Jan 06, 2022 Council Meetings - Regular

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HMM. OK, IT'S 1900 HOURS OR SEVEN O'CLOCK.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 20 20 TO ZERO ONE TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR, TWENTY TWENTY TO FATHER, WE JOIN OUR HEARTS THIS EVENING THANKING YOU FOR YOUR MERCIES ARE NEW EVERY MORNING, FATHER, WE CAN USE UP ALL YOUR MERCY TONIGHT AND TOMORROW MORNING WE'LL WAKE UP AND IT IS NEW ONCE AGAIN.

IN THIS NEW YEAR, FATHER, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE OPEN HAND OF GOD TO BE UPON THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WE ASK FOR OUR LEADERS, FOR THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR WIVES, THEIR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN THAT YOU WOULD SURROUND THEM WITH YOUR MERCY AND YOUR GRACE.

THAT WISDOM FOR THIS YEAR WOULD BE IMPARTED.

THE TWO WOULD SMILE UPON PALM BAY THAT YOU WOULD HONOR THE WORDS THAT HAVE BEEN SPOKEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE BEST CITY IN ALL OF THE UNITED STATES. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MERCY, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS NEW YEAR.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING.

WE HONOR YOU TONIGHT IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN. PRESENT FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IT'S A REPUBLIC WHICH HAS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

RAUL. MADAM LEFLER, ROLL CALL.

MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

MS. SHERMAN YOUR MS. SMITH HERE.

BE MAYOR ANNOUNCEMENT, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THREE FOUR ONE FOUR.

UNDER REVISIONS, MADAM SHERMAN, YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[AGENDA REVISIONS]

ALSO, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEMS 13 AND 14 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS HAS REQUESTED THAT THE CASES BE CONTINUED TO THE FEBRUARY 17TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

MAY I I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT ONE NOW OR GO TO MY LAST REVISION.

YES, MA'AM. CARRY ON.

OK. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 16 UNDER CONSENT AGENDA RELATING TO PHASE FOUR OF THE GO ROAD BOND PAVING PROGRAM HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED TO THE JANUARY 20TH TWENTY TWENTY TWO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. MY MA'AM, MADAM SMITH, ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. THERE.

YES. TO MAKE A MOTION.

OK. I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO FOR THE CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS 13 AND 14 TO THE FEBRUARY 17TH TWENTY TWENTY TWO COUNCIL MEETING.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION, A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED HIS UNANIMOUSLY MADAM SMITH.

ANY ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? NO, SIR. SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]

I'M GOING TO HAVE KIM CURRY COME ON UP AND ANYONE FROM HER ENTOURAGE TO COME WITH HER.

COME ON UP. DON'T BE SHY.

HI, KIMBERLY.

MARCELLA, I KNOW YOU TWO.

SO THIS IS A THIS IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH AND WHAT THESE LADIES DO, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS ACTUALLY GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR COUNTY AND WE CANNOT

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BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT WHEREAS HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS THE ILLEGAL TRADE IN HUMAN BEINGS, A PUBLIC HEALTH AND HUMANITARIAN ISSUE, A FORM OF MODERN DAY SLAVERY AND A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY THAT VIOLATES THE MOST BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS AND DEPRIVES VICTIMS OF THEIR FREEDOMS. AND WHEREAS HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS THE RECRUITMENT HARBORING, TRANSPORTING, PROVIDING AND OBTAINING OBTAINING A PERSON FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMMERCIAL SEX ACT LABOR OF SERVICES INDUCED BY FORCE, FRAUD AND COERCION.

OR IN WHICH A PERSON INDUCED TO PERFORM SUCH ACTS AS NOT BEEN OBTAINED OF THE AGE OF 18.

WHEREAS OVER 45 MILLION PEOPLE ARE BEING TRAFFICKED WORLDWIDE AND THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF THE WORST COUNTRIES GLOBALLY, WITH AN ESTIMATED ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE THOUSAND INCIDENTS THAT OCCUR EACH YEAR.

AND WHEREAS FLORIDA RANKS THIRD IN THE UNITED STATES FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASES REPORTED TO THE NATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING RESOURCE CENTER, WITH THE CENTRAL REGION HAVING THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CASES REPORTED TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AS HUMAN TRAFFICKERS REGARD FLORIDA AS ONE OF THE MOST ATTRACTIVE DESTINATIONS AND TRANSIT POINTS FOR THEIR VICTIMS. AND WHEREAS HUMAN TRAFFICKING HAS INCREASED EXPONENTIALLY AS THE FASTEST GROWING AND THIRD LARGEST INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE BEHIND ILLEGAL DRUGS AND ARMED TRADES GENERATING GET THIS OVER ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY BILLION DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY INVOLVING INVOLVING CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE, PORNOGRAPHY AND ONLINE EXPLOITATION OF OFTEN THAT OFTEN INVOLVES FAMILY MEMBERS TO THOSE PERSONALLY LOANED TO THEIR VICTIMS. AND WHEREAS HUMAN TRAFFICKING COMMUNITY AWARENESS INITIATIVES.

AN INTERVENTION AND EDUCATION OF PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS ARE CRITICAL TO THE FABRIC OF OUR SOCIETY. AS THE AVERAGE AGE OF RECRUITMENT INTO TRAFFICKING IS 12 TO 14 YEARS.

AND HALF OF ALL TRAFFICKING VICTIMS ARE CHILDREN.

WHEREAS A NEW LIFE INTERNATIONAL.

IS A LOCAL FAITH BASE, NON FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION SERVING AS TRUSTED PARTNER TO RAISE AWARENESS, REDUCE VULNERABILITY AND PROVIDE RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO VICTIMS, SURVIVORS AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, I SHOULD SAY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

YOU GUYS GOT TO SAY THAT WITH ME.

COME ON, CAN YOU DO THAT? MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH? I LOVE THAT. I JUST I LOVE THAT.

BY VIRTUE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY TWO AS HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO PROTECT THE VULNERABLE AND END HUMAN TRAFFICKING THROUGH CONTINUED PREVENTION, PROSECUTION, EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.

TO SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO THESE PERPETRATORS, I CALL THEM COWARDS THAT FLORIDA HAS A ZERO TOLERANCE STATE FOR ALL FORMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND THAT ARE COMMITTED TO PROTECTING VICTIMS RIGHTS AND RESTORING THEIR DIGNITY AND FREEDOM.

AND WHEN THIS HEREOF, I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE A FIXED THE SIXTH DAY OF TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY TWO.

CONGRATULATIONS, KIM.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

SIZE SHORT HERE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

HONORABLE COUNCIL MEN AND PEOPLE AND EVERYONE OF PALM BAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING THAT THIS MONTH IS NATIONAL AWARENESS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, AND THE NATIONAL DAY OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS IS COMING UP ON THE 11TH.

I HAD THREE PAGES OF NOTES AND FORGOT THAT MOST OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS IN THE PROCLAMATION. SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU ON A COUPLE OF POINTS.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING AND GIVING TO A NEW

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WE'RE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE OUR THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF BEING AN INCORPORATED NONPROFIT HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY. SO SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

YOU, AS CITIZENS OF PALM BAY OR ANYWHERE, CAN HELP STOP HUMAN TRAFFICKING IF YOU CAN REDUCE THE VULNERABILITY AND THE SUPPLY.

THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO FIGHT HUMAN TRAFFICKING, FROM PREVENTION TO TRAUMA INFORMED CARE AND SERVICES, AND WE PROVIDE THE WHOLE SPECTRUM.

BUT MY APPEAL TO YOU TONIGHT IS TO POUR INTO YOUR CHILDREN.

TO INCREASE THEIR VALUE BY LETTING THEM KNOW HOW VALUABLE THEY ARE, THAT THEY HAVE A PURPOSE. TAKE THE TIME WHEN THEY WANT TO PLAY A GAME WITH YOU.

PUT DOWN YOUR PHONE AND SPEAK VALUE INTO THEIR LIVES BY THE TIME THAT YOU CAN SOW INTO THEM. AND THEN THAT LETS THEM KNOW THEY'RE HEARD.

THEIR LOVED.

THEY'RE VALUED AND THEY'RE LESS APT TO BE OPEN TO THE EXPLOITATION OF THOSE THAT ARE ONLINE TEXTING THEM, ASKING THEM TO SCOOCH OFF INTO A SECRET PRIVATE ROOM.

OR SEND.

NOT TO GOOD PHOTOGRAPHS THAT ARE EVENTUALLY USED FOR SEXTORTION, BUT YOU CAN DO IT FOR FREE. YOU CAN TAKE THAT TIME TO POUR INTO YOUR CHILDREN.

IF WE CAN REDUCE THE VULNERABILITY, I HAVE A TWO GENERATION GOAL FOR A NEW BY TWO GENERATIONS. I WANT NO VULNERABILITY WITH OUR CHILDREN THAT THEY ALL SAY, TALK TO THE HAND WHEN SOMEBODY TRIES TO APPROACH THEM.

AND THEY'RE NOT OPEN TO BE EXPLOITED.

KNOW WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING ONLINE.

KNOW WHO THEIR FRIENDS ARE.

WATCH THEM WHEN THEY'RE PLAYING OUTSIDE.

KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND YOU CAN HELP STOP THIS.

FLORIDA GOT A RATE OF SEA THIS YEAR.

WE'RE ALL THE STATES ARE GRADED THREE YEARS, ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO IN TWENTY NINETEEN, WHEN I STARTED IN MY ORGANIZATION, I'VE BEEN IN THE FIGHT FOR EIGHT YEARS, STARTED THE ORGANIZATION. THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD A SCORE OF A.

IT'S REDUCED TO SEA AND WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL OF THE REASONS WHY YOU CAN BE A PART OF HELPING THAT, AS AS THE MAYOR STATED WITH LEGISLATION, CAN BE AMPED UP PROSECUTIONS.

WE NEED TO SEE A RISE IN.

THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT IS UNREPORTED BECAUSE VICTIMS DON'T IDENTIFY.

WHERE THEY IDENTIFY 10, 20 YEARS LATER.

A LITTLE KID DOESN'T KNOW THEY'RE BEING VICTIMIZED BY A DAD, MOM, GRANDPA, WHOMEVER, IT'S LATER IN LIFE THAT WE FIND THAT OUT.

SO ALL OF US CAN WORK TOGETHER.

I AM I DO, SIR.

BREVARD COUNTY, I SERVE ALL OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE HAVE LEGISLATION IN FLORIDA THAT SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING THAT HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS, THEY CAN BE EXPUNGED IF THEY CAN BE PROVED THAT THEY WERE OBTAINED WHILE BEING TRAFFICKED COMPLETELY EXPUNGED.

AND THEN I DO REPUTATION CONTROL SO THAT THEY CAN TOTALLY GET A FRESH START, WHICH IS AMAZING. AND THE LAST 48 HOURS I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT THAT I NOW HAVE TWO HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO US, ONE FOR EMERGENCY SAFE SHELTER.

AND HOPEFULLY THE SECOND ONE WILL BE AN ACTUAL SAFE HOME THAT THEY CAN STAY A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE RESOURCES AND THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING MADE AVAILABLE. FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME.

MY WEBSITE IS W W-W-WHAT UN NEW INTERNATIONAL DOT ORG, IF YOU CAN REMEMBER.

EIGHTY FOUR HOPE ANEW IS MY PHONE NUMBER AND I WOULD LOVE TO CHAT WITH ANYONE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HELP DONATE WHATEVER.

YES, PLEASE.

SO IN THE MEANTIME, PLEASE POUR INTO YOUR CHILDREN.

LET'S REDUCE THE VULNERABILITY SO YOU CAN PUT ME OUT OF A JOB.

THANK YOU. SO.

JUST WANT TO MENTION ONE THING, MA'AM.

LABOR, THERE ARE HUMAN TRAFFICKERS THAT ARE LABOR VICTIMS AS WELL.

OK. THANK YOU.

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[PRESENTATIONS]

TONIGHT WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT WHO ARE GOING TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ABOUT SOME REALLY EXCITING, POSITIVE WORK THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN OUR CITY.

IT LOOKS LIKE BART JENKINS IS COMING UP, SO I'LL LET HIM DO ALL THE INTRODUCTIONS FOR US.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, RESIDENTS OF THE GREAT CITY OF PALM BAY.

MY NAME IS BART JENKINS, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS MANAGER, NINE THOUSAND ONE ELLIS ROAD.

TONIGHT IT IS OUR PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE TO YOU OUR PLANS TO PROCEED WITH OUR STORM SECURE UNDERGROUND PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT INVOLVES REMOVING HARD TO ACCESS LINES AND RESIDENCES BACKYARDS AND CONVERTING THEM TO UNDERGROUND SERVICE IN THE FRONT OF THE RESIDENCES.

THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF POWER OUTAGES DURING HURRICANES IN PALM BAY WAS FROM TERESE IN THE REAR OF CUSTOMERS HOMES, VEGETATION AND OTHER WIND BLOWN DEBRIS COMING INTO CONTACT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD OVERHEAD POWER LINES AND EQUIPMENT.

WE ARE WORKING TO HELP FIX THAT PROBLEM AND TO IMPROVE YOUR SERVICE IN GOOD WEATHER AND BAD BY INSTALLING POWER LINES UNDERGROUND IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS PROJECT WILL BE THE LARGEST UNDERGROUND CONVERSION PROJECT IN OUR SYSTEM.

WE COVER FORTY THREE COUNTIES, THE GREAT CITY OF PALM BAY LARGEST PROJECT IN OUR SYSTEM.

PLEASE NOTE THAT EVEN AFTER WE CONVERT THE LINES TO UNDERGROUND, WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE AN OUTAGE AS NOTHING CAN PREVENT THE DESTRUCTIVE FORCES FROM MOTHER NATURE. I ASK ALL CUSTOMERS ALWAYS BE PREPARED DURING STORM SEASON AT FPL, WE CONSTANTLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES.

OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CUSTOMERS WITH CLEAN, AFFORDABLE AND RELIABLE SERVICES. AND AGAIN, WE PARTNER WITH PALM BAY VISION TO MAKE THIS CITY AN EVEN GREATER PLACE TO WORK, LIVE AND RAISE A FAMILY.

HURRAH. ALL RIGHT.

HURRAH. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALL MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE WITH ME HERE TONIGHT, WE HAVE KENT SUAREZ, SUE WILLIAMS, AMY BONILLA AND NOW TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS OF THIS GREAT PROJECT.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OUR PROJECT MANAGER, JACOB BENATAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, BART.

IT'S GREAT TO BE IN THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

WELL, LIKE BART SAID, MY NAME IS JACOB NADER AND I'D LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT OUR STORM SECURE UNDERGROUND PROGRAM.

IT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT INITIATIVE TAKEN ON BY FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY. SO FIRST, I'D LIKE TO JUST GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF JARGON, TALK ABOUT THE TYPES OF POWER LINES WE HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM AND IN PALM BAY, TALK ABOUT OUR HARDENING INITIATIVES PAST CURRENT AND FUTURE.

WHAT THE STORM SECURE UNDERGROUND PROGRAM VALUE IS, WHAT IT WILL BRING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE IN PALM BAY THUS FAR AND ALSO OUR PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, AND THEN ALSO WHAT OUR SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE, DESIGN AND OUTREACH AND CONSTRUCTION.

SO FIRST, UNDERSTANDING POWER LINES, THE ONE ON THE LEFT WE HAVE HERE IS OUR MAIN POWER LINES OR WHAT WE CALL FEEDER.

THIS IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR DISTRIBUTION GRID.

THESE ARE MAIN LINES FEEDING ANYWHERE FROM 1500 TO 3000 CUSTOMERS.

THEY'RE FEEDING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE HOSPITALS, POLICE STATIONS, SCHOOLS.

AND YOU SEE THEM MOSTLY INACCESSIBLE AREAS ALONG ROADWAYS.

THE OTHER TYPE IS NEIGHBORHOOD POWER LINES, RESIDENTIAL LINES THAT WE CALL LATERALS RUNNING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, USUALLY IN THE BACKYARDS AND INACCESSIBLE AREAS.

LET'S GO BACK TO 2005, 2006, AFTER THE DEVASTATING HURRICANES FPL CREATED INITIATIVE TO HARDEN ALL OF OUR MAIN POWER LINES HARDENING INFRASTRUCTURE, INSTALLING STRONGER POLES, CREATING A MORE RESILIENT SYSTEM.

THAT PROGRAM IS ABOUT TO WRAP UP HERE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, SO OUR ATTENTION IS NOW FOCUSING TO OUR RESIDENTIAL LINES.

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WHEN A STORM BLOWS THROUGH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S TAKING OUT THESE LINES.

THEY'RE IN AN INACCESSIBLE AREAS.

IT'S HARD TO GET TRUCKS BACK THERE TO DO THIS RESTORATION.

THERE'S LINES, THERE'S PALM FRONDS BLOWING IN THE LINES THAT'S CAUSING DAY TO DAY OUTAGES. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE STORM SECURE UNDERGROUND PROGRAM IS CONVERTING THEM UNDERGROUND, AND WE'RE ALSO BRINGING THEM OUT TO ACCESSIBLE LOCATIONS, NOT ONLY OUR UNDERGROUND LINES MORE RESILIENT DURING STORMS. IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE GENERAL RESTORATION RESOURCES THAT COME DOWN AFTER THE DEVASTATION HAS ROLLED THROUGH TO FOCUS THEIR EFFORTS.

OTHER PLACES TO THE REST OF THE CITY THAT HAS OVERHEAD LINES OR TO OTHER HARDER HIT PLACES. SO NOT ONLY IS THIS GREAT FOR STORMS, BUT EVEN THE OTHER 50 50 ONE WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR WHENEVER WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCING A HURRICANE.

DAY TO DAY RELIABILITY IS 50 PERCENT BETTER WITH UNDERGROUND LINES.

SO WHAT HAVE WE DONE SO FAR IN PALM BAY OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE CONVERTED EIGHT MILES, FOUR HUNDRED TWENTY TWO CUSTOMERS AND 16 OF OUR RESIDENTIAL LINES TO UNDERGROUND.

SO THAT'S NICE, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER.

OUR PLAN IS TO CONVERT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR MILES OF POWER LINES AND EIGHTY THREE HUNDRED CUSTOMERS TO UNDERGROUND.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT IF YOU CAN, THE AREAS SHADED IN GREEN, ORANGE AND PURPLE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE DO HAVE PLANNED FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO WHAT IS OUR PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WELL, IT'S A YEAR TO YEAR PROCESS, IDEALLY YEAR ONE IS DESIGN AND OUTREACH, AND YEAR TWO IS CONSTRUCTION.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE OUTREACH PHASE OF THE PROGRAM.

SO FAR WE'VE SENT OF THOSE 80 300 CUSTOMERS, WE'VE SENT AROUND 600 LETTERS AND EMAILS TO CUSTOMERS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE REALLY WORKING HARD TO HAVE SOLID COMMUNICATION, NOT ONLY WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHERE WE'LL BE WORKING, BUT ALSO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING TO DIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM THE PROGRAM ITSELF.

WE'RE GIVING THEM A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT THAT THEY CAN TALK TO THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN AND OUTREACH PROCESS, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE END OF CONSTRUCTION WHENEVER WE'RE PUTTING THAT LAST PIECE OF SOD ON THE GROUND AND WALKING AWAY WITH THE FINAL PRODUCT.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE CUSTOMERS ARE WELL INFORMED BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT NOTHING BEATS A GOOD PROJECT FROM START TO FINISH LIKE TRANSPARENCY WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS.

MOVING ON FROM THAT, WE WILL BE ASKING FOR EASEMENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATIONAL PACKETS THAT WE'D BE GIVING OUT TO THEM.

EACH PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BE TALKING TO THEM IN PERSON IS GOING TO BE GIVING THEM A SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO LIKE WHEN I'M GIVING YOU RIGHT NOW AND THE PRECEDING SLIDES, THEY'LL SEE VISUALS, DETAILS AND THE SCHEDULE OF THE PROGRAM.

IN ADDITION, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM.

WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UNDERGROUND LINES, HANDHOLDS THAT ARE FLUSHED TO GRADE.

AND SO WE NEED TO WORK WITH YOUR TEAM ON PERMITS.

I'M HOPING IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, I CAN HAVE A FEW SAMPLE PERMITS SUBMITTED TO THE TEAM SO WE CAN DISCUSS CONCERNS THAT YOU'LL HAVE.

SO THIS IS A VISUAL OF WHAT A BEFORE AND AFTER WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE STANDARD HOME.

UH, STARTING ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE OVERHEAD LINES WILL BE TAKEN AWAY.

WHAT WAS ONCE AN OVERHEAD TRANSFORMER THAT WAS IN AN ACCESSIBLE AREA IS NOW MOVING TO A FRONT OF ACCESSIBLE PAD MOUNT TRANSFORMER.

THE BEAUTY THERE IS, IT'S ACCESSIBLE IF THERE IS MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT RESTORATION THAT'S REQUIRED. NOBODY HAS TO GO INTO ANYONE'S BACKYARD.

NO ONE HAS TO WAKE ANYONE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO TRY AND RESTORE THE POWER.

SO THIS TRANSFORMER IS GOING TO FEED IT CAN FEED ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FIVE CUSTOMERS, SO AN EASEMENT THAT WILL BE ASKING FOR WILL ONLY BE ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE OR FIVE CUSTOMERS. IF THE FIRST PERSON THAT WE'RE NOT.

FIRST PERSON, THAT'S THE IDEAL LOCATION TO GET IT IS NOT RECEPTIVE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO A NEIGHBOR.

SO MOVING FROM THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'LL BE TAKING THE UNDERGROUND SERVICE AND CONNECTING IT TO THE HOME VIA WHAT WE'RE CALLING A JUNCTION BOX.

IT'S A BOX THAT'S MOUNTED TO THE SIDE OF THE HOME AND THE BEAUTY THERE IS.

WE'RE ABLE TO CONVERT EXISTING OVERHEAD SERVICE CUSTOMERS TO UNDERGROUND BY TAKING THEIR EXISTING OVERHEAD AND MAKING THAT CONNECTION RIGHT THERE IN THE BOX.

ALSO, ANOTHER THING YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT IF THERE ARE JOINT USE FACILITIES ON THE POLE LIKE AT&T, COMCAST, THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STAY UP.

WE'VE HAD LONG TALKS AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL WITH THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE ON THE POLES TO TRY AND GO UNDERGROUND WITH US TO SHARE IN THE LABOR COSTS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT RECEPTIVE. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF OUR BORING OR OUR CONSTRUCTION DIGGING PROCESS.

THE KEY HERE IS ITS MINIMAL IMPACT.

WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE THREE TO SIX FOOT WIDE TRENCH RUNNING ALONG THE ENTIRE ROAD IN PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS, DESTROYING BUSHES.

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HERE'S A PICTURE OF IT IN REAL LIFE, RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT, IT'S A SLIGHTLY BIG MACHINE, BUT IT'S MOSTLY USED FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY WORK.

WHENEVER WE'RE DOING ANY SORT OF BORING IN A RESIDENCE, A PREMISE IT'S WE HAVE ANOTHER TYPE OF BORING. IT'S CALLED MISSILE BORING FOR MORE NARROW SPACE WHERE YOU HAVE TO KIND OF THREAD THE NEEDLE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE JUNCTION BOX RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE METER. THAT'S THE MEANS OF CONNECTION.

THERE'S THE TRANSFORMER, SO IT WILL BE IN A 10 FOOT BY 10 FOOT EASEMENT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM THE CUSTOMERS, BUT REALLY IT'S ABOUT A FOUR FOOT BY FOUR.

IF IT SITS ON A FOUR FOOT BY FOUR FOOT CONCRETE PAD, USUALLY IN THE CORNER, UNLESS THE CUSTOMER REQUESTS.

ELSEWHERE, HANDHOLDS WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY'LL BE FLUSHED TO THE GROUND.

AND THIS IS A FINAL PRODUCT, WHAT USED TO HAVE OVERHEAD FPL LINES THAT YOU COULD SEE OVER THE HOUSES ARE NO LONGER THERE.

YOU'VE GOT A GREEN BOX ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT FROM MY VIEW, IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT BAD AND IT AGAIN CREATES A RELIABLE SERVICE, GREATLY IMPROVED RELIABLE SERVICE AND INFRASTRUCTURE HARDENING THAT WILL SEE US THROUGH FOR YEARS TO COME.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, IF YOU ARE PART OF OUR PROGRAM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING WITH YOU AND MORE DETAIL.

MY NAME IS JAKE ABINADER.

FEEL FREE. I'M SURE BART CAN COMMUNICATE OUT THE THE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU DO NEED SOMEONE BART AND SUZANNE OUR GREAT POINTS OF CONTACT FOR YOUR TEAM, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW FROM BOTH THE COUNCIL OR THE AUDIENCE.

JACOB, THANK YOU.

THANK FPL. QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO. I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THAT.

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION.

BUT COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JACOB AND F.B.L? OF A COMMON BAILEY MAYOR OR AS YOU WERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING PALM BAY, AND THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE HONORED THAT YOU ARE GOING TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND. OH, I THINK OUR LINES, I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF DISASTERS IN MY LIFETIME.

SAFETY, THE SAFETY OF PUTTING IT ON THE GROUND.

IT'S HUGE IMPORTANT, CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT? YES, SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, FPL HAS A VERY ROBUST SAFETY PROGRAM.

WE HAVE. SAFETY, SAFETY, INVESTMENTS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, ALL OF OUR VENDORS HAVE TO ABIDE BY OUR SAFETY PROTOCOLS.

WE LIVE BY THE FIVE GUIDING PRINCIPLES WHICH WE HAVE ATTACHED TO OUR ID BADGE WHENEVER WE WALK AROUND IN TERMS OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

WE'LL HAVE MOTT OUT THERE ON ALL MAJOR ROADWAYS AND IN COORDINATION WITH THE PERMITTING FOLKS WHO DICTATE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE CONSTRUCTION CREWS SAFE, BUT ALSO PEDESTRIANS AND CARS CAN SAFELY MOVE THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

ALL HOLES WILL BE COVERED PRIOR TO END OF DAY, IF NOT COMPLETELY FILLED IN OUR CREWS OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE WEARING THE PROPER PPE.

THE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT THAT'S HARD TAIL BOOTS EACH RATED.

THEY'LL BE WEARING SAFETY VESTS, HARD HATS, SAFETY GLASSES, WORKSAFE GLOVES.

WE HAVE A VERY EXTENSIVE SAFETY PROGRAM.

OUR OUR CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH.

OUR PRODUCTION LEADS, OUR PEOPLES ARE GOING OUT THERE AND DOING SAFETY ASSESSMENTS EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

WE HAVE MONTHLY SAFETY CALLS.

IT'S WE TAKE SAFETY VERY SERIOUSLY AT FPL.

WE WANT EVERYONE TO RETURN HOME THE SAME WAY THAT THEY CAME TO WORK.

AND I BELIEVE THAT.

LET ME LET ME ASK YOU THIS IF SOMEONE WHAT WOULD BE THE PROTOCOL? PEOPLE START DIGGING IN THEIR BACKYARD AT NIGHT TO DEEP IN ONE OF THE POWER LINES WAS IF SOMEBODY HIT ONE OF OUR YES, OK, SO FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IF THEY ARE DIGGING ON THEIR PROPERTY TO CALL SUNSHINE EIGHT ONE ONE.

THAT IS A NATIONWIDE LOCATES PROGRAM THAT HAS ALL OTHER UTILITIES IN THEIR SYSTEM.

IT NOTIFIES THE FACILITIES AND THEY WILL GO OUT AND MARK UP ANYTHING THAT'S IN YOUR BACKYARD AND YOUR FRONT YARD WITHIN, LIKE A 50 FOOT RADIUS AROUND WHERE YOU'RE DIGGING.

SO I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT TO ANY CUSTOMER NOW.

IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN AND THEY AND THEY HIT, THAT'S THAT'S A BAD DEAL, IT'S YOU KNOW. RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, THE PEOPLE, THE CUSTOMERS THAT HAPPEN EVENTUALLY, AND I'M QUITE SURE IT HAPPENED ALREADY.

OK. I MEAN, IF IF THEY DO HIT IT, I MEAN, I WOULD JUST CAUTION.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT BEING SAFE IF YOU'RE DIGGING ON YOUR PROPERTY.

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IT'S HITTING ELECTRIC FACILITIES UNDERGROUND.

IT'S ALSO IN CONDUIT.

SO YOU WOULD REALLY HAVE TO DRIVE THAT SUCKER HARD IF YOU'RE GOING TO PENETRATE THE CONDUIT AND ALSO THE INSULATING SHIELD AROUND THE ENERGIZED WIRE.

WE, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT 24 INCHES DEEP ON CUSTOMER PROPERTY, MINIMUM 30, SIX INCHES DEEP MINIMUM AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AND WHENEVER THAT CONDUIT DOES COME UP BELOW GRADE, WHENEVER WE'RE IF I GO BACK TO THE SLIDE AND IT GOES UP THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO CONNECT TO THE JUNCTION BOX, THAT'S SCHEDULE 80 CONDUIT SO MUCH THICKER, FEEL RELATIVELY CONFIDENT THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE INSTALLED IN A SAFE MANNER WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL BE SAFE, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T CALL SUNSHINE EIGHT ONE ONE. THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT, SIR. THANK YOU.

JACOB, HOW WERE THESE COMMUNITIES SELECTED? BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO? ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO EXPAND BEYOND THOSE THREE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED? YEAH. SO YOU ALL WERE SELECTED BECAUSE YOU'RE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

NO TRACKING YOU THERE.

I'M SAYING WHAT QUALIFIED THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS.

SO THERE ARE THREE VARIABLES THAT WERE PSC APPROVED, WHICH IS OUR REGULATORY AGENCY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, ANALYTICS DROVE HOW WE SELECTED THE PRIORITY LIST THAT WAS OUTAGES RELATED AND NAMED STORM EVENTS.

THAT WAS DAY TO DAY RELIABILITY METRICS AND VEGETATION RELATED OUTAGES.

SO A COMBINATION OF THOSE THREE VARIABLES DROVE OUR PRIORITY LIST.

AND YES, WE DO HAVE PLANS TO EXPAND.

I LOVE TELLING YOU ALL NOW THAT THIS IS THE BIGGEST INVESTMENT THE STORM SEWER UNDERGROUND PROGRAM HAS MADE IN ANY SINGLE ONE MUNICIPALITY, BUT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE NEXT YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE YEAR AFTER THAT.

WE'RE AN EARLY PROGRAM.

WE STARTED IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND THIS IS GOING TO BE DECADES LONG.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HARDEN ALL OF OUR LATERAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FPL TERRITORY.

WE'LL CONTINUE THE GROWTH HERE AND THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

AS YOU CONTINUE TO EXPAND COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION, SIR.

THANK YOU. YEAH, A COUPLE.

A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'LL START WITH A VERY POSITIVE COMMENT.

I'M VERY EXCITED. THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT PROJECT.

I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY, VERY FORTUNATE.

124 MILES.

SO THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE HAVE EVERY SINGLE TIME WE GOT HIT BY HURRICANE, WHEN WHY DOES FPL IS GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE POWER? I MEAN, POWER OUTAGE DOESN'T GO AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, WEEKS IN SOME CASES, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO THIS IS GREAT.

THAT IS POSITIVE, THAT THAT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

NOW MY CONCERN.

IS THAT THAT'S A MAJOR COST TO THE COMPANY? RIGHT? I KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND BECAUSE I JUST FINISHED A PROJECT THIS PAST SUMMER.

I HAD THE OPTION TO GO OVERHEAD OR UNDERGROUND.

I CHOSE UNDERGROUND.

GUESS WHAT? I GOT A BILL FOR IT.

I'D PAY FOR IT. SO IT WAS QUITE A LOT OF IT.

THEN YOU KNOW WHAT I EXPECTED? SO THERE GOES.

MY CONCERN IS THAT GOING TO BE PASSED ON TO THE CONSUMERS OVER TIME? HOW DOES THAT WORK AND TALKED US INTO THAT BECAUSE IT'S AS GREAT AS IT IS OF A PROJECT? IS THE CONSUMER IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT OVER OVER TIME.

THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS ON HOW IT IS BUILT INTO THE RATE. I KNOW THAT IT IS A PSC APPROVED PROGRAM THAT'S FUNDED PROBABLY VERY SIMILARLY TO WHAT THE FEEDER HARDENING PROGRAM DID, WHICH IS THE PROGRAM WE STARTED IN AFTER 06 HURRICANES TO HARDEN ALL OF OUR MAIN CIRCUIT LINES.

I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU A GOOD ANSWER, UNFORTUNATELY.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M AN ENGINEER, PROJECT MANAGER.

I I CAN ABSOLUTELY GET BACK TO YOU AND HAVE YOU A GOOD ANSWER.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS LIKE YOURSELF WHO CONVERTED THEIR SERVICE UNDERGROUND AND MAYBE YOUR HOUSE IS IN ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH HAVING A NEW PROJECT GOES A NEW PROJECT. I HAD THE OPTION TO DO BOTH TO DO EITHER, EITHER OR, BUT I CHOSE TO DO ON THE GROUND. I UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT.

GOTCHA. BUT I WAS QUITE SURPRISED.

THE THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.

BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR FPL RIGHT TO SHARE.

YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A COST, WHICH I BELIEVE THERE IS.

SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO BE TRANSPARENT AND UNDERSTOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, LET THE PUBLIC KNOW AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW PERSONALLY.

ABSOLUTELY. I'M YEAH, I'M SURE IT'S AVAILABLE.

I'LL FIND IT IF IT'S NOT ALREADY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

WE ARE A REGULATED UTILITY.

WE HAVE THOSE RATES FIXED, I THINK USUALLY THROUGH THREE YEARS THAT IS APPROVED BY THE

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THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

APPRECIATE IT, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE WE GOING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT BEFORE I DO, I'VE GOT JAMES

[PUBLIC HEARINGS (Part 1 of 2)]

SO JAMES, WE WE VOTED TO CONTINUE THIS ONTO OUR NEXT MEETING, SO WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING ITEM NUMBER 14 TODAY.

HUH. WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM, SO IT WOULD BE BEST SERVED IF YOU COME THE DAY THAT WE DISCUSS IT.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC.

YEAH, I CAN CALL SIR.

I CAN CALL YOU UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT STAND FAST.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN NORTHWEST PALM BAY.

YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING IT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN KRASSNER STREET.

THEY HAVE THOSE UNDERGROUND PIPES ALREADY RUN DOWN KRASSNER STREET.

AND TODAY THEY RAN THOUSANDS OF FEET BEHIND MY HOME.

MEET KRASSNER STRAIGHT, SO AND THEY ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

KEEP IN MIND, I BELIEVE WE'RE WE SENT THAT FOR THE 20TH FEBRUARY 17TH.

TWENTY TWENTY TWO, SIR WILL BE THE MEETING THAT YEAR.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

FOR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WE'VE GOT PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE A RENT OLSZEWSKI? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT, BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.

I WOULD LIKE TO LEAD WITH GRATITUDE, AND UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO JOIN YOU GUYS IN PERSON IN THE DECEMBER MEETINGS.

DON'T WORRY, I WAS WATCHING AT HOME, BUT I'M A LITTLE BEHIND IN MY GRATITUDE, SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY.

ON CITY STAFF AND THE COUNCIL INVOLVED IN THE GREAT HOLIDAY PARADE, I HAD THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A JUDGE AS PART OF THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD TO JUDGE THE PARADE AND THE KIDS OUT THERE, AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC AND A LOT OF GRATITUDE TO MY FAMILY FOR SHARING ME WITH THE CITY AS WE KIND OF SPLIT TIME AS THEY WERE WATCHING AND I WAS TAKING CARE OF THE THE JUDGING DUTIES, IF YOU WILL.

ALSO, SOME GRATITUDE TO THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I GOT THE UNIQUE EXPERIENCE TO SEE JUST HOW FAST THEY DO RESPOND TO A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT.

I WAS WITNESS TO AN ACCIDENT ON MITTON AND AMERICANA INVOLVING A MOTORCYCLE.

I WAS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE MOTORCYCLE AND WATCHED THE MAN BE LAUNCHED UPON THE STREET, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND RAN TO HIS AID CONTACTING 9-1-1.

AND THE WAY THAT THEY THEY GOT TO THE SCENE QUICKLY MITIGATED THE SITUATION.

VERY RUSH HOUR SITUATION OF FIVE THIRTY SIX O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT INTO ACTION. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RIGHT ON THE SCENE TOOK CARE OF THAT GENTLEMAN AND I'M GLAD TO REPORT THAT HE IS OK AND THANK GOODNESS.

ALSO, A LITTLE BIT OF GRATITUDE TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, I COMPLAINED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BAN ON MALABAR AND ELGIN, AND APPARENTLY THE CONTRACTOR CAME BACK OUT AND PATCH THINGS UP.

REAL NICE, EVEN TIGHTEN THE WIRE.

SO FANTASTIC.

SO THAT'S IT FOR GRATITUDE.

DO HAVE TO GET INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES HERE, AND I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT BOARD THAT I SERVE ON, AND THAT'S THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, AND I'M GOING TO TAKE A PAGE OUT OF MY FRIEND BILL BATTENS BOOK AND USE A VISUAL AID.

SO THIS ENCYCLOPEDIA HERE IS WHAT I WAS GIVEN MY FIRST MEETING OF THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD. I'VE DIGESTED ALL THE INFORMATION IN THIS, BUT THIS CONTAINS IS DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE MARCH, APRIL AND MAY TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BUDGETARY NEEDS THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS HAD.

I'VE DIGESTED THIS INFORMATION AS PART OF THAT CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE BOARD HASN'T MET SINCE JULY SINCE BEFORE THE FINAL BUDGET WAS TAKEN CARE OF. AND SINCE THEN, AS WE ALL KNOW AT THE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE DIPPED INTO THE RESERVES AND ALLOCATED THREE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH LATER ON WE'LL SEE WAS CORRECTED AT THREE POINT THREE OF UN DESIGNATED FUNDS BALANCE.

TONIGHT, WE PLAN TO HOPEFULLY ALLOCATE ONE POINT NINE FOUR TWO MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE POINT THREE SIX THREE MILLION, DRAWING DOWN THE DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE BY FORTY TWO PERCENT. AND THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO MEET.

HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO OUR FELLOW CITIZENS ABOUT THAT.

HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO ADVISE YOU AS A COUNCIL ON WHAT DIRECTION TO HEAD WITH FORTY TWO PERCENT OF OUR POSSIBLE SPENDABLE MONEY.

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IMPLORE YOUR EMPLOYEES TO MEET AS BOARD MR. MAYOR, I'M YOUR APPOINTEE.

DON'T WORRY, I'M THERE.

THAT BEING SAID, WITH SHORT TIME, I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE FROM PUBLIC WORKS ON THE PROJECT ON EMERSON. IT SEEMS TO BE CONTINUALLY DELAYED AND THOSE THOSE CITIZENS DESERVE AN ANSWER WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE FINISHED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS.

THANK YOU, RANDALL.

THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL, AND I'VE BEEN JUST WANTING TO TALK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

WE'VE GOT CITIZENS TODAY AND COUNCILMAN FELIX.

YOU'VE BEEN A STAUNCH PROPONENT OF ENCOURAGING OUR CITIZENS TO TAKE PART IN THESE CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARDS, AND WE DO HAVE A CORE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ACTUALLY SERVE ON A CONTINUAL BASIS THAT ARE PASSIONATE.

AND YET WE WE LIMIT THEM TO TWO BOARDS ONLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF, TERRY, IF THAT'S A POLICY THAT WE CAN EXPAND TO PERHAPS INCREASE IT TO THREE BOARDS.

I WANTED TO GET THE FEEDBACK BECAUSE WHAT'S OCCURRING IS THERE'S THERE'S PASSIONATE CITIZENS THAT WOULD SERVE ON AN ADDITIONAL BOARD AND YET THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THEY'RE HANDCUFFED AND SAYING I CAN ONLY SERVE ON TWO BOARDS.

I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK SINCE RANDALL JUST BROUGHT THAT UP AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT PUBLIC WORKS.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, GENTLEMEN? SINCE THIS IS FRESH ON MY MIND, I'LL START WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN.

AW, THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS THIS IS VERY THIS IS A GOOD ONE.

I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

WELL, THE WORLD IS GOING DOWN FROM I'VE READ SOMEWHERE HOW I DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE, BUT THIS IS CONSISTENTLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING DOWN.

PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING ENGAGED, PEOPLE ARE NOT IN THEIR CIVIC DUTIES IN SO MANY WAYS, ESPECIALLY SERVING, GIVING, GIVING, GIVING OF THEIR TIME UNLESS THERE IS A PROBLEM.

PEOPLE START COMING AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY COME AND COMPLAIN AND SO ON AND MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD. BUT IN TERMS OF SERVICE, WE'VE SEEN LESS AND LESS PEOPLE.

AND I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT IF IT'S JUST TO INCREASE IT TO AT LEAST THREE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A CORE GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT CONSISTENTLY RELENTLESSLY SERVING ON DIFFERENT BOARDS. AND I'VE SEEN THEM IN THE IN THE ROOM AS WELL.

THEY NEVER MISS A MEETING, AND SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT TO INCREASE IT TO THREE INSTEAD OF TWO. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN? YES, MAYOR.

I SAID IN THIS AUDIENCE WHEN I WAS.

UH, NOT A CANDIDATE.

AND I REMEMBER I RECALL YOU COULD.

ASK THE CLERK AT THE LAST COUNCIL MADE IT A POLICY.

WHEN I THINK DAVID ZANARDI WAS THE DEPUTY MAYOR MADE IT A POLICY TO APPOINT THE COUNCIL, APPOINT HAVE DIRECT APPOINTMENT AND ALSO LIMITED TO TWO.

OF BOARDS, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK AND SEE IF WHAT A POLICY.

THE PROBLEM IS.

WE ALL SERVE ON THIS DAIS.

AND THE CITIZENS WHO ARE ON THESE ADVISORY BOARDS SERVES TOO.

WE DON'T NEED WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND SERVE.

AND I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE.

I LOVE SERVICE.

BEEN DOING SERVICE ALL MY LIFE, AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO DO IT TODAY.

I HIT THE GRAVE SERVING SOME TYPE OF CAPACITY, OUR FELLOW MAN AND OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTRY. I BELIEVE IN SERVICE AND I BELIEVE MAYOR THAT WE SHOULDN'T HINDER SOMEBODY FROM SERVING. THEY WANT TO SERVE ON THREE BOARDS OR BOARDS.

FIVE BOARDS. LET THEM SERVE.

THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE QUORUM ISSUES, SO I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD BECAUSE I ALSO SPOKE TO MR. OLSZEWSKI THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T HAD MEETINGS SINCE JULY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO IF THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE MEETINGS AND PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW UP, THEN THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PENALIZED FOR IT.

WELL, COUNTING AGAINST THEM FOR SAY, BECAUSE YOU ONLY GET THREE, I BELIEVE, BEFORE YOU'RE REMOVED FROM THE BOARD.

I BELIEVE IT IS THREE CONSECUTIVE OR FIVE WITHIN THE YEAR, TYPICALLY SO SO IF THEY HAD HAD MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY MEETINGS OR SO ON AND SO FORTH, THOSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE

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SO NOW HERE WE ARE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPENINGS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THE MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED.

I KNOW IT TAKES AWAY FROM STAFF TO COME HERE FOR 15 20 MINUTES IF NOBODY SHOWS UP, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHO'S INVOLVED AND WHO'S NOT INVOLVED.

AND IT'S NOT JUST DELAYED AND, YOU KNOW, MONTH TO MONTH TO MONTH.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF HAVING THE MEETINGS, AND IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, THEY DON'T SHOW UP.

SO RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT COMMITMENT IS WHAT I'M HEARING, RIGHT? AND SO THE QUORUM.

SO I GUESS THE QUESTION TERRY NOW LIES ON YOU WHERE YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS OF OF COUNSEL, WHERE WE WOULD EXPAND THAT TO AT LEAST THREE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH.

TO MAKE THAT POLICY CHANGE SO THAT WE CAN THOSE CITIZENS THAT ARE FERVENTLY SERVING AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE, WE DON'T HANDCUFF THEM.

YES, WE CAN PREPARE THAT FOR THE NEXT AGENDA.

IT WILL BE A POLICY CHANGE.

SO IT WILL JUST GO ON YOUR CURRENT OR YOUR NEXT AGENDA UNDER TYPICALLY NEW BUSINESS OR IT COULD BE CONSENT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A A WAY FORWARD GENTLEMAN, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO ENTERTAIN THAT.

MADAM SHERMAN, WOULD YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ON THE PUBLIC WORKS QUESTION FROM MR. OLSZEWSKI? I ACTUALLY WAS NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THAT TONIGHT, SO I WILL DEFINITELY GET SOME INFORMATION BACK ON ON THAT PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON PASTOR KINDERGARTEN, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN CONNOLLY.

KEN DELGADO, ONE FIVE FOR ANGELA ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY, I GUESS, IN THE WORLD NOW. I THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNITED STATES, BUT WHO'S GOING TO OBJECT WITH EXPANSION? I JUST WANT TO BE IN THE STARTING OF THE NEW YEAR, BRINGING OUT TWO TO MAYBE THREE SCRIPTURES THAT I THOUGHT WERE WERE IMPORTANT AND HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT IN MY LIFE AND IN THE RAISING OF MY CHILDREN AND AND MINISTERING AS A AS A PASTOR.

ONE IS FOUNDED IN PROVERBS CHAPTER 18 IN VERSE 21, WHICH SIMPLY SAYS DEATH AND LIFE ARE IN THE POWER OF THE TONGUE.

AND THEY THAT LOVE IT WILL EAT ITS FRUIT.

THE POWER OF WORDS POWER WHAT WE SAY TO EACH OTHER.

WE HAVE ONLY TWO OPTIONS WE CAN SPEAK LIFE INTO A SITUATION.

OR WE CAN SPEAK DEATH INTO A SITUATION, AND YET IT FORMS THE DIRECTION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING. JESUS REITERATES THIS ABOUT WORDS IN JOHN CHAPTER SIX AND VERSE 63, WHEN HE SIMPLY SAYS THIS IF I CAN GO THERE QUICKLY.

HE SAYS IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT GIVES LIFE, BUT AND THE FLESH PROPHETS NOTHING.

THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK.

THEY ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE.

THAT IS TO SAY, EVERY WORD THAT JESUS CHRIST SPEAKS DOES NOTHING BUT BRING LIFE.

THERE'S LIFE IN HIS WORDS.

AND WE SHOULD BE IMITATING HIM IN THE SENSE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, IT SHOULD ALWAYS, ALWAYS BE ON THE EFFORT TO PRODUCE LIFE.

I'M REALLY AM THANKFUL THAT THIS THING ABOUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY BEING THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

WE LAUGH.

WE JOKE.

BUT NOTICE THAT EVERYBODY SMILES.

AND YET WHEN WE SAY IT, IT'S SPEAKING A DIRECTION.

FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I BELIEVE THAT I BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD WHEN IT SAYS AND GOD SAID, AND IT CAUSED THINGS TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION.

I BELIEVE THAT HAPPENS WHEN I LOOK AT MY SON.

I ALWAYS SPEAK LIFE TO MY SON.

DIRECTION FUTURE.

AND THIS IS A GOOD THING, AND IT IS NO WONDER THAT THE GREATEST SCRIPTURE KNOWN ON THIS EARTH IS FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.

NO CONDEMNATION IN THAT STATEMENT.

IT'S A STATEMENT OF LOVE.

IT'S A STATEMENT THAT SAYS WHEN YOU LOVE, YOU GIVE.

IT'S A STATEMENT THAT SAYS, I'M INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE OF THE PERSON I'M SPEAKING TO.

AND SO I'M JUST THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE AND TO SPEAK WORDS OF LIFE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. SUSAN CONNOLLY.

HELLO. I'M SUSAN CONNELLY, THIRTY NINE POINT ONE, DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

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UM, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME ABOUT.

I'M SO GRATEFUL ABOUT THE EMPHASIS ON SOLAR ENERGY AND FPL AND HOW IT IT'S JUST THRILLING THAT WE'RE IN THE LEAD, THAT WE ARE BEING SELECTED FOR ALL THESE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES.

AND I HAD I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE MAKING THEIR PRESENTATION, BUT I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT WE HAD THE SECOND SOLAR FIELD HERE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.

SINCE THEN, BOTH THE MIAMI HERALD AND THE FLORIDA TODAY HAD RUN ARTICLES ABOUT HOW FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT IS MAKING CHANGES IN THEIR NET METERING PROGRAM OF WHERE CITIZENS CAN GET CELL BACK SOLAR AND EXCESS SOLAR ENERGY TO THE FPL.

AND THAT PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE JEOPARDIZED.

AND SO I WANTED TO JUST CONTINUE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR ALL THE SOLAR ENERGY EFFORTS AND ALSO ALL THESE THINGS.

IT'S IT'S BIGGER THAN FPL.

IT'S IT'S ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT THIS CAN GENERATE.

IT'S THE ACCESS THAT SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US.

AND WE GOT TO LOOK CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO DO THAT.

I WANT TO TIE IN.

SO I SAW THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT, I HEARD RANDALL OLSZEWSKI PRESENTATION, I'D LIKE TO SAY I AM ON TWO BOARDS.

I'M ON THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

I'M ALSO ON THE PALM BAY ADVISORY BOARD.

AND SO I LISTEN TO PROGRAMS THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH ENERGY AND EFFICIENCY AND SOLAR.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WISH MR. BART WAS STILL HERE BECAUSE I SEE HIM EVERYWHERE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE MR. BART, YOU KNOW, SOME GOOD NEWS IS COMING AND BIG NEWS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID WAS ABOUT THOSE CONCRETE PADS, THE 10 BY 10 CONCRETE PADS THAT THE TRANSFORMERS ARE GOING TO GO ON.

AND I THINK, GOSH, DON'T FORGET WE CAN USE POROUS CONCRETE.

SO THERE'S MANY WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP.

AND I LEARNED THAT BEING A MEMBER OF THE PALM BAY.

ADVISORY BOARD, BECAUSE I WENT TO THE LID LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE WITH MEMBERS OF THE STAFF AND THE CITY, AND SO I THINK THIS IS HOW THE INTERACTIONS OF ALL OF US CAN.

WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR A GREATER PURPOSE.

SINCE I MENTIONED THE BOARDS, I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S NOT ONLY THREE.

I'LL CONTINUE TONIGHT LATER ON.

SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU ALL. THAT ENDS THERE, NO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, CORRECT, DEPUTY MAYOR, OR DID YOU WANT TO? I DID GET FROM STAFF AN UPDATE ON EMERSON.

I CAN SHARE BRIEFLY THERE WORKING ON THE SEA FIFTY ONE CULVERTS, SO IT'S A STORMWATER PROJECT THAT HAS THE ROAD SHUT DOWN.

WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME IS THAT LATER IN JANUARY, RIGHT NOW, THE ESTIMATE IS JANUARY 21ST FOR THE ROADWAY TO BE OPEN.

MY ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETIMES THAT CHANGES.

BUT LATER THIS MONTH, IT'S EXPECTED TO BE REOPENED.

THE CONTRACTOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE IS FEBRUARY 1ST AND FINAL COMPLETION DATE IS MARCH, LIKE MARCH 1ST.

TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF FOR BEING SO EFFICIENT AND REACHING OUT TO YOU QUICKLY, THANK YOU.

WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HERE IN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT.

THE FORWARD, ARE YOU, SIR? EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS BRUCE MOYE WITH MBB ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS TO VACATE THE DEAD END OF MERCURY AVENUE.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, BUT OUR CLIENT HAS BUILT THOSE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES, VERY AFFORDABLE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THERE, DIFFERENT PRODUCT THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN A LOT OF PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

SO THEY'RE NICE, WELL-BUILT, AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS.

AND SO HE'S BUILT FOUR PHASES.

HE'S PURCHASED THAT EXISTING PORTION THAT WAS IN BETWEEN THIS OTHER PHASES.

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SO WHAT HE'D LIKE TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND VACATE THE ROADWAY.

HE'LL TAKE OVER MAINTENANCE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT ROAD ANYMORE OR ANY OF THE DRAINAGE THAT'LL BE TAKEN OVER BY HIM, AND THAT WILL ALLOW HIM TO PUT ONE MORE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.

SO I THINK THAT IT WHEN IT TAKES THE MAINTENANCE AWAY FROM THE CITY AND YOU'LL GET SOME MORE AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU'LL APPROVE THAT RESPECTFULLY AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS IS THE FINAL READING.

QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN FELIX, YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MR. MOIR, YOU MENTIONED ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ON THAT PROPERTY.

THERE WERE, YES, THERE'S ROOM FOR ONE MORE BUILDING.

IF YOU COMBINE ALL FOUR, ALL FIVE PARCELS AND VACATE THE RIGHT AWAY, THERE'S ROOM FOR ONE MORE BUILDING. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE WITH THE AREA AND JUST TRYING TO KIND OF PICTURE WHERE WHERE WOULD THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER? BETWEEN THE THE OLD OLDER BUILDINGS THAT HE JUST PURCHASED AND THE NEWER BUILDINGS THAT HE DID ON THE EAST END? OK. YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO GET THE VISUAL AND I KNOW THE WAY THE THE CONFIGURATION OF THE OF THE AREA WAS JUST NOT SEEING IT ON THE NEWER NEW ACQUISITION IN BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND THE NEW ONE, RIGHT? IT'LL ACTUALLY IT'LL ACTUALLY BE ALONG THE SOUTH MOST PROPERTY LINE AND KIND OF LIKE THE EAST CORNER. OK, THANK YOU.

WHAT? WHAT HAS HAPPENED THERE? WHAT HE'S DONE ALREADY IS IMPECCABLE TO SPRUCED UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YES, SIR. MY COMPLIMENTS AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE HIM INVESTING IN OUR CITY.

GOOD. THANK YOU.

ALSO, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF YOUR APPLICANT? THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU.

NO, THANK YOU. AND HE WON IN THE AUDIENCE, WISHED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED WARRANT ITS TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO EIGHTY THREE FINAL READING.

SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR, I.

HAS UNANIMOUSLY.

MS. SHERMAN OR AS YOU WERE, MS. MS. SMITH. YES, MAYOR, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, THREE, SEVEN AND 16.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING IN THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SECRET CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGREED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION FIFTY NINE POINT ZERO THREE AND EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES PER WITNESS.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.

HE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON HIS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION IN THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THAT'S EIGHTY FIVE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

MANY OF THE ZONING ORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY ARE CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM LIE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSING DISTRICT TO BE IMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ROBERT JAKELIN BOULEVARD AND COMMERCE PARK DRIVE, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDE FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. THE APPLICANT HERE.

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WE'RE HERE FOR OUR FINAL READING FOR THE REZONING APPLICATION FOR THE WHAT WE'RE CALLING EAST SHORE, WHICH IS OUR THIRD PHASE OF OUR MASTER PLAN INSIDE THE ROBERT J.

CONLON CORRIDOR. HERE, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ARE THE PUBLIC.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT THIS TIME? THANKS. THANK YOU. IT ANY COMMENTS THAT.

NO, THANK YOU, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, ANYONE WOULD SPEAK.

HEY, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

A MOTION APPROVED WARREN IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH EIGHTY FIVE FINAL READING I.

MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON SEEING, IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. THE ANONYMOUS CALL INTO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS UNANIMOUSLY WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. MS. SMITH WORDINGS TWENTY 20 ONE DASH EIGHT EIGHT AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CHANGE CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM PMU PARKWAY MIXED USE DISTRICT TO S.C.

COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF AN ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD IN THE VICINITY WEST OF ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

YOU OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MS. SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT TO US TODAY AND ADVISE THAT SHE'D BE UNABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING DUE TO MEDICAL ISSUES.

SO JUST WANTED TO PASS ALONG THAT THEIR REQUEST IS OBVIOUSLY FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR FINAL READING. HE QUESTIONS STAFF OR OF STAFF COUNSEL.

IN. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON I'VE D, SPEAKER CARDS, OK, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION A MOTION IMPROVE ON ITS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH 88 FINAL READING ON MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? THE ALL IN THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR, HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DEATHS, NINETY ONE.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER FIFTY FIVE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT PENSION PLAN BY INCREASING THE SUPPLEMENT OF BENEFIT AMOUNT FOR POLICE OFFICERS SEPARATE WITH VESTED SERVICE OR RETIRING ON OR AFTER OCTOBER 1ST TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADAM SHERMAN HUMAN TO PREVENT THIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS FINAL READING, SO NOTHING NEW TO ADD.

THIS IS JUST IN BRIEF, AN UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THE NEW COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALSO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT? IN NONE. THERE ARE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

YOU NOT GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION A MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH NINETY ONE FINAL READING SECOND ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.

WHEN FAVRE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE'RE ON ITEM FIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE. OR IT IS TWENTY TWENTY ONE DEATHS, NINETY TWO, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 11 BUSINESS REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 117 ALARM SYSTEMS OR REPEALING PROVISIONS WHICH PROVIDE FOR CIVIL PENALTIES FOR FALSE ALARMS. PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN A CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND MS. SHERMAN. WOULD YOU JUST PRESENT THIS AND THANK YOU, MAYOR? YES, THIS IS ALSO A FINAL READING.

SO NO CHANGES FROM THE FIRST DISCUSSION.

IN BRIEF, THIS IS SOME CHANGES TO ELIMINATE SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT CREATE FINES FOR FALSE ALARMS FOR HOMEOWNERS RESIDENTIAL ALARMS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF GENTLEMEN, SEEING NONE.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHED TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST? YOU KNOW, NOT I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE. TWENTY TWENTY ONE NINETY TWO FINAL READING ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR, HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM SIX.

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THE APPLICANT TO. SENT THEIR CASE.

MICHAEL AND JANINE, COLIN, MICHAEL AND JANINE CULLEN.

GOOD EVENING. WE REQUESTED THIS FOR A SAFETY ZONE.

WE HAVE A CHILD WITH A GRANDCHILD WITH HER SIGHT IMPAIRMENT.

AND WE WERE THINKING THAT THE FIVE FOOT FROM THE HOUSE TO THE EDGE OF THE POOL WAS JUST TOO SHORT FOR THE BUFFER ZONE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING ANOTHER EXTRA TWO FEET.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR SEVEN FEET? YEAH, TOTAL.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YOU. OK.

THESE STAFF COMMENTS, MADAM SHERMAN, JUST TO SAY THAT UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A Z AND STAFF SUPPORTS THE REQUEST. BILL BATTEN.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

BILL BURTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST POINT, ONE SEVEN ACRES.

THIS IS A SMALL LOT, BUT WANT A BIG FOOTPRINT.

ONE MORE TIME, A VARIANCE IS REQUIRED.

THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY THE CITY SHOULD KEEP AS MUCH OF THE LARGER LOTS AND THE RURAL RESIDENTS RURAL RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE PACKED INTO TIGHT QUARTERS.

HOWEVER, THESE INDIVIDUALS SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THIS VARIANT SO THEY'LL BE IN THE SAME SITUATION AS THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AROUND THEM THAT STILL HAVE THEIR POOLS IN THEIR BACKYARD. IT'S BECOME THE NORM OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT WE HAVE TO ASK FOR VARIANCES INSTEAD OF LEAVING OR MAKING SMALLER FOOTPRINTS, WHICH MAKES TIGHTER TIGHTER TO THE BARRIERS AND BOUNDARIES.

SO EVERYBODY HAS TO GET VARIANCES TO HAVE THE BIGGER FOOTPRINT THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE.

SO MY SUGGESTION IS LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DOING OUR CITY LAYOUT AND TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT BIGGER FOOTPRINTS START LOOKING FOR LOTS WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE BIGGER FOOTPRINT INSTEAD OF THE PEWDS THAT HAVE THEM PACKED IN VERY TIGHT QUARTERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS STEPPING MAYOR? HEY. THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST BY MICHAEL COLLIN FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED SWIMMING POOL AND DECK TO ENCROACH SEVEN FEET INTO THE TEN FOOT REAR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SET BACK IN THE PUDI ZONING.

SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YOU KNOW, I'M CALLING QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED AS UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH ZERO ONE A RESOLUTION, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED SECURITY TO WHAT DWELLING UNIT IN D.C.

GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AN ADJACENT TO THIRD AVENUE, THE VICINITY SOUTH OF AL GORE CIRCLE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDED FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SCOTT MCFARLAND, I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OF TWO SIXTY ONE THOR AND I'VE APPLIED FOR THIS CHANGE SO THAT I CAN GET A SECURITY DWELLING, GET THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD COMPLY WITH ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

I WOULD ALSO BE THE ONE THAT WOULD BE OCCUPYING THE PROPERTY.

QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

ALSO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THESE STAFF COMING UP, MADAM SHERMAN, WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT TO WHAT THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY STATED, WHICH IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN THE REPORT, SO HE'S CONFIRMED HE WOULD COMPLY WITH THOSE SO STAFF IS GOOD.

HAPPY, MAYOR, IS THERE ANY SPEAKER? OK, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE KQ DASH 50 THREE DASH TWENTY TWENTY ONE, SUBJECT TO THE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SO I CAN A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

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WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

OR 20, 20, TWO DASH ZERO TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AN ABANDONED A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOTT SIX AND SEVEN BLOCK TWENTY SIX.

SO TO MALABAR UNIT FORTY NINE, ACCORDING TO THE PLOT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22 PAGE 160, THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ALFRED BERNOFF FOR THREE FIFTY THREE ABALONE ROAD.

WE'RE HERE HAVING A HOUSE BUILT IN SOUTHWEST PALM BAY AND WE'RE REQUESTING IT GOING IN TEN FEET INTO THE 20 FOOT EASEMENT TO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL BUILT.

SIR, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? IN NONE. SHERMAN, ANY STAFF COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO ADD? NOTHING ADDITIONAL, THANK YOU, SIR.

THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS SIDE.

THE NON-DOM GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS COUNSEL.

LISTEN TO APPROVE, IT'S TWENTY TWENTY TWO, OH TWO.

FIRST READING. SO I CAN.

AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE ON ITEM EIGHT.

AS YOU WERE NINE.

AUDIENCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO, THAT'S ZERO THREE.

AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AN ABANDONED A PORTION OF THE SIDE, 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN A LOT.

TWENTY ONE BLOCK NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT PORT MALABAR UNIT FORTY TWO, ACCORDING TO A PLOT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK.

TWENTY ONE PAGE 111.

THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GARY GOODNIGHT.

TWELVE THIRTY THREE, HOWEVER, AVENUE NORTHWEST.

I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR NOAH RAY CLAWSON, WHO'S MY GRANDSON AND THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WE'VE JUST NOTED.

THE PURPOSE OF OUR REQUEST IS TO UTILIZE 10 FEET THE EAST, 10 FEET OF THE WEST, 20 FOOT EASEMENT FOR PURPOSES OF BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

CURRENTLY, THE RESIDENCE WOULD ENCROACH ONTO THAT IF WE CONTINUED WITH THE THE CURRENT HOME DESIGN. YOU ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS CAN.

YOU SEEING NONE.

MS. SHERMAN, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? JUST THE STAFF SUPPORTS THE REQUEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? SEEING, NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR MOST AND IMPROVE ON ITS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH OH THREE FIRST READING SECOND AT A A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? THE NONE ALL IN FAVOR I PASSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE AN ITEM 10.

ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO.

THAT'S ZERO FOR AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY FIVE AND ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING K-9 TRAINING AND SIMILAR USES IS A PERMITTED USE IN LIGHT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE DISTRICT ZONING PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORTIZ'S AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORTIZ'S PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL PIAZZOLLA, I'M REPRESENTING THE INDIAN RIVER DOG TRAINING CLUB. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO AMEND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO INCLUDE DOG TRAINING, SCHOOL AND CLUB FACILITY.

A COUNSELOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS? THANK YOU. AND I'M SHERMAN YOU WANT TO ADD STAFF COMMENTS.

I STOP WITH SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST, IT SEEMED TO BE AN APPROPRIATE FIT FOR THE LIGHT

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ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM.

THE NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO FOR FIRST READING.

LIKE AN A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX, THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS SEEING NONE.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER 11 ORDNANCE 20 20 TWO DASH ZERO FIVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY FIVE THE ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER SUPPLEMENTARI DISTRICT REGULATIONS.

MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THEIR ARCHITECTURAL APPEAL PROCESS.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION. THE CITY PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MA'AM.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT AS A RESULT OF A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD AT A STAFF LEVEL, BUT ALSO PUBLICLY WITH COUNCIL, INCLUDING AT OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, OUR WORKSHOP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

AND ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THIS IS IS A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES SECTION THAT KIND OF REGULATES THE ARCHITECTURAL CODE FOR THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.

AND ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS TO STREAMLINE THE ORDINANCE A BIT AND MAKE THE PROCESS ESSENTIALLY FOR RELIEF OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS TO BE A LOT SIMPLER AND EASIER FOR FOLKS TO WORK THROUGH, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO SEEK RELIEF THROUGH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO SIMPLIFY THAT FOR FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY WE CAN DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OF SHERMAN JOHNSON.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASK IF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

YOU NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S COUNSEL FOR A MOTION A MOTION APPROVE OR IN ITS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH 05 FIRST READING.

I CAN. MOST OF MY COUNCILMAN FELIX OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING INTO MY COUNCILMAN FELIX, THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE, GENTLEMAN SEEING NONE.

I'M GOING TO ALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR. I PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM. 12.

ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH ZERO SIX AUDIS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, OMITTING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS, SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.

ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. I BOUGHT A LAND, IT'S ABOUT ONE POINT FORTY SIX ACRES.

OH, SORRY, STEPHANIE LOPEZ.

I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD ON IT, SO I'M REQUESTING THAT IT BE CHANGED FROM RECREATIONAL TO RESIDENTIAL. THAT IS IT.

YOU MEAN MANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN.

THIS ONE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SEEING, NONE ANY STAFF COMMENTS, NOTHING FOR FURTHER TO ADD ME OR THANK YOU.

YOU WENT IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

IN KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE.

HOLD ON. I JUST SAW SOMEONE.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT STEPPING UP AND SPEAKING THE MIC HERE.

GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS SHARON LOPEZ AND I LIVE AT A TWO ON ARABIA ROAD DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SAID LOT.

I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.

I WAS HERE IN DECEMBER 1ST AND I WAS TOLD THAT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

IT WAS NOT DEEMED RECREATION AND FOR OPEN SPACE.

AND IT WAS DEEMED SINGLE FAMILY SPACE.

SO I'D LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE THE WAY THE ROAD IS, IT WHINES AND THE NARROWNESS OF THE ROAD WILL CREATE A PROBLEM FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS OF CARS COMING ON IN AND OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF THAT STREET.

PLUS THERE'S THE CANAL THAT'S DRIED UP.

AND IS VERY DEEP, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD.

MADAM SHERMAN, CAN WE GET STAFF TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? I CAN GIVE AN INITIAL COMMENT AND THEN JOAN, IF YOU OR ALEX HAVE A COMMENT, FEEL FREE TO

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SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS.

THERE'S THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING IN THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.

THE ZONING IS ALREADY ASKED TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S THE LAND USE THAT WASN'T MATCHED WITH THAT PROPERLY.

SO THE LAND USE HAS BEEN A RECREATION OPEN SPACE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE TO MATCH WITH THE EXISTING ZONING.

BUT IS THAT UNDERSTOOD, MA'AM? YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS.

THE. SO YOU WANT TO.

IS THERE AN ERROR IN THE ZONING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CORRECT? GO AHEAD, MA'AM, RESPOND.

I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW OFFHAND WHAT THE HISTORY OF THIS PARCEL IS, BUT I CAN HAVE OUR GROWTH. MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR ALEX BERNARD TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT AND DO SOME RESEARCH FOR YOU. WE DO HAVE FROM TIME TO TIME, WE COME ACROSS PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE ZONING AND LAND USE THAT DON'T MATCH UP.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS AND IT DOESN'T GET ADDRESSED UNTIL SOMEONE COMES IN AND WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING.

I SUSPECT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WE CAN CHECK FOR YOU. THANK YOU.

Q, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION A MOTION APPROVAL, AND IT'S 20 22 06.

ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX. I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR BY PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

I'M. 13 AND 14 WHEN WE RETURN, WE'RE ON ITEM 15.

YES. AUDIENCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO.

THAT'S ZERO NINE.

BOARD IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE SEVEN TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING REGULATIONS SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.

ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ARTISTS AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.

MS. SMITH IS.

WELL, I KNOW IN THIS CASE, COUNCILMAN, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS AS FAR AS WHY THIS ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT BACK AT THIS TIME AND IF IF IT SHOULD WAIT, I MEAN, CERTAIN COUNCIL OPTIONS WOULD BE ONE COUNCIL COULD DECIDE TO TAKE TESTIMONY AS FAR AS TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE AND DO THAT NOW AS A PROCEDURAL MATTER OR COUNCIL COULD JUST GO ON AND CONSIDER WHETHER THIS IS SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED OR IF IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE TO YOU DURING THE REGULAR PUBLIC HEARING.

CERTAINLY, IF COUNCIL DOESN'T AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY YOU CAN ASK, YOU KNOW, STAFF AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENCE.

SO IT'S HOW COUNCIL WANTED TO PROCEED.

EITHER WAY, IF YOU DID A PROCEDURE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT. SO IT MAY BE VERY WELL THAT COUNCIL DECIDES TO OPEN UP THE HEARING, ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THEIR PRESENTATION AND TO INQUIRE OF THEM DURING THEIR PRESENTATION.

WHAT REALLY IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MATTER THAT YOU DECIDED THAT YOU DID NOT WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH AND THIS SUCH THAT A DIFFERENT RESULT SHOULD BE HAD? HEY. SO WE WE CAN IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, MADAM MADAM ATTORNEY, WE CAN DISCUSS AFTER WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR WE COULD DISCUSS BEFORE WRITE IT.

YES, IF YOU DISCUSSED BEFORE AND LET'S SAY YOU, YOU DISCUSSED IT, YOU BROUGHT YOU BROUGHT THEM FORTH AND THEY PROVIDED TESTIMONY.

WE THE OTHER SIDE PROVIDED TESTIMONY.

YOU DECIDED, WELL, IT'S NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT.

OH, THAT WOULD MEAN IS THAT THEY COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR YOU COULD JUST OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER IT ON ITS MERITS.

CONSIDER WHETHER IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT AND VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE EITHER WAY, YOU'RE ULTIMATELY GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE SOME TESTIMONY.

SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL. JUST PERHAPS IF HOUSE WAS SO DESIRES, CONSIDER WHETHER IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT DURING THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING.

BY JUST OPENING THE PUBLIC HERE.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR, YOU WANT TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, YES, SIR.

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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEDINA, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD. MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER.

I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH LACEY LYONS AND ROSENKER.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SACHS CAPITAL GROUP LP AND IDENTICAL INVESTMENTS LLC.

WITH ME, THE REPRESENTATIVE SACHS CAPITAL GROUP IS GREG SACKS.

HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND FROM IDENTICAL INVESTMENTS LLC IS GERALD LAKEN. HE'S HERE ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALSO, PRESENT IS BRUCE MOYA WITH DNB ENGINEERING.

HE IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

HE IS THE ONE THAT WAS BEFORE YOU IN APRIL OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

AT THAT TIME, IT WAS A REQUEST FOR A COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND SINGLE FAMILY ACTUALLY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IT WAS A DIFFERENT LAND USE REQUEST IN A DIFFERENT ZONING REQUEST.

THIS IS NOW BEFORE YOU IS A MIXED USE REQUEST OVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY OF TWENTY ALMOST TWENTY FOUR ACRES AND ALSO A PUDI PROPOSAL.

THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN A YEAR OR 18 MONTHS, OR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AT WHICH TIME THE ZONING WOULD BE CHANGED TO A PUDDY ZONING.

SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.

ALSO, THE DIFFERENCE IS YOU DID NOT HAVE A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SITE PLAN, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE YOU THAT WOULD BIND THIS PROPERTY TO WHAT WOULD BE PRESENT.

NOW YOU'RE BINDING IT TO THREE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES THIRTY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX TOWNHOME UNITS.

ALSO, YOU HAVE THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT.

THERE WAS THERE WAS NOTHING BEFORE YOU TO TELL YOU WHAT THIS WOULD BE.

AS YOU KNOW, YOUR PAD ORDINANCE REQUIRES A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OPEN SPACE TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT, TO ALLOW FOR CLUSTERING, TO ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSINGS AND COMMERCIAL.

SO THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW APPLICATION, A NEW PRODUCT BEFORE YOU JUST WANT TO START WITH THAT. SINCE I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE MOVING FORWARD INTO MY PRESENTATION.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS TWENTY THREE POINT EIGHTY SIX ACRES.

IT USED TO BE THE JOE DADDY'S GOLF COURSE, WHICH OPENED IN NINETEEN NINETY SIX AND CLOSED IN OCTOBER OF 2019.

I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WAS QUITE THE PLACE AN OLD NINE HOLE GOLF COURSE THAT HAD A DRIVING RANGE AND HAD A BAR AND A RESTAURANT. IT WAS A COMMERCIAL USE.

IT WAS IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT WAS A COMMERCIAL USE.

AND NOW YOU HAVE THIS TWENTY FOUR VACANT ACRES.

IT'S SOMEWHAT DILAPIDATED.

BUILDING IS OVERGROWN AND IT'S SOMEWHAT OF AN EYESORE.

THE PAVEMENT IS BREAKING UP AND IT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED.

THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT, A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT TO GIVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMERCIAL.

AGAIN, THIS IS A PLANNED AMENDMENT SEEKING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO BE CHANGED TO MIXED USE TO ALLOW THE PDP AND ULTIMATELY PUDDY PROPOSED.

THERE IS A COMPANION PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET, AND THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN CLEARLY ILLUSTRATES THE LOCATION, RELATIONSHIP DESIGN, NATURE AND CHARACTER OF ALL USES EASEMENTS, STRUCTURES, PARKING AREAS AND ROADS, AND COMMON OPEN SPACE.

SO THERE'S A SMALL VERSION IN YOUR PACKET, AND I HAVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT EACH OF THESE PAGES. AND ALSO TWO, WE HAVE ASKED FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH WAS NOT IN YOUR PACKET TO BE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT.

IF NOT, THERE'S A SMALL VERSION IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL.

THE PROPOSAL, AS I'VE MENTIONED, IS ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX TOWNHOMES ON TWENTY POINT NINE ONE ACRES IS TO BE PLANTED.

IT WILL HAVE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

IT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE IT'S ALL MAINTAINED.

THE TOWNHOMES WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 4500 SQUARE FEET.

IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THE INTENDED IS.

THESE ARE TO BE LARGER THAN APARTMENTS OR EVEN SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA. IT'LL BE TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS.

THE AMENITIES WILL INCLUDE A CLUB VILLIAN AND A WALKING PATH THAT'S ALSO ON THE CONCEPT LAND. THERE WILL BE THREE COMMERCIAL LOTS ON THE TWO POINT NINE FIVE ACRES IN THE FRONT OF THIRTY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

AS MENTIONED, THE CITY CODE REQUIRES TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OPEN SPACE.

WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IN THE PDP IS OVER THIRTY SEVEN PERCENT OPEN SPACE, SO IT'S MORE

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AS YOU KNOW, THE PUDDY HAS THESE LARGE BUFFERS WHICH WERE PROMISED AT THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING, AND THEY ALSO AGREED THE APPLICANT TO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS REQUESTED.

STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF BOTH OF THESE MEASURES BEFORE YOU, THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE P, DO I UNDERSTAND YOU DO THESE SEPARATELY, BUT THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER, SO THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THE PRESENTATION AT THE SAME TIME.

I'M IN THE PACKET BEFORE YOU.

PAGE ONE, I'VE GIVEN THAT TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A MIXED USE QUARTER, WHICH WE HAVE ASKED FOR A MIXED USE, FUTURE LAND USE.

THERE'S APPROXIMATELY ONE LINEAR MILE FROM JUST WEST OF TURNER ELEMENTARY AND ELDRIDGE BOULEVARD TO JUST EAST OF EMERSON.

IN THAT ONE MILE ALONG JUPITER, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE RETAIL, YOU HAVE OFFICE AND YOU HAVE CHURCH USE. AS I MENTIONED, DODI'S WAS A COMMERCIAL USE IN THE MIDDLE OF OF THIS MIXED USE AREA.

ON PAGE ONE OF THE PACKET IT SHOWS, AND IT'S HARD TO READ THEM THAT YOU HAVE THE RETAIL CENTER TO THE NUMBER ONE TO THE.

TO THE WEST OF TURNER BOULEVARD, TO THE SOUTH OF THAT, YOU HAVE A RETAIL CONVENIENCE STORE TO THE EAST OF THAT NUMBER THREE.

YOU HAVE TROY LUTHERAN CHURCH.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE FIVE POINT TWENTY FIVE ACRES OF COMMERCIAL STRIP, WHICH WAS WHERE THE DOE DADDY'S BUILDING WAS, WHICH HAD THE BAR, THE POOL HALL AND THE FOOD SERVICE YOU RENTED YOUR DRIVING, YOU GOT YOUR GOLF CARTS AND YOU'RE DRIVING AND YOU'RE DRIVING RANGE MATERIALS THERE AS WELL.

GOING FURTHER TO THE EAST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JUPITER BOULEVARD, NUMBER FOUR, YOU HAVE A RETAIL CENTER FOR THE SOUTH OF THAT, YOU HAVE ANOTHER RETAIL CENTER.

AND YOU GO BACK TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS RETAIL CENTER.

NEXT TO THAT NUMBER SEVEN, AN OFFICE PROFESSIONAL USED TO BE THE SOUTH OF THAT NUMBER EIGHT. YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY OF CHURCH CHRIST.

I GIVE YOU ALL THAT TO SHOW THE MIXED USE NATURE OF THIS ONE MILE AREA.

ON PAGE TWO IS THE SMALL VERSION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH YOU DID NOT SEE BACK IN APRIL. IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED TO YOU.

IT SHOWS THE POND.

IT SHOWS THE PARKING.

IT SHOWS THE UNITS.

THESE ARE EIGHT UNIT TOWNHOME BUILDINGS WITH PARKING.

YOU HAVE RETENTION POND.

YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE. AS I SAID, ALMOST THIRTY SEVEN PERCENT HAVE A VERY LARGE BUFFER TO THE NORTH. YOU HAVE A BUFFER TO THE EAST ALONG BOVARD.

PAGE THREE OF THE PACKET YOU HAVE THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE LARGE VERSION OF WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET, MR. MOYA CAN ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

HE'S DONE THE ENGINEERING FOR IT OR SOME OF THE ENGINEERING FOR IT.

NOT ALL OF IT. TO PAGE TO PAGE FOUR, I NEED TO PREFACE THIS A BIT.

BACK IN APRIL OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

REVIEWING YOUR MINUTES.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ISSUES OF CONCERN TO YOU, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TO THE CITIZENS.

NUMBER ONE WAS THE SCHOOL BOARD ISSUE, WAS THE SCHOOL BOARD AWARE OF THIS PLAN, HAD THEY COMMENTED ON IT? WAS THERE CAPACITY AT THE SCHOOLS? MR. MOYA AND I MET WITH SUZANNE, WHO'S THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT FOR FACILITIES FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND TALK TO THEM WHETHER THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US TO HELP WITH THE ELEMENTARY TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE IS THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP AND THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT US BEING ABLE EVEN THE RESIDENTS GETTING IN TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'M MEETING WITH SUZANNE.

MR. MOIR CAME UP WITH THIS, THIS PRESENTATION ON NUMBER FOUR, AND THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

ONE IS TO EXTEND THE TURN LINE BY DEDICATING RIGHT OF WAY.

THE OTHER IS TO ACTUALLY THAT'S THE BLUE GOING UP.

THE RED IS TO ACTUALLY CIRCULATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S OWNED BY THE APPLICANT, AND THEN OPTION THREE IS IN YELLOW, AND THAT'S TO EXPAND THE TURN LANES SO THAT.

SO THAT THE.

COMMUNITY WILL HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR CHILDREN INTO THE TURNER ELEMENTARY, AND THE APPLICANTS ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THIS TO HELP WITH THIS TO MOVE SIDEWALKS IF NECESSARY, WHAT'S EVER NEEDED, AND THIS WILL BE EXPLORED DURING ENGINEERING WITH COOPERATION OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.

PAGE FIVE IS THE EMAIL FROM SUZANNE THAT SAYS, YES, WE ARE INTERESTED IN THIS.

WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT COST AND COST SHARING, AND THEY ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE COMMITTED TO DO THAT.

ANOTHER ISSUE WITH SCHOOL CAPACITY SCHOOL CAPACITY ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THEIR SCHOOL CAPACITY IN THE AREA.

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THAT'S IN THE PDP.

THAT WILL BE BINDING ON THIS PROPERTY.

THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT COMMERCIAL USE COMPATIBILITY, AS I'VE SHOWN THIS AS A MIXED USE AREA. THERE ARE THREE RETAIL CENTERS IN THIS AREA ONE WITH TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, ONE WITH TWELVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND ONE WITH SIXTEEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET ALL WITHIN THIS ONE MILE RADIUS.

THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC STUDY ONE HAS BEEN CONDUCTED PART OF IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE, WHICH I'LL DISCUSS WHEN I GET TO THAT.

THERE WAS A REQUEST THE PROPERTY BE PRESENTED AS A PUDDY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. WE'VE NOW PRESENTED IT TO A PWD.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS BINDING TO THE PROPERTY.

THE PDD IS GOING TO BE SELF-CONTAINED AND ORGANIZED IN A BETTER TRANSITION FROM SURROUNDING USES.

THERE WAS ALSO A CONCERN WHETHER THERE WAS A NEED IN PALM BAY FOR MORE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT ACTUALLY WAS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND ALSO TO.

I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET AND THAT'S ON PAGE SIX AND PAGE SEVEN.

PALM BAY FLORIDA RENTAL MARKET TRENDS THIS WAS FROM POINT TO HOME-SCHOOL.

IT STATES THAT RENTER OCCUPIED UNITS IN PALM BAY MAKE UP 25 PERCENT OF THE HOUSING MARKET AND THAT THE RENTAL VACANCY RATE IN PALM BAY IS FOUR PERCENT, WHICH IS PRETTY DARN LOW.

ALSO, THESE WILL BE NEW CONSTRUCTIONS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RENTAL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OWNED.

BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THE MULTIFAMILY ISSUE WAS PART OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPRESS HERE. AS TO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THIS WAS CONDUCTED BY KIMBERLY HORNE ENGINEERING AND PAGE EIGHT, NINE AND 10, I'VE JUST PRESENTED THREE PAGES OF THE 70 PAGES AS OBVIOUSLY WILL COME IN ENTIRETY TO THE CITY TO REVIEWED BY YOUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT.

IT DOES INDICATE THAT THERE ARE NO ROADWAY DEFICIENCIES BASED UPON THESE UNITS AND THIS COMMERCIAL USE THAT THERE ISN'T SOME NEEDED PROPOSED SIGNAL TIMING MODIFICATIONS TO ALLOW INTERSECTIONS TO OPERATE WITHIN THE ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

BUT THEY WILL WHEN THE WHEN THE TIMING IS CHANGED AT THE INTERSECTIONS AND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INGRESS RIGHT TURN LANE AND AN INGRESS LEFT TURN LANE TO BE INSTALLED AND THAT WILL BE DONE. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE COMMITMENT FOR THE PWD THAT THESE TURN LANES WOULD BE ESTABLISHED FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC.

THE ISSUE CAME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES REGARDING THE CONSISTENCY OF THE RESIDENTIAL USE.

AGAIN, TOWNHOMES ARE RESIDENTIAL USES.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE INDEPENDENTLY OWNED.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEEDED OUT.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLANTED.

SO THEY ARE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY USE.

THEY ARE IN A MULTI-UNIT BUILDING, BUT THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY USE JUST LIKE THINGS THAT ARE AROUND IT, JUST LIKE THE HOMES THAT ARE AROUND IT.

SOME OF THESE HOMES IN THE AREA ARE FROM THE 1980S.

SOME OF THEM ARE AS SMALL AS 900 SQUARE FEET, UP TO 16 HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

SO AT FOURTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE HOUSING THAT'S IN THE AREA. SOME OF THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FOR THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE CHANGE TO MIXED-USE, BUT I DID WANT TO RESTATE THAT THE FLU POLICY EIGHT STATES OF THE CITY SHOULD HAVE A DIVERSE PATTERN OF LAND USES.

THIS WILL GIVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO YOUR RESIDENTS FOR OWNERSHIP.

ALSO, HOUSING ELEMENT SG ONE STATES THAT THERE SHOULD BE A SUFFICIENT SUPPLY AND VARIETY OF SAFE, DECENT AND ATTRACTIVE HOUSING.

THIS WILL BE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IT WILL BE CODE COMPLIANT AND IT WILL BE HURRICANE RESISTANT AND IT WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE AREA AND WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE OF THE SALE OF THESE WILL INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE SALES AROUND THEM.

AS I MENTIONED, STAFF REPORT INDICATED THAT MULTIFAMILY IS NEEDED THROUGHOUT PALM BAY.

SO REGARDING ORDINANCE 20, 22 09, WE WOULD REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO MIXED USE AS SUPPORTED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM.

I WOULD REQUEST REBUTTAL TIME IF IF THERE ARE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS CHANGE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

DID YOU MENTION ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX HOMES? YES, SIR. AND SO.

WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE US IN IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR.

HOW MANY TOWNHOMES WERE THERE INDICATED HOW MANY HOMES? I DON'T KNOW, AND IT WASN'T TOWNHOMES, I BELIEVE IT WAS TINY HOMES AT THE TIME, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A COMMITMENT AS TO WHAT WAS TO BE THERE.

BRUCE MOYO WAS PRESENTING AT THE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS WERE PROPOSED.

I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU ADJUSTING THE TRAFFIC AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL.

ONE OF MY CONCERNS ALSO WAS AS ONE OF OUR CITIZENS IS SO, SO ADAMANTLY PUTS IT WE DO NEED

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SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS WHY CAN'T THIS BE DEVELOPED AS ONE ACRE LOTS? SO THAT WAS AND THAT THE NUMBERS MAY NOT WORK.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT CERTAINLY BIGGER LOTS.

RIGHT. AND THAT.

THAT WAS AN ADDRESS, I GUESS, BUT SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO INQUIRE ABOUT, MA'AM.

IN IN THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND PUBLIC SAFETY I KNOW IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR US, ONE WAY IN ONE WAY OUT IS IT HAS ANOTHER EXIT BEEN.

PART OF THE PLAN, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HAVE OR WILL CONSIDER AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A SECOND ENTRANCE ON JUPITER BOULEVARD, BUT THE RESIDENTS DID NOT WANT AN EXTRA EXIT AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS SAID NOT TO DO IT.

OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS SAID IT'S NOT SAFE.

THE RESIDENTS DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING ON BOVARD AVENUE, BUT IF YOU, THE COUNCIL SAYS WE NEED ONE ON BOVARD, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BOVARD AVENUE, BUT I JUST BOVARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BOVARD, BUT LIKE GRAND, WE'RE ON THE EASTERN PART SO THAT IN GRANDEUR CONNECTS TO EMERSON IS IS WHAT I, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY GOING.

THE REAR HAS A LARGE CANAL BACK THERE.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE SEA CANALS.

I THINK IT'S FORTY. I MEAN, THEN YOU START WORKING WITH THE MAILMAN, MELBOURNE TILLMANN CANAL BACK THERE. YEAH, I HAVE IT ALIGNS WITH GRANDEUR.

I WENT BY THERE TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CONNECTION SOMEHOW WHEN THAT CAN BE MADE ON GRANDEUR.

I I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR AND MR. MOYA MAY BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN BETTER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE GRANDEUR IS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DESIRES, THAT CAN BE MADE A CONDITION.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED IT BECAUSE ALL WE LOOKED AT WAS BREVARD AND JUPITER.

YEAH, BECAUSE I DO AGREE THAT HAVING TWO ENTRANCES ON THE SAME CORRIDOR THAT THAT CAN CAUSE, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM.

BUT I WAS THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE BECAUSE THERE'S A BRAND CONNECTS TO EMERSON AND AND THAT E SWAGIT. NOW SOME OF THE RESIDENTS DOWN GRAND HERE MAY NOT APPRECIATE IT, BUT PUBLIC SAFETY WISE, I THINK IT GIVE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO NAVIGATE THAT COMMUNITY.

AND YOUR AND YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY REQUIRE THAT ANYHOW.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN PROJECTS BECAUSE THE STRIP IS SO LONG.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIRES A SECOND ENTRANCE ON THE OTHER END, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T REACH THE TWO HUNDRED THRESHOLD.

AND PART OF MY CONCERNS PRIOR, SO I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU SINCE YOU YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE ARE SO MANY CHANGES.

I I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

I DIDN'T VISUALIZE THE CHANGE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE PLAN WAS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS WHEN I SAW IT A YEAR AGO.

AND THE ORDINANCE READ, OR I'M LED TO BELIEVE THAT IT HAD TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE AND I DIDN'T SEE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.

SO THOSE THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, MA'AM.

I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T VISUALIZE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.

NOW THAT'S RELATIVE, RIGHT? SUBSTANTIAL. LIKE, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT SUBSTANTIAL WOULD MEAN TO ME, AND I GUESS IT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE, LIKE WE WERE JUST RANKED NUMBER THREE IN THE U-HAUL RANKING RIGHT FROM.

NUMBER TWENTY THREE, SO WE JUMPED UP 20 SPACES.

THAT, TO ME IS SUBSTANTIAL, AND THAT WAS MY MY PLUMB LINE, IF YOU WILL.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY THE DISCUSSION OF WAS THIS SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO BRING THIS FORTH? YES. AGAIN, I WASN'T INVOLVED.

IN APRIL, I UNDERSTOOD THERE WAS NO CONCEPT PLAN.

BUT BEFORE YOU AND A PUDDY WAS REQUESTED, WE'VE NOW DONE THAT, WHICH BINDS THE PROPERTY.

THE CONCERN WAS MULTIFAMILY.

YOU COULD PUT APARTMENTS, YOU COULD PUT ANYTHING.

AND NOW WE'VE LIMITED THE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES.

SO AND IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

CHANGE TO ME IS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, BUT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE NOT FROM A TANGIBLE PERSPECTIVE.

OK, ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN DEPUTY MAYOR.

YES, MAYOR, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN ON THIS BECAUSE I WAS DEFINITELY I WAS ON.

YEAH, SHE SHE ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

I SAY IT IS SUBSTANTIAL BECAUSE PRIOR TO JUST BEING HONEST, WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW.

MY CONCERN WAS WAS GOING TO BE APARTMENTS THERE RIGHT BEHIND THE SCHOOL.

THE TRAFFIC, YOU DID IT, YOU DID A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND IT SHOWS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LEFT TURN INGRESS AND A RIGHT TURN.

SO THESE WERE THINGS WE DIDN'T KNOW PRIOR TO SO THAT SUBSTANTIAL INFORMATION TO ME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE AND THE FACT I BROUGHT IT UP IN COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

DID I REMEMBER REGARDS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OR WERE THEY AWARE?

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THAT'S NOT IT. SO WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WHEN SHE WAS EMAILING MS., MR., SUZANNE AND GOING BACK AND FORTH, THESE WERE THREE DIFFERENT.

YEAH. THESE ARE THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.

THREE DIFFERENT DESIGNS THEY'RE MEETING ABOUT ON HOW TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE SCHOOL TRAFFIC.

I'M NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE I KNOW EVERYTHING ON IT, BUT IT SHOWS ME THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEM. AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THE BEST SET OPTION CAN OCCUR IF THIS GOES FORWARD.

BUT THESE ARE THINGS WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE, SO I CONSIDER SUBSTANTIAL.

MY ONLY ON THE MAYOR BROUGHT IT UP IN REGARDS TO THE TWO ENTRANCE POINTS.

BUT THEN I DID SEE IN THE MINUTES THAT THEY ONLY WANTED ONE INTEREST POINTS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US EXPLORE GRAND A YEAR IF YOU KNOW, IF THIS GOES FORWARD.

THE ONLY OTHER THING IN REGARDS TO RESIDENTS WAS THERE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THEM? I KNOW WE'LL HEAR FROM PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT THEY WANTED THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND THEY WANTED LARGER BUFFERS TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST, WHICH THEY'VE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE BEST ABILITY.

AND THESE AGAIN, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

NO ONE HAD A TRAFFIC STUDY AND ALSO TOO, WITH CHANGING OF THE SIGNALIZATION OF THE INTERSECTIONS AND EXTENDING PROBABLY THE BLUE LINE THERE IS EXTENDING THE TURN LINE THAT THE TURN LANE, THAT'S WHAT SEEMED TO BE MOST PALATABLE TO MISHAN.

WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE WORKABLE.

IT'S PROBABLY ALSO THE EASIEST.

BUT THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE THE ENTRANCE AND INTO TURNER ELEMENTARY, WHICH FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD AT P AND Z AND PREVIOUSLY IT'S IT'S A CONCERN DURING.

AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD ENCOURAGE, LIKE I SAID, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, YOU KNOW, EASIEST ISN'T ALWAYS THE BEST.

I WANT THE SAFEST. SO.

SO WHICH I HAVE NO PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, IF IF STAFF NEEDS TO LEAN ON MS. SUZANNE, I KNOW WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH HER.

I THINK THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FROM FROM THE CITY AND AND KIMBERLY HORNE AND SCHOOL BOARDS PROBABLY ALL GOING TO HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE IT OUT.

BUT YES, I MEAN, THE THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTED TO DO THAT.

IF YOU NEED TO PUT THAT INTO A PUDDY CONDITION, WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT AS WELL OR THE PLAN CONDITION, WHICHEVER IS MOST APPROPRIATE.

OK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HERE, IF I MAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION.

I THINK YOU COVERED QUITE A BIT AND IT'S VERY CLEAR AS TO WHAT YOU GUYS INTENT, WHAT THE APPLICANT'S INTENT, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

I WOULD AGREE THIS PROJECT.

I REMEMBER IT VIVIDLY LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.

YEAH, THERE'S QUITE A BIT MORE.

IT'S A LOT MORE ELABORATED.

AND I KNOW THE CHANGE TO AS FAR AS THE ZONING AND THE USE AND SO ON.

SO I WOULD AGREE THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAT THE WAY AND I'LL BE QUITE HONEST, I'LL SAY IT. I LOVE THE PROJECT.

I TRULY LOVE IT. I THINK IT IT BROUGHT TO US SO MANY COMPONENT, BUT THE MARKET DRIVEN CURRENTLY ASKING IN TERMS OF THE TOWN HALL.

AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS ALWAYS HAS BEEN FOR MONTHS NOW THE IDEA OF SINGLE FAMILY, ALL THESE PODS WITH ALL THESE SINGLE FAMILIES 300 THOUSAND AND UP.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY, PRICING A SEGMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY OUT OF THE CITY, AND WE WILL NOT BE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH IF WE, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATE SOME OF OUR.

FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, ALL YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS WORKER, THOSE ALL YOUNG POLICE OFFICERS OR TEACHERS, THEY CANNOT AFFORD, NOT $300000 HOME.

SO THIS IS AN OPTION.

THIS IS REALLY YOU'RE BRINGING THIS PROJECT BRINGING VIABLE SOLUTION FOR WHAT WE NEED.

SO I'M 100 PERCENT I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

THE ONLY THING, THOUGH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE MAYOR AS FAR AS THE SECOND OF EXIT.

I'M NERVOUS THAT MANY HOMES THAT DENSITY THE LEVEL OF DENSITY ONE IN ONE WAY, IN ONE WAY OUT THAT THAT GET ME NERVOUS.

SO I'M THINKING PUBLIC SAFETY.

IF ANYTHING, BOVARD OR BOARD TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE GRANT GREEN DOOR COME TO PLAY HERE, BUT BOVARD TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY THAT STREET.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE CONCERN OF THE RESIDENT, BUT IF IT'S NOT A FULL EXIT OR ENTRANCE, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, WE SHOULD CONSIDER AT LEAST AN EMERGENCY EXIT.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

TO ME, IT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE.

WE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING DOWN EITHER DOWN AT THE VERY END ON THE NORTHERN END OF BOVARD.

BUT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, SOMETHING GOT TO BE TAKE PLACE SOMEWHERE THERE.

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IT'S A TIGHT INTERSECTION AND THERE'S SOME CONCERN THERE AS WELL.

BUT THE PROJECT IN ITSELF, I THINK IT'S AWESOME.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND BRUCE MOYA CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE THE ENTRANCES.

I'M JUST IT'S AN ENGINEERING ISSUE, IF THAT CAN.

IF THAT SLIDE CAN BE BLOWN UP AND WE COULD SHOW WHERE GRANDEUR IS TO THE REAR OF OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? IT RUNS RIGHT ALONG.

THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH, SEE THAT THAT IF THAT THAT COULD BE ANOTHER VIABLE OPTION BECAUSE THAT STREET RUNS EAST AND IT WILL RELEASE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ON EMERSON.

SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THOUGHTS TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT THAT BE ADDRESSED NOW.

I TRULY BELIEVE.

IT'S. IT'S RIGHT, ONE ACRE LOT.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE AND WE ARE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, AND WE DO NEED MORE ONE ACRE LOTS, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN MY STANCE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE EVEN MORE TYPE OF OPPORTUNITIES LIKE GRAND BALL CARRIER MAY HAVE SOMEWHERE, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THIS PROJECT.

BUT EVEN THOUGH I THINK IT'S ZONED PROPERLY WITH THE ONE ACRE LOTS, I THINK THE USE WAS THE FORESIGHT WAS SEEN AND AND IT WOULD BRING UP THE ECONOMY IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU PUT ONE ACRE HOMES OUT THERE, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.

BUT THAT THAT GRAND YEAR MAY BE ANOTHER OPTION IS IS ALL I'M THINKING ABOUT MS..

I THINK YOU'RE POINTING TO MR. MOYA. YEAH. MR. MOIR, I'D LIKE TO STEP FORWARD.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL BRUCE MOYE WITH MBB ENGINEERING.

SO I WAS AT THE CITIZEN'S PARTICIPATION MEETING.

I WAS NOT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK WHEN THIS WAS FIRST HEARD.

THAT WAS MR. BASFORD FROM MY OFFICE.

I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, BUT I DID WATCH THE TAPE NUMEROUS TIMES JUST TO MAKE SURE I FULLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE DID NOT SUBMIT ANY PLAN AT ALL.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

HE WAS LIKE, IF YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THERE AND COME BACK WITH A PLAN, I'LL I'LL RECONSIDER IT.

FORTUNATELY, HE'S NOT HERE ANYMORE.

SO NOW THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE WITH THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE SHOWING YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE MEETING WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE THERE, BESIDES THE RESIDENTS OF THE NORTH WANTING ADDITIONAL BUFFER WHICH WE'RE GIVING THEM AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE EAST WANTING THAT FENCE TO KEEP US FROM THEM, HAVING TO LOOK AT OUR BACKYARDS AND US ACCESSING BOVARD.

THEY DIDN'T WANT US ACCESSING BOVARD AT ALL.

YOU KNOW, MOST DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE DO IN THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS AREA IS VERY RARE THAT EITHER A COUNCIL OR COMMISSION WOULD ASK US TO CONNECT TO A LOCAL ROAD WHEN WE HAVE ACCESS TO A COLLECTOR ROADS.

THAT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T LIKE MORE TRAFFIC IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO IF I COULD OFFER SOMETHING A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT IN MOST MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS COUNTY, A SECOND ACCESS ISN'T REQUIRED UNTIL YOU HAVE OVER 200 UNITS. SO AS FAR AS THE SAFETY REQUIREMENT, THEY DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE THAT UNTIL YOU'RE OVER TWO HUNDRED FOR A SECOND ACCESS.

BUT IF YOU WOULD BE SO INCLINED TO ACCEPT WHAT MIGHT BE BETTER IN CASE SOMETHING DID HAPPEN AT THAT EXIT, MAYBE AN EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY SO THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T GET TRAFFIC ON A DAILY BASIS.

BUT IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN WHERE THEY HAVE TO GET OUT, THERE'S A WAY OUT.

IF SAFETY IS IS REALLY YOUR CONCERN, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER.

SO I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

SO WOULD IT BE ON GRANDEUR? WE COULD DO IT. YEAH, WE COULD DO IT RIGHT THERE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE DAILY TRAFFIC GOING OUT, YOU KNOW, JUST AN OPTION IF YOU IF YOU DO WANT IT TO GO OUT THERE SO WE CAN GET TO EMERSON, THAT'S FINE. BUT JUPITER IS A COLLECTIVE ROAD.

AND YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC WE FEEL AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER FEELS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE COLLECTOR ROAD BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGER ROAD AND NOT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S NEIGHBORS HERE AND WHAT THEY WOULD SAY IF THAT WAS A PROPOSAL TO CONNECT A FULL BLOWN ACCESS TO THEIR ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M SURE THEY'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT IF THEY'RE HERE.

BUT THE REALLY THE REAL PROBLEM IS JUPITER IS THE SCHOOL THAT'S AN EXISTING PROBLEM THAT'S HAPPENING EVERY DAY AND IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY'S LIFE THAT GOES DOWN THAT ROAD.

NOW I KNOW THAT SCHOOL VERY WELL BECAUSE I DESIGNED THAT SCHOOL WHEN I WORKED FOR BOARD BACK IN THE 80S AND WE DID FOUR SCHOOLS IN PALM BAY AT THE SAME TIME AND BACK IN THE 80S.

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WE WALKED TO SCHOOL. WE RODE OUR BIKES TO SCHOOL.

THE LOOPS WERE VERY SMALL AND YOU CAN SEE HOW SMALL THE SLOOP IS.

SO IF THIS PROJECT DOESN'T COME, THAT THAT PROBLEM DOESN'T GET SOLVED.

SO WE WANT TO BE PART OF THAT SOLUTION.

AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT WORK FOR TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL THOSE, ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT PART OF IT ANYWAY.

SO THAT'S REALLY MY PITCH ON THE TRAFFIC PART.

YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT WHAT I WHAT I SAID AND SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THE QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN.

YEAH, I NEED TO SPEAK IF YOU DON'T MIND YOUR WORK.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. UM, I'M GLAD YOU'RE UP HERE.

MR. MOYER, BECAUSE. I LIKE THE EMERGENCY EXIT.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO WITH THE EMERGENCY EXIT.

THAT'S MY THINKING. BUT WHEN YOU COME TO THE TRAFFIC, YOU'VE GOT BLUE, RED AND YELLOW ON THE SHEET. YES, SIR.

ARE YOU WILLING TO DO ALL THREE OR JUST ONE OF ONE OF THE THREE? YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

NOT ALL. THREE. NO, SIR.

DO YOU NEED ALL THREE? I DON'T THINK WE DO. WE'RE GOING TO, LIKE I SAY, THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO SUE.

AND SHE'S RUNNING IT UP THE FOOD CHAIN AT THE SCHOOL BOARD TO SEE WHICH WAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THE WAY THEY THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO GO.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON.

HEY, WELL, MY CONCERN IS THE ENTRY INTO THE PROJECT, AND THAT'S WHERE THE BLUE IS.

YES. SO.

HYPOTHETICAL, YOU DON'T DO THE BLUE, YOU DO THE RED OR THE YELLOW.

WHAT WOULD HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT THEIR ENTRY INTO THE TO THE RESIDENT IF YOU DON'T WIDEN THE ROAD THERE? THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS.

YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. YES.

SO IF WE DID SO, IF WE DID THE RED OR THE YELLOW, IT WOULDN'T IMPACT OUR ENTRANCE AT ALL BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE HOPEFULLY ENOUGH STORAGE FOR THOSE VEHICLES WHERE THEY'RE NOT BACKING OUT INTO JUPITER.

IF WE DO THE BLUE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE IF THEY IT'S KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GO UP ON GALLEY FROM THE BEACH SIDE.

I DO HAVE A BEACH SIDE NOW.

SO WHEN YOU GO FROM THE BEACH SIDE TO US ONE ON A GALLEY, THOSE CARS BACK UP ALL THE WAY PAST PINEAPPLES.

SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY THEY BLOCK OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CARS DON'T BLOCK THE INTERSECTION. THEY BLOCKED THAT OUT SO PEOPLE CAN STILL GO THROUGH.

SO IF WE DID THE BLUE AND THOSE CARS WERE STACKED, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TURN LANES THAT WOULD ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO GET IN THAT ENTRANCE IF WE DID THE BLUE SO THEY WOULDN'T BE BLOCKING OUR DRIVEWAY.

AND SO WE WOULD PUT THOSE MEASURES IN PLACE TO PROVIDE THE STACKING, BUT NOT TO BLOCK THE DRIVEWAY. IS THE TRAFFIC STILL WOULD BE AFFECTED AROUND THE SCHOOL? ALL RIGHT. YOU MEAN FROM FROM OUR OH, NOT WELL.

WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY DO IS THEY BACK INTO THE THROUGH LANE.

OK, SO WHAT HAPPENS? SEE, THERE'S A VERY SMALL TURN LANE INTO THAT AND THEY BACK UP PASSED THAT INTO THE THROUGH LANE. SO YOU CAN'T GO, YOU CAN'T GO WEST BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE THROUGH LANE.

SO WE WANT TO GET THEM OFF THE THROUGH LANE ONTO A BIGGER TURN LANE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO WEST WITHOUT BEING BLOCKED.

THAT'S THE PLAN.

THANK YOU. WHO I THINK YOU HIT ON SOME POINTERS THERE, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, AT LEAST TWO OF THE THREE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

YET YOU'RE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE.

YEAH, IT'S POSSIBLE.

NOT FOR NOTHING, DID I JUST SAY.

UM. THE LANES, WHEN YOU SNAKE IT OUT, IT'S STILL GOING TO POP OUT ONTO JUPITER.

IT'S STILL IT'S STILL SO PERHAPS THAT RIGHT AWAY LANE, ALONG WITH THE SNAKING INTO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, WOULD ALLEVIATE WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAYING IS, IS THAT TRAFFICKERS? AND I THINK YOU'VE YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THAT TRAFFIC.

OH YEAH, I'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT WE WILL DO WHEN WE CONSIDER THIS IS WE'LL GO OUT DURING THOSE TIMES AND COUNT CARS AND SEE HOW MANY CARS ACTUALLY STACK.

SO WE'LL MAKE THE ROOM SO THAT IT DOESN'T BLOCK THE ROAD.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON? YES, MA'AM, I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS AND ON GRAND REAR, I'M COUNTING THIRTY ONE HOMES.

CURRENTLY, THERE'S A FEW LOTS, BUT THOSE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE FILLED EVENTUALLY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY 36 HOMES.

WHAT I'M SEEING, SO I'M LOOKING AT POSSIBLY LIKE I'M THINKING, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, EMERGENCY EXIT MIGHT BE THE BEST BET BECAUSE IF YOU JUST HAVE THAT OPEN, ALL THE GRANDEUR IS GOING TO BE UP IN FRONT OF US SAYING, HEY, WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN? HOW DID THIS OCCUR? AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY ON JANUARY SIX, TWENTY TWENTY TWO, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD RATHER LEAN TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY EXIT, SIR.

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BUT I DO WANT I TALKED TO OUR, YOU KNOW, LEGAL IF SHE CAN SHARE WHAT SHE JUST SHARED WITH ME IN REGARDS TO.

OR UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO OR I HAVE MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE AS FAR AS ANY OF THESE TYPE OF CONDITIONS. CERTAINLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE LAND USE IS TO IF IT IS COUNCIL'S INCLINATION TO APPROVE THIS FOR THE FIRST READING, TO APPROVE THIS FOR THE FIRST READING AND HAVE THESE CONDITIONS TIED TO THE ZONING, WHICH IS WILL BE SUBSEQUENT.

SO WE WON'T FORGET ABOUT THEM.

BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE PASS THIS, WE'LL ATTACH THEM TO THE ZONING RATHER THAN ATTACHING INTO THE LAND USE.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL, MAYOR.

AND AGAIN, THE FUTURE LAND USES ONE ACRE LOTS.

CORRECT. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THE ZONING IS ONE UNIT PER ACRE.

THE LAND USES FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

AND ONE MORE POINT ON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, IS ON SEPTIC NOW, AND IF YOU DID ONE ACRE LOTS, IT WOULD BE ON SEPTIC STILL.

WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING SEWER TO THE PROPERTY, SO TO GET RID OF ANY SEPTIC POSSIBILITIES. AND IF YOU ZOOM OUT ON THE AERIAL, THIS IS A PRETTY, PRETTY URBANIZED AREA. THERE IS DEFINITELY A PLACE FOR ONE ACRE LOTS.

I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE PLACE, BUT THERE IS A PLACE FOR THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THIS IS THE PLACE FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY ON A COLLECTIVE ROAD.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. YOU.

OR DEPUTY MAYOR, SO CARDS AREN'T NEEDED FOR THIS ONE, BUT I DO HAVE ONE FROM DAVID MONTGOMERY. OH, YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL, SIR.

OK. AND THEN AFTER THAT, ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 15.

IT WAS JUST.

UH, HAVE A SLIDE UP.

THANK YOU. SO WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS HERE, AND IT'S I'M GLAD I COVERED A LOT OF THIS STUFF. I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TIME, I DIDN'T EXPECT THIS TO COME BACK UP WITHIN A YEAR, BUT IT'S HERE, SO I TRY TO THROW A LOT OF THE STUFF IN HERE REAL QUICK.

I REALLY REQUEST THAT WE DENY THIS ORDINANCE DOING THE LAND USE CHANGE IN THE COMP PLAN AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT'S NOT.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF ISSUES HERE AND I DON'T THINK THEY'VE REALLY BEEN LOOKED AT.

THERE'S MANY REASONS THIS IS A BAD IDEA.

THERE ARE SCHOOL HAZARDS WITH THE CHILDREN, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ALREADY OVERLOADED ON JUPITER. THERE'S WE'RE ADDING A HUGE LOAD ONTO THE JUPITER COLLECTOR ROAD THERE, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

THERE'S SOME STORM WATER ISSUES THAT I PROBABLY WON'T HAVE TIME TO GO INTO.

THE PLAN IS INCREASING THE DENSITY SO HIGHLY OVER WHAT WAS EXISTING THERE.

THERE'S JUST NO IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.

ALL THIS WATER IS GOING TO RUN RIGHT INTO CANAL NUMBER 49 ALONG THE TOP PART AND THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT AND IT'S SO DENSE, THERE'S NO TREE COVER BY APPROVING 22, 20, 20 TO NINE WILL ALMOST GUARANTEE THERE'S NO TREES, AND WE'LL JUST HAVE A STERILE HIGH DENSITY PAVED OVER TWENTY FIVE TWENTY FOUR ACRES.

HERE, I'M GOING TO GO IN THE SLIDE NEXT SLIDE A FEW SLIDES, BUT OK, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

I DON'T MIND GOING AHEAD.

YOU LOOK AT OUR COMP PLAN IN NINETEEN SIXTY, AS THEY DID PHASE TWO OF GENERAL DEVELOPMENT, THE PLANNERS HAD THIS DESIGNATED AS AS PUBLIC SPACE.

SO I'M SURPRISED THAT SOMEWHERE OVER IN THE 70S, THE TWO TOP LOTS HERE CONVERTED OVER AND SOMEHOW THEY BECAME REAL RESIDENTIAL OVER TIME.

SEVERAL PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO AND I BELIEVE THIS TOO, THAT IN THE ISD PLAN, THAT LOWER LOT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL, SO TIME IT GOT CHANGED OVER.

I TRIED TO WORK WITH PALM BAY AND FIND OUT WHAT WAS THE ZONING PRIOR TO 2020 WHEN THE PURCHASE OCCURRED. I COULDN'T FIND THAT OUT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING.

HERE'S THOSE THREE AREAS WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THEM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO

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I WON'T HAVE TIME TO REALLY GO INTO THIS TOO MUCH.

THAT'S WHY I GAVE YOU GUYS COPIES, AND THAT'S WHY I REALLY REQUEST THIS.

TWENTY TWENTY TO NINE BE DELAYED OR PUT OFF BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN APRIL.

IT'S IT'S IDENTICAL.

IT'S JUST GOT MORE DETAIL, AND IT INCLUDES THE HIGH DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE.

BUT GEORGE ECK OVER TIME BOUGHT THREE PROPERTIES AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

HE WAS ABLE TO PUT A GOLF COURSE THERE.

HE DIED IN 2019, AND WITHIN A FEW MONTHS, HIS HIS ESTATE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO MR. SAXON AND A 10 PERCENT INVESTOR INVESTOR, AND THEY BLENDED ALL THE ZONING AT THE TIME INTO RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S REALLY SURPRISED ME THAT FIVE ACRES, WHICH WAS NOT CONNECTED, WAS BLENDED INTO THE SAME PROPERTY. OK, BUT SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN MY MIND.

RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALONG THAT FIVE ACRES.

OK, I'M GOING TO RUN OUT OF TIME.

AND CAN I JUST FLIP THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES? APPRECIATE YOUR COMING.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? HMM. HI, MY NAME IS SCOTT WAHL D'SOUZA.

I KNOW QUITE A FEW OF YOU UP THERE, ACTUALLY.

I LIVE AT FIVE 18 HATCHER STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CANAL 54.

MY MOTHER AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH MULTIPLE TOWNHOME COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY COASTLINE.

CATALINA ILES, COQUINA PALMS AND MARINA ISLES.

JUST WHERE DO YOU LIVE, SIR? I LIVE AT 518 HATCHER STREET.

OK, I DIDN'T SOUTHEAST PALM BAY RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE CANAL.

RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE. OK, I CAN, YOU KNOW? YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AN AGENT IN BROWARD COUNTY FOR QUITE A WHILE.

I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY MY ENTIRE LIFE.

AND THE MARKET ANALYSIS FOR THIS PROPERTY BEING ONE ACRE PARCEL OF LAND IS JUST UNFEASIBLE. WE'RE HERE TO MAKE MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THE HIGHEST AND BEST PRODUCTIVITY OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE TO USE AND THAT LOCATION, AFFORDABLE HOMES, TOWNHOMES AND PLACES LIKE THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE BEST THING FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW FOR FROM MY MARKET ANALYSIS, THOSE HOMES PROBABLY RAGING IN THE LOW TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE TOWNHOMES ARE GOING TO INCREASE MY PROPERTY VALUE.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE I WON'T BE LOOKING AT A HOMELESS CAMP IN THE GOLF COURSE WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW, I WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE RODENTS THAT COME ACROSS THE CANAL FROM THE GOLF COURSE THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW BEING ON MAINTAINED AND WITH MAINTENANCE.

WITH THE UPGRADE TO TOWNHOMES, YOU'D HAVE INCREASED STORMWATER DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE AREA, WHICH THAT WHOLE SIDE OF EMERSON RIGHT THERE FLOODS DRASTICALLY AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THAT, AND THE CITY IS NOT ABLE TO DO IT WITH THEIR FINANCES ALL THE TIME. SO THIS THIS IS JUST REALLY A GREAT IDEA.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD USING THE JUST WITH THE LAND USE, THEN, YOU KNOW, RATCHET OUT ALL THE DETAILS AFTERWARD.

ALL WE'RE ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE LAND USE TO BE CHANGED SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE OTHER THINGS IN PLACE AND START BRINGING THEM UP FOR PROPOSALS TO YOU GUYS.

AND I THINK THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER THIS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. IF I THINK.

MIXER GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

ONE MORE TIME CHANGING RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO A HIGHER DENSITY.

THE COUNCIL THINKS ONE HOUSE PER ACRE MEANS A PIG FARM.

NO, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

ONE HOUSE PER ACRE MEANS BEAUTIFUL ESTATES.

SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY SEEMS TO BE LACKING IN.

ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS ALL IN AN AREA WHERE THE TRAFFIC ALREADY HAS TO PARK ON THE GRASS BECAUSE THE CITY FAILED TO PLAN PROPERLY AND ALLOWED IT AND ALLOWED EXPANSION WHERE THEY WERE WEREN'T PROPERLY PREPARED.

RIGHT. SO THE TRAFFIC CURRENTLY BACKS UP FOR THREE BLOCKS.

IT'S ALL THE WAY ALMOST UP TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT ON SOME CASES.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S JUST SO THE PARENTS CAN PICK UP THEIR KIDS FROM SCHOOL, SO THEY PARK AND IN THE MORNING WHEN THEY'RE DROPPING THEM OFF AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GO TO WORK, THEY HAVE THE PROBLEM GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, TRYING TO MAKE TURNS INTO THE SCHOOL. SO IT'S NOT JUST AT ONE TIME A DAY, IT HAPPENS TWICE A DAY.

RIGHT? OK, SO WHICH WOULD BE BETTER? TWENTY FOUR GORGEOUS ESTATE HOMES IN THAT AREA, OR ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX TOWNHOMES

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RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WITH THE COUNCIL, PLEASE TELL ME WHERE THE TRUE RURAL RESIDENTIAL ESTATES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PATROL AROUND 219 TRENTON AVENUE AND BILL JUST STOLE ALL MY THUNDER.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT HE'S SAYING THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER BEEN UP JUPITER IN THE MORNINGS WHEN THE CHILDREN ARE TRYING TO GO TO SCHOOL.

PARENTS ARE TRYING TO DROP THEM OFF.

BUT IN THE AFTERNOONS IS WHEN THE BIG PROBLEM STARTS.

JUST LIKE MR. BATTEN SAID, THEY PARKED ALONG THAT IN FRONT OF THE GOLF COURSE THERE.

RAIN OR SHINE, WHEN IT'S RAINING, THEY'VE CREATED A MUDSLIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE GUYS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A TURN LANE IN.

WHERE WOULD THE PARENTS PARK THEN WHEN THEY COME TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS, THEY'RE NOT PARKING IN THE ROADWAY NOW, THE ROADWAYS CLEAR WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THERE.

WELL, AS CLEAR AS IT CAN BE FOR AFTER SCHOOL PICKUP.

SO AND I'D LIKE TO ECHO MR BARTON'S VIEW THERE ON THE ACRE LOTS TO IT'S IT'S TIME.

I MEAN, WE GOT APARTMENT BUILDINGS GOING UP DOWN HERE NEXT DOOR TO WAL-MART.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE TOWNHOMES OR APARTMENTS.

I DIDN'T DO A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THAT.

BUT WE LIKE BILL SAYS, YOU KNOW, WHERE IN THE CITY? IF I CHOSE TO GO BUY AN ACRE LOT WITH A HOUSE WITHOUT BEING IN AN AREA, WHERE WOULD I GO? HARD TO FIND. SO JUST ALL THE TRAFFIC CONSIDERATIONS YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSED MOST OF IT, BUT JUST PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

OR EVEN ONE KID HIT OUT THERE SO.

TO KEEP ALL THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. OH, AND GO BENGALS TO SIR.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK PHONES? NATHAN WHITE, 13 01 SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND ALSO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS THAT I'M NOT SURE.

FORGIVE ME IF THEY WOULD BE BEST ANSWERED BY COUNCIL STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.

I'M. LOOKING THROUGH THE VARIOUS DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, I SEE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX USED TO DESCRIBE LOTS UNITS AND TOWNHOMES OR BUILDINGS TO BE MORE GENERIC, AND I'M NOT QUITE CLEAR ON EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING DESCRIBED HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY HOMES OR MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

SO IS THIS ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX UNITS? THAT IS TO SAY, ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX DIFFERENT DWELLING FAMILIES OR SO OR PERSONS OR BUILDINGS IN EACH BUILDING WILL HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILIES OR, YOU KNOW, LIVING, LIVING, LIVING UNITS IN THOSE THINGS.

SO THAT'D BE ONE OF THE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

ALSO, IF I'M READING AND I DO NOT SAY THIS AS A STATEMENT, IT IS MORE QUESTIONING BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AGAIN.

I HAD TO READ VERY FAST.

IT APPEARS IF I WAS UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT ABOUT 13 OR SO ACRES OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE FOR. OTHER VARIOUS NECESSARY USES, WHICH WOULD LEAVE ACTUALLY ONLY AROUND 10 FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THEMSELVES, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX OVER ABOUT 10 ACRES, THAT'S ABOUT SIXTEEN PLUS UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IF THAT IS CORRECT AGAIN, LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE ABOVE THE 15.

BUT I KNOW THAT THIS MAY NOT BE EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS.

THE LAST THING WOULD BE A COMMENT ON THE PROCEEDING AS A WHOLE, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN USE MAP.

FOR ONE THING, THIS IS NOT A SMALL SCALE DIFFERENCE, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT BY MY MY NEIGHBORS HERE. THIS IS NOT SMALL SCALE.

THIS IS VERY DRAMATIC.

RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX UNITS, WHICHEVER EXACT ANSWER, THAT MEANS IN LESS THAN 25 ACRES.

THAT'S DRAMATIC, THAT'S VERY DRAMATIC.

REGARDLESS OF THE ANSWER TO MY PREVIOUS QUESTION AND THAT HAPPENING, ALTHOUGH I HOPE IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T COME TO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT THAT HAPPENING IN THE SAME MEETING.

AS THE QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING, WHICH WOULD BE THE REQUEST TO APPROVE THE PUDDY FOR THIS IDEA, THIS DEVELOPMENT DOING THOSE IN THE SAME MEETING.

AND I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN MANY TIMES, TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND THEY AGREE DOING THOSE IN THE SAME MEETING IS IT FEELS INAPPROPRIATE AS IT DOES SEVERELY LIMIT PUBLIC

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AND THEN SECONDS LATER, DECIDING ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT PROPERTY.

IT FEELS A BIT CLOSED, IF THAT'S A WORD TO USE.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL FILMORE PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

I'LL BE BRIEF.

I REMEMBER PLAYING GOLF AT JOE DADDY'S GOLF COURSE AND AND I ALSO REMEMBER PLAYING GOLF, AND I USED TO LIVE AT PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AND I SEEING PALM BAY.

I THINK OF THE LINE PAY PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT AS I WERE LOSING MORE GREEN SPACES IN PLACES WHERE WE CAN PLAY AND HAVE RECREATIONAL SPACES.

AND AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT STRUCK ME ON THIS IS IS THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING, WE ARE INCREASING THE DENSITY GREATLY.

AND IN THIS PLAN, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAND, DEVELOP USE AS I SAW VERY LITTLE IN TERMS OF OF SPACE THAT WE HAVE FOR GREEN SPACES IN THAT AND YOU GUYS ARE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES. THE TRAFFIC IS A MAY IS A MAJOR CONCERN.

AND YEAH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT THE TRAFFIC DOWN SOMEBODY ELSE'S ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S DEFINITELY TRUE AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ADDRESS THE DENSITY ISSUES THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED ON THE SCHOOL TOO AND THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES THERE.

BUT I ALSO WOULD JUST AS WE'RE LOOKING, AS YOU'RE APPROVING THIS NEXT PORTION, JUST LOOK IN THE FUTURE AS TO WHAT GREEN SPACES ARE GOING TO BE THERE, WHAT IMPERVIOUS SPACES ARE GOING TO BE THERE, STORMWATER DRAINAGE AS YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN A LOT OF DENSITY.

AND THOUGH SOMETHING, I THINK THE DENSITY IS A LITTLE TOO HIGH.

I THINK YOU CAN COME DOWN AND OPEN UP SOME MORE OF THAT SPACE AND THEN MEET A HAPPY MEDIUM IN THERE. TOWNHOMES, I BELIEVE, ARE THE PERFECT NEED RIGHT NOW IN PALM BAY, AS WAS MENTIONED, TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE OF THE RESIDENTS HERE IN PALM BAY RENT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD HOMES.

SO THEY WE DESPERATELY NEED TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY AND PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING TO PALM BAY TO HAVE.

SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF MY MY SUGGESTIONS OR THINGS THAT I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT, BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST, I WAS HERE ON APRIL 1ST. I WAS ONE OF VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT WAS HERE, AND I SPOKE ON THIS ITEM AND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, MR. MOYO WAS NOT HERE. IT WAS HIS ASSOCIATE THAT WAS THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE TEAM HERE.

SO THE BIGGEST SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE TODAY IS THEY BROUGHT THE CAVALRY, THEY BROUGHT THE LAWYERS, THEY BROUGHT THE INVESTORS, THEY BROUGHT A STENOGRAPHER, WHICH THAT'S POINTS, THAT'S POINTS FOR STYLE RIGHT THERE.

THEY SAID AT THAT TIME, ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX UNITS, WHAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AT THAT TIME WAS A PROPER PLAN.

SO I WILL COMMEND THE FACT THAT DUE DILIGENCE WAS ACTUALLY DONE THIS GO ROUND.

HOWEVER, I DO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY PRESENTED BACK IN APRIL. I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME GETTING HUNG UP ON THAT, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY FAR INTO THE CONVERSATION OF ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS OR NOT? ARE WE GOING TO BRING ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX HOMES TO THE FORMER SITE OF JOE DADDYS GOLF COURSE? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX HOUSEHOLDS WHICH, WHAT DO YOU FIGURE AVERAGE TWO AND A HALF PEOPLE LIVING IN EACH HOUSEHOLD, AT LEAST ONE CAR PER HOUSEHOLD? LET'S CUT IT DOWN.

LET'S SAY IT'S ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY CARS IN AND OUT THROUGH THAT TRAFFIC MESS.

YOU DON'T NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY.

COME BE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

COME HANG OUT WITH US. LITTLE PEOPLE COME WITH ME WHEN I TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL AND PASS THROUGH ALL THAT AND MY DAUGHTER DOESN'T ATTEND TURNER.

SHE SHE ATTENDS SCHOOL A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH.

I HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH THAT SCHOOL ZONE TO GET TO HER SCHOOL ZONE.

IT IS A NIGHTMARE FOR TRAFFIC AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RED OPTION.

LOOK AT THOSE LITTLE WHITE INDICATORS.

YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. THOSE ARE THE OAKS THAT MR. MOYA'S ASSOCIATE EXPLAINED TO US.

THEY WERE GOING TO TRY DESPERATELY TO SAVE.

WELL, LOOK AT THE RED OPTION.

WE'RE GOING TO BLOW THOSE OUT OF THERE.

NO OAKS, BUT HEY, THE TRAFFIC IS FIXED.

IT'S UNREASONABLE.

THIS PROJECT IS TOO BIG OF A SCALE FOR ITS GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.

THAT WOULD BE OBVIOUS TO US IF WE WERE THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING THAT WE ARE UNDERTAKING. WE ARE STILL SETTING FORTH ON THE 20 40 VISION, WHICH SHOULD HOPEFULLY COME TO FRUITION AROUND FEBRUARY OF TWENTY TWO, WHICH WE COULD HAVE HAD THE RESULTS OF BY APRIL OF TWENTY TWO, WHEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE TO REHEAR THIS CASE.

NOW SOME THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, I'M GLAD THAT SOME CITIZENS WERE FOR IT. I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THAT, BUT THE FACT THAT ONE CITIZEN BROUGHT THAT THEY'RE EXCITED FOR THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BRING SEWER TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. NO, IT'S NOT MR. CITIZEN. NO, IT'S NOT.

THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET SEWER TO IT, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE ON THE CITY TO RUN INTO THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO LET US NOT BE FOOLED.

LET US NOT BE FOOLED BY THE FACADE OR THE CHARADE.

THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT ON A RATHER MODEST INVESTMENT OF $1 MILLION.

THEY CAN REALIZE THEIR INVESTMENT BUILDING SOME LUXURY HOMES ON LARGER PARCELS.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO CONFINE IT TO THE ACRE PARCELS.

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SO TO A PREVIOUS POINT MADE.

THERE'S NO WAY A PROJECT GOES ON THIS LAND AND DOESN'T BRING SEPTIC.

DOESN'T BRING SEWER. EXCUSE ME.

SO LET US NOT BE FOOLED BY ANY SORT OF AGAIN FACADES ON THIS PROJECT.

IT'S THE SAME PROJECT WE HEARD IN APRIL, AND YOU GENTLEMEN DID THE RIGHT THING THEN.

AND MR. BAILEY IS NOT HERE, BUT I'M SURE HE'S WATCHING.

AND THESE CHANGES, AS FAR AS BRINGING UP THE PUDDY, HE REQUESTED THAT HE'S NOT HERE TO ENJOY THAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST SOCIETY? WHEN I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND AS COUNSEL FOR A MOTION AS YOU WORK, NEED TIME? OH, AS YOU WERE.

MS., MAN, THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS THAT YES, SIR.

AND I APOLOGIZE, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET EVERYONE'S NAMES, THEY THEY SPOKE SO QUICKLY, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THE BEST I CAN.

MR. OLSZEWSKI. I CAUGHT BECAUSE HE SPOKE EARLIER.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OAKS AGAIN THAT READ OPTION.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT YET.

AND ACTUALLY THE SCOREBOARD INDICATED IN THE EMAIL, I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT BE SOME LIABILITY LIABILITY PROBLEMS OF HAVING PUBLIC TRAFFIC ON THE PRIVATE AREA, SO THEY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR US TO DONATE IT.

BUT SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE OAKS.

ALSO, TELL THEM TO CLARIFY WITH THAT YELLOW AREA THAT WOULD BE THE SCHOOL BOARD ACTUALLY ADDING ANOTHER TURN LANE.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT IF THEY NEED FUNDING, BUT THAT'S ON THE SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY. THERE'S BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN THE SCHOOL'S WAS BUILT IN THE MID-EIGHTIES, THERE WEREN'T AS MANY PEOPLE BRINGING THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL AND THEY WERE.

THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL TURN OR SMALL TURN IN AREA THERE, SO THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERING ADDING A SECOND.

TRAFFIC LANE ONTO THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

AS TO THE THE LUXURY HOMES, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR ONE ACRE LUXURY HOMES.

THIS IS NOT THE LOCATION NOT NEXT TO A SCHOOL, NOT ON A COLLECTIVE ROAD THAT EVERYONE SAYS HAS TRAFFIC.

NO ONE'S GOING TO BUILD A MILLION DOLLAR HOME IN THIS AREA.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT.

ALSO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSES AROUND IT, WHEN YOU HAVE A 900 SQUARE FOOT HOME JUST WITHIN 100 YARDS OF IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BUILT.

IT NEEDS TO BE COMPATIBLE.

TOWNHOMES ARE COMPATIBLE, THEY'RE AFFORDABLE, THEY'RE SINGLE OWNERSHIP.

THE LAND IS OWNED.

SO THE UNITS, TOWNHOMES, DWELLING UNITS, THERE'S ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX MAXIMUM THAT WILL BE OWNED OUTRIGHT.

FEE SIMPLE. SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN APARTMENTS, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN EVEN CONDOMINIUMS. SO THAT'S THAT WAS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN'S QUESTION AS TO LOSING GREEN SPACE.

THIS IS AN OLD GOLF COURSE.

I MEAN, IT'S IT'S NOT BEING USED.

NO ONE WANTED IT AS A GOLF COURSE.

NO ONE CONTINUED TO USE IT AS A GOLF COURSE.

THE PWD REQUIRES A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OPEN SPACE.

WE ARE AGREEING TO ALMOST THIRTY SEVEN LITTLE OVER THIRTY SEVEN PERCENT ALMOST WELL, A GOOD AMOUNT MORE THAN REQUIRED BY CODE.

IF YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL SINGLE PLATED HOMES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY GREEN SPACE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY TREES.

MAYBE YOUR LANDSCAPING CODE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, BUT THERE ARE LEAVING A LOT OF GREEN SPACE ON WALKING TRAILS AND AMENITIES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

NOW, THE CURRENT TRAFFIC PROBLEM, AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS THAT THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THEIR SIGNAL VIOLATIONS AT THE INTERSECTIONS THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED.

THERE ARE TURN LANES FOR THIS PROJECT, SO IT WON'T IMPACT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC IN THE SCHOOL PROBLEM WE ARE WORKING WITH.

WE'RE TAKING THE TRAFFIC OFF OF THE ROAD IN THAT BLUE LANE.

SO MR. OSOFSKY, WHEN HE DRIVES HIS CHILD TO SCHOOL, DOESN'T HAVE TO STAND IN THAT TRAFFIC, AND SO IT'S TAKING THEM OFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS AT THE TIME.

AND AGAIN, AS MR. MOYA SAID, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND OTHERS ARE GOING TO GO STAND OUT THERE AND WATCH THIS, SO WE KNOW.

ALSO, THE SCHOOL ZONES DROP OFF AND PICK OFF.

I BELIEVE TURNER ELEMENTARY GETS OUT AT 2:30.

THAT'S NOT A PEAK HOUR.

SO THEY'RE THAT TIME IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTING PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE'S THE PEAK HOUR ISSUE THAT THE SCHOOLS HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS THAN THE PEAK HOURS OF PEOPLE COMING AND LEAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT'S ALSO TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND HAS BEEN ADRIFT ADDRESSED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY. AGAIN, THIS ISN'T THIS IS THIS IS A MARKET DRIVEN ISSUE, TOWNHOMES OR WHAT IS NEEDED, AND THEY ARE MORE AFFORDABLE THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

IT WILL GIVE A DIVERSE SET OF SELECTIONS FOR HOUSING TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO THE RESIDENTS,

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FLORIDA HAS, SO THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED.

AND AGAIN, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AS REQUESTED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. WHAT ABOUT ONE OF OUR CITIZENS MADE A SUGGESTION TO REDUCE THE UNITS, AS OPPOSED TO 176 COMING DOWN FROM THAT NUMBER OF UNITS? WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I DON'T HAVE ANY. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT.

THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE THE THE OWNERS WHO ARE HERE.

THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY THE ENGINEER.

FROM THE ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, IT'S ABOUT 8.8 UNITS TO THE ACRE JUST TO TO GIVE YOU A ALSO TO WHEN THE MAN'S TALKING ABOUT 16 UNITS, DENSITY IS ALWAYS SPREAD OVER THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET TO THE COMP PLAN, THEN I CAN BRING MR. SAX UP HERE, AND HE COULD ASK THAT YOU COULD ASK THAT QUESTION OF MR..

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T. BUT BUT WE'RE AT THE PLANNING STAGE NOW, MAYOR.

SO UNTIL WE GET TO THE PUDI, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHEN THAT QUESTION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR MR. STACKS, IN MY OPINION.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT HE'S EVEN CONSIDERED IT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE ENGINEER HAS PROVIDED BASED UPON THE AVAILABLE LAND AND THE OPEN SPACE AND THE ENGINEERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WELL, I'M LOOKING AT OUR CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE WE HAVE WE HAVE LEGAL FROM BOTH SIDES, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON THAT.

CERTAINLY IS GOING TO BE MORE MOST BINDING IN THE PD, BUT.

THERE IS THE PRACTICAL REALITY OF YOU DON'T GET TO THE PUDI IF YOU ALL DON'T LEAVE IT, THIS IS AN INAPPROPRIATE USE AT THIS LOCATION.

SO CERTAINLY I'M NOT GOING TO TELL THE COUNCIL HOW TO PRESENT HER CASE.

I MEAN, SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE, BUT WELL, MR., YOU SAID THE ZONING CONDITIONS NEED TO GO IN THE PDP, NOT IN THE LAND USE.

YOU SAID THAT EARLIER. THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THAT.

AS FAR AS WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, THE PRACTICAL NATURE OF IT IS IF COUNSEL ISN'T IMPRESSED THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE TO THE LAND USE BECAUSE LAND USE IS LEGISLATIVE.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE AND THAT THEIR QUESTIONS ARE AN ANSWER, YOU DON'T GET TO THE ZONING, BUT AS FAR AS WHERE THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS NEED TO GO. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, I SAID, AND I STILL STAND BY THE PRIOR MS. NEED TO GO. CONDITIONS NEED TO GO IN THE ZONING.

YOU JUST HAVE TO GET THERE FIRST.

SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION? RIGHT, AND MR. MOYA HAD SOME TECHNICAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU BEFORE WE GET TO MR. SACHS, JUST A COUPLE TECHNICAL POINTS BECAUSE I SAW THAT STORM WATER CAME UP, SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY TWO ISSUES THAT I THINK THE PROBLEMS DON'T SEEM AS PROBLEMS. I THINK THIS PROJECT CAN SOLVE.

AND I THINK THAT ASKING FOR THAT A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL DENSITY IS IS OUR REWARD FOR SOLVING SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. BECAUSE THE LAND USE RIGHT NOW IS FIVE UNITS TO THE ACRE.

WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR A LITTLE OVER EIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT A HUGE JUMP.

BUT THE THE STORMWATER.

I WANT TO START WITH THAT BECAUSE IT CAME UP, AND I DON'T THINK THAT GENTLEMAN COULD HAVE BEEN ANY MORE WRONG WITH WHAT HE STATED, BECAUSE THIS IS A GOLF COURSE.

IT'S ONE OF THE DIRTIEST.

USES YOU CAN PUT ANYWHERE FOR STORM WATER.

THEY USE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF FERTILIZER THAT GO DIRECTLY INTO THE PONDS THAT GO DIRECTLY INTO THAT CANAL, AND THAT CANAL GOES DIRECTLY TO THE RIVER.

SO YOU'VE GOT UNCONTROLLED, NASTY, REALLY DIRTY WATER STORMWATER GOING TO YOUR SYSTEM NOW THAT IF WE COME IN, WE WILL FIX THAT.

WE WILL BECAUSE IT'S A MELBOURNE TILLMAN CANAL.

WE WILL REDUCE THE RUNOFF BY A FACTOR OF ABOUT 10.

THEY HAVE VERY, VERY STRICT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WILL MEET ALL THE POLLUTANT LOADING REQUIREMENTS BY THE ST.

JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAT THEY'RE NOT MEETING AT ALL RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT STORMWATER IS GOING TO THIS PROJECT WOULD CURE ANY STORMWATER PROBLEMS AND IT WOULD IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY IN THAT AREA IMMENSELY.

SO I WANTED TO TO.

PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN IF WE DID DO SINCE WE HAVE 24 ACRES AND WE HAD IF WE DID 20 FOR ONE ACRE LOTS, THAT WOULD BE 24 SEPTIC TANKS, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT ON THAT CANAL. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE COUNTY IS HEADED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'D RATHER HAVE SEWER BE BROUGHT IN AND THEN WE KNOW WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

A SUBDIVISION IS NOT GOING TO FIX THAT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ZONING, THEY CAN JUST GO RIGHT TO DEVELOPMENT PRETTY MUCH SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO.

THEY DON'T NEED TO.

OF SOLVE THAT TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

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SO WE WANT TO FIX THAT.

SO WE WANT TO FIX THE STORMWATER.

WE WANT TO FIX THE TRAFFIC.

AND SO WE'RE JUST ADDING ASKING FOR A FEW MORE UNITS TO THE ACRE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCILMAN, MY NAME IS GREGORY SAX, AND I'M PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION.

MAYOR, THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION TO BE WHY NOT REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES FROM ONE SEVENTY SIX TO A LOWER NUMBER? IS THAT CORRECT? THE QUESTION? SIR, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA FROM OUR CITIZENS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON THAT.

SO THAT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

AND WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS ECONOMICS AND NOT MUCH FOR ME, BUT MORE SO FOR THE HOMEBUYERS.

YOU SEE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT AN INVESTOR TYPICALLY MAKES ON A PROJECT IS USUALLY SOME KIND OF RETURN ON CAPITAL NUMBER, WHETHER IT'S EIGHT PERCENT OR 10 PERCENT OR 12 PERCENT, WHATEVER THE RETURN ON CAPITAL IS, IS TYPICALLY FIXED AND PRETTY MUCH FOR ALL DEVELOPERS.

AROUND, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE NATION, IT'S EQUAL, BUT FOR MOST DEVELOPERS, IT'S USUALLY SOME KIND OF VERY TIGHT BAND FOR RETURN ON CAPITAL SO WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE PRICE PER UNIT WOULD PROBABLY BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND THEREFORE THE CITIZENS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD AS MUCH.

AND SO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IS WE WANTED TO PICK A NUMBER THAT WORKED FOR US, THAT WORKED FOR THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THE AFFORDABILITY OF THESE UNITS IS IS THERE. AND WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT EVERYBODY AND I THOUGHT EVERYBODY'S POINTS, BY THE WAY, WERE EXCELLENT POINTS.

THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, THAT ISSUE EXISTS, THAT'S THERE.

IF WE DO NOTHING AND COME BACK IN 10 YEARS, THAT TRAFFIC PROBLEM WILL NOT BE RESOLVED.

THAT'S A SINGLE LANE ROAD.

AND IT JUST BACKS UP AND PEOPLE ARE JUST STUCK UNTIL THE SCHOOL IS FINISHED.

WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

BY ALL THE WAYS WE DISCUSS SPECIFICALLY, THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS TAKING THE FRONTAGE LAND. MOVING, MAKING THAT PART OF MAKING THAT AN EXTENDED TURN LANE THAT WILL GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PROPERTY AND THEREFORE OPENING UP THE STREET SO THAT CARS CAN GO.

WE ALSO HIRED A PROFESSIONAL GROUP, WHICH WE ASKED OUR ATTORNEYS TO PICK THE BEST, AND THAT'S THE GROUP THAT'S MOST WELL-REGARDED.

AND WE ASKED THEM DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.

WE WANT TO PICK THE BEST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PICK SOMEBODY THAT'S OUR FRIEND OR SOMEBODY WE KNOW, WE WANT TO PICK SOMEBODY WHO IS VIEWED BY THE CITY AS RELIABLE.

AND WE DID THAT.

AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY INDICATED THAT HAVING ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX TOWNHOMES HERE WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ISSUES.

ASSUMING PUT IN THE TURN LANES AND DO THE THINGS THAT THEY SUGGESTED, WHICH WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING. AND SO WHILE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF REDUCING THE NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE BENEFIT THAT THE CITY WILL RECEIVE BY HAVING IT LOWER FROM 176 TO ONE 30 OR WHATEVER DECREASE THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.

I DON'T THINK THAT BENEFIT IS GOING TO BE WORTH THE EXTRA COST PER UNIT FOR THE PEOPLE COMING IN TO BUY IT.

WE WOULD RATHER HAVE UNITS THAT ARE MORE AFFORDABLE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH PALM BAY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT'S A GREAT CITY, THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO MOVE INTO THIS CITY, AND AFFORDABILITY IS CERTAINLY NUMBER ONE ON EVERYBODY'S MIND.

AND THAT'S WHY WE PICKED ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX.

IT WAS NOT BY ACCIDENT.

YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER? WELL, YOU'LL BE.

OPEN TO EMERGENCY EXIT.

YES, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA, BY THE WAY.

AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ABOUT THE EMERGENCY EXIT IS I BELIEVE WE CAN START AND BUILD IT AS AN EMERGENCY EXIT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO ALWAYS BE JUST AN EMERGENCY EXIT SO WE CAN HAVE IT START AS AN EMERGENCY EXIT.

AND IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE THAT EMERGENCY

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AND LET ME ALSO ASK YOU THIS.

WITH THE LIKELIHOOD OF HAVING ALL ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX TOWNHOME SOLD WITHIN ONCE YOU COMPLETE THE PROJECT, HOW FAST YOU THINK THE HOMES WILL GO.

YOU KNOW, WE WE THINK GIVEN THE DEMAND TODAY THAT WE THINK WE CAN SELL THESE PRODUCTS WITHIN 12 MONTHS.

ALL ONE, SEVENTY SIX YOU THINK OF OF THAT AFTER THE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, 12 TO 18 MONTHS BECAUSE THERE'S A WAITING LIST FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND AND OF OUR COUNTIES, ESPECIALLY IN PALM BAY, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HELP MY COUSIN FIND A HOUSE HERE AND TODAY, ACTUALLY TODAY WE WENT LOOKING AND WAITING.

AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, MAYBE IT'S QUICKER.

MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THEM ALL SOLD PRIOR TO EVEN BEING FINISHED.

AND WE WILL CERTAINLY START THE PROCESS RIGHT AWAY.

AND THE AND THE GOLF COURSE RIGHT NOW IS APPLIED AT AREA IS A WHAT AREA I'M SORRY PLIGHT.

IT IS RUNDOWN IT'S GOT PEOPLE LIVING.

YES, THE WE WE DROVE BY TODAY AND ACTUALLY I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS ACTUALLY EMBARRASSED.

I MUST SAY, FOR THE CONDITION THAT IT'S IN, IT'S NOT MY STYLE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO AS SOON AS WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO BUSH BUSH HOG THE PROPERTY TO AT LEAST MAKE IT LOOK AS DECENT AS WE CAN IN ITS CURRENT STATE.

IT'S IT POLLUTED. THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH ON THE PROPERTY, THERE IS SOME TRASH, THERE'S BEEN A BUNCH OF VAGRANTS THERE.

WE'VE HAD ISSUES WHERE THE POLICE HAVE ACTUALLY CALLED US AND SAID, YOU HAVE TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT. WE CAN'T KICK A HOMELESS PERSON OFF OF YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS YOU CALL US. SO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T LIVE IN PALM BAY, WE DO GET A PHONE CALL.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE, YOU KNOW, HANDLE IT IMMEDIATELY.

BUT YES, IT HAS BEEN UNFORTUNATELY USED IN WAYS THAT WE ARE DISAPPOINTED.

BUT MR. WALTER SUZANNE CAME UP.

HE'S A REAL ESTATE AGENT.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH HIM AND HE LIVES IN THE AREA AND HE'S SAYING THIS WILL IMPROVE.

THE VALUE OF HIS PROPERTY, AND HE LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE AND CAN NOW.

YOU SEE THAT IN UPLIFTING THE VALUE OF HOMES ON BOVARD.

I DO. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO MAKE THIS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN MAKING THIS ANYTHING BUT A PROJECT THAT WE ARE PROUD OF, THAT WE'RE PROUD TO PUT OUR NAME ON AND THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT IN THE COMMUNITY ARE PROUD OF NOT ONLY THE HOMEOWNERS THAT BUY IT, BUT ALSO THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OF THE HOMES IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, AND WE ARE HIGHLY CONFIDENT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ADD VALUE TO ALL OF THEM.

AND WOULD THERE BE A COMMERCIAL PIECE TO THIS PROJECT? YES. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FRONTAGE SPACE.

RIGHT, RIGHT. PARKING, YES, RIGHT, WITH THE PARK TO PUT SOME COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL FACILITIES, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR IN MIND, BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY LOOK TO PUT WHATEVER THE COMMUNITY THINKS IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

AND I THINK THAT EVERYBODY PULLS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROPE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHATEVER THE COMMUNITY DEMANDS IS WHAT THE YOU KNOW IS THE BEST ENDS UP BEING THE BEST USE FOR A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO MY LAST QUESTION IS YOU COMMITTED TO SOLVING THIS? MAKE SURE THIS TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS SOLVED TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY TO WON'T IMPACT THE SCHOOL OR TO THE RESIDENTS THAT'S GOING TO BE LIVING IN THE TOWN.

YES, SIR, I SURE AM.

OK, THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE REDUCTION OF UNITS AND THE NUMBERS NOT NOT FITTING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT THE ADDITIONAL COST.

WHAT WAS THE PURCHASE PRICE OF THOSE ACRES OR WHAT? OF OF THAT PROPERTY? HOW MUCH DID I PAY FOR THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR. ONE MILLION, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND, I BELIEVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER A MILLION. YEAH, JUST ALMOST 1.2 MILLION.

THE NUMBERS WON'T WORK FOR THERE TO BE REDUCTION OF UNITS.

IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WILL THE NUMBERS WORK? WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK, BUT THE PRICE THE COST PER UNIT ENDS UP GOING HIGHER. I'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR PRICES OF HOMES GO UP EXPONENTIALLY.

SO BY THE TIME YOU BUILD OUT, I ANTICIPATE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET UP THERE.

SO MY MY THOUGHTS WERE, YOU KNOW, HOW LARGE IS THE PROFIT MARGIN BEFORE YOU START GOING INTO A HIGHER LEVEL OF PRICES? WELL, THE THE PROFIT MARGIN, HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD THIS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

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I MEAN, BOARDS OF PLYWOOD THAT USED TO BE $20 ARE NOW $60.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND THE COST OF LABOR AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. SO WHILE WE DID, YOU KNOW, BUY IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND WE DID PAY A GOOD PRICE. THE COST TO BUILD HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THEN.

THANK YOU, SIR. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE COUNCIL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH NINE, ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I GUESS I'M STANDING ALONE ON THIS ONE, GUYS.

THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR.

I LOVE THE FACT THAT AND I KNOW IT'LL BE ADDED ON TO THE QUARSHIE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EMERGENCY EXIT KIND OF LIKE THAT, YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD IN THAT.

I STILL STAND WITH MY INITIAL.

THOUGHTS ON IT. I KNOW THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IMPROVEMENTS, AND I COMMEND THEM FOR THAT.

SAY THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, BUT I THINK SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT IS JUST THE TWO LANE AND ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX UNITS.

THAT'S HUGE. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

YES. IS IT I THINK EVEN WITH ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S ONE THING, THEN THE SECOND THING. I REALLY FEEL.

THE ONE ACRE LOTS AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF NOT ON A FEEDER ROAD.

LISTEN, WE HAVE A GREAT EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITY DOWN BABCOCK STREET.

BABCOCK STREET IS A FEEDER ROAD.

IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT IT'S BREVARD COUNTY, JUST SOUTH OF US UNINCORPORATED BOVARD.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE FEEDER ROAD AND THE OPPORTUNITIES OF OF LARGE HOMES.

BUT I'M STANDING.

I'M STANDING ALONE ON THAT GENTLEMAN.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

I UNDERSTAND. I THINK THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION AND I GET THAT, BUT I'M STILL A NAY VOTE ON THIS ONE.

I'LL BE. I'LL BE BRIEF, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. AND I HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH UNKNOWN IN APRIL.

ON APRIL 1ST, AS MR. OLSZEWSKI MENTIONED, MR. MOYO WASN'T HERE. SOMEBODY ELSE WAS HERE.

AND A LOT OF THE STUFF WE WERE ASKING, I REMEMBER ME COUNCILMAN BAILEY YOURSELF COULDN'T BE ANSWERED BECAUSE THERE WAS A THERE WAS UNKNOWN.

SO IN REGARDS TO WHAT TYPE OF UNITS THEY WERE GOING TO BE, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO FOR TRAFFIC? WAS THERE A TRAFFIC STUDY ON SO MUCH UNKNOWN WHERE A LOT IS CLARIFIED HERE? MRS. KING, I APPRECIATE YOU FOR CLARIFYING A LOT BECAUSE AT FIRST I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS AND THE NEW THE NEW INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED IN REGARDS TO WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE THIS.

THEY HAVE JUST AS MUCH SKIN IN THE GAME AS US.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE RESIDENTS, BUT THESE ARE THEIR CHILDREN AND, YOU KNOW, PARENTS AS WELL. AND ANOTHER THING I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHICH I WAS ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY YOU DID, YOU HAD A MEETING.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE AUDIENCE, BUT IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY FROM WITHIN. WE ONLY HEARD FROM ONE PERSON AND THAT PERSON WAS IN FAVOR OF IT.

SO I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT AS WELL ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT THIS TIME.

ANYONE ELSE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR? I HAVE SOME ENFORCEMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE BLIGHTED AREA.

IT'S THE DESOUZA, THE WALL THAT CISOS, THERE'S RIGHT ACROSS THE CANAL.

RODENTS IS COMING TOWARDS HIS PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE.

A LIVING IN ON A GOLF COURSE, THE ENVIRONMENT, MR. MOYER TALKED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE FIXING THE ENVIRONMENT, WE WE WE'RE CLEANING UP THE AREA.

IT WAS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

NOW, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL ON THAT? ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX UNITS THAT'S NEEDED IN PALM BAY FOR TOWN HOMES.

WE NEED THAT DIVERSITY.

LIVING HOUSES ARE GOING UP.

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PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY, WE CAN LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC.

EVEN WITHOUT THIS STUDY, WE COULD TELL IS A TRAFFIC ISSUE.

THE IS COMMITTED TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, I ASK THEM.

ATTORNEY DID A GREAT PRESENTATION.

THINGS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST MEETING I VOTED FOR THE LAST TIME.

I FEEL MUCH MORE CONFIDENT VOTING FOR THIS TIME BECAUSE YOU GOT A PLAN AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL.

SCHOOL BOARD. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL, AND THAT'S NOT OUR LANE.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SCHOOL.

BUT NOW WE HAVE A DEVELOPER TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WIDEN THE ROAD INTERNALLY.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S A WIN WIN ALL AROUND.

I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN WHO.

BUT WE BROUGHT THIS UP.

I LOOKED AT THIS, I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERN, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT AND I TOOK THAT IN CONSIDERATION. OF.

I'M THINKING. JUST THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE OUR DRAINAGE ISSUES.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SEWER THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE. HELP SOLVE THIS TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE OUR HOUSING PROBLEM.

HELP AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PALM BAY.

AND IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

ON BOVARD AND.

OTHERS STREETS THAT'S GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND IT'S NOT A RURAL.

AREA IS A GOLF COURSE, A COMMERCIAL GOLF COURSE THAT IS.

TO ME, IS RUINING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS NOT USED, AND IT'S AND IS AND IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S INVESTING OVER A MILLION DOLLARS INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITIZEN.

UM, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS.

I'M LOOKING AT ALL DIFFERENT ANGLES AND.

I DON'T WANT TO REDUCE ONE SEVENTY SIX.

WE NEED WE NEED MORE TIME HOMES AND PALM BAY.

YES, WE NEED BIGGER LOTS.

I AGREE WITH MR BATTEN, BUT NOT IN THIS AREA.

IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE.

WE STILL ONE THIRD BUILT BUILD OUT SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN THE COMP PLAN.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

THE WAY IN COUNCILMAN FELIX, YOU NOT REALLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, WE NEARLY SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR DISCUSSING THIS ITEM.

WE'RE BEATING A DEAD HORSE.

WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF.

ALTHOUGH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS ARE NECESSARY, BUT I THINK WE JUST GOT TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS READY TO VOTE, MAYOR.

OK, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED HIS THREE TO ONE MEDINA NAY.

ITEM 16 MS. SMITH RESOLUTION 20 20 TWO DASH ZERO TWO A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS JUPITER BAY, PUDI AND RR ROLL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING WITH A TENTATIVE ZONING OF PUDI LAND UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF JUPITER BOULEVARD AND BREVARD AVENUE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STATE THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL AGAIN, CAMERA ZENKO WITH LACEY LANE, PRESENCA, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT APPLICANTS, I WOULD JUST REITERATE EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE PAST.

I'D ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER THESE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE STAFF REPORT AND THE PURPOSES OF THE PUDDY ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR DIVERSITY, TO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY AND TO ALLOW FOR ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST THAT FIXING THE STORMWATER FIXING OF THE TRAFFIC, HELPING THE SCHOOL BOARD, BRINGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BRINGING UNITS IN.

AND AGAIN, WE'D ASK THAT YOU APPROVE IT, ADDING THE CONDITION OF THE EMERGENCY ACCESS.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED AS A CONDITION, I'D ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TWO THOUSAND TWENTY TWO OH TWO.

AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION, THE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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OH, YOU DON'T NEED TO COME UP.

SO YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD. I'M JUST SPEAKING GENERALLY.

BUT HE MEANT YOU MENTIONED EXPLORING, YOU KNOW, STARTING OFF, POSSIBLY AS AN EMERGENCY ACT ACCESS.

BUT AFTER ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW, BOTH COMMUNITIES, REINDEER AND, YOU KNOW, THE PUDI THAT IF IT IS SEEING THAT BOTH ARE AGREEABLE TOWARDS OPENING IT UP, THEN THAT CAN BE EXPLORED. WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO THAT WITHIN THE MOTION AS WELL? OH, CERTAINLY.

AND IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OK, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC PROCESS HEARING IF THE STAFF AND YOUR YOUR EXPERTS ON STAFF DECIDED THAT IT SHOULD BE AN OPEN.

GOT IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY UP TO YOUR PURVIEW.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN.

YOU KNOW, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO ADD ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? JUST ONE THERE WAS A STAFF COMMENT THAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT ORIGINALLY FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, REGARDING ASKING THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH ANY LANDLOCKED PROPERTY OWNERS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THOSE PARCELS.

THERE IS ONE. IF WE CAN PULL UP THE AERIAL, I GUESS, OF THE AREA, BRIAN, I CAN KIND OF POINT THAT OUT. IT'S A LITTLE.

I GO CLOSER TO JUPITER FOR US DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU, BRUCE. A LITTLE SQUARE HE'S PUTTING OUT RIGHT THERE.

NO, THE PARCEL IS OWNED BY SOME OTHER PARTY, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT JUST FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN STAFF HAD, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESS FROM THAT PARCEL CURRENTLY DOESN'T EXIST AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT THAT THAT BE LOOKED AT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PLANNING, ZONING, THE BOARD DID NOT MAKE THAT PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPROVAL.

SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

IF I MAY, THAT WAS I'M CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN THREE LITIGATIONS OVER EASEMENTS AND ACCESS, AND THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO A PROPERTY WITHOUT DOING TITLE SEARCHES GOING BACK TO THE NINETEEN HUNDREDS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT PARCEL CAME FROM.

SO WE ARE AGREEABLE TO WORK WITH THEM.

I THINK THAT IS IN THERE.

WE JUST CAN'T GUARANTEE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ENTITLED TO IT BY COMMON LAW OR ENTITLED TO IT BY STATUTORY, WHERE THEY HAVE TO PAY THE OWNERS.

SO THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN WHEN I LOOKED AT IT.

THE MAN DOES NEED ACCESS.

IT MAY VERY WELL FIT INTO ACCESS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE MANDATED THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO GIVE THEM ACCESS IF THERE'S A LEGAL REMEDY THAT REQUIRES HIM TO PAY FOR ACCESS.

AND AGAIN, IF IF IT'S JUST HE'S GOING TO JUMP INTO THE ROAD AND PAY THE EXTRA DRIVEWAY, THAT'S PROBABLY FINE.

BUT IF HE'S GOING TO DEMAND ACCESS DIRECTLY TO THE TO THE EAST, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING.

BUT THE MAN WANTS TO MAKE TWENTY PERCENT RETURN ON WHAT HE PAID $5000 FOR.

SO JUST TO.

TO TO TELL YOU IT'S THEY HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING, HE'S NOT FROM HERE, I THINK HE GOT IT A TAX DEED SALE.

HE'S AN INVESTOR AS WELL.

SO I MEAN, WE WILL WORK WITH HIM, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T WANT THE APPLICANT TO BE MANDATED.

MADAM, MADAM ATTORNEY, CERTAINLY THAT IS FAIR, AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG. CERTAINLY, WE DO NOT WANT TO MANDATE, BUT CERTAINLY IF IT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL STAFF WANTS TO BE LOOKED INTO, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE RECEPTIVE TO THAT.

BUT WE DON'T MANDATE THE ACTUAL SOLUTION, BUT WE DO ASK THEM TO CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND ALLOW THEM TO WORK IT OUT PRIVATELY.

NO, I MEAN, FOR THE RECORD, I DO AGREE WITH NOT MANDATING YOU ON THAT FOR SURE.

SO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, DO WE HAVE? SIR, WE HAVE SEVERAL, STARTING WITH MR. BILL BRATTON. BILL BURTON, FIVE EIGHTY SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

TOWNHOMES OWNED BY PRIVATE PARTIES.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT CANNOT BE RENTED OUT.

WHEN THEY SAY NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RENTAL UNITS.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY COULD VERY WELL.

THESE TOWNHOMES COULD VERY WELL BE RENTAL RENTAL UNITS, JUST LIKE A REGULAR HOMEOWNER'S HOUSE COULD BE RENTED OUT ALSO.

BUT AS I LOOK AT IT IS POTENTIALLY A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR ME.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

EMERGENCY EXIT.

OR YOU MIGHT CALL IT EMERGENCY EXIT, BUT I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IF THERE'S A ROAD THROUGH A PIECE OF WOODS, IT'S ONLY 50 FEET WIDE.

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TALK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HALF THE RESIDENTS AROUND, IF SOMEBODY KNOWS A SHORTCUT MIGHT NOT BE A COLLECTOR ROAD, BUT IF THEY CAN GET ON TO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SAVE THEM THREE MINUTES IN THE MORNING, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING RIGHT NOW, WHEREVER THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

SO SAYING ITS EMERGENCY EXIT, ONLY PEOPLE USE IT.

IF THERE'S A WAY TO DRIVE THERE, THEY'RE GOING THERE.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN BACK TO MY LAST QUESTION, IN THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT, I ASKED IF THE COUNCIL WOULD PLEASE TELL ME WHERE.

RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS WITH PEOPLE LIVING NOW.

TELL ME WHERE THAT IS, WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME ESTATES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I KEEP HEARING, THOUGH THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT.

THIS WAS A PLACE THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR IT.

BUT I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER AND I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF REALTORS INVOLVED WITH THIS, AND THERE'S THE RUBBER REALTORS ON THE COUNCIL.

SHOW ME WHERE RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS IN THE CITY.

PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK RURAL RESIDENTIAL MEANS RANCHES AND CATTLE.

NO, IT DOESN'T. RURAL RESIDENTIAL JUST MEANS SOMETHING.

ONE ACRE OR GREATER, AND YOU CAN ONLY BUILD ONE HOUSE PER ACRE.

THAT'S WHAT THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IS.

IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

IT DOES NOT MEAN A FARM.

ON PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. RANDALL OLSAVSKY.

HMM. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI THREE, FOUR EIGHT, BURAK EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST I'M GOING TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AND CLAIM MY THREE MINUTES THAT I GET ON THIS ADDITIONAL ITEM UNAPOLOGETICALLY.

I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR KEEPING YOU OUT OF BED BECAUSE THIS MEETING'S KEEPING ME OUT OF BED MY BEDTIMES. NINE WHEN THERE'S NOT A COUNCIL ENGAGEMENT THAT I NEED TO BE AT.

I'M GOING TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT.

I'M GOING TO BE HERE EVERY NIGHT AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS AND I'M GOING TO CREATE A CONDUCIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR MY FELLOW CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OUR VOICES ARE HEARD.

OUR CITY IS NOT A MERE QUILT AND PATCHWORK OF VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE ALL KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE, GDC.

WE KNOW WHO TO BLAME.

WE KNOW WHAT TO BLAME.

IT'S OUR JOB TO FIX IT.

TEAM COUNCIL CITIZENS, WE HAVE TO FIX IT.

WE HAVE TO MAKE PLANS, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS TO REPAIR THE WRONGS OF YESTERDAY AND PAVE THE ROAD FOR MY BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER AND ALL OF YOUR CHILDREN FOR THE FUTURE OF TOMORROW.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS, SO I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR DRAGGING THINGS ON AND BEATING A DEAD HORSE.

NOW WHAT I WILL USE THIS TIME TO DO IS TO ASK YOU TO NOT USE THIS AGENDA ITEM AS A CEREMONY FOR THAT WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED, WHICH THE SUNSHINE STATE LAW PROHIBITS.

AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU USE THIS PORTION TO CONSIDER WHAT'S AT HAND IS THE LAND USE CHANGE. YES, THIS PROJECT IS WHAT'S AT HAND NOW.

THE MAPPING OF THIS IS WHAT'S AT HAND NOW, SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AS MANAGEABLE AS POSSIBLE. WE COULD STILL QUESTION THE FACT IF IT'S GOING TO BE TOWNHOUSES OR NOT, WE COULD STILL PUT HOUSES ON A MIXED USE SITUATION.

WE COULD STILL REDUCE THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE COULD STILL TAKE THE TIME TO TAKE, PAUSE AND PROPERLY PLAN.

AND NOW AGAIN, I DO NEED TO SHARE ADMIRATION FOR THE APPLICANT FOR COMING FORTH WITH DUE DILIGENCE THIS TIME ROUND.

BUT THE ONLY REASON THAT EVERYBODY FEELS SO WORN OUT BY THIS ISSUE IS OUR TIME WAS WASTED BACK IN APRIL AND AGAIN, WE'RE COMING INTO A SITUATION PRIOR TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BEING DONE THAT NOW ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE IS DONE NOW.

IT'S ALL BROUGHT FORWARD.

THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WITH THIS ISSUE THAT'S WRONG THAT I'M JUST GOING TO LOSE MY TIME IF I TRY TO GET GET IN FRONT OF IT.

BUT SOME THINGS I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT IF WE DID KEEP IT A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THIS, THIS PARCEL OF PROPERTY, SO TO SPEAK.

AND EVEN IF WE DIDN'T DO ONE ACRE LOTS, BUT EVEN IF WE DID, WHEN I SAY LUXURY OR MR., BATTEN SAYS THE STATES, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MILLION DOLLAR HOMES AGAIN.

I IMPLORE EVERYBODY TO COME HANG OUT WITH US, LITTLE PEOPLE HERE AND PALM BAY SOMETHING TO US. DOES IT NEED TO BE A MILLION DOLLARS TO BE ENJOYABLE? THERE COULD BE HOMES FOR A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND ON A NICE SIZED PARCEL OF LAND.

THERE COULD BE HOMES ON A QUARTER ACRE SIZED PARCEL OF LAND LIKE MINE IS.

THINGS COULD OCCUR IF WE WEREN'T CLOSE MINDED AND IF WE WERE OPEN AND IF WE TOOK PAUSE AND WE CONSIDERED ALL FACTORS.

NOW WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK THE VERY OPEN ENDED QUESTION OF WHAT THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO MARKET THESE UNITS AT JUPITER BAY, STARTING AT THE MID WATTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ERROL LAKEN.

ROLAND. OKAY.

NATHAN WHITE. FOLLOWED BY BUTCH IN.

OK. NATHAN WHITE, 13 01 SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.

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SO, YES, FOLLOWING ON SOME OF HIS POINTS AND MAKING SOME OF MY OWN IN ALSO RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY COUNSEL.

AND ACTIONS TAKEN.

SO THIS PHRASE WAS UTTERED, MAN ONCE TO.

I THINK I HEARD IT IN THE APPROPRIATE WORDS, AS OPPOSED TO THE WORDS THAT WERE ACTUALLY USED, MAN WANTS TO USE SELL HIS PROPERTY AS HE SEES FIT AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.

I THINK WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.

AND I KNOW IT WOULD BE GREAT TO LEAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS UP TO STAFF APPROVAL SO THAT THE PUBLIC DIDN'T HAVE TO COMMENT.

BUT I THINK THAT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IS BEING AVOIDED ENOUGH AS IT IS.

AND AS FOR THE COMMENT OF THIS ISN'T THE PLACE FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

UP UNTIL ABOUT SIX MINUTES AGO, THAT WAS FACTUALLY FALSE.

IT WAS ONLY FIVE MINUTES AGO THAT WE COUNCIL CHANGED THAT PLAN USE MAP.

UP UNTIL THEN, IT WAS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

AND THE ARGUMENTS THAT THIS WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE DILAPIDATED GOLF COURSE ARE MOOT AND OBVIOUS BECAUSE.

IT IS NOT A GOLF COURSE ANYMORE.

IT IS AN ABANDONED LOT.

IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A GOLF COURSE AGAIN, AND NO ONE IS MAKING THAT ARGUMENT OR PROPOSING THAT PLAN.

NOR DOES I REALLY THINK, DO YOU THINK MOST PEOPLE WANT THAT? BUT I'M NOT SURE. SO THIS IS OR WAS UNTIL A MOMENT AGO, QUITE LITERALLY THE PLACE FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND I CAN'T HELP BUT AGREE VERY STRONGLY WITH MR. OLSZEWSKI STATEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO NOT HAVE TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS WHEN IT IS SO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT THE CONCLUSION IS FOREGONE.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, DOING THIS IN THE SAME EVENING AS THE CHANGE TO THE COMP PLAN CHANGE PLAN, USE CHANGE IS.

INAPPROPRIATE. AND IT LEADS US ALL TO REALIZE THAT THE COMMENTS WE'RE MAKING NOW ARE FALLING ON DEAF EARS.

BECAUSE WHY WOULD WE HAVE JUST CHANGED THE PLAIN USE MAP FOR THIS PROPERTY? IF THE INTENTION WAS NOT TO? APPROVE THIS NEW PROPOSED USE FOR THE PROPERTY.

IT'S REALLY UPSETTING HOW OBVIOUS IT IS.

BUT I WOULD STRONGLY HOPE AND ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE PUBLIC ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM, AS WELL AS THIS SINCE THEY'RE THE SAME THING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I HAVE KIMBERLY PRESENCA, BRUCE MOYA AND GREGORY SACHS.

SO THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK, YEAH, THE APPLICANT CAN RESPOND TO THE CONSTITUENTS.

UM, MR. SACHS SAID HE'S WILLING TO GATE THAT EMERGENCY EXIT, AND THAT COULD BE A CONDITION AS WELL JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT USED WILLY NILLY.

AND SO IS THAT THE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE CORRECT THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE LIKE A KEY TO TO PREVENT FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC? I BELIEVE WHAT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A BUTTON WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE, OH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE USED IN OTHER COMPLEXES I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH.

SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD ACCESS AT ANY TIME, BUT NOT ALL THE RESIDENTS COULD ACCESS. IT WOULD BE A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE ACCESS.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, I LOOKED AT OUR CHIEF, OUR FIRE RESCUE CHIEF, AND SHE'S NODDING.

YES, SHE'S FAMILIAR WITH IT.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER QUESTION? WHICH, SIR, THE THE QUESTION OF.

I'M NOT SURE, JUPITER BAY, STARTING AT WHAT? AND THAT IS THERE IS AN APPROXIMATE RANGE.

YOU HAVE TO COME UP. ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

IT'S A STATE, MY NAME, GREGORY SACHS.

SACHS CAPITAL GROUP.

SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE TODAY AND COMMIT TODAY WHAT THE PRICES OF THESE UNITS WILL BE IN 12, 18, 24 MONTHS FROM NOW, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES TO FINISH THE PROJECT.

I AM A MAN OF MY WORD.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN LOOKING ANYBODY IN THE EYE AND COMMITTING SOMETHING TO SOMETHING

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AND SO THEREFORE, TO GIVE YOU A PRICE TODAY ON WHAT YOU KNOW, THESE UNITS WILL END UP COSTING IN 18 TO CALL IT 18 MONTHS.

I'M PICKING A NUMBER. MAYBE IT'S 24 MONTHS, MAYBE IT'S 15 MONTHS.

BUT THAT FAR DOWN THE ROAD WITH THE VOLATILITY OF COMMODITY PRICES, WITH THE SHORTAGE OF LABOR, WITH ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ALL KNOW ARE OUT THERE.

IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO LOOK YOU IN THE EYE AND GIVE YOU AN HONEST ANSWER.

THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, MAYOR. OK, WELL, I'M GOING TO.

WELL, I DO WANT MR. SMITH TO, IF SHE CAN ELABORATE AND EDUCATE ON THE PROCESS IN REGARDS TO THE LAND USE AND ZONING BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS MADE IF MS. SMITH CAN CHIME IN REAL QUICK, PLEASE.

YES, THE REASON WHY WE DO LAND USE AND ZONING TOGETHER IS BECAUSE THE ZONING MUCH MATCHED THE LAND USE. SO ONCE WE CHANGE THE LAND USE, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE ZONING BE CHANGED SO THAT IT MATCHES, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING HAS TO MATCH.

THE COMMON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS TO BE CONSISTENT, SO WE CAN'T HAVE A LAND USE AND THEN HAVE AN INCOMPATIBLE ZONING.

SO THAT'S WHY THE TWO GO TOGETHER.

AND OFTENTIMES, I WILL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE IS THE LAND USE.

IF YOU MAKE THE LAND USE, THEN IT GOES TO ZONING.

BUT IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE LAND USE, THE ZONING IS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO FAIL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE ZONING BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY GO TOGETHER.

THEY THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS, BUT THERE ARE THEY'RE DEPENDENT UPON EACH OTHER, SO YOU REALLY CAN'T CHANGE ONE AND LEAVE THE OTHER ON UNMODIFIED IN MOST CASES.

AND THIS IS TO GO INSIDE WITH STATE LAW.

CORRECT. RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, ARE THERE ANY OTHER? I DO HAVE ONE OTHER AND I'M SPEAKING GENERALLY TO YOU, MR. SACKS, BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE'RE NOT DEFINING WHAT AFFORDABLE IS.

SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO I'M WITH I'M WITH YOU, MR. OCISLY, ON THAT, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO GIVE A DEFINITE ANSWER.

IT'S HARD. IT'S HARD FOR ME AGAIN TO COMMIT.

SO WHAT I WILL SAY ON A NONCOMMITTAL BASIS IS I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE MID 2S WOULD PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, IS WHERE I WOULD IF I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL AND PICTURE IT, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO PUT A NUMBER.

I WOULD PROBABLY SAY TWO AND A QUARTER TO TWO POINT SEVENTY FIVE, MAYBE TWO AND A QUARTER TO THREE HUNDRED FOR SOME OF THE LARGER UNITS.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME OUT.

BUT AGAIN, I CANNOT LOOK YOU IN THE EYE AND AND HAVE THAT BE A COMMITTED NUMBER BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE COMMODITY PRICES WILL BE.

OK. AND BUT THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME SOMETHING.

SO THANK YOU. THEY ALSO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OF THE APPLICANT.

YOU DON'T HAVE A CARD IN, SIR.

YOU DON'T HAVE A CARTOON AND.

YEAH, HE HE PUT A CARD IN FOR ITEM 15, WHICH DIDN'T NEED A CARD.

OR THE. YEAH.

YOU COULD YOU COULD SPEAK AND FILL OUT THE CARD, BUT IT'S.

BLUE CARDS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ORANGE.

SO PERHAPS I'LL DELAY FOR ONE SECOND, BECAUSE THIS IS.

WOULD YOU GIVE THEM THE BLUE CARD? DIFFERENT THAN THE ORANGE CARD.

IT'S AN OFF SPEAKER CARD IS THE DIFFERENCE, SIR.

SO BRIEFLY AGAIN, MY NAME IS SCOTT WILDER, SUZANNE, I'M WITH BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY, FLORIDA REALTY, I LIVE AT FIVE 18 HATCHER STREET RIGHT THERE BEHIND THIS PROPOSED COMPLEX.

WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PRICE, POINT VALUE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY BRING UP TO YOU RIGHT NOW.

IN THE GREATER CITY OF PALM BAY, YOU HAVE THE AVERAGE PRICE PER ACRE IS GOING TO BE AROUND THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPLETE BUILD MINIMALLY, THAT'S THAT'S A FRAME HOME.

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NO, NO AMENITIES ON A POINT ONE, SEVEN OF AN ACRE.

YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

AND IF YOU WANTED TO GO TO A FULL ACRE OF LAND, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY IN A SIX TO SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND CASTLE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, THEY DID THIS DOWN A DEER RUN AND JUST OFF A BABCOCK.

AND I KNOW I'VE SOLD TWO OF THOSE PLACES IN THIS HIGH $800 $800.

SO WHY WOULD WE EVEN CONSIDER THIS LITTLE SECTION OF PROPERTY TO BE A FULL ACRE LAND OR EVEN A QUARTER OF AN ACRE IS JUST OVER OVER OVERBUILDING FOR THAT AREA? IT'S IT'S NOT USING THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY.

THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY IS TO MAKE MULTIPLE MULTIFAMILY HOMES AND KEEP THEM AT A REASONABLE PRICE.

YOU'VE GOT TO THINK AT A TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND PROPERTY, YOUR AVERAGE, YOUR AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS PROBABLY GOING TO BE AROUND MAYBE TWELVE TO FOURTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH. THAT IS IN COMPARISON TO THE SAME APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

JUST DOWN ON ROBERT CONNOLLY.

THERE'S SIXTEEN HUNDRED BUCKS FOR A TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH.

SO WHY WOULDN'T WE CONSIDER HAVING AFFORDABLE HOMES RIGHT BEHIND A SCHOOL RIGHT BEHIND TWO SCHOOLS, WHICH IS THE MY HUSBAND'S BEING A TEACHER AT SOUTHWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL IS THE REASON WE MOVED TO PALM BAY.

NOW HE'S OVER AT HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL AND WE DEAL WITH THAT TRAFFIC.

THAT'S EVEN CRAZIER.

BUT NEVERTHELESS, BACK TO THE POINT OF IT.

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A AFFORDABLE PROPERTY RIGHT NEAR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. I THINK IT'S A WIN WIN IN EVERYBODY'S SITUATION THERE.

KNOW IT'S A QUESTION HE'S SPEAKING.

UM. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN SELLING REAL ESTATE IN PALM BAY IN PALM BAY? WELL, ME PERSONALLY SELLING REAL ESTATE, I'VE BEEN LICENSED FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS, BUT I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY TWO WHEN MY MOTHER STARTED STERLING PROPERTIES. OK.

BUT YOU YOU HAVE SOLD AND LISTED ABSOLUTE STADIUM PALM BAY.

ABSOLUTELY. AND MY PARTNER DO ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE MARKET LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE? I KNOW WE TRY TO GET AN ANSWER HOW MUCH MR. SACHS CAN GIVE US A PRICE? WELL, FORTUNATELY, WITH MR. SACHS SITUATION, HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FOR A REALLY GOOD RATE.

HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AT A REALLY GOOD PRICE, SO HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOMES THERE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE.

LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THIS PROPERTY THAT'S LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW.

NEXT ONE PROBABLY GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU GUYS TWELVE POINT THREE ACRES, THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS.

TWO AND A HALF ACRES, $400000.

LET'S SEE. THREE ACRES RIGHT HERE, TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO IF WE WERE TO GO BUY WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE MARKET TODAY? HE'S GOT A $5 MILLION PLUS PARCEL OF LAND, WHICH HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THAT THAT THAT EXTRA MONIES THERE BY MAKING IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

HMM. AND ALSO A.

LOTS OF HOUSES ON ACRE LOTS.

WHAT'S NORMALLY THE AVERAGE TIME ON MARKET, 60 TO 90 DAYS MINIMALLY TO BE SOLD? YES, SIR. IT WAS NOT.

A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING TO BREVARD COUNTY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND LOTS OF MONEY MAINTAINING IT.

THE MAINTENANCE PROBLEM IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE AND WE CAN GO JUST BY THE SURROUNDING HOUSES OFF OF BREVARD AVENUE AND OFF OF HATCHER STREET.

WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT WELL-MAINTAINED.

THIS BEING IN HEYA, IT'S GOING TO BE NICE AND BEAUTIFUL AND WELL-KEPT.

WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A HOUSE ON AN ACRE? WELL, AVERAGE PRICE AND HOUSE IN AN ACRE IN THIS AREA.

IF IT WAS A MULTI LOT SITUATION, KNOW THIS, A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, ONE IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND BECAUSE THEY DON'T SELL VERY OFTEN.

THEIR FAMILY, THEIR FAMILY PROPERTIES, A LOT OF THEM ARE PASSED DOWN THROUGH FAMILY.

BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND MINIMALLY.

ONE HOUSE? YEAH, OK.

JUST FOR THE LAND ALONE, WE'VE GOT THREE PEOPLE ON ON HATCHER STREET THAT HAVE MULTI MULTI LOTS.

EACH ONE OF THEIR LOTS IS WORTH FORTY TO FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS RIGHT NOW.

JUST FOUR POINT TWO, THREE OF AN A.

THAT'S UNDONE, THAT'S UNFINISHED, HAS NO ELECTRICITY, NO WATER, NO NOTHING.

IT'S JUST BEING USED AS A PLACE FOR THE DOGS TO GO RUN IN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? NO THANKS.

BECAUSE I TAKE IT.

OKAY. ALSO, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE SPEEDY 48 DASH TWENTY TWENTY ONE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF COMMENTS AND THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR SUBMITTAL WITH THE FINAL PWD APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THE ADDITION TO PROVIDE ACCESS

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OK. I MEAN, TO SAY COORDINATE THE ACCESS FOR PARCEL SEVEN, FIFTY TWO AND THE ADDITION OF THE EMERGENCY EXIT WITH THE CONTENT OF PURSUING FULL ACCESS IF NEEDED.

I CAN. AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

HE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

YOU NONE ALL IN FAVOR ARE PASSES THREE TO ONE MEDINA NAY.

BEFORE WE GO ON TO CONSENT, I'M GOING TO BREAK FOR FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

THANK YOU ALL THE HOUSE FOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

WE'RE ON CONSENT AGENDA AND MS. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TO READ OUT THOSE PUBLIC CARDS HAVE ITEMS NINE, 14 15.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

NINE, 14, 15, 17.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

YOU ALSO WISH TO PULL ANY ADDITIONAL ITEM.

THEY'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEMS NINE, 14, 15 TO 17 FROM THE CONSENT.

IT'S THE MOST MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN, ON THIS ONE? IN NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, I AS IS UNANIMOUSLY MS. SMITH. YES, SIR.

RESOLUTION 2020 TWO DEATHS ZERO THREE A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING INCONVENIENT PROPERTY IS RECORDED IN PLAT.

TWENTY TWO PAGES ONE POINT TWENTY FIVE THREE ONE POINT THIRTY SEVEN FOR THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE RESOLUTION.

TWENTY TWENTY TWO, THAT'S ZERO FOR A RESOLUTION TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. SELLING INCONVENIENT PROPERTY IS RECORDED IN BOOK TWENTY SIX PAGES 12 THROUGH 16 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

OR IS TWENTY TWENTY TWO? THAT'S TEN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, A MINIMUM CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER FIFTY TWO LAWS SUBCHAPTER CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD BY REPEALING THE SUBCHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ORDNANCE, 20, 22 DEATHS 12.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER FIFTY FIVE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT PENSION PLAN. MODIFYING THE MINIMUM DISTRIBUTION OF BENEFITS AND MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER NINE.

[9. Ordinance 2022-11, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 52, Boards, by creating a new subchapter to be titled 'Code Enforcement Special Magistrate', first reading.]

OR THIS 20, 20 TO DASH 11, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, OMITTING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER FIFTY TWO BOARD BY CREATING A NEW SUBCHAPTER TO BE TITLED CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR OF JOHNSON MR., BILL BATTIN.

OPEN FILE CODE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. ROBERT, IN FIVE EIGHTY SIX OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, RIGHT? I GOT FINED BY I'VE GOT A NOTICE BY THE CODE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRASS,

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I PUT COMPOST MATERIAL DOWN WITH GRASS SEED AND I'M.

AND AS A RESULT, BECAUSE I WANTED THE GRASS TO LOOK GOOD AND I WANTED MY FRONT YARD TO LOOK NICE. WELL, I WAS CODED BY CODE COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? AND BY THE TIME IT WAS ALL OVER, I WAS FACING AN EXCESS OF TWENTY THOUSAND FINE FOR DOING THAT TO THE FRONT OF MY OWN PROPERTY.

I SEE THE NEXT PICTURE, PLEASE, AND COULD YOU POSSIBLY ROTATE IT JUST IN CASE? I TRIED AND I COULDN'T GET THAT RIGHT.

BUT AS YOU LOOK DOWN THE ROAD, YOU SEE IT'S NICE, NEAT, STRAIGHT.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S REALLY INTERRUPTING WHAT I WOULD HAVE CONSTITUTED EVEN A NOTICE FROM CODE COMPLIANCE ON.

I HAVE THE NEXT PICTURE, PLEASE.

AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE BILL BURTON BEING WHO BILL BRATTON IS, I TRY TO TAKE CARE OF BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

I TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE STREET, BUT THOSE PILES OF GRASS RIGHT THERE, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY LEFT OUT ON THE STREET THAT I RAKED UP AND CLEANED UP FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. NOW THIS IS WHAT I CONSIDER CODE COMPLIANCE IN AS THEIR PRIMARY MISSION TO TYPE OF ACTIONS THEY'RE TAKING.

I HAVE THE NEXT PICTURE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. THIS IS ON THE SAME STREET.

THIS IS WHAT I CONSIDER CODE COMPLIANCE PROBLEMS, IT'S ON THE SAME STREET.

BUT I FACED WHAT THIS IS GOING ON.

WELL, SO THAT LEADS ME INTO MY QUESTIONS ABOUT TONIGHT'S FOR THIS CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

RIGHT. ONE OR MORE SPECIAL MAGISTRATES.

AT WHAT COST DOES THAT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE GOING TO BE IN COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE BOARD AND A MAGISTRATE? OK, NEXT QUESTION IS HOW TO CHALLENGE BEFORE YOU'RE FACED WITH THE FINE.

THAT WAS THE SAME QUESTION I'VE BEEN HAVING FOR YEARS ON PAGE ON SECTION EIGHT NINE THREE POINT ONE THREE EIGHT PAGE FOUR FOUR EIGHT.

IT DOESN'T SAY HOW I COULD QUESTION THIS BECAUSE I WANT I CHALLENGED AND QUESTION THIS.

THERE WAS NO WAY I COULD EVEN ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH WHAT THEY WERE CHARGING ME WITH, AND I FOUND THAT WRONG AND I ADDRESSED IT THIS CLEAR BACK IN TWENTY SIXTEEN WHEN I WHEN THIS HAPPENED AND STILL THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE IN THE PROCESS AND THE PROCESS IS WHAT IS FAILING. ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHERE YOU GUYS CAN POSSIBLY EVEN ANSWER SOMETHING FOR ME AND SAY, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF GOING WITH ONE MAGISTRATE OR POSSIBLY MORE THAN ONE MAGISTRATE TO THE IN THIS DIRECTION? WHAT IS IT WE'RE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM? SO WHY WAS THE WHY WAS THE MEANS OR THE NECESSITY FOR THE CHANGE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I STILL LOVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU, MR. KEITH.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ONE, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO.

TAKE SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS OR RESPOND TO SOME OR HAVE.

WELL, I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT PATRICIA A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE SHE'S MORE OF THE LEAD ON THIS. BUT I CAN CONTRIBUTE AS NEEDED.

YEAH. WELL, AS FAR AS THE WHERE THIS ORIGINATED, THIS ACTUALLY ORIGINATED FROM COUNCIL.

THIS WAS AN ITEM IN WHICH COUNCIL THERE.

I DON'T RECALL THE MEETING, BUT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL THAT WE MOVED TO HAVING A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AS OPPOSED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AS FAR AS THE COST OF.

ANY COST IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN, OF COURSE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD MEMBERS ARE UNPAID. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AS FAR AS WHAT THE RATE IS, I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE IS A CURRENT RFP THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL WE WILL FIND OUT DURING THE PROCESS AND WHEN WE'RE CONTRACTING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PROCESS NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED IT YET.

AND AS FAR AS THE CHALLENGING IT.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE PRIOR TO THE ASSESSMENT OF ANY FINES, SHE WOULD BE ENTITLED TO A HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD AND YOU'D BE ABLE TO MAKE YOUR CASE.

SO I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU AND I CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

I'M SORRY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AS RELATED TO THAT BECAUSE THE BOARD CAN ASSESS ANY TYPE OF FINES OR LIENS AGAINST YOU WITHOUT PROVIDING YOU A HEARING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND SO PART OF THAT DISCUSSION ALSO CAME WHEN WE DISCUSSED HOW BREVARD COUNTY DOES THEIR THEIR THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND HOW THE MAGISTRATE GOES.

SO I KNOW PART OF THIS PROCESS IS ALSO GOING TO BE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AS WELL.

BUT I THINK IT'S IT'S AN EFFICIENT WAY OF OF DEALING WITH OUR CODE ISSUES AND AND I I'M

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SO ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? AND USE A MOTION A MOTION APPROVED HORNETS 20 20 TO DASH 11, FIRST READING SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? IN NONE, ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON ITEM 14.

HMM. MARY, I HAD ACTUALLY ASKED A DEPUTY MAYOR IF HE WOULD PULL THIS FOR ME.

[14. Consideration of an Addendum Counteroffer to the purchase offer for City- owned surplus real estate, generally located at 1230 Jacob Street SE, from buyer Fred DeNicci Construction ($70,000).]

THIS IS THE REQUEST RELATED TO PROPERTY.

12:30 JACOB STREET SOUTHEAST COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED US TO ACCEPT A HIGHEST AND BEST OFFER OF ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE OH FIVE ON THIS PARCEL.

THE BUYER OR PROSPECTIVE BUYER DID HIS DUE DILIGENCE AND CAME BACK WITH A COUNTEROFFER FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE REPORT, LARGELY RELATED TO THE COST OF WATER AND SEWER. AND THE COUNTEROFFER WAS SEVENTY THOUSAND.

AND AS AS I'VE DISCUSSED AND IS IN THE MEMO, THE RECENT CMS REFLECTED A POTENTIAL OFFER VALUE COULD BE CLOSER TO ONE HUNDRED AND ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED NINETY FOUR DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER THAT, OR IT CAN STAND FAST.

PUT IT BACK ON THE MARKET.

IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU ALL.

COUNCILMAN, I'M GOOD WITH A COUNTEROFFER OF OF A HUNDRED AND ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY FOUR DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN FELIX, I THINK HE WANTED TO WEIGH IN.

I SEE HIM MOVING IN.

IT SEEMS LIKE HE WAS ON THE NUMBERS, RIGHT? UM, MAYOR.

THE APPRAISER CAME BACK WITH WHAT TIME? I MEAN, NOT WHAT TIME, WHAT, WHAT AMOUNT ONE OH, ONE ONE OH ONE WAS SUGGESTING AMOUNT SUGGESTED THAT MOM. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

IS THAT? THAT PALM BAY JOHNSON YOU GOING TO WEIGH IN? OK, WELL, THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION A MOTION AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ADDENDUM OR PROVIDE A COUNTEROFFER OF 100 101 THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED NINETY FOUR DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS FOR THE CITY OWN SURPLUS REAL ESTATE, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 12 30 JACOB STREET SOUTHEAST.

SECOND, THAT I HAVE A MOTION OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON SEEING, BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSED HIS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER 15.

BILL BATTON. GILBERTSON, FIVE SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

[15. Consideration of accepting the Community Development Block Grant - Mitigation Critical Facility Hardening Program grant awards for the Police Main Station (Matching HMGP Funding/Replacement Generator) and the Police Substation (Replacement Generator/Hurricane Shutters).]

I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT GOOD JOB.

THE NEXT QUESTION WAS WHERE IS THE GENERATOR GOING TO BE RELOCATED TO IT? BECAUSE THIS IS JUST STUPIDITY ON BATTENS PART.

I SEE THAT CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THE NORTHWEST WITH THE NORTHEAST CORNER ALONG MALABAR. I WONDERED IF THAT'S WHERE THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON THERE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY AND THE RELOCATION.

BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE FIRE STATION, IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

IF NOT, WHEREVER IT'S GOING TO BE.

THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF MY POCKETBOOK.

WELL, IT IS BECAUSE IT COMES FROM GOVERNMENT, BUT FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I SHOULD SAY I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF IT.

AND ONE MORE TIME. GOOD JOB ON GETTING A GRANT THAT PAID THE TOTAL AMOUNT.

THANK YOU. HEATHER? MADAM MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE PARCEL THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS RIGHT ALONG MALABAR, JUST TO THE EAST OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A LITTLE MEDICAL OFFICE TYPE BUILDING THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED THERE.

I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND WHERE WE'RE RELOCATING THE GENERATOR TO.

I JUST KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW WHERE IT IS.

THE FUMES GET CAUGHT UP INTO THE BUILDING, SO THAT CLEARLY NEEDS TO CHANGE.

SO OFFHAND, I COULDN'T TELL YOU, THOUGH.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION COUNCILMAN MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEAL AGREEMENT, NO.

I ZERO ONE FOUR SEVEN CITY OF PALM BAY MS. AGREEMENT, MAIN STATION, MALABAR AND DEO AGREEMENT NO.

I ONE ZERO FOUR EIGHT.

CITY OF PALM BAY IN MITT AGREEMENT SUBSTATION AWARD AGREEMENTS AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN INITIAL AGREEMENT IN ANY FURTHER GRANT MODIFICATIONS UNDER THESE AWARDS. AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ALL IN FAVOR, HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

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I THINK CAMERA, THIS IS THE OTHER ONE, I ASKED DEPUTY MAYOR IF YOU COULD PULL FOR ME, I

[17. Consideration of extending temporary benefits to City personnel for relief related to COVID- 19 exposure.]

SO THIS IS AN ITEM RELATED TO REQUESTS TO CONTINUE TO OFFER COVID LEAVE BANK HOURS TO EMPLOYEES IF THEY HAVE A POSITIVE COVID TEST.

AS YOU'LL RECALL THEM FOR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION, WE PREVIOUSLY SET ASIDE COUNCIL APPROVED USE OF ARPA FUNDS TO COVER HOURS FOR EMPLOYEES, AND THAT WAS FOR THE PERIOD OF JULY 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST.

WE DID ALL KIND OF HOPE.

WE WERE OUT OF THE WOODS WITH THIS, BUT IN LATE DECEMBER WE STARTED TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CASES AMONG EMPLOYEES WHERE WE HAD GONE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH HARDLY ANY POSITIVES.

AND IN ABOUT A TWO WEEK PERIOD, WE'VE HAD APPROXIMATELY 37 POSITIVE CASES OF OUR EMPLOYEES. AND EARLIER TODAY HAD A SMALL ON SITE INSURANCE RUN TEST SITE FOR EMPLOYEES.

WE HAD 53 EMPLOYEES WHO VOLUNTARILY WERE TESTED AND ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF THOSE WERE POSITIVE. SO CHERYL, THAT TO SAY THIS REQUEST, AS IT ORIGINALLY WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, IS TO EXTEND A 40 HOUR LEAVE BANK TO ALL EMPLOYEES, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID BEFORE FROM THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST TO MARCH 31ST, AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL 40 HOUR LEAVE BEING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL SPECIFICALLY OUT THERE WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC.

THE MODIFICATION TO THIS THAT I'D LIKE TO MENTION AND REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR IS TO CHANGE FROM 40 HOURS TO 80 HOURS FOR THE CORPS LEAVE BANK.

THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH.

IT WAS ONLY RECENTLY THAT THE CDC CHANGED THEIR GUIDANCE RELATED TO FIVE DAY, 10 DAY QUARANTINE PERIOD, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF EMPLOYEES INFECTING OTHER EMPLOYEES AND OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONAL CONTINUITY.

SO MY QUESTION ESSENTIALLY IS WOULD YOU CONSIDER INSTEAD OF THE BASE, 40 HOURS? A BASE OF 80 HOURS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP THEM OUT FOR LONGER IF NEEDED TO, AND THEY DON'T MAKE THE DECISION TO COME BACK IN SOONER SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT USING LEAVE TIME OR THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE LEAVE TIME.

THAT AFFECT THE FIRST RESPONDERS, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE WE MOURN FOR.

AND WE I THINK DO WE DO 80 AND 80 LAST TIME? OR WAS IT 80 40? LIBOR WAS 80 40.

IT WOULD BE THE SAME MODEL WE USE FROM THE JULY THROUGH DECEMBER PERIOD, JUST REPLICATED FROM. JANUARY 1ST THROUGH MARCH 31ST, AND JUST FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION, WE HAD THE AMOUNT OF ARPA FUNDING THAT WAS SPENT FOR THAT PAST PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS WAS A LITTLE OVER ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND OF THE ARPA FUNDING.

SO HOW MUCH IS HOW MUCH WOULD THIS BE? WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT BASED ON PROJECTIONS, IF IF YOU JUST DO ROUND NUMBERS OF ALL NINE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES, USE IT.

IF YOU USE THE WE PUT AN AVERAGE HOURLY RATE OF ABOUT $20 IN HERE.

IF YOU DID THE MATH ON IT, IT WOULD BE WELL OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.

YEAH, FOR THE UPDATED NUMBERS.

COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER. YOU HAVE A COUNT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL.

YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF THOSE WAS COVID POSITIVE? WE'VE OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, CHARLENE COX, HAS SOME OF THAT INFORMATION I WOULD ASK HER TO COME UP. SHARE THAT.

NO, MS., CHARLENE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CHARLENE A.

COX, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR FOR THOSE NUMBERS, JUST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THIS IS AS OF JULY THE 1ST 2021 FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF THIRTY EIGHT AND FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 22.

AND DO YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN NON PUBLIC SAFETY PERSON, HOW MANY BESIDES THOSE TWO IT WAS, IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF THERE WERE A TOTAL ALTOGETHER OF ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX ALTOGETHER. AND THAT'S SUBTRACTING, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WERE TO SUBTRACT FIRES 22 AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS 38, WHATEVER THAT IS UP TO.

SIXTY ONE, THIRTY ONE, THIRTY SIX, SEVENTY SIX.

SO SEVENTY SIX FOR THE.

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UM. SO THE QUESTION I HAVE.

THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I DON'T MEAN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE AN EXTENSION TO THE TEMPORARY BENEFITS TO CITY PERSONNEL RELATED TO COVID 19 80 HOUR LEAVE BANK TO BE FUNDED BY THE CITY'S ALLOCATION UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

YOU ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

BRITTA KELLNER, SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER STAFF HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH OUR FEDERAL LOBBYING FIRM ACADIAN AND TO DEVELOP ITEMS THAT ADDRESS THE CITY'S MOST CRITICAL PRIMARY PRESSING NEEDS, BOTH ON THE FUNDING AND THE POLICY SIDE.

AND SO WE BROUGHT FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION, STARTING WITH OUR FUNDING REQUESTS, THE MALABAR WIDENING A TWO AND A HALF MILLION PROJECT REQUEST AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

AND MALABAR, AS YOU KNOW, IS A PRIMARY VESSEL IN NEED OF WIDENING.

WE'VE GOTTEN IT ELEVATED THANKS TO COUNCIL AGAIN ON THE PROJECT MPO PRIORITY LIST, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THERE.

BUT IN ORDER TO DO SO, WE DO NEED TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING ASSISTANCE OR TO TO TO PURSUE.

WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR HELP WITH OUR SEPTIC TO SEWER, KNOWING THAT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF FUNDING IS COMING DOWN THROUGH EPA AND FDP.

AND THAT WOULD BE A $3 MILLION ASK FOR A ROUGHLY TWO HUNDRED PARCELS.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE LATERAL THE THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THAT PROJECT SHOULD SHOULD IT BEGIN.

AND THE LAST FUNDING REQUEST IS, OF COURSE, ARRL OUR OUR BABY OR WATER OUT THERE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO TAKE ON WATER QUALITY PROJECTS THAT ARE MEANINGFUL AND END UP WITH AN INCREASE IN NUTRIENT REDUCTION AND ENHANCE OUR WATERWAYS.

SO WE'VE REQUESTED ONE POINT FIVE MILLION AS LOCAL MATCH FOR ANY OTHER GRANTS THAT WE WOULD APPLY FOR TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DRAW MONEY DOWN FOR THAT THAT PROJECT.

AND ON THE POLICY SIDE, WE ARE ASKING FOR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR DOJ GRANTS, HOMELAND SECURITY EPA REGULATIONS, WHICH AT THIS POINT LOOK LIKE THERE COULD BE SOME CONCERNS WITH WATER QUALITY.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT INVOKING REGULATIONS THAT WOULD AFFECT ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF FLORIDA'S WATERWAYS IN A NEGATIVE MANNER.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT OUR LOBBYING TEAM SUPPORTS FULL HUD AND CDBG FUNDING AND SUPPORT OF OUR FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD READINESS CENTER THAT'S PROPOSED AT THE MALABAR SPACE FORCE ANNEX.

AND SO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WE'D LIKE TO GAIN ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE, THESE ARE ALL. NOT WEIGHT IN ANY PARTICULAR MANNER, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT OUR LOBBYING TEAM HAS A LATITUDE TO NEGOTIATE AND SPEAK WITH OUR VARIOUS LAWMAKERS AS TO WHAT IS FEASIBLE NOT ONLY IN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT FUNDING STREAMS THAT COULD COME FORWARD IN THE NEXT TWO, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AS WELL.

YOU, MA'AM. I SEE THE HARD WORK YOU'VE ACTUALLY DONE AND AND A LOT OF THESE ARE ARE, IF YOU ASK ME, THEY'RE THEIR BENEFIT, OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

I LOVE THE FACT YOU ADDED THE NATIONAL GUARD READINESS CENTER PROJECT HERE AT THE AIR FORCE ANNEX. ABSOLUTELY, MALABAR ROAD WIDENING THAT, THAT IS HUGE.

WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE, SO SEPTIC TO SEWER, I THINK THESE ARE OUTSTANDING PRIORITIES.

COUNCIL. AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YEAH, I LIKE I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR, EVERYTHING YOU SAID. THE NATIONAL GUARD IS DEAR TO ME, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR US TO HAVE THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD AND PALM BAY.

BUT ALSO LIKE TO SET THE SILVER.

AND MY QUESTION IS, CAN THE LOBBYISTS BECAUSE I HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH HIM ON ABOUT AN HOUR ON THE PHONE WITH HIM? CAN THEY GET THESE LOOK FOR GRANTS FOR US? CONTACT US AND THE MONEY COME DIRECTLY TO PALM BAY.

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UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S REALLY VERY LITTLE, IF ANY, DIRECT ALLOCATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.

BUT OUR LOBBYING TEAM IS WELL VERSED IN THAT PROCESS AND THEY HAVE HANDS ON IN TERMS OF EVERY REGULATORY AGENCY THAT IS GOING TO BE FUNNELING FUNDING DOWN.

SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT DEP EPA FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE FEDS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING THE MONEY THROUGH.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT HAD FINALLY PASSED THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.

ONE THING WE DON'T HAVE ON HERE IS FIRES.

FIRE STATIONS, FIRE.

I MEAN, WE REALLY NEED TO SUPPORT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE CITY IS GROWING AND WE NEED WE NEED THAT SUPPORT.

SO. ESPECIALLY WE HAD HOMELAND SECURITY CAN BE.

YOU KNOW, GET SOMETHING OUT OF THAT FOR MY LOBBYISTS, CAN WE FOCUS A LITTLE BETTER? WE WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

WE'VE WE'VE ACTUALLY JUST SENT A GRANT OVER OUR FIRE CHIEF WORKED ON A GRANT LAST SPRING THAT WAS NOT APPROVED.

AND SO WE HAD OUR LOBBYING TEAM HELP US LOOK IT OVER AND HAD A SIT DOWN WITH THE GRANTING AGENCY, WHICH WAS FEMA.

AND TAKE A LOOK AT THESE APPLICATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ASSURE THEM UP THEN THAT THEIR BEST THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY BE IN THAT CONVERSATION.

OUR LOBBYING TEAM WAS DISCUSSING THE PROBABILITY OF OF FUNDING FIRE STATIONS AND FOR SOME PARTICULAR REASON, FIRE STATIONS ARE NOT FUNDED AS OFTEN AS OTHER TYPES OF FIRE NEEDS ARE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE QUINTS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE FIRE TRUCKS, AIR BOTTLES, AIR PACKS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE MORE FREQUENTLY FUNDED THAN YOU WOULD A CAPITAL PROJECT LIKE A BUILDING. HOWEVER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PRESS FOR THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED IT.

THERE ARE OTHER FUNDING STREAMS OUT THERE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE TO MAKE SURE THAT FIRE HAS THE STATIONS, THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE CITY.

OK, THANK YOU. UH-HUH.

NO, MA'AM. THE THE FEDERAL FUNDING TYPICALLY GOES TO THE STATE AGENCIES AND THEN THE STATE AGENCIES FUNNEL IT TO THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES.

YES. CORRECT. YES, MARY.

AND I DO HAVE SOME ROUGH NUMBERS.

IF IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WHAT MAGNITUDE OF FUNDING IS COMING AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO.

WE ESTIMATE THAT A FORMULA GRANT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S PREDETERMINED.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SHOT AT ALTERING THE AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY $13 BILLION FOR FEDERAL HIGHWAY PROGRAMS COMING THROUGH THE STATE.

ANOTHER TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE MILLION FOR BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND SOME OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. AND WE HEAR QUITE A LOT ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW WITH RESILIENT FLORIDA AND READY FLORIDA, OUR GOVERNOR'S PROGRAMS, THAT A LOT OF THAT MONEY WILL BE COMING THROUGH HIS JURISDICTION AS WELL.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT TWENTY SIX MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS TO PROTECT AGAINST NATURAL DISASTERS. SO THAT IS OUR RESILIENCY ARE FLOODING OUR MITIGATION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THE CITY UNDERTAKES WITH GRANT FUNDING AND THEN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT ONE POINT SIX BILLION COMING THROUGH FLORIDA OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO THERE IS A QUITE A BIT OF MONEY THAT WE WE WE KNOW IS COMING.

I'M NOT SURE WHEN IT'S COMING, BUT WE PLAN TO BE PREPARED FOR IT.

AND OUR LOBBYING TEAM IS THERE TO HELP US MANEUVER THAT BOTH AS A FEDERAL AND THE STATE LEVEL. YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

MY PLEASURE. WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE TWENTY TWENTY TWO FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES SO I CAN MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THE OTHER QUESTION.

ALL IN THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, MS. SHERMAN MIR, I APOLOGIZE.

I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE YOUR PERMISSION TO GO BACK BRIEFLY TO CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 17 STAFF AND EVERYONE HAS CONFIRMED THAT I MISSED WHEN YOU MADE THE MOTION.

IT WAS FOR THE 80 HOURS, BUT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL 40 FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WAS YOUR INTENTION.

I APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM.

I THOUGHT I JUST ANTICIPATED IT WAS PART OF IT.

IT WASN'T IN THE IT WAS THE INTENT, BUT IT PROBABLY WASN'T IN THE MOTION.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE. CAN WE GO BACK PROCEDURALLY? YES, YOU SHOULD DO ANOTHER MOTION.

OK, I'LL AMEND MY EMOTIONS AND INCLUDE THE EXTRA 40 HOURS.

THEN TECHNICALLY, HE'S GOT TO WITHDRAW HIS SECOND RIGHT.

I THINK ABOUT THE I WITHDRAW MY SECOND, I'M IN MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THE 40 HOURS AN HOUR

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THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT WAS THE INTENT, THOUGH I THOUGHT HE ANYWAY, WHY MR. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER, NUMBER TWO AND NEW BUSINESS.

YES, SIR. SO THIS IS THE FOLLOW UP TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING. A COUPLE QUICK THINGS REGARDING THE LAST DISCUSSION.

THE ORIGINAL LIST THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU FOR FUNDING REQUESTS WAS ABOUT THREE POINT FOUR MILLION. YOU'LL SEE IN THE ATTACHMENT THAT THERE'S SOME IN-N-OUT NUMBERS TO REFLECT THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST MEETING.

THERE WAS A REQUEST TO ADD A NEW COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR POSITION, SO THAT'S BEEN ADDED IN. TO COVER THAT, I WENT AHEAD AND ELIMINATED THE ASSET MANAGER POSITION SO WE CAN FUND NEXT YEAR AND ALSO DID A SMALL RECLASSIFICATION OF A VACANT PROCUREMENT AGENT, ONE POSITION TO A PROCUREMENT AGENT, THREE POSITION.

BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND HELP THAT DEPARTMENT MEET ALL OF THE CITY NEEDS.

THE REVISED AMOUNT IS ABOUT THREE POINT THREE SIX NINE MILLION.

AND THEN THAT BRINGS US TO THE COUNCIL DIRECTION FROM LAST MEETING TO TRY TO FUND AN ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION OR SO OF MEETING SOME OF THE CAPITAL NEEDS THAT REMAIN OUTSTANDING.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST BEFORE YOU IS SOME OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF PRIMARILY EQUIPMENT.

WE'VE REQUESTED TO REPLACE TWO ENGINES AT STATIONS TWO AND SIX FIRE ENGINES, REPLACEMENT OF BRUSH TRUCK NUMBER TWO, REPLACING THE REMAINING SIXTY SEVEN SETS OF BUNKER GEAR IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO TO BUY A COVERED AREA FOR THE STATION SIX BRUSH TRUCK.

ONE OF THE REASONS THOSE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED IS BECAUSE YEARS AGO SOME EQUIPMENT WAS LEFT OUT IN THE SUN, NOT UNDER ANY KIND OF COVER.

SO THAT WILL HELP TO PRESERVE THE LIFE OF THE NEW BRUSH STROKE SIX THAT YOU ALL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PREPARED AS WE SPEAK FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ONE ADJUSTMENT WE'VE MADE HERE FROM THE PRIOR LIST WHERE YOU ALL AUTHORIZE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EIGHT POLICE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES BEFORE YOU GO THERE, MA'AM, CAN YOU JUST TOUCH ON THE REPLACEMENT ENGINES OF TWO AND SIX AND HOW THEY'LL BE READY AND HOW SOON? BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER WE WERE BRIEFED AND IN THE TIMING OF GETTING THOSE, IT'S YEARS OUT. SO YES, YEAH, I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT ONE OF THE PROVIDERS OF THESE VEHICLES IS MAKING LIKE EIGHT OR NINE OF THEM, SOME SOME NUMBER LIKE THAT THAT ARE NOT ALL FULLY COMMITTED YET. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE WILL BE AVAILABLE SOMETIME IN THE SPRING.

AND SO THERE'S THE POTENTIAL THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TONIGHT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THOSE AND GET THEM MUCH FASTER THAN THE NORMAL.

YOU KNOW, YOU ORDER IT TODAY AND IT TAKES MONTHS AND MONTHS.

SO THAT WAS POSITIVE NEWS THAT WE HEARD FROM THAT VENDOR.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED THAT FOR THE RECORD.

YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THEN SO GOING BACK TO THE POLICE VEHICLES, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INCREASING ESCALATING COSTS IN THE WORLD, NOT JUST OF VEHICLES, BUT ALSO OF PARTS AND PIECES THAT GO INTO MAKING THE POLICE VEHICLE.

SO WE'VE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS PER CAR.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, BUT WE WANTED TO JUST HAVE A BUFFER.

MY HOPE IS THAT WE JUST DROP MONEY BACK IN A FUND BALANCE ONCE WE ACQUIRE THESE.

BUT THAT ADDITIONAL ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND THERE IS FOUR OF THE EIGHT, THE ALREADY APPROVED AND THEN WE'RE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL FIVE.

OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET THOSE EVEN THOUGH THE MARKET IS VERY COMPETITIVE RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE LAST FEW THINGS ON THERE IS TO REPLACE ONE OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES, WHICH IF YOU DRIVE IN THE PARKING LOT, YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE THIS RANDOM RED TOYOTA TUNDRA TRUCK. IT'S FAIRLY OLD AND IT WAS A POLICE FORFEITURE VEHICLE FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD SOME YEARS BACK.

ANYWAY, WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THAT BECAUSE IT'S AGING AND HAS SOME PROBLEMS THERE.

WE ALSO ARE REQUESTING SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PLANNING SUPPORTS FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND THEN CONTINUING WITH WHAT WE STARTED LAST YEAR.

WE'D LIKE TO TAKE TWO NEW TWO ADDITIONAL INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY AND REDO ALL THE SPAN WIRES SIMILAR TO PROJECTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

TO KEEP UP ON THAT MAINTENANCE IN THE CITY.

THAT'S THE TOTAL LIST PUTS THIS AT ABOUT ONE POINT NINE MILLION OF ADDITIONAL REQUESTS.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YES, MAYOR MS. SUZANNE, CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS ASSET MANAGER POSITION, WHAT IT WHAT IT WOULD HAVE ENTAILED OR. YES, SIR.

YEAH, THE ASSET MANAGER POSITION IS IT WOULD BE A NEW POSITION FOR THE CITY.

IT WOULD BE BASED IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

THE GOAL OF THAT POSITION WOULD BE TO BE A PRIMARY SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT AND ALSO SORT OF IN AN AUDIT OF SOUGHT AUDIT PERSON OF SORTS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE PROPERLY MANAGING OUR ASSETS IN EACH DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THAT IS HANDLED AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL, SO THIS WOULD BE A GOAL OF

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MAKE SURE OUR ASSETS ARE MANAGED PROPERLY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING WITH THE MAIN GOAL OF OVERSIGHT.

I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW THAN THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION'S COORDINATOR. I REMEMBER THAT PRIOR TO PRIOR.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WE REVERT BACK TO THAT WITH THAT FOR THAT REASON.

YEAH, SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M OUT WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY THAT.

SO. OTHER OTHER THAN THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I'M STILL BIG ON, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE GREEN, EFFICIENT WITH THE VEHICLES, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I'M GOOD WITH.

AND I'M GOOD WITH THE WAY IT WAS.

I LIKE THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR, I KNOW HOW TAXING THEY ARE OR HOW TAX THEY ARE. AND THEY COULD DEFINITELY USE ONE.

BUT DO WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS AT THIS POINT? AND WE COULD CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION.

NATHAN WHITE.

NATHAN WHITE, 13, ON SEA BREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I WAS WONDERING I WANTED TO ASK COUNSEL IF.

THE IDEA WAS EVER CONSIDERED BECAUSE I'VE NOT HEARD IT TO USE ANY OF THIS MONEY FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE OR ROAD WORK.

I AM AWARE THAT WE HAVE THE ROAD BOND, BUT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY ON THE ROADS OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD BOND.

THE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS WE BORROWED TO DO THE ROADS, WHICH HAS BEEN MENTIONED, IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO ALL OF THE ROADS.

AND WE'VE PUT PROGRESSIVELY LESS TOWARDS ROAD MAINTENANCE IN THE BUDGET FOR THE THIRD, I THINK, THIRD TIME IN A ROW NOW, SECOND OR THIRD TIME IN A ROW.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY NOW BELOW ONE MILLION.

AS TIME. BUT WE'RE.

SPENDING GOING UP FROM SPENDING AT THE LAST MEETING.

THIRTEEN POINT TWO, SIX, FOUR SPECIAL ELECTIONS TO THIS EVENING, ADDING IT UP TO MAKE A TOTAL MAKE IT A TOTAL OF TWENTY ONE POINT ONE ONE FOR SPECIAL ELECTIONS, THAT'S A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY. UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE STILL TAKING OUT INCREASING AMOUNTS OF DEBT FOR OTHER THINGS AND NOT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO PREVENT THOSE SITUATIONS FROM REOCCURRING.

SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT IDEA HAS BEEN CONSIDERED OR IF IT COULD BE CONSIDERED.

AND. BECAUSE I THINK THE CITIZENS WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN AN INVESTMENT INTO THE ROADS THAT ACTUALLY.

I'M FROM THE CITY TAXES THAT WE ALREADY PAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO ANSWER A FEW OF THOSE.

CERTAINLY, WE DID NOT SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT FUNDING ROAD MAINTENANCE OUT OF THESE FUNDS BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING THE PRIMARY FOCUS THAT WE STARTED WITH WAS REALLY TRYING TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING CAPITAL NEEDS THAT WERE MORE IN THE WORLD OF EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AS COUNCILS WHERE WE WERE DID NOT HAVE A SET ASIDE AMOUNT FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN THE GENERAL FUND IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED OVER THE SUMMER.

SO THAT WAS THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS.

CERTAINLY, COUNCIL DIRECTS US TO WE CAN LOOK AT ROAD MAINTENANCE AS WELL, BUT THIS WAS A.

ONE OF MANY PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FUND, SO THAT'S WHERE THIS PRIORITIZATION CAME FROM. IT HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE PAST, I THINK, TWO OR THREE BUDGET CYCLES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SET ASIDE A REOCCURRING LINE ITEM, FUNDING FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE FUTURE.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING MONEY GOING INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND THAT IS BASED ON SALES OF PROPERTY, WE'VE WE'VE STARTED TO ACTUALLY SET ASIDE REOCCURRING LINE ITEM FUNDING ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE WAY MORE THAN IT IS TODAY.

NO QUESTION, BUT I'M I'M GLAD THAT AT LEAST WE'VE STARTED THAT STEP TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO MORE ON THAT.

SO. SOPHIE MAIR, THANK YOU.

HEY, ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARD'S DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCIL, ANY OTHER WAY IN OR WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX? YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR.

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I WOULD I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT.

I WOULD AGREE.

EVERY SINGLE ITEM LISTED ARE NEEDED.

WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO WAIT.

TRY TO PLAY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT.

IT'S TOO CRITICAL TO ADDRESS THIS, THESE THESE ITEMS WHEN WE CAN.

THE ONE THING, MS. MS. SHERMAN. I STRUGGLE WITH THIS AREA AS WELL AS FAR AS PERSONNEL NEEDS.

I MEAN, AND WE KIND OF LEAN ON YOU, YOUR YOUR EXPERTIZE, THIS IS YOUR RUN, THIS THIS THE WHOLE YOU RUN THE CITY IN IN MANY WAYS.

I MEAN, THE NEED FOR PERSONNEL RIGHT NOW, YOU RECOMMENDED THAT THAT POSITION AND I KNOW OF, AS YOU KNOW, ASK OTHER AS FROM FROM THE MAYOR IN PARTICULAR.

WHY WOULD YOU SAY HOW IMPORTANT AND YOU DID DESCRIBE THE POSITION RIGHT NOW, AND THAT SOMEWHAT GOES IN TERMS OF TRY TO ADDRESS GOES BACK TO JAIL LIKE TRYING TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER, TRYING TO CREATE THAT TRANSPARENCY, HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAVE THEIR EYES ON A REGULAR BASIS ON THIS DIFFERENT HOW WE'RE SPENDING AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING ACCORDINGLY IN OUR DEPARTMENT. SO WAS THAT THE INTENT OF THIS POSITION? YES, SIR. SIMILAR TO THE FUNDING THAT WE YOU ALL ACTUALLY PROVED ON ON THE THE THE LIST FROM DECEMBER 16TH FOR THE BRINGING IN THE OPERATIONAL AUDITOR AGAIN, LIKE WE DID THIS PAST SUMMER, THE ASSET MANAGER POSITION WOULD WOULD SERVE MORE OF THAT, STRENGTHENING OUR INTERNAL CHECKS AND BALANCES.

TYPE OF OF PROCESS.

BUT BUT REALLY, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT IN MANY, MANY DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE NOT REALLY GROWN THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN RECENT YEARS TO MEET THE GROWING NEEDS OF THE CITY.

AND SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE FOR ME, LIKE A CORE POSITION THAT IS IS DEFINITELY INVALUABLE TO US TO TRY TO STRENGTHEN HOW WE HOW WE TRACK OUR ASSETS AND DO BETTER WITH ACCOUNTABILITY ON THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM IN TERMS OF REQUESTS, FROM MY STANDPOINT.

CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FUNDED TONIGHT OR NOT, IT WOULD BE ON MY LIST OF FUTURE REQUESTS AND WE WOULD TRY TO FUND IT AS WE'RE ABLE TO, BUT NOT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY DEMANDS WE WERE TRYING TO WORK ON PLANS TO INCREASE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBERS.

I'VE GOT OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ALSO HAVE NOT GROWN IN PUBLIC WORKS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THINGS TO MAINTAIN. AND SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF NEEDS.

BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE HIGH ONES ON OUR LIST BECAUSE OF THE INTERNAL BENEFIT IT WOULD BRING. AS MUCH AS I AND AS MUCH AS THAT POSITIONS, THE PILLOW ASSISTANT POSITION IS NEEDED, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THE MAYOR 100 PERCENT THAT IT'S NEEDED.

BUT I TEND TO LEAN ON ON YOUR.

NO ASK IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE POSITION IN THE ORDER IT SHOULD TAKE PLACE, SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT WE KEEP.

A POSITION GOING.

HOW I WOULD SUPPORT THIS THIS.

I'M TRYING TO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M TRYING TO. UNDERSTAND THE ASSET MANAGER POSITION IS ELIMINATED OR YOU WANT TO KEEP IT. ADAM SHERMAN SORRY, SIR.

SO YES, THE INTENTION OF THAT LIST WAS TO TO ELIMINATE THAT POSITION FOR NOW TO FUND THE ADDITION OF THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR.

SO. I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DUTIES OF? POSITION. AND WHAT? HOWARD, WHAT KIND OF VALUE IT BRING? SURE. DEFINITELY WOULD BRING VALUE TO THE TEAM.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY TWO PEOPLE WITHIN MY DEPARTMENT THAT ARE CHARGED WITH ALL THE PUBLIC FACING COMMUNICATION.

SO WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND ONE COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR.

THEY DO A VARIETY OF THINGS.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE MEDIA COMPONENT.

SO ANY INQUIRIES, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONDING TO THOSE.

THEY DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING IN TERMS OF SOCIAL MEDIA PRESS RELEASES, MANAGING THOSE ACCOUNTS, PUTTING OUT INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

SO IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM OUR OUR MONTHLY NEWSLETTER TO THINGS THAT RELATE TO BUSINESS

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THEY'RE USUALLY INVOLVED IN IT.

AND CERTAINLY OUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO INCREASE OUR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE KNOW OUR OUR CHARGE IS TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNICATION AS WE GO.

SO THAT ESSENTIALLY THAT'S A QUICK STORY OF WHAT THAT PERSON WOULD DO.

BUT A LOT OF THAT PUBLIC FACING COMMUNICATION IS WHAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT POSITION.

OKAY. AS I LOOK AT IT AS THE ASSET MANAGER POSITION IS A.

I MEAN, WE GOT TO MANAGE OUR ASSETS THAT WE HAVE THE CITY OWNS, SO.

THAT COULD SAVE US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN AND PREVENT US GOING BACK INTO THE UNFUNDED BALANCE, THE. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING SPENDING MORE MONEY, SO YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO. THAT ASSET MANAGER POSITION JUST IN FINANCE OR IT COVERS THE WHOLE CITY.

IT WOULD JUST BE IN FINANCE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ONE DESIGNATED PERSON IN THE CITY CURRENTLY WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSETS.

IT'S FAR IT'S HANDLED AT A DEPARTMENT LEVEL.

RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE STAFF WHO DO OTHER THINGS WHO DEAL WITH THE ASSETS AS WELL.

SO THAT PERSON WOULD BE A CENTRAL PERSON WHO WOULD BE SORT OF THE DOUBLE CHECK AND THE THE TOP HIERARCHY FOR MANAGING A LOT OF THAT.

WELL, I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING MARY JOHNSON, YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN AGAIN OR OK, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS GO AHEAD AND ELIMINATE THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR, CONTINUE WITH THE ASSET MANAGER AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE GOOD TO GO.

MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT.

IT SEEMED LIKE SHE WANTS TO ELIMINATE THE ASSET MANAGER.

NO, NO, NO. I THINK SHE WANTS TO KEEP THE ASSET MANAGER ALL RIGHT AND ELIMINATE THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR.

IS THAT CORRECT? BUT IS THAT CORRECT? IF THAT'S THE CHOICE, YEAH, I WOULD CERTAINLY PREFER THAT OVER THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR, BUT I'VE RESPECT WHICHEVER DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO, SO.

SO YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE A MOTION SHOULD SHOW THAT FOR US TO ADD THE ASSET MANAGER OR ELIMINATE THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR AND THEN THE ENTIRE LIST BE PASSED ON.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT. OK.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

NO, NO, I WON'T.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

AS YOU WERE, IT'S GETTING LATE.

YOU GOOD MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF THE UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE WITH THE AMENDMENT OF ADDING THE ASSET MANAGER POSITION AND ELIMINATING COMMUNITY INFORMATION OFFICER.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN, THE LIST IS GOOD.

OR EVERYONE? ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED AS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS.

COUNCILMAN FELIX.

[COUNCIL REPORTS]

HEALTH AND A PROSPER WEALTH AND.

AND THAT'S THAT IT'S LATE, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER DUE TO THE HOUR.

I JUST WANT TO WISH THE CITY WORKERS AND THE STAFF HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY. HAPPY NEW YEAR.

AND PLEASE PROTECT YOURSELF AGAINST THIS CULVERT.

WE'RE DEALING WITH. THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

WELL, I'M GONNA TAKE THEIR TIME.

SO BAM, RIGHT HERE, HEALTH FIRST MAYOR'S FITNESS CHALLENGE, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE THIRD IN REGISTRATIONS, ROCKLAND AND CAPE CANAVERAL ARE AHEAD OF US AND WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST POPULATION OUT OF EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.

SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T BE FIRST IN AT LEAST REGISTRATION.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EASILY DO THAT YOU'RE JUST LOG IN REGISTER.

MAKE SURE YOU MARK THAT YOU WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND WE GO FROM THERE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE CITY FIT AND GET US MOVING AND GET US GROOVING SO YOU CAN REGISTER RIGHT THERE.

U.W BOVARD DAWG.

EASY, EASY AS THAT.

AND THEN JUST NAMING YOUR.

OH, SO, YEAH, SO I AM A PERSONAL TRAINER, AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW, BUT WHAT'S THE NAME OF

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TOP JOB TRAINING.

PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE MAYOR'S CHALLENGE, I CAN I CAN DO A COUNCIL WORKOUT RIGHT HERE FOR EVERYONE. I'LL RUN OUT FOR THE GARY AND I'LL GET EVERYBODY MOVING AND GROOVING.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.

SO CHARLENE. CHARLENE, I HEARD THAT NICOLE IS MAKING ENOUGH AND CHARLENE IS GOING TO PUT YOU TO TASK. OH MAN, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. BUT YEAH, BUT LET'S GET ACTIVE.

YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT COVID 19.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET TOO MUCH INTO IT, BUT DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, EXERCISING HELPS WITH YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM AS WELL AS TAKING PREVENTATIVE, YOU KNOW, MEASURES, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ONE THING. THE NEXT THING I SAID, I WAS GOING TO COME BACK WITH THIS.

I'M HOPING THAT COUNCIL CHANGES THEIR MIND.

THIS IS THE LIST OF ALL THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD AT SIX P.M.

IT'S 18 OF THEM SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL TOGETHER.

I WOULD LIKE TO IMPLORE YOU ALL TO LOOK INTO DOING SIX P.M.

MEETINGS. I HEARD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS ALREADY SAY IT'S LATE EVENING, SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING I WANTED.

I SAID I WAS GOING TO WAIT.

I WANTED TO GIVE IT SOME TIME AND TOUCH BACK ON IT.

STAFFS HERE FOR TWO HOURS WAITING.

AND I REMEMBER MR. BATTENS COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO DRIVE FROM HERE AND THERE.

AND ONE OF THE QUOTES THAT YOU GO BY, IT'S ONE OF THE QUOTES I GO BY.

NO, HIS POOR PREPARATION PROMOTES PISS POOR PERFORMANCE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYBODY KNOWS, YOU KNOW THAT THE MEETING'S AT 6:00, THEY CAN PREPARE ACCORDINGLY. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M OUT WITH THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET A CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL AND SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AS SUCH. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, NOTIFY EVERYBODY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO PEOPLE AREN'T STILL SHOWING UP AT 7:00 IF WE DO GO THAT ROUTE.

AND PEOPLE ARE MISSING, YOU KNOW, THEIR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

ENFORCEMENT, I THINK.

TO BRING IT UP THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, I DON'T THINK WE I THINK THAT'S A POLICY CHANGE.

THE CLARK.

CHANGE IN THE COUNCILS OF YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT HE'S LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS TO BRING IT FORWARD. WELL, WE.

WELL, SORRY, MR. FOSTER. I MEAN, COUNCILMAN FOSTER GIVE ME A SECOND.

I BELIEVE MS..

MRS JONES WAS SAYING THAT THERE WAS NO POLICY, SO ALL WE NEEDED WAS CENSUS RIGHT HERE AND THEN IT COULD HAVE BEEN A COULD HAVE BEEN ENACTED IMMEDIATELY OR.

THAT OR NO, I DIDN'T SPEAK WITH HER ABOUT THAT, OK.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'M FINE WITH, YOU KNOW, IF I DO GET CONSENSUS BRINGING IT FORWARD NEXT JANUARY 20TH.

BUT YEAH, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE ADVERTISEMENT WE PUT OUT, I THINK WE HAVE TO.

RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, ADVERTISMENT PATRICIA DID JUST CONFIRM THAT THERE IS NO POLICY ON IT, SO. THERE IS NOT A POLICY TO BRING FORTH TO CHANGE.

ABOUT ADVERTISING CERTAIN PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IT COULD BE ON THE IF COUNCIL CHOSE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, YES, WE COULD.

IT WOULD JUST BE ADVERTISED THROUGH THE AGENDA ITSELF.

YOU COULD PUT IT AS AN ITEM IF YOU WANT IT, MAYBE TO IMPLEMENT IT, TO IMPLEMENT IT AS A POLICY. OK.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE SHOULD.

FELIX. I GIVE CONSENT TO DISCUSS IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

SO I'M A NO THAT.

YOU KNOW, AND I'VE GOT THERE'S MULTIPLE REASONS, AND I'M NOT JUST BEING SELFISH, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS DO NEED THAT TIME TO COME.

BUT IT APPEARS THAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

IT IS DIFFICULT OR I GUESS, MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL.

STREAM OF INCOME TO TO GET HERE AT 1800 HOURS LIKE TODAY WAS DIFFICULT AND THE TIMES THAT ARE SHOWN THERE, THEY'RE TYPICALLY WORKSHOPS, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD MEAN IF WE HAVE A WORKSHOP, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO, BRING IT IN AT FIVE OR THE THE WHEN WHEN SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING? WILL THAT MOVE US UP TO FIVE THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MUNICIPAL MEETING WE HAD EARLIER TODAY OR THE BCRA? WELL, WE HAVE TO MOVE OR HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

SO RIGHT NOW, I'M A NO, BUT YOU I THINK YOU HAVE THREE OF THE FOUR COUNCIL FOLKS THAT

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YES, MAYOR, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORKSHOPS, THOSE ARE ON WEEKS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, SO THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN UNAFFECTED.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER 3RD, 2020 IS WHEN WE HAD A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

THE FOLLOWING WEEK, WE HAD A WORKSHOP, WHICH A LOT OF THESE WORKSHOPS WERE MORE BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL WAS NEW, IT WAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL PIECES LIKE WE HAD THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE FBI, WE HAD MS. PATRICIA PRESENT, QUASI JUDICIAL.

SO A LOT OF THESE WORKSHOPS.

I DON'T SEE THEM REOCCURRING WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.

BUT SO THAT'S WHY I'M VISUAL.

SO I WANTED TO LOOK AND SEE FOR MYSELF, BUT I DO HAVE CONSENSUS.

THE LAST THING IN REGARDS TO.

UM, MY COUNCILMAN REPORT, WE'VE GOTTEN UPDATES FROM POLICE, WE'VE GOTTEN UPDATES IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, UP HERE IN PUBLIC WORKS AND MAYOR, YOU AND I WERE AT THE FIRE STATION DEMOLITION AND THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR HAD THE HAMMER.

HE THOUGHT HE WAS THOR AND HE WENT AT IT AND KNOCK OUT A NICE PIECE OF WALL FOR A FIRE STATION, ONE IN REGARDS TO THE DEMOLITION.

SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT I'M SEEING IT EVERY TIME I DRIVE TO WORK THERE, TAKING DOWN MORE AND MORE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, WE GET OUR UPDATE IN REGARDS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON WHAT'S GOING TO GO WITH.

HOW SOON ARE WE LOOKING FOR THAT TO, YOU KNOW, BE MADE? I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE CALLS IN REGARDS TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE.

I KNOW WE HAD A PARTIAL UPDATE FOR THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST.

IN REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE, YOU KNOW? A LITTLE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, SO THAT'S IT, I'M DONE.

THANK YOU. AS FOR ME, I DO AGREE WITH THE FIRE FIRE STATION, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE A FIRE STATION DOWN SOUTH THAT WE'RE SHARING AND AND WE WE REALLY NEED TO.

AND THIS IS, I THINK, THE SECOND TIME I MENTION IT, NOT THAT I THINK I KNOW I MENTIONED THAT PERHAPS THE PRIOR MEETING.

BUT LET'S KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY DOWN SOUTH OUT THERE ON DEGROOTE BY BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE'S A HUGE NEED THERE, GENTLEMEN, FOR MY REPORTS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY NEW YEAR.

TRULY BLESSED TO REPRESENT THIS CITY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

AS MAYOR. AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT.

THAT'S ALL ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS.

I'D LIKE TO ASK MS. SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE.

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]

GROWTH CITIES.

THE PALM BAY MILLBURN AREA WAS RANKED NUMBER THREE IN THE NATION AND AS I BELIEVE YOU HAD MENTIONED, MAYOR, WE JUMPED UP FROM NUMBER TWENTY THREE BACK THE PRIOR YEAR.

WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT. THERE WAS A GREAT ARTICLE THAT WAS PUT OUT THIS WEEK ABOUT THAT, AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER GOOD SIGN THAT THE ECONOMY IS STRONG HERE.

AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT AND GETTING A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE COMING IN AND SEEING THE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT THE AREA THAT WE KNOW.

NO OR MAKE US, UH, I GUESS I SHOULD END WITH THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, RIGHT? SO THANK YOU.

SO MISS SMITH.

HAPPY BENEATH. AND THAT'S IT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, DO WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS SUZANNE CONNOLLY, FOLLOWED BY BUTCHERING.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD DECEMBER 16TH.

THE LAST ONE OF THE YEAR, TWENTY TWENTY ONE AT THAT.

COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS A SPEAKER LIKE MYSELF DOING THE THREE MINUTE COMMENT, AND IT WAS A COMMENT AGAINST ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT IN THE COMMENTS THERE WAS A PART OF THE COMMENTS CONTAINED A CHARACTERIZATION OF THE ACTIONS OF STAFF AND THE WORD USED WAS RECKLESS.

AND I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMAN FOSTER FOR CATCHING THIS AS IN MY INTERPRETATION.

THAT WAS A COMMENT ON A PERSON RATHER THAN A COMMENT ON THE PROBLEM THAT THE AGENDA ITEM WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS.

AND AS A CITIZEN WHO SPEAKS BEFORE THE COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW CITIZENS TO WATCH LANGUAGE.

AND I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID IS THAT THE STAFF AND THE COUNCIL ARE.

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I SEE YOUR SERVICE AND I SEE YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.

ALL OF YOU, IT IS CLEAR IN EVERY MEETING I'VE ATTENDED AND ESPECIALLY THE STAFF, ALL OF THE STAFF. SO I ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT SINCE I GOT A MINUTE ON CITIZENS AGAIN ATTENDING THE BOARD'S ATTENDING MORE BOARDS.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO ATTEND ALL THE BOARDS, FRANKLY, BUT I THINK THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE, I THINK YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT THESE CITIZEN BOARDS HAVE TO HAVE SOME LIFE TO THEM. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PURPOSE.

AND I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE PURPOSE FOR THESE BOARDS AND TO ENCOURAGE MORE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.

EVEN AT OUR ADVISORY BOARD, I'M ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

I'M ALSO ON THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, ADVISORY BOARD AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF DIRECTION. I MEAN, WE WORKED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE, I MEAN, THE ADVISORY, THE PLAN, THE ADVISORY, THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AND WE STARTED WITHOUT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

IT'S IT'S TALKING AND IN WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD, WE'RE WE ONLY HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL TO PRESENT ONE TIME OF YEAR.

WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD COME MONTHLY AND PALM BAY.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

YOUR RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.

I'LL BE QUICK, I PROMISE.

I'D LIKE TO SAY A THANK YOU TO CODE COMPLIANCE.

I SPOKE WITH A GENIE PENSAR, THE ANC AND A LISA WEAKLING.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, I CALLED THEM ON THE 28TH 29TH OF DECEMBER CONCERNING A SEPTIC TANK THAT HAD BEEN REPLACED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE COMPANY THAT DID THE WORK LEFT THEIR BACKHOE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THEY TOOK THE DRAIN FIELD, PUT IT IN AN EMPTY LOT.

THE DIRT THAT THEY DUG OUT OF THE OLD SEPTIC TANK, THEY JUST SPREAD IT ALL ALONG SIDE OF THE ROAD. CODE ENFORCEMENT GUYS WERE OUT THERE BY THE THIRD, I THINK THIRD OR FOURTH.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT I WAS REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THEM TO COME AFTER THAT QUICK, AND THEY DID ENSURE ME THAT ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN AGAINST A PARTICULAR COMPANY.

BUT I WAS ALSO EDUCATED ON THE CITY.

DOESN'T GET NOTIFICATION WHEN SOMEONE'S GOING TO REPLACE A SEPTIC SYSTEM, IT JUST GOES TO THE COUNTY, SO THEREFORE THE.

CITY INSPECTORS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT, AND THAT'S WHY THESE GUYS GET BY WITH THIS STUFF. YOU JUST DO IT AND JUST PUT IT OFF IN THE WOODS.

IT'S AN EMPTY LOT. NOBODY LIVES THERE.

SAVE ME A COUPLE OF BUCKS.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE COUNTY DOESN'T INFORM YOU GUYS.

YOU KNOW, IRAN'S GETTING READY TO PUT A NEW SEPTIC IN.

MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THE OTHER THING, YEAH, THAT WAS THAT, WAS IT THERE? AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, YES, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STAYS BUSY.

I LIVE A QUARTER MILE FROM THIS FIRE STATION.

ALL DAY LONG, THOSE GUYS ARE GOING OUT FROM EARLY MORNING TO LATE AT NIGHT.

SO HATS OFF TO THOSE GUYS.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND THAT'S ALL I GOT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, GO BENGALS.

THAT'S THE CHIEF. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK, JUST LET ME KNOW.

COME UP FRONT. BILL BURTON FIVE EIGHTY SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST REGARDING THE CHANGING OF TIME FOR MEETINGS.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. THE AISLE GOES WHATEVER THE COUNCIL SAYS, BUT.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FORGET THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED OUT, LIKE THE NOTICES OF UP AND COMING MEETINGS THAT ARE PUBLIC NOTICE BOARDS AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MAILED OUT THAT ARE SOMETIMES TWO MONTHS, TWO MONTHS OUT OR IT'S GOT THE DATE AND THE TIME ON THOSE MAIL OUTS BECAUSE I'M ON SOME OF THOSE LISTS AND THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN SENT OUT THAT ARE TWO MONTHS OUT.

AND WHEN YOU GO FOR CONSTRUCTION SITES AND STUFF LIKE THIS, YOU PUT THE PUBLIC NOTICE BOARDS UP. IT'S GOT THE DATE AND TIME ON THESE PUBLIC NOTICE BOARDS ALSO.

SO IF WE CHANGE THE TIME, THAT'S GREAT.

LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE PLAN FAR ENOUGH OUT THAT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT WITH SOMETHING WHERE YOU ADVERTISE IT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND SOMEBODY DROVE IN FROM TALLAHASSEE TO ADDRESS

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IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT UPSET.

WOULDN'T BOTHER A PERSON LIKE BILL.

RIGHT? OK.

THE OTHER ONE IS JUST A LITTLE REMINDER ABOUT CHARTER REVIEW MEETING COMING UP.

I THINK IT'S ON MONDAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE CHARTER REVIEW. IT'S NOT A HIGHLY ADVERTISED MEETING, BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING, IT'S LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THE CITY IS GOVERNED BY.

AND IT'S THAT CHARTER REVIEW IS WHAT THEIR CITY IS ACTUALLY GOVERNED, DONE.

AND SO THAT'S FOR THE PUBLIC.

I WANTED THEM TO HEAR THAT ALSO BECAUSE.

BUT TUESDAY, MY BAD TUESDAY, I WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE MONDAY WAITING.

THANK YOU. HAPPY NEW YEAR ONE AND ALL HEALTHY AND HAPPY.

RANDAL. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL RANDOLPH CHAYEFSKY THREE, FOUR EIGHT BRICKHEADZ STREET, NORTHEAST.

I'D BE REMISS, COUNCILOR, IF I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT TODAY IS A DATE THAT APPARENTLY IS GOING TO BE ONE THAT WE RECOGNIZE MOVING FORWARD.

BEING JANUARY 6TH, ONE YEAR AGO, WE HAD A SITUATION OCCUR AT THE U.S.

CAPITOL, WHICH, AS FAR AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOES, IS THE PINNACLE OF DEMOCRACY.

NOW I TREAT THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THE PINNACLE OF DEMOCRACY OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, AND I SHARE MY GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THIS ROOM AT 11:30.

TO ADD TO DEMOCRACY, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE WE'RE THE FRONT LINES OF DEMOCRACY, OF THE FABRIC OF OUR NATION.

THE COUNCIL PROCESS AND THE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IS SO PARAMOUNT BECAUSE IT'S A BUILDING BLOCK, IT STARTS HERE.

THEN IT BUILDS UP TO THE STATE HOUSE AND THE STATE SENATE, AND THEN IT MOVES TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE REALLY OUT OF HANDS.

JANUARY 6TH OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

THERE'S NO DEBATING THAT, BUT WHAT I DON'T LIKE SEEING IN THE WORLD IS THIS THIS RED AND BLUE DIFFERENTIATION? AND IT'S IT'S RED'S FAULT TODAY.

IT'S BLUES FAULT YESTERDAY, AND WE'RE TAKING COVID INTO IT AND POLARIZING THAT A WORM, A PURPLE SHIRT FOR YOU GUYS TODAY BECAUSE I'M NOT A RED OR BLUE GUY, I'M A I'M A MEMBER OF BOTH. I'M ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S RIGHT IS THE THE EXERCISE THAT WE GO THROUGH IN THIS PROCESS. SO I DON'T CARE WHAT TIME OF DAY WE DO IT, I DON'T CARE WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK WE DO IT. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND SPEAK AS A FREE AMERICAN AND A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY WITH MY CITY COUNCIL.

AND I JUST I REALLY CAN'T UNDER- OR OVEREMPHASIZE MY GRATITUDE TO YOU GUYS AS A COUNCIL.

AND YOU KNOW, I COME UP HERE, I GET EXCITED, I GET EXCITED.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T HAVE LOVE FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE YOU.

I TRULY, GENUINELY ON A HUMAN TO HUMAN MAN, TO MAN, MAN, TO WOMAN LEVEL.

APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I REALLY DO.

AND YOU KNOW, I WAS ONE OF THOSE YOU HALLS THAT ADDED TO THAT, THAT THAT BUNCH, RIGHT, FALL TO TWENTY.

AND THERE WAS NO BETTER FEELING THAN DROPPING THE KEYS OF THAT SUCKER OFF AT THE OLD KMART. BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THE OLD KMART GOT TURNED INTO U-HAUL WHILE I WAS GONE.

GOOD STUFF, BUT TO BE HERE BACK IN MY HOMETOWN, IT'S JUST AN HONOR AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE, AND I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HERE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S ROUGHLY A YEAR AGO THAT I DID START COMING AND HANGING OUT WITH YOU GUYS UNTIL ALL THESE LATE HOURS.

AND AND ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I SPOKE TO YOU, I QUOTED DR.

MARTIN LUTHER KING. I BROUGHT UP HIS HIS LAST BOOK THAT HE WAS ABLE TO PUBLISH BEFORE HIS ASSASSINATION. AND IT'S WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE, CHAOS OR COMMUNITY? AND WHEN YOU WATCH THAT NATIONAL NEWS, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING CHAOS.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT EVERY DAY.

BUT I DON'T GET DISCOURAGED AND I IMPLORE YOU AS A COUNCIL AND YOU GUYS AS A STAFF TO NOT GET DISCOURAGED BECAUSE WHEN WE COME IN HERE, THIS IS ALL OF US WORKING ON COMMUNITY.

WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO BUILD COMMUNITY AND TO STAVE OFF CHAOS.

AND GOD BLESS ALL OF US ON OUR EFFORTS.

SO THANK YOU. I MUCH APPRECIATE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

NIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? THE NUN, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.