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I WANT TO CALL TO ORDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING 2022 ONE.

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ROLL CALL. SIR BORKOWSKI, PRESIDENT, MR PRESIDENT, MR JOHNSON, YOU'RE HIS BEARD.

MR LAZAR. IS MARRIAGE? MR MAUREEN. MR. PAYNE. MR PRICE.

IT'S RIGHT. WORTH ATTORNEY JENNIFER COCKCROFT.

THANK YOU. I NEEDED SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION, A MINUTE FOR REGULAR MEETING,

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

TWENTY TWENTY ONE ELEVEN, SO.

SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION.

I HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.

I. SO PAST NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. MOVE ON TO OLD AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[OLD/UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO PROGRAM YEAR 2020-2021 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

REP CENTER. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE BROUGHT FORTH AT ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS TO REALLOCATE THE THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ROUGHLY FROM FIRE RESCUE FOR THEIR DEMOLITION PROJECT FOR OLD FIRE STATION 1'S FUTURE SITE OF FIRE STATION SEVEN TO A QUINT TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF IT. IT'S TIME FOR THE FULL PRICE, BUT THAT WOULD REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.

IT'S A DIFFERENT ACTIVITY, SO IT DOES TRIGGER A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT.

AND THEN WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING $3000 OF AN EXPENDED CBG FUNDS TOWARDS BENJI'S AT LIBERIA PARK.

DID HE COMMENT FROM THE BOARD? OK. IN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL AMENDMENT SO MOVED, I HAVE A MOTION NEED A SECOND SECOND MOTION, SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR I GERMANY.

ALL RIGHT. ONE NAY.

MR. BEAR. YOU DO BUSINESS WE HAVE

[NEW BUSINESS]

FOR CONSIDERATION FOR SELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIR.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY I WAS WONDERFUL THIS PAST YEAR AND I, YOU KNOW, WISH TO BE US, BE MOVING FORWARD AS CHAIR.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR.

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR REBECCA TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE CHAIR.

I CONTINUE ON MR ALLEN, YOU'VE BEEN GREAT.

YOU'VE HELD IT. YOU'VE HELD DOWN THE FORT.

YOU'VE KEPT IT CONSISTENT.

YOU'VE KEPT IT CONCISE.

AND WHAT I DO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE HOW YOU WERE A VICE CHAIR BEFORE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE HER GIVE IT A SHOT AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHO I WANT TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR.

IF YOU WANT TO DO IT AGAIN OR ANYBODY ELSE.

I'M FINE WITH PUTTING YOU BACK AT VICE CHAIR UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE SHOWS INTEREST.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT MR. REBECCA CAN DO AS WELL.

SO. YOU I THINK MR BORKOWSKI HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, BUT HERE TO SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BUT I'M OK WITH BEING CHAIR AS WELL.

I WOULD SECOND, I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

OK, THANK YOU. SO I WOULD SECOND REBECCA BEING CHAIR AND I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM SWITCHING THE ROLES.

I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY GIVE OTHERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO AND OPPORTUNITIES.

SO I WOULD SECOND.

WELL. OK, I GUESS LET'S VOTE ON REBECCA.

YEAH. E.J., YOU FIRST.

SO ALL IN FAVOR FOR REBECCA TO BE THE NEW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR.

I. I.

ALL RIGHT. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, AND I'M PERFECTLY FINE TAKING THE THE VICE CHAIR ROLE, SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION, ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. ALAN BORKOWSKI AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION, THE SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. WE FLIP FLOP ROLES.

I GOT TO GO, OH MY GOSH, THE PRESSURE, YOU GUYS.

OK, SO ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVES REPORT FOR THE LAST TWENTY TWENTY TO TWENTY TWENTY THREE.

HUH? YES.

BACK IN THE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR TO LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THEY THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD COME BEFORE YOU BACK IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN WHEN THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN TWENTY TWENTY SHIP LAP

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FOR THE AUDIENCE, THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN CAME BEFORE YOU AND PRIOR TO THE 2020 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, YOU HAD TO REVIEW IT ON A EVERY THREE YEARS WHEN YOU WERE SUBMITTING YOUR LAP. THAT HAS CHANGED, SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO REVIEW THESE THE HOUSING INCENTIVE REPORTS ANNUALLY.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND OUR CURRENT HAP EVERY YEAR BASED ON THOSE THE HOUSING INCENTIVE REPORT INCORPORATED INTO OUR PLAN OR SO.

I ACTUALLY WENT BACK TO THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN, YOU ACTUALLY HAD TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS ABOUT THIS, I ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND WATCHED THOSE TWO MEETINGS.

I NOTICED THAT FROM WHAT I COULD TELL YOU, DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF BREAKDOWN AS TO WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT HOUSING INCENTIVES WERE.

SO I LISTEN TO THOSE MEETINGS, LOOK BACK AND TRY TO DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS I CAN TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT EACH OF THOSE INCENTIVES WERE, WHAT'S REQUIRED AND WHAT YOU ACTUALLY VOTED ON AT THE LAST MEETING.

SO THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.

BUT THIS IS A SENSE.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD AND I SAY SOME OF THIS INFORMATIVE MORE FOR OUR AUDIENCE SINCE WE DO HAVE A BIG AUDIENCE TONIGHT IS YOU DO SERVE AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE STATE, AND THIS IS ONE OF YOUR FUNCTIONS THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE 11 INCENTIVES AND EITHER MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE IT, STAY THE SAME OR.

ARE NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

THERE ARE THREE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO DO SO THAT THERE IS NO MOTION NECESSARY ON THOSE.

HMM. AND SO I INDICATED THAT IN YOUR IN THE REVIEW OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVE STRATEGY, SO NUMBER ONE, THE PROCESS OF APPROVALS OF DEVELOPMENT ORDERS OR PERMITS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, IT'S EXPEDITED TO A GREATER DEGREE THAN OTHER PROJECTS.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT, SO THERE IS NO MOTION NECESSARY.

NUMBER NINE, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROCESS BY WHICH A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS BEFORE ADOPTION POLICIES, PROCEDURES, ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS OR PLAN PROVISIONS THAT INCREASE THE COST OF HOUSING.

THAT IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT, SO NO MOTION IS NECESSARY.

AND THEN NUMBER 10, THE PREPARATION OF A PRINTED INVENTORY OF LOCALLY OWNED PUBLIC LAND SUITABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT TO NOTE MOTION WOULD BE NECESSARY ON THAT ITEM, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN MAKE A MOTION ON EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY. YES, THE BOARD WANT TO JUST GO DOWN THE LIST AND.

PROCEDURE ONE. YES.

OK, SO NUMBER TWO IS ALL ALLOWABLE FEE WAIVERS PROVIDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YEAH. UM, I'M ON SORRY MODIFICATION OF I'M SORRY, NUMBER TWO, MODIFICATION OF IMPACT FEE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING REDUCTION OR WAIVER OF FEES AND ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF PAYMENT FOR. SO.

WHAT IS IT, OR I CAN GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, SO RIGHT NOW, ALL WAIVERS.

ANY REDUCTION TO A WAIVER OR IMPACT FEE HAS TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL THERE.

SO IF YOU. SO YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU DID REVIEW THIS INCENTIVE AND IT CARRIED WITH.

SEVEN MEMBERS VOTING YAY WITH ONE VOTING NAY, THAT THERE WOULD BE NO ACTION AGAINST A MODIFICATION, MEANING THAT YOU WOULD NOT, YOU DECIDED NOT TO IMPLEMENT ANYTHING OR DO NOT RECOMMEND MAKING ANY CHANGE TO THAT INCENTIVE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO REDUCE THOSE WAIVERS BASED ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.

SO IF YOU DECIDED THAT YOU WANTED TO PURSUE THAT, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR ULTIMATE APPROVAL.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO I KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES GIVE AUTOMATIC IMPACT FEE WAIVERS OR BEING OUT OF CERTAIN.

AM I THAT HOW PALM BAY IS CURRENTLY SET UP OR NO, NO, WE THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY WAIVERS IN PLACE OR AS FAR AS IMPACT FEES IT WOULD HAVE TO.

IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE THAT AUTOMATICALLY HAS THAT WAIVER INPUT, THAT WAIVER AUTOMATICALLY. SO IT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT BECAUSE IT IS A INCENTIVE. YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

I'M SORRY, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE INCENTIVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS TO GET THE WAIVER ON THE IMPACT FEE BECAUSE IT CAN HELP THEM WITH THE POINTS THEY NEED TO WHEN THEIR REQUESTS FOR APPLICATIONS.

FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IN THE BACK END ALL THE CRITERIAS THAT NEED TO BE MET.

AND SO I WOULD NOT NECESSARILY SAY, LET'S CHANGE IT TO GIVE AUTOMATIC UNTIL I KNEW ALL

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THE DETAILS IN THE BACK END OF WHAT CRITERIA THEY WOULD NEED TO MEET, ETC.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS THE PROCESS IN PLACE FOR IF SOMEBODY DID WANT TO REQUEST A WAIVER OR REDUCTION OF THEIR IMPACT FEES, THEY COULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT PROCESS CURRENTLY IS IN PLACE.

BUT ITS ATMOSPHERE WAS WAS CONSIDERING AS FAR AS AN AUTOMATIC REDUCTION THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN PLACE. AND OTHER MODELS HAVE IT TO WEAR IF THEY'RE AT A, LET'S SAY, 50 PERCENT ARMY, THEY GET 50 PERCENT OF THEIR IMPACT BE WAIVED.

AND IF THEY'RE AT A LOWER LIKE A 30 PERCENT ARMY, THEY RECEIVE 100 PERCENT OF THE IMPACT FEES WAIVED. BY DOING THAT AND HAVING THAT IN POLICY, DEVELOPERS KNOW THOSE THINGS.

I'M A NONPROFIT DEVELOPER AND WOULD HAD NO IDEA THAT'S THE CITY OF PALM BAY OFFERED ANY KIND OF IMPACT THE WAIVER.

AT ALL, SO WE ALSO HAVE OTHER DEVELOPERS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OR THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM WHAT THEY BELIEVE IT MIGHT, HOW IT MIGHT HELP THE CITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE CITY CAN SPEAK TO ANY PERSONS ARE REFUSING TO DEVELOP HERE IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF THAT.

I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY DEVELOPER, NOT.

IT'S NOT REALLY THAT BE MORE OF A BUILDING QUESTION, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF IT BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING IF I'M A DEVELOPER, I WOULD COME TO ANY CITY AND SAY, LET ME SEE WHAT YOUR POLICIES ARE AS IT RELATES TO ANY IN ANY DECISION THAT IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT, I WOULDN'T JUST LET'S JUST NOT TALK TO A CITY AT ALL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

IF THE CITY CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT I'M I'M OPEN TO HAVING, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOPING THAT ALL DEVELOPERS ARE READY TO DO IT.

SO IF THAT'S AN INCENTIVES, I'M OK WITH THAT.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S NECESSARY.

I AGREE WITH MR. MARAJ THAT IT SHOULD BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT GOES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

IN FACT, THESE ARE NOT ARBITRARY FEES THAT ARE CHARGED BY THE CITY.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND YOUR SERVICES.

SO YES, WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS DO ALSO UTILIZE THOSE CITY SERVICES.

SO I THINK HAVING A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHERE A DEVELOPER CAN COME IN TO STAFF AND MEET WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND THEN TAKING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

HAS SHOWN TO BE A GOOD PROCESS, AND I DON'T WANT TO COMPLETELY WAIVE IMPACT FEES FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT. YES, I AGREE WITH THE.

OCEAN TO CONTINUE THE MODIFICATION OF IMPACT FEE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING REDUCTION OR WAIVER OF FEES AND ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF PAYMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I FAVOR HIGH.

ON NUMBER THREE, THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBILITY AND DENSITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WE HAVE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OH, NO, NO, SORRY, WE'RE WE'RE ON.

NO, SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE. APOLOGIZE, NOT ITEM NUMBER THREE.

OK. SO I REMEMBER THREE IS THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBILITY AND DENSITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO THERE IS ALREADY A PROCESS IN PLACE TO REQUEST A DENSER CATEGORY FROM WHAT I COULD TELL BASED ON THE LAST MEETING, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT SINCE THE LAST MEETING IS THAT REQUEST FOR DENSITY FLEXIBILITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS VERY MINIMAL.

AND AS OF TWENTY SEVENTEEN, THEY DID NOT.

THE CITY DID NOT HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT HAS REALLY.

CHANGED, AND AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS NO THE BOARD DECIDED NOT TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE ALLOWANCE OF THIS, SO THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE TO REQUEST IT, BUT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF.

I'LL SAY THAT IN OTHER CITIES, THEY HAVE A STANDARD THAT THEY DO SO.

WELL, SAY IN IF IT'S.

ZONE FOR THIS MANY, IF YOU'RE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY GIVE YOU AN AUTOMATIC PERCENTAGE UP FOR DENSITY.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THEY'RE JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER.

AND AGAIN, THESE THINGS MAY BE ON THE BOOKS THAT DEVELOPERS CAN COME AND REQUEST, BUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW, THEY CAN COME AND REQUEST THEM AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME AND REQUEST THEM SO. AND AS A DEVELOPER, I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD REQUEST THESE THINGS AS WELL.

AND THAT MAY BE WHY WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS FOR DENSITY.

WELL, THERE IS A THE DENSITY IS AND REQUESTING THAT IS IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. SO ANY DEVELOPER AT ANY TIME HAS ACCESS TO OR COMPREHENSIVE

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PLAN. BUT THE DENSITY, ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS ESTABLISHED BY THE FUTURE OF LAND DESIGNATION DESIGNATION THAT'S WRITING ON TOP OF THAT PROPERTY.

BUT THERE'S NO REALLY A PROCESS IN PLACE TO VARY FROM THAT, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.

BUT. OH, I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING.

IS THIS SAYING THAT WE ARE ALLOWING FLEXIBILITY, WE WANT TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY.

IF YOU VOTED TO TAKE ACTION ON IT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD RECOMMEND WHAT KIND OF ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE DID YOU WANT FOR THE FLEXIBILITY OF IT, THERE IS A PLACE TO REQUEST A DENSER.

CATEGORY, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS GOTTEN VERY MINIMAL REQUESTS FOR MADAM CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO THIS IS ONE ITEM I WANTED TO LOOK AT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LOOKING MORE INTO IT. YOU HAVE MANDATORY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, YOU HAVE VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING AND VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LOOK AT IS, YOU KNOW, INCREASED DENSITY OR OR SETBACK THINGS OF THAT NATURE FOR PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULDN'T MIND LOOKING INTO AND REQUIRES TO INCREASING DENSITY FOR THOSE LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S BY A PERCENTAGE LIKE MISCARRY, AS MISCARRIES STATED.

SO BUT I DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW A, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OUT THERE SAYING 20 PERCENT OR WHATEVER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE MAKE AN EMOTION, YOU KNOW, TO CONSIDER INCREASING DENSITY FOR FLEXIBILITY OR WHAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD LOOK IN REGARDS TO AN EXACT NUMBER AT THIS TIME. JUST THIS SUGGESTION, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE SORT OF PRESENTATION? SOMEONE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY MEAN BECAUSE I.

DON'T KNOW THAT THE BOARD. OOSTENDE, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE ALL MAY BE INTERESTED IN WHAT THAT THAT ADDITIONAL DENSITY WOULD MEAN, BUT IT NOT.

AUTOMATIC R KNOW WHAT TO RECOMMEND, YEAH.

LIKE, I THINK MAYBE.

MINING STAFFERS ARE URGING.

DO YOU NEED EMOTION ON THIS LIKE TIME SENSITIVE TONIGHT? WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AND BRING THIS FORWARD.

YEAH. JUST SO YOU'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, BACK IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN, IF THERE WAS A AN ITEM THAT YOU WANTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON, WE TABLED IT TO THE NEXT MEETING SO YOU CAN VOTE ON THE CERTAIN ONES.

AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE WELL, BASED ON WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR, WHO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.

AND THEN ONCE ALL OF THE HOUSING STRATEGIES, INCENTIVES, YOU'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL OF THEM, THEN WE'LL PREPARE A REPORT TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS SO WE CAN BRING SOMEBODY BACK IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIRE.

SO I MEAN.

FIRST, THE BOARD THINKS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM THE PLANNING STAFF OR EVEN FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY MEAN AND HOW WE WOULD IMPLEMENT IT AND.

HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THEM AND MAYBE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, DO THEY HAVE PEOPLE SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DENSITY AND SO THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPING? SANDRA? YEAH, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED, OH, GO AHEAD.

THIS IS SORT OF NEW TO ME, THE CONCEPT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I HAD ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WHAT MADE HOUSING AFFORDABLE.

WAS EITHER HOW MUCH RENT YOU PAID.

OR HOW MUCH YOUR MORTGAGE PAYMENT WAS AND WHETHER A PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS EIGHT UNITS ON IT OR 10 OR 30.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD.

THE RENTS NOW WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS, OF COURSE, ON THIS 30 UNIT PROJECT ON CONVERT, FOR EXAMPLE.

ALL RIGHT. ACTUALLY, WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT ONE WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.

I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO CALL IT OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR NANCY, BUT I THINK SHE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME MORE QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBILITY. OH, NANCY, ANYMORE, NANCY, BUT WE NEED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

I ALSO HAVE A BACKGROUND IN PLANNING AND ZONING, HAVING OVERSEEN THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS AT A DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITY.

SO THE CITY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO OFFER THESE DENSITY BONUSES. THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN DO THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

YOU WOULD ALSO KIND OF WANT TO THINK ABOUT REALLY LOOKING AT A CASE BY CASE BASIS BECAUSE THE BOARD AND COUNCIL WILL WANT TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY WHAT DENSITIES YOU WOULD BE WANTING TO GIVE AND FOR WHAT REASON.

SO YOU, THE CITY, CAN DO THAT THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO THERE IS MECHANISMS ALREADY SET UP.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS ONLY

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BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO DO A BLANKET DENSITY BONUS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY SAY IT CAN BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WHAT YOU'RE APPLYING ACTUALLY FITS WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT BASED ON.

I MEAN, YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT A 50 UNIT SUBDIVISION OR MEANA APARTMENT COMPLEX VERSUS A TWO HUNDRED. SO YOU REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKING.

YOU KNOW, IT REALLY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ELDERLY ONLY SENIOR HOUSING, YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT ONE PARKING SPOT PER UNIT.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MULTIFAMILY WITH A LOT OF THREE OR FOUR BEDROOMS, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO GO DOWN TO ONE ONE WHEN PARKING SPACE PER UNIT.

SO THIS GIVES THE BOARD THE ABILITY TO SEE THE PROJECT AND ALSO FOR THE COUNCIL TO VOTE ON IT. MM HMM.

THANK YOU. HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

DON'T LEAVE, DON'T LEAVE.

THIS MARRIAGE WAS FIRST. GO AHEAD.

OH, I WOULD JUST SAY IN THAT CASE, ARE WE JUST ALLOWING IT AS IS IF WE AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID? ARE WE ALLOWING IT AS IS OR WE NEED TO? THAT'S WHY THE BOARD DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

NO. AND THAT WOULD BE THE IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, THEN THAT WOULD AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO.

MOVE FORWARD WITH IN YOUR MOTION WOULD BE TO TAKE NO ACTION AGAINST THIS INCENTIVES.

WE DON'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE.

YEAH. I CAN TELL YOU NOW THAT EVEN IF THE DENSITY, LET'S SAY, WAS 20 UNITS PER ACRE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT WITH ST.

JOHN'S FOR RETENTION CAPACITY, SO TO REDUCE SETBACKS, YOU'RE REALLY ELIMINATING LAND THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED FOR RETENTION.

IT'S SIMPLE.

AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A TWO OR THREE BEDROOM UNIT, YOU NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES.

SO THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HIGHER DENSITY IS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE AQUA. OVER ON.

BUT. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, AND THAT IS.

WHY, WHY WOULD ONE, YOU KNOW, INCREASING DENSITY DOES NOT NECESSARILY MAKE RENTS MORE AFFORDABLE? AND I ADDRESSED THAT.

IT MAKES THE DEVELOPERS PRO FORMA WORK SOMETIMES.

SO HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO A DENSER PROJECT HELPS THE PRO FORMA THE OPERATING PRO FORMA WORK. SO SOMETIMES NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE DENSITY THAT'S NEEDED MAKES IT TO WHERE YOU'RE OPERATING. PRO FORMA DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO THE LOWER RENTS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES INTO EFFECT FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER.

IS THERE OPERATING PRO FORMA? IT I GET IT, BUT.

HOW DO THEY DETERMINE? HOW MUCH RENT IS GOING TO BE REIMBURSED BY THE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, TO THE DEVELOPER? NO HUD HAS GUIDELINES FOR LOW INCOME AND EXTREMELY LOW INCOME THAT IS STATED BY COUNTY THAT IS REQUIRED WHEN RECEIVING HUD FUNDING.

SO IF A DEVELOPER RECEIVES HUD FUNDING AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AT LOW, THEN THE RENT HAS TO BE AT THAT AMOUNT AND THEY ARE USUALLY REQUIRED FOR THEM TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF EXTREMELY LOW.

AND THEN THE RENT IS BASED ON THE HUD GUIDELINES FOR EXTREMELY LOW RENT.

WELL, DOESN'T LAND COST AND CONSTRUCTION COST AFFECTS THE PERFORMER QUITE A BIT? THAT'S WHERE HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO A DENSER PROJECT CAN HELP A PROJECT BE BECOME OPERATIONALLY SOUND.

LET ME ADD, SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET DENSITY OFF OF HEIGHT AS WELL.

THE ONE OF THE ISSUES YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WITH THIS IS THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD CHANGE YOUR FUTURE IN LAND USE.

SO IF YOU CHANGE THE DENSITY, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT FOR ALL THOSE FUTURE LAND USES.

WHEREAS THAT'S WHY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A TOOL WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AT SPECIFIC PROJECTS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF SETBACKS.

THE PARKING HEIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT YOU REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT A PROJECT BY PROJECT BECAUSE LIKE AGAIN, I SAID, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR FUTURE LAND USE, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT.

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THAT CONVERTS EVERYTHING.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. WHICH I'M FINE WITH IT.

OF COURSE I'M FINE WITH IT BECAUSE I'M COUNSEL, BUT BUT I'M FINE WITH LOOKING AT IT PROJECT BY PROJECT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN PROJECTS WHERE WE LOOKED AT IT AND THIS WASN'T WHAT WE SAW IT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

SO SO I THINK PROJECT BY PROJECT, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY ITEM, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT NOW. I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE AS A BOARD, LOOK AT IT BY PROJECT, BY PROJECT AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL, TWO SETS OF EYES WILL MULTIPLE SETS OF EYES ON IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON DENSITY, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING WITH THIS.

I KNOW ST. PETE HAS BEEN VERY PROGRESSIVE WITH IT, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING THAT.

IS IT A PERCENTAGE OR HOW ARE THEY PROVIDING THAT ADDITIONAL DENSITY IF THEY'RE NOT DOING IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M FINE WITH TAKING NO ACTION NOW, BUT I STILL WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS.

I CONCUR. I THINK, YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THE WAY THAT THE IT'S NOT A POLICY, BUT I'M GOOD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AS FAR AS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, GOING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ULTIMATE APPROVAL. BUT I AGREE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.

AND MAYBE AS WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THESE, THERE'LL BE A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES THAT WE WANT TO BE SURE THEY CAN COME AND JUST DO ONE PRESENTATION AND TALK TO US FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, HOW THESE THINGS AFFECT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND I ALSO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE HOMELESS BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION HAS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AND SEVERAL OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE HERE TODAY THAT MAYBE WE COULD REQUEST AS A AS A BOARD THAT THEY DO THE RESEARCH ON WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHER CITIES IN CONJUNCTION WITH.

I'M SORRY, I JUST. NANCY, NANCY AND MAYBE THE COMMITTEE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND PROVIDE US WITH A PRESENTATION ON THESE POINTS AS WELL.

HERE. I'M FINE WITH WHEREVER THE INFORMATION COMES FROM.

I KNOW THE CITY DOES, PLANNING, ZONING BOARD DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THERE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS RIGHT AT HAND, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO WHAT'S THE BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTY AS WELL AS HERE IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.

SO I'M OK WITH.

AND WE CAN REQUEST THAT INFORMATION FROM THE BOVARD HOMELESS COALITION, HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY, SO I CAN'T COMPEL THEM TO GIVE US ANYTHING, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY REACH OUT TO THEM.

IF. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION CURRENTLY FOR THE ALLOWANCE TO THE FLEXIBILITY AND DENSITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WITH THE INTENT OF GATHERING MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF AND HAVING STAFF WORK WITH NON-PROFITS ON GATHERING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ANY NAME.

AND MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

OUR INCENTIVE NUMBER FOR THE CREATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

CAPACITY FOR HOUSING, FOR VERY LOW INCOME PERSON, LOW INCOME PERSONS AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. OK, SO THIS PRESERVATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE ACTUALLY SPEAKS TO THE AVAILABILITY OF THE WATER RESERVATION.

AND IN SOME JURISDICTIONS, WATER SUPPLY IS AN ISSUE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW WITH, NOR DO WE FORESEE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH WATER AVAILABILITY IN THE FUTURE.

SO WHEN THE BOARD DISCUSSED THIS BACK IN 2017, THEY VOTED TO TAKE NO ACTION AGAINST THIS.

THE ECONOMY DOES NOT CHARGE CAPACITY, RESERVATION FEES.

NO, NO, IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT FEES, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT IF WE ARE TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THE. THE REASON IS THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH GOING ON IN A JURISDICTION THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAPPED OUT OR CLOSE TO TAPPING OUT WITH HOW MUCH WATER THEY CAN PROVIDE TO THEIR RESIDENTS, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO RESERVE SOME OF THAT GROWTH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OK.

THE CITY IS NOT IN THAT POSITION WHERE WE'RE STRAPPED FOR THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE CAN PROVIDE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, OR AT LEAST AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION FOR THE RESERVATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, CAPACITY FOR HOUSING, FOR VERY LOW INCOME PERSONS, LOW INCOME PERSONS AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, I.

THAT MOTION PASSES, MOVING ON TO INCENTIVE NUMBER FIVE, THE ALLOWANCE OF AFFORDABLE ACCESSORY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

OK, SO THIS SPEAKS TO THE SO THE CITY ACTUALLY CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS TO SET THEIR OTHER THAN THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH SETS THEIR OWN RULES.

SO THIS IS CURRENTLY SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ALREADY DOES AND THERE ARE.

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CONDITION PERMITTING CONDITIONS THAT ALLOW FOR AFFORDABLE ACCESS FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING.

ACTION. MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION AGAINST THE ALLOWANCE OF PORTABLE ACCESSORY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

SECOND. OR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. THAT MOTION PASSES ON TO NUMBER SIX, THE REDUCTION OF PARKING AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YES, SO THIS KIND OF HEARD THE WAR TALK ABOUT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, AND THE CITY ALREADY HAS A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR THIS THROUGH ITS VARIANCE PROCESS.

BUT AS NANCY WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THIS, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT AS A BLANKET.

THERE ALREADY IS A PROCESS IN PLACE IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE IT OR REQUEST LESSER SETBACKS OR MORE MORE SETBACKS, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

SURE. SURE.

BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO.

AND THE BOARD HAD CONSIDERED DOING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE DENSITY.

WHICH WAS NUMBER THREE, WHERE WE TAKE NO ACTION, BUT WE CAN STILL ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEING THAT THIS WAS IN 2017.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP.

AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED. THE CITY'S CHANGED.

SO I THINK TAKING NO ACTION ON THIS FOR NOW IS GOOD, BUT STILL REQUESTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO GOING FORWARD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUESTS FOR APPLICATION THAT FLORIDA HOUSING PUTS OUT.

AND SOME ARE GEARED TOWARDS HOMELESSNESS, WHERE YOU WOULDN'T NEED A PARKING SPACE PER UNIT AND YOU DEFINITELY WOULDN'T NEED THOSE PARKING SPACES.

SO I WOULD AGREE THAT I'D LIKE TO.

GATHER MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

I AGREE WITH THE BOARD ON THAT IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE RECENTLY, WE'VE MADE A CHANGE TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIES WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWING CARPORTS AS OPPOSED TO SINGLE CAR GARAGES, WHICH WAS A REQUIREMENT PREVIOUSLY.

AND THAT WAS TO TRY TO GIVE THAT EXTRA SPACE AND MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR DEVELOPERS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GARAGE REQUIREMENT HERE IS IN PALM BAY, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT OVER THERE.

SO YES, I'M IN AGREEMENT.

THIS ONE IS OK TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT TO GATHER SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

WHEN I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION WITH THE REDUCTION OF PARKING AND SET SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WITH THE INTENT TO GATHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF THAT.

ON THE FLOOR IN A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, I OPPOSED.

OH, IN THAT MOTION CARRIES, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO INCENTIVE NUMBER SEVEN, THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBLE LOCK CONFIGURATIONS, INCLUDING ZERO LOT LINE CONFIGURATIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OK, SO THE CITY, THROUGH ITS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, DOESN'T HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT AND THERE IS THERE CURRENTLY ALREADY IS THE AVAILABILITY OF A ZERO LOT LINE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THERE'S NO SPECIFIC PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR ZERO LOT LINES.

IT'S A IT'S NOT OFTEN USED, BUT IT IS AVAILABLE.

SO THE CITY ALREADY DOES ALREADY MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT.

I ONE. EMOTIONS DON'T GO AHEAD.

OH, MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBLE LOCK CONFIGURATIONS, INCLUDING ZERO LOT LINE CONFIGURATIONS OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THEN THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I BUY THAT MOTION CARRIES, SO WE MOVE ON TO INCENTIVE NUMBER EIGHT, THE MODIFICATION OF ST REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

OK, SO THE CITY DOES HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO REQUEST A WAIVER FOR THE WIDTH OF THE STREET. HOWEVER, KNOWING THAT THE REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE STREET WILL REDUCE THE OVERALL COST OF THE ROADWAY.

CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THIS WAIVER, BUT IT'S AS FAR AS I'M AWARE AND BASED ON WHAT I COULD SEE, THIS IS THEIR ONLY BEEN REQUESTED ONE TIME.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE PUBLIC STREETS HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN WIDTH REQUIREMENTS TO CONFORM WITH FDOT, AS WELL AS AND I'M KIND OF SPEAKING FOR MY FIRE EXPERIENCE, AND NANCY REMINDED ME OF THIS.

WHATEVER THE CITY'S LARGEST FIRE TRUCK IS, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT RADIUS IN MIND AS FAR AS TURNING IS CONCERNED. SO THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO AS FAR AS REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE STREET.

I REMEMBER WHEN THE BOARD DISCUSSED.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AM, SO IT SHOULD BE A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

YES, THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE, BUT YOU CAN ONLY REDUCE THE WIDTH OF THE STREETS SO MUCH THAT'S GOING TO BE ALLOWED, I WON'T PASS FIRE WON'T PASS UP.

YEAH. ME PERSONALLY, I'M NOT LOOKING TO REDUCE IT AT ALL, BUT I'M FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD. SO. I CAN JUST COUNT ON MY OWN VOTE, BUT SO BUT YEAH, HOWEVER, BOARD THE BOARD

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WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD, SO I CONCUR WITH THAT.

I. THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD ONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

NEED THOSE FIRE TRUCKS TO GET THERE? YEAH, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THE MODIFICATION OF ST REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AGAIN IN A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE.

MOST OF THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO INCENTIVE NUMBER NINE, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROCESS BY WHICH A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS BEFORE ADOPTION POLICIES, PROCEDURES, ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS OR PLAN PROVISIONS THAT INCREASE THE COST OF HOUSING.

OH OH, SORRY.

NUMBER 11, NINE AND 10.

NUMBER 11 THE SUPPORT OF DEVELOPMENT NEAR TRANSPORTATION HUBS AND MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

I REMEMBER THAT ONE IS. YES, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ONE WHERE YOU REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN THE CITY CAME BACK AS THERE REALLY ARE NO TRANSPORTATION HUBS ARE MAJOR.

THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY APPLICABLE RIGHT NOW TO THE CITY BASED ON THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT TAKING ANY ACTION AT THIS TIME IF SOMETHING CHANGES WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM OR MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

FROM NOW UNTIL NOVEMBER, YOU HAVE YOU CAN REEVALUATE THIS AT THAT TIME, I IT'S JUST DON'T SEE THERE BEING A WHOLE LOT OF REASON TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR TAKE ANY ACTION AGAINST IT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE UNIT WILL TAKE NO ACTION ON THE SUPPORT OF DEVELOPMENT NEAR TRANSPORTATION HUBS, MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. I CAN'T.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR THAT MOTION PASSES, SO WE'RE MOVING ON NOW.

MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

SO I HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON HOUSE BILL ONE THREE THREE NINE AND HAVE SPOKEN WITH OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS.

ONE OF THE THINGS BROUGHT UP IN HOUSE BILL ONE THREE THREE NINE IS THE ALLOWABLE ABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.

AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, AND THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT THEY BRING UP WHEN WE DISCUSS HOUSE BILL ONE THREE THREE NINE AS A WAY TO COME INTO A COMMUNITY.

I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY ZONED PROPERLY, AND THE REZONING PROCESS IS EXTREMELY LENGTHY AND EXPENSIVE.

AND THE AVAILABILITY, EVEN IF IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE LIKE WE HAVE DISCUSSED ON OTHER POINTS, THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY TO TAKE THOSE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MAKES SENSE.

THE HOUSE BILL WAS NOT SET UP TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING WHERE THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE OR THERE MAY BE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

THAT WASN'T THE SPIRIT OF THE BILL.

THE SPIRIT OF THE BILL WAS THAT IF IT MAKES SENSE, THEN THE CITY SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROVE THAT.

I KNOW WE HAVE A PROJECT CURRENTLY IN MELBOURNE THAT IT ABSOLUTELY MAKES SENSE.

AND IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO REFERENCE HOUSE BILL ONE THREE THREE NINE IN THAT CITY, IF THEY HAD THIS AS AN AVAILABILITY, WE WOULD ALREADY BE BUILDING IN THAT CITY.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS AND CAN SAID DO ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

AND GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

FUNDING REQUESTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT FOR THE SCHIP PROGRAM.

SO I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF.

AS FOR THIS AND.

ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THIS, JENNIFER COCKCROFT, OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, HAS TO MAKE THE. YES, THANK YOU.

EVENING, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD IS A DECISION MAKING COMMITTEE WHEN HEARING ITEMS, YOU MUST APPLY.

YOU CAN DO THE MICROPHONE, JENNIFER, YOU'RE NOT HEARING ME ON.

YEAH, SORRY, I'M GETTING OVER AN ILLNESS.

CERTAIN BOARD PROCEEDINGS WILL APPLY, THESE APPLY TO ALL PUBLIC DECISION MAKING COMMITTEES. YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THESE PROCEDURES, BUT EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE MAY NOT BE AN INDIVIDUAL.

ADDRESSING THE BOARD MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT YOU FILLED OUT A CARD.

I'M NOT SURE YOU'LL HAVE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

ALL BOARD MEMBERS MUST BE ABLE TO HEAR THE MATTER AND BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.

IF YOU HAD AN EX PARTE COMMUNICATION OR SITE VISIT OR FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE MATTER,

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THAT SHOULD BE DISCLOSED BEFORE HEARING THE ITEM AND YOU WOULD FILL OUT A FORM IF YOU HAVE TO RECUSE, SORRY, RECUSE YOURSELF OR ABSTAINED FROM THE MATTER.

THE ONLY LEGAL WAY TO ABSTAIN FROM A MATTER AND A VOTE IN WHICH YOU ARE PRESENT IS A FINANCIAL PECUNIARY INTEREST, SPECIAL AND UNIQUE TO YOU.

OR YOU CAN'T BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL BECAUSE YOU ARE SO BIASED AGAINST THE MATTER AND THERE IS A FORUM YOU MUST FILL OUT AND PUT ON FILE WITH THE CLERK, SANDRA, I GUESS.

SO. I THINK THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY.

SO BEFORE ANY MATTER IN WHICH YOU HAVE AN INTEREST OR CAN'T BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL LIKE YOU WERE ABOUT TO, I ASSUME, BUT THAT IN THE RECORD, PLEASE DISCLOSE THE DETAILS AND THEN PUT THAT FILE ON FORM.

SORRY. FORM ON FILE.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

I NEED TO RECLUSE MYSELF, I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA OF FLORIDA WHO IS MAKING THEIR REQUESTS FOR THE FUNDING.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, SO DECEMBER 30TH, WE THE CITY RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR VOLUNTARY SUPPORT FOR A HUNDRED ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE SPACE COAST COMMON SPECIAL NEEDS, LOW INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

IT ACTUALLY NEEDS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, ACCORDING TO OUR SHIP.

L HAVE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN.

THE MAXIMUM AWARD ALLOWED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS ONLY ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THEREFORE, VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA WILL HAVE TO GO TO BREVARD COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO SEEK OUT THE FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO IT'S A THIRTY. I'M I'M NOT GOING TO READ.

I'LL ACTUALLY LET A REPRESENTATIVE FROM VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA SPEAK TO THEIR REQUEST.

I HAVE THREE SPEAKER CARDS.

YOU WOULD DO THOSE NOW OR AFTER.

PRESENTATION FIRST.

OK.

HELLO, FORD, MY NAME IS KARA BAIRD, AND THIS IS MY COWORKER, MICHELE CLAIR.

WE WORK FOR VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA OF FLORIDA, AND WE ARE REQUESTING ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR AN APPROACH AND A PROPOSED AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN PALM BAY.

THIS WILL WE WILL BE APPLYING FOR THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, RFA TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH ONE OH TWO.

THIS WILL INCLUDE 80 PERCENT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR PERSONS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND AT LEAST 20 PERCENT OF THE UNITS FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THAT MEET THE DEFINITION OF HOMELESS HOUSEHOLDS.

WE WILL ALSO BE PARTNERING WITH READY FOR LIFE THAT WILL HELP HOUSE YOUTH AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE HOUSING FOR LOW TO EXTREMELY LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AND WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF BREVARD COUNTY, WHO HAS COMMITTED TO PROJECT BASED VOUCHER.

ALL 30 UNITS.

THIS MEANS THAT WE CAN TAKE IN THE MOST VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, INCLUDING FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS WITH ZERO INCOME.

WE WILL BE DOING 20 FOR ONE BEDROOM UNITS, ONE BEDROOM UNITS IN BREVARD COUNTY ARE CURRENTLY AT THE HIGHEST NEED BASED ON OUR RESEARCH WITH THE COUNTY BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

WE WILL BE DOING SIX TWO BEDROOM UNITS AS WELL.

OUR TENANT SELECTION PLAN WILL WORK TO ACTIVELY SCREEN IN POTENTIAL CLIENTS INSTEAD OF WHAT WE ARE USED TO AROUND PALM BAY AS A SCREEN OUT PROCESS.

SO THERE ARE UNITS IN PALM BAY THAT ARE AFFORDABLE.

HOWEVER, THEIR PROCESS IS TYPICALLY A SCREEN OUT PROCESS, AND APPLICANTS ARE TREATED AS A PIECE OF PAPER BLACK AND WHITE PIECE OF PAPER THAT GOES TO A COMPUTER THAT GIVES YOU A DECISION. WE WORK INDIVIDUALLY WITH OUR CLIENTS AND ACTIVELY WORK TO SCREEN THEM IN.

WE HAVE BEEN IN BREVARD COUNTY SINCE FOR 15 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME MEMBER OF THE BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION, WHO IS HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.

MICHELLE AND I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE PALM BAY HOMELESS TASK FORCE SINCE IT STARTED AND HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN PALM BAY, DOING OUTREACH AND PROVIDING HOUSING SOLUTIONS FOR PALM BAY RESIDENTS SLEEPING OUTDOORS.

WE BOTH ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND HAVE WORKED ACTIVELY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS WITH A GOAL TO DEVELOP HERE IN BROWARD COUNTY, BUT SPECIFICALLY IN PALM

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BAY. TYPEKIT VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, HER PRIDES ITSELF ON PROVIDING INTENSE SUPPORT SERVICES WITH A RESULT DRIVEN BASIS WHILE KEEPING OUR CLIENTS AT THE CENTER OF THE FOCUS.

THIS IS THE PIECE THAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU IN THE PAST.

IT IS THE KEY POINT THAT HELPS OUR TENANTS BECOME ACTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE, SUCCESSFUL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

I'M GOING TO LET MICHELLE TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOSE INTENT SERVICES.

HELLO, HOW ARE YOU GUYS? ALL RIGHT. OUR SERVICES INCLUDE SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH AND OUTPATIENT, SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY BRING PEOPLE TO THEM.

THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO OUT.

ALSO TRAINING, EDUCATION AND EMPLOYMENT.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 15 YEARS IN BREVARD COUNTY WITH OUR VETERANS PROGRAM, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITHIN.

THE CIVILIAN POPULATION, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS NEEDED, FILL THE GAPS.

WE BELIEVE IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND SO WE ARE HAVE ALREADY BUILT RELATIONSHIPS WITH CAREER SOURCE WITH VOC REHAB TO BRING THOSE IN TO HELP OUR CLIENTS MOVE FORWARD. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE HAVE THEM HAVE THE SKILLS TO BE INDEPENDENT AND SELF-SUFFICIENT.

ANY QUESTIONS? SURE. THESE ARE LONG TERM HOUSING.

YES. OK.

YES, IT CAN BE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.

BUT YES, THE GOAL WOULD BE IS BECAUSE THEIR PROJECT BASED, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO INCOME QUALIFY EVERY YEAR.

OK, SO EVERY YEAR IT'S. AND DOES IT GO TO THE SIMILAR PROCESS, YOUR SECURITY DEPOSIT, IF THEY CAN AFFORD IT? WE PARTNER WITH AGENCIES AS WELL AS THE BOVARD HOMELESS COALITION TO HELP WITH SECURITY DEPOSITS. BUT YES, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING KIND OF PROCESS.

THEY WOULD HAVE MOVING COSTS AS WELL.

YOU BE WOULD YOU ALSO BE WORKING WITH ANY PSYCHOLOGICAL PSYCHIATRIST IN ORDER TO ASSIST ANYBODY THAT MIGHT HAVE SAY, LIKE A MENTAL HEALTH BREAKDOWN AT RANDOM OR SOMEONE THAT MIGHT SUFFER FROM SCHIZOPHRENIA MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A JOB, BUT IS ALSO EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS? SO ONE OF THE THINGS GOOD ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR ON STAFF WHO DOES CRISIS INTERVENTION.

SURE. THE OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH VERY MUCH.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS WE HAVE.

MARK SEATON. THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY DREW WARREN.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK SEXTON, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS AT FAMILY PROMISE, A BOVARD, WHERE A LOCAL NONPROFIT THAT WORKS WITH FAMILIES AT RISK OR CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

I WANTED TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS JUST GIVEN.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE SINGLE LARGEST BARRIER THAT IS KEEPING FAMILIES FROM RETURNING INTO HOUSING. WE JUST FINISHED OUR NUMBERS FOR TWENTY TWENTY.

AND WE FOUND THAT OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE HELP FOR HOMELESS PREVENTION.

TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT OF THEM CURRENTLY EITHER LIVE IN PUBLIC HOUSING WITH SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER OR WITH ANOTHER ONGOING SUBSIDY.

AND FOR OUR FAMILIES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING LONG TERM CASE MANAGEMENT IN THEIR HOME AFTER THEY EXIT HOMELESSNESS.

THIRTY FOUR PERCENT OF THEM ARE HAVING TO FIND THAT KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS SO LACKING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANKS, WE HAVE TO WARN, AND THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY TARA.

OF THAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS DREW WARREN.

I LIVE AT 16 15 GARDEN, 10 STREET IN PALM BAY, SO I AM A PALM BAY RESIDENT.

I AM ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY OF HOPE, AN AGENCY THAT DOES HOUSING FOR HOMELESS FAMILIES.

WE ALSO PARTNER WITH READY FOR LIFE, WHICH IS IN A PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER SHELTER FOR THEIR TRANSITION AGED YOUTH, THEY'RE 18 TO TWENTY FOUR YEAR OLD KIDS WHO OFTENTIMES HAVE COME OUT OF FOSTER CARE BUT ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE COME OUT OF BROKEN HOMES.

AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THAT GROUP HAS IN PARTICULAR IS FINDING A PERMANENT

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SOLUTION. WE CAN SHELTER AND WE CAN GIVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, BUT FOR THAT PARTICULAR GROUP, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO FIND THEM PERMANENT HOUSING.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM THE ON THE BOARD OF THE HOMELESS COALITION SUPPORT HOMELESS COALITION.

I AM THE CHAIR OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE OF THE HOMELESS COALITION AT THIS POINT, AND THERE IS NO OTHER AGENCY THAT I CAN SPEAK OF THAT DOES A BETTER JOB OF BRINGING IN THE RESOURCES OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE NETWORK OF PROVIDERS TO DO HOUSING AND VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA.

WE ALL WORK TOGETHER VERY WELL.

THERE'S NOT AN AGENCY IN IN IN THE COALITION THAT DOESN'T WORK WELL WITH EACH OTHER.

THE VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA IS EXEMPLARY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY SUPPORT THEM IN THIS EFFORT.

GARETH [INAUDIBLE] HIGH, [INAUDIBLE], 12 11 BARRED LANE NORTHEAST AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA FLORIDA.

I'VE BEEN WORKING IN HOMELESS SERVICES FOR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS NOW.

I'VE BEEN A CASE MANAGER.

I'VE WORKED WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

I DON'T WORK WITH AN AGENCY RIGHT NOW.

CURRENTLY I FREELANCE.

I WORK KIND OF COLLABORATIVELY WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES, AND I HAVE WORKED WITH VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA PRETTY CLOSELY.

I'VE WORKED WITH MICHELLE AND KYRA BOTH QUITE A BIT.

I'VE ALSO HAD THE PLEASURE OF SEEING A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE AND MELBOURNE AND COCO AND ALSO ACROSS THE STATE.

I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING AND BEING AT A GROUNDBREAKING THAT THEY HAD OVER IN ST.

PETERSBURG. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING OVER THERE IS GOING TO BE REALLY FANTASTIC.

I THINK HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR OUR CITY. I STARTED IT AS A CASE MANAGER HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND I SEE THE NEED THAT THERE IS. I SEE HOW MUCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NEEDED, AND I KNOW THAT THE SERVICES THAT COULD BE PROVIDED RIGHT ON SITE AND IN THAT AREA IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S A DROUGHT THERE. THERE ARE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED AND WHAT THEY COULD DO.

THAT AGENCY IN PARTICULAR, THE WAY THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO BRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT THEY COULD DO WITH THE HELP OF ALL OF THE OTHER AGENCIES, THE PHC AND THE PARTNERS THAT WOULD COME TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T FIND IN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES AND NOW SEEING THAT AROUND THE STATE.

I KNOW THAT VOA COULD DO THAT.

SO I THINK THE THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS IN A POSITION THAT THEY COULD SUPPORT THAT.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT THEM AND BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THANK YOU. AND BACK TO THE BOARD.

HUH. WELL, FOR ME, I WOULD LOVE TO I'M FULL SUPPORT OF THIS, ANY ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO I AM GOING TO PUT A MOTION TO APPROVE A FUNDING REQUEST FOR OR THE VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA PROJECT A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, SO I HATE I HATE TO MAKE IT AWKWARD OR BE THAT GUY.

FIRST OFF, MA'AM, I APPRECIATE YOU FROM RECUSING YOURSELF FROM THE FROM THE DAIS.

MY WHOLE THING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ANY OTHER WAY TO SAY IT.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE OPTICS OF IT.

LIKE, LET ME PULL IT UP.

SORRY, I'M RAMBLING, BUT YOU KNOW, THE MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED TO HAVE A FOR PROFIT PROVIDER REQUIRED TO HAVE A NONPROFIT PROVIDER, AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY, LOW INCOME PERSONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT JUST THE OPTICS OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY IT.

SO THE OPTICS OF IT, WHERE WE GO FROM, WE'RE BUILDING ON THIS AND THAT, AND WE HAVE THIS MISCARRIAGE UP HERE AND THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL NONPROFITS.

OK, YEAH.

THERE. TO HELP OUT WITH THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY, IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, IMPARTIAL.

AND I BELIEVE SHE'S AN EMPLOYEE OF THE ORGANIZATION AND IT IS A NOT FOR PROFIT, RIGHT? OR SO SHE'S ALLOWED.

I'M JUST LOOKING, YEAH, AND I'M SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION.

BUT LEGALLY, I WANTED TO STEP IN JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE JUST TO PREVENT ANY POSSIBLE. I'M NOT SAYING SHE DID ANYTHING WRONG.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS ON THE, YOU KNOW, SUPREME UP AND UP AND HIGHLY, YOU KNOW, ABOVE REPROACH RATHER THAN BE QUESTIONED.

SO MY APOLOGIES IF I CAUSED ANY DISTRACTION, BUT I'D RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY, WHICH I TOLD HER. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I, YOU KNOW, EMBARRASS YOU OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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NO, NO. BUT I THINK YOU ACTUALLY, I DON'T SAY SAVED, BUT YOU DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE IN DOING SO, AND I'M JUST VOICING MY OPINION ON IT.

THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST YOU, MA'AM.

I JUST. LIKE I SAID, I SERVED ON THE COUNCIL, SO WE KNOW ABOUT OPTICS AND PERCEPTIONS AND EVERYTHING, AND YOU KNOW HOW THINGS CAN LOOK.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE DONE CLEANER IN THE FUTURE.

I'M SUPPORT THIS. I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I'M JUST I'M JUST I GOT TO VENT.

I GOT TO TALK ABOUT IT. I GOT TO MAKE IT AND MAKE IT CLEAR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS OR IF IT'S JUST THINGS HAPPEN SOMETIMES.

AND I JUST WAS LEGALLY JUST TRY TO STEP IN WHEN WE WHEN WE CAN.

AND YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE I HATE TO MAKE IT UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT I JUST HAD TO.

I HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST.

SO, OH, SO MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU SAYING THAT BECAUSE SHE DID THE PRESENTATION, THAT WAS THE OPTICS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, SO OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE LIKE 10 NONPROFITS HERE OR HOWEVER MANY, AND THEY JUST SAW, YOU KNOW, THIS MISCARRIAGE GO FROM LIKE YOU EXPLAINED IT AND YOU EXPLAINED IT ELOQUENTLY.

BUT STILL, I KNOW ME, YOU KNOW, IN THE AUDIENCE, I'M LIKE, WAIT.

I'M GOING BE LOOKING AROUND OR I'M KIND OF BE LIKE, OH, I COULD JUST SERVE ON THE BOARD AND APPROVE OR, YOU KNOW? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

OK. IT WAS JUST A LITTLE AWKWARD.

YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M NOT SAYING.

IT'S WRONG, MA'AM. YEAH, IT'S JUST YOU DID A GREAT JOB IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE FROM.

I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, IF THEY EVER COME AGAIN FOR FUNDING, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE IS LIKE, YEAH, OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, I THINK I AGREE WITH THAT, TOO.

I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE HER ACTUALLY DOING THE PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, I CAN SAY UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT MADE NO DECISION IN MY DECISION, WHETHER OR NOT YOU DID IT OR NOT LOOKING AT WHAT IS HERE AND WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO THAT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH HER IN PARTICULAR.

I CONCUR. IT DIDN'T AFFECT MY DECISION.

ALL I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SANDRA.

IT DOES MENTION IN THE MEMO THAT THIS IS FROM AN ALLOCATION THAT'S STILL YET TO BE RECEIVED FROM FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO WHEN WHEN WOULD THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVE THIS, THEN? IS THAT GOING TO HOLD THEM UP? NO. BASED ON WHEN THEY ANTICIPATE TO START CONSTRUCTION, WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THOSE FUNDS IN PLACE, BUT IT'S THE ONLY.

THAT'S THE EARLIEST FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THEM.

OK. THAT'S THE ONE IN MARCH, RIGHT, MARCH 20.

OH, THE. WELL, THE APPLICATION IS DUE MARCH OF THIS YEAR, BUT OK, NO NOTICE.

AND WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION ON THAT ONE.

YOU ALREADY YOU ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

OH, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

OK. MY FIRST TIME, GUYS.

BEAR WITH ME. OK, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, I AGREE ANY OPPOSED.

MOST OF THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CDBG, CV AND CV, THREE REQUESTS FOR CONTRACT EXTENSIONS. YES.

SO BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE THE HOLIDAY SEASON, BACK IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WE ACTUALLY ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD GET WORKWISE FOR CONTRACT EXTENSIONS DUE TO THE SLOW SPENDING DUE TO A LOT OF ISSUES DUE TO ISSUES OUTSIDE OF THE AGENCY'S CONTROL.

SO WE ACTUALLY I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO OUR HUD TO SEE IF THAT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE.

TYPICALLY, WITH OUR PUBLIC SERVICE CONTRACTS, THEY ARE THROUGH OUR ENTITLEMENT CDBG FUNDING THAT OPERATES FROM OCTOBER TO SEPTEMBER AND THERE ARE NO EXTENSION REQUESTS.

ONCE YOU DO A PUBLIC SERVICE, YOU YOU HAVE 15 PERCENT OF YOUR ALLOCATION FOR CDBG TO USE DURING THAT YEAR.

AND IF YOU DON'T USE IT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, YOU LOSE IT TO USE FOR PUBLIC SERVICES AND THEN IT THEREFORE HAS TO GO TO A NONPUBLIC SERVICE PROJECT AT A FUTURE DATE.

CDBG, CV AND CV THREE ARE UNIQUE WHERE THERE IS NO CAP FOR THAT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, AND THEREFORE WE HAVE MORE TIME TO SPEND IT OUTSIDE OF IT.

HUD HAS STATED, THOUGH, IN WRITING THAT ANY POSSIBLE EXTENSIONS THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

SO ONCE I STARTED DOING THE ON SITE MONITORING AND SOME OF THE AGENCIES HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THAT.

WE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THE CBG, CV AND CV THREE AGENCIES AND REQUESTED A LIST OF INFORMATION VERY SIMPLE ITEMS, BUT THAT YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR STAFF SUMMARY FROM THEM SO THAT WE COULD EVALUATE IT AND THEN BRING IT FORTH TO YOU.

IT WILL TRIGGER A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF THE TIME FRAME.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU.

WE ALSO DID LET THE AGENCIES KNOW THAT THEY HAD TO BE PRESENT IN ORDER.

IN CASE YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF AGENCIES DUE TO COVID THAT THEY AREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, SO WE WE

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DIDN'T WANT THEM TO COME.

I'LL TRY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN BASED ON WHERE THOSE AGENCIES ARE.

UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY YOU RECOMMEND FOR US? DO YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE OR.

UM, I WOULD SAY IF YOU HAVE ANY, IF THERE'S ANY BASED ON THE SUMMARY THAT YOU HAVE IN THE SUMMARY, FOR THOSE OF YOU THERE, THERE IS JUST ALL THE AGENCIES, ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION THAT I REQUESTED JUST PUT INTO A A STANDARDIZED FORM FOR THE BOARD TO LOOK AT.

BUT IF I FOR SOME OF THEM, I WOULD LIKE MORE CLARIFICATION AS TO HOW THEY EXPECT TO USE THE FUNDS OR SOME OF THEIR REASONS FOR IT.

SO I WOULD ACTUALLY GO BUY A CASE BY CASE, GO ONE BY ONE AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT.

AND THEN IF THE AGENCY IS PRESENT, BRING THEM FORWARD.

OR IF NOT, I CAN TRY AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

OK. IN CENTRAL FLORIDA CHILD HEALTH PROGRAM, DID THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? REAL FAST HERE, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO OR ACTUALLY A STATEMENT AND A QUESTION TO SANDRA? WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM AS FAR AS AN EXTENSION? AND ARE THE NONPROFITS AWARE OF EXACTLY HOW MUCH TIME PRIOR TO THEM COMING FORWARD AND SPEAKING IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. SO WE GAVE ALL THE AGENCIES A MAXIMUM OF AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS FROM THE END OF THEIR CONTRACT. SO THAT WOULD SO A REQUEST COULD NOT EXCEED SIX MONTHS.

AND THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SPEND ALL OF OUR FUNDS IN A TIMELY MANNER TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH WITH HUD.

AND THEN IF THEY AREN'T ABLE TO EXPEND ALL OF THEIR FUNDS IN AN 18 MONTH PERIOD, THEN WE WOULD JUST REALLOCATE THOSE THROUGH ANOTHER FUNDING PROCESS.

THANK YOU. ERIC? UM, AH, AFTER DISCUSSING THE TIME FRAME WITH ALL THE AGENCIES, IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT TO EXTEND IT TO SIX MONTHS AND THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THEY THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE NOT EVERY AGENCY REQUESTED AN EXTENSION OR NEEDED AN EXTENSION.

I'M TALKING THE ONES WHO DID WELL, THEY HAD A CHANCE.

YOU HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THEY ANY AGENCY WHO WANTED SIX MONTHS GOT SIX MONTHS.

STAFF WERE NOT. I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING BEYOND SIX MONTHS WITH AN AGENCY.

I FEEL THAT IF AN AGENCY CANNOT EXPEND THE THE FUNDS IN AN 18 MONTH PERIOD, WHICH IS SIX MONTHS MORE THAN A STANDARD PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCY CONTRACT IS THEN THAT COULD POTENTIALLY PUT THE THE CITY IN JEOPARDY OF NOT BEING ABLE TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE ON FROM THAT.

AND SUPPORT FLORIDA CHILD HEALTH PROGRAM, DID THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT REQUEST? A.

THIS IS ONE OF THE AGENCIES THAT WASN'T ABLE TO BE PRESENT TONIGHT.

YEAH, BUT I DO SEE THAT STAFF NEEDS MORE DETAILS ON HOW THE AGENCY PLANS TO SPEND FIFTY EIGHT PERCENT OF THE REMAINING FUN AND HALF THE TIME IT SPENT ONLY 42.

SO THAT TO ME IS THE CONCERN RIGHT THERE, AND THEY'RE NOT HERE TO REPRESENT THEMSELVES.

SO I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IF AN AGENCY ISN'T HERE AND THEY HAVE THAT AND THAT IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT I DO HAVE, AND THIS ISN'T THE ONLY AGENCY I WOULD REQUEST THAT IF YOU.

AND MAKE IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM BEING CONTINGENT UPON STAFF GETTING SATISFACTORY INFORMATION THAT THEY FEEL THAT AND THEN JUST.

GIVE ME THE THE CONFIDENCE THAT TO MAKE THAT DECISION, SINCE THEY'RE NOT HERE TO ANSWER.

DO THEY KNOW ABOUT THIS MEETING? THEY DO, BUT THEY HAVE.

THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE DUE TO COVID.

SO THEY ARE SHE SAID THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAID SHE MAY BE AVAILABLE VIA PHONE, BUT ONE OF THEIR THEY'RE A VERY SMALL AGENCY.

ONE OF THEIR MEMBERS IS IN THE HOSPITAL, SO IT'S OK.

SO JUST A SUGGESTION, COULD WE COULD WE TABLE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING OR DO THEY NEED TO ACT ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE RIGHT NOW TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS? THAT'S A THAT'S A VALID QUESTION.

UM, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THAT CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF MARCH, WE MAY NOT GET HUD APPROVAL IN THAT TIME.

SO IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE OR CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, CONTINGENT UPON UPON STAFF GETTING SATISFACTORY INFORMATION AND FEELING CONFIDENT THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO EXTEND IT, THEN I'M WILLING TO GIVE THEM THAT.

SO, SO BASICALLY SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MOVE, MOVE FORWARD WITH INTENT THAT YOU'LL DECIDE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOUR CHECKS AND BALANCES ON IT.

SO IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA, THEN OK, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

OK, THANK YOU. IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, DID THEY EVER EXPRESS HOW THEY PLAN TO?

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SERVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE NEXT.

I MEAN, THEY PLAN ON DOING MORE RECRUITING AND MORE OUTREACH.

THEY WANT TO DO. THEY WANT TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL ITEMS THAT THEY FEEL THAT WOULD HELP EACH INDIVIDUAL FAMILY.

THEY ANTICIPATE SERVING MORE FAMILIES.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHEN I DID THEIR ON SITE MONITORING IS THE SALARY THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING. IS FAIRLY LOW, AND THEY FEEL THAT THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY AREN'T ABLE TO GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SERVE THOSE FAMILIES, THEY FEEL THAT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT SALARY, THEY WILL SPEND MORE OF THE FUNDS BUT GET SOMEBODY MORE QUALIFIED TO BE ABLE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE AND THEN USE THAT PERSON MORE.

THEIR STAFF PERSONS ARE THEY HAVE A PART TIME PERSON AND THEN THEY HAVE A FULL TIME PERSON. BUT THAT FULL TIME PERSON IS ONLY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THESE FAMILIES.

SO IF THEY'RE ABLE TO SEE MORE FAMILIES AND THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH THIS, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THAT PERSON MORE AND HELP MORE PEOPLE IN SIX MONTHS.

THEY'RE GOING TO RECRUIT AND HIRE AND BRING ON BOARD A PERSON.

SERVE MORE FAMILIES, PLUS EXPAND.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON HIRING AN ADDITIONAL PERSON, I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON INCREASING THAT PERSON'S CURRENT SALARY TO RETAIN THEM AND SERVE MORE PEOPLE.

BUT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD NEED SOME MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WHICH.

I CAN'T GET RIGHT NOW. NO, NO, THAT'S OK.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION HERE.

SO IS IT THEN BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE TO VERIFY AND WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE, IS IT THEN EASIER OR QUICKER FOR US TO KIND OF GO THROUGH JUST GIVING A BLANKET? YES, WE'LL DO A SIX MONTH EXTENSION WITH STAFF GIVEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE AGENCIES AND THEN IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE FUNDS, THEN WE ALLOCATE WE REALLOCATE THIS BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST MAKE IT EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE STAFF THE GO AHEAD.

I WOULD DO IT ON A CASE BY CASE BECAUSE OTHER AGENCIES MAY BE ABLE TO ELABORATE AND GIVE YOU A BETTER INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD AT THAT MOMENT.

LIKE I SAID, THAT'S JUST MY RECOMMENDATION, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

I JUST IF WE ARE GOING TO STILL GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY'RE NOT HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN OPTION.

YEAH, I KNOW I MEAN, I KNOW STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO THAT.

I JUST I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS AREN'T COMFORTABLE, I JUST I HAVE VERY BIG CONCERNS IN THE FACT THAT THEY'VE HAD 12 MONTHS TO SPEND THIS MONEY AND IN 12 MONTHS, THEY'VE ONLY SPENT SIXTEEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED.

AND NOW WE'RE ASKING THEM TO SPEND FIFTY EIGHT PERCENT OF THAT IN SIX MONTHS.

SO AND. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WANTING A RELATIVELY NEW AND SMALLER AGENCY, I JUST HAVE CONCERNS THAT THEY WON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS.

AND I WASN'T TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.

I WAS JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU DID WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT PRESENT, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE CONDITION THAT I WOULD PUT ON THAT REQUEST.

BUT IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO MOVE, NOT TO GRANT THAT EXTENSION, THEN YOU HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO DO THAT. IF WE DON'T GRANT THE EXTENSION, THOSE FUNDS WILL GO BACK OUT TO BE REALLOCATED. YES.

YES, IT WILL. THERE ARE ANOTHER REQUEST FOR APPLICATION PROCESS.

ME PERSONALLY, I'M FINE WITH SHOOTING IT DOWN.

I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST SCROOGE TONIGHT, BUT I DIDN'T.

BAH HUMBUG. YEAH, YEAH.

BUT I JUST BECAUSE I'M LOOKING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN I SEE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE OMIT MASK OR NOT MASK.

BUT THEY HERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY TOOK AN INITIATIVE.

AND IF WE'RE GRANTED, IF THEY COULDN'T BE HERE, THEY COULD HAVE PROVIDED THE INFORMATION ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE OTHER 58 PERCENT.

SO I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME ALLOCATING MONEY WITHOUT ANY.

HUH. YEAH. SO AND SO WHEN I REQUESTED THE INFORMATION, LITERALLY THE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE HERE ON YOUR ON YOUR SUMMARY IS EXACTLY WHAT I PUT IN THE EMAIL.

SO THEY'RE PLANNING TO EXPEND REMAINING FUNDS THAT TO SPEND THE REMAINING FUNDS.

THAT WAS WHAT WHAT? THAT'S EXACTLY EVERYTHING THAT THEY TOLD ME.

AND. I GUESS FOR ME THAT I NEEDED IT MORE THAN THAT.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOT APPROVE THEIR REQUEST OR THE ADDITIONAL TIME I.

BACK THEN, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR DO NOT APPROVE THE REQUEST.

I. I'LL SAY NAY NAME FOR MISS MIRAGE, SO THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT, WE HAVE NEW COMMUNITY HOUSING COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVE.

START THAT ONE, OK? COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVE, ACTUALLY IS SOMEONE HERE FROM COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVES. OK.

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I DIDN'T KNOW IF. EXCUSE ME.

YES. COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVES.

OK. SO THEY I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OTHER THAN JUST A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.

THIS IS A. BUT I DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONCERNS, I KNOW THEY'RE ACTIVELY SPENDING THEIR MONEY AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY ASSISTING PEOPLE, AND THEY HAVE TWO MORE APPLICATIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WISH I HAD A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, BUT IF THE AGENCY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SAYING THAT WITH THE TWO HOUSEHOLDS, THAT THAT'S ALL THEY NEED TO SPEND ALL THEIR FUNDS, BUT.

THEY'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THOSE TWO APPLICATIONS, LIKE THEY'RE IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW I SAW AN EMAIL. THAT'S THAT'S HOW I INTERPRETED IT, BUT OK, OH, THANK YOU.

OH, HE'S MOVING ALONG.

I ACTUALLY TALKED TO NICOLE FROM COMMUNITY HOUSING.

THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THESE ARE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND WITH ALL THE DELAYS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR ON THE APPLICATION.

SO THAT'S THE REQUEST IS THE TWO HOMEBUYERS ARE LOOKING FOR JUST WAITING FOR THEIR HOUSE TO BE BUILT. OK.

OH, THAT'S. THIS IS CV IS UPPER CV.

YEAH. MM HMM. THIS IS FOR RENT, MORTGAGE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

THAT'S OK. GOOD NEWS ON THAT ONE, THOUGH, OK? THIS WAS FOR RENT AND UTILITY, RENT, MORTGAGE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

RIGHT? WHICH I WOULD SAY THAT MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE IS SOMETHING THAT IS.

THAT WE DO WE HAVE ANOTHER AGENCY THAT PROVIDES THAT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO DO, BUT RENT DOES SEEM TO BE STILL PAYING RENT AND UTILITIES STILL DOES SEEM TO BE. SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DOES NEED.

I'M BACK ON THAT ONE.

BUT WHAT WAS THE TOTAL GRANT AMOUNT ORIGINALLY? UM, JUST OVER SIXTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

NINETEEN THOUSAND REMAIN THAT THEY ANTICIPATE.

DEPENDS ON HOW MANY, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GIVING TO THESE TWO HOUSEHOLDS.

HOUSEHOLDS. YES.

AND I WOULD JUST I WOULD EXPRESS I WOULD EXPRESS CONCERN JUST BECAUSE I KNOW OTHER AGENCIES THAT SPEND THAT MONEY LIKE NO TIME.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM SPENDING IT IN A YEAR.

THE ONLY THING WELL, I DON'T KNOW, THE ONLY THING I KNOW THAT, OF COURSE, IS HARDER.

HARD TO FIND HOUSING RIGHT NOW.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE PEOPLE THEY'RE WORKING WITH JUST CAN'T FIND A PROPERTY OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SITUATION IS, BUT IT'S NOT FOR HOME BUYERS.

IT'S ALREADY FOR THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY OWNING A HOME OR CURRENTLY RENTING.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE PROVIDING RENT ASSISTANCE OR MORTGAGE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

SO THEY HAVE SPENT SOME MONEY.

I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HOW MUCH, BUT.

THE CAVE WHERE THEY WERE DIRECTLY RELATED.

CORRECT? YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WOULD NEED SOME MORE BECAUSE THIS SHOULD HAVE GONE, BEEN GONE AND NO TIME.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT ONE.

AND HE. DEPUTY MAYOR, I SEE YOU GOT YOU.

OH, I'LL DO IT IF YOU DON'T.

ALL RIGHT. NO, NO, NO.

I DO IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT.

NO. OK.

MOTION TO APPROVE A SIX MONTH EXTENSION FOR A COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVE.

DO WE NEED TO ADD ON AN EVALUATION BY STAFF? I WOULD SAY SO, I'M NOT GOING TO TREAT AN AGENCY DIFFERENTLY, I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION. YEAH.

ARE YOU INCLUDING THE INFORMATION FOR THE STAFF, I MEAN, EVALUATION BY STAFF? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEYOND THAT? UM. SECONDARY APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT.

HAVE A MORE IN A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I.

HI. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

THEY PUT THEIR HANDS UP FOR DAYS.

KENNY NAY. FIVE.

AND THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE WE HAVE A NEW MOTION ON THE FLOOR, THEN

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OH, IF IT DOESN'T PASS WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OH SORRY, GO AHEAD. OR I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED ONE SINCE IT WAS DENIED.

WELL, JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE SIX MONTH EXTENSION TO COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVE.

BASED OFF OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AND THE OUTSTANDING AMOUNT.

SECOND. I CAN'T.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I BY ANY OPPOSED.

HE'S. OK, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW WE ARE ON FAMILY PROMISE OF BREVARD AND.

THE AGENCY IS ACTUALLY HERE, SO I WOULD ASK SOMEONE FROM FAMILY PROBLEMS TO COME UP, AND I DO. WELL, I DIDN'T SAY, I SAID NO COMMENTS.

I DO. YOUR CURRENT PLAN IS TO CONTINUE THEIR CURRENT PLAN FOR SERVICES, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GUYS ARE HAVING AN EFFECT ON ME.

GOOD EVENING. SO FAMILY PROMISE WAS AWARDED FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND YOU ANTICIPATE SPENDING HAVING ABOUT $30000 LEFT OVER TO SPEND IN A SIX MONTH PERIOD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MATH EQUATES TO, BUT COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE ON WHAT YOUR CURRENT PLANS ARE AND HOW YOU? WHAT YOU WOULD DO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SPEND YOUR FUNDS? OH, WOW. MAKE SURE IT'S FANCY.

NEVER HEARD ANYBODY SAY THEY DIDN'T HEAR ME, BUT PUT IT BACK? YEAH. SO THE ISSUE THAT WE RAN INTO IS THAT AS WE WERE MAKING OUR ORIGINAL PLANS FOR EXPENDITURES, AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE ARE NOT USING THESE FUNDS TO ACTUALLY PAY BACK RENT AND UTILITIES.

THESE FUNDS ACTUALLY ARE FUNDING THE CASE MANAGEMENT THAT WE PARTNER WITH OTHER FUNDS.

SO THIS IS STRICTLY CASE MANAGEMENT TO WORK WITH THE FAMILIES BECAUSE IN IN OUR SCOPE, PAYING SOMEONE'S BILL DOESN'T MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REMAINING HOUSED.

IT'S BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SIX TO 12 MONTHS OF CASE MANAGEMENT TO WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY DON'T FALL BACK INTO THAT CYCLE OF HOMELESSNESS OR BEING AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS AGAIN.

SO THE THE STRUGGLE THAT WE HAD IS ACTUALLY GETTING REFERRALS AS FUNDING HAS COME DOWN FROM CARES INTO SO MANY DIFFERENT POTS.

WE SAW A DISTINCT DROP IN CALLS NOT JUST FROM PALM BAY, BUT ALSO FROM ACROSS THE COUNTY AS WE'VE SLOWLY BEEN BUILDING THAT UP, BUILDING ADDITIONAL RELATIONSHIPS, INCLUDING PARTNERSHIPS WITH AGENCIES LIKE THE SOUTH OF OUR SHARING CENTER AND OBVIOUSLY OUR ACTIVE WORK THAT BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION.

IT'S REALLY GOING BACK AND REINFORCING THAT WE NEED THOSE REFERRALS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE CONTACT WITH THOSE REFERRALS.

WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THEM.

HOW OUR PLAN LOOKS IS BASICALLY IT'S IT'S SIMPLE.

IT'S ADDING TO NEW FAMILIES A MONTH.

AT TWO FAMILIES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PALM BAY AND FOR COVID FUNDING, WE'RE ABLE TO HIT THAT MAP THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE IN THAT EXTENDED PERIOD WE WOULD SPEND ANOTHER TWENTY TWENTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WE, YOU KNOW, I COULD PUT NUMBERS OUT HERE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL OF IT IN THAT SIX MONTHS, BUT I WANTED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY REALISTIC.

WE DO HOPE TO GET MORE THAN TWO FAMILIES, OF COURSE, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE REALISTIC IN KNOWING THAT SOME FAMILIES DO NOT FOLLOW THROUGH FOR A FULL 12 MONTHS.

A CASE MANAGEMENT, THEY MAY COME ON, THEY MIGHT DO TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM TO AT LEAST SIX MONTHS.

A CASE MANAGEMENT, THOUGH.

IT. SO FIRST OFF, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING REAL.

YOU COULD HAVE CAME UP HERE.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE THIRTY THOUSAND.

SO MY QUESTION, I GUESS THIS FOR MISS SANDRA FOR LEGAL OR WHATEVER.

WOULD BEING WITH THIS GENTLEMAN SHARE WITH US? WOULD IT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO EXTEND FOR THE TWENTY ONE THOUSAND OR JUST? I'M NO, YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING, LIKE, CAN WE EXTEND FOR A DIFFERENT AMOUNT THAN WHAT IS ON HERE? IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE AGENCY, THEN I'M I'M OK WITH THAT.

IF THEY FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, $30000 IS NOT REALISTIC FOR THEM.

OR I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT WE COULD SPEND 40000.

YES, SIR. BUT I JUST APPRECIATE BEING CONSIDERED FOR AN EXTENSION IF THAT EXTENSION IS FOR THE TWENTY ONE THREE.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THE TWENTY ONE THREE IF THE EXTENSION IS FOR THE REMAINING AMOUNT, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT AS WELL.

SHOW YOU BEING HONEST.

BUT SOMEONE.

GO AHEAD. MS. MARAJ, I'M ON THE FENCE WITH THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FIRST OFF, LIKE FOR

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ME, AT LEAST YOU'RE GOING TO GET TWENTY ONE WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING BECAUSE YOU'RE SHARING HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AT THE SAME TIME.

SAME TOKEN. THERE MAY BE AN INCREASE.

YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, FAMILY STICK TO THE PROGRAM LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

SO I WOULD HATE TO SHACKLE YOU AND THEN YOU END UP NEEDING IT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN ALWAYS, IF HE DOESN'T EXPEND IT ALL AND IT STILL COMES BACK TO US. CORRECT? CORRECT.

OK, THEN IN THAT CASE, I'M FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD, AS IS FOR THE FULL FULL AMOUNT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT DIALOG, SIR.

SO. ABSOLUTELY. SO IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT EVEN WITH THAT TWENTY ONE THOUSAND, YOU'RE NOT SURE BECAUSE YOUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET TWO FAMILIES PER MONTH, BUT YOU JUST MAY NOT EVEN GET THAT.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

OUR PLAN AT TWO FAMILIES PER MONTH FOLLOWS WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE PREVIOUS SIX MONTHS. SO WE HAD THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT DROP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GRANT CYCLE WITH OUR REQUEST THAT CAME IN.

SO WE DIDN'T JUST PICK THAT NUMBER OUT OF THE AIR.

WE ACTUALLY USED IT BASED ON WHAT WE HAD BEEN SEEING PREVIOUSLY.

SO THAT THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO REALLY STRAY FROM IT AND GO UP OR DOWN FROM IT BECAUSE IT WAS FOLLOWING WHAT OUR EXISTING PATTERN HAS BEEN FOR NEW FAMILIES IN PALM BAY.

WHAT YOU DID, YOU REQUEST AN EXTENSION? IT WAS JUST OFFERED TO YOU.

OH NO, WE REQUESTED OK.

QUESTION WHERE ARE YOU CURRENTLY RECEIVING YOUR REFERRALS FOR THESE FAMILIES? WITH THAT, WHERE ARE YOU CURRENTLY RECEIVING THE REFERRALS FOR THESE FAMILIES? SO WE RECEIVED DIRECT REFERRALS, WE ALSO RECEIVE REFERRALS FROM TWO ON ONE.

AND THEN WE ALSO TAKE REFERRALS FROM PARTNER AGENCIES.

SO WE HAVE A NO WRONG DOOR POLICY.

IF FAMILIES WANT TO REACH OUT TO US THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, THROUGH OUR REFERRAL LINE, THEY'RE ABLE TO DIRECTLY REACH OUT TO US.

OUR FUNDING IS SPECIFICALLY FOR FAMILIES WITH MINOR CHILDREN.

SO THAT DOES ELIMINATE SOME HOUSEHOLDS THAT MAY BE SEEKING FUNDING FROM US, EVEN IF WE DO HAVE HOUSEHOLDS REACH OUT TO US WITHOUT MINOR CHILDREN.

WE'RE STILL CONNECTING THEM TO OTHER SERVICES THROUGH OUR INTAKE COORDINATOR.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YEAH, ARE YOU CURRENT, BUT ARE YOU CURRENTLY TAKING ANY REFERRALS FROM THE.

IS IT STILL CALLED THE CHAT PROCESS PUSH PROCESS FOR PREVENTION? NO PREVENTION FUNDING DOES NOT GO THROUGH THE CHAT PROCESS.

THIS IS STRICTLY FOR PREVENTION.

UH, WE ARE DOING PREVENTION AND STABILIZATION, HOWEVER, THE CHAT PROCESS IS STRICTLY FOR RAPID REHOUSING, WHICH HAS ITS OWN UPSTREAM WITH CASE MANAGEMENT IN IT.

SO FOR PREVENTION, WHAT'S THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING A REFERRAL THAT A CLIENT OR A FAMILY IS IN NEED OF PREVENTION SERVICES? SURE. SO FOR A FAMILY TO BE ELIGIBLE AT THE BASIC LEVEL, IT'S THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MINOR CHILD IN THE HOUSEHOLD.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VALID LEASE AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THEY EITHER HAVE A THREE DAY NOTICE, AN EVICTION LETTER OR IN THE CASE OF UTILITIES, IT WOULD BE THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A SHUT OFF NOTICE FOR THE UTILITIES.

AND THEN THAT'S WHAT GETS THEM APPROVED FOR OUR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, SOME OF WHICH COMES THROUGH THE HOMELESS COALITION AND OTHER GRANTS.

AND SOME OF IT GOES THROUGH OUR PRIVATE FUNDING.

WE ALSO HAVE A STABILIZATION PROGRAM THAT SERVES FAMILIES IN PALM BAY SO THAT IF SOMEONE CONTACTS US AND NEEDS MOVING COSTS, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IN PRIVATE MOVE COSTS TO HELP PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, FIRST LAST SECURITY OR TO GET THEM MOVED INTO HOUSING.

AND THEN OUR GOAL IS TO PAIR THAT WITH THE CASE MANAGER THAT'S BEING FUNDED THROUGH THIS GRANT. SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY USING OTHER FUNDING TO PAY FOR THEIR THREE DAY NOTICE OR THEIR EVICTION NOTICE? CORRECT. QUESTION TO SANDRA.

SANDRA, CAN WE AMEND THAT? THEY COULD USE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO PAY FOR AN EVICTION OR UTILITIES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ABLE TO EXPEND THE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS? IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE ABLE TO DO TO KIND OF WIDEN THAT NET FOR THEM AND GIVE THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY? UM.

YES, IN A WAY YOU CAN.

YOU'RE. I WOULD CAUTION YOU AGAINST THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO INCREASE SOMETHING THAT INCREASE A BUDGET THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING OR DECREASING ON BUDGET, THAT ITEM THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING, THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT YOU'RE ADDING ON A BRAND NEW SERVICE THAT WHEN THEY APPLIED, WHEN AN AGENCY APPLIES, YOU KNOW, THEY APPLIED FOR FUNDING THEY WERE NOT AWARDED ON.

SO NOW YOU'RE CHANGING THEIR WHOLE SCOPE OF SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR HELPING EXPLAIN THAT.

YOU'RE ALSO VERIFYING THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY COVID.

CORRECT. CORRECT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THIS ONE, I THINK, BECAUSE.

THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT ASSISTANCE SERVICE, BUT ALSO WITH THE CASE MANAGEMENT COMPONENT.

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THERE WAS A LOT OF MONEY THAT HAS BEEN FUNNELED THROUGH RIVERSIDE COUNTY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS TO ADDRESS COVID IN AN EXTREMELY QUICK MANNER.

AND SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT THAT THERE WAS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT IT WAS FLOODED FOR A POINT IN TIME.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL TIME TO EXPEND THE FUNDS, I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH.

I MEAN. YES, THAT'S GOING ON NOW, I MEAN, THERE MAY BE A WHOLE NEW BATCH OF PEOPLE THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE UPTICK, AND NOW IT'S KIND OF GOING BACK DOWN AGAIN, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY. I MAKE.

I MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE FAMILY PROMISE TO PROVIDE THE SIX MONTH EXTENSION.

AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I BY ANY OPPOSE THAT MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU SEE, DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU'RE NOT A SCROOGE.

HE'S GOT THE REST OF THE NIGHT, THOUGH, GOING NEXT TO B OF THE SOUTH BREVARD SHARING CENTER. NOPE. NOPE.

OH. HELPS COMMUNITY INITIATIVES.

OK, THANK YOU.

SO I BELIEVE THERE IS A PERSON FROM HELPS COMMUNITY INITIATIVES HERE IN MY PROVINCE, I IN THEIR JUSTIFICATION REASON FOR NEEDING AN EXTENSION.

THEY CITED DELAY OF FUNDING.

SO I WOULD JUST I JUST WOULD ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THEY MEAN BY DELAY OF FUNDING.

AND THEN THEY SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO DO A THEY REQUESTED AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR BUDGET TO USE SOME OF THE FUNDS FOR PERSONAL COST DURING THAT EXTENDED PERIOD.

PERSONNEL COSTS ARE ALREADY WRAPPED UP INTO THAT COST.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ADDITIONAL.

AND THEN, IF SO, WHAT WAS THAT BEING TAKEN FROM? A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HELPS HELPS INITIATIVE.

I WANT TO COME UP. NAME FOR THE RECORD.

TYPEKIT SMITH AND I'M FROM.

DO I NEED AN ADDRESS OR SOMETHING? WE'RE GOOD. TERRY SMITH FROM HELPS COMMUNITY INITIATIVES AND.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ARE ASKING FOR IS IT THE FIVE MONTH EXTENSION THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST 31ST LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A DELAY IN GETTING STARTED WITH THE FUNDING AND EVERYTHING PART OF OUR MONEY WAS GOING TO BE USED WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR OUR SUMMER CAMP FOR OUR CHILDREN? WE HAD SUMMER CAMP FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH OF JULY, SERVED OVER 120 KIDS, YOU KNOW, JUMPING, SCREAMING AND HOLLERING EVERY DAY.

IT WAS OUR FIRST ROUND OF DOING THINGS, ALTHOUGH WE HAD STACKS OF PAPER FOR PARENTS TO SIGN AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO TO SIGN THEIR KIDS UP FOR SUMMER CAMP.

WE MISSED ONE FORM.

WE CALL IT THE PALM TREE FORM, FOR THE DEMOGRAPHICS, FOR THE REPORTING.

SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO COUNT ANY OF THOSE 120 KIDS.

NOW, ACCORDING TO OUR GRANT REQUESTS, NOW OUR FUNDING NOW WE NEEDED TO REPORT ON 100 KIDS. WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THAT.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE MADE THAT UP AS WELL AND SOME OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. BUT BECAUSE OF COVID, INSTEAD OF TAKING, YOU KNOW, 50 KIDS OUT TO STARBASE IN OUR VANS, WE HAD TO CUT THOSE NUMBERS BACK.

CAMPS WERE CANCELED.

YOU KNOW, THE CLASSES WERE CANCELED, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TRANSPORT THE KIDS.

EVEN JUST THIS WEEK, WE HAD WELL OVER THE WINTER CAMP WINTER BREAK HERE, HOLIDAY BREAK.

WE HAD TWO WEEKS SCHEDULED.

THEY HAD A STAFF MEMBER COME UP WITH COVID, WE HAD TO CANCEL ONE WEEK.

WE STILL WERE ABLE TO DO AN ADDITIONAL WEEK.

SO JUST THE NUMBERS LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN PUSHING US, YOU KNOW, OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

WE JUST RECENTLY PARTNERED WITH TUSKEGEE AIRMEN.

AND THEY HAVE A DRONE PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING WITH THEM WITH OUR KIDS.

SO AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT STUFF SCHEDULED WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP THOSE NUMBERS.

WE'RE ON A UNIT COST BASIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

JUST NEED MORE TIME.

IF NOT, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU KNOW, WE CAN BRING THEM ALL IN ON A WEEKEND AND GET IT DONE.

I'D RATHER, YOU KNOW, DO SOME GOOD PLANNING AND GET THEM OUT.

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SURE. I WAS JUST ONE.

SO JUST THREE QUESTIONS.

I SEE IT RIGHT HERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU NEED JUST FIVE MONTHS, NOT SIX, FIVE MONTHS. WE WANT TO GET THROUGH SUMMER.

WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER SUMMER CAMP.

WE'LL, YOU KNOW, SURE, WE'LL WE GET IT, GET IT DONE BY THEN IN JULY FOR THE MONTH OF JULY. AND THEN WHAT WE ASKED FOR THE THE STAFFING, OF COURSE, THEY WERE THROUGH THE END OF MARCH, WE HAD THEM BUDGETED OUT THROUGH THE END OF MARCH.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM OUT THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST NOW.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE THAT MONEY UP AND USE SOME OF THAT TO PAY OUT TO THE END OF MARCH.

OK. YEAH, BECAUSE WE WERE DOING THE WORK, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO REPORT ON IT, BUT WE WERE DOING OTHER WORK. IT'S NOT THEN ON THE WORD WORDING OF DELAY OF FUNDING.

BY THAT, YOU MEAN DELAY OF EXPENDING EXPENDING THE FUNDS OR WHAT DID YOU? COULD YOU CLARIFY ON THAT ONE? NO DELAY IN GETTING OUR FIRST AWARD, IT STARTED AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO START APRIL, MAY, JUNE OR APRIL WHEN YOUR FUNDING AGREEMENT.

YEAH, THE FUNDING AGREEMENT AND STUFF.

YES. IF ALL THE CDBG, ALL THE AGENCIES STARTED APRIL 1ST WITH THE CONTRACT START DATE, THERE HAS BEEN NO DEVIATION.

YEAH. SO EVERY SINGLE CDBG ONE AGENCIES, THEIR CONTRACT STARTS APRIL 1ST THROUGH MARCH 31ST, ALL OF CV THREE STARTS JULY 1ST AND GOES THROUGH JUNE 30TH.

THERE IS NO DEVIATIONS OR DIFFERENCES.

THERE ARE ALL THE SAME, SO ALL FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT IS CORRECT. OK, SO THERE WASN'T A DELAY IN FUNDING? NO. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, THAT YOU GUYS STARTED BUT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE PROPER RECORDING REQUIREMENTS.

AND NOW YOU DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE.

THAT ACCURATE.

NO, I MEAN THAT, TOO, BUT WE.

ABOUT THE TIME WE GOT ALL THE SIGNED AGREEMENTS AND EVERYTHING DONE, IT WAS ALREADY IT WAS JULY ALREADY AND WE HAD ALREADY, YOU KNOW, DONE ALL OUR REGISTRATIONS, EVERYTHING OR WHATEVER. AGAIN, WE FOR THAT PART, WE DID NOT UNDER, YOU KNOW, AND I, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WE NEEDED TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTICULAR FORM OR WE DIDN'T CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION IN JULY.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SANDRA, IF THEY DIDN'T CAPTURE THE INFORMATION IN JULY, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND CAPTURE THAT AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, CAN'T THEY BE FUNDED FOR WHAT THEY MISSED IN JULY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEEDED TO CAPTURE? SO PRIOR TO JULY, THE THE FORM IN QUESTION WAS PROVIDED ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WAS ALSO PROVIDED PRIOR TO THE JULY 1ST DATE IN QUESTION.

SO I TRY AND PROVIDE ALL OF OUR AGENCIES AS MUCH TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AS I CAN GO OVER ALL THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, THE AGREEMENT.

ONE OF THE DELAYS IN THIS AGREEMENT AND THIS AGENT HCR WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE, IS IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO BE TO TO BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT IN AGENCY HAS TO BE REGISTERED WITH SAM NCOV.

THAT IS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT OF ANYBODY RECEIVING FEDERAL AWARDS.

AND THERE WAS WHEN WE WENT TO GO, TRY AND EXECUTE THE CONTRACT, AND I DID THE DUE DILIGENCE OF LOOKING AT THE ZAMKA REGISTRATION.

HDI HAD NOT BEEN REGISTERED IN THERE.

THEREFORE, I WAS.

THE CITY WAS NOT AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT.

EVEN THOUGH IT STARTED, IT WAS EFFECTIVE APRIL 1ST.

LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I DID A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WITH MY AGENCIES UP UNTIL THE TIME WHERE THEIR CONTRACT WAS ACTUALLY EXECUTED.

ACTUALLY SIGNING THE DOCUMENT WAS DELAYED, BUT THE FUNDING STARTED APRIL 1ST AND ALL THE AGENCIES WERE NOTIFIED THAT THEIR CONTRACT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE APRIL 1ST AT THE SAME TIME.

THE CARES POINT, IF THEY WERE TO GO BACK, YES, THEY THEY WERE AFFORDED THAT ABILITY AND EVERYBODY THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO COLLECT, THEY WERE REIMBURSED FOR.

YES, BUT FOR FOR SUMMER CAMP.

AGAIN, WE GOT TWENTY THREE PARENTS TO COME BACK IN AND SIGN THE FORMS AGAIN.

SO WE DID THAT.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN CONTINUING WITH THE PROCESS.

WE KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE FORM THAT'S APPROVED BY THE.

WE HAD FORMS, BUT THEY WEREN'T THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEEDED ON THOSE FORMS. AND SO WE I MEAN, WE HAD STACKS OF FORMS, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF CLEARANCES FOR KIDS THAT YOU USE FOR SUMMER CAMPS, BUT, YOU KNOW, SIGN IN SHEETS, ALL OF THAT STUFF.

BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DEMOGRAPHIC FORM.

SO WE HAVE AGAIN, WE'VE RECTIFIED THAT.

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WE WERE ABLE TO GET TWENTY TWENTY THREE OF THE PARENTS TO COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AND SIGN THOSE FORMS. BUT NOW IT'S A PART OF OUR PACKET FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS.

SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, THOUGH, BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST CAME UP, YOU SAID THERE WAS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY KIDS.

I BELIEVE YOU SAID SUMMER CAMP.

OH YEAH, WE DID. AND SO YOU MISSED OUT REIMBURSEMENT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

BUT YES, YOU DID GO BACK AND HAVE THEM FILL OUT THE FORM.

TWENTY THREE OF THEM.

OK, SO THERE WAS A PERIOD THAT YOU WEREN'T ABLE.

YEAH, YEAH. YEAH, WE DID.

THEY THEY DIDN'T COME BACK IN.

WE HAD, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS WAS MONTHS MONTHS LATER, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER.

AND SO AGAIN, WE WE FIGURED WITH OUR NUMBERS WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT UP AGAIN. WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, FROM THE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAD PLANNED, WE HAVE WE HAVE ACTIVITIES ALL THE TIME.

THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY GOING TO BE DONE BY SUMMER CAMP.

ALSO, PART OF THOSE FUNDS WERE GOING TO BE USED IN OUR CAREER DEVELOPMENT FOR IN PREPARATION FOR THE.

A MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

WE'RE GETTING MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, ENTREPRENEURS READY FOR THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, WHICH WAS A PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED IN SEPTEMBER.

IT WAS CANCELED THE PALM BAY MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

IT'S NOW SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY THE 29TH AGAIN.

BY THE END, WE'RE EXPECTING TO SPEND A MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDS AND THEN AGAIN, FROM THAT EVENT, WE WERE GOING TO CAPTURE ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, MINORITY BUSINESSES AS THEY COME THROUGH AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THEM GOING FORWARD.

WE'LL STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY ON JANUARY THE 29TH.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE APPLIED FOR THIS FUNDING.

OR CBG? YES, MA'AM.

YES. ALL RIGHT, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING AMAZING AND PROVIDING THE TECHNICAL SUPPORT THAT I KNOW YOU DO. THANK YOU.

AND BECAUSE IT'S THEIR FIRST TIME AND I UNDERSTAND THEY GOT THE TECHNICAL SUPPORT, BUT IT IS DIFFICULT. I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THEIR REQUESTS FOR EXTENSION FOR FIVE MONTHS.

MOTION IN THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I ANY OPPOSE.

OKAY, SO THAT MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MM HMM. NOW, SOUTH BREVARD DID WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE THE COLD NIGHT SHELTER OPEN IF ANYBODY WANTS ANY FLIERS BEFORE WE'RE OPEN NOW FOR BUSINESS.

WERE WE SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THEY WANTED TO CHANGE OR GET FUNDING FOR SOMETHING ELSE OR THAT'S COVERED ON THERE? SHE WAS SAYING THAT IT WASN'T ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, IT WAS JUST TO EXTEND THE PERSONNEL TO AUGUST.

YEAH. SO THEN AS LONG AS THE UNIT COST IN THE CONTRACT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AT ALL, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER'S CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET.

YOU. ON SOUTH BOVARD SHARING CENTER.

OK, SO I'VE ACTUALLY.

THAT I BELIEVE SOMEBODY, PAMELA, FROM SOUTH REPORTING CENTER IS HERE.

THEIR REQUEST IS ONLY $5000 OVER A SIX MONTH PERIOD.

THEY HAVE HAD A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP.

THEY'RE ARE ALSO ASKING, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON WHAT WAS IN THE APPLICATION TO WHAT WAS IN THEIR CONTRACT, WHAT THEY COULD USE THOSE FUNDS FOR.

WHEN I DID MY INITIAL ON SITE MONITORING WITH THEM, I ALSO PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND.

WE WENT THROUGH WHAT WAS IN THE APPLICATION, HOW THAT TRANSPOSED INTO THEIR CONTRACT, AND THAT WHAT WAS STILL IN THEIR AGREEMENT.

THEY STILL COINCIDE.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WAS FULLY UNDERSTOOD.

THEY ARE. THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT.

THEY WANT TO DO ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AND TO REALLOCATE THE THE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO USE THEM. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE PANEL, IF YOU WANTED TO COME UP AND GIVE ANY MORE FURTHER CLARIFICATION, I KNOW EVERY OTHER AGENCY HAS BEEN AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO. NOT HAVE YOUR AGENCY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING. I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, I APOLOGIZE AT MY OPERATIONS MANAGER IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.

SHE CAN SPEAK TO THIS OF.

BETTER THAN I CAN.

I AM A NEW LEADER.

I CAME ON BOARD IN AUGUST AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING. THERE WERE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATIONAL CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO TAKE PLACE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY DELIVER ON THE GRANT UNDER. CAN WE GET AN EXPLANATION? SO THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S $5000 NOT EXPENDED?

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IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S THE INFORMATION I WAS PROVIDED.

OK, SO WHAT IS THE INFORMATION DOWN HERE ABOUT THE THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TO REALLOCATE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. OK, SO THE SO SOUTH BOVARD HAS SAID THAT THEY ANTICIPATE AT THE END OF MARCH 31ST ONLY HAVING FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS LEFT OVER, WHICH MEANS BETWEEN THEIR CONTRACTS START TIME TO MARCH THIRTY.

FIRST, THEY'LL HAVE EXPENDED ALL BUT FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ESTIMATING.

SO ARE THEY ASKING FOR A REALLOCATION OF FUNDS? THAT'S WHY I'M FOR ALSO ASKING FOR A REALLOCATION OF THEIR BUDGET AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I'VE HAD ALLOWS THEM TO REALLOCATE IT, AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY HUD WILL APPROVE THAT EXTENSION REQUEST.

BUT YOU'RE NOT ASKING FROM US, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU.

NOT. YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

SORRY. REQUEST OR MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU ALL YOU ALSO HAVE TO APPROVE THE OVER TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF OF THAT, THEN YES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE IT IS. IT DOES TRIGGER A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT BECAUSE MORE THAN TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF A BUDGET ITEM IS BEING MOVED.

OK, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST HAVE. I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GETTING.

I SEE I'M ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH.

I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GETTING AT BECAUSE BY THE TIME THIS REQUEST GOES THROUGH, IT MAY BE MARCH BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY IN MID-JANUARY AND THAT REQUEST MAY NOT HAPPEN IN TIME.

AND I JUST I WONDER WHY, WHY? WHY ARE YOU HAVING? WHY ARE YOU HAVING A PROBLEM SPENDING FUNDS ON BRIDGE HOUSING WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CAN USE THAT RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY WE CAN'T USE IT ON BRIDGE HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT'S HARDLY ALLUDED TO.

THERE HAS BEEN AN INFLUX OF MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAD PRIOR TO MOST RECENTLY BEEN TAPPING INTO ANOTHER BUCKET OF FUNDS FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

OUR INTAKE TEAM IS UNDER NEW LEADERSHIP AS I HAVE A BRAND NEW OPERATIONS MANAGER WHO STARTED JUST THIS WEEK.

SHE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE PROGRAMS, AND SHE IS WORKING MORE CLOSELY WITH OUR INTAKE TEAM TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE ASKING THE PROPER QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN.

WE DON'T JUST AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THAT OTHER BUCKET.

WE MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE A HOME RESIDENT, THEN WE'RE TAPPING INTO THIS BUCKET RATHER THAN WHAT WE HAD BEEN DOING.

AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO THAT OTHER ONE BECAUSE IT WAS EASIER.

HMM. SO I DID WANT TO ADDRESS BECAUSE I HEARD A COUPLE OF YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE FIVE VERSUS THE THIRTEEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY AND I CAN SEE.

HOW THAT WOULD. SO WOULD IT BE? I MEAN, DO YOU STILL ANTICIPATE DOING THE FOURTH OUT 5000 OR DID YOU WANT TO AMEND THAT TO SAY THE THIRTEEN THOUSAND THAT WAY? IF BY THE TIME HUD DOES APPROVE IT, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HUD AND HUD TAKES THEIR TIME, THAT IF YOU CAN'T REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS BY MARCH THIRTY FIRST THAT THAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING LEFT OVER AND THEN THOSE FUNDS COULD BE REALLOCATED AT THE SAME TIME. GIVEN RECENT CIRCUMSTANCES, IF YOU WISH TO DISREGARD THE REQUEST FOR THE REALLOCATION, I I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN EXPEND THOSE BRIDGE FUNDS.

I WOULD RATHER SEE THE FUNDS BE USED FOR BRIDGE FUNDS JUST BECAUSE I KNOW PERSONALLY FROM BEING OUT IN THE CAMPS THAT THAT'S NEEDED, AND I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT MAYBE I KNOW THAT HOUSING FOR THE HOMELESS HAS PARTNERED WITH THE MELBOURNE HOSPITAL, MAYBE REACHING OUT TO PALM BAY HOSPITAL.

FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THAT NEED TO COME OUT INTO A HOTEL TO RECOVER COULD BE A WAY FOR YOU TO EXPEND YOUR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

YES. SO YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITIES AND POSSIBLE PARTNERSHIPS.

I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION IF WE'RE NOT REALLOCATING THE FUNDS, IF EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

IF THAT'S YOUR EMOTION, THEN YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MOTION FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE WE STILL SAYING ONLY $5000.

ARE WE SAYING THE WHOLE 13 NOW? WELL, HE SAID SHE CAN ACTUALLY EXPEND THOSE FUNDS, SO WE'RE JUST EXTENDING THE FIVE THOUSAND. SO YOU'RE REALLY SO REALLY WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO EXTEND THEIR CONTRACTS, YOU'RE YOU'RE SENDING IT FOR YOU'RE NOT REALLY, YOU'RE JUST EXTENDING THEIR TIME FOR THEIR CONTRACTS SO THAT DON'T NEED TO STATE THE AMOUNT.

THIS IS YES, BECAUSE IT'S AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE.

BUT IF YOU EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT, THEN WHATEVER THEIR INITIAL AWARD AMOUNT IS, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO EXTEND THAT EXTENDED THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE CONTRACT PERIOD.

AND THEY ESTIMATED TO EXPEND.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT WITHOUT THE REALLOCATION OF FUNDS.

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I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I, I OPPOSE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, I JUST SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.

YES. I JUST WANTED TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE SEEM TO HAVE A REAL COMMUNICATION PROBLEM BETWEEN THESE AGENCIES AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHEN I HEAR THAT FUNDS CAN'T BE EXTENDED EXPENDED, YOU KNOW, AS WE JUST MENTIONED AT THESE BRIDGE HOUSING FUNDS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE SUCH A LONG TIME.

SO I DON'T KNOW EACH ORGANIZATION WE REALLY, REALLY LOOK AT WHO AND HOW YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THE CITIZENS BECAUSE I COULD GO OUT THE STREET RIGHT NOW AND FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE DESPERATE.

SO WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE DOING INTERNALLY, YOU NEED TO REEVALUATE BECAUSE THIS SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING HERE IN THE CITY.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE HERE.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S A NOT NICE TO SEE IT.

NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CDBG TV THREE REQUESTS IN THE FIRST IS CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF CENTRAL FLORIDA INC. WHAT WAS THAT? THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR THE NEW FUNDING.

NO. OK, SO YES.

SO WITH TV, THERE IS TWO DIFFERENT STREAMS OF FUNDING THERE CV, ONE THAT WE GOT AT ONE TIME AND THEN IF WE GOT A DIFFERENT ALLOCATION FOR CV THREE.

ALL RIGHT. I KNOW LOTS OF LOTS OF CDBG OUT THERE.

SO SOMEONE FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS PRESIDENT ACTUALLY WAS OUT THERE TODAY FOR THEIR MONITORING. SO THEY THEY THEY DID GIVE ME A PLAN.

MY CONCERN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT FROM THE FROM THE AGENCY IS THE SAME AS I HAD FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA IS JUST TO.

WELL, THEY HAVE A PLAN, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M REALLY QUESTIONING, IT'S JUST.

SPENDING THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS.

I ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDS SPENT IN HALF THE TIME.

GOING TO COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

HELLO, I'M JENNIFER BRANDON, AND I'M WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF CENTRAL FLORIDA.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, OR I JUST I GUESS MY ONLY MY QUESTION WAS ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAS ANOTHER QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU FEEL WILL BE DIFFERENT IN SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF FUNDS? YOUR CENTRAL CATHOLIC IS AWARDED ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR THOUSAND EIGHT FORTY ONE.

AND YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING 50 LEFT, WHICH IS ALMOST HALF OF YOUR ALLOCATION, BUT SPENDING IT IN HALF THE TIME.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT YOU WERE DOING THAT LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL BE THAT YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN SPEND THAT REMAINING AMOUNT OF FUNDS, BUT IN A SHORTER TIME PERIOD.

OK, I JUST WANT TO SAY I CAME ON BOARD IN JULY.

THAT'S WHEN WE GOT THE GRANT.

SO I HAD TRAINING.

SO THAT WAS A MONTH AND I DIDN'T HAVE AN OFFICE IN PALM BAY.

I NOW HAVE TWO OFFICES IN PALM BAY.

WE HAVE WE HAD A GOAL TO DO 30 HOUSEHOLDS IN THE YEAR AND I'VE DONE 17, WHICH IS MORE THAN HALF BECAUSE I THINK IT STARTED TO AUGUST.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT I'VE DONE BEFORE IS I'VE GONE TO I'VE GONE OUT AND GONE TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, REAL ESTATE AGENTS, AND NOW WE'VE GOT A PLAN TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS, GO TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS, TARGET SOME MORE CHURCHES AND DROP OFF FLIERS.

WE HAVE A FLIER THAT'S BEING MADE UP.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY NEXT WEEK SO I CAN DROP THOSE OFF IN PERSON OR I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE TO MORE PLACES.

WHAT IS THE SERVICE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED? I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE.

OH, THEY PROVIDE RENT AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.

SO. I DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVE EXCEEDED OUR TARGET GOAL FOR PAYING FOR RENT, WE CAN PAY FOR THREE MONTHS RENT FOR AND WE ARE TARGET.

WE'VE GONE THAT.

WE'VE EXCEEDED IT.

WE'VE GONE ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS INSTEAD OF.

IT WAS ONLY A THOUSAND AND WE'VE SAID WE'VE EXCEEDED THE GOAL OF RENT PER MONTH.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS NEEDED THREE MONTHS OF RENT.

AND A QUESTION SO.

THESE FUNDS, MOST OF THESE FUNDS WOULD BE FOR HELPING WITH RENT, IS THAT CORRECT? RENT AND MORTGAGES? YES. WHOEVER IS GETTING FLIERS LIKE YMCA, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND STUFF, HOW TO HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK, WHAT THE KIDS TAKE THE FLIERS HOME, GIVE THEM TO THE PARENTS AND THEN THE PARENTS SAY, OH, OK, LET'S GET RENTAL HELP FROM YOUR CHARITY OR

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THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE.

YES. IT'S JUST TWO ONE ONE.

KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THIS FUNDING.

YES, WE GET TWO ONE ONE.

WE GET WE HAVE IT ONLINE.

IT'S BRAND NEW ONLINE BOARDING SYSTEM WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES.

THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF INFORMATION WE'VE GOTTEN THAT WAY.

OTHER AGENCIES HAVE REFERRED THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS BEEN REFERRING.

I JUST HAVE A CONCERN THAT THE AMOUNT THAT'S BEING ASKED TO BE EXPENDED IN SIX MONTHS.

HOW MANY? HOW MANY CLIENTS, HOW MANY.

RENTAL CLIENTS, ARE YOU CURRENTLY ASSISTING? AT THIS TIME, LET'S SAY, SINCE AUGUST, WE HAVE ASSISTED 17 HOUSEHOLDS, REALLY 17 17, AND WE WERE WE WERE TRYING TO DO TWO A MONTH.

WHAT WHAT IS THE APPROVAL PROCESS? SO YOU HELP.

YOU HELP TWO, SORRY, TWO A MONTH, DO YOU? IT'S BEEN MORE THAN THAT, BUT THAT WAS OUR GOAL.

OK. SO WAS THAT COME TO ABOUT 2000 $3000 A MONTH? YEAH. THREE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS IS WHAT WE CAN HELP EACH HOUSEHOLD UP TO THREE MONTHS ONLY.

AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS IS THEY WE WE WE DON'T JUST GIVE THE MONEY OUT.

WE DO MAKE THEM GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PAY AFTER WE GET OUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO HAVE THEM BE EVICTED RIGHT AFTER WE GET DONE PAYING.

SO I'VE HAD TO TURN SOME PEOPLE DOWN.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE I HAVE TO PROVIDE IT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND IF THEY DON'T PROCESS THE DOCUMENTATION FOR ME, I CAN'T HELP THEM.

AND BACK TO HIS QUESTION, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE VIEWER SPENDING FROM AUGUST UNTIL NOW PER MONTH? WE HAVE SPENT THE 22000, I DON'T HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN PER MONTH.

I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO EXPEND THE AMOUNT THAT IS BEING ASKED TO.

BE. THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE.

WE START WE WERE NOT IN PALM BAY AS MUCH AS WE WERE AS MUCH AS WE HAVE BEEN.

WE ARE GETTING THE WORD OUT.

IT IS STARTING.

I THINK NOVEMBER I HELPED 20 PEOPLE, WHICH WAS MY BIGGEST MONTH YET.

DECEMBER WAS A LITTLE SLOWER.

AND I'M ALREADY DOING VERY WELL FOR THIS MONTH.

THEY WANT TO CONSIDER SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL.

HE JUST DIDN'T MENTION THAT AT ALL.

CATHOLIC CHARITIES DOES ALL THAT FROM OUR HEADQUARTERS IN ORLANDO.

DO YOU SEE IT SHOWING UP HERE LOCALLY? I'M SORRY. DO YOU SEE THOSE ADS OR WHATEVER YOU DO, SHOW UP LOCALLY ON PEOPLE'S FACEBOOK PAGES OR YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THAT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

I'M SORRY. I'M NOT MEDIA.

I DON'T. THEY DON'T GIVE US INFORMATION.

YOU'D BE MISS EMMA.

I DID HAVE ONE TYPO OF HERE.

IT'S JUNE 30TH AT THEIR CONTRACT ENDS IS A CV THREE, SO.

I DIDN'T.

IT MOST LIKELY THAT YOU'LL BE COMING BACK IN APRIL TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT, I'M NOT THE GRANT WRITER THAT IS SOMEONE THAT'S IN ORLANDO. I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU WITH THAT QUESTION.

I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.

SO WHAT HAPPENS TO? YOUR REGULAR GROUP OF CLIENTS, IF YOU DON'T GET THIS MONEY, ARE YOU GOING TO SORT OF LIKE. HOLD UP DOING THAT.

WELL, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OFFER THE PALM BAY GRANT ANYMORE, BUT WE HAVE OTHER GRANTS THAT WE USE THROUGH THE BHP.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. I JUST WANT TO ADD, YOU'RE GOING ALL THE WAY TO JUNE WITH THE SO YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY, YOU KNOW, SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT AND THEN WHATEVER REMAINS, THEN THAT JUST COMES BACK TO THE CITY.

YES, THAT'S THE PROCESS.

SIX MORE MONTHS. SO YOU DO HAVE SIX MONTHS RIGHT NOW.

HOW MANY DID YOU SAY IN 17 HOUSEHOLDS? I WOULD ACTUALLY SUGGEST I KNOW I BROUGHT BOTH CV AND CV THREE, BUT AND CV THREE DOESN'T END UNTIL JUNE 30TH.

AND I KNOW THAT WE WERE TWO MONTHS OUT FROM CV, MAYBE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

BRING THIS THE TWO.

WE ONLY HAD TWO AGENCIES FOR CV THREE REQUEST EXTENSION, SO MAYBE BRING THOSE TWO BACK THAT WILL GIVE STAFF A LITTLE MORE TIME TO SEE HOW THEY'RE EXPENDING THEIR FUNDS AND IF THERE IS AN UPTICK IN THEIR EXPENSES.

I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE TWO CV THREE APPLICATIONS THAT SECOND WAIT DO MEAN DO WE NEED A DATE? CONTINUING OR WHAT THEY IT NOW, WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.

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IT MAY NOT BE CONTINUING WELL, YEAH, WE'LL.

WHICH ONE IS OVER? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON.

I'D RATHER SAY TABLE WITH NO DATE, AND SO YOU CAN WAIT TABLE UNTIL STAFF SEES APPROPRIATE, I GUESS, OR.

YES. ENOUGH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

AND A SECOND THAT SECOND THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, I OPPOSE NO, I VOTE I AND THAT MOTION CARRIED. OK.

IS THIS REALLY OK, SO NOW WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, SCORING AN EVALUATION OF CDBG FUNDING REQUESTS FOR THE FY TWENTY TO TWENTY TWENTY THREE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

YES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE.

BEFORE YOU BEGIN, WE HAVE YOURS.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE SCORE SHEETS IN YOUR PACKET, WE PRINTED THEM SEPARATELY SO THAT YOU COULD. THIS THEY'RE BY THEMSELVES, SO ALAN IS GOING TO BE PASSING THEM OUT.

YES, I HAVE THREE.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHILE SHE'S PASSING THOSE OUT, I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, SO THIS IS FOR OUR ENTITLEMENT DOLLARS FOR CDBG FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED ONE FOR FISCAL YEAR, TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE CDBG AND THEN THE RE.

THE APPLICATION WE PUT OUT FOR CBG CV THREE FOR THE REALLOCATION OF FUNDING BASED ON AN AGENCY TERMINATING THEIR CONTRACT.

AND SO THOSE FUNDS WENT BACK TO THE CITY, ESSENTIALLY FOR REALLOCATION.

SO THIS IS THE FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TO TWENTY THREE CDBG ENTITLEMENT DOLLARS.

IT'S NOT THE CVV THREE.

SO STAFF PUT OUT AN RFA FOR 30 DAYS.

UM, FIFTY UP TO 15 PERCENT OF THE FUNDING, ANTICIPATED FUNDING OR THE FUNDING IN GENERAL CAN ONLY GO TOWARDS PUBLIC SERVICES.

WE REQUEST 20 PERCENT OF IT TO GO TO ADMIN AND THE REMAINING TO GO TO NONPUBLIC SERVICE OR OTHER ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES.

SO WE PUT THE WE PUT THE REQUEST FOR APPLICATION OUT ON NOVEMBER 8TH WITH A DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 10TH AT 12 12 P.M., WE RECEIVED FIVE PUBLIC SERVICE APPLICATIONS.

AND FOR APPLICATIONS, FOR OTHER ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES OR NONPUBLIC SERVICES, SO I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS. SINCE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING AND YOU CAN ONLY DO UP TO 15 PERCENT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, I'D LIKE YOU TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS AND EVALUATE JUST THE.

PUBLIC SERVICE IS FIRST, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT FUNDING AND THEN YOUR NON PUBLIC SERVICES. SO WE DID HAVE FIVE AGENCIES SUBMIT APPLICATIONS.

THEY'RE ALL ELIGIBLE.

THEY ALL MADE AN ELIGIBLE USE AND THEY ALL WERE REQUESTED TO BE HERE.

IN CASE YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THERE WILL BE NO PRESENTATIONS OR HANDOUTS.

OH. YES.

SO, SO DO WE JUST DISCUSS ONE BY ONE AND THEN IF WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN CALL THEM UP. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? SO WE DID HAVE MORE FUNDING REQUESTS THAN WE DO HAVE FUNDING AVAILABILITY.

WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE IT NEARLY AS MUCH THIS YEAR AS WE DID LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR WE HAD 15 AGENCIES AND.

UM, ALMOST FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT THIS YEAR, WE.

HAD. MORE, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE.

AS MUCH, BUT WE DID HAVE MORE FUNDING REQUESTS THAN WE DO HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE.

AND THE TOTAL FUNDING AMOUNT REQUESTED IS LOOKING WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT? 13, FIVE, SEVEN.

RIGHT, CORRECT. GOING TO FIND IT TO.

THE PAST, HAVEN'T THEY DONE A THREE MINUTE PRESENTATION? YES, IN THE PAST, AND THEY WERE ALSO SCORED ON THE PRESENTATIONS EARLIER ON IN THE YEAR WHEN THE CDHB BOARD MET, I BELIEVE WAS BEFORE HE BECAME A MEMBER.

IT WAS IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD NOT DO PRESENTATIONS OR HANDOUTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DID ALL WHEN I DID ALL MY INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS AGENCIES WERE BEING SCORED ON THEIR PRESENTATIONS, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CRITERIA AND WE TOOK THAT AWAY.

AGENCIES SHOULD ONLY BE SCORED BASED ON WHAT'S IN THEIR APPLICATION AND IF THEY STATE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT'S IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

OR THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES WHO MAY HAVE REALLY GOOD PRESENTERS, BUT THEY.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T REALLY.

BUT THE WHAT'S IN THEIR APPLICATION IS DIFFERENT, OR YOU CAN HAVE AN AGENCY WHO HAS A

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REALLY GOOD APPLICATION AND ARE PROVIDING REALLY GOOD SERVICES, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE THE BEST AT PUBLIC SPEAKING AND THEY COULD BE HINDERED EFFECTIVELY.

SO BASED ON THE INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS THAT I HAD EARLIER ON, IT WAS THIS WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO HAVE AGENCY SCORED SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S ON THEIR APPLICATION ONLY BECAUSE ALSO THAT'S ONLY WHAT I CAN GO ON WHEN I DO MY MY JOB RECIPIENT AGREEMENTS.

SO IF THEY SAY SOMETHING IN THE IN THEIR IN THEIR PRESENTATION AND IT'S NOT IN THEIR APPLICATION AND IT'S SCORED BASED ON THAT, I CAN'T HONOR WHATEVER THEY SAID IN THEIR ART, THEIR PRESENTATION.

I HAVE TO GO BY WHAT'S IN THE APPLICATION ONLY.

IS IT OK IF THEY GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW? UM, NOT NECESSARILY PRESENTATION, THAT KIND OF IS THE PRESENTATION, SO THEY SHOULD BE SCORED SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S IN THEIR APPLICATION.

AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MOVE MY MIC, BUT IN ORDER TO GET TO THE TABULATION SHEET, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO A COMPUTER AND THERE'S NO ACCESS HERE. SO. DON'T MIND ME.

WHY MOVE? WE JUST GET FIVE MINUTES TO COMPLETE A COURSE BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THERE, HERE, IF YOU WANT TO ASK THEM.

YEAH. SO IF YOU HAVE CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING YOU WEREN'T SURE ON ON WHAT'S IN THEIR APPLICATION, THEN THIS WOULD BE THE THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF OF THE OF THE AGENCIES.

WE PRETTY MUCH LIKE CITY COUNCIL, IF SOMETHING STANDS OUT THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE LIKE, WAIT A SEC, I NEED CLARIFICATION THEN.

AND SO I GUESS ANOTHER THING FOR THE BOARD, BECAUSE SOME SOME MEMBERS ARE NEW ON THIS BOARD. YOU GOT TO GO.

YOU GOT TO GO. KIND OF.

WE HAVE OUR KEY CRITERIA OF WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LIGHT UP FOR PUBLIC SERVICE.

THAT IS WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, YOU KNOW, SO YOU GOT TO DO IT BASED OFF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR MORALS AND WHERE YOU STAND. SO WITH WHAT YOU KNOW, WITH ONE, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT YOUTH MENTORING.

THAT MIGHT BE THE HOT TOPIC FOR YOU, WHERE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, IT'S TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

SO THAT'S GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING TO SHARE MY MIC WAS ON.

YES. I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY BEFORE THEY START TABULATING AND FILLING OUT THE CARDS.

SO I'M DONE.

AND EACH OF THE ITEMS HAS A.

HAS A BREAKOUT OF WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE, AND SO YOU WOULD SCORE ACCORDINGLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DID AS A BOARD THAT WAS DIFFERENT THIS YEAR IS YOU RANKED AT ONE OF YOUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS BEFORE THE RFA WENT OUT.

WHAT YOU'RE NOT FOR THREE, BUT FOUR KDB FOR THIS APPLICATION THAT YOU'RE SCORING IS WHAT WERE YOUR TOP PRIORITIES? SO IF WHEN YOU GET TO THAT SECTION ON CONSOLIDATED PLAN CONSISTENCY PRIORITIES, IF AN AGENCY MEETS ONE OF THOSE TOP FIVE THAT YOU SAID THIS YEAR, WE WANT TO SCORE THESE HIGHER THAN THOSE SCORES WOULD BE HIGHER THAN SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T NEED IT.

NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T FUND AN AGENCY THAT DOESN'T MEET ONE OF THOSE TOP PRIORITIES. IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU GIVE MORE.

YOU SCORE HIGHER.

FOR THAT PARTICULAR PRIORITY, IF THEY DO MEET, SAY, ONE OF YOUR HIGH PRIORITIES.

OK. I ALSO.

SO THAT WAS IN YOUR.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PULL IT UP, IT WAS IN THE APPLICATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, BUT ALSO IN YOUR.

SUMMARIES, I ALSO DID POINT OUT WHETHER IT WAS A CDHB TOP PRIORITY, SO.

SORRY. HMM.

HERE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ONE OF THE ORGANIZATION.

AND. I'LL BEAR WITH US, YES, PLEASE.

I'M SO SORRY.

SO I CAN KIND OF. OH, YOU'RE AWESOME.

ERNIE, YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. SO MUCH.

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SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ONE APPLICANT, IS THAT FUN CHAIR? YES, SIR. OK.

OH, IT WAS.

YOU MISS MIRAGE. I DID.

SHE HAD ONE. SHE WANTS TO GO.

DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? IT'S I AM MINISTRIES DOING BUSINESS AS THE SOURCE.

ARE THEY HERE? FOR LET ME GET UP AND SEARCH FOR JESUS.

RIGHT? I PUT A HURTING ON THAT CHAIR, BOY.

DIGNITY. THIS IS OK.

HELLO. HI.

HI, HOW ARE YOU? SO I'M ANTHONY ZR1.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SOURCE.

HOW CAN I HELP YOU WITH? WELL, I DO LIKE THE DIGNITY, BUT I WISH I HAD A PICTURE OF IT JUST TO SEE IT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ONE? HE HAS ONE. OH, I'M ON ITS PHONE.

OH IT. IT'S AWESOME.

BUT I DID WANT TO ASK ABOUT YOU.

THERE'S A $2 FEE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I READ THAT.

YES. CORRECT. CORRECT.

AND SO IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE THAT TO DO, ARE YOU TURNING PEOPLE AWAY OR ARE THEY JUST LINE UP TO GET THE $2 FEE? NO. SO BECAUSE WE'RE IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH ST VINCENT DE PAUL.

ST VINCENT DE PAUL'S MISSION IS TO NOT TURN ANYBODY AWAY SO THEY'LL BE COVERING INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE THAT FEE.

SO WE BELIEVE IN INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO HAVE A BUY IN THAT IF YOU CONTINUE, IF YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE THINGS FOR FREE THAT THEY DON'T RESPECT IT OR TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF BUY IN TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BUS. OK. SO WHEN THEY ON THE FOR THE THE PAY, THE $2 HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ST VINCENT DE PAUL WILL ALSO BE FUNDING PERSONS WHO CAN'T PAY AS WELL HERE.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND ARE THEY GETTING BLANKETS AND EVERYTHING WHEN THEY COME HERE OR? GOSH, I WOULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED I WAS TRYING TO IMAGINE I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE LITTLE BLANKETS ON THE GROUND OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S A NICE.

SO THIS THIS PROJECT STARTED IN MARCH AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTY.

WE TRIED TO OPEN AN EMERGENCY SHELTER IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY FOR JUST OVER FOUR YEARS.

NIMBYISM IS IS HUGE AND EVERY COMMUNITY.

NOBODY WANTS IT IN THEIR BACKYARD.

SO WE JUST KEPT TRYING TO PUT A ROUND PEG IN A SQUARE HOLE.

SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS AMAZING CONCEPT TO TAKE A 45 FOOT GREYHOUND MOTOR COACH AND STRIP THE INSIDE OF IT.

WE USED A GREYHOUND BECAUSE IT HAS A BATHROOM IN THE BACK OF IT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE 20 SLEEPING PODS.

SO WE OFFER THAT THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE DAYS A WEEK, I MEAN, 365 DAYS A YEAR, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND WE HAVE TWO STAFF THAT ARE ON THAT BUS PROVIDING SECURITY ON THAT BUS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. AND YOUR PARKING WHERE SO THE BUS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PARKED IN INDIAN RIVER. THE STAFF WILL PICK IT UP, DRIVE IT TO PALM BAY.

THERE'S FOUR PICKUP LOCATIONS HERE IN PALM BAY.

ONE IS THE SUNOCO GAS STATION ON MALABAR ROAD.

THE SECOND ONE IS AT WAL-MART ON MALABAR ROAD.

THEN IT SWINGS AROUND AND GOES TO THE 7-ELEVEN ON PALM BAY ROAD.

AND THEN IT SWINGS DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN PALM BAY ROAD IN BABCOCK AS THEIR FINAL DESTINATION. AND THEN IT REST AT THE WHERE THEY SAVE A LOT.

PARKING LOT USED TO SAVE A LOT USED TO BE RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF BABCOCK.

SO THEY'LL BE THERE FROM 9:00 P.M.

TO 7:00 A.M.

EVERY SINGLE, EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

AND MY LAST QUESTION IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE ALTHOUGH SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY OR THIS? YEAH, YEAH.

SO AGAIN, WE STARTED OUR FIRST ONE, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

THAT BUS WE STARTED IN MARCH AND 2021.

WE HAD OVER 2000 SLEEPS SINCE MARCH, WITH OVER ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE UNIQUE, DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE POLICE CALL.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY TRUANCY OR OF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, BRINGING DRUGS ONTO THE BUS.

THE BUS IS OPEN TO MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN.

WE'VE HAD PETS ON THE BUS.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS HAS STAYED ON THE BUS, INCLUDING MYSELF.

WHEN WE LAUNCHED THAT BUS, WE'VE GOTTEN INQUIRIES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO LAUNCH ONE IN FLINT, MICHIGAN.

WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO LAUNCH ONE IN VANCOUVER, CANADA.

AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO LAUNCH ONE IN WEST PALM BEACH.

BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, HOMELESSNESS IS A PANDEMIC IN ITSELF, RIGHT? WE JUST CAME UP WITH A UNIQUE NICHE ON HOW WE CAN SERVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING PROCESS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. IF IT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL IDEA VERSUS YOU SEEING IT? YEAH. WELL, NO, THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, BUT WE DID IT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET INSIDE OF A BUILDING BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE LOOPHOLES THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SLEEP.

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SO THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING JOURNEY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

BUT IN THE APPLICATION, IT SAYS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FIVE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FORTY SLEEPS IN THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE DAYS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER, IF YOU HAD TO PAY FOR A HOTEL ROOM FOR FIVE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FORTY PEOPLE, THAT'S FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHT, FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR, RIGHT? SO THIS BUS THAT WE PRODUCED, WE ACTUALLY PRODUCED IT WITH NO GOVERNMENT FUNDING, FEDERAL FUNDING. WE'VE DONE IT ALL BASED ON PRIVATE DONATIONS AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTY.

WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THIS BUS TOGETHER FOR FORTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO THE ENTIRE COST OF THE PROJECT IS ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO THOUSAND A YEAR, SO IT PAYS FOR ITSELF FOUR AND A HALF TIMES.

IF YOU HAD TO PAY FOR THAT MANY HOTEL ROOMS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WHEN THE COLD NIGHT SHELTER BURNT DOWN, TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE IN HOTEL ROOMS, JUST HOTELS DON'T EVEN WANT TO DEAL WITH OUR POPULATION.

THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT STUFF.

SO ON THE BUS, IT SAYS DIGNITY BUS AWAY TO THE VILLAGE.

AND I'M PROUD TO SAY TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, WE PURCHASED A PROPERTY AND SEBASTIAN CALLED PELICAN COTTAGES.

IT'S NINETEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ABLE TO TRANSFER FROM THE BUS INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BECAUSE THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO MOVE YOU FROM TRANSITIONAL INTO PERMANENCY.

THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME APPLYING FOR A GRANT IN THE CITY.

THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME TO ANY FEDERAL FUNDING, ANY GRANT FUNDING AT ALL.

OK, THANK YOU. YEP.

YES, SIR. ONE QUESTION AND THIS PERTAINS TO ITEM D, SO OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN CONSISTS OF, YOU KNOW, THE TOP PRIORITIES WAS ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN, BATTERED AND ABUSED SPOUSES, YOU KNOW, CRIME AWARENESS, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, YOUTH SERVICES.

AND THEN YOU SCROLL BACK UP TO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO.

DESCRIPTION OF TARGETED CLIENTELE, YOU SAY HOMELESS, BUT THEN YOU IF YOU CAN KIND OF ELABORATE BECAUSE YOU DO ELABORATE AND SAY SENIORS, VETERANS, VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. YEAH, WE DON'T.

WE DON'T DISCRIMINATE FROM ANYBODY.

ANYBODY NEEDS A BED.

WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

SO IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, WE HAVE PLACES FOR JUST SINGLE WOMEN.

WE HAVE PLACES FOR SINGLE MEN, WE HAVE PLACES FOR FAMILIES, OUR POPULATION THAT WE SERVE, THAT MANY OF US SERVE WILL NOT FIT THAT POPULATION.

AS YOU GUYS HEARD WITH PRESENTATIONS BEFORE, THERE'S INCOME QUALIFICATIONS, THERE'S BACKGROUND CHECKS, THERE'S ALL OF THESE THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO GET A BED.

WE ELIMINATE ALL OF THOSE THINGS FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO STAY.

OK, SO THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, SAFETY.

YEAH. SO WE PROVIDE TO STAFF EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

WE ACTUALLY TAKE TEMPERATURES FOR COVID.

WE ACTUALLY DISINFECT AND CLEAN THE BUS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

SO THE BUS WILL GO BACK DOWN TO OUR SOCIAL SERVICE CENTER AND WE HAVE STAFF THAT WILL TAKE THE LINENS APART, TURN IT ALL OVER AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS CLEANED EVERY SINGLE NIGHT BEFORE IT ARRIVES BACK HERE IN PALM BAY.

THE LAST THING FOR SAY YOU HAVE GOING BACK TO THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN, SAY YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH ABUSED OR NEGLECTED CHILDREN OR BATTERED AND ABUSED SPOUSES.

YOU KNOW THEY THEY SLEEP THERE.

THEY FEEL SAFE FOR THE NIGHT.

IS THERE A NEXT STEP FORWARD OR YEAH.

SO EVENTUALLY OUR OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND TO EVENTUALLY HAVE A SOURCE SERVICE CENTER UP HERE.

OUR CENTER DOWN IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY PROVIDES MEALS, SHOWERS, LAUNDRY EDUCATION, AA MEETINGS, BIBLE STUDIES, ART THERAPY.

WE HAVE ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS TO TRY TO MOVE PEOPLE FORWARD.

WE'RE ONLY HERE TO JUST JUMP INTO PALM BAY BECAUSE THERE'S A NEED FOR EMERGENCY SHELTERING IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING.

LIKE, YOU NEED A CONTACT, SOME OF THE OTHER.

SAY THAT AGAIN. I JUST SAID I WAS JUST SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES TO SEE HOW WE CAN EXPEND SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT'S NEEDED.

UM, I HAD A QUESTION SINCE, YEAH, THAT IT WAS YOUR FIRST TIME WORKING WITH FEDERAL FUNDING. HOW ARE YOU CONFIDENT WITH THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS? YEAH, I ACTUALLY HAVE MY GRANT WRITER HERE.

SHE'S PROBABLY LOOKING TO GET UP AS WELL BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING SOME HURTING ON THEM, THE CHAIRS OVER THERE. BUT YEAH, WE HAVE A GRANT WRITER AS WELL.

WE HAVE A FULL ACCOUNTING TEAM.

THE GROWTH OF THE SOURCE HAS BEEN ASTRONOMICAL.

OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IT WAS A STANDARD SOUP KITCHEN.

IT HAS EVOLVED INTO RESTAURANT STYLE DINING.

IT'S THE ONLY ONE IN THE TREASURE COAST WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND GET SEATED AND SERVED AND WAITED ON AND GET TRAINED BY INDIVIDUALS IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY TO PUT THEM BACK TO WORK. SO THAT HAS GROWN INTO WE HAVE A FOOD TRUCK BUSINESS CALLED DIGNITY FOODS. WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT FUNDING FROM AN ORGANIZATION CALLED IMPACT ONE HUNDRED,

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WHERE IT WAS 100 WOMEN THAT CONTRIBUTED $1000, AND WE WON THAT GRANT FOR OUR FIRST FOOD TRUCK THAT THAT GRANT TURNED INTO A SECOND FOOD TRUCK.

EACH ONE OF OUR FOOD TRUCKS GENERATE ABOUT $200000 IN REVENUE.

SO WE'RE LAUNCHING OUR THIRD FOOD TRUCK IN JULY OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO.

SO THEN THAT TURNED INTO A CATERING BUSINESS, THEN THAT TURNED INTO THE MOBILE BUSSES, THEN THAT TURNED INTO DIGNITY VILLAGE.

SO ALL OF THIS IS DONE BY PRIVATE DONORS, INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HOPEFULLY, WE JUST DID A SOME MEDIA PR WITH FLORIDA TODAY, AND BREVARD SHOULD COME OUT FRIDAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LAUNCHING IN BREVARD AND HOPEFULLY THE CITIZENS OF BREVARD WILL GET BEHIND IT AND SUPPORT IT.

I HAVE TO SAY I WAS AT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE MEETING THEY DID LAST YEAR TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS, AND YOU SPOKE AND GAVE A PRESENTATION AND SHOWED THE BUS AND IT REALLY IS FASCINATING AND I HAVE TO COMMEND YOU FOR TAKING AN IDEA IN AND OUT OF THE BOX APPROACH TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM THAT'S IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I COMMEND YOU FOR WHAT YOU.

I MEAN, WE BELIEVE THAT THE SINGLE MOST REASON FOR HOMELESSNESS IS A SEVERE, CATASTROPHIC LOSS OF FAMILY. WE BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU START TO DOVE INTO THAT RIGHT AND YOU DOVE INTO THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT'S IT'S A IT'S A LOSS OF COMMUNITY AND THE SOURCE IS NOT GOING TO FIX THIS BY ITSELF.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY TO COME AROUND AND DO THAT AND TO FIX THAT.

AND WE'RE JUST BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO JUST DO ONE LITTLE SMALL PIECE OF IT AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU SEE DIGNITY BUS IT HAD, THE FIRST ONE HAS A BIG OLD PICTURE OF JESUS ON THE SIDE OF IT.

WE ARE A CHRISTIAN MINISTRY.

WE DON'T SHY AWAY FROM WHO WE ARE.

THE FIRST THE FIRST BUS HAS A CAUCASIAN JESUS ON THE FRONT OF IT.

THE SECOND BUS HAD A AFRICAN-AMERICAN JESUS ON THE SIDE OF IT.

AND WHEN INDIVIDUALS ASKED US WHY WE DID THAT AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT IN SCRIPTURE, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE ALL CREATED IN HIS IMAGE AND THAT WE WILL PUT DIFFERENT FACES ON EVERY BUS THAT GOES INTO THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE'RE ALL IN THIS THING TOGETHER.

IT'S NOT JUST DEDICATED TO ONE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL.

SO HOPEFULLY, I ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS THERE, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, NOT FOR HIM, JUST IN GENERAL, HOW DO WE SCORE? H, IF THEY'VE NOT RECEIVED FUNDING FROM YOU IN THE PAST, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR PAST PERFORMANCE? YES.

SO PAST PERFORMANCE IS YOU CAN DO NEGATIVE 10 UP TO POSITIVE 10.

SO FOUR. SO WHEN WE HAD OUR.

SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY JUST A ZERO, BECAUSE YOU.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CHANGED THE PAST PERFORMANCE FROM 15 POINTS TO THE CURRENT ONE. IT IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO PENALIZE AGENCIES WHO HAD NEVER RECEIVED FUNDING AND HAVE THEM FOGGING UP.

SO THEY HAVE TO GET A ZERO.

YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN AS WE DISCUSSED THAT SOME OF THE OTHER MEETINGS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE WERE THERE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE FAIRLY NEW IS IT WAS NEGATIVE 10.

IF SAY THEY THEY'VE HAD PRESS, THEY'VE HAD PAST PERFORMANCE, BUT IT WAS NEGATIVE.

AND THEN IF THEY HAVE PAST PERFORMANCE AND THEY EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS, SO IT KIND OF THIS SCORING KIND OF PUT AGENCIES ON A MORE EVEN LEVEL AND IT DIDN'T PENALIZE THOSE WHO ARE NEW. THAT MAKES YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAD PRIOR, WE HAD NEW AGENCIES THAT HAD LIKE SPECTACULAR IDEAS OR GREAT IDEAS.

BUT THEN YOU HAD AGENCIES WHO'VE BEEN THERE, SO THEY AUTOMATICALLY HAVE AN EXTRA ADDITIONAL POINTS JUST FOR BEING THERE WHEN THESE NEW AGENCIES ARE PENALIZED.

AND THERE WAS A BIG DISPARITY BECAUSE OF IT.

SO HERE, IF THERE IS A NEW AGENCY THERE, JUST START AT SCRATCH AND YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT. SO IT'S YES, IT BE.

YOU COULD POSSIBLY GET NEGATIVE.

10, SO LET'S SAY. SO IF AN AGENCY? SO YEAH, IF YOU HAVE AN AGENCY WHO DID REALLY, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T MEET ALL THEIR GOALS, DIDN'T SPEND ALL THEIR FUNDS, THEY HAD LOTS OF FINDINGS THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO IN A MONITORING THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THROUGH TO SATISFY THROUGH A CORRECTIVE ACTION.

THEN YOU WOULD TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION IF AN AGENCY EXCEEDED, THEY SPENT THEIR FUNDS QUICKER, THEY EXPENDED MORE FUNDS AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE THEN YOU WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

BUT IT DOES, LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID, IT DOES ALLOW NEW AGENCIES TO HAVE A MORE FAIR CHANCE OF GETTING FUNDED VERSUS AN AGENCY WHO WAS JUST DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT IT'S BEEN FUNDED FOREVER.

SO IT WAS REALLY JUST TO TRY AND CREATE MORE EQUITY.

THEN TO JUST REMIND ME, SAKURABA HAS NEVER HAD FUNDING BEFORE.

CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT.

I BELIEVE YOU ASKED EARLIER HOW MUCH FUNDING REQUESTS WE HAD, IT WAS A HUNDRED NOW THAT I HAVE MY COMPUTER PULLED UP.

WE HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS IN FUNDING REQUEST AND

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ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY NINE DOLLARS TO ALLOCATE. NOW THAT IS JUST AN ESTIMATE.

WE ARE STILL WAITING AND USUALLY IT'S AROUND THE MARCH TIMEFRAME WHERE WE WILL GET OUR FUNDING ALLOCATION LETTER FROM HUD THAT TELLS US EXACTLY HOW MUCH FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. THIS IS BASED ON OUR CURRENT YEAR FUNDING.

IT COULD FLUCTUATE.

IT DOESN'T FLUCTUATE A WHOLE LOT, BUT IF IT DOES, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE CAP OF 15 PERCENT.

WE'RE NOT GOING OVER THAT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES OR THE 20 PERCENT FOR ADMINISTRATION, SO IT COULD GO UP AND DOWN. BUT THIS IS THE MOST ACCURATE NUMBER WE HAVE AT THIS TIME, AND THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD WITH ALL JURISDICTIONS.

SO CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SPACE COAST CULTURAL ARTS AND BUSINESS ORGANIZATION.

YES. HEY.

EVENING. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE HERE.

SO FIRST OFF, THANK YOU, THANK YOU GUYS FOR JOINING US AND APPLYING AGAIN.

SO YOU DEFINITELY MEET FOR THE FOUR DECONSOLIDATION CONSOLIDATED PLAN CONSISTENCY PRIORITIES. ONE OF THEM WAS YOUTH SERVICES, SO THIS MEETS THAT.

BUT I WAS I WANTED TO ASK IF YOU CAN ELABORATE.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT 10 YOUTH, CORRECT? I ACTUALLY USE THESE ARE 18 PLUS.

OK, 10 YOUNG ADULTS.

THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO.

10. 10 YOUNG YOUNG ADULTS, ROUGHLY 50000.

I'M LOOKING AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

LIKE WHAT YOU SAY, I THINK IT WAS 80 PERCENT GRADUATION RATE, MOSTLY AT MINIMUM.

AND WHAT TYPE OF JOBS ARE WE LOOKING AT? YOU KNOW, ARE WE LOOKING AT L3 HARRIS OR NORTHROP GRUMMAN OR SO EVEN FROM OUR PILOT? YEAH, FROM OUR PILOT PROGRAM, ONE OF THE PALM BAY RESIDENTS, LETICIA.

SHE ACTUALLY GOT A JOB FOR $60000 A YEAR.

SO AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, YEAH, BUT WHAT WE'RE BUILDING IS WE'RE BUILDING WITH THE LOCAL CORPORATIONS BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE MET WITH YOU ALL ABOUT LAST YEAR.

AND SO WE'VE STARTED TO MEET WITH THOSE CORPORATIONS AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF TRACTION.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE THING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HOMEGROWN TALENT STAYS HERE IN THE PALM BAY AREA.

SO, SO THAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

AND I COULD TELL YOU, SINCE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROGRAM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ALL PART OF OUR COUNTY, BUT I'VE HAD FOUR PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH PERSONALLY, ALL GET JOBS OVER SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.

SO JUST IMAGINE PRODUCING THOSE KIND OF RESULTS RIGHT HERE WITH OUR CORPORATIONS RIGHT HERE IN THE SPACE COAST. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND IT WAS A REMOTE POSITION.

SO. SO SHE'S WORKING FROM HOME NCR IS SHE STILL PAYING TAXES HERE? OK. UM, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW.

FOR THOSE. IT DOESN'T I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT AT 100 PERCENT, WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT 20 PERCENT DISPERSED DISPARITY? WHERE DOES THAT COME IN PLAY? LOOK AT THE THE LOGIC MODEL AND ANYTHING THAT WE DO.

OF COURSE WE KNOW.

YEAH, IT'S NOT. WE FINISHED OUR PILOT PROGRAM IN AUGUST, AND SO WE ARE STILL MENTORING WITH TECHBRIDGE.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE GREAT SYSTEM IN PLACE, WE'RE BRINGING THAT SYSTEM FROM ATLANTA TO HERE.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO OVER PROMISE.

OUR EXPECTATION IS 100 PERCENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE AND THEN NOT DELIVER, RIGHT? YES. WHICH SO THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING BECAUSE I WANTED CLARIFICATION IF IT WAS BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE NOT HAD THE CAPACITY OR CAPABILITY, OR MAYBE IT WAS THE STUDENT, SOMETHING FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS.

OR IS THIS YOU'RE ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION? YEAH. OK, OK, THEN I'M GOOD.

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT 80 PERCENT IS PRETTY HIGH.

WHAT IS IF IT IS GRADUATION FOR HIGH SCHOOL? IT IS. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION, BUT NO, I THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT REINVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE.

AND WE SEE THE WORKFORCE WHERE JOBS ARE BEGGING PEOPLE TO COME WORK AND YOU'RE PREPARING THEM FOR THAT MOMENT, YOU KNOW? RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE CASE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, BECAUSE THEIR EMPLOYERS, EMPLOYERS ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS. SO WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE WITH THIS KIND OF A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

AND AGAIN, I'VE STATED THIS BEFORE.

WE'RE JUST AT THE BEGINNING AND WE THINK OF THIS TECH INDUSTRY.

IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD HERE IN THIS AREA.

SO LET'S GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT.

THEY'LL ASK ABOUT CAPACITY AS WELL TO WORK WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDS.

YES. WE ARE NOT WORKING ALONE, AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT, IS THAT TECHBRIDGE IS A WONDERFUL PARTNER.

ANYTHING WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE HELPING TO MENTOR US THROUGH THAT.

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WE HAVE WRITTEN OTHER GRANTS, LOCAL GRANTS, NOT SO MUCH FEDERAL, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR PACKAGE THAT WE SUBMITTED EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUESTED WAS IN THERE.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M A GOOD, PRETTY GOOD ORGANIZER.

SO I CAN READ, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FORMS ARE ASKING US TO DO AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED.

YES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE CAPACITY.

I HAVE A MASTER'S IN BUSINESS AND BEEN DOING BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME AND AND BEEN RUNNING AN ORGANIZATIONS FOR A LONG TIME.

SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

SO BE HANDLING IT IN-HOUSE LOCALLY.

RIGHT, RIGHT. WE DO HANDLE OUR IN-HOUSE, WE DO WORK WITH AN ACCOUNTING FIRM WHO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE OUR BOOKS ARE UP TO STANDARDS AND THEY AUDIT OUR BOOKS.

SO. SO YEAH, WE WE HAVE HELP WITH THAT.

UM, AS I KNOW, I MEAN, I READ THROUGH EVERYTHING HERE, AND I'M EXCITED FOR THE POSSIBILITIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE JUST GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THEIR ONLY JOB OPTIONS DON'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, I START A FAST FOOD PLACE.

THERE IS I CAN GO WITH TRAINING, I CAN GO RIGHT INTO A HIGH TECH JOB ONLY TO CLIMB FURTHER. SO. AND IT'S LOCAL.

SO THAT'S YES.

AND IT'S NO COST TO THE PARTICIPANT.

SO LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW IN TECHNOLOGY AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT BECAUSE IT IS A SITUATION WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T GO ON TO COLLEGE OR GOING TO BECAUSE OF COST, BECAUSE THE COST TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S A GIFT. YES.

THAT'S THE KEY. THANK YOU.

I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. A QUESTION FOR POWELL.

OK, MARK. RUFUS WILLIAMS, PRESIDENT RIGHT OF MALCOLM POWELL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MARTINA JONES IS THERE.

UMM, THANK YOU.

OF COURSE, WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE POWELL BACK AGAIN.

YEAH, THE DEADLINE LAST TIME IT WAS TOTALLY ON US, YOU KNOW, SO WE MADE SURE WE WEREN'T GOING TO MISS IT THIS TIME. OK, PERFECT.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. THAT WAS ONE THING HERE.

IT SAID THERE WAS A $2800 OTHER IN YOUR BUDGET.

AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WE SUBMIT IT TO WHICH ONE ARE YOU SPEAKING OF THERE, IN FACT. LET ME GET MY FORM.

THIS IS CURRENTLY FOR THE FISCAL, THE CDBG, TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE FISCAL APPLICATIONS.

OH, OK, SO THAT'S NOT THE ONE.

AND THE 20 800 OTHER YEAH, YEAH, SO FOR THE MENTORING TYPES OF THINGS, WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO TAKE THE KIDS, DO THINGS WITH THE KIDS INSTEAD OF JUST ALL THE TIME MEETING AT LOCATIONS. SO I JUST PUT THAT THERE AS OTHER, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T COULDN'T SPECIFY WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE.

AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF STANDARD HOW WE DO THE OTHER TYPES OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE MOST OF THE THINGS WE CAN IDENTIFY, BUT IT'S ALWAYS THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT COME UP.

AND THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED IT, BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN I'VE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY VULNERABLE.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE NOT USING IT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON OUR LIST OF OF THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT THAT WAS.

YEAH. YEAH, SO SO ON ON MOST ON THE MENTORING GRANTS, KIND OF THE WAY WE DO IT IS BY THE HEAD AND WE HAVE JUST AN OVERALL ALLOCATION PER HEAD.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE GET A NATIONAL GRANT AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT PER HEAD.

AND SO WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO BREAK IT OUT AND KEEP THAT SEPARATE FROM THIS.

AND SO THAT'S READING. WE'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE BACK AND FORTH.

AND SO A LOT OF THE TIMES, I THINK IN THE WRITE UP I TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE WASHINGTON, D.C. TRIP HAS BEEN CANCELED.

SO IT'S DIFFERENT THINGS WE TRIED TO DO WITH THEM THIS YEAR.

THEY DID IT VIRTUAL.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO DO IT AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION THIS YEAR, SO IT'S STILL OPEN TO OTHER THINGS.

OKAY. OK.

YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS, OK, OH, WELL, ONE MORE QUESTION.

THIS IS FOUR. SO HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE IN REGARDS TO PALM BAY CHILDREN IN MELBOURNE CHILDREN? I GUESS SO, JUST AS WE DID WITH THE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS MENTORING GRANT WITH PALM BAY BEFORE, WE HAVE TO PRODUCE THAT WORKSHEET THAT THE LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT.

PALM BAY ADDRESS IS PALM BAY PEOPLE, AND THIS TIME WHAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON IS TRYING TO DO MORE OF THE ACTIVITIES, EITHER AT LIBRARY OR ACTUALLY COMING TO THE KIDS,

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YOU KNOW, CLOSER.

IN FACT, MARTINA IS NOW APPROVED TO GO INTO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE'RE FINDING THAT THE CLOSER YOU CAN GET TO THE KIDS, EVEN AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO ALL OF THESE KIDS WILL BE PALM BAY KIDS, AND THE THING WE'RE PUSHING FOR IS TO DO IT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND NOT BECAUSE ONE TIME WE HAD MENTORING SLASH SUMMER CAMP AND THE PALM BAY KIDS ACTUALLY CAME IN TO MELBOURNE FOR THE SUMMER CAMP PART.

BUT THIS TIME WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE SUMMER CAMP.

WE'RE TRYING TO PUT KEEP IT STRICTLY MENTORING AND DO THAT, BUT IT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES IN ALL LOCATIONS.

BUT MOST OF THE MEETING WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO HERE AND WORK WITH.

WE'VE ACTUALLY CONTACTED THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON PALM BAY ROAD TO UTILIZE THEM.

THEY SAY IT'S A MEETING ROOM.

THEY GIVE US THE DAYS THAT WE CAN USE THE FEES, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD INTO THIS ALREADY.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A STEP AHEAD OF THE PROCESS OF IT AND GET IT FUNDED.

OK. OR ANY OF THE OTHER.

HMM. WELL, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE A SURPRISE? OK, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE AGENCIES, THEN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY. THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION AMONG YOURSELVES, IF NOT, THEN I WOULD GO AHEAD AND SCORE. AND THEN ONCE ALL THE I RECEIVE ALL THE SCORES, YOU WILL TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE RECESS SO THAT I CAN INPUT EVERYTHING INTO THE TABULATION SHEET AND THEN COME BACK ON RECORD AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE THE SCORES WERE AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS FROM THERE. RUSSIAN.

FIVE MINUTE RECESS, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE.

LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS, I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALMOST AT NINE O'CLOCK ANYWAYS, SO WE CAN RECONVENE AROUND NINE O'CLOCK.

LET ME GO SEE IF I CAN FIND JENNIFER AND ASK HER IF WHAT THE PROPER PROCESS IS FOR HER BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT HER SCORE SHEETS OR NOT.

BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST DEPUTY MAYOR HAS BEEN PRESENT AT THE MEETING, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ON THE PHONE AND THEN I GOT HIS.

IT WASN'T ACTUALLY ON THE SCORESHEET, IT WAS JUST THE NUMBERS AND THE COLUMNS, BUT I WAS ABLE TO GET THE SCORE. JENNIFER, IF WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER WHO'S ON THE PHONE, WHO'S BEEN ATTENDING THE BOARD MEETING ON THE PHONE, BUT SHE CAN'T GET US THE SCORES, BUT SHE'S STILL PRESENT AT THE MEETING. HOW DO WE? CHRISTINA. BUT IT BUT SHE'S AT THE MEETING, BUT WE CAN'T GET HER SCORES, HOW DO WE? IS SHE ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING THEN BECAUSE SHE'S PART OF THE MEETING AND THAT'S.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A MEMBER ON THE PHONE.

SHE WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE BEGINNING, BUT IT WAS SHE HASN'T.

DID SHE PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

SO, OK.

SHE VOTED ON IT. I DO KNOW SHE'S NOT.

SHE'S NOT HERE BECAUSE SHE JUST HAD A BABY, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH.

BUT SHE REQUESTED SHE REQUESTED TO ATTEND THE MEETING OR VIA THE PHONE.

YES, THAT WAS HER REQUEST.

ELAINE, ARE YOU OVER THERE? SHE JUST CAN'T BE USED TO MAKE A QUORUM, I BELIEVE.

THAT'S CORRECT. SHE DID NOT KNOW SHE SHE CAN ATTEND, BUT SHE CAN'T.

SHE CAN'T BE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

SO SHE DID NOT CONSTITUTE THAT.

RIGHT. YES.

OH, HI.

HELLO. SO I'M STRUGGLING TO HEAR YOU A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M WORKING WITH WHAT I GOT HERE.

OK, SO YOU SAID THAT YOU CAN'T GET THE SCORES? TO US. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY, I GOT EVERY OTHER WORD.

SO WHAT'S THE CONCERN ABOUT GETTING THE SCORES TO US OR WHAT'S THE ELENA SAID THAT YOU HAD A PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE SCORES.

I DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO PRINT IT, SO I'M WORKING ON EMAILING IT NOW.

OK, SO YOU CAN EMAIL US THIS COURSE.

THAT WAS THE ONLY DILEMMA.

I DIDN'T HAVE A WAY OF PRINTING IT AND SCANNING IT OVER.

OK, SO EMAIL IS FINE BECAUSE THEN THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

OK, THEN EMAIL WILL BE FINE.

SO. YEAH. HELLO.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEN I THINK THAT WE CAN JUST TAKE A FORMAL RECESS FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES AT THIS TIME. COULD WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHER STUFF AND THEN.

YES. YEAH, CAN WE BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER THINGS ON HERE, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NONPUBLIC SERVICE REQUEST, YOU CAN DO THAT.

WHY I TABULATE THIS.

I'LL DO MY BEST TO MULTITASK.

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THE TABULATING OR SOMETHING.

I'M. THANK GOD THERE'S ONLY THREE FUNDING REQUESTS, SO AND TWO OF THEM ARE FROM PARKS AND FACILITIES, AND THE DIRECTOR, GREG MINOR, IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

DON'T THINK SO, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY JUST HAD.

NO, THAT I KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH TURNOVER WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR POSITION.

OH, OF COURSE. THE PALACE SUBDIVISION, YES, SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO DO APPRAISALS AT THE PRESENT MOMENT.

IF IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IN THE PROJECT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EASEMENTS.

IT'S. OK.

ON THE FLOODED PROPERTIES.

OK. YEAH. AND YOU SAY, PAL.

YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY IT IS THE PALACE OF DIVISION, ALSO KNOWN AS THE DRISKEL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THEY'RE THE NAMES ARE SYNONYMOUS.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON DOCUMENTS WITH THOSE AND I THINK THOSE WENT THROUGH.

THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NOTHING PENDING ON THAT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK. YEAH.

YEAH. NO, THERE WAS DEFINITELY YEAH.

I CAN TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ALL OF THEIR NAMES, BUT I DO RECALL THAT.

I'M SORRY YOU'RE CONFIRMING THAT THEY DID ACQUIRE THE LOTS THAT THEY GOT THE OH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE CLOSED.

THEY HAVE NOT. THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING THE APPRAISALS AND THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, BUT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING APPRAISALS. SO NO LAND HAS BEEN ACQUIRED AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT.

RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.

I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT YET.

I KNOW WE HAD A MEETING VIRTUALLY WITH THE OWNER, THREE TO ONE DEVELOPERS, BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THERE'S NO CONTRACT.

IT STILL HAS TO COMPLETE. IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL AND IT STILL HAS TO OFFER AND WHATNOT SIGNED OFF ON IT.

PROBABLY THEY MAY HAVE.

THEY HAVE NOT TOLD ME IF THERE'S OFFERS ON THERE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PENDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND PENDING THE APPRAISALS.

RIGHT? IF YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO, JENNIFER, SO SO ONE.

SO JUST ONE QUESTION I HAVE.

I'M GOOD WITH SUPPORTING THIS, BUT JUST AS FOLLOW UP COULD STAFF EMAIL ALL YOU KNOW, LIKE WE RECEIVE THE EMAILS FOR THE APPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE STAFF FOLLOW UP WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO EMAIL US UPDATE.

JUST SO WE KNOW GOING FORWARD OR IT'S ALSO ON MY STAFF REPORT, I THINK I GIVE SOME KIND OF INFORMATION ON WHERE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU I CAN EMAIL THE BOARD A MORE DETAILED YEAH TO THE CHAIR'S POINT.

SO THAT'S ALL. SO I'M GOOD TO TURN IN MY MY SHEET.

PARKS AND REC.

OUR. FROM MY NAME'S GREG MINOR, I'M THE PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WE ALSO HAVE TO TWO PROJECTS WE PUT IN WHICH FOUR VETS PARK AND LIBERTY ARE ACTUALLY THE BOARD FROM PALM BAY YOUTH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING VETS PARK IS ALSO HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

HMM. YEAH. SO I HAD MY QUESTION.

WELL, I HAD A QUESTION FOR REGARDING THE HOCKEY FIELD THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO.

OK? THE HOCKEY RINK IS OVER AT LIBERTY PARK, WHERE IT IS.

IT'S A COMBINATION WHERE THEY TOOK SOME OLD TENNIS COURTS AND MADE A FIELD HOCKEY FACILITY OVER THERE.

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I PUT BANANA ON THE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE COURTS HAVE DETERIORATED AT LIBERTY PARK, WHERE YOU MENTIONED THE FIELD HOCKEY THAT IS GONE FROM THE REPAIR TO REPLACEMENT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S BOTH THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THE TENNIS COURTS.

THERE'S SOME OLD FACILITIES OVER THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WAS PUT INTO.

SO THIS THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THOUSAND THREE FIFTY THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING IS THE SUM COST OF.

TO PUT THIS HOCKEY FIELD, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO TO LEVERAGE BASED ON HOW MUCH? NO. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE WHEN WE'RE AWARDED OUR BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER 1ST, WHEN EACH DEPARTMENT IS AWARDED THEIR BUDGET THROUGH THE YEARS WE PUT IN FOR SIPP PROJECTS. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, OUR WE'RE LIKE EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IS COMPETING FROM FOR OUR MONEY FROM FIRE PD PUBLIC WORKS ALL THE WAY DOWN.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE GET IN OUR BUDGET REALLY DOES ALLOW US TO DO DO SIP PROJECTS IS REALLY MORE DISREPAIR AND MAINTENANCE AND.

HE ALSO AT LIBERTY PARK AND VETS PARK, YOU KNOW, THE FACILITIES OR OLDER FACILITIES, A LOT OF MONEY HASN'T BEEN PUT INTO THEM THROUGHOUT MANY, MANY YEARS, AND THEY'RE JUST GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY JUST NEED SOME MAJOR REFURBISHMENT AND MAJOR REPLACEMENTS. I THINK YOU REMIND US OF HOW MUCH FUNDS WE HAVE OR NONPUBLIC SERVICE.

NINETY TWO THOUSAND ONE.

OK. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SO BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THREE NINE IF.

IS THIS A SHOVEL READY PROJECT? IF WE. DEBUT, THOUGH, THREE FIFTY NINE.

ARE YOU READY TO GO? THESE PROJECTS COULD BE BE PUT OUT FOR A BIT IMMEDIATELY.

WE'VE GOTTEN ESTIMATES AT VETS PARK AND LIBERTY PARK FOR FOUR RODHAM'S TO BE DONE.

WE HAVE CURRENT ESTIMATES, BUT BUT YOU DO NEED THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THOUSAND TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIBERTY PARK OR LIBERTY LIBERTY.

YES. SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET THE FULL 359, WE GIVE YOU 200000, ARE YOU ABLE TO STILL COMPLETE THE PROJECT? WE COULDN'T COMPLETE IT COMPLETED AT ALL.

THE REASON I PUT IN BOTH PROJECTS LIBERTY PARK MAIN USE OVER THERE WE HAVE.

WE JUST PUT A NEW PLAYGROUND IN.

WE HAVE A BASKETBALL COURT IN THIS FIELD HOCKEY BASKETBALL COURTS USED QUITE EXTENSIVELY DROPPING LEAGUES AND STUFF.

THERE'S ORGANIZED SOFTBALL GROUPS OVER THERE, BUT THE MAIN FOCUS AT THAT PARK, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE USER ORGANIZATION PALM BAY YOUTH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.

AT ANY GIVEN TIME DURING FOOTBALL SEASONS, THEY HAVE IN EXCESS OF TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY KIDS PLAYING IN DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS.

THAT'S PARK THE FOOTBALL FIELD.

THE PRACTICE FIELD IS REALLY IN DIRE NEED OF BEING BEING REDONE COMPLETELY.

I GUESS MY QUESTION, THE REASON I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS THAT WE HAVE 400 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS TOGETHER, YOU'RE ASKING FOR OVER SIX, ALMOST 600 THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND SOMETHING THOUSAND.

AND SO IF I HAD TO PRIORITIZE SINCE IF IT'S NOT THAT YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT YOU CAN LEVERAGE, IF I GIVE YOU TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR VETS, TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR LIBERTY, YOU'RE GOING LIKE, OH YEAH, I CAN GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

SO IF WE HAD TO PRIORITIZE TO FIGURE OUT, DO I GIVE YOU ALL OR NOTHING? MM HMM. RIGHT.

BECAUSE. YES, MA'AM. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OR NOTHING? BASICALLY. NO, NO.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WHATEVER MONIES ARE AVAILABLE.

LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER AT LIBERTY, WE COULD REDO THE BASKETBALL COURT.

WE COULD GET THAT REPLACED AND MAYBE LATER ON FOCUS ON THE THE FIELD HOCKEY.

THAT'S A DEFINED GROUP WHERE VERSUS BASKETBALL COURT, ALL OF THE KIDS USE IT.

SAME THING IS OVER AT VETS PARK.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A MEAN.

IT'S USED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

I MEAN, YOU COULD SPEND THE $200000, WHATEVER ON THE FOOTBALL.

YES, MA'AM. VERY, VERY EASILY.

OK. I MEAN, IF YOU REALLY.

WANTED TO. LIKE ONE OF THESE ELEMENTS.

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MM HMM. BUT LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT, YOU KNOW, UPGRADING THE MULTIPURPOSE.

WELL, ACTUALLY THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE.

YEAH. I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN ONE OF THEIR MAIN PRIORITIES.

OK, THAT'S FINE.

COULD I ASK ABOUT THE THE BATHROOM PORTION OF THE PROJECT? IS THAT JUST.

WELL, CURRENTLY THE RESTROOMS ARE OPERATIONAL, THEY'RE CLEAN, WE KEEP THEM PAINTED.

BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IS IT'S AN OLDER FACILITY AND LIKE RIGHT NOW, YOU GO IN, IT HAS PAINTED CONCRETE FLOORS, A PRODUCT WE CALL HAS LIKE A PLASTIC TYPE COVERING ON THE WALLS. IT'S NOT JUST BARE DRYWALL, THE FIXTURES ARE OLD.

WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IT UP, MODERNIZE IT.

WHAT? LIKE WHAT I PUT ON THE REMODELING OF THE RESTROOMS FOR, AND IT ALSO BENEFITS THE FACILITY SIDE OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A RESTROOM THAT'S COMPLETELY CERAMIC TILE FROM FLOOR TO CEILING, YOU CAN GO IN AND JUST PRESSURE WASH THE ENTIRE FACILITY DOWN.

OLDER FIXTURES ARE IN THERE.

THEY'RE NOT EFFICIENT WHEN IT COMES TO WATER USE.

SAME OLD ELECTRICAL FIXTURES.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IT UP TO A CURRENT STANDARD WHERE NOT ONLY AS THE PUBLIC WOULD BE PROUD TO BE IN THAT SAME AS THE PLAYERS, THE VISITING TEAMS THAT COME AND PLAY FOOTBALL AT THAT SPARK.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UPGRADE THE FACILITIES AND MAKE THEM MORE MODERN, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE AN ADA UPGRADE OR ANYTHING.

NO, IT'S ADA COMPLIANT, BUT WE'RE JUST OK.

YEAH, NO QUESTIONS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK GENERALLY ON THESE THREE THREE ITEMS BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY FUND SO MUCH BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS BEING REQUESTED WHEN WE ONLY HAVE ACTUALLY, I THINK IT IS A MILLION DOLLARS.

YEAH, A MILLION DOLLARS WHEN WE ONLY HAVE FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY THOUSAND.

WELL, I DO WANT BOTH BOTH PARKS AND FACILITY PROJECTS ARE NEED.

BUT I REALLY FEEL THE BIGGEST NEED AND BASED OFF OF OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN IS THE PUBLIC WORKS, ONE WHICH WHICH IS WHY I WANTED THEM HERE TOO.

BUT YOU KNOW.

PARKS AND FACILITIES THAT PROVIDES EVERYBODY A SAFE PLACE TO PLAY AND HAVE FUN, BUT THE LAST THING WE WANT FOR THAT DRISCOLL HEIGHTS AREA IS FLOODED TO BE FLOODED SO THAT SO I JUST I'M JUST SPEAKING OUT LOUD TO THE BOARD BECAUSE I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND.

EVENTUALLY, I THINK WE CAN.

I'M SPEAKING NOW, I'M SPEAKING FROM A COUNSEL STANDPOINT, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COME BEFORE A COUNCIL FOR A GENERAL FUND OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT KEY IS PUBLIC WORKS.

JUST JUST FOR THAT REASON TO MAKE SURE WE, WE PROTECT THEM OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, CAN I ADD SOMETHING? SO I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL.

IF WE KNOW, WE KNOW THAT YOUTH IS A PRIORITY ON OUR LIST.

SO WHEREAS I AGREE AND I KNOW THAT WE DID GIVE FUNDS TO PUBLIC WORKS AND AS FAR AS WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW IF EVERYTHING IS GOING THROUGH.

SO I BELIEVE THERE ARE FUNDS THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS.

BUT I WOULD NOT NEGLECT THE THE YOUTH OVER THERE IS SAYING THAT THE THE THE FIELD NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY REDONE.

AND IF I COULD GIVE FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS TO UPGRADE THE FIELD SO THAT THE KIDS THERE COULD WORK, I WOULD DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK IT TAKES TOO MUCH AWAY.

WE KNOW THE LAND IS ACTUALLY BEING PROCESSED AND I KNOW THE CITY OF POMPEII COULD PROBABLY LEVERAGE FUNDS.

THE PUBLIC WORKS COULD LEVERAGE FUNDS.

BUT I WOULD NOT TAKE $54000 AWAY FROM THE USE OF THE CITY IF WE PUT PRIORITY AS ON OUR LIST, THAT YOUTH IS A PRIORITY.

SO I WOULD.

I MEAN, OF COURSE, WE CAN'T FUND THE ENTIRE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT SOME OF THESE LISTS, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, REBECCA BREAKING DOWN AND SEE WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY FUND. BUT I WOULD NOT LET THEM WALK AWAY WITH ZERO DOLLARS, HOPING, WONDERING IF A PLACE WOULD FLOOD WHEN OUR CHILDREN NEED THE FACILITY.

SO I MEAN.

I THINK MY PRIORITY I AGREE WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR IS THE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT, BUT MY HESITANCY THERE IS HOW FAR ALONG THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS AS KIND OF A COMPROMISE.

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I WAS THINKING MAYBE FUNDING ONE OF THE PARKS PROJECTS AND THEN GIVING THAT REMAINING A HUNDRED OR SO THOUSAND OR WHATEVER IT IS TOWARDS THE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT FOR THEM TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THAT SURVEY WORK AND THE OTHER PRELIMINARY ELEMENTS.

AND THEN WHEN THEY WANT TO GO INTO FULL BLOWN DESIGN, THEY CAN ALWAYS COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR DESIGN.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, HOPEFULLY BE FURTHER ALONG IN THE LAND ACQUISITION PROJECT.

I'M JUST. OR THE LAND ACQUISITION PORTION, I'M JUST A LITTLE NERVOUS THAT THEY HAVEN'T COME FAR ENOUGH ALONG WITH THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION, TO EVEN BE ABLE TO START THE DESIGN WORK AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

AND I THINK MAYBE DO ONE OF THE MAYBE DO THE NINE PARK PROJECT AND THEN ALLOCATE THE REMAINDER TO PUBLIC PARKS.

JUST A SUGGESTION, WOULD THAT SOMETHING IN TERMS OF THE THE CITY OF PARKS AND FACILITIES? WOULD YOU CONSIDER FUNDING ONE PROJECT OVER THE OTHER? OR IF YOU GET THE FUNDS, YOU COULD ALLOCATE IT ACCORDINGLY? OR WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY TELL THEM WHICH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS I WOULD HIS INPUT WOULD BE GREAT, WHICH IF YOU COULD, IF YOU HAD TO PICK ONE.

I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT TIME VETERANS PARK WOULD CARRY PRIORITY, AND I STATE THAT MAINLY DUE TO A CONDITION OF THE PRACTICE FIELD.

AFTER SPEAKING WITH A COUPLE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, THEY HAD SOME INJURIES OUT THERE BECAUSE OF HOW BAD THE FIELD WAS.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE MAINTAIN IT TO OUR BEST ABILITY, IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REDONE.

NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT, I I AGREE WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HOW IMPORTANT THE DRAINAGE IS UP THERE, BUT I ALSO REALIZE YOU DON'T START PUTTING IN DRAINAGE UNTIL YOU'VE GOT THE LAND TO PUT IT IN.

SO AND AT THE SAME TIME, I REALIZE THAT ON THESE PARKS, MONEY CAN BE SPENT AND WE IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO SEE RESULTS IN BENEFITS.

SO I WOULD LIKE A SOLUTION TO BE WHERE THE MONEY GETS SPLIT AND WHERE YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD DECIDE.

LET'S SAY WE SPLIT THE MONEY IN HALF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD DECIDE WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE MONEY THAT COMES IN, MAYBE SOMETHING IN ONE PARK AND SOMETHING IN ANOTHER PARK.

AND THEN THE BALANCE OF THE MONEY WOULD GO TO PUBLIC WORKS HERE WITH PARKS AND REC.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM PUBLIC WORKS, BUT AND I AGREE WITH REBECCA THAT IS SORT OF FRUSTRATING TO TALK ABOUT COMING UP WITH DESIGNS FOR DRAINAGE WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN ACQUIRED THE LAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE.

SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

I BELIEVE IF WE WERE GOING TO SPLIT THE TWO PROJECTS APART THAT THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WOULD BE THE PRACTICE FIELD UPGRADE.

AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING AT LIBERTY PARK, WE COULD DO THE.

DO THE BASKETBALL COURT, WOULD YOU RATHER INSTEAD OF FUNDING ALL OF ONE PARK, WOULD YOU RATHER? YOU LIKE BOTH PARKS, BUT DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAN WHAT'S IN IT, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ELEMENTS, I BELIEVE, TO BE THE FAIREST TO TO TO TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY, THAT WOULD BE THE FAIREST WAY OF DOING IT.

I'M WITH THAT.

I KNOW. I KNOW WE GOT IT. SHE GOT TO TABULATE THE SCORES, BUT AFTER THAT, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU.

SO THOUGH, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE, I'M ONLY WAITING, I'VE GOT ALL THE PUBLIC SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE CDBG TABULATED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MISS FREIGHT, I BELIEVE ALEENA IS WORKING ON GETTING THOSE VERBALLY.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT SHE CAN GET US AS SCORES.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO START TABULATING THE ONES FOR THE NONPUBLIC SERVICES AND THEN IF YOU WANT, WE COULD GO, WE CAN EITHER.

WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE OTHER ONES BEFORE CONTINUING OR JUST CONTINUE ON, AND LIKE I SAY, WE CONTINUE ON. GO FOR IT.

SO NOW, WAIT, IT'S ONLY YOU, CHAIR.

OH, NO, THAT'S OK. DO WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE CV? OK, SO NOW WE'RE ALL ON TO THREE.

DID ANYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THE CV THREE APPLICANTS? OH, YES, SIR. GO BACK.

CAN ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SPEAK ON VETERANS PART SINCE WE HAVE A FEW OF THEM? OH, DID WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE WERE READY TO APPROVE IT, SO I DIDN'T.

[02:55:02]

OK. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WE GOT YOU ALL YOU NODDING AND.

OK, SO, STEVE, THREE.

WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THESE APPLICANTS, THIS IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCY.

LET ME JUST A SECOND THIS ONE FOR MISS HERB AND WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT BEING REQUESTED? UM, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY IN AN UNUSUAL SITUATION, WE HAVE A FUNDING REQUEST OF ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR, JUST OVER A HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND, BUT WE HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TO ALLOCATE.

SO IF WE DON'T ALLOCATE ALL THIS FUNDING, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT OUT ANOTHER RFA.

IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE USED ONLY FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, SO WE CAN.

THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN TRY AND STAFF CAN TRY AND WORK INDIVIDUALLY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE USE THAT THE CITY HAS A PRIORITY FOR.

THAT'S NOT PUBLIC SERVICES, OR WE CAN PUT IT OUT AGAIN FOR RFA FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS FUNDING THAT WE CAN GIVE MORE THAN.

IS IT IF? YES, SO WE YES, A KV, SO CV THREE, SO THE PUBLIC SERVICE, 15 PERCENT CAP IS WAIVED. SO WE REQUESTED IT'S AROUND ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND, BUT WE HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND, SO THAT'LL BE A 50000.

YEAH. OK.

SO WHAT HAPPENED? AND I'M SPEAKING MORE FOR I DON'T KNOW WHO IS ALL REALLY.

I KNOW IT'S IN MY MEMO, BUT WE WERE ORIGINALLY BACK IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR.

WE HAD ACTUALLY ALREADY ALLOCATED ALL OF S.V.

FUNDING. IN JUNE, IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND IT WAS APPROVED.

EVERYBODY HAD A START DATE OF JULY TWENTY ONE, SO ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF CIV THREE WAS IN FACT ALLOCATED.

THEN WE HAD AN AGENCY WHO RECEIVED ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SPECIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UM, DUE TO THE CUMBERSOME REQUIREMENTS FOR CDBG, THEIR ON BOARDING.

THEY ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A NOTICE OF TERMINATION AND THEY VOLUNTARILY TERMINATED THEIR AGREEMENT WITHOUT SPENDING ANY OF THE FUNDS.

SO THAT PUT THE CITY IN A POSITION WHERE IT HAD ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ROUGHLY THAT WE HAD TO NOW REALLOCATE THAT WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER AGENCY. SO WE CAN IT'S UP TO THE BOARD WHO THEY WANT TO FUND, HOW I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND NECESSARILY GIVING THEM. MORE, YOU GET KIND OF A TRICKY SITUATION IF YOU TRY AND DO THAT.

AND SINCE WE HAVE ABOUT FORTY FIVE THOUSAND FORTY SIX THOUSAND, THAT'S UN ALLOCATED, WE WOULD JUST PUT THAT OUT AGAIN.

AND THEN FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS, THE RFA IS ALREADY WRITTEN.

I THINK THAT'S WE CAN.

WE ALSO NOTE THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE MISSING A COUPLE FORMS THAT PROBABLY WOULD REAPPLY IF THEY HAD, YEAH, IF THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.

YES. AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT AGENCY GET TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THE AGENCY COMMUNITY OF HOPE THEY HAD ACTUALLY SUBMITTED UNDER CDBG AND CDBG CV BY WHAT THEY WERE FUNDING FOR WAS ACTUALLY A PUBLIC SERVICE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO RESUBMIT UNDER A PUBLIC SERVICE AGREEMENT BECAUSE WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR WAS NOT A NONPUBLIC SERVICE, BUT I WOULD REQUIRE MANDATORY TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR ANY AGENCY RECEIVING FUNDING.

OK, THEN I THINK, UM, I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR ONE APPLICANT, BUT I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY BE BEST IF WE JUST IF WE DO DECIDE AS A BOARD, WE FUND THEM ALL AND THEN PUT IT BACK OUT. SO CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA CHILD HEALTH PROGRAM, IF THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF COVID.

WHEN THAT REQUESTED A CONTRACT.

AND. YES, I ASK A QUESTION OF ONE OF THE APPLICANTS.

YES, ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HERE FOR.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CBGB THREE ZONE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OK. SHE'S KEEPING ME ON TRACK.

THE BOVARD ALZHEIMER'S FOUNDATION.

YOU FOR BEING SO PATIENT AND STAYING.

YES. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SERVICE THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING. WHAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT SCOTT IS ALREADY PROVIDING? BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DO THE SAME SERVICE AND PICK UP AND DELIVERY.

SO I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO GIVE ME WHAT WHAT YOU GUYS DO DIFFERENT.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T ACTUALLY, I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH SCOTT SERVICE, ONLY REALLY PARTICULARLY OURS.

SO I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE PROCESS OF BEING 18 OR OLDER, AND YOU MUST BE EITHER SENIOR

[03:00:07]

CITIZEN OR HAVE NOT ABLE TO HAVE YOUR OWN TRANSPORTATION.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.

LET'S COMPROMISE. I'M SORRY.

OK, THANK YOU.

OH, YES, I THINK I THINK SORRY, WE MAY HAVE ASKED SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT WHEN THEY WERE HERE BEFORE AND, IF I RECALL, DOESN'T GET.

THEIR SERVICES GO WITH GROUPS OF PEOPLE, AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT SOMETIMES WITH THE SCOUT SERVICE, THEY'RE WAITING FOR SOME TIME TO BE PICKED UP FROM THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG YEARS' SERVICE.

I THINK WE HAVE WE HAVE ONE PERSON PER TRANSPORT AND WE TAKE THEM TO ONE APPOINTMENT AND THEN THE DRIVER WAITS FOR THAT ONE PERSON.

WHEREAS SOMETIMES OK, SO IT'S A GROUP PICKED UP BY, YOU KNOW, WE SIT OUTSIDE AND WAIT FOR THEM WHILE THEY'RE. YOU.

THANK YOU, GUYS. I DO HAVE ALL OF THE SCORES TABULATED FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE CDBG. THIS IS FIRST BEFORE, CAN WE LET'S FINISH THIS ONE REAL QUICK, AND THEN WE'LL. AT ONE.

UM. AND I'M JUST I KNOW WE'RE FEELING EVERYTHING OUT, I'M SORRY, BUT EVEN AFTER WE FILL EVERYTHING OUT, I THINK IT'LL BE I THINK WE SHOULD FUND.

BULLY BOVARD OUT, ALZHEIMER'S FOUNDATION, GREATER MELBOURNE PAL AND SPACE COAST CULTURAL ARTS AND BUSINESS ORGANIZATION.

SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.

SO I THINK THOSE FOUR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HERE, THEY'VE THEY'VE SHOWN WHAT THEY NEED TO GET DONE FOR. OH, THREE, OH, OH, OK.

SORRY IT LATE, THOSE THREE HAVE SHOWN WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THE FUNDS AND EVERYTHING, SO I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THOSE THREE.

THE FOURTH I I CAN'T I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE DO IT.

SO I'M CONCERNED WITH THAT ONE THAT THEY REQUESTED A CONTRACT EXTENSION AND HAVE NOT EXTENDED EXPENDED THEIR FUNDS.

AND YET THEY'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO ADD ON THAT THIS IS CV THREE MONEY.

SO JUST LOOKING OUT TO YOU GUYS IN THE AUDIENCE, REALLY MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE TYING THAT TO THE COVID IMPACT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GET TO THE END OF YOUR PROGRAM AND NOT BE REIMBURSED FOR SOME REASON BECAUSE IT WASN'T TRACKED PROPERLY OR YOU DON'T HAVE THAT DIRECT TIE TO COVER.

THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT WITH THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF FUNDING.

I WILL SPEAK TO THAT IN STATE THAT I DO GIVE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO AGENCIES AT THE BEGINNING OF A CONTRACT PERIOD.

SO THAT WILL BE THE SAME THING WITH WITH ALL OF THEM, WHETHER THEY'VE ALREADY HAVE A CV CONTRACT OR THEY'RE REQUESTING NEW FUNDS, ALL THE AGENCIES WILL GET TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

I GO OVER THE GRANT AGREEMENT, THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OF THE NEWER AGENCIES I TRY AND GO MORE INTO.

I'LL BE GOING MORE INTO DEPTH ON THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENT, THE POLICIES, PROCEDURES, THINGS TO EXPECT. I ALSO GO OVER THE MONITORING REPORTS.

I ACTUALLY GIVE A COPY OF MY MONITORING REPORTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CONTRACT PERIOD.

SO THERE ARE NO.

SURPRISES AS TO WHAT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR WHEN I COME OUT TO MONITOR THEM, BUT I'LL PROBABLY BE REQUESTING A LOT MORE INFORMATION EVEN BEFORE THE CONTRACTS, OR IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AGENCIES HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF SUCCEEDING, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE NEW AGENCY. I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE WORK YOU DO, BECAUSE I DO WORK IN OTHER COUNTIES AND YOU GUYS ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS INVESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THAT IN EVERY CITY THAT WE WORK IN.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WAS HERE TO HELP YOU.

SO PLEASE. YES, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE THIS IN EVERY CITY.

SO SHE'S SHE'S HERE TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE SET UP FOR SUCCESS.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE USE HER.

HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANY? AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION ON THAT ONE.

WE NEED TO TALLY THEM, NEED THE TALLY SCORES FOR THE LAST ONE, OR WE CAN JUST RECEIVE THREE. YEAH, I'LL STILL COLLECT THEM, BUT IF IT'S THE CONSENSUS, THEN YOUR SCORE SHEETS SHOULD REFLECT.

OR BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU SCORE, I MEAN, ACTUALLY, YES, IF I COULD GET YOUR SCORE SHEETS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S JUST FOR DUE DILIGENCE PURPOSES.

YES. YES.

WALK, THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. AND SHE'S A ROCK STAR OVER THERE.

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.

IF YOU.

YOU SAY YOU HAD THE SCORES FOR THE FIRST ONE? YES, I DO. OK.

WE'RE READY.

OK, SO NO, THE FIRST THE HIGHEST RANKED ONE WITH A GROUP TOTAL OF SIX HUNDRED WAS I AM MINISTRIES. THE SECOND ONE WITH FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT WITH SOUTH BREVARD WOMEN'S CENTER. THE THIRD ONE WAS WITH FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY WAS GREATER.

MELBOURNE POWELL, NUMBER FOUR WITH FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR WITH FAMILY PROMISE OF BOVARD. AND FIVE WAS WITH FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT WITH SPACE CLOSE CULTURAL ARTS AND BUSINESS ORGANIZATION.

SO MY SORRY, I'M TRYING TO LEAN OVER.

I AM MINISTRIES HAS ASKED FOR FIFTY THOUSAND POUNDS, PROVIDE WOMEN'S CENTER REQUESTED THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED GREATER MELBOURNE PAL REQUESTS OF TWENTY THREE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FAMILY PROBLEMS TO PROVIDE REQUESTED TWENTY THOUSAND.

SO TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE.

UNDER IN THIRTY TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND YOU HAVE ONE HUNDRED THIRTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY NINE.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO A WALMART.

SO ONE MORE TIME, SO WE HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT FOR THE SOURCE.

SOUTH BOVARD, BUT ONLY A PORTION FOR PAL, I GUESS.

NO, YOU WOULD HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT FOR POWELL.

AND THEN IF YOU SCORED THEM BASED ON THEIR IF YOU IF YOU GAVE THEM ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR FUNDING, WE HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT FOR THE FIRST THREE AND THEN A LITTLE BIT FOR FAMILY PROMISE SINCE THERE.

NO FOR. NO, ACTUALLY, YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE THE TOP THREE OR EIGHT KIDS IN IF FAMILY ONLY PROMISE GOT YOU. SO IF YOU FUNDED THE TOP THREE, YOU WOULD HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND TWELVE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED.

NOW YOU'RE FIFTEEN THOUSAND IS THE CAP.

SO IF YOU HAD ANY UNALLOCATED THAT COULD GO TO NONPROFIT NONPUBLIC SERVICES, OK, WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

OK, I WILL SAY THE SCORE CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD ON SOME ITEMS, BUT.

I WOULD THINK I WOULD THINK WE WOULD FUND THE TOP THREE AND THEN.

WHAT IS THE SURPLUS AMOUNT, A THOUSAND DOLLARS? YES. YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

I CAN GO EITHER WAY WITH THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO THE TOP THREE OF WHO WE GIVE IT TO OR IF WE DIVVY IT UP INDIVIDUALLY, I MEAN EQUALLY.

I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE, SO WE ALSO JUST AWARDED.

HOW UNDER. TWO, THOUGH.

ON. KNOW WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, BUT YEAH, YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[03:10:02]

YES. I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE MOST APPROPRIATE.

SORRY. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. SORRY.

I THINK THE MOST APPROPRIATE WOULD BE JUST THE FUN, THE TOP THREE AND THEN THE REMAINDER SPLIT AMONG THE THREE.

BUT WHATEVER THE BOARD, IF BOARD HAS SOME, SOMEBODY HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA.

I'M I'M DOWN.

WHAT'S THE BALANCE REMAINING? IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS, A THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

I DID WANT TO.

IT'S NOT ON THE ENTITLEMENTS DVD THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, BUT SINCE I KNOW THAT YOU BROUGHT UP PAL GREATER MELBOURNE, THAT THEY HAD BOTH.

I DID HAVE A I WOULD NEED THEM TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE US CLARIFICATION.

THEY ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE THEY SUBMITTED TWO APPLICATIONS.

THEY ACTUALLY DID NOT ANSWER THE COVID QUESTION.

THE THE PREVENT PREPARE AND RESPOND TO FEEDBACK.

THEY HAD ANSWERED THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN PRIORITY QUESTIONS FROM THE TWENTY TO TWENTY THREE CDBG CONTRACT INSTEAD.

SO I WOULD JUST NEED THEM TO COME UP HERE AND GIVE CLARIFICATION ON HOW THEY ARE TYING THEIR PROGRAM TO COVID AND SO THAT THE BOARD CAN ESSENTIALLY HAVE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED FOR THEM AS WELL. ON THIS ITEM OR NOW.

UM, IF IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, IT'S BUT BEFORE YOU FUND CBGB THREE, YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE. THEY WILL HAVE TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO. ARE YOU TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO FUND THEM UNDER ONE OR THE OTHER, YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING THAT DECISION.

YES, I THINK WE'RE ASKING OK, BECAUSE I ALSO THINK THAT THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AS WELL. IS SOMEBODY STILL HERE FROM POWELL? THANK YOU, SO, SIR.

WELL, ALL RIGHT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS CLARIFICATION, SIR, YOU CAN HEAR US DISCUSSING BECAUSE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION FOR ONE.

WE'VE ALREADY CLARIFIED THE FIRST ONE WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON.

BUT FOR A SECOND, YEAH, COVID.

THAT'S WHAT. YEAH, YEAH, THE COVID ONE IS TOTALLY TIED TO TUTORING AND KIDS WHAT YOU CALL A KOVIC SLIDE.

KIDS FALLING BEHIND.

SO THAT ONE IS TOTALLY TIED TO AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING OR WHATEVER TAKES SOME CREOLE KIND OF DID THE SAME THING OF HOLDING KIDS AFTER SCHOOL THERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ACTUALLY SET UP TUTORING PROGRAMS IN THREE DAYS A WEEK, AND IT'S TIED TO KIDS COMING ARE FINDING THE KIDS OR GETTING THE KIDS, AND IT'S TOTALLY TIED TO THE TUTORING ASPECT.

THE OTHER IS A MENTORING ASPECT, SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF KIDS AND THIS IS TOTALLY TIED TO EDUCATION.

KIDS THAT FELL BEHIND AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, CREOLE ENDED UP HOLDING KIDS AFTER SCHOOL FOR A WHILE AND AN EXTRA HOUR OR SO, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS SET IT UP AT THE SAME LOCATIONS I SPOKE OF EARLIER AND HAVE THE KIDS COME FOR TUTORING.

OTHERING WAS A MENTORING PROGRAM, AND SO THEY'RE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.

OK, DOES THAT GO WITH YOU, MISS URBAN? YES, I JUST I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THE APPLICATIONS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL, EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE QUESTION, BECAUSE ONE TIES TO THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF WRITING AND THE OTHER ONE TIES TO THE COVERT TYPE ACT THAT WERE REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE TO HUD.

SO I THINK THAT IT WAS JUST THE APPLICATIONS ALMOST MIRROR THEMSELVES, EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE QUESTION. SO THE COVERT FUNDING IS FOR TUTORING TO GET THEM CAUGHT BACK UP BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE MISSED SCHOOL DUE TO HAVING COVID.

YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN THE OTHER PROGRAM NOT NECESSARILY FROM HAVING COVID, BUT WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT KIDS THAT WERE IN HOME OR THEY MISSED DAYS DURING SCHOOL FOR SICKNESS OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS, THEY WERE SUDDENLY FALLING BEHIND.

RIGHT. SO THE TUTORING IS TRYING TO GET THEM BACK ON TRACK FROM THE VIRTUAL THAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE IF THEY FELL BEHIND IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR ARE KIDS THAT ARE PERFORMING BELOW THEIR GRADE LEVEL RIGHT NOW, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON.

THE TUTORING WENT.

AND HOW ARE YOU TYING IT DIRECTLY TO COVID? FOR THE TUTORING.

HOW ARE YOU DOCUMENTING AND TYING IT TO THE COVID? I'M NOT SURE WE CAN TIE THEM BEING BEHIND IN SCHOOL DIRECTLY TO.

WELL, HE FELL BEHIND BECAUSE HE WAS IN A VIRTUAL UNLESS WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT STUDENT RECORDS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND WE'RE NOT GOING THERE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIND THOSE KIDS THAT WERE VIRTUAL.

AND SINCE THEN, THEY'VE EITHER FALLEN BEHIND OR THEY'RE DOING WORSE IN SCHOOL OR THOSE KIND OF EDUCATIONAL TYPES OF THINGS WHERE THEY FELL BEHIND.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TIE IT TO.

SO, SO YOU'RE TYING INTO COVID BECAUSE THEY PARTICIPATED IN VIRTUAL SCHOOL OR DIDN'T WANT THEM GOING IN OR WHATEVER THE SCHOOL FEELS LIKE THAT HAS CAUSED THEM TO FALL BEHIND YOU.

REMEMBER, I MENTIONED EARLIER, MARTINA IS NOW TIED IN WITH THE SCHOOLS.

AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR BIGGEST DRAW OF WHERE WE GET THE KIDS FROM.

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OF HOW TO, YOU KNOW, WHICH ARE THE KIDS, HOW DO WE GET THEM BACK ON TRACK WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM? SO THE EASIEST THING TO DO IS FOR HER TO GET APPROVED TO GO INTO THE SCHOOL. TALK TO THE TEACHERS, TALK TO THE, YOU KNOW, AND GET MORE.

I THINK TOMORROW, IN FACT, SHE'S GOING TO BE AT ST..

THE ST. PRINCIPAL ACTUALLY ASKED HER TO COME IN THERE.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF GET TIED IN WITH THE PRINCIPALS, THE SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND TRY TO GET THE KIDS THAT NEED THE HELP AND THEN SET UP THE PROGRAMS, EITHER HERE IN THE CENTRAL PART OF PALM BAY OR OVER IN MALABAR AREA OR WHEREVER, AND TRY TO DO IT THREE DAYS A WEEK FOR THE COCKPIT REASONS.

MY QUESTION NOW IS FOR SANDRA, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CLEAR WAY OF TYING THE TUTORING TO COVID. HOW ARE WE? HOW ARE WE TO FUND THAT? IF YOU CAN'T CLEARLY TIE IT BACK TO PREPARING, PREVENTING OR RESPONDING TO COVID, THEN YOU CAN'T FUND THEM BECAUSE THAT IS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE CVE FUNDS.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE FUNDS IS, IF NOT FOR COVID, THEN YOU WOULDN'T NEED THESE FUNDS, SO YOU HAVE TO SOME WAY BE ABLE TO TIE IT BACK TO COVID.

THAT'S. SO HE'S SAYING HE THEY DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC WAY OF DOING THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. OUR ONLY WAY OF DOING IT IS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS, THE TEACHERS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO TRY TO SEE WHO ARE THESE KIDS THAT HAVE FALLEN BEHIND AND GETTING THEM INTO THE TUTORING PROGRAM.

WELL, THEN THE REASON WHY YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF QUESTIONNAIRE OR SOME KIND OF FORM FOR THEM TO FILL OUT THAT SAYS THE REASON WHY THEY NEED THIS TUTORING IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO IF IT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE HOME, THEY WERE DISTANCE LEARNING BECAUSE OF COVID AND BECAUSE OF THAT DISTANCE LEARNING, THEY THEY STARTED FALLING BEHIND.

OR THEY THEY'VE HAD FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE THAT HAVE HAD COVID OR HAVE DIED OF COVID, AND IT CAUSED THEM TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT'S AN NORMAL ABNORMAL SITUATION THAN THEY THEY STARTED FALLING BEHIND IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO WIN SOME, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TIE IT BACK TO CUBA.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THIS CV FUNDING IS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TIE IT BACK TO PREPARING, PREVENTING OR RESPONDING.

SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION YOU GUYS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AFTER THAT FUNDING, RIGHT, YOU TAKE THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM HER AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE DOCUMENTING, DOCUMENTING, DOCUMENTING, DOCUMENTING.

AND WITH THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EASILY ADD TO THE FORM THAT THE PARENTS HAVE TO FILL OUT FOR ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS WE CAN HAVE IN THERE OR GET IT FROM THE SCHOOL OR SOMEWHERE, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE WE DOCUMENT IT.

YES, OK. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU GET FUNDED AND THEN NOT SEE.

I UNDERSTAND. I'M GLAD FOR THE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN DOWN AND AHEAD OF TIME.

AND THAT'S WHERE SHE'S GOING TO COME IN AND BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THAT.

THAT QUESTIONNAIRE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU VERY MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO TIE IT BACK TO COVID. YES. OK, THANK YOU.

OK, THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR SUSAN.

YOU HAD MENTIONED IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE IT.

IT'S EASY.

OR IT SHOULD BE EASY TO SAY FROM THE SCHOOL.

WE HAD TO GO VIRTUAL BECAUSE OF COVID.

MM HMM. AND IS THAT IN ITSELF? WHERE ARE THEY ABLE TO QUALIFY? WITH THAT JUST SAYING THEY WERE ABLE TO GO, THEY HAD TO GO VIRTUAL WITH COVID AND NOW THEY'RE FALLING BEHIND.

IS THAT ENOUGH? YES, BECAUSE WE HAVE I HAVE HEARD THAT AND I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS EVEN WITH MY OWN KIDS AT THE END OF SCHOOL YEAR WHEN THEY HAD A DISTANCE LAWN.

THEY WEREN'T LEARNING NEARLY AS MUCH BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF KOBE, THEY HAD TO STAY HOME.

AND SO ONCE THEY GOT BACK INTO A NORMAL SCHOOL SETTING, THEY STARTED PERFORMING A LOT BETTER. SO DISTANCE LEARNING DOES.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE A DECREASE IN YOUR GRADE.

SO IF THAT'S ONE OF YOUR MEASURING, IF THAT'S A WAY OF YOU'RE MEASURING THAT IF BEFORE COVID, THERE HAD CERTAIN SCORES AND THEN AFTER COVID, THEY HAD LOWER SCORES.

IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF MECHANISM TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE DOING BETTER BEFORE COVID, BUT WHEN COVID HIT, THEY HAD A DECLINE AND THEN THEREFORE THESE FUNDING, THIS FUNDING WILL HELP THEM GET BACK UP TO THE FUNDING, THEN THAT'S ANOTHER WAY YOU CAN SHOW IT AS WELL.

WELL, AND I CAN JUST SAY FROM EXPERIENCE, MY DAUGHTER MISSED FIVE DAYS RECENTLY FROM HAVING EXPOSURE, AND IN THE FIVE DAYS SHE'S MISSED, GRADES HAVE GONE DOWN SEVERAL LETTER GRADES. SO I JUST AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS OK, OK, THANK YOU.

SO JUST TO REFRESH WHERE WE ARE COMING BACK, SO WE HAVE THREE TOP SCORES.

WELL, WE HAVE FIVE THREE TOP WERE.

OH, LORD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 TO 23 CDBG FUNDING.

OK, JUST MAKING SURE, YEAH.

SO I'M GOING BACK TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE REMAINDER OF 1100 AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO DIVVY IT UP OR HOW, SHE SAID.

IT CAN GO BACK TO PUBLIC WORK SINCE IT'S KIND OF IT COULD GO TO NONPUBLIC SERVICES.

[03:20:03]

YOU DON'T. SO THANK YOU.

SO FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, THAT IS THE 15 PERCENT IS THE CAP.

I MEAN, YOU CANNOT EXCEED IT.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FUND AT 15 PERCENT.

THAT'S YOUR DISCRETION. YOU JUST CAN'T GO ABOVE THAT.

OK, THEN I'M FINE WITH MAKING A MOTION TO FULLY FUND THE TOP THREE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE REMAINDER GO TO THE NONPUBLIC SERVICE.

THANK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECONDED BY MS. MIRAGE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I WRITE.

HMM. AVERAGE SCORES, THOUGH, THAT'LL THAT'LL COUNT.

ALL RIGHT. AND I VOTE, I SAW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NON PUBLIC SERVICES.

SO THEN WE SAY THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL ELEVEN HUNDRED.

YES. IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A SECOND, I CAN TELL YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT.

THANKS FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR STAYING SO LONG.

HMM. SO FOR THIS ONE, THIS IS WHERE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FIND PARTS OF PARK RIDGE PARKS AND FACILITIES, BOTH PARTS AND THEN WHATEVER REMAINDER WE WERE GOING TO PUT TOWARDS PUBLIC WORKS.

CORRECT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, CLARIFICATION, WHAT WE WERE DOING.

THAT WAS THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION WAS TO KIND OF HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO DO ALL THREE.

YEAH, BUT HE WAS SAYING THE KEY POINTS WAS THE FOOTBALL FIELD, WHICH I AGREE BASKETBALL COURTS. AND THEN.

ADD THAT UP AND SEE.

WHAT MR. MINOR BACK UP HERE.

MR MARTIN, COULD YOU COME BACK UP, SIR? I'M SORRY. SO BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM WHAT TO USE THE MONEY FOR INSTEAD OF LETTING LETTING HIM ALLOCATED ACCORDINGLY.

NO, HE'S GOING TO COME UP AND TELL US, OH, OK.

RIGHT. GREG MINOR FACILITIES, PARKS DIRECTOR, I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THE PRACTICE FIELD AT VETERANS PARK.

A 54, 192.

IN THE BASKETBALL COURT AT LIBERTY PARK TO INCLUDE DEMOLITION WAS ONE HUNDRED AND 2000.

EXCUSE ME, THOSE ARE STILL JUST ESTIMATES, CORRECT? YES, SIR. BUT THEY'RE VERY ACCURATE, ACTUALLY LIKE FOR THE BASKETBALL COURT.

IN FACT, I JUST READ VERIFIED THE ESTIMATE TODAY WITH THE COMPANY.

YOU LIKE, GET THREE BIDS ON THAT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO GET THAT MANY.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OF OUR NON NON PUBLIC SERVICE AGREEMENTS ALL HAVE TO MEET THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT GUIDELINES. SO THERE WOULD BE IF YOU'RE OVER THE TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR THRESHOLD, ANYTHING WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS.

AND THEN WE ADOPT THE ALSO FOLLOW OUR INTERNAL PROCESS THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT. SO.

AYE, SIR. SO THAT YEAH, THAT'S ONE SIX, ONE NINE TWO.

I'LL BE FINE WITH INCLUDING THE RESTROOMS. VETERANS PARK AND.

I'M LOOKING AT. REST YOUR MAN, AND I THINK THIS THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

SO I'M LOOKING AT RESTROOMS FROM VETERANS PARK AND SIDEWALKS FROM LIBERTY PARK, IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHERE IS THE BOARD WITH THAT? YEAH, THE RESTROOM. THAT'S.

IS THAT ONE HUNDRED, IT'S A HUNDRED TEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED FORTY FIVE, SO THAT PUTS US AT TO.

THAT PUTS US AT TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN DOLLARS.

AND THEN IF YOU ADD THE.

SIDEWALKS. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

OK, I'M. IF 492, I WOULD DO THE SIDEWALK, SO I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

UM, ARE WE NOT GOING BY THE SCORES AND YOU'RE GOING TO JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO FUND

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THE FUNDS WITH? HEY, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

WE STILL SHORT STAFFED. WE STILL.

SHE'S RIGHT, WE STILL SHOULD HAVE THE SCORES.

WELL, ARE YOUR SCORE? WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY.

EVEN THOUGH YOU SCORE THEM, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOT FUND IT AT ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ANYWAY, SO. BUT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW PUBLIC WORKS WAS THAT WAS NUMBER ONE WITH SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIVE. VETERANS PARK WAS TWO WITH SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR, FOLLOWED BY LIBERTY PARK, A SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE.

BUT YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO.

JUST LIKE YOU DO WHEN YOU DECREASE PUBLIC SERVICES.

EXCUSE ME. YOU HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO DO THAT WITH AN EYE ON PUBLIC SERVICES.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE ALL WE'RE DOING.

GOTCHA. WELL, I'LL MAKE IT CLEAR I WAS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST SCORE FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

I SAID IT, SO IT WAS ME.

BUT BUT I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE, BUT I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE BECAUSE THESE THINGS DO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M FINE WITH THE FOUR ITEMS FROM PARKS AND FACILITIES.

THE 110 FOR RESTROOMS, THE 54 FOR THE FIELDS, THE 56 FOR SIDEWALKS IN THE HOME TO THE BASKETBALL COURTS. THAT BRINGS YOU TO 320 THREE THOUSAND AND THE REMAINDER THE PUBLIC WORKS. IF, IF, IF, IF WE WANT TO TAKE OFF THE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S FINE, TOO. BUT DEFINITELY THE DEFINITELY THE THE FIELD BASKETBALL COURTS IN THE RESTROOMS. THINK THAT ACTUALLY SOUNDS GOOD? BUT OK, THEN THEN THEN THAT'S MY MOTION, WHAT HE SAID, OR DO I HAVE TO? I HOPE, ELENA, YOU GOT THAT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET IT.

WELL, NO, BUT THANK YOU.

I GOT IT RIGHT. SO FOR PARKS AND FACILITIES, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO FUND VETERANS PARK, THE UPGRADE TO THE EXISTING RESTROOM, THE UPGRADE TO THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD, THEN AT LIBERTY PARK WOULD LIKE TO.

SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT AND.

THE BASKETBALL COURT, THE TWO BASKETBALL COURTS ALLOCATE REMAINING FUNDING.

AND IS THAT INCLUDING? THE LEFT OVER FROM THE YES, THAT'S MY MOTIONING THE REMAINING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR THE STORM WATER PROJECT.

WHO I HAVE. YOU MAY TIE THAT UP FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW HOW MUCH IS IT EACH AND WHAT'S REMAINING. I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE TOTAL IS, SO YEAH, SO WE'RE GOOD.

I'M GOOD IF YOU'RE IF THAT'S OK WITH YOU.

ARE YOU GOOD? YES, SIR.

LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE TWO FROM THE PARKS PUT TOGETHER DOES NOT EXCEED WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. THE NUMBER I HAVE IS THREE, TWENTY THREE.

THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN DOLLARS.

AND IN TWENTY THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN.

OK, GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

OK. THANK YOU.

OK. WE NEVER VOTED.

I WAS LIKE, YOU NEED TO VOTE.

YOU'RE READY TO GO. SO HE OK.

I HAVE THE SECOND. OK.

MR. JOHNSON MADE THE MOTION FOR A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE AND I VOTE I IN THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK, YOU'VE ALL MY PAPER CV THREE.

ALL RIGHT. SO FOUR CV THREE, THE TOP RANKED ONE WAS BOVARD ALZHEIMER'S FOUNDATION WITH 685 GREATER MELBOURNE POWER, SECOND WITH 630 FOR SPACE.

CLOSE CULTURAL ARTS AND BUSINESS ORGANIZATION WAS THREE WITH SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE, AND CENTRAL FLORIDA CHILD HEALTH PROGRAM WAS FOURTH WAS 491.

SO I MAKE A MOTION TO FIND THE TOP THREE FOR THE FULL AMOUNT.

SECOND. YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, I LIE AND I VOTE, I IN THAT MOTION PASSES.

WE CLARIFY HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE LEFT OVER IF WE JUST AWARD THE TOP THREE.

YES.

SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FOUR DOLLARS AND TWENTY CENTS.

THAT'LL BE PUT BACK OUT FOR APPLICATIONS.

THAT IS CORRECT. PROBABLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. OK, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I KNOW WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

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OK, SO INFORMATIONAL STAFF REPORT.

DID AND ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF REPORT?

[OTHER BOARD BUSINESS]

ALL RIGHT, THEN, I'VE GOT NOTHING ELSE FOR YOU.

AND THEIR BOARD COMMENTS WERE GOOD.

OK. HE HIT THE GAVEL.

MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.