[CALL TO ORDER]
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ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
DO I NEED TO BANG THE THING? SO I HAVE TO HIT THE GAVEL.
NOW, CAN WE GET ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIR PERSON BYRD.
VICE CHAIR SNYDER PRESENT MEMBER CONNOLLY.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY THAT CORRECT ME.
[PRESENTATIONS]
ALL RIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST PRESENTATION AND OUR ONLY PRESENTATION OF THE EVENING.REALLY EXCITED FOR MR. TIM TUCKER.
I GET THAT CORRECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO US ABOUT THE EVE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS IN THE CITY.
I THINK. SO I THINK THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO DO IS BE ON THE MIC.
IT RECORDS IT AND WE HAVE IT FOR PUBLIC RECORD.
CAN YOU HEAR IT IN THE BACK? IT'S A LITTLE HARD FOR US TO TELL, I THINK.
YOU'RE GOOD. YEP, THAT'S PERFECT.
AND SO IF WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT, YOU CAN STAY THERE NEXT TO THE MIC AND WE CAN.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL JUST SPEAK THROUGH HERE SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
SO MY NAME IS TIM HUCKER, AND I AM THE FLEET MANAGER HERE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I HAVE BEEN A TECHNICIAN SINCE 1980 AND BEEN MOSTLY IN THE RETAIL CAR BUSINESS MY WHOLE LIFE.
TO THIS DAY, I STILL AM A MASTER CERTIFIED AC TECHNICIAN.
SO THAT'S WHY SUZANNE HAS ASKED ME TO HELP WITH ELECTRIFYING PALM BAY.
SHARE MAYBE INFORMATION YOU DO OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVS.
AND PLEASE, I LOVE ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
GUY OH, SO I LOVE ALL THAT STUFF.
I THOUGHT I WOULD KIND OF START OFF BY TALKING ABOUT.
AND OF THE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS THAT THERE ARE.
SO THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HYBRID AND PLUG IN HYBRID IS THAT.
THE PLUG IN HYBRID YOU TAKE HOME, YOU PUT IN YOUR GARAGE AND YOU PLUG IT IN OVERNIGHT.
SO WHEN YOU LEAVE IN THE MORNING, YOU HAVE A FULL CHARGE.
SO YOU MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS OF THE ELECTRIFICATION.
SO WHEN YOU LEAVE IN THE MORNING, IN A PLUG IN, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GO 20 OR 30 MILES.
IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT, LIKE A LIKE A REGULAR ELECTRIC, BUT YOU START OFF WITH A FULL CHARGE.
SO SAY IF YOU GO TO WORK AND YOUR WORK HAS A PLUG IN, YOU COULD PLUG IN THERE AS WELL.
SO YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ELECTRIFICATION LONGER.
THAT'S THE BIG SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM JUST A REGULAR HYBRID TO PLUG IN HYBRID.
AND THEN. FROM THERE WE HAVE THE EV.
IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE.
PRIMARILY, NISSAN HAS HAD THE LEAF IN THE NORMAL CAR MARKET, BUT IT'S NEVER GONE ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE. IT COULD ONLY GOES 60 OR 70 MILES ON A BATTERY CHARGER AND NONE OF US CAN EVER WRITE.
GOING TO WORK, RIGHT? SO THEY NEVER REALLY CAUGHT ON UNTIL TESLA CAME AROUND AND SAID, OKAY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO SOMEWHERE.
YOU CAN GO TO ORLANDO COMFORTABLY, THAT'S AROUND IN ORLANDO, COME BACK FOR THE DAY.
AND SO NOW IT BECOMES A VIABLE OPTION.
SO PART OF OUR JOURNEY HAS TAKEN US TO GET THEM A CAR GUY.
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AND I'M SORRY IF I GET OFF ON TOO MANY DIFFERENT TANGENTS, BUT.EXCEL FLEET SO EXCEL FLEET IS.
BUT THE BATTERY. SO WE CAN TAKE OUR EXISTING FLEET.
THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE.
AND SO WE CAN SEE A LITTLE DOT.
AND SO IF YOU WANT, I CAN SWING OVER THERE AND SHOW YOU HOW TO USE THAT REAL QUICK.
JUST TO MAKE YOUR LIFE EASIER.
YOU SEE THAT? AT THIS POINT, IT WON'T WORK ON THE TV.
IT'LL WORK THE WORK ON THE WALLS.
IF WE HAD A TEN YEAR OLD TRUCK, WE COULD TURN IT INTO A HYBRID.
AND I'M LIKE, WOW, THAT'S GREAT TECHNOLOGY.
SO NOT ONLY NOT ONLY THAT, YOU CAN THEY HAVE A PLUG IN HYBRID AVAILABLE.
THEY ACTUALLY BROUGHT A DEMO DOWN FOR US AND THEY LET US USE IT FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS.
ANYWAY, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW EXCITED I WAS UNTIL I FOUND HOW EXPENSIVE IT WAS.
HOW COST ALWAYS KEEPS GETTING IN THE WAY OF SUSTAINABILITY.
SO IF THIS IS THE ROI THAT RETURNED ON OUR USE OF THAT TRUCK, SO IT WAS GOING TO TAKE ABOUT SIX AND A HALF YEARS. TO GET ANY COST BENEFIT.
SO IT WAS LIKE, WELL, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, RIGHT? BUT IT WAS REALLY COOL TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE AND YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT WAS A COOL OPTION.
AND THEN THEY BROUGHT THESE DOWN.
THEY THEY'RE BRAND NEW TO THE MARKET.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY'RE OUT.
GURU MAKES A GOOD PRODUCT ANYWAY.
AND THERE, THERE ALONG EVERY LINE, YOU KNOW, THE TORO THAT YOU BUY AT LOWE'S IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT YOU BUY AT THE DEALER, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WE BUY TO MOW IN THE CITY.
SO THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL GRADE THAT WE USE.
THEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, HOW MUCH? $17,000 PREMIUM FOR THE MOWER.
OKAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT SO BAD BECAUSE.
THE NORMAL GAS VERSION COSTS ABOUT 10,000.
DID YOU MEAN IT? 17,000 MORE FOR THIS BECAUSE.
I CAN BUY THREE MOWERS FOR ONE OF THESE.
HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GET THERE? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU EXPECT US TO GO TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND JUSTIFY 17,000 UPCHARGE FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY? SO HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE THEY.
RIGHT. SO YOU TAKE IN BREAKS AND LUNCH.
SO ANYWAY, IF WE GET A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY DEMO ONE FOR FREE, WE'LL PROBABLY DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE EIGHT AND ONE HALF HOURS MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN HOURS.
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SO UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DIDN'T PAN OUT VERY WELL.BUT HERE ARE SOME OF THE CARS THAT DID PAN OUT.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THESE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE ONE OF THESE ON ORDER.
SHOULD BE HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS AT ALL, BUT IT IS A FORD MAVERICK.
AND PEOPLE FROM MY ERA WILL REMEMBER THE MAVERICK AS A CAR, NOT A TRUCK.
AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT IS IT'S SMALL.
IT'S MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT IT LOOKS HERE.
BUT THE FUEL ECONOMY IS ASTRONOMICAL.
IT'S AWESOME. SO IT'S TALKING LIKE 45 MILES PER GALLON AND IT COMES AS A HYBRID.
SO A MOWING CREW WOULD NEVER HAVE A USE FOR THIS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT JUST NEED TO CARRY LITTLE THINGS AND THE HYBRID OPTION WILL BE PERFECT FOR THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN.
FASTER THAN THAT MAVERICK SOLD OUT BEFORE THEY COULD EVEN POST IT.
SO. THESE ARE THE PURE ELECTRIC.
SO THIS GETS INTO THE NISSAN LEAF AND THE NISSAN LEAF HAVING TO COMPETE NOW IS UP IN AROUND THE 200 MILE RANGE. THE CHEVY VOLT IS THE SAME WAY.
CHEVY BOLT'S GOT A LOT OF BAD PRESS, AND DESERVEDLY SO, BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING A HORRIFIC PROBLEM WITH THEIR BATTERIES, BUT THEY HAVE A FIX FOR IT. AND WHAT IS AGGRAVATING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY IS THAT THEY THEY HAVE A UTILITY BATTERY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD OF IT, BUT IT'S A IT'S A NEW BATTERY AND.
THE WHOLE INDUSTRY IS SAYING, WHY DON'T YOU JUST TAKE THE BATTERIES OUT AND THEN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT A WORKAROUND FOR THE BATTERIES YOU HAVE IN THE CAR, WHICH WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT IT'S A GREAT SIZE, GREAT CAR DRIVES WELL, AND ULTIMATELY, THAT'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC VEHICLE.
IT'S A LEGITIMATE PICKUP TRUCK WITH LEGITIMATE MILEAGE.
IT CAN HAVE 230 MILE RANGE OR IT CAN HAVE A 300 MILE RANGE.
BUT IT HAS IT'S FULLY FUNCTIONAL AS A PICKUP TRUCK, £10,000 TOWING CAPACITY.
SO VIRTUALLY MOST OF THE PICKUP TRUCKS WE HAVE IN THE CITY FALL IN THIS.
AND THE PRICE POINT IS PRETTY FAIR COMPARED TO LIKE A TESLA.
TESLA HAS IS BY FAR THE BEST MODEL TO WITH THE BEST TRACK RECORD.
BUT THEY THERE'S TWO PROBLEMS. OPTICS IS ONE. I MEAN, IF YOU DROVE AROUND THE CITY IN A TESLA, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SAYING REALLY, REALLY, I'D BLAME IT ON THE BOARD.
BUT YEAH, OPTICS IS ONE, BUT THE ACTUAL PRICE OF IT IS JUST YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY SPENDING TAX DOLLARS AT THAT PRICE, BUT THIS IS A REAL VIABLE OPTION.
HOLY COW, YOU GOT TO CHARGE THESE THINGS.
SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE THING, RIGHT? JUST PLUG IT IN.
WELL, THAT'S NOT TOO EASY, SO.
THERE'S THREE LEVELS OF CHARGERS.
SO THE STANDARD CHARGER THAT THEY ALL COME WITH IS CALLED A LEVEL ONE.
AND THAT LITERALLY IS BRING IT UP, HOLD IN YOUR GARAGE AND PLUG IT IN TO THE OUTLET IN YOUR HOUSE.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU CAN GET 3 TO 5 MILES PER HOUR THAT IT CHARGES.
RIGHT. SO IF IT CAN SIT THERE FOR 18 HOURS, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A FULL CHARGE NOW FOR AN RV. SO A PLUG IN HYBRID, THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD OPTION BECAUSE THE BATTERIES AREN'T SO BIG, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GO 30 MILES ON A CHARGE.
SO STANDARD, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT, THAT WORKS OUT PRETTY WELL.
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BUT IF YOU GET A LEGITIMATE ELECTRIC CAR, YOU NEED TO GO TO A LEVEL TWO.SO THESE ARE THE ONES THAT GET INSTALLED IN PEOPLE'S HOMES.
GET THE MOTHER OF THEM ALL THE LEVEL THREE.
NOW THE LEVEL THREE, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN GET 3 TO 20 MILES PER MINUTE.
OKAY, WELL, WE'LL JUST PUT IN A LEVEL THREES.
WELL, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE VOLTAGE.
PLUS, THERE'S AMPERAGE, WHICH GETS INTO A WHOLE DIFFERENT TOPIC, BUT.
AND THE REASON IS RIGHT BEYOND THAT WALL IS A BIG ELECTRICAL ROOM.
WELL. IT'S EASY TO PLUG RIGHT IN THERE TO A LEVEL TWO.
CHARGE THAT. SO NOW YOU GET INTO A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION.
HOW MUCH MORE POWER DO WE NEED TO BRING IN AND WHERE DO WE PULL THAT FROM? HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? SO IT JUST TAKES YOU IN A WHOLE IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
SO IN FLEET, IF WE HAVE A CAR OR TRUCK THAT'S IN FOR SERVICE, WE CAN JUST HAVE A LEVEL TWO AND WE CAN PLUG IN AND IT'LL DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
THE AND I'M GOING TO TALK IN GENERALITIES AS FAR AS THE EXPENSE GOES, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO NAIL THEM DOWN ON WHAT WHAT THE BEST PRICING IS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. SO PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT CHARGERS, BUT.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THESE ARE COMPANIES THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AND GOTTEN BIDS FROM CHARGEPOINT.
SIGNIFICANCE. HERE IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
WE CANNOT GO THROUGH ALL THIS AND NOT JUSTIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SUSTAINABILITY IS ONLY SUSTAINABILITY IF YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY, IF WE PLUG INTO AN OUTLET, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF MONITORING.
WHAT HOW MUCH? ELECTRICITY PUTTING IN CHARGE POINT HAS THE ABILITY TO INTERFACE WITH OUR CURRENT FUEL SYSTEM.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A KEY FOB, YOU CAN'T GET GAS.
SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IS GOING IN EACH VEHICLE.
ANOTHER OPTION WAS, IS TO HAVE PHP COME IN AND DO IT.
SO THEY WERE LICKING THEIR CHOPS.
THESE GUYS ARE LIKE, OH, YEAH.
JUST GIVE US THE LAND AND IT'S ALL FOR FREE.
AND IT WAS ALL FREE, RIGHT? IT WAS ALL. EVERYTHING WAS FREE.
WE'LL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING WELL, BUT WE DON'T GET THE UPSIDE OF THAT EITHER.
SO IF WE GET THEY WOULD ONLY BE DOING THAT IF THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT MONEY INVOLVED.
RIGHT. SO SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET INTO THE LEVEL THREE CHARGING AND LET REVENUES PAY FOR THAT.
BUT FIRST WE GOT TO START TAKE OUR FIRST STEP.
BUT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING PRESENTATION THEY HAD.
THIS IS THE LATEST AND THIS MAY BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT RELATIONSHIP WE'VE COME INTO BECAUSE WE HAVE STARTED HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FORD F ONE FIFTIES.
AND BUYING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEM.
AND SO I WENT TO A CONFERENCE OF FLEET MANAGERS AND I MET PEOPLE AT FORD THAT HAS STARTED.
HOW DO YOU SCALE THIS? WHERE DO YOU PUT THEM? DO YOU PUT THEM AT WALMART? YOU PUT THEM AT WHERE DO YOU PUT THEM? YOU KNOW, SO THEY GO THROUGH THAT.
SO THIS IS THESE ARE JUST I HAVE PUT UP DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHARGING STATIONS.
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THIS PARTICULAR ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT WOULD BE MORE OF ONE THAT YOU SEE OUT AND ABOUT.THIS WOULD BE A DISPENSER I MEANT TO SAY.
THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE SOMETHING.
THIS WOULD BE CUSTOMER FACING AND THAT.
IT'S SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE IN THE LOWER CORNER DOWN HERE, SEE THIS CABINET.
ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS TO BRING MORE POWER TO THE STATIONS, TO BRING LEVEL THREE.
SO JUST ALL DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WITH THAT. THIS IS THE THE FLORIDA STATE ASSOCIATION.
FLORIDA SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION HAS A CONTRACT THAT WE BUY OUR CARS THROUGH.
SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GO THROUGH THE STATE AND ALL THE DEALERS PUT IN BIDS FOR ALL PARTICULAR CARS, AND THEN THEY WILL AWARD THE LOWEST BIDDER OR THE LOWEST BIDDER.
SO THEY HAVE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO DO THAT WITH ALL THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS.
SO ALL THE LEVEL TWO AND THREE CHARGERS, SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SOME OF THE TELEMATICS.
SO THAT BID CONCLUDED IN APRIL, AND I THINK THEY AWARDED JUNE.
SO THIS IS AS AS THIS UNFOLDS.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED US TO PUT IN THREE CHARGING STATIONS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND SPEND THE MONEY.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH ALL THAT HE THREW AT YOU? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D WANT MORE INFORMATION ON OR I GET INTO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING NOW? YES. YEAH, WELL, ME EITHER.
SO WHAT HAS BROUGHT THE SITUATION THAT THE VEHICLES AREN'T AVAILABLE? ARE THEY NOT MAKING ENOUGH OF THEM? OR IS CONSUMER DEMAND SO HIGH FOR THEM RIGHT NOW? AND WHY WOULD THAT BE? ALL OF THE ABOVE AND THEN SOME.
SO ODDLY ENOUGH, AS I UNDERSTAND, THE CHIP SHORTAGES IS NOT THE BIGGEST COMPONENT. THE BIGGEST COMPONENT IS CUSTOMER DEMAND IN THEIR ABILITY TO BUILD THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW AT BUILDING THEM. AND SO THE REALITY IS NOBODY SAYS IT, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT I COULD SELL THESE AT FULL STICKER PRICE OR I COULD SELL THEM AT A.
A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT TO GOVERNMENT WHICH AM I GOING TO DO EITHER IS SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST IT'S IT'S LEGITIMATELY THE REASON WHY WE'RE WHERE WE ARE AND THAT'S WHY THEY SELL OUT BECAUSE IF YOU GO BY ANY DEALERSHIP, I DON'T CARE WHAT BRAND IT IS, YOU LOOK AT THEIR PARKING LOTS AND THEY HAVE NOTHING.
SO IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT.
AND THERE'S THERE ARE SOME SHORTAGES, YOU KNOW.
DUE TO THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.
BUT. THAT'S THE BIGGEST REASON.
IT WOULDN'T BE JUST FOR FLEET USE.
SO LET ME LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO SUZANNE HAS ASKED ME TO PUT TOGETHER SO WHEN WE DO BUDGETS FOR THE YEAR.
I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE A YEAR, BUT SO IN.
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SAY, OCH.IF I NEED A AN ADMINISTRATIVE VEHICLE.
WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE VEHICLES.
YOU CAN SEE THE SO THE TOP FOUR HAVE TO DO WITH ELECTRIFYING ONLY.
AND YOU CAN SEE AT THIS POINT WE'VE GOT ESTIMATES OF 35,000 PER CHARGER INSTALLED.
NOW SOMETIMES THAT A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH.
INSTALLATION BECAUSE THIS ONE HERE IS SUPER SIMPLE, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MINUTE.
AND THEN YOU GET DOWN TO ANOTHER THE HYBRIDS OR ADMINISTRATIVE VEHICLES, TWO GREAT OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE, THEIR POLICE CARS, EVERYTHING DOWN BELOW IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY VIABLE OPTIONS OTHER THAN THAT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OR ANY OTHER OPTION, WE ARE EITHER.
SO OUR CHALLENGE THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE GETTING.
GETTING THEM APPROVED AND GETTING THEM.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL DEPLOY A DIFFERENT TACTIC THIS YEAR IN THAT WE CAN ONCE FISCAL YEAR STARTS ON OCTOBER 1ST, WE CAN ORDER THAT.
SO IF BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MESSING AROUND AND START ORDERING THEM IN JANUARY AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YOU WON'T WANT SO SO ANYWAY, SO THIS IS SO WE'VE PUSHED THAT OUT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ALL THE DIRECTORS TO CHOOSE.
THESE ARE ONES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON ORDER.
SO THE TOP ONE, WE HAVE THAT FORD ESCAPE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
WE HAVE TOYOTA RAV4 FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE ORDERED.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY WERE ORDERED BACK IN MARCH.
WE WON'T SEE THEM UNTIL AUGUST.
WE HOPE WE HAVE EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, NOT EVEN JUST AUTOMOTIVE, THAT PUSHES BACK EVERY MONTH.
EVERY MONTH. AND IT PUSHES BACK FOR.
A COUPLE OF MONTHS, IT SEEMS LIKE, AT A TIME.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WE ARE EXPECTING TO HIT THE GROUND SOON.
THIS. THIS OVER HERE IS WHAT THIS IS A PICTURE OF.
SO THIS IS IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT, THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.
AND THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS LITTLE BLUE SQUARE IS WHERE WE PLAN TO PUT THE EV CHARGER AT PUBLIC WORKS AND THAT WILL BE CUSTOMER FACING SO THAT ANYBODY THAT PULLS UP HAS ACCESS TO OUR CHARGER IF WE GET ANY.
WE CAN PARK THEM THERE OVERNIGHT.
CHARGE THEM THERE THAT'LL HAVE ALL THE TELEMATICS.
SO WE WITH THE CHARGERS WE'RE LOOKING AT WE CAN.
YOU CAN DO PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING WE WANT.
WE CAN CHARGE STARTING AT 5:00 AT NIGHT OR WE CAN CHARGE ALL DAY.
WE CAN CHARGE GIVE PEOPLE CODES, FOBS OR SO.
THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE COULD DO WITH THESE CHARGERS, BUT TURNING IT INTO A REVENUE STREAM IS JUST FANTASTIC BECAUSE EVERYBODY WOULD LOVE TO PLUG IN A FAIR PRICE.
WE ARE GOING TO GO HERE AT CITY HALL.
THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER.
THERE'S A BIG OLD ELECTRICAL PANEL IN THERE WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF ELECTRICITY.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WILL GO OUTSIDE HERE.
NOW, WHEN I TALK TO YOU ABOUT INSTALLATION BEING A CHALLENGE, WE LOOKED AT TO MAKE THIS BIGGER, I CUT OFF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT. JUST RIGHT HERE.
AND THEIR ELECTRICAL ROOM IS RIGHT HERE.
HOLY COW. DO THEY HAVE THAT FULL? THERE IS NO ELECTRICITY TO BE HAD ANYWHERE.
SO THE ONLY ELECTRICITY WE COULD FIND IS RIGHT ABOUT IN HERE, IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO RUN IT OUT OVER HERE, DOWN IN THE GROUND AND OVER HERE TO THIS STATION.
SO WE COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT IT OVER HERE, WE'D HAVE TO RUN UNDERNEATH THE ASPHALT.
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IF THESE ARE ALL HANDICAPPED SPOTS.SO THIS WAS THE BEST VIABLE OPTION.
SEE THAT. THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT WE'RE ENGAGED.
BY THE WAY, UM, A FEW QUESTIONS.
SO THE FIRST IS, WHEN IT COMES TO HYBRIDS, PLUG IN HYBRIDS, EVS.
WHAT ARE OUR PREDICTED COSTS? AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE EXACT BUT FOR MAINTENANCE LIKE HOW DOES THAT DIFFER BRINGING ON RAV4 HYBRIDS IN A FORD ESCAPE HYBRID? DOES THAT ADD MAINTENANCE COSTS OR DO THOSE REQUIRE LESS MAINTENANCE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? LIKE LONG TERM COST OF VEHICLE? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND PROBABLY SHOULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ROCKING THE AUTOMOTIVE WORLD.
BECAUSE. THEY NEED MUCH LESS MAINTENANCE.
ONE OF THE WHAT OF THE PROBLEMS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN FLEET WITH WITH OUR VEHICLES IS IDLE TIME.
AND IN FLORIDA, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF SHUTTING OFF AND ROLLING YOUR WINDOW DOWN.
SO IT DESTROYS OUR ENGINES BECAUSE.
METRICS THAT I'VE NEVER USED BEFORE, BUT I HAVE LEARNED TO USE.
WE'VE ALWAYS USED THOSE ON TRACTORS AND LAWN MOWERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WE HAD A POLICE CAR, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE HAD JUST DONE A SERVICE ON AND CAME BACK OR SOMETHING.
A COUPLE. HE HAD 90 HOURS RUN.
43 HOURS. ALMOST HALF OF IT WAS IDLE TIME.
BUT SO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HYBRID AND.
THAT WHEN YOU PULL UP TO A STOP, STOP SIGN OR STOP OR YOU'RE IDLING, IT SHUTS OFF.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE HUGE GAINS ARE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A HYBRID VERSUS A CAR, A REGULAR GAS ENGINE, LET'S SAY THAT YOU WORK IN ORLANDO.
THE TYPE OF USE WE PUT ON VEHICLES IS ALL AROUND TOWN.
IT'S STOP AND GO AND THAT'LL BE THE ULTIMATE.
UTILIZATION OF THAT ELECTRICITY.
BREAKING. WHEN YOU GO TO BREAK ON A HYBRID VEHICLE.
SO YOU ACTUALLY ACTUAL BREAKS DON'T ENGAGE UNTIL UNDER FIVE MILES AN HOUR, ACTUALLY BRING YOU TO A COMPLETE STOP. THE REST OF THE TIME IT'S GENERATING ELECTRICITY OF CHARGING IT BACK IN.
SO YOU'RE NOT USING YOUR BRAKES.
SO OIL CHANGES BRAKES AND TAKE THAT INTO AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
SO IN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND IT'S ROCKING, THE THE MORE PREVALENT THEY BECOME.
WELL, THAT TURNS INTO A COST SAVINGS FOR US.
SO ALL OF THE OIL CHANGES THAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO LITERALLY BE DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF OIL CHANGES WE DO ON CARS BECAUSE OF THE HOURS, BECAUSE WE'RE EATING UP ENGINES LIKE WE CAN'T BELIEVE.
THERE'S JUST AS HAPPY AND IDLE AS THEY ARE.
DRIVING 100 MILES AN HOUR, THEY DON'T CARE.
SO MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT.
HOW SIGNIFICANT? WE WILL KNOW ONCE WE ACTUALLY DEPLOY THEM AND START BEING ABLE TO MEASURE THEM CORRECTLY AGAINST WHAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S EXCITING TO HEAR. I ALSO OWN AN EV.
SO PERSONALLY I'VE EXPERIENCED THE MAINTENANCE THING, BUT IT'S NICE TO HEAR THAT THERE ISN'T SOME.
YOU KNOW SOMETHING OF THAT? I DON'T EXPERIENCE THAT OWNING A FLEET.
RIGHT. SO THAT WAS REALLY COOL TO HEAR THAT.
I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. I NOTICED THAT PRIUS WASN'T ON THE LIST.
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NOT THAT I'M LIKE PARTIAL A PRIUS, BUT I'M CURIOUS KNOW THAT IS KIND OF LIKE.A LOT OF TIMES THE FIRST STAPLE.
IT'S THE STAPLE. AND I THINK UNLIKE A TESLA, IT HAS GOOD OPTICS, I THINK.
SO I WAS CURIOUS WHY THAT WASN'T ON THE LIST.
MAYBE. MAYBE I'M MISINTERPRETING.
I THINK PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF UTILITY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONES THAT CHOSE THEIR SUVS.
SO WHEN WE GET I LOOK AT WHAT THEY PEOPLE USE, USE THEM FOR.
LIKE IT, THEY TAKE A BUNCH OF COMPUTERS AND SLIDE THEM IN THE BACK.
SO AND THE COURIERS ARE EITHER HAVING TO OPEN UP A TRUNK AND PUT THEM IN AND.
THE MILEAGE RATING, THE EFFICIENCIES ARE PRACTICALLY THE SAME.
SO MAINLY JUST THE VERSATILITY BEING ABLE TO USE THEM.
BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY ON THE LIST, YOU INDICATED THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY VIABLE OPTIONS.
COULD YOU JUST TALK TO US MORE ABOUT THAT? YEAH, IT'S IT'S TOTALLY VIABLE.
THERE'S NOT A BETTER ARGUMENT FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAN.
THESE COME AGAIN? I JUST TOLD YOU ABOUT AT LEAST TWO WEEKS.
HE 90 HOURS, RIGHT? SO IT'S 100%.
BUT HOLY COW, IS IT EXPENSIVE TO TRY AND BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE? EVEN THE HYBRIDS ARE SUPER EXPENSIVE.
HYBRIDS ARE ESPECIALLY AN OPTION HERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO PURSUIT.
ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE 100% THE FASTEST.
POLICE PURSUIT VEHICLE ON THE MARKET TODAY IS A FORD F-150.
EVER PLAYED WITH A REMOTE CONTROL CAR.
THAT'S HOW IF YOU OWNED ONE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO IT IS IT IS 100% VIABLE, BUT IT NOT COST.
SEE THE GEEKS COMING OUT IN ME.
BUT THEY, THEY HAVE FIRE TRUCKS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE PLUG IN HYBRIDS.
THEY SAY THAT THEY WILL FIGHT A FIRE FOR UP TO 4 HOURS ON BATTERY.
BUT. SIMILAR TO OUR LAWN MOWER.
IT'S LIKE. WHO WOULD PAY THAT? WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD PAY THAT? AND ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE TO BE STEWARDS OF THE CITY'S MONEY.
IT. JUST IT. SO, UM, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY, NOT TO CHALLENGE, BECAUSE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY CAN SOUND CHALLENGING. SORRY.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THERE AREN'T HYBRIDS LIKE A FORD ESCAPE HYBRID THAT WOULDN'T WORK FOR OUR POLICE FLEET? NOT COST EFFECTIVE.
THERE ARE THEY DO EXIST, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT SO EXPENSIVE THAT IT WOULD TAKE SO LONG TO EARN BACK SIMILAR TO LIKE THE XXL FLEET. YES. SO FLEET LIKE IT TAKES SEVEN YEARS AGO BECAUSE WHEN WE BUY THESE DODGE CHARGERS WE CAN ALMOST BUY TWO OF THEM FOR ONE OF THOSE.
REALLY. YEAH. IT'S A SAD PART OF IT BECAUSE IT'S A PERFECT FIT.
ISN'T THE. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS HYBRIDS? MY MY BROTHER IS A DEPUTY, AND HE DRIVES A HYBRID AND.
SO YOU'RE NOT. SO YOU PROBABLY LOOKED AT DATA FROM THEM AND.
YOU CANNOT ARGUE THE FACT THAT IF IF IF WE HAD IT, WE HAD IT HERE.
THERE'S NOT AN ARGUMENT THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE FLORIDA SHERIFFS.
LET'S JUST HOPE THE PRICES COME DOWN.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, WHICH YOU MAY ANSWER IN YOUR PRESENTATION IN A MOMENT.
WHAT DO WE EXPECT? LIKE HOW LONG DO WE EXPECT UNTIL.
100% OF VIABLE OPTIONS ARE WE GOT.
SO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS PLANNING ON 15 F ONE FIFTIES AND F 23 SO FAST WE'RE AND THAT'S ONLY I'VE ONLY BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SO FAR.
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SO COMING ON LINE AS FAST AS WE CAN AND THEN THE ART IS GOING TO BE BUYING THEM.WE WANTED TO DO MORE THIS YEAR, BUT WE JUST COULDN'T.
BUT NOW IT'S ON THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYBODY AND BEING WELL EMBRACED.
THERE'S NOT WHAT I FIRST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE TECHNICIANS.
THERE WAS CERTAINLY NOT RAH RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH TALK TO GO OUT TO THE DEALERSHIPS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS IT'S HERE TO HERE WE NEED TO EMBRACE IT.
I NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S FISCALLY SMART TO DO.
SIMPLE, THOUGH. I LIKE SIMPLE ONES.
SIMPLE. SO I'M A NOVICE AT SOME OF THIS.
I DO SEE THE CHARGING STATIONS I GOT AT KOHL'S.
YES. AND I TALKED TO A GUY ONCE WHO WAS PLUGGING IN AND THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT.
AND I ASKED HIM HOW IT WORKED AND HE SAID HE'S A MEMBERSHIP FEE EVERY MONTH.
AND AND THEN HE JUST GOES AND PLUGS IN AND HE JUST USES HIS CARD.
HE SAID IT WAS TOTALLY WORTH IT FOR THE TIME, FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME HE WAS PLUGGED IN.
IT WAS WORTH LIKE $30 A MONTH OR WHATEVER.
SO MY QUESTION RELATING TO THAT, HOW MANY CARS CAN PLUG INTO ONE STATION, JUST ONE CAR PER PUMP? WELL, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT WE INSTALL AND WHAT ELECTRICITY YOU HAVE AVAILABLE.
TO. SO IT'LL BE ONE STATION, BUT IT'LL SERVE TWO PARKING.
SO EACH ONE OF US WILL HAVE TO.
THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS ON THE WELL RIGHT HERE.
SEE THIS? THIS ROW BACK HERE, MAYBE IN THE BACK, THE PARK, ALL OF OUR F IS THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM, WHICH TAKES ON A WHOLE NOTHER.
SO WE CAN PUT AS MANY AS YOU CAN PROVIDE POWER TO.
YES. SO YOU WERE DESCRIBING THE PATH THAT YOU WOULD BE TAKING TO ROOT ELECTRICITY.
RIGHT. SO WE'RE IN FLORIDA AND WE DO SOLAR AT ALL WITH THAT, AS I WAS THINKING, WHY, WHY WHY CAN'T THE CITY OF PALM BAY BE THE EXAMPLE RESIDENTS AND PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOFS THAT WOULD SUPPLY.
CAN'T. SOLAR CAN'T CHARGE IT FASTER.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SOLAR PANEL TO CHARGE A BATTERY.
CHARGE YOUR CAR SO IT STORES UP THAT ENERGY.
SO AGAIN, YOU GET INTO DOLLARS AND CENTS.
BUT YES, THEY HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY OUT AND THEY'RE KIND OF COOL.
THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE WHAT WE HAVE OUT FRONT, THOSE SOLAR PANELS.
AND YOU PARK UNDERNEATH IT AS A BATTERY, A CHARGING STATION RIGHT THERE.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING I KNOW IN THE MEETINGS I'VE BEEN WITH SUZANNE.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DO HAS TO INCLUDE WE'RE PUTTING.
CAN IT BE OVER OUR GAS PUMPS? THOSE THE CANOPY IS GOING TO BE RATED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD SOLAR PANELS.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO LOOK TO HIS AS AS.
ECONOMIES OF SCALE CHANGE AND WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT.
PRAY FOR THE REST OF THIS. I ONLY GOT ABOUT AN HOUR LEFT.
GOOD. THANK YOU. I HOPE TO BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MY PASSION FOREVER.
AND IT'S COOL THAT SUZANNE EMBRACES THE FACT THAT.
BECAUSE USUALLY IT'S AN UPHILL BATTLE.
GETTING PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU JUST WISH IT WAS AS EASY AS.
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PLUG IN AND. ONE SIZE FITS ALL.IT TOGETHER WITH OTHER POLICE, MUNICIPALITIES AND LEVERAGE PURCHASING POWER.
THAT WAY, I KNOW THERE'S A SUPPLY ISSUE RIGHT NOW FOR A LOT OF VEHICLES, BUT DOWN THE ROAD, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE TO GET A BIG CONTRACT AND MAYBE GET A BREAK. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT FLORIDA STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION CONTRACT IS ALL ABOUT, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ACTUALLY.
I MEAN, BUT BUT IT'S THEY DO SUCH A GOOD JOB OF NEGOTIATING DOWN THE PRICES THAT THEY'RE ALMOST UNMATCHED ANYWHERE. WHICH I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF A NEAT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN, I HOPE.
RELATIONSHIP WITH FORD BECOMES.
EQUAL TO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WHICH THEY DID BID ON THE.
SO I HOPE THAT THEY'RE AWARDED A CONTRACT THERE THAT OPENS US UP TO.
HE'S WE'RE PUTTING IN A FORD INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE A DEALER HERE IN TOWN THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENGAGE.
SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER, I THINK THAT IT COULD HAVE.
SOME ANCILLARY BENEFITS THAT PUSHES FORWARD FASTER AND MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME PREFERENCE ON.
MAYBE WE CAN BUILD AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR.
WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR TIM? IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LOT.
IT'S A LOT OF FORD FORD CARS THAT ARE BECOMING ELECTRIC.
AFTERWARDS. WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
HONDA HAS VERY LIMITED CARS ON THE FSA CONTRACT.
THEY'RE INTERESTED. AND IF YOU GO TO ENTERPRISE RENTAL CAR AND TRY AND RENT A HONDA.
THERE MAY BE A COUPLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT.
SO YES, I'VE LOOKED AT THEM AS I'VE LOOKED AT THEM ON HYDROGEN AS WELL.
MR. HUCKER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO TEST DRIVE THOSE 421 50 LIGHTNINGS, I MEAN, I'D BE GLAD TO COME ALONG.
JUST GIVE YOU MY EXPERT OPINION AS AN OWNER.
YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST TAKE A FIELD TRIP, ACTUALLY, ON BEHALF.
THAT'S THE SAME FIELD TRIP. YEAH, I LOVE TRIPS.
WHO DOESN'T KNOW? BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, SUPER EXCITED.
AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND PASSIONATE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOU DOING.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 23RD.SO PLEASE GO AHEAD AND REVIEW THOSE MINUTES.
AND THEN IF SOMEONE FEELS SO COMPELLED, GO AHEAD AND.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM.
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
ALL IN FAVOR. I AND HE OPPOSED IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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ALL RIGHT. SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE THING IN NEW BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA, AND I'M VERY EXCITED FOR US TO CHAT ABOUT IT.[NEW BUSINESS]
SO. BASED ON OUR MEETING LAST MONTH.BUT THE BIG HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR EACH OF US WAS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME VISIONS AND IDEAS? THAT WAS SUSTAINABILITY FAIR HERE IN PALM BAY.
WE CAN KIND OF START AT THE END WITH SUSAN AND AND WORK OUR WAY DOWN.
WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE, MISS CONNOLLY? WE'LL TAKE THAT ON.
WHEN I LEFT AT OUR LAST MEETING, I'VE BEEN PUTTING MY MIND ON WANTING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THAT OF THE TRADITIONAL FAIRS.
WHAT I CAME UP WITH IS THAT THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING IN BOMBAY.
AND I THINK THERE IS GREAT POTENTIAL THAT HE COULD BE A LEADER AND WE MIGHT EVEN BE A LEADER, BUT.
FRAGMENTED AND OUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEORIES OF FORMS OR SUMMITS OR THINGS THAT WHERE OUR CITY OFFICIALS WOULD BE INVOLVED, OUR COUNCIL WOULD BE INVOLVED, THE CITIZENS INVOLVED.
AND THE FIRST ONE I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS HAVING SUSTAINABILITY DISCUSSIONS, AND IT COULD BE TITLED FRAMING AND DOING. AND THE OTHER ONE, AGAIN, COULD BE A FOCUS ON CONVERSATION, MAYBE WITH CITY OFFICIALS OR TO A TOWN HALL OR WHATEVER.
AND THAT COULD FOCUS ON CREATION AND CONTROVERSY.
AS I THINK AS YOU GO FORWARD, THERE ARE SOME CONTROVERSIAL THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
AND I THINK THE MORE WE KNOW AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT BASICALLY TO GET THE CONVERSATION, TO GET THE DISCUSSION GOING AND OUR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, IF YOU REMEMBER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT LACKED BECAUSE WE CAME IN.
THE PLAN THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN IN MOTION FOR SEVERAL YEARS WAS WE NEVER REALLY GOT THAT LETTER FROM CITY COUNCIL OF WHAT VISION IS OR. THEY I THINK WE MIGHT WAY I THINK THAT IS GOOD THAT INSTEAD OF IT COMING FROM ABOVE OR FROM A FEW PEOPLE THAT WE CAN CREATE THAT SERIES OF FORMS. AND OF COURSE THEY COULD ALL BE OUTSIDE AND THEY MIGHT BE AT ONE OF OUR CHARGING STATIONS OR OUR NEXT SITE FOR THE BUILDING E OR AT THE LAGOON HOUSE OR JUST SO MANY.
SO I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AS A WAY OF INTRODUCING OURSELVES, THE BOARD AND OUR IDEA.
HOW I WANTED TO APPROACH THAT.
AND ONE WOULD I HAD, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE, BUT I THOUGHT WE COULD DEFINE SUSTAINABILITY, EXPLAIN OUR ROLE TO BE RESEARCH, RECOMMEND, RECOGNIZE.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD HAVE.
SEPARATE AREAS SET UP FOR OUR SEPARATE CATEGORIES WHERE MAYBE THERE WOULD BE SOME PEOPLE WITH THEIR BOOTHS AND SOME IDEA OF WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IN THAT CATEGORY AND WHAT WE'RE.
ACKNOWLEDGING OR HOPE TO ACHIEVE.
SO LIKE LAND AND WATER, IF WE HAD IT AT A PARK, WE COULD HAVE A NATIVE PLANT, BUT A NATIVE BUTTERFLY GARDEN OR SOMETHING PUT IN AND HAVE THAT BE A DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT WE HOPE TO ACHIEVE.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE VENDORS.
WE'RE NOT VENDORS MAYBE, BUT EDUCATIONAL PEOPLE.
SO WE COULD HAVE SIGNAGE AND SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE HOPE OUR CITY CAN BE MORE MORE LIKE THIS.
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THERE COULD BE UNDER THAT, THERE COULD BE PEOPLE EDUCATING ABOUT FERTILIZERS, POSSIBLY A COMPARISON OF CITY WATER VERSUS, WELL, WATER, BOTH OF THEM UNTREATED, MAYBE A MAP OF CANAL SHOWING WHICH ONES DRAIN.MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD PUT RAIN BARRELS.
SO BUILT ENVIRONMENT COULD BE.
WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE A SOLAR ENERGY COOPERATIVE.
WE TALK ABOUT THE CITIES, SOLAR.
GOALS. AND THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE WITH VENDORS TO WHO DO THIS WORK.
WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY WHO SELLS ELECTRIC BICYCLES.
WHAT THE CITY IS DOING AGAIN WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THERE.
AND INNOVATIVE WASTE MANAGEMENT.
WE COULD HAVE THAT COMPOSTING.
CFPB OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN MELBOURNE, MAYBE.
MAYBE A GAME WHERE WE GIVE PEOPLE DIFFERENT THINGS AND SAY, HAVE A BARREL.
IS IT TRASH OR IS IT RECYCLING? SCORE THEM, YOU KNOW, SEE WHO KNOWS WHAT GOES WHERE AND AND HAVE HANDOUTS ABOUT WHERE AND HOW TO DISPOSE OF STUFF.
AND OF COURSE, SINCE IT'S OUR FIRST ONE, WE'D WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE PEOPLE OR PEOPLE TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND SAY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEIR.
THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHT OF HOW OUR FIRST ONE COULD MAYBE LOOK.
HAVING IT MORE THAN IT OCCUR TO ME TO HAVE IT OVER SEVERAL DAYS.
THEY'RE LIKE THIS A LONG TIME AGO.
VIA MIDDLETOWN. EVERYBODY WAS ON THE.
THOUGHT SHOULD HAPPEN. EVERYBODY WANTED.
MY EXPERIENCE, PALM BAY IS A VERY DIVERSE.
AND AT TIMES IT FEELS KIND OF FRAGMENTED.
I GAVE THIS A LOT OF THOUGHT THE PAST FEW DAYS, ESPECIALLY.
AND IT'S A BROAD STROKE UMBRELLA.
SO FOR SOME OF THE DAYS, I THOUGHT.
ONE EVENT TO HAVE MUSIC AND ATTRACT PEOPLE TO COME MUSIC, BUT ALSO MAYBE HAVE AN INFORMATION TABLE WHERE PEOPLE LEARN WHAT SUSTAINABILITY IS AND WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR IT TO.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DURABLE AND VIABLE AND RENEWABLE AND FOR ME, HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
SORRY. SENIOR CITIZEN WHO HAS MEDICAL NEEDS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.
OKAY. YEAH, I'M ON THE EDGE OF MY CHAIR NOW, EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO AND ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY IS STUFF HAPPENS.
WE WE HAVE EVENTS GOING ON ALL THE TIME IN PALM BAY.
BUT MY NEIGHBOR IS REALLY WELL INFORMED AND SHE'S ON A MAILING LIST AND SHE NEVER KNOWS ANYTHING.
WHEN I TOLD HER ABOUT THE TRASH PICKUP, SHE'S LIKE, REALLY? AND I THOUGHT, HOW DO YOU GET THE WORD OUT? WELL, MY UNDERGRAD WAS IN BROADCASTING.
AND YOU TELL IT, DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK A MIC.
THEY DID. THERE'S PIECES AND I THOUGHT, YOU CAN REACH PEOPLE IN TRAFFIC.
98.5 EVERYBODY IS LISTENING TO SUPER DAVE EVERY DAY AND YOU COULD REACH PEOPLE.
THEY'RE FREE AND THEY HAVE TO DO SO MANY OF THEM.
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AND SO YOU COULD DO A PSA ON THE RADIO, GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.WE'RE GOING TO TEACH EVERYBODY HOW TO BE SUSTAINABLE.
YOU KNOW, HOW TO LIVE GREENER AND CLEANER IN THIS AREA BECAUSE WE CAN WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY.
SO THAT WAS ONE BIG IDEA I HAD.
IF WE DID DO IT LIKE A FAIR AND WE HAD A DAY WHERE WE HAD VENDORS, WHEREVER WE HAVE THEM, WE COULD JUST OFFER IDEAS AND CONCEPTS SO THAT JUST TO GET PEOPLE THINKING THAT IT'S NOT A COMPLICATED THING, THEY CAN INCLUDE THIS STUFF IN THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE.
SO IT'S NOT TO STOP THEM FROM EATING IT, BUT TO GET THEM THINKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE EATING.
THE OTHER STUFF I HAD WRITTEN DOWN, I WAS BRAINSTORMING AND DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ONLINE IS SOLAR PANELS, WHICH IS WHY I WAS THINKING OF THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE BUSINESSES GOING AROUND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY AND INSTALL THE SOLAR PANELS AND I THOUGHT, THIS IS A PRIME LOCATION FOR IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SUN AND SO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THAT CAN SAVE THEM A LOT OF MONEY ON ELECTRICITY.
I'VE BEEN DOING RESEARCH ON THAT TOO BECAUSE WE HAVE CHICKENS NEXT DOOR AND THEY DIG EVERYTHING UP.
BUT THERE ARE BOXES YOU CAN GET AT LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT WHERE YOU CAN CREATE A GARDEN LIKE THAT AND YOU CAN TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO RAISE THEIR OWN FOOD, WHICH IS ALSO HELPFUL IN A TIME WHEN THE ECONOMY IS SKYROCKETING AND PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY STUFF.
ALSO TO LEARN THE PROPER WAY TO RECYCLE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES IN THE BIN.
AND I'VE LIVED IN PLACES WHERE IT'S MARKED ON THE BIN, WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT PUT IN IT.
THIS WILD HAIR IDEA THAT SO FAR THE CITY'S REJECTED.
MY NEIGHBOR ACTUALLY WROTE A LETTER ON MY BEHALF.
SHE FORGOT TO INCLUDE ME, BUT I WAS LIKE, WHY CAN'T THEY DO THIS? BECAUSE I LIVED IN AN ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED AREA.
THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS $6 AN HOUR, BUT THEY RECYCLED GLASS.
AND SO I'M LIKE, WELL, IF OUR KID OF CALIFORNIA CAN DO IT, WE CAN DO IT.
THEY LITERALLY HAD THE GLASS CRUSHING FACILITY IN THE BACK OF THE RECYCLING AREA, AND THEY SHIPPED IT INLAND TO REDDING WHERE THEY MELTED IT DOWN AND RECYCLED IT. AND I THOUGHT, WE CAN DO THIS.
I KNOW WE CAN DO THIS, BUT I HEAR IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE.
BUT I STILL THINK WE COULD FIND MONEY SOMEHOW TO CREATE THAT MAKE THAT HAPPEN ANYWAY.
OTHER OPTIONS ARE TO TEACH PEOPLE TO BUY USED CLOTHING AND GO TO GOODWILL AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT AND RECYCLE CLOTHING, LEARN TO REPURPOSE ITEMS INSTEAD OF JUST TOSSING EVERYTHING IN THE BIN.
IT'S JUST REALLY SIMPLE STUFF.
BUT THERE ARE AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE IT'S SAFE TO BIKE RIDE ALSO THAT THE FERTILIZER AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE LAST MONTH, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T KNOW WHEN TO FERTILIZE.
THIS IS WHERE THE FERTILIZERS GO, THIS IS HOW WE'RE KILLING THE MANATEES AND JUST EDUCATION, TEACHING THEM ABOUT THE CLEAN DRINKING WATER AND ALSO INFORMING PEOPLE ABOUT READING LABELS ON THE FOOD THAT THEY'RE EATING AND BUYING UNWRAPPED PRODUCE IN THE GROCERY STORE.
THERE'S LIKE WHEN I LOOKED AT SUSTAINABILITY, I'M LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO ANYBODY? SO AND THESE ARE ALL JUST SIMPLE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY CAN DO.
ONE WAS USING DISHWASHERS INSTEAD OF WASHING DISHES BY HAND BECAUSE YOU SAVE WATER.
BUT THE LAST BIG THING IS ELIMINATING PLASTIC.
AND THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG PET PEEVE OF MINE.
AND IF YOU DID IT OVER DAYS, YOU KNOW, AND HAD DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO LIVE MORE SUSTAINABLY, THEY'RE SAVING THE ENVIRONMENT.
THEY'RE SAVING SOMETHING FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND.
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THERE'S ARBOR DAY AND THAT KIND OF THING.AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
IT'S ALSO GOING TO AFFECT WEATHER PATTERNS EVENTUALLY.
SO WE COULD HAVE THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATE IN PLANTING TREES AND EVEN IF IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD TO PUT PLAQUES UP OR SOMETHING, THIS TREE WAS DONATED BY THIS FAMILY. AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S A LEGACY THAT THEY'RE LEAVING FOR THE CITY AND FOR THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR FAMILY.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ELIMINATING PLASTIC BAGS FROM THE GROCERY STORES.
I KNOW ALDI'S DOESN'T HAVE PLASTIC BAGS.
ANOTHER GENTLEMAN I SPOKE TO SAID, I THINK SAM'S CLUB DOESN'T.
THEY'VE DONE THIS IN SANTA FE AND THEY'VE DONE IT IN SAN FRANCISCO.
I KNOW OTHER CITIES THAT ARE ALSO ELIMINATING SINGLE USE PLASTIC BOTTLES.
AND A PERSON FROM THE CITY ACTUALLY WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION THIS WEEK IS TO PLANT FRUIT TREES IN THE PARKS BECAUSE IT'LL FEED PEOPLE. AND IT ALSO IS IS CREATING HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE AND BUTTERFLIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THE LAST THING FOR SUSTAINABILITY IS WORKING WITH THE RESTAURANTS LOCALLY TO DONATE FOOD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TOSS TO SHELTERS, AND THEY CAN DONATE IT TO FOOD BANKS AND SHELTERS.
THAT'S ALSO DONE IN OTHER CITIES.
I THINK THEY STARTED IT IN FRANCE.
THEY STARTED DONATING THEIR FOOD SO IT DOESN'T GO TO WASTE AND IT DOESN'T JUST GET TOSSED.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A LOT, BUT ONCE I STARTED RESEARCHING LIKE, WHAT IS SUSTAINABILITY? I THOUGHT, WELL, IF YOU MAKE IT PERSONAL TO PEOPLE, LIKE GETTING A REUSABLE BAG TO TAKE INTO WAL-MART, I DO THAT ALL THE TIME.
IF PEOPLE JUST STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S EASY.
YEAH, I AGREE. AND I LOVE THE IDEAS FLOWING OUT.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUST HEARING THE THREE OF YOU THAT WE NAILED REALLY WELL IS, IS WHAT CAN PEOPLE DO? AND HAVING AN EMPHASIS ON EDUCATION, WHICH I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, I THINK WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS, UM, THERE, SO I WOULD HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TAKE A LITTLE BIT.
SO WHEN WE TRAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU ASK QUESTION, THE TRAINEE IS GOING TO ASK LIKE, WHY DO I CARE? WHY DO I GIVE A RIP? WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME? AND FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW ALL OF US WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, TO SAVE THE PLANET YOU LIVE ON.
AND I GET THAT. BUT I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM THE AVERAGE RESIDENT AND FROM WHEN I WAS IMAGINING THIS, I WANTED I WAS THINKING ABOUT AN EVENT THAT WOULD MEET.
BE BLUNT, SOME OF THE ENTERTAINMENT NEEDS, LIKE JUST FUN, YOU KNOW.
AND SO I DID HAVE IN MY MIND A ONE DAY EVENT FOR OUR FIRST GO ROUND AT SUSTAINABILITY, JUST AS SUSTAINABILITY FAIR BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT'S A LOWER BAR TO CLEAR FOR NOW. UM, I WAS THINKING WEEKEND MIDDAY, PRIME TIME WE COULD DO THE DEGROOTE LIBRARY'S CLOSED ON ONE DAY. I DON'T REMEMBER IT SHIFT SATURDAY, BUT AND I'D LOVE TO DO IT HERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE CAN CLEAR IT WITH THIS REALLY NICE LADY, THEN PERHAPS IT COULD SAVE US COSTS.
BUT JUST EARLY ON, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR FIRST FAIR KIND OF AIM FOR A BAR THAT WE KNOW WE COULD CLEAR THAT WE CAN DEVELOP SOME POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS THAT COME, BUT THE BUSINESSES OR PARTNER GROUPS THAT PARTICIPATE AND ALSO HAVE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GUARANTEE WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL. TO GET STARTED ON A FIRST TIME.
AND THEN SOME OF THE IDEAS I THINK WERE REALLY SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT I HEARD IS IF WE HAD IT HERE ON A WEEKEND, IT WOULD BE AMAZING IF WE COULD HAVE EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS THAT HAPPEN IN HERE. AND AS PEOPLE COME, THEY GET, OH, HEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAUGHT IN 20 MINUTES.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE THING ON HOW WE CAN USE RAIN BARRELS, INSTALL RAIN BARRELS, AND THEN WE COULD PARTNER WITH LOCAL GROUPS SUCH AS KEEP OF OUR BEAUTIFUL AND SUCH TO NOT JUST HAVE EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS.
WHAT GETS RECYCLED AND WHAT DOESN'T GET RECYCLED.
MY WIFE CORRECTS ME EVERY WEEK.
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I JUST. IT'S SO COMPLICATED, YOU KNOW? LIKE, WHEN DID WE STOP RECYCLING GLASS BOTTLES? I'M NOT SAYING IT'S ANYBODY'S FAULT, BUT I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THE THING? SO, YOU KNOW, LONG STORY SHORT, I ALWAYS PUT THE PIZZA BOX IN THE WRONG BIN.YOU KNOW, SO, SO BUT YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL GAMES FOR KIDS THAT THAT WILL BRING ADULTS IN AND HAVE A LOT OF WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME IS FOOD TRUCKS THAT NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO ONLY OFFER A CERTAIN THING BUT WE CAN ALLOW VENDORS IN FOR SMALL FEES, BUT WE CAN ALLOW WE CAN COMMIT ALL THOSE FEES TO A PARTICULAR PROGRAM THAT WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
NOW IT'S FUN. YOU KNOW, IT'S FUN LIKE IT'S GAMES FOR THE KIDS.
BUT WE CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD BE INTERACTIVE AND PUT THE ONUS AND BURDEN ON THEM.
AND WE CAN SAY THINGS LIKE, IF YOU CREATE AN ACTIVITY AND SUPPLIES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY A FEE.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT WHAT WAS IN MY NOGGIN.
BUT I DO LOVE, OF COURSE, THE THINGS LIKE MUSIC AND BANDS, BUT LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANT TO KEEP I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY, WHATEVER VISION WE KIND OF COME FORTH WE NEED TO PRESENT.
BUT I'M KIND OF HOPING THAT WE CAN KEEP THE BAR LOW, WHICH SOUNDS TERRIBLE, BUT I'D LOVE FOR A SUCCESSFUL 2023 SUSTAINABILITY FAIR THAT DEVELOPS POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS AND GIVES US THE CREDIBILITY TO DO A 2024 FAIR.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MAYBE A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE CAME.
SO A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO COME TO THE NEXT YEAR IF IT WAS A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
WELCOME. I'LL BE HERE PROBABLY FOR ANOTHER 40 MINUTES.
I THINK NOW THAT EVERYONE'S HAD A KIND OF CHANCE TO SHARE, KIND OF MAYBE OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION, WHAT ARE OUR THOUGHTS? AND I THINK I'D LIKE TO DRIVE IT TOWARDS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A UNIFIED VISION THAT WE CAN PRESENT TO THE CITY.
THAT'S A GOOD CALL. I THINK WE OVERLAPPED ON EDUCATION, LIKE EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS AND THINGS.
IS EVERYONE OKAY? AND AS WE MAKE SURE I GOT MY NOTES, TELL ME.
EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS WAS DEFINITELY AN AREA OF OVERLAP.
AND THE BEES ARE A REALLY BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO. HAVING A BOOTH THAT'S INTERACTIVE, ESPECIALLY FOR CHILDREN, TEACHING THEM HOW THINGS GROW.
AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE THAT HOME AND WITH THEIR PARENTS AND WATCH IT GROW.
AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S A TAKE AWAY.
WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME? AND THEN THEY GET TOMATOES OUT OF IT.
MISS JACKSON. SO IF WE COULD KIND OF IF WE JUST BE LIKE SUPER KIND OF OVERVIEW AND ONCE YOU KIND OF NAIL LIKE AN OVERVIEW, THEN WE'LL KIND OF SEE WHAT VENDORS ARE AVAILABLE, WHAT PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE. SO, BUT I, I LOVE BEES AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I LOVE BEES.
AND I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE I'M NOT CARING ABOUT THE BEES.
OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. AND I'M HOPING WE CAN HEAR WHAT LESLIE HAS TO SAY, TOO, ABOUT THIS NEXT MEETING AND NOT CLOSE IT OFF TOO MUCH TO WHAT HER INPUT WOULD BE.
TELLING PEOPLE AHEAD OF TIME THAT THEY NEED TO PREPARE.
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I KNOW BREVARD ZOO, FOR INSTANCE, IS GREAT ABOUT INVOLVING HAVING KIDS ACTIVITIES WHILE THEY'RE THERE, BUT A LOT OF THE FAIRS I'VE BEEN TO ARE KIND OF GEARED TOWARD ADULTS. THEY'RE NOT REALLY GEARED TOWARD KIDS OR FUN ACTIVITIES, AND CERTAINLY.UM. WE WANT THEM TO COME BACK.
SO YEAH, THAT'S TO BE KIND OF IT CAN'T BE TOO HEAVY.
IN OTHER WORDS, TOO LIKE DOWN.
I LIKED A LOT OF WHAT I HEARD FROM PEOPLE AND KEEPING IT SMALL A FIRST YEAR AND MANAGEABLE IS.
LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING HERE WE ARE THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY.
THEY IN SHERMAN AND SOME OF THE STAFF.
A. FUNNY BECAUSE IN MY MIND IT WAS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO BE AT FRED POPPY PARK.
SO THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING I GO TO HERE IS AT FRED POPPY PARK.
I LOVE THE IDEA THAT BEING HERE AND THAT'S ACTUALLY.
BUT I WAS THINKING LIKE EVEN IF WE DID IT AROUND THE CITY EVENTUALLY BECAUSE IT IS.
THE PALM BAY SIT ALL THE OFFICES AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING.
SEMINARS. AN HOUR AND A HALF PRESENTATIONS.
YOU CAN ALSO IT'S LIKE THE LIKE YOU AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH.
FASCINATING INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW THEY'RE HOW THINGS ARE BEING PRESERVED AND FORWARD MOMENTUM, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO LIVE SUSTAINABLY IN THE CITY OF BOMBAY.
OH, I LOVE THAT. BEING ABLE TO HAVE USE THE DIFFERENT ROOMS AND MAYBE WORK WITH OTHER BOARDS.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING AND WHAT WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE, THAT IT IS A REALLY BIG COLLABORATIVE EVENT, AS FRAGMENTED AS I FEEL LIKE PALM BAY IS SOMETIMES. BROUGHT EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
AND THEN THE CITY COULD. RESIDENTS CAN SEE.
LOOK AT WHAT THE CITY IS DOING.
ISN'T THAT WHAT THEY SAY? THAT YOU LEARN MORE WHEN YOU'RE LAUGHING? SO YOU SIT THERE AND YOU KNOW SOMEBODY'S GOING ON AND ON AND ON.
YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GET UP AND, OH, I HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.
BUT IF IT'S INTERESTING AND FUNNY AND FUN.
I'M GOING TO PULL ANOTHER TEACHER TACTIC AND I'M GOING TO REPEAT BACK WHAT I'M HEARING.
SO. I THINK BASED ON LAST MEETING WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOPEFULLY APRIL 20, 23.
I'M ON THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A SMALL THAT'S RELATIVE.
WE'LL NEED CITI TO HELP US DEFINE THAT SMALLER SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
THAT WOULD BE OUR AGREEMENT ONE DAY ON THE WEEKEND.
DEPENDS ON THE DAY. SO MAYBE WE GET CITY'S RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
SOME. OR IS IT BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE COMING BUT COULD BE DIFFICULT TO FIND VENDORS AND PARTNERS.
MAYBE. WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET THAT.
I THINK NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ASK ON CITY STAFF.
AND SO. BUT WE SOME OF THE THINGS WE KNOW WE WANT ARE CHANCES FOR EDUCATION, SUCH AS SEMINARS, WHICH ARE COOL AND THEN INTERACTIVE AND FUN ELEMENTS.
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IN FOOD. GOD BLESS FOOD.YOU KNOW, THE NICEST THING THE LORD EVER DID WAS MAKE US EAT.
BUT THE ONE OF THE THINGS I WONDERED ABOUT WAS IF WE WERE GOING TO STRIVE FOR ZERO WASTE OR.
SHERMAN. WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS IS GO AHEAD.
YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN LISTENING TO OUR DISCUSSION.
IT THE STAFF'S THOUGHTS, BLESSINGS, ADVICE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND THEN WE'D BE EACH ABLE TO KIND OF TAKE A SECTION OF THAT WORK ON THAT IN BETWEEN MEETINGS EACH MONTH WITH THE GOAL, OBVIOUSLY, OF HAVING A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR ABOUT 12 MONTHS FROM NOW.
IT'S ALWAYS WE'RE IGNORANT AND WE NEED HELP.
SO WHAT WOULD THE NEXT STEPS BE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE OR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO MOVE THIS INITIATIVE FORWARD? SUZANNE SHERMAN, CITY MANAGER.
SO IF WE'RE WORKING WITH OUTSIDE GROUPS, YOU ARE NOT AN OUTSIDE GROUP.
BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, WE USUALLY SIT AROUND THE TABLE WITH SOME OF OUR KEY TEAM MEMBERS INTERNALLY AND THE GROUP THAT WANTS TO PUT ON THE EVENT AND HAVING A YEAR TO PLAN IT IS GREAT.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WE CAN MAKE IT A REALLY GREAT EVENT HAVING THAT MUCH.
I CAN ALSO BRING STAFF TO THESE MEETINGS WHEN THE TIME COMES AND WE CAN.
BUT SOME OF THIS IS ALL ABOUT LOGISTICS.
IT'S LIKE PICK A DAY, START PLANNING WHO'S GOING TO.
WHO'S GOING TO REACH OUT TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF VENDORS LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FIVE CATEGORIES OF THE PLAN AND MAYBE EACH TAKE A SECTION AND YOU REACH OUT TO VENDORS IN THOSE CATEGORIES. THAT'S ALL GREAT.
RIGHT. TINY AMOUNT IF IT'S, IF THERE IS A COST.
SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHERE THAT GOES.
AFTER THAT, IT COULD GO TO A CITY FUNDED SUSTAINABILITY PROJECT 100%.
IT JUST GOING TO GO LIKE OUT TO A NONPROFIT THAT WE RANDOMLY CHOOSE.
SO THERE'D BE THINGS WE'D HAVE TO FOLLOW.
OR IF YOU IF YOU PREFER TO EACH PERSON TAKE A LITTLE SECTION, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL HAVE OUR RECREATION DIRECTOR COME TO ONE OF YOUR SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THIS IS THIS IS HOW WE WOULD LOGISTICALLY WORK THROUGH THIS.
YOU GIVE US SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS.
YOU START GIVING US VENDORS, WE'LL GIVE THEM TO THIS STAFF PERSON, TRY TO COMMIT PEOPLE.
I MEAN, A YEAR OUT, I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL COMMIT OFFICIALLY, BUT WE CAN TRY.
BUT EVERYTHING YOU'VE LAID OUT IS DOABLE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THE ONE DAY SIMPLY BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, I APPRECIATE IT.
THERE'S OVERTIME FOR STAFF, SO ONE DAY WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO START TO MAKE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
DOING IT HERE IS NOT A PROBLEM.
USING FACILITIES FOR TRAINING.
WE CAN HAVE FOOD TRUCKS, WE CAN HAVE MUSIC, WE CAN WORK ON ALL THE THINGS YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT.
I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS SO I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING BECAUSE I'M CHAIRING.
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I MEAN, YOU GOT THE GAVEL, YOU GET TO USE AND IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE.AND IF WE CAN VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THIS PROJECT FOR 11 MONTHS.
SO MAYBE WE COULD COMMIT TO A VOTE NEXT MONTH FOR THIS.
AND I THINK SOMEONE'S TO A COMMISSION FOR THAT.
AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN ALSO MAKE A MOTION TO SEE IF RECREATION CAN COME TO OUR MEETING NEXT MONTH.
AND YES, AND THE OTHER THING I'M NEGLECTING TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE I'M PLUGGING BACK IN.
SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE COULD DO, I MEAN, I KNOW WE PUT A LOT ON YOUR YOUR PLATE AS WE TALKED EARLIER IN THE WEEK, BUT LEX CAN ALSO DO ME GOOD. WHAT SAID? HAND IT TO ME. SHE'S READY.
I LOVE IT. SO ONE THING SHE COULD BE IS ACTUALLY THE LEAD PERSON WORKING WITH STAFF, WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU TO KIND OF PULL YOUR IDEAS, PULL INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE VENDORS AND TRY TO HELP FUNNEL THAT THROUGH.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY WE COULD DO IT AS WELL.
SO WE'LL STAY TUNED ON THE MOST EFFICIENT PATH.
THEN JUST, UM, IN CASE I'M NOT HERE WHEN YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY CHOOSING PEOPLE.
YEAH, MUSIC WISE, YOU GUYS HAVE MENTIONED MUSIC.
I KNOW EVERYONE AT MY SCHOOL AT FLORIDA TECH LOVES A BAND CALLED THE SPRING, AND THEY ARE VERY INTO WORKING AND DOING VOLUNTEERING AND ALL THAT.
SO. ALL RIGHT, WE MAY HAVE OUR FIRST.
WHAT WERE THEY CALLED? THE WHAT? THE SPRING THE SPRING LIKE SPRINGS OF WATER OR THE THE THE WORD THE AND THEN THE SEASONS.
YOU KNOW. DON'T WORRY. ME TOO.
I JUST GO WHERE MY FRIENDS TELL ME I'M NOT HIP.
PROBLEM IS, I DON'T. I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FRIENDS ANYMORE.
LIKE, I DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYONE.
THAT'S NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT TRUE.
ANOTHER OVERLAP MIGHT BE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS DECLARED APRIL TO BE WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.
THEY COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THEY DO. THEY'RE ALREADY IN MOTION.
SO THAT MIGHT BE OUR FIRST PARTNER.
UTILITIES IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
SOIL MAINTENANCE DON'T PUT STUFF IN SWALE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THERE'S A LONG LIST.
DO WE NEED TO PASS A MOTION TO ASK RECREATION TO COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING? WELL, LET ME. I'LL JUST.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PASS A MOTION.
YEAH, I'LL FIND OUT IF FRED IS AVAILABLE.
THEN WE'LL HAVE HIM COME AND TALK ABOUT THE VINCE PROCESS.
IF HE'S NOT, THEN I WOULD JUST DO IT AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING.
SO PERFECT. AND I'M SORRY, FRED.
POPPY IS A RECREATION DIRECTOR.
I'M. UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE AND I'D LOVE A CORRECTION FROM WRONG, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'D BE INTERESTED IN MAYBE VOTING NEXT MEETING AT OUR PATH GOING FORWARD, WHETHER THAT'S APPOINTING SOMEONE HAVING SEX.
OKAY. LEXA TAKE IT OR OR SPLITTING TASKS.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE MIGHT BE SOME OF THE OPTIONS.
SO WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION? ALONG THOSE LINES.
NOT YET. WHY DON'T YOU? HANDS ARE TIED, FOLKS.
YES. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR US.
WE LEARNED LAST MEETING THAT TO DISCUSS SOMETHING.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT ON THE AGENDA.
SO LET'S MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH TO.
DECIDE HOW OUR INTERACTION WILL BE MANAGED WITH THE CITY AND.
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OKAY I MOVE THAT WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH THAT WE.AND IF IT'S HELPFUL, WE CAN JUST HAVE A STANDING ITEM ON THE AGENDA SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO PRIORITIZE AND IT CAN BE A JUST CONTINUOUS REOCCURRING BUSINESS ITEM. YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? STILL WANT TO GET LESLIE'S INPUT.
SO I MOVE THAT WE HAVE A STANDING ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE.
YOU LEARN MORE WHEN YOU LAUGH, RIGHT? WE. REALLY? DO YOU WANT TO JUST ASK AMONG US RIGHT NOW? I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A LIAISON.
BUT IF WE ALREADY KNOW, WE CAN BEGIN TO.
I MEAN, WE COULD DEFINITELY PUT A MOTION FORTH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN MIND.
UM, I KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY WAIT FOR LESLIE, AND.
SHERMAN DID A REALLY GOOD JOB EXPLAINING THAT THERE'S A FEW OPTIONS FOR US TO TAKE.
GIVING UP, JOINING ALEXA OR ANY ONE OF US.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THERE MIGHT BE SOME VOLUNTEERS THAT JUST NEED.
YOU KNOW, SOME TIME TO LOOK AT A CALENDAR BEFORE MAKING A LARGE COMMITMENT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION RELATED TO NEW BUSINESS ONE A.
[OTHER BUSINESS]
BEFORE WE GO TO OURSELVES, IS THERE.DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY EVENTS OF INTEREST TO TALK ABOUT TODAY? I'M SO SORRY. I FEEL LIKE I JUST ASK SOMEBODY A QUESTION THE MOMENT THEY PUT SOMETHING IN THEIR MOUTH TO CHEW, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, I'M SORRY.
IS. WE WATCHED THE LORAX IN THE PARK.
ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FROM OUR, UH, ADVISORY BOARD? SUSAN. I ALWAYS LIKE TO MENTION.
MONTH WAS A REALLY BIG MONTH BIRTHDAY AND WE HAD THE TRASH BASH CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCED THAT WE PUT IN OUR SECOND SOLAR FIELD OTHER BAFFLE BOX AND AND LIKE I SAID, THE PALM BAY UTILITIES THE WATER CONSERVATION I THINK.
SOLID LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE LAST YEAR AND THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE IT IN JULY.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BUT NEED TO BE AWARE.
AND YOU HAD MENTIONED CLEAR CUTTING TREES AND SO THERE ARE THINGS ON BAY IS ON THE MAP WITH IN TERMS OF. SINCE BECOMING INVOLVED IN THE GOVERNMENT AND MAKING A CHANGE, SOME OF THE SURROUNDING CITIZENS COMMUNITIES LIKE TITUSVILLE, HAS PRESENTED TO THEIR CITY COUNCIL A CLEAN WATER ACT.
AND THEY HAVE EVEN GONE THAT THEY WILL PRESENT THAT ON THE STATE OF FLORIDA LEVEL.
THEY HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
AND SO THERE IS ALSO A GROUP, THE BREVARD SUSTAINABILITY WORKING GROUP.
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THAT MEETS MONTHLY AND THIS MONTH SOROS IS THERE AS I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A MUNICIPALITY REPRESENTATIVE. THERE ARE MANY.FROM OUR OUR NEIGHBORING AREAS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT THIS MONTH WAS THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE BEACH, THAT MAYOR WYATT HOOVER HAD HAD A SUMMIT CALLED THE LAGOON LEADERSHIP.
TAKE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY WORKING GROUP, ASKING THAT GROUP TO WORK WITH THEIR LEADERS ON THE LAGOON, TO LOOK AT CITIES TO GET THE ORDINANCES AND.
BARRIERS TO SHARE INFORMATION.
FIRST OFF, AMONG. AND TO LOOK AT ANY BARRIERS THAT WOULD PREVENT.
AND I AM PROUD TO SAY I'M ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
US BEING COPIED ON THAT AND JUST THE IDEA OF WORKING COLLABORATIVELY AND OTHER AREAS.
REBECCA. WELL, I JUST WANT TO.
NOT THAT IT'S SUPER VITAL, BUT JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL BE PERTINENT.
I WON'T BE HERE AT OUR NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I'LL BE CELEBRATING TEN YEARS OF BEING MARRIED.
AND I'M GOING TO BE MARRIED LONGER THAN I'M GOING TO BE ON THIS BOARD, SO I'LL BE OUT.
BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I WON'T.
I WON'T BE IN ATTENDANCE, NOR WILL I BE THINKING ABOUT ANY OF YOU.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER REAL, UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER UPCOMING MEETINGS.
AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? IT'S GOT. MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL IN FAVOR. HI.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.