Feb 03, 2022 Council Meetings - Regular

OK, I'M GOING TO CALL THE OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AT THE WATER.

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CAN WE ALL PLEASE RISE AND PASS TO DREXLER? GOOD EVENING. LAST TIME I HAD A LITTLE JOKE FOR YOU TODAY, IT'S JUST GOING TO LET US PRAY. ALMIGHTY AND EVERY LIVING GOD, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO INSTITUTED HUMAN GOVERNMENT TO SERVE CREATION.

FOR THIS, WE GIVE YOU THANKS.

WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING UPON THE LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

OR OUT YOUR SPIRIT OF COMPASSION AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS AFFECTING THE LIVES OF OTHERS.

IF THESE MEN AND WOMEN, YOUR WISDOM, GUIDANCE AND COURAGE TO DO YOUR WILL.

WE'RE ALL WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE.

WE PRAY THAT THE WORDS OF OUR MOUTH AND THE MEDITATIONS OF OUR HEARTS BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE LORD, OUR STRENGTH AND REDEEMER.

AMEN. ITS ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

RAH RAH.

THANK YOU, MS. LEFLER, ROLL CALL MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT, DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON, YOU'RE COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU'RE COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

MS. SHERMAN MS. SMITH, YOU'RE. THAT'D BE MAYOR, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

ONE VACANCY ON THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY REPRESENTS THE AT LARGE POSITION. TWO TERMS EXPIRING ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.

THREE TERMS EXPIRING ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT ADULT MEMBER 30 YEARS IN OLDER POSITION. TWO TERMS EXPIRING ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REPRESENT AT LARGE POSITIONS. TWO TERMS EXPIRING ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS THAT LARGE POSITIONS. ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS THAT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION AND ONE VACANCY ON THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT THREE TWO ONE NINE FIVE TWO THREE FOUR ONE FOUR.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR MADAM SHERMAN.

[AGENDA REVISIONS]

THE FIRST IS IN ADDITION TO NEW BUSINESS, IT'LL BE ITEM NUMBER THREE.

IT IS A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM UNITED COALITION COUNCIL INC FOR A COVID TESTING AND VACCINE POP UP CLINIC.

ALSO, ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS WITHDRAWN FROM THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MADAM SMITH. ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. OK, WE'RE ON PROCLAMATIONS OF RECOGNITION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]

I LIKE TO CALL UP ELIZABETH JOHNSON.

WE'RE NOT RELATED. GOOD.

IT'S. NOTICE AND PROCLAMATION, BLACK HISTORY MONTH, FEBRUARY TWENTY TWENTY TWO.

RECOGNIZING ELIZABETH M.

JOHNSON, IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS CARTER G.

WOODSON, A HARVARD PH.D., THOUGHT THAT IT BLACK PEOPLE COULD GO ON A JOURNEY OF SELF-DISCOVERY AND ETHNIC CELEBRATION, THEY COULD OVERCOME THE RACIAL REALITIES OF THE 1920S. IN NINETEEN TWENTY SIX, DR.

WOODSON PIONEERED THE CELEBRATION OF NEGRO HISTORY WEEK.

THE WEEK OF RECOGNITION BECAME ACCEPTED AND HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO THE FULL MONTH OF FEBRUARY, KNOWN AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

AND WHEREAS DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WE CELEBRATE THE VAST CONTRIBUTION OF BLACK OF PAST GENERATIONS AND REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO KEEPING THE AMERICAN DREAM ALIVE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.

IT'S ALSO A TIME TO CELEBRATE THE MANY ACHIEVEMENTS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN EVERY FIELD, FROM SCIENCE AND ARTS TO POLITICS AND RELIGION.

AND WHEREAS ELIZABETH M.

JOHNSON, RESIDENT AND AUTHOR OF THE BOOK JUST LIKE MY DAD, SEEKS TO IMPROVE ADULT AND

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ELIZABETH, ALONG WITH CO-FOUNDER TERRELL PLAYER, STRESSES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ADULT INFLUENCE ON THE YOUTH TO AID AND BETTER DECISION MAKING FOR A SUCCESSFUL LIFE.

AND WHEREAS THE FOCUS ON LITERACY WITHIN THE YOUTH OF TODAY'S SOCIETY BY BOOKS SUCH AS JUST LIKE MY DAD CAN INCREASE MORE INTEREST IN TRAFFIC TO THE LOCAL LIBRARIES AND IMPLEMENT BOOK STUDIES USING JUST LIKE MY DAD IN THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM.

AND WHEREAS ELIZABETH JOHNSON WAS NAMED AUTHOR OF THE YEAR TWENTY TWENTY ONE BY THE AUTHOR'S PORCH AND PULSE MAGAZINE.

AND WHEREAS THE STORY OF BLACKS IN AMERICA IS A STORY OF DETERMINATION, COURAGE AND INSPIRATION THAT TOUCHES NEARLY EVERY FACET OF AMERICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE BECAUSE BLACK HISTORY IS IN FACT AN INTEGRAL PART OF AMERICA'S HISTORY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I DEPUTY MAYOR KENNY JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR RAS MEDINA, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY TWENTY TWENTY TWO AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CELEBRATION AND LEARN MORE ABOUT BLACK HISTORY.

FIRST, GIVING HONOR TO GOD, WHO IS THE AUTHOR OF MY LIFE TO MY HUSBAND, ANTONIO, WHO IS WATCHING THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND SUPPORT TO MY SON, TIKAL.

THANK YOU FOR BEING THE GREATEST SON EVER.

ALICIA EMBRYO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF MY LIFE.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY CEO AND COAUTHOR, TYRRELL PLAYER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE ON THIS JOURNEY AND I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THE LIVES THAT WE WILL TOUCH LOCALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.

TO MY BROTHER, ALONZO STRANGE, WHO HAS BEEN A CONSTANT PUSH IN MY DREAM TO BECOME AN AUTHOR. THANK YOU AND I LOVE YOU TO MY ENTIRE TEAM AT PLAYTIME MULTIMEDIA JULIAN PAUL ALLEN AND SOMMER AUSTIN AND JAMES, ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK TO C.J.

LOPEZ, THE AUTHORS PORCH.

THANK YOU FOR BELIEVING IN ME AND GIVING ME AUTHOR OF THE YEAR AND SUPPORTING THE VISION OF PLAYTAP MULTIMEDIA TO KHALID.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO GRACE YOUR MAGAZINE COVER IN THE MAGAZINE OUT OF HOUSTON, TEXAS TO COUNCILMAN KENDI JOHNSON.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING ME AND HONORING ME WITH THIS PROCLAMATION TO MAYOR ROB MEDINA AND YOUR STAFF. THANK YOU FOR HONORING ME ON TONIGHT TO MY FAMILY, FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND SUPPORT.

I WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE PALM BAY PROUD ALONG THIS JOURNEY.

LAST TO MY MOM WHO IS WATCHING I LOVE YOU, MY HEARTBEAT AND TO MY HEAVENLY HERO.

MY DAD, WHO IS THIS ONE IS FOR YOU.

YOUR BABY GIRL IS DOING IT.

PLAYTIME, MULTIMEDIA STRONG.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

YOU BATON FIVE EIGHTY SIX, OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS AND MONTHS IN THE MAKING OF THAT, I'VE BEEN ADDRESSING RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

I ASKED SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE QUESTION WHERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? IS THAT RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND GOING TO BE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I DID AND HOW I PLANNED ACCORDINGLY TO PURCHASE IT? AND I TOLD IT BE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I CHECKED THE DRAFT LAST NIGHT OR YESTERDAY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE WENT FROM TWO PERCENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND, DOWN TO ONE PERCENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND. SO THERE WAS NO PLACE AT THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS EVEN CONSIDERING HAVING RURAL

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I'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH THAT WHEN I STARTED MAKING MY DECISIONS ON WHERE I WAS GOING TO BUY MY LAND, MY PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE RESPONSIBLE, I HAD TO PURCHASE ALL OF MY INFORMATION ON PAPER, MAKE TRACKS AND FOLLOW IT.

ALL OF THAT INFORMATION CAME OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I HAD TO PURCHASE 1988.

THIS IS HOW LONG I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FOLLOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHEN IT CAME TO MAKING INTELLIGENT DECISION ON LAND MASS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, THERE'S A CURRENT MAN, IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, PLEASE. A LITTLE BIT MORE WOULDN'T GET THERE IF YOU SEE THE HASH MARKS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OR TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE FOUR FOUR WHITE PIECES PARCELS OF PROPERTY THAT WAS THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND THAT WAS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHEN I TRIED TO PURCHASE, THAT WAS WHAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR ME THAT I COULD AFFORD.

AND IT WAS ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT WAS THERE OUT OF THOSE FOUR PIECES OF LAND, ONLY ONE IS LEFT AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE SMALLEST ONE, AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE BILL BATTENED. AND I HAVE THE NEXT FOLDER POLICE FILE.

GOING UP, PLEASE. OK.

WHEN I STARTED, THERE WAS FIVE PIECES, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO FOUR.

EACH ONE OF THOSE COULD JUST SHRINK IT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

EACH ONE OF THOSE ARE MISSING ARE NOW GONE, EXCEPT FOR NUMBER FOUR.

THEY'VE ALL DISAPPEARED, SO ONE MORE TIME, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE THE NEXT FILE, PLEASE? I PURCHASED THIS BASED ON ON WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, LOTS ARE STILL ARE SELLING IN THAT AREA, SO IT WAS MADE SENSE THAT THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

AND LIKE I SAY, THESE DECISIONS WERE MADE BY PRIOR PLANNING TO SEE WHAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY WANTED THE NEXT ONE.

A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, PLEASE.

IF YOU SEE ITEM NUMBER NINE, THAT WAS THE LAND MASS AREA THAT I WAS PURCHASING INTO THAT LITTLE YELLOW DOT, THAT'S ME.

THIS WAS THE PLACE TO PURCHASE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND.

IT WAS PRIOR PLANNING TO PREVENT PISS POOR PERFORMANCE.

THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

RUNNING OUT OF TIME, I APOLOGIZE.

A CONSTRICTED DOWN.

COULD YOU SHOW THE LAST ONE, PLEASE? THAT IS THE FLOOD PLAIN AREA WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT WAS THE PLACE TO BUY RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND.

THAT WAS THE PLACE THAT IS A FLOOD PLAIN AND IT'S ALL DISAPPEARING NOW AND DEVELOPERS ARE TAKING IT. THAT IS NOT THE WAY WE WANT TO MANAGE LAND MASS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF.

MARY LOU RUSS.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AT THE COUNCIL.

WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO RUN FOR A PALM BAY COUNCIL POSITION AND WHO VETS THE APPLICATIONS OR APPLICANTS THAT COME IN? THANK YOU, MA'AM. RUTH CUPFUL.

I MISPRONOUNCED IT, I APOLOGIZE.

OK. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS RUTH CAULFIELD, 09:35 DOUGLAS STREET, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

FOLLOW ON TO MS. RUSSELL'S QUESTION WHO DOES THE QUALIFICATIONS? WHO DOES THE VETTING FOR ANY CANDIDATE THAT'S RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE IN PALM BAY AND SPECIFICALLY DUE TO THE SPECIAL ELECTION COMING UP? AND WHERE CAN WE FIND THOSE RESULTS OF THE QUALIFICATIONS TO SEE IF A CANDIDATE ACTUALLY IS QUALIFIED TO RUN FOR OFFICE? SO IS THAT WHO? WHO DOES THE RESEARCH AND WHO PUBLISHES THE RESULTS AND WHERE CAN THE PUBLIC FIND THEM? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

BUT YOU RAN. EVERYTHING PUT YOUR AROUND 19 TRENTON AVENUE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON ONE OF THE CITY ORDINANCES THAT I OBTAINED FROM A GENTLEMAN, AND IT'S CONCERNING HEIGHT, ELEVATION OF NEW BUILDS IN HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND YES, I'M KIND OF BEING SELFISH, BUT THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME IS AT SIX FEET. THAT'S WHERE HIS HOUSE STARTS AT.

I'M DOWN HERE. SIX FOOT FENCE DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD.

NO PRIVACY. THEY JUST LET THIS CLEAR TO LOTS.

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MY CONCERN IS WHEN THEY BUILD THOSE UP, IF THEY GET TO THE SAME HEIGHT, I'M JUST AN OLD DUMB [EXPLETIVE] FROM KENTUCKY, BUT I KNOW WATER RUNS DOWNHILL.

AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO END UP.

SO THEN I TRIED TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON IT, SO I STARTED READING THIS.

I'LL JUST GIVE YOU ONE OF THEM REAL QUICK.

SIDE SLOPES OF AN AREA WITHIN A LOT CANNOT EXCEED ONE FOOT VERTICAL FOR FOUR FEET OF HORIZONTAL. I'VE TRIED TO FIGURE THAT OUT, AND I CAN'T, SO IF SOMEONE COULD EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, I'D BE GLAD TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM.

THEN IT TALKS ABOUT SEPTIC TANKS.

AND WHO WHO FIGURES OUT THAT IT'S A GUY AT FLORIDA HEALTH.

I MEAN, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DETERMINES THE WATER LEVEL.

THE SEPTIC TANK HAS TO BE AT LEAST TWENTY FOUR INCHES ABOVE THE WATER LEVEL.

OK. THERE WAS I READ THROUGH IT, IT SAYS EROSION CONTROL ITEM D, NO GRADING, CUTTING OR FILLING SHALL BE COMMENCED UNTIL EROSION AND SEDIMENT AND CONTROL STRUCTURE HAS BEEN INSTALLED. IS THAT THE BLACK? SUBSTANCES THAT HE PUT AROUND THERE.

AND IF SO, DOES THAT NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE THE LAND CLEARING, AFTER THE LAND CLEARING, DURING THE LAND CLEARING, BEFORE CONSTRUCTION OR WHATEVER? THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.

I JUST. IF SOMEONE COULD HELP ME FIGURE OUT THAT RATIO THERE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'D BE GLAD TO SIT WITH THEM AND DO THAT.

OTHER THAN THAT, THOUGH, CINCINNATI.

THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU, BUTCH.

NATHAN WHITE.

YOU CAN WAIT 13 OH, ONE SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I WANTED TO COME UP HERE ACTUALLY JUST AND TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR WITHDRAWING RESOLUTION 20 20 ZERO NINE, THAT BILL OR THAT RESOLUTION REGARDS FLORIDA HOUSE BILL FIVE THIRTY ONE, WHICH WOULD LEGISLATE AN INCREASE OF VOTER INFORMATION PROVIDED AT THE POLLS FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS.

AND. THIS RESOLUTION IS A RATHER TERRIBLE ARGUMENT AGAINST IT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL FOR TURNING THE DIRECTION, SO TO SPEAK.

TURNING, TURNING THE WHEEL TO DODGE THE ICEBERG AS IT WERE.

I HOPE THIS INDICATES THAT WE'RE GOING IN A BETTER DIRECTION NOW, A DIRECTION WHICH VALUES AND ENCOURAGES VOTER INFORMATION AND EDUCATION, AS WELL AS, OF COURSE, MAINTAINING THE ABILITY TO USE THAT VOTE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU. PETE FILIBERTO.

PALM BAY MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING, PETE FILIBERTO TWO, TWO, SIX THREE.

SPRING CREEK CIRCLE.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

I'VE BEEN NOTICING THE MAINTENANCE ON THE LAWN IN THE MEETINGS RECENTLY EDGING CLEAN CUT.

OUR MEETINGS ARE LOOKING GOOD AROUND PALM BAY.

ALSO, WHEN I WAS DRIVING AROUND TODAY ON FIRE, I PASSED BY FIRE STATION ONE.

I WANT TO COMMEND THOSE FOLKS THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEBODY WITH A FLAT TIRE THAT PULLED INTO THE FIRE STATION AND A FIRE STATION CAME OUT WITH A PORTABLE AIR TANK AND BLEW UP THE GUY'S TIRE AND THE GUY WAS ABLE TO GO TO WORK OR DO WHATEVER HE HAD TO DO.

SO TWO THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED THAT ARE GREAT FOR OUR CITY AND I WANT TO COME UP WITH COME IN AND LET COUNCIL KNOW.

SO THANK YOU. YOU PALM BAY PROUD, SIR.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMPLAINT AND THEN FOLLOW THAT UP WITH, YOU KNOW, GETTING HELP FOR BUSH AND ELEVATION, APPARENTLY THEY'RE RELATED TO THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL QUESTION.

I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT PREVIOUSLY AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOING FORWARD.

I CAN'T SPEAK SO MUCH TO HOW THINGS HAVE LEFT OVER THE YEARS, RIGHT? AND BILL, YOU, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE WITNESSED SOME OF THOSE CHANGES, BUT THIS IS THE TIME TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WRAPPING UP THE THE VISION PORTION OF THAT.

ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A FINAL DRAFT THAT WOULD BE COMING TO COUNCIL HERE, WHICH MEETING JOHN, DO YOU KNOW? BOARD, SORRY, I CAN'T READ WITH THE MASK.

SO MARCH 3RD, THERE WILL BE A FINAL VISION PLAN WILL COME TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, SO EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE THERE.

AND THEN WE'LL ALSO LAY OUT FOR YOU OUR FUTURE MEETINGS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND

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REGARDING THE QUESTION OF MR BATTEN ASKED.

I'LL DEFER THE FURTHER QUALIFICATIONS QUESTION TO THE CLERK, OBVIOUSLY IN THE LAST ONE FOR MR BUTERIN'S QUESTIONS OR SEVERAL.

SO I'LL ACTUALLY ASK OUR CITY ENGINEER FRANCOIS KNOBBY TO GET WITH YOU AND KIND OF WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE DETAILS FOR YOU BECAUSE I KNOW HE CAN GET YOUR ANSWERS.

THAT'S ALL FOR MY LISTENERS. I BELIEVE SO, MA'AM, AND I THINK THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE VESTING OF APPLICATION OF CANDIDATES THAT GOES TO OUR CLERK OF COURTS OR LIKE A COURT CLERK. IT'S AT EACH CANDIDATE ACTUALLY COMPLETES AN AFFIDAVIT STATING THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND THAT THEY MET THE QUALIFICATIONS.

SO IF AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE THE QUALIFICATIONS, THEY WOULD DO SO THROUGH THE COURT. I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE A MILITARY ACTION OR JUDGMENT.

ALL RIGHT. OK, THIS IS PREEMPTED TO THE STATE.

ACTUALLY, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE, SET UP A PROCEDURE TO VET THE QUALIFICATIONS OF SOMEBODY RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

THE CLERK'S DUTIES ARE COMPLETELY MINISTERIAL.

IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, THERE IS A STATUTE WHICH OF COURSE, PREEMPTS THIS CITY FROM CREATING ITS OWN PROCESS IN WHICH THIS IS TAKEN DIRECTLY TO THE CIRCUIT COURT.

AND IT'S A CIRCUIT COURT THAT DETERMINES WHETHER SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY A CANDIDATE IS ACTUALLY QUALIFIED TO GO FORTH OR NOT.

BUT WE ACTUALLY STATUTORILY, WE ARE PREEMPTED FROM DOING SO OURSELVES.

WE ONLY GO BY WHAT THEIR AFFIDAVIT SAYS, OH, IT IS THE COURT SYSTEM THAT WOULD IS THE VENUE FOR ANY CHALLENGES OF VESTING OF CANDIDATES, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT, MA'AM? YES, SIR.

OK. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE CITIZENS QUESTIONS.

AND ARE WE AND I GUESS BACK TO YOU, MADAM SHERMAN, HAVE WE ASSIGNED SOMEONE FOR FOUR BUTCH TO GET SOME TYPE OF RELIEF OF EXPLANATION? OK. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THIS TIME IF NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS AND

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MS. SMITH. OR IT IS TWENTY TWO.

THAT'S 15 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATED AND ABANDONED IN A PORTION OF THE SIDE FOR FOOT, PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS LOCATED WITHIN LOTS.

TWENTY SEVEN AND TWENTY EIGHT BLOCK NINE OR MALABAR HOLIDAY PARK UNIT ONE, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN TWO.

PAGE 130, THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT, EXCUSE ME TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

IT. THREE LINTON, 40 TO 14, KAYLENE CIRCLE.

I'M HERE FOR HOPEFULLY APPROVAL FOR MY REQUEST TO VACATE EASEMENT.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF PART? WHICH? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT ADD STAFF COMMENTS.

NOTHING FURTHER. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

SO LONG. WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

OH, PUBLIC COMMENTS. NATHAN WHITE.

HMM.

I KNOW HE'S ON ITEM SEVEN.

THAT LOOKS LIKE A ONE TO ME AS WELL, SIR, BUT YOUR ITEM SEVEN.

FOUR SEVEN. OK, THANK YOU.

LOOK LIKE A ONE FROM.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

A MOTION APPROVED HORNETS 20 20 TO DASH 15 FINAL READING, SECOND AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, STINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR BY US IS UNANIMOUSLY WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY TWO, 16.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER FIFTY FIVE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT PENSION PLAN MODIFYING DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE FIREFIGHTER LONGEVITY PAY EARN OWNER AFTER OCTOBER 1ST, 2021.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

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ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM SETH.

THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH, WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM AGENDA.

YOU NOT I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO TO SIXTEEN FINAL READING ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN, NONE ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED HIS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM OR DEFER AMONG ITEM NUMBER THREE ADAM SMITH.

YES, MIA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBERS THREE, FOUR, NINE, 11 AND 13.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY AS SUCH A MATTER MEDINA SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS IN THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT HIS VISA CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, I DISCLOSE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT IS COMPLY WITH SECTION FIFTY NINE POINT ZERO THREE.

PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES PER WITNESS.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE THEN ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.

THE BOARD MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING. THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY TWO, THAT'S ZERO EIGHT, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CAR WASH AND S.C.

COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO MINTON ROAD. THE VICINITY SOUTH OF PALM BAY ROAD ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, WRITING THE USE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDING FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN MORALES ADDRESS NINE SOUTH EAST 17TH STREET IN FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT, AS HE WAS SUMMARIZED.

THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO ALLOW FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CAR WASH AT 50 50 MINTON ROAD. IT'S A ONE POINT TWO OR FOUR ACRE SITE, APPROXIMATELY, AND IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A SHELL GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE WITH PARKING AND 10 FUELING POSITIONS.

THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT WOULD BE TO RAISE AND REBUILD THE EXISTING SITE.

IT WILL BE WILL BE DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING BUILDING AND INSTALLING A NEW THREE.

APPROXIMATELY THREE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE SQUARE FOOT AUTOMATED CAR WASH. THE CAR WASH IS A SELF-SERVICE CAR WASH, SO IT HAS AN AUTOMATED CONVEYOR BELT THAT ALLOWS MOSTLY THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUSINESSES MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP MEMBERS.

SO THEY GO THROUGH A PAY STATION, ENTER THE SOUTH, THE TUNNEL AND THEN A COMPUTERIZED AUTOMATED CONVEYOR BELT CARRIED THEM THROUGH AND THEN LEASE THEM OUT OF THE TUNNEL, AT WHICH POINT THEY PROCEED TO SELF-SERVICE BACK IN STATIONS WHERE THEY CAN CLEAN UP THEIR CAR. WE TYPICALLY HAVE ABOUT THREE EMPLOYEES MAX PER SHIFT BECAUSE, AS WE SAID, THE CAR WASHING SERVICE IS ALL SELF-SERVICE AND.

IT'S AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF PROPOSED AS PART OF

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WE ARE MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF I JUST WANTED TO OPEN UP THE STAFF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M SORRY TO THE COUNSEL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS TO THE PUBLIC.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? YES, MAYOR COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER AND THEN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT INTERSECTION VERY MUCH OF WE'RE NOT QUITE AT THE INTERSECTION, THOUGH, WE'RE LIKE IN THIS CENTER.

YEAH, YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THE INTERSECTION, BUT THAT'S A BUSY INTERSECTION.

IT'S ONE OF THE BUSIEST INTERSECTIONS IN PALM BAY.

YES. YOU AGREE.

AS A TRAFFIC STUDY BEEN DONE, SO A TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN REVIEW AS A REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVE HAD A PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH BREVARD COUNTY, WHO IS THE OPERATING MAINTENANCE FOR MINTON ROAD IN THIS IN THIS SECTION.

AND IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS RELATED TO TRAFFIC.

ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE EXISTING SITE HAS TWO DRIVEWAYS LEADING INTO THE SITE. THE PROPOSED USE WILL BE CLOSING ONE OF THOSE DOWN AND THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ACCESS ONTO THE SITE.

AND WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STACKING WITHIN THE SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AMOUNT OF, OF COURSE, CAN BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE SITE WITHOUT CAUSING ANY BACKUP ONTO THE RIGHT WAY. AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THAT.

CORRECT. WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE COMING FROM HOW, HOW, HOW MANY HOURS THIS CAR WASH IS GOING TO BE OPEN CAR WASHES THE CAR WASHES OPEN REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS FROM EIGHT A.M.

TO EIGHT P.M., BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH STAFF AT THE TIME, WE CAN PROVIDE A NOISE STUDY OR ASK A QUESTION DURING THE PLAN APPLICATION.

HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO NOTE THERE'S AN EXISTING EIGHT-FOOT CONCRETE WALL THAT SEPARATES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, PROVIDES A BUFFER FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE BACK, AND THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL CANAL AREA THAT SEPARATES THE SITE FROM THE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I BELIEVE THE CANAL RIGHT AWAY IS ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO 80 FEET OF IT.

SO THERE'S PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER 80 FEET WIDE OR.

CORRECT. OK. YEAH, OK.

AND THERE'S ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT I CAN SHOW THE SITE PLAN HERE.

THE CAR WASH BUILDING, WHICH IS LOCATED TOWARDS THE WEST PORTION OF THE SITE, THERE IS A RETENTION AREA BEHIND THE BUILDING AS WELL.

THAT'S APPROXIMATELY FIFTY TWO FEET, SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL FIFTY TWO FEET OF AREA BEFORE THE WALL AND THEN BEFORE THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY OF CANAL.

THERE IS IN BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE NEIGHBOR.

THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. IT COUNCILMAN FOSTER OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THERE IS A BUFFER THERE CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW IT IS A GAS STATION.

YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS A BUSY CORRIDOR.

YEAH, ONE OF THE BUSIEST HOUSES, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SAID.

MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU TO? YOU'RE GOING TO LEVEL EVERYTHING OUT AND THEN REBUILT IT? YEAH. SO IT'LL BE LIKE A TYPICAL TYPICALLY IT'S REALLY A MEANS MESSAGE AND DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S MATERIALS BACKLOG AND BUT CONSTRUCTION TYPICALLY SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.

SO AS COUNCILMAN FOSTER MENTIONED, THE TRAFFIC STUDY I WANT, I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THERE'S TWO TWO TURNING LANES THAT BEGIN THERE AND THEY TURN ON EMERSON, RIGHT? SO THE CONCERN WOULD BE THE BACKUP IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO FLOW INTO THE THE PLACE OF BUSINESS, THE CAR WASHED AT THAT POINT.

YEAH. SO WHATEVER YOU COULD DO TO ALLEVIATE THAT PROCESS, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY, RIGHT? BUT IT IS A BUSY INTERSECTION AND PEOPLE LINE UP THAT FAR AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION ON EMERSON TO MAKE THAT TURN.

SO SAFETY WISE, WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHALLENGES THERE, BUT WE'RE REALLY I'M I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE BUSINESS AND GIVEN THAT THAT BUSINESS AND OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED IN THAT LOCATION BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT THAT QUARTER HAS EXPANDED TO SIX LANES EVEN MORE NOW, I THINK.

BUT DEFINITELY IT'S IT WAS A BUSINESS THAT WAS THERE YEARS AGO.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR BUTCHER IN.

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I'M KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON YOU GUYS TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

THE OTHER THING IS HALF MILE DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S ALREADY A CAR WASH.

IT'S THERE, AND IT'S THAT ONE'S IS NOT EASY TO GET INTO.

ALSO, YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN TO A U-TURN TO COME BACK IN AND LIKE YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THAT TRAFFIC BACKS UP THERE IN THE EVENINGS, IT'S LIKE A NASCAR PIT STOP TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THAT PLACE.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT WESTBOUND INTO EMERSON AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S THREE LANES, ACTUALLY THAT'S THERE.

THREE AND COMING OFF OF PALM BAY ROAD, MAN, THEY THEY GO AND THEN THEY ALSO THEY BEING THE TRAFFIC FOLKS TEND TO BE IN THE SOUTHBOUND ON MINTON AND JUMP OVER INTO THAT LANE, FIGHT THEIR WAY IN, YOU KNOW, THEY BULLDOG YOU OUT OF THE WAY.

SO I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO PUT SOMETHING THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE A HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME AT THAT LOCATION.

ESPECIALLY WITH ONE WAY ONE WAY OUT.

THANKS. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, BUTCH, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS RIGHT NOW TRAFFIC OR PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THAT GAS STATION, THEY CAN MAKE THAT TREK TO GO NORTH.

RIGHT. AND NO, ALL THAT TRAFFIC NOT COMING OUT OF THE GAS STATION TO THE MIDDLE.

THE ONLY WAY THEY HAVE IS TO GO SOUTH.

WELL, I'VE SEEN IT DONE WELL.

THEY DO IT, BUT IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.

YEAH, I'VE SEEN IT DONE.

YEAH, I'VE SEEN IT DONE.

SO WHETHER THEY CAN OR NOT, I I TAKE THAT BACK, BUT I'VE SEEN SEVERAL.

OH YEAH, AND THAT'S DANGEROUS BECAUSE IT IS A LARGE CAR AND THE CAR WAS JUST DOWN THE ROAD. IT'S THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE LITTLE, LITTLE SPACE THERE.

YOU CAN SHOOT ACROSS THAT COMING TRAFFIC AND GET IN THERE, BUT IT'S ILLEGAL.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL. THE MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

AND HE SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HMM. COME ON. MM HMM.

I JUST I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, I JUST I DO WANT TO REITERATE NUMBER ONE, THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE, YOU KNOW, STUDIED BY THE CITY AND ANY ADJUSTMENTS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY WILL BE MADE DURING THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS.

BUT I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS A LESS INTENSE USE OF THE EXISTING USE, WHICH IS A GAS STATION.

AND THERE'S ALSO BY REMOVING ONE OF THE FULL DRIVEWAYS, WHICH ACTUALLY THE EXISTING DRIVERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY COMPLIANT BY THE LATEST REGULATIONS.

IT REMOVES THE AMOUNT OF COMPLEX CONFLICT POINTS THAT IT CREATES FOR TRAFFIC GOING SOUTHBOUND BECAUSE IT DECREASES THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT PEOPLE SLOW DOWN AND KIND OF BACK UP TRAFFIC.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

AND I DO AGREE THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS VENTURE AND THAT IS A COMMERCIAL SPOT, SO I GET THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT MR MORALES.

I REALLY DO. THANK YOU.

AND OF THE SPEAKER CARDS, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A A MOTION A MOTION APPROVED KQ DASH ONE DASH TWENTY TWENTY TWO SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

IT'S OUR SECOND I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN, HERE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I KNOW THIS IS MORE PERTAINING TO THE OWNER, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT.

WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT BUSINESS.

WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

WE WANT EVERY BUSINESS TO SUCCEED.

IT'S A SLIGHT CONCERN.

I'M THINKING WITHIN THAT 15 MILES RADIUS.

THERE'S SEVEN CAR WASH.

I JUST WANT I'M PRETTY SURE THE INVESTOR DID THEIR HOMEWORK.

I JUST WOULD HATE TO SEE A BUSINESS LIKE THAT OPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY.

IF YOU START FROM MALABAR EAST, YOU KNOW, NORTHERN BABCOCK, YOU START COUNTING.

IT'S OVER SEVEN OF THEM.

SO WE'RE ADDING THIS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE BUSINESS OF GREAT SUCCESS.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE HOMEWORK HAS BEEN DONE AND.

AND YOU CERTAINLY CAN SPEAK ON THAT IF YOU.

WELL, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALREADY THAT THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A QUESTION, BUT IT'S NOT A QUESTION.

I JUST TOOK COMMENT IN GENERAL, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE. BUT WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW, I GOT TO TELL YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS SPOT ON THAT THE TRAFFIC THERE.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, I COULD SEE SOMEONE GOING HOME AND SAY, HELL, WATCH THE CAR.

IN THE MEANTIME, GOING DOWN THAT CORRIDOR.

SO I THINK INVESTMENT WISE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONCEPT.

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SO I CAN SEE I COULD SEE THE BENEFIT TO THAT.

BUT AGAIN, I DIDN'T DO ANY BUSINESS ANALYSIS.

IT'S JUST MY LEHMAN.

LEHMAN VISUAL.

YEAH, JUST I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HATE TO SEE A BUSINESS COME AND AND NOT NOT HAVE GREAT SUCCESS.

SO WE WANT TO SEE ALL BUSINESSES.

ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. I'M WITH YOU THERE, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT.

MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING, I'M CALLING QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ORDINANCE 20 20 TO DASH 17, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, A CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM H.S.

HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO BE MOVIE BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AN ADJACENT DIXIE HIGHWAY WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO RIDGE ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE WITH A ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD NIGHT, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD NIGHT, CONSULAR AND STAFF, I'M ALL FOR THE GUARD FROM 16 TO 80 MAIN STREET ARTIST PALM BAY. WELL, THE CONSUL AND THE.

YEAH, STAFF SHOULD SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF PALM BAY, THE BAYFRONT DEVELOPMENT ERA, ALL THE BUSINESSES, ALL THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS REZONING TO THE BAYFRONT DEVELOPMENT USE MIXED USE.

SO THIS IS WHAT I'M APPLYING FOR AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS APPROVED BECAUSE, AS I SAID, MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ARE GETTING THIS OPPORTUNITY ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN ON THE BAYFRONT DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTION I'M HERE TO ANSWER ALSO ANY QUESTIONS FROM MR. GARY COUNCILMAN.

SURE, FELIX. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MR. GARY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE.

CURRENTLY, IT'S HIGHER.

WHERE COMMERCIAL? IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT'S A CURRENT ZONING AREA COMMERCIAL.

SHOULD THIS? SHOULD WE HONOR THIS? HOW SOON WOULD YOU GET RED? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THING WE I BELIEVE AND WE CAN PROBABLY BRING STAFF TO FACT CHECK ME.

WHAT WE CANNOT HAVE IN THE CMU IS A GAS STATION.

SO HOW SOON WHAT IS THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD? SHOULD SHOULD WE GRANT YOUR REQUEST TONIGHT? WELL, I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S A MIXED USE, AND I WAS TOLD BY THE GOOD MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT THIS WAS FEASIBLE.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS DOING THIS KIND OF BUSINESS, AND I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT WE COULD HAD A RESIDENCE OR MAYBE AN OFFICE SPACE, EVEN ON TOP OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. SO THAT WAS THE INFORMATION WE GOT, AND THAT'S THE PROCEDURE I'M MOVING FORWARD WITH. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A MIXED USE, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT IS IS ACTUALLY ALLOCATING IN THAT ERA.

EAST EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACK BY THE BAYFRONT DEVELOPMENT IS UP FOR THE MOVIE AND THE PMU. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WITH THE PMU AND THE B MOVIE IS THE PMU ALLOW YOU TO GO LIKE 60 FEET, I THINK, OR 60 FEET OR MORE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN IRIS BUILDING.

AND THE AND THE THE B MOVIE ALLOWS YOU ONLY 35 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENCE.

I DON'T KNOW. STAFF MAY LEAD US IN A BETTER DIRECTION.

LOOK, I THINK THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING QUESTION, BROTHER, BECAUSE OR COUNCILMAN FELIX.

SO MAYBE WE COULD GET AN ANSWER TO THAT FROM STAFF, HAVE THEM STEP FORWARD AND STEP ASIDE FOR THAT. THAT'S THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG DO YOU HAVE IF THAT'S THE CASE? YES. COME ON.

MAYOR ALEX BERNARD, OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, CAN ASSIST WITH THAT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

SO BE A MOVIE.

GAS STATIONS ARE NOT A PERMITTED USE.

THEY ARE PROHIBITED.

SO THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

AND HOW MUCH TIME WOULD HE HAVE TO COMPLY ONCE, LET'S SAY, COUNCIL DECIDES TO GRANT THIS

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OK. THANK YOU, ALEX.

ALL RIGHT. ADAM, AS THE GAS STATION IS THERE, HE WOULD BE FINE UNTIL SOMETHING CAME FOURTH AND SIGNIFICANTLY DESTROYED, AND LET'S SAY WE GET A HURRICANE AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE GAS STATION THAT IS DESTROYED.

HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REBUILD IT.

HE WOULD THEN HAVE TO COMPLY.

RIGHT NOW, IF THIS WAS I'M SORRY, IF THIS WAS TO PASS, HE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OR HE CAN KEEP IT THAT WAY UNTIL HIS USE WOULD CONTINUE.

HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.

THERE WOULD BE ISSUES AS FAR AS I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS INTENDED AS FAR AS ITS SPENDING UPON THE ACTUAL USE AS FAR AS THE GAS STATION, BUT IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE HIM TO DESTROY THE GAS STATION IN ORDER TO COMPLY.

HE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE THE USE THAT HE HAS TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN.

BUT IT WOULD BE A NON-CONFORMING USE.

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT SOMEHOW IT WAS DAMAGED OR SOMETHING HAPPENED, HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REBUILD THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THIS USE CONFORM.

COPY THAT, MA'AM. I'M TRACKING YOU NOW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCILMAN FELIX THAT SATISFIED MY ANSWER.

MY QUESTION. BUT IN TERMS OF MR., GARY, DO YOU HAVE OR CAN YOU SHARE WHAT THE FULL INTENT? IT SHOULD.

SHOULD WE GRANT YOUR REQUEST? WELL, AS I SAID BEFORE, I ANTICIPATED TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS AND I HAVE EXISTING AT THIS TIME BECAUSE I'M THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS DOING THE SAME BUSINESS AND THE IMPRESSION I GOT IS WE COULD DO MIXED-USE USE.

WE COULD DO SEVERAL OTHER BUSINESS WITH THE GAS STATION AT PRESENT TIME.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING, IT'S TOOTING.

I WAS GOING TO PUT A BUILDING ON TOP.

I EVEN GAVE THE THE ZONING DEPARTMENT.

I GAVE THEM A PHOTOGRAPH.

I DIDN'T. I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, BRING ANY WITH ME THIS TIME.

BUT I GIVE THEM A SKETCH OF A PHOTOGRAPH OF A BUILDING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON TOP OF THIS EXISTING BUILDING, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN A RESIDENCE OR AN OFFICE SPACE.

SO THAT'S THE PLAN I HAVE.

IT'S NOT LIKE TOMORROW, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE BUSINESS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND HAD A NEXT BUSINESS AS AS TIME GOES ON.

GIVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

THINK ABOUT PUTTING A BUILDING ON TOP OF YOUR GAS STATION OR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON TOP OF YOUR GAS STATION. YES, SIR.

BECAUSE THAT WAS THE IDEA.

THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TOLD FROM THE GOAT MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT THESE THESE ARE FEASIBLE WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESS.

BECAUSE THE BAYFRONT DEVELOPMENT IS BASED ON A MIXED USE, YOU CAN USE THE SAME LOCATION FOR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND A RESIDENCE.

RIGHT. THAT'S THE KIND OF IMAGE THEY ARE PUTTING ON THE BAY FRONT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PART, BUT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A RESIDENTIAL.

I'M TRYING TO PICTURE IN MY HEAD BECAUSE I'M GETTING A NOT A GOOD, NOT A GOOD SIGHT.

MAYBE YOU COULD CLEAR IT UP FOR ME.

MR., GARY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS OR OFFICE BUILDINGS ABOVE A GAS STATION.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE SERVING CARS, COULD GET HOME AND FUEL UP WELL AND SHOP.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME.

OK, WELL, I CAN. I CAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ENLIGHTEN YOU A LITTLE BETTER.

THIS PROPERTY IS IT HAS TERESE STREETS.

US ONE, RIGHT? ANGLER DRIVE AND READ ROAD BACK.

SO WHAT HAPPENED? YOU PUT A BUILDING ON TOP, FOR INSTANCE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCESS THE TOP BILLING FROM THE US, ONE WHERE YOU OPERATE THE GAS STATION, YOU CAN OPERATE IT FROM RIDGE ROAD.

SO PEOPLE THAT OCCUPIED THAT SECTION CAN GO IN THE BACK.

YOU HAVE A BIG PARKING ERA.

THIS PLACE IS A LITTLE OVER HALF AN ACRE, SO IT'S FEASIBLE.

AND AS I SAID, WE I WENT OVER THIS WITH THE GOOD MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS FEASIBLE AND PRACTICAL, AND THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND APPLY FOR THIS REZONING.

SO COUNCILMAN FOSTER, AND I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE IT WITH YOU AS WELL, RIGHT? SO I THINK LET'S SAY THIS IS THE GAS.

THESE ARE THE GAS PUMPS, AND I THINK HE HAS LIKE A LITTLE STOREFRONT.

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THAT STOREFRONT IS THAT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO? YES, SIR. ON TOP OF THE BUILDING AND YOU'LL HAVE AN ENTRANCE FROM THE BACK, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BACK ON RIDGE ROAD INSTEAD OF THE FRONT WHERE YOU GO TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE OR THE GAS STATION IN THE FRONT.

OK. YEAH, I GOT IT.

THANK YOU. OK.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? ADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANTED TO ADD ANY COMMENTS.

NO, SIR, JUST THIS IS A WELL, I GUESS I'LL JUST ADD THAT THIS IS BEING MOVED, SO THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MIXTURES OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

SO BASED ON OUR READING OF THE ORDINANCE, THE ADDITION OF A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, THE GAS STATION, AS IT STANDS TODAY, WOULD BE ALLOWABLE IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING.

THE MAYOR, JOHNSON AND SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS.

THE COMPLETE WITH YOUR APPLICATION OR ANY DISCUSSION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER. NO, SIR, I THINK IT'S OK WITH ME BECAUSE AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, STAFF, I'D I'D RECOMMEND THIS THIS VENTURE AND I'M UP, I'M UP FOR IT.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD.

I WOULDN'T MIND GETTING SOME APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A A MOTION MOTION APPROVED.

CASEY DASH 50 FOUR DASH.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND.

I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? JUST REAL QUICK BECAUSE COUNCILMAN FELIX YOU'RE ASKING.

YOU'RE ASKING EVERYTHING, MAN, YOU'RE ON IT, YOU'RE ON IT BECAUSE THOSE ARE VALID QUESTIONS. BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE WE, THE MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, AS A BUSINESS, HE IS WITHIN HIS RIGHT TO DO THIS.

SO. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THIS, THIS MOTION.

SO. HAVE YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN? WELL, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A GAS STATION APARTMENT OR LIVING ABOVE A GAS STATION BECAUSE OF THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL THAT'S GOING TO BE AT YOUR GAS STATION.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN.

OF. SEE OUR FIRE, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE FIRE CHIEF.

WEIGH IN ON THAT.

BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO IT.

EVEN THOUGH I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH IT DOING IT, BUT YOUR BUSINESS AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GOOD LUCK TO YOU. I JUST WANTED TO.

THAT'S MY CONCERN, SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED.

AND AND YOU'RE SPOT ON.

I THINK WE'RE ALL IN THAT SAME QUANDARY, RIGHT? BUT THEY'RE PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUES HERE.

THEY'RE THERE'S BUSINESS ISSUES.

SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

WE HAVE A SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY TO 18, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY FIVE ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING CONTRACTORS OFFICE AS A PERMITTED USE. AND EIGHT SEE HOW A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

ANYTHING ELSE? TONY MS. OWN FOUR TWO SEVEN FIVE ALYSSA LANE, WEST MELBOURNE, FOR THE APPLICANT AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO JUST ALLOW TO USE THAT THE APPLICANT IS PURCHASING THE PROPERTY FOR WHICH IS AN ALUMINUM AND SCREENING BUSINESS THAT HE'LL BE AS A CONTRACTOR. HE'LL BE STORING MATERIALS ON SITE, DOING SOME ASSEMBLY, HAVING TRUCKS.

IT'S VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING USES AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS.

MR MASON. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. ADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO ADD ANY STAFF COMMENTS.

A NOTHING FURTHER BEYOND WHAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING, NONE. I'M GOING TO.

WHAT WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING AS COUNSEL FOR A MOTION A MOTION APPROVAL ON ITS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH 18 FIRST READING, SECOND ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN?

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HI, HI PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WHERE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX? IT IS TWENTY TO TWENTY TWENTY TWO DEATHS, 19.

AN ORDER TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY FIVE ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING K-9 TRAINING AND SIMILAR USES AS A PERMITTED USE IN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD AND PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS KIM BAYS, I'M REPRESENTING ROCK AND DOGS, POSITIVE DOG TRAINING LOCATED AT THIRTY FIVE FORTY JUPITER BOULEVARD IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT CHANGE.

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

MA'AM, THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, SIR, THANK YOU. HE WENT IN, THE AUDIENCE, WISHED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

YOU NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK FOR A MOTION A MOTION IMPROVEMENT IS 20 20 TO 19.

FIRST READING SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, IS FOR ALL UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY TWO.

ZERO ONE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF AN ADJACENT TO MELBOURNE TILLMANN WATER CONTROLLED DISTRICT CANAL SEVEN AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR FILING A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF BREVARD COUNTY.

THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD. THAT THEIR CASE.

YES, BEFORE WE WHEN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, JACK, I JUST WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT.

SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST INTRODUCING YOURSELF AND ALLOW ME TO MAKE A COMMENT, I'D APPRECIATE. HI, MY NAME IS JACK KIRSHENBAUM.

I'M A LAWYER WITH THE FIRM OF GRAY ROBINSON.

AND MY ADDRESS IS 1870 NASSAU BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

AND I DID MEET WITH MR. KIRSCHENBAUM REGARDING THIS ANNEXATION.

SO I JUST WANTED THAT FOR THE RECORD.

CARRY ON, SIR. THANK YOU.

WITH ME TONIGHT IS.

ON THIS SIDE, ALEX DE SCHABIR, WHO IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER, YOU'LL HEAR FROM HIM IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

AND HASSAN KAMAL FROM BSEE ENGINEERING, HE'S OUR TECHNICAL GUY.

FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF FOR ALLOWING US TO APPEAR HERE THIS EVENING.

WE ARE BEFORE YOU ON THREE MATTERS NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER NINE.

THE FIRST, OF COURSE, IS THE ISSUE OF ANNEXATION.

THE SECOND IS THE SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT HAS SAW IT.

AND THE THIRD IS A REZONING WITHOUT GETTING TERRIBLY ESOTERIC.

NOTHING IS MORE COMFORTING THAN A WELCOME THAT IS SOUGHT.

THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE COUNTY, AND ALEX WILL TALK ABOUT THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT BEING IN THE COUNTY OR BEING IN PALM BAY.

AND NOTHING IS MORE COMFORTING THAN A WELCOME THAT IS SOFT, AND WE ARE SEEKING TO BE IN PALM BAY AND THE STAFF HAS BEEN WELCOMING IN ASSISTING US IN UNDERSTANDING YOUR CODES, YOUR REQUIREMENTS, THE PROCEDURES AND ALL THOSE MATTERS TO BRING THE ANNEXATION BEFORE YOU. THAT WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE ANNEXATION, WHICH WON'T BE TOO LONG, BUT IT REALLY APPLIES BOTH TO THE PLANNED REQUEST AS WELL AS THE REZONING.

AND I KNOW THAT THE REZONING IS A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.

THIS IS NOT, BUT WE WILL DRAG ALL THAT, WHICH WE ARE SAYING INTO THAT THAT NUMBER NINE,

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NOW, LAWYERS SAY EVERYTHING THREE TIMES.

SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT NINE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUBJECT YOU TO THAT.

BUT LET'S JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE LAND IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MALABAR ROAD ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST, BUT IT IS JUST EAST OF THE MALABAR ROAD INTERSECTION WITH THE ST JOHN'S PARKWAY. THE PROPERTY IS TWENTY SEVEN POINT NINETY ONE ACRES.

ITS WEST BOUNDARY WILL BE IF THE PARKWAY, WHEN THE PARKWAY IS EXTENDED, IT'LL BE ON THE WEST BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.

CURRENTLY, IT'S IN BREVARD COUNTY.

IT'S ZONED REZ ONE.

WE'RE SEEKING A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

I'M SORRY COMP PLAN AND IT IS ZONED IN BREVARD COUNTY, AEW AND WE'RE SEEKING RMB 10 10 UNITS PER ACRE.

I'LL BET EVERYBODY IS ASKING THE NEXT QUESTION.

WHY? WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE ANNEXED? WHY DO YOU WANT TO COME AND CHANGE? WHY DO YOU WANT A REZONING? ALEX WILL TALK IN JUST A MINUTE AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, A SHORT PRESENTATION ON THE SCREENS.

THIS IS GOING TO PRESENT OR PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY, A UNIQUE NEW OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.

IT'S SUCCESSFUL EVERYWHERE.

STELLA'S DONE IT BEFORE AND YOU'LL HEAR A BIT ABOUT THAT.

IT IS A GATED, UPSCALE, SECURE GREEN RENTAL COMMUNITY.

IT LOOKS JUST LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY.

THESE SIMPLE SAIL COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S A RENTAL COMMUNITY WITH RENTAL RATES THAT ARE COMMENSURATE WITH HAVING YARDS AND.

COMMUNITY CENTERS AND POOLS AND THE SECURITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S GREEN, IT'S UPSCALE, IT'S UNIQUE, AND ALEX AND HIS COMPANY WANT TO DO IT AND PALM BAY. SO WITH THAT, ALEX, THERE YOU ARE.

I KEEP LOSING YOU.

IF YOU COULD GO TO THE PRESENTATION AND I DO HAVE.

SOME TO HAND OUT IN THE AUDIENCE IF ANYBODY WANTS ONE, AND I HAVE ONE FOR MADAM CLERK AS WELL. BERNIE.

COME ON. THANK YOU, JACK, FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR STAFF, APPRECIATE IT.

SO AS JACK WAS SAYING, MY NAME IS ALEX DE SCHABIR, I'M WITH STELLAR COMMUNITIES, THE DIVISION PRESIDENT FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2009 IN SOUTH FLORIDA, AND NOW WE'RE EXPANDING NORTH.

I LIVE IN BROWARD COUNTY, ADDRESS 175 CITIZENS DRIVE IN MELBOURNE BEACH.

AND THIS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL.

LIKE JACK SAID, IT LIVES LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY, A COMMUNITY.

IT'S A CASINO VILLA PRODUCT.

WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE 266 UNITS AT THIS SPECIFIC SITE.

THE AMENITY IS GOING TO BE GORGEOUS.

THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS SHOWN HERE.

WHAT KIND OF FAST FORWARD THROUGH THE SLIDE SO YOU CAN SEE IT.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPANY.

WE'VE BEEN DEEP ROOTED IN QUALITY.

WE BUILT UPSCALE COMMUNITIES, AS JACK MENTIONED.

AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

THAT'S THE AREA OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS, JACK ALREADY EXPLAINED THE INTERSECTION ST.

JOHN'S PARKWAY, MALABAR ROAD.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE COMMUNITY.

ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT, ZOOM IS NOT WORKING, OK? YEAH, IT'S OFF, THE TOP OF US WENT TO THE NEXT.

BUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT THERE, KIND OF TOP CENTER OF THE SCREEN, SOMEWHERE AROUND A 5000 SQUARE FOOT AMENITY, LARGE GYM, MULTIPURPOSE ROOM OFFICES, RESTROOMS AND THEN A LARGE POOL AREA POOL DECK, VERY RESORT STYLE AMENITY.

WE'RE ALSO PLANNING TO HAVE A DOG PARK HERE.

WE'RE ALSO PLANNING TO HAVE A TOT LOT.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO GATED AT THE FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THIS KIND OF SHOWS HOW THE CASITAS ARE THE CASITAS IS A IS A CLUSTERED PRODUCT, SO IT'S NOT A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY LOT.

THEY'RE CLUSTERED TOGETHER SO THAT YOU FEEL FAIRLY CLOSE TO YOUR NEIGHBOR.

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THEY'RE NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM YOU.

THIS IS A SIMILAR ON THE LEFT SIDE COMMUNITY WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY IN PORT ST.

LUCIE AND TRADITIONS IN VERONA.

THAT COMMUNITY IS 150 UNITS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. ARE THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE IN DAVENPORT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW THAT WILL BE STARTING TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND THAT IS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN UNITS AS WELL.

SIMILARLY OUT.

SO THE TYPICAL AMENITIES HERE, COMMUNITY SWIMMING POOL, BARBECUE AREA, PICNIC AREAS, FITNESS CENTER, CLUBHOUSE BUILDING, AND THEN WE DO HAVE GARAGE SPACES FOR RENT, SO THEY'LL BE OPEN PARKING, BUT THEY'LL ALSO BE GARAGE BUILDINGS, AS YOU WOULD SEE IN AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE CAN RENT THOSE GATED ENTRY PET FRIENDLY.

WE HAVE THE OPEN SPACE IN THE BACK WHILE DOG PARK, THEY SAID.

AND THEN TOP LIGHT. WE DO TALL CEILINGS.

WE DO 10 FOOT CEILINGS.

THE FINISHES ARE ALL WHICH YOU WOULD SEE IN A VERY NICE BUILDER QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD, SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS AND SOME PICTURES OF SOME OF THE PRODUCT, THE TOP ARE SOME OF OUR COMPETITION IN ORLANDO AREA THAT'S ALREADY STARTED THIS PRODUCT.

WE DON'T HAVE OUR PRODUCT QUITE UP IN VERANO RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE DOING LAND DEVELOPMENT.

THE LOWER PICTURE IS ANOTHER COMMUNITY OUT WEST JUST KIND OF DEPICTS WHAT THIS IS.

IT'S A VILLA. NO GARAGE.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE ACTUAL RENDITIONS OF THE UNITS THEMSELVES.

WE HAVE A UNIT A WHICH IS A ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATH DUPLEX, UNIT B IS A TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH AND THEN A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH AT THE BOTTOM.

AND THEN JUST THE LAYOUTS OF THE OF THE HOMES, SO THEY DO LIVE LIKE SINGLE FAMILY, REALLY, THE ONLY THING YOU'RE LACKING HERE IS A GARAGE.

THE TWO BEDROOM UNIT, A THREE BEDROOM.

WITH THAT, I OPEN ANY QUESTIONS STAFF MIGHT HAVE COUNCILWOMAN ALSO ANY QUESTIONS.

AND FOSTER. WHAT TYPE OF RESIDENTS YOU GET, YOUNGER RESIDENTS OR OLDER RETIREES? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? IT'S HONESTLY A MIX, SO WE'LL HAVE SOME SNOWBIRDS, SOME RETIREES, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED AND MAYBE HAVE CONDO, BUT THEY HAVE AN ANIMAL AND THEY DON'T WANT THE UP AND DOWN. THEY WON'T HAVE A YARD AGAIN.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BARBECUE OUTSIDE, SO THEY STILL WANT THAT SINGLE FAMILY FEEL.

THEN WE ALSO GET PEOPLE, YOUNGER FAMILIES THAT HAVEN'T QUITE SETTLED ON AN AREA.

SO MAYBE THEY COME HERE FOR WORK, TRANSITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY DON'T QUITE KNOW WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE IN PALM BAY.

SO WE SEE THIS AS KIND OF AN INTERMEDIATE.

THEY CAN KIND OF LIVE IN A RENTAL BRAND NEW UNIT AS THEY WOULD IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND DECIDE WHAT COMMUNITY THEY WANT TO BE IN.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DICTATE MOSTLY TO.

THE ATTORNEY TALKING ABOUT GREEN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GREEN GREEN MEANS ARE BUILDING PRACTICES AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, DOING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, USING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY MATERIALS IN THE HOMES.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO ALL LED LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE HOME.

WE USE ENERGY EFFICIENT APPLIANCES.

THE UNITS WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH A TANKLESS WATER HEATER, WHICH IS ALSO ENERGY EFFICIENT.

WE DO EV OUTLETS IN ALL THE GARAGES IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTRICAL VEHICLE.

SO WE DO THINGS LIKE THAT TO PROMOTE GREEN LIVING.

WE ALSO DO TECH PACKAGES IN ALL THE UNITS.

THAT'S SOMETHING NOT ALL THE RENTAL COMMUNITIES HAVE.

SO EVERYBODY WILL HAVE LIKE A RING DOORBELL WHEN YOU COME UP SO YOU CAN SEE WHO'S COMING IN YOUR DOOR. YOUR THERMOSTAT WILL BE WIFI CONTROLLED IN THE UNIT.

SO IT'S VERY TECHIE AND EVERYBODY WILL HAVE CONTROL TO IT LIKE.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? THANK YOU. IT SINCE IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT, I MEAN, I CERTAINLY WILL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRY HARD TO SELL ME ON THIS, THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR MANY, MANY REASONS.

THE THE DENSITY ASPECT, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO PACK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO MANY HOMES INTO ONE ONE.

YOU KNOW THAT 10, 10 OR 10, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

LIKE I SAID, EVERY EVERY ASPECT OF IT, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY WELCOME IT.

THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS, ARE WE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MARKET RATE OR WHAT? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING IN TERMS OF PRICING OF RENT? YES. SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING MARKET ANALYSIS AS EVERYONE KNOWS, THE RENTS ARE GOING UP.

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RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE UPPER $1.

90 CENTS TO LOW $2 SQUARE FOOT.

THANK YOU. WHICH WAS RIGHT.

I'M JUST EXCITED THAT WE'RE ANNEXING.

BUT I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT LOCATION, FOR YOU TO BUILD THAT OUT AND BE PART OF THE COUNTY AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MISFORTUNE FOR OUR CITIZENS.

I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.

SO I WAS EXCITED.

THAT'S WHY I AGREED TO TO MEET WITH YOU AND JACK, BECAUSE I WAS EXCITED THAT YOU DID WANT TO EMBRACE AND COME INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I'LL REITERATE WHAT JACK SAID.

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY ACCOMMODATING AND COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU.

YOU. MS. SHERMAN, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD.

NOTHING FURTHER, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

HEY. AND I JUST WANTED TO TO SAY, BECAUSE I'M A LAWYER OF YOUR STAFF AND YOUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY HAS HAS OPINED IN THE REPORT THAT THIS MEETS ALL STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR ANNEXATION.

I JUST THOUGHT I NEEDED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SPEAKER CARD'S DEPUTY MAYOR, SIR NATHAN WHITE.

YOU CAN WAIT 13 OH, ONE SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.

SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THIS ANNEXATION.

HOMEBASE, THE LARGEST CITY IN BOVARD, SECOND LARGEST IN ALL OF CENTRAL FLORIDA, AND ONLY 40 PERCENT IF WE'VE ACTUALLY REACHED THAT MARK BECAUSE LAST I CHECKED, WHICH WAS A BIT AGO, WE HADN'T QUITE REACHED 40 PERCENT DEVELOPED.

SO 60 PERCENT UNDEVELOPED.

WE'RE GOING TO ANNEX AN ADDITIONAL TWENTY SEVEN, ALMOST TWENTY EIGHT ACRES FROM THE COUNTY. ONLY TO IMMEDIATELY REZONE IT FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AT.

I AM CONFUSED BY THE MOTIVATION FOR THAT MOVE.

I WAS HOPING COUNSEL COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT, A LITTLE CONCERNED BY THE NUMBERS AS WELL. I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED 266 UNITS WAS THE THOUGHT.

YOU ARE IN THIS ACREAGE THAT WOULD BE NINE POINT FIVE THREE UNITS.

OR A.. COMING VERY CLOSE TO, I BELIEVE, THE.

LIMIT OF THE ZONING MS. BEING REQUESTED OF 10 UNITS PER ACRE, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND THAT'S NOT CONSIDERING ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE OF THE RECREATION AREA.

ALL OF THE NON LIVING SPACE, BUILDINGS, AREAS THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT IN THIS AREA, WHICH MEANS THAT WOULD VERY, VERY QUICKLY RACK THAT NUMBER UP A GREAT DEAL.

AND AGAIN, REITERATING THE DEEP, DEEP ABIDING CONCERN THAT I'VE MENTIONED ON A FEW OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BY THE SCHOOL.

A LOT OF KIDS WALK TO THAT SCHOOL.

THERE'S A ONE LANE FOR EACH DIRECTION ROAD.

THE ONLY OTHER ROAD NEARBY SAINT JOHN HERITAGE.

ALSO ONE LANE.

EACH DIRECTION. NO STOPLIGHT.

NOT THAT THAT WOULD REALLY HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THOUGH IT MIGHT HELP WITH POTENTIAL INJURIES.

AND WE ALREADY APPROVED, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY NOT LONG AGO, AN EIGHT HUNDRED OR SO, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT NUMBER DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, WHICH WILL HAVE NO ACCESS EXCEPT FOR THAT TINY PIECE OF ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION ROAD, WHICH GOES DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE SCHOOL.

AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING AN EXTRA 266 UNITS.

SO THAT MEANS 266 OR MORE VEHICLES BY ALL LIKELIHOOD, RIGHT THERE AGAIN.

I DON'T THINK.

BUT THAT IS ADVISABLE WITH REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC AREA AND THE SCHOOL AND THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S MORE OF A COMMENT. SO THE FIRST PART BEING THE QUESTION OF HOPING FOR AN ANSWER FOR IT. THANK YOU. OK.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

YOU KNOW, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN MORE LAND, SMALLER HOUSES.

BUT WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED DURING PLANNING AND ZONING AND I WATCHED IT, I SAW THIS AS SOLVING SOME OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE HAD NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AVAILABLE.

IT WAS JUST NOT THERE.

PEOPLE COULD NOT AFFORD TO BUY THEIR OWN HOUSE, BUT THEY MIGHT QUALIFY AND MY, MY KIDS

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THE OTHER THING WAS THAT I WOULD MUCH RATHER THAT TAX DOLLAR, IF IT'S LAND IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, WHETHER IT'S CITY OF PALM BAY OR IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED FOR THE POOR BREVARD COUNTY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THIS TAX REVENUE COMING IN TO OFFSET MY TAX DOLLAR. THAT'S WHAT I PREFER TO SEE.

BUT BILL BEING THE GLASS ALWAYS HALF EMPTY INSTEAD OF HALF FULL PERSON THAT HE IS.

HE HAS TWO QUESTIONS.

ARE THEY RECEIVING ANY TAX ABATEMENT FROM THE CITY IF THIS HAPPENS, ANY TAX ABATEMENT FROM THE CITY OR OR.

WHAT'S THE OTHER TERM WHERE WE GIVE THEM TAX CREDITS IF EITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE GOING TO HAPPEN? I LIKE THE HEAD GOING LIKE THIS THAT MAKES ME FEEL MUCH BETTER.

THANK YOU. AND I LIKE THE PROJECT AND I EVEN THOUGH I BOUGHT MORE LAND, SMALLER HOUSES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF.

WOULD YOU LIKE EXCUSE ME? JACK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OR TURN IT BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE MADE BY MR. WHITE? WELL, I WOULD POINT OUT AND YOU COULDN'T SEE IT ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR WHEN THE ROAD IS WIDE AND HAS ALREADY CONTEMPLATED IN THE IN THE SITE PLAN, IT WAS AT 100 FEET.

ABOUT 100 FEET OF THE FRONTAGE IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD.

AND I THINK THAT THE THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE GOING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM THAT ROAD AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

SPEAK TO THE TAX ABATEMENT OR CREDITS.

FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO TAX ABATEMENTS, NO TAX CREDITS.

THIS IS A COMPLETELY BEING FUNDED BY THE DEVELOPER FOR ORDINANCES AND.

JUST BRIEFLY ON THE TRAFFIC CONVERSATION AS COUNCILS WHERE AND JUST FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE SPACE COAST TPO ON CURRENTLY FUNDED PLANNING OR THE WIDENING OF MALABAR THAT WAS ALREADY FUNDED.

THOSE DESIGNS OR PRELIMINARY DESIGNS, I GUESS TECHNICALLY ARE ALL HAVE BEEN WORKED THROUGH AND THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING THAT'S ALREADY DONE.

THE NEXT STEP IS TO FUND THE ACTUAL DESIGN PHASE, AND THEN WE WOULD MOVE TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE VERY HIGH DOLLARS, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE THAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO COME TO COUNCIL THIS THIS NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, PROBABLY AT THE LATEST.

TO GIVE YOU OUR ADVISEMENT AND OUR PLAN FOR HOW WE WILL JOINTLY WITH THE TPO, GET THE NEXT PHASE FUNDED, WE'RE DESIGNED.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON.

AND THERE'S ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS CURRENTLY ON THE PARKWAY MALABAR INTERSECTION FOR SIGNALIZATION IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OR THE APPLICANTS HAVE ANY CLOSING REMARKS.

THINK NOTHING FURTHER, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. THEN I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED WARRANT IS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH ONE.

FIRST READING SECOND AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? I LIKE THE SIR COUNCILMAN FOSTER, PLEASE.

I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PROJECT.

I DON'T LIVE TOO FAR FROM WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING AND THERE IS A TRAFFIC CONCERN.

AND I TRAVELED AT SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY IN MALABAR.

I JUST LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THAT AND THE TRAFFIC IS GETTING HEAVY.

BUT. WHAT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO YOU'RE JUST GOING TO ENLIGHTEN RIGHT IN THAT AREA. HOUSES ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE MOVING.

THERE'S A LOT OF COWS OUT THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE MOVING, BUT THAT'S DEVELOPMENT AND BUT.

I THINK THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO REALLY MAKE PALM BAY SHINE, AND THAT'S THAT AREA IS DEVELOPING. WE GOT A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND YOU'RE BRINGING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. AND I LIKE THE GREEN ASPECT OF THIS, SO I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AND I'M AGAIN GOING TO REITERATE.

WELCOME TO PALM BAY.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING OR ANNEXING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BECAUSE I CONCUR WITH MASTER CHIEF. THIS PROJECT COULD HAVE GONE ON AND BE PART OF THE COUNTY AS OPPOSED TO THOSE TAX DOLLARS, ALLEVIATING THOSE RESOURCES OR OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR CITIZENS FOR THIS GREAT CITY. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING TO MY COUNCILMAN FELIX

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I PASSED HIS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.

EIGHT, AS YOU WERE EIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER, I JUST LUMPED THEM ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? EIGHT, EIGHT NINE ALTOGETHER, RIGHT? ITEM NUMBER EIGHT THAT'S YOUR WORD.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM. OR 20 20 TO DASH 20 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, OMITTING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.

ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OF PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

I'M STILL JACK KIRSCHENBAUM A LITTLE BIT OLDER TO LIVE IN THE SAME PLACE, THOUGH.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE VOTE ON THE ANNEXATION YOUR STAFF REPORT, WHICH I AM SURE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN.

I WOULD ASK BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD BECAUSE IT DOES WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO UNDER YOUR CODE TO MAKE THIS SMALL SCALE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPERTIES. AND I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IT IS A THOROUGH ANALYSIS THAT ARE ON PAGES ONE AND TWO AND THREE OF THAT REPORT.

AND RATHER THAN READING THEM ALL INTO THE RECORD, I ASK THAT THEY BE ADOPTED AND MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE ALL SAID IN THE PRIOR HEARING, WE WOULD REITERATE HERE AS WELL, AND THAT WHICH YOU'VE SEEN IS THAT WHICH THEY WANT TO DO.

AND OF COURSE, THIS COMP PLAN IS AMENDMENT IS REQUIRED TO DO THAT, AS IS THE REZONING.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD, I MET WITH JACK FOR THE ANNEXATION PROCESS, BUT IN THE EVENT WHICH I DON'T RECALL THAT ANY ZONING ISSUES CAME UP BECAUSE THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL, I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL US SPEAKING ABOUT THE REZONING.

BUT I WANT TO PLAY IT SAFE.

I KNOW OUR OUR MEETING WAS STRICTLY SOLELY BASED ON THE ANNEXATION OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IN THE EVENT. SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE BEEN SAID INADVERTENTLY THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DISCLOSE THAT.

SO THAT BEING SAID, MADAM SHERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I KNOW, SIR, THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

ALSO ANY QUESTIONS.

OF STAFF. HEY, SPEAK CARD'S DEPUTY MAYOR, ETHAN WHITE.

YOU CAN WAIT 13 ON ONE SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.

OH, WELL, BUT.

I FORGOT A QUESTION THAT I HAD, THANKFULLY, THIS ITEM IS DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THE PREVIOUS, AND THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF I DON'T REMEMBER THE WORDING. WHY EXPLAINING WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT TO BE IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT WHY CHOOSING THEIR CHOOSING PALM BAY INSTEAD OF BREVARD COUNTY.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY ADDRESSED, THAT IS A POINT OF CURIOSITY OF MINE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE MANY POSSIBLE REASONS I CAN THINK OF ALL OF THEM EASILY.

COMBINED INTO THE STATEMENT, GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH, THAT'S NOT A BUSINESS REASON, AND I'M CURIOUS TO THEIR BUSINESS MINDED REASON FOR WANTING TO BE IN PALM BAY AS OPPOSED TO BREVARD COUNTY.

THE ONLY ONE THAT I CAN THINK OF IS THAT BREVARD COUNTY WOULDN'T RESUME THE LAND.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR THEIR BUSINESS MINDED ANSWER TO THAT QUERY OF WHY THEY CHOSE TO CHOOSE PALM BAY. THANK YOU.

YOU. WELL, THE APPLICANT WISH TO STEP FORWARD FOR LAST REMARKS AND PERHAPS ANSWER.

SURE. I'M JUST A LAWYER THAT I'VE WORKED WITH ALEC NOW FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS ON THIS PROJECT. THERE IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CHANCE IN MY MIND THAT BREVARD COUNTY WOULD HAVE AMENDED THEIR COMP PLAN AND REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO HAVE THIS PROJECT.

THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND, AFTER ALL THE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WE

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ALL THE OTHER REASONS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO BE IN A CITY AS OPPOSED TO THE COUNTY.

BUT THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT NOW FOR SEVEN MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS.

WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT OR THE REZONING IN BREVARD COUNTY SHOULD WE HAVE CHOSE THAT PATH.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT LOOKING AT IT AND WERE THE WINNER.

PALM BAY WAS THE WINNER BY FAR.

YOU ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

OF. IF DECIDED.

TRUSTEE, M.. THANK YOU, FOSTER M.

ISD REALTY, 14:55 SOUTH, WELCOME.

I JUST WANTED TO COME UP, I'M WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT HERE ON THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY THEY WERE CONSIDERING TO GO TO COUNTY, EXCUSE ME, JUMPED UP REAL QUICK TO JUST TALK ABOUT THIS. AND I DID BRING UP TO THEM THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT BRINGING THIS INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNTY WAS OPEN ARMS TO BRING THIS IN.

I THOUGHT WITH THE UTILITIES AND THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE WHERE NOBODY'S DOING THAT, IT MADE PERFECT SENSE.

SO WERE ALREADY PIVOTED TO GO THAT WAY.

AND THEY BROUGHT IT BACK. I BELIEVE WE ALREADY SIGNED.

HOPKINS, ALREADY SIGNED THE PAPERS, NOTARIZED.

IT DID A 180, SO IT WOULD HAVE MOVED THROUGH THE OTHER WAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WELCOME.

I HAVE A QUESTION. YES.

AT THE TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER, WAS THIS THE PROJECT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THEN? YES. OK. ALL RIGHT.

BECAUSE I'M OK, I'M GOOD.

YEAH, THAT'S WHY.

YEAH, COUNCILMAN FOSTER. IT WAS AT THE TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER.

YES, SIR. THAT IMPRESS YOU TO BRING THIS INTO PALM BAY THAT DISCUSSION WE HAD, WE WAS OPEN FOR BUSINESS. YES, SIR, IT WAS.

I'M TRYING TO STAY INVOLVED IN THAT.

WORKING ON SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS HERE AND I SAT IN SOME OF THE PLANNING AND MEETINGS WE'VE BEEN HAVING HERE. WE DID THE STICKERS AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF THROUGH THERE. AND TO SEE THIS LOSE, THEY LOSE US.

I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING IT UP.

AND WHAT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT OFF THE SUBJECT, BUT WHAT WAS YOUR.

I'M OF THAT MEETING THAT WE HAD THIS COUNCIL HAD WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT OR DOING BUSINESS WITH PALM BAY? ON WHAT WAS A COMPLETE 180 AFTER PROBABLY THAT MEETING, I WAS GLAD I CAME IN THERE AND EVERYBODY, I THINK, PAID ATTENTION AND LISTENED AND LISTENED TO MY COMMENTS AND I THOUGHT THAT MEANT A LOT. SO IT WAS.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BRING MORE PROJECTS IN AND WORKING WITH THE SEEING PALM BAY.

IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN, AS WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, IT'S NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME.

BILL'S LAUGHING, BUT THERE'S BEEN CHALLENGES IN THE PAST AND I FEEL LIKE PALM BAY IS OPENING AND LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS AND TAX DOLLARS AND MAKING IT MORE AND MORE FRIENDLY ACROSS THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER FOR THE QUESTION AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, RUSTY. YES, SIR.

BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I DO WANT TO THANK AS I REMEMBER IT, I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND THIS COUNCIL FOR THAT MEETING BECAUSE IT GOES TO SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LISTENED WELL, JUST PLANNING THE MEETING AHEAD.

YOU KNOW, WE LISTENED AND HERE WE ARE.

AND IT'S THE FRUITS OF THE LABOR RIGHT HERE.

SO I'M EXCITED.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR WELL, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT SETS THE TONE.

THE REPUTATION OF OUR STAFF IS IS GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S IMPECCABLE AND THE FACT THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN WORK TOGETHER TO TRULY, TRULY PROCLAIM THAT THIS IS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, I PRIDE MYSELF ON THE BACK HERE.

I THINK THE IDEA WAS MINE, BUT IN REALITY IT WAS.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT WAS TRULY AN EFFORT OF THIS WHOLE COUNCIL.

BUT THE ORIGINAL COUNCILMAN FELIX, I'M SORRY.

YEAH. NO, NO, NO. ALL RIGHT, SIR.

BUT I'M VERY MODEST, BY THE WAY.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

BUT WE WERE ALL ON BOARD.

YOU WERE. WE WERE ALL ON BOARD.

BUT WE'LL LET YOU TAKE THAT SPOTLIGHT.

BROTHER COUNCILMAN FELIX DID DID INITIATE THAT.

HE DID BRING IT, BRING THAT PLAN FORWARD.

BUT THE REPUTATION OF THIS, THIS CITY IS DEFINITELY THINGS ARE BRIGHTER IN THIS CITY AND IT'S BECAUSE OF EVERYONE'S EFFORT, EACH AND EVERY TEAM MEMBER AND WE HAVE STAFF TO THANK.

AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE.

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ANYTHING ELSE, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED AS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER NINE.

ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH TWENTY ONE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BURAK COUNTY, FLORIDA, OMITTING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM A NEW AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL OF OUR COUNTY TO AM 10 SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF AN ADJACENT TO MELBOURNE TILLMANN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL SEVEN ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO AGAIN STEP FORWARD.

I'LL BE EVEN QUICKER THIS TIME, JACK KIRSCHENBAUM, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST RATHER THAN READING AND GOING INTO ALL THE ISSUES, I LIKE THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT PAGE.

ONE OF THE STAFF REPORT CONTAINS ALL THE NECESSARY RECITATIONS IN FACTS THAT SUPPORT THE APPLICATION FOR REZONING AND ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT WE MADE AND ALL THE EVIDENCE WE PRESENTED WITH REGARDS TO ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT.

WE LIKE TO REASSERT HERE WITHOUT THE NECESSITY OF SAYING THEM AND DOING THEM AGAIN.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY ANY, AND WE FEEL THAT THIS PROJECT AND PALM BAY JUST REALLY CAN WORK TOGETHER IN THIS REZONING IS IS JUST THE CHERRY ON THE CAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS THE PROJECT WE GET AND YOU GET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR SIR? AS YOU WERE, I GUESS NOT.

EVERY MAYOR JOHNSON, ANY SPEAKER CARDS, NATHAN WHITE.

IT CAN WAIT 13 01 SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'M GOING TO TRY ONE MORE TIME.

THIS COUNCIL HAS, EVEN IN THIS MEETING, ADDRESSED OR VOICED THEIR DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT THE ISSUES OF TRAFFIC IN CERTAIN AREAS AND THEIR DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC BY REPLACING A GAS STATION WITH A CAR WASH.

BUT ADDING. OVER TWO HUNDRED VEHICLES RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.

NOT A PROBLEM. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LACK OF CONNECTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO POINTS.

THIS COUNCIL IS ALSO IN RECENT MEETINGS VOICED.

EXTENSIVELY DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN PALM BAY.

AND. NOT HEATED THE OPINIONS OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE DISAGREED WITH THE EXACT PLACEMENT OF SOME OF THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND YET WE'RE AGAIN BRINGING IN PART OF BREVARD COUNTY DESPITE BEING 60 PERCENT UNDEVELOPED. TO TURN IT INTO.

A MASSIVELY COMPACT RESIDENT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE BY THE GENTLEMAN'S OWN FIGURES, ONE UNIT COULD POSSIBLY COST AS MUCH AS $2000 A MONTH IN RENT.

BASED ON THAT, I SPENT ABOUT TWO DOLLARS PER SQUARE FEET.

IF THAT WAS ONE OF THE ENDS OF THE RANGE, I BELIEVE THAT HE MENTIONED WHICH WAS AN APPROXIMATION STILL.

I DON'T THINK THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I DON'T THINK IT FITS WITH THE VISION THAT HAS BEEN SPOKEN OF.

BY THIS COUNCIL IN RECENT MONTHS.

CURIOUS TO HEAR.

HOW IT DOES. THANK YOU.

Q, ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, MADAM SHERMAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE? DISCUSS HOW THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS WITH THE SPACE COAST TPO, CAN WE GO DOWN THAT PATH FOR FOR A SECOND AND THEN CAN WE DISCUSS HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE ENSUED WITH THE COUNTY AND NOT TAKING ANY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE NOT HAD THE.

THE OPPORTUNITY OF GETTING THOSE THOSE TAX, THOSE TAX FUNDS.

I GUESS MIA AND I APOLOGIZE, I HAD TO GO TO THE RESTROOM, SO IF I MISSED ANYTHING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. SO JUST, I GUESS, A LITTLE FURTHER EXPANSION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TPO AND THE STUDY THAT'S BEING DONE FOR MALABAR ROAD.

THAT'S A FULL, FULL WIDENING PLAN THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT FROM BASICALLY MINTON ALL THE

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IT IS THE ISD INI.

THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN IS ESSENTIALLY IN THE FINAL STAGES.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE FINAL STEPS.

IT'S A IT'S A.

OTHER INVOLVED PROCESS THAT INVOLVES STATE FDOT, BUT THE FINAL STEPS OF THE PROCESS WILL CONCLUDE LATER THIS YEAR.

FRANK WATANABE, A CITY ENGINEER, IS IN THE BACK, SO HE'LL WAVE AT ME IF I SAY SOMETHING WRONG. BUT THE NEXT STEP, AS I MENTIONED, IS TO GET THE FUNDING TOGETHER FOR THE FULL ENGINEER DESIGN PLANS.

SO THAT'S THE NEXT STEP.

WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT PUT TOGETHER WITH THE TPUS HELP, AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW AFTER THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING.

SO IMPACT FEES ARE GROWING IN THOSE PARTICULAR ZIP CODE DISTRICTS FOR THE CITY, WHICH IS HELPFUL. THAT'S WHY WE'RE CONFIDENT WE CAN FUND THE DESIGN PHASE.

WE EXPECT THAT THE FUNDING WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND WE'LL GOAL ASSIST WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT IS REALLY WHAT IS BEING STUDIED NOW.

WE'RE ALSO SEPARATE FROM THAT, LOOKING AT SOME ROADWAY CLASSIFICATIONS FOR AREAS OFF OF THE PARKWAY LIKE EMERSON AND PACE, AND THAT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON. AND ALL THOSE ARE MEANT TO TO RECOGNIZE AND RESOLVE THE THE ISSUES THAT WE KNOW ARE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE CITY AND CERTAINLY WHAT I LIKE TO SAY THAT ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY NORTHWEST HAD BEEN PLANNED AS A FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST THE TWO LANES. YES, FOR SURE.

SO THOSE THOSE THINGS HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT STAFF IS WORKING TO GET THAT DONE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT.

EVEN IF THERE WAS NO DEVELOPMENT TODAY, IT WOULD STILL BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT AS A CITY.

AND I APOLOGIZE. WAS THERE ANOTHER PART? AND WITH THIS.

HAD THEY NOT ANNEXED THE CITY, WOULD THIS PROJECT? HAD IT BEEN, WOULD IT ENSUE? YES, CERTAINLY SO IF THEY HAD BUILT IN THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THOSE IMPACT FEES.

THE COUNTY WOULD RECEIVE THE TAXABLE VALUE.

BUT THE REALITY IS OF WHERE WE'RE WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR CITY AND WHERE THE COUNTY SERVICES ARE.

WE WOULD HIGHLY LIKELY BE THE ONES PROVIDING POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES.

OBVIOUSLY, THEY'D BE USING OUR UTILITY SERVICES.

SO IT DOES MAKE SENSE FISCALLY THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE PART OF OUR GROUP BECAUSE WE'D BE SERVING THEM ANYWAY. SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE THAT BRIEF.

ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR. DO YOU LIKE TO? CLOSING REMARKS.

I HEARD THAT THAT NO MAN EVER TALKED AND LISTENED HIMSELF INTO TROUBLE, SO I THINK I'VE TALKED QUITE ENOUGH.

THIS IS A REAL EXAMPLE OF A COOPERATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THESE DEVELOPERS AND THE AND YOUR CITY STAFF.

AND WHEN YOU WEIGH THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY AND OR HAVING IT IN THE CITY, THE BALANCE IS ON ON THE CITY BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT THAT YOUR MANAGER JUST POINTED OUT.

I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES SENSE.

IT'S JUST THE RIGHT PLACE, THE RIGHT COMPLAINT AND THE RIGHT REZONING.

THANK YOU, SIR. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

A MOTION IMPROVE ON IS TWENTY TWENTY TWO TWENTY ONE FIRST READING.

AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO COMMENT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THE ATTORNEY SAID.

IF THE COUNTY WOULD DEVELOP, THIS CITY WOULD HAVE HAD TO BUILD.

HAVE HAD TO FIRE BILL, WE HAVE THE CHIEF BILL, WE HAD TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, WOULD HAVE HAD EVERYTHING AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOT OUT.

AM I CORRECT? WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOT SOME OF THE IMPACT FEE FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S NOW WE GOT THE TAX BASE AND AND IT'S RIGHT.

LIKE THEY SAID, IT'S RIGHT TO COME INTO THE CITY, AND I APPLAUD THEM FOR DOING THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I DON'T LIVE TOO FAR FROM HERE.

YEAH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN THAT AREA AND IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY A PRIMARY TO MOVE TO AND PALM BAY.

AND THIS JUST IS GOING TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO ME IN THAT AREA AND FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

AND I JUST SEE THAT AREA EXPLODING.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC AND PTO.

THESE GUYS ON MY LEFT AND RIGHT, WE FOUGHT HARD TO GET PALM BAY UP TO THE TOP OF THE LIST OR IN THE PTO TO FUND SOME OF OUR ROAD PROJECTS.

AND I THINK WE WAS WHAT?

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NUMBER THREE AND FOUR FROM.

ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM 20 20S IN THE LOW 20S.

SO EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL, I THINK I COULD SPEAK, IS CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY AND CONCERN ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND SMART DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT AREA IS, TO ME, IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE SMARTEST AREA THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED AND IT'S GOING TO GROW REGARDLESS IF WE SIT ON OUR THUMBS AND DO NOTHING.

IT'S GOING TO GROW AND WE CAN HAVE CONTROL OR HIGH DEVELOP AND HIGH GROWTH.

AND IT'S GOING TO BRING A PALM BAY, A LOT OF TAX REVENUE AND A LOT OF JOBS AND A LOT OF NEW RESIDENTS.

AND I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT WE GOT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PARKWAY WE PASSED.

SO, YEAH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD TO PAY A DECENT, I WOULD SAY, DECENT BUT HIGH COST OF RENT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE THE PROJECT MANAGER THAT CAME UP WHO WHAT TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL WILL LEAST THERE? AND HE EXPLAINED, WHO ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THESE TYPE OF LIVING, THESE TYPE OF PLACES.

SO IT GIVES US A VARIETY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND LIVE IN PALM BAY REGARDLESS OF THEIR INCOME.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED AS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER 10.

WITNESS, TWENTY TWENTY TWO DEATHS, TWENTY TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.

ADOPTING A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ARTISTS IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD. AND PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR COUNCIL BRUCE MOYER WITH MBB ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, I WAS HOPING JACK WAS GOING TO STICK AROUND SOME NICE LAWYER COMMENTS TO MAKE, BUT I'LL I'LL SAVE THEM FOR LATER.

SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO YOU.

SO WE'RE REALLY GOING TO LUMP LIKE THEY DID.

WE'RE GOING TO LUMP 10 AND 11 TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE FOR THE SAME PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT THAT THE CITY SOLD TO, TO MR. TIMMONS TO DO WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE THE THE ONLY FIRST AND ONLY FULL SERVICE WORKING MARINA IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AT THE BAY OF PALM BAY.

VERY EXCITING AS A BOATER.

SUPER, SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ON THE WATERFRONT THAT WILL MAKE THE BAY OF PALM BAY A PLACE TO GO.

I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR CROWN JEWEL.

SO VERY EXCITED.

MR. TIMMINS IS ALREADY OWNS ANOTHER MARINA IN MALVERN, SO HE'S VERY WELL VERSED IN HOW TO RUN MARINAS. I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE PLAN, I THINK WHEN YOU SOLD THEM THE PROPERTY.

HE DIVULGED HIS PLAN FOR A FULL WORKING MARINA, INCLUDING BOAT STORAGE, INDOOR BOAT STORAGE, A RESTAURANT RETAIL BAIT SHOP.

HE EVEN BOUGHT THE OLD BAIT SHOP ON THE CORNER, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THIS PROPERTY TO DO TO MAKE IT PART OF THE PROPERTY, TO MAKE IT LOOK NICER BECAUSE THAT.

IT'S KIND OF QUAINT.

I MEAN, IT'S GOT SOME IT'S NOT A IT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO AND WE NEED TO HAVE A NICE, SHINY NEW ARENA AT THIS LOCATION.

SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE COMP PLAN AMENDED TO THE PMU.

AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM WOULD BE TO HAVE THE REZONING TO THE PMU AND THEN WE'LL GET TO WORK. AND JUST SO, YOU KNOW, MARINA IS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE CMU, SO YOU WILL SEE THE PLAN AT THE NEXT LEVEL, EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

BUT WE CAN'T GET TO THAT LEVEL UNTIL WE GET THE PLAN AND THE REZONING, SO.

YOU WILL SEE THIS COME BACK TO YOU WHEN WE HAVE A FULL PLAN.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THOSE.

SO ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. SMITH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU WANTED ADD?

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I THINK FOR ME, MAYOR, THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

IN NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION A MOTION APPROVAL AND ITS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH 20 TO ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED.

IT'S LIKE A MOTION BAILEY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YOU'RE NOT ALL IN FAVOR.

I. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, ITEM NUMBER 11.

FOURTEEN TWENTY TWENTY TWO DEATHS, TWENTY THREE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, LIMITING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, A CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM B.U.

U.V. BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT TO BE IMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHOSE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OR BISSELL AVENUE AND DIXIE HIGHWAY, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE WITH THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP. THANK YOU, MISS SMITH.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS THE APPLICANT STEPPED FORWARD AGAIN.

YES, AGAIN, BRUCE MOYER WITH ME ENGINEERING REALLY, JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR. THE MAY ONLY SPEAK SPEAKER CARD ON THIS.

HEY, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASKING FOR A A MOTION MOTION APPROVED WARRANT IS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH TWENTY THREE FIRST READING.

AT A MOTION BAILEY, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER 12.

ORTON IS TWENTY TWENTY TWO, THAT'S TWENTY FOUR, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, SUBMITTING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER ONE EIGHTY THREE COMPREHENSIVE REGULATIONS SECTION ONE EIGHTY THREE POINT ZERO ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D.

ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP I MEAN, IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

YES, HI AGAIN, BRUCE, WITH MBB ENGINEERING.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, ANOTHER PLANNED AMENDMENT IN A LAND USE AMENDMENT, BUT THIS TIME IT'S FOR A DIFFERENT PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE BAYFRONT AREA.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND START OUT WITH JUST A LITTLE CORRECTION.

SO I THINK WHEN WE MADE OUR SIMMENTAL, WE HAD THIS SURVEY THAT YOU HAVE HERE AND THEN WE HAD A ACTUAL SURVEY DONE AND WE WOULD RESUBMIT IT.

WE DO NOT WANT TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE EAST HALF OF SUPERMAN AVENUE, SO THAT WOULD BE THE EAST 25 FEET OF SUPERMAN AVENUE.

WE DO NOT HAVE THAT UNDER CONTRACT AS OWNED BY ANOTHER PARTY, SO WE WANT TO REMOVE THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FROM THIS REQUEST BECAUSE THAT'S AN ERROR.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BEFORE WE WENT ANY FURTHER.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GUYS JUST RECENTLY HAD YOUR YOUR DMU ZONING CHANGE. AND SO THEY'VE GOT THIS PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT AND THEY REALLY LIKE THE CMU PRODUCT THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED.

SO THEY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BY PUTTING PUT IN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN YOUR BAYFRONT AREA. SO COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL, REALLY UPSCALE PRODUCT.

WE DO WORK WITH AVALON.

WE'VE DONE MANY PROJECTS WITH THEM.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING ON THEM WITH THE AIRPORT HOTEL THAT WE'RE DOING IN MELBOURNE, AND THEY WANT TO BRING SOMETHING REALLY NICE HERE.

AND SO WE WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR USE, ZONING AND LAND USE.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT NIGHT AND HOPE THAT WE WOULD GET APPROVAL AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

HOW MANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MOYER COUNCILMAN? COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER AVALON IS GOING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.

YES, SIR, THEY HAVE, YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT I MEAN OR NO, NOT EXACTLY.

WE DO KNOW IT'LL HAVE THE COMMERCIAL THAT YOU WANT AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

THANK YOU. IT'S RARE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE IS A CHANGE.

IS THAT CHANGE INCORPORATED IN THE CURRENT LEGAL DESCRIPTION OR IS THAT MEANING YOU'RE GOING VERY QUICKLY AS AN ACCURATE LEGAL DESCRIPTION? YES, MA'AM. IN THE CHANGE THAT YOU JUST ANNOUNCED? ABSOLUTELY. AND I DID LOOK AT THE LEGAL TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT JUST THE PLAN, IT IS.

THE LEGAL EAGLE SAYS THE 50 FOOT IS THE WEST.

TWENTY FIVE FOOT OF THAT RIGHT AWAY IS WHAT THAT LEGAL SHOULD SAY, AND WE WILL GET THAT TO YOU. FIRST THING TOMORROW, YOU MIGHT ALREADY HAVE IT, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE IT FIRST THING TOMORROW.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT THING.

SO, MADAM SMITH, CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT IT THIS EVENING?

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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT HE'S ANNOUNCED IS ACTUALLY INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE PROPERLY, WHICH WE WHICH WE MAKE SURE OF BY HAVING THE APPLICANT PROVIDE THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION, WHICH HE SAYS HE'S ANNOUNCED IT HERE.

SO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOU ARE PROVING, AND WE MADE SURE WHAT YOU ALL APPROVED IS BARELY INCORPORATED IN THE DOCUMENT, WHICH IS THE LEGAL RECORD.

SO YES, AS LONG AS HE GETS COMES THROUGH WITH WHAT HE SAYS IS GOING TO DO WHAT WE ALL FLY, RIGHT? THANK YOU.

AND THE APPROVAL WOULD BE IF WE MOVE THAT WAY, IT WILL BE CONTINGENT UPON THAT.

CORRECT? THAT CORRECT, MA'AM.

WELL, YOU WHAT YOU APPROVED.

YOU'RE APPROVING WHAT HE JUST RE-ANNOUNCED.

SO CERTAINLY WE COULDN'T GO BE CLARK NOR US, NOR WITH LEGAL SIGN OFF ON THAT.

YOU CAN GO FORTH WITH THIS LEGAL DESCRIPTION BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION YOU HAVE APPROVED. YOU APPROVED THE EDITS AT ONCE, SO HE NEEDS TO COME WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT, WELL, CODIFY WHAT YOU ACTUALLY APPROVED.

I'M TRACKING YOU, MAN. I JUST WANTED ON THE RECORD LIKE THAT.

BUT NOW THAT YOU KNOW, I SIGNED OFF ON THESE AND I WILL BE MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT FIELD DESCRIPTION.

YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNSEL? ADAM SHERMAN, YOU.

HAVE ANY STAFF COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO ASK? NOTHING FURTHER, MAYOR, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING, NONE. DO YOU HAVE ANY LAST COMMENTS, MR. MOYA? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE KCPE DASH FIVE, DASH TWENTY TWENTY TWO TO INCLUDE STAFFS.

I MEAN, THE APPLICANT APPLICANT'S COMMENTS SECOND, AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON THINKING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN, SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSED AS UNANIMOUSLY ON ITEM 13 OR IT IS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DEATHS.

TWENTY FIVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM B.U.

V. BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT TO BE AMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL, THE VICINITY WEST OF DIXIE HIGHWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE IN THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO FORWARD. THIS AGAIN, BRUCE, WITH ME BEING SNEERING AND ALSO ON THIS AS WELL, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO APPROVE IT LESS THE EAST 25 FEET OF SUPERMAN AVENUE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR ANDY CARD.

HEY, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION A MOTION TO IMPROVE ON ITS TWENTY TWENTY TWO DASH TWENTY FIVE FIRST READING LIKE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SEEING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ALL IN FAVOR HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

ITEM NUMBER NINE WILL BE THE ONLY ONE FOR A CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

RESOLUTION 20, 20, TWO ZERO NINE A RESOLUTION, OOPS.

FIRST IS THE WRONG RESOLUTION.

RESOLUTION 20, 22, THAT'S 10 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO CREATE OR ADVISE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES THAT GOVERN, RIDE ALONG PROGRAMS AND PROHIBIT THE GRANTING OF EXEMPTIONS FROM AN APPLICATION AND LIABILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. HEY, COUNCIL, YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS. OK, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.

GILBERT. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

[9. Consideration of expenditures from the Palm Bay Police Department’s Law Enforcement Trust Fund ($5,100).]

I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA PAIR.

I'LL TAKE ONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THAT'S TONGUE IN CHEEK STATEMENT.

PLEASE DON'T PROVIDE ME WITH THEM FROM THE FROM MY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT DOES LEAD TO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ARE THE SIX OFFICERS PALM BAY OFFICERS OR ARE THEY SURROUNDING POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ATTENDING THE TRAINING? AND EITHER WAY, I PREFERRED BE.

MY LOCAL OFFICE AND NOT MY OFFICERS, BUT THE CITY'S OFFICERS THAT GET THE TRAINING.

BUT EITHER WAY, IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU GET A CHANCE TO TRAIN AND BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER PREPARED.

YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED AN OBJECTIVE.

THANK YOU. AND SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO DEFER THAT QUESTION?

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IT'S ALL ABOUT THESE.

SIX ARE GOING TO BE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

ALL HOURS, THEY'LL TRAIN HOURS AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRAIN OUR OWN TRAIN, THE TRAINER TYPE TRAINING. I'LL BE THAT.

UNDERSTOOD. I'M SURE MASTER CHIEF UNDERSTANDS THAT.

THAT LOGIC. OK, I'LL I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION COUNCILMAN A MOTION IMPROVE THE EXPENDITURES OF LTF, AS DESCRIBED HERE.

UP TO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

YOU'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS BEFORE WE GO TO NEW BUSINESS, GENTLEMEN.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING ME.

TESTING ONE TWO, ONE TWO.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER, AND WE ARE ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE MS.

[NEW BUSINESS]

THIS ITEM HAS TWO COMPONENTS, AND I'M GOING TO ASK FRANK WATANABE, OUR CITY ENGINEER, TO COME UP AND JOIN ME MOMENTARILY.

BUT THE PART OF THIS IS REQUEST FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE FEES.

EXCUSE ME FOR GO ROAD BOND PAVING PROGRAM UNITS.

THOSE WERE APPROVED AT IOB AND RECOMMENDED FOR YOUR REVIEW.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE THE DISCUSSION.

BUT THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS A AN UP TO DATE REVIEW OF WHERE WE'RE AT FINANCIALLY ON THE ROAD BOND PAVING PROGRAM.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, AND SO WE WANTED TO REALLY CHECK, DOUBLE CHECK, TRIPLE CHECK THE NUMBERS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES IN THE THE COSTS OF DOING DOING THE ROADWORK.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR EACH NIGHT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH WHERE THAT THE ROAD BOND PAVING PROGRAM IS AS WELL.

SO IF YOU ALLOW US, I'LL HAVE FRANK COME UP AND DO THAT PRESENTATION AND THEN THE ACTION I'LL NEED, YOU KNOW, FROM COUNCIL IS WHETHER YOU'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE PHASE FOUR.

UM. A PROGRAM OF UNITS AT THE END, I WANT TO.

PRESENT WILL HANDLE THE PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN THE OTHER.

I DON'T MEAN TO DO IT WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT, I JUST.

AGAIN, FRANK WATANABE, THE CITY ENGINEER, WE HAVE A LITTLE TECHNICAL PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, THE POWERPOINT WASN'T SUBMITTED, SO I'M TRYING TO GET THE POWERPOINT.

YOU GET IT. I THINK WE EMAILED IT ON AN EMAIL LIKE FRIDAY, THE 20.

LET'S HAVE THAT. IT IS ON THE AGENDA.

AND HE SENT IT TO YOU ON IT'S JUST A PDF, BUT ON A FRIDAY, THE 28TH.

YOU GOT IT IN THE FIRST. THAT THEY ARE.

NO, IT'S THE MATRIX, THAT'S THE MATRIX.

YOU'RE RIGHT. RIGHT. BUT ESSENTIALLY THE POWER OF THE PACKET.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE. DIDN'T.

IT IT. HERE IT IS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE HAVE BEEN SLOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE FRONT SLIDE FIRST, A COVER SHEET? LOOKING FOR THE MATRIX, IT'S NOT IT, IT'S NOT THE PRESENTATION.

HERE IT IS. WE'LL GO WITH THIS.

I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, HOW DO I STOP THAT? ON A SORT OF.

SO IT STOPS JUST ONE HIGHLIGHT.

AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE ROAD PAVEMENT PROGRAM, JUST AN UPDATE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HOPEFULLY APPROVING PHASE FOUR, WHICH WOULD BE THE FOURTH YEAR.

I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THERE'VE BEEN MANY QUESTIONS SINCE WE STARTED THE PROGRAM REGARDING IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

I'VE NOT SEEN ANY PAVEMENT ACTIVITIES, JUST ONE.

THIS PHOTOGRAPH RIGHT HERE SHOWS THE CARIBBEAN INDUSTRIAL PARK.

ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, WE PAVED THOSE STREETS OUT THERE AND CLEARLY RIGHT NOW I JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM RANGER CONSTRUCTION.

THEY JUST PUT DOWN THREE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AS OF TODAY, 3100 TONS OF NEW PAVING AND PALM BAY COLONY. SO WE'RE MOVING AWAY WITH PAVING.

SO WE HAD A LITTLE HICCUP, A LITTLE SLOW DOWN, BUT WE'RE BACK ON BOARD MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PAVING OPERATION.

ALL RIGHT. HUH? MR. HIGHLIGHTING IN THE PROGRAM IS A FIVE FACE EIGHT YEAR CONSTRUCTION SHOWN IN THE MAP.

[02:00:05]

OVERALL, HERE'S THE ROLE MILES.

THE CRITICAL ONE IS A SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY ONE MILES.

THAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MILES APPROVED BACK IN TWENTY NINETEEN AS PART OF THE ROAD BOND. THAT WAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF MILES IDENTIFIED IN OUR PCI STUDY, WHICH WAS THE PAVEMENT CONDITIONS INDEX STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

OUR PREVIOUS ENGINEERING STAFF ALSO VALIDATED THE SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY ONE MILES, JUST ONE HIGHLIGHT THAT IS ALL THE MILES FOR THE ROAD BOND PAVING.

THAT IS NOT ALL THE PAVEMENT MILES IN THE CITY.

THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIXTY THREE PAVED MILES.

THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT THE SEVENTY ONE MILES IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE UNITS FIFTY ONE FIFTY TWO POINT FIFTY THREE, WHICH IS THE COMPOUND.

THE ROAD PROGRAM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COMPOUND, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY ONE MILES OF ALL THE ROADS IN THE CITY.

I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. MS. TO MOVE FORWARD, THE FIRST YEAR SHOWS ALL THE UNITS IN BLUE.

IT WAS ALL BEEN COMPLETED THE FIRST YEAR IT WAS COMPLETED WITHIN A YEAR AND A HALF.

WE SPENT ABOUT THREE HUNDRED, SORRY, $31 MILLION.

AND SO WITH THE ROADS BEING COMPLETED WITHIN THE FIRST TWO YEARS, WE ARE NOW REJUVENATING THOSE STREETS AS PART OF THE REJUVENATION PROGRAM AS THE COUNCIL APPROVED.

THIS PHOTOGRAPH SHOWS THE REJUVENATION PROCESS FOR THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE INCLUDED PRETTY MUCH ABOUT 70 PERCENT OF THOSE STREETS.

THE REASON WHY WE NEED TO DO ALL THE YEAR ONE WAS BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ARE STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND SO WE WANT TO GIVE AT LEAST A TWO YEAR PERIOD BEFORE WE START APPLYING THE THE APPLICATION.

SO ON THE FAR RIGHT PICTURE, WE SEE ONE HAPPY RESIDENT WITH HIS DOG SEEING HIS ROAD, GETTING REJUVENATED. SO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU'RE TOO? WE HAD SOME SLOW DOWN BECAUSE YOUR CHOOSE ONE OF THE LARGER UNITS AND YEARS AND UNITS.

WE HAVE TOTAL OVER TWO HUNDRED.

IT HAD THE NORTHEAST ERA, WHICH IS THE OLD PALM BAY ERA, AND BECAUSE OF THE OLDER AREA, WE HAD A LOT OF UTILITY CONFLICTS, A LOT OF OTHER CHALLENGES.

SO THAT KIND OF SLOW US DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SHOWN IN GREEN ON THE TABLE ARE ALL THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ABOUT 55 PERCENT.

THE ONES REMAINING IN WHITE ARE BEING PROCESSED RIGHT NOW FOR BEING FITTED OUT CONSTRUCTED. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WE GET A LOT OF CALLS RIGHT NOW FOR COUNTRY CLUB.

COUNTRY CLUB IS ON THAT LIST IS HOPE TO GO OUT WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.

RIGHT NOW, THE COUNTRY CLUB.

PIPE REPLACEMENT IS READY TO START.

SO AGAIN, THE PIPES GOT GOING FIRST AND THEN WE DO REPAVING.

SO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT COUNTRY CLUB BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CALLS AND QUESTIONS.

JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, WE WERE BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF THE ISSUES WE HAD WITH THE CONFLICTS AND SOME OF THE SLOWDOWNS WE MOVED PARTS.

PHASE THREE, WHICH WAS LAST YEAR INTO PHASE TWO.

SO WE'RE MIXING THE TWO TOGETHER.

THE FIRST ONE, UNIT 48 AND EMERSON, WE JUST OPENED THE BIDS AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THE BID WE OPEN RIGHT NOW. IT'S SAVINGS, WE SEE SAVINGS ABOUT EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN SAVINGS, SO THAT MEANS WE'RE STILL BEING COMPETITIVE. WE WERE CONCERNED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF THE OF THE PETROLEUM. SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE COMPETITIONS, WE THOUGHT MAYBE THAT THE PRICES MAY BE GOING UP. WE DON'T HAVE THAT HIGH COMPETITION.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROGRAM WITH WITH THE CONTRACTS, THEY WERE RIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT SAME ROUTINE, SO WE'RE HOPING TO KEEP THESE GOOD CONTRACTS, HOPING TO KEEP THEM DOWN, HOPING TO HAVE SOME SAVINGS THAT'LL HELP IN SAVINGS.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

OH, SURE, BUT YOU HIT ON 800000.

SO AND YOU'RE HITTING ON SOME OF THESE CONTRACTORS.

IS IT IS THAT RELATED TO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALREADY IN OPERATION AND THEY'RE JUST CONTINUING ON THE ONES THAT ARE BIDDING? WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OF THE SAME BIDDERS AND ASK THE SAME QUESTION.

THEY TRY TO STAY WITHIN THE SAME AREA.

THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR PEOPLE ALL WITHIN THE SAME BOVARD COUNTY AREA.

GOOD EXAMPLE WAS WE WENT BACK TO PHASE PHASE ONE OR YEAR ONE OF THE THIRTY ONE MILLION DOLLARS WE SPENT. THE ACTUAL ENGINEERS COST WAS FORTY ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

SO WE ACTUALLY SAY, LET'S SAY WE'RE SAVING, BUT THERE WAS A $10 MILLION DIFFERENCE AND WE WERE HOPING TO KEEP SEEING THAT IN THESE FUTURE YEARS.

AS WE KEEP IT NICE AND TIGHT, WE KEEP THE PLANS COMPETITIVE AND WE HAVE GOOD PROCUREMENT PROCESS. AND SO WE'RE STILL SEEING THAT AGAIN WITH THE NEW SHOULD BE COMMITTEE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS THAT THE NEW OPENING OF UNIT FORTY EIGHT AND EMERSON AND YOU'LL SEE THAT BID AND YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SAVINGS.

BUT TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE YEAR THREE PROJECTS TALKING ABOUT UNIT FORTY EIGHT AND SINCE WE ALSO HAVE UNIT 30 IN MADISON, THAT'S ALSO PROGRAMED IN.

SO THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE TO TRY TO GET THAT UNIT 30 OUT.

SO THAT'S BEING PLANNED AS WELL.

SO THAT'S ALL PART OF UNIT PHASE THREE PROJECTS.

ALL THE DESIGNS HAVE BEEN DONE, SO WE'RE READY TO GO.

WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, RIGHT TERESE THREE, UNIT 30 AND MADDEN.

YES. AND THEN PHASE FOUR IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO APPROVE.

BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME PROGRAM THAT WE'VE PASSED SINCE THE START OF THE PROGRAM.

THIS IS PHASE FOUR.

THESE ARE THE UNITS BASED ON OUR ENGINEERING ASSESSMENTS AND FIELD REVIEWS.

THE ORIGINAL COST HAD A LOT MORE FDR, WHICH WE FOUND THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO.

THERE'S MORE MILLING AND PAVING, SO THERE IS SAVINGS, SO THE OVERALL COST AT ONE TIME WAS

[02:05:01]

WHEN WE STARTED TEACHING TODAY, WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE REAL ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, WHICH IS THIRTEEN POINT EIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

LET'S SAY LESSON ONE HUNDRED MILES IN TERMS OF TOTAL MILEAGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR FOR A YEAR FOR.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE TALKED ABOUT YEARS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.

WHERE ARE WE WITH YEAR FIVE AND WHERE ARE WE WITH THE OVERALL ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS? CAN WE DO IT ALL? THAT'S THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.

IF YOU WENT BACK AGAIN, IF YOU TOOK A LOOK AT YEAR ONE, IT WAS THIRTY ONE MILLION DOLLARS. YEAR TWO HAD ABOUT $38 MILLION.

YOU HAD THREE WAS $32 MILLION.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THIRTEEN POINT EIGHT FOR YEAR FOR YEAR FIVE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW SAVING TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY LEFT OVER STILL IN THE BALANCE THIRTY FIVE POINT FIVE MILLION.

SO STILL A LOT OF MONEY LEFT.

QUESTION IS, IS THERE ENOUGH TO DO ALL OF PALM BAY FOR THE ROBOT? THE ANSWER I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW IS NO.

AND THE REASON WHY? LET ME GO THROUGH THE LITTLE MATH RIGHT NOW.

YOU YOU'RE FIVE OR FACE FIVE HAS AGAIN A LARGE AMOUNT OF STREETS AS YOU SEE 13 UNITS OVER TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE MILES STILL AT THE LAST END.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY'LL HAVE GOOD PAVEMENT INDEX.

THAT MEANS YOU'RE ALL IN GOOD CONDITION.

GOOD CHANCE. ALL THEY NEED IS AN OVERLAY.

SO IF YOU JUST DID A ROUGH ESTIMATE, WHICH IS WHAT I DID, JUST TAKE A ROUGH ESTIMATE WITH THE CURRENT COST OF ASPHALT PER TON, WHICH IS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE POINT FIFTEEN CENTS. JUST LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'VE STARTED THE PROGRAM, TONNAGE WAS 90, SO IT'S GONE UP TO A HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE.

BUT IF YOU TAKE THAT NUMBER TIMES IT BY THE ROAD MILES, WE HAVE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU NEED TO HAVE BEYOND THE THIRTY FIVE POINT FIVE IS ABOUT TWO POINT ONE MILLION.

THE TWO POINT ONE MILLION OF THE $150 MILLION, WHICH IS LIKE ONE POINT THREE PERCENT, SO WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO TARGET IN TERMS OF MEETING ALL THE ROLE MODELS WITHIN THE $150 MILLION. THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

THE BAD NEWS IS THAT'S ASSUMING WE DID ALL PAVING.

IN YEAR FIVE, WE HAVE UNIT 49 AND UNIT FORTY NINE IS NOT PAY ME UNIT FORTY NINE IS FDR.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE STREETS IN THE SOUTHERN PART AND THE SOUTH WESTERN PART THAT WAS HAS THE BAD ROADS. IT WAS HAS THE BAD ROADS WE HAD LIKE IN THIRTY ONE THIRTY TWO UNIT THIRTY.

THESE ROADS WERE NOT IN THE BEST CONDITIONS.

THERE IS NOT MUCH LEFT IN THOSE ROADWAYS RIGHT NOW.

THEY WERE PAVED AT ONE TIME, BUT THE ROADS ARE IN POOR CONDITIONS AND THEY WILL NEED FDR.

BECAUSE OF THAT, THE CONSOLE WOULD BE A LOT HIGHER, BUT THE OPTION WOULD BE AND I GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE DO. WE LOOK AT MAYBE PUTTING IN A THINNER LEFT THAN A ONE INCH, LET'S SAY, A THREE QUARTER INCH.

DO WE LOOK AT DOING SOME SORT OF MICRO SURFACING OR OTHER TYPES OF OPTIONS? OR DO WE LOOK AT MAYBE TAKE IT OUT SOME STREETS IN UNIT FOUR TO NINE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT JUST ONE, A HIGHLIGHT ON UNIT FOUR, AND I WROTE PAVING MEDINA OSMOSIS.

THEY'RE OFF THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE YEAR THREE PHASE THREE.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DONE. WAS UNIT FORTY NINE PART OF THE GO RUN UNIT FOR NOW IS ALWAYS PART OF THE ROAD. WHEN IT STARTED OFF AT THE BEGINNING, IT WAS PART OF YEAR THREE IN THE IN THE CHANGES IN THE EARLY COUNCIL MEETING TO SET THE PROGRAM, IT GOT PUSHED BACK TO YEAR FIVE AND THEN THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE UNIT FORTY NINE DIFFERENT THAN LIKE THE ONES I JUST MENTIONED.

THIRTY ONE, THIRTY TWO, THEY HAD A LOT OF HOMES.

FORTY NINE DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF HOMES AND THE ROAD CONDITIONS ARE IN A LOT WORSE CONDITION IN THIS HIGHLIGHT.

AGAIN, THE PCI INDEX AND THE ROADS OUT THERE ARE BETWEEN ELEVEN AND TWENTY TWO, SO THAT'S BAD. SO THERE IS THERE IS NO ROAD TOTAL STREETS WE HAVE OUT THERE IS 32 MILES.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF MILES IN UNIFORM.

AND I AGAIN ESTIMATE WAS TO DO FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION.

FDR OVERALL COST THAT WE ORIGINALLY DID WHEN WE STARTED PROGRAM WAS TWELVE POINT SIX.

SO THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER WITH THE INCREASE IN COST GAS PER TONNAGE FROM 90 TO TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE.

SO THAT PRICE IS GOING TO GO UP IN ADDITION TO THE OVERALL FDR COST.

IF YOU'VE GONE OUT THERE, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES.

SO I PUT DOWN TRASH FILL AND VEGETATION TRASH.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LITTER TRASH.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUGE DEBRIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REFRIGERATORS, YOU KNOW, OVEN SITES, WHITE GOODS, CARS, BOATS, THEY'RE ALL BACK THERE.

AND IN THAT WHOLE AREA, THERE'S THERE'S AREAS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY NO HOMES, JUST VEGETATION. THE ROADS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE BUILT UP WITH SOME FILL MATERIAL BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ROADS ARE NOT IN GOOD CONDITION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE VEGETATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEPPERS IS GROWING SO THICK THERE IS NO ROADWAY, SO YOU CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THOSE ROADWAYS.

SO THAT ALONE WILL COST YOU PROBABLY ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS OF THE TWELVE POINT SIX AT AN COST OF THE GAS AND THE TONNAGE OUT OF THE ADDITIONAL TRASH FIELD AND VEGETATION.

MAYBE IT'S 14, MAYBE $15 MILLION.

SO THE TWO POINT ONE THAT I HAD TO FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS TO HAVE TO ADD TO IT MAKES IT A

[02:10:01]

THE ANSWER I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS NO.

THAT'S TODAY'S PICTURE AND TODAY'S PICTURE WITH TODAY'S DOLLARS WE'RE USING, WHICH IS STILL THE, YOU KNOW, I SAID ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS PER TON, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD. WE JUST OPENED A BID.

WE'RE STILL COMING DOWN LOW.

LET STAFF COMPLETE THE PAYMENT ASSESSMENT.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THE PAYMENT SYSTEM FOR YEAR FIVE.

I'M ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO REFLECT THE HIGH PCI INDEX, WHICH MEANS THERE ARE GOING TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE EXCEPT FOR FORTY NINE.

LET ME GIVE IT TO POTENTIALLY ALL OVERLAYS, MAYBE SOME MEDIUM PAPER, MAYBE SOME SMALL REPAIRS, BUT NOT AS HIGH AS ALL THE OTHER UNITS WE HAD IN THE PRIOR YEARS.

LET US HAVE THEN AGAIN IDENTIFY ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS, THEN LET US LOOK AT OPTIONS.

DO WE WANT TO USE A MICRO SERVICING? DO YOU WANT TO USE SOMETHING DIFFERENT LIKE A CAPSULE, WHICH IS A EMULSION BASED MIX, WHICH IS NOT A MICRO SERVICING, BUT ANOTHER OPTION? LET US LOOK AT IF DO WE WANT TO USE A THIN LIFT, REDUCE THE THICKNESS OR DO WE WANT TO REDUCE THE MIX ITSELF? THE OPTION WOULD BE REUSED WITHIN OUR MIX.

THE STANDARD, WHICH USES A HIGH POLYMER POLYMER, IS WHAT MAKES IT MORE RIGID.

WE USE A NUMBER THAT'S HIGHER UP.

IT'S A 76 DASH, 20 TWO POLYMER.

WE COULD SCALE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

HE'S A BIT. HE'S MORE LIKE A SIXTY FOUR, 58 POLYMER MIX.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE MIXING.

WE WILL LOSE. WE'RE SCALING DOWN THE MIX.

IT'S JUST THE RIGIDITY, THE STRENGTH.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DESTROY THE OVERALL ASPHALT.

IT JUST MAKES IT MORE FLEXIBLE TO USE THERE.

THE HYBRID IS USED FOR HIGHER ROADWAYS, ROADWAYS LIKE FREEWAYS, ARTERIALS.

SOME OF OUR LOCAL STREETS MAY NOT NEED THAT.

AND SO IF WE REDUCE THE MIX, THE POLYMER, THAT'S THE SAVINGS IN COST TO TREMENDOUSLY FROM THE 787, WHICH WE USE RIGHT NOW TO, LET'S SAY, A SIXTY FOUR, MAYBE A $30 REDUCTION.

SO THERE'S SOME SAVINGS THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT, MAYBE CHANGE IN THE MIX.

SO THERE'S OPTIONS IN HERE.

WE COULD LOOK AT ALL THE BOTTOM LINE.

TAKE A LOOK AT WHICH TREES DO WE WANT TO REALLY PAVE AN FDR AND FOR OR WHICH ONES DO WE JUST WANT TO JUST MAYBE CUT OUT BECAUSE THERE ARE STREETS IF YOU GO UP THERE, EVERYTHING TO SAY NORTH BOMBARDIER IN UNIFORM AND THERE'S ONLY THREE HOMES.

THE REST, THE STREETS ARE BARE.

SOME OF THE STREETS, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET BACK TO YOU.

SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS COUNCILORS SHOULD CONSIDER.

AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME PLANS THAT SAYS, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE TOP. HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF 494 OPTIONS.

AND JUST SAY SIX MONTHS AGO WITH A BIT OF PICTURE WHAT WE HAVE.

MAKE A DETERMINATION. THEN LET'S JUST START SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THE FACTS FIRST OF THESE OTHER ITEMS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR IS, YOU KNOW, GIVE US MORE TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

AND THEN WITH THAT, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OH, I HAVE.

I HAVE QUESTIONS. SO THIS ESTIMATE ON ON UNIT FORTY NINE, WELL, FIRST OF ALL.

YOU SAID UNIT 49 WAS ALWAYS PART OF THE GO RUN.

YES, IT WAS. WE SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE YOU BEGAN THE SESSION WITH THE GO ROAD WAS NOT INCLUDING THE COMPOUND.

SO THE 49 WAS YES IN THAT.

I WANT TO MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR.

AND SO MY QUESTION IS WITH THESE ESTIMATES, DOES THIS COVER CULVERT PIPES THAT MAY BE NEEDED OR WAS PART OF IT? OR IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL COST? YEAH. THE OVERPASS BROKE AWAY AHEAD OF THE ROAD, PAVING IN THE ROAD BOMB, PAVING EARLY ON. DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNCIL WAS ONLY FOR THE ROADS, AND THEN LATER ON THERE WAS SOME WIGGLE ROOM. THE SECOND YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MEET SOME ISD REQUIREMENTS, SO IT'S OK TO PUT SOME 88, YOU KNOW, SOME SMALL THINGS, BUT STILL 100 PERCENT ON THE ROADS.

SO THERE WAS NO ISSUES REGARDING TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

SIDEWALKS. FOCUS ON THE ROADS.

AND SO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

AND SO THE PIPES WERE THEN PULLED OUT AND THE PIPE REPLACEMENTS ARE BEING COVERED UNDER THE STONE WATER. THE ASSESSMENT THAT MONEY IS BEING USED AND THERE'S A WHOLE SEPARATE SET, BUT THEY'RE AHEAD OF US.

WE TRY TO KEEP THE PIPES AHEAD OF THE ROAD PROGRAM.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? SO I GUESS MY MY COMMENTS ARE MORE TOWARDS.

COUNCILMAN. RIGHT.

SO. I KNOW MOST OF US, I KNOW AS A AS A CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT CITY, I REMEMBER THIS PRESENTATION. I REMEMBER EVERYONE IN THE CITY.

AT LEAST I CAN SPEAK TO MYSELF.

I I INCORPORATED THIS THINKING ALL THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE CITY.

UH, THAT WAS THE PERCEPTION OUT THERE.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I KNOW YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT SAT ON COUNCIL WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED, RIGHT? AND AND SO I'M JUST SHARING FROM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DAIS AND AND THIS WAS A HUGE INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I BELIEVE THIS IS REALLY PROPELLING OUR CITY TO GREATER HEIGHTS.

SO I COMMEND THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE IN REGARDS TO

[02:15:05]

WE HAVE TO KEEP A PROMISE.

AND AND I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COLLABORATION OF ALL OF THEM.

AND IDEAS THAT YOU'RE THROWING OUT THERE FOR US TO FULFILL THIS PROMISE.

THERE IS A HUGE SHORTFALL, BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND THIS IS WHY I PRETTY MUCH I ASKED FOR THIS FROM MADAM SHERMAN FOR THIS TYPE OF PRESENTATION.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THIS COUNCIL, AND MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN ENTERTAIN THOSE THESE THOUGHT PROCESS, THESE ALTERNATIVES THAT MR. WATANABE'S BRINGING FORTH, RIGHT? LET'S KEEP UP TO DATE WITH THESE PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE'RE SHIFTING ON A DIME WITH EVERYTHING THAT WITH ALL THE COSTS, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S UP AGAINST US.

I THINK WE NEED TO START HAVING MORE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS, MORE OF THESE DIALOGS.

SO THIS COMES BACK TO US A LOT MORE OFTEN SO THAT WE KEEP OURSELVES IN THAT FOCUS.

WE HAVE TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT UNIT 49.

WE HAVE TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT HOW WE MAKE UP THAT SHORTFALL BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS HUGE IN MY EYES. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

GENTLEMEN, I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND I KNOW THAT THE MISSION AT HAND IS IT'S A HUGE TASK.

BUT I KNOW WITH THE GREAT MINDS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS DAIS WITH A GREAT STAFF THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE IDEAS, INNOVATIVE WAYS TO TO TACKLE THIS.

BUT I TRULY BELIEVE.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE THAT THE MORE WE SEE THIS, THE MORE WE DISCUSS THIS THAT OPENS UP THE DIALOG THAT OPENS UP THE CREATIVITY, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT GENTLEMAN. COUNSELOR, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FROM FRANK O MAYOR.

JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF YOU, I COULDN'T AGREE ANY MORE.

YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY WITH IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT EVEN A STEP FURTHER, LIKE I REALLY FOUGHT HARD TO TRY TO GET MADDENING OSMOSIS ALONG WITH THEM.

COUNCILMAN ANDERSON AT THE TIME, BECAUSE WE SAW THIS MIGHT HAPPEN, WE SAW THIS MIGHT HAPPEN AND A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WERE SATISFIED WITH AND OSMOSIS.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO EVEN INCLUDE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN UNIT 49, IT'S 96 HOMES.

IF WE CAN JUST ENGAGE WITH THEM AS WELL TO SEE WHAT THEY WILL BE BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE HAPPY WITH JUST IT'S THAT'S THE MAIN ROLE FOR THEM TO GET IN AND OUT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE FAR TO THEIR HOMES.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEY STAND FROM IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNOCK ON DOORS OR OR, HOWEVER, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO EXPLORE.

HOWEVER, WE DO. BUT JUST I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT DEPUTY MAYOR.

WELL, I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

I THINK THE MORE WE ENGAGE WITH OUR CITIZENRY, THAT'S OUR JOB.

I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.

SO OR I LEAVE THAT UP TO, I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY HANDCUFFS ON OUR CITY MANAGER.

YEAH. I THINK HER CREATIVITY, IF WE HAVE TO KNOCK ON DOORS, WE KNOCK ON DOORS.

I'M NOT. THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING, RIGHT. I'M SCARED AND KNOCKING ON DOORS.

IF THERE'S NINETY SIX HOUSES AND THERE'S FOUR OF US, SO THE FOUR OF US CAN GET 24 DOORS.

WE DID IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

SO HEY, TWENTY FOUR EAST, I THINK WE CAN KNOCK THAT OUT IN A DAY.

SO A FEW HOURS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND.

SO, BUT TO CONTINUE ON, I HAVE FOUR OTHER POINTS, SIR, MAYOR.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THE SAVINGS? YOU HAVE YOU SEEN WITH SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE COMING WITH LOW BIDS THAT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY DOING CHANGE ORDERS OR THERE ARE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WE'VE BEEN PRETTY GOOD ON ALL OUR BIDS.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A GOOD PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND SO WE THROW A CONTINGENCY AND THAT COVERS A 10 PERCENT CONTINGENCY THAT COUNCIL APPROVED RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND THAT'S A STANDARD FOR MOST CONSTRUCTIONS TO HAVE ABOUT A 10 PERCENT CONTINGENCY.

WE'VE BEEN PUTTING BACK MONEY AS THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

OUR CHANGEOVERS ARE WAY BELOW BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD SET OF PLANS AND OUR BEST, OUR BEST PRODUCT RIGHT NOW. WHEN WE DO THE CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE INSPECTORS, WE HAVE INSPECTORS AT EVERY PROJECT WE DO, PAVING THERE ALL DAY IF WE PAVE ON THE WEEKENDS OR ARE THERE ON THE WEEKENDS. AND SO BECAUSE WE HAVE EYES AND INSPECTORS ARE OUR CONTROLLERS THERE.

AND SO ALL THE SO FAR FROM AS WE DID IN YEAR ONE AND PARTS OF YEAR TWO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ONE THAT EXCEEDED THE CHANGE ORDERS, BUT WE DO IN VERY GOOD, OK.

AND WITH THE ISSUES, THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO WAS THIS COUNCIL BEFORE BECAUSE THERE'S ONE WHERE A ROAD WAS PAVED AND A PINE CONE WAS LIKE, RIGHT? THAT WAS ONE OF OURS.

ZENITY LITTLE ISSUES.

AND THAT'S I DROVE THE STREETS TODAY BECAUSE I GET CALLS DAILY ABOUT LIKE PINE CONES AND

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BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE ROADS? IT HAPPENS SOMETIMES.

OK. BUT THE MAJOR I DROVE STREETS TODAY AND YOU JUST TWENTY FOUR AND TWENTY FIVE I DROVE THE STREETS SINCE THIRTY ONE POINT THIRTY TWO.

ONE OF THE FIRST ONES I DROVE ELDER ON, WHICH IS THE VERY FIRST STREET.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE ARE CLOSING PORTIONS OF IT THIS WEEKEND TO DO THE REJUVENATION. SO OUR VERY FIRST STREET, WE DID.

WE'RE HITTING IT THIS WEEKEND TO REJUVENATE IT AS WE AGREED UPON DO A TWO TO THREE YEARS.

WE'RE GOING TO START REJUVENATING.

SO GRONNEMARK. BUT A LOT OF THOSE STREETS ARE DROVE TODAY.

THERE ARE LITTLE LITTLE THINGS AND WE TRY TO CATCH THEM WITHIN THE ONE YEAR WARRANTY.

BUT MAJORITY OF THE STREETS I DROVE ARE IN EXCELLENT SHAPE FROM A PAYMENT STANDPOINT, FROM A STRUCTURAL RIGHT ABILITY FROM FROM THE THERE ARE SOME AREAS, OF COURSE, YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN COLORATION.

THAT'S BECAUSE THE PAVEMENT HAD WE HAD TO PLACE DIFFERENT PAVEMENT DURING TIME.

SO THE COLORATION OCCURS, BUT THE RIDE ABILITY IS THERE.

IT'S NICE AND SMOOTH.

THERE ARE SOME FEW BUMPS, BUT THEY MEET THE TOLERANCE.

AND SO WE DO CHECK ON THAT AND WE DO CHECK ON THE MATERIAL ITSELF.

WE DO CHECK ON TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE DRIVEWAYS CONFORM, ALL THE SIDE STREETS CONFORM.

AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR WITH OUR INSPECTORS, THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU. MY LAST THING, BECAUSE YOU TOUCHED ON IT WITH THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AND MR. BATON HAS TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES.

GOING FORWARD, WE REALLY HAVE TO WORK ON FUNDING IT WITH INTENTION, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST SURPLUS LAND.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS YET.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE LOOK AT CITIES LIKE PORT ST.

LUCIE OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL, JUST WHAT THE COUNCIL DID APPROVE THAT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THOSE THOSE THE MATRIX.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WAS PUT IN THREE POINT FOUR A YEAR, THE FIRST YEAR WE JUST FINISHED RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW, FOR YOU TO DO YOUR ONE PHASE ONE, WE ONLY USE THE MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS PERFECT, JUST LIKE WE NEEDED FOR FOR THE REMAINING ONES.

FOR YEAR ONE PLUS YEAR TWO, I'M GOING TO EAT ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS.

SOON AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH STREETS.

IT'LL BE THREE POINT FOUR.

I WILL NEED EVERY YEAR TO MAINTAIN THAT SCHEDULE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS AND WE EXTEND THE PAVEMENT LIFE FIVE YEARS.

FOR EVERY TIME WE DO IT, WE COULD DO IT TWICE.

WE COULD EXTEND THE LIFE. TEN YEARS OF A 20 YEAR, 30 YEARS, WE NOW HAVE HUGE SAVINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE PUSHING THAT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OUT FARTHER.

SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE START PUTTING THAT THREE POINT $3.4 MILLION.

GOOD. SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

I'VE BEEN BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE HERE, BUT BACK IN 2000.

THIS IS RELATED TO PARKS AND REC IN A REFERENDUM AND THERE WAS A NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE, WHICH WASN'T.

I KNOW WE THEY STUDIED IT LIKE THIS WAS STUDIED, BUT IT WASN'T AN IN-DEPTH STUDY.

SO THERE WAS A SHORTFALL WITH THAT PARKS AND REC REFERENDUM, AND I KNOW FRED POPPY WOULD REMEMBER IT WAS FROM THE COUNTY.

SO IN 2000, THE CITIZENS VOTED FOR THIS AND THAT'S WHAT CREATED LIKE THE TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER, RIGHT IN THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY CENTERS IN THE PARK, IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THROUGHOUT COUNTY PARKS, WHICH THE TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER WAS COUNTY PARK BEFORE WE TOOK IT OVER, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT OCCURRED WAS THERE WAS A SHORTFALL AND IT WAS BASED ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS, I.E. GAS, RIGHT? IT WAS BASED ON UNDERESTIMATING THOSE PROJECTS.

IT WAS SEVERAL FACTORS AND AND SO THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND ASK THE VOTERS, HEY, WE MISSED THE MARK. SO NOT THAT I'M SAYING THAT THAT'S HAPPENING HERE, BUT I WANT TO.

I'M RIGHT ALONGSIDE OF YOU.

I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS REALLY KEEP THIS IN FRONT IN FRONT OF US.

MAYBE WHENEVER THERE'S A MAJOR THING, MAYBE HAVE PRESENTATIONS.

MADAM SHERMAN AT LEAST SIX WEEKS, IF SOMETHING CHANGED IN US UPDATED AND KEEPING THIS IN OUR IN OUR FOREFRONT, SO WE COULD CONTINUE.

YOU THINK I WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCILMAN FELIX I WANT TO START.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY.

IT JUST REALLY KEEP THAT CONVERSATION GOING.

I REMEMBER AS A CITIZEN, AS YOU SAID THREE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN NOT ONLY FROM THE DIAS, A COUPLE OF COUNCILS THAT HAD SOME CONCERN, IT WAS COMING FROM MULTIPLE CITIZENS AS WELL.

ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT WITH THE ONE 50? SO NOW, THREE YEARS LATER, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SHIFT IN THE ECONOMY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE'RE FACING, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST INFLATION IN 40 YEARS.

SO ALL OF THESE ADD UP AS WE KEPT THAT ON THE FOREFRONT AND GETTING UPDATES ON A REGULAR BASIS. THIS CONVERSATION COULD BE DIFFERENT TONIGHT, BUT YEAH, JUST TO 100 PERCENT AGREE.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN LEARN FROM AND OR PROJECT LIKE THAT.

JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONVERSATION WHEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONCERN IS REALLY GOING

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I MEAN, WE ALL SHARED US CITIZENS OR PALM BAY GOING BACK AND ASKED, SO WE WE HAVE A BIG TASK AHEAD OF US.

I TRULY BELIEVE WE COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT HOW WE GET 49 PAVED.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, DELIVER ON WHAT WE PROMISED BACK IN 2016.

I WAS ONE OF THE CITIZEN THAT WAS THERE.

I WAS A CHAMPION OF THAT PROJECT BECAUSE WE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T BELIEVE A VOTER WOULD VOTE FOR IT. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE CITIZEN CONCERNED CITIZEN LIKE ME.

AND SO WEINBERG SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, I KNOW HE WAS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WORKING HARD.

SO WE WE HAVE TO DELIVER.

OUR CITIES, OUR CITIZENS AND OUR CITIES IN A GREAT PLACE BECAUSE OF IT.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ADD THIS SHOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY.

YOU KNOW, WE ASKED CITIZEN FOR ONE HUNDRED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION BOND.

YOU SPENDING THEIR TAX DOLLARS, IT SHOULD BE OUR TOP PRIORITY.

I AGREE WITH YOU. MEDINA AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WE NEED TO HAVE UPDATES AND WE NEED TO GET FINISHED THE JOB.

YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T START IT, BUT IT'S IN OUR HANDS TO FINISH IT.

AND EVERYONE IN PALM BAY DESERVE A ROAD IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, NOT A DIRT ROAD, A A ROAD. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, I THINK WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THOUGHT PROCESS WHERE WE WANT TO. BE INFORMED, KEEP IT, KEEP IT IN THE FOREFRONT.

I KNOW THAT WE NEED A A MOTION, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

OK, I KNOW THAT WE NEED A MOTION FOR MOTION.

YEAH, GO AHEAD. MOTION TO APPROVE THE GO ROAD BOND PAVING PROGRAM PHASE FOR AS ENDORSED BY THE AOB, I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON.

ITEM NUMBER TWO MADAME SHERMAN THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO DEFER TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JOAN YOU AND CARLA BROWN TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THIS ITEM. I'M A LITTLE STUCK IN MY CORDS.

HERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK TO YOU FOLLOWING THE WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD ON DECEMBER 6TH.

THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE ARPA MONEY OR HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO AS COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY ASKED, WE HAVE DRAFTED AN RFI, A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND THAT IS THE ITEM ATTACHED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE, VERY BROAD.

IT'S INTENDED TO GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE NONPROFIT AND PUBLIC SERVICE COMMUNITY WOULD UTILIZE THE FUNDS AND HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDING THEY WOULD BE SEEKING TO UTILIZE.

SO IT IS INTENDED TO JUST GATHER SOME INFORMATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME IF COUNCIL DECIDED THEY WANTED TO. IF YOU WANTED TO DO AN RFA OR AN RFP IN THE FUTURE, SO A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS OR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WHO SUBMITTED TO THE RFI WOULD ALSO BE INVITED TO SUBMIT TO THE RFA OR THE RFP.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I DO HAVE MADAM SHERMAN.

WERE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK WITH? MS. WORD REGARDING A POSITION ON THE BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION.

OH, NO, SORRY, I HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY TO TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A VOICE ON THAT SOMEHOW.

ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF? OR COUNCILMAN QUESTIONS OF STAFF, I SHOULD SAY.

I GUESS IT'S GETTING LATE.

NO, NO QUESTION. IT'S JUST A COMMENT.

I DID SPEAK TO MS. SUZANNE AND I DEFINITELY LIKE THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED, AND IT'S KIND OF A REFLECTION OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE SEE ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

BUT IT DEFINITELY GIVES A GOOD OVERVIEW.

SO YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE INTENT IS AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LOGICAL DISCUSSION ON WHERE WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

SO I THINK THIS IS PERFECT.

I LIKE EVERYTHING IN IT AND I'M GOOD AND MOVE FORWARD.

I JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO ADD THAT MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO IT WHERE IT SAYS DESIGN, ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, OPEN PUBLIC SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, I MEAN, MENTAL HEALTH COULD BE CONSIDERED PART OF CASE MANAGEMENT, BUT IT KIND OF LIKE SPELL THAT OUT.

I THINK I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT IN IN THE.

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COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN FELIX, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I DO AGREE, I THINK THIS DRAFT.

DO WE REALLY COVERED EVERY, EVERY ASPECT OF OF WHAT WE WANT? WE WOULD WANT TO SEE.

I'M OK WITH IT THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED.

WITH THE INCLUSION OF MENTAL HEALTH.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SIR.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

A COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I'M OK WITH IT. WITH THE INCLUSION OF MENTAL HEALTH.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SO I WAS LOOKING AT WHERE WE WOULD PUT IT, SO FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, WE JUST PUT A REVISION CASE MANAGEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH, FOOD, ET CETERA.

YEAH. SO ALL I NEED I CAN MAKE.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER.

YES, MA'AM. I AM JUST NOTICING THE DEADLINE FOR THE SUBMISSION STATES MARCH 1ST.

THIS WAS THE DEADLINE WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WERE GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE SECOND MEETING OR FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY.

SO I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO GIVE FOLKS ENOUGH TIME TO SUBMIT TO WHAT MAY MAY 1ST JUNE.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE APRIL FOOLS WOULDN'T WANT TO ADD A SECOND.

AT LEAST 30 DAYS.

IS THAT ENOUGH? SO APRIL 2ND, IS THAT GOOD? WANTED ON APRIL FOOLS WILL DO APRIL 2ND.

APRIL 3RD. IF IT'S.

WHAT'S MONDAY? MONDAY, THE 4TH APRIL.

APRIL 4TH, HOW'S THAT? IS THAT GOOD, MAN? OK. OUTSTANDING.

ALL RIGHT, MOST TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO ISSUE A RFI RELATED TO THE USE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMON CARDS.

OK, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION RFI RELATED TO THE USE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS RELATED TO ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WITH REVISIONS FOR PUBLIC SERVICES TO INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH AND THE REVISIONS TO EXTEND THE DATE TO APRIL.

FOURTH, MONDAY, TWENTY TWENTY TWO SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON SEEING, BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, ALL IN FAVOR, I GUESS, AS UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER THREE.

OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS ITEM WAS THE AGENDA REVISION THAT WE ADDED TO NEW BUSINESS.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY GIVEN WHERE WE'RE AT IN DEALING WITH ISSUES WITH COVID TO WORK WITH THE UNITED COALITION COUNCIL AND LOCAL PHARMACY AS WELL FOR A COVID TESTING AND VACCINE POP UP TYPE OF CLINIC.

I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE, BUT WE WERE REQUESTING TO DO THIS AS A CO-SPONSORSHIP.

WE'VE EVALUATED IT.

IT DEFINITELY MEETS THE CO-SPONSORSHIP POLICY BECAUSE THERE'S A NONPROFIT INVOLVED IN THE APPLICATION. THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT WOULD BE DONE HERE AT CITY HALL COMPLEX, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING USING THIS ROOM AS THE LOCATION FOR IT.

ARE THEY THE THE GROUP THAT'S LIKE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS ON IS OFFERING FREE TO THE PUBLIC. THEY HAVE RAPID TEST PCR TESTS, VACCINES AND BOOSTERS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE SO.

AND WE'RE ALSO WE EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN ON A WEEK DAY DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.

SO WE DON'T EXPECT ANY ADDITIONAL OVERTIME STAFF COSTS.

FROM THAT STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE ON DUTY STAFF WHO WOULD SUPPORT THE EVENT AS NEEDED.

AND THAT'S REALLY IT.

THERE ARE NO OTHER LIKE COST LIKE RENTAL COSTS OR ANYTHING THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS.

SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST AND THE APPLICANTS HERE, AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OF YOU THINK THE APPLICANT WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS OR SHOULD WE SPEAK A CARD WITH THE APPLICANT? STEP FORWARD AND SHARE A FEW WORDS.

YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD, YOU MAY.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALLOWING US TO TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS SANTA ISABEL, RIGHT? I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED COALITION COUNCIL, WHERE A NEW NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT JUST FORMED AN PALM BAY TO BASICALLY TAKE OVER THE THE JOB THAT UNITED THE BRIDGE HAD BEFOREHAND BEFORE SAMUEL LOPEZ PASSED AWAY.

SO I'VE TAKEN THE ROLE WITH A NEW NONPROFIT TO GO FORWARD AND PURSUE OUR OUR VISION TO

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I WANT TO THANK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND OF COURSE, MS. SHERMAN FOR ALLOWING US TO BRING THIS FORWARD.

SO THIS WILL BE OUR SECOND ONE.

WE DID ONE A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

THAT ONE WAS WAS THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING THE COVID VACCINES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN HONOR OF OFFICER TOVAR.

THIS ONE IS THE VISION OF MR. JOHNSON TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, WE HAVE PLANS ON MAKING IT A ROUTINE EVENT IF YOU SO DESIRE.

SO WE DO HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF DOING IT WEEKLY MONTHLY.

HOWEVER, THE CITY FINDS THE NEED FOR IT.

MALABAR DISCOUNT PHARMACY IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

THEY HAVE ENOUGH TESTS TO BASICALLY TAKE CARE OF ALL THE WHOLE CITY OF PALM BAY IF NEEDED, SO THEY HAVE OVER 100000 TESTS AVAILABLE TO THEM AND VACCINES AS WELL.

SO IT IS A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND THE CITY.

IF YOU SO DESIRE TO GO FORWARD WITH HAVING THIS AVAILABLE TO YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS AT FREE OF CHARGE FOR OUR CITIZENS.

YOU OK? ANY QUESTIONS? MS. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I JUST WANT TO.

MS., RIGHT, I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS.

IT IS MY CONCERN AND I'M GLAD YOU STEPPED UP AND SHOWN THAT LEADERSHIP IN DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I REALLY CARE.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS COMING FROM THE HEART.

YES. WE REALLY NEED IT IN THIS CITY AND COVID IS A CONCERN OF MINE.

NOW WE JUST LOST ANOTHER OFFICER IN COCOA AND BECAUSE HE DIDN'T GET THE VACCINES AS WELL.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT IT'S FREE AND IT'S AVAILABLE AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF.

I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

ISABELLE, I THINK YOU GOT FOUR, THANK YOU.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL.

SHE KNOWS WE SPOKE SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE I REACHED OUT TO HER WHEN NUMBERS WERE REALLY SOARING AND WE WERE SEEING AN INFLUX OF, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE TESTS AND THINGS GOING CRAZY HERE IN BOVARD AND, YOU KNOW, LONG LINES OVER IN WEST MELBOURNE.

BUT WE HAD NOTHING IN PALM BAY AND PEOPLE WERE BLOWING MY PHONE UP LIKE, HEY, WHAT ABOUT PALM BAY? WHAT'S GOING ON? I WAS TALKING TO SUZANNE WE CALL MS., RIGHT? OKAY, WE WON'T HAVE LINES.

YEAH. AND THEN SHE SAID, IF WE CAN GET IT DONE, JUST LET ME KNOW.

AND THEN I CONNECTED HER MS. SUZANNE. AND HERE WE ARE NOW.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, STAFF FOR WORKING.

FRED, I APPRECIATE YOU, SIR, FOR WORKING WITH MS. RIGHT AND GETTING IT DONE. SO HERE WE ARE.

THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. GOOD. YEAH, IT WAS A VISION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

ON A NO NO SPEAK CARDS, I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM THE UNITED COALITION COUNCIL INC.

FOR A TESTING AND VACCINATION POP UP CLINIC SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ALL IN FAVOR HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON COUNCIL REPORTS AND MR. FELIX THE PERFECT SEGWAY, RIGHT?

[COUNCIL REPORTS]

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

SECOND. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL CHAMBER MS. NANCY AND HER STAFF FOR A GREAT EVENT LAST LAST WEDNESDAY, AS THEY DO EVERY FIRST ONE.

FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH ON THE CHAMBER LUNCH, THEY PUT TOGETHER EVERY SINGLE WEDNESDAY, BUT PARTICULARLY WHAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, CAUGHT MY ATTENTION IS THE FACT THAT THE SPEAKER THE SPEAKER THEY HAD WAS DAVID JONES FROM DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT.

AND THE MESSAGE WAS SO IMPORTANT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL IN THE ROOM WAS NOT SATISFIED WITH THE MESSAGE AND THE WAY WAS PRESENTED.

I KNOW MAYRA WAS THEIR DEPUTY MAYOR WAS THERE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIRECTORS CHIEF AND MR. POPPY AS WELL.

WE ALL WOULD CONCUR THAT THE MESSAGE WAS ON POINT WAS WAS A GREAT MESSAGE.

AND I CAN SHARE A LITTLE CERTAINTY NOT AS GIFTED AS MR. JONES, BUT I WON'T MAKE AN ATTEMPT.

IT WAS ABOUT DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

THOSE VALUES WHAT THEY MEAN FOR AN ORGANIZATION IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

DIVERSITY, INCLUSION AND EQUITY TIED DIRECTLY WITH PROFIT.

IN OTHER WORD, HOW THE RESULT OF THESE VALUES AS THEY'RE BEING APPLIED PROPERLY TO ANY

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I'M. COMPANIES THAT WERE GOING UNDER WITHIN FIVE YEARS, THEY TURN AROUND SO GREATLY, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY APPLIED THOSE VALUES AND THEY GO BUY THEM.

WITH THAT SAID, IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

I EMBRACE THESE VALUES, I'D SAY MAYBE NOT PROFIT PER SEEING DOLLAR, BUT PRODUCTIVITY POSITIVITY, YOU KNOW, ENTHUSIASM.

WANT TO COME TO WORK? SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUE AND OF COURSE, OUR CITY MANAGER AS WELL.

CAN WE CONSIDER BRINGING AN INITIATIVE LIKE THAT TO THE CITY TOWARD MAYBE.

HIRE STAFF MANAGEMENT AT THE MANAGEMENT LEVEL, THE DIRECTOR LEVEL MAYBE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AN EXERCISE LIKE THAT.

I THINK, HONESTLY, THAT WE ALL CAN BENEFIT FROM AS AN ORGANIZATION.

COUNCIL AND STAFF AS WELL.

UM, THE THESE ARE NOT FOREIGN TERMS. BUT OFTEN TIMES THEY EITHER OVERLOOKED OR OVERLOOKED, NOT BEING PUT IN PRACTICE PROPERLY.

SO IF I CAN GET THE SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES, WE'RE GIVING A.

MS. SHERMAN DIRECTION IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CONSIDER HAVING SOME SORT OF WORKSHOP RETREAT OR.

HE WILL, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL GET THE POINT AND HOW SHE CAN ORGANIZE THAT.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.

AND JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION THAT AND.

SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL AND MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN FELIX, I'M I'M FAMILIAR WITH WITH THAT TYPE OF TRAINING.

THERE'S A AND I KNOW THERE'S RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD.

IT'S CALLED THE YEONMI ACRONYM MS. FOR THE DEFENSE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY MANAGEMENT INSTITUTE, OF WHICH WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE THAT WAS PART OF HUMAN RESOURCES, A RETIRED MASTER SERGEANT.

AS A MATTER OF FACT. AND THAT SAME AND I'M SURE THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER UNDERSTANDS THE NCOS GO THROUGH THOSE TRAININGS RIGHT TO TO ENHANCE THAT CAPACITY OF WHAT MR. JONES SPOKE ABOUT IN IN THAT HOW PROFITABLE IT IS TO HAVE YOUR TROOPS IN MAXIMIZE. THEIR PERSONALITY, THEIR CHARACTERISTICS, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD ON THAT BUILD A TEAMWORK AND MEDINA SHERMAN AND I WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TEAM BUILDING AND AND I'VE, I'VE, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTED SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE MORE MILITARY MINDED THAN THAN NOT. BUT THE FACT IS TEAM BUILDING.

SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.

I DO WANT TO I WANT TO ECHO ANYTHING THAT BUILDS THE TEAM IS IS GOOD FOR OUR TEAM AND IT'S GOOD FOR PRODUCTION.

IT'S GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, HOW WE TREAT ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT? SO YEAH, I'M I DON'T WANT TO HANDCUFF HER, THOUGH I WOULD WANT HER TO USE HER JUDGMENT USED, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

SOURCES ARE AVAILABLE OUT THERE, MAN, TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

OF COURSE, MR. JONES DID AN OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO LIMIT HER TO THAT.

BUT YOU'RE SPOT ON.

I THINK IT IS ABOUT TEAM BUILDING.

IT IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ENHANCE.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR A CONSENSUS.

I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I CONCUR.

OK, AND WE'VE GOT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND AN COUNCILMAN FOSTER MAN, BUT YOUR HAND, YOU'RE NOT HANDCUFFED.

IT RIGHT IS WHAT I'M CERTAINLY MAYOR.

I WASN'T INSINUATING THAT CIARA HIM PERSONALLY, BUT THE THE IDEA ABOUT IS, WELL, WE GOT YOUR MESSAGE, BROTHER, AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

THAT WAS GOOD. I JUST ACTUALLY WANTED TO ADD, IF I COULD.

ACTUALLY, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES STAFF ALREADY MET WITH DAVID JONES.

I PRESENT. NOW THAT WE LIKE WHAT HE WAS SAYING, BUT WE'RE ALREADY EXPLORING THAT ANYWAY, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPTIONS.

OH, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THAT'S EXCITING BECAUSE HE IS HE WAS A MOTIVATING INDIVIDUAL ONE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. UM, I GOT TWO TWO ITEMS THAT I WANT TO TRY TO BE QUICK AND BRIEF OF.

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ONE BILL CAUGHT MY EYE IN PARTICULAR, AND THEY ALREADY PASSED IT.

IT WAS SOLAR.

THE REASON WHY I CAUGHT THAT CAUGHT MY EYE IS BECAUSE I JUST RECENTLY PURCHASED SOLAR PANELS TO MY HOUSE HOME.

AND NOW FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT WANTS TO STOP FLORIDA RESIDENTS PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR HOME BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING THEM BECAUSE THERE'S A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE.

JUST GIVE YOU A CASE IN POINT, MY ELECTRIC BILL IS $100 A MONTH.

MY SOLO, THE COST OF MY SOLAR PANELS IS SEVENTY FIVE, SEVENTY TWO DOLLARS A MONTH.

SEE THE SAVINGS, AND I DON'T HAVE TO PAY THEM OUT, DON'T MY FIRST PAYMENT, DON'T START IT, NOVEMBER 2022.

SO FROM NOW UNTIL.

AND I'M GOING TO BE PAYING BACK, PUT MORE ENERGY TOWARDS THE GRID.

SELLING IT BACK TO ESPINAL.

WELL, THEY WANT TO STOP THAT.

AND IT WAS A BILL IN THE HOUSE.

AND THAT'S ABOUT. NINETY THOUSAND FLORIDA RESIDENTS THAT.

HE IS BACK LOOKING AT AN ARTICLE 8.5 MILLION BACK TO, SO BACK TO.

IF YOU KNOW AND THEY WANT TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING, THEY WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE ROOFTOPS FROM SOLAR, AND THAT COULD LOSE ABOUT 40000 JOBS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

UM, SO THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS I DON'T THINK I THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT.

WE PASSED THE SOLAR BILL.

I BELIEVE A CONSTITUTION TO HAVE SOLAR IN FLORIDA AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

GET THESE SAVINGS LIKE I'M GETTING THEM.

I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR FPL TO SLOW IT DOWN.

WE JUST PASSED ON THE CITY COUNCIL, A SOLAR FARM FIRM.

OK. THE BILL OF SOLAR, FARNHAM PALM BAY, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, SO.

BUT THE HOUSE BILL PASSED, UNFORTUNATELY, AND THE COMPROMISE WAS 10 YEARS.

YOU HAVE A 10 YEAR SENATE TO TAKE FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE OF THIS.

THE COMPROMISE WOULD EXTEND IT TO 20 YEARS.

TWENTY YEARS OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO HAVE SO LONG SO.

SO IS GO TO THE SENATE, SO I'M ASKING PALM BAY RESIDENT CONTACT YOUR STATE SENATOR DEBBIE MAYFIELD AND TELL HER YOU'RE AGAINST THIS BILL THAT FP IS TRYING TO PASS A SECOND COMMENT. UM.

THEY TALK ABOUT CRITICAL RACE THEORY.

OK. AND.

THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE FEBRUARY IS NOTORIOUS TO BE BLACK HISTORY MONTH, OK? AND I DON'T LIKE THE TERM BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

I MEAN, THAT MIGHT SURPRISE A LOT OF PEOPLE, I DON'T I DON'T LIKE THAT TERM BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I DON'T LIKE IT, BECAUSE BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS U.S.

HISTORY MONTH. EVERYTHING THAT FROM THE TIME THE SLAVES LANDED IN JAMESTOWN, VIRGINIA, THAT'S U.S. HISTORY AND EVERYTHING HAPPENED.

THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY IS U.S.

HISTORY, OK? AND AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS, A FOCUS ON THEIR HISTORY AND TO BE PROUD OF THEIR HISTORY, WHERE THERE'S SLAVERY, WHERE THE CIVIL RIGHTS, WHETHER IT IS ENGINEERING OR ALL THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE IT IS, IT COVERS ALL ASPECT OF WHAT A WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT, FROM THE MILITARY, FROM POLITICIANS, FROM INVENTIONS.

I COULD GO ON AND ON.

SO. THE REASON I'M MAKING THIS COMMENT IS.

LOOK AT THAT HISTORY IS AMERICAN HISTORY AND LEARN, LEARN FROM IT, IT'S A PART OF AMERICAN HISTORY IS NOT TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.

NOT. WHEN I WHEN I WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL, NOT ONE MENTION OF SLAVERY.

OF THE NAME, ABRAHAM LINCOLN FREED THE SLAVE.

WELL, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I LEARNED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, AND THAT WAS IT.

A LOT MORE HISTORY TO THAT.

AND RECENTLY, I DISCOVERED MY HISTORY, MY BACKGROUND, I COULD TRACE MY FAMILY HISTORY ALL

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TRAITS MY MOTHER HISTORY TO THE SLAVE PLANTATION, AND I CAN'T GO BEYOND THAT.

I KNOW WHAT A PLANTATION IS, AND I KNOW WHERE THE BURIAL SITES IS IN NORTH CAROLINA.

BUT MY FATHER HISTORY GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO GUYANA, GHANA AND AFRICA, AND I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT. SO BUT THAT'S HISTORY, AMERICAN HISTORY.

IN HIS HISTORY GOES THROUGH THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, THE U.S.

VIRGIN ISLANDS. SO ALL OF THIS.

I BRING THAT UP IS.

OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY, BLACK HISTORY.

IT'S NOT JUST MARTIN LUTHER KING GIVING A SPEECH.

IT'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT WAS JUST AS IMPORTANT.

AND MARTIN LUTHER KING, I COULD NAME REVEREND SHUTTLESWORTH.

LOOK HIM UP. BEEN SHUTTLESWORTH IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.

SO YOU FIND THAT THIS MAN DID.

WAS HIS LIFE WAS EVEN MORE THREATENING THAN MARTIN LUTHER KING AND WHAT HE WENT THROUGH? AND I COULD NAME A LOT OF MORE PEOPLE, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO STOP THERE AND LOOK UP REVEREND SHUTTLESWORTH.

BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.

THANK YOU. YOU COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DEPUTY MAYOR, JOHNSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR, THREE ITEMS. I'M A FIRST PIGGYBACK OFF COUNCILMAN FELIX BECAUSE THAT WAS A GREAT LUNCHEON.

IT WAS GOOD AND THE SPEAKER WAS HE WAS GREAT AND HE WAS ON IT.

BUT I WANT TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER BECAUSE INCLUSION AND BUILDING IS GREAT.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO NEED TO FOCUS ON RETENTION AS WELL.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO AS WELL AS COUNCIL I WOULD LIKE.

I THINK WE SHOULD SEE THE NUMBERS OF WHO IS LEAVING OR RETIRING FROM EACH DEPARTMENT AND THE WHY BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST CONTINUE HIRING OR ATTEMPTING TO BUILD AT THE FOUNDATION ISN'T FIRM. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE LAST WEEK ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, YOUTH AND TRYING TO MAKE THEM HAVE CAREERS HERE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SOUND ON EVERY, EVERY BOARD, YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY FACET OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SECOND THING, I SPOKE WITH MS., SUZANNE AND THE OTHER CHARTER OFFICERS.

THE REST OF THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY BEEN ON HERE FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, SO I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO OUR CHARTER OFFICER REVIEWS BECAUSE THE LAST TIME ONE WAS BROUGHT UP, IT WAS IN APRIL, AND I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL, I JOKED ABOUT IT.

I WAS ONLY ON COUNCIL FOR LIKE FOUR MONTHS AND THEN I HAD TO SIT WITH PATRICIA AND TERESE, AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU ALL YET.

LIKE, IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO GIVE A, YOU KNOW, A REAL, YOU KNOW, THOROUGH REVIEW. SO NOW THAT WE'RE A YEAR END, I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD FOR US TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.

AND THEN THE LAST THING IS MORE SO FOR YOU, MAYOR OR MS. SUZANNE, IF YOU CAN GIVE US LIKE AN UPDATE OR A SUMMARY IN REGARDS TO THE BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

YES, SIR. OK, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE WAY.

THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DIALOG FROM FROM INDIVIDUALS IN OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND IDEALLY TO GET, YOU KNOW, EVEN ANGEL INVESTORS TO BE PART OF IT SO THAT WE HAVE THAT DIALOG.

I'LL GIVE YOU FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND THEN I LIKE FOR MADAM SHERMAN TO PICK, YOU KNOW, PIGGYBACK ON THAT AFTER I'M DONE WITH THAT, AFTER I'M DONE WITH MY REPORTS.

BUT WE IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT AND AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH OUR WORKSHOP, GENTLEMEN.

WE JUST SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

WE WANT YOU TO TELL US HOW YOU CAN DO BUSINESS.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP US NAVIGATE THAT AND SOME GOOD DIALOGS CAME OF IT? AND I'LL LET MADAM SHERMAN DISCUSS IT, BUT WHAT I WHAT I FOUND INTRIGUING WAS THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT EVEN MOREOVER, THAT THEY INCLUDED ALL THE MUNICIPALITY.

THEY INCLUDED THE COUNTY.

THEY SAID WE SHOULDN'T BE COMPETING AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT? WE SHOULD BE SHARING HOW WE WANT TO SEE OUR CITY GROW AND PUT THOSE DEMANDS OUT THERE.

BUT THOSE REQUIREMENTS? IN OTHER WORDS, NOT TAILORS EVERYTHING TO WHAT THEY WOULD WANT US.

SO I FOUND THAT REALLY INTRIGUING.

THE FACT THAT THEY OPENED UP AND SAID, HEY, YOU NEED THIS, THEN LET'S PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS THEN PUT THAT OUT THERE.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU NEED TECHNICAL JOBS.

YOU NEED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

PUT THAT OUT THERE. MAKE THE ZONING.

MAKE IT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT DIALOG, BUT FOR IT TO CREATE MORE BUSINESS.

SO I KNOW THAT MADAM SHERMAN TOOK A LOT OF NOTES, BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU GENTLEMEN, THESE

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THESE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE CREATING AS A TEAM OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN INVITE BUSINESSES. THEY FEEL WELCOMED, THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN HAVE.

THEY HAVE A VOICE, THEY HAVE A LISTENING EAR.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE OBJECTIVE WAS, AND I THINK WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

PERSONALLY, I LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT.

I THINK THE MORE DIALOG, THE MORE WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE EDC, WITH THESE OTHER PLAYERS THROUGHOUT THE WORD'S GETTING OUT.

AND RUSTY.

MENTIONED THAT THEY.

THAT WORD'S GETTING OUT, AND THE MORE THAT WORD GETS OUT, LET'S FACE IT, CAN I CAN I EVEN BE MORE TRANSPARENT WITH YOU? WE. WE'RE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE CITY'S CREDIBILITY IS AT A REALLY GOOD LEVEL.

INVESTORS WILL WANT TO COME TO THIS CITY IF THEY TRUST THE STAFF AND THEY TRUST OUR COUNCIL, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN JUST ONE SHORT YEAR.

I'M NOT PATTING OURSELVES ON THE BACK.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.

BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THE TEAMWORK THAT WE HAVE SHOWN, AND IT TAKES ME BACK TO THE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES THAT WE WERE AT IN ORLANDO AND THEY HAD A MOCK COUNCIL AND IN THE COUNCIL HAD THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS WE'VE SEEN THIS, THEY THEY FIGHT AMONG EACH OTHER AND THAT SETS A BAD TONE.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT ON THIS DAY.

WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A ROUGH GO IN THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN ITEM WE WERE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT, RIGHT, WHICH WAS THE SPECIAL ELECTION.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESSES, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY.

SO I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AS MADAM SHERMAN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE AS WELL.

BUT BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANT TO SHARE ONE THING AND I SHARED THIS FROM MY HEART.

THE MAYOR'S BALL IS IMPORTANT.

NOT BECAUSE IT'S THE MAYOR'S BALL.

BUT IT'S THE MISSION THAT'S AT HAND SACRIFICE PARK.

I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS CITY IS GREAT.

AND THE FOUNDATION OF THE CITY IS BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD THAT WAS SACRIFICED BY JOHNSON OFFICERS, JOHNSON AND CROWLEY.

I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.

AND THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT BUILD THAT TRIBUTE TO HONOR THAT SACRIFICE.

THAT'S WHY THE MAYOR'S BALL IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME.

MARCH TWENTY SIX, I'M ASKING.

ENCOURAGE YOUR FRIENDS, ENCOURAGE YOUR BUSINESS PARTNERS TO PARTNER UP WITH WITH THIS MISSION SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ACCOMPLISH THIS.

A TRIBUTE THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF EVEN COUNTYWIDE.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK AGAIN THAT YOU GUYS JOIN ME IN THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S A PASSION, MADAM.

SHERMAN. I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE MUCH OF YOUR REPORT TIME, BUT I CERTAINLY WANT YOU TO TOUCH

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ACTUALLY, BEFORE I START AND I'LL BE, I WILL BE BRIEF.

BUT WE WERE GOING TO ASK COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION TO SEND A THANK YOU LETTER TO FIT BECAUSE HAMMOND WAS THE HOST FOR THE EVENT AND THEY THEY PULLED OUT ALL THE STOPS.

YES, THEY PUT ON GREAT DISPLAYS, THEY INTERACTED WITH ALL THE VISITORS AND IT WAS JUST IT WERE VERY, VERY WELCOMING AND VERY SUPPORTIVE.

AND AND SO FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, CANADA IS THE CENTER FOR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING.

INNOVATIVE DESIGN, THANK YOU, AND THEY'RE RIGHT ON PALM BAY ROAD, RIGHT, RIGHT? IN THE SAME AREA AS LARSEN MOTORSPORTS.

BUT ANYWAY, THEY WERE VERY, VERY WELCOMING, SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A LETTER SENT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL AGREES BY THE MAYOR TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR HELP.

I ALSO WANT TO PERSONALLY JUST THINK JOAN, BECAUSE SHE WAS THE LEAD IN ORGANIZING THIS, PULLING IT ALL TOGETHER AND GREAT JOB.

APPRECIATE IT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO, TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, ARE JUST A COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS IS.

THEME OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THOSE AT THE EVENT WAS THEME OF CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH US. LET THIS NOT BE THE FIRST.

THE LAST TIME THEY DEFINITELY APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO OPEN UP TO WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? HOW DO YOU WANT US TO? FRO THE CITY, IN WHAT ROLE CAN YOU PLAY, THEY LIKE THAT WE WERE HAVING THAT KIND OF OPEN DIALOG.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT WAS SORT OF INTRIGUING TO ME, BUT IT MADE SENSE WAS.

SEVERAL FOLKS TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF.

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YEAH. AND THE THAT KIND OF FITS IN WITH SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO DO SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING TO SORT OF REESTABLISH BEYOND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISIONING THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT TO REESTABLISH WHAT IS THE VISION FOR THE CITY? WHO DO WE WANT TO BE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW? THOSE WERE SOME INTERESTING COMMENTS AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY REPORT TONIGHT.

MAYOR, THANK YOU. WE PALM BAY PROUD, THAT'S FOR SURE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DID YOU WANT TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE.

RAN OPPORTUNITIES.

THE FIREFIGHTERS. TURNING OUR LEGISLATIVE.

OH, I'M SORRY BEFORE.

BEFORE WE DO THAT, CAN I SEE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO SEND THE LETTER? OH YES. THUMBS UP.

THANK YOU. YEAH. APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A THAT WAS DONE.

YES. THANK YOU.

AND THEN COMMEND JONI FOR THE SPECTACULAR JOB SHE DID AS LEAD.

AND SO TO YOUR POINT, YOU WRITE A LETTER FOR.

I CAN DO THAT. BUT IN THE FIRE, PUT IT IN A PERSONNEL FILE.

GOT IT. SO, YEAH, MAYOR, YOU WOULD YOU WOULD LET ME KNOW EARLIER TODAY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE CONGRESSMAN POSEY HAS WRITTEN A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR OUR FEDERAL APPROPRIATION ITEMS, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT.

SO SECRETARY MALLORCA'S YEAH.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE THAT I DON'T HAVE THE COPY YET.

BUT UM, MORRIS, YOU KNOW OUR.

THERE ARE LOBBYISTS HE'LL BE GIVING GETTING THAT TO US, AND WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH EVERYONE. THAT WAS GOOD NEWS.

GREAT NEWS. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN, MADAM SMITH.

NOTHING FURTHER, SIR.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND NOW, PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS, ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

HI, SANTA, EIGHT, EIGHT, FIVE EIGHT, BRISBANE STREET, NORTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA, I JUST WANTED TO TALK UP A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MS..

JOHNSON HAS STATED ABOUT RETAINING EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND BRINGING YOUNG PEOPLE TO WORK HERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I ADDRESSED THE COUNCIL WITH NO TIME BACK AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON IT.

I THINK THAT THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO BE RETAINING OUR EMPLOYEES IS TO GIVE THEM BETTER SALARIES. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY UNDER UNDERPAID COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES COMPARABLE TO OURS.

OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SALARIES.

WE NEED TO SEE WHO'S MAKING TOO MUCH AND WHO'S MAKING TOO LITTLE.

AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR US, MEANING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS 9-1-1 OPERATORS NOT ONLY BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER IS ONE AND I'M VERY PROUD OF HER. I AM WORKING WITH STATE REPRESENTATIVE DAISY MORALES TO TRY TO MAKE A 9-1-1 OPERATORS, FIRST RESPONDERS LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE SAME KIND OF BENEFITS AS THEY DO.

THEY ARE REALLY OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR SALARIES BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY UNDERPAID, UNDER RATED AND DEFINITELY UNDER CONSIDERED.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE MOST OF OUR PEOPLE ARE RETIRING AND THE NEW GENERATION THAT COMES IN ONCE THEY GET PAID THE RIGHT WAY AND TO BRING THE EMPLOYEES HERE, WE NEED TO DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE LOST AUGUSTUS WILLIAMS RECENTLY.

HE WAS A MEMBER OF OUR ORGANIZATION FOR MANY YEARS, BUT HE WAS ALSO A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY, AND HE WILL BE VIEWED TOMORROW AT ALLEN CHAPEL.

SO IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME, IT'S BETWEEN FIVE AND SEVEN P.M..

HE WAS A POET, A GREAT MAN AND A GREAT FRIEND.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. THE.

WE'LL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST TWO ITEMS FIRST WAS UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR SINCE IT WAS PULLED SELECT TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT.

HOUSE BILL FIVE THIRTY ONE.

I REALIZE IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF SELF COURAGE TO SPEAK OUT WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE ON A POLITICAL VIEW THAT MIGHT BE.

WHEN YOU SAY SENSITIVE TO THE TOPIC AND TAKES COURAGE TO DO THAT SOMETIMES.

I PERSONALLY WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF YOU OPPOSING THIS HOUSE BILL, BECAUSE I LIKE THE FACT THAT I CAN LOOK AT AN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT TRY TO JUDGE THEM BASED ON THEIR POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW AND JUDGE THEM MORE ON THEIR CHARACTER OF HOW THEY RESPOND AND ACT.

I DON'T WANT A BIG LETTER IN THE MIDDLE OF MY CHEST.

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE IDENTIFIED BY.

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PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT MY WELL, YOU MIGHT KNOW BECAUSE I'M I TRY TO FOOL PEOPLE, BUT MY POLITICAL PARTY IS.

BUT I HAVE REASONS ON WHAT THAT IS.

BUT I WAS IN FAVOR OF OPPOSING THIS AND THAT'S IN OUR CITY CHARTER.

ALSO THAT IT'S THIS WAY THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. AND SO IT'S BACK IN THERE AND PERSONAL OPINION.

LET'S KEEP THIS NON THIS CITY NONPARTISAN SO WE CAN HAVE THE RESPECT AS INDIVIDUALS INSTEAD OF THE RESPECT OF YOUR PARTY.

THAT SIDE POINT? OK. ITEM NUMBER TWO.

FUTURE FUNDING IS TO WE'RE ON THE ON THE ROAD PROGRAM IF WE ARE STARTING TO RUN A LITTLE BIT SHY. FUTURE FUNDING FOR THAT I WOULD CONSIDER WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING THAT'S COMING IN TO SEE IF THAT'S HOW WE CAN DO IT.

SO IT DOESN'T SAY, OK, TAXPAYERS, HERE YOU GO.

WE WE FELL SHORT BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF OIL AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS THERE, RIGHT? BUT SOMETHING ELSE TO REMEMBER IS THAT WHEN WE SEE THESE ROADS BEING PAVED, WE START SEEING HOUSES COME IN, WE START SEEING MORE PEOPLE TRYING TO BUY.

SO IT WAS BUILDING INTO AN ASSET INTO THE CITY BY THESE PAVED ROADS.

FOR 10 YEARS, I HAD NO RESIDENCE ON MY STREET.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, PEOPLE ARE CLEARING LOTS AND BUILD BATON, SAYING SANCTUARY IS TURNING INTO A POPULATED NEIGHBORHOOD.

OK. BUT EITHER WAY, THE OTHER THING IS JUST ON REPEATING OF HISTORY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY BILL BATTEN DOES.

YOU KNOW, THIS SHORTFALL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE ROADS THAT WE MIGHT END UP WITH, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. BUT IF WE DO THIS, REMEMBER $10 MILLION CAME OUT OF THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY FOR THE ST.

JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPERS $10 MILLION. THAT $10 MILLION DIFFERENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE DIFFERENCE WE NEEDED FOR PAVING THE ROADS IN UNIT FOR FORTY ONE.

IT'S SOMETHING TO REMEMBER.

DON'T LET HISTORY JUST BE ONE SIDED.

THANK YOU. AND THAT GOES TO SPEAK WITH THE RETENTION ISSUE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THAT HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

THEY THEY CARRY THAT.

MADAM SHERMAN. DID YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STUDY, THE SALARY STUDY THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE TO KIND OF ADDRESS MS., RIGHT, WITH HER CONCERNS AND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AS WELL.

CERTAINLY THE LAST NOVEMBER, ACTUALLY COUNCIL APPROVED UPDATES TO THE POLICE AND FIRE CONTRACT THE UNION CONTRACTS.

WE FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS.

AND WE MADE SIGNIFICANT MOVES IN THE SALARIES FOR BOTH OUR POLICE OFFICER TEAM AND OUR FIREFIGHTER TEAM TO THE POINT THAT I BELIEVE OUR POLICE OFFICERS BECAME CLOSE TO, IF NOT THE HIGHEST PAID IN THE COUNTY.

SECOND, I THINK IT WAS YEAH, WE'VE DEFINITELY MADE SOME PROGRESS THERE.

UM, WE'VE DEFINITELY TAKEN A CLOSER LOOK AT TELECOMMUNICATIONS SALARIES, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING.

WE'VE. THE TWO DID SOME HIRING BONUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO RECRUIT, BUT WE ARE ABOUT TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE UNION CONTRACTS OR NEEDS WHITE AND BLUE, WHICH INCLUDES TELECOMMUNICATIONS.

I EXPECT SOME OF THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED THERE.

BEYOND THAT, WE'RE DOING A CITYWIDE SALARY STUDY.

IT'S A COMPANY CALLED EVERGREEN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE POSITIONS WE'RE CHECKING TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT IN TIME AND SPACE TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED.

YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE BECAUSE MANY OF OUR SALARY RANGES HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS, 10 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND SO WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO. WE ALSO KNOW WE CAN'T FUND ALL THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED ALL AT ONCE.

MOST LIKELY, WE'RE WORKING ON A PHASED APPROACH ONCE WE GET THOSE RESULTS, WHICH WE SHOULD RECEIVE SOMETIME LATER THIS MONTH.

IT'S ALL IN WORK. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING, NONE, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AS YOU WERE.

IT'S NOT ADJOURNED. SO ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO BE QUICKER NEXT TIME, NEXT TIME, RIGHT? I WAS LOOKING AT MY GUYS.

I SAW YOU PAINTING IN THE BACK ONE AT THE TIME, BUT I GUESS IT'S MR. SAID IT WAS A GOOD NIGHT AGAIN.

I AM ALFRED GA FROM 16 TO 80 MAIN STREET, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

I MUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL TO GO IN FAVOR OF MY APPLICATION, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THE SECOND THING IS I MUST COME COMPLIMENT THE CITY TO PUT ON THIS MULTICULTURAL THINGS. AND LAST SATURDAY, THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

AND THIS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE MULTICULTURAL EVENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FROM NOW ON, AND I'LL TRY MY BEST TO SUPPORT IT THE BEST I CAN.

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IS THIS QUALIFYING FOR THE CANDIDATE FOR ELECTION? I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD POINT.

THESE TWO LADIES CAME WITH BEFORE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I EVEN RUN FOR MAYOR THE LAST TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED I THINK IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE QUALIFYING ON THIS DAIS BECAUSE EXPERIENCE IS IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND CAPABILITY, YOU KNOW, THE AMBITION, THE LOVE YOU HAVE FOR THE CITY.

ALL THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT INGREDIENTS TO BE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THE FOR THESE GUYS.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED.

IT NEEDS TO BE PROPERLY DONE BECAUSE THE LAST TIME YOU KNOW SOMEONE QUALIFIED PEOPLE WAS THERE, YOU KNOW, THE THE ELECTION, THE CITIZENS NEED TO INVESTIGATE CANDIDATE AND LOOK NOT FOR POVERTY.

I THINK BASED ON OUR OR OR ORDINANCE IN THIS CITY, IT BASICALLY SAYS A NONPARTISAN.

AND AS I MR. BOARD SAYS, HE SAID WE NEED TO STICK THAT WAY TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TREAT EVERY CITIZEN IN THIS CITY THE SAME WAY.

AND I EMPHASIZE ON THIS BECAUSE I FEEL I FEEL I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN TREATED NEGATIVELY TO SOME TIME. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, EVERY MAYOR IN THIS DASH MUST TREAT EVERY CITIZEN IN THE SAME WAY.

THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.