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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2021 26 TO ORDER THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY BRIAN TURNER OF CHURCH OF THE BLESSED REDEEMER AND THEN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, SO PLEASE RISE.
WELL, PRAY. GRACIOUS AND LOVING GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GATHER HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS AND EXECUTE THE IMPORTANT WORK YOU'VE PUT BEFORE OUR CITY AND ITS LEADERS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON US.
EACH OF US TODAY, WE LIFT UP BEFORE YOU AND PRAY FOR THE LEADERS OF OUR CITY.
OUR MAYOR AND THIS ASSEMBLED COUNCIL.
AND FOR THE CITIZENS WHO ARE PRESENT HERE TONIGHT.
THE WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE COMPLEX INTERESTS AND ISSUES OF OUR TIME, THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE FORESIGHT OF WHAT IS TRULY NEEDED IN THIS CITY THAT WE ALL LOVE.
A THIRST FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR ALL YOUR PEOPLE.
THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN THE MIDST OF DIVERSITY AND DISAGREEMENT, AS WELL AS A SENSE OF PEACE AND JOY.
AND THEIR TASKS AHEAD TONIGHT FOR THE AGENDA BEFORE US, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THIS COUNCIL AN ASSURANCE OF WHAT IS PLEASING TO YOU AND WHAT WOULD MOST BENEFIT THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE IN THIS CITY OF PALM BAY.
I ASK ALL THESE THINGS TO THE NAME OF YOUR BLESSED SON, JESUS CHRIST.
AMEN. TERESE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL WHO ROAR.
MAYOR MEDINA, PRESIDENT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON BURAK, COUNCILMAN FOSTER YEAH, COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE. MS. SHERMAN MS. SMITH HERE.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU, MAYOR.WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BOARD REPRESENTS AT-LARGE MEMBER WHO OWNS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR OPERATES A BUSINESS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS RESIDENTIAL HOMEBUILDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOMEBUILDING, FOR PROFIT PROVIDER OR NONPROFIT PROVIDER POSITION. TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITIONS. ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ADULT MEMBER 30 YEARS IN OLDER POSITION AND ONE VACANCY ON THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT-LARGE POSITION. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR VISIT US AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THREE FOUR ONE FOUR.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MADAM SHERMAN YES.
[AGENDA REVISIONS]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE ONE REVISION TO ANNOUNCE ITEM NUMBER 20 UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA RELATING TO THE CHIEF BUILDING.OFFICIAL SALARY INCREASE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY STAFF.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MADAM SMITH. NO, SIR.THANK YOU, MAYOR. ITEMS SEVEN, SEVEN NINE.
I REPEAT ONE MORE TIME ITEMS SEVEN, NINE, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 19 AND 20 ONE.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYONE WISH TO HOLD ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL ITEMS? TYPEKIT MAYOR JOHNSON. OK, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, SO MOVED.
BUT I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[7. Award of Proposal: Federal lobbying services - RFP 60-0-2021 (Alcalde & Fay, LTD. - $54,000 annually).]
RAND OLSAVSKY.GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT, BRIGADE STREET, NORTHEAST, EVERYBODY'S DOING WELL THIS EVENING.
I BRING THIS ITEM UP BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE AND JUST REFLECT ON KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
WE'RE STEPPING INTO THE SPACE OF HAVING A LOBBYIST FOR US IN WASHINGTON AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONE IN TALLAHASSEE.
AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE LEGWORK THAT WENT INTO GETTING TO THE POINT OF HAVING THIS CANDIDATE ESSENTIALLY NARROW DOWN TO AND HAVE THIS PROPOSAL IN FRONT.
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AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, OR FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH.AND YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT OF HAVING A LOBBYIST HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED UPON.
BUT WHAT I REALLY LIKE TO KNOW IS IF IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING TO THIS PROPOSAL, WE WERE ABLE TO NARROW DOWN WHAT KIND OF DELIVERABLES THIS LOBBYIST IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BECAUSE WHEN I READ ABOUT THE THE CITIES THAT THIS FIRM IS HELPING, YOU KNOW, SOME LOCAL CITIES TO US, SOME IN BREVARD COUNTY, VOLUSIA, PORT ST.
LUCIE, ALL AROUND US, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THOSE EFFORTS IN WASHINGTON.
AND WHEN THOSE EFFORTS ARE SUCCESSFUL FOR THE OTHER CITIES, WE WE WILL GET BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, BY WAY.
SO I'M JUST REALLY TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHY THE CITY OF PALM BAY SHOULD SPEND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE THAT OUR INTERESTS WERE MET AND THAT WE GOT THE BANG FOR OUR BUCK THERE.
SO IF WE COULD JUST DIALOG ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM SEVEN, MADAM SHERMAN? CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE ON THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I'LL START OFF BY JUST SAYING THAT ONE OF THE GOALS OF HAVING THIS FEDERAL LOBBYIST IN PLACE IS TO ASSIST THE CITY WITH BEING SUCCESSFUL IN ACQUIRING GRANTS AND HOPEFULLY EVEN APPROPRIATIONS IF THAT BECOMES AN OPPORTUNITY UP IN THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
SPECIFIC TO SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT WE'D BE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH, THERE ARE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IN THE CITY.
MALABAR IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE THE ESTIMATED PRICE TAG FOR THOSE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, FOR THE FULL COST OF ADDITIONAL ACQUISITION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ENGINEERING AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE ROADWAYS FOR WIDENING IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES.
THERE IS FEDERAL FUNDING AVAILABLE, BUT WE CURRENTLY ARE NOT POSITIONED REALLY TO ACCESS IT IN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL WAY WITH THE STRATEGY.
WE'D ALSO BE LOOKING AT OTHER TYPES OF SUPPORT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL INITIATIVES, WATER WASTEWATER TYPE INITIATIVES AND OTHER ITEMS LIKE THAT.
AS TO THE LIKE, THE SCOPE AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE LIBERAL DELIVERABLES FOR THE FOR THE CONTRACTOR, I WOULD ACTUALLY CHECK WITH STAFF ON WHETHER THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED YET OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON.
IF YOU HAVE AN INFORMATION ON THAT, JOAN, YOU WANT TO SHARE.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY THE SCOPE OF WORK DEFINED AS WORKING WITH OUR CITY LEADERSHIP TEAM, SO YOURSELVES AND CITY MANAGEMENT, OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, AS WELL AS THEIR KEY STAFF, DEVELOP AND UNDERSTAND THE THE UNDERSTANDING OF OUR NEEDS.
AS A CITY MANAGER, SUZANNE MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE GRANT SUPPORT.
APPROPRIATIONS FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CURRENTLY TAP INTO.
WE HAVE A STATE LOBBYIST, BUT THERE ARE SOME APPROPRIATIONS AND POLICY ITEMS THAT WE COULD REALLY GO AFTER FROM A FEDERAL POSITION.
THE CITY PRETTY WELL. WE ALSO HAVE IN HERE WORKING WITH OUR OTHER EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE DOING IT AT A STAFF LEVEL.
OUR STATE LOBBYIST DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF SUPPORT.
MONITORING FEDERAL LEGISLATION, FEDERAL BUDGET PROCESSES, REPORTING BACK TO THE CITY, GIVING US A HEADS UP ON ITEMS THAT WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IF WE WERE TO GET IN ADVANCE OF THAT, THAT POLICY OR THAT LEGISLATION.
AND THEN FINALLY, DEVELOP A STRATEGY TO SECURE FEDERAL FUNDING, WHICH SUZANNE MENTIONED, BUT WE WOULD DO THAT IN THE SAME MANNER THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING OUR STATE LOBBYING.
I'M TO YOU BEFOREHAND, WE TALK ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES.
WE RANK THEM WE'D GET BEFORE THOSE FEDERAL LOBBY FEDERAL LEGISLATORS, AND THEN WE WOULD GO AFTER FOR FUNDING APPROPRIATIONS AND.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON TO THAT THAT CONTRACT IS FOR ONE YEAR SO WE COULD SEE THE DELIVERABLES AS YOU SO CALLED IT, AND THEN WE COULD TAKE IT FROM THERE.
COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IN FOSTER.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS ELECTED TO DO AND AND.
WE GET WE SELECT THE LOWEST BIDDER FOR THIS CONTRACT AS FEDERAL LOBBYIST CONTRACT.
BUT THIS THIS INDIVIDUAL, THIS AGENCY IS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
AND I FELT AND THE STAFF FELT THAT BEING IN WASHINGTON, D.C., IN D.C., CLOSE TO WHERE THE ACTION ACTUALLY HAPPENED IS A GREAT BENEFIT.
AND THEY DID A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR COCO AND.
I FOUND OUT MOST CITIES IN FLORIDA HAS A FEDERAL LOBBYIST AND OUR STATE LOBBYIST DELIVERED FOR US THIS YEAR.
AND WITH ALL THE MONEY FLOWING OUT OF WASHINGTON THESE DAYS, I THINK WE NEED TO TRY TO GET A PIECE OF THAT.
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AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS CREATING A FEDERAL STRIKE FORCE TEAM TO LOBBY ON BEHALF OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.AND I VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON THAT TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT PALM BAY GETS THIS SLICE OF THE PIE. SO I REALLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO PASS THIS.
THE STAFF DID YEOMAN'S WORK, AND WE WORK VERY HARD TO SELECT THE RIGHT LOBBYISTS FOR US IN D.C. THANK YOU.
THAT EMOTION COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
YES, I MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AWARD IN A PROPOSAL OF FEDERAL LOBBYIST SERVICES AS RFP 60 DASH ZERO DASH 20 20 ONE SECOND.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN, SEE YOU.
[9. Acknowledgement of the Semi-Annual Report of Formal Solicitations awarded by the Procurement Department from March 19, 2021, through September 17, 2021.]
YOU'RE GOOD. SORRY.RED OLSZEWSKI. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST ITEM NINE IS A REPORT FROM THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT, AS NECESSITATED FROM MARCH 19 TO TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO SEPTEMBER 17.
ESSENTIALLY, THE THINGS WE PAID AND THE THINGS THAT WE PAID THAT WERE LESS THAN ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THEREFORE THEY HAPPENED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
ONE OF THE ITEMS IS FOR AUTO BODY REPAIR.
IT'S A RATHER GENERAL ITEM AND THE TOTAL ON IT IS FIFTY THOUSAND.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT WE SPENT FIFTY THOUSAND ON FOR AUTO BODY REPAIR BETWEEN MARCH 19TH AND SEPTEMBER 17TH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLES THE CITY OWNS, BUT NO MATTER WHAT THE NUMBER IS, IF I DIVIDE THAT BY FIFTY THOUSAND, I'M NOT GOING TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THE COST PER UNIT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO REALLY WRAP MY HEAD AROUND 50 GRAND IN THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
I'M VERY GLAD THAT IT WAS AT A PALM BAY BASED BUSINESS AND ESTABLISHMENT, SO KUDOS FOR THAT. BUT THEN I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF AND I HATE TO USE THE TERM BECAUSE IT HAS SUCH A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION, BUT DISCIPLINED PROCESS THERE IS FOR FOLKS THAT ARE LACK OF A BETTER WAY SAYING IT, SMASHING UP THESE CITY VEHICLES AND RACKING UP THIS $50000 WORTH OF BODY REPAIR.
WE HAVE A ONE TO THREE STRIKE SITUATION.
WHAT HAVE YOU? CHIEF MOIA IN THE PAST HAS GIVEN US A PRETTY DETAILED FORMAT FOR HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLES THAT, SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE THERE.
BUT AS FAR AS THE VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE RACKING UP THIS BILL, I'M REALLY CURIOUS.
I THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL ASK OUR CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER, JULIET MOSCONI, TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE PALM BAY COLLISION REPAIR QUESTION AND THEN I'LL ADDRESS THE DAMAGE TO VEHICLES. THANK YOU, JULIET MOSCONI, CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S LISTED IS EITHER THE ESTIMATE OR A ONE TIME WHENEVER YOU SEE A NICE ROUND NUMBER LIKE FIFTY THOUSAND SIXTY THOUSAND THIRTY THOUSAND.
THOSE ARE TIME AND MATERIAL BASED CONTRACTS AS NEEDED AS THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS ARE REQUIRED FOR PAYING FOR THOSE SERVICES AND GOODS.
SO IN THIS CASE, THIS IS AN ANNUAL ESTIMATE OF THE AMOUNT OF REPAIRS BASED ON HISTORICAL VALUE FOR ANY TYPES OF AUTO BODY COLLISION REPAIRS.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, JULIET, AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT IF MR. OLSZEWSKI WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DETAIL OF WHAT WE'VE SPENT SO FAR, WE CAN CERTAINLY PULL THAT REPORT FOR YOU.
THE OTHER THING JUST TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT DAMAGES TO VEHICLES, SO TYPICALLY TAKES ONE OF TWO PATHS.
IT DEPENDS ON IF THE VEHICLE THAT WAS DAMAGED WAS IN THE DRIVER, THE EMPLOYEE WAS AT FAULT OR IF IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE WHO DAMAGED THE VEHICLE.
SO OBVIOUSLY, IF IT WAS A CITY STAFF ISSUE AND OUR DRIVER WAS DETERMINED, BE AT FAULT.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A DISCIPLINED PROCESS.
IT'S PART OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND HOW WE HANDLE DISCIPLINE ISSUES.
SOME CONTRACTS OR SOME WAYS OF HANDLING THAT HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FLOW AND PROCESS, DEPENDING ON IF THE EMPLOYEE IS UNDER ONE OF OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS, SO IS UNIONIZED. BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION, IF YOU'D LIKE THAT, FOLLOW UP.
ALSO ON ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
THE ADDITIONAL CARDS ON THIS ONE, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE SEMIANNUAL REPORT OF FORMAL SOLICITATIONS ISSUED AND AWARDED BY PROCUREMENT FROM MARCH 19.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE THROUGH SEPTEMBER 17.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YOU NONE. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.
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PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.[11. Consideration of a purchase offer for City-owned surplus real estate, generally located at 1230 Jacob Street SE, from buyer Fred DeNicci Construction ($135,505).]
MR. BILL BATTEN. NO BATON, FIVE EIGHTY SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A TWO POINT THREE ACRE SITE SEEMED LIKE A LOW PRICE TO BE PAYING.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT ARE GOING FOR TWENTY TO TWENTY FIVE, EVEN THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND AS WELL HAVE NO WATER, NO SEWER.
WELL, LOTS THAT ARE GOING FOR $30000 ALSO HAVE NO WATER AND SEWER.
SO FOR SOMEBODY TO GET TWO POINT THREE ACRES FOR ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, SOMEBODY'S GOT A GOOD DEAL.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN, THOUGH, IS THE FACT THAT THAT'S ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. IT'S GOING TO GO IN TO PAY FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE OF OUR ROADS.
BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR OUR ROADS.
PEOPLE SELLING THESE LOTS, THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE $4 MILLION WE NEED ANNUALLY FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE.
AND THE FINAL ITEM WITH THIS ONE WAS WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP UNDER GOOGLE.
SEARCH OF THE AREA OF THIS SHOWS THAT IT WAS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR A TRASH DUMP SITE.
AND I'M CURIOUS, DOES THE CITY HAVE TO CLEAN UP THIS MESS OR IS THE DEVELOPER THE PERSON BUYING IT GOING TO CLEAN UP THIS MESS? JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE THAT'LL BE CUTTING INTO THE PROFIT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FROM US, UNLESS THE DEVELOPER THAT'S THE PERSON WHO PURCHASED IT AT SUCH A GREAT RATE WAS WILLING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS? SO COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO ADD, I AGREE WITH MR. BANNON WHEN THIS MS. THE BATMAN WAS GOING TO PULL IT OUT, I WAS DEFINITELY PULLING IT.
I SPOKE WITH MADAM SHERMAN ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY.
AND THEN WE WE DISCUSSED THAT THERE IS NO CITY WATER ON THAT SITE AND AND THERE IS A DISTANCE BETWEEN WHERE A LINE IS.
SO MY MY CURIOSITY WAS, CAN WE PROVIDE SERVICES THERE? AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU YOU FOUND AN ANSWER TO? I DIDN'T. I DON'T KNOW THAT I ACTUALLY GOT A CHANCE TO TALK TO CHRIS LIDDELL OR UTILITIES DIRECTOR ABOUT THAT. BUT THE CONCERN WAS THAT THIS LOCATION ON JACOBS STREET IS IN BETWEEN AREAS THAT HAS WATER ACCESS AND THE CURRENT THE CLOSEST WATER ACCESS IS ON SANFILIPPO. AND I BELIEVE THE ISSUE THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THE COST TO LOOP UTILITIES. SO TO REQUIRE THAT OF A TWO POINT THREE ACRE PARCEL IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT WOULD BE A FINANCIALLY PROHIBITIVE FOR OBVIOUSLY ANYBODY BUYING IT.
OK, I'M NOT CANCELED, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE SALE OF THIS.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT SIX SLOTS, MADAM SHERMAN.
HOW MANY? ACTUALLY, I'LL ASK IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I DON'T MIND NANCY, BUT OUR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO COME UP AND SHARE A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
AND ALSO, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OFFERS THAT WE DID RECEIVE.
ENTERING COUNCIL INTO COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
YES, THE OFFER WAS THE ONE THREE FIVE FIVE OH FIVE WAS CONTINGENT UPON THE THE PURCHASER BEING ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE IT OUT INTO SIX LOTS, SO HE WILL HAVE TO EXTEND THE ROAD OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE MAP AND THEN IF IT REQUIRES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WATER SEWER BECAUSE IT IS A SUBDIVIDE SO AS IT FRONTS HERE.
THEY'LL HAVE TO EXTEND THE ROAD OUT HERE, AND THEY ONCE PUT THREE AND THREE, SO IT'D BE CONTINGENT UPON THAT.
WE DID RECEIVE ANOTHER OFFER, WHICH WAS ONE THIRTY FIVE, AND THE APPRAISAL CAME OUT AT ABOUT ONE POINT THIRTY FIVE. SO IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT TWENTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS PER LOT AND THEN HE HAS TO BUILD THE ROAD IN ANY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, NOT SO MUCH OF A QUESTION, BUT BUT JUST SO I'M TRYING TO BUILD A CASE.
NORMALLY I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OF OF A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
I THINK THE CITY'S DOING THIS IS A GOOD OFFER.
WE SHOULD TAKE IT AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY.
THE AVERAGE NO CITY WATER, NO CITY SEWER, IT'S IN THE LOW 200.
SO IF I'M SORRY IN THE LOW 20S, SO IF WE SUBDIVIDED, THIS PROPERTY HAS ONLY ONE ENTRANCE IS FACING ONE STREET, SO IT'S LOCKED IN ALL ALL THE OTHER THREE THREE SECTIONS.
SO REALLY, IT'S TRULY A BURDEN ON THE ON THE HOMEOWNER, ON THE ON THE NEW BUYER TO PROVIDE RIGHT AWAY, TO PROVIDE, IF THEY SHOULD, THEY WANT TO DEVELOP IT LIKE THAT.
AND TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN POSSIBLY PUT SIX SIX, YOU KNOW, LOTS ON
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THERE. IT'S IT'S REALLY I MEAN, I SEE I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S POSSIBLE.IT'S REALLY IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO BE A CUL DE SAC. ONE ENTRANCE, CUL DE SAC, MAYBE MAYBE FOUR LOTS, AND THE BURDEN WOULD BE ON THEM IN TERMS OF BRINGING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET A BETTER DEAL THAN THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WAS HOW LONG THIS PROPERTY BEEN UP FOR SALE IN THE CITY.
IT WAS AROUND APRIL WHEN ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES GOT LISTED.
AND. THE BUYER IS WILLING TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE CORRECT.
YES. OK, SO WE ONLY HAD TWO OFFERS.
ALL RIGHT, SO IT'S ALSO CONTINGENT GIVES NINE MONTHS TO CLOSE AS CONTINGENT UPON GOING THROUGH THE CITY'S APPROVALS SO THAT IF HE COULD BUILD THE SIX LOTS IF HE FINDS IT, HE CAN'T AND THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WHETHER THE CITY REQUIRES A CUL DE SAC OR THEY WILL ALLOW HIM JUST TO DEAD END IT.
SO IF THEY REQUIRE A CUL DE SAC, HE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THE SIX LOTS, SO THEN HE WOULD WITHDRAW. WHAT WAS THE APPRAISAL PRICE ON THAT? WE DID A COMPARATIVE MARKET ANALYSIS BECAUSE SO IT'S UNDER THE 10 ACRES.
SO IT WAS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND AND THE OFFER WAS FOR 135.
HIS ORIGINAL OFFER WAS ONE THIRTY FIVE.
AND SO HE COUNTERED THAT SO THEY WENT WITH THE HIGHEST AND BEST, AND THAT'S WHERE HE CAME UP WITH THE ONE. THIRTY FIVE FIVE.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, I'M STILL GOOD WITH AT LEAST TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND PER IL SIX.
I UNDERSTAND THOSE CHALLENGES, BUT THE WAY THE MARKET IS TODAY, I WANT TO CAPITALIZE ON THE ROAD FROM THE. THAT'S WHAT HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
WE'RE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS AWAY EACH AND EVERY YEAR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE UP WITH THESE PROPERTIES. BUT DEFINITELY, I THINK WE COULD COUNTER OFFER AND SEE WHERE THAT GOES.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS OR SO? WHAT IS THAT AN EXTRA EIGHTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS? IF I'M IF I'M DOING MY MATH CORRECTLY? SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
COUNCILMAN FELIX. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T THINK THIS DEAL IS GOING TO GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THEY WANT ABOUT NINE MONTHS TO CLOSE.
YES, IT'S A CONTINGENCY NINE MONTHS TO NINE MONTHS, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT TAKES.
WE KNOW HOW ON EARTH, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
SO I MEAN, I'D SAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE GOT.
ACCEPT THE PRIZE AND SEE WHAT WHAT COMES OF IT.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GIVING THEM NO CLUE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY AT THE END, IT WOULD BE A GOOD FINANCIAL DECISION FOR THEM. AND TRULY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME TO TO DELVE OPEN TO TO WHAT THEY WANT. YOU KNOW, THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN.
I DON'T SEE IT POSSIBLE, BUT I'D SAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
OK, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WITHIN THIS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WITHIN NINE MONTHS THAT THAT MAY BE A DEAL BREAKER ANYWAY IF THEY CAN'T FIT IT INTO SIX LOTS.
ONCE HE DETERMINES WHAT HE NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S JUST THE DEAD END OR A CUL DE SAC, WHETHER HE'S REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S SIX LOTS, WHETHER HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BRING WATER AND SEWER, OR HE COULD DO SEPTIC AND WELL WATER.
THAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S REALLY DEVELOPABLE FORM BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT NOW AT TWENTY TWO THOUSAND PER LOT, THEN HE'S GOT TO CLEAR IT AND THEN DETERMINE HOW MUCH THE ROAD AND WHETHER IT NEEDS A CUL DE SAC OR DEAD END.
THAT'S THAT MAY CUT OFF SOME LOTS.
AND THEN WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BRING WATER AND SEWER, THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE A QUESTION.
IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE A COST TO HIM.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE MAY WITHDRAW HIS HIS OFFER.
SO THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS BRINGING WATER AND SEWER.
HIS DISCUSSION IS ONCE TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE CITY, SO HE WOULD HAVE TO DESIGN IT OUT AND THEN HAVE THE CITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM REVIEW IT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD NEED THE WATER SEWER, WHETHER HE COULD JUST DO A DEAD END OR A CUL DE SAC, HOW EXACTLY HE WOULD DESIGN IT. WATER AND SEWER IS INTRIGUING TO ME.
THE MAYOR MIGHT JUST NOD TO THAT.
I MS., THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR, DID RESPOND TO MY INQUIRY ON ON THE UTILITIES ISSUE.
SO IT'S REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE.
WHEN WE SUBDIVIDE A PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO CONNECT TO WATER AND SEWER.
IN THIS CASE, FROM THE ESTIMATES HE'S PROVIDED TO PROPERLY EXTEND THE SERVICES, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 2500 FEET OF SIX INCH PIPE, SIX OR SEVEN VALVES, FIVE OR SIX HYDRANTS JUST FOR
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WATER, AND THAT ESTIMATE AN ESTIMATE OF ROUGH COST.AND THAT WOULD BE ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THIS DEVELOPER.
THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME CONCERNS IN TERMS OF THE SEWER CONNECTION, SIMPLY BECAUSE ONE LIFT STATION FOR SIX HOUSES WOULD BE NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES, SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT.
SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME BASED ON WHAT STAFF HAS PROVIDED TO ME THAT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO EXTEND IT OUT JUST INTO THIS ONE LITTLE SECTION OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE ALSO WOULD REQUIRE A LOOP OF THE WATER SO WE WOULDN'T JUST DEAD END IT RIGHT THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS.
SO TO TO NANCY'S POINT, I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OTHER FACTORS THAT THE THE PERSON THAT'S INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE PURCHASING THIS WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER FOR THE COST TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THAT.
SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THAT SOME ADDITIONAL INFO FOR YOU.
OK, SO THE WATER HE COULD LITERALLY PUT THE WATER, IT'S JUST THE SEWER PART WOULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK EFFECTIVELY. A LIFT STATION FOR SIX HOMES IS NOT A GOOD EQUATION FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. THE WATER? YEAH, THEY'D HAVE TO CONNECT.
SO WE COULD. WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO BUILD HOMES ON WELL.
WELL, I'M GOOD WITH THE WATER ASPECT OF IT.
COUNCILMAN FELIX. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. OK, THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE IT, MAN. THANKS FOR GETTING BACK.
COUNCIL, I NEED A I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE CONTRACT FOR CITY OWNED SURPLUS REAL ESTATE, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 12:30 JACOBS STREET SOUTHEAST BY OUR FRED DANISH CONSTRUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FIVE DOLLARS BRING FORTH A RESOLUTION AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING SO I CAN. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YANAN, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
[12. Consideration of submitting a grant application to the Coastal Partnership Initiative for rehabilitation and replacement projects at Castaway Point Park.]
ITEM NUMBER 12. IT'S THE BILL THAT.GILBERT AND FIVE EIGHTY SIX OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THAT SOUNDS GREAT, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THE GRANT CAME FROM THE TAXPAYER'S POCKET BOOK. AN ADDITIONAL SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS COMES FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THAT'S A TOTAL OF ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
RIGHT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT WHEN WE START LOOKING FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION IS ALREADY GETTING $4 MILLION OUT OF MY GENERAL FUND BUDGET, ACCORDING TO.
THIS PRINTOUT I PUT THAT GETS $4 MILLION.
AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL AND THOUSAND OUT OF GENERAL FUND OR SIXTY THOUSAND ONE. IF WE GET THE GRANT.
I THINK THAT IT SHOULD COME OUT OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET INSTEAD OUT OF THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND BUDGET BECAUSE I COULD SEE THAT SAME FUNDING GOING TO PAY FOR A ROAD OR FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE INSTEAD OF SOMETHING FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
I THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS PART OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND BUDGET, SO THAT WOULD BE ALL KIND OF IN THE SAME BUCKET AS IT WERE.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE, AND IT ACTUALLY MOST GRANT OPPORTUNITIES REQUIRE YOU TO PUT IN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE OR BUILD A NEW PARK, FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS YOU TO WITH MATCHING FUNDS, REHABILITATE AND EXISTING SITES IN THIS CASE HAS TO BE ONE THAT'S NEAR A WATER BODY.
SO THAT'S WHY CASTAWAY POINT PARK WAS A GOOD FIT.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR THE CITY GENERAL FUND TO COVER THE COST TO IMPROVE THAT PARTICULAR PARK, WHICH IS A NEED OF SOME SIGNIFICANT RENOVATIONS.
YOU KNOW, REDOING THE THE DECKS AND THE PIERS PARKING LOT, THE BATHROOMS, MAKING THEM ACCESSIBLE AND UPGRADING THEM LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO FIND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RENOVATE AT, YOU KNOW, HALF THE COST OUT OF THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
YEAH. BECAUSE MY ONLY TWO QUESTIONS.
WELL, ONE IS THE QUESTION ONCE THE STATEMENT WAS PARKS AND FACILITIES NOT COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THE SCOPE OF WORK OR NOT DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY.
OH, TO DO IT IN HOUSE, YES, THIS ACTUALLY SAVES US A LOT OF MONEY ON ALL THE COSTS FOR THE. CERTAINLY, THIS COULD BE OUTSOURCED AND IT WOULD BE FAIRLY EXPENSIVE.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF CAPACITY TO, FOR EXAMPLE, COMPLETELY DO REDO THE THE BATHROOMS IN THE WAY THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE REDONE.
AND THIS DEFINITELY WILL BE A WAY TO COST SAVE ON THAT FOR US.
SO PARTS OF IT WE COULD DO IN HOUSE, BUT OTHER PARTS WE WOULD OUTSOURCE ANYWAY.
AND THEN THE OTHER PART I REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS.
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THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN FROM THE CUB SCOUTS, FROM BOY SCOUTS, AND THEY DID A LOT OF RENOVATIONS TO THE CASTAWAY POINT PART AND KEPT IT UP BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN PART OF IT, JUST MAINTENANCE AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S GOOD IN PLACE.SO I DON'T KNOW, WE SHOULD DOUBLE BACK WITH THAT.
I BELIEVE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PROJECT FOR HIS SCHOOL.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT MS.. BROWN MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PROJECT FOR A SCHOOL OR SOMETHING.
WAS THE EAGLE SCOUTS AND THEY MADE REPAIRS TO A STAIR, THE STAIRS GOING DOWN TO THE WATER AND LANDSCAPING.
IT WAS NOT THE SAME LOCATION THAT WE'RE TARGETING HERE FOR THIS.
WAS TO THE NORTH, SO NOT IN THE MAIN AREA OF CASTAWAY POINT PARK, BUT THE AREA TO THE NORTH OF WHERE THE FISHING AREA.
THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN YEAH, COUNCILMAN FOSTER YEAH, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. NO GUARANTEE, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE GRANT.
IT'S BEEN THAT THAT MATCHING FUND.
WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A GRANT AND IMPROVE OUR PARTS AT ANY ANY TIME, WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR SOMETHING AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS.
I'M ALL FOR IT, SO I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES.
PASS THIS ITEM. THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
I NEED A MOTION. LISTEN TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION TO A COASTAL PARTNERSHIP INITIATIVE AND THE AMOUNT OF 60000 FOR THE CASTAWAY POINT PARK REHABILITATION AND REPLACEMENT PROJECTS SO I CAN, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ADD IS THAT THESE GRANTS TYPICALLY DON'T COME.
AND SO I WANTED TO THANK MADAM SHERMAN FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT I'M CALLING TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
[15. Consideration of a request from JIC Palm Bay Apartments LLC for SHIP Program grant funds for its affordable housing project ($50,000).]
MR. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. NORMALLY MY GLASS IS HALF EMPTY ON THIS TOPIC, MY GLASS IS HALF FULL.WE'RE LOOKING AT FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS COMING FROM FOR THE SCHIP PROGRAM GRANT FOR FUNDS. WHEN I WENT BACK, I WAS READING THIS PACKET AND WE CAN GET AN APARTMENT FOR THE LOW INCOME INDIVIDUAL, A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT FOR THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE DOLLARS.
THAT'S A 10 PERCENT OF THIS TOTAL DEVELOPMENTS.
THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE CERTAIN AMOUNTS, BUT WHEN YOU CAN GET A PERSON WHO WITH LOW INCOME IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THAT CAN GET AN APARTMENT, THAT IS A GOOD THING, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE NO HARDLY MINIMAL LOW INCOME HOUSING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT WE CAN GET A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT FOR THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE DOLLARS.
OR YOU CAN GET A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT FOR THE LOW INCOME FOR THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR DOLLARS.
THIS IS A GOOD THING TO HELP SOME OF THE LOW INCOME RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FIFTY THOUSAND OUT OF A $12 MILLION PROJECT TO HELP LOW INCOME ON THIS CASE.
THIS TIME, I'M GIVEN A BRAVO ZULU TO THE MONEY SPENT INSTEAD OF NEGATIVE.
THE ADDITIONAL CARD, SIR ADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING.
ANOMALOUS, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN.
I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'D LIKE TO ECHO A MASTER CHIEF FOUR FOR PULLING THIS ITEM AND REALLY TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS IS I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I WAS SO EXCITED WHEN I'VE SEEN THIS ITEM.
WE CERTAINLY NEED TO TO ENCOURAGE MORE DEVELOPERS AS SUCH TO TO COME TO OUR CITY AND BUILD THOSE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT LOW INCOME.
I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE THAT TERM.
I WOULD RATHER USE A WORKING CLASS WORD, BUT WORKFORCE HOUSING? WELL, THAT'S GOOD, TOO. I'LL GO WITH THAT.
BUT BUT THE TRULY, YOU SEE THIS.
I MEAN, THIS PROJECT, I CAN'T WAIT.
I CAN'T HARDLY WAIT TO SEE THIS PROJECT BEING DEVELOPED AND AND ITS QUALITY.
IT'S THE SPACE AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS VERY, VERY EXCITING.
SO I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THAT COME TO OUR CITY.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX, DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON, WE GOOD COUNSEL, I NEED A MOTION ALSO TO APPROVE THE FUNDING REQUEST FROM JIC PALM BAY APARTMENTS LLC FOR MONETARY SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE AMOUNT OF $50000 FROM SHIP PROGRAM GRANT FUNDS FOR ITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
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ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN ON THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.[16. Consideration of appropriation of funds from Fund Balance for payment of Florida Department of Environmental Protection penalties and fees ($25,000).]
BRIAN OLSZEWSKI.AND EVEN COUNSEL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST OVER 16 IS A CONSIDERATION TO TRANSFER TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ORDER TO COVER PENALTIES AND FEES ASSESSED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
SO BASICALLY, AND THIS IS GOING TO TIE IN TO ITEM NUMBER 17, WHICH I WILL BE STANDING BEFORE YOU AND SPEAKING TO AS WELL.
WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE UNEXPECTEDLY INCURRING MORE FINES AND FEES FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
WHY? WHY OUT OF THE BLUE ARE WE IN NONCOMPLIANCE? AND AT THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT SOME VIOLATIONS THAT THE CITY'S HAD EARLIER IN THE YEAR, AND THEY WERE AT ROUGHLY $5000 A CLIP.
AND NOW SINCE SOMETIME IN THE SECOND QUARTER, THIS STARTED ADDING UP AND IT'S ALL THE WAY TO TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. THIS IS VERY CONCERNING NOW.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DID UNDERSTAND IT TO BE MAYBE A BUDGET MOVE FOR FINES AND PENALTIES THAT WE EXPECT TO GET, WHICH I DON'T LIKE THAT CONCEPT BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT THEORETICALLY, WE'RE PLANNING FOR FAILURE.
WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THINGS THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO COME FOR US FOR. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN THAT HAPPENS AND WE ARE ASSESSED A FINE OR A PENALTY AND WE DO DO A MANEUVER LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT ON ITEM NUMBER 17, WHERE WE TRADE UPGRADES INSTEAD OF THOSE FEES.
ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT OUT OF THIS TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR CHUNK OF CHANGE THAT WAS MEANT FOR FEES AND PENALTIES? OR ARE WE GOING TO ASK FOR FOR MORE FUNDING? SO THERE'S THERE'S A BIGGER PICTURE HERE AND I WOULD JUST LIKE IT SPOKEN TO.
OK. OH, ALL RIGHT, MR. NATHAN WHITE.
NATHAN WHITE, 13 01 SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I WOULD ECHO ECHO MR. OLSZEWSKI CONCERNS AND SEEK THE ANSWERS TO THE SAME QUESTIONS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IF THE WELL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SOME OF THESE VIOLATIONS ARE. MAYBE NOT ALL, IF IT'S OK, IF IT'S A LONG LIST, WHICH WOULD BE SAD, BUT THE WORDING IN THE AGENDA ITEM IS A LITTLE BIT VAGUE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THESE ARE JUST TYPES OF VIOLATIONS, OR IF THESE ARE VIOLATIONS OR TYPES OF VIOLATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN.
INFRINGED UPON, SO TO SPEAK, SO I WAS LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL ASK CHRIS LITTLE, ARE YOU TULLY'S DIRECTOR TO COME UP? THERE WAS A STATE LAW CHANGE NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT'S DRIVING ALL OF THIS, SO WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT.
GOOD EVENING. SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS WHY DID THEY START BECOMING MORE AGGRESSIVE ON IT? I THINK IT'S JUST THE ADMINISTRATION IN TALLAHASSEE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. THEY JUST IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD AN ISSUE, WE WORKED IT OUT WITH THEM, NO PENALTIES AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH STATEWIDE.
BUT NOW THEY'VE BECOME MORE AGGRESSIVE.
THIS FUNDING IS TO COVER FUTURE POTENTIAL PENALTIES THAT WE CANNOT OFFSET WITH PROJECTS.
THIS IS STRICTLY FOR PAYING PENALTIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES FOR DEPP.
IF THERE IS A PROJECT, WE WOULD COME BACK AND PULL FROM REQUEST TO PULL FROM FUND BALANCE UTILITY FUND BALANCE LIKE THE NEXT ITEM.
IT'S A FUND. ANY OF THOSE? SO A COUPLE OF THE PENALTIES THAT WE'VE ACCRUED HAVE TO DO WITH SOMEONE DISCHARGE A LOT OF GREASE INTO A MANHOLE, CLOG THE MANHOLE HIT OVERFLOWED ANOTHER ONE.
A CONTRACTOR, HIT ONE OF OUR FORCE MAINS ON PALM BAY ROAD DISCHARGE.
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHEN IT'S A THIRD PARTY THAT IS AT FAULT, WE COLLECT, WE INVOICE THEM AND COLLECT THAT MONEY.
ANOTHER AT OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THERE WAS A LARGE RAIN EVENT AND POWER REPEATEDLY KEPT TRIPPING WHILE IT WAS GOING.
IT WAS MORE LIKE A BROWNOUT, AND IT WAS OFF LONG ENOUGH TO TURN OUR GENERATORS ON AND IT KEPT GOING ON OFF, ON, OFF THE THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
AND THEN FINALLY, WHEN IT WENT OUT AND THEN CAME BACK ON, IT TRIPPED EVERYTHING AT THE PLANT AND WE HAD TREATED WASTEWATER.
SO THERE'S NO SOLIDS OR ANYTHING, AND IT WAS TREATED ABOUT TO GO DOWN THE INJECTION WELL.
IT OVERFLOWED THE SITE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS A SAMPLING DEADLINE THAT WAS MISSED.
HISTORICALLY, THE EPA WOULD NOTIFY MY WATER TREATMENT PLANT SUPERINTENDENT, SAY THIS IS COMING UP THIS YEAR.
THEY HAPPENED TO NOT DO IT OR WHEN IT WAS DUE.
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SO THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY ULTIMATELY TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT.THEY WERE JUST ACCUSTOMED TO THE EPA GIVEN THAT NOTIFICATION.
AND NOW WE HAVE A PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
TO ON THAT BROWNOUT MS. A LITTLE WHERE THE GENERATORS COULDN'T KICK WAS THAT LIKE THUNDERSTORM, IT WAS A HEAVY RAIN EVENT. I BELIEVE IT WAS THUNDERING AND THE POWER IT WAS JUST IT WAS GOING OUT REAL QUICK, BUT THEN COMING RIGHT BACK ON.
EVENTUALLY, WE HAVE SURGERY CENTERS ON OUR EQUIPMENT.
IT BURNT OUT SOME OF OUR SURGERY.
WE HAD A UPS CONNECTED TO ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
SO IT KEPT GOING ON AND OFF A FEW TIMES.
AND THEN FINALLY, EVERYTHING TRIPPED AND THE OPERATOR ON DUTY.
SO WE HAVE ONE OPERATOR ON STAFF AND HE'S GOING ONE BY ONE, PRETTY MUCH FROM THE DIRTIEST WATER TO THE CLEANEST GOING AND RESETTING ALL THE EQUIPMENT.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER. WHAT WAS THE TOTAL? MOUNT, THAT WE HAD TO PAY IMPUNITY TO THE EPA, SO SO FAR IT'S APPROXIMATELY $16000 IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN FINED.
WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO PAY THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS FOR THE MS. SAMPLING AND THEN TWO HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS PER OCCURRENCE FOR THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.
EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE USED TO.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THEM DIRECTLY.
WE'RE GOING TO OFFSET WITH A PROJECT THAT THEY APPROVE, THAT THEY HAVE TO APPROVE THE IMPROVEMENT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THE PENALTY.
SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS, HAS THE STATE RAISED A PENALTY? THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PENALTIES THAT HAVE INCREASED SPECIFICALLY TO INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, BUT THEY HAVE HAD A PENALTY SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND HAVE WE VIOLATED ANYTHING IN THE CITY THAT'S A REFERENCE TO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON OR TURKEY CREEK. SO THE OVERFLOW AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT'S ADJACENT TO CANAL THAT ENTERS THE TURKEY CREEK, SO IT WOULD HAVE IN OR THE TURKEY CREEK, THE TREATED WASTEWATER THAT WAS DISCHARGED OVER SIXTEEN THOUSAND.
IF WE HAD THIS TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND THAT WE ASKED HIM FOR, WE STILL WIND UP WITH WHAT 9000 LEFT OVER.
NO. SO THAT'S TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND IS FOR FUTURE OCCURRENCES.
IN THE PAST, IT WAS ONLY 16 OF THE FOUR FOR THE ONES THAT WE HAVE SO FAR.
THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL NEED A MOTION.
CONSIDERATION FOR APPROPRIATE FUNDS ON BALANCE OF A PAYMENT.
OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, PENALTIES AND FEES FOR $25000.
SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSED THIS UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER 17, RIGHT, OLSZEWSKI.
[17. Consideration of appropriation of funds from Fund Balance for the Lift Station Telemetry Solar Panel Project ($6,000).]
HMM. YOU CAN COUNSEL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST, WE'RE GOING TO PAINT A PICTURE HERE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A STINKY PICTURE.SO WITH THE VIOLATION THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IN NUMBER 17, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED THAT HAPPENED DURING THE THUNDERSTORMS, THE THE TOTAL THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS ASKING FOR IS FIFTY TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS.
BUT THEY SAID THAT WE CAN TAKE FIVE THOUSAND OF THAT OUT.
JUST PAY OUR ADMINISTRATIVE FEE IF YOU FIX THREE LIFT STATIONS AND THE COST FOR SUCH IS $6000. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NET TOTAL SPEND OF SIXTY TO FIFTY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A THOUSAND MORE, BUT IT'S GOING TO SAVE US FROM SPENDING FIVE THOUSAND ON A FEE AND ACTUALLY PUT THAT THOUSAND TOWARDS SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE.
ONE THING THAT I'M GETTING A LITTLE HUNG UP ON IS WHEN WE NEEDED TO DO THIS LAST, WHICH WAS THE OCCURRENCE.
AND I THINK IT WAS APRIL WHEN THE TELECOM COMPANY HIT THE MAIN OVER ON PALM BAY ROAD.
THE SOLUTION WAS TO DO SEVEN LIFT STATIONS AT THAT TIME FOR TWENTY THOUSAND.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TACK THESE THREE ONTO THAT PROJECT AND CREATE A TOTAL OF 10 LIFT STATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIX UP INSTEAD OF PAYING FINES AND FEES FOR TWENTY SIX THOUSAND TOTAL. WELL, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO SEVEN FOR TWENTY THOUSAND, THEN OK, AND NOW WE'RE ABLE TO DO THREE FOR SIX THOUSAND.
THIS NEW COST THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS TWO PER.
SO WHY CAN'T I GET 10 DONE FOR TWENTY THOUSAND? THAT'S THE STRING THAT I'M REALLY CURIOUS OF.
SO NOW THE PROJECT HAS EXPANDED, BUT IT'S ONLY EXPANDED BY THIS THE SMALLER INCREMENT, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSE TO THREE THOUSAND PER THAT THAT
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WAS SPENT ON THE LAST PROJECT.I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THREE LIFT STATIONS WERE CHOOSING TO UPGRADE, AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME. YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE OVER ONE HUNDRED LIVE STATIONS THAT COULD BE UPGRADED.
I SUPPOSE THERE'S NO URGENCY ON OUR PART TO UPGRADE THEM BECAUSE EVERY TIME THAT WE HAVE A MISHAP AND WE GET A FINE, WE'RE GOING TO GET OFF TO UPGRADE A FEW.
SO IT'S KIND OF A SYSTEM THAT'S CREATING A LACK OF URGENCY TO GET THIS DONE WHEN REALLY UPGRADING THESE SYSTEMS IS IMPORTANT.
AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT AND ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES SHOULD LOOK AT THAT, BUT I SUPPOSE I SHOULD TAKE THAT UP WITH TALLAHASSEE.
WHAT I CAN'T COMPREHEND IS THAT WITHIN THIS FIVE THOUSAND ASSESSMENT, IT WAS ACTUALLY A FOUR THOUSAND FINE AND THEN IT WAS EXPONENTIALLY SIZED, IF YOU WILL, AN ADDITIONAL TWENTY FIVE PERCENT BECAUSE WE HAD THE INCIDENTS IN SPRING AND WE'RE NOW CALLED REPEAT OFFENDERS. SO ARE WE GOING TO RECOUP THAT EXTRA THOUSAND THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SPEND IF WE WEREN'T A REPEAT OFFENDER FROM THE TELECOM COMPANY THAT CAUSED THIS ISSUE WHEN THEY HIT THE MAIN ON PALM BAY ROAD? YOU KNOW, HOW FAR DOES IT GO AT THE END OF THE DAY? THIS IS A REALLY WEIRD SITUATION.
I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF SETTING ASIDE MONEY WITH THE INTENT TO SPEND IT ON FEES THAT ARE ASSESSED BY CREATING VIOLATIONS TO ENVIRONMENTAL CODES.
WHEN EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT IS PRESERVING THAT TURKEY CREEK AND THAT INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, RIGHT? SO ANYWAYS, I SAID A LOT THERE.
I'M HOPING THAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ENTERTAINING ME. THANK YOU.
MADAM SHERMAN MS., CHRIS, TO TALK THROUGH THAT AGAIN.
SO THE FIRST ONE WAS AN ESTIMATE AND INCLUDED SOME DESIGN TO CONFIGURE THIS TELEMETRY, THIS BATTERY BACKUP.
THE SECOND WAS THE ACTUAL COST.
WE DETERMINE TO FABRICATE THEM AND PUT THEM OUT AS $2000 AS IN TERMS OF COLLECTING THE THE ESCALATION FACTOR FROM THE OFFENDERS OF THE PAST.
WE'VE HAD SOME THAT WERE OUR ISSUE, SOME THAT ARE CONTRACTORS ISSUE.
SO IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO TRY TO.
WE CAN TRY TO ASSIGN PERCENTAGES AND SAY, YOU PAY THIS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING THING THROUGHOUT TIME.
I CAN EXPLORE THAT MORE WITH CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO SEE IF WE WANT TO TRY TO PURSUE THAT. HAPPY ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ERECT A LITTLE PIECE LIFT STATIONS, THE ONE WE HAVE IN THIS ITEM.
WHAT WAS THE AGE OF THEM? IN BADLY NEED OF IMPROVEMENT OR UPGRADING.
SO THE THE THREE EVENT WE HAVE NOT CHOSEN YET.
WE'RE JUST TRYING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE APPROVAL BEFORE WE PROCEED.
TYPICALLY, THE LIFT STATIONS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ARE ORIGINAL TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, 40 50 YEARS OLD TO 20, 30 YEARS OLD.
AND IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS THE THE OLDEST LIVE STATIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE OVERFLOWS AND THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO WATER BODIES. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT, AND IT HAS A SOLO COMPONENT TO IT.
YES. WHY? WHY THIS TOTAL COMPONENT, THE SOLAR COMPONENT? BECAUSE IN A IN AN EVENT, IF WE LOSE POWER AND THESE THESE LIVE STATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE BACKUP POWER.
AND IF IT'S A RAIN EVENT OR A HURRICANE OR SOMETHING, IF THERE IS A SOLAR POWER THAT'S CHARGING, THESE BATTERIES WILL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THOSE STATIONS FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REACT TO YES AND STOP ANY FURTHER DAMAGE.
MOTION TO APPROVE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE LIFESTATION ELEMENTARY SOLAR PANEL PROJECT AMOUNT SIX THOUSAND.
SO IT'S. AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES, MAYOR. JUST REAL QUICK.
GREAT POINTS WERE BROUGHT ACROSS AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
THE SAME WAY WE HAVE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THEY HAVE TO STAY INVOLVED IN STATE GOVERNMENT AS WELL.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE OUR STATE LOBBYISTS PREVIOUSLY HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR US ON AND HOPEFULLY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
OUR FEDERAL, OUR NEW FEDERAL LOBBYISTS WILL BE FIGHTING REGARDS TO HOME RULE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS BASICALLY AN OVERREACH OF BECAUSE ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN.
AND REGARDING THINGS FROM CONTRACTORS, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO PAY US.
SO I DEFINITELY WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE TO STAY IN TUNE.
I APPRECIATE YOU, MR. OLSZEWSKI, BECAUSE YOU'RE ON IT.
AND THAT'S ALL AND PART OF THAT.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON IS THE MANDATE HOOKING UP THE SEWER TO PROTECT THE LAGOON.
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SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THAT EQUATION.AND THE PENALTIES THAT MAY BE COMING FORTH.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE ON NUMBER 19, MR.
[19. Consideration of a scope of work for the St. Johns Heritage Parkway forensic audit.]
GILBERT. BILL BURTON, FIVE EIGHTY SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO COVER THE ST.JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, BUT I'LL DO THE BEST, DO MY BEST, MY DOCUMENTATION THAT I'VE HAD FROM WHEN I'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC.
I'M GOING BACK TO 2008, AUGUST OF 2008.
THIS WAS THE INTERCHANGE MODIFICATION REPORT FROM THE ST.
ALL RIGHT. WATERSTONES HOLDINGS WILL FUND ALL REQUIRED PHASES OF THE PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, PG&E, STUDY DESIGN, RIGHT OF WAY AND CONSTRUCTION, THE SEGMENT OF PARKWAY FROM THE INTERCHANGE TO MICO ROAD AND THE SEGMENT OF PARKWAY FROM THE INTERCHANGE TO BABCOCK ROAD WILL BE FUNDED BY WATER STONE HOLDINGS.
THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM THAT WAS FROM THE INTERCHANGE MODIFICATION REPORT.
WHEN I ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, I I ASKED WHO WAS GOING TO END UP PAYING FOR THAT ROAD RIGHT HERE WAS THE RESPONSE I GOT BACK.
MR. BATTEN, HOW THAT WORKS IS THE DEVELOPERS WILL ACTUALLY BUILD THE ROADS AND THEN THEY WILL RECEIVE IMPACT FEE CREDITS SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY.
SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO INSTALL.
BOLDFACE LIE TO MY FACE IN THESE CHAMBERS ONE MORE TIME.
FIVE-YEAR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE AT THAT SAME TIME FRAME, THIS WAS 20 15 FUNDING SOURCE FOR PARKWAY, FOR BACK FOR BABCOCK, NINETY FIVE AND MICO NINETY FIVE.
IT'S LISTED AS IMPACT FEES, GRANTS AND DEVELOPER NOTHING FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
YET THE ROAD WAS BUILT OFF THE BACKS OF THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.
WE ARE NOW CONSIDERING CONSIDERATION OF A SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY FORENSIC STUDY.
THE AUDIT? TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.
IF YOU WERE TO LISTEN TO ME PAID ATTENTION IN TWO THOUSAND EIGHT, WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION. WE WOULD HAVE HELD THE DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
WE WOULD NOT BE AT THIS AUDIT THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR TWICE NOW.
NOW THE QUESTION IS IF WE SPEND THE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
ARE YOU LOOKING FOR RETRIBUTION OR IS IT ONE MORE TIME? WE'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE DID OUR REPORT, WE DID A STUDY.
SO WHAT'S THE OVERALL OBJECTIVE YOU EXPECT TO SEE OUT OF SPENDING TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS? IF YOU WOULD HAVE JUST LISTEN TO ME, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE HAD BEEN CAUGHT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MADAM SHERMAN, I KNOW THAT HE MENTIONED SEVERAL DATES WAY BACK IN THE DAY, BACK IN, YOU KNOW, THE EARLY EARLY OF 2000 15.
DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THAT? EARLY, KEN. YEAH, SO ESSENTIALLY JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND TO THOSE WHO MIGHT BE IN THE AUDIENCE, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.
THE JHALAK AUDIT THAT WAS DONE EARLIER IN, WE GOT THE RESULTS IN LATE 2019.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE JHALAK AUDIT WAS SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT, AND IT WAS RELATED TO CONCERNS THAT THE CITY DID NOT PROPERLY DOCUMENT EFFORTS TO SECURE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DEVELOPERS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES FOR THE THE 95 INTERCHANGE AND ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY CONNECTOR ROAD PROJECT.
AND ALSO, THE COMMON IN THE AUDIT REPORT FROM 2019 WAS THAT THE CITY PERSONNEL AT THE TIME DID NOT PROVIDE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE INFORMATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING FUNDING NEEDS FOR THE PROJECT.
SO IT'S SORT OF FAST FORWARD TO MR. BATTENS POINT. IT IS TRUE THE RECORD AS FAR BACK AS WE CAN FIND IT, PRE 20 15 TIME FRAME DOES REFLECT THAT CITY STAFF AND DEVELOPERS HAD EVERY INTENTION OF THE DEVELOPERS BUILDING THE ROAD AND RECEIVING IMPACT FEE CREDITS.
THAT'S DEFINITELY IN THE RECORD.
WHAT STAFF AND THE AUDITORS, CURRENT STAFF AND THE AUDITORS AT THE TIME HAVE BEEN UNABLE
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TO, I GUESS, IDENTIFY OR UNCOVER IS WHAT THE SHIFT WAS THAT SEEMED TO HAVE HAPPENED STARTING SOMEWHERE IN TWENTY FIFTEEN WHERE THERE WAS, IT APPEARS, A STAFF LEVEL DECISION OF SOME SORT TO BUILD A ROAD ON THE CITY'S DIME, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE DRAFTS RIGHT OF WAY IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS AT THAT TIME OR DRAFT IT UP.SO I GUESS THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS THAT THERE IS THAT OUTSTANDING QUESTION THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED. WE HAVE ASKED INTERNALLY AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN RESPONSE TO THE JHALAK AUDIT WAS TO PROPOSE THE CITY DOING A FORENSIC AUDIT TO ATTEMPT TO POTENTIALLY UNCOVER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WHETHER THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE ACCOMPLISHED IN THIS AUDIT. WE DO NOT KNOW WITH CERTAINTY BECAUSE THE QUESTION OF WHY DECISIONS WERE MADE NOT ONLY BY STAFF LITTLETON, ULTIMATELY BY CITY COUNCIL BACK THEN, THOSE MAY BE QUESTIONS THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN'T ANSWER.
SO THAT'S JUST SORT OF A QUICK, HIGH LEVEL, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE OR. COUNCILMAN.
I'LL START. MAYOR FORD, CAN I START AT THAT END AND COME THIS WAY? DEPUTY MAYOR BOARD COUNCILMAN FELIX SURE.
I'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAN NORMAL ON THIS ONE.
OR ONE OF OUR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY IS SITTING ON THIS DIET IS TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.
SO HERE WE ARE, POTENTIALLY GOING TO SPEND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OF YOUR MONEY AND OURS AS WELL FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO RESULT IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE US ANYWHERE.
IT USED TO BE AT SOME POINT IT USED TO BE A ROAD TO NOWHERE.
SOME OF US REMEMBER THAT THAT THAT PARKWAY INTERCHANGE, BUT THIS IS AN ORDER TO NOWHERE AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S THAT'S HARD.
IT'S CLEAR WE HAD AMPLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM.
HERE WE ARE. THE TAXPAYER ALREADY CARRY THE BURDEN OF PAYING FOR THAT, THAT THAT PIECE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT ROAD.
HERE WE ARE THROWING MORE MONEY THAT POTENTIALLY IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING. THERE'S NO LEGAL RECOURSE.
ONCE THAT AUDIT IS DONE, WE CAN'T DO NOTHING WITH IT.
AND HOPEFULLY, I MISS SMITH CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
AND SECONDLY, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GAIN ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING.
AND BUT BUT WE ARE THROWING MORE MONEY AT IT.
SO TO ME, FOR US TO SAY, LET JUST THAT, THAT WILL BRING CLOSURE.
TO THIS PAGE OF THE CITY HISTORY, ALL CLOSURE WAS CONDUCTED BY THE FDLE AND FBI, WHERE SOME OF THE BAD PLAYERS, SOME OF THE SAME FOLKS STAFF.
LET'S. AN NFL STAFF ALREADY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS.
HOPEFULLY, COUNCIL WOULD AGREE TO LET JUST PUT THAT ASIDE AND MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED WE CAN DO A LOT WITH TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.
MY OPINION, WE DON'T NEED TO THROW MORE MONEY AT THIS.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT.
LOZIER, WE GOT ALL CLOSURE, THE AFFIDAVIT FROM THE FBI AND THE FDLE.
THAT IF IF YOU WANT TO READ GET THE HISTORY, WE GOT ALL CLOSURE, IT'S CLEAR.
WHAT THE JAIL I DID TELLING US THAT WHAT WE WEREN'T DOING RIGHT.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN RESPOND TO THAT ORDER, IT'S NOT GOING TO DO IT TO ME.
IT JUST BASICALLY TELL US WE DID A POOR JOB.
DOCUMENTING. WE DID A POOR JOB.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND THEN ALL STAFF CURRENT STUFF WE'RE ALL SO PROUD OF.
I KNOW THEY'RE DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB.
AND I'D SAY, LET'S LEAVE IT LIKE THAT.
LET'S NOT PUT ANOTHER DIME TO THIS DEAD, YOU KNOW, AUDIT TO KNOW WHERE.
AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
YEAH, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX IN HIS STATEMENT.
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OF YOUR MONEY THAT COULD BE USED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, WE HAVE AN AUDIT TO TELL US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW THE CITY SCREWED UP AND THE DEVELOPERS SCREWED US OUT OF BUILDING THE ROAD JUST MR. BILL BATTEN. UM, HE WAS CORRECT.
BUT THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T DO THAT, MR BATTEN.
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IT WASN'T SITTING UP HERE, IT WAS PRIOR COUNCIL, PRIOR STAFF.WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T MAKE THE WRONG OR RIGHT WITH THIS FORENSIC AUDIT ORDERED TO ME, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO TELL US HOW MUCH WE SCREWED UP, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH $250000 KNOWING. THAT WE MESSED UP THE CITY OF PALM BAY, MESSED IT UP, AND I SAID THE CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL, EVERYBODY TAKE THE BLAME ON THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE A PARKWAY.
WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND NOT MAKE THIS MISTAKE AGAIN.
AND. I'M GOING TO I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD SPEAK FOR MY COUNSEL, BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE MISTAKES LIKE THAT SITTING UP HERE.
COMMUNICATION IS VERY IMPORTANT IN LIKE POINTING THAT OUT.
SO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SPENDING YOUR TAX DOLLARS ON THIS ARTICLE.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. UM, Y'ALL ARE BEING NICER ABOUT IT THAN I'M GOING TO BE BILLS BEING NICE ABOUT IT AS WELL.
WHAT THIS IS? FIRST OFF, THE JHALAK AUDIT SAID THERE WASN'T PROPER DOCUMENTATION, THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY DOCUMENTATION.
SO MY CONCERN IS WHAT DOCUMENTATION WILL BE FOUNDED ON TOP OF WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX SAID.
WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.
WE WERE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS WAS WITH MRS. SMITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE OUTCOME? WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? AND THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO FROM WHAT I'M I HAVE TO SPEAK AFTER.
BUT WHAT THIS WAS IS PEOPLE TALKING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, PREVIOUS STAFF HANDSHAKE DEALS.
WE GOT THIS. I'M TELLING YOU IT WASN'T THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE, IT WAS STAFF.
AND I DON'T MIND SAYING NAMES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S NARDI, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHERS.
STU BUCHANAN, I'M NOT SCARED TO SAY NAMES.
THERE WASN'T ANYBODY UP HERE OVER HERE.
PREVIOUS, CITY ATTORNEY, I DON'T CARE, I'M GONNA SAY NAMES, BUT IT WASN'T THIS, IT WASN'T HERE, AND THEY DID THINGS THE WAY THEY WANTED TO DO IT.
SO JUST I'M JUST GOING TO BE REAL ABOUT IT.
BUT. I DON'T SEE GOING DOWN THIS ROUTE BEING THE WAY TO JUMP TO RIGHT THE WRONG SINCE IT WAS LACK OF PROPER DOCUMENTATION, I THINK SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S POLICY, IT'S NOT JUST POLICIES EITHER, BECAUSE SOMETIMES POLICIES CAN'T ALWAYS SOLVE THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO ETHICS AS WELL AND HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE.
SO BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THINGS LIKE WHISTLEBLOWER ORDINANCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO PEOPLE CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING WRONG IN THEIR CITY.
AND WE ALREADY ARE SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M ENCOURAGED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING THE WHISTLEBLOWER ORDINANCE AND OTHER THINGS. SO I THINK IT'S MOSTLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND I TALK TO OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT IT, WHETHER WE HAVE ANNUAL AUDITS IN REGARDS TO MAKING SURE PROPER DOCUMENTATION AND PROPER FUNDING IS IN PLACE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
WHAT WOULD THAT ONE? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AND TO IF MRS. SMITH CAN ELABORATE ON WHAT I WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT, AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN FELIX? SO IN TERMS OF ANNUAL AUDITS, THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES WE ALREADY DO AN ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDIT. ONE THING THAT WE HAVE DEFINITELY CHANGED IN OUR PROCESS IS FROM THE PRIOR PROCESSES ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GOING TO RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. WE WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND HER STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INCLUDED THERE AT THE TABLE.
AND SO WE HAVE KIND OF A DOUBLE CHECK MECHANISM ALREADY BUILT INTO THE PROCESS SO THAT THERE'S NO NO DISCUSSIONS THAT LEAD TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD NOT FOLLOW THE ORDINANCES REGARDING AN AUDIT.
I MEAN, THERE'S BEYOND THE FINANCIAL AUDIT, THERE'S CERTAINLY A PROCESS WE STARTED ACTUALLY THIS SUMMER FOR THE FIRST TIME WHERE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE AND ESSENTIALLY LIKE AN OPERATIONAL AUDITOR.
SO YOU CAN HAVE THEM LOOK AT SPECIFIC PROCESSES AND ASPECTS OF YOUR OVERALL OPERATIONS IN THE CITY AND HAVE THEM COME IN AND GIVE US AN OBJECTIVE REVIEW OF AREAS WHERE THERE'S POTENTIAL THAT FRAUD COULD OCCUR OR PEOPLE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CITY BECAUSE OUR PROCESSES ARE NOT AS STRONG AND AS TIGHT AS THEY SHOULD BE.
SO AT A STAFF LEVEL, WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED THAT AND YOU'LL BE GETTING A PRESENTATION FROM THAT AUDITOR ACTUALLY AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HOPE TO REPLICATE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
WE HAVEN'T FUNDED IT YET FOR NEXT FISCAL OR THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT CERTAINLY ON OUR LIST OF THINGS TO DO. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, SIR.
MRS. SMITH. AS THIS ISSUE CAME UP AFTER DAYLIGHT REPORT, CERTAINLY WHEN WE WENT TO TALLAHASSEE AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT EVEN IN A WORKSHOP AS FAR AS THE ISSUE OR AT ONE TIME, THERE WAS CERTAINLY PROMISES MADE AND REPRESENTATIONS THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS GOING
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TO PAY FOR THE ROAD, HOW WE ENDED UP CHANGING.OF COURSE, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN IT, BUT I DID DO EVERYTHING THAT I COULD TO AS LONG AS WELL AS THE HOUR PRIOR CITY MANAGER TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND ALSO TO ADDRESS ANY TYPE OF BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD WE NEEDED TO SUE.
OK, SO WHAT'S GOING TO BE OUR LEGAL THEORY? AND FROM WHAT I COULD DETERMINE, THE DEVELOPER, THE CITY AND OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL WAS WORKING ON AN AGREEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO ESSENTIALLY BUILD A ROAD.
THE DEVELOPER WAS ALSO IT HIRED A FIRM TO DESIGN.
AND ACTUALLY, I THINK WE ENDED UP TAKING OVER THAT DESIGN THAT DEVELOPER WAS WORKING ON.
THERE WAS NO BREACH OF CONTRACT BECAUSE THERE NEVER WAS A CONTRACT.
THERE WAS KIND OF NO NOTHING WHERE I COULD SEE WHERE SOMEBODY BREACHED A PROMISE.
IT SEEMED AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AT LEAST FROM THE CONVERSATION WITH OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
THAT SHE WAS INSTRUCTED THE CITY IS GOING A DIFFERENT WAY.
IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT THERE WAS ANY FRAUD BECAUSE AT THE SAME POINT IN TIME, THE ITEM CAME TO COUNCIL NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO WITH THE DEVELOPER, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE ROAD AND WE'RE GOING TO GET GRANT FUNDS AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE PAID FOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO GRANT FUNDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE EVER APPLIED.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WHERE AS FAR AS A LEGAL REMEDY, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUE ANYONE FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT OR FOR FRAUD.
IT WAS OUT IN THE OPEN THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO GO THIS WAY.
SO THERE CERTAINLY MAY BE INTERNAL THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON AND THE PROCESSES, AND I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY TRIED TO INCREASE UPON THEM.
BUT AS FAR AS HAVING A CAUSE OF ACTION, I LOOKED AT IT.
I HAD MY STAFF LOOK AT IT AND I EVEN LOOKED AT IT WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE ADAMANT, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE A CAUSE OF ACTION.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, ARE YOU DONE? THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, MISS SMITH.
OK, SO AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I'M I'M OUT.
I'M OUTNUMBERED ON THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW.
I BELIEVE IN IN THIS STEP, I BELIEVE IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS STEP.
THIS WAS APPROVED IN THE PAST, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT HAVING FRESH EYES AND TAKING WHAT WAS THE COST OF RESTORING THE PUBLIC TRUST IN OUR COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF IT.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN SHOW WHERE THE PITFALLS MAY LIE THAT WE DIDN'T UNCOVER ANYTHING ELSE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M IN THE MINORITY NOW.
DID YOU MENTION TO ME COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THAT THERE WAS SOME ANOTHER CARD THAT HAD TO BE SPOKE THAT WAS GOING TO BE A SPEAKER? OK? MR. NATHAN WHITE, OK.
I WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MR. MAYOR NATHAN WHITE, 13, AND ONE, SEABURY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
AND. I WAS GOING TO START THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE OPTIMISTICALLY REALIZE I WAS AHEAD OF MYSELF. I WAS GOING TO SAY I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THIS FINALLY COMING UP.
IT'S GOING TO SAY IT WAS ABOUT TIME.
I'VE BEEN WAITING QUITE SOME TIME TO GET SOME MORE ANSWERS REGARDING WHAT HAPPENED WITH ST. JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WENT TOWARDS IT, INCLUDING OVER $9 MILLION IN DEBT.
BUT NOW I SEE THAT I HAVE TO ACTUALLY MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ARGUMENT HERE.
SO I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THAT I KNOW THAT I SPEAK FOR MANY.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY WHEN I SAY THAT THIS IS NOT.
INSIGNIFICANT. THIS IS NOT FUTILE.
HAS BEEN LAUGHED AT FOR YEARS AND ARE WITH OUR HIGHWAY TO NOWHERE.
AND THE DEALS THAT WENT ON BEHIND BACK DOORS AS THEY WERE MENTIONED.
WE WANT MORE ANSWERS THAN WE'VE GOTTEN.
THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS FORENSIC AUDIT STATES HERE, SPECIFICALLY THE CITY WANTS TO IDENTIFY THROUGH THE AUDIT HOW THE PRIMARY REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE PROJECT CHANGED FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2013 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR TWENTY EIGHTEEN AFTER THE CITY INDICATED PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS HAD BEEN SECURED.
IT GOES ON. THE CITY BORROWED $9 MILLION FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN. I DIDN'T EXPECT TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS MAKE THIS ARGUMENT, SO I'M A LITTLE SCATTERED. BUT. SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST IT.
I STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRETY OF CITY STAFF, NOR EVEN THE ENTIRETY OF THIS
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COUNCIL IS NEW SINCE TWENTY EIGHTEEN.AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS, WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THOSE ANSWERS, WE SHOULD.
SO I WOULD SIMPLY END WITH TWO THINGS ONE STATEMENT.
ONE QUESTION. ONE IS THAT A STATEMENT? I DO UNDERSTAND THAT QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT A INSIGNIFICANT FIGURE.
I MEAN, YOU COULD HOLD JUST OVER A WHOLE SPECIAL ELECTION WITHOUT MUCH MONEY.
BUT I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE QUESTION WHAT CHANGED? BETWEEN THE APPROVAL OF THE MONEY FOR THIS AUDIT, WHICH WASN'T MISTAKEN, 20 20 WAS THE SAME COUNCIL WE HAVE HERE.
WHAT CHANGED YOUR VOTES FOR BEING FOR THIS TO BEING AGAINST THIS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, GENTLEMEN, IT IS ABOUT RESTORING THE PUBLIC TRUST IN THIS COMMUNITY. IT IS ABOUT OUR REPUTATION AND YOU ALL BRING UP LEGITIMATE ARGUMENTS.
HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO REALLY TURN THE PAGE IN ORDER TO TRULY UNDERSTAND ALL THE PITFALLS AND HAVING DIFFERENT EYES, LOOK AT THIS AND IT'S LIKE CHECKS AND BALANCES.
THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
WE DID APPROVE THIS IN THE PAST, AND SO THIS IS THE FINAL STEP, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS.
SO I'M NOT I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH DENYING THIS REQUEST.
I BELIEVE WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IT WILL BE WORTH US TURNING THE PAGE, STARTING A NEW LEAGUE. AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? OK. OR IF I MAY.
SURE. COUNCILMAN FELIX, FOR THE RECORD, MY POSITION HAS NOT CHANGED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
THIS THING IS CLEARLY SAID OPERATIONAL AND I BELIEVE.
WE WE HAVE NEW NEW COUNSEL, WE HAVE A NEW NEW PRETTY MUCH FOR THE MOST PART, ALL THE MAJOR PLAYERS ARE NO LONGER WITH THE CITY THAT LEADERSHIP.
NOT A RESPONSIBLE THAT'S SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
SO WE THE PAGE HAS BEEN TURNED.
IF THE PUBLIC WANT TO KNOW IF FOR IF, FOR FORECLOSURE, SICK.
THE FBI AND THE FDLE, THE GREAT AND GREAT DETAILS, WHAT WENT ON.
IT'S ALL TAXPAYERS, OUR TAXPAYER DOLLAR, WE SHOULD NOT.
WHY, WHY PUT IT JUST MAKES, IN MY OPINION.
I CAN SEE THE HOW ARE WE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS? IT JUST IT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT, LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? OK, WE HAVE THE CONSIDERATION.
SO IF THERE'S NO MOTION, IT FAILS, RIGHT, MADAM? MADAM SMITH. YOU YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR YOU COULD DENY ALSO.
BUT I WOULD STILL MAKE THE MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER MOTION TO DENY.
JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY FORENSIC AUDIT.
I CAN I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY OR BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? I STILL WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT US CONTINUING THE ARTISTS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH. AND GENTLEMEN, I REALLY.
DISAGREE WITH THE WAY THE COUNCIL IS MOVING FORWARD IN THIS, I REALLY WANTED TO TO ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE AS MOSTLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I BELIEVE IN TURNING THE PAGE AND AND BUT I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
[21. Consideration of an increase in the annual salary for the Utilities Director.]
THE DENIAL PASSES THREE TO ONE.MR. BILL BRATTON, FOLLOWED BY NATHAN WHITE, NO, I'M BAD, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG WAY.
RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, FOLLOWED BY NATHAN WHITE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT, BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST, SO THERE'S A LOT HERE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A SALARY INCREASE OF TEN
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THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN TO ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE.BUT WITH THAT, IT'S GOING TO PUT THE THE EMPLOYEE IN QUESTION HERE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY MAX OUT THEIR PAY RANGE.
AND WHAT WAS EMPHASIZED IN THE IN THE MEMORANDUM AND THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS IS THE FACT THAT THE PAY RANGE MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE SUITABLE FOR THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE WORK WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN WE LOOK AT AND WE TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE RIGHT SALARY GRADE IS FOR THIS POSITION IN A CITY OR MUNICIPALITY.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE COMPARATOR CITIES, WHAT PERCENTAGE AND HOW BIG IS THE UTILITY STRUCTURE WITHIN THE LANDMASS OF THOSE CITIES? BECAUSE PALM BAY IS THE LARGEST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY BY LAND MASS BY POPULATION, WE KNOW THIS. IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN CENTRAL FLORIDA, BUT ITS STRETCH OF UTILITIES IS WOEFULLY SMALL, SO OUR NETWORK ISN'T AS BIG AS ORLANDO'S NETWORK MAY BE.
I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT OUR NETWORK IS BIG.
AS THE NETWORK THAT BREVARD COUNTY MAINTAINS, THEY'RE GOING ALL THE WAY NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO ARE THOSE COMPARATORS REAL? AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO MAX OUT THE SALARY GRADE ANYWAY.
SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY WE STARTED CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, IF THE SALARY RANGE IS GOOD OR NOT. BUT IF YOU DO MAX IT OUT, WHERE DOES THAT PUT THIS INDIVIDUAL COME NEXT YEAR? COME COME. COST OF LIVING OR WHAT HAVE YOU INCREASES NEXT YEAR? BECAUSE WE SPOKE, I THINK THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT'S BEEN MAXED OUT IN HIS SALARY RANGE FOR YEARS.
AND SO HE CAN'T EVEN GET A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT.
SO IT ISN'T THE REAL QUESTION HERE WHETHER THIS INDIVIDUAL NEEDS THEIR SALARY RANGE ADJUSTED AS OPPOSED TO DO THEY RIGHT NOW NEED AN EIGHT PERCENT INCREASE TO GET TO THE TOP OF THAT SALARY RANGE.
IN ADDITION, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST THINK THAT THE TIMELINESS OF IT IS REALLY, REALLY TOUGH, AND I NOTICED THAT THE BUILDING OPERATIONS ONE WAS POLLED AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS. MAYBE IT WAS JUST THE LACK OF PREPARATION OR INFORMATION OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT THIS ONE'S TOUGH BECAUSE WE JUST HAD TWO OR THREE AGENDA ITEMS SPECIFICALLY ON THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED DIFFERENT VARIOUS FUNDING TO MAKE UP FOR. AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY INCOMPETENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT BY ANY MEANS.
BUT BUT DEFICIENCIES IN THE DEPARTMENT, THINGS THAT WENT WRONG, THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
SO THERE'S ALL THESE COSTS COMING FROM THE DEPARTMENT AND WE JUST GOT OVER RAISING THE UTILITY RATES. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE RATES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND I WON'T MISQUOTE THEM, BUT I KNOW IT WAS A COUPLE OF PERCENTAGE POINTS.
I KNOW MY BILL IS GOING TO GO UP QUITE A FEW DOLLARS PER MONTH AND SO ARE ALL THE CITIZENS, THE PALM BAY JUST SO WE CAN KEEP UP WITH THE DEBT THAT THAT DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS. WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE UTILITIES TO THE FAR REACHES OF THE CITY.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MUCH IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTAINING DEBT AND THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING AND THOSE COSTS ARE ALREADY INCURRED.
SO NOW WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DIRECTOR TO HAVE MORE SALARY.
IT'S JUST THE TIMELINESS IS REALLY TOUGH FOR ME.
SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR HOW MUCH I SAID THERE, BUT I'M HOPING YOU GUYS CAN UNPACK THAT AND ANSWER A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS.
ANYONE ELSE? DEPUTY MAYOR? HMM. MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS OR OF THAT OR BEFORE OR AFTER.
HMM. AND NATHAN WHITE, 13 01 SEABREEZE, I AGREE WITH MR. OLSZEWSKI REGARDING.
I'M. THIS IS A STRANGE ONE, BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING AGAINST MR. LITTLE IN THE SLIGHTEST.
BUT THIS DOES SEEM LIKE AN ODD CHOICE.
A STRANGE COLLECTION OF INFORMATION TO SUPPORT IT.
UH, THE. REFERENCES TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
COMPARES FROM APRIL 20 20, IT COMPARES PALM BAY SALARY RANGE FOR THE POSITION OF UTILITIES DIRECTOR TO OVER 20 MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THERE ARE 411 MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT IS LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT.
FACT, STATISTICALLY LESS A SAMPLE GROUP OF LESS THAN 30 IS TYPICALLY CONSIDERED STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT.
AND THE TWO REFERENCED BY NAME ARE MELBOURNE AND WEST PALM BEACH, WHICH CONFUSES ME, SO I SUPPOSE I'M LOOKING FOR.
SOME CLARIFICATION, PERHAPS ON THAT, OR PERHAPS JUST.
WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, MAYBE TO LOOK AT THIS.
WE JUST PASSED OUR LARGEST CITY BUDGET EVER HERE IN PALM BAY SO FAR.
TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY ISH MILLION DOLLARS LOOSELY, I FORGET THE EXACT NUMBER.
THE CITY OF WEST PALM BEACH IS A CITY BUDGET OF 700 TWELVE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.
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THAT IS. THREE TIMES MORE THAN THREE TIMES OUR BUDGET.SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN PROPERLY COMPARE OURSELVES TO THEM FOR OUR PAY RATES FOR VARIOUS, PROBABLY FOR ANY POSITION.
ALSO JUST BASED ON A COUPLE OF HOURS OF RESEARCH TODAY, THE NUMBERS FOR MEDIAN OR AVERAGE SALARIES FOR THIS POSITION, NOTHING I'VE FOUND MATCHES, THE NUMBERS PUT FORTH HERE.
SO I WOULD NOT SAY THAT I'D BE AGAINST A SALARY INCREASE, BUT I DO BELIEVE, AS PRESENTED, THIS SEEMS LIKE.
INCOMPLETE OR INCORRECT INFORMATION, SUPPORTING A BIT OF A LARGE INCREASE TO BE DOING RIGHT AFTER RAISING ALL UTILITIES FEES ACROSS THE BOARD, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE ANY THAT DIDN'T GO UP. SO YES, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN ODD COLLECTION OF SUPPORTING INFORMATION FOR A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AT AN ODD TIME, I WOULD SAY.
ADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR, TO GO KIND OF BACKWARDS WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS HERE.
MR. OLSZEWSKI SO IS THAT IS CORRECT THAT THE THE PAY RANGE IS GOING TO MAX OUT WITH THIS PROPOSAL. THE CITY'S PAY RANGES FOR ALL POSITIONS HAVE REALLY NOT BEEN ADJUSTED FOR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AT THIS POINT.
SO WHENEVER THERE HAS BEEN LIKE A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, RANGES REMAIN FIXED.
SO WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS THERE'S THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH THE PAY SCALES CITYWIDE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR, AS I BELIEVE COUNCIL IS AWARE, IS A A FULL REVIEW OF ALL CITY POSITIONS AND THE PAY RANGES BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN ENOUGH EVIDENCE JUST AS WE TRY TO HIRE PEOPLE IN OTHER POSITIONS THAT OUR PAY SCALES ARE IN MANY, MANY LOCATIONS OFF AND NOT COMPETITIVE WITH THE MARKET AROUND US.
BUT TO TO SORT OF ANSWER A FEW OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DETAILS PROVIDED IN THIS AGENDA MEMO THAT INCLUDED VARIOUS RANGES OF SALARIES FOR UTILITY DIRECTORS, AND THERE WAS A A WIDE SWATH OF INFORMATION PROVIDED TO GIVE JUST SOME OVERALL PERSPECTIVE ON THE REQUEST.
THE KEY REQUEST, THOUGH, WHICH ACTUALLY CAME WELL BEFORE WE BEGAN WORKING ON THE THE INCREASE TO RATES. IT WAS ACTUALLY FOUR OR FIVE SIX MONTHS AGO THAT THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR ACTUALLY REQUESTED THIS AND WE CONSIDERED IT THEN.
I UNDERSTAND THE TIMING CONCERN, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR A LITTLE WHILE. ONE OF THE MOST COMPELLING REASONS FOR ME TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE FACT THAT MR. LITTLE STARTED OUT IS OUR UTILITIES ENGINEER.
THAT WAS HIS ORIGINAL POSITION WITH THE CITY.
HE BECAME THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR AND WE HAVE HAD A VERY HARD TIME WITH OUR CURRENT PAY SCALES, FINDING A REPLACEMENT UTILITIES ENGINEER.
SO FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, MR. LITTLE HAS SERVED BOTH AS UTILITIES DIRECTOR AND THE UTILITIES ENGINEER.
BASICALLY SERVING IN TWO POSITIONS HAS NOT REQUESTED A PAY INCREASE, ALTHOUGH HE COULD HAVE REQUESTED IT. YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT TIME, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
SO THIS FOR ME IS A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST OF EIGHT POINT SIXTY THREE PERCENT.
HE IS AN ENGINEER, ALSO SERVING AS A DIRECTOR, AND HE IS OVERSEEING A SYSTEM THAT IS UNDERGOING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPANSION.
WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL PROJECTS AT OUR PLANTS THAT HE HAS TO PROJECT MANAGE ALONG WITH HIS NORMAL DIRECTOR DUTIES.
WE ARE GROWING AS A CITY AND SO THERE'S CONSTANT EXPANSION OF THE SYSTEM TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS. WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND IT, OBVIOUSLY IN THE INTERIOR PARTS OF THE CITY.
BUT THAT'S NOT HAPPENED JUST YET BECAUSE OF FINANCE LIMITATIONS ON WE CAN ONLY DO SO MANY CAPITAL PROJECTS AT A TIME.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION.
THE PAY SCALES I EXPECT TO BE ADJUSTED AS A RESULT OF THE EVERGREEN STUDY, WHICH IS THE COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO DO THE PAY ADJUSTMENTS FOR US.
SO I ANTICIPATE NEXT OCTOBER, IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND MR. LITTLE IS AT THE TOP OF THE PAY RANGE, I ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD HAVE ADJUSTED THE PAY RANGES BY THEN.
SO HE WOULD NO LONGER BE AT THE TOP OF OF THAT SCALE.
IF THAT DID NOT HAPPEN, THEN WHAT? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN FOR MR. LITTLE, ALONG WITH WHAT HAPPENS FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY WHO ARE OUT THERE? MAX IS IN OCTOBER.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES SOME SORT OF A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, A TWO PERCENT OR THREE PERCENT, THAT AMOUNT IS PAID OUT TO THE EMPLOYEE AT THAT MOMENT.
AND THEY DON'T THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GET A PAY A PAY INCREASE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.
IT JUST IS A LUMP SUM THAT GETS PAID OUT IN OCTOBER.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A QUICK RESPONSE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS.
JEFFREY M. JOHNSON THANK YOU, MAYOR, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO PULL THIS ITEM IN THE ITEM BEFORE BECAUSE MY THING WAS, YOU KNOW, WE APPROVED TO HAVE THE STUDY DONE.
SO I WAS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING THE STUDY DONE AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT THE
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RIGHT RATE IS FOR A UTILITIES ENGINEER.THAT WAY, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT RATE AND HOPEFULLY GET SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION.
SO HE'S NOT DOING TWO POSITIONS.
AND ALSO SEE THE RIGHT RATE FOR UTILITIES, DIRECTOR, BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THAT WAS MY TAKE ON IT.
AND I TALKED, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO MS. SHERMAN ABOUT IT. I WANTED TO SEE WHERE COUNCIL WAS.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS LEADING WITH THIS.
I MEAN, FOSTER. CAN I HAVE MISSED THE LITTLE COME UP, SAY I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TO ASK.
YES, SIR. AND THE REASON WHY I WANT MR. LITTLE TO COME UP DIRECT A LITTLE.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY? JANUARY 20, 17? AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THE DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES SINCE AUGUST TWENTY EIGHTEEN? AND WHAT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE UTILITY DEPARTMENTS OR WHAT CHALLENGE THAT YOU HAD TO INCUR BEFORE YOU BECAME DIRECTOR? AND WHAT IMPROVEMENTS HAVE YOU DONE WHEN YOU BECAME DIRECTOR? WE COMPLETED THE DESIGN FOR THE NEW WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE ACQUIRED THE SRF LOAN TO PAY FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION.
WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SOIL NUTRIENT REMOVAL PROJECT THAT OUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY WAS ABLE TO GET AN EXTRA NEARLY $3 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDING TO PAY FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT. AND I'VE REORGANIZED THE WAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT OPERATES SIMPLIFIED HOW OPERATIONS DEALS WITH MAINTENANCE.
ORIGINALLY, WE HAD MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD JUST RESPOND TO THE DIFFERENT PLANTS NOW.
MAINTENANCE IS IN-HOUSE AT EACH OF THE PLANTS OR OR CHANGES.
BUT THE BIG ONES ARE THE DESIGNS ALSO, WE COMPLETE THE EXPANSION OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE NEW UPCOMING WASTEWATER PLANT.
I WAS THERE FOR START TO FINISH FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT $11 MILLION PROJECT AND ACQUIRING A COMMERCIAL LOAN IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THAT.
YOU DID THIS BY WORKING TWO POSITIONS MORE OR LESS.
OK. SO AND THE GRANTS? HOW MUCH GRANT WERE YOU ABLE TO HELP? WELL, SO SRF IS A LOAN.
IT'S A LOW INTEREST LOAN THAT HAS A GOOD REPAYMENT TERMS. THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE LOAN IS THIRTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING ABOUT 27 TO 28 MILLION OF THAT.
AND THEN THE SORREL GRANT MORE OR LESS FROM THE SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON PROJECT PLAN. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT THREE POINT FOUR MILLION.
WELL, AS I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB AND THESE.
IF YOU WAS A YARD ENGINEER, YES, AND IF YOU WAS TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY OR ANOTHER PRIVATE COMPANY, WHAT WOULD BE THE STARTING SALARY OF AN ENGINEER BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET? IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY PRICE.
WITH MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE 20 ALMOST 20 YEARS, PROBABLY BETWEEN 80 TO 120.
OK, AS A UTILITY DIRECTOR, IT COULD BE HIGHER THAN 120.
YES. THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
I STILL STAND WHERE I WAS BECAUSE, YES, WE GET AND I RESPECT MR. LITTLE, I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ALL THE TIME.
BUT WHAT I SEE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT RAISE IT NOW AND THEN THE STUDY MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, WE DIDN'T RAISE IT ENOUGH OR, YOU KNOW, OR VICE VERSA.
THAT'S HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT. SO.
AND THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THE STUDY, THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING AT WAITING FOR THAT SO WELL, I HAVE SOME.
THE CITY, IF YOU COMPARE AND IF YOU LOOKED IN THE PACKET TO BREVARD COUNTY, PALM BAY IS WAY LOW. MELBOURNE.
UH, WE DON'T EVEN REACH THE CAP OF MELBOURNE UTILITY DIRECTOR.
I THINK IT WAS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SOMETHING THOUSAND.
SO MR. LITTLE IS DOING YEOMAN'S WORK, HE'S HE'S WORKING TOO.
HE'S DOING HIS ENGINEERING JOB AND HE'S DOING IT.
AND THEN HE'S RUNNING A DEPARTMENT IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.
I THINK EIGHT PERCENT IS IS TOO LITTLE TO GIVE THEM.
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THAT'S THE RAISE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT PERCENT RAISE.AND AT THE MAX OF A DIRECTOR SALARY ACROSS THE BOARD OF PALM BAY, THE MAX OF EACH DIRECTOR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
SHERMAN IS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE THOUSAND FOR EVERY DIRECTOR, THAT WOULD BE THE MAX.
YES, SIR. OK. MR. LITTLE IS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
AND THAT'S JUST SAY SOMETHING WITH HIS BACKGROUND IN EDUCATION, WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I THINK GIVING HIM A RAISE RIGHT NOW WILL BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THE STUDY COULD COME BACK AND SAY WE SHOULD HAVE GAVE HIM MORE.
AND WHEN THAT STUDY COME BACK, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT.
BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S WHO'S DOING TWO JOBS.
WAIT ANOTHER SIX TO SEVEN MONTHS AND NOT COMPENSATE THEM FOR DOING GOOD WORK FOR PALM BAY. SO I URGE HIM, URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO PASS THIS RACE.
WE FELIX YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN.
I'M GOOD AS PRESENTED THAT LISTEN, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEES AND BUILDING THAT HISTORICAL VALUE.
WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S HERE SINCE 2017 DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB, GIVEN TIRELESSLY OF HIS TIME, DAY IN, DAY OUT.
WHENEVER WE NEED SOMETHING, HE'S THERE.
WHENEVER WE HAVE ISSUES THAT POP UP ON A DIME, HE'S THERE.
AND SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH GRANTING THIS THIS INCREASE.
THE STUDY WILL SHOW WHEREVER HE FALLS AT THAT TIME, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH IN THE FUTURE.
BUT FOR HIM TO BE TAXED THE WAY WE DO AND JUST TO SAY JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND NOT NOT REWARD THEM AND NOT BUILD IN THAT TRUST.
I CERTAINLY THINK THAT WOULD BE DOING AN INJUSTICE TO HIM AND HIS FAMILY AND OUR TEAM HERE COLLECTIVELY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
IF MY COLLEAGUES WERE TO MAKE.
I LIKE. I CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO.
WELL, TWENTY ONE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE THE ANNUAL SALARY OF THE UTILITY DIRECTOR. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. OK.
WELL, I'M CALLING TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, I ANY OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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AND HOW FITTING IS IT, IT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK.YOU KNOW, THEY SAY TIMING IS EVERYTHING, RIGHT? HOW FITTING IS IT? GOD BLESS YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO ON OUR ON BEHALF OF THIS CITY.
SO, CHRIS, AS DIRECTOR, YOU WANT TO STEP FORWARD, COME UP HERE.
PROCLAMATION CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, NOTICE OF PROCLAMATION OF CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK, OCTOBER 4TH THROUGH THE 8TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK WAS FIRST HELD IN 1988.
ARE YOU OK? JUST CHECKING, JUST CHECKING.
NINETEEN EIGHTY EIGHT AND OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED BY CONGRESS AS A NATIONWIDE CELEBRATION IN NINETEEN NINETY TWO.
WHEREAS THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE CUSTOMER SERVICE EMPLOYEES ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
AND WHEREAS THE CUSTOMER SERVICE EMPLOYEES ARE A DEDICATED TEAM THAT CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATE A STRONG COMMITMENT TO CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S THEME POWER OF SERVICE IS A TRIBUTE TO THESE CUSTOMER SERVICE PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK ON THE FRONT LINES WHERE CITY EMPLOYEES MEET OUR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING AND THESE LETTERS ARE GETTING SMALLER AS I GET OLDER.
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NOW, THEREFORE, I RA MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 4TH THROUGH THE 8TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE AS CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE AND HONOR THESE SERVICE PROFESSIONALS FOR THEIR FRIENDLY AND COURTEOUS ASSISTANCE THEY PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY WITNESS HEREOF.I LAY HANDS, SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SEVENTH DAY OF OCTOBER TO TWENTY THOUSAND TWENTY ONE.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, I HAVE THE BEST STAFF, CUSTOMER CARE STAFF IN THE CITY AND THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
HOWEVER, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE THE LARGEST CONTINGENT AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THE HEAD OF MY CUSTOMER CARE SECTION, I'D LIKE HER TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT HER DEPARTMENT OR HER SECTION.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE PROCLAMATION OF CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK, AS CHRIS STATED, AND I'M NOT BIASED.
I THINK WE DO HAVE THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE STAFF.
WE TRY. IT'S A HARD JOB SOMETIMES TO TRY TO UPHOLD THE CITY ORDINANCE, THE CITY CHARTER AND STILL GIVE GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE.
BUT MY STAFF, SOME OF US THAT ARE HERE AND SOME OF THAT'S WATCHING RIGHT NOW, WE APPRECIATE THE MAYOR THAT'S ALWAYS HAVING OUR BACK.
CITY MANAGEMENT, OUR DIRECTOR, OUR BUSINESS OPERATIONS MANAGER, THAT'S BEHIND ME AND EVEN THE CITIZENS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU GUYS JUST COME IN AND YOU GUYS SAY, WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. SOMETIMES WE GET SURVEYS, WE GET LETTERS, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE GOOD FEEDBACK. SOMETIMES WE HAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, BUT WE TAKE THAT AND WE JUST TRY TO BE BETTER AND THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN.
YOU WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE? THIS IS.
OK. I DON'T WANT TO COVER YOU GOOD.
IT'S. I'M GOING TO ASK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TO STEP FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL MS. BEVERLY DOMEIER AND ANYBODY ELSE FROM SERENE HARBOR? COME ON UP. HELLO.
NOTICE THE PROCLAMATION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, OCTOBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECOGNIZES THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY MS. POLICE DEPARTMENTS VICTIMS SERVICES UNIT ASSISTS OVER TWO THOUSAND VICTIMS AND THEIR CHILDREN ANNUALLY, AND WHEREAS ON AVERAGE 20 PEOPLE PER MINUTE ARE PHYSICALLY ABUSED BY AN INTIMATE PARTNER IN THE UNITED STATES OVER THE COURSE OF ONE YEAR.
THIS EQUATES TO MORE THAN 10 MILLION WOMEN AND MEN, AND WHEREAS ONE IN EVERY FOUR WOMEN AND ONE IN SEVEN MEN WILL EXPERIENCE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DURING HER OR HIS LIFETIME.
AND WHEREAS SEXUAL VIOLENCE AFFECTS WOMEN, MEN AND CHILDREN OF ALL RACIAL, SOCIAL, RELIGIOUS, ETHNIC AND ECONOMIC GROUPS IN OUR COMMUNITY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VIOLATES AN INDIVIDUAL'S PRIVACY, DIGNITY, SECURITY AND HUMANITY DUE TO THE SYSTEMATIC, SYSTEMATIC USE OF PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, SEXUAL, PHYSIOLOGICAL AND ECONOMIC CONTROL AND OR ABUSE.
AND WHEREAS EVERY PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO LIVE THEIR LIFE FREE FROM THE THREAT OF ABUSE AND VIOLENCE. AND WHEREAS VICTIMS SHOULD HAVE HELP TO FIND THE COMPASSION, COMFORT AND
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HEALING THEY NEED AND DOMESTIC ABUSERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW.NOW, THEREFORE, I CAN JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT WORK TOWARD IMPROVING VICTIM SAFETY AND HOLDING PERPETRATORS OF DOMESTIC ABUSE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS AGAINST INDIVIDUAL VICTIMS IN OUR SOCIETY.
IT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY JOHNSON, WE APPRECIATE IT.
MAYOR MEDINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN OUT TO VISIT US.
WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ALL THE SUPPORTERS WE HAVE.
WE HAVE MANY FRIENDS IN THE AUDIENCE.
THANK YOU TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS, COMMUNITY SUPPORTERS, MY HUSBAND, MY SWEET DAUGHTER AND THE AMAZING PEOPLE BEHIND ME WHO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT FOR US EVERY DAY.
THESE ARE SERENE HARBOR EMPLOYEES AND THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT FOR SURVIVORS HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY. WE APPRECIATE IT.
I'M GOING TO CALL UP MARGARITA CHAVEZ.
HOW ARE YOU DOING, MAN? IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU.
SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THIS PROCLAMATION.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS SAMUEL S.
LOPEZ, BORN IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK.
OF PUERTO RICAN PARENTS WAS AN ELECTRICIAN IN THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS, LOCAL THREE AND CIVIL RIGHTS ADVOCATES, ACTIVISTS IN NEW YORK CITY WHO FOUNDED THE UTB UNITED THIRD BRIDGE INCORPORATED IN 1977.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE WEREN'T BORN THEN, RIGHT, AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION.
WHOSE MOTTO WAS IN JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, WE TRUST AND IN UNITY, THERE IS STRENGTH. THE OBJECTIVES WERE TO FURTHER THE ADVANCEMENT OF MINORITIES IN THE AREAS OF EDUCATION, CULTURAL AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES IN EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING AND SOCIAL JUSTICE.
LOPEZ MOVED TO MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, IN MARCH NINETEEN NINETY THREE AND ESTABLISHED BOVARD COUNTY'S FIRST ANNUAL PUERTO RICAN DAY PARADE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA, NOVEMBER 16.
HOSTED BY UTB AND ACCORDING TO SAMUEL S.
LOPEZ, HE DID IT BECAUSE HE BELIEVED THAT BUILDING STRONG SELF-ESTEEM THROUGH EDUCATION WILL BE THE GREATEST GIFT WE CAN GIVE OUR CHILDREN.
AND THE PUERTO RICAN DAY PARADE WILL BE A CELEBRATION OF THE CULTURE AND HERITAGE OF THE PUERTO RICAN PEOPLE.
AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR, AMERICANS OBSERVE NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH, EXCUSE ME, TO OCTOBER 15TH, NOTICE HOW HISPANICS CELEBRATE TWO MONTHS.
ISN'T THAT INTERESTING? BY CELEBRATING EDUCATION, CULTURE AND CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY HISPANICS, THE 2021 NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH THEME IS ESPERANZA, A CELEBRATION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE AND HOPE.
I THREW THE SPANISH IN THERE, HUH? YOU KNOW, I PRACTICE WITH MY PASTORS JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW? WHEREAS IN 2002, SAMUEL LOPEZ FOUNDED THE FIRST PUERTO RICAN HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN BREVARD COUNTY TO PROMOTE HISPANIC BUSINESSES.
AND WHEREAS IN TWENTY THIRTEEN, SAMUEL S.
LOPEZ BOUGHT SPANISH HISTORY TO BREVARD COUNTY, HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE WHOOMP ON SEVERAL HISTORICAL LANDING SITE OF 15 13, THE FIRST LANDING WHILE ALSO SERVING ON THE
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BREVARD COUNTY'S HISTORICAL COMMISSION, WHERE HE WAS HONORED.SAMUEL REENACTED THE LANDING OF THE THE ON MELBOURNE BEACH.
I REMEMBER THAT DAY AT THE 5TH CENTENNIAL 500 CENTENNIAL AND HAD THE PART NAMED HU AMPONSAH THEIR OWN PART.
SAMUEL ALSO HAD A STATUE CREATED AS A SYMBOL REPRESENTING THE TRUE DISCOVERY OF FLORIDA.
AFTER SAMUEL'S PASSING IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, BREVARD COUNTY HONORED HIM BY NAMING THE PAVILION OF THAT PARK IN MEMORY OF SAMUEL C.
LOPEZ, FOUNDER, ROYAL ORDER OF THE SWAMP ON SIERRA LEONE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I RA MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND WE INVITE ALL CITIZENS TO EXTEND GREETINGS AND BEST WISHES TO ALL OBSERVING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND WITNESS THEREOF.
I SET IN MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE A FIX THE SEVEN OF OCTOBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
I'M GOING TO. I'M GOING TO KEEP A SECRET LITTLE STATEMENT.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARGARITA CHAVEZ, I AM THE DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT SAM DEVELOPED.
WELL, I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME.
I WON'T SAY HOW LONG, BUT I CAME TO BECOME A DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO HELP THE PEOPLE. AND IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER 17TH OF 20 19 THAT WE HAD THE HURRICANE MARIA.
AND HE AND HIS WIFE WERE BEHIND A WHOLE SCENE, BUT THEY HAD VOLUNTEERS LIKE ME COME IN, TRY AND HELP IN SEPARATE STUFF OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO DONATED FOR THE PEOPLE IN PUERTO RICO. AND WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL BECAUSE WE GOT SO MUCH THAT WE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING IT SENT TO PUERTO RICO, AND THEN WE GOT A FOUNDER WHO HELPED US.
BUT WITH ME, I NEVER LIKED BEING HERE.
I WAS ALWAYS THE PERSON BEHIND THE SCENES.
HE WAS ALWAYS THE PERSON IN FRONT OF.
AND EVERYONE HERE ON THE COUNCIL WORKED WITH HIM TEDIOUSLY, EVEN NOW, IT STILL GOES ON.
EVEN THOUGH HE PASSED AWAY, WE HAD A PARADE SET UP FOR THIS YEAR.
SUZANNE BELIEVE HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE A SPREADER OF ANY EVENT FOR PEOPLE GETTING SICK BECAUSE HIS WHOLE GOAL WAS NOT ONLY THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, BUT ALL COMMUNITIES OF EVERY RACE. AS LONG AS IT WAS SOMETHING GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
THEREFORE, WE'RE POSTPONING THAT PARADE AS WE HAD TO DISCUSS WITH THE CITY TO ANOTHER FURTHER DATE WHEN IT'S BETTER.
BUT I'M GOING TO READ TO YOU FROM HIS DAUGHTER AND HIS SON A LITTLE MESSAGE ON BEHALF OF THE UTB UNITED THIRD BRIDGE INC, FLORIDA PUERTO RICAN HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE INC.
SAMUEL DAUGHTER, SAMANTHA LOPEZ BRICKMAN AND HIS SON SAMUEL D.
LOPEZ AND EMMANUEL LOPEZ WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE PRESTIGE HONOR BESTOWED TO SAMUEL LOPEZ, WHO WAS A BELOVED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WHO DEDICATED TO THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING IT WAS FELT FOR FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS HONOR AND THIS COMES FROM THEIR CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT HERE TODAY.
THEY LIVE OUT OF STATE OR OUT OF THE COUNTY.
BUT AS FOR ME, BEING THAT HE WAS MY TEACHER, I LEARNED A LOT.
I WAS A SIDE PERSON ALL THE TIME.
ME, ALWAYS THE ONE BEHIND THE SCENES, NEVER IN FRONT.
SO TODAY IS A BIG DEAL FOR ME BEING HERE AND I WOULD DO IT FOR HIM, FOR HIS HONOR.
I'M THINKING. SO I'M GOING TO CALL UP NANCY BRUNT IN HONOR OF MANUFACTURING MONTH RAW.
NANCY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO BRING A WHOLE TEAM WITH YOU.
MAYBE WE CAN GET JOANIE TO STAND NEXT TO YOU, RIGHT?
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YEAH. I DON'T EVEN LIKE STANDING.OH, REALLY? OH, NANCY, COME ON UP.
WE'LL HAVE NANCY PELTON, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
SHE'LL JOIN US MANUFACTURING MONTH IN BOVARD OCTOBER 20.
TWENTY ONE. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BOARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. AND BY THE WAY, IT IS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH IN KASAI.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT SAID THAT ENOUGH.
OCTOBER'S MANUFACTURING MONTH IN FLORIDA AND TO DEMONSTRATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MANUFACTURING SECTOR IN OUR LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL ECONOMIES, AND TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE MANY REWARDING, HIGH SKILLED MANUFACTURING CAREERS AVAILABLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS MANUFACTURING IS A CORNERSTONE OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND TARGETED INDUSTRY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS THE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION OF FLORIDA, WHICH WAS ORGANIZED IN EARLY 2006 TO IMPROVE FLORIDA'S MANUFACTURING BUSINESS CLIMATE AND THE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION OF FLORIDA'S ON THE SPACE COAST AND ITS PARTNERSHIP WITH FLORIDA MAKERS, OR FLORIDA MAKES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S MANUFACTURING EXTENSION PARTNERSHIP NATIONAL NETWORK.
WHEREAS MASK OFFERS AN ONLINE DATABASE NAMED COMICS FLORIDA, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE MANUFACTURING SUPPLY CHAIN WORKFORCE AND RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT CONNECTION SOLUTION OFFERED FOR MANUFACTURERS, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND THOSE PERFORMING MANUFACTURING R&D IN FLORIDA.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS THE DREAM, IT DO IT NETWORK A UNIQUE NATIONAL NETWORK OF PROFESSIONALS DEDICATED TO ENGAGING AND EDUCATING AND EMPLOYING TODAY STUDENTS IN HIGH QUALITY MANUFACTURING JOBS, WHILE EDUCATING CAREER INFLUENCERS LIKE PARENTS AND EDUCATORS. WHEREAS MANY GOD BLESS YOU.
WHEREAS MANUFACTURING IS THE ECONOMIC DRIVER OF STRONG COMMUNITIES WITH OVER 500 MANUFACTURERS IN BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, IT IS ONLY NATURAL TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THIS FUNDAMENTAL INDUSTRY.
WHEREAS THE STATE OF FLORIDA RECOGNIZES THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS MANUFACTURING MONTH AS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO EXPAND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE VALUE OF MANUFACTURING BRINGS TO FLORIDA'S ECONOMY AND TO SHOWCASE THE HIGH SKILLED, HIGH PAID MANUFACTURING JOBS NEEDED BY THE INDUSTRY. WHEREAS DURING MANUFACTURING MONTH, U.S.
MANUFACTURERS OPEN THE DOORS TO SHOWCASE MODERN MANUFACTURING AND FOSTER INTERESTS IN MANUFACTURING CAREERS.
NOW, THEREFORE, I RA MEDINA THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SET OFF AS DUBAI DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE AS MANUFACTURING MONTH AND WITNESS HERE OF I SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SEVENTH DAY OF OCTOBER.
CONGRATULATIONS, NANCY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
MANUFACTURING DOES HAVE HIGH PAYING JOBS AND AND WE SO OFTEN OVERLOOK THAT, DON'T WE? AND WE'LL LET NANCY.
YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AS YOU KNOW, THROUGH COVID, THERE WAS DEFINITELY A NEED FOR MANUFACTURING.
SO THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS WORKED WITH A LOT OF OUR MANUFACTURERS AND ALSO THROUGH OUR CARES FUNDING, ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME JOB TRAINING AND SOME FUNDS TO HELP THEM KEEP THE BUSINESSES OPEN.
SO WE THANK ALL OF OUR MANUFACTURERS HERE AT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I ALSO ASKED NANCY WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BECAUSE SHE WORKS A LOT WITH A LOT OF THE MANUFACTURERS AS WELL, SO SHE MAY HAVE.
ACTUALLY, WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND MASK, THEY HAD THE CPD PROGRAM CERTIFIED PRODUCTION TECHNICIAN AND THEY ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE THE NEXT GENERATION OF MACHINISTS AND OF THE TRADES BECAUSE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES, THE FOCUS HAS BEEN SO MUCH ON UNIVERSITY THAT THE TRADES HAVE SERIOUSLY SUFFERED AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE LARGEST RETIREMENT OF THAT GENERATION AND OUR PLUMBERS AND OUR ELECTRICIANS AND WELDERS ARE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THEM NOW.
SO THERE WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE ENOUGH WHEN ALL THIS GROUP IS RETIRING.
SO THE EDC SAW THAT THE CPT PROGRAM WAS A STEPPING STONE TO GET SOME OF THESE YOUNG INDIVIDUALS INTO THE TRADES TO MOVE ON TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE SO MUCH MONEY AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT DEGREE, YOU CAN.
IT'S A VERY REWARDING CAREER, SO WE ARE THRILLED THAT THEY ARE RECOGNIZING THIS AS MANUFACTURING. SO THANK YOU.
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GOOD.SO WE'RE ON PRESENTATIONS, AND NANCY, I'M GLAD YOU'RE STILL IN THE FRONT ROW THERE.
[PRESENTATION]
MADAM SHERMAN.OK. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH.
WELL, MY NAME IS NANCY PELTON, AND I'M PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND TONIGHT, I'M NOT ALONE.
I KNOW YOU OFTEN THINK THAT IT'S JUST ME, BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE EIGHT BOSSES AND WITH ME, I HAVE OUR BOARD CHAIR, KEITH G.
AND DAVID JONES IS ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS WELL.
SO I'M THRILLED TO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT AND FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT, YES, IT ISN'T JUST ME.
WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM AND THEY'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS WITH BOTH OUR BOARD MEMBERS, OUR AMBASSADORS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND I KNOW I SAY THIS EVERY TIME, BUT THE CHAMBER DOES BRING TOGETHER BUSINESSES SO THAT WE CAN DO COLLECTIVELY, BUT WE WHAT WE CAN'T DO BY OURSELVES.
OUR MISSION IS TO SERVE, ADVOCATE AND PROMOTE AS THE TRUSTED VOICE FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. OUR NUMBER ONE JOB IS TO SAFEGUARD THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SINCE WE ARE THE LARGEST BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN PALM BAY.
OUR MEMBERS RANGE FROM HOME BASED BUSINESSES TO MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS.
WHEN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY GROWS AND PROSPERS, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE GROWS AND PROSPERS. I'M NOT SURE IF PEOPLE KNOW, BUT WE ARE A 501 SIX NONPROFIT CORPORATION.
WE ARE INDEPENDENT AND OUR INCOME IS GENERATED FROM OUR MEMBERS AND EVENTS.
WE HAVE 347 BUSINESSES AND AN OPERATING BUDGET OF A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.
THE CHAMBER LEVERAGES EVERY MEMBERSHIP TO BUILD THE VOICE OF BUSINESS AS EVERY MEMBER WHO JOINS INCREASES THE NUMBER OF BUSINESS CONSTITUENTS AND CHAMBER THE CHAMBER REPRESENTS.
THIS MEANS MORE LEVERAGE ON A LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL ISSUES.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR RESPONSES TO THE CONCERNS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE BUSINESSES, DEVELOPERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT REACH OUT TO ME WITH AN INTEREST OR SOME CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE.
I'M NOT ONE REALLY TO SOUND ALARM BELLS OR OVERREACT, BUT IF I HEAR ENOUGH FROM THEM, I ALWAYS REACH OUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT I'M ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT AND KNOW THE ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED.
I KNOW THE DIRECTIVE IS COMING FROM THE COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER DOWNWARD.
THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE CUSTOMER SERVICE RECOGNITION BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
THINGS ARE CHANGING AND THE CONCERN OF CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE IT EASIER TO DO BUSINESS IN PALM BAY IS COMMENDABLE.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE IN-PERSON SUPPORT ALL OF YOU SHOW FOR THE CHAMBER AND THE BUSINESSES. YOU'RE THE ACCESS TO YOU AND YOUR ATTENDANCE AT OUR EVENTS.
IT JUST PROVIDES VISIBILITY IN THE COMMUNITY AS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR COMMITMENT TO TRULY REPRESENT PALM BAY.
AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN SEEN IN THE PAST.
THE CHAMBER HAS A NUMBER OF DELIVERABLES FOR OUR MEMBERS THAT INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, GENERATING ECONOMY.
WITH EVERY EVENT WE PRODUCE, WE GENERATE JOBS WITH EVERY BUSINESS THAT GROWS WITH THE GROWTH OF OUR ECONOMY AND WITH EVERY NEW BUSINESS WE ATTRACT.
ONE OF OUR BEST EXAMPLES WAS OUR SUPPORT OF BUSINESSES DURING THE PANDEMIC, PROVIDING INFORMATION ON GRANT AND LOAN OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER WE'RE HELPING ONE MEMBER OR ALL MEMBERS. OUR DELIVERABLES ARE FOUND IN RESULTS OF BUSINESS GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES.
WE PROVIDE ON SO MANY LEVELS, FROM GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS ISSUES TO PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, AND EVEN THE PALM BAY MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL THAT WILL DRAW THOUSANDS OUT OF THEIR HOME AND INTO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
MEMBERS LEVERAGE THE DATA AND BUSINESS NEWS WE PROVIDE ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR THEIR BUSINESS PLANNING STRATEGIES AND MARKETING SALES, AND TO BE AWARE OF THE GOVERNMENT ISSUES IMPACTING THEIR BOTTOM LINE.
WE SHARE INITIATIVES TO THE CITY OF INITIATIVES.
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THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS PROMOTING CITY EVENTS AND UPDATES AND RESPOND TO DEVELOPERS AND QUESTIONS. WE GET CONCERNING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY.I MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE VIRTUAL INTRODUCTIONS TO CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JOAN UNCLIP AROUND THE CITY'S TRUSTEESHIP WITH OUR CHAMBER LEVERAGES OUR ABILITY TO REACH AND COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
THIS YEAR, WE HAVE HAD ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN NEW BUSINESS CARD BUSINESSES INVEST IN OUR CHAMBER, ALONG WITH SEVEN NEW TRUSTEES WHO INVEST AT A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER LEVEL.
WE ARE A DIVERSE, INNOVATIVE AND COMPASSIONATE CHAMBER WHO ALWAYS PUTS OUR MEMBERS FIRST.
AS YOU KNOW, I TRAVELED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO FUNCTIONS EACH MONTH, BRINGING AWARENESS WHEREVER I GO OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND PALM BAY.
I HAD A MEMBER JOIN THAT SAID, YOU EARN THIS.
HE SAID I NEVER PAID MUCH ATTENTION TO PALM BAY BEFORE AND DIDN'T FEEL I NEEDED TO ENGAGE IN YOUR CHAMBER. BUT ONCE YOU TOOK OVER AND MADE THE EFFORT TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY DRIVING UP TO TITUSVILLE AND I HAVE A LOT AND KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, YOU INFORMED ME OF ALL THAT PALM BAY WAS DOING AND THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING, AND IT MADE ME REALIZE I NEEDED TO BE PART OF IT.
WE ARE A GREAT CHAMBER THAT PROVIDES AWARENESS OF PALM BAY RESOURCES.
I HAVE BEEN ON THREE TWO ONE LIFT OFF PODCASTS FOR THE SPACE COAST OFFICE OF TOURISM TWICE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, AND I'VE REALLY STARTED TO PROMOTE OUR ECO TOURISM.
OUR NEW BUSINESS DIRECTORY AND COMMUNITY GUIDE LISTS TWENTY TWO THINGS TO DO IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO, WHICH INCLUDES A LOT OF OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
YESTERDAY, I MET WITH THE MELBOURNE ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TEAM, MELISSA AND ROB TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN PARTNER, POTENTIALLY WITH ALLEGIANT AIRLINES, TO PROMOTE ECOTOURISM IN SOUTH BREVARD FOR THE PASSENGERS COMING FROM PITTSBURGH, CHARLOTTE AND NASHVILLE.
IF WE DON'T KEEP ENOUGH PEOPLE BOOKING THESE ROUTES, ALLEGIANT WILL NOT REMAIN AT THE AIRPORT. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR US TO SHOUT ABOUT THE WONDERFUL AMENITIES WE HAVE HERE THAT ARE OFTEN TAKEN FOR GRANTED.
PEOPLE PAY BIG DOLLARS TO GO FISHING, HUNTING, KAYAKING, CYCLING, BIRDING, ETC.
AND WE CAN CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE HEADS AND BEDS HERE IN PALM BAY.
I PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO X E EXP REALTY MASTERMIND INFORMING 30 PLUS REALTORS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND PALM BAY, AND HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHANGING DYNAMICS OF THE HOME MARKET AND PALM BAY. I PROVIDED THE SPACE COAST OFFICE TOURISM WITH RESTAURANTS THEY NEED TO INCLUDE ON THEIR WEBSITE.
THE LIST REALLY GOES ON OF HOW I PROMOTE PALM BAY.
OUR WEBSITE ATTRACTS OVER THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND VIEWS PER YEAR, MOSTLY FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES BASED ON GOOGLE SEARCHES.
WE HAD OVER 40000 VISITS TO OUR PAGE IN JULY ALONE.
WE HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED ON 50 FOR ONLINE ONLINE SITES, GENERATING VIEWS FOR THE AREA, WHILE OTHER SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OUR CHAMBER, HAD SIX.
WE HAVE OVER 4500 FOLLOWERS ON FACEBOOK, WHILE COMPARABLE INDUSTRIES STANDARD IS 200.
WE HAVE OVER 125 BUSINESS EVENTS AND MEETINGS EACH YEAR, WITH NEARLY 90 PERCENT IN PALM BAY. WE ARE THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SUPPORTING SOUTH BREVARD COUNTY.
WE LOOK AT FROM 190 TO SOUTHWARD IS THE AREA OF FOCUS ON, BUT WE HAVE MEMBERS ALL THE WAY UP TO TITUSVILLE AND ACTUALLY OUT OF THE COUNTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PAGE BEFORE YOU, MOST OF OUR SIGNATURE EVENTS ARE IN PALM BAY.
WE HAD THE MEET THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF BOTH PALM BAY AND WEST MELBOURNE AT THE AMERICAN LEGION. OUR MONTHLY MULTICULTURAL NETWORKING GROUPS MEETS ALL BUT ONE TIME WAS IN PALM BAY. OUR NEW MEMBER ORIENTATIONS ARE IN PALM BAY, OUR BOARD RETREAT AND EVEN THE ONE TOMORROW WILL BE IN PALM BAY.
OUR MARCH MEMBERSHIP MADNESS WAS IN PALM BAY.
THE CHAMBER HOME SHOW WAS AT THE TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE DISASTER RECOVERY WAS AT THE TE ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER, WHERE THE CO-HOST OF THE PALM BAY MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, ALSO AT THE FRED POPPI REGIONAL PARK IN PALM BAY, THE STATE OF THE CITY. BREAKFAST WAS IN PALM BAY.
OUR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING AUCTION WILL BE IN PALM BAY AND OUR LIFESTYLE, HEALTH AND WELLNESS EXPO IS PLANNED FOR PALM BAY.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION IS THAT WE ARE MORE THAN THE EVENTS WE HOST AND THE NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES.
WE ARE SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT.
THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE OUTGROWN SO MANY FACILITIES AS PEOPLE HEAR GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE CHAMBER AND WANT TO BE PART OF IT, AND THAT'S A GREAT CHALLENGE TO HAVE.
YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF THE CHAMBER'S SUCCESS AS THE INSTRUMENTAL ROLE YOUR EMERALD TRUSTEE SHIP PLAYS IN OUR CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT.
OUR GROWTH DOES PRESENT SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
OUR MONTHLY LUNCHEON HAS BEEN THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH FOR THE LAST AT LEAST 17 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CHAMBER.
EVENTS ARE COORDINATED WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, SO WE DON'T COMPETE FOR ATTENDEES.
THE MELBOURNE CHAMBER BREAKFAST IS THE FIRST THURSDAY COCOA BEACH CHAMBER, THE FIRST WEDNESDAY EVENING, TITUSVILLE CHAMBER, THE SECOND WEDNESDAY.
WEST MELBOURNE BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS ARE THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
THE NATIONAL SPACE CLUB OF FLORIDA WE COORDINATE WITH AB WA.
THE PALM BAY ROTARY CLUB IS THURSDAYS.
THERE'S SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS TO CONTEND WITH AND WE TRY NOT TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER
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BECAUSE EVERY ATTENDEE IS VALUABLE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO CANNIBALIZE AND HURT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE TRYING TO HAVE THEIR EVENTS.SUZANNE, SHERMAN AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING BRINGING THE MONTHLY LUNCHEON BACK TO PALM BAY SIX TIMES A YEAR.
AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT AWARE OF A LOCATION.
THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH THAT CAN HOST OUR LUNCHEON AND PROVIDE THE AMENITIES WE REQUIRE WILL NOT UNDULY AND INEFFICIENTLY TAXING OUR THREE POINT FIVE CHAMBER EMPLOYEES. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH COUNCIL ONE ON ONE TO REVIEW ALL THE GREAT THINGS OUR BOARD MADE UP OF VARIOUS BUSINESSES HELPS WITHIN THE CITY.
OR PERHAPS YOU CAN VISIT OUR CHAMBER RETREAT TOMORROW AT THE HYATT PLACE, LOCATED IN PALM BAY TO SEE US IN ACTION.
WE KEEP LOOKING AT LOCATIONS TO HOST OUR EVENTS AND ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO VIABLE ALTERNATIVES. WE TRULY APPRECIATE THE EMERALD TRUSTEE SHIP THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO OUR TRUSTEE MINGLE, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 17TH, ALSO IN PALM BAY AT LARSEN MOTORSPORTS, FOR A PRIVATE TOUR WITH THE TWO TIME WORLD JET DRAGSTER CHAMPION ELAINE LARSON.
YOU WILL GET AN EMAIL INVITATION THROUGH ROSEMARY.
YOUR PARTNERS MORE THAN EVER WITH THE CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED FOCUS ON BRINGING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT TO OUR WONDERFUL CITY.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? SO IN FOSTER, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
HMM. WAS AT THE LUNCHEON YESTERDAY, THAT WAS A GREAT SPEECH YOU GAVE WHEN.
UM. GOT HUSSEIN, I THINK IT WAS A LEGION, WAS IT LEGION AIRLINES WAS IT WAS PROMOTING COCOA BEACH AND OH, THE AIRPORT.
YEAH, YEAH. AT THE AIRPORT, THE AIRPORT.
YEAH, IT WAS THE AIRPORT. BUT SADLY, YEAH, IT WAS MELBOURNE AIRPORT PERSONNEL.
I THINK SHE'S A DIRECTOR OF SALES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS PROMOTING.
OH, PEOPLE COME HERE, GO TO COCOA BEACH, GO TO CAPE CANAVERAL AND THIS AND THAT, BUT NOT ONE MENTION OF MELBOURNE OR PALM BAY.
AND YOU STOOD UP AND YOU SAID REAL MONEY ABOUT WHAT WE COULD PROMOTE AND PALM BAY.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I WANT THE AUDIENCE TO HEAR THAT.
I WAS ON A ROLL YESTERDAY. I'M NOT SURE.
YEAH, I WAS SAYING THAT PEOPLE PAY BIG DOLLARS TO GO TO PLACES LIKE I.
I GO TO SANTOS OVER IN OCALA TO GO BIKE RIDING AND FOUND THIS AMAZING GEM HERE IN PALM BAY WITH THE OPENING.
THE RIBBON CUTTING THAT WE OPENED THE NEW TRAIL, THE BIKING TRAIL THAT NOW ALIGNS ALL THE WAY FROM THE ICE TRAIL TO MALABAR.
IT'S THIRTY ONE MILES OF TRAILS, WHICH IS AMAZING TO HAVE HERE THE BOVARD MOUNTAIN BIKING ASSOCIATION. I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAYBE PARTNER WITH THEM TO HAVE CYCLISTS COME HERE. WE HAVE OUR CANAL WHERE FLORIDA TECH BRINGS ROWERS FOR INTERNATIONAL COMPETITIONS DOWN THERE, THREE FORKS, STICK MARSH AND AND ALL THE BASS FISHING THAT WE HAVE. I MEAN, BASS PRO MOVED HERE.
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE WORLD CLASS AND YET NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT.
WE ARE LIKE THIS HIDDEN GEM OF FOR ECO TOURISM WITH TURKEY CREEK AND KAYAKING WITH PADDLE BOARDING. WE'RE WE'RE AMAZING THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THIS IN SUCH A GREAT CITY.
AND SO MY FOCUS IS TO TRY AND USE OUR TOURIST DOLLARS THAT THEY GIVE TO OUR CHAMBER TO BRING AWARENESS OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN BRING HEADS AND BEDS, AND THAT WE CAN PROMOTE THIS AREA AS A GREAT PLACE TO COME AND STAY FOR THE WEEKEND AND ENJOY THE GREAT OUTDOORS.
AND SURE, IF IT RAINS, IT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM, BUT IF NOT, IT IS THE GREATEST.
AND EVEN THAT THE TWENTY TWENTY TWO THINGS I HAVE IN THE GUIDE TWENTY TWO THINGS TO DO IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
THERE ARE I MEAN, I HAD TO PUT THE ZOO IN, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I I HAVE LIKE AT FLORIDA TECH, THEY HAVE THE OLD SCHOOLHOUSE THERE, THAT LITTLE RED SCHOOLHOUSE AND THE BOTANICAL GARDENS. I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S THE GRANT HOUSE THAT'S ON ONE U.S.
ONE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE AMAZING THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND SO MY FOCUS IS TO REALLY BRING A LIGHT AND STORY IF THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC, BUT BRING A LIGHT TO PALM BAY AND SOUTH BREVARD COUNTY AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE CITY STAFF TO.
REALLY ENLIGHTENED THAT THE PALM BAY ITEMS THAT PEOPLE COULD DO AND LIKE FOR REALLY, I LIKE TO YOU TO WORK WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH YOU DO ALREADY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THAT BECAUSE I WANT MORE PEOPLE TO COME AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE
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AND TO INCREASE OUR BUSINESS.LOCAL BUSINESS TRAFFIC AND SORT OF PUT PALM BAY ON THE MAP, NOT JUST IN FLORIDA, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I DIDN'T DON'T WANT TO SAY THEY KIND OF LAUGHED AT ME, BUT THERE ISN'T A LOT OF MONEY WITH THE GRANT, SO WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHERE WE LOOK.
SO I WAS THINKING PITTSBURGH, BECAUSE WHEN IT'S COLD AND IT'S JANUARY, FEBRUARY OR MARCH, THIS MIGHT BE THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO LOOK BECAUSE ALLEGIANT HAS A DIRECT FLIGHT HERE. BUT THEY ALSO SAID MAYBE FOCUS ON CHARLOTTE BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE BOTH AMERICAN AIRLINES AND ALLEGIANT BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM FLY OUT OF THAT HUB.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE TOURIST DOLLARS THAT WE GET.
SO I'M HAVING TO WRITE THE GRANT AND THEY KEEP ASKING ME EVERY DAY WHERE MY GRANT IS.
BUT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE FUNDS AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS DOES COME FROM OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND EACH CHAMBER HAS DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE.
BY HAVING THEM SPEAK AT OUR LUNCHEON, I THOUGHT, WHY DON'T WE PARTNER WITH THEM AND SEE IF WE CAN TRY AND BRING SOME TOURISTS DOWN TO PALM BAY? SO WHEN I SAID WE'RE VERY INNOVATIVE, WE REALLY DO TRY AND THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
WE THIS COUNTY HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF TOURISTS TO VISIT.
YES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AND WE ARE IN PALM BAY NEEDS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS THIS, BUT DC'S HOTEL, THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS AND SUITES ON MALABAR ROAD IS THE TOP THREE PERCENT OF ALL HOLIDAY INNS IN THE WORLD, AND THAT'S HERE IN PALM BAY.
AND HE NEVER SHOUTS IT ENOUGH, BUT HE WINS THE THE PRESIDENT AWARD AND HE'S WON IT TWICE.
AND SO FOR A 10 OR 11 YEAR OLD HOTEL TO GET THAT DESIGNATION IS I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S DONE BEFORE, AND HE WOULDN'T REALLY SHOUT ABOUT HIMSELF.
BUT I JUST KEEP THINKING THAT AS THE MOST AMAZING THING TO HAVE A HOTEL HERE IN PALM BAY, THAT'S THE TOP THREE PERCENT IN THE WORLD.
THANK YOU, NEAL. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.
CONGRATULATIONS. I WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION ON LIKE PRIOR PRESENTATION.
I THINK YOU TOOK THE TIME TO REALLY IN GREAT DETAIL, PUT EMPHASIS ON WHAT YOU DO IN TERMS OF THE EVENTS YOU HOLD IN PALM BAY.
I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GENERATE MORE SUPPORT FOR THE CHAMBER.
YOU KNOW, YOU ARE AND YOUR TEAM AND YOUR BOARD DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE ONE OF THE LAST EVENT I WENT ORGANIZED BY THE GREATER CHAMBER OF PALM BAY WAS HELD IN COCO. BUT BUT IT TRULY, TRULY WAS WORLD CLASS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE THE AMBIANCE AND THE SHOW, WHAT YOU GUYS DID, THE MAYORS WHERE YOU HOST ALL THE MAYORS IN BREVARD COUNTY.
AND THAT WAS EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE.
HOW MANY ATTENDEES DID YOU HAVE AT THAT EVENT THAT HOSTED ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND.
ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO PEOPLE, SO, SO REALLY, I WAS TRULY PROUD OF, I SAID, MAN, THIS IS THIS IS ALL CHAMBER.
I MEAN, I WAS SUPER, SUPER PROUD OF THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, TO CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT RECOGNITION YOU HAVE WHERE WHERE ALL CHAMBERS IS AS BEING ONE OF THE OH, WELL, I JUST GOT MY DESIGNATION FOR THE FLORIDA CERTIFIED CHAMBER PROFESSIONAL THAT WAS THROUGH THE FLORIDA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CHAMBER PROFESSIONALS.
IT'S. YEAH, IT'S JUST THE DESIGNATION THAT YOU'D GET AS A CHAMBER AND THEN OUR CHAMBER ACTUALLY ONE FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA, FOR OUR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS, FOR A CHAMBER UNDER FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO I SAID, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE THE THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT YOU GUYS ADD TO YOUR ROSTER ON A REGULAR BASIS, IT'S JUST SUPER, SUPER IMPRESSIVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS NANCY.
OK, THANK YOU. THROUGH DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR MICHAEL YAMAGUCHI.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR.MY NAME IS MIKE YAMAGUCHI AND I'M WITH ADVTECH HOMES 590 MALABAR ROAD SOUTHEAST.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT CONSIDERING RESCINDING ONE OF THE VERY RECENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED BY THE PALM BAY DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT A FEW DAYS AGO.
THAT REQUIREMENT IS TO HAVE A PRIVATE ENGINEER DESIGN AND SIGN OFF ON ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DRAINAGE PLANS AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2021.
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LAST THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH AT 5:01 P.M., AN EMAIL WAS SENT OUT FROM THE DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT TO ALL RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTORS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WITH A LIST OF NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE TO TAKE EFFECT THE NEXT DAY, OCTOBER 1ST.NOW, MOST OF THE ITEMS ON THE LIST WE ALREADY PROVIDE AND THAT INFORMATION IS VERY THOROUGH AND HAS WORKED VERY WELL FOR MANY YEARS TO REQUIRE AN ENGINEER TO DESIGN WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACES AN UNNECESSARY ADDED EXPENSE TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND WILL CAUSE WEEKS OF DELAYS DUE TO THE LACK OF NOTICE.
THIS NEW ENGINEERING REQUIREMENT WILL REQUIRE MANY MAN HOURS TO OUR SURVEYOR OR TO THE ENGINEER TO PROVIDE CITY DRAINAGE INFORMATION IN THE RIGHT WAY THAT THE CITY PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED UP TO SEPTEMBER 30TH.
THIS LARGE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE WILL, OF COURSE, BE PASSED ON TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OVER THE PAST YEAR DAILY PRICE INCREASES ARE THE NORM.
BY REQUIRING US TO BRING ON AN ENGINEER WITH NO NOTICE WILL ALSO CAUSE A SEVERAL WEEK DELAY AS ALL BUILDERS WILL NOW BE SCRAMBLING TO GET THIS PUT INTO PLACE.
AND ULTIMATELY, THERE WILL BE NO DIFFERENCE IN THE SURVEYS WE PRESENTLY SUBMIT.
IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED TO ME IN A MEETING THE OTHER DAY THAT THIS CHANGE WAS BEING MADE, SO THE CITY WAS NO LONGER LIABLE FOR ANY DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT WE RIGHT NOW WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A NOTARIZED AND RECORDED HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE WAS CREATED BY THE CITY, WHICH INDEED DOES RELEASE THE CITY FROM ALL LIABILITY REGARDING DRAINAGE.
THIS NEW ENGINEER REQUIREMENT IS CAUSING A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WORK AND EXPENSE THAT IS UNNECESSARY, AND I HOPE YOU CAN SEE YOUR WAY CLEAR TO RESCIND THIS REQUIREMENT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.
WOULD YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE? YES, SIR. LET'S LET'S HANDLE ONE AT A TIME.
OH, SORRY, MY, MIKE'S NOT ON, I'M SORRY.
I'M GOING TO ASK OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MICHAEL BURAK, TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS CHANGE THAT'S BEING REFERENCED.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, MILPARK PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, FIRST TIME TO THE PODIUM? SO I STARTED WITH THE CITY AROUND TWO MONTHS AGO, AND ONE OF THE FIRST TASKS THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO ME WAS TO REVIEW THE CURRENT RIVER AND DRAINAGE PERMIT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
WHEN I REVIEWED THE PROCESS, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF BACKLOGS AROUND 500 PERMITS TO BE REVIEWED OR TO BE APPROVED AS THEY ARE STILL PENDING WHEN I JOINED.
AND THE MAIN REASON THAT WE FOUND WAS STAFF WERE SPENDING COUNTLESS HOURS IN REVIEWING THE EXISTING DRAINAGE, DOING SURVEY WORK, DOING DESIGN WORK FOR THE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS AND PROVIDING THEM INFORMATION FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT THE FINAL FLOOR ELEVATION ON THEIR PROPERTIES. THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT I KNOW IN WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHERE EVERY MUNICIPALITY REQUIRES THE CONTRACTOR TO SUBMIT A PROFESSIONALLY DESIGNED AND SIGNED AND SEALED PLANS TO THE CITY SO THEY CAN REVIEW AND APPROVE, ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS.
SO WHEN WE REVIEW THIS PROCESS, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE SUBMITTING THIS INFORMATION FOR CITY TO REVIEW, AND WE CAN REVIEW ACCORDINGLY AND PROVIDE THEM PROPER CUSTOMER SERVICE IN A TIMELY MANNER AND NOT HAVE THESE 500 PERMITS BACKLOGS. WE ONLY HAVE STAFF OF THREE PERSONS WHO ARE DOING THIS PARTICULAR WORK AND IN WHAT WE CAN PROMISE OUT OF THIS PROCESS IS A MUCH SHORTER WAITING PERIOD FOR THEM OR TOGETHER ACQUIRING THEIR PERMIT.
IN ADDITION TO THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE ALREADY CHANGED ONE MORE PROCESS WHERE WE HAD TO WAIT FOR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO PROVIDE THEM THEIR APPROVAL.
SO WE ARE WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE OUR PERMITS CONTINGENT UPON OUR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH PERMIT THAT WILL REDUCE THEIR TIME OF WAITING ON THE ON THE CITY'S PART BY SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND FINALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT CITY STAFF PERFORMING DESIGN, SURVEY AND DRAINAGE, WORK FOR A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR IS NOT A FAIR USE OF CITY FUNDS, IN MY OPINION.
SO OUR ENGINEERS WERE DOING THAT WORK? YES, WE HAVE OUR FIELD STAFF, CERTIFIED SURVEYOR THREE SURVEYOR AND OUR ENGINEERING STAFF ARE HELPING REVIEWING DRAINAGE PLANS THAT ARE PREPARED BY GDC LONG TIME AGO AND PROVIDING PIPE SIZES, GRADING FINAL FLOOR ELEVATIONS TO THE CONTRACTORS.
WE HAVE A HUGE BACKLOG AND NOW WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY? YEAH, SO THE PROCESS IS IS BEING CHANGED SO THAT THE DEVELOPER, THE THE CONTRACTOR, IS BEING ASKED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING A COMPLETE PLAN TO US SO THAT WE ARE NOT SITTING OUR STEP OUT IN THE FIELD TO DO SERVING ON THEIR BEHALF OR TO DO ENGINEERING WORK DESIGN WORK ON THEIR BEHALF.
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GOOD, OR HE MIGHT ALREADY HAVE HIS CARD, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WAS THINKING MAYBE THE GENTLEMAN COULD HAVE MR MITCHELL'S CARD IF HE HAD A FURTHER QUESTIONS OR.CERTAINLY, WE CAN HAVE YOU ALL MET, TALKED BEFORE YOU COULD JUST.
WE'RE ASKING ABOUT CONNECTION, HAVE YOU HAVE YOU ALL MET BEFORE? OH, ALL RIGHT. OK, THEY'RE MINE.
ALL RIGHT. OK, THANK YOU, MILDRED.
IS IT FRY, FRY OR? SMELL. COME ON DOWN.
I AM MILDRED FRYE, ONE, 40 60, CORDDRY ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY THREE TWO NINE OH NINE.
LOOK, CARRY ON, MA'AM, I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE THEM LOWER THE PODIUM FOR YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON. I CALLED OVER HERE ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO WANTING TO DISCUSS MY PROBLEM.
AND THEN ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I CALLED OVER HERE AND WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU AND WAS TOLD I COULD NOT, AND I WANTED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH YOU, AND I WAS TOLD I COULD NOT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE IN PERSON.
I BROUGHT SOME PICTURES TO SHOW YOU.
I LIVE RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF DAY CORDERY, A RIGHT ACROSS FROM AND TO QUERO.
AND YOU ALL HAVE A CULVERT COMING FROM THAT SIDE TO MS..
OR CORNER AND IT WHEN IT RAINS AND EVERYTHING, IT'S A REAL BIG BAD MESS.
WATER COMES UP REALLY, REALLY HIGH.
AND WHICH HAS CAUSED CRACKS AND MORE CRACKS AND DIRT COMES FROM YOUR DITCH.
AND IT HAS FILLED UP MY CULVERT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT HAS RAISED UP THINGS AND EVERYTHING ANYWAYS.
MAY I SHOW YOU THESE? THE PASS IS ON THEM IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO GO BACK TO.
I. I'M GOING TO PASS THESE ON, MILDRED, TO OUR CITY MANAGER.
DIRT HAS COME, COME, COME AND FILLED UP MY CULVERT, AND SO THEREFORE THEN THE WATER HAS LIFTED UP MY DRIVEWAY AND IT MADE THE BIG CRACK AND THEN THERE'S MORE CRACKS AND EVERYTHING. SO IT'S A IT'S A REAL BIG PROBLEM.
OH, I WONDERED, WHAT IF YOU ALL COULD DO SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET THERE ON AND TO QUERO AT THE CORNER? YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE'S A DITCH BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SO MANY TALL WEEDS AND BUSHES AND EVERYTHING.
ALTHOUGH THE TRACTOR DID COME A DAY OR TWO AGO AND CUT THAT, BUT WHAT THEY DO, THEY CUT IT AND JUST LET EVERYTHING GO IN THE DITCH, WHICH GETS IN THE CULVERTS AND EVERYTHING.
SO. SO, MADAM FREY, I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF, MA'AM, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE THREE THREE MINUTES.
I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS, THAT THERE'S A FEW THINGS.
THE FIRST THING IS I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO MEET WITH ANYONE.
SO ANY, ANY ANY INFORMATION YOUR SECRETARY WOULD NOT LET ME SPEAK TO YOU OR MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO COME IN AND TALK TO YOU AND SHOW YOU THERE.
AND SO I PASSED ON THE INFORMATION, BUT I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO MEET WITH ANYONE UNLESS IT'S QUASI JUDICIAL.
BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THAT I'VE.
I'VE PUBLICLY SAID THAT MADAM SHERMAN, IS THERE SOME DIRECTION SO THAT WE CAN? I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO WHEN I CALLED HERE FIRST LEFT A MESSAGE AND THEN THREE DAYS LATER, I DID NOT GET A RETURN.
SO THREE DAYS LATER, WHEN I CALLED AGAIN, THE LADY TOLD ME, OH, I'M GOING TO FIX UP THIS
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PAPER NOW, SO A MAN WILL COME OUT AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.BUT NO ONE NEVER CAME OR I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, AND THAT WAS AT THE END OF MAY BACK THEN. SO DO WE.
DO WE HAVE MRS FRY OR MS. FRY'S ADDRESS? I WROTE IT DOWN FROM ONE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE ABOUT A MILE FROM HERE AND MADAM FRONT, WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THIS.
AND MAYOR, IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO PASS THESE ALONG TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND ABSOLUTELY ASK HIM TO GET CONTACT INFORMATION FOR MS. FREY. BUT WELL, WE'LL GET WE'LL GET YOU TAKEN CARE OF, MA'AM.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MR. BILL BRATTON, FOLLOWED BY RENO OLSZEWSKI.
ROBERT, IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, I HAVE FOUR ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
FIRST, I WENT TO CITY CLERK, THEN I WENT TO CITY MANAGER AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT IF ANY OF ILLEGALS COMING ACROSS THE BORDER WERE BEING CURRENTLY BUSSED OR SHIPPED OR FLOWN INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND IF THEY WERE, WHERE WERE THEY BEING PUT UP? AS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.
BUT I DIDN'T GET A RECALL BACK OR AN ANSWER BACK, AND SOMETIMES THINGS FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT ME BEING THE PERSON I AM SINCE, I DIDN'T GET A RESULT BY ASKING, SO NOW I'M ASKING MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IF THEY KNOW OF ANY ILLEGALS BEING BUSSED INTO THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND ANY OF THEM BEING BUSSED OR FLOWN IN TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND IF THEY ARE, WHERE ARE THEY BEING PUT UP OR HOUSED? SO THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
SECOND QUESTION IS, CAN ANYBODY LET ME KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS OF THE DATES FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION OR WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND WITH THAT? OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OFF LONG ENOUGH AND IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN ONE YEAR AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT PLAN WAS.
ME, BEING A DOUBTING TOM, I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PLOY IS RIGHT FOR A THIRD ITEM.
WHEN YOU COME THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR OR THE WEAPON DETECTOR, WHEN YOU'RE COMING INTO CITY CHAMBERS, WHEN IT RAINS, THAT TABLE IS WET.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY I NEED TO PROTECT MY PAPERWORK BECAUSE AS YOU JUST SAW, I HAVE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A RUINED.
BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN WHEN IT'S A HARD RAIN OUT THERE, THOSE POOR POLICE OFFICERS, THERE IS REALLY NO SHELTER WHEN IT'S RAINING HARD OUT THERE.
SO IF WE CAN GET A SHELTER THAT SOMEWHAT PROTECTS THEM, THAT WILL ALSO PROTECT THE TABLE, WHICH WILL PROTECT MY PAPERWORK.
AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR NOVEMBER 11TH IS VETERANS DAY, AND I SAW THAT THERE WAS A VETERANS DAY PARADE PLANNED.
I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT BECAUSE I LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO TO THIS PARADE.
IT'S SOMETHING I BELIEVE IN AND WHO IS THE ORGANIZER OR THE FUNDRAISER FOR THAT? SO I COULD FIND A MECHANISM TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN ON THE TABLE FOR THE PARADE, IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW THAT ANSWER.
AND SINCE IT'S ON A THURSDAY, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF THAT PARADE IS GOING TO BE ON A WEEKEND OR IS IT GOING TO BE ON ACTUALLY VETERANS DAY, SATURDAY, NOVEMBER SIX, SIR? BUT WE'LL ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM THE TOP? YES, SIR. IT SPOOKED MR. BATTEN TODAY ABOUT THE REQUEST OR QUESTION REGARDING IMMIGRANTS BEING BUSSED IN.
I ADVISED HIM, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT HAPPENING, AND CERTAINLY THERE'S NO AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NO CITY INVOLVEMENT, IF THAT IS IF THAT IS HAPPENING.
I APPRECIATE THE IDEA FOR THE SHELTER OUT HERE, FOR THE THE TEAM AND ALSO THE METAL DETECTOR AREA. SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH PARKS, FACILITIES, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? AND CORRECT ME AS THE AMERICAN LEGION INVOLVED IN THE PARADE AT ALL.
IS LET ME YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A LOCATION THAT YOU COULD DONATE TO FOR THE PARADE, SO I'LL ASK FRED. THE PARADE IS ACTUALLY BEING ORGANIZED BY BY THE CITY, OUR DEPARTMENTS DOING THAT.
THE LEGION IS IS A PART OF IT AS AS OUR OTHER VETERANS, ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE.
SO I TOLD MR. BATTEN HE COULD GET TOGETHER WITH US AND WE COULD WE COULD WORK, WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS. THANK YOU.
AND THEN A QUESTION NUMBER TWO, WOULD THAT BE TERRY? HE'S HE'S REFERRING TO THE SPECIAL ELECTIONS.
YES, YES, MAYOR. WE DID HEAR FROM THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS AND I BELIEVE THE DATE IS MARCH 8TH, BUT IT WILL BE OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED BY RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
SO WE HAVE TO PASS A RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT OUR SUPERVISOR ELECTION IS STATING AS MARCH FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION AND THEN ONCE THAT'S ESTABLISHED THAT WE CAN HAVE THE
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SPECIAL ELECTION. SO THAT'LL BE NEXT NEXT MEETING BY RESOLUTION.NEXT, SPEAKER. RIGHT, OLSZEWSKI, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR DELGADO.
AND COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT, BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.
I PREFER THIS SECTION A LOT MORE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE I GET TO GO A LITTLE MORE FREELANCE, SO I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I DO AND I'M GOING TO LEAD WITH GRATITUDE.
SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE MAGICAL FAIRY THAT FOUND A 96 GALLON RECYCLE BIN SHORTLY AFTER I CAME UP HERE ON THIS PODIUM AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND DELIVERED IT TO MY HOUSE WITHOUT MAKING A BEAT, AND I WAS THERE ALL DAY WORKING.
SO THANKS, I SUPPOSE, THAT THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE.
BUT REMEMBER, MY CONCERN IS FOR MY COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SO I'M VERY HAPPY.
JUST HAD A PARTY THIS PAST WEEKEND, MAN, DID THOSE CANS FIT RIGHT IN THAT NICE BIN AND WE RECYCLED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
YOU CAN ASK MY BUDDIES ABOUT THAT.
SO GRATITUDE, ADDITIONAL GRATITUDE IS TO THE FOUR GENTLEMEN THAT MAKE UP THIS COUNCIL CURRENTLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND CARRYING ON AS A FOUR MEMBER BODY AND FOR TAKING THAT ON AND GRATITUDE TO MR BATTEN FOR BRINGING UP WHERE I WAS GOING.
I WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT THE SPECIAL ELECTION STATUS, SO I WILL SHARE MY SLIGHT DISAPPOINTMENT TO HEAR THAT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS IS INDICATING IT'S GOING TO BE MARCH BECAUSE ALL INDICATIONS WERE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE DECEMBER TO JANUARY TO FEBRUARY.
AND HERE WE ARE IN MARCH. SO THAT'S DISAPPOINTING.
BUT HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT GRATITUDE, RIGHT? SO ANOTHER THING I'M GRATEFUL FOR IS MY PHYSICAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE, YOU KNOW, YOUR HEALTH IS EVERYTHING, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON MY PHYSICAL HEALTH. I'VE BEEN OUT HERE RUNNING. I'VE BEEN RUNNING THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.
I RUN PAST THE CITY HALL EVERY SINGLE MORNING.
I WAVE, HI TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S NOT AT WORK YET.
I WATCH THE TRAFFIC GO BY AND WHILE I DO THAT, I RUN OUT ONTO MALABAR ROAD AT MY INTERSECTION OF MALABAR AND ELKHORN, WHICH JUST HAD A SIGNAL SPAN.
NOW, WHEN WE LOOK IN DOCUMENTS AND RECORDS AND MY RESEARCH ABILITY DOESN'T HOLD TO MR. BATONS AT ALL, SO FORGIVE ME.
BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'VE DEDUCED IS THAT THE FUNDING FOR THAT WRISTBAND WAS SECURED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020, AND THE PROJECT WAS JUST PERFORMED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK SO LONG, BUT WHATEVER THEY CAME OUT AND DID IT PRICE FOR THAT PROJECT? FORTY THOUSAND SO APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS AGO, THEY MADE LIGHT WORK OF DOING THE PROJECT OVER THE COURSE OF TWO OR THREE DAYS.
AND THEN THEY LEFT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT WAS THERE WHEN THEY WERE GONE? ALL THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, ALL THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN PILES ON THE SIDES OF THE INTERSECTION.
AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST THREE WEEKS, THE PILES HAVE BEEN RUMMAGED THROUGH AND PICKED THROUGH BY CITIZENS WHO PROBABLY WANT TO MAKE A REALLY COOL MAN CAVE SET UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT, SO IT'S ABOUT HALF OF THE VOLUME THAT IT WAS.
BUT THE REMNANTS OF IT, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF THAT INTERSECTION, ARE LITERALLY FALLING INTO THE DITCH.
THERE'S FRAGMENTS OF METAL SHARDS, KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL AND THERE'S TWO CONES ON EACH CORNER. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
FURTHERMORE, IT'S UNACCEPTABLE BECAUSE IN THE PROPOSAL FOR THE WRISTBANDS THAT I SAW FOR THE INTERSECTION AT ELGIN AND BAYSIDE LAKES AND THE ONE THAT WAS CHANGED FROM MALABAR AND EMERSON THAT THERE'S A SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX DOLLARS FEE IN THE CONTRACTOR'S PROPOSAL FOR REMOVAL OF WASTE.
SO AFTER THREE WEEKS, WHY IS THE WASTE STILL SITTING THERE? AND AT WHAT POINT IS THE CITY JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME INITIATIVE? SEND SOME FOLKS FROM PUBLIC WORKS THERE, CLEAN IT UP AND DELETE THAT FEE AGAIN? CONTRACTS. WHAT DELIVERABLES AND TIMETABLES DO WE HAVE WHEN WE GET IN THESE CONTRACTS WITH THESE FOLKS THAT THEY NEED TO DELIVER THE GOODS AND THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR AS CONSENT? EIGHT SHOWED, HAS A CONTRACT WORTH ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR. THAT WAS ONLY 40000 OF IT.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S UP. THANK YOU, RANDALL.
YOU SAID THREE WEEKS HAS BEEN OUT THERE.
YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, THIS PAST TUESDAY WOULD MARK THREE WEEKS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THEIR PROJECT, AND THEY DID THE WRISTBAND ON ABOUT A TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.
THEY LEFT, AND ABOUT A WEEK AGO, THEY CAME BACK TO DO THE CROSSWALK INDICATORS.
THE WALK DON'T WALK AND THEY PUT THOSE ON THE HEAT.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN REDUCE THE VOLUME.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S REDUCED TO VOLUME IS HOW LONG WAS IT THERE? THE STUFF IS STILL THERE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? SINCE THREE WEEKS AGO, TUESDAY, TWO WEEKS AGO, IT'S ABOUT TWENTY THREE DAYS, APPROXIMATELY. THANK YOU.
THAT IS SET. MADAM SHERMAN, IF WE COULD GET WITH THAT CONTRACTOR, BUT EVEN MORE SO, WE SHOULD SOMEHOW.
I FOLLOWED UP, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE HELD TO THAT CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, THREE WEEKS. YOU KNOW, WE WE SAW THERE THERE WERE COMPLETE.
I'M CERTAIN WE SAW THAT WORD COMPLETE AND WE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP.
YES, I'M CERTAINLY THIS IS SOMETHING NEW TO ME TO HEAR TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR LOOK INTO WHERE THAT PROJECT IS AT.
I NEED TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE I CAN SPEAK KNOWLEDGEABLY ON IT.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR INVOLVED IN THAT WORK, SO WE'LL WE'LL LOOK INTO IT TOMORROW. AND RANDALL MAYOR ROB MEDINA AT PBF L DAWG, YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON A
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DIME. JUST SEND. RIGHT, SIR.I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
KEN DELGADO, ONE, FIVE, FOUR ZERO SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, AND I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE I CAN'T BEAT THESE LAST TWO PEOPLE, THEY'RE JUST TOO GOOD.
I'M JUST GOING TO COVER JUST THE THOUGHT THAT JUST REALLY BOTHERS ME.
THERE WAS A COIN THAT JESUS BROUGHT UP AND AND I DON'T HAVE A COIN, SO I GRABBED A FIVE DOLLAR BILL AND HE SAID IT GIVE TO PALM BAY WHAT I MEAN GIVE TO CAESAR, WHAT BELONGS TO CAESAR AND GIVE TO GOD WHAT BELONGS TO GOD.
AND THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL IMAGE OF OF UNDERSTANDING GIVING CREDIT TO WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
INCIDENTALLY, IF YOU NEED FIVE DOLLARS FOR THE VETERANS, I'D BE HAPPY TO GO AHEAD AND DONATE THE $5 FOR THE VETERANS.
BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER COIN THAT JESUS SPEAKS ABOUT IN JOHN 10:10.
HE SAYS IT IS THE THIEF THAT COMES TO STEAL, KILL AND DESTROY.
BUT I HAVE COME TO GIVE LIFE AND LIFE IN ABUNDANCE, AND I JUST WANT TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP IN REFERENCE TO THE CHARACTER OF GOD.
BECAUSE I THINK SO MANY TIMES, EVEN ON INSURANCE POLICIES, THEY BLAME GOD FOR SOMETHING THAT GOD DID NOT DO.
JESUS CHRIST IS THE EPITOME AND THE EXPRESSED DESIRE AND WILL OF GOD.
AND HE SAYS, I CAME TO GIVE LIFE AND LIFE IN ABUNDANCE.
HE DIDN'T SAY I DIDN'T COME TO STEAL.
CAN DESTROY, SAYS THE THIEF DOES THAT.
AND SO I NOTICED THAT IN THE LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST, HE NEVER SAID, I'M SENDING THIS STORM AS PUNISHMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE SAYING GOD SENDING THAT STORM AS PUNISHMENT.
AND YET THE ONLY THE ONLY THING JESUS DID WITH STORMS WAS STOP THEM.
HE NEVER SAID, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS YOUNG CHILD TO HEAVEN BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THEM IN HEAVEN. NO. IF HE WENT TO A FUNERAL, HE USED TO BE MESSED UP THE FUNERAL, BUT BY BRINGING THEM TO LIFE.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP JUST FOR A MINUTE THE CHARACTER OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST DIDN'T COME TO CONDEMN THE WORLD JESUS DIDN'T COME TO TO POINT THE FINGER TO THE WORLD.
HE CAME TO GIVE LIFE AND LIFE MORE ABUNDANTLY.
JESUS SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS LIFE, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR UP ANY, ANY, ANY SUGGESTION THAT IN SOME WAY, FORM OR FASHION THAT GOD IS IN COVET THAT GOD IS IN DISASTERS, THAT GOD IS IN STORMS, THAT GOD IS IN KILLING PEOPLE OR TAKING THEM WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG. THAT IS NOT THE CHARACTER OF GOD.
HE SAID I CAME TO GIVE LIFE AND LIFE IN ABUNDANCE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT LIFE AND LIFE IN ABUNDANCE THAT GOD WANTS FOR YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THAT TIME.
I GET THE PHONE CALLS FOR I GIVE IT TO YOU.
SO THAT WOULD GET US IN TROUBLE PASSING.
WE CAN'T TAKE, WE CAN'T TAKE THAT.
SO THAT THAT ENDS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON COUNCILMAN, I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
OK, WE ARE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AS YOU WERE.
THIS MEETING WILL NOW CONTINUE.
WISHFUL THINKING THERE, MR. MAYOR. WISHFUL THINKING.
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NUMBER ONE MADAM SMITH ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH.FIFTY FOUR AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING REGULATIONS SECTION TWENTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION C.
ADOPTION OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MADAME SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MARY. NO, AS THIS IS FINAL READING, NO FURTHER CHANGES UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. ALSO, YOU GOT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS FINAL READING? AND HE SPOKE OUT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, OK, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED BOARD IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH 50 FOR FINAL READING, I CAN ADD
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A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR.
AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE, PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NOS.
TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX AND SEVEN.
ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MASONIC SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.
ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSED IN THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.
ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.
ALSO, TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. ALL OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLY WITH SECTION FIFTY NINE POINT ZERO THREE. THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES PER WITNESS.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THESE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.
HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED, AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
ERIC COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME PRESENT HIS CASE.
I KNOW I'VE BEEN SPEAKING QUITE A BIT, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE, MA'AM.
AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS CYPRESS BAY WEST.
PHASE TWO AND PUDDY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF ALOMA BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF DAVIS LANE, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MAN. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD AND PRESENT THIS CASE.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MADAM CHAIR, MY NAME IS CHRIS TYREE, DIVISION PRESIDENT OF FOSTER CENTRAL FLORIDA REGION.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT CYPRESS BAY WEST PHASE TO FINALLY DEVELOP PLAYING SECOND READING.
IT'S OUR PUDI OF A TOTAL OF 500 570 UNITS, WHICH ARE 446 OR SINGLE FAMILIES AND ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FOUR TOWNHOMES.
WE, WE ARE, APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND HAVE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AGREE WITH STAT'S COMMENTS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? KURT MR., BILL BATTEN.
WOOLVERTON, FIVE, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
RIGHT. THE FIRST ONE MIGHT BE IN THE DOUBTING TOM THAT I AM AND CONTINUALLY WATCHING THESE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE I DO ON PAGE THREE HUNDRED OF YOUR PACKET.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, MY QUESTION IS IF THE CITY DOES NOT INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE LINES FEEDING THESE DEVELOPERS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE GOING TO STOP OR BE SUSTAINED AT THE POINT OF WHICH THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY CURRENTLY AT? OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE ALL ON HOLD BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE? SOME OF THOSE ALREADY HAPPENED, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE TO BE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THESE MAINS.
BECAUSE THE NAMES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ALSO HAPPENED TO BE SOME OF THE SAME NAMES THAT APPEAR ON THIS AUDIT.
THAT'S WHY I BRING STATEMENTS LIKE THIS UP TO TAXPAYERS.
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RESIDENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAD THINGS PAID FOR BY DEVELOPERS AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.AND WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT THE AUDIT AND WE DIDN'T EVEN PAY TO GET THE ACTUAL FORENSIC AUDIT DID NOT HAPPEN NOW, SO WE MAY NEVER KNOW THE ACTUAL NAMES.
SO BE IT. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU VOTED ON.
BUT THE NAMES ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT'S ITEM TWO, THREE AND FOUR. THEIR NAMES ALSO APPEAR VISITING WITHIN THIS WITHIN THE TWO CHAMBERS RIGHT NOW.
SO IF WE DO NOTHING, THEIR DEVELOPMENT STOPS, WE HAD THEIR WORDS, THINGS WERE GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THEY GOT STUFF FROM THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.
SO. I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT THE NAMES THAT GOT US TO THE THROUGH THE AUDIT ARE ALSO THE NAMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE NAMES.
I'LL BE NICE AND SOMEWHAT RESPECTFUL, BUT THEIR NAMES ARE THERE.
IF IT'S HAPPENED ONCE, IT MIGHT HAPPEN AGAIN.
I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
AND THE LAST THING IS WHEN YOU SAY YOU WERE NOT PRESENT, THIS WAS NOT THE COUNCIL BILL BATTEN WAS, AND I WAS ADDRESSING IT WHOLE HEARTEDLY TO MY GOVERNMENT.
YOU MIGHT NOT BE THE ONES THAT WERE PRESENT, BUT THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, TO THE TO MY GOVERNMENT.
AND THEN TO SAY, WELL, THAT'S TOO LATE, BILL, IT JUST IT'S JUST A STICK IN MY CRAW A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS PRESENT AT THOSE BOATS AND IT WAS BILL BATON.
SO WHEN I BRING THIS OUT, IT'S NOT LIKE I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
I WANT TO SPEAK. ADAM SHERMAN.
WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD, BUT TO ADDRESS MR. BEN'S COMMENT, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HAVE OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR CHRIS LYTTLE, COME UP AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW.
WE'RE WORKING WITH MANY DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS, AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A PROCESS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE AND RUNNING THE LINES WHERE THEY NEED TO RUN THEM. HOW LARGE THEY ARE.
AND WE FOR SPECIFIC AREAS, CHRIS CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE THE THE SIZE, THE DEVELOPER, THE RUN, SOME IS REQUIRED TO UPSIZE THEM FOR THE VARIOUS AREAS.
SO I WAS LOOKING IN THE PACKET, I DIDN'T FIND THE SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO THE WHETHER IT WAS WATER MAY OR FORCE MAIN.
REGARDLESS, WE ARE WORKING WITH THREE PRIMARY DEVELOPERS IN THAT REGION AND THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE OBLIGATIONS UPON THE DEVELOPER IN ORDER TO HAVE PROPER SERVICE TO THEIR TO THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.
PART OF THAT IS A MAINLINE EXTENSION FOR SEWER FROM THE END, THE BAYSIDE LAKES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR GROUND STORAGE TANKS TO SUPPORT THAT WHOLE REGION, AND THEY WILL PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.
THERE ARE SOME UPSIZING REQUIREMENTS NOT RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WHERE WE WOULD LOOK TO GIVE THEM IMPACT FEE CREDITS, BUT IT WILL BE BASED ON WHAT THEY NEED VERSUS WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO SUPPORT THE WHOLE REGION.
THANK YOU ANY ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL OF STAFF IN UN CARRY ON MS. THE LITTLE. NO, NO.
NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS WITH THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT FORWARD. YES, SIR.
GOOD QUESTIONS, MR BILL, AND I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERNS.
FOR STARTERS, NOT A PART OF ANY OF THE NAMES THAT ARE, I THINK WERE SPOKEN OF IN THE PAST OR TONIGHT WERE NEW DEVELOPER TO PALM BAY.
LIKE I TOLD THE MAYOR AND DURING THE BREAK, WE'VE CURRENTLY WILL INVEST OR HAVE INVESTED ABOUT $84 MILLION AT THE END OF WHAT WAS CALLED A ROAD TO NOWHERE.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A CURRENTLY ACTIVE PROJECT THAT WHAT WE CALL CYBERSPACE EAST, WHICH IS AROUND 300 JUST UNDER 400 HOMES, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY HALFWAY SOLD OUT.
LOT SALES RIGHT NOW, HOMES ARE ACTIVELY GOING UP, AND I HEARD EARLIER NIGHT ABOUT MANUFACTURING AND BRINGING, YOU KNOW, BEDS TO PALM BAY, WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING FOR NOT ONLY FOR FOUR PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE, BUT ALSO BUILD COMMUNITIES AND BUILD A DESTINATION AT THE END OF A ROAD TO NOWHERE.
SO IT ACTUALLY IS A ROAD TO SOMEWHERE NOW.
SO WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE INVESTED IN AND INVESTED IN THE CITY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND KIND OF PIGGYBACK ONTO WHAT MR LITTLE SAYS.
WE HAVE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
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WE WORK WITH CHRIS LYTTLE RIGHT NOW AND SEVERAL UTILITY AGREEMENTS RIGHT NOW.WE'VE ALREADY PREPAID $800000 IN SARTRE'S BAY WEST FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR UTILITY FEES, UTILITY CONNECTIONS, AND WE'VE ALREADY PAID $700000 WITH PHASE ONE IN OUR SUBURBS EAST PROJECT ACTUALLY FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT.
SORRY. WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH CRYSTAL STAFF TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND TO IMPROVE UTILITIES ALREADY EXISTING AND ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH CHRIS, STAFF AND ALSO JAKE AND OTHER SIMILAR DEVELOPERS TO EXTEND THE MAINS TO THESE PROJECTS TO SERVICE THEM.
SO THAT IS ON OUR BACK OF OUR DOLLARS.
AND SO THERE'S ALSO SOME PROBABLY SHARE DEVELOPERS EXPENSE AND ALSO SOME SOME STUFF WITH THE CITY AS WELL. AS FAR AS ROADS, WE'VE BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING WITH SUZANNE STAFF AND JOAN ON DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS FOR PROPORTIONAL SHARE AGREEMENTS FOR TRAFFIC.
AND ALSO WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED SOME SECTIONS OF BABCOCK ROAD ALREADY WITH OUR FIRST PHASE CYPRESS BAY, OUR EAST WORKS.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BUILD THIS COMMUNITY AND ALSO EXPAND.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE GROUND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THESE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE JUST MET TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE, AND WHEN YOU MADE THAT COMMENT, I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
I DIDN'T MEET WITH YOU PRIOR TO TODAY.
CORRECT. WELL, AND THE MAYOR'S ADD ON TO WHAT MAYOR SAID.
WE LIKE I TOLD HIM WE WE WERE MADE THIS INVESTMENT IN THIS PROJECT BEFORE THE ROAD WAS EVEN FINISHED. SO IT'S IT'S WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY PLEASED TO BE HERE.
SIR, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
SO. NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, COUNSEL.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE.
YOU GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON THINKING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SO, YOU KNOW, I'M CALLING TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE OR IT IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE SIXTY SIX, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS GARDENS AT WATER STONE PHASE TWO AND PUDI PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO THE MELBOURNE TILLMANN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL.
THIRTY EIGHT IN THE VICINITY WEST OF MYELOMA ALOMA BOULEVARD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HERE IN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
NOW OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, THIS ADDRESS IS TWENTY SIX, FIFTY ONE WEST OJELEYE BOULEVARD. THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED A FEW MINUTES AGO. IT'S PART OF THE ALREADY APPROVED MASTERPLAN FOR ALL OF WATER STONE.
THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE OF A THREE PHASE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
PHASE ONE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
MARYLAND BOULEVARD AS PART OF THE PROJECT IS EXTENDED BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER.
PHASE THREE IS RIGHT BEHIND IT.
IT'S ALREADY IN FOR PERMITTING FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL.
IT'S DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THIS ONE, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE BACK HERE SOON BEFORE YOU WITH THAT ONE. THE PROJECT INCLUDES ROADS ALL BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS, BUT WILL NOT BE THE BURDEN OF THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THEY'LL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HEYA.
WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON THIS PROJECT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ATTENDEES.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ON THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WITH A LOT OF ATTENTION, A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
AND I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'VE HOPEFULLY HAVE GOT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS.
THEY'RE HAPPY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY WEREN'T AT THIS ONE.
THE PROJECT PROVIDES AMPLE RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE.
IT'S SHARING SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WERE DONE IN PHASE ONE.
IT HAS DIFFERENT VARYING LOT SIZES.
ALSO IN THIS PROJECT, P AND Z UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO GIVE A SPECIFIC TIME DATE CERTAIN THAT WE WILL HAVE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONSTRUCTED AS A CONDITION OF THIS PROJECT'S APPROVAL.
THAT'S AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND A LOT OF WORK WITH BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT SECTION OF BABCOCK STREET IS THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH THE SUPPORT OF STAFF FOR THE PROJECT.
THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN'T ANSWER, AND WITH THAT IT'S GETTING LATE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO STEP DOWN AND APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU DO AGREE TO ALL OF STAFF'S COMMENTS.
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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. BUT NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.OR ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL.
THE MANAM SHERMAN. I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO ADD, MAYOR, SO TO TO MR. WISE'S POINT, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO COME UP AND DISCUSS AND PUT ON THE RECORD WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO WITH THE DEVELOPER REGARDING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THE TIMING. SO THAT WILL BE AN UPDATE TO WHAT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, JUST FOR THE RECORD. IT'S A CONDITION OF THE OCCUPATION.
EHUD BARAK, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WE HAVE A REVISION TO OUR COMMENT, ONE OF THE COMMENTS FOR THE PERMANENT TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO OUR NEW COMMENT IS, OR A GREAT COMMENT IS A PERMANENT TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITH M.
ARMS SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED AND OPERATIONAL PRIOR TO APRIL 30TH, 2023 AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARYLAND AND BOULEVARD AND BABCOCK STREET.
THE DEVELOPER WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL APPROVED NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022, AND THE DEVELOPER WILL PROVIDE A BOND BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 TO COVER THE COST FOR THE SIGNAL INSTALLATION IN CASE THESE DEADLINES ARE NOT.
THANK YOU. LET'S SPEAK, OF COURSE, ON THIS. OK.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? MR. WEISS. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD IS WE APPRECIATE STAFF WORKING WITH US ON THAT, THAT IS WELL AHEAD OF THE ACTUAL TIME FRAME THAT THE WARRANT STUDY WANTED OR RECOMMENDED THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO BE INSTALLED, BUT WE WANTED TO GET IT IN AS SOON AS WE COULD.
IT JUST TAKES A LONG TIME TO GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS.
AND RIGHT NOW, THINGS LIKE MAST ARMS JUST TAKE A VERY LONG TIME, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AS FAST AS WE CAN.
OUR GOAL IS TO FAR EXCEED THOSE DATES.
OUR EXPECTATION IS TO BE AHEAD OF THAT AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS FAST AS WE CAN.
THE DESIGN IS ALREADY COMPLETE AND THE CITY HAS EVEN AGREED TO HELP US TRY TO MOVE THINGS AS FAST AS WE COULD THROUGH PERMITTING WITH THE COUNTY AND THEM.
SO WE'RE EXCITED AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS SAFE AS WE CAN, AS QUICK AS WE CAN FOR THAT WHOLE REGION IN THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WISE. DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION? OK, AS YOU CARRY ON? THANK YOU FOR WHAT? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE SIXTY SIX THAT INCLUDES STAFF COMMENTS, INCLUDING THE ONES JUST STATED THREE MINUTES AGO.
SO I CAN I GOT I GOT THIS READING FIRST READ.
THERE YOU GO. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WHICH WAS PRETTY ASTUTE AND SINGING MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? IN NONE, I'M CALLING TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT FIFTY FIVE.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TASB PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS CYPRESS BAY WEST.
PHASE THREE AND PUDDY PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITIES WEST ABOUT PRATT STREET AND MARUYAMA BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF WILLOWBROOK STREET, LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THAT EVENING, COUNCILMAN MADAM CHAIR AGAIN, CHRIS TYREE, DIVISION PRESIDENT OF FOUR STAR CENTRAL FLORIDA DIVISION.
THIS IS THE AGAIN CYBERSPACE WEST PHASE THREE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WHICH BASICALLY SOLIDIFIES OUR PURCHASE AND WRAPS UP OUR LAST PHASE OF OUR MASTER PLAN, EVEN THOUGH AND YOU'LL SEE ME HERE IN THE FUTURE FOR A FUN DEVELOP PLAN.
THIS PARTICULAR PHASE HAS 520 FOR SINGLE FAMILIES.
WE HAVE A MIXTURE OF 50 AND 60 FOOT LOTS PROGRAM FOR THIS PHASE OF CYBERSPACE WEST.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A PROGRAMING FOR OUR AMENITIES OR OPEN SPACE FLEX FIELDS FOR FLAG FOOTBALL SOCCER HAVE SOME BASKETBALL COURTS PROGRAMED HAVE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WALKING TRAILS THAT WILL INTEGRATE ALSO INTO THE REST OF OUR SUBURBS, BAYWATCH PROGRAM AND AMENITY COMPLEXES.
AND ALSO ANOTHER OPEN AIR CABANA, WHICH WE HAVE PROGRAM FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THIS PROJECT KIND OF COMPLETES OUR MASTER PLAN.
WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED AGAIN, BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS ONE AS WELL, AND I AGREE WITH
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ALL THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL.THANK YOU. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNCILMAN.
HE. ADAM SHERMAN, ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD FROM SETH? NOTHING ADDITIONAL, SIR. THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCILMAN.
HEY, I'M I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ASK COUNSEL FOR A.
MOTION, A MOTION APPROVED CASE, PDD THIRTY TWO, DASH TWENTY TWENTY ONE, SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT BEING ADDRESSED UPON SUBMISSION OF A FINAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ON THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, AS UNANIMOUSLY WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT SIXTY SEVEN.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY FIVE ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING TREE AND LANDSCAPE BUSINESSES AS A CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN LIE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE DISTRICT ZONING, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
DON'T OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD OR PRESENT THEIR CASE.
WILLIAM ALCOCK, 10 SOUTH CAUGHT IN THE ATLANTIC.
I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNERS, MICHAEL AND LIESL GRAHAM OF.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO START UP A RECYCLING, LAND CLEARING RECYCLING BUSINESS.
THEY WERE LOOKING AROUND VARIOUS PLACES AND PALM BAY MS. WHERE THEY WANT IT TO BE.
HOWEVER, PALM BAY CODE DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT USE.
WE LOOKED AT CITY OF MELBOURNE AND IN CITY OF MELBOURNE, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALLOWED FOR THE RECYCLING.
SO WE'VE MET WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS THIS, AND THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF AMENDING THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR THIS USE WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH FOUR CONDITIONS UNDER CONDITIONAL USE. AND WE'VE LOOKED WE'VE READ THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY'VE DRAFTED AND IF WE FIND IT TO BE ACCEPTABLE.
THANK YOU, GENERAL COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNCILMAN FOSTER? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, SIR.
YOU SAID YOU MET WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
EVERYBODY WE WE MET WITH THEM BECAUSE THEIR CODE ALLOWS FOR IT, BUT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE IN PALM BAY, NOT IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
OK, AND WE WE USE THE CITY OF MELBOURNE CODE TO WORK WITH STAFF HERE TO SHOW THAT IT'S ACCEPTABLE. MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ALLOW FOR IT AS WELL.
SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THE REFERENCE TO CITY OF MELBOURNE.
OK, I UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU.
YEAH. IN OTHER WORDS, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CODE.
THANK YOU, SIR. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD.
NO, SIR. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THIS ONE.
ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? HE WENT IN, THE AUDIENCE, SWITCHED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, MASTER CHIEF, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. THAT'S CHIEF BECK.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST FIRST, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THEY LOOK TO SEE WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR BUSINESS IN PALM BAY THAT NO ONE, THAT'S THE BEST THING OUT OF THIS.
NUMBER TWO, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PACKAGE AND I SAW THIS FANCY EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON USING HOW IT WORKS, I WISH IT WAS PARKED AT MY FARM RIGHT NOW.
I JUST SPENT A CHUNK OF MONEY WITH TREE REMOVAL ON MY PROPERTY, AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAD ALL THAT, ALL THAT CAPABILITY TO JUST HAVE BRIDLE PATHS LINED IN MULCH.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.
BUT WITH THAT, I WAS CURIOUS AND I ACTUALLY CONTACTED THEM AND THEY WERE NICE ENOUGH TO CALL ME BACK. AND AND BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO SAY, IS THERE A MECHANISM BY WHICH RESIDENTS OR LOCAL PEOPLE WITH TREES LIKE MINE, WHICH WAS THOUSANDS OF POUNDS GONE TO THE LANDFILL THAT THEY COULD UTILIZE OR HAVE MECHANISM TO DROP IT OFF WITH THEM?
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AND THEY SAID THEY AREN'T TO THAT POINT YET OF SITING HOW THEY WANT TO DO IT.BUT I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT THAT.
WE'LL HAVE MORE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TO ACE HARDWARE AND PAY THREE DOLLARS A BAG FOR IT, AND IT COVERS A LITTLE SPOT LIKE THIS.
I CAN SEE NOTHING BUT POSITIVES WITH THIS.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS HOW I CAN.
HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING THIS MULCH WHEN I NEED IT? BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, AND VERY SELDOM DO YOU SEE ME SPEAK IN FAVOR OF A BUSINESS.
BUT THIS ONE'S GREAT AND THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
I THINK WHERE WE COULD FIND SOME MECHANISM, WHERE WE COULD HAVE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD ALSO GET WITHIN BECAUSE THEY WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN THE SAME CONCEPT WITHIN THE PACKAGE THAT THEY JUST PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS.
SO IF WE COULD SOMEHOW ESTABLISH THAT.
LINK. YOU MIGHT WIND UP WITH A WIN WIN SITUATION, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY GOT A WIN WIN BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO LANDFILL, IT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE RECYCLE.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, SEE IF WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE AND I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS. I WISH I WOULD HAVE HAD THEM AVAILABLE TO DO MY PLACE.
ANY ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU KNOW, AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR EMOTION MOST IMPROVED AUDIENCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT SIXTY SEVEN FIRST READING.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECOND OF MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.
MR. CRAMB, THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH PALM BAY.
APPRECIATE YOU, MAN. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD YOU COULD HAVE TAKEN THE EASY ROUTE AND WENT OVER TO MELBOURNE, BUT YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT. I HAVE A BUSINESS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I STARTED IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO I APPRECIATE THAT MAN.
SO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SIR.
SIR, I'LL TALK WITH YOU AFTER MAN TOLD ME.
YEAH, THERE WE GO. PALM BAY PROUD.
YEAH, THAT'S ALL. VERY HAPPY THAT ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN.
C SEEING NONE. I'M CALLING TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT FIFTY SIX.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PUDI PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS MALABAR SPRINGS AND PUDI PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD IN THE VICINITY WEST OF ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MAN, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. GOOD EVENING, I'M ANA SAUNDERS WITH VSC CONSULTANTS 3:12 SOUTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, THE CIVIL ENGINEER REPRESENTING THE PROJECT.
YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT AND A VERY THOROUGH STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THIS PROJECT, SO I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE BIGGER ITEMS. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT THE WEST END OF MALABAR ROAD, JUST WEST OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE ACRES IN SIZE.
BACK IN AROUND TWO THOUSAND FIVE, THE LAND USE AND REZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY OCCURRED.
BUT SIMILAR OR THAT TIME FRAME, THE THE ECONOMY CHANGED.
THE PLANS DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD AND SAID THE ZONING LAPSED.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING ASKING FOR THE PVD ZONING.
WE ARE CAPPED AT THREE UNITS PER ACRE, SO THAT PUTS US AT ABOUT EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR UNITS ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY MULTIFAMILY UNITS. THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE VILLAS AND TOWNHOMES, SO TO TWO UNIT TOWNHOMES AND FOUR UNIT DUPLEX COMPLEX UNITS AND A MIXTURE OF FORTIES, FIFTIES AND SIXTIES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
WE ARE. I HEARD SOME CONCERN AND DISCUSSION ABOUT THE UTILITY, SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE WILL BE EXTENDING THE CITY'S 20 INCH WATER MAIN AND THE 16 INCH FORCE MAIN THAT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED WITHIN MALABAR ROAD.
RIGHT NOW, IT STOPS AT THE WEST CORNER OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO OUR PROJECT.
WE CONCUR WITH ALL THE STAFF COMMENTS.
THE ONLY ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THERE WAS A TECHNICAL COMMENT IN THERE THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE TO THE TECHNICAL COMMENT PART YET.
WE HAVEN'T TURNED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
THE ONLY COMMENT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS WITH RESPECT TO THE ROAD RIGHT OF WAY ASKED RELATED TO MALABAR ROAD.
THAT SEGMENT OF MALABAR ROAD IS STILL CURRENTLY BREVARD COUNTY, SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH BREVARD COUNTY IF THERE IS ANY RIGHT AWAY REQUEST.
BUT THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION WILL COME OUT THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE WILL WORK WITH NOT ONLY BREVARD COUNTY, BUT WITH THE CITY'S ENGINEER AS WELL TO MAKE
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SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THERE ARE SYNONYMOUS FOR EVERYBODY.AND WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
ALSO, I THIS MAY BE PREMATURE, MA'AM, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT AT THAT THE 800 PLUS HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE AND THE IMPACT TO, AS YOU SAID, IT'S NOW BREVARD COUNTY, MALABAR ROAD OUT THERE, I WAS LOOKING AT FOR PERHAPS THE OPPORTUNITY OF OF HAVING ANOTHER ENTRANCE WAY ONTO ST.
MM HMM. IT MAY BE PRELIMINARY, BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENT.
SO THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS IN ORDER TO GET TO THE PARKWAY, I'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, WHICH I CAN'T DO AND CROSS THEIR CANAL.
AND THEN JUST EAST OF THE HIGH SCHOOL SITE IS A PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION CALLED ST. JOHN'S PRESERVE.
THE ROADWAYS ARE PRIVATE, SO I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO GET THROUGH THERE.
THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO CROSS THE SEA ONE CANAL TO THE NORTH.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW MELVIN TILLMAN WOULD VIEW THAT AND GO INTO A PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH IS CALLED PALM VISTA.
YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THAT NAME.
IT'S SADDLES BOTH SIDES OF THE PARKWAY AT THE MOMENT.
THE COMPLICATION WITH THAT SEGMENT OF LAND OUTSIDE OF IT NOT BEING UNDER OUR CONTROL IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PARTICULAR PORTION.
SO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PALM VISTA IS PRIMARILY THEIR WETLAND AREA AND WHERE A LOT OF THEIR ON SITE MITIGATION IS PROPOSED TO OCCUR.
IT'S THAT THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION THERE FOR 800 HOMES TO BE KIND OF LOCKED INTO THAT ONE WAY IN ONE WAY OUT IS.
SURE. SO ALSO, THAT IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN OF OURS.
IT'S NEVER ANY FUN TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS.
LABORATORIES TO GET IN AND OUT OF.
SO PART OF THAT PROCESS, AGAIN IS GOING THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND SEEING WHAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MET.
I HIGHLY ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL HAVE A FULL TWO LANE AND POSSIBLY A THREE LANE SECTION COMING FROM THE INTERSECTION OF THE PARKWAY AT MALABAR WEST TO OUR PROJECT AND WILL MOST LIKELY WILL HAVE A TURN LANE OF SOME SORT GOING INTO OUR PROJECT SITE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
WELL, I DO, MR. ROBINSON, CAN YOU BRING BRING THE YOU BRING THE PROJECT UP ON THE SCREEN? MAY. IS LIKE THE VIEW THE MAP.
BUT LET ME START TO SAY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
IT'S GREAT, I THINK IT'S TRULY GOING TO.
BRING A LOT, A LOT OF HOMES, WHAT I WHAT I'M MORE MORE INTERESTED ABOUT THE PROJECT IS THE FACT THAT IT'S A MIXTURE YOU HAVE.
IT'S A NICE, DIVERSE, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOME DUPLEXES AND THAT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPTIONS.
NOT JUST, YES, YOU CAN IF YOU CAN AFFORD A 300 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE TOWNHOMES AND THE DUPLEX.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, AGING COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A YOUNGER COMMUNITY TOO THAT MAY YOU KNOW THAT WHAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO AFFORD.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT WITH THE PROJECT.
THE REASON I WAS ASKING HIM TO BRING THE MAP TO THE WEST OF THE.
BUT. AS AN AREA, I MEAN, TALKING ABOUT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT, ONE EXIT AND ONE ENTRANCE, I WAS JUST MY QUESTION TO THE WEST OF THE PROJECT, THE FAR WEST.
THAT. LOOKING AT WHAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE, THERE IS NOTHING PLANNED, THERE'S A BIG SECTION OF IT. YES, THAT SEEMS TO BE RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE USED AS A MORE OF A STORAGE SPOT OR SO.
YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THE AREA JUST WEST OF OUR MAIN ENTRANCE.
THERE'S A LAKE THERE AND THEN THERE'S LIKE A GREEN.
YOU GOT THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THOUGH VERY FAR AND THE OPPOSITE CORNER, THE WEST CORNER.
SO THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY HAS AN EXISTING EASEMENT ON IT THAT IS IN FAVOR OF MELBOURNE TILLMANN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.
IT'S ABOUT NINE AND A QUARTER ACRES IN ROUND NUMBERS, SO THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT ON THAT PROPERTY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO STORE MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT, BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO STORM EVENTS OR, YOU KNOW, A HURRICANE COMES AND THEY'VE GOT TO CLEAN OUT A CANAL BECAUSE A TREE WENT IN IT, THAT TYPE OF THING.
IT PROVIDES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY IN A LOCATION TO TEMPORARILY, TEMPORARILY, EXCUSE ME, IT'S GETTING LATE. STORE THAT MATERIAL AND PART OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO DO, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN IN THE STAFF REPORT AS A RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS FENCED OFF APPROPRIATELY IN THIS CURRENTLY THE NOT QUITE THIS ONE, BUT IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THAT THAT EASEMENT AREA IS ORIENTED NORTH SOUTH.
UH, MELVIN TILLMAN HAS INDICATED TO US THAT THEY'RE OPEN TO REORIENTING THAT MAYBE MAYBE BEING MORE EAST WEST SO THAT THAT LAKE THAT YOU'RE SEEING ADJACENT TO IT MIGHT CHANGE CONFIGURATION, JUST PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERING.
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HERE YOU GO. YEAH.IF I SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH, IS IT OK IF I GO TO THE.
AT A VANNA WHITE IT IN FRONT OF THE PICTURE AND WOULD THAT BE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND? LOOP BACK ONE.
THERE YOU GO. THAT ONE LARGER.
YEAH, SO THAT THAT BOTTOM LEFT CORNER.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT GREEN SPACE, RIGHT? CORRECT. IN FACT, MY THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN I SAW IT, I'M LIKE, MAN, THAT COULD BE A SMALL.
POTENTIALLY COMMERCIAL RETAIL, SOME APPROPRIATE RETAIL THAT COULD BE SUPPORTED BY THAT VERY COMMUNITY. THAT WAS MY THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT BUT LIKE I SAID, IT WAS JUST THIS QUESTION. SURE. I'M JUST TRYING AND NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S PUDDY, BUT OVER ON THE CORNER AT MALABAR, THERE IS A 15 ACRE PIECE OF COMMERCIAL THAT IS UP FOR DEVELOPMENT.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MADAM SHERMAN, ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? OH, MARY, THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON BILL BURTON.
GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET.
I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'S A VERY NICE PROJECT.
THERE, I AGREE WITH THAT BEING SAID, DOUBTING TOM BILL.
HERE IT COMES. MAX DENSITY WAS THREE UNITS PER ACRE.
TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE LAND MASS ACRES THAT CAME CAME OUT TO I'M THREE EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE HOMES.
THAT'S ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE WORKING AT.
BUT THEY'RE ONLY AT THIS POINT.
THEY'RE ONLY DEVELOPING 12 ACRES OF IT WITH A DENSITY OF THREE POINT SIX UNITS INSTEAD OF THREE UNITS PER THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WHEN YOU TAKE THE TOTAL LAND MASS OF TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE ACRES, WELL, YOU SAY, OH GREAT, WE HAVE TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE ACRES. THAT MEANS WE'RE ENTITLED TO THIS MANY HOMES.
IT'S A SIMPLE MATH PROBLEM, BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW MUCH WATER MASS THERE IS ON THE LAND, HOW MUCH THE GREEN SPACE HAS TO BE WHEN YOU START PUTTING ALL THAT IN IT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE, THE DENSITY IS CONSIDERABLY MUCH, MUCH MORE FOR THE ACTUAL LAND MASS.
EVEN THOUGH THEY START OUT WITH A TOTAL OF TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE, THE ACTUAL LAND MASS ON WHICH TO BUILD IS CONSIDERABLY SMALLER, SO YOUR DENSITY IS HIGHLY BECOMES HIGHLY COMPACTED. RIGHT.
SO I'M NOT DOUBTING THAT THEY CAN DO THIS BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THIS, BUT IT'S ONE MORE TIME WHERE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE LAND DOESN'T MEAN IT'S BUILDABLE LAND BY LAND MASS.
AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHICH YOU HAVE TO.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS BECAUSE IF YOU CAN, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE 300 ACRES OF LAKE DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN HAVE THREE HUNDRED HOMES.
IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN KEEPING YOUR MIND.
THE OTHER ITEM ON THAT ONE WAS THE FACT THAT THE STUDIES WERE FOR THIS WERE DONE IN TWO THOUSAND, LET'S SAY, FIVE OR EIGHT.
I DON'T REMEMBER 2005 OR 2008, AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED WITHIN THAT AREA IS GOING TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT IMPACTS FROM WHEN THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED BECAUSE NOTHING ELSE WAS THERE.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN WE START MAKING PLANS FROM PREVIOUS COUNCILS AND PREVIOUS STAFF.
WHAT HAPPENS? IT COMES BACK TO HAUNT US SOMETIMES IF WE DON'T DO A LITTLE BIT MORE HOMEWORK. BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF AS WE DID WITH THE PREVIOUS ONES IN THE PAST.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT BRINGING IN THEIR AMENITIES AND I ALSO KNOW THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO PAVE THE ROAD COMING OUT TO THEM.
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF MY POCKETBOOK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NATHAN WHITE.
NATHAN WHITE, 13 01 SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST, LIKE MR. BATON, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE.
LOOKING AT THE AREA AS A WHOLE.
HAVING THEM RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL, BUT ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, SO IT WOULDN'T BE THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR A COMMERCIAL THAT LEADS ME TO MY FIRST QUESTION OR PROBLEM, WHICH IS.
WHERE IS THE COMMERCIAL GOING TO BE?
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THIS IS ONE OF TWO OR THREE.MILITARY DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST IN TONIGHT'S MEETING.
THIS ONE ALONE, OVER 800 DWELLINGS.
THAT LEADS OUT TO A ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION ROAD.
THAT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MALWARE STAYS ONE LANE FOR FIVE PLUS MILES BEFORE YOU GET TO ANY KIND OF EXPANSION FROM THERE.
SAINT JOHN HERITAGE IS FANTASTIC, BUT IT IS ALSO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.
SO EVEN IF YOU MANAGE TO GET EVERYONE FUNNELED THROUGH THE TWO LANES OF MALABAR IN THE MORNING ON THE WAY TO WORK WHILE THE KIDS ARE ALSO GOING TO SCHOOL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST MASSIVE, MASSIVE BACKUP AND GRIDLOCK.
AND NOT TO MENTION, IN ANY SITUATION LIKE THAT, DRIVERS GET MORE AGGRAVATED DRIVERS THAT ARE MORE AGGRAVATED AND ALSO LATE FOR WORK DON'T DRIVE AS WELL.
NOW YOU HAVE THEM DOING THAT RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ANY POSSIBLE PLAN OR INSIDE THOUGHT I'VE HEARD NOTHING PERSONALLY ABOUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WIDEN MALABAR AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? BECAUSE DOING IT IS IMPORTANT.
HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT.
DOING IT WRONG WOULD BE A CATASTROPHE.
SECONDLY, I AM CONCERNED BY THE SIZE OF THESE UNITS.
UNLESS I'M READING IT WRONG, IT LOOKS LIKE EVEN THE LARGEST SINGLE IN THE LARGEST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE ON LOTS SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN A QUARTER OF AN ACRE.
THE TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON EVEN SMALLER LOTS, SO YOU'D HAVE FOUR FAMILIES OR FOUR UNITS, PRESUMABLY FOUR PERSONS OR FOUR FAMILIES ON A LOT THAT I THINK THE SMALLEST ONE WOULD BE ACTUALLY LIKE.
THAT IS VERY CRAMPED, OBVIOUSLY NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE, NECESSARILY, BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING.
BUT YES, THE NUMBER ONE QUESTIONS WOULD BE COMMERCIAL.
PEOPLE NEED GROCERIES, SAYING IT HAS TO BE A PUBLIX, BUT YOU KNOW, I WANTED BUT AND WIDENING MALABAR ROAD, BOTH FOR CONGESTION, PEOPLE GETTING TO WORK ON TIME AND ALSO THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS WITH IT BEING RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, THE SPEAKER. ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT HAVE ONE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT.
MEANING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY LIVE IN THIS AREA, SO I KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS IN THE MORNING, BUT.
THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, HARRIS'S HIGH SCHOOL.
YES, SIR. OH, WILL IT BE SIDEWALKS WHEN YOU COME OUT OF? GOING DOWN THE DOWN MALABAR ROAD, ONE OF THE STAFF COMMENTS WAS TO PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ALONG TO TO ACCESS THE SCHOOL.
SO IF I HAD A KID GOING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY COULD WALK FROM THERE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. YES, SIR. THERE'S A SCHOOL BUS, WON'T PICK THEM UP CLOSE.
YES, SIR. UM, IN THIS SECTION, INTEREST IS COUNTY.
YES, SIR. MALABAR ROAD IS A COUNTY ROAD, RIGHT? YES, SIR. NOW THE CITY OF PALM BAY ROAD, NOT YET.
BUT THE PROPERTY IS IN THE CITY LIMITS.
YES, SIR. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND MALABAR.
YES, SIR. THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ONE INTERSECTION.
IT'S 15 ACRES AND THEN ACTUALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
KIND OF FILLS THE BUS LOOP, IF YOU WILL.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER 10 ACRE COMMERCIAL PIECE COMMERCIAL.
THERE'S TWENTY FIVE ACRES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PROJECTS? JASON, YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU COULDN'T GET ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE THERE.
SO THE THE PIECE DIRECTLY EAST AND ADJACENT TO ST.
JOHN'S, I'M SORRY, THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAS THE 15 ACRE COMMERCIAL PIECE IN THE CORNER IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, WHICH IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PARKWAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO TO GOOGLE EARTH, BUT.
AND THEN AS YOU AS YOU GO UP, IF YOU GO NORTH, THE PART OF THE PARKWAY BETWEEN JUST NORTH OF EMERSON. IN FACT, THERE'S ACTUALLY 60 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ZONED RIGHT THERE, SITING BOTH SIDES OF EMERSON ROAD.
AND, YEAH, MR MURPHY IS POINTING OUT THE COMMERCIAL PARTS, SO THE TWO UNDEVELOPED PIECES THAT ARE THAT BIG CORNER, THAT ONE, THAT'S A 10 ACRE PIECE AND THEN TO THE RIGHT JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THAT. YEP, THAT'S AT 15 ACRE PIECE.
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SO THERE'S TWENTY FIVE ACRES OF COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA.THERE'S ANOTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST OF THE PARKWAY.
AND THEN AS YOU CONTINUE GOING NORTH UP THE PARKWAY AT EMERSON, THERE'S 60 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AT THAT INTERSECTION AS WELL.
YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. HE'S GOING TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK, JUST OFF THE MAP TO THE EAST, ABOUT MAYBE ANOTHER THOUSAND FEET IS ACTUALLY A 32 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW.
JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY, IT'S VACANT, READY FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THIRTY TWO ACRES, THIRTY TWO ACRES, WHICH IS THE SIZE OF PALM BAY WEST SHOPPING PLAZA RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO YOU'VE ALL BEEN THERE, YOU'VE SEEN HOW BIG THAT PLACE IS.
SO THAT'S A HUGE PROPERTY THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE COMMERCIAL.
YEAH, FOR DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THAT AREA.
YES, RIGHT? YES, WE DO SUPPORT THAT COMMERCIAL.
ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY I THINK THE COMMERCIAL IS WAITING FOR US, THE ROOFTOPS TO COME IN TO GET TO A CERTAIN SATURATION AND THEN IT'S GOING TO FOLLOW.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL.
WELL, GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP NOW.
OK? I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP DURING COUNCILMAN REPORTS, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT UP NOW IN REGARDS TO THE WIDENING OF MALABAR.
AND I'VE TALKED TO MR. MOHOL AND STAFF AS WELL.
AND. UM, AS THE YOUNG LADY STATED, THERE ARE PARTS THAT ARE OWNED BY BREVARD COUNTY IN REGARDS TO THE WIDENING OF MALABAR, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDING SO AND EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME. SO THE REASON WHY I WANT TO TALK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE YES, THE CITY NEEDS TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME IN REGARDS TO FUNDING, BUT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO AS WELL. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE APPROACH OUR COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR STAFF AND FINDING OUT WHAT PART OF MALABAR ROAD IS THEIRS AND WHAT PART IS OURS, AS WELL AS THEM LOOKING AT YOU. THREE, BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE SPACE COAST TPO AND THIS WILL BE A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE CAN GET FUNDING FROM. SO IF WE CAN GET FUNDING THROUGH ALL THREE, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL LIGHTEN THE BURDEN FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND IT'S IT'S BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY.
SO IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE SPACE COAST TPO, THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY, BECAUSE SAME RESIDENTS THEY SERVE ARE THE SAME ONES WE SERVE.
SO THEY'RE PRETTY MAD NOT TO, YOU KNOW, BELIEVE AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, AND GOING DOWN IN THAT SAME DIRECTION.
COMMISSIONER SONKO WAS A BIG PROPONENT ON WHY WE MOVED UP ON THE BABCOCK.
PALM BAY ROAD, MS., SO THIS FALLS RIGHT IN HER DISTRICT.
SO FOR US TO HAVE STAFF REACH OUT, I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME AS WE CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED RESOLUTION. TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH FIFTY SIX GRANTING APPROVAL OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS MALABAR SPRINGS, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF AN ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD IN THE VICINITY WEST OF ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY OF TWO HUNDRED NINETY FOUR POINT SEVENTY ACRES.
I CAN. AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.
WOULD BE A REALLY NICE PROJECT, LIKE EVERYONE CONCURS, SO ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT FIFTY SEVEN.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED CONDITIONAL USE FOR PUBLIC UTILITY EQUIPMENT AND FACILITIES NOT LOCATED WITHIN A UTILITY EASEMENT OR RIGHT AWAY IN HOURS TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING.
WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AN ADJACENT TO CABOT DRIVE IN THE VICINITY EAST OF BIANCA DRIVE, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN RAN THE USE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDED FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SMITH.
WANT TO SHARE ANY. LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH, MADAM SHERMAN.
ALL RIGHT. SO YES, THIS IS WHERE THE APPLICANTS SO ACTUALLY, WE'VE GOT OUR CONSULTANT REPRESENTATIVE HERE, CLAYTON MCCORMICK OF INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES.
HE'LL GIVE US A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH OUR STATION COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CLAYTON MCCORMICK.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH THE FIRM OF INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES.
WE'RE AT SEVEN ONE SEVEN FIVE MORRELL ROAD IN MELBOURNE.
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WE'RE ONE OF YOUR TWO ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS THAT REPRESENT UTILITIES OR YOU, AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WORKING WITH THE CITY.I'M ALSO A PALM BAY RESIDENT, LONG TERM PALM BAY RESIDENT.
THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED WORKING WITH UTILITIES IN 2006, WE ASKED STAFF AS WE WERE BEING INTRODUCED TO THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE US TO SOME OF YOUR BEST LIVE STATIONS AND SOME OF YOUR WORST LIVE STATIONS AND LIFT STATION ONE ON CABOT DRIVE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST STATIONS WE WENT TO.
AND THE REASON WHY STAFF TOOK US THERE BACK EVEN 15 YEARS AGO WAS THAT ACCESS TO THAT STATION WAS REALLY A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE WAS A RESIDENTIAL LOT THAT STAFF HAD TO ACCESS. THEY WERE ACTUALLY ON THE RESIDENTIAL DRIVE ACCESSING THAT LIFT STATION BECAUSE THAT STATION IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE EASEMENT BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL LOT.
AND SO THAT WE DON'T DO THOSE TYPES OF STATIONS ANYMORE.
THAT LIFT STATION WAS PUT IN BY JD-U BACK IN THE 70S, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL LIVE STATIONS IN THE CITY. SO IN TWO THOUSAND, I THINK 18, I BELIEVE THE CITY PURCHASED THAT RESIDENTIAL LOT ON CABOT DRIVE DEMOLISH THE HOUSE, AND THAT STARTED THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE'RE HERE TODAY, BY WHICH WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE STATION ONE.
AND SO THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW IS TO PLACE A CONVENTIONAL CITY STANDARD LIFT STATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOT, ROUTE THE SEWAGE INTO THAT LIFT STATION AND CONSTRUCT IT TO CITY STANDARDS AND THEN DEMOLISH THE EXISTING STATION THAT'S IN THE BACK.
THANK YOU. AMIR MR., BILL BATTEN.
BURAK BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT IS, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME IF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH SOMEBODY'S YARD TO ACCESS A LIFT STATION, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT.
LET'S PUT AN INCONVENIENCE, I PROBLEM IF I WAS THE LANDOWNER, I WOULDN'T LET YOU ACCESS IT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
BUT THE FACT WE'RE HAVING A NEW ONE, WHICH IS ALSO IN A RESIDENTIAL LOT FOR THE NEW ONE TO BE BUILT, AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE SOME OF THE DRAWINGS, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BE DOING SOME REROUTING OF PIPING ALONG WITH THAT.
DOES THAT MEAN DIGGING UP THE ROADS AND DIGGING UP SOME OF THE LINES TO CONNECT INTO THIS NEW LIFT STATION? THAT'S BASICALLY. AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT, IT WAS LOOKED LIKE SIX HOUSES OR MAYBE SEVEN HOUSES WITHIN THAT ONE LITTLE LOOP OF THIS LIFT STATION.
SO I THOUGHT, WELL, IS IT JUST A SMALL NUMBER OF HOMES THAT WERE DOING THIS FOR? AND THEN THE REROUTING OF THE PIPE? THOSE TWO QUESTIONS WERE WHERE I WAS AT WITH THIS ONE.
NUMBER ONE STATION IS AND HAS TO BE REPLACED.
BUT I'VE ALSO QUESTIONING THE FUNDS AND THE NUMBER OF HOMES PERMITTED OFF OF THIS ONE.
THANK YOU. AND WE'LL GET SOME ANSWERS FOR YOU.
SO, YEAH, SO STATION ONE IS IT'S AN INTERESTING STATION BECAUSE IT ESSENTIALLY TAKES CARE OF ALL THE FLOW OR A LOT OF THE FLOW EAST TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS EAST ALONG U.S.
ONE COMES THROUGH THAT AREA INTO THE STATION.
ONE I THINK WILL BE LOOKED AT IT.
IT'S ABOUT 10000 RESIDENTS IS SERVED BY THAT STATION IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO THAT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT STATION FOR THE EASTERN PART OF THE OLD PART OF PALM BAY BOARD MALABAR AREA.
THE OTHER QUESTION WAS RELATED TO PIPING.
SO YES, IN ORDER TO ROOT THE DISCHARGE OF THAT LIFT STATION, WE DO HAVE TO PUT IN SOME ADDITIONAL FORCE. MAIN, MAKE THE CONNECTION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE RABBIT DRIVE AND THEN DOWN BIANCA TO CONNECT TO SOME EXISTING PIPES AND THEN TAKE THE FLOW TO THE SOUTH.
SO THERE'S A BIT OF FORCE MAIN WORK THAT'S BEING AS PART OF THE PROJECT TOO.
AND ALL THAT FORCE MAIN WORK WILL BE IN THE IN THE RIGHT WAY.
THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN.
RIGHT, SO ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, THOSE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE CASEY, YOU DASH THIRTY SEVEN, DASH TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
I CAN GET A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING TO MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
COME ON, FOLKS. MY NAME IS DR. MILLER.
MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE AT THIRTEEN NINETY EIGHT VALENCIA STREET.
WE'RE APPLYING FOR A VARIANCE TO PUT IN A FOUR CAR GARAGE ON OUR ONE POINT SEVENTEEN ACRES. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD FOR THEM AT THIS TIME.
WE ARE LOOKING AT METAL STRUCTURES THAT HAVE WAYNE'S COATING THAT WILL MATCH THE COLOR OF
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OUR HOUSE NOW. THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE ZONING BOARD ASKED FOR.IT HAD TO MATCH IF WE WANTED A METAL STRUCTURE.
WE WANT TO. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE DECIDED TO ALWAYS STRIVE TO KEEP OUR HOUSE NEAT AND WE WANT TO ALSO HAVE A GARAGE TO NICELY TUCK OUR CARS AWAY AT.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WANTED, WE DESPERATELY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THAT WE GET THIS VARIANCE SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
WE'VE AGAIN WORKED VERY HARD TO HAVE THIS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AT THIS LATE TIME. SO, YES.
ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. MADAM SHERMAN, ANY COMMENTS YOU YOURSELF WANT TO ADD? NO MERE STAFF SUPPORTS THIS REQUEST.
DEPUTY MAYOR AND SPEAKER CARDS.
WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS FOR A MOTION MOTION TO REQUEST BY DR.
IDA AND SCOTT MILLER FOR A VARIANCE TO GRANT A PROPOSED DETACHED GARAGE RELIEF FROM THE REQUIREMENT THAT NO ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SHALL EXCEED THE SIZE OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURES. THE LIVING AREA IN R.S.
TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING, AS ESTABLISHED BY SECTION ONE EIGHT FIVE POINT ONE ONE EIGHT.
SEE. SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? YES, MAYOR, REAL QUICK. JUST WANT TO REMIND STAFF HERE WE HAVE RESIDENTS HERE FOR THREE HOURS AND FORTY NINE MINUTES.
YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN HANDLE THESE THINGS INTERNALLY, BUT ALSO TO BILL BATTENS POINT, LIKE IF WE CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A WEATHER SEMIANNUAL OR SOMETHING, SOME TYPE OF REPORT OF HOW THESE HOW THIS IS GOING BEFORE COUNCIL.
SO THAT WAY WE SEE WE STILL SEE IT AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING IN THERE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE SMOOTHLY IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS OR YOURSELF AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED AS UNANIMOUSLY WE'RE ON COUNCIL REPORTS.
WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN RELATIONS.
[COUNCIL REPORTS]
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.WELL, LET ME SEE, IT'S TEN FORTY NINE.
I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY DEFER MY TIME FOR THE TIME BEING, BUT I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS MR BATTEN.
A QUESTION WASN'T DIRECTED TO ME.
I MEAN, TO TO COUNSEL, BUT TO STAFF, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS IT.
HOW MANY? YOUR CONCERN OR ASKING QUESTION IN REGARDS OF HOW MANY ILLEGAL CAME TO OUR CITY? I DIDN'T BRING ANY WITH ME, BUT THAT'S A JOKE.
I FELT COMPELLED TO GO OUT THERE TO TO TO HELP, TO LEND A HAND TO FELLOW HUMAN BEING THAT OF FLEEING. HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE SITUATIONS AND LAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO REALLY FOR THEIR LIVES AND AND MANY, MANY SITUATIONS.
I WAS AMAZED TO SEE THE CONDITIONS WHEN I WAS THERE AND I WAS.
ABLE TO HELP QUITE A FEW OF THEM.
THE STORIES IS A HUMAN BEING, JUST LIKE YOU AND I.
THIS IS VERY, VERY UNFORTUNATE.
THEY ARE IN SITUATIONS VERY UNFORTUNATE.
AND I WOULD NOT REFER TO THEM AS ILLEGALS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WHAT THEY ARE, IS ASYLUM SEEKERS. A FLEEING SITUATIONS.
TRYING TO SEEK THAT BETTER LIFE, BETTER CONDITIONS OF LEAVING.
THE PILOTS, LET'S LEAVE THE POLITICS ASIDE.
LET'S LOOK AT IT AS AS ANOTHER FELLOW HUMAN BEING.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS THERE JUST TO HELP OUT.
UM, AND I ENCOURAGE OTHERS IF SHOULD YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME? BOARD LAYS THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN NATIONALITY.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE SHOULD YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP ANOTHER FELLOW HUMAN BEING TO DO THE SAME? UM.
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AND THE PROPER TERM, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.THEY ARE ASYLUM SEEKERS, AND IT'S IN THE BOOK OF THE UNITED STATES, THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS NATION, THIS GREAT NATION, BECAUSE ALL HOW WE OPEN OUR HARM TO OTHERS.
OR FOR THAT, THAT AMERICAN DREAM AND THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER THEIR LIVES.
SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, NONE, NONE OF THEM CAME HERE.
AND THE PROCESS GO, THEY DON'T JUST CROSS ACROSS THE BORDER AND THEY JUST SPREAD AS A PROCESS. THOSE THAT GOT PROCESSED, THEY ONLY WERE RELEASED, THE FEW THAT GOT RELEASED AFTER A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE ON HUMAN CONDITION, THE WAY THEY WERE KEPT WAS HORRIBLE.
WATCHING OUR GOVERNMENT DID A POOR, POOR, VERY POOR JOB.
NO HUMAN BEING DESERVED TO BE TREATED THE WAY THEY WERE TREATED.
IT WAS A VERY HORRIBLE SITUATION WORSE THAN THE PICTURES THAT YOU SAW, BECAUSE ON THURSDAY NIGHT WE HAD A CHANCE TO GO ON TO THE BORDER.
UNDER THE BRIDGE, I SAW ABOUT 3000 OF THEM.
IT WAS HORRIBLE. WORSE THAN THE PICTURES YOU'VE SEEN, SOME OF THE PICTURES I'VE SEEN, THOSE THOSE ARE BORDER PATROL ON HORSES.
IT WAS HORRIBLE. WE ARE AMERICANS.
AS A NATION, AS PEOPLE, WE ARE MUCH, MUCH BETTER IN THAT.
NO. NO HUMAN BEING DESERVES THAT KIND OF TREATMENT.
SO THE PSEUDOGAP PROCESS WAS ABOUT SOMEWHAT ABOUT 2000.
THERE'S A PROCESS. SOMEBODY'S GOT TO RECEIVE THEM, GOT TO PLEDGE TO TAKE A MAN AND BE RESPONSIBLE FINANCIALLY, PROVIDE SHELTER, FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THEM OR THEM.
THAT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS TO BE RELEASED.
SO THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
IT DOESN'T BECOME OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO THAT'S PART OF OUR PROCESS.
DON'T USE THE WORD DEPORTATION ANYMORE.
EXPEL FOUR THOUSAND SELF SELF EXPELLED BECAUSE THEY SEE THE CONDITION, THEY WENT BACK TO MEXICO, THEY CROSSED OVER.
AND TO TWO THOUSAND STILL ROUGHLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT'S ABOUT FOURTEEN THOUSAND. YOU SAID I FELT I WAS COMPELLED TO KIND OF MAYBE ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS.
THE TERM ILLEGAL, WE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE MAYBE UNDOCUMENTED IN THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE OF OUR BROKEN SYSTEM IMMIGRATION SYSTEM.
BUT THOSE PARTICULAR ONES WERE ASYLUM SEEKERS, THEY'RE NOT ILLEGAL, IT'S IT'S A IT'S NOT A GOOD TERM TO.
I CONCLUDE MY REPORT, SIR, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR FOSTER COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD PIGGY BACK OFF, BUT.
ADDRESS MR. BATTEN. I DON'T SUPPORT ANY UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
OK, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT.
AND I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD COME IN THIS COUNTRY SEEKING ASYLUM LIKE MR., FELIX SAID, OR LEGALLY. BUT I DO HAVE A HEART.
I KNOW WHAT MR. FELIX IS TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIVED IN DEL RIO, TEXAS, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR. I LIVED THERE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND MY THE REASON I WAS LIVING THERE BECAUSE OF MY JOB AS A U.S.
THE DRUG SMUGGLERS AND THE UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE THAT CROSSED OVER AND ASSIST BORDER PATROL AND PROCESSING DUE TO OUR COURT SYSTEM AND DEPORTING THEM, SO I UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T AS WORSE AS WHAT MR. FELIX SAW.
BUT THIS IS BACK IN TWO THOUSAND SEVEN AND 2008 I WAS IN DEL RIO AND.
OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS SCREWED UP, AND I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT THROUGHOUT MY LAW ENFORCEMENT, CAREER AND IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS SCREWED UP, AND I THANK GOD THAT WE ARE NOT A BORDER CITY. REALLY DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH ISSUES THAT THIS COUNCIL, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A FEDERAL ISSUE AND IT DOESN'T MATTER DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.
NEITHER PARTY NEVER ADDRESSED THE ISSUE.
I'M TELLING YOU THAT I THINK SO IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
THE LOCAL AND STATE SHOULDN'T GET INVOLVED, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. AND BUT WE MIGHT HAVE UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE IN PALM BAY AND THE WORST THING
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I WANT TO, I WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE.YOU KNOW, THEY GET TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, THEY GET BECOME VICTIMS OF CRIMINALIZATION, RAPE, EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION OR TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
AND. IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT I'M TALKING TO, THE PALM BAY, I DON'T.
ILL AFRAID TO CONTACT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND REPORT THE CRIMES, THE SEXUAL ASSAULT, THE SEX TRAFFICKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE MY.
THIS IS NOT A SWIPE AT YOU, MR BATTEN.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU AND PALM BAY AND I'M GOING TO IN MY REPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ADDRESSED ALREADY TWO OF THE ITEMS I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS, WHICH WAS WITH, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH RESIDENTS THAT JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS REQUESTS AS WELL AS THE WIDENING OF MALABAR.
THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, WHICH WAS PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE MS. FRY CAME UP AND SPOKE.
BUT ONE OF THE MAIN EMAILS OR CALLS OR PEOPLE WHO RESIDENTS WHO REACH OUT OR REGARDING SWELLS, DRAINAGE CULVERTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? YEAH, REPUBLIC, TOO.
BUT LATELY IT'S BEEN SEAWALLS AND DRAINAGE AND IT'S BEEN RAINING.
THANK GOD WE HAVEN'T HAD A HURRICANE, BUT I WOULD LOVE IF WE HAD LIKE A SYSTEM ONLINE OR SOMETHING BECAUSE LIKE WITH MS. FRY, WE HAD NOTHING DOCUMENTED, BUT LIKE A SYSTEM ONLINE WHERE THEY CAN LOG IN THEIR ADDRESS. AND, YOU KNOW, EITHER EVEN PICTURES LIKE SHE BROUGHT UP TO US TO SHOW WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISSUE IS HAPPENING AND THEN THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN IT CAN BE ADDED TO A LIST AND IT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, IF I CAN JUST BE LOOKED AT, BUT I THINK THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF HEADACHES FROM RESIDENTS AND CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE HURRICANE SEASON TIMEFRAME.
SO. WELL, YOU KNOW, IF I IF I CAN ADD AND I'VE SHARED THIS WITH.
MADAM SHERMAN, REGARDING OUR SWALES REGARDING THE OVERGROWTH AND AND AS I HAVE WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SOMEHOW THAT SCHEDULE HASN'T BEEN FULFILLED AND SO I'M IN AGREEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT CERTAINLY A A WAY THE CONSTITUENCY CAN CAN ACCESS THAT. BUT IN MRS FRY'S CASE, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT CAPACITY.
YOU FOLLOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT, SO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT BECAUSE OR FOR THE NEW GENERATION, WE STILL HAVE A SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT THAT IS NOT ELECTRONICALLY SAVVY OR AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE.
BUT I DO AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A SCHEDULE IN CLEANING OUT BECAUSE WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE WITH OUR RAINFALL THIS THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OVERGROWTH IN OUR IN OUR FEEDER CANALS THAT GO TO THE C-19 OR C17, I SHOULD SAY.
AND AND SO THOSE THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN OVERGROWN AND I'VE NOTICED THERE HASN'T BEEN A SCHEDULE IN MY PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S BEEN OVERGROWN.
I DID SHARE THAT WITH MADAM SHERMAN, BUT NOT JUST MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL OF PALM BAY JUST ABOUT WHERE I SEE THAT.
SO WE DEFINITELY AND THIS IS WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT CONTINUITY WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? THERE'S THAT HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE HAVEN'T HAD THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, SO I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH YOU.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TO GIVE OUR CONSTITUENCY THAT TYPE OF ACCESS TO COMMUNICATE WITH US AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S AN UPLOAD.
WHEN AM I ON THE SCHEDULE? HOW CAN I? HOW CAN I GET SERVICE OUT THERE? SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, SIR.
WAS THAT ALL YOUR REPORT, SIR? SO MY REPORT? THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS WHEN I WAS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE GENTLEMAN LEFT THE.
MS., THE WHITE MR. WHITE PULLED ME AND ASKED ME A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN COUNCILMAN BAILEY RESIGNED AND THE ACTUAL DATE, IF YOU'RE LISTENING AND WATCHING, WAS ACTUALLY AUGUST 10TH.
HE DID STATE HE WAS GOING TO RESIGN IN JULY.
BUT THE OFFICIAL DATE OF HIS RESIGNATION WAS AUGUST 10TH.
AND THEN I WANTED TO APPOINT TIM DEIBERT TO OUR UTILITIES BOARD.
SO IS THAT ALL YOU NEED, MADAM CHAIR?
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YES, THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. OK.AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL FROM MY REPORTS AND WE'RE GOING A NEW BUSINESS.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SHERMAN.
[NEW BUSINESS]
AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO AS DISCUSSED AT A PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING, WE WERE ASKED TO BRING BACK AN ITEM TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOURS OF LEAVING SPECIFICALLY TO PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL WHO WORK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.SO SPECIFIC TO FIRE AND POLICE PERSONNEL WHO ARE INTERACTING DAILY WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE THEM WITH ADDITIONAL LEAVE SPECIFIC TO COVID EXPOSURE.
SO WE'VE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY COUNCIL AUTHORIZE US TO USE THE ARPA FUNDS FOR ABOUT FOUR 80 HOURS FOR ALL EMPLOYEES, SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 40 HOURS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC POSITIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR IN YOUR AGENDA MEMO, BUT INCLUDE SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT, DESK BOOKING SPECIALISTS, CRIME SCENE TECHNICIANS, FIRE DEPARTMENT FIREFIGHTERS AND FIRE DEPARTMENT DISTRICT CHIEFS.
SO THIS IS HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THE CASE, THE CASE LOAD AND THE.
THE SPEED AT WHICH NEW CASES ARE COMING IN AND BEING REPORTED INTERNALLY, IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT LESS THAN IT WAS EARLIER IN THE SUMMER.
FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, IT WAS PRETTY STEADY, VERY REGULARLY, BUT WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN A DOWNTURN IN THE REPORTING OF CASES, SO AT LEAST AMONG OUR EMPLOYEE GROUP.
SO IS THERE IS THERE A NEED OR IS THERE IS THERE NOT A NEED? WELL, I CERTAINLY THINK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE GENEROUS AND HOLD THESE HOURS IN CASE I THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW.
CERTAINLY, I MEAN, THE COVID SITUATION IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING.
WE'VE HAD THESE VARIANTS AND SO THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
IF COUNSEL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? WE INCLUDED POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. POLICE OFFICERS AND.
YES, THOSE ARE THAT WORK OUT IN LIKE DAY TO DAY COMMUNITY CONTACT.
THANK YOU. MARY JOHNSON BAILEY BATON.
WE'LL BATTEN FIVE EIGHTY SIX OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
WE'VE HAD TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR CASES OUT OF A POPULATION OF NINE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES.
MY QUESTION WAS HOW MANY OF THESE HAVE BEEN REPEAT? CASES FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE HAD MORE THAN ONCE.
AND THEN AS OF BEING A DOUBTING TOM THAT I AM.
I'VE SEEN MORE STUFF. I SAY, WELL, I'VE BEEN AROUND SOMEBODY, SO I HAVE TO TAKE, I HAVE TO BE OUT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE PART OF THE COVID PROCESS IS SAYING.
YOU'RE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SOMEBODY, THEN YOU BETTER TAKE THE DAY OFF.
WELL, MY MY PHILOSOPHY BILL BATTENS IS IF THE BOSS TELLS ME TO TAKE OFF.
THAT MEANS THE BOSS IS WILLING TO PAY.
KIND OF KIND OF STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S NOT. I'M ASKING TO TAKE THE DAY OFF.
I WAS TOLD TO GO HOME AND STAY HOME, AND THAT'S THE BOSS IS CALL.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THIS ONE.
BUT THE FACT THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WERE HAVING TO USE THEIR VACATION TIME AND THEIR SICK TIME, I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR SICK TIME, BUT NOT THEIR VACATION TIME BECAUSE THEY WERE SICK. WELL, I PUT THIS IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE NOW.
THEY WERE BLAMING IT ON COVID, OR WE CAN HAVE THE SAME SCENARIO FOR ANOTHER ILLNESS OR ANOTHER, A MEDICAL EMERGENCY WHERE A PERSON USES MORE THAN THEIR 40 HOURS.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THEN SAY, WELL, TOO BAD IT'S STILL BOILING A BACK DOWN TO THE IDENTITY WITHOUT LABELING WHAT CAUSES WHAT THE CAUSE IS.
THE ACTUAL FACT IS THE INDIVIDUALS ARE OUT MORE THAN 40 HOURS AND THEY LOSE TIME OR THEY GET FIRED OR WHATEVER METHOD YOU WANT TO WORK WITH IT.
YOU'RE SICK. TIME WAS AVAILABLE AND YOUR VACATION TIME WAS AVAILABLE.
AND THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE HAVING TO USE BECAUSE OF OF AN ILLNESS AND ILLNESS COULD BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN COVID IN THE FUTURE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.
WE'RE SETTING THE PRECEDENT, SO WE EITHER HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO SET OUR GUIDELINES ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THIS EITHER.
I SAY YOU'RE GONE. YOU GET PAID.
IF THE BOSS IF YOU'RE ASKING TO BE GONE, YOU PAY.
IT'S KIND OF STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS BY MY STANDARD BECAUSE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE.
THEY KNOW THERE'S SO MANY DAYS IN A IN A YEAR THAT FUNDING FOR THAT RESOURCE IS THERE.
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BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.IT MIGHT MAKE A CHANGE OF HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT ON YOUR INSURANCE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE ON ON THE ACTUAL DAYS.
ALL RIGHT. SO HOW MANY OF THEM WERE REPEAT CASES AND HOW MANY OF THEM? I'M HOPING THIS IS NOT WITH MY CITY EMPLOYEES ARE DOING.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S SAY, WELL, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO BE GONE TODAY.
SO I'VE GOT I'VE GOT COVID TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO BE OFF FOR THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR DAYS AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND PEOPLE THAT USE THAT VACATION TIME AND THAT'S SICK TIME JUST SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME TO WORK.
SO IF THEY'RE TOLD TO BE HOME CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, IF THEY VOLUNTEER THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
THANK YOU. MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO.
YOU KNOW, NAVIGATE THOSE SURE ISSUES THAT DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE STATS TONIGHT FOR THE REPEAT. I'M CERTAIN THAT THERE ARE SOME THAT WERE EXPOSED BEFORE HAD HAD THE SITUATION AND POTENTIALLY GOT COVID AGAIN, BUT ESSENTIALLY OUR PROTOCOL AND WE HAVE VERY ROBUST AND DETAILED SET OF RULES THAT WE FOLLOW.
WE CERTAINLY IF SOMEONE HAS SYMPTOMS OR IS ACTING SICK, ESSENTIALLY WE DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO STAY IN THE WORKPLACE. WE DO SEND THEM HOME IN THOSE CASES TO PREVENT THE POTENTIAL FOR SPREAD OR REQUIRE THAT THEY GET TESTED.
WE ALSO REQUIRE THAT THEY PROVIDE TEST PROOF THAT THEY'VE BEEN CLEARED OR THERE'S ALSO SOME GUIDELINES RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF DAYS YOU COULD BE OUT AND WITH NO SYMPTOMS, YOU COULD RETURN BACK SAFELY.
EITHER WAY, THOUGH, IF FOLKS IN THE WORKPLACE ARE EXPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO HAD SYMPTOMS, WE DO NOT SEND THEM HOME.
IN THE CURRENT TIMES, THERE WAS SOME DIFFERENT PROTOCOL LAST YEAR, BUT BASED ON ALL THAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS PAST COVID SITUATION.
NOW FOLKS CAN STAY IN THE WORKPLACE AS LONG AS THEY'RE WEARING THEIR PPE, YOU KNOW, KEEPING SAFE DISTANCE FROM OTHER FOLKS, AND THEY ONLY NEED TO LEAVE IF THEY START HAVING SYMPTOMS AS WELL.
SO THAT DOES LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE POTENTIAL TO TO USE THIS.
AND BECAUSE BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY COVID SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCE, THE ARPA FUNDING IS SPECIFICALLY GIVEN TO CITIES TO HELP WITH VARIOUS COVID RELATED ISSUES.
THIS HOPEFULLY WILL BE A ONE TIME EVENT WHERE THERE'S A NEED TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL, AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED TO HELP WITH THAT.
HE. THE QUESTION IS COUNCILMAN.
YES, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
ELIGIBLE TO USE THIS 40 HOURS, IF THEY IF THEY EXPIRED AT 80, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO USE THE 40 HOURS, RIGHT? YES.
IF, LET'S SAY, HYPOTHETICAL, IF THEY WIFE OR HUSBAND CAUGHT COVID, THEN THEY'VE BEEN EXPOSED. THEY'D STILL BE ELIGIBLE TO USE THESE HOURS.
CORRECT. THAT IS NOT CORRECT IN THE CURRENT SITUATION.
SO IF IF THEY HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S SICK BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SYMPTOMS, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO COME TO WORK WEARING THEIR PPE, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION IF THEY NEED TO STAY HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THAT PERSON, BUT IF THEY'RE JUST IF THEY ARE SYMPTOM FREE, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO COME TO WORK.
WELL, THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD USE THIS 40 HOURS, IF THEY ARE IF THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF A LOVED ONE. OR THEY CALL IT COVERT.
IN. THIS 40 HOURS SUNSET AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, OR DOES IT CONTINUE ON TO THE FUN RUNS OUT? WE PUT A DRONE, DO WE PUT A DATE ON THIS? I WAS ACTUALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE AGENDA MEMO BECAUSE WE PUT AN EXPIRATION DATE ON THE PREVIOUS 80 HOURS, SO JUST OFF THE BAT, BUT IT SHOULD EXPIRE AT THE SAME.
I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT OFF.
BUT I CAN. SO, SO THE THE 80 HOURS SUNSET WHEN THE END OF THE YEAR, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO CHECK REAL QUICK.
IT WAS AUGUST MEETING, RIGHT MEETING.
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IT WAS DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.OK, SO WHEN WHEN THAT DATE ARRIVES? THE COUNSEL, COULD WE BRING THIS BACK UP AND SUNSET IT FOR THE END OF DECEMBER 2022? AT THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS TO ALLOW ALLOW IT TO EXPIRE UNLESS COUNCIL DECIDED OTHERWISE. OK.
WHICH? BUT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THE COVID CASES AMONG EMPLOYEES AND AT THAT TIME UPON EXPIRATION APPROACH.
ONE, WE WOULD IF FELT THE NEED ARISE, BRING IT BACK.
MY MIND YOU, ALL THAT IS COMING AND THEN DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANTED TO EXTEND IT.
IN A MOTION. MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ENACT ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY COVID 19 LEAVE BANK FUNDED BY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, APPLICABLE TO THE CITY PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, WITH THE DATES TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE PREVIOUS 80 HOURS.
I GOT MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO ADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS ITEM IS THE CONSIDERATION OF MODIFICATIONS TO OUR CO-SPONSORSHIP POLICY.
WE DID DISCUSS IT AT THE LAST MEETING AND BASED ON, YOU KNOW, TESTING IT OUT.
ESSENTIALLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE REALIZED THERE WERE SOME THINGS WE WOULD RECOMMEND CHANGING AND WE DID DISCUSS THOSE.
SO TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THEM, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE REALIZED MIGHT BE A HINDRANCE TO THINGS THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY WAS A CRITERIA THAT SAID THE EVENT HAD TO BE HELD ON A CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE MADE THOSE EDITS TO THE DOCUMENT AND NOW ALLOWS EVENTS TO BE HELD ON ANY TYPE OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY.
WE ALSO MADE CHANGES TO ALLOW OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO APPLY FOR SPONSORSHIPS.
THAT HAS THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
I BELIEVE THE TOWN OF MALABAR AT ONE POINT REQUESTED USE OF OUR STAGE FOR SOME EVENTS, SO THAT WOULD BE A POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE APPLICATION.
WE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR PROCESSING AND APPLICATION, AND THE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE SAID THAT AN APPLICANT HAD TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION 90 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT.
WE REALIZED THAT MIGHT NOT BE.
IT MIGHT NOT WORK TOO WELL FOR THINGS THAT COME UP SORT OF.
SUDDENLY, THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN WAS THE COMMUNITY IMMUNITY EVENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DOE TO COME IN, PROVIDE VACCINATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAD VERY LITTLE NOTICE OF THAT.
SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, THE PROPOSED CHANGE BRINGS UP FROM 90 DAYS DOWN TO 30 DAYS.
THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT REFLECTS WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TIMING ON BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL. SO THAT OBVIOUSLY IS A CONSIDERATION.
IF I CAN'T GET IT TO COUNCIL MEETING, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE CONSIDERED.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE WOULD BE SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER MYSELF TO EXERCISE DISCRETION IF SOMETHING COMES IN LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
BUT IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF THE EVENTS AND THE BENEFIT AND NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY BASED ON THAT APPLICATION.
AND LASTLY, THERE WAS AN ADDITION TO THE THE FACTORS.
THERE'S A SENTENCE IN THERE THAT ALREADY READ THAT AN APPLICATION IS NOT A GUARANTEE OF APPROVAL, BUT IT ALSO WAS ADDED THAT OTHER FACTORS COULD BE REVIEWED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SAFETY AND LIABILITY CONCERNS FOR THE PUBLIC AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER. SO THAT WAS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION LAST MEETING A COMMENT ABOUT CONCERNS OVER AN EVENT POTENTIALLY BEING HELD IN AN AREA THAT IS UNSAFE FOR RESIDENTS.
SO GIVING THAT FLEXIBILITY TO REJECT AN APPLICATION THAT MIGHT COME IN LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS HIGH LEVEL THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THIS DRAFT.
SO I HAD A QUESTION LIKE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE HAD A HISTORY WITH THE CITY AS AN EXAMPLE. I REMEMBER PREVIOUSLY THEY THEY WERE AWARDED SOME TYPE OF GRACE OR MERIT, OR IT WAS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS JUST HOPING TO SEE.
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, SOMEONE THAT HAS BROUGHT FORWARD A COMMUNITY EVENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND HAS ESTABLISHED A PARTNERSHIP, THE CO PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
DO THEY GET LIKE AN ADDITIONAL TYPE OF MEMORY BONUS POINTS OR? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE BUILT AN MERIT BONUS POINTS.
OK. WELL, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD.
IT. WELL, I'LL LET YOU GUESS THAT.
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MR. CHIEF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. KNOW BATON.BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THIS TOPIC FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND THIS WAS THE PROCESS IN WHICH WE GOT HERE TO WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME GUIDANCE AND AS AN ACTUAL POLICY THAT WOULD WORK.
AND AS ALWAYS, POLICIES ARE TESTED AND TRIED, AND SOME OF THEM EVEN COME OUT TO BE TRUE, AND SOME OF THEM STILL ALWAYS FAIL.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THE MODIFICATIONS WERE MADE AND THEY MADE SENSE TO ME.
BUT I AM JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT I WAS SAYING ALL ALONG.
WE NEEDED SOME KIND OF POLICY THAT SAID IT.
AND THAT'S EVEN WITH THE JHALAK REPORT EVEN SAID TO.
SO I SAY THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG AND AND HERE WE ARE, AND THERE WAS SOME MODIFICATIONS WITH IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HEY, I NEED A MOTION COUNCILMAN MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED CO-SPONSORSHIP POLICY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
THIS IS A SECOND REQUEST FROM THE COMMUNITY IMMUNITY OR EXCUSE ME, FROM THE PUSH-BACK 2020 GROUP FOR A SECOND COMMUNITY IMMUNITY EVENTS TO PRIMARILY TO ADMINISTER THE SECOND DOSE FOR THOSE THAT RECEIVED THE FIRST SHOT A FEW WEEKS BACK, A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK.
AND THEY'VE REQUESTED THE SAME THING THAT THEY REQUESTED PREVIOUSLY, WHICH IS THE WAIVER OF THE COST FOR THE CITY STAGE AND THE STAFF HOURS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE SETUP AND MANAGEMENT OF THAT PROCESS. SO THE TOTAL VALUE THERE WOULD BE NINE HUNDRED TWENTY FOUR DOLLARS AND SEVENTY EIGHT CENTS.
I WILL MAKE NOTE OF THE FACT THAT OUR CO-SPONSORSHIP POLICY ACTUALLY DOES INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS PER NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION THERE IS, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO ONE REQUEST PER YEAR BASED ON FUNDING AVAILABILITY.
SO THIS IS THAT GROUP'S TECHNICALLY THEIR FIRST REQUEST IN THIS NEW FISCAL YEAR.
SO SORT OF AN INTERESTING TIMING BECAUSE THE PAST REQUEST WAS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS HAS WORKED OUT ON THIS ONE. BUT THAT IS A REQUEST AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER. MADAM SHERMAN.
AS IT IS DOING A. IT'S TIED TO GETTING SHOTS IN ARMS. TRUSTEE. I'M I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT.
THEY. THERE ARE DEFINITELY NON PROFIT, BUT THERE'S NO DIRECT COST, SO IT'S REALLY WELL, THERE IS STAFF COSTS, THAT'S TRUE.
IF WE REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR SERVICES PROVIDED, ALTHOUGH IT IS RELATED TO COVID AND THEY ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, I JUST IT'S NOT CLEAR I WOULD HAVE TO REALLY LOOK INTO THE REGULATION. THE FEDERAL. AND SO I THINK YOU.
TO BRING THAT UP. COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN, I NEED A MOTION.
MR. BILL BATON, FOLLOWED BY SUZANNE CONNOLLY.
I ASKED. OR CARRY ON, BILL BATTY.
YOU KNOW, BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
AND I WAS GOING TO KIND OF QUESTIONED ON THIS ONE OF ITEM NUMBER SIX C, WHICH STATED ONE YEAR WITHIN ONE YEAR.
AND PERSONALLY, THEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD IN A VERY SHORT WINDOW, SAYING, HEY, WE WANT WE WANT THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND, WELL, SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT THEY HAD THIS ORGANIZATION GOING FOR FOR QUITE A WHILE PRIOR BEFORE COMING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
IN FACT, THEY'RE EVEN LOOKING AT OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
BUT THEN THE FACT THAT THEY GOT THE WAIVER FOR THE TIMING ON THE FIRST TIME, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WITHIN THREE WEEKS, THEY'RE REQUESTING IT AGAIN.
AND THE PURPOSE FOR THE REQUEST WAS TO GIVE FOLLOW UP SHOTS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT GOT THEM WHAT IN MY QUESTION, BATON BEING THE PERSON HE IS, WHY DO I WANT TO USE CITY RESOURCES? OR A STAGE SET UP.
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SO 50 PEOPLE CAN GO GET A SHOT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.NO, IT'S FOR THEIR FOLLOW UP SHOTS, 50 PEOPLE, WE WANT TO SPEND NINE HUNDRED.
TWENTY FOUR DOLLARS, IT COULD HAVE GONE COME BACK INTO MY CITY FOR 50 PEOPLE TO GET THEIR FOLLOW UP SHOT.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A SORE SUBJECT WITH ME, BUT IT IS OCTOBER AND ONE OCTOBER WAS THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
BUT BY BILL BATON STANDARD, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME PUSH BACK HAS KIND OF PUSHED THE ENVELOPE FOR OUR POLICY ON THIS TOPIC.
SUSAN CONNOLLY. I'M A MEMBER OF THE PUSH-BACK COMMUNITY ALLIANCE.
I'M GLAD TO BE HERE, AND I FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SPONSORSHIP OF THE FIRST EVENT, WHICH WAS SEPTEMBER 18TH.
IT IS UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT A SECOND SHOT IS REQUIRED.
AND THAT'S WHAT BRINGS UP THE SECOND EVENT, WHICH IS OCTOBER 16TH.
BEFORE I GET TO THAT, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH OF THE COUNCILMAN, TO THE MAYOR AND HIS WIFE, AND TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO CAME ON SITE FOR THAT FIRST EVENT TO REALLY SEE.
THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THE PLANNING AND WHAT WENT INTO AN EVENT LIKE THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THE SECOND EVENT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE A BIT DIFFERENT.
WE'RE BUILDING ON THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN AND.
OF COURSE, THE FIRST PART OF THE SECOND EVENT WILL BE THE SECOND SHOT FOR THOSE WHO WERE VACCINATED THE FIRST TIME.
HOWEVER, WE ARE EXPANDING OUR PROMOTION AND REACHING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO REACH CHILDREN. THE VACCINE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR 12 AND OVER, AS WELL AS WE'RE OFFERING THE BOOSTER TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.
AND WE ARE ALSO DOING SPECIAL OUTREACH TO THE L3 HARRIS CORPORATION.
THE OTHER DOD CONTRACTORS WHO NOW ARE MANDATED FOR IF THEY HAVE ONE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES OR MORE, THAT THESE PEOPLE MUST BE VACCINATED.
I THINK IT'S BY NOVEMBER SOMETHING.
YEAH. SO WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO AND IN FACT, WE ARE IN OFFICIAL VACCINE SITE.
SO THE STAGE GETTING TO THE STAGE, IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL TO HAVE THE STAGE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE A LITTLE THING ON WHEELS, BUT IT IS.
IT IS A POWERFUL THING, AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE TO TO TAKE CARE OF IT, AND IT WAS A VERY IT'S A VERY NICE LOOKING STAGE.
IT WAS A FOCAL POINT OF THE EVENT.
IT ALLOWED PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT TO.
IT WAS ENTERTAINING, WITH MANY PRAISE GROUPS THAT WERE THERE.
WE ALSO HAD SOME IMPROMPTU PERFORMERS, WHICH WERE WONDERFUL.
BUT ONE OF THE BEST FEATURES OF IT, IT ALLOWED PEOPLE WHO GAVE THEIR TESTIMONY AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT IT WAS IN THEIR LIVES THEY WERE WILLING TO SHARE FROM THAT PLATFORM.
SO HAVING THE STAGE WOULD BE AN ADDITION, ALTHOUGH THE EVENT WILL GO ON WHICHEVER WAY THE COUNCIL VOTES. BUT WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY PRE-PLANNING ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO SAY COUNSEL THAT I DID ATTEND THE EVENT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT AS A, YOU KNOW, JUST A VACCINATION STOP, BUT IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN THAT. I SAW IT A COMMUNITY EVENT.
I SAW IT AS AS THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER AND AND MY WIFE AND I DID ATTEND.
AND THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE PERFORMING USING THE STAGE TO TO THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY AND NOT I THOUGHT IT WAS A WELL-ROUNDED EVENT.
AND NOW THAT I HEAR THAT, IT'S EVEN EXPANDING.
I UNDERSTAND THE GOALS OF PUTTING SHOTS IN THE ARMS, BUT I KIND OF FELT IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN THAT. IT WAS A COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER AND IT WAS A VENUE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER AND PARTICIPATED WITH EACH OTHER AND HAD BUILT RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH OTHER.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE REPRESENT.
ALSO, I THINK THIS CITY REPRESENTS BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO THAT'S FROM MY PERSPECTIVE HOW I SAW THIS EVENT.
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I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF OF THIS.I DO AGREE THAT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING NOW.
IN OUR PROCESS TO PROVIDE THERE'S POLICY NOW THAT THAT WE'VE APPROVED AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE READY TO IMPROVISE, ADAPT AND OVERCOME.
AND I WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT IN BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR CITY, WITH OUR CONSTITUENCY AND OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, ALL THE WHILE THINKING ABOUT HOW THESE RELATIONSHIPS LIFT UP FAMILIES AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT? WHICH IS TO SPEAK COUNCIL, I KNOW COUNCILMAN FELIX, I RAN INTO YOU AT THE EVENT, SIR.
AND MAYOR, I KNOW I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU ALL YOUR COMMENTS ARE ON POINT.
AS YOU SAID, IT WAS MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST A VACCINE VACCINATION EVENT.
IT WAS JUST AS GOOD BEYOND BEYOND THAT, IT'S REALLY I HAD NO OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE I NEVER MET BEFORE AND GET TO KNOW THEM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THEIR FAMILY.
AND REALLY, IT WAS A GREAT EXCHANGE.
THE TIME I WAS THERE WAS TRULY IT WAS A BLESSING.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, EVENT LIKE THAT, AS THE MAYOR SAID, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YES, WE HAVE A RULE IN PLACE.
WE HAVE CERTAIN RULES IN PLACE, BUT WE HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY BE WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE AND HELP WHEN WE CAN. COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER, THANK YOU, MARY.
I AGREE, I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD YOU SAID.
WHOLE HOLIDAY. THANK YOU FOR THE WORDS.
I AGREE WITH IT. BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, PALM BAY IS DOING OUR PART IN COMBATING COVID JUST PASSED 40 HOURS FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL.
NOW WE'RE GIVING IT TO THE COMMUNITY USING OUR STAGE.
WE HAD HAD COVID SHOTS HERE IN PALM BAY, BUT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND BRINGING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
I ASKED IF WE COULD USE THE COVERT FUNDS BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS COVID RELATED AND MAYBE IF WE CAN'T, WE STILL SHOULD PASS THIS AND CONTINUE TO BE LEADERS.
I DIDN'T SEE NOTHING SAID MELBOURNE UP THERE, ALTHOUGH THERE'S SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN MELBOURNE THAT SHOW UP.
BUT PALM BAY SHOWED UP AND WE LET AND I WANTED THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO LEAD.
I APPRECIATE EVERY, EVERY WORD THAT THE MAYOR EXPRESSED.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I WAS GOING TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE MY YEAH, BUT MY MY QUESTION WAS SHE ANSWERED WAS ARE THEY BECAUSE PRIMARILY THIS WAS FOR SECOND SHOTS? BUT ARE THEY ADMINISTERING NEW SHOTS ON THIS ONE? SO THE ANSWER IS YES. SO THAT MEANS THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A FOLLOW UP AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD BE REOCCURRING.
SO IT'S AT THAT POINT. I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS ASKING IN REGARDS TO ARPA BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THIS ONE BECAUSE THAT'S THE POLICY.
SO. SO I DO WANT TO JUST THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ON THAT BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, IF THEY USE THE JOHNSON AND JOHNSON THE ONE AND DONE, I THINK IT'D BE JUST JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, RIGHT? BUT ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
YOU'RE TEARING. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A MOTION CONSIDERATION.
NO, NO MOTION. I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE PRIOR ITEM.
WE TALK WITH AN ITEM NUMBER THREE, WE JUST VOTED.
WELL, MAYOR, CAN I? OH, AS YOU WERE. ALL RIGHT.
MOST MOTION APPROVED CO-SPONSORING THE SPONSORSHIP AND WAIVING OF AIDS FEE CAUSED BY SIR.
I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CO SPONSORSHIP WITH THE WAIVING OF THE STAGE FEE AND STAFF TIME COSTS VALUED AT NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR DOLLARS AND SEVENTY EIGHT CENTS. SO I CAN INVITE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. I PASS HIS UNANIMOUSLY.
YOU'RE UP NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
YES, MAYOR STAFF IS REQUESTING COUNCIL CONSENSUS FOR SCHEDULING TWO WORKSHOP MEETINGS.
THE FIRST IS FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19TH AT SIX P.M.
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IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISIONING STUDY, AND THE SECOND IS FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20 SIX AT SIX P.M.AT THE TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND PERMITTING PROCESS. IF I MAY.
YEAH, I'M COMPLETELY GOOD WITH BOTH OF THEM.
OKAY. HUH? I THINK I THINK WE'RE ALL I'M GOOD WITH THAT, I THINK I GET THOSE DATES, BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A SPECIAL.
QUESTION, I THINK EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHEN WAS THAT DATE? MY CALENDAR. WELL.
OK. AS YOU WERE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WITH ALL THESE DATES THAT I'M NOT OVERBOOKING MYSELF HERE. SO YES, I'M GOOD WITH BOTH THOSE TUESDAYS AS 1800 HOURS.
SO YOU HAVE CONSISTENT CONSENSUS.
SO NOW WE'RE ON ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.
MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO PUT ON THE RECORD.PREVIOUSLY, COUNCIL HAD APPROVED OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE NEW YEAR AND WE WE STAFF MADE A QUICK CHANGE.
LAST WEEK WE HELD BRIEFINGS WITH SENATOR MAYFIELD AND REPRESENTATIVE FINE.
AND THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT GAVE US FEEDBACK.
AND THAT FEEDBACK LED US TO REALIZE THAT THE REQUESTS WE HAD IN THE AS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES WAS FOR DREDGING, AND NEITHER NEITHER OF THEM WERE AS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TYPE OF REQUEST. THEY WERE LOOKING FOR APPROPRIATION TYPE REQUESTS THAT WORKED ON SOLVING PROBLEMS BEFORE THE PROBLEM GETS IN THE WATER AND, YOU KNOW, CREATES THE MUCK AND YOU NEED THE DREDGING. SO BASED ON THEIR FEEDBACK, INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, THAT WAS ONE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR DREDGING IN THE TURKEY CREEK AREA.
I MENTIONED THIS THIS TO A CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE REVISED OUR REQUEST AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION LAST LAST WEDNESDAY.
AND SO OUR REVISED REQUEST WAS A PROJECT TOTAL OF $1.2 MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THE STATE.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE A THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND MATCH FROM EITHER THE STORMWATER FUND OR HOPEFULLY A SUCCESSFUL APPLICATION TO A REFINED GRANT, AND THAT WOULD HELP US ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT AN ADDITIONAL FIVE BAFFLE BOXES IN THE TURKEY CREEK BASIN AREA, FOUR OF WHICH WE STAFF HAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY DESIGNED AND PERMITTED.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT CHANGE.
I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE IT, FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAD PREVIOUSLY VOTED ON IT, BUT WE DID HAVE TO MAKE A QUICK SHIFT IN OUR OUR APPLICATION LAST WEEK BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK. SO AND THAT'S ALL FOR ME.
I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND COUNCILMAN FELIX WERE PRESENT AT THE DELEGATION MEETING. OUR TEAM DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF PRESENTING.
I WAS QUITE PLEASED AND IT WAS REALLY EXCITING THAT THE DELEGATION IS LOOKING AT.
GENTLEMEN, THAT IS HUGE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE YOUNGER, IF I WERE LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I WOULD HAVE DONE A BACK FLIP AT THE PODIUM.
BUT THANK GOD THAT I'M NOT THAT YOUNG ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DO THAT. BUT HOW EXCITING IT WAS FOR ME.
I DID A SPIRITUAL BACKFLIP, BY THE WAY, BUT IT WAS EXCITING TIMES.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, MAN, BECAUSE IT WAS HUGE.
WHAT AN AWESOME PRESENTATION AND OR WITNESS.
OTHER CITIES AND AND I THINK OUR CITY SHINED THE MOST.
JUST I'M JUST SAYING CITY OF PALM BAY SHINE THE MOST IN THAT PRESENTATION.
HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, I NEED TO SEEK YOUR ADVICE CONCERNING THE FOLLOWING LITIGATION MATTER PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO EIGHTY SIX POINT ELEVEN SUBSECTION EIGHT FOR STATUES.
CITY OF PALM BAY CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE 20 20 S.
A. ZERO FIVE FOUR SIX SIX FOUR HAVE COORDINATED A TIME WHEN COUNCIL IS AVAILABLE.
THE MEETING SHOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY 30 MINUTES.
ATTENDEES WILL BE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS AND CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WHEN? GILBERT AND FIVE EIGHTY SIX
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OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, FIVE BAFFLE BOXES.BUT I'D ALSO STILL LIKE TO HAVE SEEN THE TURKEY CREEK DREDGED OUT AND CLEARED OUT SOME OF THE OVERGROWTH AND SOME OF THE BLOCKAGE IS HAPPENING IN IN THE CREEK, BUT.
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I WOULD HAVE TAKEN EITHER ONE OF THEM, TO BE HONEST.WITH THAT BEING SAID, ITEM NUMBER TWO.
WHEN A PERSON BREAKS, THE LAW IS A LEGAL OR ILLEGAL.
SIMPLE QUESTION, SO WHEN IF I SEE SOMEBODY BREAKING THE LAW, THAT PERSON TO ME IS AN ILLEGAL PERSON DOING SOMETHING WRONG, THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW.
IF I'M SPEEDING, THAT'S ILLEGAL MAKES ME ILLEGAL IN WHAT I'M DOING.
SO THE TERMINOLOGY IS THAT SOMETIMES AFFECTS PEOPLE'S PERSONAL FEELINGS.
I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THE TERMINOLOGY IS.
WHEN I SEE THE IDENTIFIABLE BEHAVIOR AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL, NOT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN, I'M LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUALS DISPLAYED BEHAVIOR.
AND TO ME, IF THEY'RE BREAKING SOMETHING THAT BY LAW, U.S.
LAW, NOT SOME OTHER COUNTRIES LAW, U.S.
LAW UNDER CONSTITUTIONAL, UNDER CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, IN FACT.
THAT INDIVIDUAL IS BREAKING THE LAW MAKES HIM AN ILLEGAL.
THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT, IF THE TERM BOTHERS YOU, I'M.
I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAS THAT IMPACT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT IS.
AS FOR LOOKING FOR THE PERSONAL ANGUISH THAT THE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING THROUGH, I PROMISE YOU, I HAVE SEEN IT.
I PROMISE YOU, I HAVE LIVED THROUGH IT.
I PROMISE YOU, I'VE BEEN IN THE SAME PREDICAMENTS AS YOU HAVE WATCHED.
I'VE BEEN THERE WITH MY FEET ON THE GROUND IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, WITH THE HUMAN FECES ON MY SHOES. SO YES, I HAVE SEEN IT.
I DO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF IT, BUT I AM ALSO TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE DO STUFF THE CORRECT WAY, AND THERE IS A PROCESS ON WHICH TO DO IT.
AND WHEN I SEE THEM OVERRUNNING PEOPLE AND SAYING STOP THINGS LIKE WHIPPING THEM ON HORSEBACK. THE REAL MOVIE, THE REAL SHOW OF THAT WAS THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
AND TO USE THAT IN A PUBLIC STATEMENT WAS 100 PERCENT FALSE.
HE WAS NOT WHIPPING THEM WITH THE RAINS.
HE WAS ACTUALLY RIDING THE HORSE AND APPROPRIATE MANNER, AS IF THEY'VE BEEN USED IN THE SAME LOCATION FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME BECAUSE CROWD CONTROL ON HORSEBACK IS CONTROL WITH THE REINS OF MANEUVER.
HE WAS NOT WHIPPING THE INDIVIDUAL INTO CALL IT OUT THAT WAY.
I HAVE THE ABILITY TO READDRESS AND WITH THAT I AM THANK YOU.
YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE'LL SEE YOU IN ON THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.