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WE HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE.
[CALL TO ORDER]
WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO MAKE A CALL.THIS MEETING, THE ORDER REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, 2022, DASH ZERO SIX.
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY NEWLY ELECTED COUNCILMAN PETE FILIBERTO.
AND IS FATHER D WALLINGTON BRIGHT IN THE AUDIENCE? FATHER RD WILLINGTON BRIGHT.
OKAY. THEN OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR KEN DELGADO OF THE HOUSE CHURCH.
FATHER. WE JOIN OUR HEARTS TODAY.
WE JOIN OUR HEARTS BECAUSE SOMEONE WHO IS PART OF THIS CITY, THE RODGER FAMILIES DEPUTY ROGERS, IS NOW WITH YOU.
BUT YOU DID SEND THE HOLY SPIRIT TO COME AND TO BRING COMFORT WITH THE WORDS THAT THERE IS A TIME AFTER WE ALL MEET BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
THOSE WHO ARE REMAIN HERE HAVE A TIME OF HURT.
WE JUST ASK THAT YOU COMFORT THEM TO STRENGTHEN THEM, THAT FRIENDS AND FAMILY AROUND THEM WOULD SUPPORT THEM.
FATHER. LIKEWISE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU EVEN IN THIS MEETING.
WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT YOU HAVE SET BEFORE US AS PEOPLE WHO ARE LEADING THE CHARGE FOR THE GREATEST CITY BECAUSE YOU'RE IN IT.
AND WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE THEM THE WISDOM THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS, THE FORESIGHT TO KNOW WHAT.
THEIR DECISIONS WILL HAVE FOR THE FUTURE.
WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GUIDE THEM, THAT THEY WOULD HEAR YOUR VOICE AND YIELD TO YOUR VOICE WHEN NEEDED, AND THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THIS EVENING WITH YOUR GRACE IN THE POWER OF JESUS NAME.
AMEN. IT'S AN AMERICAN COMEDY. IT JUST TAKES PLACE IN THIS WORLD FOR ALL WHO ROCK.
LISTEN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WOULD YOU PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A SECOND? AS PASTOR KEN JUST PRAYED.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR RETIRED POLICE CHIEF PALM BAY POLICE CHIEF JIM ROGERS.
MEDINA RESIDENT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE VACANCIES ON THE AUDITOR SELECTION COMMITTEE.
TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.
TWO VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT LOW INCOME AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL POSITIONS.
ONE VACANCY ON THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE.
TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ADULT MEMBER 30 YEARS IN OLDER POSITION. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 32195 230 414.
MADAM SHERMAN? YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[AGENDA REVISIONS]
THE ONLY REVISION I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RELATING TO CYPRESS BAY WEST HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS.MADAM SMITH, ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
SO WE'RE UP TO THE PART WHERE WE WOULD BE HAVING EITHER PRESENTATIONS OR A PROCLAMATION.
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AND SO SINCE WE HAVE NONE, EARLIER TODAY, I WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE A PROCLAMATION TO RETIRED POLICE CHIEF WILL TOMORROW TO HIS ACTUAL LAST DAY.AND AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON ON THE DEDICATED SERVICE THAT POLICE CHIEF MOYA RENDERED OUR GREAT CITY FOR 31 YEARS.
YOU SEE, TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS 61 YEARS OLD.
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AND POLICE CHIEF MOYA SERVED TIRELESSLY DEDICATED TO PROTECTING OUR FAMILIES FOR 31 OF THOSE YEARS.AND I FEEL IT IS OUR RIGHT AND OUR TIME AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO NOT ONLY CONGRATULATE THEM, BUT TO COMMEND THE SACRIFICE THAT HE LAID FOR US HERE.
YOU SEE, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS THAT HE PLACED ON THIS CITY IS PART OF HIS LEGACY.
HE NOT ONLY WAS ONE OF THE HAN FEW LATIN AMERICAN POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS HISTORY CITY OR THIS CITY'S HISTORY, HE ALSO BECAME THE VERY FIRST LATIN AMERICAN POLICE CHIEF.
AND FOR THAT, I WILL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL.
THE LEADERSHIP OF POLICE CHIEF NELSON MOYA.
HE LEAVES US AND HE STARTS A NEW CAREER IN THE CITY THAT WE BOTH CAME FROM, NEW YORK CITY. BUT NOW HE'S GOING TO SUFFOLK COUNTY AND HE'S GOING TO LEAD OTHERS IN THAT CITY.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE THIS COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO ALSO CONGRATULATE HIM BEFORE HE LEAVES AND PERHAPS HAVE HIM SAY A FEW DEPARTING WORDS.
I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN PETE FILIBERTO.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHIEF MOY, I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED ON WAS BODY CAMS FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
SO YOU'RE ALWAYS FORWARD THINKING AND YOU'VE DONE AGAIN, GREAT WORK FOR OUR FOR OUR CITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR BASICALLY, IT WAS MY AGE AND YOUR AND YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. AGAIN, CHIEF.
WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS IN THE LAST FEW, FEW DAYS.
AS I REMEMBER MEETING YOU AS DEPUTY CHIEF RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN I'VE SEEN THE LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP WHEN IT WAS TIME TO TRANSITION.
AND I BELIEVE I WAS ONE OF THE LOUD VOICES ADVOCATING THAT YOU SHOULD AND DESERVING OF BEING OUR NEXT CHIEF.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, SIR, AGAIN, WE WE ARE FOREVER THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY AND YOUR SERVICE.
GOOD LUCK. MAY GOD BLESS YOU, YOUR NEXT ENDEAVOR.
BY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ANOTHER COLLEAGUE.
I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS TO RETIRE AFTER SPENDING A LOT OF YEARS IN THE AGENCY AND.
DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU ENJOY DOING.
SO I KIND OF GET HOW YOU'RE FEELING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I FELT THAT BACK IN 2013.
CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ARE WELL DONE.
YOU LEFT THE APARTMENT BETTER.
ED, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WALKING OUT THE DOOR, YOU LEFT THIS DEPARTMENT.
BETTER LOOK AT THE LAST TWO YEARS OF WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
STOOD UP IN FRONT OF THIS DIOCESE, AND YOU EXPLAIN TO US HOW IMPORTANT RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION ARE.
YOU EXPLAIN TO US HOW IMPORTANT TO RAISE THE PAY OF POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WAS ONE OVER BEFORE YOU EVEN CAME UP TO THE DIAS.
BUT YOU WONDER THIS DAY IS OVER WITH THE WORDS THAT YOU SPOKE AND IT WAS, AND YOU SHOWED YOUR COLLEAGUES AND THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT FOLLOW YOU AND HOW MUCH YOU CARED ABOUT THEM AND THEIR CAREER AND THEIR FUTURE AND HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT THE CITY AND PROTECTING US.
THE JOB OF WEARING THAT UNIFORM.
IT'S NOT A CAREER. IT'S IT'S A LIFESTYLE THAT GETS IN YOUR BLOOD.
IT'S DIFFERENT. IT'S DIFFERENT FROM OUR EXPERIENCE, THE MILITARY SERVICE AND OUR EXPERIENCE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICE.
HOLY ANIMAL WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GET THAT BLUE RUNNING THROUGH YOUR VEINS.
IT'S ABOUT SERVICE. AND IT'S ABOUT HELPING OTHERS.
AND YOU CARRY THAT TO YOUR GRAVE.
WE'LL MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT.
YOU ALWAYS GOING TO REMEMBER THE COLLEAGUES THAT YOU WORKED WITH? AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR MIND.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND I
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APPRECIATE EVERYTHING AND I WISH YOU THE BEST GOING BACK TO MY HOME CITY.AND I THINK YOU'RE GOT TO MAKE THAT DEPARTMENT JUST AS GREAT THAT YOU MAKE THE THIS DEPARTMENT PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
CHIEF, WE'VE SPOKEN SEVERAL TIMES AS WELL.
WE SPOKE EARLIER TODAY AT THE FAREWELL CEREMONY.
I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN IN A TIME WHERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE SEEN, I'LL CALL IT AN ASSAULT ON OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
YOU'VE CONTINUED TO BACK THE COMMUNITY.
AND I'M PROUD THAT ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY, THEY'VE CONTINUED TO BACK YOU ALL BACK AS WELL AS THIS COUNCIL AS WELL.
AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE ON LONG AFTER.
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET THINGS STRAIGHT UP IN NEW YORK.
I'M HOPING YOU CAN. MAN, I'M HOPING YOU CAN SHOW THEM HOW WE DO IT DOWN HERE IN FLORIDA, DOWN HERE IN THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, SIR, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS.
TAKE CARE OF THAT FAMILY. TAKE CARE OF THAT LITTLE GIRL AND YOUR WIFE.
HOLD THEM CLOSE. LOVE THEM UNCONDITIONALLY.
SO NOTHING BUT LOVE FROM HERE.
DEPUTY MAYOR. POLICE CHIEF MOYER, WOULD YOU PLEASE SAY A FEW PARTING WORDS? GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I SEE SOME RED SHIRTS, SO I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD MEETING. I WILL NOT TAKE MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
TRUST ME. THIS IS THE THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S TIME.
FIRST, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO HAVE MET AND KNOWN YOUR FATHER.
SO, YES, I DO REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE BIG.
IS PROUD TO SEE YOU. NOW SIT IN OUR DIAS.
A LOT TO BE SAID, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
THERE'S SO MANY FOLKS I CAN THANK.
BUT LET ME START BY BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO THESE POSITIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE LED WELL. AND CERTAINLY THE MAN THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT LED ME WELL.
AND THAT WAS OUR FRIEND JIM ROGERS.
AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ABSOLUTELY ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPACT HE HAD IN THIS CITY, IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND ALL OF US AND CERTAINLY OUR ORGANIZATION. SO HE DESERVES.
A LOT MORE THAN I AT THIS POINT AND CERTAINLY HIS FAMILY.
AND HE WILL BE MISSED, I ASSURE YOU.
OBVIOUSLY I HAVE TO THANK OUR CITY COUNCIL OR MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.
OUR CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGER SUSAN SHERMAN, WHO'S BEEN JUST AN OUTSTANDING SERVANT LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IS MAKING THINGS HAPPEN.
WHILE WORKING WITH GREAT DIRECTORS AND OTHER CITY STAFF THAT ARE FOR ONCE IN MY 31 YEARS.
WORKING THROUGH SYNERGY, AND THAT SYNERGY IS EVIDENT IN THE RESULTS THAT THEY PRODUCE EVERY DAY IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO I WANT TO THANK THEM AND ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AS WELL.
TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR AGENCY.
WHAT AN HONOR IT HAS BEEN TO WORK ALONGSIDE OF THEM.
AND I LEAD THIS AGENCY WITH MY HEAD HELD HIGH AND VERY PROUD OF THE THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED. AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
I HOPE THAT I HAVE DONE MY PART SO THAT THE NEXT GROUP CAN THEN DO IT BETTER.
AND THAT'S WHAT KEEPS AN ORGANIZATION HEALTHY.
SO I THANK ALL OF OUR FOLKS WHO ARE WATCHING, WHO MAY WATCH AND THOSE THAT ARE HERE.
SOME OF OUR COMMAND STAFF MEMBERS ARE HERE, AND THESE ARE JUST OUTSTANDING SERVANTS THAT UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF POLICING AND CERTAINLY THE PURPOSE WITH POLICING WITH A COMMUNITY, NOT POLICING A COMMUNITY.
AND THAT WILL LAST FOR GENERATIONS TO COME, I ASSURE YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MY ABSOLUTE HONOR TO SERVE YOU.
I. GO TO ANOTHER PLACE THAT I'VE BEEN CALLED TO SERVE.
AND I WILL DO SO WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ANXIETY, BUT WITH A GREAT DEAL OF.
ME AND MY FAMILY THANK THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
IT IS A CITY THAT HAS GIVEN ME AND MY FAMILY JUST TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY OVER MANY, MANY YEARS. SO THIS IS MY HOME AND IT WILL ALWAYS HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART.
BUT WE TURN THE PAGE ON OUR NEXT CHAPTER AND WE MOVE ON.
SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER AS A COMMUNITY.
STAY TOGETHER AS MUCH AS WE CAN, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE DISAGREE, BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE US A TOP NOTCH COMMUNITY.
AS THE MAYOR SAYS, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
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THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU.GOD BLESS YOU. HOLD ON A SECOND, CHIEF.
CHIEF. BOY, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOU ARE THE PRIDE OF PALM BAY, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO NEW YORK CITY BACK TO OUR OLD HOMETOWN.
BUT YOU'VE BEEN INDOCTRINATED HERE BY THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
AND SO THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU SO THAT YOU SHOWED OUR HASHTAG PALM BAY PRIDE HERE.
YES, SIR. I'M GIVING YOU RACE.
CHIEF, I HAD A SHIRT MADE FOR YOU.
AND ON THAT SHIRT, IT HAS THE PALM BAY CITY LOGO.
THE CITY DIDN'T PURCHASE THIS, BY THE WAY.
SEE THAT? AND THEN ON THE REAR, THE 31 YEARS OF SERVICE HAS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE JOGGING OUT IN NEW YORK, YOU MAKE SURE YOU SHOW THOSE PEOPLE THE GREATEST FOOD ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU ALL.
CONGRATULATIONS, CHIEF DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
PUBLIC COMMENTS. NORMAN VIVIANO FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
MAYOR COUNCIL.I'M THE OWNER OF 1480 GAINER DRIVE.
LAST MEETING, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF MY PROPERTY AT THAT MEETING.
AND WHERE I'M GOING TO START IS THE EMAILS BECAUSE THERE WAS NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS PRIOR TO. THE CITY AND I AGREED ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IT.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK NOTHING FROM PUBLIC RECORD.
THEY AGREED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A DRIVEWAY IN.
THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A CULVERT IN.
THEY WERE GOING TO PAY ME FOR MY PORTION OF THE LAND.
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS BEING DONE.
I WAS THE ONE THAT INSTIGATED THE CULVERT.
NO DITCH, NO WATER MAIN, NO CULVERT NECESSARY.
I SAID, WELL, I REALLY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TEARING UP MY PROPERTY.
I HAVE BUT ONE DRIVE THAT COMES INTO THIS PROPERTY, 125 FEET OF WOODS.
WHEN YOU RIP OUT MY DRIVEWAY, I HAVE NO PLACE TO PARK MY CARS OUTSIDE.
AND IT'S EVEN WORSE NOW WITH THE ROAD BEING PAVED.
THIS HAS BECOME A THOROUGH WAY THROUGH THERE AND IT'S EVEN IN THE EMAILS I TALK ABOUT IT WAY PRIOR TO ALL OF THIS IN THE PAVEMENT GOING ON.
THERE WAS THREE PEOPLE I DEALT WITH, LIKE MCKINNON, JOE HALE AND FRANK.
WANNABE, I BELIEVE, IS HIS NAME.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHETHER THEY WORK THERE ANYMORE.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH MY DRIVEWAY? WILL YOU GIVE ME A DRIVEWAY DETAIL? NO. IT'S GOING TO BE PAVED LIKE THE ROAD.
SO THERE'S NO DETAILS FOR THE DRIVEWAY.
THERE'S NO DETAILS FOR THE ROAD.
APPARENTLY, I WAS GIVEN NOTHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ASPHALT OVER THE TOP OF DIRT.
I WAS ASKED, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO THE TREES? WELL AT SOME POINT.
ARE YOU GOING TO PROTECT THE TREES THAT REMAIN ON MY PROPERTY? WILL YOU HAVE AN ARBORIST COME AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DESTROY MY TREES? NO, WE WILL NOT.
AND THEN AND ONE OF MY LAST EMAILS TO THEM.
AS STATED AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE NO CURRENT PLANS FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY AND THE ROAD HAS BEEN DELIBERATELY LOCATED FURTHER TO THE EAST.
IT APPEARS TO ME TO GIVE YOU THE FDOT CLEARANCE.
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I SEE NO COMPELLING REASON FOR ME TO SELL THE 30 FOOT TO THE CITY.ONCE THE CITY COMES UP WITH A FINAL PLANS AND ALL ASSOCIATED WORK IN A TIMELINE OF ACTIVITIES THAT IS AGREED UPON, WE CAN DISCUSS SELLING AT THAT TIME.
RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS ASKING ME TO SELL THEM SOMETHING WITH NO PLANS, NO TIMELINE THAT AFFECTS ACCESS TO MY PROPERTY AND THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY.
RIGHT. SIR, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF THERE WITH THE THREE MINUTE TIMEFRAME.
NOW, I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING FORWARD, SIR, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WAS PART OF A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD.
WELL, IF WE COULD HAVE, MADAM SHERMAN, PERHAPS YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASSIGN AND SEE HOW WE CAN OPEN UP THAT DIALOG.
BECAUSE IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS BY BY OUR RESIDENT.
AND PERHAPS WE COULD JUST OPEN UP A DIALOG HERE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE FROM WHAT I REMEMBER.
SO I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO MR. VIGIANO. JOAN, CAN YOU GIVE HIM YOUR CARD AND THEN I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, SIR? NO, IT'S IT'S ON OUR CARD.
I CAN'T BELIEVE MY CITY IS TALKING EMINENT DOMAIN.
BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT STICE.
SO BACK IN 586, OCEAN SPRAY, STREETS SOUTHWEST, EXCUSE ME, AS EVIDENCED BY THE WAY THAT DIAS HAS CHANGED TONIGHT ON MARCH EIGHT, THERE WAS AN EVOLUTION THAT OCCURRED WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT.
THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS DESERVED.
AND EVIDENTLY THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS GOT.
HOWEVER, BATON BEING THE WAY HE IS, WHEN I PULLED INTO THE PARKING LOT TO CAST MY VOTE, TO FILL IN MY BALLOT TO VOTE.
TWO INDIVIDUALS APPROACHED ME BECAUSE I PULLED IN CLOSE TO THE ENTRANCE AND I WAS TOLD, YOU CAN'T PARK THERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO PUT UP A TENT IN THE PARKING LOT.
THEY DON'T EVEN LET THE POLLING SUPERVISORS PARK CLOSE TO THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT BLOCKS THE CITIZENS ABILITY TO ACCESS THE POLLING PLACE.
WELL, THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME GO BATONS.
STOMACH STARTED GETTING TIGHT, THE ANGER STARTED RISING.
AND THAT WAS NOT THE RESPONSE I WANTED TO SEE.
WHEN I LOOK UP AND I SEE A POSTER THAT SAYS DEMOCRATIC POLLING LOCATION.
AND OF COURSE, BATMAN BEING THE WAY HE IS.
HE HAD NO PROBLEM CHALLENGING THE SITUATION.
AND SO I DID. AND I DRESSED IT AS SUCH THAT THIS WAS A PARTIZAN CITY.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE IDENTIFYING PARTIES AND THEN TELLING A VOTING REPRESENTATIVE THAT YOU CAN'T PARK HERE BECAUSE WE'RE SAVING THIS UP, THIS SPOT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO SET UP OUR TENT.
LUCKILY. FOR THE BETTER PORTION OF ME BEING UP IN JAIL.
MY WIFE WAS WITH ME AND SHE SAID, BILL, JUST BACK UP OUT OF THE PARKING SPOT AND GO PARK SOMEPLACE ELSE.
I WOULD CAST MY BALLOT, CAME BACK OUT AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED, THOUGH THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THEN CAME UP TO ME AND APOLOGIZED, WHICH WAS THE RIGHT RESPONSE THAT I WOULD EXPECTED TO SEE, AND THAT THAT GAVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF FAITH BACK IN HUMANITY AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WAS THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONPARTISAN AND THEN TO BE POLL UP AND CHALLENGE. IT ALMOST MADE ME GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BILL BATTON APPROACH ON HOW HE DEALS WITH PROBLEMS BUT HE DIDN'T.
BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT THIS IS A NONPARTIZAN COUNCIL, YET WE STILL KEEP BRINGING UP PARTY POINTS OF VIEW.
I TRY TO VOTE FOR PEOPLE IN THIS DIOCESE BASED ON THEIR CHARACTER AND WHAT THEIR POINTS AND WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE.
AND I THINK I DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF SELECTING, AND I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN TOO BIASED ON WHICH PARTY I BELONG TO.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT BELONGS TO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ACIDITY, THE CITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR ISN'T HAPPENING AT A POLLING PLACE.
SO THAT PUTS THE RESPONSIBILITY ONE MORE TIME.
THANK YOU. ROBERT STYLES FOLLOWED BY PHILLIP COCHRANE, THE BATON OR MASTER CHIEF.
DID YOU CONTACT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS? THANKS. GOOD EVENING.
AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HITTING THE TRAFFIC ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME OUTSIDE MY HOME AT
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SUMMERFIELD. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT QUALITY WITH TRAFFIC AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.STONE BRIER JUST ADDED 328 HOMES AND NOW WE HAVE TWO HOMES, ONE AD, 357 HOMES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE.
THAT'S 685 HOMES ON TOP OF THE 17 HOMES ARE CURRENTLY EXIST IN BAYSIDE LAKES TIMES TWO CARS PER HOUSE, THAT'S 1370 ADDITIONAL CARS.
AND THAT'S ONLY IF YOU HAVE TWO CARS, A HOUSEHOLD THAT'S NOT TEENAGE KIDS DRIVING OR ANYTHING ELSE, ALL COMING DOWN BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD TO EMERSON.
AND I WAS OUT THERE WITH FRANK WATANABE AND WE LOOKED AT THE SPEED THEY'RE AVERAGING 50 MILES AN HOUR. I'VE ALL TALKED TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT THE FOUR DEATHS THAT WE HAD IN FOUR YEARS FROM PEOPLE JUST HAULING UNTIL INCLUDING SOMEBODY WHO WAS JUST BURNED IN A FIERY DEATH. THE REZONING AND THE REZONING EXIT OF THIS.
THIS NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WILL BE RIGHT NEXT TO OUR EXIT AND ENTRANCE AREA RIGHT THERE. AND I JUST PRAY TO GOD, MR. MAYOR, YOU TOLD ME THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE AN ENGINEER LOOK AT THAT AREA, BUT YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE COMING COMING DOWN BAYSIDE LAKES AND AN AMAZON.
NOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, BUSSES, GARBAGE TRUCKS, YOU KNOW.
FEDEX, AMAZON AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE CREATING, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CREATE BY DROPPING THE LADY LIST. LAST MEETING CALLED IT A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
IF YOU IF YOU ALLOW RAPID SUBURBAN SPRAWL, I LOOK THAT UP.
I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO PULL AWAY FROM THAT BEDROOM TYPE COMMUNITY.
AND YOU GO IN SOUTH AS YOU'RE BUILDING SOUTH.
I'M HOPING YOU THERE'S A COLES THAT OPENS UP THERE AND MAYBE A PANERA BREAD OR WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT WHEN YOU KEEP DROPPING COMMUNITY AFTER COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER, YOU'RE MAKING A HORRIBLE COMMUNITY.
SO I'M ASKING YOU TO DO A EFFICIENT JOB OF PLANNING ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
LOOK AT YOUR SISTER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL.
LOOK AT THE ERA, YOU KNOW, BEING THAT WE HAVE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE ON THE CITY STAFF, CAN YOU PARTNER WITH SOME OF THE THE VETERANS THAT ARE IN VIEIRA AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU TAKE OUT THAT GOLF COURSE AND START PUTTING DOWN ALL OF THESE HOMES.
BASICALLY WHAT PALM BAY BECOMES IS A CITY OF TREES.
PLEASE GIVE THAT DUE CONSIDERATION.
YOU CAN HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING OUT AND SPEAKING ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, PHILLIP COCHRAN, FOLLOWED BY ELAINE COCHRAN.
1878 WHEN BROOK DRIVE PALM BAY.
WE HAVE ALL HEARD THE EXPRESSION IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
THE OWNER OF THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE HAS STATED THAT THE GOLF COURSE IS LOSING MONEY AND SHE HAD TO SELL HER BOAT TO KEEP IT GOING.
SHE ALSO STATED THAT THE GOLF COURSE WAS FOR SALE THE DAY SHE BOUGHT IT.
SO IT IS CLEAR THAT SHE BOUGHT THE COURSE TO FLIP IT.
THE MOST PROFITABLE FLIP IS TO SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER.
ACCORDING TO THE FUTURE, USE MAPS FOR THE GOLF COURSE IS ZONED AS RURAL SINGLE FAMILY USE OR FIVE ACRE LOTS.
JOY LLC ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH UPLAND VENTURES TO BUILD 300 TO 400 UNITS ON JUST 31 ACRES OF LAND. FIVE MONTHS AFTER SHE TOOK OWNERSHIP.
1 MILLION FOR THE PROPERTY, AND THE PROJECT, IF COMPLETED, WOULD HAVE BEEN VALUED AT $59 MILLION. THE LLC IS BEING SUED BY UPLAND BECAUSE THE PROJECT CANNOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO ZONING ISSUES.
TO BE CLEAR, THIS MONEY GRAB OR WEALTH TRANSFER COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS. SO THE MONEY IS BEING CONSTRAINED BY ZONING, AND ZONING IS THE PLACE WHERE THE CITIZENS ARE PROTECTED IN IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE GOLF COURSE EXISTS EXIST UPSCALE HOUSING QUARTER TO THREE QUARTER INCH LOTS ULTRA PLANS TO PUT UNITS.
WITH DENSITIES OF 6 TO 8 UNITS PER ACRE, VASTLY CHANGING THE CHARACTER IN THE VALUE OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSES ON ONE BROOK, YELLOW AND YELLOW WOULD BE WOULD BE SEVERELY IMPACTED BY HAVING 3 TO 4 UNITS LESS THAN 50 FEET FROM THEIR SWIMMING POOLS.
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ANYTHING COULD BE INSTALLED, BUT LITTLE CAN BE DONE TO ELIMINATE THE NOISE POLLUTION.SEVERELY DEGRADING THE QUALITY OF SUMMERFIELD RESIDENTS.
VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE PUTS THE DECREASE IN VALUE OF THE HOMES IN BAYSIDE LAKES AT 5%. AND IF CALCULATION SUMMERFIELD ALONE RESULTS IN A $5 MILLION LOSS IN ASSESSED HOUSE VALUE AND TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE FOUR ALL OF BAYSIDE LAKES, SOME HOUSES ON WYNN BROOK DRIVE ARE VALUED OVER $1,000,000.
THIS NEW PROPOSAL WOULD PUT SEVERAL HOMES OF MUCH LESSER VALUE DIRECTLY BEHIND THEM.
IT IS NOT IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE TO PROJECT 25% LOSSES IN VALUE OF OWNERS WITH PROPERTY THAT ARE DIRECTLY THAT DIRECTLY ADJOIN THE GOLF COURSE.
THIS MONEY TRANSFER IS DIRECTLY FROM BAYSIDE RESIDENTS TO JOY, LLC.
ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL CAN PREVENT THIS WEALTH TRANSFER OF WEALTH.
PEOPLE OF BAYSIDE LINKS WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A ZONING CHANGE FROM GENERAL USE TO GOLF COURSE ONLY.
THIS IS HOW WE CAN KEEP PALM BAY IS THE BEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, AND WE THANK CHIEF MOYA AND WISH HE WAS HERE TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
THANK YOU. ELAINE CORCORAN, FOLLOWED BY JIM LANE.
MARY CORCORAN, 21 AND 24 LYNBROOK DRIVE.
GOOD EVENING. YOU'LL BE ASKED IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND THE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FOR THE AREA WHICH CONTAINS THE MAJOR'S GOLF CLUB FROM RURAL SINGLE FAMILY USE, WHICH IS ONE HOME PER FIVE ACRE LOT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE OR 25 HOMES PER FIVE ACRES.
THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE IN DENSITY, WHICH DOESN'T PRESERVE THE PALM BAY WAY OF LIFE.
I'M NOT AGAINST WELL-PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
I'M AGAINST OPPORTUNISTIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH LEADS TO SPOT ZONING.
IF THIS REZONING IS APPROVED, RESIDENTS WHO ARE ADVERSELY IMPACTED WILL RIGHTFULLY DEMAND TO HAVE THEIR HOME VALUES REASSESSED WHEN THE HOMES DEPRECIATE IN VALUE.
IN MY PART OF BAYSIDE LAKES, THERE ARE 173 RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE IMPACTED.
THERE ARE 15 OTHER COMMUNITIES ADJACENT TO MINE WHICH WILL SUFFER THE SAME IMPACTS.
SO I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE OVER 1000 HOMEOWNERS ASK FOR LOWER ASSESSMENTS.
THE TAX REVENUE COMING INTO PALM BAY FROM THE ADDITION OF 367 COLTER HOMES WILL SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED WHEN THE LOWER HOME VALUES IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CONSIDERED.
THE NET EFFECT WOULD REQUIRE A HIGHER TAX RATE AT A TIME WHEN YOU SHOULD BE DOING ALL YOU CAN TO HOLD THE LINE ON EXPENSES, INCLUDING TAXES FOR ALL PALM BAY RESIDENTS.
PLEASE TAKE A CRITICAL LOOK AT THE IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSAL AND STAND FIRM TO REINFORCE THE FUTURE LAND USE OBLIGATIONS MADE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND REJECT THE LAND USE AMENDMENT APPLICATION, WHICH WILL SOON COME BEFORE YOU.
YOU KNOW, AS I WROTE THIS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING, I BELIEVE CULTER HOMES IS ALREADY OPERATING OUTSIDE OF PROPER PROCEDURES AS A FEW PEOPLE RECEIVED LETTERS FOR A MARCH 21ST MEETING. THAT'S NEXT WEEK.
THAT'S TWO BUSINESS DAYS, AND THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT TO REACT OR DO ANY RESEARCH FOR HOMEOWNERS LIKE ME WHO HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LETTER.
THANK YOU. JIM LANE, FOLLOWED BY MARK HODGE.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JIM LANE.
MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT 1828 WINDING RIDGE CIRCLE IN THE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY.
AFTER SEARCHING MANY AREAS IN FLORIDA, WE DECIDED ON THE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY AND PURCHASED A HOME HERE IN 2010.
THIS AREA HAD EVERYTHING WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
NUMBER ONE WAS A CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A CHALLENGING GOLF COURSE, WHICH THE MAJORS IS.
NUMBER TWO IS THE ABILITY TO ACCESS GROCERY STORES, DRUGSTORES AND EATERIES VIA GOLF CART, WHICH WE ENJOY VERY MUCH.
THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, THOUGH, IS BEING PART OF A GREAT COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE MET AND BECAME GREAT FRIENDS WITH SO MANY GENERALLY GOOD PEOPLE HERE, AND THE GOLF COURSE HAS SO MUCH TO DO WITH THAT.
AFTER THE RETIREMENT, MY PARENTS RELOCATED HERE TO PALM BAY.
MY BEST FRIEND FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND HIS WIFE PURCHASED A HOME HERE.
AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE FRIENDS FROM UPSTATE NEW YORK.
THEY HAVE CONTRACTS ON HOMES HERE.
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FOLKS ARE FLOCKING HERE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WANTING THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE. THE GOLF COURSE BRINGS IN PATRONS FROM ALL OVER, WHICH NOT ONLY SPENDS MONEY AT THE COURSE, BUT OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES AS WELL.THEY EAT AT LOCAL RESTAURANTS.
THEY PURCHASE ITEMS FROM OTHER RETAILERS.
IF MISS JOYNER CAN PROVIDE PROOF TO THE COUNCIL THAT THE COURSE IS TRULY UNSUSTAINABLE, THEN POSSIBLY THE CITY COULD OFFER MONETARY ASSISTANCE VIA TAX ABATEMENT UNTIL SHE HAS TIME TO MAKE THE BUSINESS PROFITABLE BY ALLOWING THE GOLF COURSE TO BE REZONED FOR CAUSE US TO START SEARCHING AGAIN AND RELOCATE, WHICH WE DO NOT WANT TO DO.
BUT THIS HAS A MUCH GREATER EFFECT ON MORE THAN JUST MY WIFE AND MYSELF, BUT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
AND ALL THE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.
THANK YOU. MARK HODGE, FOLLOWED BY STEVE CALENDAR.
I'M HERE TO REMIND US OF AN APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO REZONE THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE OR BUILDING A HOME.
ASPHALT TO REPLACE A RECREATIONAL AREA.
OH. ANOTHER VOICE TO BE HEARD IS OUR KIDS.
THESE ARE OUR KIDS OF THE CITY ENJOYING A RECREATION AREA.
OUR SONS ARE DAUGHTERS, OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THOSE HERE TODAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DRAW.
THESE KIDS, THEY ARE THE CITY.
IN TWO MORE SLIDES, AND I HAVE TO RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY.
STEVE IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MANY OF US HERE.
STEVE ASKED FOR HIS VOICE TO BE HEARD.
OR DON'T YOU? WE, THE CITY, HAVE ASKED YOU TO THE MIKES, JUST SO WE GET IT.
WE, THE CITY HAVE ASKED YOU TO LEAD US.
LEAD US TO PRESERVE THIS RECREATIONAL AREA, THIS GREEN SPACE.
NO BRICKS, NO MORTAR, NO ASPHALT.
IN THIS RECREATIONAL AREA, THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.
THIS IS OUR ONLY GOLF COURSE IN THIS CITY OF 120,000 PEOPLE.
STEVE CALENDAR, FOLLOWED BY A PASTOR, KEN DELGADO.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS STEVE CALLENDER AND I LIVE AT 681 MORNING COVE CIRCLE IN BAYSIDE LAKES. MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THIS HOME IN 2005, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION ON THE GOLF COURSE AND RELATIVELY LIGHT AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC FOR FLORIDA.
WE RECENTLY RETIRED AND BECAME FLORIDA RESIDENTS, SO WE WERE ABLE TO SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME LIVING HERE PAYING TAXES AND VOTING FOR THOSE WHO HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.
I SPENT A LONG CAREER IN THE GAMING BUSINESS, SO I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF ADULT RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT.
THE MAJORS PROVIDES BOTH OF THIS TO THIS COMMUNITY AND FRANKLY, THERE ISN'T MUCH ELSE OF IT IN PALM BAY.
AND THE ABSENCE OF RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT QUALITY OF LIFE WILL SUFFER GREATLY IN OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT MY NEIGHBORS GOLFERS AND NON GOLFERS ALIKE.
I FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT I DO IN THIS REGARD.
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LIVING ON THE GOLF COURSE. WE BELIEVE THAT REZONING WILL RUIN OUR LIFESTYLE AND PROPERTY VALUES. MANY OF THE GOLFERS I MEET ON THE COURSE DON'T LIVE ON THE GOLF COURSE, BUT THEY PLAY HERE FREQUENTLY.THE MAJORS IS A CONVENIENT GOLF STOP FOR FRIENDS FROM DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE STATE, ALL COMING HERE TO SPEND MONEY.
I HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED BY THE RECENT POSITIVE CHANGES TO THE COURSE AND CAN TELL YOU THAT THE NONMEMBERS I MEET WHILE PLAYING ARE ENCOURAGED AS WELL.
WELL, I CERTAINLY RESPECT THE OWNER'S INVESTMENT AND RIGHT TO MAKE BUSINESS DECISIONS.
REZONING DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK OR MAKE SENSE.
BETWEEN 2006 AND 2012, NEW JERSEY, NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA IN PARTICULAR LOST RECORD NUMBERS OF GOLF COURSES TO THE HOUSING BOOM.
BUT WHEN IT DIDN'T LAST, THEY ENDED UP WITH GROWN OVER GOLF COURSE LAND AND NOT A LOT MORE HOMES. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND AVAILABLE IN OTHER AREAS OF PALM BAY FOR NEW HOUSING PROJECTS.
SO WHY WOULD WE LOSE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ASSET IN OUR COMMUNITY? I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND NOT REZONE THE MAJORS GOLF CLUB.
THANK YOU. PASTOR KINDERGARTEN AND WILL CONCLUDE WITH BUTCHER AND KENDALL.
GOT A15 FOR ANGELO ROAD SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO TURN THIS AROUND AFTER SUCH SUCCINCT AND WELL-THOUGHT OUT AND A GREAT PRESENTATION BY THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY.
I HAVEN'T BEEN INVITED TO GOLF THERE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL GREEN SPACE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT JOHN CHAPTER THREE, IF I MAY.
YEARS AGO, MAYBE BEFORE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WAS EVEN BORN, WE HAD THIS THING CALLED A VHS PLAYER, ALONG WITH A STEREO SYSTEM.
AND AND MY SON WAS ABOUT THREE YEARS OLD BACK THEN, AND HE WAS HEADING STRAIGHT TOWARDS THAT BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
AND I HAD ALREADY TAUGHT HIM, NO, DON'T TOUCH.
SO AS HE IS SLOWLY GOING TO THERE, I CALLED OUT LIKE A GOOD PARENT.
AND DO YOU KNOW, HE JUST KIND OF TILTED HIS HEAD FOR A MINUTE, LOOKED AT ME AND EXTENDED HIS HAND AND PLACED IT ON THAT NICE SET, AS IF TO SAY, AND JUST WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? AND THERE I WAS, YOU KNOW, I HAD PROTECTED MY SON VERY CAREFULLY.
AND I SAID I SAID, WHERE DID HE LEARN HOW TO DISOBEY A LOVING FATHER? WELL, IN JOHN CHAPTER THREE, JESUS WAS SPEAKING AND HE SAID THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE FLESH IS FLESH AND THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT.
DO NOT MARVEL THAT I SAY TO YOU.
WHERE DID HE LEARN IT? HE CAUGHT IT FROM ME.
I WAS THE EXPERT AT DISOBEYING.
AND SO BECAUSE HE IS FLESH, LIKE I AM FLESH, HE WENT THE WAY I USED TO GO UNTIL I WAS BORN AGAIN.
GOD, THE FATHER HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO REESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS CREATION.
YET THERE'S SOMETHING INSIDE OF US THAT IS CONTRARY TO THAT DESIRE.
KNOWLEDGE USUALLY IS THAT POSITION WHERE WE THINK THAT WE KNOW MORE THAN GOD.
AND YET HE SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOU ARE BORN AGAIN BY THE SPIRIT WHERE I CAN CHANGE YOU FROM THE INSIDE AS YOU TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST.
THEN YOU WILL EXPERIENCE A CHANGE IN YOUR LIFE, AS I DID AS HE SAVED MY MARRIAGE FROM DIVORCE. BEING BORN AGAIN IS JUST UNDERSTANDING THE SIMPLE TRUTH OF JOHN 316 FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD. HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST DID NOT COME TO CONDEMN THE WORLD.
A TALKING FELLOWSHIP RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS CREATION.
AND SO WHEN WE MEAN MORE KNOWLEDGE, REALLY, WE DON'T NEED MORE KNOWLEDGE.
WE JUST NEED MORE OF THE WISDOM OF GOD IN A RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE LET HIM BEGIN TO WORK THROUGH US TO CHANGE OUR LIVES.
THANK YOU. WHAT'S AROUND? PUT YOUR RAND TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MS..
BROWN. SHE'S ATTEMPTING TO SET UP A MEETING TO EXPLAIN THIS ELEVATION PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE ON NEW HOMES IN PALM BAY.
AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THAT.
SECOND THING, I DO VOLUNTEER WORK, WHICH REQUIRES ME TO DRIVE ALL OVER PALM BAY FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, EAST AND THE WEST.
I GO BY HOMES WHERE TRASH, JUNK CARS.
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JUST TRASH IS THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT.UP ABOVE THE WINDOWS ON SOME HOMES.
WE'RE FINDING THEM IN EACH DAY.
WHY CAN'T THERE BE SOME MEAT? PUT IN CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THAT PERSON, PROPERTY OWNER, WHOEVER IT IS, HAS TO TAKE CARE OF IT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS INSTEAD OF LETTING IT SET TILL RATS MOVE IN.
THE OTHER THING AND THIS IS GOING TO HIT SOME PEOPLE HARD.
WE LIVE IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.
A CAPITALIST SOCIETY IS TO MAKE MONEY.
SO IF A PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE.
NOW I'VE GOT TWO EMPTY LOTS THAT'S BEEN CLEARED.
I'VE GOT ONE LARGE HOUSE BEHIND ME AND THEY'RE GOING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO IT'S JUST THE WAY AMERICA WORKS.
AND WE SAY WE'RE THE GREATEST CITY WITH THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT THING.
IT JUST GIVES IT AN UGLY, UGLY PICTURE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR PRIORITIES WITHIN THE CITY.
AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, SIR.
A LOT OF THINGS TO HEAR FROM FOLKS.
YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH THEM, BUT THANKS FOR DOING IT ANYHOW.
I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND THE REST OF YOU GUYS ALSO.
YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND GO GONZAGA.
THANK YOU, BROOKE. MADAM CHAIR, REGARDING THE CODE.
AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TODAY REGARDING THE MAGISTRATE. RIGHT.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH OR HAVE WE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT? YES, MA'AM. SIR.
SO THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT MR. AREND MENTIONED.
WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT THE FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION ISSUE.
THAT'S BEEN AN INCREASING PROBLEM WE'VE BECOME AWARE OF.
AND IT'S, UH, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON TO FIX THAT PROBLEM, ONE OF WHICH IS ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE ISSUE THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU.
SECOND THING IS THE COMPLAINT ABOUT TRASH AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
CERTAINLY WE FOLLOW STATE STATUTES FOR A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE OTHER ISSUE OR OTHER POTENTIAL OPTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRASH INSIDE OF A HOUSE OR JUST OUTSIDE THE HOUSE.
THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE.
OKAY. SO CERTAINLY WE CAN TALK FURTHER ABOUT THAT.
AND MINTON ROAD, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT TWO THINGS.
ONE IS IT WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE PART OF THE OBVIOUSLY THE ROAD BOND PAVING.
IT'S TIME HAD NOT COME YET, BUT CLEARLY NEEDS TO.
BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON PLANS FOR THE WIDENING OF MINTON, WHICH MIGHT REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION FOR SOME RECONFIGURATION OF SOME STORMWATER AREAS THERE AT JUPITER, BUT DEFINITELY WORKING ON BOTH OF THOSE ACTIVELY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU, BUTCH.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE AT PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND I'M GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER ONE AND ASK MISS SMITH TO.ORDINANCE 2022 DAS 33, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AND ABANDON A PORTION OF THE SITE.
20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOTS TWO AND THREE BLOCK 1608 PORT MALABAR UNIT 32, ACCORDING TO THE PLOT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 17 PAGE 44 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD.
I GUESS I'M BACK FOR THE SECOND TIME LIVE AT 237 SAYBROOK ROAD.
JUST LOOKING TO GET RID OF THE EIGHT FEET OF THAT EASEMENT SO I CAN CONTINUE ON WITH MY ADDITIONS AND POOL IN THE BACK YARD.
WE'VE SWAPPED SOME OTHER THINGS AROUND SO WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
AS LONG AS WE GET THE EIGHT FEET, THEN EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT COUNCIL? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
ANY COMMENTS, MADAM SHERMAN? NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU, SIR.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ASK FOR MOTION MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 233 FINAL READING.
SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
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CNN I'M CALLING QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.I ANY OPPOSE THIS AS UNANIMOUSLY.
MISS SMITH. THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS QUASI JUDICIAL NATURE.
PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY IN SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.
ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.
ATTORNEYS WHO ARE REPRESENTING OR APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING A SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY SELF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY AS COMPLY WITH SECTION 5903 PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES. EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES PER WITNESS.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.
HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION OF THE APPLICATION, BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS CYPRESS BAY COMMERCIAL CENTER AND PUD LAND UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET, VICINITY NORTH OF DAVIS LANE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
MR. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OUR NEWEST COUNCIL MEMBER.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I LIVE AT 1012 AVON AVENUE, LAKELAND, FLORIDA.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE EXCEPT DEPUTY MAYOR, WHO MY TENANT LINE UP IS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH STAFF.
AGAIN, AS I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S JUST BEEN OUTSTANDING AND WE'VE ENJOYED THE FEEDBACK AND THE MEETINGS, THE CALLS THAT WE'VE HAD AND WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THERE'S GOING TO BE EIGHT COMMERCIAL PARCELS THAT WILL BE MIXED USE.
THERE WILL BE NO APARTMENTS ABOVE IT OR BELOW IT.
ALL COMMERCIAL. YOUR OWN OR DOES YOUR COMPANY OWN ANY? IS YOUR MICROPHONE NOW COUNCILMAN? DO YOU OWN OR DOES YOUR COMPANY OWN ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTY AROUND AROUND THIS AREA? NO, WE DO NOT.
OKAY. WE'VE DEVELOPED THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST, THOUGH.
THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING IS BECAUSE IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE MORE COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA, I WOULD LIKE A DEVELOPER TO FOLLOW THE INDIANAPOLIS PLAN, AS WE HAVE ON MALABAR ROAD AND ON PALM BAY ROAD, WHICH IS CONNECTING THE PARKING LOTS TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC OFF HERITAGE PARKWAY AND ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC OFF BABCOCK STREET.
I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD INTERNAL ROADWAY.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, I SAW YOUR PLAN.
YOUR PLAN LOOKED GOOD MOVING IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CAME THROUGH JUST TO CONNECT THAT OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THAT'S ALL.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. NO, SIR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TENANT.
IS IT PUBLIC? NO. DEPUTY MAYOR, I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSISTENCE, BUT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THIS RIGHT NOW. BUT WHAT I WILL DO AS SOON AS I'M ALLOWED TO SAY SOMETHING, YOU'LL BE THE FIRST PERSON I COME TO.
HOW ABOUT THAT? YOU CAN BREAK THE NEWS.
WELL, WE ARE WEARING GREEN TODAY, BUT IT'S FOR SAINT PATTY'S DAY.
AND MY TOWN HAS A GREEN RING FROM PUBLIX.
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HAPPEN TO BE A PUBLIX? YES.GREAT COMPANY. A GREAT CAREER WITH THEM.
THOUGHT I'D MENTIONED THAT. I APPRECIATE IT.
Y'ALL ARE JUST TRYING TO GET ME IN TROUBLE.
MADAM CHAIRMAN. ANY COMMENTS? NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVAL IN ITS 2022 DASH 34 FINAL READING SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.
II PASSES, ANY NAYS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHAT IS 2022? THAT'S 38.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS SUBCHAPTER YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD A MODIFY THE MEMBERSHIP TERM LIMITS PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDNANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES. PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I CERTAINLY MAY. THIS IS JUST THE FINAL READING FOR A REQUESTED CHANGE TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REVISE THE MEMBERSHIP TERMS FOR YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD FROM ONE YEAR TO TWO YEARS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? CAN ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IN NONE OF MY CLOTHES.
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED WERE IN ITS 2022 DASH 38 FINAL READING.
SECOND. MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR BY ANY NAYS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THAT'S IT. GOING ON TO CONSENT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
HAPPY, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.THE ITEMS FOR CONSENT REMOVAL AS OF NOW OR ITEMS THREE.
THREE, FOUR, FIVE, 11, 12, 13, 16 AND 18.
MEMBERS WISH TO PULL ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS. L ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVALS OF ITEMS THREE, FOUR, FIVE, 11, 12, 13, 16, AND 18.
SECOND, THAT MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR.
I GOT TO GET USED TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING AND CONVEYING PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22 PAGES 125 THROUGH 137 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE ORDINANCE 2022, THUS 39 AND ORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS SUBCHAPTER BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPEAL OF THE SUBCHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY, THEREBY DISSOLVING THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THAT'S 40 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS SUBCHAPTER LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. BY REPEALING THIS SUBCHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY, THEREBY DISSOLVING THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR.
[3. Change of Award of Proposal: Special Magistrate for Code Compliance - RFP 13-0-2022 - Growth Management Department (Clark Hill - $29,280 annually).]
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BILL GILBERT.BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST.
IS VERY NICE THAT BRUCE JUST BROUGHT UP THE FACT OF THE WAY THE TRASH APPEARS ON THE STREET. THIS IS GOING DOWN THE ROAD I LIVE ON.
IT'S 100% TRASH WHEN YOU HAVE TRAILERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PULLING OUT INTO THE STREET, SETTING UP CAMPSITES.
THERE'S SOME KIND OF VIOLATION WHEN I LOOK AT THAT.
AND BILL BATTEN WAS FINED $500 A DAY FOR TRASH IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR PUTTING COMPOST MATERIAL TO MAKE HIS GRASS GREEN.
I FIND THERE'S SOME KIND OF DIS CONGRUENT BEHAVIOR WHEN THAT FOOT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING AFTER SOMEBODY WHO'S TRYING TO MAKE A LOOK BEAUTIFUL TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IT SITS THERE. THAT'S WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE GOING AFTER.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK UP THERE, THAT SIGN SAYS ADOPT A ROAD AND YOU HAPPEN TO NOTICE IT SAYS PATENT BILL RANCH.
WELL, WHO IS THE PATENT BILL RANCH? THAT'S ME. SO FOR THE TIME THAT I'VE LIVED OUT THERE FOR 35 YEARS, I'VE BEEN THE ONE WHO'S BEEN PICKING UP THE TRASH ON THAT STREET TO KEEP IT LOOKING HALFWAY PRESENTABLE.
I'M TRYING TO DO MY PART TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN.
THAT METAL SIGN IN THAT PICTURE HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE FOR A ROAD.
IT KIND OF TAKES THE WIND OUT OF MY SAIL TO MAKE ME WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN AND GO AND PICK UP THE TRASH THAT'S SITTING ALONGSIDE THE ROAD.
SO WHY SHOULD I WASTE MY TIME AND ENERGY WHEN THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? NEXT PICTURE, PLEASE.
IF YOU GET AS SOON AS YOU GET PAST THAT TRAILER AND EVERYTHING ELSE, LOOK HOW NICE THE STREET LOOKS. GRASS IS MOWED ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
THAT'S A CITIZEN SAYING, I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING.
I'M EXPECTING THE CITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
SO IF I LOOK AT THE AGENDA ITEM WHERE I'M LOOKING AT A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OF $30,000 A YEAR, THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF GENERAL FUND.
I'M SAYING, WHY SHOULD I EVEN SPEND MY MONEY IF THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? SO JUST THINK ABOUT IT'S $30,000 A YEAR YET.
I WAS FINED $500 A DAY FOR KEEPING THE STREET LOOKING NICE.
YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE MAKE THE CHANGE.
I'M NOT SAYING DON'T SPEND IT.
I JUST WANT THIS MAGISTRATE TO HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE AUTHORITY LEGALLY IF THEY CAN.
I KNOW WE'RE UNDER GUIDELINES, BUT TO DO SOMETHING, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT ALL WE EVER SEE IS THE CITIZENS THAT TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE PAYING THEIR FINES, ARE MAKING THE CORRECTIONS.
THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO THUMB THEIR NOSE AND LEAVE IT LIKE THIS.
I'M. WOULD THE MAGISTRATE BE ABLE? WHAT? HOW CAN WE HANDLE THIS? I KNOW IT MAY BE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES, RIGHT? BUT LEGALLY WHAT? LEGALLY, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE ATTORNEY LEGALLY, MA'AM, I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING IN THIS MAGISTRATE. RIGHT.
WILL HE HAVE ANY TEETH TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS? THE MAGISTRATE WILL HAVE CERTAINLY ALL THE POWER UNDERNEATH THE STATUTE, WHICH, OF COURSE, INCLUDES FINES AND IMPOSITION OF LIENS.
BEYOND THAT, THE MAGISTRATE COULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL.
AS YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE ONE PARTICULAR SPECIAL PROJECT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL DOES ALL THE TIME AS FAR AS HAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUE.
LITIGATION, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING AS WELL.
IF THERE IS SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE FILES AND LEAVES ARTWORK AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL AND COUNSEL CAN CONSIDER WHETHER THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES IN WHICH COUNSEL WANTS TO TAKE ADDITIONAL ACTION, WHICH IN THAT CASE WE DID FILE LITIGATION WORK WITH CODE AND THE PROPERTY WAS CLEANED OUT.
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CAN DO, ESPECIALLY ON PROPERTY THAT IS HOMESTEAD. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS DEPENDING UPON COUNCIL AND WHETHER COUNCIL THINKS IT RISES TO THE LEVEL TO PURSUE LITIGATION.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND AND SO THIS ITEM IS UNDER CONSENT BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING YOU ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY WITH SEEKING THE MAGISTRATE.
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WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY BACK INITIALLY THEY WERE VERY CLOSE WHERE WE HAD TWO PEOPLE THAT RESPOND, ONE OF WHICH THAT RESPONDED AS TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THE INSURANCE PROVISIONS.BUT THE NEGOTIATION REALLY INVOLVES NOT HAVING ANY INSURANCE.
SO THAT WASN'T REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO.
SO WITH THE SECOND, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE GOING WITH THE SECOND BIDDER, THERE WERE A COUPLE MODIFICATIONS THAT THE SECOND BIDDER WANTED.
THEY SPECIFY WHAT THOSE MODIFICATIONS WERE.
WE HAVE NO ISSUE THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED WITH THE CONTRACT.
AND IF THE COUNCIL GIVES US THE OKAY TO PROCEED, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO FORTH WITH THAT PERSON AND THAT PERSON IS PART OF A LAW FIRM, THE OTHER PERSON.
ISN'T PART OF A LAW FIRM AND ACTUALLY SO HAD NO INSURANCE WHATSOEVER.
AND SO THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE WERE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO WE TRY, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO RESOLVE IT ALL. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
NOT TOWARDS THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT OUR CITY MANAGER, MISS SHERMAN, WENT ON.
WE'RE DUE FOR BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT UP LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
OUR PRESENTATION FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AND DIFFERENT IDEALS AND PATHS THAT WE CAN TAKE.
WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT DOING IT SOMETIME IN MAY.
I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH STAFF TO SEE IF WE'D BE READY FOR THAT.
AND THEN IF THAT'S A GOOD MONTH, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.
IF NOT, WE'LL GIVE YOU A DATE CERTAIN THAT WE CAN BRING IT BACK.
THANK YOU. IF THIS IS JUST GOING TO GET THAT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IN PLACE.
RIGHT. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, WAS THAT YOU? YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I LISTEN TO YOU, BILL, ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
I KIND OF FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER DROVE BY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEN DROVE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE END OF THE STREET TO SEE YOUR MANURE IN YOUR YARD WHEN HE PASSED BY ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO THIS HAPPENED.
MAYBE CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS SHORT AT THE TIME, I'M NOT SURE.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I DO LIKE THIS MOVE AS OPPOSED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. I EVEN THINK THAT THE ANNUAL SALARY OF HILL, WE GOT HIM FOR A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. THAT'S MY OPINION.
I KNOW IT'S A PART TIME JOB, BUT FOR A LAWYER I THINK THAT'S PRETTY WELL.
I DID WANT TO CONFIRM WITH EITHER THE CITY MANAGER OR WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT CLERKHILL IS IN BOVARD COUNTY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT ON THE PUBLIC RECORD OR ON AGENDA, YOU HAD AN ADDRESS FROM PITTSBURGH.
THE LAW FIRM ITSELF IS A LAW FIRM THAT'S ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THE PERSON THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS A LOCAL ATTORNEY HERE IN BROWARD COUNTY. THANK YOU.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPROPRIATIONS OF FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
CONTINGENCY ACCOUNT TO GENERAL FUND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED BUDGET AMENDMENT AND APPROVE AWARD OF RFP SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SERVICES FOR CCO COMPLIANCE. FRANK SCAGLIONE, ESQUIRE OF THE FIRM CLARK HILL AND ALLOW THE CITY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE THE SUBSEQUENT AGREEMENT.
COUNCIL APPROVAL IS REQUESTED TO ESTABLISH A TWO YEAR TERM CONTRACT RENEWABLE BY THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT FOR THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TERMS. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? BEING ON I'M CALLING QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.
I ALL OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[4. Resolution 2022-13, adopting the goal of Vision Zero - that no loss of life isacceptable on our city streets.]
RESOLUTION 2022, THAT'S 13, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE GOAL OF VISION ZERO THAT NO LOSS OF LIFE IS ACCEPTABLE ON OUR CITY STREETS PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.MARK MCCLOY. FOLLOWED BY NANETTE MCCLOY.
COME ON UP. AND WE RENDER SOME ASSISTANCE. PLEASE.
I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEAK.
I JUST WANTED THE ITEM REMOVED.
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I WANTED THIS ITEM REMOVED FROM THEIR CONSENT AGENDA IN REGARDS TO THE VISION ZERO.ALL MAKING OUR STREETS SAFER FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT I BELIEVE THIS AGENDA IS PART OF A BIGGER GLOBAL AGENDA.
AND IT'S GOING TO LIMIT THE CITIZENS RIGHTS.
WHEN WHEN YOU SAY BIGGER AGENDA, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT? IT SHOULDN'T ZERO.
OKAY. SO WHAT IS YOUR NAME, MA'AM? YEAH, I HAVE THAT. IT WAS THE LAST ONE I HAD.
REMAIN STEADFAST RIGHT THERE, MAN.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, DO YOU WANT TO DEFER TO.
OKAY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE OUR MISS LAURIE.
YOU JUST HAVE A SEAT THERE, MA'AM.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU HAVE MY.
A CIRCLE. SO I LOOKED INTO I JUST WANT TO SHARE.
I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE VISION ZERO.
I READ A LOT OF STUFF AND I WANTED TO SHARE A JOURNEY THAT I TOOK WITH EVERYBODY HERE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE BROCHURE THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.
AND SO ON PAGE TWO OF THAT, THERE WAS A LINK THAT I FOLLOWED AND IT BROUGHT ME TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.
AND LOWER ON THAT PAGE THERE WAS A VISION ZERO LINK THAT I FOLLOWED AND THAT BROUGHT ME TO THIS EVALUATION.
UNDER THE RESOURCES, THERE IS THE LINK TO WHAT IS CALLED ON TOKENIZING.
IT WOULDN'T PRINT OUT RIGHT FOR ME, BUT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT IT GOES TO.
THE MOVEMENT FOR OR I'M SORRY, REJECT POLICING IS A STREET SAFETY SOLUTION.
MOBILITY, JUSTICE, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE MOVEMENT FOR BLACK LIVES.
OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST A VERY SMALL PORTION OF WHAT I LOOKED AT.
SO. THERE'S MUCH MORE TO THIS VISION ZERO THAN MEETS THE EYE.
IT'S PITCHED AS A NOBLE AND WORTHY CAUSE.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK INTO IT, IT'S MORE IT'S POLITICALLY CHARGED.
AND WHEN YOU SEE THE LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO OWN THE DATA, IT REALLY IS, IN MY MIND, UNCONSTITUTIONAL, AND IT REALLY WILL INFRINGE ON OUR RIGHTS.
SO. I JUST SAW PETE TAKE HIS OATH EARLIER TO THE CONSTITUTION.
I HOPE THAT YOU ALL KEEP THAT IN MIND AND.
NOT GET ANY GRANTS UNDER THIS.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHO LOOKS AT IT AND HOW INVOLVED YOU GUYS REALLY LOOK AT IT OR IF IT JUST GETS PUT FORWARD FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO LOOK AT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE HERE THAN WHAT IS ON THE SURFACE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A RESOLUTION AND IT'S NOT THESE LINKS.
FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING REGARDING THAT? WELL THE LINKS I THINK THAT ZERO NETWORK ULTIMATELY IS.
PERHAPS WHAT WE WERE WHAT SHE'S REFERRING TO AT THIS POINT.
IF YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I CAN ACTUALLY ASK GEORGIANA GILLETTE, WHO IS THE SPACE COAST TPO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
SHE'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEE WHAT? INVITE HER UP, IF YOU LIKE.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
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IT'S NOT JUST THIS PATH.THAT'S JUST ONE PORTION OF IT.
I MEAN, I READ A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTATION TAKING THAT.
APART FROM THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT THAT WAS ATTACHED, I THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS PROVIDED AND THAT'S WHAT I USED TO READ UP ON IT.
I ALSO SAW THERE IS MOBILE APPS THAT PEOPLE CAN REPORT EACH OTHER FOR TRAFFIC AND INFRINGEMENT OR WHATEVER.
EXCUSE ME. THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN MEETS THE EYE.
SO I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT.
AND SO I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING A GRANT UNDER THIS.
BUNCH OF GRANTS TO PUSH THIS THROUGH.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOU WANT TO SPEAK, MA'AM? SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
AND THAT IT WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO MORE CONTROL OF ITS CITIZENS AND.
AND MAKE THEM LESS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS.
OUR STREETS, YOU KNOW, MAKE OUR STREETS SAFE.
YES. YOU KNOW, MAKE IT SMOOTH THE ROADS.
THESE FURTHER AGENDAS LIMIT THE RIGHTS OF YOUR CITIZENS.
I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND ARE YOU MISSING ANNETTE MCCLOY.
GOT IT. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
SO THAT'S IT. SO AT THIS POINT, WE'LL ASK MISS GEORGIANA TO STEP FORWARD.
WHO'S ACTUALLY REQUESTING THIS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I'M GEORGIANA GILLETTE FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, THE DIRECTOR OF THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.
SO IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY GRANTS FOR VISION 0/1, SO WE'RE NOT ON THE HOOK FOR ANYTHING.
BUT I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES ARE 100% PREVENTABLE. AND VISION ZERO, IT'S WE'RE ADOPTING A GOAL, WHICH IS WHAT YOUR RESOLUTION IS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE TPO ADOPTED.
IT INVOLVES ENGINEERING AND EDUCATION.
WE HAVE TO DESIGN OUR ROADS IN A WAY WHERE IT CAN MAKE OUR CITIZENS SAFER.
BUT EDUCATION IS HUGE AS WELL.
THERE IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT AND OF COURSE, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THEY ARE SUCH A WONDERFUL LEADER IN GOING AFTER HIGH VISIBILITY ENFORCEMENT GRANTS AS WELL AS BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND THAT HIGH VISIBILITY ENFORCEMENT GRANT IS FOR SPECIFIC AREAS ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK. SO IT'S DATA DRIVEN.
THEY'RE NOT TARGETING ANY SORT OF GROUP.
AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA PICKS THAT OUT UNDER GOVERNOR DESANTIS.
SO IT IS VERY SPECIFIC, AND THAT IS NOT TO GIVE OUT TICKETS.
IT'S JUST TO EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS.
SO WE'RE ASKING THAT ALL OF OUR CITIES HELP US BECAUSE ADOPTING VISION ZERO, WE REALLY NEED EACH ONE OF OUR CITIES TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE FIVE CITIES SO FAR IN BREVARD COUNTY, AND IT'S REALLY BOTTOM UP, TOP DOWN, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR CITIZENS.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US TO TO GET TO ZERO.
IN 2021, JUST HERE IN PALM BAY, THERE WERE 119 SERIOUS INJURIES.
AND I'M AND I'M TALKING ABOUT INCAPACITATING INJURIES.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM IT.
AND THEN THERE WERE 14 FATALITIES.
AND THIS ISN'T JUST A STATISTIC.
THESE ARE OUR FRIENDS AND OUR FAMILY.
BLESS YOU. AND SO WE THE ONLY THING WE'RE AFTER IS WE DON'T WANT OUR CHILDREN HIT IN SCHOOL ZONES ANYMORE, WHICH A FEW YEARS BACK WE IT'S HAPPENED HERE IN PALM BAY AND IN MELBOURNE, AND THAT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE.
AND SO NOT ONLY IS THIS GOOD FOR SAFETY THAT WE'RE ALL PULLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T GOOD FOR ECONOMICS.
WE REALLY DO OURSELVES A DISSERVICE BY BEING AT THE TOP OF THESE LISTS WITH FLORIDA, THE STATE OF FLORIDA BEING THE NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION FOR FATALITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS.
THE DRILLING DOWN IN TO TO ALL THOSE DIFFERENT LAYERS.
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I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE ARE JUST SUPPORTING THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S GOAL OF ZERO.AND IF WE DO HAVE ANY CITIZENS THAT ARE CONCERNED, THE EPA WOULD LOVE TO COME AND HOLD A FORUM FOR THE CITIZENS TO JUST CHAT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE'RE AFTER AND HOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND HELP.
AND WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR THE CITIZENS HERE TO COME AND SIT DOWN WITH ME AND KIM SMITH, OUR BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY COORDINATOR.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING DOWN THOSE NUMBERS AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN. SO YOU'RE JUST ADOPTING THE GOAL OF ZERO? THERE'S NO FUNDING, NO GRANTS.
AND ANYTHING THAT WE DO, ANY FUNDING THAT WE DO, WHICH IS WHAT OUR OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. AND WORKING WITH THE FLORIDA DOT, IT'S GOING TO BE DATA DRIVEN.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
MS.. GEORGIANNA, I THIS RESOLUTION AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE GOAL OF VISION ZERO, THAT NO LOSS OF LIFE IS ACCEPTABLE ON OUR CITY STREETS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
RIGHT. SO WHEREAS THE GROWTH AND VITALITY OF OUR CITY REQUIRES SAFE AND RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. AND. WHEREAS, THE LIFE AND HEALTH OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS ARE OUR UTMOST PRIORITY.
AND. WHEREAS, VISION ZERO IS THE CONCEPT THAT THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES ON OUR ROADWAYS.
AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECOGNIZES THAT NO ONE SHOULD DIE OR BE SERIOUSLY INJURED WHILE TRAVELING ON OUR CITY STREETS.
WHEREAS, CHILDREN, THE ELDERLY, PEOPLE OF COLOR AND PEOPLE IN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES FACE DISPROPORTIONATE, DISPROPORTIONATE RISK OF TRAFFIC INJURIES AND FATALITIES.
NOW, SEE THERE WE COULD SAY, WHEREAS CHILDREN, THE ELDERLY, PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OR PEOPLE IN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES FACE.
IT COULD BE SAID BECAUSE WE'RE ALL PEOPLE.
RIGHT. SO LISTING THAT WE'RE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE ADDING SEPARATION. WE'RE ALL PEOPLE.
WE SHOULD ALL BE ADHERING TO THIS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST ADDING THAT IS IS KIND OF LIKE CREATING DISSENSION, SO TO SPEAK.
SO THEN I'M PLEASED TO GO ON AND SAY, WHEREAS PEOPLE WALKING BICYCLING REPRESENT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF THESE FATALITIES.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE SPECIFICALLY SAYING THESE FOLKS ARE MORE AT RISK.
RIGHT. AND THEN WHEREAS DRIVER BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING SPEEDING, DISTRACTED DRIVING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE TEXTING IT, I LIKE HOW IT INCORPORATES THAT AND SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THIS LOSS OF LIFE.
AND. WHEREAS, SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION ADOPTED A RESOLUTION ENDORSING VISION ZERO TO ACHIEVE ZERO TRAFFIC DEATHS AND SEVERE INJURIES.
AND. WHEREAS, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS FORMALLY ADOPTED DRIVING DOWN FATALITIES IN ITS OWN VERSION OF THE NATIONAL VERSION OF TOWARDS ZERO DEATHS.
AND YOU SPOKE TO THAT REGARDING GOVERNOR DESANTIS.
CORRECT. AND SO THAT THAT IS THE RESOLUTION, I THINK.
AND I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT FOR THE RECORD.
AND ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT SHOULD BE ALL PEOPLE.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S IN THAT RESOLUTION.
I WILL I WILL TELL YOU, THE TPS RESOLUTION DOES NOT HAVE THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST POINTED OUT. I THINK ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, IT STARTED WITH SMART GROWTH AMERICA, WHICH THEIR CONCERN WAS, IS THAT PERHAPS IN AREAS, THE PLANNING OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, THAT'S CERTAIN GROUPS HAD BEEN LEFT OUT AND THEY WERE MAYBE DOING MORE PLANNING AT MORE IN AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, DISPROPORTIONATE PEOPLE WERE NOT BEING BENEFITED BY IT.
SO THAT WAS IT STARTED WITH SMART GROWTH AMERICA.
AND AND THEN I THINK ON THE CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT LETTERS, IT HAD THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE AS WELL. AND WE SUPPORTED THE VISION ZERO CONCEPT, BUT WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO IN ANY WAY.
YOU CANNOT USE FEDERAL FUNDING, SAFETY FUNDING ON A PROJECT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA SAFETY DATA TO BACK IT UP.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, SIR, AND THAT'S A POINT WELL TAKEN.
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WE ARE ALL PEOPLE.WELL, WE WERE AT THE SAME MEETING WHEN THIS CAME UP AND AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT THE LOWER INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS WERE THE PEOPLE OF COLOR NEIGHBORHOOD PREDOMINANTLY. RIGHT. SO THEN THAT'S WHY IT SHOULD BE PEOPLE IN LOWER INCOME.
AND I KIND OF LIKE THE VERSION THAT THE SPACE COAST TPO CAME UP WITH BECAUSE IT'S NOT DIVIDING. IT'S IT'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, JUST PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHO WE ARE. WE'RE PEOPLE.
AND SOME OF US ARE IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
CERTAINLY, I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING TO TO KIND OF LIKE DIVIDE US.
I BELIEVE WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE ONE.
SO THAT MAKES SENSE. IT MAKES 100% SENSE.
AND AND IF THAT PARTICULAR CLAUSE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OUT AND BUT YOU SUPPORT EVERYTHING ELSE.
GROUPS HAVE ADJUSTED THE GOAL TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY THINK IS NEEDED.
WHAT WE'RE AFTER HERE IS SAVING LIVES FOR THE BREVARD COUNTY RESIDENTS.
SO CAN I ASK YOU THE SPACE COAST TPO VERSION OF THIS RESOLUTION, MA'AM? IS IT IDENTICAL EXCEPT FOR THAT ADJUSTMENT THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED? IT'S A LOT SHORTER.
BUT BUT YES, IT SAYS THE SAME THING EXCEPT FOR THAT.
I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE REALLY SUPPORTING THAT INITIATIVE, BUT I'D LIKE THE SPACE COAST TPO VERSION OR OR, YOU KNOW, JUST ADDING JUST PEOPLE TO THAT AND PEOPLE OF OF LOWER INCOME. YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS REGARDING THAT AS I READ THE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION IN 22 TO 13 WITH THE STRIKING OF PEOPLE OF COLOR. AND I'LL SECOND THAT.
THANK YOU. MAY I SPEAK? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.
SO THIS ITEM WAS TAPED TABLED A WHILE AGO.
AND THEN I TALKED TO MADAME SHERMAN ABOUT BRINGING IT BACK AND JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CORRECT INFORMATION WAS PUT OUT THERE.
I WANTED TO INVITE MR. JANAH TO COME SPEAK AS WELL AS SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SPACE COAST, TPO AND WHAT I'M HEARING.
MS.. MCCLOY AND THOSE FROM YOURSELF IS WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM DIFFERENT LENSES, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, AS IS SHE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, AS IS SHE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE OUR POLICE OFFICERS HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THEIR JOB AS SHE. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT.
WE'RE GOING TO WATCH THIS LIKE A DOG, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THIS.
WE'RE ABOUT HOMEGROWN. THIS IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, DC OR ANY OF THAT.
BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO STAY ENGAGED WITH THE SPACE COAST TPO BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THIS STARTED.
AND IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY PHENOMENAL BECAUSE IT INVOLVES BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND BREVARD LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM ALL ACROSS BREVARD COUNTY, FROM TITUSVILLE, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PALM BAY.
AND OUR INPUT ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY IS SAFER AND WE HAVE BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, MAYOR, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP IN REGARDS TO STRIKING THAT OUT.
AND I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING BY COUNCILMAN OR SECOND BY MAYOR MEDINA.
A DEPUTY MAYOR OR COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK.
THE FIVE CITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN YOU CAN SIT THERE.
I'LL JUST REPEAT THEM ON THE MIC. WHAT ARE THEY? MELBOURNE. MELBOURNE.
ALL RIGHT. SO TWO OF THOSE, AS YOU MENTIONED, HAVE HAVE THOSE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS ON THE AGENDA THERE. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION A COMMENT THAT YOU MADE.
ACCENTS ARE 100% PREVENTABLE, YET THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT INVOLVED WITH ONE OF THOSE CROSSWALKS WITH A PEDESTRIAN BEING HIT.
I MEAN, I REALLY DO. I SUPPORT YOU GUYS 100% USUALLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUPPORT THIS ITEM. ADOPTING THE GOAL OF VISION ZERO THAT NO LOSS OF LIFE IS ACCEPTABLE IN OUR CITY. I DON'T NEED A RESOLUTION FOR THAT AND I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT.
WE AS A CITY ARE GETTING FOR VISION ZERO.
I UNDERSTAND IT WITH SOME GRANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THEN WHEN ALSO WORRIES ME IS WHERE YOU START TALKING ABOUT ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, IT STARTED OFF AS SMART GROWTH
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AMERICA. AND IT TRANSFORMED NOW INTO VISION ZERO.AND MS.. GEORGIANNA, PLEASE COME BACK TO THE MIC, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE HAVING DIALOG HERE.
THANK YOU, SIR. SMART GROWTH AMERICA IS A NONPROFIT.
THAT WAS NOT IT DIDN'T START AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
THEY DID A REPORT BACK IN 2016 CALLED DANGEROUS.
AND SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES.
AND THAT IS HOW THEY DETERMINE THAT FLORIDA WAS NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION IN PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES. AND WE STILL ARE.
SO THEY WERE THE ONES THAT REALLY KIND OF STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING THAT THE PLANNERS AND THE ENGINEERS WERE PLANNING, NOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF THE FATALITIES WERE HAPPENING HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.
AND AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WASN'T THE CASE IN OTHER AREAS.
WE KNOW WHERE THE FATALITIES ARE HAPPENING AND WE KNOW WHERE THE SERIOUS INJURIES ARE HAPPENING. WE ARE LOOKING AT IT ALL THE TIME AND IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE AND IT'S FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
THE MAJORITY OF THE REASON IS DISTRACTED DRIVING.
IT'S A BIG ONE. SO THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING OUR CITIES TO KIND OF BE ON BOARD WITH US IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
WE WE ARE A TPO WITH 19 ELECTED OFFICIALS, ALL FIVE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND 13 COUNCIL MEMBERS AND A PORT COMMISSIONER.
BUT TO FOR THE INDIVIDUAL CITY TO SAY, OKAY, I BUY IN TO THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BRING DOWN THOSE SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES.
WE CAN WE'RE STRONGER IF WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS, WORKING WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PLANNING PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE CONSIDERING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO REDUCE THE FATALITIES OR THE SERIOUS INJURIES.
IT'S SO MANY DIFFERENT PRONGS AND AND LAYERS TO IT.
SO IT DOESN'T PUT YOU ON THE HOOK FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.
WE ARE JUST WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A CULTURE SHIFT, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL THINK THAT THIS IS A STATISTIC.
AND WHEN YOU HEAR IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
THESE ARE OUR FRIENDS AND OUR FAMILY AND WE REALLY YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE MAKES ANYTHING POSSIBLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO ZERO. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
BUT THE FUTURE MAKES EVERYTHING POSSIBLE.
WE TALK ABOUT IT ON THE TPO ALL THE TIME.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, OUR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR FOR YOUR HELP, SO WE CAN BE IN THIS TOGETHER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND I WANT TO VALIDATE WITH COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SAYING AT THE SAME TIME, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, THE VISION IS ZERO.
WHAT WHAT WHAT NUMBER WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO TO A DEATH.
RIGHT. RIGHT. AND AT AN ACCIDENT, YOU KNOW, ONE AND THAT ONE BEING, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY MEMBER. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE I GOT TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE SEE WHAT THAT VISION IS. YOU'RE RIGHT.
NO, IT'S THAT SHOULD BE THE VISION.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S THAT SHOULD BE THE GOAL.
AS THE WORDING VISION ZERO THAT NO LOSS OF LIFE IS ACCEPTABLE IN OUR CITY.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THAT, AND I THINK THE TWO OFFICERS IN UNIFORM HERE WOULD AGREE WITH ME, TOO. YES.
HOWEVER, AND YOU SPOKE OF DISTRACTED, DISTRACTED DRIVING, DISTRACTED, DISTRACTED DRIVERS.
I SEE DISTRACTED PEDESTRIANS? ABSOLUTELY. I'LL BE WITH YOU HERE.
SO I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE TO SIT HERE.
AND I'M SORRY TO KICK THINGS OFF THIS WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD SUPPORT THIS, AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
WELL, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO GO AHEAD, COUNSEL.
I THINK IT'S ONLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
SIMPLY. I MEAN, NO FISCAL IMPACT.
I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO TO STRIVE TO BETTER THINGS, TO TO MAKE IT BETTER, ESPECIALLY WITH COLLABORATION.
RIGHT. SO I CAN'T SEE WHY THERE'S ANY NEGATIVE.
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SHERMAN INVOLVED.MS. GILLARD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO EVEN MAYBE.
YOU KNOW, WORKSHOP OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO MAKE IT KNOWN, HELP GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE PUBLIC. WE WOULD SEE IT AS THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL NEVER AGREE TO THIS.
RIGHT. AND I'M LOOKING AT AN EMAIL.
GOT MY ATTENTION YESTERDAY, DAY BEFORE, ACTUALLY.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I DO READ MY EMAILS WHEN THEY COME FROM THE RESIDENTS.
AND I QUOTE THIS THIS THIS RESIDENT.
I'M NOT FOR USING A PROGRAM THAT OVER OVER TIME ERODES CITIZENS RIGHTS AND FOCUSES ON THE MAJORITY OF IT'S YOU KNOW THE STUDY BASICALLY THE STUDY IT'S SURVEYS DRIVEN.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT SHE SHE MEANT BY THAT.
YOU PRETTY MUCH MAKE IT CLEAR AND THAT'S I WAS VERY EXCITED TO SEE YOU HERE.
AT LEAST YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT TOPIC AS AN EXPERT AND MAKE IT CLEAR TO COUNSEL AND FOR US TO TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE AND WHAT THE TRUE MESSAGE OR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH WOULD VISION ZERO.
THAT SAID, I MEAN, I'LL BE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THAT IF THAT MEANS THAT AS WE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, MAKE OUR ROADS SAFER.
AND THIS IS PERSONAL TO ME, AND I'VE SHARED THAT BEFORE.
ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO, MY WIFE GOT HIT MALABAR ROAD AND IT WAS SOLELY DUE TO A LACK OF LIGHTING. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST THAT BAD.
THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO BRING MORE LIGHTING, BRING ATTENTION TO HOW CAN WE MAKE OUR ROADS SAFER, INCLUDING BETTER LIGHTING, STREET LIGHTING.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT EVERY OPPORTUNITY I GET, I'M TALKING TO OUR STAFF AND TO OUR FELLOW COUNCILMEN.
LET'S LET'S LITTLE OF ALL STREETS, SIDEWALKS, WHATEVER WE CAN DO.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.
THESE ARE A COUPLE OF ASPECTS OF IT.
BUT YES, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, THERE'S A LOT MORE WE CAN DO WORKING TOGETHER AT A LOCAL, LOCAL AND FEDERAL LEVEL.
I'M FULL ON BOARD AND THERE'S NOTHING NEGATIVE THAT COULD POSSIBLY COME OUT OF THIS.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
IT'S A PLEASURE SEEING YOU HERE FROM THE COUNCIL.
SOME OF MY CONCERNS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GLOBAL TAKEOVER.
I ACTUALLY, AS A POLICE OFFICER, ENFORCE TRAFFIC LAWS.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS MYSELF, AND I'VE SEEN HOW TRAFFIC COULD HAVE BEEN TO FATALITIES ON THE ROADWAYS.
AND THAT'S ONE THING YOU EVER DON'T WANT TO EVER GO TO, TO SEE SOMEBODY DEAD IN A CAR OR HIT A TREE OR, YOU KNOW, GOT IN A BAD ACCIDENT OR MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT.
SO WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON MAKING IT SAFE.
WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN.
TO GET IT TO ZERO, AND I BELIEVE WE CAN WITH TECHNOLOGY AND EDUCATION AND WHAT THE TPO IS DOING. BUT HERE'S HERE'S WHERE I.
I HAVE A PROBLEM. AND I WANT TO MAYBE.
BECAUSE I SIT AND LISTEN TO WHAT EVERYBODY SAID.
THINGS THAT I SEE THROUGH IN MY LIFETIME.
EFFECTS. POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IS WHAT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION AND I'M GLAD TO READ IT, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE TO.
FIRST OF ALL, WHO DRAFTED THIS RESOLUTION? DID THE RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, MS..
SHERMAN. I BELIEVE WE PULLED IT FROM, UM.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS THE STATE, BUT WE JUST, I THINK GOOGLED AND THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH IT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
IT WAS PULLED FROM A WEB SITE, SO IT WASN'T A THOUGHT OF RESOLUTION.
THAT PUTS A LITTLE BIT PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IN SECTION THREE WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
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IT, IT'S CITY COUNCIL, DIRECT VISION ZERO SAFETY COMMITTEE TO DEVELOP INSURANCE AGAINST RACIAL PROFILING.OKAY. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH RACIAL PROFILING.
AS IT IS PERTAINED TO VISION ZERO ENFORCEMENT AND TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY OF COLOR.
POLICE AND COMMUNITY LEADERS ARE INCLUDED IN THE DECISION MAKING TO DEVELOP AN ENFORCEMENT PLAN.
THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM.
MY PROBLEM IS COMMUNITY COLOR.
THEY HAVE THE MOST DANGEROUS ROLES IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I THINK THAT THERE ARE THE CITY OF COCOA.
LONG BEFORE VISION ZERO, THERE WERE AREAS IN COCOA WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES. AND WE DID LOOK AT THOSE AREAS TO ENSURE THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS AND THOSE AREAS AGAIN.
I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE DATA.
SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO YOUR TRAFFIC FATALITIES IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN CERTAIN AREAS. THE DATA.
YOUR DATA SHOWED IT WAS IN AREAS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.
HOW HOW IN THE WORLD? I KNEW THAT MAYBE BECAUSE THE COLOR OF MY SKIN, MAYBE BECAUSE WHERE I GREW UP, MAYBE BECAUSE OF MY HISTORY, MAYBE BECAUSE MY BACKGROUND.
BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLACK LIVES MATTER AND MY.
OH, NO, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON WAY BEFORE.
HAS NOTHING. HOW IN THE WORLD THAT IT WAS THAT GOT DRILLED DOWN INTO BLACK LIVES MATTER WEBSITE? I HAVE NO IDEA.
OH. I LIKE DATA BECAUSE DATA DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE.
YEAH. AM I RIGHT? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. NUMBERS DON'T LIE.
SO. I'M FOR THE DATA BECAUSE THE DATA IS GOING TO IS GOING TO GO TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE COLOR. THAT'S WHAT THE DATA IS GOING TO DO.
I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. SURE.
YOU KNOW, I'M ON TAPE AND THEY COULD THEY COULD YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO GO TO PEOPLE OF COLOR. AND I DON'T NEED DATA TO TELL ME THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT.
SO WE COULD STRIKE THIS RACIAL PROFILING.
RACIAL PROFILING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT RESOLUTION LANGUAGE CAME FROM.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THAT'S NOT THE LANGUAGE THAT WE USED WHEN THE TPO ADOPTED VISION ZERO. SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, AND I DON'T THINK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT RACIALLY PROFILED PEOPLE, AND I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO GO TO COMMUNITY OF COLOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH YOUR RESOLUTION BECAUSE JUST DOESN'T THE DATA IS GOING TO SHOW WHERE IS THE PROBLEM THAT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE IN IN VR, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO GET RUN OVER BY A SPEEDING MOTORCYCLE VERSUS.
I'M ALL FLORIDA AVENUE AND JUST THE HEIGHTS.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR SIR, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN PHIL ALBERTO'S COMMENTS AS WELL.
AND AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FELIX.
I THINK WE WERE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BRING UP THOSE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN THE RACIAL PROFILING, I HAD JUST POINTED TO THAT BEFORE YOUR COMMENTS AND I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. BUT I LIKE THE RESOLVE.
EVEN THOUGH I DON'T HAVE THE TPO RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF ME, I AGREE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD WE SHOULD LOOK AT THEIR RESOLUTION SINCE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THIS CAME FROM.
DEPUTY MAYOR, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I WAS SO I HAD ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO DO IS STRIKE OUT OF COLOR WHERE IT SAYS COMMUNITIES.
BUT I'M FINE WITH STRIKING OUT ALL THE SECTION THREE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT ONE.
ONE PERSON OF COLOR OVER ANOTHER.
IT'S ABOUT EVERYBODY COLLECTIVELY.
WHEN WHEN? WHEN THAT BODY HITS THE PAVEMENT, IT BLEEDS THE SAME.
I WAS JUST LOOKING TO STRIKE OUT.
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MEN DIDN'T STRIKE OUT SECTION THREE AND MOVE ON UNLESS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S WAVING US DOWN. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, JUST HEARING THE DISCUSSION.YOU ALL ARE SUPPORTING THE GOAL.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAY THAT YOU ALL ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO CREATE A COMMITTEE.
AND I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE SECTION TWO DOES SAY A VISION ZERO SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL BE FORMED TO ADVISE CITY COUNCIL AND IT GOES ON ABOUT THEIR DUTIES.
IF CERTAINLY IF COUNCIL HAS NO INTENT ON COMMITTEE CREATING A COMMITTEE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT MODIFYING SECTION TWO AS WELL.
SO THEN MR. MAYOR. YES, MR. JANDA, CAN WE.
WHAT I WOULD PREFER TO DO IS GET THE EXACT COPY BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE EXACT COPY. YES.
OKAY. YOU FOLLOW WHERE I'M GOING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION AND MAKE A MOTION.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO. I HAVE TO WITHDRAW MY SECOND.
I WITHDRAW AND I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY FIRST AND MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
OKAY. WAITING FOR MR. JANET PRESENT TO US.
I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S LIKE, DANG, LIKE, DO SOMETHING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
BUT AT LEAST WE'VE HAD THIS DIALOG NOW.
BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS IN THE FORESIGHT THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE US THE EXACT. ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. AND WE NEED A SECOND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE.
THANKS FOR COMING AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO JOIN US AGAIN.
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR LEADERSHIP.
I GOT A MOTION BY JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MEDINA.
NOT ALL IN FAVOR HIGH ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE BILL BATTEN.
RESOLUTION. 2022 DASH 14 A RESOLUTION THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA,
[5. Resolution 2022-14, authorizing the submission of a grant application to the FloridaInland Navigation District (FIND) for the purchase of a marine safety patrol vessel.]
AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY NEGOTIATE AN EXECUTE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT TO SECURE A WATERWAY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GRANT FOR A MARINE PATROL VESSEL PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR.
BUT BUILT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME THIS EVENING AND THEY WERE ABLE TO PRESENT ME WITH THE VESSEL THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, WHICH MADE ME FEEL VERY HAPPY.
I'M IN I WAS LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF SOUNDS, TERRIBLE COMBATANT VESSEL THAT CAN ACCOMPLISH LOTS OF OBJECTIVES WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WATER SOURCES HERE WITHIN PALM BAY.
AND THEY PRESENTED THE VESSEL THEY GAVE ME, SHOWED ME PICTURES OF THE VESSEL I WAS LOOKING AT. AND BEFORE THEY SHOWED IT TO HER, I SAID, THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
THIS IS WHAT I HOPE MY POLICE DEPARTMENT GETS.
AND SURE ENOUGH, IT WAS IT WAS A DROP FRONT VESSEL THAT CAN DRIVE UP, DRIVE ON THE BEACH AND DEPLOY TROOPS AND ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT WITHIN AN EMERGENCY.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I REALLY FELT GOOD ABOUT IT WAS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A DOVE TEAM AND WE HAD TO BORROW BOATS TO SEND OUT OUR DOVE TEAM.
I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE, LOOK, I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WAGON, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY HORSES TO PULL IT. ISN'T THAT GREAT? YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T IT DIDN'T MAKE IT.
NOW WE HAVE IT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE A CAPTAIN TO DRIVE THE BOAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE FIRST MATE TO DRIVE THE BOAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE OKAY WITHOUT WITHOUT BEING SAID.
BUT YOU NEEDED THE VESSEL AND THE MECHANISMS TO GET TO GET IT EVERYWHERE.
IT'S GOT TO GO WITH THE TROOP, WITH THE MECHANISMS TO GET THE MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
AND THIS IS GOING TO DO THAT, PLUS THE FACT THEY'RE ABLE TO KNOCK OFF SOME OF THE ORIGINAL COST.
WELL, NOT THE ORIGINAL COST, BUT THE AMOUNT OUT OF MY CITY'S FUNDING SOURCE.
SO THAT WAS GOOD TO GET THE GRANT FOR THAT.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS THING AROUND, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO START COMING IN AND SOME OF THE WATERFRONTS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF AND YOUR NAVAL EXPERIENCE.
A MOTION MOTION APPROVED RESOLUTION 2020 214.
I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
GENTLEMEN, I GOT TO TELL YOU, WITH THE HOPES.
OF WHAT? THAT PROPERTY THAT WE SOLD, MR. TIMMONS DEVELOPING OUT THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO WELCOME SOME BOATS OUT THERE AND CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME. I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL ONE DAY BE A THRIVING PART OF OUR CITY.
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AND SO WE'RE JUST PREPARING THE WAY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE BOAT TRAFFIC OUT THERE, THEN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL BE ABLE TO HIT THE BEACH.AND AND, AS MR. CHIEF SAYS, DEPLOY AND TAKE TAKE ACTION.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING AND MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[11. Consideration of a purchase offer for Bayfront CRA-owned surplus real estatelocated at 1582 Water Drive NE from buyer Palm Bay Landings LLC ($192,000).]
BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST.2017, THEY HAD A PURCHASE PRICE OF $33,000, WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD PURCHASE PRICE.
BUT BATMAN BEING THE WAY HE IS, WHY DO WE EVEN SPEND ANY MONEY TO BUY TO BUY LAND IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? BUT THEN THEY GET INTO VALUATION FROM 33000 TO 330000, WHICH LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD TURNAROUND ON THE DOLLAR, IF I GOT THAT.
BUT THEN THE ACTUAL OFFER TO BUY THE LAND ONLY COMES IN AT 192,000.
SO THAT LOOKS TO ME LIKE A LOSS OF 138,000 OF POTENTIAL FUNDING THAT WE COULD HAVE.
NOW, ME BEING THE IDIOT THAT I AM, I'M LOOKING.
WELL, WHY ARE WE GOING TO SELL THAT? WE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT WE HAD TO SPEND FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION, BUT YOU'RE NOT HOLDING OUT FOR THE MAXIMUM SALE YOU COULD GET OF THE LAND.
SO REMEMBER, LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION DETERMINES THE VALUE OF THE LAND, AND THIS LOCATION WARRANTS IT BASED ON THE SAME APPRAISAL OF WHAT THE VALUE WAS OF THE LAND OF 333,000. SO WHY ARE WE CONSIDERING EVEN CONSIDERING AN OFFER OF 192,000? THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THE SPEAKER CARD.
I'LL ASK NANCY BUNT, OUR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, TO COME UP AND PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS PARCEL AND THE OFFER WE RECEIVED.
EVENING. NANCY BRYANT, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
AND THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE BAYFRONT CRA.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY A TWO STORY BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THE 33,000, WHICH IS WHAT THE VELMA VAN GORDER KEY AND TERENCE HILL PURCHASED, THE PROPERTY WAS JUST FOR THE LAND.
THEN THEY BUILT A BUILDING ON IT.
THE THERE WAS AN APPRAISAL THAT WAS COMPLETED BEFORE THE BAYFRONT SERA PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FEBRUARY 1ST, 2017, AND THAT APPRAISAL VALUED THE PROPERTY AT $430,000.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION WITH THE CRA.
THERE WAS THE BUILDING HAD DETERIORATED.
THERE WAS ALSO SOME ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY.
SO THE CRA OFFERED 330,000 AND THAT WAS THE PURCHASE PRICE.
SO THE CITY STAFF REQUESTED BENSON APPRAISALS TO COMPLETE AN APPRAISAL, WHICH THEY CONDUCTED DECEMBER 23RD, 2021, AND THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS 192,000.
SO THAT IS WHAT THE BUYER HAS PROPOSED IS THE APPRAISED VALUE 192,000.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? I FOSTER HOW MANY OFFERS? WE HAD FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE ONLY OFFER AND IT'S BEEN UP FOR SALE FOR HOW LONG? WE NOVEMBER 3RD.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT MR. TIMMINS IS BUYING THIS PROPERTY.
AND HE BOUGHT HE PURCHASED NUMEROUS OTHER PROPERTIES FOR ABOVE ASKING VALUE.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, THAT PROPERTY WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT AT THE MARINA.
HE WAS HE'S IN TEXAS, SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO COME TO THIS MEETING.
BUT THE SIERRA, HE HAD MENTIONED THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY ASSEMBLING SOME LAND THERE AND ALSO IS YOUR PURCHASER FOR THE PELICAN HARBOR MARINA.
SO IN THE GRAND SCHEME, YES, WE'RE ABOVE.
CORRECT. AND I DO I DO BELIEVE THAT MR. TIMMINS IDEA FOR THE MASTER PLAN THAT HE WANTS TO DO FOR THE BAYFRONT AREA.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I SUPPORTED THIS BILL AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT TODAY.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE CONTRACT FOR THE CRA OWNED SURPLUS REAL ESTATE GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1582 WATER DRIVE NORTHEAST SECOND.
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
STARTING TO GET TO KNOW THE VOICE.
BUT I STILL NEED A LIGHTING MECHANISM UP HERE SO I CAN TELL WHO NEEDS TO SPEAK.
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WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, MY HEAD'S ON A SWIVEL UP HERE. JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.SIR, AGAIN, SIR, YOU DONE A GOOD JOB AT IT.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[12. Consideration of designating certain Bayfront CRA-owned properties as surplus realestate available for sale to the public.]
LET'S PUT THAT WITH THEM. SO THEY'RE NO SPEAKER CARS, JUST FOR THE RECORD, NO SPEAKER GA CARDS ON ITEM 12.WE STILL GOT TO PASS IT. OKAY, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS. ESSENTIALLY, WE HAVE THREE SMALL PARCELS ALONG ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LIST AS SURPLUS.
AND THEY'RE IN THE BAYFRONT AREA.
THE MIKE. THE MIKE BROTHER OR COUNCILWOMAN SORT.
I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO BE A MOUND OF SAND THERE THAT'S ON THE CITY PROPERTY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS THE CITY DOESN'T NEED THAT MOUND OF SAND OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT MOUND OF SAND.
THANK YOU, SIR. YES, I'M I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING INTO THAT WITH STAFF TO FIND OUT WHOSE MOUND OF SAND THAT IS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS ACTION WOULD JUST ALLOW US TO LIST THE PROPERTIES AS SURPLUS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TIME TO ADDRESS THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE OFF OF THERE.
KIM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I NEED A MOTION COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIST OF THE BAYFRONT SERRA OWNED SURPLUS COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AVAILABLE FOR SALE TO PUBLIC.
SECOND AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? IN ALL IN FAVOR.
BILL BURTON. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MESSING UP YOUR TIME ON NUMBER 12.
[13. Consideration of accepting the 2021 Annual Reports from L3Harris Technologiesand Midwest Dental Arts for the City's Ad Valorem Tax Abatement Program.]
THANK YOU. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
ALL I'VE HEARD FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS INDUSTRIAL, IS WHAT WILL LOWER THE TAX RATE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
HERE WE ARE WITH AN ORGANIZATION GETTING TEN YEARS OF 100% TAX ABATEMENT OF THEIR MONEY. THIS YEAR ALONE, THAT WAS ALMOST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAN IF YOU ADD IN THE DENTAL WORK. WE'RE UP TO A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WOULD HAVE COME INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO PAY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY A YEAR? SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF.
FIGURING WHICH WAS A BAD MISTAKE ON ME BECAUSE I WORE OUT MY FINGERS ON A CALCULATOR.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY LAST YEAR HAD ROUGHLY $35 MILLION AD VALOREM TAX.
JUST THINK WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE IF WE WOULD HAVE ADDED THAT OTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. THINK OF THE FIRE TRUCK THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BOUGHT.
THINK OF ALL THE OTHER CAPITAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE KEPT SAYING WE DIDN'T HAVE.
AND THEY SAID, YEAH, BILL. BUT LOOK AT ALL THE LOOK AT ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT NOW LIVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I PROMISE YOU, L3 HARRIS EMPLOYEES ARE NOT THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.
THE AVERAGE EMPLOYEE IN PALM BAY.
HARRIS IS PAYING GREATER THAT THEY'RE NOT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING IN PALM BAY.
THEY ARE LIVING BEACHSIDE AND INCREASING THEIR TAX REVENUE BASE.
THAT BEING SAID, JUST REMEMBER THAT THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE SAY WE DON'T HAVE THAT IT WAS THE VOTE OF THE COUNCIL THAT SAYS EVEN THOUGH WE PUT THE ROAD IN FOR THIS COMPANY, WHICH WAS THE CITY DID.
THAT THE NO TAX REVENUE IS ACTUALLY HURTING THE CITY.
MAYBE IN TEN YEARS THAT $5 MILLION WOULD HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL TO US.
JUST REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET PETER TO PAY PAUL.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S THE LOW INCOME THAT ENDS UP HAVING TO PAY THE MOST.
MADAM SHERMAN. CERTAINLY, MAYOR.
SO THE AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENTS OR EXEMPTION PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THE CITY HAS HAD FOR
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MANY YEARS. WE HAVE TWO ACTIVE COMPANIES WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM.ONE IS MR. BOUGHTON MENTIONED IS L-3 HARRIS, THE OTHER IS MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS.
THE ONE FOR ALL THREE HEROES WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2011 IN THE MIDWEST.
DENTAL ARTS ITEM WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2018.
SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS A TOOL THAT COUNCIL STILL HAS IN THE TOOLBOX, AND WE ACTUALLY UPDATED OUR ORDINANCE ON THE PROGRAM LAST YEAR.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROMOTE INCREASED GROWTH IN THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR.
AND SO IT ABSOLUTELY DOES COME WITH A VARIETY OF CRITERIA.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF A BUSINESS WANTS TO MOVE INTO THE CITY AND ADD JOBS, CERTAIN HIGH WAGE EARNING TYPE JOBS, OR IF A BUSINESS WANTS TO EXPAND AND BUILD ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE TYPE THING, THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO QUALIFY FOR AN AD VALOREM EXEMPTION.
MR. BOUGHTON IS CORRECT. IT DOES HAVE A REDUCTION IN HOW MUCH WHEN THEY ADD VALUE TO THE CITY'S TAX ROLL.
THERE IS A CALCULATION FOR REDUCTION IN THEIR THE PROPERTY TAXES, SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THAT FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
IT IS A TOOL IN YOUR TOOLBOX FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE WAY WE'VE CHANGED THE OUT OF LAWN PROGRAM MORE RECENTLY LAST YEAR WAS TO AVOID A SITUATION WHERE A BUSINESS GETS 100% ABATEMENT FOR LIKE A FULL TEN YEAR PERIOD.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO MAYBE DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING, TO BRING THEM IN, BUT THEN TO RATHER QUICKLY START TO KNOCK IT DOWN 90%, 80%, WHATEVER, TO BEGIN TO RECOUP THAT THAT TAX VALUE.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST VERY HIGH LEVEL.
THERE'S MORE TO THE PROGRAM, ACTUALLY.
THE TEAM CAN TALK THROUGH IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT, BUT.
IF THIS COUNCIL APPROVES IT, I WANT I'D LIKE FOR US TO SEND A LETTER TO TO L3 HARRIS IN PARTICULAR TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WILL BE UNTIL 2026.
JUST, YOU KNOW, BREAK IT DOWN TO THEM, KIND OF LIKE CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF PALM AND AND PUTTING IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP, SO TO SPEAK TO SO THAT THEY SEE THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND KIND OF LIKE HIGHLIGHT THAT I'D LIKE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO ENTERTAIN THAT ALSO WITH EMOTION SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP, NUMBER ONE.
BUT NUMBER TWO, LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S COSTING THE CITY AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE INVESTING IN YOUR COMPANY, RIGHT? JUST AS A REMINDER, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY, COUNSEL.
MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE 2021 ANNUAL REPORTS FOR THE CITY'S AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM FROM L3 HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES AND MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS, AS CERTIFIED BY THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER AND GIVE THE MAYOR THE CONDITIONS TO SIGN A LETTER TO L3, HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES AND MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS INFORMING THEM ON THE BENEFITS AND PROCEDURALLY WHAT THEY'LL BENEFIT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEAR, FOUR YEARS.
I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION WITH THAT GENTLEMAN? MR. MAYOR, JUST WANTED TO FILIBERTO I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF AN ANNUAL REPORT. THERE IS NO FURTHER ACTION.
THIS IS JUST. THAT IS CORRECT FROM THAT.
THANK YOU. THEY GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY MEDINA AND HE FURTHER DISCUSSION BEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER 18 RANDOLPH CHAYEFSKY.
YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. SORRY, RANDALL.
AS YOU WERE. ITEM 16, BILL BATTEN.
[16. Consideration of an agreement with the Florida Institute of Technology for the use ofCity property for drone education and research.]
CLEAN SLATE. I LIKE IT.RIGHT. SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THE WORKING WITH FLORIDA TECH.
AND THERE'S A PLUS AND A MINUS WITH EVERYTHING.
AND IF YOU KNOW BILL BATTEN, I ALWAYS GO FOR THE MINUS INSTEAD OF THE PLUS.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY MY MIND WORKS.
MY GLASS IS ALWAYS HALF EMPTY.
SO THE PROPERTY FOR THIS TRAINING FACILITY IS RS TO RESIDENTIAL.
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SO I DID MY RESEARCH AND I FIND OUT THAT UNDER G ONE THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE PRIVATE SCHOOL AND EDUCATION ON RS.TWO, ZONING. SO THEY'RE NOT IN ANY VIOLATION, WHICH MEANS WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO ANY LAND MASS CHANGING.
RIGHT. BUT CURRENTLY ALREADY HAPPENING OUT IN THE COMPOUND FROM OTHER INSTITUTIONS IS THEY'RE HAVING THE ANTENNA TRACKING VEHICLES THAT ARE COMING IN WHERE THEY'RE DRIVING THEM ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY BECAUSE I'M ME BEING THE PERSON THAT I AM WHEN I SEE SOMETHING I'M WILLING TO CONFRONT AND ASK.
SO I ASK THEM, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? AND IT'S, IT'S HARRIS CORPORATION AND SOME OF THE OTHER THEY'RE DOING TRACKING WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR PORTABLE ANTENNA SYSTEMS THEY'RE PUTTING UP SO THEY CAN USE THE ROADS AND SET THEIR ANTENNAS AND STUFF UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OF THE STREETS THROUGHOUT IN THE COMPOUND AREA. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING IT.
AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A CONTRACT FOR THAT BECAUSE I BROUGHT THIS BEFORE.
SO THAT LEAVES ME WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE, WE'RE GOING WITH THIS AGREEMENT WITH FIT TO INCREASE THE CITY'S TAX BASE, TOO.
WILL THIS PROMOTE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY IN THE COMPOUND, WHICH THE CITY KEEPS SAYING THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC RECREATION SITE.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE FLYING DRONES.
NUMBER THREE, HOW DO YOU PREVENT THEM FROM FLYING OVER THE HOUSING AREAS THAT'S OUT THERE, RIGHT. THAT ARE NEXT TO THE COMPOUND, I.E.
BILL BARTON'S HOUSE? RIGHT. WELL, WILL THIS BE FIXED WING DRONES WHICH REQUIRE THE LANDING STRIPS IF IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THE LANDING STRIP? SO THEY CONSIDERING LANDING THESE DRONES ON THE PUBLIC ON THE PUBLIC STREETS.
IT'S GREAT TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT WHAT IS THE REAL PLAN OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING OUT THERE? AND CURRENTLY FIT IS ALREADY USING THE COMPOUND AREA WHERE THEY'RE FLIGHT TRAINING AREAS FOR THEIR AIR, FOR THEIR FIXED WING AIRCRAFT.
THEY'RE USING THAT. THEY'RE FLYING LOW ALTITUDE.
YOU SEE THEM OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.
YOU CAN IDENTIFY THEIR PLANES BY THEIR BY THEIR MAROON WINGTIPS.
THAT IS THE AREA FROM WHICH THEY'RE CURRENTLY FLYING.
SO BILL BATTEN BEING THE IDIOT HE IS, I SEE THE SAME KID WITH THE JOYSTICK ON THIS DRONE SAYING, WATCH THIS. I'M GOING TO CHASE THE I'M GOING TO CHASE THE PLANE DOWN NOW BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY GOT TWO IN-FLIGHT OBJECTIVES.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE MANNER WITH WHICH.
BILL BATTEN BECAUSE MY GLASS IS ALWAYS HALF EMPTY, ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS.
THEY'RE ALREADY DOING, DOING THE STUFF OUT THERE.
OTHER COMPANIES ARE ALREADY DOING IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED THIS EXTRA CONTRACT EITHER.
ALLOW IT. THE ACTIVITY IN THE COMPOUND OR DON'T ALLOW THE ACTIVITY IN THE COMPOUND.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, IT IS THE FIRST ONE OF ITS KIND.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE ARE TRYING TO FORMALIZE A LITTLE BIT MORE SOME OF THE USAGE OUT THERE.
MR. BATTEN IS CORRECT. I'VE BECOME AWARE OF SOME COMPANIES THAT ARE TESTING OUT THERE FROM TIME TO TIME.
TYPICALLY, THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO US AND REQUESTED PERMISSION TO GO OUT THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPER INSURANCE COVERAGE.
WE HAVE SORT OF VERY CLEAR EXPECTATIONS OF WHERE THEY CAN BE IN THE COMPOUND.
SO IN THIS CASE, FLORIDA TECH CAME TO US BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A PROGRAM TO TRAIN STUDENTS ON HOW TO BUILD AND USE DRONES, ESSENTIALLY.
AND SO THEY HAD APPARENTLY FOR SOME YEARS PAST, ACTUALLY GONE OUT THERE PERIODICALLY, BUT THEY ASKED FOR A FORMAL AGREEMENT SO THAT THERE COULD BE SPECIFIC PARCELS THEY WOULD BE OPERATING ON. THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE ROADS.
ALSO, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE UNSUPERVISED.
SO THIS IS CLASSROOM FIELD EXPERIENCE ESSENTIALLY.
SO THEY WILL BE OUT THERE WITH INSTRUCTORS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE VERY CLEAR WITH THEM ABOUT, REGARDING THEM FLYING OVER HOUSES. THEY DO KNOW THEY HAVE TO RESPECT THE AREA OUT THERE.
SO CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL REMIND THEM OF.
I'M NOT AWARE OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF WHAT KINDS OF UNMANNED VEHICLES THAT WILL BE FLYING IN THE AIR. SO I'D HAVE TO GET MORE DETAIL ON THAT, BUT THEY SHOULD NOT BE USING THE ROADWAYS FOR LANDING STRIPS.
AND THE OTHER TWO QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE, WERE, DOES THIS INCREASE THE TAX BASE? NO, THIS IS JUST A TEMPORARY USE AGREEMENT.
WE CAN CANCEL THE ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM AT ANY TIME.
AND WE WANTED THAT IN THERE, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A TIME WHEN WE ARE READY TO START SELLING THE PARCELS IN THE COMPOUND, HOPEFULLY SOON, AND WE WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF IT. AND OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL USE OUT IN THE COMPOUND. OUR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AS THEY HAVE BEEN WILL CONTINUE.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA INSTITUTE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE USE OF CITY
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PROPERTY FOR DRONE EDUCATION RESEARCH.I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY FOSTER COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.
JUST WANTED TO ASK MS.. SHERMAN, DO WE HAVE A PROPERTY IN MIND THAT IFIT IS GOING TO USE? I BELIEVE SOME OF THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY THERE IS ON SAN ANDREAS AND I WANT TO SAY MADDEN, BUT THAT COULD BE FURTHER WEST.
SURE THERE ARE SPECIFIC PARCELS INCLUDED.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE IN THE AREA OF RATH RATHBURN OR ROTHWELL, AND I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE MAP, BUT THEY'RE A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM SOME OF THE NORMAL, OR I SHOULD SAY, THE MORE WELL TRAVELED AREAS.
SO LET ME LOOK AT THE MAP HERE.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE CONTAINED TO ONE AREA OF THE PROPERTY OR THEY CAN BE ABLE TO SAY THE CITY OWNS FOUR OR FIVE PROPERTIES.
THEY CAN USE ANY ONE OF THOSE FIVE PROPERTIES OR THEY CAN ONLY USE ONE PROPERTY OF THOSE FIVE PROPERTIES. OKAY.
THEY'VE ONLY BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION TO USE THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS AND THOSE ARE KIND OF CIRCLED ON THE MAP.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ, BUT ONE IS NEAR ROSWELL.
AND THE OTHER IS A NAME I CANNOT ACTUALLY SEE ON THE MAP.
BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY FURTHER TO THE WEST IN THE COMPOUND, KIND OF ON THE FARTHEST EDGE.
AND THEY ARE NORTH OF THERE, SOUTH OF WELL SOUTH OF BOMBARDIER AND NORTH OF SAINT ANDRE.
THAT HELPS. COUNCILMAN FELIX SHOWED ME THE MAP HERE.
THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN. JUST.
JUST GOING TO TO BILL'S CONCERN ABOUT CONTAINMENT IN AN AREA I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS CONTAINED. I MEAN, THE TECHNO ROBOT PLAYS THE TECHNO ROBOT LAB ON US.
ONE HAS A HUGE NET AT THERE AND THEY DEAL WITH DRONES.
I'M EXPECTING A NET TO BE OUT THERE, BUT I DO WANT SOME TYPE OF CONTAINMENT TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, THIS IS HOW THE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY WAS CREATED.
I MEAN, SOME GUYS IN A DORM ROOM WERE MIXING UP CHEMICALS AND EVENTUALLY MADE ROCKET FUEL. SO I WANT TO I WANT TO GET THOSE CREATIVE JUICES FLOWING FOR FOR FIT AND DRONE EDUCATION AND RESEARCH.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? OUR MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 18 AND OLSAVSKY.
[18. Consideration of a modification to the capital expenditure for Fiscal Year 2021/2022Police marked patrol vehicles.]
THANK YOU. OKAY.GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL CHAYEFSKY.
RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOK EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST.
SO I STAND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
NOT ONLY PALM BAY PROUD, BUT I MIGHT SAY BEFORE THAT, LET'S JUST SAY EQUAL.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM.
SO THE CORE OF THIS ITEM 18 IS THAT WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN FINDING FUNDS TO PURCHASE POLICE VEHICLES, WHICH IS GREAT.
BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS WITH, IN MY HUMBLE CITIZEN OPINION, THE WRONG COMPANY.
STELLANTIS FLEET AND STELLANTIS FLEET HAS ABANDONED THE CITY OF PALM BAY ALONG WITH THEIR OTHER COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, AND STOPPED MAKING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN THE INTEREST OF RETAIL VEHICLES.
BUT A DOMESTIC COMPANY WOULDN'T DO THAT.
STELLANTIS IS A FOREIGN OWNED ENTITY NOW.
AMERICAN COMPANY LIKE FORD MOTOR COMPANY PRIORITIZES THEIR FLEET VEHICLES.
THEY PRIORITIZE THEIR POLICE ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES.
THEY PRIORITIZE THEIR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES TO THE POINT THAT THERE IS A BUSINESS UNIT OF FORD MOTOR COMPANY SIMPLY CALLED FORD PRO, THAT HAS AN ALL ENCOMPASSING APPROACH TO FLEET MANAGEMENT. SO AS WE EMBARK AND WE DO PURCHASE THESE SEVEN NEW FORD POLICE INTERCEPTOR UTILITIES, AS THEY'RE REFERRED TO, FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT KNOW, THEY'RE BASED ON THE EXPLORER, BUT THEY ARE NOT CALLED AN EXPLORER.
THEY ARE THE POLICE INTERCEPTOR UTILITY.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE BEGINNING A JOURNEY IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH FORD MOTOR COMPANY AND FORD MOTOR COMPANIES.
HORIZONS ARE BRIGHT, MR. MAYOR, AND THEY'RE BRIGHT CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO SUSTAINABILITY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLICE INTERCEPTOR, ALREADY HAS A HYBRID VERSION THAT IS RATED.
AND I'LL CORRECT YOU, MR. MAYOR, YOU SAID WE NEED FAST VEHICLES.
THE HYBRID VERSION IS RATED AT A HIGHER PURSUIT SPEED THAN THE GAS OPTION WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH. BUT THAT'S OKAY. THESE WILL SUFFICE WITH THE 3.3 LITER V6 ENGINE.
THE FUTURE FOR FORD MOTOR COMPANY IS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN ELECTRIC, SO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY VENTURED INTO FORD PRO AND LOOKED INTO PURCHASING FORD LIGHT, FORD F-150 LIGHTNING PRO MODELS FOR THEIR THEIR VARIOUS BUILDING NEEDS.
USE THIS NOW TO COURSE CORRECT.
LET'S GET OUT OF THE STELLANTIS WATERS.
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LET'S SPEND A FEW EXTRA DOLLARS.MR. BUTCH HERE SAID WE'RE IN A CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY, RIGHT? YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, SO LET'S SPEND A FEW EXTRA DOLLARS.
LET'S CONVERT OUR FLEET ENTIRELY TO FORD VEHICLES AND LET'S HAVE THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN OFFER.
THERE'S ONLY TWO NEW CAR VEHICLE DEALERS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THAT FORD DEALER CAN NOT ONLY SERVE AS VEHICLES BY JUST COMING DOWN MALABAR ROAD FROM THE FLEET DEPARTMENT, THAT FORD DEALER ALSO OFFERS MOBILE SERVICE.
IF WE HAD A POLICE VEHICLE DOWN SOMEWHERE IN OUR STREETS, THEY COULD GO SERVICE IT RIGHT THERE FOR THEM IF FLEET COULDN'T HANDLE IT.
THERE IS SO MANY ADVANTAGES TO DOING BUSINESS WITH FORD MOTOR COMPANY THAT I AM SO EXCITED THAT WE HAVE BEEN FORCED INTO THIS CORNER AND IT WILL SHOW US THE LIGHT, THE BRIGHT LIGHT, THE BRIGHT BLUE LIGHT THAT FORD HAS TO SHINE.
AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE FROM PROCUREMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS LISTENING TO ME.
AND LET'S SEE THOSE BIDS FROM THE ONLY FULLY FAMILY AMERICAN AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURER OF THE BIG THREE FORD MOTOR COMPANY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. IF YOU DON'T OWN STOCK IN FORD, SON, YOU MUST GO OUT.
RANDALL, I WILL SAY THIS, THOUGH.
I RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MADAM SHERMAN, AND THERE ARE THERE ARE AT LEAST PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO US.
AND I'VE ASKED FOR A COST ANALYSIS TO SEE HOW THAT CAN PLAY OUT, TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT RANDLE SPEAKS OF, THE SERVICES, THE OIL CHANGE, EVERYTHING DONE HERE LOCALLY.
SO I THINK SHE'S GOING TO WORK ON THAT.
JUST THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND I THINK WE MIGHT FIND SOME COST SAVINGS IF IF IT PROVES TO BE.
BUT I DID SHARE THAT WITH MADAM SHERMAN, AND I HOPE WE COULD GET THOSE NUMBERS SO WE COULD AT LEAST KEEP THAT IN THE FOREFRONT.
RIGHT. KEEP OUR NEWER VEHICLE, NEWER VEHICLES.
WE'RE JUST PUTTING A LOT OF MILES ON THESE VEHICLES AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
SO TAKING CARE OF THE VEHICLES AND THEN JUST LEASING THEM OUT AND REPLACING THEM, SEE HOW THAT CAN PLAY OUT. RIGHT.
SO ANYWAY, I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE CHANGING THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE OF THE REMAINING SEVEN MARKED PATROL VEHICLES TO FORD INTERCEPTOR.
SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY DISCUSSIONS, GENTLEMEN, JUST REAL QUICK.
LAST COUNCIL MEETING, RANDALL, YOU AND I LOCKED EYES WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 200 MILES THAT THEY USE ON AVERAGE AND EVERYTHING, WHICH, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THESE VEHICLES, THE VEHICLES YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, NOT THESE RIGHT HERE, BUT THE VEHICLES YOU'RE SPEAKING OF CAN HANDLE THAT EASILY.
HANDLE THAT EASILY. SO I'M DEFINITELY I'M I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF EVENTUALLY GOING THAT ROUTE. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT DEFINITELY IN REGARDS TO THE ELECTRIC AND HYBRID VEHICLES THAT CAN.
AND ALL THE STREETS AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS ARE SAFE AND SECURE AS WELL AS OUR CITIZENS. SO, YEAH, THAT'S ALL.
MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.
WHY? ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE LISTEN BEFORE WE GET ON THIS UNFINISHED OLD BUSINESS, I WANT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
AND WE ARE AN UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I MAKE A MOTION APPOINT BENJAMIN ZENKO AND JAMES BROCK TO THE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS PENSION BOARD OF TRUSTEES.KEY SKILL. I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ALL IN FAVOR. HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER TWO. DEPUTY MAYOR I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT LISA JACKSON TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTING THE AT-LARGE POSITION.
SO I CAN. WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
IS. IS BEN WANTING TO COME SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I'LL BE THAT IS LISA JACKSON HERE? WE'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
[NEW BUSINESS]
MS.. SHERMAN, YOU PRESENT THIS ITEM? CERTAINLY I CAN, AND I'LL DEFER TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER.[02:20:01]
SO AT A PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCILMAN FOSTER ASKED AND COUNCIL GAVE CONSENSUS FOR US TO LOOK AT A POTENTIAL DO A MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY AT VETERANS PARK.WE'VE PROVIDED WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH STAFF IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR DETAILS COUNCIL MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ON BUT ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PREDICT AT THIS MOMENT WHAT TYPE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE.
SO PART OF THIS PROCESS IS TO APPLY FOR EQUIPMENT TO A CERTAIN CATEGORY AND THEN TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD WOULD OFFER TO US.
AND WE'VE GIVEN YOU A VERY BALLPARK ESTIMATED COST FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE COULD BE SOME OF WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO SET ASIDE TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE A PLACE FOR THIS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION.
WE WOULD NEED TO PREPARE A PLACE, CONCRETE PAD, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE DETAILS ARE INCLUDED.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A QUICK HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, I HAVE OUR ACTING PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR PETER BURKHART IS HERE AND I'LL DEFER TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER AS WELL.
SUZANNE. I THOUGHT ABOUT OUR VETERAN COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT AND I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF CITIES, VETERAN PARKS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, AND OUR VETERAN PARKS IS REALLY LACKING.
WE GOT A SMALL STATUE AND WE HAVE FLAGS.
SO I WANTED SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTED THE VETERANS AND PALM BAY AND PALM BAY.
THANK GOD WE GOT A VETERAN CLINIC NOW AND OUR COMMUNITY IS JUST GOING TO GROW.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY VETERAN MEMORIAL PARK, THEY HAD ALL.
IT'S LIKE WE GO IN THE WATER, PLANES AND TANKS AND EVERYTHING.
BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE THAT.
BUT I'M ALSO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS HAVE SOME STATIC OF USE MILITARY EQUIPMENT THAT WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP.
I DON'T THINK WE OWN IT RIGHT.
WE WON'T OWN IT. I THINK WE WILL.
WE HAVE TO UPKEEP IT, MAKE IT.
WE CAN'T LET IT RUST AND GET IT ALL WORN OUT.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO UPLIFT THAT PARK.
IF SOMETHING'S GOING TO PUT THAT PARK ON THE MAP AND HAVE VETERANS AND PALM BAY TO JUST REFLECT ON THEIR SERVICE.
AND AND I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, MAYOR HONORED THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SACRIFICED DURING THE TIME OF SERVICE OUT OF PALM BAY TO PUT UP A LOCK OF MEMORIAL WALL ALONG WITH THAT STATUS, THAT STATIC EQUIPMENT.
IT COULD BE A TANK, IT COULD BE A PLANE, IT COULD BE ARTILLERY.
IT CAN'T BE AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER OR A DESTROYER OR SUB, BUT IT MIGHT BE AN AIR FORCE FIGHTER JET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO. I THINK IT'S WORTH THE INVESTMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE A A PAD TO HOUSE THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT ON.
YOU JUST CAN'T PUT IT IN THE GROUND BUT RUINED THE PARK.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
WELL, I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET YOUR VISION ON WHAT YOU SAW OUT THERE.
BECAUSE JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW.
I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROCESS FROM FROM WHAT I DO AND THE REQUESTS OF A TANK AND THE WHOLE NINE THAT COULD COME TO PASS.
BUT THE TRANSPORTATION FOR A TANK, I CAN TELL YOU 18 AIN'T GOING TO MAKE IT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING.
YEAH, YEAH. WE MIGHT NOT GET A TANK, RIGHT? NO, BUT AND THE SAME THING WITH A JET AND ALL THAT.
SO I WANTED TO GET, YOU KNOW, WRAP MY HEAD AROUND BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS GREAT TO HONOR OUR VETERANS. I JUST WANT TO GET WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHAT WHAT YOU ENVISION, WHETHER THEY'RE LIKE CANNONS OR WHAT WHAT, BECAUSE TANKS ARE HUGE TRANSPORTATION WISE AND THEN THE UPKEEP BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNTY.
AND IT DEPENDS WHERE THAT THE SURPLUS COMES FROM.
IT COME FROM ABERDEEN, MARYLAND.
IT COULD COME FROM COLORADO, FORT RUCKER OR WHEREVER IT IS.
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AND THAT'S WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION COST IS.THAT'S. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ITEM WE'RE GOING TO GET.
SO I WANTED TO SEE WHICH ITEM YOUR THOUGHTS WERE TO KIND OF LIKE HONE IN ON THAT.
THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND I ASKED GREG MINER, WHO'S WORKING THIS.
IS NOT IS WHAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE.
SO MORE LIKELY, WE WON'T GET A LARGE PIECE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
FROM WHAT GREG TOLD ME, IT MIGHT BE A CANNON OR HOWITZER OR I CAN SEE.
RIGHT. SOMETHING, SOMETHING SMALL OR IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, LIKE I SAID, SOMETHING LARGE THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOT OF MONEY TO BRING IT DOWN HERE.
SO IT'S IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE NICE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE AND WE HAVE TO GET ON THE LIST.
AND IT COULD COME FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, LIKE YOU SAID.
SO THAT'S ALL GOING TO PLAY IN THE TRANSPORTATION PART.
IT'S BEEN A LOT OF MONEY TO GET THIS DONE.
I JUST WANTED TO VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE FIRST THING THE SECOND THING IS, I THINK YOU STILL PUT OUT THERE WHAT IT IS THAT YOUR VISION IS RIGHT.
SO LET'S ASK FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'M SORRY. IF YOU IF YOU'RE IF YOUR VISION IS HELD THERE, THEN LET'S SPECIFICALLY HONE IN ON THAT. IN SPITE OF WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A WISH LIST IS WHAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING.
BUT LET'S IT IS YOU KNOW THE MORE THAT WE CAN BE DESCRIPTIVE BECAUSE I'M GONNA TELL YOU THEY, THEY DO HAVE SURPLUS AND IT IS GOING TO BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN IT, LIKE YOU SAID, AND NOT KEEP IT AND REFURBISH IT.
YOU MENTIONED THE MUSEUM UP IN MERRITT ISLAND.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN A PROCESS OF THEY HAVE TO REFURBISH THOSE THOSE CHOPPERS.
THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO BRING THEM DOWN NOW AND HAVE THEM REFURBISHED IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEM. OF COURSE, HELICOPTERS WOULD BE NICE, BUT THAT'S A HUGE COST.
SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF LIKE TO HONE IN ON THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT YOU BROUGHT UP THE PALM BAY VA CLINIC.
I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THE PALM BAY VA CLINIC, THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS, IS LOOKING DOWNRANGE TO INCREASE THAT FOOTPRINT WITHIN OUR CITY, AND IT IS PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE PLACED FOR TEN YEARS.
SO IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE WE'RE ON THAT FOCUS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS IN THE ORLANDO AREA. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
THAT'S BEEN A GOAL TO INCREASE THAT FOOTPRINT.
BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT I SUPPORT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MEMORIAL, I WANT TO JUST MENTION WE HAD CRICHTON WELDON, WHO WAS THE FIRST KILLED IN ACTION IN OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM, IN OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM.
WE HAD GIFFORD AND AND SANCHO AND HORSCHEL, NOT HORSCHEL.
IT'S WITH THE NAME. SO BUT WE HAD POM BEARS, BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL AND POM BEARS AND THE BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.
GENTLEMEN, IS WITH THE NATURE.
HORSLEY. HORSLEY JUST THE HORSLEY.
YES, SIR. AND AND THESE THESE KIDS GREW UP HERE IN PALM BAY, AND THEY THEY LOST THEIR LIVES IN COMBAT.
SO THIS GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH BUILDING UP THAT THAT TYPE OF MEMORIAL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I WILL DEFER TO YOU WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
GREG MINOR IS REALLY HELPING AND TRYING TO MAKE THIS COME TO LIFE.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S LIKE HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT NOT GET.
YOU KNOW, YOU GET A NICE SOME NICE EQUIPMENT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SMALL WHERE YOU COULD PUT IT ON A PAD AND NOT COST THE CITY A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID.
ALSO, SOMETHING DECENT TO HONOR OUR VETERANS AND OUR FALLEN HERE IN PALM BAY.
AND I THINK THAT BRINGS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE SHOW WHO PALM BAY IS REALLY IS.
I THINK, MASTER CHIEF, WE WANT A BOAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COMMENT ON THIS? DEPUTY OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER? AS YOU WERE, COUNCILMAN.
I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT BACK WHEN I WAS A KID IN THE EARLY NINETIES, THIS PARK THAT YOU MENTIONED, IT WAS NAMED ROACH PARK.
YES. ROACH LIKE A COCKROACH? YES. IT WAS NAMED AFTER SOMEBODY.
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YES. YES. SO COUNCIL AT THE TIME DECIDED TO NAME A VETERANS PARK AND THEY PUT THE MONUMENT THERE. SO THAT'S I'M I'M ALL FOR WHAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.I WOULD I WOULD ASK THAT WE SUPPLEMENT THE MONUMENT, THOUGH.
I HOPE WE DON'T PLAN TO REMOVE THAT MONUMENT THERE.
100%. AND DAY TO DAY, MY DAY TO DAY WORK IS WITH WITH VETERANS.
I WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE TO GET EITHER THE AMERICAN LEGION'S OR THE VFW IS INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE MAINTENANCE OR IN SOME SORT OF FASHION.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE WITH THIS.
AND TO THAT POINT, THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 189 DOWN IN SEBASTIAN IS LOOKING TO DO THE SAME THING AND DO IT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AT RIVERWALK PARK OUT THERE IN SEBASTIAN, IF YOU GUYS EVER BEEN THERE, AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE LIKE THEY HONOR THE PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS, THEY HONOR VETERANS THERE AND THEIR PLAZA.
SO THAT'S BEEN THE GOAL THAT THEY'VE RECENTLY BEEN WHEN DRIVING OR STRIVING FOR.
BUT THAT'S A GREAT POINT IN HAVING OUR POST 117 IN PARTICULAR, ARE YOU THINKING OF DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON OR ALL OF BOTH? YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE TWO POSTS.
BOTH THEY CAN I DON'T SEE ANY FOR ANY ISSUE IN THEM WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.
SO, SO PETER OR MADAM SHERMAN, ARE YOU ABLE TO SUGGEST THAT TO OUR MAJOR MINOR AND TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION OR YOU GO WITH THAT.
OKAY. SO I CARE THAT THAT'S GREAT.
BUT YOU'RE IN. COULSON FOSTER, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
PUT YOUR HAND TO 19 TRILLION AVENUE.
I'VE TRAVELED ACROSS THIS LAND OF OURS, BOTH IN THE MILITARY AND AS JUST A CITIZEN TRAVELING. THERE'S SEVERAL MOVING VETERANS DISPLAYS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE BIG AIRPLANES.
AND IT'S GOT THE NAMES LISTED OF THE PEOPLE FROM THAT CITY THAT DIED IN THE SERVICE OF THEIR COUNTRY. THE OTHER ONE IS IN CHARLESTON, VIRGINIA.
EXCUSE ME. THEY HAVE A DISPLAY THERE OF THE DOG TAGS.
AND YOU HAD TO GIVE ME A SECOND.
IT DOES. IT BRINGS YOU TO TEARS TO SEE THAT WE'RE TALKING OVER 3000 DOG TAGS AND IT IS HANGING, BLOWING IN THE BREEZE.
SO THERE'S SMALL THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COST FOR A DOG TO TAKE TWO OR $3.
MAYBE IT JUST TAKES SOME RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE AND TO GIVE THOSE VETERANS THE HONOR THAT THEY DESERVE.
YOU CAN'T GET AIRPLANES FROM DIFFERENT PLACES.
LIKE THE MAYOR SAYS, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MOVING IT.
THAT'S WHERE THE COST COMES IN.
SOME OF THEM WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GO GET IT.
SO, NO, SOME GUYS THAT'S GOT SOME TRUCKS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO IT FOR FREE OR NOT, SO I'D BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
I HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THESE PLACES THAT I'VE BEEN TO THAT YOU I'D BE GLAD TO SHARE WITH YOU. OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL.
OH, YOU. CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MIC UP REAL CLOSE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? YEAH. WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME.
US OLD GUYS CAN'T HEAR SO GOOD.
I ACTUALLY REPOSITIONED BECAUSE MY MIKE WAS OVER HERE AND I'M TRYING TO GET COMFORTABLE UP HERE. OKAY, SO IT'S MY FIRST DAY.
BUT, YEAH, IF YOU COULD. IF YOU COULD KIND OF MOVE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? SO I LOOK TO. MAKE A MOTION.
GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER OF INSTALLING A MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY AT VETERANS PARK AND THE AMOUNT THAT HELP FUND IT.
WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FELIX OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST THE EARLY STAGES, BUT I LOVE WHAT OUR RESIDENT BUSH SAID.
AND I THINK THAT'S HUGE THAT THAT SHOWS THAT OUR COMMUNITY'S HONORING OUR VETERANS.
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SO THANK YOU. AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH FOUR STAR RELATED TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT CALLED CYPRUS BAY. WEST CYPRUS BAY WEST IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT HAS EXPECTED 1219.
SINGLE FAMILY 124 TOWNHOME UNITS TOTALING THREE DEVELOPMENT PHASES FOR SA HAS PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
APPROVAL FOR PHASE ONE FROM CITY COUNCIL AND PHASES TWO AND THREE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. THE PURPOSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS TO SPEAK TO THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT FOUR STAR IS COMMITTING TO MAKE AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND SO I WOULD WANT TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO TALK THROUGH WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE DISCUSSING DOING.
AND PART OF THIS AGREEMENT OR THIS AGREEMENT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON A PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTION.
SO THEY WOULD BE INSTALLING THESE THE VALUE OVER WHAT THEIR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IS WOULD THEN BE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE CREDITABLE.
SO HAPPY TO SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO MR. CHRIS TYREE IS COMING FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. CHRIS TARRY, DIVISION PRESIDENT FOR FOUR STAR DEVELOPMENT, 295 UMATILLA, FLORIDA. I'D LIKE TO THANK PERSONALLY SUZANNE STAFF JOANN PATRICIA FRANK.
THEY'VE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY ALONG WITH US, WITH MY TEAM TO, I THINK, A FRAMEWORK, A VERY FAIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR BOTH THE CITY AND FOR US AS A DEVELOPER TO KIND OF ELABORATE ON WHAT SUSAN SUZANNE SAYS.
SORRY, TRY TO GET MY MIKE READY.
THE DEVELOPMENT BASELINE IS FRAMEWORKS, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PERMITTING GUIDELINES, STORMWATER STUFF LIKE THAT.
BASICALLY, WHAT'S IN OUR FTP THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR PHASE ONE, TWO AND THREE? AND THEN THE IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT BASICALLY SOLIDIFIES OUR TRAFFIC AGREEMENT OR TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO FOR A FULL, PROPORTIONAL, FAIR SHARE FOR OUR OVERALL PROJECT.
A LOT OF THE BIGGEST HEAVY LIFTING IN THIS IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT IS BASICALLY MERRILL BOULEVARD, WHICH KIND OF GOES THROUGH AND IS A COLLECTIVE ROAD THROUGH OUR PROJECT AND THEN TIES INTO A SECTION OF JOURNEY DRIVE.
THAT JOURNEY DROP WILL BE THEN TIED IN TO THE INTERSECTION OF BABCOCK STREET, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH STAFF AND THE CITY AS WELL TO DEDICATE SOME RIGHT AWAY FOR THE CITY AND ALSO WORKING WITH STAFF ON SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BABCOCK AS WELL.
SO WE'RE PRETTY LIKE SO WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE VERBIAGE IN THE DA AND IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT. DEFINITELY ENJOY WORKING WITH STAFF.
I KNOW THE TEAM. MY TEAM AND THEIR TEAM AS WELL HAS WORKED A LOT OF HOURS ON THIS, PROBABLY SEVERAL MONTHS ACTUALLY.
BUT IT'S I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD DAY AND IT KIND OF EXCITED TO BRING IT ON AND WE'D DO SEVERAL THINGS AROUND THE STATE AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER ONES. I THINK WE'VE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH MUNICIPALITY ON HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
A PROJECT THAT CAME INTO THE PACKET.
SO IT TOOK ME A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO READ IT AND THE PACKET CONSISTED OF 100 AND SOME PAGES OF LOOK GOING THROUGH READING THROUGH THIS CONTRACT.
AND I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, WHY AM I USING THIS MUCH ENERGY TO READ? JUST A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BUT THAT BRINGS US TO A HISTORY LESSON.
I WON'T SAY ANY NAMES OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT WITH CONTRACTORS IN THIS AREA.
WE ENDED UP HAVING COSTING THE CITY $9 MILLION BECAUSE OF A CONTRACT WHERE WE COULD NOT GET A WE DIDN'T SIGN WITH A SIGNATURE.
THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE SHORT WINDOW OF HISTORY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
SO I WANT TO SAY, REMEMBER, WE DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN HAND YET.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T HAVE.
HAVE YOUR HAVE YOUR ACTION READY IN CASE THAT WE DON'T EVER IT DOESN'T COME TO COMPLETION. KEEP IN MIND, WE HAVE BEEN BEEN BURNT BEFORE WITH THE SAME PARTICULAR IDENTITY. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ON THIS ONE.
BUT THEN I STARTED DOUBTING WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THE TIME, I SAY, ARE THESE FIGURES CORRECT? DOES IT MAKE SENSE? SO I WENT AHEAD AND CONTACTED CITY ENGINEER AND HE WAS NICE ENOUGH TO RESPOND BACK TO ME.
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HE SAID, BILL, WE SPENT MANY, MANY HOURS CRUNCHING THESE NUMBERS AND I WAS SOMEWHAT SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE FOUR ITEMS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT CAME TO $4 MILLION THAT WAS COMING FROM THE DEVELOPER.SO THAT MAKES ME BILL BATTEN, THE DOUBTING TOM, HALF EMPTY GLASS ALL THE TIME.
BUT I'M STILL SAYING DON'T FORGET HISTORY.
KEEP IT IN MIND THAT WE HAVE BEEN BURNED BEFORE.
LET'S DON'T LET IT HAPPEN TWICE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.
I RECEIVED AN INJURED ALPACA ON TUESDAY, I BELIEVE, OR WEDNESDAY, AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE TECHNICAL COMMENTS AND JUST WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ALL ABOUT IN GENERAL. SO RESPECTFULLY, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS ISSUE.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE WORKED ON THIS, SO I'LL LEAVE YOU ALL TO IT.
DUDE. THIS IS JUST THE SECOND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
CERTAINLY. IF COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, CITY ENGINEER, YOU KNOW, TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, WE'D LIKE TO GET THE DEVELOPER BACK.
THEY ASK TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, BUT I KNOW WE STILL HAVE TO MEET AND DISCUSS SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THIS IS YOUR FIRST DAY, BUT THERE VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH YOU CAN ABSTAIN FROM VOTING, AND THOSE TYPICALLY ARE GOING TO BE CENTER AROUND YOU HAVING A VOTING CONFLICT IN WHICH THERE SOME TYPE OF ECONOMIC FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO YOU. THIS IS NOT ONE, BUT CERTAINLY I I'VE TALKED WITH A LOT WITH MR. WATANABE AND AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THEY ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN EXPERIENCE AND I'M SURE THEY CAN.
COME BACK FORTH AND PROVIDE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR PHASE ONE, TWO AND THREE.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T. AND I'M SURE THEY'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE.
I'M OKAY. I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO.
I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE WITH THAT INFORMATION, TOO.
BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK.
SO I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN OR I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE INFORMATION HERE.
SO YOU ALL COULD TAKE THAT AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT.
BUT I'M ALREADY I'M JUST REQUESTING THAT I ABSTAIN, OTHERWISE MY VOTES CAN BE A NO.
IT'S BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE INFORMATION AT HAND, SO THAT'S FINE.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE IF YOU WANT TO VOTE.
NO, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT THERE'S CERTAIN PROCEDURES LEGALLY AS FAR AS WHETHER YOU'RE NOT VOTING, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN VOTE NO.
AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING PERSONAL.
THEY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SITTING HERE, THEY UNDERSTAND IT, BUT YOU'RE LEGALLY GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE. THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL.
NO, BUT THERE ARE VOTING THERE.
THERE'S THE LAWS AS FAR AS WHEN YOU MAY ABSTAIN, CERTAINLY YOU HAVE TO STATE THE NATURE OF THEIR VOTING CONFLICT. THERE'S A FORM THAT HAS TO BE FILLED OUT.
BUT CERTAINLY THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL GO OVER MORE WHEN YOU AND I HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET. BUT, SIR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE.
ABSTAIN? NO, SIR, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT.
AND OF COURSE, DA HASN'T MADE ME AWARE OF THIS, THAT SOMEHOW YOU ARE A MEMBER OF FOUR STAR OR SOMEBODY IN YOUR FAMILY AS A MEMBER OF FOUR STAR, AND THAT SOMEHOW THIS GOES FORTH AT YOU YOURSELF OR SOMEBODY THAT IS IN THAT FAMILIAR LINE IS GOING TO BE ECONOMICALLY BENEFITED FROM THIS.
YES. AND YOU COULD STATE WHAT THAT CONFLICT IS.
AND THEN CERTAINLY THE CLERK WILL GET WITH YOU TO GET THE FORM THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO FILL OUT. BUT OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE.
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, MADAM ATTORNEY, AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY, BUT I WILL VOTE. BUT I JUST WANT YOU GUYS, EVERYBODY OUT THERE TO KNOW I'M VOTING NO BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.
DEVELOPMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT COUNCIL'S DONE IN THE PAST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
SIMPLE, PLAIN, AND I TRIED TO ABSTAIN.
AND STAFF IS SAYING THAT I CAN'T ABSTAIN, SO I HAVE TO VOTE NOW.
SO. AND I WANT TO VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SIR.
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S JUST SAYING THERE'S THERE'S JUST A FEW RULES WHY WE CAN ABSTAIN FROM A VOTE. AND SHE MENTIONED A FEW OF THOSE.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR YOUR POSITION IS.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR ENGINEERS OR ANYTHING LIKE.
NO, NO, I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK.
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT AT ALL.I'M I'M TOLD I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN, SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT.
IT REALLY DOESN'T. THAT'S FAIR.
SO. ANY ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? ANY OTHER.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? GENTLEMEN. HE COMMENTS.
I'LL HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND FOUR STAR.
WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
SECOND, I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? YES, MAYOR. JUST REAL QUICK.
THE CHARTER OFFICERS WORK AT THE LIBERTY OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR BEST INTERESTS. AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL SMITH IS TRYING TO DO.
AND SHE'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY UP HERE GET SUED.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB SO FAR.
SO THAT'S ALL SHE'S TRYING TO COME WITH, SIR, BECAUSE SHE STOPPED ME AND HELPED ME OUT MULTIPLE TIMES AS WELL, WHERE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING DOWN THE RIGHT AVENUE AND SHE GOT ME BACK ON TRACK. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL SHE MEANS BY THAT.
COUNCILMAN JONES, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
I KNOW THAT I EVEN HAD A MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY YET, SO ALL I WAS TRYING TO REQUEST WAS TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS BECAUSE I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
AND THE REASON WHY I'M VOTING NO IS BECAUSE OF.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT.
YEAH. OKAY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR STANCE.
I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT HERE.
WE WANT TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON IS JUST REVEALING TO YOU THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S JUST TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR YOU BECAUSE WE CAN'T ABSTAIN ON A VOTE.
BUT I DULY RESPECT YOUR STANCE AND I'M I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
SO WE ARE NOW ON COMMITTEE COUNSEL REPORTS.
[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]
FILIBERTO. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR VICTORY.THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NEW HERE.
DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCILMAN REPORTS, BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION SOME THINGS FROM A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
MS.. SHERMAN, I'M GOING TO BRING UP TO YOU OR TO CITY STAFF.
I'LL BRING UP LATER THE 1480 GATOR DRIVE.
I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS BILL PATTON'S COMMENT IN MY FIRST ABOUT 800 WORDS HERE.
I NEVER MENTIONED WRITE LEFT ARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS A NONPARTIZAN ELECTION AND THIS IS A NONPARTISAN COUNCIL.
HOWEVER, AFTER MY SPEECH, 600 AND HUNDRED WORDS, YOU NOTICE THREE OF FIVE COUNCILS SAY WE MAY HAVE OPPOSING VIEWS.
THEY SAID THAT I BELIEVE IN A NONPARTISAN COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THIS COUNCIL NONPARTISAN.
THERE WAS ANOTHER COMET THAT CAME OUT.
REGARDING A SISTER CITY FOR FOR GDC PALM BAY IS BUILT AS A GDC CITY.
BE THAT AS IT MAY, THERE IS OTHER SUCCESSFUL GDC CITIES OUT THERE WHICH WE CAN COMPARE OURSELVES TO, SUCH AS PORT SAINT LUCIE.
I HEARD THAT ALSO BROUGHT UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS STARTED FROM AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S BEING BEING DONE THAT WAY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME FURTHER RESEARCH ON THAT.
AND THEN ALSO, I'VE ALREADY STARTED DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF REGARDING THE THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM.
SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, I MEAN, JUST GOT SWORN IN.
I HAVE SOME THINGS ON MY PLATE AND I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER, SIR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR VOTING. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. A MORE POSITIVE NOTE, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT.
THE POLICE PRESENCE IN OUR LOBBY.
I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, I COMMEND STAFF AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S.
IDEA IN TERMS OF REINFORCE OR ADD, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING CONSIDERING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD.
I CAN SEE I SEE IT IN MULTIPLE FACETS IN ALL POSITIVE, NOT ONLY THE INTERACTION.
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EVERY TIME I ENTER THE BUILDING AND THE PRESENCE, YOU CAN FEEL THE PRESENT, THE INTERACTION WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.SO IT'S TRULY ALL IN ALL THE OFFICERS SO FAR I GET TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND MY ASSUMPTION WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, I THOUGHT MOST OF THE OFFICERS KNEW WHO COUNSEL WERE. AND I REALIZED QUICKLY THAT WASN'T THE CASE BECAUSE ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF INTO IT, I'M STILL YOU KNOW, I'M SO AND SO I'M LIKE, I DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.
INTRODUCE MYSELF, AS YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T USE I DON'T DROP THE CARD COUNCILMAN HARDLY EVER.
BUT BUT ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANTED TO PUT A HIGHLIGHT ON THAT.
I THOUGHT I THOUGHT IT WAS EXTREMELY GREAT.
I HAD A CHANCE TO ENGAGE WITH A YOUNG LADY THIS MORNING.
I CAN'T THINK OF HER NAME. I BELIEVE IT'S SAMANTHA.
VERY ENGAGING. SHOWED YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS.
SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHERE OUR OFFICES ARE UP THERE.
I SAID I'M NOT FORTUNATE ENOUGH.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR GOT AN OFFICE.
BUT BUT ANYWAY, NEEDLESS TO SAY, SHE SHE HAS SOME THOUGHT AN IDEA I BELIEVE I HAD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN TO HER THIS IS STILL BEING WORKED OUT IN TERMS OF ALL THE DETAILS OF IT. I THOUGHT THAT'S GREAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT THANKS TO STAFF AND THAT THAT ACTUALLY MAKING IT HAPPEN.
SECONDLY, JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO A HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO ROGERS FAMILY.
A COMMUNITY LEADER BESIDES HIS DUTIES AS AS AS CHIEF, AS POLICE OFFICER, HAS BEEN SERVED TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY VERY WELL.
ON BEING WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE AS MY SON WAS JUST ENTERING LITTLE LEAGUE FOOTBALL, HE HE WAS HE COACHED MY SON AT A YOUNG AGE AND ALL KIDS ENDED UP BEING CLASSMATES AT COVENANT CHRISTIAN OF MY MY DAUGHTER AND MY SON WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THESE KIDS AND COVENANT CHRISTIAN SO. WHAT A LOSS.
BUT THE IMPORTANT THINGS, WE'LL GET TO SEE THEM AGAIN.
LEAVE IT TO REVEREND. THAT WAS GOOD.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX AND I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MEN, BUT EVEN TO THAT EFFORT THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION THAT WE COULD HAVE.
SO, YES, THINGS GOES TO STAFF.
BUT YOU GUYS ALSO CREATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO HAVE THAT LUXURY OF HAVING THAT TYPE OF SECURITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. A COUPLE OF THINGS INSTEAD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY WITH MR. FILIBERTO, WHO I GOT RESPECT FOR WHEN I MENTIONED THE TWO BEING FROM TWO DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
I WAS I WANTED TO ASSURE YOU THAT I BELIEVE IN TEAMWORK AND WE ARE PART OF THE TEAM.
DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN IS ABOUT US DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR HER BROTHER.
IT'S NOT ABOUT LEFT OR RIGHT OR DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.
IT'S ABOUT US WORKING TOGETHER AND GETTING THINGS DONE FOR PALM BAY.
I SEE THAT WE'VE BEEN ON BOARD TOGETHER, AND I SEE THAT.
SO. MY POINT TO YOU WAS, LET'S WORK AS A TEAM.
LET'S BE A TEAM. WE MIGHT DISAGREE, BUT RESPECTFULLY, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S A WELCOME AND AND THAT'S FROM MY HEART.
OKAY. SO THE NEXT THING I WANT TO SAY IS CHIEF ROGERS, OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVICE.
GOD BLESS HIS SOUL AND HIS FAMILY.
AND WE WAS HONORED TO HAVE HIM SERVE THE CITY AND SERVED US.
AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY AND I'M PRAYING FOR THE FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, THEY HEAL FROM THEIR LOSS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO HONOR CHIEF WARD IN THE FUTURE.
I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
WE MIGHT WANT TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO THE NAME LIKE WE DID THE CHIEF IN THE PARK. BUT NAME SOMETHING AFTER CHIEF ROGERS.
BECAUSE I THINK HIS LEGACY ON THIS CITY IS IMPORTANT AND IT SHOULD BE HONORED.
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UM. WE WENT TO TRAINING LAST WEEK IN THE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.AND ONE THING WE LEARNED ABOUT THAT ACADEMY IS GETTING ALONG WITH OTHERS HOW TO.
HOW TO? BE SENSITIVE TO HOW OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
THAT'S WHAT I GOT OUT OF THAT TWO DAYS OF TRAINING.
AND IT WAS IT WAS IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO DEFINITELY GO TO THAT LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.
GOING FORWARD, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD COUNSEL.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB IN REGARDS TO UPDATING THE PUBLIC ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE. SO I JUST WANTED TO DO THE LIBERTY OF DOING THAT.
IT ENDED MARCH 14TH AT 1:03 P.M.
AND THEY PASSED THE $112 BILLION BUDGET.
AND OUT OF THAT BUDGET ORIGINALLY THEY STARTED WITH 3600 BILLS AND IT CONCLUDED WITH 262 BILLS BEING PASSED AND THEY'RE NOW ON THEIR WAY TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO BE SIGNED OR VETOED. SO JUST BRIEFLY, SOME OF THE BILLS THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE KIND OF GOING AGAINST LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOME RULE HAD TO DO WITH INCREASE IN SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY, DEVELOPMENT OF BUSINESS IMPACT, STATEMENTS FOR LOCAL ORDINANCES, RESTRICTIONS ON REGULATING SHORT TERM RENTALS, FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE ENHANCEMENTS LIKE LIMITING LIQUIDATED DAMAGES FOR SOLID WASTE PROVIDERS.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE MADE IT WHERE WE COULDN'T COLLECT, YOU KNOW, LIQUID LIQUIDATED DAMAGES FROM REPUBLIC OR WHOEVER.
SO LUCKILY THAT DIDN'T PASS ON LOCAL HOUSE BILL 531.
BUT ON THE GOOD NOTE, WHICH WE GOT THE EMAIL FROM OUR CITY MANAGER, $400,000 FOR THE NEW FIRE STATION, SEVEN ON PALM BAY ROAD AND 1.2 MILLION FOR THE BAFFLE BOXES.
SO ALL WE NEED IS TO GOVERNOR DESANTIS TO SIGN THAT.
AND WE'RE WE'RE GOOD AND WE'RE GOOD ON THAT NOTE.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I DID WANT TO SPEAK ON, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE WAY TO HIS DESK AS WELL, IS REGULATION OF SMOKING BY COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES TO BE ALLOWED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO REGULATE.
SO WHILE IT HASN'T BEEN SIGNED YET AND IT WON'T BE SIGNED FOR ANOTHER FEW MONTHS, I WOULD LIKE COUNCILS CONSENSUS TO WORK WITH STAFF ON BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD ONCE IT'S BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR IN REGARDS TO AN ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY ON NOT SMOKING AT PUBLIC PARKS.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS FROM THAT.
SO CAN I TAG ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? CAN WE CAN WE SEND A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THAT AS AS A BODY? BEFORE HE SIGNS IT.
YEAH, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, RIGHT? YEAH. YES, SIR. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I'LL SUPPORT THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LETTER COME FROM YOU, MAYOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID THAT OR.
WE PERSONALLY WENT UP THERE AND GOT IT.
I MEAN, THAT WAS MY GOAL IN THIS TRIP TO TALLAHASSEE.
YEAH, WELL, IT WAS THE 1.2 MILLION FOR OUR BAFFLE BOXES AND OUR FIRE STATION.
AND I PERSONALLY MET WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY, AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT IT'S ON THERE.
BUT I'LL SIGN A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THAT, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.
WE GO WITH THAT. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO HAS GOT THE THUMBS UP.
MADAM SHERMAN, DO YOU NEED ANY OTHER.
OKAY. SO, YES, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
AND THEN NEXT UP, LAST YEAR, I BROUGHT IT UP IN REGARDS TO REVIEWING THE STORM WATER AND ROADS. AND I WAS TALKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND WE'RE COMING TO A GOOD PLACE, I THINK. SO I WAS ASKING IF SHE CAN UPDATE THE REST OF COUNCIL.
ARABS DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE COUNCIL MEETING, BUT CERTAINLY IT SPENT SOME TIME AS COUNCILMAN BAILEY BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL AGREED TO ALLOW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
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OFFICE TO RETAIN A CONSULTANT WHO WE DID RETAIN, WERE ABLE TO RETAIN AN ENGINEER WHO MET WITH STAFF REVIEWS.SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS WENT OUT AND DID FIELD VISITS AND IT WAS PRIMARILY CONCERN AS FAR AS SOME OF THE UNITS THAT HAD THE PAVED SWALES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, YOU'LL HAVE ISSUES COME UP FROM HERE AND THERE.
THERE ARE MORE AND MORE COMPLAINTS IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THE PAY SWELLS DOES CREATE SOME CHALLENGES.
AND SO HE DID MEET WITH SEVERAL OF THE ENGINEERING TEAM AS FAR AS THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD AND THE STORMWATER.
HE HAS DONE A REPORT WHICH IS CERTAINLY WHAT COUNCIL ALL WANTED AS FAR AND COORDINATED WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHO ALSO HAD WANTED SOME SPECIFIC THINGS FOR HIM TO REVIEW AND ADDRESS. THAT REPORT IS BEING FINALIZED AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT OUT TO COUNCIL WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH, BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE BALL WASN'T DROPPED ON THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE LIKE COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SAID, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN REGARDS TO THE $150 MILLION ROAD BOND.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, THREE MORE THINGS REAL QUICK WITH CITY HALL SECURITY.
I SEE THE SAME THING YOU ALL SEE AND I SEE I LOVE IT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS UP TO COUNCIL AND TO YOU SPECIFICALLY, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU INITIATED.
WE HAVE THE METAL DETECTOR THAT JUST SITS HERE PRIMARILY MOST OF THE TIME, BUT I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVE IF WE MOVED IT TOWARDS THE FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL CITY HALL JUST FOR ANOTHER SAFETY MEASURE, OR IF WE USE A WAND OR ADDED SAFETY MEASURE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU, YOURSELF OR STAFF CAN LOOK INTO BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOT I DON'T WANT TO JINX ANYTHING, BUT SOMEBODY CAN EASILY, YOU KNOW, GO IN AND OUT. THAT'S SUCH.
SO CAN I RESPOND? YES. CARRY ON.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND ONE OF THE SECURITY MEETINGS AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK MORE OF US I DON'T WANT TO.
LOOK LIKE THE CITY. YOU'RE GOING THROUGH AN AIRPORT METAL DETECTOR.
I DON'T WANT TO SHOW THAT TYPE OF APPEARANCE LIKE YOU HAD THE AIRPORT AND WE GOT TO WARN EVERYBODY DOWN AND CHECK THE BAGS.
I THINK WITH THE OFFICER PRESENCE THAT YOU SAW IN A PATROL CAR, I THINK THAT'S MORE OF COMMUNITY SECURITY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CAMERAS EVENTUALLY.
WE'RE GOING TO GET CAMERAS AND YOU COULD SEE IS BEING RECORDED.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A DETERRENT.
JUST LIKE THE COUNTY WHEN YOU GO IN THE COUNTY BUILDING.
RIGHT, MAYOR, YOU HAVE A DEPUTY THERE, BUT YOU DON'T GET WORN DOWN.
I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT SCREEN.
I THINK THE OFFICER PRESENCE THERE AND THE PATROL CAR OUT THERE WILL PREVENT A LOT OF PROBLEMS. ONCE THEY SEE THAT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN.
YOU KNOW, IN CHICAGO OR MIAMI OR OR DETROIT.
ON A LOW LEVEL SECURITY OFFICER PRESENT.
AND I THINK THAT GIVES THE POLICE.
OF THE CITIZENS OF OPPORTUNITY TO COME LIKE COUNCILMAN FELIX COME IN ME TO OFFICER THAT COMMUNITY FEEL THAT YOU ARE SAFE BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE OF OUR FINEST PROTECTING.
THAT'S WHY. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE METAL DETECTOR.
BUT HERE IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU GET YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING IN AND.
BUT. IT'S A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC.
YOU'VE GOT ANGRY PEOPLE SHOWING UP FOR FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SECURITY AND SUCH AS THE CLOSEST.
WE'RE VERY CLOSE. SO THERE'S NO YOU CAN'T DUCK.
YOU CAN'T HIDE. SOMEBODY START SHOOTING.
YOU KNOW, SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY COMING IN A BUILDING, A MEETING LIKE THIS IS. NOT CARRYING A WEAPON, BUT.
I JUST THINK THAT SO MANY PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE CITY.
CITY HALL. THAT WILL CAUSE A BACKUP.
NOT A FAVORABLE LIGHT ON THE CITY.
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BUT. AND YES, SIR.AND I DO. AND THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I'M JUST I WALK IN AND OUT ALL THE TIME AND I SEE OTHERS WALKING ON OUT ALL THE TIME.
BUT I KNEW YOU WERE SPEARHEADING IT, SO I WANTED TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN ONCE A MONTH JUST TO PAY THEIR UTILITY BILLS OR, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GO UP TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR. HE'S NOT THERE. NOW, THERE I YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE AN OFFICER.
AND TO THAT END, YOU KNOW, IN THE COUNTY YOU MENTIONED THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VOTED TO HAVE EVEN EMPLOYEES.
HAVE FIREARMS THAT ARE LICENSED.
YEAH. BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO YOU KNOW, IT COULD CREATE A BOTTLENECK.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE I AGREE WITH YOU, SOME ENFORCE THEM.
AND THEN THE LAST TWO THINGS. SO I'M JUST I'VE HAD THE SAME ISSUE IN REGARDS TO HEARING FROM RESIDENTS AND DRIVING AROUND THE HOUSE LIKE I MEAN, DRIVING AROUND THE HOUSE, DRIVING AROUND THE CITY AND SEEING HOUSES LIKE MR. SHARON MENTIONED OF HOUSE HEIGHTS.
AND IT'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT HEIGHTS.
LIKE, SOME ARE LIKE SOME ARE LOOKING LIKE A CASTLE, SOME OR YOU'RE MOUNT OR LOWER.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO WITH THAT.
I JUST I'M NOT SURE I KNOW THEIR MEETING CRITERIA, BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE LIKE, ARE WE OVER? EXTENDING OR I DON'T I'M NOT SURE I'M JUST HAVING THE CONVERSATION OUT LOUD BECAUSE I SEE I'VE SEEN IT MORE OFTEN THAN I WOULD LIKE TO.
AND THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT.
AND THEN IN CLOSING WITH CHIEF JIM ROGERS, I MET CHIEF.
PRIOR TO BEING ON COUNCIL WHEN I WAS DOING A LOT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS OUT IN THE MOSTLY IN THE LOW INCOME AREA, LIKE WE MENTIONED EARLIER.
HE WAS ALWAYS THERE. MISS MELISSA WAS ALWAYS THERE.
AND THEY WERE LIKE THE EPITOME OF COMMUNITY POLICING.
LIKE THEY SHOWED EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE.
YEAH, HUSBAND AND WIFE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SHOWED EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE.
SO THIS IS A HARD HIT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
IT'S HARD HIT FOR ME PERSONALLY AS WELL AND FOR MY FAMILY BECAUSE THEY KNEW HOW MUCH AND HOW INVOLVED HE WAS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO DEFINITELY BEST REGARDS AND I'LL BE THERE SATURDAY AS WELL, SO THAT'S ALL.
AND ON THAT NOTE, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.
THE ROGERS FAMILY, MY PRAYERS ARE EXTENDED TO THEM AND AND A COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS AND POLICE AND POLICE CHIEF.
RIGHT. SPORTS MINDED INDIVIDUAL, GREAT COACH.
WHAT A WHAT A LEADER AND A DEVASTATING LOSS.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'LL BE OFFICIATING ANOTHER SERVICE FOR NADINE CAVALIER.
WE LOST THE WEEK PRIOR, SO I'LL BE OFFICIATING THAT SERVICE.
SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO TO MAKE IT TO THE ROGERS SERVICE AS WELL.
UM. I JUST WANT TO START MY REPORTS BY SAYING HAPPY ST PADDY'S DAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT, BUT I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT.
ALSO ON THE TDC, JAN DEVELOPMENT TAX NUMBERS ARE FINALLY IN.
THAT'S 73%, OVER 73% OVER THE LAST YEAR AND 23% OVER 2019. OVER 2019 PRIOR TO COVID.
SO THE CDC IS IS DEFINITELY BRINGING IN THOSE TAX DOLLARS.
I PERCEIVED THAT BY SAYING, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, GET AN UPDATE ON OUR CAMPGROUND OUT THERE AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE CDC FUNDING AND AND SEEING HOW WE COULD CONTINUE TO FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP.
I'D LIKE TO GET THEM THE LATEST UPDATE AND WHERE WE INTEND TO GO FROM THERE.
AND THEN IT IS SAINT PATTY'S DAY.
AND I JUST YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO.
IN A GREAT MAN ONCE SAID THIS, HE SAID.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT YOUR SPOUSE WHO WOULD BET.
SO I FEEL MY FATHER BET ON MY LIFE AND I LIVE MY LIFE TO HONOR HIM AND HIS MEMORY.
AND SO ST PATTY'S DAY, TWO YEARS AGO, I LOST MY DAD.
I LOVE YOU. I KNOW YOU'RE SHINING DOWN.
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MADAM SHERMAN.THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE THREE ITEMS FOR YOU, FIRST OF ALL.
EARLIER, SOME OF YOU MET, I BELIEVE HOPEFULLY ALL OF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO MEET OUR NEW ASSISTANT GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, JESSIE ANDERSON.
IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE THIS EVENING, I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE PLANS TO INTRODUCE YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM ON THE TEAM HE STARTED ON MONDAY.
SECOND THING IS JUST A BRIEF UPDATE.
WE TALKED AT A PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO EXTEND THE PTA FOR MALABAR WIDENING DOWN TO PAST BIT PAST HERITAGE.
SO AT AN UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING, WE WILL HAVE THAT ITEM FOR YOU.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE OVER $100,000 COST TO ADD THAT AND WE WOULD BE SPLITTING THAT POTENTIALLY BETWEEN THE TWO TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE FUNDS IN THAT AREA.
BUT THAT AGENDA ITEM IS FORTHCOMING.
SO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO YOU.
THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION ITEM THAT CAME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT, I DID WANT TO MENTION TO COUNCIL THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY REVIEWING A NUMBER OF THE REASONS WHY AND TRYING TO ISOLATE WHAT HAS CAUSED THAT ISSUE AND WHAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER.
SOME OF IT HAS BEEN RELATED TO DOE SEPTIC TANK TYPE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THE ONLY REASON WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION.
SO WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS.
I MENTIONED EARLIER, I BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE IS GOING TO BE AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT.
SO I AM COMMITTING TO BRING YOU THAT BACK IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
IF IT'S NOT AT THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL WILL BE THE SECOND BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SOLVE IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
AND THE LAST THING IS, I DID SEND A AND WE JUST ON THAT NOTE, THE ELEVATION SIDE ON THE DOES IT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FLOODPLAIN AND WHERE WE'RE.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PIECES.
SO I'D RATHER JUST SORT OF FINISH OUR REVIEW AND BRING THAT TO YOU.
UM, THE LAST THING IS I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL WE RECEIVED FROM THE SPACE COAST CPO REQUEST FOR SUPPORT FOR FDOT AND BRIGHT LINE ARE APPLYING FOR A FEDERAL RES GRANT.
IT WOULD BE A $45 MILLION GRANT AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE BRIGHT LINE TRACK, INCLUDING IN BREVARD COUNTY.
AND ESSENTIALLY THEY'VE JUST ASKED THE CITIES TO TO PROVIDE CONSIDER PROVIDING A LETTER OF SUPPORT SIGNED BY THE MAYOR TO GO ALONG WITH THEIR APPLICATION TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT SIGNED BY DEPUTY MAYOR. LET ME HAVE THE CITY.
NOW, THE DEPUTY MAYOR OR THE MAYOR? BECAUSE IT'S A FEDERAL ITEM, SIR.
GO WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, IN THAT LETTER.
DEPUTY MAYOR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MENTIONING A BRIGHT LINE STATION HERE IN PALM BAY, I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU. YES. ON THE ELEVATION, IS IS FEMA PART OF THAT ALSO? NO, SIR. NO. OKAY, JUST.
JUST CHECKING. MY MIND'S GOING.
SHERMAN. I'M GLAD YOU GUYS RESEARCHING THAT.
I'VE DONE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS.
I KNOW THE PART OF DIFFERENCE IS AREAS THAT HAS SEWAGE.
YOU'LL SEE THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
THIS AREA HAS TO DO OBVIOUSLY WITH SEPTIC TANK, DIFFERENT TYPE OF SEPTIC TANK.
AND THE COUNTY REALLY, FOR THE MOST PART, I'VE CONTROL AS TO WATER TABLE ELEVATION TYPE OF THING WHERE THE SEPTIC TANK SHOULD BE PLACED IN RELATION TO TO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FOUNDATION OR YOUR HOUSE WHERE THE HOUSE IS GOING TO SIT.
SO A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO NOT SO MUCH TO US, BUT IT'S A LOT HAS TO DO WITH THE COUNTY.
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY DICTATE.
EXACTLY. IN FACT, THEY COME IN AND CHECK TEST AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHICH LEVEL YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE. AND THE DIFFERENCE IS ALL AREAS OF SEWER.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE. TO EVEN KILL YOU.
GO TO THE COMMUNITIES OR ALONG MALIBU OR ANY AREA THAT HAS SEPTIC ACCESS.
SAME LEVEL. THERE'S NO NEED FOR.
IT'S NOT IMPACTED BY 71 WITH SEWER.
SEWER SYSTEM IN ALL THE AREAS WITH SEWER SYSTEMS. SAME AS THE POD'S AN AREA WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAS ACCESS TO SEWER.
AND YOU SAID BREVARD COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH.
DID YOU SAY WHICH IS A STATE AGENCY? EXACTLY. OKAY.
I'LL BE MORE TO IT, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE FOR THE MOST PART.
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COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, THANK YOU FOR THAT INSIGHT.COUNCILMAN FELIX, I JUST LIKE YOU SAYING IT COULD BE MORE INTO IT.
SO I HOPE MS.. SHERMAN WILL CONTINUE TO.
BE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES: Speakers are limited to 3 minutes.]
WHICH IN. REAL QUICK.YOU GUYS BROUGHT IT UP. I WASN'T GOING TO THE ELEVATION.
IT'S BASED ON THE HIGH WATER LEVEL THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FROM FLORIDA COMES OUT AND MEASURES FOOTNOTE, THEY CAN SUBCONTRACT THAT TO THE SEPTIC TANK COMPANY. IT'S NOT CHECKED UNTIL AFTER THE HOUSE IS BUILT.
THAT'S WHEN THEY GET THAT INFORMATION.
THE DEPTH IS 24 INCHES ABOVE THAT HIGH LEVEL WATER MARK.
THAT'S WHERE THE DRAIN FIELD HAS TO BE.
THEN THE OTHER FACTORS COME IN THE HOUSE ELEVATION, THE TANK ELEVATION TO FEED TO IT.
SO THESE HOUSES, THAT'S UP SIX FEET.
THEY'RE TRYING TO TELL ME THE WATER LEVELS TEN FEET BELOW.
I CAN DIG A HOLE IN MY YARD AND HIT WATER.
THERE'S JUST A WHOLE LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.
AND BELIEVE ME, IT TOOK ME TWO MONTHS TO FINALLY GET A HOLD OF THAT PERSON THAT KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
FIRST ONE TOLD ME IT WAS FEMA THAT SAID IT.
I SAID IN THE WAY FEMA IS INVOLVED WITH IT.
SO. MS.. SHERMAN'S EXACTLY RIGHT ON IT.
THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN I WALKED IN HERE THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS EVENING, THIS PLACE WAS FULL. RIGHT.
I MEAN, THEY HAD THEIR HEART IN IT.
WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY NOW? YOU KNOW, DID THEY STAY TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY? NO. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ONE ITEM.
SO. I JUST HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST.
BUT AGAIN, THANKS FOR SETTING UP THE MEETING.
WHENEVER YOU GUYS CAN GET IT DONE, I'LL BE GLAD TO SIT WITH YOU.
AND EACH OTHER. BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY NATHAN WHITE.
SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET.
I COULDN'T FIND ANY INFORMATION ON OFFICER ROGERS BECAUSE.
THE WEBSITES THAT I'M CURRENTLY USING.
I'M HAVING COMPUTER PROBLEMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
SO DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE SERVICE IS AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE? IF YOU COULD AT LEAST LET ME KNOW THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THIS IS A COLD. BILL BATTEN SPEAKING NOW.
THE PERSON I FEEL THE MOST EMPATHY FOR RIGHT NOW IS MELISSA ROGERS.
AND SHE WAS THE COMMUNITY COP TO 100% THE FACE WHEN YOU HAD A PROBLEM.
AND I'VE DEALT AND I'VE DEALT WITH HER AS THE BAD GUY WHEN SHE WAS COMING AFTER ME AS THE COP WITH CUFFS.
SO A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY ABOUT BILL BRATTON.
SO I HAVE DEALT THAT SIDE WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS AND I'VE ALSO DEALT WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS THE COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICER.
AND BOTH TIMES THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE BACK TO THE CITY WAS WHAT A FANTASTIC POLICE OFFICER AND I KNOW I KNOW HER FROM HER HEART SOUL THAT SHE IS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE NOW.
THAT'S WHO BILL BRATTON IS FEELING SORRY FOR RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF NATHAN WHITE.
NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
I'M. JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS, I SUPPOSE I WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NEW COUNCILMAN. AND OF COURSE.
WELL, I SUPPOSE NOT, OF COURSE.
TO DISAGREE WITH COUNCIL'S DECISIONS ON THINGS.
HE SAID TO ME RECENTLY THAT THEY VIEWED SOME OF MY COMMENTS TO COUNCIL IN THE PAST AS RUDE. I BROUGHT THIS UP TO ACTUALLY COUNCILMAN FELIX BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED.
I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY TO THE ENTIRETY OF COUNCIL AND STAFF, I DISAGREE WITH DECISIONS MADE OR NOT MADE BY THE CITY, BY INDIVIDUALS QUITE OFTEN.
IT'S NATURAL, BUT LIKE WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PARTY LINES.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS PROBABLY NO GREATER SOURCE OF PROGRESS THAN RESPECTFUL DISCOURSE. SO IF ANYONE ON THIS DIOCESE FOUND MY COMMENTS TO BE RUDE, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THINGS THAT I SAY I.
THE INTENTION, I SHOULD SAY, OR MOTIVATION I STAND BY.
OTHERWISE, I WOULD TRY NOT TO SAY IT IN GENERAL.
BUT IF MY METHODS OR MY WORD CHOICES COME ACROSS THAT WAY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
AND I SINCERELY HOPE THAT MY WORDS ARE NOT TAKEN LIKE THAT IN THAT WAY, I SHOULD SAY.
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FOR MANY OF YOU, I RESPECT YOUR DESIRE TO SERVE THE CITY AND CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DO HAVE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.WHAT A LOT OF YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE.
THE TRAFFIC RELATED AGENDA ITEM.
I'M NOT SURE I'VE EVER AGREED WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER MORE THAN WHEN HIS COMMENTS ABOUT DATA. IT IS TRUE.
IT IS. EVEN WHEN DATA CAN BE SKEWED BY INDIVIDUALS.
IT TAKES THE INDIVIDUAL DOING THAT.
LASTLY, A COMMENT OR NOT A COMMENT, A SUGGESTION PERHAPS WITH REGARDS TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY AT VETERANS PARK.
I KNOW I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO OPERATE THE LIBERTY BELL MUSEUM IN MELBOURNE AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS, PROBABLY MY FAVORITE THING THAT THEY DO IS BRING OR WELCOME IN EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, SCHOOLS, FIELD TRIP STYLE, THINGS TO BRING IN KIDS, SHOW THEM THE HISTORY THAT'S THERE ON DISPLAY AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
BRING A REAL BRING THE REALNESS OF THAT HISTORY.
WRITE TO THEM OR BRING THEM TO IT, I SUPPOSE.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE TO REACH OUT TO THE LEGIONS LIKE WE'VE SPOKEN OF, ABOUT HAVING THE AVAILABILITY, AT LEAST TO HAVE A VETERAN OR VETERANS BE AVAILABLE TO COME AND. BASICALLY GUIDE A CLASS OR FIELD TRIP AS IS REQUESTED THROUGH THAT PARK AND THROUGH THAT MEMORIAL TO JUST BRING THAT HISTORY A LITTLE CLOSER FOR THEM.
THANK YOU. IF THERE'S ANY ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI 348 BROOK STREET NORTHEAST TWO POINTS TO MAKE. THE FIRST IS FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.
IT REALLY IS A SILLY JOKE AND IT DOES HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH SEPTIC AND IT HAS EVEN WORSE YET TO DO WITH HOMES THAT ARE ON CANALS.
MY FIRST MEETING I EVER JOINED YOU GUYS, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WAS FOR A FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION VARIANCE, RIGHT? SO I'M LEARNING THE MATERIAL QUICK AND IT WAS ON ALADDIN STREET AND I'M LIKE, ALADDIN, THAT SOUNDS COOL. IT'S MY KIDS FAVORITE MOVIE.
I'M LIKE, WHERE THE HECK IS THAT? RIGHT? SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, I'M DRIVING BY MY MY CONSTRUCTION SITE.
AT THE TIME, IT'S NO SECRET WHEN I FIRST STARTED HANGING OUT WITH YOU GUYS, I WAS SHACKING UP WITH THE IN-LAWS WHILE I BUILT MY NEW HOME HERE, AND I DRIVE BY A CONSTRUCTION SITE. I'M LIKE, WOW, WHAT'S THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? OH, IT DOESN'T LINK.
SO LONG STORY SHORT, I FIGURE OUT A LOT AND DRIVE IS THE STREET BEHIND ME.
BROOK EDGE DRIVE ON CANAL 51 TO THE MELBOURNE WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.
THAT LOT THAT GOT THE VARIANCE IS THE ONE BEHIND ME.
AND THEY STARTED BUILDING THAT HOUSE LIKE FOUR MONTHS AGO AND IT IS SKY HIGH.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT WITH A ROOF ON YET BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH THE BUILDER.
HE CAN'T GET TRUSSES, WHATEVER.
SO ALL IT IS IS JUST A BLOCKED OUT HOUSE, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY WITH THIS BOOMING SITUATION WE HAVE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT THAT SOME BUILDERS GET A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THEIR SKIS, AS SOME PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS WORLD SAY.
AND WE'RE GETTING TRUSSES DROPPED OFF BEFORE DIRT'S DROPPED OFF, VICE VERSA.
WHAT HAVE YOU. I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THERE IS A LOT TO IT SCIENTIFICALLY, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE LOTS THAT ARE GETTING LOOKED AT NOW MADE IT THROUGH TWO, THREE, FIVE CONSTRUCTION BOOMS AND NOBODY WANTED TO BUILD ON THEM THEN WHEN THEY WERE MUCH CHEAPER THAN THEY ARE NOW. SO NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE COMING UP ON THESE LESS DESIRABLE LOTS THAT PROBABLY HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING BUILT ON, BUT THAT THAT ADVANCE PLANNING LACKED IN THE PAST. AND NOW HERE WE ARE.
WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND IT, AND WE'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND HOW DIRECTLY RELATED IT IS TO THE WOEFUL LACK OF SPRAWL OF OUR UTILITY SYSTEM.
I HAVE SEPTIC, I HAVE SEWER AND CITY WATER.
I PAY THE UTILITY BILL, I DO THE WHOLE NINE.
EVERYTHING GOES AWAY. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEHIND ME BY ONLY THE CANAL DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BUTTS RIGHT HERE THAT'S BEHIND BREWSTER'S DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS. YOU GO ONE BLOCK, YOU HAVE ACCESS LIKE I DO.
THAT'S WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOLUTIONS TO AT LEAST GET TO PLACES THAT ARE CLOSE.
LOCK IS ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE.
YOU'RE ON ONE SIDE OF THE TENEMENT.
EVERYBODY HAS IT. YOU'RE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE TILGHMAN WHERE LOCKMAN IS.
YOU DON'T HAVE IT. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
WE HAVE TO GET AROUND THESE FUTURE PLANNING SO THE UTILITY SPRAWL.
BUT I WANT TO TRANSITION TO PLANNING AND ZONING VERY BRIEFLY.
EVERYONE'S EXCITED ABOUT THE MAJORS, GOLF COURSE, ALL THESE FOLKS, ALL THESE WAYS THEY'RE TALKING THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE IN YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CONNECTED.
THEY'RE CORRELATED, THEY'RE ORGANIZING THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD ORGANIZE THEM, GET THEM TO CHOOSE A CENTRALIZED LEADER OR TWO AND EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.
AT THIS TIME, THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF ARE COMPLETELY HANDS TIED.
YOU GUYS CAN'T THROW AWAY THE APPLICATION THAT THIS THAT THIS DEVELOPER PUT FORTH.
THE ONLY THING YOU COULD DO IS MAKE THEM LIVE WITHIN IT.
SO THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR PUBLIC MEETING, WHICH APPARENTLY THEY'VE NOW SCHEDULED TO EVEN GET ON A P AND Z AGENDA.
WHEN THEY GET ON A P AND Z AGENDA, THIS PLACE IS GOING TO BE PACKED TO THE GILLS.
YOU TALK ABOUT SECURITY AND THINGS OF THIS SORT, THEIR SECURITY FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT THERE'S NOT SECURITY FOR P AND Z MEETINGS.
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THAT MAY BE ONE THAT YOU THINK ABOUT, BUT IF YOU TELL THE PEOPLE THEY MIGHT NOT COME AS AN ANGRY MOB, YOU TALK TO THEM.THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING MR. WHITE MENTIONED ABOUT GETTING THE AMERICAN LEGION AND VETERANS TO COME FORWARD TO.
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, SIR? YEAH. COME ON UP. I WANTED TO TRY AND GET A GRASP OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION. OH, GEEZ.
I MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN CLEAR ON THAT.
WHAT THE LIBERTY BELL MUSEUM DOES IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE DONE WITH VETERANS PARK OF HAVING VETERANS COME TO PROVIDE KIND OF AN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE TOUR OF EXACTLY BRING THE KIDS TO THE PARK THEY COME ON A FIELD TRIP OR THE LIKE.
VETERANS, AN ACTUAL VETERAN CAN TEACH THEM ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT THAT PARK IS FOR AND MEMORIALIZING IN THAT HISTORY THERE.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MAYOR I WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD, IF ANYONE WAS INTERESTED IN MR. BATTEN HAD ASKED ABOUT THE SERVICES FOR CHIEF ROGERS.
1 P.M., SIR. CENTREPOINT CHURCH.
LITTLE OFF PHARMACY OUT THERE.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.