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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2020 209 TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY REVEREND STEVE REEVES FROM CORNERSTONE ASSEMBLY OF GOD. HE WILL PROVIDE OUR INVOCATION, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.SO WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE AND PASTOR REEVES, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
LIKE A. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ITS LEADERS FOR REACHING OUT TO THE FAITH BASED COMMUNITY.
AND GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVOKE A HIGHER POWER.
TO PROTECT US, TO NURTURE OUR CITY AND ITS LEADERS AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS.
ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS ARE BLESSED CITY AND ITS FUTURE.
I'M HONORED TO BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THIS INVOCATION FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
WHEN I RETIRED HERE OUT OF 25 YEARS OF MILITARY SERVICE 18 YEARS AGO.
SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES AROUND HERE.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL THINGS HAPPEN, A LOT OF GROWTH, AND I SEE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
IT MUST BE SOMETHING TO PALM BAY TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS FROM THE MAYOR AND OUR NEW NEWLY APPOINTED CHIEF OF POLICE.
WHAT BETTER PLACE IS THERE TO BE MET? LET'S BOW OUR HEADS.
HEAVENLY FATHER, AS I SOUGHT YOU FOR THE WISDOM FOR TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING.
I PRAY THAT YOU BESTOW UPON ALL OF US EYES TO SEE, EARS TO HEAR.
PARTS TO HAVE COMPASSION AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN TODAY'S INTERACTIONS AND BUSINESS.
LORD, YOU PUT LEADERS IN PLACE AND YOU REMOVE THEM TO DO YOUR BIDDING AND ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS. IN THE END, YOUR WILL BE DONE HERE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
LORD, I PRAY A REFRESHING ANOINTING ON OUR LEADERS AS THEY LEAD WITH ALL DILIGENCE IN PEACE TO PUT A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND THEIR MINDS AND THEIR HEARTS AND ALL THOSE WHO COME HERE WITH BUSINESS.
WE PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS AND ALL THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
AND I PRAY, LORD, YOU INTERCEDE WHERE THERE NEEDS TO BE INTERCESSORY INTERCESSION.
THE THING. TODAY'S COUNCILMAN MEETING WOULD COME ALIVE.
AND YOU WOULD GET ALL THE GLORY.
LORD, YOU TOLD US THAT WHERE TWO OR MORE GATHERED YOU ARE THERE.
SURELY LORD MOSES WOULD NOT MOVE UNLESS YOUR PRESENCE WAS THERE.
LORD, TODAY. WE WANT YOUR PRESENCE HERE AMONG US.
AND JESUS MIGHTY AND PRECIOUS NAME.
WE PRAY. AND WE ALL SAID, AMEN.
THANK YOU, LISA. THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS FOR ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MADAM JONES. ROCCO AIR MEDINA PRESIDENT.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, MISS SHERMAN HERE.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.TWO VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS ADVOCATE FOR LOW INCOME ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL FOR PROFIT PROVIDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING OR NOT FOR PROFIT PROVIDER.
TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ADULT MEMBER 30 YEARS AND OLDER POSITION. TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 32195 230 414.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME GUESTS IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
YES. SO WE DO HAVE COUNCILWOMAN MIMI HENNELLY IN THE AUDIENCE IN THE BACK CORNER.
I JUST WANTED WE WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU FOR VISITING THE GREAT CITY OF PALM BAY AS WELL AS MELBOURNE CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM, FOR JOINING US.
ANYTHING ELSE, MAYOR? THAT WAS IT.
THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
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GUYS. AGENDA REVISIONS, MADAM SHERMAN.[AGENDA REVISIONS]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE TWO REVISIONS TO ANNOUNCE.THESE ARE BOTH FOR NEW BUSINESS.
NEW BUSINESS ITEM ONE AND NEW BUSINESS.
ITEM THREE ARE BEING WITHDRAWN DUE TO THE BAYFRONT CYR BOARD CONTINUING THOSE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. A NEW BUSINESS ITEM ONE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM SMITH? NO, SIR. OKAY, SO WE'RE ON.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]
PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I'M GOING TO ASK SHANNON LEWIS, CITY MANAGER FROM ALBERTA, TO COME DOWN AND WE'LL GIVE A LITTLE SPEECH. THANK YOU.
SIR. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR.
DEPUTY MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER, STAFF AND RESIDENTS OF THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF PALM BAY.
I'M THE CITY MANAGER OF MELBOURNE.
I'M ALSO A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA CITY AND COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION.
AND SO ON BEHALF OF FCM, WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO PRESENT THE CITY OF PALM BAY WITH A CERTIFICATE CELEBRATING YOUR 50TH YEAR AS A COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT AS RECOGNIZED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CITY COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION ON BEHALF OF THE OFFICERS, BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND MEMBERSHIP OF FCM.
WE OFFER OUR SINCERE CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS MILESTONE ACHIEVEMENT.
THE COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT WAS CREATED TO HELP SEPARATE ADMINISTRATION FROM DIRECT POLITICAL INFLUENCE AND ESTABLISHED MERIT BASED PRACTICES WITHIN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
IT'S MODELED AFTER OUR CORPORATIONS FRAMEWORK, WITH VOTERS SELECTING A COUNCIL WHO IN TURN APPOINTED A MANAGER TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL AND IMPLEMENT COUNCIL'S ACTIONS THROUGH ORDINANCES AND POLICIES.
IN FLORIDA, NEARLY 70% OF THE 411 CITIES, TOWNS AND VILLAGES OPERATE UNDER THE COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
AND OF THE 67 COUNTIES IN THE STATE, ALL BUT TWO ARE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS RECOGNIZED AS A CHAMPION OF THE COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, WHERE YOU HAVE A CITY COUNCIL THAT WORKS TOGETHER IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER TO MAKE DECISIONS AND ESTABLISH POLICIES IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY.
PALM BAY IS ALSO FORTUNATE TO HAVE AN ACTIVE FCM MEMBER LEADING YOUR CITY AND CITY MANAGER, SUZANNE SHERMAN.
THIS SHERMAN HAS MANY YEARS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE.
SHE'S RESPECTED BY PROFESSIONALS AROUND THE COUNTY AND THE STATE AND IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO MAINTAINS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INTEGRITY AND ETHICS.
SHE'S ALSO ALWAYS WILLING TO PROMOTE YOUR COMMUNITY WHILE HELPING OTHER CITIES AND PEERS WHO MAY NEED ASSISTANCE.
MS. SHERMAN HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN FCM ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES OVER MANY YEARS.
WE'VE PERSONALLY KNOWN EACH OTHER THROUGH THAT ORGANIZATION FOR A LONG TIME AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE FROM A PERSONAL LEVEL MS. SHERMAN'S COMMITMENT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT.
SHE'S ALSO SERVED AS THE SPACE COAST PUBLIC MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.
SHERMAN LEAVES A STAFF THAT'S COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF CARE THAT'S POSSIBLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.
SO ON BEHALF OF FCC, IRMA AND ALL OTHER COUNCIL MANAGER COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE, WE CONGRATULATE THE CITY OF PALM BAY ON THIS MILESTONE ACHIEVEMENT OF BEING A COUNCIL MANAGER COMMUNITY FOR 50 YEARS.
AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER WITH A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION AND RECOGNITION AND WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A PHOTOGRAPH WITH THE MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, COUNCIL AND MANAGER FOR OUR MEMBER ASSOCIATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TO RECOGNIZE YOU THIS EVENING.
SO AS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE COMING DOWN, I JUST WANTED TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK SHANNON FOR HER PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
MYSELF AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JOHN COLLAR BROWN ARE PROUD TO LEAD THE CITY UNDER THE DIRECTION OF OUR GREAT CITY COUNCIL.
AND I WON'T MAKE A BIG SPEECH, BUT I'LL JUST SAY WE ARE PALM BAY PROUD AND WE'RE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY TO MAKE THIS A GREAT CITY.
AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE, TO BUILD A FOUNDATION FOR GREATNESS, FOR EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE. AND WE'RE JUST SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.
SO THANK YOU. CAN YOU SAY THAT PALM BAY PROUD AGAIN? PALM BAY PROUD.
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THE ONLY. DON'T BE SILLY.JUST PRETEND WE REALLY LOVE EACH OTHER.
SO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK VINCENT LOPRESTI TO STEP FORWARD.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. I'LL SAY IT RIGHT THERE, TOO.
YEAH. WHEREAS AMERICA STRONGEST ECONOMIC GROWTH IN ALMOST 40 YEARS HAS BEEN DRIVEN BY THE RESILIENCE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES WHO, DESPITE A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC, CONTINUE TO PIONEER INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO OUR COUNTRY'S GREATEST CHALLENGES AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES AND WORKERS.
AND. WHEREAS, FROM THE STORE, FROM SHOPS THAT ANCHOR MAIN STREET TO THE HIGH TECH START UPS THAT KEEP AMERICA ON THE CUTTING EDGE TO SMALL MANUFACTURERS DRIVING OUR COMPETITIVENESS ON THE GLOBAL STAGE, SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY AND THE CORNERSTONES OF OUR NATION'S PROMISE.
WHEREAS WHEN WE SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES, JOBS ARE CREATED AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES PRESERVE THEIR UNIQUE CULTURE.
BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY'S 32.5 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES CREATE NEARLY TWO OUT OF THREE JOBS IN OUR ECONOMY. WE CANNOT RESOLVE OURSELVES TO CREATE JOBS AND SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH IN AMERICA WITHOUT DISCUSSING WAYS TO SUPPORT OUR ENTREPRENEURS.
AND. WHEREAS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS PROCLAIMED NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK EVERY YEAR SINCE 1963 TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AVAILABLE TO ENTREPRENEURS THROUGH THE US SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES. AND.
WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS AND JOINS IN THIS NATIONAL EFFORT TO HELP AMERICA.
AND OUR SMALL BUSINESSES DO WHAT THEY DO BEST.
AND ENSURE THAT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES REMAIN AS VIBRANT TOMORROW AS THEY ARE TODAY.
NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MOODIE, ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 1ST THROUGH THE SEVENTH AS NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND CALL UPON ALL OUR RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE KEY ROLES THEY PLAY IN KEEPING OUR ECONOMY STRONG.
AND WITNESS HERE OF I SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 21ST DAY OF APRIL 2022.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TAKE THE MIC, SIR.
MY SPEECH ISN'T QUITE AS LONG AS WE HIT THE PROCLAMATION, BUT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEDINA AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AS ROB MENTIONED, MY NAME IS VINCE LOPRESTI.
I'M THE SENIOR AREA MANAGER OF SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND I COVER BREVARD COUNTY AND EIGHT OTHER COUNTIES WITHIN THE CENTRAL FLORIDA AREA.
ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA DISTRICT AND MYSELF, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS WEEK PROCLAMATION.
EVERY YEAR, AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, WE DEDICATE THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY AS NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK. DURING THIS WEEK, WE CELEBRATE THE SACRIFICES AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR ECONOMY AND OUR COMMUNITIES.
AMERICA'S ENTREPRENEURS ARE DOING THEIR PART TO POWER OUR NATION'S HISTORIC ECONOMIC COMEBACK. I WAS READING THE OTHER DAY THAT THERE ARE NOW 100,000 MORE BUSINESSES TODAY THAN THERE WERE PRE-COVID.
SO WE'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
YOU GUYS HAVE RECOVERED AND BOUNCE BACK, SO I APPRECIATE IT AND KEEP THAT UP.
MANY SMALL BUSINESSES WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY PIVOT WITH THE TENACITY AND RESILIENCE THAT NOT ONLY SURVIVED THE PANDEMIC, BUT HAVE THRIVED.
THESE AWARDS HONORED THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE EXCELLED IN BUSINESS OWNERSHIP, DEMONSTRATING THESE VIRTUES THAT ARE AMONG THE HALLMARKS OF SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
THERE ARE TWO SOUTH FLORIDA WINNERS FROM BOVARD COUNTY.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
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AND OF STATE AND SOUTH FLORIDA VETERAN BUSINESS AWARD.AND THAT GOES TO MACK SASSER, THE OWNER OF 11 SERIES ENERGY, AND THEY'RE BASED OUT OF MELBOURNE. THE OTHER ONE IS THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVOCATE AWARD, WHICH GOES TO INDIVIDUALS THAT HELP PROMOTE THE DISASTER PROGRAM AND OTHER SMALL BUSINESS SERVICES.
THAT GOES TO STU SMITH OF COKE FROM COCOA BEACH.
WE WILL PRESENT THOSE TO INDIVIDUALS WITH THE REWARDS AT THE NEXT FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES, WHICH WILL BE HELD ON MAY TEN.
THE SOUTH FLORIDA SMALL BUSINESS PERSON OF THE YEAR AWARD DOESN'T GO TO SOMEBODY IN BREVARD COUNTY, BUT CLOSE ENOUGH FOR VERO BEACH.
HE'S ROGER PRIDGEN, THE OWNER OF CORPORATE AYR, WHICH IS BASED IN VERO BEACH.
WE WILL HAND OUT HIS AWARD AT THE SPACE COAST SCORE BUSINESS EXPO.
THAT'S ON MARCH 3RD, WHICH IS UP IN COCOA AT THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS.
WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, AND I THANK THE MAYOR AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR THE PROCLAMATION. WE APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. HEY, THIS THIS NEXT PROCLAMATION, I WANT TO CALL DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON DOWN BECAUSE HE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS.
AND AND I THINK IT'S FITTING THAT HE PRESENT THIS THIS PROCLAMATION TO KERSHAW, WHO IS A HUGE COMMUNITY PARTNER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. SHAW, WILL YOU LIKE TO COME UP, SIR, AS WELL AS MRS. WRIGHT, PLEASE? THANK YOU. IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS THIS COUNCIL WISHES TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR ONCOR A SORE ARM AND HIS STAFF WHO ARE MAKING SACRIFICES IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.
AND. WHEREAS, MR. SHORE HAS BEEN A RESIDENT OF BREVARD COUNTY SINCE 2003 AND HAS A CAREER AS A PHARMACIST WITH A PASSION FOR COMMUNITY ACTIVISM AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
AND. WHEREAS, IN 2010, MR. SHORE ESTABLISHED MALABAR DISCOUNT PHARMACY, WHICH HAS CONTRIBUTED IMMENSELY TOWARDS THE HEALTH, FITNESS AND WELFARE OF THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY, AND COULD ENVISION A MODERN WAY OF DISPENSING MEDICINES, MEDICINES AND BELIEVES IN A PEOPLE FRIENDLY APPROACH TO PROVIDE NEEDED MEDICATION ADVICE, HE STATES.
WE REALIZE THAT ALL OUR CUSTOMERS TIME IS VALUABLE.
THEREFORE WE AIM TO PROVIDE PROMPT ATTENTION TO THEIR NEEDS.
AND. WHEREAS, MR. SCHALL IS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND UNITED COALITION COUNCIL HAS PROVIDED COVID VACCINES AND TESTING CLINICS TO RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY AT NO COST FOR FREE.
AND. WHEREAS, MR. SHAW CREDITS THE SUCCESS OF MALABAR DISCOUNT PHARMACY WITH HIS PHARMACISTS AND STAFF, HE STRIVES TO REMEMBER HIS CUSTOMERS NAMES AND KNOWS A LITTLE SOMETHING PERSONAL THAT THEY HAVE SHARED OVER THE YEARS.
SOMETIMES ALL OF THAT, SOMETIMES ALL THAT HIS CUSTOMERS NEED IS A LISTENING EAR, AND HIS OFFICE IS ALWAYS OPEN TO ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO CHAT AND CURIOUS.
SUCCESS IS DUE TO THE HARD WORK, BUT HE ALWAYS PUTS HIS CUSTOMERS FIRST AND THAT IS WHAT KEEPS THEM COMING BACK.
NOW. THEREFORE, I KENNY JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND CREW HRP AND ASK THAT THOSE PRESENT JOIN ME IN EXPRESSING APPRECIATION FOR HIS DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE ON TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE A FIX.
WHOO! THIS IS A LOT OF ATTENTION.
UNLIKE MY PREVIOUS SPEAKER, HE SEEMS TO BE PROVIDED, SO I'LL DO MY BEST.
I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THANKING THE ENTIRE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BEGINNING WITH MAYOR ROB MEDINA.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX.
WONDERFUL CITY MANAGER SUSAN ZIMMERMAN, WHO I GOT TO MEET A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE PAST.
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THIS IS A SPECIAL MOMENT IN MY LIFE AND IT WILL BE INCOMPLETE IF I DON'T MENTION SOME OF THE KEY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE A KEY ROLE IN BRINGING ME HERE.SO, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL BE GRATEFUL TO MY MOTHER FOR A LIFETIME.
YOU KNOW, SHE IS THE ONE WHO RAISED ME DURING A LOT OF ADVERSITIES AND INSTILLED THE VALUES OF INTEGRITY, DISCIPLINE, CARE AND KINDNESS.
IN A MAJOR CREDO OF WHY I AM HERE TODAY GOES TO HER.
HE TAUGHT ME TO SMILE ALWAYS, NO MATTER WHAT THE CONDITION IS, AND NEVER GIVE UP, YOU KNOW, LET GO OF THE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AND FORGIVE OTHERS.
HE SAID NEVER, NEVER SHY AWAY FROM HARD WORK AND ALWAYS GIVE YOU 100%.
NEXT IS MY WIFE WHO IS HERE WITH ME.
YOU KNOW, SHE IS MY WIFE FOR 19 YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMMIT MYSELF TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND FOCUS ON WHAT I LOVE THE MOST. BECAUSE OF HER.
SHE IS SHE'S THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS AND HAS DEDICATED HER TIME BEHIND THEM.
SO THAT WILL BE FOR MY WIFE, VERONICA.
SHE IS RIGHT HERE. COULD YOU JUST STAND UP? THAT'S. NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY MY SON, AYAAN, WHO IS A 15 YEAR OLD TEENAGER GROWING TO BE A MATURE KID AND HIS CONFIDENT YOUNG MAN IN HIS FREE TIME.
HE LIKES TO PLAY SOCCER AND WE HOPE TO SEE HIM SOMETIME.
HE IS TEN YEARS OLD AND HE HAS A LOT OF TALENT.
HE IS AN AVID CHESS PLAYER, HE IS A SKETCH ARTIST AND HE PLAYS SOCCER AS WELL.
THEY ARE THE THEY ARE MY STRENGTH.
NEXT. MY SISTER, WHO'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, SHE REMINDS ME EVERY SINGLE DAY HOW HOW PROUD SHE IS OF ME, YOU KNOW, OF EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DONE.
SO AS AS RECENT AS THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, SHE MENTIONED THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S SO PROUD OF ME.
MY MOTHER IN LAW, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE.
THE OTHER PERSON WHO IS EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE TO GET THIS THIS AWARD IS MY BUSINESS PARTNER WHO IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW.
AND HE'S THE ONE WHO WHO I RELY ON WHEN I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, MY STAFF, MY KEY ASSISTANT, MELINDA, WHO IS THERE WITHOUT HERS WHEN SHE'S NOT THERE, I CANNOT FUNCTION.
SO SHE SHE HAS BEEN WITH ME FOR SEVEN YEARS, AND AND THAT'S THE BEST THING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO ME.
YOU KNOW, I'M GRATEFUL TO MY PHARMACIST, MY STAFF, MY MY DELIVERY DRIVERS, MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE SUPPORTED ME AND ABOVE ALL, MY CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE TRUSTED ME.
AND THEN LET ME GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THEM.
NONE OF THIS IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT ALL OF YOU.
AND I AM GREATLY HONORED FOR THIS.
I GOT TO WORK WITH CITY OF PALM BAY MANY TIMES AS RECENT, THE MOST RECENT BEING A COVID CLINIC THAT WE DID WITH THE HELP OF ISABELLE, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED COALITION.
ALSO. SO SHE'S BEEN PHENOMENAL.
YOU KNOW, ANY TIME WE HAVE AN OUTREACH EVENT, SHE HAS BEEN THERE TO SUPPORT ME AND I'M GRATEFUL TO HER. I'M SURE I'M MISSING OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
MY CURRENT EMPLOYEES, MY EX EMPLOYEES, MY FRIENDS, MY COLLEAGUES, EVERYONE WHO IS THERE AND THEY HAVE BEEN WITH ME ALL THE TIME.
AND AGAIN, I DO BELIEVE THAT CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE GREATEST CITY ON EARTH.
I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS BUSINESS, RIGHT? MALABAR DISCOUNT PHARMACY ON MALABAR ROAD.
WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THEM IS THAT THEY DELIVER THEIR PRESCRIPTIONS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A PRESCRIPTION AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT TO THE STORE FOR WHATEVER REASON, MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH SOME MEDICAL CHALLENGES, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GO OUT. WELL, THIS PHARMACY LITERALLY TAKES THE MEDICINES TO YOUR HOME, TO YOUR DOORSTEP AT NO EXTRA CHARGE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
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LIKE, COME ON. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO BRING MORE ONE OC OC.
COME ON. THE STAFF HAS BEEN HERE.
STAFF, PLEASE. HE WANTS ALL STAFF TO LEAVE.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
SO WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.
WE HAVE A FEW. CHARLES SOTO, FOLLOWED BY BRUCE PLOURDE.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TO MY CONSTITUENTS HERE.
HOUSING, EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY RECREATION AND COMPATIBILITY.
THESE ARE THE CORNERSTONES OF OUR DIVISION OF OUR SUBDIVISION.
THEY'RE ESSENTIAL TO BAYSIDE LAKES.
WE'RE DEEPLY INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE SAW AND BOUGHT INTO WHAT SEEMED TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME.
TO GET IN ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR FOR RISING COMMUNITY.
AND BUILD AND SUSTAIN A FUTURE.
WE'RE NOW BEING THREATENED AND CHALLENGED AND COMPROMISED ONCE AGAIN.
AND I SAY THAT NOT WITHOUT RESERVATION.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ANTI DEMOCRATIC TO PROMOTE BUSINESS.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO STAY IN OUR LANE.
SOMETIMES THE REZONING OF THE MAJORS WILL EVIDENTLY AND INEVITABLY AFFECT EVERYONE HERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SATURATION ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
WELL RESEMBLE PUTTING £50 OF WHATEVER.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE OF SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, SCHOOLS, RECREATION, THE LIST GOES ON, IS DISMAL. WE THOUGHT THE NEW MAJORS WAS GOING TO BECOME.
SOMETHING OF A BEACON IN THE FOREFRONT.
WE HAVE MORE FACILITIES TO STORE SOMETHING THAN TO BUY FOOD AND CLOTHING.
HOMES OF SUMMERFIELD PROPERTIES AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WERE BUILT HERE BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSE. IT WASN'T FOR THE TWO STORAGE FACILITIES, $2 GENERALS FOR PIZZA TAKEOUTS AND SUCH. I CAN'T STI STAND BY AND CONDONE AN UNSCRUPULOUS ENTERPRISE, ARE SWOOPING IN AND BEGIN THE APPARENT PROCESS OF BUYING AND SELLING PREMIUM PROPERTIES, KNOWING THAT IT WILL HURT MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.
SHAMELESS. ALLOWING A COOKIE CUTTER, COOKIE CUTTER, TRACK BUILDER TO COME IN TO OUR PROPERTIES ULTIMATELY AND HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND THE PERCEPTION OF OUR COMMUNITY.
PURCHASING WITH THE INTENT TO DECEIVE IS NOT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.
I HOPE REZONING PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.
GO DO A DEEP DOVE INTO THE CODE VIOLATIONS AS WELL AS THE APA FUTURE LAND USE AND THE POSSIBILITIES THAT NEW REZONING OF THE MAJORS WILL ULTIMATELY RETURN IT TO RECREATIONAL
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USE. I DON'T WANT.RESIDENTIAL ONE, TWO APARTMENTS OR ANYTHING I WANT LIKE MY CONSTITUENTS RECREATION.
JUST MR. BRUCE. ALL ABOUT ROBERT STICE.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRUCE PLOURDE.
I LIVE IN THE AT THE INN ON RIDGEMONT CIRCLE IN THE MAGNOLIA PARK COMMUNITY OF BAYSIDE LAKES. I'M NOT A FREQUENT GOLFER, AND I DON'T LIVE ADJACENT OR ON THE GOLF COURSE, BUT I AM HERE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE UPCOMING DECISION ON POTENTIALLY REZONING THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE TO ENABLE ITS SALE TO DEVELOPERS WHO WOULD REPLACE THIS IMPORTANT RESOURCE WITH HUNDREDS OF NEW HOUSES.
IF REZONING IS APPROVED, THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY AND INDEED THROUGHOUT ALL OF PALM BAY WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
THE PRESENCE OF THE MAJOR GOLF COURSE WAS A PRINCIPAL FACTOR IN MY FAMILY'S DECISION TO PURCHASE OUR HOME IN PALM BAY 17 YEARS AGO.
AS THE ONLY REMAINING OPERATIONAL GOLF COURSE IN PALM BAY.
THE MAJORS PROVIDES VITAL RECREATIONAL, SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS TO OUR CITY.
THE LOSS OF THIS CRITICAL RESOURCE WOULD WITHOUT QUESTION DIMINISH EXISTING PROPERTY VALUES AND ELIMINATE A POTENTIALLY STRONG BUSINESS AND REMOVE AN IMPORTANT SOCIAL AND RECREATIONAL CORNERSTONE FROM OUR CITY.
FURTHERMORE, THE ADDED POPULATION AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION CREATED BY CONVERTING THE MAJORS TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE CHOSE PALM BAY OVER MILBURN AND VIEIRA BECAUSE OF THE SMALL TOWN FEEL THE BEAUTY AND THE PLEASANT ATMOSPHERE THAT THE OTHER CITIES IN THIS AREA HAVE LOST BY COMPARISON THROUGH POOR MANAGEMENT OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE MAJORS MIGHT HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT THE GOLF COURSE CANNOT SUCCEED AS A BUSINESS IN OUR CITY.
BUT IT IS OBVIOUS FROM THE BUSINESS DECISIONS BEING MADE AND THE FULL PARKING LOT AT THE MAJORS ON MOST DAYS THAT THE OWNER'S INTENT AND MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ARE AIMED AT UNDERMINING THE POTENTIAL SUCCESS OF THE BUSINESS.
WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE BY YIELDING TO THE REZONING REQUEST AND ENABLING THESE PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR CITY AND ITS CITIZENS TO PROFIT FROM THE DESTRUCTION OF THIS IMPORTANT PALM BAY RESOURCE.
PALM BAY IS A GEM IN CENTRAL FLORIDA, AND WE DEPEND ON YOU, THIS CITY COUNCIL, TO CONTROL HOW THE INEVITABLE GROWTH OF OUR CITY OCCURS.
IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE QUALITIES THAT MAKE PALM BAY SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
I AM A FAITHFUL VOTER IN PALM BAY ELECTIONS AND I WILL SUPPORT IN FUTURE ELECTIONS THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THEIR PROMISES TO PROTECT OUR CITY AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT REFLECT THE VALUES AND DESIRES OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE MORALLY BOUND TO REPRESENT. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN MAKING PALM BAY THE WONDERFUL CITY THAT IT IS, AND I STRENUOUSLY REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE TO REJECT REZONING OF THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE THE DATES OF OUR HOUR? WHEN WILL THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WILL BE VISITING THIS AND WHEN THIS WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND THE LOCATION? YES, SIR. I'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO.
THE SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING WILL BE HELD ON MAY THE 18TH AT 6:00 PM AT THE BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM.
THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO FOLLOW THAT WILL BE HELD ON, I BELIEVE IT IS JUNE THE EIGHTH. IS THAT RIGHT? JUNE 9TH.
NINTH, JUNE 9TH. I'M CHECKING RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. JUNE THE NINTH ALSO WILL BE HELD AT BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM AND ALSO WILL BE AT 6 P.M..
SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR THE AUDIENCE THAT WE'LL BE VISITING THAT AS COUNCIL ON JUNE 9TH. BUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WILL VISIT THIS ISSUE MAY 18TH.
WE'RE MAKING IT CONVENIENT FOR YOU TO HAVE IT AT THE BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO OF COURSE YOU CAN ALL SPEAK FILLING OUT A PUBLIC SPEAKER CARD AND REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. BUT WE WILL NOT BE MAKING A DECISION ON THIS ISSUE FOR UNTIL THE FUTURE, UNTIL THOSE DATES.
ALL RIGHT. SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROBERT STICE, FOLLOWED BY PHILIP COCHRAN.
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GOOD EVENING. THE REASON WHY WE CONTINUE TO BE HERE IS WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET SO.AND THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THE REMINDER, SIR.
THANK YOU. CAN WE START OVER? AND I WAS WAS. THANK YOU.
I DON'T WANT TO GET MY TIME. AND I WAS JUST REMINDED OF SOMETHING, TOO.
SO GO AHEAD, CARRY ON AND I'LL PICK THAT UP WHEN I'M ALREADY LOSING TIME HERE.
ANYWAY, LET'S PRETEND THAT I'M A CONSULTANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND YOU'RE ASKING ME HOW THE HOW THE RESIDENTS GOING TO RECEIVE THIS.
OKAY. AND BY THE WAY, WE ALL ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AS WELL AS THE 3500 PEOPLE GOING ON, 4000 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THERE.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WHAT'S NEGATIVELY GOING TO AFFECT US? WELL, THE HOME VALUE IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
LOSING THE BEAUTIFUL AREA WE WORKED SO HARD THESE YEARS TO RE TO TO BE REPLACED BY 367 HOMES. I GREW UP IN APARTMENTS.
TO ME, GETTING LAND THAT I HAVE A LITTLE BACKYARD OR WHAT HAVE YOU IS TERRIFIC.
DON'T TAKE ME BACK TO THE CONGESTION THAT I GREW UP IN.
STOP PUTTING HOMES ON TOP OF HOMES ON TOP OF HOMES.
WE'LL LOSE ALL THE WILDLIFE WE SEE EVERY DAY.
THE SCHOOLS IN HEALTH CARE WILL GET CROWDED.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC SLIGHTLY AROUND THE DINNER HOUR, IT'S PACKED.
YOU KNOW, HEALTH CARE IS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
WE GET RID OF THE IF WE GET RID OF THE GOLF COURSE, IS BUSINESS GOING TO COME AND POPULATE THAT AREA OF OURS? WAS THE WAS THE ATTRACTION TO THAT? I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING EITHER.
IT'S 2700 ACRES TO THE SOUTH OF US.
YOU KNOW, GDC DIDN'T DO NOTHING TO HELP PALM BAY OUT.
YOU GOT HOUSES ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.
HOW DO YOU STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND PUT YOUR PRIDE IN YOUR BACK POCKET AND WORK HARD TO DO THE RIGHT THING? IT'S NOT EASY TO DO THE RIGHT THING WHEN YOU'VE GOT DEVELOPERS THROWING MONEY ALL AROUND AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
IT'S NOT EASY TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE HERE WHO, YOU KNOW, I BOUGHT A HOME HERE. I CAME HERE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.
I SAT NEXT TO IT IN A BAR AT THE IRISH BAR IN MELBOURNE 2017.
I SAID WE HAD GOT A HOUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT.
HE SAID, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO PALM BAY.
I LOOKED AT THE AREA AND THOUGHT, YES, WE DO.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S WILDLIFE AND EVERYTHING.
YOU GUYS, YOU NEED TO START TALKING TO THE FOLKS ABOUT WHAT WORKS FOR PALM BAY.
STOP TALKING TO THE DEVELOPERS FIRST.
THIS IS WHAT TEAMWORK IS ALL ABOUT.
AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT COMES FROM THE TOP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I WANT TO INTERRUPT THIS.
WE'RE IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF IF I DON'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND INDULGE AND HAVE COUNSEL INDULGE WITH ME.
THIS WEEK WE LOST AN EMPLOYEE TEN YEARS ON THE JOB AND.
MY INTENTION WAS TO BEFORE WE EVEN HAD THE FIRST PROCEEDING, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR LOSS AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US PLEASE RISE AND HONOR THE MEMORY OF MISS LORI PARKER.
OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE PARKER FAMILY, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
GOOD EVENING. HE HAD SOME SLIDES SET UP, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD TO HAVE THEM IN BEFORE 2 P.M., SO I'M GOING TO WING IT WITHOUT IT.
DID YOU SEE THE NOT SO FRIENDLY BANTER ON NEXTDOOR LAST FRIDAY? IT MAY HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY A PIECE PUBLISHED IN THE HOMETOWN NEWS ON THE 15TH OF THE MONTH. IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT, I CAN SEND YOU A COPY EMAIL.
THE NEXT DOOR DISCUSSION STARTED WITH THIS POST AND I QUOTE HERE'S THE NEXT STEP.
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NO ZONING COURSE CLOSED.TO BE CLEAR, MS.. JOYNER JOYNER'S PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO BUY THE MAJORS, RUN THE CLUB AS A WEDDING FACTORY, AND SELL A GOLF COURSE TO A DEVELOPER.
THIS WOULD MAXIMIZE HER PERSONAL, PERSONAL WEALTH.
WEALTH. HER SIGNING A DEAL TO SELL A SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY TO TWO SEPARATE DEVELOPERS.
FIVE MONTHS AFTER SHE BOUGHT IT.
AND ANOTHER DEAL LATER WITH COLTER HOLMES DEMONSTRATES THAT SHE WAS IN A HURRY TO MAXIMIZE HER PERSONAL WEALTH BY FLIPPING THE PROPERTY QUICKLY.
THE OWNER CLAIMS THAT SHE CANNOT RUN THE COURSE AT A PROFIT.
SO TO JOY ELSA PATRONS PAY TOO MUCH FOR THE MAJORS.
ALSO, DID SHE KNOW WHAT SHE WAS BUYING OR DID IT MATTER? THE MAJORS WAS SOLD AS A TURNKEY OPERATION THAT IS CLUBHOUSE WITH RESTAURANT AND GOLF COURSE WITH MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WERE THE MOWERS, BACKHOE TRACTORS, AERATION EQUIPMENT, FERTILIZER SPREADERS, SAND RAKES AND GREEN ROLLERS IN GOOD WORKING CONDITION? OR DID SHE CARE IF SHE WAS GOING TO FLIP THE PROPERTY? SHE WOULDN'T REALLY NEED THE EQUIPMENT OR GOLF WAS THE SELLER AND ALSO OWNS BATTERY NATIONAL IN MELBOURNE.
SOME EQUIPMENT WAS MISSING, INCLUDING THE GREEN ROLLER AND AERATION EQUIPMENT AND IT ENDED UP AT BAY TREE ALONG WITH ALL THE NEWER MOWERS.
HOW DO I KNOW THIS? I PLAY GOLF NEARLY EVERY DAY AND I SEE THE BROKEN DOWN EQUIPMENT IN THE FAIRWAYS, IN THE SAND TRAPS AND THE OIL STREAKED GREENS FROM LEAKING HYDRAULIC FLUID FROM THE MOWERS.
I DON'T THINK MISS MS. JOINER KNEW WHAT WHAT EQUIPMENT WAS NEEDED TO RUN THE OPERATION.
DID SHE CARE? DID SHE OVERPAY? I'LL LET YOU DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
FINALLY, AS YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS AND FLIPPERS, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
AS THE DISCUSSION DEGRADED, DEGRADED ON NEXTDOOR.
HEATHER JOINER CONFIRMED WHAT SHE WAS DOING BY MAKING THIS COMMENT AND AGAIN, I QUOTE, GO AHEAD AND PONY UP 15 MILLION, THEN WE'LL TALK.
PLEASE REMEMBER SHE PAID 2.1 MILLION.
WOULDN'T WE ALL LIKE TO HAVE A 614% RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS? I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE CITY OWNS 235 ACRES IN THE COMPOUND AREA.
IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO DEVELOP THAT AREA.
BUT BEFORE MS.. LISA SPEAKS, IF YOU HAVE A WHITE PICKUP TRUCK OUTSIDE WITH A COAST GUARD LICENSE PLATE, YOU LEFT YOUR LIGHTS ON A WHITE PICKUP TRUCK WITH YOUR LIGHTS ON.
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.
I LIVE IN SUMMERFIELD AND CURRENTLY I AM THE VICE PRINCIPAL OR VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR HOA.
MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE IN LATE AUGUST OF 2018 FROM VIRGINIA TO ESCAPE THE RAT RACE OF THE I 95 CORRIDOR SOUTH OF WASHINGTON, DC.
PALM BAY AT THAT TIME WAS A WELCOME CHANGE, ESPECIALLY THE BAYSIDE LAKES AREA.
A FAMILY AND RETIREMENT FOCUSED AREA.
THAT HAS ALL CHANGED PARTIALLY DUE TO THE MISMANAGEMENT OF GROWTH AND PARTIALLY DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. PALM BAY IS GROWING AT AN EXPONENTIAL RATE.
SINGLE LOTS AND LARGE SCALE ACREAGE ARE BEING BULLDOZED AND LEVELED TO ADD MORE HOMES, MANY ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND WITH NO CURB APPEAL OR INDIVIDUALITY.
HAVE YOU DRIVEN BY AVERY SPRINGS? TILGHMAN LAKES.
ST JOHN'S PRESERVES AND STONE BRIER PRESERVES, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO SUMMERFIELD.
THOSE SUBDIVISIONS LOOK LIKE LOW INCOME HOUSING FROM THE URBAN SPRAWL OF A BIG CITY.
PUTTING UP A VINYL FENCE TO BLOCK THE VIEW DOESN'T HELP IN THE LEAST.
WHILE I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT ANY FORESIGHT GIVEN TO THE PLANNING OF PALM BAY, INCLUDING BAYSIDE LAKES IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, IS BLIND.
THE BOARDS AND COUNCIL THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY HAVE CREATED A JUNGLE OF CONCRETE AND ASPHALT.
THE ONLY BREATH OF FRESH AIR THAT WE HAVE LEFT, FIGURATIVELY AND ESTHETICALLY, IS THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.
IF YOU ALLOW THE ZONING TO CHANGE, TO APPEASE THE WHIM OF THE OWNER WHO ONLY SEES DOLLAR SIGNS, THEN YOU ARE NO BETTER AND WORSE.
YOU HAVE LET DOWN YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
MY HUSBAND AND I WERE SO EXCITED TO BE IN FLORIDA.
WE FIGURED WE WOULD BE CALLING SUMMERFIELD HOME FOR YEARS TO COME.
WE HAVE SPENT THE PAST FEW YEARS MAKING OUR HOME HOURS, INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY, THINKING THIS WAS OUR RETIREMENT HOME.
WE DO NOT THINK LIKE THAT ANYMORE.
PALM BAY HAS BECOME NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE LEFT BEHIND IN VIRGINIA.
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IF YOU ALLOW THE REZONING OF THE MAJORS, YOU WILL SEE A MASS EXODUS OF GOOD, HARDWORKING PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT, AS WE DID, BUT HAVE BEEN LET DOWN BY THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS, ALL FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR.IF YOU WANT TO KEEP PALM BAY THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET, THEN YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO US AND KNOW WHY WE CAME HERE AND WHAT WE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO KEEP US HERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO BE LOSING OUT IF YOU LOSE THE FANTASTIC RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY AND BAYSIDE LAKES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS COCHRANE, FOLLOWED BY STEVE CALLANDER.
HI. MARY CORCORAN SUMMERFIELD.
EVERY YEAR THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, ALSO KNOWN AS TPO, COMPILES CRASH DATA AND IDENTIFIES BRADFORD'S MOST DANGEROUS ROADWAYS AND INTERSECTIONS.
THREE OF THE FIVE MOST DANGEROUS ROADS IN PALM BAY ARE IN PALM BAY.
I'M NOT GOING TO RUN DOWN THE ROUTES SINCE I ONLY HAVE 3 MINUTES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I WAS ALMOST PART OF THAT STATISTIC ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, ON MY WAY HOME FROM WORK. TURNING INTO THE SUMMERFIELD DEVELOPMENT.
I HAD TO STOP BECAUSE TWO BICYCLISTS WERE COMING ACROSS THE INTERSECTION AND ONE HAD A FLAT TIRE.
OF COURSE I HAD TO YIELD TO THEM BEFORE TURNING ONE BICYCLIST.
I'M SORRY. I LOOKED IN MY REARVIEW MIRROR AND SAW A LARGE LANDSCAPERS TRUCK BARRELING BEHIND ME IN THE RIGHT LANE.
THE DRIVER SWERVED INTO THE LEFT LANE AT THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE HE WAS TRAVELING TOO FAST TO STOP.
HE WAS TRAVELING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT, AND I'M SURE I WOULD HAVE SUSTAINED INJURIES IF HE DID NOT SWING TO MISS MY CAR.
AT A COUNCIL MEETING IN MARCH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TPO ADDRESSED THE COUNCIL, TELLING US THAT ACCIDENTS ARE ONE 100% PREVENTABLE.
WE HAVE HAD A BAD SITUATION IN AT THE SUMMERFIELD ENTRANCE THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GET MUCH WORSE.
SOON YOU WILL BE ASKED TO VOTE ON AN APPLICATION TO TEAR UP THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE AND ADD 367 HOMES RIGHT OFF OF ONE OF PALM BAY'S MOST DANGEROUS STRETCHES OF ROADWAY, ADDING DENSELY PACKED HOMES WITH EVEN MORE TRAFFIC ENTERING AND EXITING THIS ALREADY CONGESTED AND FATALLY RIDDLED, REALLY FATALLY RIDDLED BOULEVARD IS, IN MY OPINION, RECKLESS.
THE SUMMERFIELD HOA PRESIDENT, MR. SICE, HAS ADDRESSED THIS COUNCIL AND NUMEROUS TIMES ASKING THAT OUR TRAFFIC CONCERNS BE ADDRESSED. WE HAVE HEARD THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING TO STUDY THE ISSUE.
I'M WONDERING HOW LONG WILL IT BE BEFORE THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSED? I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO DO TWO THINGS FOR US.
ONE, PLEASE WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONSIDER MORE VILLAGE SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN THE AREA. AND TWO, WHEN THE APPLICATIONS FOR FUTURE LAND USE AND REZONING ARE BROUGHT.
BEFORE YOU TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF THE ALREADY BAD SITUATION HERE AND ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND AND ALL OF OUR CITY MOTORISTS BY DENYING THOSE APPLICATIONS. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE KEEP THE CITY THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
THANK YOU. THE CALENDAR, FOLLOWED BY SANTA ISABEL.
RIGHT, MA'AM? MADAM SHERMAN, I THINK.
DID YOU TAKE NOTES OF THAT CORRIDOR AGAIN? KNOW STEVE. CALENDAR. CHIEF.
CHIEF TICE. OUR SAILOR TICE ALWAYS BRINGS THAT UP.
SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT REQUEST OF INCREASING PATROL.
YES, SIR. I CAN GIVE A QUICK UPDATE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, OTHER THAN, UH, I KNOW COMMANDER FISHER.
EXCUSE ME. DEPUTY CHIEF FISHER HAS HAS TAKEN NOTE OF THAT, AND I KNOW WE ACTIVELY WORK OUT THERE, BUT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY DO MORE IF IF THAT'S NEEDED.
WE ACTUALLY ARE WE HAVE BEEN RE INSTALLING THE FLASHING LIGHTS WITH THE SLOW DOWN SPEED AND ARE WORKING ON REDOING THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS IN THAT AREA TO JUST KIND OF BRING MORE ATTENTION TO THE CURVE AS IT APPROACHES.
THE OTHER PART OF IT, THOUGH, IS AN ENGINEERING STUDY THAT'S NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REALIGN THE CURVE.
BE THAT MAN. THANK YOU. SO REALIGNING THE CURVE IS THE LONG TERM FIX.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT SOME IT'S IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN BASED ON WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE
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ENGINEER STUDY SHOWS US.THANK YOU, MR. CALENDAR. THANK YOU, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, COUNCIL.
APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THE TIME TO TALK HERE.
I'M STEVE CALLANDER FROM MORNING COVE CIRCLE AND I'M PART OF THE DON'T RE ZONE, THE MAJORS GROUP.
I HAD A THREE MINUTE SPEECH PRINTED OUT, BUT I'M NOT.
WE'VE COVERED MOST OF THE THING.
I WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO THE THE COMMUNITY HERE AND MY NEIGHBORS.
AND I JUST TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE HOW STRONG THEY ARE AND HOW STRONG WILLED.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GETS TALKED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY AT OUR GOLF COURSE.
WE REFER TO IT AS OUR GOLF COURSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE THINK IT IS.
WE SPEND A LOT MORE TIME THERE THAN THE OWNER DOES.
WE CARE ABOUT IT, WE RESPECT IT, WE RESPECT YOU GUYS, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU LOOK OUR WAY BECAUSE THIS TEAM IS NOT GOING AWAY.
THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THIS AND I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. IS ISABEL, RIGHT? FOLLOWED BY SUSAN CONNOLLY.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SANTA ISABEL.
RIGHT? I LIVE AT 858 BRISBANE BOULEVARD.
THE REASON I WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT WAS BECAUSE LAST NIGHT I WAS LISTENING TO THE ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AND I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
MORE MONEY GIVEN TO PARKS AND RECREATION TO FIX THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S TIME FOR AN AUDIT.
MAYOR, WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO AUDIT EVERY DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DONE THAT AND HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC AND I HAVEN'T SEEN.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. BUT PARKS AND RECREATION IN PARTICULAR, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT AND I REALLY WANT AND I'M SURE THE CITY OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS WILL BE INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF AUDIT TO HAPPEN BEFORE THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY IS GIVEN TO THEM.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING ON THESE PARKS.
HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANY COVERS WHATSOEVER ON THESE GYMS FOR THESE KIDS TO PLAY FREELY. PARK IS THE ONLY PARK THAT HAS A COVER AND THAT HAS A COVER BECAUSE MANY YEARS AGO, MYSELF AND A GROUP OF RESIDENTS CAME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME AND PETITIONED FOR THAT COVER TO BE PUT ON.
AND I'M SURE THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON CAN AGREE THAT HIS SON AS WELL.
STRUGGLES BECAUSE THEY GET SO HOT THAT THE KIDS CANNOT TOUCH IT.
SO I ASKED THAT CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE PUT A HOLD ON THAT RELEASE OF THE $400,000.
AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PARKS GET COVERED BECAUSE IT'S USELESS TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY IF THE KIDS CANNOT ENJOY IT.
AND WE HAD TO REPLACE THEM BECAUSE THEY GOT OLD BUT NOT OLD FROM USAGE, BECAUSE MOST OF THE KIDS GO TO FRIENDLY PARK BECAUSE IT IS COVERED.
SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE PUT A HOLD ON THAT RELEASE WHEN IT COMES BEFORE YOU.
AND LET'S AUDIT PARKS AND RECREATION AND PARKS AND FACILITIES AND LET'S SEE WHERE ALL THE MONEY HAS GONE, BECAUSE I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEING PUT INTO THE SENIOR CENTER. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SUSAN CONNELLY, FOLLOWED BY VICTOR BABETTE.
SUSAN CONNELLY, 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
I WANT TO START BY NOT TONIGHT BY SAYING WE THE CITIZENS, WE THE CITIZENS.
THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE CHARTER FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THE CHARTER IS WHAT GUIDES THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THE CHARTER IS ONLY LOOKED AT EVERY TEN YEARS AND THE CHARTER IS LOOKED AT AND REVIEWED BY WE, THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
ASK WE, THE CITIZENS, ALL OF US HERE, ALL OF US, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE REVIEW OF THIS CHARTER. ONE OF THE ITEMS TO BE REVIEWED THIS NEXT MEETING IS THE 3% CAP THAT DECIDES OUR MILLAGE RATE AND HELPS KEEP OUR PROPERTY TAXES LOW.
AND I WANT TO HAVE OUR CITIZENS COME TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE OFFICIALS FROM THE CITY IN ADDITION TO THE CITIZENS.
BUT THE CITY WILL BE THERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, TALKING ABOUT THE 3% CAP AND GIVING THE FACTS ABOUT THIS AND WHAT IS.
WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, WHAT TAXPAYERS DON'T KNOW.
IN SAVING ON OUR PROPERTY TAXES, THE 3% CAP COULD ACTUALLY BE COSTING US MORE MONEY IN A
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DIFFERENT WAY. AND THIS IS WHAT WE WILL LEARN AT THAT MEETING.SO I WANT PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND NOT LISTEN TO THE FAKE NEWS ABOUT THE 3% CAP, BUT COME AND LEARN THE FACTS.
THE NEXT CHARTER MEETING IS THIS TUESDAY, APRIL THE 26TH, RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IT STARTS AT SIX.
THANK YOU. MR. VICTOR, FOLLOWED BY BUTCHER IN.
RIGHT. MY NAME IS VICTOR CHARVET.
FOR US ONE. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF US BEING HERE.
WE ALL HERE HAVE DIFFERENT AGENDAS, BUT WE'RE HERE AS ONE THING.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOU THAT WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT LISTENS TO US.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
WE DON'T COME IN OUR $500 SUITS AND ASK YOU TO DO THIS OR THAT OR BUY THIS OR SELL THAT.
WE COME HERE BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE.
NOW, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS, AGAIN, I EMPHASIZE THIS VERY MUCH.
I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF MEETINGS IN MY LIFE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I RESPECT IS WHEN I GO BEFORE A COMMITTEE LIKE YOURSELVES THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY CONTACTS PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT THEIR NAME ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND SAY, WHAT WAS YOUR TRYING TO SAY IN MORE LENGTH? 3 MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH.
YOU KNOW THAT. SO LOOK AT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
BUT WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS KEEP SHOWING UP AND SAYING THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART. THIS PROPERTY THAT I DON'T I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH IS THIS TENNIS.
DO YOU KNOW THAT UNDER THE EPA, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S EVER READ THEIR REPORT, BUT SINCE YOU GUYS ARE HERE AND WOMEN FIRED ME UP TO GET THE GOVERNMENT TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME THIS, TELL ME WHERE TO FIND IT.
WHAT IT TELLS ME IS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOBS WITH OUR WATER.
AND AS I TALKED TO THE MAYOR THE OTHER DAY, WHICH HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO CALL ME, AND I GAVE HIM AN IDEA AND HE SAID, PUT IT IN WRITING.
I'M NOT QUALIFIED FOR THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THAT'S YOUR JOB, TO HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE, TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN THIS.
ASK YOU TO MAKE HAVE THEM COPY AND YOU READ IT AND SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE WATER PROBLEM.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOLF COURSE THAT THEY'RE FIGHTING FOR, THAT IS THE BEST.
IT'S NOT ABOUT GOLF. IT'S ABOUT A IT'S A SCREEN TO CAPTURE ALL THE DEBRIS THAT'S IN OUR PROPERTIES. THE IT'S GAS AND OIL PRODUCES A TOXIC WHICH IS ALMOST THE SAME AS ANTIFREEZE. AND THAT GOLF COURSE, WHEN IT RAINS OR WATER COMES FROM A BAD STORM FILTERS THAT. SO IF FOR NO OTHER REASON WE SHOULD KEEP THE GOLF COURSE HERE AND KEEP IT OPEN BECAUSE IT PROTECTS OUR WATER, WHICH IS LIKE THE EVERGLADES.
NOW, AFTER THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
AND A PROBLEM THAT I LIKE TO TELL YOU IS YOUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE OUT IN THE CHECKOUT LINE. AND I TOLD YOU THIS LAST TIME I WAS HERE, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU GUYS AND WOMEN. IT'S ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET.
ARE WE DOING THE JOB FOR THEM? AND I WANT SOMEBODY TO ANSWER ME THAT QUESTION.
ARE WE DOING THE JOB? SO DON'T TELL ME THAT WE'RE TRYING.
SHOW ME. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.
BUT THAT ONE IS THE ONE, THE CHILDREN.
AND AS FAR AS THE POLICE SERVICE GOES, THEY DO A HELL OF A JOB FOR ME.
I WATCH THEM. I WORK WITH THIS A LONG TIME AGO.
WE GOT A LOT OF CRAZIES OUT THERE THAT ARE AGGRAVATED AND FED UP, AND THEY'RE TIRED OF IT. OF THE CARELESSNESS.
THANK YOU. BLITZER THEN FOLLOWED BY APOSTLE CHRIS DUNCAN.
GO PUT YOUR ARM TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE PALM BAY.
I WAS SORRY TO HEAR THAT THE SIDE ELEVATIONS WAS TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA AS I DID ALL MY RESEARCH, AND I WAS GOING TO VOICE THAT TO YOU GUYS.
BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SOMEONE BECAUSE I'M GETTING READY TO LEAVE TOWN FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS. BUT I DID FIND SOME INTERESTING FACTS ABOUT THE ELEVATION OF HOUSES.
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DOES NOT SET THE MAXIMUM.
THEY SET THE MINIMUM, WHICH IS 24 INCHES ABOVE THE WET LEVEL.
HIGH WATERMARK FOR THE YEAR 24 INCHES.
EXCUSE ME. THE BUILDERS SEPTIC TANK FOLKS DECIDE THE OTHER HEIGHTS.
ALL THE FDA DOES IS MINIMUMS. SO YOU HAVE TO GET WITH THE BUILDERS AND THE SEPTIC TANK GUYS AND I HAVEN'T GOT A STRAIGHT ANSWER FROM ANY OF THEM YET.
I'VE CALLED, SAID, HEY, I'M BUILDING A NEW HOUSE.
HOW HOW IS IT GOING TO BE OFF THE GROUND?
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WELL, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.I'M SURE WHEN YOU GUYS GET YOUR STAFF GOING ON THIS, THEY CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND I'LL HAVE TO WATCH A VIA REMOTE IF I CAN GET YOU WHEN I'M IN THE MOUNTAINS.
BUT WE'LL SEE. THE OTHER THING IS CODE ENFORCEMENT.
YOU KIND OF NEED TO RENAME THAT TO CODE WATCHERS.
BECAUSE THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT THERE.
DRIVE BY HOUSES ALL THROUGH OVER THE CITY.
TRASH. YOU CAN'T SEE THE HOUSE.
THERE'S ONE OVER OFF OF JOHN CONLIN.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT GUY LIVES.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU FIND THEM DAILY BECAUSE THEY DON'T CLEAN IT UP.
YOU GOT TO PUT SOME ENFORCEMENT IN CODE ENFORCEMENT.
YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT.
EACH ONE OF YOU, LIKE I DO, SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT AND MAKE THE CHANGES.
PEOPLE GET TIRED OF LOOKING AT THAT STUFF.
THE OTHER THING. WE LIVE IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.
WELL, THIS CAPITALISTS DO MAKE MONEY.
I BOUGHT MY HOUSE 20 YEARS AGO, SURROUNDED BY WOODS.
LOOKS LIKE HIROSHIMA BECAUSE THEY COME IN AND CLEARED IT.
GOT A HOUSE AT SIX FOOT UP IN THE AIR.
YOU GUYS CAN. WHEN THE LOT CLEARING IS, YOU NEED TO PUT SOME ENFORCEMENT BEHIND THAT, SOME KIND OF REGULATIONS.
THEY COME IN WITH A BULLDOZER.
THREE DAYS LATER, EVERYTHING'S GOING.
NOBODY'S CHECKING FOR TURTLES, WILDLIFE, NOTHING.
SO YOU GUYS TAKE CARE OF IT AND GO HEAT.
SO, MADAM SHERMAN, BEFORE OUR NEXT SPEAKER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE REVIEW THAT ELEVATION STUDY, THAT WE KEEP BUSH INFORMED EVEN WHILE HE'S AWAY, ESPECIALLY IF HE HE WON'T BE ABLE TO WITNESS ANY OF THAT DISCUSSION.
AND THEN I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.
OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS DO AN IMPECCABLE JOB OUT THERE.
IT IS ABOUT PUTTING TEETH TO HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PROPERTY RIGHTS AND SEE HOW WE COULD LOOK AT THAT. AND I KNOW THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS WORKED ON THAT FOR ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE. SO MAYBE WE COULD MEET AND HAVE A SPECIAL, SPECIAL MEETING SO WE COULD GO FURTHER AND BEAUTIFYING OUR CITY.
ACTUALLY, IF I CAN ADD, STAFF HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON A PRESENTATION TO UPDATE COUNCIL ON OUR CURRENT CODE ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE YOU AT THE MAY 5TH MEETING.
SO THAT WILL BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT THIS.
AND WE CAN SHARE CURRENT EFFORTS AND AND INITIATIVES AND ALSO THE THE PRESENTATION THAT MR. BRAND IS REFERRING TO REGARDING THE ELEVATION ISSUE.
IT'S DRAFTED, NOT FINISHED, WHICH IS WHY IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THIS MEETING.
BUT WE ARE HOPING IF THE AGENDA IS NOT TOO LONG TO BRING THAT TO THE MAY 5TH AS WELL.
AND SO WHEN WHEN DID BUSH SAY HE WAS LEAVING? WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING, SIR? OH, SO WE'LL HAVE TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH WITH HIM AND PROVIDE OUR INFORMATION.
THANK YOU. APOSTLE CHRIS DUNCAN JUNIOR.
AND FINALLY, JERI WILLIAMS. BUT IT'S A.
GARDEN CITY, PALM BAY RESIDENTS.
CITY MANAGER SUSAN SHERMAN, CITY COUNCIL, DEPUTY MAYOR, MAYOR, CITY DEPARTMENTS AND ITS RESPECTIVE HEADS.
MY NAME IS APOSTLE CHRIS DUNCAN JR.
AND FOR A MOMENT, I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE MOMENT TO SHARE SOME TIME OF A SENTIMENT AND A REMINDER. A FEW MONTHS AGO, I THOUGHT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT FORMER KEN GREENE, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER KEN GREENE, SAID TO ME.
YOU HAVE MANY MOMENTS IN A DAY.
IN A WEEK. YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF MOMENTS AND IN THE YEAR YOU HAVE MILLIONS.
SO IT WAS 15 AND A HALF YEARS AGO ON THIS VERY DAY THAT I STOOD AS A SCARED PARENT IN THE CITY. A LONG WAY THAT OVER 1000 MILES FROM NEW YORK.
BUT THIS CITY SAID IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND GROW.
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A CREED THAT WAS UNBEATABLE ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.I TOOK A PEEK AT IT, BUT AT 22, MY DAUGHTER WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.
THIS WAS BEFORE THE $80 MILLION INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSION AT THE PALM BAY HOSPITAL.
THE DOCTORS GAVE HER A 5050 CHANCE.
YEARS LATER, SHE'S STILL STANDING HERE TALL AS A TEENAGER.
WITH THAT SAYING I'M STILL CONSIDERING WHAT WILL PALM BAY DO ON THE NATIONAL FRONT.
THEY EX WWE B D WHAT WILL BIDEN DO HERE IN FLORIDA? X. W. W G.
DH WHAT WOULD THE GOVERNOR DO? BELIEVERS ALL AROUND.
WWJD WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? BUT HERE IN PALM BAY, MANY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.
AND ALL OF YOU OUT THERE ARE GOOD MEN.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE WORLD IT'S PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT, BUT IN THE WORLD OF PEOPLE, IT'S PATIENCE THAT MAKES PERFECTION.
AND THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT REMAIN IMPERFECT IN THIS WORLD PEOPLE IN LOVE.
BUT THERE'S A POLICY THAT DEALS WITH BOTH OF THEM THAT IS A POLICY OF RESPECT AND PATIENCE. COUNSEL.
SOME HAVE VOLUNTEERED WITH ME.
SOME HAVE PRAYED BACK AND FORTH WHEN MY POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS WERE HIGH.
MR. MAYOR, TO YOU I SAY THIS SOY ANAMBRA.
THEY CONTINUED REHAB ASSESSMENT.
OKAY. CHRISTOS IS A STELLA D'ORO JEHOVAH MARK OPERA.
AND IN TRANSLATION, I'M A MAN THAT WILL WORK WITH YOU PATIENTLY BECAUSE OF CHRIST AND ALL THE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST.
AND I'VE CAME TO COUNSEL TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
WHERE ITEMS WERE TAKEN IN ERROR.
CONFISCATED. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE RETURN OF THOSE ITEMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DUNCAN. ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS, MR. MAYOR? COUNCILMAN? SO YOUR 3 MINUTES ARE EXPIRED.
CAN I HAVE A RESPONSE? 3 MINUTES ARE EXPIRED, SIR.
STAFF GET BACK TO YOU AS AS YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
WE WILL DELIVER PACKAGES NEXT WEEK.
WHAT IT IS, IS THE PEOPLE PERSONAL SITUATION THERE.
ALL RIGHT, SIR, YOU'RE ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
YES. AND THE 3 MINUTES HAVE EXPIRED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION, PLEASE LEAVE THEM WITH STAFF.
OKAY, WE'LL DO. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LEAVE IT WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE? YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU NOW.
CONCLUDING. MR. JERRY WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS JERRY WILLIAMS. I'M ALSO A GRADUATE OF BETHUNE-COOKMAN UNIVERSITY.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND THE MAYOR AND DEPUTY MAYOR FOR REVIEWING MY APPLICATION FOR THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL.
I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK MY MENTOR, ISABEL, RIGHT.
FOR ASSISTED ME TO BE MORE COMMUTED IN PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYONE'S RESPONSE AND ASSISTING WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SO WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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AND ITEM NUMBER ONE, MISS SMITH.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BARBARA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDED CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDING FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. THANK YOU.
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MY NAME IS JAKE WEISS, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THIS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST OF GALILEE BOULEVARD. THIS IS A SECOND READING, SO THERE'S NO NEW INFORMATION TO BE PROVIDED. AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF FOR APPROVAL, PLANNING AND ZONING UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY VOTED PREVIOUSLY FOR APPROVAL ON FIRST READING.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY NEIGHBOR OPPOSITION, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THEM. WE ALSO HAVE MR. JEFF CONTE HERE WITH FPL.
IF THERE'S ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, I CAN'T ANSWER.
SO WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ANSWERING QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
IT IS COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? I DO, SIR. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
RIGHT. THIS IS OF GOING TO CREATE 250 JOBS.
THAT'S GREAT NEWS. I DID HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE DISPOSAL OF YOUR WASTE, YOUR WASTE MATERIALS, YOUR HAZARDOUS WASTE, SUCH AS BATTERIES AND EVERYTHING.
I'M NOT SURE IF REPUBLIC TAKES IT OR NOT.
THAT'S WHY I WANT TO CHECK THAT WITH CITY STAFF.
ADAM SHERMAN. I WOULD ACTUALLY DEFER TO THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC HAZARDOUS WASTE WOULD BE CREATED FROM THE SOLAR PANEL SYSTEM.
SO I SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO BATTERIES NOT NOT LIKE TOXIC WASTE.
YEAH, BATTERIES. NOT SOLAR EXPERTS.
I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANTS STEP FORWARD.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, PLEASE SPEAK IN IN THE MIC.
YES, SIR. WELL, I HAVE GOOD NEWS ON THAT.
THE THE APPLICATION BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT IS ABOUT A COMP PLAN DESIGNATION.
WHEN THE CITY ANNEXED THIS PROPERTY, IT NEVER DEALT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO GIVE THIS PROPERTY A FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT DESIGNATION. SO IF WE COME FORWARD WITH A PROJECT THAT HAS BATTERIES, THAT WILL APPEAR BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD.
BUT THERE'S NO PROPOSED BATTERIES WITH THIS APPLICATION.
IF WE WANT TO PUT BATTERIES ON THIS SITE, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
IT WOULD LOOK TO BE SOLAR ON THE SITE, CORRECT? HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE A SOLAR SITE.
I HOPE SO, TOO. THAT'S THE PRESENTATION.
I'LL JUST GO ON TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
THERE'S A 2016 BALLOT IS AMENDMENT ONE FROM FLORIDA.
THIS WAS AN FPL INITIATIVE BALLOT.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS AT FPL IS IF IF SOLAR FARM DOES OPEN UP HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WELL, THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOLAR ON THEIR ROOFS.
YES. THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
SO YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOLAR ON THEIR ROOFS IF WE ACCEPT A SOLAR FARM.
YES, THERE'S NO BEARING ON THAT.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. MAYOR THANK YOU.
COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR. MADAM SHERMAN.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO? ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? NOTHING FURTHER, MAYOR. THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? OKAY. WE'VE GOT BILL BATTEN.
BATTEN. 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE.
WILL THIS COMP PLAN CHANGE INCREASE OUR TAX BASE FROM GOING FROM THE LAND LAND DESIGNATION THAT IT WAS TO THE RE DESIGNATION? WILL IT INCREASE THE TAX BASE? AND TO WHEN THESE ALL THESE SOLAR FIELDS ARE COMPLETED, WILL THAT MAKE THE CITY OF PALM BAY THE LARGEST SOLAR FIELD IN CENTRAL FLORIDA? THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS, IF IT WILL.
THAT'S GREAT. AND I'M HOPING IT'S GOING TO INCREASE MY TAX BASE BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE OF THE SAME SAVED LAND MASS THAT WE'RE USING.
YOU KNOW, THE SPEAKERS ANY ANY ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
THAT'S FOR OR AGAINST THIS ISSUE.
WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP FORWARD? IN RESPONSE. SURE.
SO THIS PROPERTY WAS AT ONE POINT CITRUS.
SO WE'LL INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX.
SO AND AT THIS TIME, I THINK IF THIS WAS ALL TO BECOME SOLAR, IT'D BE A TOTAL OF MAYBE FIVE OR SIX SITES FOR US.
SO FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO WE PUT IT UP THERE WITH ANY, ANY COUNTY IN FLORIDA THAT'S FOR THE MOST SOLAR.
SO I THINK ST LUCIE COUNTY HAS FOUR THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED AND TWO MORE BEING BUILT.
SO THIS COULD TIE WITH THAT FOR MOSUL OR THE REALLY GOOD NEWS.
SO THIS IS WE'RE IN WE'RE IN THE COMPETITION THERE, MASTER CHIEF.
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YES, THANK YOU, SIR.THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? STAFF. I'M NOTHING FURTHER FROM STAFF.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOTION APPROVED IN ITS 2021 DASH 73 FINAL READING.
THAT EMOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING ANON ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MADAM SMITH. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER TWO, FOUR AND EIGHT.
ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.
ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS IN A COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.
ATTORNEYS WHO ARE PREPARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF'S COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGREED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY AS COMPLY WITH SECTION 5903 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES, AND EACH SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES PER WITNESS.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.
THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSE AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS IN FREE TO VOTE, IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
WITNESS 2021 THAT 74 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM GENERAL USE OF OUR COUNTY TO G YOU YOUR USE HOLD IN DISTRICT WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN SOUTH PALM BAY IN THE VICINITY WEST OF BABCOCK STREET AND NORTH OF THE RIVER COUNTY LINE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. THANK YOU, JAKE WISE, AGAIN, SAME PROPERTY THAT WE JUST VOTED ON LAST TIME.
THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
AS I MENTIONED ON THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM, WE DID HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF FOR APPROVAL. WE HAD NO NEIGHBORS OBJECTIONS AND Z UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THIS BOARD VOTED FOR APPROVAL ON THE FIRST READING.
SO WITH THAT AGAIN, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW INFORMATION FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION.
YOU ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU.
NOTHING FURTHER, NOTHING FURTHER.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE. WE DO AS YOU WERE.
THANKS. THANKS FOR GETTING THAT IN IN THE NICK OF TIME, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR PAUSING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I APPRECIATE IT. NATHAN WHYTE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
I WOULD NORMALLY LIKE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED, BUT I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO TALK ON THIS ITEM. AND THAT'S BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE SOLAR FARM WAS MORE OF A PLAN INSTEAD OF AN IDEA. BUT THE COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPER, FROM THE APPLICANT TONIGHT DON'T SOUND THAT WAY. SO REALLY, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF HOW CERTAIN, IF AT ALL, ARE WE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A SOLAR FARM? OR IS THAT JUST ONE POTENTIAL IDEA? NOTHING SET IN STONE AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
ANYWAY, I GUESS IT'S MORE INFORMATIONAL THAN FOR OR AGAINST.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A VALID QUESTION TO GET CLARIFICATION ON.
SO THANK YOU. YOU WILL HAVE THE APPLICANT RESPOND.
YOU KNOW, THE SPEAKER CAN'T LAST SECOND.
WILL THE APPLICANT RESPOND TO? I EXPECT TO BE BACK WITH A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR SOLAR IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
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THAT IS THE PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE SITE.AND IT'S NO SECRET WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO 30 MILLION PANELS BY 2030.
SO IT IS THE MAIN THRUST OF WHAT A LOT OF US THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2021 DASH 74 FINAL READING.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.
AND MADAM SHERMAN, I THANK YOU, MIRA.
THIS IS THE FINAL HEARING FOR THE FOUR STAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT KNOWN AS CYPRESS BAY WEST.
THE APPLICANT OR IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT.
BUT THE OTHER PARTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS HERE, AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT THEY'D LIKE TO GIVE.
SO I'D LIKE TO BRING UP MR. CHRIS TYREE. THANK YOU.
SORRY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AND COUNSEL. ONCE AGAIN, CHRIS TYREE.
295 LAKESIDE, UMATILLA DIVISION PRESIDENT FOR FOUR STAR DEVELOPMENT.
I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO BE HERE LAST HEARING, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I HAD SOME CHILDREN DUTIES I HAD TO DO THAT NIGHT.
I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT PLAYS A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL SOCCER, SO SHE HAD ME SOME COLLEGES WATCH HER THAT AND I HAD TO TAKE HER TOO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR UP SOME THINGS.
I THINK THAT CAME ABOUT FROM THE LAST HEARING, I THINK FROM COMMISSIONER FILIPPO.
I KNOW YOU NEED A COMMISSION, SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS REAL FAST, KIND OF GIVE A QUICK RECAP OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT WE'RE AT TO DATE.
WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF DILIGENTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO DRAFT THIS DA AND ITS FINAL FORM. STAFF SUZANNE STAFF HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
JOANNE'S BEEN A HUGE HELP TO US AS WELL, AS WELL AS FRANK CHRIS LITTLE, THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT, TO REALLY BRING THIS TOGETHER.
I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW, IF NOT FIRST TWO OR THREE THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE CITY, BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT BETWEEN BOTH US AND THE CITY.
AND I THINK IT'S A IT'S A PRETTY FAIR AND GOOD AGREEMENT FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER HERSELF.
SO RIGHT NOW, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THIS IS CYPRESS BAY WEST.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE FTP THAT HAVE BEEN CURRENTLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 21.
WE'RE CURRENTLY PUTTING THOSE 209 LOTS ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.
THIS PHASE ONE HAS ALSO AN ACTIVE AMENITY CENTER OR AMENITY PLAYFIELD AND STUFF.
AND THAT IN THIS PHASE AS WELL.
PHASE TWO IS CURRENTLY APPROVED AND WE'RE WORKING WITH CRYSTAL STAFF TO WRAP UP A UTILITY AGREEMENT TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THIS HERE PRETTY SOON.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR PROJECT HAS TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES ONE ACTIVE ADULT POD WHICH IS PRETTY I KIND OF EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN ALSO HAVE THE PRIMARY RESIDENCY POD IN IT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE PHASE THREE IS CURRENTLY THAT FTP HAS APPROVED AS WELL, WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH AROUND THE COMMENTS AND PROBABLY BE READY TO BE APPROVED SOMETIME HERE IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
SO FINAL DEVELOPED PLANNING APPROVALS FOR ONE, TWO AND THREE CONSISTS OF 13 PHASES.
THAT'S BASICALLY 433 ACRES, TOTALING ABOUT 1343 TOTAL RESIDENCE UNITS.
AND THEN IT'S BASICALLY LESS THAN THREE UNITS PER ACRE OPEN SPACE.
WE HAVE ABOUT INCLUDING OUR PARKS, PONDS AND RECREATION AREAS.
WE HAVE 132 ACRES OUT OF THE 453.
WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT FOUR MILES OF TRAILS.
MARYLAND BOULEVARD, WHICH YOU'LL SEE THROUGH THE CENTER, HAS TRAIL EIGHT FOOT TRAILS ON BOTH SIDES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND ALSO OTHER PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE TWO PLANNING CLUB FACILITIES WITH ONE WITH THE SPLASH PAD AND A LARGE SWIMMING POOL, ROUGHLY AROUND $5.5 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND.
WE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY ARE BUILDING THIS RIGHT NOW IN OUR PROJECT NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE CALLED HARMONY. AND RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THEIR OVERALL FUNNEL.
THEY'RE ALL MASTER PLAN PHASES.
ONE THROUGH THREE WAS THE FIRST FTP THAT WAS APPROVED AND THEN PHASES FOUR THROUGH NINE ARE THE SECOND FTP THAT WAS APPROVED.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT IN THIS AREA HERE, THIS IS CONVENTIONAL HOMES RIGHT HERE AND THEN PHASES FOUR THROUGH NINE AS ALL ARE ACTIVE ADULT.
THIS UP HERE IS WHAT WE CALL OUR 60 FOOT OR EMERALD SERIES, WHICH IS LARGER HOME SITES.
AND THEN. DOWN HERE AGAIN IS ANOTHER CONVENTIONAL POD THAT WE'RE DOING.
BASED ON LOCAL ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ROAD IMPACT REVENUE BASICALLY AROUND 5.8 MILLION.
SORRY, MY EYES. I'M GETTING OLDER.
SO OBVIOUSLY WEST IS BASICALLY GOING TO DO THAT FOR NEW ROADS.
AND BASED ON OUR CURRENT MARKET EXPECTATION, WE'RE ABOUT 3.2 OF NEW ROADS DEDICATED TO
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THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC FOR THE NEXT.THEN WE'RE GOING TO END UP CONSTRUCTING OVER THE NEXT 18 TO 24 MONTHS.
BASICALLY THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY IS THE RED LINE AND THE PURPLE LINE, WHICH IS DURING A DRIVE THAT CONNECTS BACK TO INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY.
ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT YOU SEE IN THERE, INTERNAL THE SUBDIVISION IS PRIVATE STREETS.
RIGHT NOW. TOTAL BUILD OUT FOR 1343 WE HAD ABOUT $17 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES, POLICE, FIRE, ROAD SCHOOLS, PARKING TRACKS, WATER AND SEWER, AND ALSO ESTIMATED ENGINEERING FEES THAT GO TO THE CITY FOR ABOUT 1.5 MILLION.
SO TOTAL FEES AND GENERATION OF IMPACT FEES FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE AROUND 17, ALMOST $18 MILLION.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH CHRIS LITTLE AND HIS STAFF PRETTY DILIGENTLY TO DO A MASSIVE FORCE MAIN PROJECT TO BASICALLY OPEN UP THE THIS PORTION OF THE CITY'S UTILITY SERVICE DISTRICT. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT ABOUT $6.7 MILLION PROJECT THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING FORCE MAIN TO THIS AREA FROM HERE, ALL WHICH THE NEW TREATMENT FACILITY THAT IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY BEING BUILT BY CITY STAFF AND YOU GUYS AS WELL.
SO THAT LARGE SUM OF MONEY THAT CHRIS ASKED FOR TO BUILD A SEWAGE TREATMENT FACILITY AND ALSO A WATER TREATMENT FACILITY WILL ACTUALLY BE UTILIZED TO SERVICE THIS AREA FOR FUTURE GROWTH. RIGHT NOW, I KNOW, I THINK LAST TIME THIS CAME UP BETWEEN POLICE AND FIRE.
HOW MUCH KIND OF IMPACT FEE GENERATION ARE WE DOING? THERE'S ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR POLICE AND $800,000 FOR FIRE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALWAYS GETS MORE THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS.
I KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALWAYS SAYS, NO, I WANT MORE MONEY.
SO I SPEND WEST ESTIMATED TAX REVENUE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT WE USE ABOUT OUR AVERAGE HOME VALUE RIGHT NOW AND ASP IN THAT AREA IS AROUND 375.
OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS, SALES PACE IS HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY.
I THINK WE STARTED OFF IN THE HIGH TWOS.
NOW WE'RE AT 375 AND OUR MILLAGE RATE.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALL CAME FROM CITY MILLAGE RATES.
BASICALLY WE AT 2.7 MILLION ANNUALLY AFTER THIS PROJECT IS TOTALLY BUILT OUT, THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY.
RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF INTERESTING DATA OVER EVERY ESTIMATED ONE YEAR IMPACT OF BUILDING 100 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
BASICALLY, THERE'S ABOUT 30.30 MILLION IN LOCAL INCOME, 6.1 MILLION IN TAXES, AND ABOUT FOUR NINE AT LOCAL JOBS THAT THIS CREATES.
AND WE THINK THIS IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT SLIDE BECAUSE AS WE CREATE AND BUILD MORE HOMES, DEVELOP MORE LANE IN THIS AREA, IT BRINGS UP A TON OF THE COMMERCIAL THAT IS COMING ONLINE, IS PLANNING FOR THIS AREA AS WELL.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, AFTER EVERY HOME, EVERY 100 HOMES THAT ARE BUILT IN THIS, ABOUT 4.6 MILLION IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY, 1.6 MILLION IN TAXES IN 78 LOCAL JOBS.
IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT YOU GUYS KIND OF CELEBRATED AND TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE IN THE MEETING.
SO RIGHT NOW, FOR STARTERS, PROBABLY INVESTED ABOUT $30 MILLION IN LAND ACQUISITION.
AND RIGHT NOW, AS IT'S ALL SAID, DOWN, WE'LL GET ABOUT 75 TO $80 MILLION IN SITE AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE PUT IN THE GROUND FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES, ROADS AND ALSO FOR MAIN CONSTRUCTION THAT OPENS UP THE CENTER OF THE UTILITY DISTRICT.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE AGREE WITH STAFF, AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT'S BEEN PUT UPON US.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
COUNCILMAN NOT FOR THE APPLICANT? NO, SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I DO. THEN CARRY ON.
COUNCIL MEMBER, SIR. SO I WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN.
I VOTED YES ON THE FIRST READING TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO PROVIDE THE CONCURRENCY DATA MENTIONED DURING THE APRIL 7TH MEETING AS WELL AS DEVELOPERS.
SO I THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT DATA, STAFFED IT AS WELL.
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT DATA THAT I'VE RECEIVED.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GONNA START WITH FIRE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY IT. STATION FOUR WOULD BE THE ONES I.
HANDLING THIS NEW SUBDIVISION AND HAS 6.5 MILES AWAY.
THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS SUBDIVISION APPROPRIATELY WHEN ADDED TO ITS ALREADY LARGE RESPONSE TO THE AREA OF CITIZENS.
STATION FOUR OBVIOUSLY WILL RESPOND TO THE AREA, BUT WE'LL NOT.
IT WILL NOT MEET THE NATIONAL STANDARD.
SO AN ACTUAL STATION IS PLACED CLOSER TO THAT AREA.
THE NEW RESIDENTS WHO MOVE INTO THAT FUTURE COMMUNITY WILL NOT RECEIVE THE SAME RESPONSE AS OTHER PALM BAY RESIDENTS.
CURRENTLY 20 VACANCIES ON PD AND ONLY 16 OFFICERS ON THE ROAD DURING OUR APRIL 7TH MEETING. ONE YEAR TO SPIN UP ROOKIE OFFICERS.
SCHOOLS. SO ONE THING THAT I CAME BACK TO TALK ABOUT, A SCHOOL IMPACT ANALYSIS CHAIRMAN AND STAFF WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE ME WITH THAT SCHOOL IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR PHASE ONE.
GIVE ME A SECOND. AT THIS TIME.
SUN, SUNRISE, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SOUTHWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL ARE NOT
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PROJECTED TO HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR THE TOTAL OF PROJECTED AND POTENTIAL STUDENTS FROM CYPRESS BAY WEST.IT CARRIES ON FOR TWO AND THREE.
THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE THOUGH TO THAT IS CONSIDERING THE ADJACENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CONSERVANCY CONCURRENCY SERVICE AREAS.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL, BUT THEY WON'T BE ABLE GO TO THEIR LOCAL SCHOOL. I CANNOT SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT PLACES THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC AT RISK. I CANNOT CONSIDER A DEVELOPMENT KNOWING THAT THE SCHOOLS WILL NOT HAVE THE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY FOR THOSE FUTURE CHILDREN OF PALM BAY.
THE CITY WERE LEAVING THE DEVELOPER.
A $4.2 MILLION PER ORDINANCE WON 71.31.
US COUNCIL SHOULD REVIEW AND POSSIBLY REFINE THIS ORDINANCE FROM 1991.
ONE THING FOR CERTAIN, THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T STATE THAT COUNCIL HAS TO AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I DON'T BLAME STAFF. I DON'T BLAME THE DEVELOPER.
I BLAME TRANSITION IN HISTORY.
DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THIS MAY TAKE 6 TO 8 YEARS, BUT A NEW COUNCIL DECIDE ON EVERY FOUR.
THE AVERAGE TENURE OF A CITY MANAGER IS 7 TO 8 YEARS.
NO DISRESPECT TO YOU, MS.. SHERMAN.
BUT TRANSITION, THINGS FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.
NEW PRIORITIES ARE DECIDED AND THE TAXPAYER ENDS UP WITH THE BILL FOR PAST TRANSGRESSION TRANSGRESSIONS. I POINT TO THE PALM BAY HISTORY OF GDC BOOM PALM BAY ON PROMISES THAT NEVER EMERGED IN MOST CASES HUNDREDS OF MILES OF ROADS THAT LEFT THE TAXPAYER WITH THE MAINTENANCE COST. I POINT TO THE MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE RESULTED IN OUR EMERGENCY MEDICAL PERSONNEL, AND I'M SPEAKING OF OUR COUNTY FIRE STATION NUMBER 86 AND PALM BAY STATION NUMBER SIX TO WORK OUT OF A MODULAR.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. I'M SORRY.
I'M NOT JUST COMING HERE WITH PROBLEMS. I HAVE A SOLUTION AS WELL.
AND THIS AGREEMENT, LET'S HAVE THE DEVELOPER BUILD A FIRE STATION AND A POLICE SUBSTATION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEM? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
THE PHOTO. THANK YOU, MR. FILIBERTO. GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THOSE COMMENTS.
THAT'S EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR 15 YEARS.
I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT, EMERALD LAKES, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THIS PROJECT. CYPRESS BAY EAST CYBERSPACE WEST, WHICH IS WHAT SPA HERE TONIGHT.
WATERSTONE. AND SO WE CAN HELP YOU ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP.
I'LL GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY THAT I MISSED, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
SO WITH RESPECT TO SCHOOL, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BORDER COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.
WE ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THREE DIFFERENT CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT WANT TO BE IN THIS AREA. TWO ARE VERY PROVEN IN THIS AREA.
I'VE GOT A MEETING SCHEDULE TOMORROW MORNING AT 10 A.M.
WITH ONE OF THOSE CHARTER SCHOOLS.
THAT CHARTER SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PART OF CYPRESS BAY EAST.
WE HAVE A SITE SET ASIDE FOR THAT CHARTER SCHOOL AND WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THEM.
THEY WON'T COME INTO THE AREA UNTIL THERE'S ENOUGH ROOFTOPS, SUPPORT THE SCHOOL.
AND IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AND SO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE MOVE FORWARD, THEN AT THAT TIME THE SCHOOL WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
SO WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING THAT AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR THIS WHOLE AREA. WITH RESPECT TO FIRE AND POLICE, THIS IS NOT THE SITE THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE WANTED. THEY WANTED TO BE LOCATED FURTHER OR CLOSER TO I-95 BECAUSE OF ANTICIPATED FUTURE GROWTH ON THE EAST SIDE OF 95 AND THE WEST SIDE WITH EMERALD LAKES.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT MIGHT BE COMING FORWARD CALLED MICO VILLAGE, WHICH IS ANOTHER 1500 ACRES AS WELL.
SO WITH ALL OF THAT COMING FORWARD, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF AND ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO COME UP WITH THE BEST LOCATION FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE STATION. SO ALL THIS MONEY GENERATED WITH THESE HOMES AND THE OTHER HOMES OF OTHER PROJECTS, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL THAT ALWAYS FOLLOWS THAT GOES TOWARDS THESE POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS.
SO POLICE AND FIRE ORIGINALLY WE HAD GOING ON ABOUT A FIVE ACRE SITE, BUT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THEY WANTED A LARGER SITE.
SO WE'RE WORKING TO FIND THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN ACRES AND IT WOULD BE A COMBINED FIRE AND POLICE SITE.
SO WE'VE HAD DOZENS OF MEETINGS WITH RESPECT TO JUST THAT ONE ITEM AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH ALL THIS WHOLE MASTERPLAN AREA WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE HEAR FROM COUNCIL ALL THE TIME IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN CAN WE GET MORE COMMERCIAL? THERE'S ALREADY BEEN AN APPLICATION COMING THROUGH FOR A PUBLIX IN THE AREA WITHOUT PARCELS. AND WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT IS GETTING ALL KINDS OF INTEREST AND ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL, AND THAT IS ON THE CYBERSPACE EAST AND WATERSTONE
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SIDE. AGAIN, NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION, THIS DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS RESIDENTIAL ONLY.SO THEY DON'T CONTROL THAT PART OF IT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
ALL THIS COMMERCIAL IS COMING IN RIGHT BEHIND IT.
SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING FOR THAT WHOLE REGION.
THE FOURTH MAIN PROJECT THAT IS TO SUPPORT MOSTLY THE COMMERCIAL, THE RESIDENTIAL PROVIDES VERY LITTLE FLOW.
IT'S MOSTLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
AS PART OF THE EMERALD LAKES PROJECT, WE'RE ALSO EXTENDING A LARGE WATER MAIN AND EXTENDING THAT SAME FORCE MAIN FURTHER TO AGAIN SUPPORT THE WHOLE REGION.
AND SO THAT THOSE COSTS OF THAT IS EVEN MORE THAN WHAT FOUR STAR IDENTIFIED FOR TONIGHT.
SO ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN MASTER PLAN FOR SCHOOLS, FOR POLICE, FOR FIRE, FOR THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL AND ALL OF IT'S COMING FORWARD, BUT NONE OF IT CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT THE HOMES THAT ARE COMING IN HERE FIRST.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT BAYSIDE LAKES DEVELOPED AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.
ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN MASTER PLANNED AND ALL THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR 15 PLUS YEARS WITH THE CITY.
AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE COUNCILS, WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE STAFFS THROUGHOUT THAT, AND ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN 100% SUPPORTIVE AND REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT ON THE PRECIPICE WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONES THAT ARE ONGOING TO JUMP START THE REST OF IT SO THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN.
JAKE. I BELIEVE YOU, SIR. MR. WEISS, I BELIEVE YOU. UNFORTUNATELY, HISTORY HAS DICTATED, AND EVEN THE GDC HAS MADE THE SAME PROMISES THAT YOU'RE MAKING RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE STILL CATCHING UP FROM THOSE 50 YEARS FROM THOSE MISTAKES 50 YEARS AGO.
SO I WANT TO BELIEVE YOU, AND I WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN, SIR.
I'M SERIOUS WHEN I SAY THAT IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO ME.
I HAVE PROPERTY OUT THERE, BUT I CAN'T GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROPERTY PUTTING BY PUTTING THE PUBLIC SAFETY AT RISK.
I'M SORRY. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SAFETY RISK WITH THIS PROJECT PRESENT.
YOU MAY NOT HAVE MET THE FIRST MEETING, BUT LET ME GO BACK THROUGH IT.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 20 VACANCIES AT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ALL RIGHT. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE CARS THAT ARE INEFFICIENT AND CARS THAT ARE NOT EVEN OPERABLE ON OUR STREETS.
LET ME GO THROUGH IT AGAIN, BECAUSE I KNOW I KNOW COUNCILMAN FOSTER WASN'T HERE EITHER.
SO I'LL RUN THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME.
SO THE DHS LABEL REPORT OF STRUCTURED FIRE RESPONSE TIME ANALYSIS SHOWS THE NATIONALLY AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME IS GENERALLY LESS THAN 8 MINUTES.
STATION FOUR IS 10 MINUTES AWAY OR SIX MILES.
STATION FOUR WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS NEW SUBDIVISION THAT IS 6.5 MILES AWAY.
APPROPRIATELY, WHEN ADDED TO ITS ALREADY LARGE RESPONSIVE AREA OF CITIZENS, STATION FOUR WOULD NOT WILL RESPOND TO THE AREA, BUT IT WOULD NOT MEET THE NATIONAL STANDARD UNTIL AN ACTUAL STATION IS PLACED CLOSER TO THAT AREA.
THE NEW RESIDENTS WHO MOVE INTO THAT FUTURE COMMUNITY WILL NOT RECEIVE THE SAME RESPONSE AS OTHER PALM BAY RESIDENTS.
POLICE. THE AVERAGE, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE RATE OF FULL TIME LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEES IS 1000 HABITS PER 1000 INHABITANTS IS 3.4.
THE POLICE RESPONSE ON THIS ISSUE, THERE'S CURRENTLY 20 VACANCIES ON POLICE DEPARTMENT, ONLY 16 OFFICERS ON THE ROAD DURING OUR LAST MEETING, 16 OFFICERS FOR 88 SQUARE MILES.
AND ONE YEAR TO SPLIT UP ROOKIE OFFICERS.
ONE YEAR TO OUTFIT ROAD VEHICLES.
YOU GUYS HAVE 100 UTILITIES DOWN 100%.
AND THEN SCHOOLS WHERE I JUST MENTIONED I RECEIVED MY CONCURRENCY DATA.
THE LOCAL SCHOOLS CAN'T TAKE THE CHILDREN, SO THE CHILDREN HAVE TO GO TO A SCHOOL ON A MORE DISTANT BASE. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED SCHOOLS GOING TO BE ADDED OUT THERE.
SO MY PRIMARY CONCERN HERE IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
SO RIGHT NOW, THERE'S 200 RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 2005 THAT ARE PART OF WATERSTONE THERE OFF MARYLAND BOULEVARD, WHICH IS PROJECT IS RIGHT BEHIND THERE.
THERE'S HUNDREDS, PROBABLY FOUR OR 500 HOMES BEING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NOW.
A LOT OF THEM ARE ALREADY FINISHED.
ON THE EAST SIDE OF BABCOCK STREET IS PART OF CYPRESS BAY EAST.
SO THE RESIDENTS ARE THERE ALREADY.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FIRE AND POLICE TO FIND THE RIGHT SITE THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A POLICE STATION AND THERE IS A FIRE STATION THERE, THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL ESPECIALLY THAT FOLLOWS RIGHT BEHIND IT, BRING THAT REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY.
SO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS I'VE HAD AND ALL OF THEM HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE THEY CALL ME AND THEY TEXT ME, THEY EMAIL ME. AND THE BIGGEST THING THEY ASK IS, WHEN IS THE PUBLIX COMING? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET NEW RESTAURANTS?
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THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 15 PLUS YEARS.THIS GROWTH IS THE KEY TO GETTING THAT FIRE STATION, THE POLICE STATION DOWN THERE.
AND ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.
THEY DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR A SCHOOL, BUT THEY KNOW THERE'S A NEED IN THIS AREA.
SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THREE DIFFERENT CHARTER SCHOOLS, AGAIN, TWO OF THEIR LOCAL BOARD, COUNTY, AND ONE THAT'S FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA.
THE ONE I'M MEETING WITH TOMORROW MORNING AT 10 A.M.
HAS A HISTORY OF MULTIPLE CHARTER SCHOOLS IN PALM BAY, WEST MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE AND TYPICALLY IN THE SECOND OR THIRD YEAR IT'S IN A SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF OF INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING TO ADDRESS YOUR EXACT CONCERN WITH THE WHOLE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF PALM BAY WITH A BRAND NEW INTERCHANGE, HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL TO BECOME THE NEW HUB OF PALM BAY AND GIVE THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN THOSE RESTAURANTS AND THOSE THE GROCERY STORE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY WANT.
WE'VE GOT TO GET THE HOMES AND THE ROOFTOPS FIRST FOR THE REST OF IT TO FOLLOW.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE FRONT END AND YOU'RE RIGHT BEHIND IT.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE APPLICATION IN FOR PUBLIX AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND LAKES AGAIN IS JUST ABOUT READY TO BREAK GROUND AND THAT'S 830 ACRES OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S APPROVED RIGHT NOW BY THE CITY STAFF, AND THAT WILL BE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL COMBINED AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE POLICE AND FIRE WANT TO BE.
SO WE BELIEVE THE WHOLE MASTER PLAN IS ADDRESSING EVERY ONE OF THOSE CONCERNS.
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE THAT WAS OURS FROM DAY ONE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ALL THE WAY THROUGH, SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS RELIEVE YOUR CONCERNS. I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AND SHOW YOU ALL THE MASTER PLANS, ANY COUNCILMEMBER, ANY TIME, AND SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EACH OF THE PROJECTS.
HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU THAT COMFORT LEVEL.
MORE FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. WELL, I JUST CALLED HER UP FIRST, SO.
AND COME CLOSE TO SIR, IF YOU LIKE.
I'M AN OBSERVER OF THIS PROCESS, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CITY WE HAVE CREATED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPERS A PERFECT CATCH 22.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE CAUGHT IN A WEB AND.
I THINK THE FALLACY HERE IS THAT.
IF WE WERE TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF OUR CITY SERVICES.
UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION, WE WOULD PROBABLY FIND THAT.
DOESN'T ADEQUATELY SERVICE THE PEOPLE WE HAVE NOW.
THE STARTING POINT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STARTING POINT.
SO. THERE SEEMS TO BE A NEED TO HAVE A PAUSE, A GAP WHERE THE CITY CAN BUILD OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, CAN BUILD THESE.
THINGS AND NOT WAIT, BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT FOR THE ROOFTOPS, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BUILD A SCHOOL? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO MISS SHERMAN SAID LAST WEEK.
YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THAT AREA, BUT OH, WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND YET. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE BUILDING.
I'M GOING. WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE IN PLACE.
THERE SHOULD BE MONEY HERE FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW, MR. WISE, CHOOSING WORDS LIKE POTENTIAL BECOME THE WAY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS HAVE DONE IT. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH REALITY.
WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT IS HERE.
WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS HERE NOW, NOT ONLY DO A MINIMUM JOB, BUT A BETTER THAN MINIMUM JOB.
WE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO GROW YET.
IF IF THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING, IF ALL THIS DEVELOPED, THAT IS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE THEY USED TO PHRASE IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THEY USE TWO PHRASES THAT I LIKED YOUR JOB.
YOU DID IT EXACTLY THE WAY I WOULD WANT TO DO IT.
YOU HIT EVERY NAIL ON THE HEAD EXCEPT FOR ONE.
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WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THESE HOUSES GOING TO BE? BECAUSE FLORIDA IS GETTING A LOT OF RAIN AND A LOT OF STORM AND NOBODY MENTIONED HOW HIGH THE LAND IS GOING TO BE.AND THAT'S WHERE I KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE PIPING FOR THE WATER.
THE RUNOFF IS GOING TO BE OUR PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD.
NOW, AS FAR AS WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT, THE IF AND MAYBE THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT IN MY WORLD, I DON'T BUY A CAR UNLESS I CAN DRIVE IT.
AND IF THEY REALLY WANT TO BUILD THIS, WHICH I DO KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
PUT THE MONEY UP. PUT YOUR MOUTH.
PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.
AND THEN COME AND SAY THE BUSINESSES ARE COMING.
DON'T PUT THE WHAT THEY SAY THE WAGON BEFORE THE HORSE.
NO DISRESPECT, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING.
THE 8 MINUTES I COME OUT OF DADE COUNTY AND I LIVED ALL MY LIFE IN MIAMI.
AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO.
AND NOW WE'VE GOT A CESSPOOL DOWN THERE.
EXCUSE ME, BUT IT IS OUR DOWN TIME FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS 15 MINUTES FROM IT USED TO BE 10 TO 8.
TOO MANY PEOPLE, POOR ROADS, OVERDEVELOPMENT AND IMPROPER GUIDANCE.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR BOYS ATTENTION, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KEYS. THEY'RE VERY SMALL, BUT THEY'RE THE KEY.
AND AGAIN, I EMPHASIZE YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD WITH ALL THE THINGS YOU WERE ASKING. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. PUT IT UP.
PEOPLE CAN'T SAY NO. STAY ON THE MIC.
I REALLY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
BRING UP THE. WOULD YOU HELP BRIAN? IT'S PRETTY TALL. THANK YOU, SIR.
I'M ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA HERE.
SORRY. I DON'T MEAN TO HAVE MY BACK.
SPEAK TO ME. SIR, SO TO SPEAK.
OKAY. SO THE GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE'S HOUSES ALREADY THAT'S BUILT 500 HOUSES DOWN IN THE AREA.
AND I'M THINKING HE WAS SAYING THAT, WELL, THEY'RE WAITING, YOU KNOW, MORE HOUSES WILL BE BUILT IN THE AREA.
THEN THEY'LL PUT FIVE APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING IN THERE.
WELL, THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A NUMEROUS OF YEARS ANYWAY.
HOW COME THERE HASN'T BEEN A FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS DOWN THERE NOW? WHY ARE THEY STILL WAITING? HEY, I NEED TO HAVE 1000 MORE HOUSES DOWN HERE OR WHATEVER TO BUILD OUT.
TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE A FIELD OF DREAMS. IF WE.
IF WE BUILD A HOUSES HERE, COME.
WELL, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUILD ALL THESE HOUSES, THE PEOPLE MAY NOT COME.
YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A BUNCH OF IFS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO WITH THAT PERSONALLY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S TO ME, IT'S LIKE EGGSHELLS.
IT'S STILL IFS A BUNCH OF IFS.
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO REITERATE, THERE'S RESIDENTS ALREADY DOWN THERE THAT'S BEEN WAITING FOR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER DOWN THERE.
AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SERVED AS WELL.
SO IT'S KIND OF UNFAIR TO SAY, HEY, JUST WAIT A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL WE GET A THOUSAND OR MORE OR 2000 HOUSES, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD YOU A FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUILD YOU ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF. SO THANK YOU.
YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN.
COURT I'M SORRY. COURT SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. VERTICALLY CHALLENGED.
MARY CORCORAN LYNBROOK DRIVE IN PALM BAY.
I GUESS THE SCHOOLS, THE STUDENTS COMING INTO THE SCHOOLS CAN BE SHIPPED TO OTHER SCHOOLS WHILE THEY WHILE THE HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT.
I'M A SECOND GRADE TEACHER AT ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, AND WE HAVE TOO MANY STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS ALREADY.
I WAS HIRED MID-YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD WE WENT FROM 5/2 GRADE CLASSES TO SIX AND. MY CLASSES? YES, 19 STUDENTS, BUT THERE ARE FIFTH AND FOURTH GRADE CLASSES WITH OVER 20 STUDENTS.
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AND WHEN ONE TEACHER IS OUT, THAT CAN POTENTIALLY GO UP TO 30 STUDENTS.SO IF HE IS TALKING ABOUT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND HAVING STUDENTS GO TO OTHER SCHOOLS WHILE THE HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT, THERE IS NO ROOM.
WHEN I CAME ON AND WHEN I CAME INTO THE SCHOOL, I WAS USING ONE OF THE STUDENTS HANDBOOKS TO TEACH MATH BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIND A TEACHER HANDBOOK.
UM. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO SAVE ALL THE SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, THE STUDENTS CAN GO ELSEWHERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEING BUILT BEFORE THE.
BEFORE WE SEE LIKE HOW MANY HOUSES WE CAN BUILD.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. ONCE AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN'T IGNORE GREEN SPACE.
WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT'S FIGHTING FOR GREEN SPACE RIGHT NOW.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE IS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING PLANNED AROUND IT.
AND I DON'T MEAN GREEN SPACE WITH HANDS ON IT.
THAT'S REALLY NOT GREEN SPACE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH AREA HAS BEEN DEDICATED.
LIKE HUGE PARKS LIKE OUR TURKEY CREEK WICKHAM PARK UP IN IN MELBOURNE.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'D ALSO LIKE TO INCREASE THE INDUSTRY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PALM BAY.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO ALWAYS BE KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO COMMENTS THAT I HAVE.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. ONCE AGAIN, APOSTLE CHRIS DUNCAN, JUNIOR SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA. I'M A SON OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SPEND MANY YEARS SINCE MY FATHER'S TRAIN ACCIDENT.
AS A PARENT. NOW, I THINK ABOUT SCHOOLS AND I REMEMBER THOSE AREAS LOOKING JUST LIKE HAMMOCK LANDINGS BEFORE IT WAS WHAT IT IS NOW.
SO I BELIEVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY THAT'S IMPORTANT. OUR POLICE OR FIRE.
MENTAL HEALTH OR AMBULATORY CIRCUITS AND SYSTEMS. AND I WOULD SAY ADVISE OR HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD LOOK AT GRANTS IF THE MONEYS ARE NOT THERE READILY BECAUSE MONEY IS SPOKEN ABOUT A LOT.
BUT AS YOU'VE SEEN, THE GOVERNMENT HAS CUT TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THERE'S STILL STRUGGLES IN EVERY CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF THAT.
I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN URGENCY TO SEEK WHAT FUNDS ARE THERE GRANT FUNDS? ANY OTHER FUNDS THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN HAVE ACCESS TO? THE CITY CAN HELP, MADAM CHAIR CAN HELP.
AND COHESIVELY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
WE LOST OUR DEVELOPMENT TO HAMMOCK LANDS IN WEST MELBOURNE.
I SHARE A SENTIMENT OF DEVELOPMENT HOW GOOD IT IS WHEN A BUSINESS START COMING.
I HAD TO BAKE OVER 6000 ITEMS AND THEN GET READY FOR CHAMBER OPEN AND AT THE PANERA BREAD THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OURS.
SO AS WE SEEK THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH RESPECT TO ALL COUNCIL, GOOD THOUGHTS, GOOD, STEADY MANDATES. BUT I'M HOPING THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THROUGH THE CITY RESOURCES, THROUGH LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS GRANTS AND THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IN THIS STILL PANDEMIC.
TIME TO GET THE RESEARCH THAT WE NEED LASTING.
A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST AS EVERY HUMAN BEING IS A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE IRON THAT BEATS IN OUR HEARTBEAT, IT'S WITHIN ALL OF US.
IF IT STOPS IN ONE OF OUR HEARTBEATS IN THIS ROOM, ONE OF US DIES.
IF IT STOPS IN THE WORLD, IN OUR GREENSPACES, WE ALL DIE AT ONCE.
BECAUSE OF THAT, PUBLIC SAFETY'S NEEDED.
AND IN THIS ASPECT, WE CAN DO IT.
AND I THINK THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE PERSON BEFORE WE BUILD A HOME THAT WANTS THE DESIRE OR IN THIS CASE THE OFFICER THAT NEEDS A DEPARTMENT TO FULFILL THEIR TASK, WE NEED IT.
THE NUMBERS THAT I'M HEARING ARE STAGGERING.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT IN MY BLIND.
HEARING THE SIRENS AND THE RESPONSE TIME IN WHICH MANY OF THESE OFFICERS DID, INCLUDING ROOKIE OFFICERS, THAT TERMINOLOGY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE USED ANYMORE BECAUSE ONCE AN OFFICER COMMITS THEIR LIFE, THERE'S NO ROOKIE GAME IN THAT.
BECAUSE MY DAD TOLD ME, SOMETIMES YOU WON'T MAKE IT HOME.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S 20 ODD YEARS AGO HE PASSED AWAY.
SO NOW WHEN THESE OFFICERS NEED INFRASTRUCTURE TO EXPAND, TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN HANDLE THE CAPACITY OF THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WHETHER IT BE A PANIC ATTACK OR IT'S SOMEONE JUST NEEDING HELP FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S DOWN THERE. NOW, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU BUILD A CHICKEN COOP BEFORE YOU GET THE
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CHICKEN SO THAT YOU CAN HARVEST YOUR EGGS IN FLORIDA.YOU CAN SELL 30 DOZEN EGGS A WEEK, ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNOR AND HIS OFFICE.
SO WE WE IN THAT ASPECT, WE NEED THAT BUILDING.
AND I KNOW IT CAN BE ACHIEVED.
SO I'M JUST ADDING THAT COUNCIL DOES A HARD AMOUNT OF WORK LOOKING INTO THINGS AND SOMETIMES THINGS ARE MISSED.
THAT'S WHY WE ALL COME HERE, BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS ARE EQUIPPED WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO WORK TOGETHER COHESIVELY WITH EVERYONE HERE TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT THE RESIDENTS NEED. IT'S A PART OF OUR CHARTER, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SOME GRANTS, SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP MOVE THIS FORWARD.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND IT'S ANOTHER PART OF OUR CITY VENTURE TO EXPAND OUR HORIZONS, TO CONTINUE MAKING IT GREAT BECAUSE GREATNESS IS A LEVEL THAT'S BUILT ON AND TO HOPE THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE THEIR WORK IS TAKING THAT SERIOUSLY, TO SAY, HEY, A BUILDING, NOT A ROBUST WELL, THEY WANT A BUILDING.
IT SHOULDN'T BE LIKE A PENSION CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NEEDED FOR THEM TO RESPOND. I'VE NEEDED THEM TO RESPOND TO ME.
AND THEY HAVE AND I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT. AND I'M NOT PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.
THE PREACHER ENCOURAGES THE CHOIR, BUT WE NEED TO FIND THE CHOIR DIRECTOR.
HE'S THE ONE THAT HELPS THE CHOIR LEAD.
SO WHEREVER THE CHOIR DIRECTOR, HE OR HER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? THE FORWARD. MY NAME IS BRIAN JENNETTE, PRESIDENT OF PALM BAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'M THE UNION PRESIDENT CURRENTLY FOR PALM BAY PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK HISTORY.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT FEES.
AS I KNOW IT, I'VE WORKED HERE 20 YEARS.
THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE ALWAYS MORE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE ON VEHICLES, WE'RE TALKING 30 TO 40000 FOR MOST POLICE VEHICLES, MAYBE SOME EXTRAS ONCE THEY DIAL THEM IN WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND ALL THAT. A FIRE ENGINE CURRENTLY FOR OUR DEPARTMENT IS AROUND 670,000.
A LADDER TRUCK IS 1.4 MILLION.
SO WHAT WE REQUIRE FOR RESPONDING TO THE CITIZENS COMES WITH A LOT GREATER COST TO IT.
SO YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENCE ALWAYS IN IMPACT FEES.
NEXT IS I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS AS AN EMPLOYEE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT IS, EXCEPT FOR STATION SIX, WHICH IS A CO OP STATION, CURRENTLY, IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE DAY I STARTED. WE ARE RUNNING 50 PLUS MORE PERCENT CALLS TODAY THAN WE WERE WHEN I STARTED.
WE WERE HALF THAT WHEN I STARTED.
SO. THE POINT MADE BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO IS IT'S A RELEVANT POINT.
I'VE WATCHED IT AS AN EMPLOYEE MY WHOLE CAREER AND IT IS NO, IT IS LITERALLY.
IT'S NOT A CITY MANAGER, IT'S JUST THE SYSTEM THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER TIME, I BELIEVE.
I THINK IT'S BEING ADDRESSED AND I THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD MOVEMENT IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE WATCHED DEVELOPERS COME IN AND YOU SIT AS EMPLOYEES AND YOU WATCH THESE NEW THINGS COME. AND WE ARE REALLY IN A WE'RE ON A ROLL RIGHT NOW FOR FOR DEVELOPMENT.
I'M AN EMPLOYEE. BUT IN THIS POSITION I HOLD WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR WITH THE UNION, I SIT AND WATCH AND I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT DEVELOPERS, WHEN THEY'RE FORECASTING THEIR PROFIT AND THEIR COST AND ALL THOSE THINGS THEY SHOULD BE DIALED INTO, WHAT MORE CAN THEY DO FOR PROVIDING TO THAT CITIZEN? YOU KNOW, WHEN I BUY A HOUSE.
I WANT THAT HOUSE TO HAVE SERVICE WHEN WE WORK AS EMPLOYEES FOR A CITY OF PALM BAY.
IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR US TO KNOW WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SERVE IT AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSER IN THE PROPER RESPONSE.
SO IT'S A FAIR THING TO ASK AND IT'S FAIR FOR THE CITIZENS.
THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY ALL OF OUR BOSSES.
WE DO APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET ALL THE TIME.
BUT JUST WATCHING THIS HAPPEN NOW, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A CRITICAL POINT.
FOR US TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION FOR GROWTH AND MOVE THEM FORWARD LIKE FIRE STATIONS.
LITERALLY, IT IS THE FIELD OF DREAMS. YOU SIT HERE AND THINK OF THAT MOVIE.
IF YOU BUILD A SERVICES AND THAT COMES AROUND, I THINK WE KIND OF LOST THAT A LONG TIME AGO. SO ANYWAY, MY $0.02.
PUT YOUR RENT TO 19 TRENT AVENUE.
I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS NOW FOR 17 YEARS.
THE PEOPLE GET UP HERE AND ASK YOU GUYS.
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THEY GIVE YOU THEIR OPINION.YOU'RE HEARING IT TONIGHT LOUD AND CLEAR.
I JUST ASK YOU. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.
YOUR JOB. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU RAN ON.
THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT ELECTED TO DO.
LISTEN TO HIM. PUT THE BRAKES ON.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO TO COME BACK TO THE LECTERN AND SHARE SOME ANSWERS FOR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF GOOD CONCERNS.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO ANSWER HERE.
TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING FROM.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND HAD ANSWERED QUESTIONS LIKE THIS. SO ESPECIALLY AS A DEVELOPER, I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER TOO MUCH TO THE FIRE STATION AND POLICE STATION LOCATIONS IN THE COMMERCIAL STUFF, BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT FROM OURS.
ALL I KNOW IS OUR PROJECT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED.
THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE ME APPROVED IT AND WE ARE ALL PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTHS ARE. I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT AND THAT IS BY PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND, PARTNERING WITH THE CITY, AND PUTTING THOSE DOLLARS UP FRONT AND IN FRONT OF THOSE DOLLARS SO WE CAN HAVE LIFE SAFETY AND YOU CAN HAVE THOSE FIRE STATIONS. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF WE DON'T PUT THAT FORESMAN IN OR THE WATER MAINS IN, YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE THOSE SUBSTATIONS EVEN SERVICE THAT PART OF THE PART OF THE PALM BAY.
AND I KEEP HEARING PAST DEVELOPERS.
I'M NOT SURE WHO THE PAST DEVELOPERS ARE.
ALL I KNOW IS WE'RE THE DEVELOPERS HERE AND NOW, AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT PAST CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT PAST STAFF THE WHOLE TIME WE HAVE INVESTED IN PALM BAY AND ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE STAFF BEFORE US HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH US TO DO A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT SO THE CITY DOES NOT GET CAUGHT OFF GUARD OR DOES NOT GET THIS STUFF PUT IN THE GROUND OR DOES NOT GET THESE COMMITMENTS MET.
BEFORE YOU ON, NOT ONLY IS OUR APPROVALS ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT THIS DAY IS IN PLACE AND WE'VE, WE HAVE COME TO THE FOREFRONT AND PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UTILITIES, IMPACT FEES, ROADS, ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE GROUND AND THEN WE ARE PLANNING TO DO SO.
THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH CAN COME, THE FIRE STATIONS CAN COME, THE POLICE STATIONS CAN COME, A NEW POLICE CAR CAN COME, A NEW FIRE TRUCK CAN COME.
ALL THAT IS WILL NOT COME UNLESS WE GET THIS INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND AND MAKE THIS PROJECT VIABLE.
RIGHT HERE AND THERE BEHIND ME WAS TALKING ABOUT PANERA BREAD AND SOME OTHER GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES, THOSE PANERA BREADS AND THOSE PLACES TO EAT AND THOSE PLACES TO SHOP FOR.
THOSE RESIDENTS ON THAT END OF THE COUNTY OR CITY WILL NOT COME UNLESS THIS INFRASTRUCTURE GOES IN.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE WE'VE IMPROVED BABCOCK ROAD.
WE'RE ACTUALLY I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE'RE DEDICATING AND ALSO SELLING SOME RIGHT AWAY TO THE CITY SO THEY CAN IMPROVE BABCOCK ROAD TO IMPROVE THOSE RESPONSE TIMES FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND ALSO HAVE LIFE SAFETY ON THE ROADS FOR RESIDENTS. WE'VE GONE BEFORE BEAVER COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND HAVE LOCKED IN AND SECURE CONCURRENCY FOR THE WHOLE SITE WHERE WE'RE NOT TRIPPING THOSE SEATS AND SCHOOLS IN OTHER PARTS OF FLORIDA THAT WE DO BUSINESS, WE ACTUALLY PAY MITIGATION FEES WHEN WE DO TRIP THOSE COUNTS. THIS ONE, WE HAVE NOT, BUT WE HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY FOR THIS SITE.
AND I KNOW THERE IS OTHER SECTIONS OF AND THAT AROUND OUR AREA THAT OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE LOOKING AT OR WILLING TO COME IN TO HELP ALLEVIATE THOSE SEATS.
BUT I KEEP HEARING AGAIN, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PAST, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE PAST, BECAUSE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE SEEN A HUGE AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENT FROM STAFF AND I'VE SEEN THE CITY COUNCIL DO GREAT THINGS.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING SMART THINGS.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS LIKE OURSELVES TO IMPROVE THE CITY AND BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKE IT A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
I THINK THE MAYOR ALWAYS SAYS THE GREATEST PLACE OR THE GREATEST TOWN ON EARTH, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE INVESTED ALMOST $100 MILLION IN THIS AREA, OR WE'LL INVEST $100 MILLION IN EACH AREA BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE CITY, WE BELIEVE IN ITS RESIDENTS, WE BELIEVE IN THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE BELIEVE IN STAFF.
SO I THINK A COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS I WANT TO KIND OF ADDRESS IS, IS GREEN SPACE.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT COMMENT.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT SOMEONE DID TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM.
AND THAT'S WHY IN OUR COMMUNITIES, WE'RE SPENDING $5.5 MILLION OF OUR MONEY TO BUILD AMENITY CENTERS FOR CHILDREN, FOR OUR ACTIVE ADULTS, FOR OUR REGULAR RESIDENTS TO USE AND HAVE A PLACE TO UTILIZE AND PLAY.
WE'VE GOT FLEX FIELDS PROGRAMED FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE THAT CAN BE USED FOR FLAG FOOTBALL, FOR SOCCER.
I'M A BIG YOUTH YOUTH ATHLETIC SPORTS ADVOCATE.
WE DO THIS WITH ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
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WE HAVE A TONS OF OPEN SPACE PLANNED.I THINK THE ONE GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER.
MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'VE DONE TONS OF PRE AND POST DESIGN ANALYSIS ON THE SITE.
WE HAVE WE'VE DONE A TON OF PRE AND POST DESIGN STORMWATER ANALYSIS ON THE SITE SO WE CAN RETAIN THAT WATER ON SITE, IMPROVE WATER QUALITY BEFORE IT ACTUALLY COMES OUT OF THE AGRICULTURAL FIELDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
NOW, IMPROVE THE DRAINS IN THAT AREA, IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE ON BABCOCK.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT ON SOME OF THE OTHER EXISTING PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE INSTALLED NOW. SO KIND OF GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER PETER AND WHAT HE SAYS.
I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERNS, I REALLY DO.
I CAN'T CONTROL HOW IMPACT FEES ARE USED OR HOW THE CITY USES IMPACT FEES FOR POLICE AND FIRE. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD HOW POWER GETS MORE THAN POLICE ANYWAYS AND IMPACT FEES. TO ME THEY SHOULD BE BOTH EQUAL.
I KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SPENDS A LOT MORE MONEY ON OUR FIRE ENGINES, BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT ALL THAT WORKS IN A CITY GOVERNMENT.
ALL I DO KNOW IS OUR IMPACT FEES AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HELPS PROMOTE ALL THIS GROWTH AND IT HELPS ESTABLISH IT.
AND WITHOUT A DEVELOPER LIKE FORESTER WHO IS COMMITTED TO DO THIS STUFF, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. AND TECHNICALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO A DA.
WE ALREADY HAD THE APPROVALS IN PLACE, BUT WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY, DO A DE, DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, DO RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND NOT BE THE PAST.
AND I'M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE PAST BECAUSE I'M NOT THE PAST.
WE'RE NOT A DEVELOPER OF THE PAST.
WE'RE DEVELOPER OF THE FUTURE AND OF NOW.
AND ALL I KNOW IS WHERE YOU'RE SPENDING DOLLARS TO HELP IMPROVE THIS CITY.
BUT WE ARE HERE NOW TO DO THAT AND WE ARE DOING IT AND WE'RE HERE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND WE'RE HERE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND I'M VERY PROUD TO INVEST THIS AND HAVE A PROJECT IN THE CITY LINES.
THANK YOU. ANY. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.
YES. MAYOR, I'LL JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION TONIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT, BUT JUST VERY BRIEFLY, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THOSE WHO ARE HERE, SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF IMPACT FEES AND HOW HOW THINGS FLOW IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
SO JUST SO THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW ARE AWARE, IT WAS ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO THAT THE CITY DID A FULL STUDY ON THE IMPACT FEES AND ACTUALLY UPDATED THEM FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND AND OTHER CATEGORIES TO MAKE THEM BE MORE APPROPRIATE IN TERMS OF THE VALUE THAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD PAY.
MAKE THEM BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE MEETING, THE FUTURE NEEDS OF POLICE AND FIRE.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THE RATES WERE VERY, VERY LOW.
AND THOSE ARE THE IMPACT FEES ARE THE RATES THAT PER FLOOR STATUTES.
IT'S KIND OF ESTABLISHED WHAT THE PURPOSE OF AN IMPACT FEE IS, BUT IT BASICALLY IS ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT IN A CITY, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES AND THAT IS THEIR FAIR SHARE, THEIR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE OF CONTRIBUTING TOWARD THE NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE IN A CITY.
IN THIS CASE, WE'RE TALKING POLICE, FIRE STATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT AGAIN ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO, WHERE OUR RATES UPDATED TO REALLY REFLECT THE NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT, TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED MORE FIRE ENGINES AND STATIONS, ETC..
BUT BECAUSE OF THAT AND BECAUSE WE'RE IN A GROWTH PERIOD, WE ARE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS POSITIONING OURSELVES BETTER TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE NEEDS TO, IN MY OPINION, KEEP PACE WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS.
IT MAY NOT BE THAT WE HAVE THE FIRE STATION AND POLICE SUBSTATION THERE AT THE VERY MOMENT THAT THE FIRST HOUSE GOES INTO A DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT.
WE, IN FACT, HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH ONE OF THE OTHER LARGER DEVELOPERS TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUR SITE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE POLICE AND FIRE SUBSTATION OUT ALONG ST JOHN'S PARISH PARKWAY IN THE SOUTH.
SO THE POINT OF ALL THAT IS TO SHARE THAT WE UPDATED OUR OUR RATE STRUCTURE FOR IMPACT FEES. WE ARE ACTIVELY TAKING THOSE IMPACT FEES IN AND FROM EACH DEVELOPER.
AS WE TAKE THEM IN, THEY BUILD ENOUGH FUNDING.
THAT'S THE INTENT TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MEET THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS. I WILL TELL YOU, JUST AS A FINAL COMMENT, THAT STAFF IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON IMPROVING OUR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE POSITION.
SO WE'VE HAD COUNTLESS PLANNING MEETINGS AND ALREADY HAVE IDENTIFIED SITES FOR FIRE STATIONS CITYWIDE.
THERE'S DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH BREVARD COUNTY BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE THE EMS SERVICES REGARDING THEIR ROLE IN THE CITY'S EXPANSION AS WELL.
AND STAFF IS ACTIVELY PREPARING FOR THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW THE TIME HAS COME AND THE IMPACT FEES ARE COMING IN AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE FUTURE.
THE OTHER THING I LASTLY WOULD SAY IS THAT THE OTHER THING THAT STARTS TO CHANGE OUR
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POSITION FINANCIALLY IS THE MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WE GET.BECAUSE THEN WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO MORE IN THE TAX BASE GROWS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
THAT ENABLES US TO KIND OF REALLY EXPAND OUR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT FOR EVERYONE.
I'VE BEEN ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS AND FOR THE HISTORY OF THIS, MA'AM, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE. SO ALREADY, BECAUSE AS AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED, THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED ON COUNCIL. AND WE'RE SEEING IT BECAUSE I'D LIKE YOU TO GO ON THE RECORD.
WE'RE SEEING THIS ITEM. IT'S ALREADY ALL THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS HAVE BEEN GRANTED FOR PHASES ONE THROUGH THREE AND BEYOND.
AND THIS IS REALLY THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GO BEYOND THEM JUST PAYING THEIR IMPACT FEES. SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT A PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THE POINT OF THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS TO OUTLINE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER IS COMMITTED TO ACTUALLY BUILDING ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS THAT GO BEYOND THEIR IMPACT FEE CONTRIBUTION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S A SET FIXED AMOUNT PER THE IMPACT FEE RATES, AN ORDINANCE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY.
THEY'RE BUILDING MORE THAN THAT.
SO THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE CREDIT PER THE ORDINANCE.
BUT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGREEMENT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TIE INTO OUR OUR WASTEWATER PLANT AS WELL, WHICH IS CRITICAL TO FUTURE GROWTH AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.
YES, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS AGREEMENT.
BUT THERE ARE UTILITY AGREEMENTS THAT ARE BEING FINALIZED NOW WITH WITH THIS DEVELOPER AND OTHERS RELATED TO THE EXPANSION OF WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES FOR DOWN SOUTH, WHICH CURRENTLY DO NOT EXIST IN LARGE PART.
YOU, MA'AM. ALSO, ANY ANY QUESTIONS? MAYBE I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST FOR THE RECORD.
OTHER THAN FIRE STATIONS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE.
CONNOLLY BROUGHT IT UP IN REGARDS TO THE 3% CAP.
AND I'VE TALKED TO BOTH FIRE AND POLICE AS WELL, BECAUSE A PART OF IT IS ALSO MAKING SURE THERE WE'VE BEEN WE'VE DONE GREAT CONTRACTS FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS, BUT ALSO JUST GETTING THE MEN AND WOMEN SUITED UP AND READY TO GO AND HAVING THE PROPER FUNDING FOR THAT.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN SPEAK ON A LITTLE BIT? MS. SHERMAN. CERTAINLY.
SO THE 3% CAP IS A CHARTER REQUIREMENT THAT BASICALLY REQUIRES THE CITY TO ONLY TAKE IN UP TO 3% OF INCREASED VALUE FOR OUR EXISTING TAX BASE, ESSENTIALLY TO TRY TO SAY IT SIMPLY. SO IF THERE'S A CITY VALUE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT AND IT GOES UP SIX VALUES, PROPERTY VALUES, ETC., GO UP SIX, 7% MORE THAN THAT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THE CITY HAS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE TAKE IN AND CAP IT AT 3%.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A FAIRLY ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION ACTUALLY NEXT TUESDAY FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED, AS MS. CONNELLY ALREADY ALLUDED TO.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH A FAIRLY HEFTY PRESENTATION ON THAT ITEM AGAIN.
BUT I GUESS THE POINT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR, IS THAT WHAT THAT HAS DONE ESSENTIALLY IS IT'S IT'S LIMITED THE CITY'S ABILITY TO TAKE IN NEW REVENUE AND NEW CONSTRUCTION. WE CAN TAKE THE VALUE FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AT ITS AT ITS FULL RATE. BUT THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE HAVE TO CAP, CAP THAT WHICH IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, ESPECIALLY AS WE GET MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN JUST TO ADD TO THAT, SO SAY I'M JUST THROWING OUT A RANDOM NUMBER, BUT SAY WE HAVE 1.5 MILLION BASED OFF THE 3% CAP AND WE HAVE FIRE ASKING FOR TEN NEW POSITIONS AND WE HAVE POLICE ASKING FOR TEN NEW POSITIONS, WHICH EQUALS UP TO 2.5 MILLION.
OR I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS, BUT YOU GET THE POINT.
THAT'S WHAT ALSO HAS GOTTEN US HERE AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR IF IF THEY WANT TO ADD TO IT, BECAUSE I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH SIDES.
BUT YEAH, I'LL, I'LL ELABORATE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO IMPACT FEES ARE INTENDED FOR MEETING GROWTH NEEDS.
SO IT'S TO BUY SOMETHING NEW OR BUILD SOMETHING NEW, A NEW FIRE STATION, A NEW POLICE CAR, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
SO THE REST OF THE COST TO PROVIDE POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES IS ALL BORNE BY THE GENERAL FUND TAX BASE. SO OUR OUR AD VALOREM TAXES THAT WE'RE ALL PAYING.
SO IF THOSE IF THOSE TAXES ARE LIMITED BY THE CHARTER AND YOU NEED TO EXPAND YOUR ABILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY BY ADDING MORE STAFF OR BY CHANGING THE PAY RATES FOR THE STAFF SO THAT YOU CAN RECRUIT AND RETAIN, IT DOES BECOME VERY LIMITING TO DO THAT AND DO THAT WELL AND MEET THE NEEDS OF A GROWING CITY WHICH WHICH WE WHICH WE ARE SO.
AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO MEET AGAIN LIKE THEY'RE MEETING THIS YEAR? WHEN ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO MEET AGAIN?
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IS IT EVERY SEVEN YEARS OR EVERY TEN YEARS? IT'S EVERY TEN YEARS. EVERY TEN YEARS.COUNCILMAN FAWCETT? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
AND I WANT TO I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WANT THE CITY MANAGER TO GIVE ME THE ANSWER.
IF WE WANT MORE FIRE AND POLICE, THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAVING NOW, EVERYBODY SAY WE NEED MORE FIRE. WE NEED A FIRE STATION.
HOW DO WE GET FIRE AND POLICE? WE GET IT BY RAISING OUR TAXES.
I WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER TO ANSWER THAT.
HOW DO WE INCREASE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE TRUCKS? WE GET IT BY RAISING OUR TAXES OR DO WE GET IT BY IMPACT FEES? THANK YOU, SIR. SO THE BULK OF THE ANSWER I'LL GIVE YOU, IT'LL BE PIECES, BUT THE BULK OF THE ANSWER IS THAT COMES FROM YOUR TAX BASE.
YOU CAN ONLY USE YOUR IMPACT FEES REALLY FOR THE BEGINNING.
SO YOU CAN USE IT AND IT'S ONLY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO YOU CAN USE IT TO BUY THE FIRST FIRE STATION OR THE FIRST FIRE TRUCK OR ADDITIONAL AS AS GROWTH HAPPENS.
BUT IF YOU NEED A REPLACEMENT STATION OR REPLACEMENT TRUCK, THAT HAS TO COME FROM YOUR TAX BASE. ADDITIONALLY, ALL THE SALARIES, ALL THE OPERATING COSTS, ALL HAVE TO COME FROM YOUR TAX BASE, NOT FROM IMPACT FEES.
EXACTLY. AND I KNEW THAT ANSWERED.
BUT I MEAN, SO WHEN YOU HAVE A CAP.
AND YOU NEED THE IMPACT FEEDS LIKE THE DEVELOPER BUILD THE FIRE STATION.
THE DEVELOPER. WE ALREADY GOT OUR IMPACT FEES.
BUT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE GOT TO GET THAT FROM OUR TAXES.
RIGHT. AND A CAP WILL LIMIT US FROM GETTING THAT.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
I WANT TO JUST COMMENT ON COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
I THINK HE'S HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IF WE COULD SOMEHOW INCORPORATE.
HEY, YOU WANT CREDIT IMPACT FEES, BUILDING THAT FIRE STATION, BUILDING THAT THAT SUBSTATION WOULD.
I KNOW THAT I VOTED FOR THIS IN THE PAST AND THIS IS MORE OF A POLICING.
BUT I THINK COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO I'M GOING TO VALIDATE WHAT HIS THOUGHT PROCESS IS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? WELL, YOU ALREADY SPOKE, SIR.
YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ALREADY.
YES, SIR. I'M NOT BEING RUDE, BUT THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL HEARING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND FOUR STAR USA REAL ESTATE GROUP, INC..
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY COMMENTS? DEPUTY MAYOR YEAH.
JUST REAL QUICK, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT POLICE STATION, FIRE STATION, LIKE FOR THEM TO BUILD IT, BUT THEY'RE PUTTING THE MONEY FORWARD TO BUILD IT.
I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION WHEN WE UPDATED OUR IMPACT FEES AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS BIG ON IT AS WELL BECAUSE IT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LIKE RIGHT NOW, JUST BEING HONEST, WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP AND IMPACT FEES WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ADDRESSED AS A COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BE IN A BETTER POSITION.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT POLICE STATIONS, FIRE STATIONS, PARKS, THAT'S THAT'S IMPACT FEE. SO I APPRECIATE MS.. SHERMAN ELABORATING ON THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAID, THE TAX BASE.
SO I'M GOOD WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE ACTUALLY VOTING AGAINST THIS IS VOTING AGAINST FUTURE COMMERCIAL, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE HOW ARE WE GOING TO THE PUBLIC ISN'T GOING TO COME IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
SO WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LOOKING MORE ANTI COMMERCIAL THAN FUTURE COMMERCIAL HELPING OUT. WHAT WE AS A COUNCIL HAD AGREED UPON UNANIMOUSLY.
SO I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
SO I'M GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE ON COUNCIL WHEN THIS INFLATION TODAY IS UNBELIEVABLE. AH, THE COST OF GAS IS UNBELIEVABLE.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR RESIDENTS IS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE BACKS OF OUR RESIDENTS TODAY.
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SO I'M GOING TO.SO MY MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS BECAUSE THERE IS A PART THAT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS IMPACT FEES AND IN MY OPINION AND I PLAN ON BRINGING THIS UP AND UNDER MY REPORTS COUNCIL.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I JUST THOUGHT OF.
I PLAN ON BRINGING SOMETHING FOR.
IF I WANTED TO GET A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL ON US MOVING FORWARD AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE COST OF DIESEL, GAS, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SUPPLY CHAIN, ALL OF THAT HAS INCREASED THE COST.
SO I KNOW THAT I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.
THIS IS NOT PART OF THE THE ITEM.
BUT YOU MENTIONED THE IMPACT FEES AND AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
I'LL BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AS A WHOLE.
ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FELIX.
YOU MADE THE SECOND. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I APPRECIATE IT. I'VE BEEN PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION.
I THINK COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO BRING A LOT OF VALID POINTS.
BUT WHAT'S AT HAND TONIGHT? WE JUST LITERALLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING.
PUTTING A LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING BACK AND FORTH.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING ITEM THREE CONSIDERATION OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I THINK WE WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.
IN ESSENCE, THIS DISCUSSION SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE A LONG TIME AGO, PRIOR TO THE PRIOR PHASE PHASES.
WE NEED TO MOVE, MOVE THIS FORWARD.
THE DEPUTY MAYOR STATED WELL BY SAYING WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THIS BY NOT MOVING FORWARD TONIGHT AND TAKE THE PROPER COURSE OF ACTION, IT WOULD IT'S GOING TO SLOW THINGS DOWN AND POTENTIALLY FIRE STATION POLICE SUBSTATION.
YOU WILL NEVER SEE THAT DOWN THERE.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE AGREEMENT.
I BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPER SHOW A LOT OF GOOD FAITH BY COMMENDING BY PUSHING FOR THAT THE COMMITTING TO THIS.
WE NEED TO JUST SLOW DOWN THE DISCUSSION AND MOVE FORWARD.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN FOSTER? I SAT THERE. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO CONCERN ABOUT SAFETY.
I'VE BEEN A FIRST RESPONDER ALL MY CAREER, AND I'M AND I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY.
THAT'S NOT THE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE GOT IN FRONT OF US.
YOU KNOW, THE PAST. WE TALK ABOUT THE PAST.
YOU HAVE POOR LEADERSHIP IN PALM BAY.
IF YOU'VE BEEN IN PALM BAY FOR 20 YEARS, YOU ALLOW AND YOU VOTED FOR THAT POOR LEADERSHIP. SIMPLY PUT.
I'M NOT GOING TO SUGARCOAT ANYTHING TONIGHT.
YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP NOW.
YOU MIGHT DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ALL HAVE A FOCUS.
WE WANT TO GET TO ONE PLACE, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
I THANK THE DEVELOPER FOR SPENDING THEIR MONEY IN PALM BAY.
AND THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT FEES AND ONCE THE IMPACT FEE GO.
SO ON THE RESIDENTS AND THE WAY TO GET YOUR NOT INCREASE I DON'T BELIEVE IN I DON'T LIKE INCREASING TAX BASIS.
I LIVE HERE TOO AND I HAVE A RESIDENT HERE TOO.
AND I'M NOT PLANNING TO GO ANYWHERE.
SO I DON'T WANT MY TAXES INCREASE, JUST LIKE YOU DON'T WANT YOUR TAXES INCREASE.
BUT SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO PAY FOR SAFETY.
IN THE MILITARY. HE SAID FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
AND THERE'S NO PRICE FOR A FIREFIGHTER COMING IN YOUR HOUSE AND SAVING YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING A HEART ATTACK IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR LIVING ROOM FLOOR.
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT PRICE THEN.
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT TAXES THEN.
OR SOMEONE BREAKING IN YOUR HOUSE WHILE YOU'RE SLEEPING.
AND THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE ARRIVING AND CATCHING THIS.
I'VE BEEN AT BOTH SCENES BEFORE.
IT COSTS MONEY AND IT GUESS WHAT? NEWS FLASH IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO COST MONEY LONG AFTER DEVELOPERS ARE GONE.
AND I BELIEVE IN YOUR SAFETY AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR SAFETY.
AND THE WAY TO GET THERE IS GET THESE IMPACT FEEDS AND DEVELOP THE CITY.
EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
OKAY. BUT WE WE HAVE TO GROW THE CITY SMART AND WE HAVE TO GET COMMERCIAL AND MOVE
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FORWARD. AND WE WENT TO ME WE WENT OFF THE RAILS WITH THIS CONVERSATION.I THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND AND DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WORKING WITH.
WORKING WITH OUR CITY STAFF AND.
AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING GOES PROPERLY.
AND I GOT TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR PALM BAY IN THE FUTURE. IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR BUSINESS COMING HERE TO DO ANY DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK. THAT'S WHY GDC SCREWED UP PALM BAY.
IT LEFT US WITH THE MESS THAT I'M DEALING WITH THAT YOU PUT ME ON THIS STAGE TO DEAL WITH. SO LET'S LET'S GET IT DONE.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COUNCIL JUST ONE MINUTE.
I JUST WANT TO REFER THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE TO A SECTION 171.33 USE OF FUNDS SECTION G RETURN OF FUNDS IF NOT SPENT ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR ANY IMPACT FEES COLLECTED SHALL BE RETURNED TO THE FEE PAYER OR SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST IF THE IMPACT FEES ARE NOT SPENT WITHIN SEVEN YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY POLLS? HEY, PASSES 4 TO 1.
WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER FOR ORDINANCE 2022.
TWO HAS 40 TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
A CHANGE IN A ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM EIGHT C HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND OUR M TEN SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO BE A MOO A FRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT AS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF KNOWLES AVENUE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT.
DEPUTY MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO HEAR OUR REQUEST.
FROM WHY I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE APPLICANT FOR CASE NUMBER CPD'S DASH SIX DASH 2022.
THIS IS OUR SECOND AND FINAL READING FOR THIS REQUEST.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNCIL? OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION REAL QUICK.
SO JUST I KNOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE, BUT I WILL JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS JUST TO WATCH OUR TIME SO FAR TONIGHT, THEY GIVE A LITTLE RECAP, OUR PROJECT LOCATION HERE. WE'RE SOUTH OF PORT MELBA BOULEVARD, NORTHEAST AND ALONG THE US HIGHWAY ONE CORRIDOR NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF GRAND AVENUE NORTHEAST AND THE US HIGHWAY ONE.
AGAIN, OUR SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 12.4 ACRES IN SIZE.
JUST TO NOTE, BASED ON THE LAST READING, THE FIRST RATING, THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WAS MODIFIED TO BE IMU BASED ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20.2 41.
SO NOW THE SITE DOES HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF BEAM VIEW.
WHAT THAT SAID, THE SITE HAS A SPLIT ZONING BETWEEN ONE SIDE HAVING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE OTHER HALF HAVING HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.
SO WITH THAT WAS SPLIT ZONING.
OUR REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO ONE COHESIVE ZONING DESIGNATION BEING THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE THE B IMU. AGAIN, JUST TO NOTE THAT BASED ON THE APRIL 7TH READING, FIRST READING IS THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
CP SIX 2022 WAS ADOPTED THROUGH THAT ORDINANCE 2020 TO 41.
SO THE SITE DOES HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF B IMU.
SO WITH THIS REQUEST, IT WOULD BRING THE ZONING DESIGNATION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS FUTURE LAND USE.
AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP, THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN DISTRICT. MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE SOUTH COVE, AS YOU SEE HERE ON THIS MAP, IS JUST TO SHOW THAT THE BMA'S ZONING DESIGNATION IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN DISTRICT. AND NOW WHAT THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN DISTRICT INTENDS TO DO IS CREATE A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS, TO HAVE A INCLUSION OF BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS SERVING COMMERCIAL USES WITH A HIGHER RESIDENTIAL USE.
SO WITH THAT, JUST WANT TO SHOW KIND OF THE SURROUNDING USES WITH OUR SUBJECT SITE, AS YOU SEE HERE ON THIS MAP, THAT WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY TO OURSELVES AND TO OUR EAST AND
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TOWNHOMES TO OUR NORTH.WE HAVE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG THE US HIGHWAY ONE CORRIDOR AND THERE IS ALREADY A PRECEDENCE OF BEAM YOU TO OUR NORTH WITH THE INDIAN RIVER VILLAS.
AS WE RECAP BEFORE, AT THE FIRST READING, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT AND MEETS ALL FOUR CRITERIA FOR THE REZONING AND WHAT THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS.
APPROVAL. WE RECEIVED AN END MS. APPROVAL FROM PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AT THE MARCH 2ND PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THEM THIS APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL FIRST READING JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AT THE APRIL 7TH. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER IF YOU HAVE ANY.
AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TAKING TONIGHT TO HEAR THIS REQUEST.
THANK YOU. ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT OR.
ANY COUNCIL STAFF STAFF COMMENTS? NO, SIR, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COUNCIL. HEY, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I'M CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKED FOR A MOTION.
MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 42 FINAL READING.
A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YOU'RE NOT ALL IN FAVOR HIGH ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
AUDIENCE 2020 247 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, OMITTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING ALLOCATING FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A CONSISTING OF SIX PAGES AND INCORPORATING IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MS..
THIS IS FINAL READING FOR THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? HEY. SEE YOU. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 47 FINAL READING.
SECOND, MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION REGARDING ITEM FIVE, GENTLEMEN? IN. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.
THIS IS UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER SIX.
WHAT IS 2020 248 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA.
AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 11 BUSINESS REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 114 GARAGE SALES AND MODIFYING THE NUMBER OF GARAGE SALE EVENTS PER RESIDENCE, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MS..
WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE APRIL 7TH COUNCIL MEETING, AND BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, THE ORDINANCE PROPOSED HERE TONIGHT BASICALLY WILL MODIFY IT FROM ALLOWING FOR TWO SALES PER YEAR TO ONE PER QUARTER PER RESIDENCE.
COUNSELOR, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEE, ANON, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
BOTH SHOULD IMPROVE ON ITS 2022 DASH 48 FINAL READING.
I CAN MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SMITH GORDON'S 2022 DASH 43 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY MENT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THE APPLICANT HERE. WITH WEATHERSPOON.
THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM LAST MEETING AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.
IS THE APPLICANT OUTSIDE? CAN THEY HEAR THE INTERCOMS ON OUTSIDE?
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OKAY. SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.ANY. ANY. ANY THOUGHTS? MISS SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO SHARE? OUR STAFF HAS NOT ADVISED THAT THEY WERE AWARE THAT THE APPLICANT WASN'T COMING.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION TO PROVIDE.
AND WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE SPEAKERS TO COME UP THE RESIDENCE.
YES, SIR. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
WE DON'T NEED SPEAKERS, CORRECT? AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GOT IT.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO COME AND SPEAK FOR THIS OR THIS ITEM.
ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR THIS ITEM? I'M SUSAN CONNOLLY.
CASTAWAY COVE 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY.
MAY I ASK FIRST? SHOULD I BE SPEAKING? I WAS GOING TO SPEAK REGARDING THE ZONING.
BUT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER THAT OR WE'RE TALKING, MA'AM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS, OH, STOP THE CLOCK.
WELL, WELL, THE THE FUTURE LAND USE.
YEAH. IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT, WE HAVE TO DO THIS IF WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT.
YOU WANT TO HEAR MY COMMENTS? YES. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO, GENTLEMEN, BEDROOMS CAN BE BUILT THROUGHOUT PALM BAY, BUT BAYFRONT CANNOT.
THE 133 ACRE LAND PARCEL AND HIAWATHA GARDENS IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WITH THE DESIGNATION AS WATERFRONT AND NATURAL BEAUTY CORRIDOR.
DEVELOPING THE BAYFRONT IS DIFFERENT FROM DEVELOPING HIGH END, HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER.
ONE AT HIAWATHA GARDENS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
IT'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE CASTAWAY POINT PARK, THE TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY AND THE RIVER WALK. RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES HERE ARE PLENTIFUL FOR ALL CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
ACTIVITIES FISHING, KAYAKING, BOATING, SWIMMING.
THERE IS NO COST FOR THE AMENITIES IN THIS AREA BECAUSE IT IS NATURE ITSELF.
AMENITIES HERE ARE FOR ALL THE PALM BAY TO ENJOY THE US CORRIDOR.
THIS US ONE CORRIDOR IS MEANT TO BE A DESTINATION, NOT A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
A DESTINATION THAT GIVES PALM BAY A PERSONALITY AND A PURPOSE.
A DESTINATION THAT PROVIDES A MIX OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WITH NATURAL BEAUTY ATTRACTIONS.
KEEPING THE ZONING AS IS SO IT CAN BE DEVELOPED ACCORDING TO PLANS THAT INCLUDE A SPECIFIC FOCUS ON THE BAYFRONT AREA.
PLANS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ARE THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE 2024 BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THE PALM BAY VISION 2040.
THESE PLANS ARE NOT A PLAN DEVELOPED BY A BUILDER FOR PROFIT.
CITIZENS WHO CREATE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BECAUSE CITIZENS WHO LIVE HERE MAKE IT A PLACE FOR ALL.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M CONTEMPLATING MY OWN MOTION.
OR IN ITS 2022 DASH 43, ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED.
CAN I START, MARY? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
NO, I'M AND I LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AND WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING COMMERCIAL EARLIER.
THANK YOU. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL HERE.
BASED OFF WHAT I SEE BEFORE US, THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.
BUT WHAT I SEE BEFORE US, WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING THE COMMERCIAL TO SINGLE FAMILY USE.
AND THIS IS A PRIME AREA THAT IS GOING TO BOOM WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
AND I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE AWAY THE THE LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL WE ALREADY DO HAVE IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW.
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WHEN I SEE A PRIME OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO DEVELOP.AND YES, IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED YET, BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY COMING TO THE BAYFRONT, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN AND WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO MATCH THAT AREA, IT WILL BE BEST AS COMMERCIAL.
SO BEING THAT ASSETS MAY IS WHY I MADE MY MOTION TO DENY AND I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR EVERY INCH OF COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT WE DO HAVE IN IN OUR CITY, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT'S GOING TO INCREASE OUR TAX BASE.
RIGHT? THAT IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPRUCE OUR ECONOMY.
WITH THE PROPERTY THAT WE SOLD TO MIKE TIMMONS, WE'RE WE'RE EXPECTING GREAT THINGS IN THAT AREA. SO I'M FULLY ON BOARD WITH KEEPING THAT 1.33 ACRES.
SO COUNCIL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN? WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY BY JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MYSELF.
I'LL START AT COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? JUST ECHOING WHAT YOU SAID, MR. MAYOR AND THE DEPUTY MAYOR.
SIMON FELIX. NICK MAYOR, I KNOW THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT I HAD A REAL HARD TIME WITH.
I WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT WITH WITH YOU TWO GENTLEMEN.
I'M ACTUALLY THREE AT THIS POINT.
I WOULD SUPPORT TO FIND THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
YEAH. I SUPPORT IT IN DENYING IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
THERE IS NO ITEM, MATE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO THERE'S NO REZONING.
SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO CONSENT.
HOWEVER, BEFORE WE DO, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO START WE'RE ON CONSENT AGENDA AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE ITEMS FOR SIX, TEN AND 14.THIS COUNCIL WISHED TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS. SIX, TEN AND 14.
THIS COUNCIL WISHED TO PULL ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL ITEMS. IT'S ENOUGH. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.
YEAH. MR. MAYOR, IF YOU COULD REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME, SIR.
I'M SORRY. ITEMS FOR DEPUTY MAYOR.
SORRY. I'LL REPEAT FOR SIX, TEN AND 14.
THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO PULL ITEMS 15 AND 18.
YES. BUT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A.
AND ANY OTHER ITEMS. AND ALSO. YOU WISH TO PULL.
WAITING FOR THE REAL ESTATE COMMENT.
OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE OTHERS.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT REMOVAL OF ITEMS FOR SIX, SEVEN, TEN, 14, 15 AND 18. SECOND.
A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR.
I. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING RESOLUTION 2021.
THAT'S 53, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020 206, ADOPTING A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
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PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 THROUGH 2022 THROUGH 2025 THROUGH 2026 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTIAL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.BILL BATTEN. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY
[4. Resolution 2022-17, amending Resolution 2021-52, as amended, adopting Classification and Pay Plans and the Position Control Plan for employees of the City of Palm Bay (second amendment).]
STREET SOUTHWEST UNDER ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH THE.I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT IF WE IF WE DID TAKE EVERY ONE OF THE.
CHANGES, WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT GOING TO BE? AND THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT QUESTION WITH THE 3% CAP.
ARE WE EVENTUALLY, AFTER WE MAKE EVERYBODY WITH THEIR HIGHER PAY RAISES, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? SO HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO END UP COSTING US AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT GOING TO BE ON OUR 3% CAP IN OUR TOTAL BUDGET? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS AN ITEM WE BRING QUARTERLY, SO FOUR TIMES A YEAR TO COUNCIL TO REFLECT CHANGES IN THE POSITION CONTROL.
ANY CHANGES THAT RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING BEING NEEDED, BEING NECESSARY TO FUND A CHANGE PROPOSITION. THOSE HAVE ALREADY COME TO COUNCIL.
THEY'RE PART OF SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS. SO THE CHANGES THAT ARE IN HERE ARE, FOR THE MOST PART, RECLASSIFICATIONS CHANGING AN EXISTING POSITION TO A DIFFERENT PAY GRADE.
SOMETIMES THOSE RESULTS IN INCREASES, BUT THERE'S FUNDING WITHIN THE BUDGET TO HANDLE IT AND SOMETIMES THOSE RESULT IN DECREASES.
SO THEIR SAVINGS I DO NOT HAVE A TOTAL TALLY OF THE EFFECT OF ALL OF THESE FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT FOR MR. BATTEN AND FOR COUNCIL IF DESIRED.
YES, MA'AM. I LIKE IF WE COULD PASS THAT ON.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION? IMPROVE THE POSITION OF CONTROL PLAN CHANGES, AS NOTED.
SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX BILL BACK HERE.
[6. Resolution 2022-19, conveying City-owned surplus real estate located at 254 Holiday Park Boulevard NE to buyer Teresa M. Whiteman-Watson ($24,855).]
YES. IF I MAY READ THE CAPTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND ITEM NUMBER SIX BEFORE MR. BATTEN SPEAKS. YES, MA'AM.RESOLUTION 2020 217 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING RESOLUTION 2020 152, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020 205, ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS IN THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 THROUGH 2022.
RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OF PAST RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. RESOLUTION 2022.
THAT'S 19 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING CONVEYING PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 26, PAGE 12 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
FIVE, SIX, SIX OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I HAD ITEMS SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE COMBINED, BUT I'M GOING TO DO SEVEN ALSO AFTER THIS. MY COMMENT WAS.
THAT THE FUNDING OF THIS GOES INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND AND THAT'S ALL GREAT.
WE'RE SELLING EXCESS PROPERTY AND IT'S GOING TO HELP PAY FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
BUT THAT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE INCOME.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE GENERATING US FOR OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR WHAT WE'RE COMING UP.
AND I KEEP WE DON'T LET IT FALL TO THE SIDE BECAUSE UNDER CHARTER REVIEW THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT WAS OTHER THAN SPECIAL TAXES GIVING YOU A ONE MONTH VACATION, INCREASING YOUR YOUR YOUR INCOME.
THE ONLY THING THAT WAS REALLY BENEFITING THE RESIDENTS UNDER CITY CHARTER UNDER CHARTER REVIEW WAS THE FACT THE PROPOSAL FOR A DEDICATED ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
THAT'S SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP NOW, BECAUSE ONCE WE STOP SELLING ALL THIS EXCESS PROPERTY, THAT WAS OUR DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE AND IT'S GOING TO DISAPPEAR.
THAT BEING SAID, PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS MY ROAD MAINTENANCE.
BUT LOOK TO THE FUTURE, FOLKS.
REGARDING OUR FUTURE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
YES, THAT CERTAINLY IS HAS BEEN AND REMAINS A PRIORITY FOR THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE TO FUND
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ADDITIONAL REOCCURRING GENERAL FUND REVENUES OR ROAD MAINTENANCE AND NOT BEING RELIANT ON THE THE SALE OF PROPERTIES.AS AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THIS CURRENT YEAR, WE HAVE 750,000, WHICH IS ALSO WHAT WE HAD IN LAST FISCAL YEAR.
BUT THE GOAL IS TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER WITH THIS NEXT CYCLE AND TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT UNTIL WE GET TO A SUSTAINABLE REOCCURRING NUMBER.
MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION CONVEYING CITY OWNED SURPLUS REAL ESTATE LOCATED AT 254 HOLIDAY PARK BOULEVARD, NORTHEAST WITH BUYER THERESA M WHITEMAN WATSON.
SO I CAN MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES, GO AHEAD.
JUST REAL QUICK IN REGARDS TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
WHENEVER IT WAS, I WAS LOOKING WITH THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, I WAS LOOKING AT A ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND POLICY, BUT THAT KIND OF WHEN WE HAD A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP THAT IT KIND OF GOT LOST IN THE WEEDS.
AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SEARCH THROUGH MY EMAILS TO FIND THAT BECAUSE I WAS WORKING WITH THE PREVIOUS FINANCE DIRECTOR ON THAT, YVONNE MCDONALD, AND THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER.
SO I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS WORKING ON, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BILL, THAT WE CAN'T JUST DO IT OFF, YOU KNOW, SURPLUS REAL ESTATE FOREVER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF REAL ESTATE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO FIND A MEANS TO GET THERE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING WE'RE I'VE BEEN SEARCHING BECAUSE THIS IS FROM OVER TWO YEARS AGO, BECAUSE I SAW I SAW THE SAME THING.
BUT GIVE ME ANOTHER WEEK, SIR.
GIVE ME ANOTHER WEEK. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A JOB FOR BRIAN ROBINSON, SIR.
WELL IF YOU CAN DIRECT HIM TO LOOK INTO ROMANIA'S POLICY.
KENNY JOHNSON, LISA MORRELL, YVONNE MCDONALD, IT WAS AMONG US THREE.
YES, SIR. AND SO I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING TO MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[7. Consideration of a purchase offer for City-owned surplus real estate generally located at 1201 Sunswept Road NE from buyer Joan Kundis ($16,000).]
COUNCILMAN FELIX, YOUR MAYOR.LOOKING AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS LISTED FOR 15.
UM. THE BUYER HAD AN OFFER FOR 16.
THEY THEY WENT $1,000 OVER, WHICH APPARENTLY LOOKED LIKE A GOOD OFFER.
BUT DIGGING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY PURCHASED FOUR MORE SIMILAR PIECES OF PROPERTY, I BELIEVE IN OH FIVE. I'M FOR A TOTAL OF A TOTAL OF 118,000.
ME, WE'RE REALLY GIVING AWAY THIS AT A 50% DISCOUNT.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL IS TO DENY THIS OFFER AND.
I. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER? I'D LIKE TO COUNTER 30,000.
AT LEAST GET CLOSE TO AT LEAST WHAT WE PAID FOR IT.
I SEE THIS PROPERTY AS YES, HE MAY NOT BE BUILDABLE, BUT IT WILL.
IT'S DEFINITELY A BIG ADDED VALUE TO THE CURRENT PROPERTY.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE BUYER, ONE, ONE, ONE OFFER, BUT IT'S BETWEEN TWO PROPERTY.
TO ME. IT'S A IT'S A GOOD ADDED VALUE TO ANY OF THE PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING.
ANYBODY THAT PURCHASED IT AT GREAT VALUE TO THEIR EXISTING PROPERTY.
SO AND I HAD ASKED ABOUT MISS SHERMAN IS THERE.
AND THEY BUILD A PIER OR SOME FORM OF DECK OR BOAT LAUNCH AT THAT LOCATION.
MEANING THAT THE PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY.
DO WE KNOW THAT? I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A JOHN BROWN OR A W.C.
MANAGER SPEAK TO THAT AND ALSO TO THE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PRICE.
JOHN BROWN, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
IF THE BUYER WANTED TO DEVELOP A PIER OR A BOAT RAMP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH FTP AND GET APPROVALS AND PERMITTING FOR THAT.
A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A SUBMERGED LANDS LEASE AS WELL.
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SO THAT IS A LENGTHY PROCESS AND A COSTLY PROCESS.THE CITY HAD A SUBMERGED LANDS LEASE WITH PELICAN HARBOR MARINA.
WE PAID, I THINK, $4,500 A YEAR.
SO THERE IS THERE'S A COST OF THAT AS FAR AS THE COUNTEROFFER OF 30,000.
SO I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR NANCY.
BUT IF I'M INCORRECT, PLEASE CORRECT ME, NANCY.
THE THE EXHIBIT A, I THINK IT WAS THE COMPARABLE MARKET ANALYSIS THAT THE CITY SIGNED OFF ON BASED ON THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS STUDY OF COMPARABLE PROPERTIES WAS FOR 15,000.
SO IF WE WERE GOING TO GO BACK AND MAKE A COUNTEROFFER.
WE WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER TO.
BRING BACK THE EXHIBIT A WITH THE SALES ADDENDUM AGREEING TO LIST IT FOR 30,000, RELIST IT FOR AT LEAST I THINK 14 DAYS IS WHAT OUR POLICY SAYS, AND THEN ACCEPT ALL OFFERS AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL SO WE COULD GO BACK TO THE BUYER AND LET THIS INDIVIDUAL KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO DO THAT.
BUT IT WOULD OPEN IT BACK UP AGAIN AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO LIST IT AGAIN FOR ABOUT 14 DAYS. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.
I JUST THINK SIMPLY BASED ON I BELIEVE WE CAN GET MORE FOR IT.
30 MAY BE A LITTLE BIT AGGRESSIVE, BUT.
I THINK IT'S A STARTING POINT ALLOW PEOPLE TO TO TO BID ON IT.
BASED ON THE HISTORY WE PAID ONE 1804 FOR SIMILAR PARCELS.
NOT NOT BUILDABLE TO MEAN JUST GIVING THIS AWAY FOR 16 AND WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE JUST IT'S IT'S WAY TO WAY TOO LOW, I THINK I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES FEEL, BUT I THINK WE CAN.
WE SHOULD AND WE CAN GET MORE FOR IT.
IT WAS IT WAS MARKETED AT $15,000.
CORRECT. BASED ON THE APPRAISAL, BASED ON IT'S ESSENTIALLY A BROKER PRICE OPINION, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S A COMPARABLE MARKET ANALYSIS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL MADE IN THE AREA FOR THAT.
SO THE ONLY CHALLENGE IS, MAYOR, IS THAT I'D SAY FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE A SMALL POOL OF BUYER. SO IT'S REALLY TWO, IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE TO TO INDIVIDUAL.
LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, 30, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT AGGRESSIVE, BUT I FELT GIVEN IT FOR 16, IT'S TOO LOW.
I THINK IT'S. SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS IF THROWS TO AGGRESSIVE COUNCILMAN FELIX? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? THAT WOULDN'T BE AGGRESSIVE.
THAT WOULD THEY THEY COUNTERED OR THEY GAVE AN OFFER ABOVE WHAT WE WERE ASKING.
SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT WHAT DO YOU FEEL WOULD I MEAN, IF IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO TAKE IT BACK AND IF YOU'RE ADMITTING THAT 30 MAY BE A BIT AGGRESSIVE, WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER SOME THAT WOULD BE JUST BASED ON THE FACT, THE FACTOR THAT WHAT WE PAID FOR.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE LOSING MONEY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY BE LOSING MONEY EITHER WAY, BASED ON THE PULL OF BUYER, I'D SAY TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE IT TO GET AT LEAST SEE IF WE CAN GET 20, 24 FOR IT.
OKAY. I THINK COUNCILMAN FOSTER WON IN A WAY.
HOW LONG HAS THIS PROPERTY BEEN ADVERTISED FOR? FOR SALE BY THE CITY? I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THAT TO NANCY, BUT THIS IS ONE OF HER ITEMS SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
PNC BANK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR I APOLOGIZE.
I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP TO SEE IF THERE WAS AN ACTUAL DOG.
SO SHE DOES SHE DOES NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF DOCK OR PIER ON ON THE PROPERTY THAT SHE CURRENTLY OWNS.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SHE WAS CONCERNED SHE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE BROKER WHEN SHE REALIZED IT WAS CITY OF PALM BAY OWNED, AND SHE HAD TWO ELDERLY MOM THERE.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THERE AND THEY FISH.
AND SO ALL THAT SHE WANTED TO DO WAS ENCLOSE IT WITH A FENCE AND JUST BASICALLY EXPAND HER YARD SO THERE WOULD BE MORE VALUE BECAUSE SHE'S ADDING ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.
WE WAITED A FEW WEEKS TO SEE IF THE OTHER LANDOWNER WOULD WAS INTERESTED.
WHEN YOU CLICK ON HIS PROPERTY, IT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING.
SO I'M ASSUMING HE'S LIKE A POLICE OFFICER OR SOME OTHER SECURED.
SO HE MAY PROBABLY HE ALSO HAS A LARGER PARCEL.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT HE'S NOT REALLY INTERESTED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHERE HE'S CURRENTLY LIVING BECAUSE ALL OF THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
SO IT'S CERTAINLY IT'S NOT BUILDABLE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE MORE VALUABLE TO HER
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WHEN SHE SELLS HER WHEN SHE COMBINES THE TWO LOTS AND SELLS IT.HOW LONG HAS THAT LOCKED BEEN? IT WAS LISTED ON MARCH 2ND.
IT'S NOT BUILDABLE AND IT'S AS.
THERE'S NO VALUE TO THE PERSON THAT MADE THE OFFER.
CORRECT. SO SHE DID REACH OUT TO BOTH OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND THIS IS A RESIDENCE THAT BEEN IN PALM BAY FOR A LONG TIME.
OKAY. THANK YOU. NEAR THE COMMON COUNCIL.
I'M. I'M GOOD WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN FELIX FEELS.
IF WE COULD JUST TAKE IT BACK.
WE JUST OPENED IT UP IN MARCH, YOU SAID? YEAH. I'M GOOD WITH COUNCILMAN.
TRYING TO GET US AN ADDITIONAL $8,000.
WHAT ARE YOUR WISHES, COUNCIL? A. AND FELIX, YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? A MOTION TO DENY THE OFFER.
I MEAN, THE YES, THE OFFER OR 16 INSTEAD OF THE COUNTER OFFER WITH A COUNTER OFFER OF 24,000. I THINK TO COUNTEROFFER, WE WOULD HAVE TO OPEN IT UP AGAIN.
BECAUSE THE COUNTEROFFER WHEN WE WERE ASKING FOR 15 IS IS NOT.
THAT JUST DOESN'T. DO YOU FOLLOW ME? BECAUSE WE THEY GAVE US $1,000 MORE THAN WE WERE ASKING FOR.
SO MAYBE JUST TO DENY THAT AND THEN OPEN IT UP AND I.
RIGHT. SO JUST WE ACTUALLY LISTED IT FOR 15.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE HOW IT WOULD.
AS FAR AS COULD WE COUNTER FOR A HIGHER AMOUNT? YES, BUT BEING THAT WE HAD IT LISTED FOR 15,000, IF WE WANT IT TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT PRAGMATICALLY, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO GO THE STRATEGY.
SUGGEST IT, PARTICULARLY IF, AS NANCY STATED, SHE'S JUST LOOKING ESSENTIALLY TO HAVE THIS UNBELIEVABLE PART BE FENCED OFF.
YOU I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAY BE WORTH THAT TYPE OF MUCH MORE TO FENCE IT OFF TO KEEP THE PUBLIC OUT.
YOU MAY BE TRYING TO REACH A GREATER AUDIENCE, MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT IS SEEKING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE MULTIPLE VARIANCES.
BUT IT JUST MAY BE MORE OF AN EFFECTIVE PROCESS IF YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT THAT MUCH MORE FROM THE SALES PRICE TO PUT IT BACK OUT, AS FAR AS I MEAN, THE LISTING PRICE.
CERTAINLY UP TO COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHICH WAY, BUT IT JUST MAY BE MORE EFFICIENT.
YOU LOOK THAT WAY, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO STRONGLY CONSIDER DOING IT THAT WAY.
SO. SO YOUR MOTION, IT DIES FOR NOT HAVING A SECOND.
SO YOU WANT TO JUST MOVE TO DENY THAT OFFER AND THEN OPEN IT UP AGAIN WITH A DIFFERENT LIST. PRICE RIGHT.
MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE OFFER CITY ON SURPLUS REAL ESTATE GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1201 SUN SWEPT ROAD NOW NORTHEAST FROM BUYER JOAN THIS FOR 16,000.
SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY OR BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR.
SO NOW YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO RELIST THAT? THAT WAS. I MAKE A MOTION TO RELEASE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1201 SUN SWEPT ROAD NORTHEAST.
AND ANY OTHER CAVEAT LIKE GIVING THEM.
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AN OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE WITHIN THAT 24,000.WELL, THEY'LL JUST COME BACK OUT AT 16, BUT.
OKAY. MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE LISTING SAID THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE GOT PRIORITY ON THIS PROPERTY. THE LISTING ITSELF ON REALTOR.COM.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS WILL STILL HAVE PRIORITY TO THIS.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION TO RELIST AT A POSSIBLE 24,000.
IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. WITH THE NEIGHBORS FIRST.
I ALREADY GOES TO THE NEIGHBORS.
NEIGHBORS PRIORITY GOES TO THE NEIGHBORS.
I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ANY OPPOSE? NAY PASSES 4 TO 1.
BILL BATTEN. 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET
[10. Consideration of a budget amendment for various unbudgeted expenses within the Growth Management Department ($47,250).]
SOUTHWEST. SO 47,000.LESS YOU. WE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PRICE OF A SPECIAL ELECTION.
RIGHT. THIS IS ONE QUARTER OF THE PRICE WE HAD FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION.
AND THERE WE WERE DEBATING OVER IT.
NOW WE'RE DEBATING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $47,000 TO HOLD A LOCATION OF A MEETING, A SPECIAL MEETING, PLANNING AND ZONING AND A COUNCIL MEETING IN ANOTHER LOCATION.
AND IT'S GOING TO END UP COSTING US ONE QUARTER OF THE PRICE OF WHAT IT COSTS US TO HAVE SPECIAL ELECTION.
47,000. THAT'S ONE QUARTER WHERE THE 200,000 WE SPENT FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
SO I'M BATMAN BEING THE WAY HE THINKS.
I'M SAYING. WE FILLED UP THIS ROOM WITH THE PEOPLE FROM THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WERE GETTING READY TO HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING FOR.
AND IT DOESN'T COST US ANY MORE MONEY THAN WHAT IT COSTS FOR THE EVERYDAY RUNNING FOR THIS, FOR THE OPERATION.
SO WHY SPEND IT? AND THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.
WHILE WE SHOULDN'T EVEN HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION, YOU CONSIDER HOLDING CHANGING AN ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU WOULD SPEND THE MONEY, BUT YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEND $47,000 FOR A SPECIAL MEETING ON ONE ITEM.
IT PUTS A LITTLE BIT OF ANGER AND BUILD BACK AND STOMACH WHEN YOU WHEN YOU START DOING BUSINESS THAT WAY.
THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE REPRESENTING FOR PAYING FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.
THEY'VE DONE THAT FOR THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW.
SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO GO SPEND $47,000 TO HAVE IT IN ANOTHER LOCATION? IT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE UPSET ABOUT SPENDING $200,000 FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION.
THANK. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GO THROUGH.
YES, YES. I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE WHAT THE 47,000 IS COMPRISED OF.
I APOLOGIZE THAT IT WASN'T CLEAR THE $47,000 IS NOT THE COST TO HAVE THOSE SPECIAL MEETINGS OUT AT THE BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE THINGS INCLUDED IN HERE.
I'LL START WITH THE LARGEST ITEM.
THE LARGEST ITEM HERE IS A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL BUDGETING FOR LEGAL ADVERTISEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $35,150.
I WILL ADD BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LIST OF EXPENDITURES THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN SEEING, THERE'S THERE'S AN INCREASE IN APPLICATIONS FROM DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE CITY.
SO THERE'S AN INCREASE IN LEGAL COSTS COMPARABLY.
WE'VE ALSO HAD AN INCREASE IN PEOPLE PAYING APPLICATION FEES AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THAT REVENUE ITEM AS WELL.
WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM HERE.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A REQUEST FOR 1600 DOLLARS FOR THE ADDITIONAL POSTAGE LINE ITEM THAT IS INCREASING BECAUSE OF THE AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE ASKING FOR 3000 FOR LICENSES FOR SOFTWARE CALLED BLUE BEAM.
WE ARE TRYING TO ALONG WITH OUR RECENT TRANSITION TO THE ELECTRONIC PERMITTING PROCESS, WE ARE MOVING TO A SYSTEM WHERE PLANS CAN ACTUALLY BE REVIEWED ELECTRONICALLY AND EVERYTHING CAN BE HANDLED IN A PAPERLESS MANNER FOR COMMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S PART OF THIS REQUEST.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IS A REQUEST RELATED TO THE THE PROPOSAL TO HOLD THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE, LAND USE AND REZONING ITEMS AT BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT'S COMPRISED OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
IT'S COMPRISED OF THE COST FOR THE VIDEO PRODUCTION COMPANY, ONE FOR TWO PRODUCTIONS.
WHO HAS TO BE THERE TO RECORD IT FOR THE RECORD AND ASSIST US WITH LIVESTREAMING? AND THAT IS GOING TO BE $2,275 PER MEETING.
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AND THERE ARE TWO MEETINGS.AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE A COST OF $2,500 FOR THE FACILITY RENTAL FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH BREVARD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THAT COSTS. I RECEIVED WORD EARLIER YESTERDAY ACTUALLY THAT THAT'S DOWN TO, I BELIEVE, 1300 FROM THE 2500.
BUT I HAVE A FOLLOW UP CALL INTO THEM.
SO WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT ENDS UP.
SO I DON'T HAVE A FINAL NUMBER YET ON THAT.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE BULK OF THAT COST IS FOR THE LEGAL ADVERTISEMENTS.
AND JUST ONE LAST THING FOR THE RECORD, THE REASON WE RECOMMENDED MOVING THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR MAJORS OUT TO BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL WAS TWOFOLD.
ONE WAS TO BASICALLY BE CONSIDERATE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM BY HOLDING THIS WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALSO, WE EXPECT A VERY LARGE TURNOUT, AND THE ACOUSTICS IN OUR GYMNASIUMS, WHICH WOULD BE THE ALTERNATE LOCATIONS, ARE NOT THE BEST.
AND SO WE THAT WAS WHY WE RECOMMENDED HOLDING THOSE MEETINGS THERE.
I ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT.
I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A BILL THAT THE FLORIDA HOUSE HAD CONSIDERED, AND I THOUGHT THEY PASSED IT WHERE WE COULD DO MORE OF THAT LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT, EITHER ONLINE OR THROUGH A DIFFERENT SOURCE. IS THAT DID THAT EVER OCCUR? I ACTUALLY WILL LOOK AT MY FRIENDS TO THE RIGHT HERE AND SEE WHO CAN HELP ME.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING TO TRY TO REFRESH ON WHAT THE FINAL OUTCOME WAS OF THE STATE LAW.
I KNOW THEY'RE YES. IN THIS SESSION, THEY'RE CONSIDERING ANOTHER CHANGE TO THE STATE LAW TO ALLOW YOU TO PUT YOUR LEGAL NOTICES ONLINE.
AND I THINK TO DO A ONCE A YEAR, ONCE A YEAR ADVERTISEMENT IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER TO TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IT ONLINE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S GENERALLY HOW IT'S SET UP, BUT I'M NOT CLEAR THAT THAT ACTUALLY PASSED LAST YEAR. I'M NOT SURE I'VE READ SO MANY DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF IT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH VERSION ACTUALLY GOT APPROVED.
AS MISS SHERMAN SAID, THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THERE WHERE YOU HAD TO SEND A MAIL OUT TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ANNUALLY TO NOTIFY THEM THAT ADVERTISERS WILL BE POSTED ONLINE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS STILL INCLUDED IN THERE OR NOT.
I APPRECIATE IT. WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING WORTH NOTING AND LOOKING AT.
RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND REVIEW THAT.
WE COULD SAVE SOME SOME FUNDING THAT WAY.
JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC, THE BULK OF THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL. OC ALSO, BUT I, BUT I DO SEE I'M LOOKING ONLINE AND I SEE THAT IT'S MAKING ITS WAY TO THE GOVERNOR'S.
YES. BUT I'M LOOKING IN THE LAST.
I SEE IT HASN'T BEEN SIGNED YET, SO.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE MORE INFORMATION.
BUT THIS IS JUST ME GOOGLING REAL QUICK.
WE HAVE. WE'VE HAD LIKE I REMEMBER BEFORE I WAS EVEN ON THE DAIS, THE WHOLE STORMWATER CONVERSATION. THERE WAS MORE PEOPLE THAN THERE WAS FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION CONVERSATION.
THEY CAME HERE WHETHER THEY'RE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.
IT TOOK TURNS AND CAME FROM OUTSIDE, INSIDE.
I DEFINITELY DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND A THANK YOU TO DR.
MULLINS FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SCHOOL SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER KATIE CAMPBELL, WHO I REACHED OUT TO PERSONALLY TO, YOU KNOW, SEE IF WE CAN LESSEN THE COST BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET BACK WITH MISS SHERMAN AND THEY'RE STILL IN WORKS OF TRYING TO GET IT EVEN LOWER.
BUT, YOU KNOW. 1200 LESS IS 1200 LESS, BUT I APPRECIATE THEM FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO. SO YEAH, F FREE IS BETTER, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THEM DOING THAT, BUT I KNOW MISS SHERMAN STILL WORKING WITH THEM WITH WITH THIS ITEM.
I CAN REALLY GO EITHER WAY IN REGARDS TO HAVING IT HERE OR AT AT BAYSIDE BECAUSE RESIDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY HAVE MADE THEIR WAY HERE TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME AND MANY YEARS BEFORE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CENTRAL GROUND THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS TO SAY YAY OR NAY OR WHERE THE RED SHIRTS OR WHATEVER COLOR SHIRT THEY WANT TO WEAR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WE'VE ALREADY MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE AT BAYSIDE.
SO YOU CAN'T YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST PULL A BAIT AND SWITCH.
MAYOR SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES OF IT.
BUT YES, I DO THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD, BUT I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.
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I'M GOING TO COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO AND THEN COUNCILMAN FELIX.THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO SHERMAN ADDRESS AND SAME WITH DEPUTY MAYOR ADDRESSED THE VENUE CONCERNS. I HAD THE SAME THOUGHTS IN ONE GYMNASIUM OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND I'M GLAD THAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND MS.. SHERMAN ARE WORKING WITH SCHOOL BOARD STAFF TO REDUCE THAT COST OR POSSIBLY GET IT AT NO COST.
SO THANK YOU BOTH. MY THING HERE WHEN IT CAME TO ADVERTISEMENTS AND FOR POSTAGE.
I WAS WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT PAYS FOR THAT STUFF OR DO WE GET THAT MONEY FROM APPLICATION FEES? UM. YES, SIR. UH, WE DID DISCUSS THIS, AND THE ANSWER SAYS THAT THEY DO PAY FOR THAT.
AND EVERY YEAR WE ACTUALLY WE REVIEW OUR FEES THAT THE APPLICANTS WILL PAY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SITUATIONS, WHETHER IT'S INDEXATION OR REZONING.
AND THOSE FEES ARE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE COSTS TO THE CITY.
SO IT'S IT'S REALLY MORE OF AN IN AND OUT.
THIS IS JUST A FOCUS ON THE EXPENDITURES IN THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN. SO THIS MONEY HAS BEEN COLLECTED ALREADY THROUGH THE USE OF APPLICATION FEES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THIS IS THE EXPENDITURE PORTION THAT'S SHOWN.
I AGREE AND DISAGREE TO SOME EXTENT.
YOU KNOW, SHOWING GRATITUDE, EXPRESSING GRATITUDE TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL OR REPRESENTATIVE OF SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT FIVE AND THREE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO IN PALM BAY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. BUT BUT REGARDLESS, I TAKE ISSUES TO THAT, THAT WE ARE BEING CHARGED.
WE ARE GOVERNMENT BODIES SERVING THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE CITY OF THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD WITH THIS IS OUR TAX DOLLARS THAT BUILDING THOSE SCHOOLS KEEP THIS THESE FACILITIES RUNNING.
WHY ARE WE PAYING WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SAME SERVICE? WE'RE USING THAT FACILITY.
IT'S EMPTY. IT'S THERE FOR THE SERVICE OF OUR KIDS, FOR THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY.
WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO PAY A DIME? THE FLIP SIDE, THOUGH, WHEN THEY USE ALL FACILITY, I MEAN, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD BEFORE WHEN DIFFERENT EVENT.
I SAT ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR MANY YEARS.
AND TO SOME EXTENT, I THINK TO THE EFFORT OF DEPUTY MAYOR, NEWLY ELECTED DEPUTY MAYOR, WAS SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT THAT YOU WERE SEEKING TO WORK OUT, I BELIEVE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. BUT THAT WAS A STRUGGLE AT THE TIME FOR DIRECTOR TO WHY IS JUST NOT FAIR.
THEY HAVE FULL ACCESS TO OUR FACILITIES.
WE WORK WITH THEM, WHETHER IT'S THE POOL OR FIELDS.
BUT WHY IS IT NOT THE OTHER IRAN WE GOVERNMENT? WE ARE NOT IN BUSINESS TO FOR PROFIT.
THOSE FACILITIES ARE THERE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
SHOULD WE HAVE ACCESS NEED ACCESS TO IT TO SERVE.
AND I WOULD DISAGREE AGAIN WITH DEPUTY MAYOR.
WE NEED A LARGER FACILITY FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BECAUSE I WAS ONE IN ATTENDANCE WHEN THE DEVELOPER DID HIS PRESENTATION.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, I WAS IN LINE FOR A SOLID 15 MINUTES JUST TO GET IN THAT FACILITY.
I HAVE, I BELIEVE, A CAPACITY OF 650 PEOPLE WAS EASY, AT LEAST A SOLID 3 TO 400 PEOPLE IN THERE. SO IT'S SHOWING RESPECT.
I WOULD TOTALLY, I SAID, AND WE NEED TO SEEK IT.
HOPEFULLY, MY FELLOW, MY FELLOW COLLEAGUE, ELECTED OFFICIAL SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS OR FRIENDS, WE NEED IT TOGETHER TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS BUILDING TAXPAYER INCOME, THEY BUILD THAT BUILDING.
IN FACT, I WOULD ASK FOR CITY MANAGER TO SEEK FOR INTER AND A LOCAL AGREEMENT.
WITH THE SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD, HOPEFULLY NOT DEMANDING.
I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE I'M DEMANDING, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN IT TOGETHER TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER YOU LIVE ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTY OR YOU'RE IN PALM BAY.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FIND SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WHERE IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO OUR FACILITIES, RATHER THE POOL AND OTHER FACILITY, IT SHOULD BE A MUTUAL THING.
HOPEFULLY I CAN I'D LIKE TO GET SUPPORT FROM MY COLLEAGUE.
SO FOR CITY MANAGER TO NOT ONLY FOR THIS SITUATION MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE SOME SORT OF SOLID WRITTEN AGREEMENT WHERE WE HAVE VICE VERSA.
WE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE FACILITIES.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THIS THERE SHOULD BE SOME GOOD SYNERGY, RIGHT? COUNCILMAN FELIX, SO I'M GOING TO ASK, WHAT DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
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SCHOOL BOARD AND OUR PARKS AND REC SINCE WE HAVE OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR HERE? MA'AM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT HIM TO TO THE LECTERN, BUT I GIVE YOU THAT OPTION, MADAM SHERMAN.WELL, I'LL JUST SAY TO GIVE A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT IT DOES NOT COVER THE SITUATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
CERTAINLY WE COULD LOOK TO EXPAND THAT.
IF YOU LIKE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HISTORICAL ARRANGEMENTS, I CAN BRING UP OUR RECREATION DIRECTOR, FRED POPPIE SPEAKING.
I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT IF WE CHARGE THEM OR THE USES AND SUCH.
SURE. FRED POPP, RECREATION DIRECTOR.
WE'VE HAD AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH THEM AND BASICALLY IT'S FOR THE USE OF RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. AND WITH THAT, THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD CHARGE OR THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD WOULD CHARGE IS HARD COSTS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULDN'T CHARGE RENTAL FACILITIES, BUT IF WE HAD TO BRING SOMEBODY ON OVERTIME OR SPECIAL OUTSIDE OF THEIR NORMAL SCHEDULE, THEN THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. AND SAME THING FOR US.
WE DON'T PAY ANY RENTAL FEES, BUT IF THEY HAD TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE BE THERE, THEN WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT EMPLOYEE FEE.
WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT USING THAT AS A BASIS TO TO BROADEN THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN FELIX IS RIGHT ON THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS THAT THE TAXPAYERS THAT PAY FOR THE SCHOOLS ALSO PAY FOR OURS AND FOR US TO BE CHARGING EACH OTHER ACROSS.
IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
IT'S THE SAME CITIZENS, IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE.
AND SO I THINK EXPANDING ON IT, IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS TALKING TO THE PRINCIPAL OF THE SCHOOL. I'M NOT SURE FOR MANY, MANY DECADES THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT WORKED.
YOUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND WORKING WORKING OUT THOSE LOGISTICAL THINGS AT THEIR PARTICULAR LOCATION.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? YEAH, OF COURSE. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I WAS WORKING ON ONCE I GOT ELECTED. LIKE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS I REACHED OUT TO.
AND SHE WAS NEWLY ELECTED MRS. KATIE CAMPBELL AND GOT WITH MR. POPPI. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THE PLAN.
COUNCILMAN FELIX THINK TO INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S GYMNASIUMS OR AUDITORIUMS. AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE US, MR. POPPI TO TRY TO GET TO WHERE WE GOT.
AND IT WASN'T 18 MONTHS AT LEAST.
YES, YES, SIR. AND AND MOST OF THAT WAS WAS NOT ON OUR END.
WE WE GOT OUR WE GOT OUR STUFF DONE PROBABLY WITHIN 90 DAYS, I WOULD SAY.
AND I, I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE ON IT, BECAUSE I WAS VERY FRUSTRATED WITH IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL PRODUCT WE GOT WAS MORE SO FOR GREEN SPACE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
THAT'S CORRECT. BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, WHICH WHAT I'M GETTING AT COUNCILMAN FELIX I'M GOOD WITH GOING BACK TO IT, BUT MY, MY, MY VISION WAS THE SAME EXACT THING.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE, THIS, YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET SOMETHING INSTEAD OF NOTHING BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE GOT AT THIS TIME.
BUT I'M DEFINITELY GOOD WITH REVISITING BECAUSE YOU ARE 100% CORRECT AND THAT WAS THE GOAL ORIGINALLY. BUT YOU KNOW.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING? YEAH, WELL, I WAS, BUT I JUST JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES LIKE TO CHARGE EACH OTHER AND I AGREE WITH MR. POPPY'S IS STUPID TO DO THAT AND I AGREE WITH MY COUNSEL.
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS PROBLEM IN BAYSIDE IS ALSO A SCHOOL BOARD PROBLEM.
BECAUSE IF YOU BUILD THEM HOUSES ON THE MAJORS.
BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS TO GET SOME SKIN IN THIS GAME, TOO.
WE WE SPENT ALMOST AN HOUR HERE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOLS.
WE DON'T CONTROL THE SCHOOL BOARD.
WE DON'T. SIGN CHECKS FOR SCHOOL BOARDS.
OR SCHOOLS. SO THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS TO GET SOME SKIN IN THIS AND AND THEY NEED TO PARTICIPATE. AND I DON'T I'M JUST TO THE POINT.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PAY THEM NOT ONE DIME.
AND IF WE ARE GOING TO PAY THEM, WE SHOULDN'T SHOULD GIVE THEM A BLANK CHECK.
BECAUSE THIS BECAUSE, AS MR. PHILLIPS SAID, THAT PLACE IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO HOLD THE CROWD.
WE SHOULDN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO STAND OUTSIDE WHEN THE STORM WATER I CAME HERE, I COULDN'T GET IN THE DOOR BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE STORM, WATER CAME UP AND THIS
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BUILDING WAS WRAPPED AROUND WITH PEOPLE.WE SHOULDN'T FORCE OUR CITIZENS IN THE HEAT OR A RAINY DAY.
SO I'M FOR USING BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT WE NEED TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SOME SKIN IN THIS GAME, TOO, BECAUSE NONE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD IS GOING TO BE ON THE HOT SEAT.
THE CITIZEN SHOWS UP IN THEIR RED SHIRT.
I COULD ALMOST PUT MONEY ON IT.
NOT ONE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER WOULD SHOW UP.
OR A COUNTY COMMISSIONER WILL SHOW UP.
BECAUSE WE ALL GOT SKIN IN THE GAME.
IT'S NOT JUST PALM BAY THAT COULD BE INFECTED.
NOT INFECTED, BUT AFFECTED BY.
ABIDE IS THE DECISION WE MAKE.
SO. YOU KNOW, THESE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND GOVERNMENT BODIES NEEDS TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME AND SHOW UP.
I COULD I TAKE A BET ON IT? SO THAT'S MY FEELING ON IT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I THINK, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU HAVE CONSENSUS HERE THAT SCHOOL BOARD SHOULD. SHOULD NOT CHARGE US AT ALL.
SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED, MA'AM? YOU JUST INFORMED THEM THAT WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND IN EXPANDING OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. IF I COULD HAVE CLARIFICATION ON ONE THING, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
ARE YOU OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RENTAL FOR A FACILITY OR YOU ALSO REQUESTING THEIR CONSIDERATION FOR COMPLETE WAIVER OF STAFF COSTS IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THERE, YOU KNOW, TO TO OPEN OPEN IT, LET US IN, WALK IT BACK UP, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. ARE YOU REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THAT? NO, I'M SEEING ONE HAD.
NO. WELL, I THINK FOR ME, I KNOW THAT FRED SAID IN OUR AGREEMENT WE WOULD CHARGE THEM FOR THAT. SO IT WOULD BE FITTING FOR THEM TO RECIPROCATE THAT.
RIGHT. SO I THINK THE AGREEMENT SHOULD BE YES.
WHATEVER THE STAFF COSTS IS WITH THAT'S THAT'S REASONABLE.
OKAY. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO RELAY THAT.
AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE RECEIVED ONE BIT OF CORRESPONDENCE EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH A REDUCTION AND I RECEIVED AN EMAIL ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE THIS MEETING FROM A MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, PUBLIC SCHOOL TEAM, REACHING OUT TO ME ABOUT IT TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT DONE TOMORROW AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND I'LL REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
BUT I WOULD, FOR THIS ITEM JUST ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE IT IN THE ITEM, IF YOU WILL, SO WE CAN CARRY ON WITH HAVING FUNDS IN THE BUDGET.
AND IF WE DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND THEM, CERTAINLY THEY'LL JUST COME BACK TO FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WITH THAT, ABSOLUTELY NO.
FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
YEAH, BUT CERTAINLY I THINK IT'S JUST NOT ONLY WE JUST ESTABLISH THE BENCHMARKS, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AS FAR AS HAVING ACCESS TO FREE EXCEPT FOR COVERING THE STAFF OF US.
SO EXPANDING THAT IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT TO COVER ALL THOSE BASES.
SO COUNCIL WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AND I CAN USE A MOTION MOTION APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT ALLOCATED PROVIDED ABOVE.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
THE ONLY OTHER THING WITH THE LEGAL NOTICES, IT HASN'T BEEN PASSED YET, BUT EVEN IF PASSED, THE EFFECTIVE DATE WILL NOT BE UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, 2023, NOT JULY.
I'M YEAH, I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT IT RIGHT NOW WHEN IT'S USUALLY YEAH.
WHAT I'M SEEING AT LEAST WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE FLORIDA SENATE WEBSITE.
IT SAYS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2023, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN SINGLETON BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[14. Consideration of utilizing Police Impact Fees (32907 Nexus) for expansion projects at the Police Department's main station located at 130 Malabar Road ($115,000).]
OKAY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.I'M KIND OF COMBINING 14 AND 15 TOGETHER BECAUSE I SEE THE RELATED, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE IS ALREADY GOING TO BRING UP 15.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE THE GRANT GO TOWARDS THE FUNDING FOR THE ANALYSIS OF THE WELLNESS CENTER THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE BUILDING PLANNED FOR IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM FOR ITEM NUMBER 14? IF WE COULD JUST COMBINE THOSE TWO.
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I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY HOW WE COULD SAVE SOME OF THAT IMPACT FEE FUND AND USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE IF WE HAVE A GRANT THAT'S GETTING READY TO COME IN AND PAY FOR IT.WHY? WHY CAN'T WE USE THE GRANT FUNDING FOR IT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO USE OUR IMPACT FEE FOR A PLANNING PROCESS? FINE. SAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN USE ELSEWHERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.
I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND IF THE GRANTS, IF THAT WOULD BE AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE UNDER THE GRANT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT BOTH, UM, BOTH ITEMS ARE IMPORTANT TO FUND.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A PLAN TO MAXIMIZE THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT FUNDING WITH THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO I'M MIXING TWO ITEMS, AS MR. BATTEN DID. SO I'M SPEAKING TO THE NEXT ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER 15, IT'S 125,000 GRANT THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT RANKS, CIVILIAN AND SWORN AND FAMILIES.
AND SO STAFF HAS ALREADY CREATED A PLAN TO USE ALL OF THAT MONEY TO TO ENGAGE THOSE WHO HELP WITH COUNSELING AND PEER SUPPORT AND TRAINING AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
NO REDUCING THE EFFORT ON THE IMPACT SIDE IN FAVOR OF DROPPING OFF PART OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED FOR THE APPLICATION ON THE GRANT.
COPY THAT. WE'RE NOT ON ITEM 15, BUT THAT'S PROJECT 129, CORRECT? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO I NEED A MOTION FOR ITEM 14.
GENTLEMEN, MOST OF THEM APPROVE THE APPROPRIATION OF POLICE IMPACT FEES FROM THE 32907 NEXUS ON THE NEXT BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION EXPENDITURES RELATED TO THE PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE INTERIOR OFFICE, REAL TIME CRIME CENTER AND WELLNESS SUITE EXPANSION PROJECTS.
SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? IN? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, I.
AND HE NEEDS. THAT SAYS UNANIMOUSLY WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 15.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I PULLED THIS ITEM IS JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU
[15. Consideration of submitting a grant application to the U.S. Department of Justice for grant funding under the Law Enforcement Mental Health Awareness Act ($175,000).]
KNOW, AGAIN, THE LATE RETIRED CHIEF ROGERS IS NAMED AFTER HIM PROJECT 129.SORRY. YEAH, THAT'S SO THAT'S HIS BADGE NUMBER.
AND AT 530 WHEN, YOU KNOW, CHIEF MARIO ANGELO WAS.
SWORN IN. THIS IS ONE OF THE HE SAID THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRIORITY FOR HIM AND THIS IS WHAT LEADERSHIP LOOKS. LOOKS LIKE IS ONE OF HIS FIRST THINGS AS POLICE CHIEF.
AND THIS THIS GOES TO, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY CHIEF, EVERYBODY TO OUR CITY STAFF, EVERYBODY AS THEY'RE FIRST ACTING, YOU KNOW, FIRST THING ACTING AS CHIEF.
I CAN'T EVEN SPEAK BECAUSE CHIEF ROGERS WAS NEAR AND DEAR TO ALL OF US AND HIS MEMORY IS GOING TO LIVE ON THROUGH THIS, TO HIS FAMILY, TO OTHERS.
AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE PROTECT.
YOU KNOW, SO MANY MORE LIVES, FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING WITH THIS.
SO THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THIS, HAVE A HANDWRITTEN LETTER FROM THE MAYOR OR ANYTHING.
DEPUTY MAYOR, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL, ALONG WITH THIS, GIVE THE AUTHORITY FOR YOU TO SIGN THE LETTER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR THIS GRANT APPLICATION AND REQUESTING THAT FROM OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE THAT TO ENSUE.
MEANING WHEN I SAY A LOCAL DELEGATION REGARDING THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, I'M TALKING ABOUT SENATOR RICK SCOTT, SENATOR MARCO RUBIO AND CONGRESSMAN BILL POSEY.
SO THAT. THERE IS THAT THAT LINE.
I UNDERSTAND, SIR. ALONG WITH THAT, I WOULD.
AND MAYBE WE COULD PUT PROJECT 129 OUT THERE FULL BLAST IN HONOR OF CHIEF ROGERS.
YES, SIR. I AGREE WITH THAT END.
WE DO HAVE A FEDERAL STATE LAW, FEDERAL LOBBYIST AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE THAT WE CAN USE FOR THIS, TOO.
MAYOR. SO THANK. I'VE GOT EMOTION.
MOST SORRY, MOST IMPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS ACT GRANT APPLICATION. SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
OTHER DISCUSSION GENTLEMEN ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[18. Consideration of a salary increase (24.6%) for the Deputy City Manager.]
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COMPLETED? OH, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE SALARY SURVEY.SALARY SURVEY. SO WE WERE STARTED RECEIVING REPORTS FROM THE CONSULTANT LAST FRIDAY.
WE GOT MORE ON MONDAY AND WE HAVE A CONFERENCE CALL WITH THEM TOMORROW TO GO THROUGH WHAT THEY'VE GIVEN TO US.
IF WE HAVE A COMPLETE SET OF EVERYTHING WE NEED AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL DATA REQUESTS FROM THEM, THEN WE WILL.
I WOULD SAY WE'D HAVE A FINAL PRODUCT AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, BUT I WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL AFTER WE'VE HAD THAT BRIEFING ON IT TOMORROW.
SO, MADAM, DID YOU WANT TO PRESENT THIS ITEM NUMBER 18? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU, SIR.
SO THIS IS A REQUEST THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO ALL COUNSEL ABOUT, AND IT IS RELATED TO A REQUEST FOR PAY INCREASE FOR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JOHN BROWN.
SHE HAS BEEN SERVING THIS POSITION FOR A YEAR, OVER A YEAR NOW AND HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR OVERSIGHT OF MANY FACETS OF OUR GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS.
SHE OVERSEES THE DEPARTMENTS OF I.T., UTILITIES, BUILDING, COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
SHE ALSO HAS OVERSIGHT FOR ALL OF OUR GRANTS AND STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYIST FUNCTIONS, AS WELL AS OUR AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATIONS FUNCTIONS.
BUT THAT DOESN'T BEGIN TO DESCRIBE THE LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT SHE HAS IN DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS AND THE NUMBER OF THINGS SHE DOES TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS RUNNING EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY.
SO SHE HAS MY FULL SUPPORT IN THIS REQUEST.
HOWEVER, AS AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN SOME OF THE BRIEFINGS, I DID SEND YOU ALL AN EMAIL LATER THIS AFTERNOON WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL.
MY PREFERENCE IS THAT WE PROVIDE FULL SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST AS IT'S IN THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM. BUT I DID GIVE THAT TO YOU FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I ALSO HAVE AS PART OF PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, PART OF THE PACKAGE, SHE SENDS YOU AN EMAIL AND SHE SHE WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY REQUEST OUR CONSIDERATION OF A SALARY INCREASE OF 1 TO 145.
AND, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY 13% RAISED OR AN INCREASE OF $16,678.
I DO KNOW THAT HER INVALUABLE SERVICE IS NOTEWORTHY.
I ALSO KNOW SHE RECENTLY RECEIVED HER MASTER'S DEGREE, WHICH WE'RE QUITE PROUD OF.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT SHE WAS A FINALIST.
THE CITY MANAGER'S SEARCH FOR INDIAN HARBOR BEACH.
I THINK SHE'S A VALUABLE ASSET TO OUR CITY.
I WOULD BE FINE WITH THE ONE FOR 13%.
145. I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE.
OH, THAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE BUZZARDS OR LIGHTS YET.
SO LET ME LET ME GET COUNCILWOMAN LITTLE BIRD.
BUT WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THIS OUT TO ME, JOAN, I THINK YOU DO DO A GREAT JOB, LIKE I SAID, BUT I DO HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYER.
I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU ALL RAISES.
SO WITH THE 24.6%, I WAS RELUCTANT.
BUT AS THE MAYOR JUST STATED HERE WITH 13%, I CAN PROBABLY JUSTIFY THAT WITH INFLATION AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
I DID NOTICE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AT IT WITH THE CITY VERY LONG, BUT THE TIME YOU HAVE HAD WITH OUR CITY, YOU'VE DONE PHENOMENAL WORK AND THAT'S WORKING WITH YOU ON BCR BOARD AND NOW UP TODAY. SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT FOR A.
FOR THE AMENDED AMOUNT OF 13%, I BELIEVE, MR. MAYOR SAID. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.
SO MUCH, MAYOR. MY FIRST CONCERN WITH THAT.
AND LET ME SAY LET ME START TO SAY THAT.
IT'S MY COMMENT DOES NOT REFLECT HER ABILITY OR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER'S ABILITY OR PERFORMANCE, NOR QUESTIONED HER HER JOB AT ALL.
MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL, HER FIRST ANNUAL EVALUATION OF PERFORMANCE EVALUATION WAS SUPERIOR. I TRULY BELIEVE SHE PROBABLY WELL DESERVED AND SHE EARNED IT.
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I HAVE A FEW THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT MORE OF A BIGGER PICTURE.SO WE HAVE A SALARY STUDY THAT'S NOT COMPLETED YET, NUMBER ONE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO WAIT.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THEN GO FROM THAT NUMBER ONE.
JOHN BROWN. JOHN THE CITY, I BELIEVE, 2019.
CERTAINLY SHE SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB MOVING A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
SO THE TIME THE LEFT OF TIME IN HER POSITION AS WELL.
I'M LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE.
WHY? HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT? OTHERS THAT MAY BE AT UPPER LEVEL OR UPPER MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR POSITION.
HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT SEEING THAT THAT BEING SERVING THE CITY AND PROBABLY BEEN DOING EQUALLY A GREAT JOB.
SO FOR THESE THREE REASONS, I COULDN'T SUPPORT THE 24 NOR THE 13.
I'D SAY WE CAN REVISIT THAT WHEN THE CELERY STUDY IS COMPLETED.
I'LL GIVE US A GOOD BASIS TO MAKE A FAIR OF MORE OF A FAIR JUDGMENT OF WHAT I'M NOT SAYING BY ANY MEANS. SHE'S NOT DESERVING OF WHAT SHE'S ASKING, WHAT'S BEING ASKED TONIGHT? BUT I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT.
WE SHOULD PAUSE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT LATER TIME.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
24%. AND I ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT THE STUDY AND THE WHAT RANGE.
IS THIS? BUT THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND WE GO TO 13% OR 24%.
AND. I THINK SHE'S AN OUTSTANDING PERSON.
I THINK SHE DOES A GREAT JOB AND I'M ALL FOR GIVING HER A RAISE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
I LIKE TO GET A RANGE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE.
KILLING. OUR SALARIES IS KILLING.
OUR ECONOMY IS CLIMBING FAST AND.
I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT HER FAULT THAT INFLATION HIT US AT THIS TIME.
WHEN WE GET THAT STUDY, WE KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY FALLS AND 145 MIGHT BE TOO LOW.
IT MIGHT BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RANGE.
AND SHE DEFINITELY DON'T DESERVE TO BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RANGE.
TRUST ME, IT'S GOING TO COST MORE MONEY TO REPLACE HER.
IT'S GOING TO COST MORE MONEY TO GET SOMEBODY IN TO REPLACE HER.
SO I THINK WE TO ME, BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE, WE WANT TO DO RIGHT BY OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
BUT I THINK THE WAY TO DO RIGHT IS GET THAT STUDY.
THE CITY MANAGER COULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
WHAT RANGE SHE SHOULD FALL IN.
THAT RANGE MIGHT BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WHAT WE GOT ON THE TABLE.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
IT MIGHT BE LOW. IT MIGHT BE BELOW THAT.
I MEAN, SHE FALLS IN THE MIDDLE.
OKAY. SO IN COCO'S A MUCH SMALLER CITY.
SO I WANT TO GET IT RIGHT AND I WANT TO DO RIGHT BY HER, SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO DO IS TO BRING IT BACK ONCE WE GET THE STUDY.
BRING IT BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND LET'S REVISIT THIS.
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THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.WHEN IT WAS CHRIS LITTLE PREVIOUSLY IN REGARDS TO SALARY BECAUSE I WANTED THE SALARY STUDY AND FOR THIS.
AND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, IF IF THE ITEM WASN'T PULLED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE ONE SIXTIES. SO IF WE HAD VOTED ON IT ON CONSENT AGENDA, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 160.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ANY DIALOG.
SO I DEFINITELY WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD DIALOG EITHER WAY.
SO MY QUESTION IS FOR CITY MANAGER.
ONCE WE GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION WITH THE SALARY STUDY, HOW QUICKLY CAN WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO VOTE ON ITEMS LIKE THIS AND WITH THE REST OF STAFF? IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THE HOW QUICKLY WE CAN COME BACK.
QUESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED IN THE SALARY STUDY AND THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THINGS WE'RE PLANNING FOR GLOBALLY THAT ARE TIED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, NEGOTIATIONS WITH UNION CONTRACTS.
SO SOME OF THAT IS IT'S ON A PATH TO GET DONE BEFORE OCTOBER ONE, BUT NOT A PATH I COULD GIVE YOU TODAY AT THIS MOMENT.
HOWEVER, JUST WHILE I HAVE A MOMENT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE REQUEST HERE AND I RESPECT WHERE COUNSEL'S OUT ON THE SALARY STUDY, BUT THE REQUEST HERE IS REFLECTIVE OF THE DESIRE TO RETAIN AND REWARD THE CORE LEADERSHIP TEAM, THE SERVING THE CITY.
AND SO FOR ME, THE TIMING ON THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TO CONSIDER THIS IN THE IN THE SHORT TERM VERSUS WAITING.
AND WHILE I RESPECT THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NUMBER AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU CAN CALL IT, BROWN HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY.
I LOOK AT IT FROM A MORE OF A DIFFERENT STANDPOINT.
SO MY MY PERSPECTIVE IS ACTUALLY AS I'M LEADING THE CITY AND I'M LEADING A TEAM OF AMAZING PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING INCREDIBLE THINGS EVERY DAY.
IT IS MY GOAL TO PAY THEM WHAT THEY'RE WORTH.
AND SO WE'VE ALREADY MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN DIRECTOR LEVEL SALARY.
IN DIFFERENT THEY'VE BEEN INDIVIDUAL, INCREMENTAL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OCCURRING OVER THE PAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.
AND THOSE THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT GOOD LEADERSHIP CREATES GOOD MORALE AND CREATES A BETTER OPERATING AND WORKING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR TEAM.
AND SO. PART OF WHY I BELIEVE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO DO NOW IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE WHEN WE BROUGHT HER WHEN I HIRED MISS BROWN TO SERVE IN THIS POSITION.
SHE WAS ALREADY STEPPING INTO A ROLE LIKE MANY, MANY STAFF MEMBERS HAVE IN RECENT YEARS, THAT HAD A PAY RANGE THAT HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED FOR OVER TEN YEARS.
SO THE BEST WE COULD DO WAS GET REALLY TO THE TOP OF THE PAY RANGE.
AND THAT EVEN REALLY WASN'T COMPLETELY COMMENSURATE WITH WHERE A DEPUTY SHOULD BE.
BUT SHE WAS WILLING TO DO THAT FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND GIVEN HER SUPERIOR EVALUATION AND THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCTIVITY SHE'S BROUGHT TO THE CITY FOR THIS PAST YEAR, I HAD NO QUALMS ABOUT BRINGING THIS NOW, SO MY REQUEST TO COUNCIL IS FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND I DO KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER REQUESTED THE RANGE AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OUR PAY SCALES ARE NOT ARE SO OLD.
THERE ARE PAY RANGES THAT DON'T EVEN EXIST.
AND SO FOR ME, THIS RANGE FOR HER IS A.
SO ANYWAY, I GUESS TO SUMMARIZE, THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION TO DO SOMETHING NOW EVEN IF COUNCIL IS NOT COMFORTABLE AT THAT ORIGINAL AMOUNT.
SEEN THE LETTER TODAY THAT MISS BROWN SHE SHE REQUESTED 145 AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS FINE WITH I'M FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE MORALE AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN BECAUSE I KNOW AND WE WE TALKED WE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST WALKING THROUGH CITY HALL.
I KNOW THE MAYOR VISITS REGULARLY JUST TO ENGAGE WITH EVERYONE.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE I DON'T WANT IT APPEARANCE TO LOOK LIKE WE'RE P SMELLING HERE P SMELLING THERE.
AND BECAUSE YES THE LEADERSHIP THE LADY LEADERSHIP IS GREAT ACROSS THE BOARD.
BUT THE PERCEPTION WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOUR LOWER LEVEL, YOU'RE LOOKING LIKE, WELL, WHEN IS IT MY TURN? SO THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN ON THIS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF JUST WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE FILL THOSE VACANCIES AND TAKE CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES WE HAVE, INCLUDING MRS. BROWN. AND AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHY LIE WITH IT.
SO THE 145 I'M BEHIND IS JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I ASK YOU EVERY BRIEFING, WHERE ARE WE WITH
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THE SALARY STUDY? WHERE ARE WE WITH THE SALARY STUDY? WHERE ARE WE AT THE SALARY STUDY? AND I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE I KNOW I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE BECAUSE IT'S BIG.IT'S BIG. WE'RE COMPETING AND GET WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST PEOPLE AND PRIVATE COMPANIES WHERE YOU CAN JUST WORK FROM HOME.
YOU CAN JUST WORK FROM HOME AND JUST RELAX.
WE KNOW THAT. SO I JUST WANT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SECURE MRS. BROWN, SECURE OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS, SECURE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERYONE. BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, I WANT US TO BE COHESIVE IN THE CITY AND NOT LOOKING AT EACH OTHER LIKE, WHEN IS IT MY CHANCE? SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY CONCERN LIES.
MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, GO AHEAD.
YEAH. I TRULY I APPRECIATE YOUR SENTIMENTS.
LISTEN, I GOT TO I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES, RIGHT? I BELIEVE WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE MISS JOAN COLLINS AROUND THE CALIBER OF PROFESSIONALISM THAT SHE SHE BRINGS TO THE TEAM.
NOT ONLY THE CALIBER, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT SHE GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY, REGARDLESS OF OF WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT A RESUME, SHE'S SHE'S LITERALLY KNEE DEEP IN ECONOMICS AND SHE STEPS IN AS A PLANNER WHEN WE ARE GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
WE LOST TWO PLANNERS AND WHO HAS FILLED IN THAT GAP AND CONTINUED AS A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. SO I UNDERSTAND THE 26% WAS LIKE WAY BEYOND.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VACANCIES AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A HIGH CALIBER EMPLOYEE THAT MAY CHOOSE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO TO RECTIFY A SALARY DEFICIENCY. AND, YES, IT WOULD BE ONE AT A TIME.
BUT THIS IS WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY.
I'M CONSTANTLY ASKING IN OUR BRIEFINGS OR EVEN IN BETWEEN BRIEFINGS, I'LL EVEN CALL AND SAY, IS THE STUDY READY? RIGHT. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT'S BEFORE US.
AND THE WAY SHE JUST PLACED AND FORMALLY REQUESTED IT IN A LETTER TO TO THE CITY MANAGER, I'M WHOLEHEARTEDLY ON BOARD WITH PROVIDING A 13% INCREASE IN PAY FOR MS..
BROWN. I KNOW THE VALUE AND QUITE IN TOTAL TRANSPARENCY WHAT SHE PROVIDES IN PROFESSIONALISM AND SERVICE AND EXPERTIZE.
WE THERE'S SO MANY INTANGIBLES THAT WE CAN'T EVEN PUT A PRICE ON.
SO I'M WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN SUPPORT OF PROVIDING THAT I WOULD BE A YAY VOTE ON THIS.
AND AGAIN, WE DO NEED TO RECTIFY THE OTHER THE OTHER SALARIES AS WELL AS CITYWIDE.
AND WE KNOW THAT THAT STUDY JUST DIDN'T COME AT THIS TIME AND TO WAIT ON SOMETHING.
I THINK WE'RE DOING AN INJUSTICE IN PARTICULAR.
IN PARTICULAR, GENTLEMEN, WE WE ALMOST WE POTENTIALLY LOST A HIGH CALIBER EMPLOYEE TO THE CITY OF INDIAN HARBOR BEACH.
THAT HIGH CALIBER OF EMPLOYEE AND.
WE MAY HAVE HAD TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL SALARY TO TRY AND REPLACE THAT HIGH CALIBER EMPLOYEE. SO I'M WHOLEHEARTEDLY ON BOARD.
I'M GOOD WITH THE 13% DEPUTY MAYOR.
AND I DID SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE BRIEFINGS WITH.
WITH. SUZANNE SHERMAN AND ACTUALLY WITH MS..
JOHN BROWN. BUT THIS THIS IS THIS SEEMS LIKE A FINE, SWEET SPOT, IF YOU WILL.
YOU'RE WHICH ONE WHO CALLED OUT FIRST, BUT I.
THE CITY. CITY MANAGER MENTIONED MY NAME.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I WAS SAYING, AND I WANT TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR, THOUGH.
IF THE STUDY COMES BACK, SHE SHOULD BE MUCH HIGHER.
DO WE GIVE HER ANOTHER RAISE? THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN.
THE STUDY COMES BACK AND SAYS THAT'S THE LOW RANGE OF ONE FIFTIES, THE LOW RANGE IT SHOULD BE FROM 150 TO 1 190.
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AND NOW SHE'S OUT OF THAT RANGE.YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I WILL VOTE FOR A RAISE, BUT I WANT TO DO IT PROPERLY.
AND I WANT TO GIVE HER A FAIR OPPORTUNITY.
THE ONE 60 COULD BE THE PERFECT SALARY FOR HER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE HAVE THAT THAT THAT RANGE.
AND ONCE WE HAVE A RANGE WHAT HER SALARY SHOULD BE AT THAT WE SHOULD PROPERLY GIVE HER HER JUST TO AND PROMOTE HER TO WHAT THE CITY MANAGER FEELS THAT SHE SHOULD BE IN THE MID RANGE. LIKE THE CITY MANAGER TOPPED OUT AT THE RANGE SHE WAS BECAUSE.
THE SALARY RANGE WAS OLD, WAS OVER TEN YEARS OLD.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, JUST GIVING HER A NUMBER.
THAT'S NOT A WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A RANGE TO PROPERLY PLACE HER.
AND I THINK IT DO A DISSERVICE TO HER AND US AND OTHER PEOPLE HOW WE GO ABOUT PROMOTING PEOPLE. SO I KNOW I JUST WANT TO WAIT.
I WANT TO GIVE HER A PROMOTION.
SHE SHE WORKED HARD TO GET IT.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND SAY, MISS BROWN, YEAH, WE GAVE YOU 145, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN 155 AND NOW YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE THAT THE STUDY SHOWED US.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU COULD ALWAYS ADJUST GOING UP, BUT COUNCILMAN.
SO. SO I MADE IT CLEAR THE STUDY IS A BIG ISSUE TO ME.
BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE, SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED, IS THAT.
THE IMPACT, THE NEGATIVE IMPACT, WHERE WE MAY WANT TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO RETAIN MS..
LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING I SAID IS THAT I THINK SHE'S A GREAT, GREAT ASSET FOR US.
THE IMPACT THAT MAY HAVE DOWNWARD COULD BE GREAT.
SO I WANT THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT.
IT'S BEEN CLEAR WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE EVERYBODY FORWARD.
EVEN ONCE WE HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE STUDY.
AND LET'S TELL THE NEXT COUPLE OF DIRECTORS.
OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT BRING YOU UP.
RIGHT AWAY. LET'S WAIT FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.
THIS IS NOT HOW WE SHOULD CONDUCT BUSINESS.
LET'S BE FIRM, FAIR AND TREAT.
TREAT EVERYBODY ON EVEN A LANDFILL.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX OR ALBERTO, DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENT? JUST MY LAST COMMENT IS THIS WOULD BE FROM A SHERMAN.
I DID SEE IT IN JOAN'S LETTER HERE.
LAST PARAGRAPH CONSIDERATION OF.
ARE REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF MY CURRENT PAY GRADE OF AP LIST.
WILL THIS INCREASE SATISFY THAT? UM, ACTUALLY, THE WAY I STRUCTURED THE AGENDA MEMO IN THE MOTION, I REQUESTED YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE SALARY, WHATEVER YOU WERE TO SETTLE ON, BUT ALSO REQUESTED YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO HAVE THE H.R.
ESSENTIALLY BASED ON A CURRENT STRUCTURE, THERE'S ABOUT 3% BETWEEN EACH RANGE.
SO THEY WOULD JUST DO THE CALCULATION TO MOVE TO CREATE A RANGE BECAUSE WE HAVE.
THEY'RE. THEY'RE ALPHABETICAL, LITTERED.
SO I'M I'M AT A LETTER B, AND BELOW THAT THERE'S A BIG GAP BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO CREATE THE RANGE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS SALARY INCREASE.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT IT BACK. I THINK MISS BROWN IS KIND OF STUCK IN THAT SITUATION, LIKE IN GOVERNMENT.
FOR GOVERNMENT WORK, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN BE AT LEAST 11 STEP TEN.
AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE THAT STEP TEN, YOU'RE TAPPED OUT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WHERE MISS BROWN WAS AT THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONCERN OR ADDRESS THIS CONCERN.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. OR THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
IF THE SALARY STUDY COMES BACK, WE COULD ALWAYS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MS..
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BROWN. IS THAT CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGY WE'VE BEEN UNDER FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF IS REALLY ONE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, OF INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS.SO WE HAVE ADJUSTED SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES.
BUILDING DEPARTMENT COMES TO MIND AS A MORE RECENT EXAMPLE, WHERE WE'VE ADJUSTED THOSE PAY RANGES TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE.
WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY, I THINK, MAKE GREAT STRIDES IN THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THIS PAST YEAR TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE THIS YEAR.
AND THAT WAS ALL OUTSIDE OF THE SALARY STUDY BEING DONE THIS YEAR.
I EXPECT TO DO THE SAME WITH NGIGE WHITE AND BLUE.
AND IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING IN THE BUDGET TO DO MULTIPLE THINGS THIS YEAR AND START WORKING ON GENERAL EMPLOYEES AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT EITHER WAY, I'VE EXPECTED THAT THE RESULTS OF THE SALARY STUDY WOULD ALSO BE A PHASED APPROACH SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HOW OUR BUDGET IS AND THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE RECEIVE EACH YEAR. I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S IT'S INCREMENTAL, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BASICALLY MOVE EVERYBODY UP TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE HOLISTICALLY.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND THE SALARY BY COMPARISON IN IN THE IN THE MEMO OF CONSIDERATION MOST OF THE. THEY ARE LESSEN OUR POPULATION.
AND IT JUST SHOWS, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITHIN THAT RANGE, THAT 144 WOULD OR WHAT 145 WOULD WOULD BE AN IDEAL.
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO NOT ONLY RETAIN, BUT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO.
DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD THAT I SEE? OKAY. SO LET'S LET'S CALL THIS FAITH.
AND WHY? NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABURY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH A COMMENT MADE EARLIER.
AND ACTUALLY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT A PRICE ON.
WOMEN. IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND IN ANY JOB ANYWHERE, A ALMOST 25% RAISE IS COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF.
AND GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE THE EXCEPTION TO THAT.
ESPECIALLY TRYING TO DO SO BEFORE THE SALARY STUDY COMES BACK IS.
STRONG WORDS, SPOKEN ABOUT 13%.
WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A 26%.
13%. FEELS MUCH MORE REASONABLE BECAUSE IT IS COMPARED TO 24 OR 25%, BUT IT IS AGAIN STILL PRETTY MUCH UNHEARD OF UNLESS THERE'S A PROMOTION INVOLVED PERHAPS, OR IF, SAY, A SALARY STUDY THAT WAS WELL OVERDUE CAME BACK AND SAID, OH, OH MY, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING A LOT MORE.
THAT WOULD BE. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING.
AND I BELIEVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A 13% RAISE, WHICH, AGAIN, IF YOU IGNORE THE 25, IT'S STILL A LOT.
IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT BEFORE GETTING THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY THAT WE ARE SEEKING OUT SPECIFICALLY TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE PAYING VARIOUS EMPLOYEES, THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT WOULD BE AN IRRESPONSIBLE USE OF CITY FUNDS BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE IS A PRICE ON IT EXCEPT THAT PRICE IS NOT PAID BY THOSE ON THE DIAS.
IT IS A PRICE PAID BY RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY AS A WHOLE, AND THAT CAN'T BE FORGOTTEN.
THERE IS A PRICE AND THEY PAY IT.
HAVE CONCERN WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
REQUEST A PAY INCREASE AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO UPDATE THE PAY GRADE FOR THE POSITION AS APPROPRIATE. THAT FEELS VAGUE AND I QUESTION THE OR I HAVE QUESTIONED OR QUESTIONS FOR THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.
IS THAT A SITUATION WHERE IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT NOT COME BEFORE COUNCIL AGAIN IN ANY GIVEN SITUATION BECAUSE THAT POWER WOULD NO LONGER RESIDE WITH THE COUNCIL FOR THAT KIND OF A DECISION.
IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE, THERE'S NOT MUCH DETAIL IN THE PHRASING.
SO JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT POINT AND I HOPE.
IT IS A GIVEN THAT THESE COMMENTS HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON HER TO BE CITY MANAGER FROM EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD FROM EVERYONE.
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SHE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.THE CLASSIFICATION, I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THAT ALREADY, BUT, SIR, I'LL ADD A LITTLE MORE CLARITY TO THAT. SO THE WE'VE DONE A RECENT EXAMPLE OF WHEN WE'VE DONE THIS IS WHEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE FINAL DETAILS ON THE POLICE UNION CONTRACTS.
AND WE INCLUDED IN THAT REQUEST IN THAT MEMO, AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE UPPER LEVEL LEADERSHIP SALARIES. SO THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND THE COMMANDER POSITIONS SO THAT WE WOULD NOT BE IN A COMPRESSION SITUATION AGAIN.
SO WE ESSENTIALLY REQUESTED TO MOVE THEM UP.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS NOT AN EXISTING PAY RANGE FOR THEIR POSITIONS, SO HR HAD TO CREATE THAT. SO ADMINISTRATIVELY IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
IT DOESN'T. YOU COUNCIL WOULD BE APPROVING THE SALARY AMOUNT, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED THEN AND WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED NOW.
AND STAFF WOULD CREATE THE RANGE THAT THAT WOULD FALL INTO TO AVOID A SITUATION WHERE THE PERSON IS IS MAXED OUT IN THE EXISTING RANGE AND THEREFORE CAN'T RECEIVE THE PAY INCREASE THE WAY IT'S INTENDED.
AND SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
BUT ULTIMATELY, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE BRING BACK OUR QUARTERLY POSITION CONTROL UPDATE? THE NEW RANGE WILL BE REFLECTED IN THERE.
SO COUNCIL WOULD SEE THAT AGAIN AT THAT TIME.
ALL RIGHT. KRISTIN, I'M SORRY.
MY NAME IS KRISTIN LARTEY AND I.
I WAS AND I'M FROM COCOA, SO I WANT TO SAY THAT AND I LEARNED THAT I CAN SPEAK HERE AND I HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS.
I WAS KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD WEIGH IN.
BUT WHEN THE GENTLEMAN HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE COCOA SALARY, THE PAY SCALE, I AM SOMEONE WHO HAS GOTTEN VERY INTO LOCAL, LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACTION AND STUDYING SOME OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE COCOA PIECE AS FAR AS THE PAY RANGE, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME KIND OF BACK AND FORTH AROUND THAT.
AND THEN I'VE ALSO BEEN TAKING IN THE CONVERSATION AS A WHOLE.
IT'S SUCH AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION AND I WANT TO FIRST COMMEND THE TRANSPARENCY.
THIS IS A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY.
I THIS IS I'M THIS IS MY FOURTH THIS WEEK.
SO I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THIS IS REALLY AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THIS.
I'M NOT USED TO THIS LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY, AND I THINK IT'S NOT TO SAY IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, JUST THAT IT'S NEW FOR ME TO SEE THIS DISCUSSION.
NOW, ON THE THE PAY SCALE, I WANT TO SAY THAT COCOA RECENTLY DID A LIFT TO THEIR PAY SCALE AS OF THE LAST BUDGET YEAR.
AND BECAUSE I GOT INTO WE HAD A MILLAGE INCREASE LAST YEAR AND IT INSPIRED ME TO GREATER INTEREST IN MY GOVERNMENT.
SO I LEARNED MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN COCOA.
AND SO THE THE COCOA CITY MANAGER PROPOSED TO CITY.
WELL, IT WAS INCLUDED IN A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, BUT THE PAY SCALE WAS IT WAS A 26% LIFT OF THE MINIMUM AND THE MAXIMUM FOR ALL 19 OF OUR PAY GRADES.
SO JUST IN CASE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, TO HAVE SOME KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHEN OURS WERE UPDATED, IT SHOULD GIVE YOU SOME AMOUNT OF MIGHT GIVE YOU SOME AMOUNT OF CONFIDENCE ABOUT WHERE WHERE THAT WHERE THIS LIES.
AND THEN TAKING IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AS A WHOLE, IT JUST IT IT I TEND TO LEAN TOWARDS THE THE CITY MANAGER.
I APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE THERE.
I THINK SHE'S REALLY ADDING A LOT.
AND BY THE WAY, ALL OF YOU ARE ADDING A LOT TO THIS DISCUSSION.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE TAKING A LOT OF CARE AND DELIBERATION TO CONSIDER BOTH THE VALUABLE EMPLOYEE AND THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
SO I REALLY COMMEND YOU ON THAT.
AND IN TAKING THAT ALL IN THAT THAT 13% DOES SEEM LIKE A OF THE COMPROMISE, YOU KNOW, OF OF WHERE YOU'RE AT AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S POSSIBILITY OF MAKING ADJUSTMENTS IN THE FUTURE. BUT I'M A CAREFUL TAXPAYER, SO I'M I'M DILIGENT BECAUSE OF A MILLAGE INCREASE, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T SAY THIS LIGHTLY, BUT TAKING ALL THESE FACTORS INTO CONSIDERATION, THAT JUST DOESN'T SOUND OFF TO ME.
AND SO I JUST KIND OF GOT INSPIRED IN HEARING ALL THIS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT DISCUSSION, TO TO SAY THAT RATHER THAN HEDGING AND WEIGHTING IN THE SALARIES AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, BUT YOU DO HAVE A REALLY VALUABLE EMPLOYEE AND IT'S A ONE TIME DECISION.
AND ALL YOUR OTHER EMPLOYEES, EMPLOYEES MIGHT NOT BE IN LINE, YOU KNOW, AS QUICKLY AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE. SO I WANTED TO SPEAK UP AND SUPPORT THAT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED PAY INCREASE OF 13% OR AN INCREASE OF $16,678.
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SECOND THAT. AND I DO SO RELUCTANTLY, JUST LIKE I DID THE FIRST TWO TIMES.MAYOR. BUT I'M REALLY I'M REALLY LOOKING AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
WE WERE EARLIER IN DISCUSSION, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE, WHICH WE GOT THEM GOOD CONTRACTS, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST THEM.
WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND I FIRSTHAND WHEN I'M DRIVING OR I SEE PEOPLE WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I SAY, HI, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
AND THEN SOMETIMES IN DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WE FILLED OUT THE SURVEY.
WHEN IS IT GOING TO COME OUT? I'M LIKE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
SO THAT'S THE WHEN I GO BACK TO JUST MISS SHERMAN AND SAY, LIKE, WHERE ARE WE? BECAUSE. YOU KNOW, JUST BEING HONEST.
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR WORK ELSEWHERE, HENCE WHY WE'RE HERE AND WHY WE'RE HERE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF EVERYBODY AND NOBODY FEELS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED MONTHS AGO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INCLUSION AND, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT INCLUDING ONE ANOTHER. SO I'M I'M I'M I'M A SUPPORT THIS.
AND I WILL BE I WILL BE STAYING ENGAGED LIKE I ALWAYS DO WITH WORKERS AND EVERYTHING AND JUST YEAH.
SO I'M, I'M REALLY TORN THERE.
MAN YES, SIR. AND I'M RIGHT ALONGSIDE YOU.
WE'VE HAD CITY EMPLOYEES AND YOU TALK ABOUT SURVEYORS AND WORKING ON SATURDAYS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE I'VE GIVEN THEM CHALLENGE COINS BECAUSE I SEE THEM OUT THERE WORKING. ON A REGULAR BASIS.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THIS IS ADDRESSING THE OPPORTUNITY OF OF A VACANCY.
AND AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE ADAMANT ABOUT.
WE WE I KNOW AND CITY MANAGER CAN ATTEST THAT I'M ALWAYS ASKING ABOUT IT.
SO I'M SURE THAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS AS WELL.
BUT I SECOND THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW HOW MUCH NOT ONLY DO WE APPRECIATE.
IF YOU LOOK AT HER RESUME AND HOW DETAILED IT IS, THIS JUST DOESN'T BEGIN TO FACTOR IN WHAT WHAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS DONE FOR THIS CITY AND TO KEEP THIS TEAM INTACT AND NOT WANTING TO GO LOOK ANYWHERE ELSE.
I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EMPLOYEES LOOKING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND SO HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN TO ONE OF OUR LEAD LEADERS? RIGHT. SO I SECOND THAT MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN, MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS MR. WHITE'S COMMENTS. THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THE GRADE INTO IT IS BECAUSE MR. BROWN WAS TAPPED OUT ON OUR TOP GRADE.
SO WHEN A COLOR INCREASE CAME, SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT COLA INCREASE.
THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THE GREAT CITY MANAGER.
IT'S JUST A FEW THINGS WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, I'M HOPING THIS DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT.
WE HAVE ABOUT NEARLY, WHAT, 900 EMPLOYEES, RIGHT.
I'M HOPING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GREATER IMPACT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
THIS IS. I DON'T KNOW THE PERFECT MAN, BUT THIS IS WE'RE GIVING THIS BROWN A $16,000 RAISE TONIGHT, WHICH EQUATED TO MAYBE MOST OF ALL, SOME OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE GUYS, MAYBE HALF OF THEIR PAYMENT.
SO SOME OF OUR ADMIN POSITION, I KNOW IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A FAIR COMPARISON, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
WE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOT INTO CONSIDERATION.
I JUST DON'T WANT THAT HAVE GREATER IMPACT ON THE REST OF THE TEAM.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
IT'S NOT THE NUMBER ONE STUDY.
STUDY AND STUDY SHOWS THAT RECOGNITION SHOW APPRECIATION.
WE'VE HAD WE LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
WHY IS THAT AND AT ALL LEVEL OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
SO WE NEED A A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.
WE NEED TO START LOOKING INTO THESE.
I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE ELEMENT THAT CAN POTENTIALLY IMPACT.
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I TALK TO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TALK TO DIFFERENT LEVEL OF EMPLOYEES.SO I JUST WANT US TO TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHERE MOST EXECUTIVE AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL, THE AVERAGE EMPLOYEE IN MOST SOME OF ALL MAJOR COMPANIES OR EACH DOLLAR, THE AVERAGE EMPLOYEES ALL ACROSS THE BOARD EARN.
THE EXECUTIVES ARE EARNING TO 5250 $4.
DISCOURAGING. SO THE THE BALANCE IS SO OFF AGAIN.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT JOB CLASS DIFFERENT YOU KNOW I'M NOT COMPARING YOU KNOW SHE'S AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL BUT THERE'S A LOT TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
THE MORALE OR CAN THAT IMPACT HAVE A GREAT BIGGER IMPACT THAT WE MAY NOT EVEN.
MAYBE THE CITY MAGIC DON'T EVEN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S MY MY COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONCE AGAIN I'M GOING BACK TO THE STUDY AND THAT THAT SALARY RANGE.
I HAVE. JOE PALM BAY COMES UP TO ME AND SAY, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU JUST VOTED THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER A RAISE.
WHAT JUSTIFICATION WAS SHE DONE? AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
SHE'S, YOU KNOW, I COULD SHOW YOU A RESUME.
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. SHE'S BEEN A NUMBER ONE EMPLOYEE.
WELL, I KNOW A COUPLE OF NUMBER ONE EMPLOYEES IN PUBLIC WORKS ARE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A 16% RAISE.
I'M GOING TO THIS IS HOW I COULD JUSTIFY IT.
WE GAVE HER A RAGE AND HER SALARY AND HER SALARY RANGE BASED OFF A STUDY THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES SHOULD GET FALL IN THAT SALARY RANGE.
BECAUSE MR. BROWN IS YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE A GREAT PERSON AND I LOVE YOUR WORK ETHIC.
AND I DO. I KNOW YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT THERE'S OTHER EMPLOYEES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, TOO.
BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET AT 16% OR OR OR 24% RAISE AND.
SHOULD THAT AFFECT YOU? NO, BUT IT AFFECTS ME BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE A STEWARD OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF I'M GOING TO VOTE AND GIVE YOU A RAISE, I COULD JUSTIFY NOT ONLY BY YOUR OUTSTANDING WORK, BUT YOU FALL IN A STUDY THAT WE GOT DONE FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND WHERE YOU SHOULD FALL IN THAT THE 145 COULD BE AT THE BOTTOM RANGE.
DO YOU DESERVE TO BE AT THE BOTTOM? NO. IF THIS WAS A WE HAD THE STUDY AND AT 145 FALL AT THE BOTTOM, I'D BE SCREAMING AND YELLING LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PAY HER MUCH MORE.
BUT WE COME BACK WITH THE STUDY AND THIS IS IN THE THE TOP OF THE RANGE.
NOW. YOU KNOW, WE GAVE HER A TOP OF THE RANGE AGAIN.
SO THIS IS THE TO ME, WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, I THINK.
COME BACK, BRING THIS BACK THIS YEAR, THE NEXT NEXT WEEK OR WHENEVER, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN MAKE A WISE DECISION.
I THANK YOU, MR. BROWN, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
I PRAY YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT FOR THE CITY AND.
WE COULD. YOU KNOW, SERVE YOU RIGHT BY GIVING YOU THE PROPER PAY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS IS A PROPER PAY FOR YOU.
145 AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO JUSTIFY TO THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND CITY RESIDENTS AND YOU WHERE YOU SHOULD FALL IN AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
JUST. I GUESS BECAUSE ACTUALLY.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I SUPPORTED MS..
SHERMAN. HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO WITH THE REST OF STAFF? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY TALK TO YOU, WHETHER IT'S YOU'RE ALL ALL THE TIME, YOU'RE OUT IN PUBLIC WORKS TALKING TO THEM.
HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT MR. FOSTER WAS ASKING REGARDING, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU GAVE HER A RAISE WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN WE'VE GOTTEN THE EMAILS MULTIPLE TIMES FOR THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT I'M JUST I'M LEANING FOR KNOW YEAH I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION MY COMMITMENT TO STAFF
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AT ALL LEVELS EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS IS THAT I INTEND TO COUNSEL SUPPORT IS IS OBVIOUSLY THE THE FINAL STEP FOR US BUT I INTEND TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THESE INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR SALARIES CITYWIDE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD IT'S GOING TO BE A MULTIYEAR PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF SHIFTING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WHEN WE HAVEN'T REALLY ADDRESSED THINGS HOLISTICALLY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND I WANT US TO BE A CITY THAT IS VERY COMPETITIVE ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THAT IS THAT HAS BEEN MY CONSISTENT COMMENT AND CONVERSATION WITH ALL OF STAFF.
I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE DID AS A AS A TEAM WORKING WITH COUNCIL LAST YEAR ON THE UNION NEGOTIATIONS WITH POLICE AND FIRE, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THAT SINCE THE INITIAL MESSAGE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING ON.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ADDED BACK IN THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS LONGEVITY THAT HAD BEEN SOMETHING HAD BEEN TAKEN AWAY THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR RETENTION.
THAT SAME MESSAGE IS THE MESSAGE THAT AS I'VE HAD MY INITIAL MEETING WITH WHITE AND BLUE, IT'S THE SAME MESSAGE THEY'RE HEARING FROM ME.
BUT OF COURSE, COMES BACK TO COUNCIL FOR WHERE YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO REST ON A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. BUT I BELIEVE THAT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME SOME FOLKS IN ANY ORGANIZATION WHO.
YOU KNOW, DON'T LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMPENSATION AT DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE ORGANIZATION, MAYBE NOT FEEL SATISFIED WITH WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WOULD HOPE FOR MORE. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IS WITHIN MY POWER WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT TO KEEP WORKING THROUGH THAT INCREMENTALLY WITH ALL OF STAFF.
THAT'S THAT IS ONE OF MY I HAVE THREE COMMITMENTS.
IT'S WORK ON ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND AND IT'S DEAL WITH CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT I'M HIGHLY FOCUSED ON.
SO. I GUESS, TO TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TO WRAP UP.
I THINK MORALE HAS BEEN AFFECTED FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE OF THE PAY ISSUES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE DISSATISFIED BY THE FACT THAT IT'S HAPPENING INCREMENTALLY, BUT THAT IS THE WAY THAT I SEE BEST FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO POSITION THE CITY LEADERSHIP TEAM IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES FOR CONTINUITY.
I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, EVEN THOUGH I APPRECIATE THE 78 YEAR AVERAGE FOR A CITY MANAGER, I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHO IS IN THE POSITION FOR DEPUTY BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR THAT IS YOUR YOUR FALLBACK VERSUS THE PERSON IS THERE FOR YOU WHEN, WHEN OR IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, EITHER POLITICALLY OR OTHERWISE IN LIFE.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON WHO IS THE RIGHT COMPETENT PROFESSIONAL DOING THE JOB AND CAN SEAMLESSLY STEP IN AND HELP.
SO THAT THAT FOR ME TAKES THIS CONVERSATION INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PLACE.
IN TERMS OF COMPARISON WITH OTHER EMPLOYEES.
SO. SO I'VE GOT A I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
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SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MARY.THIS IS AN ITEM THAT I'LL ACTUALLY HAVE NANCY BUNT, OUR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, COME UP AND SPEAK TO.
IT IS ONE OF OUR BAYFRONT SIERRA PROPERTIES THAT IS RECEIVED AN OFFER.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL NANCY BROWN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE OFFER FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1626 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.
THE CITY OBTAINED IT IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE COSKEY POND AND ALSO FOR POTENTIAL PARKING AND A POSSIBLE DOG PARK.
SO THE CITY THE SIERRA SIERRA OWNED.
AND ON MARCH 3RD, 2022, THE SIERRA DECLARED THIS PROPERTY AS SURPLUS.
AND ON MARCH 17TH, THE CITY DECLARED THIS PROPERTY FOR SURPLUS.
ON FEBRUARY 24, THE CITY RECEIVED AN APPRAISAL FROM W.H.
BENSON. THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AT 150,000 WON SAID TO BE INTERNATIONAL, WHICH IS THE CITY'S COMMERCIAL BROKER LISTED COMPLETED A BROKER PRICE OPINION OF 140 9087.
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SO THE PROPERTY WAS LISTED ON MARCH 18, 2022, AND THERE WAS ONE OFFER THE CITY RECEIVED ON APRIL 1ST FROM AVALON, REAL ESTATE MANAGER, LLC, AND THE AMOUNT OF $264,365.THIS INCLUDES CERTAIN CONDITIONS WITHIN THE CONTRACT IN ADDITION TO ADDITIONAL ACREAGE THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
AND IF YOU SEE ON THE MAP, THE PARCEL NEXT TO THE RED IS THE 1626 AND THEY ARE REQUESTING PART OF WHAT WE CONSIDER COSKEY POND.
SO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL TERMS ARE THE SELLER DELIVERABLES PROPERTY INFORMATION.
WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS, THE SELLER MUST PROVIDE CERTAIN THINGS LIKE TITLE SEARCH, A TITLE POLICY SURVEYS, APPRAISALS.
THEY WERE LOOKING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND SO THEY WOULD LIKE THAT THOSE APPROVALS DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD, IF THEY'RE DETERMINED THAT THERE'S ANY WETLANDS, THAT THE MITIGATION BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD, AND THEN THEY ANTICIPATE CLOSING 30 DAYS FOLLOWING EXTRA EXPIRATION OF THE DUE DILIGENCE.
THE CONDITIONS TO CLOSING IS THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED GOOD INSURABLE AND MARKETABLE TITLE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A CLAUSE ON ASSIGNMENTS.
SO THE BUYER WILL PAY CASH FOR THE PROPERTY WITH NO FINANCING CONTINGENCY.
THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND THE BOARD APPROVED IT.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS FROM NANCY OF NANCY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
MITIGATION. IF THERE'S ANY MITIGATION PROBLEMS, IS THE BUYER.
AND LET ME ALSO MENTION THAT OUR COMMERCIAL BROKER, MEL HOWARD, IS HERE, AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM AVALON.
ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.
BILL BATTEN. MY DEPUTY IS NOT HERE, SIR.
MASTER CHIEF BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THIS UNDER ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE BECAUSE IT WAS ALL TIED TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE BAYFRONT BC GRAY AREA.
MY QUESTION WAS, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
SO THIS IS A TIME WHERE BILL BATTEN DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF WE HELD OFF ON THIS UNTIL AFTER THE BCR SUNSETTED.
WITH THIS LAND, PLUS THE OTHER ONES THAT WERE ON THE ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE.
WITH THAT FUNDS, THEN BE ABLE TO COME DIRECTLY BACK TO THE CITY, WHICH THEN COULD THEN BE USED IN ROAD MAINTENANCE VERSUS BEING HAVING TO BE TURNED BACK INTO THE BCR ORGANIZATION ITSELF. THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION WAS.
SO HOLD OFF ON THE SALE, GET IT WHERE I CAN GET IT TO COME TO MY ROADS AND I WOULD BE HAPPY. THANK YOU.
AND SHERMAN. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY PROPERTY THAT THE CRA OWNS AT THE TIME THE SERIES SUNSETS ALL REVERTS BACK TO CITY OWNERSHIP.
SO IF WE HELD ANY PROPERTIES AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND THEY WERE SOLD, THOSE PROCEEDS WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND BASED ON OUR CURRENT POLICY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, BUT I GOT ONE QUESTION.
THE SALE IS PROPERTY WILL GO TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, THOUGH.
I'LL HAVE TO HAVE JOAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE FOR.
KEN BROWN, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, FIRST OF ALL.
THE FUNDS THAT ARE THE REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THE SALE WILL GO TO THE BAYFRONT RESERVES PER OUR IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
ALL OF THOSE RESERVE FUNDS GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL CAN DECIDE AT THAT TIME WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO WITH THAT.
I NEED A MOTION. MOTION? APPROVE THE PURCHASE OFFER FOR THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OWN PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1626 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MARY JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN?
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SO YOU KNOW, ALL IN FAVOR ARE PASSES UNANIMOUS, ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW ON COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS, GENTLEMEN, AND I'LL START WITH
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COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE TWO NEW PARKS THAT OPENED UP THIS WEEK.
VETERANS PARK OFF MALABAR BOULEVARD.
THE TWO NEW PLAYGROUNDS THAT OPENED UP.
SO THAT'S A VETERAN'S PARK ON MALIBU BOULEVARD AND OAKWOOD PARK ON KUCINICH.
ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I DID DO A SITE VISIT TO THE ROBOT PROGRAM OFF FLORIDA AVENUE, WHICH HAD A FULL DAY RECLAMATION.
THAT ROAD IS NOW COMPLETE AND THE CREWS HAVE MOVED OVER TO DRISCOLL HEIGHTS AREA FOR FURTHER ACTION. THANK YOU.
THIS LETTER? WELL, THAT'S UNDER MY REPORTS, BROTHER.
I'M BRINGING THAT UP AS YOU WERE.
I JUST. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT AS I SAW IT, I APPRECIATE IT.
AND. I WILL RESERVE MY TIME TO YOU.
COPY THAT, BROTHER. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT BECAUSE YOUR LETTER.
BUT I WANT TO. YEAH, I WANT TO.
I WANT TO COMMENT WHEN YOU COMMENT.
THANK YOU ALSO. AND. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M GOING TO TAKE COUNCILMAN FELIX AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
SO BEFORE HE PULLS THAT UP, MISS MISS WRIGHT DID MENTION SOMETHING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, PARKS AND FACILITIES THAT I DO AGREE WITH.
I DO PRIMARILY TAKE MY SON TO FRED LEE FOR THE SHADING, AND WHENEVER I DO TAKE THEM TO ANOTHER PART, I MAKE SURE I GO ON THE SLIDE BEFORE HE DOES MAKE SURE IT'S NOT TOO HOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, NOT JUST FOR MY CHILD, BUT EVERY CHILD IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
YOU KNOW, JUST A BETTER WAY TO KEEP THEM SAFE.
AND I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO HELP WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE STRUCTURES AS WELL.
SECOND THING I WANTED TO AUDIT, SHE MENTIONED THE AUDIT, TOO.
I THINK THAT'S MORE SO LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS THE CDBG FUNDS AND WHICH WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE IN REGARDS TO THE GREATER PALM BEACH CHAMBER PALM BAY SENIOR CENTER.
SO LOOKING AT WHY IT'S THE MONEY GOING THERE AS OPPOSED TO ELSEWHERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF CAN HAVE A PERSONAL CONVERSATION WITH HER ON FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
BUT I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU, MAYOR, AND JUST THE BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT YOU REMEMBER ON THE DIOCESE A WHILE AGO.
I WAS HESITANT ON IT, BUT I WENT TO EAT AT SKYBOX AND THEY JUST SHOWED THEIR GRATITUDE, APPRECIATION FOR THAT.
AND THEY SAID HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THAT ACKNOWLEDGMENT BY THE CITY AND BY THE MAYOR HAS MADE ON THEIR BUSINESS AND BOOSTING THE BOOSTING THE AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS THAT WERE RIGHT THERE, INNOVATION CENTER AND ALL.
BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE THERE UNTIL THEY SAW IN THE CITY OF PALM BEACH SOCIAL MEDIA OR WEBSITE.
SO SHOUT OUT TO KELLY AND STAFF AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF BUSINESSES CLOSE AND HERE RIGHT, RIGHT HERE DOING WHAT WE DID, MAYOR, DOING WHAT YOU DID, YOU KNOW, BOOSTED THAT AND BOOST THE MORALE.
SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING GET IN ON THE BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT, GET INVOLVED AND JUST EAT SOME RIBS WHILE YOU AT IT.
SO BREVARD COUNTY IS HAVING A JOB FAIR.
I TALK TO MR. SHERMAN ABOUT IT A FEW WEEKS AGO, LIKE, HEY, WE SHOULD DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE VACANCIES AND EVERYTHING.
WHY NOT DO A JOB FAIR AS WELL? AND WE'LL DO IT BETTER THAN BEFORE.
BUT SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA AND GREAT INITIATIVE THAT WE CAN TAKE AS A COUNCIL, AS A CITY.
SORRY, MR. BRYANT. I'M WORKING TONIGHT.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS? WELL, IT'S NOT LIKE AN ORDINANCE, SO.
WELL, ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA WHEN DEPUTY MAYOR BROUGHT IT UP.
AND IT'S SOMETHING WE HAD TALKED TO OFF AND ON WITH STAFF ANYWAY, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'RE DOING OUR OUTREACH ON PROCUREMENT ITEMS AND ESTABLISHING SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL LIKE I FORGET WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT, BUT A LITTLE VENDOR FAIR OR SOMETHING.
SO WE WERE ALREADY AMENABLE TO THE IDEA AT A STAFF LEVEL, AND I ALREADY ASKED STAFF TO START LOOKING AT IT AND THEY WERE EXCITED AND IT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY BEING LOOKED AT.
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SO. HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO IT.YEAH, I THINK I DEFINITELY WANTED TO MAKE SURE I TOLD THE COUNSELOR.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA ACTUALLY.
I'M GOING TO A US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EVENT AT KENNEDY SPACE CENTER WHERE THEY'RE HIRING FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND IN PARTICULAR VETERANS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OR ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THAT THEY'RE RECRUITING ELSEWHERE.
RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS SHOULD BE THERE AS WELL, REPRESENTING AND THESE THESE EVENTS TO TO GATHER GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR VACANCIES. BUT CARRY ON.
I APPRECIATE IT. SO NEXT UP, SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WE HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP APPLICATION.
MAYOR, YOU WERE THERE WHEN WE AWARDED TWO APPLICANTS FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
ONE IS LOOKING TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND THE OTHER WAS ANOTHER POSITION.
BUT WHAT THIS DOES, IT'S A SCHOLARSHIP APPLICATION.
IT'S A SCHOLARSHIP. AND ALL THE FUNDS COME FROM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE DONATING TO IT'S LIKE PENAL WASTE MANAGEMENT, REPUBLIC WASTE PRO HEALTH FIRST.
SO THOSE ARE THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
AND IT'S TO, YOU KNOW, A WARD, SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GET INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT'S AS A FIREFIGHTER OR A POLICE OFFICER OR A CITY MANAGER OR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, CITY CLERK.
LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA, YOU MEET IT APPLY.
WE'RE SENT IT OUT TO OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SO THEY CAN SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY FOR FREE.
AND SORRY, THAT WAS THAT WAS A BAD JOKE.
BUT SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SPREAD THE WORD ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, GET GET THE WORD OUT THERE BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND OUR FOR OUR FUTURE AND THEN GOING ON TO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE.
I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN FELIX FOR REVISING THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD PRIOR, BUT LOOKING AT IT AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE REACHED OUT AND WANTING TO APPLY, THEY DON'T MEET THAT 30 YEAR OLD RANGE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL OF REVISING BECAUSE MY, MY MYSELF, I JUST TURNED 30 A FEW MONTHS AGO.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE FOR US TO LOOK TO REVISE BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS JUST SPEAKING EARLIER AND OTHERS, THEY'RE THEY WORK FOR L-3 HARRIS OR NORTHROP GRUMMAN, AND THEY'RE MAKING SIX FIGURES AND THEY'RE 24, 25 YEARS OLD, AND THEY WANT TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OTHERS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT REVISING AND BRING BACK BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I NEED CONSENSUS FROM.
SO YEAH, YOU GOT YOU GOT A UNANIMOUS.
TWO MORE THINGS. I'M ALMOST DONE.
SO THEN ANOTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING MARKET, WE'RE LOOKING AT PRICES, WE'RE LOOKING AT RENT, RENT PRICES AND EVERYTHING. AND ONE THING I NOTICED AND THEY'RE VOTING ON IT AS WE SPEAK, IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY.
BUT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WAS DISCUSSING A NEW ORDINANCE IN REGARDS TO ADDRESSING RENTAL RENTAL PRICES. AND WHILE YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GOVERN HOW MUCH SOMEBODY IS GOING TO CHARGE FOR RENT, ONE THING THAT THEY LOOKED AT AND I THINK IT'S A COMPROMISE BETWEEN LANDLORDS AND RENTERS IS GIVING A 60 DAY NOTICE TO RENTERS SHOULD THE PRICE INCREASE BY 55% OR MORE. THAT WAY, THE RENTER CAN DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO OR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO MOVE. BUT THE LANDLORD AT THE SAME TIME ISN'T BEING, YOU KNOW, HANDCUFFED ON WHAT TO DO OR WHAT NOT TO DO.
YOU'RE JUST PROVIDING AMPLE TIME OF NOTICE.
THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ORIGINALLY WAS LOOKING AT SIX MONTHS, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LIKE THERE'S SO MANY LOOPHOLES IN THAT BECAUSE THE RENTER COULD CUT THE LEASE AT THE YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY FIND OUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE INCREASED.
AND SO I THOUGHT 60 DAYS WAS A GOOD LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
AND I WOULD BE LOOKING TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE SPACE COAST REALTORS ASSOCIATION TO GET THEIR INPUT ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT THEM AS WELL.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO COUNCIL ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S NO ONE SOLUTION TO SOLVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SOLVE WHAT'S GOING ON IN REGARDS TO RENTING AND BUYING HOUSES.
BUT THIS IS JUST A WAY TO TRY TO.
ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO TRY TO HELP OUT.
SO THERE COULD BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHEN WE GO DOWN THAT PATH.
RIGHT. SO DEFINITELY WITH THE WITH THOSE FOLKS, THE LANDLORDS OF THE SPACE COAST OR THE REALTORS. THOSE ARE MY $0.02.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE IT FEELS, BUT IT'S ALSO.
OF. SO TREAD LIGHTLY WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE, AT LEAST FROM MY
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PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE A NATION OF PROSPERITY AND A BUSINESS.EVERY MAYOR. SO WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO? IS TO BRING IN SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE.
YEAH. SO THE ORDINANCE AND, AND I LOOKED WITH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ORIGINALLY, THEY STARTED AT A HIGHER AMOUNT, THEY STARTED AT SIX MONTHS AND THEN THEY GOT PUSHBACK FROM THE BASICALLY THE SAME THING AS THE SPACE COAST REALTORS.
IT WAS THE TAMPA REALTORS ASSOCIATION OR SOMETHING THAT RECOMMENDED 60 DAYS.
SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD BE LOOKING AT WORKING WITH OUR SPACE COAST REALTORS TO SEE WHAT'S PALATABLE FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE SAY SO ON THIS AS WELL.
BUT IT'S MORE SO JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOME AREAS IN PALM BAY, THE RENT IS OVER 2000 FOR ONE BED, ONE BATH.
AND I'M CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE GOING BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO IT'S NOT GOING TO GO DOWN. SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST SOMETHING AND I MIGHT NOT EVEN SUPPORT IT ONCE IT COMES BACK TO US.
BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO EXPLORE, GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND BRING IT TO US.
AND WE MIGHT EVEN FINE TUNE IT ON THE DICE OR WE MIGHT JUST VOTE IT DOWN ALTOGETHER.
BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO EXPLORE, SIR.
I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR THE MANAGEMENT THEY WOULD GIVE THEIR TENANT.
YOU LOOKING FOR STANDARDIZE THAT? THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT.
YES. BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM UP NORTH ARE BUYING A LOT OF THESE HOUSES AND THEN THEY STILL OWN THEIR HOUSES AND THEY'RE RENTING THEM OUT FOR WHATEVER PRICE THEY WANT. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE CONCERN I HAVE THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT. YOU JUST PUTTING YOUR TIME SO TODAY FOR PROPER NOTICE.
SO I'VE GOT I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS. THE VERY FIRST ONE, I SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON ON OUR DISCUSSION.
YOU'RE RIGHT. RENT IS GOING UP.
I MEAN, IT IS THE GAS PRICES BEYOND WHAT WE EVEN ANTICIPATED COULD INCREASE IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THE PRICE OF GAS IS WHAT DRIVES EVERYTHING.
AND WE NEED THAT TO PAVE OUR STREETS AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO ALONG WITH THAT, BECAUSE EVERYTHING COSTS SO MUCH MORE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. RIGHT.
POLICE, WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ON IMPACT FEES.
SO I LIKE AND I KNOW THAT WE REVISITED THAT WHATEVER IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO OR FOUR YEARS AGO. BUT THE THE POINT IS TODAY, THE IMPACT FEES MAY NOT BE WHAT WE'RE CHARGING IS IS SUFFICIENT.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING AND IT COULD BE ON THE BACKS OF OUR OUR RESIDENTS TODAY.
RIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE COUNSEL, CONCESSION INCENTIVES TO HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF WORK ON HOW DO WE HOW IS THAT FORMULA WORKING FOR US? ARE WE SHOULD WE BE INCREASING IT BASED ON THE DEMAND, THE SUPPLY TODAY, EVEN THE SUPPLY CHAIN, EVERYTHING IS WAITING.
SO MY THOUGHTS ARE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT IMPACT FEE OR WHAT WE'RE CHARGING AND MAYBE BRING IT UP TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT.
BUILDING ON THE BACKS OF OUR RESIDENTS.
I'D LIKE TO GET THAT TYPE OF CONSENSUS.
MAYBE STAFF CAN WORK ON THAT, SO WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.
BUT I'M WANTING TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE'S GOT TO SAY.
I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNSEL WAS AWARE THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES TO THE IMPACT FEE LAWS.
THERE ARE LIMITS ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN INCREASE, AND THERE ARE ALSO LIMITS ON THE TIME FRAME. YOU CAN ONLY INCREASE ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS AND AS WELL AS CERTAINLY IF STAFF WERE TO BE INVOLVED IN IT, THERE HAS TO BE ACTUALLY A BASIS OF CALCULATIONS AND WE ALWAYS HAVE AND CONSULTANT THAT DOES PROVIDE THAT EXPERTIZE AND THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT I DID WANT COUNSEL TO BE AWARE WE ARE LIMITED TO ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS.
SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT? I THOUGHT IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.
I DON'T KNOW. I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT NOW, YOU'RE LOCKED IN.
AND ALSO SO COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT WE DON'T REALLY GET TO PICK THE RACE AS MUCH AS WE HAVE
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TO HAVE THAT BASED UPON CERTAINLY ESTIMATES AND CERTAIN EVALUATION OF DATA WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE BY OUR CONSULTANT, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND INCREASE AND THE AMOUNTS AND THERE'S LIMITS AS FAR AS HOW MUCH THE INCREASE COULD EVEN BE.WELL, AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT IS WITH THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I KNOW, THAT FORMULA HAS GOT TO BE CHANGING.
AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY IT'S GOING TO COME BACK, BUT CERTAINLY I WANT TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE FOR THIS TO CONTINUE, WE SHOULD REALLY BE LOOKING AT INCREASING THOSE IMPACT.
BATTLE. RIGHT, MA'AM? YES, I'M HAPPY TO LOOK. I WAS JUST HAVING A MOMENT OF CONTEMPLATION, IMPACT FEES.
TYPICALLY, WHAT GOES INTO THE DATA THAT GOES INTO THE I GUESS THE BACKUP THAT CREATES THE RATE INCLUDES A LOT OF CAPITAL NEED TYPE THINGS.
SO IT'S THE ESTIMATED COST FOR FUTURE FIRE STATIONS, FUTURE ADDITIONAL TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT AND THINGS. SO I THINK OF FUEL AS MORE OF A.
OPERATIONAL EXPENSE THAT IMPACT FEES DON'T NORMALLY COVER.
BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD RATHER ASK OUR EXPERTS STANTEC DID THE LAST STUDY FOR US, SO WE WILL ASK THEM THAT QUESTION.
I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT IT ACTUALLY.
THAT MAN. BUT I DO SEE THAT THERE'S A THERE'S AN INCREASE IN COST ALL THROUGHOUT, NOT JUST OVERALL, BUT ALL THROUGH WHAT I CAN TELL YOU.
SO I'D BE SURPRISED IF THE IMPACT FEE FORMULA DOESN'T INCREASE.
THAT'S AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.
FOR. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, CAN WE LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AS WELL? I MEAN, EVEN IF THERE IS NO CHANGES MADE TO THE ORDINANCE, JUST JUST TO REVIEW IT, I DID HAVE ONE OF THOSE CONCERNS WHICH I READ OUT THAT IF THE IMPACT FEE IS NOT SPENT ON CAPITAL FUNDS, THEN IT'S RETURNED AS RETURNED TO THE PAYEE SEVEN YEARS FROM THEN.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO LOOK AT AND WE SHOW.
TO ADD TO THAT. IS THAT IS THAT GOOD TO GO, MAN? THAT'S GREAT. AND IF SINCE IT'S BROUGHT UP, IF I COULD JUST SHARE SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.
WE GO THROUGH CURRENT STAFF WHERE WE GO AND WE ACTUALLY ARE PROJECTING OUT FUTURE PROJECTS FOR THE IMPACT FEES IN EACH CATEGORY AND ZIP CODE NEXUS SO THAT WE HAVE A PLAN FOR HOW THOSE WILL BE USED SO WE DON'T GET THE WHAT WE CALL THE STALE IMPACT FEES.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORTING THAT IN THAT VENUE.
THEN MY SECOND ITEM IS WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS ALLUDING TO, AND HE YIELDED HIS TIME TO MEET DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
BUT I PUT ON ON YOUR DESK, ON YOUR DIAS.
I RECEIVED THE LETTER FROM A RETIRED COLONEL, LIEUTENANT COLONEL, UTOPIC.
AND AND THE GOAL OF OF HIS ORGANIZATION IS TO BUILD AN IRAQI AND AFGHANISTAN WAR MEMORIAL. THAT'S THEIR FOUNDATION.
SO HE HE LAID OUT A LETTER WHERE THEY WOULD PAY THE COST, THEY WOULD PAY THE TRANSPORTATION TO GET IT HERE.
THEY WOULD ACTUALLY INSTALL IT.
AND SO ALL WE WOULD PROVIDE IS THE LOCATION AND THE MAINTENANCE.
AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE HEADS UP.
AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, THIS RENDITION, IF YOU TURN THE PAGE, IS IS OVERWHELMING, AND I'LL JUST SHOW THIS UP.
AND IT'S GOT THE NAMES OF THE OIF VETERANS.
AND IT'S IT'S A WORTHWHILE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BUILD THE MEMORIAL FOR OUR O'KEEFE O'KEEFE VETERANS.
AND IT GOES IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT VETERANS PART.
RIGHT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THIS TO, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THIS FEAT, I THINK. AND.
I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'LL JUST BE A VETERANS PART.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN TO A PUBLIC PARK THAT WE CAN DISPLAY THIS AND OF COURSE MAINTAIN IT. WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE MANUFACTURING OR THE DELIVERY OF IT.
SO I WANTED TO GET COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO ALLOW STAFF TO START MOVING FORWARD AND ALLOW ME TO SEND THIS ORGANIZATION A LETTER RETURN, RESPOND AND SAY, YOU'VE GOT A PARTNER IN THIS.
I WANT TO BE THE VERY FIRST CITY IN IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THIS WITH THIS 523 ORGANIZATION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND MAKE IT A REALITY IN OUR IN OUR CITY. SO I'LL I'M WILLING TO SINCE COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS GOING TO BRING THIS UP, I'M
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GOING TO YIELD MY TIME NOW TO YOU.COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I THINK IT'S AN OUTSTANDING IDEA.
I THINK WE SHOULD PARTNER WITH IRAQ AND THE AFGHANISTAN WAR MEMORIAL FOUNDATION.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AT VETERAN PARK.
I THINK WE COULD FIND A SPOT FOR IT AND ALSO BRING THAT STATIC MILITARY EQUIPMENT THERE, TOO, AND REALLY MAKE THAT PARK SHINE.
I THINK FRED POPPY'S GONE, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A HIGHLIGHT.
BECAUSE A LOT OF ATTENTION WOULD GO TO THIS.
WE COULD WE CAN MAKE A SOCIAL MEDIA ATTENTION BEING THAT WE HAVE A WE HAVE VETERAN COMMUNITY. I JUST THINK THAT WILL JUST BE OUTSTANDING THING TO DO FOR OUR VETERANS OF ALL WARS, ESPECIALLY IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
BUT LET ME JUST SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT.
AND I AGREE VETERANS PARK MAY BE AN IDEAL PLACE FOR IT, RIGHT? BUT HERE'S I DON'T WANT TO JUST TIE IT TO VETERANS PARK.
I WANT TO KEEP THAT OPEN AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
WE ALWAYS. RIGHT, WE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
SO IF IF WE WERE TO HAVE, SAY, THE VIETNAM ERA VETERANS WANTING TO DO THEIR MEMORIAL, A REPLICA THERE, THEN I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THE SPACE FOR THAT ERA OR THE DESERT STORM VETERANS WOULD WANT TO.
SO I WOULD WANT TO KIND OF LIKE.
LET'S SEE HOW MUCH BASE WE HAVE, BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS SUBSTANTIAL.
THAT THAT THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL RENDITION AND TRIBUTE TO OUR OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL THAT SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES.
SO CONCEPTUALLY, YES, I THINK.
HE GOT ALL THE FLAGS OUT THERE.
RIGHT. BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO TIE THE HANDS, BECAUSE WHAT IF SOMEONE ELSE COMES AND WE CAN APPEASE THEM AT THAT PARK? SO I'M THINKING ON A BIGGER SCALE.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL THESE FOLKS.
SEND THEM A LETTER, SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO WE DO WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU.
WE WANT TO BE THE FIRST CITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO BRING THIS.
COME TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT PARKS WE HAVE TO OFFER AND GIVE THEM THAT TYPE OF OPTION AS WELL. THAT MAKES SENSE.
I'M ALL FOR THIS, MR. MAYOR, BUT IT'S ALL GOOD.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK TOWARDS SACRIFICE PARK.
PARK. WHICHEVER PARK, THOUGH. BUT I'M FINE WITH KEEPING IT OPEN TOO, SO.
WE DID CONSIDER SACRIFICE PARK AS WELL, BUT I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE A51C3 AND THAT'S THE COUNTY.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND ASK FOR PERMISSION.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO TIE OUR HANDS.
THANK YOU. SO I'M ASKING TO SEND THE LETTER.
HAVE THEM SAY, HEY, PALM BAY WANTS TO BE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
AND WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BE THE FIRST ONES IN THIS IN THIS STATE TO HAVE THAT.
MADAM SHERMAN, NOTHING FURTHER.
ELIZABETH? ELIZABETH BLACKFORD.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
SO WE MADE IT. HEY.YOU GUYS ARE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR MEETINGS.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME COMPLIMENTS, SO I'D LIKE TO.
I KNOW I'M KEEPING EVERYBODY LATE.
I'M SORRY, BUT THERE'S SOME REALLY NICE THINGS THAT HAPPENED TONIGHT, SO I HOPE IT'S OKAY IF I TELL YOU ABOUT IT FOR JUST A MINUTE.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, I'M HERE BECAUSE I WAS INSPIRED BY SUSAN CONNELLY, AN AMAZING RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AMAZING RESIDENT.
AND I'M SUPPORTING THE ZONING.
I LIKE THE DECISION THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL ZONING, SO I REALLY SUPPORT THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU THAT YOU GUYS DO WITH THE CONSENT AND VERY IMPRESSED YOU HAD 18 I HAVE LITERALLY GIVEN PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS AS A CITIZEN AND I HAVE JUST RECENTLY LEARNED ABOUT IT SINCE I'VE BEEN GETTING INTO THE CITY LIFE.
BUT HERE YOU HAVE 18 ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SEVEN OF THEM GOT PULLED OFF HER DISCUSSION.
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AND YOU HAD A CITIZEN WHO CAME AND HAD FEEDBACK AND YOU LISTENED TO THE FEEDBACK AND YOU SAVED SOME. I MEAN, YOU WANTED TO SAVE MONEY.THERE WAS THIS ITEM HERE FOR THE $16,000.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT'S PETITIONING FOR MORE MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT THE RIGHT PRICE ON YOUR ON YOUR PROPERTY.
I'M REALLY AMAZED BY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAVE SEEN SUCH PARTICIPATION IN THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE YOU DO A DILIGENT JOB.
AND I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S IN IT.
I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY WOULD DO IT ALL OF THE MEETINGS, OF COURSE.
BUT I AM APPLAUDING YOU ON THAT, BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CITY BUSINESS THAT GOES INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND BY PULLING THE THINGS OUT AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE SPOKEN TO AND LISTENING TO YOUR CITIZENS SO THAT YOU GUYS RESPONDED BACK.
AND THERE'S THERE'S A SENSE OF BALANCE WHEN YOU HAVE A DELIBERATIVE MEETING AND YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO ALL THE PEOPLE THERE.
THERE'S A SENSE OF BALANCE THAT THAT IS NOT AT EVERY MEETING.
SO I DON'T WANT TO DISPARAGE ANYONE, BUT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN AT ALL MEETINGS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL BE AT EVERY MEETING.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I COMMENDED YOU ON THAT.
I APPRECIATED THE DIVERSITY OF OPINION THAT YOU REALLY LISTENING TO EACH OTHER.
OH, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THERE WAS A COUPLE OF MOVEMENTS THAT YOU HAD AND OR MOTIONS FOR CONSENSUS.
THAT IS SOMETHING I JUST POSTED ON FACEBOOK TODAY IS THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING CONSENSUS.
I AM PERSONALLY A LANDLORD LANDLORD IN ANOTHER STATE AND I FIND YOUR MEASURE ABOUT THE 60 DAYS VERY REASONABLE FOR A 5% INCREASE.
AND THEN YOU HAD ONE THAT WAS ALSO VERY REASONABLE, DARN IT.
IT WAS YOUR FIRST PROPOSAL THAT YOU GOT THAT YOU HAD SOME WAY IN.
IT DOES GO ON THE BACK OF ALL THE TAXPAYERS.
AND SO IF YOU CAN BE AS ASSERTIVE AS POSSIBLE ON THOSE IMPACT FEES, THAT MAKES MY NIGHT JUST GOING HOME JUST TO KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS THINKING ABOUT THE BACKS OF THE CURRENT TIME BECAUSE ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT GETS PUT ON TO US AND ALL OF THESE EXTRA TAXES ARE PARTIALLY TO HELP PAY FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN, AND IT DOESN'T FEEL FAIR AT ALL. SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THOSE IMPACT, THESE I REALLY APPRECIATE.
SO THOSE WERE THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL GET BACK SOON.
I WAS HERE FOR FOUR AND A HALF HOURS OF IT.
I LOVE THAT YOU HAVE A CITY MANAGER THAT'S A FEMALE.
AND AND I THANK YOU FOR MY EVENING TONIGHT.
SO THANK YOU, MAN. THANK YOU, BILL BATTEN.
IT'S IN OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER'S A FEMALE AND WE HAVE MANY DIRECTORS THAT ARE FEMALES AS WELL. MAN CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY ATTORNEY.
BUILD THAT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE TWO ITEMS TO BRING UP UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THE SCHOOL OR THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
MY SUGGESTION, THAT IS, WELL, THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO US FOR FREE.
WELL, LET'S DO GO AHEAD AND START CHARGING THEM FOR THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE'RE DOING.
WE HAVE THEM ATTENDING THE SWIMMING POOL AND USING IT FOR THE SCHOOLS OR USING THE SWIMMING POOL FOR THEIR COURSES BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THEIR OWN SWIMMING POOLS.
SO LET'S JUST CHARGE THEM ALSO.
GOOD FOR ONE, GOOD FOR THE OTHER, OR THE UNDERSTANDING.
AND WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SALARIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
I'D PREFER THEY GAVE IT TO US FOR FREE, BUT THEY DON'T.
AND I DID REALIZE IT WASN'T $47,000.
BUT WHEN YOU READ THE PACKET, THAT'S HOW IT WAS LISTED IN THE SUBTITLE.
YOU KNOW ME. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO BRING IT TO LIGHT BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD.
SO I'VE WORKED MANY PLACES WHERE.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE MADE WHEN YOU WENT AND APPLIED FOR THE JOB.
IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT, YOU SAID, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THAT PRICE.
SO YOU DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHERE IT WAS AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU WAS. YOU DID NOT DISCUSS YOUR SALARY OF WHAT YOU WERE GETTING PAID.
IT WAS VERY BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE.
BUT THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, IF, AS THE EMPLOYER, WOULD I WANT TO PAY SOMEBODY, IF YOU OFFER TOO LITTLE, YOU WON'T GET ANYBODY.
IF YOU OFFER TOO MUCH, YOU'LL LOSE IN YOUR BOTTOM LINE.
SO YOU CAN'T KEEP THE SUSTAINING OF THE BUSINESS.
SO THERE'S THAT GIVE AND TAKE.
BUT MY DAD ALWAYS SAID, OFFER AS LITTLE AS YOU CAN.
WHEN YOU'RE GETTING SOMEBODY TO WORK FOR YOU, OFFER THEM AS LITTLE AS YOU CAN.
AND IF YOU CAN'T GET ANYBODY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY MORE.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE, BUT SO BE THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS CURRENTLY THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS PAYING 71% OF OUR AD VALOREM GOES TO
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SALARIES, 71%.ALL RIGHT. THAT'S $58.6 MILLION A YEAR.
JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF WE RAISED THAT ACROSS THE BOARD, THAT WOULD ONLY BE ACROSS THE BOARD. AT THAT PERCENTAGE, WE WOULD ONLY HAVE 16% OF OUR AD VALOREM TAX TO RUN THE CITY ON SOMETHING.
CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PAY RAISES THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO FACE AND THE VACANCIES, WE'RE ALREADY AT 71%.
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE CITY.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET.
AND YOU CAN'T RUN A CITY WITHOUT PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN'T RUN THE CITY WITHOUT FUNDING TO PAY FOR YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHERE YOU'RE AT, THOUGH. THAT'S IT.
AFTER BUTCH MITCHELL RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.
WHEN I WAS UP FOR REFORM, I FORGOT THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT THAT PALM BAY HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.
I JUST SEEN AN ARTICLE WHERE IOWA SETTLED FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, SO THEY'VE GOT THEIR PAYOUT. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY WAY YOU CAN GET AN UPDATE ON WHERE OR I DON'T NEED IT TONIGHT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD LOOK INTO.
APPRECIATE THAT, MADAM ATTORNEY.
I RECENTLY SENT IT OUT TO YOU.
I CAN PICK IT UP, BUT I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU.
FLORIDA HAS CLOSE TO ITS SETTLEMENT, AND THEY EVEN PROVIDED US SHEETS THAT SHOW WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE OUR PALM BAY WILL RECEIVE.
I'M SURE I CAN PROBABLY GET IT FROM EITHER SUZANNE OR TERESE AND AFFORD THAT EMAIL TO YOU. NO PROBLEM. I'LL HAVE IT UP RIGHT NOW.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET AT WHAT'S COMING TO US.
HI, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER.
SEEING. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.