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OKAY. LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING 2020 204 OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20TH, AT 6 P.M..
ELENA, COULD WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? SURE. MISS TIBER.
MISS, RIGHT. AND THE BOARD'S ATTORNEY, RODNEY EDWARDS, HERE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THEN WE HAVE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FOR SPECIAL MEETING 2020
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203 ON MARCH 1ST.MOTION TO ADOPT SPECIAL MEETING MARCH 1ST.
MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I, I, I VOTE I.
ANY OPPOSE THAT MOTION CARRIES.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? HE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE UP ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, THE FISCAL YEAR
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23 TO 27, CONSOLIDATED PLAN PUBLIC MEETING.SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, THE BREVARD COUNTY CONSORTIUM.
SO BREVARD COUNTY, COCOA, TITUSVILLE, MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING OUR FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
AND PART OF THAT AND OUR ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING AND PART OF THAT PROCESS REQUIRES US TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE WE SOLICIT INPUT FROM PUBLIC SERVICE PROVIDERS AND THE PUBLIC ON OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR OUR PRESENTATION VIA ZOOM FROM THE CONSULTANT CLOUDBURST, WHO IS DOING THE THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN WRITING ON BEHALF OF THE BREVARD COUNTY CONSORTIUM. SO I'M JUST GOING TO JOIN IN VIA ZOOM AND THEY'LL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS OF THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING AND THEN ASK SOME QUESTIONS AT THE END. AND THEN AT THAT TIME, ANYBODY IS OPEN TO GIVE THEIR INPUT ON THE PLAN AND WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE OTHER MEETING.
BUT THIS IS JUST THE THE FIRST PUBLIC MEETING THAT THE CITY IS HAVING.
HI, SANDRA. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. BEHIND.
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DO.OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY.
OKAY. OKAY, LET'S BE A LITTLE BIT ODD, PERHAPS, BUT.
SANDRA. SO IF YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING, FINE.
SO NICE TO SEE YOU ALL, BUT NICE TO TALK WITH YOU ALL THIS AFTERNOON.
IT'S 6:00 THERE, 3:00 HERE WHERE I AM ON THE WEST COAST.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME. SO I AM JOEL.
I AM WITH FIRST CONSULTING GROUP.
WE WERE HIRED BY THE HOME CONSORTIUM OF CLARK COUNTY.
WE ARE HELPING SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONSORTIUM ON PLAN FOR THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN, AS WELL AS THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.
BUT WE DIDN'T FIND WORK FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO GET TO KNOW A NEW COMMUNITY, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR FEEDBACK AND IF WE CAN'T GET THE AUDIO WORKING TODAY, SANDRA HAS THESE SLIDES AT THE VERY END.
WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.
SO IF WE CAN'T TALK THROUGH THOSE OR I CAN HEAR YOU GETTING FEEDBACK, IT'S GREAT TO HEAR SANDRA. OKAY.
SO REALLY HIGH LEVEL HERE PRETTY QUICK ON THESE.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO.
OKAY. SO THE GENERAL PURPOSE OF THE PLAN IS REALLY.
THIS PRESENTATION IS FROM THE HOME CONSORTIUM PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN I SAY COUNTY HERE, I MEAN THE HOME DOLLARS AND THE HOME CONSORTIUM.
SO THE COMPLAINT IS REALLY THE PLACE WHERE THE COUNTY, THE HOME CONSORTIUM WITH THE CITIES EXPLAINED TO HUD WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO.
SO EACH CITY GETS THEIR OWN CDBG DOLLARS ALL DAY.
AS YOU KNOW, COUNTY GETS THEIR OWN TITUSVILLE BOARD AND COCOA ALL GET THEIR OWN.
SO WHEN I SAY OPEN SOURCE CONFLATE AND THIS IS THE EXPLANATION TO HUD OF WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH THEIR HOME.
SO THIS VERY FIRST PLANNING PHASE, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE NOW, WE'RE DOING MEETINGS, TALKING WITH FOLKS, TALKING WITH STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, LOOKING AT EXISTING PLANS, REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND ON THE GROUND.
AND ONCE WE FIGURE OUT GET A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT THESE ARE, HOW HOME AND CDG FIT TO THAT WE'LL START TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITY SETTING GOALS.
THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH FUNDING TO GO AROUND THE ALL OF THE NEED, WHICH IS WHY THIS SUPPORT PRIORITY IS SO IMPORTANT.
THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'LL BE HAVING LATER IN MAY, PROBABLY ONCE WE MOVE THROUGH THIS FIRST PART. UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS PLANNING PHASE.
SO HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE'LL HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEEDS.
THIS IS REALLY WHEN WE IDENTIFY.
WE START TO OUTLINE WHAT OTHER FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO LEVERAGE, AND THOSE FUNDS ARE POPULAR THERE. THEY SEEM REALLY FLEXIBLE AND GREAT.
WE'LL TRY TO HAVE OTHER FUNDS TO HELP MEET SOME OF THE NEEDS FOR WORK ALONGSIDE HOME.
CRAIGSLIST. AND IN THIS IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, THIS IS REALLY JUST CONTINUING THE WORK WE DO IN THIS LAST BIT OF LAND.
SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHAT THE NEEDS AND GOALS ARE.
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THIS IS REALLY WHEN WE KNOW THE ALLOCATION FROM HUD, WE KNOW X NUMBER OF DOLLARS.WE'VE IDENTIFIED PARTNERS THAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS, SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES THAT MEET AND ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.
SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL ASPECTS OF THE COMP PLAN.
SO ENGAGEMENT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
SO WE'RE DOING THE WHOLE CONSORTIUM PLAN.
SO WE'RE DOING ENGAGEMENT COUNTY WIDE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE EXISTING STRATEGIC PLANS, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, TRANSPORTATION PLANS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT OUTLINE HOW FUNDING SHOULD BE SPENT AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE INFORMING ALL THE BITS OF WORK, TALKING WITH RESIDENTS, TALKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS.
I'VE DONE SOME STAKEHOLDER SESSIONS ON FAIR HOUSING, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN ONE ON.
THEIR HOUSE. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SURVEY RESULTS.
EACH CITY, YOU MIGHT KNOW, DID THEIR OWN SURVEYS AND THE COUNTY DID A SURVEY FOR ANALYZING THOSE RESULTS, KIND OF REFLECTING THOSE THESE SESSIONS AS WELL, TO SEE IF THOSE KIND OF JIBE WITH WHAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THEN THAT WORK REALLY FEEDS INTO THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT MARKET ANALYSIS OF.
THIS IS A VERY DATA HEAVY SECTION FOR THE HOME CONSORTIUM PLAN.
FOR LOOKING AT HOUSING MARKET TRENDS, LOOKING AT DEMOGRAPHICS, WHICH IS MORE ABOUT SPECIAL NEEDS, SOCIOECONOMICS, LOOKING AT WHERE THOSE FOLKS LIVE, IF THEY ARE KIND OF ISOLATED TO CERTAIN CENSUS TRACTS, KIND OF FIGURING THAT OUT.
AGAIN, THIS IS CONSORTIUM WIDE.
AND THEN PALM BAY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN TARGET AREAS TO WITHIN.
SO REALLY THAT ONE THIS ENGAGEMENT WORK WITH THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND MARKET ANALYSIS REALLY FEED INTO THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS PLAN, WHICH IS THIS STRATEGIC PLAN.
THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE'RE TELLING HOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE PLAN TO DO OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, HIGH LEVEL.
AND THEN REALLY WE'RE FUNNELING THAT DOWN INTO THIS ACTION PLAN.
SO WE'RE TELLING HUD, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR WITH HOW MANY FUNDS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? WHO'S ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT PROJECT? THIS SLIDE LOOKS PRETTY MESSY.
THIS IS ONE THAT I USE FOR SYSTEMS TRAINING, FOR IDEAS.
BUT I THINK IT'S STILL HELPFUL KIND OF PLACE WHERE THESE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PIECES FIT TOGETHER. SO THAT FIRST TOP RED BAR IS THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
ALL THE THINGS BELOW IT ARE CONSIDERED PART OF CONSOLIDATED.
SO THAT STRATEGIC PLAN IS THAT FIVE YEAR HOMELESSNESS ASSESSMENT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE THINGS THAT IMPACT HOW HOW YOU SPEND DOLLARS, CDBG HOME DOLLARS. WE'RE IDENTIFYING WHAT WE EXPECT TO HAVE OVER FIVE YEARS, WHAT WE THINK THOSE NEEDS ARE OVER FIVE YEARS.
BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE WHOLE MENU OF NEEDS WE THINK RIGHT NOW AND WE'LL PRIORITIZE THOSE OVER THE LIFE OF THE.
DESPITE YEARS. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ANNUAL ACTION PLAN STILL FITS UNDER THE UMBRELLA PLAN.
JUST THINK OF IT AS LIKE THE YEAR ONE.
THE VERY SPECIFIC PART OF THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AND YOU'LL DO AN ACTION PLAN IN 2 TO 3 FOUR.
THIS IS LIKE. SO FINALLY TO THE SIDE.
SO IT'S REALLY HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION OVER HERE ON THE LEFT.
AND SLOWLY, SLOWLY GETTING THE NITTY GRITTY WHERE YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES YOU'RE GETTING DOWN TO. ACTUAL DRAWDOWNS FROM HUD FUNDING INACTIVITY.
SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR PLAYER.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL, BUT BEFORE I GO ON THERE, QUESTIONS NOW.
NO QUESTIONS. I WILL MOVE ON TO FAIR HOUSING.
SO THIS IS THE ASSESSMENT OF YOUR HOUSING.
I THINK MAYBE IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN CALLED THE ANALYSIS OF IMPEDIMENTS TO FAIR HOUSING.
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IT'S A VERY SIMILAR DOCUMENT ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.IT JUST GOES INTO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DETAIL.
IT INCLUDES SOME ADDITIONAL DATA ANALYSIS.
AND REALLY THE BIG PART, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM ANALYSIS OF IMPEDIMENTS, WHICH YOU MIGHT KNOW IN THE ROOM IS THE ACTIONS, THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING OR THE AFFICHE REALLY DRILLS DOWN TO IDENTIFYING FACTORS, NOT JUST IMPEDIMENTS TO IDENTIFYING WHAT'S CAUSING AN ISSUE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY ACTIONS IN HOW TO ALLEVIATE.
FACTOR. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS REALLY.
COUNTY AND EACH CITY IN THE CONSORTIUM ARE REQUIRED TO AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING, WHICH MAY BE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SHORT TERM IN HUD LANGUAGE IS THE AFAIK, NOT THE FHA. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THE FHA, WHICH IS AFFIRMATIVELY, AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING, IT'S AN OBLIGATION THAT EACH CITY HAS TO UNDERTAKE.
THE ASSESSMENT OF THEIR HOUSING IS HOW THE COUNTY AND THE CITY WILL FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATION. TO FURTHER THEIR HOPES.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN THE CONFLUENT DATA UNDERSTANDING NEEDS AND THE IS PLANNING PROCESSES A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY STARTED TO TAKE INTO SOME OF THIS DATA YET, BUT AS WE GATHER NEEDS FOR THE COMP PLAN, ALL OF THAT WORK WILL INFORM THE FH IN THIS PLANNING PHASE.
SOME KEYWORDS TO LOOK AT HERE REALLY THAT ASSESS DISPARITIES.
A HUGE PART OF THE ACA IS IDENTIFYING WHAT THE DISPARITIES ARE BETWEEN CENSUS TRACTS, BETWEEN GROUPS, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FACTORS ARE THAT ARE HAVING THAT TAKE PLACE. WE'RE ASSESSING DISPARITIES, IDENTIFYING THE FACTORS THAT CREATE THOSE DISPARITIES, AND THEN WE'RE DEFINING GOALS.
THE DEFINING GOALS IN HOW TO BEST ADDRESS THE DISPARITIES SO SIMILAR TO THE PLAN THAT PLANNING PHASE RECALL WERE STARTING TO IDENTIFY PARTNERS FUNDING SIMILAR HERE, STARTING TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE GOALS ARE AND WHO CAN HELP THOSE.
IMPLEMENTATION. THERE'S NO STRICT FUNDING THAT COMES WITH THE AFAIK AS IT DOESN'T COMPLAINT COMPLAINTS MORE OF AN APPLICATION TO RECEIVE FUNDING.
IT SAYS A FAIR HOUSING IS MORE.
YOU'RE TELLING HUD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FURTHER FAIR HOUSING.
THERE'S NO STRICT DOLLAR ATTACHED TO THIS DOCUMENT.
BUT EVEN STILL, YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY PARTNERS TO HUD AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THESE DISPARITIES.
AND TWO SLIDES HERE, JUST KIND OF GO INTO A BIT MORE DETAIL ON WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE'VE NOT STARTED TO REALLY DIG INTO THIS DATA.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE DATA COLLECTION PHASE.
SO AS YOU LOOK AT THESE, DON'T THINK THESE ARE THE ONLY THINGS TO CONSIDER OR LOOK INTO.
IF YOU HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IMPACTFUL IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT BE CAUSING A DISPARITY IN ACCESS TO ANYTHING OF THAT DATA.
SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GO OVER THINGS EITHER DIRECTLY TO BE INVOLVED AT THE END OR THROUGH ME OR THROUGH SANDRA.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT HUD HAS IN THEIR HOUSING PLANNING GUIDE THAT YOU MUST LOOK AT.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE BARE MINIMUM.
WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER THINGS AS WE'RE CONSIDERING ACCESS TO EDUCATION.
BY CENSUS TRACT BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT WHO HAS ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION, IMPACTS, ACCESS TO THOSE JOBS.
ARE THERE PARKS, OTHER GREEN SPACES? ARE THERE COMMUNITY CENTERS? IS THERE ACCESS TO THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS THROUGHOUT LOW POVERTY NEIGHBORHOODS? OR ARE THERE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE HIGH POVERTY? WE ALSO HAVE NO ACCESS TO SOME OF THESE EVENTS.
THE LAST SLIDE HERE. SO VERY SIMILAR.
BUT WHEREAS THIS IS LOOKING AT KINDS OF ACCESS.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE KINDS OF FACTORS THAT MIGHT INHIBIT ACCESS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE, ZONING LAWS, LENDING, DISCRIMINATION, THAT THERE'S SOME DATA SETS OUT THERE THAT CAN TELL US WHO'S BEING DENIED MORTGAGES AND AT WHAT RATES.
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WE CAN LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION MAPS, SEE WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS MIGHT HAVE LESS OR LIMITED TRANSPORTATION ACCESS, IMPEDIMENTS TO MOBILITY.SO THERE'S A BUS ROUTE THAT IS ACCESSIBLE RUN DURING NORMAL WORK HOURS.
AND THIS HIGH HOUSING COST IS KIND OF ALL INCLUSIVE.
AS YOU KNOW, I'M OUT HERE IN THE SEATTLE AREA.
SO THE HOUSING MARKET IS DIFFICULT TO CONTAIN SO MANY BARRIERS.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THIS HIGH HOUSING COSTS, BUT WE'LL LOOK AT MULTIPLE FACTORS OF RENTER OWNERSHIP.
THIS IS THE PRETTY BROAD CATEGORY.
LET'S SEE. TAKING A LITTLE STEP BACK AND TIMELINES.
THIS IS PRETTY TIGHT, BUT THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE A DRAFT OF THE CONFERENCE SUMMARY BY THE MIDDLE OF MAY.
MANY HAVE COMPLETED THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THE MARKET ANALYSIS HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE BY THE MIDDLE OF MAY.
IT WILL HAVE SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS VERY LATE MAY KIND OF REFLECTING BACK TO COMMUNITIES WHAT WE'VE HEARD THE COUNTY AND THEN THAT PUBLIC DRAFT IS MADE AVAILABLE EARLY JUNE.
AND IT'S A 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD.
SO BY THE END OF JUNE, WE'RE THAT COMMENT PERIOD OF RESPOND TO COMMENTS AS AS WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY LAST EDITS AND THEN SUBMIT THAT PLAN NO LATER THAN.
AND IT'S ABOUT A MONTH BEHIND RIGHT NOW BEHIND A PLAN.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OVERLAP IN MARCH AND APRIL OF DATA ACCESS.
SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT CONFLATED DATA RIGHT NOW THAT WILL INFORM THE AF, BUT WE'VE NOT SORT OF DRAFTED.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER THE FAIR HOUSING OR THE SCHEDULE.
JUST TO GET A MORE, I GUESS, FOR EVERYBODY HERE, A COMPREHENSIVE DEFINITION OF FAIR HOUSING. YOUR DEFINITION OF FAIR HOUSING? MAYBE ONE MORE.
A NO READ JUST TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I BELIEVE IT'S DIFFERENT TOO. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I FULLY UNDERSTAND FAIR HOUSING. OKAY.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO TYPE IT IN.
OR JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT DOES HAVE TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF WHAT FAIR HOUSING IS.
BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS I KNOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND FAIR HOUSING, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING OF FAIR HOUSING SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HE'S.
THEY DIDN'T HEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
OKAY. I SEE IT. SO CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF FAIR HOUSING IN GENERAL? YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.
SO. BROADLY THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, AND I CAN SEND MORE INFORMATION THAT I THINK WILL BE HELPFUL. SO I TOOK OUT SOME SLIDES THAT I THOUGHT MAYBE WE'RE TOO IN THE WEEDS OF THE DEFINITION OF FAIR HOUSING, COMPLEX PERSPECTIVE VERSUS WHAT THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING LOOKS AT. THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
FAIR HOUSING AND COMES FROM THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, WHICH PROTECTED CLASSES THAT DID NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST BASED ON THEIR PARTICULAR CLASS.
SO THE DEFINITION OF FAIR HOUSING FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IS YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE BASED ON RACE, RELIGION, ETHNICITY, GENDER.
THERE IS FAIR HOUSING ACTIVITIES THAT ARE FUNDED.
THOSE FAIR HOUSING ACTIVITIES ARE OFTEN FAIR HOUSING TESTING, WHICH IS USUALLY TWO PRONGED. IT'S USUALLY ADMINISTRATIVE.
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SO AN AGENCY AND I'M AWARE THAT THERE USED TO BE A FAIR HOUSING CONTINUUM THERE.THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NO LONGER EXISTENCE.
WE'VE MET WITH THE SORT OF COMMUNITY LEGAL SERVICES LAST WEEK, LEARNS MORE ABOUT THAT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY MAY BE STEPPING IN TO DO SOME OF THIS TESTING FOR HOW I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S TWO APPROACHES, SO THERE'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE WHERE THEY LOOK AT MAYBE A RENTAL COMPLEXES POLICIES THAT THEY POST ONLINE WHERE THEY ADVERTISING TO.
ARE THEY SAYING NO FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN? ARE THEY SAYING.
OTHER SUBTEXT THAT MIGHT BE TRYING TO ELIMINATE STUDENTS OR TRYING TO ELIMINATE CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DOING THAT, THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY HIRE PEOPLE TO TEST A RENTAL APPLICATION, TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS TO HOUSING AND SEE IF THERE IS DISCRIMINATION THERE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE PLAN MEETS THEIR HOUSING.
THAT'S A LITTLE HELPFUL IN THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.
IT GOES INTO MUCH GREATER ANALYSIS OF.
THE DEFINITION OF WHAT FAIR MEANS FAIR IN THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING CONTEXT IS GETTING MORE TO.
IS THERE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE THINGS THAT WOULD INCREASE SOMEONE'S STABILITY? SO IS THERE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO QUALITY HOUSING, EQUITABLE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACES, TO JOBS? THAT KIND OF.
BEFORE I WENT OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YES, VERY. BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT FAIR HOUSING MEANS ALSO A NATION, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND TWO OTHER SIDES THAT YOU CAN SHARE THAT HAVE KIND OF THE HISTORY OF FAIR HOUSING DEFINITION AND HOW IT'S EVOLVED FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS.
I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT. I UNDERSTAND.
I HAVE ONE. HE MENTIONED THE MIDDLE OF MAY AS AN IDEA AS TO WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE THAT.
CAN YOU ASK HIM IN THAT, I GUESS ELABORATE ON THE TARGET AREAS? IS HE WOULD HE BE REFERRING TO LIKE NORTHEAST, BOMBAY, SOUTHEAST, OR IS THERE SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC? IT ALREADY IS. OKAY.
TO THE QUESTION, IT SAYS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT TARGET AREAS AND HOW WE IDENTIFY THEM? I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T.
BAY IDENTIFIES YOUR TARGET AREAS.
BUT I KNOW FOR THE COUNTY THIS IS WHAT THE HOME CONSORTIUM PERSPECTIVE IS MORE INVOLVED IN RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THEY HAVE SEVEN TARGET AREAS.
THEY'VE HAD THOSE TARGET AREAS FOR AT LEAST TWO POINT CYCLES.
AND FROM HOW WE UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT NOW IS THEY WERE FORMED DUE TO SOME SOME METRIC OF LOW INCOME HOUSING INCOME FAMILIES, RATHER SORRY, NOT LOW INCOME HOUSING, WORKING FAMILIES LIVING IN THAT CENSUS TRACT.
YEAH. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNTY HAS OPTED TO DO AS WELL.
I THINK THAT SEEMS PRETTY REASONABLE TO ME.
I DO THINK, THOUGH, THERE'S ROOM TO ALWAYS REEXAMINE HOW YOU DETERMINE THE TARGET AREA AND. IT'S THE FUNDING BEING TARGETED THERE CONTINUES CONTINUES TO MAKE SENSE FOREVER OR WHAT THE FUNDING IN THE PAST HAS DONE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THERE THAT HAVE MADE A TARGET IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO I THINK THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING, THAT BE A REALLY GOOD DATA SET AND NARRATIVE TO KIND OF HELP THINK THROUGH.
FUNDING. IT'S THE QUESTION DIRECTLY.
I DON'T HAVE A SUPER GREAT ANSWER.
THE COUNTY HAS OPTED TO CHOOSE THEIR TARGET AREAS BASED ON LOW INCOME FAMILIES, I THINK, AND THEY'VE OPTED TO CONTINUE THOSE SAME AREAS.
IT'S I'M CURIOUS IF AREAS LIKE THE COMPOUND THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED YET, IF THOSE WOULD END UP BECOMING TARGETS AS FAR AS DOING THAT BUILDING PART OR IF THAT'S MORE RELATED TO.
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JUST FOCUSING ON WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.SO WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU CANNOT USE CDBG DOLLARS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION SO YOU CAN FOR HOME. HOWEVER, IN THE COMPOUND, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE AREN'T UTILITIES OUT THERE AND WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION HOMES WHERE THERE ISN'T UTILITIES AVAILABLE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
THE QUESTION, WILL THIS ASSESSMENT DETERMINE OR GIVE US AN IDEA OF SUCCESS RATE? YOU MENTIONED HAVING NORTHEAST IN THE IN TWO CYCLES NOW.
IS THERE ANY EVALUATION OF SUCCESS WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE ASSESSMENT ADDRESS, ANY OF THAT? SO YES, YOU WIN.
WE HAVE TO ENTER IN THE THE ACTIVITIES AND THE PROJECTS INTO.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SYSTEM.
WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHETHER IT'S CITYWIDE OR WHETHER IT'S AT OUR TARGET AREA IN THE NORTHEAST SO WE CAN PULL INFORMATION FROM THE PAST PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED TO DETERMINE WHERE THOSE FUNDS WENT.
USUALLY PUBLIC SERVICES ARE CITYWIDE, SO YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT AS FAR AS PUBLIC SERVICES ARE CONCERNED. YOU WOULD SEE IT MORE IF YOU DID PUBLIC AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS IN A NORTHEAST AREA, IF YOU DID ANY DEMOLITION, IF YOU DID ANY SAY SIDEWALK REPAIR OR STREET REPAIRS. I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY DONE A WHOLE LOT OF THAT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
IF THERE'S BEEN A COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION, ANY PARKS THAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE FUNDED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS THAT WERE IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION.
THAT'S THE KIND OF INFORMATION I CAN PULL FROM IDEAS AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN WHERE, WHAT FUNDS HAVE BEEN IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION AND WHAT WERE THEY FOR? I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN REALLY.
I TELL YOU, SUCCESS BASED ON MUCH OR WHAT SUCCESS INFORMATION YOU WOULD WANT.
IT'LL JUST TELL US WHAT WE FUNDED AND WHERE WE FUNDED TO.
WE'D HAVE TO TRY AND FIND SOME OTHER SOURCE OF DATA TO FIGURE OUT.
WHAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE KEEP IT'S LIKE YOU'RE THROWING MONEY.
AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY HAS AN AREA THAT THEY HAVE HAD TO CYCLES.
SO I COULD IMAGINE DOING THIS JUST FOR DOING IT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT IS SUCCESS, WHAT IS IT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND DID WE ACHIEVE IT? SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME MATRIX OR SOMETHING IN THERE TO GIVE US.
OKAY. WE ELIMINATED, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HOUSING ISSUES OR CONCERNS.
THERE WAS 15, NOW THERE ARE ONLY 25, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE MATRIX IS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MEAN, WHERE IS IT GOING AND HOW IS IT REALLY, REALLY HELPING? I MEAN, YOU CAN WITH THE DATA THAT WE WILL HAVE, IT WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE SERVED, WHAT KIND OF SERVICES THEY WERE PROVIDED, WHAT? SO IF IT WAS A, SAY, A COMMUNITY CENTER AND IT WAS IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION AND THEY.
DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO CERTAIN SERVICES.
AND NOW THEY DO. THAT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NOW THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A SERVICE THEY DIDN'T BEFORE OR IF THEY.
CORRECT. YOU'RE RIGHT. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE HAD FUN EVANS CENTER NOW THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO GROCERY OR FRESH ROUTES OR A CENTER.
SO NOW WE KNOW THAT THAT AREA NOW SERVES 100 PEOPLE AND THAT NEED HAS BEEN SOLVED NOW ON THE NEXT PROJECT.
YES. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I BELIEVE THE NORTHEAST SECTION WAS ALSO CHOSEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF OUR LOW INCOME CENSUS TRACTS LIE, AND THEREFORE THAT IS WHERE.
THE GREATEST NEED WAS MET BECAUSE OF OUR DETERMINED TO BE THE AREA OF GREATEST NEED, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE MOST OF OUR LOW INCOME CENSUS TRACTS ARE.
AND SO FOCUSING YOUR THE FUNDS THAT WE DO HAVE IN AN AREA WHERE IT IS LOW, THE MOST LOWER INCOME WOULD SATURATE THAT AND HELP THAT MORE.
SO I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THE HISTORY OF THAT THE NORTHEAST SECTION IS.
BUT WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSULTANTS SINCE I KNOW I HAVE TO TYPE IN THE QUESTIONS. TO CONFIRM A CYCLE IS FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENT CON PLAN AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE NEW ONE DUE TO COVID, THEY ACTUALLY GAVE EVERYBODY A EXTENSION.
SO TECHNICALLY, WE'RE IN OUR SIXTH YEAR GOING ON AND THEN WE'LL BE STARTING A NEW ONE IN
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2020, OCTOBER OF 2022.SO YES, IT'S NORMALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS.
COVID, THEY HAD GAVE US AN EXTENSION ON A SIXTH YEAR, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE IN OUR SIXTH YEAR OF OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN.
DO WE HAVE DATES OR PRELIMINARY DATES FOR MEETINGS FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS YET OR THAT'S TOO EARLY? I BELIEVE THE NEXT PUBLIC MEETING I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY HAVE DURING OUR NEXT CDB MEETING IN MAY AND IT WILL BE MORE WIDELY PUBLICLY NOTICED.
THIS IS JUST A VERY PRELIMINARY ONE, BUT THE NEXT ONE IS ALSO WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE PRIORITIES AND AS A RESULT OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEYS THAT WE HAD OUT.
BUT WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR CONSULTANTS BEFORE I LET THEM GO? YES. OH, YES.
I'M SORRY. COULD YOU PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND THEN.
YES. SO, ELENA, DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD THAT SHE COULD FILL OUT, PLEASE? YEAH, GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS SUHAIL CUEVAS, AND I CAME FROM A FAIR HOUSING AGENCY, FAIR HOUSING CONTINUUM.
THEY'RE CLOSED. SO THERE'S ANY OTHER AGENCY.
I KNOW AT ONE TIME WE WERE TAKING COMPLAINTS FOR FAIR HOUSING ACCESSIBILITY, HOME MODIFICATION PROGRAMS. AND IT SEEMS LIKE BABAR DOES BESIDES FLORIDA LEGAL SERVICES, I KNOW THEY DO COVER BREVARD COUNTY FOR FAIR HOUSING COMPLAINTS, BUT THERE'S ANY OTHER AGENCY THAT ARE TAKING THOSE COMPLAINTS. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER AGENCY THAT'S TAKING FAIR HOUSING COMPLAINTS? CORRECT. UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CONSULTANT, BUT I CAN ASK, AND IF I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TODAY, I CAN DEFINITELY TAKE DOWN YOUR INFORMATION AND GET BACK TO YOU. BESIDES FLORIDA COMMUNITY LEGAL SERVICES, BECAUSE WE USED TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE, I WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY.
I WORK WITH THIS RESOURCE CENTER FOR DISABILITY SOLUTIONS.
WE ASSIST ALL PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAD AS A FAIR HOUSING AGENCY DISABILITY WAS NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT BECAUSE OF ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES.
AND WE DO HAVE A HOME MODIFICATION PROGRAM WHICH PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD OR THERE'S ANY OTHER AGENCY BESIDES OUR AGENCY, RESOURCE CENTER FOR DISABILITY SOLUTION OR A CENTER FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING, WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER AGENCY IN BREVARD COUNTY BESIDES ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES COMPLAINTS.
AND WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT ORGANIZATION? I JUST HAVE TO TYPE IT OUT. I'M SORRY.
LET ME GO BACK. I USED TO WORK WITH THE FAIR HOUSING.
YOU USED TO EMPLOY THE FAIR HOUSING LAW USED TO DO TESTING ALL THAT.
WE USED TO TAKE COMPLAINTS AND WE ENFORCE THAT LAW.
BUT SINCE THEY'RE CLOSED, THERE WAS NO OTHER AGENCY TO TAKE THOSE.
I KNOW IF ANY OTHER OF ANY AGENCIES OF OUR COUNTY WHO ARE TAKING SIDES.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WAS THERE ARE ANY OTHER AGENCY PROVIDING HOME MODIFICATION PROGRAM PROGRAM FOR US DISABILITY? OUR CONSULTANT IS OUT OF SEATTLE, SO HE MAY NOT KNOW THAT, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INFORMATION. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, SANDRA. OKAY. SO I SEE THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY AGENCIES IN BREVARD COUNTY WHO TAKE CLAIMS FOR FAIR HOUSING? SO RIGHT NOW I'VE LEARNED OF FLORIDA COMMUNITY LEGAL SERVICES.
I THINK THEY ARE THE PRIMARY PLACE THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND SOMEONE GO TO SUBMIT A COMPLAINT OR. I DO THINK, THOUGH, IF IT IS A LEGIT, FAIR HOUSING ISSUE AND NOT JUST A TENANT LANDLORD ISSUE, THEY WOULD PROBABLY FORWARD THAT UP TO THE STATE LEVEL.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH.
I THINK THEY SUPPORT THE LANDLORD RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THEY'RE IN THE MIDST OF MAYBE TAKING OVER FROM THE HOUSE TO CONTINUE USE TO RESPOND TO THIS. THEN DID SHE ASK ABOUT AN AGENCY? I HAVE AN EMAIL TO SHARE WITH YOU.
SANDRA THE PERSON THAT WE MET WITH WHO IS THE LAWYER FOR THE COUNTY.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE. I THINK SHE WAS ASKING IF THERE WAS ANOTHER AGENCY THAT DID.
YOU SAID REPAIRS TO THE HOME OR MADE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.
I. I THINK ISN'T THERE THAT AGING MATTERS THAT DOES THAT AS WELL.
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AND THEN DOES.AND THEN I THINK SOME SOME OF THE SHIP, ONE OF THE FUNDING SOURCES I THOUGHT COULD HELP WITH HOME REPAIRS THROUGH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
YES. AND THAT WOULD BE OUR SHIP PROGRAM.
WE ALSO HAVE A WAIT LIST OF ANYWHERE FROM AT LEAST 3 TO 5 YEARS.
BUT WE OUR WAITLIST IS STILL OPEN.
WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO DECIDE THEY HAVE ALREADY REPAIRED THEIR HOMES OR NO LONGER.
THEY NO LONGER WANT THE ASSISTANCE.
THEY DON'T REMEMBER BEING PUT ON THERE.
WE SEND UP AN APPLICATION AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPLICATION IS ABOUT.
SO, I MEAN, I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED TO CALL.
WE ALSO HAVE PRIORITIES AS FAR AS OUR SET ASIDE REQUIREMENTS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT IN DISABILITIES IS ONE OF THEM.
SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO IF YOU MEET ONE OF OUR SET ASIDES, THEN THAT DOES TAKE PRIORITY AS FAR AS WHERE YOU ARE ON THE WAIT LIST.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ANY BETTER THAN YOU COULD CARE.
WARREN, CAN I STOP YOU REALLY QUICK? WAS THERE ANY. UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE, BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR CONSULTANT OR BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER? ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION OR SOMEBODY HERE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING.
OR I CAN ALWAYS EMAIL THE QUESTIONS AND CALL OUR CONSULTANT AS WELL.
I HAVE ONE MORE. SANDRA IN LIGHT OF THE QUESTIONS SHE ASKED REGARDING ACCESS TO OTHER PLACES FOR COMPLAINT, SHOULDN'T THAT BE ONE OF THE CRITERIAS ON THE LIST WHERE PEOPLE COULD IF THE THE AIR OF THE CITY OR THE COUNTY HAVE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY CALL? I THINK HE DID SAY THAT IF WE CAN'T IF THIS A IF MID FLORIDA COMMUNITY SERVICES CAN'T ANSWER THE SPECIFIC QUESTION, IT IS FORWARDED UP TO THE STATE.
I CAN REACH OUT TO BREVARD COUNTY WHO HANDLES THE IN THE ADA COORDINATOR THERE AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT CONTACT INFORMATION IS FOR THE STATE.
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S ANYONE SPECIFICALLY IN BREVARD COUNTY THAT ANY ONE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE LEVEL.
OKAY. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF THE ASSESSMENT WHEN HE'S LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA AS A THING LIKE, OKAY, THIS CITY DOESN'T HAVE OF ZERO PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO WANDERING.
WE CAN ABSOLUTELY PUT THAT IN THERE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OF THOSE SPECIFIC PLACES SO WE CAN PUT IN THERE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE AS AS A NEED.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SHE IS A SPEAKER.
WAS IT FOR THE CONSULTANT OR JUST AN OVERALL.
YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE? I'M SORRY. JUST TRYING TO.
AND THEN YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK RECORD AS WELL AFTERWARDS FOR ELAINE RECORDS.
I'M WITH THE HELPS COMMUNITY INITIATIVES HERE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE CONSULTANT.
I, I BELIEVE I HEARD HIM TALKING ABOUT CURRENT ASSESSMENTS OR REPORTS ON CURRENT DEMOGRAPHICS AND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S FAR AS YOU KNOW, AND WHICH WOULD HELP YOU TO TARGET WHAT THE FUTURE NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE OR WHATEVER FOR THE PLAN.
I WAS WONDERING, WHEN WOULD WE AS SEE IF WE ARE WHEN WOULD THAT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE COULD SEE THAT CURRENT NUMBERS, NOT FIVE YEAR OLD NUMBERS.
OKAY. SO WHAT HE IS REFERRING TO IS THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WE'VE HAD OUT SINCE MAY OF 2020, AND WE HAD TO COMPILE AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME, WE HAD TO COMPILE ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS AND ALL THAT RAW DATA INTO A SPREADSHEET FORM, AND THEN WE HAD TO SEND IT TO HIM.
WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT AT OUR MEETING IN MAY, BUT IT IS PUBLIC RECORD, SO YOU CAN REQUEST IT AT ANY TIME.
OKAY WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO LET OUR CONSULTANT GO.
BUT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY PUBLIC MEETING.
AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY FEEL FREE TO ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS. THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.
I HAVE SOME HOMEWORK TO DO. I'LL MAKE SURE SANDRA HAS SLIDES AND READ MORGAN, MAKE SURE SHE HAS THE CONTACT AT IT'S SORT OF COMMUNITY LEGAL SERVICES.
THIS WOULD BE A MODERN DAY MIRACLE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THIS.
SO, SANDRA, YOU TOLD ME WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
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THERE'S TIME LEFT.FOR YOU TO FACILITATE THIS, OR IF PEOPLE WOULD PREFER TO TAKE THESE QUESTIONS BACK AND SUBMIT THEM IN YOUR RESPONSE COMMENTS, THEN I HAVE THE THE EMAIL.
TELL ME WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE OF HOW TO GET ANSWERED? THAT'S PERFECT. YOU HAVE THESE SLIDES, SANDRA, SO I'LL JUST PUT THIS IN EMAIL FORM TO I'LL PULL THESE QUESTIONS OUT AND PUT THEM DIRECTLY TO THE EMAIL SO YOU CAN AFFORD IT OUT. FOLKS IN THE ROOM.
I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR YOU OR SEE YOU.
IT WAS STILL GREAT TALKING WITH YOU.
HERE'S MY EMAIL, YOUR QUESTIONS.
STEPHANIE JENNINGS IS MY COLLEAGUE.
SHE IS RUNNING THE FAIR HOUSING ASSESSMENT.
YOU WANT ME TO SIGN OFF FOR 2 MINUTES? STAY ON. OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME DURING THIS TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
SO WHAT I WILL DO IS THE INFORMATION THAT HE SENDS.
I'LL NOT ONLY SEND IT OUT TO THE BOARD AND EVERYONE HERE.
SO IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU DO WANT THIS INFORMATION, JUST PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR NAME, EMAIL ADDRESS. SOME OF YOU I KNOW ARE ALREADY ON OUR PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRIBUTION LIST, WHICH I WILL GO AHEAD AND SEND THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY AS WELL, BECAUSE WE DO WANT AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE. BUT IF YOU AREN'T GETTING THOSE EMAILS, JUST LET ME KNOW YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION. IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS CARD, YOU CAN LEAVE IT HERE.
WE'LL I'LL ADD IT TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRIBUTION LIST AND THEN YOU'LL GET A COPY OF THE POWERPOINT IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE DISCUSSED.
BUT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PUBLIC MEETING.
WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN MAY.
YOU GOT ONE IN MAY. CAN WE DO THAT AS A SPECIAL MEETING AND A SINGLE AGENDA ITEM? AS. YES.
SO WE CAN. IT WILL PROBABLY BE DIFFERENT THAN OUR CDB MEANING THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER WE MAY HAVE OTHER THINGS. SO IF IT'S THE ONLY THING THEN WE'LL IT'LL BE AT OUR REGULAR MEETING. IF NOT, WE'LL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING OR IT WON'T JUST BE A PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WE WON'T NEED A WE CAN DO IT AS A WORKSHOP.
YEAH. INSTEAD OF A MEETING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING AND THERE'S NO FORMAL BUSINESS TO, I JUST THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE AND STUFF, IT SHOULD MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FORMAT.
YES. AND THEY AND IT IS PROMISE ME THAT IT'LL BE DIFFERENT.
UM, WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THESE, SO THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME.
ANDREW WARREN I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY OF HOPE AND WORK WITH A LOT OF THE AGENCIES.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE ONLY AGENCIES THAT ARE DOING THE REPAIRS THAT WERE MENTIONED ARE AGING MATTERS.
AND I BELIEVE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IS ALSO HAS A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT THEY WOULD DO ACCOMMODATIONS LIKE THAT.
AND LIKE LIKE SHE SAID, EVERY CITY HAS SHIP FUNDING AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR THEIR.
THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN WOULD LAP, YES, THEIR LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN TO SEE IF THAT'S A PRIORITY OR SOMETHING THAT THEY DO.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT EACH CITY INDIVIDUALLY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR THAT AS WELL.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ON A. ALL.
THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FOR SCHIP, UM, IT'S IN THE FORM OF A MORTGAGE, BUT IT'S A FORGIVABLE MORTGAGE. SO AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS DURING THE TIME THAT THEIR LEAN PERIOD IS, WHETHER IT'S FIVE OR TEN YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY GET, THEY DON'T OWE ANYTHING.
IT'S ONLY IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR MORTGAGE.
SO WITH THE CITY, SO IF THEY ARE BEHIND ON THEIR TAXES, THEY'RE DELINQUENT.
IF THEY HAVE A FIRST MORTGAGE AND THEY'RE NOT CURRENT ON THEIR FIRST MORTGAGE, IF THEY HAVE ANY CODE VIOLATIONS, LIENS AGAINST THE HOME ARE THE BIGGEST ONE.
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THEY'RE NOT LIVING IN THE HOME ANYMORE AS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCY, WHICH IS BECAUSE OUR PROGRAMS ARE ALL AROUND HOME OWNER OCCUPIED.SO IF THEY VIOLATE ONE OF THOSE AND YES, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH DEFAULT, BUT OTHERWISE IT IS A FORGIVABLE MORTGAGE AT THE END OF THE LEASE TERM.
AND THEN JUST TO ADD IT UP, THE ONLY THING I JUST REMEMBER TOO IS IF THEY'RE A VETERAN, THE VA PROBABLY HAS FUNDING FOR THAT AND VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA OF FLORIDA ASSIST WITH THAT FROM TIME TO TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE GENTLEMAN, THAT'S WHY IT WOULD CONFUSE ME, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT FAIR HOUSING IS.
BUT THE LIST OF ASSESSMENT AND WHEN I HEAR THE YOUNG LADY SPEAK, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT ADDRESSED THE ASSESSMENT, ADDRESSING THE REAL CONCERNS, BECAUSE I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING OF ASSESSING HOW MANY PEOPLE OF DISABILITY ARE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MODIFICATION OF.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT AN ASSESSMENT WOULD BE FOR FAIR HOUSING.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. I THINK THAT'S UNDER THE CATEGORY HOUSING COSTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE KIND OF A CATCHALL FOR SOME OF THOSE OTHER ONES. THOSE ARE THE WHAT HE WAS LISTING THERE IS WHAT HUD REQUIRES.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
IT JUST MEANS THAT THOSE ARE THE POINTS THAT HUD SAYS YOU HAVE TO ASSESS THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS AND THE EXCESS OF THE ACCESS ISSUES ON THESE POINTS.
BUT YOU CAN ELABORATE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, HOUSING COSTS.
SO IF YOU'RE LIVING IN A HOME BUT YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE THE ADA MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU NEED, THAT'S A HOUSING COST ISSUE.
SO I THINK THAT ONE IS INCLUSIVE.
I THINK THAT CATEGORY CAPTURES SOME OF THOSE POINTS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO REALLY.
AND DOES IT ADDRESS RENTALS AS WELL, LIKE.
YES, RENTALS ON HOMEOWNERSHIP? I DIDN'T I DIDN'T GET THAT AT ALL.
WELL, HE WAS GIVING A VERY BROAD OVERVIEW AND JUST AN INTRODUCTION TO THE ASSESSMENTS OF FAIR HOUSING BY AT OUR AT THE NEXT PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAVE FOR THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING, WE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL AS TO WHAT THOSE THOSE ASSESSMENT ITEMS ARE.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE YOUNG LADY TO COME BACK AGAIN TO TO AT LEAST MAKE SURE SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED.
ARE THEY LOOKING AT ASSESSING HOW CRIMINAL BACKGROUNDS AND EVICTIONS ARE, PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO RENT AND LOOKING AT MAYBE LOWERING SOME KIND OF STANDARD THAT ALLOWS? DOESN'T ALLOW THE AUTOMATIC REJECTION OF SOMEBODY WITH A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND OR AN EVICTION. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE I KNOW ONE OF THE POINTS WAS LENDER DISCRIMINATION. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD ALSO BE FOR RENTALS.
AS FAR AS WHAT IS WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT ARE CAUSING PEOPLE NOT TO BE ABLE TO TO GET LOANS OR TO WHETHER IT'S BAD CREDIT, WHETHER OUR LOWER CREDIT, WHETHER IT'S ANY OF THE PROTECTED CLASSES, WHETHER IT IS IF YOU'RE A CONVICTED CRIMINAL OR A FELON OR YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND, OR IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE PREVENTING PEOPLE IN YOUR DISCRIMINATING AGAINST.
SO I THINK THAT THAT GOES INTO THAT.
EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
WHAT YOU SAID WAS JUST THE MINIMUM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS HEARD OR NOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT ESPECIALLY WITH COVID 19, THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EVICTIONS AND NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ONE EVICTION THEY CAN'T RENT OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BACKGROUND THEY CAN'T RENT. SO THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
IF THAT'S IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY ARE SEEING IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.
ABSOLUTELY. THOSE ARE JUST THE MINIMUM.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T LOOK AT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO OUR CITY OR ITEMS THAT MAY NOT THAT HUD MAY NOT SAY IS ABSOLUTELY THAT WE HAVE TO, BUT WE FEEL THAT IS IMPORTANT TO PUT INTO THAT PLAN.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO INCLUDE.
AND I JUST PIGGYBACK ON WHAT SHE SAID.
IT'S DEFINITELY AN ISSUE IF SOMEBODY AN EVICTION AND A CUSTOMER COME TO ME AND THEY HAVE AN EVICTION, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO TO HELP THEM, ESPECIALLY A RECENT EVICTION.
SO IT IS A BIG ISSUE, BUT HOPING THAT.
I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE SOLUTION BASE.
I REALLY DO HOPE ONCE THAT'S PART OF IT AS WELL, IS WE NOT ONLY HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE ACCESS ISSUES AND THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, BUT HOW WE PLAN TO ADDRESS THEM.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IN THAT ASSESSMENT OF THE FAIR HOUSING IS WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ACCESS ISSUES, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, HOW ARE WE AS A JURISDICTION GOING TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS? SO WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IN OUR PLAN.
PERFECT. AND IS THERE A WAY TO ONCE HE HAS THAT PLAN TOGETHER AND HE DOES BRING IT
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FORWARD TO US, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN SEE THE PREVIOUS PLAN AND KIND OF DO THAT COMPARISON? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.IS THE PREVIOUS PLAN AVAILABLE TO US NOW? RIGHT. IT'S NOT ON THE WEBSITE, BUT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD AND AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME.
I CAN ALWAYS EMAIL IT TO THE BOARD AS WELL.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO OLD UNFINISHED BUSINESS, WHICH WAS SUBSTANTIAL
[OLD/UNFINISHED BUSINESS ]
AMENDMENT TO THE PROGRAM YEAR 2019 2020 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.SO BACK IN 2019 FOR THE 2019 2020.
ACTION PLAN THE CITY HAD AWARDED PARKS AND FACILITIES.
AT THE TIME IT WAS PARKS AND RECREATION.
$527,158 TO DO SOME ADA RENOVATIONS AND FACILITY UPGRADES TO THE PALM BAY SENIOR CENTER LOCATED ON CULVER DRIVE.
BASED ON WHAT I CAN READ IN THE ACTION PLAN AND BASED ON THE LIMITED INFORMATION THAT STAFF STAFF GOT BACK AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A TRUE FUNDING REQUEST FOR IT, THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION TO GO ON.
BUT IT DID HAVE A SENTENCE IN THERE ABOUT HVAC RENOVATIONS.
AND WHEN THIS WAS BID OUT, THE HVAC WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT, BUT IT IS A BIG PART OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO, UM, ONCE THOSE 80 RENOVATIONS WERE COMPLETE, WE HAD ENGINEERING PARKS AND FACILITIES HAD HIRED AN ENGINEERING COMPANY WITH OUR FUNDS TO LOOK AT THAT LAST PART THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL BID, BUT IT'S INCLUDED IN THE ACTION PLAN.
AND THE THEY I'LL LET PETER, WHO IS OUR ACTING PUBLIC PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR, KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE AGE OF THE CHILLERS.
THE THEY ARE 27 AND 20 YEARS OLD, AIR HANDLER UNITS ARE 20 YEARS OLD.
I THINK ONE IS FIVE YEARS OLD, BUT IT'S NOT.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PETER, IT'S NOT JUST A REPLACING A COUPLE OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
IT'S A HUGE OVERHAUL GUTTING, GUTTING AND RECONFIGURING OF THE ENTIRE HVAC SYSTEM.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.
PETER BIRCHARD PARKS AND FACILITIES ACTING DIRECTOR SO PRETTY MUCH WE DID A LOT OF WE DID A ADA ACCESSIBILITY STUDY LIKE 20 1617 AND WE DID A BUNCH OF UPGRADES THERE, BUT.
SANDERS RIGHT. THE ONE THING THAT WAS MISSING WAS THE HVAC.
SO THE UNIT, THE LARGE CHILLER UNIT IS 1995 AND THEN YOU HAVE SIX RESIDENTIAL UNITS THERE, SPLIT UNITS.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING WE GOT A COST TO RE-ENGINEER EVERYTHING BECAUSE ONE BIG THING THAT THE SENIORS ALWAYS SAY IS WE'RE NEVER COMFORTABLE.
IT'S TOO THEY NEVER SAY IT'S TOO COLD.
THEY ALWAYS SAY IT'S TOO WARM AND TOO HUMID.
SO AND AT FIRST, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S HOW EACH ONE OF US FEEL.
BUT AS WE HAVE, THIS BMS SYSTEM IS THE CITYWIDE.
CITYWIDE WE HAVE THE HONEYWELL SOLUTION.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO MONITOR EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO LONG STORY SHORT, WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE IS ISSUES THERE THAT CAN ONLY BE SOLVED BY CHANGING ALL THE DUCTWORK.
AND THAT'S A LARGE COST YOU CAN IMAGINE THE EXISTING DUCTWORK ISN'T SIZED.
RIGHT. SO THERE'S COMPLICATIONS THERE.
PLUS THE THE CHILLER AND THE TWO BIG UNITS ARE OLDER AND THE SMALL UNITS ARE A MAINTENANCE DISASTER.
SO PRETTY MUCH THE SOLUTION MAKES EVERYTHING ONE BIG CHILLER AND THEN EACH ZONE IS CONTROLLED BY SOMETHING CALLED VARIABLE.
SO PRETTY MUCH WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THEY CONTROL SEPARATE SPACES.
SO YOU CAN REALLY CONTROL HOW THE COMFORT IS FOR DIFFERENT SPACES.
HAS THAT ALSO GOING TO REDO THE INSULATION? SOMETHING CALLED ICE ICING SPRAY FOAM.
SO WE FIXED A LOT OF THE ADA THINGS, BUT THEN THE WHOLE COMFORT SIDE WAS MISSING.
SO IS GOING TO FIX ALL OF THAT.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THIS SYSTEM COMPLETELY REDONE AS FAR AS LIKE MAINTENANCE, COST MAINTENANCE, JUST MAINTENANCE IN GENERAL AND JUST HOW THE CITY BECAUSE THIS IS A CITY OWNED FACILITY, HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT AND ULTIMATELY THE RESIDENTS WHO USE IT.
OH, THANK YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOCUS IS ON CHILDREN WITH PLAYGROUNDS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE OTHER SIDE WHERE WE HAVE THE SENIORS.
THEY, FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE FELT SHUT INS AND BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CLOSED.
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SO NOW THIS PLACE RIGHT HERE, THE BENEFITS REALLY IS TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT.YOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WE ALL HAVE AT OUR HOUSE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN A CHILLER.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COST SAVINGS FOR ELECTRICITY, WE'LL HAVE COMFORT SAVINGS AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE ON THE SMALL UNITS AND THIS TRYING TO KEEP THE OLD CHILLERS RUNNING.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THAT BY REPLACING SOMETHING THAT IS 1995 TO TODAY'S STANDARD. SO WE'RE SOLVING A BUNCH OF THINGS, COMFORT ON THE SURFACE, BUT ALSO GETTING NEEDLED BY MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND USING VENDORS TO DO THAT.
COMMENTS. IT'S JUST SO THAT I FULLY OWNED IT.
AND SO YOU FOUND FUNDING FROM SEVERAL OVER THE YEARS? YES, I THINK SO.
THIS THE 397,000 397,000 IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT. CORRECT? YES. AND THAT IS DUE TO.
SO WHEN THEY DID THE ENGINEERING FOR THIS OVERHAUL OF THE HVAC SYSTEM, IT ALSO INCLUDED THE ENGINEERS COST. AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE.
SO WE'RE GIVING YOU THE BEST NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE BASED ON AN ENGINEER'S EXPERT OPINION, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DO THIS, INCLUDING THE INSTALLATION AND THE RE AND THE INSTALLATION. SO THIS IS NOT FROM FROM ANY QUOTES THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED.
NO, IT'S AN IT'S AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE.
IT COULD BE. WE WOULD HAVE TO THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVELY BID OUT WITH THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAD WAS IF IT WAS MORE WHAT THEN? IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MORE.
WELL, I'M ASSUMING IT WOULDN'T BE 100,000 MORE, BUT IS YOUR FUNDING? I MEAN, I DIDN'T I WANTED TO KNOW IF IT'S A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE CONFIDENT WITH THIS OR THERE IS.
DID YOU FIND ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY JUST IN CASE AS A OR THIS IS ALL ALL THE FUNDS THAT YOU FOUND YOU SCRAPED TOGETHER, THAT'S ALL.
THERE IS ADDITIONAL UNALLOCATED CBG FUNDING WE HAVE IF WE NEEDED TO USE IT.
AND FOR THE AUDIENCE, ANYONE INTERESTED? THESE UNALLOCATED FUNDS ARE FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.
THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, NOR CAN THEY BE USED FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.
THEY HAVE TO BE USED FOR A PROJECT ONLY.
THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION TO FIND OUT.
SO WE HAVE TO FIND A PROJECT THAT'S READY TO SPEND THESE FUNDS.
NOW, IF WE DO NOT SPEND THEM ON, SAY, THIS PROJECT OR A SIMILAR PROJECT, THEN WE WOULD ULTIMATELY PUT OUT ANOTHER REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS FOR PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE QUALIFIED AND THAT THAT COULD TAKE TIME.
CORRECT. ALL THE SENIOR CITIZENS WOULD BE BURNING ALIVE IN THE SUMMER, BUT THIS WOULD COMPLETE TRULY COMPLETE THE RENOVATION.
AND WE'VE DONE SO MUCH ALREADY.
WE HAVE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, RENOVATED IT AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I LIKE THE POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THAT WE FOCUS A LOT ON THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT NOT SOMETIMES REMEMBERING THAT WE DO HAVE SENIORS HERE THAT AREN'T YOU KNOW, WE'RE SHUT IN AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND IN A SPACE, A NICE, CLEAN, SAFE SPACE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE A LOT.
SO I, I PERSONALLY KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T USE IT FOR ANY OTHER THING, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD SUPPORT THIS.
THANK YOU. SO THEY LEASED THIS BUILDING FROM THE CITY OF BOMBAY, CORRECT? THEY DO. WHAT DO THEY PAY TO LEASE THE BUILDING? IT'S LIKE A DOLLAR A YEAR.
IT'S HARD TO MEASURE WHAT THE SENIORS GET.
WELL, IT'S NOT HARD TO MEASURE WHAT? IT'S $10 A YEAR.
$10 A YEAR FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS FOR THE.
AND WHAT HAPPENS? I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A COPY OF THE LEASE IN FRONT OF ME.
SO WHAT ARE THEIR MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES? SO, I MEAN, OR IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY COMPLETELY MAINTAINING THE BUILDING FOR THE.
SO THE BLANKET ANSWER WOULD BE THAT THE CITY WE CONSIDER IT AS A CITY, AS AN ASSET OF THE CITY. SO YEAH, MONETARILY IT'S VERY SMALL AMOUNT.
BUT IN THE CONTRACT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AS AND WHAT THE CITY REQUIREMENTS ARE AND WHAT THE
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SENIORS ARE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT THE SENIORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.LIKE THE FIRST, I BELIEVE IT'S 650 $650 OF A REPAIR FOR A CALENDAR YEAR FOR ELECTRICAL HVAC, PLUMBING.
SO OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT A LARGE INVESTMENT ON THEIR SIDE.
AGAIN, THE CITY'S VIEWPOINT, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WAS ALWAYS LIKE THIS IS A BIG ASSET TO THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHY THE PARTNERSHIP.
WE'RE GOING TO READ THE EXACT PHRASE FROM THE LEASE.
ALL RIGHT. THE CITY SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY NEEDED REPAIR AND A REPLACEMENT OF THE HVAC SYSTEM WITH THE LESSEE, THE SENIOR CENTER, PAYING UP TO A $600 CAP FOR EACH SYSTEM PER FISCAL YEAR.
SO I THINK. I THINK YOU HAVE TO STRIKE A BALANCE IN THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVIDING A PUBLIC PURPOSE TO THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN NONPROFIT AGENCIES OR ANY AGENCY IS RECEIVING A BUILDING FOR ESSENTIALLY NO COST TO ME, THEY KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE THEY NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SKIN IN THE GAME.
$650 OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR IS NOT REALLY ANYTHING.
ARE THEY PAYING THE UTILITIES IN THE BUILDING? YES. SO WHEN WE REPLACE THIS SYSTEM, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT. OKAY.
SO WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO SAVE MORE MONEY.
SO WE'VE PAID OVER $1,000,000 WITH THIS INTO THIS BUILDING.
AND I THINK THEY DO GREAT WORK THERE.
IT'S IT'S A GREAT SERVICE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
I WENT TO THEIR RIBBON CUTTING AND IT WAS WONDERFUL.
BUT TO ME, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL YEARS TO BE PUT INTO ONE FACILITY. AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SPREAD THE WEALTH.
A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THE WAY THAT IT CAME AROUND THE FIRST TIME, AND THAT WAS PRIOR SANDRA BEING HERE AND THERE WAS NO ACTUAL FUNDING APPLICATION.
I THINK THAT THIS ISSUE WITH THE HVAC WOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT HAD THERE BEEN A TRUE FUNDING APPLICATION, AND THAT WAS PRIOR TO.
SO IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. BUT I JUST THINK GOING FORWARD THAT.
THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS NEED NEED TO BE HANDLED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
AND HE SEEMED TO BE GIVING A LOT OF MONEY TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. HARMAN HARPED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY IN GENERAL SPREADING THE FUNDING OUT SO THAT MORE OF THE COMMUNITY IS RECEIVING THE BENEFIT.
AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T FUND EVERYTHING.
AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GIVE TO EVERY GROUP.
YOUR DEFENSE GUYS COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR THE MONEY, WHEREAS OTHER DEPARTMENTS DON'T.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
IF THIS WAS PUBLICLY ADVERTISED AND YOU GUYS ARE THE ONLY APPLICATION, I MEAN.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO ADD, WHEREAS I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE HUMAN ELEMENT HERE AS A CITY, WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC IN OUR FUNDING AND AGAIN MEASURABLE GOALS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE LOOK AT A NICE BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, BUT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE ENERGY EFFICIENT.
WHEREAS WITH I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A LEASE AGREEMENT WHERE ANYONE OR THE LESSEE ACTUALLY FIX THE AC OR REPLACE THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS. SO TYPICALLY THAT IS THE LESSOR WHO ACTUALLY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS AND WORKS EFFICIENTLY.
NOW WE KNOW THAT, WHEREAS I BELIEVE THE SENIOR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT ON FEW EVENTS, BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE ANY PRACTICALITY TO TO ACTUALLY HAVE $300,000 JUST TO PUT ON THE AC.
SO I AM I AM LOOKING AT IT IN THE IN THE LONG TERM, WE COULD SAY WE'LL DIVIDE THE FUNDS.
AND I'M I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE THAT.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT IT IN THE IN REALITY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR, IT WOULD BE FOOLHARDY. IT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
IT WOULD BE IMPRACTICAL TO SAY, OH, LET'S ABANDON THEM HERE AND LET'S LET IT WORK.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU WHERE YOU SAID ABSOLUTELY IT CAME TO US WITHOUT ALL THE PROPER TRIMMINGS AND THAT AND THAT'S WHY THIS HAPPENED.
SO GOING FORWARD, I'M SURE SANDRA IS HERE NOW, SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU YOU HAVE TO KIND OF WAIT AT THE ODDS.
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE COMPLETE.
BUT OVER THE COURSE, EVERY BUILDING HERE IN THE CITY IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
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IT'S GOING TO BREAK.AND WHEN IT BREAKS, IS IS PROBABLY EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO AT THIS POINT, I'M I AGAIN AGAIN EXTEND MY SUPPORT FOR IT BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. BUT I AGREE 100% WE CAN'T BE DOING THIS AND WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.
BUT SINCE WHERE WE ARE, I'M FALLING FOR IT.
AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN WHAT THE CITY IS INVESTING.
BUT JUST FOR COMPARISON'S SAKE, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE PROBABLY HAS 15.
BUILDINGS THAT ARE LEASED. A NONPROFIT AGENCIES INCLUDING POWELL, THE DELTA GROUP AT BROTHERS PARK, THE DAVE ON US ONE.
ALL OF THOSE LEASES REQUIRE THOSE NONPROFIT.
GIRL MAINTENANCE THAT HE DOES NOT DO IT.
GO IN AND INSPECT THE BUILDINGS ONCE A YEAR.
WE VERIFY THAT THEY'VE DONE THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO, BUT IT'S THE TRADE OFF OF THEM RECEIVING THE BUILDING, OR IN OUR CASE, IT'S A DOLLAR A YEAR.
IT JUST DOES IT DIFFERENTLY, AND THAT'S FINE.
AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT THAT IT IS YOUR ASSET.
AND IF THEY WERE TO JUST NOT REPLACE THIS, I MEAN, YOU LET IT GO ANY FURTHER.
YOU COULD HAVE MOLD ISSUES OR OTHER TYPE OF HEALTH ISSUES IN THE BUILDING.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN LEASING THEM A BUILDING ESSENTIALLY FOR FREE.
BUT. WE ALSO THE CITY DOES USE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES OTHER THAN THE SENIOR CENTER.
WE DO USE IT FOR EVENTS AND OUR WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND ONE OF THE WE HAVEN'T BEEN UNTIL THE RENOVATIONS WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO USE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO WE. THE INTENT, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, IS TO ALSO USE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
I MEAN, NOT TAKING IT AWAY FROM THE SENIOR CENTER, BUT TO BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR LUNCHEONS AND EVENTS THAT THE CITY CAN PUT ON.
AND I THINK OTHERWISE, IF THEY WEREN'T IN THAT BUILDING, RUNNING THOSE SERVICES, THAT WOULD BE A CITY RUN FACILITY.
IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT THE CITY WOULD BE OPERATING AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO STAFF SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE TRADING OFF THE MAINTENANCE AND THE USE OF THE BUILDING FOR THE FACT THAT THEY'RE RUNNING THE OPERATION.
THE BALANCE. AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE.
OR I'VE NEVER BEEN TO THE SENIOR CENTER, OF COURSE, AND I'M OLD ENOUGH TO BE THERE.
BUT IS THAT A MEMBERSHIP SET UP WHERE YOU PAY SO MUCH A YEAR TO GO THERE AND LIKE, DOES IT HAVE AN OPERATING STATEMENT, AN ANNUAL OPERATING STATEMENT? THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED AND DUES.
THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED FOR.
THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED FOR THAT AND OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THERE ON SALARY SO THAT BASICALLY WE'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE.
THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CASH THERE.
AND IT'S AND IT'S OPERATED AND DESIGNED NOT TO MAKE MONEY OR TO SET ASIDE MONEY FOR A FUTURE. AC NEW CARPET OR NEW CHAIRS.
BUT I DON'T THINK MY QUESTION HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO FUND THE BOAT THAT IF WE DON'T FUND IT ON A SINK AND IT WAS A BOAT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROPERLY FIXED SOMETIME IN THE PAST.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME.
I THINK SANDER PROBABLY HAS THAT INFORMATION.
I DO, YES. TO ALL OF THE ABOVE, EXCEPT THEY'RE FULLY VOLUNTEERS.
THERE IS NO STAFF. THEY'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS.
EVERYBODY THAT RUNS THE FACILITY IS A VOLUNTEER.
BUT THEY THEY MAKE THE MAJORITY OF THEIR MONEY OFF OF FUNDRAISING.
I THINK BINGO BINGO IS THEIR BIG MONEYMAKER ON WEDNESDAY.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT NO CHARGE.
BUT IF IT'S IF IT'S AN EVENT LIKE BINGO, YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PARTICIPATE IN BINGO.
YEAH, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
YEAH. I'M SURE THEY DO HAVE MEMBERSHIP AS WELL.
DO THEY DO THEY HAVE CV FUNDING.
SO I'VE SEEN ALL OF YOUR FINANCIALS.
YEAH. I BOLDLY MADE A STATEMENT SAYING THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY, BUT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THEIR FINANCIALS.
I FIGURED IT. IT WOULDN'T BE WELL.
AND THEY WEREN'T GENERATING ANY INCOME DURING COVID.
THEY WERE CLOSED THAT WHOLE TIME, WHICH IS PART OF WHY THEY NEEDED TO UPGRADE.
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YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. SO.SO THEY DO TRY TO ADD TO THE POT IN THAT, FOR INSTANCE, PART OF THIS FUNDING IS TO FIX THE VENTILATION IN THE KITCHEN OVER THE THE STOVE.
SO THEIR PIECE IS YOU KNOW, THEY DID A KITCHEN REMODEL RECENTLY, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BEFORE COVID. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP OUT BY GETTING A NEW STOVE, NOT CHEAP.
SO, I MEAN, THEY ARE DOING SMALL THINGS THAT HELP US THE CITY.
SO IT IS NOT PART OF THIS PLAN.
OH, OH, THE HOOD COST IS NOT INCORPORATED INTO THIS AMENDMENT.
WELL, NOW IT'S ON PURPOSE TO, UH.
WELL ONE IT'S A SEPARATE THAT SO THE H THE H VAC RENOVATIONS ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL ORIGINAL ACTION PLAN IN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT.
SO I. NOT TO SAY THAT THEY COULDN'T COME BACK OR COULDN'T APPLY IF WE ADVERTISE ANYONE'S THAT WE DO HAVE. BUT IT WASN'T PART OF THE ORIGINAL SCOPE.
ONE MORE THING. THE CHAIR MENTIONED THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT WHEN THEY GIVE TO NONPROFITS.
I'M ASSUMING THIS IS AN OLD LEASE AND THAT HAD THE OLD TRAPPINGS OF WHAT LESSOR WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND I THINK OF IT IN BEING IN REAL ESTATE WHERE I RENT REGULAR.
BUT NOW THAT YOU DID MENTION REGARDING NON-PROFITS AND GETTING THIS FOR FREE, IS IT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BUILT IN OR TO CHANGE THE LEASE OR IT'S ALREADY SET IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOME MORE MENTIONED PUTTING MONEY ASIDE, THAT IT WILL COVER BASIC MAINTENANCE AT LEASE, EVEN PAYING CITY STAFF TO COME OUT AND MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT IN IN REALITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO COULD DO THAT.
THE LEASE WAS SIGNED MAY 6TH OF 2021.
AND I BELIEVE I REMEMBER HEARING IT COME BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF MY I UNDERSTAND. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE BASIC THINGS BECAUSE IF THE TOILET BREAKS, DO YOU CALL THE CITY OR DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOME MONEY PUT ASIDE? AND THERE SHOULD BE I KNOW YOU SAID $650, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING YOU KNOW, THE PIPE BROKE BY THERE. YOU KNOW, THEY DID SOMETHING.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? SO WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO COME HERE, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR OH, WE WANT THE PIPE STUFF, FIX THAT SORT OF THING.
SO AT LEAST DOES OUTLINE THE OBLIGATIONS OF THE LESSEE AND THE CITY.
I CAN EMAIL YOU A COPY OF THIS TO.
ON THAT. YOUR TERM, YOUR TERM.
SO I THINK BEARING IN MIND WHAT YOU SAID, THAT THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD PAY FOR SOME THINGS. AND I KNOW YOU SAID $650, BUT BEING THAT THINGS ARE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO.
YES, THE COUNCIL COULD LOOK AT.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YOU HAVE THE 118,000 LEFT REMAINING.
CORRECT. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, PROJECT HAS CURRENT REMAINING FUNDINGS OF 118,000.
WHAT IS THAT REMAINDER GOING TO GO TOWARDS? THAT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS. SO WHEN THEY'RE ORIGINALLY AWARDED 527,000 AND THEN THERE WAS A MINOR AMENDMENT DONE TO ADD 50,000, WE DID ANOTHER MINOR AMENDMENT.
AND THEN THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE.
SO WHAT HAPPENED IS THE BID FOR THE RENOVATIONS CAME IN LOWER THAN THE MUCH LOWER THAN THEY ANTICIPATED. IT CAME IN AT JUST OVER 400,000.
AND THEN THEY HAD A COUPLE OF CHANGE ORDERS THAT INCREASE THAT TO ALMOST UP TO 10%, BUT NOT QUITE. OTHERWISE, THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO COUNCIL.
BUT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE HVAC RENOVATIONS, SO IT JUST CAME IN THE BID, THE LOW THE CITY HAD TO GO TO THE LOWEST BID. AND SO BASED ON THE ORIGINAL COST.
WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT 118? ULTIMATELY, IF THEY CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING THAT IS, THEY CAN EITHER USE IT FOR THEY CAN ASK IF THEY CAN USE IT FOR SOMETHING RELATED TO THE RENOVATIONS OR IT GOES BACK TO OUR FUND BALANCE AND WE HAVE TO SOLICIT APPLICATIONS AND THEY CAN ASK FOR THAT AGAIN.
NOW, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THEY WERE MENTIONING MAINTENANCE? IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS TACTFULLY AS FAR AS STEP BY STEP? SO YOU HAVE A 20 YEAR OLD AIR HANDLER UNIT THAT'S 20 YEARS OLD.
COULD YOU USE THAT MONEY TO REPLACE THAT? AND LITTLE BY LITTLE REPLACE THINGS AND THEN GO FROM THERE? BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH.
YOUR PERSON AS FAR AS THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY TO DISH OUT AT ONCE.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW AND THEN ADDRESS IT FROM THERE AND GIVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THE OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AS YOURSELVES TO COME BACK. AND JUST SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH WHAT YOU HAVE COME BACK TO GO FOR THIS AND USE
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THIS REMAINDER MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE EXTRA AND GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PASS IT AROUND. UM.I THINK I'M ON THE BOARD WITH A.
THAT ONE. SO THE HARD PART IS PHASING.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
CAN WE PHASE IT LIKE A ONE, TWO, THREE? THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REMEMBER I EXPLAIN LIKE AT YOUR HOUSE YOU HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER UNIT. IT'S CALLED A SPLIT UNIT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF SIX ENTIRELY LITTLE SYSTEMS. THEN YOU HAVE THIS BIG CHILLER, WHICH IS ON ITS LAST LEG.
SO THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T PUT A NEW CHILLER IN WITHOUT REDOING ALL THE PIPING BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE SIX LITTLE ZONES THAT ARE NOW GOING TO BE TIED IN ALL NEW LIKE TRUNK LINES, ALL NEW, YOU KNOW, DUCTWORK, AND THEN HOW TO CONTROL IT.
SO THOSE SIX ZONES WILL BE MANY MORE ZONES, BUT THEY'LL ALL BE CONTROLLED BY THIS CHILLER. SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY WE CAN ONLY DO THIS ONE PIECE WITHOUT DOING THE REST. I.
WHY DO THE DUCKS HAVE TO BE REDONE IF.
THE BUILDING IS NEW, MY UNDERSTANDING OR EVERYTHING IS SOMEWHAT MORE NEW.
THE QUESTION SO THE BIG REMODEL HAPPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND SO IT WAS MOSTLY ADA AND ACCESSIBILITY AND FLOW AND WE DID A COUPLE OF THE BATHROOMS AND AND SOME COSMETIC THINGS. THE DUCTWORK IS ALL EXISTING, SO THE DUCTWORK HAS TO BE SIZED.
IT'S CALCULATIONS, THERE'S CODES, BUILDING CODES, FIRE CODES, HVAC CODES, OBVIOUSLY.
SO LIKE IT ALL HAS TO BE MATCH TOGETHER.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU HAVE A CAR AND YOU PUT OTHER BRAND PARTS ON THERE, MAYBE IT'LL GO, MAYBE IT WON'T, PROBABLY WON'T, ESPECIALLY ON THE HIGHWAY.
SO ANYWAYS, YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE A NEW CHILLER, IT HAS TO BE SIZED, THE DUCTWORK HAS TO BE SIZED. IT'S A SYSTEM.
SO BREAKING IT APART AND KIND OF DOING A LITTLE BIT, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.
IT MIGHT ACTUALLY COST YOU A LOT MORE IN THE LONG RUN, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
MY CONCERN WOULD BE JUST COMING FROM RENOVATING A MASSIVE PROJECT IN TAMPA AND ONE IN COCOA IS THAT IF THE AC ISN'T RUNNING PROPERLY.
I KNOW CITY OF MELBOURNE HAS A PROPERTY THAT I HAD A CLIENT IN THAT AS WASN'T ACCURATE AND THERE IS MOLD AND BUILD UP ALL THE TIME.
SO WITH IT BEING A CITY ASSET AND THE CONCERN OF THE DAMAGE COSTING MORE MONEY AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST GET IT DONE.
AND TO YOUR POINT, MAKE SURE THAT FUNDING DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT A PROPER REQUEST AND THEN MOVING FORWARD.
NOTE TO SELF, WE KIND OF DID THIS A LITTLE BIT.
WE DON'T DO THAT WORD ANYMORE.
RIGHT. AND LET'S NOT DO IT AGAIN.
NO, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE CITY SHOULD AT THIS POINT SUFFER FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I HAVE I WOULD HAVE A BIG CONCERN ABOUT CONTINUING DAMAGE WITH THE UNIT, WITH THE PROPERTY, IF IT'S NOT DONE PROPERLY.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, I DON'T ARE WE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE? I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD.
AND YES, YOU ULTIMATELY DO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE YOU TAKE A MOTION.
WHEN YOU SAY IT'S ON ITS LAST LEG, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOW LONG DO THESE CHILLERS USUALLY LAST? HOW LONG DOES ALL THIS USUALLY LAST? BECAUSE YOU GOT ONE THAT'S 20.
THOSE ARE THE SMALLER UNITS, THE CHILLERS.
THERE'S ONE THAT'S 27 YEARS OLD AND ONE THAT'S 20.
OKAY. SO THE BIG THE BIG THE BIG UNITS, RIGHT.
LIKE THE MAJORITY OF IT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY OLDER.
I WILL SAY WE HAD A CHILLER AT MELBOURNE CITY HALL THAT WENT BY.
THE BUILDING WAS NINE YEARS OLD.
SO, I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH THEY'RE BEING RUN AND.
ARE THEY BEING MAINTAINED? ARE THEY SET UP CORRECTLY? WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS A SOPHISTICATED SYSTEM THAT THEY USE WITH THE ZONES.
AND IF THAT'S NOT ALL SET UP RIGHT, THEN THE CHILLER ENDS UP WORKING EXTRA HARD AND IT'S MORE WEAR AND TEAR. SO YEAH, 27 YEARS IS THE OLD.
SO. I THINK KARA WAS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU WANT TO.
I WON'T MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS FUNDING.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
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JOHNSON. I DON'T SEE ANY NAYS.AND I VOTE I IN THAT MOTION PASSES.
SO, UNDER OTHER BOARD BUSINESS, WE HAVE A CODE OF ORDINANCES AND BYLAWS.
[OTHER BOARD BUSINESS ]
OKAY. SO THIS THIS AMENDMENT TO THE THE ORDINANCE DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE DEFINITION OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL.SO PER FLORIDA STATUTE FOR 20 9076.
THERE ARE THE THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL IS ONE OF THE MEMBERS THAT HAS TO BE COMPOSED OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS USTDA BE NOW THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL.
THE DEFINITION IS BASED ON EACH JURISDICTION'S LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN PER THE FLORIDA STATUTE. HOWEVER, OUR ORDINANCE SPELLS THAT OUT.
WELL, THAT DEFINITION OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL CHANGES WITH EVERY THREE YEARS.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS JUST TO LEAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT'S IN.
UM, TO CHANGE THE CODE OF ORDINANCE, TO STRIKE OUT THE SPECIFICS THAT ARE IN THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY REFERENCED.
AND OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCE EVERY THREE YEARS IF YOUR LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN CHANGES.
THAT DEFINITION OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
GO AHEAD. BUT I MAKE THE MOTION TO.
APPROVE THE BYLAWS AND RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO REVISE SECTION 52 OR ONE NINE TO A SECTION 52.192876 AND 50 2193C AND SECTION 52.1 93D OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.
LISTEN IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I.
A'S AND I VOTE I IN THAT MOTION PASSED.
NEXT NUMBER TO MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION UPDATE.
YES. SO THE REST OF THE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA ARE INFORMATIONAL ONLY.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO BRING TO YOU THAT SO KIND OF WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND UPDATING THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS CAME ABOUT.
SO THE FLORIDA STATUTE THAT I REFERENCED IS VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT WHAT MEMBERS HAVE TO MAKE UP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASSISTANCE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE OR OUR CDB. AND SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS ARE VERY EASY TO SEE THAT YOU'VE FILLED THAT POSITION. IF SOMETHING CHANGES WITHIN THE TERM OR THE YEAR AND YOU'RE NO LONGER QUALIFIED FOR THAT POSITION, THEN WE NEED THE STAFF NEEDS TO KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EITHER HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSON OR WE TRY AND PUT YOU IN A DIFFERENT POSITION WHERE YOU ARE QUALIFIED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING FLORIDA STATUTES.
SO IF WE ARE MONITORED BY, SAY, SHIP OR THE STATE, THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT FLORIDA STATUTE.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT THE JUST REMINDING THE CDB MEMBERS THAT IF YOU WHATEVER POSITION THAT YOU ARE HOLDING THAT IF FOR SOME REASON SOMETHING CHANGES IN YOU'RE NO LONGER FILLING THAT QUALIFIED POSITION THAT YOU JUST LET US KNOW.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAYBE EVERY YEAR DURING THE TERM, JUST FOLLOW UP AND JUST GET SOMETHING QUICK THAT ARE YOU STILL MEETING THAT POSITION BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE APPLICATIONS AREN'T CLEAR AND WE ALSO DO THIS WITH NEW MEMBERS.
SO IF THERE'S A NEW MEMBER THAT WANTS TO FILL A POSITION BUT IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR ON THE APPLICATION, THEN WE'LL REACH OUT AND WE'LL ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION JUST TO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE TRULY QUALIFIED, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN'T TELL THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FILL A POSITION AND YOUR APPLICATION GIVES THE APPLICATIONS THE STANDARD APPLICATION FOR ALL THE CITY BOARDS.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO PLACE TO PUT HOW YOU ARE MEETING THAT SPECIFIC ONE WITHOUT US DOING SOME ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
MY MY COMMENT ON THAT IS I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SINCE THIS IS LAID OUT IN THE STATUE AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS AND QUALIFICATIONS TO BE A BOARD MEMBER ARE.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT A STEP FORWARD AND.
IF THE BOARD HAS NO OBJECTION, ASK EACH BOARD MEMBER TO PLEASE SEND SOMETHING TO SANDRA IN WRITING HOW THEY QUALIFY FOR THE SEAT THAT THEY'RE IN.
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AND IT COULD BE A SHORT EMAIL.IF YOU'RE MS.. MERAJ, YOU SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
SEND AN EMAIL AND SAY, I SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
I'M A RESIDENT IN SANDRA AN EMAIL AND SAY THAT I'M A RESIDENT BECAUSE IT IS CONCERNING TO ME THAT AT SOME POINT WE COULD BE AUDITED OR HAVE MONITORING AND WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE MEMBERS THAT DON'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS.
AND I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THE BOARD APPLICATION, IT'S ONE GENERAL BOARD APPLICATION THAT'S USED FOR EVERY BOARD AND IT IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE STATUTE FOR THIS BODY. SO THAT'S MY REQUEST.
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T HAVE OBJECTED ON THAT.
B I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER READER.
RITO ALSO FILLS OUT POSITION AS WELL.
ARE YOU TRYING TO GET OFF THE BOARD, MR. MORAN? YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED.
I KNOW IT'S NOT SELLING IN CONNECTION.
SO ALL I'M ASKING IS IF IN RESPONSE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU WOULD SEND AN EMAIL TO SANDRA AND SAY, I REPRESENT.
ACTIVE REAL ESTATE PROFESSION IN CONNECTION WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING CARE.
CATHY JUST SO THAT SANDRA HAS THAT DOCUMENTATION, SO THAT WHEN WE ARE MONITORED, SHE CAN SAY THESE PEOPLE ARE QUALIFIED TO SIT IN THESE.
AND I ASKED THAT FOR SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS TO IF IT ISN'T REALLY CUT AND DRY.
SO ONE OF THE VACANCIES WE HAVE IS, THOUGH, AN ADVOCATE FOR LOW INCOME PERSONS IN CONNECTION WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN THAT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO BE EMPLOYED TO BE AN ADVOCATE, BUT BECAUSE THE APPLICATION IS USED CITY WIDE, YOUR JOB, THAT MAY NOT BE YOUR JOB, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU IF YOU ARE AN ADVOCATE AND YOU DO DO THAT, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PUT THAT ON AN APPLICATION.
SO THAT'S WHY I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND SAY, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME HOW YOU ARE IN CONNECTION, HOW YOU ARE AN ADVOCATE FOR LOW INCOME IN CONNECTION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL? I HAVE TO. THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE I CAN TELL WHETHER IT'S THEIR PROFESSION, BUT I STILL HAVE TO REFER TO THE CURRENT LOOKUP IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERSON MEETS IT OR OR SOMETIMES THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE JOB.
AND IF THEY'RE QUALIFIED UNDER ONE JOB BUT NOT THE OTHER, THEN I MAY NOT SEE THAT ON THE APPLICATION. AND THEN I KNOW HE WAS RETIRED.
THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE BEEN ON HIS APPLICATION BECAUSE THAT WASN'T HIS EMPLOYER AT THE TIME, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO YES, SOMETIMES I CAN'T ALWAYS TELL THAT YOU MEET THAT BASED ON YOUR APPLICATION ALONE, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR THAT POSITION EITHER BEFORE AND THEN IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IT GOING FORWARD JUST TO BE ABLE TO CLEARLY DOCUMENT THAT FOR ESPECIALLY FOR AUDITING PURPOSES BECAUSE.
UM, SO AND JUST SO I GUESS ONCE SOMETHING CHANGES.
SO IF YOU ARE NO LONGER AN ADVOCATE, YOU THEN THEY SHOULD JUST REACH OUT TO YOU IMMEDIATELY TO OUR.
OUR BYLAWS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY SPECIFIC THAT IF YOU CEASE TO BECOME QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION, THEN YOUR SPOT IS IMMEDIATELY VACATED.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION WHEN THAT STATUS CHANGES TO REPORT.
YES. I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY IS NOT REALLY, IT DOESN'T CHANGE.
REBECCA COULD WIN THE LOTTERY.
SHE COULD. SHE COULD MOVE. AND SHE'S NO LONGER A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY.
SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? NO OBJECTIONS. THAT LITTLE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR ME.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE AND WE CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL.
SINCE WE DO HAVE SOME BOARD MEMBERS THAT AREN'T HERE, WE CAN.
WE'LL JUST SEND OUT AN EMAIL WITH THAT TO EVERYBODY AT ONCE AND THAT'LL BE A GOOD
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REMINDER AS WELL.MOVING ON TO NUMBER THREE ATTENDANT.
OKAY. THIS IS NOT A CALL OUT TO ANYBODY IN SPORTS SPECIFICALLY.
THIS IS JUST A COURTESY REMINDER THAT WE DO HAVE FIVE MEMBERS THAT MAKE UP A QUORUM AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FILL SOME VACANCIES.
SO WHEN ELENA SENDS OUT HER EMAILS WITH THE AGENDA PACKET AND ASKS FOR YOUR WHETHER YOU CAN ATTEND THE MEETING OR NOT, IF YOU COULD JUST KINDLY LET HER KNOW.
SOMETIMES SHE DOES HAVE TO FOLLOW UP AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL BUSY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO CALL A MEETING, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE SOMETHING AND NOT BE ABLE TO MEET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM AND WE UNDERSTAND THINGS CHANGE.
SO WE JUST WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU NICELY JUST TO LET US KNOW IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OR NOT.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS DO THAT BECAUSE I DO SERVE ON ANOTHER BOARD AND YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM SOMETIMES. FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU SHOW UP AND.
EXPECTING TO MEET. AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS PULL EVERYBODY IN THAT RESPOND.
DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE AND THEN SANDRA STAFF REPORT.
ALL RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU.
SANDRA, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, CAN YOU AT LEAST EMAIL TO ME? STATUTES THAT DEFINE WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS.
I REMEMBER AT THE LAST MEETING I BROUGHT UP THAT I REALLY DIDN'T.
OH. HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING.
I DIDN'T REALLY. IT WAS A STATE OF FLORIDA DEFINITION THAT.
WELCOME. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF REPORT.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT I PROBABLY I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT WE DID HAVE BETWEEN OUR LAST MEETING.
IN THIS MEETING, WE DID HAVE A HOME MONITORING BY OUR COUNTY.
AND A COUPLE OF REALLY, REALLY MINOR CONCERNS, A COUPLE OF SMALL CHANGES.
I HAD A TYPO IN MY SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVE.
BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD MONITORING.
AND I WAS HAPPY TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE THE CITY COLLECTIVELY AS A TEAM HAS MADE SOME GREAT IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT FUNDING.
I EXPECT SHIP IS GOING TO MONITOR.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE YEAR.
AND WE ARE BEING MONITORED, BUT FOR NSP IN TWO MONTHS.
I CANNOT GET A CONSULTANT IN TIME TO GET READY FOR THAT MONITORING.
SO I WILL BE WORKING VERY HARD WITH OUR TEAM TO TO GET PREPARED FOR THAT AS BEST WE CAN AND CLEAN UP WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
AND WE ARE WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS ON THAT.
AND IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN PUSHED TO THE FRONT.
SO AND THAT WILL BE THE WEEK OF JUNE.
I THINK IT'S IN THERE, BUT IT'S THE WEEK OF JUNE 21ST OR 24TH.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD OR REPORT? JOHNSON. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 7:40 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.