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WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH OUR FIRST CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION[CALL TO ORDER]
MEETING. I'M TERESA JONES, CITY CLERK, AND IT IS NOW SIX OH THREE.UM, WE'RE GOING TO START OFF, OH, MY GOODNESS, WHERE'S ALL MY STUFF? OK, WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL.
UH, MR. DELGADO IS NOT HERE AS YET, MR. MYERS. MR WEINBERG, MR MACLEOD.
MR. CAPOTE, MR. MOORE. MR. JONES. MR. CHANDLER. MR. PARR IS NOT HERE YET.
OK. TOGETHER WITH ME, I HAVE A PATRICIA SMITH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AS WELL AS SUZANNE SHERMAN, OUR CITY MANAGER.
AND I SEE IN THE BACKGROUND THERE WE HAVE JONES AND PAULA BROWN, WHO IS OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND OUR ESTEEMED COUNCIL PERSON, TONY FELIX.
WELCOME. WELCOME. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PULLING UP A PRESENTATION THAT PATRICIA IS GOING TO BE DOING SHORTLY, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE READY.
WE'LL JUMP INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
OH, PETER, COME ON DOWN.I'M GOING TO COME RIGHT HERE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY MICROPHONE, BUT SINCE WE'RE KIND OF SHORT. I WANT TO HEAR.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING THIS COMMITTEE IN ITS BOARD IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CHARTER. I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO THINK OVER THE NEXT COMING WEEKS NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY, BUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY AND THE BUSINESSES IN PALM BAY.
SO JUST THINK OF EVERYBODY AS A WHOLE AND NOT JUST THE CITY ITSELF.
OK. ACTUALLY, WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO OUR.
WE'RE GOING TO JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE GOING TO OUR NEW BUSINESS AND WHOEVER GETS SELECTED AS CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, THE
[NEW BUSINESS (Part 1 of 2)]
CHAIR. IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO RUN THE MEETING FOR THE REMAINDER, THAT IS JUST FINE.BUT AS FAR AS THE SELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, WE JUST NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, A SEPARATE MOTION FOR EACH.
OK, WELL, THIS ONE PERSON ON THIS COMMITTEE WHO'S CHAIRED MORE MEETINGS THAN I HAVE, AND THAT'S OUR FORMER MAYOR, WILLIAM CAPOTE.
SO I NOMINATE WILLIAM CAPOTE AS CHAIR.
THE MOTION BY MR. WEINBERG, SECOND BY MS. MIRAGE FOR.
OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, I SUPPOSE THEY MAY.
ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND AS FAR AS A VICE CHAIR, I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THEY HAVE A MOVIE THAT'S OVER A MOTION BY MR. CAPOTE, SECOND HAND BY MR. MOORE FOR MR. WEINBERG TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE ANY MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THEY WILL JUMP INTO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
I SENT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. I HOPE EVERYBODY REVIEWED IT.
THERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE.
AND OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK.
ONE AREA UNDER ON PAGE FOUR UNDER ARTICLE 10, AS FAR AS THE ABSENCE IS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED ON BOARDS, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
BUT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NEVER SERVED ON A BOARD FAILURE TO ATTEND THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS, VACATE YOUR SEAT AUTOMATICALLY AND ALSO YOU MUST ATTEND AT LEAST 50 PERCENT OF EACH MEETING IN ORDER TO BE COUNTED AS PRESENT.
AND THEN THE OTHER AREA IS UNDER ARTICLE 13, THE PROCEDURE FOR PRESENTING THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS. AND BASICALLY, THIS IS THIS KIND OF JUST HOW IT IS AT COUNCIL MEETINGS, AS A COMMISSIONER, YOU OR CITY STAFF OR A RESIDENT CAN PROPOSE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CHARTER TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION.
THE COMMISSION WILL THEN VOTE ON THAT AMENDMENT.
OF COURSE, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN IF THE COMMISSION DECIDES TO DO SO, THAT WILL BE AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? GUYS ARE EASY. ALL RIGHT.
SO I JUST NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
MOTION TO ADOPT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AS PRESENTED.
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WEINBERG SECONDED BY MR. MOORE. UH, THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I.ANY OPPOSED SAY, NAY MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THEY'RE STILL DOING THEIR THING OVER THERE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE TIMETABLE.
SO I CHATTED WITH THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, THE DEADLINE TO GET ITEMS SUBMITTED TO THEM FOR THE BALLOT IS AUGUST 20, 22ND.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GET ITEMS TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION IN JUNE, AS THAT WILL GIVE THEM TIME TO FULLY REVIEW ALL OF THE PROPOSAL TO THE AMENDED AMENDMENTS FOR PROPOSAL AND THEN ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
COUNCIL CAN MODIFY THOSE AMENDMENTS AS THEY DEEM FIT AND AND COUNCIL CAN ALSO ADD ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO THE BALLOT IF THEY DESIRE.
SO IT ALSO REQUIRES AN ORDINANCE WHICH OF COURSE, REQUIRES TWO READINGS.
THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT. THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES TWO READINGS, SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE GET EVERYTHING TO COUNSEL FOR THE TWO READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE IN JUNE.
SO IF WE CAN COMPLETE EVERYTHING IN MAY, THEN THAT WILL WORK OUT PERFECT, WHICH KIND OF TAKES US INTO.
YOU'RE SCHEDULING YOUR DATES FOR SCHEDULING YOUR MEETINGS, I GAVE YOU EACH A SHEET OF PROPOSED MEETING DATES.
I DID SCHEDULE THEM FOR THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
UM, EXCEPT IN MARCH, WE THERE IS GOING TO BE THE THIRD AND FIFTH TUESDAYS DUE TO THE SPECIAL ELECTION BEING HELD ON THE SECOND TUESDAY.
SO, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE OK WITH THESE STATES, THAT'S FINE, WE CAN MODIFY THEM AS THE BOARD SEES FIT. THAT'S UP TO YOU OR WE CAN KIND OF.
PLAY IT BY EAR AND THE SCHEDULE AS NEEDED, THAT'S THAT'S ALL UP TO THE BOARD.
YES. OH, NO, THAT'S NOT REQUIRED, YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE CHARTER, YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPROVING EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL.
IT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE COMPLETE EVERYTHING IN MAY TO GET TO COUNCIL IN JUNE.
AS FAR AS THE ORDER FOR REVIEWING THE CITY CHARTER, THERE ARE GOING TO BE MANY AREAS OF THE CHARTER THAT LEGALLY WE DON'T MODIFY.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOUNDARIES, WE DON'T MODIFY ANYTHING WITH THE BOUNDARIES THAT'S DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND THEN SOME AREAS DUE TO LEGAL REASONS, WE JUST DON'T TOUCH IT AT ALL. SO BASICALLY, WE'LL GO AT THE COMMISSION'S PACE.
SOMETIMES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THREE ARTICLES IN ONE NIGHT.
SOMETIMES WE MIGHT HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AND IT MIGHT TAKE US TWO HOURS TO GO THROUGH ONE ARTICLE. BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE OUR TIME.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING.
ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO PRESENT TO US.
JUST BE AWARE THAT STAFF NEEDS TIME TO REVIEW THE ITEMS FOR ANY LEGAL ISSUES WE MAY NEED TO MODIFY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S.
THAT IT GOES WITH THE FLOW OF THE CHARTER AND THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS IT.
SO ALL THESE THINGS, WE JUST NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THE CHARTER. SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THE CHARTER, MAKE SURE THAT YOU PRESENT ANY IDEA POSSIBLE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF BASED ON THE COUNCIL PERSON THAT YOU REPRESENT BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF THESE CHAMBERS AND THEN ANYTHING THAT YOU DESIRE TO HAVE AMENDED IN THE CHARTER AS WELL.
AS FAR AS THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, OH YES, YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO MYSELF, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.
BUT OF COURSE, YOU SHOULD BRING THINGS UP HERE IN FRONT OF THE GROUP.
UM, THAT IS JUST SO IT'S IN THE SUNSHINE.
I'M. YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE COMMUNICATING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AS PRETTY MUCH CITY MANAGER OVERSEES THE MAJORITY OF STAFF EXCEPT FOR MY OFFICE, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS.
OK, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO WAIT JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES FOR MISS PATRICIA.
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OH, YOU'RE READY. DID YOU WANT TO SIT OVER THERE? THAT CAN BRING THE.I GUESS SEE IF THERE'S ANY IN THE BACK THERE.
NO, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS ONE.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HELPING ANY.
BUT IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, USUALLY, YOU KNOW, MY VOICE DOES TEND TO CARRY, SO USUALLY THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE, BUT IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, JUST LET ME KNOW.
[PRESENTATION(S)]
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A PRIMER ON SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS, WHILE THIS IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE, IT'S GOING TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN THERE ARE POTENTIAL ISSUES AND MAKE SURE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU KNOW IS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU SHOULD CONTACT ME.CONTACT THE CLERK, BUT ESPECIALLY CONTACT LEGAL BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU SOME EXTRA PROTECTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANY OF YOU ALL TO BE THE NEXT EXAMPLE.
AS FAR AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS ARRESTED OR HAD A TRIAL ON SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATION THAT WAS SENTENCED TO JAIL, WHO HAD TO PAY A FINE AND CERTAINLY WE DON'T WANT TAXPAYER MONEY IS GOING TO FINES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY.
SO THIS IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE, BUT IT'S GOING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE ISSUES THAT, HEY, THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE, MAYBE WE NEED TO WORRY.
SOME OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SO LONG.
IT'S SECOND NATURE, BUT I WANT TO.
I HAVE TO DO IT FOR THE ENTIRE GROUP.
SO BEAR WITH ME. OK, THE SUNSHINE LAW IS ESSENTIALLY THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO ACCESS THEIR GOVERNMENT ANY TIME THERE'S TWO OR MORE OF YOU ON THE SAME BOARD THAT WANT TO MEET TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING IT HAS TO BE IN THE PUBLIC.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S FORESEEABLE TO COME ABOUT YOUR BOARD, SO YOU ALL WERE ALL A POINT POINTED ABOUT.
MOST OF YOU BY COUNCIL, SOME OF YOU BY THE MAJORITY COUNCIL AND YOU WANT TO TALK TO A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, YOU WANT TO TALK TO MR. FELIX, YOU'RE FINE.
BUT THE TWO OF YOU WANT TO TALK.
YOU CAN'T DO IT UNLESS YOU'RE HERE AT A MEETING.
YOU CAN TALK TO SOMEBODY OUT FOR ANOTHER BOARD, BUT YOU CANNOT TALK TO ANYBODY ON YOUR BOARD ABOUT ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY COME BEFORE YOUR BOARD UNLESS IT'S AT A MEETING.
THESE ARE BASIC REQUIREMENTS, THE MEETING HAS TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE REASONABLE NOTICE, WHICH OUR CLERK WILL YOU DO IT? MINUTES OF THE MEETING MUST BE RECORDED AND IT HAS TO BE AT AN ACCESSIBLE LOCATION.
ESSENTIALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC MEANS OPEN TO ANYBODY WHO CARES TO BE PRESENT.
YOU CAN'T SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? HEY, WOULD YOU LEAVE? OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING AND YOU THINK IT HAS AFFECT EMPLOYEES OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF YOU GUYS WOULD VOLUNTARILY GO.
YOU CAN'T PERSUADE ANYBODY TO GO SO LONG AS THEY ARE HERE AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT IF THEY SEE FIT TO RECORD YOU.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HERE AND BE PRESENT, AND YOU CAN'T ACT TO EXCLUDE THEM SO LONG AS YOU'RE NOT HAMPERING THE MEETING FLOW.
YOU'LL HAVE A GENDER AND YOU'LL BE WORKING ON THOSE AGENDA SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN YOU EXPECTED.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY THAT EVERY SINGLE THING THAT YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU'RE NO, YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT, HEY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS PARTICULAR PART.
THAT'S REALLY NOT THE TIME TO KIND OF SLIP THAT IN AS AN UN, YOU KNOW, AGENDA ITEM.
THE MINUTES ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S USUALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW.
GUYS HAVE TO RATIFY THE MEETINGS, AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET INTO THE HABIT OF, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HEY, MOTION, YES, SECOND AND EVERYBODY GOES ON AND NOBODY REALLY PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO REALLY WHAT'S IN THE MINUTE BECAUSE YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MINUTES CONVEY WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL HELP OUT, ACTUALLY REVEAL THE MINUTES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ACCURATE. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF WHAT OCCURRED IN YOUR PROCEEDINGS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TRANSCRIPTS THEIR MINUTES, SO THEY ARE ABBREVIATED, BUT THEY NEED TO BE ACCURATE NONETHELESS.
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YOUR MEANS ARE GOING TO BE HERE, YOU KNOW, EVERY NOW AND THEN I GET REQUESTS.WELL, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHY CAN'T WE GET ON A BUS AND GO, LOOK HERE AND LOOK THERE? THE PUBLIC CAN'T BE ON THAT BUS WITH YOU.
YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A MEETING THAT'S IN.
YOU CAN'T HAVE SOME PLACE WHERE IT DISCRIMINATES AGAINST PEOPLE ON ANY TYPE OF PROTECTED.
AND EVEN THOUGH YOU GUYS MAY HAVE GREAT HOUSES AND IT MAY BE MORE COMFORTABLE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A MEETING IN A PRIVATE HOME.
WHERE I TELL YOU WHAT IS LEGAL, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT I PREFER.
YOU CAN HAVE ONE WAY COMMUNICATION, ONE WAY COMMUNICATION MEANS, HEY, THIS IS A PART OF THE CHARTER, AND I SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF YOU TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT I THINK AND HOW PASSIONATELY I THINK, AND THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY, AND THIS IS WHY IT SHOULD BE CHANGED. IT IS LEGAL.
IT ONLY BECOMES ILLEGAL WHEN ANY ONE OF YOU RESPOND.
SO WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO IS EVEN THOUGH IT IS LEGAL.
DON'T DO IT. BECAUSE ALL OF YOU ARE HERE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL CAN HELP US AND THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE STRONG OPINIONS AND HAVE OPINIONS THAT MATTER, WE'D MUCH RATHER YOU ALL BRING ALL THOSE OPINIONS OUT HERE IN THE OPEN.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU SAY SOMETHING, SOMEBODY EITHER AGREES WITH YOU OR DISAGREES YOU AND THEIR ATTEMPTED TO RESPOND.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY RESPOND TO YOU? YOU HAVE A SPECIAL LAW VIOLATION.
SO IF YOU ARE CONVERSING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MAY COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
SO ALTHOUGH IT IS TECHNICALLY LEGAL, I.
STRONGLY URGE YOU ALL NOT TO DO IT.
CERTAINLY, IF YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF, THAT'S FINE.
BUT AND ALSO THE SUNSHINE LAW IS MEANT TO EVADE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO GET CREATIVE.
SO, YOU KNOW, HE SAID SOMETHING.
BUT PATRICIA SAID, I CAN'T RESPOND TO HIM.
SO I'M GOING TO GET ON TWITTER AND I'M GOING TO ESSENTIALLY DO A RESPONSE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I RESPONDED TO HIM.
I HAVEN'T A THE LAW, RIGHT? YES, YOU HAVE. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR YOU GUYS TO GET CREATIVE IS NOT MEANT TO BE EVADED.
DO NOT SPEAK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE YOUR BOARD UNLESS YOU'RE AT A PUBLIC MEETING. CREATIVE ACTIVITY WILL PROBABLY GET YOU WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT BEING LIKE PEOPLE AND SEBASTIAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE THE PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGES WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, BEING ARRESTED, BEING REMOVED AND POTENTIALLY SENT TO JAIL.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ALSO HAVE TO BE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD OF COMMITTEE AND THEY HAVE TO HAPPEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
PRIOR TO YOU TAKING IT SOME TYPE OF OFFICIAL ACTION.
YOU FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THIS, AND THE CITY CAN BE ASSESSED ATTORNEY FEES, WHICH ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE AND THERE REALLY IS NO REASON NOT TO COMPLY WITH THIS.
PEOPLE CAN'T. YOU MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT WHOMEVER IT CHOOSES TO COME AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEIR OPINION, YOU NEED TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO SO.
OK, ANY ACTION THAT'S TAKEN IN VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW IS VOID.
AND AS I'VE BEEN MENTIONED, CRIMINAL PENALTIES, ANY BOARD MEMBER WHO KNOWINGLY VIOLATES THE SUNSHINE LAW IS GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR OF A SECOND DEGREE, SECOND DEGREE MISDEMEANOR OF THE 60 DAYS IN THE COUNTY JAIL.
AND AS FAR AS CRIMINAL PENALTIES, DO THEY HAVE AN AX TO PEOPLE AND SEBASTIAN? YES, THEY DO HAVE IT.
AND ONE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES, AS I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH.
THERE'S THE MENS REA TO THE GUILTY MIND.
IF YOU CONTACT ME OR SOME OTHER PERSON IN LEGAL, ANY OF MY STAFF AND YOU SAY, HEY, I'M THINKING ABOUT DOING X Y Z, SO LONG AS YOU ACTUALLY DESCRIBE ACCURATELY WHAT IT IS AND LET'S SAY SOMEHOW IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY, BUT SOMEHOW WE LET YOU WRONG AND YOU DID IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? YOUR MIND IS NOT GUILTY.
BECAUSE YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING, YOU GOT LEGAL ADVICE AND THERE IS NO MENSWEAR, SO TO AVOID CRIMINAL PENALTIES WHEN IN DOUBT, CONTACT LEGAL.
THERE'S ALSO NON-CRIMINAL INFRACTIONS, YOU CAN GET A FINE NOT EXCEEDING FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND ATTORNEY'S FEES GOING TO BE ASSESSED AGAINST THE BOARD, AND ATTORNEYS FEES ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE.
A PUBLIC RECORDS, THE DOCUMENTS, EVERYTHING IS VERY BROAD AND YOU'RE THE CUSTODIAN OF.
THE RECORDS THAT YOU CREATE, ANY PERSON WHO DESIRES TO ACTUALLY INSPECT IT HAS THE ABILITY TO DO SO.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU WHY THEY WANT TO DO IT.
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WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE.AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT RECORDS, DOCUMENTS, CORRESPONDENCE, TEXT MESSAGES, EMAILS, AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT TEXT MESSAGES BECAUSE TEXT MESSAGES ARE NOW THE THING THAT TENDS TO GET PEOPLE IN THE MOST TROUBLE.
I MEAN, THERE WERE, I MEAN, JUST A FEW CASES TOWARDS THE END OF LAST YEAR WHERE SOMEHOW ALL THE ATTORNEYS SEEM TO KNOW THAT TEXT MESSAGES.
OUR PUBLIC RECORDS SOMEHOW IS NOT MAKING IT TO OUR STAFF, AS SOME OTHER LISTENERS AND CITIES ARE BEING DINGED BIG TIME AS FAR AS ATTORNEY FEES JUDGES.
I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NO GETTING AROUND IT.
IF IT'S RELATED TO SOMETHING AS FAR AS CITY BUSINESS, IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD.
YOU DON'T PROVIDE IT, YOU GET ATTORNEYS FEES.
AND LIKE I SAID, THESE THINGS ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE.
SOMETIMES YOU GET QUESTIONS YOU KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT FORM IT'S REALLY.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT FORM, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE IT IS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT IS ON A CITY COMPUTER.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S ON A CITY.
PHONE DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU USE A CITY EMAIL ADDRESS EVER AS PRIVATE, IT DOES NOT MATTER THE FORM.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S EMAIL TEXT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER. WHAT YOU NEED TO FOCUS UPON IS WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING THAT IS MADE PURSUANT OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE BOARD'S OFFICIAL BUSINESS.
AND THE EASIEST THING THAT I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE IS TO REMEMBER KCA WAS IT MADE TO PERPETUATE, COMMUNICATE OR FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE.
IF IT FITS INTO ANY ONE OF THOSE.
YES, THE PUBLIC RECORD. AS FAR AS WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THIS PUBLIC RECORD, I'M KEEPING IT, HOW LONG DO I KEEP IT, WHATEVER I NEED TO DO? THERE'S A RETENTION SCHEDULE.
CONTACTING CITY CLERK, THE CITY CLERK HAS IT THEY KNOW WHAT THE RECORDS RETENTION, AND THEY'LL MAKE SURE IT'S RETAINED FOR THE PROPER ON TIME.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE EMAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES.
IF YOU MAKE IT, YOU RECEIVE IT, AND IT'S ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WHAT YOUR GUARD IS DOING.
IT. YOU HAVE A HARD TIME KEEPING IT.
I KNOW THERE'S CERTAINLY WAYS THAT IF YOU TALK TO A CITY MANAGER, CLARK, AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE THESE TEXT MESSAGES, I KNOW EVEN, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH THE FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO SAY, HEY, I TRY TO DEACTIVATE MY PHONE.
I TELL PEOPLE NOT TO TEXT ME BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN WANT TO HAVE TO BOTHER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I STILL GET THESE TEXTS.
ONCE YOU GET IT, WHETHER YOU ASK FOR IT OR NOT, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PRESERVING IT. BECAUSE, HEY, IF THERE'S A REQUEST THAT COMES UP AND WE DON'T PROVIDE IT THERE, THERE IS NO EXCUSE THE JUDGE WANTS TO HEAR.
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE AFTER 30 DAYS, YOUR PHONE AUTOMATICALLY DELETES IT. THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE.
WE WILL STILL BE. THE OTHER THING THAT COMES UP A LOT IS.
AND IT USUALLY HAPPENS BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A POINT.
AND SO YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME NOTES AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE OR MAYBE SOMEBODY WATCHING.
LIKE, THEY DO A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST FOR YOUR NOTES AND.
SOMEBODY FROM THE CLASS REACHED OUT TO YOU, IF THEN WE GET THIS.
WELL, DO I HAVE TO PROVIDE IT? YES. IF YOU'RE HERE AT A MEETING AND YOU'RE READING FROM THIS, YOU'RE REFERRING TO IT.
WHATEVER IS THERE IS, HOW CAN YOU COMMUNICATE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'VE GAINED? SO, YES. OR YOU'RE WRITING SOMETHING AND YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE MEETING, HOW YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS.
SUGGESTION FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.
YOU HAVEN'T QUITE FINISHED IT, BUT THEN YOU GET THIS PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO SEE WHAT YOU'VE GOT AND YOU'RE LIKE, I'M NOT FINISHED, SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT. THERE'S NO UNFINISHED RECORDS.
YOU GOT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S NOT FINISHED, BUT WHATEVER YOU HAVE YOU CREATED.
IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD. TO PERPETUATE, COMMUNICATE OR FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE IS THE PUBLIC RECORD. THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO STATUTORILY COMPLY WITH.
WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT A REQUEST WITHIN TWENTY FOUR HOURS.
ARE GOING TO COME IN. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
THERE IS A INCENTIVE FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO THROUGH THE CLERK BECAUSE IF WE DON'T COMPLY AND THEY WANT TO BE ATTORNEYS FEES, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
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BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.THEY CAN ACTUALLY REQUEST IT FROM YOU.
SO IF YOU GET THE REQUEST, IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET IT INDIVIDUALLY FOR YOU TO MAKE THAT UP THAT THE CLERKS KNOW SO THAT WE CAN PROPERLY RESPOND TO IT.
THE PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY WHY THEY WANTED WHO THEY ARE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT IN WRITING.
SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE, WELL, SOMEBODY ASKED ME FOR, YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS READING FROM, BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE AN OFFICIAL REQUEST.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING. THERE IS NO SUCH THING.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IN WRITING.
WE HAVE TO JUST ONLY DETERMINE IF WE CAN HAVE IT.
WE CAN CHARGE A REASONABLE FEE.
THEN THERE WE GET TWO EXEMPTIONS, MOST LIKELY, THERE PROBABLY ISN'T NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF EXEMPTIONS FOR YOU, BUT YOU ALL HAVE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
BUT IF THERE IS A REASON TO BELIEVE THAT PART OF WHATEVER YOU HAVE SHOULD BE EXEMPT AND IT SHOULDN'T BE DISCLOSED, WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT BECAUSE.
HIS OFFICE, WE DON'T GET TO CREATE OUR OWN EXEMPTIONS.
IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE CODIFIED IN STATUTE, WHATEVER EXEMPTION, IF THERE'S NOT AN EXEMPTION IN STATUTE.
THEN IT HAS TO BE PROVIDED AND THE PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO ASK US, YOU KNOW, OK, YOU'RE NOT YOUR DAD TO THAT. WHY? NOW, WHAT WHAT STATUTORY BASIS DO YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK THAT AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE PROVIDED THAT RESPONSE? OF COURSE, FEDERAL LAW SUPERSEDES FLORIDA LAW, IF IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THE FEDERAL LAW SAYS HAS TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL, THEN IT HAS TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL AND WON'T BE FOR.
NONCOMPLIANCE, OF COURSE, CRIMINAL PENALTIES, YOU COULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
THERE IS NOW CRIMINAL FRACTIONS THERE, THE ATTORNEY FEES, AND THERE IS INJUNCTIVE AND DECLARATORY RELIEF WHERE ESSENTIALLY A PERSON CAN GO TO COURT AND HAVE A JUDGE SAY, HEY, THEY HAD A RIGHT. I HAVE A RIGHT TO RECEIVE THIS.
I DIDN'T PROVIDE IT. AND THE JUDGE MANDATES THAT WE PROVIDE IT.
AND THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT CASES GETTING BOGGED DOWN AND IT TAKES FOREVER. WELL, THEY HAVE A SHORT CIRCUIT.
THEY GET TO GET IN FRONT OF ALL THE OTHER CASES FOR A PUBLIC RECORDS VIOLATION.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE FOREVER.
IT TAKES IMMEDIATE PRIORITY TO GET HELP PERFORMANCE.
AND LET'S JUST SAY AFTER THEY FILED THEIR SUIT.
OH GOSH, I'M SO SORRY, I'VE GOT IT NOW.
HERE YOU GO. SO EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO FILE A LAWSUIT TO GET THAT WHICH THEY ARE OTHERWISE ENTITLED TO.
SO OUR LIABILITY STILL CONTINUES, EVEN IF YOU SOMEHOW MIRACULOUSLY GET IT AFTER THE LAWSUIT HAS BEEN FILED.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROTECTIONS AS FAR AS CITIES BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE REQUESTING PUBLIC RECORDS, NOT BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY WANTED IT, ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW WHY THEY WANTED IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, BUT IT WAS MORE LIKE STATUE.
YOU KNOW, YOU FIND, YOU KNOW, SOME RANDOM PERSON OUT IN THE FIELD, YOU MAKE A REQUEST, THE PERSON DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT NEVER GETS YOU FIND IT OR YOU CREATE A BUNCH OF LINKS.
YOU DO SOMETHING A LITTLE FUNKY SO THAT THEIR SPAM FILTER GETS IT AND NOBODY RESPONDS.
THEY DIDN'T COMPLY. YOU SEND IT AND YOU ASK FOR ATTORNEY FEES.
YOU KNOW, WE TELL YOU WHO TO CONTACT.
YOU GO THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE, HEY, WE DON'T PROVIDE IT.
THEN YOU HAVE TO TELL US, HEY, CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND THEN WE GET IT TIME BEFORE YOU FILE A LAWSUIT TO COMPLY AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS DONE. BUT IF AFTER THEY FILED A LAWSUIT, THE JUDGE SAYS, HEY, YOU SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED WE DON'T GET ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT.
BECAUSE YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD IT.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T CARE HOW MUCH LABOR IT IS, IT'S NOT LIKE THE NORMAL.
OH YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY LABOR INTENSIVE.
WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A LONG TIME.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE THIS OR THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, THEY HAD TO FOLLOW US.
SO THEY HAD TO DO ALL THIS, FIGURE IT OUT AND DO IT QUICKLY.
SO IT IS A REALLY BIG DEAL AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ANY CRIMINAL LAW MENSWEAR.
IT HAS TO BE KNOWING IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT, CONTACT MY OFFICE.
AND THIS PUBLIC RECORDS LAW IS A FIRST DEGREE MISDEMEANOR.
REMEMBER THE SUNSHINE LAW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A SECOND DEGREE.
THIS IS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS CRIME AS FAR AS THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS CONCERNED, A FIRST DEGREE MISDEMEANOR IS PUNISHABLE BY UP TO A YEAR IN THE COUNTY JAIL.
THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE. THAT IS YOUR SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, IN A NUTSHELL,
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LIKE I SAID, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A LOT FOR THOSE OF YOU, ALL THAT ARE NEW.CERTAINLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NOW, I'M UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
IF SOMETHING COMES ALONG LATER, I YOU CAN ALWAYS CONTACT ME.
SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW ME SEE ME ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS, BUT I HAVE VERY ACCESSIBLE.
LAST THING I WANT IS ANY OF MY BOARD MEMBERS OR ANY OF MY EMPLOYEES TO BE IN TROUBLE.
THANK YOU. OK, SO AS I'M SITTING HERE, I WAS THINKING OF OTHER THINGS. HERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO A QUESTION EARLIER.
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SO ABSOLUTELY MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU NEED INFORMATION ABOUT HOW CERTAIN CITY OPERATIONS ARE OCCURRING, THAT IS RELATED TO YOUR REVIEW OF THE CHARTER, JUST REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE ANY TIME.I'LL MAKE SURE YOU ALL HAVE MY BUSINESS CARD BEFORE WE LEAVE YOU TONIGHT IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE MY CONTACT. SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER.
THANK YOU. SO EARLIER, I HAD STATED THAT THERE ARE AREAS OF THE CHARTER THAT BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE AMENDING DUE TO IT'S HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY OR LEGALLY, YOU CAN'T REALLY TOUCH IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET A JUMP START INTO THE NEXT MEETING. SO OF COURSE, IN THE CHARTER, THERE ARE 10 ARTICLES AND SO ARTICLES, ONE AND TWO DEAL WITH THE CREATION OF THE CITY, THE POWERS, DEFINITIONS, THE BOUNDARIES THOSE WERE NOT GOING TO MESS WITH. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE JUMPING RIGHT INTO ARTICLE THREE, WHICH IS LEGISLATIVE. WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE ARTICLE THREE, ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE FIVE OF THE NEXT MEETING. I THINK THOSE WILL GIVE US A SIMPLE START.
I KNOW STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE SOME MODIFICATIONS, SO THOSE WILL BE THE MAIN ONES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, BRINGING YOUR ANY REVISIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
BRING THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL GO OVER.
THOSE HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.
THINGS GET TABLED IF NECESSARY, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'LL START.
YES. YEAH, AS FAR AS WHAT STAFF WILL PRESENT, MOST LIKELY WE WILL INCLUDE IT IN THE AGENDA PACKET THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, MR. MOORE. NOW THEY'LL COME TO THE MEETING IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THEN THE BOARD CAN TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.
CORRECT. OK, IF THEY'RE THE LAST TIME, THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
MR. CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT? I GUESS ON RECORD FOR NOMINATING ME, BUT I THINK IN A WAY TO BECOME FAMILIAR AND EVERYBODY HERE, I KNOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE.
I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START FROM PHIL, SO PEOPLE KIND OF GET IT TO WHO YOU'RE SITTING HERE WITH. AND IF YOU COULD JUST NAME AND WHO APPOINTED YOU AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY, I THINK IF WE COULD DO THAT, WE'LL GET THAT PART OUT OF THE WAY.
SO THEN WE'RE A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH EACH OTHER.
PASS IT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, MY NAME IS PHIL WEINBERG.
I'M A RETIRED REAL ESTATE APPRAISER.
I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMISSION IN THE LAST REVIEW COMMISSION WE HAD IN 2016.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, CHAIRMAN OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE TPO.
THAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN MELBOURNE TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.
I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN DONNIE FELIX.
KEN DELGADO, PASTOR OF THE HOUSE HERE IN PALM BAY, ALSO IN THE 16 CHARTER REVIEW, ALSO WAS AN ASSISTANT MANAGER AT WINN-DIXIE AND ALSO SPEARHEADED A AN EXPANSION OF CAMPER BUSINESS SYSTEMS OF MELBOURNE INTO A TRI TRI COUNTY AREA.
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BACK IN THE HEYDAY, FROM VERO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO STUART AND ALL THE WAY OVER TO OKEECHOBEE, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.APPOINTMENT OR APPOINTED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
MY ORGANIZATION IS CALLED DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT INC.
WE ALSO HAVE A NONPROFIT SIDE OF THAT AS WELL.
WE DO LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOPS AND TRAININGS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
I SIT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS WELL.
AND. THAT WAS APPOINTED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
MY NAME IS DAVID MYERS, AND I WAS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, ALSO SERVED THESE OTHER GENTLEMEN IN 2016.
I PASTOR THE EASTLAND CHURCH ON EMERSON AND MY BACKGROUND IS IN THE LEGAL FIELD.
I WORKED WITH LIBERTY COUNCIL UPON GRADUATING FROM LAW SCHOOL, DEFENDING FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES RELIGIOUS CIVIL LIBERTIES.
GOOD EVENING, JORDAN CHANDLER.
I'M A GOVERNMENT RELATIONS CONSULTANT.
YOU PROBABLY READ BETWEEN THE LINES ON THAT ONE FOR A GOVERNMENT CONSULTING FIRM CALLED SPACE COAST STRATEGY.
I WAS APPOINTED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND ALSO SIMULTANEOUSLY SERVING ON THE BOVARD COUNTY CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WAS APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER CSONKA.
I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN DANNY FELIX.
MY MAJOR EAR AS A PRACTICE WAS RELEASED BY LAW, EDUCATION AND LAW AND A GENERAL PRACTICE.
I'M HERE TO DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP MY CITY.
I AM A LARGE MEMBER REPRESENTING THE FEMALES HERE TODAY.
I CURRENTLY SIT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.
I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS CHARTER REVIEW IS TO OUR CITY, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING ON IT AND SEE HOW MUCH HOW WE CAN IMPACT THE CITY GOING FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS PHIL MOORE.
I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN RANDY FOSTER AND I CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE UTILITIES ADVISORY BOARD AND THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD.
HAPPY TO BE HERE, AND IT'S MY FIRST TIME IN THE CHARTER REVIEW.
AS MOST PEOPLE HERE KNOW, I'M THE FORMER MAYOR OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW, I SIT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING AT THE COUNTY, SO APPOINTED BY A COMMISSIONER TO BUYER.
I ALSO SIT ON THE PENSION BOARD FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I STILL STAY ACTIVE THAT WAY, UM APPOINTED BY COUNCILMAN RANDY FOSTER, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS RESPONSIBILITY THAT PHIL PUT ON ME.
AND SO SOMETIMES YOU JUST CAN'T SIT QUIET AND JUST LISTEN.
AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY HERE AND FIND COMMON IDEAS.
UNDERSTAND, JUST LIKE WHEN I SET UP THERE, WE'RE KIND OF MAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD.
EVERYTHING IS NOT IN STONE, JUST TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE FIRST TIME I KNOW THAT YOU.
THERE'S ON THAT SIDE THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE DONE THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES.
SO BUT REMEMBER THAT WE'RE WORKING TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY AS.
MR FILIBERTO, PUT IT SO, PETER, MORE FRIENDLY, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE AND WE'RE GOING TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.
WE'RE GOING TO AGREE TO DISAGREE AND SOMETIMES THE VOTE IS NOT GOING TO GO YOUR WAY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNANIMOUS.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNANIMOUS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
AND LET'S GET TO THE NEXT THING.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT US ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER.
WE HAVE A MISSION TO ACCOMPLISH.
WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT TO THE CITY CLERK.
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YES. OK, I GUESS WE'LL SEE EACH OTHER.ONE THING THAT KIND OF GOT THROWN, EVERYBODY'S OK WITH ITS DATES, RIGHT? OK. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE KIND OF JUMPED INTO THE SUNSHINE AND I DIDN'T HEAR THE WHOLE FULL, EVERYBODY WAS FINE.
SO WITH THAT MEETING ADJOURNED.
ENJOY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.