[6:30 P.M., HOLIDAY MERRIMENT, HERITAGE HIGH CHOIR]
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FROM THE HERITAGE AMBASSADOR SO FAR, I'VE HEARD.
AND WITH US NOW, YOU CAN GO SING WITH US.
YEAH, YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF? WELCOME COVER BELLS, SWEET SILVER BELLS ALL SEEM TO SAY THROW AWAY CHRISTMAS IS HERE BRINGING THE CHEER TO YOUNG AND OLD MECHANICAL DING DING DING DONG.
THIS A SONG WHICH NO ONE SEEMS TO HEAR WORDS OF A CHEER FROM EVERYWHERE YOU ALL OF THE ROAD RAISING THE SONG.
OUT. ZONES SHARE CHRISTMAS, AS YOU DID MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY VOTERS WHO SAID FROM THE TIME I'VE READ THE BELLS, SWEET SILVER BELLS ALL SEEM TO SAY, THIS IS HERE, BRING YOUR CHAIR, DO YOUR OWN THING, AND NO ONE SEEMS TO HEAR WORDS FROM EVERYWHERE. THE MEDIA FRENZY FOR SO LONG IN THE TOOTH.
PEOPLE SING SONGS OF THIS YEAR, AND CHRISTMAS IS MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY BAKERS SAID NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
THEY SAID WITHOUT A JOYFUL TONE TO EVERY DAY.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA.
YOU HAVE TO BE KNOWN FOR DOING WHAT IS A BAD NEWS ACT.
IT BE WRONG FOR JOHNSON, SUZANNE AND MORE.
BUT IT IS A GOOD SHOT TO BE SO MUCH MORE.
YES. NOW RESPONDED TO MY QUESTION, WHAT'S POSSIBLE IN THE.
MARGARET CHO DOES IT, BUT IT DOES JUST STAY ON IN TERMS OF CLASS WARFARE. ALL THIS COMING ALONG, JOHNSON.
NOW THE TIME HAS GONE RIGHT LESS THAN.
OH, COME, LET US ADORE HIM, O COME.
SO ADORE HIM, OH, COME, LET US AUTO.
CHRIST, THE LORD, ALL COME ALL YE, FAITHFUL, JOYFUL AND TRIUMPHANT, OH, CALL ME, OH, COME TO.
HAS ALREADY HONED IN ON KNOCKING ALL DAY, SO SO-CALLED.
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OW, OW, OW, OW, OW, OW, OW.LAUNDRY, GRETHE BOARD THIS HAPPY MORNING, JESUS TO THEE, BE ALL.
RICKY? WE'RE HOPING FOR THE KING OF DANGER, SO SIDE, SEIDEL, OH. SEIDEL HERE.
NIGHTS WE MET, I WAS MAGICAL, BRIAN.
I MAY BE RIGHT, I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I'M PERFECTLY.
OH, HOW COULD WE KNOW WE TWO WERE SO IN LOVE THE WHOLE TIME THE WORLD SEEMED UPSIDE DOWN? THE STREETS OF TIRE.
MS., IT WAS SUCH A ROMANTIC OFFER.
DOES WE KISS AND SAID GOODBYE? NIGHTINGALE SANG IN BERKELEY SQUARE.
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THIS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU.I. IT'S IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TIME OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S GOOD STREET SPREADING, SO MUCH CHEER.
WE PLAYED IN THE WINTER SNOW, BUT I'M TO BE UNDER THE MISTLETOE MS. ON THE HOLIDAY, BUT I CAN'T STOP STARING AT YOUR FACE.
I SHOULD BE PLAYING IN THE WINTER, SO I'M GONNA BE UNDER THE MISTLETOE WITH YOU.
SHERMAN, DO YOU? THE MISTLETOE, EVERYONE'S GOT THE RING AROUND THE FIRE.
CHESTNUTS ROASTING HOT TO LIGHT.
I SHOW EACH OTHER WHEN MY FOLKS, I KNOW, BUT I'M A BEE UNDER THE MISTLETOE ON THE SHEETS AND IT'S COMING TO NINE.
FLYING THROUGH THE SKY SO HARD, I SHOULD BE MAKING A LIST.
SO. DO WE DEAL WITH YOU STARTING WITH YOU, WITH YOU, UNDER THE MISTLETOE, WITH YOU? SO YOU DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU UNDER THE MISTLETOE.
I LOVE THE WIVES AND FOLLOWED.
I LOVE. DON'T YOU BUY ME, DON'T YOU BUY ME NOTHING, REALLY? ONE THING YOUR LIPS ON MY LIPS? THAT'S A MERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS.
IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TIME OF THE YEAR.
FLIGHTS TO THE STREET SPREADING SO MUCH CHEER.
I SHOULD BE PLAYING IN THE WINTER SUN, BUT I'M A BEE UNDER THE MISTLETOE.
I DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON THE HOLIDAY, BUT I CAN'T STOP STARING AT YOUR FACE.
I SHOULD BE PLAYING IN THE WINTER SNOW, BUT I'M A BEE UNDER THE MISTLETOE.
IF YOU STUDY THE GIRL YOU SAW WITH YOU.
YOU. SO GO WITH YOU SHORTLY BEFORE YOU SIGN A DEAL WITH YOU UNDER THE MISTLETOE.
KISS ME UNDERNEATH THE MISTLETOE.
SHOW ME BABY, LET YOU LOVE ME SO.
KISS ME UNDERNEATH THE MISTLETOE.
SHOW ME, BABY, LET YOU LOVE ME.
YOU KNOW, EVER SINCE MY LIVELIHOOD, I KNOW IT'S STILL TENS OF THOUSAND MILES AWAY.
ME. RECENT MOVIES LIKE SIXTEEN CANDLES AROUND THE CHRISTMAS TREE, BUT SHE WANTS YOU
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WONDERING, DONE, I DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT I DO.I'LL BE YOUR LITTLE DARLINGS, YOU'LL BE RIGHT TO COVER.
IT'LL BE UP TO CHRISTMAS WITH YOU.
BUP BUP BUP BUP BUP BUP BUP BUP BUP BUP SURE YOU ARE YOU.
THAT'S RIGHT. THE BULK OF YOUR POLLING, SO LET'S NO NO, DON'T WORRY, THE LITTLE BLUE SUEDE SHOES AND YOU SHALL SEE ENGLISH ROCKING AROUND THE CHRISTMAS TREE. SO SAY WHAT YOU WANT YOUR OTHER RING, DING DONG.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE MS. O BAILEY.
IT'LL BE UP TO CHRISTMAS WITH YOU, MAYBE WE'LL DO CHRISTMAS WITH YOU.
YES, WE DO DO A CHRISTMAS WITH.
SO THIS IS NOT MY SONG, AND IT HAS AN AUDIENCE PART TO IT.
WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT ON THIS.
SO UP TO YOU ALL OUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND WE'LL SEE YOU.
ONE. ON THE FIRST DAY OF CHRISTMAS, MY TRUE LOVE CAME TO ME A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE BUMBLE ON THE SECOND DAY OF CHRISTMAS, MY TRUE LOVE GAVE TO ME TO TURTLEDOVES AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
ON THE THIRD DAY OF CHRISTMAS, MY TRUE LOVE GET TO ME.
LITTLE DOLLS AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
OH, ON THE FOURTH DAY OF CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, YOU'RE LOOKING TO ME FOR CALLING BIRDS THREE FRENCH AND TWO TURTLEDOVES AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
OH YEAH, CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, YOU'RE LUCKY TO ME, MY GOLDEN RING.
OH, SCREENPRINT STANDS TO TURTLEDOVES AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE ON THE SIX DAY OF CHRISTMAS, MY TRUE LOOKING TO ME SIX IS A LAYING FIVE GOLDEN RINGS.
THREE FRENCH AND SUZANNE HOTELS AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE BOTH AND CHRISTMAS TREE LOOK GOOD TO ME.
SEVEN SWANS SWIMMING 16 SOMETHING FIVE GOLDEN RINGS, BACHELDER RINGS.
CALLING BIRDS THREE FRENCH HENS TO TURTLEDOVES DE LA PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
OH, ONE DAY OF CHRISTMAS, MY TRUE LOVE GET TO ME.
AND MAYBE THE THIRTY SEVEN POINT TWO SWAGIT SIX PIECE OF A BIBLE.
THAT WASN'T FOR TO TURN SIX THREE, TWO TURTLEDOVES AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE BOARD ON THE DAY OF CHRISTMAS, MY TRUE LOVE GAVE ME MY LADY SET TO TAKE ME TO MILKING SEVEN SWANS.
A SWIMMING SIX IS A AWAY BY ROAD.
WE. AND WAIT FOR THAT, ONLY THREE FRENCH HENS, TWO TURTLEDOVES AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
MY TRUE LOVE GAVE TO ME 10 WORDS A LEAPING NINE LADIES DANCING EIGHT MEANS OF MILKING
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SEVEN SWANS, A SWIMMING SIX SKI SUNDAY FIVE GOLDEN RINGS.JINGLE BELLS. THAT'S THE WAY I WAS HOPING, CALLING HER ST VINCENT'S TWO TURTLEDOVES AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
OH, THIS IS NOT YOUR LOVE TO ME.
11:27 TIME WORDS ARE LEAVING MY BABY SENSING EIGHT MR. MILKING SEVEN POINT THIRTY SIX MY GOLDEN RINGS OR GOLDEN RULE CHOIR TO OPERA CALLING BIRDS, THREE FRENCH AND TWO TURTLEDOVES AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
WELL, DAY OF CHRISTMAS, MY TRUE LOVE GAVE TO ME 12 11 PIPERS PIPING 10 WORDS.
A LEAPING NINE LADIES GAVE ME SOME LOOKING SEVEN SWANS, A SWIMMING SIX FEET AWAY.
ARE CALLING BIRDS THREE FRENCH HENS TO SETTLE DUCKS AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE.
IF YOU SURVIVE THE TRANSITION TEAM.
OH, AND EACH AND EVERY COMPANY.
ALL RIGHT. FANTASTIC. THIS IS MIKE.
OH GOODNESS. I TRY TO STAY OFF OF MIKES, BUT IT'S ALL GOOD.
THIS IS ANDREW MARLER, ONE OF OUR SENIORS.
I'M SO SORRY. ALSO, A SENIOR HAD LOKI JUNIOR, NOT A SENIOR YET.
THANK GOODNESS. OLIVIA MOLINSKY, A SOPHOMORE.
BRITTANY MANNARINO, ONE OF OUR SENIORS.
EMILY BAKER, ALSO A SENIOR, SAM BURAK, ALSO A SENIOR, ERNST STECHER, A FRESHMAN.
AND JAMES COOMBS, A SENIOR AND I.
AND I'M JENNIFER ROCK, THE VERY HAPPY AND PROUD DIRECTOR AT HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M SORRY. THIS IS ABOUT ONE THIRD OF OUR TEAM, THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO WERE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER ON THE NIGHT THAT THEY HAVE EXAMS TOMORROW.
TYPEKIT. BUDDY SUNSHINE ON DECK. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TWENTY
[CALL TO ORDER]
TWENTY ONE THIRTY THREE TO ORDER.THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR JIM CAMPBELL OF BAY WEST CHURCH.
HE WILL PROVIDE THE INVOCATION AND WE WILL BE LED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
LET'S PRAY, PLEASE, GOD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU ARE AND ALL THAT YOU DO AND THE THINGS THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF EVERY DAY THAT WE NEVER EVEN RECOGNIZE GOD.
YOU NEVER GET ENOUGH, THANKS, OR WE'RE SORRY FOR THAT, BUT LORD, I'M SO THANKFUL THAT YOU REALIZE OUR WEAKNESSES AND YOU REALIZE THE THINGS THAT WE OVERLOOK AND LORD, YOU EXTEND THE GRACE TO US IN THAT WHAT I PRAY FOR WISDOM TONIGHT AS WE DEAL WITH PROCEEDINGS OVER THE CITY AND THAT AFFECTS SO MANY PEOPLE.
WHEN I PRAY FOR WISDOM FROM THE DAIS DOWN TO THE FLOOR, WHEN I PRAY PROTECTION OVER PEOPLE'S FAMILIES, I PRAY PROTECTION OVER PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES DURING THIS TIME AND THEIR MINDS. AND LORD MAY NEVER FORGET THAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT YOUR BIRTHDAY.
OR YOU SAY IN YOUR WORD THAT FOOLS TAKE.
THEY DON'T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT WISDOM.
THEY ONLY WANT TO AIR THEIR OWN OPINIONS.
SO I PRAY TONIGHT THAT THERE ARE NO OPINIONS AIRED AT ALL.
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THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT COME TO SAY ANYTHING OR THAT SAY ANYTHING FROM DYAS OR FROM THIS LECTERN ARE PEOPLE WHO COME FOR WISDOM AND TRUTH.HELP US TO REMEMBER THAT OUR WORDS MATTER.
YOUR NAME, WE PRAY. SO THE FLAG OF THE STATES.
THE REPUBLIC HAS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
RAW. ADAM JONES, ROCKVILLE MAYOR, MEDINA PRESENT, DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON HERE, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE, MS. SHERMAN HERE, MS. SMITH HERE, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ANNOUNCEMENTS, PLEASE.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT-LARGE MEMBER POSITION FOR TERMS EXPIRING ON THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE.ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY.
FLORIDA TALK OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THREE FOUR ONE FOUR. AND I WILL ALSO LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DO HAVE TWO GUESTS.
OH, YOU GOING TO DO THAT? ALL RIGHT.
YOU'RE MINE. ACT LIKE I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
THERE WE GO. MADAME SHERMAN AGENDA REVISIONS.
[AGENDA REVISIONS]
YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ITEM SIX UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS WAS INADVERTENTLY MARKED AS A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING, AND THAT NOTATION SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE ITEM.ALSO, THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS NEEDED FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER PRESENTATIONS AND ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA.
AND LASTLY, THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM FOR ITEM 10 UNDER CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN REVISED TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT NOT TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.
DO YOU HAVE ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. SO I KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH IN THIS, BUT I WANTED TO HONOR THE THE MAYOR OF ONE OF THE OLDEST CITIES OF BREVARD COUNTY.
RUTLEDGE, FLORIDA NOT LIKE FOR MAYOR PRICE TO STEP FORWARD AND AND GIVE US HIS WORDS OF WISDOM AS THE PASTOR SPOKE EARLIER.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISTINGUISHED STAFF MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN KADAR CAME DOWN TONIGHT JUST TO WISH YOU GUYS THE BEST OF THE YEAR AND WISH YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS AND WE WANTED TO MEET A FEW OF YOU.
AT LEAST I WANTED TO MEET A FEW.
I THINK KHADOOR KNOWS EVERYBODY IN BOVARD COUNTY, OF COURSE.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO COME DOWN AND WATCH YOU AND SPEND MAYBE A HALF HOUR HERE AND MAYBE LEARN SOMETHING FROM YOUR COUNCIL.
AND I WELCOME ANY OF YOU TO OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS ANYTIME YOU WANT TO COME.
I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME OUT THERE AND WATCH US AS WELL.
ANY TIME I GO TO ANY COUNCIL MEETING, I'LL ALWAYS LEARN BECAUSE EVERY CITY IS DIFFERENT.
EVERY CITY IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ON HOW YOU RUN YOUR MEETINGS AND AND THE TOPICS THAT YOU HAVE. AND AND I'VE ALREADY LEARNED BY LOOKING AT YOUR AGENDA A FEW THINGS TONIGHT.
BUT AS ALWAYS, THAT'S ALL WE'RE HERE FOR.
WE HAVE NO AGENDA TONIGHT JUST TO MEET YOU GUYS AND TO WATCH YOU WHAT YOU, HOW YOU CONTROL YOUR COUNCIL.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING YOU HERE.
AND AS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M WITH COUNCILMAN MICHAEL KHADOOR.
SO WITHIN A HALF HOUR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE BECAUSE HE'S GOT A VERY BUSY SCHEDULE. ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS, I MEAN, WHEN OUR MEETINGS, THE FIRST AND THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY NIGHT. BUT GUYS, WE MEET IT SIX O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, NOT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
THIS IS LATE FOR EVERYBODY TO COME OUT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
I'M SURPRISED WE GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OFF OF WORK AND REFRESH BEFORE THEY GET HERE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEY STILL SEEM TO SHOW UP AT OURS TO AT SIX O'CLOCK.
OUR POPULATION MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS.
I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK.
THANK YOU FOR COMING. HEY, APPRECIATE IT.
APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. TAKE CARE.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]
SO I'D LIKE TO CALL UP TIM MEYERS, IS HE THERE HE IS.WE'RE ON PROCLAMATIONS RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS IS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM, AND THIS IS OUR FIRST RECIPIENT.
I'M REALLY PROUD TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. COME ON, YOU GUYS CAN SAY IT WITH ME.
WHEREAS MEYER'S LANDSCAPE SUPPLY IS RECOGNIZED AS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM
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RECIPIENT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO.AND WHEREAS MYERS LANDSCAPES SUPPLY LOCATED AT TWENTY SIX EIGHTY FIVE, KIRBY CIRCLE NORTHEAST HAS BEEN AN ESTABLISHED BUSINESS IN PALM BAY FOR OVER 10 YEARS.
AND WHEREAS MEYER'S LANDSCAPE SUPPLY HAS SHOWN SIGNIFICANT BUSINESS GROWTH AND PHYSICAL EXPANSION, INCREASED REVENUE AND WORKFORCE SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT BY QUICKLY GROWING INTO A FULL SERVICE.
ONE STOP SHOP FOR EVERYTHING FROM SOIL AND MULCH TO SMALL CONSTRUCTION AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT AND AN ONSITE REPAIR FACILITY, WHICH I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO TOUCH ON WHAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT EXPANSION.
OK. WHEREAS LANDSCAPE SUPPLY HAS DEMONSTRATED INNOVATIVE CREATIVITY AND IMAGINATION IN THEIR FIELD BY ADAPTING TO THE CHANGING NEEDS OF THE CUSTOMERS THROUGH PRODUCTS AND SERVICES THEY OFFER, SUCH AS ADDING CORDLESS ECO FRIENDLY OUTDOOR POWER EQUIPMENT INTO THEIR PRODUCT LINE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO TRADITIONAL GAS POWERED EQUIPMENT TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY. I KNOW SUZANNE WOULD LIKE THAT TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY AND REDUCE POLLUTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT, AND WHEREAS MEYER'S LANDSCAPES SUPPLY PROVIDES CUSTOMERS WITH EXCELLENT SERVICE, SUPPORT AND SATISFACTION.
BY BY ARRANGING FOR BOTH IN-STORE AND AT HOME DEMONSTRATIONS ON THEIR CORDLESS OUTDOOR EQUIPMENT. AND WHEREAS MARS LANDSCAPE SUPPLY HAS SHOWN INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY BY VARIOUS DONATIONS MADE TO LOCAL CHURCHES SUCH AS CANDLE LIGHTERS OF BOVARD AND OTHER LOCAL CHURCHES.
WHEREAS MEYER'S LANDSCAPE SUPPLY IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NANCY PELTON AND IS HERE SOMEWHERE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I RA MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
FROM THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT MYERS LANDSCAPE SUPPLY IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECIPIENT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF YEAR.
TWENTY TWENTY TWO FOR THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM IT.
WHEN THIS HERO OF I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THE 16TH DAY OF DECEMBER TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY ONE.
YES. I'M NOT MUCH OF A TALKER, SO I'M GOING ALL BUT DOESN'T TAKE THE.
ALL RIGHT, SO I HAD SOMETHING PREPARED BECAUSE HERE AT MEYERS LANDSCAPES SUPPLY, WE VALUE BOTH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CUSTOMER BASE FOR OUR CONTINUED GROWTH.
THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE STRIVE TO OFFER BOTH THE SERVICES AND THE PRODUCTS THAT WE KNOW THAT OUR THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE IN NEED OF.
BUT WE CANNOT GO WITHOUT THANKING THE SERVICE EMPLOYEES OF MYERS INC.
FOR THE ABILITY FOR THIS COMPANY TO TAKE SHAPE.
I JUST DO THEIR HARD WORK AND THEIR DEDICATION THAT THIS ENDEAVOR ACTUALLY BECAME A REALITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF MYERS LANDSCAPE, SUPPLY THE RETAIL SIDE FOR THEIR THEIR DILIGENCE AND THEIR EFFORTS IN MAKING THIS COMPANY WHAT IT IS TODAY.
NOW WE WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE FORGOT TO THANK BOTH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS A WHOLE AND THE MAYOR FOR AWARDING US THIS AWARD AND HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID THAT, WE INVITE EVERYBODY HERE TO COME DOWN TO OUR LOCATION.
IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF ANY EQUIPMENT, LANDSCAPE SUPPLIES, LANDSCAPE TOOLS, RENTALS OR REPAIR SERVICES, WE HAVE QUITE QUITE THE NICE SETUP.
AND YOU KNOW, OUR BIGGEST THING IS DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR EACH CUSTOMER.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WITHIN REASON.
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US AND THANK YOU, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR THIS AWARD. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD, THEY HAVE A SPECTACULAR SHOWROOM.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T VISITED, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT.
I'M PROUD THAT THEY ARE THE FIRST RECIPIENTS OF THE MAYOR'S SPOTLIGHT, SO THANK YOU ALL.
[PRESENTATIONS]
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SO WE ARE ON PRESENTATIONS, ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SHERMAN.YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS EVENING, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, COMMISSIONER JERRY SANSOM OF THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT.
HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE COUNSEL IN THE PUBLIC WITH AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT FINE DOES AND GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BEFORE US WITH THEIR PROGRAM.
SUPER. MR. SHARON MR., MAYOR IS VERY NICE TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND COUNCIL APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET YOU ALL KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE AGENCY THAT I'M INVOLVED IN DOES.
FOR THOSE OF YOU ALL THAT DON'T KNOW ME, I'M GERRY SANSOM.
I'M THE BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT.
AND YOU ASK, KNOW WHAT IS THAT? WE DON'T BUILD ROADS, BUT WE MAINTAIN THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY AS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP MUCH MORE OF YOUR TIME, AND WE'LL LET JANET, OUR DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WE'RE GOING TO HAND OUT SOME MATERIAL SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT KINDS OF PROJECTS WE HAVE FUNDED IN BREVARD COUNTY.
I KNOW SUZANNE HAS HEARD ME RAIL TO SOME DEGREE AT THE LEAGUE OF SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES DINNERS WHERE I'VE COMMENTED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE APPLYING FOR OUR GRANTS THAT WE CAN MATCH MONEY WITH YOU TO MAKE NEAT THINGS HAPPEN.
AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE IN PALM BAY MR. MS., I HATE TO TELL YOU HOW LONG I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOLKS IN PALM BAY.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO RIVERSIDE COUNTY IN NINETEEN SIXTY NINE AND NOT TOO LONG AFTER THAT, I HELPED GENERAL DEVELOPMENT BUILD A SEWER PLANT HERE.
AND I REMEMBER BACK WHEN THE ABANDONED STICKIES AT THE OTHER END OF THIS ROAD, THERE WAS NOTHING WEST OF THAT.
AND SO YOU ALL HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND.
I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU UP ANY LONGER, JANET.
GENTLEMAN SAID TO TELL ME THAT THIS IS FORWARD.
MY NAME IS JANET ZIMMERMAN, AND I'M THE ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS FIND, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK CRASH COURSE IN WHAT THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT DOES, STARTING WITH OUR JURISDICTION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY, WHICH IS DESIGNATED BY THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, MARRIED AS MARINE HIGHWAY 95.
SO IF YOU THINK OF ABOUT THAT INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY SIMILAR TO I-95, IT'S GOING TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY FROM THE GEORGIA FLORIDA BORDER DOWN TO MIAMI AND THEN OUT THROUGH THE FLORIDA KEYS AROUND THE GULF SIDE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEPTH OF ABOUT 12 FEET FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION FROM GEORGIA, FLORIDA LINE DOWN TO FORT PIERCE.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEY STARTED TO HIT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROCK AND DECIDED DOWN.
MAYBE WE DON'T QUITE NEED TO GO TO 12 FEET.
SO FROM FORT PIERCE, DOWN TO MIAMI IS 10 FEET A LITTLE MORE ROCK.
AS YOU GET DOWN INTO THE FLORIDA KEYS, YOU START START HITTING THAT CORAL.
SO THE DEPTH OR THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY REDUCES DOWN TO ONLY SEVEN FEET IN THAT AREA.
EVERY YEAR, APPROXIMATELY A MILLION CUBIC YARDS ARE DREDGED FROM THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY TO KEEP IT TO THAT DEPTH.
NAVIGATION DISTRICT IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR A PORTION OF THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY, OUR ESCAPE ROUTE DURING HURRICANE SEASON TO GET BOATS FROM ONE COAST TO THE OTHER TO AVOID ANY TYPES OF WEATHER.
INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
IT STARTED AS A PRIVATE VENTURE FOR DIGGING THIS CANAL ALONG THE EAST COAST AND WAS COMPLETED BY THE PRIVATE VENTURES IN ABOUT 1912, USED TO OPERATE AS A TOLL ROAD.
AND YOU THINK, WELL, HOW IS THE WATERWAY GOING TO ACT AS A TOLL ROAD? THEY PUT UP TOLL BOOTHS IN A NARROW SECTION, DRAGGED A ROPE IN A CHAIN ACROSS AND MADE YOU STOP YOUR BOAT.
PAY YOUR TOLL. I'LL DROP THE CHAIN AND HEAD ON THROUGH.
LATER ON, DURING THE TIMES OF WAR, SEMINOLE WAR TO OUR WORLD WARS, WE REALIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM FOR CARGO FISHING, MAIL AND TOURISM TO GO BEHIND THE BARRIER ISLANDS.
AND THIS IS AT THE POINT WHERE FLORIDA SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS WATERWAY AS WELL.
THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IN 1927 DESIGNATED THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT AS THE 11 COUNTIES. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, NASSAU COUNTY JOINED US LATER.
AND ALLOWED THEM TO COLLECT TAXES TO ASSIST WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THE INTERCOASTAL
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WATERWAY. SO THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT HAS 12 COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED BY OUR GOVERNOR. ONE FOR EACH OF OUR 12 COUNTIES.THESE COMMISSIONERS SERVE FOUR YEAR TERMS ON AN ALTERNATING SCHEDULE.
AND WE WORK WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO MAINTAIN THE WATERWAY WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THE DREDGING THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO.
WHAT FIND DOES THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT TO THE DREDGING IS WHEN YOU DREDGE THAT MATERIAL, YOU NEED A PLACE TO PUT THAT MATERIAL ONCE YOU GET IT OUT OF THE WATERWAY.
SO FIND HAS A 50 YEAR DREDGE MATERIAL MANAGEMENT PLAN WHERE WE'VE PURCHASED PROPERTIES ALONG THE COAST, WHERE THIS MATERIAL GOES TO GET DE WATERED AND THEN WE CAN RECYCLE AND REUSE THAT MATERIAL FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE DOWN HERE IN THE PALM BAY AREA, WE HAVE BVE FIFTY TWO TO YOUR NORTH AND THEN LEAVE TO A TO YOUR SOUTH.
HMM. THIS IS WHAT A DREDGED MATERIAL MANAGEMENT AREA LOOKS LIKE OR ADMIRE A.
YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S GREEN, IT'S GOT A NICE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND IN BETWEEN ITS USE, WHICH CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM EVERY FIVE YEARS TO MAYBE ONCE EVERY TWENTY FIVE TO THIRTY YEARS, IT'S VERY QUIET, VERY SERENE.
AND ACTUALLY, IF YOU'RE A CONDO OVERLOOKING ONE OF OUR SITES, IT'S AN EXCELLENT BIRD WATCHING AREA.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY IS OUR GRANT PROGRAM.
NOT ONLY DO WE MAINTAIN THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND PROVIDE THOSE UPLAND SITES FOR THE DREDGE MATERIAL TO GO, BUT WE PROVIDE A GRANT PROGRAM TO FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
THROUGH THESE PARTNERSHIPS WERE ABLE TO INCREASE WATER ACCESS FOR ALL OF OUR COASTAL CITIZENS. WE DO 50 50 FUNDING THROUGH OUR GRANT PROGRAM WITH APPROXIMATELY ANYWHERE FROM 14 TO $15 MILLION A YEAR, RESULTING IN TWENTY EIGHT TO $40 MILLION ANNUAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY SIX, WHEN WE STARTED OUR PROGRAM, BREVARD COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BEEN AWARDED FOURTEEN POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS AND ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
AND WE'VE PARTICIPATED WITH ALL 14 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA.
SOME OF THE PRETTY PICTURES FROM SOME OF THE OTHER ONES FROM THE OTHER.
PREFERRED COMMUNITIES, BUT HERE IN PALM BAY, SOME OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE INCLUDED THE ENVIRONMENTAL LEARNING CENTER.
THE LAGOON HOUSE, SHORELINE STABILIZATION, NAVIGATION AIDS AND DREDGING FOR TURKEY CREEK PIER AT CASTAWAYS POINT PARK AND A NUMBER OF DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL PROJECTS AS WELL.
A DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL GRANTS, WHILE FWC DOES PROVIDE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDING TO HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS REMOVE DERELICT VESSELS FROM THE WATER.
FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT ACTS AS A BACKUP WHEN FWC DOESN'T GET THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDING TO FUND THEIR GRANTS.
WE CAN PROVIDE UP TO 75 PERCENT AT SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS PER COUNTY.
AND SINCE STARTING IN 2008, BREVARD COUNTY, WE'VE MOVED 69 VESSELS OUT OF THE WATERWAY.
WE DO SPOIL ISLAND RESTORATION AND ENHANCEMENT GRANTS OFF OF OUR COAST HERE IN THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPOIL ISLANDS THAT ARE USED FOR BOTH RECREATION AS WELL AS CONSERVATION.
AND WITH OUR GRANTS, YOU COULD IMPROVE ACCESS TO THEM, CREATING A LOW IMPACT CAMPING AREAS, PICNIC AREAS OR WORKING ON RESTORATION OF REMOVING EXOTICS LIKE BRAZILIAN PEPPER.
WE HAVE JUST ASSIST WITH THE WATERWAY CLEANUP PROGRAMS EVERY YEAR IN BREVARD COUNTY, WE WORK WITH VARIED BEAUTIFUL WITH A DONATION OR SPONSORSHIP OF UP TO $10000 ANNUALLY.
AND WE DO THAT IN EACH ONE OF OUR 12 COASTAL COUNTIES.
SOME OF OUR RECENTLY COMPLETED PROJECTS, WE'VE CONSTRUCTED A NUMBER OF DREDGE MATERIAL MANAGEMENT SITES IN MARTIN COUNTY, ST.
LUCIE COUNTY, AND WE'RE JUST COMPLETING BV 11 HERE ON MERRITT ISLAND, AND WE'RE WORKING ON MAINTENANCE DREDGING OF THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY IN MARTIN COUNTY AND ARE JUST ABOUT
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READY TO START A PROJECT THAT'LL MOVE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF MATERIAL OUT OF THE PALM VALLEY AREA IN ST.JOHN'S COUNTY. JUST A QUICK AND EASY PRESENTATION.
WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL THINK ABOUT SOME OF YOUR WATERWAY ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AND SEE HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU IMPROVE GETTING YOUR FOLKS EITHER ON THE WATER OR NEAR THE WATER.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME TONIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GOT IMPORTANT BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF.
BUT WE DID WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BETTER IDEA THAN IN MY THREE MINUTE TERM AT THE THAT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES DINNERS ON TALKING TO YOU.
BUT. EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN BREVARD COUNTY PAYS A SMALL MILLAGE TO THE INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT TO MAINTAIN THE WATERWAY AND TO HELP US DO THESE GRANTS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY, TO IMPROVE THE WATERWAY, TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO THE WATERWAY.
AND ACCESS IS NOT ONLY BOATERS, BUT WE ALSO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE LAGOON A LITTLE BETTER WITH WITH NOT ONLY BOAT RAMPS BUT ALSO EARS, WALKWAYS, BOARDWALKS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE WATERWAY BETTER FOR WHAT IT IS, WHICH IS WHY WE TRY TO GET EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
WE HAVE HERE IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY NOW WHERE WE'RE LIMITED IN HOW MUCH WE CAN GIVE IN EACH COUNTY BY HOW MANY, HOW MUCH TAXES ARE RAISED IN THAT COUNTY.
SO THE BIG COUNTIES HAVE MORE MONEY, THE SMALLER COUNTIES HAVE LESS MONEY, BUT WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR LATELY IN MONEY AVAILABLE FOR MATCHING GRANTS.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT AN IDEA ON SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO DO TO HELP KEEP PEOPLE CLOSER TO THE WATER, THEY'LL GIVE YOUR CITIZENS BETTER ACCESS TO THE WATER.
LET ME KNOW. TALK, CALL ME AND WE'LL WORK ABOUT IT.
THE YOU WILL GET A NOTICE SHORTLY ABOUT OUR THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR'S GRANT CYCLE, WHICH YOU ALL WORK ON THAT IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
AND I ALL I HAVE TO DO IS CHECK OFF, CHECK THE CHECKLIST OFF IN FEBRUARY AND IT CAN GO FORWARD. THE APPLICANTS, THE APPLICATIONS HAVE TO BE TO US NO LATER THAN WHAT DATE JANET FIRST OF APRIL. ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY HARD DEADLINE FROM Y'ALL IS REQUIRED BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T MAKE THAT DEADLINE, YOU DON'T GET THIS YEAR'S CYCLE.
THE OTHER THING I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT IS IF YOUR PROJECTS REQUIRE PERMITS NOT FROM THE CITY, BUT FROM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS OR DEP OR WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE BY THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER.
OTHERWISE, YOUR PROJECT IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE FUNDED THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T GIVE PROJECTS. WE DON'T HOLD UP MONEY FOR PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE ALL THEIR PERMITS.
SO IF YOU GOT YOUR PAPERWORK IN AND ALL YOUR PERMITS IN PLACE, THEN YOU'RE ELIGIBLE.
IF YOU IF YOU MEET IN JUNE AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THIS MEETING, IT'S ALWAYS IN REWARD BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE.
ALL OF THE APPLICANTS ALL UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST THAT HAVE SOMETHING IN THEY COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION TO US IN JUNE.
TWO DAY MEETING, THEY HAVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES PER ENTITY TO BRING THEIR PROJECTS UP, AND WE RANK THEM. AND BECAUSE MOST OF THE CITIES AND TOWNS WORK CLOSELY WITH THEIR LOCAL COMMISSIONERS, WE GET PRETTY GOOD APPLICATIONS THAT COME IN AND VERY RARELY.
WE HAVE ONE THAT DOESN'T MEET THE ELIGIBILITY POINTS AND THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW HIGH THEY ARE UP THE MONEY TREE, IF YOU WILL, AS TO WHETHER THEY GET FUNDED.
AND LATELY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT IS ELIGIBLE GETS FUNDED AS LONG AS THEY GET THE PERMITS DONE.
AND SO IF YOU THINK YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT MIGHT REQUIRE PERMITS, DON'T WAIT TO GET THE APPLICATION AND START WORKING ON YOUR PERMITS.
BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE WE'VE HAD TO MODIFY SOME PROJECTS IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF THE.
THAT ONE, THEY SHOWED THAT WE SHOWED YOU OF CAPE CANAVERAL.
PART OF THAT HAS TO HAS A CANOE LAUNCHING RAMP AND PART OF THAT PARK.
WE ACTUALLY THE CORPS WAS HOLDING UP APPROVAL OF THE NEW LAUNCHING RAMP.
BECAUSE OF IMPACTS TO SEA GRASS.
WE NEED SEAGRASS BED, BUT THE CANOES DON'T IMPACT THAT MUCH SEAGRASS, BUT WE HAD TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE CANOE LAUNCHING RAMP OFF OF THAT PROJECT IN ORDER FOR US TO FUND THEM THAT THAT YEAR.
AND WE CAME BACK ANOTHER YEAR AND FUNDED THAT, SO BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU.
JANET HANDED OUT TO YOUR LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE FUNDED IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS SO THAT YOU GOT SOME IDEA AS TO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE GONE FOR AND WHAT THEY DO.
HELP YOU BUY A POLICE OR FIRE BOAT IF YOU NEED ONE OF THOSE FOR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE
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BUILDING YOUR MARINAS, YOU'RE GETTING DEVELOPERS BACK INTO THOSE, YOU'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE YOUR WATERFRONT.AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAN REALLY BE A BIG HELP TO THAT AS A POLICE AND FIRE BOAT COMBINATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE JUST RAISED THE AMOUNT THAT THAT WE ALLOW IS MATCH FOR THOSE.
SO I WANTED TO THROW THAT IN SENSE, IT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT NORMALLY THINK ABOUT, BUT WE LIKE TO SAY YOU GUYS DREAM, IT WILL HELP YOU FUND IT, AND WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND HELP YOU GET YOUR MONEY'S WORTH OF US.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GLAD TO BE BACK HERE IN PALM BAY AND TALKING TO YOU.
YOU SEE THESE GROWN A LITTLE BIT LIKE MAYOR PRICE.
IT TOOK ME A LITTLE LONGER TO GET DOWN HERE FROM ROCKLANDS THAN I WAS EXPECTING, AND IT MIGHT HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT YOUR POPULATION IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN OURS.
SO, SO THANK YOU, MR. SAMPSON. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE HAVE A DOVE TEAM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THOSE THOUGHTS ON THAT GRAND OPPORTUNITY.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? I WOULDN'T WANT YOUR DOVE TEAM TO HAVE TO SWIM EVERYWHERE.
SO THEY'RE QUITE CAPABLE, SIR.
OH, I'M SURE THEY ARE. IT WAS JUST I'M SURE THEY WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO SWIM TO THE JOB SITE. FELIX MAYOR.
THANK YOU AGAIN, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN.
THANK YOU AGAIN, SIR, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SIR, I HEARD THE DEADLINE WAS MARCH 28TH, BUT WHEN'S THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS IS BASICALLY OPEN NOW? OK, YOU CAN CONTACT THE NUMBER HERE.
THE FORMS WILL GO OUT, BUT WHEN WE SEND THOSE OUT FIRST OF THE YEAR, JANET.
OK. AND WE SEND YOU A NOTE AS WE SEND YOU AN EMAIL TO SOMEBODY IN THE CITY, AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHO IN EACH CITY USUALLY HAS A PARKS, FOLKS, BUT CITY MANAGERS ARE BECOMING PRETTY AWARE OF THE PROCESS.
THAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR THE FORMAL APPLICATION NOW.
IF YOU IF YOU DISCOVER SOMETHING AFTER YOU MAKE THE APPLICATION THAT WE NEED TO MODIFY ON THAT NO PROBLEM, WE CAN COME BACK AND DO THAT.
IF YOU FIND THAT AND THERE'S SOME SURPRISES IN YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU WEREN'T PLANNING ON AND YOU NEED TO COME BACK AND MODIFY THE APPLICATION A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE FLEXIBLE.
AND FOR THAT, AND EVEN AFTER YOU GET BIDS INTERVIEW, YOU KNOW IT'S ONE OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS, THEN WE'RE FLEXIBLE.
DIDN'T MENTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE DEADLINE IS THE 28TH.
HOWEVER, YOU MENTIONED PERMITTING SHOULD BE ALREADY SECURED BY AT SEPTEMBER BY THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. OK, SO GERMANY SHOULD BE SQUARED AWAY BEFORE THE APPLICATION.
IS WHEN THE FORMAL AFTER THE FORMAL APPLICATION COMES TO US AND WE PUT IT IN THE QUEUE.
AND THEN PART OF THAT THEN THEN YOU COME TO US IN JUNE AND EXPLAIN THE PROJECT AND WE RANK IT. AND THEN THE TIME CLOCK IS MARCHING ON AND AND SO THAT BY THE TIME OUR.
WE APPROVE THE PROJECTS THAT THE FINAL FINAL TAX HEARING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IS IN THE EARLY ROUND IN SEPTEMBER SOMEWHERE.
AND FOR US, WE TRY TO MAKE IT ABOUT THE LAST WEDNESDAY OF SEPTEMBER WHEN WE DO THE FINAL APPROVAL. GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO WORK WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, BEAT THEIR HEAD OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET YOUR PERMITS APPROVED.
AND AND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A SEPARATE DEADLINE FOR WHEN THE PERMITS HAVE TO BE IN, BUT IT'S USUALLY ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THE THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THEN THE CORPS AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THEY'RE PRETTY AWARE OF WHEN THE WHEN OUR DEADLINES ARE SO YOU CAN MEET THEM ON THE HIT AS HARD AS YOU WANT TO TELL THEM YOU, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DEADLINE BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUR MONEY AND WE DON'T WANT YOU HOLDING IT UP.
AT TO BE PRECISE, AS YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO USE A LITTLE PERSUASION TO HELP PEOPLE HELP YOU OUT.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? NO QUESTION.
THANK YOU, SIR. MR. MAYOR, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE CAN HELP YOU IN. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE'VE DONE A PROJECT WITH PALM BAY, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK IN WITH YOU AND KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE USED OUR SPORT MANAGEMENT SITE. WHAT IS THAT 50 TO JANET? THE ONE THERE AT ROBERT CONLON IN U.S.
AND WHEN YOU KNOW WHEN, WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A DREDGING PROJECT SCHEDULED, THOSE DMA'S ARE AVAILABLE FOR Y'ALL TO USE FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD YOUR OWN. IF THOSE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN AND ALWAYS HAVING TO KEEP IT A GOPHER TORTOISES OUT OF THEM, FROM BUILDING PATHWAYS FOR THE WATER TO GET FROM THE INSIDE TO THE OUTSIDE.
BUT IT'S IT'S FUN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU.
THIS IS THIS FINE ORGANIZATION IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
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IT IF WE DID IN THE PAST.I WOULD LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO COME UP WITH SOME PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BENEFIT THE CITY.
AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THAT THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER IS CURRENTLY WORKING, AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE OUR GRANT SPECIALISTS WORKING ON THOSE ISSUES, SO I'M NOT SURE WE I THINK WE'RE ALL ON BOARD ANYWAY.
BUT MADAM MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NECESSARILY NEED A WORKSHOP.
WHAT WE WOULD DO, WHICH WE DO NORMALLY FOR GRANT APPLICATIONS WHEN THEY OPEN, WE WOULD PREPARE OUR VARIOUS APPLICATIONS AND THEN WE WOULD COME TO YOU ALL AS AN AGENDA ITEM UNDER A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AND REQUEST YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, SINCE I HAVE A MOMENT, BRITTA KELLNER, OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, HAS BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO GET OUR GRANTS PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING TO THE LEVEL OF STRENGTH IT WAS HISTORICALLY.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST, YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY GRANT APPLICATIONS WERE APPLIED FOR, LIKE IN THE EARLY 2000S.
SO WE DID HAVE A SUCCESSFUL RECENT GRANT APPLICATION TO REPLACE ALL OF THE CHANNEL MARKERS IN TURKEY CREEK AND THE BAY AREA AND FIND IT APPROVED THAT RECENTLY.
WE INTEND TO HAVE MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS IN FUTURE CYCLES.
THANK YOU. I'M FINE WITH THAT.
OK, SO WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MA'AM.
MADAME SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MIRA.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO ALSO INTRODUCE ANOTHER GUEST SPEAKER THIS EVENING, NANCY PALESTINIEN, OUR PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
WE'LL BE HERE TO GIVE US HER QUARTERLY UPDATES.
WELL, YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT MY NAME IS NANCY PELTON, AND I'M PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU LISTENING AT HOME AND AND IN THE AUDIENCE, I SAY THIS EVERY TIME I PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR CITY COUNCIL, THE CHAMBER BRINGS TOGETHER BUSINESSES SO THAT WE CAN DO COLLECTIVELY WHAT WE CANNOT DO BY OURSELVES.
OUR MISSION IS TO SERVE, ADVOCATE AND PROMOTE AS A TRUSTED VOICE FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. OUR NUMBER ONE JOB IS TO SAFEGUARD THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, SINCE WE ARE THE LARGEST BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN PALM BAY AND OUR MEMBERS RANGE FROM HOME BASED BUSINESSES TO MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS.
THE CHAMBER LEVERAGES EVERY, EVERY MEMBERSHIP TO BUILD THE VOICE OF BUSINESS AS EVERY MEMBER WHO JOINED, AND WE HAVE 136 BUSINESSES THAT JOINED US THIS YEAR, AND THAT DOES INCREASE THE NUMBER OF THE BUSINESS CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE CHAMBER REPRESENTS.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR YOUR RENEWED TRUSTEE SHIP AND YOUR VISIBILITY THIS YEAR.
EVERYTHING I'M TELLING YOU TONIGHT IS A REPETITION FROM MY STATE OF THE CHAMBER UPDATE AT THE DECEMBER LUNCHEON, AND I THINK YOU ALL WERE AT THAT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU WANT ME TO CHANGE THE FREQUENCY OF HOW OFTEN I PRESENT, THEN JUST LET ME KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME BY GIVING YOU UPDATES THAT YOU ARE REGULARLY HEARING.
I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT AND CEO FOR SIX YEARS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THE CARE AND CONCERN FROM THE CITY THAT I HAVE WITH THIS COUNCIL.
WE ALL KNOW THE CITY HAS HAD SOME NEGATIVE HISTORY, BUT THE WILLINGNESS OF THIS COUNCIL TO STEP UP AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE, MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES AND MOVE THE CITY FORWARD NEEDS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND COMMENDED.
AND THIS ISN'T I'M JUST NOT GIVING FLUFFY COMPLIMENTS.
BEING ON CITY COUNCIL AS HAS A FEW PERKS, BUT IT'S OFTEN A THANKLESS JOB.
IT'S OFTEN HEARING NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND COMPLAINTS.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE SEEN VARIOUS COUNCILS COME AND GO.
THE COMMITMENT FROM THE FOUR OF YOU IS A JOY TO SEE, AND IT'S COMING FROM THE TOP DOWN TO WITHIN CITY MANAGEMENT WITH SUZANNE SHERMAN.
EVERY TIME A BUSINESS HAS REACHED OUT TO ME WITH A CONCERN, THE MANAGEMENT TEAM ADDRESSES THE SITUATION.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THERE, SO IT WAS TWO SIDES TO EVERY SITUATION.
AND I'M VERY AWARE THAT SOME BUSINESSES OFTEN FAIL TO FOLLOW PROCEDURES SET OUT BY THE CITY. HOWEVER, HAVING SOMEBODY FROM THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT AND LEAD THEM ON THE PATH TO GET THERE QUICKER HAS BEEN REMARKABLE.
I'VE HAD AT LEAST SIX COMPANIES THIS YEAR SAY THAT THE CHAMBER HAS ASSISTED THEM IN MOVING THE MOVING THEIR OPENING DATES FORWARD WHEN THEY FELT THAT THEY HAD HIT A ROADBLOCK. AND WITHOUT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS DEVELOPED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
ALONG WITH THE 136 NEW BUSINESS PARTNERS THAT INVESTED MEMBERSHIP WITH OUR CHAMBER, WE HAD 13 NEW TRUSTEES.
AS YOU KNOW THAT THEY INVESTED A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER LEVEL AND FOUR NEW MEDIA PARTNERS
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AT THE LUNCHEON. I ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE HAD SOME RECOGNITION THIS YEAR.THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CHAMBER PROFESSIONALS BESTOWED OUR CHAMBER WITH THE 2021 MEMBERSHIP COMMUNICATIONS MARKETING MATERIALS AWARD FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR A CHAMBER UNDER $500000 BUDGET.
YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THIS LAST TIME AND I DID RECEIVE MY FCC, WHICH IS THE FLORIDA CERTIFIED CHAMBER PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATION DESIGNATION THIS YEAR.
AND JUST RECENTLY, A HUGE HONOR.
FLORIDA SENATOR DEBBIE MAYFIELD CHOSE ME AS HER CONSTITUENT OF THE WEEK FOR HER NOVEMBER 28TH NEWSLETTER.
DURING MY LAST PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL, I MENTIONED THE CHAMBER'S FOCUS ON ECOTOURISM IN SOUTH BREVARD COUNTY.
THIS YEAR, I WAS ON THE THREE TWO ONE LIFTOFF PODCAST FOR THE SPACE COAST OFFICE OF TOURISM, TWICE PROMOTING ECO TOURISM AND SOUTH BREVARD AS A DESTINATION.
TO VISIT OUR NEW BUSINESS DIRECTOR AND COMMUNITY GUIDE, WHICH I JUST DISTRIBUTED TO YOU, HAS OUR TWENTY TWO THINGS TO DO IN 2020 TO WHICH WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT ITS.
HUH. IT'S JUST NICE TO KIND OF KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DOWN HERE, AND SURE, IT CAN'T FIND IT NOW WHEN I'M LOOKING, OH, THERE WE GO, SO THERE WE GO.
HARD 20 22 THINGS TO DO IN 2022 AND IT INCLUDES A LOT OF OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
WHAT IS REALLY GREAT ABOUT THIS IS WE WE STARTED PLANNING THIS GUIDE IN 2019, SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LABOR OF LOVE THAT IT'S FINALLY DONE.
BUT I'M KIND OF GLAD IN A WAY THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE PANDEMIC.
NOBODY WANTED A GUIDE OR WAS OPEN TO ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR GUIDES IN THEIR IN THEIR STORES OR BUSINESSES. SO IT ALLOWED US TO ADD MORE TOURISM INFORMATION IN THERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE MIDDLE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A MAP OF THE COUNTY, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE. AND IT INCLUDES A LOT OF OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
I WAS ALSO ABLE TO CONNECT WITH ALLEGIANT AIRLINES.
I MENTIONED THAT AT MY LAST DAY, AND THEY NOW HAVE DIRECT FLIGHTS FROM THREE CITIES PITTSBURGH, CHARLOTTE AND NASHVILLE, RIGHT INTO THE MELBOURNE ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. I WOULD GIVE YOU ONE OF THESE, BUT I HAD TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE BEHIND THE SEATS WHEN I WENT TO NASHVILLE, SO I DID USE UTILIZE THEM.
BUT HERE'S OUR FULL PAGE AD THAT IS IN THE ALLEGIANT AIRLINE MAGAZINE.
IT IS GOING TO BE IN THERE FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, SO IF ANYONE'S TRAVELING, YOU CAN TAKE THEM FROM BEHIND THE SEATS.
BUT THIS SUNSEEKER MAGAZINE AD SAYS COME, STAY AND PLAY AND PALM BAY.
IT SHOWS OUR KAYAKING, THE BIKING AND FISHING THAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE OUTDOOR ADVENTURES BOATING, GOLFING, DISC GOLF HUNTING THAT WE HAVE HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY. IT ALSO ON THE CORNER, HAS A QR CODE, WHICH, IF YOU SCAN IT, WILL TAKE THEM TO OUR CHAMBER TOURISM PAGE THAT HAS THE TWENTY TWO THINGS TO DO TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PUT THIS MARKETING EFFORT ALTOGETHER AND OUR MAP THAT WILL BE OUT IN JANUARY, THE CITY MAP THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD FOR A LITTLE WHILE WILL HAVE THE SAME COVER AS OUR GUIDE SO THAT IT'S SHOWING, YOU KNOW, A REALLY NICE PACKAGE WHEN WE GET ALL WE TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR CHAMBER LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY AND MAPS.
THERE'S STILL PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT DON'T REALLY SEE WELL ON MY PHONE WITH ALL THE STREET MAPS. SO THAT'S COMING.
SO FOR THE AUDIENCE OR ANYONE LISTENING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET A GUIDE, PLEASE COME TO OUR OFFICE. MAPS WILL BE HERE IN JANUARY.
WE ALSO HAVE VERY NICE CALENDARS, SO IF YOU NEED A LITTLE CALENDAR, WE HAVE THAT AT THE CHAMBER AS WELL. BUT I DIGRESS.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE UPDATES ON OUR TOURISM PAGE AND WE HAVE VIDEOS AND MORE PHOTOS COMING. SO I THINK THAT AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE CITIES PAGE AS WELL.
SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING THINGS UP, IT'S A VERY COLLECTIVE, UNIFIED INFORMATION FOR THEM.
OUR WEBSITE ATTRACTS OVER A THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND VIEWS PER YEAR, AND MOST OF IT IS FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES BASED ON GOOGLE SEARCHES. WE SEEM TO BE A CATCH ALL FOR RESIDENTS WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW REALLY WHO TO CALL WITH THEIR ISSUE. WE SEEM TO GET WE'RE THINKING OF WRITING A BOOK ON, YOU KNOW, THE STRANGE QUESTIONS TO THE CHAMBER AND WHAT PEOPLE THINK WE DO, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO DIRECT THEM TO THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
I THINK OF THE CHAMBER AS THE ULTIMATE CONNECTOR.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT WE USUALLY KNOW SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT, SO WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
THE LAST 18 MONTHS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT FOR EVERYONE.
THE UNDERLYING SENSE OF ANXIETY FROM THE PANDEMIC THAT JUST WON'T GO AWAY HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON EVERYONE, BUSINESSES, PEOPLE'S PSYCHE, EVERYTHING.
AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE TRUST OUR PARTNERS HAVE PLACED IN US HAS BROUGHT US THROUGH THESE 18 MONTHS STRONGER THAN EVER.
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WE ARE FINANCIALLY IN THE BEST SHAPE I HAVE EVER SEEN.LOOKING BACK IN THE CHAMBER'S HISTORY, WE DOUBLED OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN EXPECTATIONS, SO I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVISE THAT NEXT YEAR WITH A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN.
I THINK THERE'S A BUZZ IN THE CHAMBER.
I ALSO FEEL THE BUZZ ABOUT THE CITY.
IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE AS THE CHAMBER PRESIDENT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER FABULOUS YEAR IN 2022.
I WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY.
I CAN HARDLY WAIT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FROM MS. PELTON, I CAN TELL YOU, I LOVE THAT YOU FEATURED THE TURKEY CREEK AND OUTSTANDING JOB, MA'AM, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS REALLY INVOLVED WITH THE CHAMBER AND WE DO GET THESE BRIEFINGS UPDATED, PERHAPS INSTEAD OF EVERY QUARTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILWOMAN WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO PERHAPS EVERY FOUR MONTHS OR EVEN LONGER. WELL, IT'S QUARTERLY NOW.
SO IF YOU WANT TWICE A YEAR, THAT'S OK.
WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE, YEAH, WE COULD DO TWICE A YEAR.
SURE, I'M GOOD WITH TWICE A YEAR.
KNOW. MAYOR, I WOULD BE OK WITH THAT AS WELL, EXCEPT I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT AS WE WE ARE INVOLVED. BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT ALL COMMUNITIES AWARE AS WELL.
SO I'M PRETTY SURE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THEY MAY HAVE LEARNED A FEW THINGS, FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING ONLINE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS DO AN EXCELLENT JOB ON SOCIAL MEDIA PROMOTING WHAT YOU DO AND ALL THE BUSINESSES, ALL YOUR MEMBERS.
BUT I THINK THAT THE COMPONENT, THE FACT THAT FOLKS THAT ARE HERE GET TO HEAR AS WELL BE PART OF WHAT YOU PRESENTED, IT'S GREAT, BUT I WOULD BE OK WITH.
TWICE, TWICE A MONTH, LET ME TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY WHILE I HAVE THE MIC TO REALLY CONGRATULATE THE CHAMBER.
NANCY, YOU AND YOUR STAFF, WHICH YOU GUYS DO DAY IN, DAY OUT TO PROMOTE BUSINESSES AND TO REALLY SELL SELL PALM BAY, NOT JUST PALM BAY THE, YOU KNOW, THE BREVARD COUNTY AS A WHOLE. IDEAS LIKE THIS, I THINK THAT'S AWESOME AND IT'S GREAT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT SEGUE WAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE WATER ACTIVITIES AS WELL LISTED USING THE WATERWAY. SO MAYBE Y'ALL CAN TALK ABOUT GRANTS, POTENTIALLY FOR THE CHAMBER.
BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, IT COMES WITH SOME IDEAS.
YOU KNOW, WORK WITH ISD CITY MANAGER AND SEE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST THE TENACITY OF THE CHAMBER. YOU JUST REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE NARRATIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, PALM BAY IS THAT THAT PLACE THAT IS THERE ISN'T MUCH TO DO.
BUT YEAH, AND I TRULY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
NANCY, YOU'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THE CHAMBER BEFORE I EVEN RAN FOR OFFICE, AND I STILL SUPPORT WHAT YOU DO AND I'VE SEEN IT GROW GREW, ESPECIALLY.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE CONCERT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER.
WE HAD A REGGAE BAND, THIRD WORLD.
THAT WAS A I THINK THAT WAS THE STARTING POINT.
YEAH. WHEN YOU HELPED PUT THAT CONCERT WITH, I THINK IT WAS BICOASTAL THAT THAT WAS THE CHAMBER FIRST FRIDAY BY THE BAY.
YEAH, FRIDAY BY THE BAY. THAT'S WHERE IT WAS THE CITY.
I SEE THAT IT WAS THE LAUNCHING BECAUSE EVERYTHING STARTED TO BLOSSOM.
BUT YOU? YOUR TEAM DONE SO HARD WORK, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT I'M SITTING ON COUNCIL THAT I COULD CONTINUE AND THIS COUNCIL, EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE SHOW UP ON IT ON A LOT OF YOUR EVENTS, ESPECIALLY AT THE CHRISTMAS PARTY.
LAST WEEK, WE HAD A LOT OF FUN AND IT WAS IT WAS A GOOD, GOOD THING.
BUT THE CITY SHOULD BE BLESSED THAT WE HAVE HAVE YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND YOUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND YOUR AMBASSADORS DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB, NOT JUST FOR PALM BAY, BUT FOR THE SOUTHERN PART OF THIS COUNTY? AND ANYTHING I COULD DO TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU, I WILL.
I HAVE THIS QUESTION ALL THE TIME.
IT'S NOTHING TO DO IN PALM BAY.
WELL, IT'S A LOT TO DO IF YOU REALLY LOOK AND OUR PARKS AND REC IS ASKING US.
AN AWESOME JOB. THE CHAMBER DOES AN AWESOME JOB BRINGING BUSINESS TOGETHER AND PROMOTING OUR PUBLIC EMPLOYEES AS WELL OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR IS FINE WITH ME.
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I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY.JANUARY 29TH, THOUGH, WE WILL HAVE LAKSHYA AS THE BAND FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL AND STILT WALKERS, AND THERE'LL BE FOOD TRUCKS AND THE MARKETPLACE AND CULTURAL GROUPS.
AND SO I INVITE THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY TO COME OUT.
THERE'S NO CHARGE. IT IS THE PALM BAY MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL THAT YOU ARE PARTNERS WITH US ON THIS AND WE DID GET SOME TOURISM DOLLARS TO KIND OF HELP PROMOTE THIS.
AND YOU'LL START SEEING THE BILLBOARDS AND THERE WILL BE AN ARTICLE IN HOMETOWN NEWS.
WE'VE GOT ARTICLES THAT WERE IN EVERYTHING BOVARD.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN SENIOR SEEING.
WE'RE REALLY JUST STARTING TO BLAST THAT OUT THERE.
SO WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP ON THIS EVENT, THIS INAUGURAL ONE THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE A REALLY GREAT EVENT.
SO AND YEAH, KENNY DID DO A FABULOUS JOB AT THE OPEN HOUSE LAST FRIDAY WITH HIS DANCE PARTNER. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ONLINE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT AT THE CHAMBER SITE. HE WAS.
HE DID NOT STEP ON HER TOES AND DID AN AWESOME JOB.
THE WHICH WAS ALSO A RENDITION OF OH NO, THESE TWIRLS AND EVERYTHING.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BALLROOM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SALSA.
YES, WE DO HAVE A VIDEO, BY THE WAY.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE. WE HAVE PROOF.
SO THERE IS A VIDEO CHECK ONLINE.
OH, IT'S ACTUALLY ON FACEBOOK.
SEE, I THINK HE WAS AUDITIONING BECAUSE HE DID AN AWESOME JOB.
HE WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE DANCING.
THAT'S AMAZING. HE'S BLUSHING.
YEAH, YEAH, HE IS, ISN'T HE? ANYTHING ELSE? NO, NO, MAN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU'RE GOING TO CLAP. DON'T PANIC.
WHY? DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WE HAVE SPEAKER KHADSE PASTOR KEN DELGADO.
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KEN DELGADO, ONE, FIVE FOUR, ANGELO ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.MERRY CHRISTMAS. I JUST HAVE A THOUGHT THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU YESTERDAY WITH WHAT WE CALL THE GENERATION CHOSEN THAT THE YOUTH ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, THEY'RE THE ANSWER, THEY'RE THE SOLUTION.
I HEARD HALF A DOZEN YOUNG JUNIOR HIGH SENIOR HIGH YOUTH SHARE THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH FROM DEPRESSION.
TO PARENTS LEAVING THEM AND ALL THE HEARTACHE THAT WENT THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH, AND WE FOUND OUT THAT THE ONE THING THAT CHANGED THEIR LIVES WAS THE VERY SAME THING THAT CHANGED MY LIFE.
SOME ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO, I WAS ABOUT TO FOLLOW MY FATHER'S FOOTSTEPS IN IN IN A DIVORCE WITH MY WIFE.
WHEN JESUS CHRIST CAME INTO MY LIFE, SAVED OUR MARRIAGE AND NOW MADE IT WHAT IT IS TODAY, SOMETHING IS GOING TO LAST FOR A LIFETIME.
AND SO I'M REMINDED OF THE THE MOMENT TWO MILLENNIUM AGO, WHEN A GIFT WAS GIVEN TO THE WORLD, WHICH WE ARE CELEBRATING THIS TIME WHEN ANGELS APPEARED TO SHEPHERDS.
AND HE SAID THIS, THEY SAID THIS GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST AND ON THE EARTH, PEACE, GOODWILL TO MEN.
AND THIS IS WHAT I SEE, BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THOSE YOUTH SHARED HOW GOD, HOW THE WORD OF GOD, THE WORD OF LIFE MADE THE DIFFERENCE AND HELP THEM OVERCOME THE DIFFICULTIES THAT WE CEASE HAPPENING SO MUCH THROUGHOUT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND THROUGHOUT THIS WORLD.
THE ANSWER WAS THERE WAS A PEACE, A GIFT.
OF GOODWILL THAT GOD GAVE TO THEM AS THEY REACHED OUT AND TOUCHED THE GIFT OF JESUS CHRIST, THE GIFT OF LIFE AND MADE THE DIFFERENCE, EVEN AS IT DID IN MY LIFE AND THE LIFE OF MY EXTENDED FAMILY, BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT WENT THROUGH THE SAME DIFFICULTIES THAT WE WENT THROUGH, AS WELL AS MY WIFE.
AND SO I LIKE TO THINK THAT WE CAN WALK ON THIS WORLD IN A NATURAL SENSE.
OR WE CAN TOUCH SOMEONE THAT IS SUPERNATURAL TO TOUCH OUR NATURAL, TO MAKE OUR LIVES SUPERNATURAL AND OPEN UP A GIFT.
WHERE THERE'S A PEACE THAT PASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S A PEACE THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES SO THAT WE CAN OVERCOME THE NATURAL DIFFICULTIES THAT WE ALL FACE, AND I'M SURE EVERY ONE OF YOU FACE THAT THERE IS A GOD IN HEAVEN.
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I'M TRYING TO BRING PEACE AND GOODWILL IN EVERY SITUATION AT EVERY MOMENT, AND THAT WE CAN OPEN UP THAT PACKAGE EVERY DAY.AND WITH THAT, I DO WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES TO HAVE A VERY BLESSED AND MERRY CHRISTMAS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, I WASN'T EXPECTING TO EARLY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR GETTING THE BUTCHER RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR GETTING THE WEEDS CUT OVER IN UNIT 19.
HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE GET ON A SCHEDULE COME SPRINGTIME THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH THE STOP SIGNS COVERED WITH WEEDS.
I APPRECIATE THAT. NEXT ONE IS WHAT IS THE STATUS OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA? I'VE SEEN NO CONSTRUCTION ANYWHERE.
AND I REALIZED WE'VE GOT COVID AND ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON, BUT IF YOU JUST GET SOME KIND OF UPDATE ON THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AS TO HOW THAT'S GOING.
NEXT THING IS THIS NEW LIGHT, IT'S GOING IN WEST OF WAL-MART.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT A QUARTER MILE.
I HAVEN'T MEASURED IT YET, BUT I'M GUESSING.
ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THING IS SYNCHED SO WE DON'T GET TRAFFIC BACKS UP ANY WORSE THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT ON MALABAR ROAD? AND IS IT GOING TO BE A LEFT TURN AND A RIGHT TURN OR A RIGHT TURN WESTBOUND ONLY? AND JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
WHICH ALL OF YOU A GREAT CHRISTMAS, A GREAT 2022, AND LAST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS GO BEARCATS. CINCINNATI BEARCATS TAKE THE ALABAMA BOYS DOWN.
BUT MADAM SHERMAN, THESE ARE REALLY GOOD.
AS YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT OTHER TRAFFIC LIGHT AS WELL.
PERHAPS WE CAN START WITH THAT, MAKING SURE SYNTH AND A LEFT TURN.
YES, SIR, I WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO PULL UP THE PRESENTATION AT THE DECEMBER 2ND COUNCIL MEETING, WE ACTUALLY DID OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WHO CORRECTED AN OVERVIEW OF A NUMBER OF THINGS YOU ASKED ABOUT.
I WAS TRYING TO PULL THAT UP REAL QUICK.
BUT ESSENTIALLY IT DID PROVIDE AN UPDATE AS TO WHICH UNITS WE WERE GOING TO BE STARTING.
YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE START TO ROLL OUT IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO AGAIN.
ALL OF THE NORTHEAST SECTION, THAT'S THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PAVING START UP THERE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, THE OLDER LIKE COUNTRY CLUB UNITS, AREAS LIKE THAT POWELL AREA, THE ENTIRE NORTHEAST ESSENTIALLY IS ON THE LIST AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE DO TRY TO KIND OF SPREAD IT OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
SO, YEAH, THERE WILL BE SOME ROAD PROGRAMS STARTING AGAIN.
YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT STORMWATER PIPE REPLACEMENTS GOING ON.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID SPEAK AT LENGTH ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING WAS OUR EFFORTS TO GET BACK ON A A TRUE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE REGARDING OUR RIGHT OF WAY AND OUR CANAL MAINTENANCE, WHICH HAS DEFINITELY GOTTEN BEHIND.
THERE HAVE BEEN EQUIPMENT ISSUES.
WE'RE DOWN LIKE 10 MAINTENANCE WORKERS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO IT.
OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO GET BACK ON A SCHEDULE THAT WILL GET US TO BE ABLE TO COMFORTABLY SAY TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE CAN GET TO UNIT MOWING AND WE CAN DO THAT ON A SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS SCHEDULE ALL YEAR ROUND.
OBVIOUSLY, IN THE DRIER MONTHS, WE DO IT LESS FREQUENTLY.
WE'RE REALLY WORKING HARD TO GET BACK ON THAT SCHEDULE.
PART OF IT IS WE'VE HIRED WITH COUNCIL'S BLESSING.
WE'VE HIRED A MOTION CONTRACTOR TO HELP US WITH SOME OF THE MAJOR CORRIDORS SO WE CAN ASSIGN THOSE TEAMS TO OTHER MOWING.
AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A CONTRACTOR TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE CANAL MAINTENANCE, MOWING AND POND MAINTENANCE MOWING, BOTH OF WHICH WILL FREE UP THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO DO ALL OF THE CITY FOCUS ON OTHER AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO. SO WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO MAXIMIZE OUR ABILITY TO MEET THOSE NEW DEADLINES WE'VE ESTABLISHED FOR LEVEL OF SERVICE.
ADDITIONALLY, YOU WOULD ASKED ABOUT THE LIGHT WEST OF MELBOURNE.
YES, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY SUPPOSED TO SYNC UP WITH THE LIGHT AT EMERSON.
IF IT DOESN'T, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM CLEARLY.
I DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE TURN LANES WILL BE STRUCTURED, BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU AS WELL. AND THE MAYOR HAD ASKED ABOUT THE THE LIGHT, IT'S THE NEWER LIGHT IN NORTHWEST EMERSON GLEN.
THEN, DALE, I ALWAYS SAY LYNDALE, SO THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC, AND THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS REGARDING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO TURN LANES AND NO TURN SIGNAL OPTIONS AT THAT LIGHT.
IT'S JUST A STOP AND GO LIGHTS.
BUT WE ARE WORKING TO FIX THAT AND TO BRING A FUNDING ITEM TO COUNCIL TO GET THAT DESIGNED AND BID OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
WHICH, IN OTHER WORDS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IN AND HIGHLIGHTING THESE ISSUES, BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE DEFINITELY TAKEN CARE OF THAT GLENDALE SITUATION WAY BEFOREHAND.
APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE ARE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, NUMBER ONE, AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO
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MADAM SMITH. THE FOLLOWING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER ONE TO EIGHT, 10 AND 12.ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER? ASSIGN A SPEAKER CARD CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.
ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSED IN THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.
ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.
COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY AS COMPLY WITH SECTION FIFTY NINE POINT ZERO THREE AND EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES PER WITNESS.
THE OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.
THE HEARING THEN WILL BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
COUNSEL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.
AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT SEVENTY EIGHT, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE ZONING ORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, A CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM S.C.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
ITS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET AND VICINITY SOUTH OF FOUNDATION PARK BOULEVARD, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE IN THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. COULD HE BE MAYOR COUNCIL, I DIDN'T PRESENT A ANY PRESENTATION.
I'M JUST HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, KYLE COSBY COMING.
KIMBERLY HORNE ENGINEERING AND I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC OR COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
SO YOU. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? ADAM SHERMAN, ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD NOTHING ADDITIONAL, SIR.
HEY, I'M. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? NOTHING. OK, WELL, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A A MOTION MOTION APPROVED WARRANT, ITS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH SEVENTY EIGHT FINAL READING SECOND AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING INTO MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, SEVENTY NINE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS GARDEN STATE WATER ST.. PHASE THREE AND PUDI PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY WEST OF MALAMA BOULEVARD AND SOUTH OF MELBOURNE TILLMANN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT. CANAL 38 ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NASTY APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. APPLICANT.
SLEEP. DAVID TOM WAS SEGUE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.
YOU COUNCILMAN ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. NO COMMENTS, MADAM SHERMAN.
NO, SIR. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ASKING COUNSEL FOR A MOTION A MOTION IMPROVE ON THIS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH, SEVENTY NINE FINAL READING SECOND, THE MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WHERE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY ONE EIGHTY.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF
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ORTIZ'S TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 60 FOR BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BY REPEALING THE CHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF AUDIENCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
OK. GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MS. SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS IS THE FINAL READING FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REPEAL THE CHAPTER THAT INCLUDES THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
I'VE BEEN ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
MADAM SHERMAN ALSO IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU KNOW, AND I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH EIGHT, A FINAL READING SECOND AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
A FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.
SEEING, NONE ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
MADAME SMITH ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH EIGHTY ONE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER THIRTY FIVE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, A REPEAL IN THE CHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDED FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AND I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS ITEM IS THE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, SO THESE ARE FINAL READINGS AS WELL TO MODIFY THE LANGUAGE AND THE EXISTING FINANCE DEPARTMENT CHAPTER AND TO SIMPLIFY THAT PARTICULAR LANGUAGE.
SO THIS ITEM NUMBER FOUR WILL REPEAL THE EXISTING CHAPTER IN ITEM FIVE WILL CREATE THE NEW CHAPTER. THANK YOU.
QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME.
COUNCILWOMAN ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING, NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE. TWENTY TWENTY ONE EIGHTY ONE FINAL READING I CAN I GOT MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON SEEING INTO MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSED THIS UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE ITEM NUMBER FIVE PUBLIC HEARING WITNESS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH EIGHTY TO AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA.
THE MANY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION BY CREATING CHAPTER THIRTY FIVE TO BE TITLED FINANCE DEPARTMENT, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN A CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MADAME SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THIS IS THE AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT CREATES THE NEW FINANCE DEPARTMENT LANGUAGE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE AWNINGS. TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH.
THANK YOU! MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED THIS UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT EIGHTY THREE.
AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATED AND ABANDONED AND A PORTION OF THE RIGHT ROAD RIGHT AWAY.
KNOWN AS MERCURY AVENUE SOUTHEAST, AS RECORDED IN TWENTY ONE PAGE, THIRTY TWO OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NASTY THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE A FAIRLY UNIQUE REQUEST HERE.
MY CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO VACATE APPROXIMATELY THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE THERE AT THE SOUTH END OF THE INTERSECTION OF LOCKHEED AND MERCURY AVENUE.
WHAT THIS ALLOWS HIM TO DO IS CREATE A GATED COMMUNITY.
RIGHT NOW, HE OWNS FOUR OR SORRY.
HE JUST FINISHED PURCHASING THE FIFTH OF FIVE PARCELS THAT WERE DOWN THERE TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ENCLAVE, AND THAT WILL ALLOW HIM TO WALL IN AND CREATE A GATED COMMUNITY. BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M ACTUALLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT CONSIDERING THE HISTORY OF THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE CITY. IT SURELY IS.
I APPLAUD THE DEVELOPER OR THE OWNER THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, INVEST.
IT'S A MASSIVE INVESTMENT, AND I TRULY APPRECIATED THAT.
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WHAT IS IT? I GET THE THE IDEA OF CREATING A CREATING A COMMUNITY.BUT IS THERE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION SO THE CITY RIGHT AWAY, A SIDE STREET? I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO.
I KNOW. THERE IS A RETENTION POND.
YES, SIR. RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND, I'VE GOT AN EXHIBIT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANY QUESTIONS WERE GOING TO COME UP.
THIS WILL HELP WITH SOME OF THAT.
BUT. SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS BY VACATING WHAT'S THERE IN BLUE, THE PORTION OF MERCURY AVENUE, IT ALLOWS FOR A LITTLE BIT ADDED DENSITY TO THE FIVE PARCELS WHEN THEY BECOME COMBINED.
THE TWO THAT JUST WERE PURCHASED ARE DOWN THERE ON THE SOUTH END OF MERCURY AVENUE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THAT ENTIRE AREA.
SO LOOKING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION TO BE GATED.
AND THEN THE THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN YELLOW ARE WHAT'S GOING TO BE NO.
WELL, AT THE VERY END OF THE STREET, IT'S A CUL DE SAC, THEN YOU KIND OF SOMEWHAT ENTERED INTO THE NEW NEWER, THE NEW ACQUISITION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE'S POTENTIALLY MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT YOU? YES. SO THERE WOULD BE A GATE THERE AT THE VERY NORTHEAST AND THEN THERE ON MERCURY AVENUE, AS WELL AS THE DRIVEWAY THAT COMES OFF OF LOCKHEED AND WE WOULD RECONSTRUCT THAT CUL DE SAC. I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT WHAT WAS THE PLAN FOR THAT AREA? A COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
OF CONSTRUCT, THIS GATE, WAS THAT A STONY ENTRANCE INTO THIS? NO, SIR, THERE WILL BE THREE GATES, THREE GATES.
YES, SIR. THE ONE AT THE NORTHEAST, ONE THERE WHERE MERCURY AVENUE IS CURRENTLY AND THEN ONE WHERE THE MORE WESTERN ENTRANCE IS CURRENTLY OFF OF LOCKHEED.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO ECHO WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX SAID, AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE SEEN THE IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY, SO I WANT TO CONVEY MY APPRECIATION FOR ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN BRINGING IN THAT HIGH LEVEL BEAUTIFICATION IF, IF YOU WILL.
ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND PASS THAT ON.
I WILL. MARY, IF I MAY WANT ONE MORE QUESTION, WHICH YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IN THE EFFORT THAT THE CITY WE'RE PUTTING FORTH WORKING WITH POTENTIAL DEVELOPER THAT ALL LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE LACK OF HOUSING AND IN TERMS OF OFFER.
YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FOUR OR COMMUNITY IS THERE, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE APPLICANT, SO I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
IS THERE A PLAN OR WHAT ARE THOSE APARTMENTS GOING FOR A MARKET RATE OR IS THERE? OK, SO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER HAS TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.
THIS BEING THE FIRST OF HIS DEVELOPMENTS WHEN HE CAME DOWN FROM NEW YORK AND STARTED INVESTING WELL, HIS FATHER, SORRY, STARTED INVESTING IN PALM BAY.
THEY STARTED OFF WITH MERCURY COVE ONE, THEN TWO, THREE AND FOUR, WHICH IS OVER THERE ON THE WEST. THESE GENERALLY ARE A LITTLE BIT BELOW MARKET RATE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER.
I THINK SIX TO 800 WAS THROWN OUT THERE.
THE OTHER OF HIS DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH IS ALSO IN PALM BAY IT'S CURRENTLY IN PERMITTING, IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT.
BUT ALL OF IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
OR YOU ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS, MADAM SHERMAN.
UM, NO OTHER THAN JUST THE STATE WHAT'S IN THE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH DOES INDICATE THERE ARE SOME STAFF REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE APPROVAL.
MA'AM. HE WENT IN, THE AUDIENCE WAS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SADDAM, STEPPED FORWARD MASTER CHIEF. BILL IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I CONCUR. IT'S A GOOD DEVELOPMENT, GREAT PLANNING.
I JUST WISH THE PACKET THAT YOU JUST RECEIVED WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE AGENDA PACKET SO I
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COULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND A LITTLE BIT MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE PRIOR TO ATTENDING THE MEETING. WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANALYZING, WE DON'T LIKE TO FOLLOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY.HE THAT GREAT POINT, MASTER CHIEF.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? DO YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE VACATION OF CERTAIN RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF THE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FIRST READING SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON THING AND THINKING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH, EIGHTY FOUR, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS, SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.
ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY MEN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MOUNT PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, I'M.
OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, I THE APPLICANT TO STATE THEIR CASE.
GOOD EVENING, MIGUEL RONALDO'S NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT TWENTY TWO POINT NINETY FIVE, SOUTH SHIAWASSEE ROAD, ORLANDO THREE TWO EIGHT THREE FIVE.
GOOD EVENING! AS YOU COULD TELL, WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF.
I'M BASICALLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
THINK THIS FUTURE, LANNY'S? THAT. YES, MARY.
THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOURSELF OR MR. STILL, AS WE'VE WORKED PREVIOUSLY BEFORE.
WHAT WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THIS AREA? WE'RE GOING TO MIRROR THE BAMBOO THAT WE HAVE ON AQUA ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE NOW OF RJ CONLON. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE CURRENT GMU ZONING, WHICH IS THE I THINK IT WAS 20 80 MIX ON ON THAT SITE.
OK. SO THAT LEADS TO MY SECOND QUESTION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T QUASI SURE I CAN GET INTO IT, BUT WHERE ARE WE WITH THE COMMERCIAL ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE THAT WE SITE PLAN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED WITH STAFF CURRENTLY, IT'S IN REVIEW PROCESS PHASE ONE.
OK, I'M ANTICIPATING PROBABLY ONE OR TWO REVIEW CYCLES AS WE GET IT CORRECTED AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS PROPER.
THE OTHER QUESTIONS. MADAM SHERMAN, ANY COMMENTS? NO, THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE ONLY ONE IN.
GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THIS AREA WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP AS OUR COMMERCIAL AREA BECAUSE WE HAD PLENTY OF RESIDENTIAL AREA AVAILABLE THAT COULD BE BUILT, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT UNDER A BAMBOO THAT THERE THEY WILL HAVE 20 PERCENT COMMERCIAL.
BUT WE'VE WATCHED SO MUCH OF THE RESIDENTIAL BEING BUILT, BUT WE'VE YET TO SEE ONE IOTA OF COMMERCIAL ON ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING THROUGH THIS ENTIRE CITY. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE'VE WATCHED THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF IT BE PASSED.
WE'VE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL.
SO UNDER BILL BATON STANDARD, I'M ALWAYS BEING A LITTLE BIT LOURY WHEN WE'RE GIVING UP OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL WHEN WE HAVE YET TO SEE A RETURN ON BUSINESS COMING IN. THAT BEING SAID, THEY THEY DO HAVE A RECORD AND IT'S GOOD ONES FOR PARTS OF IT AND SOME PARTS THEY HAVEN'T MET THEIR COMMITMENT YET.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING, NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A I WISH TO DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.
MOST AN APPROVED ORDINANCE. TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH 80 FOR ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND.
GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO ECHO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE CHIEF SAID.
I HAD A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME.
THE FUTURE LAND USE WAS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND I SEE THAT IN THAT QUARTER.
AT THE SAME TIME, NOW WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL NORTH SHORE APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE AND AND
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CERTAINLY TO PUT A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE.IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE, SO I'M GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM.
I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, ECHO THAT.
THAT WAS AT ONE POINT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN OUR CITY, GENTLEMEN. SO LET'S LET LET US KEEP THAT IN MIND.
BUT I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSED THIS UNANIMOUSLY.
WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, EIGHTY FIVE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM LIE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING DISTRICT TO BE IMU BAYFRONT MS. USE DISTRICT.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ROBERT JAKELIN BOULEVARD AND COMMERCE PARK DRIVE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE WITH THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD AND PRESENT THEIR. GOOD EVENING, MIGUEL RONALDO'S NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT TWENTY TWO POINT NINETY FIVE, SOUTH SHIAWASSEE ROAD, ORLANDO THREE TWO EIGHT THREE FIVE BASICALLY, THIS IS PART TWO OF THE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
NOW THE ZONING, WHICH WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GUARANTEE THAT WE DO WHAT WE SAY.
THANK YOU. QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN.
WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT.
THE SPEAKER CARDS. HEY, COUNCILMAN, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH EIGHTY FIVE.
FIRST READING SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND AND BAILEY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.
OF THAT WANTED TO CONFIRM WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER NINE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH EIGHTY SIX, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING REGULATIONS SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.
ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. WHEN I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT'S THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE, THOUGH THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ITEMS BROUGHT UP AT BNZ, WE HAVE ACCEPTED ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS. ONE THING THAT I NOTICED IN LOOKING OVER THE PACKET IS THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO SWAP OUT THE DOCUMENT THAT WE GAVE TO BNZ.
IF YOU'D LIKE THAT, I HAVE A COPY OF THAT ON HAND.
AND THE BIG CHANGE THAT IS ON THIS MAP THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED IS THAT THE RECREATION AREA HAS BEEN MODIFIED.
IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE THAT, I CAN PROVIDE A COPY.
THE. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE IS THAT MY CLIENT, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, ALSO TOOK THE TIME TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS AGAIN AFTER THE PNC.
I DO NOT KNOW THE RESULTS OF THAT, BUT I DID HEAR THAT IT WENT WELL.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND SO ANY QUESTION AT THIS TIME, THEY'RE OK.
IT'S. ANYONE IN? THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM.
MR. CHIEF, THE FORWARD I DID NOT SEE IN MY PERIPHERAL, I THOUGHT I SAW HIM FIRST.
SO YOU'RE VERY NEXT ON YOUR BATON.
586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE FOR ONE VERY BIG REASON THAT THIS LAND MASS NOW IS GOING TO BE TAXED WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME LAND, SOME MONEY REVENUE COMING IN OFF OF THIS OFF
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THIS PROPERTY. SO IT'S OUT THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WITH NOT ONE DOLLAR BEING BROUGHT INTO THE CITY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE COMING IN.SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT AND IT WASN'T BIG PLANNED UNIT FOUR TO BE PURCHASED. I MEAN, BUILT ON TO BEGIN WITH.
THANK YOU. WITH TAX DOLLARS COMING IN NOW.
NATHAN WHITE, 13, ON SEABURY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I. IT'S ODD TO FIND MYSELF NOT AGREEING WITH THE MASTER SERGEANT, BUT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, THIS PROJECT, THIS THIS, THIS CONCEPT, I SUPPOSE, IS REZONING CHANGING THIS LAND. DOES NOT FEEL CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AT ALL SAYING THAT.
ALLOWING UP TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
IN BAYSIDE AREA, CALLING THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA.
I STRUGGLE TO BELIEVE ANYONE WHO'S BEEN TO THE AREA COULD SAY THAT WITH ANY CLEAR CONSCIENCE. I AM CONCERNED THAT THE.
MONEY FACTOR, THE TAX DOLLAR FACTOR OR OTHER VARIOUS VERSIONS OF IT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH OF THE FOCUS HERE. THOUGH WE DO WANT THAT, WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF USES FOR THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE GREAT MANY SOURCES FOR THAT.
PALM BAY IS GROWING VERY FAST AND I WORRY THAT THIS DECISION WOULD JUST BE A AFFIRMATION OF THIS DECISION WOULD SIMPLY BE THE LATEST INSTANCE OF FOCUSING ON GROWTH AS A GENERAL CONCEPT AND AND PRIORITIZING THAT OVER SMART GROWTH.
WE ARE GROWING AND WE ARE GROWING VERY FAST, AND IF WE GROW POORLY, WE WILL ALL SUFFER FOR IT. IF WE THINK IN THE SHORT TERM INSTEAD OF THE LONG TERM, THEN THIS LOOKS GOOD.
WE THINK IN THE LONG TERM I AM NOT SO SURE.
I URGE COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME TIME TO CONSIDER THIS MATTER.
YOU ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? YOU NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A MOTION.
A MOTION SHOULD ORDERS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, EIGHTY SIX.
ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND.
I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX GENTLEMEN.
I'D LIKE TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS HERE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S COMPATIBLE, I UNDERSTAND THE PDS ALREADY SQUARED AWAY, I WAS LOOKING AT MORE. IT BELONGED TO THE DIOCESE OF ORLANDO.
I SEE IT MORE SERVE IN THAT AREA AS A CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND IN THAT AREA THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT OR A SCHOOL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE POPULATION AND THE TRAFFIC THAT COULD ARISE FROM ADDING APARTMENTS JUST SOUTH OF BAYSIDE LAKES, JUST ABOUT SO I YOU KNOW, I VOICED HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A FUTURE LAND. SO I CAN SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS.
THIS ISN'T QUASI JUDICIAL, AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
PUTTING. TYPE OF FACILITY IN THAT AREA IS JUST GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE GROWTH AND WE'RE NOT PREPARED IN THAT THAT TYPE OF VENUE.
I WOULD AGAIN STATE TO A SCHOOL WOULD BE GREAT THERE OR EVEN EVEN A CHURCH.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
THANK YOU. AND THAT'S WHAT I REFER BACK TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL SUBMIT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY AT THE APPLICANT'S EXPENSE.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DESIGN, PERMIT, INSTALL, INSPECT AND TEST THE WATER SYSTEMS OF ADEQUATE SIZE TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT AND TO CONNECT THE CITY, WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY WITH THE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY. THE LAND SHALL HAVE A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
SO WITH THOSE KEY, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS DESIGNATED AS A CHURCH AT FIRST, BUT YOU KNOW, THE BISHOP HIMSELF IS, YOU KNOW, PUT IN THIS APPLICATION.
I'M FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD THE SCHOOL ASPECT.
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YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MORE SO FOR THE BOVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO HANDLE.BUT WE DO NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF TRAFFIC.
SO I AGREE DEFINITELY ON THAT PART.
BUT I'M FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND I CAN'T.
I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, AND I UNDERSTAND THE BISHOP PUT IN FOR IT.
I WISH THERE WAS A CUSTOMER, THERE WAS A CHURCH AND IT'S JUST ABOUT THE TIMING OF IT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THOSE CONDITIONS.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND AT THE SAME TIME, OUR OUR TRAFFIC WOES CONTINUE EVEN TODAY, GETTING HERE FROM EAST PALM BAY TO TO THIS MEETING, IT TOOK ME OVER 40 MINUTES EAST OF PALM BAY ROAD. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, SOUTH.
THEY HAVE ONE QUARTER, ONE QUARTER TO THE NORTH SOUTH QUARTER, AND THEY USED KOGAN.
SO I CAN'T I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
I'M SORRY, GUYS, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
MARY, IF I MAY, OR AS YOU WERE JUST GOT PROMOTED AS YOU WERE COUNCILWOMAN FELIX THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD SUPPORT.
I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR DID A GOOD JOB DESCRIBE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND I THINK A SCHOOL IF YOU AT 3:30 IN THE AFTERNOON, IF YOU WILL SEE WHAT A SCHOOL COULD DO TO OUR TRAFFIC.
SO A SCHOOL, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING TO PUT THERE, IN MY OPINION. I THINK THIS PLAN HERE, IT'S WELL LATE THE LAYOUT.
IT'S GREAT. IT'S NOT A BUNCH OF SINGLE FAMILY.
I WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT IF I WAS JUST SINGLE FAMILY.
I'VE LIKED I LIKE THE MIX OF OF CONSTRUCTION IF YOU LOOK JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE SAME THING WITH FERRY CROSSINGS YOU HAVE.
BUT IF YOUR TOWN HOMES, I THINK IT WORKS WELL WITH SINGLE MIXTURE OF BOTH.
THAT'S WHAT OUR MARKET'S ASKING.
IT'S APPROPRIATE. JASON? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW. YES, THE CITY IS GROWING.
WE TALK ABOUT SMART GROWTH, AND I THINK THE CITY STAFF IS BEING SMART ABOUT IT BY ACCIDENT FOR TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE IMPACT AND MAKING IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE GROWING IN A IN A SENSE, WHERE HOUSES ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE.
BOY, AND MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE CITY, THE HOUSE, THE VALUE OF THE HOUSING, NEW CONSTRUCTION, EVEN EXISTING CONSTRUCTION IS GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE.
DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS TOM HOLMES.
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND I THINK THIS.
BECAUSE. I JUST DID A TOUR, NOT WITH MY COUSIN NOT TOO LONG AGO.
HE WANTS TO MOVE FROM ORLANDO TO PALM BAY.
AND SO I WENT OUT WITH HIM LOOKING FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AND IT'S A 12 MONTH WAITING LIST.
THE 12 MONTH RATE, UNLESS I SEE THE GENTLEMAN SHAKING HIS HAND AND DOING THAT 12 MONTHS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS HOUSE THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP.
EVERY MONTH IS GOING UP FIVE THOUSAND.
OH, HOUSE, I WANT TO BUILD COST THREE.
THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND BY THE END OF THE YEAR, IT'S GOING TO GO UP BY 50 THOUSAND OR MORE. THAT'S ON.
WHO'S MAKING THAT TYPE OF MONEY TO THESE HOUSES BY THE YEAR THE END OF 2022 IS GOING TO BE WORTH $400000.
IT'S CRAZY WITH INTEREST RATES IS GOING TO RISE NEXT YEAR, SO.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE.
AND WHAT SOMEBODY COULD PURCHASE, AND I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES THAT, ESPECIALLY IN A NICE AREA OF BAYSIDE LONGER, THEY MEET THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I CAN LIVE WITH IT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
SO EACH DEVELOPMENT WE APPROVE IT NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, AND WE NEED TO BE SMARTER ABOUT IT BECAUSE LIKE YOU, I HAD A HARD TIME GETTING HERE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC.
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AND. AND THAT WAS TRAFFIC OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY.IT TOOK ME LONGER TO GET HERE, SO.
I SAY THIS TO SAY THIS, I THINK THIS THIS IS HELP US GROW IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS MULTI HOUSING.
THANK YOU. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MARY JOHNSON SEEING INTO MY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR OF US THREE TO ONE ITEM NUMBER 10.
RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT SEVENTY ONE.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THE EUDY AND AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS THE LANDINGS AT BAYSIDE PUDI AND PUDI PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COGEN OSMOSIS DRIVES ILLEGAL DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR FILING OF THE FINAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
NOW, OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, NASTY APPLICANT IS PRESENT THEIR CASE.
PART TWO. DAVID BASHFORD MPV ENGINEERING.
I KNOW THAT THE PREVIOUS ONE PASSED, I DID WANT TO TAKE JUST A SECOND SINCE THIS IS A COMPANION AND ADDRESS ONE THING THAT THE PREVIOUS PERSON SPOKE ABOUT ABOUT THE DENSITY AND ALSO COUNCILMAN.
FELIX COMMENT IS I'D LIKE TO THANK CITY STAFF.
THEY MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO ADD THE TOWNHOMES.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY THAT ADDRESSES THEIR COMMENT AND THEN WHY THERE'S THE MULTI MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENCES.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN, ANY ANY COMMENT.
NOTHING FURTHER FROM STAFF, THANK YOU.
THE MAYOR AND SPEAKER CARDS, OK? YES, SIR. WHEN I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A A MOTION, MOST OF US PROVE CASE PD FIFTY TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WITH THE PWD APPLICATION PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, PLAT AND OPINION OF TITLE DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS ESTABLISHING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, CONCURRENCY THEIR TERMINATION LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD OF BREVARD COUNTY.
SUBMISSION OF AN ENDANGERED SPECIES ASSESSMENT.
IDENTIFICATION OF LIGHTING WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF CP 17.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE SECOND AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL INTO QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR, I MAY PASS PASSES THREE TO ONE, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 11 WITNESS. TWENTY TWENTY ONE DEATHS EIGHTY SEVEN.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING REGULATIONS SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.
ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDING THE FUTURE LEASE MAP.
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THE. GOOD EVENING, ANNA SAUNDERS WITH VSC CONSULTANTS THREE 12, SOUTH HARBOR, CITY BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA JUST, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
I THINK I'LL KEEP WITH THE TREND AND TRY AND KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.
DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE STAFF COMMENTS.
HAPPY TO COMPLY WITH THOSE AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST ASK.
QUESTIONS, COUNSEL, THE APPLICANT, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNSEL, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A A MOTION A MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE. TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH EIGHTY SEVEN.
ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED SECOND A.
MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.
THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN.
ALL IN FAVOR. HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE AN ITEM 12 WITNESS.
EIGHTY EIGHT AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
A CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM PMU PARKWAY MIXED USE DISTRICT TO S.C.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD IN THE VICINITY WEST OF ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HERE IN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE, WITH THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT.
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CFO ANNA SAUNDERS WITH BSE CONSULTANTS 312 SOUTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA THREE TWO NINE ZERO ONE JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS APPROVAL OF THIS.THIS IS PART TWO OF THE ITEM YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, BUT AFTER YOU'VE MADE YOUR DELIBERATION AND DECISION, IF I MAY JUST ASK ONE QUESTION WHEN YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I APPRECIATE IT.
ASK YOUR QUESTION NOW, BECAUSE ONCE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ABOUT THE ITEM I WAS JUST GOING TO SEE.
I'M ASSUMING THAT DEPUTY MANAGER JOHNSON MAY KNOW THIS, BUT DO WE HAVE A NEW STATE CHAMPION AS COCO WON? DO WE KNOW? OH, I'M LIKE I'VE BEEN RESPECTFULLY NOT CHECKING MY PHONE, BUT THE GAME STARTED AT SEVEN AND I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE AN ANSWER YET EITHER I KNOW, BUT I THOUGHT, BUT I FEEL LIKE HE'S SO CONNECTED TO THAT COMPONENT.
YOU KNOW, HE IT'S SO CONNECTED TO THE FOOTBALL COMMUNITY.
I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT KNOW THE ANSWER.
YEAH. YEAH, THEY THEY PLAYED TONIGHT IN THE MERRITT ISLAND PLACE TOMORROW NIGHT.
SO YES, BUT THEY STARTED AT SEVEN.
SO I JUST THOUGHT, MAYBE YOU GOT A TEXT OR A GOOD NOTE.
I TOLD YOU THERE'S NOTHING TO DO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LET ME KNOW.
THANK YOU. YOU HAVE ANY, ANY SPEAKER CARDS TO BE MADE.
NO, NO SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS, MADAM SHERMAN.
YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? NO. THANK YOU. OK, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOST IMPROVED. WHEN IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH? EIGHTY EIGHT FIRST READING SECOND AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
DON'T LOOK UP THE SCORE ALL IN FAVOR.
WE ARE ON AI OR ON CONSENT AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A FEW TO BE PULLED HERE.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
OK. BAILEY JOHNSON.HEY, COUNCILMAN. SO WE GOT THREE EIGHT.
YES, SIR. ALSO WISH TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS. I WISH THE PULL ITEM TO.
SO NOW IT'S TWO, THREE, EIGHT, 11, 12, 13.
OK. I THINK TWO, THREE AND 14 ALL GO TOGETHER.
THEY ALL KIND OF THEY ALL KIND OF I'M WITH YOU, I'M WITH YOU.
ALL RIGHT. IF YOU PULL IN THREE, YOU SHOULD BE PULLING TWO.
GOT IT RIGHT. AND THEN YOU SHOULD BE PULLING 14 AS WELL.
BUT GOT IT, BECAUSE THEY ALL INTERLINKED.
IT'S ALL ABOUT BUILDING CODE AND.
ARE WE GOOD, GENTLEMEN? GOOD. OK.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEMS TWO, THREE, EIGHT, 11, 12, 13, 14 AND 16.
SO I CAN. OK, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSED HIS UNANIMOUSLY.
AS YOU WERE, IF WE MAY CARRY ON WITNESS.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S NINETY ONE.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND MANY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER FIFTY FIVE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT PENSION PLAN BY INCREASING THE SUPPLEMENTAL BENEFIT AMOUNT FOR POLICE OFFICERS SEPARATED, SEPARATING WITH VESTED SERVICE OR RETIRING ON OR AFTER OCTOBER 1ST, 2021, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE ORDINANCE.
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THAT'S 90 TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY,
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FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE NINE BUSINESS TITLE 11 BUSINESS REGULATIONS CHAPTER 117 ALARM SYSTEMS BY REPEALING PROVISIONS WHICH PROVIDE FOR CIVIL PENALTIES FOR FALSE ALARMS PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION.THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY CALLS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH.
[2. Ordinance 2021-89, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 37, Growth Management Department, by removing the Code Compliance Division from the department's composition, first reading.]
JUST TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S EIGHTY NINE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER THIRTY SEVEN GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT BY REMOVING THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION FROM THE DEPARTMENTAL COMPOSITION PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.OK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
SO, MADAM, SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. I'D BE HAPPY TO.
SO AS WAS STATED, ITEMS TWO, THREE AND 14 ALL KIND OF INTERCONNECT.
ITEM TWO IS THE REQUEST TO TAKE THE ORDINANCE THAT IT INCLUDES GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND REMOVE THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
ITEM THREE ACTUALLY REQUEST TO ADD THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION UNDER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AND THEN ITEM 14 IS RELATED TO A SALARY INCREASE FOR THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL. I AM TO SPECIFICALLY, THOUGH, TO SPEAK TO THE PURPOSE BEHIND IT.
THIS IS A REORGANIZATION THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL, AND I'M REQUESTING YOUR CONSIDERATION OF.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO TAKE THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION.
IT'S CURRENTLY HOUSED UNDER GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
HISTORICALLY, IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IT HAS BEEN UNDER GROWTH MANAGEMENT, UNDER BUILDING AND ALSO UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE THREE PLACES IT'S BEEN.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO MOVE IT OUT OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND MAKE IT PART OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S SUPERVISORY CHAIN, AS IT WERE.
WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR IN THE MEMO AND WE'LL WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK VERY, VERY TOGETHER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND STAFF AND FINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO COMMINGLING OF FUNDS, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT AND CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE HAVE TO GUARD AGAINST THE BUILDING.
ENTERPRISE FUND CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES.
SO OUR INTENTION WOULD BE IF THIS IS APPROVED TO KEEP THE CODE COMPLIANCE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ACCOUNTS EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE AT UNDER GROWTH.
EXCUSE ME, UNDER THE GENERAL FUND, IT WOULD JUST BE RECODED WITH A BUILDING DEPARTMENT NUMBER TO IDENTIFY THEM AS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING FUND BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT NOT TO THE FUND. SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS WOULD BE AN ATTEMPT REORGANIZATION ATTEMPT TO BRING TWO GROUPS OF EMPLOYEES THAT WORK TOGETHER COULD WORK MORE TOGETHER TO DEAL WITH CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ITEMS. THEY ALSO HAVE A UNIT OF TWO FOLKS THAT DEAL WITH CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES SPECIFIC TO DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
THE BUILDING, OR EXCUSE ME, THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION HAS EIGHT EIGHT FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, AND THEY ARE TASKED WITH DEALING WITH THE CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES CITYWIDE.
SO WE FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SYNERGY BETWEEN THE TWO UNITS FOR THEM TO WORK TOGETHER.
AND WE ALSO WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP.
VALENTINO PEREZ AS WE'VE SEEN THE EFFICIENCIES AND THE CHANGES HE'S BROUGHT TO SOME OF THE OPERATIONS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT BE A CODE, BE A PART OF THAT AS WELL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IT WAS I THAT PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE I JUST YOU MENTIONED CROSSING OF AN ENTERPRISE FUND WITH A GENERAL FUND THAT'S CREATING, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FAILURE, EVEN THOUGH THEIR CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO IMPLEMENT.
BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IF IF WE'RE FUNDING EMPLOYEES FROM THE GENERAL FUND, THEN THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD. THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD REMAIN.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR ULTIMATE REASON IS TO BRING IN THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP OF VALENTINO INTO THIS MIX, BUT THEIR CODE, IN MY OPINION, IS DIFFERENT THAN BUILDING CODE.
THEY'RE ADHERING TO DIFFERENT TYPE OF CODES.
I DON'T I DON'T APPRECIATE TRYING TO PUT THEM TOGETHER IN THAT SENSE.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT COUNCIL.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? HAPPY MARRIAGE, MY UNDERSTANDING LIKE THE FUNDING IS STILL GENERAL FUND, CORRECT? YES. TO BE CLEAR, WE WILL NOT BE FUNDING ANY OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES, NOR WILL THEIR REVENUES AT ALL BE FUNNELED INTO THE BUILDING ENTERPRISE FUND.
THERE WILL BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE AS THEY AS THEY HAVE ARE NOW.
YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE PAYING THEIR SUPERVISOR, RIGHT?
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AM I? AM I MISSING SOMETHING? SO I KNOW WORDS. IF YOU IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, THEN VALENTINO WOULD BE PAID BY WHAT THE ENTERPRISE FUND? SO THE REQUEST IN ITEM 14 IS THAT THE ADDITIONAL PAY THAT WOULD WOULD BE REQUESTED FOR VALENTINO PEREZ OR BUILDING OFFICIAL WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF GENERAL FUND, NOT OUT OF BUILDING FUND TO MAKE IT CLEAR AND DELINEATE THE FACT THAT AS HE TAKES ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES THAT'S NOT BEING FUNDED OUT OF THE BUILDING FUND, IT WILL BE PAID FULLY OUT OF GENERAL FUND.SALARY, HIS ADDITIONAL SALARY FOR TAKING ON THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR OVERSIGHT OF CODE. AND YET THE ENTERPRISE FUND, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM A 10 PERCENT RAISE OR 11 PERCENT RAISE, I THINK IS WHAT YOU COULD DO THAT WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
YES, SIR. SO AND THAT'S WHERE I JUST DON'T DON'T AGREE WITH THE CROSSING OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CROSSING OF THE FUNDING.
I. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HIM GET A RAISE, IT SHOULD JUST COME FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
HE'S, YOU KNOW, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT INDIVIDUALS ARE ALL PART OF THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE COMMON MINGLING WE'RE REFERRING TO.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT CO-MINGLING THE FUNDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO SHIFT ANY OF THE ACCOUNTS, THE LINE ITEMS THAT DEAL WITH THE OPERATING OR THE PERSONNEL FOR THE CODE DIVISION.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO SHIFT THOSE INTO THE BUILDING FUND.
SO THE BUILDING FUND DOES NOT START PAYING FOR THE SALARIES OF THE STAFF OR ANY OTHER OPERATING COSTS THEY REMAIN WHERE THEY'RE AT, PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN THE CITY HALL ANNEX BUILDING, WHICH IS A GENERAL FUND BUILDING.
SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO COMMINGLING OF FUNDS AS IT WERE.
AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TO ME, MORALE IS HUGE.
WORKPLACE, I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD HISTORICAL ABILITY OF OF KEEPING OUR EMPLOYEES FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME NOW, MA'AM.
YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN A SHIFT IN YEARS PAST WHEN I WASN'T ON THIS DIET, AND I'VE SEEN HOW THAT EVOLVED AND THAT CREATED.
ON MORALE ISSUES, I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT THINGS GO, YOU KNOW, THEY GO SOUTH AND IT IT JUST AFFECTS OUR EMPLOYEES AND THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND I'VE SHARED THOSE WITH YOU.
I'M NOT. I'M CONSISTENT WITH HOW HOW I FEEL.
I WOULD PREFER THAT WE DIDN'T GO DOWN THIS PATH.
THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. I WANT TO.
IF MR. VALENTINO RAISED THAT WELL, DESERVES THAT.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT THESE TWO THINGS SHOULD BE REMAIN SEPARATE.
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
SO SO WHAT I SEE HERE AND MAYOR, I THINK YOU BRING A GOOD POINT IN TERMS OF YOU JUST BEING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTIOUS, YOU'RE BEING CAUTIOUS, YOU'RE BEING PRUDENT AS TO.
MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WE DON'T LEAVE ANY ROOM FOR ERROR OR THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, I WE.
AND NOT NOT BY ANY MEANS TO SAY YOU DON'T.
HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS.
I BELIEVE I SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT.
ENTERPRISE FUND CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE, BUT FOR THAT, FOR THAT BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT FUNDS SHOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR BUILDING BUSINESS.
WELL, FOR BUSINESS OF THAT DEPARTMENT, AND IF MR VALENTINE IS TAKING ANOTHER TASK, I THINK IT'S ONLY APPROPRIATE AS OUR CITY MANAGER PRESENTED THIS TO US AND I'M FULLY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S CHECK AND BALANCE.
SHE MADE IT CLEAR, SHE SAID, THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT BE EVERYTHING SHOULD WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A SECTION APPROPRIATELY.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
REALLY LEAD BY THIS BY BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY DO WORK THERE, THEIR WORK BUILDING INSPECTOR, QUOTE INSPECTOR.
THEIR WORK INTERTWINED IN MANY, MANY WAYS.
AND THE ASPECT OF CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL.
IT SHOULD BE ALL INSPECTORS OUT THERE OR CODE ENFORCER OUT THERE.
THEY SHOULD BE REALLY CUSTOMER SERVICE AGENT.
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AND WILL THE TEACHING OR RESIDENT OR ALL BUILDERS FOLKS OUT THERE HOW TO PROPERLY GET IT DONE AND NOT SO MUCH TO BE SHOWN AS AS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE ENFORCING IN SOME WAY.SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
BUT I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE ON ESTABLISHED CHECK AND BALANCE, AND IT'S NOT BY STATE STATUTE, I BELIEVE.
YOU HAVE TO STAY SEPARATE IF HE'S PRODUCING WORK THAT ATTRIBUTED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, RIGHTFULLY SO.
THAT SECTION OF IT SHOULD SHOULD BE COMING FROM A GENERAL FUND.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE ABILITY.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF.
OF A PITFALL OF OF SOMETHING GOING WRONG.
SO IF IF THIS IS LEGALLY SOUND, MADAM SMITH, WHAT ARE YOUR.
WHAT'S YOUR LEGAL ADVICE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS? IT IS LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE.
I'M A LITTLE SKEPTICAL AS A TOAD.
YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER AND WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION EVEN WITH THEIR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL BECAUSE WE DID THIS BEFORE.
AND LET'S JUST SAY WE DIDN'T QUITE.
OF COURSE, THERE WAS ADVICE ON HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE.
IT WASN'T QUITE FOLLOWED AND WE DID NOT DO IT CORRECTLY SO.
AND THE WAY THIS CAME OUT, ESSENTIALLY IT CAME DOWN IN A WAY IN WHICH LEGAL WASN'T CONSULTED. INITIALLY, IT WAS GOING TO BE ON AN AGENDA THE SAME DAY THAT LEGAL WAS GOING TO BE ADVISED OF HOW IT WAS GOING TO PAY FOR.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AS FAR AS WHETHER, YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, AND DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ASK.
IF YOU ASK THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IT WAS, THEY WERE GOING TO BE PEOPLE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT WERE GOING TO BE AT BUILDING AND THE REST WERE GOING TO BE IN THEIR CARS. I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THEY WERE ALL GOING TO STAY HERE BECAUSE IF WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE FROM CODE THAT GOES TO BUILDING.
I MAY VERY AG OPINIONS, WE CAN'T USE ANY OF BUILDING RESOURCES, AND THEN THERE WERE THINGS. ONE OF THE REASONS I HEARD THAT FOR THIS, WHICH IS THAT SO THAT COCA YOU UTILIZE THE RESOURCES OF BUILDING CODE CAN'T UTILIZE THE RESOURCES, THE BUILDING.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT MAKES THIS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IS ALSO WHY THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES LEGISLATIVELY AS FAR AS HOW LONG BUILDING CAN USE FUNDS IS, IS THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FEE AND A TAX.
SO THE INSPECTION FEES AND ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE THEM A FEE, THEY HAVE TO BE FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC. WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ITEM AND IT'S FOR A USE OR IT'S FOR A SERVICE, IT CAN BE A FEE. BUT A TAX IS SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN USE FOR THE GENERAL GOOD.
THE BIG ISSUE WITH TAXES AND FEES FOR THE CITY IS THAT BY OUR CONSTITUTION, YOU CAN ONLY TAX. THAT'S RIGHT, THE TAX IS PREEMPTED TO THE STATE, SO IF THE STATE DOESN'T SAY THAT WE CAN TAX, WE CAN'T.
AND SO WHEN THESE ARE USED INAPPROPRIATELY, THEY BECOME AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND AN ILLEGAL TAX.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SOME OF THE BUILDERS HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE AS FAR AS GIVING THE LEGISLATOR AND KIND OF LIKE, HEY, LET'S SEE WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, CITIES GENERAL FUNDS ARE TIGHT.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS A TEMPTATION WHEN YOU HAVE BUILDING FUND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FLUSH WITH CASH TO MAYBE KIND OF FUDGE OR WHATEVER.
AND SOME OF THE BUILDERS WERE ACTUALLY QUITE EFFECTIVE IN SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE THAT'S WHY SOME OF OUR FEES ARE SO HIGH, AND THEY'D BE ABLE TO GET CHANGES IN WHICH WHERE WE HAVE TO USE THE FEES WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, WE CAN'T CARRY THEM OVER.
SO I'M REALLY STARTING TO MAKING SURE THIS, AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE WE DID IT WRONG BEFORE, DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T CONTINUE TO DO IT WRONG.
BUT THERE CERTAINLY ARE CONCERNS.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HAVE AN EMPLOYEE PAID OUT OF TWO FUNDS? YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I MEAN, I THINK THAT WAS EVEN WHEN IN OUR AUDIT FUND, IT'S ONE THING YOU HAVE IS TWO GENERAL FUNDS, BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT ONE, THAT'S SPECIFIC.
AND CERTAINLY WE EVEN WHEN WE TALKED WITH THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OK, WELL, WHAT IF CODE ENFORCEMENT NEED MY STAFF? YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KNOW? DO WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE WE CHARGE BY THE HOUR? HOW DO WE MAKE THIS WORK AND WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT UTILIZING RESOURCES? IT CAN WORK.
IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY A LOT OF DEDICATION AND IT TAKES PEOPLE STAYING TRUE TO WHAT
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HAS TO BE DONE.THERE'S ALWAYS THERE'S LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TEMPTATION BECAUSE BUILDING HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY.
GENERAL FUND IS TIGHT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE COMING UPON OUR SALARY SURVEY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAYBE INCREASE IN SALARIES FOR VARIOUS GENERAL EMPLOYEES WHEN WE'RE KIND OF TAKING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF GENERAL FUND TO GIVE SOMEONE IN AN ENTERPRISE FUND? SO I KIND OF WORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE TEMPTATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING USUALLY IS A LITTLE TIGHT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE IS A WAY TO DO THIS LEGALLY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND I DO AGREE THERE'S YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE UNINTENDED ISSUES THAT HAPPEN.
THINGS FALL BETWEEN THE CRACKS, GENTLEMEN, AND THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS THAT SOMETHING CAN FALL BETWEEN THE CRACKS.
AND I BELIEVE IN AVOIDING ANY TYPE OF PITFALLS THAT IT'S GOING TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL CHECKS AND BALANCES ON A CONTINUAL BASIS.
SO CERTAINLY, I SHARE THOSE CONCERNS THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY SHARE.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR MADAME SMITH.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING THE FAILURE WAS DUE TO NOT LISTENING TO THE LEGAL ADVICE.
WAS THERE ADDITIONAL ADVICE GIVEN AS WELL? WELL, YES, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE YOU CAN GIVE LEGAL ADVICE, BUT LEGAL ADVICE, AS FAR AS HOW THIS REALLY PLAYS OUT, YOU KNOW, COACH KNOWS HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.
NOBODY KNOWS HOW IT PLAYS OUT AND FINANCE KNOWS HOW IT PLAYS OUT.
NONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS ARE OPERATED UNDER THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SO I CAN ADVISE AND THEY CAN DECIDE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
AND I MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW AND TILL AFTER THE FACT OR IT'S TOO LATE, YOU KNOW THAT THINGS AREN'T BEING DONE PROPERLY.
BUT WE DID HAVE A MEETING TO GET ALL THE PARTIES TOGETHER, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING FINANCE. WE DID HAVE FINANCE AT THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLAIN, AND I TOOK AWAY MY CONCERNS AS FAR AS HOW THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT THAT WAS CERTAINLY THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD WITH THE HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, WE ALL KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE SHOULD BE DONE AND THAT IT CONTINUES PAST THE MEETING.
AND WITH THE MEETING, YOU SAID YOU, YOU HAD THE MEETING, BUT THE FINAL OUTCOME WAS EVERYBODY AGREEABLE TO YOUR CONCERNS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU ADDRESSED? WELL, I THINK WHAT WE WHICH IS WHY WE WENT BACK TO MOVING, NOT HAVING CODE MOVE IS THAT CERTAINLY WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL COMPUTATIONS AS FAR AS CALCULATIONS, MAKING SURE THAT THE GENERAL FUND WAS PROPERLY PAYING FOR THE BUILDING FUNDS.
AN ATTEMPT TO SIMPLIFY IT, BECAUSE THE SIMPLER IT GETS, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN IF IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, ENTERPRISE FUND DEALING WITH ENTERPRISE, BUT WE DID TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT WITHOUT HAVING THE CODE THERE.
SO I THINK THAT CERTAINLY WILL HELP.
AND WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAYS OR IT CHANGES, BUT CERTAINLY HAVING NOT HAVING CODE PHYSICALLY UNDER BUILDING WILL CERTAINLY HELP WITH KEEPING THEM ON TRACK.
OK. I WANTED JUST TO SHARE WHAT WAS SHE JUST SAID.
AND IF YOU CATCH, IF YOU CAUGHT WHAT SHE SAID WAS THIS WAS A MOVING TRAIN.
AND IN THE MOVING TRAIN, IT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THAT THAT THEY SAID, HOLD UP, WE CAN'T MOVE, WE CAN'T MOVE CODE ONTO THE BUILDING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH LATITUDE THAT COULD BE SO MUCH PITFALL.
LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND THIS COUNCIL MAY BE LEANING THAT WAY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING IS. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME WAY THAT IT IS TODAY.
WE SHOULDN'T BE MIXING OR CROSSING THE STREAMS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT IN.
AND IT COULD BE LEGALLY DONE, BUT YOU'RE CREATING A PITFALL AND THE PERSPECTIVE OF ONE COUNCILMAN FOSTER. I BELIEVE YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
THANK YOU, SIR. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, LET ME LET ME ASK THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER.
HOW MANY FUNDS DID THE CITY HAS? HOW MANY FUNDS DO WE OPERATE OUT OF?
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THERE'S A LOT. EXACTLY.DOZENS AND DOZENS, I'M LOOKING AT LARRY, I'M NOT SURE OFFHAND, BUT BUT WE WE HAVE A LOT OF FUNDS THAT WE PAY DIFFERENT SALARIES OUT OF PAY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OUT, RIGHT? SIR. YES.
AND WHO WHO MAKES THESE FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS.
WELL, THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO IT.
AT THE BEGINNING OF A FISCAL YEAR, YOU WILL HAVE APPROVED A BUDGET THAT HAS LINE ITEMS AND SPECIFIC FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS DURING THE YEAR.
THERE ARE VARIOUS BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND TRANSFERS THAT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL.
SOME ARE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY BUT SPECIFIC TO MOVES OF ANY KIND OF FUNDING BETWEEN AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND GENERAL FUND.
ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS WOULD HAVE TO COME DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL BEFORE THEY COULD BE AUTHORIZED.
AM I RIGHT? AND THE SALARY IN THIS IS THE BUCK STOPPED RIGHT HERE.
AND THE SALARY IS PAID THROUGH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
EACH INDIVIDUAL SALARY IS PAID THROUGH OUR FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT, YES, THROUGH THE PAYROLL DIVISION OF FINANCE, YES.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUNDS GETTING MIXED UP.
THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE DIRECTORS.
LATINOS, HE'S A PROFESSIONAL AND I THINK.
HE COULD HANDLE MANAGING A CODE ENFORCEMENT AND NOT COMMITTING THE FUNDS WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
BUT I THINK THIS IS A LEADERSHIP DIRECTION ALSO.
IS HE PROVING AS BEING AN EFFECTIVE LEADER? AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY, YOU SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FROM FOR IT, AND IF IT'S NOT OUT OF THE BUILDING FUND, IT SHOULD BE OUT OF SOME FUND.
SO. I DON'T I DON'T GET THE WHOLE CONVERSATION THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS IT'S LEGAL TO DO, THE CITY MANAGER SEES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LEADERSHIP AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND I THINK WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN THAT.
HE HAS A DIRECTOR THAT'S SHOWN LEADERSHIP.
I THINK HE KNOWS WHEN THE SPENT BUILDING FUNDS DOLLARS.
I THINK HE KNOWS WHAT WHAT ITEMS NEED TO BE SPENT ON THAT.
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO I'M FOR THIS, I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY CONVERSATION AND I JUST I DON'T I DON'T GET IT.
I THINK IT'S A LEADERSHIP DIRECTION.
I THINK. THE MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IN CHAPTER 37.
WE ARE GOVERNED BY ORDINANCE WE FOLLOW.
OUR CITY ORDINANCE AND OUR DIRECTORS FOLLOW THAT AND OUR PEOPLE IN EACH DEPARTMENT AUTO CITY ORDINANCE AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOLLOW CITY ORDINANCE.
THE PROBLEM IS WE GOT TONS OF FUNDS.
ANYTHING COULD GET MIXED UP BY ERROR.
I DON'T THINK IT'S INTENTIONALLY AND I DON'T SEE THIS BEING INTENTIONAL, I THINK THIS IS EVEN BETTER BECAUSE IT'S TWO SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS, IT GETS PAID.
ON THE ONE DIRECTOR, SO I THINK IT'D BE EVEN BETTER MANAGE WHEN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT HAND KNOW WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING.
SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANT YOU MADE A FEW COMMENTS, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THEM, THE FIRST IS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID YES, IT'S LEGALLY SOUND.
SO THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALREADY. OR NO, THIS IS AMERICA.
THERE IS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND YOU ALSO NEED TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
YES, MA'AM. MAY I ADD SOMETHING BRIEFLY? SURE. THANK YOU, SIR.
I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT, RESPOND A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY SHARED TO CLARIFY TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THE COMMENTS REGARDING PREVIOUS ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING FUND AND HOW THINGS WERE HANDLED BEFORE THOSE WERE UNDER PRIOR MANAGEMENT, NOT UNDER MY WATCH.
SO I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHEN YOU USE A REFERENCE TO A RUNAWAY TRAIN, ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS STAFF HAD CREATED THE INITIAL AGENDA ITEM.
HOWEVER, MYSELF AND THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HAD NOT YET SEEN IT, BUT IT WENT TO THE CITY
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ATTORNEY'S LEVEL BEFORE WE SAW IT.SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE CONCERNING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. THERE WERE EQUALLY CONCERNING TO MYSELF AND TO THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, AND WE CERTAINLY HAD WE SEEN THAT FIRST WOULD HAVE DEALT WITH THOSE ITEMS BEFORE THEY GOT TO HER LEVEL. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN THERE WILL NOT BE ANY INTENTION TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD PUT THE CITY IN A A DIFFICULT SITUATION IN AN ILLEGAL SITUATION. AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR POWER TO PUT THIS ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND TO DO IT WELL AND TO DO IT RIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW, THE TRAIN REFERENCE WAS EVERYBODY WAS ON BOARD.
I GUESS THE TRAIN WAS ALREADY MOVING, IS WHAT I INTENDED TO SAY.
AND WHEN THAT TRAIN IS MOVING, TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES TAKES A BARRIER.
AND THAT'S MY CONCERN IN THIS WHOLE ISSUE.
SO. IS THERE ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SO I NEED A MOTION.
A MOTION APPROVE ORDERS TWENTY TWENTY ONE, EIGHTY NINE.
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF JOHNSON AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? REAL QUICK MAYOR. I DIDN'T SPEAK ON THIS, BUT JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER REVAMPS WE'VE HAD WITH PARKS AND FACILITIES RECREATION, PUBLIC WORKS, I WAS HESITANT ON THOSE TWO OR THOSE HAVE SHOWN I'VE SEEN PROGRESS WITH IT AND WE COULD ALWAYS REVERT BACK.
SO I'M WILLING TO GIVE THIS A SHOT.
AND ALSO TO THAT POINT, WHICH I KNOW YOU'LL INTRODUCE HER, WE DO HAVE A NEW GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR WHO'S GOING TO BE TRYING TO LEARN THE ROPES AND EVERYTHING WORKING WITH MR. MURPHY. THERE HE IS, WORKING WITH MR. MURPHY AND THE REST OF STAFF.
SO I THINK THIS HELPS BOTH DEPARTMENTS.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WHAT WE CAN SEE AND WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK, BUT I'M WILLING TO GIVE IT A SHOT. I'VE BEEN A DEPUTY MAYOR.
THOSE THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THEY WEREN'T I DON'T RECALL THEM BEING ENTERPRISE FUND.
THEY. WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER, THE CAMARADERIE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, TALKING ABOUT, YEAH, YEAH, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.
I WAS REFERRING TO THE FUN PART.
YES, SIR. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND MS. COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR.
I PASSED THIS THREE TO ONE ITEM NUMBER THREE.
[3. Ordinance 2021-90, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 40, Building Department, by including the Code Compliance Division under the department's duties and responsibilities, first reading.]
WE'RE JUST TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S 90, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND MANY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 40 BUILDING DEPARTMENT BY INCLUDING THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION UNDER THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.CODE OF ORTIZ'S PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SEPTEMBER JOHNSON AND YOU SPEAK.
YOU. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, I AGREE TO THREE AND 14 ARE RELATED ITEMS. I DIDN'T PULL ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I WAS ONLY GOING TO SPEAK ONCE AND STAY ON THE SAME GENERAL TOPIC. THAT'S WHY I ONLY PULLED NUMBER THREE.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE AT THIS POINT NOW.
WHAT I'M HOPING FOR IS BETTER OUTCOMES BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING SOME SEVERE PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE WE SEE THE VIOLATIONS THAT JUST TAKE SO LONG TO CERTAIN PROCESS IS NOT WORKING OR THE CODE VIOLATIONS.
AND THEN THEY'RE REPEAT REPEAT OFFENDERS.
AND I HEAR FROM A CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING INTO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP COMBAT THAT.
BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE EFFECTS THAT THE EFFECTS OF THAT PLANNING.
I'M LOOKING FOR SOME BETTER OUTCOMES.
AND NUMBER TWO, I'D LIKE TO SEE LESS ABUSE OF INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE I PERSONALLY HAVE FACED THE FINES OF $20000 FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT FROM SOMETHING THAT I DID NOT BELIEVE WAS IN VIOLATION. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. SO BETTER OUTCOMES, LESS INDIVIDUALS.
AND REMEMBER, THIS IS A CITY ORDINANCE SO IT CAN COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN.
IF FOR SOME REASON YOU SEE IT'S NOT WORKING, IT'S NOT.
OH, THIS IS WHERE WE MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.
THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT ONE.
UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO CERTAINLY THERE ARE DEFINITELY CHANGES, IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT FOR THE CODE COMPLIANCE PROCESS.
SO SOME THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION RELATED TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THE ASPECTS OF THE ORDINANCE.
I KNOW PATRICIA COULD SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW.
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THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DIRECTED BY THE STATE THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT DO RESTRICT SOME OF THE TIMELINES. BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO STREAMLINE PROCESSES WHERE WE CAN.AND THAT CERTAINLY IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IF THIS CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD THAT UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, THEY WILL BE ASKED TO TO LOOK AT.
IN A MOTION. A MOTION IMPROVED ORDERS TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO NINETY FIRST READING, SECOND AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECOND OF MY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.
YOU'RE NOT I'M CALLING TO QUESTION.
[8. Consideration of the installation of a westbound restriction on Colorado Street as a traffic calming measure.]
WE'LL BET. GILBERT BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST CONSIDERATION OF INSTALLATION OF A WESTBOUND RESTRICTION ON COLORADO STREET AND TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR ROAD FOR TRAFFIC.
MY GOSH, THEY'RE DRIVING ON THE ROADS.
WHAT? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DRIVE YOUR CAR DOWN THE ROAD? RIGHT? THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT THE CAR DRIVES BY YOUR HOUSE, YOU GET UPSET.
BUT I CAN REMEMBER THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WE AS A RESIDENTS SIGNED A PETITION TO PUT A BERM ON GAINOR ROAD BECAUSE OF PEOPLE USING GAINOR ROAD AS THE CUT THROUGH ROAD OR THEIR TRAFFIC.
WE WE SIGNED, WE GOT OUR PETITION SIGNED.
WE GOT THE BERM BUILT AND EVERYBODY WAS SOMEWHAT CONTENT WITH THAT SIMPLE FACT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS, WELL, WE DON'T LIKE THE BERM THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO MOVE IN HERE WHERE THEIR DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO BE. AND SO BUT SO THE DEVELOPER SAYS, SO I'M WILLING TO MOVE THE BERM YOU STILL MEET WITH. THE RESIDENTS HAVE REQUESTED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THAT CALMING TRAFFIC MECHANISM INSTALLED.
WELL, ALL OF A SUDDEN CITY COUNCIL SAYS, WELL, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.
WE'LL JUST TAKE THE BERM AWAY.
AND THEY REMOVED THE BERM FOR THE TRAFFIC REGULATING SYSTEM THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA HAD REQUESTED.
AND BEHOLD, IF YOU ASK YOUR TRAFFIC, YOUR TRAFFIC MANAGER RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE TRAFFIC DOWN GAINOR ROAD IS RIDICULOUS.
AND THAT WAS A CALMING MEASURE THAT WE HAD REQUESTED.
WE SIGNED OUR PETITIONS, FOLLOWED THE PROCESS ONLY TO HAVE SOMEBODY SAY, WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY NOW.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS UPSET BECAUSE THERE'S CARS DRIVING PAST THEIR HOUSE NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT? BILL BRATTON DOESN'T CARE BECAUSE WE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS TO GET IT CORRECTED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WAS CORRECTED.
BUT WHEN IT WAS IN A DEVELOPER'S BEST INTEREST, ALL THEY DIDN'T CARE ANYMORE.
AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I CAN'T SAY WHO IS ON COUNCIL.
I KNOW IT'S NOT EVERYBODY, BUT I STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROCESS WE FOLLOWED AS THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE HERE.
SO THAT BEING SAID, FINAL THING.
I THINK THE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY SEE THAT MARKING ON THE ROAD, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DRIVE OVER THAT WHITE LINE AND GO AHEAD AND GO STRAIGHT INSTEAD OF TURNING RIGHT.
SO THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE DRIVING PAST THE PEOPLE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT AND MAKE RIGHT TURNS WHEN THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO ANYHOW.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. ADAM SHERMAN.
I THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE THE TRAFFIC HOMING DEVICE WILL NOT BE JUST WHITE LINES, IT WILL ACTUALLY BE TRAFFIC DELINEATED, SO THEY'LL BE KIND OF LIKE LITTLE DICKS POKING OUT OF THE GROUND.
THAT'S A NON-TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, IS PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY, IF YOU MAY HAVE THEM.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE GAINOR SPECIFIC HISTORY, SO I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REFRESH ON THAT IF YOU NEED ME TO.
BUT THIS IS SPECIFIC TO AN ISSUE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BASED ON RESIDENT COMPLAINTS ON COLORADO STREET TRAFFIC CUTTING THROUGH OFF OF BABCOCK TO GET TO SANFILIPPO AREA.
AND BASED ON THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, WE FOUND THAT NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF THE TRAFFIC DRIVING THROUGH THERE WAS INDEED CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, NOT TRAFFIC FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AFTER MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE PETITION THAT THEY SIGNED, WE WERE TAKING A UM. WE USUALLY DO A SORT OF AN INCREMENTAL APPROACH TO TRAFFIC CALMING, AND THIS WOULD BE LIKE A LOW LEVEL TYPE OF APPROACH TO TRY TO GET FOLKS TO STOP USING THAT CUT THROUGH AND GO TO THE LIGHT AT WYOMING, WYOMING, VAIL AREA.
BABCOCK INTERSECTION AND THE THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA DID GO THROUGH A SYSTEM AS WELL.
YES, OUR PROCESS AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE SORT OF STEPS THAT WE FOLLOW, BUT WE FIRST
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WE WE MEET WITH THEM AND WE USUALLY DO THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT DEFINITELY WE MEET WITH THEM AFTER WE'VE DONE SOME STUDIES AND WE'VE HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE AND ON THE TRAFFIC COUNTERS ALL OF THAT WE MEET WITH THEM, WE TALK ABOUT OPTIONS AND THEN ULTIMATELY THEY NEED TO DO A SURVEY AND HAVE I BELIEVE IT'S 80 PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO SIGN IT. THE ISD, I'M NOT SURE WE HAD AN EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT SURVEY RESPONSE ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.YOU, MA'AM. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. SO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CART? NO, SIR. AND I APPRECIATE.
MASTER CHIEFS, YOU KNOW, SAYING, HEY, WE WEREN'T ON THIS COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, BUT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF THE WESTBOUND RESTRICTION ON COLORADO STREET AS A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING INTO MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THE PALM BAY JOHNSON IS MAYOR NOT PERTAINING TO THIS ITEM, BUT BASED OFF WHAT MR BATTEN SAID, CAN WE PERFORM POSSIBLY AT 80 ON GAINOR DRIVE? YOU KNOW, JUST TO SEE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE AS WELL, SO THAT OK.
AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS UNANIMOUSLY WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER 11.
[11. Consideration of certain City-owned real estate on Northview Street to be designated as surplus property.]
GO BACK. ROBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I ATTENDED THE ARPA MEETING, YOU'RE ALL PRESENT WHEN I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON SPENDING OUR FUNDS ON.I REQUESTED WAS THERE ANY PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT WE COULD CONSIDER USING FOR THIS HOMELESS AND COLD WEATHER SHELTERS? AND PEOPLE LOOKED AROUND AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD REALLY WORK WELL FOR THAT.
WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS ALREADY A BOARDED UP BUILDING AND SAW THE CITY ALREADY OWNS IT. IT'S GOT THE CAPABILITY OF BEING CONVERTED ALREADY.
IT'S GOT THE LAND MASS, IT'S GOT IT'S GOT CITY WATER AND IT'S GOT CITY SEWER.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO SELL IT AS EXCESS PROPERTY, BUT IT'S ALREADY GOT THE FACILITIES ON IT THAT WE COULD HAVE USED FOR THE WHOLENESS OR THE COLD WEATHER SHELTER THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN, WHEN.
BUT YOU SAID, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ONE.
I DO SEE THAT THIS IS ONE ONE LOCATION WHERE WE COULD BENEFIT WITH OUR ARPA FUNDS, SINCE WE WANT TO INVEST POTENTIALLY $3 MILLION INTO THE INTO THE WHOLENESS AND THE IN THE COLD WEATHER SETUP.
WORKING WITH MELBOURNE, WEST MELBOURNE AND THE OTHER SIDE, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORKING WITH THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, UNLESS THERE'S SOME MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER OUT THERE WHO WANTS THIS LAND TO DEVELOP IT FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE BUILDINGS.
THE CITY HAS SOME BOARDED UP OR THEY'RE BOARDED RIGHT NOW.
WE COULD SPEND SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
WE WOULD HAVE A COLD WEATHER SHELTER AVAILABLE IN A MATTER OF DAYS BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE THE SKILLS TO BRING EVERYTHING BACK UP, PULL THE BOARDS OFF, OPEN IT, YOU KNOW, TURN THE ELECTRICITY BACK ON AND WE'LL HAVE A SHELTER RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT BEING SAID, AND IT COULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW US TO USE OUR ARPA FUNDS FOR SOMETHING ELSE. SO.
I ALSO AGREE YOU MIGHT MAKE A DOLLAR WHEN YOU SELL THE LAND, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY AT THE OTHER END.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. OF COURSE, MADAME SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THESE PROPERTIES WERE ORIGINALLY PURCHASED UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF NANCY, I'M LOOKING AT YOU TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INSIGHTS YOU WANT TO SHARE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THESE NEED TO BE PURCHASED.
THEY WERE PURCHASED UNDER A CERTAIN PROGRAM AND THE INTENTION IS.
UNDER THAT PROGRAM TO ACTUALLY REDEVELOP THEM AND THE DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS, HISTORICALLY, YOU OUGHT TO COME UP.
HE'S READY TO COME UP. THANK YOU. NANCY BOND IS OUR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. WE'VE HAD HISTORICAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THEIR EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED FOR HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE ELDERLY AND FOR VETERANS. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT IT COULD EVEN BE USED FOR COLD NIGHT SHELTER, SO DO IT. NANCY HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
GOOD EVENING, NANCY, BUT YOU NEED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTIES WERE ACTUALLY DONATED AND THEY WERE FOR THE NSP PROGRAM BECAUSE WE NEVER DEVELOPED THEM.
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MY UNDERSTANDING IS IS I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A CURRENT BUILDING OFFICIAL OR FORMER BUILDING OFFICIAL WENT IN AND DEEMED THAT THE BUILDINGS NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED.SO THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WHEN I CAME ON BOARD JUNE 1ST THAT WE WOULD DEMOLISH THE PROPERTIES THROUGH OUR CDBG DEMOLITION FUND, BUT WE DECIDED TO WAIT TO SEE BASED ON THE PROPOSALS, WHETHER OR NOT THERE COULD BE UTILIZED IN TALKING WITH THE RESIDENTS OF DRISKEL HEIGHTS. THEY HAVE A VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY AND SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT HAVING SOMETHING WITH VETERANS AND ELDERLY BECAUSE SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED HAS CAUSED SOME ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AROUND THAT AREA.
SO THEY WERE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW WE WOULD DEVELOP IT.
SO IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR A COLD NIGHT SHELTER? OF COURSE, SHE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IN AND BE CONVERTED INTO A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SPRINKLED, HAVE FIRE ALARM, THAT KIND OF THING.
IT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND, I'M SORRY, IN FRONT OF REPUBLIC SERVICES, THE TWO IN THE BACK OR ACTUALLY LANDLOCKED.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
MAYOR, THE OTHER THING THAT I'VE BEEN ADVISED IS THAT THE THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT IN THAT AREA HAVE ALSO EXPRESSED A LACK OF INTEREST.
THEY DO NOT WANT A COLD NIGHT SHELTER, IS WHAT THEY'VE TOLD SOME OF OUR STAFF.
THEY DON'T WANT. THEY DON'T WANT THAT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, A COLD NIGHT SHELTER.
THEY'VE THEY'VE MENTIONED THAT TO STAFF BEFORE.
OK, BUT THEY'RE FINE WITH ELDERLY AND VETERANS.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. NANCY? HEY, COUNCIL, I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO DECLARE CITY OWNED PARCELS LOCATED AT TWENTY ONE POINT SEVENTY ONE TWENTY ONE SEVENTY THREE TWENTY ONE EIGHTY ONE, TWENTY ONE POINT EIGHTY FIVE TWENTY ONE EIGHTY NINE AND TWENTY ONE POINT NINETY THREE NORTHVIEW STREET NORTHEAST SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SOLICIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ELDERLY AND VETERANS.
I CAN ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. YOU NONE ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER 12.
[12. Consideration of the Stormwater Utility tax exemption list revision, per Resolution 2020-35.]
MR. BILL BATON. CONSIDERATION OF STORMWATER UTILITY TAX EXEMPT, I'M SORRY, BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST SORRY ABOUT THAT CONSIDERATION.STORMWATER UTILITY TAX EXEMPTION LIST REVISION OR TWENTY THIRTY FIVE.
I MEAN, THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND TIMES FIVE YEARS, THAT WAS ROUGHLY $190000.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SAID, OH, THIS IS GREAT, YOU'RE TAXING EVERYBODY ELSE RIDICULOUSLY FOR THEIR STORMWATER AND THEY'RE PAYING THROUGH THE NOSE FOR IT.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR TAX BILL, WHAT'S YOUR ONE OF YOUR HIGHEST NON AD VALOREM TAX OR YOUR HIGHEST NON VALOREM TAX? WELL, UP UNTIL THE ROAD BOND, THAT WAS IT.
SO BUT NOW IT'S NO LONGER ON YOUR ADD ON YOUR NON AD VALOREM.
NOW IT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR WATER BILL, BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME AMOUNT.
SO I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WEREN'T PAYING FOR IT BECAUSE THEY DEFINITELY DIDN'T RAIN ON THEIR HOUSE.
THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T RAIN.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE THE RESOURCES, RIGHT? BUT WHAT I FIND PROBLEM WITH THIS WAS EVERY YEAR I WOULD BRING UP THE SAME STATEMENT EVERY YEAR THAT THESE WERE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR A SERVICE THEY WERE RECEIVING FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
GRANTED, THERE WAS SOME IN THERE THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT SHOULD NOT BE TAXED WHEN THEY MADE A BLANKET STATEMENT.
THESE WERE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE REAPING THE BENEFITS OFF THE TAXPAYERS BACK BECAUSE THE TAXPAYERS WE HAD TO PAY THAT WE HAD TO PAY THAT PORTION UNDER OUR SPECIAL UNDER THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FEES.
IT WASN'T JUST WRITTEN OFF FOR THEM.
THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE PAYING HAD TO PAY THAT PORTION.
IT HAD TO BE ADDED BACK INTO THEIR TAXING PROCESS, INTO THE BILLING PROCESS.
SO IT WASN'T. THEY JUST GOT IT FREE.
WE HAD TO PAY FOR THEM ON TOP OF OUR OWN.
SO. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE WAS NOW SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND THEN WE SAW THE NEW LIST AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, SINCE I WAS PUSHING FOR THIS FOR FIVE YEARS NOW, CAN I GET A FINDER'S FEE? YOU KNOW, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT, SIR.
THANK YOU. WHAT ELSE? THAT BE MAYOR IN A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED TAX EXEMPT LIST PER RESOLUTION 20 20 DASH 30 FIVE FOR THE INSTITUTIONAL TAX PARCEL ACCOUNTS ACCOUNT.
SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR.
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I UNANIMOUSLY.[13. Consideration of utilizing Police Impact Fees to purchase a police outreach vehicle ($60,000).]
GO BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.CONSIDER HIS CONSIDERATION OF UTILIZING POLICE IMPACT FEES TO PURCHASE POLICE VEHICLES FOR SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO.
OK. FOR MY QUESTION IS, WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLE ARE WE GOING TO SPEND BE SPENDING FOR $60000 RIGHT NOW, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY? COULDN'T WE GET A NEW PATROL CAR FOR THAT SAME AMOUNT OR LEASE? LEASE ONE BECAUSE I'D BE PERSONALLY, I'D MUCH RATHER SEE MY PATROL OFFICERS WITH THE NEW VEHICLE INSTEAD OF THE.
I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH VEHICLES IN THE POOL THAT THAT WOULD THAT PERSON COULD DRIVE AROUND IN WITH THE VEHICLES FROM THE POOL.
$60000, I THINK THAT COULD GO TOWARDS A PATROL CAR PERSONALLY.
I'D MUCH RATHER SEE IT GO INTO IN PROTECTION AND DEFENSE AND SERVICING.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER, MADAM SHERMAN? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL START AND THEN IF YOU NEED THE CHIEF TO COME UP, YOU CERTAINLY CAN. THIS IS THE USE OF IMPACT FEES TO PURCHASE AND OUTFIT A RATHER LARGE VEHICLE SORT OF A VAN, BUT IT'S GOING TO ESSENTIALLY BE A POLICE OUTREACH VEHICLE THAT WILL HAVE THE EQUIPMENT IN IT TO SERVE ICE CREAM.
SO WHEN THEY GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OUTREACH TO KID, THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT THEY USE.
SO IT'S $60000 BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL OUTFITTING THAT GOES ALONG WITH ON TOP OF BUYING THE VEHICLE, THE ACTUAL CREATION OF THE ICE CREAM TRUCK AS IT WERE.
SO THIS IS A WE'RE KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IT.
THE IDEA BECAUSE THIS FITS WELL WITH A LOT OF OUR OUR RECENT INITIATIVES TOWARD INCREASING OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THE. A COP'S HIRING GRANT PROGRAM THAT WE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, PART OF THAT WAS ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH INITIATIVES WAS ADDITIONAL OFFICERS THAT WE'RE HIRING.
AND SO THIS FITS WELL WITH THAT PROGRAM.
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN CHIEF IS HERE AS WELL, IF YOU NEED TO.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON THANK YOU, MAYOR.
YEAH, BECAUSE I ASKED THIS QUESTION, I ASKED THIS QUESTION IN PRIVATE BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING I WAS SCRATCHING MY HEAD ON TO.
SO BUT I'LL ASK IT SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN HEAR, LIKE IN REGARDS TO THE USE OF POLICE IMPACT FEES, WAS THIS THE BEST WE'VE SEEN LIKE BEST COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM OR ITEM THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY PURCHASED BECAUSE I KNOW, YEAH, COMMUNITY WISE.
YEP, THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M AT SO.
GOOD EVENING, NELSON, WHITE POLICE CHIEF.
SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF WHAT ACTUALLY QUALIFIES ANYTIME WE WANT TO EXPEND MONEY FROM OUR IMPACT FEES.
THAT SCHEDULE IS VERY RIGOROUS AND I WISH HE WAS MORE BROADLY USED, BUT WE HAVE TO CONSULT WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY ANYTIME WE WANT TO EXPEND THAT FUND.
AND OFTENTIMES IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE.
IT HAS. IT'S GOT TO BE TIED SPECIFICALLY TO GROWTH.
WE'VE GONE TO THAT WELL TO MR. MADDEN'S COMMENT FOR WHEN WE GREW OUR STAFF THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, IT GAVE US THE ABILITY TO BUY FOUR NEW CARS.
WITH IMPACT FEES, I WISH I COULD SAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THAT WELL AND BUY THE CARS THAT WE'RE STILL IN DEFICIT, BUT IT'S NOT A QUALIFIER BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO BE TIED TO GROWTH.
THIS OPPORTUNITY IS TIED TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH ON A PROGRAM THAT WE ARE GROWING IN COMMUNITY POLICING.
THE SIX DOJ POSITIONS THAT WE WERE AWARDED THROUGH THE GRANT IS ACTUAL GROWTH AND THUS THIS VEHICLE IS A QUALIFIED.
NOW THE REASON FOR THIS PARTICULAR USAGE OF THIS CAR IS WE DID OUR RESEARCH AND BASED ON THOSE THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO THAT HAVE GONE IN THIS DIRECTION, TELL US THAT OUT OF ALL THE VEHICLES THAT WE CAN GET AND WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, OTHER OTHER THINGS, WE'VE SEEN FOOD TRUCKS, RIGHT? WE'VE SEEN ICE CREAM TRUCKS OR ICE CREAM TRUCK IS LEADING THE WAY IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING KIDS, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT.
ULTIMATELY, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUTREACH, YOUTH OUTREACH IN THIS COMMUNITY IS WE WANT TO FIRST CAPTURE THE AUDIENCE, SERVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY THEY WANT TO ENGAGE WITH AND THEN HAVE DIALOG.
AND I THINK THAT THAT RINGS TRUE TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE ALL SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER. GOOD EVENING, CHIEF.
I APPLAUD YOU FOR DOING THIS BECAUSE I COULD TAKE YOU BACK.
WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, COMMUNITY OUTREACH WAS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT IS NOW. AM I RIGHT? THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT WAS COMMUNITY OUTREACH BACK THEN? EXACTLY? IT WASN'T.
IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT COMMUNITY POLICING
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ACTUALLY HELPED FIGHT CRIME.MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR US, IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO PREVENT CRIME THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS, RIGHT? AND ALSO COLLECTS A LOT OF INTELLIGENCE BECAUSE THE LITTLE KIDS MIGHT SAY SOMETHING ADULT MIGHT NOT SAY THAT COULD SOLVE A CASE.
AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND I KNOW YOU EXPERIENCED THAT.
I HAVE TO. SO YOU HAVE 60000 IS A LOT, BUT WE CAN'T MEASURE THE IMPACT THAT VEHICLE COULD BRING TO THE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY FIGHTING CRIME.
THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU, CHIEF.
AND IT'S A SPECIAL NICHE, RIGHT, OUGHT TO BE THOSE QUALIFIERS ARE FOR GROWTH, AS YOU CONTINUALLY MENTION.
YES, SIR. AND THE ANOMALY RIGHT NOW IS VEHICLE PURCHASES.
THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS WHEN IT COMES TO THE COST OF VEHICLES.
THAT IS AN ESTIMATE THAT WE FACTORED IN A HIGH COST.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ULTIMATE COST IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE RIGHT NOW. AND GOOD LUCK WITH CARS RIGHT NOW.
WE WON'T EVEN GIVE US A PRICE.
I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN FELIX HAD A COMMENT CHIEF, NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID, WELL, THE THE COLLABORATION WITH POLICE AND COMMUNITY, THE THE THE, YOU KNOW, THE TRUST.
AND THAT'S WHEN TRUE POLICING TAKE PLACE, WHEN WHEN YOUR COMMUNITY TRUSTS YOU AND VICE VERSA, THERE'S THAT RELATIONSHIP.
AND I'M GLAD YOU CAME FORWARD AND EXPLAINED BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEADS AND WHY WE INVESTED.
I MEAN, AS COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER SAID THIS, YOU CANNOT MEASURE THAT THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT. SO I'M ALL FOR IT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE THAT. SO YOU'RE THE OUTREACHES, THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT'S WHY I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPROPRIATION OF POLICE IMPACT FEES FROM THE THREE TO NINE 05 NEXUS ON THE NEXT BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A POLICE OUTREACH VEHICLE THAT CAN.
AT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR, I SAYS UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON ITEM 14.
[14. Consideration of a salary increase (11%) for the Chief Building Official.]
I PULLED THIS ITEM, AND OF COURSE, YOU GUYS KNOW I PULLED IT.I BELIEVE VALENTINO MAY RATE A RACE 11 PERCENT INCREASE, BUT IT IT SHOULD BE FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUND. SO I STILL STAND BY THAT.
I NEED A MOTION. WELL, LET ME ASK ASK THE CITY MANAGER, WHY CAN'T IT BE FROM THE BUILDING? YEAH.
I MEAN, IF HE WASN'T SUPERVISING CODE, YEAH, YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD.
BUT NOW THAT HE HAS A GENERAL FUND UNDERNEATH HIM, THE GENERAL FUND HAS TO PAY FOR HIM TO SUPERVISE HIM, SUPERVISE FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY HE HAS TO BE PAID FOR BOTH BUILDING AND FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
OK. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
OK, SO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD, SIR, ON THIS SIDE OF.
THE TEAM. THERE HAVE BEEN ONE SPEAKER CAR WITH.
IT COULD I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME FORWARD, SIR.
OKAY. PLEASE STEP FORWARD, SIR.
THANK YOU. AND FORGIVE MY INTERRUPTION.
THEN AN INTERRUPTION, SIR, I'M GLAD THAT WELL TO INTERJECT THAT WE YEAH, WE HAD A MIX UP HERE, SIR, SO. AH, YES, I.
I HAVE CONCERNS AGAIN ABOUT THE.
THE INFORMATION, THE METRICS USED WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROPOSAL HERE.
AS HAS HAPPENED RECENTLY, I FEEL THE.
USES FOR THE THINGS USED FOR COMPARISON WITH THIS REQUEST ARE NOT APPROPRIATELY COMPARABLE. WE USED PORT ST.
LUCIE AGAIN AS A QUOTE CITY OF COMPARABLE SIZE AND HISTORY.
AND THEIR RECENT IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW MASTER PLAN TO COMPARE WITH THE SALARY AND
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INCREASE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED.PORT ST. LUCIE IS ALMOST 20 PERCENT LARGER BY SQUARE MILEAGE AND 127 PERCENT LARGER IN POPULATION. I.
I DO NOT FEEL THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE COMPARISON.
AND I DO AGREE WITH MANY OF THE SENTIMENTS SHARED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THE.
MESSY NATURE OF THESE PROPOSALS ALL TOGETHER IN THIS WAY.
SHIFTING PEOPLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SHIFTING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF ONE OF THE LEADERS AND GIVING THEM AN 11 PERCENT PAY INCREASE ALL IN THE SAME NIGHT, IT DOES FEEL A BIT LIKE WE ARE BEGGING FOR TROUBLE.
THERE IS, I'M SURE, OBVIOUSLY A PERFECTLY FINE WAY TO DO IT, BUT THIS SEEMS. I DON'T MEAN THIS WORD AS STRONGLY AS IT COULD BE MEANT, BUT IT SEEMS A BIT RECKLESS AS WELL AS, OF COURSE, THE FIRST THING I MENTIONED THE INAPPROPRIATE NATURE OF THESE COMPARISON FIGURES.
SO I WOULD SIMPLY URGE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS A LITTLE MORE CAREFULLY, PERHAPS OVER A SLIGHTLY LONGER AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND MAYBE PERHAPS ONE OR TWO THINGS AT A TIME BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PROCESS AS A WHOLE.
ANY OTHER SPEECH? SPEAKER CARD? HEY, COUNCIL, I'VE ALREADY SHARED MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.
A MOTION. A MOTION APPROVED AN 11 PERCENT SALARY INCREASE FOR THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL TO BE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND AND UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY TWO. SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, JUST TO VALENTINO.
VOTING NAY. AND ALL OF THIS AND MORE THAN QUALIFIED, SIR, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TAKE ANYTHING PERSONAL BY MY VOTE BECAUSE I SUPPORT ALL OUR EMPLOYEES.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T AGREE SHOULD OCCUR.
AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO ALL IN FAVOR BEFORE YOU BEFORE YOU CALL IT.
I LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T SIT HERE AND LET THE SPEAKER COMMENT GO ON REBUT. NOTHING IN THE CITY IS DONE RECKLESSLY.
OUR CITY OFFICIALS ARE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE, EDUCATED AND SMART.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS JOB A LONG TIME.
AND WE DON'T WE DON'T OPERATE.
AND I WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN UNDER MY WATCH SITTING IN THIS ON THIS DYAS TO OPERATE CARELESSLY AND AND WASTE OUR TAX DOLLARS, WASTE OUR RESIDENTS TAX DOLLARS.
OUR CITY MANAGER IS A PROFESSIONAL WOMAN AND SHE DOES HER JOB.
VERY SHE'S VERY WELL QUALIFIED, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL IS VERY WELL QUALIFIED.
WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I HAVE MET WITH HIM ON NUMEROUS OCCASION.
UM, I DON'T CARE WHAT FUNDING THAT COMES FROM.
HE DESERVED THE WAY BECAUSE HE'S DOING THE WORK.
AND HE'S DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
AND YES, THE MAJORITY OF HIS SALARY IS COMING FROM THE BUILDING FUND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE'S THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, HE'S TAKING ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT'S OUTSIDE HIS NORMAL SCOPE OF WORK.
HE'S TAKEN ON A CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO HE SHOULD GET PAID FOR DOING THAT AND THAT MONEY COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE INCREASE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A NEW BUILDING DIRECTOR.
BECAUSE OTHER CITIES LIKE PORT ST.
LUCIE DEFINITELY PAID EIGHT DIRECTORS VERY WELL, AND WE'RE IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER CITIES. WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL HERE, A LEADER AND HE HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT.
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AND I I DON'T KNOW.THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY'VE TAKEN ON.
OF THIS OUTSTANDING AND IT SHOWS IN THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY COMMENT.
WE DON'T. WE CARE ABOUT OUR TAX DOLLARS AND PALM BAY, AND WE JUST DON'T THROW THEM AROUND CARELESSLY, RECKLESSLY.
THERE. YOU ANYONE ELSE WAS TO MAKE A COMMENT.
OK, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR.
[16. Consideration of a budget amendment for payment of property taxes for 648 Osmosis Drive SE and 2741 Rhapsody Street NE.]
NATHAN WHITE, 30 TO ONE, SEE THE WHITE I JUST WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING, SIR. RETIREMENT, WE SHOULD SAY WE SHOULD FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD.I THINK THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE MIX UP.
THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IF WE HAVE IT FOR EACH ITEM WE WANT, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN. SURE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
EVERY ANSWER. NATHAN WHITE, 13, ON ONE SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT.
THE CITY. TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT.
HAVE HAD STRUGGLE TIMES OF STRUGGLE IN THE RECENT PAST WITH MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS HANDLED START TO FINISH, SO TO SPEAK, AND SOME OF THESE.
TAXES AND SUCH THAT HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED, SO TO SPEAK.
AT TIMES, I'M ALSO GLAD TO SEE.
IN THE AGENDA IN ANY AGENDA OF THE HOMES FOR WARRIORS PROJECT, I'VE SPOKEN MANY OF THE RECIPIENTS OF THE HOMES FOR WARRIORS PROJECT, I SHOULD SAY THE ONES THAT ARE LEFT.
UM. AND MY LAST CONVERSATION THAT WAS ONLY FOUR OUT OF SEVEN.
I'M. AND I CAN JUST SAY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AND I AM HOPEFUL BY SEEING IT LISTED THAT IT WILL COME UP MORE OFTEN.
I KNOW PARTICULARLY ONE OF THE ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS THAT I SPOKE WITH.
HMM. HAS BEEN STUCK IN LESS THAN 1000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.
WITH HER NOW FOUR CHILDREN, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE THE WAY THE SITUATION WORKED OUT.
THEY PAY SOME THEY OWE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE ON IT THAN IT IS WORTH.
SO IF THEY WANTED TO LEAVE BEFORE THEIR TIME PERIOD, THEY WOULD WELL AND TRULY NOT BE ABLE TO IN ANY.
CIRCUMSTANCE OUTSIDE OF LOTTERY WINNINGS, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, AND I HOPE IT DRAWS CONTINUED ATTENTION TOWARDS THE HOMES FOR WARRIORS PROGRAM AND THE RECIPIENTS.
I DON'T BELIEVE HAVE RECEIVED ENOUGH ATTENTION IN GENERAL.
THANK YOU. YOU NEED ADDITIONAL SPEAKER.
ROBERT 580, SPRAGUE OCEAN SPRAY STREET.
EXCUSE ME. QUESTION, HOW DID WE DETERMINE WHICH PROPERTIES YOU HAD TO PAY TAX ON, WHICH YOU DON'T BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND.
YOU KNOW, SOME YEARS HE DID HAVE TO PAY TAX, SOME YOU DIDN'T.
BUT THE SALE OF THIS, WHEN I READ THE EXPLANATION, I SAW THAT IT WAS THE PROPERTY ALREADY BEEN SOLD BEFORE THE TAXES CAME OUT.
SO THAT MADE IT INTO THE CITY OWNED IT AT THAT TIME FRAME.
WHEN WE OWN SOMETHING, YOU'VE GOT TO PAY TAXES ON IT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THE CITY'S PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONFLICT WITH BECAUSE NORMALLY CITY PROPERTY IS NOT TAXED.
AND I COULD ONLY I COULDN'T SEE WHERE I COULDN'T FIND ANY OTHER CASES OF THAT IN THIS, IN THIS INSTANCE.
BUT SINCE IT DID SELL AND IT WAS PURCHASED OUT OF TAX FROM SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WAS PAYING THE TAX PROPERTY TAX ON IT SO THAT WE HAD TO PAY THE THREE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND
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FIFTY DOLLARS FOR THE ONE HOME AND THE OTHER ONE WAS BACK TAXES.AND SO THE ONE THAT WE HAD THE BACK TAXES ON THAT WAS HOME HAD TO BE FORECLOSED ON.
SO IT WAS WHEN YOU'RE THE BEST WAY, I CAN SAY THIS ONE IS JUST REMEMBER, NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
IT HAD A GRAND IDEA OF WHAT WE WANTED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.
AND WHEN YOU TRY TO HELP SOMEBODY, IT'S LIKE ON OTHER THINGS, SOMETIMES A PERSON REALLY DOESN'T BE IS NOT APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU TRY TO DO.
AND SO. BEST INTENTION DOESN'T ALWAYS GIVE THE BEST OUTCOME, AND THAT'S A CASE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS INSTANCE.
RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE HAVING TO PAY THE PRICE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS MADAME SHERMAN.
YOU WANT TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, BUT THIS IS A HOMES FOR WARRIOR HOME, CORRECT? AND AND YOU KNOW, PART OF MY CONCERN IS SERVICE CONNECTED DISABLED VETERANS THAT ARE RATED AT 100 PERCENT.
THEY DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES.
AND AND SO I WAS I WAS CURIOUS WHEN WHEN HE BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE IF YOUR SERVICE CONNECTED, I THOUGHT TO QUALIFY FOR THE HOMES FOR WARRIOR PROGRAM AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU HAD TO BE 100 PERCENT SERVICE CONNECTED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE CRITERIA.
I DON'T KNOW. THERE WAS A LOT OF REPORTING THAT IMPROPER BEHAVIORS, I GUESS, DURING THIS PROCESS. BUT I DO KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT SERVICE CONNECTED, YOU DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES.
AND SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WHY IF THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT OWNED THE HOME WASN'T SUPPOSED TO PAY TAXES, HOW DOES THAT? I KNOW THE CITY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY TAXES.
SO THAT WAS THAT WAS AN AREA OF CONCERN FOR ME AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
MR. CHIEF. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PERSON WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT I DO KNOW AS FAR AS THE REASON FOR TEXAS, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY OWN IT, IS BECAUSE AT THE TIME IT WASN'T FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES.
THERE MAY BE, AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS MR. EDWARDS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH HOUSING IS THAT THERE ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING GRANTS AND THAT ARE GETTING THESE ARE FUNDING THAT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES, BUT IT'S ABOUT GETTING THEM TO FILL OUT THE PROPER FORMS. AND I KNOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, STAFF BEFORE I WOULD ADVISE THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD DO THIS AND THEN THEY WOULD BE TOLD AND THEN NOT NECESSARILY DO IT.
SO MR. EDWARDS, YOU KNOW, HAS PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, A WE TELL THEM.
BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HE'S WILLING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THERE TO ASSIST IF NECESSARY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER, AS FAR AS HOW TO GET THE FORMS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME.
AND I THINK WE'RE STILL MAYBE LOOKING AT WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OUT PROPERTY TAXES, BUT PROBABLY WERE EXEMPT, BUT THEY HAD TO APPLY FOR THE EXEMPTION.
THANK YOU, MA'AM, THAT THAT YOU DO HAVE TO GO TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND APPLY.
SO THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.
I NEED A MOTION, GENTLEMEN MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT OF FOUR THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FIVE DOLLARS AND THIRTY SIX CENTS FROM GENERAL FUND DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.
FOR PAYMENT OF PROPERTY TAX ON SIX, FOUR EIGHT OSMOSIS DRIVE AND TWENTY SEVEN POINT FORTY ONE RAPID CITY STREET, NORTHEAST GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I'M GOING TO SECOND IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
I'VE GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
WE FELL CITY OF PALM BAY FELL WITH THIS HOMELESS WARRIOR PROJECT.
PRIOR TO THIS COUNCIL COMING ON ON THE DIAS.
WE SCREWED UP. NOW WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.
AND, MAYOR, YOU'RE RIGHT, IF YOU'RE 100 PERCENT DISABLED BY THE VA, YOU DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAX.
THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO LET OUR VETERANS DOWN.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO RAN THIS PROGRAM HAD GOOD INTENTIONS.
THEY STARTED OFF WITH GOOD INTENTION, BUT IT GOT IT WENT SOUTH.
MR. BATTEN, YOU'RE 100 PERCENT RIGHT.
I AGREE WITH YOU, I AGREE WITH YOU.
EVERY LAST WORD YOU SAID, BUT I'M A LITTLE DISTURBED.
THAT. A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENED UNDER THIS PROGRAM AND NOW.
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I'M SITTING ON HIS THIGHS AND I GOT TO VOTE FOR US TO PAY THESE TAXES.AND I KIND OF PISSED OFF FOR THAT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR TAX DOLLARS, MY TAX DOLLARS. UM, AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
THIS SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED, AND TO ME, THE VETERANS WERE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
YEAH, SOME VETERANS PROBABLY GOT THE PROPERTY AND THEY DIDN'T DO THE RIGHT THING.
THAT'S ON THEM. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
AND I'M TALKING. BECAUSE I LOVE VETERANS.
AS LONG AS I'M SITTING HERE, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND WE NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUS AND WE NEED TO HONOR OUR VETERANS.
BUT WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM IN ANY PROGRAM WE GET INVOLVED IN THE FUTURE.
AND I DON'T LIKE THIS HOME FOOD WARRIORS PROGRAM BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS ABUSED AND MISUSED. I JUST GOT TO SPEAK OUT ON IT.
IT'S WRONG. SO NOW WE GOT TO PAY THE TAXES ON IT.
THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ALL IN FAVOR, I SAYS UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON I MAKE A
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MOTION APPROVED STEPHEN HAYES TO THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.AT A MOTION. SECOND AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX A MOTION BOARD, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON COUNCILMAN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER TWO MAKE A MOTION APPOINT JANINE ALBEN TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD, REPRESENTING THE ADULT MEMBER 30 YEARS AND OLDER POSITION.
SECOND MOTION MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE NEW BUSINESS.
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ADAM JONES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WILL BE HOSTING ITS LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS IN TALLAHASSEE FROM FEBRUARY 8TH AND 9TH OF 2020 TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS INTERESTED IN ATTENDING JUST NEED TO ANNOUNCE IT AT TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL ATTEND.
SO I WILL TEND TO GET ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
YES, MA'AM. I PLAN TO ATTEND AS WELL.
NEW BUSINESS, MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE OWED FOLLOW UP TO A COUNCIL REGARDING.
WE HAD A PRESENTATION AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING FROM MR. VERNON GINZLER AND IT WAS IN REGARD TO A PROPERTY HE OWNS AT EIGHTY FIVE DEERFIELD STREET. AND HE WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP ON THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, IT HAS A DIRT ROAD IN FRONT OF IT.
WHOLE BURAK ARE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IS GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR FINDINGS REGARDING THIS SITUATION AND OTHER SIMILAR PROPERTIES THAT WE FOUND THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT NEED TO.
WE NEED TO HAVE A PATH FORWARD TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE FOLKS.
THE BARAK PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE CASE FOR ELEVEN EIGHTY FIVE DEERFIELD ROAD, SOUTHWEST IN PALM BAY.
SO THIS GENTLEMAN, MR. DANTZLER, CAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, AND HE ALREADY APPROACHED THE ADVISORY BOARD TO EXPRESS HIS CONCERN THAT HE'S PLANNING TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE DIRT ROAD, ACCORDING TO CITY ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL FOR ANYONE TO PAY TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
THIS REQUIREMENT WAS EXPLAINED TO PREVIOUS SITUATIONS LIKE THAT TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BUILD THEIR HOUSES ON A DIRT ROAD.
WHEN HE BROUGHT UP HIS CASE, THE COUNCIL AND THE ADVISORY BOARD WERE SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS TOWARDS THEIR CASE.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE RESEARCHED HOW MANY OTHER ROADS WE HAVE LIKE THAT.
SO WHEN I HAVE ATTACHED A SPREADSHEET.
SO IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WE ARE ON THREE POINT TWO MILES OF DIRT ROADS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY, WHICH ARE OPEN.
AND THERE ARE HOUSES EITHER BUILT ON IT OR SOME OF THEM ARE.
SOME OF THEM ALSO HAVE VACANT LOTS.
SO WHATEVER EXCEPTIONS WE MAKE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WILL APPLY TO THOSE TWO BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT MOVING FORWARD.
SO TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION AND CERTAIN SITUATIONS IN IN THE PALM BAY, WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE YOU FOUR OPTIONS.
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THE FIRST OPTION, OBVIOUSLY, WHICH STATES THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER PAVES THE ROAD, WHICH IS NOT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE SOLE REASON WE ARE HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOT THE OPTION ALLOWED. BUT SECOND ONE IS THE ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BUILD A HOUSE AND CONNECT TO A DIRT ROAD.ONCE WE DO THAT, IT WILL APPLY TO THE REST OF THE DIRT ROADS ALSO IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THIS OPTION WILL CREATE A DEVELOPMENT AROUND DIRT ROAD, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE VERY CONTROLLED, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT IT TO THIS 3.2 MILES SO WE HAVE A CONTROL OVER IT. OTHERWISE, IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW IT, SOMEBODY CAN COME AND CLEAR AN OPEN RIGHT AWAY AND START BUILDING HOUSES ON IT.
SO THAT IS THE MAIN PURPOSE THAT WE WANT TO LIMIT ANY CONCESSION TO EXISTING OPEN DIRT ROADS ONLY. THE THIRD OPTION WE HAVE IS THE CITY CAN PAVE THESE ROADS AND ASSESS THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THIS ASSESSMENT WHERE WE REQUIRED 50 PERCENT OR MORE.
BE PROPERTY OWNERS TO AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS HARD TO GET GIVEN THE CONDITIONS OF THE ROAD AND THE CONDITIONS OF THE HOUSES.
FOURTH OPTION IS THIS THESE THREE POINT TWO MILES OF ROADS RIGHT NOW ARE DIRT AND BEING MAINTAINED BY THE CITY.
WE SHOULD ADD THEM TO THE ROAD ONE PAVING PROGRAM SO THAT WE AVOID CERTAIN SITUATIONS IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN FUTURE.
THAT WOULD BE ADDED IF YOU APPROVE THAT OPTION, THAT WOULD BE ADDED AT THE END OF THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM, THE END OF THE EIGHT YEAR PROGRAM.
IF WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE, IF NOT BELOW, TO ADDRESS IT WITH GENERAL FUNDS.
SO. I GOT I GOT THOSE FOUR OPTIONS.
OK, YOU ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES. MARY JOHNSON PERTAINING TO ITEM FOUR, BECAUSE EVEN RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LEFT FOR A DIRT ROAD.
THREE POINT TWO. HOW MUCH ARE YOU ESTIMATING IT WOULD COST? OUR ROUGH ESTIMATE IS AROUND 60 TO 80 THOUSAND DOLLARS A MILE.
SO TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT TWO POINT TWO AND A $250000, OK, SO NOT MUCH.
ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, COMPARED TO SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE ROLLS ARE FULL, YOU KNOW, FULL DEATH RECLAMATION.
YES. SO. WE POINT TO MALAYSIA.
SO, OK, THAT'S WHY I WANTED A CLARIFICATION ON THAT, BECAUSE WE HAD A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AND WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, WAITING ON THE RENDERINGS FOR LIKE PHASE FIVE AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING.
I'M STILL UP IN THE AIR. YES, YOU SAY YES.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN THAT JOHNSON ROAD, BOARD SAID ALL ROADS, RIGHT? SO WE WE MISSED THE BOAT ON THIS, TOO.
WE DIDN'T DESIGNATE ALL ROADS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WOULD CERTAINLY BE ELIGIBLE, BUT I THINK EVEN AT THE TIME PRIOR TO THE PRICE INCREASES, WE HAD REASON TO SUSPECT BELIEVE THAT THE AMOUNT WOULD BE INSUFFICIENT TO REPAVE ALL ROADS.
BUT WE DID TRY TO PLAN FOR AS MANY AS POSSIBLE USING DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT WITH THE BELIEF THAT CERTAINLY IF WE GOT THE MAIN ROADS THAT EVERYBODY USES, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T MANAGE TO GET YOUR PARTICULAR ROAD, THAT EVERYONE WILL GET SOME BENEFIT FROM IT.
IT THE AMOUNT, EVEN PRIOR TO THE PRICE INCREASES, WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TO LITERALLY PAVE EVERY ROAD.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF FUNDING AVAILABLE.
I'M JUST SAYING AS A CITIZEN, I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS ALL ROADS, EXCLUDING THE ROADS IN THE COMPOUND.
THAT WAS THE PERCEPTION OUT THERE TO ME ANYWAY, WHETHER WHETHER THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THESE THREE POINT FOUR MILES.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU AS A TAXPAYER AND A CITIZEN OF THIS CITY FOR OVER 33 YEARS, WHEN THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM CAME ABOUT ENCOURAGING US TO VOTE FOR IT, IT INCLUDED ALL ROADS.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IN MY EYES, IT WAS THE COMPOUND.
SO I MIGHT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, I I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT CORRECTLY.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW A LOT OF MY FELLOW CITIZENS THAT I ENGAGE WITH BELIEVE THAT.
SO I'LL GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THAT.
I MEAN. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I HAVE TWO THOUGHTS.
I LIKE OPTION NUMBER FOUR, BUT.
UM. MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER CAN ANSWER THAT, I DON'T KNOW YOU COULD ANSWER THIS, BUT WE HAVE A. A ROAD FUND.
DON'T WE? WE SET ASIDE MONEY FOR ROADS.
YES, ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
WHY CAN'T WE USE SOME OF THAT TO PAY THIS? THREE POINT TWO.
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IS A. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THE PARAMETER TO USING THAT ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, BECAUSE IF WE WAIT TO THE END OF THIS OLD ROAD PROGRAM.THE PAVE THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW, IF I'M CORRECT, SIR.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
SO WHY PUT OFF SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO NOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY MORE LATER? SO. IN MY OTHER QUESTION IS IF WE COULD GET INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY.
ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SINCE THEY PASSED AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WHY CAN'T WE USE, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO USE THAT TO PAY THIS THREE POINT TWO MILES? OF DIRT ROAD, BECAUSE I WANT EVERY ROAD IN PALM BAY NOT TO BE DIRT LIKE A PEA.
I MEAN, THESE RESIDENTS PAY FOR THAT.
THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT GO ROAD FUND.
EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT A DIRT ROAD, SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO PAY THEIR ROAD.
WE WILL BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FUND RIGHT NOW IS NOT ALLOCATED OR APPROVED FOR ANYTHING, SO WE CAN'T COUNT ON IT.
THIS IS THE FUND I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S THE ONLY FUNDS FUNDING SOURCE I CAN LOOK AT.
AND MARY, IF I MAY, I WAS JUST TALKING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE THESE ROADS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DIRT ROADS AND HAVE NEVER BEEN PAVED AS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY QUALIFY FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.
THE DISTRICT THAT THEY'RE LOCATED, SO THAT'S ANOTHER, EXCUSE ME, POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE WE CAN LOOK AT TO MAYBE MEET THAT NEED IF YOU WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM.
WHEN A COMMENT OR JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT, JUST LOOKING AT THAT, WE HAVE AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO SPEAK IN A SECOND, BUT LOOKING THAT WE HAVE POSSIBLE OPTIONS.
YOU KNOW, ALLOW HIM TO BUILD THE DRIVEWAY, I'M I'M LOOKING AT TWO LIKE FOR NOW, LET'S GET HIM THE DRIVEWAY.
BUT THEN LET'S, AS A CITY, SORT OUT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO USE THE ROAD BOND PAVING OR WE'RE GOING TO USE THE IMPACT FEES OR WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
BUT LET'S GET THE GENTLEMAN HIS DRIVEWAY.
I'M SORRY, SIR, BUT WE WILL GET AND THEN WE ASK THE CITY FIGURED OUT, YOU'RE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES. ALL RIGHT. OK, THANK YOU.
I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH DEPUTY MAYOR.
THERE'S WE DON'T HAVE THE SOLE REASON TO AND INFRINGING INTO PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY, RIGHT? I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO BUILD.
AND CERTAINLY PUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY, I CITY PAVED THE ROAD A NUMBER FOUR, SO A LOT OF THEM TO BUILD, NOT WAITING FOR US TO PAVE THE ROAD, BUT A LOT OF THEM THEN WHEN WHEN WE GET TO IT.
YOU KNOW, TO THAT PHASE, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PAVE THE ROAD.
I COME FROM YOUR COUNCILMAN FELIX, I STILL THINK WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES, BUT THIS IS GOOD. LET ME HAVE THE PUBLIC.
VERNON DANTZLER. FOLLOWED BY VERY FLORID.
SO I GUESS I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY, JUST, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR PUTTING THE EFFORT INTO THIS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD MY HOUSE, HOPEFULLY VERY SOON.
THIS IS GOOD. YOU KNOW, JUST I THINK, TO REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, WE ARE PAYING THE ROAD ASSESSMENT FEES AND SO IT WOULD BE GOOD IF IT COULD GET DOWN.
THERE IS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE REVIEW BOARD THAT JUST LIKE YOU THOUGHT THAT THOSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED BUT WERE MISSED, EVEN THE PAVED SECTIONS OF THAT ROAD WAS MISSED. SO.
IF WE CAN BUILD AND YOU GUYS WANT TO PAVE IT AT SOME POINT.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY TAKING THE TIME AND MAKING SURE THIS GOT ADDRESSED, THOUGH, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HELP THE OTHER PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE APPARENTLY ANOTHER CITIZEN IS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM.
VERY FLAWED, FOLLOWED BY MR. BILL BENTON. BARRY FLORIN, I LIVE IN GRANT, SEVENTY ONE POINT NINETY FIVE ORCHID TREE DRIVE, AND THIS IS RELATED TO 13 OH FIVE ELLIOT STREET.
IT'S ADJACENT TO THE A MS. PARK, WHATEVER THE HECK THEY CALL IT, AND THE TRAIL.
I'D SAY AROUND 2005, THE CITY PUT UP A BARRICADE THAT WAS AT THE END OF ELLIOT STREET THAT PREVENTED US FROM GETTING TO OUR PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.
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AND THEN I THINK IT WAS IN JUNE WE REQUESTED TO HAVE THAT BARRIER TAKEN DOWN SO WE COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.WE HAD A BUYER FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE BARRICADE GOT REMOVED.
THE END OF OCTOBER OR ELSE EARLY NOVEMBER.
AND BUT PREVIOUS TO THAT, THE BUYER BACKED OUT BECAUSE HE BASICALLY DENIED ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AS WE WERE.
SO WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR MONTHS TO TRY TO GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR NOW.
WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH JOAN, JUNGLER BROWN AND SOME OF THE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE HEADS OF THE ORGANIZATION, WHATEVER.
AND SHE CAME WITH AN IDEA THAT.
THE CITY DOWN AT THE END OF THE ELLIOTT STREET HAS A LIST STATION, AND SO THE CITY NEEDS ACCESS TO THE LIST STATION.
BUT IN WHEN THAT BARRICADE WAS UP, THEY WERE USING THE THE SIDEWALK FOR ACCESS.
THERE WAS A GATE AND THEY'D OPEN THE GATE, DRIVE DOWN THE SIDEWALK AND GO ACCESS THE LIFT STATION. WELL, SHE, YOU KNOW, SAID WHAT? THERE IS NO PARKING FOR THE PARK.
THERE'S A CANOE LAUNCH AND A LITTLE DOCK AND SOME OTHER THINGS DOWN THERE.
SO SHE SAID THAT WHAT THEY WHAT SHE THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA WAS TO PAVE THE ROAD AND THEN HAVE AN ADJACENT PARKING AREA FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO FISHING OR LAUNCH THEIR KAYAKS OR CANOES OR WHATEVER.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE CITY HAVING A REAL ROAD.
TO GET TO THE LIFT STATION, AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE US ACCESS TO OUR PROPERTY.
OK, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS.
AND THIS THIS SITUATION IS SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE THE ROAD ACCESS, AND LIKE MR. GINZLER. THESE FOLKS WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY FOR THE CONVERSATION CAME UP TO HAVING TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE ROAD.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY THESE IF YOU DECIDE TO DO WHAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE THREE POINT TWO MILES, THIS WOULD COVER THE ISSUE, I BELIEVE, FOR THESE FOLKS AS WELL.
BILL BATTEN. BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL OR COUPLE THAT.
ALL THEY WANTED TO DO IS COME AND LIVE IN PALM BAY.
THEY THOUGHT, OH, WE FOUND THE PERFECT PLACE.
AND FOR SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, ALL THEY'VE BEEN DOING IS HITTING WALL AFTER WALL AFTER WALL, AND ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS BUILD A HOME ON LAND THAT THEY ALREADY OWN.
LAW THAT JUST PASSED, THIS IS A CASE OF WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN'T USE THEIR LAND BECAUSE OF SOMETHING SO SIMPLE AS AN ORDINANCE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE CHANGE OUR ORDINANCES THREE TIMES A WEEK, ALMOST.
I'M NOT QUITE THAT OFTEN, YOU GUYS, BUT PRETTY REGULARLY WE CHANGE OUR ORDINANCES.
THIS IN THIS CASE, IT WAS LAID OUT LONG BEFORE THE BUILDING WAS EVEN BUILT.
IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THAT THE BUILDER FAILED TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT THEY PROPOSED AND WHAT THEY TOLD THE CITY THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE INDIVIDUAL THAT NOW IS TRYING TO BUILD SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER THE COST. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST GO WITH THE SIMPLE FACTS, THEY LET THEM GET STARTED WHILE WE'RE DECIDING HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT PAYING FOR IT, WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM.
THEY COULD AT LEAST GET STARTED ON BUILDING A HOME SO THEY HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
RIGHT. AND THIS IS THE CASE WHERE LANDOWNER RIGHTS AND BY MY OPINION ARE BEING SQUELCHED BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS ANOTHER LAW SOMEPLACE.
THANK YOU. YOU, MR. CHIEF. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS? IT COUNCIL, I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO START DISCUSSING WHAT WHAT I BELIEVE.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A CONSENSUS WHERE YOU WERE DISCUSSING, BUT THERE DEFINITELY OPTION NUMBER FOR.
THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN HOW I LOOK AT IT.
BUT I AGREE HE SHOULD BE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT HE OWNS.
SO. SO MY ONLY QUESTION IN THE MOTION SHALL INCLUDE THE OTHER THREE POINT TWO THAT WISH
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TO. SO THAT WAY IT COVERS MR. FLOORING AS WELL OR.OK, THEN THAT'S THE CASE MOTION TO APPROVE ANY PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THESE THREE POINT TWO MILES OF DIRT ROADS TO HAVE ACCESS TO BUILD THE DRIVEWAY CONNECTING TO THEIR DIRT ROAD. WHILE STAFF WORKS WITH COUNCIL ON LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FUNDING OPTIONS REGARDING ROAD BOND PAVING, ROAD MAINTENANCE AND TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.
YES. AT A MOTION, MY DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON, SECOND, MY COUNCILMAN FELIX, I HAVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTION.
NUMBER TWO, THAT'S THE OPTION YOU'RE CHOOSING.
NUMBER TWO, BUT BUT WE ARE, WE'RE COMING BACK.
IT'LL COME BACK BEFORE US TO LOOK AT FUNDING OPTIONS FOR ALL FOR THE THREE POINT TWO ROWS. WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO USE ROAD MAINTENANCE, ROAD BOND OR OR IMPACT FEES.
OK, BUT. WELL, THE WORKS, THE DIRECTOR SAID THIS WAS GOING TO OPEN UP A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE TO BUILD ON THE DIRT ROADS OF THE DIRT ROADS.
WITHIN THE THREE POINT TWO, LIKE THE MR. FLORIN, HE'S IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT AREA.
BUT HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE THIS AREA AS THE PROPERTY OWNER ONLY WITHIN THIS 3.2 DIRT ROAD.
THEY CAN'T CREATE OTHER DIRT ROADS.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S I JUST WENT DOWN.
I UNDERSTAND. I'M GOOD. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, AS UNANIMOUSLY.
BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM THREE GENTLEMEN, I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE.
MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO THIS LAST ITEM ON THE OFFICIAL AGENDA HERE IS TO DISCUSS THE GENERAL FUND ON DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE AND IN LARGE PART, THIS DUE TO A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD PUBLICLY AND, YOU KNOW, AT STAFF LEVEL DISCUSSING WHERE OUR GENERAL FUND UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE IS AT.
THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE VISITING COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT HAVE ASKED US, SO LARRY, WHAT WOULD YOU ASK? OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR IS GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE HEALTH OF OUR GENERAL FUND AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME UNMET NEEDS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FUNDING FOR.
AND SO WE'LL TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE PHILOSOPHY ON THAT.
HARRY, WHAT, MA'AM, DID YOU SAY? WOULD YOUR HOUSE KEY? OH, THANK YOU.
I'M LARRY WOJCIECHOWSKI. I'M THE CITY'S FINANCE DIRECTOR.
AND TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER AT THE GENERAL FUND HEALTH CHECK.
IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION TO YOU TO SHOW WHERE WE BASICALLY STAND IN THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TONIGHT IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND COVER JUST PALM BAY PHILOSOPHY ON HOW WE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE A VERY SHORT EXPLANATION.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH REVENUE FUNDING SOURCES, EXPENDITURES, BITE BY DEPARTMENT AT A SUMMARY LEVEL. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DEBT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE GENERAL FUND PAYS IN DEBT, ALL THE UNALLOCATED FUNDS AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE INTERESTING PART.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING CALLED CHALLENGES THAT THE CITY IS RUNNING INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO IN THE FUTURE.
IN THE FINAL IS GOING TO BE THE FUNDING REQUESTS.
OK. THE CITY'S PHILOSOPHY BACK IN TWO THOUSAND TWENTY, WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING BUDGET, IT WAS DECIDED TO GO TO WHAT THEY CALL A ZERO BASED BUDGET.
YOU START WITH JUST YOUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS, PERIOD.
THE DIRECTORS HAD TO DEVELOP THEIR BUDGET AND PROVE.
EVERY LINE ITEM, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING, VERY LABOR INTENSIVE.
BUT IT WAS A WAY TO WEED OUT ALL THE EXCESS MONEY SITTING IN DIFFERENT POTS, SO WE DID THAT FOR NOW, FOR TWO YEARS NOW.
SO IT HAS REALLY WORKED VERY WELL.
A LOT OF COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE DIRECTORS THAT IT HAS GIVEN THEM A GOOD PHILOSOPHY ABOUT THEIR OWN BUDGETS, AND THEY NOW UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUDGETING MONEY. SO IT IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO CONTINUOUSLY BUDGET DOING ZERO BASED
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BUDGETING, ESPECIALLY IN GOVERNMENT.IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED TO DO THAT IN THE LONG TERM BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO LABOR INTENSIVE.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH GOING INTO THIS UPCOMING YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY START AT A LEVEL WHERE THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IS THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE BUDGET'S GOING TO BE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO START WITH.
AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN REQUEST TO THE CITY MANAGER ASKING ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, ADDITIONAL NEEDS.
THEN THEIR DEPARTMENTS AS THE.
CITY MANAGER IDENTIFIES CERTAIN ITEMS. YOU'LL GET YOUR NAME AND MOVE IT FORWARD FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL.
THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THIS YEAR.
THE. NEXT SLIDE AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE PRESENTATION THAT'S BACK THERE, OH, WE'RE SHOWING AS THE GENERAL FUND WE'RE AT $83 MILLION IS WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR GENERAL FUND.
FOR THE MAJORITY, THE MAJORITY OF OUR MONEY COMES IN FROM PROPERTY TAXES, AS YOU CAN SEE.
FORTY SIX PERCENT AND THEN THERE'S OTHER TAXES THAT ALSO COME IN.
THAT'S 19 PERCENT. SO WELL OVER 50 PERCENT COMES IN JUST FROM A TAX SEEN.
WE THEN. TRY AND SHOW YOU HOW THIS MONEY IS DIVIDED UP.
WE'RE USING THE DOLLAR BILL THAT IS LIKED, AND WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO SHOW THAT YOU SEE PUBLIC SAFETY HAS 50 PERCENT OF THE DOLLAR, WHICH IS WHAT COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS.
PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT 50 PERCENT OF THE FUNDS ACTUALLY GO THERE FOR WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO PUBLIC SAFETY.
NEXT PART IS JUST HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPENDING THE MONEY AND SENDING THE MONEY ASIDE OUT OF, AGAIN, A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE COST, IT'S PERSONNEL SERVICES, IT'S THE COST OF ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES.
ONE THING THAT REALLY STANDS OUT HERE AND WHAT'S MISSING IS YOU SEE NO CAPITAL.
IN THIS CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, WE HAVE NO CAPITAL BUDGETED.
WE'LL COVER THAT HERE IN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
NEXT, HERE'S THE GENERAL FUND DEBT THAT WE HAVE.
WE ACTUALLY I PROJECTED IT OUT ALL THE WAY TO THE VERY END, ASSUMING THAT WE.
WE WILL BE DEBT FREE, I KNOW IT'S A LONG WAYS OFF.
BUT WE'RE PAYING SEVEN POINT SEVEN POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR IN DEBT, BUT YOU CAN SEE AS IT STEPS DOWN EVENTUALLY GOES DOWN TO NOTHING.
YOU ALSO HAVE I HAVE HERE THE BAY FRONT SIERRA THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE IN IS THE LAST YEAR THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DEBT PAYMENT SO THAT MONEY WILL ACTUALLY COME BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
EVERY YEAR, WE'LL JUST TRANSFER.
IF THE MONEY IS NOT EXPENDED, THE MONEY COMES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND IT ALSO GOES BACK THE PORTION THAT GOES BACK TO THE COUNTY THAT THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE SIERRA. AS YOU SEE, THE SIERRA ACTUALLY SUNSETS IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR.
ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THE MONEY WILL ALWAYS STAY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL NIGHT, JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT WILL STAY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
AS FAR AS DEBT IS CONCERNED, WE ARE CONSTANTLY MONITORING OUR DEBT.
WE CHECK TO MAKE SURE AND WE TALK TO OUR ADVISORS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE BEST DEALS POSSIBLE IN THE DEBT.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE LOOKING FOR THE LOWEST RATES INTEREST RATES RIGHT NOW.
OF COURSE, INTEREST RATES ARE SO LOW.
WE HAVE REFINANCED EVERYTHING.
WE CAN'T GO ANY LOWER, SO THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ANYMORE AS FAR AS REFINANCING IS CONCERNED. SO IN FACT, THE NEXT ONE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT IS A LEGITIMATE.
THE REFINANCE WE CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT UNTIL YOU'RE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR.
THE BONDS JUST CAN'T TOUCH THEM UNTIL THEN.
THE PART THAT EVERYBODY IS SO INTERESTED IN, IS THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS ALL OUR UNALLOCATED FUNDS.
THIS IS THE NINE YEAR HISTORY.
OF ALL THE MONEY THAT IS LEFT AT THE END OF THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
AND I'M GOING TO GO. BOTTOM LINE IS BASICALLY FOUR POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF MONEY THAT WE HAD SITTING THERE.
NOW, ONE THING BACK IN 2013, WE WERE REQUIRED TO SET ASIDE 10 PERCENT OR.
THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST OUR POLICY TO SET ASIDE 10 PERCENT.
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NOW, AS OF THIS YEAR, IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WE SET ASIDE TWO MONTHS WORTH OF OUR EXPENSES AND SAID IT SET ASIDE IN CASE FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON WE DON'T GIVE TAX MONEY IN. WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION.AND THAT'S THE POLICY THAT WAS SET, I BELIEVE IT WAS BACK IN JANUARY.
UH, WE ALSO ESTABLISHED THIS YEAR IS A STABILIZATION FUND OR EMERGENCY FUND.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY DETERMINED THAT YOU DECIDED TO GO ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR PERCENT OF EXCESS MONEY THAT'S LEFT.
AND WE WENT TO THE MAXIMUM THIS TIME WE WENT TO FOUR PERCENT.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT WE'RE SETTING ASIDE NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS OR UNANTICIPATED.
APOSTROPHE. IT'S A STABILIZATION.
SO IN THE YEAR THAT WE'RE IN, TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
YOU CAN SEE THE THIRD LINE DOWN THAT IT SAYS THAT WE HAVE $26 MILLION OF UNALLOCATED FUNDS. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE SET BACK IN JANUARY, YOU HAVE TO PULL ASIDE TWELVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR TWO MONTHS WORTH OF ACTIVITY TO BE ABLE TO PAY OUR BILLS. THE NEXT, OF COURSE, IS YOU HAVE TO BACK OUT THE NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX THOUSAND FOR THE STABILIZATION FUND.
AND THAT LEAVES US $12 MILLION OF UNALLOCATED DOLLARS.
EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT THAT AND IT'S LIKE, THAT'S PHENOMENAL.
THAT'S GREAT MONEY. AND IT IS.
IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE REASON WHY THIS IS BUILT BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GONE FROM A LOW POINT OF TWO POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
WE'RE NOW UP TO $12 MILLION OF UNALLOCATED.
ZERO BASED BUDGETING DID A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
IT HELPS YOU HAVE VACANCIES WHEN YOU HAVE VACANT POSITIONS, THAT MONEY JUST CONTINUALLY ROLLS OVER AND ROLLS OVER.
YOU HAVE GOOD MANAGEMENT OF FUNDS.
LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? VERY GOOD. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
NOW WE GET TO MOVE TO THE CHALLENGES, THIS IS THAT OK, WE'VE GOT 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON? BUT LET'S THINK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS FIRST.
THE FIRST ONE IS POST-HURRICANE SUSTAINABILITY.
THE LAST TWO HURRICANES THAT WE'VE HAD FOR MATTHEW AND IRMA, WE AVERAGED $2.4 MILLION IN EXPENSES FOR BOTH OF THOSE HURRICANES.
HOWEVER. AND FROM THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER UP IN ROCK RIDGE CONTACTED THEM AND MADE SURE THIS IS TRUE.
BREVARD COUNTY HAS NOT HAD SUSTAINED HURRICANE FORCE WINDS SINCE HURRICANE DAVID IN 1979.
SO CAN YOU IMAGINE? WE THOUGHT IT WAS BAD WITH MATTHEW AND STUFF LIKE THAT? WE'VE NEVER HAD A HURRICANE HERE.
SO THAT TWO POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE, WHO KNOWS WHAT? WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF AGING FLEET AND STRUCTURES.
YOU HEAR IT CONSTANTLY WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE ASKING FOR.
NEW ITEMS, SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
AND. NEXT PART IS WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH A COMPETITIVE LABOR MARKET.
CURRENTLY HERE IN THE CITY, WE HAVE NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE POSITIONS.
OF WHICH, AND I GOT THIS NUMBER THREE DAYS AGO, I BELIEVE IT WAS A HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE VACANT POSITIONS OR 15 PERCENT OF OUR FORCE.
VACANT. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY ARE WE BAKING? IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PAYING ENOUGH? ALL. HAVE AMAZON PAYING 15, 20 DOLLARS AN HOUR? HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A PACE STUDY, AND IT'S CURRENTLY BEING DONE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR IT TO BE COMPLETED IN FEBRUARY.
SO WE'LL HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHERE WE STAND ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE WITH OTHER CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES.
YOU'RE IN THE STATE OR IN OUR AREA.
HERE'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM RIGHT HERE.
WE HAVE A THREE PERCENT CAP ON TAXES FOR THE CHARTER.
HOWEVER, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW TO YOU WHAT THE IMPACT HAS BEEN.
BECAUSE OF BEING CAPPED AT THE THREE PERCENT.
IN FISCAL YEAR 2020, WE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE $1.2 MILLION IN POTENTIAL REVENUE BECAUSE WE STAYED AT THE CAP.
IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE, WE LEFT ONE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS ON THE TABLE BECAUSE OF THE
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CAP. IN THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL THAT WE'VE WILL NEVER GET BACK IS $3.8 MILLION.NOW, THE BIG QUESTION IS, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY IS THINKING THIS, OK, IF WE WOULD HAVE PUSHED IT UP HIGHER.
WHAT WAS THE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE IMPACT ON SOMEBODY'S HOME? AND I'M GOING TO GO WITH AN AVERAGE OF A $100000 HOUSE AFTER ALL EXEMPTIONS, IF YOU WOULD. IF YOU WOULD ADD UP ALL THREE OF THOSE YEARS TOGETHER, YOUR INCREASE WOULD HAVE BEEN EIGHTY FIVE DOLLARS.
HER HOUSEHOLD. OR IF YOU WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN, FATHER.
LET'S PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU.
THE MAIN REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS THIS RIGHT HERE, THE CITY MANAGER HAS PUT TOGETHER A LIST THAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE AND SHE VETTED IT, CITED HER CHOICES TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEY HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT ADDS UP FOR HER WHAT SHE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD IS THREE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.
IN ON THAT, I'M GOING TO STEP BACK.
VERY APPRECIATE IT. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY, PART OF THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT IS ABOUT YOUR.
YOUR INTEREST IN USING THE UNASSIGNED AVAILABLE ON DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE, AND SO TO LARRY'S POINT, JUST TO GO BACK TO THE NUMBER THAT WAS SHARED, ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE ARE AT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD ABOUT $2.9 MILLION IN FUNDING THAT WE DID NOT SPEND IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. AND SO THAT WAS ADDED BACK INTO FUND BALANCE.
AND SO THE NET RESULT OF ALL THAT IN THE CALCULATIONS, AS LARRY MENTIONED TO YOU, IS WE HAVE A TOTAL OF $26 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.
TOTAL TWELVE POINT FIVE IS HELD FOR OUR TWO MONTH OPERATING PLAN.
ABOUT A MILLION OF THAT IS HELD UNDER THE STABILIZATION FUND CONCEPT, AND IT REALLY LEAVES YOU WITH TWELVE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS.
AND SO I HAD LARRY SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, AND I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED THEM BEFORE, TOO RELATED TO HURRICANES AND THE UNKNOWNS THAT COULD COME BEFORE COME BEFORE US.
REALLY, THERE'S A LEVEL OF TOLERANCE QUESTION THAT COUNSEL HAS TO ANSWER REGARDING HOW MUCH YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEND DOWN THE TWELVE POINT SIX.
AND SO TO THE LIST, THE THREE POINT FOUR MILLION, THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUESTS THAT CAME IN FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.
A LOT OF CAPITAL NEEDS AND SOME PERSONNEL NEEDS AS WELL DURING THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE, BUT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FUND THEM ALL OR REALLY ANY OF THEM WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS.
SO THE END RESULT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF UNFUNDED CAPITAL NEEDS, AND THAT'S THE BULK OF THIS LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU OR SOME PERSONNEL IN A HANDFUL OF OTHER ITEMS IN THERE.
BUT JUST WANT TO OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL AND SEE WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE US TO GO WITH THESE ITEMS THAT I KNOW.
I'VE SPOKEN TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SPECIFIC THOUGHTS YOU HAD. SO WHERE WE'D LIKE ME TO START? HAPPY TO DO SO. ALSO, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT TO ME, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS OF THE NIGHT.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THIS IS FOR YOU, MR. LARRY, BECAUSE ZERO BASED BUDGETING, I BOUGHT INTO IT AND I LIKED IT BECAUSE IT REALLY GAVE OUR STAFF.
YOU KNOW, IT GAVE THE DIRECTORS, YOU KNOW, THE CHANCE TO REALLY TRIM THE FAT IN THERE AND WHAT THEY SEE. BUT THEN WE STILL IT COMES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, US AS WELL.
SO BEING THAT WE'RE SWITCHING FROM THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT'S IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
BUT HOW MOVING FORWARD ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRIMMING THE FAT IF THIS POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT FOR SO LONG OR, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ASKING FOR A GENERAL.
AS FAR AS BUDGETING IS CONCERNED, WE WILL PROBABLY ALTERNATE BACK AND FORTH.
WE'RE GOING TO SET A PLAN TO PROBABLY DO LIKE A FOUR YEAR PLAN TO PROBABLY GO BACK TO ZERO BASED BUDGETING AGAIN TO TRIM THE FAT AGAIN, STAY IN IT FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND THEN DROP BACK DOWN.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND LEARN THEIR BUDGETS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DELVE INTO IT AND UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING IT FROM ZERO UP.
AND THEN THIS QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR YOU OR FOR STAFF OR FOR MR. MOHOL. YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE FUNDING REQUEST AT ONE POINT FIVE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. I KNOW WHERE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE FUNDING IN REGARDS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO FROM THE FEDS TO
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THE STATE AND THEN TRICKLE DOWN TO US.BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, ARE THESE ITEMS THAT ARE PERTINENT LIKE THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED NOW? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PUT OFF, YOU KNOW, LATER DOWN THE LINE BEING THAT THERE IS INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING COMING? WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE SAME WAY WE ALLOCATE IT.
YOU KNOW, YOU SAW THE DOLLAR BREAKDOWN, WE BROKE PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER ONE.
BUT IF WE HAVE FAILED INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR POLICE AND FIRE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE. SO.
SO THAT'S THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.
SO I'LL START. YEAH, THE WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL WATCHING THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT'S GOING TO SLOW DOWN.
WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY GUIDANCE THAT I COULD SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO DON'T REALLY HAVE A TIMETABLE.
NOT SURE HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DISSEMINATED DOWN IF IT DOES GET IT THROUGH THE STATE LEVEL AND THERE'S NOT LIKE A DIRECT ALLOCATION TO CITIES, THEN THAT WILL FURTHER SORT OF DILUTE THE PROCESS. AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
ULTIMATELY, THEY WILL GIVE US ACCESS TO THAT WE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR SO ON OUR LISTS OF CAPITAL ITEMS. I DON'T YET KNOW WITH ANY CERTAINTY THAT WE CAN FUND POLICE CARS OR A FUN FIRE TRUCKS AS AN EXAMPLE.
HOPEFULLY, WE CAN DO GET SOME ACCESS TO THAT AND DO SOME ROAD PROJECTS OR SOMETHING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET. SO TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT PRIORITIES, CERTAINLY IN THIS LIST, THERE'S A BROAD RANGE OF ITEMS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND OUR VERY HIGH LEVEL, VERY IMPORTANT.
FOR EXAMPLE, REPLACEMENT FIRE TRUCK OR FIRE STATION THREE CONTINUING TO WORK ON VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
I THINK THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES THAT I WOULD PLACE ON THE LIST.
AND THERE ARE OTHERS, TOO, THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH AGAIN, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW YOU ALL WANT TO PROCEED. OK.
MAYOR, CAN I KEEP GOING? I'M SORRY.
OH YEAH, OK. I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET IT ALL OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WE'VE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, IN GREAT DETAIL THIS WHOLE LIST.
UH, MR. ROBINSON, DO YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT I.
COULD YOU BRING THAT UP, BRIAN? SO I'LL SPEAK WHILE HE'S PULLING THAT OUT.
REGARDING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE ITEMS AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT DEBT, AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, MR BATTEN SPOKE ABOUT DEBT AS WELL.
WE COULD FOR CERTAIN THINGS, WE CAN ONLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A CREDIT CARD, YOU COULD PAY IT PAID IN FULL.
BUT WITH SOME OF OUR DEBT THAT WE OWE, IF YOU WERE TO PAY IT EARLY, THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY BE PENALIZED.
SO YEAR TO DATE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE DEBT ITEM THAT WE CAN PAY EARLY, AND IT'S ESTIMATED TWO POINT ONE MILLION.
AND IN DOING SO, WE WOULD SAVE 85000 IN INTEREST.
I'M TAKING THE WE I'VE GOT THIS INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, BUT WE CURRENTLY PAY 500000 A YEAR TOWARDS IT.
BUT WE COULD KNOCK IT OUT, YOU KNOW, IN TWO POINT ONE.
I'M JUST PUTTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.
SO COUNCIL KNOWS AND PUBLIC KNOWS.
IS IT WORTH IT? THAT'S FOR US TO DECIDE BECAUSE WE ALREADY ARE PAYING HALF A MILLION TOWARDS IT. BUT NOT THAT ONE.
NOT THAT ONE. SO WHEN I SENT YOU, LET'S SEE.
BUT I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT, AS YOU KNOW.
WE CAN'T PAY DEBT OFF SOONER, WHY NOT? BUT IF YOU SHARE YOUR OPINION ON IT, BECAUSE WE DID DIFFER SO.
ON TOP OF THE $85000 THAT YOU WOULD BE SAVING IN INSURANCE OR, EXCUSE ME, IN INTEREST, YOU ALSO HAVE EXPENSES TO PAY SOMETHING OFF EARLY.
SO THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE, BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO GO WITH THE ADVISOR'S INFORMATION, BUT YOU'RE NOT EXACTLY SAVING $85000.
SO EVEN ON THAT AND ALSO, DO YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE $2 MILLION RIGHT NOW? YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS SOME OF THIS UNALLOCATED MONEY TO SAVE.
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW YOU ALREADY HAVE IT BUILT INTO THE BUDGET TO PAY $500000 A YEAR SET THAT TWO MILLION ASIDE TO POTENTIALLY TAKE CARE OF A HURRICANE OR PAY FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF UP HERE ON THIS LIST.
THINK. AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU ALSO YOU'VE PAID THE BULK OF YOUR INTEREST ALREADY.
YOU KNOW, YOU PAID THE HEAVY PART OF INTEREST.
WHY PAY IT OFF NOW WHEN YOUR INTEREST PAYMENTS ARE VERY LOW? IT'D BE A BIG MISTAKE TO DO THAT.
CARRY ON. OK. YEAH, BECAUSE I LOOK AT YEAH, YEAH, I LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY.
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ONLY REASON BECAUSE LIKE, YOU KNOW THAT IT MIGHT BE, YOU SAID IT MIGHT BE LOWER, BUT YOU LOOK AT 85000 IN INTEREST, BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT THE ASSET MANAGER POSITION, WHICH IS 85000. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF LOGIC I WAS LOOKING AT, BUT I HEARD HIM FINALIZED.THE NEXT FEW ITEMS, IF MS. SHERMAN. MY QUESTION TO YOU WERE WHAT ITEMS ON THIS LIST COULD POSSIBLY BE GRANT FUNDED AND YOU WANT TO SHARE? YEAH. SO WE DID LOOK AT THAT AND I'LL KIND OF READ THROUGH THEM REAL QUICKLY.
WE DO KNOW OF SOME FEMA STATE GRANT THAT THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE EACH YEAR THAT COULD POTENTIALLY FUND THE GENERATOR GENERATOR REPLACEMENT AT CITY HALL.
THE $250000 ITEM THAT THAT HAS POTENTIAL THERE MAY BE SOME POTENTIAL TO FUND SOME OF THE PAVILION REPLACEMENTS THAT WERE LISTED THERE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE KNOW THAT SIDEWALKS WE'VE RECENTLY DONE SAFE RAILS TO SCHOOLS PROJECTS, SO THERE ARE SOME SIDEWALK POTENTIALS THERE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS THAT LEAD TO SCHOOLS THAT NEED TO BE DEVELOPED.
BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY OTHER SPECIFIC SIDEWALK GRANTS.
THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO DO GET A GRANT FUNDING FOR THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN TO UPDATE WHERE WE NEED CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE POTENTIAL FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS THAT WE COULD FIND SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR THOSE AS WELL.
NONE OF THOSE ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVELY IN AN APPLICATION STATUS, BUT WE KNOW THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IF WE CAN UTILIZE FUNDS ELSEWHERE, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE IT.
BUT LASTLY, WE AS YOU KNOW, WE AS A COUNCIL, WE LISTEN TO OUR SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE SHARED OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR INPUT AS WELL.
WITH ALL THE VEHICLES LISTED ON HERE, I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE WE'RE FOCUSING ON EITHER HYBRID OR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS, THEN WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES TO HOOK THEM UP TO.
SO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE FOR, YOU KNOW, POLICE OR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE OTHER REQUESTS FROM SAID, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT IN REGARDS TO RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO THE WORLD.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT LESS MAINTENANCE, LESS FUEL.
I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL AND GET FEEDBACK FROM STAFF.
I DID SPEAK TO MS. NANCY, BUT SHE SHARED THAT THEIR VEHICLE.
WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE GRANT FUNDED PARTIALLY AS WELL AS IT'S GOING TO BE A HYBRID BURAK OR ELECTRIC VEHICLE EITHER ONE.
OK. BUT I WAS JUST WANTING TO FURTHER CLARIFICATION FOR ALL THE OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING. ARE REQUESTED AS WELL, SO I'M DONE FOR NOW, I THINK.
SHERMAN FELIX. YOU, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE IT.
A SHORT I THINK LARRY DID MENTION SOME THINGS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WITH YOUR DEBT SERVICES, WE SHOULD TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE LOW INTEREST RATE WE SHOULD KEEP.
I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE A FOCUS.
WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT IS, YOU KNOW, TO THAT 3.4 MILLION MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CRITICAL ITEMS, THE MOSTLY CAPITAL.
MOVEMENT AS FOR CARS AND EQUIPMENT, SO THESE ARE CERTAIN THESE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN'T PUT THESE, WE CAN'T KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE IT NOW, WE WILL HAVE MORE PROBLEM.
IT'S GOING TO BE TWICE AS EXPENSIVE.
UM. PERSONNEL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THAT LATER, BUT AS FAR AS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ADDRESS THEM.
TWO, POTENTIALLY FIVE, FIVE POINT FOUR MILLION TAKEN OUT OF THE NINE, THEY DROP IT DOWN TO SEVEN. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE UNDER FOUR PERCENT.
MY REFERENCE IS IF WE LOOK THAT FROM 2013, AS FAR AS ON A SIGN UNBALANCE FROM TWENTY THIRTEEN, WE START FROM FORTY FOUR POINT SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT 2014 FOUR POINT THREE TWO POINT FIVE. IF WE GO BACK TWENTY SIXTEEN, AS FAR AS I RECALL, TWENTY SIXTEEN AND TWENTY SEVENTEEN, THESE WERE THE YEARS THAT WE HAD HURRICANE MATTHEW'S.
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WE HAD. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? ERM, I BELIEVE.SO I BELIEVE WE STILL WOULD BE OK AND WE KIND OF INCREASE FROM THERE, I MEAN, AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO SAVE FOR THE RAINY DAYS WE HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER TWO MONTHS WORTH THE OPERATION SHOULD ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING STOPPED.
THE CITY WILL BE IN BUSINESS FOR TWO MONTHS, SO WE GOT THAT COVERED.
IN ADDITION, SHOULD WE HAVE A HURRICANE, WE STILL GOT ENOUGH.
HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOTHING SUBSTANTIAL.
WE WOULD STILL HAVE ENOUGH SHOULD WE DECIDE TO GO TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL TWO OR THREE MILLION. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO ADDRESS WHAT'S AT HAND, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT CAPITAL NEEDS, I SHOULD SAY NOT.
IMPROVEMENT NEEDS THE ORDER NEEDS NOW.
WE GOT TO GET ALL ALL POLICE DEPARTMENT WHAT THEY NEED TO OPERATE.
THE EQUIPMENT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WHAT I WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS TO GO UP ON WHAT CITY MANAGERS ASKING TO TAKE IT INSTEAD OF DOING THE THREE POINT FOUR.
LET'S DO AN ADDITIONAL TWO MILLION, WHICH WOULD LEAVE US STILL AT SOMEWHAT SEVEN POINT TWO. I THINK THAT'S STILL WE STILL SHOULD BE OK WITH THAT.
AND THAT WOULD ADDRESS A WHOLE LOT OUT OF THAT LONG LIST, INCLUDING THE STREETLIGHTS AND THE SIDEWALKS.
WELL, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING TONIGHT AND MAKE A DECISION. UM, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT IN TERMS OF THE GRANT, WE CAN STILL, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER LOOK FOR WAYS, THOSE ITEMS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED VIA, YOU KNOW, THROUGH GRANTS.
IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, LOOKED INTO THAT.
BUT SOME OF THESE CAPITAL NEEDS, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM.
YOU KNOW, AT THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD INVEST IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WE SHOULD INVEST IN OUR PERSONNEL.
MORE THAN THE THREE POINT FOUR.
I'M NOT AS QUITE AS BOLD AS COUNCILMAN FELIX, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INVESTMENT UNTIL. NOT JUST ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR THE CITY.
OR HYBRID VEHICLES, BUT SOLAR PANELS.
ALL THESE BUILDINGS ON THIS CAMPUS.
SO IMAGINE US REDUCING OUR SPINAL BILL.
LIGHTS ON HERE, THE LIGHTS ARE ON IN CITY HALL, THE LIGHTS ARE ON AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LIGHTS GO ON AND THE FIRE STATION, EVERY FIRE STATION IN THIS CITY, THE LIGHTS ON. 24, SEVEN, THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE DAYS A YEAR.
UM, SOLAR PANELS ON THIS BUILDING.
IT'S THIS CHAMBER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE CITY HALL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE CITY HALL AND TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER. THAT'S WHERE I WOULD START WITH AND REDUCE OUR INPUT.
IN THE ENVIRONMENT, AND WE COULD WE COULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY GOING FOR YEARS TO COME, YEARS TO COME, WE COULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND WE HAVE ONE SHOT TO DO THIS BECAUSE.
AND WE PROBABLY COULD GET A GRANT, MAYBE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE MIGHT COULD GET THAT REDUCED. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT MONEY.
THAT'S WHY I WANT TO GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
I WANT TO HONOR THE REQUEST THAT THE CITY MANAGER PUT OUT.
I THINK SHE. AND STAFF DID A GOOD JOB AND.
THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ITEMS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO I LIKE TO ADD.
IT MIGHT NOT COST A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT INSTEAD OF THREE POINT FOUR, GET IT DOWN TO EIGHT MILLION. IN THE BALANCE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER SAID, ANOTHER MILLION.
ANOTHER ONE POINT ME AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT, THAT GOES TO SOLAR AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT NOT NEED AN ELECTRIC CAR BECAUSE FOR CERTAIN REASONS, WE CAN'T FIND AN ELECTRIC FIRE TRUCK.
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OF CHARGING STATIONS.WE MIGHT COULD CHARGE PEOPLE TO CHARGE UP AT CITY HALL OR AT OUR PARKS AND REC.
OR WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO PUT A CHARGING STATION AND THAT MIGHT BRING SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE INTO THE CITY.
A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE SUSTAINABILITY AND I THINK SOLAR, WE SHOULD GO TO THINK THAT IF I'M CORRECT, IT'S THE SATELLITE BEACH CITY MANAGER.
THEY GO SOLAR. THEY DID ON, I WOULD THINK, ONE BUILDING FOR SURE, THEIR CITY HALL COMPLEX. I THINK THEY WERE WORKING ON A PUBLIC THING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMPLETED.
WHO LET'S LET'S LET'S MOVE PALM BAY INTO THE FUTURE, BECAUSE I THINK IN THE FUTURE, A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.
WHEN I SAY FUTURE, I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THE WAY WE OPERATE, THE WAY WE OPERATE, CITY GOVERNMENT, THE WAY WE DO FINANCE.
OF TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING THE WORLD.
YOU NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MOMENT.
GO BIG. I LIKE TO GET THAT FUN BALANCED TO ABOUT EIGHT MILLION, NO LOWER THAN THAT AND USED THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR SOLAR.
THANK YOU. SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS.
COUNCILWOMAN FELIX IS SAYING INCREASE TO FIVE POINT FOUR, YOU'RE SAYING FOUR POINT FOUR.
BUT WHAT I'M HEARING, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO, I KIND OF IF IF WE'RE GOING TO GO, I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF STARTING TO.
AND I THINK WHEN I THINK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK OF HOW HOW WE'RE GROWING IN THAT CAPACITY, I'M THINKING OF BUILDING E.
I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE INCREASE OUR CAPACITY HERE WITHIN CITY HALL.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO THOSE THOSE ARE DEFINITELY MY THOUGHTS.
I BELIEVE THAT THE REQUEST FROM OUR CITY MANAGER IS HE'S BEING CONSERVATIVE IN THAT REGARD. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
ARMAMENTS EVEN ENHANCE, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME FOLKS SAID THAT THERE'S.
OR A VACANCY, RIGHT? LARRY JUST SAID YOU HAVE 15 PERCENT, WAS IT THAT NUMBER SIX, 15 PERCENT VACANCIES? AND THEN I SEE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN GROUPS, CERTAIN TEAMS THAT COULD USE AN EXTRA PERSON LIKE COMMUNICATIONS.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDRESSED AND THEN I THINK I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE ARE INCLUDING.
TEARS FOR THE PUBLIC IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, BECAUSE OUR OUR CONSTITUENCY HAS SAID WE REALLY PREFER COMFORTABLE CHAIRS.
DEPUTY MAYOR, I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF PAYING DOWN THE DEBT, BUT IT DOESN'T.
IT DOESN'T ADD UP, YOU KNOW, AND THE NUMBERS GOT A GOT A MATCH.
SO I WAS THERE WITH YOU UNTIL OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR SAYS, NO, IT'S GOING TO COST US TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT? YOU KNOW, ASSISTING THIS CITY WITH.
THIS CURRENT TASK, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD WEIGH THESE DOLLARS WE COULD BAR TO THESE DOLLARS INTO INTO.
GRANTS AVAILABLE GRANTS TODAY THAT WE COULD MATCH, AND THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SEEM LIKE OUR THREE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE EVEN MORE ENHANCED.
SO I KIND OF LIKE THOSE IDEAS.
I LOVE THE FACT OF HEAVY CHARGERS.
IT'S GOT TO BE GRANDSON, THOUGH, RIGHT? SO THOSE THAT'S THE DIRECTION I LIKE TO SEE US TAKE.
HAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF NEED AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT I, I I HAVE VISITED THE FIRE STATIONS, GENTLEMEN, AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL HAVE AND AND AND YOU GOT TO GOT TO UNDERSTAND THESE GUYS, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PREPARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO STAY READY.
AND IN THAT STAND READY MODE, THEY THEY WORK OUT.
AND I GOT TO TELL YOU STATION ONE AND STATION FIVE IS.
WELL EQUIPPED. AND IN THAT EQUIPMENT, THEY ARE ABLE TO COOK SUSTAINABLE MEALS, RIGHT?
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ALL THE STATIONS ARE LIKE THAT.IT REALLY NOT AND AND I'D LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF GRILLS THAT ARE ON STATION ONE AND STATION FIVE, MANAM SHERMAN IN IN ALL OUR FIREFIGHTER STATIONS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, I KNOW THAT WE WE NEED A FIRE STATION DOWNRANGE HERE BY BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL AND I WANT US TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS.
BEFORE WE JUST BLANKETLY SAY $5 MILLION, TO YOUR POINT, IF WE COULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF GROWTH BECAUSE IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
MENTIONED INFRASTRUCTURE IS CRITICAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND AND I HAVE TO I HAVE TO ADMIT.
WHEN WHEN SOMEONE'S LIFE IS ON THE LINE.
THAT'S WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.
I HAVE WITNESSED WHERE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, WHETHER THEY'RE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR FIREFIGHTERS, THEY LITERALLY GO OUT THERE AND THEY SAVE LIVES.
NOW WHEN YOU PUT, CAN YOU PUT A VALUE ON A LIFE? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
SO I WOULD PREFER THAT WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
I APPRECIATE THE LIST THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, MA'AM.
AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF IF WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER GOING ABOVE THAT, I WOULD PREFER IT ENHANCE THAT FIRST RESPONDER OPPORTUNITY.
THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED OUR FUTURE FIREFIGHTER OR OUR FUTURE FIRE BUILDING THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING.
I CAN GO WITH WHAT YOU WHAT YOU MENTIONED AND EVERYTHING, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO.
I'LL RATHER, YOU KNOW, GET THE NUMBERS.
I'LL RATHER BEFORE WE ALLOCATE TWO MORE MILLION OR ONE MORE MILLION, WE GET THE NUMBERS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW, I'LL SPEAK PERSONALLY.
YOU KNOW, MY FATHER ALWAYS TAUGHT ME, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO SAVE FOR A RAINY DAY AND THANK GOD I DID WHEN COVID HAPPENED BECAUSE MY BUSINESS WAS SHUT DOWN.
AND I STILL HAD TO PAY BILLS AND KEEP EVERYTHING GOING, KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.
SO THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE STILL WE DON'T WANT TO JUST ALLOCATE ONE MILLION, TWO MILLION WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHERE YOU KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS GOING TO BE OR THAT'S SOMETHING I FEEL WE CAN LOOK AT DOWN THE LINE.
SO THE ONLY OTHER TWO THINGS I'VE FORGOT TO MENTION LIKE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO VEHICLES, IF WE CAN GIVE THE DIRECTION OF LOOKING INTO ELECTRIC OR HYBRID VEHICLES BECAUSE LIKE I'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE CITY OF ORLANDO AND THEY ALREADY HAVE LIKE 1700 VEHICLES AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, POLICE PUBLIC WORKS, THIS IS EVERYBODY AND THEIR GOAL IS TO GET 2400.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD START WITH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SAID, AS YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SUSTAINABILITY, REDUCING EMISSIONS, REDUCING, YOU KNOW, COSTS ON FUEL AND MAINTENANCE.
SO I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION WE CAN GIVE.
LASTLY. UM, I HATE TO KEEP PICKING ON PUBLIC WORKS, BUT THE TRACK THE TWO HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FOUR TRACTOR WITH MOWING TRENCHING ATTACHMENTS.
I KNOW THAT WE JUST OUTSOURCE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO OUTSOURCE AGAIN AND THEN WE STILL DON'T EVEN HAVE FULLY STAFFED YET, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT WHEN WE'RE NOT FULLY STAFFED. SO THAT'S ANOTHER AREA I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'LL STOP NIT PICKING.
BUT THAT ONE RIGHT THERE, I WAS LIKE, OK, WE'RE GOING TO OUTSOURCE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AND I TALKED TO ME AND MS. SHERMAN WENT BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GET THAT EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING, JUST LIKE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GET THE EMPLOYEES.
YEAH. BUT YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL.
APPRECIATE IT. BURAK COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
TO THE CITY MANAGER, HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON ELECTRICITY.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF HIM, BUT GREG, I KNOW, MIGHT.
YOU KNOW, FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND A YEAR.
AND IF WE COULD SAVE THAT EVERY YEAR, FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND TWO YEARS, THAT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
WELL, FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND WELL, ACTUALLY CLARIFY JUST IF I MAY, ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'VE I'M AWARE OF AND ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING.
IN FACT, ON THE SOLAR, THE INSTALLATION OF SOLAR PANELS, THERE'S ALWAYS A RETURN ON INVESTMENT CALCULATION BECAUSE THERE'S AN UPFRONT CAPITAL COST, AND WE'RE TALKING TO SOME
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PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH THIS MORE OFTEN THAN WE DO.AND APPARENTLY THE ROI IS STILL SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LIKE 16 YEARS, WHICH WAS KIND OF SURPRISING THAT IT HASN'T IMPROVED.
BUT BECAUSE THE BATTERY STORAGE COMPONENTS OF SOLAR SYSTEMS IS NOT EXACTLY WHERE WE'D ALL LIKE IT TO BE, IT WILL BE ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE.
YOU STILL HAVE TO RELY ON FPL OR YOUR POWER PROVIDER, SO YOU WON'T BE COMPLETELY OFF GRID IN TERMS OF THE CITY OPERATIONS, BUT CERTAINLY WE WILL SEE SOME OVERALL INCREASE.
I JUST MY COMMENT ON THAT, SIR, IS JUST TO TELL YOU IT WOULD TAKE SOME YEARS TO GET US TO A PLACE WHERE WE ARE SEEING THE FULL IMPACT OF OUR INVESTMENT, RIGHT? AND I'M AWARE OF THAT.
BUT THE POWER WILL BE PRETTY MUCH SELLING BACK TO BEING OUT WITH ME.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY DO STILL.
I THINK WE SHOULD STUDY THAT IDEA BECAUSE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE GAS PRICES, WE ALL KNOW THAT GAS PRICE ROLLERCOASTER IN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, GAS PRICES ARE OVER $3 A GALLON.
AND THEY DON'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING NOW.
AND. IN EVERY WINTER IT GOES UP, AND IN SUMMER IT MIGHT DIP AROUND HOLIDAYS, SEEING LIKE GAS PRICES GOING UP, AND THAT IF WE DO PAY FOR GAS, DON'T WE? IT'S NOT FREE, SO WE DO PAY FOR ELECTRICITY.
OR WE COULD TAKE SOME MONEY AND AND ELIMINATE OUR GAS VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND OUR POWER BILL IN THE FUTURE.
OF. LOOKING FORWARD, THAT'S MORE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO SAVE IN THE BUDGET.
SO THAT'S THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THAT.
I WANTED TO JUST TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON'S COMMENT, MADAM SHERMAN.
UM. YEAH, WITH THE TWO HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, MOWING TRACTOR AND THE TRENCHING ATTACHMENTS AND ALL OF THAT, AND WE ARE.
CONTRACT. WHAT OTHER COMPANIES CAN YOU COME? SAY SOME MORE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP.
YEAH. TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL PROGRAM.
HE HIT ON SOMETHING, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST I BELIEVE THAT'S INFRASTRUCTURE TOO.
I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE TRACTOR WITH MOWING AND TRENCHING ATTACHMENTS.
IF YOU REMEMBER MY PRESENTATION FROM THE LAST TIME OUR MOWING AND TRENCHING EFFICIENCIES RIGHT NOW ARE WAY, WAY BELOW PAR THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE AT EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS SERVICE FOR UNIT MOWING OPERATIONS, EVEN IF WE OUTSOURCE EVERYTHING IN THE MAJOR ROADWAYS.
WE WILL STILL NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP UP, BRING THAT EFFICIENCY, BRING DOWN TO FOUR TO SIX WEEKS THAT WE WENT. THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO TO.
SO IT'S ADDING THIS EQUIPMENT CAN ONLY BE A SMALL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE BECAUSE WE ARE STILL BUYING MORE EQUIPMENT AND WE ARE STILL HIRING PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR OUTSOURCING, BUT THIS EQUIPMENT ARE A BIG PART OF THIS WHOLE PUZZLE. TO MEET THAT EFFICIENCY.
SO I THINK, GENTLEMEN, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY IS, IS A LIST AND AND.
COUNCILWOMAN FELIX PROPOSED THAT WE GO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY WE DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON THAT TODAY, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY COME BACK HAVE AS DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON SAID, COME BACK WITH WHAT YOUR IDEAS ARE FOR THAT.
I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE TO IDENTIFY AN ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION LIKE COUNCILMAN FELIX, THEY MAY BE WARRANTED.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED AND DEFINITELY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT.
MAYOR, CAN I SAY ONE? CAN I ASK SHERMAN A QUESTION I JUST WANTED TO? HOW MANY SPEAKER CARDS DID WE HAVE? YOU HAVE THREE. ALL RIGHT, KERRY, I'LL BE QUICK.
MS. SHERMAN I KNOW WE WE RAISE THAT PERCENTAGE TO FOUR EARLIER THIS YEAR.
NOW. IS THERE NOTHING SAID IS THAT SET IN STONE IN TERMS OF WE HAVE TO STAY AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, WHAT'S THE MINIMUM OR IS IT A MINIMUM WHERE THE RANGE WAS TWO TO FOUR PERCENT TO FOUR PERCENT? SO JUST AND I GET THE WHOLE RAINY DAY IDEA, AND I LEAVE MY PERSONAL LIFE LIKE THAT.
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EVEN IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, LOOK WHERE WE WERE.WE GOT TO YOU A LOT OF ASK IN FRONT OF US.
WE GOT TO LIST A LAUNDRY LIST OF A LOT OF CRITICAL ITEMS. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, SHOULD WE GO DOWN TO SEVEN, EVEN INCREASE IT BY A MILLION? WE CAN PUT THIS MILLION EXTRA A MILLION DOLLARS.
WHY SIT ON THE PILE OF MONEY? I GET IT. AND HOPING FOR SOMETHING CRAZY TO HAPPEN, TO RESPOND.
I MEAN, WE GOT MY I KNOW WE DON'T NECESSARILY COUNT ON FEMA, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALWAYS COME THROUGH AND THEY WILL.
SO WHY SIT ON THAT MONEY WHEN WE HAVE NEED, WE GOT CRITICAL NEED TO SERVE OR RESIDENT? SO I'M NOT GETTING THE FACT THAT WHY SHOULD WE KEEP THE NINE MILLION? PLUS, AN ADDITIONAL TWO TO I MEAN, TWO MONTHS WORTH OF OPERATING BUDGET.
IT JUST IT. JUST ME, MAYBE JUST ME, BUT WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEM CRITICAL ITEM.
AND AND YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCILMAN FELIX.
WE I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
HOWEVER, WHAT'S IDENTIFIED HERE IS THREE POINT FOUR MILLION.
AND I THINK WHAT WHAT COUNTS FOR WHAT I'VE HEARD COUNSEL SO FAR SAY IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE THE OTHER REQUEST, THE THE ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION.
I BELIEVE THERE'S NO TIME FRAME YOU COULD BRING THAT BACK.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE ALL HAVING THIS DIALOG, BUT.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS SOME SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS DIAS IS IS LOOKING TO IDENTIFY THAT EXTRA $2 MILLION.
THAT MAKES SENSE. SO AS AS SO I THINK YOU'RE HEARING I THINK WE'RE ALL TALKING THE SAME LANGUAGE, SO TO SPEAK, IS IDENTIFYING THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED.
BUT TO ADD ANOTHER TWO MILLION WITHOUT IT BEING IDENTIFIED AS IS WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE GETTING THE RESISTANCE FROM THE COUNCIL IS WHAT I'M.
IS THAT OUR CITY MANAGER? DID THAT LIST BASED ON JUST JUST TO GET BY SHOULD WE ALLOCATE AN EXTRA $2 MILLION? SHE'LL COME BACK WITH A LIST TELLING THAT EXACTLY THIS.
I JUST WANT US TO KEEP KEEP IN MIND, AND I DON'T WANT US TO ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF A RAINY DAY IS GREAT, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT STUCK.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT MONEY THERE AND HOPING SOMETHING OR WORSE, HOPING FOR THE WORSE.
I THINK. I THINK YOUR POINT WAS WELL TAKEN.
COUNCILMAN FELIX. I REALLY DO.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON BILL BRATTON, FOLLOWED BY JOHN MARLOES.
WE'LL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
IT'S NICE TO HAVE FUNDS IN YOUR IN YOUR WALLET.
YOU FEEL SECURE, YOU FEEL SAFE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I'M SATISFIED WITH 10 PERCENT.
I WASN'T SURE WHAT TWO MONTHS.
I WONDER WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF TWO MONTHS FUNDING? WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT 10 PERCENT IS THAT 12 PERCENT IS THAT 18 PERCENT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT BEFORE WHEN IT WAS, WE MAINTAINED A 10 PERCENT BALANCE TO MAKE SURE FOR OPERATIONAL FUNDS.
I STILL KIND OF LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BOTH PROCESSES COVERED OPERATING FUND TO OPERATE A CERTAIN LENGTH OF PERIOD AND ALSO LOOK AT A PERCENTAGE THAT WAY YOU HAVE GUARANTEED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE CAN SAY, WELL, I ONLY KEPT TWO MONTHS.
BUT. WE HAD A PROBLEM FOR THREE MONTHS.
OK, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THAT'S HIGHLY POSSIBLE THE WAY THE SYSTEMS GO RIGHT NOW AND AND THIS SEE THIS WORLD SET UP.
UNDER THE BATON STANDARD, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN MUCH, THE NUMBER ONE REASON WE NOW HAVE SUCH A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE IN MINIMUM FUND BALANCES IN THE CITY IS STILL ABLE TO OPERATE IS THAT WE'VE PUT ON THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS THE ROAD BOND STORMWATER BOND THAT ACCOMPLISHED THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS THAT WE DIDN'T SOLVE FOR 20 30 YEARS BECAUSE, OH LOOK, WE SOLVED ALL THE PROBLEMS, BUT WE'RE PAYING WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT? IT'S THE TAXPAYER THAT IS PAYING FOR IT.
AND THE ONLY REASON THAT WE WERE SITTING WHERE WE HAVE AN A-PLUS NUMBER NOW IS BECAUSE OF THAT. BECAUSE IF CITY WOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE AND DOING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE
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MAINTENANCE THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GUESS WHAT WE WOULD BE IN THE RED INSTEAD OF IN THE BLACK. SO START THINKING ABOUT THINKING THOSE TAXPAYERS BAILED YOU OUT BECAUSE IT WAS A FAILURE OF THE CITY THAT LET THIS LET THE ROADS GET TO THE CONDITION.SO. I MEAN, WHEN YOU START ADDING THE TAX RATE OF THE ROADS AND AND THE STORM WATER, IT PUTS PALM BAY JUST ABOUT THE HIGHEST TAXED CITY, IF YOU ADD THAT TO THE MILLAGE RATE, THE HIGHEST TAX CITY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
BUT I UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO SAY, WHAT DO WE NEED? WELL. I SAY WE NEED ONE SECURITY THAT CAN EITHER BE FINANCIAL SECURITY IN THE BANKING AND IN YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
THAT'S WHERE YOUR NUMBER ONE IS.
NUMBER TWO, YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO BE MAINTAINED, OTHERWISE THE CITY WILL FAIL.
DUMELO'S, FOLLOWED BY NATHAN WHITE.
ALL RIGHT. BUT HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? JOHN MCCLATCHY 250 LAGOON STREET.
ALSO VICE PRESIDENT OF LOCAL TWO FOUR FOUR SIX.
I'D GO INTO THE SHOP WITH A FIREFIGHTER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KILL MY TIME THERE, SO I WANTED TO THANK ALL YOU GUYS FOR THE SUPPORT ON THAT.
THIS IS REALLY AN UPDATE TO THE CITIZENS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO YOU AS A UNION.
TALK TO YOU, THE CITY MANAGER, ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
FOR THE LONGEST TIME, OUR FIREFIGHTERS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO HOLD THE LINE WITH EQUIPMENT WITH STATIONS AND YOU GUYS KNOW IT AND IT'S MORE LIKE AN UPDATE TO THE CITIZENS.
WE'RE HOLDING THE LINE, BUT OUR EQUIPMENT IS FAILING NOW.
OUR BACKUP APPARATUS, NOW ONE OF OUR FRONT LINE ENGINES, IS 17 YEARS OLD.
WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING PARTS.
IT'S TAKING IT'S IT'S TAKING WEEKS JUST TO GET A FILTER.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR FACILITY, OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN JUST TO GET A LATCH. IT TAKES THREE WEEKS.
THE REASON WE WENT TO THIS NEW MANUFACTURER FOR THE ENGINES IS BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE PARTS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FROM A NAPA OR A LOCALIZED DEALER.
SO GOING WITH THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT GUYS OUT ON THE FRONT LINE.
WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR THE CITIZENS.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE CALLS.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO FAIL ON GETTING ANY OF THOSE CALLS.
WE WANT TO GET A HARDENED STATION SIX RIGHT NOW.
IT'S IN A TRAILER. WE'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE A STATION BUILT.
ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE STATION SEVEN, THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED TO BE BUILT, FOR INSTANCE, I KNOW I'M JUMPING AROUND.
I'M SORRY. TWO THOUSAND EIGHT.
WE RAN NINE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED CALLS.
AS OF TODAY, WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT SIXTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED CALLS AND WE'RE RUNNING THE SAME AMOUNT OF STATIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, A NEW ENGINE RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS $520000.
THE PRICE COMING UP IN JANUARY 1ST IS GOING TO JUMP ANOTHER 10 PERCENT, ADDING ANOTHER.
WHAT IS IT? $52000 INCREASE TO THE PRICE OF AN ENGINE, AND THAT'S ALMOST ACROSS THE BOARD WITH ALL MANUFACTURERS.
FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE HALE PUMP COMPANIES THAT MAKES STANDARD FOR MOST OF THE FIRE ENGINES, THEY JUST JUMPED $3500.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST ON ONE PART.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE FAILING, AND I REALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE CITY COUNCIL AND AND THE CITIZENS KNOW LIKE WE NEED ABOUT THREE ENGINES RIGHT NOW. AND THE REASON IS IS IF I COULD JUST FINISH THIS LAST SENTENCE.
THE REASON BEING IS THE ONE ENGINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
IF WE DO GET IT APPROVED, IT'S GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET IT IN FEBRUARY, HOPEFULLY BECAUSE IT'S A DEMO MODEL.
ANY ENGINE AFTER THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT 22 MONTHS TO BUILD.
AND IF WE PURCHASE THE ENGINES NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM FOR 22 MONTHS.
UNTIL THEY'RE BUILT, SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M PUTTING, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE.
YOU CAN WHITE 13 ON ONE SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.
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GOODNESS GRACIOUS.YOUR PRESENTATION? FROM. CITY HALL BY CITY STAFF.
LABELING THE CITIZEN PASSED THREE PERCENT CAP AS A CHALLENGE TO THE CITY.
I'M. BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MY WHOLE TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT, SO I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
THIS MONEY REFERENCED, THOUGH, WITH THAT 30 PERCENT CAP, I DO TAKE ALSO ISSUE WITH THE TERM LEFT ON THE TABLE.
IT'S ACTUALLY LEFT IN THE POCKETS OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS, AND I'M SURE THEY DID GOOD THINGS WITH IT. PROBABLY SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF IT IN THE CITY AND ALSO AS NONE OF MY BUSINESS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR MONEY.
I REMEMBER THE UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE COMING UP IN CONVERSATION WHILE WE WERE PROTESTING AND ARGUING FOR OUR RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS WITHOUT QUICK CHANGES TO THE LAW AND WAS TOLD THAT THE UN DOESN'T GET FUND BALANCE IS THERE FOR A REASON. WE CAN'T JUST SPEND IT WILLY NILLY.
YOU A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN ONE NIGHT AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT QUALIFIES AS WILLY NILLY, BUT I THINK IT'S GETTING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO THE COMPARABLE SITUATIONS.
AND. LOOKING AT THE DEBTS THAT WON'T BE PAID OFF TILL TWENTY FORTY ONE, AT LEAST THAT DON'T INCLUDE THE ROAD BOND, THE $250 MILLION ROAD BOND, WHICH AS.
MR BATTEN POINTED OUT, WAS INSTEAD LEVIED ON THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYERS, SO TO SPEAK.
THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND ALSO ALREADY CAME UP TONIGHT ON A DIFFERENT POINT.
ABOUT A POSSIBLE USE FOR IT, I'VE NOT HEARD IT COME UP WITH REGARDS TO THIS FUND BALANCE, ESPECIALLY INTERESTING FACT CONSIDERING ONLY SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS PUT TOWARDS ROAD MAINTENANCE IN THIS LAST BUDGET, WHICH IS LESS THAN LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS LESS THAN THE YEAR BEFORE THAT DESPITE TAKING OUT.
A HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION, WHICH WE ALSO MENTIONED TONIGHT WOULD STILL NOT EVEN COVER ALL OF OUR ROADS.
AND WITH PERSONNEL ALREADY BEING 71 PERCENT OF GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
I I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE PROPERLY LOOKED AT WHERE OUR PERSONNEL ARE, HOW THEY ARE BEING UTILIZED, IF WE'RE TRYING TO BUY OR PAY FOR MORE OF THEM WITH THE DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.
SO. GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S BEFORE US IS.
NOT MADAME SHERMAN'S LIST OF OF NEEDS AND WHERE WE ARE.
HAVE $9 MILLION IN THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE THAT IT'LL BE NINE POINT TWO.
A LITTLE BIT OVER IF IF WE RENT THIS.
MY MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD WOULD BE TO.
HAVE MADAM SHERMAN, YOU KNOW, AS SHE SEES FIT WITH WITHIN HER REQUEST TO ADD, HOWEVER, SHE ORGANIZES THAT TO ADD SOMEONE TO HER COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UM. I'M OUT, I HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE'RE GOING TO, I WOULD SAY WE WE STICK TO THE THREE POINT FOUR NOW AND THEN JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN FELIX, OK? AND NO, I'M WITH YOU.
BUT AS PART OF THAT, AS SHE ADDS SOMETHING, HOWEVER, SHE IF SHE DUCKS ONE FROM THE OTHER, HOWEVER, SEEING OK. OK, I WOULD BE GOOD WITH THAT.
MY ONLY THING WOULD BE THAT SHE HAD HER COMMUNICATIONS MEMBER TO THAT TEAM.
SHE COULD, YOU KNOW, DECIDE ON HOW SHE WOULD WANT TO FIX THAT.
OK. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT REFERRING TO THE COMMUNITY INFO COORDINATOR SALARY ADJUSTMENT, YOU'RE SAYING A WHOLE NEW POSITION.
OK, I'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, DO DOES THAT SHE COULD, YOU KNOW, GIVE HER THE LATITUDE TO
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CLARIFY. SO ARE YOU ASKING TO FUND AN ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY, THE INFORMATION OFFICER WITHIN THE THREE POINT FOUR? SO MOVE THINGS AROUND AND MAKE THAT THAT FIT, OK? SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK ME, IS THERE YOU SEE THERE'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION THAT WE NEED ANOTHER. I THINK THAT TEAM IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OVERSTRETCHED, OVERWORKED.YOU KNOW, I MADE A PUSH FOR SOLO.
AND IT SEEMED LIKE IT'S NOT A NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, SO I'M STILL STICKING BY MY ADDITIONAL. AND AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS IN DEDICATING THAT ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IMPROVING.
IT NEEDS. UM, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T SAVE MONEY ON OUR ELECTRIC BILL AND WE COULD SAVE LIVES, I.
I'M SUPPORTING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHERE I'M STANDING AT RIGHT NOW, SO FOUR POINT FOUR MILLION.
ALLOCATING A MILLION DOLLARS TO ADDRESS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS.
I THINK WE HAD A DRESS THAT WE WERE GOING TO.
SHE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND THEN HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, SHE COULD INCLUDE YOUR COMMENT IN THAT AND COMING BACK, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING BACK TO THE PLACE WHERE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HAD SAID, HEY, LET'S LET'S STAY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE ASK.
I GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE A MOTION.
HOPEFULLY, I CAN ADDRESS EVERYTHING IN THE MOTION.
Y'ALL HELP ME OUT. IF NOT, I'LL AMEND IT.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF THE SPECIFIED AMOUNT OF UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO REALLOCATE HER POSITIONS AS SHE SEES SEARCH FOR OTHER POSITIONS WHERE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER AND FOR THE INTENT TO PURSUE GRANT FUNDING FOR THE AVAILABLE POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
I GUESS FOR GRANT FUNDING ELIGIBLE, THANK YOU.
AND WITH THE INTENT THAT ALL VEHICLES LISTED.
ON PURSUE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES.
AND SORRY FOR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO COME BACK WITH THE LIST OF OTHER CAPITAL NEEDS OR AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT.
YEP. YEAH. REGARDING SOLAR PANEL FIREFIGHTERS, EVERYTHING FOR US TO DISCUSS.
HERE. AS A COUNCIL, SORRY, I'M TRYING, GUYS.
IT'S MIDNIGHT THERE, AN AMOUNT YOU WANT US TO BRING THE LIST BACK.
ADAM TERESE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? FELIX. HMM.
WELL, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED, BUT BUT I'LL I'LL SUPPORT IT WITH AS AS PRESENTED, HOPING WE CAN RECONVENE PRETTY SOON.
ON THAT SAME WITH THE ADDITIONAL.
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, THOUGH, COUNCILMAN FELIX, MADAM SHERMAN, WHEN HE SAYS PRETTY SOON RECONVENED. DO YOU THINK WITHIN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, THE FIRST MONTH? ABSOLUTELY. WE WE HAVE SO MANY UNFUNDED CAPITAL NEEDS THAT IT WON'T TAKE MUCH TIME TO PUT THE LIST TOGETHER FOR $2 MILLION.
I MEAN. I HATE TO SAY IT THAT WAY, BUT IT'S TRUE.
SO WE WOULD BRING THAT TO YOU AT THE JANUARY, JANUARY 6TH MEETING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND JUST ONE THING I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY, BUT IN THE CONVERSATION IS ABOUT THE THE FIRE STATIONS.
BULK OF THOSE COSTS WILL BE FUNDED HOPEFULLY OUT OF OUR IMPACT FEES, BUT THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR SOME GENERAL FUND SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE.
SO BUT WE ARE WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON ALL THAT, AS JOHN HAD MENTIONED.
SO. I GOT IN A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MADE THE MOTION
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COUNCILMAN FOSTER SECONDED.ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE ON COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX.
[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]
I'M GOING TO MAKE IT SHORT.REALLY, TAKE TIME TO ENJOY THIS TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY, AS WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT THIS WHOLE COVID THING WAS GOING TO GIVE US A BREAK, BUT APPARENTLY NOT.
JUST BE CAREFUL, BE SAFE AND ENJOY AND ENJOY THE HOLIDAYS.
MERRY CHRISTMAS! WE'LL SEE YOU ALL SATURDAY AT THE F W F R W E.
WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE PARK AT 12 O'CLOCK.
IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK SO MUCH.
YES. ALSO, LET ME START WITH THE SPACE COAST PLANNING TRANSPORTATION.
AN ORGANIZATION I WAS AT THE MEETING JUST RECENTLY.
AND. PALM BAY, WE'RE ON THE TOP OF THE LIST.
IS IT DESIGNED OR MALABAR ROAD? IT'S ON SANFILIPPO.
IT'S GOING TO BE DONE SO NEXT YEAR COMING, SO THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR PALM BAY.
BUT. I LIKE MY TWO COLLEAGUES TO MY LEFT AND RIGHT SERVING ON THAT BOARD.
SO I GOT REAPPOINTED TO THE FLORIDA CENTRAL FLORIDA MP.
WE'LL BE SERVING ANOTHER YEAR AS AN ALTERNATE AND REPRESENTING PALM BAY.
AS FOR THE CITY MANAGER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS FROM THE MY COLLEAGUES ON THE DIAS, I WOULD LIKE TO.
I'D LIKE TO GET A REPORT OR ANALYSIS HOW COVID 19 AFFECTED CITY OF PALM BAY GOVERNMENT.
WHAT I'M ASKING FOR A REPORT ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WAS AFFECTED AS FAR AS COVID 19, HOW THAT EFFECT A WORK ENVIRONMENT.
HOW DID THE PPE WORKED FOR THE CITY? WHAT WAS THE COST TO THE CITY? HOW COVID 19 AFFECTED THE CITY? AND WHAT CAN WE DO COMING IN 22, 2022 TO PROTECT THE CITY AS FAR AS EXTENDING THE LEAVES THAT WE PASSED OR WE NEED MORE PPE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT SOME NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS.
I LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER ON THAT IN THE REPORT NEXT YEAR.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT, MADAM CHAIR OR MADAM SHERMAN? SHERMAN. THINK IT'S GETTING LATE? WE SHERMAN YEAH, WE WE CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF THE DATA.
I MEAN, WE HAVE DATA ON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY COVID, YOU KNOW, LOST TIME, THINGS LIKE THAT AND PPE, WE CAN PULL THAT TOGETHER.
IT'S JUST ABOUT JUST GETTING THAT DATA TOGETHER.
AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT BECAUSE WE GOT A NEW VARIANTS OUT THERE AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT. THE WHOLE UNITED STATES IS ALREADY AFFECTING THE WHOLE UNITED STATES.
SO I WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO PROTECT PALM BAY AND OUR CITY WORKERS. I THINK MADAM MADAM SHERMAN IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO.
WAS THAT IT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
IT'S THE ONLY THING JUST TO TOOT MY OWN HORN, I GRADUATE THIS SATURDAY, MY MASTERS, SO OTHER THAN THAT? THANK YOU, SIR.
HAD CLASSROOMS IN HER PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.
SO DOING THAT WHILE, YOU KNOW, BEING A FATHER SERVING ON HERE AND EVERYTHING, SO.
I WANT TO DALTON. SO NOT I DON'T WANT THOSE PROBLEMS. NOT AT ALL. SO, YEAH.
OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, HAPPY HOLIDAYS FOR THOSE IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.
I HOPE HE HAD A WONDERFUL HANUKKAH.
HAPPY KWANZAA. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE NEW YEAR AND.I BELIEVE THE HIGHLIGHT TO YOU, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP. DON'T ACT SURPRISED.
IT'S ALL YOURS, MAYOR. SO I JUST LIKE TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ONE AND ALL.
AS YOU SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT THIS SATURDAY AT 13:00 HOURS, IT'S F OUR DAILY.
IT'S FREE. THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.
LISTEN, LET ME TELL YOU, I JUST GOT A REPORT THAT THERE WILL BE GIVEN OUT EIGHT HUNDRED TOYS TO CHILDREN.
THE FIRST 800 TOYS AND WATCHING IT MIGHT KEEP CLIMBING.
EIGHT HUNDRED TOYS FOR THE 800 CHILDREN THAT WALKED THROUGH THOSE DOORS, THE VERY FIRST.
IDEALLY, THEY'LL GET ADDITIONAL TOYS AND IT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED BASIS. SO I REALLY LOVE THE WAY THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS PARTNERED WITH THIS EVENT.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY EACH AND EVERY ONE ON THIS DAIS.
SHOULD BE PROUD THAT WE'RE HOSTING THE LARGEST CHRISTMAS PARTY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
AND IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S THE LARGEST CHRISTMAS PARTY ON THE SPACE COAST, YOU MAKE SURE YOU GET HERE SATURDAY AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT EFFORT DOUBLY MEANS.
KEEP YOUR WALLETS AT HOME RAW AND THAT ENDS MY REPORT.
ADMINISTRATIVE MADAM SHERMAN COME HERE.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
I HAVE THREE QUICK THINGS.FIRST, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR ALEX ALEX BERNARD. SHE'S IN THE BACK.
SHE'S HUNG IN FOR THIS FIRST MARATHON COUNCIL MEETING.
SO GLAD TO HAVE HER ON THE TEAM THIS WEEK, TOO.
SECOND IS I'D LIKE TO REQUEST COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION FOR HAVING THE MAYOR SIGN SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO OUR STATE FOLKS LEGISLATORS REGARDING OUR NATIONAL GUARD IN THE MALABAR ANNEX WE'VE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, GOOD NEWS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO FUND POTENTIALLY.
I'M SORRY YOU WANT TO GRAB IT.
OH, I'M JUST SAYING, GO AHEAD.
FUNDING IS GOING TO THE STATE, AND THEY WILL BE ALLOCATING IT FOR EXPANSION OF THE FLOOR NATIONAL GUARD, AND IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE MALABAR ANNEX IS ON THE LIST AND THAT'S A LOT SOONER THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN HEARING.
IT WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE, SIX YEARS, MAYBE.
SO IT COULD HAPPEN A LOT SOONER IF THIS GETS APPROVED.
SO. YOU KNOW, MA'AM, I LIKE TO BEFORE YOU GO ON TO YOUR THIRD ITEM, I'D LIKE TO JUST SHARE EXPANDING THAT AND SENDING IT TO GET SUPPORT FROM THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES TO SUPPORT THIS AS WE'RE GOING TO.
SO I LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
YOU CAN START GETTING ON THE HORN THAT A LETTER IS COMING FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS HUGE FOR PALM BAY. I HAVE THIS TRAINING GROUND HERE, RIGHT IN OUR ANNEX.
GENTLEMEN. I'M RETIRED FROM THE NATIONAL GUARD, AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THEY WILL WOULD BRING TO THE CITY IS OUTSTANDING THE HOTELS, RESTAURANTS AND JUST PEOPLE KNOWING ABOUT PALM BAY. THAT'S THAT'S HUGE TO HAVE THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD IS THE ARMY OF THE AIR FORCE. REALLY, BOTH.
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE I'M NOT SURE WHO WOULD BE EMBEDDED HERE SHOULD BE AN AIR NATIONAL GUARD BECAUSE WE SLEEP IN HOTELS.
YEAH, THERE'S NO WORRIES THAT SLEEPING HOTELS, THAT'S FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX.
OKAY, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER THREE.
I JUST WANT TO TELL EVERYONE AND THIS IS REPUBLIC TO FIRE OLD FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE ON PALM BAY ROAD IS FINALLY GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
YOU'LL NOTICE IF YOU DRIVE BY THAT, THERE'S A FENCE AROUND IT.
THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME PREP WORK THAT'S GOING ON FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD.
THEY ACTUALLY WILL PROBABLY START THE DEMOLITION THE WEEK AFTER CHRISTMAS, SO I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE THAT THAT IS HAPPENING.
THOSE WHO DON'T ALREADY KNOW OUR PLAN IS TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION THERE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE FUTURE FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN BECAUSE WE DO NEED ONE IN THAT AREA, BUT JUST ONE OF THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE THAT THAT IS HAPPENING AT LONG LAST.
IT'S AN EXTERMINATION IS IS EXTERMINATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED MULTIPLE TIMES AND CONTINUOUSLY, AND WE WILL NOT EXPECT ANY MASSIVE EXODUS OF RATS.
JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
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THANK YOU, MA'AM. PUBLIC COMMENTS WHICH ARE IN.[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
BUT YOU RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.FIRST OF ALL, MAYOR BACK, YOU UP 100 PERCENT, WE WERE SOLD A BILL OF GOODS ON OUR ROADS.
IT SAID WE WILL FIX ALL YOUR ROADS.
WE DID GOT THE SHAFT, BUT THAT'S OK.
LOTS OF TIME TONIGHT WAS SPENT ON.
I MEAN, MESS UP THE WORDS HERE.
A NEW MANAGER FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE AM I OFF BASE HERE? OK, I AM.
OK. LET ME ASK THE QUESTION, THEN YOU CAN TELL ME, SHUT UP, OK, LOTS OF TIME WAS SPENT.
YOU TOOK THE BUILDING MANAGER GIVE HIM RESPONSIBILITY FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.
I'M JUST OLD BOY FROM KENTUCKY, SO I GET CONFUSED.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT GUY? IS HE STILL PULLING CITY DOLLARS? JUST JUST BE NICE TO KNOW.
LAST THING, THE STREET LIGHTS OUT HERE ON MENTON BETWEEN ALABAMA AND JUPITER.
CAN THEY BE TILTED OR THEY SHINE ON THE SIDEWALK? ON THE EAST SIDE. IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WHICH SECTION AGAIN, BUT FROM MALABAR TO JUPITER ON ASSIGNMENT AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STREET LIGHTS.
THAT'S IT. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.
SOME OF THOSE STREETLIGHT THAT.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THERE'S SOME OF THEM THAT ARE WAY OFF.
OKAY, WHO'S NEXT? PASTOR KIM KINDERGARTEN? KINDLE GOT ONE FIVE FOUR INCH LONG ROAD SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, THE BEST CITY IN ALL OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THE CHARTER REVIEW.
DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SAY THANK YOU LAST LAST MEETING, BUT IT IS AN HONOR TO SERVE YOU AND TO SERVE THE CITY.
APPRECIATE. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
OUR NUMBER TWO CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA IS RUNNING VERY SMOOTH.
WE ARE READY TO HAVE A GREAT TIME AND AND TO ESTABLISH THE COMMUNITY.
AND LAST NUMBER THREE, I DON'T REALLY SEE THE THREE PERCENT AS A CHALLENGE.
I SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE CREATIVE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, MAINLY BECAUSE BILL BURTON HIT IT ON ON THE NOSE.
IT'S IT'S IT'S $80 PLUS THREE PERCENT EVERY YEAR, PLUS INCREASED GAS, INCREASED INFLATION, INCREASED UTILITIES INCREASE INCREASE.
AND AND IF $80 IS NOT THAT MUCH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE GENTLEMAN GIVE ME THE EIGHTY DOLLARS SO I CAN PAY IT OUT OF HIS MONEY AND THAT'LL BE OK.
SO LET'S REMOVE THAT CHALLENGE.
THAT'S ANOTHER CHALLENGE FOR THE CITY.
I THINK YOU ALL ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.
I THINK WITH WITH THE INCREASE IN PRICING OF HOUSES AS IT'S BEING DEVELOPED IS INCREASED MONIES THAT ARE COMING IN.
WE SEE A PLUS MOVING UP EVERY YEAR AND THAT WILL CONTINUE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT OVER TIME WE WILL MEET THE LAUNDRY LIST AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT JOB YOU'RE DOING AND WE DO WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY A BLESSED AND MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY, PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR 2020 TO.
AND WHEN ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SO, YOU KNOW, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.