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OKAY. THE HOUR IS UPON US SINCE WE HAVE GUEST WILL GET STARTED EXACTLY ON TIME.

[CALL TO ORDER]

COULD I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? I'LL DO IT.

I MUST PRESENT VICE CHAIR PRESIDENT REBECCA.

EMORY. FRAZIER HALL.

EDWARDS. DAVID JONES.

PRESIDENT HARRY MUELLER.

IN HER MIND, VITAL IS AN EXCUSE TO ABSENCE.

RIGHT. CORRECT.

AN ADOPTION OF MINUTES.

WE HAVE THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH MEETING.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

ANY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS? NOT ON AN EMOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

2 MINUTES A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

EVEN THEN I SECOND MEMORY.

OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT, MR.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

BATTEN. BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST FIRST GREAT JOB DAVID JONES DID AT THE CHARTER REVIEW.

HE PRESENTED HIS PRESENTED YOUR NOT HIS CASE YOUR CASE TO HAVE THE CITY MAKE DEDICATED FUND FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE AT THE CHARTER REVIEW.

IT WAS NOT RECEIVED WELL, TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, AND SO THEY WEREN'T EVEN CONSIDERING IT, SENDING IT UP TO THE COUNCIL AT THIS POINT.

SO IT WAS A IT WAS A VALIANT EFFORT, BUT FAILED.

BUT PAY ATTENTION TO MEETINGS, COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I'M CALLING THEM OUT ON IT AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING THAT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID UP THERE. I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND TRYING TO STILL MAKE THEM RESPONSIBLE. BUT I KNOW YOU TRIED.

THAT WAS MORE THAN SOME PEOPLE EVEN DO.

THANK YOU. JUST TO ADDRESS THAT, I DO PLAN TO GO TO CONSOLE WITH IT.

IT DOESN'T STOP AT THAT COMMITTEE AND CONSOLE CAN ADD SUBTRACT FROM THAT LIST AS THEY SEE FIT. SO I WILL MAKE MY CASE TO THE CITY CONSOLE.

THANK YOU, MR. BATTEN.

THAT'S TRUE. JUST I DID WANT TO SAY THAT THAT IT DID TAKE A WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THOUGHT TO BE A VERY QUICK MEETING TO A ABOUT A GOOD 45 MINUTE CONVERSATION.

AND JUST FOR THIS OR FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE, ONE OF THE, I GUESS, THOUGHT PROCESS THAT CAME OUT OF IT IS AND I DON'T WANT WE DON'T HAVE TO DOVE TOO DEEP INTO THIS, BUT IT'S MORE CENTERED AROUND THE CAP.

AND IF THAT'S IF THE CAP WASN'T AS LIMITED TO 3%, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

AND SO BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SAY WE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT POSSIBLY CHANGING FROM 3% TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE ABILITY TO PUT THE FUNDS ASIDE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE CHARTER.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? PART.

A REVIEW COMMISSION PROPOSING TO DO AWAY WITH THE 3% CAP.

YES. THE QUESTION, HOW OPPOSED WOULD WELL, I GUESS PROBABLY THE THOUGHTS VERSUS PUTTING IT IN THE CHARTER VERSUS A POLICY WHERE IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DETERMINED AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE ON A DIFFERENT REALLY VERSUS IT BEING SET IN STONE IN THE CHARTER, WHICH IS THE POLICY. PARTY IN THE CHARTER THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE.

NOTHING. YES.

NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE CHARTER THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE THE MAINTENANCE.

IT'S JUST NOT FUNDED WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE CHARTER OR PERCENTAGE.

CHARTER. AGAIN, FRANK WATANABE, THE CITY ENGINE.

THE CHARTER IS KIND OF VAGUE.

IT MENTIONS MAINTENANCE BUT DOESN'T GIVE THE DETAILS.

AND IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT HOW TO MANAGE OR FUND IT EITHER.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, FRANK, WHEN IT SAYS MAINTENANCE, I THINK THAT'S.

BUT IN TOTALITY, EVERYTHING IS A GENERAL TERM.

THAT'S HOW I READ IT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GET INTO THE DETAILS.

THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS THIS AREA RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT PROBABLY DOESN'T DEFINE WHAT MAINTENANCE IS.

JUST ADD TO THAT THAT 70% OF THE VOTERS PUT THE 3% CAP IN PLACE, AND I THINK 70% OF THE VOTERS WILL KEEP IT THERE.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION.

MOVING ON TO OUR BUSINESS TONIGHT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM SPACE COAST AREA TRANSIT

[BUSINESS]

TERRY JORDAN. THANK YOU, SIR.

OH, NO, I'M IN SECOND.

I APOLOGIZE FOR TERRY'S ABSENCE.

TODAY'S TERRY'S 50TH BIRTHDAY.

OH. SO HE ACCEPTED THIS INVITATION FROM FRANK.

AND THEN VOLUN TOLD MYSELF.

I'M LANCE PARKER, THE MANAGER OF OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FOR SPACE COAST AREA TRANSIT, AND CARMEN BAEZ IS THE MOBILITY MANAGER.

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WE DO THE VAST MAJORITY OF SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS FOR FOR SPACE COAST TRANSIT, BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF IN THE NUTS AND BOLTS EVERY DAY.

THIS IS OUR NEW SPEAKER'S BUREAU VIDEO THAT WE DO FOR ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS. WE DID THIS DURING COVID.

ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT KEPT US BUSY.

SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR UP TO DATE INFORMATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE'LL HANG AROUND AFTERWARDS.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ANSWER.

IT'S.

FINE. SHE? SHE'S.

EFFECT.

IT'S.

SEE STEP.

WHAT? SEE.

SUCH A. IT'S.

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SPEAKING.

EMERGENCY SITUATION.

SHUTTERSTOCK THE TRANSFORMATION.

OH, YEAH.

IT WOULD.

SO. JESUS.

THE HOUSE.

DO IT HERE IT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO. UH.

UH, TWO THINGS ONES.

FIRST ONE IS NOT THE VIDEO.

I'LL GET TO THE VIDEO. YOU WERE.

YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR A MINUTE, RIGHT? I'VE BEEN THERE. I'VE BEEN WITH SPACEX'S SIERRA TRANSIT FOR 11 YEARS.

AND KARMAN BAEZ HAS BEEN THERE 23 THIS YEAR.

OKAY. NO, I JUST WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

I WAS I WAS LIKE, WHY DOES HE LOOK SO FAMILIAR? AND THEN IT CLICKED ON ME WITH THE UNITED WAY PRESENTATION A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK.

THERE YOU GO. YEAH, THAT'S I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IS AT THAT.

I DID NOT. NO, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

QUESTION. DO YOU ALL PARTNER WITH LIKE BRAVADO ACHIEVEMENT CENTER OR PROMISE? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH. PROMISING BOVARD WE WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE TO PUT THE BUS SHELTER IN FRONT OF PROMISE, ALONG WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ROUTE 20, WHICH IS THE HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL ROUTE, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD SERVICE NORTHBOUND ON MITTON ROAD, NOT SOUTHBOUND, SO WE GOT THEM TO PUT ANOTHER STOP IN AND DO IMPROVEMENTS OVER THERE WHERE THEIR CAFETERIA IS AT THE FIELD OF DREAMS. YEAH. SO YEAH, WE PARTNER WITH EVERY WE'VE WE'VE HAD A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND IT WAS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TO IMPROVE A LOT OF THE BUS STOPS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BECAUSE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WAS THE CITY WAS GOING THROUGH SOME TOUGH TIMES AND IN THE WINTER TIME THEY WERE HAVING TO LAY OFF OR FURLOUGH A LOT OF THEIR PUBLIC WORKS WORKERS.

SO WE TEAMED UP WITH THEM.

WE USE FEDERAL GRANTS AND WE DID BUS STOPS AND BUS SHELTERS AND BENCHES.

AND SO THOSE GUYS DURING THE WINTERTIME, WHEN THE GRASS DOESN'T NEED TO BE CUT, THEY STILL HAD WORK AND IT WAS GREAT AND WE PAID THEM TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL PARTNER WITH ANYBODY THAT'LL LISTEN BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING.

IT HELPS US A LOT, YOU KNOW, TO TO TO PARTNER WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HOWEVER WE CAN. BUT ALL THE LEARNING CENTERS, EVEN EASTERSEALS DOWN HERE AT PALM BAY ROAD I'M SORRY, BABCOCK AND MALABAR, ALL THE LEARNING CENTERS WE PARTNER WITH, WE PARTNER WITH A

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LOT OF DIALYSIS CENTERS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DIALYSIS CLIENTS.

COUNTY ALSO. THANK YOU.

YEAH. ANY SENIOR? BUT NEEDS YOUR SERVICE IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION.

WHAT HOW DO THEY DO THAT? YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? THAT'S REALLY CARMEN'S DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S. ACTUALLY THE PILOT SPECIFIED COMPRISE.

I ALSO USE THE MICROPHONE, SO I ALSO OVERSEE VOLUNTEERS IN MOTION.

SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS, THAT'D BE GREAT.

ON PARATRANSIT IN ORDER TO QUALIFY, THEY HAVE IT'S AN APPLICATION.

WE ACTUALLY WHEN THEY CALL OUR SERVICE, OUR LINE, THE PHONE NUMBER IS ON THE MAP.

WE QUALIFY THEM OVER THE PHONE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE YOU.

BECAUSE YOU CALLED. YOU WOULDN'T BE CALLING IF YOU DIDN'T NEED US.

SO WE QUALIFY YOU OVER THE PHONE.

WE PUT YOU IN THE SYSTEM, AND THEN WE SEND YOU THE APPLICATION BECAUSE THE STATE REQUIRES IT. THE STATE ALSO REQUIRES PROOF OF EITHER AGE DISABILITY BECAUSE WE OR OUR COUNTY HAVE THIS HONESTY.

WE BELIEVED YOU.

BUT THE STATE BEING THAT WE'RE FEDERALLY FUNDED.

MAYBE THIS PERSON IS 18 YEARS OLD.

HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU JUST QUALIFIED THEM BECAUSE.

SO I HATE DOING IT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT IN OUR APPLICATIONS.

BUT WE WE QUALIFY THEM OVER THE PHONE AND WE TAKE THEM TO DOCTOR'S OFFICES.

WE TAKE THEM SHOPPING, MOVIES, HAIRDRESSER BECAUSE LIFE SUSTAINING DOESN'T REALLY MEAN MEDICAL. LIFE SUSTAINING IS ACTUALLY RECREATIONAL.

IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING THEM OUT.

FROM THE FOUR WALLS THEREIN.

WE TAKE RESERVATIONS UP TO SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE.

THE ONLY THING WE NEED FROM THEM IS THE EXACT ADDRESS OF THE LOCATIONS THEY GO IN.

AND HOW LONG ARE THEY GOING TO BE THERE? THEY HAVE TO BE DISABLED TO GET THIS SERVICE IS TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGE.

SO THAT MEANS IF THEY LIVE TOO FAR FROM A BUS, YOU KNOW, PALM BAY, IT'S PALM BAY IS SO BIG, YOU GOT SOME DEAD ZONES THAT WE CAN'T EVEN WE DON'T HAVE BUSSES.

SO THAT MAKES THEM QUALIFY BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE NEAR BUS.

THEY MAKES THEM QUALIFIED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DRIVE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DISABLED.

IT'S JUST TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED.

AWESOME PROGRAM AND VOLUNTEERS IN MOTION IS FOR IT'S FOR.

ADULTS THAT THEY LIVE ALONE, BUT THEY STILL LIVE ALONE, BUT THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE PARATRANSIT SIDE OF IT.

SO THE VOLUNTEERS COME IN AND IT'S SMALLER VEHICLES.

IT'S MORE OF A ONE ON ONE.

THEY HELP THEM WITH THE GROCERY SHOPPING.

THEY SIT WITH THEM AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE IF THEY WANT.

THESE ARE SENIORS THAT HAS NO ONE BUT THAT VOLUNTEER THAT THEY SEE ONCE A WEEK OR TWICE A WEEK. SO THEY BECOME A FRIENDSHIP THING.

SO YOU'D HAVE VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE.

AND DO YOU GO TO VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND MAKE THESE TYPE OF PRESENTATIONS? YES, I'M I'M CONSTANTLY TRYING TO RECRUIT VOLUNTEERS FOR VOLUNTEERS IN MOTION.

I'M CONSTANTLY DOING IT.

YOU WORK WITH TWO, ONE, ONE, LIKE TO GET REFERRALS OR.

YES, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.

WE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH SATELLITE BEACH.

THE VOLUNTEERS. THE SATELLITE BEACH ONLY WANTS TO HELP SENIORS IN SATELLITE BEACH, BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES THAT WE PARK AT A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY DON'T MIND HAVING A PARK THERE.

AND THE VOLUNTEERS GO THERE TO PICK UP THE VANS BECAUSE THEY'RE USING OUR VANS.

THEY'RE NOT USING THEIR OWN VEHICLES.

AND SHE'S WORKING ON A PARTNERSHIP WITH COCOA BEACH.

THERE'S A COCOA BEACH.

THERE'S A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A LOT OF SENIORS AND STUFF.

SO SHE'S WORKING ON THAT.

SO THAT ONE IS GOING TO HAVE, I THINK, ONE OR TWO VANS.

THEY ONLY WANT TO SERVE THE SENIORS IN THE COCOA BEACH AREA, WHICH IS GREAT, AND BE FAB SO THAT THEY ONLY WANT TO DEAL WITH THEIR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS STILL GREAT BECAUSE IT KIND OF RELIEVES THE OTHER SECTIONS OF BARBARA COUNTY.

SO WE TRY TO YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FOR VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE IT'S 100% VOLUNTEER BASE.

THERE'S ONLY TWO EMPLOYEES AS BEING PAID.

THE REST ARE VOLUNTEERS.

YOUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, APPROXIMATELY, OR SAY FOR PALM BEACH, APPROXIMATELY WHAT PERCENT SAY UP.

IF SERVICE. LET ME ASK IT A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO. SO I CAN.

I CAN ANSWER IT THIS WAY, SIR.

SO OUT OF THE 23 FIXED ROUTE THAT WE HAVE, FIVE OF THOSE ARE IN PALM BAY.

THEY SERVICE THE AREA OF PALM BAY.

ONE OF THOSE IS THE MELBOURNE PALM BAY CONNECTION.

THE CONNECTOR THAT COMES FROM MELBOURNE SQUARE MALL GOES THROUGH KIND OF WEST MELBOURNE

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FIT AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S A REALLY THAT'S PROBABLY THE BUSIEST ROUTE DOWN HERE DOWN SOUTH.

SO THAT ROUTE ALONE CAN HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 2000 TO 3500 PASSENGERS A DAY.

YOU KNOW, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

AND THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER ROUTES THAT TRAVERSE MALABAR ROAD, WE GO THROUGH DOWN EMERSON ROAD, AND THEN OUR NEWEST ONE IN PALM BAY IS ROUTE 20 THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT SERVICES HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT.

HERE IT IS. HIGH SCHOOL WASN'T THE MAIN FOCUS AS MUCH AS IT WAS FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS AT PROMISE IN REGARD TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE GOODWILL OUT AT 95 AND 192 BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO THEIR TRAINING CENTER.

AND THEY CAN GO TO WORK AND THEN THEY CAN THEY CAN GIVE THEM TRANSPORTATION FROM THERE TO OTHER GOODWILL'S AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WHEN WE EXPAND ROUTES, NOT ONLY IS IT FROM PUBLIC COMMENT AND REQUESTS, BUT WE LOOK AT WHO ARE WE ACTUALLY SERVING, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO BOUND BY TITLE SIX, TITLE SIX AS WELL.

IF I BUY LIKE OUR NEW HYBRID DIESEL ELECTRIC BUS, IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT IT CAN'T JUST GO IN VIERA, RIGHT? SO ONE IS IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE AND ONE GOES UP AND DOWN COURTNEY PARKWAY AND MERRITT ISLAND. SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE LOOK AT WHEN WE WHEN WE DO SERVICE.

THEY'RE IN THE PLAN TO GROW THE.

SERVICE. DO YOU FEEL THAT MORE RESIDENTS, BASED ON THE TRENDS, ARE REQUIRING THIS TYPE OF SERVICE? YEAH, WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO EXPAND SERVICE, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH PALM BAY.

WE KNOW IT'S A CONSTRUCTION YOU GUYS HAVE GOING DOWN THERE SOUTH OF COGAN AND IT'S JUST CRAZY. IT'S BLOWN UP DOWN THERE.

BUT CURRENTLY OUR ISSUES ARE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, MONEY AND EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW.

SO WE'VE STARTED GETTING THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR EXPANSION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'RE 22 DRIVERS SHORT RIGHT NOW.

BREVARD COUNTY ITSELF, IF YOU GO ON THEIR WEBSITE, HAS 350 JOB OPENINGS.

IT'S LIKE OUT OF 850 EMPLOYEES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT YOU GUYS ARE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS.

EVERYBODY DISAPPEARED.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO EXPAND.

WE JUST EXPANDED TWO YEARS AGO IN PORT SAINT JOHN AND IN TITUSVILLE BECAUSE WE HAVE ROUTES THAT COVERED THE THE EXTERIOR OF US ONE AND ALL THE WAY UP TO MIMS. BUT WE HAD NOTHING ON THE INTERIOR AND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH, IT'S A TRANSIT DESERT.

SO NOW WE HAVE SERVICE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS GROWING SLOWLY.

AND WE UNDERSTAND IN ABOUT 20 THAT THAT SERVICE'S HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT LOOP, IT'S SLOW GROWING, BUT IT'S GETTING THERE, YOU KNOW? AND THIS WAS AFTER A SET SCHEDULE, CORRECT? YES. AND FIND THOSE SCHEDULES ON YOUR WEBSITE.

ABSOLUTELY. THE 3 TO 1 TRANSIT APP YOU CAN GO ON THERE.

AND IF YOU'RE STANDING AT A BUS STOP OUT FRONT HERE WHERE WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUS SHELTER, THE CITY OF PALM BAY BUILT, AND YOU HIT YOUR LOCATION.

SO THE ROUTE 22 AND THE ROUTE 23, SERVICE THAT BUS UP.

IT'LL TELL YOU, YOU PICK A ROUTE AND IT'LL TELL YOU.

YOU CAN SEE IT ACTUALLY MOVE ON A MAP OF WHERE IT'S AT, WHEN IT'LL BE THERE, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT WE'VE MADE IN THE 11 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS FLORIDA, RIGHT? THE WEATHER SO INCLEMENT THAT IT'S EITHER 120 DEGREES OUT STANDING NEXT TO A HIGHWAY OR IT'S POURING DOWN RAIN, AND THEN YOU GET ON THE BUS AND YOU'RE FREEZING OR YOUR BOSS SAYS, HEY, CAN YOU STAY ANOTHER 10 MINUTES? NO, I GOT TO GO. I COULD CATCH THE BUS.

OH, HOLD ON. OH, WELL, IT'S RUNNING LATE.

FOR SOME REASON. IT WON'T BE HERE FOR 15 MINUTES.

YOU CAN STAY A LITTLE LONGER.

SO THAT'S A REALLY GREAT THING THAT WE DO.

THEN YOU CAN ALSO DO THINGS LIKE THE TRIP PLANNER AND STUFF TO WHERE YOU CAN LOOK UP THE NEAREST BUS STOP TO YOUR HOUSE.

AND LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO GO TO THE OAKS PLAZA IN MELBOURNE AND GO TO THE MOVIES.

IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT ROUTES YOU NEED TO TAKE, HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE YOU TO GET THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THE FULL FARE FOR FIXER OUT IS A DOLLAR 15, REDUCE FARE FOR LIKE SENIOR CITIZENS AND VETERANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

75 CENT AND THEN ALL EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE STUDENTS WITH A A LIBRARY CARD AND ID CARD RIDE FOR FREE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, ANY TIME.

AND I KNOW THIS IS A BIT OF A REACH BECAUSE IT GOES OUTSIDE OF BREVARD COUNTY.

SORRY. HAVE YOU ALL EVER CONSIDERED CHARGING ANY FARE TO GET TO AND FROM MCO TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OVER THERE? YEAH, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH OSCEOLA COUNTY, WITH LINKS WITH ORANGE COUNTY.

THE PROBLEM IS, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO TURN AROUND A 40 FOOT TRANSIT BUS RIDE IF YOU DON'T GO ALL THE WAY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO MEET? WEDGE FILLED BETH LO SOMEPLACE ON 192.

AND IT'S SUCH AGAIN, THE TRANSIT DESERT OUT THERE.

THERE'S NO TRIP GENERATORS IN BETWEEN.

AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS GENERALLY FUNDED BY SERVICE PER MILE, NOT REALLY SERVICE PER HOUR. SO YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING ALL THESE MILES, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU ACTUALLY PICKING UP AND DROPPING OFF IN BETWEEN?

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SO THEY DON'T LIKE THE DEADHEAD ROUTES? AND THAT'S A REAL ISSUE FOR US OVER ON THE WEST COAST, PINELLAS ST PEACE AND SAINT PETE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HEART OR THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB.

BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO FROM ONE CITY TO ANOTHER CITY TO ANOTHER CITY TO ANOTHER CITY, AND THERE'S NOT THOSE BIG GAPS LIKE WE HAVE BETWEEN HERE AND ORLANDO OR OSCEOLA COUNTY.

DO YOU PROMOTE YOUR SERVICE? WE PROMOTE OUR SERVICE, AS YOU SAW ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE ALSO WORK REALLY WELL WITH CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOORS THAT SELLS ALL THE MARKETING REPS ON OUR BUSSES. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE BILLBOARDS ON 95 WITH THEM.

NOW THAT EVERY ONE OF THEM SAY HELP ONE.

AND WE HAVE A JOB FAIR THIS THURSDAY AT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUILDING.

YEAH. AND WE HAVE THE SIGNS AND STUFF UP IN OUR BUSSES AND PRETTY MUCH ANY, ANY PUBLIC SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS, ANY WAY WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT.

CARMEN AND I IN THE PAST HAVE DONE ROTARY CLUBS.

WE'VE DONE SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS, LIKE AT THE FOUNTAINS AND OTHER RETIREMENT HOMES, ASSISTED LIVING HOMES.

I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY THAT WILL INVITE US WILL BE THERE.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO INVITE YOU GUYS TO GIVE US, DO THE.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T WANT TO INVITE YOU GUYS TO COME.

I'LL LEAVE A STACK OF MY BUSINESS CARDS ON THERE WITH FRANK, OR YOU GUYS CAN EMAIL US THROUGH 3 TO 1 TRANSCOM ANYTIME YOU GO INTO EMAIL THERE.

THERE'S A COMMENTS, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND ALL OF US UPPER MANAGEMENT GET WHATEVER COMES THROUGH THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE EIGHT OF US THAT SEE THAT.

SO ONE OF US WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

AND THEN TWO QUESTIONS.

WIDESPREAD QUESTION HOW COMPETITIVE ARE THE SALARIES? ARE THEY LISTED ONLINE OR DO PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT THROUGH THEY SO THEY GO THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT FOR THE SALARIES TO BECOME A LIKE A BUS DRIVER. SOME BREVARD COUNTY LISTS THEY LIST THAT ON SUCCESS FACTORS WHEN YOU GO IN AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WE WERE CLEVER ENOUGH THROUGH 3 TO 1 TRANSIT DOT COM. IF YOU GO TO CONNECT WITH US AND IT SAYS JOBS YOU CAN CONNECT THERE AND IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GO STRAIGHT TO ALL BREVARD COUNTY JOBS THAN IT IS TO ACTUALLY GO TO BREVARD COUNTY BEACH. AND IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SO HARD, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO TO GET TO SEE WHAT JOBS ARE POSTED.

AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION ARE WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE VOLUNTEERS? VOLUNTEERS. THE ONLY QUALIFICATION IS A CLEAN DRIVER'S RECORD AND BACKGROUND.

WE DO EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND SCREENING BECAUSE THESE ARE SENIORS THAT ARE PROTECTED.

SO WE DO THE CHILDREN AND FAMILY DCF TYPE OF SCREENING AS LONG AS THEY COME CLEAN, CLEAN DRIVER'S LICENSE. YOU GOT TO GO.

I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.

THE CITY OF MELBOURNE PROVIDES AN ANNUAL GRANT TO SCOTT, WHICH I THINK IT'S ONLY LIKE $50,000 A YEAR, BUT IT MAKES IT SO THAT MELBOURNE RESIDENTS CAN RIDE THE BUS FOR FREE.

THEY DON'T PAY THE BUS FARE AS LONG AS THEY'RE ON ONE OF THE MELBOURNE INTERNAL ROUTES AS THE CITY OF PALM BAY. EVER CONSIDERED DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT? OKAY. I THINK MELBOURNE HAS A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT UTILIZE THAT.

THEY THEY THE FREE ROUTES ARE OUT 24, 21 AND 29 WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF MELBOURNE.

THEY JUST SHOW AN ID THAT IT'S A MELBOURNE ADDRESS AND THEY JUST RIDE FOR FREE.

CORRECT. THEY THEY THEY GIVE US THE 50,000.

IT'S A $50,000 GRANT, YOU KNOW, IT STILL HELPS.

YEAH. IS THAT.

I'M SORRY? THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE MASTERS ARE SENIORS AND MOSTLY COME FROM THE TOWERS DOWNTOWN. YES.

IT'S A GRANT FROM THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.

WE CALL IT A GRANT, BUT THEY SIGN A GRANT AGREEMENT EVERY YEAR AND THEY DO IT ANNUALLY AT THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

HMM. YEP.

AND IT'S THE SAME GRANT THAT WE GET FROM EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE FOR THEIR STUDENTS TO RIDE FOR FREE, WHICH IS WHY THIS SEASON IN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE IS NOT FIT.

BUT IF I TEACH STUDENTS, SHOW THEIR STUDENT ID CARD, THEY WRITE FOR FAIR.

SO WE TRY AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE FREE FOR EVERYBODY, OF COURSE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE TRY AND WORK WITH ANYBODY WE CAN.

WE'RE OPEN TO IT.

YOU KNOW, BRING UP THE SUGGESTION.

WE'LL MEET, WE'LL HELP YOU GUYS GET THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW. SO A LOT MORE PEOPLE WOULD USE IT IF IT WAS FREE.

AND IF IT WAS EASY, IT IS EASY NOW, BUT.

AND IT'S CHEAP NOW. BUT IF YOU TOLD SOMEBODY YOU COULD RIDE THE BUS FOR FREE.

ESPECIALLY. SO MY QUESTION I DON'T I DON'T KNOW VERY PARTICULAR ROUTES HAVE THAT BUT ARE THOSE ROUTES THAT ARE CLOSE TO OR PASS THROUGH THE LOWER INCOME AREA NEIGHBORHOODS? YES. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT TO ME, THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID SENIORS AND STUDENTS GET TO USE IT, BUT I'M THINKING PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT EMPLOYMENT BUT MAY NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO IT FROM PARTICULAR AREAS.

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THAT'S A GREAT BENEFIT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER TO SAY, HEY, YOU WANT TO WORK, WE CAN GET YOU TO AND FROM WORK FOR FREE.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

EXACTLY. AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY FUNDS IT BECAUSE NOT JUST.

YEAH. YEAH THEY AREN'T, THEY'RE MELBOURNE ONLY ROUTES.

SO I THINK THERE'S ONE ROUTE YOU PROBABLY MENTIONED IT, THAT'S MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY AND THAT ROUTE IS NOT ONE.

WE WOULD GET CALLS DURING SUMMER FOR KIDS THAT WERE GOING TO LIKE CAMP.

UNIVERSITY AREA AND THEY NEEDED TO BE ON THAT BUS ROUTE THAT GOES THROUGH BOMBAY AND IT WASN'T COVERED. BUT IN THAT CASE WE WERE ABLE TO HELP THEM BECAUSE IT WAS.

AND THEY COULD SHOW THE STUDENT ID AND GET THE.

BUT NOT ALL THE ROUTES.

HE. YES.

THAT COULD BE 25 AND 27.

YEAH. AND THEN WE HAD THE ROUTE 29 THAT WE GOT HIM TO DO THE LAST TIME.

THE ROUTE 29 IS VERY SPECIAL BECAUSE IT CONNECTS WITH ALL THOSE ROUTES AT THE MELBOURNE, ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND IT TRAVELS ALL THE WAY TO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER WHERE IT MEETS WITH THE ROUTE ONE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO TITUSVILLE.

SO THEORETICALLY, ANYBODY IN THE CITY LIMITS HIM OVER AND CAN GET ON THAT BUS, SHOW THEIR ID AND RIDE ALL THE WAY TO MIMS BECAUSE WE DO TRANSFERS.

SO JUST BECAUSE YOU RIDE IN THE FREE BUS WHEN YOU GET OFF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE NEXT BUS. SO YOU GET A TRANSFER AND YOU CAN GET ON ROUTE ONE AND GO ALL THE WAY TO TITUS LEANING AND YOU GET EN ROUTE TO ROUTE FIVE AND GO INTO TITUSVILLE OR GO ALL THE WAY TO MIMS. HAVE YOU ALL ORBIT IN FRONT OF OUR IN FRONT OF OUR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THAT POSSIBILITY AS IT RELATES TO.

WE WOULD.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE. WE WOULD HAVE TO.

YES. OKAY.

GOTCHA. WE'RE BOUND BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, SO.

BUT IF SOMEBODY WAS, I COULD BEG EVERYBODY.

I WOULD BE BEGGING, BECAUSE I REALLY WE REALLY BELIEVE IN WHAT WE DO.

YOU KNOW, WE HELP AND REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED HELP.

YOU KNOW, WE GO AS FAR AS DURING THE SUMMER.

WE DO A READER RIDE PROGRAM WITH OUR COUNTY LIBRARIES, ANY SCHOOL AGE KID, 18 AND UNDER SHOWS, A BREVARD COUNTY LIBRARY CARD.

THEY CAN RIDE THE BUSSES ALL SUMMER LONG FOR FREE AND GO TO THE BEACH.

THEY CAN GO TO THE MALL, YOU KNOW.

THEY'LL GO TO THE SCHOOLS.

SUPER COOL. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

AND I WAS GOING TO ASK, DO YOU ALL DO ANY DO YOU EVER PARTNER WITH ANY OF THE COMMUNITIES TO DO LIKE RIDE ALONG DAYS? BECAUSE I KNOW PREVIOUSLY WHEN I USED TO LIVE DOWN SOUTH PLANTATION USED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR TRANSIT TRANSIT WHERE THEY WOULD CHOOSE A DAY AND A TIME.

AND THE PARENTS CAN BRING THE KIDS AND KIND OF TAKE THEM AROUND ON THE DIFFERENT ROUTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THEM TO GET THE BUS EXPERIENCE.

AND SURE, WE DO TRAVEL TRAINING, WE OFFER TRAVEL TRAINING, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

PROJECT SEARCH THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WORK HERE IN CITY HALL.

WE COME DOWN USUALLY ONCE A YEAR AND WE TAKE ALL THE KIDS OUT.

WE TAKE THEM FOR A BUS RIDE, WE SHOW THEM HOW THE FAIR WORKS, HOW THE TRANSFERS WORK.

I MEAN, WHEN I SAY ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS CALL, WE REALLY MEAN IT SINCERELY BECAUSE WE THE BETTER WE CAN GET OUT THERE AND EDUCATE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY. AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT RIDERSHIP FOR US.

IT'S MORE ABOUT SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY HERE FOR.

WE REALLY CARE.

AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY OUR THING.

SO IF YOU SHOOT US AN EMAIL OR A PHONE CALL OR SOMETHING, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT OR NOT. YOU KNOW.

AND IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL FIND SOMEONE THAT'LL HELP YOU OUT.

YES. YOU KNOW, IT'S SO IT'S FUNNY YOU EVEN SAY THAT BECAUSE.

IF LET'S SAY WE GET LIKE SUPER EXCITED AND WE GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, MAN, WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS TYPE OF GRANT AND OTHER PEOPLE FOLLOW SUIT.

WHICH YOU PUT OUT A WEIRD QUESTION LIKE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND IF IT ACTUALLY SHOT UP? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A SHORTAGE RIGHT NOW AS IT IS.

OKAY. WHICH IS. I LIKE THAT.

WHICH IS BY A BIGGER BUS.

IT'S I CAN BUY BUSSES, I CAN'T BUY EMPLOYEES, AND I CAN'T GIVE THEM RAISES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE WORKING GRANTS, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN GET OPERATIONS, YOU CAN GET CAPITAL, YOU CAN GET EVERYTHING BUT SALARIES AND PAY THOSE SALARIES.

NO SALARIES, YOU KNOW.

AND YEAH, WE WOULD BE FULLY CAPABLE TO HANDLE THAT BECAUSE THE WAY OUR ROUTES ARE STRUCTURED AND THE WAY WE WORK WITH THE TPO AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS FOR OUR LONG TERM TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT PLANNING.

SO KNOW WE'RE READY FOR THAT.

WE'RE READY FOR ROUTE 20.

I'LL KEEP BRINGING UP ROUTE 23.

WE'RE READY FOR IT TO BLOW UP AND FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE WHAT A GREAT SERVICE THEY HAVE.

KIND OF STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE ON THAT STRETCH OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, YOU KNOW, OH TWENTIES, WE'RE ABOUT 20 GOES FROM HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL TO THE MELBOURNE SQUARE MALL, COMES BACK DOWN 192 DOWN MILTON ROAD SOUTH TO MALABAR ROAD AND GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS MALABAR ROAD. SO IF YOU JUST THINK OF THAT BIG PATCH OF LAND AND IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THE I GUESS THE AIRPORT AND EVERYTHING IS THAT THAT AIRFORCE BASE, IT'S LIKE A BIG

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UGLY BOX.

BUT WE COVER A LOT OF AREA, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LOW INCOME AS WELL AS PEOPLE WITH MEDIUM INCOME. WE COVER THE SCHOOLS AND THE GOODWILL AND CHUCKY CHEESE AND ACROSS FROM GOODWILL IS THE GREYHOUND BUS STATION AND THE GAS STATION THERE.

SO WE KIND OF HELP PEOPLE WITH THAT TO.

I SEE YOU. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IN HERE, YOUR WEBSITE.

YOU'RE UP WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS BUT YOU SPEAK A LOT ABOUT YOU DO FOR SENIORS.

DO YOU FIND SENIORS, ALLIES IN YOUR OFFICE AS A YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC? NOT SO MUCH.

NOT SO MUCH. THAT'S WHY, AS CARMEN STATED, IF THEY CALL IN, IF THEY SEND, GET SOMEONE, USUALLY IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER OR A LOVED ONE OR A CARETAKER.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU GET BORED ONE DAY AND GO TO, LIKE JACKSONVILLE TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT IT TAKES TO SIGN UP FOR THEIR DEMAND RESPONSE SERVICE, IT'S LIKE A 20 PAGE APPLICATION.

OURS IS SERIOUSLY A PAGE AND A HALF.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MONEY GENERATOR.

IT REALLY ISN'T. RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE CARMEN SAID, WE'LL SIGN YOU UP.

WE'LL SIGN THE SENIOR UP, WE'LL SEND YOU THE APPLICATION.

WE'LL GET YOU GOING. SHE WAS WORKING ON ONE THIS MORNING.

THE CLIENT WAS FROM TEXAS.

AND THEY COME OVER AND THEY SAY, HEY, I'M IN DALLAS.

I RIDE WITH DART DALLAS AREA, RAPID TRANSIT.

YOU KNOW, HERE'S MY APPLICATION.

WHEN I'M THERE FOR THREE WEEKS, I GOT TO GO TO DIALYSIS, YOU KNOW? CAN YOU GIVE ME RIGHT? YEAH, SURE.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT SCHEDULED AND EVERYTHING BEFORE WE GOT THE ACTUAL APPLICATION DONE.

BRINK. THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU.

YOU KNOW, I SPENT A LARGE MAJORITY OF MY ADULT LIFE LIVING IN, LIKE, CITY CITIES.

AND SO WITH US, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE YOU GO.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE BUS ROUTES, LIKE THERE'S TYPICALLY LIKE A BUS ROAD THAT LIKE THE LITTLE SIDE THAT GOES OFF SO THAT THE BUS CAN STOP.

IT LEADS INTO AND LEADS OUT OF.

IS THAT MORE JUST THE DESIGN THAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT OR HOW DOES THAT SHOW UP WITH.

YEAH, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND I COME FROM IRVINE.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT VERY.

BUT WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT BUS STOPS, YOU GOT BUS PLOTS, BUT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT'S LIKE PARALLEL BUS CORRIDORS OR QUEUE JUMPERS. AND THESE THINGS ARE IN THE METROPOLITAN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE MAXING OUT IN THEIR STREETS. THEY TURN ALL THE STREETS INTO ONE WAY STREETS INTO COUPLETS.

AND NOW THEY HAVE TO USE THAT TO LEVERAGE TRANSIT.

AND THEY HAVE TRANSIT SERVICES THAT ARE IN HIGH DEMAND.

SO THEY HAVE TO GET ON SCHEDULE.

SO THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE ROADWAY, A SEPARATE CORRIDOR OR A QUEUE JUMPER TO GET THEM GOING AWAY FROM THE CONGESTED AREAS.

BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY GET STUCK AT THE INTERSECTIONS.

AND AS THE INTERSECTIONS GET BUILT UP DURING THE PEAK TIMES, THOSE BUSSES CAN'T MEET THEIR HEAD WAIT SCHEDULES.

SO YOU GET TO GIVE THEM A KIND OF LIKE AN AREA THAT TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS A QUEUE JUMPER IS, IS A RIGHT TURN LANE.

BUT DURING PEAK HOURS, BUSSES COULD USE IT.

SO THEY PULL IN, THE GREEN LIGHT GOES ONLY FOR THE BUS.

HE TAKES OFF AND GETS AHEAD OF THE PACK.

THAT'S HOW THEY WORK IN URBANIZED AREAS.

YEAH, WELL AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS AND THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS LIKE, WELL, IT'S SAFER BECAUSE IT'S FULL TO THE SIDE.

YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE A BIG CITY, BUT WE'RE NOT A URBANIZED, A BUSY ONE OUT OF NEW YORK, CHICAGO, SAN FRANCISCO.

I MEAN, THOSE THINGS. I MEAN, YOU GREW UP, YOU MISSED ONE BUS.

YOU JUST CROSS OVER TO THE NEXT STREET OVER THE NEXT ROUND.

YOU'RE ALL RUNNING PARALLEL HERE.

IF YOU MISSED A BUS HERE ONE HOUR, YEAH, YOU MIGHT AS WELL CALL AN UBER AT THIS POINT.

AND I CAN SUM IT UP FOR YOU REAL QUICK.

IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING ORANGE COUNTY AND THEIR GAS TAX FOR TRANSPORTATION, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. AND I'M SURE THE RESIDENTS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY WOULD.

WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ALL OUT OF A JOB IF WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT A 2% GAS TAX TO IMPROVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 98% OF THE PEOPLE DRIVE.

YOU GUYS ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE 70% OF THE COUNTY SOUTH OF PINEDO LIVING HERE IN YOUR AREA. YOU KNOW, SO YOU START WEIGHING THAT OUT.

EVERYONE DRIVES TO TITUSVILLE TO WORK.

THEY DRIVE. AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THE VAN POLE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM, THE VAN POLL PROGRAM WITH COMMUTE WITH ENTERPRISE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE AROUND.

I CALL IT THE BIG PINK WAL-MART ON MALABAR ROAD.

BUT YOU SEE YOU SEE THESE BIG WHITE WITH BLUE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF VANS OUT THERE.

THOSE ARE OUR VAN FULL VANS.

WE DID UP TO 15 PASSENGER VANS AND THAT'S PEOPLE THAT WORK AT NASA AND KENNEDY SPACE CENTER AND PLACES LIKE THAT.

AND WE WORK WELL, ACTUALLY COMMUTE WITH ENTERPRISE WOULD WORK WITH THEIR H.R.

ORGANIZATIONS, SET THEM UP AND THEY WOULD ALL PARK THERE AT WAL-MART.

THEY'D GET IN THE VAN AND THEY WOULD THEY WOULD DRIVE UP TO THE CAPE.

SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT THAT WE CAN DO THAT ARE ON A SMALLER SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, SMALLER SCALE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE LEASING THE VANS.

SO WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS ALL THE TIME AND CALLED, YOU KNOW, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS AND STUFF. HEY, WE NEED A WE NEED A RIDE FROM HERE DOWN TO THE POLE AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE

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COLLEGE IN MELBOURNE. WELL, WE CAN'T PROVIDE SHUTTLE SERVICES BECAUSE THERE'S BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY THAT AREN'T FEDERALLY FUNDED THAT COULDN'T COMPETE, YOU KNOW, SO WE HOOK THEM UP WITH PLACES LIKE ENTERPRISE OR WE JUST HOOK THEM UP WITH BTM.

YOU KNOW, BILL'S A GREAT GUY AND HE'S BEEN IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME. YOU KNOW, YOUR SERVICE IS ONLY IN THE BREVARD COUNTY AREA.

YES, SIR. I WORK WITH THE NEWLY FOUNDED MILITARY SPOUSE ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT ZONE BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE NAME. BUT THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO HELP MILITARY SPOUSES FIND WORK BECAUSE THERE'S A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF UNEMPLOYMENT FOR MILITARY SPOUSES WHO WON'T WORK.

BUT A PART OF THAT IS ALSO A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE AT TIMES.

SO I'M CURIOUS, LIKE, ARE YOU ALL ALREADY PARTNERED WITH BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE YET.

AGAIN, THIS THIS THIS WAS JUST LAUNCHED LAST WEEK.

BUT YOUR PARTNER WITH PATRICK IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FASHION OR.

NO, WITH PATRICK, WHAT WE DO DO WITH PATRICK AND YOU GUYS ASK ABOUT BREVARD ACHIEVEMENT CENTER EARLIER IS WE DO TRANSPORT QUITE A FEW SPECIAL NEEDS ARE FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, KIDS, WE CALL THEM KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN TRAINED A JOB AT BREVARD ACHIEVEMENT CENTER, AND WE TAKE THEM TO PATRICK AND THEY DO JOBS LIKE RECYCLING.

YOU KNOW, THEY WORK A BIG CRUSH OR CRUSHING DRUMS AFTER THEY CLEAN THEM OUT.

CANAVERAL AIR STATION, KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, NASSAU.

WE WE DO OFFER THOSE INDIVIDUALS TRANSPORTATION TO THOSE PLACES.

SO IF THERE IS A NEED, I GUESS IT WOULD BE I CAN PUT THEM IN CONTACT WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S MORE OF A IF YOU HAVE GROUPS OF PEOPLE. YEAH. THE REALLY COOL THING, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE VERY FEW COOL THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF COVID WAS, YOU KNOW, ENTERPRISES FIND IT HARD TO TO HAVE AMPLE PROGRAM WITH 15 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RIDE AN HOUR AND A HALF OR 2 HOURS RIGHT AFTER COVID.

SO WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THEM IS THEY'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT MORE OF THEIR ACTUAL ENTERPRISE RENTAL CARS WHERE THEY CAN OFFER LIKE FOR PASSENGER VEHICLES AND WHICH ARE LIKE HAND SONATAS AND, YOU KNOW, FORD EXPLORERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS BIG GIANT VAN WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE IN IT BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO RIDE IN THAT LARGER GROUP ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, SO THE MORE WE CAN GET THAT NARROWED DOWN, THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR YOU GUYS OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, FOR PATRICK OR OR ANY OF THE MILITARY HOUSING INSTALLATIONS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT BIG GROUP TO MEET THE CRITERIA TO GET THE CONTRACT, WHICH YOU PAY ONE MONTHLY FEE.

AND IT'S BASICALLY A RENTAL CAR.

THEY PAY THE INSURANCE, THEY PAY THE MAINTENANCE.

YOU PUT GAS IN IT.

THAT'S IT. I MEAN, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS NEW VEHICLES.

WE'RE ALWAYS BUYING THEM. I BUY THEM WITH FEDERAL GRANT MONEY.

A GROUP OF SENIORS, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE I'M A PART OF AN ERP.

A GROUP OF SENIORS SAID THEY WANT TO GO TO A MOVIE.

YOU OFFER THAT TYPE OF SERVICE FOR SENIORS.

JUST MAKE IT. THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE RESERVATION, WHAT TIME THEY NEED TO BE THERE AND WHAT TIME THEY WANT TO COME HOME.

AND THEY DO THE HAIRDRESSERS BEING GOING TO MAKE THE RESERVATION.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE A RESERVATION ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, RIGHT NOW.

WE BOUGHT TECHNOLOGY THAT SUPPOSED TO WORK AND IT'S NOT WORKING.

SO WE TRYING TO GET REPLACEMENT.

A REPLACEMENT, I KNOW.

YEAH, THEY PROBABLY WILL.

YEAH. SO IF IF YOU KNOW ANY SENIORS, ANYBODY WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, DISABILITIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU BROUGHT UP TWO, ONE, ONE.

ENCOURAGE THEM TO REGISTER WITH 211 ON OUR SPECIAL NEEDS EVACUATION LIST.

LIKE I SAID, WE MAKE OVER 10,000 PHONE CALLS BECAUSE THE 3100 FOLKS THAT ARE ON THAT EVACUATION LIST, WE HAVE TO CALL THEM THREE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE A HURRICANE OR EMERGENCY OR ANYTHING. AND IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO EVACUATE ALL THOSE PEOPLE TO A SHELTER.

AND YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW WHAT THE EMERGENCY IS GOING TO BE.

PEOPLE GET STUCK ON HURRICANES.

WE'VE BEEN REALLY LUCKY THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH WILDFIRES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION YOU GUYS HAVE GOING ON IN PALM BAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT CRAZY TO THINK THAT YOU COULD BE IN TROUBLE WITH A WILDFIRE DOWN HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW.

HAVE THIS APPLY.

IF THEY NEED US, WE'RE HERE.

IF THEY DON'T NEED US, THAT'S GREAT, RIGHT? BUT IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO DO A TRIP, THEY WANT TO GO TO THE MOVIES, THEY WANT TO GO TO DINNER. THEY WANT THEY NEED TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.

AND LET'S SAY THEY HAVE ONE CAR AND THEIR LOVED ONE HAS TO GO TO WORK THAT DAY.

THAT'S THE STUFF THAT WE PROVIDE.

THE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR CARD SO I CAN ARRANGE IT FOR YOU GUYS.

MY GROUP MEETS ONCE PER MONTH.

CONCERNING THE SENIOR SERVICES THAT.

OKAY. THAT'D BE GREAT.

I MEAN, I CAN EVEN HOOK UP A BUS.

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WE GO ON A BUS RIDE.

WE DO THAT. YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DO SO MUCH THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

CARMEN DOES THE HOME SCHOOL KIDS, YOU KNOW, WHICH HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE HOME SCHOOL, THEY HAVE TO GO AND VISIT SO MANY GOVERNMENT INSTALLATIONS A YEAR, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THEIR HOME SCHOOL. AND WE TAKE THEM FOR A RIDE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE CITIZENS ACADEMY. WE DO LIKE WE'RE LIKE, HI, FRIENDS.

YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY IT UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION ALL NIGHT.

SO I'VE WAITED TILL THE LAST BECAUSE I ALSO WANTED TO ASK YOU TO COME UP HERE OR DOWN HERE PURELY ON SELFISH REASONS.

WE WANT BETTER SERVICE IN OUR CITY, AND YOU'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THAT ALREADY, BUT I DID APPRECIATE IT, ALL OF YOUR THINGS.

I AM A DISABLED VETERAN, SO IN THE FUTURE I CAN SEE MYSELF.

YOU SHOULD IN THE SERVICE HEAVILY.

I WEAR A PROSTHETIC, I HAVE AN ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIR.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE INCORPORATED IN THE BUSSES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE LIKE ME. BUT ALL OF OUR BUSSES ARE WORKING.

EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, FIRST OF ALL.

BUT THE. I LIVE ON ROUTE 20 AND I'VE WATCHED IT GROW.

BUT JUST ONE STATEMENT GETTING BACK.

YOU KNOW, I ASKED YOU TO COME HERE WANTING BETTER BUS SERVICE.

WHAT CAN THE CITY DO TO.

FACILITATE. BETTER BUS STOPS, WHATEVER.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE I CRINGE EVERY TIME I GO PAST ONE OF OUR BUS STOPS AND IT'S NOT WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE. SO DO I.

SO DO I. AND FRANK CAN TELL YOU, WE WORK WITH ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES AND LIKE, WE JUST FINISHED A JOB IN SATELLITE BEACH.

I KNOW YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT SATELLITE BEACH BECAUSE IT'S OVER THERE, BUT IT TOOK US EIGHT YEARS. WE STARTED WITH 11 BUS SHELTERS WE WANTED TO PUT IN.

WE PAID FOR THEM. AND WE ENDED UP PUTTING IN FIVE.

BECAUSE OF DRAINAGE, BECAUSE OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

SO SO WHAT WE DO IS WE LIKE TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE FRANKS OF THE COUNTY AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT COMING UP.

AND THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY GOOD AND RESPONSIVE ABOUT GETTING WITH US, SAYING, OKAY, WHAT WHAT YOU HAVE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT ADA COMPLIANT? WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR OUR CITIZENS? AND THAT'S REALLY THE PAINSTAKING ANSWER THAT I HAVE TO GIVE YOU IS WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE CITIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT GROWTH OR DOT COME IN AND SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THE GROWTH. I MEAN, WE'RE HELD HOSTAGE JUST LIKE YOU GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE.

LANCE IS TALKING ABOUT IT.

THE CITY IS IN IS IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING UP A NEW BUS SHELTER BENCH PROGRAM.

WE'RE USING AN OUTSIDE VENDOR AND TERRY IS INVOLVED WITH THIS AND YOU'LL BE INVOLVED WITH THIS AS WELL. WE JUST HIRED WE JUST SELECTED THE THE FIRM.

AND SO THEY'RE STARTING SOME DIALOGS WITH SCOTT AND WITH OUR PEOPLE.

AND THE PROJECT'S GOING TO BE TO AND THEY'RE GOING TO COVER THE COST BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING AN ADVERTISEMENT ON THE BENCHES AND ON THE SHELTERS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IS MORE BENCHES, MORE SHELTERS AND ALL THESE BUS STOPS.

AT SAME TIME, WE'LL BE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THEY ALL MEET AS BEST AS WE CAN.

ADA FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND FOR HAVE A PAD AND LOCATIONS.

BUT THE CITY IS WORKING ON THAT PROJECT.

I'M NOT THE PROJECT MANAGER.

WE HAVE ANOTHER STAFF ENGINEER WHO'S WORKING ON IT, BUT I KNOW HE'S WORKED WITH AND COORDINATING WITH TERRY AND SCOTT AND THIS PROJECT WILL SOON BE TAKING FORWARD AND CONSTRUCTION. SO YOU WILL BE SEEING NEW BUS BENCHES, NEW SHELTERS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE STATE ADVERTISE IT ON IT THAT'S PAYING FOR THAT SERVICE AND THEY'RE GOING TO ALSO MAINTAIN THEM AS WELL.

SO NO LONGER WILL PUBLIC WORK HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND PICK UP TRASH AND MAINTAIN THEM.

THIS COMPANY WILL MAINTAIN THE BENCHES, THE SHELTERS AND THE BUS STOPS.

I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING THAT YOU DO THIS KIND OF WORK WITH ANY KIND OF FUNDING, GRANTS, ANYTHING THAT THE STATE HAS TO DO WITH IF YOU'RE DOING WORK IN A ROADWAY ANYWHERE AROUND OR AT A BUS STOP.

YOU HAVE TO LEAVE IT BETTER THAN WHAT IT WAS.

SO IF YOU'RE OUT ON PACE ROAD AND AS WELL WHERE A BUS STOP IS FOR ABOUT 23 AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO AN IMPROVEMENT THERE, A BENCH AND A CONCRETE PAD, IT HAS TO BECOME COMPLIANT OR YOU CAN'T DO IT. AND THAT'S PART OF WHERE HIS ENGINEERS AND PERMITTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT COME IN. QUESTION.

UM, OUTSIDE OF THE $50,000 THAT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE GIVES, ARE THERE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANY OTHER CITIES ARE DOING TO ASSIST YOU ALL IN ADVERTISING IN THEIR CITY OR TO MAKE IT MORE KNOWN IN THEIR CITY? IS THERE ANY OTHER THING AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LARGE CITIES BEFORE.

SO LARGE CITIES BEFORE THEY HAVE GAS TAXES.

THEY YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LINKS IN ORLANDO THAT GOES FROM ORANGE, OSCEOLA AND SEMINOLE COUNTY. THOSE COUNTIES IN THE CITIES THEY THAT THEY PROVIDE SERVICE TO, THEY ACTUALLY PAY. A THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IS BASICALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT PAYS BESIDES EASTERN FLORIDA

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STATE COLLEGE FOR BUS SERVICE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LITTLE FLUSTERED WHEN PEOPLE GO, I WANT BETTER SERVICE.

I WANT BETTER SERVICE IN THE CITY, OKAY? BUT I CAN'T SAY WHAT I WANT TO SAY WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

RIGHT. SO GRANTS PARTNERSHIPS, TRYING TO BE INVOLVED WITH THESE GUYS THAT MAKE THE FUTURE PLANNING. SO THAT WAY AT LEAST THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE NOW OR WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOWN THE ROAD, THAT WHEN WE GO TO IMPLEMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE SWELLS AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND STUFF THAT ARE IN A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE A REALLY GREAT BUS STOP, YOU KNOW.

AND THEN UNLIKE THAT ROUTE T FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE CREATING OR NOT CREATING, THEY'RE RATHER BUILDING ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS.

AS YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD, DO YOU ALL HAVE THE IDEA TO EXPAND MORE STOPS DOWN THAT ROAD? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TO 192 LATELY, BUT THAT IS A HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. YEAH. SO YEAH, ALL OF THAT BECOMES PART OF THE PLANNING.

WHEN WE STARTED PLANNING THAT ROUTE, WHAT, SIX YEARS AGO DUE TO THE FACEBOOK PAGE OF HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL AND LIKE EIGHT PEOPLE, 800 PEOPLE SIGN UP ON THIS PAGE.

WE WANT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AT THIS PART OF PALM BAY OUT IN THE COUNTY.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT ALSO HELPS US SELL TO OUR BOARD. YOU KNOW, NOT JUST WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, BECAUSE IF THEY LOOKED AT IT SIX YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED PLANNING THIS, PASTORS, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S A BIG HELP.

ANOTHER OPTION.

IF THE BUS STOPS ARE LOCATED IN A LOW, MODERATE INCOME AREA, THEY CAN BE ELIGIBLE FOR.

MELBOURNE PUT A SHELTER IN FRONT OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD AND ALLEN UNIVERSITY, CDBG FUNDS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION IS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE INTERNAL DEPARTMENT COULD APPLY FOR CDBG AND ACTUALLY I'M ON THAT CAN BE THE YEAH, I'M ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD AND UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T GET A LOT OF INTERNAL APPLICATIONS FROM OTHER CITY DEPARTMENT FOR THAT FUNDING.

AND SO EVERY YEAR IT'S KIND OF HARD BECAUSE IT WAS HARD AS SEBASTIAN WE USED TO LIKE I HAD TO LITERALLY REACH OUT TO OTHER CITIES IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF EVERY YEAR.

I'M LIKE, WHERE'S THE CITY PARKS AND REC EVERY YEAR? AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT BUS SHELTER, I THINK IT GOT VANDALIZED LIKE WITHIN A YEAR OF BEING PUT THERE. IT WAS IT WAS SAD, BUT WE'VE REBUILT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

IT DOESN'T THE AREA DOESN'T LAST LONG.

BUT YEAH, THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH CDBG.

SO THAT'S AN OPTION. IF PUBLIC WORKS IDENTIFIES A LOCATION WHERE THEY WANT TO UPGRADE TO A SHELTER, AN ADA IMPROVEMENT, THAT COULD BE A FUNDING SOURCE.

SO. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION.

I JUST JUST FOR MY OWN CURIOSITY.

HAVE YOU SEEN AN UPTICK IN RIDERSHIP WITH THE INCREASE IN GAS PRICES? YES. AND IS THAT GOING TO FORCE YOU TO.

ADD ADDITIONAL NOT NECESSARILY ROUTES, BUT BUSSES TO EXISTING ROUTES.

THE RIDERSHIP HAS COME BACK UP, BUT IT'S STILL NOT WHERE WE WERE IN 2019 BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC, RIGHTFULLY SO, THAT ARE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT BEING IN MOST SMALL CLOSED IN AREAS WITH A LOT OF STRANGERS, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE STILL OFFER FACE MASKS FOR ANYBODY ON THE ROUTE, ALTHOUGH THAT'S KIND OF I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THAT SINCE I'M BEING RECORDED.

BUT IF PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WEARING A MASK, WE'LL STILL GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, FACE MASKS, BUT WE'RE STILL NOT QUITE WHERE WE WERE IN 2019.

SO WE'RE MORE THAN CAPABLE TO HANDLE THE INFLUX OF PASSENGERS.

NO. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS.

BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO.

I GUESS AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE UTILIZING THE SERVICE FROM THE AREA.

BECAUSE WHEN I THINK ABOUT.

IF WE WERE TO SAY, HEY.

LIKE LET'S SAY I WANT TO GO TO COUNSELING, BE LIKE, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GRANT THAT WE SHOULD DO. IT WOULD BE GREAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THE QUESTION WOULD COME UP IS, WELL, HOW MANY OF OUR CITIZENS ARE ACTUALLY USING IT BEFORE WE WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION? IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT THE TRAVEL LOOKED LIKE IN MELBOURNE PRIOR TO AND THEN ONCE WE DID THIS, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.

SO IF YOU KIND OF IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME, YOU KNOW.

SO LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS WHAT IT WAS PRIOR TO AND THEN AFTER WE DID THIS.

NOW LOOK, THERE WAS AN UPTICK IN CITIZENS WHO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE SERVICE.

SURE. ALBERTANS HAD THAT GRANT FOR.

REALLY, REALLY LONG. I THINK WE'RE GOING ON 12 YEARS NOW I THINK.

AND THEY'VE ADDED TWO ROOTS.

YEAH. IT MIGHT BE REAL TO ADD A TWO ROUTES TO IT SINCE THEY SINCE THEY STARTED IT.

JUST THE DOWNTOWN ROUTE.

I GUESS YOU COULD PROBABLY SHOWCASE THEN THAT IT'S GROWN BECAUSE OF IT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT LIKE THIS IS WHAT IT WAS TO.

BUT. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

IT GREW TO THE POINT THAT AFTER THEY DID ROUTE 29, THEY ADDED ROUTE 24, WHICH ACTUALLY SERVICES THE WEST SIDE OF AURORA, WHERE MARY WOOD ESTATES IS IN THE MEADOWS TRAILER PARK, WHICH IS ALL LOW INCOME, BECAUSE THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE REALLY OUT AWAY FROM WICKHAM AND EVERYTHING REALLY FAR OUT THERE.

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AND THEY NEED THAT TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THE GROCERY STORE AND GET THE JOBS AND GET TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES.

WHAT OTHERS? I'LL LEAVE YOU GUYS MY CARD.

ANY QUESTIONS, ANY INFORMATION YOU WANT, WE CAN SEND YOU THE THE PRECISE INFORMATION OF ALL THE BUS ROUTES. THAT'S WHY WE GAVE YOU GUYS THE SYSTEM MAPS.

I CAN SEND YOU THE RIDERSHIP WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT, AND YOU CAN LOOK IN.

I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE PALM BAY ROUTES.

YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S PRIMARILY PALM BAY AND THEN I'LL HIGHLIGHT ALSO THE ROUTE 25, WHICH IS THE IT'LL SAY THE MELBOURNE PALM BAY CONNECTOR AND YOU CAN SEE HOW BUSY THAT IS.

THERE'S A TON OF TRIP.

WE HAVE TWO BUSSES ON THAT ROUTE THAT RUNS EVERY 30 MINUTES.

THAT'S HOW BUSY THAT ONE IS.

IT RUNS BACK AND FORTH.

SO ALL YOU GOTTA DO SHOOT ME AN EMAIL, WHATEVER YOUR REQUEST IS, AND WE'LL GET IT OUT TO YOU. OCH, OCH, OCH.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SUNSHINE.

OCH, ABSOLUTELY SUNSHINE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT.

SUNSHINE LAWS. I FORGOT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. WE HAVE SENIORS THAT NEED HELP.

YEAH, THOSE YOU CAN DIRECT, THOSE THEY CAN CALL YOU.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU ALL.

THAT'S EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. GREAT.

BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

YES, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM TO COME TO COUNCIL, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

OH, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO AS A BOARD, TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THAT OR MAKE THAT REQUEST OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? THE FIRST THING WE NEED FROM THEM IS AN APPROXIMATION OF WHAT KIND OF GRANT WOULD.

SO IT'S LESS POPULATION.

A. WHERE MY WIFE IS AS FAR AS THE ROOTS GO, PROBABLY PRETTY EQUAL TO PALM BAY AT THIS POINT. GET LIKE CONCRETE ON THE BASIS OF MELBOURNE, DOING IT AT $50,000 PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE THE BEST. HAVE A REAL NUMBER BASED ON PALM BAY.

NOT. THAT YOU WOULD WANT BEFORE.

SO YOU WOULD PREFER TO GO TO COUNCIL AND INTRODUCING IT AS WELL AS COMING WITH A NUMBER OF VERSES. I DON'T THINK I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL IS PRIVY TO EVERYTHING THAT THEY OFFER OR WHAT THEY HAVE ON.

SO I WOULD HOPE.

WISH THEY COULD GIVE THAT TO COUNSEL, BUT WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST IT TAKE.

I MEAN, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO.

OR A GRANT OPPORTUNITY WITH HAVE SAT AT THE STAFF LEVEL, SPEAK WITH SCOTT AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF FUNDING AMOUNT.

THAT WOULD THINK THEY WOULD NEED TO OFFSET.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT COULD OCCUR AT A STAFF LEVEL.

I MEAN, BECAUSE MAYBE THEY COME BACK AND SAY IT'S $75,000.

HERE'S MY SUGGESTION.

JUST BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A GRANT, YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S USING THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

YOU CALL IT A GRANT BY THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR'S COMING BUDGET.

YOU STILL USING MONEY? SO HERE'S MY SUGGESTION.

I THOUGHT THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY GOOD, VERY EDUCATIONAL.

I THINK THIS. BODY COULD THEN HIGHLIGHT SCAT, GIVE THE SAME PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, EDUCATE THEM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, BRING UP THE DECISION OF HAVING STAFF, MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT POTENTIALLY FUNDING ONE OF THESE ROUTES, AS WE CALL A GRANT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT GRANT IS GOING TO BE USING GENERAL FUND MONEY.

SO WE WOULD BE AT THAT SAME PIE AGAIN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE FOR OTHER SERVICES. AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD SERVICE.

TRUST ME, I DO WHERE I LIVE DOWN IN RIVER COUNTY.

THEY COVERED ALL TRANS IS FREE AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE.

I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I'M SAYING THE WORD GRANT.

I'M MEANING A GRANT FROM THE CITY TO SCOTT.

THAT'S NOT. SO THE GRANT, IT'S BEING GRANTED TO THEM FROM OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND, LIKE THE WAY MELBOURNE DOES IT, IT'S A GRANT AGREEMENT THAT'S EXECUTED.

I MEAN THERE'S A DOCUMENT ATTACHED, IT'S NOT JUST A CHECK AND THEY HAVE DELIVERABLES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET AND THEY SHOW DATA THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO YEAH, THAT'S, I'M NOT MEANING THAT IT'S GRANT FUNDING IN THE TERMS OF CITY OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. YEAH.

SO THAT WAS MY. SO THANK YOU, FRANK.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS SAYING.

LIKE, SHOULD WE DO? I SAID MY SUGGESTION IS MORE SO INTRODUCE IT FIRST VERSUS GOING WITH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA BECAUSE THEY MAY EVEN COME UP ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT A SUGGESTION FROM US AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.

AND THEY MAY COME AND SAY, WE NEED 100,000.

I MEAN, I THINK I THINK THE BOARD COULD.

MAKE A MOTION.

THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN HAVING THE SAME PRESENTATION AND THEN THE BOARD ENCOURAGING THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT.

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GRANT FUNDING. ON BUS ROUTES IN BOMBAY.

I MEAN, IT STILL ULTIMATELY IS UP TO COUNCIL AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH THEM AND SEE. WHAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE.

I SECOND HER EMOTION.

SURE, I'LL MAKE THAT EMOTION.

LIKE JUST ASKING IF THERE'S ANY OPPOSED BUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FAVOR I OPPOSED.

THE REASON I ASKED FRANK ABOUT THIS.

HOLD ON, FRANK. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION.

SO YOU'RE ASKING STAFF TO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE SCOTT COME AND GIVE PRESENTATION TO CITY TO CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT.

TO REQUEST, TO REQUEST THAT THEY ALLOW SCOTT TO COME AND GIVE A PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THAT IT'S UP TO COUNCIL WHAT APPEARS ON THEIR AGENDA.

SO CORRECT. BUT IF THE CITY MANAGER REQUESTS IT AND PUTS IT ON AND THEY SAY, YES, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. GOT IT.

THANK YOU. THE REASON I ASKED FRANK ABOUT THE VISION ZERO EARLIER, AS I WAS CURIOUS IF WE COULD START GETTING TRAFFIC ACCIDENT REPORTS SO WE COULD POINT OUT PROBLEM AREAS AND WORK ON. I ACTUALLY HAVE.

I RAN ON A TEAR UP. I RAN OUT OF SPEAKERS.

WE DO HAVE ACCESS.

YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE I'LL GIVE A PRESENTATION.

I THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO THE CRASH DATA, VERY LIMITED TO TO FIND OUT WHAT LOCATIONS AND HOW MANY.

IT'S IT'S PROTECTED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO YOU START GETTING INTO ACTUAL CRASH DATA AND THAT HAS PEOPLE'S NAMES.

I'M SAYING THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED.

I HAVE ACCESS TO THE FULL WHAT THE.

YES. AND SO I DON'T MIND MAYBE GIVING YOU GUYS AN UPDATE.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE FULL.

I CAN'T BECAUSE HE'S GOT PRIVATE INFORMATION ON IT.

BUT I THINK YOU DO HAVE THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO AN UP.

BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.

I'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. I THINK THERE IS AN ACCESS POINT VERY LIMITED TO GIVES YOU THE GENERAL PICTURE OF THE DASHBOARD, WHAT'S ON THERE? I THINK IT'S CALLED CRASH SOMETHING.

AND IT'S THROUGH NOT FITZ THROUGH ONE OF THE FLORIDA COLLEGES.

AND IT BUT IT'S RUN THROUGH THE DOTS.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT USES IT AND I GET ACCESS TO IT.

AND SO I'LL TRY TO GET TO THAT INFORMATION, DO A QUICK UPDATE ON IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN HAVE THE LINK.

AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU WANT, I COULD DO QUARTERLY UPDATES AND SHOW YOU WHERE THAT KIND OF PIN MAP, WHERE THE HIGH ACCENT LOCATIONS ARE.

THAT'S WHY I INTEREST WHERE ARE THE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT FOR.

AND I COULD DO I COULD DO. I COULD DO THAT.

YEAH. OKAY. OKAY.

AND I KNOW I ASKED US EARLIER, ARE YOU DO YOU ALL HAVE A CONTACT WITH BRIGHTLINE IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND GIVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.

YES, I BELIEVE WE DO.

ACTUALLY, THE CITY MANAGER HAS A TOUR SET UP WITH CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE CITY.

YOU CAN HAVE MY CITY FOR ONE.

I'VE BEEN ON IT A COUPLE OF TIMES DOWN SOUTH.

YOU SHOULD KNOW. IT'S FUN.

I'VE BEEN TO. I'VE BEEN TO MANY OF THESE ALREADY.

SO THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME.

YEAH, IT'S REALLY UP. BUT THIS ONE'S DIFFERENT.

IT'S YELLOW. COMING FROM PAST.

COMING FROM. I'VE EVER SEEN IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE TRACKS.

THEY'VE BEEN DOUBLE TRACKING OUR TRAIN TRACKS.

SO I'VE SEEN IT GO, GO THIS SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY.

BUT I'LL GET YOU THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND I'LL SEE IF BRIGHTLINE WILL COME AND DO A PRESENTATION IF YOU LIKE THAT AS WELL.

I KNOW THEIR PR PERSON GOT A NAME RIGHT NOW.

SOMETHING SHE SHE GOES OUT AND DOES PR WORK AND I KNOW SHE GOES TO DIFFERENT CITIES AND TOWN AND I BELIEVE THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO COME HERE AND DO A QUICK PRESENTATION ON THE BRIGHTON. THEY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF VIDEO TOO THAT SHOWS THE ENTIRE ROUTE, BUT IT GOES THEIR ENTIRE ROUTE GOES FROM ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM MIAMI FUTURE ALL THE WAY TO ORLANDO, THE FUTURE ALL THE WAY TO TAMPA.

AND THEN THE SPURS STOP AT A FOR A READY CREEK WHICH WILL TIE IN TO THE IT'S CALLED THE SUNRISE. AND THERE'S A TRAIN SERVICE THAT GOES OVER THERE IN THE CENTER, TIES IN WITH THE SUN. THANK YOU.

RIGHT IN BREVARD COUNTY, ALSO VIA COUNTY IS THEY'RE LOOKING AT STOPPING BOARD COUNTY.

THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A STOP IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.

AND SO THERE'LL BE A STOP BETWEEN IT'LL BE ONE OR TWO STOPS THERE.

BUT THE CURRENT STOPS RIGHT NOW ARE WEST PALM BEACH AND THEN ALL THE WAY UP.

NO STOPS. AND THEN IT'S ORLANDO.

REALLY? YEAH. THEY'RE LOOKING AT STOPS.

THAT POTENTIAL, THEY'RE LOOKING AT STOP MORE LIKES IS GOING TO BE IN COCO.

WHY? BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT.

YEAH. YES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR A FAMILY THAT LIVE.

YES, SIR. I DON'T WANT YOU TO RUN AWAY CAUSE THEY.

THEY MAKE YOU RUN. YOU GET EXERCISE, BUT HOPE YOU COUNT YOUR STEPS TODAY.

TWO THINGS. ONE, I'M SURE YOU HAVE THE CONTACT, BUT WE JUST DID BRING HER IN FOR THE PALM BAY CHAMBER LUNCHEON AND SHE DID THE PRESENTATION.

SO IF NOT, WE CAN DEFINITELY SET THAT UP TO GET HER TO COME IN.

BUT RIGHT LINE PERSON.

NO, I, I HAD THAT CONTEXT.

I GET, I GET WEEKLY EMAILS FROM BRIGHT LINE.

OKAY. BECAUSE STATUS OF THE RAILROAD CROSSING STATUS OF THE ALL THE ISSUES THAT GOES ON.

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SO I HAVE A CONTRACT ALREADY.

I GET EMAILS EVERY WEEK.

BRIGHT LINE. YEAH. AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, MAN, THAT THAT, THAT MEETING WAS, IT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE I THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE SO EXCITED AND BAD.

SHE'S GOOD BECAUSE THEY LEANED INTO HER IN WAYS I HAD NEVER SEEN, BUT I WAS LIKE, WOW, TO HEY, SOMETHING THAT IT JUST KEEPS BOTHERING ME.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT.

WE CAN UPDATE.

AND THIS IS SHIFTING COMPLETELY AWAY FROM BRIGHT LINE, BUT I KEEP HEARING THAT WE'RE SO BEHIND ON THIS FIVE YEAR PLAN AS IT RELATES TO OUR ROADS, AND IT'S NOT REALLY A FIVE YEAR PLAN. WE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT'S REALLY AN EIGHT YEAR PLAN.

IT HAS FIVE PHASES.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

IS IT JUST I MEAN, FOR ME AND IT I THINK IT MIGHT SOLVE THAT.

EVERY PRESENTATION I SEE STILL SAYS LIKE FIVE YEARS.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN JUST CHANGE EVERYTHING? I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING SIMPLE, BUT AS FAR AS PHASES, IT HAS BEEN CHANGED, THE WORDING, ITS PHASES AND KNOW RIGHT NOW.

CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE FINISHING UP THE AREAS OF JUST THE HEIGHTS.

IF YOU GO UP THERE, WE JUST FINISHED PAVING FLORIDA AVENUE AND AS OF TODAY WE FINISHED UP THE LAST OF THE STREETS AND TOMORROW WE'LL BE PAVING DOROTHY FIELD AVENUE.

THAT WILL BE THE LAST STREET IN JUST THE HEIGHTS.

AND I THINK WEDNESDAY THEY'LL BE MOVING TO AN AREA CALLED FA FA VIEW SUBDIVISION OVERALL FOR US ONE. AND THEN A WEEK AFTER THAT, THEN WE'RE MOVING INTO UNIT 48, WHICH IS OVER HERE OFF OF EMERSON AND JUPITER.

AND SO AT THE CURRENT SITUATION RIGHT NOW WITH THE AREAS IN JUST A HALF TO ABOUT 35% COMPLETE, IT MEANS IF YOU TOOK A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE BY CALENDAR DATE, EIGHT YEARS, WE'RE ABOUT 38 PRETTY MUCH ON TARGET RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, AND I KNOW IT AND I AGREE WITH YOU AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.

I THINK IT'S JUST IT'S YOU SEE, I HEAR OFTEN WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE FIVE YEARS AND IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, IT'S FIVE PHASE.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO PROMOTE THE FIVE PHASES.

AND I'VE CHECKED, MAKE SURE THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT SOME NEWS RELEASES AND I'LL MAKE SURE IT SAYS FIVE, FIVE PHASES AND YEAH, AND IT'S AN EIGHT YEAR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.

BUT IF YOU DRIVE THE AREAS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED LIKE 31, 32, 24, 25, THE SOUTHERN BELT, WE PAVED ALL THOSE STREETS.

YEAH, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR IN THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

IN THIS CITY OF THIS SIZE, YOU HAVE ALL THOSE STREETS PAVED.

IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. I THINK THERE ARE LIKE A PAGE ON THE WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND SEE A STATUS OF THE ROAD BOND.

NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CREATE A GIS MAPPING, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE THIS STAFF SHORTFALLS AND YOU CAN SEE I'M THE ONLY ONE DO.

YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF NOW.

I MEAN, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF A RESIDENT COULD GO, YOU KNOW, AN INTERACTIVE MAP ROADS DOT COM, DOT DOT GOV, DOT ORG, WHATEVER, AND PULL IT UP AND SEE WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT. YEAH, WE'RE AT 38% COMPLETE.

WE'RE IN YEAR THREE OF YEAR EIGHT LIKE IN TO EXPLAIN SO THAT PEOPLE COULD BECAUSE I DO HERE AS A BOARD MEMBER PEOPLE SAY WELL I'M NEVER GOING TO GET A ROAD OR THEY'RE SO FAR BEHIND. AND AND IT'S LACK OF EDUCATION.

IT'S 1,010% LACK OF EDUCATION.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO POINT THEM AND JUST SAY, NO, GO HERE AND LOOK.

AND I'VE BEEN TRYING AND ONE OF MY GOALS DIRECTED BY THE CITY MANAGER IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT THAT PROVIDES INFORMATION, KEELY AND CHRISTINA.

AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ON A WEEKLY BASIS ALMOST NOW, EVERY OTHER DAY I'VE BEEN SHOOTING THEM STATUSES AND PHOTOS THAT WE'VE BEEN COMPLETING AND THEN TRY TO GET THAT ON THE WEB PAGE NOW SO THEY CAN SEE LIKE, LIKE TOMORROW THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF DOROTHY FIELD AVENUE.

HERE IT IS MILLED AND THE TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE PAVED.

FLORIDA AVENUE LOOKS GREAT.

YEAH, IT'S ALL DONE.

AND THE POP UP BY THE NAME OF NEIGHBORHOOD.

I TRIED TO DO AT THE END A LOT OF THE NATURE OF THE PERSON AND THEY WERE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION. I SENT A FIVE YEAR OLD BUILDING THERE AND SURE ENOUGH, HE HAPPENED TO REACH THERE NEARBY WITH IT.

SO I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT FIVE YEARS LATER.

SURPRISE NOTE. HERE IT IS.

IT WAS IT WAS A IT WAS A IT'S A FIVE PHASE FUNDING PROGRAM.

IT'S EIGHT YEARS CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER FOUR YEARS TO CONSTRUCT DICTATED BY THE BY THE BOND, BECAUSE ON STAGE, YOU HAVE TO PULL THE $450 OUT BY 100 I WITHIN FIVE YEARS.

FIVE YEARS. AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER THREE YEARS TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION, FINISH IT OFF. SO WE HAVE AN EIGHT YEAR PROGRAM AND THE CURRENT SITUATION RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE WE'LL MOVE AS BEST WE CAN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SLIGHT DELAY, SOME UTILITY COMPLEX, BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AGAIN WITH WITH STREETS BEING PAVED EVERY DAY.

THERE'S A REALLY GOOD JOB ON FACEBOOK BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THAT TO WHERE THE FACEBOOK POST TO SHOW UP AND SAY THIS IS COMPLETE.

I'M LIKE, YES. THERE YOU GO.

ALEX AND AND I THANK KIELY AND CHRISTINA THERE IN OUR OUR OFFICE FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND

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THAT THEIR SHORTFALL WAS THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE GIVING THEM THE INFORMATION.

SO I'VE BEEN DOING MY BEST.

YOU KNOW, I'M OUT THERE PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER DAY.

I'M OUT THERE WITH MY HEART AND ON INSPECTING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME SENDING PHOTOGRAPHS.

YOU GUYS HAVE A GIS DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION? WE HAVE A GIS PERSON.

WE HAVE A JUST KIND OF LIKE BASED OUT OF OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A GREAT GIS.

IT JUST WE DON'T HAVE A STAT PERSON IN PUBLIC WORKS.

AND THE ORIGINAL GOAL WITH THE ROAD PROGRAM WAS TO HAVE THIS INTERACTIVE MAP.

YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY ARCGIS HAS AN INTERACTIVE KIND OF THEY USE IT FOR LIKE CIP PROJECT UPDATES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO INTO A ZONE AND CLICK ON A PROJECT AND IT SHOWS A PHOTO AND A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AND UPDATE IT AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT PERSON OC.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIKE AN OPENING OR WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT ROLE, PERIOD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OPENINGS.

SO SO WE DO HAVE A POSITION.

WE JUST DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A PERSON IN THE POSITION.

BUT SO WE'VE HAD THESE GOOD EXAMPLES OF THE ENGINEERING POSITIONS WE'VE HAD OPEN SINCE I STARTED HERE FOUR YEARS AGO.

YEAH. SO NOW THAT HONESTLY, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT VICE INTERN TASK.

WE HAVE A SEPARATE EGIS PERSON.

WE HAVE A SEPARATE WE JUST RECENTLY FILLED TWO OF OUR CAT POSITIONS.

WE WERE FORTUNATE, BUT AGAIN THERE IT'S A HIT OR MISS, BUT IN THE TECHNICAL FIELDS VERY DIFFICULT. YOU GET AN INTERN THAT'S IN GUY'S SCHOOL FOR FREE TO COME AGAIN.

I MEAN WE'VE TRIED THAT APPROACH TO WE WENT TO FIT I KNOW INSTRUCTOR OVER THERE BUT.

THEY WANT MONEY. THAT'S THE WAY THE INDUSTRY IS RIGHT NOW.

AND NOBODY WANT MONEY.

THEY SIT AT HOME AND WORK FOR FACEBOOK AND EXACTLY EVERYWHERE ELSE.

OR THEY'LL DO A DELIVERY FOR PUBLIX AND MAKE 15 BUCKS AN HOUR.

SO WHY DON'T WE WORK FOR FREE? SAD, BUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE GETTING PAID.

I RESPECT THAT.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO AS IT RELATES TO THE WATER HOOKUP, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME IN MY MIND.

SO I KNOW IT WASN'T THEIR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WATER PLANT BEING BUILT OUT GOING SOUTH.

WE HAVE AN EXPANSION OF THE SOUTHERN WATER PLANT AND SEWER PLANT IS BEING FUNDED IN THE WATER PLANT SHOULD BE DONE BY NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S GOING TO HELP BRING WATER DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN PART DOWN THERE BY THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, YOU KNOW, THE WATER STONE, ALL THOSE NEW HOMES BEING BUILT AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL AS WELL. AND THEN IT'S GOING TO EXPAND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO EMERALD LAKES.

AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE EXPANDING THE WASTEWATER PLANT AS WELL, AND THAT WON'T COME ONLINE FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

WE JUST HAVE BRING WATER.

I MEAN, WATER THAT WARMS. WELL, THIS ONE.

ONE IS POTABLE WATER, DRINKING WATER.

THE OTHER ONE IS. IS YOUR SEWER LINE.

I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S GOT RECLAIMED WATER, WHICH IS THE PURPLE PIPE.

I DON'T THINK HE HAS THAT.

I THINK WE ASKED ONCE BEFORE FOR SOMEBODY FROM UTILITIES TO.

YES. AND I STILL HAVE IT ON MY LIST.

I HAVE A PERSON I KNOW THEY'RE VERY SHORT STAFFED.

YEAH, THEY'RE SHORT STAFFED, TOO.

BUT I'VE ASKED THEM TO HAVE SOMEONE PRESENT AND GIVE THEM AN UPDATE ON THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. WELL, I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THE DRINK.

WATER. WATER. YES.

DRINKING WATER. POTABLE WATER.

DRINKING WATER, YES.

BUT DOES THAT INCLUDE THE FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE OF.

AND FILIPPO WAS JUST PURE WEALTH.

DOES IT INCLUDE THOSE AREAS? THAT'S THE HARD PART, IS WHAT'S BRINGING THE WATER DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN PART.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OFF OF BABCOCK AND THOSE NEW HOMES DOWN THERE.

THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE PAYING FOR IT.

THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT FORCE MADE TO BE PUT DOWN THERE AT 20 INCH FORCE MAIN TO BRING DOWN THE FIRST MAN DOWN SANFILIPPO DOWN THERE BY, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY UNITS 30, 24, 25 THAT HAS NO WATER.

IF SOMEONE'S GOT TO PAY FOR IT.

SO EITHER YOU ASSESS THE PEOPLE TO PUT IT ON THE LINE.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS IN WATER, ESPECIALLY POTABLE WATER, DRINKING WATER.

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT DEAD END.

WE DO HAVE A LOT WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCATIONS THAT THE WATER STOPS.

GOOD EXAMPLE. IT ENDS AT BABCOCK ROAD.

THAT RICK KOGAN, THAT'S A DEAD END.

SO THAT MEANS EVERY MONTH HE'S GOT TO FLUSH OUT THOUSANDS OF GALLONS.

THAT'S THAT'S STATE LAW.

DEP REQUIRES HIM TO HAVE THAT WATER CIRCULATE, BE CHEMICALLY TREATED, OR IF IT DEAD ENDS AND BUILDS UP, HE'S GOT TO BLEED IT.

HE'S GOT TO NOBODY DOES THE SAME THING UP THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY.

WE HAVE DEAD ENDS. YEAH, OFF OF UNIVERSITY.

THERE'S A DEAD END LINE THAT BLEED INTO THAT.

DON'T SAY. AND YOU SEE THEM UNDER THE MANHOLE AND YOU SEE THEM OUT OF THE HYDROGEN BLEEDING WATER OUT FOR HOURS THAT'S REQUIRED TO CLEAN THE WATER LINES, RECIRCULATE IT, AND THEN THEY'LL SHUT IT OFF AND THEY COME BACK ONCE A MONTH AND DO IT AGAIN.

WE DO THE SAME THING AS STATE LAW TO CLEAN THE WATER.

YOU CAN'T HAVE POTABLE WATER JUST SITTING THERE STAGNATING BECAUSE IT'S NOT CIRCULATING.

YOU GOT IT TO FLOW. HMM.

BECAUSE I JUST KNOW WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE CITY, THAT WAS EVERYBODY'S KIND OF COMPLAINT

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WITH THE HOOK UP BEING SO EXCESSIVELY LIKE THE EXCESSIVE COST.

SO JUST. BUT THEN WE LOOK AT, I GUESS, COMPARED TO THE OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES AND OTHER CITIES IN FLORIDA, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST VERSUS HERE, THAT WAS EVERYBODY'S KIND OF COMPLAINT THAT I WAS HEARING SO WELL.

I THINK THE COST IS DERIVED FROM THE TRUE COST TO ACTUALLY RUN A WATER MAIN.

AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 20 INCH WATER MAIN, I MEAN, THAT'S.

AND USUALLY THE ONLY PART THE RESIDENT IS TYPICALLY PAYING IF YOU CAN GET A DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR YOUR TRANSMISSION LINE.

TYPICALLY THE RESIDENTS PAYING JUST TO RUN IT TO THEIR HOUSE.

BUT DEPENDING I MEAN, SOME OF THESE LOTS IN PALM BAY, YOU HAVE A TON OF FRONTAGE IN THE FRONT AND THEY HAVE TO RUN A SERVICE LINE FROM THE ROAD.

AND AGAIN, THE MAIN COST, WHEN I SAY THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT, IT'S NOT THE HOMES.

YOU GUYS THAT 20 INCH FORCED ME IS FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

IT'S FOR FIRE PROTECTION.

FIRE PROTECTION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MUCH PRESSURE FOR FIRE PROTECTION FOR, SAY, THE LARGE COMMERCIAL GROCERY STORE, THAT SCREEN THAT'S GOING TO BE DOWN THERE.

IT'S GOT TO HAVE SO MUCH PRESSURE DOWN THERE, NOT RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

THAT'S WHAT THAT 20 INCH AND THOSE IS FOR THE COMMERCIAL SITES.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE FIRE PROTECTION BECAUSE YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMING. THAT'S A BIG OBSTACLE.

IT'S THAT FIRE PROTECTION, THEY PAY FOR IT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT ALREADY THERE, WHEREAS THEY COULD GO TO MELBOURNE OR ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET THAT WATER ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE, IT'S A FORCE MAN, BUT ONCE IT GETS DOWN THERE, IT'S GOT TO GO TO SAY ALL THE WAY OUT TO EMERALD LAKES ON I-95.

THE ONLY WAY TO ADD PRESSURE IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A WATER TOWER OR A TANK.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO RAISE THE WATER UP AND GIVE IT ENERGY TO PRESSURE THE LINE AGAIN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHY IN FLORIDA, YOU SEE TOWERS EVERYWHERE.

IT'S JUST TO GET THE WATER GOING.

INTERESTING. YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE UTILITIES TO COME BACK WHEN THEY HAVE TIME.

AND WHEN I GET A CHANCE, I WILL SEE IF THEY SHOW UP.

ANYTHING ELSE? PRETTY PLEASED.

I'LL ASK NOTHING ELSE.

I'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.