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MADAM SHERMAN, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU.
AH, SORRY. GOOD EVENING, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH OUR FIRST OF TWO
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BUDGET HEARINGS FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.NOW, TO BEGIN WITH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH A REQUIRED STATEMENT THAT I NEED TO READ INTO THE RECORD SO EVERYONE CAN BEAR WITH ME.
IT'LL JUST TAKE ME A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO READ THROUGH IT ALL.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS TENTATIVELY ADOPTED AN OPERATING MILITARY RATE OF SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022 TO THE TENTATIVE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT EXCEEDS THE TRIM CURRENT YEAR AGGREGATE ROLLBACK RATE OF SEVEN POINT FOUR ONE FOUR TWO BY FIVE POINT SEVENTY ONE PERCENT.
THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE BEING ABOVE THE THREE PERCENT CAP IS CAUSED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE THREE PERCENT CAP CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATING MILITARY.
INCREASE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE IS.
ACTUARIAL REQUIREMENT INCREASES OF FOURTEEN POINT FIVE, FIVE PERCENT TO POLICE AND FIRE PENSIONS. DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENT INCREASE OF FIVE POINT NINETY SEVEN PERCENT.
ANTICIPATED HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFIT, ASSOCIATED EXPENDITURE INCREASES OF FIVE PERCENT.
AN ADDITIONAL FULL TIME EMPLOYEE POSITIONS, INCLUDING POLICE OFFICERS, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, RECORD SPECIALISTS AND MATERIALS MANAGEMENT TECHNICIAN TO ACCOMMODATE INCREASING CITYWIDE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE NEEDS.
GENERAL FUND LIABILITY, STORMWATER UTILITY FUND, INSTITUTIONAL EXEMPTIONS TOTALING TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED NINETY SEVEN DOLLARS AND ROAD MAINTENANCE FUNDING TO MEET THE GOAL OF SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.
CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS ALSO TENTATIVELY ADOPTED A DEBT MILLAGE RATE OF ONE POINT THREE FOUR TWO FOUR FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2020 TO.
THE TENTATIVE DEBT MILITARY SHALL GENERATE ESTIMATED REVENUES TOTALING SIX MILLION, NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO.
THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THIRTY NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY TWO THOUSAND THIRTY SIX DOLLARS BASED ON THE GROSS TAXABLE VALUE CERTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE.
THESE REVENUES ARE RESTRICTED AND ARE DESIGNATED FOR PAYMENT OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2019 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT TOTALING THREE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT TOTALING THREE MILLION FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS IN A TWO CENTS.
BOTH DO IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO BUDGET YEAR.
ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS ARE INVITED TO ATTEND A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREASE TO BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2021, AT SIX P.M.
IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED AT 120 MALABAR ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA, THREE TWO NINE SEVEN.
A FINAL DECISION ON THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE MADE AT THAT HEARING. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY ASK ANGELICA COLLINS TO COME UP AND PROVIDE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL TO KIND OF PROVIDE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR WHAT'S CHANGED SINCE WE LAST BROUGHT YOU THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND JUST BIG PICTURE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE BUDGET ITSELF. COULD EVEN COUNSEL.
MY NAME IS ANGELICA COLLINS, AND I'M THE FISCAL MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY MS. FINANCE ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT.
TONIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH WAS PUBLISHED ON JULY 27TH TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH CHANGES, WHICH WAS PUBLISHED ON AUGUST 18TH.
SO THIS HAPPENS FREQUENTLY THAT WE HAVE SOME UPDATES TO OUR REVENUES, AND WITH THAT, THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT OCCUR FROM THAT PROPOSED TO THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES.
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT THOSE TONIGHT.
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AND THOSE WERE ALREADY DISTRIBUTED AND THEY ALREADY POSTED TO OUR WEBSITE.SO THE TOPICS OF REVIEW, AGAIN, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES BUDGET SUMMARY. I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME CITYWIDE CHANGES AND THEN SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON THE GENERAL FUND.
WE'LL DISCUSS THE REVENUES BY SOURCE EXPENDITURES, BY TYPES AND EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN AGAIN, WE'LL HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANT UPDATES AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND SOME UPCOMING DATES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
SLIDE THREE WILL PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES BUDGET, SO OUR CITYWIDE FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO PROPOSED WITH CHANGES BUDGET HAD INCREASED BY ROUGHLY ABOUT THREE POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS, OR ONE POINT SEVEN PERCENT, FROM THE INITIAL PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN JULY. WE HAD SIX FUNDS THAT HAD IMPACTING CHANGES AND GENERALLY THE BIGGEST ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN OR THE ARPA FUNDING.
THE NEXT THREE SLIDES ARE GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL OF WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE.
SO THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE BUDGET ITSELF AND ALL THE ACCOUNTS.
SO SLIDE FOUR IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY AND THE CHANGES OF WHAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE GENERAL FUND, SO LIKE I ALWAYS MENTION THE GENERAL FUND, IS SHE REALLY YOUR MOST IMPORTANT, AS IS THE LARGEST AND OUR CHIEF PRIMARY OPERATING FUND AND WHERE OUR AD VALOREM TAXATION IS COLLECTED AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS EITHER FULLY OR PARTIALLY OPERATE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT ONE IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT.
SO WHAT HAS OCCURRED? WE'VE HAD SOME REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ADJUSTMENTS THAT I HAVE MADE BASED ON REVENUE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED OR SOME CHANGES WITH SOME AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
ONE OF THE LARGER ONES IS THAT INITIALLY IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE WERE DESIGNATED TO HAVE TWO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS OR SROS THAT WE AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE DOING THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE HAD NOT FINALIZED THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE THOSE PARTICULAR SCHOOLS.
ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PINEAPPLE COVE AND ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO ODYSSEY.
CHARTER. AND SINCE THE PROPOSED HAD BEEN PUBLISHED TO MY UNDERSTANDING, ODYSSEY CHARTER HAD HAD A PREFERENCE OF A FULL TIME POLICE OFFICER RATHER THAN AN SRO.
SO THAT CHANGES THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE SRO IS WITH AN SRO COMES A REVENUE STREAM THAT THE CITY DOES COLLECT OF THIRTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO FOR US, CHANGING THAT STAFFING FROM AN SRO TO A POLICE OFFICERS HAD TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE.
SO I HAVE TAKEN OUT ONE SRO, SO THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES BUDGET, YOU WILL SEE ONE SRO VERSUS THE TWO.
AND THAT MEANT THAT WE HAD EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS ON OUR SIDE FROM ABOUT SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY TWO DOLLARS BECAUSE AS SROS WERE BUDGETED AT A NINE MONTHS TOTAL VERSUS THE FULL YEAR.
AND WE ALSO HAD TO REDUCE THE REVENUE BY THIRTY ONE THOUSAND BECAUSE AS OF THE END, AS OF THE UNDERSTANDINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH THOSE CHARTER SCHOOLS AND WITH WITH GENERAL BROWARD COUNTY SCHOOLS, THAT SRO STAFFING DOES BRING IN SOME REVENUE TO OFFSET THOSE EXPENDITURES. SO IN LIEU OF THAT, POLICE STAFFING HAD ALSO CHANGED.
SO OUR POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS WE HAD TO BUDGETED AT SIX MONTHS, WE'VE NOW ADDED THREE.
SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE CHANGE.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY ONLY AN INCREASE OF FIFTY THOUSAND TO SEVENTY FIVE.
SO THAT FIRST YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A SAVINGS GOING FROM AN SRO TO A POLICE OFFICER BECAUSE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE ONLY STAFFING AT A BUDGET OF SIX MONTHS FOR THE FIRST YEAR. BUT THEN IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE OBVIOUSLY THE FULL FULL YEAR FOR THOSE POSITIONS.
WE JUST ALSO HAD DONE SOME UPGRADES IN POLICE.
WE HAD OUR RECORD SUPERVISOR, ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY, OFFICE MANAGER AND A VICTIM'S ADVOCATE, WHICH INCREASED THE BUDGET BY FOURTEEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY DOLLARS WHEN I WORKED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET STAFF.
WE NOTICED THERE WAS SOME PSYCHOLOGICAL TESTING COSTS THAT WERE DUPLICATED, SO WE ONLY TOOK IT TOOK OUT $300.
SO IT WAS SOME DUPLICATION THAT HAPPENED.
AND THEN ALSO, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD REQUESTED TO ADD 11 POLICE ACADEMY SPONSORSHIPS TOTALING THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED THIRTY TWO.
WE'VE ONLY ADDED THOSE 11 BECAUSE THE OTHER POSITIONS, THE OTHER POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS THAT WE ARE ADDING TO THE BUDGET ALREADY HAVE THAT SPONSORSHIP INCLUDED.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY PROVIDING EXPENDITURES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO GO THROUGH THE POLICE ACADEMY.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY YOUR MAJOR CHANGES.
WE DID HAVE A MINOR CHANGE THAT OCCURRED THIS FISCAL YEAR IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE.
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THAT DOES IMPACT FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO.SO OUR IT DIRECTOR ON AUGUST 5TH ON YOUR REGULAR SCHEDULE COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA ON AUGUST 5TH DID RECEIVE A RAISE.
AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, I WAS ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO THAT RAISE THAT YOU'RE GIVING THAT STAFF MEMBER FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE ALREADY ALSO HAS AN IMPACT ON TWENTY TWO BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET, WE BASED ON THE PREVIOUS SALARY. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER INCREASE OF TWENTY THREE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE. SO ACTUALLY, OUTSIDE OF THE REVENUE DECREASE, ALL OTHER EXPENDITURES THAT YOU SEE EARNING ADJUSTMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE FROM THAT CONTINGENCY BALANCE THAT WE HAD PUT ASIDE. SO INITIALLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE HAD SHOWN YOU THAT WE DID HAVE A CONTINGENCY BALANCE THAT WE SET ASIDE.
WE STILL IN SOME CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND WE WERE SETTING ASIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS BECAUSE OF STATE SHARED REVENUES THAT WERE SORT OF TRICKLING IN.
SO I WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO USE CONTINGENCY DOLLARS TO OFFSET THOSE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES. SO YOUR BUDGET IN TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND ACTUALLY DIDN'T GO UP.
IT WENT DOWN THIRTY ONE THOUSAND BECAUSE I DID HAVE TO REDUCE THAT REVENUE.
HMM. RIGHT, SLIDE FIVE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF CHANGES OF ALL THE OTHER FUNDS.
WE DO HAVE FIVE FIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE HAD MADE CHANGES TO.
SORRY. LET ME SKIP OVER THE FIRST ONE WITH A PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION.
I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS COME UP.
LET ME REVIEW THE OTHER FOUR FIRST AND THEN WE'LL RETURN TO THE TO THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS NEED TO BE MADE.
SO THE BIGGEST ONE THAT YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IS THAT OUR DOLLARS ARE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.
SO AT OUR PREVIOUS BUDGET WORKSHOP IN AUGUST, WE HAD ASKED IF IT WAS OK TO INCLUDE $4 MILLION IN TOTAL, $2 MILLION FOR BUILDING A TRUNK CONTRIBUTION AND $2 MILLION FOR A NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH CHANGES.
AND WE DID RECEIVE THAT DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, SO I WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED IT. SO THAT IS WHY THAT FUND ARE IN TOTAL.
REALLY, OUR CITY BUDGET DID HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, BUT THAT IS ARPA FUNDING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY SITTING THERE.
AND SO WE DID RECEIVE THAT DIRECTION TO HAVE UNDER THAT CATEGORY OF LOST REVENUE.
WE'RE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE THAT.
SO I WENT AHEAD AND CREATED A PROJECT FOR THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND WE DID CONTRIBUTE THE ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION IN ADDITION TO WHAT UTILITIES AND BUILDING IS PUTTING IN.
WE'RE BUILDING. UTILITIES RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND.
WE ACTUALLY REMOVED A PROJECT TOTALING $120000, SO THEY ACTUALLY FOUND FUNDING THIS YEAR, SO WE FUNDED IT THIS YEAR, SO THAT'S WHY I HAD TO TAKE IT OUT FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE LAST TWO BULLETS, WHICH IS THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND AND OTHER EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUNDS, THOSE HAD TO BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE OF THE PERSONNEL ADJUSTMENTS I DID.
SO THOSE ARE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.
SO THOSE ARE WORKERS COMPENSATION AND HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND AS SOON AS I MAKE ADJUSTMENT IN ANY PERSONNEL THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE ADJUSTED. SO IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE DOLLARS FOR RISK MANAGEMENT AND A DECREASE AND A DECREASE OF ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND ONE DOLLARS FOR THE OTHER EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. AND THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE FTE SRO POLICE OFFICER CHANGE I HAD TO DO.
I HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT MATCHES ON THAT END.
SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION, SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS AND A LOT OF EMAILS THAT I'VE HAD TODAY IN REGARDS TO THIS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT I TRANSFERRED THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM RESERVE TO THE MAYOR'S BALL OPERATING ACCOUNTS AND HAS ZERO NET IMPACT.
SO MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE USED THE WORD TRANSFER, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS IS THAT WE GO INTO WE BUILD A BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, AND IT IS A STANDALONE FUND.
THERE ARE NO OTHER REVENUES THAT COME IN.
THE ONLY THING THAT REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED IN THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION IS AT THE MOMENT IT'S TICKET SALES FOR THE MAYOR'S BALL AND ANY DONATIONS OR CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ANYONE WISHES TO MAKE.
SO THERE ARE NO GENERAL FUND TAX DOLLARS THAT GO TO IT.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY A STANDALONE FUND.
AND THE ONLY WAY THAT THE REVENUE IS GENERATED IS AT THE MOMENT THROUGH THOSE TWO AVENUES, THOUGH IT'S GENERALLY BEEN THE APPROVED AVENUES OF GENERATING THOSE DOLLARS THROUGH THE MAYOR'S BALL. WHEN I BUILT THE BUDGET, IT ACTUALLY OUR PREVIOUS FINANCE DIRECTOR, WHO'S ALSO FOR THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, SERVES AS THE TREASURER FOR THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION AND OUR PREVIOUS FINANCE DIRECTOR USED TO PREPARE THEM ALL THE TIME.
AND THEN WHEN SHE LEFT, I KIND OF STEPPED IN AND I PREPARED THEM, AND WHAT I MS. TO DO WAS I WENT AHEAD AND INDICATED OR BUDGETED FOR AN ESTIMATED THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REVENUE THAT THAT FUND WOULD GENERATE THROUGHOUT FISCAL YEAR.
TWENTY TWO. I DID NOT BUDGET THE SIDE ON THE EXPENDITURES, AND I ESSENTIALLY JUST ADDED
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THAT BUDGET TO RESERVES, MEANING THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING ON BRINGING THIRTY THOUSAND IN AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT TO RESERVES.SORT OF LIKE YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
AND THEN WHEN I WENT THROUGH AND DID THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES AND I'M REVIEWING ALL ACCOUNTS JUST MAKING SURE I HAVE EVERYTHING, I NOTICE THAT I DID NOT BUDGET TO THE $30000 ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE.
I DIDN'T BUDGET IN THE APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTS.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A BUDGET CORRECTION.
I'M NOT TRANSFERRING ANYTHING ON MY END.
I CONSIDER IT A TRANSFER BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO FROM A RESERVES ACCOUNT, AND THAT BUDGET HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED TO ALL THE APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTS, MEANING YOUR VENUE, YOU THE FOOD THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE MAYOR'S BALL, ANY KIND OF CONTRIBUTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SET ASIDE.
SO IF THE MAYOR CHOOSES TO DO A CONTRIBUTION TO A CERTAIN ORGANIZATION SO THEY ALL HAVE EXPENDITURE ACCOUNTS AND THEY'RE USUALLY BUDGETED WITH THE SAME AS THE REVENUE COMING IN, AND I MS. TO DO THAT.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY, FOR ME, A BUDGET CORRECTION.
SO WE'RE NOT USING RESERVES, WE'RE NOT TRANSFERRING ANY CASH.
THIS IS SIMPLY JUST A BUDGET LOOK AHEAD AND THE $30000 IS BASED ON FISCAL YEAR 18 AND NINE TO I WANT TO SAY IT'S 19 AND 20 ACTUALS, USUALLY AROUND TWENTY FOUR TO TWENTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS IS WHAT I'VE SEEN GENERATED IN THE EXPENSES.
OF COURSE, THIS YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE, WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MAYOR'S BALLS. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE REVENUE.
WE HAVE A FEW MISCELLANEOUS CONTRIBUTIONS, BUT YOU WON'T ACTUALLY WON'T SEE ANY REVENUE OR ANY EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ASK NOW OR WE CAN WAIT UNTIL THE END. I KNOW THAT ONE.
YEAH, THANKS, ANGELIQUE COUNCILWOMAN.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT WHAT SHE JUST EXPLAINED? USUALLY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER ON IT.
YEAH, SO YEAH, I WAS THE ONE WHO WAS SENDING THE EMAILS JUST WHEN YOU SAID TRANSFER OUT.
I WAS LIKE, OK, WAIT A SECOND.
SO THEN SO I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING BECAUSE MY CONCERN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN A PART OF IT FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALLOCATING THIRTY THOUSAND, BUT WHAT IF WE ONLY RAISED TWENTY THOUSAND? WHERE DOES THAT TENT $10000 GAP GET MADE UP OR? RIGHT? SO SO WE'RE NOT REALLY.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, WE'RE REALLY NOT ALLOCATING.
IT'S YOU'RE ANTICIPATING ON GENERATING THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REVENUE.
SO THIS IS YOUR ESTIMATED BUDGET.
WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED FUND BALANCE.
THE FUND ITSELF DOES HAVE A FUND BALANCE OR THAT BUCKET OF SAVINGS, WHICH IS, I THINK, UPHOLD IT. AND LET ME HAVE IT.
I HAVE THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION.
THOSE ARE THE FUND ITSELF HAS A FUND BALANCE OF THIRTY THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY ONE DOLLARS AND EIGHTY FOUR CENTS.
SO THAT IS SAVINGS THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER VARIOUS YEARS.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S SORT OF LIKE GENERAL FUND BALANCE HAS A FUND BALANCE.
SO WHEN I'M ALLOCATING THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS NEXT YEAR, I'M NOT TOUCHING THAT FUND BALANCE. SO THIS IS JUST THE BUDGET IS, I ANTICIPATE ON GENERATING THIRTY THOUSAND REVENUE. AND TO OFFSET THAT, BECAUSE MY FUND REVENUE ALWAYS HAS TO BALANCE WITH THE EXPENDITURES, I GO AHEAD AND SAY THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS BASED ON WHAT'S PREVIOUSLY ITEMS HAVE COST. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUDGET.
SO IF YOU ONLY GENERATE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND IN REVENUE BUT YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE LOWER, THEN YOU HAVE SOME SAVINGS IN THOSE FUNDS.
FALL TO FUND BALANCE, RIGHT? IF YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE HIGHER AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THEN WE DIP INTO FUND BALANCE TO OFFSET THAT, SO IT WORKS THE SAME WAY AS EVERY OTHER FUND DOES.
YEAH, SO THAT WAS MY GO AHEAD, MAYOR.
SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, I HAD QUESTIONS MYSELF.
NO, YOU'RE NOT. AND THIS WASN'T GO AHEAD.
AND I CONTACTED MS. SHERMAN. HEY, THIS DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
WHAT'S WHAT'S UP? AND SO IT WAS EXPLAINED THAT AFTER THE FACT, BUT I WAS RIGHT ALONG WITH YOU.
OK, THE MAYOR'S BALL WILL BE DOING SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE, BUT CERTAINLY I DON'T WANT ANY TAX DOLLARS GOING INTO THAT TYPE OF FUND, AND IT GOES TO THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP FOR COUNCIL AND IT GOES TO WHAT MR. BATTEN SAID DURING THE MEETING WE HAD REGARDING DONATIONS TO HAITI.
LIKE THERE WAS THE MISCONCEPTION THAT WE WERE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, DONATING TO HAITI WHEN THEY WERE ALL DONATIONS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP.
I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING ME WITH THAT.
AND MAYOR, WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT, TOO.
SO SIR COUNCILMAN? ANYONE ELSE? CARRY ON, MA'AM.
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ALL RIGHT. SLIDE SIX SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.IT'S JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS BUDGET WORKSHOP.
IS THIS JUST PROVIDING YOU A CITYWIDE OVERVIEW OF A BUDGET BY FUND? OF COURSE, GENERAL FUND WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR LARGEST.
IT'S OUR LARGEST AND CHIEF OPERATING FUND AND OUT OF THE TOTAL CITYWIDE BUDGET OF TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO POINT SEVEN MILLION, THE GENERAL FUND IS APPROXIMATELY THIRTY FIVE POINT EIGHT PERCENT, WHICH IS ABOUT EIGHTY THREE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS.
SO THIS IS JUST A DISCLOSURE OF WHAT THE CITYWIDE BUDGET WILL LOOK LIKE IF WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES BUDGET.
SLIDE SEVEN, WE'LL DISCUSS YOUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES BY SOURCE.
SO THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND OF EIGHTY THREE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS.
SO AS WE ALWAYS SAY THAT PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF AD VALOREM TAXATION AT THE THREE PERCENT CAP OF SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE PLUS ANY DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS TOTALS UP TO A LITTLE OVER THIRTY EIGHT MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT FORTY FIVE POINT SEVEN PERCENT. AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU KNOW, WE DO LIKE THE SECOND LARGEST STREAM IS OBVIOUSLY OUR INTER-GOVERNMENTAL REVENUE AND OUR STATE SHARED REVENUE THAT DOES COME IN FROM THE STATE AND THE PROPOSED WITH BUDGET CHANGE.
BUDGET DOES NOT REFLECT THOSE UPDATES YET.
SO HONESTLY, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE'VE MET, THIS HAS NOT CHANGED GREATLY.
SO IT'S BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY STAGNANT THAT YOU'LL SEE.
THE SLIDE EIGHT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY TYPE AGAIN OF THE EIGHTY THREE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS, YOUR PERSONNEL SERVICE ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT FIFTY EIGHT POINT SIX MILLION, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 70 PERCENT.
JUST A REMINDER THAT WITHIN THE PERSONAL SERVICES, THAT DOES INCLUDE A THREE PERCENT INCREASE FOR ALL GENERAL EMPLOYEES, ALL CONTRACTUAL EMPLOYEES AND CITY COUNCIL.
AND YOU REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CHANGES, MANY CHANGES SINCE THE PREVIOUS PREVIOUS BUDGET WORKSHOP. BUT THERE ONE MORE THING.
SORRY. BACK TO ROAD MAINTENANCE, WE AS COUNCIL RECEIVED THE EMAIL, BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC CAN EXPLAIN.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR THE PALM BAY MEDINA CELL, HOW MUCH IS GOING INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE PORTION? SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE FINAL NUMBERS YET.
I KNOW THE MARINA SALE DID GO AND THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN BETWEEN CRA AND THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT SINCE WE WERE ON IT, I WAS JUST LIKE.
HAVE IT OR. YES, SO THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP LAST WEEK AT ONE OF OUR MEETING AT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, SO THE SALE OF THE MARINA PROPERTY HAD SEVERAL PARCELS TO ARE OWNED SOLELY BY THE SIERRA.
AND THE THIRD IS JOINTLY OWNED BY THE CITY AND THE CRA.
AFTER CLOSING COSTS AND BROKERS COMMISSION, THE TOTAL PROCEEDS FOR THE SALE WAS ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO DOLLARS AND SIX CENTS BASED ON CALCULATIONS AND OWNERSHIP INTERESTS.
NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THREE DOLLARS AND SEVENTY SEVEN CENTS WAS DEPOSITED INTO THE BAYFRONT SIERRA FUND.
THAT LEAVES A BALANCE THAT WENT INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, WHICH IS SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT DOLLARS AND TWENTY NINE CENTS THAT WENT INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
ALSO JUST AS FOLLOW UP AS WELL, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP LAST WEEK WAS IN ADDITION TO THE $750000 WE'RE PROPOSING PUTTING INTO THE BUDGET FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR.
THE QUESTION WAS WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE FUND CURRENTLY ABOUT $3.8 MILLION.
AND I THINK THREE POINT ONE MILLION OR SO IS DEDICATED TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO KIND OF ALREADY DESIGNATED THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND AND CHANGE THAT IS CURRENTLY UN DESIGNATED.
I THINK THAT MOST OF THE FOLLOW UP FROM LAST WEEK.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, AND YOU'LL SEE THE RECORDING OF THE MARINA SALE ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT, AND I THINK WE JUST BECAUSE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOUR IS GOING THROUGH CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS NOW, SO MORE THAN LIKELY IT'LL BE ON THE FIFTH BUDGET AMENDMENT AS YOU'LL SEE IT. SO WE JUST HAD TO GET THE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE CRA VERSUS THE GENERAL FUND SIDE DOWN FIRST BECAUSE OF THE PARCELS.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S GET BACK TO SLIDE NINE, WHICH IS YOUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, NOT MANY CHANGES.
WE'VE HAD SOME UPDATES, OBVIOUSLY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU'LL SEE WITH THE STAFFING. SO AGAIN, OUT OF THE EIGHTY THREE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS, YOU WILL SEE PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF FIRE AND POLICE ACCOUNTS FOR THE LARGEST BUDGET,
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WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF FORTY ONE POINT NINE MILLION.AND POLICE WILL HAVE THE HIGHEST PART OF THAT AT ALMOST 25 MILLION AND FIRE AT SIXTEEN POINT NINE. SO REALLY, POLICE WILL BE THE HIGHEST DEPARTMENT THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE EXPENDITURES ALLOCATIONS IN THE BUDGET.
ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT SOME IMPORTANT UPCOMING DATES.
SO AFTER THIS EVENING, I DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO DO AN ADVERTISEMENT AND THAT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 17.
WHAT WE WILL BE ADVERTISING IN THE FLORIDA TODAY, IT WILL STILL BE IN THE HARD COPY.
I DO BELIEVE BECAUSE THE LEGISLATORS LEGISLATURE CHANGES FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE, I MAY BE ALLOWED TO DO IT ONLINE.
SO THERE ARE SOME CHANGES HAPPENING, BUT THAT WILL NOT IMPACT THIS ROUND.
SO YOU'LL STILL SEE A HARD COPY ADVERTISEMENT AND WE WILL BE DOING THE NOTICE OF TAX INCREASE IN THE BUDGET SUMMARY.
I'VE ALREADY HAD THEM REVIEWED BY FLORIDA TODAY.
THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN ME THE PROOF AND I'VE ALREADY HAD THEM GO THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR OUR COMPLIANCE, SO EVERYTHING IS SET TO GO.
AND OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR FLORIDA STATUTES, WILL BE HOSTED ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND.
SO THIS IS OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THE MILITARY IN THE BUDGET, AND THAT IS AT SIX O'CLOCK AND THIS LOCATION AS WELL.
SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND I HAVE SOME FUN THINGS TO SHOW TO.
I'VE ATTACHED THEM TO EVERYONE'S EVERYONE'S POCKET.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME ASKS AND I TOOK MY BUDGET HAT OFF AND I PUT MY CREATIVE HAT ON FOR FOUR. I FEEL LIKE IT WAS LIKE TWO WEEKS.
I DO HAVE THEM ELECTRONICALLY AND I KNOW BRIAN CAN PULL THEM UP.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THEM AND I HAVE HARD COPIES TOO, IF ANYONE WANTS TO TAKE SOME TO GO WHERE THE AUDIENCE, BUT SO WE CAN PULL THEM UP NOW.
OK, SO I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
THE DOLLAR SIGN FIRST, I KNOW THE DOLLAR SIGN WAS THE BIG THING.
WE USED TO HAVE A PULL DOWN DOLLAR SIGN.
I DO. I BELIEVE IT WAS HERE BEFORE THERE WAS THE FLOOD, SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS DAMAGED. I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT IS OUTDATED INFORMATION ANYWAY.
I THINK BASED ON TWENTY SIXTEEN NUMBERS.
SO I CAME UP WITH THIS AND I BECAME VERY CREATIVE AND I SAID, HEY, THIS WILL WORK.
SO WE DON'T HAVE IT IN BY PRINT YET OR WE DON'T HAVE A POLL DOWN YET.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO NUMBERS AND GO THROUGH THE APPROVED BUDGET PROCESS.
BEFORE WE GO AHEAD WITH ANGELICA, I JUST WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND COUNCILMAN FOSTER. SURE.
WHO? I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING BLIND OR YOU DID A TRICK ON ME HERE, AND IT'S DOLLAR SIGN, IF YOU TURN IN A CERTAIN WAY, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT GEORGE WASHINGTON AT YALE.
OH, IF YOU TURN IT UPSIDE, OH NO, IT LOOKS.
THIS IS THE PRINT. I DON'T KNOW.
YOU SEE THAT. OR DO I'M SEEING SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I DON'T KNOW. IT LOOKS LIKE A BAR.
YOU TURN IT SIDEWAYS. YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE HIS CUT IN HALF.
OH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT GEORGE WASHINGTON IN JAIL, BUT YOU DID A GOOD JOB.
THANK YOU. BUT I, WITH MY EYES, WAS PLAYING TRICKS.
YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND HE HE WAS A UNITED STATES MARSHAL, SO THAT JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT PERSPECTIVE. THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
YES. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS ESSENTIALLY A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, GENERATING A DOLLAR WITHIN THE CITY WHERE THE DOLLAR GOES, SO IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY SCENT.
SO I KNOW IT'S LITTLE, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS.
SO YOU WILL SEE THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, PER THE DOLLAR.
YOU HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS WHERE ONE CENT TO YOUR DOLLAR IS WHERE THOSE WHERE THAT IS ALLOCATED. SO YOU HAVE YOUR LEGISLATIVE, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY PROCUREMENT, HUMAN RESOURCES AND COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
TWO CENTS TO THE DOLLAR GOES TO CITY MANAGERS OFFICE FINANCE.
AND IF YOU CAN SCROLL UP EITHER.
I THINK THAT'S GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S IT. UM, AND THEN THREE CENTS TO THE DOLLAR, YOU HAVE YOUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT, SO THAT IS A. I WANT TO SAY IT'S A NEWLY CREATED DEPARTMENT, SORT OF SINCE SINCE THE SPLIT HAS OCCURRED OR SENDS TO THE DOLLAR GOES TO IT.
SEVEN CENTS TO THE DOLLAR GOES TO PARKS AND FACILITIES AND NON-DEPARTMENTAL.
SO REMEMBER LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP? I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT NON-DEPARTMENTAL IS, WHICH IS CITYWIDE EXPENDITURES.
A LOT OF CONSULTANT TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE HOUSED THERE.
AND WE HAVE NINE CENTS TO THE DOLLAR IS YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
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SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE STORMWATER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.THIS IS JUST GENERAL FUND AND TRANSFERS.
SO TRANSFERS, MEANING ANY DEBT SERVICE THAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS TO PAY THE ROAD MAINTENANCE SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT IS ALL TRANSFERRED OUT 20 CENTS TO THE DOLLAR IS YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IN 30 CENTS TO THE DOLLARS YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO 50 CENTS SO OUT OF THE DOLLAR, FIFTY PERCENT JUST MATCHING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT GOES TO YOUR TWO PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS.
SO I'VE KIND OF COME UP WITH THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND HANDOUT.
SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS IT'S ESSENTIALLY A BUDGET IN BRIEF, AND I HAD KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT DOING A BUDGET AND BRIEF FOR A WHILE AND JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AS TIME GETS AWAY FROM YOU. SO I'VE CREATED A BUDGET AND BRIEF.
WHAT IT WILL HAVE IS ON ONE PAGE ON ONE SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A REVIEW OF ALL YOUR FUNDS. SO BUDGETARY HIGHLIGHTS AND CITYWIDE THINGS THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT TO OUR CITIZENS THAT TALKS ABOUT THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE GENERATING AND EXPENDITURES.
AND THEN THE BACK SIDE OF IT OR THE SECOND PAGE TO IT IS GENERAL FUND SPECIFIC.
SO IT WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
WE MET THE VOTER APPROVED THREE PERCENT MILITARY CAP OF SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN EMERGENCY CONTINGENCY DOLLARS, AND EVERYONE HAD KIND OF AGREED THAT FOUR PERCENT WOULD BE SOMETHING GREAT TO PUT ASIDE.
WE DO HAVE A NEW TWO MONTH OPERATING FUND BALANCE THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT 10 ONE, SO IT'S NO LONGER 10 PERCENT.
SO THAT WILL BE YOUR NEW FUND BALANCE.
WE'RE COMMITTING SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ROAD MAINTENANCE AND WE HAVE ADDED ONE POINT FIVE MILLION IN DEPARTMENTAL PERSONNEL AND OPERATING REQUESTS.
SO THAT THAT'S BEEN A MAJOR WORK SET UP THE SAME WAY IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR REVENUES. AND IN THIS CASE, I DID EXPENDITURES BY TYPE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PERSONNEL, YOUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES AND YOUR TRANSFERS, MAINLY BECAUSE WE, THE GENERAL FUND, WE TALK ABOUT SO MUCH SO YOU'LL CONTINUOUSLY SEE THAT BROKEN DOWN.
SO THIS IS A IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BETTER VIEW ON HOW WE SPEND THINGS.
AND THEN IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT AND WHAT I ADDED, THERE IS OUR YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL. SO YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GREAT FOR FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT AD VALOREM TAXATION, THE MILITARY, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT OUT IS IS THAT HOW WE CONTROL THE MILITARY IS NOT.
YOUR ENTIRE TAX BILL IS NOT CONTROLLED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO IF YOU EVER I KNOW THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE RECENTLY SENT OUT THE ESTIMATED PROPERTY TAX BILL, I GET MINE THE SAME WAY.
AND IF YOU FLIP IT, IF YOU ACTUALLY GO THROUGH IT AND SHOW WHAT THEY'RE TAXING YOU ON THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY OUT OF YOUR ENTIRE TAX BILL ACTUALLY ONLY COLLECTS THIRTY SIX PERCENT. SO IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A THIRD.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS GETS 44 PERCENT ALMOST HALF.
SO I DO HAVE SOMEONE AND I PULLED AN ACTUAL BILL.
BREVARD COUNTY GETS 17 PERCENT, THE CITY OF PALM BAY COLLECTS THIRTY SIX.
THAT HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT FROM THE LOW 30S, MAINLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE SECOND DEBT PAINT BOND THAT WE HAD TO GO OUT FOR.
SO WE'RE COLLECTING. SO THE PREVIOUS MILITARY WAS BELOW ONE MILL, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE ONE POINT THREE, FOUR TO FIVE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO COVER TWO DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS FOR THE TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN BOND.
AND THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE BOND IS THINGS LIKE YOU HAVE LIBRARIES, YOU HAVE.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BILL, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS THAT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY ALSO TAXES YOU ON AND THAT'S JUST COLLECTED UNDER SPECIAL DISTRICTS.
SO THE BIGGEST THING TO LOOK AT IS IS THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE MILITARY IDS IS THAT WE CAN ADJUST AND WE GO DOWN.
BUT YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL, EVEN IF HYPOTHETICALLY WE WERE TO REDUCE OUR RATES, YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL MAY STILL GO UP AND IT'S ALL BASED ON THE VALUATION OF YOUR HOME.
AND BREVARD COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MAY INCREASE THEIR TAXES.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR FOR INDIVIDUALS TO TO DO, AND YOU CAN DO THIS AT HOME. YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL AND PRETTY MUCH FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF. EVERYONE GETS IT IN THE MAIL.
SO THIS IS REALLY THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START PUTTING OUT, HOPEFULLY EVERY YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE APPROVED BUDGET, AS IS AT THE NEXT MEETING,
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THEN THIS WILL JUST BECOME THE BUDGET AND BRIEF FOR THE APPROVED YEAR.AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO EXPAND THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THIS IS JUST SORT OF THAT FIRST DRAFT ON IDEAS THAT I PUT TOGETHER.
SO WE MAY ACTUALLY ADD ANOTHER PAGE WHERE WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT INTO STAFFING ON HOW THE STAFFING IS BROKEN UP.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN, BRIAN, CAN YOU GO TO THE FIRST FIRST PAGE AT THE TOP? BUT I KNOW WE'RE I THINK, A LOT OF SCROLLING IT IS A BACK, FRONT AND BACK, SO AND I DO HAVE COPIES. SO ONE THING TO IS WHAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP THERE IS IS THAT SQUARE.
SECURITY CODE IS AS YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY TAKE YOUR CELL PHONE AND YOU CAN GO TO YOUR PICTURES AND YOU CAN HOVER OVER THAT WITH YOUR PHONE AND IT'LL DIRECTLY TAKE YOU TO THE CITY PALM BAY BUDGET WEBSITE.
SO IF YOU'RE OUT AND ABOUT AND YOU HAVE THAT PAPER WITH YOU AND YOU MAY BE AT LIKE A MEETING WITH WITH OR WITH WITH ANYONE WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS REALLY NEAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DON'T HAVE TO TELL THEM, WE'LL GO TO THE BUDGET WEBSITE, WHICH IS CITY OF PALM BAY, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO CLICK HERE AND YOU HAVE TO CLICK THERE. SO THIS IS REALLY NEAT.
SO YOU CAN JUST HOVER YOUR PHONE OVER THERE WITH YOUR WITH YOUR CAMERA AND THE INTERNET WILL POP UP AND YOU CLICK ON IT AND DIRECTLY TO OUR WEBSITE.
SO THIS IS REALLY, REALLY NEAT THING WE TRY TO INCLUDE TO BECOME A LITTLE MORE TECH SAVVY. I'M SO SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE, WE WANT TO DO SOME MORE WITH LIKE CITY MANAGER'S MESSAGE AND ALL THAT, BUT WE KIND OF NEED TO GET THROUGH THE APPROVED BUDGET FIRST BEFORE WE START PUTTING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SORT OF A PACKET AND WE'LL PUT THIS ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF GET THROUGH THE NEXT TWO WEEKS BEFORE HOPEFULLY NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES.
YES, THAT'S WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, I GOT TO TELL YOU, MA'AM, OUTSTANDING JOB.
THANK YOU. I REALLY I LOVE THE WAY YOU HIGHLIGHTED EVERYTHING.
EASY TO READ IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, YES.
WHICH SOMETIMES IT GETS THE BEST OF US WHEN WE DON'T SPEAK IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, RIGHT? YOU TYPICALLY CAN FALL INTO THAT SPEAKING IN YOUR JARGON, YES.
AND SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL BECAUSE THE CITIZENS DESERVE THAT.
HERE YOU HIT IT, RIGHT? YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD. THANK YOU.
AND YOU DID THIS QUICKLY, TOO, BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP A FEW WEEKS AGO AND YOU HAVE IT ALL RIGHT HERE. AND I DEFINITELY LIKE HOW YOU HAVE.
WE HAVE 257 MILES OF 790 AND IT MAY BE MORE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AS OF YET BECAUSE I REACHED OUT TO OUR CITY ENGINEER AND SO IT MAY GO UP.
BUT THAT WAS AT THAT TIME OF HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WE'VE PAVED SO FAR.
SO IT WILL INCREASE WITH THE NEW POLICY.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT AMAZING JOB.
THANK YOU AND ALL OF THE STAFF.
JOE, I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST MENTIONED.
GREAT JOB. MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S INTERESTING PRIOR TO YOU STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX BILL.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE I PAY ATTENTION TO THIS AND CONTRARY TO WHAT PEOPLE THINK THAT WHEN THEY PAY THEIR TAX BILL, THEY THINK, YOU KNOW, 100 PERCENT OF IT, STAY HERE.
SO THEREFORE, WHY CAN I GET SERVICES RIGHT? WHY CAN I GET I'M PAYING TAXES? WHY CAN I GET FULL SERVICES? THE REALITY OF THE MATTER IS, YOU KNOW, WE GET A THIRD OF IT, JUST ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OVER A THIRD. SO WE DO WHAT WE CAN WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU HAVE A NICE BREAKDOWN KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, 44 PERCENT OF IT. NEARLY HALF, ALMOST HALF GOES TOWARDS THE SCHOOL BOARD.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GREAT, SIMPLE, CLEAR.
YOU KNOW, THAT TAX BILL IS QUITE LONG.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE FOLKS MAY LOOK AT IT NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.
BUT THIS RIGHT HERE, JUST A SIMPLE FOUR LINES AND TELL TELL THE STORY VERY CLEARLY.
AND WE LOOKED AT TWO AT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT OUT ON OUR WEBSITE ON HOW DO YOU CALCULATE IT? AND I KNOW I'VE DONE IT FOR OUR CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, AND I MAY HAVE ALSO INCLUDED IT IN ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS FOR YOU WHERE HOW MUCH THE ACTUAL PAYMENT IS.
KNOW IF WE WERE TO GO UP A MIL OR DOWN A MIL.
IT'S JUST THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THAT.
SO I KNOW THAT I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF CLOSING OUT THE BUDGET PREPARATION HERE AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DOWNTIME TO PREP FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHERE WE MAY DO SOME MORE OUTREACH OR SOME MORE WORKSHOPS WHERE WE JUST TALK ABOUT THAT AND NOT TALK ABOUT THE CITY BUDGET.
WE JUST DO THESE LIKE HANDS ON KIND OF THINGS FOR OUR CITIZENS.
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SO THAT WOULD BE WOULD BE KIND OF INTERESTING WHERE WE JUST SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY VERSUS ALL EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE KIND OF HAVE TO PACK INTO A CITYWIDE BUDGET.SO LOTS OF THOUGHTS HAPPENING, JUST TRYING TO PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, MA'AM, YOU KNOW, HOW THESE TRIM NOTICES, WHICH YOU MENTIONED, THEY GO OUT AND I KNOW IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT AGENCY.
WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF US BEING ABLE TO TAP INTO THAT RESOURCE AND INCLUDE ONE OF THESE TWO PAGE CHEAT SHEETS IN THEIR MAIL DISTRIBUTION? I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT HOW THAT WOULD GO.
I KNOW. I MEAN, THEY HAVE THOUSANDS THAT GO OUT, SO I COULD TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE.
I KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY STRICT ABOUT THEIR MAILINGS, MAINLY BECAUSE I HAD PREVIOUSLY ASKED ABOUT SPLITTING OUR ROAD BOND DEBT LEVY.
I WANTED TO ACTUALLY HAVE TWO LEVIES INSTEAD OF ONE COLLECTIVE.
AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH DANA BLAKELY, AND SHE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE US, IT'S A IT'S WE HAVE TO REDUCE IT TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO INCLUDE TWO LEVIES IN, YOU KNOW, TWO TAXATIONS INTO ONE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING NOT TO GO TO TWO PAGES BECAUSE A TWO PAGE MAILING WILL COST THEM MORE MONEY. SO I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME FINANCIAL THINGS BEHIND THAT TOO.
BUT I CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT.
OR WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING ON OUR OWN WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE WORKSHOPS OR, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT OUR OWN WAY OF MAYBE DOING IT SEPARATELY OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE DOES.
I KNOW WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM BETWEEN FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND OUR WEBSITE, SO WE CAN PROBABLY DO SOMETHING THAT'S IN HOUSE AND.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH FREE BECAUSE I DID IT ALL, SO HE'S GOOD, MAN.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YEAH, MAN, I WAS THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
HOW CAN WE PUT THESE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR EMAIL IT OUT TO PEOPLE WHO SIGNS UP TO GET OUR EMAIL? YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT SO I CAN WORK WITH KEALY HOUR FROM THAT DEPARTMENT OR WE CAN POST IT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR CITY MANAGERS LOOKED AT IT AND MY DIRECTORS LOOKED AT IT.
SO THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE IT.
SO I THINK ONCE WE MAYBE GO THROUGH APPROVAL AND EVERYONE'S PUTS THEIR BLESSING ON IT AND I DO HAVE EXTRA COPIES, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO TAKE THEM OUT IF WE CAN.
YEAH, YOU DID A GREAT JOB AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.
I WOULD EVEN GO AS FAR AS TRYING TO PUT THIS IN THE HOMETOWN NEWS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WILL COST, SO IT'S EXPENSIVE TO THAT, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF AVENUES THAT WE CAN TAP INTO WHERE, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY, I KNOW THAT WE I KNOW THAT I WOULD LOVE TO EXPAND OUR WEBSITE, OUR BUDGET SECTION OF THE WEBSITE.
SO ADDING THINGS LIKE THAT TO IT AS WELL AND THEN EMAILING LINKS OUT OR HAVING, YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF THING HAPPEN.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING TO DO AND HOPING AND OUR DEPARTMENT IS HOPING TO MAYBE DO SOME MORE. OUTREACH TO THE CITIZENS, AS IN DOING LIKE OFF SITE THINGS LIKE MEETING WITH HIGHWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE CURRENTLY DON'T DO.
BUT CITIZENS INVOLVEMENT IS KIND OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO GEAR TOWARDS.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING A LITTLE RESTRUCTURING IN OUR DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DO THAT, WHERE WE CAN DO MORE FACE TO FACE.
I LOVE DOING FACE TO FACE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, IMPRINT.
SO HAVING THOSE WITH ME WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO DO.
SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PLAN OF, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT. SO. THANK YOU.
THAT IS A GREAT TOOL, MA'AM, FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED, RIGHT? AND EVEN ON THE WEBSITE OR AS COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID, ADVERTISE THAT PERHAPS EVEN ON OUR WEBSITE, WE PUT A NICE RED FLASHING BUTTON AS BUDGET IN A NUTSHELL OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BUT OUTSTANDING JOB, MA'AM, YOU REALLY SIMPLIFIED THIS PROCESS FOR US LAYMEN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? THANK YOU, MA'AM. WHAT'S GOING ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS? GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THE FURTHER MADAM SHERMAN.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD, MAYOR.
JUST THE STATEMENT I READ INTO THE RECORD EARLIER WOULD APPLY FOR THIS HEARING, THIS ONE TO SORT OF PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I'VE BEEN ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS.
HE QUESTIONS COUNSEL. MAY I ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
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REGARDING THE TENTATIVE MILEAGE STEP, STEP UP, SIR.[00:45:02]
COME UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE.79, VIN ROSE, RIGHT UP THE STREET HERE.
THANK YOU FOR QUESTIONING SOME OF THE THINGS.
I APPRECIATE THAT THAT STANDING UP FOR ALL OF US ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WHERE IT'S GOING AND SO APPRECIATE IT.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE ROAD FEES AND STUFF IS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMING OUT OF OUR GAS TAXES AND STUFF.
A LOT OF THAT MONEY. WASN'T THAT PAYING FOR IT? OR IS THAT JUST UP IN NEW YORK WHERE I MOVED DOWN HERE FROM USUALLY TO TAXES THAT ON GASOLINE HELPED PAY FOR THE ROADS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? SO YOU DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE OUR TAXES FOR THAT.
SO I WAS QUESTIONING THAT ALSO THE SCHOOL TAXES DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE KIDS ARE DOING ANYTHING ANYMORE SINCE THE COVID THING.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY TEACHERS OR WHO'S EVER GETTING RAISES THAT WOULD BE GOING UP.
THEY SEEM TO BE DOING LESS AND NOT NOT MORE.
SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE GOING UP THE POLICE.
NO FENCE. MY SON IN LAW IS A COP, BUT YOU KNOW, I SEE DRAG RACING GOING ON CONSTANTLY UP AND DOWN THESE ROADS HERE.
THEY SHOULD BE THEY SHOULD BE GETTING TICKET MONEY.
THEY SHOULD BE GETTING MONEY FROM TICKETS TO HELP PAY FOR FOR RAISES OR EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I SEE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EVERY DAY DRAG RACING AND DOING STUFF THAT THAT MONEY COULD BE GOING TO THE POLICE INSTEAD OF US PAYING, PAYING THE EXTRA MONEY FOR THE POLICE. MY WIFE AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT RETIRING NEXT YEAR, AND IF THE TAXES KEEP GOING UP, WHERE ELSE ARE WE GOING TO MOVE? WE CAME DOWN HERE FROM NEW YORK BECAUSE THE TAXES WERE SO RIDICULOUS WE HAD TO MOVE DOWN HERE BECAUSE IT WAS REASONABLE.
I'M JUST HOPING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET UNREASONABLE LIKE IT DID IN NEW YORK STATE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, AND I APPRECIATE IT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO HANDLE A FEW OF THOSE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY THE LGT, LOCAL SHOPS AND GAS TAX. YEAH, I'D BE GLAD TO.
SO CITY DOES RECEIVE SOME REVENUE EACH YEAR FOR FROM LOCAL OPTION GOT GAS TAXES.
WE DO NOT RECEIVE ENOUGH TO COVER THE NEEDS OF OUR OUR CITY ROADS.
AND SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, COUNCIL DECIDED TO PUT AN ITEM BEFORE THE VOTERS AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY DID AGREE TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE A SEPARATE MILLAGE THAT'S NOW ON OUR BILLS AND THAT SEPARATE MILLAGE.
WE CALL IT THE GO ROAD BOND OR THE THE ROAD BOND MILLAGE.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT DOES IS IT'S THE CITY IS TAKING ON DEBT TO REPAVE, FIX ALL THE ROADS IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU GET YOUR TAX BILL.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT ALREADY, THAT THERE'S A SEPARATE MILLAGE RATE SEPARATE FROM THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
THAT IS YOUR GENERAL FUND MILLAGE, AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY HOW THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY TAKING ON DEBT TO GO AHEAD AND FIX THOSE ROADS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN NEEDED FOR QUITE A WHILE. SORT OF TAGGING WITH THAT, THOUGH, ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO BUILD WHAT WE CALL THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
SO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND HAS BEEN NOT ANNUALLY CONTRIBUTED TO.
IT WAS SIMPLY MONEY WAS PUT IN THERE BASED ON PERIODIC SALES OF CITY PROPERTIES THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO BEGIN TO ACTUALLY PUT REOCCURRING FUNDING INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND BECAUSE WHAT OUR GOAL IS IS TO BUILD THAT FUND UP ANNUALLY AND BUILD THE RESERVES UP SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE CITY IN A SITUATION LIKE WE'VE BEEN IN RECENT YEARS WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO FIX THE ROADS.
SO AS WE'RE GOING ALONG, AS WE'RE FIXING THE ROADS, USING THE ROAD BOND PROCESS, WE ARE NOT REALLY BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT EVERY YEAR WE'RE ADDING MORE MONEY.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT WAS THAT WE'VE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL $750000 INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND THAT'S ON TOP OF SALES OF CITY PROPERTIES AND MONEY THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO INCREASE THAT EACH YEAR.
WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF OUR ROADS THE RIGHT WAY GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. ALSO, I GUESS THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TYPEKIT RIDING, RACING ON ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WE WERE VERY MUCH AWARE OF A LOT OF OUR TROUBLE SPOTS WHEN WE SEND FOLKS OUT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE THE SPECIFIC COMPLAINT OR CONCERN ABOUT A SPECIFIC AREA WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF SPEEDING, PLEASE JUST EMAIL CITY MANAGER AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DAWG.
HAPPY TO SEND OUT OUR TEAM TO DO EXTRA DETAILS AS NEEDED.
AND I THINK THAT'S YEAH, THERE WAS ALSO THE ISSUES WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THAT'S A SEPARATE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.
PERHAPS YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHARE THAT WE DON'T SET THOSE MILLAGE RATES.
YEAH, CERTAINLY THE JUST LIKE WE'RE HAVING OUR HEARINGS TONIGHT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT SAY WE CAN'T HAVE OUR MEETINGS ON THE SAME NIGHTS AS LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD OR OUR COUNTY.
WE HAVE TO HAVE SEPARATE MEETING DATES SO THAT ALL RESIDENTS WHO ARE AFFECTED BY ALL THE
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DIFFERENT TYPES OF TAXES HAVE A CHANCE TO BE HEARD AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT MEETINGS.SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THAT INFORMATION, CONTACT MY STAFF.
COME SEE ME AFTERWARD. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.
BUT THOSE ARE ALL HEARINGS THAT YOU COULD ATTEND AND EXPRESS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT HOW THEY'RE SETTING THE RATES FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD OR BREVARD COUNTY IN ADDITION TO THE CITY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I THINK THAT COVERED EVERYTHING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK OR AGAINST ASYLUM? I THINK YOU USED UP YOUR TIME, SIR.
THIS. YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND WORSE, SMITH.
I JUST MOVED TO PALM BAY, BOUGHT MY HOUSE AND TAXES WENT DOWN.
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, WE JUST WENT THROUGH A PANDEMIC FOR A WHOLE YEAR OR TWO YEARS NOW. NOBODY'S WORKING.
WELL, YEAH, YOU GUYS ARE STILL WORKING AND YOU WANT TO RAISE OUR TAXES TO BOOST YOUR PAYMENT. AND THIS MAYOR'S BALL, IT NEEDS TO BE X-RAYED.
OUR STORY PERCENT AND 20 PERCENT TO THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY DESERVE IT. THEY DESERVE MORE THAN WHAT THEY GET PAID.
BUT YOU PEOPLE, YOU WORK FOR US TOO.
WE, THE PEOPLE AND WE, THE PEOPLE SAY NO MORE TAXES.
ELECTIONS COMING UP IN ABOUT A YEAR.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO STEP FORWARD, MA'AM? LAURIE LAFAVE, DRAW THE CIRCLE, I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME HEARING EVERYBODY AND I NOTICED THAT YOU TAKE YOUR MASKS OFF, WHICH HELPS ME BECAUSE I LIP READ A LOT, AT LEAST IF I CAN'T HEAR.
I CAN SORT OF PUT THE WORDS TOGETHER.
SO I HAD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, THE ACOUSTICS.
WHEN PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND TALK THIS WAY, IT'S VERY HARD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE SOUND CAN BE TURNED UP OR WHAT THE SOLUTION IS TO THAT, BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S SAYING IT EITHER, SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE THAT FEEDBACK.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. SEE MR. CHIEF. I WASN'T SURE IF THIS WAS UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING WHEN WE WERE DOING THESE QUESTIONS OR IF IT WAS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC RESPOND, I'M GOING ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS PUBLIC COMMENTS, PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PUBLIC.
THEN THERE'LL BE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. DON'T WORRY, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM, YOU CAN ADJUST.
I'M SALLY JOHNSON COULD ACTUALLY MOVE IT.
OK. CAN YOU HEAR ME TOWARDS YOU? OK? I'M SALLY JOHNSON, RETIRED ARMY FIRST SERGEANT OF TWENTY SIX YEARS.
I REMEMBER YOU WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT IS I BOUGHT A HOME HERE, MY HUSBAND ON 20 15. WE ARE ORIGINALLY FROM CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA.
WHEN WE CAME HERE, WE CAME HERE TO FLORIDA BECAUSE WE THOUGHT, WOW, WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO BE AND WHAT A GREAT PLACE FOR SENIORS.
AND SO WE LOOK AT THAT AS IF, WOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN HERE.
THIS IS A GREAT PLACE AND WE LOVE PALM BAY.
WE WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA.
WE'RE DONE WITH THE SNOW AND THE COLD.
BUT WE SEE OUR TAXES GOING UP ON THE PROPERTY EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR SINCE WE BOUGHT OUR HOME. IT'S BEEN GOING UP AND WE SEE OUR GOLDEN YEARS FADING AWAY BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS MONEY AND LESS MONEY AND LESS MONEY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, I ALSO SEE WHERE WHEN WE FIRST MOVED HERE.
CANALS WERE BEING CUT UP, RIGHT, A WAYS OF THE ROADS WERE BEING MOWED, AND NOW THEY'RE NOT SNAKES ARE EVERYWHERE.
AND RIGHT NEAR WHERE I LIVE, I'M UP SANFILIPPO DRIVE 17 50.
IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT, I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S NOT BEING DONE.
AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT BOTHERS ME HERE.
THERE IS SO MUCH TRASH HERE IN THIS CITY THAT IT'S DISGUSTING.
IT'S DISGUSTING, AND THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME LAWS PEOPLE BE FINED.
AND CHILDREN TAUGHT TO PICK UP AFTER THEMSELVES, PEOPLE JUST THROW OUT TRASH EVERYWHERE HERE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
NEVER. I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, SO SORRY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
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BUT WE LOVE IT HERE, BUT SOMETHING'S GOT TO BE DONE TO KEEP THIS TOXIC.SOME THINGS FROM GOING UP AND ALL THE LITTLE FEES ON THE UTILITIES.
THERE'S THIS FEE, THERE'S THAT FEE, THERE'S THIS FEE.
WE'RE ALL PAYING A LOT AND IN A PANDEMIC YEAR, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED.
IT'S DIFFICULT, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ALL HARDWORKING PEOPLE.
I REALIZE THE SCHOOLS AREN'T PART OF YOUR BUDGET, I REALIZE THAT, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED TOO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF KIDS ARE NOT IN SUMMER IN SOME OR OUT.
I USED TO BE A TEACHER 32 YEARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN RELATE TO THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LIVE HERE, WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO REACH A COMMON GROUND RATHER THAN JUST KEEP RAISING SOME POINT IN TIME. THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY DESERVE A BREAK, EVEN IF IT'S A YEAR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SAYING.
MEAN ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS? KIM, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE DON'T NEED EMOTION AT THIS TIME.
AND I'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARR'S DEPUTY MAYOR.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
SIR, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AGAIN, STEP FORWARD.COME TO THE MIKE. WE WANT TO PUT IT ON A CONTRACTOR IN THE AREA HERE, AND I HAVE SEEN AT LEAST 3000 NEW HOMES GOING UP, SO I MEAN TO RAISE TAXES AND ALL THESE BRAND NEW HOMES COMING IN HERE AND ALL THESE PEOPLE, I MEAN, IT JUST SOUNDS TO ME LIKE RIDICULOUS.
IT'S JUST TONS OF HOMES COMING IN, REBUILT ALL THE BUILDING GOING ON THAT SHOULD BE PAYING FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF.
I MEAN, THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORHOODS UP HERE, THERE'S 500 TO 1000 HOMES GOING IN.
THANK YOU, GUYS. I APPRECIATE IT.
GILBERT AND FIVE GILBERT AND 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
FIRST, I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THE NEW POSTER YOU MADE UP TO, GAVE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PERCENTAGE OF THE DOLLARS I WAS GOING TO SAY, CAN WE HAVE THE PERCENTAGE ON IT? AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NEW CHART, I SAID, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THE AMOUNT OF THAT PERCENTAGE BECAUSE THAT NEW FLIER COVERS IT BEAUTIFULLY.
SO I'M I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT IN MY BACK OF MY FOLDER AS A TALKING POINT FROM NOW ON.
WHAT WOULD OUR MILLAGE RATE BE IF YOU IF YOU ADD IT IN ALL THE NON AD VALOREM FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE HAVE NOT SO THAN NOT THE NON AD VALOREM FUNDING, WHICH WOULD BE THE ROAD BOND, THE STORM WATER SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS.
WHEN WE ADD ALL THOSE UP, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MILLAGE RATE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY WOULD BE? ARE WE PAST THAT MILLAGE RATE OF 10 AT THAT POINT? I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT, NOT JUST WHAT THE MILITARY. I'M VERY HAPPY THE FACT THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE MILLAGE RATE DOWN TO BLOW THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN THAT WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO THAT'S THAT'S A PLUS FOR YOU OR YOU, BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
THE FACT THAT IT'S EVEN BELOW THE THREE PERCENT CAP IS EVEN MORE OF AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
BUT WHEN YOU START ADDING IN THE OTHER IDENTITIES, THAT TAKES THE MILLAGE RATE ALMOST UP TO THE FULL 10 PERCENT THAT ANY CITY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CARRY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT UNDER THE AD VALOREM TAXING.
SO IF ANYBODY COULD LET ME KNOW THAT I'D APPRECIATE IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS THE ROAD BOND AND AND ALSO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE TILLMAN CANAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS ONLY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE TO PAY THE TILLMAN CANAL.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE PAY, BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS THAT I HAVE TO PAY TO TILLMAN CANAL ON TOP OF MY TAXES.
SO WHEN YOU ADD THOSE UP, IT RAISES THE MILLAGE RATE UP TO ALMOST 10 TO A MILLAGE RATE OF 10. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
MR. BATTEN, I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THAT CALCULATED NUMBER, BUT I COULD.
WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT AND GET BACK TO YOU.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, STEP FORWARD, PLEASE.
YES. WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ON THE RECORD.
ZERO, TWO, FIVE EIGHT, ELLIOT WROTE MY FIRST MEETING.
BEEN LIVING HERE FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS.
I'M IN CONSTRUCTION LIKE HIM, YOU KNOW? I LOVE THE GRAFT.
I THINK THAT WAS REALLY AWESOME.
REALLY GOOD, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE A GRAPH SHOWING WHERE WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO, WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE HOMES THAT MOVED IN.
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HOW MUCH MORE MONEY COMING IN THERE AND THEN JUSTIFY WHY OUR TAXES WOULD BE GOING UP TO SEE THAT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND.THANK YOU. AND SHERMAN, PERHAPS WE COULD WORK ON WHAT PROPERTY APPRAISERS ADD AND COVER THOSE THAT ASPECT OF IT.
CERTAINLY, WE DEFINITELY HAVE MULTIPLE YEARS WORTH OF HISTORICAL DATA.
WE COULD PULL THAT TOGETHER IF WE CAN GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, SIR.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROVIDE AS A FOLLOW UP.
SO ANGELIKA COLLINS CAN PROBABLY GRAB YOUR PHONE NUMBER, EMAIL WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU NO ONE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.
DO YOU SPEAK ALREADY? YOU ALREADY SPOKE, SIR, HER ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DID YOU SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. SO THE WAYS THE RULES OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I COULD YOU GET TO SPEAK UNDER EACH ITEM? SO THE NEXT ITEM YOU'LL BE NEXT ITEM, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AGAIN.
HE SPOKE ON THE ITEM ONE, THEN HE CAME BACK AND SPOKE ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO NOW WE'RE ON THE SAME THING.
WE'RE WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.
MADAME SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[BUSINESS]
SO THIS IS THE FIRST BUSINESS ITEM YOU WILL ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERING.THIS IS RELATED TO THE ATTENTIVE MILITARY FOR TAX YEAR TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
THE STATEMENT I HAD TO READ EARLIER IS BASED ON OUR PUBLIC NOTICE RELATED TO THE THE MILITARY. SO THAT PUBLIC NOTICE WAS, AS YOU HEARD ME SAY, A A TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE OF SEVEN POINT EIGHT THREE SEVEN EIGHT.
BUT AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THE BUDGET IS ACTUALLY BUILT ON THE THREE PERCENT CAP RATE, WHICH IS SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. HE WENT IN THE OFFICE, WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HERE HAS A BUDGET THEY.
THEY CAN'T ADJUST OR GET MONEY FROM ANYWHERE ELSE.
THEY HAVE TO LIVE ON THAT BUDGET.
AND I THINK PALM BAY, THE CITY OF PALM BAY NEED TO LIVE ON A CERTAIN BUDGET, BUT OVEREXTENDING, EXPECT US TO TAXPAYERS TO PAY ANYTHING EXTRA.
FIX YOURSELF A BUDGET AND KEEP THAT BUDGET.
YOU HAD TO CUT HERE OR CUT THERE, YOU CUT.
BUT DON'T SIT THERE AND TRY TO GET MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOU GUYS WANT TO SPEND MORE.
THIS IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS FOR PALM BAY, MELBOURNE STATE, FLORIDA AND OUR GOVERNMENT.
THEY EXPECT US TO KEEP PAYING MORE TAXES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? COUNCIL. THE MOTION MOST WOULD IMPROVE THE MILLAGE RATE OF 7.5, NINE POINT NINETY FIVE, STAYING WITHIN THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I APPRECIATE EVERY BEING EVERYBODY BEING OUT HERE, SUZANNE AND TERESE AND PATRICIA.
THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGEST CROWDS WE'VE HAD IN A WHILE, AND BILL COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT IN REGARDS TO A BUDGET HEARING.
SO STAYING INCLUDED, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO TWO OF THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT.
WITH THE INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL HOMES, THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE AN INCREASE FOR POLICE TO GET OUT THERE OR FIRE.
THAT'S WHY YOU NOTICE SOME OF THE THINGS ARE INCREASING POLICE OR SROS THINGS OF THAT NATURE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ADDING POLICE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THAT CALL TIME IS GOING TO INCREASE.
SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER AND LONGER FOR POLICE OR FIRE TO GET OUT THERE.
THE OTHER THING AND THIS COUNCILMAN I FORGOT WHICH YOU SAID IT, MA'AM.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU REMEMBER HIM WHEN HE WAS RUNNING.
AND ONE THING IS HE'S BIG ON AND WE'RE ALL BIG ON INCREASING THE COMMERCIAL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THING YOU SEE IN WEST MELBOURNE AND MELBOURNE AND OTHER CITIES.
AND I'M NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO PASS THE BUCK.
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I'M JUST SHARING WHERE WE STAND.WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE INCREASE THAT COMMERCIAL REVENUE.
SO THAT WAY, THAT COMMERCIAL BASE HOLDS THE WEIGHT OF THE TAXES AND NOT THE RESIDENTS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.
I KNOW IT'S NOT IT'S NOT HAPPENING AS FAST AS WE WANT, AND WE FEEL THE SAME WAY BECAUSE I'M FRUSTRATED, TOO.
BUT IT IS OCCURRING LIKE YOU HAVE EMERALD LAKES AND OTHER AREAS.
SO IT'S HAPPENING JUST NOT AS FAST, BUT WE ARE STAYING WITHIN THE THREE PERCENT CAP.
BUT EVEN DOING SO, IT'S GOING TO BE ADVERTISED AS A AS AN INCREASE, JUST MAKING IT CLEAR SO. A COUNCILMAN FELIX.
YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE THE DEPUTY MAYOR.
IT PRETTY MUCH GAVE A GOOD EXPLANATION OF WHERE WE ARE AT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE SO MUCH CONTROL AS TO AS TO THE MILLAGE.
AS I SAID, THE COUNTY, YOUR YOUR HOUSE GET TO BE APPRECIATED ON A YEARLY BASIS.
THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY GOES UP THAT TIED TO THE ASSESSED VALUE.
SO WE AT THE CITY LEVEL, WE DON'T CONTROL THAT THE PROPERTY IS ASSESSED.
YOUR ASSESSMENT TO YOUR HOUSE LAST YEAR COMPARED TO THIS YEAR, YOU'LL SEE.
YOU'LL SEE YOUR HOUSE, GET GET, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATED QUITE A BIT.
SO THAT GOES HAND IN THE END AS TO HOW MUCH TAX YOU PAY.
SO WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
THAT'S WHY WE STAY WITHIN THE CAP.
WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, TRY TO INCREASE YOUR YOUR YOUR TAXES BY ANY MEANS.
BUT I, AS DEPUTY MAYOR, MENTIONED THEIR SERVICES.
AS WE GROW AS A CITY, WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR FIRE SERVICES AND ALL POLICE SERVICES AS WELL. SO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE WORKING FOR YOU.
WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO KEEP TO KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL.
AS I SAID, BUSINESS INCREASING ALL BUSINESS TAX DOLLAR WILL DEFINITELY HELP.
WE HEARD YOU. WE WE BY ANY MEANS NOT TRYING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
I HEARD EVERY CITIZEN THAT CAME UP.
UM. ONE THING I THINK ONE OF MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE YOUR TAX DOLLARS IS NOT WASTED.
PUT YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO GOOD USE AND ALSO.
TO GET TAX REVENUES FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN YOUR BACK POCKET, AND THAT'S COMMERCIAL GROWTH.
AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL, THIS IS A YOUNG COUNCIL.
WE WASN'T HERE, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS AGO, BUT I SAT IN THEM CHAIRS AND LISTENED TO THAT COUNCIL LIKE MR., BILL BRATTON SAYS, DIDN'T STAY WITHIN THE CAP.
UM, I'M NOT I'M NOT A I'M NOT AN ADVOCATE OF THE CAT, OK, BUT I HEAR TO THE LAWS THAT I NEED TO FOLLOW.
THE REASON WHY I'M NOT AN ADVOCATE TO THE CAP, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR OWN BUDGET DECISION. YOU DON'T NEED A LAW TO TELL YOU HOW TO BUDGET.
YOU SHOULD FOLLOW IT. THE CITIZEN VOTED FOR IT, AND WE SHOULD FOLLOW IT, AND THAT'S WHAT I DID. I VOTED FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH I THINK OTHERWISE.
SO IT'S NOT ABOUT ME, IT'S ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
BUT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, I THINK THIS COUNCIL IS COMMITTED.
TO GROWING OUR COMMERCIAL BASE, THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE DEAL WITH THE PALM BAY ARENA.
THAT'S GOING TO CREATE 300 JOBS, AND THAT'S GOING TO BRING SOME REVENUE AND SOME MORE DEALS WILL COME UP. YES, WE GOT COMMERCIAL GROWTH, BUT THE TIME WE SEE THAT COMMERCIAL GROWTH OF NEW HOUSES, IT TAKES ALMOST A YEAR TO SEE IT IN YOUR YOUR BUDGET.
SO. THE CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME GROWING PAINS WITH OUR FIRE AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, THAT DOLLAR.
THAT'S 50 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET, AT LEAST IS 30 CENTS AND FIRES 20.
AND. I'M ADVOCATING FOR BOTH OF THEM DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE WON'T HAVE A CITY IF WE DON'T HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT AND A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND I BELIEVE WE GOT THE BEST FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT IN BREVARD COUNTY.
IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND AND I NEED.
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THE CITIZENS TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE AND FIRE.BUT THEY'RE DOING DESCRIBES IT, NOT THE WASTE, YOUR MONEY.
EITHER, I DON'T THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WANT TO RISK WE WE GOT GRANTS.
I DON'T KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER, WE HAVE REBUILT A FIRE STATION OFF OF OFF A FEDERAL GRANT.
MY STATION NUMBER FIVE, IS THAT RIGHT? THE CITY MANAGER? YES, SIR.
SO I DIDN'T COME OUT OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX.
AND WE GET GRANTS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO NOT COME OUT OF YOUR POCKET THROUGH GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UM, TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, FIRST, I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY A FEW COMMENTS, A FEW WORDS, AND THE FIRST IS THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS. WELCOME TO PALM BAY ALL THE WAY FROM NEW YORK CITY.
THIRTY THREE YEARS AGO, I LANDED IN THIS PLACE VIA THE MARINE CORPS, AND I WILL SHARE WITH YOU BACK IN THOSE DAYS.
THERE WAS A COUNCIL THAT WELL, THERE WAS LEADERSHIP AT THAT TIME THAT FELT THIS SHOULD REMAIN A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
IN OTHER WORDS, LET THE RESIDENTS FROM PALM BAY GO TO THE NEIGHBORING CITIES AND SPEND THEIR COMMERCIAL FUNDS, THEIR RETAIL FUNDS AND AND ENHANCE THEIR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE.
SO THIS COUNCIL IS CHANGING THAT THOUGHT PROCESS THAT HAS HINDERED OUR CITY FOR DECADES. AND AND I AM EXCITED THAT TODAY WE HAVE A COUNCIL THAT WANTS TO GET RID OF THAT BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
NOW WE UNDERSTOOD EVEN BACK THEN AS A DARK TIME WHEN I WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, I WAS STILL A BOOT. YOU CAN SAY I NOTICE THAT IT CANNOT BE SUSTAINABLE FOR A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, ALWAYS GOING TO GO DO SHOPPING IN THEIR NEIGHBORING CITIES.
SO TODAY WE'RE SWITCHING THAT WE'RE GETTING RID OF THAT STIGMA.
WE ARE BEING GOOD STEWARDS AND I HAVE TO USE A NAVAL TERM.
BECAUSE THE SHIP THAT IS SAILING HAS A SMALL RUDDER AND THAT SMALL RUDDER IS THIS COUNCIL. AND THIS COUNCIL IS TURNING THE WAY OF THAT BEDROOM COMMUNITY AND LOOKING TOWARDS THAT COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND BUILDING UP THAT THAT TAX BASE, THAT'S THE BEST WAY I COULD COMMUNICATE IT.
I LOVE HOW EACH AND EVERY, COUNCIL MEMBER SHARED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME GROWING PAINS WE UNDERSTAND IN OUR GROWTH PROCESS. FIRST RESPONDERS ARE CRITICAL BECAUSE EVERY SECOND.
MEANS A LIFE, AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.
WE ARE VOTING TO BRING THAT PROPOSED SEVEN POINT EIGHT.
I BELIEVE IT WAS MILEAGE DOWN TO SEVEN POINT FIVE AND I'VE GOT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE DURING THE WORKSHOPS, THEY ALL AGREED THAT THEY WOULD NOT GO ABOVE THE SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE FIVE.
AND SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO THIS COUNCIL AND I'M SUPPORTED AND WE'RE ALIGNED IN THAT EFFORT. NO ONE WANTED TO GO TO EXCEED THAT.
YOU HAD TO ADVERTISE THE HIGHER RATE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS BUT UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE WE INCREASE THAT COMMERCIAL BASE TO NOT PUT THE TAX BURDEN ON ON OUR RESIDENTS, ON OURSELVES BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
SO WITH THOSE COMMENTS, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION HERE, IF I MAY PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE DOLLAR BILL, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT, SO THE FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHY EVERY DOLLAR WE I MEAN, MANY OF US REFERRED TO THE SERVICES THAT THAT YOU RECEIVE WHEN YOU PAY TAXES OR EVERY DOLLAR YOU PUT, YOU PAY IN TAXES YOU RECEIVED.
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I MEAN, A DOLLAR IN 50 CENTS IN SERVICE SERVICES OVERALL.SO THE ONLY WAY, AS THE MAYOR JUST SAID, IS TO DO THIS BY INCREASING THE THE TAX DOLLAR, BY INCREASING BUSINESSES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE OUTPUT OF SERVICE VERSUS VERSUS RESIDENTIAL TO BUSINESSES, IT'S NOT THE SAME.
IT COST US LESS TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THE BUSINESSES THAN IT IS TO THE RESIDENTS.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S SO CRITICAL IN THE EFFORT THIS COUNCIL IS PUTTING FORTH TO INCREASE OUR BUSINESSES. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY DOLLAR, WE PUT A DOLLAR AND 50 CENTS, SO SOMEHOW WE GOT TO MAKE UP FOR IT.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT IT'S CRITICAL TO INCREASE THE BUSINESS BUSINESS ASPECT. THANK YOU.
THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS COUNCILMAN, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MADAM SMITH, WOULD YOU? YES, SIR. OR TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER TWO HUNDRED UTILITIES CODE BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR THE CITY'S UTILITY SYSTEM AND SERVICES.
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO THIS ORDINANCE BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO AND THE NEXT TWO ORDINANCES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT SEPARATELY ARE ALL RELATED TO CHANGES TO OUR UTILITIES RATES.
A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST TO POINT OUT BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS THIS AT A PRIOR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WORKSHOPS.
THIS PARTICULAR CHAPTER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, CHAPTER TWO HUNDRED IN THE UTILITIES CODE IS A MIXTURE OF WHAT WE CALL USER RATES AND MISCELLANEOUS FEES.
WHEN WE SPOKE AT PRIOR WORKSHOPS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AND COUNCIL GAVE US AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT THE TIME WAS TO BUILD THE BUDGET BASED ON THE FOLLOWING INCREASES.
SO FOR WATER USER RATES, IT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF ONE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT IS INCLUDED IN CHAPTER TWO HUNDRED.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ IT ALL OUT, BUT I'LL RESTATE IT FOR THE NEXT TWO ITEMS. THE SEWER AND RECLAIMED RATES WERE PROPOSED TO INCREASE BY THREE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT. AND THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT FOR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC IS THERE ARE A VARIETY OF MISCELLANEOUS FEES IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE.
YOU'LL SEE THERE'S PAGES AND PAGES OF THEM, DIFFERENT DIFFERENT THINGS.
OUTSIDE OF THOSE PERCENTAGES THAT I MENTIONED, INCREASING USER RATES, SO USER RATES WOULD BE FOR WATER ONE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT FOR FOR SEWER AND RECLAIMED, IT WOULD BE THREE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT.
ALL OF THE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS FEES ARE RECOMMENDED TO BE INCREASED PER OUR ORDINANCE PER PASSED PRACTICE FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION RATE INCREASE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR IS A ONE POINT ONE SEVEN PERCENT INCREASE.
SO ESSENTIALLY, ALL OF THE RATES ARE PROPOSED TO GO UP, BUT THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF INCREASES, USER USER RATES VERSUS VARIOUS FEES.
SO THE CHAPTER TWO HUNDRED SPECIFICALLY IS RELATED TO WATER RATES, FEES AND CHARGES, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THAT.
AND SO ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? OH, YEAH, BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF NEW FACES IN THE AUDIENCE, SO I JUST IF WE CAN ELABORATE WHETHER WE WANT TO HAVE SYMANTEC COME UP OR CHRIS LITTLE, WHOEVER WHAT IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE BEFORE AND WHY THE INCREASE AND EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO WHERE YOU ALL CAN TAG TEAM, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL.
SO JUST. WHAT? THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, JEFF DYKSTRA WITH STAN TUCK ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE UTILITY PERFORMS A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS FOR THE UTILITY, NOT ONLY LOOKING AT THE UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR, BUT ALSO A 10 YEAR PROJECTION, REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OVER THE NEXT PERIOD OF TIME NEXT YEAR, BUT ALSO 10 YEARS, UTILITY IS
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FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE.UTILITY HAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES PLANT EXPANSIONS TO HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE GROWTH IN REAL TIME DOES NOT PAY FOR IT.
AND AT THAT SAME TIME, FROM A UTILITY RATES PERSPECTIVE, THEY PAY IMPACT FEES IN CONNECTION FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR PORTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRETTY LARGE PLANT BUILT BEFORE THAT GROWTH CAN HAPPEN AS AN EXAMPLE. ADDITIONALLY, JUST OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR THE UTILITY INCREASE, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SALARIES AND WAGES GO UP AS YOUR WORKERS GET PAID ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
YOU HAVE INFLATION THAT HAPPENS FROM A CHEMICAL ENERGY PERSPECTIVE, OPERATING COST PERSPECTIVE. SO ON OF ALL OF THOSE REASONS ARE REALLY THE BASIS FOR THE RECOMMENDED INCREASES THIS YEAR.
JUST TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THINGS LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WERE LOOKING AT FOUR AND FIVE PERCENT INCREASES WITH SOME DEBT, SOME NEW DEBT TERMS THAT THE CITY GOT ON THE UTILITIES DEBT REVISIONS ON PROJECTED OPERATING COSTS FROM THE NEW WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THAT DOWN FROM FOUR AND FIVE DOWN TO ONE POINT SEVEN AND OUR ONE POINT SEVENTY FIVE AND THREE POINT SEVENTY FIVE.
SO AGAIN, THE UTILITY IS LOOKING AT IT PROACTIVELY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE US AT A HIGH LEVEL, A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE RATE INCREASES FOR THIS YEAR. THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WANT MORE.
AND WHAT WOULD IT WHAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR FOR YOU TO RECOMMEND NO INCREASES, WOULD THAT HAVE TO JUST BE WATER CITYWIDE OR MASKING? I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS THE LARGER SYSTEM.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MINIMIZE RATE INCREASES? YES. YES, TO AN EXTENT, BUT YOU'RE ONLY EVEN IF YOUR SYSTEM WAS FULLY BUILT OUT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE INFLATIONARY COST PRESSURES ON OPERATING EXPENSES.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMETHING.
AND THERE'S A REASON WHY THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION INDEX THAT THE CITY MANAGER REFERENCED, THAT'S A MEASURE OF THE ANNUAL INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENSES.
THAT DOESN'T COVER THE CAPITAL SIDE OF THINGS, BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOME, SOME INFLATIONARY PRICE COST PRESSURES, SO THE RATES WOULD BE LOWER, I BELIEVE, OVER TIME.
BUT THERE STILL WOULD BE RATE INCREASES.
YEAH. AND IF I MAY ADD, YOU KNOW, THE ONE ONE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT INCREASE FOR WATER, JUST TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE.
MOST OF THE CITY'S CUSTOMERS ARE WATER ONLY AND THERE'D BE A FIFTY FOUR CENT INCREASE PER MONTH TO A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE BOTH WATER AND SEWER. IT WOULD BE A TWO AND THIRTY TWO CENT INCREASE A MONTH OR TWO DOLLARS AND THIRTY TWO CENT INCREASE A MONTH ON THEIR BILL.
SO JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES MEAN TO THE TYPICAL CUSTOMER. THANK YOU.
ONE SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.
THANK YOU, MARY. LIKE, THEY LOOK AT THINGS I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I LIKE TO LOOK AT THINGS. WORST CASE SCENARIO.
LET'S SAY THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE DON'T INCREASE.
NOTHING, WE DON'T INCREASE WATER, WE DON'T INCREASE SEWER FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
TELL ME WHERE WE WOULD BE IN FIVE OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
YEAH. SO IF YOU DIDN'T INCREASE RATES? AT ANY POINT IN THE NEXT, LET'S SEE, BY FISCAL YEAR, TWENTY SEVEN FISCAL YEAR, TWENTY EIGHT, THAT KIND OF BALLPARK UTILITY WOULD BE IN LIKELY TECHNICAL DEFAULT OR IN RISK OF TECHNICAL DEFAULT ON ITS DEBT.
PROVIDED THAT THE UTILITY EXPANSIONS HAPPEN AS THEY'RE PLANNED, SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.
THE RATE INCREASE ITSELF PROVIDES ABOUT $800000 OF REVENUE TO THE UTILITY.
THE ONE ONE POINT SEVENTY FIVE AND THREE POINT SEVENTY FIVE.
SO LET'S SAY YOU DIDN'T DO THAT FOR THREE YEARS.
YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT EACH OF THOSE INCREASES BEING WORTH $800000 A YEAR IN RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FOR THE UTILITY SYSTEM.
SO IF WE WANT THE CITY'S WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES TO BE STRONG, SUSTAINABLE IN GOOD SHAPE, YOU'RE REALLY REDUCING THE POTENTIAL R&R RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT ONGOING NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM THAT THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY PASSED OVER OR DEFERRED TO YOUR FUTURE DATE.
AND SO THAT PROVIDER HAS CHRIS CAN SPEAK TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACTS OF THAT.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LEVEL OF SERVICE IMPACTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WATER QUALITY ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WATER AND SEWER SERVICES ARE REALLY FUNDAMENTAL TO A CITY OR GROWING CITY AND, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIAL.
SO. YOU, YOU KNOW, OF OTHER CITIES HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR WATER AND SEWER AND
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WITHIN THIS COUNTY OR OUTSIDE OF THIS COUNTY.ON OVER 100 COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA DURING THIS TYPE OF TYPE OF WORK, AND, YOU KNOW.
I WOULD SAY THE VAST MAJORITY HAVE ANNUAL INCREASES TO PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE FROM A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
THE WATER AND SEWER CPI, WHICH IS A MEASURE OF THE COST OF WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, SPECIFICALLY WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, TO A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER OVER A 20 30 YEAR PERIOD THAT'S AVERAGED ALMOST FIVE PERCENT A YEAR.
SO IT'S NOT A PALM BAY UNIQUE SITUATION.
IT'S YOU HAVE VERY EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THERE TO SERVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE USERS OF THE SYSTEM.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT A TAX, IT'S A CHARGE FOR SERVICE.
AND SO IT'S REALLY NOT UNIQUE TO PALM BAY.
IT'S IT'S AN INDUSTRY WIDE SITUATION AND EVERY COMMUNITY IS DEALING WITH.
HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICE, STRONG LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE RATE? AND THAT'S REALLY THE CITY'S GOAL.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE INDUSTRY'S GOAL AS A WHOLE.
OH, OUR WATER SERVICE, BECAUSE TO ME, WATER IS IS THE NEXT ALL.
AM I RIGHT? IT'S VERY CRUCIAL TO SURVIVAL AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND AM I CORRECT WITH THAT, 100 PERCENT AGREE.
AND. A LOT OF STATES ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH WATER AND RECLAIM WATER AND SEWER, SO.
DID YOU FIND THAT? THE PAST COUNCIL, THE PAST GOVERNMENT DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH OUR SEWER RATES AND OUR PIPING AND OUR. SYSTEMS. YOUR. YOU ARE A CONSULTANT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. AND YOU LOOKED OVER PALM BAY ISSUES.
AND WHAT WAS ALARMING TO YOU WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DID THIS? WHAT STOOD OUT TO YOU THAT WILL SET OFF ALARM BELLS? I THINK THE THE UTILITY ITSELF IS IN A IN A HEALTHY POSITION AT THE MOMENT.
BUT THE POINT IS TO STAY THAT WAY.
YOU KNOW, REVENUES NEED TO INCREASE AS EXPENSES NEED TO INCREASE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THE EXPENSE SIDE OF IT WHEN YOU'RE WRITING UTILITY SERVICE.
AND SO, YEAH, WE'VE BEEN SERVING THE CITY FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, BUT THE COUNCIL HAS MADE PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE MADE DECISIONS TO INCREASE RATES AT MARGINAL LEVELS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND SO THAT'S HELPED KEEP YOU IN THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE AT.
AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND OUR PROJECTION IS THAT THE ONE ONE, SEVEN FIVE AND THREE SEVEN FIVE IS GOING TO BE KIND OF THE IT'S THE PLAN FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AGAIN, WE'LL REVIEW IT. AND IF IT CAN COME DOWN BY ALL MEANS, THAT'S OUR THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD STRIVE TO. YOU RECOMMEND ULTIMATELY.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ON A GOOD PROJECTION TO PROVIDE SERVICE WITH ALL THIS INCREASE IN THE CITY. YEAH, PROVIDED YOU PROVIDED YOU INCREASE RATES THAT, YOU KNOW, SMALL MARGINAL LEVELS, IF YOU DEFER RATE INCREASES, I'VE SEEN IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH COMMUNITIES, THOSE THAT DEFER RATE INCREASES TO COME BACK FIVE, SEVEN YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, AND THERE'S A DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASE THAT NEEDS TO BE NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING DEBT THAT NEEDS TO BE SERVICED AND YOU'VE MADE PROMISES TO BONDHOLDERS. AND SO.
YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO STAY ON TOP OF IT SO THAT YOU DON'T RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE DOING MULTIPLE MULTIPLE YEARS OF DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES.
I MEAN, IF I WAS A, YOU KNOW, RATEPAYER IN THE CITY, I WOULD PREFER SMALL ANNUAL INCREASES AS OPPOSED TO.
BIG SWINGS AND JUMPS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WHAT COUNCIL WAS DOING OR WHAT DIRECTION WE WERE HEADED. SO IF I UNDERSTAND THE YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY FROM A RATES SETTING PERSPECTIVE.
I WOULD JUST SIMPLY MARRY JOHNSON.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE COMMUNITIES OR THE CITIES THAT HAVE DIFFERED OVER YEARS AND THEN SO.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN PROVIDE TO COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE OR? YEAH, I THINK IN FUTURE OR IF YOU HAVE TO CROSS OUT THEIR NAMES, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT TO SEE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD WE COULD PROBABLY COME BACK BACK WITH SOME EXAMPLES HERE. ALL RIGHT.
POSSIBLY BY THE SECOND HEARING, DO YOU THINK OR WITH THAT? LET ME SPEAK WITH THE CITY MANAGER OFFLINE ABOUT THAT.
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OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD DEADLINE.DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON NOT NOT JUST TO PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT.
YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING BEFORE WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION THAT THAT WILL BE.
AND A LOT OF IT IS EVEN IF THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE CAME BACK AND SAID IN A FEW YEARS THAT YOU NEEDED X PERCENT INCREASE AND IT WAS SOMETHING REALLY HIGH UNLESS THE COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT THAT, IT'S JUST SORT OF OUT THERE AS A RECOMMENDATION, NOT NOT AN ACTION, ACTIONABLE ITEM.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? THANK YOU. AND HE WENT FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF. YOU KNOW, I KEEP PROMOTING YOU, BUT.
BILL BATTEN, FIVE EIGHTY SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST AT THE.
WORKSHOP, I BROUGHT UP THE FACT BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERING MECHANISMS TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THE HAVE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE THAT HAVE NOT HOOKED UP TO IT, AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE.
WELL, AT THAT TIME, I QUESTIONED OF WHO WAS WHO DID NOT HAVE TO PAY INTO THE STORMWATER, INTO THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE, AND I SAID BECAUSE THERE'S YOU'RE TRYING TO CONSIDER WHO DOES AND WHO DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY.
AND THAT LIST WAS NOT PRESENTED TO ME.
I FOUND OUT TODAY AND I GOT AN APOLOGY BECAUSE I HAD REQUESTED IT.
AND AND THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT TAX EXEMPT.
WHO PAYS INTO STORM WATER AND WHO DOES NOT? RIGHT? BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER.
WHO HAS TO PAY AND WHO DOES NOT? IT'S NOT EVEN EQUITABLE IN THAT SIMPLE FACT.
CASE IN POINT, I CAN RELATE FROM MYSELF AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
I HAVE SIX ACRES, HE HAS 12, IS BACK, HIS BACK FIVE ACRES.
HE HAS TO PAY TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR FOR HIS PASTURE WHEN IT'S THE SAME AS MY PASTURE, ONLY BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE A MOTHER IN LAW, THEN.
SO OVER THE TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING STORMWATER FEES, HE HAS PAID OVER THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO STORMWATER FEES AND WE'RE CONSIDERING LETTING OTHER PEOPLE NOT PAY RIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M IT'S KIND OF A SORE SUBJECT.
AND THEN YOU SAY, WELL, AUTOMATICALLY, IF YOU'RE TAX EXEMPT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY WHEN WE HAVE OTHER RESIDENTS BECAUSE THAT'S A CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR VACANT LAND THAT WE THAT'S NOT A BIG RUNOFF COMPARED TO SOME OF THESE OTHER OTHER PAVED PARKING LOTS. WE HAVE THAT HAVE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RUNOFF COMPARED TO RESIDENTS THAT HAVE 100 PERCENT RETENTION.
SO THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT WHO HAS TO PAY, WHO DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY ON THAT ONE.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID? YOU GUYS GOT THE BUDGET ALL NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE PAGES OF IT, BETTER YOU THAN ME GOING LINE ITEMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SO I'M I'M AWARE, AS THE CHIEF, THAT THEY DID SEND OUT THAT LIST OF STORMWATER MADAM SHERMAN. YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU, SO THAT ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THE SEPTEMBER 20 SECOND WORKSHOP, I BELIEVE WE'RE HEARING, I SHOULD SAY, WITH THE OTHER RATES.
SO THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING WE WILL TALK THROUGH AT THAT TIME.
YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THAT TONIGHT, I GUESS, IS MY POINT.
SORRY. YEAH. AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT AS I AS MR BATTEN MENTIONED, I APOLOGIZE THAT EMAIL WAS IN MY INBOX AND I JUST REALIZED TODAY THAT IT HAD NOT GONE OUT TO HIM. SO I DID SEND THAT OUT TO HIM AND TO COUNCIL IN THE PROCESS.
SO I'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM YOURSELF THERE AND LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY.
AND THOSE EXEMPTIONS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS IN THERE THAT NEED TO BE FURTHER LOOKED AT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE GOOD ANSWERS FOR WHY THERE ARE DIFFERENT NAMES AND THINGS ON THE LIST. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AND I'VE ALREADY SENT THIS TO STAFF, HAS ASKED OUR RATE CONSULTANT PUTS THIS TOGETHER TO GIVE ME SOME ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I NOW HAVE, WHICH THERE ARE SOME THESE ARE.
SO THIS IS A LIST OF EXEMPTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED FOR MANY YEARS EACH YEAR, AND THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE CALL INSTITUTIONAL EXEMPTIONS.
SO THEY'VE BEEN GROUPS LIKE CHURCHES, SCHOOL, MAYBE NOT SCHOOLS, BUT PRIVATE LIKE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, TYPE THINGS, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN EXEMPTED FROM PAYING THE STORMWATER FEES.
WHAT I'VE ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT IS THERE ARE SOME NAMES ON THERE THAT LOOK LIKE INDIVIDUAL NAMES, SO WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY THEY'RE ON THERE.
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THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE OF NAMES THAT STRIKE ME BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPERTY AS BEING COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, SO I NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT, WHY THOSE ARE ON THERE.SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS LIST BEFORE WE FINALIZE IT.
BUT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, A PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING EARLY, THESE EXEMPTIONS ARE BUILT INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, BUT COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US SOME DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT REMOVING THOSE IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING, WORKING WITH COUNCIL ON THAT AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THE CURRENT GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THESE EXEMPTIONS FOR ALL THESE YEARS HAVE PLENTY OF ADVANCE NOTICE AND AWARENESS OF THE CHANGE THAT WILL COME.
AND MASTER CHIEF, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN OUR WORKSHOP THAT WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM THEM ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS AFTER THIS BUDGET YEAR THAT THIS IS GOING AWAY. AND SO I THINK MADAM SHERMAN TOUCHED ON THOSE THINGS.
THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT LIST THAT I DEFINITELY HAD, AND I ASKED MADAM SHERMAN TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE I WAS QUITE CONCERNED WITH A FEW OF THOSE.
BUT SHE'S THERE WORKING ON IT, AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
A DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN WITH THIS, AND HE MR. BATTEN MIGHT REMEMBER AS WELL SOME OF THESE ENTITIES, WE COULDN'T ENFORCE COLLECTING THE STORMWATER OR THAT WAS CORRECT.
THE TROUBLE. YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S A SEPARATE LIST FROM THAT LIST THAT IS ACTUALLY ALL THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.
SO LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU KNOW, MELBOURNE TILLMANS, PROBABLY A GOOD EXAMPLE.
THEY'RE A SPECIAL DISTRICT, SO THEY'RE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, SO THEY WOULDN'T PAY AS WELL.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S A SEPARATE LIST, AND I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO COUNCIL TOO.
YES, THANK YOU. MAYBE SEPARATE THOSE.
YEAH, IT IS A SEPARATE LIST, SIR.
OK. AND THOSE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER LEGALLY.
OK, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD, MA'AM. I LOVE THE UTILITIES ITEM, AND WE GOT.
YES, MA'AM, YES. MY NAME IS SUSAN CONNOLLY, 39.
OH, ONE DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.
I'D LIKE TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX.
I THINK THAT PALM BAY IS IN A RAPID GROWTH, WE'VE GOT UNDEVELOPED LAND.
WE'RE REACHING OUT FOR COMMERCIAL.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE SYSTEMS, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE USING SEWER SYSTEMS THAT ARE TOTALLY IN-HOUSE.
THEY USE PLANTS AND MICROBES AND AND THEY ACTUALLY CAN RECLAIM SOME OF THE WASTE AND USE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
THESE ARE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS EXPERIMENTAL, NOR IS IT, NOR IT HAS A LONG ENOUGH HISTORY THAT I THINK PALM BAY COULD CERTAINLY THINK IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS THAT ARE WILLING FROM THE START.
IT'S EASIER TO DO IT WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION THAN IT IS TO GO INTO CONSTRUCTION THAT IS ALREADY THERE AND AND CHANGE IT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LOOK AT OUR BUILDING E! YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT BEFORE.
USE OUR BUILDING E TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY SEWER WASTE THAT IS MANAGED IN-HOUSE RIGHT IN THAT BUILDING ON SITE, BUT ALSO LOOK AT OTHER SOLAR USE OF SOLAR IN WAYS THAT WE CAN BE COMPLETELY OFF THE GRID AND PRESERVE OUR ENVIRONMENT.
THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU CONSIDER WHAT I'VE SAID.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM? SO STEP FORWARD, MA'AM, YOU ARE SAYING YOU GOT TO COME TO THE MIC.
NOW TO COME TO THE MIC, MA'AM.
SALLY JOHNSON 1750 SANFILIPPO DRIVE, PALM BAY, I WANTED TO ASK WHAT THESE AD VALOREM TAXES ARE.
I MOVED HERE AND I NEVER HAD THAT.
SO ALL OF A SUDDEN MY NEIGHBOR COMES OVER.
SHE GOES, WHAT ARE THESE? AND WE'RE GOING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
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WE'RE GOING, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS IT? AND THEY KEEP CHANGING, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS, WHAT OUR AD VALOREM TAXES IS.THAT STORM. WHY? I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT? SO THAT THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS, HOW THAT'S FIGURED.
YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS HOW MUCH I PAY? AND SHE PAYS, YOU KNOW, AND WE LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT, FROM ONE ANOTHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKE, HOW WAS THAT FIGURED FOR EVERY PERSON YOU KNOW IN THIS CITY? AND I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, SIR, WHEN YOU SAID THE PERCENTAGES OF THE PAST YEARS OF COST, I WOULD EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
HOW MUCH IS EVERYTHING GOING UP, YOU KNOW, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S AN OLD ARMY FIRST SERGEANT HERE.
OUR CONCERN IS TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO TACKLE THE AD, VALON? YES, MAYOR. AND ACTUALLY, I MS. JOHNSON. I'LL BEFORE YOU LEAVE, IF YOU CAN HANG FOR THE WHOLE MEETING, I'LL GET YOU MY BUSINESS CARD. SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED. AND I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND LIKE WE CAN DO SOME COMPARISON OF LIKE YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL, THE NEIGHBORS.
I'LL SHOW YOU MINE OR WE CAN ALL JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND TALK THROUGH IT BECAUSE WHAT YOU FIND ON YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILLS, AD VALOREM TAXES ARE CALCULATED.
THE SCHOOL BOARD IS AN EXAMPLE OF CITIES AND EXAMPLE.
CERTAIN TAXING ENTITIES CAN ASSESS YOU A TAX AT CERTAIN RATES, AND IT IS CALCULATED BASED ON THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY, WHICH CAN CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
WE KNOW NON-FOOD VALOREM TAXES ARE ANY NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS, SO THEY'RE NOT CALCULATED SPECIFICALLY ON THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY.
BUT THEY'RE REALLY MORE LIKE A STORMWATER FEE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR IF THERE'S A SPECIAL DISTRICT, AND I'M NOT SURE THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT, BUT LIKE THE MOSQUITO CONTROL THAT WE ALL PAY FOR, IF THAT'S A NON AD VALOREM, IT'S GOING TO BE CALCULATED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. BUT I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION.
WE CAN SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, AS MANY RESIDENTS AS POSSIBLE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT ALL WORKS, AND I DO HAVE ALL MY LIST FROM PRIOR COMMENT. THE THE FOLLOW UP FOR SOME OF THE PAST INCREASES HOW HOW THAT'S BEEN LOOKING, WHAT HAS CAUSED PAST INCREASES IN TERMS OF CITY COSTS, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY GO THROUGH THAT AS WELL WHEN WE MEET, IF YOU LIKE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD JUST TO AS A REMINDER, I'M NOT SURE HOW NEW YOU ARE, BUT MAKE SURE YOU FILE FOR YOUR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AS WELL THAT THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
I I RAN INTO SOMEONE THAT DIDN'T DO THAT PROMPTLY, SO PLEASE LOOK INTO THAT.
AND ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? OR THE SIDE, IF NOT A LESS FOR EMOTION.
MOST OF THE PROOF ORDNANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, SIXTY ONE, FIRST READING, SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SO YOU'RE NOT I'M CALLING QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
I. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER THREE.
ORNETTE'S TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT SIXTY TWO.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 201 SEWER USE SUBCHAPTER MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS BY ADJUSTING THE PERMIT FEES AND OTHER CHARGES RELATED TO THE CITY'S UTILITIES WASTEWATER SYSTEM, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, OR WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO THIS IS CHAPTER TWO, ONE OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, EVEN THOUGH IT TALKS ABOUT THE TITLE, I THINK SAYS SEWER USE.
THERE'S JUST A HANDFUL OF FEES IN HERE, AND THESE ARE ALL MISCELLANEOUS FEES THAT GET CHARGED THAT PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION INCREASE OF ONE POINT ONE SEVEN PERCENT.
THE PRIOR ORDINANCE THAT YOU VOTED ON WAS ONE THAT INCLUDED THE WATER AND SEWER USER RATES. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALSO ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM STEPPED FORWARD AS THEIR CHIEF.
KNOW THAT IN 586, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
DURING THE WORKSHOP, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT PEOPLE DON'T HOOK UP TO THE WATER AND SEWER WHEN THEY HAVE IT AVAILABLE, AND IT COSTS THE CITY MONEY TO PUT THAT AVAILABLE TO THEM.
THERE'S BUT THEN I BROUGHT IT UP AT THAT TIME THAT THERE'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE
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CITY. ALMOST 80 PERCENT DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE TO THEM.I MEAN, EVEN IF THEY WANTED IT, IT'S NOT THERE.
SEPTIC AND THEY HAVE TO GO ON WELL IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT.
BUT A COMMENT WAS MADE THAT SAID, WELL, THEY'RE GETTING IT FOR FREE BECAUSE IT MEANS WE'RE NOT PAYING INTO THE CITY, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON SEPTIC AND UNWELL.
SO BILL BATON BEING THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT HE IS.
I GOT ESTIMATES FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T COMING INTO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING THAT HAS WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE FOR MANDATORY HOOKUP.
BUT THE OTHER SINGLE BUILDERS THAT ARE JUST THE AVERAGE DAY JOE, THEY FIND ONE LOT, RIGHT? AND THEY WANT IT AND THEY BUILD ON THAT HOUSE.
SO I WENT AHEAD AND WENT AND GOT ESTIMATES.
THESE ARE CURRENT ESTIMATES TO HAVE ONE INSTALLED.
SO A PERSON THAT DOES NOT HAVE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE FOR THEIR SEPTIC SYSTEM TO BE INSTALLED. RIGHT.
IT'S TEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS THAT'S INCLUDING PERMITTING WITH WITH THIS COUNTY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
AND IF YOU'RE ON A SYSTEM, IT HAS TO BE CREATED, ALL CREATED IN CONJUNCTION WITH JUST A SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT COST FOR THAT SEPTIC SYSTEM IS TWELVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS. SO I PROMISE YOU THE RESIDENT THAT'S NOT ON CITY WATER AND SEWER, THEY DO HAVE TO PAY. THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS THEM JUST FOR THE ABILITY TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING SOMETHING FOR FREE, I PROMISE YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THEN I WENT FROM THERE TO THE NEXT PART OF IT.
BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WELL, THE PRICE OF THE WELL IS RIGHT AROUND A $5000 BY THE TIME YOU PUT THE WELL IN AND HAVE A WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM ON IT. SO IF YOU ADD THE FIVE THOUSAND OF THE TWELVE THOUSAND, THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENT HAS TO PAY JUST MOVING INTO THE CITY DAY ONE IN ORDER TO LIVE IN THAT HOUSE, RIGHT? SO I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, UNFORTUNATELY, ON THIS ONE, BUT IT'S HERE'S WHAT IT COSTS.
I BROUGHT UP THE WEBSITE FOR BILL BATON ON TOP OF THAT COST.
THIS IS WHAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO CHARGE IS GOING TO CHARGE ME TO HOOK UP ON TOP OF WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT FOR THE HOOK UP FOR BILL BATON IS WATER LINE SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT AND FOR MY SEWER LINE HOOKUP TEN THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE. SO I'M LOOKING RIGHT AROUND EIGHTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR BILL BATON AFTER I'VE ALREADY PUT MY SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN TO START TO DISCONNECT ONE ONE MORE.
I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I'M SLIGHTLY OVER.
AND THEN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, THEY HAVE TO REMOVE IT AND ABANDON IT. THE COST FOR ABANDONMENT FOR THEM TO HOOK UP IS THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE DOLLARS TO ABANDON THE SYSTEM THAT THEY PAID FOR.
SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE GETTING IT FOR FREE, NO, THEY'RE NOT.
IT DOES COST THE RESIDENTS SUBSTANTIAL MONEY AND ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, I'D BE GLAD TO TALK WITH YOU, BUT THESE ARE REAL ESTIMATES, SO IT'S NOT STUFF.
I ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE HASSLE TO GET ESTIMATES FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK OR AGAINST SOCIETY? DO YOU KNOW NOW I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE? TWENTY TWENTY ONE SIXTY TWO? FIRST READING. I CAN GET A GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? JUST TO GIVE THE OTHER THE OTHER PART OF WHAT MR BATTEN WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE HAD STATIC COME DURING THE WORKSHOP, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED BY ME IF EVERYBODY WHO HAD WATER AND SEWER READILY AVAILABLE, IF THEY CONNECTED WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, DECREASE THE NEED FOR AN INCREASE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, AND THE ANSWER WAS YES.
SO THEN ALSO WHAT HE SAID WAS SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, WELL, THEY DON'T PAY ANYTHING WHICH YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN YOUR SEPTIC IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP IT, OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO LEAK.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S LEADING TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH TURKEY CREEK AND INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE CONVERSATION STARTED WITH IF EVERYBODY DID CONNECT, WOULD THAT HELP OUT WITH THE THE MAJORITY THAT ARE CONNECTED? SO THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SO, YOU KNOW, THEN I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR HIGH, AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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THERE ARE SIXTY THREE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE CHAPTER TOOL TO RECLAIM WATER BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR RECLAIMED WATER, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN A CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A CHAPTER 202, WHICH IS THE RECLAIMED WATER CHAPTER OF OUR ORDINANCES, AND THIS IS THE LAST IN THE SERIES OF THREE ORDINANCES BEING CONSIDERED FOR UTILITY INCREASES THE RECLAIMED WATER RATES OR RECOMMENDED TO INCREASE BY THE THREE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT USER RATE, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? THE AUDIENCE. THE FORWARD, PLEASE.
WELL, SMITH, WHAT EXACTLY IS RECLAIMED WATER? STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT YOU COLLECT.
AND I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, RIGHT, SIR, BUT YOU COULD FINISH YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION THIS MORNING BECAUSE IF THE STORM WATER RUNOFF, YOU GOT DITCHES, YOU GOT SEA FIFTY FOR CANAL AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE OTHER CANALS SUPPOSED TO BE LEADING INTO ONE.
YOU WANT TO GIVE US A RAISE THAT PERCENTAGE UP.
BUT HELL, THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY COULD PROBABLY RECLAIM THE WATER THEMSELVES.
SO MY QUESTION AGAIN IS WHY ARE YOU CHARGING OR RAISING IT THE COST OF IT, WHEN IT'S A STORM WATER RUNOFF, IT GOES INTO PONDS, RECLAIMED PONDS.
AND IT CAN BE RECLAIMED BY BUSINESSES WHEN THEY BUILD IT OR TO HOMEOWNERS WHERE THEY'RE LIVING AT. SO, MADAME SHERMAN, YES, MAYOR, SORRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND CRYSTAL, ARE UTILITIES RECTOR IS BY FAR THE EXPERT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU RECLAIMED WATER IS NOT STORMWATER RECLAIMED IS WHEN WE TAKE WHAT COMES IN SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH COMES INTO THE WASTEWATER PLANT AND WE TREAT IT TO SUCH A LEVEL THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY BE LAND APPLIED SO IT CAN BE USED FOR IRRIGATION.
NOT NOT TO DRINK, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY WASTEWATER SEWER WATER THAT HAS BEEN TREATED TO A SAFE LEVEL THAT CAN THEN BE USED IN IRRIGATION.
AND WE HAVE AND THAT SHOULD BE ON THE SEWER, THEN SEWAGE.
YEAH, THE WAY THE CODE ORDINANCES IS CREATED OR SEPARATED, SO YOU CAN RAISE UP MORE TAXES. WE JUST HAVE THREE SEPARATE CHAPTERS, BUT SO JUST ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM ANSWERED.
YES. AND THE LAST THING I WAS GOING TO SAY, MAYOR IS JUST THAT BECAUSE THE RECLAIMED RATES ARE TIED TO THE SEWER RATES, BECAUSE IT'S ALL REALLY ONE SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE RATES GO UP AT THE SAME LEVEL, BOTH AT THE THREE POINT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT. OK, THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO GET MOTION COUNSEL MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, SIXTY THREE FIRST READING.
AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON YOU WANTED? THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
IS IT OK TO HAVE MR. DIRECTOR LITTLE TO COME UP AND CLEARLY COUNSEL EXPLAINED THAT FORWARD MS. A LITTLE. CHRIS LOW, UTILITIES DIRECTOR.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS OVERALL, WHAT UTILITY DEPARTMENT IS DOING? WHY ARE WE INCREASING THE RATES THE RECLAIMED WATER SEWER SYSTEM JUST GIVE A BRIEF.
THE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC WELL, GENERALLY THE THE RATES ARE MEANT TO SUSTAIN THE SYSTEM, MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
WE'RE DEALING WITH A WATER SYSTEM THAT WAS INSTALLED BY GENERAL DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES IN THE 60S. WE HAVE A WASTEWATER SYSTEM THAT WAS INITIALLY INSTALLED IN THE 70S, SO WE'RE 50, 60 YEARS FORWARD FROM WHEN THEY INSTALLED THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND A LOT OF IT IS THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE GROUND.
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SO OUR USER RATES AND THESE INCREASES ARE MEANT TO REHAB AND REHAB AND REPLACE THAT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND.IN ADDITION, AS JEFF HAD EXPLAINED EARLIER, WE ALSO HAVE TO USE THOSE RATES.
EVERYONE PAYS IMPACT FEES EXCEPT FOR SCHOOLS.
SO NO ONE GETS A FREE RIDE ON IMPACT FEES.
EVERYONE PAYS THEIR IMPACT FEES FOR EXPANSION THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.
HOWEVER, WE DO NOT COLLECT ENOUGH IMPACT FEES TO HANDLE, LET'S CALL IT THE BIG TICKET ITEMS AT OUR FACILITIES.
WE HAVE WASTEWATER PLANTS AND WATER PLANTS THAT WE CAN'T LOOK AT A DEVELOPER AND SAY, I NEED $25 MILLION.
SO WE USE THOSE RATES FOR THAT.
SO WE HAVE TO PLAN TO FIX ITEMS FROM THE PAST THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING NOW AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD.
RECLAIM WATER HAS MS., SHERMAN STATED, IS SEWAGE THAT'S BEEN TREATED HIGH LEVEL DISINFECTION THAT GOES OUT TO THE SYSTEM FOR IRRIGATION PURPOSES AND COOLING TOWERS.
WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
HOWEVER, IT IS EXPENSIVE TO DO SO.
OK, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
NEW DEVELOPMENT. OR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN PALM BAY.
ARE THEY HOOKED UP TO THE WATER OR SEWER, ALL SUBDIVISIONS THAT COME IN PLANNED UNIT SUBDIVISIONS? THEY ARE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO WATER AND SEWER, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR IMPACT TO THE SYSTEM, SO THEY PUT IN THEIR UTILITIES AND CONNECT TO OUR UTILITY.
IF OUR UTILITY IS NOT IN THE VICINITY, THAT DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY THE FULL COST TO GET IT FROM POINT A TO POINT B TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION SO THEY BEAR THE BURDEN OF THE COST AND.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT OVERALL PALM BAY, HOW MANY WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO HAS WATER AND SEWER? SO WE HAVE 37000 ACCOUNTS THAT ARE THAT HAVE WATER AND ABOUT SIXTEEN THOUSAND SIXTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THAT ARE WATER AND SEWER THAT WOULD BE PAYING THESE FEES, RIGHT? YES.
SO NOT EVERYBODY IN PALM BAY PAYS.
WATER AND SEWER FEES, CORRECT? YOU TALKED ABOUT OUR SYSTEM.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR HOW LONG? WHAT'S THE LIFE USES IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING TO IT? HOW LONG WOULD THAT LAST? SO THE MATERIALS THAT THEY USED IN THE PAST FOR WATER, THE ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE IT'S BEEN WE HAVE A LOT OF IT IN THE SYSTEM.
THE SERVICE LIFE 20 TO 40 YEARS, BUT A LOT OF IT'S BEEN IN ALMOST 60 YEARS.
THEY USED A LOT OF IRON PIPE CAST IRON PIPE THAT AGAIN 20 YEARS ON THE SEWER SIDE, THEY USE WHAT THEY CALL VITRAKVI VITRIFIED CLAY PIPE AS THE CONVEYANCE BETWEEN MANHOLES THAT AGAIN. TWENTY TWENTY FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE DEALING WITH VCP, AS IT'S CALLED.
THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED SINCE THE SEVENTIES.
NOW WHEN YOU GET INTO THE NEWER PIPE MATERIALS THAT WE USE, DUCTILE IRON OR PVC, PVC LASTS ALMOST FOREVER.
I MEAN, IT'LL HAVE 100 YEAR SERVICE LIFE, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T START USING THE PVC UNTIL THE LATE EIGHTIES, THE EARLY 90S, THE STUFF THAT WILL LAST FOR THAT LONG.
I KNOW I'M GOING A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG, BUT I WANTED.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO ALL OF THEM, BUT.
HUM, SINCE YOU. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DIRECTOR OF THE UTILITIES? ALMOST FOUR YEARS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN DIRECTLY.
HOW MANY PIPE FAILURES HAVE YOU HAPPENED UNDER YOUR WATCH THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT NO FAULT OF YOU, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WEAR OF THE PIPES SHOULD OF THE PIPES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND AND THE FLAT OUT FAILURES, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY.
HOWEVER, WE FIND LEAKY PIPES ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY, WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS 40 TO 60 YEARS OLD AND WE GO IN FREQUENTLY WITH CAMERA EQUIPMENT TO FIND ME SO THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THEM, ASSESS THEM AND THEN REPAIR THEM.
WHAT HAPPENS? WHERE DID THIS LEAK GOES? IT GOES INTO OUR WASTEWATER PLANT.
SO TYPICALLY IN FLORIDA, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SEWERS, THAT THEY, YOU
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KNOW, IF THEY'RE BROKEN PIPES OR THEY'RE LEAKY PIPES, THAT IT'S LEACHING OUT INTO THE ENVIRONMENT. BUT BECAUSE IN FLORIDA, THE WATER TABLE IS SO HIGH.ALL OF OUR GRAVITY SEWER IS BELOW THE WATER TABLE.
SO INSTEAD OF THE SEWAGE LEAKING OUT THE SEWER, THE WATER, THE GROUNDWATER COMES IN AND INUNDATES OUR WASTEWATER PLANT.
BUT THAT CAUSED A PROBLEM FOR US.
IT CAUSES US TO TREAT ESSENTIALLY GROUNDWATER AND STORMWATER THROUGH OUR WASTEWATER PLANT. AND MEANS CONSTRUCTION, THE BUILDING, A NEW WASTEWATER PLANT ARE CORRECT.
AND WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE TIME OF THAT GETTING COMPLETED? SO BY CONTRACT, THE FINAL COMPLETION IS DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START TREATING AND TESTING THE THE PLANT PROCESSES ACCEPTING SEWAGE IN LATE THIRD QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. SO THE REASON WHY WE NEED THAT PLANT IS BECAUSE.
WELL, WE NEED IT BOTH FOR EXPANSION THAT'S OCCURRING ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ALSO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DIVERT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SEWAGE FROM THE OLDER LEAKY SYSTEM, SO TO SPEAK, AND HAVE A GO TO THE NEWER WHERE WE HAVE PVC PIPES, THINGS LIKE THAT AT OUR SOUTH FACILITY. OK, AND THE COST OF THAT, THE WASTEWATER PLANT 25 MILLION AS OF TODAY.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX THANK YOU, MS. A LITTLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN.
THE NONE I'M CALLING TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTED A FINAL BUDGET AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS ITEM IS THE CULMINATION OF ALL THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL FIRST READING FIRST VOTE ON THE PRESENTED PROPOSED WITH CHANGES FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO BUDGET BASED ON THE SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE NINE FIVE THREE PERCENT CAP RATE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND SO ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR THIS ASYLUM OR AGAINST ASYLUM.
MOST OF THE PROOF OR ITS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH, SIXTY FOUR FIRST READING.
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION COUNCIL.
SO FOR THE PUBLIC, WE ARE HAVING ANOTHER HEARING.
AS MS. COLLINS STATED, THE NEXT ONE WILL BE SEPTEMBER 22ND.
SO AFTER YOU SPEAK TO HER OR STAFF OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET, PLEASE COME TO THE NEXT ONE OR STILL COME ANYWAYS.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MEDINA JOHNSON WE WE LOVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON SOMETHING THAT I THINK I NEED TO SHARE WITH THIS COUNCIL IS TRUTH TRUTH TO EVERYONE'S WORD.
WE WE WENT ON THE SEVEN POINT FIVE NINE FIVE MILITARY AND I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL AGAIN BECAUSE THERE WAS THERE WAS TALK ABOUT GOING ABOVE THAT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR NOT GOING ABOVE THAT AND NOT EVEN CONSIDERING IT. SO THANK YOU.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON MADE THE MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
AND THAT IS ALL BUSINESS FOR TODAY, AND SO THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.