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[00:00:02]

OKAY. IT IS 1830.

[CALL TO ORDER]

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING AT THE WATER AND I'M GOING TO ASK PHILIP WEINBERG TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

PLEASE STAND.

PAUL. MISS DANIELLE.

LOCAL CHAIRMAN.

MEDINA PRESIDENT.

VICE CHAIRPERSON. JOHNSON.

PRESIDENT. COMMISSIONER FELIX HERE.

COMMISSIONER FOSTER.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER FILIBERTO HERE.

COMMISSIONER WEINBERG, YOU'RE BAYFRONT CREW ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS HERE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO THIS, I JUST WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT I HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT.

ON THIS DAY, I'M TEACHING A HOME ATHLETICS CLASS AT A UNIVERSITY, AND SO I'M.

I MUST EXIT ABOUT 1900 HOURS.

THAT MEANING 7:00.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AT THAT POINT, WE'LL I'LL HAVE TO SURRENDER THE GAVEL.

SO I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN ANY SUGGESTIONS.

IF WE GO BEYOND THE 1900 HOURS, PERHAPS ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD WANT TO CHAIR.

I'M OPEN TO TO HEAR WHO'S GOING TO VOLUNTEER.

BEING THAT I DON'T HAVE A VOLUNTEER, I THINK I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCILMAN OR MR. FELIX. DO I GET A SECOND? I GOT. I'VE GOT A NOMINATION OF DONNIE FELIX CHANG.

THE MEETING MOVING FORWARD AFTER 1900 HOURS, SECONDED BY MR. WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

SO NOW WE'RE ON ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

I'M AS CHAIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING.

2020 202 AND 2020 203 FROM MARCH 3RD AND MARCH 17.

SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND I GOT A MOTION BY MR. FILIBERTO, SECONDED BY MR. FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR, I, I GUESS IS UNANIMOUSLY.

WHEN WE START SPEAKING, DEPUTY MAYOR OR MR. JOHNSON, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR FIRST.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. SAY IT AGAIN, SIR.

WHEN? WHEN WE BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR FIRST BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE A VISUAL OF YOU. ALL RIGHT, SIR? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[Items 1 & 2]

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE OFFER FOR CITY OWNED SURPLUS REAL ESTATE LOCATED AT 1608 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.

ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO ADD THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED A LAND SWAP PROPOSAL FOR BOTH ITEMS ONE AND TWO THE 1608 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AND THE UNASSIGNED.

THE LAND SWAP PROPOSAL IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

WE JUST WANT TO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IT AND THE BOARD WILL NOT BE VOTING ON IT OR CONSIDERING CONSIDERING THE PROPOSAL.

IT'S NOT AS IT'S NOT BEEN FULLY REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED INTERNALLY, BUT THERE IS THAT PROPOSAL AS WELL, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

SO IN THE LAND SWAP DEAL, IT WOULD INCLUDE THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS.

ONE, AN ITEM TWO.

OKAY. SO BEING THAT WE DO HAVE A NEW CONSIDERATION, GENTLEMEN, PERHAPS WE CAN MOVE THIS TO A FUTURE MEETING SO THAT WE COULD REVIEW AND PEEL BACK THE ONION, IF YOU WILL, ON EVERYTHING THAT'S.

AND PRESENTED TO US BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO PART OF THAT LAND SWAP IS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN HERE.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE. SO, GENTLEMEN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT DISCUSSION.

AND I'M GOING TO START WITH MR. JOHNSON OVER THE PHONE.

MAYOR. I ACTUALLY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IN REGARDS TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID OF GIVING STAFF TIME TO REVIEW AND EVERYTHING AND NOT ACCEPT ANY PURCHASE OFFERS AT THIS DATE.

HEY, DO I? SO YOU MADE THAT AN EMOTION, BROTHER, BECAUSE.

I'M SORRY, MR. JOHNSON.

YOU CAME IN A LITTLE.

I CAN REPEAT IT? YES, SIR.

SO IF I. IF I DO NEED A DATE, THE ACTING CITY ATTORNEY COULD CORRECT ME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOT ACCEPT ANY PURCHASE OFFERS AT THIS TIME SO THAT STAFF CAN GATHER MORE INFORMATION AND WE CAN DISCUSS AND DECIDE AT A LATER DATE.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. I'VE GOT THAT INTO MOTION.

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DO WE? I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. GOT A SECOND BY MR. WEINBERG. ANY.

LET'S DISCUSS THIS, GENTLEMEN.

ANY DISCUSSION? I SAW MR. FELIX WEIGHING IN OR MR. WEINBERG, YOU SECONDED.

WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WELL, YEAH, THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROPOSAL.

LAND SWAP, OBVIOUSLY, IT WILL AFFECT THE FIRST TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE CONTRACT OFFERS ON. AND YOU KNOW, I JUST SECONDED THAT MOTION TO TO PUT OFF ACCEPTING ANY CONTRACT UNTIL STAFF CAN DO DUE DILIGENCE ON ON YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRETTY FAR REACHING LAND SWAP AND I THINK WE NEED TO LET STAFF DO DUE DILIGENCE ON ON, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS PROPOSAL SO THAT WE CAN GIVE IT SOME INTELLIGENT CONSIDERATION.

I'LL BE THAT AND I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT.

MISS NANCY, DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON ON ANYTHING ELSE? WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND TABLE ITEMS ONE AND TWO THAT WOULD ALLOW STAFF TO LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND BRING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE.

SO THEN WE STILL HAVE ITEM THREE AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

AND I REALIZE I HAVE TO POLICE MYSELF HERE, BUT AND I'LL GET BACK TO THAT.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, RIGHT? THROUGH BUSINESS. OKAY.

WELL, IT SAID NEW BUSINESS ITEM ONE.

NO. BUT WE'RE ALREADY HERE.

THEY'RE ALREADY HERE. RIGHT.

SO, MISS, I'M GOING TO CALL UP MISS AMANDA.

HOMELESS. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS AMANDA CRUMBLES.

I LIVE AT 1395 LICK STREET, FLORIDA, 32905, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO WHERE 1608 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL IS.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT MY HUSBAND, HE OWNS HIS OWN BUSINESS.

HE WANTS AN OFFICE CLOSE BY.

I WANT HIM CLOSE BY BECAUSE MY FAMILY'S BEEN IN THE SAME LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 100 YEARS. AND I TOLD HIM, WE'RE NOT MOVING FROM IT.

SO HE DID. HE LIKED THAT SPOT.

AND WE WERE DRIVING AROUND AND WE SAW THAT IT WAS FOR SALE.

AND I THOUGHT, GREAT, THIS IS JANUARY.

AND IT WAS KIND OF DISHEARTENING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY DRAWN OUT PROCESS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT IF YOU DO WANT TO SELL THAT PROPERTY TO SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT THE AREA, I'M EMOTIONALLY INVESTED INTO PALM BAY.

I'M GOING TO STAY IN THAT AREA UNTIL I'M DEAD.

EVEN WHEN I'M DEAD, I'M BURIED AT THE SAINT JOSEPH CEMETERY IN THAT SAME SPOT, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS. SO.

THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT.

I GOT I GAVE YOU THE FEMALE'S PERSPECTIVE.

HE HAS MORE DETAILED INFORMATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

SO THAT WAY, IF WE DIDN'T GET IT, I AT LEAST PUT OUT.

MY EMOTION TOWARDS I WANT TO BE A PART OF THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE.

BE MY VALUES HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND MY GRANDPA.

I'LL SKIP THE LONG STORY.

MY GRANDMOTHER GREW UP IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE.

SHE HAD TO COME TO PALM BAY AND SHE WAS LIKE PALM BAY ROSE.

THAT WAS LIKE SCOURGE OF THE EARTH BACK THEN.

AND I WANT TO SEE THAT AREA FINALLY BECOME BEAUTIFUL.

AND I WANT TO BE A PART. I WANT TO LOOK AT A BUILDING AND SAY, THAT'S MINE.

SO. THAT IS ALL.

YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS RIGHT NOW IS FOR US TO BRING THIS BACK.

I I'LL BE HONEST, THIS IS PROBABLY ONLY TIME I CAN MAKE IT HERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'LL.

IT'LL BE IN THE FUTURE.

JUST WITH THE KIDS IN THEIR HOMEWORK ANYWAY.

I FEEL BETTER, THOUGH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO I WANT TO POLICE MYSELF.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS (NON-AGENDA ITEMS)]

I DIDN'T HAVE I SKIPPED RIGHT THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENTS MEANING NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS COMMENTS. AND I WANTED TO CALL UP MISS SUSAN CONNOLLY.

I'M SUSAN CONNELLY, 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT.

BECAUSE I LIVE IN THIS AREA TOO, AND I'VE TAKEN ON AN INTEREST IN IT, OF COURSE, AND I'M INTERESTED IN THE BAYFRONT AS I SEE COUNCIL MORE AND MORE PROPERTIES COMING UP FOR SALE THAT ARE IN THE BAY FRONT AND IN THIS AREA.

IT WORRIES ME BECAUSE.

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I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THAT.

I'M SEEING A LOT OF REQUESTS ONCE PROPERTIES ARE SOLD FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING AND AND LAND USE AND WHEN I'M NOT ABLE TO.

SEE OR GET A HOLD OF IS WHAT REALLY IS THE PLAN FOR THIS AREA IS THERE WHEN A PROPERTY IS SOLD IS IT PART OF A.

PLAN TO SELL IT OR DOES THE PLAN COME AFTER THE SALE? THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME.

IT'S SOLD. AND THEN.

THE DEVELOPERS COME OR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO USE IT.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE BAYFRONT WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE WAS THAT THE EMPHASIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE WATERFRONT AND THE NATURAL SCENERY IN A SCENIC CORRIDOR, SO TO SPEAK. BUT I'M NOT SEEING THAT AND I'M LIVING RIGHT HERE.

SO I GUESS PARTLY I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT I WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE PROCESS OF DECIDING.

AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, ARE ARE YOU FOLLOWING A PLAN AND WHERE DO I GET THE PLAN I TRIED TO FOLLOW FIND THE BAYFRONT 2024 PLAN AND I CAN'T I'M NOT GOOD AT THE TECHNOLOGY ENOUGH. SO ARE YOU ALLOWED TO ANSWER A QUESTION? DO YOU ALL HAVE AN OVERALL PLAN FOR THE AREA? YOU KNOW. THEN MEETS WATERFRONT AND SCENIC AND PEDESTRIAN.

FRIENDLY AND. BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE.

ARE YOU COMPLETED WITH YOUR COMMENTS? I THINK I AM. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

DO I GET AN ANSWER, THOUGH? I'LL ASK STEPH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'LL PROVIDE A RESPONSE.

MADAM. NANCY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO? BAYFRONT. CRA DOES HAVE A PLAN.

IT ISN'T UPDATED ANNUALLY.

OUR BAYFRONT CRA ACTUALLY EXPIRES MAY OF 2024, SO I CERTAINLY WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATED PLAN FOR YOU.

I'LL EMAIL THAT TO YOU.

AS EACH PROPOSAL COMES BEFORE THE BOARD, THEY WILL MORE THAN LIKELY ASK THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER WHAT THE INTENT OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT IS OUTLINED IN THE STATUES AS FAR AS FOR SOME KIND OF PUBLIC PURPOSE.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD WOULD DISCUSS WITH.

THANK YOU, MISS NANCY. AND IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE PASS THAT INFORMATION ON TO MS.. CONNOLLY. EITHER VIA EMAIL OR MAYBE A HARD COPY FOR HER TO BROWSE AT HER LEISURE.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[3. Consideration of a purchase offer(s) for City-owned surplus real estate located at 1626 Orange Blossom Trail NE (Parcel ID: 28-37-24-25-6-1 and Tax ID 2832602).]

AND SO, MISS NANCY, YOU WANT TO LEAD US THROUGH THAT? THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE OFFER FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1626 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AT THE MARCH EIGHT, 2011 BEACH BAYFRONT CRA BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD INITIATED APPROVAL TO PURCHASE THE 1.1919 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED AT 1626 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.

AND THIS WAS PART OF THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE BASIN THREE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS COSKEY POND.

ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2011, THE PARCEL WAS PURCHASED BY BY THE CRA FROM JOHN ROMAN TCHAIKOVSKY FOR $505,980.

IT WAS SUBDIVIDED OUT INTO THREE OTHER PARCELS, WHICH TWO OF THEM WERE.

ONE OF THEM WAS ALSO ONE THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THE UNASSIGNED AND THEN THE ONE WHERE THE POND ACTUALLY IS.

SO ON MARCH 3RD, 2022, THE CRA DECLARED THIS PROPERTY AS SURPLUS.

AND THEN ON MARCH 17, 2022, THE CITY DECLARED THIS PROPERTY AS SURPLUS.

SO THE ORIGINAL INTENT IN 2011 THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF A DOG PARK AND SOME PARKING, POSSIBLY EXPANSION OF THE POND.

AND SO DURING THIS TIME, STAFF HAS LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT THE POND ACTUALLY NEEDED TO BE EXPANDED AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE NEEDED TO BE PARKING THERE SO THAT WE DECIDED TO SURPLUS. ASK THE BOARD IF WE COULD SERVE PLUS THE PROPERTY.

SO ON FEBRUARY 24, 2022, THE CITY RECEIVED AN APPRAISAL FOR THE PROPERTY.

THE APPRAISAL WAS VALUED AT $150,000.

THE CITY'S COMMERCIAL BROKER, ONE SOTHEBY'S INTERNATIONAL, PROVIDED A REVISED BROKER PRICE OPINION, AND THAT WAS AT 149,087.

AND SO ONE SOTHEBY'S ON MARCH 18 LISTED THE PROPERTY FOR SALE.

SO IT'S BEEN LISTED FOR 32 DAYS ON APRIL 1ST, 2022.

THE CITY RECEIVED A VACANT LAND CONTRACT FROM AVALON REAL ESTATE MANAGER LLC AND THE AMOUNT OF 264,365.

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THE CONTRACT PROVIDES FOR INITIAL DEPOSIT OF 10% WITH WITH THE THREE DAYS EFFECTIVE OF THE DATE AND THE REMAINING 237 NINE 2850 TO BE PAID AT TIME OF CLOSING.

THERE'S A 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD AND THE CLOSING DATE IS ANTICIPATED TO BE AUGUST 19, 2022.

THERE'S A FEW ADDITIONAL TERMS THAT I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY GO OVER.

THE PURCHASE PRICE INCLUDES ACREAGE, WHICH IS DEPICTED IN EXHIBIT A.

THAT RIGHT HERE OF THE VACANT LONG LAND CONTRACT, IT WAS CALCULATED AT 2.89 PER SQUARE FOOT ENDING THE SURVEY.

AND AND THEN IT IS ALSO THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL TERMS. SO THERE'S SIX ADDITIONAL TERMS, THE SELLER DELIVERABLES THE SELLER IS REQUESTING WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS CERTAIN PROPERTY INFORMATION.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE TITLE POLICY SURVEYS, APPRAISALS AND SUCH.

THE THE BUYER IS ALSO LOOKING TO GET REZONING APPROVAL DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.

IF THERE'S ANY WETLAND MITIGATION, THEY WOULD LIKE TO ALSO RECEIVE THAT WETLAND MITIGATION APPROVAL PRIOR TO CLOSING.

THERE'S 30 DAYS FOLLOWING THE EXPIRATION OF THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.

IS THE DATE FOR CLOSING CONDITIONS TO CLOSING THAT THE PROPERTY BE GOOD INSURABLE AND MARKETABLE TITLE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A SECTION ON ASSIGNMENT IN SECTION SIX.

THE BUYER WILL PAY CASH FOR THE PROPERTY WITH NO FINANCING CONTINGENCY IF THE BOARD AGREES TO SELL THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.

STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE CONDITIONS INCLUDE THE SUBDIVISION OF THE PARCEL TO BE SOLELY AT THE BUYER'S EXPENSE.

ALSO, WE HAVE MEL HOWARD HERE HE IS THE CRA'S.

COMMERCIAL BROKER IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. OR MR. FELIX. THANK YOU.

NANCY, THE ADDITIONAL PARCEL THAT'S BEING REQUIRED, WHAT'S THE TOTAL VALUE AS WELL AS ACREAGE? 30, 33,000.

SO WOULD YOU WOULD YOU SAY ROUGHLY THE TOTAL WOULD BE ABOUT TWO ACRES? SOMEWHAT. 1.91.

1.19, JUST ROUGHLY.

YES, SIR. WE CHECKED WITH BRUCE MOYA, WHO DID THE POND FOR YOU? THE SITE PLAN ENGINEER.

AND NOTHING INHIBITS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY GOING TO THE POND.

SO THERE'S NOTHING UNDER IT THAT WE HAD TO WORRY ABOUT.

THERE'S NO EASEMENTS IN IT.

AND IT'S A PIECE OF LAND THAT'S JUST STICKING OUT THERE BY ITSELF THAT'LL NEVER BE SOLD.

THIS COMPANY WANTED TO BUY IT, SO THAT WAS SUCH A BONUS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE SOLD OTHERWISE.

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO IT.

THANK YOU. IT'S KIND OF LANDLOCKED.

SOMEWHAT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

LOOK. MR. FAWCETT. I'M SORRY.

AS YOU WERE. AS THE FLOOR.

NOW, MR. FAWCETT. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

SIR. WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THEM TO PARCEL TOGETHER TO 89 SQUARE FOOT? WHAT WE DID WAS THERE WAS AN APPRAISAL FOR THE PARCEL THAT WE HAVE FOR SALE AND THAT CAME OUT AT 150,000, WHICH CAME TO 289 A SQUARE FOOT.

THEN WHEN ADELINE MET WITH, I BELIEVE, DID HE MEET WITH JOAN? THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THEN THEY SAID, YES, WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SELLING THAT, BUT WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SELLING IT ONLY AT THE SAME VALUE THAT YOU'RE BUYING THE OTHER PROPERTY AT.

AND IT WAS.

GRACEFULLY ACCEPTED BY ADLON.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD DEAL.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, MR. WEINBERG. MEL, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE ACREAGE AS I UNDERSTAND, YOU DON'T HAVE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION YET BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THAT ENTIRE PARCEL.

IT HAS TO BE SURVEYED AS PART OF THAT SURROUNDING PARCEL.

THAT'S SURROUNDING PARCEL.

FIRST OF ALL, HOW IS THAT ZONED? IT'S THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, ISN'T IT? B-MOVIE. I DON'T KNOW.

I BELIEVE IT IS.

FINE CAN'T BE DEVELOPED BUT THAT THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY.

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AND I NOTICED THE THE OVERALL OFFER IS THAT TO 89 SQUARE FOOT, WHICH INCLUDES THAT ADDITIONAL PARCEL, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY A PRETTY REASONABLE OFFER SINCE THE APPRAISAL CAME IN AT ON THE 1.19 ACRE AT 290 A SQUARE FOOT.

AND THAT PROPERTY OTHERWISE MAY BE BASICALLY UNMARKETABLE OTHERWISE.

AND BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY UNMARKETABLE IN MY 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE, I WOULDN'T EVER SEE ANYONE SAY, YEAH, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE FULL PRICE FOR IT.

I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHY I WAS EXCITED TO 89 SQUARE FOOT.

IT SEEMS TO BE A PRETTY REASONABLE OFFER.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. WEINBERG. STAN FORSTER.

WHILE MR. FILIBERTO MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

NO QUESTIONS FOR ME, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MEL.

MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, MR. FILIBERTO? ANY COMMENTS? JUST A COMMENT THAT I BROUGHT UP LAST TIME TO CITY STAFF.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A MOUND OF DIRT THERE.

I DROVE BY THERE TODAY.

IT SEEMS LIKE HALF IT'S GONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS WORKED ON THAT OR NOT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BELONGS TO CITY. OR LEAVE THAT ALONE.

OR HAVE YOU. SO ARE WE GOING TO CLEAR IT OR ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE FOR THEM OR THEY'RE COME, COME STEP FORWARD, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. FILIBERTO.

YES, SIR. SUZANNE SHERMAN, CITY MANAGER.

IT IS OUR IT IS OUR DIRT.

AND WE JUST ARE USING THAT FOR DIFFERENT PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS.

WE WILL REMOVE IT IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD.

WE HAVE OTHER PLACES WE CAN TAKE THAT.

IT'S JUST A CONVENIENT LOCATION FOR US IN THAT AREA OF THE CITY.

SO. BUT IT'S OURS FOR SURE.

THANK YOU, MR. RAHMAN. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU. MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE, SIR? YES, SIR, I'M HERE. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT I DO LIKE THE DIALOG I'M HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES.

OKAY, WE'RE ON ITEM THREE, IF ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

NO, NO, SIR, I'M GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE? THE ONLY COMMENT IS I DO LIKE THE DIALOG I'M HERE AND THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED BY MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES.

BUT AT THIS TIME, I'M GOOD, SIR.

THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU.

SO, GENTLEMEN, NOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS, MY THOUGHTS ARE I THINK IT'S A GREAT DEAL FOR US, AND AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS DEAL.

MAYOR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL OFFERED BY AVALON FOR PROPERTY 1626 ORANGE.

BOSTON TRAIL NORTHEAST.

JURGEN. WE GOT A MOTION BY MR. JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MR. WEINBERG, AND I BELIEVE THAT MR. FELIX WAS GOING TO WEIGH IN AT SOME POINT.

I'D LIKE TO GIVE HIM THE FLOOR, CERTAINLY, EXCEPT I WOULD SUPPORT IT, I THINK.

I AGREE. IT'S A GREAT OFFER.

A FEW THINGS I WOULD SAY I WOULD LESSER THE DUE DILIGENCE TIME FROM CLOSING 45 DAYS, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT THE APPLICANT ASK, I DON'T THINK WE CAN. NUMBER TWO, REQUEST.

NUMBER TWO, NANCY, IF YOU'D GO OVER THAT FOR ME, PLEASE SAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE.

GROUP? YES, SIR.

YEAH. SO THE REZONING APPROVAL DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.

I BELIEVE. WELL, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE BUYER, BUT HE IS HERE.

I BELIEVE THEY WERE LOOKING AT REZONING TO B-MOVIE.

THE CURRENT ZONING. BUT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF THE REZONING THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR.

I THINK THIS IS SURPLUS LAND FOR ANOTHER PROJECT THEY'RE WORKING ON.

AS FAR AS THE DUE DILIGENCE.

WE'RE SEEING SURVEYS TAKE 12 WEEKS.

45 DAYS PROBABLY WON'T WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET A NEW SURVEY IN ORDER TO GET A NEW LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR BOTH OF THOSE PIECES.

AND WE HAVE TO SURVEY THE POND AS WELL BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A NEW LEGAL DESCRIPTION ALSO.

SO I WOULD SAY.

GIVE IT THE 90.

I'M LUCKY IF I'M GOING TO GET A SURVEY IN 90 DAYS.

TAKE MR. FOSTER. I MEAN, HE JUST SAID HE'S LUCKY IF HE GET A SURVEY IN 90 DAYS, SO WE SHOULD GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

MAYBE 120.

WE'LL TAKE IT ALSO.

BUT ADELINE IS HERE TONIGHT, SO MAYBE.

WITH 120 DAYS BE OC FOR A DUE DILIGENCE FOR YOU.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT.

NOW, 90 DAYS IS PLENTY OF TIME.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I WAS SHOOTING FOR MUCH LOWER.

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BUT SURE, WE WANT SOME COMMITMENT AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

I WANT SOME COMMITMENT.

I WANT OUT ALONE.

I MEAN, I LIKE THE OFFER.

AND WAS IT 10%? YES, SIR. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE ANCHOR A 20%.

HOW ABOUT IF THEY NORMALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PUT A SECOND DEPOSIT DOWN AFTER THE DUE DILIGENCE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE 90 WITH 20% FINAL.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF.

I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, MR. FELIX. HONORING A COMMITMENT AND MOVING FORWARD.

SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M GOING TO VALIDATE AS FAR AS AGREEING IN A POINT THAT I KNOW WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON THE CLOCK. I DON'T WANT TO TIE THEIR HANDS, THOUGH, BECAUSE MR. FOSTER IS RIGHT ON POINT.

WHAT IF THEY CAN'T DO IT? I DON'T MIND INCREASING THAT 20% RATE TO 20% INSTEAD OF THE TEN.

BUT WHAT WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF LUXURY TO GET THAT SURVEY DONE? SURVEY DONE. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK? CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? SURE. I HAVE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL TO BOTH PEOPLE, BOTH SIDES ALWAYS BEING FAIR TO THEM. ADLON HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO PALM BAY.

THEY BUILT TWO HOTELS IN FRONT OF THE BASS PRO SHOPS.

THEY HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT.

I KNOW PARASOL ISN'T IN PALM BAY, BUT THAT'S A MAJOR COMMITMENT TO WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN PALM BAY ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE EVENTUALLY WHEN THEY RETIRE.

THEY MADE ANOTHER COMMITMENT TO THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT.

THEY'RE BUILDING A HOTEL THERE NOW.

THEY'RE MAKING ANOTHER COMMITMENT TO THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND THEY PROBABLY ARE OKAY WITH 20,000 DOWN, BUT LET'S NOT MAKE IT TOO HARD ON THEM.

I WOULD JUST SAY 10% IS REALLY A HIGH DEPOSIT ON ANY PROPERTY.

I JUST PUT A PIECE OF PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT FOR $4,600,000 AND I GUARANTEE YOU NOBODY GOT A $460,000 DEPOSIT ON IT.

THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

NOW, I JUST LEARNED ABOUT THE 10% RULE FOR PALM BAY.

EVERYBODY NEEDS A 10% DEPOSIT.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

I REALLY DO. CAN I WEAR? NEVER SEE 10% ANYWHERE ELSE.

ARE YOU? BECAUSE I'LL GIVE.

GO AHEAD. CERTAINLY.

I BELIEVE I ALONG COMES TO STAY AND THEY HAVE PROVEN IT ALL.

I JUST. I'M ASKING FOR A LITTLE MORE.

THAT'S ALL IT IS FOR ME.

NO PROBLEM. I'D LOVE TO SEE 20%.

OKAY, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO COUNT OR WITH, WE CAN GO BACK TO THEM WITH THAT.

MR. FOSTER. YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE ON THE 10%.

I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR.

THEY HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT ALL OVER.

PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY.

AND THEY'RE MAKING ANOTHER COMMITMENT IN THE BAYFRONT.

AND YOU JUST MADE A BOLD STATEMENT YOU'D BE LUCKY TO GET.

GET IT DONE IN 90 DAYS.

I MEAN, SO I'M TRUSTING YOUR JUDGMENT THAT 90 DAYS DOESN'T FIT.

THIS. THE WINDOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THE PROPERTY THAT I SPOKE ABOUT THAT I HAD UNDER CONTRACT FOR $4.6 MILLION, THAT'S GOING TO A 12 WEEK PERIOD JUST TO GET A SURVEY AND A TOPO ON IT.

AND THE TOPO WENT UP TO 44,000.

SO THINGS ARE REALLY HARDER TO ACQUIRE LATELY BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE FROM SOUTH FLORIDA AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE CALLING US AND SEEING THAT PALM BAY AND MELBOURNE AND TITUSVILLE ARE REALLY INTERESTING COMPARED TO THE PRICING THAT THEY HAVE IN OTHER AREAS.

EVERY CALL I GET, NINE OUT OF TEN ARE FROM OUT OF THIS AREA CODE.

SO WE'RE REALLY ON THE RADAR AND THAT HAS CREATED SO MUCH ACTIVITY THAT WE CAN'T GET SURVEYS, WE CAN'T GET APPRAISALS, WE CAN'T GET KNOW ON PROPERTIES WITHIN ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. I CALLED, I CAN'T NAME WHO THEY ARE.

I CALLED FIVE DIFFERENT LET'S SEE SURVEYORS WHEN I SOLD A PIECE OF LAND FOR DAVID MCCALLUM ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND SOME OF THEM WEREN'T EVEN ANSWER THE PHONE ANYMORE.

AND I DON'T WANT TO NAME THEM, BUT THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY BUSY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M RUNNING INTO.

AND THE SAME WITH ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.

I'M PART OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THERE'S 36 BROKERS.

WE'RE CALLED THE COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT ROUNDTABLE.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING SINCE 1989, AND EVERYBODY IS REALLY PANICKING BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THINGS DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

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I HEAR YOU.

IT'S JUST WHAT'S GOING ON NOW.

AND ONE OTHER THING, CHAIRMAN.

THE WETLANDS PART OF THIS DEAL.

CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT FOR ME, NANCY? THE WETLANDS. WHAT THE AVALON WANTS US TO DO.

WHEN IT'S THE MITIGATE THE WETLANDS, SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO FIRST IS DISCOVER WHETHER THERE IS ANY WETLANDS, IF THEY NEEDED TO MITIGATE THEM.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT DUE DILIGENCE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WETLANDS.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

THEY ARE. THEY'RE ASKING US TO TAKE CARE OF IT, TOO.

SHOULD IT BE ANY OR. NO? NO. ACCORDING TO THEIR CONTRACT, IT'S THERE.

IT WILL BE ALL ON THEIR EXPENSE.

OKAY, I'M GOOD.

AND CAN I ADD TO THAT IF IF THERE ARE ANY WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY, SAY THEY DECIDE TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL AND IT'S FOUND THAT THERE ARE SOME WET WETLAND PLANTS ON THE PROPERTY, THEN GETTING ST JOHNS TO COME OUT THERE AND DETERMINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE MIGHT BE TOUGH. AND I KNOW THERE'S A NEW MAN WITH ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT.

I WAS AT THE MEETING THAT HE CAME AND SAID, HI, I'M NEW AND I'M RUNNING THE SHOP NOW AND AND WE'LL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING WE CAN.

WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO CALL ON HIM AND SAY, PLEASE GET OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT QUICKLY AS AS QUICK AS YOU CAN.

WE'RE WAITING ON MONTH. WE'RE WAITING ON THEM ON OTHER PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT'S HOLDING US UP. THEY'RE BUSY.

EVERYONE'S BUSY.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, CHAIRMAN.

GO AHEAD, RON. WE HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION AND HAVE SOME THINGS ADDED TO THE RECORD BECAUSE IT APPEARS THAT HE'S OPERATING AS A TRANSACTION BROKER INSTEAD OF OUR.

SINGLE AGENT BROKER.

SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD SO THAT IT'S CLEAR GUYS UNDERSTAND HOW HE'S INTERACTING. START WORKING BOTH BOTH TIMES.

AND PLEASE PUT THAT ON THE RECORD AND EXPLAIN TO THE COUNSEL TO THE.

YOUR ROLE IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THIS TRANSACTION.

IT'S A STATE LAW THAT I HAVE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL TO BOTH SIDES BECAUSE I AM IN CONTROL OF BOTH SIDES OF THE TRANSACTION.

THAT'S EASY. YOU KNOW, I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO GET IT SOLD FOR YOU.

AND DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET IT SOLD. I'M NOT LEANING ANY OTHER WAY.

SAYING IN THEIRS OR YOURS.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, RODNEY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CHAIRMAN STAN FAST.

OH, CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, SIR. MR..

WEINBERG YEAH, I TEND TO I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER FOSTER.

YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODE REQUIRES A 10% DEPOSIT.

I THINK THAT'S THAT'S REASONABLE.

THEN CERTAINLY THE POTENTIAL BUYER INCLUDED THAT IN HIS CONTRACT OFFER.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER THE CONTRACT OFFERS ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES, WHICH WE DIDN'T CONSIDER, NONE OF THEM INCLUDED THE 10% REQUIREMENT, ALTHOUGH THAT WOULD HAVE HAD TO CHANGE. BUT BUT HE'S MAKING A COMMITMENT WITH THE 10% REQUIREMENT IN REAL ESTATE.

THAT'S REALLY, REALLY A HIGH BAR TO SET.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S ACCORDING TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

SO I THINK IT'S REASONABLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

MR. WEINBERG, YOU SECONDED THE MOTION.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MADE THE MOTION.

SO WE'RE AT THE 90 DAY PHASE AND THE 10% DOWN THAT THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION.

SO I'M GOOD.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

SO, MR. FOSTER, 90 DAYS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION.

AND THE 10% DOWN IS IS PART OF THE MOTION.

AND I A.

PERMISSION OF JOHNSON TO MEND HIS MOTION 120 DAYS.

MR. JOHNSON WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE SECOND REMOVED FOR THAT.

MR. JOHNSON. ARE YOU WILLING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? I WAS FINE WITH THE 90 DAYS.

YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE BOARD.

IT'S A BOARD LIKE.

YEAH, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO DO 120, THEN I'LL SUPPORT IT.

BUT I'LL FIND THE WAY THE MOTION WAS MADE.

SO EITHER WAY, CHAIR WOULD GO IN 90.

I THINK I'M GETTING THUMBS UP EVEN WITH MR. FELIX AND MR. WEINBERG AND I AGREE.

I THINK 90 DAYS IS IS REASONABLE.

OKAY. SO I GOT A MOTION AND A MOTION BY MR. JOHNSON SINGING BY MR. WEINBERG ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO PASS ON THE GAVEL TO MR. FELIX. THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT SIX YEAR OLD BUSINESS COUNCIL.

THAT'S RIGHT. ANY ANY COUNCIL REPORT.

I MEAN, SHOULD I SAY.

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OH, I MENTION A REPORT THIS YEAR.

YOU GET ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THOSE CAME IN LIKE THAT? SHE REPORTS. NONE.

SPENCER. MR. JOHNSON? NOTHING.

BUT I HAVE NOTHING.

ANY FINAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ONE I JUST WANTED. AS A REMINDER, THE NEXT C.R.A.

MEETING IS AT 530.

IT'S IN THE BUDGET.

MR. JOHNSON, DID YOU HEAR THAT? SAY IT AGAIN. NEXT C.R.A.

MEETING FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS AT 530 MAY 5TH.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ACTING CHAIR.

HELLO. SUSAN CONNOLLY AGAIN.

I'M STILL.

I'M. I'LL GET THE THE PLAN.

BUT IT STILL SEEMS TO ME AFTER ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS AND OTHER MEETINGS, THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE LANDS ARE DECLARED SURPLUS THAT THE CITY.

LOSES CONTROL OF THEM IN A WAY WHEN THEY'RE SOLD, EVEN THOUGH YOU ASK WHAT THE PERSON IS GOING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY.

I'VE SEEN THEM COME OVER AND OVER AND THEY DECLARE IT AND COME AND THAT CAN CHANGE BETWEEN WHAT IS TOLD YOU AT THE SALE AND HOW IT ULTIMATELY ENDS UP.

AND I GUESS I JUST KEEP COMING BACK THAT THIS IS SUCH A UNIQUE AREA.

THIS IS OUR NATURAL.

THIS IS A GIFT.

THIS IS. I IDEALLY I WISH THE CITY WOULD KEEP THESE PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BE REPLACED AND.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT.

AS I CONTINUE TO WATCH AND LOOK AND AS YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE DECISIONS TO CHANGE LAND USE AND CHANGE ZONING, THAT IT STILL SEEMS TO BE VERY FRAGMENTED AND IT STILL SEEMS TO LACK VISION FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING BUSINESSES FOR A WATERFRONT, IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING BUYERS AND THE USE.

THANK YOU. Q.

ANYONE ELSE. SOURCE SEEING.

NONE. MEETINGS ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.