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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 2ND, 2020 IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH DON BOEREMA.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRPERSON JORDAN, PRESIDENT DONALD BOEREMA, PRESIDENT, KHALILAH MARAGH, PRESIDENT. ON A CORRECT ME.
RANDALL OJRZYNSKI OLSZEWSKI, PRESIDENT RAINER WARNER.
PRESIDENT RAINIER. UH, IN PHILIP WEINBERG AND VICKI NORTHROP.
[ELECTION OF VICE CHAIRMAN]
MOTION TO ELECT.A MIRAGE. WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE AN ELECTION FOR OUR VICE CHAIR, AND THE A MOTION IS FOR WE ELECT KATE MARAJ AS THE VICE CHAIR.
YES, I'D ALSO LIKE MAKE A NOMINATION PHILIP WEINBERG.
AT. THERE WAS A SECOND, YES, PHILIP WEINBERG WAS MY NOMINATION.
MADAM CHAIR. SANJAY, IF I MAY, I THINK THE ISSUE AT HAND IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR MOTION THAT HAS A SECOND ON IT.
SO IF WE JUST LET ONE NOMINATION HANG, IF THERE'S A SECOND ON IT AND THEN AND THEN VOTE.
BUT THE I THINK THE DELIBERATION HERE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO CALL THE QUESTION ON BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED.
I DID NOT KNOW MRS. WEINBERG WAS GOING TO GO BACK, SO WHAT I CAN DO TO WITHDRAW MY NOMINATION AND GO AHEAD TO MR. WEINBERG. I CAN SECOND THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW SO SO THAT RESOLVES THAT.
SO I WITHDRAW MY MOTION FOR MY RIGHT TO BE VICE CHAIR.
IN A SECOND. SO I'LL SECOND THAT.
ZBA, I LIKE MAKE A MOTION FOR PHILIP WEINBERG TO BE THE VICE CHAIR SECOND.
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NOBODY CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU GUYS? ARE THEY DEFINITELY ON? JUST. OFF.[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
NOW IT IS I'M SORRY.WE HAVE A MOTION AS SECOND ALL IN FAVOR I A MOTION APPROVED FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE
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PUBLIC. THE ISD 11, 2022 CRICKET DRIVE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE PROCEEDINGS OR IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, WILL TAKE A MINUTE OR TWO FOR YOU TO LEAVE.
IF YOU ALL CAN EXIT, PLEASE, WE NEED TO GET THE MEETING GOING.
ALL RIGHT, THE MEETINGS BACK IN BLOW, EVERYBODY.
THEY ALREADY DID IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE APPLICANT AND THE AUDIENCE.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD COMPRISED OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF.
THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL THEN BE ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT ANY INFORMATION GERMANE TO THE CASE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
THE FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE WILL FIRST HEAR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION IN THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION FOR ALL PROCEEDINGS.
ALL APPLICANTS AND SPEAKERS FROM THE AUDIENCE MUST SIGN THE SPEAKER OATH CARDS LOCATED AT THE PODIUM. PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD AS A COURTESY.
I ASK THAT IF THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO MAY HAVE SIMILAR COMMENTS, YOU INFORMALLY APPOINT A SPOKESPERSON TO CLARIFY YOUR VIEWS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.
THIS TIME, THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD. I WILL THEN CALL FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ARE THEN FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DISPOSITION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION AND ADHERING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES. WE HAVE OUR FIRST CASE.
SO YOUR FIRST CASE IS ACTUALLY OLD BUSINESS, THIS IS CP SIX, TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
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THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU LAST LAST MONTH, AND THERE WERE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHETHER THEY WERE REQUESTING BAY FROM MIXED USE VILLAGE OR BAYFRONT MIXED USE.SO THE APPLICANT IS BEFORE YOU AGAIN TONIGHT.
THE REQUEST IS TO FOR A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY TO BAYFRONT MIXED USE.
THE SITE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY TWELVE POINT FOUR ZERO ACRES AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED NORTH, LOCATED, I'M SORRY, WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF PORT MALABAR ROAD, NORTHEAST.
THERE ARE FIVE PARCELS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST.
STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH THE ANALYSIS FOR THE FIRST ONE BEING FUTURE LAND USE AND THE SUBJECT PARCELS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE GOAL OF THE DISTRICT IS TO CREATE A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WATERFRONT COMMUNITY WITH IMPROVED NARROW STREETS PATHWAYS LEADING TO PUBLIC SPACES, ATTRACTIVE VIEWS AND A WATERFRONT THEME.
THE GOAL OF THE REDEVELOPMENT BAYFRONT PLAN IS TO HAVE A DISTRICT TO BE DEVELOPED AS AN ATTRACTIVE, INVITING AND ECONOMICALLY SUCCESSFUL MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT THAT PROMOTES
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POSITIVE IMAGE AND IDENTITY FOR THE COMMUNITY.THE INTENDED USE FOR THE TWELVE POINT FOUR ZERO ACRES ACRE PROPERTY IS FOR A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SOME COMMERCIAL WILL BE REQUIRED WITH THE PROPOSED NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE.
THE CHANGE WILL ALLOW FOR HIGH QUALITY DIVERSIFIED LIVING ENVIRONMENT.
AS FAR AS THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHARACTER OF THE CITY IS MAINTAINED THROUGH CONSERVATION, APPROPRIATE USE AND PROTECTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN FLORIDA SCRUB J POLYGONS IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN FOR THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT THAT THE SUBJECT'S PROPERTIES ARE NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT AREA.
FOR HOUSING ELEMENT, THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT DOES NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SUPPLY AND VARIETY DECENT, ATTRACTIVE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE CITY.
INSTEAD, IT WILL SERVE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITY NEEDS WITHIN PALM BAY INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THREE THINGS WE'LL LOOK AT UTILITY DRAINAGE AND SOLID WASTE, AND THESE WERE EVALUATED AND WE'LL GO ON TO INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT TO BAYFRONT MIXED-USE WILL ADD HOUSING UNITS. SOME IMPACTS TO PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE ANTICIPATED.
HOWEVER, CONSIDERING THE ADJACENT CONCURRENCY SERVICE AREAS, THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE.
IT IS WITHIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WILL HAVE A DE MINIMIS IMPACT ON WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR OUR PARKS TRANSPORTATION.
IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT IT WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT, BUT WHEN THEY GO FOR THEIR THEIR SITE PLAN AND ALL OF THAT, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO WELL.
WE'LL LOOK AT TRAFFIC AT THAT TIME.
PROPERTY RATES THE PROPOSED LAND USE DOES NOT APPEAR TO INFRINGE UPON THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE APPLICANT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AGAIN THIS MONTH TO SPEAK TO THIS AND THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, YOU'VE HEARD THE STAFF REPORT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE HEAR THE APPLICANT? YOUR MIC IS.
ARI, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, OK? AM I? MY QUESTION, I JUST ASKED ALEX TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE TO PERHAPS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND SOME OF OUR NEWER BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE ZONING IS AND BEACHFRONT MIXED USE.
SO THEY'RE VERY THEY'RE VERY COMPARABLE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WHEN THE APPLICANT WAS SPEAKING LAST MONTH THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION THAT CAME IN.
AND SO HE IS HE HAS GONE BACK AND IS ASKING FOR JUST BAYFRONT MIXED USE, WHICH HAS A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL VERSUS THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE. THANK YOU ALL.
THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE APPROACH THEIR MICROPHONE AND SUBMIT YOUR SPEAKER OATH CARD.
HELLO, MY NAME IS CHAD. AND FOR THE RECORD, I RESIDE AT 20 35 VISTA PARKWAY, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA. UM, AS STAFF SAID AND AS YOU SEE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, WE'RE HERE LAST MONTH, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MIX UP IN TERMINOLOGY WITH THE TWO FUTURE LAND USE IN THE ZONING. SO WE'RE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY JUST TO GET KIND OF ACROSS OUR OUR EYES.
THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM ITSELF HASN'T CHANGED.
WE'RE LOOKING JUST TO COINCIDE WITH THE OVERLAY THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS PUT IN PLACE.
MR.. YES, MA'AM. JUST I JUST WANT TO JUST DO A QUICK FOLLOW UP.
I KNOW MR. RITTER HAS SOME QUESTIONS LAST LAST MONTH BY CHANCE, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO ADDRESS ANY OF HIS CONCERNS? SO I AM WORKING CLOSELY WITH MR. RITTER. HE IS.
WE EXCHANGED CONTACT INFORMATION.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE LAND USE AND REZONING AND WORKING TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPT.
BUT ONCE WE GET THE CONCEPT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM NAILED DOWN, PER THESE APPROVALS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL HIM IN AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE HERE LAST TIME TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
BUT NO, I DID ACTUALLY GO BACK AND DISCUSS WITH MY CLIENT.
THERE IS NO PLANS TO ACCESS THERE THEIR CIRCULATION WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION NOR ANY TYPE OF ACCESS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
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IT WOULD REQUIRE AN EASEMENT AT BEST TO ACCESS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BEING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.OF COURSE, THE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, THE APPLICANT.
OR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST? SURE. PODIUM.
EVENING, MY NAME IS ROBERT STICE.
I LIVE AT 1796 WEINBERG DRIVE SOUTHEAST, MAY OR MAY NOT HEARD THIS YET.
I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.
I'M THE PRESIDENT. THERE WERE NOT ON THAT CASE AT ALL.
IT HAS TO BE GERMANE TO THIS IS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE ORGANIZING 17 WAYS TO FIGHT THE ZONING.
I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PUBLIC MISUNDERSTANDING.
SIR, IF I MAY CLARIFY, IF YOU'RE USED TO SEEING WATCHING CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR COMING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. REPUBLICANS OWN PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DOES NOT HAVE THAT.
YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK ON THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE HEARING, THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE HEARING AT THAT TIME. OK, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW.
OK, THANK YOU. LET'S WE HAVE SORRY JENNIFER COCKCROFT WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS HERE AND SOME NEW WAR MEMBERS THAT. I SEEM TO BE FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND MAYBE STILL LEARNING TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS SPECIFIC TO WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
THE PLANNING BOARD ONLY HEARS THOSE ITEMS. IT'S NOT HERE JUST TO HEAR SPECIFIC GENERAL CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, CITY OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND IF THERE'S NOT AN ITEM DIRECTLY RELATED, THEN THE PROPER FORUM FOR THAT WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THEY DO HAVE PUBLIC GENERAL COMMENT.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR AN ITEM THAT WAS REMOVED, YOU SHOULD COME BACK IF IT'S CONTINUED AND IF YOU'RE HERE FOR JUST GENERAL INFORMATION, YOUR PROPER COMPLAINTS OR COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE YOUR PROPER FORUM.
OVER IN CITY COUNCIL, WHICH MEETS TOMORROW NIGHT AS TO PROCEDURE, WE WOULD.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT LITA SAID WITH THESE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS. WE WOULD ASK THAT THE AUDIENCE HERE PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
BOARD MEMBERS, PLEASE MAKE SURE ALL YOUR MIKES ARE ON BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND AUDIENCE.
PLEASE BE, YOU KNOW, COURTEOUS TO THE BOARD AS IT CONDUCTS ITS MEETING, THE CHATTER IN THE AUDIENCE. THEY CAN HEAR YOU AND IT DOES DISTRACT FROM THEM IN IN THE PRESENTATIONS.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE BOARD I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU PRIOR TO VOTING ON ANY MATTERS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTY COMMUNICATIONS AND ALSO ANY SITE VISITS.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT? ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? OK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THAT REACH OUT TO YOU VIA EMAIL, BUT YOU DO NOT RESPOND. IS THAT CONSIDERED AS PART? YOU SHOULD ALSO DISCLOSE THAT IT'S THIS THAT YOU DON'T RESPOND TO IT.
BUT YES, SINCE YOU IF YOU READ IT, IT'S AN EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.
ANY INFORMATION THAT ONE BOARD MEMBER GETS ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER MIGHT NOT GET.
SO YOU SHOULD BRING THAT FORWARD AND BRING A COPY TO THE CLERK SO THAT SHE HAS A COPY OF IT, FOR THE RECORD.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS JUST SO THAT EACH BOARD MEMBER ALL HAS THE SAME INFORMATION, BECAUSE WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE COLLECTIVELY AS A BOARD, JUST NOT MAKING INDEPENDENT DECISIONS, THAT MAKES SENSE.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE.
ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS REQUEST? I'VE SEEING NONE. THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE CASE IS BACK WITH THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION ONLY BOARD MEMBERS AFTER HEARING ALL EVIDENCE.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? PUSHING TO APPROVE C.P.
I. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
ALL RIGHT. ALEX, WOULD YOU PRESENT THE NEXT CASE, CPC SIX, 20 22?
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YES. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM H.S.HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AND RMB 10 SINGLE SINGLE TO IN MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO BE EMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THIS IS TWELVE POINT FOUR ZERO ACRES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY IN THE VICINITY OF PORT MALABAR NORTHEAST.
THERE ARE FIVE PARCELS INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST AN ANALYSIS THE NEED IN JUSTIFICATION THE APPLICANT HAS STATED. THE JUSTIFICATION FOR CHANGE IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT TO ENABLE THE DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT A PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY USES.
THE CHANGE IN ZONING WILL HELP REVITALIZE THE AREA.
ITEM TWO WHEN PERTAINING TO THE REZONING OF LAND AND EFFECTIVE CHANGE, THAT'S PARTICULAR THE DESIGNATION OF THE BMO ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA IS AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S DESIRE AND PLAN FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE BAYFRONT DISTRICT WHEN PERTAINING TO THE REZONING OF LAND.
THE AMOUNT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THE GENERAL AREA, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF DMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE LAND WITHIN EXISTING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
CURRENTLY, THE PROPOSED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL FURTHER THE PURPOSES OF CHAPTER 185 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SEEING, THEN, WILL THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD? AGAIN, CHAD RIDDLE, ARIZONA AT TWENTY THIRTY FIVE.
MR. PARKWAY, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA.
THIS ITEM IS THE ITEM THAT COINCIDES WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE APPLICATION AS WELL, THIS IS THE REZONING PORTION OF IT.
ONCE AGAIN, ALL THE INFORMATION REMAINS THE SAME AS WE JUST WANT TO PERFORM THE REZONING TO COINCIDE WITH THE OVERLAY THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS HAS APPLIED.
NOW THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? THEY WEREN'T OPPOSED.
OR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE CP SDOHOBSH SIX TWENTY TWO SECOND.
IT'S. I I ALL OPPOSED ANY OPPOSED.
THE NEXT CASE WILL BE THE EIGHT TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
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ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH PRIVACY FENCE WITHIN THE REQUIRED 15 FOOT SIDE SET SIDE YARD SET BACK FOR CORNER LOTS AS ESTABLISHED BY SECTION ONE SEVENTY POINT ONE ONE FOUR A OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ONE STANDARD GDC CORNER LOT FRONTING ON MARWICK STREET NORTHWEST.
THE HOME WAS CONSTRUCTED IN TWO THOUSAND ONE AND THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN OWNED BY THE APPLICANT SINCE 2000.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SIX FOOT HIGH PRIVACY FENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
SINCE THIS IS A CORNER LOT CODE REQUIRES THAT SIX FOOT HIGH PRIVACY FENCES BE PLACED 15 FEET FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED PRIVACY FENCE DOES NOT APPEAR THAT IT WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE LINE OF SIGHT AND WILL NOT IMPACT ANY DRAINAGE OR UTILITY EASEMENTS.
GO THROUGH THE ANALYSIS KNOWN.
THERE ARE SEVEN CONDITIONS FOR THE VARIANCE THE ITEM NUMBER ONE SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SIX FOOT HIGH PRIVACY FENCE ON THEIR SIDE, ON THEIR SIDE, IN THE BACKYARD OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES PECULIAR TO THE LAND STRUCTURE OR BUILDINGS INVOLVED.
ITEM TWO SPECIAL CONDITIONS THERE ARE NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES IDENTIFIED AND THE NEED FOR A VARIANCE AS A RESULT OF THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
ITEM THREE LITERAL INTERPRETATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE LITTLE LITERAL INTERPRETATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD REQUIRE THE
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APPLICANT TO BUILD WITHIN THE APPLICABLE WALLS AND FENCE REQUIREMENTS.ITEM FOR THE VARIANCE, IF GRANTED, IS A MINIMUM VARIANCE NECESSARY TO MAKE REASONABLE USE OF LAND. BUILDING AND STRUCTURE OF VARIANCE WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PLACE A FENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 15 FOOT SETBACK THAT WOULD BE NEEDED.
THAT'S NEEDED TO MEET THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
ITEM FIVE GRANTING THIS VARIANCE REQUEST WILL NOT CONFER ON THE APPLICANT.
ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGES GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD CONFER UPON THE APPLICANT.
A REDUCTION OF SIDESTEP BACK REQUIREMENT FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH PRIVACY FENCE ON CORNER LOTS AS THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD APPLY TO OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO CREATE ANY HEALTH OR SAFETY HAZARDS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. ITEM SEVEN GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE CODE.
STAFF HAS NOT IDENTIFIED ANY DETRIMENTAL EFFECT TO PUBLIC WELFARE.
ITEM SEVEN THE VARIANCE REPRESENTS A REASONABLE DISPOSITION.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CLAIMS MADE UPON THIS PROPERTY WITH RESPECT TO THE BIRD J.
HARRIS ACT OR ANY DEVELOPMENT ORDER, AS INDICATED ABOVE.
THEREFORE, IT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS REQUEST.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SEEING, NONE WILL THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD, OH.
HI, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S ABNEY SANCHEZ, AND I LIVE ON NINE, SIX, SIX NYACK STREET, NORTHWEST AND PALM BAY.
AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THE VARIANCE FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE ON OUR BACKYARD.
DUE TO THAT, WE HAVE TWO SMALL KIDS AND WE WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO LET THE KIDS IN THE BACKYARD WITH ENOUGH PRIVACY FOR THEM TO PLAY AND NO ONE WATCHING THEM.
AND WE SPECIFICALLY CHOSE THIS LOT AND WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE LAST YEAR BECAUSE IT'S A CORNER LOT AND WE WANTED AN OVERSIZE LOT.
SO WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE FENCE AND THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SETBACK OF 15 FOOT, THAT WAS QUITE A SHOCKER FOR US.
SO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD WITH THE REQUEST AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO SACRIFICE OUR BACKYARD SPACE FOR THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY AND.
UM, WE DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.
OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT.
AND. UM, OUR BACK NEIGHBOR, OUR BACK DOOR NEIGHBOR, THEY HAVE THE FENCE EXACTLY WHERE ON THE PROPERTY LINE, WHERE WE WANT OURS.
IT HASN'T AFFECTED THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.
ALSO, BEFORE OUR HOUSE WAS BUILT, IT WAS FILLED WITH HUGE TREES, HUGE AND THERE WERE ALL ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
I BELIEVE FOR OVER A DECADE THERE WAS NEVER LIKE IT NEVER AFFECTED THE PUBLIC.
THANK YOU. ANY OF THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
YES, MADAM CHAIR. UM, SO WHAT? SO THE FENCE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
WOULD IT BE THE SAME WOOD FENCE OR ARE YOU GOING TO TO A.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE BACK DOORS NEIGHBOR, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DOOR A FENCE METAL FENCE.
YEAH. NO, IT'S CALLED DORA FENCE.
IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME STYLE AS WOOD, BUT IT'S METAL, BUT IT'S HORIZONTAL.
YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THE FENCE.
NO. YEAH, JUST LIKE WHAT? OH, YEAH. AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS JUST TO CONFIRM.
I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURE WITH THE BACKYARD FOR YOUR NEIGHBOR.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR FENCE WILL GO RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT ONE.
IT WON'T INTERFERE WITH THE STOP SIGN OR THE VISIBILITY.
BOSTON PLACE. I YOU YOU HAD MENTIONED THERE'S AN EXISTING FENCE ALREADY TO THAT FENCE, YOU SAY, NO, NO, NOT ON MY ON MY NEIGHBORS.
YES. YOU'RE GOING TO ABUT TO THAT FENCE.
ONLY FOR THE BACKYARD, BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT STYLE OF FENCE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE HIS FENCE AS.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT IN EXISTING FENCE OF A NEIGHBOR AND ONLY ATTACHED TO IT.WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING IT IN THE BACK, ONLY ON THE SIDE.
YOU SAID YOUR NEIGHBOR. HE'S UP THERE WITH THE BACK BACKYARD NEIGHBORS, OK WITH THIS.
YES, HE HE HAD A VARIANCE ACCEPTED FOR HIS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I'M SORRY, THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE IS ALSO SIX FOOT.
THANK YOU. NOW THEY WERE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? POSTER THE REQUEST.
SEEING, NINE, IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD, CAN I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE.
ITEM V. DASH EIGHT DASH TWENTY TWENTY TWO THATCAN MOTION IS SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, I PROPOSED. PASSES.
LIKE, WE HAVE OUR NEXT CASE, PLEASE.
SO SEE YOU NINE DASH TWENTY TWENTY TWO IS IN YOUR POCKET THAT HAS NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL THE APRIL MEETING BECAUSE THEY DID NOT MEET THE SIGNPOSTING REQUIREMENTS.
OK. HEY, WE'RE ADDRESSING KC NINE, 2022.
IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE FOR THAT CASE? SEEING, NONE. ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
AND WE NEED A MOTION MOTION TO CONTINUE.
CASE NUMBERS SEE UNITED 2022 FOR THE APRIL.
BOARD MEETING. LISTEN, IN A SECOND.
AND IMPROVE NEXT CASE, PLEASE.
THIS IS A REQUEST A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED SELF-STORAGE FACILITY AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
IT CONSISTS OF SIX POINT ZERO NINE ACRES OF LAND.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO MILTON ROAD, NORTHEAST.
THE SUBJECT PROPERLY PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT LAND THAT ABUTS PINEAPPLE COVE CHARTER SCHOOL TO THE WEST AND VACANT LAND TO THE EAST, SOUTH AND NORTH.
THE REQUEST INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY SIX POINT ZERO NINE ACRES OF LAND.
ANALYSIS THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS TO DEVELOP SIX POINT ZERO NINE ACRES OF LAND AS A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY WITH MASTER STORMWATER RETENTION.
THE PROPOSED SELF-STORAGE FACILITY WILL CONSIST OF 10 BUILDINGS.
ONE ONE IS FORTY THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF CLIMATE CONTROLLED SPACE AND NINE ONE STOREY BUILDINGS, WITH AN AVERAGE OF FIVE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED SQUARE FEET AND THE ASSOCIATED PARKING.
THE CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE REFLECTED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET AS ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY NEEDED TO MEET. SO THOSE ARE ITEMS. A THROUGH I.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MADAM CHAIR, JUST JUST TO JUST FOR CLARITY, IS IT ZERO POINT NINE OR SIX POINT ZERO NINE SIX POINT ZERO NINE? MR.. IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, YES, IT DOES JUST A LITTLE BIT.
YOU SAID WE ALREADY HAVE A SITE PLAN FROM.
WE HAVE A CONCEPTUAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH IT SHOULD BE IN THE PACKET HERE.
YES, JUST THAT. THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.
GOOD EVENING, BARRY SHERMAN ISD, 82, SOUTH AIRPORT BOULEVARD, ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO.
THANK YOU. ONE OF THE FIRST OFF THANK STAFF AND IN THEIR TEAM FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON BRINGING THIS TO YOU TONIGHT.
AND SO WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR THIS USE.
I REPRESENT LEGACY DEVELOPMENT.
THEY ARE A A PROFESSIONALLY RAN DEVELOPER THAT HANDLES SELF STORAGES.
WE'RE BRINGING A PRODUCT TO PALM BAY WITH REALLY CLASS-A MANAGEMENT.
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WE'VE PRESENTED, AS ALEX POINTED OUT, A PRODUCT AS A MIXTURE OF TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED STORAGE AND DRIVE UP SINGLE STORY.WE'VE WORKED HARD TO MEET AND EXCEED ALL THE STANDARDS SET FORTH TO US IN REGARDING SCREENING SETBACKS, ARCHITECTURE.
THIS IS CERTAINLY A USE THAT WE BRING TO COMMUNITIES AND THIS TYPE OF SITE WHERE WE WE BRING REALLY A PRODUCT AS REALLY NO NOISE, LOW LIGHTING, NO OUTDOOR STORAGE, FULLY SECURED SECURITY SYSTEMS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH STAFF GOING THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE COMING WEEKS ONCE WE IDEALLY SEE CITY COUNCIL NEXT MONTH.
BEYOND THAT, I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANYONE HAVE OF THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, MADAM CHAIRMAN, MY QUESTION WOULD BE YOU DO AGREE TO ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY THROUGH. I PARDON ME, YOU AGREE TO ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH STAFF ON ABOUT THE OPAQUE AND SCREENING OUR WEST SIDE THAT FACES THE CHARTER SCHOOL.
THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT IS REALLY KIND OF MEETS THE THE SCREENING AND FENCE DESIGN.
WE JUST GOT TO FINE TUNE ON IF WE'RE GOING TO DO AN OPAQUE FENCE OR WE'RE GOING TO BUFFER IT WITH LANDSCAPING, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE THAT I JUST NEED SOME CLARITY FROM THEM ON AND WE'LL DO THAT AND SITE PLANNING PHASE.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE DO AGREE WITH ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS.
AND STAFF AGREES TO THAT ALSO.
THANK YOU. LISTEN TO THE APPLICANT, GO AHEAD.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
SIR, IF I MAY, I KNOW WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF ALREADY BRAIN SPACE THERE AND THIS IS YOUR AREA OF EXPERTIZE BRINGING THESE THESE FACILITIES TO COMMUNITIES.
SO CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU IMPLEMENT, WHETHER IT'S A THOUGHT, PHILOSOPHY OR ANYTHING SPECIFIC WHEN IT COMES TO STORMWATER? BECAUSE MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS, OUR COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY NEEDS STORAGE BECAUSE EVERYBODY GETS MORE STUFF.
SO. GOOD LOCATION TRAFFIC TO YOUR PREVIOUSLY MADE POINTS.
YOU KNOW IT'S COME AND GO AS NEED, WHATEVER, UNTIL IT RAINS.
THAT'S WHEN THAT LAND IS DIFFERENT THAN IF IT WASN'T BEING USED FOR THIS.
BECAUSE WHEN I JUST THINK OF A FACILITY LIKE THIS, I THINK OF A A FIELD OF CONCRETE WITH ROOVES ROOFS THAT POOR GUTTERS ONTO SAID CONCRETE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO PUSH IT SOMEWHERE BECAUSE SO CAN YOU JUST TALK STORMWATER VERY BRIEFLY AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'LL HELP MITIGATE THAT CONCERN FOR ME IN OUR COMMUNITY? CERTAINLY, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE HIRED A LOCAL, WELL TRAINED ENGINEERING GROUP, AND THEY'VE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENGINEERING STAFF ALREADY ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT AND OF COURSE, REVIEWING THE CURRENT DRAINAGE STUDIES AND THEN IN OUR PRELIMINARY LAYOUT ALREADY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPER AREA TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE RUNOFF VOLUMES AND THE RAINFALL EVENTS THAT DO OCCUR.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BASELINE.
BEYOND THAT, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO INSURERS AS WE DO HAVE RUNOFF ON THE DRIVE LANES AND THEN IT HEADS INTO OUR OUR AREAS OF I'LL USE THE WORD DETENTION, ET CETERA.
WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THE PROPER DETAILS TO HANDLE EROSION CONTROL MEASURES. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WASH OUT THAT'S PROPERLY MANAGED IN THAT REGARD.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF HOW WE HANDLE CLEANUP OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.
BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, OUR RELEASE STRUCTURES SOMETIMES GET FILLED UP WITH TRASH AND DEBRIS. AND SO WE'RE REALLY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY AS FAR AS I CAN GO WITH MY EXPERTIZE, BUT IT IS A SENSITIVE ITEM FOR US. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH, AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IN YOUR CAPACITY THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN THAT WE'VE KIND OF JUST PUT FORTH AS CITIZENS FOR FOLKS IN YOUR POSITION TO JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO AND WE MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT TO THE END OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR DETENTION AND THINGS OF THIS SORT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T WANT TO SEE AS BIG CONCRETE BUCKETS.
WHAT WE'D RATHER SEE IS IS THINGS THAT UTILIZE NATURAL SPECIES, PLANTS, THINGS OF THE SORT THAT CAN ACTUALLY RETAIN SOME WATER.
AND TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY A ROAD ON YOU AND THINGS OF THE SORT AND AND WE HAVE THAT PLAN IN PLACE.
SO JUST ENCOURAGE YOU IN ANY OF THE OTHER DEVELOPERS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK TO US TONIGHT TO ALWAYS THINK TO REFERENCE THAT FROM A CITIZEN PERSPECTIVE.
SO THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT ANSWER.
SIR, AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT THIS WILL HAVE A SEPARATE DRIVEWAY INTO THE FACILITY? IT WILL NOT BE UTILIZING THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S UTILIZED BY PINEAPPLE COVE.
CORRECT, CORRECT. IT'S OFTEN A THERE.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BOTH PALM BAY AND THE COUNTY ON THAT AND ENSURING THAT
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UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ALSO HAS AN EXTREMELY LOW TRAFFIC COUNT USE.SO, YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO DARREN, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS, BUT BUT ALL APPLICATIONS FOR THESE TYPE OF PROJECT, ANY TYPE OF PROJECT REALLY REQUIRES A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT MEETS THE LOCAL CODES, AS WELL AS THE ST.
JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT ORDINANCES AND LAWS.
SO ALL STORMWATER ESSENTIALLY HAS TO STAY ON SITE AND CAN AFFECT ITS NEIGHBORS.
SO. THAT'S TRUE OF ANYTHING THAT ANY APPLICATION THAT COMES BEFORE US.
A CHAIR, I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
IF WE IF IT'S ON CONDITIONAL USE, SO IF WE DIDN'T, IF WE DENIED THIS, WOULD THEY BE ANY OTHER PLANS THAT YOU ALL WOULD HAVE FOR THAT PROPERTY? IF WE IF WE. NO, THE DEVELOPER AND IN THE GROUP I WORK WITH, WE SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THIS PRODUCT TYPE. SO I THINK AT THAT POINT YOU'RE PROBABLY OPEN TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO COME IN WITH ANOTHER USE THAT IDEALLY DOESN'T HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE, BUT TO KNOW WE WOULDN'T BE PROPOSING A DIFFERENT USE HERE.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, SEEING, THEN WE'LL OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? WHEN AGAINST THIS REQUEST? AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE, SEE YOU 10, 20, 22.
NEXT, CASE PDE11 20 22 CRICKET DRIVE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, SO WE'LL GO TO THE FOLLOWING CASE CAPTAIN 20 22.
HELLO. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS A APPROXIMATELY ONE POINT THREE ZERO ACRES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AN ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF PORT MALABAR ROAD, NORTHEAST.
THE ANALYSIS WILL GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANALYSIS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY PROPERTY PARCELS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE BAYFRONT VILLAGE.
SPECIAL CHARACTER DISTRICT, WHICH IS WITHIN THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE GOAL OF THE DISTRICT IS TO CREATE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WATERFRONT COMMUNITY TO IMPROVE NARROW STREETS AND PATHWAYS LEADING TO PUBLIC SPACES, ATTRACTIVE VIEWS AND THE WATERFRONT THEME. THE INTENDED USE FOR THE ONE POINT THREE ZERO ACRE PROPERTY IS A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE.
THE CHANGE WOULD ALLOW FOR HIGH QUALITY DIVERSIFIED LIVING ENVIRONMENT.
THEN WE WILL GO INTO THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN ANY FLORIDA SCRUB.
J POLYGON'S IS IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN, COASTAL MANAGEMENT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT AREA HOUSING ELEMENT.
THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SUPPLY AND VARIETY OF SAFE, DECENT AND ATTRACTIVE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY.
INSTEAD, IT WILL SERVE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES NEEDED IN PALM BAY INFRASTRUCTURE. AS FAR AS UTILITIES, DRAINAGE AND SOLID WASTE WAS LOOKED AT INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION.
AS FAR AS SCHOOLS ARE CONCERNED, THERE IS CONSIDERED ADJACENT CURRENCY SERVICE AREAS IN THERE. SUFFICIENT CAPACITY WILL GO TO RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE.
THE DENSITY INCREASE WOULD HAVE A DE MINIMIS OR NON IMPACT ON THE LEVEL OF RECREATIONAL SERVICE TRANSPORTATION WE'LL LOOK AT AND THEN PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE DOES NOT APPEAR TO INFRINGE UPON THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE APPLICANT, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS.
OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NONE OF THE APPLICANT CAME FORWARD.
HELLO, MY NAME IS SCOTT WEATHERSPOON.
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I LIVE AT 9:09AM.SOUTH MIRAMAR AVENUE IN THE ATLANTIC.
I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING HIAWATHA BAY LLC.
WE'RE REQUESTING A LAND USE CHANGE, AS ALEX STATED, FROM HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY.
SO IT'S A CONCURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE.
THE CURRENT ZONING THERE ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR A 75 UNIT HOTEL, FOR EXAMPLE, OR A STRIP MALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE CHANGE HERE REALLY FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
I HAVE LETTERS ACTUALLY FROM VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS IN SUPPORT OF THIS CHANGE.
THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE INFILL ZONING WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, WITHIN THE CRA AND WITHIN THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
I MAY END UP COMBINING INCREASE OFF OF U.S.
ONE DIXIE HIGHWAY WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, WHO IS ALSO ALREADY ZONED.
SO WE MAY END UP COMBINING OUR ENTRIES AND EXITS TO TO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DEALING WITH DOT ON THAT, OBVIOUSLY, SINCE IT'S A STATE HIGHWAY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE THAT I'VE BEEN PROACTIVE OR VERY HAPPY, THAT I'VE BEEN PROACTIVE AND GOING AROUND KNOCKING ON DOORS.
THEY'RE VERY HAPPY TO SEE SOMETHING IN OF A RESIDENTIAL NATURE RATHER THAN SOMETHING MUCH HIGHER USE AND MUCH HIGHER TRAFFIC DENSITY THAT THEY WOULD SEE IN A COMMERCIAL USE.
AGAIN, JUST LOOKING FOR AND TO ANSWER YOUR CONCERN PREVIOUSLY, SIR, THE THE DRAINAGE WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO ALL OF THE CITY DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS, THE DEP REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS YOU'D HAVE TO GET A DRAINAGE PERMIT FROM THE FDOT.
SO THAT WILL ALL BE HANDLED APPROPRIATELY.
I CAN'T TELL YOU FROM THE PRELIMINARY SOIL STUDIES AND THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY ISSUES WITH PERCOLATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, JUST WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS CHANGE TO THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING THAT'LL BE THE NEXT CASE UP.
HAVING SAID THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD OR FROM THE PUBLIC.
THANK YOU. WARNER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
YES, MA'AM. JUST QUICKLY JUST TO ELABORATE ON THE PROJECT.
HOW MANY UNITS WE RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED, IT WOULD BE FOUR 20 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH WOULD BE TWENTY SIX UNITS BASED ON THAT ACREAGE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT MANY WILL FIT ON THE PROPERTY BASED ON PARKING AND DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR IN OUR SITE PLANNING PROCESS YET.
IT WILL BE SOMETHING APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY FIT SO MUCH THERE. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF USE, IT'S GOING TO BE RENTAL UNITS, HIGH END RENTAL UNITS.
THERE'S A REALLY NICE VIEW ACROSS THE STREET OF THE RIVER THERE.
SO WE PLAN TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
ALL THE NEW EMPLOYEES BEING HIRED BY HARRIS AND NORTHROP GRUMMAN AND EVERYBODY ELSE NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. SO WE PLAN TO TO USE IT FOR THAT.
THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
YES, SIR. HOW MANY STORIES ARE YOU PLANNING TO GO UP? WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO DO PARKING AROUND IT OR UNDERNEATH IT YET.
I CAN'T SEE IT BEING MORE THAN THREE TO FOUR STOREYS.
THE HEIGHT LIMIT COULD CALL FOR UP TO 70 FEET, BUT I CAN'T SEE US GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR THAT. JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT ONCE YOU GO ABOVE TWO STOREYS, YOU'RE SETBACK IS EQUAL TO YOUR HEIGHT.
SO IF I TAKE THAT PROPERTY AND TAKE A 70 FOOT SETBACK ALL THE WAY AROUND, I END UP WITH A PRETTY SMALL LITTLE ENVELOPE.
SO, SO IT SORT OF AS A SELF-REGULATING SETBACK ON ITS OWN.
I'M SURE. UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS THIS IS IN THE BAYFRONT.
YES, SIR. WHY NOT A BMI TO BE THE BMI, UAV OR THE CMU DESIGNATION? JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T PLAN ON DOING MIXED USE.
HONEST ANSWER, LIKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PURE RESIDENTIAL.
I WILL OPEN FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? YOU WERE OPPOSED.
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OR IN FAVOR? IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST TO THE PODIUM PLACE.YES, I DID. MY NAME IS SUSAN CONNOLLY, I LIVE AT 39 ON ONE DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
AND IN CASTAWAY COVE CONDOMINIUMS, WHICH IS BASICALLY DIRECTLY.
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE HAVE 50 UNITS IN CASTAWAY COVE.
I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY KNOCKED ON ANY OF OUR DOORS.
AND WHAT'S IN THAT AREA IS A MOBILE HOME PARK AND SCATTERED HOMES.
TO SAY THAT THE IMPACT ON RECREATIONAL USE, THAT THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT, I DISAGREE WITH THIS. UH, WE'RE LOCATED RIGHT ON THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
WE'RE ONE OF THE CASTAWAY POINT PARK IS THERE PADDLING PARADISE? THERE'S CANOEING AND BOATING ACCESS.
IT'S ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING PIECES OF PROPERTY RIGHT ON THE RIVERFRONT THAT THE PUBLIC AND ACCESS THAT THE PUBLIC AND IT IS WELL USED.
AND PEOPLE COME AND FISH AND RECREATIONAL USE AND CHILDREN.
YOU CAN PUT TWENTY SIX UNITS THERE AND NOT HAVE AN IMPACT.
THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES IN PALM BAY TO DEVELOP LEAVE THIS AS IT WAS MEANT TO BE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ZONED COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY.
LET THIS BE A UNIQUE, TINY PLACE, AT LEAST ONE THAT PEOPLE CAN STILL SEE THE RIVER AND NOT HOMES.
LET US BREATHE, LET US BE IN TOUCH WITH NATURE.
ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT RECREATIONAL USE.
LET THIS BE A HIGHLIGHT OR OUR OR OUR TOWN.
WE ARE. THE LAGOON HOUSE IS THERE, TURKEY CREEK, IT'S CLOSE TO TURKEY CREEK, SO THERE IT'S JUST A VERY MAGICAL, MAGICAL PLACE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
ANYONE ELSE AGAINST THIS? SO YOU WANT TO SEE THE PODIUM? WELL, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A FORM TO SPEAK.
THEY MAY I'D LIKE THAT WHEN THEY WHEN THEY FINISH.
YEAH. LET ME SPEAK AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND FILL IT OUT, ALL RIGHT, SO I DON'T HOLD UP.
ALL RIGHT. WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID JUST NOW, I'M NOT AGAINST IT, BUT TO COME BEFORE YOU AS A BODY AND ASK FOR SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT OR COUNTY.
THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS HE'S GOING TO HAVE.
MY EXPERIENCE IN LIFE, YOU COME BEFORE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCE IS GOING TO COST YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE AND YOU ALREADY GOT THE FLOOR PLAN BUILT.
WELL, THERE'S NO FLOOR PLAN BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND IT'S AFTER DOESN'T MAKE IT IN THE REAL WORLD.
IT'S NOT AN AFTER. WE NEED TO KNOW NOW HOW MANY UNITS HE'S GOING TO PUT IN.
THAT'S MY MAIN QUESTION FOR BEING AGAINST IT, THE SECOND IS I'VE LIVED IN FLORIDA ALL MY LIFE AND I HAVE SEEN US GROW UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I MOVED UP HERE BECAUSE IT REMINDED ME OF THE OLD FLORIDA THAT I GREW UP IN.
AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I SEE IN OUR AREA IS WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COMING IN, THEY DON'T
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PARTICIPATE. WHAT BICYCLE PATHS, DEVELOPMENT OF THE WIDEN OF THE ROAD FOR PEOPLE TO TO BE ABLE TO WALK WITH THEIR CHILDREN? THEY JUST COME IN. THEY BUILD, THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY AND THEY LEAVE.GOD BLESS THEM. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M AGAINST AND AGAINST THEM NOT PUTTING UP MONEY TO HELP THE COUNTY DO THESE THINGS FOR THE REST OF US CAPITAL.
CAPITALISM IS GOOD, BUT WHEN YOU DON'T TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND DO BETTER FOR THE NEXT GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE CHILDREN, THAT'S WHAT I'M FIGHTING FOR HERE, THE CHILDREN.
THERE IS NO BICYCLE PASSED IN THAT WHOLE SECTION.
THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS IN THAT SECTION FOR KIDS.
AND THAT TWO FEET THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE US MONEY FOUR YEARS AGO TO WIDEN THE ROAD. HAVE ANY OF YOU TAKE A BICYCLE RIDE ON? I THINK THAT'S A 50 MILE AN HOUR ZONE THERE.
ANY VEHICLE THAT COMES BIAS, IT WOBBLES THE BICYCLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BICYCLE ROAD, WE DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK TO WALK, YOU GO DOWN FURTHER AND THEY HAVE BICYCLES PASS, THEY HAVE THE SIDEWALKS, YOU GO FURTHER BACK, THERE'S BICYCLE PATHS, MEANING THE SIDEWALKS.
SO ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LETTING DEVELOPERS COME IN, LET US PUT IN THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TO DO THESE THINGS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE RENTING OR SELLING TO.
AND THAT'S IT. MR., WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PARK OVER THERE ACROSS THE STREET.
HAVE WE ASKED THEM, HAVE THEY? HAS ANYBODY ASKED THEM? ARE THEY PUTTING UP ANY MONEY TO HELP WITH THE PARK FOR BEAUTIFICATION, TO REDEVELOP TO TO DO THINGS? THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT THIS BODY CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPERS PARTICIPATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST COME IN, BUILD SOMETHING AND WALK AWAY. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY UNITS I LIVE THERE.
AND IT'S AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, I COME OUT AND I HAVE TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN TO GO TOWARD TOWN BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT COME OVER THAT HILL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BUT WHEN YOU COME OVER, WHEN YOU'RE PULLING OUT, THOSE CARS ARE COMING, THEY'RE COMING FAST AND THE POLICE OFFICERS DO A GREAT JOB TRYING TO GIVE TICKETS, BUT YOU CAN ONLY GIVE SO MANY TICKETS.
SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE A STATE PROBLEM AND A FEDERAL PROBLEM WITH THE SPEED ZONES THERE.
WE PUT MORE PEOPLE IN THERE AND HAVE MORE WILD ACCIDENTS AND WE SEE OUR POLLS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
THEY RUN OUR POLLS DOWN EVERY OTHER DAY.
A POLL IS KNOCKED DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE EXCESSIVELY SPEEDING, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE PULLING OUT TOWARD A DOUBLE LANE HIGHWAY.
IT'S GOING TO BE MURDER FOR SOMEBODY.
THAT'S IT. I THINK YOU'RE VERY MUCH AND YOU'RE VERY GOOD.
APPRECIATE IT. WE HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.
YOU WANT ME TO DO IT HERE? YES.
OK. MY NAME IS VICTOR FAVA, AND I LIVE AT 39 ONE NORTHEAST PALM BAY FLORIDA CASTAWAY COVE. A ZIP IS THREE THREE TWO NINE ZERO FIVE NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT LET'S TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN, WHICH IS THE NEXT GENERATION.
HELLO, MY NAME IS JERRY NADLER, I ALSO OWN AT THIRTY NINE POINT ONE DIXIE HIGHWAY, WHICH IS CASTAWAY COVE.
AS YOU HEARD, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I'M NOT REALLY FOR OR AGAINST.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS REAL WELL.
CAN I JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HIM BACK AND FORTH? NO. OK. REALLY, MY.
OK, COOL. WELL, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS THE THE APPLICANT IS ONE PERSON'S NAME AND SCOTT'S HERE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.
IS IT? IS THIS A BIG LLC? IS THIS A BIG CORPORATION? I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A BIG CORPORATION COMING IN TO, YOU KNOW, SHOVE ANOTHER AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY.
NOW I KNOW THERE'S KIND OF A QUASI NUMBER OF 26.
BUT JUST DOWN THE STREET, THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER COMPLEX GOING IN.
SO IS THIS JUST GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE? THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.
JUST LIKE AT CONLIN, THEY'RE CLEARING ALL THAT LAND AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CONDOS OR APARTMENTS OR WHAT.
WHICH WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
HERE ARE THESE CONDOS OR APARTMENTS.
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY'RE THEIR APARTMENTS.
THE THE STORIES THAT KIND OF CONCERNED ME AND SOUNDS LIKE HE'S ON IT WITH, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THE SETBACK, DEPENDING UPON HOW TALL IT IS.
AND THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY CRITICAL.
I'M JUST KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY.
I THINK. NOWADAYS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AREA, IT'S NOT GREAT, BEAUTIFUL HOMES THERE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE DRIVEN THERE.
SO THE NEW PRODUCT PROBABLY BE PRETTY, BUT MY CONCERN IS THE DENSITY THERE, LIKE THE ONE
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GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME KIND OF DOT KIND OF STUFF THAT'S GOT TO GO ON THERE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC THERE IS REALLY BAD.
THERE IS NO WALKABILITY OR RIGHT.
YOU DON'T RIDE A BIKE OR WALK A WALK IN THAT AREA.
YOU JUST IT'S IT'S PRETTY BAD.
NOBODY KNOCKED ON MY DOOR, SO I DIDN'T I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THESE, THESE KIND OF THINGS.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS COMPANY HAS DONE A SIMILAR PRODUCT APARTMENT BUILDING, SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN BREVARD COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.
WHAT'S THEIR TRACK RECORD, DO THEY DO THEY HAVE 10 OTHERS THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS? AND DID THEY SAY THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE ABC AND WE ENDED UP WITH DEF KIND OF A PRODUCT THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.
I'D LIKE TO KIND OF KNOW THAT.
UM. YEAH, THE OTHER MULTIFAMILY JUST DOWN THE STREET IS A CONCERN, I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S NEW CONCRETE, THERE'S NEW LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING WATERSHED, I MEAN, THERE'S NEW NEW CONCRETE ALL OVER THE PLACE THAT DOES CREATE A WATER PROBLEM LIKE THE ONE PERSON WAS TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE RIGHT ON THE INDIAN RIVER, SO WATER IS A PRETTY BIG CONCERN FOR ALL OF US. AND I GUESS THAT'S MY KIND OF QUESTIONING.
AGAIN, I'M NOT FOR IT OR AGAINST IT.
I JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S HE KIND OF PLANNING.
THANK YOU. HEAR THEIR COMMENTS.
BILL. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THIS WAS JUST REGARDING THE RECREATION PORTION OF THE ANALYSIS, AND THE CURRENT CURRENT STANDINGS IS ONE ACRE PER ONE THOUSAND POPULATION FOR A POPULATION OF ONE THOUSAND.
BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIND IS WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE THESE DECISIONS AND SAY, WELL, THERE'S GOING TO BE WE HAVE ENOUGH LAND MASTER.
WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKS AND RECREATION TO COVER THE POPULATION.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THIS AREA? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH BECAUSE IT'S ALL DETERMINED BY POPULATION? YET WE HAVE THE BIGGEST PARK IN BREVARD COUNTY.
WELL, THAT'S THE ACREAGE OF THAT.
ONE PARK WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ENOUGH ACREAGE TO COVER THE POPULATION FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF PALM BAY. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE'RE GETTING ENOUGH RECREATIONAL AREAS WITHIN LOCAL COMMUNITIES. IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH LAND MASS ALREADY DEDICATED TO PARKS AND RECREATION, BUT NOTHING IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN THEY MADE THIS STATEMENT OF RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT WAS THAT BASED ON THE CALCULATION OF THIS IMMEDIATE AREA, OR WAS THAT BASED ON THE TOTAL 82 SQUARE MILES OF CITY OF PALM BAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE OTHER.
THE AUDIENCE. AND I'LL BRING IT TO THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER THE ADDRESS, SOME OF THESE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THREE OUT OF THE FOUR THAT CAME UP HAD CONCERNS BUT WEREN'T AGAINST IT, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.
ALL FOUR LIVE IN THE CONDO ACROSS THE STREET.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I DID NOT GET ACROSS THERE TO KNOCK ON YOUR DOORS.
WE HAD TO MEET LATE, LATE STAGE.
I TRIED TO PRIMARILY CONCENTRATE WITH THE PEOPLE ON MY SIDE OF U.S.
ONE. IT'S A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY, LIKE YOU SAID, 50 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
SO I DID CONCENTRATE MY EFFORTS IN TERMS OF THE NEIGHBORS OVER THERE.
THERE'S FIFTY ONE, I BELIEVE, OR 50 UNITS IN THAT BUILDING.
SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO KNOCK ON ALL THOSE DOORS WITHOUT HAVING SOMEONE CALL THE AUTHORITIES. OK, SO I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THESE.
THE COMPANY IS MYSELF AND SOME INVESTORS THAT I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'VE BUILT PRODUCTS SIMILAR TO THIS IN THE MARTIN COUNTY AREA.
THE PRODUCT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD AGAIN IS LUXURY RENTAL APARTMENTS IN TERMS OF DENSITY.
THE CITY HAS LESS THAN TWO PERCENT OF ITS COMPLETE AREA OF THE CITY, ZONED AS MULTIFAMILY. CURRENTLY, MS. CONNOLLY'S PRIMARY CONCERN SEEM TO BE THE RECREATION.
THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ON THE RIVER, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RIVER.
WE, AND AGAIN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND ACRES OF PARK PER 1000 PEOPLE, THAT SORT OF FALLS INTO HER CONCERNED.
WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT QUITE A LOT OF PARK AREA WITHIN A BLOCK OF US.
SO IN TERMS OF THAT CONCERN, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY WELL COVERED IN TERMS OF SIDEWALKS AND TRAFFIC AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT'S ALL COVERED UNDERNEATH DOT PERMITTING. I WOULD SUSPECT VERY STRONGLY THAT WE WOULD END UP WITH A DECELERATION LANE HERE. I WOULD ALSO SUSPECT VERY STRONGLY THAT WE'LL END UP WITH SIDEWALKS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF OF EVERYTHING THAT GETS BUILT ALONG THERE, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A STANDARD
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THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU BUILD PROJECTS ON U.S.ONE. I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING SIDEWALKS ON THE BACK SIDE OF IT ALONG WEYBURN STREET AS WELL JUST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
THE REASON I HAVEN'T NAILED DOWN THE NUMBER OF UNITS YET IS BECAUSE THE THE ENTITLEMENT FEES FOR THINGS LIKE ARCHITECTS, CIVIL ENGINEERS, LAND SURVEYORS, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT THE ARCHITECT ALONE ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS WILL BE 50 TO SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND FEE.
SO BEFORE YOU START GOING DOWN THAT PATH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ZONED PROPERLY.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY, WHAT I'M PLANNING TO DO WITH IT, THE APPROXIMATE HEIGHT SETBACKS.
I CAN TELL YOU ALL OF THAT, BUT I DO NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN YET UNTIL WE AT LEAST GET TO THE POINT OF YOUR APPROVAL.
WE WILL BE WORKING ON A SITE PLAN VERY SOON AS SOON AS WE GET YOUR APPROVAL, AND THAT IS BEFORE WE EVEN FINISH WITH THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
HOPEFULLY, NEXT MONTH, THE IMPACT FEES THAT THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
YOU KNOW, FIGURE ON THE ORDER OF IF WE DID TWENTY SIX UNITS, THERE'S THOSE UNITS ARE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY WOULD BE VALUED IF THEY WERE RESIDENTIAL SALE UNITS, THEY'D BE PROBABLY VALUED AT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS EACH.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THE THE IMPACT FEES THAT THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE, THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY FUNDS ALL THE PARKS AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS FOR.
SO ANY OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES, THINGS, THINGS LIKE PARKS, THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS AND THE ROADS, ALL THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT'S PAID BY A VERY, VERY, YOU KNOW, OUR PORTION IS PAID BY A BIG CHECK TO THE TO THE CITY.
I BELIEVE I'VE ANSWERED MOST OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR ANY MORE FROM ANYONE OR FROM THE BOARD.
YES, SIR. JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, WANTED TO CONFIRM THE YOU MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS? IS WAS THIS A PART OF YOUR REQUIREMENT OR IT WAS NOT A PART OF MY REQUIREMENT, I JUST DID IT ON MY OWN. I'VE ACTUALLY GOT.
THERE'S ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AND I'VE HATCHED THE PROPERTIES WHERE I ACTUALLY HAVE LETTERS ATTACHED.
THESE ARE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT I'VE MADE SIX COPIES OF THIS. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE THIS MANY OF.
SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE COPIES OF THESE, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE IT INTO THE RECORD.
BUT I'VE AGAIN RECEIVED VERBAL APPROVAL FROM MANY MORE NEIGHBORS.
BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT I'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED EMAILS AND LETTERS FROM.
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR MADAM CHAIR.
WE'LL LET THE APPLICANT SIT DOWN AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
YES, MA'AM. I APOLOGIZE, VICKI NORTHRUP, BUT THIS IS MY FIRST.
DO YOU PROVIDE ANY KIND OF ARTIST'S RENDERING OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? I HAVE NOT YET THAT WILL BE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
WAS THE. OR BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION.
COMMENTS BOARD, THE THE YES, MADAM CHAIR, THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT I HAVE IS.
I JUST HATE TO SEE US TAKE MORE COMMERCIAL AWAY FROM FROM THE BAY FRONT FROM U.S.
ONE. AND IT JUST IT JUST APPEARS THAT BECAUSE OF THE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE ACREAGE.
AND AGAIN, I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE A ARTIST REDEMPTION OF IT.
SO THAT CAN OBVIOUSLY FLUCTUATE AND CHANGE.
FOR ME, ANYWAY, IT'S JUST UNCOMFORTABLE LAND USE.
AT OR FOR THAT AREA? SACHSE. WELL, NO, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO THERE'S JUST
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THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BOARD.THE OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO TO ADD, I KNOW WHEN WE DO PROJECTS LIKE THIS, EVERYTHING WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC STUDY AND ALL THESE STUDIES TO MAKE SURE IT MAKES SENSE.
SO I DO WANT THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW IS THAT ONCE IT GOES HERE, IT'S NOT LIKE THE CITY JUST TAKES WHATEVER THEY DO.
IT GOES THROUGH OUR RIGOROUS, YOU KNOW, REVIEW AND TO ENSURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
SO WHEREAS THERE ARE ITEMS OR THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY LOVE, I PERSONALLY WILL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT WE DO NEED THE DIVERSITY IN THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WE OFFER, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT ON THE RIVER SIDE.
I'M SO. DO WE? YEAH, IT'S ONE TO RESPOND TO.
PERSONALLY, I'D MUCH RATHER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS A LUXURY, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 26 APARTMENT BUILDING AND ANOTHER STRIP CENTER THAT'S GOING TO BE HALF VACANT, THAT'S GOING TO DETERIORATE.
I MEAN, THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING WATERFRONT OF WATERFRONT ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DOESN'T DO THAT.
MIXED USE IS FINE AND MULTIFAMILY IS TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
THAT'S WHAT INCREASES THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND OF THE AREA.
CERTAINLY. IT AND THE OTHER COMMENTS.
AND WE HAVE A A MOTION A MOTION BY PHILIP SECOND.
ALEX, THE NEXT CASE. 10, 20, 20, TWO.
THIS IS THE ZONING PORTION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE CP 10, 20 22.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL TO ALM 20, WHICH IS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS ONE POINT THREE ZERO ACRES.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
THERE WAS AN ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE ON FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS THE APPLICANT STATED TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT TO ENABLE THE DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FOR A MULTIFAMILY USE.
CHANGE IN THE ZONING WILL HELP REVITALIZE THE AREA.
THE DESIGNATION OF R.M 20 ZONING FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S DESIRE FOR AND PLAN FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE BAYFRONT DISTRICT.
SO ITEM THREE PERTAINING TO REZONING, AN AMOUNT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THE GENERAL AREA IN THE CITY HAVING THE SAME CLASSIFICATION, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ACRES OF R.M 20 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE LAND THAT IS ZONED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL FURTHER THE PURPOSES OF CHAPTER 185 IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
HEY. AN APPLICANT IS HERE AS ANY BOARD MEMBER, HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
AND JUST BRIEFLY, MR. WARNER TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN BEFORE, AS FAR AS IT JUST BEING JUST RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL. THE NEIGHBORS REALLY WANT IT.
THEY DO NOT WANT COMMERCIAL THERE.
THAT'S BEEN THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS SAID TO ME.
SO, SO JUST I HOPE THAT THAT HELPS TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN A LITTLE BIT THERE.
ALSO, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WOULD BE MUCH GREATER WITH A COMMERCIAL SITE THERE THAN IT WOULD BE WITH WITH RESIDENTIAL.
SO AGAIN, THAT CONCERN OF THAT HILL AND THAT CURVE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE I THINK WE'RE ADDRESSING BOTH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE ISSUE.
I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TRY TO HOPE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN BEFORE. ALSO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANKS VERY MUCH TO ALEX AND THE STAFF.
THEY'VE JUST BEEN REALLY GREAT AND GOT THIS ONTO THE AGENDA REALLY QUICKLY, AND I WANT TO APPRECIATE OUR HARD WORK.
THANK YOU. OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? OPPOSED.
ON A. SUSAN CONNOLLY, THIRTY NINE, OH, ONE DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
I SIT HERE AND I'M LISTENING HERE, I LIVE HERE.
AND WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS DESCRIBING IS NOT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT I LIVED NEAR OUR TRAILER PARKS.
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WITH DRUG DEALING, WE'VE HAD INCIDENTS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN CASTAWAY COVE.THESE UNITS ARE NOT GOING TO ATTRACT L3 HARRIS PEOPLE.
THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE ANY OF YOU DRIVEN BY THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY? WHAT IS BEING DESCRIBED NEIGHBORS IN FAVOR, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE PROBABLY LIVING AT POVERTY LINE.
THAT OUR. YOU DON'T THEY'RE NOT THERE.
THEY'RE SMALL, THEY'RE RUN DOWN.
UM. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, IT'S OWNED, IT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IT BE COMMERCIAL. I DON'T SEE COMMERCIAL BEING ONLY STRIP MALLS.
I'M THINKING OF COMMERCIAL THAT CAN BE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
YES, THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WATER.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THE WATER, YOU CAN AT LEAST GET GLIMPSES JUST DOWN THE STREET WHERE THE LAGOON HOUSE IS.
IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES THAT YOU CAN DRIVE AND DOWN THAT WAY THERE IS SOME WALKING ROADS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE WATER THAT YOU CAN GO DOWN AT CASTAWAY POINT AND PUT YOUR FEET IN THE WATER.
UM. I HEARD HIM SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD SELL FOR OR OR WHAT.
BUT AGAIN, TWENTY OR TWENTY SIX UNITS ON ONE POINT THREE THREE ACRES.
NONE OF IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
NEIGHBORS WANTING IT, THESE NEIGHBORS PROBABLY ARE WORKING.
DRIVING. THAT IT IS NOT THAT KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, AND I URGE YOU, MR. WARNER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND ALSO MR. OLSZEWSKI, I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP ABOUT THE WATERSHED AND THOSE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, I THINK EVEN ASIDE FROM ALL OF THIS.
IT'S IT'S CRITICAL BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE LAGOON THAT DEVELOPERS BE ASKED AND HELD TO STANDARDS ABOUT WATER RUNOFF, ABOUT PERMEABLE PAVEMENT PAVEMENT.
IT SHOULD BE ALL OF IT SHOULD BE.
WE HAVE OUR WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT.
IT'S A PIECE OF UNDEVELOPED LAND.
LET'S NOT DO IT THE WAY THAT IS.
HAPPENING NOW, LET'S SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE TO BE THOUGHTFUL.
AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS HERE, I'LL TRUST IT, BUT. I CAN'T BELIEVE ON SUCH A SKETCHY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WHAT WORLD DO I LIVE IN? WHEN I. PURCHASE SOMETHING.
THIS DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A BUSINESS THAT IS GOING TO BUILD A HOME OR A HOME SITE.
IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE MAKING SIX FIGURE.
INCOME. WHEN ANY OF YOU GO IN AND BUY SOMETHING ON THE HOW CAN YOU EVEN APPROVE SOMETHING WITH? I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE BILL SOMETHING HERE.
NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS, OH, IF IT'S THIS MANY, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CUTBACKS, WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE THEM SMALLER.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MICRO, TINY HOMES? I CAN'T EVEN VISUALIZE IT.
SO, YES, I'M AGAINST IT, I JUST APPEAL TO YOU THAT THIS AREA IS IS A RECREATIONAL AREA.
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LET'S NOT CONTINUE TO SHRINK THAT.LET'S CONTINUE TO EXPAND IT AND DRAW TO IT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HAVE THIS IN THEIR LIVES.
AND AND I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT SAID WE ALL SHOULD HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE BACK. GIVE BACK TO THINK OF OTHERS TO THINK OF THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
I'M FORTUNATE I LIVE AT CASTAWAY COVE.
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT THAT I ENDED UP THERE.
I'M THRILLED IT'S A PIECE OF HEAVEN BEING CLOSE TO THE WATER.
AND. AND IT MAKES ME APPRECIATE BEING IN PALM BAY.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LISTENING.
AND. I APPRECIATE I SERVE ON A BOARD WITH THE CITY, TOO, SO I APPRECIATE EACH ONE OF YOU GIVING OF YOUR TIME AND.
COMMITTED TO DOING THE VERY BEST YOU CAN.
WHEN ELSE WANT TO SPEAK, SIR? SO YOU ARE COMING UP TO THE.
OK. DO I NEED TO GET MY NAME AND EVERYTHING AGAIN? OK, VICTOR, FAR OF IT AT THIRTY NINE OH ONE NORTHEAST DIXIE HIGHWAY PALM BAY, FLORIDA THREE TWO NINE OH FIVE.
OK, I SAW ALL OF YOU IS LISTENING, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR AND NO DISRESPECT.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO? BUT MY CYCLE PATHS AND I AM OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU LEAVE A DOOR OPEN, THINGS DON'T CLOSE. HEY, AND WHEN YOU TELL ME THAT IT'S UNDER THE STATE REGULATION OR YOU TELL ME IT'S THE COUNTY, I'VE SEEN THIS.
I WANT TO KNOW AS A TAXPAYER, I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY UNITS, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOLD FOR. HOW BIG ARE THEY? WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE UNITS? AND IS IT GOING TO DEVELOP WHERE WE CAN GET YOUNG PEOPLE TO COME IN WITH THEIR CHILDREN, WHICH GIVES US THE NEXT GENERATION? THIS IS JUST A SMALL LITTLE TOWN AND I'M NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW. RIGHT NOW, WE GOT TO TRAIN TRACKS BEING BUILT THROUGH OUR TOWN.
THAT'S GOING TO BRING DISNEY WORLD TRAFFIC FROM SOUTH FLORIDA ALL THE WAY UP, THERE'S ALREADY TWO TRAIN STATIONS ALREADY BEING BUILT OR WILL BE FINISHED.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE THIRD ONE IS IT GOING TO BE AROUND US? IT'S GOING TO BE UP DOWN FURTHER NORTH, BUT IT'S COMING.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT TRAIN IS.
THAT MEANS MORE PEOPLE, MORE CHILDREN.
I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT I WISH THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, WHICH IS A DEVELOPER AND HE'S HERE TO MAKE MONEY AND ON OFF OF THAT.
BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY ON THE BOARD ASK, ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING FOR THESE, WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS ASKING FOR FOR THE CHILDREN? THAT HIGHWAY. YOU CAN'T SEND A CHILD ACROSS THAT HIGHWAY TO GO AND PLAY AT THE PARK.
IT'S CRAZY. AND YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU LIVE LONG ENOUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO READ ABOUT IT IN YOUR OWN PAPER THAT PEOPLE GOT SLAUGHTERED OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY DRIVE. AND IT GOES BACK TO THE STATE.
DO YOU KNOW THE IT TAKES AN ACT OF THE THE HOUSE IN TALLAHASSEE? THEY'RE PRACTICALLY CHANGE A SPEED LIMIT ON THAT HIGHWAY.
I WENT THROUGH THIS AND BRICKELL IN MIAMI.
THEY GOT IT DOWN TO 25 MILES AN HOUR.
BUT YOU KNOW HOW MANY YEARS THAT TOOK, HOW MANY PEOPLE GOT HIT? THIS IS ALL I'M ASKING.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO STOP THEM FROM BUILDING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SPEND HIS MONEY. AND HE USED THE WORD NO DISRESPECT TO HIM.
HE USED THE WORD RENT, AND THEN HE USES A WORD SELL, WHICH IS IT.
IS IT GOING TO BE A RENTAL? IS IT GOING TO BE WEEKEND WARRIORS THAT HAVE COME IN, GET DRUNK, DRIVE ACROSS THE ROAD? OR ARE WE GOING TO BUILD A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND OUT? I DON'T SEE ANY OF THIS, AND THEN I HEAR HIM SAY.
WELL, I'M GOING TO GET BACK WITH YOU.
WELL, HE'S NOT GETTING BACK WITH YOU, PEOPLE.
HE'S GETTING BACK WITH THE ZONING DEPARTMENT.
HE'S GETTING BACK WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU PROBABLY WON'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN YOUR CIRCLE OF DOING THESE THINGS.
LET'S ASK THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PUT THE SEAL ON IT.
AND ALL I CARE ABOUT IS THE KIDS.
SHOPPING CENTERS, YOU'RE RIGHT.
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THE DEVELOPER IS RIGHT.WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE MOVING BACK AND FORTH IN OUR COMMUNITY ON A SAFE STREET? IT'S NOT THERE FOR US IN THIS AREA.
IT'S NOT HERE. NO, I DON'T MEAN TO KEEP REPETITION, BUT IF I CAN'T SELL YOU ON THE CONCEPT THAT IT'S ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S SAFETY TO COME AND GO FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO VOTE ON NOW AND OTHER THEN MIGHT AS WELL NOT HAVE ANYTHING, JUST LET IT BE DODGE CITY LIKE MIAMI.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE HEADING, ANY METROPOLIS AREA THAT DOESN'T SET PACE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND BUILD, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS FOR THE WATER RUNOFFS, PARKS.
BICYCLES HAVE TO BUILD IT NOW WHILE IT'S STARTING TO GROW.
BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, AND I THANK YOU ALL, REALLY, THAT'S HOW I SEE IT AT MY AGE.
WHEN ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK? MY NAME IS LOUISE FORTUNE, I LIVE AT THIRTY NINE POINT ONE DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
THIRTY EIGHT YEARS AGO, I MOVED TO FLORIDA AND I STARTED OUT IN PALM BEACH COUNTY AND IT WAS GREAT. IN THE 18 YEARS I LIVED THERE, THE GROWTH WAS RIDICULOUS.
MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED OUT, GOT A HOUSE IN MARTIN COUNTY.
THERE WAS A LOT OF GREEN SPACES.
A LOT OF PLACES FOR BIRDS TO LIVE.
ONE DAY I DECIDED TO COME HOME A DIFFERENT ROUTE.
I GOT TO THIS ONE CORNER AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS.
THEY HAD CUT DOWN AN ENTIRE FOREST TO BUILD A MEDICAL BUILDING.
FEW MONTHS AGO, ACROSS THE STREET, THEY CUT ALL THOSE TREES DOWN THEIR BUILDING APARTMENT BUILDINGS. SO I CAME UP HERE.
AND NOW THEY WANT TO BUILD MORE.
I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM ALL THE CONGESTION FROM DOWN THERE.
AND IF YOU BUILD, LET THESE PEOPLE BUILD.
THEN IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AS BAD, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU ALL DON'T LIVE ON DIXIE HIGHWAY LIKE WE DO IN TRYING TO GET OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT CAN BE A ROYAL PAIN IN THE BUTT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK FOR? SO AGAIN, JERRY NADLER AT 39 01 DIXIE HIGHWAY.
WOULD BE IN REGARDS TO THE RENT AND RENT ABILITY, AND SOMEBODY DID JUST BRING UP, YOU KNOW, THE WEEKEND WARRIOR KIND OF THING.
RULES OR WHATEVER FOR AIRBNB AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T I'M NOT REAL SURE THAT A COMMERCIAL OR MY EXPRESSION PUT A WAL-MART KIND OF THING RIGHT THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HELP US.
I THINK SOME RESIDENTIAL MIGHT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NICE, BUT I WISH HE WOULD ADDRESS.
IS HE GOING TO? IS THIS A TOTAL WE'RE RENTING THIS OUT WEEK TO WEEK, MONTH TO MONTH, YEAR TO YEAR KIND OF A DEAL.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOME OF THE FAMILIES THAT PROBABLY DO LIVE AROUND THERE, THEY PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO RENT IN A NICER PLACE.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE KIND OF ALLUDING TO IS IT WOULD BE NICE FOR, YOU KNOW, MY KIDS OR GRANDKIDS OR OLD SCHOOLMATES TO, YOU KNOW, LIVE IN NICE PLACES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT IN REGARDS TO OUR OUR VALUE FOR OUR INVESTMENTS IN THAT AREA. SO IF HE COULD ADDRESS THAT AND I THINK ALSO, AS YOU WERE EXPLAINING, THIS ISN'T A CUT AND DRY KIND OF THING.
HE'S GOT A LONG ROAD TO GO BEFORE THIS IS ALL KIND OF DONE AND SAID WITH, BUT IT IS NICE TO KIND OF AIR AND HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF HEAR, IS HE PLANNING ON, YOU KNOW, RENT WHENEVER THEY WANT? OR IS IT A YEAR TO YEAR LEASE KIND OF A DEAL? AND I KNOW IT'S NOT IN STONE AND HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS OR ANYTHING YET, BUT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? AND, SIR, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THESE COMMENTS? I JUST AGAIN, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY IT AGAIN.
THESE ARE RENTALS, NOT SALES AGAIN.
THEY ARE INTENDED TO BE LONG TERM RENTALS LIKE MINIMUM ONE YEAR LEASE, NOT AIRBNB'S, NOT WHAM BAM. HOWEVER, THE GENTLEMAN STATED IT.
NOTHING LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF WHO, SAME PEOPLE THAT PAY TWO THOUSAND PLUS DOLLARS A MONTH AT THE PLACE DOWN THE STREET AT CONLIN WOULD BE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT LIVED HERE.
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EXCEPT THEY ACTUALLY GET TO HAVE A RIVER VIEW HERE INSTEAD OF THE RAILROAD TRACK VIEW THAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON.THAT'S WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE HERE.
AND MAN, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME YOU WANT TO COME OVER AND WALK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ME, I'D BE HAPPY TO WALK WITH YOU.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, YOU CAN WALK DOWN THAT STREET DOWN HIAWATHA OR WEYBURN STREET THERE, AND YOU CANNOT SEE THE RIVER.
THERE'S BRAZILIAN PEPPERS, RIGHT? I'M SORRY. THERE ARE BRAZILIAN PEPPERS GROWN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF I'M SORRY, THEY'RE BRAZILIAN PEPPERS AND BUSH GROWN.
YOU COULDN'T SEE THE RIVER UNLESS YOU GOT OUT OF CHAINSAW.
SO ALSO AS FAR AS DANGLING YOUR FEET IN THE WATER AND ALL, WE'RE NOT BLOCKING ANYONE'S VIEW OF THAT. WE'RE ACROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF U.S.
ONE. I THINK THAT WAS MOST OF THE CONCERNS.
ALSO, IN TERMS OF THE BICYCLE PATH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE WORKED OUT WITH THE CITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS PER THEIR STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS.
OH, OH. OR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE CASES BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY LIKE? OH, JUST A QUICK COMMENT TO STAFF STAFF I DO WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO GIVE A QUICK ANALYSIS OR THIS THIS HOW DOES AN APPLICANT GO FROM HERE TO GETTING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE BUILDING UP? BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW AS THE BOARD HERE WE'RE NOT JUST BLINDLY APPROVING AND NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE END.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY WHO THESE AFFECT, UNDERSTAND.
SO I'LL TELL YOU THAT AFTER THIS IS PRESENTED TO THE ANZ BOARD, THEN IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN AFTER THAT POINT, THEY WILL THE APPLICANT WILL CALL OUR OFFICE AND SET UP A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING AT WHICH POINT WE WILL HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING OFFICIAL MYSELF FIRE.
ALL OF ALL OF THE TEAM LEADERS THERE AT THAT MEETING, AND WE SIT AND WE TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND THE SPECIFICS TO THIS PARCEL AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO TO DO A FORMAL SUBMITTAL FOR A SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
YOU AND OF COURSE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WHEN WE EVALUATE. YES.
SO WE TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT AND THEN WHEN THEY DO THEIR FORMAL SUBMITTAL THAN WE REVIEW IT AGAINST WHAT IS CURRENTLY OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS, AND YOU WOULD TELL IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
ABSOLUTELY. AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS AND SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING ALL OF THAT.
THANK YOU. DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD.
YES, FOR THIS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE TWO READINGS. AT WHEN THEY WHEN THEY GET IT, SO THIS WILL GO TO COUNCIL ON.
UM, SORRY, WE'RE IN MARCH NOW, THIS WILL GO TO COUNCIL IN APRIL, TWO READINGS IN APRIL.
AND AT THAT TIME, PEOPLE CAN SHOW UP AND BRING UP THERE.
THE FINAL STOP. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL STOP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS THE FIRST STOP YOU CAN PUT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ONE MORE SORRY, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY AND IT'S HARD TO DO IT IN A BRIEF SENSE AND DO IT JUSTICE.
BUT CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH ON FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC WHAT THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT AREA IS, IS ABOUT AND WHAT THE FACT THAT IT'S ORGANIZED AS A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND AND THE THINGS LIKE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT TAPPING INTO THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, JUST WHAT'S THE FLAVOR OF THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA SO THAT FOLKS CAN UNDERSTAND AND FULLY ANTICIPATE THAT IF IF SAID THEME IS SUCCESSFUL, JUST WHAT'S YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TO COME IN THERE IN THEIR IMMEDIATE AREA? SURE.
SO REDEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE OR AN UMBRELLA IS THEY LOOK AT CERTAIN SECTIONS OR AREAS THAT MIGHT BE CHALLENGING OR FACING SOME SORT OF POTENTIAL BLIGHT.
AND THE IDEA WITH IT IS TO INVEST RESOURCES TO REVITALIZE IT AND MAKE IT COME BACK TO LIFE. AND SO THAT IS THIS AREA THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS REDEVELOPMENT. STARTING THEN, JERRY, IF I COULD JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP AND THIS MAY BE
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REDUNDANT, SO TO SPEAK, BUT LET ME JUST ASK IT DIRECTLY, SO THROUGH THAT LENS IS THAT THE SENTIMENT OF STAFF THAT A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE, BECAUSE ALL WE HAVE IS THE NATURE FITS THAT THEME OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT AREA.PRECIOUS LORD, I HAVE A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE CPC 10, 20, 20 TO 2ND APRIL 2ND FROM DAWN.
INQUIRIES. ALEX, WE HAVE THE NEXT PIECE.
YES. ELEVEN TWENTY, TWENTY TWO.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THE SITE CONSISTS OF THIRTEEN POINT NINE SIX ACRES PHILIP TO THE BACKGROUND.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF EMERSON ROAD, EAST OF THE ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE FUTURE LAND USE ANALYSIS.
IT IS THE INTENT FOR I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING.
THE INTENDED USE FOR THE THIRTEEN POINT NINE SIX ACRES PROPERTY IS FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE.
THE CHANGE WOULD ALLOW FOR HIGH QUALITY, DIVERSIFIED LIVING FOR THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE SCRUB POLYGON'S AS IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT AREA.
THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT DOES NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SUPPLY AND VARIETY OF SAFETY AND ATTRACTIVE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE CITY.
INSTEAD, IT WILL SERVE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN PALM BAY INFRASTRUCTURE, LOOKED AT UTILITIES, DRAINAGE AND SOLID WASTE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION WITH SCHOOLS.
AS FAR AS THE MULTIFAMILY WILL ADD HOUSING UNITS, BUT SOME IMPACTS TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM ARE ANTICIPATED.
HOWEVER, THERE IS ADJACENT CONCURRENCY SERVICES AREAS AND THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE.
AGAIN, THIS IS TWO ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS AND THEREFORE THE DENSITY INCREASE WOULD HAVE A DE MINIMIS OR NON IMPACT ON THE EXISTING RECREATION LEVEL OF SERVICES IDENTIFIED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
TRANSPORTATION WILL ALSO BE LOOKED AT AND, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE DOES NOT APPEAR TO INFRINGE UPON ANY OF THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE APPLICANT.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NONE OF THE APPLICANT CAME FORWARD.
SO AT THE DOOR SHUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO SLAM THEIR GUTS.
GOOD EVENING. I'M ON A SAUNDERS WITH BSE CONSULTANTS THREE 12 SOUTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA THREE TWO NINE ZERO ONE.
I HAD SORT OF A CALL IT A MINI PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL CUT IT A LITTLE SHORT.
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE'S GETTING A LITTLE TIRED THIS EVENING.
WHAT'S BEFORE HE WAS EXACTLY WHAT ALEX DESCRIBED, AND IT'S WRITTEN OUT, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SUCCINCTLY IN YOUR STAFF PACKET.
WE ARE LOOKING TO AMEND OR REVISE THE LAND USE FOR A 14 ABOUT APPROXIMATE 14 ACRE PARCEL FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY PART, PARTLY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LISTENING.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A RECURRING THEME AND TOPIC OF DISCUSSION, NOT ONLY IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETINGS, BUT ALSO IN CITY COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CITY RESIDENTS SOME, SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR LIVING.
AND SO REVISING THIS PIECE TO MULTIFAMILY, WE FEEL, IS ONE STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.
TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE NORTH OF US AND ADJACENT TO US, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN ME OR MIGHT RECALL SEEING ME IN HERE THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WE RECENTLY REVISED THE LAND USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY AS WELL, AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS MULTIFAMILY PIECE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE. AND SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS A BETTER TRANSITIONAL PIECE, PARTICULARLY IN THAT AREA, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING COMMERCIAL BACKING UP DIRECTLY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AND JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU.
WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO. WHEREAS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I LOVE MULTI FAMILY AND I LOVE THIS MISSING MIDDLE THAT WE'RE DOING. SURE.
AND I HEARD YOU SAID, YOU'RE LISTENING, BUT IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO WE ALSO WANT
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COMMERCIAL AND WHAT I SEE IS THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING WALKABLE CITIES.WE ARE JUST IT'S ALWAYS DRIVING TO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IN THIS AREA.
AND I WOULD LOVE STUFF TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OR IF THERE'S ANY COMMERCIAL LEFT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO THE NEXT ITEM FOLLOWING UP ON THIS, WHICH I WAS TRYING TO DO SEPARATE PRESENTATIONS THAT MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE GONE AHEAD AND PUT THEM TOGETHER THE THE UNDERLYING LAND USE AROUND THIS YEAR, WE'VE GOT ABOUT SIXTY TWO ACRES IN UNIFIED OWNERSHIP.
OF THOSE SIXTY TWO ACRES, WE'RE ASKING TO MODIFY 14 OF THEM TO MULTIFAMILY.
THE REMAINING 48 ACRES, WHICH IS YOUR NEXT ITEM, WILL NOT ONLY REMAIN THE FUTURE LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL, BUT ALSO WE'LL BE REQUESTING A COMMERCIAL ZONING CATEGORY FOR THEM FOR COMMERCIAL. SO FORTY EIGHT ACRES IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY, WHICH IS FOR THE AUDIENCE'S BENEFIT. IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE INTERSECTION OR THE TERMINAL POINT OF EMERSON AND THE PARKWAY TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL IS IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA.
I LOOKED IT UP TODAY TO CONFIRM THE NUMBERS WERE RIGHT AROUND ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE ACRES FROM THAT INTERSECTION SOUTH TO MALABAR ROAD AND THEN GOING ABOUT A HALF A MILE EAST ALONG MALABAR ROAD.
THERE'S ANOTHER 30 ACRES AND ANOTHER PIECE THERE SO THAT ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE ACRES OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS SPECIFIC TO THAT REGION.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE OVERALL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. IT TELLS YOU HOW MUCH CC IS IN THE CITY, BUT IN OUR SPECIFIC, I'LL SAY, QUADRANT OR AREA OF IMPACT.
IT'S AROUND ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, NOT INCLUDING THIS 14 ACRE PIECE. AND IF YOU COULD JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROJECT WHEN YOU SAY MULTIFAMILY. SO THE CITY'S MULTIFAMILY CODE OR ZONING UNDERLYING LAND USE AND ZONING CODE ALLOWS FOR TOWNHOMES DUPLEXES FOUR, SIX EIGHT PLEX'S AND ALSO THE STANDARD SORT OF TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY PRODUCT.
AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, DETAILED.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET. WE'RE NOT TO THE SITE PLAN.
BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ARE ENVISIONING THE TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY PRODUCT.
SO I WOULD ASSUME A THREE STORY APARTMENT STYLE BUILDING.
THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH THAT RECENTLY HAD ITS LAND USE AND PWD APPROVED THROUGH YOUR BOARD AND ALSO CITY COUNCIL, THERE ARE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT CONSISTS OF DUPLEXES AND FOUR AND SIX PLUS UNITS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE SOME VARIETY TO THAT.
OK. OK. IT HELPS WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE PROJECTS ALL SORT OF IN THE SAME.
YEAH. OK. OK, MADAM CHAIR, YES, MA'AM.
I JUST LIKE A MS. KARAFFA JUST SAID IT'S JUST THE COMMERCIAL.
HMM. AND YOU KNOW, WE DO WE FEEL AS THOUGH THAT SOMETIMES YOU ALL TAKE AWAY ALL THE COMMERCIAL AND THEN YOU WANT TO PLACE THAT AGAIN WITH MARKET DRIVEN RESIDENTIAL.
SO I THINK THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS AND LOOKING AT THE BAYFRONT IS THAT THE BAYFRONT IS IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.
THIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE IN OUR FLU, WHICH MUCH OF IT IS STILL LEFT UNDEVELOPED.
I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE SUCH A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR A DRIVING FORCE.
EVERY TIME I SEE, EVERY TIME I SEE ST.
JOHN'S HERITAGE PUTS ME IN MIND OF MARCUS WROTE HOW THEY DEVELOPED MARKETS, HE WROTE.
THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I SEE THAT.
SURE. SO BUT IT'S SO MUCH MISUSE OUT THERE WITH COMMERCIAL AND HOUSES, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
SURE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT.
OH. THANK YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU GUYS GOT A FOOTPRINT RIGHT NOW OUT THERE ON THE PARKWAY.
WE DON'T DISAGREE AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT FOOTPRINT ON THE PARKWAY, ON THE NEXT ON THE NEXT BUSINESS ITEM, ON YOUR AGENDA.
IF YOU IF YOU'D ENTERTAIN IT, WANT TO FLIP TO THAT MAP, YOU'LL SEE THE COMMERCIAL PARCELS THAT ARE STILL INTENDED TO TO REMAIN IN THOSE PARCELS ARE IN FACT, ON THE PARKWAY.
THEY'VE GOT FRONTAGE ALONG THOSE.
SO AGAIN, WITH ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE ACRES, INCLUDING THOSE 48 ACRES THAT WERE THAT'LL BE BEFORE YOU ON THE NEXT NEXT ITEM.
WE THINK THAT THERE'S CERTAINLY A SIGNIFICANT, IF NOT SATISFACTORY AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL IN THAT PARTICULAR POCKET THAT IS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE YOU TO RECALL THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT UTILITY, I'M SORRY, A SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING JUST NORTH OF THE CITY, JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS AT 192 IN THE PARKWAY.
SO THERE'S ALSO THE FEAR OF THERE BEING SORT OF AN OVERSATURATION, AND WE HEARD SOME NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STRIP MALLS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HALF VACANT.
THAT CERTAINLY IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTRIBUTE TO.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD NOT ONLY WITH THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THE COMMERCIAL
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COMPONENTS IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER THAT THAT IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY AND DOES PROVIDE THAT WALKABILITY IN THE, YOU KNOW, LIVE HERE, WORK HERE, PLAY HERE, ATMOSPHERE. HMM.THAT WAS THE GREAT SAVING MONEY RIGHT THERE.
AND I LIKE THE IDEA YOU SAID WORK HERE AS WELL.
SO WHEN WE THINK OF IT'S GOING TO BE ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
ARE WE ALSO THINKING OF OFFICE SPACES AT ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CATEGORY IS UP FOR GRABS FOR AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED? THE LEADER, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC AS WELL THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY CONSIDERING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE FOR THE THIRTEEN POINT NINE SIX ACRES.
WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE COMMERCIAL USE YET.
THE NEXT ITEM, YEAH, BUT THAT'S THAT'S TRUE.
THE ZONING WILL BE FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? YOU RAN AGAINST THIS APPLICATION.
AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD OR DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE CP 11, 2022.
I FEEL SICKENED BY. ALL IN FAVOR, I PROPOSED.
SO CPC 11, DASH 20 22, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM AEW PREFERRED COUNTY AGRICULTURAL TO R.M 20 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOR THIRTEEN POINT NINE SIX ACRES AND S.C.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL FOR FORTY SEVEN POINT EIGHTY THREE ACRES.
I COULD GO INTO ALL OF THE THINGS, BUT I FEEL LIKE ON THIS READ OR SPOKE TO THE MAJORITY OF THEM, THE ANALYSIS IS IN YOUR PACKET ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS AND MULCH AND SUPPORTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
MULTI-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY USES, AND THE COMMERCIAL ZONING WILL ALLOW FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR NEW BUSINESSES THAT WILL SUPPORT THAT WILL BE SUPPORTED BY THE NEW MULTIFAMILY.
THE DESIGNATION OF R20 ZONING DISTRICT AND CC COMMERCIAL FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
THIS IS INCONSISTENT AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S DESIRE TO SEE THE AREA NEAR THE PARKWAY COME TO LIFE.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ACRES OF R.M 20 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL ZONED LAND WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND APPROXIMATELY 920 ACRES OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONES LAND WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL FURTHER THE PURPOSES OF CHAPTER 185 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING, THEN I'LL OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC, ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION.
IT'S LIKE NO OFFENSE, RIGHT ON A SAUNDERS WITH PSC CONSULTANTS THREE 12 SOUTH HARBOR, CITY BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA THREE TWO NINE ZERO ONE.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I FEEL LIKE WE PROBABLY SPOKE ABOUT MOST OF THE ITEMS AND THE PREVIOUS PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE PUBLIC EYE, JUST ASK TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO IT.
PLEASE AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU. RIGHT, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC, BILL, BIG ITEM.
GILBERT BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT IT'S WAY TOO EARLY EVEN TO TELL, BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE DEDICATING TRYING TO TAKE EVEN SOME AGRICULTURAL LAND. BUT BY BILL BATON STANDARD, FROM WHERE I COME FROM, AGRICULTURE IS COMMERCIAL.
BUT THAT'S BUT IT'S NOT CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT IT IS STILL COMMERCIAL. WITHOUT IT, YOU WOULDN'T BE EATING STEAKS, BUT JUST KEEP THIS IN MIND.
I SEE THAT THEY'RE TRYING BY BATON STANDARD, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN MUCH.
THEY ARE TRYING TO DEDICATE SOME OF THIS LAND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES STAY COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS TOO EASY TO SEE IT DISAPPEAR.
AND I KNOW GETTING READY TO FACE YOU, NOT THIS MEETING, BUT PROBABLY NEXT MEETING OUT SOUTH, THEY'RE LOOKING AND TAKING AWAY 200 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEDICATED.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE IT THAT WAY AND GIVE ME MORE REVENUE, I'LL TAKE IT.
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GET YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.ALL RIGHT, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND EMOTION.
THE LEADER, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN MAYBE TO OUR NEWER BOARD MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY THAT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE USES UNDER, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL OR CAN BE RESTAURANTS, BANKS, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, THAT TYPE OF USAGE, EVEN, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE STORES AND SO ON.
SO THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A WELCOME ADDITION TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
HAVING SAID THAT, MOTION TO APPROVE A KPI'S 11, 2022.
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THAT ONE FLAGGED. AMENDMENT TO THE.PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BYLAWS.
ALEX, IF YOU'D IF YOU'D LIKE ME, I REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE PUT ON THE AGENDA AND THE REASON FOR IT IS THAT AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR START TIME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM SEVEN O'CLOCK TO SIX O'CLOCK BEGINNING ON APRIL 7TH.
I WANTED TO GIVE THE BOARD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO CHANGE OUR STARTS TIME, CHANGE OUR BYLAWS TO CHANGE OUR START TIME FROM SEVEN TO SIX NOW.
SOME ADVISORY BOARDS, OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS ALREADY MEET AT SIX, SOME MEET AT SIX 30, SOME STILL MEET AT SEVEN.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD MEMBERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT NOW.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN IN THE GAME.
I COULD CARE LESS. WE CAN START AT 6:00 OR WE CAN START AT SEVEN.
ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT I WANT EVERYONE TO BE SURE THAT YOU CAN BE HERE AT 6:00 FOR THE START OF THESE MEETINGS.
AND IN THAT CASE, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DON'T CHANGE THE BYLAWS.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THE MATTER.
THE I'M SORRY THIS TOURNEY, AND WE JUST SPEAK ABOUT THIS OR.
MY OPINION OR IT'S YOUR PLEASURE, PROCEDURALLY, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HEAR FROM EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN DETERMINE THE CONSENSUS.
IT WILL GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND IF IT DOES CHANGE, THEY'LL ACTUALLY IT'S WRITTEN INTO THE ACTUAL CODE OF ORDINANCES AND WE HAVE TO BE HEARD BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND APPROVED BY THEM AND CHANGE THE CODE.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT BEFORE BEFORE THAT, I HAVE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING, SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT.
REALLY, YOUR PLEASURE? SURE, ITEM YOU CAN IT DOESN'T HURT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU CAN HOOK UP TO THE PUBLIC IF THERE'S NOBODY HERE.
THIS BILL. OH MY GOD, THERE'S SO BATON, I'M SORRY.
LET THAT LET BILL BATON SPEAK, PLEASE.
DID WE NOT? I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING IT AT 6:30 AT ONE POINT.
FOR THE RECORD, MR. BATTEN DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK SIX.
OR JUST SPEAKING TO YOUR MIC SO THAT OUR REGULAR MEETING WAS ALREADY ONCE UPON A TIME, NO.
THE BOARD FOR THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY COMMENTS.
NO COMMENTS WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD OR FOR COMMENTS AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT. ME PERSONALLY, I LOOKED UP IN THIS IN THE COUNTIES IN THE CITIES OF BOVARD, A START BETWEEN THE BNZ BOARD START BETWEEN 5:30 AND 6:30.
MOST OF THEM WERE IN THAT RANGE.
AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR STAFF THAT HAVE TO STAY ALL DAY AND THEN WAIT FOR THESE MEETINGS, I I'M GOING TO BE VOTING TO COME IN EARLY.
I'LL ADD I PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I WAS HOPING FOR A NO CHANGE.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND WITH STAFF IT'S JUST THAT I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FIVE YEARS.
I LITERALLY DESIGNED MY LIFE AROUND THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH, AND SO I WAS HOPING PERSONALLY, AS I'M SPEAKING PERSONALLY TO TO HAVE IT THERE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE, SIX P.M.
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SO 6:30 WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.I'LL BE OPEN. I'LL BE HAPPY WITH.
BUT OF COURSE, I'M JUST ONE PERSON.
SO IF IF IT'S NOT SEVEN FOR ME, 6:30 WOULD BE MY COMPROMISE.
I MEAN, I'M OK EITHER WAY, SO WE CAN GO SIX, SIX, 30.
HONESTLY, I THOUGHT WE USED TO DO SIX 30 AND WE CHANGED IT TO SEVEN.
SO. SIX 30 WILL WORK FOR ME AS WELL, BE ABLE TO BE AT THE SIX O'CLOCK MEETING.
JOHN. SIX O'CLOCK WOULD BE FINE FOR ME.
MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD SAY THAT SIX O'CLOCK WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE AT THIS POINT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE UNIFORMITY WITH COUNCIL, SOMETHING I SEE IN THE COUNCIL ENDEAVOR, I'VE BEEN TO MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED, A SPECIAL MEETING, WHAT HAVE YOU THAT GETS CHANGED TO SIX FOLKS DON'T REALIZE LIKE, OH, THEY'RE SO REGIMENTED AS WE SEE, WE HAVE FOLKS THAT FOLLOW OUR PATTERN, RIGHT? SO THEY COME OUT TO THE P AND Z, THEN THEY COME OUT TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO I WOULD WANT THE CITIZENS TO GET USED TO A UNIFORM STRATEGY.
SO I WOULDN'T WANT IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, I THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE IT IN THE INTEREST OF LINING UP WITH COUNCIL.
OTHERWISE, I FEEL IT'S A MOOT POINT.
I'M GOOD WITH EITHER ONE, SIX OR SIX, THIRTY OR SEVEN.
MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THEIR BYLAWS TO BEGIN OUR MEETINGS AT SIX P.M..
OH, MADAM CHAIR, I KNOW THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT OH, SO THE ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY ADVERTISED WILL CONTINUE.
WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE AT WHAT DATE AND THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL FIRST, SO.
WHAT WAS THE FINAL VOTE, I'M SORRY.
IT'S ONE OF. BUT IT'S STILL SUBJECT TO COUNCILWOMAN.
THE EARLIEST WOULD BE POTENTIALLY MAY, BECAUSE IT'LL HAVE TO GET APPROVED, WHETHER OR NOT THEY APPROVE IT, AND THEN ALL ITEMS WILL HAVE TO BE ADVERTISED FOR THE CORRECT TIME.
JUST ONE QUICK THING, I WANTED TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE STEPHANIE KELLY, WHO IS NOW JOINED OUR PLANNING TEAM.
SHE COMES OVER TO US FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, SO SHE IS INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HER AS PART OF GROWTH.
EXACTLY AS IN YOUR VIOLENCE, THAT'S IN THE CODE, AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT TONIGHT.
REALLY, THE MEETING TIME IS IN THERE AND THE REMAINDER OF THE BAILOUT STUFF IS IS GENERALLY DETERMINED BY YOU.
ALSO LIKE MR., WEINBERG BROUGHT THIS ON TONIGHT.
IF THERE'S OTHER CHANGES YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, MAYBE TIME LIMITS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU ALL TO PUT ON FUTURE AGENDAS.
IF YOU GUYS EVER WANT TO TALK ABOUT PROCEDURES OR RULES AND CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OR EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS OR ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
FEEL FREE TO CALL ME. I HAVE MY CARDS AND MOST OF YOU HAVE THEM OR TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. BUT IF YOU DON'T, IT'S ON HERE.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT, I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS WHILE WE'RE HERE.
BOEREMA. I'M WITH THE APPLICANT AND.
THAT'S A DIFFICULT ANSWER WHEN YOU YOU CAN SET REASONABLE LIMITS, THE APPLICANT AND THE OPPOSITION, IF THEY'RE AN AGGRIEVED PARTY, GENERALLY YOU SHOULDN'T LIMIT THEM GENERAL COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC WHO AREN'T EXPERTS OR AGGRIEVED PARTIES.
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THERE WOULDN'T BE A POTENTIAL PROBLEM WITH THAT.IT'S NOT MR. WEINBERG. I WOULD GENERALLY SUGGEST IF YOU HAVE 30 PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE WE STARTED WITH TONIGHT ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, SEVENTY FIVE OR SO WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE AND POTENTIALLY ALL NIGHT AND COUNCIL EXPERIENCES THAT FREQUENTLY.
SO WHICH IS THEY DID SET, YOU KNOW, A TIME LIMIT FOR COMMENTS AND WHEN THEY BECOME REDUNDANT, IT CAN BE A PROBLEM.
IT'S BEST ADVISED THAT YOU SUGGEST STRONGLY THAT THEY APPOINT SOMEONE TO REPRESENT THEM AS A GROUP. BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS ARE IN YOUR BYLAWS.
BUT WITH QUASI JUDICIAL, YOU WOULDN'T GENERALLY LIMIT THE APPLICANT OR AN AGGRIEVED PARTY IF DOES THAT HELP? PRETTY MUCH, I MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WITH POTENTIAL RIGHTS TO SUE AREN'T LIMITED IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
BUT THE THING IS, WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THESE THINGS BEFORE YOU JUST GENERAL OPPOSITION TO SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT ISN'T COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND THAT'S YOUR STANDARD WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING QUASI JUDICIAL ITEMS. PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, NOT IN MY BACKYARD KIND OF THINGS JUST AREN'T THAT'S NOT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, UNFORTUNATELY.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOK FOR.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU GUYS EVER WANT TO CALL ME, I'M HERE ALL DAY AND TILL 7:00 ON WEDNESDAYS, AT LEAST IN THEN. BUT GENERALLY, YOU'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, FIVE THIRTY SIX, IF YOU NEED ME AND ALL DAY. SO DOES THAT HELP YOU, IF I MAY? FROM TIME TO TIME, WE HAVE IMPOSED A TIME LIMIT ON PUBLIC COMMENTS OF THREE MINUTES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WHAT CITY COUNCIL DOES.
YEAH, THEY DO IT TIME TO TIME.
WE HAVE DONE THAT LIKE IN AN INSTANCE WHERE THIS PLACE WAS FILLED WITH PEOPLE.
IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA. WE CAN IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT.
YOU JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE APPLICANT AND AGGRIEVED PARTIES FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. IT'S THE IT'S THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THEY HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE YOU, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO COMMENT ALL NIGHT LONG.
THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS, SO I WOULD JUST I WOULD JUST FURTHER ADD THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE WOULD ANNOUNCE THAT BEFORE THE START OF THE OF THE THE PERIOD.
ABSOLUTELY. AND IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I WAS DEFINITELY IT WOULD BE SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULD DISCUSS AND DECIDE IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT AND PUT IT IN THE BYLAWS BEFORE YOU MADE ANY DECISION LIKE THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT SAYS ANYTHING RIGHT NOW OTHER THAN.
I NEED TO DO WE ALL HAVE A CURRENT COPY OF THE BYLAWS.
WELL, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S GOT THAT.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
JUST GENERALLY, IT'S IT'S HARD TO SOMETIMES CONTROL THE CROWD AND KEEP FOCUSED AND WE JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT.
WE DON'T LET THEM TAKE, YOU KNOW, CONTROL OF THE ROOM, AND I'LL TRY TO HELP IT THAT BEST I CAN, AND I THINK WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD NIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE? THE ONLY THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO TALK.
UM, WELL, IT'S NOT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A QUESTION WE CAN HAVE A TRAINING.
WE CAN HAVE A TRAINING ONE. WELL, YEAH, THAT WAS THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
AND THE BOARD BE WITH THE BOARD, CITY STAFF AND THE ATTORNEY B, OK.
I MEAN, WE COULD WE RELATIVELY HAVE A NEW BOARD, WE HAVE NEW STAFF TO DO A WORKSHOP.
I'VE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WE CAN DO A WORKSHOP, WE CAN HAVE A TRAINING SESSION IF WE NEED TO BE, HOW GOOD IT MIGHT BE GOOD IF WE WAIT.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING NEW OR HOPEFULLY HIRING NEW STAFF, SO IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TILL WE'RE MORE FULLY STAFFED AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY'S FACES.
AND I THINK YOU ALL DO GO THROUGH A NEW BOARD MEMBER TRAINING WHEN YOU FIRST COME ON.
DID EVERYBODY HAVE THAT WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? YES, I DID.
YOU KNOW, IT SURE DOES. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YOU COULD PROBABLY DO, AND YOU'VE HEARD IT SO MANY TIMES.
YEAH. SO BUT, YOU KNOW, OPEN DOOR, IF YOU NEED ME, CALL ME, MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL.
SO I WAS I AGREE WITH YOU WITH DOING SOME WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY ONCE WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE IT'S ALL APPROVED, THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING, IT'S IN LINE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY WITHIN YOUR SCOPE.
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YES, I WOULDN'T SAY NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT THIS MOMENT, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A FULLY APPROVED PLAN.BUT OF COURSE, FOR THE NEW MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THEIR ROLE AS WELL, I REMEMBERED WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
THOSE LAWYERS, THEY TALK FOREVER, DON'T THEY? I KIND OF INTERRUPTED YOU ALL WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
I KNOW YOU WEREN'T DISCUSSING BUSINESS, BUT TO THE PUBLIC, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.
SO I KNOW YOU WERE JUST HELPING TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE'S TAKING OVER AS CHAIR PROCEDURALLY OR WHATNOT. BUT PLEASE DON'T TALK AMONG YOURSELVES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU, AND IT JUST LOOKED BAD TO THE PUBLIC.
YEAH. HE ONE MORE COMMON PLEAS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS, THE CITY COUNCIL, OUR CHANGE OF TIME, I THINK, RANDALL, THAT'S THE BEST IDEA THAT WE SHOULD STAY IN STEP WITH CITY COUNCIL.
THERE ARE SIX O'CLOCK OR SIX O'CLOCK.
EFFECTIVE PRESENTED THAT WAY TO THEM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.