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WHITE COLLAR ORDER ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETING OF MARCH 16, 2020 TO ITS 10:01
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P.M.. MY NAME IS JAMES BEEDLE.I'M THE PERSON THAT WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTIONS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT LINES.
GENERAL PROCEDURE IS, IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COME FORWARD AFTER BEING SWORN IN BY THE CLERK TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THE CITY WILL PRESENT THEIR RESPONSE, AND THEN THE APPLICANT MAY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
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SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD.OUR FIRST CASE TO BE HEARD IS CB 1894118 AT 507 SARAGOSSA AVENUE SOUTHWEST AND.
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WHO OFFICER TODAY IS MS..VALERIE'S HERE ON BEHALF OF LISA.
IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I MEAN, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
JOHN CAETANO 50707 GAS AVENUE.
WELL, BECAUSE YOU GUYS SENT ME SOME PAPERWORK.
I DIDN'T RECEIVE THE OTHER TWO LETTERS, SO ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOMES A PROBLEM.
THE TERMS THAT I GOT ALREADY BEEN FINED $75 A DAY.
I DIDN'T HAVE NO NOTICE BEFORE THAT LETTER.
SO THAT'S THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE PITCHERS THEY TOOK.
I MEAN, I NEVER RECEIVED SINCE THEN.
I NEVER RECEIVED NOTHING SAYING, IT'S ALL RIGHT TO COME DOWN HERE.
I HAD TO FIND OUT THROUGH A NEIGHBOR OF MINE.
SO I CAME DOWN HERE AND THAT'S WHEN THEY TOLD ME I HAD TO BE HERE TODAY.
DID YOU RESIDE AT SURROGACY OR THE 507 SURROGACY AVENUE SOUTHWEST IN 2018? 2018. SORRY.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? DID YOU LIVE AT THAT PROPERTY? YES. AN 18. YES.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2000 AND.
I'M SORRY. THAT YOUR NAME INTO THE MOUTH, PLEASE.
THEY PUT A PAPER ON THE DOOR ABOUT THE GRASSES NEEDS TO BE CAR AND WE CLEANED THAT UP AND THE TRACK WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY AND IT WAS STOPPED.
AND THEN WE CLEANED ALL THAT UP AND WE NEVER HEAR NOTHING ELSE UNTIL WE GOT THIS LETTER SAYING ABOUT THE WEEDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT HE'S BEEN VERY SICK, SO YOU COULDN'T DO IT.
SO WE HAD TO HIRE A LAWN MOWER COMPANY.
HE'S FIGHTING WITH CANCER, SO HE'S NOT ABLE TO DO IT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS LEAVE FOR A COUPLE.
MONTHS WITHOUT BEING TOGETHER.
BUT ME WORKING BY MYSELF WAS KIND OF STRUGGLED TO FIND SOMEBODY AND HE WAS NOT WORKING AND OUT OF WORK SINCE 2000.
YOU SAID THERE WAS A PAPER IN THE DOOR.
WHEN WAS THAT? I WONDER? A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHEN YOU GUYS USED TO PUT A STICKER ON THE DOOR LIKE A TAG SAYING THE GRASS NEEDED TO CUT. AND MY MACHINE BROKE THE WEEK BEFORE I WAS IN JACKSONVILLE.
GAS STATION. WE DON'T COME HOME TILL SATURDAY.
SO WHEN I CAME HOME, THE MACHINE BROKE.
I COULDN'T CUT IT. SO IT WAS A WEEK, TWO WEEKS BEFORE I CUT IT.
THEN THAT WASN'T ME. IT WAS MY NEIGHBOR WHO CUT IT.
THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY THING I REMEMBER GETTING ON THE GRASS WAS THAT THE REST WAS THE LETTER WE RECEIVED FROM YOU GUYS AND SOME PITCHES, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF SHE BROUGHT THE PITCHERS WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
THEY CLAIMED THE TRUCK WAS ABANDONED.
THE TRUCK WAS NOT ABANDONED BECAUSE OF ME DEALING WITH CANCER.
AND I CANNOT DRIVE BY MEDICAL.
THE TRUCK WAS SITTING THERE AND THEY NEEDED TO DRIVE.
SHE HAS TO DRIVE THEIR CAR THAT WAY.
IN CASE I GET DIZZY, I CAN GIVE HER THE CAR AND WE'VE GOT.
GOT. WHAT ARE WE GOING? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T GO BACK AND REVISIT WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD DID.
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ALL I CAN DO IS CONSIDER THE APPLICATION FOR THE REDUCTION AND THE FINE.I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION.
WHY I'M ASKING YOU WOULDN'T WHEN YOU RECEIVE THESE NOTICES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM. I'D JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT I HAVE THE GREEN CARD.
VALERIE, PRISONS CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR.
LOOKS LIKE. ROSA, YOU SIGNED FOR THIS GREEN CARD.
YOU RECOGNIZE THAT SIGNATURE? YES. SO THAT SHOWS THAT THE INITIAL STATEMENT WAS SENT TO YOUR ADDRESS AND SIGNED FOR.
AND THAT WAS BACK IN APRIL OF 2018.
AND THEN ALSO THE CODE OFFICER AT THE TIME WAS SABRINA PERKINS, AND SHE ALSO POSTED THE PROPERTY ON JULY 24, 2018.
I MEAN, ALL I CAN DO IS GO ON WHAT THEY HAVE, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. THE THING AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THIS LETTER ONLY.
WELL, I'M JUST. LET ME HOLD ON.
LET ME LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW THIS WORKS, BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE CITY FINDS OR SEES A VIOLATION.
THEY SEND OUT A NOTICE FOR YOU TO COMPLY.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY TELL YOU WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS, WHICH WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN THIS APRIL 2018 LETTER THAT MR. CAYETANO SIGNED FOR.
FOR WHATEVER REASON. THEY ALSO POSTED.
VIOLATION AND THE NOTICE OF HEARING, YES, THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD HEARING, WHATEVER DATE IT WAS IN 2018 ON THOSE.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THOSE NOTICES, YOU'RE SAYING SO.
SO THAT WAS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD TO TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT WHAT YOUR REASONS WHY YOU DIDN'T COMPLY BACK THEN.
I CAN'T DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS THERE.
ALL I CAN DO IS DEAL WITH WHAT YOUR REQUEST IS NOW THAT YOU WANT IT REDUCED.
OH, YEAH. I MEAN, IF I KNOW I HAVE TO PAY BECAUSE MY WHAT SHE SAYS I'M WILLING TO COMPLY THAT TIME. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH US SO.
WELL, NO, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A REDUCTION IN THE CODE.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE TODAY.
THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICATION WAS THAT YOU FOLLOW.
AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DEALING WITH THIS KIND OF SITUATION.
NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WHAT IT IS.
ALL RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION I HAVE THE CURRENT.
SO. BUT WHAT EXACTLY IS IT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOR ME TO DO AS FAR AS REDUCTIONS ARE CONCERNED? I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING. I'M ASKING WHAT DO YOU WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST FOR A REDUCTION TO WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY DO YOU WANT DEFINED REDUCE TO THOSE PEOPLE IN THEIR APPLICATIONS? PUT DOWN WHAT IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR ME TO DO AS FAR AS A FINE REDUCTION.
I MEAN, I STILL GOT TO ASK MY SISTER FOR IT.
AND IF I DON'T GET IT OFF MY SYSTEM, CAN I MAKE PAYMENTS ON IT? WELL, WE'LL GET TO THAT. OKAY.
I'M JUST. I'M JUST ASKING YOU WHAT YOU WHAT YOUR REQUEST IS FOR.
SO. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? TIME. I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN THE REDUCTION OF THIS LIEN WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED ARE 700 AND DOLLARS.
THE CITY IS ALSO SEEKING 3% OF THE TOTAL LIEN THAT'S OWED.
I HAVE THE FIGURE IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT.
I'VE. YOU AGREEABLE TO $33,510.
THEN I'LL ENTER AN ORDER TO THAT EFFECT.
NOW WE'LL GET TO THE PAYMENT PART OF IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT.
I PUT IN AN ORDER BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE CAN THAT THEY'LL PAY WITHIN 30 DAYS.
BUT I'VE NEVER DONE MORE THAN 120 DAYS.
SO. YOU KNOW, AND IT BASICALLY HOW IT WORKS IS IF YOU DON'T PAY IT WITHIN THE TIME THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ORDER, THE ORIGINAL FINE AMOUNT GETS REINSTATED OR REINSTATED.
SO SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU PAY IT WITHIN WHATEVER TIME PERIOD I PUT IN THE ORDER.
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SO WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS, IS WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PAY THE 36 TIME I GOT, SIR, I'M ASKING YOU, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PAY IT? WE CAN PAY BY MAY.WELL, THEN WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL PUT 90 DAYS IN THERE.
ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'LL GIVE YOU TILL JUNE.
AND LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU NEED TO COME BACK IN HERE.
YOU CAN'T IGNORE IT. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CITY AND ASK THEM TO COME BACK IN HERE IF YOU NEED ANOTHER EXTENSION.
BUT IF YOU THINK YOU CAN PUT IN IF YOU THINK YOU CAN PAY IT BY BY MAY, I'LL PUT IN I'LL PUT IN JUNE. ALL RIGHT.
YES, SIR. OR THREE MONTHS FROM TODAY? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHTY.
WELL, NOT TO ME. THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU. NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CV 2211021 AT 4371 DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
OUR NEXT CASE IS KB 2211021 AND 4371 DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
RACINE'S. GOOD DAY, MR. MAGISTRATE. I AM ALFRED GA FROM 47 ONE DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST BOMBAY.
ON THIS CASE HERE, I'M REALLY A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED.
I HAD MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT FOR A SHED, AND WE HAD A.
HIS NAME IS SCOTT STANFORD FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
HE MADE A COMMENT ON THE PERMIT.
AND AT THAT TIME, I TALKED TO HIM.
PROBABLY TWICE, TWO TIMES AT LEAST.
I TALKED TO HIM ON THE PHONE ABOUT THE SITUATION BECAUSE HE WAS INSISTING THAT HE IS NOT ACCEPTING THE THE BUILDING PLANS.
AND I ACTUALLY GOT THIS PLANNED FROM THE SHED COMPANY THAT TOLD ME MORE THAN ONCE THAT THEY HAD USED THIS PLAN AND THIS ENGINEERING PAPERWORK FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. INSIST THAT HE WILL NOT ACCEPT THE PAPERWORK BECAUSE HE DIDN'T SAW IT IN NUMBERS OR SOMETHING HE WAS LOOKING FOR OR THE SIGNATURE.
ANYWAY, IT WENT ON FOR ACTUALLY LIKE A MONTH AFTER THAT.
WHEN I WENT TO THE COURT COURT ENFORCEMENT BOARD, I HAD MENTIONED THE SITUATION THAT I HAD THE APPLICATION IN AND WE HAD SOME PROBLEM WITH THE PAPERWORK.
SO I'M ASKING FOR SOME TIME, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS, EVEN TEN DAYS.
AND I WENT TO THE COURT BOARD, I MEAN, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THE SAME DAY OF THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING.
AND I TALKED TO HIM, I WENT AND TALKED TO MR. SCOTT PERSONALLY, AND I SHOW HIM THE DOCUMENT.
AND HE SAID TO ME, ALVEY, I'M SORRY.
I GUESS I OVERLOOKED THIS NUMBER.
THIS IS A NUMBER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
AND I SAID, THIS IS THE SAME PAPERWORK I SUBMITTED A MONTH AGO.
AND WHEN I ACTUALLY GOT THE PERMIT A WEEK LATER AND THEN I GOT I GOT THE PAPERWORK IN THE
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MAIL THAT I HAD AN OUTSTANDING INVOICE FOR 8000 AND CHANGE.AND THAT WAS I SAID I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS I HAD IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE WENT TO THE COURT BOARD.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PAPERWORK IN THE PROCESS AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IS NOT ACCEPTING THE PAPER AND I AM JUST TRYING TO LOOK ABOUT HOW CAN I GO BY FOR HIM TO ACCEPT THE PAPERWORK? AND THE EXTENSION WAS DENIED.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF STRANGE TO ME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS, AND ONCE YOU HAVE A PERMIT IN PROCESS, WE NORMALLY EXTEND THE TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT OR DEPARTMENT HAS A LOT OF ISSUES AND THINGS DRAGS OUT MORE THAN IT SHOULD.
SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD SUBMITTED A LETTER.
I'M STATING WHAT HAPPENED AND SOME DATES ON IT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING TO GET THIS FINE REMOVED BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T DESERVE THAT.
YES, SIR. WELL, I UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION FOR THAT.
BUT THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT VIOLATIONS THAT ARE IN THIS IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WORLD ORDER. THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT DEFENSE DIRECTED OF IMPROPER MATERIALS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S DIFFERENT MATERIALS FOR DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE FENCE.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IS FOR RUBBISH AND GARBAGE ACCUMULATION ON THE PROPERTY.
I CAN SHOW THEM TO YOU IF YOU WANT.
YES, SIR. I PRETTY MUCH AWARE OF THAT.
BUT ALL THOSE WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
AND I WAS TOLD BY MISS VALERIE THAT THOSE WAS SATISFIED AND WAS REMOVED FROM THE ORDER.
SO THE ONLY THING WAS OUTSTANDING AT THE TIME WAS THE SHED PERMIT.
AND IT WAS IN THERE WAS IN PROCESS.
AND AS I SAID, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED TO KNOW THAT I DIDN'T EVEN GET THE EXTENSION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.
YES, SIR. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IS YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT AT LEAST I BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST TOLD ME WAS, IS THAT OTHER THAN THE SHED, WHILE THE OTHER TWO VIOLATIONS WERE TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD HEARING THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY. YES, SIR, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM I HAVE, IS THE BOARD FOUND THAT THOSE VIOLATIONS EXISTED ON THE DATE OF THE HEARING IN ADDITION TO THE SHED.
NO, SIR. WELL, LET ME EXPLAIN, PLEASE.
I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ON THIS, MR. BEETLE. VALERIE PARSONS, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR.
THIS CASE ORIGINALLY STARTED IN DECEMBER OF 2020 WHEN MR. AGUIRRE WAS FIRST CITED FOR THE NUMEROUS VIOLATIONS.
MR. JERRY, MYSELF, CITY MANAGER SUZANNE AND PATRICK MET WITH MR. JERRY TO DISCUSS WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO BRING HIS PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
AFTER ABOUT SIX MONTHS OF THE PROPERTY NOT BEING MAINTAINED, I WAS DIRECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STARTING A CASE WHICH WOULD BE THE.
IT STARTED IN JUNE. HE WENT TO THE JULY CODE BOARD, WHICH HE DID ASK FOR AN EXTENSION IN THE JULY, AND HE WAS GRANTED AN EXTENSION.
IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, HE WAS GRANTED OF A HEARING EXTENSION.
FROM THE JUNE HEARING TO THE JULY HEARING.
AFTER THE JULY COMPLIANCE DATE, HE WENT BACK FOR THE AUTHORIZATION TO IMPOSE HEARING, WHICH IS WHEN HE ASKED FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION AND WAS DENIED.
AT THE TIME EVERYTHING WAS IN COMPLIANCE EXCEPT FOR THE HERMIT ON THE FENCE, AND HE WAS GIVEN A COMPLIANCE DATE OF OCTOBER 12.
FROM THE PERMIT RECORDS MR. AGUIRRE APPLIED ON OCTOBER 20TH, WHICH WAS EIGHT DAYS PAST THE COMPLIANCE DATE.
HE WAS GIVEN AN OFFICIAL PERMIT AS OF NOVEMBER 16TH.
THAT'S WHEN THE CASE WAS CLOSED OUT IN COMPLIANCE.
WHY DID THE BOARD FIND HIM IN VIOLATION OF THE OTHER THE OTHER TWO VIOLATIONS.
THEY WEREN'T IN COMPLIANCE AT THE TIME OF THE BOARD.
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AT THE TIME YOU WERE IN COMPLIANCE? YES, AT THE TIME OF THE COMPLIANCE, CORRECT.WHEN HE WENT BACK TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR IMPOSE.
THERE'S NOTES ON THE SIDE THAT SAYS IT WAS COMPLIED AS A 11 FOR.
2021. SO HE WAS STILL CITED FOR THE FENCE, NOT HAVING A PERMIT.
AGREE WITH WHAT WAS JUST SAID OR NOT.
WELL, YEAH, IN THE SENSE WHERE WHEN I WENT TO THE LAST BOARD MEETING IN IN NOVEMBER, THAT WAS THE AUTHORIZATION TO IMPOSE HEARING.
THE ORDER TO COMPLAIN WAS WAS IN COMPLIANCE.
THE ONLY THING WAS OUTSTANDING IS THE PERMIT.
AND THE REASON FOR THE PERMIT NOT TO BE IN MY HAND IS BECAUSE THIS BUILDING OFFICIAL INSISTS THAT HE WILL NOT ACCEPT THE PAPERWORK.
AND I BROUGHT IT PERSONALLY TO HIM BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK ELECTRONICALLY. AND I BROUGHT THE PAPERWORK.
I HAVE THE PAPERWORK HERE WITH ME.
I BROUGHT IT TO HIM AND I SAID, MR. SCOTT, THIS IS THE PAPERWORK THE SHELL COMPANY SAY THEY USE FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? AND HE STOOD HERE IN FRONT OF ME AND STARTED LOOKING OVER IT.
AND HE SAID, OH, MR. GARY, I'M SORRY.
THIS IS THE NUMBER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
AND, YOU KNOW AND THE SECOND THING IS THE SECOND THING, SIR, IS, AS I SAID, I AM ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS.
AND IF ONCE SOMEBODY HAS AN APPLICATION IN, WE ALWAYS GIVE THEM TIME BECAUSE THE APPLICATION TAKES FOREVER THE PERMITTING.
AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT MY FAULT.
AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.
YES, SIR. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.
I CAN'T GO BACK AND READDRESS THAT.
I HAVE TO ACCEPT WHATEVER THE BOARD DID AND THEN DEAL WITH THE AFTERMATH, SO TO SPEAK.
I UNDERSTAND, SIR, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST EXPLAINING, YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO GET IN THIS PREDICAMENT IS, YOU KNOW, IS STAFF, YOU KNOW, FAULT.
AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO IDENTIFY THAT, TO SAY IT'S NOT TOTALLY MY FAULT.
WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION REGARDING THIS? THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REDUCTION OF THE LEAN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH ARE $750.
AND THE CITY IS ALSO ASKING 15% OF THE TOTAL LEAN TO BE PAID, WHICH IS $1,330.
SIR JERRY, WHEN DID YOU SUBMIT YOUR ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR THE SCHED PERMIT? WELL, I PROBABLY SUBMITTED A.
YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS OR SO BEFORE I ACTUALLY GOT THE PERMIT.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE IN FRONT OF ME.
WHAT I'M ASKING. YOU SAID THAT YOU SUBMITTED THE PERMIT.
BUT. GET MR. STAFFORD TO AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE NUMBERS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU DID WHEN LET'S LET'S ASK THE QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY IN RELATION TO.
YOU ALREADY SUBMITTED YOUR APPLICATION.
NO, SIR. IT WASN'T SUBMITTED IN JULY.
IT PROBABLY SUBMITTED SOMETIME.
IN OCTOBER, EARLY OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST FIGURING THAT IT WOULD BE A SIMPLE THING BECAUSE I BOUGHT THIS SHED, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SHED COMPANY.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT OR ENGINEERING AND.
WELL, LET ME LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I HEARD.
SO HE STARTED WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS IN 2020? IS THAT CORRECT? ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY? NO, SIR. NOT 2020.
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THEY STARTED WORKING. I GOT.THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING YOU.
SO YOU NEVER MET WITH THE CITY, AS WAS TESTIFIED TO? ABOUT DEALING WITH ANY OF YOUR CODE CODE ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, IF I MISUNDERSTAND THE CITY'S TEST.
WE WE MET IT IN DECEMBER 2020 WHEN IT WAS FIRST THE NOTICE WAS FIRST SENT AND THEN IN JANUARY. MARCH.
APRIL OR MAY, WE MET IN PERSON.
AND THEN JUNE. JUNE IS WHEN HE WENT TO THE CODE BOARD OF THE FOLLOWING.
SO, MR. JERRY, WERE YOU AWARE BACK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY THAT YOU HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE SHED? YEAH. YES, SIR.
AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IF YOU KNEW YOU HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE SHED, WHY IT TOOK YOU SIX, SEVEN MONTHS TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT.
WELL, THE REASON WHY I TAKE THAT LONG TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT IS BECAUSE I TRY TO KEEP I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DIRECTORS OF THE DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THIS THING COULD BE RESOLVED BEFORE IT GETS TO THE COURT BOARD.
I UNDERSTAND. BUT THE POINT IS, IS THEY AND IN JUNE, THAT'S WHEN I GOT THE VIOLATION.
IN JUNE, THAT'S WHEN THEY FOUND THAT'S WHEN THEY BROUGHT YOU BEFORE THE BOARD FOR THE VIOLATION IS IN JUNE.
WHY DID YOU KNEW THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE SHED AND YOU NEEDED TO GET A PERMIT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
BACK IN FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL, THAT TIME FRAME.
WHY DID YOU WAIT TILL OCTOBER TO FILE FOR A PERMIT? AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A DEAL WHERE I PURPOSELY DO THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN FRONT OF THE CODE BOARD.
BUT IF YOU THE PERMIT FILED FOR YOUR PERMIT BACK WHEN ALL THIS STARTED, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION.
RIGHT. AND THE OTHER ISSUE IS.
FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER FROM THE TESTIMONY.
AND IF IT'S NOT RIGHT, LET ME KNOW.
BUT IT APPEARS THAT YOU DIDN'T FILE FOR THE PERMIT UNTIL AFTER THE THE COMPLIANCE DATE WAS EXPIRED OR ALMOST HAD EXPIRED.
HE BASICALLY WAITED TILL THE LAST POSSIBLE MINUTE OR EVEN AFTER THE LAST POSSIBLE MINUTE TO FILE FOR THE PERMIT.
SO, YES, SIR, THAT'S NOT I'M NOT INCLINED I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GIVE THE CITY EVERYTHING THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR THE THE ADDITIONAL FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR POINT.
AS FAR AS THEIR EXTRA TIME THAT THEY DEALT WITH IN THIS THIS ISSUE.
PROBABLY. WHEN YOU GIVE THEM 10%, WHATEVER THAT COMES OUT TO.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM THE 15.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS BASED ON THE TESTIMONY FROM BOTH YOU AND THE CITY, THAT YOU COULD HAVE FILED A PERMIT ANY TIME LONG BEFORE OCTOBER.
AND I THINK YOU'RE SAYING I THINK YOUR ARGUMENT BEFORE THE BOARD WOULD HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE STRENGTH OR MERIT TO IT.
I'VE GOT THE APPLICATION PENDING AND WE'RE JUST HAVING SOME ISSUES TRYING TO GET THE PAPERWORK CLEARED UP.
BUT IT APPEARS YOU DIDN'T FILE IT UNTIL AFTER THE COMPLIANCE DATE, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU DIDN'T GET AN EXTENSION.
YOU MIGHT GUESS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S MY GUESS.
I THINK OF YOU HAVE DONE IT EARLIER THAT YOU WOULDN'T.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HAVE YOU DONE IT EARLIER? YOU WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION AT ALL.
I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT.
YES, SIR, YOU COULD BE RIGHT THERE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WITH MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT, IF I IF I WASN'T PERSISTENT AND GO THERE PERSONALLY TO TO MR. SCOTT, MAYBE I WOULDN'T GET THE PERMIT FOR THE FOLLOWING WEEK EITHER, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL. YOU DIDN'T DO IT UNTIL ALL THIS STUFF.
THE TIME UNTIL THE TIME WAS COMPLETELY EXPIRED IS WHEN YOU WENT IN AND GOT YOUR PERMIT OR FILE FOR YOUR PERMIT.
YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT LONG AGO BEFORE ALL THIS STUFF STARTED.
I JUST I GUESS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO ENTER AN.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S THE CASE.
I STILL FEEL DISAPPOINTED, BUT THAT'S FINE.
YOU KNOW, MR. MAGID, I MUST SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE ME DRAGGING MY FEET SO MUCH.
I GOT SEVEN VIOLATION NOTICES ONE DAY.
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I SAID, WHAT IS THE SITUATION WITH THIS? WHY? WHAT? SOMEBODY COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.SOMEBODY HAVE A BAD BLOOD FOR ME.
THAT'S FINE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I STILL DIDN'T GET NO ASSISTANCE.
AND THE FACT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, AN APPLICATION IS INSIDE THE SYSTEM.
I EXPLAINED THAT THE APPLICATION IS IN THE SYSTEM AND WE HAVE SOME PROBLEM WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT POINT IS YOU DON'T DO IT UNTIL AFTER THE COMPLIANCE DATE. THAT WAS IN THE ORDER.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. NO, SIR, NOT NECESSARILY.
BUT THAT'S FINE IF THAT'S THE DECISION YOU MAKE.
I THINK YOU HEARD WHEN I TALKED TO THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE.
CAN YOU PAY IT IN 30 DAYS OR NOT? NO, SIR. I PAID, RIGHT? NO, BUT THAT IS BESIDE THE POINT.
THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST DISAPPOINTING TO KNOW THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT I PUT IN THIS CITY FOR SO MANY YEARS.
AND ONE PERSON DID THIS TO ME.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WILL STAND BY AND LET IT.
RIGHT, YOU KNOW? AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW A PROBLEM PAYING IF I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I'M JUST HERE TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATION FOR REDUCTION IN THE FINE.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE LAW ABOUT THAT, TOO, THAT IF ANYBODY FILES A CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT, THEY CANNOT DO IT ANONYMOUSLY ANYMORE.
SO IF SOMEBODY FILES A CODE COMPLAINT AGAINST YOUR PROPERTY, FROM NOW ON, YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHO IT WAS. NO, I KNOW IT WAS JAMES RIDDER.
JAMES RIDDER, A CITIZEN THAT'S ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, TOO.
AND HE'S BEEN ON THE FOR 30 YEARS.
AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE MORE INFLUENCE THAN ME.
LISTEN, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER ANY OF THAT, AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE SYSTEM IS NOT RIGHT AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ON THE INSIDE.
IF YOU CAN STAY THERE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE ON THE NEXT ONE, TOO.
OKAY. YOU CONFIRMED WE'RE DOING $1,637.25 IN 30 DAYS.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY IS GOING TO BENEFIT TOO MUCH FROM FROM THAT.
THAT'S FINE. OUR MISS VALERIE, MAYBE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THING ON OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS.
IT'S 675 TONY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THE CODE OFFICER IS MISS LISA WHALEN.
VALERIE IS FILLING IN FOR HER TODAY.
THIS IS FOR THE REPAIR AGREEMENT EXTENSION THAT WAS GRANTED IN DECEMBER OF 2021.
MR. JERRY, GO AHEAD. YES, SIR.
BOMBAY. AND YOU'RE HERE FOR AN EXTENSION FOR THE REPAIR AGREEMENT.
IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND? YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
AND THAT THAT THAT'S PROPERTY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT OTHER THAN THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE.
SO YOU NEED TO TELL ME WHY YOU'RE WHY YOU'RE HERE.
WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT? BASICALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN THE PLACE UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REPORT THE STAFF HAVE.
MAYBE VALERIE WILL TELL YOU, BUT.
WE CLEAN UP THE PLACE TO THE EXTENT WHERE I THINK IT'S SATISFACTORY.
THE BUILDING NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF AN ARCHITECT TO DRAW A SITE PLAN AND TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT TO START WORKING ON THE BUILDING.
BUT IN MY EYES, EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD BE FINE.
WE ARE CLEANING UP THE OTHER PROPERTIES CONCERNED.
UM. I WOULDN'T MIND GETTING THE MAXIMUM ON THIS, MAYBE.
SIX MONTHS EXTENSION, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
AS I AM DOING THIS BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE GOOD MANAGEMENT LOSE MAYBE THREE STAFF DAY TO DAY. I HEAR ON THE STREET EVERYBODY COMPLAINING HOW LONG A PERMIT TAKES.
WHAT EXACTLY HAVE YOU DONE WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY SINCE THE DECEMBER HEARING? IF WE CLEAN ABOUT EIGHT, EIGHT DUMP TRUCKLOADS OF TRASH AND.
BURNED DEBRIS AND SCRAP METAL AND TIRES AND.
YOU KNOW, ALL THIS KIND OF THING.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PROPERTY IS PRETTY CLEAN.
BUT THE MAIN THING IS THE BUILDING NEED TO BE REPAIRED.
AND THE ARCHITECTS STILL JOIN THE PLAN.
THEY NEED TO GET THE ENGINEERING STAMP THAT FINISHES IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, IS KIND OF DRAGGING OUT MORE THAN I EXPECTED, BUT.
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I DON'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER THAT.DID YOU RETAIN THE ARCHITECT? THESE ARE TO TAKE MAYBE ONE OR TWO WEEKS AFTER I CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY.
OR MAYBE 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
MAYBE THE END OF DECEMBER WE CLOSE ON IN THE ORDER THAT I ENTERED PREVIOUSLY WAS DECEMBER 16TH OF LAST YEAR.
OC CLOSE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
YEAH. JUST ABOUT THE END OF DECEMBER SOMETIME THERE.
MAYBE TWO WEEKS LATER OR SOMETHING? YES, SIR.
ARCHITECT INDICATED TO YOU WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE PLANS COMPLETED.
HE SAID HE SENT ME A FEW THINGS ON THE EMAIL BASED ON WHAT HE DID AND IF I GOT QUESTION ON IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THREE WEEKS BEFORE YOU SPAWN AGAIN.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASK.
WHAT I ASK IS, IS HAS HE INDICATED TO YOU WHEN HE WILL HAVE THE PLANS DONE AND SEALED? NO, SIR, HE DIDN'T.
HE DIDN'T TOLD ME THAT. EXACTLY.
I EVEN TOLD HIM ABOUT THIS EARRING AND I SAID I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS PLAN AND THE APPLICATION IN BEFORE I COULD EVEN COME TO THIS MEETING.
AND I SPOKE TO HIM LAST NIGHT AND HE'S SAYING, WELL, HE DIDN'T FINISH AND THEN HE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE ENGINEER AND TO STAMP.
AND YOU NEED TO GET TO SOME TRUST, A TRUST COMPANY TO GIVE HIM SOME NUMBERS ON THE CROSSES AND THE WIND PRESSURE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO HE'S NOT GIVING YOU HAVE YOU SPECIFICALLY ASKED HIM WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE PLANS TO YOU? YES, SIR.
AND HE DIDN'T GIVE ME A EXACT DATE ON IT? NO, SIR. EVERYTHING FURTHER AT THIS POINT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE MOST TIME I CAN.
WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? VALERIE PARSONS, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR.
LISA WIGGLING IS THE OFFICER THAT'S HANDLING THIS CASE.
UPON A FOLLOW UP INSPECTION, SHE DID NOTE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TRASH HAS BEEN CLEANED UP, GRASS HAS BEEN CUT.
THERE WAS A PILE STILL OUT BY THE ROAD.
I BELIEVE THAT WHEN SHE SAW IT LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO, HAS THAT BEEN REMOVED? I MEAN, THAT WAS REMOVED A MONTH AGO.
OKAY. SO EVERYTHING'S BEEN REMOVED? YES, MA'AM. SO THE AMENDED REPAIR AGREEMENT IS ALREADY NOTED FOR 120 DAYS AND THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION.
HE'S ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE NEXT MONTH.
RIGHT. SO AN ADDITIONAL 120 DAYS.
ONE ADDITIONAL HUNDRED. YEAH. THE AMENDED.
THE IDEA HOW LONG IT TAKES THE CITY TO ISSUE A BUILDING PERMIT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE I UNFORTUNATELY DO KNOW.
EXPERIENCE THAT IS TAKING TIME.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WHEN YOU APPLY FOR THE WHATEVER THE PERMIT IS THAT YOU'RE DOING IT WITH LISA, BECAUSE THEN SHE CAN CALL OVER THERE AND EXPLAIN THE SITUATION AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THE PERMIT EXPEDITED.
BUT TO SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE, I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM FIVE MONTHS.
UM. YOU SHOULD DO WHAT SHE JUST SUGGESTED.
CALL LISA OR MISS WAYLAND AND TELL HER THAT YOU HAVE SUBMITTED THE PERMIT SO THAT MAYBE THEY CAN GET IT EXPEDITED TO GET THE WORK DONE OR GET THE PERMIT ISSUED SOONER.
SO I'LL ENTER AN ORDER EXTENDING IT FOR FIVE MORE MONTHS.
IT'LL BE SEPTEMBER. I THINK, SIR.
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CB 1988819.
THE CODE OFFICER IS VALID PRESENTS.
ALL RIGHT. HELLO? HELLO. MY NAME IS DARNELL DOLLARD WITH DADDY EQUITY PARTNERS.
I RESIDE AT 7572 NOW AVENUE AND PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
YOU CAN PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE 2520 CLINTON.
IT'S A PRETTY BIG EYESORE IN THE COMMUNITY.
HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE A ROOF ON IT.
WE PURCHASED MULTIPLE HOUSES IN THE AREA LIKE THAT.
KIND OF PUT THEM BACK TO NORMAL STANDARD.
AND THE SELLER DOESN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE LIENS AND ALL THE SITUATIONS WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE ON WHAT IT WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES TO, YOU KNOW, FIX IT.
BUT THE AMOUNT OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE.
IT'S MORE THAN THIS. THE THE HOUSE IS EVEN WORTH AND FRANKLY, NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO PURCHASE IT AND NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COMPLAIN AND IT WILL GET WORSE.
I WANT TO TAKE THAT PROPERTY AND BRING IT BACK TO COMPLIANCE AND PUT IT IN THE COMMUNITY AS A GOOD STANDING HOUSE.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, I GUESS THE ABILITY FOR, AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I'M JUST LEARNING ALL THE TERMINOLOGY, THE WHAT WAS IT, THE WORK.
THE REPAIR AGREEMENT, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THE LIENS WOULD WORK BECAUSE I WOULD NEED TO CLOSE ON THIS PROPERTY. WE HAVE ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO CLOSE AND THE THE FINES ARE ABOUT 55,000 AND ORLANDO WOULD NEVER OBVIOUSLY PAY THOSE THOSE LIENS.
SO I GUESS I'M ASKING FOR A REDUCTION TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY AND THE WORK AGREEMENT. I MEAN, FROM WHAT I SEE, THE PROPERTY REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP AND TO TO LOOK PRESENTABLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHILE THE PERMITS BEING APPLIED FOR.
CORRECT. I THOUGHT I ONLY SAW THE ONE THAT WAS LIKE 55.
AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN SITTING LIKE THAT FOR A WHILE.
VIOLATION. IT'S PROBABLY THE SIXTH ONE WE BOUGHT LIKE THAT IN PALM BAY.
I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE EXPERIENCED WITH TAKING THAT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO STANDARD.
I WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO BE AT A CLOSE.
SO I DON'T. THE LENDER WON'T OBVIOUSLY TAKE THOSE FORM OF LEAN, SO I'M WILLING TO HEAR OUT WHATEVER POSSIBLE AGREEMENT THE CITY WOULD WORK OUT WITH ME SO THAT I CAN ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY. SO THESE.
MALLORY PEZZINI, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR.
JUST A NOTE, MR. BEETLE, THAT THERE WAS A NUISANCE LIEN ON THIS PROPERTY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID BY MR. DARNELL. AND THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO REDUCING THE CASES TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.
EACH CASE. UNLESS YOU CHOOSE OTHERWISE.
4500. WELL, I TOOK A CHANCE ON A NUISANCE, LEON.
I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE A CHANCE ON.
I CAN KIND OF DISCUSS WITH MY PARTNER AND SEE IF IT IF IT ALL THIS LINE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING 4500 WOULD BE THE TOTAL AMOUNT? THAT'S IT. THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST IS FOR EACH CASE, AND THERE ARE SIX SEPARATE CASES, SIX SEPARATE VIOLATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY.
SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S AN ORDER THAT'S ALMOST ALWAYS ENTERED.
NOT ALWAYS, BUT ALMOST ALWAYS OR.
754 THEIR GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR WHEN THEY INITIATE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WHENEVER THEY GO. WELL, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD ASK IS HALF OF THAT, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE EVEN BEFORE I CLOSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ACCESS TO CLEAN THIS UP, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE $5,000 ALONE JUST TO THE DEBRIS.
AND I'M NOT I HATE TO BUY A PROPERTY AND HAVE NEIGHBORS JUMP IN BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A MESS. NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP GOING.
THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BOTHER THE CITY TO MAKE THIS THING RIGHT.
SO IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY OF THAT NUMBER AND HALF, I AM ALL ABOARD.
YOU'VE SEEN THE REPAIR AGREEMENT? I ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE REPAIR AGREEMENT.
ISH. THE WAY THIS WORKS WHEN THE CITY HAS A REPAIR AGREEMENT AS PART OF THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH BOTH PAYING WHATEVER THE FINES REDUCTION IS AND PERFORM.
THE AGREEMENT SOON INTO ITS TERMS OR THE FINES ARE ALL REINSTATED.
OKAY. SO I GUESS IN THAT CASE, I'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SEE THAT WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY REQUIRING FOR A COMPLIANCE.
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SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.SO WITH THE ROOF REPAIR, IT'S SO IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE A ROOF AT ALL.
SO THE PROPERTY IS JUST CONCRETE WALLS.
THERE IS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF DEBRIS EVERYWHERE.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO CLEAN THAT UP.
BUT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AN ACTUAL ROOF BECAUSE I KNOW FROM THE PREVIOUS CLIENT THAT WAS HERE GOT OUR PLAYER FOR A COMPLETE REHAB PERMIT.
IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE LIKE A NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS TO BASICALLY BRING THE PROPERTY TO STANDARD LIKE ALL THE REST OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, PALM BAY.
LEAVE THE FOUR WALLS STANDING CLEAN ENTIRE PROPERTY AND SIT IT AS IF IT'S A NEW CONSTRUCTION. I MEAN, THE PERMITTING ALONE IN PALM BAY GETTING EVERYTHING ALONE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE 90 DAYS, IF NOT MORE, JUST APPLYING FOR THE PERMIT, GETTING THE PLANS.
I MEAN, THE ARCHITECT ARCHITECT RIGHT NOW WILL PUT YOU BACK TWO MONTHS.
SO IT IS QUITE THE PROJECT I AM WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I JUST WANTED SOME.
WITH THAT NOTED ON THE REPAIR AGREEMENT, I AM WILLING TO CLEAN IT UP AND BRING IT COMPLIANCE TO ASKING AND WAIT FOR THAT PERMIT AND STAY IN COMPLETE COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY AS I APPLY, WHEN I APPLY AND SUCH.
BUT IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO GET AN ACTUAL ROOF ON THERE THIS SECOND.
IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE A NEW CONSTRUCTION, BE PART OF THE REPAIR.
OKAY. BUT I SEE THAT IT SAYS THE 120 DAYS TO GET A ROOF AND THE DRAINAGE, I WOULD JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE DRAINAGE, WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS.
IT REFERS TO ROOF AND DRAINAGE.
OH, OKAY. SO JUST THE WHOLE IT'S RELATES TO HOW THE ROOF IS FOR DRAINAGE.
THE CITY HAS NO PROBLEM PUTTING IN A LITTLE CLAUSE ABOUT PUTTING THE HOUSE BACK TO THE STATE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
YOU HAVE TIME TO WORK WITH IT.
UNDERSTANDING, I GUESS, AS TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
SO WHAT MR. DARNELL HAS PROPOSED TO US IS RIGHT NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES, THIS HOUSE UNDER THE PREVIOUS OWNER, ESQUIRE, STARTED TO PUT A ROOF UP AND THEN THE ROOF FELL IN. SO HE'S GOING TO CLEAN IT ALL UP BACK TO JUST THE STUCCO OR THE BLOCK CONCRETE BLOCK STRUCTURE.
AND THEN FROM THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE HOUSE.
WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS AND BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IS THE REPAIR AGREEMENT TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY UP AND GET RID OF ALL THE TRASH AND THE COLLAPSED ROOF.
OR IS IT FOR THE OR THE APPLICANT TO.
WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY UP.
BUT I'M GOING TO ADD A CLAUSE IN THERE BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO RECONSTRUCT THE HOUSE.
BUT WE NEED TO GIVE HIM TIME BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FOUR MONTHS IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH.
I KNOW. THAT'S WHY I'M. WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE. POSING TO GET EVERYTHING CLEANED UP.
AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE TIMING WAS FOR THAT.
THESE ARE THE TRYING TO GET THE HOUSE BILL.
YEAH. AS SOON AS AS SOON AS WE CLOSE, I'D LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY JUST SPEARHEAD TO GET VERY CLOSE TO JUST CLEANING EVERYTHING UP WITHIN THE THE WEEK OR TWO THAT IT IS CLOSED.
BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DEAL WITH IS THE SCOPE OF THE REPAIR AGREEMENT.
WELL, SO BASICALLY WHAT THE WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE IN THE REPAIR AGREEMENT, HE NEEDS TO CLEAN UP THE TRASH AND DEBRIS THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE THIS PAST WEEK.
IS EVERYTHING THAT FELL IN THE TRUSSES AT ALL HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
THEY HAVE THE FOR THE MOST PART, ALL THE TRUST HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
THERE IS DEBRIS LIKE WOOD AND HIGH GRASS AND STUFF, BASICALLY AN ABANDONED PROPERTY.
SO BASICALLY WE WOULD FIX THE REPAIR AGREEMENT TO STATE THAT HE HAS 90 DAYS TO DO THE
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CLEANING AND THEN HOWEVER LONG WE GO OUT AS FAR AS THE RECONSTRUCTION.BUT YOU AND HE ARE GOING TO WORK OUT WHATEVER THAT SECOND DATE IS.
NOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT INCLINED TO WAIVE HALF OF WHAT'S DUE FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CAUSE.
WHAT I AM, WHAT I AM WILLING TO DO, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO AGREE TO THAT, IS FOR PURPOSES OF YOU DO THE CLOSING.
BUT AT THE TIME THAT YOU APPLY FOR YOUR PERMIT.
THE OTHER 25 WOULD KICK IN OR I WOULD CONSIDER DOING IT AT THE TIME WHENEVER BY THE END OF THE FIRST INITIAL 100 OR 90 DAYS FOR THE CLEANUP.
MM HMM. SO YOU'RE PROPOSING SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT ALL AT ONE TIME.
ALL RIGHT. WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.
EXCUSE ME. THEN THE OTHER 20 TO 50.
AT THE TIME THAT 90 DAY PERIOD, THE INITIAL 90 DAYS EXPIRED ON OR BEFORE THAT DATE.
MM HMM. I DID HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
IT ACTUALLY JUST IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY RANDOM.
IT DOESN'T PERTAIN TO THIS PROPERTY.
THERE IS THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, 1172 ROSA.
IT'S BEEN SITTING FOR A LONG TIME AND I KNOW NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH OWNERS SINCE 2018.
NO WAY. I'VE BEEN WATCHING THAT PROPERTY FOR LIKE TWO YEARS BECAUSE I SAW IT GO INTO THE TAX DEED AND COME OFF AND GO BACK ON.
WELL, THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.
I APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'LL AMEND THE REPAIR AGREEMENT AS WELL AND SHE'LL GET IT.
AND I SIGN THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST.
THE MARCH 16, 2022 MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 1:54 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.