LIKE TO CALL AN ORDER OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 17,
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2021, IT'S NOW ONE O'CLOCK.I'M THE PERSON THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTIONS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COME FORWARD AND PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THE CITY WILL PROVIDE A RESPONSE AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND WHATEVER EVIDENCE THE CITY PUT ON.
THAT'S THE GENERAL PROCEDURE, AND I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO THE CLERK TO HAVE ANY
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WITNESSES SWORN IN.GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU, GOD.
THANK YOU. MAYBE SEATED. OUR FIRST CASE TO BE HEARD IS ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA,
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S.B. ONE SEVEN ZERO ZERO EIGHT ONE FIVE THREE 70 LINKED THEM STREET SOUTHEAST AND THE CODE OFFICER TODAY IS A MANUAL SORT OF.GOOD AFTERNOON. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.
DAVID MOALLEM SIXTEEN POINT SIXTY THREE GEORGIA STREET, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.
HE. UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY I SOLD TO MR. PAUL MATHIAS IN DECEMBER ONE, 2002.
I DID PROVIDE HIM WITH THE OWNER FINANCING.
AND. HE STOPPED MAKING PAYMENTS TO ME AFTER THE FINANCIAL COLLAPSE IN 2008.
HE DID NOT PAY MY MORTGAGE, AND HE DID NOT MAKE PROPERTY TAXES.
WE WERE VERY FINANCIALLY WEAK THROUGH FORECLOSURE.
CONVINCE HIM TO GIVE ME THE PROPERTY BACK IN 2017.
A DEED IN A QUIT CLAIM DEED IN LIEU OF FORECLOSURE.
AND I PAID ALL THE TAXES IN BETWEEN TIME.
KNOWLEDGE OF THAT, THERE WAS A CODE ISSUE.
I TAKE THE COURT MATTERS VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I IMMEDIATELY TAKE CARE OF THEM.
2021 SINCE APRIL, THIS IS THAT MANY CODES I GET AND I COMPLY TO ALL OF THEM.
MOST OF THE CODE OFFICERS, THEY KNOW US.
THIS ONE, I HAD NO CLUE UNTIL WE RECENTLY DID A TRANSACTION AND IT WAS SHOWED UP OVER THERE. UH, I'M AT THE MERCY OF THE.
AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE WAS A COLD CASE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT UNDER OWNERSHIP AT THE TIME, SO HE WAS BASICALLY MR. PAUL MATYAS.
WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF LOSSES TAKING THE PROPERTY BACK ALREADY.
CODE OFFICER EMMANUEL SOTO, WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO REDUCTION OF THE. LEANS ON WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE CITY'S OUT OF POCKET COSTS AND ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, ADMINISTRATIVE FEE IS SEVEN FIFTY AND MOWING COSTS IS 183 TWENTY FIVE.
NOW, SINCE THE CITY'S POSITION IS I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO REDUCTION, BUT THOSE TWO NUMBERS THAT YOU JUST GAVE US A.
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IS HEARING. ALMOST EQUATES TO THE AMOUNT OF THE FINE RIGHT NOW.BASICALLY, YOU'RE. EVER REDUCTION YOU'RE AGREEING TO IS MINIMAL.
I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE MONSTER THE CITY REQUIRE.
CITY HAS 183 DOLLARS AND 25 CENTS OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET.
I UNDERSTAND WE GOT TO PAY THAT AND WE GOT TO PAY OFF.
THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ARE FOR THEM TO PROCESS A COMPLAINT.
YES, BEGINNING THROUGH TO THE TIME THAT THE.
THE NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE PAID AND THE COST, THE COST THAT THEY HAVE.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEIR TOTAL COSTS ARE NINE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE DOLLARS AND TWENTY, EXCUSE ME, NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE DOLLARS AND TWENTY FIVE CENTS.
WELL, THAT INCLUDES THE FIFTY DOLLARS A DAY PENALTIES.
SUMMARIZING WHAT THEIR TESTIMONY IS, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAD SAID THAT'S MORE THAN FAIR. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHICH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MORE, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT MRS. SOTO SAID IS THAT YOU WANT YOU WANTED THE $50 A DAY FINE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, SEVEN FIFTY AND THE MOINE COST.
ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, HOW MUCH? 750. THE STATS INCLUDE THAT FIFTY DOLLARS A DAY PENALTY.
CITIES, THE CITIES COMES UP ALL THE TIME.
CITY'S ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ARE NOT DEFINED.
THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ARE FROM THE TIME THAT THE CITY.
BITES THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR A VIOLATION.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE THING.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME ANY BREAK.
AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE ALWAYS RESPECTED THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO THE POINT IS KILLING ME AND I HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT, BUT I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS ISSUE.
AND MY RESPONSE TO THAT IS, IS THAT.
YOU TAKE PROPERTY BACK BY A QUICK CLAIM DEED, YOU TAKE TITLE TO THE PROPERTY ON WHATEVER THE TITLE IS.
I GUESS THE SAME SAME THING WITH THE FORECLOSURE SALE ON A TAX DEED SALE.
OR THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS.
I ISSUE A LOT OF THE VACANT LOT CASES IS VALUED A LOT VERSUS.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR IS EVERY DAY.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I COME BY THIS BOARD AND AMONG HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THESE THINGS THAT I GET, IT IS ONLY ONE.
AND. IS THE REDUCE THE FINE ALL THAT ARE IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE FINE TO FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT DOLLARS AND 25 CENTS? APPROXIMATELY HALF OF WHAT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND I WANT TO TAKE FORMALLY THE ORDER REQUIRES TO BE PAID IN 30 DAYS.
IS THAT A PROBLEM? NO, WE ARE GOING TO BE PAINTED IMMEDIATELY.
BUT IN THE ORDER TO BE PAID IN 30 DAYS, THANK YOU.
THE NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA S.B.
ONE NINE THREE FIVE FOUR DASH ONE EIGHT AT THREE 14 BRANTLEY STREET SOUTHEAST.
THE CODE OFFICER IS A MANUAL, SORT OF.
HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JOSEPH FLYNN, WHO PRESENTED A PHOTO OF BOMBAY BAY.
OF 314 BUTLER STREET, SOUTHEAST, THREE, TWO, NINE OR NINE.
OF THE WHEN WE WHEN THE CHURCH TAKEOVER BY A QUAKE LANDED PROPERTY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THAT THE PROBLEM WAS SO SEVERE AND WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT.
AND THE PROBLEMS NEED TO BE CORRECTED, FIRST OF ALL, THE PERSON WHO STARTED THE PRESUMED TO HAVE A LICENSE UNTIL LATER WILL FIND OUT THEY ONLY HAVE A WOOFING LICENSE TO REPAIR THE PATIO, WHICH IS THEN CLOSED THE PATIO.
AND THEN WHEN WE REALLY FIND OUT THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LICENSE.
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SO SINCE THEN WE TRY TO GET A CONTRACTOR LICENSE.SO LIKE A ENGINEERING AND HE WAS EVERYBODY GO THERE AND THEY TOLD US, OK, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO CITY AND THEN THEY'VE NEVER BEEN.
AND THEN UNTIL THEN WE GOT A CORVETTE.
I THINK HURRICANE IRMA WAS HIT AND THAT PERIOD WE COULDN'T DO MUCH.
AND THEN WE STILL TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY CORRECT, A PROBLEM WE COULDN'T.
AND THEN WHEN THE COVID HIT, COME MAKE THE THING WORSE AND WE COULDN'T SOLVE IT UNTIL WE REALIZED THE BEST COURSE IS TO DEMOLISH THAT THE PATIO THAT THEY WERE CLOSED.
SO THAT'S WHY THE CHURCH SENT ME OVER TO SEE IF IT'S ANYTHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO FOR US IN THAT MATTER. WHEN DID THE CHURCH FIRST BECOME AWARE OF THE VIOLATION? I THINK ABOUT WHAT ALMOST A YEAR CLOSE TO A YEAR AFTER WE WE GOT IT, WE GOT A GOOD CANDIDATE AND WE HAVE A LETTER THEN.
AND ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS I HAVE, YOU GOT THE OBTAIN TITLE TO THE PROPERTY IN NOVEMBER OF 2017.
RIGHT? SO YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT TOWARD THE END OF, OH YEAH, PROBABLY ABOUT THAT TIME. I MEAN, WHAT SHE SAID IS SHE SAID IT WASN'T NOTHING MAJOR OR SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE ANYBODY ON THE FIX.
THAT'S WHAT WE WAS ANTICIPATE UNTIL WE KEPT CALLING EVERYBODY.
WE'RE CALLING THE LICENSED CONTRACTOR OR ENGINEER.
THEY TAUGHT US SOMETHING OTHERWISE AND THEN NOT ONLY DIED ALONE, YOU CALL SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE INFORMATION.
THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO THE CITY AND PULL THE PERMIT, AND THEN THEY WAIT FOR COUPLE OF MAYBE SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS.
HOW MUCH YOU KNOW YOU, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THE CHURCH PAID.
OH, TO GET UP, TRY AND HIRE THE ENGINEER AND THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, WELL, ACTUALLY, NOBODY EVER TOOK MONEY FROM US.
THEY JUST SAY THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND THEN FIND OUT WHAT THE CITY REQUIRE IS THE REQUIREMENT IS AND WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WERE UNTIL THEY CAN SEE IF THEY CAN DO ANYTHING. HOW MUCH MONEY DID THE CHURCH EXPEND TO REMOVE THE PORTION? WELL, THE GUY WHO REMOVED THE CHARGES ABOUT ABOUT SIX HUNDRED.
THEY GOT EVERYTHING WITH THE DEBRIS, WITH EVERYTHING, BUT THERE PROBABLY IS.
I MEAN, ACTUALLY THE FLOW ALREADY THERE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THE FLOOR WAS ORIGINALLY THERE, SO WE DON'T THEY TELL YOU WE DON'T TAKE OFF THE FLOOR.
WE ONLY TAKE OFF THE STRUCTURE OF THE OF THE BUILDING MODIFICATIONS WITH THE CHURCH TRYING TO MAKE ORDER TO GET THE PERMIT.
BUT ME WITH MODIFICATIONS WITH THE CHURCH TRYING TO MAKE IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMIT TO JUST TO BECAUSE THERE WAS A SKIN PATIO.
SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TRY TO DO IT LIKE SUCH LIKE A FLOYD ALBUM.
THEY PUT WINDOWS AND DOORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION OR OFFICER IN MINNESOTA WITH THE CITY OF BOMBAY? THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO REDUCTION OF THE LEAN'S, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL OF THE CITY'S OUT OF POCKET COSTS AND ADMINISTRATION FEES ARE COLLECTED.
SEVEN FIFTY IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE AND FIVE PERCENT OF THE FINES.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, FINES ARE ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FOUR OR SEVENTY TWO AS OF TODAY.
WITH THAT AGAIN, YOU SAID A HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FOUR DOLLARS AND SEVENTY TWO CENTS.
A LITTLE OVER $5000 IN FINES AND ALSO THE FIVE PERCENT.
THE 07:50 ADMINISTRATION FEE PLUS.
SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS PLUS.
PORTION OF THE FINES, WHICH IS FIVE PERCENT.
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OUTSTANDING FINES, OUTSTANDING FINES OR ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FOUR DOLLARS AND SEVENTY TWO.THE. THE FIRST 25 PERCENT. QUESTION.
ON ONE OF THE SHEETS THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED.
HE HAS FINDS THE DATE OF FIFTEEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN TOTAL FINES OUT OF ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS BUT HER.
TOTAL FINES ARE FIFTEEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THAT IS TESTIMONY THAT FIFTEEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED.
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MR NO, THE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF THE FINES IS FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY TWO DOLLARS AND SIX CENTS.MAY I ASK ONE QUESTION? MR. SOTO. NO INDICATED THAT.
THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE REGARDING THE FAILURE OF WHOEVER TO BUILD THE PERMIT. THEY DID THE CHURCH ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE CITY, THEY WERE TRYING TO DO ANY OF THAT. NOT AT ALL, BECAUSE THIS WAS MY CASE BEFORE, SO I KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
THERE WAS MULTIPLE TIMES I WENT OUT AND POST THE PROPERTY.
OF THE WOMEN OVER THE COURSE OF THIS.
OH, THAT WAY. ME AND MYSELF, I COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE CITY MORE THAN SIX TIMES MYSELF TO SEE I WENT IN THERE AND WHO DID YOU TALK TO? I IT WAS A LADY AT THE FIRST DEPARTMENT.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING? IT WASN'T CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I WENT IN THERE AND TOLD THEM THEY TOLD ME WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THEY TOLD ME, IF WE CAN HAVE AN ENGINEERING, DO IT, IT AND THEN.
IT'S NOT THE BUILDINGS DEPARTMENT.
YES, AND NO OTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND I WENT USUALLY TO TRANSFER ME.
THEY TOLD ME WHETHER IT WAS A LADY THAT IN CHARGE OF THAT AND THEN SHE DON'T KNOW.
SHE PROBABLY DONE WITH IT AND TRANSFERRED.
BUT I TALKED TO THE CITY SEVERAL TIMES MYSELF.
THINK THAT LAST YEAR? NO, LAST YEAR I DIDN'T, BECAUSE I WAS COVERED A YEAR BEFORE I WENT IN THERE TO ASK HIM WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT THE BEST THING I DO IF WE DON'T HAVE TO DEMOLISHED IT.
THEY TOLD ME THAT THE ONLY BEST WAY TO DO IT IF WE CAN GET AN ENGINEERING.
TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SIGN IT AND SAY EVERYTHING OK.
YEAH, EVERYBODY, WHOEVER GOT THEIR ENGINEERING GO THERE.
THEY TOLD US THEY GOT TO GO TO THE CITY AND THEN THEY WAIT THE WITH, YOU KNOW, TO TALK TO US. THAT'S THE REASON.
THEN I REMEMBER THE LAST PERSON I TALKED TO, THEY TOLD ME THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE THIS STOP, THIS IS TO DEMOLISH IT.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WE GO AHEAD WITH THE POLISH.
I MEAN, THE CHURCH IS A SMALL CHURCH AND THE MONEY IS VERY BIG MONEY.
I MEAN, IF WE KNOW WE, WE SHOULD BE PAID THE CONSEQUENCES WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I'M SURE THE OTHER THAN THAT, THE MASS ACTION THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE TO SELL THE PROPERTY. AND PAY THIS, WHICH IS MIGHT TAKE SOME TIME.
OR I WILL GO IF YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS.
THE GUY I CAN HELP TO REDUCE THE FIRE AND WE PROMISE THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
THIS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT, I WOULD SAY, MISJUDGE ON OUR PART.
WE OVER THE. IF WE IF WE IF WE DO CLOSING, WE ARE CLOSING THE TARGET COMPANY FOR THE DOLLAR, SUCH THEY WOULDN'T FIND OUT.
ONLY THING. WE TOOK OUR WORD FOR IT.
THE CITY SAY EVERYTHING SHOULD BE OK, BLAH BLAH BLAH.
SO WE PROMISED THAT THIS THING WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN SO YOUR GUY CAN HELP US WITH.
JUST TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR VERBAL.
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NOW, HERE'S HERE'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE ON SOME LEVEL IS THAT.DISCOVERED. WELL, LET ME GO BACK ONE STEP WHEN YOU TAKE PROPERTY BY QUICK CLAIM DEED, YOU TAKE WHATEVER IS THERE, RIGHT? AND. YOU KNOW.
WOULD HAVE DONE A NORMAL CLOSING, THIS WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP.
I KNOW HAVE NO IDEA THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHY YOU DID THAT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S HOW YOU ACQUIRE TITLE TO THE PROPERTY, SO YOU BOUGHT THE GOOD AND THE BAD, SO TO SPEAK.
FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ISSUE IN 2018.
AND YOU ALSO TESTIFIED THAT YOU DIDN'T APPROACH THE CITY UNTIL 2019 ABOUT IT.
NO. WE APPROACH THE CITY, AND THAT TIME LATER WHEN WE FOUND OUT, BUT THEY TOLD US WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU DIDN'T.
MY POINT, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT IT IN 2018 DID NOT AND YOU TESTIFIED THAT YOU DID NOT APPROACH THE CITY UNTIL 2019 ABOUT IT.
SO MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU KNEW THIS PROBLEM EXISTED, YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
YOU JUST YOU DIDN'T GO APPROACH THE CITY TO FIND OUT WHAT WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR SOME TIME, WHATEVER THAT TIME WAS.
UM. I ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD ISSUES WITH PEOPLE TRYING, YOU KNOW, SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY DIDN'T DO IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT ALL THE FACTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT I HAVE TO CONSIDER. UM.
ULTIMATELY SPENT MONEY TO REMOVE THE REMOVE THE PATIO TO.
CHURCH WAS AT PARTIAL FAULT AND NOT PURSUING IMMEDIATELY, SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO ENTER AN ORDER.
ROOM FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND CHANGE TO.
THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX DOLLARS AND THREE CENTS.
AND WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM IS THE 750 DOLLARS THAT THE CITY TESTIFIED FOR THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
AND I REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND A HALF.
OK. NOW, THE NEXT QUESTION IS, IS THAT.
ORDER WE PUT DOWN WHEN THE FINE IS GOING TO BE PAID, NORMALLY IT'S IN 30 OR 60 DAYS, OH, 60 DAYS, IT WAS 60 DAYS, HUH? OH, THAT WAS THE TOTAL IS THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX DOLLARS AND THREE CENTS. EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX, THREE, THREE EIGHT SIX POINT ZERO THREE.
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IF IT'S NOT PAID IN IN 60 DAYS, THE CURRENT FINE WILL BE REINSTATED.SO IF YOU DON'T PAY IT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THE CURRENT FINE OF OVER $100000 WILL BE REINSTATED. OK, OTHER ALTERNATIVE IF FOR SOME REASON.
WE WANT TO EXTEND LATER DATE ON THAT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT OR NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO ME. BACK TO YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I TRY TO PRESSURE.
NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD AS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA, S.B.
ONE NINE EIGHT THREE FOUR DASH ONE NINE TEN NINETY FIVE HOOPER AVENUE, NORTHEAST THE CODE OFFICER IS SABRINA PERKINS AND THIS IS A PHONE CONFERENCE.
COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? YOU HAVE INFLICTED.
WHAT CAN I UNDERSTAND? YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING DMD MANAGEMENT.
YES, SIR. GO THE NORMAL PROCEDURE.
I'M JAMES BEETLE. I'M THE PERSON THAT'S BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL PALM BAY TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTIONS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS.
AND THE NORMAL PROCEDURE IS IS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDES THEIR INITIAL EVIDENCE AND ARGUMENT AND THEN THE CITY RESPONDS AND THEN THE APPLICANT CAN RESPOND TO THE CITY'S EVIDENCE. YOU UNDERSTAND.
YES. OK, YOU CAN PROCEED THEN.
IT'S JUST A SIMPLE CASE OF SERIES OF EVENTS FOR BOYS, AND THERE'S A BIG MISCOMMUNICATION.
THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE CITATION OR THE LEAD, EVEN ACTUALLY JUST UNTIL LAST WEEK. AND THEY.
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IMMEDIATELY, SO THE ADDRESS OR THE MAILING.OF DMV MANAGEMENT THAT'S LISTED ON THE NOTICE, WAS THERE A TRUST OF SIX YEARS AGO, HASN'T BEEN IN THAT ADDRESS FOR A LONG TIME AND I DO ALSO KNOW THAT SO SOMEONE SIGNED FORWARD THERE? YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE THERE WAS A NOTICE POSTED ON THE DOOR AT THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE'S A TENANT THERE.
THE OWNERS LIVE FAR AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY AND THE TENANT, AND THEY NEVER SAW THAT AS THE TENANT, I MUST HAVE THROWN IT OUT.
SO ANYWAYS, THEY'RE SELLING THE PROPERTY NOW.
TRUTH BE TOLD, AND THEY THAT'S THE WAY THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE THE LEASE CAME UP IN THAT TITLE SEARCH.
IMMEDIATELY, THEY'VE CORRECTED ALL THE VIOLATIONS.
THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN INSPECTED AND THAT'S BEEN CONFIRMED.
SO ALL THE VIOLATIONS ARE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY UPON FIRST KNOWING ABOUT THIS, UNFORTUNATELY. AND YOU KNOW, I'LL BE SURE TO.
IT'S A NO, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A.
WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION ON THIS? THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN THE REDUCTION OF THE LANES WITH THE UNDERSTANDING ALL THIS OUT OF POCKET COSTS AND ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED OUT OF POCKET COSTS OR SEVEN HUNDRED. ASKING FOR COST.
PLOTKIN, DID YOU HEAR HER TESTIMONY? IT'S SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS PLUS NINE PERCENT OF THAT IS THAT WAS CORRECT, NINE PERCENT OF THE FINES.
WELL, NINE PERCENT OF THE 750.
OH, NINE PERCENT OF THE FINES, THE FINES ARE SEVENTY THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN DOLLARS AND NINETY EIGHT CENTS.
SHH. OH, IT'S SO NINE PERCENT IS AROUND SEVEN.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CLEAN TRACK RECORD.
WE IN ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES, WE KNOW THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM.
THEY ACTUALLY OWNED THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT PROBLEM FOR A LONG TIME.
IT FELT LIKE THEY, YOU KNOW, STARTED OWNING IT AND THEN IT WENT DOWNHILL.
THEY WERE THEY ONLY FOR A WHILE THEY JUST HAD A BED IN THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE REALLY DONE EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER OUT OF ALL RESPECT.
AND IMMEDIATELY HAD YOU LIKE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE DO FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT SORT OF OPERATION? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME VIOLATION FOR THEM.
IS THAT YOUR POSITION AT THIS POINT? YES. I'M REQUESTING FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT FOR THE NINE PERCENT.
OR WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE? AT THE SIX PERCENT, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THE NINE PERCENT WOULD BE SIX THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS AND 42 CENTS, AND THE FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT WOULD BE THIRTY ONE POINT EIGHTY SEVEN SEVENTY ONE.
IT COSTS US TO SEVEN FIFTY, CORRECT? MR. PARKER, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT MY SITTING HERE IS, THE MAGISTRATE, LET ME JUST ADVISE YOU WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE.
I GUESS THE FIRST ONE IS IS ARGUABLY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FROM YOUR SIDE PRESENTED OTHER THAN YOUR ARGUMENT. THE.
THE ONLY REAL EVIDENCE IS FROM THE CITY.
HE. THE OTHER ISSUE IS WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OR NOT, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S A CITY OF PALM BAY OR ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. THE ONLY OBLIGATION THAT THE BOARD HAS IS TO OR EXCUSE ME, THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE IS TO REFER TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS WEBSITE AND OR THE
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TAX COLLECTOR'S WEBSITE TO OBTAIN THE ADDRESSES FOR THE OWNERS OF PROPERTY.SO IF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY DID NOT MAINTAIN A CURRENT ADDRESS AS TO THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT ON THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
SO I UNDERSTAND THEY DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE, BUT THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN A CURRENT ADDRESS WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OR THE TAX COLLECTORS OFFICE.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE TO CONSIDER.
WHO KNOWS THEM? WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO ENTER AN ORDER REDUCING THE FINES.
WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO ENTER AN ORDER.
YOU'VE SEEN THE FINE, THE SIX THOUSAND SIXTY TWO DOLLARS AND EIGHTY FIVE CENTS, AND THAT IS COMPRISED OF $750 ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND.
THE QUESTION IS, IS NORMALLY I PUTTING THE ORDER WHEN THE FINES HAVE TO BE PAID IS THERE AND NORMALLY IT'S 30 DAYS, IS THAT AN ISSUE? UH. EACH CAN YOU DO 45? YES. SO WOULD YOU MIND SAYING THAT WHAT IS THE 7.5 PERCENT NUCLEAR SEVEN POINT FIVE PERCENT EQUALS FIVE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND TWELVE DOLLARS AND EIGHTY FIVE CENTS.
AND THEN THE 750 ADDS UP TO SIX THOUSAND SIXTY TWO EIGHTY FIVE.
AND JUST SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE FINES NOT PAID WITHIN THE 45 DAYS, THE CURRENT FINE GETS REINSTATED. INTERESTING.
THAT'S IT, THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET ALL, GET A COPY OF THE ORDER? IT'LL BE SENT TO YOU AFTER I SIGN IT.
HE WILL NOT BE ELECTRONICALLY OR, YOU KNOW.
YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW THEY DO IT.
OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, SIR.
ONE NINE FIVE THREE FIVE DASH ONE EIGHT AT FOUR FIFTY EIGHT WAYLAND ROAD, SOUTHWEST IS NOT CURRENTLY PRESENT.
HIS LEG GOT AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO GET HERE TODAY.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I HAVE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING.
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THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED AT 1:45 P.M..* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.