Aug 19, 2021 Council Meetings - Regular

[CALL TO ORDER]

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I LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 20, 21, DASH 21 TO ORDER OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY CHRIS ADAMS AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY.

IT'S BRUSSTAR OVER HERE, HEAR THE FIRST.

WHAT'S YOUR NAME? JEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AFTER THE INVOCATION RAW.

ALL RIGHT, COME ON UP, CHRIS ADAMS. LET US PRAY, DEAR GOD, WE COME TO YOU TO THIS DAY, ON THIS DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU BRING YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR GUIDANCE INTO THIS MEETING.

EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID AND DONE IN THIS MEETING BE HONORING AND PLEASING TO YOU, GOD AND EVERYTHING WE DO AND SAY, GIVE YOU GLORY, HELP EVERYBODY WHO IS ELECTED TO THEIR POSITIONS TO HAVE WISDOM AND ALL THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE.

AND GOD, WE GIVE YOU ALL THE GLORY AND YOUR NAME.

WE PRAY. AND EVERYBODY SAID, IMAM.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A RADIO VOICE.

YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS A CAREER, SIR.

ADAM JONES, MR. MEDINA, PRESENT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE, COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX, MRS. YANKALILLA BROWN, MISS SMITH HERE, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

WAL MART WATER CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD REPRESENTS RESIDENT OF DISTRICT POSITION ONE VACANCY ON THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOARD, REPRESENT AT LARGE MEMBER WHO OWNS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR OPERATES A BUSINESS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

TWO VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS RESIDENTIAL HOME BUILDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOMEBUILDING EMPLOYED WITHIN THE CITY OR PROFIT PROVIDER OR NOT FOR PROFIT PROVIDER POSITIONS.

TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER PHYSICIANS.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DIALOG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THIRTY FOUR ONE FOR THEIR AGENDA REVISION.

[AGENDA REVISIONS]

SIR, WE HAVE ONE AGENDA REVISION.

RECOGNITION OF PALM BAY POLICE OFFICER FOR ASSISTANCE PROVIDED TO THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 117 HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER RECOGNITION'S.

THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM SMITH NOW, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON UNDER CONSENT.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

IT'S COUNCIL WISH TO PULL ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU KNOW, AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE GENERAL REVISIONS OF ITEM FOR UNDER RECOGNITION'S AND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEMS FOUR AND SEVEN.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN.

FELIX IS THE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

CNN ALL IN FAVOR, AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM OR. ADAM SMITH.

[4. Resolution 2021-40, amending Resolution 2020-35, which established the Stormwater Utility Fee, by correcting a scrivener's error and removing provisions related to the automatic adjustment of the stormwater utility fee rate based on the Consumer Price Index.]

THERE WAS APPROVED OF AN ITEM, THE NEXT ITEM.

COUNTY, FLORIDA, ZELENIK BAY PROPERTY HAS RECORDED A 17 PAGE, 22 THROUGH 33 INCLUSIVE OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION. TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S 40.

A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MITTING RESOLUTION 2020.

THAT'S 35, WHICH ESTABLISHES STORMWATER UTILITY FEE CORRECTNESS, GROSVENOR'S ERROR AND REMOVING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE AUTOMATIC ADJUSTMENT.

THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, RESENDING RESOLUTIONS OF PAST RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, ITEM FOUR, WE HAVE MR. BILL GILBERT. GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

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USE? CURRENTLY, THE E.R.

YOU IS GOING TO BE ONE 31 VERSUS FIVE HUNDRED AND I MEAN A HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY NICE OF THE CITY TO LOWER HOW MUCH I HAVE TO PAY IN MY TAXES AS THE FIRST ONE. SO I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A PRICE STILL BE AN ANNUAL PRICE ADJUSTMENT ITEM NUMBER TO.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY SORE SUBJECT.

TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT THE TAX EXEMPT INSTITUTIONS DO NOT HAVE TO PAY.

SO WITH THAT, I'M REQUESTING COULD I PLEASE GET A COPY OF THE EXEMPT PROPERTIES SO I CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE? LAST TIME I LOOKED AT IT, I ACTUALLY SAW ANIMAL CARE CENTER ON THEIR.

ALL RIGHT, I REALIZE FEDERAL AND STATE DON'T HAVE TO PAY, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN EVERY TAX EXEMPT IDENTITY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF SERVICES RENDERED FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MADAM JOAN CALIBRA.

THANK YOU ASK.

THERE WILL BE A REVIEW OF THE ANNUAL PRICE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE STORM WATER UTILITY FEE FOR THE TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR INSTITUTIONAL EXEMPTION, I BELIEVE COUNCIL DISCUSSED DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, REVISITING THE DISCUSSION ON THE INSTITUTIONAL EXEMPTIONS, STARTING WITH FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY THREE.

AND YES, SIR GILBERT AND I WILL WORK WITH YOU TO GET A COPY OF.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. COULD WE ALL GET A COUPLE? SO I NEED A MOTION. I DON'T MAKE A MOTION PROVIDE THEM FOR UNDER JOHNSON AGENDA, I CAN.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM SEVEN, MR.

[7. Consideration of expenditures from the Palm Bay Police Department's Law Enforcement Trust Fund and entering into a multi-year, sole source agreement with Flock Group, Inc. for automated license plate reader cameras ($42,500).]

AND I WAS LOOKING AT THIS ITEM.

I NOTICED THAT IT'S FOR MY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT MY POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND BE PHYSICALLY, FINANCIALLY ACCOUNTABLE TO MY CITY.

WHEN I SAW THAT IT WAS FORTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS ANNUALLY AS THE TOTAL PRICE TAG OF TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER THE TERM OF THIS CONTRACT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, AT THE END OF THAT CONTRACT, WILL THE CITY OWN THESE LICENSE PLATE READERS OR WILL IT JUST BE SOMETHING THAT EVENTUALLY GOES BACK TO THE SAME COMPANY? WE HAVE TO RENEW THAT CONTRACT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A CONTINUAL.

EXPENSE WITHIN THE CITY, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION AND.

SECOND ITEM, I KNOW THERE IS A GREAT ASSET TO THE POLICE WITH THESE CAT, WITH THESE LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS, THEY'VE ALREADY EARNED THEIR KEEP JUST UNDER TRIAL PERIOD.

I'M VERY I AM VERY MUCH AWARE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

HOWEVER, I SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE ABUSE OF THIS RESOURCE AS IT WILL BE NO MORE THAN DATA STORED ON A COMPUTER SOMEPLACE THAT CAN BE, I CAN'T SAY, EASILY HACKED.

BUT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST WHERE DATA THAT WE THINK IS SECURE HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC ONLY TO BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE THAT WERE IMPACTED.

I'M JUST SAYING PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS AND GUARDED FOR AS MUCH AS IT'S WORTH.

AND I HOPE I'M NOT THE ONE THAT GETS CAUGHT IN THAT GRID.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. MS. MS. BROWN AND THEN CULEBRA.

WE WILL MY UNDERSTANDING, WILL NOT OWN THE CAMERAS, THEY WILL BE LEAST.

AND SO ONCE THE CONTRACT EXPIRES, THEY WE WOULD HAVE TO RENEW THE CONTRACT IN ORDER TO ANYONE AND ADDITIONALLY, THE CAMERAS WILL NOT BE.

THEY WILL NOT BE ACTIVELY MONITORED.

HOWEVER, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I WOULD DEFER TO? YOU WANT TO COME UP AND JUST HEIGHTEN THAT, THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE SECURITY OF THAT DATA. THE NEWS MEDIA COUNCIL, SO FIRST, THAT IS CORRECT, IT IS A LEASE PROGRAM.

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THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING BETTER, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE SUITABLE TO OUR NEEDS HERE LOCALLY. CURRENTLY, THIS TECHNOLOGY IS WIDELY USED AND AGGRESSIVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

OUR CITY IS NOT UNIQUE TO ITS NEED FOR A LARGE CITY.

WE HAVE COUNTLESS MILAGE OF ROADWAYS, LIMITED STAFFING AND A CRIME ISSUE THAT WE MUST CONTROL. SO IT'S MY OBLIGATION TO TRY WHEN I CAN AND HOW I CAN TO TRY TO MITIGATE ANY FACTORS THAT WOULD KEEP OUR PUBLIC FROM BEING SAFE.

THIS TECHNOLOGY GIVES US THE ABILITY TO AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT BOTH MR. BATTON AND THE PUBLIC AND YOU ALL KNOW IT'S NOT MONITORED LIVE AS WE USE AS A TOOL FOR POST INSTANT OR AS AN INCIDENT IS UNFOLDING.

IT IS A STATIONARY LICENSE PLATE READER, IT IS NOT AFFIXED TO PATROL VEHICLES ROAMING RANDOMLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, IT IS NOT LEFT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF A PATROL OFFICER TO EITHER TURN IT ON OR OFF.

THESE ARE FIXED TO STRATEGIC AREAS OF OUR ROADWAYS AND IT DOES PROVIDE US MUCH NEEDED DATA. I AS WELL, WHEN WE FIRST SAW THIS TECHNOLOGY, WAS QUITE SKEPTIC BECAUSE I ALSO HAVE A STRONG FEELING ABOUT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS AND OUR RIGHTS.

BUT AS I SAW THE APPLICATION OF THE DATA AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE CAN CONTROL AS WE IMPLEMENTED, I WAS SOLD.

AND THEN WHEN I SAW THE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF HOW IT SOLVED MANY CRIME FELONIES, INCLUDING GETTING LEADS ON HOMICIDE CASES, IT'S JUST WITHOUT IT, I THINK WE'D BE WAY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL. AND I THINK IN THIS DAY AND AGE, WE MUST USE WHATEVER TECHNOLOGY WE CAN'T RESPONSIBLY.

THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL COME WITH POLICY.

IT'LL COME WITH VERY STRICT GUIDELINES OF USE.

SO TO ANSWER MR. BATTEN'S QUESTION, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I TAKE LIGHTLY.

I AM AWARE THAT INFORMATION DOES GO TO A STORAGE RIGHT TO TO THAT ENDLESS CLOUD THAT WE ALL KNOW AND I TO SHARE CONCERNS FOR.

IN THE EVENT THAT INFORMATION IS BREACHED, I MUST RELY ON THE COMPANY.

WE VETTED THIS COMPANY. WELL, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A BREACH. THIS COMPANY IS REPUTABLE.

WE TRIED THEM OUT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WITH GREAT SUCCESS, BOTH IN APPLICATION AND WITH DEALINGS WITH THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY.

I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT SHORT BRIEF.

I WILL HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT IN THIS ELECTRONIC WORLD, FIVE YEARS THINGS BECOME OBSOLETE IN TWO AND TWO YEARS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LEASING AS WELL.

I ALSO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF, APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE IN PROTECTING OUR CITY.

THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE. ALSO, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE EXPENDITURES OF LETTERFORMS DESCRIBED HERE, IT UP TO FORTY TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED UNDER SOLE SOURCE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH FLOC SAFETY, AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS, CAMERAS AND SOLUTIONS FOR FLOC GROUP, INC..

AGAIN. GOT MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN, FELIX, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN? CNN ALL IN FAVOR IS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON RECOGNITION'S, FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE.

[RECOGNITIONS]

A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, ALFRED, A GALLERY, AND VICTOR SILVA MARTINEZ.

ALSO, THE CALL UP.

DIANA. THIS IS THE PAYOFF CEREMONY, THIS MEMORIAL.

OH. SO.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME, THEY GIVE UP THEIR TIME. THAT IS ONE, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW.

DELEGATES HERE AND WE APPRECIATE WE APPRECIATE YOU.

MASTER CHIEF, WE TRULY DO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA YOUR INPUT IS VALUABLE TO OUR COUNCIL AND TO OUR CITY. SO WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ACTUALLY DEDICATE THEIR LIVES, VOLUNTEER HOURS TO

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AND THAT EXCITING. THEY DON'T GET PAID THEIR SERVICES, HOW THEY GET PAID.

KIND OF LIKE MY BROTHERS IN ARMS OVER HERE WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO READ THIS AND GRATEFUL APPRECIATION FOR YOUR CONTINUING OUTSTANDING, DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CONTRIBUTION YOU OFFER FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS.

AS A VOLUNTEER, YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE WELL-BEING OF FELLOW RESIDENTS AND THE WELFARE OF ALL OUR CITIZENS BY GIVING TIMELY, TIRESOMELY, OF YOUR TIME AND ENERGY WITHOUT DESIRE FOR RECOGNITION OR RENUMERATION OR PERSONAL GAIN.

THIS VOLUNTEER PEN IS BUT A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR CONTINUED LOYAL AND DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE, AND IT'S RENDERED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO IN IN THE MILITARY, SIR, WE HAVE A TRADITION ON PENE.

I JUST WANT YOU AND MY BROTHERS KNOW WE WHEN WE PIN SOMETHING ON YOU, WE LITERALLY PIN IT TILL WE SEE BLOOD. BUT BUT BUT IN THIS REGARD, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT TODAY.

SO I WANT TO HONOR YOU BY PRINTING THIS AS.

AS A TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION.

GO AHEAD. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAVE.

IT'S LEVELAND TO THE COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THOSE KIND WORDS AND I APPRECIATE THE AUDIENCE ALSO TO BE HERE TO WITNESS THIS KIND OF THING.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE SINCE 1985, AND I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

I THINK I'M GOING TO BE AROUND FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS.

I DONATE, I CONTRIBUTE, AND I VOLUNTEER TO THE CITY WITH OPEN ART.

AND I THINK I'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS LONG AS LIFELESS.

THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT.

IS THE.

CHARLENE HORTON. IS CHARLENE HERE? I GUESS SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GET TO TODAY.

REPORTER, FERRANTI.

IT'S TIME I IF ON THE FRONTIER OF.

DOES NOT GIVE US, BUT I WANTED TO SAY WITH THAT ITALIAN ACCENT THAT.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MS. MRS. GIANCOLA BROWN.

YOU, SIR, WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM JEFF COX WITH AMERICAN LEGION POST 17, SEEKING TO RECOGNIZE PALM BAY POLICE OFFICERS FOR ASSISTANCE PROVIDED TO THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 117. TURN IT OVER TO JEFF.

IF FROM SENATOR.

YES, THAT'S MY. HELLO, EVERYONE, MY NAME IS JEFF CACS AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF AMERICAN LEGION WRITERS POST WAS 17 AND PALM BAY.

WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THIS PLAC.

TO THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE VISION A AND B DAYSHIFT, THEY HAVE ESCALUS IN OUR LAST THREE BENEFIT RUNS.

WHICH HAS RESULTED IN ALMOST SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH HAS HELPED OUR COMMUNITY. AND OUR MEMBERS IN NEED IS STILL LOCAL.

THIS PLAQUE IS OUR TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION.

OR THE PAST RUNS.

AND HOPEFULLY THE FUTURE RUNS THAT WE.

OR THE FUTURE SUPPORT.

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SO.

COMMANDER, WHY ARE YOU SHY? COME ON UP. NO.

THAN.

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.

HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

SO, RIGHT, WE'RE IN THE PRESENTATIONS AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU, MADAM

[PRESENTATIONS]

GOOD EVENING. I'M LESLIE BIRD, I'M THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

I'M ALSO AN 11 YEAR RESIDENT OF PALM BAY AND A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, ARRIUM REAL ESTATE IN PALM BAY AS WELL. I'M EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE FIRST DRAFT OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN ADVANCE, ALL 22 PAGES OF IT.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE A LITTLE FAMILIAR AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE AT THE END, I WANT TO HAVE SOME QUESTION AND DISCUSSION FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT PRIORITIES YOU HAVE THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL DRAFT WHEN WE PRESENT IT.

SUSTAINABILITY AT ITS MOST BASIC IS TO MEET OUR NEEDS WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE ABILITY OF FUTURE GENERATIONS TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

AND IT ENCOMPASSES AND AFFECTS ALL ASPECTS OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

IT AFFECTS LOCAL BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS.

IT CAN BE ABOUT THINKING GREEN EQUITY AND AND EFFICIENCY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, RESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT OF OUR RESOURCES.

THAT'S FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AS WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SPEND MONEY WISELY AND THAT WE INVEST IN OUR RESILIENCY FOR THE FUTURE.

IT ALSO IS MORAL RESPONSIBILITY AS WE CONSIDER OUR ACTIONS, HOW THEY IMPACT THE PEOPLE AROUND US AND THE WORLD AND ALSO THE FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT INHERIT PALM BAY.

THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2013 TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF AND MANAGER ON ISSUES OF SUSTAINABILITY, INCLUDING THOSE THAT ARE LISTED THERE. AND WE, IN ADDITION, WERE GIVEN THE TASK AND RESPONSIBILITY OF DEVELOPING A SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN THAT WOULD HELP THE CITY ACHIEVE ITS GOAL OF 100 PERCENT CLEAN ENERGY BY THE YEAR TWENTY, THIRTY FIVE.

IT HAS TAKEN THREE YEARS FOR US TO BRING YOU THIS FIRST DRAFT AS A NEW BOARD.

NO ONE ON THE BOARD HAD EVER HEARD OF IT OR BEEN ON A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD BEFORE, AND THERE HAD NEVER BEEN ONE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO IT TOOK A LOT OF OUTSIDE GUIDANCE FROM EXPERTS AND A LOT OF HELP FROM THE CITY STAFF TO PREPARE AND BRING US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.

WE ALSO STRUGGLED WITH QUORUMS SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE FIRST YEAR AS WE HAD ONE SEAT THAT REMAINED VACANT. AND SO FOR HIM WAS AN ISSUE AND THEN WE HAD A PANDEMIC.

BUT THANKFULLY, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING YOU OUR FIRST DRAFT.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE BOTH THE MEMBERS AND WHO APPOINTED THEM AND WHEN THEIR TERMS END, IN ADDITION TO THOSE MEMBERS, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL FORMER MEMBERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN PREPARING THE PLAN, SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE EXTREMELY VALUABLE IN HELPING US PREPARE THE PLAN.

AND WE ALSO HAD TO 50 STUDENT INTERNS WHO WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THE WRITING OF THE

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THE ACTION PLAN THEY RECEIVED IS ADDRESSING FIVE ELEMENTS OF SUSTAINABILITY, WE ADDRESS THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY OF INNOVATIVE WASTE MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

WITHIN THOSE FIVE ELEMENTS, WE HAVE CREATED TWO TO FOUR GOALS.

AND UNDER THOSE GOALS, THERE ARE A SLEW OF OBJECTIVES.

THOSE OBJECTIVES ARE BROKEN DOWN INTO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, LOCAL CITIZEN OBJECTIVES AND LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.

BEGINNING WITH THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS AROUND WATER AND LAND.

EXCUSE ME, I'M GOING TO BE SURE THAT OUR NATURAL LANDS, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, ARE PRESERVED. AND WE WANTED TO BE SURE WE PROTECTED BOTH OUR GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE BODY WATERS, YOU'LL NOTICE.

AND THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PLAN.

SOME ARE REALLY BIG AND SOME ARE VERY LONG TERM.

SOME COULD BE QUITE EXPENSIVE INVESTMENTS AND SOME OF THEM ARE VERY QUICK AND VERY EASY.

AN EXAMPLE HERE OF A LONG TERM LARGE OBJECTIVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS TO CONVERT FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER.

WE KNOW THAT THE TWO STRONGEST POLLUTANTS OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON ARE LEAKY SEPTIC TANKS AND STORMWATER RUNOFF.

SO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE CITY RESIDENTS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S OTHER OBJECTIVES THAT YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON WITH BHATHAL BOXES TO ADDRESS STORMWATER RUNOFF.

WITH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, WE ADDRESSED ALL STRUCTURES MANMADE IN PALM BAY, BOTH GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS AND INDIVIDUALS, AND ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ENERGY THAT THOSE BUILDINGS CONSUME.

WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE REDUCING OUR ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND THAT WE ARE USING GREEN ENERGY RESOURCES.

WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS A GOAL IMMEDIATELY IS THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF PALM BAY, THAT SUSTAINABLE GOALS ARE BROUGHT FORWARD TO ANYONE THAT'S DEVELOPING OR COMMITTEES THAT ARE WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

OR THE.

TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, WE ADDRESSED NOT ONLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF ROADS THAT WE DRIVE ON, BUT OUR MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT WE USE, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE ROADS DO NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT IS MINIMIZED.

SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MULTIMODAL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, NON MOTORIZED FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO USE NON MOTORIZED FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.

AND YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE OF A LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVE COULD BE TO HAVE PLACES FOR CARPOOLING AND BICYCLING AND ALSO OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION OUTSIDE OF SINGLE CAR DRIVERS. OR EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT, YOU MAY NOTICE THAT ALL OF THE OBJECTIVES ARE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES BECAUSE THE ONUS IS ON US TO EDUCATE AND TO COLLABORATE WITH THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY DOING SUSTAINABILITY, THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING ON MISSIONS SIMILAR TO OURS. WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT WITH THEM AND HAVE THE LOCAL CITIZENS BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THEM.

ONE EXAMPLE OBJECTIVE THAT WE HAVE IS TO HAVE AN ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY POINT, OUR ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, WHERE WE CAN BRING TOGETHER PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THIS KIND OF WORK AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THESE SPECIFIC OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES THAT ARE LOCAL SPECIFIC TO PALM BAY AND CONSIDER THOSE.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU TONIGHT, HAVING RECEIVED THE FIRST DRAFT WE WANTED TO AND ASKED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN IN HOPES THAT IF YOU HAVE. A PRIORITY THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE REPRESENTED IN THE PLAN, THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT AND THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON OUR COMMON GOALS.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNSEL FIRST.

WHAT WOULD YOU INCLUDE AND WHAT WOULD YOU RAISE TO THE TOP AS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY NOW VERSUS SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT BE LATER ON PRIORITIES?

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SO I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT, LAY THAT FOUNDATION, BECAUSE THIS IS TRULY IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR THIS COUNCIL, BUT COUNCILS YEARS TO COME AND AND OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

AND SO I'LL OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS TO TO OUR COUNCIL.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I GOT A LIST, AS THE MAYOR STATED, GREAT JOB, NOT JUST TO YOURSELF, BUT TO YOUR VICE CHAIR, TO THE REST OF THE BOARD, TO NEWLY APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS.

I DID IT. IT TOOK SOME TIME, BUT WE ALL DID IT.

AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH IT.

I'M GLAD YOU HIGHLIGHTED SEPTIC TO SEWER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE TURKEY CREEK AND THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FOR OTHER AREAS, INDIAN RIVER LAGOONS ONLY AFFECT IT.

BUT FOR US IS TURKEY CREEK AND THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK IS TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE LIST AND IT KIND OF GOES INTO OUR UPCOMING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

SO AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED, AGAIN, BURAK COUNCIL REPORTS.

BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP COMING UP NEXT WEEK FOR THAT AT SIX P.M.

ON AUGUST 24TH, ONE THAT I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IN COUNCIL MEETINGS AND I'VE SHARED WITH MS..

THERE SHE IS. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.

BUT I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD LOOK INTO IT AS WELL.

OR WE CAN FORWARD WHAT THE CITY, ORLANDO HAS ALREADY SENT US.

IT'S ELECTRIC HYBRID VEHICLES AND CHARGING STATIONS.

ORLANDO ALREADY AHEAD OF US.

BUT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SPENT A LOT OF THEIR INFORMATION.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL COULD LOOK AT AS WELL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, COME FORTH BEFORE US OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE CASE WITH SOLAR POWER AND THE PANELS WITH FPL, WE APPROVE THE WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW? WANT TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN BE MORE CLEAR.

OK, SO TO.

HE KNOWS WHAT IT WAS LIKE, ACRES UPON ACRES.

YES, I KNOW, I'M NOT SURE YET.

THE SOLAR FARM AREA.

AND I WOULD DEFER TO PATRICK MURPHY, OUR ACTING GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, SIR? ON A CONSTRUCTION, DO YOU KNOW, ESTIMATED DATE OF COMPLETION INTO THE YEAR? OK, SO WE HAVE THE SOLAR FARM WITH FPO LOOKING TO BE COMPLETED AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST THE START.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES, BUT BUILD UPON THAT AS WELL.

AND IN FUTURE UPCOMING MEETINGS THAT YOU'LL HAVE, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE MY KEY SUSTAINABILITY FIGURES IN BREVARD COUNTY, LIKE DR.

SOTO MAY REMEMBER HER OR DR.

D'WAYNE TO FREEZE VIRGINIA BACHER, BECAUSE I'VE LEARNED MYSELF, LEARNED SO MUCH.

AND IT'S STILL IT WAS OVERWHELMING AT TIMES.

BUT I THINK WITH YOUR BOARD AND ALL THE DIFFERENT MINDS YOU HAVE ON THERE, YOU ALL CAN TAKE AWAY A LOT, JUST LIKE I HAVE.

AND THEN LASTLY, OUTSPOKEN REPUBLICAN, THEY'VE THEY'VE SHOWN SUPPORT TOWARDS THIS DOOR, LIKE PARTNERING WITH, LIKE, KEEP BRAVAS, BEAUTIFUL FOR TRASH PICKUPS OR PUTTING OUT THOSE BIG DUMPSTERS THAT MELBOURNE HAS DONE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE TRASH IS CLEANED UP.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE COMPOUND, WE'RE ALL ACROSS THE CITY BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, HOW IT CAN BE.

SO BUT THESE ARE JUST THINGS I'M HIGHLIGHTING.

THE MAIN THING, I GUESS, IS JUST MAKING SURE WE PROTECT TURKEY CREEK IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF THE ELECTRIC AND HYBRID HYBRID VEHICLES AND CHARGING STATIONS.

BUT GREAT JOB.

I'M JUST SHARING MY INPUT.

BUT THANK YOU. AMAZING JOB.

THANK YOU. IF I CAN RESPOND, I THINK I FLIP THROUGH A SLIDE ON AN INNOVATIVE WASTE MANAGEMENT. AND IF I DID WE WERE WE IN THAT SECTION, WE REALLY STUCK TO REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE. WE WANT TO SEE LESS THINGS GOING TO THE LANDFILL BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR ANOTHER LANDFILL.

AND WE KNOW WE KNOW THOSE ARE PROBLEMATIC.

AND I DID INCLUDE IN THEIR UPKEEP, PROVIDE BEAUTIFUL CAME AND SPOKE TO US AT OUR LAST MEETING. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR PARTNERS WITH CITIES AND IN OUR COUNTY TO DO COMPOSTING SO WE CAN DIVERT ORGANIC MATTER FROM THE LANDFILL AS WELL.

SO I WILL DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN HEARING AND WILL CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM SOME EXPERTS IN THAT FIELD. AND WE WERE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH WITH THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS WELL.

WE WANT TO BE A LEADER IN FLORIDA FOR HAVING ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, OUR CITY GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO PARKS AND HAVING SOLAR CANOPIES THAT CAN POWER THOSE CHARGING STATIONS. THANK YOU.

FELIX YOU, MAYOR? I WOULD ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES JUST SAID.

GREAT JOB. AND I CERTAINLY KNOW NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, THE THE LEADERSHIP AND ALSO YOU HAVE

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AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

I'M A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY A DEPUTY MAYOR TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS.

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MENTION ONE THING, THOUGH, AS FAR AS PARTNERING, I'VE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT FBL, I HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE INSTEAD OF HAVING SOLAR PANELS ON YOUR OWN TABLE, YOUR HOUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SPONSOR.

IN FACT, THE PROGRAM IS SOLAR TOGETHER, WHERE YOU PARTNER WITH THEM, WHERE YOU SPONSOR, YOU KNOW, A FEW PANELS OUT WHEREVER THE FARM IS.

SO WHICH TO ME, I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO HOW CAN THE BOARD PARTNER PARTNER PARTNERING WITH WITH A COMPANY LIKE FPL JUST REALLY TO TO GET THAT WORD OUT? BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.

THE FIRST CHANCE I GET I'M INTERESTED TO LOOK INTO IT AS WELL.

I WOULD NOT PUT ANYTHING ON TOP OF MY ROOF OR OBVIOUS REASON, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I WOULD CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED.

AND SO THE BOARD MY RECOMMENDATION IS THE BOARD TO SEEK TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND TO REALLY PUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND PUT THAT INTO YOUR PROGRAM TO WHERE PARTNERING PARTNERSHIP, WHERE YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL, BUT NOT THAT.

THIS IS THIS IS GREAT.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION, I THINK.

WELL DONE. BUT I WOULD SAY LOOK FOR MORE TO INCREASE PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY FURTHER.

THANK YOU. ALSO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, THANK YOU TO YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY AND YOUR BOARD MEMBERS.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THEM.

GREAT JOB. CONTINUE TO SERVE AND CONTINUE TO LEAD THE CITY IN SUSTAINABILITY.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO INFORM THE COUNCIL AND IN OUR STAFF.

SO WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON TODAY, TO ME, NUMBER ONE, IS TURKEY CREEK.

IN THE RUBY LAGOON, AS FELL, WE WE PASS A HALF PERCENT SALES TAX A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I VOTED FOR THAT, BUT WE FAIRLY.

ALL AROUND THE STATE, NOT JUST A WATER SYSTEM, IS FAILING ALL AROUND THE STATE.

AND WE GOT TO I THINK IT WAS AN E OR F F.

PLUS F PLUS, WE WORKED HARD.

YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO FORGET ABOUT THE PLUS, WE NEED TO RAISE THAT.

PLUS WE NEED TO RAISE THE F.

EVERYBODY ON THIS DIYAS CAMPAIGN ON THE LAGOON, TURKEY CREEK.

AND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIES FOCUS ON SO SEPTICS TO SUWA IS VERY IMPORTANT.

OK, AND WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR PUBLIC, AND I'M NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO THAT, BUT. SUSTAINABILITY BOARD NEEDS TO DO IT, TOO, BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED TO GO SEPARATE THE SEWER AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITHOUT CUTTING THE COSTS ON THE ON A RESIDENT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY MAKE THAT YOUR NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO CHARGING STATION.

THE PRESIDENT MADE A BOLD THING IN WHAT IT WAS FOUR YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOST CARS IN THE UNITED STATES GOING TO BE ELECTRIC.

AND LIKE THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID, ORLANDO'S PAST US, WE WERE CATCHING WE TRYING TO CATCH UP TO THEM, SO AND FORD COMING OUT WITH A F 150 LIGHT PICKUP TRUCK.

AND I NEVER BOUGHT A PICKUP TRUCK, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT BUYING THAT TRUCK BECAUSE HE SAID IN A COMMERCIAL, SAY, THE KAPALUA HOUSE.

I MEAN, THESE THINGS THAT ARE INTERESTING AND A LOT OF AUTOMOBILES COMPANIES ARE GOING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

AND I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD GO TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT.

YOU KNOW, I HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS, SO ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION.

TRAFFIC IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

LIGHTING, STREET, LIGHTING, SAFETY, HOW CAN WE SUSTAIN OUR ROADWAY SO WE DON'T BE A WASHINGTON, D.C.

AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON?

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I DID IT FOR FIVE YEARS AND I HATED IT.

IT TOOK FOUR YEARS.

I MEAN, FOUR HOURS OUT OF MY DAY JUST TO GO TO TWO HOURS TO GO TO WORK AT TWO HOURS TO GET HOME. OK, AND THAT WAS ON A SUNNY DAY LIKE THIS, SO NOT A BAD WEATHER DAY.

SO TRAFFIC, HOW CAN WE SUSTAIN OUR ROADWAYS IS VERY IMPORTANT SAFETY ON OUR ROADWAYS TO ME. SO THEN THE THREE THINGS DEPUTY MAYOR HAVE HE HE LISTS A LOT OF THINGS THAT I LIKE THAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON.

BUT FOR ME, THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

TURKEY CREEK. CHARGING STATION AND TRAFFIC SAFETY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AND I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE A FEW THINGS, MA'AM, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS OUTSTANDING WORK.

RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING.

WE WE ALL AGREE ON LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE ALL WITNESSED DR.

LISA SOTO AND HER PRESENTATIONS.

WE'VE ALL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH VIRGINIA BARKER, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF NATURAL RESOURCES FOR THE COUNTY, WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED IN THE COLLABORATION ASPECT TO TO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WORKING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY ON MY MIND IS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND MAY PERHAPS PARTNER IN THAT COLLABORATION WITH OUR DEVELOPERS, SEE HOW WE CAN GET COST ANALYSIS REGARDING PERMEABLE CONCRETE THAT CAN REDUCE THAT SURFACE WATER RUNOFF.

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN BLESSED THIS THIS PAST YEAR.

WE'VE GOT TWO NUTRIENT FILTERED BAFFO BOXES THAT ARE COMING IN AND WE'RE GOING TO PLACE THEM NEAR THE TURKEY CREEK.

SO WE'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IS A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON AS AS MY COLLEAGUES ARE MENTIONING WITH THESE CHARGE STATIONS AND THE ABILITY TO TO ENHANCE THESE VEHICLES THAT ARE ELECTRIC.

WHERE THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS ON THIS COUNCIL THAT ARE PART OF THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION HERE, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING AND THIS IS A NATIONWIDE BUT HERE LOCALLY IS THE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX THAT WE RECEIVE TO MAINTAIN ROADS.

SO WHAT IS OCCURRING IS AS VEHICLES GET TO BE MORE ELECTRIC, THEY'RE USING LESS GAS.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE FINDING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT.

SO IN YOUR DISCUSSION WITH CHARGING STATIONS, IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL OR THE THE YOUR YOUR BOARD LOOK AT WAYS OF HOW CAN WE MAKE UP THAT DEFICIT? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE CRUCIAL TO MAINTAINING THE ROADS RIGHT NOW WITH WITH THE MASS TRANSIT, MASS TRANSPORTATION.

THAT'S PASCOE'S THAT'S A COUNTY DEPARTMENT.

HOWEVER, THEY GET FEDERAL FUNDING.

THAT'S HOW THEY OPERATE.

SO IF WE COULD START THAT DISCUSSION OF THE LARGEST POPULATION.

IN THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THOSE RULES.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PLAY A GOOD ROLE, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING SOME OF THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEFICIT FIGHT AS THESE ELECTRIC CARS ON A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE PANELS. AND I THINK I'D LOVE TO GET TO PICK COUNCILMAN FELIX BRAIN AS TO WHY NOT PANELS ON HIS ROOF BECAUSE HE'S KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ROOFS.

RIGHT. SO I FOUND THAT REALLY INTERESTING THAT HE WOULD SAY THAT BEING THAT HE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT ROOFS. BUT, MA'AM, AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE, OUTSTANDING JOB.

THAT LAGOON IS CLEARLY A PASSION FOR EACH AND EVERY MEMBER ON THIS BOARD.

WE RECOGNIZE THE ECONOMICAL IMPACT, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT IT HAS.

SO DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH? OF OF WHAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU AS A FELIX AND I APPRECIATE IT, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE BY AND LARGE ON THE SAME PAGE.

THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD ARE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WORKING ON AS WELL. SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

I DIDN'T NOTICE, IF I MAY, SINCE YOU DID SKIP THAT SLIDE AND JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED.

BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOING TO BE REALLY COST, COULD IT BE COST PROHIBITIVE, RIGHT? THOSE THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES.

RIGHT. SO IN THAT WHAT I FIND INTERESTING IS THE REUSEABLE THE YOU KNOW, THE COMPLEX PART

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HOW AGGRESSIVE IS THAT? HOW YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WHAT ARE THE.

CONSEQUENCES THAT ARE UNINTENDED, OF COURSE, OF THAT THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD BUILD ON THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT AND WHAT IS THE ACTUAL BENEFIT IN LOW? KEEPER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL HAS ALREADY WORKED WITH OTHER NATIONWIDE PROJECTS, PILOT PROJECTS BETWEEN CITIES AND NONPROFITS TO CREATE COMPOST.

AND SO THEY'VE THOUGHT THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND A LOT OF OUR SUGGESTIONS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE EXPERTIZE FROM OUTSIDE.

AND AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON THIS.

SO WE DO WANT TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM.

AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BRING CUBAVISION BEAUTIFUL INTO THAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP.

OUR BOARD, OUR BOARD IS VERY MUCH EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROGRAM, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF WHAT WOULD COME TO YOU. AND I COULD GO PROBABLY IN A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND HOW IT WOULD BE PAID FOR.

BUT THE THE PRESENTATION FROM KEEPER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, PROBABLY TO YOU ALL FOR THAT. AND IF WE CAN BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU, THEY'RE THE EXPERTS TO ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT IT'S A IT'S A WELL THOUGHT OUT AND TRIED AND TRUE PROGRAM THAT THEY DIDN'T CREATE.

THEY WENT OUT AND HAVE SEEN HOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE IT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME ARE THE BOARD? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING ON. NO ITEM, NO ITEM NUMBER TO.

MADAM CALIBRA.

SIR, WE HAVE CHIEF MOYAR PRESENTING THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT.

RETURNING AGAINST MAYOR COUNCIL.

SO BEFORE I BEGIN, I'D BE REALLY REMISS IF I DIDN'T SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF MY HEART WITH YOU AS WE SPEAK, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU SOME SOME DATA AND A LOT OF NUMBERS, AND I'M HEARING ALL THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS AND ACKNOWLEDGMENTS.

MY MIND IS DIVIDED AS I HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO IS ON A VENTILATOR.

FROM COVID, SO IN I KNOW IT'S SAID OUR COMMUNITY, OUR NATION, BUT IT IS IT IT HAS HIT US HERE AT HOME. AND SO I SAY THAT UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T SHARE HIS NAME AS AS YOU KNOW, I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE LISTENING IN OUR CITY, OUR EMPLOYEES, THEIR FAMILIES, THE AFFECTED EMPLOYEES, FRIENDS, HIS COWORKERS, THEY THEY KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM, ESPECIALLY IN TIMES LIKE THIS.

IF I COULD SHARE WITH YOU IN THE LAST 24 HOURS THE AMAZING ACTS THAT I HAVE SEEN FROM OUR EMPLOYEES AS THEY TAKE CARE OF ONE ANOTHER DURING THESE TIMES.

OH, SO, CHIEF.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

FOR US TO BE AS A FAMILY.

AND PRAY FOR OUR FAMILY MEMBER THAT IS STRUGGLING TODAY, SO I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY NOT CUSTOMARY, BUT I WOULD.

I WOULD. I'M ENCOURAGED BY THIS OPPORTUNITY, I'M GOING TO CALL UP.

A PASTOR TO COME IN AND BRIEFLY PRAY.

OR OUR FAMILY MEMBER THAT IS IN THE HOSPITAL TODAY ON A VENTILATOR.

WE DON'T NEED NAMES BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT GOD KNOWS EXACTLY OUR EVERY NEED.

SO HAS KEN DELGADO.

I SEE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE.

I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO STEP UP.

AND JUST RIGHT NEXT TO CHIEF MOYAR IS HE IS THE PROXY AND WILL BE WILL BE EXTENDING OUR HAND AND PRAYING FOR FOR CHIEF AND OUR FAMILY MEMBER.

I WELCOME THAT. AND THEN EVERY LIFE IS IMPORTANT, FATHER.

AND THE REALITY OF WHAT IS WRITTEN SAYS THAT IF YOU DID NOT WITHHOLD YOUR ONLY BEGOTTEN SON BUT GAVE HIM UP FOR US ALL, HOW MUCH MORE WOULD YOU NOT WITH HIM FREELY? GIVE US ALL THINGS.

FATHER, WE LIVED UP TO THE THRONE ROOM OF GRACE, NOT JUST LOVED ONES WITH MOYA, BUT EVERY PERSON THAT'S ON A VENTILATOR.

WE'RE ASKING THAT YOUR ANGELS BEGIN TO MINISTER UNDER THE POWER OF YOUR HOLY SPIRIT.

WE ASK THAT YOUR HEALING POWER INVADE EVERY ROOM.

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IN THE AUTHORITY OF JESUS NAME, WE ASK THAT YOUR GRACE BEGIN TO FLOW AND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT TO QUICKEN AND MAKE ALIVE BODIES, THAT YOUR BREATH, THE BREATH OF LIFE BEGIN TO FILL THE LUNGS WITH HEALTH.

THE BREATH OF LIFE.

AND THAT SALVATION WOULD COME.

IN THE FORM OF HEALING.

FOR OUR LOVED ONES IN THE POWER OF JESUS NAME, AMEN.

THANK YOU. I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT THIS EMPLOYEE, THIS PATROL OFFICER IS A.

AS A MAN OF GREAT CHARACTER AND GREAT STRENGTH, AND IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO FIGHT AND WIN, IT'S GOING TO BE HIM. SO WE'RE BEHIND HIM.

WE PRAY FOR THE BEST.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES FOR THAT.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MY ORGANIZATION.

SO TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS ANNUAL REPORT.

THIS CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, ALL THE ENGAGEMENTS, THE PLATFORMS OF COMMUNITY DIALOG WHERE WE FOUND OUT THAT WE WEREN'T HITTING A BENCHMARK ON ONE THING THAT IS COMMUNICATING THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR YEARS AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, THINGS THAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE JUST NOW PLAYING CATCH UP TO.

AND IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT AT SOME POINT YOU MAKE THAT PUBLIC.

IT'S TAKEN SEVERAL MONTHS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TRANSFORM THE DATA SO THAT IT'S AD COMPATIBLE INTO OUR WEBSITE BEFORE WE LAUNCH IT.

WE AGREED THAT IT WAS WISE FOR THIS PRESENTATION TO COME BEFORE OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY AND THE PUBLIC, AND SOMETIME NEXT WEEK IT'LL BE AVAILABLE IN OUR WEBSITE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF WHAT I BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT DATA THAT PAINTS A PICTURE OF HOW YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATES IN THE CITY.

SO IF YOU WOULD BEAR WITH ME.

LET ME START OFF BY BRIEFLY TALKING ABOUT OUR CRIME STATS NOW, THIS IS DATA BASED ON THE UNIFORM CRIME REPORT THAT ALTHOUGH PAINTS A PICTURE, IT'S NOT ENTIRELY MY FAVORITE BECAUSE IT'S A SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR DECADES, HOUSED BY THE FBI.

IT DOES AN ADEQUATE JOB.

BUT AS WE PROGRESS, WE HOPE THAT NIEBLAS, WHICH IS A REPORTING SYSTEM THAT WILL GO LIVE LATER THIS YEAR, WILL BE A LOT MORE ACCURATE.

AND THIS IS BECAUSE EACH CATEGORY HAS OTHER SUBCATEGORIES OF CRIMES THAT ARE NOT CAPTURED AND UCR. SO I JUST WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW IN A PUBLIC THAT THIS DATA IS VERY GENERALIZED, BUT IT GUIDES A LOT HOW WE DO OUR BUSINESS.

SO IN COMPARISON, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT COLUMN, WE'RE COMPARING TWENTY EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY NINETEEN. AND THE NUMBERS THAT WE LOOK AT ARE THE THREE BOTTOM CATEGORIES WHICH SAYS VIOLENT CRIME INDEX, PROPERTY CRIME INDEX AND TOTAL INDEX OFFENSES.

THAT MEANS TOTAL CRIME INDEX.

BUT BETWEEN TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND TWENTY NINETEEN WE SAW A TOTAL REDUCTION IN INDEX CRIME OF FIVE POINT FOUR PERCENT.

I FOCUS ON VIOLENT CRIME.

IN THOSE YEARS WE HAD A TWO PERCENT DECREASE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN, THE SAME DATA, DIFFERENT YEARS.

WE DROPPED FROM TWENTY NINETEEN AT TWENTY TWENTY A TOTAL INDEX.

WE DROPPED 10 PERCENT, A REDUCTION OF 17 PERCENT IN VIOLENT CRIME AND 11 PERCENT PROPERTY CRIME. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE VERY POSITIVE NUMBERS.

THE DATA WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO HOVER IN REDUCTIONS UNTIL WE HAVE A DIFFERENT REPORTING SYSTEM.

SO THAT I WANTED TO SET THE TONE BY PAINTING A PICTURE OF WHAT OUR ACTUAL CRIME LOOKS LIKE IN OUR CITY. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF OUR ORGANIZATION WITHOUT GETTING TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS. WE SAID HOPEFULLY IF THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED AT 176 SWORN OFFICERS, 74 CIVILIANS, A LOT OF THEM WORK HARD SUPPORT ROLES OR EVEN COMMUNICATION CENTER OR DISPATCHERS. TWO PART TIMERS, A LOT OF THEM ARE OUR MUCHLY REGARDED CROSSING GUARDS FOR A TOTAL OF 292 SOULS THAT OPERATE THIS ORGANIZATION.

IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS, WE CURRENTLY SAID JUST UNDER ONE HUNDRED TWENTY THREE THOUSAND.

AS OUR POPULATION AND HERE ARE THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWNS THAT WE USE, 60 PERCENT WHITE, 18 PERCENT BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN, 19 PERCENT HISPANIC AND THREE PERCENT ASIAN OR OTHER.

PLEASE REMEMBER THESE NUMBERS.

I'LL TRY TO GO BACK TO HIM AS A PRESENT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THAT I WILL PRESENT FORTHCOMING ARE VERY RELATED TO THESE NUMBERS.

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CENSUS. HANG ON A SECOND, SIR.

NO, I'M NOT GOOD WITH TECHNOLOGY, I'LL JUST LOSE IT HERE, SIR.

THOSE NUMBERS IN REGARDS TO THE LATEST U.S.

CENSUS, THESE NUMBERS THAT WE TRACK AS PART OF OUR INTERNAL PROCESSES, AND SOME OF IT DID COME FROM THE CENSUS. YES.

SO NEXT IS THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC STOPS, TRAFFIC STOPS IS ONE OF THE CORE FUNCTIONS THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS DO, PARTICULARLY WITH TRAFFIC RELATED ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN A CITY OUR SIZE WE HAD IN THE YEAR 2020 JUST UNDER 11000 TRAFFIC STOPS.

ARE THOSE ONLY SIXTEEN HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT WERE WRITTEN CITATIONS OR 15 PERCENT, 85 PERCENT OR JUST OVER 9000 WERE FORWARDED WARNING'S.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR ORGANIZATION HOPES AND BANKS ON THE FACT THAT AN ENCOUNTER WITH OUR POLICE OFFICER, A GOOD VERBAL DIALOG WILL BE A DETERRENT THAT WE NEED.

AND THE FOLLOWING IS A BREAKDOWN.

THIS IS THIS IS THE THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF OUR PRESENTATION, BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE NUMBERS AND HOW THEY REMAINED CONSTANT THROUGHOUT EVERY METRIC THAT WE FOLLOW.

SO FOR THIS ONE, I WENT BACK TO YEAR TWENTY EIGHTEEN THROUGH 2020.

AND IF YOU SEE THE NUMBER IN PERCENTAGES AND DEMOGRAPHICS BY RACE ARE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ALL THREE YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, 53 PERCENT WHITE IN THE YEAR 2020 WAS THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE FOLKS THAT WERE STOPPED, BLACK OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

TWENTY NINE PERCENT IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN HISPANIC, 14 PERCENT, ASIAN, ONE PERCENT AND OTHER. WHAT'S UNCANNY IS IF YOU LOOK AT YEAR TWENTY, NINETEEN AND TWENTY TWENTY, LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS. 53 PERCENT, 55 PERCENT, 54 PERCENT, 29 PERCENT, 27 PERCENT.

TWENTY NINE PERCENT.

EQUALLY, WITH THE HISPANIC RATIO AT 14, 13 AND 13, ONE, ONE AND ONE.

THAT, TO ME, SPEAKS VOLUMES OF ALL OF OUR APPROACH TO POLICING AND CONSISTENT APPLICATION OF OUR LAW. SO WE BROKE IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER.

THIS IS ADDITIONAL DEMOGRAPHIC FOR TRAFFIC STOPS.

IF YOU SEE. LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES ON THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN THAT SPEAKS OF THE AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGES OF WARNINGS THAT WERE AWARDED, AS I TOLD YOU, WARNING'S, VERBAL WARNINGS LEADS THE WAY IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR EACH DEMOGRAPHIC AS I GO DOWN THE LINE TO LOOKING AT 84 PERCENT ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER.

OR WHITE, 87 PERCENT WERE BLACK OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

SPANISH AT 83 PERCENT, ASIAN AT 88 PERCENT OR OTHER 86 PERCENT.

THESE ARE UNCANNY COMMONALITIES.

BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS I GO ALONG, PLEASE.

AND PLEASE LEAD THE WAY.

NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT ARRESTS, YET ANOTHER METRIC THAT IS OF IMPORTANCE TO US.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU A TOTAL NUMBERS OF CALLS FOR SERVICE IN JUST A SECOND.

BUT IN YEAR TWENTY 19, WE ARRESTED 30, 240 PEOPLE IN YOUR TWENTY, TWENTY, TWENTY, THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY. WE HAVE AN ASSUMPTION.

THAT THE REDUCTION IN REST WAS LARGELY INTACT DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

THE EXPOSURE FOLKS STAYED AT HOME, FOLKS DIDN'T WANDER IN THE ROADWAYS, WE HAD A LOT LESS INCIDENTS OF ENCOUNTERS OR CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT RESULTED IN ARRESTS.

LET'S LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS AS WE GO DOWN FOR 2019 AND AS I GO DOWN, PLEASE COMPARE THE LEFT COLUMN AND RIGHT COLUMN AS I GO THROUGH THE DEMOGRAPHIC WHITE.

SIXTY FIVE PERCENT TO 66 PERCENT, BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN, 33 PERCENT TO 33 PERCENT.

ASIAN OR OTHER POINT, SIX PERCENT AND ONE PERCENT.

HISPANIC, EIGHT POINT SIX PERCENT OR SEVEN PERCENT, AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN OF GENDER, 72 PERCENT TO 69 PERCENT IN 20 20.

AND FOR THE FEMALE THAT WAS FEMALES THAT WERE THERE, 28 PERCENT TO 31 PERCENT.

AGAIN, AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, AS A POLICE CHIEF, I LOOK AT ANOMALIES.

ANOMALIES, ANYTHING THAT TELLS ME THAT RAISES A FLAG TO ME THAT FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR MAY HAVE EITHER GONE UP DRASTICALLY, DOWN DRASTICALLY.

TO ME THAT NUMBER HOVERS AROUND FIVE PERCENT.

I DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THAT.

GO ON. NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE AND ORGANIZATION, I DON'T

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THIS ORGANIZATION WE CALL IT RESPONDS TO RESISTANCE BECAUSE TYPICALLY THE APPLICATION OF A TACTIC OF A DEFENSIVE TACTIC IS BASED UPON AN OFFICER RESPONDING TO AGGRESSION OR THE RESISTANCE OF AN ARREST.

NOW, IN YOUR TWENTY NINETEEN, WE HAD EIGHTY THOUSAND CALLS FOR SERVICE, JUST OVER EIGHTY THOUSAND CALLS FOR SERVICE.

OUT OF THOSE WE ARRESTED, THIRTY TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE, WHICH IS FOUR PERCENT.

OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND TOTAL.

OUT OF THOSE THIRTY TWO HUNDRED AND CHANGE, ARE OFFICERS APPLIED FORCE IN RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE, ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN TIMES.

OR THREE PERCENT.

LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS BELOW.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN OF THOSE THAT WE APPLIED IN RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE. SIXTY PERCENT WHITE.

THIRTY THREE PERCENT BLACK, SEVEN PERCENT HISPANIC.

YOU LOOK AT GENDER, 78 PERCENT MALE.

TWENTY TWO PERCENT FEMALE.

OR FURTHER, IF YOU LOOK AT AN AGE DEMOGRAPHIC.

OBVIOUSLY, IT IS THAT AGE GROUP OF 18 TO 28 THAT LEADS THE WAY.

AND HERE AT THE BOTTOM IS THE TYPES OF RESISTANCE, SO.

IN OUR BUSINESS, WE CATEGORIZE THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF RESISTANCE THAT OUR OFFICERS ENCOUNTER. WHAT LEADS THE WAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MIDDLE COLUMN, IS ACTIVE RESISTANCE.

ACTIVE RESISTANCE CAN MEAN THE MINUTE THAT AN OFFICER TELL SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE UNDER ARREST. THAT PERSON, BRACE'S TENSAS, ATTEMPTS TO PULL AWAY THAT RIGHT THERE IN ACSA, ACTIVE RESISTANCE THAT LED THE WAY 73 PERCENT OF THE TIMES.

THANKFULLY, NOT MUCH HAPPENED AFTER THAT INITIAL RESISTANCE.

AGGRESSIVE RESISTANCE GETS A LITTLE SERIOUS 16 PERCENT OF THE TIME AGGRESSIVELY, OUR OFFICERS WERE EITHER BATTERED, SWUNG AT.

SUBJECT MAY OR MAY NOT MADE AN ATTEMPT TO HARM AN OFFICER TO CAUSE GREAT BODILY HARM.

AND THEN WE WERE MET WITH FOUR INCIDENTS OF DEADLY FORCE.

NOW, WHAT I NEED TO REPORT ABOUT THAT ONE IS THAT OUR OFFICERS RESPONDED NOT WITH DEADLY FORCE, BUT WERE ABLE TO DE-ESCALATE EVERY ONE OF THOSE FOUR ARMED ENCOUNTERS, RESULTING IN NO LOSS OF LIFE.

THAT'S YEAR TWENTY NINETEEN.

LET'S COMPARE IT TO TWENTY TWENTY.

AGAIN, I SAID EARLIER, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMPARATIVE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES, BECAUSE THEY SPEAK VOLUMES.

TWENTY TWENTY FOUR, WE RESPONDED TO EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND AND CHANGE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

OUT OF THOSE, LIKE I SAID, TWENTY THREE HUNDRED ARRESTS OR THREE PERCENT OF THE TIME.

OUT OF THOSE HUNDRED AND FIVE, FIVE TIMES WHERE OUR OFFICERS MET WITH RESISTANCE, THAT EQUATES TO FOUR PERCENT.

LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

THAT'S KEENLY SIMILAR TO WHAT I REPORTED FOUR YEAR 2019.

AGAIN, SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

AS I GO THROUGH 51 PERCENT WHITE.

BLACK OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN, 39 PERCENT, 10 PERCENT HISPANIC.

GENDER, AGE, ALL REMAIN CONSISTENT.

SIMILAR RESULTS FOR THE LEVEL OF RESISTANCE THAT OUR OFFICERS WERE MET.

NOW, HERE'S WHAT I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE OR OTHERWISE KNOWN AS USE OF FORCE IN OUR AGENCY, AND FOR YEARS IT ENACTS A PROCESS SO WE DON'T LOOK AT RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE.

DAYS LATER, WE DON'T LOOK AT RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE WHEN SOMEONE CALLS AND MAKES A COMPLAINT. WHEN AN OFFICER ENCOUNTERS RESISTANCE AND HE HAS TO APPLY A RESPONSE TO THAT RESISTANCE, IT TRIGGERS WHAT WE CALL AN RTR AND RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE INVESTIGATION ON THE SPOT. IT MANDATES THAT ARE NOT THAT A SERGEANT OR SUPERVISOR RESPOND TO THE SCENE.

IT MANDATES THAT WE TAKE PICTURES AND MANDATES THAT WE TAKE A STATEMENT, MANDATES THAT WE INTERVIEW THE SUSPECT, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THEY'LL TELL YOU, YEAH, I, I LOST MY MIND THERE FOR A SECOND. I APOLOGIZE.

WE GET THAT 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME.

ALL THOSE METRICS ARE DOCUMENTED IN THE INVESTIGATION BY THE TIME THEY MAKE IT TO MY LEVEL, THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY SARGENTS, PICTURES HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT, WITNESSES HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IS ALREADY DONE AND NOT DONE.

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AND OUR AGENCY AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE, OUR FOLKS KNOW THAT RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE INVESTIGATIONS IS THERE TO COVER THE PUBLIC AND COVER THEM IN CASE OF EITHER AN ALLEGATION THAT ISN'T TRUE OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT SERVES FOR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR US SO THAT OFFICERS KNOW THE MINUTE I APPLY FOR.

I HAVE TO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PONY UP ON THE SPOT TO MY SUPERVISOR AND ANSWER TO THAT ACT. AND WE DO SO FOR MANY YEARS.

LET'S MOVE ON. THIS IS JUST AN EXCERPT FROM A POLICY MANEUVER INTO WHAT IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS I.A.

INVESTIGATIONS, INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN.

THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL STANDARD ETHIC THAT WE ABIDE BY.

OK, SO IN OUR ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF INQUIRIES, ONE, INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS WHICH ARE FORMAL IN NATURE.

THOSE, AS YOU KNOW, ARE MANDATED BY STATE STATUTE.

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW GUIDELINES ON THE STATE STATUTE AND HOW WE PERFORM THOSE.

A CASE BECOMES AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION.

IF THE RESULT OF THAT DESIGNATION, IF FOUND TO BE SUSTAINED, WOULD LEAD FOR ME TO IMPACT DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, A SUSPENSION OR ABOVE.

DIVISIÓN INQUIRY'S IS THE SECOND TYPE OF INVESTIGATIONS, THOSE DEAL WITH PROCEDURAL ERRORS OR ALLEGATIONS OF VIOLATIONS OF PROCESSES THAT NOT DO NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL AND THE EGREGIOUSNESS OF VIOLATIONS OF LAW, VIOLATIONS OF CIVIL RIGHTS.

FEDERAL RIGHTS, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

AND THOSE ARE CAPTURED UNDER DIVISIONAL INQUIRIES.

THOSE ARE THE TWO TYPES OF INVESTIGATIONS WE DO HERE.

LET'S GO THROUGH SOME NUMBERS.

JUST WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN, YOU SEE OUR DISPOSITIONS, THESE DISPOSITION CATEGORIES APPLY BOTH FOR AYAS AND DS DISTAINED MEANS THAT I FOUND IT TO BE TRUE.

NOT SUSTAINED ANYTHING, JUST THAT UNSUPPORTED, UNFOUNDED MEANS WE HAVE PROVED THAT IT DID NOT OCCUR OR FALSIFIED.

EXONERATED MEANS THAT THE OFFICER ONCE INVESTIGATED, APPLIED A POLICY RIGHTEOUSLY.

LET'S GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS.

TWENTY NINETEEN, WE HAD FIVE FORMAL INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS.

OF THOSE THREE WERE SUSTAINX, ONE NOT SUSTAINED.

ONE FOUND IT FOR THOSE THREE SUSTAINX.

I HANDED OUT DISCIPLINE BARIN.

DAYS OF SUSPENSION. TWENTY NINE DIVISIÓN INQUIRIES, WHY? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE ALLEGATIONS OF VIOLATIONS OF GENERAL ORDERS AND PROCEDURE THAN IT IS SERIOUS POLICY VIOLATIONS.

TWENTY EIGHT WERE SUSTAINED, ONE NOT SUSTAINED, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE EQUAL ACCESS, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT JUST A MINUTE BECAUSE WE KEEP THAT METRIC AS WELL.

YOU'RE 20. WE HAD TWENTY TWO FORMAL INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS NOW THE SPIKE WITH THAT ONE IS BECAUSE WE HAD A COUPLE OF CASES THAT ENCUMBERED SEVERAL EMPLOYEES.

SO WE HAD A CASE THAT HAD, I BELIEVE, FIVE EMPLOYEES AND ANOTHER CASE THAT HAD, I BELIEVE, ANOTHER SEVEN, ALL BASED ON ONE CASE.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

AND IN OUR AGENCY, WE DO A FORMAL INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS ON OUR CIVILIANS AS WELL.

THIS IS NOT JUST FOR SWORN OFFICERS.

WE APPLY EQUALLY ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO WHEN YOU'RE 20, 20, WE HAVE 16 SUSTAINED ONE, NOT SUSTAINED, FIVE EXONERATED.

AND 23 SUSTAINED DIVISION INQUIRIES OUT OF TWENTY FIVE, TWO WERE NOT SUSTAINED.

NOW, THIS IS PRETTY INTERESTING.

THIS, I BELIEVE, SPEAKS OF LEADERSHIP AND THE TENACITY OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE HAVE TWO FORMAL INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS.

AND BOTH OF THEM ARE NOT SUSTAINED.

SIX DIVISION INQUIRIES FOR SUSTAINED TO NOT SUSTAINED.

WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE THE YEAR'S END, BUT THAT TREND MAKES ME VERY HAPPY. ALSO IMPORTANT IS CAPTURING THOSE COMPLAINTS, THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS OF BIAS.

ANY COMPLAINT THAT IS BIAS BASED, IN FACT, IT'S CALLED BIAS BASED POLICING, BIAS BASED PROFILING, ANYTHING THAT REFLECTS TO AN ALLEGATION OF BIAS IN TERMS OF GENDER, RACE, ETHNICITY, SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR RESEARCH.

THOSE ARE FORMAL INVESTIGATIONS AS WELL.

AND YOU'RE TWENTY NINETEEN.

WE HAD FOUR. ALL OF THEM INVESTIGATED AND FOUND TO BE UNFOUNDED, AND YOU'RE 2023 ALL

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EQUAL ACCIDENTS IS A METRIC, LIKE I SAID, WE WE ACTUALLY TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY, WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. WHY? BECAUSE OFFICERS SPEND 12 HOURS A DAY IN THEIR OFFICE, THEIR OFFICES, THEIR POLICE CAR, AND WE HAVE A HIGH EXPECTATION THAT THEY FOLLOW THE LAW AS THEY TRAVEL OUR ROADWAYS AS WELL AS WE EXPECT THE PUBLIC TO BE.

AND I'M A RISK MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

DRIVING A VEHICLE IS ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, HIGH RISK THINGS THAT WE MONITOR VERY CAREFULLY. AND YOU'RE TWENTY NINETEEN, WE HAD THIRTY OFFICER INVOLVED ACCIDENTS, MOST OF THOSE WERE PREVENTABLE RE RESULTED IN INJURIES.

YEAR 2020, WE HAD 38 THAT BECAME ALARMING TO ME.

SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WE IMPLEMENTED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRAINING, SO WE GO TO THE WELL AND SAY, HOW CAN WE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? WHY IS THIS CONTINUING TO RISE IN DISCUSSION WITH OUR TRAINING STAFF? SOME EXPERTS, WE CAME UP WITH A DIFFERENT COURSE, A DRIVING COURSE THAT WE APPLIED MANDATORY ACROSS THE BOARD TO ALL OUR EMPLOYEES.

NOW, THAT DRIVING COURSE, WHICH WAS TYPICALLY SURROUNDED AROUND HIGH SPEED, GOING THROUGH CONES, MAKING LEFTS, MAKING RIGHT SHARP, THIS NEW COURSE TOPS OUT, I BELIEVE, AT SEVEN MILES PER HOUR. BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT MOST OF OUR ACCIDENTS WERE SO MINOR.

MAINLY DUE TO ATTENTION, MAINLY LOW SPEED.

SO IT'S NEW COURSE FOCUSES ON JUST THAT LOW SPEED BEING VERY CAREFUL ON THE FINE, THE FINE THINGS THAT WE DO WHEN WE DRIVE.

PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE ESPECIALLY BACKING UP, FOR SOME REASON, A LOT OF OUR FOLKS WERE HITTING STUFF, BACKING UP, WHICH IS BEYOND ME.

SO YOU'RE TWENTY, TWENTY ONE TO DATE WE SIT AT SIX FLAGS, AND THAT TO ME IS A DRASTIC DROP. I THINK OUR TRAINING STAFF ARE TRAINED.

I THINK OUR POLICE OFFICERS WERE TAKEN OWNERSHIP, TAKEN ACCOUNTABILITY, SELF ACCOUNTABILITY TO SEE THAT NO.

EQUAL PURSUITS IS ANOTHER VEHICLE, PURSUITS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE ONLY TIME WE PURSUE IS FOR AN AGGRAVATED FELONY.

AND YOU MAKE A DECISION AS A POLICE OFFICER TO CHASE A CAR TYPICALLY AT HIGH SPEEDS, IT PUTS EVERYBODY ELSE IN DANGER.

SO THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT WE ACTUALLY EMBARK IN THIS TACTIC IS VERY SELECTIVE.

TWENTY NINETEEN TWO VEHICLE PURSUITS IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

AND THIS YEAR, THUS FAR, THREE THAT ALSO SPEAKS THAT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE JUST YOU KNOW, SOMEONE TAKES OFF FROM US AND WAVES GOODBYE AND WE DON'T HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

THAT SPEAKS OF THEIR INVESTIGATIVE CAPACITY.

DO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE? DO WE GET A TAG NUMBER? DO WE HAVE VEHICLES? ALL THIS MAKES US BE BETTER.

MAKES US THINK OUR WAY THROUGH RATHER THAN JUST CHASE DOWN OUR SIDE STREETS 100 MILES AN HOUR AND STILL HOLD THOSE ACCOUNTABLE.

THOSE ARE THE NO. NOW, LASTLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

PERFORMANCE ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A TOPIC THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, SO AND HERE NO DIFFERENT. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THE NARRATIVE.

WHAT WHAT DO YOU DO AS AN AGENCY TO RED FLAG WHEN AN OFFICER IS COMING UP ON SOME ISSUES? YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT OFFICERS LIKE THAT THAT GET IN TROUBLE, THEY OFTEN ASK FOR IT.

YOU'RE NOT SEE THE WARNING SIGNS LEADING UP TO THAT.

AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I ASKED THAT QUESTION. AND OUR AGENCY, WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN ENACTED FOR EASILY 12 YEARS. AND THAT PROGRAM IS AIMED AT ASSESSING AN OFFICER'S ACTIONS AND RED FLAG AND WHEN THEY REACH A CERTAIN THRESHOLD.

NOW, MOST OF THE TIMES THEIR ACTIONS ARE RIGHTEOUS AND WITHIN POLICY.

IT MAY MEAN THAT AN OFFICER IS WORKING A HIGH CRIME AREA FOR A CONCENTRATED PERIOD OF TIME. AND SO HIS INTERACTION WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO RUN FROM HIM TO RESIST HIM OR HER IS HIGHER THAN SOMEONE WORKING IN AN AREA THAT IS LOW IN CRIME AND INTERACTIONS.

SO WE VET THOSE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

ONCE THEY REACHED THE FINAL THRESHOLD, IT FLAGS IT AND WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT EACH INCIDENT AND LOOK FOR COMMONALITIES OF BEHAVIOR, PERFORMANCE, ANYTHING THAT MAKES US SAY WE SEE SOMETHING HERE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.

WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU, RETRAIN YOU AND THEN REDEPLOY YOU.

THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT FLAG DOWN.

AND THE BOTTOM TWO ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT WITHIN 90 DAYS TO RESPOND TO RESISTANCE INCIDENTS WITHIN 90 DAYS, TO TRAFFIC CRASHES WITHIN 90 DAYS AND SO FORTH, DISCIPLINARY ACTION, VEHICLE PURSUITS, LAWSUITS, A CLAIMS. AND ANY COMBINATION OF THREE TARGETED INCIDENTS, ANY ONE OF THOSE TRIGGERS A RESPONSE FROM US AS AN AGENCY, IT MEANS THAT IT'S A WRITTEN IT'S IT'S DOCUMENTED, WRITTEN, SENT DOWN TO A SUPERVISOR.

WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND ASK FOR FEEDBACK.

OUT OF THOSE, WE'VE PUT FOLKS ON PERFORMANCE PLANS.

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SO IN TWENTY NINETEEN THERE, SEVENTY FIVE OFFICERS THAT MET THAT THRESHOLD TO TWO ACTION PLANS WERE ENACTED. 20, 20, 60 OFFICERS, A DECREASE.

ARE THOSE. I DON'T SEE.

NON. NONE.

SO FAR THIS YEAR, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, THEY'LL COME OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT SAYS AND.

SO I JUST I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS TIME, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND THIS PUBLIC FORUM FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THESE METRICS BECAUSE THEY SPEAK VOLUMES. I THINK THEY SPEAK VOLUMES.

I THINK IT PAINTS A PICTURE OF YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HOW IT'S LED AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY AT THE LOWEST LEVEL, WHICH IS WHAT WE EXPECT OFFICERS TO DO, HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE, PERFORM AND PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

CHIEF, I WANT TO SAY.

I'M REALLY IMPRESSED BY THE LEADERSHIP AND YOUR COMMAND STAFF AND HOW YOU DWELL INTO THESE METRICS AND IT.

NOT ONLY DO YOU DRILL INTO THEM, YOU ENCOURAGE YOUR TEAM.

A HIGHER LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE, OF ACCOUNTABILITY, OF TRANSPARENCY, AND YOU WORK THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS AS IT'S ALL A LEARNING PROCESS AND AND IN THAT YOU'RE ELEVATING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE.

I COMMEND YOUR YOUR YOUR STAFF.

EACH AND EVERY LEADER THAT YOU'VE PROMOTED OVER TIME IS WELL EQUIPPED TO CONTINUE THAT LEADERSHIP AND MAKING THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT THE NUMBER ONE AGENCY IN THE COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU, COUNCILOR.

MAYOR JOHNSON, I HATE TO CORRECT MAYOR, BUT YOU MEAN THE NUMBER ONE AGENCY IN THE NATION? I'LL BE THERE THAT I'LL TAKE THAT.

CORRECT, BUT CORRECT.

BUT YOU SPOKE TO LEADERSHIP.

I ONLY HAVE ONE GREAT PRESENTATION, SIR.

I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SO BETWEEN SLIDES 11, 12 AND 13, THAT'S A DRASTIC DROP IN 20, 21 TO GO FROM 20 TO FORMAL INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS TO ONLY TWO ARMY SPOKE TO THE LEADERSHIP.

WAS IT MORE SO MEN AND WOMEN THAT YOU PROMOTED WHEN THEY STEPPED IN, THEY BUCKLE DOWN OR.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF A COUPLE OF THINGS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS I LOOKED AT THIS METRIC AND I ASKED MYSELF THE SAME QUESTION. AND IN THAT TIME, BETWEEN TWENTY, NINETEEN, TWENTY, TWENTY AND TWENTY TWENTY ONE, WE HAVE UPDATE OUR LEADERSHIP TRAINING TO NEARLY EVERY SCHWAN SUPERVISOR IN THE SQUADRON LEVEL AND CIVILIAN LEVEL.

AND SO THAT LEVEL OF TRAINING, WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN TO US, YOU KNOW, IT HAS PAID FOR ITSELF MANY TIMES OVER.

WE HAVE SEEN APPLIED.

YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES YOU SEE SOME SOME TRAINING AND PEOPLE GO THROUGH IT AND GO, OK, YEAH. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE FOUND, THIS PARTICULAR TRAINING, WHICH IS PUT ON BY THE FBI IS ACTUALLY OUT AND I'LL PITCH IT.

IT'S CALLED FBI LEADA THAT OUR OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS AND ABOVE HAVE ATTENDED.

AND WE'VE SEEN THE RESULTS THAT THIS CLASS IS REALLY DOWN TO EARTH.

IT'S REALLY APPLICABLE TO WHAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN DO EVERY DAY IN TERMS OF LEADING THEIR TROOPS. AND I THINK WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE THE DIVIDENDS AND NOT TO DISCOUNT OUR OWN EMPLOYEES PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY.

I THINK WE'RE WE'RE SEEING A PERFECT STORM OF ALL OF IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX AGAIN, I'D SAY THE SAME EXACT THING TO THE TWO GENTLEMEN, TO MY RIGHT JUST SAID, WELL, THIS SPEAKS VOLUME TWO TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND CERTAINLY THE SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, RANK OFFICERS.

IT CERTAINLY SHOW I'VE BEEN HERE OVER WELL OVER 15 YEARS, AND I CAN SEE OVER THE YEARS OF PROGRESS THE OBVIOUS PROGRESS OF OF THIS THIS ENTERPRISE, ALL THINGS CHANGE AND FOR THE BETTER. ONE THING THAT I'VE ALWAYS GOT TO SAY IN TERMS OF BEING REALLY, TRULY AN ADVOCATE ON ON ON THE BEHALF OF MY POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS THAT.

YOU SEE PROGRESS ONCE YOU SEE CONSISTENTLY A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S SEEKING TO BUILD RELATIONSHIP, AND I MEAN, I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN, AND THAT'S A SIGN RIGHT THERE.

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AND ONCE YOU SEE THE PATTERN OF BUILDING RELATIONSHIP.

YOU KNOW, YOU REACHING OUT TO US ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, SO I CAN ALL THE TIME THAT.

HAVING ACCESS TO A CHIEF OF POLICE IN A LOCAL COMMUNITY WASN'T AS EASY, SO AND NOT JUST BECAUSE OF ME PER SAY, I'M AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT I'M JUST SAYING TO ANYONE THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, ANY CITIZEN IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU MADE YOURSELF ACCESSIBLE.

I JUST YOU AND THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES AND NOT ME AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID IT ALL THE TIME AND PRESENTATION LIKE THAT.

GIVE US THE FACT. AND THE MS., AGAIN, YOU KNOW, REINFORCE I YOU KNOW, THE WAY TO TO GO OUT THERE AND SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY IS TRULY HERE ARE THE NUMBERS.

YOU KNOW, THE FACT IS DEPARTMENTS REALLY SERVING AND LOOKING AT ALL BEST INTERESTS.

SHOULD YOU AND YOUR THANK YOU FOR.

I MEAN, FOSTER. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THAT PRESENTATION, BEING A PERSON, THAT WATER UNIFORM AND SERVED WITH 25 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO MY BUSINESS BEING AN EXPERT WITNESS, A LAW ENFORCEMENT CONSULTANT, AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SHOWED ME TODAY, ALL I CAN SAY IS OUTSTANDING.

I HAVE CASES, ATTORNEYS COME TO ME ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND I SEE A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE REALLY NOT DOING A GOOD JOB, AND I HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I LOVE LAW ENFORCEMENT. I LOVE POLICE OFFICERS.

THAT'S MY PROFESSION.

BUT THEY REALLY SOME OF THEM ARE FAILING TO SERVE AND PROTECT.

BUT WHAT I SEE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR DEPARTMENT, IN THE CITY DEPARTMENT.

NO OUTSTANDING MEN AND WOMEN THAT REALLY HONOR THEIR PROFESSION.

ONE THING THAT I NOTICED ABOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, YOU MIGHT AGREE WITH ME, A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENT DON'T HAVE A PURSUIT POLICY.

AM I CORRECT OR A VERY LOOSE ONE? YES, SIR. VERY LOOSE ONE.

AND I LIKE THAT YOU MENTION THIS PURSUIT OF PURSUIT POLICY, BECAUSE SOME OF THE CASES I GET OFFICERS PURSUING A VEHICLE AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE CHASING THIS VEHICLE.

THE PERSON COMMIT A CRIME OR THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PRESCRIPTION. AND I'M GLAD YOU HAVE A PURSUIT POLICY, BECAUSE THAT'S TO KEEP US FROM LIABILITY SUIT.

AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S. ALSO.

I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.

YOU DO ANY SENSITIVITY TRAINING OR AS CULTURAL DIVERSITY TRAINING.

DO YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR IN YOUR TRAINING BIGOTRY? YES, SIR. OK, SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND IF YOU HAVE THAT, IT SHOWS.

SHOWS IN THIS REPORT, I BELIEVE.

THE QUESTION I HAVE.

AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOESN'T DO THIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THE SHERIFF, IT GOT AWAY FROM THIS.

I WISH YOU GO BACK.

YOU ALLOW OUTSIDE AGENCY TO COME IN, INVEST, INVESTIGATE CRITICAL INCIDENTS SUCH AS SHOOTING OR BY OFFICER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

YES, SIR. ANY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING IS INVESTIGATED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND THAT'S A POLICY THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO KEEP, THAT IS A POLICY THAT WE WILL BE KEEPING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WHEN AN INCIDENT LIKE THAT HAPPENS, IT'S BEST TO GET ANOTHER OUTSIDE AGENCY TO INVESTIGATE, TO BE ABOVE BOARD OR ANY SHENANIGANS OR ANYTHING I THINK IS SHOWS A LOT TOWARDS THE DEPARTMENT.

YOUR TRUSTEE. UM.

THAT IS A GREAT PRESENTATION, ALTHOUGH I SOMETIMES REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I NEVER SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS DOING LAW ENFORCEMENT CONSULTING.

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AND PALM BAY, OR OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY, CAME TO ME WITH A COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, I CAN'T SAY ABOUT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN BREVARD COUNTY.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ANY NAMES, BUT THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, I GET COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT USE OF FORCE OR ACTIVE RESISTANCE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND POUVOIR COUNTY AND THE COUNTY.

I GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY WANT ME WANT MY HELP.

I NEVER GET NOT ONE COMPLAINT ABOUT PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING WORK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I'M SURE IF I JUST WANT TO ECHO COUNCILMAN TO SAY WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF YOU, YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT US AND PUT ON A UNIFORM DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, NONE OF THIS IS POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT.

THIS IS YEARS IN THE MAKING.

THIS IS PART OF A LEGACY BUILT BY OTHERS.

I'M HERE TO DO MY PART, BUT TRIBUTE IS TO THOSE MEN AND WOMEN, AS YOU SAY, WHO DO THE WORK. I HAVE THE LUXURY OF PRESENTING IT AS THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT US DAY AND NIGHT THAT ACTUALLY DESERVED THE PRAISE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN. APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, CHIEF, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO SAY TO THAT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WE'RE ON PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. FIRST UP, MR. BILL BATTON. GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS TONIGHT IN PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO ITEM NUMBER ONE.

WHAT CONSTITUTES A GOVERNMENT OF TYRANNY AND WHAT CONSTITUTES A GOVERNMENT OF TYRANNY? I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO ME, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT IS A GOVERNMENT OF TYRANNY FROM MY LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO CAN EITHER LET ME KNOW TONIGHT AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT OR EMAIL OR SOMETHING, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WHAT THAT IS TO YOU.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE, OPEN FILE NUMBER 12, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OUT WHERE I LIVE ON GAYNER ROAD.

WELL, THEY'RE NOT AND GAIN A ROAD, BUT GAIN A ROAD.

THIS IS THE SWELL COMING OFF OF GAYNOR ROAD, WORKING ON THIS WITHOUT PERMITS FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ACCESSING INSTEAD OF ACCESSING OFF THEIR OWN PROPERTY THEY'RE ACCESSING OFF OF GAYNOR ROAD. I MADE THIS PRESENTABLE TO THE BUILDING PERMIT.

AND SURE ENOUGH, THEY SAID, MR BATTEN, YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THEY DID GO AND CORRECT IT.

AND I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE, PLEASE.

BURAK, THERE IT IS AGAIN.

MORE, PLEASE. THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WAS TAKEN A MONTH AGO.

I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT SAME SWIRL NOW, I GUESS THE GRASS IS UP ALMOST TWO FEET HIGH.

I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. WHERE YOU SAW WHERE YOU COULD SEE THE TRAIL GOING DOWN ALONG THE SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND IT'S OVER TWO FEET OF GRASS AND I GO BACK TO ONE PLACE AND MORE.

THAT IS WHERE THEY SUPPOSEDLY PUT IN THE PERMITTING TO KEEP THIS DIRT OUT OF THE SWELLS OR THE PREVENTING THE RUN OFF INTO YOUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, THE TURKEY CREEK AND SO FORTH. ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY ALSO HAVE THE SOUTH SIDE, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THEIR PROPERTY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN AN EXIT.

COULD I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE, PLEASE? I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE. BUT THEY HAVE WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESSING, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN EXIT. THEY DIDN'T DO IT.

THIS IS THE CITY'S PROPERTY ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'RE UNDER THE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

BUT I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE, PLEASE.

BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET PAST THE CITY PROPERTY, THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE LEAVING FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE.

I HAVE ONE MORE, PLEASE.

THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK AT NOW.

MY QUESTION IS THIS IS HOLIDAY BUILDERS THE SAME AS THE PREPARED DEVELOPER THAT'S GETTING READY TO BUILD ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE STREET.

SO AS THIS DEVELOPERS DO, THEY REALLY HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS? OR ARE THEY JUST DOING WHAT THEY WANT AND GETTING AWAY WITH THEM FROM THE CITY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM BROWN.

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I WILL ACTUALLY NEED TO WORK WITH OUR WORKS DIRECTOR AND WITH CHRIS A LITTLE LIKE.

WAS COVERED WITH DIRT, BUT I WOULD GET BACK TO YOU, BILL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU ONE ON ONE AND WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION SO WE CAN HAVE STAFF GRANTED. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I PRONOUNCING INCORRECTLY FIAT, NOBY, NAVY.

MAYOR COUNCILMAN.

MY NAME IS FIRED, NABBY, I'M A NEW RESIDENT, I LIVE AT 17 OR TWO HALLANDALE AVENUE, AND MY VÍA TODAY IS ALMOST THE SAME THING THAT PEOPLE JUST BROUGHT UP.

IF YOU COULD OPEN A FILE, NUMBER 11.

THAT IS MY PROPERTY, THERE WERE THE WOODEN FENCES AND THIS IS THE JUNGLE THAT'S GROWING RIGHT AT THAT SAME PLANT DEVELOPMENT UNIT AT BILGES REFERENCE TO.

NOW, IT'S RIDICULOUS, IT'S OVER SEVEN FEET TALL AND THESE PEOPLE HAVEN'T DONE ANY TAKE AND NOBODY'S HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

AND IN THAT, DURING THE DRY SEASON, IT'S A FIRE HAZARD.

LOOK, IT'S ALL DRYWALL. YOU NEED ONE MATCH TO LIGHT IT UP.

THAT IS ME, SIX FOOT TALL IN A SEA OF TALL GRASSES OR TREES, WHAT WE TO CALL THEM.

THAT IS MY YARD AND THE OTHER IS BELONG TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

ROBINSON, CAN YOU GO ONE BACK? YEAH, THAT ONE. THAT IS YOUR ANSWER, YES, THAT'S MY YARD WHERE I'M STANDING, I'M STANDING IN MY YARD AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BLACK BARRIER BELONGS TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL FLAGPOLE.

OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ARMY. WELL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION AND MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD ADDRESS THIS CIVIL CHARGE. SO MENDHAM BROWN, THIS IS THE SAME.

MR., NABBY, I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU, I JUST GOT YOUR NUMBER FROM THE CARD, SO I'LL REACH OUT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AS TO KENNETH DELGADO.

JEN DELGADO, ONE FIVE FOR ANGELA ROAD, SOUTHEAST IN PALM BAY IN HONOR OF RICHARD SPELLMAN HERE TODAY, JUST TO SHARE A LITTLE HEART FROM THE WORD OF GOD, I CAME TODAY.

THE SUN WAS SHINING.

THERE IS PEACE IN PALM BAY.

CRIME IS DOWN, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THE FOUR ARE WORKING TOGETHER AS ONE UNIT, ALMOST LIKE THERE'S LOVE IN THE AIR.

AND SINCE LOVE IS IN THE AIR, I THOUGHT I'D BRING OUT SCRIPTURE IN EPHESIANS CHAPTER FIVE, WHERE IT SAYS, FOR THIS REASON, SHALL A MAN LEAVE HIS FATHER AND HIS MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.

AND THEN HE SAYS, THIS IS A GREAT MYSTERY BECAUSE I SPEAK CONCERNING CHRIST AND THE CHURCH. MARRIAGE IS A LOVE MESSAGE FROM GOD TO EXPRESS HIS LOVE FOR HIS CREATION, JESUS BEING THE GROOM, THE CHURCH PEOPLE BEING THE BRIDE.

AND IT'S I'M ALWAYS REMINDED OF THE FACT THAT WHEN I MARRIED MY WIFE, EVERYTHING I HAD BECAME HERS AND EVERYTHING SHE HAD WAS HERS TOO.

AND FOR THAT REASON, WE CAN REALLY LOOK AT THIS FOR A MINUTE AND UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING I HAD WHEN I SAID YES TO JESUS CHRIST BECAME HIS MY SIN.

AND HE GAVE ME ALL HE HAD RIGHTEOUSNESS.

WHEN I LACK WISDOM, HE GIVES ME WISDOM.

WHEN I NEED PROVISION, HE SOMEHOW WORKS OUT THE NEED TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING THAT I NEED.

HE IS FAITHFUL, HE IS LOVE, AND HE IS HERE TODAY.

AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT HOW GREAT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN MY WIFE SAYS SHE

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IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR PROVISIONS AND BETTER WAYS TO DO THINGS, WE CAN ASK THAT SAME WISDOM FROM THE ONE WHO SAID, I WANT TO MARRY YOU.

I WANT TO BE YOUR HEAD.

I WANT TO BE YOUR HELPER.

I WANT TO BE YOUR COMFORTER.

I WANT TO BE YOUR HEALER.

I WANT TO BE YOUR PROVISION.

NO MATTER WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED IS SAYING, LISTEN, I WANT TO BE MARRIED TO YOU.

AND THAT'S THE MESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL THAT IN REALITY, GOD IS JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO SAY, I WANT TO HAVE MY CREATION TO JOIN BACK TO THE HILLS, THE ONE WHO CREATED US, AND TO HAVE THAT ONE MS. OF A LOVE RELATIONSHIP WHERE HE CAN HELP US IN EVERY POINT AND AT EVERY NEED.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL. IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

THANK YOU, PASTOR ALFRED.

GARY.

GOOD. GOOD NIGHT, COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR, I'M ALL FOR A GO FROM 60 AND 80 MAIN STREET NE PALM BAY.

BEFORE THAT, I AM A RESIDENT OF THIS CITY SINCE 1985.

AND I AM A TAXPAYER AND I'M A BUSINESS PERSON FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS, I HAVE TWO SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

AND. THIRDLY, I PAID OVER TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR FOR PROPERTY TAX IN THIS CITY. I ENJOY EVERY MOMENT OF IT.

IT'S LIKE FOSTER WAS JUST SAYING ABOUT GOD, WE ALL MUST LOOK AT GOD AND CHERISH GOD, SAY WHAT IS RIGHT, DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

I GOT A LITTLE SITUATION ON ONE OF MY PROPERTY AT NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE, OUR DRIVE.

I HAVE A NEIGHBOR ON 1949.

FORTY DRIVE. I GOT IN A VIOLATION NOTICE OF NUISANCE VEGETATION ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

I WENT AHEAD AND I CLEAN THE PROPERTY LINE.

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I'M IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS FOR ALL THESE YEARS, LAND CLEARING AND FIELD DIRT AND SO ON.

AND I DID THAT WITH THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND I EMPLOYED A CONTRACTOR, A UNIVERSAL CONTRACTING AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE.

IT WAS DONE SATISFACTORY TO US.

I CALL INTO THE COURT ENFORCEMENT BOARD AND MAKE A NOTICE THAT THE PROPERTY WAS IN COMPLIANCE. IT WAS DONE AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS FINE, IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE.

AND WE GOING TO CLOSE THE CASE.

WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN I WENT TO THE COURT WARD ON LAST WEDNESDAY, I WAS TOLD AT THE BOARD THAT THE PROPERTY WASN'T IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE OF A COUPLE OF REASONS ABOUT SOME OF THE TREES AND STUFF.

IT'S BECOME A DISPUTE BECAUSE THE TREES THAT SO DEAR THAT'S LEFT ON THE PROPERTY LINE IS NOT ON MY PROPERTY.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.

AND WE HAVE A CONTEMPLATING, YOU KNOW, LIKE A CIVIL MATTER.

WE'RE SAYING IT'S ON MINE.

AND I'M SAYING IT'S ON IS.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I AM HAVING IS THAT AT THE COURT WARD, A FINE WAS PLACED ON MY PROPERTY AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS DONE FAIRLY BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A DISPUTE OF A PROPERTY LINE, MAYBE A CIVIL MATTER OR SOMETHING, WHY WOULD WE, YOU KNOW, CHARGE WITH A FINE IN THIS TIME WHEN WE HAVE A DISPUTE? AS A CITIZEN, I THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD SOLVE THE DISPUTE FIRST, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET A FINE. BUT I'M JUST SAYING I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN RECOURSE THIS SITUATION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN TREATED FAIRLY BY HAVING A FINE IMPLEMENTED ON ME.

THANK YOU, MR. GORE. MADAM BROWN.

WE HAVE A MEETING WITH MR GARRETT TOMORROW.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THE ADDITIONAL.

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YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO ASK YOU, MR. BATTEN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH AT THE NEXT PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ASKED ABOUT TYRANNY.

AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, TYRANNY'S, WHEN YOU'RE ACTING OR GOVERNING, GOVERNING UNLAWFULLY OR UNETHICALLY.

SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY DEFINITION OF TYRANNY.

SO I DON'T ANSWER THAT.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO RESPOND OR.

ONE OF MY RESPONSES, GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.

ANY PUBLIC ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? OK, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

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PART TWO DRAINAGE PLAN BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS FOR FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND APPEALS PROCESS RELATED THERETO, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OR ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN A CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, DID YOU READ YOUR.

YES, SIR. WHEN I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE NEXT MS. GREEN COLLAR BROWN TO PRESENT THE CASE.

SIR, THE ORDINANCE 21, 20, 21, 52 SEEKS TO MODIFY PROVISIONS OR THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

THIS HAS BEEN AN ITEM THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE COUNCIL REGULARLY UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THE CHANGE IN ELEVATION BETWEEN ONE LAW VERSUS ANOTHER, WHICH CAUSES DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE CITY. OH, THIS IS JUST AN ORDINANCE MODIFICATION TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL ESTABLISH A MINIMUM FLOOR ELEVATION FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES CONNECTED TO CITY SEWER OF TWO FEET ABOVE THE CROWN OF THE ROAD.

IT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY.

HE QUESTIONS FROM STAFF COUNSEL.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEM STEPPED FORWARD A MASSASOIT OR AS YOU WERE, MASASHI.

GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, I REALIZE THAT THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE WAS JUST FOR THOSE 20 PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ABLE TO HOOK UP TO CITY WATER AND CITY SEWER. THERE'S ALSO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SUFFERING UNDER SIMILAR SITUATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE CITY WATER, CITY SEWER.

IN FACT, IT'S ALMOST 80 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT DON'T HAVE THAT. INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE TO THEM, BUT I CAN SPEAK AS IF I WAS HOOKED UP TO IT, I BUILT MY HOUSE ALMOST 34 YEARS AGO.

I BUILT IT ON A PAVED ROAD IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT DETERIORATED TO THE POINT THAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT I LIVED ON A DIRT ROAD, WHICH YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF. LUCKILY NOW I HAVE BEEN PAVED AND SCORED JUST ROAD BACK.

WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THE SECOND YEAR WHERE IT'S TIME FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE TO BE PERFORMED ON IT, WHICH IS NOT IN THE BUDGET.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN THEY PUT THE NEW ROAD IN, THEY ELEVATED THE CROWN OF MY ROAD EIGHT INCHES.

THAT NOW PUT MY RESIDENCE AND WE'RE USING THE CROWN OF THE ROAD, PUT MY RESIDENCE EIGHT INCHES DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHEN I BUILT IT 34 YEARS AGO TO WHAT IT IS NOW, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THAT SAME CROWN OF THAT ROAD OR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME IN FOR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK IT. I JUST WANT TO BE AWARE AND MAKE IT AWARE THAT IT'S THERE IS MORE THAN JUST THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CITY WATER AND CITY SEWER THAT THIS MIGHT BE IMPACTING ON. I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT IT GIVES THE FREEDOM TO THE ENGINEER, CITY ENGINEER WHO CAN ANALYZE IT AND SAY, OK, WE JUST NEED TO SHED THE WATER SIX INCHES FROM POINT A TO POINT B, WE DON'T HAVE TO ELEVATE BASED ON ON SOMETHING ELSE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE SAME GUIDELINES PUT DOWN FOR THE REMAINING 80 PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LOTS COMING IN NOW AND THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE THE SAME SAME PROBLEMS THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONG TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU.

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AND I WILL TALK WITH WHO PEREC, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE CONCERN OF THE ELEVATION OF THE ROAD ONCE IT HAS BEEN.

NO ONE ELSE WISHES TO COME SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM.

STEP FORWARD. ALMOST MR..

OH, I'M NEW HERE AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO MONTHS, EXACTLY UNPRECEDENT, AND I MOVED ON SIXTEEN EIGHTY ONE, WICHITA BOULEVARD EAST AND THE PROBLEM I HAVE UPLAY PLACE.

I'M GLAD TO BE HERE IN A NEW COMMUNITY WHERE I REALLY AM MARRIED.

BUT I GOT A PROBLEM.

I HAVE IS THEY SPEAK.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

SO I THINK THE SPEED LIMIT IS 30, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THEY GO BEYOND IT.

AND A SAD THING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS ON THE STREET.

THE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL.

IT'S A SCHOOL BUS. THEY START THEIR OWN BEB BABCOCK AND ST.

ANSELM, WHICH IS OUACHITA AVENUE SE.

I'M SORRY. AND IT'S DANGEROUS.

NO SIDEWALK. THE BUS STOPS THERE, SIR.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

WE'RE DISCUSSING ANOTHER ITEM, THE ITEM FOR PUBLIC ALSBURY SPEAKING.

I WANT TO COME HERE SO THAT I CAN.

I'M SORRY. YES, SIR.

THE ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT PASSED ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.

OK, SO LET US DISCUSS THIS, OK? AND THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SPEAK REGARDING YOUR ISSUE.

WELL, I'M SORRY, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'M NEW.

NO ONE, SIR. I KNOW I'VE GONE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'VE GONE TO A COUPLE OF PLACES.

PUBLIC WORKS.

NO WORRIES, SIR. WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU CAN COME BACK AND SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, OK? RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, OK? AND WHEN I WHEN I DIDN'T, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO GIVE IT WAS TOWARDS THAT ITEM.

OK, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL WE'LL THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING NOW. OK. OK. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND ANY ONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THE UNION COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE QUESTIONS FROM STAFF OR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR EMOTION.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ON.

IT'S 20, 21, DASH 52 FIRST READING LIKE I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN.

FOSTER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN, I DO I DO THINK MR. BEN BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT LOOKING INTO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, LIKE WE SAID, WE'RE ONLY 40 PERCENT BUILT OUT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO KEEP CHANGING ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT GOING FORWARD.

I DEFINITELY THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE, SIR.

THANK YOU. AND THAT'S A THAT'S A COMMENT THAT I THINK STAFF WILL TAKE AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? JUST WANT TO VERIFY. MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF THE REST OF THE CITY, MR. MARTIN, REFERRED TO 80 PERCENT AND WHICH IS VERY CLOSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THE TIME FOR ASKING STAFF HAS ALREADY PASSED.

WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE COUNTY MAY BE AS FAR AS AREA THAT THAT NO ONE SAW A COUNTY PROVIDE THAT FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION I'VE SEEN.

SO I'M NOT NODDING OVER THERE.

SO I MUST BE CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE IN AN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER MR. BUTTON. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ITEM? GOT MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, AND HE OPPOSED US UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO MAN ADAM SMITH.

YES, SIR. ORTON'S TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH FIFTY THREE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND MANY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185.

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PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK MR. JOHN BROWN TO PRESENT THE CASE.

THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENT, BUT IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY A.

SO ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NONE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SIDE OF.

YINON ALSO A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH FIFTY THREE, FIRST READING, WELL CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WILL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION MOTION, IMPROVE ON ITS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH FIFTY THREE FIRST READING SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? IN NONE, I'M CALLING IT ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER THREE, ADAM SMITH.

JUST AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MANY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 183, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS, SECTION 180 THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION THE ADOPTION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDER SUZANNE CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AN OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM MADAM BROWN, THANK YOU.

THIS AMENDMENT SEEKS TO ACCOMPLISH THE REQUIREMENTS OF HOUSE BILL 59 SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE GOVERNOR ON JULY 1ST, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF COUNSEL, ISN'T THERE? I'M JUST ELABORATING ON ON IT.

SO WHAT IT IS, IS A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY A PROPOSED AMENDMENT ADDING TO IT ALL, LOOKING AT IT.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING REGARDING LONG TERM OR SHORT TERM EFFECTS WITH THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION PUBLICLY TO EITHER MR. MURPHY OR YOURSELF, MA'AM.

SO. I WILL DEFER TO PATRICK MURPHY MURPHY.

STEP FORWARD, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE WATCHING ON TV, MY NAME IS PATRICK MURPHY AND THE ASSISTANT GROWTH MANAGER DIRECTOR.

SO AS MISS BROWN STATED, THERE WAS A VERY ACTIVE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THIS SUMMER AND A LOT OF BILLS GOT PASSED.

ONE OF THE HOUSE HOUSE BILL, 59, STATED THAT ALL MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, CITIES AND COUNTIES MUST PASS THIS ELEMENT INTO THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT. SO IT WASN'T JUST PALM BAY, IT WAS ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

FURTHER, THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY TOOK A STANCE THAT THIS NEEDED TO BE PUT INTO PLACE BEFORE YOU COULD HEAR LARGE SCALE COMPLAINT AMENDMENTS, EITHER CHANGES TO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR PROPERTIES OF 50 ACRES OR MORE, WHICH WAS A NEW MEMET, USED TO BE 10 DOWNSVIEW. SO YOU COULD EITHER DO THAT AT YOUR NEXT AMENDMENT OR YOU COULD DO THAT NOW. WE DECIDED TO DO THAT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVERAL CASES THAT ARE PENDING, COMING TO PLANNING ZONING BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO PUT THIS AMENDMENT IN THERE.

SO FOLLOWING SUIT, WE TOOK THE LANGUAGE, THE FOUR POINTS OF THAT HOUSE BILL, AS ALL THE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE DOING, AND PLACED IT INTO THIS ELEMENT, INTO A SEPARATE ELEMENT, INTO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY WHICH ALL FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENTS WOULD BE JUDGED EACH TIMELINESS.

AND THEN IT COMES THROUGH. THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE ELEMENTS THAT WE EVALUATE THE CRITERIA OF EACH. THIS WILL BE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE EVALUATE.

WE ARE RUNNING THIS THROUGH.

WE'LL BE SENDING THAT TO TALLAHASSEE TOMORROW.

IF YOU SIGN THAT IN THE MORNING OF THE PASSES HERE TONIGHT AND THEN IT GOES TO THE STATE, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO REVIEW THAT AND PROVIDE IN COMMENTS BACK TO THE CITY.

WE WILL THEN BE BRINGING THAT BACK BEFORE COUNCIL FOR A SECOND AND FINAL READING.

THERE'S THEN THERE'S A CHALLENGE PERIOD OF 30 DAYS AFTER THAT PASSES, WE CAN HEAR

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I WOULDN'T BE A FULL 90 DAYS, THEY'RE TELLING US THEY'RE GOING TO TURN THIS AROUND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITHIN THAT 30 DAY PERIOD, THEY HAVE TO REVIEW.

WE WILL GET IT ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH ARE PROBABLY TWO WEEKS AFTER WE HEAR THAT WHEN WE GET OUR ADVERTISEMENTS IN LINE.

AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THAT BACK.

DOES NOT. AND THEN YOU GO BACK TO THE PLANNING ZONE WHERE IT'LL JUST COME BACK HERE FOR A FINAL READING. WE ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO HEAR USE AMENDMENTS BY OUR PLANNING ZONING BOARD FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

WE ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE SCHEDULE READY TO GO.

WE'RE POSSIBLY GOING TO BE DOING TWO THINGS.

ANY WORDS IN NOVEMBER TO HEAR THE CASES RATHER THAN TAKING 20 TO ONE BOARD MEETING AND THEN BRINGING ALL THOSE 20 BEFORE YOU AGAIN AND KEEPING YOU FINE GENTLEMEN HERE TILL ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. SO WE ARE GOING TO ROLL THEM OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN GET THEM, THOUGH. WE'RE MOVING AS FAST AS HEARING NOTICES AND PROCESSES ALLOW US TO MOVE.

THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN, JUST JUST SICK FOR SOME CLARITY OR A YES VOTE TONIGHT BY THIS BOARD WOULD MEANS THAT WE STAY ON SCHEDULE OR ATTEMPT TO STAY ON SCHEDULE OR A NO VOTE WOULD WOULDN'T DELAY BEING ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS FORWARD.

IF COUNCILMAN DENIES THIS ELEMENT, THEN WE CANNOT MAKE ANY LARGE SCALE, CAN'T PUT THEM INTO OUR COMPANY, ANY LAND USE CASES OF 50 ACRES OR MORE OR EVEN ANY CHANGES TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE MUST HAVE THIS PROPERTY ELEMENTS IN OUR PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.

THE STATE WILL NOT ACCEPT THEM IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALL THE CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE GOING TO THAT SAME CRITERIA.

ACTUALLY, ALL THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS AND REBADOW KIND OF REACHED OUT TO EACH OTHER.

AND HOW ARE YOU ADDRESSING? HOW ARE YOU ADDRESSING? THEY'RE ALL KIND OF PUTTING OUT THE SAME LANGUAGE.

SO WE'RE ALL SCRAMBLING TO GET THIS DONE QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AS POSSIBLE.

I'LL BE THERE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I'VE SEEN HIM REMOVE HIS MASK.

YES, SIR. SO SO STATEWIDE, ACROSS ALL MUNICIPALITIES, THIS CAN AFFECT THE GROWTH OF EACH MUNICIPALITY WHEN I'M HEARING.

YES. YES.

THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF A PROPERTY FROM ONE CATEGORY TO ANOTHER.

OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MURPHY. THAN ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

YOU NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A.

MOST OF THE PROOF ON ITS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, DASH 54 FIRST READING.

AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? REAL QUICK, MAYOR, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF AND MR. MURPHY FOR BEING SO QUICK ON THIS, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.

AND I JUST HOPE THE REST OF THE STATE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO THE SAME SO THEY CAN SEE THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, IN A GOOD SITUATION LIKE OURSELVES, I THINK.

BUT THIS IS ALSO AND I'LL SPEAK TO IT LATER.

BUT THIS IS WHY IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO BE INVOLVED NOT JUST IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT STATE GOVERNMENT. SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN COUNCILMAN FOSTER THIS THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS KIND OF SLOWING THE BUSINESS DOWN AND PALM BAY WE NEED TO PASS IT.

I DON'T LIKE I DON'T LIKE THIS BILL WITH THE NINE.

BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT IF WE DON'T PASS, IT STYMIE OUR BUSINESS GROWTH IN THE CITY.

SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR BY ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MADAM SMITH.

THE FOLLOWING ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MA'AM, YES, SIR.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBERS FOUR, FIVE AND SIX.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER ASSIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN AN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL, A STATE HIS OR HER NAME, AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN OUTSOLE TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING A SUBJECT MATTER, THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS

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ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK OR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS WITH A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON HIS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.

AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION, BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S FORTY ONE, A RESOLUTION WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRADDICK ADDITIONAL USE FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL IN OUR OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ZONING, WHICH IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO NAIL STREET NEAR VICINITY NORTH OF EMERSON DRIVE IN LEGALLY DESCRIBED HERE IN.

WRITING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE, REVATHI, FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH A SITE PLAN PROVIDED FOR A COMMITMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD AND PRESENT THIS CASE.

YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. RIGHT, MR. RUN BY MY WIFE, I THINK HE HAD SIGNED AS WELL, SHE ADDS TO THE MIKE MS. I'M SORRY, IS MY WIFE.

SHE'S A PART OF THIS AND SHE ALLOWED.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SHE REPRESENTS YOU.

YES, SHE DOES. AS HE SAID, WE'RE ONE.

SO. THAT'S RIGHT.

AND WE'RE ABOUT TO BECOME THREE HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR LAST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND CITY COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR.

IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.

WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF WANTING TO ALLOW A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR CHURCH FACILITIES. AND IT WOULD BE A RENTAL SITUATION.

AND THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH THE CITY TO END ZONING AND PLANNING TO ALLOW THEM TO ACCESS OUR BUILDING.

AND I BELIEVE IN CHRISTIAN EDUCATION.

I ALWAYS HAVE. I THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I'M IN MINISTRY TODAY IS BECAUSE OF CHRISTIAN EDUCATION. AND SO BEING ABLE TO ALLOW KIDS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT GOD AND IN OUR FACILITIES AS I THINK A VERY POSITIVE THING.

AND MY WIFE WOULD BE SHE HAD ACCESS TO A SCHOOL UP IN APOPKA WHERE I WAS PASTORING BEFORE I CAME DOWN TO THE AREA A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.

AND THEY HAD STARTED A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL THERE AMONG A COUPLE OTHER AREAS IN THE STATE.

AND SHE WAS WORKING WITH THEM AS AN ART TEACHER, THEN A MATH TEACHER.

AND IT EVOLVED INTO EVEN MORE SO WHEN WE MOVED DOWN HERE WHERE THEY SAID, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO START A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL DOWN THERE AT YOUR FACILITIES, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LEAD THE CHARGE ON THAT? AND SO SHE OBVIOUSLY WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND SO I'M GOING TO PASS IT OFF TO HER AT THIS TIME TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. HI, MY NAME IS ABIGAIL ADAMS, I'M CHRIS ADAMS WIFE, OBVIOUSLY, HOWEVER, WE WHILE WE DO VERY FULLY PLEASE DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND US, WE DO FULLY SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM WE BELIEVE IN.

AND WE KNOW THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN.

WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT CHILDREN LEARN AND DIFFERENT AVENUES AND THAT EACH CHILD IS UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.

AND GIVING THEM THIS A DIFFERENT AVENUE TO PURSUE THEIR LEARNING STYLES REALLY CAN HELP THEM A LOT.

I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS.

I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN.

I'VE WATCHED THE EVIDENCE OF IT, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BRING THIS TO PALM BAY RIGHT NOW. WE JUST NEED THAT CONDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE PER PERMIT APPLICATION FOR IT.

WE JUST NEED THAT APPROVED SO THAT WE, THE SCHOOL, CAN OPERATE WITHIN THE CHURCH'S BUILDING AND THE CHURCH BUILDING.

SO. MY QUESTION IS, HOW ELSE WOULD HE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY QUESTION, BECAUSE I SEE THE STAFF'S CONDITIONS, YOU DO AGREE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ADA ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALK? YES. YES. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL TO THE CITY.

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SO THE WAY THAT THE SCHOOL IS OPERATED, IT IT'S ABLE TO BE PUT UP AND TORN DOWN ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO IT'S USED WITHIN THIS THE CHURCH'S FACILITIES WITHOUT INTERRUPTING OR INHIBITING ANY OF THE ACTUAL CHURCH ACTIVITIES.

SO IT OPERATES DURING THE DAYTIME AS A SCHOOL AND THE NIGHT IT WORKS AS A NORMAL CHURCH.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. BUT YOU DO HAVE BRICK AND MORTAR THERE TODAY, RIGHT? IF THERE'S A YES, RIGHT HERE AT NALE STREET, WHICH I ALWAYS FOUND INTERESTING, A CHURCH ON NALE STREET. YES, I MADE A COMMENT TO THAT TWO OF OUR OF OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

I ALWAYS FOUND THAT INTERESTING, BUT THAT IS AN EXISTING CHURCH THERE.

IT'S IN A IT HAS A CIRCULAR DRIVE, SO TO SPEAK.

SO TRAFFIC'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPEDE TRAFFIC ON THE MAIN TOWN OF EMERSON.

SO I DID TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT UP TEMPORARILY, SO TO SPEAK.

BUT THERE'S BRICK AND MORTAR THERE.

BUT, YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE CHURCH HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER 35 YEARS.

I BELIEVE SO.

OK, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU.

THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM OK.

THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION IN TWENTY ONE DASH 41 TO INCLUDE STAFF FOLLOWING CONDITIONS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ADA ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALK.

I CAN I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IN MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN? DISCUSSION. YOU NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS UNANIMOUSLY WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

REGULATION.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE COOPERATIVE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE IMS SOFTWARE APPLICATION.

THIS IS A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT OR A AN ONLINE PORTAL FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS TO UTILIZE. OH, THAT'S NOT ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THAT'S.

AS YOU WERE, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS KHWAJA JUDICIAL THOMASIN AND MICHELLE CAPRETTO.

REVEREND. AS.

AS YOU WERE. ITEM FIVE.

JAMES AND NOLA MUSGROVE.

AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THIS CASE.

HI, I'M SURE.

SORRY, UM.

GOOD EVENING, MY NAME'S NOLA MUSGROVE, 278 HIGH ROAD NORTHWEST.

MY HUSBAND AND I ARE LOOKING TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON OUR BACK.

LIKE WE SAID ON POINT FOR SIX ACRES, OUR HOUSE IS NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN SQUARE FOOT UNDER ER.

SO WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING BIGGER THAN NINE NINETY SIX WITH THE GARAGE AND THE PORCH.

OUR MAIN HOUSE IS 13 17 SQUARE FOOT.

WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD TWELVE HUNDRED ON THE.

UNIT ON THE BACK, THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, PART OF THE CODE, WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING OVER 996 BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO BIGGER THAN THE MAIN HOUSE WE ARE LOOKING, WHICH THERE IS AN ERROR ON THIS.

IT IS NOT 900 SQUARE FOOT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR SQUARE FOOT BECAUSE PER THE CODE.

IF THE PULL UP HERE.

IF THE ZONING DISTRICTS YOU CANNOT BUILD OVER 300 SQUARE FOOT FOR A METAL STRUCTURE UNLESS THE STRUCTURE IS DESIGNED TO SIMULATE NONMETAL, CONSTRUCTION IS TREATED WITH TEXTURE COATING ON ALL FOUR SIDES OR IS PAINTED TO MATCH THE COLOR SCHEME OF THE PRIMARY

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WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE.

PHOTOS OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO IT WILL MATCH OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE, SO IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR NINE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT AS IT READS ON THE REQUEST.

THREE HUNDRED. TWELVE HUNDRED.

IT'S ACTUALLY NINE NINETY SIX TO TWELVE HUNDRED, WHICH IS TWO HUNDRED.

FOUR SQUARE FOOT. WE IT WAS PART OF A PLANNING AND ZONING, IF WE WOULD FENCE IT, IN WHICH WE WILL CURRENTLY OUR FRONT LAWN IS FENCED IN ALL THE WAY AROUND.

WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THAT UP AND FENCE EVERYTHING.

AND SO IT IS COHESIVE NOW FOR THE CODE WE CAN GO 996 AND TWENTY FOUR FOOT HIGH, WHICH IS A TWO STOREY BUILDING.

I REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO TO STORIES WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS A SINGLE STORY AROUND US. I DON'T WANT NOT VERY HYSTERICALLY PLEASING TO THE EYE, BUT IF I HAVE TO FOLLOW CODE AND CAN'T GET TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR SQUARE FOOT WE'LL HAVE TO GO TWENTY FOUR FOOT HIGH TO MAKE ENOUGH ROOM.

WE HAVE A PONTOON BOAT, AN AIRBOAT AND THREE VEHICLES AND A SINGLE CAR CRASH.

SO NOTHING HAS SHELTER DURING ANY KIND OF STORM SURGE.

JUST TRYING TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING UNDER SHELTER DURING STORMS. QUESTIONS. SO MAY I HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, THE.

YOU CAN'T GO, YOU CAN'T BUILD.

LARGER THAN WHAT YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE IS IN YOUR MAIN HOUSE UNDER AIR AND THE AIR, WHICH IS NINE NINETY SEVEN POINT NINETY SEVEN, NINE NINETY SEVEN, YES.

OK, SO IN THE NINETEEN NINETY SEVEN, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT WANTING TO BUILD ANOTHER 12 HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO NINE NINETY SIX.

NO, WE CAN GO NINE NINETY SIX.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO TWELVE HUNDRED TO GIVE US JUST THAT LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO BE ABLE TO FIT TWO BOATS, JEEP TRUCK ALL IN THERE BECAUSE 996 SIX IS THAT ENOUGH ROOM.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST GO TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT WHICH IS TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR SQUARE BIGGER THAN WHAT CODE ALLOWS.

AND YOU SEE THAT TWELVE HUNDRED IS LARGER THAN WHAT'S ON THE AIR, CORRECT, WHICH IS WHAT THE VARIANCE IS FOR.

OK, THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. SPEAK BECAUSE THE FEMALE MR. BILLION. ALBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, LAND OWNER, RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL, VERY DEAR AND NEAR TO MY HEART.

WELL, THIS PERSON HAS THEIR LAND.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN SMALL, LIKE THEY'RE DOUBLE LOT.

THEY'RE BIGGER THAN 90 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THEY HAPPEN TO OWN A SMALL HOME.

AND BECAUSE OF ORDINANCES WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE A BIG GARAGE AS ONE OR MORE OF THOSE TIME FOR, I SAY WHAT'S KIND OF FOOLISH? HOW WE WRITE OUR ORDINANCE, BECAUSE ONE STAMP DOES NOT FIT EVERY SITUATION.

AND THIS IS THE CASE FOR THEY HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY PROJECTS THAT THEY STILL NEED TO PROTECT, BUT THEY OWN A SMALL HOME.

YET WE'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO START GOING SMALL HOMES.

CAN YOU IMAGINE THE PEOPLE THAT BUILD A 300 FOOT SMALL HOMES, BUT THEY HAVE THREE BOATS.

WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? THIS IS A CASE WHERE YOUR ORDINANCE DOES NOT FIT THE SITUATION. I THINK THEY'RE 100 PERCENT RIGHT FOR REQUESTING A VARIANCE ON THIS.

AND YOU JUST PASSED UNDER PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER THREE, PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. THIS IS THE PERFECT CASE OF WHERE WE HAVE THAT.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL.

RESPECT WHAT YOU JUST PASSED RANDOM THEIR THEIR REQUEST FOR A BIGGER GARAGE THAN THEY HAVE OR THEIR FLOOR SPACE.

THE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS THEY COULD OPEN UP THE DUCK FENCE AND AN AIR CONDITIONED THEIR GARAGE THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.

THEN IT WOULD ALSO BE UNDER UNDER AIR.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO START PLAYING STUPID GAMES LIKE THIS JUST TO MEET THE ORDINANCE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I RESPECT THAT.

RESPECT THE LAND RIGHTS OF THE OWNERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARD'S.

AND SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WANTED TO ELABORATE ON ANYTHING, I DO SEE THEIR FOLLOWING CONDITION FOR THE VARIANCE. ONE ONE EIGHT FIVE POINT ONE ONE EIGHT G.

DEFERRED TO ACTING GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR PATRICK MURPHY.

MURPHY. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

THE SPANISH REQUEST IS FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO BE LARGER THAN THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, THE PRINCIPAL USE IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS SINGLE FAMILY.

IT'S THE HOME. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE DOMINANT STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY.

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SMALLER AND SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN THE OCCUPIABLE SPACE OF THE HOME.

SO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THEY WANT TO BUILD IS TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

THE HOME IS LESS THAN THAT.

THAT NECESSITATES THE VARIANCE.

THE CONDITION ON HERE IS THAT WHEN THE IF THE STRUCTURE IS APPROVED AND GETS PERMITTED, THAT IT IS EITHER COVERED IN A MATERIAL OTHER THAN METAL OR PAINTED TO MATCH THE BUILDING SO THAT IT WOULD BLEND INTO IT.

THAT'S A CONDITION OF HAVING A METAL BUILDING BIGGER THAN 300 SQUARE FEET.

SO IF THIS WAS TO BE APPROVED, THAT IS THE CONDITION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE.

THEREFORE, THE ONLY VARIANCE YOU WOULD NEED IS TO EXCEED EXISTING STRUCTURES, SIZE BEING BIGGER THAN PRINCIPLE AND LISTENING TO THE APPLICANT'S.

SHE DID SAY THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE METAL AND IN THE SAME COLOR.

YES, CORRECT. SO SHE SAID, YES, YES.

WE WOULD JUST LIKE THAT IF THAT GETS A PASS, THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF THE APPROVAL. SO IT'S IN THE FINAL ORDER.

SO IF THE HOMEOWNER SELLS THIS PROPERTY TO ANOTHER PARTY AND THEY COME IN AND PAINT THE SHED BRIGHT ORANGE, THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE.

SO HAVING THAT CONDITION IN THE FINAL ORDER THEN RUNS WITH THE LAND.

SO ALTHOUGH THE CURRENT OWNER HAS GREAT INTENTIONS, WE DON'T KNOW WHO PASSED THE PROPERTY ON TO THAT WOULD THEN SUCCEED THE LIFE OF THE OWNER AND BE IN PLACE AND RUN WITH THE LAND. YES, SIR.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCILMAN FOSTER STAINFORTH, SIR, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE OR DENY THIS MOTION? EXCUSE ME, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE OR DENY THIS.

THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS STAFF TYPICALLY DOES NOT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON VARIANTS, WE PRESENT THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND LEAVE THAT TO THE BOARD AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU, SIR.

IF I COUNCILWOMAN FELIX JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.

SO WHICHEVER DIRECTION WE GO, I MEAN, THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL AND SHOULD WE SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS? WE SETTING UP A PRECEDENT.

AND LET ME SAY, I, I SUPPORT THE MOTION.

I SUPPORT WHAT'S PRESENTED TO US.

I TRULY BELIEVE, AS BILL BRATTON SAID, I DO BELIEVE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS.

I MEAN, AS A HOMEOWNER, YOU PURCHASE YOUR PROPERTY.

THE LAND IS A SIZABLE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT RULE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE, COMPARING STRUCTURE STRUCTURE WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE OWNER ER SIZE 13, 17.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR 12.

SO IF YOU STAND OUTSIDE JUST LOOKING AT BOTH BUILDINGS, IT'S IT'S A NEW STRUCTURE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY BIGGER. SO IT'S SOMEWHAT I GET WHY IT'S WRITTEN THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I WOULD, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE REVISIT AT A LATER TIME IN TERMS OF AS WE SETTING A PRECEDENT TONIGHT.

WE MAY, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, MAYBE MAKE AN AMENDMENT OR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW.

IT'S A CASE THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS IT APPROPRIATELY, SO THAT'S ALLOWED ME I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF IT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCILMAN FELIX YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING ABOUT CLEANING UP OUR ORDINANCES IN THAT REGARD. I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT.

THERE ARE PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUES HERE.

AND I THINK IT WAS SO ELOQUENTLY PUT BY A SENIOR CHIEF.

RIGHT, THAT OUR MASTER CHIEF, THAT IF THEY PUT THEIR GARAGE ON THE AIR, THEN THEY THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR IT.

RIGHT. IT WOULD BE THEM HAVING TO ADD MORE EXPENSE.

AND IT IS A PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE.

SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

COUNCILMAN, FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? OR FROM THE APPLICANT COUNCILMAN.

NO SPEAK ACCORDS, NO ADDITIONAL CARDS, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAINING EMOTION, MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY JAMES AND NOLAN MUSGROVE FOR FORBEARANCE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED DETACHED MIDDLE RIGHT RELIEF FROM THE REQUIREMENT THAT NO ASSESSOR STRUCTURE SHALL EXCEED THE SIZE OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURES LIVING AREA TO INCLUDE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? AND NONE OF THEM FAVOR HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

WHEN I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

I'M A SAM MICHALKA, PREETA.

I'M TOM CAPRETTO, LIVE AT 921 MANDARIN DRIVE IN PALM BAY.

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AND, YOU KNOW, THEY PASSED AWAY AUGUST 4TH AND.

OR BEFORE AUGUST 4TH, ANYONE WANTED TO THROW THAT IN? I'M LOOKING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 12 FEET TO THE FRONT OF MY GARAGE.

SO THAT I, I RESTORE OLD VEHICLES AND BOATS AND STUFF, AND I JUST USED ANOTHER STALL, THE GARAGE, THE HOUSE WILL NOT CHANGE THE LOOK AT ALL.

IT WILL JUST GO A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE TO THE ROAD.

THE DOORS FACE THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE I'M LOOKING TO.

EXCEED THE EASEMENT BY SIX FEET ON ONE SIDE AND THREE FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE WHOLE HOUSE, EVEN WHEN IT'S FINISHED WITH THE GARAGE, IS STILL GOING TO BE BEHIND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. IT'S JUST SO HAPPENS THAT MY ROAD CURVES A LITTLE BIT KIND OF THROWS AT ALL.

SO THE HOUSE WILL LOOK IDENTICAL.

SAME MATERIALS.

IT'S A CEDAR HOUSE.

I. I'VE BEEN APPROVED BY PENNSY, I'VE BEEN APPROVED BY MY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, I'VE BEEN APPROVED BY ALL MY NEIGHBORS.

YES, THAT YOU APPROVE MY URGENT REQUEST.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT COUNSEL? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING YOUR CASE IN.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNSEL? ANY SPEAKER CARD? WELL, CNN, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE REQUEST BY THOMAS MICHEL CAPRETTO FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED GARAGED EDITION AND CONCRETE SLAB TO ENCROACH SIX FEET.

IT'S A 25 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK IN ARTIST TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YOU NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

I ECES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW MADAM BROWN ON ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE PROCUREMENT.

[PROCUREMENT]

THIS IS A AN APPLICATION, A TOOL THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO GO ONLINE FOR SUBMITTALS FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DEPARTMENTS.

THIS THE SOFTWARE IS A SHARED COST BY BOTH THE BUILDING ENTERPRISE FUND AND THE GENERAL FUND BUILDING ENTERPRISE FUND IS KIND OF DRIVING THE BUS ON THIS.

AT THIS POINT. THEY HAVE A MORE URGENT NEED.

SO THEY HAVE TAKEN THE LIBERTY TO WORK WITH OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR AND REACH OUT TO VARIOUS VENDORS DOING A KIND OF A VIRTUAL TOUR, IF YOU WILL, OF THE VARIOUS SOFTWARE IS OUT THERE. THE THE SOFTWARE THAT THEY HAVE SETTLED ON IS IBM'S SOFTWARE CONTRACT AGREEMENT DOCUMENT ALSO INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT WOULD PROTECT THE CITY'S INVESTMENT, IN PART BY PROVIDING A PAYMENT SCHEDULE BROKEN DOWN INTO FOUR PAYMENTS, ONLY FIVE PERCENT EACH, ALL TIED TO SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES.

A PAY IF YOU GO PAY AS YOU GO, IF YOU WILL.

AND THE TOTAL COST FOR THE ITEMS SOFTWARE IS FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY SIX THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE VERSIONS OF THE SOFTWARE, AS I MENTIONED, WOULD BE USED BY BOTH GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS AND THE BUILDING ENTERPRISE FUND.

BREAKDOWN OF THAT COST BUILDING ENTERPRISE FUND PICKS UP THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE.

AND THE GENERAL FUND SIDE OF THAT FOR THE OTHER VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS IS TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT.

THAT IS, STAFFS ASK FROM UNDESIGNATED.

ON BALANCE, THE REASON FOR THE HE ASKED TO BRING FORTH THIS APPLICATION FOR ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AT THIS TIME IS IT IS ACTUALLY MORE COST FEASIBLE FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THE SOFTWARE CITYWIDE THAN IT WOULD BE FOR US TO IMPLEMENT IT IN PIECES, HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I THINK THIS BRINGS OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT SORT OF LIKE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE I KNOW THIS COUNCIL CAME ON ON THE DAY IS SO THIS IS THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.

AND THEN TO HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS BE ABLE TO TAP INTO IT, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOTEWORTHY TO MENTION AS WELL.

SO. YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR FOR PRESENTING THAT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SPEAKER CALLED.

YES. MR. BILL BURTON.

GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

AND I LOOK AT FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S ABOUT THE

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HOWEVER, I LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE JUST PREVIOUSLY SPENT FIVE HUNDRED NINETEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS OR A THREE YEAR SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT DID NOT WORK OR LET'S JUST SAY NONPERFORMANCE EXPECTED PERFORMANCE.

BUT THAT WAS A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WE SPENT THAT DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH THE OBJECTIVE ONE MORE TIME. THAT WOULD HAVE PAID FOR A LOT OF STUFF WITHIN THE CITY.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING WITH A NEW COMPANY, NEW SOFTWARE SET UP.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A TRY.

I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS.

BUT WITH THIS NEW CONTRACT CURRENTLY, WILL IT WORK WITH OUR CURRENT HARDWARE? BECAUSE OUR HARDWARE AND SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS IS JUST AS OLD, OR DOES THAT MEAN WE NOW HAVE TO START BUYING ALL NEW HARDWARE TO CONSULT WITH OUR SOFTWARE MATCH? SO. IF IT'S THE COST OF THE SOFTWARE OF ONLY FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS, OR IS IT THE COST OF FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS, PLUS ALL THE NEW HARDWARE AND UPGRADING OF ALL THE SOFTWARE THROUGHOUT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE THAT ARE ON THE OLDER SYSTEMS? IT COULD BE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN JUST FIVE HUNDRED K, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE JUST WASTED FIVE HUNDRED K.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KNOW, MASTER CHIEF, I GOT TO TELL YOU, I SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION OVER THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE THE OTHER COMPANY WAS NONPERFORMING AND THAT WAS SO FRUSTRATING FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. RIGHT.

BUT I WANT TO SHARE AND I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO TO COME UP AND ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS I WANT TO SHARE.

IT TOOK A LOT OF VETTING AND A LOT OF HARD WORK TO GET TO TO THIS COMPANY.

BUT AND BROWN HUMAN ADDRESSES THESE CONCERNS.

AND I THINK THAT'S FAIR QUESTIONS.

I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK IF BRIAN ROBINSON OR ITS DIRECTOR CAN COME UP AND ADDRESS THE KIND OF THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT AND WHY ARE WHY THE VENDOR WAS UNABLE TO PERFORM AS WELL AS WHETHER THE SOFTWARE WILL WORK WITH OUR CURRENT HARDWARE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS BRIAN ROBINSON, 19, DIRECTOR.

HISTORICALLY, WE CALL IT THE STORY OF THE OTHER SOFTWARE.

WE'VE ACTUALLY I WOULD SAY THAT WE INHERITED THE APPLICATION MYSELF AND WE ALL TRY TO WORK WITH THE VENDOR.

WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS FROM AN EXECUTIVE STANDPOINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD CREATE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY, BRING THEM BACK ON TRACK.

HOWEVER, WE FOUND THAT HOW THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT WAS WRITTEN DIDN'T HAVE ANY MILESTONE BUILT IN THAT DIDN'T REALLY GIVE US ANY TEETH PER SAY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO BACK AND HOLD THEM AND SAY, HEY, THAT YOU WERE ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT COMING THROUGH ON THESE DELIVERABLES BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DELIVERABLES THERE.

SO HENCE THE NEW CONTRACT IS WRITTEN, THE WAY IS WRITTEN TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE MILESTONES AND THEIR PAYMENT IS TIED TO PERFORMANCE TO ADDRESS THE PAST ISSUES.

SO SOME LESSONS LEARNED THERE.

FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE WERE ROLLING OUT, WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE FUNDAMENTAL THINGS WRONG WITH THE APPLICATION.

ONE THING WOULD BE FIXED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE BREAK.

AND THIS WAS JUST MOVING TOWARDS A GO LIVE.

AND EVEN WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL GOAL LIVES THAT WE HAVE TO CANCEL BECAUSE WE COULD NOT HAVE A FULLY FUNCTIONING SYSTEM.

AND SO WE HAD TO STOP AT SOME POINT.

SO MOVING FORWARD, THIS APPLICATION IS BUILT THE WAY IT IS.

IT IS ACTUALLY A MODERN APPLICATION.

IT IS GOING TO BE HOUSED IN THE CLOUD.

SO TO MR. BILL BATTEN'S QUESTION THERE, IT WILL NOT COMPLETELY INTERACT WITH PHYSICAL HARDWARE THAT'S GOING TO BE SET UP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S THE THE REASON WHY THE COST IS THE COST.

LIKE YOU SAID, THE COST WILL BE A LOT MORE IF WE HAVE TO DO SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A MORE COST EFFECTIVE ROUTE TO GO FOR THE CITY AS WELL IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND SECURITY, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE TOP PRIORITY FOR US.

WE ALSO ANTICIPATE GROWTH.

SO STORAGE IS GOING TO BE A VERY BIG FACTOR IN ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THE PLAN REVIEWS THAT TAKE PLACE, THE PERMITS THAT COME IN.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ANTICIPATED GROWTH OF THE CITY.

SO WE WOULDN'T WANT TO CONTINUALLY HOUSE THAT ON SITE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. SO IT WILL BE MORE OR LESS BE BACK HERE FOR EXPANSION FROM A PHYSICAL OR HARDWARE STANDPOINT FOR STORAGE.

SO WE'RE KIND OF PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, MAKING SURE THIS IS BUILT OUT TO HANDLE IT AS WELL. SO THE OTHER PORTION IS, YOU KNOW, HOW THE INTERACTION OR THE MODERNIZATION OF THE APPLICATION, IT IS A MODERN PRODUCT, HAS A LOT OF CUSTOMIZATION BUILT IN AND THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE SET UP CURRENTLY.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT'S BEEN LONG OVERDUE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FEEL ALMOST LIKE THE TICKET, ANY ADDITIONAL? YES, MA'AM, NO QUESTION.

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I MYSELF AND YOU WERE NEW TO OUR POSITIONS WHEN THIS CAME ABOUT IN 2019 OR SO, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. SO THIS I'M EXCITED.

I'M EXCITED. AND I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EVERYTHING GETTING THIS DONE. AND HERE WE ARE.

SO I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS LEADERSHIP AND A LOT OF SLEEPLESS NIGHTS FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. YEAH. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THIS FOR YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OK, THEN I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT ALLOCATING FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY SIX THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE DOLLARS TO PURCHASE THE APPLICATION IN THE USE OF THE OMNIA PARTNER CONTRACT DASH TWO ZERO ONE EIGHT ZERO ONE ONE DASH TO.

I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING TO MIKE COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, AS IS UNANIMOUSLY COUNSEL, IF IF YOU WOULD JUST ALLOW ME TO INDULGE, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE BACK, WE'RE ON COUNSEL REPORTS AND WE'LL START OFF WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX.

[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]

SO THIS WEEK'S BEEN STARTING LAST WEEK, ACTUALLY THIS WEEKEND, BEEN A HARD WEEK FOR ME, WERE IN ORLANDO WHEN I BELIEVE YOUR DEPUTY MAYOR BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION EARLY MORNING WERE IN. I'M SORT OF CESSION BECAUSE WE HAD A BUSY WEEKEND AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE NEWS, MY HOMELAND WHERE I WAS BORN.

PARTICULAR AREA OF HAITI WAS WAS HIT BY AN EARTHQUAKE OF A MAGNITUDE OF SEVEN POINT TWO, PARTICULARLY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA WAS WHERE MY FAMILY.

FROM THERE, I GOT FIRST COUSINS, MANY FIRST COUSINS AND AUNT AND UNCLE THAT LIVES THERE.

BUT THANK GOD, I MEAN, EVERYBODY IS FINE.

BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT HURTS TO THE CORE.

I ENJOY THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE IN THIS STATE, IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THAT OPENED THE DOOR FOR ME AND AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE PRIVILEGE TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY STILL REMAIN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, I BELIEVE.

BUT IT HURTS DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THIS IS HOME, IN ESSENCE, WHERE I SPENT THE FIRST 19 YEARS OF MY LIFE.

SO IT'S BEEN HARD IF WE ARE PUTTING SOME EFFORT PERSONALLY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT AM I ASKING TO THE GREAT CITIZENS OF PALM BAY, IF YOU CAN DO IT, WHATEVER CAPACITY HELP OUT, IF YOU CAN BE CAREFUL OF WHICH ORGANIZATION YOU DONATE TO YOUR RESEARCH.

CERTAINLY, IF YOU WISH TO TO HOW WE DO THE CITY DO ADMINISTER ON FOUNDATION, IT'S A SEPARATE ENTITY.

IT'S THE PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FUND.

YOU CERTAINLY CAN DONATE TOWARDS THAT AND ANYTHING YOU CAN ALLOCATE YOUR YOUR YOUR DONATION TO THIS PARTICULAR TO THIS PARTICULAR CRISIS.

SO IF YOU CAN HELP, IT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND ALSO CERTAINLY KEEP THE PEOPLE OF HAITI IN YOUR PRAYERS.

AND THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT CATCH A BREAK FOR THE LAST 30 PLUS YEARS.

IT'S CRISIS AFTER CRISIS AFTER CRISIS.

SO ANY HELP? GREATLY APPRECIATED.

CERTAINLY YOUR PRAYERS AS WELL.

SO MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX, I GOT TO SHARING YOUR SENTIMENT WITH THE PEOPLE OF HAITI, INASMUCH AS EVEN IN 2010 IT JUST BROUGHT BACK HORRIBLE MEMORIES FROM FROM 2010.

FOR ME, AS YOU KNOW, WE WE WERE ON OUR OWN ON THIS DAY DAYS.

WE WEREN'T ON THESE DAYS.

BUT YOU AND I WORKED CLOSELY TOGETHER TO HELP THE PEOPLE THERE IN.

AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THERE WAS SO MUCH THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FROM THAT ASPECT AND SOMEHOW THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEEDED IT BACK IN 2010 AND LEADING UP TO NOW, THOSE THOSE THINGS, THOSE ISSUES OF WAR WERE AN ACCOMPLISHED THING.

AND THAT THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS DEVASTATING.

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ALONG WITH THAT, THERE ARE SOME GOOD FOUNDATIONS OUT THERE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT CALVARY CHAPEL OF MELBOURNE AS AN EXAMPLE, AND THERE'S SO MANY THAT THAT ARE WORKING TOWARDS PROVIDING AID FOR THE PEOPLE OF HAITI.

AND I'M I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY WHERE THE LOCAL CHURCHES, LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT REALLY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO TO THE RELIEF EFFORT.

MARY, IF I MAY ADD, WORKING WITH A FIRE STATION AND THE EFFORT AT YOU GUYS MAY IMAGINE I WEAR MULTIPLE HATS.

ONE OF THEM IS STILL LEADING A LOCAL ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS THE HAITIAN AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF BOVARD, WHICH I'M STILL CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT.

SO WE ARE ADVOCATING EFFORT WORKING WITH OUR FIRE STATION.

SO AS OF SATURDAY, EVERY SINGLE FIRE STATION IN OUR CITY WILL HAVE BE A DROP OFF STATION.

SO IF YOU CAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THE THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL RIGHT NOW, MEDICAL SUPPLIES, MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, TARPS, TENTS, YOU KNOW, TOILETRIES, THINGS LIKE THAT OF THAT NATURE. NO FOOD ITEM, NO PERISHABLE, NONE WHATSOEVER.

SO BUT ANYTHING MEDICAL WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

CERTAINLY MONEY AS WELL TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING TOWARDS RENDERING THAT THAT AID TO TO THE DEVASTATING PEOPLE OF HAITI, BUT MOREOVER, MAKING SURE THAT IT GETS TO THE PEOPLE THAT THAT TRULY NEED IT. RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YEAH, I DON'T LIKE TO SAY MAYOR HAD A GREAT TIME AT THE FLORIDA LIGAS CITY CONFERENCE AND IT WAS WELL WORTH GOING TO.

I LEARNED A LOT THAT WE DON'T REALLY TOOT OUR HORN.

IT'S MUCH BUT. PALM BAY IS A CITY IS WAY AHEAD OF OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND I'M THINKING AND AND PROGRESSION AND OUR GROWTH, WHEN I TALK TO OTHER CITIES, WE'RE DEFINITELY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

SO THAT MADE ME PROUD OF THE STAFF, THE GREAT JOB THERE WAS DOING.

AND MOVING THE CITY FORWARD, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER LAW, THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND HOW WE COULD USE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED AND ALSO NETWORK WITH OTHER CITY LEADERS AND MAYORS AND COUNCILMAN PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR, I HAVE A LIST, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY WANT TO SEND MY REGARDS TO AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO OUR HAITIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN PALM BAY AND COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I WAS THE ONE WHO LET THEM KNOW AS SOON AS I GOT THE NOTIFICATION.

BUT WE CURRENTLY AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN FELIX SITS ON IT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A DISASTER RELIEF FUND AND IT HAS APPROXIMATELY TEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SOME ODD DOLLARS.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OR WHAT STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE BOMBING FOR SUPPORT TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO THE COUNTRY OF HAITI AND WHATEVER CAPACITY WE CAN. I KNOW IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, MAYOR REGARDS TO RELOCATING CHILDREN FROM PUERTO RICO. WE'VE DONE THAT.

AND THAT WAS WITH SAM LOPEZ.

ACTUALLY, HE WAS BIG ON THAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THAT'S NEEDED IN HAITI, BUT WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST. SO I'M JUST BRINGING THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

BUT, YEAH, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I'M I'M ALL ABOARD.

WHATEVER WHATEVER YOU NEED DONE ON THIS, I'M FOR IT.

AND THEN MOVING ON, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORKSHOP IS AUGUST 24TH, 2021 AT SIX P.M.

AND THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP IS ENTITLED WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO AFTER THAT, WE HAVE A VISIONING WORKSHOP OCTOBER 19TH AND A THIRD PUBLIC WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 8TH AT SIX P.M..

THE ONLY WE'RE NOT THE ONLY OTHER THING.

I HAVE A FEW OTHER THINGS. I ALSO WANT TO TALK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO AS A COUNCIL, AS A CITY, BUT.

HOW DO WE GET EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE TO OPEN UP AS A TEST SITE AGAIN? OH, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER THING.

OTHER THAN THAT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.

AND YES, WE ARE DEFINITELY AHEAD.

BUT WHILE WE WERE THERE, I ALSO TOOK AWAY SOME GOOD IDEAS AND TWO OF THEM WOULD BRING UP RIGHT NOW. ONE WAS RIGHT HERE.

THERE WE GO. PERFECT CITY OF LARGO.

THEY PROVIDE THEIR BUDGET AND THEY BREAK IT DOWN JUST AS I THOUGHT IT WAS PERFECT.

THEY THEY HAVE THESE FOR THEIR PUBLIC RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, AND ON THEIR WEBSITE, THEY

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AND THEY DO IT ANNUALLY.

THEY SHOW YOU THE MONTHLY PROPERTY TAX RECEIPT OF WHAT GOES WHERE.

THEY SHOW YOU THAT THEY HAVE NINE HUNDRED FIFTY TWO FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. SO YOU CAN SEE, OK, POLICE IS KIND OF LOW OR PUBLIC WORKS IS KIND OF HIGH.

BUT I THINK THAT'S THAT KIND OF GOES TO WHAT ME AND BILL BRATTON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DOLLAR AND HAVING IT HERE.

BUT I THINK HAVING READILY AVAILABLE FLIERS LIKE THESE IN CITY HALL OR AT COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR WHEN PEOPLE WALK IN, THEY CAN SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHERE IT IS.

SO THIS IS ONE I TALKED TO THE MAYOR OF LARGO AND I WAS JUST LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW, I'M TAKING THIS FROM YOU. SO, YEAH.

SO THAT'S ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, WHETHER WE BRING IT UP TO WITH HIS KEALEY OR, YOU KNOW, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT I THOUGHT THIS IS VERY IMPRESSIVE AND I LIKED IT ON THE LAST THING.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE AS WELL, AND THEIR WEBSITE, THEY THEY HAVE A SURVEY.

SO WITHIN THAT SURVEY IS ONLY FIVE QUESTIONS.

IT ASKS, ARE YOU A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF LARGO OR ARE YOU OK WITH THE MILITARY BEING WHERE IT IS OR YOU WANT IT HIGHER OR LOWER? DO YOU WANT TO INCREASE OF SERVICES? BUT THAT WAS YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WAS A BETTER WAY TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR WEBSITE AND WHAT THEY SHOWED ON THERE. SO YOU CAN YOU JUST GOOGLE CITY OF LARGO BUDGET OR SEE A LARGO FINANCE AND YOU'LL FIND IT. LASTLY, ANOTHER THING I WAS IMPRESSED WITH, AND I THINK YOU CAN HELP ON BOTH SIDES, SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES HAVE LEGISLATIVE AIDES.

I'M NOT LOOKING TO HAVE A PERMANENT LEGISLATIVE AIDE, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATING ON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO GET INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, I THINK WE CAN HAVE LIKE A LEGISLATIVE AIDE INTERN PROGRAM OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

I HAVE OTHER CITIES THAT I TALK TO.

I CAN GET THE INFORMATION TO STAFF.

I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO COUNCIL FIRST WHERE SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE PAST I'VE BEEN A BIG ADVOCATE FOR LIKE TINY HOMES OR SOMETHING.

IF WE HAVE A LEGISLATURE, IF WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN LEGISLATIVE AIDE, IN TURN, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THEY SEEK OUT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OR TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

OR IF COUNCILMAN FELIX WANTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT OTHER MS. PALLIS ARE DOING REGARDING STREETLIGHTS OR SIDEWALKS.

THAT'S SOMETHING HIS LEGISLATIVE AIDE CAN LOOK INTO OR MAYOR SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO VETERAN AFFAIRS IN THE LOCAL OR SOMETHING WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY BE SO MANY PLACES AT ONE TIME.

BUT I THOUGHT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE IT BENEFITS US, BUT IT ALSO BENEFITS THOSE WHO HAVE A PASSION TO GET INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT THROUGH A LOT, BUT I'M DONE.

SO LET'S TACKLE LET'S TALK LET'S TACKLE THE LAST ONE THAT YOU SAID, OK, FIRST, THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE IN YOUR VISION.

DO YOU SEE THAT AS A AS AN INTERN FROM A UNIVERSITY LIKE EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE? HOW DO YOU SEE THAT? OR HIGH SCHOOL? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? AND THAT'S WHY I'M OPENING THE DISCUSSION.

IT COULD BE I'M OPEN A HIGH SCHOOL, EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE.

IF I SEE SOMEBODY ON BREAK FROM, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE GOING TO COLLEGE UP IN ALABAMA OR SOMETHING OR TEXAS.

THEY'RE ON BREAK BACK AND THEY WANT TO SERVE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO START THE DISCUSSION.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S GOOD.

AND I'M TO LET YOU WEIGH IN ON.

COME ON. A COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

BUT I WANTED TO ASK STAFF, DO WE HAVE INTERNSHIPS PROGRAMS TODAY? SO WE DO COORDINATE WITH THE.

I'LL DEFER TO CHARLENA COX, H.R.

DIRECTOR, ON THE DETAILS, BUT WE DO COORDINATE WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO OFFER INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AND SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE MAYOR JOHNSON, I THINK IS A WORTHWHILE IDEA.

WE DO HAVE INTERNSHIPS WHERE I WORK IN MY OTHER JOB, AND I THINK IT'S A SUCCESSFUL WAY OF ENCOURAGING THOSE THAT ARE SEEKING ANY ANY TYPE OF POSITION.

RIGHT. AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THEM FILL UP THEIR RESUME IN THE PROCESS.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO GO WITH INTERNSHIP.

I THINK WE WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE AN INTERNSHIP WITH EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE. I THINK IT WILL BE ENLIGHTENING AND HELP PEOPLE TO KIDS TO A RESUME AND LEARN STUFF ABOUT CITY GOVERNMENT.

I'M FOR THAT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I'LL BE BRIEF AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO REACH FAR EASTERN FLORIDA.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A VIBRANT STUDENT GOVERNMENT.

ALL YOU DO IS JUST A PARTNERSHIP.

JUST REACH OUT TO THEM AND START THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

OUR JOB DON'T ALWAYS LOOK, YOU KNOW, SEXY TO MOST YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY.

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BUT IF YOU THE THE FEW THAT EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT THROUGH RATHER HIGH SCHOOL, EVEN EASTERN FLORIDA, I THINK WE SHOULD GRASP THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THEM. AND I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT, GREAT HELP FOR US.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO VENTURING LOCKED INTO A MASTER CHIEF.

YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN THROUGH THE BUDGET, THE YOU KNOW, THE AGENDA.

HE KNOWS. SO IT'S A LOT OF STUFF.

SO I THINK THAT I THINK THEY'LL BE VERY HELPFUL.

WE'LL BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT. JUST THE EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE.

I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY INTERNS WOULD WANT TO GET INTO THIS TYPE OF GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST FROM FROM MY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM MY DAY JOB.

THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERNS, A LOT OF THROUGHOUT.

ANY UNIVERSITY, AND THEY'LL COME IN IN THE SUMMERTIME, SO IT IS A WORTHWHILE PROGRAM.

I WANT TO ASK ALSO YOU HAVE CONSENSUS HERE, DEPUTY MAYOR, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF NEEDS AT THIS POINT.

I THINK THEY HEAR THE CONSENSUS AND AND WE CAN MOVE OVER, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT BUDGET ISSUE.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

IT SIMPLIFIES THAT COMMUNITY, THAT COMMUNICATION.

SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER WORTHWHILE PROJECT.

AND AND PART OF THAT WELL, PART OF THIS IS WHAT? AND ANGELICA WASN'T ANGELIQUE.

ANGELICA. SHE SHE SIMPLIFIED THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR EVERYONE, AND THIS IS RIGHT UP HER ALLEY, AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT OF WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SO, YEAH, I THINK YOU GOT CONSENSUS THERE AS WELL.

NOW, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TEST SITE.

YOUR VISION IS TO REACH OUT TO THE STATE TO ASK THEM TO REOPEN THE TEST SITE.

YEAH, I WOULDN'T MIND THAT ONE BIT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.

SO IN THE FORM OF AND I'M LOOKING AT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MAYBE SENDING A LETTER FROM FROM THE MAYOR TO THE GOVERNOR OR HOW OR BECAUSE THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO STILL BE THE BOARD OF HEALTH AND I GUESS THE NATIONAL GUARD.

CORRECT. CORRECT.

AND THAT WAS HOW IT WAS STAGED BEFORE IT WAS STAGED BY STATE OVER STAFFED BY EMPLOYEES OF FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD. WE ACTUALLY HAVE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM JOHN SCOTT HYPERCARD, COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO OPEN THREE TEST SITES THROUGHOUT BREVARD COUNTY, ONE NORTH, ONE CENTRAL, ONE SOUTH.

AND SO THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS WE'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS WITH THEM IN THE PAST. FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS THE IS THE IS THE ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY COORDINATING IT? AND THEY'RE USING A VENDOR.

THAT VENDOR WOULD BE STAFFING THE SITE.

SO THEY'VE ASKED THE CITY TO LOOK AT FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THEIR OPERATION. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN HOST THEM AT THE SITE.

WE'RE CURRENTLY IN CONVERSATION WITH JOHN SCOTT.

WHAT WHAT SITES ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THE. HAS THAT CAPACITY CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE LOOKING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CAPTAIN'S HOUSE AND WE'VE ALSO BRIEFLY DISCUSSED VETERAN'S PARK.

REASON FOR THAT IS NOT LOOKING AWAY FROM COMMUNITY CENTERS AT THIS POINT.

THE CONCERN FROM STAFF IS THAT THERE WOULD BE SHARED FACILITIES.

WE DON'T WANT COVID POSITIVE FELIX WALKING IN USING A SHARED RESTROOM, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND EXPOSING THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE SAFETY ASPECT OF THAT AS WELL, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE LOOKED AT CAPTAIN'S HOUSE.

SO WE'RE JUST WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON SCOTT AS TO WHETHER THAT WAS SORT THE EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGES THAT WERE JOHNSON MENTIONED THERE WAS THEY JUST STAY IN THEIR VEHICLE. SO THAT TYPE OF.

WELL, HE IS IS BEST HE RECEIVED WORD FROM JOHN SCOTT THAT IT'S NOT LOOKING TO.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FUND, I WANTED TO YOU BROUGHT UP CHILDREN OR ODORICO, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE AREA, PUERTO RICO EXHIBIT THEY EXPERIENCED BACK TO BACK EARTHQUAKES.

RIGHT. AND THEY ALSO EXPERIENCED HURRICANE MARIA SO THAT THAT ISLAND WAS DEVASTATED DURING THAT TIME THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS BEEN A PRECEDENCE THERE.

SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON AND HEAR MY THOUGHTS.

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BECAUSE IF WE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM FROM OUR PREVIOUS DEVASTATIONS, THERE WAS CORRUPTION, IF YOU REMEMBER.

WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT PUERTO RICO.

ITS MOST RECENT RIGHT THERE WAS.

HOW MANY A WAREHOUSE FULL OF WATER THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CORRUPTION EXISTS AND THAT'S WHERE I WANT US TO BE CAUTIOUS TO TO BE ABLE TO FUNNEL SOMETHING TO TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S GOING TO CREATE CORRUPTION, WHERE EVERYONE HERE ON THIS DIOCESE, WELL INTENDED FOR PEOPLE IN HAITI BUT ARE WELL INTENTIONED.

WE CAN'T COMPROMISE THE CREDIBILITY OF OF THIS DIOCESE, OF THIS COUNCIL.

AND AND SO MY THOUGHTS ARE WE VET AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS IS TOTALLY ON BOARD IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING. I WOULD WANT COUNSEL TO REALLY GET AN ORGANIZATION, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN TIME AND AGAIN, AND I ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER IN 2010, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE PROMISES OF BUILDING A HURRICANE PROOF EARTHQUAKE PROOF BUILDINGS IN HAITI, AND THAT WAS FINANCES.

I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THEM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE IT TOUCHED PEOPLE'S HEART AND THEY THEY INVESTED.

THEY DONATED. AND THAT CAUSE AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN FELIX KNOWS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE HE'S PASSIONATE ABOUT ABOUT HAITI.

SO THAT'S MY AREA OF CONCERN.

A DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

WELL, INTENTIONS HAVE TO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CHECK BALANCES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CULPABLE OR BEING A PART OF ANY TYPE OF QUESTION MARKS ON THESE FUNDS ACTUALLY GET THERE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE DRC, THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE.

SO I CALLED AS A CHAIRMAN.

I CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING FOR MONDAY.

SO WE ALL MEETING MONDAY.

CURRENTLY IN ALL POLICY, THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT DICTATE WHO WE CAN GIVE TO.

AND I DID I SPOKE WITH MRS. SMITH TO LOOK INTO THE LANGUAGE CURRENTLY AS PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND BOARD MEMBER PUT FORTH AS WHAT THE THE LANGUAGE IN WHICH WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO OPERATE UNDER.

SO ONE OF IT IS THAT WE WILL NOT DONATE TO ANY ONLY ORGANIZATION WE CAN DONATE TO.

IT'S A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED OR REGISTERED AT LIMIT LIMITED US TO THE RED AMERICAN RED CROSS OVER THE WORLD AND OTHERS.

BIG ORGANIZATION IF.

AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'LL HAVE WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AND LOOKED AT WHERE WHERE ARE WE AND WHICH WHICH DIRECTION WE WANT TO MOVE, AND I'M NOT SURE TO WHAT EXTENT COUNCIL WILL I BELIEVE WE'LL DISCUSS THAT ON MONDAY AS TO WHICH DIRECTION AND TO PUT A NUMBER ON IT.

AND OBVIOUSLY, COUNCIL HAVE THE FINAL SAY.

SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WE WILL HAVE THAT MEETING ON MONDAY AND WE'LL PRESENT WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION THE BOARD MAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WILL BE FINALIZED BY COUNCIL.

AND ONE OF THE THING I'LL DO AS WELL.

I WILL. AS FAR AS THE VETTING PART, WE WE'VE IDENTIFY QUITE OF FEW ORGANIZATION ON THE GROUND THAT HAVE A TRACK RECORD THE LAST 10 YEARS THAT ARE DOING THE WORK, THAT ARE TOUCHING LIVES AND DOING THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE SO WE CAN DO A LIST AT THIS POINT.

AND WE'LL LEAVE THAT FOR THE CONVERSATION THAT I THOUGHT.

YOU ALSO WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THE 2010 EARTHQUAKES, THEN THE LINE.

YES, CORRECT. I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENED IS IN 2010 AND.

I'LL CALL IT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE FACT, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS. LET LET LET DOWN THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF MANY BIG ORGANIZATION THEY THEY RAISED OVER.

500 MILLION DOLLARS PROMISED TO BUILD 600 HOMES, BUT WHEN IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, THEY ONLY BUILT SIX.

NO ACCOUNTABILITY UNTIL TODAY, 11 YEARS LATER.

NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO QUESTION.

I MEAN, THEIR EXCUSE.

WELL, WE HAD TO USE THE BALANCE ELSEWHERE, BUT THE FUND WAS ACTUALLY RAISED FOR THAT CAUSE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE BIGGER PICTURE WAS A LOT OF PROMISES WERE MADE AS WELL TO THE CAUSE. OVER FOUR BILLION DOLLARS WAS PROMISED TO HAITI BY THE INTERNATIONAL

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SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE LEARNED.

I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE PART OF HAITIAN AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF ELECTED OFFICIAL, 67 OF US, OVER 18 DIFFERENT STATES.

SO WE ARE WE PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE THE WATCHDOG.

ESSENCE WILL BE THE AUDITOR TO MAKE SURE THOSE PROMISES ARE KEPT.

AND WE ARE WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL, A COMPLIANCE SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT DOING ALL THE VETTING OF THE ORGANIZATIONS AT ALL, YOU KNOW, CREDIBLE.

SO THAT'S THE OTHER YOU KNOW, THAT PART OF THAT ORGANIZATION.

I'M ALSO ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT AS FAR AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, ABOUT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CREDIBLE ORGANIZATION ON THE GROUND, THAT DOING THE WORK. AND I WILL MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATION IN THAT SENSE OR THE VETTING PROCESS WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND I THINK OF AND I THROW THEIR NAME OUT THERE BEFORE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY GO BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

RIGHT. CALVARY CHAPEL OF MELBOURNE.

THEY I KNOW THEY GO ON THE GROUND.

I KNOW SEVERAL OTHER ENTITIES THAT GO BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO.

A PROVEN HISTORY AND AND BE INVESTED.

THANK YOU. I REALLY I REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT DISCUSSION.

IT WAS WORTHWHILE.

AND UNDER MY REPORTS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE IT UP TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE LITERALLY OVERWHELMED. THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY, GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, WE'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE ILL FROM THIS DISEASE.

I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THEM.

BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE ROLLING UP THEIR SLEEVES, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND? OUR HOSPITALS ARE MAXED OUT, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER RIGHT NOW THAT IS FIGHTING AND I, I AM JUST OVERWHELMED.

IT'S BEEN RELENTLESS FOR THEM OR THEIR FAMILIES.

AND SO I I APPLAUD YOU EACH AND EVERY FIRST RESPONDER.

I APPLAUD YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING ON BEHALF OF CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

AND I AM LITERALLY OVERWHELMED BY EVERYTHING.

EVERY ACTION THAT YOU TAKE, IT DEMONSTRATES LOVE, DEMONSTRATED SERVICE, DEMONSTRATES YOU CONSIDERING SOMEONE ELSE MORE THAN YOURSELF.

SO THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT AT THIS TIME.

AND SO WE'LL GO ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

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CHANGES EVERY TIME, MADAM PRESIDENT, A NEW BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL, IT'S AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH IN DISCUSSION.

SEVERAL MEMBERS OF CITY STAFF TO INCLUDE THE CITY MANAGER, MYSELF AND OUR H.R.

DIRECTOR, AND THE REASON THIS HAS COME UP IS ITS CONSIDERATION FOR TEMPORARY BENEFITS TO EMPLOYEES RELATED TO.

BOYS LEAVE TO EMPLOYEES BASED ON COVID AND AND THE REASON THIS HAS COME UP.

AS AN ITEM FOR COUNCIL IS WE ARE FINDING OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE COVID CASES ARE COVERED, POSITIVE CASES ARE INCREASING RAPIDLY OR MUCH MORE RAPIDLY THAN WE SAW IN THE FIRST ROUND OF COVID BACK FROM MARCH 20 20 TO END OF JUNE, FOR INSTANCE, FROM MARCH 20 THROUGH THE END OF JUNE 20 21, THE CITY HAD ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR POSITIVE COVID CASES FROM MID-JULY TO CURRENT, OR AT LEAST THE LAST COUNT THAT I HAD, I BELIEVE WAS YESTERDAY, WAS 54 POSITIVE CASES.

SO WE'RE ALREADY AT A THIRD JUST IN THREE WEEKS AND WHERE WE WERE IN ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF TIME. AND WE HAVE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE THIS HAS AFFECTED CITY OPERATIONS.

AND SO. WITH THE DELTA VARIANT, WITH THE OPENING OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE IN HERE SEE REED, EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW AND STUDENTS BEING QUARANTINED, WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF PROVIDING THREE TEMPORARY BENEFITS RELATED TO COVID FOR STAFF.

THE FIRST IS A COVID-19 VOLUNTARY VACCINATION INCENTIVE.

THROUGH ARPA, WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THE ARPA FUNDS AS AN ELIGIBLE USE FOR WRITING A VACCINATION INCENTIVE TO EMPLOYEES.

WE SAW WHERE THE COUNTY COMMISSION PROVIDED I THINK IT WAS LIKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER EMPLOYEE FOR A VACCINE INCENTIVE, WE DIDN'T GO THAT EXTREME.

WE ACTUALLY WENT WITH THE AVERAGE BRITISH.

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SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR VACCINE INCENTIVE PER EMPLOYEE FOR THOSE WHO SEEK TO GET VACCINATED.

AND THAT WOULD BE RETROACTIVE TO ANY EMPLOYEE WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY GOTTEN THE VACCINE AS WELL. YOU SECOND, ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THAT? LIKE WHAT WHAT HAPPENS IF A PERSON CAN'T GET VACCINATED MEDICALLY? I'M JUST SAYING CORRECT.

SO WE DID TALK THROUGH BRIEFLY A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS.

IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS A MEDICAL EXCEPTION, IT WOULD PROVIDE A NOTE FROM THEIR DOCTOR, BUT CONTINUE TO WEAR PPE AND STILL BE ENTITLED TO THE INCENTIVE IF THE EMPLOYEE HAD A MEDICAL EXCEPTION AND COULDN'T WEAR A MASK AS WELL.

AND PROVIDED THAT NOTE FROM THE DOCTOR AND I THINK WE DO HAVE OR INDIVIDUAL CITY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THAT EXCEPTION, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK THROUGH AS IN TERMS OF HOW TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM PROTECTED.

BUT THE THOUGHT IS THEY WOULD RECEIVE THE INCENTIVE AS WELL FOR RELIGIOUS PREFERENCES ARE OUR CONVERSATION. AND IN TALKING THROUGH HOW THAT COULD BE HANDLED AND HOW IT IS HANDLED IN OTHER LOCATIONS IS THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH H.R.

AND IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE INCENTIVE AS WELL.

SO IF OK, SO IF A STAFF MEMBER FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS OR MEDICAL REASONS, RIGHT, CANNOT GET VACCINATED, THEY'RE ENTITLED, THEY'RE WAIVED.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THEY PROVE TO H.R., I GUESS THE H.R.

DIRECTOR AND I'M LOOKING AT CHARLENE THAT SHE'S NOT IN HER HEAD.

YES. FOR THE RECORD, THEY ARE ABLE TO STILL GET THAT INCENTIVE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VACCINATED OR WHAT, MAYOR? THEY'RE NOT. SO YOU DON'T START OFF WAVING THEM.

WHAT WE DO IS ACCOMMODATE THEM BY CREATING THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PROGRAM IN WHICH THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SAME OBJECTIVE.

IT MAY BE USED IN PPE INSTEAD OF VACCINATION, BUT IT WON'T IMMEDIATELY BE A WAVE OF, WELL, YOU FILL OUT THIS FORM AND THEN WE JUST PAY YOU THE INCENTIVE.

WHAT IT WOULD DO IS CREATE AN ACCOMMODATION WHERE WE CREATE ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT HAS THE SAME OBJECTIVE BUT DOESN'T VIOLATE YOUR DISABILITY OR YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEF.

I SEE, SO I GOT YOU, I THINK I UNDERSTAND.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WOULD STILL IT'S NOT A WAIVER, BUT THEY GET ANOTHER AVENUE TO TO RECEIVE THE INCENTIVE. EXACTLY.

I'LL BE THERE. OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MEDICALLY OR FOLKS THAT FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS CAN'T BE VACCINATED, WILL STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INCENTIVE. ALL RIGHT.

CARRY ON, MA'AM. I JUST I WANTED TO JUST GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

SO THE NUMBER TWO MAN, THE SECOND TEMPORARY BENEFIT IS A COVID-19 LEAVING CITY PERSONNEL.

ALL RIGHT, COVID-19 LEAVE BANK FOR CITY PERSONNEL.

WE HAD IN THE FIRST ROUND OF CHOCOLATE COVERED 1.0, THE FIRST ROUND OF COVID, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER, I LEAVE BANK TO EMPLOYEES OF 80 HOURS.

AND IT WASN'T IT WAS IT WAS MORE OF A USE IT OR LOSE IT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GET TO LEAVE BANK AND IT'S SITTING IN THERE THEIR LEAVE TIME AND THEY COULD USE IT AT THEIR DISCRETION.

IT IS. OR ANYONE WHO TESTED POSITIVE OR A FAMILY MEMBER TESTED POSITIVE OR HAD TO QUARANTINE FOR REASONS PERHAPS DUE TO CHILD CARE FACILITIES, THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED TO TAP INTO THEIR 80 HOUR LEAVE BANK.

AND THE CITY SOUGHT REIMBURSEMENT FROM OR THIS LEAVE BANK FROM THE PREFERRED COUNTIES, KERES FUNDS, SO THAT IS SINCE RUN OUT THAT EXPIRED AND WE ARE NOW LOOKING TO PROVIDE THE SAME BENEFIT TO CITY EMPLOYEES, 80 HOURS LEAVE BANK FOR EACH EMPLOYEE MADE AVAILABLE USING ARPEY FUNDS AGAIN, IF THEY DON'T USE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO NEED.

THE CITY IS NOT HAVING TO SHELL OUT MONEY OR AN EMPLOYEE WHO WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE NEED TO USE THAT LEAVE TIME.

MAKE SURE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

I'M KIM COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ON ON THIS.

LET ME GO BACK A LITTLE BIT, UM.

ON THE VACCINATION SENATE.

WHAT'S THE CAUSE IF HE WAS TO PROVE THAT, WHAT WAS WHAT WOULD BE THE COST?

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THAT'S ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND.

OK. I'M GOING TO THE LEE BANK, WHAT'S THE COST? OF BAILEY BANK. WOULD BE WITH ALL THE EMPLOYEES HAVING 80 HOURS OF THE.

I WOULDN'T HAVE THE COST FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE HAVING 80 HOURS, BUT IF YOU DID THE MATH ON, LET'S SAY, WELL ROUNDED UP TO A THOUSAND TIMES THE AVERAGE HOURLY RATE OF ABOUT 19, 20 DOLLARS AN HOUR, IT ASSUMED WITH THE MATH ON THAT IMES 80 HOURS EACH WOULD BE.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN TERMS OF WHAT TOOK PLACE HISTORICALLY WITH THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM IS WE HAD THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT LEAD BANKS TO DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

AND THAT CRITERIA, ONE COULD GET 80 HOURS PAID AT THE FULL RATE OF THE HOUR OR 80 HOURS A DAY AT TWO THIRDS THE RATE OF THE HOUR, TWO DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

SO OF THE TOTAL OF THE TWO PROGRAMS PUT TOGETHER OF ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES FOR A YEAR AND A HALF'S TIME, WE HAD JUST OVER 350 TO 400 EMPLOYEES THAT WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT PROGRAM. THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT WAS UNDER FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND THIS MONEY WILL COME FROM THE OPERA FUNDS, CORRECT, WE HAVE FOUND THAT IT'S AN ELIGIBLE USE UNDER URB.

WHY WHY DO YOU COME UP WITH AN 80 HOURS, WHY 80 HOURS? WHY CAN'T IT BE MORE SIMPLY JUST MIRRORED THE PROGRAM THAT WAS AVAILABLE BEFORE THE SEE IF I CAN GET IT CORRECT. FAMILIES FIRST ARENAVIRUS RESPONSE ACT.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, THOUGH.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, BECAUSE YOU HAVE STATS ON THAT, LIKE WE GO OVER THOSE 80, 80 HOURS IN THE BANK. MY UNDERSTANDING WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO OVER THOSE HOURS, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO CHARLENA COX, OUR H.R.

DIRECTOR. LET ME LET ME ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT WHEN I SAY 80 HOURS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A FIREFIGHTER IN THE CITY WORKS 24 HOURS.

AM I CORRECT? THEY WORK 24 HOURS AND ONE ONE DAY.

A POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING 12 HOURS ON A SHIFT, IF I'M CORRECT ABOUT THAT, SO 80 HOURS WON'T FIT A FIREFIGHTER IN THE PALM BAY AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT I'LL LET THE DIRECTOR TALK. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHARLENA COX, H.R.

DIRECTOR. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

FIREFIGHTERS WORK TWENTY FOUR HOURS AND THEY'RE ALL 48.

HOWEVER, PREVIOUSLY, WHEN WE WERE UNDER THE F SCIARRA, WHICH IS FEDERALLY MANDATED BY THE WORK WHERE IT'S FEDERALLY MANDATED, THE FIREFIGHTERS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THIS AS WELL.

EACH EMPLOYEE, WHETHER YOU ARE SAFETY PERSONNEL OR A GENERAL EMPLOYEE, YOU WERE ALLOTTED 80 HOURS AND THAT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

80 HOURS COULD BE USED AS A MS. YANKALILLA BROWN SAID.

FOR UNDER TWO BANKS, ONE WAS THE EPSO, WHICH IS THE EMERGENCY PAID SICK LEAVE WHERE YOU MET CERTAIN CRITERIA WHERE YOU WERE PAID AT ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

HOWEVER, AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY FALL UNDER FMLA, WHICH WAS THE EMERGENCY FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE WHERE YOU WERE COMPENSATED TWO THIRDS OF YOUR SALARY. AND IF YOU EXHAUST IF YOU ARE TO EXHAUST THOSE 80 HOURS, THEN YOU WOULD ALWAYS FALL. YOU COULD ALWAYS FALL UNDER WHAT WE CALL I KNOW A LOT OF ACRONYMS. I'M APOLOGIZING IN ADVANCE FMLA, WHICH IS THE FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT, WHICH WOULD PROTECT BOTH YOUR JOB AND YOUR MEDICAL BENEFITS.

SO OR EITHER YOU ALSO ANOTHER BENEFIT YOU COULD APPLY FOR YOUR SHORT TERM DISABILITY.

OH, I HAVE SOME QUESTION, JOE.

WHAT YOU TELLING ME WE GOT THREE PROGRAMS, LEAP EMERGENCY LEAVE PROGRAM, WELL, ONE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1994, AND THAT IS HOW H.R.

IS CURRENTLY PROCESSING THE OF THE POSITIVE CASES OF THE CORONAVIRUS.

BUT DO YOU GET PAID? DO YOU GET FINANCIAL COMPENSATION FROM YOU? WELL, THIS IS HOW WE WOULD DO IT UNDER FMLA.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT CORRELATED WITH GETTING PAID.

IT'S JUST FOR, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, JOB PROTECTION AND YOUR MEDICAL BENEFIT PROTECTION.

HOWEVER, IN ORDER FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE COMPENSATED, THEY WOULD USE THEIR SICK LEAVE,

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EXACTLY THAT. AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE MEDICAL FAMILY LEAVE ACT.

SO YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR ANNUAL LEAVE SICK LEAVE TO GET COMPENSATED UNDER THE MEDICAL LEAVE ACT. THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING HERE WITH THE CITY STAFF IS PROPOSING HERE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IN YOUR FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT, THAT IS CORRECT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE PREVIOUSLY UNDER THE FCA, THE FAMILIES FIRST CORONAVIRUS RELIEF ACT, WHERE THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDED 80 HOURS.

SO. WE COULD IF WE WERE TO.

APPROVED THIS WEEK AGO, A HUNDRED AND TWENTY HOURS CAN BE.

WELL, WE BEFORE WE KEPT IT AT 80 AND WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH ISSUES WITH THE 80 BECAUSE ONCE THE CORONAVIRUS QUARANTINE TIME AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY CAME UP WITH 80 HOURS IS TO GIVE YOU FIVE WILL GIVE YOU TWO WEEKS OF LEAVE.

AND THAT'S THE NORMAL QUARANTINE PERIOD TO GET OVER THE CORONAVIRUS OR TO, I WOULD SAY, TO RECUPERATE, TO USE A BETTER TERM.

RIGHT. BUT LIKE LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK THIS WORK FOR FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE, THE 80 HOURS. RIGHT.

I THINK WE SHOULD GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN 80 IF WE PASS THIS SIDE A LITTLE.

AND IF ONCE YOU USE THESE 80 HOURS.

IF MY KID GETS SICK.

WITH CORONAVIRUS, THE DELTA VARIANTS, I CAN'T COME TO WORK BECAUSE NOW I'M EXPOSED TO THE TO THE VIRUS. THAT IS CORRECT.

NOW I'M USING IT IN MY FAMILY EMERGENCY LEAVE.

AND AND I MIGHT IT JUST CAME OFF VACATION FOR 40 HOURS OR 80 HOURS.

NOW I'M YOU KNOW, I'M OUT OF LUCK.

RIGHT. SO WHAT DO A PERSON DO WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE OR AM I JUST CAME OFF OF BATTLING CANCER? WHAT DID THEY DO IF A MEMBER IN A FAMILY GETS SICK AND THEY DON'T HAVE MAYBE 30 HOURS OF CARBINES, SICK LEAVE AND ANNUALLY? THAT'S NOT GOING TO COVER THEM FOR TWO WEEKS.

WHAT DO A CITY EMPLOYEE DO WHEN THEY COME TO YOU? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, BECAUSE WE HAVE EXPERIENCED SCENARIOS LIKE THAT.

WHAT A PERSON THEY EXHAUST ALL OF THEIR LEAVE.

WE HAVE WHERE AND WE WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PAYROLL DEPARTMENT, FINANCE PAYROLL DEPARTMENT, WHERE WE WOULD SOLICIT FOR DONATE DONATED TIME FROM THEIR COLLEAGUES OR SOMEONE IN THEIR DEPARTMENT.

ALSO, THERE IS SHORT TERM DISABILITY, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT IF THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT, IF THEY YOU KNOW, IF THAT COSTS IS PAYROLL DEDUCTED.

SO THERE ARE SEVERAL AVENUES BEFORE THEY GO INTO A TOTAL UNPAID STATUS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL AVENUES THAT THEY CAN TAP INTO BEFORE THEY GO INTO AN UNPAID STATUS.

OK, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.

ALONG THE SAME VEIN, AND I THINK YOU ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THIS.

EIGHTY HOURS.

WAS SUFFICIENT. INITIALLY AT HIS FIRST ROUND, CORRECT, FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED, NOT EVERYONE, IT WASN'T 100 PERCENT SUFFICIENT.

THERE WERE SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU EXHAUSTED YOUR 80 HOURS, IF YOU CONTRACTED THE CORONAVIRUS AND YOU EXHAUSTED YOUR EIGHT HOURS, THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ALSO GO INTO, LIKE WE SAID, FAMILY THAT'S BEEN AROUND, WHAT, SINCE 1994.

HOWEVER, THEN YOU COULD APPLY FOR SHORT TERM DISABILITY TO TO IN ORDER TO BE COMPENSATED OR YOU COULD APPLY FOR YOU COULD SOLICIT YOUR DEPARTMENT THROUGH PAYROLL FOR DONATED LEAVE THOSE FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS.

GOD BLESS YOU. THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS, WERE THEY THE ONES THAT WERE MOST AFFECTED BY THOSE 80 HOURS, I WOULD SAY THOSE COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS ALLUDING TO, I WOULD SAY THEY WERE SO BASED ON THAT, THAT'S THAT'S HIS LOGIC OF INCREASING THAT.

SO WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE CONSIDERING EVERYONE? WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE? WELL, AT THIS POINT, HOURS ARE OVER THE ISD LIKE ANOTHER 40 OR WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE FUNDS ARE, HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE FUNDED.

SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE COULD USE THE FUNDS.

I MEAN, I REALLY TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVEN'T GIVEN IT MUCH THOUGHT OVER THE 80

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BUT YOU DO YOU FEEL IF WE DO GO OVER THE 80, WE WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR PROPER FUNDS? I CONCERN I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A CERTAIN STIPULATION ABOUT IF WE GO OVER THE 80, I THINK THAT'S JUST THAT WAS JUST A, YOU KNOW, A BASIS OF TWO WEEKS, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS OF THE QUARANTINE PERIOD.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A BENEFIT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MIRROR THAT.

BUT THERE'S I DON'T BELIEVE AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY THING THAT SAYS WE CANNOT GO OVER THAT, BECAUSE AS THE LAWS STAND, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALWAYS SAYS YOU CAN ALWAYS GIVE A GREATER BENEFIT.

YOU JUST CAN'T GIVE A LESSER MS..

MM HMM. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME ANY BEFORE YOU LEAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCILMAN.

FELIX. MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR.

I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT.

YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. THE LANGUAGE IN IN THE WAY THIS PRESENTED WHAT I'VE HEARD THE WORD VORLON, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER.

IT'S I'M GOING BACK TO THE 300 VACCINATION, THE VOLUNTARY VACCINATION INCENTIVE.

YES, I'M GOING BACK TO THAT WHEN I'VE HEARD VOLUNTEERED THE WORD VOLUNTEER AND PUT A NUMBER PUT AN INCENTIVE TO IT.

TO ME, THIS THIS DOES NOT ADD UP.

I'M LONG CLEARLY SAID THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

THE THE HOURS, THE LEAVE BANK HOURS.

I WOULD EVEN BE IN SUPPORT OF INCREASING IT.

WHAT I TRULY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THE INCENTIVE.

I TRULY, TRULY HAVE A HARD TIME.

A TO TO PAY ALL PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING IS THAT I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING IT.

WE HAVE A MORAL DUTY, WE ALL DO, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US DO.

TO BE GOOD NEIGHBOR, TO PROTECT EACH OTHER.

YOU DON'T WANT IT FOR YOU, TAKE IT FOR THE NEXT PERSON OR KHALID.

FOR US TO HAVE TO PAY OUR PEOPLE.

REVACCINATED. 100 PERCENT OF A PROBLEM.

I WOULD CONSIDER THE THE OTHER TWO S., AS THEY ARE EVEN CONSIDER YIELD TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF HOURS, BUT THAT RIGHT THERE.

I THINK IT'S WRONG.

EVEN GO BACK AND PAY YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A PROBLEM.

SO WE HAVE WE HAVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US HAVE A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT EACH OTHER, TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND GO IN AND GET VACCINATED.

AND IF I MAY LOOK AND IF I NEED TO GET VACCINATED, I APPROACH OTHER.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX OR MADAM COX.

GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY TO THAT AND WE HAVE HEARD THAT BEFORE.

THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED INTO TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WERE DOING.

AND WE KNOW WE DID, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OBJECTIONS TO THIS ONE BEING THE MEDICAL, AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, AS WELL AS RELIGION AND JUST, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZING SOMEONE TO GET A VACCINE ANYWAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, COUNTYWIDE, IF NOT WORLDWIDE.

WELL, MS. COX, I GOT TO COMMEND YOU ON YOUR DEDICATION AND IN OTHER CITIES AND SUCH.

YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH COUNCILWOMAN, FELIX, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOOD.

PERHAPS WE COULD BRING THIS, YOU KNOW, THE INCENTIVE, THE VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE VACCINATION PROGRAM BACK.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GOOD BECAUSE.

AND YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE TELEMARKETING EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES BRIEFING ON THAT.

BUT WE FEEL THAT THOSE TWO MAY BE THE WAY TO GO RIGHT NOW AND AND AND KIND OF LIKE MAYBE DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH WITH THE VOLUNTARY INCENTIVES THAT THE COUNCILMAN FELIX IS HAVING COUNCILMAN FOSTER WANTS TO BRING IN AT THE SAME TIME.

YEAH. THE LEAVING COVID-19 BANK CITY PERSONNEL.

IS THAT A VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE? WHEN YOU SAY THE LEE BANK, 80 HOURS, YEAH, YEAH, THAT 80 HOURS ARE GIVEN TO PEOPLE WHO

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JUST LIKE IT WAS UNDER THE FEKRI.

WHY ARE WE NOT USING THAT AS AN INCENTIVE TO GET VACCINATED? OF CITY PERSONNEL.

I GUESS WE NEVER THAT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP.

LIKE I SAID, WE WERE JUST MIRRORING WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR PLATFORM WAS, WHAT THEY INITIALLY PROPOSED.

HERE'S WHAT HERE'S WHY I SAY THAT, BECAUSE I'M LIKE COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE.

THE COUNTY GAVE KNOW OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING PEOPLE MONEY, FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR JUST TO GO DO THE RIGHT THING. YOU KNOW, NOBODY GAVE MY MOTHER MONEY TO GIVE ME THE MEASLES, MUMPS AND RUBELLA. I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE GOT SOME EXTRA DIAPERS.

I MEAN, SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

WHEN I JOINED THE MILITARY, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T PAY ME EXTRA TO GET ALL THE SHOTS AT MY LEFT AND RIGHT OFF. I WAS THREE.

IT WAS REALLY HURT, OK, BUT I KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING BECAUSE I WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING TO PROTECT THE COUNTRY.

RIGHT. I WAS DOING THE RIGHT.

MY MOTHER WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING.

BUT TAKE MY LIFE AND OTHER KIDS LIFE TO HAVE THESE SHOTS AND WE STILL GIVE THEM SHOTS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH I HAVEN'T SEEN PEOPLE LATELY WALKING AROUND WITH MEASLES. SO WE GET THEM SHOTS ANYWAY.

MOTHERS, FATHERS MAKE SURE THEIR KIDS GET THEM SHOT.

RIGHT. WE ARE IN A.

A QUAGMIRE.

I WOULD SAY ANOTHER WORD, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE.

WE'RE IN A QUAGMIRE WITH THIS THIS DELTA VARIANTS IN THIS CORONAVIRUS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

IT MIGHT BE ANOTHER VIRUS THAT THE VACCINE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HELP US.

I WEAR A MASK BECAUSE I RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE HEALTH AND MY HEALTH, BECAUSE I CAUGHT THE CORONAVIRUS LAST YEAR AND I HAD THE FLU.

SO IMAGINE I WORK FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND I CAUGHT THE FLU IN MARCH AND THAT WAS WORSE. TEN TIMES WORSE.

AND WHEN I CAUGHT THE CORONAVIRUS, WHEN I CAUGHT THE FLU, I WAS DOWN FOR TWO WEEKS OR MORE. I THOUGHT I WAS DYING.

I MEAN, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I MADE IT TO THE V.A.

CLINIC IN VERITÉ, THEY YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO PASS OUT.

I ALMOST FAINTED RIGHT THERE, BUT.

AND THEN I USED UP ALL MY LEAD, RIGHT, BECAUSE I GOT HEALTHY AND I CAME BACK, TOOK A LITTLE VACATION IN AUGUST, I CAUGHT THE CORONAVIRUS.

AND IT WASN'T AS BAD AS THE FLU, BUT A QUARANTINE FOR 14 DAYS AND I WAS CLEAR.

AND I GOT THAT SHOT IMMEDIATELY, I COULD GET THAT SHOT, I WENT TO ORLANDO AND GOT THAT FYSSAS SHOT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO AFFECT ANYBODY ELSE AND AND IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND I THINK CITY PERSONNEL NEEDS TO DO THE RIGHT THING, NOT ONLY PROTECT THEIR COWORKERS AND THEIR FAMILY, BUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE, BECAUSE IF THIS VIRUS SPREAD THROUGH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, SPREAD TO OUR PUBLIC WORK, SPREAD THROUGH OUR PARKS AND REC OR SPREAD THROUGH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY COULD SHUT DOWN.

ABSOLUTELY. AND IT MAKES YOUR JOB A LOT HARDER.

SO I THINK LEAVING MY POINT IS, I SAID ALL I HAD TO SAY IS I THINK THE LEAVING SHOULD BE A POLITICIAN AND SENATE, BECAUSE IF I'M A CITY WORKER AND I COULD GET A HUNDRED AND TWENTY HOURS LEAVE JUST IN CASE, I MIGHT NOT USE IT.

IF MY KID GOES TO SCHOOL AND GET THE VIRUS OR I GET THE VIRUS, I'M ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM AND I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO COME TO WORK WITH THE VIRUS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT.

THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR HOUSE PAYMENT.

THEY CANNOT MAKE IT CANNOT PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE NOLEY.

I GOT TO ASK FOR DONATION OR THEY GOT A.

APPLY FOR DISABILITY OR SOMETHING, THEY THEY MAY GET IT MAY NOT.

SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERSONNEL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

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AND I'M JIM BROWN AND HAVE A CONTINUE REGARDING TELEMARKETING, THE THIRD ITEM BEFORE WE CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION.

WORKING IS THE THIRD OPTION, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO SORRY, SOMETHING WE WERE AUTHORIZED TO OFFER YOU MS. EMPLOYEES DURING THE FEDERAL MANDATE, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A TELEWORKING POLICY.

WE WERE ALLOWED TO USE THE TELEWORKING POLICY THAT WAS FEDERALLY MANDATED AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY ORDER WITH THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER WHERE WE CANNOT GO UNDER AN EMERGENCY ORDER AT A CITY LEVEL, WE CAN'T UTILIZE THE FEDERAL TELEWORKING POLICY.

SO THIS IS SIMPLY AN ASK TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK ON A TELEWORKING POLICY THAT BECOMES A PART OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

COPY THAT AND SO SO HERE, I THINK.

ALSO THUS FAR.

WE MAY BE AGREEING TO TWO OF THE THREE, THE VOLUNTARY VACCINATION INCENTIVE, PERHAPS WE COULD TABLE THAT FOR FURTHER RESEARCH AND AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN WE MAY BE GOOD WITH TWO OF THE ITEMS, TWO AND THREE AND THEN HAVING.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER CONSIDERATION OR TO SEE HOW WE CAN INCENTIVIZE ADDITIONAL LEAVE BANK HOURS, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING AND PERHAPS WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HAVE NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN IN THIS CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I'M KIND OF SENSING EVERYONE TO MY LEFT HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHERE YOU'RE WHERE YOU'RE AT.

YES, MAYOR, I'M FINE WITH ITEMS TWO AND THREE EITHER MOVING FORWARD OR IF IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO TABLE THIS FOR FURTHER DELIBERATION.

I'M I'M FINE WITH THAT AS WELL.

YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M OUT WITH THIS RIGHT NOW, MAYOR.

OK, SO PERHAPS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND THREE AND THEN HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION WITH STAFF TO SEE HOW WE COULD BRING, IF NEED BE, BRING BACK THE ISSUES THAT COUNCILMAN, FOSTER AND COUNCILMAN FELIX FOUGHT BACK.

SO I WOULD I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM FOR ITEM TWO AND THREE.

BUT WE HAVE PUBLIC PARTS, SO WE'RE GOING TO I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I WAS VERY HAPPY THAT.

ALL RIGHT, WHO DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE OUR FIRST RADNOFSKY, FOLLOWED BY A MR. GILBERTON AND MR. NATHAN WHITE.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, RANDALL CHESKY, THREE, FOUR, EIGHT, BRIDGE STREET NE A LITTLE UNIQUE TONIGHT TO HEAR SO MUCH KIND OF OPEN FORUM DISCUSSION AND DEBATE BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

I WILL SAY SLIGHTLY INFLUENCED MY SPEECH HERE, BUT I AM GOING TO SHARE ALL OF MY THOUGHTS IN THEIR ENTIRETY TO REALLY HELP INFLUENCE YOUR DECISION, BECAUSE THAT IS MY GOAL HERE.

AND I AM GOING TO WORK BACKWARDS AND I'M GOING TO SAY THAT, NUMBER THREE, AS FAR AS TELEWORK GOES, CITY OF PALM BAY NEEDS TO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO GET TO TELEWORK IMMEDIATELY. I WORK FOR A GLOBAL AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURER, THE ONLY AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURER CHANGING WORK IN ELECTRIFICATION, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE ENTIRE GLOBAL WORKFORCE OF 100000 WAS ABLE TO GO HOME AT THE DROP OF A HAT IN MARCH 2020.

AND WE'RE STILL HOME NOW AND WE'RE HOPING TO RETURN TO A HYBRID MODEL IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. IT'S VERY POSSIBLE AND IT SHOULD BE DONE.

SECONDLY, I LIKE THE DEBATE AND I THINK IT CAN CONTINUE ON THE SECOND PORTION AS FAR AS LEAVE FOR A THIRD OF THAT AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FEDERAL FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO GRANT THAT TO THEM IS AWESOME.

AND NOW I WILL WILL DIALOG A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FIRST ONE, ABOUT THE INCENTIVE OF A VACCINE AND AT RISK OF BEING CONTROVERSIAL.

I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS MY TRUE THOUGHTS HERE ON THE HUMAN BODY, MY BODY, YOUR BODY, YOUR BODY IS A TEMPLE, AND IT IS A GIFT TO EACH ONE OF US FROM A DIVINE BEING, WHETHER YOU THINK THAT'S GOD, ALLAH, HASHEM, IF YOU THINK THAT IS MOTHER EARTH, IF YOU THINK THAT'S THE UNIVERSE, IF YOU JUST GIVE CREDIT TO YOUR OWN MOTHER WHERE IT ALL BELONGS, YOUR BODY, THE TEMPLE THAT IT IS, IS A GIFT.

AND YOU AS AN ADULT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT GETS INJECTED INTRAVENOUSLY INTO YOUR

[03:30:05]

I DON'T SUPPORT THE IDEA.

I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO OPEN UP A PANDORA'S BOX OF OSTRACIZATION OF EMPLOYEES.

NOW SUPERVISORS ARE GOING TO INQUIRE, WELL, WHAT IS YOUR VACCINATION STATUS? HAVE YOU GOTTEN YOUR INCENTIVE YET? YOU USED BACKDOOR WAYS AND PROCESSES AND THINGS TO KNOW EACH PERSON'S VACCINATION STATUS.

AND IF THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THAT ISN'T ENOUGH AND UNVACCINATED, IF THEY'VE DECLARED THAT IT'S FOR A RELIGIOUS OR MEDICAL IS GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WEAR PPE, WHERE AT THE CDC'S GUIDANCE IS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE WEARING PPE RIGHT NOW, REGARDLESS OF VACCINATION STATUS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WEAR PPE AROUND CITY HALL, AROUND THESE CITY BUILDINGS LIKE A SCARLET LETTER.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM AND MEDICINE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FORMS OF GOVERNMENT, LOOK NO FURTHER THAN OUR COMMUNITY AND TALK TO OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT ARE CUBAN-AMERICAN, THAT ARE FIRST SECOND GENERATION FROM CUBA AND DEALT WITH MANDATORY VACCINES AND ASK THEM, ASK OUR COMMUNITY WHAT SOCIALIST MEDICINE DOES TO THE FABRIC OF A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GO BACK AND FORTH ABOUT NATHAN WHITE.

GILBERTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

FIRST OFF, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME FROM WHO CAME FROM US. IT'S OUR MONEY.

I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT MY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING INTO SO MUCH DEBT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. MY GRANDMA, GREAT GRANDKIDS ARE GOING TO BE PAYING OFF.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THEM.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, IF THAT IS THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO YOUR EMPLOYEES.

GOT THE SHOT OR WE'LL GO GET THE SHOT.

I'VE GOT I HAVE A BETTER IDEA, YOU'RE TAKING MY TAX DOLLAR MONEY AND PAYING INTO THE PEOPLE THAT WENT AND GOT THE SHOT.

WELL, I GOT A SHOT AS MY TAX DOLLAR MONEY.

SO I THINK INSTEAD OF GIVING IT TO EVERY EMPLOYEE, YOU SHOULD GIVE IT TO EVERY RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT COMES OUT TO ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND RESIDENTS FOR THEIR INCENTIVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. LIKE YOU SAID, AND I AGREE WITH YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING, THEY SHOULD GET ANOTHER THREE HUNDRED BUCKS.

ALSO, NATALIYA, UP THAT NINE DOLLARS MILLION THAT WE GOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFF THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS.

IT'LL EAT IT UP REAL QUICK AND WE WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TANGIBLE AT THE END OF THIS.

BUT THE EMPLOYEES MIGHT GET A GO OUT TO DINNER MAYBE FIVE TIMES AND THAT'LL BE THE END OF THAT THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. BY LOOKING AT IT BY THE.

RIGHT THING TO DO, THE PERSON WANTS TO DO IT, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK IS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO. THEY DID IT.

THAT WAS THEIR MORAL COMPASS GUIDING THEM.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING, NOT FINANCIAL INCENTIVE BY ME PAYING THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THING. OR IF THAT'S YOUR PHILOSOPHY, THEN YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ME TO DO THE RIGHT THING. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE THAT COST WOULD BE TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THE LEAD BANK THAT WAS 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS, I AND I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE DOING THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, FIRST STOP.

WHAT IS OUR CURRENT INSURANCE POLICY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING IN AND THE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING THIS, EMPLOYEES ARE PAYING INTO AND THE CITY IS PAYING INTO THAT INTO THAT INSURANCE POLICY? IS THAT ALREADY COVERED OR ARE WE GOING TO SAY, OH, I GOT A GREAT IDEA, LET'S JUST USE THIS TAXPAYER MONEY TO OFFSET OUR INSURANCE? IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE THE GUIDELINES WERE ALREADY THERE? UNDER OUR INSURANCE POLICY COVERAGE, RIGHT, AND LAST ITEMS THAT ARE JUST WONDERING, IS IT TO OFFSET THE INSURANCE OR IS IT TO BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THE EMPLOYEES? AND THE LAST ITEM, HOW MUCH IS TELEMARKETING SYSTEM GOING TO COST THE CITY? IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO HAVE IT BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN HOW IT DOES WORK, THE CAPABILITY OF STAY AT HOME AND STAY OUT OF HARM'S WAY.

IT WORKS. BUT IS THERE GOING TO BE A COST TO THAT? AND IF SO, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT COST WAS? THAT'S THE BILL BATTON POINT OF VIEW.

THANK YOU. IT'S A WHITE.

AROUND YOU. ETHAN WYATT, 13, ON ONE SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.

I'LL TRY TO BE CONCISE, I ALSO AM HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF THE TELE NETWORKING, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NETWORKING PLAN.

I THINK IT IS LONG PAST DUE FOR A GREAT MANY COMPANIES ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

[03:35:04]

IF WE UTILIZED OUR FUNDS FOR THAT AND NOT THE SECONDARY OPTION FOR FUNDING, WHICH WOULD BE OR LISTED THE UNDESIGNATED FUNDS BALANCE, IF IT WAS DONE UTILIZING THE TARP FUNDS, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT AS WELL AS I BELIEVE MANY OTHERS, MORE SO THAN UTILIZING PALM BAY TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR IT INSTEAD OF THE FEDERAL FUNDS AS FAR AS THE THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR PER CITY EMPLOYEE, INCLUDING RETROACTIVE.

INCENTIVE TO RECEIVE THE VACCINE.

I AM APPALLED.

MORE SO THAN I WAS WHEN I GOT HERE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS CASE AGAINST POTENTIALLY PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE A MINDSET OF THINKING THAT HE'S HE'S GOING TO EXTREMES WITH THIS THOUGHT PROCESS, IT WOULDN'T GO THERE.

BUT BEFORE I HAD THE CHANCE TO GET UP HERE.

THIS COUNCIL. BEGAN TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASING THE PAID LEAVE PORTION, BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE THE CURRENT AMOUNT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEIR LIVELIHOOD AND SUSTAIN THEIR JOB.

AND THEN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER SUGGEST USING ACCESSING THAT LEAVE AT ALL AS AN INCENTIVE TO RECEIVE THE VACCINE, THAT'S NOT AN INCENTIVE.

THAT'S A THREAT. RECEIVE THE VACCINE, OR IF YOU DO CONTRACT THE VIRUS, YOU'LL PROBABLY LOSE YOUR JOB. THAT'S NOT OK.

ON A FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL.

THAT IS NOT OK.

THAT IS DEEPLY, DEEPLY INSULTING AND AN INCREDIBLE OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT.

I'M VERY GLAD THAT WE DEFINED THE DEFINITION OF TYRANNY BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING, BECAUSE I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY THAT DICTATING SOMEONE'S PERSONAL MEDICAL DECISION FOR THEM UNDER THREAT OF LOSING THEIR JOB.

OF COURSE, ONLY LOSING IT IF THEY HAPPEN TO ALSO BE SICK WITH A LIFE THREATENING DISEASE TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY OR INSULT ILLNESS.

IS MORE OUTRAGEOUS THAN ANYTHING I THOUGHT I WOULD HEAR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO, COUNSEL, GETTING BACK TO THE DISCUSSION.

WE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO.

NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE, MEANING THE ALLEVE BANK FOR CITY PERSONNEL AND TELEWORKING IS IS THE WAY I RECALL OUR CONVERSATION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT? COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER. THE REASON WE HAVE THIS IS TO INCENTIVIZE TO GET VACCINATED. THAT'S THE REASON I WAS JUST BROUGHT UP.

WE HAVE 100. LAST YEAR, 110 WAS 150.

A HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR PEOPLE.

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR PEOPLE, AND THAT'S BEFORE THE DELTA VARIANTS.

AND NOW IS INCREASED TO OVER 50 PEOPLE AND WE STILL HAVE.

A LOT OF MONTHS TO GO BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR IN THIS DELTA VARIANTS AS.

A HAS GOTTEN WORSE, IS GOING TO GET WORSE BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

THE GOVERNOR. IF A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO FIRST RESPONDERS.

THERE WAS VACCINATED OR NOT? ALSO NOW THE BILL BANNING FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS.

MY TAX DOLLARS. AND I'M FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

THERE WAS DOING THEIR JOB.

AMONG THEM PROBABLY WAS NOT EVEN VASILY.

THE COUNTY GAVE.

MONEY. THE COUNTY WORKERS.

GET VACCINATED. THAT'S WHAT IS SENATE PLAN.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE DON'T.

AND I'M FOR WHEN IT COMES TO SPENDING FEDERAL DOLLARS, DOLLARS, I THINK I AGREE WITH MR. AND I THINK FEDERAL AND I WORK FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THEY WASTE MONEY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY GOT A BIG DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY THAT PUT

[03:40:07]

I'M FOR. MAKING THE LEAD BANK A CINETIC PROGRAM, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT, WHETHER YOU VACCINATED VACCINATE EMPLOYEES CAN GET THE DELTA VARIANTS THAT CAN GET COVERED AGAIN.

THEY GOT A BETTER CHANCE OF SURVIVING.

AND AFRICA SENATOR ADVISED THAT PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE OTHER EMPLOYEES TO GET VACCINATED.

MAYBE WE COULD SAVE SOME OF THIS FEDERAL DOLLARS NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THE DELTA VARIANTS OR CORONAVIRUS IS GOING TO BE AROUND ALMOST GUARANTEE IN 2022, MAYBE 2023 WHEN THIS MONEY RUNS OUT. THIS PROGRAM IS OVERWEIGHED.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET NO MORE MONEY.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE IT LAST AND USE IT WISELY AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING IF YOU'RE NOT ENCOURAGED TO GET A VACCINATION.

AND YOU DON'T WANT THIS LEE BANK, I'M OK WITH IT, AND THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.

IF YOU CAN'T GET IT BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS REASONS, YOU SHOULD GET THE PART OF THIS LEE BANK. IF YOU CAN'T GET IT BECAUSE OF YOUR MEDICAL CONDITION, MEDICAL REASON, YOU SHOULD BE PART OF THE SLEEPING.

OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU'RE OK AND YOU COULD GET THE VACCINATION AND YOU DON'T WANT TO GET IT, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS.

LIEBECK, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WASTE MONEY.

ON YOU BEING A AYE, WHEN I SAY YOU DON'T TELL MY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED.

HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SHUT DOWN A DEPARTMENT IN OUR CITY.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO BE PART OF THE SLEEPING.

AND I THINK AND.

HOPEFULLY NOT USE THE MONEY AT ALL.

IF WE HAVE EVERYBODY VACCINATED, MAYBE NOBODY GETS THE DELTA VARIANT.

MAYBE IF THEY GET IT, THEY'RE ONLY OUT A WEEK OR HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS OR THEY DON'T PASS AWAY OR THEY DON'T SPREAD IT TO ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO 80 HOURS DOESN'T WORK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I DON'T THINK IT WORKS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE NEED TO PASS BAILEY BANK USED AS A SENATE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GET THE VACCINATION, THAT'S FINE, YOU JUST DON'T GET THE LEAPING.

WE NEED TO MAKE THE LEAD BANK 120 HOURS AND PASS THAT AND ALSO PASS THE TELEWORKING, HAVE THE CITY MANAGER GO OR WITH THE TELO WORKING POLICY.

SO, COUNSEL, I JUST WANT TO DRAW US INTO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US RIGHT NOW, TODAY, AND BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION WE HAVE.

CONSENSUS HERE FOR THE LEAVE BANK AND CONSENSUS HERE FOR THE TELEWORKING, GET THAT SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, GET A POLICY TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE RIGHT NOW.

AND WE ALSO HAVE.

THE VOLUNTARY VACCINATION, BUT I FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHERE NO ONE ON THIS COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS IS HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT, THAT INCENTIVE OF 300 DOLLARS TO GO GET VACCINATED. SO WE'VE GOT TWO OF THE THREE ITEMS THAT I, I SENSE COUNCIL HAS CONSENSUS HERE. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HAVE THOSE TWO ITEMS SO WE COULD MOVE ON THAT.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENACT THE TEMPORARY BAILEY BENEFITS TO CITY PERSONNEL RELATED TO COVID-19 LEAVE BANK FOR CITY PERSONNEL AND TELEWORKING FOR EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.

I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND BY I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON GOING IN BY COUNCILMAN, FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AS MAYOR MONTGOMERY? ONLY THING I DO WANT TO LOOK INTO THE ONE.

WELL, SHE SAYS SHE ONLY LOOKED INTO 80 HOURS.

I DO WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BROUGHT UP IN THE FUTURE OF THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO JUST BLINDLY GO INTO ONE HOURS.

BUT I DO.

I TRUST I TRUST IN YOU, MICHALI, AND YOU KNOW THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SOMETHING CAN BE BROUGHT UP IN AMENDED IN THE FUTURE.

[03:45:01]

OK, BECAUSE AND CHIEF KNOWS WHEN WHEN IT FIRST STARTED HITTING, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS HIT HARD AND HEAVY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T STOP THAT THAT HUMAN INTERACTION DOES NOT STOP SAYING WE'RE FIREFIGHTERS.

AND WE'VE ALSO HAD INSTANCES AND I KNOW SOME OF THEM, WHERE PEOPLE WERE SPITTING ON THE POLICE. HE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO AND THAT ALONE WILL HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, OUT FOR 14 DAYS OR HOWEVER LONG, LIKE COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS SAYING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO SUPPORT THE 80.

I WANT TO SUPPORT THE 120, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT CUT, CUT AND CLEAR.

MS. COX. OH, THANK YOU.

AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON YOU WHEN YOU MENTIONED A CITIZEN SPIN ON OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, THEY TOOK ME BACK TO THE 80S WHERE HIV WAS A HUGE ISSUE, THE AIDS EPIDEMIC, AND THERE WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THAT WERE PLACED IN HARMS WAY BY JUST THE SPIT.

AND SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU JUST BROUGHT THAT UP, IT JUST TOOK ME BACK.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN, FELIX AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER THAT WENT AWAY IN COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

MAYOR, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING QUICK ABOUT I THINK THERE'S A COMPONENT ON WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER FOSTER WAS SAYING THAT WE MAY NOT TOUCH ON AS FAR AS THE 80 HOURS OR. WHATEVER 80 HOURS THAT WE ARE AGREEING ON RIGHT NOW, THE ASPECT THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER MENTIONED IS THAT SHOULD SOMEBODY CHOOSE NOT TO BE VACCINATED AT.

HE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT, WAS THAT WAS THAT CORRECT? WAS THAT I CORRECTLY SAID ON FOSTER? WELL, THAT'S THAT'S ONE AREA I DON'T THINK.

YOU KNOW, AS AS WE GET READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

LEAVE BACK THE 80 HOURS THAT'S OPEN FOR EVERYBODY, SHOULD YOU GET SICK, WHETHER YOU VACCINATE OR NOT? YOU HAVE FULL ACCESS TO IT, SHOULD YOU GET SICK OR HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF OR A LOVED ONE? WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL AS IF SINCE WE'RE TRYING THE EFFORT IS TO ENCOURAGE.

PEOPLE SHOULD DO THE RIGHT THING.

THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

AND AND WE HAD SAID THAT MAYBE WE COULD BRING THAT UP, YOU KNOW, AT A LATER TIME BEFORE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE MOTION.

OK, IN MOTION THAT JAY.

I MAY JUST PROVIDE CLARITY.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE RECORD, FOR STAFF THAT WORKED ON THIS, THAT THE GOAL FOR BRINGING FORTH THESE WAS NOT TO NECESSARILY ENCOURAGE VACCINATIONS SO MUCH AS IT WAS TO SAFEGUARD CITY OPERATIONS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE LEAD BANK ATTEMPTS TO DO, THE EMPLOYEE AND ENSURE THAT OPERATIONS CONTINUE AND THE JOBS ARE.

THANK YOU, MADAM MADAM BROWN, REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE COME COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

IF THAT WAS THE GOAL THEN AND I WILL WITHDRAW THE INCENTIVE FOR THE LEAD BANK THEN BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEE AND PROTECT CITY GOVERNMENT GOING FORWARD. SO I WOULD WITHDRAW THAT.

BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE CITY EMPLOYEES TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND GET VACCINATED.

THE REASON WHY I TALKED TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS, DEPUTY MAYOR AND I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THEM PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, AND THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM.

EIGHTY HOURS DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM, AND BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE JOB AND THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY THEY GO OUT.

I COULDN'T IMAGINE DOING.

POLICE WORK WITH A MASS ON MY FACE, INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC.

WE WANT TO DO I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE IN A UNIFORM WITH THIS MASK ON MY FACE.

I WOULD NOT WORD HAMAS, EVEN THOUGH I'M IN A VULNERABLE POPULATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE TO THE CORONAVIRUS.

BUT THE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE AT RISK EVERY TIME THEY STEP OUT THE VEHICLE, EVERY TIME THEY GO ON A CALL AND.

AND THEN. BECAUSE THEY'RE AT RISK, THEY'RE MORE AT RISK THAN SOMEONE SITTING IN AN OFFICE IN CITY HALL.

WE'RE IN A MASS AND SOCIAL JUST DISTANCING OFFICER AND A FIREFIGHTER CANNOT SOCIAL

[03:50:07]

THEY GOT TO PERFORM EMERGENCY PROCEDURES AND THEY GOT TO TOUCH PEOPLE.

THEY GOT TO HANDCUFF PEOPLE SO THEY ARE AT RISK AND THEY ARE AT RISK OF GOING HOME.

BRINGING IT TO THEIR FAMILY.

OH, YOU KNOW.

EIGHTY HOURS DOESN'T WORK FOR ME, AND I DON'T THINK IT WORKS FOR OUR OFFICER AND OUR.

AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR OF JOHNSON MADE THE MOTION IN COUNCILMAN FELIX SECONDED TO TO HAVE ITEM NUMBER TWO AND THREE WITH THE BANK AT 80.

BUT HE ALSO REQUESTED THE STUDY TO INCREASE THAT AND BE BROUGHT BACK TO TO COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE. SO COUNCILMAN OUR DEPUTY MAYOR.

JOHNSON, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? WILL IT HELP IF I PUT AN EXACT DATE LIKE THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING WITH THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME MUSKOX OR.

OR MS. BROWN, I'M SORRY, CULBURRA.

AT ONE TIME, I DO THINK IF WE MAKE IT THE NEXT MEETING, IT WILL IT WON'T GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO DO ANY TO DO RESEARCH, SUFFICIENT RESEARCH.

I WOULD IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT ON IT ON THE NEXT COUNT ON A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.

I WAS JUST THE ONE THERE AFTER.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I CAN LIVE WITH THAT IF YOU COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH SOME STATS.

ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT, SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL THE BILL ALL IN FAVOR? THIS IS UNANIMOUSLY WE'RE ON.

GUYS, OK, GET BACK THERE.

YOU DIDN'T GET THE VACCINE.

HELP ME, HELP ME, FATHER.

HELP ME, MADAM BROWN.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL REPORTS?

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]

WEST OF CITY COUNCIL TO CANCEL THE JOINT WORKSHOP FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION AND CITY COUNCIL. LEAVE AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW THE DATE OFFHAND THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR OR RATHER A QUORUM WAS BEING SOUGHT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE SET AS YET.

IT'S JUST THAT TYPICALLY ANNUALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL HOLDS A JOINT MEETING WITH THE PENSION BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND DUE TO PRESENTERS BEING AFFECTED BY COVID, UM, THEY ARE JUST UNABLE TO BE THERE. SO WE ON THE STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT IT BE CANCELED THIS YEAR.

I WAS THE GUY THAT SAW THE OTHER.

JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE IT PUBLICLY.

OK, THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND MENOM SMITH, YOU'RE UP FOR REPORTS.

I'LL JUST HAVE ONE MORE OH, AS YOU WORK.

I HAVE A REQUEST FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM BOVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR THEIR GRANT APPLICATION TO THE CDG AMITAY, THAT'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MITIGATION GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.

THEIR GRANT REQUEST IS FOR SCHOOL SYSTEM NEEDS AND UPGRADES REGARDING EMERGENCY ALERT BROADCAST BROADCAST SYSTEMS IN MANY OF THEIR EDUCATIONAL BUILDINGS, TWO OF WHICH WILL BE HERE IN PALM BAY. SO JUST FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING, I NEED COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO DRAFT A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO BE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

MAYOR JOHNSON. OK, WELL, IF WE BENEFIT FROM IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THEN I'M FOR IT.

SO. WE GOT THUMBS UP, WE GOT OK, WE GOT A THUMBS UP, SO YOU HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THAT.

ADAM SMITH, NOTHING FURTHER.

PUBLIC COMMENTS, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ENDICOTT'S.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

JUST WHEN YOU WHEN YOU FINISHED THIRD, JUST FILL OUT A CARD, AN ORANGE CARD.

SORRY TO MAKE YOU WAIT SO LONG, SO MAY OR MAY I? SO SO WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENT AREAS IN OUR AGENDA.

ONE IS TOWARDS THE BEGINNING, WHICH YOU LITERALLY LIKE JUST MS. BY FIVE MINUTES. THAT'S WHERE HE'S THIS MR. BATON SPOKE AND A FEW OTHERS.

AND THEN WE HAVE ONE AT THE VERY END.

SO SO JUST GOING FORTH, WE LOOK AT THE AGENDA, YOU'LL SEE PUBLIC COMMENTS TOWARDS THE BEGINNING, WHICH IS LIKE THE FIRST 20 OR 30 MINUTES.

YES. THEN TOWARDS THE END, SIR.

[03:55:01]

I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, I'M NEW AND I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD AN AGENDA FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND A POINT IS, IS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SAVING LIVES ABOUT KIDS MORE THAN ANYTHING.

AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I BROUGHT IT TO YOU BEFORE A SPEECH.

YOU DON'T TRY TO FIGHT FAST, A SPEED.

AND LIKE I SAID, SCHOOL BUS DROPS THEM OFF RIGHT AT BABCOCK IN WICHITA, OK? AND THAT STREET IS THE LONGEST STREET IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AS PEOPLE TO STAY ON OUR BLOCK BECAUSE WE TALK AMONG EACH OTHER, WE DON'T GO TO THE PROPER PLACE TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

AND I FIGURED THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE COULD TAKE A PETITION, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, STOP IT, BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS HAVE THE SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN BAD BEFORE ANYTHING IS DONE.

AND I DON'T WANT THE KIDS TO BE OUT THERE IN THE MORNING.

NO SIDEWALK, NO.

AND BABCOCK, THEY GO 60 MILES AN HOUR.

YOU KNOW, THE BIG TRUCKS NOW THROUGH WHAT'S IT ALL I'M SORRY, YOU GOT 18 WHEELERS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE A THOROUGHFARE.

WHAT ABOUT SPEED BUMPS? WHAT ABOUT CHANGING THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 30 TO 20? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO, BUT WE TALKED TO NEIGHBORS TALK AND BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO THE PROPER PLACE TO TALK ABOUT AND GET THE MESSAGE OVER.

AND I SAID BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE TWO MONTHS, BUT IT'S A BIG CONCERN BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN BEFORE.

A CHILD HAD TO DIE BEFORE THEY MADE IT 20 MILES AN HOUR AND, YOU KNOW, 20 MILES AN HOUR WITH A FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT.

AND WE DON'T NEED THAT HERE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THE BASIC THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BE HERE. I APPRECIATE IT TRULY.

THANK YOU. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? ANTON EVANS.

ANTON EVANS.

YES. WELL, MR. EVANS, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND OTHER OFFICIALS IN THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GO TO THE BEACH ANYMORE, OK? AND I CAN FISH.

SO I WANTED TO SEE HOW WE CAN.

WE'VE GOT WICHITA AND BABCOCK STREET.

AND I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE CHIEF JUST IS TAKING SOME NOTES THERE.

YES. AND OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MANAGER'S TAKEN SOME NOTES, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND FILLING OUT A SPEAKER CARD. SO WE GET YOUR INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN CONTACT YOU REGARDING THIS ISSUE. MORE THAN GLAD.

I USED TO DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY BEFORE I CAME.

I WAS IN OCALA FOR HOMELESS TO THE CHURCHES I DONATED AND I GAVE CLOTHES AND THEY HAVE FREE LUNCH FOR THE HOMELESS.

SO I WOULD TAKE FOOD, YOU KNOW, CANNED FOOD, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY CALLED IT.

SO STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT GIVING BECAUSE THE WORD ISN'T GETTING OUT ABOUT DONATIONS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S NOT GETTING OUT. SO IF ANYTHING I CAN DO TO LET THE NEIGHBORS KNOW, I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICE AND YOUR HEART, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. SURE.

MY PLEASURE. RON.

MR. BILL BEN SEE MASTER CHIEF.

AND 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, UNDER THIS PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'VE GOT THREE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE WORLD IS IN TURMOIL RIGHT NOW.

RECOGNIZING ALL THAT CASUALTIES IN HAITI, IT'S ALSO LOOKING AT ALSO LOOKING AT THE FACT OF AFGHANISTAN.

I SERVED IN THE TONKIN GULF AND I'VE SERVED IN THE PERSIAN GULF.

I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

YOU'D SAY A LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL HISTORY, PROBABLY DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ME, BUT I SERVED IN BOTH OF THOSE GULFS.

ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS A HATE AND DISCONTENT GOING EVERYWHERE.

BUT LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT HOW WE USE THE FUNDS THAT WE DO HAVE, DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO USE THAT FUNDS IN OUR IN OUR MEETING.

AND SECOND ITEM WAS THE INTERN OR CITY COUNCILMAN, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN MANY INTERNS THROUGHOUT THE STAFF, I'VE GONE WHERE THEY HAD INTERNS WORKING.

NOW, THE NEXT QUESTION, GILBERT, AND BEING WATCH YOUR DOLLAR PERSONALLY IS ARE YOU

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SO THERE IS A COST THAT COINCIDES WITH AN INTERN IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF SOME SORT.

SO JUST TRYING TO KEEP A LOOK AT IT.

I'M NOT AGAINST IT. I'M NOT 100 PERCENT IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE I HAVE GONE TO MANY, MANY LOCATIONS WHERE THE INTERNS WERE ALL I DEALT WITH WITHIN THE CITY AND THEY ARE DEFINITELY THERE. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, COULD YOU OPEN FILE NUMBER 13, PLEASE? THE CITY OF PALM BAY SET GUIDELINES ON HOW TO KEEP WHERE THEY COULD PARK THEIR CARS.

WE MADE A WHOLE BIG ORDINANCE.

I SEE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE ON YOUR GRASS.

IT CAN'T BE NEXT TO YOUR BUILDING IN THE END IF YOU'RE GOING TO PARK NEXT TO IT.

THEY SET ALL KINDS OF GUIDELINES AND IT HAD TO BE AN IMPROVED PARKING LOT, ALL KINDS OF RESTRICTIONS ON THE PERSON'S OWN PROPERTY LIKE WE HAVE.

NEXT PICTURE, PLEASE.

RIGHT, THIS IS THE VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT ONTO THE GRASS, SO RIGHT THROUGH THE CITY SWELL MAKING NICE.

WELL, IT'S NOT EVEN A TEMPORARY DRIVEWAY PERMIT, WHICH MEANS YOU PUT A PIPE IN AND YOU PUT THE DIRT ON IT. NOW I NOW LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PICTURE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. AND IT WAS GETTING SO BAD THAT THEY HAD TO START PUTTING PROTECTIVE DEVICES UP TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DRIVING IN OTHER LOCATIONS.

AND ONE MORE PICTURE, PLEASE.

AND THEY'RE COMING VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE ELECTRICAL OUTLETS, THE DRAIN OUTLETS AND THE OUTFLOWS. WELL, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS NOT LEADERSHIP BY EXAMPLE.

THIS IS THE CITY.

YET YOU'RE DICTATING TO THE RESIDENTS HOW THEY HAVE TO PARK, WHERE THEY CAN PARK AND THEY DON'T FALL. SO ALL I'M SAYING IS, LET'S HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LEADERSHIP BY EXAMPLE, CORRECT YOUR OWN BACKYARD BEFORE YOU START TELLING EVERYBODY ELSE HOW TO PROTECT THEIR BACKYARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU WOULDN'T MIND. BILL, WHERE IS THIS LOCATED? PARKS AND RECREATION MAIN OFFICE.

ON THE GROUP. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF, AND I WOULD NEVER CALL YOU THAT NAME, SIR.

SO PLEASE DON'T CALL YOURSELF THAT NAME.

WE HONOR WE HONOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US ABOUT AFGHANISTAN AND THE WORLD BEING IN TURMOIL.

AND AND THANK YOU AGAIN.

YOU SERVICE YOUR DEDICATION TO THIS GREAT NATION WE CALL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? THE FORWARD MR., GARY.

GOOD NIGHT AGAIN, ALFREDA, EIGHT MAIN STREET NADES, MR. GILBERTON, BRING UP A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I TRY TO PUT ACROSS THE BOARD TO TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I COMPLAIN ABOUT MAIN STREET.

I COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL OVER THE PLACE WHERE PARKING IS DONE BY THE CITY.

I'M SCREEN FENCE.

I GOT SEVERAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY IN KIRBY'S CIRCLE AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO PUT SCREEN OVER OVER THE CHAIN LINK FENCE.

THE CITY HAVE A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES AND ONE IS TWO BLOCKS FROM WHERE I'M LIVING ON MAIN STREET IN ARTY'S.

IT'S NOT SCREENED AND WE COULD PARK ALL OVER ON THE GRASS.

THE. WHAT IS COMBINING ALL THIS PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC SERVICE HAD CONTAINERS IN THIS YARD, YOU COULD YOU COULD EVEN SEE THE FENCE WHERE IT WAS ALL PACKED IN AND, YOU KNOW, LISTING NEED TO ADDRESS, AS I SAID, DO WHAT I SAY, BUT DON'T DO WHAT I DO.

THAT KIND OF POLICY IS NOT GOOD FOR THE CITIZEN BASED ON THE THE INCENTIVE FOR THIS VACCINE. I'M SO DISAGREEING THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A BRIBE, YOU'RE BRIBING THE CITIZEN, I MEAN, THE WORKERS TO TAKE A VACCINE, IN A SENSE, BECAUSE YOU'RE A WORKER MIGHT SAY, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A VACCINE, BUT BECAUSE YOU OFFERING CHEONGJU DOLLARS, YOU MAY JUST TAKE IT. WHAT IS LIKE DRIVING THE PERSON TO DO THE RIGHT THING? YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY GO FOR THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS, AS THE OTHER CITIZEN SAID, IF YOU PUT IT IN A WAY THAT IF THIS PERSON DON'T TAKE THE VACCINE, THEY DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF THE TWO WEEKS, THEN IT'S IT'S LIKE

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SO SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE WORDED.

POPULIST ANGER. THANK YOU, COUNCIL WANTED HE BROUGHT SOMETHING UP THAT JUST SPARKED MY MEMORY, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, HERE ON COUNCIL, I SERVED ON THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS AN AIDE, AS A STAFFER.

AND I FOUND THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WORKED VERY WELL IN THAT IN PARTICULAR WITH CODE SINCE WE ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH CODE.

YOU, MY COLLEAGUES HERE KNOW HOW THE COUNTY HANDLES CODE ISSUES, SO WHAT I LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU COUNCIL IS, IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE WITNESSED AND IT WORKS REALLY WELL.

THEY THEY LITERALLY HAVE A MAGISTRATE, AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER THAT DECIDES AND MAKES THOSE RULINGS AS IF IT WERE A JUDGE AND THEIR FINAL.

AND THEY'RE IT'S FUNDED THROUGH THOSE FINE.

THAT THAT AVOIDS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT.

PEOPLE REPORTING ON ON EACH OTHER AND FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S IN VIOLATION, WHO'S, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO RETALIATE WITH ANOTHER VIOLATION, AND IT KEEPS THE CITY IN A POSITION WHERE THE MAGISTRATE MAKES THE DECISION AND, YOU KNOW, APPLIES THE FINES ACCORDINGLY AS OPPOSED TO ANYONE ELSE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.

THE COUNSEL THAT I'VE NOTICED, PERHAPS YOU CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND IN LOOKING AT THAT, BUT I THINK IT WORKS REALLY WELL.

IT HAS FOR FOUR DECADES THAT I'VE SEEN HIM.

AND I WOULD I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO RELEASE RESEARCH THAT WOULD LOOK AT THAT SO THAT MAYBE WE COULD BRING THIS UP AND AND DISCUSS THIS FURTHER.

I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO THAT, BECAUSE MY TWO YEARS ON COUNCIL, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, I'VE WHEN I GET COLD, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT ALREADY, MAYOR.

I SEE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AMONG NEIGHBORS.

OH, THEY CALLED ON ME.

I'M A CALL ON THEM AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO HAVING, YOU KNOW, A THIRD PARTY OR SOMEBODY SEPARATE, I CAN DEFINITELY GET BEHIND THIS. I'LL LOOK INTO IT MYSELF.

YOU KNOW, IF I HAD A LEGISLATIVE AIDE IN TURN, THEY COULD LOOK INTO IT, BUT I DEFINITELY WILL LOOK INTO IT AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, FELIX AND FOSTER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THE.

CORRECT, THEIR BOARDS AND THEIR THEIR BOARD MEMBERS THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, RETALIATE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, TOO.

AND SO. YEAH.

STRAIGHT, STILL GET INVOLVED, MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION.

DON'T WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT COMES IN? YEAH, BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO GET TO THE MAGISTRATE, IT TAKES IT NO PUNCHES SAYS NO PUN INTENDED. IT TAKES AN ACT OF CONGRESS.

SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS PRIOR TO BEFORE IT GETS TO LET IT BE A STAND ALONE.

SEE, THE COUNTY DOES IT THIS WAY.

THEY THEY. MEDIATE WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SAY THEIR WHOLE MISSION IS TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN COMPLIANCE.

THAT'S THE GOAL, RIGHT? WHEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THEN IT GOES TO THE MANAGERS.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NOT.

IT'S JUST THERE'S THE MEDIATION IS WITH THE CODE OFFICER.

THEN IT GOES TO THE MAGISTRATE.

IF THAT MEDIATION DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT GOES TO THE MAGISTRATE.

THE MAGISTRATE MAKES THAT DECISION AND THAT DECISION, THAT RULING IS FINAL AND THAT THAT'S HOW IT TYPICALLY WORKS.

MAYOR OF BOSTON COLLEGE BROWN ALSO JUST MADE ME AWARE THE CITY OF COCOA HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR AS WELL. GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD. I WASN'T INTENDING ON SPEAKING ON IT BECAUSE I WASN'T ACTUALLY I DIDN'T WORK WITH CODE DIRECTLY.

ACTUALLY, OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, NANCY, BUT SHE ACTUALLY OVERSAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO MY THOUGHT WAS WE COULD DEFINITELY TAP INTO OUR OWN RESOURCE HERE ON STAFF AND DISCUSS HOW THAT WORKED WITH THE CITY OF COCOA.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. INTO.

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JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I KNOW IT HAS COME UP BEFORE, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE PRIOR CODE ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR, I THINK IT WAS OUR MANAGER, ARE WE SEEKING TO REPLACE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WITH THE MAGISTRATE? THAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE COUNTY DOES IT? YES, MA'AM. YES, IT'S CERTAINLY PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE STATUTES AND IT'S COME UP A FEW TIMES. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

THAT WOULD ACTUALLY JUST BE AMENDING THE ORDINANCE.

YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS.

ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL, BEFORE WE ADJOURN? ALL RIGHT. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.