

OF SUPPORT, I WILL SAY, I'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY OUT THERE.

IT TRULY IS.

AND AND YOU GUYS HAVE BOUGHT UP THE COMMUNITY WITH WHAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED.

I WANT TO THANK YOU TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE OUT THERE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK FOR A MOTION WE SHOULD IMPROVE CASE DASH TO DASH.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE, SUBJECT TO THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW SLASH APPROVAL PROCESS, INCLUDING STAFF REPORT COMMENTS.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL? YEAH, WICKMAYER BAILEY AS THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE NOTED, THIS IS NOW ESSENTIALLY, ESSENTIALLY THE LAST TIME THE COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STOP A, YOU KNOW, HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE, VERY BAD DEAL THAT WAS PASSED BY PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND THAT WAS AMENDED RECENTLY BY THIS COUNCIL TO BE EVEN WORSE IN MY ANALYSIS.

SO I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO STOP NOW.

I THINK IT WAS THREE TWO LAST TIME, MAYOR, THE MAYOR.

SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL STILL HAS TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

BUT THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE COULD STOP IT.

I'D HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS DIVISION, ASSUMING THAT WE HAD BETTER TERMS ON THE DEVELOPMENT DEAL THAT'S TIED TO IT.

BUT SINCE THIS IS TIED TO THE DEVELOPMENT DEAL, WHICH I WHOLEHEARTEDLY OPPOSE, THERE'S NO WAY I CAN SUPPORT THIS NINE.

IS NOT SUPPORTING THIS, JUST TAKES IT BACK.

WE HAVE NO CONTROL, THIS WAS PASSED ALREADY.

THIS IS JUST STAFF'S WAY OF OF PUTTING THINGS IN ORDER SO THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD.

THE IMPORTANT VOTE WAS, I AGREE, THE LAST TIME THAT THEY CAME THROUGH.

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BUT EITHER WAY, I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY.

I MEAN, HAVING AN EVENT LIKE ZAMBONIS SPECIFICALLY, IT SEEMS TO ME THIS SHOULD HAVE CAME BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT, BUT IT DIDN'T COME TO US THAT WAY.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO PROBLEM SEPARATING THEM FOR TERMS OF WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING FOR FINANCING, THAT'S FINE.

BUT AS FAR AS SEPARATING FOR TERMS OF CHANGING AGREEMENTS TO OUR DETRIMENT, TO THE CITY'S DETRIMENT, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET, COMMERCIAL REDUCTION AND COMMERCIAL IS STILL NO GUARANTEES OF WHAT TYPES OF JOBS.

THAT'S THE SAME THING. I FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WE SHOULD HAVE A JOBS REQUIREMENT IF WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS NAZEER PERIOD.

AND SO TAKING A BAD NEGATIVE WAS A HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE, VERY BAD DEAL.

AND THEN DOING ANYTHING TO MAKE IT WORSE.

YES, JUST NOW IT'S WHAT DOESN'T MATTER IS VERY BAD.

AND WE CAN SAY THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT.

BUT I GET IT BAD.

MY VOTE IS GOING TO BE NO. YEAH.

AND I COPY YOU ON THAT, SIR.

BUT FOR YOU TO SAY THAT IT'S GETTING WORSE, THE PREVIOUS VOTE WAS THE TELLTALE SIGN.

RIGHT NOW, THIS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO TO HAVE THEM MOVE FORWARD.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

SO I DO HAVE A MOTION.

OH, ARE WE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, I AND ANY OPPOSE.

AS IS FOUR TO ONE.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCILMAN REPORT, I'D LIKE TO TAKE.

A RECESS AND I'LL BE BACK.

OK, SO WE'RE BACK.

WE'RE UNDER COUNCIL REPORTS AND WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX.

[COUNCIL REPORTS]

THE NIGHT THAT A COUNCILMAN FELIX, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

OH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

TWO THINGS, ONE, WE NOTED EARLIER, WE'VE NOTED THROUGHOUT THE EVENING BILLS BEING SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, ONE THAT I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT I'M VERY PERSONALLY EXCITED ABOUT, I BELIEVE ACTUALLY CITIES PROBABLY WAS OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT I'M NOT ALWAYS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.

BUT WE HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I BELIEVE IT TOOK EFFECT TODAY AS WELL, LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THE ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED STATEWIDE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW, I GUESS, EXPRESS MY PUBLIC APPRECIATION.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET OUR POLICY TO MORE REFLECT SUCH A LAW.

AND NOW THE GOVERNOR HAS DONE IT FOR ME.

SO SOMETIMES SOMETIMES PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE AGENCY ARE MY BEST ALLIES.

BUT THAT'S HOW THINGS HAPPEN.

EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING'S ORGANIC AND FLUID.

I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.

AND THAT'S TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A WE HAVE THAT MEETING ON AUGUST 5TH.

I HAVE ACCEPTED A JOB THAT'S OUT OF STATE AND AUGUST 5TH WILL LIKELY BE MY LAST.

IT WILL BE MY LAST MEETING.

AND THAT'S WHEN I ANNOUNCE THAT THEY'RE.

AS COUNCIL MEETING, YOU'RE RESIGNING YOUR WHILE I'LL DO THE OFFICIAL STUFF WITH PATRICIA TERESE AS APPROPRIATE, BUT I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR STAFF AND SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE. HOW ABOUT THAT BY THIS POINT, BUT IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HEADS UP.

WELL, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

IT DOES COME AS A SURPRISE NOT ONLY TO STAFF, BUT TO US ON COUNCIL.

VERY INTERESTING.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING IT AND MAKING IT PUBLIC HERE.

YOU'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB FOR OUR CITY.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR JOB.

YEAH, I'M TRYING WITH COREY AND TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THERE'S THERE'S A REASON FOR THESE THINGS AND THERE'S THERE IS THE FAMILY, NO FAMILY AND GOD FIRST.

RIGHT. IT'S STILL VERY HARD.

I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO GET THE WORDS OUT TONIGHT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT YOUR DAD AND I BELIEVE THEM RUNNING THROUGH THE RACE.

AND I KNOW I KEEP STAFF STAFF BUSY AND ASK QUESTIONS.

AND I DO IT. I MEAN, THAT'S MY HEART.

THAT'S ME CARING ABOUT THIS CITY.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARD, ALTHOUGH I'M EXCITED.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD LEAVING. I KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE HARD LEAVING THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE. I'VE DEDICATED SEVEN YEARS.

A GOOD NO GOOD PORTION OF MY LIFE TO THE CITY HAS BEEN WHERE MOST OF MY ADULTHOOD HAS

[04:05:03]

AND I'M JUST YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU I'M REALLY HONORED.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO BE VERY LONG.

I ACTUALLY WANTED TO BE. THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DONE.

BUT YOU KIND OF ELICIT MORE RESPONSE FROM ME, RIGHT? THE SECOND MAYOR. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY TOUGH AND.

BUT IT'S BEEN A LOT OF PRAYER AND INQUIRIES AND, OF COURSE, EXCITED AND I APPRECIATE HER SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT, BUT I'LL HAVE MORE TIME PROBABLY TO MAYBE SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE.

IT DOES TAKE A SENSE SURPRISE, I WILL SAY THIS IN AN HONOR SERVING WITH YOU, WHICH IS THAT I'VE HAD. YOU HAVE.

YOU COMPLETE THIS COUNCIL.

AS OF YOUR NOT ONLY YOUR EXPERIENCE, BUT YOUR MATHEMATICAL GENIUS IS THE MATHEMATICAL AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ALL BRING STRENGTHS ON THIS COUNCILMAN AND YOU'VE DEFINITELY BOUGHT THAT. NO. I'M PROUD OF YOUR DECISION, PROUD OF WHERE YOUR WIFE.

ARE WE DOING SOMETHING SPECIAL, I'M SURE, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T COME TO THIS POINT WITHOUT PRAYER, RIGHT? LOTS OF PRAYER, LOTS OF PRAYER AND TRYING TO IN THE LORD'S EXPLORATION.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR FAMILY INTEREST AND PART OF THE INTEREST, AS WELL AS GETTING MORE OF OUR FAMILY, CLOSER PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER.

SO AND THAT'S THAT'S LEGAL.

AND I THINK MORE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONLY MEMBERS OF FAMILY MOVING TO THE SAME AREA. AND AND AND JUST I GUESS FOR EVERYBODY'S EDIFICATION, I THINK WE HAVE TRYING TIMES COMING AHEAD OF US. I REALLY DO.

AND THERE WERE SOME FOLKS OF FAITH BELIEVE THAT MAYBE WERE IN TIMES OF PROPHECY AND TRIBULATION AS WELL.

BUT EITHER WAY, WHETHER WE'RE DIRECTLY IN THERE OR NOT, WHETHER WE BELIEVE THAT, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ROUGH TIMES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE FAMILY AND KNOW PEOPLE AROUND YOU. THOSE THAT'S IN THE END.

I'VE ALWAYS SAID I'M GOING TO PUT MY FAMILY FIRST WITH THIS JOB AND EVERYTHING THAT I DO.

AND THAT'S WHAT I FELT AT TIMES IN MY LIFE AS A MAN.

I ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT JUST LIKE I'M HUMAN, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

BUT IN THE END, THAT'S ALWAYS WHERE MY MY HEART MINDSET AND JUST LIKE WHENEVER I GET MY HEART MIND SET ON WHAT I FEEL IS RIGHT FOR THE CITY, I STICK TO IT, BUT DOESN'T MAKE IT ALWAYS EASY. THAT'S HER, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING MORE.

WITH. I BLESS THEM, COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND I RECLAIM YOUR TIME.

NEGATIVE, SIR, WE'VE ALREADY BYPASSED THAT.

BUT I WILL ALLOW THIS THIS TIME.

I JUST WANT TO SAY TO COUNCILMAN BAILEY, ALTHOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU ALL THE TIME, I DO LIKE THAT TO A PERSON AND I.

I THINK YOUR OPINION I LISTEN TO EVERYTHING YOU SAY, AND I WISH YOU THE BEST, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. I REALLY DO.

AND SAFE, YOU KNOW, A THAT'S WHERE YOU GOING, I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH DECISION.

I HAD TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS LIKE THIS.

I'M PRAYING FOR YOU AND I HOPE THE BEST.

THANK YOU. MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO THROW A WRENCH IN THIS, BECAUSE I THINK COUNCILMAN FELIX WANTS TO RECLAIM HIS TIME AS WELL.

WELL, IF I MAY, I WOULD CONCUR TO WHAT IT'S BEEN SAID.

IT'S DEFINITELY A SURPRISE.

A SURPRISED WISH YOU THE BEST SLEEP.

YOU KNOW. ONE MAY ASK, WHY NOW AND WHY NOT? BUT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.

IT WASN'T A I DECIDED, YOU KNOW SOMETHING? YOU DID IT AND I WAVED AND SO ON, AND I SHOULD HAVE.

OH. EVERY DECISION YOU MADE.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON RIGHT ON CUE.

I HAD NOTHING TO SAY BUT VAN COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

LIKE LIKE LIKE THE OTHERS HAVE SHARED, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I WILL CALL YOU JEFF FOR A SECOND MAN LIKE.

THE AMOUNT OF RESPECT I HAVE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCILMAN, YOU KNOW. WHAT HAS BEEN LIKE TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF PUT THEMSELVES BEFORE THEIR FAMILY? AND HERE FOR YOU TO LIKE TO SAY WHY NOW YOU YOU'VE YOU'VE HAD TO CALL IN AND SOMETHING I DON'T NEED. NO, IT'S NOT OUR BUSINESS.

BUT FOR YOU TO PUT YOUR FAMILY FIRST AND SAY, I'M STEPPING AWAY FROM THE LIMELIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE A FAMILY TO RAISE, I NEED TO DO THIS.

SIR, I JUST I TIP MY HAT TO YOU, MAN.

[04:10:01]

THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST SITTING HERE.

BILL SAW MY MOUTH WIDE OPEN BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WHAT? LIKE, BUT I TRULY MEAN THAT MAN AND HOW.

WOW, YEAH. HE WILL BE MS., YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WILL BE MS..

BUT FAMILY COMES FIRST, MAN AND FAMILY COMES FIRST.

SO SO COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

I APPLAUD YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL BUT MORE SO I KNOW MS. QUARRIE APPRECIATES YOU AND LITTLE GEOFFREY APPRECIATES YOU AS WELL.

AND YOUR DAUGHTER. SO APPRECIATE YOU MAN.

KENNY. YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO YIELD MY TIME TO, BUT I CAN'T.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU AS A COUNCILMAN, AS A CIVILIAN, IS WHAT I'LL SAY AS A CITIZEN. YOUR VOICE TO REASON ON SEVERAL TOPICS FELL RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT MY THOUGHTS WERE. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, YOUR PASSION.

YOU DEMONSTRATED A DIFFERENT THAN THAN WHAT I DID.

IT DEMONSTRATED YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I SPEAK WITH MY HANDS ANYWAY, RIGHT.

SO I THINK WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK AND PRY ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE KNOW THAT GOD'S GOT YOU IN.

GOD'S GOT YOUR FAMILY.

AND THAT'S WHAT LED LEGGIO, AND THAT'S WHAT WILL CONTINUE TO LEAD YOU.

MY FRIEND. THAT WILL ALWAYS THAT'S THE LIGHT.

THAT WITH YOUR FAMILY, I WILL SAY THAT UNDER MY REPORTS I HAVE.

SLEEP DEPRIVED, IF IT'S NOT EVIDENT, I'LL JUST SHARE WHY I HAD THE HONOR OF.

ON THE RIDE ALONG WITH STATION ONE AT STATION IS SUCH WHAT CAMARADERIE, WHAT CAMARADERIE, WHAT UNITY, WHAT TEAMWORK, IT'S ACTUALLY REPLICATED IN THE CIVILIAN ATMOSPHERE.

AND I'M USED TO THAT AS BEING A SERVICE MEMBER IN THE BRANCH OF SERVICE, WHICH I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE ON THIS DAYS.

IT'S A CERTAIN CAMARADERIE THAT YOU TRY TO REPLICATE ONCE YOU LEAVE THE SERVICE.

AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, IT WAS REPLICATED AT STATION NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN AS AN ENCORE, I HAD A RIDE ALONG WITH TWO OF OUR FINEST LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. AND YES, THEY CARRIED ON TO THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING, AND YET I STILL GOT UP TO GO TO WORK AND I'M HERE THIS LATE, SO I MAY NOT BE AS EXCITED, AS ENTHUSIASTIC AS I NORMALLY WOULD BE. NOW, YOU KNOW WHY, BUT I WANT TO GIVE IT UP TO THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT US EACH AND EVERY DAY.

I WITNESS A LIFE SAVING OPPORTUNITY BY ONE OF OUR OFFICERS TO JUST STEPPED RIGHT IN.

AND AND I.

I PRAY THAT THAT THE INDIVIDUAL, THE VICTIM IS IS STILL ALIVE.

BUT IT'S AMAZING HOW TRAINING JUST TAKES RIGHT OVER.

AND AND IT WAS SUCH A WONDERFUL THING TO WITNESS.

BUT ANYWAY. WE'RE GOING ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND I'M GOING ASS, WE'RE ON ITEM ONE AS MS. SHERMAN TO PRESENT THIS ITEM.

[NEW BUSINESS]

WE HAD A PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING 1798, GLENWOOD ST.

NE AND THE OUTSTANDING CODE VIOLATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.

THE AGENDA ITEM INCLUDES DETAILS ABOUT THE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS, HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE. ESSENTIALLY 2018 2019 WERE THE DATES OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUTSTANDING. LEANS ON THE PROPERTY OR FINES ASSESSED TO THE PROPERTY ARE OVER 100000 DOLLARS AT THIS POINT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL HAD ASKED US TO DO WAS TO BRING THIS BACK SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL SIDE OF THINGS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT BE DIRECTED TO BY COUNSEL.

ALSO HAD ASKED FOR AN ESTIMATE, A COST ESTIMATE.

IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD DOWN THE LEGAL PATH AND WE GET PERMISSION AS A CITY TO GO IN AND CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY IN THE AGENDA MEMO, WE GIVE YOU A COST ESTIMATE OF ABOUT TEN TO FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO GET ESTIMATES THAT ARE ACTUALLY LOWER THAN THAT BECAUSE THE THE DISPOSAL CREW COMPANIES CANNOT ACTUALLY SEE THE BACKYARD AT THIS TIME.

BUT WE EXPECT THAT RANGE TO BE A FAIRLY GOOD COST ESTIMATE ON OUR END MINERAL.

PATRICIA, YOU WANT ADD THAT.

BUT THE OTHER COSTS THAT WERE IN THE AGENDA MEMO WERE JUST LIKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FILING FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SO THE COSTS FROM THAT STANDPOINT ARE NOT TOO EGREGIOUS AND WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO PAY FOR THAT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

[04:15:02]

SO I ACTUALLY WILL BE COMING TO YOU NEXT MEETING TO REQUEST MONEY JUST FOR OUR REGULAR MOWING. BUT THERE'S ABOUT A TOTAL OF FOUR HUNDRED NINETY FIVE THOUSAND IN THE REVENUE FUND, THE ONE ON FIVE ACCOUNTS, WHICH ARE WHEN WE TAKE IN THE MONEY THAT PEOPLE PAY US FOR THE NUISANCE LIENS IT GOES INTO THE REVENUE ACCOUNT DOES NOT GO BACK INTO THE EXPENDITURE ACCOUNT, BUT IT IS DEDICATED FOR THE PURPOSES OF NUISANCE AND, YOU KNOW, CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES.

THANK YOU. SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, TO PURSUE ANY AND ALL LEGAL REMEDIES TO FACILITATE FACILITATE THE CLEAN UP OF THIS PROPERTY.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL MAYOR? YES, IF I MAY, I JUST STILL DO I KNOW I FOR ONE A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, TOO.

I'M JUST I'M STILL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ENGAGE ME. THERE'S GOING TO BE POLICE PRESENCE OF THIS GOES THROUGH FULL FRUITION.

AND THERE'S I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT IT CAN HAVE ON THE EMPLOYEES AND AND OR WHOEVER ELSE WE SENT OUT THERE TO DO THE CLEANUP, WHETHER THERE ARE BOYS OR SOMEBODY ELSE OF THAT SITUATION.

AND THEN AND THEN THE VIABILITY OF IT BEING A SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION FOR THESE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF NO COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY IT JUST I'M JUST I'M ASKING SITTAR THAT.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, CONSIDER THAT BEFORE DOING IT AGAIN, BECAUSE WITHOUT FAMILY SUPPORT, IF YOU WATCH A SHOW HOARDERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WITHOUT EVEN WITH FAMILY SUPPORT, THESE THINGS AND WHENEVER THERE'S OTHER MITIGATING FACTORS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS AWARE OF, THAT'S UNSPOKEN.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. EVEN WITH FAMILY SUPPORT, THEY DON'T ALWAYS SUCCEED.

AND I THINK THAT DOING IT IN A VACUUM WITHOUT A SUPPORT STRUCTURE THAT'S AROUND TO SUSTAIN IT, IT COULD CREATE A COMBUSTION COMBUSTIBLE SITUATION AT THE TIME OF CLEANUP AS WELL AS IN THE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS THEREAFTER.

RIGHT. I'M JUST THAT'S MY FEAR.

ALTHOUGH I STILL MY HEART GOES OUT TO THOSE NOW, THE POOR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE NEXT TO IT.

BUT THAT'S MY COMMENTS, MAYOR.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THERE'S SOME MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.

THIS HAS GONE ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ACTION.

SO I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, NOW I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE NAME, AS IS FOUR TO ONE. ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST ONE THING TO ANNOUNCE FOR THOSE WHO ARE ATTENDING THE COURT KING'S

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]

THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THAT.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONSISTENCY OF KEEPING COURT KINGS ALIVE OR AND MOVING FORWARD.

ADAM SMITH. NOTHING FURTHER.

OR MADAM OR MS. LUFFLER. YES, MAYOR STUFF WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE THE WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS EMPLOYEE VEHICLE ALLOWANCES AND IS RECOMMENDING THURSDAY, JULY 8TH, AT SIX P.M..

SO THAT IS A WEEK FROM TODAY.

I WILL BE HERE. I'LL BE HERE.

OVER HERE. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

A PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FORWARD MR., I CAN'T CALL YOU MS..

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

OK. SORRY TO SEE YOU GO.

[04:20:03]

I UNDERSTAND. I REALLY DO.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, DEPUTY MAYOR.

WHAT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE YOU? YOUNGEST CITY COUNCIL WE'VE EVER HAD WITH THE MOST SENIORITY.

THANK YOU. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I JUST NOTICED THE OTHER DAY, I THINK I WAS THE YOUNGEST, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE THE YOU'RE THE YOUNGEST.

I WAS THE SECOND YOUNGEST.

NOW I'M THE THIRD YOUNGEST SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED, BUT I'M THE YOUNGEST TO BE REELECTED. SO CHALLENGE ON AND I'M THE YOUNGEST LOOKING ONE ON THE COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.