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I'D LIKE TO CALL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2021-18 TO ORDER OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY NONE OTHER THAN BISHOP MERTON CLARK FROM TRUTH REVEAL MINISTRIES TERMINATION, AS THEY CALL IT. AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
PLEASE RISE. WE'RE ALL STANDING AT ATTENTION, WE'RE ALL GATHERED TODAY, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE THAT WANT TO BE IN AND I WAS LOCKED IN, THAT IS A BOTTLENECK.
AND I THINK I'M GOING TO PRAY THAT ANY BOTTLENECKS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE BLOCKAGES THAT STOPPING US FROM COMING TOGETHER.
WE NEED TO ASK FATHER TO HELP US WITH THOSE THINGS.
ALTHOUGH WE GIVE YOU THANKS AND PRAISE FOR THIS MOMENT, FOR THIS CITY, WE OFFER HER TO YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO LEAD THIS CITY.
ARE ASKING THAT THERE WILL BE A MATURATION BETWEEN THE LEADERS OF THIS CITY, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT NATION, CITIZENS OF THIS CITY OR ITS FIRE DEPARTMENT. POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THOSE THAT WILL BE HONORED THIS EVENING, THOSE WHO FALLEN, HAVE GONE ON BEFORE US, I'M ASKING YOU TO RELEASE IN THIS CITY THE FREEDOM TO LOVE EACH OTHER.
REGARDLESS OF AGE, COLOR, CREED, ETHNICITY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN, REGARDLESS OF OUR RELIGION, HELP US TO LOVE EACH OTHER.
AND IF WE LOVE EACH OTHER, IF WE JOIN HANDS WITH EACH OTHER, THERE'S NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE THAT WE CAN'T DO IN YOUR NAME.
A NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THAT WAS JUST SO MOTIVATING TO HEAR EVERYONE IN UNISON SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THANK YOU ALL. MS. TERESE, ROCKHALL AIR MEDINA DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX MS. SHERMAN. YOU'RE HERE.
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DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR.WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE MEMBER WHO OWNS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR OPERATES A BUSINESS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
TWO VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS RESIDENTIAL HOME BUILDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOMEBUILDING EMPLOYED WITHIN THE CITY FOR PROFIT PROVIDER OR NOT FOR PROFIT PROVIDER POSITIONS.
THREE VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS THAT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITIONS. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA TAG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THREE FOUR ONE FOUR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR UNDER AGENDA REVISIONS.
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I WANTED TO JUST INTERJECT BEFORE I ASKED MS. SHERMAN. MS..VINCENT. A NEW BUSINESS BEING THAT WE HAVE SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY HERE.
WELL, I LIKE TO BRING THAT UP ON THE AGENDA RIGHT AFTER THE PROCLAMATION AND THE RECOGNITION. AND I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. I ONLY OPPOSE A.
WE WILL BE MOVING NUMBER TWO, ITEM NUMBER TWO.
TO. RIGHT BEFORE PRESENTATIONS.
ADAM SHERMAN. YES, NO AGENDA REVISIONS, JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU WANT US TO DO CONSENT FIRST. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES, MA'AM. SO NO AGENDA REVISIONS FOR ME, THANK YOU.
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DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ITEMS THREE FIVE, NINE, 10, 15.[00:05:04]
NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FIVE.ANY ANY OTHER MEMBERS ON COUNCILMAN WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS. SO, YOU KNOW, NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
IT'S ALMOST. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
OR THE CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTIONS, ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSE, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE WILL GO STRAIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE MAYOR.
YES, IF I MAY READ THE CAPTIONS OF THOSE ITEMS WE'VE JUST PASSED.
DASH FORTY NINE. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 61 SUSPENSION AND OR REMOVAL OF CITY BOARD MEMBER BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR ATTENDANCE BY BOARD MEMBERS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.
HERE WITH WRITING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. DASH THIRTY SIX.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MITTING RESOLUTION 2020, DASH 50 AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2021, THAT'S 06 AND ONE DEC.
17, ADOPTING THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 THROUGH 2021, THROUGH 2024, 2025, OR A CITY OF PALM BAY RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE WOULD BE RESOLUTION TWENTY, TWENTY ONE, THAT'S
[3. Resolution 2021-35, amending Resolution 2020-49, adopting Classification and Pay Plans and the Position Control Plan for employees of the City of Palm Bay (third amendment).]
THIRTY FIVE, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH FORTY NINE, AMENDED OUR RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH ZERO FIVE AND TWENTY TWENTY ONE.THAT'S SIXTEEN. ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION IPPEI PLANS AND THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES. THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR.
TWENTY TWENTY TWO TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON CONSENT.
NUMBER THREE, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ESSENTIALLY ON THE SUBPARAGRAPH THAT HAS TO DO WITH PUBLIC WORKS. IT SAYS THAT WE'RE TAKING THE WHAT I ASSUME TO BE THE FUNDING FROM THE VACANT MAINTENANCE WORKER AND PUSHING THAT TO THE CITY ENGINEER.
AND IT SAYS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE NO FISCAL IMPACT BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS THE MONEY. BUT MY INQUIRY IS, WHY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ONE LESS MAINTENANCE WORKER AND OUR CITY ENGINEER HAVE THAT MUCH MORE FUNDS? SO IF I COULD JUST GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
PLUS, I DO HAVE QUITE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT, AND I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE FOLKS BEHIND ME ARE GOING TO LEAVE BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
AND I MUST SAY THAT IF YOU LEAVE AFTER NEW BUSINESS TO AND YOU DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO NEW BUSINESS THREE, YOU'RE DOING YOURSELF AN INJUSTICE.
SO YOU MAY LEAVE THIS EVENING TO GO HOME TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, GO HOME TO YOUR FACEBOOK AND WATCH THIS WHOLE COUNCIL MEETING.
FOLKS, DON'T JUST LEAVE. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU.
SO, MADAM SHERMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE MAINTENANCE? YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ASPECTS TO THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE BREAKING APART AN EXISTING DUAL POSITION OF A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, CITY ENGINEER AS A DUAL POSITION.
IT'S NOW TWO SEPARATE POSITIONS, BUT WE HAD TO CREATE IN AN EMPTY SPOT FOR THAT, WHICH WAS THE ELIMINATION OF A NETWORK THAT HAD BEEN VACANT.
OUR INTENTION IS TO FULLY FUND ALL THOSE POSITIONS IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR SO THE MAINTENANCE WORKER WOULD COME BACK.
SO THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED THERE.
SO THE SEE, THE SAVINGS WAS REALLY JUST USED TO CREATE A SEPARATE POSITION SO WE COULD FUND TWO SEPARATE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALSO, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? WASHINGTON APPROVED RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO 35 THIRD AMENDMENT.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSED US IS FOUR TO ONE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
[5. Consideration of an amendment to the Interlocal Agreement with Brevard County regarding the St. Johns Heritage Parkway and Babcock Street intersection for an extension to the right-of-way acquisition.]
UNCONSENTED. MR. BILL BURTON. GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, A COUPLE OF QUICK POINTS ON THIS ONE.NUMBER ONE, ITEM NUMBER ONE, AS A JAILBREAK REPORT HAPPENED TO BE THE ST.
JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND ONE OF THEIR BIG FINDINGS IN THAT WAS THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO CONTRACTS MADE PRIOR TO DOING BUSINESS AND NO DOCUMENTATION TO COINCIDE WITH THAT.
AND THAT INVESTIGATION, THAT ITEM NUMBER ONE, IS STILL UNDER INQUIRY GOING ON WITHIN THE
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CITY. YET ONE MORE TIME, ST.JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN FUNDING AND DOCUMENTATION IS COMING UP AGAIN.
BABCOCK, ROADWORK IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAID FOR UNDER KIFF TO FUNDINGS.
HOWEVER, IF WE GIVE TAX CREDITS TO THE DEVELOPER OR DONATING LAND OR WHATEVER IT IS, WHERE DO WE GENERATE THE FUND IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THE ROAD.
THAT MEANS IT COMES OFF OF SOMEBODY ELSE AND NOT THE DEVELOPER, REMEMBER? WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM IF YOU KEEP GIVING CREDIT TOWARD THE SERVICES? ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARK, WHERE RESIDENTS HAVE PAID NINE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ROAD, PLUS ANY MONEY CURRENTLY ALREADY SPENT ON BABCOCK.
YET THE DEVELOPERS FOR THE ACTUAL PAVING AND BUILDING OF THE ROAD HAVE DONE ZERO.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, NO CONTRACTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE EAST AND NO CONTRACTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE WEST.
THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP IN THIS POSITION.
YET THE CITY IS STILL MAKING COMMITMENTS TO PROCEED WITHOUT HAVING CONTRACTS.
HISTORY DOES REPEAT ITSELF, ESPECIALLY IF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THE DECISIONS DON'T REMEMBER THE PAST.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, SPECIAL CLASSIFICATION FOR THESE DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND COMMERCIAL THAT WAS GOING TO GENERATE FUNDS BECAUSE WE SAID, WELL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL.
WELL, I'VE SEEN ALL KINDS OF RESIDENTIAL BEING BUILT, SAY, TO PALM BAY HAS LOTS OF RESIDENTIAL CAPABILITY.
AND THE BIG THING WAS COMMERCIAL.
YET I SEE ZERO COMMERCIAL FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN.
YET WE HAVE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR RESIDENTIAL COME INTO PLAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS RELATED TO AN EXISTING AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS WITH BREVARD COUNTY TO BUILD A FULLY WIDENED FOUR LANE INTERSECTION AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE ST. JOHN'S HERGE PARKWAY AND BABCOCK.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST A TWO LANE WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO IT WILL BE WIDENED BASED ON OUR OUR COMMITMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY TO DO SO.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION TO SOME SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC DATE THAT IS IN THAT AGREEMENT.
THERE ARE TIMELINES THAT ESTABLISH THAT BY DECEMBER END OF DECEMBER 2023, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THAT FULLY WIDENED INTERSECTION.
ONE OF THE DATES THAT IS IN THERE IS ALSO THAT BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, DECEMBER 31ST, 2021, THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE COMPLETED ACQUIRING ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THAT WIDENING. THAT HAS NOT QUITE BEEN COMPLETED.
SO WE ASKED THE COUNTY FOR AN EXTENSION.
THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT, GRANTED IT.
AND SO THIS IS PROCEDURALLY COMING TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR THAT SAME CONSIDERATION.
REGARDING THE QUESTION, MR. BATTAN AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE ABOUT THIS EARLIER, BUT HE WAS CORRECT IN TERMS OF THERE ARE NO CURRENT CONTRACTS YET FOR THE FUTURE PROJECTS.
WE ARE WORKING THROUGH WHAT ARE CALLED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AT PRESENT.
ONE IS EXPECTED TO COME TO COUNCIL ACTUALLY IN EARLY AUGUST, AND THE OTHERS WILL BE WORKED ON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO THOSE THOSE AGREEMENTS, THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE FORTHCOMING.
AND THOSE WILL ALL RELATE TO A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL INCLUDE BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
YOU'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF PLANS THAT DO SHOW THAT THEY ARE STILL COMMITTED TO DEVELOPING COMMERCIAL OUT THERE AS WELL.
UNTIL THEY GET THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, THOUGH, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK THAT COVERS THE QUESTIONS THERE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALSO, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO ENTER LOCAL AGREEMENT REGARDING ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY INTERSECTION IN BABCOCK STREET TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT FOLLOWING THE COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVAL AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD.
OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MAYOR NAGIN, DEPUTY MAYOR, FOR DEFERRING I JUST JUST WANTED REALLY QUICK. NO MR. BACK. NO, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT THAT WEREN'T HERE THOSE TIMES WHEN WE DID VOTE IN THIS PREVIOUSLY.
AND I WAS DEFINITELY AGAINST THIS CONTRACT TO BEGIN WITH.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS DEAL WITH THE COUNTY.
AND I THINK, QUITE FRANKLY, PALM BAY TAXPAYERS WERE RIPPED OFF IN THIS DEAL.
BUT FOR THIS RIGHT HERE AMENDMENT, THE SPECIFIC AMENDMENT, WHICH IS REALLY SMALL AS FAR AS THE FULL SPECTRUM OF THE LOCAL, THIS MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE ON THE CITY SIDE.
SO I SUPPORT IT. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMENTER JUST SAID A MINUTE AGO AS FAR AS THIS BEING A BAD DEAL FOR THE CITY.
I THINK THAT I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON YOU.
OK, SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN. THE AINUN ALL IN FAVOR, I HE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER NINE,
[9. Consideration of utilizing Fire Impact Fees for a fire training center facility at Station 5 ($516,000).]
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MR. BILL THAT.GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I FIND IT KIND OF STRANGE THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS WILLING TO SPEND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A TRAINING FACILITY, YET WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT SPENDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS TO VOTE AY AY UNDER.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO DO.
I COME FROM ENOUGH BACKGROUND TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T BE READY IF YOU DON'T TRAIN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO TRAIN WITH THE UNIVERSITY USING THEIR FACILITIES. AND THEY'VE EXPLAINED TO ME WHY THEY NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BILL BATTEN SAYS WE ARE CURRENTLY GETTING THE TRAINING, MAYBE NOT TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY WANT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE TOTAL FUNDS.
I THINK THAT SAME FUND COULD BE USED TO BUY APPARATUSES EQUIPMENT.
SO ME PERSONALLY, I SEE IT AS I'D RATHER HAVE THE FIGHTING FIGHTING FORCE CAPABILITY WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT I CAN PUT ANYWHERE WE NEED IT WITHIN THE CITY THAN TO SAY, OH, WE SHOULD ABORT ANOTHER FIRE TRUCK OR ANOTHER TWO FIRE TRUCKS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET TO WHERE THE FIRE WAS.
WE'RE WELL-TRAINED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO GO PUT THE FIRES OUT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SENIOR CHIEF MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO, YEAH, WE WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING TO DO TWO THINGS WITH THE CITY'S BUDGET IN THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR.
ONE IS ABSOLUTELY TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS OUR OUTSTANDING EQUIPMENT NEEDS.
THAT'S THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. AND GROWING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOCUS.
SO WE HAVE A GOOD 10 YEAR LOOK AT AND WE CAN START PRIORITIZING SOME OF THOSE REPLACEMENTS. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THESE TWO THINGS ARE NOT IN CONFLICT, BUT RATHER THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO DO TO DEVELOP A TRAINING FACILITY AT OUR NEW FIRE STATION FIRE SITE. ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF PURCHASING AND DEVELOPING OUT THAT SITE, AS WE SAW AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT PROJECT, WAS THAT IT HAD MORE ROOM THAN WE HAVE AT OUR TRADITIONAL FIRE STATIONS.
ONE OF THE INTENDED PLANS WAS TO DEVELOP MORE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES IN-HOUSE.
AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THIS.
IF COUNCIL ALLOWS US ALSO ONE OF THE LONG TERM BENEFITS AS WE WORK TO INCREASE AND IMPROVE OUR ISO RATINGS IS THAT PROPERTY INSURANCE WILL BE BENEFITED IN TERMS OF RATES COMING DOWN. AS WE DO THINGS LIKE TRAINING IN-HOUSE, THEY'LL BE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.
AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION, MAMMO.
THE TRAINING AT THE YOU AT THE UNIVERSITY AS AN EXAMPLE.
OH, IS THAT A COMPLICATED ISSUE? I MEAN, SCHEDULING WISE, IS IS THAT CUMBERSOME FOR OUR TEAM? YES, SIR. IT'S BEEN VERY CHALLENGING.
THERE ARE VERY LIMITED DAYS THAT THE COUNT THE EXCUSE ME, THE COLLEGE CAN ALLOW US TO OPERATE THERE. AND IF YOU'D LIKE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES, I CAN CERTAINLY BRING UP OUR FIRE CHIEF TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU.
IT'S LIKE TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, MAN.
YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND COUNCIL, RESPECT TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING SPENT ON THIS BURN BUILDING. THE MONEY IS NOT COMING FROM GENERAL FUND FROM THE CITY, IT IS FROM FIRE IMPACT FEES. IT CANNOT BE USED ON ANYTHING EXCEPT AND THE NEXUS OF THREE TWO NINE 09, WHICH IS WHERE STATION FIVE SITS.
A PROBLEM WITH THAT IS YOU ALSO CAN'T USE IT TO REPLACE ANY EQUIPMENT.
IT MUST BE NEW EQUIPMENT TIED TO GROWTH.
WE'VE NEVER HAD A TRAINING FACILITY, SO WE PUT IN TO HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY BECAUSE OF THE CITY GROWTH. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE TRAINING FACILITY TO ACTUALLY TRAIN.
WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE FLIP ABOUT IT, BUT IT'LL BE IN A PARKING LOT AIMING FIRE HOSES AT A PALM TREE.
THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR A CITY THIS SIZE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN WE TRAIN AT THE COLLEGE, WE'RE LIMITED TO SUMMER HOURS.
ONLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN CLASS, WE PAY 10000 DOLLARS PLUS INSTRUCTORS PLUS FUEL, AND WE ONLY GET FRIDAYS. SO IF IT'S RAINED OUT, WE ACTUALLY MS. TRAINING FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME.
THE OTHER THING IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO IS TRAIN WITH MORE THAN ONE ENGINE AT A TIME AND IT IS A TEAMWORK SCENARIO.
SO THIS FACILITY IS REALLY CRITICAL.
IF WE'RE TRYING TO BRING COMMERCIAL INTO THE CITY, THEY LOOK AT THE ISO AND RIGHT NOW WITH BUILDING THAT FACILITY, WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GAIN BETWEEN 15 AND 20 POINTS AND LOWER THE ISO BY WONDERFUL NUMBER.
YOU ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY.
YEAH, AND I THINK TO REAL QUICK TO ADDRESS MR. BATTENS CONCERNS OR SUGGESTIONS WAS NO.
WHETHER WE NEED MORE EQUIPMENT, RIGHT.
I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU CLARIFIED THAT ITS IMPACT THIS IS NOT GENERAL FUND, SO IT'S
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LIMITED IN HOW WE CAN SPEND IT.IN REALITY, WE MADE THESE DECISIONS WHEN WE INCREASED THE FIRE IMPACT THE ON SOME DEGREE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT WAS BASED ON YOUR ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HERE.
BUT LET ME MAKE SURE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ASK MS. SHERMAN THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT WILL WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH? AND THAT NEXUS IN THAT PARTICULAR FUND OF IMPACT, THESE FOR ANY FUTURE GROWTH OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THAT AREA? YES, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.
THAT'S THE LARGEST GROWING NEXUS IN THE CITY.
SO THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE ENOUGH THERE WHEN WE IF WE HAVE TO OPEN NEW STATIONS, EVEN WHEN WE SPEND THIS. BUT THE EQUIPMENT THERE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE WITH THIS MONEY, BUT WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH TO PUT THE EQUIPMENT.
THIS TRAINING IS CRUCIAL TO CERTIFICATION.
YOU'RE FIRED. PART OF IT IS ACTUALLY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SO MANY HOURS PER MONTH AND WE'RE WAY BEHIND ON THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU CAN ONLY TRAIN IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEND CREWS OUT.
WHEN THE HEAT INDEX IS OVER 100 DEGREES, THEY'RE WEARING 80 POUNDS OF GEAR.
AND I'M ASKING THEM TO FIGHT FIRE AND TRAINING SCENARIOS.
AND THEN I TURN AROUND AND ASK THEM TO STAY ON FOR THE REST OF THE 24 HOUR SHIFT AND WAIT FOR AN ACTUAL EMERGENCY TO COME IN.
SO WITH THIS, WE CAN ACTUALLY TRAIN IN THE SPRING AND TRAIN IN THE FALL AND ACTUALLY IN THE WINTER MONTHS WHEN IT'S COOLER AND WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE DAYS AND MULTIPLE TYPES OF TRAINING THAT GO ON BECAUSE IT IS SIGNIFICANT TRAINING.
IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THROWING THE WATER AT THE FIRE.
THERE IS ACTUALLY TECHNIQUES THAT GO WITH THAT.
I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC BECAUSE I WAS THERE WITH YOU ALONG WITH THE MAYOR.
HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THAT, THE FUNDS TO BUILD THAT FIRE STATION ON THAT FIRE STATION WAS MOSTLY CHEBEAGUE MONEY AND PART OF IT WAS THE SMALL PORTION OF IT, I THINK ABOUT ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND WAS GENERAL FUND.
WE JUST LUCKED OUT WITH THAT PROPERTY COMING AVAILABLE, I MEAN, FIVE ACRES.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, WE SAID THIS IS GOING TO BE PERFECT TO ADD THE TRAINING FACILITY WHEN THE IMPACT FIRST GOT TO THAT POINT.
AND BECAUSE THE GROWTH IS THERE, WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT NOW.
SO WE'LL HAVE A FIRE STATION, ALL NEW EQUIPMENT AND A TRAINING FACILITY.
MOST OF THAT WAS DONE BY GRANT.
YES, SIR. I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT.
THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY. ONE, ONE QUICK ONE, ONE QUESTION THAT MR BATTEN USUALLY BRINGS UP TO AND MYSELF USUALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT'S THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE, WHAT'S NOWHERE'S WHAT'S OUR GENERAL FUND COMMITMENT? AND FOR THE BRAND BUILDING FOR THE YEARS, IT'S ACTUALLY THE BRAND BUILDING ITSELF.
IT'S ACTUALLY MINIMAL WHAT YOU DO AFTER EACH SEASON AS YOU REBUILD JOINTS.
THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL, WHAT I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE A BUDGET APPROPRIATION OF FIVE HUNDRED SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS UTILIZING FIRE IMPACT FEES FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF A TRAINING FACILITY AT FIRESTATION FIVE, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION COUNCIL? YOU KNOW, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, AND HE OPPOSES PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM
[15. Acknowledgement of the City's monthly financial report for May 2021.]
NUMBER 15, DEPUTY MAYOR A.C..MS. MAYOR COUNCIL, RANDALL CHESKY, MY INQUIRY THIS EVENING ON CONSENT NUMBER 15 HAS TO DO WITH THE UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.
I SEARCHED THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR IT AND I DIDN'T NOTICE IT IN THIS PARTICULAR EDITION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES ON THE MONTHLY OR IF IT ONLY GOES ON THE QUARTERLY.
BUT MY GOAL IN THIS COMMENT, AND I'M GOING TO REALLY LEAVE IT AS AN OPEN ENDED QUESTION IS I WOULD LIKE IF WE COULD HERE AS A PUBLIC WHAT THE CURRENT UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE IS AND WHAT THAT PUTS US ON PAYS FOR BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHERE TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR.
SO I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS UNDESIGNATED NOW AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE THINK WILL END THE FISCAL YEAR WITH UNDESIGNATED.
MY MEMORY SERVES TO TELL ME THAT WE ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY WITH TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS UNDESIGNATED DESIGNATED I THINK IT WAS THIRTEEN IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE WE'RE POSITIONED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2001.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR THAT ANSWER.
THANK YOU. ADAM SHERMAN, I JUST LOOKED AT OUR FINANCE TEAM, THEY DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH THEM FOR AN ANSWER.
WE CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT IN FUTURE MONTHLY REPORTS AND I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT ANSWER AS A FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMAN TO MR. SHULSKY. THANK YOU.
AND ALSO, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MOTION TO APPROVE, MOTION TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE MAY 20 21 FINANCIAL REPORT.
AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? NO, BUT YOU REAL QUICK, MAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC TO WHAT'S PRESENTED HERE, BUT JUST A TAG ON WHAT MR.
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OLSZEWSKI JUST WAS ASKING ABOUT, I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE I THINK WE END UP CONCLUDING IT WAS A TWO TO FOUR PERCENT.NO, WE DIDN'T CALL A RAINY DAY FUND.
FORGIVE ME, MS. SHERMAN FORGET I WAS CALLED EMERGENCY, BUT I THINK WE CALL IT SOME STABILIZATION FUND AS WE MAKE SURE THAT IS FUNDED AS WELL.
SO MAYBE HAVING TO REPORT ON THAT, TOO.
YES, SIR. I ACTUALLY PLAN TO INCLUDE THAT AS AN ITEM.
SO YOU CAN YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP IN EARLY AUGUST.
THAT'LL BE PALM BAY. THAT'S RIGHT. AND I THINK WE TALK WE ACTUALLY ALREADY TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. YEAH. A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[RECOGNITIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS]
I'D LIKE TO CALL UP THE BROZMAN FAMILY.COME ON UP AND JOIN ME, PLEASE.
COME ON. I'D ALSO LIKE TO CALL UP OUR CURRENT CHIEF OF POLICE WHO WAS UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF FORMER CHIEF ROBERT ROSSMAN.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
PROCLAMATION, NOTICE PROCLAMATION OF ROBERT ROSSMAN, RETIRED PALM BAY POLICE CHIEF, IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, WHEREAS ON THE PASSING OF FORMER PALM BAY POLICE CHIEF ROBERT ROSSMAN, THE COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL DESIRED TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR ITS DEDICATED SERVICE.
AND WHEREAS CHIEF RASSMAN WAS HIRED AS THE POLICE CHIEF IN DECEMBER 1988 UNTIL HIS RETIREMENT MAY 1994.
WHEREAS DURING HIS TENURE, CHIEF RASSMAN RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR A SECURE OR IN SECURED FUNDING FOR THE MUCH NEEDED 800 MEGAHERTZ RADIO SYSTEM.
COULD YOU IMAGINE RADIO CARS WITHOUT THAT SYSTEM DURING THAT TIME? UNBELIEVABLE. GREATLY IMPROVING RADIO COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN POLICE OFFICERS IN THE FIELD AND THE DISPATCH CENTER BEFORE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY USED SMOKE SIGNALS, BROTHER.
I DON'T KNOW. YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHED LIGHT ON THAT.
WHEREAS CHIEF RASSMAN RECOGNIZED THE NEED OF POLICE OFFICER TRAINING, UPDATED EQUIPMENT AND WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN AND IMPROVE BOTH THESE CRITICAL NEEDS WITH LITTLE TO NO COST TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WHEREAS CHIEF RASSMAN WAS KNOWN BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES AS THE FATHER FIGURE AND CONSIDERED EVERYONE FAMILY.
HE WAS DESCRIBED AS THE CHIEF WHO PUT HIS DEPARTMENT IN FRONT OF HIS OWN NEEDS.
AND YOU KNOW THAT CARRIED ON AS TO THE CIVILIAN WORLD AS WELL.
AND I CAN ATTEST TO THAT AS A YOUNG MARINE CORPS KID COMING OUT OF THE CORPS, YOUR DAD EMBRACED ME AS WELL, WHEREAS CHIEF RASSMAN RECOGNIZED AND ADVOCATED FOR THE NEED FOR DIVERSITY RECRUITMENT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY HONORS AND COMMEMORATES THE LIFE OF CHIEF ROBERT RASSMANN, WHO PASSED AWAY APRIL 9TH, 20 21.
NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY EXTEND SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO THE MEMBERS OF THE RASSMAN FAMILY AND EXPRESS GRATITUDE FOR THE YEARS OF SERVICE CHIEF RASSMAN PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND WINNERS THEREOF.
I HEREBY SET MY MY HANDS SEAL AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE A THE 17 DAY OF JULY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF, I GUESS WHAT THE CHIEF WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS BACK WHEN THIS WHOLE FACILITY WAS BEING BUILT, I HAPPEN TO KNOW THERE WAS A BOND ISSUE AND MY DAD WAS THE CHIEF AT THE TIME.
AND HE HE WENT AND HAD TO REWORK THE WHOLE BOND TO SAVE LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND WITH THAT MILLION DOLLARS HE SAVED, BREVARD COUNTY WAS JUST OPENING UP THE 800 MEGAHERTZ SYSTEM.
AND HE COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THERE THE RADIOS WE HAD DIDN'T WORK.
AND ESPECIALLY AS BIG AS THIS AREA HERE, THERE WERE PARTS OF PALM BAY.
THE POLICE OFFICERS COULDN'T BE HEARD ON THE RADIOS.
BUT THE CITY MANAGER WANTED TO TAKE THE MONEY AND PUT IT TOWARDS ROAD.
SO THERE WAS A LITTLE A BATTLE THERE.
BUT MY DAD WON THAT AND HE GOT THE 800 MEGAHERTZ SYSTEM AND THE TRAINING RAMAH, MIAMI DADE, I RETIRED MIAMI-DADE LIEUTENANT, MY BROTHER, STILL A SERGEANT WITH MIAMI DADE.
SO THE TRAINING WAS HE WOULD SEND GUYS TO STAY IN MY APARTMENT AND TRAIN THEM AT AT
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MIAMI-DADE TRAINING FACILITY.SO, YOU KNOW, MY DAD WAS IT WAS SPECIAL.
HE HIRED YOU, RIGHT, CHIEF? AND THE PREVIOUS CHIEF.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR, THE COUNCIL AND TO THE MEMBERS OF PALM BAY AND EXPECT THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK.
MY BROTHER'S AN ATTORNEY, SO OBVIOUSLY HE'S PROBABLY NOT USED TO SPECI STUFF LIKE THIS.
OUR FAMILY IS VERY, VERY HUMBLED AND HONORED THAT THE THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND MY DAD LOVED PALM BAY. I'M PERSONALLY FROM CONNECTICUT AND I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 1980.
SO I ONLY ONLY IN MY MIND DID PALM BAY COME IN TO MY CONSCIENCE WHEN I STARTED TO COME DOWN TO VISIT AND PALM BAY WAS GROWING, GROWING IN LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
IF EVERYONE REMEMBERS THE LATE 80S AND HE HE LOVED PALM BAY AND HE LOVED THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY. AND ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT HE STILL LIVED HERE UNTIL HE PASSED TWO MONTHS AGO.
HE WOULD HAVE MOVED FROM HERE.
SO IT BECAME PART OF HIS IT BECAME PART OF HIS FABRIC OF HIS LIFE.
PEOPLE OF PALM BAY, THE MAYOR.
WE'RE VERY HUMBLED, THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE BRIEF AS WELL.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT ON THE AGENDA.
SO JEFF ROSSMAN CAME AT A TIME IN OUR AGENCY WHERE POLICING WAS GOING THROUGH A MASSIVE CHANGE IN PROFESSIONALISM, CERTAINLY EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY, LATE 80S, EARLY 90S.
THESE FOLKS CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
AND HE BROUGHT WITH HIM A GREAT DEAL OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND REALLY BROUGHT OUR AGENCY INTO THIS CENTURY.
THOSE OF YOU THAT REMEMBER, IF WE HAD JUST COME FROM THE CRUISE INCIDENT WHERE WE LOST OFFICERS AND IT WAS AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME WHERE THE CITY REALLY NEEDED TO STEP FORWARD AND LEAD THE WAY IN MAKING OUR ENVIRONMENT SAFER FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, IT WAS THEIR FATHER WHO LED THE WAY.
IT WAS THEIR FATHER WHO PROVIDED US WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT MAKES US BETTER.
IT IS THEIR FATHER WHO ESTABLISHED THAT FAMILY FEEL THAT THIS ORGANIZATION STILL EXPERIENCES TO THIS DAY SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT ATTRIBUTES OF A PERSON.
RIGHT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP, YOU LOOK AT HIS CHARACTER AND HIS HUMAN CAPACITIES. AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THAT MAN LEFT AN IMPRESSION IN ME THAT RING STILL TODAY. DOES HE HIRE ME? SO I'M THANKFUL. MOST IMPORTANTLY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO HIS SERVICE DOWN SOUTH, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO FACE A FAMILY.
SO WATCHING YOU FOLKS TALK ABOUT YOUR FATHER RAISED AND THE IMPACT THAT IT HAD ON YOUR FAMILY AND HOW HE DEVELOPED YOU WAS SO IMPRESSIVE TO ME.
AND I LEFT THE IT LEFT SUCH A FEELING OF WARMTH AND IT REALLY SOLIDIFIED THE FAMILY ENVIRONMENT THAT WE TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S AT THAT LEVEL.
AND TO SEE THAT HE HAD THAT IMPRESSION AND YOU LEFT THAT MARK AND YOU TRULY IS AMAZING.
SO I CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WHO YOU ARE AND YOUR FAMILIES AND CERTAINLY THE FAMILY MAN THAT HE CREATED.
NEVER SAY NEVER STAND IN FRONT OF A LAWYER.
SO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO HONOR SEVERAL FOLKS HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THE SACRIFICE OF TIME AND DUTY TO OUR CITY IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HONOR AND RECOGNIZE.
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A BASIC INGREDIENT IN THE FOUNDATION OF OUR CITY IS THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE INITIATIVE AND THE VOLUNTEER ACCEPTANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY BY OUR PRIVATE CITIZENS.EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS SOME CONTRIBUTION TO OFFER FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS.
AND YOU AS A VOLUNTEER HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE WELL-BEING OF FELLOW RESIDENTS AND THE WELFARE OF ALL OUR CITIZENS BY GOING TIRELESSLY OF YOUR TIME, ENERGY WITHOUT DESIRE FOR RECOGNITION, RENUMERATION OR PERSONAL GAIN.
SO THESE INDIVIDUALS I'M ABOUT TO CALL UP, I'M GOING TO PIN THEM.
I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT THE MARINE CORPS WAY BECAUSE I COULD DRAW BLOOD, BUT I'M GOING TO PIN THEM NONETHELESS BECAUSE I FEEL HONOR IS TO BE BESTOWED.
SO I'M GOING TO PLACE THAT PIN ON THEIR PERSON BECAUSE THEY HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH FOR THE CITY. SO I'M GOING TO CALL IN.
THE VOLUNTEER PIN IS BUT A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR OUR LOYAL AND DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS FAITHFULLY RENDERING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, PETER FILIBERTO, JANIE BUDIMAN, JOE HALE AND RICHARD HILL.
I WANT YOU ALL TO STEP FORWARD.
UNDERSTAND MORE THAN JUST THIS HONORING YOU BY THIS MR..
I CAN'T BELIEVE ALL THESE PEOPLE CAME OUT JUST FOR US TO BE RECOGNIZED.
I'M ONLY ONE MAN, I LISTEN TO ALL OF YOU, YOU KNOW, AGAIN OF A TEAM EFFORT, COUNTLESS HOURS AND THANK YOU ALL.
I DO IT FOR YOU GUYS. SO THANK YOU.
SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE NEW BUSINESS, WE JUST MOVE THAT UP.
[NEW BUSINESS (Part 1 of 2)]
WITNESS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH 50, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MITTING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE VI LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 50 ELECTIONS BY REMOVING LANGUAGE PREEMPTED BY THE FLORIDA ELECTION CODE OR CITY CHARTER, AND UPDATING PROVISIONS RELATED TO VACANCIES ON CITY COUNCIL, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH VOTING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM[00:40:01]
BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND COMMITMENT, AND I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKER CARDS, BUT BEFORE BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKERS, JUST WANT TO COVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CIVILITY AS YOU COME BEFORE US TO SPEAK.PLEASE DRAW YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR SPEECH TOWARDS ME.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS ME.
DO NOT MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS TO ANYONE ON THIS DAIS.
IF YOU WANT TO MENTION SOMEONE'S NAME, YOU'RE FREE TO SPEAK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, CONTAIN THAT, BUT PLEASE DIRECTED TOWARDS ME.
YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS REQUEST, AS STATED BY MS. SMITH, IS TO MODIFY THE ELECTION'S LANGUAGE IN THE CODE, WHICH ARE PREEMPTED TO THE STATE AND UPDATES PROVISIONS PURSUANT TO THE CITY CHARTER.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ALSO MODIFIES THE PROVISIONS RELATED TO VACANCIES ON CITY COUNCIL.
CURRENTLY, THE CODE STATES THAT ONE WANT MORE THAN ONE YEAR IS LEFT REMAINING IN THE TERM OF OFFICE AND NO GENERAL ELECTION IS SCHEDULED WITHIN ONE YEAR.
A SPECIAL ELECTION SHALL BE HELD BETWEEN 90 AND 180 DAYS FOLLOWING THE DATE OF THE VACANCY. A PROPOSED LANGUAGE REMOVES THE VACANCY TIMES AND ALLOWS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO FILL THE VACANCY WITHIN 30 DAYS OR CALL FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION AS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE ELECTIONS OFFICE.
THE ESTIMATED COST FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION IS APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE, NOT AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CHARTER. IF THIS ORDINANCE IS APPROVED THAT HAS SUGGESTED AN APPOINTMENT PROCESS VIA THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM AND THE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTED WOULD SERVE THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION IN 2022.
OK, THANK YOU, MA'AM. BEFORE WE GO TO SPEAK KEYCARDS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS A FIRST TERM. THERE'S THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.
THERE'S A FIRST TERM. AND I AM I AM HONORED OF THE RESPONSE BY OUR COMMUNITY.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT MANY SPEAK OF CARDS.
THIS IS IN MY TERMS, THIS IS GUNG HO FOR YOU BEING HERE.
AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MR. NATHAN WHITE WITH MR. JOHN MCGEE ON DECK.
MY NAME IS NATHAN WHITE, LIFETIME RESIDENT, CURRENTLY SW PALM BAY AND CANDIDATE FOR PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL SEAT FOR LETTING THE ELECTION OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
I WANT TO START BY CLARIFYING THE COMMON MISCONCEPTION.
AMERICA IS, AS OUR CONSTITUTION EXPLAINS, A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.
AND THE L.A. TIMES IN 1992, MARVINS SIMPKIN SAID, DEMOCRACY IS NOT FREEDOM.
DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO EAT FOR LUNCH.
TRUE DEMOCRACY IS MOB RULE, THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY.
THANKFULLY, WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY, WE LIVE IN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.
SORRY TO BE SNEAKY, BUT MARVIN SIMPKINS FULL QUOTE WAS, DEMOCRACY IS NOT FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO EAT FOR LUNCH.
FREEDOM COMES FROM THE RECOGNITION OF CERTAIN RIGHTS WHICH MAY NOT BE TAKEN AWAY, NOT EVEN BY A 99 PERCENT VOTE.
WHAT IS ONE OF THOSE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS WHICH CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY? EVEN BY A 99 PERCENT VOTE.
I CANNOT OVERSTATE MY SURPRISE AND DISAPPOINTMENT WHEN I REALIZED THAT CITY HALL REQUIRED A REFRESHER COURSE ON THIS BASIC RIGHT.
THE ROLE OF THIS COUNCIL AND ALL OF THOSE IN CITY HALL.
LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO, WE CELEBRATED THE 240 FIFTH ANNIVERSARY OF NOT PUTTING UP WITH THAT KIND OF GOVERNANCE ANYMORE.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN PALM BAY.
THE YOUNGEST OF FOUR SIBLINGS.
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WE WERE NOT RAISED IN WHAT WOULD BE CALLED FINANCIAL PROSPERITY.ONLY RARELY DID WE HAVE WANTED, BUT THANKS TO MY WONDERFUL AND EVER FAITHFUL MOTHER, WE ALWAYS HAD WHAT WE NEEDED.
I WORKED. THIRTY NINE HOURS A WEEK WHEN I WAS A PART TIME EMPLOYEE, 50 WHEN I WAS A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE. AND I LEARNED.
WITH THIS BACKGROUND, WITH MY UPBRINGING, WITH MY WORK HISTORY.
THAT I CAN'T JUSTIFY SITTING BACK WATCHING THIS ALARMING ATTEMPTS TO TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTS OF NEARLY 90000 PALM BAY REGISTERED VOTERS TO ELECT THEIR REPRESENTATIVE UNDER THE GUISE OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.
ONE OF THE REASONS I DECIDED TO RUN WAS THE OBVIOUS LACK OF UNDERSTANDING WITHIN CERTAIN MEMBERS OF CITY HALL AND THE CONCEPT OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE REPORTED REASON FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
CLAIM IS THAT THE COST IS PROHIBITIVE.
CITING THAT THE LAST SPECIAL ELECTION COST AROUND EIGHTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND AS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, ANOTHER ONE WOULD COST AROUND A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THE COST JUMPED THAT MUCH IN TWO YEARS, I WOULD BE VERY CURIOUS TO FIND OUT. BUT.
I WILL SAY THAT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN EIGHTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS IS A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY. I WOULD ARGUE.
THAT'S IN CITY HALL, DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.
JUSTIFY PRIORITIZING IN A BUDGET OF OVER TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS.
THINGS LIKE OVER TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR STAFF TRAVEL.
AND TRAINING. JUST NINETEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN JULY.
TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND PLUS DOLLARS, BRAND NEW IPHONES AND TABLETS FOR STAFF.
AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A DISC GOLF COURSE.
OR TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A WATER SLIDE.
OVER THE RIGHT TO ELECT OUR LEADERS.
OVER THE WILL OF THE CLICHE, WE, THE PEOPLE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MOST OF THOSE ITEMS, IN FACT, BUT WHEN WE'RE WILLING TO SPEND MONEY ON ONE THING THAT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT, WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO SPEND MONEY ON ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR NATION.
THOSE BEHIND PUTTING THIS AGENDA ITEM ONTO THE AGENDA COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT REMOVED AS WELL. WHEN YOU RECEIVED OUR EMAILS OR OUR PHONE CALLS, BUT YOU DIDN'T.
IF THIS SUCCEEDS, IT WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN AND WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO KEEP YOU IN YOUR SEATS, THANK YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED.
JOHN MCGEE, FOLLOWED BY BONNIE MCGEE.
TOUGH ACT TO GO AHEAD OF, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU.
I SPEAK IN COMPLETE AND TOTAL OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ORDINANCE.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH FIFTY AMENDING THE CODE AND ORDINANCES CHAPTER 50 REGARDING ELECTIONS. THE CITY CHAJA CHARTER PROVIDES FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION TO FILL A SEAT OF ANY MEMBER WHO RESIGNS OR LEAVES THE COUNCIL, RESULTING IN AN OPEN SEAT.
THE ATTEMPTS BY CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL TO AMEND THE CHARTER ARE AN ASSAULT ON THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND OUR RIGHT TO ELECT THE OFFICE, TO ELECT PERSONS TO OFFICE WHO REPRESENT US, US IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
IT IS OUR BUSINESS TO DECIDE WHO AND IF WE REPLACE ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE ELECTED MR. BAILEY. IT IS OUR RIGHT TO ELECT HIS REPLACEMENT.
JUST. YOU STAND YOU STAND BEFORE US AND TELL US THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD TO HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE PROJECTED COST.
MY SIR, SIR, MY VOTES ARE NOT FOR SALE, AND I HOPE YOURS ARE NOT EITHER.
MR., THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE, THIS JUST DOESN'T SMELL RIGHT.
WHAT ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO DO?
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WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE FROM THE CITIZENS? I, FOR ONE, WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO PACK THIS CITY COUNCIL WITH YOUR PALS AND YOUR CRONIES.YOU HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO DENY THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY THEIR RIGHTS TO ELECT THEIR LEADERS, NO EXCEPTIONS.
MS. BONNIE MCGEE, FOLLOWED BY MS. BEECHER'S KALEEN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
THE FOLLOWING EXCERPTS THAT I'LL BE READING ARE FROM A FLORIDA TODAY ARTICLE PUBLISHED OCTOBER 27TH, 2020, AUTHORED BY RICK NEAL TITLED PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES VOW TO TACKLE POTENTIAL CORRUPTION AT CITY HALL CITY HALL.
CORRUPTION REMAINS FRESH IN THE MIND OF PALM BAY VOTERS.
ROB MEDINA SAYS HE SUPPORTS A FORENSIC AUDIT TO CLOSELY EXAMINE CITY HALL.
HE ALSO SUPPORTS CREATION OF A CITIZEN COMMITTEE TO OVERSEE CITY HALL.
I JUST WITNESSED MY GRANDSON'S LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL GAME, AND I SWEAR THERE'S MORE OVERSIGHT ON THAT BASEBALL FIELD THAN THAT LITTLE LEAGUE GAME THAT THERE IS WITHIN OUR CITY. RANDY FOSTER SAYS HE SUPPORTS MANDATORY ETHICS TRAINING FOR CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES, INCUMBENTS AND CITY HALL DEPARTMENT HEADS.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF ETHICS TRAINING THROUGHOUT MY CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND I HAD TO RETAIN A HIGH SET OF ETHICS AS A U.S.
MARSHAL REFERENCING MY TOP SECRET CLEARANCE, FOSTER SAID.
SO. AS I SHARE THESE EXCERPTS TONIGHT, THE ISSUE OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S ETHICS AND LEADERSHIP ONCE AGAIN HAVE COME TO THE FOREFRONT AS CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
WE ARE YET AGAIN CONFRONTED WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTEMPTING TO SUBVERT AND IGNORE THEIR CAMPAIGN PROMISES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
AFTER ACCEPTING THE RESIGNATION OF COUNCILMAN JEFF BAILEY, THE COUNCIL'S CHOOSING TO CONSIDER A PROPOSAL TO SUPERSEDE THE CITY ORDINANCE, WHICH DATES TO THE VACANCIES ON THE CITY COUNCIL, SHALL BE FILLED VIA A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD BETWEEN 90 AND 180 DAYS FOLLOWING THE DATE OF VACANCY OCCURRING.
I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH THE COST OF THE SPECIAL ELECTION AND ARE CONCERNED CONSIDERING THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND YOUR PROPOSAL TO SUPERSEDE THE CITY ORDINANCE.
GENTLEMEN, THIS PROPOSAL IS SIMPLY A THINLY VEILED ATTEMPT TO OBTAIN POWER AND CONTROL, IGNORING THE WILL OF THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS IN PALM BAY TO VOTE AND ELECT THEIR CITY COUNCIL. OUR RIGHT TO VOTE AND ELECT OUR REPRESENTATIVES IS PRICELESS AND WORTH EVERY PENNY AND EXPECT YOUR APPARENT CONCERN FOR COST SAVINGS, IT'S A NON-ISSUE.
MAYOR MEDINA, I AM UNAWARE OF THE CREATION OF A CITIZEN'S COMMITTEE TO OVERSEE CITY HALL.
THEREFORE, AS A RESIDENT AND VOTER OF PALM BAY, I AM BOUND BY CIVIC DUTY TO WATCH AND SAFEGUARD MY LIBERTIES AND RIGHTS AND THOSE OF MY FELLOW PALM BAY CITIZEN AND VOTERS.
WE CANNOT TOLERATE YOUR PROPOSAL AND WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO CIRCUMVENT THE ESTABLISHED ORDINANCE AND PROCEED WITHOUT THE REQUIRED SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE OPEN SEAT VACATED BY JEFF BAILEY. THANK YOU.
AND. THE SPEECHES WAS FOLLOWED BY MS. CHRISTINE FULLER SADULLAH.
SO WHO ARE THOSE THAT ARE ON DECK? PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY.
ONCE THE OTHER SPEAKER FINISHES, MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE MIC.
GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WHICH CURRENTLY REQUIRES A SPECIAL ELECTION IN THE EVENT OF A VACANCY ON THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO A MEMBER'S TERM EXPIRING.
INSTEAD, IT APPEARS THAT YOU AS A COUNCIL HAVE TAKEN IT UPON YOURSELVES TO UNILATERALLY APPOINT A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT ALTERING THIS ORDINANCE THUS DISENFRANCHIZING THE ENTIRE CITY OF PALM BAY BY NOT ALLOWING YOUR EMPLOYERS, WE, THE PEOPLE, TO RIGHTFULLY CHOOSE WHO WILL MAKE DECISIONS FOR OUR CITY.
MY UNDERSTANDING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I'M A NEW CITIZEN HERE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT UNDER OUR CHARTER, WE, THE PEOPLE ARE REQUIRED TO GAIN THE APPROVAL OF FIVE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION OF OUR CITY IN ORDER TO ALTER AN ORDINANCE.
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YET WITH THE SWIFT MOVE OF A CITY ATTORNEY, THEY'VE TAKEN IT UPON YOU OR YOU'VE TAKEN IT UPON YOURSELVES TO SUBVERT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.I'VE HEARD SOME REASONS OR EXCUSES FOR THIS MOVE ON YOUR PART COST VOTER TURNOUT PRECEDENT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVING DONE THE SAME THING.
BUT MY RESPONSE TO YOU IS, IF THE COST IS TOO GREAT TO ENACT AN EXISTING ORDINANCE THAT GRANTS A VOICE TO THE PEOPLE, THEN I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THERE IS A GROSS MISMANAGEMENT OF THE EXISTING BUDGET OF THE CITY.
AND I WOULD CALL FOR AN ADDITIONAL INDEPENDENT AUDIT.
IF VOTER TURNOUT IS A CONCERN.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT'S NOT YOUR ROLE.
IT'S OUR ROLE. IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
YOUR JOB IS TO FOLLOW YOUR CALL, YOUR DUTY, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
VOTER TURNOUT IS OUR CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IF WE DROP THE BALL, THEN WE HURT OURSELVES.
ANOTHER REASON CITED PRECEDENT.
OTHER MUNICIPALITIES PERHAPS HAVE FILLED SEATS IN THIS MANNER.
MY RESPONSE TO THIS IS SHAME ON THE PEOPLE WHO ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE PRECEDENT IS A POOR EXCUSE FOR THE PEOPLE TO ALLOW BUREAUCRATS TO DETERMINE THEIR DESTINY.
IT CAN END RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW.
THE TIME IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE ROT STARTS SMALL AND IN THE DARK, WHERE APATHY OF THE PEOPLE THRIVE, FREEDOM DIES.
SO I IMPLORE YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO ACT WITH ALL WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT BEFORE SUCH MATTERS AS YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE.
THIS, CHRISTINE, FOLLOWED BY MS. CARE FOR YOU. SO WHAT WE'RE HEARING THUS FAR IS.
YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON FREEDOM WELL.
MY NAME IS CHRISTINE SCHULER, AND I'M NOT REALLY GOOD AT SPEECHES, BUT I DISAGREE WITH ALL THIS. I THINK THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT COSTS, IT'S NOT YOUR WALLET.
IT'S THE TAXPAYERS THAT PAY THIS AND THAT.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
I THINK I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE.
THANK YOU. AND IF WE FOLLOWED BY CRYSTAL FLORAS.
I WAS GOING TO START OFF BY SAYING I'M BILL BATTEN, BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SPEAK SO MUCH, I AM KAREN FOR 550 ROAD.
I AM HERE TO TALK ON THE ORDINANCE CHANGE.
OUR COUNSEL WAS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT US.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT OTHER CITIES DO.
WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHAT ORLANDO DOES OR MELBOURNE DOES? I WANTED TO LIVE LIKE THEY DO.
DON'T YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE JUST MOVED THERE? I MEAN, COME ON, THIS IS PALM BAY.
WE HAVE OUR OWN REPRESENTATIVES.
BUT YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING US WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO CHANGE OR SUBVERT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE WANT TO BE HEARD.
AND THE WAY THE ONLY WAY WE REALLY GET HEARD IS THROUGH OUR VOTE.
WHEN YOU REFUSE TO LET US EXERCISE OUR RIGHT, YOU ARE STOMPING ON OUR FREEDOMS, THE FREEDOMS THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON, THE RIGHT TO VOTE, NOT TO BE RULED.
AND THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING BY SAYING LET US PICKET.
WE WANT TO ATTACK IT THE WAY WE WANT.
NO, THIS IS OUR RIGHTS TO TELL YOU WHO WE WANT.
PLEASE DO THE HONOR TO THE PEOPLE, TO ALL OF US OF RESPECTING OUR RIGHTS TO.
TELL YOU, WHOEVER RUNS, THAT'S ON THEM, THE COST, REALLY.
WE'VE HAD COSTS ON A POOL THAT EXCEEDED THIS.
WE'RE COSTING OURSELVES TO PUT ROADS DOWN BECAUSE THE CITY COULDN'T DO IT.
MR., BAILEY, YOU'VE BEEN AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF US TO FOLLOW.
YOU HAVE THEM THROUGH THE YEARS YOU'VE BEEN THE LONGEST SERVING.
I'M NOT KNOCKING ANYBODY ELSE.
WHAT I'M SIMPLY SAYING IS THE CONSERVATIVE VOICE UP THERE WATCHING OUR DOLLARS, THE MAP THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO DO IS PHENOMENAL WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT.
SO I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
YOU WERE ALL ELECTED AND REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE ALL UP HERE BECAUSE WE CHOSE YOU.
WHY DO YOU NO LONGER TRUST US TO CHOOSE WHO WOULD BEST REPRESENT US? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VASCO FLORES, FOLLOWED BY ABRAHAM FLORES.
I'M GOING TO LOOK AT MY PAPER BECAUSE I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.
THEN. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY FOR OVER TWENTY SIX YEARS.
I LOVE THE COMMUNITY, AND I LOVE THE WAY WE FIGHT FOR OUR PEOPLE.
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I'M STANDING HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY CONCERNS AND RIGHTS FOR OUR CITY.WELL, I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE PETITIONED FOR A NO VOTE FOR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IT WOULD HELP WITH THE BUDGET.
WE THE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST.
WHAT I PROPOSE IS A BUDGET MEETING THAT BREAKS DOWN THE AREAS ON WHICH WE CAN HOLD OFF TO MAKE ROOM FOR THIS SPECIAL ELECTION AND TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS FOR US TO VOTE AS A MOTHER OF TWO TEENAGE BOYS RIGHT THERE.
AND I ACTUALLY HAVE MY NIECE HERE AND MY NIECE THERE ARE 10 YEARS OLD WATCHING ONLINE TODAY. WE BELIEVE THAT RAISING THEM WITH INTEGRITY AND PUTTING PEOPLE FIRST IS THE BEST THING TO DO. WE LIVE OUR LIVES THIS WAY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE TEACH OUR CHILDREN THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, THE DO'S AND DON'TS.
IN THESE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY HAVE ASKED SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY PEOPLE MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE.
AND IT HAS BEEN SOME HARD CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE.
BUT IT'S BEEN A JOY TO SAY THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS ALWAYS HAD OUR BEST INTERESTS IN HAND WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING.
THIS WEEK, WE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT A FEW PEOPLE DECIDED TO TAKE THEIR VOICE AWAY BY DECIDING THAT THEIR VOICE IS NOT VALUABLE BECAUSE OF MONEY.
WE ARE VERY HONEST WITH OUR CHILDREN AND CONTINUE TO DO SO.
WE NEVER SPEAK HARSHLY ABOUT YOU.
WE PRAY FOR OUR CITY, FOR PEOPLE TO RISE UP AND FIGHT FOR WHAT WE KNOW IS RIGHT.
MY BOYS CAN TELL YOU IF IT'S RIGHT, IT'S RIGHT.
TODAY I STAND HERE ASKING YOU ALL TO PRAYERFULLY SEEK YOUR OWN HEART OUT AND HOW YOU WOULD FEEL LIKE A CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT CITY OF PALM BAY.
REMOVE YOUR TITLES, YOUR POSITION AND BEING ON PLATFORM THAT WE, THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR YOU TO BE IN TO ASK YOURSELVES, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL KNOWING THAT I WON'T HAVE A SAY ON WHO MAKES CHOICES FOR MY CHILDREN'S COMMUNITY THAT THEY SO LOVE? LET'S NOT FOLLOW THE PATTERN OF OUR NATION BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE FEELING THE PRESSURE TO DO SO. THIS IS A TIME TO TRUST GOD AND KNOW THAT HE HAS YOU COVERED.
I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT REST IN HIM KNOWING THAT HE HAS YOU COVERED.
AND I'D LIKE TO READ ONE OF MY FAVORITE PASSAGES AND I KNOW MY TIME IS ALMOST UP, BUT IT'S MATTHEW. ELEVEN TWENTY EIGHT VERSE TWENTY TO THIRTY.
ARE YOU WORN OUT. AND I'M SORRY I'M GOING TO KEEP ON GOING.
COME TO ME, GET AWAY WITH ME AND YOU'LL RECOVER YOUR LIFE.
I'LL SHOW YOU HOW TO TAKE A REAL REST.
WALK WITH ME AND WORK WITH ME.
BUT I HOPE YOU HEAR MY HEART FIND REST IN HIM.
THANK YOU GOD. MR. ABRAHAM, FOLLOWED BY MARY LOU RUSS.
MR. ABRAHAM, FOLLOWED BY MARY LOU RUSS.
MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS HERE TODAY.
MY NAME IS ABRAHAM FLORAS AND THAT WAS MY WIFE, VERY PROUD OF HER.
MY FAMILY AND I LIVE IN NW PALM BAY.
AND I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK TODAY ON BEHALF OF PASTOR KENNETH DELGADO, PASTOR OF THE HOUSE CHURCH IN PALM BAY. HE'S CURRENTLY OUT OF STATE, BUT IF HE COULD BE HERE, HE WOULD.
HE'S HERE IN HEART TODAY, AS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE TODAY PROTESTING THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN MY VOICE WITH THEIRS AND REMIND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE TASKED WITH REPRESENTING THE INTERESTS OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY ARE NOT PREPARED TO GIVE UP THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR WHO SITS ON THIS COUNCIL, EVEN IF THE PERSON WHO GETS VOTED IN WAS WHO THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE SELECTED ANYWAY.
EVERY CITIZEN, EVERY CITIZEN SHOULD BE CONCERNED AND TROUBLED.
WHEN A PROPOSITION IS MADE TO OVERLOOK THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND THE ROLE WE PLAY AS CITIZENS, THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY WANT THEIR RIGHT TO REMAIN INTACT AND THE REPUTATION OF INTEGRITY TO BE KEPT BY THIS COUNCIL.
THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS UN-AMERICAN AND IT OFFENDS THE SPIRIT OF THIS GREAT NATION.
THE REST FOLLOWED BY MS. JANICE CRISP, THANK YOU, MARY LOU RUSSELL WESTBROOK DRIVE IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
WE THE PEOPLE, RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAVE THE RIGHT TO ELECT ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. WITH RECENT ELECTIONS TO THE PALM BAY, OFFICIALS ARE MAKING GREAT STRIDES TO MOVE BEYOND THE DISREPUTABLE REPUTATION PALM BAY HAS HAD FOLLOWING ORDINANCE.
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FIFTY 50 FIVE REINFORCES YOUR COMMITMENT TOWARD HAVING AN OPEN AND HONEST GOVERNMENT FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND PROSPERITY OF THE CITY.I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN USING THE SCARE TACTIC OF THE EXPENSE OF A SPECIAL ELECTION TO OVERRIDE THE RIGHTS OF RESIDENTS.
ORDINANCE FIFTY FIFTY FIVE HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 2012, AND I HEARD THAT IT WAS PASSED WITH 64 PERCENT OF THE VOTE.
SO THE CITY GOVERNING BODY SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED THAT TYPE OF EXPENSE OCCURRING AND PLANNED AHEAD WITH BUDGETING.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION.
THOSE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE AND THE APPOINTED GOVERNING BODY OF PALM BAY NEED TO HONOR THE CITY ORDINANCES AND NOT BECOME A DICTATORSHIP FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL AGENDAS.
THE STANDARDS, CHRIS, FOLLOWED BY RUTH, COUPLE OF OLD.
MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU, AS I'M NOT A SUZANNE HERE, BUT A BUSINESS OWNER AND PALM BAY, I'M JUST HERE TO REMIND THE CITIZENS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND BAHU, MY CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY CONFIRMS THAT IT'S FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WHO SUPPORT THIS ATTEMPT TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE BY DENYING THE SPECIAL ELECTION THAT IS CALLED FOR IN THE CHARTER.
THEY CLAIM IT'S TO SAVE MONEY, BUT I CLAIM THAT IS A BALD FACED LIE THAT COULD CHANGE THE PROCESS TO REMOVE THE PRIMARY IN EVERY ELECTION, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IN EVERY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTY AND SAVE MONEY EVERY TWO YEARS.
THEIR ORDINANCE IS A BOLD POWER GRAB BY CORRUPT COUNCIL THAT STILL HAS TIES TO THE PAST ADMINISTRATION THAT IS TRYING TO HIDE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LOST, THE VERY STAFF THAT THEY WILL CLAIM ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD, OR THE STAFF THAT HELPED THE PAST ADMINISTRATION TO HARDEN.
AND OUR INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC AND AUTHORITIES THAT LED THE AUDIT THAT STILL HAS NO REAL RESOLUTION.
WE FOUND OURSELVES HERE DUE TO MR. BAILEY ANNOUNCEMENT OF A RESIGNATION, WHICH HE HAS NOT OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED TO THE TO MY LAST CHECK. HOWEVER, THIS MEMBER WHO HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE FDLE BECAUSE OF HIS TAKING MONEY FOR HIS CAMPAIGN FOR MR. AGUILAR AND NEVER REPORTING IT AND ALSO PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, HAS ADMITTED ADDICTION FROM A PLACE KNOWN FOR ITS PROSTITUTION AND OTHER LEGAL ACTION SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN RAN FOR OFFICE, IN MY OPINION.
THEN WE HAVE A MEMBER WHO HAS ALREADY GIVEN ETHICS VIOLATIONS BY A PREVIOUS GOVERNOR AND STATED JUST THIS WEEK HE DID NOT WISH TO HEAR FROM HIS VOTERS AND HAS VERY LITTLE EYE CONTACT. THIS VERY MEETING WITH THE VOTERS HERE WE HAVE THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHO IS NOT ONLY THE PREVIOUS MAYOR'S PUPPET THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH A SCAM TO BUY VOTES THAT SENT RON WEST, WELL-KNOWN DEVELOPER, TO JAIL.
THIS CURRENT MEMBER TOOK A THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM HIS NINE, THIS NINE ARRESTED DEVELOPER, THE LAST MEMBER WHO WAS CAUGHT UP IN THE SAME PAY FOR FOUR VOTE SCAM, ALONG WITH HIS COUSIN AND CAMPAIGN MANAGER, RAPIST ROBERT BURNS.
HE HAS A REST. HE WAS ARRESTED FOR SENDING NUDE PHOTOS OF HIMSELF TO A FEMALE STUDENT THAT HE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH.
HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO ACT INNOCENT BECAUSE OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS, DID WRONG, DID NOT WANT THE CHILD'S NAME AND DROP THE CHARGES.
HOWEVER, HE HAS BEEN BANNED FROM ALL BOVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR HIS ACTIONS AND ARREST.
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SEE THIS BUT A POWER GRAB.
THE AMOUNT OF ORDINANCE IS THEY CAN CHANGE BEFORE THE ELECTION IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO CAN BE DISASTROUS FOR THIS CITY THE SIZE OF PALM BAY.
MOST RESIDENTS ARE UNAWARE THAT PALM BAY IS VALUED INTO THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND COULD DOUBLE BY THE TIME THAT THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE OUT OF OFFICE.
THIS IS A BATTLE FOR WHO CONTROLS THE CHECKBOOK COUNCIL.
BE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GREAT DAY.
RUTH FOLLOWED BY TAYLOR GOOLSBY.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RITU SIX-FOLD, I RESIDE AT NINE THIRTY FIVE DOUGLAS STREET SE PALM BAY FLORIDA, THREE TO NINE OR NINE.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR MEDINA CONGRESS MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS MS. SHERMAN AND ALL STAFF AND CITIZENS OF PALM BAY IN ATTENDANCE AND ONLINE.
I'M A CHILD OF THE MOST HIGH GOD.
I'M A PERSON UNDER ROYAL PROVIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP AND EMPOWERMENT.
I AM THE EARTHLY DAUGHTER OF A UNITED STATES MARINE, THE WIFE OF THE UNITED STATES NAVY MAN AND WHO ALSO SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE.
I AM A CONSTITUTION COACH SERVING THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNTY OF BOVARD STATE OF FLORIDA WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN BAILEY AND HIS FAMILY FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF PALM
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BAY. I RESPECTFULLY AND STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT THE ORDINANCE TWO ZERO TO ONE DASH FIVE ZERO DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD AND BE WHOLEHEARTEDLY REJECTED.THE WORK OF AMENDING THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE STATED PURPOSES HAS NOT BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT A RESULT OF COUNCILMAN BAILEY RESIGNATION ANNOUNCEMENT.
THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS US TO SHIFT THE FOCUS OF THE CURRENT DUTIES IN OUR CITY IN AN ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE VOTING RIGHTS OF WE THE PEOPLE UNDER THE GUISE OF SAVING MONEY.
WE THE PEOPLE WILL LOSE OUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE OUR REPRESENTATIVE, AND THIS IS MORE VALUABLE THAN MONEY. THE CITY COUNCIL PALM BAY FLORIDA FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD IS ONLY BY THE PEOPLE AND NOT WHAT IS GOOD OR CONVENIENT OR PREFERABLE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT I JUST HEARD THERE THERE MIGHT BE TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS.
UNDESIGNATED THE PREAMBLE OF THE CITY CHARTER, A PALM BAY FLORIDA STARTS WITH WE THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, NOT WE, THE CITY COUNCIL OF THIS CITY, THE CITY CHARTER.
THE CITY CHARTER OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, SECTION 3.0 TO CITY COUNCIL COMPOSITION.
THERE SHALL BE A FIVE MEMBER COUNCIL CONSISTING OF A MAYOR AND FOUR OTHER MEMBERS WHO SHALL BE THE ELECTORS OF THE CITY NOT APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL.
IF THIS AMENDMENT IS ALLOWED TO PROCEED.
WE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED COUNCILMAN BAILEY TO HIS SEAT TO BE OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE HIS REPLACEMENT AND OUR VOICES WILL BE SILENCED AND OUR VOTES LOST.
I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT MY VOICE SILENCED.
I VOTED FOR COUNCILMAN BAILEY AND TRUSTED HIS JUDGMENT TO SERVE HONESTLY AND IS DONE SO.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DO NOT FEEL THE REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS DO NOT SHARE THE SAME VALUES AS THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
AMENDING THIS ORDINANCE NOW TO ALLOW THE REMAINING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO APPOINT A SUCCESSOR IS SUSPECT AND WRONG.
WHERE IS THE PROCESS FOR APPOINTING A COUNCIL MEMBER? HOW LONG DOES THE PROCESS TAKE? HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST? HOW WOULD SOMEONE BE CONSIDERED FOR THE APPOINTMENT? WHERE IS THE PLAYBOOK APPOINTING COUNCIL MEMBERS? WE, THE PEOPLE MUST SELECT OUR OWN SUCCESSOR TO THE VACANCY, VOTE NO TO ANY CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU.
TORRES-SPIVEY, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET GOOLSBY AND FOLLOWED BY RICHARD GOOLSBY.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR MEDINA, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
I MAY BE AN UNFIT AND INEXPERIENCED 18 YEAR OLD WHO JUST TURNED 18 THIS YEAR, BUT I FIND IT NOT JUST FOR TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT OF SPEECH.
MY ENTIRE LIFE, MY ENTIRE FAMILY AND ANYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD TOLD ME TO STAND UP FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN.
AND IF I AM TOLD THAT MY VOICE IS BEING SUPPRESSED BY PEOPLE THAT WE ELECTED.
THEN I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS THE CORRECT THING TO SHOW THE YOUNGER PEOPLE OF THIS GENERATION AND GENERATIONS TO COME, THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO USE OUR VOICES, THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN ANYBODY A VOICE, OUR HOLY GOD, WHO IS THE DIVINE CREATOR, WHO LET US HAVE A VOICE.
AND I AM EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND SHARE MY OPINION ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE WRONG OR THAT SHOULD BE FIXED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY MY 13 YEARS THAT I LIVED HERE AND IT HAS BEEN AMAZING.
AND OUR FOUNDING FATHERS DID NOT HAVE GOVERNMENT CREATED SO THAT OUR VOICES CAN BE SILENCED. THEY GAVE US THE RIGHT TO VOTE SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WE PUT IN THE POSITION OF POWER COULD LEAD OUR FUTURE INTO A BETTER SOCIETY, THAT THEY SAW MORE THAN WE EVER COULD. AND THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO SEE.
MS. WANT TO SAY MS. GOOLSBY ME AS AN 18 YEAR OLD, YOU SHOWED SO MUCH COURAGE MS. GOOLSBY STANDING UP HERE AND I COMMEND YOU FOR COMING UP HERE.
HELLO, AND I'M ALSO GOING TO READ JUST LIKE CRYSTAL.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS YOU THIS EVENING.
AND THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND COREY AS WELL.
I MEAN, SHE'S HOLDING UP THE THE HOME FRONT.
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AND I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH.I'M A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE CHURCH AND PALM BAY AND THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND THE CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERATED REPUBLICAN WOMEN IN ACTION THAT MEETS MONTHLY IN PALM BAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS PALM BAY CITY CODE ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 50 PALM BAY CITIZENS DO WANT YOU TO CHOOSE WISELY WHEN SPENDING OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
HOWEVER, WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO SUPPRESS OUR VOTE TO SAVE MONEY.
OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN MONEY.
THIS COUNCIL WAS VOTED IN TO DO THE JOB FOR THIS CITY.
THIS COUNCIL WAS NOT VOTED IN TO RELIEVE US OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHO REPRESENTS US. GEORGE WASHINGTON STATE HAD THE POWER UNDER THE CONSTITUTION WILL ALWAYS BE IN THE PEOPLE WHOM IT IS ENTRUSTED FOR SERVICE FOR CERTAIN DEFINED PURPOSES AND FOR A CERTAIN LIMITED PERIOD TO REPRESENT IT TO REPRESENTATIVES OF THEIR OWN CHOOSING.
AND WHENEVER IT IS EXECUTED, CONTRARY TO THEIR INTEREST OR NOT AGREEABLE TO THEIR WISHES, THEIR SERVANTS CAN AND UNDOUBTEDLY WILL BE RECALLED.
CITIZENS OF PALM BAY HAVE THE ABILITY, THE DIGNITY, THE FREEDOM AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CHOOSE OUR REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH MUST BE HONORED AND RECOGNIZED IN ORDER FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY TO CONTINUE TO TO CONTINUE THE STRENGTH AND PRIDE WE HOLD FOR OUR CITY, WE MUST BE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE OUR OWN REPRESENTATIVES AND NOT HAVE THEM CHOSEN FOR US. JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THIS YOU YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL OF YOUR CHOICE.
TO REPRESENT YOU IN GOVERNMENT WAS SUDDENLY SNATCHED AWAY, WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO TRUST THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ACTION? THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
RICHARD GOLDSBY, FOLLOWED BY MR. DALE DAVIS. THEY DON'T WANT A OF. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THIS, BUT I'M TALLER THAN SHE IS, BY THE WAY, THAT MY WIFE.
MY NAME IS RICHARD GOOLSBY AND I WAS BORN IN FLORIDA, BUT I WAS PLACED HERE BECAUSE I WAS IN THE AIR FORCE FOR 24 YEARS AND MY DAD GOT DEATHLY SICK AND I HAD TO COME HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE WAS.
SO I WAS NOT I WAS PLACED IN PALM BAY BECAUSE I REALLY ENJOYED IT WHEN WE DROVE BY.
WE LIVED HERE FOR A YEAR BEFORE WE BUILT A HOUSE AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO.
NORTH OF HERE, BECAUSE THIS WAS SO MUCH LIKE OUR HOMETOWN.
NOW TO THIS STATEMENT WITH THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY VOTE ON SITUATIONS WHERE MY CITY, MY CHURCH, MY HOME, MY FAMILY, MY TAXES AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CONCERNED ON EVERY ONE OF YOU RAN FOR THE SPECIFIC COUNCIL.
HOW DID YOU GET HERE? THE MAYOR DID NOT APPOINT YOU, EACH ONE OF YOU WERE CHOSEN BY WE, THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY BY A VOTE. IF ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS WAS FILLED BY THE PANEL PICKING SOMEONE, THAT WOULD END UP AS A GOOD OL BOY ELECTION AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WOULD BE RELATED IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER ON EVERY QUESTION OF THE CONSTITUTION OR I'M SORRY, OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PALM BAY CHARTER WAS ADOPTED.
RECOLLECT THE SPIRIT MANIFEST AND THE DEBATE AND INSIST ON TRYING WHAT MEANING MAY BE SQUEEZED OUT OF THE TEXT OR INVENTED AGAINST IT.
CONFORM TO THE PROBABLE ONE IN WHICH.
I ENTIRELY CONCUR IN THE PROPRIETY OF THE RESTORING OF THE SENSE IN WHICH PALM BAY CHARTER WAS ACCEPTED AND RATIFIED BY OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY AND THAT SENSE ALONE, IT IS A LEGITIMATE. CHARTER AND THAT BE NOT THE GUIDE AND EXPOUNDING AT THE THERE CANNOT BE NO SECURITY FOR A STABLE CHARTER MORE THAN FOR A
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FAITHFUL EXERCISE OF ITS POWER.JAMES MADISON, BOTH OF THESE QUOTES WERE ADOPTED FOR MY STATEMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. DALE DAVIS, FOLLOWED BY JOANNE SAWAKI.
IS IT STILL DAVID CELSI? WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER AND THEN WE'LL JUST CALL DALE BECKER.
OH, I'M JUST GOING TO WING IT.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, I JUST WANT TO BRING THE MIKE DOWN.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I SAID I'M JUST GOING TO WING IT.
SAW THE VIDEO YESTERDAY, AND IT PROMPTED ME TO WANT TO COME.
AND BASICALLY SAID, LISTEN, NOBODY I HAVE NO FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES, I DON'T HAVE ANY TIES, ANY PULL ANYWHERE IN PALM BAY.
GET CLOSER, GET THE CLOSER TO YOU.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT MY VOTE IS THE ONLY WAY MY VOICE IS HEARD. AND I, I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO LOSE THAT.
RIGHT. AND I REALLY FEEL THAT MR. BAILEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB.
AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE FOR SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE SAME VALUES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING.
SO SO MR. MR. DAVIS ISN'T HERE, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO JEAN BOURDON, FOLLOWED BY MR. BILL BURTON. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I'M A SECOND GENERATION AMERICAN AND I LIVING IN PALM BAY FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
AND THERE IS ONE THING THAT MY RECENTLY DECEASED FATHER IMPRESSED UPON ALL OF US, AND THAT IS IN AMERICA, WE HAVE FREEDOM.
AND WE GET TO CHOOSE THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT US.
THEY DON'T GET APPOINTED BY PEOPLE WHO WE ELECTED, THEY GET ELECTED BY WE THE PEOPLE.
THAT'S THE PROMISE THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS GAVE US.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY THE BEACON OF LIGHT ON THE HILL FOR EVERY OPPRESSED NATION AROUND THE WORLD AND ITS PEOPLE.
IT'S WHY THE PEOPLE IN CUBA ARE IN THE STREETS AGAINST COMMUNISM.
IT IS WHY THE PEOPLE IN MIAMI ARE STANDING FOR THE PEOPLE IN CUBA SCREAMING LIBERTAD.
THIS IS WHY MY ANCESTORS CAME HERE TO BE FREE OF TYRANNY.
AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO STRIP THAT FREEDOM AND OUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES FROM US.
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THANK YOU. MR. BILL BRATTON, FOLLOWED BY XAO WANG.
WOOLVERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, OR I START TO PRESENT THIS PORTION OF IT, I'VE REQUESTED BEFORE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK ON A FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
I NOTICED TONIGHT THAT SOMEBODY DID GET A FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT, BUT I DIDN'T REQUEST IT NIGHT. BUT I WAS TOLD UNLESS I WAS THE AGGRIEVED, I COULD NOT HAVE IT.
I'LL ADDRESS THAT IN THE FUTURE.
NO ONE NEVER GIVE UP YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE.
ITEM TWO OTHER CITIES HAVE SIMILAR ORDINANCES, THEN YOU SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE TO THAT CITY IF YOU THINK YOU SHOULD CHANGE IT FOR US.
I LIKE THE ABILITY TO VOTE FOR MY REPRESENTATIVES.
THAT MEANS THAT I AM NOW A PART OF THE PLAYING PARTY.
AUGUST SIX IS WHEN COUNCILMAN BAILEY MILLION, THAT LEAVES UP UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST TO HAVE A PERSON SITTING IN HIS PLACE AS THIS CURRENT IS THIS NEW ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT TO BE ACCOMPLISHED, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING INTO HOW THE PROCESS IS GOING TO RUN.
IF YOU LOOK AT ITEM 50 50 IN THE ORDINANCE, IT STATES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE
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ABILITY TO REQUEST A SPECIAL ELECTION IF THEY DEEM THE NEED WOULD ARISE.STRANGER TAKING IT AWAY FROM US.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO IMPOSE ONE ON THE RESIDENTS.
WHY WAS THAT ADDED INTO THIS ORDINANCE? SO THERE'S NO THERE IS NO NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS CURRENT ORDINANCE.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NEVER GIVE UP YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE.
MS. WEIGHING ALL OF BY MS. CAROL THE HUSKEY.
HI, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. AND THE COUNCIL, 31 AM AN IMMIGRANT FROM CHINA.
CITIZENS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE IN CHINA AND ALL THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARE APPOINTED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RULING PARTY STAYS IN POWER FOREVER.
AND THE ONE THING THAT MAKES AMERICANS SO GREAT IS DEMOCRACY.
AND EVERY CITIZEN HAS A VOTE AND SEE WHAT WHO WHO GOVERNS AND THE RIGHT TO WHAT VOTE IS THE HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
CANCELING THE ELECTION BECAUSE OF COSTS IS DANGEROUS.
WHAT'S NEXT? DO WE CANCEL ALL THE ELECTIONS BECAUSE THAT THEY ARE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE? HISTORY SHOWS THAT THIS IS NOT AS SILLY AS YOU SOUND.
AND REPRESENTATION ON CITY COUNCIL IS DECIDED BY NONPARTISAN BOULT DOING THE DOING AWAY WITH THE SPECIAL ELECTION IS AN INVITATION TO ATTEND THE NONPARTISAN DEMOCRACY DEMOCRATIC PROCESS INTO RULE BY AN ELECTED PARCHESTER MOB.
WE SHOULD DECLINED THE INVITATION ELIMINATED IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION IS SHORT SIGHTED AND IS BAD TO EVERYONE.
ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD BE ELECTED BY VOTERS, ANYTHING LESS DIMINISH THE DEMOCRACY ITSELF. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SALES OF HUSKEY FELL BY MR. DAVID MORRIS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS CAROL VYSOTSKY.
I'M A RESIDENT OF SOUTH MELBOURNE.
THE REASON THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT IS, ALTHOUGH I'M A MELBOURNE RESIDENT, I DON'T CONSIDER THIS TO JUST BE A PALM BAY ISSUE.
I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A NATIONAL ISSUE.
IF A CITY COUNCIL IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA, CAN VOTE TO REVERSE AN ORDINANCE WHICH STATES THAT A SPECIAL ELECTION IS TO BE HELD AT THE EXACT TIME THAT A SEAT IS ABOUT TO BECOME VACANT, THEN WHAT IS TO STOP ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER IN A LIBERAL DISTRICT OR A CONSERVATIVE DISTRICT, FROM DOING THE SAME AND SQUASHING THE VOICE OF THE VOTERS? YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THE TIMING OF THIS LOOKS AWFULLY SINISTER.
YOU ARE CONSIDERING CHANGING THE RULES TO CUT OFF THE VOTES OF AN ENTIRE CITY.
THE ORLANDO NEWS STATIONS ARE ALREADY COVERING THIS STORY.
I BELIEVE THIS WILL BECOME A NATIONAL NEWS STORY AND YOU ALL WILL BECOME THE THE FACES OF VOTER SUPPRESSION IN OUR NATION.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DYNAMICS AND THE TIMING OF THIS AND SAY, OH, HOW CONVENIENT. SO I URGE YOU TO LEAVE THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS AND LET THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY VOTE. THANK YOU.
THIS THE DAVID MORRIS, FOLLOWED BY MR. RANDY WICKENS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
MY NAME IS DAVID MORRIS, LIVE ON WILKENSON AVENUE IN SOUTHEAST, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT SIT HERE AND THINK ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW ME PERSONALLY, BUT I WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR PERSONS INVOLVED IN THE STORMWATER RECALL RECORD.
THE PETITION THAT WENT ON THINKING ABOUT THIS AND HAVING ALL THAT INFORMATION AT MY HAND, RECALLS COME TO MIND.
YOU GET THE TAIL OR YOU GET TAIL, YOU GET THE TIGER.
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RIGHT. SO I'D BE A MAN ON A MISSION.MAN ON FIRE, BECAUSE MY RIGHT TO VOTE IS PRICELESS.
CORRUPTION IS WENT ON IN THIS CITY.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GAVE US THE WRONG FORMS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE THEY DIDN'T EVEN REFUND OUR MONEY FROM IT.
JUST THINK ABOUT THAT PENNIES.
BUT THE CITY HAS TO HAVE THE MONEY.
AND THESE ACTIONS MAKE ME THINK THAT MAYBE I SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS.
OK, SOMEBODY THAT HAS ETHICS, SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE A CONSCIOUS DECISION IS WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG AND WHAT'S WHAT'S BEST FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT PUT ME IN PLACE. BAILEY, YOU COULD END THIS TOMORROW OR RESIGN TONIGHT.
I MEAN, BE A MAN OF CHARACTER AND DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO FOR US.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THIS, BUT I AM PISSED OFF, ALL RIGHT.
I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THE NONSENSE, ENOUGH OF ENOUGH OF JUST GIVING OUR MONEY AWAY BECAUSE WE'RE A NICE CITY. ENOUGH OF ALL THE STUFF THAT'S WENT ON FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS.
I MOVED HERE IN THE FIRST THING THAT WE FOUND OUT ABOUT WAS GARBAGE CANS WE'RE BUYING.
I MEAN, THIS IS INSANITY AND IT'S GOT TO STOP AND THIS INCISION'S GOT TO BE BASED ON WHAT'S BEST FOR US, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU IS COUNCIL MEMBER.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.
MR. RANDY WICKENS, FOLLOWED BY MICHALI BEACH.
BUT DIDN'T GENTLEMEN, RANDY WICKENS, A LOT OF GREAT SPEAKING TONIGHT, PEOPLE HAVE PREPARED SOME GREAT STUFF.
I HAVEN'T DONE THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF SHOOT FROM THE HIP HERE.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO WISH MR. BAILEY BEST WISHES IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY.
COUNCIL MEMBER IS AN ELECTED POSITION, YOU GUYS HEARD THAT, RIGHT? ELECT DID NOT APPOINTED A LEIK.
DID WE CHOOSE WHO SERVES US? THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS.
NOW, I'VE DONE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
I WAS TRYING TO SEE WHO WAS BEHIND THIS, WHOEVER OR WHOMEVER, HOWEVER MANY OF YOU THERE WERE INVOLVED IN THIS.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE NO PAPER TRAIL.
I JUST WONDER WHY ARE YOU GUYS THINK THIS? OK, WHY WON'T YOU STAND UP AND SAY, I'M SUPPORTING THIS, I WANT THIS.
WHY DO YOU GUYS FEEL YOU HAVE TO HIDE? WHY IS THIS BEING ON US? WHO'S BEHIND IT? STEP UP AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO VOTE.
SAY IT. IF THE STONES DIDN'T THINK SO, YOU GUYS REPLACE THE ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS PROBABLY BEEN REMEMBERED AS ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT, DISHONEST, LYING ADMINISTRATIONS THAT SAT UP ON THIS DAY IS A LONG TIME.
YOU GUYS CAN BE BETTER THAN THAT.
YOU GUYS HAD THAT CHOICE RIGHT NOW.
YOU GUYS CAN GO ONE OF TWO WAYS HERE, GO THE RIGHT WAY.
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
WE DO NOT HAVE APPOINTED LEADERS TONIGHT.
CHARLENE BEACH FOLLOWED A MS., MARCIA ATKINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME THE CHANCE TO ADDRESS YOU AND JEFF BAILEY.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR TIME OF SERVICE.
I'VE SAID MANY TIMES IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER AND APPRECIATED YOUR INPUT.
SO I AM OPPOSED TO CHANGING THIS CHARTER THAT WE HAVE HERE.
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME IN OUR NATION, THERE'S SUCH A DEEP CONCERN THAT THE VOICE OF THE VOTERS WOULD BE HEARD.
SO I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT ASSUME TO KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT I WANT INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY WANTS.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE THE THE ASSUMPTION OF WHAT IT IS.
SO DO NOT ABUSE YOUR POWER THAT YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED TO TO SERVE US.
YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED TO SERVE US.
SO IN READING THE CITY ORDINANCE, I REALIZE THAT THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING HERE ABOUT WHEN JEFF WOULD RESIGN THAT WOULD CHANGE THE NEED FOR THAT SPECIAL ELECTION.
NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND IT ALL, BUT I IMPLORE YOU TO INVESTIGATE THAT BECAUSE.
THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION TO COME IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION, I BELIEVE, AND I'M ASKING YOU TO DO YOUR PART TO BOTH SAVE THE CITY MONEY AND ALLOW THE VOICES TO BE HEARD IN THE FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE.
THERE'S OFTENTIMES CREATIVE ANSWERS THAT ALLOW BOTH THINGS TO HAPPEN, OUR FREEDOM, OUR
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VOICES AND THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS.THIS MARKET, THE EKINS, FOLLOWED BY MR. FITZGERALD LAWRENCE. HI, MY NAME IS MARCY ADKINS AND I LIVE AT 20, 55, VALKYRIE, A ROAD VAL CAREA, SO I TOO AM NOT PALM BAY RESIDENT, BUT I'M HERE FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, I GO TO THE HOUSE CHURCH, WHICH IS LOCATED IN PALM BAY, AND MY PASTORS ARE OUT OF TOWN AND THEY ASKED EVERYONE IN THE CHURCH TO GO TO COME TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T BE HERE. SO THAT WAS THAT'S ONE REASON.
AND ANOTHER REASON IS THAT I'M A VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE FEDERATED REPUBLICAN WOMEN IN ACTION AND WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY A PALM BAY CLUB.
SO I SPEAK FROM THOSE TWO PERSPECTIVES.
I'M ALSO SOMEONE THAT'S LIVED IN SOUTH BOVARD SINCE 1967.
SO I HAVE A DEEP LOVE FOR THE WHOLE AREA, ALL OF SOUTH BOVARD.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE FOR FROM TWO PERSPECTIVES.
I'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF QUOTES ABOUT VOTING AND I REALLY LIKED ONE THAT JOHN LEWIS SAID THE VOTE IS PRECIOUS.
AND I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH JOHN LEWIS, I DON'T NEED TO SAY THE WHOLE QUOTE, BUT I WANT TO JUST FOCUS ON THE IDEA OF THE VOTE BEING SACRED BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH HIM, BECAUSE I THINK THE VOTE IS SACRED AND THE VOTE THE WORD SACRED.
I LOOKED IT UP IN THE OXFORD DICTIONARY AND IT SAYS CONNECTED WITH GOD.
OR DEDICATED TO A RELIGIOUS PURPOSE AND SO DESERVING VENERATION, BUT I KNOW FROM MY PASTOR KENNY THIS THIS SEASON WE'VE BEEN TALKING AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT GENESIS ONE AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON HOW THE FACT THAT THE LORD GAVE US DOMINION AND AUTHORITY OVER THE EARTH.
AND THEN I'M ALSO A CONSTITUTION COACH AND I'M TEACHING AND I'M HOSTING A CLASS ON BIBLICAL CITIZENSHIP NOW.
AND IN THAT I'M LEARNING EVERYTHING THAT OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED ON IS BIBLICAL.
IT GOES BACK TO THE OLD TESTAMENT.
IT'S A JUDEO-CHRISTIAN NATION.
AND AND GOD GAVE GOD ASKED US TO ELECT REPRESENTATIVES.
AND I BELIEVE AND I KNOW THAT OUR NATION IS FOUNDED ON THAT BASIS.
IT IS SACRED BECAUSE GOD GAVE US THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN GENESIS AND ALL THROUGH THE OLD TESTAMENT AND ON THAT OUR NATION'S FOUNDING.
THE SECOND THING I WISH TO SPEAK TO IS ECONOMICS.
I REALIZE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WRITES THAT SHE HER CONCERN IS ECONOMICS AND THE COST OF THE ELECTION. I THINK I FEEL LIKE THE VOTE IS SACRED.
AS AN ECONOMIST AND AS A PROFESSIONAL ECONOMIST, YOU DO A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, EVEN IF THE COST IS TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WHEN YOU BALANCE IT OUT WITH THE UNMEASURABLE VALUE OF A VOTE.
YOU BALANCE THE SCALES AND THE VOTE WINS.
OK, SO THAT'S ONE THING AND THE OTHER THING, I WOULD ALSO ASK, MR. MAYOR, THAT YOU RESPECTFULLY CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY PERHAPS OF HAVING THE COUNCIL SUGGEST THAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
OH, WELL, ANYWAYS, I'M OUT OF TIME.
THANK YOU. MR. FITZGERALD, FOLLOWED BY MR. DINNER, DENNIS BURAK, FITZGERALD LAUTZ, 39, ASHBORO ZIRKEL SE.
SO FAR, THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IS UNANIMOUS.
I BELIEVE WE ALL SAY NO TO THIS AND I HAVE ONE REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL.
LET THE PEOPLE VOTE, LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK, LET THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE BE HEARD.
AND AS FAR AS THE COST AS A CITIZEN OF THIS TOWN, I WOULD GLADLY PAY MY FAIR SHARE OF THE COSTS AS LONG AS I HAVE A VOICE.
MR. DENNIS, FOLLOWED BY MS. JACKIE. THIS IS JACKIE.
MY NAME IS DENNIS BORTAC AND I'VE LIVED HERE IN PALM BAY FOR OVER FORTY TWO YEARS.
AND BEEN THROUGH SOME THINGS LIKE THIS BEFORE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE PAUL.
BUT. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS WE'RE IN A US AND THEM.
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AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WORK, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT MORE OF THIS, A LOT MORE OF THE SAME, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH POWER BEHIND THESE VOICES.THAT YOU NEED TO RETHINK AND GO BACK AND RETHINK WHAT HAPPENED TO TURN YOU INTO THEM AND NOT US.
THANK YOU. YEAH, THIS IS THE ANTIBIOTIC I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT MR. LAWRENCE SAYS. HE SAID HE WILL PICK UP HIS SHARE OF THE COST, LESSEN THAT COST HAS BEEN PAID BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS.
I'M JACKIE BOWDICH, DENNIS'S WIFE.
WE HAVE LIVED IN PALM BAY AND HAVE RAISED OUR FAMILY IN PALM BAY AND WE LOVE THE CITY OR WE WOULDN'T STILL BE HERE.
I WAS RAISED TO BELIEVE THAT MY VOTE COUNTED IN MY FATHER TAUGHT ME TO BE AN EDUCATED VOTER, SO I KNEW WHAT I WAS VOTING FOR OR WHO I WAS VOTING FOR.
AND I I PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU GUYS DON'T TAKE THAT RIGHT AWAY FROM ME.
WE ARE ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND WE DESERVE TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD.
THANK YOU. LAURA CONNOR, LAURA CONNOR. ALL OF OUR MS., KATHERINE SCHERER DONNA.
YOU'RE BRINGING THE MONK DOWN, MAN, JUST A WEE BIT.
THANK YOU, MAN. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR. AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
FIRST, I WANT TO REMIND US ALL.
OF THIS SONG, GOD BLESS AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE.
WE THE PEOPLE, WANT OUR RIGHTS TO VOTE AND CHOOSE WHO IS TO REPRESENT US IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA, ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE WILL NOT LET ANYTHING STOP THIS.
OUR VOICES WILL NOT BE SILENCED.
WE VOTE NO TO ANY CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE.
GIVE US THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON THIS MATTER.
MS. KATHERINE, FOLLOWED BY MR. DOUGLAS FOR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.
I AM HUMBLED AND GRATEFUL FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CAPTURING ALL YOUR ATTENTION AND EYE CONTACT, BECAUSE I DO RECALL THE LAST TIME I SPOKE BEFORE A COUNCIL MEETING, I WAS IN NAPLES, FLORIDA.
ONE MEMBER SLEPT THROUGH THE ENTIRE MEETING AND ANOTHER MEMBER NEVER GAVE EYE CONTACT.
AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE VALUE OF HOW THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT THE CITIZENS.
SO I'M HERE THANKING YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND THEN I DO WANT TO SAY ANOTHER THING THAT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU WAKE UP. ONE DAY.
I WAS PLANNING A SPEECH TONIGHT THAT WENT OUT THE WINDOW WHEN I GOT HOME THIS AFTERNOON AND MY HUSBAND WAS PULLING A WOMAN OUT OF A CAR WHO HAD CRASHED INTO OUR OUR BUSHES.
AND I HAD NO TIME TO PREPARE, NO TIME.
SO MY SPEECH IS GOING TO CHANGE A LITTLE.
SO FORGIVE ME. I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
I'VE BEEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES, HAITI AND OTHER PLACES DURING UNREST AND DURING A LOT OF A LOT OF VIOLENCE AND PAIN.
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I ASK YOU ONE THING.I ASK YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND IF YOU CAME IN TODAY FEELING CERTAIN THAT YOU WANTED TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY.
TO A POINT I ASKED YOU TO PLEASE KEEP AN OPEN MIND, HEAR OUR VOICES AND SEARCH YOUR HEARTS AND THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF YOU FELT AS SECURE, IF THE REVERSE PLACES WERE SWAPPED, THEN IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
MANY PEOPLE WOULD FEEL THAT WAY, SO YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND TO CHANGE YOUR MIND AND GOD CAN SPEAK TO YOU OR WHOEVER YOUR HIGHER POWER IS IN ANY TIME, IN ANY WAY. AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE GONE TO DISASTERS FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, TO NEW YORK CITY TO, AGAIN, HAITI.
I'VE BEEN TO IOWA AND NEBRASKA DURING TORNADOES.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS AND EVERYBODY'S WORLDVIEW IS DIFFERENT.
BUT LET ME REMIND YOU THAT AT PRESENT AND FOR A VERY LONG TIME, IMMIGRATION IS ONLY GOING ONE WAY AND THEY'RE COMING HERE FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM.
AND OUR OUR RIGHT TO VOTE IS OUR MOST SACRED RIGHT.
AND THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF A SUFFRAGETTE AND MY GODFATHER WAS PART OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. AND I CHERISH THEM FOR THEIR COURAGE AND AND FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WANT IT TO BE FAIR AND JUST AND I ASK THAT YOU DO THE RIGHT THING FOR US, EVEN IF IT MIGHT NOT BE COMFORTABLE. WE'LL TRY AND RESPECT YOU AND REWARD YOU FOR GIVING THAT TO US.
AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
AND I RESPECT YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
AMERICA WAS THE FIRST FOLLOWED BY JAN SNYDER.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS A SECOND, RECOGNIZE A PALM BAY FIRE DEPARTMENT, I'VE BEEN A I STARTED OUT IN 79 FIREFIGHTER RESCUE AND I WORKED EMS FOR 25 YEARS.
AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, WHEN THEY SHOW UP ON SCENE, THEY PUT THE FIRE OUT.
MR. MAYOR, I GOT TO I'M KIND OF TRYING TO BE PREPARED.
I WASN'T READY, BUT I I KNOW THAT 70 80 WATERSIDE ROAD ASELTON AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
AND BEFORE THAT, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN THE AREA FOR NEAR 60 YEARS.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND GDC BEFORE THAT.
THIS REMINDS ME OF WHEN I WAS IN NCO IN THE ARMY, AND OFTEN I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I COME HERE, IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
WHY IS THAT? NOW, AS FAR AS DECIDING THAT YOU'RE JUST GOING TO PUT SOMEONE IN AN EMPTY SEAT BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S ALREADY AND PREDETERMINED TO SWING IN YOUR FAVOR.
HERE YOU PLAN ON CHANGING AN ORDINANCE TO BE MANIPULATED TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, JUST LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A SPECIAL VOTE, AT LEAST.
AND IF YOU DO SO, I AND I'M SURE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHERS THAT WILL BE RIGHT THERE IN THAT GROUP. THEY DON'T GET ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED IF NEED BE AND FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE, AND YOU SHOULD KNOW, AS IN THE PAST, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY LARGE GROUP AND LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE.
WELL, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE, THIS CITY BOARD AND THIS CITY HAS QUITE A HISTORY OF CORRUPTION AND PROBLEMS IN THE PAST.
AND WE HEAR YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE COST.
AND THERE'S A FEW OF YOU THAT CLAIM TO BE FOR THE PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING FOR YOUR SEAT. AND NOW WHAT? LOOK AT YOU. YOU'RE NOT FOR THE PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FOR, BUT YOU'RE NOT FOR THE PEOPLE ON INCLOSING.
SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS AS A COMBAT MEDIC, THERE IS A PRICE ON FREEDOM AND THERE IS A LOT OF THEM THAT HAVE PAID FOR IT WITH THEIR LIVES.
AND A LOT OF US ARE STILL PAYING FOR A LITTLE EVERY DAY.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU, THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY, THE TERMINAL AT NEW.
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JAN SNYDER, FOLLOWED BY MARIA FUJAIRAH.HELLO, MY NAME IS DAN SNYDER, AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TONIGHT AND I HAVE A VERY SHORT SENTENCE.
THE VACANT SEAT IS AN ELECTED POSITION.
IT SHOULD BE FILLED BY AN ELECTED REPLACEMENT OR THE PEOPLE'S VOICE IS SQUELCHED.
AND YOU CAN BET THE PEOPLE'S EYES WILL BE ON YOU.
WE HAVE TO GET FOLLOWED BY AMANDA ROSEN FROM.
ALL RIGHT, SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, JEFF BAILEY, AND THE TIME THAT YOU SERVED US.
I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A HISTORY LESSON.
RIGHT, BECAUSE HOW DID WE START THIS FOUNDATION? IF WE GO BACK TO THE FEDERALIST PAPER NUMBER 61, WHICH IS ACTUALLY BY OUR FOUNDER, THIS IS ALEXANDER HAMILTON.
THE MORE CANDID OPPOSERS OF THE PROVISIONS RESPECTING ELECTIONS CONTAINED IN THE PLAN OF CONVENTION. WHEN PRESSED, AN ARGUMENT WILL SOMETIMES CONCEDE PROPRIETORY OF THE PROVISION. WITH THIS QUALIFICATION, HOWEVER, THAT IT OUGHT TO HAVE BEEN ACCOMPANIED WITH THE DECLARATION THAT ALL ELECTIONS SHOULD BE HAD IN THE COUNTIES WHERE THE ELECTION RESIDED. OK, SO BOVARD COUNTY WAS FOUNDED AND MARCH 14TH, 1844.
WE ARE THE LARGEST CITY IN THE DISTRICT.
IN THE COUNTY. WE ARE GROWING BY THE GROWNS AND.
WE BELIEVE IN CHECKS AND BALANCES, OUR FOUNDING FATHERS BELIEVED IN CHECKS AND BALANCES, THESE BALANCES RECORD NOT ONLY MY VOTE IN MY VOICE.
BUT OTHER APPROXIMATELY NINETY THOUSAND VOICES AS WELL AS YOU HEARD HERE.
WHEN WE ELECT OUR OFFICIALS, THERE ARE EYES, OUR EARS, OUR VOICES FOR THE CITY, THEY TOOK AN OATH IN PUBLIC OFFICE TO BE THAT VOICE BY CHANGING AN OFFICIAL ORDINANCE AGAINST YOUR CONSTITUENTS. YOU'RE ACTING OUTSIDE OF YOUR OATH.
MAYOR RESOLVE AND THE INTEGRITY OF US CHOOSING WISELY, WE DO NOT WANT THE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE, WE WANT TO BE HEARD AND WE WANT THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
AMANDA ROSEN FRID FOLLOWED BY BUTCHERING.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMANDA ROSEN FREED.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE.
I HAVE LIVED IN PALM BAY FOR EIGHT MONTHS.
I ACTUALLY CHOSE TO MOVE MY FAMILY HERE NOT KNOWING ANYONE FROM COLORADO FOR A BETTER LIFE. COLORADO, AS YOU KNOW, IS GOING THROUGH SOME STUFF.
I FOUGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS, PARENTAL RIGHTS IN COLORADO.
AND I WILL FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS HERE IN PALM BAY AS WELL.
I'M A FORMER GOVERNMENT AND LAW TEACHER.
I REGISTERED MY SENIORS TO VOTE IN ALL OF MY CLASSES.
I AM HIGHLY EDUCATED AND I'M QUALIFIED.
I CURRENTLY HOMESCHOOL AND TEACH MY CHILDREN THE VALUE OF OUR VOTE.
YOU ARE TO FOLLOW THE RULES SET BEFORE US.
WE MUST FOLLOW THEM AND NOT CHANGE TO FIT OUR AGENDA, ESPECIALLY IN A CHARGED ATMOSPHERE.
GIVEN OUR CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION.
WHEN WE READ ABOUT THIS BEING COST PROHIBITIVE, I WONDER WHAT THAT SAYS TO OUR FELLOW AMERICANS WHO ARE STILL REELING FROM 2020 AND FEELING LIKE THEIR VOTES DIDN'T MATTER.
I HAVE TWO CHILDREN, NINE AND 11.
I TEACH IN A HOMESCHOOL CO-OP.
WE HAVE TO BE THE LEADERS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
THANK YOU. BUT IRAN FOLLOWED BY MR. RANDALL CHAYEFSKY. WAS AROUND 219 TRENTON AVENUE.
DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S GOT GOING ON, SO I'M JUST GOING TO COVER THE MIKE.
FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS TALK TO THE GUYS BEHIND ME.
IT WOULD BE AMAZING TO COME TO ONE OF THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
WHEN THERE'S A SMALL AGENDA AND HAVE THIS KIND OF TURNOUT.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THAT'S WHY THESE THINGS GO ON.
YOU HAVE TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
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THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY TO HIM NOW, 23 YEARS IN THE MILITARY, PROTECTING THE RIGHT TO VOTE FROM VIETNAM TO DESERT STORM.THE BLOOD THAT WAS LEFT FOR THAT RIGHT.
YOU GUYS NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING, PULL THE DAMN THING OFF AND LET THESE PEOPLE GET HOME. THANK YOU.
PLAN TO ALSO BE FOLLOWED BY TONY HAWK, TONY HAWK.
COUNCIL, RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, THREE FORTY EIGHT BRAKHAGE STREET NE.
NOW, BEFORE TODAY'S MEETING, WHAT I'VE HAD TIME TO DO WAS CLOSE ON THAT HOME AT THREE, FOUR, EIGHT BROOMHEAD STREET NE.
I JUST CLOSED OFF MY NEW HOME TODAY.
BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION, I'M NOT BRAGGING, I'M JUST BRINGING ATTENTION TO HOW MANY IMPACT FEES I PAID JUST ME AND MY NEIGHBORS COULD PROBABLY PAY FOR THIS ELECTION, WHICH OF COURSE, I SAY. AND JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T PAY FOR IT WITH IMPACT FEES.
BUT MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE, KATY, ALLOWED ME TO ESCAPE OUR JUBILATION IN OUR NEW HOME FROM OUR HOUSE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM CITY COUNCIL CITY HALL, WHERE HER AND MY DAUGHTER DO CARTWHEELS IN THE BIG EMPTY HOUSE TO COME HERE AND REPRESENT THE REASON THAT WE ARE IN THIS CITY NOW. MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE AND I, WE MET IN THE HALLS OF PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL.
WE GREW UP TOGETHER. WE MADE THE CHOICE IN OUR COLLEGE YEARS TO MOVE AWAY TOGETHER AS A TEAM. AFTER THAT, WE MADE THE CHOICE TO MOVE BACK HERE TO OUR HOME.
PALM BAY TO START OUR LIFE TOGETHER.
FIRST TIME WE CHOSE TO COME TO PALM BAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT, I HAD A WORK OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS GOING TO ALLOW ME TO PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY GREATER MY WIFE'S STAY AT HOME MOM OR A SINGLE INCOME FAMILY.
WE WENT WHERE WE NEEDED TO GO.
WE SPENT A FEW YEARS IN PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, VERY, VERY CHILLY.
SECOND TIME WE MOVED BACK TO PALM BAY.
WE CHOOSE TO TAKE A LOT, A PATCH OF DIRT, NOTHING BUT WOODS, WHICH USED TO ERECT A HOUSE ON IT, INCREASE THE TAXABLE VALUE AND PAY OUR TAXES YEAR IN, YEAR OUT FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFE. WE'RE GOING TO BE CITIZENS.
PALM BAY MY FIVE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, I HOPE, AND THIRTEEN YEARS IS AS BRAVE AS THIS.
EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD YOUNG LADY WHO CAME UP HERE, WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR THIRTEEN YEARS TO FIGHT FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT HER FATHER STANDS HERE RIGHT NOW TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT.
NOW, YOU'RE VERY LUCKY, A CITY COUNCILMAN.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE THROWING STONES AT YOU AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT IN ORDER TO DO THIS JOB, YOU GET THE THE THE GIFT OF THREE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT ARE TO GUIDE YOUR EFFORTS.
LET'S START AT THE TOP NATIONAL THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET'S COME TO THE STATE LEVEL, THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION.
LET'S COME TO THE CITY LEVEL, THE CITY CHARTER IN THE BOOK OF ORDINANCES.
NOW, IF YOU'RE TO ABUSE ANY OF THOSE, WHAT THAT SHOWS IS THAT THESE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE, THE DEMO IN DEMOCRACY, I REMEMBER DEMO TRANSLATED DEMOCRACY WITHOUT THE PEOPLE.
WHAT IS A DEMOCRACY? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO THIS ON THE FLY IN THE NAME OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
WHEN I AM NOT USING HEARSAY, WHEN I STATE THAT THIS CITY ENDED UP WITH A UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE OF TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.
SEVENTEEN MILLION DOLLARS THE YEAR BEFORE, WE GOT A COUPLE OF HUNDRED GRAND.
AND YES, I KNOW I SAY THAT LIGHTLY, BUT WE HAVE IT FOR THESE PEOPLE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE WITH YOU. COUNSEL, ME AND MR. BATTON AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER CITIZENS HAVE BEEN HERE WITH YOU FOR MONTHS AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH EMPTY SEATS SO THAT THINGS LIKE THIS DIDN'T OCCUR.
AND I FRANKLY AM APPALLED THAT IT GOT ON THE AGENDA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT DID, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO QUESTION ANYBODY'S MOTIVES.
I KNOW I'M SHORT ON TIME, BUT I WILL SAY I WILL NOT CASCADE ON ANYBODY'S CHARACTER ON THIS DAIS. I WILL ONLY SHINE LIGHT ON THIS SITUATION.
THANK YOU. DO THE RIGHT THING UNDER THE LIGHT, GENTLEMEN.
TONY HAWK, FOLLOWED BY ADRIAN ANDERSON.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, I'M TONY HAWK, LIVE ON SURUMA BOULEVARD IN PALM BAY, ALSO PASTOR CHURCH ON THE ROCK, WHICH IS JUST CHOCK FULL OF PALM BAY CITIZENS.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, FIRST OFF, I KNOW YOUR JOB IS HARD AND AND I HONOR THAT.
AND AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
I GET IT. BUT IF YOU'LL ALLOW PERHAPS A LITTLE PASTORAL COUNCIL FOR MEN AND WOMEN TO SPEAK YOUR OWN SELF-INTEREST FOR YOU, TOO, I'M I'M SEEING ARTICLES ALL THE TIME ON VOTER SUPPRESSION AROUND OUR COUNTRY FOR YOU TO CHOOSE TO ENGAGE IN WHAT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE CALLED VOTER SUPPRESSION IN THE MIDST OF LITERALLY UNANIMOUS RESISTANCE IS IS JUST THE HEIGHT OF FOLLY FOR YOUR OWN SELF-INTEREST EASILY TO BACK OFF THIS ONE.
I MEET WITH A GROUP OF PASTORS HERE IN THIS CITY EVERY WEEK AND WE PRAY WEEKLY.
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WE PRAY FOR OUR CITY GOVERNMENTS.WE PRAY FOR THE PALM BAY GOVERNMENT.
WE PRAY FOR YOU GUYS. WE TEACH OUR PEOPLE IN OUR CHURCHES THAT REGARDLESS OF PARTY, REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU VOTED FOR, ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO BE TREATED WITH HONOR AND RESPECT. THAT BEING SAID.
DON'T WANT YOU TO UNDERESTIMATE HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO US.
WE WILL BE MAKING OUR PEOPLE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
I JUST WANT TO STRESS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO US.
AND AND I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED TO SAY THE PASTOR FINISHED WITH TIME LEFT.
THANK YOU. ADRIAN ANDERSON, FOLLOWED BY JIM CARREY GARY.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ADRIAN ANDERSON, AND I'M FOR 80 TO DRIVE MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, ACTUALLY, BUT I FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT WHAT MY NEIGHBORS FEEL, WHAT I FEEL AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY AROUND ME FEELS.
I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND I ACTUALLY SERVICE ALL THE SURROUNDING CITIES FROM MELBOURNE. SO I DO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST, I THINK.
AND WHAT HAPPENS REALLY IN THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA.
SO EVERYBODY'S PRETTY MUCH COVERED ALL THE POINTS THAT I COULD HAVE MADE.
IF YOU DO CHANGE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY MASKIN.
AS A COST SAVING MEASURE WOULD BE MASKING PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO VOTE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY.
LIKE I SAID, KIND OF LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE, BUT BASICALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING NOW THAT WILL DOWN THE ROAD LEAD TO SOME FORM OF TYRANNY.
THE THE PATH TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.
SO I FEEL LIKE, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, IF IT'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, THERE IS NO COST TOO GREAT TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS. I COME FROM. SORRY, CLINTON TEARED UP.
IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME BECAUSE I AM VERY PATRIOTIC.
I LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND I LOVE THAT WE ARE THE LEADER TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
WE REALLY DO SHINE THAT LIGHT FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO TRY TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS SO THEY CAN BE AND ACHIEVE THE THINGS THAT AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY.
SO THANK YOU FOR FOR GIVING ME YOUR TIME LISTENING TO ME, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A PALM BAY CITY RESIDENT.
BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO SEARCH DEEP DOWN IN YOU AND WHO YOU ARE AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND THINK ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND DO WHAT YOU THINK REALLY IS RIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE LONG TERM BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THE STORY FOLLOWED BY KEVIN PHINNEY.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, AND RESPECTED MEMBERS OF COUNCILMAN.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS TRANSACTION, THE CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE AND THE FREEDOMS THAT GUARANTEES.
WHEN OUR MILITARY POLICE, FIREFIGHTERS AND OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS AND YOU COUNCILMAN TOOK OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, REPRESENT AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, THEY COUNTED THE COST. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT OATH, AS THEY ARE THEN AN ACTIVE SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE WHEN, NOT IF, BUT WHEN THEY ARE THEN PRESENTED WITH A SITUATION TO DEFEND OR RESPOND TO, THEY DON'T STOP TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.
THAT DECISION WAS MADE WHEN THEY SIGNED UP.
IN FACT, MOST KNEW THAT DECISION TO DEFEND FREEDOM.
MAY POTENTIALLY COST THEIR LIVES.
I'M A PASTOR, A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, AND I SERVE BREVARD COUNTY, I FIGHT FOR THOSE WHO ARE VOICELESS.
THAT THE REMOVAL OF THE RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY TO VOTE IS EVEN BEING CONSIDERED BY THIS COUNCIL IS EGREGIOUS.
BUT HERE WE ARE. THAT RIGHT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT BE TAKEN AWAY BY THIS OR ANY FUTURE CITY
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COUNCIL ACTION.ANY FOLLOWED BY ANTHONY ANTHONY.
HI, MY NAME IS KAREN FINNEY, 571 BREAKWATER PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I COULD SAY THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT ANYONE ELSE HAS SAID HERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MY GRANDFATHER MOVED OUR WHOLE FAMILY.
AMERICA. WE COULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
WE COULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ESTABLISH OUR OWN IDENTITY, NOT BASED ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT OF, BASED UPON WHAT WE BELIEVED.
AND I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE.
WE DON'T. WE DON'T TAKE VERY LIGHTLY, WE TAKE THE DAY AFTER THE VOTING.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND FOR SOMEONE TO TRY TO TAKE THAT RIGHT AWAY IS WRONG, TO SAY THE LEAST.
HOISTED OUT OF THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SHOULD NOT DO THE.
YOU. EDDIE ANTHONY, FOLLOWED BY SCOTT CHAMBERLAIN.
I BELIEVE I HAVE ISSUES WITH MY NOTES, BUT LET'S TAKE IT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. BAILEY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU ON YOUR NEXT JOURNEY. OH, WHAT GOD HAS FOR YOU.
THIS IS GOING TO BE SHORT SO I COULD SEE MY TIME.
NAME IS EDDIE ANTONESCU, ALTHOUGH I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THIS GREAT CITY WE CALL PALM BAY SINCE 1988, I REMEMBER WHEN MALABAR WAS THE TWO LANE, REMEMBER THAT WE'RE HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL ESAD AND WE'RE AFRAID POPI PARK.
THERE WAS A BUNCH OF COWS AND A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING OVER THERE.
SO WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.
I TRULY BELIEVE IN MY HEART THAT GOD WANTS THIS CITY TO BE A CITY OF RESTORATION.
AND TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR HEARTS OPEN FOR WHAT HE WANTS.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.
BUT THIS THIS WHOLE WORLD WAS CREATED.
AND WE ARE UNDER A GOD THAT UNDERSTANDS LOVE, FREEDOM.
AND PEOPLE. THAT COULD COME TOGETHER AND MAKE THINGS GREAT.
CAN WE AGREE TO THAT? THEY WILL ALLOW ANYONE TO START CHANGING OR THINK THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN CHANGE OUR RIGHT TO PERSONALLY CHOOSE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OR TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT TO VOTE IS THE DAY WE START CHIPPING AWAY AND WEAKENING THE DAM THAT PROTECTS US FROM A DEVASTATING TSUNAMI OF DESTRUCTION.
THAT WILL DAMAGE AND DESTROY ALL THAT HAS BEEN BUILT ON THE BACKS OF THOSE WHO PREPARED THE WAY FOR US. WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE? IF THE NEXT GENERATION OR FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, IF WE ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN, ONE OF MY LITTLE HOMIES IS RIGHT BEHIND ME RIGHT THERE.
MARIA, GIVE ME A CALL THEM MARIA FIVE.
IS ONE OF OUR LITTLE WORSHIP LEADERS AT THE CHURCH, BUT IS MORE THAN JUST SINGING SONGS.
IS THAT FREEDOM THAT SHE HAS UNDER GOD OF THIS NATION? AND SOMETIMES I HAVE TO TAKE NOTES FROM HER.
WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE FOR HER IN THE FUTURE WHEN SHE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO MAKE A DECISION FOR US? I'VE BEEN A YOUTH PASTOR AT THE HOUSE CHURCH FROM 2016 TO 2020, AND I WILL ALWAYS TELL MY YOUTH AND THE 18 YEAR OLD YOUNG LADY OVER THERE WAS ONE OF THEM.
NOW SHE'S MOVED ON TO ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THAT.
I ALWAYS TELL THEM THIS AND NOT BE A BE IN THE BLEACHERS, BEING A SPECTATOR AND JUST SHOUTING COMMANDS AT THE GAME, MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT THERE BATTLING IT SAYS, BUT TO BE A PLAYER AND TO BE A PART OF THE GAME, WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE IF SHE WON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THAT FOR HER OWN CITY AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER?
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I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD SAY THIS, BUT, MAN, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE DAYS OF LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE WHEN EVERYTHING WAS AT PEACE? YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY WAS TOGETHER, LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU GUYS MAKE THAT DECISION TO.SCOTT CHAMBERLAIN, FOLLOWED BY JASON CARRASQUILLO.
SCOTT CHAMBERLAIN. AND WE CHECK IF SCOTT'S OUT THERE IN THE MEANTIME, MR. CARRASQUILLO, STEP FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING, PALM BAY MAYOR ROB MEDINA, CITY COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS GREAT CITY THAT WE LOVE PALM BAY.
MY NAME IS JASON CARRASQUILLO, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY SINCE 2006 WITH MY OFFICE AND WIFE OF 23 YEARS.
WE HAVE CHERISHED AND APPRECIATE ALL THE CHANGE THAT PALM BAY HAS MADE SINCE WE MOVED HERE. PRIOR TO THIS ADMINISTRATION, PALM BAY HAS HAD ITS FAIR SHARE OF QUESTIONABLE DECISIONS, THAT'S THE PLACE AT MEILE MOST POOR CHOICES COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED THROUGH TRANSPARENCY, HONESTY AND QUICK ACTION.
PALM BAY IS GOING THROUGH SOME GROWING PAINS, AND IT IS MY OPINION THAT WE CAN GROW TOGETHER HEALTHY AND STRONG BY CONTINUING TO BE TRANSPARENT, HONEST AND SWIFT IN ACTION.
IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION TO JEFF BAILEY WILL BE STEPPING DOWN AND I'M ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO FOLLOW CITY ORDINANCE 50, WHICH STATES IF A SEAT BECOMES AVAILABLE, A SPECIAL ELECTION SHOULD BE HELD.
I UNDERSTAND THE ALTERNATIVE REQUEST THAT HAS BEEN MADE WHICH SHOULD BE SWIFTLY DENIED.
THIS REQUEST IS TO LET THE POWERFUL PEOPLE APPOINT A COUNCIL PERSON TO REPLACE THE VACATED SEAT WITHOUT A VOICE FROM THE VOTERS.
IT IS NOT THE WAY DEMOCRACY WORKS.
IT IS NOT WHAT'S BEST INTERESTS OF PALM BAY TO APPOINT SOMEONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY IT.
IT CAN ONLY FURTHER ERODE OUR TRUST IN CITY WORKERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS BY APPOINTING SOMEONE THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY DID NOT APPROVE.
I URGE YOU ALL, LET THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY BE HEARD, LET WE THE PEOPLE CHOOSE OUR DIRECTION AND FUTURE.
LET US VOTE TO FILL A VACATED SEAT.
I LOVE WHAT CRYSTAL FLORA SAID.
LET'S OPEN UP THE BOOKS AND SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, COMPANIES OR BUSINESS PEOPLE COULD MAYBE FILL IN THE GAP FOR THAT FEE.
LASTLY, JEFF BAILEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
WE WISH YOU LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU. MAY GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY.
AND MAY GOD BLESS THIS CITY WE CALL PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. EMILY RIZZOTTO, FOLLOWED BY DAVID WALTON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS MY GRANDDAUGHTER RIGHT HERE, AND I JUST BEGGING YOU, PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE LAWS. THIS IS THE FUTURE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS WHERE MY HUSBAND DECEASED, BROUGHT US HERE.
AND THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO STAY.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE GROW IN OUR FAMILY OF NINE GRANDCHILDREN.
AND I HAVE FOUR FOUR TWO DAUGHTERS AND TWO SONS.
THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU, BAILEY.
AND. MR. MR. DAVID WALTON, FOLLOWED BY SHAREMARKET REIGO.
IF IT WASN'T. BUT OUT THERE CALLED.
AFTER SHERMAN, WALLIS IS GOING TO BE SOPHIA PATTERSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN PRIOR TO ME.
I HEARD SOME OF THE THINGS THEY SAID SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME OUTSIDE.
AND I THINK THAT I KEEP HEARING OVER AND OVER THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEIR VOICE TAKEN
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FROM THEM. BUT WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS WHEN THE MEETING STARTED, THERE WAS PROBABLY 200 PEOPLE OUTSIDE.MANY PEOPLE WANTED TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, BUT LOST THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CARDS TO FILL OUT, TO PUT THEIR NAME IN, TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUTSIDE. THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO HEAR THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING.
THEIR VOICES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIMINISHED.
BUT THANK GOD THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE HERE, OK? THE ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS WE ALL KNOW THE TONE IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. WE ALL KNOW WHICH DIRECTION THIS IS GOING.
THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY DESERVE A CITY COUNCIL THAT WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY.
LOOK, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.
WHEN I MOVED HERE FOUR YEARS AGO, THE FIRST THING THAT I HEARD WAS ALLEGATIONS OF FINANCIAL MALFEASANCE FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
I KNOW SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE LEFT, BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THERE STILL MIGHT BE A MEMBER ON THIS COUNCIL.
THAT IS STILL BEING INVESTIGATED FOR FINANCIAL MALFEASANCE WITH OUR MONEY.
OUR MONEY AND HERE WE SIT HERE TODAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO SAVE US MONEY, TAKE OUR VOICE AWAY AND SAVE US MONEY.
I MEAN, COME ON, GUYS, WE CAN DO BETTER.
I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE WANT TO SAVE THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY MONEY, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ON THIS COUNCIL RIGHT NOW THAT ISN'T HERE FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE HERE FOR SELF-SERVING PURPOSES, THAT'S NOT PART OF YOUR OATH OF OFFICE.
WHY NOT SAVE US MONEY BY RUNNING A SPECIAL ELECTION, NOT FOR ONE PERSON, BUT FOR MAYBE TWO? OK.
I MEAN, WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT PERHAPS THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD DISCUSS.
MAYBE INSTEAD OF TAKING REDUCING OUR VOTE, MAYBE INCREASING OUR VOTERS, SHOULD SOMEBODY ELSE STEP OFF IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO PROPOSED THIS. I UNDERSTAND IT WAS NONE, NONE OF YOU.
BUT THERE WAS SOME OTHER PEOPLE WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT PROPOSED THIS MOTION.
OK, MAYBE THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
MAYBE THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY FEEL ABOUT THE RIGHTS BEING TAKEN AWAY. WE DESERVE BETTER.
WE DESERVE BETTER. I BELIEVE WE CAN ALL WORK THERE TOGETHER.
ONE GENTLEMAN SAID EARLIER, HOW DID IT BECOME YOU AND US? I THINK HE WAS RIGHT ON.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THESE SEATS FOR A MEETING, MAYBE IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE COMMUNICATING EVERYTHING OUT QUICKLY ENOUGH OR APPROPRIATELY OR PUTTING IT IN PLACES WHERE NO ONE READS. SO NO ONE DOES SHOW UP.
SO PLEASE START COMMUNICATING WITH US.
THANK YOU. SOPHIA PATTERSON, YES, TWO THREE EIGHT ZERO ROAD, I REPRESENT THE PATTERSON HOUSEHOLD, I DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU, MAYOR, ON YOUR TIE.
I LOVE THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE.
I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND MY MY BOSS LADY MACHINA WALLACE, WHO GOT ME HERE TONIGHT.
AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE'S SOME CLARITY THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE NOW.
I'M ALL FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION, BUT I LOOKED AT THE TIME FRAME AND PLEASE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. IT SAYS NO GENERAL ELECTION IS SCHEDULED TO BE HELD NO SOONER THAN 90 DAYS.
SO MR. BAILEY, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON THIS ON AUGUST 5TH.
IF YOU TAKE 90 DAYS FROM THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP IN NOVEMBER.
THERE IS A GENERAL ELECTION THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE IN NOVEMBER OF TWENTY, TWENTY TWO.
SO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE? I NEED SOME ANSWERS TO REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS IN SECTION FIFTY POINT FIFTY FIVE, SECTION ONE TWO.
OK, AND WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I NEED THAT CLARIFICATION.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE COST OF A SPECIAL ELECTION, BUT IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE A TIME FRAME ISSUE.
NOW, I MAY BE INCORRECT, BUT I DO WANT THAT CLARIFICATION AS WELL AS THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DON'T TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT TO VOTE IF IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND BE CLEAR IF IT'S AN ISSUE OF 90 DAYS VERSUS 180 DAYS, BECAUSE IT SAYS CLEARLY THAT NO ELECTION CAN TAKE PLACE MORE THAN 90 DAYS NO SOONER THAN 90 DAYS.
I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE SAW THAT.
IT'S COUNCILMAN, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A PAUSE HERE FOR A SECOND AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED SO FAR, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
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I DON'T BELIEVE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA.WE WE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I PUBLICLY HAVE SAID THIS, I'VE SAID THIS IS UNPATRIOTIC.
THIS IS UN-AMERICAN. THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT ORDER.
POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. POINT OF ORDER.
LISTEN, I'M THE MAN POINT OF ORDER IN MY JOB.
UNDER THIS BANNER, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER NO MATTER WHAT ORDER, POINT OF ORDER, WE HAVE A PROTOCOL, WE INVESTIGATE THIS.
WE HAVE A HAVE YOUR ORDER, SIR.
NO, LISTEN, KELSALL, YOU'RE GOING OUT OF THE PROTOCOL, TELLS YOU TO STAY WITH THE PROTOCOL, ALLOW THESE PEOPLE.
YOU DON'T KNOW TRUSTEE, COUNCILMAN, FOSTER.
HE'S SPEAKING THERE. I AM SPEAKING, I, I RUN THIS MEETING, SIR.
THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE ELECTED ME MAYOR.
IF YOU HAVE AN ORDER, WE HAVE A PROTOCOL.
YOU HAVE A PROTOCOL TO GO BY THE PROTOCOL THAT YOU HAD VIOLATED MYSELF WITH THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
CARRY ON. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MARCO OSTRANDER, FOLLOWED BY MIGDALIA RODRIGUEZ.
GREETINGS, MR. MAYOR. GREETINGS, COUNCIL.
GREETINGS, STAFF. MY NAME IS MARK OSTRANDER.
I LIVE AT 261 MEDIA AVENUE, HAVE FOR 41 YEARS I PASTOR OF THE MISSION CHURCH AT 100 EMERSON DRIVE NORTHWEST AND PALM BAY HAVE FOR 40 YEARS VOTED IN EVERY ELECTION IN PALM BAY. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS TODAY AND MOST EVERYTHING I AGREE WITH 100 PERCENT.
THE BEST THING THAT WE CAN ATTEND TO IS WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE GOD'S WORD IS ABSOLUTE, NOT SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD'S WORD IS ABSOLUTE AND NOT SUBJECT TO CHANGE, THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM.
THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR MORAL CLARITY AND THEIR DIRECTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO ABSOLUTE AND THEY GO WITH THE FLOW, SO TO SPEAK.
SO THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE POWERS THAT BE ISD YOU ALL ARE ORDAINED OF GOD.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A HIGHER AUTHORITY THAN YOU WILL, AND THAT IS THE ONE WHO GAVE THE POWER. SO IN VIEW OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS A FEW THINGS THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED. BUT I WILL ALSO WE ALREADY HAVE A PROVISION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I HAVE READ IT IN RESPECT TO THE PROBLEM THAT IS AT HAND WITH MR. BAILEY'S IMPENDING RESIGNATION, AND THAT IS TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THERE'LL BE AN ELECTION. SO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF HAS ALREADY SCHEDULED AN ELECTION BY VIRTUE OF AN IMPENDING VACANCY.
THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ALL THE RIGHT TO SCHEDULE MY VOICE AND VOTE IN THAT ELECTION.
YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN AUTHORITY, BUT YOU HAVE NOT SUPERCEDE.
YOU DON'T HAVE SUPERSEDED AUTHORITY OVER THE ORDINANCE.
IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, YOU DON'T DO IT.
ANY ONE KNOWS YOU DON'T DO IT BECAUSE THERE'S A DISASTER OR A PROBLEM THAT IS REACTIVE GOVERNANCE. YOU IF YOU DO THAT IN YOUR HOME, YOUR KIDS GO BAT BAD.
IF YOU DO THAT IN YOUR BUSINESS, YOUR BUSINESS HAS A DAMAGE, YOU DO THAT IN THE CITY, THEN YOU END UP REACTING WHENEVER THERE'S A PROBLEM.
IF YOU REALLY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT CHANGING AN ORDINANCE, YOU DON'T DO IT AT AN IMPENDING PROBLEM. YOU DO IT AND YOU TAKE THE INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS.
YOU HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, ESPECIALLY IN THINGS THAT CONCERN VOTING AND ELECTION, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT IT AFFECTS, NOT YOU.
OK, SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT.
AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF POINTS, BUT ONLY A FEW LEFT.
SO THE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION THAT SOMEBODY SAYS, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FOR PROBLEMS THAT COME UP MS.? IF THE POWER GOES OFF IN THIS ROOM, I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S A PLAN AND AND YOU DO HAVE ONE. WHEN THERE'S A VACANT SEAT, YOU HAVE A PROVISION AND THAT IS TO HAVE AN ELECTION.
SO I'M ENCOURAGING YOU NOT TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE DEFRAUDING THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY OF THEIR VOTE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THIS ELECTION.
NOW, I'M PRAYING, AS OUR CHURCH DOES REGULARLY FOR EACH OF YOU BY NAME, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE COURAGE, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE GRACE FROM GOD TO STAND UP AND FOLLOW THROUGH
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IN OUR NATION ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL FEDERAL REPUBLIC THAT WE HAVE AND GIVE US THE RIGHT.DON'T GIVE US THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
WE TAKE THE RIGHT TO VOTE BECAUSE IT'S UNNAMABLE BY GOD.
MS. RODRIGUEZ, FOLLOWED BY JANE AND CHARLIE HALLSTEIN.
REANIMATOR COUNCIL MEMBER IS MY FIRST TIME, HA HA HA HA.
I KNOW EVEN PREPARE, BUT FOR ME, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WANT TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON WHO REPRESENTS ME.
AND I DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO CHOOSE THAT PERSON.
SO I SAY NO TO CHANGE THE AMENDMENT.
GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.
JANE AND CHARLIE HOLSTEIN OR HURLSTONE.
JOHN KERRY, ARI, JOHN PALM BAY.
JOSEPH MILLS'. AFTER JOSEPH MILLS, JUSTIN, STATESMEN OR STATESMAN? ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING.
I WANT TO FAST FOR EXPEDITE WAS ONLY THREE MINUTES HERE.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU HERE.
I WANT TO EDIFIED THE VOTERS HERE IN PALM BAY.
THIS IS ABOUT PRESERVING US VOTING.
YOU'VE HEARD THAT ENOUGH. I AM NOW CONFUSED OF WHAT JUST TRANSPIRED AFTER THE THREE SPEAKERS AGO. AND I WOULD HOPE AT THE END, BEFORE WE ALL GO HOME, YOU'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1994 AND CONSISTENTLY SINCE 2006.
I'VE BEEN HERE WITH MAZZIOTTI.
I'VE BEEN HERE ALL THROUGH THE MAYORS AND COUNCILMAN, AND I'M A VERY INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND I'M EDIFIED. EVERYBODY HERE, WE HAVE CANDIDATES READY TO RUN.
AND LET'S JUST YOU'RE I THINK YOU'RE ABOUT TO SCRAP THE WHOLE THING RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
AND THEN HE STOPPED. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SCRAP IT RIGHT NOW.
YOU STILL HAVE TO WAIT TWO MINUTES BEFORE I'M DONE.
YOU CAN SCRAP IT NOW IF YOU REALLY WANT IT.
DO YOU HAVE THAT POWER TO DO THAT? AND I'M AWARE OF THE PROCEDURE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CALL TO ORDER WAS ABOUT, BUT HE HAD A RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID.
YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE ALL FIVE OF YOU ARE GOING TO SUPPORT AND PRESERVE THE SPECIAL ELECTION. EVERYONE IS HERE.
I THINK ALL FIVE OF YOU, I THINK, SHOULD BE UNANIMOUS.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT YOUR CAREER TO BE OVER IN ALL FIVE OF YOU.
I KNOW. HAVE YOU EITHER BY TELEPHONE OR IN PERSON? I FRANKLY, I'M WANTING TO RUN, I HAD THE MIND TO RUN.
I JUST GOT MY INHERITANCE TO RUN AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL WHEN I HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE ORDINANCE ISSUE FOR HOUSING.
YOU TOOK MY CALL, YOU WERE DOING HOMEWORK WITH YOUR CHILD AND TOOK MY CALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE VOTED ALL WEEK, BUT I'M READY TO RIGHT THIS CASE.
HE WANTS TO RUN. DO WE HAVE A GOOD RACE? I CAN PICK THE BEST ONES. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW.
WE'VE GOT SO MUCH ABILITY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, WE'VE GOT THE SOCIAL CONTRACT HERE, WE GOT ALL THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS HERE.
I CAN INVITE ONE PERSON HERE I KNOW PERSONALLY IN MIAMI THAT CAN RAISE MONEY HERE.
BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY. EVERYBODY AND I WORK FOR A CPA.
I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT ON THE MONEY. TERESE ON YOUR BOOKS, FORWARD AND BACKWARD.
I'VE SAT HERE, LIKE I SAID, SINCE 2006.
I'VE SAT HERE WHEN WE HAD THE RACE BETWEEN RACIAL PASSION AND GRACE WHITE.
I SAT HERE WITH A CPA, RONNIE WHITE, EVERY SINGLE BUDGET MEETING.
AND I KNOW HOW THIS BUDGET IS RUN.
WE CAN DO IT. WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY, NOT ABOUT ANYTHING THIS IS ABOUT AND WE HAD THE TIME TO LOOK AT TWENTY SIX YEAR AND WHAT WE HAD THE TIMETABLE, I UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS FOR THE TIME, YOUR LAST MEETING, NOT ON THE TIME OF YOUR ELECTION.
WE STILL HAVE ONE YEAR. WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME.
I DID THE MATH. WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO PUT SOMEBODY ELSE IN HERE LIKE SOMEONE FOR THE NEXT YEAR, HAVE A PARTIAL TERM AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK INTO ANOTHER ELECTION.
PLENTY OF TIME. SO LET'S JUST DO THAT.
I'M JUST CERTIFIED BY EVERYBODY HERE, AND IF I HAVE ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK. THANK YOU.
MR., JUSTIN STATESMAN, STATESMAN, FOLLOWED BY MS. OR MS. LAUREN BRUUN.
MR., JUSTIN. OK, GO AHEAD, LAUREN.
COME ON. HELLO BY LAUREN BROOMED TWENTY SIX
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13 TENISON AVENUE SE PALM BAY.I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY FOUR.
MY DAD MOVED HERE FOR A JOB SO I'VE GROWN UP HERE.
I WENT TO SCHOOL HERE. MY HUSBAND HAS BEEN HERE A LOT LONGER THAN ME.
HE'S BEEN HERE SINCE NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE.
HIS GRANDFATHER WAS THE MAYOR OF PALM BAY IN THE MID NINETIES.
SO WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH.
BUT ME AND EVERYBODY BEHIND ME ARE HARD WORKING CONSTITUENTS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE ALL WORK VERY, VERY HARD EVERY DAY TO BUILD OUR HOUSES THAT WE WANT TO LIVE IN FOR OUR FAMILIES. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT OUR FAMILY.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE HERE TO REPRESENT YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMEBODY IN THAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN, IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT YOU AND NOT THE CONSTITUENTS.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR, IS TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT COSTS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO REPRESENT WHAT WE WANT, NOT WHAT YOU WANT. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE WORKED FOR.
THAT'S WHY YOU FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE IN ARMED SERVICES.
THEY FOUGHT FOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
AND I ALSO WANT TO PUT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, VOTING RIGHTS AND SUPPRESSING VOTING RIGHTS.
THIS COULD CERTAINLY BE PUT OUT THERE.
IT CAN'T ALWAYS BE THE ONE SIDED THING THAT IT'S RACISM OR WHATEVER IT IS.
THIS IS OVERALL A VOTING RIGHTS ISSUE FOR ALL RACES HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT ARE GOING TO BE VOTING. SO WE CAN'T JUST MAKE IT ABOUT ONE RACE OR ONE RACE.
WE'RE ALL HERE TO VOTE FOR WHO WE WANT UP THERE.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, MR. BAILEY UP THERE. YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE OUR MAYOR VERY MUCH. YOU LIVE TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM MEL'S DAUGHTER IN NW PALM BAY.
I PASS YOUR HOUSE ALL THE TIME.
SO I'M NOT A POLITICIAN AND I'M MARRIED TO HIS GRANDSON AND HE'S NOT A POLITICIAN BECAUSE HE GREW UP WITH POLITICS AROUND HIM.
I REMEMBER WE KNEW EACH OTHER IN HIGH SCHOOL, SO I REMEMBER THE SIGNS AND YOU KIND OF GET DESENSITIZED TO POLITICS.
BUT MY HUSBAND'S AT HOME WITH OUR THREE KIDS MOUTHS, THREE GREAT GRANDCHILDREN, SO I COULD COME HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.
I OWN MY OWN BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
AND I WAS A STATE GOVERNMENT WORKER.
I WORKED TWO JOBS FOR TEN YEARS.
I NEVER LEFT THE CITY OF PALM BAY EVEN TO GO TO COLLEGE.
I DROVE BACK AND FORTH TO ORLANDO DOING THE HARD PART BECAUSE I WANTED TO LIVE HERE.
I'VE LIVED HERE AND I'VE NEVER LEFT HERE.
I'VE BEEN HERE THIRTY EIGHT YEARS STRAIGHT.
SO FOR ALL OF US THAT WORK REALLY HARD, PLEASE DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
GET RID OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE AND PLEASE GIVE US THE RIGHT TO VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I LIKE TO JUST TAKE A THREE MINUTE RECESS, PLEASE.
OK, CAN WE JUST SETTLE DOWN AND TAKE OUR SEATS, PLEASE? WE'RE GOING TO COMMENCE AGAIN.
MELANIE, MELANIE CARTER, FOLLOWED BY BOB LLEWELLYN.
BOB LLEWELLYN, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT BURNS.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, COUNSEL, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE.
LISTEN, IN THREE MINUTES TIME, IT'S HARD TO GET A LOT SAID, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY.
I REALIZE THE CLOCK'S TICKING.
THIS IS A LIGHTNING ROD ISSUE, YOU ALL HAVE PUT YOURSELVES IN THE CROSSHAIRS OF BECOMING NATIONAL FIGURES, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AND.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER SOMETHING THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND THAT IS.
WE WERE GIVEN SUCH WISDOM BY OUR FOUNDERS.
AND IT COULDN'T ALL BE READILY AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES IN OUR MINDS TODAY.
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THEY CAME UP WITH A MOTTO.THEY SAID, LET'S DISTILL IT DOWN TO THIS IN GOD WE TRUST.
AND IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO JUST REMEMBER THOSE FOUR WORDS AND TO COMPORT THEIR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE BEHAVIOR CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES AND THE LAWS AND THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE FOUND IN SCRIPTURE.
MEANING THE BIBLE, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD.
AND YOU HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
BUT. OUR FOUNDING DOCUMENTS CLEARLY REFERENCE.
CONCEPTS AND THE SINGLE GOD, NOT MULTIPLE GODS CETERA, BUT EVEN GEORGE WASHINGTON THOUGHT THAT THE MOHAMMEDANS, WHICH WE NOW CALL MUSLIMS, SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME HERE AS WELL.
NOW, MAYBE HE WASN'T THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT SOME OF THEM BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT THEIR RELIGION IS THE ONLY WAY, ETC., ETC.
BUT THE POINT IS THEY ARE THE FOUNDERS OF OUR COUNTRY GAVE US THIS THIS WISDOM OF DO THINGS ACCORDING TO YOUR TRUST IN GOD.
IF YOU IF YOU THINK OF IT THIS WAY, IF ALL THE LAWS Y'ALL MADE OR THAT THE STATE MADE OR THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MADE.
WERE CONSISTENT WITH IN GOD WE TRUST, WOULDN'T WE HAVE SOLVED A LOT OF PROBLEMS? THANK YOU. ROBERT BURNS, FOLLOWED BY MS. CHRISTINE ZONKER.
I LIVE IN. BEFORE I START, I WANT TO JUST MAKE A RESPECTFUL HOUSEKEEPING NOTE THAT IF I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE RULES FOR CIVILITY AND FOR DECORUM, THEN WE NEED TO ENFORCE THOSE RULES OR NOT HAVE THEM AT ALL.
THE COMMON THEME TONIGHT HERE IS RIGHTS, PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
SOME OF US HAVE DIED FOR OUR RIGHTS.
SOME OF US HAVE GIVEN UP OUR FREEDOM FOR OUR RIGHTS OR OUR RIGHTS ARE GIVEN TO US BY OUR CONSTITUTION. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE RIGHTS UP THERE ON THAT COUNCIL, BUT YOUR RIGHTS ARE GIVEN TO YOU BY THESE PEOPLE.
YES, YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
THAT'S THAT'S BEEN PUT BEFORE YOU, BUT YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE GIVEN YOU THAT, RIGHT? IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, IS IT ENTIRELY YOUR RIGHT? AND I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
I SAY THAT BECAUSE WITH OUR RIGHTS ALSO COME RESPONSIBILITIES.
WHEN YOU HAVE A RIGHT, YOU HAVE A DUTY TO EXERCISE THAT RIGHT RESPONSIBLY.
OUR STATE LAWS ALLOW FOR APPOINTMENTS.
OUR GOVERNOR APPOINTS PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
BUT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE, I BELIEVE SAVED FROM A CATASTROPHE OR SOME KIND OF EMERGENCY APPOINTMENTS SHOULD NEVER BE FOR ELECTED POSITIONS.
IT UNDERMINES THE PEOPLE'S TRUST AND UNDERMINES THEIR VOICE.
WE ALSO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO FULFILL OUR OBLIGATIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT OBLIGATION YOU MADE TO THE PEOPLE WHO PUT YOU IN THAT POSITION.
RICE IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR OUR RIGHTS, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH OUR SPENDING. SO IF THAT MEANS THAT SOMEONE NEEDS TO RESIGN EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN MITIGATE THE COST THAT IS PUT BEFORE US TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, THEN THAT IS THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO. NO MATTER WHAT PERCENTAGE OF VOTERS THAT SHOW UP FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION, WHETHER IT'S NINE PERCENT OR 10 PERCENT, IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE IT'S 100 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE'S VOICE THAT SHOWED UP AND SPOKE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT PROBABLY DIDN'T VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION, AND THEY'RE SEEING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF NOT LETTING THEIR VOICE BE HEARD.
BUT THEIR VOICES ARE WHAT MATTERS THE MOST.
SO I THINK THAT THE AUDIENCE SHOULD BE CHANGED.
I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD EVER BE AN APPOINTMENT TO AN ELECTED POSITION, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE STATE ON DOWN TO THE MUNICIPALITIES.
THE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE CHANGED TO ALLOW FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION AT ALL TIMES, NO MATTER WHAT. THANK YOU. MAY OR MAY I LIKE TO RECALL THE LAST COMMENT OR ASK THE QUESTION, PLEASE? MR. BURNS, WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP FORWARD? MR. BURNS, AS YOU KNOW, WE KNOW EACH OTHER PERSONALLY, I KNOW FROM THE CAMPAIGN, YOU
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KNOW, YOU RAN ONE OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER CAMPAIGNS UP HERE IN 18.MY QUESTION IS, WHAT SAVINGS WOULD BE REALIZED BY CHANGING A RESIGNATION DATE, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT THERE.
YOU ALSO HAVE A MEDIA OUTLET, CORRECT? YES. INFORMATION BEEN PUT OUT THERE.
WHAT'S THAT? BASED ON MY MY UNDERSTANDING, THE SEIZING THE SAVINGS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COST OF THE ELECTION FROM HAPPENING ON NOVEMBER 2ND, WHICH IS WHAT THE REGULAR GENERAL SCHEDULED ELECTION IS FOR BREVARD COUNTY, PALM BAY WOULD HAVE TO PUT ON THE ELECTION BY ITSELF INDEPENDENT FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION.
SO OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY'RE IF THE ELECTION IS CONSOLIDATED WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTY, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COST SAVINGS THERE WITH LABOR, WITH OVERTIME.
I THINK THE SUPERVISOR PUT OUT AN ESTIMATE THAT WAS ITEMIZED BY THE EXTRA OVERTIME CHARGES AND TEMPORARY STAFF.
LET ME JUST GET I KNOW MEAN I APOLOGIZE.
RUN YOU OFF. BUT WHAT DOES THAT COST AND WHAT'S THAT COST? I BELIEVE IT'S APPROXIMATELY NINETY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND YOU BELIEVE THAT BASED ON BASED OFF OF THE ESTIMATE, YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN TAKE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS ESTIMATE AND CALCULATE OUT NINETY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS.
YES. YOU KNOW WHAT LINE ITEMS ARE THE ADDITIONAL OVERTIME AND TEMPORARY STAFF? WHAT I WAS ALSO TOLD IS THAT THE THE COST IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THIS TIME, AS OPPOSED TO 12 19 BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT EXPLOSION AND A REQUEST FOR MAIL IN BALLOTS.
SO THE MAIL IN BALLOTS, WHICH IS ALSO DRIVING THE COST, WOULD BE HIGHER THAN THE EIGHTY THREE THOUSAND THAT WE SAW IN TWENTY.
YEAH, BUT THAT THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT BASICALLY IT'S IT'S YOUR OWN SPECULATION BASED ON READING WHAT THEY HAVE THERE. RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SUPERVISOR ELECTIONS SAYING THAT WOULD SAVE NINETY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS, CORRECT.
ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT FROM THE SUPERVISOR ELECTIONS OFFICE, IT IS THE GENERAL BELIEF THAT IF THE ELECTIONS ARE CONSOLIDATED TOGETHER, IT IS GOING TO BE A LESSER COST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A POOL OF PEOPLE TO PULL FROM TO PUT TO DIFFERENT POLLING STATIONS AS OPPOSED TO A TEMPORARY STAFF ONLY FOR A PALM BAY ELECTION.
I JUST I JUST WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I DO HAVE MY OWN REQUEST FOR THIS INFORMATION. BUT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REPORTED AND OBVIOUSLY REQUESTS AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
CHRIS CHRISTIE, YOU SO PLEASE.
NO ALPERS. CHRISTINE ZONKER FOLLOWED BY MR. RICK LACY. GOOD EVENING, CHRISTINE, ZONKER, INDIALANTIC.
FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
I'VE BEEN IN THOSE SEATS UP THERE AND I KNOW IT'S A THANKLESS JOB.
I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A FORMER 20 YEAR PALM BAY RESIDENT.
I JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO INDIALANTIC, STILL WITHIN MY DISTRICT.
I'M HERE BECAUSE 40 PERCENT OF PALM BAY IS MY DISTRICT.
SO I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
AND I'M ALSO HERE AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR PREFERRED COUNTY.
AND IF ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW WHO I AM OF OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT FIVE, YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
MY MY QUESTION TO YOU, AND OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT THE BACK AND FORTH DIALOG, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU'LL TAKE THIS UP AFTER AFTER YOUR SPEAKERS HAVE FINISHED TALKING IS NUMBER ONE. WHERE DID THIS SUGGESTION COME FROM ON THE AGENDA? I KNOW STAFF HAS TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF IT.
THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS HAVE TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF THIS.
BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT YOUR STAFF, WHO ALL WORK FOR YOU, BY THE WAY, WOULD PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WITHOUT WITHOUT AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGESTING THE CHANGE.
AND IF THEY DID DO IT ON THEIR OWN, THEN YOU'VE GOT FAR BIGGER ISSUES, BECAUSE I KNOW THESE CONSTITUTIONAL I HAD THE HONOR TO WORK WITH ALL THREE OF THESE FINE INDIVIDUALS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD INITIATE THIS ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE PUT YOU ALL IN THE CROSSHAIRS BY DOING THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW OBVIOUSLY IT'S OBVIOUS THAT SOME SUPPORT IT AND SOME DO NOT.
I WOULD JUST ASK, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH OF A CHANGE AND IT'S ALL ABOUT COST SAVINGS, WHY NOW? WHY NOW WITH THE RESIGNATION OF A COUNCIL MEMBER, WOULD YOU CHANGES AT THIS HOUR? SO TAKE SO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY, WHETHER YOU LIKE THIS OR WHETHER YOU DON'T, BUT TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THERE NOT BEING THAT CHANGE BECAUSE YOU WERE GIVEN OPTIONS ON YOUR AGENDA. YOU WERE SAYING HERE IS THE PROPOSED CHANGE.
ONE, LET THE PEOPLE VOTE, KEEP THINGS IN PLACE.
NUMBER TWO, THIS IS WHAT THE CHANGE MEANS.
YOU WERE GIVEN AN AGENDA ITEM COMPLETE WITH THE LINE ITEMS CROSSED OUT.
SO AS A AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR 40 PERCENT OF PALM BAY, HOLD YOUR SPECIAL ELECTION, SUCK UP THE COST THE CITY OVER THE YEARS AND AND ALL OF US HAVE WASTED MORE MONEY THAN WE CARE TO EVEN ADMIT TO.
THE CITY'S MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES OVER THE YEARS.
DON'T MAKE THIS ONE, BECAUSE WHETHER YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION OR NOT, I THINK YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE PRETTY MUCH SAID THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE THE SPECIAL ELECTION. SO YOU REPRESENT THEM.
SO I WOULD SAY DO THE WILL DO THE WILL OF WHAT YOU'RE WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL HERE AND IT'S TEN O'CLOCK AND WE ALL HAVE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IN THE MORNING. WE FELT IT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO COME HERE AND SPEAK.
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SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOU DO.I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
I MAY NOT AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
IT'S NOT EASY SITTING UP THERE.
COMMISSIONER ZAKOUMA, I TRULY APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND VOICING THE CONCERNS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. MR. LACY, FOLLOWED BY MR. JOSEPH. GO TELL.
I KNEW THERE WAS A LOT OF PASSION AND PALM BAY, BUT BOY, DO I LOVE PALM BAY.
I BROUGHT TWO THINGS WITH ME TONIGHT TO TRY TO HELP YOU GUYS.
ONE IS A COPY, MY COPY OF THE CONSTITUTION, BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE A COPY.
I ALSO BROUGHT MY ROSARY BEADS TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SAY A ROSARY FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT BECAUSE I GOT TO THINK THAT AND I GOT I MEAN, I GOT INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS FROM MY FELLOW REPUBLICANS.
I BROUGHT A LOT OF THEM WITH ME TONIGHT.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING AND SPEAKING UP ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, RULES CAN BE CHANGED.
AND I KNOW COUNSELS DO CONSIDER CHANGING RULES.
AND MAYBE THE IDEA OF SAVING A COUPLE OF BUCKS WAS GOING TO ENTER INTO SOMEBODY'S MIND.
BUT YOU DON'T CHANGE THE RULES IN LIKE LIKE THIS.
THIS WOULD BE THE WRONG WAY OF CHANGING YOUR RULE.
YOU DON'T CHANGE THE LAW IN MIDTERM.
I DON'T RECALL ANYBODY RUNNING FOR OFFICE ON THIS PANEL THAT RAN ON THE BASIS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE.
THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OUR GOOD FRIEND JEFF AND HIS WIFE COREY WERE GOING TO LEAVE US.
AND SO I THINK IT'S THE WRONG TIME TO DO IT.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE AT ALL, BUT IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE THE WRONG TIME TO DO IT FOR THE ELECTION. SO I'M GOING TO SAY A ROSARY FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO ASSUME, LIKE I SAID, I MUST HAVE GOTTEN 80 PHONE CALLS.
THAT'S WHY I CAME DOWN HERE TONIGHT AS CHAIRMAN OF THE NEVADA REPUBLICAN PARTY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF YOU MAKE THE WRONG DECISION, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SITTING UP THERE. SO WE WE WANT YOU TO DO SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT, DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO NOT CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE THE WAY IT'S BEING PROPOSED.
IT WOULD BE WRONG FOR YOU TO DO IT.
AND SO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE.
PALM BAY DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
AND AS FAR AS THE ELECTION COST, EVERY ELECTION COSTS MONEY.
EVERY ONE OF YOUR ELECTIONS COSTS MONEY.
AND IF WE'RE ONLY GOING TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY IN ELECTIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IN CUBA AND VENEZUELA AND A FEW OTHER COUNTRIES, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT JUST KEEP GOVERNOR DE SANTOS AS GOVERNOR AND SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE ELECTIONS FOR THE PURPOSE SO THAT THE PEOPLE CAN HAVE A SAY AND WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO DEPRIVE THAT OF THEM.
I MEAN, WHEN I HEARD THIS IDEA CAME UP AND I GOT MUST HAVE GOTTEN 80, 85 PHONE CALLS FROM MY FOLKS ABOUT IT, I FIGURED SOME LAWYER MUST HAVE CAME UP WITH THIS CRAZY IDEA BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF SOMEBODY WHO WENT TO AN ELECTION AND GOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE WOULD COME UP WITH AN IDEA OF TAKING THAT VOTE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY THEMSELVES GOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. SO FOOD FOR THOUGHT, DON'T CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, STAY WITH THE LAW AS IT IS, AND THINK ABOUT IT TONIGHT BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY FINAL DECISION.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
JOSEPH CATELL, FOLLOWED BY ANGELA PORTO.
I THINK THAT WAS JUST A CATTLE.
I'M SO SORRY, I JUST I GOT HUNG UP ON THIS.
THAT'S OK. I'M YOUR I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE SPACE COAST.
YOUNG REPUBLICANS LIKE CHAIRMAN LACEY.
I REPRESENT REPUBLICANS FROM ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
THIS IS A CONCERN FOR ALL OF US ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
ANY TIME WE TOUCH THE RIGHT TO VOTE, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SACRED RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE.
I REMEMBER KNOCKING AT DOOR IN PALM BAY AND NO ONE HAD EVER ASKED THEM FOR A VOTE BEFORE.
AND THE PERSON BROKE DOWN IN TEARS IN FRONT OF ME BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD FINALLY COME TO THEIR DOOR AND ASKED THEM TO VOTE.
PEOPLE HAVE BEATEN THE TAKING THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AWAY TO DEATH.
TONIGHT, WE ALL KNOW IT'S WRONG TO TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO VOTE.
BUT WHY I'M CONCERNED IS THE OTHER 10 PAGES OF REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE CHANGING HERE.
WE ARE CHANGING FILING DEADLINES, SHORTENING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO CAMPAIGN TO EFFECTIVELY. SEVENTY FOUR DAYS.
IF WE GO WITH THIS FLORIDA STATUTE, THE MINIMUM LENGTH OF TIME, THERE ARE OVER 80000 VOTERS HERE IN PALM BAY, 80000 VOTERS.
QUICK MATH TELLS YOU THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO OVER A THOUSAND VOTERS A DAY TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH VOTERS WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
WE NEED TO HAVE THE TIME TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO LEARN ABOUT THEM OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
WE SHOULDN'T SHORTEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO TALK TO VOTERS OR FOR US TO LEARN ABOUT THEM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE YOU STAND ON, BECAUSE A VOTE IS, AS TEDDY ROOSEVELT SAID, ALWAYS USEFUL AS THE PERSON WHO WIELDS IT.
WE NEED TO MAKE THE VOTERS ABLE TO BE INFORMED TO LEARN ABOUT THEIR OFFICIALS OVER TIME TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN OUR ENTIRE COUNTY.
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I AM PERSONALLY TIRED OF HAVING TO DEFEND TO MY FRIENDS AROUND THE COUNTRY.WHY PALM BAY KEEPS FINDING WAYS TO MESS UP.
THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.
WE CAN GIVE CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
AND WE CAN PRESERVE THEIR RIGHTS TO LEARN ABOUT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS BEFORE THEY GET INTO OFFICE. BEFORE WE HAVE MEETINGS, THERE ARE TENTS LIKE THIS.
AND WHEN WE HOPEFULLY ADDRESS OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES, SUCH AS TRASH PICKUP ROADS AND OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE FACING THE CITIZENS RIGHT HERE IN PARLIAMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR EVENING.
ANGELA POTO, FOLLOWED BY JAMES BOOTHROYD.
HERO OR DEWEY? MY NAME IS ANGELA PORTER, I'M AT 10, 40, SUN SWEPT ROAD NE IN PALM BAY, AND I'VE HEARD IT SAID TONIGHT, LIKE PEOPLE SAID, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH SAID.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE HEROES.
WITH THE KIND OF COVERAGE THIS IS GETTING AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET BIGGER IF THIS CONTINUES AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STOP IT.
YOU GUYS, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT TONIGHT FROM CHURCH PEOPLE AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN THAT OR NOT. THERE IS RIGHT AND WRONG, THERE IS BASIC HUMAN RIGHT AND HUMAN WRONG, I WOULD IMAGINE. MS. SMITH MS. SHERMAN MR. JOHNSON MR. MEDINA BAILEY MR. FOSTER MR. FELIX. YOU ALL HAVE CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN.
YOU HAVE NIECES, NEPHEWS, PEOPLE WHO YOU WILL WANT TO BE PROUD OF YOUR LEGACY.
AND THE BEGINNING OF THAT, AND I'M SORRY, MY LITTLE FROG, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO WARM UP.
REMINDS US OF THE MOVIE OF MAD MAX.
IT SHOULD BRING BACK TO ALL OF OUR MINDS THE ANARCHY THAT STARTS WITH SMALL DECISIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SMALL, WHAT YOU DO HERE IS IMPORTANT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT HERE IS IMPORTANT.
THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A LINE OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.
AND EVEN THOUGH MANY LEFT AND THEN SOME WENT TO THE STREET AND STARTED GETTING THAT COVERAGE, WHAT YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DECIDE TO DO IN YOUR CONSCIENCE IS IMPORTANT.
YES, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT GOD AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN HIM OR NOT. LET ME REMIND YOU OF PASCAL'S WAGER.
IF I HAVE LIVED MY LIFE AS A CHRIST FOLLOWER AND BEEN GOOD TO MY FELLOW MAN AND AS GOOD AS I CAN BE TO SOME OF MY FAMILY AND BOY, THEY TESTED JESUS IN ME.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THERE. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE WORST THING I'VE LIVED A GOOD LIFE OR AS GOOD AS I COULD, BELIEVE ME, I AM NO SAINT.
I HAVE A PAST. AND I'M NOT PERFECT NOW, BUT THEN I JUST LIVED A GOOD LIFE AND I GO ON TO DUST AND TO NOTHING BUT PASCAL'S WAGER, WHILE YOU MAY ROLL AN EYE ABOUT HEARING ALL ABOUT CHURCH AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO UNDER GOD, WHICH OUR CONSTITUTION WAS FOUNDED UNDER AND THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED UNDER, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS RIGHT THERE IS WRONG.
AND IF YOU TAKE THE WAGER THAT PASCAL OFFERS AND YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF IT, NOT ONLY WHERE YOU HAVE THE INHERITANCE FOR EACH OF YOUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, NIECES, NEPHEWS AND PEOPLE THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE A LEGACY GOOD IN YOUR NAME, YOU WILL ALSO LOSE IN THAT WAGER. AND I BEG YOU NOT TO DO THAT.
JAMES BOOTHROYD, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH A LIST OF FEW NAMES THAT WERE CALLED, BUT THEY DIDN'T COME UP EARLIER.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JAMES BOOTHROYD, 2068 SNAPDRAGONS DRIVE PALM BAY.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT HERE TODAY TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. THIS IS HOW GOOD GOVERNMENT WORKS.
BUT ALSO, I JUST WANT ALL OF YOU SITTING UP THERE TO REMEMBER THAT THE SEAT BEING VACATED BY MR. BAILEY WAS HE WAS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.
IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, JUST LIKE ALL OF YOUR SEATS IS THE PEOPLE'S SEATS.
SO THE PEOPLE SHOULD GET TO DECIDE WHO SITS UP THERE, NOT COUNCIL.
THIS ORDINANCE THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, WE'RE TOLD, WAS WRITTEN BY A STAFF MEMBER, NOT BY ANY OF YOU, A STAFF MEMBER WHO IS NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.
THIS ORDINANCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT OUT THERE IN A WORKSHOP, DEBATED, ADVERTISED, SO THE PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT THEY CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT THIS ORDINANCE CHANGED. SO YOU COULD HAVE INPUT ON THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
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SO I JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU NOT VOTE TO CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW.LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO BE IN THAT SEAT.
THANK YOU. AND I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THE NAMES ONCE, DALE DAVIS.
ANYONE OUT THERE? DEPUTY CHIEF? SCOTT CHAMBERLAIN. DAVID WALTON.
SEND JAMES SUMMER SUMMERS, ELLSON JAMES SUMMERS.
OF COURSE, THE COUNCIL LET ME JUST START BY SAYING, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE ALREADY SAID THIS, FIRST OF ALL.
NO ONE WANTS TO COMPROMISE THEIR WILL OR THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE.
A PRIVILEGE WAS GIVEN TO US BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS AND AS WE EVEN HEARD SO MANY TIMES BEFORE TONIGHT.
THE BLOOD THAT WAS PLACED ON THE ALTAR, IT WAS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
WE DO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AND I DO COMMEND.
COUNCILMAN BAILEY OR HIS SERVICE ON THIS COUNCIL, HE IS THE SENIOR COUNCILMAN ON THIS BOARD AND WE SHOULD HONOR AND RESPECT THE FACT THAT HE SERVED US.
WE AGREE. YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND WE SHOULDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT.
CONSIDERING ALL ANY ALTERNATIVE, REGARDLESS OF THE COST THAT THAT PRICE WAS PAID, YOU KNOW, I OFTEN THINK ABOUT THE PRICE THAT WAS PAID.
MANY PEOPLE SAY THE FOUNDING FATHERS PAID THAT PRICE.
AND I AGREE. THEY USE BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, COULD YOU IMAGINE COUNCIL? AT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS.
WHAT ABOUT THE PRICE THEN WE'D ALL BE SAYING, HAIL THE QUEEN.
WE WOULDN'T BE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
WE ARE AMERICANS, WE CLOTHE OURSELVES WITH THE FLAG.
AND THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IN MY OPINION, COUNCIL.
IS UNPATRIOTIC AND IT'S UN-AMERICAN.
IN ORDER COUNCILMAN WHAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? AT THIS POINT, NO MATTER, I'LL DEFER UNTIL WE GET TO OUR OUR EMOTION IN DEBATE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, DO YOU WISH TO SAY? COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? NOW I'M GOING TO GO BY PROTOCOL WHEN THE MOST SPEAK COUNCILMAN FELIX.
SO WHAT IS COUNCILMAN, CAROL? WHAT IS THE PLEASURE COUNCILMAN MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 21 50 FOR THE FIRST READING? A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
I'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND I'VE GOT A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
LET ME START OFF BY SAYING THIS.
I SERVED OVER 28 YEARS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, U.S.
MILITARY. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
I HAVE A BUSINESS HERE, FOSTER EXPERTS.
FIGHT FOR PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION.
OK, AND I BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE MY ANCESTORS.
A GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS A SLAVE.
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HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN'T GIVE HER THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
AT THE FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
OK, SO AND I SPEAK PLEASE, NO, NO, ALPERS, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T SAY NOTHING WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING IS MY TIME.
I'M TRYING TO GET I'M TRYING TO BE QUICK AT THE TIME.
SO I'M ALL FOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
ON HOW YOU FEEL AT THIS MOMENT, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND EXPRESSING AND HEARING YOU. I THINK YOU GOT A RIGHT TO BE HEARD AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
BEING VACATED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
YOU ELECTED HIM, PALM BAY ELECTED HIM TO SERVE OUT FOUR TERMS, HE'S NOT DOING THAT, HE'S NOT FULFILLING HIS TERM TERMS. YOU ELECTED ME. I KNEW I HAD TO SERVE FOUR TERMS. OK, I DON'T NOT.
SAYING SOMETHING BAD ABOUT BAILEY, HE MAKES HIS DECISION.
AND YOU WILL MAKE A DECISION WHO FILLS THAT SEAT? IN 2022.
AND AUGUST 20, 22, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIMARY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GENERAL ELECTION.
WE GOT TO PAY FOR THAT, BOTH OF THEM ELECTION.
OK, SO NO ONE IS TAKING YOUR RIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION IN 2022.
OK, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST STAND BY SECOND COUNCILMAN FOSTER, PLEASE.
NO ALPERS I COUNCIL IS NOW SPEAKING.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO NO ONE IS TAKING THAT DECISION.
IT'S ON THE SUPERVISED ELECTION THAT THIS SEAT IS GOING TO BE UP FOR ELECTION.
OK, AND AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW, NO ONE HAS APPLIED.
WHAT IS SEE IF YOU GO IN AND SUPERVISE THE ELECTION.
NO ONE HAS STEPPED UP AND SAY, I WANT TO BE IN SEAT FIVE NEXT YEAR, NOT ONE PERSON.
ONE PERSON IN THIS JOB, YOU KNOW, WHEN I RAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS EASY, BUT IT'S NOT THE TOUGH JOB AND YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS IS WHY.
BUT I'M FOR YOU AS FAR AS YOU GETTING THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
OK, THAT MAY SOUND CONFUSION, BUT I REALLY AM FOR YOU TO GET THE RIGHT TO VOTE BECAUSE BASED ON MY ANSWERS TO I DON'T WANT NO ONE VOTING RIGHTS TO BE TAKEN AWAY.
I FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY FOR FREEDOM.
WE ARE OVER 20 YEARS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCING LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY, VOTING LAWS AS A US MARSHAL DONE ALL OF THAT.
ALL THIS WEEK TOOK MANY A PHONE CALL.
WELL, EXCUSE ME. YEAH, MANY PHONE CALLS AND A LOT OF EMAILS AND I READ EVERY ONE OF THEM, EVERY EMAIL I READ SOME WASN'T SO NICE TO ME AND SOME MADE STATEMENTS THAT I NEVER EVEN MAKE THIS THE FIRST TIME.
I'M MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT THIS IN PUBLIC.
I DIDN'T DO IT, I DIDN'T GO TO THE NEWS MEDIA, I DIDN'T DO NO PRESS CONFERENCE.
AS I WANTED TO HERE, AND I WANT TO DO MY RESEARCH.
SO CAN YOU PUT UP THAT? IT'S ACTUALLY TO WE HAD A REFERENDUM IN 2012.
OK. I WASN'T IN PALM BAY 2012.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AND I DIDN'T VOTE ON THIS.
AND THEY VOTED TO GIVE THE COUNCIL.
VOTED TO GIVE THE COUNCIL THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE HOW WE FILL THIS VACANCY BY ORDINANCE, PRIOR TO THAT, IT WAS IN THE CHARTER.
IT WAS IN THE CHARTER AND IT WAS AND NOW IT TOOK IT OUT AND WE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BY ORDINANCE. IT SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE CHARTER.
AND WE WOULDN'T BE AT THIS PLACE IN TIME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE.
I TOOK AN OATH TO FOLLOW THE PALM BAY CHARTER.
AND ACCORDING TO THIS REFERENDUM, THAT OVER 63 PERCENT OF THE VOTERS VOTED ON.
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GAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE HOW A VACANCY WILL BE FILLED AND EVEN IN AN ORDINANCE. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CORRECTED.THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS THIS MIX AT THE FIRST PART SAID THIS WAS LESS THAN A YEAR.
YOU GO POINT. YOU GOT A POINT, IF IT'S LESS THAN A YEAR, YOU COULD POINT TO THIS, YOU POINT A PERSON, THE COUNCIL CAN APPOINT A PERSON TO THE SEAT.
RIGHT NOW, THE AUDIENCE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SAYS A COUNCIL CAN APPOINT.
THAT'S STILL TAKING AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE.
THE SECOND PART OF THAT ORDINANCE IS THE SECOND ORDER, THAT ORDINANCE, AS A RHETORICAL QUESTION, SIR. THE SECOND PART OF THAT ORDINANCE IS.
YOU HAVE 90 IF THIS LIST OF MORE THAN A YEAR, YOU HAVE 90 DAYS, 180 DAYS TO FILL.
THE FIVE. WITH A SPECIAL ELECTION.
WE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THIS OR IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
THE CHARTER REVIEW WAS SPLIT AND I KNOW THE NAMES ON THAT CHARTER REVIEW.
CHAIR WAS A DEMOCRAT AND THE VICE CHAIR WAS A REPUBLICAN.
IT WAS HEAVILY ARMED LEANING DEMOCRAT.
I DISAGREE WITH THAT CHARTER REVIEW, THE WAY THEY CAME OUT.
ON THIS REFERENDUM THAT PALM BAY IN 2012 VOTED FOR.
SO HERE'S HERE'S WHAT HERE'S THE WAY I SEE IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FOUR PERSON COUNCIL ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE WON'T GET ANYTHING, WE WON'T GET PALM BAY, WE WON'T GET TO THE BUSINESS OF PALM BAY DONE. AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION WITH THESE NEW LAWS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EARLY VOTING AND VOTE BY MAIL AND ALL OF THIS VOTER SUPPRESSION THAT THE STATE HAS PUT ON US.
THEY CHANGE THE WAY WE VOTE FROM 2020.
ST.. OH, NOW IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.
IF YOU DON'T DURING A PANDEMIC LAST TIME IN 2020, WHEN WE HAD EARLY VOTING AT KOGAN, WE HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE CORONAVIRUS.
NOW AND WE'RE GOING IN THE FALL, THE PANDEMIC'S GOING TO GET WORSE.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET WORSE. I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DELTA, VERY PLEASE KNOW ALSO THAT, PLEASE.
WE ARE WE ARE PUTIN, WE ARE PUTIN, I HAVE NO SPECIAL ELECTION ONE HOULTON BUSINESS, WE HAD A A A BUKHARA MEETING WHERE WE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD. THE WHOLE COUNCIL PLUS TWO OTHER MEMBERS WAS ON THAT BOARD AND ONE DIDN'T SHOW UP.
WE HAD A TIE VOTE ON A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
WE HAD TO CANCEL THAT AND RESCHEDULE THAT THAT HAPPEN.
AND THAT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THIS DIET. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SEVEN OR FIVE IS THE REASON FOR THAT.
YOU DON'T HAVE THESE TYPE VOTES.
WE DON'T HAVE THESE TIGHT VOTES, SO.
I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
LET'S CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE AND COME BACK AND CHANGE THE CHARTER TO REFLECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WANT A SPECIAL ELECTION.
WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CHARTER AND THE CHARTER NEEDS TO SPEAK THAT.
IF THE CHARTER IS CHANGED TO THAT AND TAKE IT OUT OF THE HANDS OF COUNSEL, BUT BY CHANGING THIS ORDINANCE.
WE ARE IN LINE WITH MELBOURNE, AND I DON'T THINK MELBOURNE IS TAKING A CITIZEN RIGHTS TO VOTE AWAY WEST MELBOURNE.
I DON'T THINK THEY ARE TAKING A CITIZEN RIGHT TO VOTE AWAY.
COKO. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE SAME.
THIS LANGUAGE FITS COCOA AND TITUSVILLE.
AND THEY POINT MELBOURNE, WEST MELBOURNE, COCO, TITUSVILLE, WHEN IT'S A VACANCY, THEY APPOINT THEY COUNCIL MEMBER.
PRESIDENT APPOINTS PEOPLE APPOINTMENTS.
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NOT TAKING YOUR YOUR CONSTITUTION RIGHT AWAY.NO ONE IS STOPPING THE TWENTY TWENTY TWO ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER AND AUGUST OR PALM BAY.
I AM, I REALLY AM, AND BECAUSE I SERVED.
WELL, I SERVED AND I UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION MORE TIMES THAN I COULD COUNT IN DIFFERENT POSITIONS IN MY LIFETIME.
SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I PASS MY TIME.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR OF JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I SECOND THE MOTION BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR THIS DISCUSSION AND FIRST OF ALL, THE AMOUNT OF EMAILS AND CALLS, TEXT MESSAGES, EVERYTHING I'VE RECEIVED, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR REACHING OUT.
I LOVE SEEING THIS. WE NEED TO SEE MORE OF THIS MR. CHAYEFSKY SAID IT SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE.
MR. MORAN SAID MR BATTEN KNOWS THAT AS WELL.
WE NEED TO SEE MORE PEOPLE LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME.
AND I TRY TO GET BACK TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS I COULD FOR THOSE THAT COULDN'T APOLOGIZE.
BUT I WOULD STILL GET BACK TO YOU AFTER THIS MEETING ON.
WITH THIS, I AGREE I AGREE WITH A LOT OF YOU ON THE FACT THAT WE CAN GET THE MONEY FOR IT BECAUSE WE DON'T CHANGE ORDERS FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WE DON'T CHANGE ORDERS FOR PARTS, WE DON'T CHANGE ORDERS FOR SLIDE'S.
WE DON'T CHANGE ORDERS FOR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND TO ME, IT'S A GIVEN THAT THIS IS THE EASIEST CHOICE.
BUT I ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
AND THAT'S WHY I PERSONALLY I TALK TO STAFF AFTER THIS CAME ONTO THE AGENDA LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND IN LOOKING AT IT FROM A HIGHER SCOPE, I'M LOOKING AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT REMINDED ME BECAUSE I'M LIKE, OK, WE'RE GOING TO FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR A MINIMUM OF THREE MONTHS TO POSSIBLY SIX MONTHS.
A MINIMUM OF THREE MONTHS TO POSSIBLY SIX MONTHS, AND HE'S RIGHT, THE BCR MEETING ALMOST A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, THAT ONLY A FEW PEOPLE HERE WERE AT WHICH WOULD WHICH IT WAS IT WAS A BIG KEY ITEM FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS A THREE THREE VOTE.
AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS WHO, YOU KNOW, WAS ON ON AN INTERVIEW WITH THE MAYOR EARLIER THIS WEEK WAS NOT THERE.
WE HAD TO RALLY UP AND TRY TO DO A SPECIAL MEETING THE WEEK AFTER AND TRY TO HAVE THE VOTE IN. LUCKILY, WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A FOURTH ACTUALLY A SIX ONE VOTE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WITH ONLY FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL INSTANCES AND PEOPLE CAN DO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, THE SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE IT'S BEEN ME AND THE MAYOR VOTING ONE WAY OR ME, THE MAYOR COUNCILMAN BAILEY VOTING ONE WAY, COUNCILMAN FELIX COUNCILMAN FOSTER OR ME, COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND MAYOR MEDINA, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY AND COUNCILMAN FELIX VOTE IN ONE WAY.
SO IT'S BEEN THREE TO SEVERAL TIMES EITHER WAY.
SO YOU TAKE AWAY ONE COUNCILMAN AND THAT'S TUTUT.
AND IN OUR ORDINANCES, IF IT'S A TWO TWO VOTE FOR A LOT OF THESE KEY ITEMS, IT DIES.
SO THAT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION, THAT INCLUDES BUSINESSES, THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT INCLUDES SETBACK EASEMENTS.
WHEN A RESIDENT COMES BEFORE US, THAT INCLUDES A LOT.
AND THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN IS.
I KNOW WE CAN GET THE MONEY FOR IT.
I AGREE. I THINK WE CAN GET THE MONEY FOR MY CONCERN IS THE PART WHERE WE HINDER OURSELVES FROM GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, EMEK LANDING SHOULD HAVE BEEN PALM BAY.
WE ALL KNOW THAT. IT'S NOT IT IS NOT IS NOT NEWS, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT, SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE MY MAIN CONCERN IS AND.
I JUST WITH THAT, THAT'S THAT'S ALARMING AND IT SHOULD BE ALARMING FOR EVERYBODY.
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS AND I WANT TO ADDRESS IT RESPECTFULLY, IS THE TERM UNPATRIOTIC AND UN-AMERICAN? YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN WE SAY THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IT CAN COME OFF WRONG AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR STAFF WHEN WE'RE SAYING THEY CAN PUT A BOW TIE ON IT.
THEY CAN MAKE IT A NICE PRESENTATION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT CAN COME OFF WRONG.
SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT WE SAY AND UNPATRIOTIC.
WE HAVE WHAT IS WHAT HE MENTIONED, WEST MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE AND OTHER CITIES.
THEY HAVE THIS. AND IF THEY'RE WATCHING AND LISTENING AND THEY HEAR THIS, THEY CAN TAKE OFFENSE FROM IT. I DON'T TAKE OFFENSE FROM IT, BUT THEY CAN TAKE OFFENSE FROM IT.
SO I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL WITH THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, JUST RECENTLY, THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.
AND I'M I'M SAYING ALL THIS JUST TO EDUCATE OR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T GONE TO PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS OR WHO DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE STATE LEGISLATOR, BECAUSE OVER A MONTH AGO, SENATE BILL 90 WAS PASSED, A SENATE BILL 90 WAS PASSED.
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IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY, OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED AND SIGNED BY A GOVERNOR WHO I DON'T THINK IS UNPATRIOTIC. AND I DON'T THINK HE'S TRYING TO REPRESS ANYBODY.I CONSIDER HIM FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
ME PERSONALLY, AND YOU ALL KNOW MY PARTY, BUT I FEEL I'M FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
BUT THE SENATE BILL 90 HAD TO PRINT IT OUT BECAUSE I WAS I WAS WATCHING IT.
IT REPEALS THE REQUIREMENT THAT IN THE CASE OF AN ELECTIVE OFFICE, THERE WERE QUIET RESIGNATION MUST BE FILLED BY ELECTION.
SO I REPEAT THAT IT REPEALS THE REQUIREMENT THAT IN THE CASE OF AN ELECTIVE OFFICE, THE REQUIRED RESIGNATION MUST BE FILLED BY ELECTION.
I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO LOOK THIS UP.
THE BILL ALSO THEN GOES ON TO STATE THAT EACH MUNICIPALITY SHALL, BY IN ITS OR CHARTER PROVISION, PROVIDE PROCEDURES FOR FILLING A VACANCY IN OFFICE CAUSED BY DEATH, RESIGNATION OR REMOVAL FROM OFFICE.
AND LASTLY, IT ALSO STATES WOULD NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDE IT FOR IN THIS CONSTITUTION, THE GOVERNOR SHALL FILL BY APPOINTMENT ANY VACANCY IN STATE OR COUNTY OFFICE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM OF APPOINTIVE OFFICE AND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM OF AN ELECTIVE OFFICE IF LESS THAN TWENTY EIGHT MONTHS.
SO I'M SAYING ALL THAT TO SAY.
I KNOW I LOVE FLORIDA LAW IS THE BEST STATE OUT OF ALL 40, ALL 50 STATES, AND I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING UNPATRIOTIC, BECAUSE IF THAT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE'RE WE'RE SAYING ALL THIS IS UNPATRIOTIC.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'D BE CAREFUL WITH OUR WORDS AND ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I'M JUST READING THE BODY LANGUAGE, I THINK.
COME ON. WRONG, BUT I THINK AN APOLOGY IS OWED TO STAFF BECAUSE IT'S THEIR JOB JUST TO BRING POSSIBILITIES, OPTIONS.
AND WHEN WE SAY STUFF LIKE THAT, IT CAN COME OFF WRONG, AND I'VE SEEN IT IN THE PAST OF PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE ACCUSING DIFFERENT STAFF WHO I KNOW TO BE UPRIGHT, YES, WE'VE HAD CORRUPTION IN THE PAST AND A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONE.
MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONE.
THIS IS A NEW STAFF RIGHT HERE.
I'M TALKING YOU HAD YOUR TIME.
SO. I JUST PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION AS EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE ACCORDINGLY AND ACT ACCORDINGLY.
SO THAT'S ALL IN THERE. THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN. BAILEY OR COUNCILMAN.
COUNCILMAN BAILEY. AMERICA AHEAD REAL QUICK, I KNOW USUALLY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY THE MAYOR CUSTOMARILY GOES LAST ANYWAYS.
DEPENDS ON HOW PASSIONATE THEY GET ON AN ISSUE.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE LED ON THIS ISSUE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? WE DO KNOW THAT I'M SURE YOU HAVE MORE SAY.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS AN ISSUE.
LET ME LET ME BE CLEAR, BECAUSE I DID ASK QUESTIONS, THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED TONIGHT THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING.
WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? WHY THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES NEVER COULD HAVE EVER ENVISIONED THAT THIS IS WHAT THIS WAS GOING TO LEAD, THAT THIS WAS GOING TO COME BEFORE US.
NEVER A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK ONE PERSON SAID SOMETHING LIKE, THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE UP HERE THAT WAS DOING THEM LIKE IT WASN'T ME.
THEY CAN ATTEST. I WAS NOT NOTICED OF THIS UNTIL TUESDAY BEFORE LAST THAT THIS WAS A THOUGHT. RECORDS REQUESTS HAVE SHOWN THAT EVIDENTLY ALL FOUR OF US ON THIS NOTE FROM THE MAYOR DOWN WERE ALL NOTIFIED THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT THE EMAIL RECORD SHOWS.
I KNOW THE DEPUTY MAYOR WAS HAVING CONVERSATIONS THE FRIDAY BEFORE, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY AFTER. I NOW KNOW THAT THEY WRITE IN 12 HOURS, WITHIN 12 HOURS.
HE WAS GETTING CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO ON THESE TYPE OF ISSUES. SO, NO, FOR ME, I WHENEVER I LOOKED AT IT, I SAID, NO, I'M GOING TO STEP BACK.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME.
AND I HAVE WANTED TO SAY WHICH WAY I WAS GOING TO VOTE ON IT.
I WANTED TO HEAR EVERYBODY OUT.
IT WAS KIND OF TOOK ME, YOU KNOW, BY SURPRISE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
AND EVEN OUR OFFICERS, THEY CAN TELL YOU THAT TO WHENEVER I HEARD IT, MY EYES GOT A LITTLE BIT BIG BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY.
AND THEN AND THEN THING DOESN'T CAUSE THIS MUCH TROUBLE.
BUT IN THE END, MY BOTTOM LINE IS THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME OR PLACE IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED.
WE HAD A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IN 2016.
THEY WENT LINE BY LINE THROUGH THIS SECTION OF OUR CHARTER.
AND NO, THEY DIDN'T SAY LET'S MAKE ANY CHANGES THERE.
IT'S BEEN ON OUR ORDINANCES FOR SOME TIME.
THERE WAS NO OTHER SUGGESTION THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
YES, SPECIAL ELECTIONS HAVE COST.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THAT SADDENS ME AS BEING THE PERSON UP HERE HAS REALLY FOUGHT HARD AND AT TIMES BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SAVING MONEY.
I'VE CERTAINLY NOW PUSHED IN MORE THAN ENOUGH ITEMS TO SAVE THE 250 OR 100000, WHATEVER THE ESTIMATE ENDS UP BEING, WHERE THE COST ENDS UP BEING FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION, WHETHER
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IT'S THE LOW END OR HIGH END.BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IN MY OPINION AND SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER, NO WORKSHOPPING IT, I THINK MY OPINION WHAT SHOULD BE DONE FROM HERE MOVING FORWARD IS THAT IT SHOULD BE PASSED. WE'RE ABOUT TO DO A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
SO EVERY TEN YEARS BY STATE LAW, WE REVIEW IT.
AND 2012 WAS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED ONE.
SO NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO DO A NEXT ONE.
NEXT YEAR, YOU, THE PEOPLE WILL BE VOTING ON SOMETHING FOR CHARTER CHANGES.
I THINK THAT THE COMMISSION THAT'S PUT TOGETHER SHOULD BE TASKED TO LOOKING AT THAT PROVISION IN THE CHARTER AND WHATEVER WHATEVER WE WANT TO PUT IN THERE, WHATEVER STAFF OR THIS BODY. I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
I MEAN, THIS THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO BENEFIT ME.
NOW, BY THE WAY, I HAD NO INTEREST IN TRYING TO PUSH THIS, BUT WHATEVER THEY WHATEVER THEY PUSH AT THAT POINT, IT WILL GO TO THE VOTERS IN 2022.
THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. AND THEN THE VOTERS WILL VOTE FOR IT.
WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WHERE WE DO THIS MORE LIBERAL APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND GIVE COUNCIL MORE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT THE PEOPLE, HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE ON OR IF THAT COMMISSION COMES BACK IN, THE BODY SAYS WE DON'T WANT TO POINT AT ALL AND WE DON'T.
WE ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION WHEN IT'S FEASIBLE.
IT COULD DO THAT, TOO, BUT THE PEOPLE WILL GET TO VOTE ON IT IN TWENTY, TWENTY TWO RATHER THAN US DECIDING QUICKLY.
YOU KNOW, I TOLD CHARTER OFFICERS AND SOMEWHAT JOKINGLY SAID, WHY COULDN'T THEY WAIT TILL I LEFT? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME FALSE PREMISES OUT THERE THINKING THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TWO MEETINGS I GAVE TO ME KNOWS THAT IT TAKES TWO MINUTES FOR A READING THAT THIS SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, CORRESPONDS.
I'VE GOT TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE I LEAVE.
THAT'S NOT TRUE. THEY COULD DO IT NEXT.
NO, NEXT MONTH, ANY TIME LONG AS THEY DON'T VIOLATE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WHICH ALLOWS THEM SIX I'M SORRY, NINE HUNDRED EIGHTY DAYS.
SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, NO, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I WANT TO GO OUT.
IT'S NOT THE WAY, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW, FEEL GOOD ABOUT HAVING THE SPECIAL ELECTION, BUT I GOTTA DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR MY FAMILY AND NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR AND MY WIFE'S NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR.
AND I KNOW THAT SHE HAS MY BACK.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IN THE WORLD.
LOVE YOU GUYS ARE IN THE AUDIENCE.
YOU GUYS. I'VE KNOWN A LOT OF YOU GUYS OVER THE YEARS.
A LOT OF YOU GUYS. I MEAN, I LOVE THE DEAF.
AND I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.
I'M JUST KIND OF DEALING WITH THE MOTIONS OF, OK, I'M LEAVING THE CITY I LOVE.
I REALLY DO LOVE IT. THERE'S THINGS WITH MY FAMILY.
WE WANT TO LIVE A MORE RURAL LIFESTYLE THAT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT HERE AND ACCOMPLISH SOME OF OUR OTHER FAMILY GOALS.
AND SO THEN WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF MOVING AND SO FORTH.
SO FORGIVE ME, I'M A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE WITH WITH A WITH A BRAWL.
THIS IS NOT HOW I WANT IT, BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT.
BUT IN THE END, YOU KNOW, EITHER THERE'S THREE OUT, THREE VOTES, THE REMAINING OR NOT.
LET ME ADDRESS REAL QUICK THIS IDEA OF A TWO TO TWO VOTE, THOUGH.
IF YOU CAN'T GET THREE VOTES OUT OF THE FOUR AT BASKET, THAT'S THE BAILEY.
BUT IF YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MY POSITION, HOW I SEE THINGS, I DON'T SEE THINGS, HOW EVERYBODY ELSE DOES ALL THE TIME.
BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY POINT ON THAT.
BUT BUT I DON'T I DON'T THINK I KNOW IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL.
I WENT OVER IT WITH OUR ATTORNEYS.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO PUT FOR THE RECORD, AND I ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ASKED IT EARLIER, BUT THERE IS NO GENERAL ELECTION IN PALM BAY IN 2000, 2000, 2001.
THERE IS NONE. SO THAT PROVISION ABOUT 90, 100 DAYS.
AND RELATING THAT TO THE GENERAL ELECTION IT'S HAPPENED IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IS IRRELEVANT TO PALM BAY.
PALM BAY HAS NONE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOTHING SNEAKY ABOUT THE TIMING.
THE TIMING WAS BASED ON WHEN MY MY FAMILY, WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE JOB AND AND COMMIT TO IT. AND AND SO IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND LED UP TO IT.
BUT I WANTED TO GIVE AT LEAST SOME TIME AND THANKFULLY I DID, BECAUSE IT ALLOWED ME AT LEAST BE A LITTLE BIT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE WAY I WANT TO GO OUT WITH, LIKE I SAY, WITH THE HARRAR.
BUT AROUND THIS ISSUE, I'D RATHER GO OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
PEOPLE I THINK MOST PEOPLE DO KNOW JUST NOW I FELT LIKE THINGS WERE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE WHEN I STARTED THIS POSITION.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST FOUGHT TO TRY TO RESET SOME OF THE PIECES.
THERE WERE CERTAINLY SOME DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE THAT WEREN'T THE RIGHT DECISIONS, I THINK CAUSED SOME TURMOIL.
AND I WAS HERE AND MY MY GOAL FOR THE LAST SIX, SIX AND A HALF YEARS HAS BEEN HOW CAN I HOW CAN I HELP PALM BAY MOVE FORWARD? AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'VE DEDICATED MY LIFE TO AND I'M JUST NOW I'M JUST HOPING AND MY FAMILY KNOWS WHAT TIME I'VE PUT INTO IT.
LOVE. YOU GUYS KNOW THAT, TOO, ACTUALLY.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST HOPING THAT COUNCIL NOW CONSIDERS THAT.
I KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM FOUR OUT OF FIVE ESSENTIALLY AT THIS POINT.
SO IT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE ON COUNCILMAN FOSTER RIGHT NOW.
I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN FELIX RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M SURE HE'S GOING TO BE THOUGHTFUL WITH IT.
I KNOW HE'S A MAN OF GOD TOO, AND THINK EVERYTHING THROUGH AND AND I JUST APPRECIATE FREESHEET, EVERYBODY UP HERE.
SO WE HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
JUST LET THE PEOPLE VOTE NEXT YEAR.
I FIRST I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR BEING SO PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE.
I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT CALLED ME TO TELL ME THAT YOU KNEW THAT I WOULDN'T SUPPORT AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CHANGE MIDSTREAM WHEN SOMEONE RESIGNS.
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THERE WAS NO PRESS RELEASE, THERE WAS NO PRESS CONFERENCE WHAT OCCURRED? WAS A CONTACT FROM THE NEWS, CONTACTED ME TO MAKE A COMMENT.THEY KNEW I WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS A COMMENT REGARDING THE STATEMENT IN THE NEWSPAPER.
THEY CONTACTED ME BECAUSE THEY KNEW I HAD RESPONDED TO SO MANY EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED FROM OUR CONSTITUENCY, FROM ALL THE PALM BAY.
I RESPONDED TO EACH AND EVERY ONE UNTIL I WALKED THROUGH THOSE DOORS.
LETTING THEM KNOW HOW I FELT ABOUT THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE WHEN THERE IS AN EXISTING ORDINANCE ORDINANCE, IT SAYS OVER A YEAR SPECIAL ELECTION.
AND MY COMMENTS ABOUT BEING UNPATRIOTIC, UN-AMERICAN.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, THEY STILL STAND WHEN I SAY WHEN I SAY YOU COULD GIFT WRAP IT, PUT A BOW TIE ON IT, PUT A BOW ON IT.
I MEAN IT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS.
IT AFFECTS THE INDIVIDUAL'S VOTE.
AND I WILL I WILL NEVER, EVER COMPROMISE THAT IN MY LIFETIME REGARDLESS.
REGARDLESS. I WRAPPED MYSELF AROUND THE RIGHT TO VOTE MANY NATIONS.
MANY NATIONS THROUGHOUT THE GLOBE LOOK AT US AS A BEACON OF HOPE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
AND I MAKE NO EXCUSES, BUT I ALSO SAY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
MY FATHER CAME TO THIS NATION AS AN IMMIGRANT, AS A MAN THAT CAME OUT OF AN ORPHANAGE WHERE ONE SKILL BECAME A BUSINESS OWNER.
ON HIS FACE WAS WHEN I EARNED MY PGA, THE EAGLE GLOBE AND ANCHOR, AND HE ALWAYS SAID TO ME, WE ALWAYS IN THIS NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I WOULDN'T EVEN FATHOM TO THINK.
OF REMOVING WHETHER IT'S FOR TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, A YEAR TO TAKE THAT POWER AWAY FROM YOU. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING BUT THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
I BLEED RED, WHITE AND BLUE, LIKE I AM UNAPOLOGETIC OF THAT FACT. I UNDERSTAND THAT MY WORDS.
MAY HARM SOMEONE, MAY WOUND SOMEONE, AND IF THAT IS THE CASE.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS NOT MY INTENT.
MY INTENT IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE PASSION THAT I HAVE FOR THIS NATION, FOR THIS FLAG.
YEAH, COUNCILMAN FELIX, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR.
LET ME FIRST SAY IT'S SHOW THAT IT IS A PRIVILEGE, IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME TO SIT HERE TO SERVE YOU. I THINK THE QUESTION TONIGHT, IT'S ABOUT RIGHT TO VOTE I.
PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS BODY, I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE THAT NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE AWAY AND TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE.
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I WAS NOT BORN IN THE STATES.I CAME HERE. I'M FROM A COUNTRY THAT.
IT WAS A LUXURY, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT YOUR LIFE IN IN IN IN LINE.
SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO GO VOTE, SO I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, AND I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM NO ONE.
AND I PAID ATTENTION TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.
AND COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT NOT PAYING ATTENTION, NOT LOOKING.
I PAID ATTENTION, CLOSE ATTENTION TO EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WAS SAID.
AND I'LL BE HONEST, I CAME HERE WITH MY MIND SET.
AND I TOOK BACK WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE, AND I REALLY.
I THINK PART OF THE QUESTION IS THE I THINK COUNCILMAN BAILEY FOSTER MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE.
MOST OF THE COMMENTS WERE MADE IN REGARDS OF THE TIME FRAME, THE 90 DAYS.
SO CHANCES ARE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FULL BODY FOR FOUR MONTHS BASED ON THE REPORT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION.
WE MAY NOT HAVE AN ELECTION UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.
WHAT DO WE DO IN THE MEANTIME, JUST I'M JUST PAUSING, ASKING QUESTIONS, WHAT DO WE DO IN THE MEANTIME WITH A BODY OF FOUR PEOPLE? I KNOW BY NO MEANS THE MONEY SHOULD BE AN ISSUE, AND I TOTALLY AGREE.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE WAY THE THE ORDINANCE IS CURRENTLY, THE LANGUAGE POSE A PROBLEM THAT I THINK WE SHOULD TO SOME EXTENT DISCUSS IT BEFORE WE CALL A VOTE.
I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TAKES PLACE FROM THE TIME ON THE 5TH, AUGUST 5TH.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOULD WE GO THAT ROUTE? WHAT TAKES PLACE? I JUST THE QUESTION I THINK THAT'S WORTH TAKING IN CONSIDERATION AS WE.
I KNOW THERE'S A MEMBER HERE FROM THE BCI, IT HAPPENS BEFORE WE HAVE NO TIE BREAKER, WE APPOINT SOMEBODY FOR FOUR MONTHS.
THERE'S NO SUCH LANGUAGE UNTIL THAT ELECTION.
I THINK IT'S WORTH THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE WE QUICKLY TO TAKE A VOTE.
IN FACT, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY WIFE PRESENCE, THIS THING SO HOT.
NOW SHE'S IN THE ROOM WATCHING ME, HER EYES ALL RIGHT ON ME.
I'M LIKE, MAN, SHE'S TEXTING ME THE WHOLE TIME.
I'M CALLING ME. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? THE RIGHT THING. DO THE JESUS THING.
AND LIKE I SAID AGAIN, IT'S TRULY A PRIVILEGE FOR SOMEBODY THAT, AGAIN, FOR PALM BAY ELECTED ME.
AND I BELIEVE TO SOME EXTENT, 29000 VOTERS.
ENTRUSTED THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR VOTE IN MAY, I DON'T TAKE THAT VERY LIGHTLY.
I'M TRULY HAVING A HARD TIME HERE EITHER.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BY ANY MEANS I UNDERSTAND AND I RESPECT YOUR RIGHT.
I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT, THAT PORTION OF IT, WE WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT MAYBE STUFF CAN HELP US.
CITY ATTORNEY. SO, MADAM ATTORNEY, MADAM SMITH, WOULD YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? I KIND OF LOVE WHAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY SAID.
YOU KNOW, THREE TO ONE IS, IS WHERE THE PROJECTS THAT IT GOES IS JUST GOING TO BE A RESPONSIBILITY ON THE FOUR OF US TO MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY STUDY THE ISSUES ON THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL THAT WAS MENTIONED.
I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ALL HERE ON ON A COMMERCIAL AGENDA, INCREASING COMMERCIAL BASE, COUNCILMAN FELIX. AND THEN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY TOUCHED MY HEART WAS HAMMACK LANDING, HAMMACK LANDING.
IT WAS IN THAT ERA THERE WAS A A OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO BELONG TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND THE DIFFERENCE IS THE IDEOLOGY IS DIFFERENT.
THE LEADERS OF THAT OF YESTERYEAR WANTED PALM BAY TO REMAIN A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
THESE FOLKS ARE THE FOLKS HERE HAVE DEMONSTRATED AND STATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT WE WANT TO BE MORE INTO A HIGHER COMMERCIAL BASE.
COUNCILMAN FELIX HAD A CONCERN AND HE WANTED TO SEE IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT, YES, ONCE.
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THE RESIGNATION IS EFFECTIVE, WE WOULD GIVE NOTICE TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.THE STATUTE ALLOWS THE SUPERVISOR, ADVISER OF ELECTION TO ACTUALLY SET THE DATE IS ONLY WITH THE CONSENT OF THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION.
SO WE LET HER KNOW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DICTATE TO HER WHEN THE ELECTION IS GOING TO BE HELD. THAT HELP YOU COUNCILMAN FELIX.
YES, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, ACCORDING TO THE LANGUAGE, SO THE IT WOULD BE A BODY OF FOUR UNTIL IF IT TAKES FOUR OR SIX MONTHS, UP TO SIX MONTHS, WHICH IS A MAXIMUM.
A GREAT. UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, YES.
WELL, AS FAR AS THE CURRENT VACANCY ORDERS, YES.
ER AND I COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THIS IS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT WHEN IT COMES TO VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL.
OR GOING FORTH AND THE ISSUES COMING BEFORE COUNCIL WILL VOTE VARIO FOR, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT? WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE BUSINESS IN PALM BAY? THAT DONE? AS FAR AS THE LEGAL EFFECT OF A TIE VOTE, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE LAND USES, IT IS A TIE VOTE, IT FAILS, AND UNDER OUR CURRENT CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE SAME OR SIMILAR ISSUE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
AND THE REASON WHY I WANTED HER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
THAT'S WHERE I MADE MY DECISION AT NOT TO TAKE AWAY ANYBODY RIGHT TO VOTE.
I WAS ELECTED TO DO THE BUSINESS OF PALM BAY.
AND THEY REPRESENT YOU AND I'M TRYING TO DO IT THE BEST WAY I CAN.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND NOT NOT AGREE WITH YOU.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
I'VE BEEN PUSHING THAT EVER SINCE I RAN SINCE 2000, 16 PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND VOTE.
I DO THAT ALL THE TIME NOW FOR.
TAKING ANYBODY RIGHT AWAY, BUT WE YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON JEFF BAILEY SEAT.
I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THEM, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON YOUR ON YOUR VOTE IN TWENTY, TWENTY TWO, I WANT YOU TO GO OUT TO VOTE.
I WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THIS SEAT.
WE HAVE WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE WHERE.
IT CAN STYMIE THE BUSINESS AND PALM BAY AND COSTS US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.
MORE THAN THAT, 250000 DOLLARS.
THAT'S THE WAY I SEE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX, DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE ATTORNEY? NO MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON COUNCILMAN BAILEY, YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, ONE THING I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, IF THERE IS ANY MARGINAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TIMELINES OF WHEN THE ELECTION COMES OUT, I THINK PART OF OUR CODE SAYS WE GIVE 60 DAYS, NO SUPERVISED ELECTION. OF COURSE, WE ALREADY KNOW UP THERE EVERYWHERE.
BUT OUR CHARTER SAYS IT WON'T BE UNTIL 90 DAYS OUT AT THAT 90 DAYS IF IN ANY WAY WOULD REDUCE THE COST BY CHANGING THE 90 DAYS TO, SAY, 75 DAYS.
OR THE LAWREN, AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO IT CONCURRENTLY WITH NOT OUR CITY, WE DON'T HAVE A GENERAL ELECTION, BUT OTHERS DO.
THAT WOULD BE OK WITH AND IF THAT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD SAVE US THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT IF IT SAVES US A FEW THOUSAND, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE COMPROMISE.
I DO THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER CHANGES IN HERE THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM STAFF THAT THEY'VE SAID IS KNOW KIND OF LIKE STATUTORILY REQUIRED.
SO THERE'S OTHER LITTLE PROVISIONS, MAYBE A CHANGE.
BUT WE'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, ONE, IF WE GO TO THE STATE STATUTES AND IT'S SAYING THAT THERE'S A A LATER DEADLINE FOR A CANDIDATE TO FILE CHARGES EARLIER.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO OR THAT'S SOMETHING WE PREEMPTED OR WERE YOU ALLOWED TO DO? EVERYTHING WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO, WE SHOULD DO.
SIR, THERE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT RELATES TO.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING IN HERE RELATED TO THAT.
THE CHANGES THAT I PUT FORTH AREN'T RELATED TO THE VACANCIES.
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THE ONLY CHANGES THAT I PUT FORTH ARE RELATED ARE THE OTHER PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE.AND IT'S BECAUSE MANY OF THEM WERE OUTDATED.
THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE CLEARLY THAT, SAY, OUR CLERK DOES, THAT ARE CLEARLY IN THE STATUTE, THAT SAYS THAT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TAKES CARE OF THOSE.
AND AND WHAT I DRAFTED AND PRESENTED TO THE CLERK ON EACH ONE OF THOSE CITED WHAT THE STATUTE WAS, WHAT THE CHARTER WAS, WHAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION WAS.
AND EVEN IN HER WHEN SHE DRAFTED THE ORDINANCE, SHE'S PUT THOSE PARTICULAR STATUTES OR CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS OR THE CHARTER PROVISION.
BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE IN THE OTHER ORDINANCES WHERE THERE WAS A CHOICE, AMONG OTHER OPTIONS, IN WHICH WE JUST CHOSE ONE.
THE ONLY PART OF THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH THERE IS ESSENTIALLY A CHOICE AMONG OPTIONS IS, IS REALLY THE VACANCY YOU CAN LEAVE A VACANCY AS IT IS, IS LEGAL.
YOU CAN CHANGE IT. IT'S LEGAL.
BUT THE OTHER ITEMS ARE THINGS THAT ARE DUE TO CONFLICT WITH LAW.
AND THAT COUNCIL SHOULD CHANGE IF THEY EITHER CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW OR THEY CONFLICT WITH OUR CHARTER. LET ME LET ME LET ME FOLLOW UP REAL QUICK, MAYOR, SO LET ME GO SPECIFICALLY, I THINK I'VE FOUND WHAT BECAUSE I THINK A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS SPOKE AND I THINK WHAT THEY WERE SPEAKING TO GO TO SECTION FIFTY POINT ZERO EIGHT, PLEASE.
AND WHAT YOU DO HAVE WRITTEN OVER THERE, UNDER THERE, IT SAYS SECTION ONE HUNDRED ONE POINT SEVENTY FIVE FOUR STATUTES, DELEGATES, AUTHORITY TO THE CITY TO MOVE THE DATE AND QUALIFYING PERIOD.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SPEAKING TO, IS QUALIFYING PERIOD OF ANY MS. ELECTION TO A DATE CONCURRENT WITH OTHER STATE AND COUNTY WIDE ELECTIONS.
SO IF I'M READING THAT CORRECTLY, MS. MS. THAT SAYING THAT WE CAN MAKE IT.
THAT WAY, STACHER SAYS, WE CAN DO IT WHERE IT LINES UP WITH COUNTY AND STATEWIDE.
WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE CONCERNED FROM THE PUBLIC IS THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO SHORTEN OUR WINDOW THAT ARE WHEN THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT WIDER TO ALLOW CANDIDATES AND COMPARED TO STATE OR COUNTY WIDE ELECTIONS.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? THAT WAS NOT A PROPOSED CHANGE OF MINE.
SO I WOULD DEFER TO THE CLERK.
I DID PULL THAT DIRECTLY FROM THE FLORIDA STATUTES BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE DID INFLICT. OH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS.
WELL, THE WAY I READ IT IN THE U.S.A.
AND SO ORIGINALLY IT READ, NO PERSON MAY QUALIFY AS A CANDIDATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION POINT FIVE ZERO FIFTY TEN PRIOR TO THE 78 DAY PRECEDING THE NEXT MUNICIPAL ELECTION, NOR LATER THAN FIVE O'CLOCK LOCAL TIME ON ITS FOURTH DAY.
THAT'S ME. OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT OUR PRE QUALIFYING.
CORRECT? OH, SO PREQUALIFIED WHEN SOMEBODY ALLOWED TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO ANNOUNCE THEY'RE GOING TO RUN FOR A SEAT, THEY CAN DO THAT AT ANY TIME AND THEY CAN GET YOUR PAPERWORK AND THEY'LL FILE IN WITH YOU AS ELECTION OFFICIAL FOR ISD, CORRECT? RIGHT. SO THE ONLY THING IN THERE IS YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT WE USUALLY IT'S A QUALIFYING WEEK. IT'S USUALLY SAYS 17TH DATES.
EVERY FOURTH DATE IS USUALLY ABOUT FIVE BUSINESS DAYS WHERE WHERE WE ACTUALLY QUALIFY.
WE RUN FOR OFFICE, WE ANNOUNCE WE THREE QUALIFY.
WE HAVE OUR CAMPAIGN BANK ACCOUNT SET UP OR WE'RE DOING OUR REPORTS.
BUT YOU'RE NOT TRULY QUALIFIED TO GET TO QUALIFYING WEEK, WHICH IS CLOSER TO ELECTION.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE CHANGING THAT TO WHAT THE STATE SAYS AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED IT.
NOW, I TYPICALLY WELL, WHAT I HAVE DONE SINCE WE NOW HAVE PRIMARY ELECTIONS, THE QUALIFYING DATE HAS NOW MOVED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, TO JUNE.
SO I FOLLOW THE QUALIFYING DATES OF THE STATE.
IS NOON ON MONDAY TO NOON ON FRIDAY.
OK, IS THIS GOING TO. IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE THE TIME PERIOD WHICH SOMEBODY CAN QUALIFY, HOW LONG THEY CAN AS WELL MAKE SURE BEFORE WE PASS SOMETHING LIKE THIS? THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MADE MAYBE JUST TABLE REGARDLESS OF WHERE COUNCIL GOES, EVEN TABLE RELOOKING AT THAT SECTION, A COUPLE OF SECTIONS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS, ALLOWS EXPORTS.
KIND OF AWKWARD DOING IT FROM THE DAIS TONIGHT.
BUT UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE EASY ANSWERS FOR THAT.
I MEAN, IF WE DIDN'T IF WE DIDN'T, SAYS IT DELEGATES AUTHORITY TO CITY TO MOVE THE DATE QUALIFYING PERIOD. AGAIN, THAT'S FOR THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTIONS ONLY.
YES, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SPEAKING TO.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGULAR GENERAL OPERATIONS FOR ELECTIONS IS WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO THAT ONE JUST HAS A LITTLE I MEAN, IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT SETBACK.
THE OTHER, LIKE I SAID, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I POSED TO OUR CHARTER OFFICERS THIS AFTERNOON IS MAYBE IF WE CHANGE IT TO SEVENTY FIVE DAYS AND THAT THAT ALLOWS ANY TYPE OF SMALL COST SAVINGS AND ALSO THAT WOULD LIMIT WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX WAS SAYING.
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AS FAR AS THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE HAVE FOUR VOTES MEANS TO ME IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE, BUT JUST TO BE FOR THOSE WHO IT IS THAT ALSO ADDRESSED THAT BECAUSE IF SHE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER, THAT'S A MONTH SOONER SUMMER.ULSTERMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YES, MAYOR.
I HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX I HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX IS SAYING AND.
PART OF BEING ON THIS, DIAS IS TRYING TO FIND COMMONALITY, TRYING TO FIND A PLACE OF BALANCE. I WAS I WAS JUST ASKING MISS PATRICIA SMITH, BECAUSE I, I MAY HAVE FOUND IT.
WHAT IF AND I'LL ASK THIS SO SHE CAN ANSWER IT TO THE PUBLIC.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ORDINANCE IN A WAY WHERE WE APPOINT SOMEBODY TEMPORARILY UNTIL THE SPECIAL ELECTION? THAT IS CERTAINLY THIS IS FIRST RATE, AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THEIR CHARTER BEFORE THE AMENDMENT, UNDER THE LANGUAGE, BEFORE THE CHARTER, THE APPROVED REFERENDUM. IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE IT IS MORE THAN SIX MONTHS OUT, SO WOULD APPOINT A PERSON THAT WOULD SERVE UNTIL THE SPECIAL ELECTION THAT WAS A PRIOR LANGUAGE IS CERTAINLY AT ITS FIRST READING COUNCIL, IS FREE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.
THEY CAN VOTE ON THE CURRENT LANGUAGE.
THEY CAN DENY THE LANGUAGE, THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES IS COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL AT THIS POINT. SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND WHAT I THINK THAT I HEARD THE CITY ATTORNEY SAY IS.
APPOINT SOMEONE FROM THE DAY THAT COUNCILMAN BAILEY IS NO LONGER ON COUNCIL UNTIL THE SPECIAL ELECTION, WHENEVER THAT IS.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR INTENT IS? YES, THAT'S THAT'S MY INTENT, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THAT THE COSTS I TRULY BELIEVE IN WERE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, AS MR. OLSZEWSKI SAID.
BUT WE WE CAN'T JUST HAVE A VACANCY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO CONDUCT CITY BUSINESS.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY WHERE IT ADDRESSES BOTH SIDES, WHERE WE HAVE THE SPECIAL ELECTION, BUT WE ALSO DON'T JUST LEAVE A VACANT SEAT ON KEY VOTES.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO WORK ON RIGHT HERE.
AND I AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU LOOKING FOR THAT GROUND. THE POINT IS.
I THINK WE COULD STILL MANAGE WITH FOUR, WITH FOUR, VOTE THREE TO ONE.
YOU MENTIONED VARIANCES, YOU MENTIONED COMMERCIAL ISSUES.
I THINK WE COULD YOU KNOW, IT COULD GO THREE TO THREE TO ONE MOST OF THE TIME WHEN THERE'S NO DISAGREEMENT COMMERCIALLY.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY WELL TOGETHER AS WELL.
SECONDED THAT MOTION SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROCEDURALLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION AND THEN AMEND IF I'M IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I WAS JUST THROWING THE CONVERSATION OUT THERE, SO.
YEAH. I I WAS THINKING ALONG THAT SAME LINES THAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR WAS THERE, BECAUSE THIS REALLY COMES OUT TO THE SAME.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, WE APPOINT SOMEBODY AND THEN.
WHEN THE GENERAL ELECTION COMES AROUND AND THE PERSON GET ELECTED AND I PUT A POINT PERSON MIGHT NOT EVEN RUN OR LOSE WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON COULD BE.
BUT IF WE SHORTEN THAT TEMPORARY APPOINTMENT.
GIVE THE CITIZEN TO PUT THE PERSON THAT THEY WANT IN A SPECIAL ELECTION.
AND I'M OK WITH THAT, I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND GO WITH THAT, WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR PROPOSED. LET ME JUST SHORTEN THE SITUATION, WHAT WE HAVE NOW, BUT THAT'S JUST A START. SO I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK IT'S IT'S A GOOD POINT.
LIKE I SAID, THIS THIS IS DEFINITELY A STICKING POINT FOR ME, HAVING GOING WITH THE VACANCY. WELL, OVER FOUR MONTHS POTENTIALLY COULD BE LONGER.
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I WOULD BE. I THINK THAT'S IT MAY OR MAY NOT SOLVE IT, BUT I THINK.A CITIZEN GET WHAT'S THE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, AND I WOULDN'T CHANGE THAT FACT, WE JUST DON'T DO NOT GO WITH THAT THAT VACANCY FOR POTENTIALLY FOUR MONTHS.
CITIZENS GET THEIR THEIR THEIR WISHES.
WE ALL, YOU KNOW, AND WE WE FEEL THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH DOWN, I THINK THAT WOULD SOLVE THE WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR IS PROPOSING.
THAT WOULD SOLVE THE ISSUE WE'RE FACING TONIGHT.
SO JUST JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD BE IF YOU IF YOU GO WITH THAT, I AM REMINDED OF A SITUATION THAT CAME UP.
WITH THE UNITED STATES SENATE RECENTLY IN FLORIDA AND SENATOR LEMIEUX WAS APPOINTED AS SENATOR. PRIOR TO THE ELECTION, BUT HE PROMISED THAT HE WOULDN'T RUN FOR REELECTION.
SITTING ON THAT AND ON THAT AT THAT SENATE SEAT, SO SEEN THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN MAY WANT TO GO THAT WAY, PERHAPS YOU CAN MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT, WHOEVER YOU YOU TEMPORARILY PUT IN THERE, THAT THERE'S NO INTENTION FOR THEM TO RUN AGAIN OR IN THAT IN THAT SPECIAL ELECTION. MAYOR, WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE THAT PERSON SO CHOOSE TO RUN? I MEAN, CAN WE? I THINK WE CAN.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT HAPPENED? I'M THIS, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. WELL, YEAH, I'M I'M USING THAT AS I GOT IT.
BUT I TRULY BELIEVE TODAY THAT WE CAN OPERATE WITH FOUR COUNCIL PEOPLE.
I REALLY BELIEVE. I REALLY BELIEVE.
I, I, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THIS UNTIL THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN STRAP UP AND WORK TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL, I KNOW THAT WE WERE ALL ELECTED ON TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGHOUT OUR CAMPAIGNS.
AND I AND I HAVE ECHOED COLLABORATION.
WE HAVE WORKED WELL AS A TEAM AND I BELIEVE WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK AS A TEAM.
I DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE COUNCIL THAT TOOK AWAY THAT ABILITY TO WORK AS A TEAM TO WORK AND DECIDE TO NOT HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION.
I WOULD RATHER BE KNOWN AS THE COUNCIL THAT REALLY TOOK ON THE MANTLE OF CHANGING OUR REPUTATION, CHANGING THE COURSE THAT WE'VE WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.
GENTLEMEN. PERCEPTIONS OUT THERE, THE PERCEPTION OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, I WOULD PREFER US TO HAVE THE IMPECCABLE REPUTATION AS THE THREE OF US CAME UP ON COUNCIL AND OF COURSE, OUR SENIOR MEMBERS HERE, MEANING AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT A SENIOR DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON, BUT.
BUT I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT, I KNOW THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, I KNOW THAT WE COULD WORK IN SYNC.
WHEN THERE'S FOUR MEMBERS ON COUNCIL AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, I'D RATHER BE KNOWN AS THE COUNCIL THAT REALLY TOOK ON THE MANTLE OF LEADING BY EXAMPLE AND TURNING AWAY FROM THE PERCEPTION.
EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE HAPPENING WITH THE PERCEPTION THAT SOMETHING'S BEING DONE WRONG AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
THIS IS OUR INTEGRITY AND AND THAT PERCEPTION'S IMPORTANT.
I'M JUST I'M TRYING TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION FOR ALL THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT, BECAUSE LIKE LIKE YOU SAID, ME AND COUNCILWOMAN BAILEY HAVE BEEN HERE AND IT CAN AND I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A STRONG POSSIBILITY.
IT WAS LIKE THE ONE PROJECT, IF IT WAS UP TO THEM, WE'D HAVE LOST.
AND THAT'S A BIG COMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT WE WOULD HAVE MISSED OUT ON IF IT WAS A SITUATION, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS BOTH SIDES.
ADDRESS. YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
BUT YES, IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL HAVE A FIVE PERSON COUNCIL FOR THOSE DECISIONS.
AND I AGREE. I WOULD PREFER SOMEBODY AND I I TALKED TO SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.
HE SEES ME LOOKING AT HIM. I'M NOT GOING TO CALL HIM OUT.
I'LL PREFER SOMEBODY WHO I KNOW IS NOT GOING TO RUN FOR REELECTION, FOR ELECTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSED FOR HOWEVER LONG, THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS ON THE
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DUTIES OF THE CITY AND WHAT IT TAKES.YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPLIT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO CAMPAIGN AND LEARNING HOW TO OPERATE THE CITY. BUT THIS GENTLEMAN DEFINITELY KNOWS THE CITY IN AND OUT.
AND HE WOULDN'T JUST TRY TO RUN FOR REELECTION AND HIS WIFE WOULDN'T LET HIM EITHER.
SO. SO, YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO LOOK AT HIM ANY MORE.
BUT SO I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO FIND MIDDLE GROUND ON ADDRESSING EVERYTHING.
AND THAT'S AND THAT'S ALL IN THAT.
SO I'LL STOP. AND I UNDERSTAND I REMEMBER THAT VOTE AND IT CAME BACK AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS AFTER PEOPLE SETTLED IN AND OR I THINK IT WAS UNANIMOUS, IT WAS SIX ONE AFTER PEOPLE SETTLED IN AND IT WAS JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET WEED INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE MORE, I THINK, BECAUSE SEVERAL OF US WE.
WE RELOOKED AT IT IN A REFRESHED STATE OF MIND, AND THAT GOES RIGHT TO MY POINT, I THINK WE COULD WORK. IN THAT SAME SEQUENCE, IN THAT SAME SINK, WE WORKED TOGETHER, WE REALIZED, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY.
BUT I HEAR WHAT YOUR POINT COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
REAL QUICK, LET'S KEEP IN MIND THAT WAS A THREE THREE VOTE.
IT WAS NOT A VOTE WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REVOTE IN A YEAR.
THAT WAS. NOW THERE'S THERE ARE SOME VOTES THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER.
THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE SOMETHING FAILS.
IT CANNOT BE BROUGHT FOR A YEAR LIKE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE, NOTHING THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY SAME. BUT IN THAT CASE, IT WAS MORE OF A POLICY DECISION THAT WAS ABLE TO BE REVISITED REAL QUICKLY. SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
AND IT WAS A GOOD THING BECAUSE AFTER THE THREE THREE VOTE, I WAS ABLE TO ASK THE ONE PERSON OR ANOTHER 100000 DOLLARS AND THEY SAID YES, THAT TIME THEY DID NOT SAY YES THE FIRST TIME, BUT THEY SAID YES.
THE SECOND TIME THERE WAS ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE GOING INTO TAXPAYERS COFFERS RIGHT THERE. SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS A BAD THING.
AND JUST KEEP IN MIND, OK, YOU GUYS ARE SMART ENOUGH.
YOU GUYS SHOULD SHOULD BE YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE GREEN, SOME OF US ARE GREEN.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE SMART ENOUGH THAT IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S MADE A MOTION FOR SOMETHING LIKE AN ORDINANCE AND THEY CAN'T BE REVISIT FOR A YEAR AND YOU'RE HAVING DEBATE, OK, AND YOU SEE IT'S TWO TO YOU WOULD DRAW IT AND TABLE IT THAT WAY.
YOU CAN DO IT AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND IF IT'S HOT AND IN LET'S SAY LET'S SAY IF THERE'S TWO COUNCIL MEMBER IS THE GUY AGGRESSIVE AND SAID, LET'S KILL THIS PROJECT? WELL, THERE WAS TWO OF THOSE FOUGHT.
WELL, IF THOSE TWO PEOPLE WHO SAY KILL IT, RIGHT.
WHO SAY, LET'S NOT DO THIS, THEIR MOTION DIES, THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T REFLECT ON WHETHER THAT THING CAN COME BACK BECAUSE THERE'S A MOTION DENIED, NOT A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND I MEAN, I LET ME DOUBLE CHECK ME ON THAT.
BUT THAT WAS JUST MY QUICK REASONING OF THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT, MCSMITH? NOT UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S AN ORDINANCE JUST LIKE THIS ORDINANCE CAN BE CHANGED, CERTAINLY IF THAT WAS COUNCIL INTENT WHILE YOU'RE ALL DEALING WITH HAVING AN EVEN NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
THAT'S THE ORDINANCE COULD BE CHANGED TO THAT SO LONG AS A MAJORITY AGREE TO THAT.
BUT NO, NOT IN MY INTERPRETATION OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING SO IF THERE WAS A MOTION TO DENY A REQUEST AND IT FAILED, NOBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REQUEST.
NOW, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THE MOTION IF THE ACT ISN'T APPROVED, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE NOBODY VOTES TO APPROVE IT OR IS TIED, IT FAILS.
THERE IS THIS NOTION TO DENY NOBODY TAKES IT OUT.
NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ELSE, SO IT ISN'T CERTAINLY A LIMBO WHERE IS NEITHER APPROVED NOR DENIED IS EITHER APPROVED, DENIED OR WITHDRAWN.
OK, SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT TO COUNCILMAN REALLY WANT TO KILL SOMETHING, KILL IT AND LET IT KILL.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IF YOU CAN'T GET ME, REALLY, I'VE EVEN GOT THIS MUCH TO AMUSIA. IF YOU CAN'T GET THREE VOTES, IT SHOULD DIE ANYWAYS IF YOU GUYS CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRESERVE IT.
WELL, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, IT'S NOT ONLY JUST COMMERCIAL.
WE CAN REALLY START OUR BUDGET PROCESS.
IT WAS TO START OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WE GOT TO MAKE A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION FOR THE COMING YEAR BUDGET. I LIKE TO HAVE MORE RANGE THAN I GOT.
HELP ME MAKING THAT DECISION ON THE BUDGET.
AND THEN WE GOT THE AMERICAN CARE ACT.
WE GOT 18 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO USE IN A CERTAIN WAY.
WE NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
SO THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE WE NEED FIVE PEOPLE.
AND I WANT TO GET INTO A TWO TWO TIE AND STYMIE THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO DO THE JOB TO GET BUSINESS DONE AND THIS COULD AFFECT US FINANCIALLY
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BY NOT HAVING A FIFTH PERSON ON THE CITY, SO.THE DEPUTY MAYOR CAME UP WITH A COMPROMISE.
I CAN LIVE WITH THAT TEMPORARY APPOINTMENT UNTIL WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION AND ONCE THAT PERSON IS ELECTED, THAT WHOEVER THAT MAY BE A TEMPORARY PERSON LEAVES THE DIYAS, THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE HAS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. WELL, I KNOW THAT THE AMERICAN CARE ACT, WE'VE GOT YEARS TO TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THAT, AND THEN I BELIEVE OUR WORKSHOP ALREADY KIND OF LIKE SET THE RATE SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL BEEN PUT INTO PLACE.
AND AND EVEN ACCORDING TO THOSE BRIEFINGS, WE WE ALREADY GAVE THAT DIRECTION OF WHAT THE MILITARY WOULD BE IN IT WITH SEVEN FIVE, FIVE.
I'M NOT SURE OF THE THE AMOUNT.
SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT ARGUMENT HOLDS ANY WATER.
I STILL BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I STAND, I STILL BELIEVE THAT THIS HOWEVER YOU YOU CUT IT, HOWEVER YOU PACKAGE IT, IT'S STILL THE BOTTOM LINE, TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO VOTE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
SO HOW IS IT TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT FOR THEM TO VOTE WHEN THEY WILL STILL VOTE? THEY WILL VOTE IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
YES. WHY? THEY WON'T BE ABLE WE WON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT SOMEONE, BUT THEY WILL STILL VOTE BECAUSE THERE WILL STILL BE A SPECIAL ELECTION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PICK SOMEONE TO SIT ON THIS DAIS.
THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO PICK ANYONE.
SOMEONE'S MAYOR, SOMEONE'S VOTING AND THERE'S SOMEONE WITH SOMEONE'S VOTING WHO WAS NOT ELECTED. I THINK THAT'S THE POINT.
SOMEONE'S VOTING AND MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE CITY, A POLICY THAT WAS NOT ELECTED, I THINK. AND THAT'S WHERE I MET DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
IT'S IT'S IT'S THE FACT I HAVE A REALLY BAD ISSUE WITH ME MAKING THE DECISION TO BRING SOMEONE OUT ON THIS DAYS WHEN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US WENT THROUGH A YEAR PLUS INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH THE PEOPLE.
YES, SIR. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SINCE YOU YOU ASKED ME.
IT'S GETTING LATE. WELL, TO THE TO THAT POINT, WHAT YOU SAID IS THE CURRENTLY.
THE COUNCILMAN BAILEY RESIGNED AFTER NOVEMBER.
THE CURRENT LANGUAGE, US, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, GIVE US THE RIGHT TO A POINT OF AFTER NOVEMBER, SO WOULD WE NOT DO THAT AND CHANGE THE ORDINANCE THEN? I'M JUST I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
YEAH, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
WE HAVE A CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT SAYS OVER A YEAR, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.
WELL, I'M WILLING TO HONOR IT.
AND IT'S NOT THE QUESTION, BUT THAT'S WHAT FILLING THE GAP IN BETWEEN.
I'M NOT SURE WHY WE SAW IT SIX MONTHS, THREE MONTHS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE.
I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PICKING SOMEONE ON THIS DIET.
NOW, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READS TODAY IS IF IT'S AN OVER A YEAR, RIGHT.
WHAT HAPPENS TO SPECIAL ELECTION? SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH TAMPERING WITH THE ORDINANCE? RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE CHANGING THE EXISTING ORDINANCE SO THAT IT CONFINED SO THAT WE CAN APPOINT SOMEONE AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT A PRICE STEFFANI WAS A FACTOR AS WELL, THAT THAT'S PART OF ON STAFF.
PRICE, OF COURSE, WAS WAS A FACTOR.
SO LET'S NOT NECESSARILY PUT THAT ASIDE.
WE AGREED THE PRICE IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT DROVE ALL OF US HERE.
CAN I SAY ONE LAST THING? YES, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING AFTER THIS.
THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO POINT IF THIS WAS LESS THAN A YEAR.
I KNOW, I KNOW THE CURRENT OR IS ALL THE WORD.
EXCUSE ME, PLEASE, NO ALPERS, PLEASE.
ONCE AGAIN, I DIDN'T TALK WHEN YOU WAS TALKING, I LISTEN.
PLEASE GIVE ME THE SAME RESPECT, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, IT WAS LESS THAN A YEAR.
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WE CAN POINT. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, IF HE WAS LEAVING IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE COULD APPOINT FOR HIS SEAT, WOULD THAT BE VOTER SUPPRESSION? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS RIGHT NOW.WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS A COMPROMISE THAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR CAME UP.
WELL, YOU CAN. FILL THAT VACANCY FOR THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND STILL GET YOUR SPECIAL ELECTION, AND WE KEEP THE BUSINESS OF PALM BAY MOVING FORWARD.
BUT TO ME, ALL OF THIS IS KIND OF MOOT BECAUSE.
COUNCILMAN BAILEY COULD PULL HIS VERBAL RESIGNATION ANY TIME HE WANTS.
THINGS MIGHT CHANGE TOMORROW FOR HIM.
HE HASN'T OFFICIALLY RESIGNED.
HE HASN'T DID IT IN WRITING AND HE HAS THE RIGHT TO PULL IT.
UP UNTIL THE LAST DAY, HE SAID HE SAID VERBALLY, HE'S GOING TO LEAVE, OH, IF SITUATION CHANGE TOMORROW, WE WOULDN'T BE.
WE STILL NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDER.
I BELIEVE HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THE CHARTER, REFLECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE ON.
WILL ALL THE PEOPLE VOTE, 60 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE VOTED TO GIVE THAT.
DUTY TO THE COUNCIL CHOSE HOW THE VACANCY IS GOING TO BE FILLED, AND THEY CAME UP WITH THIS ORDINANCE AND THEY AND IT HAS TWO SIDES TO IT.
IT SAYS YOU CAN APPOINT LESS THAN A YEAR OF THIS MORNING.
YOU HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, THIS.
AND PLEASE, PLEASE, I SUGGEST TALKING ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION, GET RID OF THAT WHOLE ORDINANCE AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COME UP, JUST HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION.
WHEN IS IN THE CHARTER AND WE DON'T HAVE THE COUNCIL DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE WE WILL FOLLOW THE CHARTER.
SO I THINK THE COMPROMISE IS A IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND.
I WILLING TO DO THAT, I'M WILLING TO MOVE MY MOTION, IF NOT, LET'S CALL THE QUESTION SO COUNCILMAN BAILEY. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION.
I KNOW WE HAD OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHO WAS ACTUALLY SITTING UP HERE WHENEVER THIS WENT OUT TO THE BALLOT. AND I WISH I WOULD HAVE ASKED HER AT THE TIME.
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. BUT WITH WHAT YOU JUST WHAT MR. FOSTER JUST SAID, MAYOR, WHAT I DID NOTICE IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE CLERK, AND I BELIEVE THAT MOST OF WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR GOT EVERYBODY ELSE TO I THINK WE SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THE HISTORY.
RIGHT. AND SO WE LOOK AT THAT HISTORY.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE BEING DRAFTED UP.
THIS ORDINANCE WAS DRAFTED AS THE CHARTER CHANGE WAS GOING THROUGH.
SO WE HAVE OUR CHARTER AND OUR AUDIENCES.
CHARTER IS CHANGING. THE CHARTER COMMISSION BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THE TIME WAS SAYING STRIKE THESE THINGS OUT.
STATE LAW ALLOWS US TO DO IT THROUGH ORDINANCE.
SO THEY DID THAT, BUT THEY HAD TO HAVE THE ORDINANCE READY.
THIS IS THE ORDINANCE, AND SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE I WASN'T HERE THEN AND I WASN'T ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL THEN AND HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT I IMAGINE PEOPLE THEY SAID, LOOK, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE A PROCESS.
AND THIS THIS ORDINANCE, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST TIME WE'VE GOT TO USE THIS ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW IN THE LAST NINE YEARS.
SO SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THAT THAT PASSED.
BUT THEY HAD THIS IS THE BACKUP, AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT THERE'S A CENTRAL DEBATE IF WE WERE TO DEVIATE FROM WHAT THEY PUT TOGETHER, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING PUT IN FOR NEXT YEAR, ANYTHING THAT SUBSTANTIAL HAS TAKEN NO SUBSTANTIAL HAS GIVEN COUNSEL THE EXPANDING COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY.
I MEAN, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MORE.
NO. A MINISTERIAL IN NATURE, I THINK, IS OK AND NO, NO GETTING IN LINE WITH THE STATE, WITH STATE STATUTES BECAUSE THEY OVERRULE US ANYWAYS, THAT'S A THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
BUT AS FAR AS DOING SOMETHING THIS SERIOUS, I THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN MORE THAN JUST TONIGHT. AND SO.
ENOUGH ARE YOU GOING TO REMOVE? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE MY MOTION.
OK, SO WE HAVE A COUNCILMAN FOSTER WILL MOVE A SECOND.
I MEAN, FIRST. WELL, YOU ALREADY REMOVED YOUR SECOND, YOU REMOVED YOUR SECOND, SO THE DEMOTION, THE WAY IT STANDS, DOESN'T HAVE A SECOND.
THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOING TO SECOND THAT MOTION.
SINN FEIN'S. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AND I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE PRIOR TO THE CHARTER AMENDMENT WITH A
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TEMPORARY APPOINTEE UP UNTIL THE SPECIAL ELECTION.I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN BAILEY? YEAH, I'M CURIOUS.
I MEAN, I CAN'T BE IN SUPPORT OF IT OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE BUT THERE IS AN ASK THAT I MADE THAT IS NOT NOW IN INTEREST FOR ME OR POLITICS IS JUST SIMPLY WE'RE TAXPAYERS.
IF WE CHANGE THAT WINDOW FROM 90 DAYS TO 75 DAYS, WE CAN'T TELL THE SUPERVISOR ELECTION WHEN SHE'S GOING TO HOLD OUR ELECTION, IF SHE CHOOSES TO HOLD IT WITH THE OTHER GENERAL ELECTIONS IN OTHER PLACES.
AND THAT SAVES A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, A LITTLE BIT HOUSE FOR.
BUT I WANT TO DO IS NOT ALLOW OUR ORDINANCE TO INTERFERE WITH HER HAVING THAT OPTION.
SO SO IF WE STRIKE THAT 90 AND MAKE IT 75, SHE WOULD HAVE A WINDOW THAT IF SHE SO CHOOSES AND SHE'S PREPARED TO ELECTION, CAN'T HAVE IT ON NOVEMBER 2ND WITH THE OTHER ELECTIONS THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING IN THE COUNTY.
IS THAT CONCERN, JONES? THEY COME FROM. 90 TO 75 THAT CONFIRMED I WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING SMALL ENOUGH THAT IT CAN BE AMENDED IN THE SECOND.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST LIKE THE TIME FRAME.
YEAH, YEAH, I'M A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE AROUND THAT, SO MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, IF YOU VOTED FOR AND THAT WAS 90 NOW AND THEN YOU CAME BACK TO SECOND RATE AND THEN YOU WANTED TO CHANGE IT AT PROBABLY TELL YOU YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER READING.
NOW, WELL, I'M IN MY MOTION FROM NINETY TO SEVENTY FIVE DAYS INCLUDED.
OK, SO I'VE GOT A MOTION WITH THAT MOTION OR SECOND WITH THAT MOTION AMENDING IT FROM 90 TO 75 DAYS TO FLOW COUNCILMAN.
FOSTER, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING OR COUNCILMAN? NO, IT'S A NEW MOTION.
YEAH, I SECOND IT I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT 75 DAYS STARTS WHEN COUNCILMAN BAILEY LEAVES. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHEN HE'S GOING TO LEAVE UNTIL HE HE HIS RESIGNATION.
AS WELL CLARIFY, SO INSTEAD OF 90 TO 180 DAY WINDOW TO HOLD, A SPECIAL ELECTION WILL BE 75 TO 180 AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT FITS IN WITH SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.
GIVE HER TIME TO PROCESS THAT, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT ALLOW US TO HAVE IT ON NOVEMBER 2ND.
THAT BEING THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF THAT SAVES ANY MONEY.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR YOU NEED ANYTHING, MA'AM? MADAM ATTORNEY. YES, IF WE DIDN'T KNOW.
I KNOW WE'RE STAYING IN THE CLERK AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, SO THE ONLY THING THAT ARE WE ONLY CHANGING THE REMOVAL OF THE FEELING OF THE VACANCY? ARE WE DOING EVERYTHING ELSE, AS IN THE ORDINANCE AND MAKING THESE ADDITIONAL CHANGES? WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT GUYS HAVE VOTED ON AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ACT. OK, SO LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR.
SO ONLY THING I'M DOING KEEP THE SPECIAL ELECTION, CHANGE IT FROM 90 TO 180 DAYS TO 75 AND 180 DAYS.
AND JUST WITHIN THE AMOUNT OF TIME OF THE SPECIAL ELECTION, WE HAVE AN APPOINTEE TO JUST HOLD DOWN THE FORT. WELL, WE'RE STILL HAVING THE SPECIAL ELECTION, SO THAT'S THE RIGHT TO VOTE. AND YEAH.
SO, YEAH, IT ISN'T IT'S NOT ABOUT GETTING ALONG.
IT'S ABOUT GOVERNING EFFICIENTLY.
WE CAN'T WE CAN ENTERTAIN ANY ALPERS.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION.
I TRULY DO. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THIS IS COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION.
THAT'S ON THERE. WE'RE IN MIDSTREAM.
MS., PATRICIA, DID YOU GET EVERYTHING ELSE, SAM, OR MS. SMITH? YES.
WE'RE GOOD WITH THE MOST. OK, ALL RIGHT, I STILL CAN'T SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WORKING IT THROUGH, BUT TO ME, MY STANCE AND MY COMMENTS STILL STAND. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, HIGH IN THE POLLS.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE. ADMIRE JOHNSON I COUNCILMAN BAILEY PALM BAY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I
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COUNCILMAN FELIX I MS. OR MEDINA NAYE.OK, WE'RE GOING NOW, WE'RE UP ON PRESENTATIONS.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S TAKE A RECESS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH THIS MEETING.
SO WE'RE ON PRESENTATIONS AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MADAM SHERMAN.
[PRESENTATIONS]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO BRING UP SEAN FOSTER OF SUNRISE CONSULTING GROUP.HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND SOME THINGS WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE NEW SESSION.
AND MR. FOSTER, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND TAKING IN ALL ALL THE ACTION PACKED DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD THIS EVENING, AYMEN.
WELL, LET'S JUST SAY OUR COUNTRY WAS BUILT RIGHT ON THE ISSUES DISCUSSED HERE TODAY AND BUT I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY ALL LEFT WHAT I HAD THIS SUPER EXCITING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, POWER VOICE THAT TOGETHER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I GOT ALL EXCITED WHEN I DROVE IN HERE, SAW THE PARKING LOT FULL, AND I JUST THOUGHT, NO, THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS FOR ME.
RIGHT. BUT I DID GET A GOOD THING THERE.
AND I TELL YOU, I WENT AROUND THE CORNER, I GOT TO TELL YOU ABOUT A RESTAURANT.
I WENT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT SUZANNE.
ABOUT EIGHT THIRTY. I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO GO A LITTLE LONG, SO I WENT AND GOT ME SOME SUZANNE. I'M GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GOING WITHOUT CARBS UNTIL TONIGHT.
I HAD EMPANADAS, PLANTATION'S MOFONGO.
SO I'M IN A GOOD MOOD. NO, THANK YOU GUYS.
REALLY AND HONESTLY, THANK YOU TO BE BACK HERE WITH YOU GUYS AGAIN TODAY.
LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE HAVING TO WEAR MASKS AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SOCIALLY DISTANCE AND EVERYTHING WITH THE PANDEMIC.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN THAT TYPE OF YEAR, RIGHT? IT'S BEEN THAT TYPE OF YEAR FOR EVERYBODY.
AND I WENT THROUGH SESSION SAYING AND I'VE SAID THIS EVERY YEAR.
I GO ON IT BEFORE THE FOLKS AND I SAY, THIS WAS THE CRAZIEST SESSION I'VE EVER HAD.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THIS WAS THE ABSOLUTE CRAZIEST SESSION I EVER HAD.
YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT DEMOCRACY IN WHICH YOU TALK TONIGHT, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ACCESS.
WE COULDN'T EVEN GET IN TO SPEAK TO THE SENATORS OR THEIR STAFF IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THEIR PHONE NUMBERS, EMAILS AND THAT TYPE OF ACCESS.
WE WEREN'T EVEN ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING ON THE HOUSE SIDE.
I GOT TO GIVE YOU THIS REAL QUICK BEFORE I GO IN THE PRESENTATION.
MY FIRST MEETING BEFORE YOU CAME UP AND YOU NEED TO MEET WITH THE HOUSE LEADERS.
YOU HAD TO HAVE A PRESCHEDULED MEETING.
THE CAPITOL POLICE WOULD HAVE IT ON HERE AND YOUR NAME HAD TO BE ON FOR EIGHT FIFTEEN.
YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE IT FOR FIFTEEN MINUTE INTERVALS.
MY FIRST MEETING, I GO THERE, I'M TEXTING THE AIDE.
I BECAME POSITIVE FOR CORONAVIRUS TEN MINUTES AGO.
I CAN'T COME DOWN AND GET YOU.
I HAVE TO LEAVE THE BUILDING. GO BACK TO NEW FOR RITCHIE.
THE LEGISLATOR HAD TO COME DOWN AND GET ME AND LET US THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED UP THERE.
FIFTEEN MINUTES HAD TO LEAVE THE BUILDING, BUT IT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A SENSE ON HOW THE SESSION WAS AND HOW IT WENT THROUGH.
AND SO WE'RE VERY, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY.
SO LET'S START OFF WITH WHAT ENDED UP ALAWI'S BUDGET.
ONE HUNDRED AND ONE POINT FIVE DOLLARS BILLION BUDGET, ONE POINT FIVE BILLION OF THAT WAS VETOED. ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.
ABOUT ONE POINT ONE BILLION WAS REALLY TOWARDS AMERICAN RESCUE ACT DOLLARS.
AND SO LET ME SAY THAT WITH THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SEVEN TO TEN BILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS COMING FROM THAT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DISASTER.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER THIS YEAR.
AND IT WOULD'VE ESPECIALLY BEEN A DISASTER FOR SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOLS WHO WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND RAISE THOSE FUNDS THEMSELVES.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE ACT, WE HAD A VERY, VERY SURPRISINGLY YEAR WITH FUNDS.
FORTUNATELY, WHAT THEY DID DO NOT EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU REAL QUICK.
TEN BILLION DOLLARS, THEY USED ABOUT SEVEN.
ONE MORE. THAT BILLION IS GOING.
THEY LEFT THREE BILLION FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO THEY WERE SAYING, LET'S START TO SEE HOW THINGS, YOU KNOW, RECUPERATE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO USE THE FULL TEN BILLION.
SO WHAT DO THEY DO OUT OF SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS, SOME OF THE YOU ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH IT BRIEFLY AND I THANK YOU.
I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF WHY THOSE ARE UP THERE.
THE COMMUNITY SUBSTANCE ABUSE DOLLARS.
THAT WAS THE GOVERNOR'S WIFE'S PRIORITY.
SHE WANTED TO SEE THAT OUT THERE.
ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN THOSE PROGRAMS, ALMOST PROGRAMS CHALLENGE GRANTS, THREE POINT TWO MILLION THEY PUT IN THE RESILIENT FLORIDA TRUST FUND.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, 500 MILLION INTO THAT PROGRAM.
SEPTIC THE SEWER WHO I'VE TALKED WITH YOUR STAFF EVEN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
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SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX MILLION AND OF COURSE, SCHIP.THEY ADDED ANOTHER ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE CONVERSATIONS NEXT YEAR.
THE GOVERNOR WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE DOLLARS HELD HARMLESS.
OVER TWO POINT ONE BILLION DOLLARS HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THAT TRUST FUND THE PAST TEN YEARS, TWO POINT ONE POINT ONE THAT WOULD DO AN AMAZING WORK OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEXT TO FLORIDA JOB GROWTH FUND.
I EMAILED THAT INFORMATION TO BRENDA AND JOANNE.
JOAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT.
AND THE LAST ONE I WANTED TO EVEN PUT THE WEBSITE UP THERE.
THERE'S ONE AND I KNOW A LOT OF FUNDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PASSED THROUGH THROUGH YOUR CITY AND THE STATE, I MEAN, IN THE COUNTY.
BUT FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GO INTO THAT ARE FLORIDA DOTCOM.
IT IS A EASY PROCESS TO FILE THAT PAPERWORK.
SO I AM SO PROUD OF THIS ONE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS PICTURE, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT.
THE THE CITY OF PALM BAY APPROPRIATION'S WAS HIGH SCHOOL.
FORTY ONE OF SEVEN, RANDEE FINE HAD SPONSORED SHERMAN, THE HOUSE SENATOR DEBBIE MAYFIELD, OVER IN THE SENATE. AND OF COURSE, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET IT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET IT FUNDED. WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK IS REALLY, REALLY SPECIAL.
THANK YOU TO SENATOR DEBBIE MAYFIELD.
SHE UPON CONVERSATIONS WITH ME, I SAID, I'VE GOT TO SAY, I'VE TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DO SO.
I SAID, IF YOU CAN, WE GOT SOME EXTRA DOLLARS THAT WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT SAID IF YOU CAN PUT AN AMENDMENT ON THERE, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCEPTED.
AND THEN OVER ON THE HOUSE, I'LL WALK OUT OF THE HOUSE.
SHE DID THE AMENDMENT THAT PUT US INTO WHAT WE CALL CONFERENCE BECAUSE IT WASN'T YET OVER IN THE HOUSE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, GETTING THE HOUSE TO MATCH THE FULL OFFER.
SO WE WERE VERY, VERY FORTUNATE.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I'VE BRAGGED ABOUT THIS PROJECT TO OTHER CITIES AND TELLING THEM WHAT IT NEEDED ITEM AND WHAT GREAT WORK THIS WOULD DO FOR YOUR YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT FAILED VACATION RENTALS, WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
IT'S GOING TO BE HERE AGAIN, PUBLIC FUNDS FOR LOBBYING FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
THERE WAS A BILL OUT THERE TO GET RID OF ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENT LOBBYING, BUT THERE WAS NOT. BUT THEY COULD STILL PAY FOR FOLKS TO.
LOBBY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LOBBYING THE STATE GOVERNMENT, OCCUPATIONAL REGULATIONS, REVIEW PROCESS.
THIS IS A BIG ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN OVER THE SUMMER, BECAUSE I EXPECT THAT ONE TO COME BACK TO THE BUILDING DESIGN.
ANOTHER BIG ONE, HB 55 AND 204, WOULD PROHIBIT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM ADOPTING ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT REQUIRE SPECIFIC BUILDING DESIGN ELEMENTS OR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING. SO LOOKING FORWARD ALREADY TO NEXT SESSION.
WHAT KIND OF ITEMS? I WILL HAVE TO SAY THIS IS THIS IS A POWERPOINT, ONE OF THE DEEPEST ONES I'VE EVER MADE, MEANING FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES, MEANING THERE WAS A LOT OF PREEMPTION AND MANDATES, NOT JUST A LOT OF BILLS, BUT IT WENT DEEP.
I'M NOT GOING TO OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE WRITTEN ITEM ON HERE, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF AND THOSE THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE BEFORE MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ALL THE INFORMATION. SO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THEM THAT FAILED MATTERS.
A GREAT CONCERN. IT FAILED AND WE OPPOSED.
THE BILL WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PROSECUTION MANAGEMENT, COORDINATION OF ANY CIVIL PROCEEDING BROUGHT BY GOVERNMENT ENTITIES. THIS IS SOMETHING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE THINKING THAT WILL COME BACK AGAIN ON US.
A LOT OF YOU ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH THIS BASICALLY GIVES THE GOVERNOR THE AUTHORITY TO INVALIDATE AN EMERGENCY ORDER THAT UNNECESSARILY RESTRICTS INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OR LIBERTIES. IT SOUNDS SIMPLE IN THAT SENSE, BUT UNDERSTAND, HE CAN, YOU KNOW, GO AGAINST ANY LOCAL EMERGENCY ORDER, NOT JUST THOSE IN WHICH HE THINKS, BUT.
SO THERE WERE PEOPLE LIKE SOME FOLKS LIKE, WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE OPPOSED THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO OPPOSE, YOU KNOW, THEIR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES.
BUT UNDERSTAND IT WAS OPPOSING IT BECAUSE IT WENT VERY, VERY BROAD FOR THE GOVERNOR WHEN IT CAME TO CITIES AND COUNTIES, HOME BASED BUSINESSES.
THIS BILL PASSED. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BILL IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAY NOT ACT OR ENFORCE ANY ORDINANCE OR POLICY OR TAKE ANY ACTION TO LICENSE OR OTHERWISE REGULATE A HOME BASED BUSINESS IN A MANNER THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER BUSINESSES AND A LOCAL GOVERNMENT JURISDICTION.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY.
THIS IS ONE THAT I HAD TALKED TO YOU.
ACTUALLY, I STOOD RIGHT HERE BEFORE LAST TIME ON THE PODIUM AND I SAID I REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS THE YEAR THAT THIS BILL WAS GOING TO PASS.
IT HAD BEEN HERE YEAR IN, YEAR OUT, YEAR IN, YEAR OUT FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
IT HAD BEEN SEEN AS A TAX INCREASE.
AND ALL IT WAS IS REALLY HELPING MIDDLE AMERICA, MAIN STREET AMERICA.
THE WEBSITE I MEAN, THE GROUP WAYFAIR IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN TOOK IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT TO SAY THAT THEY FELT THEY SHOULD NOT PAY THAT THAT SALES TAX.
THEY LOST THAT IN SUPREME COURT.
THE NUMBERS ARE ALREADY COMING BACK HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY SAID YOU COULD SEE THERE. I WROTE ONE POINT EIGHT BILLION IS ACTUALLY ALREADY PREDICTING ONE POINT TWO ONE
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BILLION DOLLARS FOR THE 21 22.THAT'S ALREADY A 20 PERCENT HIGHER.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT CONTINUE IN YEARS AHEAD.
SO THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD THING FOR THOSE WHO HERE HAVE LOCAL COMPANIES.
AND A GREAT EXAMPLE IS PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHAT WAS HAPPENING? WHY DID YOU DO THIS? PEOPLE WERE BUYING ITEMS OFF OF WAYFAIR.
THE BEST EXAMPLE THEY COULD GIVE YOU WAS EBAY.
PEOPLE WERE BUYING THINGS OFF EBAY, SUPPOSED TO BE COLLECTING THE SALES TAX.
WHETHER YOU'RE SELLING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU INHERITED OR SOMETHING YOU HAVE A BUSINESS FOR. AND THEY WEREN'T COLLECTING THE SALES TAX.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS HAPPENING, THEY WERE COLLECTING THE SALES TAX, BUT NOT GIVING IT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.
SO NOW EBAY COLLECTS 100 PERCENT OF IT AND JUST GIVES IT STRAIGHT TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. YEAH, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT ONE, TOO, BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIG ONE ON THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AS WELL.
WE AND WE PASSED IT THREE, TWO AS WELL.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE ALL THAT COME ACROSS TO THE WHOLE STATE.
YES, SIR. THAT'S WHY I'M OPTIMISTIC ON THAT ONE.
YES, SIR. I WAS GOING TO WAIT TO THE END, BUT IF I MAY.
MAY OR IF YOU'RE STILL ON THAT ONE.
CARRY ON. GO AHEAD. YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, I WAS IT WAS THREE, TWO MAYORS.
IT WAS AGAINST THAT BECAUSE THAT'S STILL NOT THE RIGHT ONE.
BUT THE ONE, THE ONE WITH THE THE TAX.
THE TAX RIGHT HERE. SO I'M GETTING I DON'T GET USER REAL CONTROL AT HOME VERY OFTEN.
SO I'M JUST GOING CRAZY AT THE.
BUT THE POINT BEING THAT, REMEMBER, THAT MEANS THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE, MY OPINION, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE COLLECTING ONLINE TAX AND THAT MAKE IT EVEN WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAIRNESS. BUT REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT TO FAIRNESS HERE, GREAT FOR US.
LOTS OF REVENUE REVENUE. WHO'S PAYING THAT REVENUE? ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING THAT SALES TAX, MEANING THAT THE ONLY TAX THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY TAXES USED TAX.
RIGHT. AND THE NEXT ONE? THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE I HAD SAID.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.
THIS HAD BEEN HERE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
I THINK THIS BILL IS COMING BACK.
MATTER OF FACT, I KNOW THIS BILL IS COMING BACK AND IT'S AMAZING.
GOD BLESS YOU. WHAT IT WAS TRYING TO DO IS OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO PUT THE LEGAL NOTICES IN NEWSPAPERS.
WE WERE TRYING TO ALLOW IT SO IT ONLY HAD TO GO TO THE INTERNET, THE NEWSPAPERS, THIS WILL BE IN THE NEWS TOMORROW. THOUGHT IT.
THEY HAD BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT THAT IF YOU DID USE A WEBSITE, YOU USE ONE OF THEIR WEB SITES TO POST THE ANNOUNCEMENT AND NOT OTHERS.
I WILL PRETTY MUCH ATTEST THAT THIS WILL COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND THERE WILL BE MORE LIBERTIES TO PUT IN AND MORE PLACES ON THE ONLINE.
AND I WAS GOING TO ONE OTHER THING THAT'S INVOLVING LEGAL NOTICES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THE RADAR, BUT IN MAYBE I'M EVEN WRONG WHEN I'M SEEING AND THE INFORMATION I'M SEEING ABOUT THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS THAT ONE THAT IS FOR THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS SEPARATE AND EVERY ELECTION SET FOR HER OWN RIGHT AND ONE FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.
WHY THE HECK ARE WE HAVING TAXPAYERS PAY FOR TWO PUBLIC NOTICES FOR THE SAME ELECTION, IF THAT'S TRUE? SO ANY ANYHOW THAT'S COMING BACK.
THAT'S TO BE WORKED ON. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR STAFF AND.
ABSOLUTELY. I'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE BIG ONE HERE, IMPACTORS.
THERE WERE SOME SOME CITIES AND COUNTIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAD FELT THAT HAD GONE A LITTLE BIT EXCESSIVE WITH THEIR IMPACT FEES.
THEY WERE TRYING TO REIN IT IN.
THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT I'VE GOT FROM CITIES AND COUNTIES FOR FOSTER IS THIS MEANING JUST CURRENT? NO, THIS IS ALSO MEANING NEW.
WHEN YOU GO IN THE NEW IMPACT FEES, THERE'S GOING TO BE NEW RESTRICTIONS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SIX PROVISIONS REGARDING IMPACT FEES INCREASES WITHIN THIS BILL IN ORDER TO INCREASE AN IMPACT FEE.
ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE A STUDY.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COST TO IT.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, TO PUBLICLY NOTICE WORKSHOPS HERE AGAIN AND AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE DEEPER INFORMATION HERE OR STAFF.
BUT THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN WE HAD WITH PREEMPTION AND DEFINITELY OPPOSED IT.
THIS IS A REALLY BIG ONE HERE, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRST TWO BASICALLY, OBVIOUSLY MODIFIED THE BIRD HARRIS ACT BY REVISING THE TERM ACTION.
A GOVERNMENT ENTITY INCLUDE ADOPTING OR FORCING ANY ORDINANCE AND ALSO REDUCING THE TIME FRAME FROM 150 TO 90 DAYS IN WHICH A PROPERTY OWNER MUST NOTIFY THE GOVERNMENT BEFORE A COURT ACTION. THIS IS ANOTHER BILL THAT ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SOME PAGES.
THE BILL ANALYSIS ALONE WAS LIKE SEVEN PAGES.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE YOUR STAFF HERE.
HUGE BILL, HUGE, HUGE BILL RIGHT HERE, HB 59 WAS ONE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE CONCERNED ABOUT, OF COURSE, OPPOSE, MANDATED AND PASSED THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT BILL.
HELP WITH THE ITEMS TO THE ITEMS REQUIRES A LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO INCLUDE A PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT TO ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE EARLIER OF THAT'S NEXT PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT INITIATED AFTER JULY 1ST.
ALSO THE NEXT ONE, OF COURSE, ALL ALLOWS PARTIES TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO AMEND OR CANCEL THE AGREEMENT WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF ALL OWNERS.
WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO I KNOW YOU STARTED A CONVERSATION WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. I HAVE FOLLOWED BACK UP WITH STAFF AND A FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.
WE ARE WORKING TO GET YOU A AND EVERYBODY A CLARIFICATION FROM DŌ ON.
SOME OF THOSE ARE IN THAT LITTLE MIDDLE AREA RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
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HB 60 COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL CODE ENFORCEMENT, OF COURSE, PASSED A COUPLE, THE BIG ONES RIGHT THERE, BOLDON, THE BILLS DON'T REQUIRE ANY PERSON WHO BEFORE IT'S A VIOLATION OR CODE ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE THEIR NAME, ADDRESS TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BEFORE ANY ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDING CAN OCCUR.THE BILL WAS AMENDED, THOUGH, LATER TO STILL THIS IS RIGHT AT THE END TO ALLOW FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THE ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS IF THEY POSE AN IMMINENT THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE OR IMMINENT DESTRUCTION OR HABITAT OF SENSITIVE RESOURCES.
NOTHING IN THE BILL PROHIBITS A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FROM PROACTIVELY ENFORCING A CODE VIOLATION. THIS IS A VERY BIG ISSUE THAT THEY HAD.
THAT AMENDMENT CAME AT THE END WHEN THEY FELT LIKE THE BILL WAS NOT GOING TO PASS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS ON THEIR THEIR.
SO SO EVERYONE'S GOING TO KNOW NOW IF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S COMPLAINING ABOUT YOU NOT PUTTING YOUR YOUR GARBAGE CAN BACK WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO.
FORTY SEVEN, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT BILL ALSO PASSED, THE BILL INCREASES THE MAXIMUM ACREAGE OF IT. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT OF A SMALL SCALE COMPLAN AMENDMENT FROM 10 ACRES OF 50 ACRES AND GENERALLY INCREASES THE MAXIMUM ACREAGE FOR A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 20 TO 100 ACRES.
I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE AWARE OF THAT ALSO.
YOU CAN SEE JUST THE BULLET POINTS ALONE FOR THIS BILL FILL THE PAGE.
THIS WAS ANOTHER REALLY LARGE BILL THAT PASSED.
IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO POST ON ITS WEBSITE EACH TYPE OF BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION, ALL REQUIRED ATTACHMENTS, PROCEDURES FOR PROCESSING, REVIEWING, APPROVING APPLICATIONS ON THE STATUS OF EACH APPLICATION.
IF A LOCAL GOVERNMENT FAILS TO MEET DISESTABLISH DEADLINES, IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE ORIGINAL PERMIT FEE BY 10 PERCENT FOR EACH DAY THAT IT'S LATE.
YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS A LOT OF MANDATES ON HERE.
RECLAIMED WATER, THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY BIG ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY, IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS COMING OUT OF THE SENATE. SENATOR ALBRITTON IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE A FUTURE SENATOR PRESIDENT. HE'S GOING TO BE CARRYING THE WATER BUCKET AND ALL THE SAY WITH THESE TYPE OF ISSUES CONTINUALLY.
THE SENATE PRESIDENT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS REALLY BIG ON THE SUBJECT OF SYRIA.
AND THESE TYPES OF POLICIES COMING FORWARD, THE BILL IS GOING TO ELIMINATE NON I MEAN, JUST I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ITEM, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO AUTHORIZE DEP TO CONVENE A TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP ON AND ON AND ON.
A LOT OF MANDATES WERE IN THIS BILL FOR THE CITY AND SUZANNE.
I WILL PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, DETAILED INFORMATION FOR YOUR STAFF AND THESE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS ALSO. TWENTY FIVE.
FOURTEEN. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BILL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, THE RESILIENT FLORIDA TRUST FUND PUTTING 500 MILLION DOLLARS.
THE BILLS CAN CREATE THE TRUST FUND WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AS A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE RESILIENT FLORIDA GRANT PROGRAM AND ALSO A STATEWIDE FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL. IT WAS OBVIOUSLY SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, I FORGOT TO MENTION, WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR BUDGET STUFF.
BRITTA, IF YOU'RE WATCHING, I GET IT.
SO EVERY EVERY ABOUT EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS I SEND YOUR STAFF INFORMATION ABOUT GRANTS, MAYBE. I THINK THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT.
AND WE TRY NOT TO JUST DO GRANTS THAT ARE THE ONES THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ON DEEP OR DIFFERENT PAGES. BUT I ALSO WE HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER STAGES FROM PRIVATE SOURCES, AND I SENT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
ONE CITY GOT THIS GRANT, AND THAT WAS A CITY OF PALM BAY, IT WAS FAR FROM THE FIREHOUSE SUBS AND I SAID, LISTEN, FILL THIS ONE OUT.
I SAID I CONTACTED THE PERSON ALREADY BEFORE.
THEY DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO IT.
SHE CALLED ME SO EXCITED SHE WON THE GRANT OVER FORTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND I THINK THEY'RE HELPING YOU BUY EQUIPMENT.
I'VE EQUIPMENT, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY YOUR TEAM HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL AND AND I AND I MEAN IT IT IS A MODEL FOR WHICH OTHER CITIES WOULD HAVE WHEN WE NEED SOME INFORMATION BACK FROM YOU. I'M GOING THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF DURING SESSION.
I'M CONTINUALLY WORKING WITH THREE PEOPLE HERE IN YOUR OFFICE RIGHT HERE AND YOU'RE IN YOUR CITY NEEDING INFORMATION.
WHAT'S THE COST GOING TO BE TO THE CITY? WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT BE TO US? COULD YOU RUN THIS BY YOUR STAFF? THEY DO THE MOST THOROUGH PROCESS FOR ME, AND IT HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL.
AND THIS YEAR, MORE THAN EVER, WE NEEDED IT QUICKLY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO BE THERE, RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE LEGISLATORS.
WE'RE HAVING TO EMAIL IT TO THEM.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, SUZANNE, YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE BEEN AMAZING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND ALMOST 30 IN HERE HAVE 667 THE BILL PASSED TO REQUIRE LOCAL ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ALLOW REQUESTS FOR BUILDING CODE INSPECTIONS TO BE SUBMITTED ELECTRONICALLY AND OF COURSE, A LITANY OF OTHER ITEMS ON THAT BILL.
SO WHAT'S HAPPENING, I'M HERE GIVING YOU THE LET'S UPDATE FROM WHAT JUST HAPPENED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK.
BRETT AND I ARE ALREADY WORKING ON A TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE WEEK BY WEEK AND MONTH BY MONTH. WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE YOU ALL AND LOOKING AT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON YOUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND I WANT TO TELL YOU, YOUR STAFF DID A REALLY DEEP DOVE BEFORE WE DID LAST SESSION.
EACH AND EVERY DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, LEGISLATION
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THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS.AND WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP ON SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND ALSO WORK WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ON THOSE ITEMS. I DO WANT TO TELL YOU, GOING IN.
SO I WENT I GAVE YOU A GOOD NEWS.
I GAVE YOU BAD NEWS IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN SOME GOOD NEWS AT THE END.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, ON THE REVENUE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE IN MARCH, MEET'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN EXACT AMOUNT WHAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO IN MARCH, THEY INCREASE WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS WERE, BUT IT CAME BACK EVEN BETTER 30 DAYS LATER THAN WHAT THEY EXPECTED.
THAT'S WHAT THESE NUMBERS REPRESENT.
SEVEN, ALMOST 800 MILLION DOLLARS CAME IN IN APRIL.
REMEMBER, THEY JUST DID THE REVENUE ESTIMATING AND AND AM SORRY, IN MARCH AND IN APRIL, CAME UP 800000 DOLLARS MORE THAN THEY EXPECTED.
AND MAY IT WAS 574 TOURISM DOLLARS WERE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.
EVERY OTHER TARGET AREA EXCEPT FOR TOURISM WAS DOWN SINCE THE PANDEMIC.
LET ME JUST SAY THAT EVERY OTHER SALES TAX AREA WHERE YOU'D COME IN DOC STANCE, EVERY SINGLE ITEM WAS UP EXCEPT FOR TOURISM.
TOURISM WAS THE ITEMS THAT MADE THESE ITEMS INCREASE.
THAT TELLS ME, YOU KNOW, BY FAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW DOLLARS GOING INTO THE NEXT SESSION. AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING SOME SOME SOME MONEY BACK FOR THE CITY AGAIN.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALLOWING US TO TO REPRESENT YOU AND AND THANK YOU YOUR STAFF AGAIN FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB YOU DID DURING THIS SESSION.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE BAFFO BOXES AND THAT INITIATIVE AND OF COURSE, TO THE DOVE TEAM. WELL, WE HAVE TO GET A BOAT, SO MAYBE WE COULD GET A LITTLE WORK GRANT FOR THAT.
WELL, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
I KNOW IN PARTICULAR WITH THE WITH THOSE BAFFO BOXES, BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THERE WAS SOME COMPLEXITIES THERE AND YOU JUST PERSEVERED AND AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A BATTLE BOX WAS BEFORE I RECEIVED THIS PAPERWORK.
I DOVE DEEP INTO IT AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED.
I WAS REALLY IT WAS ONE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE BENEFIT WAS, NOT ONLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT PROJECT.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING SOME MORE FOR YOU THERE.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
YEAH, JUST THE SAME SENTIMENT.
THANK YOU, SIR. A YEAR AGO, YOU TOLD US WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND YOU STUCK TO IT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S CONCERN FROM FROM SOMEONE COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU'RE NEW.
SURE. AND EVERYTHING IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
BUT I SAW THAT AS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU COULD FOCUS IN ON CITIES LIKE PALM BAY AND YOU STUCK TO YOUR WORDS AND YOU DID EVERYTHING YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO.
AND FOR THAT, WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, VERY APPRECIATIVE IN YOUR WORK WITH OUR STAFF, VICE VERSA, AND COMING BACK AND FORTH, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERY BLUE MOON, BUT CONSISTENTLY WITH INFORMATION HAS BEEN GREATLY APPRECIATED.
WE ACTUALLY KEPT THE TALLY ON THAT BOARD MEETINGS IN PERSON, ALMOST 12 ZOOM'S 67 COMMUNICATIONS, MEANING EITHER PHONE CALLS AND ON IT.
AND AND, OF COURSE, LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU ALL.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU.
YOU KNOW, WE REPLY QUICKLY BECAUSE YOU ALL YOU ALL DO ALSO.
AND COUNCILMAN FELIX, LET ME TELL YOU, MY WIFE IS WATCHING THIS ALSO BECAUSE SHE'S LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY A COMMITTEE MEETING IS GOING THAT LATE.
RIGHT. COUNCILMAN IS GOING THAT WAY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY, YEAH, THE I THINK WAS THE THIRD SLIDE, YOU HAD LIKE A THOUSAND OPPOSED LIST OF THINGS.
ONE WAS PUBLIC FUNDS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS.
NOW, SOME THINGS WE ACTUALLY VOTE ON AS FAR AS PRIORITIES, THAT WASN'T UNANIMOUS, JUST PUT THAT WAY. BUT THERE'S ONE IT'S INTERESTING THERE AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. YOU'RE HERE.
LOOK, YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GUYS CAME THROUGH, I SAID ON THE REVIEW COMMITTEE AND YOU GUYS EARNED THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE DOING HERE AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
I'M NOT GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.
BUT THE PUBLIC FUNDS FOR LOBBYING BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
I KNOW WHY YOU FINANCIALLY DON'T WHY YOU OPPOSE THAT, BUT WHAT'S THE ARGUE OUTSIDE FINANCIAL FINANCIAL INTEREST? WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT FOR THAT? BECAUSE I TELL YOU, IT HAS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME.
WE'RE ELECTED TO REPRESENT OUR PEOPLE SO WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS AT A LEVEL SAME THING WITH OUR CHARTER OFFICERS. AND SO IF WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM OR ARE US FEDERAL LEVEL TO OUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN, ESPECIALLY CONGRESSMEN, USUALLY PRETTY LOCAL ENOUGH SENATORS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO GET A HOLD OF, I'M SURE.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE, THOUGH, IS LIKE, WHY DON'T WE DO IT WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR ELECTED LEADERS OPPOSED TO THAT IF EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PLANE? I MEAN, THE ISSUE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE YOU BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS USING THE LOBBYISTS. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT LOBBYISTS, YOU MIGHT NOT YOU MIGHT GET OPPOSED ON THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD BE OPPOSED FOR.
BUT WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR ARGUMENT FOR WHY KEEPING IT THIS WAY INSTEAD OF LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD WHERE NOBODY HAS ONE? NO KNOW. AND I THINK YOU ASK I THINK IT SHOULD BE LIKE THIS, THOUGH, NOT JUST ONE DURING THE OTHER. I THINK IF YOU WOULD ASK A FEW OF YOU, I CALLED SOME OF YOU DURING SESSION AND SAY I WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF YOU SENT A TEXT, IF YOU SENT A PHONE CALL.
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SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOUR LOBBYIST IS WORKING IN COORDINATION AND NOT DOING IT SOLELY, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IT SOUNDS GOOD AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE YOUR LOBBYISTS, BUT YOU CAN'T BE IN TALLAHASSEE ALL THE TIME.
YOU CAN'T BE IN THE HALLWAYS DURING CONFERENCE WHEN THE MOST IMPORTANT TIMES YOU LIVE IN THE CAPITOL FOR ABOUT FIVE TO SIX DAYS DURING CONFERENCING IN THE BUDGET WHEN IT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH. AND I WOULD SAY PROBABLY JUST THE TIME.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF LEGISLATORS I MEAN, IF ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE ABLE TO LEAVE DURING SESSION AND STAY UP THERE DURING THAT TIME, I'D SAY THERE'D BE NO NEED.
BUT IN THE END, IF WE'RE NOT HELPING YOU SAVE MONEY, IF WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE COSTING LESS THAN YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL GOVERNMENT RELATIONS PERSON AND OBVIOUSLY HAVING A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, THEN I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD BE REPLACED. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING STAFF, FOR BEING RESPONSIVE.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE TO IT SOUNDS LIKE KNOW NOT JUST MY PHONE CALL YOU PICKED UP, YOU'RE PICKING UP EVERYBODY. ABSOLUTELY.
I WAS ALWAYS VERY HAPPY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU ARE AVAILABLE.
AND I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE IT.
WELL, I ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.
I REALLY DO. AND YOU AND YOU MAKE IT EASY IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE EVENING AS WELL.
IT'S THE GILBERTON. GILBERTON,
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.WHEN THE CITY WAS CHANGING GARBAGE COMPANIES FOR THE PICKUPS, IT WENT FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT TO REPUBLIK.
AT THAT TIME. I VOICE MY OPINION AND I ALSO VOICE MY OPINION WHEN I SAW THE RESULT THAT I WAS RECEIVING FROM REPUBLIC, THEY EVEN WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY, WERE PICKING UP STUFF THAT WAS LEFT BY WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THEY MADE THEY SENT SPECIAL TRIPS.
AND SO I RECOGNIZED THEM FOR THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENT OF GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND FROM WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
BILL BATTON IS A TYPE OF PERSON.
WHEN YOU I'LL REWRITE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE YOU WHEN YOU DO GOOD.
BUT IF YOU DO BAD, I'LL ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, WELL, I WAS IN DEALING WITH THEM NOW FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS ON YARD WASTE AND I MADE MY PHONE CALLS TO THE 800 NUMBER THAT'S ON THE SHEET OF PAPER THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE CITY.
SO I FOLLOWED THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO EYE CONTACT AND THEY SAY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WE'LL PUT YOU DOWN AND THEY FOR THIS ADDITIONAL PICK UP AND TO TRY AND SOLVE IT. WELL, NOTHING HAPPENED FOR THREE WEEKS.
AND I AND I'M NOT A PERSON TO WAIT TOO LONG IN BETWEEN CALLS ANYHOW.
AND I WAS TALKING WITH A CITY MANAGER THERE.
I SAID, WELL, I'M GOING TO BRING THIS UP AT CITY COUNCIL.
AND LO AND BEHOLD, SHE SAID, WELL, BILL, YOU SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED LOCAL.
NO, BUT THE CITY NEVER PROVIDED THE LOCAL NUMBER.
SO EVERYTHING IS BEING SENT TO SOUTH CAROLINA.
THEY COULD CARE LESS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PALM BAY.
BUT ANYHOW, AFTER TALKING WITH CITY MANAGER, LITERALLY WITHIN 30 MINUTES, A REPUBLIC'S TRUCK WAS AT MY FRONT DOOR.
IT WAS THE REGULAR SUPERVISOR.
WILLIAM IS ON VACATION, BUT ONE WAS THERE.
HE SHOWED UP IN HIS PICKUP TRUCK.
I WATCH THAT YOUNG MAN PICK UP THAT STUFF THAT HE COULD FOR THE SMALL YARD, WASTE CONTAINERS, DUMPED THEM IN THE BACK OF HIS PICKUP TRUCK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS GONE THEN AND THEN HE CALLED FOR A CLAM TRUCK.
AND IN AN HOUR AFTER THAT, THE CLAM TRUCK SHOWED UP THAT HAD TAKEN FOR THREE WEEKS REPEATED CALLS.
SO I WAS GOING TO TELL THE CITY COUNCIL WHY I'M GOING TO DO IS THE CONTRACT WAS WITH REPUBLIC. SO IF THEY FAIL TO DO THEIR JOB, I'M SUBTRACTING THE PAY THAT I'M SENT, THE MONEY THAT I'M SENDING THE CITY.
I'M SUBTRACTING THAT FROM WHAT I SEND IN.
IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL IN FINANCIAL, BUT IT SURE MESSES WITH THE BOOKKEEPING.
BUT I'VE DECIDED I WILL BECAUSE THEY JUMPED OUT THERE REAL QUICK, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE A CLEAN SLATE, THERE IS THEIR SECOND CHANCE TO START OVER AGAIN BEFORE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY. I'M PAYING THE CITY.
WELL, I WAS GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE CITY, BUT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE ONE.
HE JUMP JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
AND I RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY SOMEHOW GET THAT LOCAL NUMBER OUT THERE TO THE RESIDENTS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I DID.
WITH DEALING WITH SOUTH CAROLINA.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SENIOR CHIEF.
MR. RON WILLIAMS LEFT BECAUSE.
HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO WAIT FOR A LONG TIME, BUT FOLLOWED BY HIM IS RANDALL CHAYEFSKY.
MORNING COUNCIL, IT'S OFFICIALLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON THING.
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I RESIDE AT THREE FORTY EIGHT BROOKLYN STREET NE.I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS EARLIER IN MY COMMENTS THAT I DID CLOSE IN MY NEW HOME TODAY, A NEW CONSTRUCTION HOME.
AND I DID JUST WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF GRATITUDE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHEN MY WIFE AND I DECIDED TO MOVE BACK HERE AND MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE ALLOWED ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE BACK HERE LAST FALL, WE HAD OPTIONS.
YOU KNOW, WE KNEW WE WERE COMING BACK TO PROVIDE.
WE KNEW WE WERE COMING BACK TO SOUTHERN OUR WE LOOKED IN WEST MELBOURNE.
WE'RE LOOKING EVERYWHERE, EVERYWHERE THAT ANYONE THAT'S SHOPPING NOWADAYS IS GOING TO LOOK. WE CAME BACK TO OUR HOMETOWN OF PALM BAY, AS I DESCRIBED IN MY COMMENTS EARLIER.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE ME AND MY WIFE MET, WHERE OUR STORY BEGAN AND SO MANY DECADES AND YEARS. THIS IS WHERE IT'LL ALL END.
BUT AS WE'RE WE'RE DEALING WITH EVERYTHING.
AND WE WERE TALKING WITH BUILDERS AND STUFF AND DECIDING HOW TO BUILD WHERE TO BUILD A HOUSE AND WHO TO GO WITH AND SO ON.
SO MANY PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY TOLD ME TO NOT BUILD A HOUSE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY ME THAT THE SYSTEMS ARE ANTIQUATED.
YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING INTO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THINGS OF THE SORT.
THE WORST OFFENDER TELLING ME ABOUT THIS REPUTATION WAS WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER BUILDERS IN TOWN WHO IS NOW PURCHASED BY A FOREIGN ENTITY.
SO I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT THEIR OPINION IS.
I DIDN'T GO WITH THEM. I WENT A SMALL GUY IN TOWN.
AND THE REASON I WROTE THAT SMALL GUY IS BECAUSE HE OFFERED ME SOME INSIGHT AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, SYDNEY PALM BAY HAS BEEN TOUGH TO DO BUSINESS WITH, BUT I'VE BEEN OUT HERE ON MY OWN FOR ABOUT 12, 18 MONTHS.
AND IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE I LEFT, ONE OF THE BIGGER COMPANIES, THINGS HAVE BEEN IMPROVING. SO I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY HESITATION IN BUILDING CITY PALM BAY THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES.
THIS IS HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WEEKS YOU'RE GOING TO BE FROM INITIAL PERMIT TO THE NEXT ONE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER WHATEVER TIME LINE THAT HE GAVE ME WAS OMPA.
I NEVER GOT A CALL FROM MY BUILDER AND SAID, LISTEN, THE CITY OF PALM BAY DIDN'T SHOW UP.
YOUR PERMIT DIDN'T COME THROUGH ON TIME.
YOUR INSPECTOR DIDN'T COME THROUGH ON TIME.
YOU KNOW, I HAD MY CLOSING THIS MORNING.
I WAS WORRIED ALL WEEK ABOUT GETTING MY CEO TOMMASEO YESTERDAY RIGHT ON TIME.
AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO EVERYONE INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S A BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT INVOLVED IN THAT, THAT I WAS ABLE TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
AS YOU GUYS ALL KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE WITH YOU FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS WHILE I'VE BEEN RESIDING AT THE HOME THAT I WAS RESIDING AND GOING THROUGH THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND SEEING ALL THE PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE SITTING ON THE DAIS WHERE THEY SIT BACK THERE FOR THE STAFF THAT ARE MOVING THE CITY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO I DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OBJECTION EARLIER WHEN WHEN SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PEOPLE UP HERE AND SAYING THAT THESE FOLKS ARE PART OF THE CORRUPTION AND THE DIRTINESS AND THE UGLINESS OF THE CITY.
I THINK THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S IN POSITIONS CURRENTLY WITH THE CITY IS PART OF THE LIGHT OF THE CITY AND IT'S PART OF WHY THE CITY IS SHINING.
SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU ON THE DAIS.
I APPRECIATE ALL YOU THAT SIT IN THE STAFF TABLES.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THIS GREAT CITY.
AND I MEANT EVERYTHING I SAID EARLIER.
I'M DISAPPOINTED WITH THE OUTCOME.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
I DO. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE TOLERATE EACH OTHER ALL DAY LONG, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY CACHÉ IT AS HUMAN BEINGS.
WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE CAN ONLY SHINE LIGHT.
AND I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO SHINE YOUR LIGHT ON THIS GREAT CITY, AND I INTEND TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU, GUYS.
THANK YOU. HEY, WE'RE ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM NUMBER ONE, AND I'M SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE.
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I'M OFFICIALLY OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HERE.THANK YOU. THIS IS THE FINAL HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES TO BE FUNDED BY KBG AND BY HOME.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS FROM SAHHAF? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE OF.
IN CLOSING, THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY FISCAL YEAR 2021 2022 CDB AND HOME ACTION PLAN AUTHORIZED SUBMISSION OF THE PLAN TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT HUD AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN ALL SUBSEQUENT CERTIFICATIONS AND AGREEMENTS.
A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN BAILEY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL IN LONDON, I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE US AS UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER TWO, MS. SMITH ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH 46 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 BUDGET APPROPRIATE IN ALLOCATING FUNDS AS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A.
CONSISTING OF FIVE PAGES AND INCORPORATE IT IN ITS ENTIRETY HERE IN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF AUTOPSIES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CHAPTER 35.
ADOPTING, RATIFYING, AFFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. WHEN I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD.
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IT'S LATE, I'M SORRY.THANK YOU, MARY. THIS IS OUR THIS IS OUR THIRD QUARTERLY BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THIS IS THE FINAL READING. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WAS LOOKING AT YOU, MR. WEISS, THINKING YOU WERE STEPPING UP.
MOTION IMPROVE ON ITS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH FORTY SIX, FINAL READING SECOND AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND I BELIEVE I GOT A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, I'M ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER THREE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH FORTY EIGHT, ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 179 STREETS AND OTHER RIGHT AWAY CREATE A NEW SUBCHAPTER TITLE GOLF COURSE PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDER.
SUZANNE CONFLICT HERE WITH WRITING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
I OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP OUT.
THANK YOU, JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT BUSINESS ADDRESS IS TWENTY SIX FIFTY ONE MR. GARY BOULEVARD AND I WILL BE VERY BRIEF AT THIS HOUR, THE AUDIENCE.
SO WE HAVE WE HAD AN EXHIBIT AND WE JUST HAD A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS ON IT.
WE WORKED WITH STAFF AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND WE JUST WANT TO MODIFY A COUPLE OF THE NOTES TO BE A LITTLE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
OH, THE SECOND READING, I'M SO SORRY FOR THAT.
HE STARTS. SO WE HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM, SADDAM, STEP FORWARD. SENIOR CHIEF MATT.
QUICK ON THIS ONE, I HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE IT COULDN'T BE COMBINING CARTS WITH THE SIDEWALKS. MY QUESTION WAS AND I SKIMMED IT AND I COULDN'T FIND IT, WHO HAS RIGHT AWAY ON THE SIDEWALK? IS IT THE MOTORIZED VEHICLE, THE GOLF CART OR THE PEDESTRIAN WHO MOVES OUT OR WHOSE WAY IS THAT? I KNOW, RIGHT BY MIGHT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW, IS THAT PRADESH IS THE FOOT TRAFFIC THE RIGHT AWAY OR IS IT THE MOTORIZED VEHICLE? I COULDN'T FIND THAT IN THE ORDINANCE ANYWHERE BECAUSE I SEE IT HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
SEE IT COMING. EVERYBODY STEPS INTO THE GRASS OF THE DOG, BUT LET THE CART GO THROUGH.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SADDAM? YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT MR. WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO YOU DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS IT.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASKING FOR A MOTION TO IMPROVE ON ITS 20 21 DASH 48 FINAL READING.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING AND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, I BELIEVE ALL IN FAVOR OF MAYOR. REAL QUICK, JUST JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DO HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS FOR NOT HAVING THESE CROSS ARE RIGHT AWAY'S.
I DON'T MIND WHAT COMMUTE WHEN A PRIVATE COMMUNITY DOES AND THEIR ROADWAYS, WHERE IT'S PROBABLY MOSTLY ALL RESIDENTIAL, BUT WHATEVER THEY DO, THAT'S FINE.
BUT AS FAR AS OURS, WHAT'S IN PUBLIC CONTROL? I JUST DON'T LIKE THEM CROSSING.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING AGAINST.
YEAH. AND I DO REMEMBER THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP LAST TIME WE HAD THE DISCUSSION AND IN BURAK THEY HAVE LIKE UNDERGROUND PASSAGE AND I THINK THAT WAS DISCUSSED TO THE OVERPASS.
SO SINCE THAT WAS DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK.
IN THE EIGHT SIX ZERO FOUR FIVE SOUTHWEST'S ONLY PUBLIC HEARING AND NO, I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN.
THANK YOU, BRENDA. AND WE'RE LIKE WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING AT VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR OVERPASSES TO SEE IF THERE IS DIFFERENT STRUCTURES, HOW IT WOULD BE BASED ON MILES PER HOUR ON NUMBER OF PEOPLE TRAFFIC.
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SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO START WE'VE STARTED LOOKING INTO WITH VARIOUS OPTIONS. WE'VE LOOKED AT THE VILLAGES, A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES, GULF COAST COMMUNITIES OUT OF FLORIDA. SO I THINK WE'LL.BE PROPOSING SOMETHING PROBABLY BEFORE THE NEXT FAZING THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PALM BAY TODAY, SO OUR NEXT PHASE THAT WE GO INTO OUR FUTURE PHASE WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO THERE WOULD BE MAYBE WITH SOME COMPLEX THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING INTO.
AND I THINK ORIGINALLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME SORT OF A PASS OVER THE ROAD, AND THAT WAS NOT, I THINK, SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WAS LOOKING AT AT THE TIME.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ALSO A GOOD ENTITY FEATURE IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO CROSS OVER THE FULL RIDE AWAY AND GO FROM THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THAT.
YES, MA'AM. AND I DO REMEMBER BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONTENTION FROM COUNCILMAN BAILEY.
AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE OVERPASS, I'VE SEEN THOSE AND I I WAS QUITE SATISFIED WITH THAT RESPONSE OF, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER THE ST.
AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S VARIOUS OPTIONS OR WOOD STRUCTURES THERE, STEEL STRUCTURES ALSO SIZING AND EXACTLY WHERE IT GOES INTO WHICH PARCELS AND MAKING SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF DISTANCE AND SITE DISTANCES BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION.
SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO.
IT DOES TAKE QUITE A FEW, I WOULD SAY MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE STUDY AND START LOOKING AND TALKING TO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS.
AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD DISCUSS WITH YOUR STAFF AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS WE COME UP THROUGH THE NEXT ONE.
SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING SAFETY FEATURE.
I THINK SO. I THINK ESPECIALLY IF ALL THE ACTIONS ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THAT ROAD.
SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT COUNCILWOMAN GOOD.
I REALLY AM WITH WITH THAT ACCESS AND THE SAFETY COMPONENT.
THANK YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, WITH AS WE'RE DOING THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PARKWAY, ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT BEING BUILT FIRST.
A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THIS SIGNALS THE SIGNAGE, THE DIRECTIONALS.
AND FOR THOSE GOLF CARTS THAT ARE ON SIDEWALKS, IT'S REALLY MULTIUSE PATHS WHICH ARE 12 FEET. SO HOPEFULLY THAT SHOULD GIVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR GOLF CARTS AND PEOPLE AND DOGS.
IT REAL QUICK, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY, AND IT'S A REAL SHAME.
I'M HAVE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF EXTENDED FAMILY STILL IN PALM BAY.
THEY'RE NOT ALL LEAVING AND THE WHOLE CLAN.
BUT BUT NO, THE CHANCE TO COME VISIT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT TO SEE THE PROJECT.
WELL, WHAT I'M HEARING AND MAKE SURE WHICH I'M HOPING FOR IS THAT YOU GUYS TAKE IT, MAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE LIKE A LANDMARK.
RIGHT. TO MAKE IT A VISUAL ENTRANCE.
OLEG'S OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT THERE, THAT THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL WITH PALM BAY UNDERNEATH IT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WELL, ONE OF THE EXITS AS I WAS COMING HERE WAS ACROSS THE SEBASTIAN OR SEBASTIAN ELSMERE IS. AND THAT WAS THAT PROPERTY ACTUALLY THAT I ALSO WORKED ON.
AND WHEN THE STATE TOOK THAT OVER TO CREATE THAT BRIDGE, I HAD NO IDEA THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH A LITTLE TRAIN AND A LITTLE POP.
SO WE'RE STARTING LOOKING AT THAT.
AND I THINK MR. PLACES REALLY EXCITED ABOUT DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD LOOK AT A LANDMARK. IF YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, WE WOULD ALSO LOOK INTO THAT.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? CNN, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN AND ASK FOR EMOTION.
WAS IT APPROVED OR IN ITS 20, 21, DASH 48 ON A RATING? AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR, AND HE OPPOSED. PASSES FOR ONE.
COUNCILMAN BAILEY IN THE NAME.
[PROCUREMENTS]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A CULMINATION OF A LOT OF MONTHS OF WORK, OF RESEARCH RELATED TO BODY CAMERAS.IT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL NUMEROUS TIMES ABOUT THE REQUEST TO LOOK INTO THAT HAS ACTUALLY DONE MULTIPLE TRIALS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF BODY CAMERA SYSTEMS AND HAS RECOMMENDED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT YOU USE A COOPERATIVE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH A SOURCE WELL, TO PURCHASE AXON BODY CAMERAS.
THE TOTAL THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.
IT WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER ONE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS.
ALSO IN THE MEMO, WE'VE KIND OF SPECIFIED AND DETAILED FOR YOU A COUPLE OF THE THERE'S TWO STAFF, ADDITIONAL STAFF PEOPLE, CLERICAL NATURE RELATED TO EVIDENCE AND RECORD
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STORAGE. IT WOULD BE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.YOU'RE NOT DECIDING THAT TONIGHT.
I'VE PUT THAT IN THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE THOSE ARE TWO POSITIONS WE WOULD BE INCLUDING IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
AND THE OTHER TWO THINGS TO KNOW IS THE ONE POINT SIX DOLLARS MILLION HAS BROKEN UP INTO ANNUAL PAYMENTS OF ABOUT THREE HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND EACH YEAR.
IT WOULD BE COMMITTING TO THIS SO FOR THE FUTURE.
SO THAT WOULD BE WHATEVER THE NEW CONTRACT READ IS IN THE FUTURE IS BEYOND FIVE.
WE WOULD BE COMMITTED TO THAT IF COUNCILWOMAN TO KEEP BODY CAMERAS.
AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HERE IS THAT THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF THE COST FOR THE BODY CAMERAS, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT SIX HUNDRED FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AT ANNUAL OF 20 PETY ANNUALLY, WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.
FUNDING IN THE BALANCE FOUR YEARS, THREE AND BEYOND WOULD THEN BE BUILT INTO PART OF THE BASE BUDGET FOR GENERAL FUND.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON IT.
ANY QUESTIONS? SHERMAN BAILEY, YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, MS. SHERMAN, I THINK WHEN WE HAD A BRIEFING EARLIER THIS WEEK, I THINK I THINK IT WAS KIND OF IMPLIED, BUT I DIDN'T ASK EXPLICITLY.
WE DO HAVE THE OPTION OF MAYBE WE DID, BUT WE DO HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING YEARS THREE THROUGH FIVE AS WELL. RIGHT, WITH ARPA FUNDS.
OH, WE DO. WHAT WHAT THE LIMITATION WOULD BE IS THE FUNDING THAT WE CAN USE OUT OF THE ARPA FUNDS TO FUND SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IT'S COMING FROM THAT PRIOR YEAR LOST REVENUE CALCULATION OF FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLION.
WHAT WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THE USE OF THAT FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLION, ONE OF THE HIGHER PRIORITIES IS ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR REPLACEMENT OF OUR VERY ANTIQUATED FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
SO THAT WAS ABOUT TWO MILLION OF THE FOUR POINT EIGHT.
WE HAD ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT CHUNK THERE FOR THE NEW BUILDING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND THEN THE BALANCE WAS ABOUT EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND AND CHANGE FOR POLICE AND FIRE EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING YOU SUB FOR THAT THOSE FIRST TWO YEARS.
MOST SHOULD HAVE AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THE CITY'S AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT REVENUE LOSS FUNDS FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF FUNDING FOR THE ACQUISITION OF BODY CAMS AND RELATED EQUIPMENT, APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF BODY CAMERAS UTILIZING COOPERATIVE SOURCE FOR CONTRACT CASH TO ZERO ONE ZERO SEVEN TWO ZERO.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
OR THE DISCUSSION COUNCIL, YEAH, AND MAYBE I SHOULD ASK THIS QUESTION MS. SHERMAN REAL QUICK, TOO. CAN THAT BE CAN THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR YEARS, THREE THROUGH FIVE STILL BE REVISITED BY COUNCILMAN THE FUTURE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY, AND IN FACT, TECHNICALLY, YOU'RE ONLY DOING ONE YEAR WORTH AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE DO ONE AT A TIME.
ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST FOR A DISCUSSION, MAYOR.
I MEAN, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
THIS IS A GREAT ITEM. I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS.
IT WASN'T LIKE MY BABY, BUT I KNOW I KNOW JUST WHEN THOSE PASSING THINGS AND OTHER COUNCILMAN HAVE, I THINK WE EVEN HAD A IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I THINK OF MAYBE FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO, WE MIGHT HAVE DID A KIND OF A TEMPORARY THING, LIKE WE DIDN'T KNOW THE TRIAL THING LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
BUT BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE FINALLY THEY WERE ACTUALLY FUNNY AND DOING IT.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.
BUT I DO THINK IN THE FUTURE THAT NOW, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, THAT THE RBA MONEY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US WOULD BE BETTER SPENT ON THIS THAN IT WOULD SAY BUILDING THE I'D RATHER BAILEY NEED BE FUNDED THROUGH THE OTHER FUNDS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE WITH THE BUILDING.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT I WOULD TAKE THE RBA FUNDS, WHICH IS LIKE A REALLY A WINDFALL TO US AND THROW THAT AT A BUILDING AND LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHAT STAFF KNOW DIRECTORS AND SEE MANAGERS BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, MS. SHERMAN HAS OUR REVIEW THAT WITH HER STAFF AND MADE A CHOICE HERE TONIGHT AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATION. BUT I JUST THINK THAT MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE SPENDING THAT FOUR POINT EIGHT.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILWOMAN, AT THE SAME TIME, I REMEMBER THE CHIEF GIVING THAT PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, EARLY IN OUR TERMS OR THIS THIS CURRENT TERM.
BARS AND PEOPLE, AND SO I WANT US TO I WANT I'D LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO BE AWARE THAT.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, PEOPLE ARE THE NUMBER ONE RESOURCE THAT'S OUT THERE PROTECTING US AS WELL. SO LET'S CONSIDER THAT AS WE VOTE ON THIS ITEM, LET'S LET'S CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE PROTECTING US EACH AND EVERY DAY. WE'RE HELPING THEM AS WELL.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MADE THE MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSES PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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WE'RE ON COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WE'LL START WITH YOU, MR., FELIX.THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL KEEP IT SHORT.
[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]
I'M VERY ENCOURAGED AND PLEASED TO SAY THAT INFORM THE PUBLIC SPACE COAST DPO.WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO BE THERE AS THREE.
THE THREE NEW MEMBER ON KOUTS COUNCIL MYSELF, COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND MAYOR MEDINA.
WE ARE CURRENT MEMBER ON THE SPACE COAST TPO.
THEY DO HAVE A LIST OF PROJECT PRARIE, YOU KNOW, PROJECT PRIORITY, AND WE WERE VERY PLEASED TO MOVE UP.
TWO OF OUR MAJOR PROJECT WITHIN THE CITY, THE SOUTHBOUND FROM MALABAR TO BABCOCK, DOWN TO THE HERITAGE HERITAGE PARKWAY, THAT PROJECT WAS LISTED FOR A LONG TIME, LISTED AS NUMBER 16 ON THE LIST AND MALABAR MINTERN, THE WHITING OF MALABAR MENTENG ALL THE WAY TO HERITAGE PARKWAY. SO WE WERE ABLE TO TO MOVE THOSE TWO PROJECTS UP THE TOP FIVE TO THE TOP FIVE. SO MEANING FROM NUMBER 12 AND NUMBER 16 NOW FOUR AND FIVE.
SO THIS WAS VERY PLEASING, VERY IT WAS GREAT NEWS.
WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES.
SHE WAS VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT.
SHE WAS A VERY STERN AND VERY FIRM.
US, TOO. FOR HER TO SUPPORT, SHE WOULD HAVE TO.
SO IN ANY CASE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE, GET IT GET MAKE MAKE THAT CHANGE WITHOUT HER SUPPORT. SO I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.
I FIGURED THAT'S GOOD NEWS BECAUSE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE TABLE OR ON THE TABLE, YOU GET YOU GET FORGETTIN.
SO WE WERE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO BE A VOICE FOR PALM BAY, YOU KNOW, TO TO MOVE THOSE PROJECTS ON TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST INCLUDE MY REPORT.
THAT IS EXCITING NEWS AND THAT IS A GREAT, GREAT REPORT.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY OTHER THAN WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX SAID IT WAS, WE GOT TO FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING IN PALM BAY SOME OF THE SMALLER CITIES WAS WAY ABOVE US AND WE HAD SOME MAJOR, MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.
HOPEFULLY, IF CONGRESS GET OFF THE BEHIND AND PASS THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, MAYBE SOME OF THAT STUFF MIGHT GET FUNDED.
THE BABCOCK MALABAR, DOWNTOWN BABCOCK TO THE MELKO OR MITTON TO HARIDAS PARKWAY, WIDENING THE ROAD OF MALABAR, SO CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND TELL THEM TO PASS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. I DON'T CARE WHAT PARTY THEY ARE.
AMERICAN NEEDS TO BE BUILT AND WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE WE GO, WHY NIMROZ, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS GETTING WORSE EVERY DAY.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
AND I BELIEVE THAT ISSUE IS WITH THE LEADERSHIP, AS YOU SAID, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE US HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO KUDOS TO COUNCILMAN, FOSTER, COUNCILMAN, FELIX AND COUNCILMAN COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE ZONKER, BECAUSE I WAS MADE AWARE AT THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES OF WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED.
SO ALL IS IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS OF, YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAD REALLY BEEN ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE SPACE COAST IN REGARDS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO FOR THEM TO JUMP IN FOR COMMISSIONER ZONKER TO SPEAK PASSIONATELY IS THE TERM THAT WAS TOLD TO SPEAK PASSIONATELY ON OUR BEHALF.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT WITH THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TOMORROW IN ORLANDO.
WE HAD OUR MEETING ON MONDAY WHERE WE GOT AN UPDATE FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES OF WHAT TRANSPIRED, JUST LIKE WE GOT AN UPDATE FROM SUNRISE CONSULTANT.
AND THAT WENT VERY WELL AS WELL.
AND THAT WAS WITH THE INDIAN INDIAN HARBOR BEACH.
AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT MONTH AS WELL.
THERE'S STILL ENOUGH TIME TO APPLY FOR THE SPACE SKILLS.
THE LEAGUE, A CITY SCHOLARSHIP APPLICATION.
YOU COULD JUST SEND YOUR APPLICATION TO KINECT JOHNSON AT PALM BAY.
FLORIDA ORG. SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION.
OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE APPLICATION, EMAIL ME AND I'LL SHOOT IT OVER TO YOU.
OTHER THAN THAT ON THIS, FROM PRESENTATIONS UP TO NOW, THAT TOOK APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR AT
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MOST. AND THE REASON WHY I CAN SUPPORT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT WAS REVISED WAS BECAUSE WE MISSED OUT ON A KEY OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE ON, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT REGARDING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE STATE LEGISLATION FROM 21 TO 22 TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, TO BODY CAMERAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, TO THE COUNCIL REPORTS REGARDING OUR SPACE SCHOOLS TPO.SO WE HAD A KEY OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EDUCATE.
I HOPE SOME OF THEM ARE STILL TUNING IN AND I HOPE THEY COME BACK.
I REALLY DO. BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE REALLY MISSED THE MARK ON EDUCATING ON THAT AND THE FACT THAT NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO IS RIGHT BEFORE THE CERTIFICATION OF TAXABLE VALUES, WHICH IS A HOT TOPIC AS WELL.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNSEL FOR INDULGING THE SUGGESTION OF BRINGING MOVING THAT ITEM UP BECAUSE IT WAS BEING COURTEOUS TO TO THE AUDIENCE.
AND AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A LARGE AUDIENCE HERE THAT WERE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR TIME AS WELL.
WE'RE ON NEW BUSINESS, NUMBER ONE, AND I'LL DEFER TO ADAM SMITH.
[NEW BUSINESS (Part 2 of 2)]
RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE THIRTY SEVEN, A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING A PORTION OF IMROTH LAKES WEST FACE TO DEVELOPMENT AS A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO INTERSTATE 95 IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE ST.JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, PROVIDING FOR COMPLIANCE WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S FORTY EIGHT.
RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PROGRESSIVE RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. HE MOVES THE.
LOBATON. GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION WITH THIS ONE IN THE AREA WHERE I LIVE, PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO LOAD THEIR FLATBED TRAILERS UP, HOOK THEM TO THEIR VEHICLES, AND THEN DRIVE THEM OUT TO WHERE I LIVE AND THEN DRIVE ALL OVER THE COUNTRYSIDE. AND I'M JUST WONDERING NOW THAT WE JUST PASSED THE GOLF CART ORDINANCE, IT WAS JUST PASSED. IF I CAN NOW BUY A GOLF CART LOADED ON MY FLATBED AND DRIVE IT UP TO EMERALD LAKES AND DRIVE AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO PRESENT THE ENTIRE ITEM? ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO COME UP AND JUST GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEY'VE REQUESTED.
AND THEY ALSO REQUEST A LITTLE CHANGE TO SOME LANGUAGE IN THE EXHIBIT THAT I EMAILED TO COUNCIL EARLIER TODAY TO THE CHAIR.
THAT TO THANK YOU, MR. FADDEN'S. ALWAYS WELCOME TAMARO LAKES.
SO I JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR EARLIER APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE AND SPECIFIC TO EMERALD LAKES PHASE TWO. WE DID HAVE A MINOR CHANGE TO THE NOTES IN THE EXHIBIT WAS JUST MERELY A CLARIFICATION THAT WE WORKED OUT WITH STAFF THAT THEY SUPPORT.
WE JUST WANT TO SPECIFY THAT THE NOTES WOULD SAY THAT GOLF CARTS ARE ALLOWED TO USE THE MULTIUSE PATH LOCATED NORTH OF THE ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, APPROVED CROSSINGS AT SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS ONLY ACROSS THE PARKWAY AND WITHIN THE EMERALD LAKES DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
AND THEN WE ALSO CLARIFIED THAT GOLF CARTS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO CROSS THE ST.
JOHN'S PARKWAY AT NON'S SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS.
AND AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OVERPASS.
IT COULD BE AN ICONIC ENTRANCE TO DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.
SO WITH THAT, AT THIS LATE HOUR, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR INTERPRETER HERE TO HELP WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN BAILEY KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON? THANK YOU. YOU ALSO.
I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH 37 TO INCLUDE MODIFICATIONS BY THE APPLICANT.
I GOT A MOTION MY DEPUTY MADE JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. NOW, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK I SAW YOU NODDING OFF OF THERE, JAKE.
I JUST WONDER HOW THEY USUALLY GO TO BED.
YOU MUST BE OR MUST GO TO BED EARLY.
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GLAD YOU STUCK WITH US. YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT THERE? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL? HEY. ALL IN FAVOR BY ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER THREE.MS. SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE SETTING OF THE MAXIMUM OPERATING MILLAGE FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST TO MENTION FOR THE RECORD.
SO WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED HERE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION IS TO SET THE MAXIMUM OPERATING MILLAGE AT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR RATE, WHICH IS SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT.
HOWEVER, AS WE'VE RECEIVED PREVIOUS COUNCIL DIRECTION REGARDING SETTING THE RATE AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP, WE ARE BUILDING THE BUDGET ON SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE MILLS.
HOWEVER, TONIGHT, THE OPERATING MAXIMILIEN THAT'S LISTED HERE IS SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT. AND ALSO WE ALSO ARE INCLUDING THIS PROPOSAL VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE FOR THE GO ROAD BONDS OF ONE POINT THREE, FOUR TO FOUR.
AND LASTLY, THIS ITEM INCLUDES REQUESTS TO OFFICIALLY APPROVE THE SCHEDULING IN THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING DATES, WHICH WOULD BE FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2021 AT 6PM, AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2021 AT SIX FOR APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEDINA SHERMAN? AND HE SPEAKER CARD, SIR RANDALL CHESKY, FOLLOWED BY SUZANNE CONNELLY.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, RANDALL MORNING, SORRY RANDALL SHAMSKY THREE FORTY EIGHT BIRKET STREET NE I'M A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER HERE SO I WAS THINKING THAT SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO SPEAK BEFORE ME BUT MY POINTS OF THE SAME ANYWAYS.
SO A FEW MINUTES YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE CHAIR OF THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AND THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.
I ALTHOUGH I AM A MEMBER OF THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, I AM SPEAKING TO YOU SIMPLY AS A CITIZEN.
AND I WANT TO DRAW THAT LINE OF DIFFERENTIATION, SPEAKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE ONLY IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AND UNDER THE SUNSHINE OF US ALL.
WE DID HAVE A VOTE. WE, THE BOARD AS A WHOLE, DID AUTHORIZE OUR CHAIR TO COME UP AND PRESENT TO YOU SPEAKING ON THAT.
AND THAT VOTE DID GO TO FOUR TO ONE.
AND AGAIN, I'M ONLY SHARING PUBLIC RECORD.
I WAS THE ONE DISSENTING VOTE.
BASICALLY, THE PROPOSED RATE RIGHT NOW IS AT THE SEVEN POINT EIGHT FOUR SEVEN NINE, IF I REMEMBER THAT, ANY SORT OF CLOSE.
BUT OF COURSE, AS WE KNOW, THAT THREE PERCENT CAP IS AT THE SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE, THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL.
THE CONSENSUS, IF IT COULD EVEN BE CALLED THAT DURING THE WORKSHOP, BECAUSE WORKSHOPS ARE PRETTY UNOFFICIAL. EVERYBODY KIND OF INDICATED AT SOME POINT FIVE NINE FIVE WAS THE SITUATION. WHAT STAFF EXPLAINED IS THAT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE A HIGHER RATE BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE, THINGS SHIFT, AND IT CAN ALWAYS COME DOWN.
BUT I BASICALLY, IN MY SPIRIT OF SHINING LIGHT, WANT TO SHINE LIGHT ON THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW IS WE APPROVE THIS HIGHER RATE.
WE WILL BE INITIALLY APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION OF GOING BEYOND THE CAP AND GOING BEYOND THE CAP IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY INTERESTING, SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT, WHETHER IT'S ON THE STREETS, CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD RIGHT HERE IN CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE STILL LISTENING, BUT I HOPE YOU ARE WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE COUNCIL THAT THREE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO APPOINT ONE PERSON, NOW, YOU CREATE A SITUATION THAT POTENTIALLY COULD MAKE THAT FOURTH PERSON FEEL OBLIGATED TO THOSE THREE PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE IN A VERY, VERY STICKY, HAIRY SITUATION WITH THIS APPOINTMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE FOR THIS INTERIM, BECAUSE THAT PERSON IS GOING TO SIT ON THE FIVE PERSON BODY THAT IS THEN GOING TO VOTE WHETHER WE BUST THE CAP OR NOT, AND WE GO OVER THE FIVE POINT FIVE NINE FIVE. SO EVERYBODY THAT I CAN TALK TO YOU HERE, MR., BAILEY, YOU'LL BE GONE BY THEN. EVERYBODY, THEY CAN TALK TO YOU HERE.
THAT WILL BE HERE LATER. PLEASE BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT THE PEOPLE VOTED ON.
PLEASE BE COGNIZANT THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WAS HERE TONIGHT THAT WAS OUT THERE IN THAT BUILDING IS WANTING TO STAY WITH CITIZEN VOTES.
SEE THE IDEA OF RAISING RATES SIMPLY BECAUSE I WANT TO PRACTICE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IF WE DO DETERMINE A STAFF HAS MADE A PRETTY GOOD CASE FOR THE FACT THAT THE THREE PERCENT CAP IS NOT FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE.
AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, COSTS CONTINUE TO GO UP.
IF THAT'S TRUE. AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CASES, EVIDENCE TO SAY THAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO BRING BACK TO A REFERENDUM ONCE PEOPLE VOTE ON IT.
SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
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ON THIS AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN IF YOU DO NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE.THANK YOU. SUZANNE CONNOLLY, FOLLOWED BY SOFIA PATTERSON.
BEFORE I BEGIN MY COMMENTS ON THE MILITARY, I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM THE EARLIER DISCUSSION THAT I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED AN US AND THEM WITH EACH OF YOU.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE COMING TO KNOW EACH OF YOU.
DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I ALSO MS. LARRY BRADLEY, WHO PASSED AWAY, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN.
I VOTED IN AGREEMENT WITH RANDALL CHESKY AND THE MILITARY.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THE THREE PERCENT CAP DOES LIMIT US AND I THINK OUR GROWTH RATE IS SO STUNNING IS IS WONDERFUL THAT WE NEED TO NOT LIMIT OURSELVES IN TERMS OF HALF WHAT I LEARNED BY SERVING ON I'M TO APPEARING AS I SERVE ON THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.
AND BUT WHAT I LEARNED BY BEING ON THE BOARD IS THAT SOME VERY SPECIFIC, INTERESTING THINGS. AND ONE IS THAT BY INCREASING OR GOING BEYOND.
THE CAP THAT THAT WOULD ONLY MEAN AN INCREASE OF 26 DOLLARS PER INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER THAT COULD TRANSLATE INTO A MILLION DOLLARS MORE AVAILABLE FUNDS IN OUR BUDGET.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
I DON'T MIND PAYING TWENTY SIX DOLLARS MORE OR CERTAINLY TO HAVE THAT IF WE STAY WITH THE THREE PERCENT CAP FROM ANGELICA COLLINS.
SHE SAID THAT THE NEW MONEY THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO WORK WITH, TO GRANT ALL THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE WOULD BE ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD WELL EXCEED WOULD EXCEED THAT. SO IT'S AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK TO LISTEN TO THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND HEAR WHAT THEY NEED, WHICH IS NOT EXTRAVAGANT BY ANY MEANS.
AND WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT OUR OUR OUR POLICE AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
MUST BE FUNDED AT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, AND TO EVEN THINK OF LIMITING WHAT THEY ARE MINIMALLY ASKING FOR IS IS UNCONSCIONABLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE CAN CHANGE THAT.
THERE ARE. WAS A OF MY TIME IS ALMOST UP, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AND.
CONSIDERATION. HAVE PATTERSON FOLLOWED BY ARAMA? AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE.
IT WAS HERE EARLIER, SOPHIA PATTERSON, DARYN ROAD, THE REASON WHY I'M SPEAKING ON THIS IS BECAUSE I NEEDED TO GET, AGAIN, SOME CLARIFICATION.
I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE CAP, AS WELL AS THE SCHEDULED DATES FOR THE BUDGET, PUBLIC HEARINGS TO TAKE PLACE IN SEPTEMBER AND IN LINE WITH WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE.
IF YOU GUYS CAN'T AGREE ON AN ISSUE NOW CONCERNING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT VOTE, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF CONSENSUS AND LEADERSHIP WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE BUSINESS WON'T GET DONE IF YOU GUYS CAN'T AGREE.
SO I'M JUST HERE TO APPEAL TO YOU IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS, AS WELL AS HOW THAT WILL AFFECT FUTURE VOTES, WHICH IS WHAT IN LINE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAILEY HAD SAID AND KENNY JOHNSON HAD SAID, DEPUTY MAYOR. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO STATE THIS ON THE RECORD.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD A COMMENT THAT WILL COME AGAIN LATER.
AREPAS. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR AARON POWER, 13 60 KANAB AVENUE, NW PALM BAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO START YES, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AS CHAIRMAN AND MY WORDS WILL BE THAT REPRESENTING OF THE BOARD AND NOT MY OWN WILL SUDDENLY. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD, PETE RANDALL, SUZANNE, JENAY, ALBERTA AND CHRIS.
THEY WERE EXTREMELY RESPECTFUL TO EACH OTHER.
WE WOULD CONTINUALLY DISCUSS HOW WE HAD ALL REACHED OUT TO CITIZENS AND BROUGHT THOSE
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COMMENTS BACK. EVERY MEETING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE HAD SHARED THINGS AND THEN SHARING THEM WITH EACH OTHERS TO CREATE THESE CONVERSATIONS, CREATE THESE DEBATES OVER THESE ISSUES AS WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN RESPONSE TO THIS VOTE FOR ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, I WANT TO THANK THE DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR PRESENTATION AND ADVISE THE PUBLIC, PLEASE GO WATCH THESE MEETINGS.ALL THESE THINGS WERE TELEVISED AND IT IS EXTREMELY EDUCATIONAL, EXTREMELY VALUABLE INFORMATION WAS DONE AT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD AND VERY GOOD STUFF.
VERY GOOD STUFF. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. ANGELICA SALLEH, LARRY SUZANNE, FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. YOU GUYS WERE EXTREMELY VALUABLE TO US.
OUR RECOMMENDATION READS AS THIS.
IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF SUZANNE BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD THAT THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS MAINTAINING THE CURRENT MILITARY FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON.
WE ARE A CITY THAT IS CONTINUING TO GROW AND NEEDS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PAPILLAE POPULATION. THIS REASON ALONE EXCEEDS WHAT THE THREE PERCENT CAP CAN FUND.
IT IS FORCING US AS A CITY TO CONTINUALLY CHOOSE WHICH ITEMS THE CITY CHOOSES TO FIND OVER MANY OTHERS THAT ARE SO DIRELY NEEDED, SUCH AS POLICE, FIRE, IT FLEET ROAD MAINTENANCE, ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS.
THAT'S OUR SIMPLE STATEMENT, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
YOU'VE. KASKASKIA, QUICK QUESTION, JUST CLARIFICATION, I APOLOGIZE, MS. PARK, TO BE CLEAR, AND I GUESS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TENTATIVE PROPOSED RATE TONIGHT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED BUSTING THE CAP AND LEAVING THE TAX RATE THE SAME EXPEDIENT CAP, MAINTAINING THE CURRENT MILITARY.
YES, I BELIEVE THAT CURRENT LOW.
I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT YOU ALL START TALKING ABOUT THE CAP AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO START NOW, HAVE PROBABLY MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT AND ASK ABOUT IT.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION. DID THE BOARD CONSIDER HOW MUCH NEW GROWTH WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST YEAR, HOW MUCH THAT'S ADDED TO OUR BUDGET? YES, AND WE DISCUSSED THAT AND WE WERE DISCUSSING THE ISSUES THAT THERE ARE ALREADY REALLOCATED FUNDS TO SEVERAL PURCHASES THAT ARE THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE, ALONG WITH CONVERSATION WITH ANGELICA IN THE MEETINGS, WE GOT TO THAT NUMBER OF AFTER THAT, IF WE ARE CONSIDERING THE THREE PERCENT CAP, WE ARE LEFT WITH APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED FORTY NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ANSWER TO MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF REQUESTS. AND I CAN SAY SPECIFICALLY IT WAS SHARED IN THE MEETING THAT SEVERAL OF THOSE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
I CAN SAY, WELL, I'VE SAID ON THAT BOARD, SEVERAL OF THOSE REQUESTS ARE LONG OVERDUE.
SO, I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE SITTING HERE TO LOOKING AT WE ONLY HAVE ONE HUNDRED FORTY NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS OF NEW FUNDS THAT WE CAN NOW ALLOCATE TO THESE REQUESTS.
IT WAS A POPULAR COMMENT, I'M BEING VERY CAREFUL TO MAKE SURE I'M SPEAKING AS A BROAD, POPULAR COMMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF OUR GROWTH.
WE WERE VERY CLEAR IN UNDERSTANDING THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION IS DELAYED THE YEAR BEFORE IT CAN COME ONTO THE TAX ROLLS.
AND THEN WE ALSO SHARED THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IMPACT FEES.
AND YES, THAT'S THE IMPACT THIS COMES ON TO HELP THE INITIAL.
BUT THAT'S A ONE AND DONE PAYMENT.
THAT'S NOT RECURRING FUNDS, WHICH MAKES IT SUSTAINABLE.
IF THAT'S A ONE AND DONE THAT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE VALUE THAT WE CAN COUNT ON YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. AND WE ARE SUCH A CITY OF VAST OPPORTUNITY AS FAR AS GROWTH.
AND IF WE'RE NOT KEEPING UP AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HEARING THE SAME REQUEST YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM.
ANOTHER COMMENT THAT WAS MADE IN THE MEETINGS IS IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE STAND PRESENTATION SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THEY WERE DISCUSSING ACTUALLY THE POTENTIAL OF DIPPING INTO RESERVES IN THE YEAR 2021 WAS ACTUALLY MADE IN THAT PRESENTATION.
I MEAN, WE'RE RIGHT THERE TO HAVE THAT AS A POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION, TALKING ABOUT CREATING THAT RAINY DAY FUND I THINK WAS MENTIONED.
I KNOW THAT'S BEING TAKEN OUT OF UNUSED OR UNALLOCATED FUNDS.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE RIGHT THERE.
WE'RE AT THE CUSP AND WE GOT TO START THINKING ABOUT MAKING SURE WE PRESERVE TOMORROW AND SERVE THOSE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE THOSE SERVICES THAT WE EXPECT AS A CITY.
HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL REVENUE WAS BEING GENERATED BY A THREE PERCENT CAP COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT RATE SHERMAN OUR CURRENT RATE BY ROBACK RATE.
I WANT TO SAY AHEAD, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER MEMORIZED, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, PER I BELIEVE PER INDIVIDUAL, AVERAGE TAXPAYER, IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 50 DOLLARS FOR ROLLBACK VERSUS. CURRENT, IT WAS 29 DOLLARS VERSUS THREE PERCENT VERSUS CURRENT, AND THAT'S FOR THE YEAR AMOUNT. SO 29 DOLLARS FOR THE YEAR FOR THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER MAKES A DIFFERENCE
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OF THEIR CURRENT MILITARY VERSUS THREE PERCENT CAP MILITARY.THAT'S TWO DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS A MONTH.
YEAH, BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS OUR REVENUE SIDE.
I MEAN I MEAN, WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN TO SMALL UNITS AND MAKE IT I WOULD SMALL BUT BUT WHAT I HAVE HERE IS WHEN I WAS HOPING MAYBE YOU HAD OFF TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH I THINK I HEARD THE MAYOR KIND OF WHEN I ORIGINALLY ASKED IT, KIND OF SAY TWO AND THEN SO THAT MILLION DOLLARS THEN DID YOU GUYS CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE GOT FOUR POINT EIGHT IN THE RPA THAT WAS AND THEN WE HAD REALLY LARGE GROWTH AS FAR AS LIKE THIS.
DID YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THE FACT THIS IS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF GROWTH WE'VE HAD IN A SINGLE YEAR LAST YEAR? CORRECT. IT WAS ALL THIS IS ALL NEW REVENUE AS WELL.
LIKE LIKE CITI IS GETTING A LOT OF NEW REVENUE THERE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP UP THE SERVICES TO MEET THOSE NEEDS, AS WELL AS WE'RE PROVIDING MORE AND MORE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY.
WE DISCUSSED WITH ANGELICA OVER THE MONTHS AND WITH SUZANNE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
YES, THE GROWTH IS GOING TO KEEP GOING AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP.
AND HERE IN PALM BAY, WE HAVE THE MOST AVAILABLE LAND WE WANT.
BUT ISN'T ISN'T. AND WE RAN WE RAN CAMPAIGNS SOME TIME.
AND BUT YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE OTHER YOU WATCH ALL THE OTHER CAMPAIGNS.
DON'T WE ALL UNIVERSALLY AGREE THAT WE WANT NEW DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR ITSELF? I DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES ON MY EXISTING PEOPLE TO PAY BECAUSE THERE'S NEW PEOPLE SHOWING UP. I 100 PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS CONUNDRUM IF WE KEEP INCREASING THE TAXES ON THE CURRENT PEOPLE TO PAY FOR NEW PEOPLE? HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THIS? IT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING KEEPING MILLAGE RATE THE SAME. WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING GOING UP IN MILITARY.
WE'RE RECOMMENDING MAINTAINING THE CURRENT MILITARY, WHICH WOULD BE A NINE POINT SIX NINE POINT SIX FOUR PERCENT MS., 10 PERCENT INCREASE IN REVENUE ON TOP OF HAVING FOUR POINT EIGHT ON TOP OF HAVING THE BIGGEST.
WHEN YOU LOOK UNDERNEATH THAT ROLLBACK RATE, THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF NEW REVENUE COMING FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION FROM THE NEW THESE NEW FOLKS, A LOT OF NEW TO THEM.
YES. AND WE KNOW WE STILL HAVE TO DO A 10 PERCENT TAX INCREASE ON TOP ALL THAT.
WELL, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT AS A BOARD, WE WERE CONTINUE LOOKING AT AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT SEVERAL OF THOSE FUNDS YOU BROUGHT UP ARE OFTEN SPOKEN FOR.
ALREADY ARE. THEY'RE ALREADY ALLOCATED TO SPECIFIC THINGS THAT STAFF INFORMED US.
SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WE FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN IMAGE OF ONE HUNDRED FORTY NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS AFTER EVERYTHING'S DONE.
WE'VE REFERRED TO THOSE OTHER FUNDS.
WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS.
WE'RE FOCUSING ON WHAT ARE THE FUNDS THAT WE CAN USE FOR THE CITY AND NOT NECESSARILY A SPECIFIC ITEM OR SPECIFIC ITEMS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE CITY AND NOT BE TIED UP TO SAY THESE FUNDS HAVE TO GO IN THIS LOCATION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE'VE GROWN TO EXPECT AS A CITY.
YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE ABOUT SIX PLUS THE NEW I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNT IN THE NEW I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE'VE GOT AT LEAST SIX MILLION, FOUR POINT EIGHT, THE RPA, ANOTHER MILLION FROM IF WE WOULD JUST KEEP IT TO THREE PERCENT CAP, WHICH IS A TAX INCREASE STILL. AND WE WOULD HAVE NO MORE MONEY ALSO FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH I DON'T HAVE, THAT WE HAVE NO SIX OF A MILLION DOLLARS MORE, WHICH IS NOT PRESIDENT.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE STILL NEED ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS.
SO THE REASON WE'RE NOT A MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE POINT TO THAT.
ONE POINT TO. AND I'M SITTING HERE.
NO, I'M LOOKING AT MAINTAIN CURRENT THREE POINT FOUR THREE PERCENT CAP WAS TWO POINT SEVEN. THAT'S CLOSER TO 700000.
750000 I KNOW THE NUMBERS WE WERE PRESENTED AT OUR LAST MEETING, IT WAS ONE POINT TWO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THREE PERCENT CAP AND MAINTAINING THE CURRENT MILITARY IS THAT AND I WANT TO ASK STAFF IF THAT'S ACCURATE OR NOT.
OK. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PRESENTED.
WELL, I JUST I'M JUST ASKING THESE QUESTIONS, THESE QUESTIONS, AND WE GOT HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, LIKE ALL THIS, BECAUSE ALL THIS IS CONSIDERED THIS IS A HOW MANY TIMES HAS THE BOARD EVER RECOMMENDED BUSTING THE CAP IN THE LAST TWO YEARS? I BELIEVE THE LAST.
A MEMORY SERVES CORRECT? I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE PAST TWO YEARS.
I DIDN'T. AND THEN THIS YEAR WE'RE LIKE FLUSH AND THE MONEY BURNING A HOLE IN OUR POCKET BEFORE WE CAN EVEN SPEND IT.
ANYHOW, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MAKES YOU AT LEAST GOT THE NUMBERS RIGHT.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW. I THING I'LL BRING US TO BRING TO LIGHT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS AGAIN, EVEN WITH THOSE OTHER FUNDS COMING IN, THERE ARE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ASKS FOR FROM THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WERE PRESENTED THESE FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS. AGAIN, I SAY THESE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THREE YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS BOARD. SEVERAL OF THEM I'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE IT DEPARTMENT WAS SPECIAL, ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO A FEW OF US ON THE BOARD.
AND THEN WE HAD THAT SITUATION LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE THESE SITUATIONS HAVE BEEN ONGOING.
HAD WE BEEN ABLE AND HAD THOSE FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTABLE. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M WHEN I'M SITTING HERE SAYING AND I KNOW.
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YES, BECAUSE OF VALUES, APPRAISED VALUES FROM THE CITY COUNTY, PROPERTY PRICES ARE GOING TO CHANGE. AND THAT'S OUR INVESTMENTS AS HOMEOWNERS.SO, YES, THERE WILL BE SOME INCREASE.
IT'S NOT JUST THE EQUAL WASH ON TAX BILL.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, KEEPING THAT SAME MILITARY FOR US HOMEOWNERS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE INVESTMENTS, OWNING THOSE HOME AS AN INVESTMENT.
SO THEREFORE, I MEAN, WE DO BEAR A BIT OF THE BURDEN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TAX RATE, I REITERATE WE'RE TALKING TWENTY NINE DOLLARS DIFFERENCE ON THE YEAR.
THAT TAX BILL, WHEN WE AS CITIZENS LOOK AT THAT TAX BILL, THAT ENTIRE BILL DOESN'T GO TO THE CITY. AND I WHEN WE CAMPAIGNED, I WAS OUT THERE TALKING TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. I SAID, PLEASE PULL YOUR TAX BILL OUT.
AND WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 35 PERCENT OF THE BILL.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REAL DOLLARS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 29 DOLLARS A YEAR TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, THE PALM BAY, TO PUT ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS BACK IN THE CITY TO WHERE WE CAN SERVE THE CITY AT THE LEVEL THAT WE HAVE GROWN TO EXPECT OR WISH TO EXPECT.
YET WE KEEP I FEEL, IN THE BOARD THE SENTIMENT OF THE BOARD WHERE KEEP DIGGING DEEPER AND DEEPER AND I REFER BACK TO THAT PRESENTATION BY STAN TECH.
IF SOMEBODY HAS NOT WATCHED IT OR IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T, JUST IN A WHILE, I URGE YOU GUYS TO WATCH IT. IT'S VERY TELLING, VERY TELLING US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE COMING BACK TO DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION UPDATE.
THAT'LL BE VERY, VERY GREAT TO SEE AND VERY TO SEE HOW THAT CAN PAN OUT.
BUT I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR ANGELICAL.
AND THIS IS, BY THE WAY, I WAS CLEAN AND THROWING EVERYTHING OUT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK NOW TERESE AND THE LADIES IN THE OFFICE PRICE, ALL THAT HAD FILLED UP THE RECYCLING BIN LAST NIGHT BECAUSE I HAD ACTUALLY, AFTER 89, ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN A BUNCH OF STUFF I WAS DOING AT HOME.
BUT I'M GLAD I DIDN'T THROW THIS ONE AWAY.
THIS IS I KNOW THIS WAS PRELIMINARY, SO LET'S SEE, ANGELICA.
THANK YOU, MR. POOR ANGELICA COLLINS, FISCAL MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING, I JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN BAILEY. IT'S OUR LAST LAST TIME TOGETHER DURING THE BUDGET.
SO I THOUGHT I HAD YOU FOR ONE MOMENT, ONE MORE YEAR NEXT YEAR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
I KNOW YOU ALWAYS WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS.
SO, YEAH. SO DEFINITELY SOME NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE PREVIOUS BUDGET WORKSHOP BECAUSE THE FINAL EVALUATIONS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE HAVE COME IN.
SO AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP RATE, WHICH IS SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE BUILDING THE BUDGET ON, DESPITE THE PROPOSED TENTATIVE MILITARY THAT YOU SEE TONIGHT, THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE TAKING IN IS 37 MILLION, NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN.
IF WE WERE TO GO TO THE CURRENT MILITARY, WHICH IS MAINTAINING THE SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT, WE WILL BE TAKING IN THIRTY NINE MILLION ONE HUNDRED TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY ONE. SO THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE.
SO IT'S ABOUT ONE POINT ONE EIGHT MILLION.
IF WE WERE TO GO TO ROLLBACK RATE FROM THAT THREE PERCENT CAP, WHICH IS MOVING DOWN TO SEVEN POINT FOUR ONE FOUR TWO, WE WOULD BE GENERATING THIRTY SIX MILLION, NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE, WHICH MEANS THAT FROM THE CURRENT BASE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT I'M BUILDING ON THAT THREE PERCENT CAP, WE WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE THAT AD VALOREM REVENUE BY NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE. AND I I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND PUTTING ON THE RECORD, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND READ AND REVISIT THIS ANOTHER TIME, BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS COUNCILMAN BAILEY ASK IRAN FOR, YOU KNOW, IF HE HAD A SOLUTION.
I WANTED TO ASK HIM, DID HE HAVE A SOLUTION REGARDING THIS CONUNDRUM WE'RE IN AS A CITY, SIR. OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
WELL, IT'S SIMPLE. YOU CONTROL YOUR SPENDING, OK? THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND WE MIGHT EXPECT AS A LEVEL OF SERVICE, BUT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH IT COST.
RIGHT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE ONLY WAY WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS, WHENEVER WE GET A WINDFALL OF MONEY, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO SPEND.
THE ONLY WAY WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET OUT IS BY CONTROLLING SPENDING.
AND DOES THAT MEAN WE WE MAKE SOME SACRIFICES? YES. AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
YOU RAN DEPUTY MAYOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
NO, MY MY ONE OF MY CONCERNS WITH PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS WAS THAT EVERY TIME THEY PRESENTED SOMETHING, IT WAS AS THOUGH IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUT ON THIS REALLY IMPORTANT THING.
AND THEY IGNORE ALL THE LITTLE THINGS THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT AND DIVISION MANAGER KNOWS WHERE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PLACES WHERE WE CAN AFFORD TO ACTUALLY CUT.
WE IGNORE ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IN THE BASE BUDGET AND THEN WE THROW OUT THE EMERGENCY
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THINGS IN ORDER TO GET THE TAX INCREASE.WE REALLY MEAN WHAT IT REALLY TAKES IS IN THE ANSWER REALLY IS FOR COUNCIL TO BE RESOLUTE AND SAY WE WANT TO BE AT THE ROLL BACK OR WE WANT TO BE AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
BUT THE BEST BUDGET TO GET TOGETHER GOES IN THAT THERE'S ALWAYS I DON'T CARE, I CAN GIVE YOU ANOTHER FIVE MILLION DOLLARS AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE ITEMS ON STAFF REQUESTS THAT WILL BE HERE FOR THREE YEARS FROM NOW THAT THAT ALONE DOES NOT.
I MEAN, THAT'S NORMAL. THAT IS IT'S ALWAYS A PROGRESS.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S ABNORMAL.
NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NORMAL FOR PALM BAY AS THOUGH WE'RE ABNORMAL FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. IT'S NOT JUST US.
IT'S JUST YOU ALWAYS HAVE MORE WANTS THAN WHAT WE CAN PAY FOR.
BUT UNTIL THERE IS A RESOLUTE COUNCIL WHO WHO TELLS THE CITY MANAGER, THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO AND SHOW US THE BEST.
AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY WE SAID, REMEMBER, IF YOU GO BACK, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I DID ONCE SAY IT WAS IN TWENTY SIXTEEN OR LET'S SAY SIXTEEN BUDGET NEXT YEAR, JUST SAW MY STUFF THE OTHER DAY, PROBABLY HAVE SAVED SOMEWHERE.
BUT ONE OF MY REQUEST WAS, OK, YOU WANT TO CALL ME, YOU WANT ME, YOU WANT TO ASK ME TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY FROM THE PEOPLE.
BEFORE YOU DO THAT, GIVE ME A LIST OF LIKE THE TOP TEN THINGS THAT COULD BE CUT IF WE HAD TO. BUT THEY DON'T NEED IT.
BUT I DON'T WANT THE THINGS THEY'RE LIKE OBVIOUSLY LIKE LIFE SAVING THINGS.
I WANT THE THINGS THAT ARE LIKE WE CAN LIVE WITHOUT THEIR NICETIES.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S NEVER REALLY CAME FORWARD.
NOW, THAT WAS A DIFFERENT MINISTRATION.
I'M NOT SAYING WE DIDN'T GIVE THAT NOW TO THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO KNOCK THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR EVEN EVEN OUR CITY MANAGER.
BUT EVEN BACK THEN, I WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE DON'T ALWAYS CLAIM THERE'S EMERGENCY.
I JUST CAN'T SEE HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY CLAIM THIS IS EMERGENCY.
THIS YEAR, WHEN WE HAD THE BEST GROWTH, WE HAD NEW NEW NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AND IN THE LAST LEAST TEN YEARS, WE WE'VE GOT A WINDFALL OF ALMOST FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS STILL TAXPAYER DOLLARS, BY THE WAY.
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO MEAN SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO MEAN REALLY IT'S NOT MEAN.
OK, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO COMPLICATED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A NEW THEORY OUT THERE THAT WE'RE LIVING IN TODAY.
IT WAS A THEORY, BUT TODAY IT'S REAL AND PUMPING ALL THIS MONEY IN THERE AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE CONSEQUENCES. AS FAR AS TAX RATES, INTEREST RATES, NO, REALLY, FISCAL POLICY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE USED OR WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT NO, UNTIL WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RESOLUTE AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONTROL THAT SPENDING.
NOW, I THINK, LIKE I SAID, I CAN GIVE YOU ANOTHER FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
I'M SURE STAFF CAN FIND A WAY TO SPEND ANOTHER FIVE MILLION DOLLARS AND STILL HAVE THINGS ON THE LIST. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
SO REALLY, WHAT TAKES US TO SAY IS LIKE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
WE'VE GOT WE GOT THIS WINDFALL HERE.
WE GOT A WINDFALL FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
JUST GOING THROUGH THE THREE PERCENT, THREE PERCENT CAP, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY LIBERAL CAP, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY, IT WAS ONE POINT SEVEN, EIGHT, I BELIEVE, FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE IN CPI BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INFLATION.
WAS DEFLATION DRIVEN BY GOVERNMENT SPENDING? YEAH, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN REALLY ARGUE THAT LOT OF IT IS GOVERNMENT SPENDING TODAY, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY.
BUT ANYHOW, THAT'S TO ME, THAT'S THE ANSWERS FOR US TO BE RESOLUTE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THEN WE LIVE WITH THAT.
NOW, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS NOT MAKING COMMITMENTS TO THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN REVIEWED YET.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON SPENDING THIS MONEY, X, Y AND Z, MAYBE AN EVEN MORE FLEXIBLE WAY, AGAIN, I WOULD RATHER DO THAT THAN SPEND IT FOUR POINT EIGHT ON A NEW BUILDING OR SOMETHING.
THAT NATURE USING THAT RIGHT THERE FOR THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN A LOT LESS THINGS LIKE BODY CAMS. GREAT.
USING ALL POLICE VEHICLES, GREAT, I MEAN, THINGS THAT WE NEED LONG KNOW WITHIN REASON, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A NEW CAR EVERY OTHER YEAR, BUT UNTIL WE GET TO A MINIMUM STANDARD OF LEVEL AS FAR AS REPLACING THESE TYPES OF THINGS, I DON'T MIND SPENDING IT THERE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE TAXES WHILE ALSO HAVING IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY I MEAN, ON ITS SURFACE, YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND IT.
I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE BIGGEST REVENUE RAINFALL WINDFALL ACCOUNT COUNT. WE'VE NEVER HAD A RECOMMENDATION TO BUST A CAP THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT IT JUST THE TIMING SEEMS OFF TO ME.
YEAH, YOU WOKE ME UP A LITTLE BIT.
THANK YOU. SO TELL DEPUTY MAYOR NELSON, ARE YOU SATISFIED? YES. MAYORS. YEAH.
YES. AND BECAUSE MY ONLY THING IS THAT THAT'S THAT'S LOGICAL.
THAT'S LOGICAL. BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP LIKE THAT.
THAT RECOMMENDATION MAINTENANCE SAYING GIVEN GIVE US TEN ITEMS THAT WE CAN LIVE WITHOUT OR YOU THINK YOU WOULD CUT.
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I FEEL THAT'S LOGICAL. SO I WISH THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU DID BEFORE. WELL, IT STILL CAN BE DONE.
IT'S SOMETHING WHERE AND AND I THINK I MIGHT HAVE HAD A CHANCE, OPPORTUNE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT SUZANNE ABOUT AND CERTAINLY DID WITH OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE SHOW ME WHAT YOU CUT.
WHAT DID YOU CUT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME CONTRACTS.
I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG ORGANIZATION.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE HUNDREDS OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, WELL OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
AND SO ANYHOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THESE CONTRACTS AND SOMETIMES THEY GO OFF, SHOW ME WHERE THE MONEY, SHOW ME WHERE YOU CUT SPENDING BEFORE YOU ASK ME TO
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RAISE THE TAXES. AND THAT'S WHERE I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN THAT.IT'S NEVER BEEN IT'S NOT THE NORM UNTIL COUNCIL REALLY DEMANDS IT.
AND I THINK IT WAS 16 COUNCILS DID BACK ME UP AT THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP.
BUT THEN BY THE TIME IT ROLLED AROUND, THE CITY MANAGER DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IN COUNCILMAN.
AND THEN I BROUGHT UP I MEAN, COUNCIL DIDN'T CARE.
SO AS LONG AS YOU GOT THE VOTES, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS.
IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD TO BE RESOLUTE AND ASK FOR THOSE TYPE OF DETAILS.
AND THERE MIGHT BE OTHER IDEAS, TOO.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I TRIED THAT YEAR BECAUSE I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET SOME SANITY? IS THAT AT LEAST OUT? MY PERSPECTIVE, PERSPECTIVE OF IT IS IN.
I'M JUST SAYING WE HAD A NEW COUNCIL SINCE THEN.
SO SOMETHING IDEA LIKE THAT, THAT'S THAT'S VERY LOGICAL.
YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.
BUT WE KNOW NOW AND IN FACT, LAST YEAR BECAUSE I HAD SPOKEN WITH ANGELICA, THEY DID IT BASED OFF A ZERO BASED BUDGETING ON WHICH THAT THAT'S HOW THEY KIND OF LOOKED TO TRY TO IN AND OUT AS MUCH AS THEY TRY TO TRIM OFF THE FAT AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.
THAT WAS THE SOLUTION THEY HAD LAST YEAR ON WHICH I WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD SOLUTION.
BUT THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS JUST AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, EMOTION.
IT'S NOT EMOTION TO LOCK IN THE CAB IS JUST EMOTION TO AUTHORIZE, YOU KNOW, THE ADVERTISING. AND I'VE ALREADY SAID IT PUBLICLY THAT I WANT TO STAY WITHIN THE THREE PERCENT CAP. I SAID, I'M NOT LOOKING TO GO ABOVE.
I'VE SAID IT BEFORE FOR THOSE WHO'VE SEEN COUNCIL MEETINGS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN A PLACE TO DO SO. BUT THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE BECAUSE ONCE YOU ADVERTISE IT, YOU CAN GO DOWN, BUT YOU CAN NEVER GO UP IF SOMETHING HAPPENS.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, BECAUSE YOU AND I WERE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE THREE PERCENT ON THAT.
AND THAT BEING SAID, IF WE'RE WE'RE BUDGETING FOR THE THREE PERCENT AND THAT'S THE MOVEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING IN, WE DON'T NEED TO SET IT UP AT THE SEVEN POINT EIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOOD AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
WHAT ARE THE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO WEIGH IN BEFORE? LIKE I'M IN FOURTH. I LIKE I THINK THE THREE PERCENT CUT CAP IS LUDICROUS.
LIKE, WE GET WE NEED TO GET RID OF IT, ACTUALLY, BUT THE VOTERS VOTED FOR IT, SO WE GOT TO LIVE WITH IT. I THINK A HANDICAPPED.
A BUDGET PROCESS, BECAUSE SOME YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE, IN SOME YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOWER IT.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT FOR WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY.
A LITTLE BIT OF JEFF BAILEY IS TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WHEN YOU HANDICAP YOURSELF AND YOU PUT HANDCUFFS BEHIND YOUR BACK.
AND YOU HAVE NO WIGGLE ROOM IF YOU NEED A FIRE TRUCK OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER ITEMS, YOU HAVE TO BE TAXED. WE HAVE TO BE TAXPAYERS DO IT WITH OUR MONEY.
AND I THINK THE THREE PERCENT CAP HANDICAP US.
IN MY CAREER, I SAVED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD. YOU MS. MILLION IN MY OFFICE, HE WAS PAID THESEA, JOE.
YOU MS. MILLION TO HOUSE PRISONERS.
IT WAS CRAZY. WELL, MONTHS I WAS ABLE TO REDUCE THAT I.
BUDGET MR. BAILEY SAID I WAS A HANDICAP.
COULD I SPEND MORE? YES. WHETHER IT'S BEEN MORE OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY.
NO, BUT I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HAVE NO RESTRICTION.
HANDICAP ME HOW MUCH I COULD SPEND.
BUT I'M SAYING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT KEEPS SPENDING MONEY, KEEP PRINTING MONEY, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP I'VE BEEN UP THERE TO KEEP DOING IT AS CRAZY.
IT'S LITERALLY CRAZY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY TO PRINT MONEY.
I DON'T I DON'T LIKE RAISING TAXES, BUT WE IN THE CITY THAT IS GROWING, WE'RE GROWING AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN A CATCH 22 WHEN, OK, WE WE WE SET OUR BUDGET AT THREE PERCENT, BUT NOW WE IN TROUBLE.
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. AND WE MR. PART YOU YOU DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTATION.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTION.
YOU TOOK IT ALL THE WAY. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DIGGING.
AND WHEN WE CAME TO THIS ITEM, I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE MILITARY, WE SHOULD HAVE BUDGET AT THE CURRENT MILITARY.
BUT. WHEN ALONG THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
AND WE GOT TO GO AT THE CURRENT MILITARY JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.
THIS IS CRAZY. ROBACK GREAT DOESN'T WORK FOR US.
COUNCILMAN BAILEY IS RIGHT, WE KEEP GROWING, THE SERVICE, KEEP GROWING, AND THAT'S GOING
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TO KEEP HAPPENING. I THINK THE GROWTH IS.BASSENDEAN GOING FASTER THAN THE MONEY WE COULD GET IN MAINTAINING.
I'M FOR THIS ITEM, I REALLY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT I WANT TO REALLY VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE GOT AND I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUDGET.
AND COME HERE AS AS THE ITEM PRESENTED, I WOULD SUPPORT IT AS WELL, I UNDERSTAND.
TOM, WHO WE ALL WOULD AGREE, TOM.
COUNCILMAN BAILEY MADE IT CLEAR THERE WERE A LOT OF NUMBERS, PLUS ALL THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED.
I'M OKAY WITH I THINK IT'S IT'S A GOOD.
NOT THAT I'M A BIG FAN OF THE THREE PERCENT COMP, BUT AT THIS TIME FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE, I THINK WE SHOULD. STAY THERE AND BUILD THAT.
JUST IN CASE WE HAVE TO GO HIGHER, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD BASE AND I SUPPORTED BEFORE I SAW YOU AGAIN TONIGHT. THANK YOU, M.
WHY NOT JUST SET IT AT SEVEN POINT? THE THREE PERCENT CUT SOME SOME POINT FIVE FIVE NINE.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT YOU AND I DISCUSSED THE ROLLBACK RATE OF SEVEN FOUR AND IT'S ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS LESS THAN WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY BUDGETED FOR.
SO YOU AND I HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
AND MY QUESTION IS, WHY NOT JUST SET IT AT THE SAME POINT, FIVE FIVE NINE, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR? WHY SET IT UP AT ANYTHING HIGHER? SO GREAT QUESTION.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE BASE BUDGET, AS WE'RE PROPOSING IT, IS BUILT ON THE SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE, WHICH IS THE THREE PERCENT CAP REASON FOR THE SLIGHTLY HIGHER RATE WHEN YOU'RE SETTING YOUR MAXIMUM OPERATING MILLAGE.
SO YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY GIVING YOURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET TO THE END ON THE BUDGET.
IF THINGS CHANGE AND COUNCIL DECIDES THEY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENT DECISION, YOU HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. SO YOU HAVEN'T COMPLETELY LOCKED YOURSELF IN.
IT'S JUST REALLY A IT'S BEEN A FAIRLY TYPICAL POLICY PRACTICE IN PAST.
COUNCILS HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE THAT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE WOULD BE EXCEEDING THE THREE PERCENT CAP AND ISN'T THAT ILLEGAL? WELL, YOU'RE NOT IF YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE RATE TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE SCENARIO THAT YOU'RE GIVING ME.
IF YOU SET IT HIGHER THAN THE SEVEN POINT FIVE FIVE NINE.
YOU'RE GOING TO EXCEED THE THREE PERCENT GET OR CAP, RIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO ISD, SO WHY NOT SET IT AT THE SEVEN POINT FIVE FIVE NINE? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO EXCEED THAT BECAUSE WE CAN EXCEED.
WHY NOT SET IT AT THAT? THAT'S A COUNCIL POLICY DECISION, BUT TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE NOT ADOPTING THE MILITARY WITH THIS VOTE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE SAYING THE MAXIMUM WE MIGHT CONSIDER GOING TO IS IN THIS CASE, WILL THE SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT, WHICH YOU DON'T OFFICIALLY ADOPT IT AND HAVE LIKE TO GET TO THE THREE PERCENT TO BREAK THE CAP, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF VOTING.
RIGHT. YOU DON'T ACTUALLY DO THAT UNTIL YOUR MEETING'S IN SEPTEMBER.
I KNOW, AND I GET THAT MY CONCERN IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT SETTING IT TODAY, WE WE GO BEYOND THAT IN SEPTEMBER WHEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ISD, WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXCEED IT. AND THEN AT THE LAST THE LAST SECOND, WE SAY, OK, WE HAVE TO EXCEED THAT.
THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING THE ISSUE WITH RIGHT AFTER APPOINTING SOMEBODY.
THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING THE ISSUE WITH THEM.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE ALL SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXCEED THAT CAP.
RIGHT, THEN WE SHOULD SET IT UP THAT CAP, SO THAT, HEY, WE'RE NOT EXCEEDING IT, AND THAT'S WHAT MY THOUGHT PROCESS, WHY WE HAVE THAT LEEWAY, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, OK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXCEED THE CAP UNTIL WE DECIDE IN SEPTEMBER, THEN WE'LL DEFINITELY NOT EXCEED THE CAP.
AND THAT THAT GIVES ME A CAUSE TO PAUSE.
YEAH. AND AND IF I CAN, I THOUGHT MAYBE A QUESTION YOU WERE GETTING AT AND I WAS GOING TO ASK MS. SMITH TO BE CLEAR, THE ORDINANCE REGULATION FOR THE SUPER MAJORITY ONLY APPLIES FOR THE
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ACTUAL MILITARY ADOPTION.IT WOULD NOT APPLY FOR THE TENTATIVE TONIGHT.
CORRECT. RIGHT, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TONIGHT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, IS THERE TO BE A THREE TWO VOTE SENATE WHERE IT'S ABOVE THE THREE PERCENT CAP, I'M GOING TO LEAVE AND NOW TWO WEEKS AND THEN A PERSON IS GOING TO BE APPOINTED AND THE COUNCIL COULD STILL CHANGE THEIR MIND AT THAT POINT AND GO FOR ONE, POTENTIALLY ASSUMING THE MAYOR KNOWS THE MAYOR SAYING MAKE IT VERY CLEAR HE'S WILLING TO CAP IT AT THREE PERCENT TONIGHT.
SO IT COULD GO ESSENTIALLY AT THAT POINT FOUR TO ONE AND BUST A CAP.
AND THAT WOULD ALL BE PERFECTLY LEGAL, RIGHT? THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OR A CRITICAL NEED, I MEAN.
BUT LET'S BE FAIR, THAT'S NOT ALLOW YOU TO ARBITRARILY JUST DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE THREE PERCENT. YEAH, BUT BUT LET'S BE HONEST, PREVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN PRETTY LIBERAL HOW WE INTERPRET WHAT WE CALL A CRITICAL NEED AND WHAT WE EVERYTHING BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THAT LIST THAT THE CHAIRMAN JUST GAVE OUT OF WHAT MR., SHERMAN AND STAFF WOULD GIVE OUT, BECAUSE MOST OF IT LIVE WOULD BE CONSIDERED CRITICAL.
AND SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT COULD HAPPEN AS LONG AS THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SAYS THERE'S A CRITICAL NEED EMERGENCY THAT WOULD THAT THAT IS A FEASIBLE SITUATION.
CORRECT. THERE IS SOMETHING IT IS LIKE, CAN'T GO WITH YOUR SCENARIO BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NOT LEGITIMATE.
I'M NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND PLAY WITH WORDS.
BUT IF THERE'S A LEGITIMATE EMERGENCY OR CRITICAL NEED, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING, IT'S LIKE THERE COMES A HURRICANE AND IT CREATES MASSIVE DAMAGES.
AND, YES, WE'RE GOING TO GET FUNDING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FUNDING A LOT LATER.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PRETTY OK.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WHERE NOTHING HAS CHANGED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
AND WE SAY, HEY, IS EMERGENCY CRITICAL NEED BECAUSE WE GOT A NEW PERSONNEL? I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENING BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ADOPT. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR CRITICAL NEED? BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THE LIST, IT'S ON THE LIST NOW.
SO THAT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY OR CRITICAL NEED A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW.
WELL, SO SO YOU'RE CONFIRMING THAT THE DOOR'S STILL OPEN, WHICH WE ALL UNDERSTAND, TO BUST A CAP. AND THEN SECOND THING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT YOU'RE RECOGNIZING INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.
AND BASED ON OUR DECISION TONIGHT, YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE GATEKEEPER SAYS, WELL, WHAT'S CHANGED? THIS WAS ALREADY ON THE LIST BEFORE.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BUDGETS, WHICH IS GOING TO, AGAIN, SHORT OF A TRUE NATURAL DISASTER, NOT BUST THE CAP.
YEAH, I KNOW. I'M BEING OPEN TO MORE SPECIFIC FOR YOU, PRESIDENT SMITH, TO ANSWER.
YES, BUT. THE MAIN THING IS THAT IT LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN TO BUST A CAP AFTER A NEW APPOINTEES POINT IN MY SEAT, CORRECT? YEAH. LONG AS THE CHARTER PROVISIONS ARE MET, YES, THERE IS, THERE'S A LOT OF.
WE'RE IMPLYING A LOT OF THINGS THIS AND NOT THE STAFF WILL NOT JUST BRING SOMETHING RANDOMLY, I'M SORRY, I'LL TAKE A DRINK AFTER, BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE SAID THE STAFF NOT JUST RANDOMLY BRING SOMETHING AND PAINT IT AS AN EMERGENCY.
YES, BUT AND THEN TO TRY TO PUT IT ON, YOU KNOW, THE APPOINTEE'S COUNCILMAN BAILEY, YOU'RE LEAVING AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN'T TRY TO SHIFT THE BLAME OR ANYTHING.
BUT YOU'RE LEAVING. YOU HAVE YOUR REASONS.
BUT DON'T TRY TO SHIFT THE BLAME TO THE APPOINTEE OR TO STAFF.
ALL RIGHT? THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB.
THEY'RE GOING TO WORK TO TRY TO STAY WITHIN THE CAP IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE GAVE THEM.
BUT THINGS HAPPEN. SO LET'S BE REALISTIC AND JUST BE OPEN TO THAT AND GO FORWARD.
I ALREADY SAID I ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR I'M GOING TO STAY WITHIN THE CAP.
BUT IF IT IS A HURRICANE OR IF I'M JUST BEING HONEST, BECAUSE WE SEE THE NEWS, IF THEY TRY TO SAY THE DELTA VARIANT IS GOING TO TRY TO SHUT US DOWN OR SOMETHING AND THEY CAUSE SOME HAVOC WITHIN OUR CITY FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT US.
I ALREADY SAID I'M WITHIN THE THREE PERCENT CAP, BUT TO KIND OF TRY TO PAINT THESE SCENARIOS THAT WE WILL TRY TO JUST.
YOU KNOW, USE ANY TYPE OF QUOTE UNQUOTE, EMERGENCY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE CITY.
MY MY QUESTIONS WERE MORE ON BASED ON, YOU KNOW WHY.
NO, I'M JUST BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE OPENED UP THIS PANDORA'S BOX, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SHARE MY QUESTIONS WERE MORE A WE'RE ALREADY SQUARED AWAY FOR THE SEVEN FIVE FIVE NINE.
AND I THINK IT WAS ALSO COUNCILMAN FELIX THAT SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO WORK WITHIN THAT THREE PERCENT. SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT WE WOULDN'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I WANT TO PUT MY AGREEMENT WITH YOUR COMMENT.
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THERE'S GOT TO BE A LEVEL OF THAT WE TRUST THAT'S NOT GOING TO OVERREACT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN THEMSELVES TO DO THINGS THAT WAY.COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YEAH, I KNOW YOU SAID JOHNSON AND FELIX GOING TO WORK WITHIN THAT THREE PERCENT CAP.
I'M GOING TO WORK IN AND SAYS YOU HAVE TO I JUST DISAGREE WITH IT.
OK, I'M GOING TO STICK TO THE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO VOTE ON IT.
NO, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO BUST THE CAP BUT WE DON'T KNOW A HURRICANE IS COMING.
I MEAN, WE HAD A SCARE LAST WEEK.
WE HAD A SCARE LAST WEEK AND EVERYTHING TURNED BAD.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BAD FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA, SO.
I DON'T WANT TO BUST THE CAP COUNCILMAN BAILEY, I WANT TO STAY WITHIN OUR BUDGET RANGE, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE CAP.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO BUST IT.
I WISH WE WOULD STUCK WITH THE CURRENT MILITARY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO.
NOT GO ABOVE, BUT IT HAS MADE.
WE WANT TO DO THE CAP, I'M GOING TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
I'M NOT GOING TO. BUT IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY AND THE CITY NEEDS MONEY AND NOW I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, I WILL BUST THE CAP.
BUT RIGHT NOW I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT OVER MEDINA, COUNCILMAN, BAILEY.
I AGREE WITH YOU. IT CAN MAKE UP ANY ANY EXCUSE.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO FOR THAT MEAN.
I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY. THE HURRICANE I MEAN GOING TO SEVEN POINT EIGHT WASN'T A CAP, BUT IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, HE'S LIKE ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION AROUND THERE IN ADDITION.
TRUST ME, A HURRICANE AIN'T GOING TO CAUSE JUST ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS, DAMAGES WILL REALLY BE HURTING, BUT I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS POINT ANY MORE, ALL THAN KNOWING THERE'S MANY MEMBERS ON COUNCIL HERE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE SEVEN POINT FIVE FIVE NINE.
AND THAT'S THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE A FISCAL YEAR. TWENTY TWENTY TWO PROPOSED OPERATING MILLAGE RATE UP TO UP TO SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE A FISCAL YEAR.
TWENTY TWO PROPOSE BODETT DEBT MILLAGE RATE OF ONE POINT THREE, FOUR TO FOUR AND TO SCHEDULE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH.
AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE AT SIX P.M..
SECOND, HE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? REAL QUICK, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO KNOW I KNOW IT'S LATE AND MAYBE I HAVE TO REVIEW MY COMMENTS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE DEPUTY MAYOR KIND OF MISREPRESENTED WHAT I WAS SAYING.
AND WHAT I'M DOING IS GETTING TO THE YES, IT'S TO THE EXTREME SCENARIO, BUT IT'S MAKING CLEAR WHERE WE COULD WHERE THIS COULD GO.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO OR I THINK IT'S LIKELY.
WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT IF WE ADVERTISE AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP, TAKES AWAY ANY TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HAVING A SUPERMAJORITY ANYMORE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT ANYMORE. AND IT'S SET.
THAT'S WHY WE HAD A STATE STABILIZATION FUND.
WHY WOULD WE HAVE A STABILIZATION FUND? AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO TAX INCREASES ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST HOLD THAT DOOR OPEN. THAT BECOMES THE ISSUE.
I KNOW THIS IS HISTORICALLY HOW THE COUNCIL'S DONE IT, EVEN BEFORE MY TIME FOR THE MOST FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK THERE'S BEEN MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE WHERE THEY HAVEN'T HISTORICALLY, BUT NO SUPPORT OF KEEPING THAT THERE.
BUT THIS YEAR, I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I GUESS WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THE REVENUES THAT WE HAVE COMING IN, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO KIND OF SWALLOW THIS ONE. AND IT CERTAINLY WOULD TAKE AWAY ANY ANY POSSIBLE APPEARANCE OF TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SNEAK THE BUST, THE CAP BY JUST GOING AND SET IT HERE TONIGHT AT THE CAP AND YOU'RE DONE. YOU TAKE AWAY THE ARGUMENT OFF THE TABLE COMPLETELY.
AND I KNOW I DO KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO STAYED HERE TONIGHT. AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP 10 LATEST MEETINGS I'VE HAD, WHICH JUST SHOWS HOW THE POWER OF THAT, CONSIDERING HOW SMALL THE REST AGENDA WAS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BAILEY, SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.
I'M CALLING THE VOTE AND I WANT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THAT THREE PERCENT CAP AND THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY STATEMENT.
SO I WON'T I DON'T WANT TO GO ANYWHERE NEAR THE SEVEN POINT EIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE NAME PASSES, THREE TO TWO.
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UH. ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.COUNCILMAN BAILEY A COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX.
YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE FLORIDA BLACK CAUCUS OF LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS BE HOSTING A BREAKFAST MEETING DURING THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE WILL BE HELD ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 13TH.
AND THE REGISTRATION IS AN ADDITIONAL COST OF 50 DOLLARS TO ATTEND.
AND ANYBODY INTERESTED JUST NEEDS TO ANNOUNCE IT TONIGHT.
SOPHIA PATTERSON, FOLLOWED BY MR. BILL BENTON. SO IT'S 50 DOLLARS, MAN, BREAKFAST.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN, SOPHIA PATTERSON DURING COMMUNITY.
THE REASON I STAYED SO LONG AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SHOWED UP IS I ACTUALLY LIVED IN TALLAHASSEE. I CAME BACK DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID IN MY ELDERLY PARENTS.
HERE'S THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.
I THINK IT'S A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, AND I DON'T THINK THE TAXPAYERS OF PALM BAY SHOULD HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN PAYING FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GO TO SUCH AN EVENT.
I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE AT THEIR EXPENSE AND NOT THE PUBLIC'S.
AND I HAVE A VERY CONCERNED OPINION ON THIS.
AND I WANTED THAT FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IS NONPARTY AFFILIATED, AND I DO NOT WANT OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO BE IN A PART OF THAT MOTION THAT CONTINUES TO ADVOCATE POLICIES THAT ARE NOT IN THE INTEREST OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS. AND SPEAKING TO SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER BY COUNCIL MEMBER FOSTER, I AM AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
I CAME HERE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER FELIX IMMIGRANT PARENTS.
I'M VERY VERSED IN THE CONSTITUTION AND RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES, AND I THINK HEALING TAKES PLACE WHEN FORGIVENESS TAKES PLACE.
AND WHEN YOU PUT OUT AN AGENDA THAT KEEPS ON GOING BACK INTO THE PAST WITHOUT ADDRESSING THINGS THAT ARE NOW IN THE PRESENT, IT'S VERY DISTURBING TO ME.
SO I WANTED IT ON THE RECORD TONIGHT THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY PARTICIPATION THAT INCLUDES PALM BAY TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO ALMOST, WHAT, ONE 30 IN THE MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PATTERSON. SORRY.
MAYBE JUST DO YOU HAVE SOME BECAUSE I'M PART OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.
I NEVER FOUND IT TO BE BIPARTISAN.
DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE EVEN IF IT'S IN THE FUTURE? WE TALK AFTER THAT LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.
I DO. AND I GOTTA TO GET HOME TO MY KIDS.
I'VE BEEN UP SINCE SEVEN THIRTY YESTERDAY.
I WILL EMAIL YOU AND I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED.
OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MR. BILLION. WOOLVERTON FIVE EIGHTY SIX OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I'VE ADDRESSED THE FLORIDA BLACK CAUCUS BEFORE, AND I'M JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE WHAT BILL BATTENS IMPACT IS.
ONE PERSON'S PERCEPTION IS THAT PERSON'S REALITY.
WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING TO ME, BEING TRUE OR NOT TRUE, IS WHAT I SEE AND WHAT I DEAL WITH. ITEM NUMBER TWO, PEOPLE ONLY REMEMBER THE IMPACT.
NOT THE INTENT MIGHT HAVE THE BEST INTENTIONS ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT THE PERCEPTION OF THAT IMPACT CAN BE SOMETHING ELSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER. I'LL BE ATTENDING.
COUNCIL MEMBER FELIX, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WILL BE ATTENDING AS WELL, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WILL BE PAYING OUT OF POCKET PERSONALLY. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
WHEN I ASKED THE CLERK AT 50 DOLLARS IS FOR EACH COUNCILMAN WHO ATTENDS OR AS THE TOTAL AS PER PERSON. THAT'S WHAT A BREAKFAST.
I WILL BE ATTENDING AND I'LL PAY OUT OF MY POCKET.
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I WILL NOT BE ATTENDING THE BREAKFAST.WE NEED TO GIVE YOU A CAR OR NO.
I'M NOT SURE I'LL GIVE YOU MY DEBIT CARD.
NO. SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE HANDLE TO MS. ROSE-MARIE OR. OR SUZANNE OR.
I WILL CHECK WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE ASSOCIATION TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD HANDLE THAT. OK.
ALL RIGHT THEN. I'M FINE WITH THAT.
OK, WE'RE ON ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS.
AND I HAVE ONE THING FOR COUNCIL, A REQUEST TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP, ACTUALLY, THE DATE
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR OCTOBER 19TH.THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISIONING WORKSHOP.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH A SERIES OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THE VISION 2040.
WE'VE HAD ONE WORKSHOP JUNE TWENTY NINTH.
IT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER KIND OF PUBLIC EVENTS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP ON AUGUST 24TH, OR WE GET TO THE FINAL ONE, WHICH IS SCHEDULED IN NOVEMBER, ON NOVEMBER THE 8TH.
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION BEFORE COUNCIL TELL YOU ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GATHERED, ALL THE DATA, ALL THE INFORMATION FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS AND PARTICIPANTS AND SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED TO THAT FINAL STEP.
SO, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DATE OF OCTOBER 19TH AS THE POTENTIAL WORKSHOP DATE WAS OK WITH LOOKING AT THAT, WE WILL PROCEED WITH SCHEDULE THAT A THURSDAY MEMBER WAS THE I THOUGHT. RIGHT, IT'S A TUESDAY.
TUESDAY EVENING IN OCTOBER, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GOOD. IT'S SO FAR OUT.
I JUST NEED NOT TO PLAN ANYTHING, SO I'M GOOD.
IT WAS THAT OCTOBER 19TH OR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19TH.
SO IS IT IS IT YOUR BIRTHDAY? WELL, WE'LL CELEBRATE IN THE WORK THREE DAYS PRIOR, SO I'M OK WITH THAT.
SOMEONE FOSTER. OK, SO YOU HAVE CONSENSUS HERE, MA'AM.
MATT. ADAM SMITH, ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? CARD'S DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? SO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS THIS GREAT CITY.
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.