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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022 DASH TEN TO ORDER ON MAY 5TH, 2022.

[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:07]

THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR KEN DELGADO OF THE HOUSE AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY OUR DEPUTY MAYOR, KENNY JOHNSON.

PLEASE RISE. HATS OFF.

HAPPY, BLESSED NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.

AND I'M SO HONORED TO LEAD THIS INVOCATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO READ FROM ONE OF OUR FOREFATHERS, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, WHO MANY HISTORIANS SAY HE WASN'T A VERY RELIGIOUS MAN.

AND YET I'D LIKE TO READ WHAT THIS SUPPOSEDLY NOT VERY RELIGIOUS MAN HAD TO SAY AS WE OPEN UP WITH PRAYER, HE SAID IN THE BEGINNING OF THE CONTEST WITH GREAT BRITAIN, WHEN WE WERE SENSIBLE OF DANGER, WE HAD DAILY ROOM, DAILY PRAYER IN THIS ROOM FOR DIVINE PROTECTION.

OUR PRAYERS, SIR, WERE HEARD AND THEY WERE GRACIOUSLY ANSWERED.

ALL OF US WHO WERE ENGAGED IN THE STRUGGLE MUST HAVE OBSERVED FREQUENT INSTANCES OF A SUPERINTENDING PROVIDENCE IN OUR FAVOR TO THAT KIND OF PROVIDENCE, WE OWE THIS HAPPY OPPORTUNITY OF CONSULTING IN PEACE ON THE MEANS OF ESTABLISHING OUR FUTURE NATIONAL FELICITY.

AND HAVE WE NOW FORGOTTEN THIS POWERFUL FRIEND? OR DO WE IMAGINE THAT WE NO LONGER NEED HIS ASSISTANCE? WE NEED HIS ASSISTANCE.

AND FATHER, WE ARE HERE TODAY IN THIS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER, WHERE, INDEED WE ARE HERE CONSULTING IN PEACE ON THE MEANS OF ESTABLISHING OUR FUTURE CITY.

FELICITY. WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN YOU.

WE HONOR YOU TODAY.

WE ASK FOR YOUR DIVINE INTERVENTION.

WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPERINTENDING PROVIDENCE.

WE ASK FOR YOUR FAVOR.

WE ASK FOR WISDOM.

FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE IN AUTHORITY.

FOR ALL THOSE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

FOR ALL THOSE WHO LEAD THIS BEST CITY IN ALL THE WORLD.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I SAY IT'S THE GREATEST CITY BECAUSE IT IS A CITY THAT HONORS YOU.

IT IS A CITY THAT.

OPENLY. HE HAS NO FEAR OF DECLARING JESUS AS THE ONE WHO CAME TO SAVE THE WORLD.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING.

TODAY, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PEACE THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR VOICES TO THOSE WHO LEAD US.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE WISDOM THAT YOU GIVE THE LEADERS THAT THEY MAY LEAD WISELY IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN. AMEN.

IT'S JUST ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH.

ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA PRESIDENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

MISS SHERMAN HERE.

MS.. JACOBS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME THOUGHTS HERE.

HOW ENCOURAGING AND MOTIVATING IT WAS FOR ME TO HEAR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THIS FLAG, THE FLAG OF THE GREATEST NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, THE UNITED STATES.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS ADVOCATE FOR LOW INCOME AND CENTRAL SERVICE PERSONNEL FOR PROFIT PROVIDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING OR A NONPROFIT PROVIDER.

TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT-LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.

TWO VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ADULT MEMBER 30 YEARS AND OLDER POSITION.

ONE VACANCY ON THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 32195 230 414.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

MADAM SHERMAN?

[AGENDA REVISIONS]

YES. GENDER REVISIONS, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE AN AGENDA REVISION REGARDING ITEM NUMBER ONE.

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UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE MAY 19TH, 2022 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

HEY, COUNCIL, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SECOND AND SECOND COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ANYONE HERE? THAT WAS FOR THAT ONE ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

PLEASE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.

MS.. JACOBS.

REVISION. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]

THE VERY FIRST ONE IS A PROCLAMATION REGARDING THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.

SO. GOOD EVENING.

ANY GREAT THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT IT'S PRAYER THAT KEEPS THIS NATION GOING.

I LIKE TO CALL UP BOB LLEWELLYN AS HE AND BOB WOULD YOU COME UP.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO CALL UP PASTOR KEN DELGADO FOR HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH BREVARD MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION.

GENTLEMEN, PLEASE JOIN ME.

SO IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THAT WHEREAS THE FIRST NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER WAS PROCLAIMED IN 1775, IN THE SECOND CONTINENTAL CONGRESS, SO THAT ALL AMERICANS OF EVERY RELIGIOUS DENOMINATION AND BACKGROUND MAY PRAY FOR GOD'S CONTINUAL LOVE AND MERCY UPON OUR LAND.

FOR IT IS WRITTEN IN PSALMS 33, VERSE 12.

BLESSED IS THE NATION WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD, AND THAT EVERY YEAR THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IS PROCLAIMED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND. WHEREAS, THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IS AN ANNUAL OBSERVANCE HELD ON THE FIRST THURSDAY IN MAY.

IT IS BASED ON A FEDERAL STATUTE 36 UNITED STATES CODE 119, WHICH WAS FIRST SIGNED INTO LAW BY HARRY TRUMAN IN 1952. A LITTLE BEFORE MY TIME.

THAT STATUTE READS AS FOLLOWS THE PRESIDENT SHALL ISSUE EACH YEAR A PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING THE FIRST THURSDAY IN MAY AS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER, ON WHICH THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES MAY TURN TO GOD IN PRAYER AND MEDITATION, AT CHURCHES, IN GROUPS AND AS INDIVIDUALS.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, SIGNED BY THE UNITED STATES CONTINENTAL CONGRESS IN JANUARY 18, 1777, ESTABLISHED OUR NATION'S HUMBLE BEGINNINGS ON THE BELIEF THAT OUR CREATOR HAVE ENDOWED US WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS INCORPORATED IN JANUARY 16, 1960, STILL BEFORE MY TIME FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE, AS STATED IN THE PREAMBLE OF THE CITY CHARTER.

AND. WHEREAS, ALL OF US HAVE THE FREEDOM TO PRAY AND EXERCISE OUR FAITHS OPENLY, YES, OPENLY.

WE CAN SAY, JESUS CHRIST, ISN'T THAT GREAT? OPENLY. LET US GIVE THANKS TO THE FREEDOM TO PRACTICE OUR FAITH AS WE SEE IT, WHETHER INDIVIDUALLY OR IN FELLOWSHIP.

AND. WHEREAS, WE PRAY FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, WE PRAY FOR THEIR LOVED ONES, THEIR SPEEDY RECOVERY FOR OUR WOUNDED WARRIORS. LET US ALSO PRAY FOR POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS AND OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS WHO PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO PROTECT THEIR FELLOW AMERICANS.

LET US COME TOGETHER TO PRAY FOR PEACE AND GOODWILL AS WE WORK TO MEET THE GREAT CHALLENGES OF OUR TIME.

NOW, THEREFORE, I.

ROB MEDINA, MAYOR.

OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY.

THANK YOU. BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 5TH, 2022, AS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO GIVE THANKS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR OWN FAITH FOR THE MANY FREEDOMS AND BLESSINGS, AND IN ASKING FOR GOD'S CONTINUED GUIDANCE, MERCY AND PROTECTION AND WITNESS HEREOF.

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I HAVE HERE ON SET IN MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FIFTH DAY OF 2022.

THANK YOU. COME ON, STEP FORWARD, MR. LLEWELLYN. I WANT TO READ YOU SOMETHING. AMERICA IS NOT ONLY ONE OF THE GREATEST NATIONS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

IT HAS ALSO BECOME ITS LONGEST ONGOING CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

ITS ORIGINAL GOVERNMENT HAS NOW ENDURED FOR WELL OVER TWO CENTURIES.

HOWEVER, AMERICA'S LONGEVITY IS ONLY AS STABLE AND SECURE AS ITS FOUNDATION.

SO WHAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN GOVERNMENT? POLITICAL SCIENTISTS NOW KNOW THAT THE GREATEST SINGLE SOURCE OF POLITICAL INSPIRATION FOR OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WAS THE BIBLE.

WHICH WAS CITED IN 34% OF THE QUOTATIONS FROM THE FOUNDING ERA OF EIGHT 1760 THROUGH 1805.

THIS DISCOVERY, WHILE IT MIGHT SURPRISE MANY TODAY, WOULD HAVE COME AS NO SURPRISE TO THE FOUNDERS.

IT WAS JOHN ADAMS WHO EXPLAINED.

THE PRINCIPLE, THE GENERAL PRINCIPLES ON WHICH THE FATHERS ACHIEVED INDEPENDENCE WERE THE GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF CHRISTIANITY. THANK YOU.

I. I HAD BOB LLEWELLYN COME.

I ASKED HIM TO COME TODAY TOO, BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE SOUTH BREVARD MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION, OF WHICH I AM PART OF NOW.

AND I THOUGHT IT FITTING THAT HE WOULD RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION PERSONALLY AND WE HONOR HIM TODAY.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT PROBABLY HE WAS BEFORE MY TIME ALSO.

PROBABLY. FOR FOR 28 YEARS, I WORE A MASK OF OF NO JESUS CHRIST.

BUT I GOT I GOT INFECTED BY HIM AT THE AGE OF 28.

AND NOW I'M FULLY INDOCTRINATED OR INFECTED WITH NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER OPPORTUNITIES AND EVERY OTHER OPPORTUNITY I HAVE TO SHARE THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST.

I'M THANKFUL THAT OUR PRESIDENTS, OUR FOREFATHERS, UNDERSTOOD THE VALUE OF PRAYER, THE VALUE OF TRUSTING IN PROVIDENCE, IN THE GOD OF LOVE, AND THE GOD THAT SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

AND I'M THANKFUL TO BE HERE TODAY IN.

YOU GET IT? THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

A BROUGHT. THE WOMEN.

WHEN IT COOLED DOWN. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

I'M GOING TO CALL UP BREVARD NURSING ACADEMY AND ANYONE HERE FOR THE LATE GREAT MARIE.

NATIONAL NURSES WEEK, MAY 612, MAY SIX THROUGH 12, 2022.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WE'RE ASKED THE NEARLY 945,000 LICENSED PRACTICAL NURSES AND 1.5 MILLION CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANTS IN THE US COMPRISE OUR NATION'S LARGEST HEALTH CARE PROFESSION.

[00:15:03]

AND. WHEREAS, THE DEPTH AND BREADTH OF THE LICENSED NURSING PROFESSION MEETS THE DIVERSE AND EMERGING HEALTH CARE NEEDS OF AMERICAN AND LOCAL POPULATION IN A WIDE RANGE OF SETTINGS. AND.

WHEREAS, PROFESSIONAL NURSING HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED TO BE AN INDISPENSABLE AND NECESSARY COMPONENT IN THE SAFETY AND QUALITY CARE OF HOSPITALIZED, HOMEBOUND AND BEDBOUND PATIENTS. AND.

WHEREAS, THE AMERICAN NURSES ASSOCIATION HAS DECLARED MAY SIX THROUGH 12TH AS NATIONAL NURSES WEEK WITH THE THEME NURSES ROOTED IN STRENGTH AND CELEBRATION AND HONOR OF PRACTICAL NURSES AS LEADERS IN HEALTH CARE, AS THEY STRIVE TOWARDS UPLIFTING MEDICAL STANDARDS AND COURAGEOUSLY MARCHING FORWARD AS FRONTLINE WORKERS WILL EXCEED EXPECTATIONS IN OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DEMAND FOR LICENSED PRACTICAL NURSES AND CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANCE SERVICES WILL BE GREATER THAN EVER AS THE AMERICAN POPULATION AGES, HEALTH CARE NEEDS TO INCREASE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES AND HOME CARE SERVICES GROW.

AND. WHEREAS, MORE QUALIFIED, LICENSED PRACTICAL NURSES AND CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANTS WILL BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE TO MEET THE INCREASINGLY COMPLEX NEEDS HAVE PROVEN TO BE INSTRUMENTAL DURING THE CURRENT COVID 19 PANDEMIC WORLDWIDE AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS THE CAMPUS FOUNDER OF BREVARD NURSING ACADEMY IN PALM BAY, EMORY PRENDERGAST, SHOWCASE HER DEDICATION IN PROVIDING THE TRAINING OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS AND POSTHUMOUSLY DESERVES UNIVERSAL REGARD AND APPRECIATION FOR PROVIDING A MUCH NEEDED SERVICE TO THE PATIENTS AND FAMILIES IN OUR GROWING COMMUNITY AND COUNTY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, KENNY JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY SIX THROUGH 12, 2022 AS NATIONAL NURSES WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO GIVE SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO THE STAFF, INSTRUCTORS AND NURSING GRADUATES. BREVARD NURSING ACADEMY.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT.

AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO THANK ANY NURSES THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.

YOU SHOULD GIVE A HAND TO YOURSELF.

YOU REALLY HELP THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT.

MY MOTHER STARTED BURFORD NURSING ACADEMY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND TO HELP NURSES.

AND I'M SO GLAD AND PROUD TO BE HELPING NOW WHERE SHE WAS.

THANK YOU. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MY MOM BECAUSE SHE WAS MY MOM FIRST BEFORE SHE WAS THE OWNER OF ARTISAN ACADEMY.

I'M SURE MANY OF YOU GUYS DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO THIS WOMAN IS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU LOOK IN YOURSELF, THAT SHE'S THE FRIEND THAT ALWAYS HAD YOUR BACK. SHE WAS THE FRIEND WHO SACRIFICED HERSELF FOR YOU.

SHE WAS THE FRIEND WHO WOULD LISTEN TO YOU WHEN YOU WERE SAD.

SHE WOULD RATHER HEAR ABOUT YOUR DAY, THEN TELL YOU ABOUT HER DAY.

SHE'D COME HOME EVERY SINGLE DAY AND JUST ASK ME ABOUT HOW IS HIGH SCHOOL OR SOME TRIVIAL THING, KNOWING THAT SHE HAD JUST FOUGHT MILLIONS OF WARS TO GET HER DREAM OFF THE FLOOR BECAUSE SHE'D RATHER HEAR ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE THAN HERSELF.

SHE WAS ALSO THE FRIEND TO BORROW YOUR CLOTHES AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK.

MY MOM. SHE.

SHE REALLY CARED ABOUT PEOPLE.

SHE WAS A RECEPTIONIST AT HEALTH FIRST AND SHE SAW.

THE NEED FOR NURSING AND THE NEED FOR QUALITY TRAINING AND JUST DOVE INTO IT.

AND SHE'S THAT KIND OF PERSON.

SHE JUST SAW THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND DECIDED THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE TO STAND UP AND DO IT.

YOU KNOW, SHE THIS WASN'T HER DREAM FROM THE DAY SHE WAS BORN.

HER DREAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO HELP PEOPLE.

AND SHE REALLY FOUND HER PLACE IN NURSING.

AND I'M SUPER HAPPY TO SAY THAT SHE'S MY MOM BECAUSE SHE WAS A REALLY GREAT PERSON.

THANK YOU. SHE ALSO GAVE MANY YOUNG INDIVIDUALS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CAREERS IN NURSING.

[00:20:11]

I'D LIKE TO CALL UP DEBORAH SMITH.

HI, DEBORAH. COME ON UP.

SO THIS IS WOMEN'S LUNG HEALTH WEEK.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU WARM MY HEART.

WHEREAS LUNG CANCER IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF CANCER DEATHS FOR WOMEN AND MEN.

AND. WHEREAS, EVERY TWO AND A HALF MINUTES A PERSON IN THE UNITED STATES IS DIAGNOSED WITH LUNG CANCER.

AND. WHEREAS, LUNG CANCER SCREENING SAVES LIVES, AND ADVOCACY AND INCREASED AWARENESS WILL RESULT IN MORE HIGH RISK INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS GETTING SCREENED.

AND. WHEREAS, PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR RESEARCH FUNDING WILL RESULT IN BETTER TREATMENT METHODS FOR NEWLY.

NEW EARLY DETECTION METHODS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY SAVE LIVES.

AND. WHEREAS, LUNG FORCE IS A NATIONAL INITIATIVE LED BY THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION TO DEFEAT LUNG CANCER.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BY VIRTUE OF SAID AUTHORITY, OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 9TH THROUGH THE 15TH, 2022, AS WOMEN'S LUNG HEALTH WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR RESIDENTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT LUNG CANCER, MORE ABOUT ITS RISKS, RISK FACTORS AND SCREENING OPTIONS, AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FIFTH DAY OF MAY 2022.

THANK YOU. YES.

REALLY? OKAY.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS DEBORAH SMITH, AND I AM THE FACE OF LUNG CANCER, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AT THE AGE OF 55.

FOUR YEARS AGO, I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH STAGE FOUR LUNG CANCER, AND I'VE NEVER SMOKED A DAY IN MY LIFE.

HE HAS TO MOVE IT UP BECAUSE OF ME.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY NICE.

THANK YOU. THERE'S A STIGMA THAT GOES WITH LUNG CANCER, AND I FIGHT WITH THAT STIGMA EVERY DAY BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SMOKED A DAY IN MY LIFE.

EVERY 2 MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS, SOMEONE IN THE COUNTRY IS DIAGNOSED WITH LUNG CANCER.

IN THE TIME I'M SPEAKING TO YOU TONIGHT, SOMEONE HAS JUST BEEN DIAGNOSED.

IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

IF YOU HAVE LUNGS, YOU CAN GET LUNG CANCER.

LUNG CANCER IS THE NUMBER ONE KILLER, AS THE MAYOR JUST SAID, OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE COUNTRY.

20% ARE NON SMOKERS JUST LIKE MYSELF.

THAT'S A LOT.

I WAS NEW TO ALL OF THIS FOUR YEARS AGO.

MY CANCER IS TREATABLE, BUT NOT CURABLE.

I'M STILL TEACHING TODAY.

EVERYTHING'S GONE GREAT. AFTER FOUR YEARS, THANKS TO MEDICAL RESEARCH, MY HUSBAND AND I VOLUNTEER WITH THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROCLAMATION IS TO RAISE AWARENESS TO LUNG CANCER AND LET YOU KNOW IT IS VERY PREVALENT IN THE WORLD.

KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN. MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY.

WHEN SOMETHING DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. DON'T JUST IGNORE IT.

THANK YOU.

COME ON IN THE PICTURE. COME ON IN.

I'D LIKE TO CALL UP OUR WONDERFUL CITY MANAGER, MADAM SUZANNE SHERMAN.

COME ON DOWN.

I'M NOT AS TOLD AS THE.

BUT I GUESS. THANK YOU, SIR.

THAT'S A LOT BETTER. BUT SUZANNE'S STILL.

SO THIS OK CARRY ON.

BEAUTIFUL GROUP OF PEOPLE BACK HERE.

OKAY, WELL, YOU WANT TO CALL HIM BY NAME.

THE WHOLE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.

COME ON UP. ALL OF THEM.

OKAY. SO YOU COULDN'T CALL THEM ALL BY NAME?

[00:25:01]

OH. BROOKLYN, HUH? HEY, GOOD TO SEE YOU. HEY, TIM.

THANKS FOR COMING. AND THESE GUYS, THEY GET THE JOB DONE.

THANKS. DON'T BE SHY.

YOU ACT LIKE YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

THIS IS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, MAY 15 THROUGH THE 21ST.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I LOVE YOU GUYS.

I TRULY LOVE YOU.

WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES PROVIDED IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE AN INTEGRAL AND INTEGRAL PART OF OUR CITIZENS EVERYDAY LIVES.

AND. WHEREAS, THE SUPPORT OF AN UNDERSTANDING AND INFORMED CITIZENRY IS VITAL TO THE EFFICIENT OPERATION OF PUBLIC WORKS SYSTEMS PROGRAMS SUCH AS STREETS AND HIGHWAYS, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND DRAINAGE FLEET MAINTENANCE AND ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING SERVICES.

WHEREAS THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND COMFORT OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY GREATLY DEPENDS ON THESE FACILITIES AND SERVICES.

WHEREAS THE QUALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THEIR SURVEYING, ENGINEERING, PLANNING, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE ARE VITALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE EFFORTS, SKILL AND COMMITMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS PERSONNEL, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RIGHT BESIDE ME. AND.

WHEREAS, THIS YEAR'S THEME, READY AND RESILIENT.

I KIND OF LIKE THAT.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A NAVAL, BUT I WON'T GO THERE.

THIS YEAR'S THEME, READY AND RESILIENT, SPEAKS TO THE ESSENTIAL NATURE OF PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF EVERYDAY QUALITY OF LIFE.

THERE WOULD BE NO COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE PUBLIC WORKS PROVIDES.

THERE WOULD BE NO COMMUNITY TO POLICE AND PROTECT.

NO PUBLIC TO LEAD OR REPRESENT.

PUBLIC WORKS ALLOWS THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT TO BE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY THE VIRTUE AND AUTHORITY SET OFF, IS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 15 THROUGH THE 21ST AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I CALL UPON ALL OUR CITIZENS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH THE ISSUES INVOLVED IN PROVIDING OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTION WHICH PUBLIC WORKS PERSONNEL MAKE EVERYDAY TO OUR HEALTH, TO OUR SAFETY, FOR OUR COMFORT, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO ASSURE THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS DOWN TO EARTH.

YES, IT'S DOWN TO EARTH AND UP TO GREAT THINGS.

NOW IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HERE ON TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THE FIFTH DAY OF MAY 2022. MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO COME AND SHARE? AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PULL ON ONE OF THESE VICTORIOUS LEADERS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I'M UP HERE BECAUSE FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE, I'M CURRENTLY THE ACTING PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

SO THESE GUYS GET A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF ME THAN MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE TO.

BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO JUST EMPHASIZE WHAT THE MAYOR JUST READ AND WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T MAYBE REALIZE IS WE HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS TEAM OF ABOUT 120 MEMBERS, AND THEY ARE ONE OF THE MANY GROUPS THAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE UNSUNG HEROES OF THE CITY, BECAUSE THESE FOLKS BEHIND ME AND MANY, MANY MORE WHO ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT DO SO MUCH DAY IN AND DAY OUT FOR THIS CITY THAT KEEPS US REALLY IN A IN A GREAT WORKING CONDITION.

I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT WE NEVER SEE THAT THESE FOLKS TAKE CARE OF EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I COULD MAKE A REALLY LONG LIST, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU REAL HIGH LEVEL SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DO.

SO THE FOLKS BEHIND ME THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE DEALING EVERY DAY WITH TRYING TO KEEP THE RIGHT OF WAYS CLEAN.

SO A LOT OF MOWING, A LOT OF CLEARING STUFF GETS IN THE ROAD AND BLOCKS IT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GO OUT AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

A TREE FALLS DOWN, THEY TAKE CARE OF IT.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

THEY TAKE CARE OF MAINTENANCE ON ALL OF OUR CANALS.

THEY HELP WITH THE STORMWATER MAINTENANCE.

SO ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF THAT WATER FLOWS SOMEWHERE THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT SOMEWHERE.

I'VE GOT A HUGE TEAM OF FOLKS THAT IS HANDLING ALL OF OUR FLEET.

SO THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR VEHICLES TO KEEP ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITH VEHICLES RUNNING THE FLEET TEAM IS KEY AND CRITICAL IN DEALING WITH THAT.

THERE ARE BEHIND THE SCENES FOLKS WHO ARE ENGINEERING AND THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE DEALING WITH DRIVEWAY AND DRAINAGE PERMITS.

THERE ARE FOLKS THAT HANDLE THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION AND CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WE ALL USE EVERY DAY, IT'S THESE FOLKS THAT ARE PART OF MAKING SURE THOSE WORK PROPERLY.

THE STREETS THAT WE RIDE ON, THE SIDEWALKS WE WALK ON, THE STREETLIGHTS THAT ARE FUNCTIONING IN OUR CITY, THE LIST IS VERY LONG, BUT THESE GUYS AND GALS ARE PART OF THIS TEAM. I CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR WHAT THEY DO EVERY DAY.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW FROM ME PERSONALLY AS A CITY MANAGER HOW GREAT THIS TEAM IS AND HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM.

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SO THANK YOU. WELL, FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY ANYTHING WITH THAT.

THAT'S VERY. RIGHT.

I MEAN, HERE. WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET READY.

AND I.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO THIS WAY.

HOTEL. YOU KNOW. WE ARE NOW ON A MISSION.

WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS.

[PRESENTATIONS]

AND MADAM SHERMAN.

MIKE. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT BY OUR CODE CODE SUPERVISOR.

CODE COMPLIANCE SUPERVISOR.

VALERIE. VALERIE CUISINES.

SO CODE COMPLIANCE IS ACTUALLY PART OF OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

SO ALEXANDRA BERNARD IS ALSO HERE.

SHE'S THE DIRECTOR.

BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TONIGHT IS A CULMINATION OF DIFFERENT COMMENTS AND REQUESTS.

WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM COUNCIL WHERE WE'VE BEEN REQUESTING.

YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE BEEN REQUESTING SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE DO IN CODE COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS WHAT VALERIE WILL GO THROUGH.

BUT ALSO, WE WANT TO OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION TO COUNCIL, TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND VALERIE WOULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW OUR OUR CURRENT STRATEGY OF ADDRESSING CODE ISSUES IN THE CITY HAS BEEN MORE REACTIVE.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE PATH WE'VE BEEN ON FOR MANY YEARS BASED ON PRIOR DIRECTION.

BUT WE WE HAVE A SENSE FROM TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR US TO MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE.

SO THE HOPE TONIGHT.

IN LISTENING TO COUNSEL AFTER VALERIE PRESENTS AND LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS FROM ANYONE WHO COMES UP TO SPEAK IS THAT WE WOULD GET A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION AS TO WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US DO GOING FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO VALERIE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO WE HAVE PREPARED A LITTLE PRESENTATION TO SHOW THE CODE COMPLIANCE FUNCTIONS AND COMPLAINT PROCESSES.

AND YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME. I'VE BEEN BATTLING A COLD ALL WEEK, SO I'M A LITTLE NASALLY.

SO AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS. AS SUZANNE STATED, THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE DIRECTION HAS BEEN WE ARE REACTIVE, NOT PROACTIVE.

WE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO TAKE ON THE PROACTIVE ROLE.

AS LONG AS THAT'S THE DECISION THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO PROCEED WITH.

SO THE FIRST SLIDE YOU SEE SHOWS THE MAP OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BROKEN OUT INTO SIX ZONES.

EACH OFFICER IN THE DEPARTMENT IN DIVISION HAS A ZONE ASSIGNED TO THEM AS WELL AS MYSELF.

I AM ALSO THE SUPERVISOR, BUT A ACTING CODE OFFICER AS WELL.

SO WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN ZONES.

THE SECOND SLIDE IS HOW THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION IS BROKEN OUT WITH THE OFFICERS AND THEIR ZONES.

AND THEN WE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT IS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT HELPS US WITH ALL THE DATA AND THE PAPERWORK FOR OUR CASES.

THIS SLIDE BASICALLY SHOWS YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THE TOP 16.

MOST COMPLAINTS THAT WE ADDRESS HAS THE SECTION NUMBER FOR THE ORDINANCE, HOW MANY WE'VE TAKEN IN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 AND THEN 2022 TO DATE.

I'LL GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BEFORE I SWITCH THE NEXT SLIDE.

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NOW THIS NEXT SLIDE, EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THE SENATE BILL 60 THAT PASSED JULY 1ST OF LAST YEAR, WHICH STATES THAT YOU CANNOT FILE A COMPLAINT FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO RESPOND TO UNLESS YOU PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

SO THE.

WE DID A LITTLE COMPARISON FROM THE YEAR PRIOR TO THE SENATE BILL PASSING, WHICH IS IN BLUE AND THEN THE.

FROM JULY 1ST TO PREVIOUS AND CURRENT.

I'M SORRY. IS IN ORANGE.

THE FIGURES HAVE DROPPED.

NOT IN HALF, BUT THEY HAVE DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE CITIZENS THAT DO NOT LIKE TO LEAVE THEIR INFORMATION, ONLY IN FEAR OF RETALIATION THAT WHEN THEY CALL TO FIND OUT, WELL, WHO TURN ME IN AND WE TELL THEM WHO THE PERSON IS, THEY'RE IN FEAR OF RETALIATION.

SO THE COMPLAINTS HAVE DROPPED.

SO THAT'S WHERE IT SHOWS YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE.

AND THAT WAS NOT PURPOSELY DONE IN GATOR COLORS, BY THE WAY.

IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE THAT WAY.

SO. I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM.

YOU SEE WHERE THE ACTUAL CASE TYPE IS.

I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY HARD FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF SMALL, BUT IT'S THE CASE TYPE.

AND THEN THE BAR GRAPH BASICALLY SHOWS HOW MANY OF THOSE CASES WERE TAKEN IN THE YEAR BEFORE AND THEN SEVEN 121 TO PRESENT.

SO WE ALSO HAVE NUISANCE PROPERTIES NOW.

AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.

COUNCIL HAD GRANTED US PERMISSION TO START ADDRESSING THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NUISANCE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE EXTENDED ALL AVENUES AS FAR AS FINDING THEM, LEANING THEM THERE, ACCRUING FINES PER DAY.

WE HAD ONE PARTICULAR CASE THAT WENT THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS.

WE WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS WE HAD A CONTRACTOR LINED UP.

WE WERE GOING TO HAVE IT CLEANED UP.

THE OWNER DECIDED, I GUESS I BETTER DO SOMETHING.

SO HE CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY SO WE DIDN'T NEED TO TAKE THE ACTION.

WE NOW HAVE MET WITH PROCUREMENT, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, LAND DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE, AND WE HAVE COME UP WITH A SMOOTHER PROCESS.

WE ARE ESTABLISHING A LIST OF CONTRACTORS THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY FROM THE JUDGE TO GO AND CLEAN THE PROPERTY, WE WILL REACH OUT TO ONE OF THESE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE ON OUR LIST AND THEY WILL GO OUT AND CLEAN THE PROPERTY.

SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT LIST PUT TOGETHER.

ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE PROBABLY 8 TO 10 CASES ALREADY THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GO AHEAD AND PURSUE THROUGH THE COURTS TO GET THE PERMISSION TO GET THEM CLEANED UP.

SO WE WILL HAVE MORE CASES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF THROUGH THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT PROCESS.

AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE INFORMATION.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO CONTACT CODE COMPLIANCE, WE HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS.

WE HAVE YOU CAN CALL IN, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND, WE ARE REQUIRED TO ASK FOR A NAME AND ADDRESS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO ATTACH IT TO A CASE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE REACTIVE PROACTIVE.

SO. ANY ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL I WANT TO GIVE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

WELL, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

WHEN YOU HAVE A NUISANCE PROPERTY AND WHO PAYS TO CLEAN UP FOR THAT PROPERTY WHEN WHEN YOU CONTRACT THAT OUT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET.

SO IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE BUDGET.

SO THAT THAT THE CLEANING UP OF THAT PROPERTY DOESN'T PASS ON TO THE RESIDENT THAT WELL, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE ARE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, WE'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT WHERE WE FIND AND WE'VE LEANED THEM AND THE PEOPLE, THEY JUST DON'T CARE BECAUSE IN THEIR EYES THEY'RE GOING TO STAY THERE TILL WHENEVER THEY'RE NOT SELLING. SO THEY DON'T CARE THAT THERE'S A LEAN ON THE PROPERTY.

SO ONCE WE TAKE THEM THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS AND WE HAVE IT CLEANED UP, IT'S GOING TO ATTACH ANOTHER LEAN TO THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON? YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CALLED, YOU SAY OR.

OH, CARRY ON. GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. SORRY.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT PROBABLY ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I GET EMAILS ABOUT ARE CODE COMPLIANCE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, OR REPUBLIC, IT'S ONE OF THE TWO. SO I DO THINK FINDING A PROACTIVE WAY WHILE WITHOUT INFRINGING.

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BUT JUST WE ALL NEED TO TAKE PRIDE IN OUR CITY.

CORRECT? YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE WHERE IT AFFECTS NEIGHBORS WHO ARE TRYING TO SELL THEIR HOUSES OR WHO ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, HEALTH AND SAFETY FOR KIDS AS WELL.

SO I DO THINK A MORE PROACTIVE WAY WOULD BE EFFICIENT.

ONE THING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SENATE BILL 60, I GOT THE INFORMATION TO YOU LATE, SO I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T ABLE TO REVIEW IT, BUT I GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY REGARDING HOW THEY HOW THEY HANDLE THINGS FOR SENATE BILL 60.

AND THEY WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, HEALTH AND SAFETY COMPLAINTS CAN BE ANONYMOUS, BUT COMPLAINTS THAT ARE RECEIVED FOR THEM, THEY REQUIRE NAME, ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER OR EMAIL ADDRESS SO THEY CAN CONFIRM THE PERSON.

BECAUSE I CAN BE IN GEORGIA CALLING AND SAY, I LIVE AT THIS ADDRESS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT CALLING THE PHONE NUMBER OR GETTING THE EMAIL, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONFIRM.

SO THAT'S ONE THING THE COUNTY DID.

THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE.

OR BEFORE I SAY I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR TAKE ON THAT, I GUESS SO I WOULD LIKE TO REFER THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS FAR AS THE LEGALITY ISSUE, BECAUSE THE SENATE BILL SAYS THEY ONLY HAVE TO PROVIDE A NAME AND ADDRESS.

AND IT'S IT'S PRETTY GRAY AREA BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE THAT JUST GIVE US A FALSE NAME AND A FALSE ADDRESS JUST TO FILE THE COMPLAINT. SO I WAS DEFER IT TO LEGAL FIRST TO FIND OUT, OKAY, ARE WE ABLE TO GO THAT ROUTE? AND THEN IF SO, THEN WE WOULD MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS TO TRY TO VERIFY THAT.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO ADD MORE TO THE ADMIN STAFF TO HAVE TO VERIFY THIS PERSON WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SO-AND-SO AND THIS IS HIS ADDRESS OR HER ADDRESS. GOTCHA. OKAY.

AND WHAT I'LL DO BECAUSE I GOT THE INFORMATION LATE, LIKE I SAID, FROM THE COUNTY.

SO I'LL SEND IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WE REVIEW IT.

BUT I LOOK AT IT ON BOTH SIDES.

IT MIGHT SEEM IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE WORK, BUT IF IT IS A FAKE COMPLAINT, THEN YOU CAN CLOSE THE CASE AND BE DONE WITH IT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, CHASING AROUND.

SO SO THAT'S ONE PART OF IT.

SO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, MISS VALERIE.

YES, SIR. THE OTHER PART I EMAILED YOU ABOUT, COULD YOU SPEAK ON A LITTLE BIT VACANT REGISTRY PROCESS OR.

YES. SO WE HAVE THE VACANT HOMES.

SO WHEN WE HAVE A FORECLOSED HOME THAT'S VACANT, WE NORMALLY GET A REGISTRATION THAT THEY PAY $100.

IT GOES THROUGH THE I BELIEVE IT'S ACCOUNTING NOW IT GOES THROUGH AND THEN THEY SEND IT TO US AND THEN WE JUST LOG IT INTO OUR SYSTEM THAT THIS HOUSE IS VACANT.

SO LIKE I SAID, THEY PAY $100 AND IT IT'S GOOD FOR A YEAR UNLESS IT'S SOLD.

AND THEN WE CLOSE IT OUT BECAUSE SOMEBODY OWNS THE HOUSE NOW WE TYPICALLY HAVE.

50 TO 75 RIGHT NOW.

IF THERE ARE MORE VACANT HOUSES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO KNOW BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL IF A HOUSE IS VACANT.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ABOUT 50 TO 75.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR, BECAUSE I'M RIGHT ALONG WITH YOU.

I WANT TO REMIND THIS BOARD THAT THERE WAS A CASE THAT VALERIE ELOQUENTLY PUT.

IT WAS GOING ON FOR TEN YEARS, A DECADE.

AND THIS COUNCIL DECIDED TO SAY, NO, THIS THIS IS ENOUGH.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. AND IN THAT DISCUSSION, WE WE HEARD FROM EVEN MASTER CHIEF ON ON DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT THAT HINDER THE BEAUTIFICATION OF OUR CITY.

SO WE'VE PUT IN PLACE A MAGISTRATE NOW THERE IS NO CIVILIAN BOARD.

AND SO WE'VE TAKEN A PROACTIVE APPROACH ON THIS.

AND I'M FOR KEEPING THE BEAUTY OF THIS CITY AND MAKING IT SHINE AND GIVING THEM THE TOOLS, GIVING OUR STAFF THE TOOLS TO TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO FOR FOUR YEARS, THIS WAS ONGOING.

I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.

FOR YEARS THIS WAS ONGOING.

AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THE CITY ATTORNEY INVOLVED AND WE SAID NO MORE, THAT'S WHEN THERE WAS A COMPLIANCE.

SO OUR STAFF WENT OUT THERE, OUR CODE COMPLIANCE WENT OUT THERE AND WAS REALLY ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION.

DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS CAME TOGETHER WITH DIFFERENT FRESH IDEAS.

AND I WANT TO JUST SHARE THAT WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL DECIDES, WE REALLY NEED TO SUPPORT THE STAFF GIVE THEM.

AND WE'VE HEARD IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM OUR CITIZENS, RIGHT? WE'VE HEARD THAT WE JUST GOT TO GIVE THEM ENOUGH TEETH.

THEY NEED TO HAVE THAT THAT TYPE OF ABILITY TO GET GET A RESULT TO GET FOLKS TO COMPLY.

RIGHT. SO I'M ALL ABOUT ASSISTING IN THAT AVENUE.

I'M ALL ABOUT GETTING OUR CITY TO BE BEAUTIFIED.

AND BECAUSE SOME FOLKS, THEY FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHETHER IT BE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR WHAT, WE WE'VE MADE SOME EFFORTS TO TO FIX THAT.

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RIGHT. SO I'M IN AGREEMENT.

BUT BUT I WANT I WANT TO SAY.

THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE, WE HAVE TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF.

AND THAT BY THAT I MEAN WHEN THEY GO OUT AND THEY COMPLY OR THEY HAVE FOLKS COMPLY, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THOSE DECISIONS.

WE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE A MAGISTRATE.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SPEAKER.

YES. MAYOR, ONE MORE QUESTION.

YES, SIR. I DO KNOW SOME.

THE STAFF EVER FEEL UNSAFE WHILE OUT? THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE KNOW THAT IS UNSAFE.

AND AT THAT TIME WE WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY ALWAYS ASSIST WITH US GOING OUT TO A PROPERTY.

WE ALSO HAVE BEEN GIVEN ACCESS TO A PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS US TO INPUT AN ADDRESS AND IF THERE'S ANY RED FLAGS WHATSOEVER, WE CONTACT POLICE AND THEY SEND SOMEBODY WITH US.

IF WE'RE UNAWARE, WE GET OUT THERE AND WE FEEL SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT.

WE ALWAYS CONTACT PD.

WE NEVER GO ANYWHERE AND WE TRY NOT TO GO KNOCKING ON DOORS UNLESS WE FEEL IT'S BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THAT DOOR ANYBODY'S DAY.

YOU DON'T KNOW. AND WE DON'T WANT TO PUT OURSELVES IN THAT POSITION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ALONG THAT VEIN.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN IS THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE NUISANCE PROPERTIES, BUT THEY'RE THEY DEAL NARCOTICS AND SUCH.

SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO UNRAVEL AND PEEL BACK THE ONION.

OF COURSE, WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU JUST TOOK THE QUESTION OUT OF MY MOUTH WHEN IT COMES TO NARCOTICS.

I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS IN NARCOTICS OFFICER IN MY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE USE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO FIND OUT.

YOU KNOW, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES GOING ON IN THAT.

AT THAT PROPERTY. THERE MIGHT BE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE, BUT.

SO I WANT YOU TO REALLY WORK WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ABSOLUTELY. AND BE SAFE WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT BOTHERS ME.

WE PUT LIENS ON THESE PROPERTIES.

YOU SAID WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SECOND LIEN, BUT THE PERSON DOESN'T COMPLY.

I MEAN. IT'S LIKE BEATING YOUR HEAD UP AGAINST THE WALL.

IF A IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE AND THEY HAVE TWO LIENS, TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN.

CAN THE INDIVIDUAL COME IN AND REMOVE THAT LIEN? A STRANGER FROM ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY OR OUTSIDE THE STATE COULD COME AND SAY, I'M GOING TO PAY THEIR LIEN.

I WOULD BELIEVE ANYBODY CAN PAY ANYBODY'S LIEN.

WE ALSO HAVE THE PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN GO BEFORE ANOTHER MAGISTRATE TO ASK FOR A REDUCTION OF A LIEN SO SOMEBODY COULD COME UP AND PAY THE LIEN.

DO THEY HAVE POSSESSION OF THAT PROPERTY? I WOULD NOT THINK SO.

THAT WOULD BE A LEGAL QUESTION, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, JUST PAYING OFF A LIEN.

OKAY. SO THE PUPPY'S NOT.

OFFERED TO THAT THAT CORRECT PAYER.

YOU JUST DID THE PERSONAL FAVOR, RIGHT? SO AFTER WE GOT TO THREE OR FOUR LIENS ON ONE PROPERTY.

DO THE CITY TAKE POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY? THE CITY HAS IN THE PAST PENDING ON THE MARKET VALUE OF THE HOME AND WE HAVE FORECLOSED ON PROPERTIES.

I KNOW WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT RECENTLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT MANAGEMENT WANTS TO GO AGAIN, BUT WE HAVE NOT FORECLOSED ON PROPERTIES IN SEVERAL YEARS.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION I WOULD LIKE TO GO.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP PUTTING LIENS ON PROPERTY.

WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME. WE'RE SPENDING THE WILL.

RIGHT. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE SAYING, THAT WE HAVE NO TEETH WHEN IT COMES TO WE DO AS FAR AS WE CAN, AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT.

AND THEN THE HOUSE STAYS THE SAME.

THEY'RE JUST RACKING UP FINES.

THERE'S A LEAN ON THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING FURTHER.

AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE LIVING IN HELL.

CORRECT. BUT THIS WHOLE NUISANCE AVENUE WE'RE TAKEN IS GOING TO HELP BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TAKE THESE CASES TO COURT. THE JUDGE IS GOING TO GRANT US PERMISSION TO GO ON THE PROPERTIES AND HAVE THEM CLEANED UP.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY AND THE CITIZENS THAT ARE KEEPING THEIR PROPERTY NEAT, CLEAN AND, YOU KNOW, IN VIOLATION, YOU KNOW, OUT OF VIOLATION.

AND THE PALM BAY RESIDENCE IS PAYING FOR THIS.

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YES. WE'RE JUST AS FRUSTRATED AS THE CITIZENS ARE, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO LEGAL AND CITY MANAGERS OFFICE TO FIND OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO START FORECLOSING AGAIN.

BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE GUIDELINES WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ORDER TO FORECLOSE.

WE ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER COUNCIL AND MAYOR WANTS US TO DO.

WE'RE ALL FOR IT.

I WILL SUPPORT YOU.

BEING PROACTIVE.

A COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR VALERIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO, YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

AND I'VE SEEN YOU GUYS ON THE STREETS ALL THE TIME.

SOMETIMES I EVEN PICK UP THE PHONE CALL, CALL THE OFFICE.

BUT GREAT. WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

FOLLOW UP TO WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.

I, I DO AGREE.

I THINK IN SOME CASES, EXCESSIVE SITUATION.

WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THIS AVENUE.

THE ONLY THING IS, I KNOW UNCLE SAM'S ALWAYS GOT FIRST POSITION, SO WE GO AND PROCEED IN THAT ROUTE.

WE HAVE TO STRONGLY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO COME GET POSSESSION AND SOMETHING THAT ALREADY MAY NOT BE WORTH ALL THE TIME.

CORRECT. OR TO PERCEIVE.

SO BECAUSE UNCLE SAM'S ALWAYS FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEY WILL GET PAID BEFORE WE DO SO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOR PARTICULAR VA LOANS OR VA LOANS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PARTICULAR PROPERTY AT 837 SATURN CIRCLE.

THAT IS A NIGHTMARE.

THE HOUSE IS PRETTY MUCH FALLING IN, BUT LEGALLY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S TIED UP IN WRESTLING'S.

SO BUT YEAH, THAT'S ONE ASPECT I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOT TO CONSIDER THAT SECOND THING YOU DID MENTION AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT BEING MORE REACTIVE THAN PROACTIVE.

AND I ENCOUNTER SITUATION WHERE I KNOW FOR A FACT BECAUSE OF SITUATION WHERE I WAS TOLD, OH YEAH, UNLESS PEOPLE CALLED, YOU GUYS DON'T REACT.

THAT'S CORRECT. IT CAN BE VERY FAIR.

BUT IF YOU DON'T GET THAT PHONE CALL, YOU DON'T REACT, WHICH I THINK.

YEAH, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

RIGHT. AND I WILL SAY THIS, WHEN AN OFFICER IS OUT IN THE AREA DOING AN INSPECTION, IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT IS SAFETY, HEALTH OR WELFARE, THEY WILL WRITE IT UP AND IT GOES ON A ROUTINE PATROL.

AND I KNOW THAT JOAN HAS ASKED FOR OUR ROUTINE PATROL NUMBERS AND THEY ARE LOW ONLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROACTIVE.

SO WHAT NUMBERS WE HAVE NOW ARE ONLY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE WHEN WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE DOING OTHER INSPECTIONS AND WE SEE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO TO THAT TO THAT END, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, I'VE WATCHED A STREET WHERE ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS TAGGED.

AND REHOUSED ON THE ROAD.

THREE SITES, I SHOULD SAY, WAS A NEW CONSTRUCTION SITE.

AND THEY WERE THEY WERE JUST FINE.

I MEAN, SAME SITUATION.

ONE WAS TAGGED.

STOP ALL CONSTRUCTION BUT SAME SITUATION.

NO DUMPSTER.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

WE DON'T DO STOP WORK ORDERS.

WELL THAT JUST ONE PARTICULAR SITUATION THEY IT WAS ATTRIBUTED TO TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT. BUT THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT WAYS YOU CAN BE PROACTIVE.

WOULD YOU GIVE US A FEW EXAMPLES? SO TO US, BEING PROACTIVE, IF WE'RE GOING TO AN INSPECTION AND WE GO DOWN A ROAD AND WE SEE ALL THESE VIOLATIONS, INSTEAD OF GOING LIKE THIS, WE'RE GOING TO GO LIKE THIS AND START WRITING PEOPLE UP.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN WE GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND THEN WE WRITE SOMEBODY UP AND THEN THE WHY DIDN'T YOU WRITE THIS PERSON UP? WELL, WE DIDN'T GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT PERSON.

SO WE ARE ALL FOR BEING PROACTIVE AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE SUPPORT AND BACKING WHEN BECAUSE AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT EXACTLY ONE OF THE TOP DIVISIONS.

BEING LIKED IN THE CITY.

SO WITH US BEING PROACTIVE, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE THE CITIZENS TO BE MORE, WELL, WHY ARE THEY BULLYING US? WHY ARE THEY COMING UP AND DOWN OUR STREETS WRITING EVERYBODY UP? WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING PROACTIVE.

MAYOR, IF I MAY WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING.

I'M ALL FOR IT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

JUST AS YOU SAID, WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.

DON'T DON'T PUT OUR BLINDERS UP AND CORRECT.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE EQUAL EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT IN SUCH A WAY WHERE WE'RE STILL PROVIDING A SERVICE.

RIGHT? CORRECT. CUSTOMER SERVICE BEING VERY STRATEGIC.

WE'RE NOT OUT THERE TO POLICE YOU PER SE, BUT WE TRYING TO HELP.

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YEAH, WE WILL EDUCATE.

THAT'S CORRECT. WE ARE CURRENTLY UPDATING OUR PAMPHLET OF THE TOP TEN CODE VIOLATIONS.

SO WHEN WE GO OUT THERE AND WE SEE SOMEBODY THAT THEIR GRASS IS GETTING A LITTLE TALL, IT'S BORDERLINE 12 INCHES.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO WRITE THEM UP.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EDUCATE THEM AND SAY, HERE'S A PAMPHLET.

YOUR GRASS IS KIND OF GETTING TALL.

YOU MAY WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT.

THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS KEY TO ABSOLUTELY PEOPLE.

WE'RE ALL ABOUT EDUCATING.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YES, THANK YOU. AND MA'AM, I JUST WANT TO TAG A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

MY QUESTION IS MORE OF WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT YOU? WHAT WHAT ELSE CAN WE EQUIP YOU WITH? BECAUSE THIS SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS HERE.

WE WANT TO, NUMBER ONE, BEAUTIFY THE CITY.

RIGHT. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MENTIONED THE GRASS.

RIGHT. SO IN MY VISION, THE NUISANCE PROPERTIES AREN'T WHERE THEY FAIL TO CUT THEIR GRASS, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE WEEKS IN THE SUMMERTIME.

NO, MY MY IDEA OF A NUISANCE IS WHEN THEY PUT WASHERS AND DRYERS ON THEIR PROPERTY OR.

OR OTHER BIG ITEMS. I KNOW, I KNOW.

I KNOW. MR. BATTEN IS WELL FAMILIAR WITH HIS PROPERTY ON OCEAN SPRAY.

THAT IS ONE OF THE ONES ON OUR TOP TEN LIST TO TURN INTO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE TRIED TO WORK WITH THIS GENTLEMAN.

WE HAVE VERBALLY TALKED TO HIM.

WE HAVE GIVEN HIM TIME.

HE JUST IT'S JUST NOT SINKING IN.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS.

AND ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS BECAUSE I GUESS I DEAL WITH MANY DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

RIGHT. AND WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED IS WHEN IT GETS TO BE THAT IT CAN BE BUREAUCRATIC IN NATURE, DIFFERENT AGENCIES NOT SPEAKING TO ONE ANOTHER.

AND I'M SURE THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER HAS HAD EXPERIENCE LIKE THAT BEING A FEDERAL AGENT.

SO IT WOULD BE TO KIND OF COLLABORATE, MAKE SURE THERE'S THERE'S DIALOG WITH WITHIN THE AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND NOT NOT SEPARATE FROM ONE ANOTHER DURING THIS PROCESS.

CORRECT. AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING WHEN WE SAY THE SUPPORT AND BACKING OF THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL IS WHEN YOU DO GET THOSE COMPLAINTS THAT, OH, CODE ENFORCEMENTS OUT HERE AND THEY'RE JUST BULLYING US OR THEY'RE PICKING ON ME OR HARASSING ME, IT'S THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE YOU SAID, OUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY.

WE WANT VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.

WE ARE NOT OUT THERE TO MAKE PEOPLE'S LIVES MISERABLE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE EVERYBODY UNIFORMED.

LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT KEEPS THEIR PROPERTY IN A SHAPE AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE THE FIXER, SO WE JUST NEED TO SUPPORT THAT.

WHEN YOU DO GET THOSE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE CITIZENS HAPPY AND TRY TO GET EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY BACK TO WHERE A STATE IT SHOULD BE.

I'LL BE THAT MAN, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AGREE WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO SAY UP HERE.

A PROACTIVE APPROACH IS THE WAY TO GO.

COUNCILMAN FELIX MENTIONED IT WITH EDUCATE.

SO WE EDUCATE THE PROPERTY OWNER.

WE GIVE THAT PROPERTY OWNER A CHANCE TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION.

AND IF THEY DON'T RECTIFY A SITUATION OR RESOLVE THE SITUATION, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE ATTACH A FINE OR OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

I DID WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S COMMENTS ABOUT FORECLOSURES AND THE CITY TAKING PROPERTY.

I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION OFF BIANCA AND EVERYTHING, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 40, 50 YEARS AND THEY'RE OLDER NOW AND THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY. SO I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO KICK AN OLD PERSON OUT OF THEIR HOUSE FOR A CODE VIOLATION.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT OTHER NEIGHBORS ARE THERE.

THEY'RE COMPLAINING, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.

YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PHILLIP, FOR SAYING THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO KICK AN OLD PERSON OUT OF THEIR HOUSE EITHER.

THAT'S WHERE EDUCATION AND USING DISCRETION.

YES. WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER NEEDS TO USE.

SOMEONE IS ELDERLY AND CANNOT CUT THE GRASS OR OR CANNOT PROVIDE THAT.

THAT'S WHERE. I WANT TO HEAR A COMPLAINT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN, Y'ALL NOT BEING OUT THERE ENFORCING IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET COMPLAINTS EITHER WAY.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE THE WORD ENFORCEMENT.

I GOT TO GET BACKGROUND ON THAT.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN WITH THIS FORUM OR AGAINST THEM.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMPLAINT.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO. WE CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY.

THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN YOU HAVE AN ELDERLY PERSON LIKE COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

USE, YOU KNOW, DISCRETION, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION.

REACH OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS, FAMILY MEMBERS.

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JUST DON'T PUT A LEAN ON.

FIND THEM. NOW, THERE'S A PROCESS.

IT DOESN'T GO STRAIGHT TO A LIEN.

AND WE TYPICALLY WORK WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WE DON'T JUST GIVE THEM, OH, YOU HAVE 20 DAYS AND THAT'S IT.

WE UNDERSTAND CIRCUMSTANCES.

THEY CALL US, HEY, CAN WE GET MORE TIME? ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE NEVER DENIED ANYBODY AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO FIX A VIOLATION.

AND I KNOW ENFORCEMENT.

YOU HEAR CODE ENFORCEMENT.

YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE TO CHANGE IT TO CODE ENHANCEMENT.

I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS NICER TO ME.

WELL, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO ENFORCE THE CODE, RIGHT? YOU STILL GOT TO ENFORCE THE CODE.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

SO? SO, MADAM VALERIE, I HAVE TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR TEAM, JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN FELIX THAT I DO WANT TO SHARE.

WHAT? WHAT IS IT? AND I THINK YOU WANTED TO TAP INTO SOMETHING, MA'AM.

SO LET ME LET YOU I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS TO SORT OF WRAP THINGS UP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON COUNSEL'S DIRECTION.

YEAH, THAT IS.

YES. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BUT FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT TO SAY TO THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT DISCRETION.

AND VALERIE SAID IT VERY WELL.

THE TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT IS ASSEMBLED IN CODE CARES A LOT ABOUT THE CITY, CARES A LOT ABOUT HOW THE CITY WORKS.

AND WE HAVE JUST OVER THE PAST YEARS, I THINK, HELD THEM BACK A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY COULD DO TO.

YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE EFFORTS ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, TO VALERIE'S POINT, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF US CHANGING OUR OUR PERSPECTIVE AND NOT JUST BEING REACTIVE, NOT JUST SPENDING MOST OF OUR TIME ON THE CALLS THAT COME IN, BUT ACTUALLY BEING OUT THERE A LOT MORE IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL WAS OKAY WITH THAT FOR THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED.

BUT WE THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO, I THINK, COME OUT OF THIS, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND I JUST WANT TO SORT OF STATE THEM BACK FOR EVERYONE.

FIRST THING IS, IF WE START ACTIVELY PURSUING CLEANUP OF THE NUISANCE PROPERTIES, THEN WHY DON'T YOU ASK WHAT YOU WOULD NEED, WHAT WE WOULD NEED FROM COUNCIL. ONE THING WE WOULD NEED IS YOUR SUPPORT.

WHEN WE BRING FORWARD BUDGET REQUESTS LATER FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COVER THINGS LIKE THE COURT COSTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN GOING THROUGH AND GETTING THE COURT TO GIVE US PERMISSION LIKE THEY DID ON THE OTHER ONE, TO GO AND CLEAN IT.

THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE SOME COSTS RELATED TO THE ACTUAL CLEANUP.

SO COUNCIL SUPPORTS THAT.

WE WILL PUT THOSE IN THERE AS BUDGET REQUESTS.

ADDITIONALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO FORECLOSURE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN'T FORECLOSE ON HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES.

SO IF SOMEONE LIVES IN THE HOME LIKE YOU'RE MENTIONING, AN EXAMPLE OF MAYBE AN OLDER PERSON LIVES THERE ALONE, THEY'RE THE HOMEOWNER.

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED BY STATE LAW TO DO ANY KIND OF FORECLOSURE.

SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT PROPERTIES WHERE IT'S VACANT OR MAYBE IT'S OWNED BY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE THERE AND IT'S NOT HOMESTEADED.

THOSE WOULD BE THE KIND WE WOULD DO FORECLOSURE ON.

BUT FOR EITHER OF THOSE CATEGORIES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE CHANGE OUR APPROACH, THAT WE BRING INFORMATION BACK TO COUNSEL SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, VALERIE MENTIONED A LIST OF LIKE EIGHT OR SO PROPERTIES THAT SHE HAS RIGHT NOW.

AS WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN, WE CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLES OF WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE AND YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THE ONES WE'RE TARGETING AND MAKE SURE THAT MATCHES WITH YOUR EXPECTATION OF WHAT WE REALLY FOCUS IN ON.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS JUST THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF BEING MORE PROACTIVE.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE VERSIONS OF THAT IN MY MIND AND MAYBE COUNCIL HAS OTHER OTHER THOUGHTS ON IT, BUT WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD GO.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS.

WE ALREADY HAVE OUR LIST OF WORKLOAD THAT COMES FROM EVERYBODY THAT CALLS IN COMPLAINTS.

WE KNOW THAT'S FIXED.

BUT WE CAN START A MORE AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN OF GOING STREET BY STREET.

IT'LL TAKE US TIME, BUT STREET BY STREET TO LOOK AT EVERY EVERY PROPERTY AS WE GO.

BUT MY THOUGHT IS, RATHER THAN TRY TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE NUANCE OF CODE VIOLATIONS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST BOG US DOWN AND WE WOULD BE ON EVERY STREET FOR DAYS AND DAYS, POTENTIALLY. IT'S BETTER THAT WE FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT ARE MORE VISIBLE, MORE OR OBVIOUS TO LIKE.

I DON'T THINK WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE SITING OF A HOUSE IS A LITTLE BIT RUNDOWN VERSUS THIS HOUSE HAS 20 CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF IT.

THAT ONE HAS PILES OF TRASH.

YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER, MORE OBVIOUS ISSUES.

SO IN TERMS OF A PLACE TO START, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

YOU KNOW, VALERIE MENTIONED THE LIST OF LIKE THE TOP TEN CODE COMPLAINTS.

WE COULD EVEN JUST USE THAT THAT PARTICULAR LIST TO GUIDE US.

BUT WE'RE JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FITS WITH WHERE COUNCIL WANTS US TO GO.

AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US DO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION ON THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM, BECAUSE WHEN I SAID NUISANCE NUISANCE PROPERTIES, THAT'S WHAT I ENVISIONED.

I'VE SEEN DISHWASHERS AND AND DRYERS IN FRONT OF IN FRONT OF PROPERTIES I'VE SEEN.

SO THE NUISANCE ONES MEET LIKE AN EVEN HIGHER STANDARD BECAUSE THEY'VE CREATED A, A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S RATS LIVING IN THE PILES OF TRASH

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BOTHERING ALL THE NEIGHBORS. MAYBE A GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE LESSER DOWN ON THE NUISANCE LIST.

IT'S JUST THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILDING UP LIENS.

THEY HAVE PILES OF TRASH.

MAYBE NOBODY'S COMPLAINING, BUT IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A MESS.

OR THEY HAVE ALL THE VEHICLES, JUNK VEHICLES PARKED AROUND.

WHAT I HEARD, MA'AM, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO GIVE MORE TEETH TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S PART OF THAT PROCESS.

BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT FOR THEM TO GO DOWN EVERY SINGLE STREET, THAT THAT WOULD BE SO TIME CONSUMING.

BUT CERTAINLY IDENTIFYING THOSE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IDENTIFYING IS A GREAT WAY TO START COUNCIL WITH A THUMBS UP.

OR I THINK WE GOT THUMBS UP.

BUT DO YOU NEED US NEED THIS IN A MOTION? THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION.

SO WE'LL WE'LL ADAPT OUR OUR POLICIES AND MOVE FORWARD AND BRING YOU SOME REQUESTS AND BUDGET LATER AS WELL.

SO FILIBERTO I CAN BARELY SEE.

YES, SIR. IF I MAY ADD TWO THINGS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR.

FOR. FOR MISS SHERMAN, I DO WANT THE CHANCE FOR THE HOMEOWNER TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION BEFORE ANY FINES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED HERE.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO, WHICH I BROUGHT UP TO YOU EARLIER ABOUT RENTING RENTAL PROPERTIES.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'LL FIND A MAILING ADDRESS ON THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE FOR THE ACTUAL HOMEOWNER'S ADDRESS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY RENTAL PROPERTIES OUT HERE AND MS..

SHERMAN, IF YOU CAN ALSO ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO WHATEVER COMES FORTH.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW THE CONTEXT OF THIS SITUATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOLKS THAT BUY PROPERTY.

BUT DON'T DON'T UPDATE THE MAILING ADDRESS ON PROPERTY APPRAISER IF THEY DON'T LIVE THERE.

SO THE NOTICE IS OF A VIOLATION, THE WARNING THAT WE MIGHT BE FINDING YOU AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF YOU DON'T RESOLVE IT, THOSE NOTICES GO TO WHATEVER ADDRESS IS LISTED ON THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE.

SO IF THE ADDRESS IS THE HOUSE AND WE'RE MAILING THAT AND YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, THEN YOU'RE NOT GETTING THEM AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ON A CONSTANT CAMPAIGN TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON.

THANK YOU. COUNSEL.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER? C.J. JOHNSON.

STAY CLOSE BY, VALERIE, JUST IN CASE.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL. MR. MAYOR.

MY NAME IS C.J. JOHNSON.

I'M FROM THE GREAT CITY OF MELBOURNE, RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

I AM THE FOUNDER OF BREAKPOINT LAW.

AND WHAT MY FIRM DOES IS WE MANAGE VACANT AND FORECLOSURE REGISTRIES FOR CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

AND WHAT WE DO IS ON THE REGISTRY SIDE IS THAT WE WILL MONITOR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN FIND, AS IN FORECLOSURE AND VACANT AND THE DATA THAT WE GET. WE MONITOR EVERY LIST IT'S FILED WITHIN THE CITY.

WE ALSO MONITOR ALL THE UTILITY DATA THAT WE CAN RECEIVE AND US VACANCY DATA.

SO IT GIVES US A GREATER LIST OF WHICH PROPERTIES ARE HAVE A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF BEING VACANT AND ALSO ONES THAT HAVE A 100% LIKELIHOOD OF BEING IN FORECLOSURE.

AND WHAT YOUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES IS THAT THE MORTGAGEE OR OR RESPONSIBLE PARTY REGISTER THE PROPERTY AND THEN MAINTAIN IT AS WELL.

SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT IS IS MONITORING THOSE PROPERTIES, SENDING THE NOTICES TO THE CORRECT BANKS.

SO WE KNOW EVERY EVERY PERSON FROM THE LIST, PENDANTS THROUGH ANY SERVICER, PROPERTY PRESERVATION COMPANY, WE HAVE A CONTACTS WITH HUNDREDS OF BANKS SO WE CAN GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON QUICKLY.

AND THEN IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, WHICH HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN, WE ALL, MY FIRM, WILL COME IN AND DO THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE AS WELL.

WE SEND OUT ALL OF THE NOTICES OF VIOLATION, NOTICES OF HEARING.

AND THIS TOUCHES A LITTLE BIT ON THE LEAN SIDE.

WE WILL ALSO PLACE LIENS, BUT UNDER CHAPTER 162.

WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THAT PROCESS IS WE CAN PUT A LEAN ON EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT THAT BANK OWNS.

SO IF IT'S A PROPERTY WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO KICK OUT AN OWNER THAT MAY BE AN OLDER PERSON, WE CAN GO TO THE VACANT PROPERTY SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY AND DO A FORECLOSURE ACTION BASED UPON A LEAN HERE IN PALM BAY.

SO WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THAT WITH THAT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND I THINK IT COULD BE A GREAT TOOL FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

BUT GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

SIR, HAVE YOU WORKED WITH OTHER CITIES IN WHAT YOU PROPOSE JUST NOW? HAVE YOU WORKED WITH OTHER CITIES IN OUR COUNTY? WE'RE NOT IN BREVARD COUNTY.

I CURRENTLY WORK WITH THE CITY OF APOPKA.

CITY OF SANFORD. SEMINOLE COUNTY.

PASCO COUNTY. FLINT, MICHIGAN.

E ST LOUIS, ILLINOIS.

YONKERS, NEW YORK.

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HAVE YOU. I KNOW THIS IS A RHETORICAL QUESTION.

I'M ASSUMING YOU HAD SUCCESS AT HELPING THEM CITIES WITH THE.

PROCESS AS FAR AS FORECLOSURES OR LIENS.

SURE. WE WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT COLLECTING THE FEES UP FRONT AND EDUCATING THE BANKS AND THE OTHER RESPONSIBLE PARTIES ON MAKING SURE THAT THEY REGISTER.

WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS A LOT OF THE BANKS DO NOT PAY ON PURPOSE.

SO THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT WE'VE COLLECTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR OUR CLIENTS, AND THAT'S MONEY THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN OTHERWISE.

AND SOME OF MY CLIENTS ARE USING IT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THEY'RE USING IT FOR FOR OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HELP BEAUTIFY THE CITY.

SO IT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. MY.

MADAM ATTORNEY, DID YOU.

DO YOU SEE VALUE TO A SERVICE LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE? HMM. HAVING FULLY.

SEARCH. TYPE OF SERVICE.

GET ON THE. AM I NOT ON? GET IT CLOSER TO YOU, MAN.

I HAVEN'T. I RESEARCH THE PRODUCT OR WHAT WHAT GENTLEMAN'S OFFERING TO DO.

I THINK MR. EDWARDS IN MY OFFICE, HE HANDLES MOST OF THE REAL ESTATE FOR THE CITY ANYWAY IN HOUSE.

AND HE WOULD BE.

I'M. PROBABLY THE BEST PERSON TO ADDRESS IF THERE'S OVERLAP BETWEEN WHAT IS ALREADY BEING PROVIDED TO THE CITY OR WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE CITY, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND AN OUTSIDE VENDOR.

AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS, CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT WOULD.

OKAY. ALL OF MY CONTRACTS OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS.

SO WE HAVE NOT EVER GONE THROUGH A BID PROCESS.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING THROUGH AND LETTING US KNOW.

PERHAPS, MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE BEAUTIFICATION TEAM OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ENHANCEMENT.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IS THAT ALL, MR. JOHNSON? YEP. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIRMAN, SPEAKING OF PROCUREMENT.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, VALERIE.

I THINK WE ARE ALL SET. APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

SO NEXT WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THREE NO.

FOUR PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT FOR YOU, BUT TWO MORE AT THIS POINT IN THE AGENDA.

THE FIRST WILL BE WE'VE BEEN GIVING DEPARTMENT UPDATES TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.

SO THIS NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE OUR PROCUREMENT.

CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER, JULIETTE MOSCONI WILL GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT HER DEPARTMENT DOES.

AND I'LL ASK HER TO COME ON UP.

THANK YOU, JULIETTE.

YOU'RE ABOUT. THANK YOU.

I THINK.

GOOD EVENING. I'M JULIET MOSCONI.

I'M THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER FOR THE CITY.

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT PROCUREMENT AND WHAT OUR ROLE IS IN THE CITY.

SO PROCUREMENT OVERSEES ALL THE PURCHASES IN THE CITY, BUT WE'RE MORE THAN JUST BUYERS.

OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS LISTED, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE SUPPORT OUR DEPARTMENTS SO THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS CAN SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS.

OUR PUBLIC PROCUREMENT IS VERY, VERY REGULATED BY FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS, CITY ORDINANCES, ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, PROCUREMENT MANUAL.

AND THEN ANY TIME WE HAVE A GRANT, THEY HAVE INDIVIDUAL PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE GRANTS.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT OUR STAFF IS CERTIFIED AND EDUCATED IN OUR FIELD.

OUR VISION IS TO SERVE AND CONNECT ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

AND WE HAVE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER THREE CUSTOMER BASES.

WE SERVE OUR CITIZENS BY PROTECTING THEIR VESTED INTERESTS AND MAXIMIZING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

WE SERVE OUR DEPARTMENTS, AS I MENTIONED, BY HELPING THEM DELIVER PUBLIC SERVICES.

AND WE SERVE OUR VENDORS BY FORMULATING PARTNERSHIPS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE DELIVERY.

AND WE DO ALL THIS WITH A MINDSET OF VALUE ADDED.

AND I HAVE THAT SIGN THERE ON THE RIGHT, HANGING ON THE WALL OF MY OFFICE.

WHEN YOU COME IN, WE'RE FOCUSED ON HOW CAN WE SERVE, WHICH MEANS WE'RE ALWAYS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND EXPECTATIONS FOR ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

AND OUR MISSION AND VISION WILL BE NOTHING WITHOUT OUR VALUES.

AND THEY ARE ETHICS, ACCOUNTABILITY, SERVICE, IMPARTIALITY, PROFESSIONALISM AND TRANSPARENCY.

THESE ARE THE FOUNDATION OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, AND THEY'RE ALSO FRAMED ON THE WALL OF OUR OFFICE.

WHEN YOU WALK IN KIND OF GETTING INTO MORE OF THE NITTY GRITTY OF OUR DEPARTMENT, THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUDGET DOES COME FROM SALARIES.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE LOWEST OPERATING BUDGET IN THE CITY AT $15,115, WHICH IS 2% OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET.

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WE HAVE SEVEN FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, ALMOST ALL OF WHOM ARE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL STAFF, AND WE HAVE ONE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

I DID WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE CREDENTIALS OF OUR STAFF.

WE HAVE CERTIFICATIONS FROM NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AND ACCREDITED PROCUREMENT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CERTIFIED PUBLIC PROCUREMENT OFFICER AND CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC BUYER. WE'RE EDUCATED, WE'RE EXPERIENCED, AND WE'VE WORKED AT MULTIPLE AGENCIES IN THE STATE AND ALSO EVEN IN THE COUNTRY.

SO THAT ALLOWS US TO BRING BEST PRACTICES HERE TO THE CITY.

SO THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR OFFICE DOES.

WE'RE A CROSS BETWEEN A COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT LIKE FINANCE AND ALSO A INTERNAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT LIKE IT.

ON A DAILY BASIS, WE'RE DOING MANY TASKS LIKE CREATING PURCHASE ORDERS, SOLICITING FOR BIDS, QUOTES AND PROPOSALS WHERE SOURCING NEW VENDORS, MANAGING MAINTAINING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR EXISTING ONES.

WE REVIEW ALL PURCHASING RELATED CONTRACTS.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

WE DO NEW CONTRACT SETUP RENEWALS.

WE RESOLVE A LOT OF DISPUTES.

WE ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH LEGAL AND POLICIES.

WE NEGOTIATE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND RATES FOR ALL OF OUR NEW CONTRACTS.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WE HOST PUBLIC MEETINGS, INCLUDING THE MINUTES AND AGENDAS FOR THOSE MEETINGS.

ALMOST EVERY MEETING WE HAVE RELATED TO A SOLICITATION IS A PUBLIC MEETING.

SO WE DO OVER 50 A YEAR.

WE DO STRATEGIC INITIATIVES LIKE SOURCING AND ENGAGING IN LONGER TERM CONTRACTS.

WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THAT RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM INFLATION.

WE REVIEW ALL THE GRANT REQUESTS PRIOR TO APPLICATION SO WE CAN ADVISE ON PROCUREMENT STRATEGIES RELATED TO THOSE GRANTS.

AND WE DO MARKET RESEARCH AND COMMODITY AND SERVICE WATCH.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, PRETTY MUCH EVERY RENEWAL THAT WE SEND OUT IS COMING BACK WITH A COST INCREASE.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS NEGOTIATING DOWN THOSE COST INCREASE.

WE HAVE NOT ACCEPTED ONE COST INCREASE PRESENTED TO US ON FACE VALUE YET WE DO A LOT OF STAFF TRAINING.

MY FELLOW DIRECTORS IN HERE ARE PROBABLY SICK OF HEARING ALL THE TRAINING THAT WE DO.

WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST INTERNAL TRAINING PROGRAM AND WE ALSO DISPOSE OF SURPLUS PROPERTY.

THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE VEHICLES OR EQUIPMENT THAT THE CITY CAN NO LONGER USE.

AND LASTLY, WE MANAGE THE CITY'S CREDIT CARD PROGRAM.

HERE'S SOME STATISTICS FROM OUR OFFICE, JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS.

YOU'LL NOTE THAT IN 2020, AT THE HEIGHT OF THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC, WE HAD A RECORD SETTING YEAR FOR A NUMBER OF SOLICITATIONS AND SOLICITATION VALUE.

AND LAST YEAR WE HAD A RECORD FOR THE NUMBER OF PURCHASE ORDERS WE ISSUED AND PURCHASE ORDER VALUE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WE GENERATE REVENUE AND THAT'S THROUGH BOTH THE SURPLUS PROGRAM BUT ALSO THE REBATE PROGRAM.

FROM OUR CREDIT CARDS, WE GET A REBATE KIND OF LIKE YOUR YOUR CASH BACK PROGRAM ON YOUR PERSONAL CARDS.

AND WE ALSO GET A REBATE FROM CERTAIN CONTRACTS WE UTILIZE LIKE HOME DEPOT.

SO LAST YEAR WE GENERATED A TOTAL OF OVER 365,000 IN REVENUE, WHICH WAS MORE THAN HALF OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET.

ONE OF OUR PRIMARY FOCUSES IS ENCOURAGING SMALL, LOCAL AND DISADVANTAGED BUSINESSES FROM DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF INITIATIVES THAT WE DO.

ONE OF THEM IS EFFICIENCIES.

WE STARTED IN 2020, DURING THE PANDEMIC AS JUST A RESULT OF OPERATIONS ACCEPTING QUOTES THAT PROCUREMENT DOES SO BETWEEN 25 AND 100,000 ELECTRONICALLY. AND WE FOUND THAT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD PRACTICE.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY INCORPORATED THAT INTO OUR POLICY.

AND NOW ALL QUOTES UNDER 100,000 CAN BE RECEIVED ELECTRONICALLY.

WE'VE ALSO UPDATED MOST OF OUR DOCUMENTS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH IT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ADA COMPLIANT.

AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'RE DOING, I'M CALLING SIMPLIFY THE SUBMITTAL, WHICH IS ELIMINATING FORMS, FORMS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR DECADES, SOME OF THEM WHICH REQUIRE A NOTARY.

SO ACTUALLY, JUST THIS WEEK WE ELIMINATED OUR LAST NOTARIZED DOCUMENT FROM ALL OF OUR SOLICITATIONS THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE'VE IMPROVED, OF COURSE, OUR ORDINANCE AND ADMIN CODE.

WE HAVE REALLY UPDATED OUR WEBSITE.

WE HAVE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON OUR WEBSITE.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY VIDEO CLIPS.

THERE ARE FIVE OF THEM. THEY'RE 4 TO 7 MINUTES IN LENGTH.

THEY BREAK DOWN EACH PART OF OUR PROCESS AND IT ALLOWS VENDORS TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY ON THEIR OWN TIME, ON DEMAND, BECAUSE THEY ARE BUSY AND THEY OFTEN CAN'T MEET WITH US DURING BUSINESS HOURS.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR DOING BUSINESS WEBINARS THAT WE LAUNCHED IN FISCAL YEAR 2022.

THE LAST ONE WAS IN THE FALL.

WE HAD OVER 400 VENDORS PARTICIPATE IN OUR LAST WEBINAR.

WE DO VENDOR EVENT GUEST SPEAKING.

I'VE GIVEN TALKS AT THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES AND THE BREVARD MINORITY BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.

I'M ALSO HAVE REACHED OUT TO, OF COURSE, TO THE PALM BAY CHAMBER, BUT ALSO IN TALKS RIGHT NOW WITH THE SPACE COAST BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO DO AN EVENT AT THEIR

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NEXT ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.

AND IF ANY BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IS LISTENING AND WOULD LIKE ME TO COME OUT, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT PROCUREMENT AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO COME TO YOUR NETWORKING EVENTS AND TALK ABOUT DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

AND LASTLY, WE USE VENDOR LINK.

WE USE IT FOR EVERYTHING OVER 25,000 THAT OUR OFFICE DOES AND WE ENCOURAGE OUR DEPARTMENTS TO USE IT FOR SMALLER VALUE.

I LOVE VENDOR LINK. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST INITIATIVES WE LAUNCHED IN 2020.

IT IS FREE.

IT IS EASY TO USE.

ONE OF THE VIDEOS THAT I DID WAS A STEP BY STEP GUIDE ON HOW TO REGISTER WITH VENDOR LINK.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF OTHER AGENCIES IN BREVARD THAT ARE ALSO USING VENDOR LINK, IF YOU WANT TO BE DOING BUSINESS WITH GOVERNMENT IN BREVARD COUNTY, YOU SHOULD REALLY BE REGISTERED FOR THAT SERVICE.

I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT AND JUST GOING BACK TO THAT.

SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH, WE'VE HOSTED NINE INTERNAL CLASSES AND WE'VE HAD TWO VENDOR EVENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON SOME OF THOSE FORMS THAT I TALK ABOUT, AND IN THE FUTURE WE HOPE TO HAVE AN IN-PERSON EVENT AND MOVE EVENTUALLY TO FULLY ELECTRONIC PROCUREMENT. IT'S CALLED E-PROCUREMENT.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO LAUNCH THAT.

IT'S ACTUALLY BUILT INTO VENDOR LINK.

THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY TO MOVE TO THAT.

IT'S JUST A LOT OF PLANNING AND PROGRESSION, SO WE'RE HOPING TO LAUNCH THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND WHILE I HAVE THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION, I JUST WANTED TO DO A LITTLE SHOUT OUT ABOUT OUR WEBSITE.

WE HAVE MANY WAYS TO CONNECT WITH US.

YOU CAN CLICK ON DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY FROM THE CITY'S HOMEPAGE.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH IT TO DEVELOP SOME FRIENDLY LINKS THAT ARE EASY TO REMEMBER.

SO PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG FORWARD SLASH PROCUREMENT OR SLASH VENDORS WILL GET YOU TO OUR WEBSITE AND ON OUR WEBSITE.

UNDER THE DOING BUSINESS PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THOSE VIDEOS AND SOME OF OUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, A LIST OF ALL OF OUR BID AND PROPOSAL OPPORTUNITIES.

WE POSTED ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS THAT JUST HAPPENED THIS YEAR.

EVERY CONTRACT THAT THE CITY HAS SOLICITED AND HAS A CONTRACT FOR IS NOW TRANSPARENTLY POSTED FOR ANYONE TO SEE ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND IT MAKES OUR PROCESS BETTER, BUT ALSO IT MAKES PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS NON-EXISTENT.

IF YOU NEED THE CONTRACT, THERE IT IS.

IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. OF COURSE, WE'RE HAPPY TO GUIDE PEOPLE TO HOW TO ACCESS IT.

AND LASTLY, THERE'S A SHOT OF HOW TO CONNECT WITH US.

WE ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

I REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND I MEAN SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU ALL SAY THAT THE CITY IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND I MEAN THAT WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH OUR VENDORS AS WE WE ACTUALLY HOSTED A CLASS THIS MORNING FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS ON MANAGING VENDOR PERFORMANCE.

AND THE BIG EMPHASIS THAT WE CLOSED WITH IS WE CAN'T DELIVER SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS WITHOUT OUR VENDOR PARTNERS AND WE NEED TO TREAT THEM AS SUCH.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE OR CALL OR EMAIL US AND WE ARE AVAILABLE AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

SO. SO, JULIETTE, I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING A PUBLIC SEMINAR OF OF SOME SORT.

YEAH. ENCOURAGING.

MAYBE THE EDC AND OTHER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHETHER THEY'RE MELBOURNE OR PALM BAY, TO BE INVOLVED, MAKE IT A REALLY BIG PUBLIC EVENT, SO TO SPEAK, WHERE YOU COULD PASS ON THAT INFORMATION.

IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE PLANNING IN THE NEAR FUTURE? I'M KIND OF THINKING OF THOSE AS TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

SO FOR OUR EVENT, WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON IS WE CAN CONNECT WITH VENDORS AND HELP VENDORS CONNECT WITH DEPARTMENTS AND SERVE AS THAT GO BETWEEN. AND WE OFTEN DO.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO DO AN EVENT WHERE WE TEACH VENDORS ABOUT DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, AND THEN THAT'S IN ONE ROOM.

AND I'VE ACTUALLY WAS TALKING TO A STAFF MEMBER ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING.

WE WERE PLANNING IT A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN YOU WOULD GO TO ANOTHER ROOM AND THERE'S A TABLE WITH EVERY KIND OF DEPARTMENT THAT YOU'D WANT TO INTERACT WITH THAT HAS A STAFF MEMBER THERE SO THAT YOU CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS AND WHAT THE CITY'S NEEDS ARE AND KIND OF PAIR THEM UP.

I WOULD I HAVE OFFERED THE CHAMBER IF THEY WOULD LIKE ME TO COME SPEAK AT ONE OF THEIR EVENTS, I'D BE GLAD TO.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO SEPARATE THINGS, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM, IT DOES.

COUNCIL. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MA'AM, SINCE YOU'VE GOTTEN THIS ROLE YEARS AGO, YOU'VE BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB.

YOU'VE REALLY INCREASED THE ENGAGEMENT FOR THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW YOU JUST RECENTLY GOT VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR AS WELL.

YES. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

BUT I JUST YEAH, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE BEEN DOING AMAZING JOB.

SO I'M JUST HERE TO SING YOUR PRAISES, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. WELL, THAT WASN'T MUCH OF A SONG, THOUGH, SIR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU KNOW, I SAT DOWN AND MET WITH YOU BEFORE COMING ON THIS DIAS, AND YOU'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING

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JOB. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

JUST FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE, THE PE CARDS, HOW DO WE KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THE CARDS AND MAKE SURE THE PURCHASE IS OFF FOR THE CITY AND NOT FOR INDIVIDUAL HOCKEY? YEAH, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

SO PICARD'S HAVE PROS AND CONS.

PICARD'S FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT IS OUR CREDIT CARD PROGRAM.

SO OF COURSE THEY PROVIDE A GREAT AMOUNT OF EFFICIENCY, RIGHT? AND IF THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT NEEDS A PART TO MAKE A REPAIR THAT THEY DON'T HAVE IN STOCK, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TWO DAYS FOR AN ORDER OFF A PURCHASE ORDER IN THAT PART TO ARRIVE, THEY CAN GO TO A LOCAL VENDOR AND MAKE THE PURCHASE.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WITHOUT VERY CLOSELY MONITORING, IT, OF COURSE HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE.

SO WE DO A LOT OF THINGS TO MONITOR OUR CARDS.

FIRST OF ALL, OUR PARTNER PROGRAM IS WITH BANK OF AMERICA, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY ROBUST MONITORING PROGRAM BUILT INTO IT.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN RUN A REPORT AT ANY TIME THAT TELLS ME IF SOMEBODY WENT TO THE SAME STORE TWICE IN ONE DAY AND PERHAPS VIOLATED THE SINGLE TRANSACTION LIMIT, WE CAN RUN IT FOR THINGS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE PROHIBITIONS ON ANYTHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE BOUGHT FOR THE CITY.

SO YOU CAN'T USE YOUR P CARD TO BUY ALCOHOL, FOR EXAMPLE.

IT WON'T WORK.

IT'S LITERALLY SHUT OFF.

WE'VE ACTUALLY RUN INTO PROBLEMS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A LEGITIMATE NEED, LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BUY SOME AMMUNITION AND THEY CAN'T PURCHASE IT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S CUT OFF AND WE CAN MAKE AMENDS.

BUT WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST AUDIT PROGRAM AS WELL.

WE ACTUALLY DO A PHYSICAL AUDIT OF P CARDS EVERY YEAR.

WE'RE IN TUNE WITH THE HR DEPARTMENT.

SO AS SOON AS AN EMPLOYEE LEAVES, WE CAN IMMEDIATELY CLICK A BUTTON AND SHUT THEIR PICARD OFF.

EVEN IF THEY GO IN FMA, WE CAN SUSPEND IT DURING THAT TIME.

WE DO SPOT CHECKS FOR SPEND CONTROL AND THEN EVERY YEAR EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD THROUGH THEIR PICARD REP AND THEIR OFFICE IS ASKED TO EXAMINE WHO THEIR CARDHOLDERS ARE, HOW MUCH SPEND LIMIT THEY HAVE, AND WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING.

WE RUN AN ENTIRE REPORT OF THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR AND WE ASK THEM TO REVIEW THAT AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO REIN IN SPENDING WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE REINED IN OR PERHAPS INCREASE IT WHERE YOU COULD GET GREATER EFFICIENCY.

A LONG EXPLANATION, HAVE WE HAVE YOU FOUND ANY ABUSE? I HAVE NOT FOUND ANY ABUSE, NOR DID J.

LACK WHEN THEY WERE HERE IN.

MY LAST QUESTION IS.

ARE WE PROMOTING LOCAL BUSINESS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF PALM BAY? HOW ARE WE REACHING OUT TO OUR BUSINESS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF PALM BAY? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WE'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND IT STARTS HONESTLY WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES IN PALM BAY ARE NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING IN BIDS FOR VERY LARGE PURCHASES.

NOW WE HAVE A SEMI DECENTRALIZED THRESHOLD, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT LONG TERM IS THAT UP TO 10,000 THE DEPARTMENT CAN GET A QUOTE FROM ANYWHERE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE.

THEY DON'T NEED MULTIPLE QUOTES AND THEY CAN ENTER A PURCHASE ORDER FOR US TO PROCESS.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE SWEET SPOT WHERE WE'RE ENCOURAGING OUR DEPARTMENTS TO REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL VENDORS.

VENDOR LINK HAS THE ABILITY TO RUN A VENDOR LIST BY CITY SO THEY CAN FILTER IT DOWN JUST TO CITY OF PALM BAY BUSINESSES AND DO OUTREACH JUST TO THEM.

AND THEN ON OUR SIDE, THIS IS WHY I PARTICIPATE IN AS MANY EVENTS AS I CAN.

WE ALSO GO TO REVERSE TRADESHOWS FOR THE CENTRAL FLORIDA REGION, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU THINK IT IS.

INSTEAD OF THE VENDORS BEING SET UP, WE ARE SET UP AND THEN WE CAN HEAR ABOUT WHAT THEIR BUSINESSES ARE AND CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT WAY.

IT'S NOT WITHOUT ITS CHALLENGES.

I CAN PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE AS I CAN, BUT I NEED THE BUSINESSES TO KIND OF LET ME KNOW WHERE WE CAN CONNECT.

THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

A JUST A QUICK QUESTION HERE.

DO YOU HAVE A LOCAL PREFERENCE OR A LOCAL SCORING CRITERIA WHEN YOU PLACE YOUR BIDS? NO, THERE IS NOT ONE IN OUR ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

BUT THERE WAS ONE PREVIOUSLY AND WE CHANGED IT.

HE EXPLAINED WHY.

SURE. IN THERE WAS A LOCAL PREFERENCE FOR THE CITY.

THERE WAS A BID PREFERENCE AND AN RFP PREFERENCE.

IT HAD SEVERAL CATEGORIES.

THE HIGHEST CATEGORY WAS FOR A PALM BAY BUSINESS WHO WANT A BUSINESS AND THEN OR A BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY.

BUT THEY GUARANTEED THAT 50% OF THEIR STAFF WOULD BE PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

WE HAD A PREFERENCE FOR BREVARD COUNTY, SO AND THEN A PREFERENCE FOR OUTSIDE OF BREVARD COUNTY WAS REALLY NO PREFERENCE.

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SO IN 2020 I DID A WORKSHOP FOR COUNCIL AND I BROUGHT FORWARD SEVERAL PROCUREMENT ISSUES.

IT WAS IT WAS 45 MINUTES OF THIS KIND OF FUN.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS LOCAL PREFERENCE.

I DID NOTE THAT AT THE TIME THE BID PREFERENCE WAS NOT EFFECTIVE.

IN FACT, IT HAD NOT IMPACTED THE OUTCOME OF AN AWARD.

AND IT WAS A 10% PREFERENCE FOR PALM BAY BUSINESSES IN THE PRIOR TWO FISCAL YEARS, AND THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR BACK AS I HAD GONE AT THAT TIME.

THE RFP PREFERENCE HAD IMPACTED ONE AWARD, AND WHAT IT DID IS IT GAVE THE BUSINESS TO RAYMOND JAMES VERSUS I THINK IT WAS JPMORGAN. MORGAN BECAUSE RAYMOND JAMES HAPPENED TO HAVE AN OFFICE IN MELBOURNE AND THAT'S HOW THE PREFERENCE WAS BUILT.

ALL THEY HAD TO HAVE IS A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT IN THE CITY, SO IN BREVARD COUNTY IN THAT CASE.

SO IT DID ACTUALLY CHANGE THE AWARD OF THAT ONE.

WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

ONE OF THE OPTIONS I HAD SUGGESTED WAS HAVING A PREFERENCE FOR RFP AND FOR WHAT'S CALLED RFK'S REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS.

THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH LOCAL PREFERENCE.

THERE HAVE BEEN LAWSUITS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE STANDARD OR THE NORM.

THE MOST PUBLIC ONE WAS THE CITY OF TUCSON.

THEY WERE SUED FOR THEIR LOCAL PREFERENCE POLICY.

LOCAL PREFERENCES ALSO CHALLENGING AT A GRANT FUNDING LEVEL.

YOU CANNOT USE LOCAL PREFERENCE IF YOU HAVE ANY FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE ACTUAL PURCHASE.

AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA ACTUALLY HAS A PROHIBITION ON LOCAL PREFERENCE.

FLORIDA STATUTE TWO 55.0991.

IF YOU HAVE STATE APPROPRIATED FUNDING OF ANY AMOUNT, YOU CANNOT USE LOCAL PREFERENCE.

AND THAT ACTUALLY JUST CHANGED BEFORE THAT.

IF YOUR PROJECT WAS 50% FUNDED BY STATE FUNDING, YOU COULDN'T USE IT.

NOW, IF IT'S $1 OF STATE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDING, YOU CAN'T HAVE A LOCAL PREFERENCE.

AND 2018 THE COUNTY BREVARD COUNTY REMOVE THEIR LOCAL PREFERENCE.

NOT TO SAY THAT THERE AREN'T OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE IT.

MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT FOR BIDS AND QUOTES, IT IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE TECHNIQUE TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES FOR RFPS OR RFQ. IT COULD BE CONSIDERED WHEN NOT JUST COST IS A CONSIDERATION.

YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. AND SOME.

OUR LAST PRESENTATION FOR THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT UPDATE.

THIS IS FOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

SO BRIAN ROBINSON, OUR DIRECTOR, WILL COME UP AND PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO COUNSEL.

THANK YOU. EXCELLENT.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS BRIAN ROBINSON, IET DIRECTOR.

ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST, I LIKE TO START WITH OUR MISSION AND OUR SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.

WE PROVIDE SERVICES THAT SUPPORT ENTERPRISE INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT MEETS OR EXCEED AND OR EXCEEDS CITY GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO CITIZENS.

I.T DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY SUPPORTS ALL OF OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IF IT'S FIRE, POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS COVERED THROUGH I.T., WE PROCURE AND WORK WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO MEET THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR PROCUREMENT.

SO EVERYTHING FILTERS THROUGH IT FOR ALL OF THE TECHNICAL TECHNOLOGY NEED FOR THE CITY.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SUPPORT HERE IS THE CITY WIDE NETWORK BACKBONE, OUR TELEPHONE SYSTEM, OUR DATA INTERNET AS WELL AS COMPUTER SERVERS, PERIPHERALS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

FOR APPLICATIONS, WE HAVE ABOUT 850 EMPLOYEES AND GROWING IN THE CITY.

WE'RE A TEAM OF 16 INDIVIDUALS AND WE'RE CURRENTLY CONTINUING TO LOOK INTO EXPAND OUR TEAM TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE MEET UP WITH THE NEED AND GROWTH OF OUR CITY.

I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHOW COUNCIL AND OUR RESIDENTS, THE HEROES OF OUR I.T.

DEPARTMENT, WITHOUT WHICH NONE OF OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE FROM IT PERSPECTIVE, WOULD BE POSSIBLE.

SO I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR GREAT WORK, THEIR INNOVATION, THEIR CREATIVITY, THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE WITH ALL OF OUR CITY STAFF AND DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS AMAZING.

SO I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARD WORK AND THE TIRELESS HOURS THAT WE WORK.

AND JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU WHETHER IT'S A DAY TO DAY OPERATION THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OR WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A HURRICANE TYPE ENVIRONMENT, OR WE HAVE TO MODIFY OUR OPERATIONS FOR COVID 19, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH VIRTUAL COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO HOWEVER WE HAVE TO DO WE ARE FLEXIBLE, WE ARE READY TO WORK, AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FOCUSED ON TEAM BUILDING AND CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT IN FOSTERS

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INNOVATION. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS AND THANKS TO MY TEAM AND VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ACCOMPLISHING EVEN MORE.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY, BEFORE I JUMP INTO OUR ACHIEVEMENTS HERE, NONE OF OUR ACHIEVEMENTS HERE WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT COUNCIL SUPPORT, WITHOUT OUR EXECUTIVE STAFF SUPPORT FROM SUZANNE AND JOAN, AS WELL AS ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ALL OF OUR CITY STAFF AND, OF COURSE, OUR I.T.

TEAM. NONE OF THIS WILL BE POSSIBLE, SO NONE OF THESE ACHIEVEMENTS WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF EVERYONE.

SO JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON AND I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU HERE BRIEFLY, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO IMPROVE OUR SECURITY POSTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY ROLLED OUT MULTIPLE SECURITY PRODUCTS.

OF COURSE, I CAN'T GET INTO DETAILS OF ALL OF THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY ENHANCING THE WAY WE PROTECT THE DATA OF THE CITY AND THE WAY HOW WE AUTHENTICATE THROUGH THE CITY.

AND THERE'S MANY OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO ROLL OUT HERE FURTHER THIS YEAR.

SO I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE'VE MOVED OUR UTILITY BUILDING APPLICATION TO SECURE APPLICATION, WHICH IS CALLED INVOICE CLOUD. AND SO NOW THAT GIVES RESIDENTS THE ABILITY FOR MULTIPLE WAYS TO PAY UTILITY BILL IN A FORMAT THAT IS MUCH MORE SECURED.

SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT TRANSITION.

WE ALSO SUPPORTED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE ROLLOUT OF THE BODY CAM PROJECT, WHICH ARE VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND THAT IS ASSIST OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH CAPTURING EVIDENCE AND MANAGEMENT OF EVIDENCE INFORMATION.

AND AGAIN, THIS CONTINUES TO PROMOTE OUR CITY'S INITIATIVE OF PROGRESSIVE POLICING AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE ALSO ROLLED OUT OUR ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE APPLICATION THAT ALLOWS US TO AUTOMATE A LOT OF PAPERWORK, SUBMITTAL THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST.

SO WHEREAS BEFORE YOU WOULD BE TURNING IN PAPERWORK TO OUT OF HR OR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO AUTOMATE SOME OF THAT PROCESS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO.

SO NOW YOU'RE ABLE TO JUST GO ON YOUR COMPUTER, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.

IT GETS OVER TO THE HR DEPARTMENT.

BUT BEFORE THAT, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE OTHER CROSS CHECKS TO MAKE SURE A DEPARTMENT HEAD CAN SIGN OFF ON THAT DOCUMENT.

SO PAPER KIND OF GOES AWAY.

IT'S PART OF OUR INITIATIVE TO GET THERE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT.

SOME OF THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS OUR DISASTER RECOVERY SITE.

WE ARE CONTINUING TO ROLL THAT OUT.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE SITE COMPLETELY UP AND RUNNING BY AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.

WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES, OF COURSE, WITH CHIP SHORTAGES AND OF VENDORS ACTUALLY WORKING THROUGH THEIR SCHEDULE.

THEY'RE SUPER BUSY.

WE ALSO SEE THAT THERE ARE MANY CHANGES WITHIN THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE FROM DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS AND THINGS.

SO THINGS ARE CHANGING AS WE'RE BUILDING WHILE IN FLIGHT.

SO WE'RE MAKING A. ADJUSTMENTS THERE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOST CURRENT AND UP TO DATE SYSTEM WHEN WE COMPLETELY GO LIVE HERE IN AUGUST.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO WANT TO MENTION HERE IS OUR ACHIEVEMENT FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE IMS PROJECT, AND THAT HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT, WOULD BEEN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, OF COURSE, PROCUREMENT, OUR CITY MANAGER TEAM AND OF COURSE COUNCIL SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION TO MOVE ONLINE AS WELL AS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND OUR TEAM.

SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THAT IS UP AND RUNNING PHASE ONE IS COMPLETED AT THIS POINT AND WE'RE MOVING INTO PHASE TWO.

WE, WE, WE WENT WITH THIS APPROACH PREVIOUS APPLICATION THAT WE DID, WE KIND OF TRIED TO DO ALL AT ONE TIME.

AND SO WE'VE CHANGED OUR STRATEGY WITH THAT AND DO A PHASE APPROACH SO WE CAN AT LEAST MODEL SOME SUCCESS AS WE MOVE INTO THE SECOND ROUND SO WE COULD GIVE THE ATTENTION THAT'S NEEDED FOR EACH PORTION OF THE APPLICATION.

SO PHASE TWO, OUR KICKOFF WAS APRIL 27TH AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY NOW MOVED FORWARD.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT TEAM BEATERS, PUBLIC WORKS, COMMERCIAL AND CODE COMPLIANCE WILL BE A PART OF PHASE TWO.

SO THAT WOULD ALLOW ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THOSE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER.

ALL WILL NOW MOVE AWAY FROM BEING A PAPER BASED APPLICATION SYSTEM TO ALL BE AN ELECTRONIC.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND SO OUR GOAL FOR PHASE TWO WOULD BE THE END OF JANUARY OF 2023.

SO WE'RE QUICKLY ROLLING THAT OUT.

NEXT ACCOMPLISHMENT WE'VE ACHIEVED IS WE'VE LAUNCHED A MERCY NOTIFICATION CITYWIDE, AND SO THAT ALLOWS US TO NOTIFY OUR STAFF MEMBER WHENEVER THERE IS AN IMMINENT THREAT OR THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOES ON.

AND WITHIN THE CITY WE CAN TAKE OVER THAT COMPUTER SCREEN OR YOUR ELECTRONIC DEVICE AND LET YOU BE AWARE INSTEAD OF ANNOUNCE IN THE PRESENCE OF A PERSON OR SOMETHING. SO WE CAN USE THAT AS A NOTIFICATION.

SO WE'VE ROLLED THAT OUT.

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WE ALSO USE THIS WITH OUR HR DEPARTMENT TO SEND REMINDERS WHEN FOLKS NEED TO DO OPEN ENROLLMENT.

SO THERE IS ADDITIONAL BENEFITS TO JUST NOTIFYING STAFF OF SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP.

WE'VE ALSO REPLACED ALL OF THE CITYWIDE TIME CLOCK THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CAMP, ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES THAT'S TOTALED ABOUT 20. THIS HAS BEEN AN INITIATIVE THAT THIS REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A HOME.

AND SO WE TOOK IT ON IN IT AND MOVED FORWARD THE SUPPORT OF OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE TIME CLOCK SYSTEM TO A MORE SECURE SYSTEM AND A SIMPLER SYSTEM FOR OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO USE TO CLOCK IN AND CLOCK OUT DAILY.

WE ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A VERY BIG INITIATIVE WHICH IS OUR ADA COMPLIANCE.

SO WE'VE LOOKED AT SOFTWARE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE OR ANYTHING THAT WE PUT OUT AND IT VERIFIES IF IT'S COMPLIANT OR NOT, AND WE CAN SEE THAT PROACTIVELY. WE ALSO HAVE DONE SOME BASIC TRAINING, WHICH WE CALL ADA 101 TRAINING FOR SELECT CITYWIDE STAFF.

SO EVERY DEPARTMENT HAD THEIR OWN REPRESENTATIVE THAT CAME TO THE 101 TRAINING THAT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE OUR STAFF AS TO WHAT ADA COMPLIANCE IS AND HOW DO WE DO THAT NEXT PORTION OF THAT, WE'VE ADDED AN OPTION TO NOW AUTOMATE THAT PROCESS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ROLLING OUT SOFTWARE WHICH WILL ACTUALLY ROLL OUT ONE PORTION OF OUR SOFTWARE SO FAR, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO ROLL OUT A SECOND VERSION OF IT THAT ALLOWS US TO AUTOMATE THE PROCESS.

IF YOU HAVE A WORK DOCUMENT, WE CAN SIMPLY BY A CLICK OF A BUTTON, TAKE THAT DOCUMENT AND MAKE IT ADA COMPLIANT.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PROCESS BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR FOR INSTANCE, I'LL GIVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF P AND Z REPORTS AND THEY ARE VERY BIG DOCUMENTS.

SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST FOCUS ON THE PERSON MANUALLY DOING THAT PROCESS.

WE WANTED TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE AUTOMATE THAT PROCESS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIG INITIATIVES AT THIS POINT, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH.

I ALSO WANT TO JUST TO MENTION THAT ALL OF OUR FINDINGS THAT WE HAD FROM JACQUE, WE'VE ACTUALLY RESPONDED TO ALL OF THEM AND WE'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS IN EVERY AREA THAT REQUIRED ATTENTION AND WE'VE COMPLIED WITH EVERYTHING SO FAR.

SO JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT.

AND AS A DEPARTMENT, AS AGAIN AN IT IS, WE'RE A SUPPORT STAFF OF PORT SYSTEM AND SO FOR OUR TEAM.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONTINUALLY LOOK FORWARD IS TO HOW DO WE PROVIDE MORE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THINGS SIMPLER FOR OUR TEAM AND FOR THEM TO WORK HARDER FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT WE'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO ROLL OUT NEW APPLICATIONS THAT WILL MAKE THINGS SIMPLER, MORE SECURE, AND PROVIDE MORE SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS.

OUR BUDGET PERSPECTIVE.

I WANT TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU HERE.

YOU'LL SEE HERE OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS ABOUT $3.53 MILLION, OF WHICH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, 39% OF THAT GOES TO PERSONNEL AND 61% GOES TO OUR OPERATING.

AND YOU MIGHT BE THINKING, WOW, IT HAS 61% OF OPERATING.

WELL, THERE IS A LITTLE STIR BEHIND THAT.

SO ALL OF OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE ROLLS INTO THE IT'S BUDGET.

SO ANYTHING FROM A TECHNOLOGY PERSPECTIVE, MOST OF WHICH ROLLS INTO IT.

SO WE ARE REALLY PROVIDING SUPPORT OR OUR OPERATING AS PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR ALL CITYWIDE STAFF.

SO THAT'S WHY OUR OPERATING COSTS MAY LOOK THAT HIGH.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR JUST APPLICATIONS THAT WE ROLL OUT, OUR WEBSITE MAINTENANCE, OUR SECURITY INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR DISASTER RECOVERY INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ROLL INTO OUR OPERATING ANY APPLICATION THAT CITY WIDE DEPARTMENTS USE, THEY ALL PRETTY MUCH STAYS IN IT.

AND WE TAKE CARE OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE TAKE CARE OF THE RENEWALS, WE TAKE CARE OF THE NEGOTIATION FOR IT.

WE WORK THROUGH ALL OF THAT PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU MAY SEE A DIFFERENCE THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR OPERATING COST LOOKS LIKE.

HERE IS OUR CURRENT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

AND SO WE HAVE A NETWORK TEAM, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION TEAM, WE HAVE OUR HELPDESK TEAM WHICH COMPRISES OF OUR FOUR INDIVIDUALS THERE, PLUS OUR MOBILE SUPPORT SPECIALISTS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR ADMIN TEAM WITH OUR SUPPORT SERVICE COORDINATOR AND ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY.

SOME OF OUR PRIORITIES FOR 2023 IS TO ADD TWO NEW STAFF MEMBERS.

WE'RE LOOKING TO GET AN OPERATIONS NETWORK, OPERATIONS MANAGER AND INFORMATION SECURITY ANALYST.

AND SO THESE TWO KEY POSITIONS WILL HELP US TO CONTINUE TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

WE'RE CONTINUALLY GROWING AGAIN, OUR NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE WITH A FOCUS ON SECURITY.

AND SO WE NEED AN EXTRA EYES ON OUR NETWORK.

AND SO WE HAVE MORE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE DO FROM AN AUDIT PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE OF COURSE RESPOND TO AUDITS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN INTERNAL FINANCE FINANCE AUDIT THAT HAPPENS, WHICH HAS AN IT COMPONENT WHICH WE RESPOND TO.

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WE ALSO HAVE AN FDLE AUDIT THAT WE WORK WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH AS WELL.

SO WE ARE ENGAGED WITH ALL THOSE AUDITS AS WELL FROM A CITY WIDE PERSPECTIVE.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUDITS, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE DO FROM AN I.T.

PERSPECTIVE TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THESE TWO POSITIONS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SECURE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO ADD TO OUR TEAM TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH ALLOWS US WHAT WE CALL TO CREATE A CREATE A RING.

ALL OF OUR MOST OF OUR SITE HAS FIBER RUNNING TO THEM AND IN AND PREDATES ME.

BUT IT'S INTERESTING TO LEARN THAT OUR TEAM ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY WENT OUT AND RAN FIBER IN THE CITY, WHICH I THINK IT WAS A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR US BECAUSE WE SAVED THE CITY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

DUDE, THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY PICTURES OF TEAM MEMBERS GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY LAYING FIBER IN THE GROUND.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR US AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE WORK WE HAVE ALREADY DONE AND INVESTED IN THE CITY.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OVER 200 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT, THE PROFESSIONALLY.

SO JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, WHETHER THAT'S A MIXTURE OF CERTIFICATIONS AND JUST EXPERIENCES ALL COMBINED OVER 200 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

SO WE'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE GROUP WE HAVE AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO GROW.

AND LASTLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTINUING TO EXPAND OUR DISASTER RECOVERY SITE TO INCLUDE A FULLY FUNCTIONAL TELEPHONE SYSTEM IN OUR DISASTER RECOVERY SITE.

AGAIN, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GO WITH OUR PHASE TWO OF OUR DISASTER RECOVERY INITIATIVE, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ROLL THAT FORWARD.

AND THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION.

I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

BRIAN. EXCELLENT JOB.

YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTENING.

IT WAS JUST SO MANY THINGS.

I KNOW I HAD 5 MINUTES.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO.

TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND YOUR SMALL STAFF AND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE CITY.

I THINK IT'S TO BE COMMENDED.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT. LET'S REINFORCE THEM.

BRIAN, THANK YOU.

I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC KNOWS HOW VALUABLE THE IT DEPARTMENT IS.

OUR BIGGEST THREAT TO THE CITY IS CIVIL SECURITY.

YES, SIR. I GET ATTACK ON MY EMAIL ALL THE TIME FROM FAKE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET INTO MY I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CHOOSE ME, BUT IN SOME WAYS, YES, BECAUSE I GOT MY NAME ON THE INTERNET SO MUCH AND MY PHONE NUMBER AND ALL THAT.

BUT THAT'S A THREAT.

AND I'M VERY CAREFUL WHAT I CLICK ON.

VERY, VERY CAREFUL WHAT I CLICK ON.

I MEAN, THEY ACTUALLY THREATEN ME.

I GET THREATS ALL THE TIME.

YOU KNOW. MY CONCERN AND AND MAYBE YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS.

SURE. OTHER CITIES IN FLORIDA HAS BEEN THREATENED THROUGH THE THE TO THE THROUGH THE INFORMATION AND SYSTEM IT.

AM I CORRECT? YES.

AND OTHER CITIES HAS BEEN BLACKMAILED.

AM I CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND HELD RANSOM? MM HMM. I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO OUR CITY, SO I WANT TO.

I'M THE BIGGEST SUPPORTER OF YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE IF.

IF YOU GO OUT, THE CITY CAN'T OPERATE.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM.

FIRE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND THE CITY HALL WILL HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU GO OUT, IF THE DEPARTMENT SHUTS DOWN. I MEAN, SO THIS IS OUR BIGGEST THREAT.

AND IT'S VERY.

WE GOT PEOPLE INFORMATION.

WHO PAY THEIR UTILITY BILLS.

THAT'S GOT TO BE GUARDED.

WE HAVE TO FUND YOUR DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE STAFF THAT THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT'S NEEDED.

COMPARED TO THE IT DEPARTMENT AND PALM BAY VERSUS PORT SAINT LUCIE.

THEY PROBABLY GOT A BIGGER DEPARTMENT THAN US.

ORLANDO. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE A SMALL CITY OR LARGE CITY, YOU COULD STILL BE HAVE CYBERATTACKS COME TO YOUR CITY.

SO I COMMEND YOU WITH THE WORK.

I'M MORE, YOU KNOW.

WHEN IT COMES TO DISASTERS.

IT'S GOING TO HIT. WE NEED YOU UP AND RUNNING BECAUSE COMMUNICATION COULD SAVE LIVES.

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INFORMATION SAVED LIVES DURING A DISASTER.

SO I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT.

I SAW IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

PLEASE GET THAT UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND KEEP DOING THE OUTSTANDING JOB.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER MENTIONED ABOUT RANSOMS THROUGHOUT OTHER CITIES IN YOUR BUDGET PRIORITIES.

HOW DOES THAT IMPROVE OUR SECURITY? IS IT BASED ON THE FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE OR WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? WHAT ELSE? SO ARE WE MISSING THERE? OH, ALL FOUR ACTUALLY TIES INTO THAT, PRIMARILY THE TELEPHONE SYSTEM.

BUT IF YOU GO FURTHER, DEEPER INTO THAT WOULD BE THE TWO PERSONNEL PORTION OF THAT.

SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT FUNDING FROM THE RPA TO INVEST MORE INTO WHICH IS THE OTHER PRODUCTS.

I WAS SAYING THAT IS GOING TO BE ROLLED IN OUT HERE SHORTLY.

SO WE'VE HAD THAT INVESTMENT.

SO NOW WE NEED TO ADD SOME PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD UP WITH THAT SOFTWARE AND YES, COPY THAT TRACKING.

THAT'S RIGHT. COUNCIL.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO? YES, SIR. BRIAN, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED.

I MEAN, I LOVE THESE ACHIEVEMENTS HERE.

I KNOW THIS PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESS.

IT WASN'T EASY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE.

SAME WITH THE TIME CLOCK AND SNAP.

CALM NOW AND THEN.

THE DISASTER RECOVERY SITE.

I MEAN, IT'S ALL IT'S ALL WELL, WELL DESERVED.

THINGS THAT THIS CITY NEEDS.

ALSO, I DISCUSSED BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND IN THIS CHAMBER IS THAT THE NEW THREAT TO PUBLIC SECURITY, PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT A MAN WITH A GUN OR A KNIFE.

IT'S A MAN WITH A LAPTOP.

YOU AND I HAVE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT IN THE CYBERSECURITY HERE FOR OUR CITY IS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR ME AND I SUPPORT YOU 100% OR WHATEVER YOU NEED, INCLUDING THE STAFF FOR YOUR FOR YOUR CYBERSECURITY ANALYST.

SO JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE YOU ACCOLADES I'M SAVING FOR COUNCILMAN REPORTS, BUT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU NOW, YOU DID CATCH THAT SPOOFING WEBSITE THIS PAST WEEK.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S PROOFING THIS WEBSITE JUST FOR PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT KNOW IS WHERE SOMEONE CREATES A DOMAIN AND MIRRORS THE CITY OF PALM BAY WEBSITE AND THEN IT SAYS IT'S OFFICIALLY PALM BAY WEBSITE AND THEY CAUGHT IT AND THEY DISABLED IT.

SO THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT CONTINUOUS MONITORING THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU, ROB.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON. SO NOW WE'RE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

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ROBERT STYLES FOLLOWED BY PHILLIP COCHRANE.

GOOD EVENING, ROBERTS.

DAY 1796 WHEN BURKE DRIVE.

WHY AM I ALWAYS FIRST? THE FIRST ONE TO FILL OUT THE CARD.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, LISTEN, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT KAMIKAZE INTERSECTION OUTSIDE SUMMERFIELD, WHERE WE'VE HAD FIVE DEATHS IN FIVE YEARS.

AND WE REALLY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GONE FROM DANGEROUS TO TO DEADLY.

I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY THIS MORNING.

MY WIFE AND I, WE STOPPED AT A TRADITIONAL CAFE AND THEN WE'RE HEADING TO THE BEACH.

SO I'M. STOP THAT. COGAN RIGHT THERE.

BAYSIDE BOULEVARD.

THE LIGHT TURNS, PEOPLE PUNCH IT.

I THOUGHT I MAINTAIN TRAFFIC FLOW.

I GET UP TO ALMOST 55 MILES AN HOUR.

PEOPLE WERE STILL GOING BY ME.

I COULDN'T STAND ANYMORE.

I SLOWED DOWN.

ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S GOING TO EXASPERATE THE SITUATION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? AND I PUT IT ON ON ALL OF YOU.

OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ABOUT 630 VEHICLES, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW.

TIMES TWO, WE WENT DOWN AND MADE A TURN ON JUPITER AND THEN YOU HAD THE SCHOOL THERE LINE UP OF CARS GETTING THERE, SO WE HAD TO GO DOWN.

SANFILIPPO IT IS JUST CRAZY AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE AREA IS EXASPERATING THE SITUATION NOW WHEN I HEAR ABOUT DENSITY, TO MY MIND THIS IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

TO ME, THIS IS SUBURBAN CONGESTION.

PEOPLE ARE RIGHT ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.

TEMPERS ARE FLARING.

LOOK AT A TIME THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

I HADN'T SEEN A POLICE OFFICER FIRST.

POLICE OFFICER? ALL I SAW WAS ABOUT A HOSPITAL ON MALABAR.

I KNOW YOU HAVE 20 OPENINGS, 14 PEOPLE.

LAST TIME I HEARD ARE IN THE ALBANY ACADEMY.

AND WHAT HAPPENED? BUT YOU CAN DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THAT AND NOT MONITOR THAT SITUATION WHEN YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO CHANGE IN MY MIND.

IS THIS THE ATTITUDE OF FLORIDA DRIVERS TODAY?

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YOU SEE ANYBODY SLOWING DOWN? VERY FEW. THEY'RE ALL SPEEDING.

THEY'RE ALL HEADING NORTH TO GET ON 95.

AND IT'S CRAZY.

YOU'RE PUTTING AN AREA THAT HAS JUST SINGLE LANES, WHETHER IT'S LOOKING AT MY NOTES HERE, WHERE THEY HAVE EMERSON IS TWO LANES. YOU GOT MALIBU ELDER ON JUPITER.

EVERYBODY'S HAVING A 95.

NOBODY GOES TO WORK TO THE SOUTH ON THE ANYBODY.

YOU GOT ALL THE DEFENSE INDUSTRIES UP NORTH, RIGHT.

AND THEY ARE HAULING.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE STACKING BODIES.

I'M GOING TO EXAGGERATE TO MAKE A POINT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ADDING THIS ON A 90 DEGREE TURN THAT'S INHERENTLY DEADLY, ACCORDING TO THE LAST CHIEF OF POLICE THAT I TALKED TO.

JUST PUTTING A RADAR LIGHT IN THERE IS NOT HELPING.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO KEEP US SAFE? ISN'T THAT ONE OF YOUR PRIMARY FOCUSES? AND I'M LOOKING AT EVERY ONE OF YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO GET OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THIS, PLEASE.

THIS IS NOT A QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. PHILIP COCHRANE, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN B CONNOLLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH ROBERT.

MY NAME IS PHIL CORCORAN.

I WAS AT THE ZONING MEETING LAST NIGHT.

THEY APPROVED TWO MORE SUBDIVISIONS IN THE BAYSIDE LAKES AREA, WHICH IS ONLY GOING TO AGGRAVATE THAT SITUATION.

BUT TONIGHT I CAME TO YOU TO ASK ABOUT A PROCEDURE QUESTION.

THERE'S A ZONING MEETING ON MAY 18TH, WHICH WILL BE CONCERNED WITH JUST THE SUBDIVISION OF THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE.

I WAS TOLD LAST NIGHT THAT CONCERNED CITIZENS WOULD BE GIVEN JUST 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK AT THAT MEETING.

GIVEN THAT COLTER HOMES ENJOY, LLC AND VSC CONSULTING WILL BE ABLE TO TALK AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO.

WE THINK THIS IS PRETTY UNFAIR.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR HOMES HERE, WHERE WE LIVE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT EACH SPEAKER GETS 10 MINUTES.

IF YOU CAN GIVE US APPROVAL TONIGHT, WE CAN LIMIT OUR SPEAKERS AND STRUCTURE OUR PRESENTATION TO MINIMIZE REPETITION.

IF YOU CAN'T GIVE ME THAT LEEWAY, THEN IT'LL BE 3 MINUTES FOR GOD KNOWS HOW MANY PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SUSAN B CONNOLLY, FOLLOWED BY.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND STAFF ALVARO.

ALVARO DE LA FUENTE.

ALVARO. AT THAT POINT.

THEY CARRY ON, MAN.

THANK YOU, SUSAN CONNOLLY.

THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS MENTIONED AT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS ON APRIL 7TH, THE CYPRESS BAY WEST.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEY RECEIVED A $4.9 MILLION CREDIT ON THEIR $9 MILLION IMPACT FEES.

THEY APPEARED FOR A SECOND HEARING ON APRIL 21ST COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEY SHOWED A PICTURE OF THE ROAD THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR A ROAD THAT THEY BUILT.

AND IT LOOKED LIKE THE ROAD WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL.

I WANT TO KNOW IF COUNCIL WITH THIS $4.9 MILLION CREDIT.

DID YOU PURCHASE A ROAD FOR US TAXPAYERS? IS THAT OUR ROAD? IT GOES THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT.

WHO WILL MAINTAIN THAT ROAD? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT GOES ANYWHERE EXCEPT FOR THE USE OF THOSE CITIZENS WHO WILL BE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO. $4.9 MILLION.

IT WAS A CREDIT. THAT'S MONEY THAT WAS SPENT FOR ONE ROAD FOR ONE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER SPENDING $4.9 MILLION TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE GREATEST NEEDS I SEE IN PALM BAY RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS HOUSING FOR CITIZENS.

FOR MANY CITIZENS, A LARGE POPULATION OF CITIZENS WHO WILL EARN LESS IN A YEAR THAN PEOPLE IN MANY OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WILL PAY IN A YEAR FOR THEIR MORTGAGES.

I THINK BY BALANCING ALL TYPES OF HOUSING.

THAT PALM BAY BE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

MADAM, SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT? I BELIEVE SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL A MEETING OR TWO AGO.

YES. SO I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE NUMBERS TO PULL THEM UP.

BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT THE THE ASPECTS OF THAT AGREEMENT WERE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING.

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I THINK IT'S FOUR DIFFERENT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE THINGS LIKE ADDING SIGNALS, ADDING WIDENED TURN LANES AT INTERSECTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE'S ALSO AN EXTENSION OF ONE ROAD.

YOU HAVE THAT UP, JOAN.

I MIGHT HAVE JOAN READ THAT IF YOU'D LIKE IT, MAYOR, BUT THE POINT OF THAT IS WHOSE THE CORRIDOR SHE SHE MADE A MENTION OF.

SO THE TOTAL VALUE, I BELIEVE, OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO LET ME LET ME BACK UP FOR EVERYONE'S KNOWLEDGE.

SO WHEN YOU DEVELOP, YOU HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES AS A DEVELOPER IF YOU DO.

IF YOU MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO INVEST, WHEN IT COMES TO IMPACT FEES, YOU GET IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS SITUATION IS THIS DEVELOPER DEVELOPER WAS RESPONSIBLE TO PAY EITHER PAY IN DIRECTLY PAY IMPACT FEES OR THEY COULD MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY THEN DOESN'T HAVE TO BUILD, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO BUILD AND THE VALUE OF THOSE OVER THEIR CONTRIBUTION, THE REQUIRED PER THE ORDINANCE CONTRIBUTION THEY DO GET IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR THAT IS HOW THE THE STATE LAW AND THE ORDINANCES ARE WRITTEN AND STRUCTURED.

SO IF THAT IF THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT WAS DONE JUST AS WE WOULD DO ANY AGREEMENTS, IF THE REFERENCE WAS ALSO INTERTWINING THE COST OF THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE $9, I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.

I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.

BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT.

SITUATION, I GUESS, IF THAT HELPS YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR ALVARO DE LA FUENTE.

DE LA FUENTE DE LA.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL STAFF.

MY NAME IS SALVADOR PUENTE AND I LIVE IN 1848 LYNBROOK DRIVE.

SO HEATHER JOINER IS CURRENTLY UNDER OBVIOUSLY THE OWNER OF THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.

SHE WENT UNDER CONTRACT WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF BUYING THE PROPERTY.

SHE'S CURRENTLY UNDER LITIGATION WITH UPLAND FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT.

SO AS A SIDE NOTE, AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I IF I'M UNDER LIEN OR LITIGATION, IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS AND A VERY HARD PROCESS FOR ME TO SELL MY PROPERTY.

SO I JUST I'D LIKE TO COMMENT.

WE SHOULD BE PLAYING UNDER EVEN FAIR RULES HERE IF SHE'S UNDER CONTRACT TO SELL HER PROPERTY AND PRIVATE OWNERS CANNOT DO THE SAME.

I JUST REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN WHEN THIS THIS PROCESS IS GOING THROUGH NEXT MONTH.

IN ADDITION BACK TO MY POINT, OBVIOUSLY JOY LLC DID NOT HAVE THE INTENTION TO KEEP THIS GOLF COURSE AS A GOLF COURSE FROM THE GET GO, BEING THAT SHE WON ON THE CONTRACT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER PURCHASING THIS.

AND I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO SPEAK TO PREVIOUS OWNERS OF THE GOLF COURSE AND OTHER OWNERS OF GOLFERS IN THE AREA TO REFUTE THE IRRESPONSIBLE POINT THAT SHE'S MAKING, THAT THE GOLF COURSE DOES NOT MAKE ANY MONEY AND IS UNABLE TO MAKE ANY MONEY.

I THINK THIS IS JUST PURE MISMANAGEMENT.

AND OBVIOUSLY, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH LAND IN THE EAST I'M SORRY, IN THE WEST AND SOUTH OF BAYSIDE LAKES, HUNDREDS OF ACRES TO DEVELOP ON. I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE MAINTAIN THE ONLY GOLF COURSE IN PALM BAY AS A GOLF COURSE, IN ADDITION TO THE MANY OTHER REASONS, SUCH AS TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM ME IN THE FUTURE.

SO JUST TO CONCLUDE, WE WE WE NEED TO FIGHT TO KEEP THE ONLY GOLF COURSE IN PALM BAY, A GOLF COURSE.

BECAUSE ONCE THAT GOES AWAY, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY WILL WILL DECLINE IN COMPARISON TO MELBOURNE AND THE OTHERS.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. CHARLES SOTO, FOLLOWED BY ROGER CARTER.

FOUR ZERO, FOLLOWED BY ROGER CARTER.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SOME OF THE POINTS I'M GOING TO BRING UP WERE JUST TOUCHED ON, TOO, BUT I'M GOING TO BRING THEM UP AGAIN.

AS A PROPERTY OWNER.

WE ALL BOUGHT HERE AT BAYSIDE FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, BUT WE DIDN'T BUY INTO THE ENDLESS PITFALLS WE'VE HAD TO FACE, HOLDING ONTO OUR INVESTMENTS AND THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE.

I KNOW YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

IT'S REAL. WE ALL FEEL IT.

WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, I HAD A VIVID IDEA AS HOW TO THIS WOULD LAY OUT MY LIFE.

BUY YOUR HOME, YOU INVEST IN YOUR HOME, YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR PROPERTY.

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YOU PAY YOUR TAXES.

YOU DO ALL THE RIGHT THINGS.

YOU IMPROVE YOUR PROPERTY.

THERE'S MORE PEOPLE COME INTO THE COMMUNITY.

IT GROWS EXPONENTIALLY.

INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT GROWS EXPONENTIALLY WITH COMPARABLE HOUSING, RECREATION, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WE LACK SEVERELY HERE.

THE FOCUS OF OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT GOLF COURSE REASON BEING IT'S GREEN SPACE.

OUR OUR COMMUNITY WOULD GREATLY PROFIT BY A BUSINESS WELL RUN.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE IN HERE.

YOU DON'T NEED IMPACT FEES.

YOU'LL HAVE THESE PEOPLE COMING IN.

IF YOU BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU PUT IN RESTAURANTS, YOU PUT IN SHOPPING CENTERS, YOU DO THE RIGHT THINGS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS HERE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FAILURES HERE, TOO.

MAJORS IS THE ONLY GREEN SPACE WE HAVE.

WE MADE A CHOICE TO COME HERE.

PEOPLE COME HERE TO PLAY, HAVE LUNCH.

SPEND A DAY.

WITHOUT THE GOLF COURSE, WE LOSE THE VERY PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED HERE.

BUT THE VERY SAME REASON THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE AWAY.

I TALK TO THEM ALL DAY LONG AND THEY'RE NOT THREATENING.

THEY'RE JUST SAYING, I WANT TO LIVE ON A GOLF COURSE.

COMPATIBILITY AND INCLUSION.

BOMBAY HAS NO DRAW, NO ATTRACTION.

IF THIS COURSE GOES COOKIE CUTTER HOMES, TONS OF ASPHALT, CONCRETE, OVERPRICED HOMES AND HUNDREDS OF BIKES, CARS CROWDED INTO WHATEVER BEAUTIFUL TRACK WE HAVE HERE AND KICK OUR RECREATION AND OUR RELAXATIONS THAT OCCURRED.

PLANNING AND ZONING NEEDS TO SEE THIS THROUGH THE EYES OF THE PEOPLE THEY CHOSE TO SERVE.

DEVELOPERS ARE A DIME A DOZEN.

MORE OFTEN THAN NOT LEAVE A TRAIL OF MISFORTUNE AND UNKEPT PROMISES BEHIND THEM.

VOTE NO TO STOP REZONING.

STOP THE MADNESS.

AND BY THE WAY, JUST AS A SMALL POINT, THESE HOUSES ARE ALL GOING UP.

THERE'S 21 FEET BETWEEN THEM.

WHERE IS THE RAIN GOING TO GO? THANK YOU. BARBARA CARTER, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR KEN DELGADO. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY INTENT HERE IS TO GET SORRY.

ROGER CARTER, 520.

WATERMAN LANE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

THE LEGAL ADDRESS OF MY PROPERTY.

LOT 19 POINT WEST STATES FIRST EDITION.

MY INTENT IS TO GET CORRECTIVE ACTION REGARDING THE DRAINAGE ON A RECENTLY DEVELOPED LOT WITH HOUSE LOCATED ADJACENT TO AND IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF MY PROPERTY. THAT PROPERTY'S ADDRESS IS 511 BARBA STREET IN PALM BAY.

THE LEGAL ADDRESS IS PORT MALABA LOT BLOCK THREE A DAY SINCE JUNE OF 21, I HAD BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH CITY REPRESENTATIVE JOANN AGUILAR REGARDING THE ELEVATION OF THE LOT IN QUESTION AND THE ASSOCIATED POTENTIAL FOR RUNOFF ONTO MY PROPERTY.

I WAS TOLD THAT THE GREETING WOULD WOULD ROOT AND YOU OFF FROM THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SIDES AND THEN TO THE FRONT, MAKING THE PROPERTY SELF CONTAINED.

MORE RECENTLY, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE, ATTEMPTING TO OBTAIN A TECHNICAL DRAWING THAT WOULD SHOW APPROPRIATE DRAINAGE PLANS FOR ADJACENT LOTS AT DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.

BUT I WAS NOT ABLE TO LOCATE ANYTHING ON THE GIS WEBSITE TO WHICH I WAS GUIDED.

WE'RE NOT GRADING WAS COMPLETED.

THE SITE LACKED ANY TYPE OF SWALE AT THE REAR THAT WOULD CHANNEL THE WATER TO THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.

I SUBSEQUENTLY HAD A TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEY DONE ON MY PROPERTY.

UH. SHOWING MY ELEVATIONS COMPARED TO THE SURROUNDING ELEVATIONS AS EVIDENCE THAT THE GRADING WAS INADEQUATE.

WHEN THE SURVEY WAS COMPLETED, I CONTACTED THE CITY SURVEYOR, MR. JOE HILL ON JANUARY 13TH AFTER MY MESSAGE AS I WAS UNABLE TO SPEAK WITH HIM.

ON THE 17TH, I LEFT MR. HILL ANOTHER MESSAGE AS I WAS STILL UNABLE TO SPEAK WITH HIM.

AND I DID CONTACT MR. HALE ON JANUARY THE 24TH.

I WAS INFORMED THAT HE HAD A COPY OF THE TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEY OR GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH ME.

MY SUBSEQUENT CALL THREE WEEKS LATER ON FEBRUARY THE 18TH AND AGAIN ON MARCH THE SECOND TO MR.

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HILL FOR AN UPDATE OR BOTH ON RETURN, I CONTACTED THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE MARCH OF 24TH AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY WOULD HAVE MR. HILL RETURNED MY CALL CONCERNING THE MATTER.

PRESENTLY, I HAVE RECEIVED NO UPDATE ON THE ISSUE.

AND RECENT HEAVY RAINFALL HAS INDEED SHOWN THAT THE LOTS LOTS INABILITY A SELF CONTAINMENT OF THE RUNOFF.

I HAVE WILLINGLY INCURRED THE COST, SEVERE COST TO SHOW WHAT IS SELF-EVIDENT.

I'M THEREFORE ASKING COUNSEL'S HELP IN ADDRESSING THE SAID PROPERTIES LACK OF PROPER RUNOFF.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. CARTER, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I HAVE COPIED DOWN YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, AND WE WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU TOMORROW ON THIS.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR SITUATION SPECIFICALLY, BUT I DO APOLOGIZE.

IT'S TAKING YOU SO LONG TO GET A RESOLUTION.

SO ALLOW ME TO LOOK AT THIS AND GET BACK TO YOU TOMORROW.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

CERTAINLY. THANK YOU.

PASTOR KIM DELGADO, FOLLOWED BY SANTA ISABEL.

RIGHT. AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS, I CAN REALLY SAY WE HAVE THE GREATEST CITY.

GREAT PRESENTATIONS.

KEN DELGADO, 154 INCH ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ TOO MUCH ON THE BIBLE TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THE STORY OF GENESIS AND THE SERPENT THAT CAME AND TEMPTED EVE AND SAID BASICALLY THIS.

GOD HAS GIVEN YOU ALL OF THIS, BUT HE WON'T LET YOU HAVE THIS SMALL PORTION.

AND CONTINUE EMPHASIZING WHAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE.

AT THE EXPENSE OF ALL THAT SHE DID HAVE.

AND SHE CONCENTRATED SO MUCH IN ALL THAT.

SHE DIDN'T HAVE THAT REALLY WHAT SHE THOUGHT SHE HAD WAS NOTHING.

AND THAT GOD AND THAT SHE WAS MISSING ALL OF THIS WHEN REALITY, THIS LITTLE AMOUNT WAS A FULL GLASS.

AND THE APPLICATION IS VERY SIMPLE.

SO MANY TIMES WE ACCENTUATE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE AT THE EXPENSE OF ALL THAT WE DO HAVE.

YOU WON'T APPLY IT TO A MARRIAGE.

WE WOULD SAY IT THIS WAY.

WE FORGET ALL THAT WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST MET.

OUR SPOUSES ACCENTUATED WHAT WAS WRONG UNTIL WE THOUGHT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT WE STARTED OUT, WHAT WE STARTED OUT HAVING, WHEN IN REALITY THE SAME PERSON HADN'T CHANGED.

THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED WAS OUR PERSPECTIVE.

WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT THE CITY.

WE CAN ACCENTUATE OUR CITY AND ALL, NOT REALIZING ALL THAT WE DO HAVE AND ACCENTUATE WHAT WE DON'T TO.

TO THE POINT THAT WE THINK WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

WHEN IN REALITY OUR GLASS IS PRETTY MUCH FULL.

WE COULD LOOK AT IT AT AT THE BUDGET, TOO.

WE ACCENTUATE ALL THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO.

WE THINK THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WHEN IN REALITY WE HAVE QUITE A BIT.

BUT JESUS SAID, COME TO ME IF YOU'RE THIRSTY.

AND IN REALITY, WHEN YOU'RE THIRSTY AND YOU COME TO HIM, HE REALLY FIXES OUR PERSPECTIVE AND HE ENDS UP FILLING UP.

WHAT WE THOUGHT WE DIDN'T HAVE UNTIL WE HAVE THE QUALITY LIFE THAT HE REALLY WANTED US TO HAVE.

AND SO HE SAID TO US, COME, IF YOU'RE THIRSTY TO ME AND DRINK.

AND YOU'LL THIRSTS NO MORE.

THAT'S LIFE AND LIFE IN ABUNDANCE.

THANK YOU. YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. SANTA ISABEL.

RIGHT. FOLLOWED BY KATE CONROY.

THAT WAS VERY GOOD, PASTOR.

HI. MY NAME IS SANTA ISABEL.

RIGHT? I AM PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND THE EMPOWERMENT COMMITTEE.

IF YOU LOOK HERE, EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE, THEIR VOTERS AND THEIR CONCERNED CITIZENS, AND THEY CARE ABOUT THE CITY THEY LIVE IN.

SO YOU GUYS ARE SO LUCKY AND GOD GIVEN POWER THAT YOU HAVE, YOU NEED TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR CITY.

SO I AM HERE TODAY ON TWO ITEMS. I'M HERE BECAUSE FOR THE PAST TWO MONTHS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A YOUNG MAN APPOINTED TO TWO OF THE BOARDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OPENINGS FOR.

NAME IS JERRY WILLIAMS. HE'S A GRADUATE OF BETHUNE-COOKMAN UNIVERSITY.

I'M WITH FINANCE AND MUSIC, AND I AM HAVING ISSUES WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, MISS URBAN NOT RESPONDING TO HIS APPLICATION. WHEN THEY FILL OUT THAT APPLICATION, IT SAYS VERY CLEARLY, WHY DO YOU WANT TO SIT ON THIS BOARD?

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YOU FILL THAT OUT AND THAT APPLICATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROCESSED.

I SAT ON THAT BOARD FOR FIVE YEARS.

WHEN I LEFT, I WAS VICE CHAIR AND IT'S VERY HURTFUL TO ME THAT THIS YOUNG MAN IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY HIM AND FOR OUR CITY, AND HE'S NOT ABLE TO GET ON ANY BOARD.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE CHANGING THE AGE LIMIT ON THE YOUTH BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES I WAS GOING TO DISCUSS, BECAUSE AS A 25 YEAR OLD YOUNG MAN WITH A COLLEGE DEGREE, HE SHOULD SIT ON OUR BOARD.

HE HAS A LOT TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

THE ISSUE WITH MISS URBAN.

LAST TIME I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO, I REQUESTED AN AUDIT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND PARKS AND FACILITIES.

THE 400,000 THAT THEY APPROVED THAT IS SITTING ON ON YOUR TABLE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT FORWARD.

I'M VERY CONCERNED.

I WANT TO KNOW WHY THOSE 400,000 ARE GOING TO BE GIVEN BACK TO PARKS AND RECREATION TO FIX AN ISSUE THAT WAS NOT CORRECTED AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

MISTAKES NEED TO BE PAID BY SOMEBODY ELSE, NOT BY THAT MONEY THAT'S THERE FOR OUR CITY AND OUR PEOPLE THAT NEED THINGS DONE.

EXAMPLE THE PROGRAM, EXAMPLE COVERAGE FOR THE PARKS, FOR THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE THE PARKS THEMSELVES.

THERE'S NO COVERAGE.

THEY CAN'T USE IT. IT'S TOO HOT.

IT'S 100 DEGREES OUT THERE.

WHOEVER MANAGED THIS DOES NOT THINK ABOUT KIDS IN THEIR NEEDS.

AND THAT NEEDS TO STOP.

I'M I'M RUNNING SHORT ON TIME, BUT I FILLED OUT TWO CARDS.

I PLEASE.

I'M ASKING YOU TO NOT DISPERSE THOSE 400,002ND REQUEST FOR AN AUDIT ON THOSE TWO PARKS ORGANIZATIONS, PARKS AND RECS AND PARKS AND FACILITIES.

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT.

I'VE ASKED MR. URBAN.

I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR THE 5000 THAT WERE PUT ASIDE FOR THE POW PROGRAM FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN I SAT ON THAT BOARD THAT IS MISSING.

SO I NEED TO KNOW IF AN AUDIT HAS BEEN DONE.

I NEED TO KNOW THAT AUDIT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS CITIZENS HAVE RIGHTS TO SEE THOSE AUDITS, BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING AND WHERE HAS BEEN ALLOCATED BECAUSE 400,000 ADDITIONAL TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE THAT SOMEBODY DID.

I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND I'M SURE NOBODY HERE WANTS TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND IN THE END, IT IS OUR MONEY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

I'M SURE YOU WANT TO DISCUSS SOMETHING REGARDING THOSE COMMENTS.

SO THERE WERE A FEW ITEMS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO TAKE A MOMENT, I WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THE LIST A LITTLE BIT.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, MY UNDERSTANDING WITH, UH, MR. JERRY WILLIAMS IS THAT STAFF WAS WORKING ON A CHANGE TO THE DEFINITION OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL, WHICH IS.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW FOR THE USE OF THE FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT FUNDS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF DISCOVERED AND HAS BEEN WORKING ON IS CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL TO MATCH FROM CITY CODE TO OUR OUR ACTION PLAN.

AND THEY'RE WORKING ON FIXING THAT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT ALREADY WENT TO CDB OR IS GOING TO CDB, I BELIEVE, AND THEN IT WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL TO CORRECT THAT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO UPDATE BASICALLY IN OUR RULES TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS ELIGIBLE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, BASED ON HOW IT CURRENTLY READS, HE'S NOT ELIGIBLE.

BUT WE DO WANT HIM TO BE ELIGIBLE IS IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I GOT IT. I GOT IT.

NOW, POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE.

CARRY ON, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. ADDITIONALLY, REGARDING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT AUDITING THE CDBG PROGRAMS, WE WOULD HAVE TO I WILL REACH OUT TO MRS. WRIGHT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR.

SO ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE AUDITED FINANCIALLY EVERY YEAR.

THE WAY THAT COUNCIL SPENDS THOSE FUNDS AFTER THE APPROVAL FROM CDA BY OUR ADVISORY BOARD, ALL OF THAT IS GOVERNED BY EITHER STATE OR FEDERAL RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. SO THE USES OF CDBG ARE THERE ARE MAXIMUM PERCENTAGES OF HOW WE CAN SPEND THOSE DOLLARS.

AND CERTAINLY I HAVE STAFF HERE WHO CAN GO AND GIVE LENGTHY PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL IF YOU IF YOU DESIRE TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS.

BUT THE QUICK SUMMARY IS, AS AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF 10% THAT YOU CAN SPEND OUT OF CDBG.

FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF 20% OF THE FUNDING THAT YOU CAN USE FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.

AND THEN THE BALANCE IS USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH CAN BE THINGS LIKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

SO THE SENIOR CENTER IS AN ELIGIBLE USE OF CDBG FUNDS.

IT IS IS ABSOLUTELY ELIGIBLE USE OF THOSE FUNDS TO RENOVATE SOMETHING THAT IS IN EXISTING THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

THAT IS WITHIN THE THE INCOME TRACKS THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO USE THAT FUNDING IN.

SO I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO MEET WITH MRS. WRIGHT AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HER CONCERNS.

BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS WE WE FOLLOW THE PROCESSES, WE GET OUR PROGRAMS AUDITED EVERY YEAR.

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SO I'M I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH HER AND WORK THROUGH THAT.

ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND ALSO OUR PART COVERS COVERED IN THE CDBG AS WELL.

YES, SIR. SO THAT.

SO THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE BRING FORWARD AS A CITY TO USE CDBG FUNDS FOR IMPROVEMENTS, WE TYPICALLY PRIORITIZE THINGS THAT ARE GREATER NEEDS.

SO AN EXAMPLE FOR US HAS BEEN THE SENIOR CENTER BUILDING NEED A LOT OF RENOVATIONS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS, OLDER RESIDENTS WHO ARE USING THAT FACILITY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FIRST ROUND OF CDBG FUNDING WAS USED TO MAKE THAT BUILDING ADA ACCESSIBLE.

IT WAS OLDER. THE BATHROOMS WERE NOT SET UP WELL FOR THOSE THOSE WHO NEEDED ACCOMMODATION.

WE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING, THE ABILITY OF FOLKS TO FLOW SAFELY THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE SENIOR CENTER.

THIS NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING, THAT'S ONE OF YOUR CONSENT ITEMS TONIGHT.

THE MAIN FOCUS IS ACTUALLY IMPROVING THE OR REMOVING AND CHANGING OUT ALL OF THE VERY OLD AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS. AND THAT'S PART OF THE QUALITY OF THE FACILITY FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING IT TO HAVE QUALITY CLEAN AIR GOING ON IN THE BUILDING AS THEY DO THEIR ACTIVITY. SO ALLOWABLE USES IMPORTANT APPLICATIONS.

FROM OUR STANDPOINT, THE REASON WE WOULD NOT PUT IN FOR A CDBG APPLICATION, FOR EXAMPLE FOR THE COVERS FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS IS THAT WOULD ON MY PRIORITY LIST AND ON STAFF'S PRIORITY LIST BE A A SECONDARY ITEM TO SOMETHING THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE IN A BUILDING THAT IS ACTIVELY USED. THE SHADE STRUCTURES ARE IMPORTANT I THINK AND NICE TO HAVE HISTORICALLY THOUGH THE CITY IS NOT BUDGETED THAT AS A REOCCURRING CAPITAL ITEM.

AND SO MY ONE OF MY GOALS AND I WROTE THIS DOWN LAST TIME WHEN MRS. WRIGHT SPOKE WAS I ASKED STAFF TO PUT ON OUR CAPITALS TO MAKE SURE IT'S THERE.

THE REQUEST TO FUND PLAYGROUND SHADE STRUCTURES, AS YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE A LIST THAT WILL BE ON OUR LIST OF MANY CAPITAL ITEMS, WHICH IS A LOT OF VEHICLES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE MAY DEEM TO BE MORE IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME BASED ON COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES.

BUT THAT WILL BE ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS LIST FOR THIS YEAR.

ONE MORE THING. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I ALSO AND I GUESS IT WILL BE UP TO COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN AS WELL.

I'M NOT SAYING NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, HERE WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING THAT CAN PROVIDE FOR PARK COVERS OR, YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND FUNDING TO PROVIDE FOR PARK COVERS.

SO I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE LINE, I'M NOT SAYING RIGHT NOW, BUT DOWN THE LINE I WOULD THINK IT'LL BE EASIER FOR THE GRANT FUNDING TO DO SO IF THEY'RE IN AN ELIGIBLE IF.

YEAH. IF IT'S AN ELIGIBLE AREA.

CORRECT. AND THEN TO MS..

MRS. WRIGHT'S POINT, THE GENTLEMAN, MR. WILLIAMS, HE WAS TRYING TO APPLY FOR THE LOW INCOME, LOW INCOME CATEGORY, AND HE PUT IN WHAT HE NEEDED, BUT THEN GOT RESPONSE BACK BECAUSE HE REACHED OUT TO ME.

BUT I SEND IT BACK OUT LIKE WORK WITH STAFF AND GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

HE PUT IN HIS INFORMATION, BUT THEN STILL WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO HE WAS CONFUSED BY THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS.

REACH OUT TO HIM IF HE NEEDS CLARIFICATION.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS LAST MEETING REGARDING THE SHADES FOR THE PARKS AND AND I KIND OF ECHO THAT AS THAT I HAVE TEN GRANDCHILDREN AND SEVERAL OF THEM USE THE FACILITIES.

SO, YES, SIR, I KNOW.

WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AT LENGTH FURTHER.

SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

ALL RIGHT. KATE CONROY, FOLLOWED BY FLORIDA HOLBERT.

FLORIDA HOLBERT.

HERE, FLORIDA HOLBERT.

TWO, THREE, TWO, TWO.

PLAN TO RICH CAUGHT SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

I'M A PART OF THE GROUP AGAINST THE REZONING.

THAT'S NOT WHY I'M UP HERE.

ON EMERSON OR IT'S NOT EXACTLY ON EMERSON.

THERE IS A FLAG THAT USUALLY FLIES AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

FOR A FEW DAYS, AND I WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT.

AND IF THEY KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT, WILL IT BE REPLACED IF IT'S MISSING? SO I KNOW THIS IS A SIDELINE.

IT PROBABLY HAS NOTHING. NO ONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN IT.

BUT I LIKE SEEING THAT FLAG AND IT'S NOT THERE.

SO DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? I DO KNOW I RECEIVED COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT BEING FRAYED, SO I'D RATHER IT NOT BE FLOWN IF IT'S BEING FLOWN AS AFRAID TO FLAG.

BUT I DON'T KNOW.

I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THAT.

THAT BIG TOWER.

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IF IT'S THE SAME ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S RIGHT ON EMERSON.

NEAR THE PARK.

CORRECT, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PARK, BUT IT'S ON THE EMERSON.

ON EMERSON. IT WAS A HUGE FLAG.

DO WE KNOW WHO OWNS THAT? MADAM SHERMAN. THAT.

THAT BIG TOWER? NOT OFFHAND, SIR, BUT I'M SURE WE COULD FIND OUT.

AND THEY'VE. THEY'VE OVER.

OVER THE YEARS, WHEN THE FLAG HAS SHOWN SIGNS OF WEAR AND IT'S BEEN REPORTED TO THEM, THEY HAVE GONE AND ACTUALLY TAKEN IT DOWN AND THEN PUT A NEW ONE BACK UP.

SO I'M GUESSING THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FIND IS A REALLY LARGE FLAG.

SO MAYBE THEY HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

OH, OKAY. TO HAVE IT REPLACED? I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DO KNOW.

I'M WITH YOU, MA'AM. I LOVE TO SEE A LARGE GARRISON FLAG FLYING REPRESENTING OUR NATION.

SO THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME AND LISTENING.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.

LOVE YOUR PATRIOTISM, MA'AM.

SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE ARE ON ITEM TWO, AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MS..

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

JACOBS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ITEMS NUMBERED TWO, FOUR AND SIX ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNSEL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

COUNCILS SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION.

AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE ITS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF'S COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY OR OTHER PERSON.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED TO NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF THE DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

ANYWHERE. BEGINNING WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.

RESOLUTION 2020 220 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RETAIL, AUTOMOTIVE, GAS, FUEL SALES AND A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH A DRIVE THRU END CAP IN CC.

COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BABCOCK STREET AND VICTORIA ROAD AND LEGALLY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDING FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STATE THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CARMINE FERRARO.

CROSSOVER COMMERCIAL GROUP 3860 CURTIS BOULEVARD, PORT SAID JOHN, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TONIGHT.

WE ARE REQUESTING THE CUP WE HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD APPROVED YOU CUP.

AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN WE WENT TO THE SITE PLAN PROCESS WITH STAFF, THE MAJOR OIL USER FOR THE GASOLINE SIDE OF THE GAS CONVENIENCE STORE CHANGE REQUIRED US TO COME BACK IN, CHANGE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE PLAN WHICH THEN REQUIRED US TO COME BACK IN AND RE APPLY FOR A NEW CUP.

SO I'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND MAKE CLOSING COMMENTS OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU. THE SPEAKER CARDS.

SHERMAN YOU WANT TO ADD ANY STAFF COMMENTS? NOTHING FURTHER OTHER THAN WHAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS? THAT OF STAFF COUNCIL.

NO SPEAKER CARDS. DEPUTY MAYOR.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE KQ DASH NINE DASH 2022 TO INCLUDE STAFF'S COMMENTS AND THE STAFF REPORT.

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SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEE, AND NONE ALL IN FAVOR BY ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ORDINANCE 2022 DASH 49 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.1 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

WHEN I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASK THE APPLICANT TO STATE THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS RIK PREBBLE, THE APPLICANT.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING IN SHORT, BECAUSE I HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY ON TURKEY CREEK.

I'VE SPENT THE LAST YEAR EXAMINING ITS EXISTING LAND USES, ALSO TRYING TO IMPROVE THE LANDSCAPE, TRYING TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THIS PROPERTY. AND I ESSENTIALLY JUST WANT TO ENJOY IT AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ON TURKEY CREEK, JUST LIKE MY NEIGHBORS.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I COULD ANSWER FOR YOU AT THIS TIME OR.

WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS.

NOT AT THIS TIME, SIR.

LET'S SEE. BUT I WILL SAY FOR THIS ITEM OF SPEAKER CARTER IS NOT NEEDED.

BUT I'LL CALL UP OLLIE JOHNSON FIRST.

HMM. HELLO.

MY NAME IS OLLIE JOHNSON AND THE.

HE ONLY WANTS TO USE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL AREA.

BUT AT THE AT THE P AND Z MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHEN HE WAS TURNED DOWN BY THE P AND Z OR TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING, HE WAS HE HAD TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A.

CANOE AND KAYAK, LAUNCH A BED AND BREAKFAST AND TWO RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ON IT.

AND NOW HE'S NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT HE JUST WANTS TO LIVE THERE.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT HE CAN'T LIVE THERE.

WHAT MY MY POINT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, TURKEY CREEK IS ONE OF THE VESTIGES OF OLD FLORIDA THAT'S STILL HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TURKEY CREEK IS VITAL.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN HIS HIS IDEA OF DEVELOPING IT WITH A CANOE AND KAYAK LAUNCH, YOU KNOW, THE THE THE THE TURKEY CREEK IS ONLY THREE MILES LONG GOING FROM THE LAGOON OUT TO UP TO THE THE DAM IN TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY.

AND ON THAT ON THAT THREE MILES OF OF A CREEK, THERE ARE FOUR PUBLIC LAUNCHES, FOUR CANOES AND KAYAK AND ONE PRIVATE ONE CASTAWAYS POINTE POLLACK PARK, GOOD PARK.

AND THERE'S ONE UP IN THE IN THE SANCTUARY NOW AND ALSO THE PADDLING PARADISE, WHICH IS DONE IN THE PALM BAY MARINA.

AND YOU KNOW, I SPOKE AT THE P AND Z MEETING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING THIS LAND.

THERE'S THAT MUCH GREEN SPACE ON TURKEY CREEK ANYMORE.

AND IN THE BAD OLD DAYS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD BUILD RIGHT UP TO THE CREEK AND RIGHT ONTO THE CREEK AND.

WE WANT TO STOP THAT NOW.

WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE A FLOOD, A FLOOD CONSERVATION AREA TO A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA AND CERTAINLY NOT A BED AND BREAKFAST. ALSO, I THINK THAT YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL HERE IN PALM BAY SHOULD BE AWARE THAT HE HAS CLEARED 300 FEET OF OF CREEK CREEK FRONT, THAT IT'S NOT HIS HE OWNS A SMALL PORTION OF OF THE LAND THAT WAS CLEARED.

AND WHEN HE FIRST STARTED THE CLEARING, IT HE DIDN'T PUT UP ANY KIND OF SILT, DAMS OR ANY ANY ANY BARRIERS TO KEEP SEDIMENT FROM FLOWING INTO THE CREEK AND EVENTUALLY INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS IN TROUBLE.

SO WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT ON RIGHT ON THE CREEK AND CERTAINLY NOT IRRESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

NOW HE HAS HE IS CLEARED OUT 300 FEET.

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THAT'S A FOOTBALL FIELD ALONG TURKEY CREEK, A CITY PROPERTY THAT'S CITY PROPERTY, NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. PNC TURNED HIM DOWN.

THANK YOU. KAREN LUDEMAN, FOLLOWED BY DAN SMITH.

GOOD EVENING. I'M KAREN LUDEMAN AND I LIVE AT 911 SUN SWEPT.

I LIVE JUST NORTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

I AGREE WITH HOLLY.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LAND, VERY UNIQUE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE REZONING.

THIS IS THE FLOOD MAP THAT THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY.

HIS LAND IS ON THE LEFT OF THE WHITE LINE.

WHAT'S SHOWN IN LIGHT GREEN IS FLOOD ZONE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THIS LAND IS WETLANDS AND FLOOD ZONE.

IT'S OUR FLOODWAY.

SO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE LIVED THERE, IT FLOODS A LOT.

IT'S WETLAND.

WE NEED IT TO REMAIN FLOOD LANDS.

THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO REZONE IT BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY GOT A HOUSE THAT'S RESIDENTIAL HE CAN LIVE IN.

THAT'S THERE. WE WANT TO PROTECT THE LAND THAT'S AROUND IT.

THERE'S A THIN STRIP AT THE TOP THERE AND ON THE EAST SIDE AND ON THE EAST SIDE, HE HAS CLEARED A LARGE PIECE OF LAND.

AND THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT US FROM.

ALL THE NOISE FROM PORT MALABAR.

ON THE ZONING MEETING, HE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A VENUE OR RESORT THERE, A WEDDING VENUE SPECIFICALLY.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THE NOISE IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN.

OH, I WENT THE WRONG WAY.

SO WHY SHOULD YOU OPPOSE? THERE'S REALLY THREE PRIMARY REASONS.

ONE, THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT.

WE HAVE MORE PETITIONS THAN THAT NOW.

SO THERE'S 199 PEOPLE WHO'VE SIGNED A PETITION OPPOSING THIS REZONING.

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, THE FLOODING, THE WILDLIFE, THE LACK OF GREEN SPACE TO IT'S IN CONFLICT WITH THE CITY'S OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE.

THIS IS A FLOODWAY.

IT NEEDS TO STAY A FLOODWAY.

THREE, IT DISPLACES PROTECTED WILDLIFE.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WILDLIFE ON THIS LAND, AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE GREEN SPACE FOR THAT WILDLIFE.

THIS JUST SHOWS THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THE LEFT.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NOT MUCH GREEN THERE.

ON THE RIGHT IS A BLOW UP OF THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE LAND AROUND.

IT IS GREEN.

IT'S CONSERVATION LAND.

SO IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE TO CHANGE THAT TO RESIDENTIAL HAS A TURKEY CREEK PRESERVE AND IT HAS THE CITY WETLANDS AROUND IT.

JUST SOME PICTURES TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT DID LOOK LIKE BEFORE IT WAS CLEARED AND DURING THE CLEARING.

YOU CAN SEE SIGNIFICANT EROSION NOW COMPLETELY CLEARED.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 2008.

THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE FLOODING.

THIS IS OUR STREET.

MY KIDS WERE KAYAKING DOWN THE STREET.

WE DO NEED THE FLOODWAY.

AND JUST WHAT'S BEEN DONE THERE.

SO THERE'S A BOAT RAMP NOW.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. BEN SMITH.

HI, I'M DAN SMITH FROM PADDLING PARADISE.

I THINK.

THE THE PLANS, THE IDEAS THAT I SAW WITH THIS PROJECT LOOKED GOOD.

A FROM A PADDLEBOARDING KAYAKING STANDPOINT, I THINK IT LOOKED GOOD AS LONG AS THERE'S NOTHING BEING BUILT DIRECTLY ON THE WATER.

I THINK FROM WHAT I SAW AND I TRAVEL THERE OFTEN, THERE WAS A LOT OF BRAZILIAN.

PEPPER TREES THAT WERE.

GONE. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING.

I THINK WE CANNOT.

OOF! TOO MANY OF THOSE OUT OF HERE.

WE NEED ALL OF THOSE GONE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I SAW.

A LOT OF THAT WAS MISSING.

THAT WAS GONE. THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY.

AND I THINK MORE OF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE.

NATURAL TREES BEING BROUGHT BACK INTO THAT AREA.

NO BUILDING GOING ON RIGHT ALONG TURKEY CREEK.

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THE AREA THAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WAS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OFF.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

DEPENDING ON WHAT THE EXACT PLAN IS GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. ALVIN AND ANGELA.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ASYLUM.

STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.

ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A.

HARD A COMMON CARD.

SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST DOES COMPARE IN THE TWO DIFFERENT ORDINANCES YOU'RE BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT.

I SEE THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

ONE OF THEM IS RURAL, SINGLE FAMILY, AND THE OTHER ONE IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

ONE OF THEM IS RURAL SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH IS ONE HOUSE PER FIVE ACRES.

AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK TO THE NEXT ONE, ORDINANCE 20 TO 50, IT'S RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS ONE HOUSE PER ACRE.

SO YOU'RE IN YOU'RE INCONGRUENT OF WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT REQUESTS.

BUT THAT BEING SAID.

YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF SAVING THE GREEN THAT WE HAVE NATURE LOVER TYPE, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS ONE IS A FLOODWAY CONSERVATION DISTRICT ALREADY.

WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY.

GOING OFF OF THAT DESIGNATION AND BRINGING IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO WORK AT THE WATERFRONT BEFORE THEY GET PROPER AUTHORIZATION.

AND I'D LIKE, IF POSSIBLE, IF THAT COULD BE PRESENTED FROM THE FROM THE COUNSEL TO THE PUBLIC, WOULD KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY THE CITY HAD TO DO IN THIS CASE.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL LISTENS TO WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDATION WAS.

AND THERE AND YOU KNOW, YOUR P AND Z, THEY'RE FOR BUSINESS, BUT THEY'RE NOT FOR DESTRUCTION OF THE NATURAL GREENWAYS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IN ANSWER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? YES. THANK YOU.

I HAVE SOME PICTURES I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU TO BRING CLARITY TO THE WORK I DID.

CAN I BRING THIS FORTH TO.

IS THERE A TELEPROMPTER THAT COULD ALSO PUT IT ON THE SCREEN? WE DON'T HAVE A TELEPROMPTER.

YOU. THE CITY ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES THE REMOVAL OF BRAZILIAN PEPPERS.

IT'S IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THAT'S WHY I PROCEEDED.

THIS IS AN UNDEVELOPED, VACANT LAND THAT HAS BEEN UNKEPT FOR DECADES.

THE FIRST PICTURE SHOWS YOU WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY A YEAR AGO.

PICTURE TO SHOWS YOU MY EFFORTS AND PRESSURE CLEANING THE BRIDGE.

SODDING YOU CAN SEE THE UNKEMPT NATURE OF IT.

PAGE FOUR SHOWS THE RESULT OF THE EFFORTS MADE TO CLEAN THE AREA AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AFTER THE PEPPERS.

OF COURSE IT WAS WINTER, SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOT LEAVES ON THE TREES.

FIVE. IT SHOWS YOU MY.

A NEW LITTLE RIVER CRUISE BOAT I ACTUALLY WANT TO PARK IT IN.

THIS APPROVAL WOULD ALLOW ME TO HAVE A DOCK AND ENJOY THE PROPERTY LIKE MY NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET.

PICTURE SIX WAS FROM A DRONE IN THESE SHOTS ON THESE REMAINING PICTURES WERE OF TODAY.

THERE WAS A AREA THAT I DID CLEAR AND IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO SAY CLEAR.

I ONLY TOOK OUT BRAZILIAN PEPPERS.

THAT WAS WITH THE CONSENT OF SOUTH.

ST JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN THE CITY CAN VERIFY THAT MY WORK WAS INVESTIGATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE A COMPLIANCE LETTER TO THE EFFECT ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I AM HAPPY TO HEAR IT.

THERE SHOULD BE A MOVEMENT, IN MY OPINION, OF DOING MORE LANDSCAPING AND BEAUTIFYING AND REMOVING BRAZILIAN PEPPERS.

BECAUSE NOW WHAT I WHAT WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IS REALLY RESCUING A SLEW OF NATIVE SPECIES OF TREES.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF MAPLES AND OAKS NOW THAT ARE THRIVING AND THAT ARE GREEN.

AND IT'S I GET COMPLIMENTS ALL THE TIME OF PEOPLE PASSING BY.

YES. PLANNING AND ZONING DID REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THIS APPLICATION? ALTHOUGH THERE WAS ONE SUPPORTING VOTE FROM THE PERSON WHO CHAIRED THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR PLANNING FOR THE CITY SUPPORTS THIS APPLICATION. NOW, I'VE SPENT THE LAST YEAR REALLY LOOKING INTO THIS AND UNDERSTANDING THE MEANING OF FLOODWAY CONSERVATION.

THAT'S JUST THE NAME OF A ZONING THAT YOU DO HAVE AND EVERYTHING NEEDS TO HAVE A ZONING.

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BUT THERE ARE FOUR COMPELLING REASONS WHY THIS CONSERVATION ZONE PROPERTY IS UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER FLOODWAY CONSERVATION ZONE PROPERTY IN THE AREA WHICH DOES SURROUND MY PROPERTY.

THE FIRST DIFFERENCE IS THAT THIS IS PRIVATELY OWNED.

THIS IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY LIKE ALL THE OTHERS.

SECOND, THIS IS NOT UNDER A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WHICH ALL THE OTHER CITY PROPERTIES.

NOT ONLY IS IT ZONED FLOODWAY CONSERVATION, BUT IT'S UNDER A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT SOUTH THE ST JOHN'S MANAGES.

THIRDLY. THERE'S ACTUALLY A FAIR AMOUNT OF UP LAND DOWN BY THE CREEK THAT BELONGS TO MY PROPERTY NOW.

ALL OTHER FLOODWAY CONSERVATION ZONE PROPERTIES ARE ACTUAL WETLANDS.

IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE AN UPLAND PROPERTY BE ZONED FLOODWAY CONSERVATION.

I LEARNED THAT FROM LARRY BRADLEY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, SO IT'S INCONSISTENT.

AND THE FOURTH COMPELLING REASON, IF YOU REALLY, AS I'VE LEARNED, WHAT THE MEANING OF THIS FLOODWAY CONSERVATION IS FOR YOU WANT TO PRESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WATER MOVE IN WHATEVER DIRECTION.

AND IN THIS CASE, THERE'S A UNIQUE FEATURE, WHICH IS THE PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD BRIDGE, WHICH I'M ADJACENT TO.

IT'S A LARGE CONCRETE STRUCTURE.

WATER WILL ALWAYS BE FORCED IN THE DIRECTION OF THAT BRIDGE.

THIS FLOODWAY CONSERVATION WILL ALWAYS BE CONSERVED BY THAT BRIDGE.

MY PARCEL, WHICH IS PRIVATELY OWNED NEXT TO IT, WILL HAVE NO EFFECT ON WHETHER OR NOT THE FLOODWAY WILL BE CONSERVED.

WATER. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO WATER WHAT THE ZONING IS.

IT RISES AND IT LEVELS OFF AND IT IT IT DOES ITS THING.

THE BRIDGE, OF COURSE, DIRECTS IT.

I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION AGAIN TO.

LET'S SEE, PAGE.

PAGE EIGHT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE EIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTY OF MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT 70 FEET, APPROXIMATELY FROM MY PROPERTY.

AND WHEN I LOOK DO YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AS FAR AS WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE AS IT RELATES TO THOSE HOMES ON THE WATER? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT EITHER.

AND ALL I'M ASKING IS TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY FOR A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

A COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER ABOUT MY LONG TERM PLANS OR HOPE.

MY FIRST GOAL IS TO ENJOY THIS PROPERTY PERSONALLY AND FOR MY FAMILY.

A CLOSE SECOND IS TO SHARE IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

IN THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THERE ARE CONDITIONAL USES.

I MADE THE MISTAKE OF SPEAKING ON THOSE ISSUES AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PADDLING BOARD OR THE KAYAK LAUNCH POINT AND THE BED AND BREAKFAST, BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION WHATSOEVER.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I SHOULD NEVER HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.

AND IT OPENED UP A CAN OF WORMS AND I CAUGHT A LOT OF GRIEF OVER IT.

THIS APPLICATION IS JUST TO KEEP IT AS OR TO CHANGE IT TO A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

AND SO I CAN ENJOY IT PERSONALLY IN THE FUTURE.

IF I COME TO YOU WITH A CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST, THEN THERE WILL BE A SPIRITED DEBATE TO DISCUSS THAT AT THAT TIME.

I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT EVEN IF I DIDN'T MAKE THIS REQUEST, FLOODWAY CONSERVATION ACTUALLY HAS USES WHICH UNDER CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

FLOODWAY CONSERVATION ALLOWS FOR BOARDWALKS, IT ALLOWS FOR DOCKS, IT ALLOWS FOR BOAT RAMPS, IT ALLOWS FOR PUBLIC USES.

THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL ALLOWS ME AS A PRIVATE LANDOWNER TO ACT TO TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR A DOG, BY YOU ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP MY PROPERTY FOR SINGLE FAMILY PURPOSE.

YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING THE MEASURES IN PLACE FOR PROTECTING OUR TURKEY CREEK IN THE HANDS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION OR ST JOHN'S.

THAT STILL ALWAYS EXISTS.

AND THAT'S WHY THE PROTECTION OF THIS FLOODWAY WILL ALWAYS EXIST, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ZONING THIS ACTUALLY IS.

I THINK THAT'S WHY STAFF ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THIS APPLICATION.

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AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF THAT.

AND I WISHED I HAD DISCUSSED THE COMPELLING DIFFERENCES AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH I DIDN'T DO.

I HAD THIS LAST FEW WEEKS, MONTHS TO TO THINK ABOUT THIS, SINCE THERE WAS A AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT THIS APPLICATION.

HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK THIS IS A FEAR AND A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR THE CITY, AND I HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON? YES, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. SO.

SO IF YOU CAN GO BACK FOR ME, WHAT MADE YOU CHOOSE REZONING? OPPOSED TO YOU JUST SAID CONDITIONAL USE FOR A HOUSE.

ARE YOU ASKING ME WHY I'M ONE THREE ZONING IF THE CONDITIONAL USES WERE THERE? UNLESS I MISS HER. NO, NO.

ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A SINGLE HOUSE AND NOT RESOLVED.

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT.

IF IT WAS A PUBLICLY OWNED PROPERTY.

I COULD REQUEST THAT IF IT WAS A PWD, I CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT I HAVE TO CHANGE IT TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL IF I WANT TO ENJOY THIS PRIVATELY AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

STAFF. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION OR IS IT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE ALEX BERNARD, OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT.

I AM NOT CERTAIN IF THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING ALLOWS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RESIDENTIAL.

HI. ALEX BERNARD GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

SO THE EXISTING ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AS IT SITS TODAY.

IT'S AN INSTITUTIONAL USE AND IT ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN THINGS LIKE CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS NOT ONE OF THOSE USES.

WHEN HE SAYS THAT HE WANTS TO ENJOY AND I LIKE MAYBE A KAYAKING LAUNCH OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY HE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT INSTEAD OF CHANGING THE ZONING? WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.

I MEAN, MR. PREBLE PRESENTED HIS CASE TO US AND IT MET ALL OF THE PARAMETERS, WHICH IS WHY IT WENT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND IS WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT.

SO. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NO, NO, I'M GOOD, MAYOR.

I HAVE CONCERNS, BUT I REALLY JUST DON'T SEE IT.

I SEE THE ZONING BEING ADEQUATE AS THE WAY IT IS, BUT THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.

WELL, DEPUTY MAYOR, I WAS GOING I THINK WHAT YOU'RE.

BECAUSE THE APPLICANT SAYING HE WANTS TO ENJOY BUT I'M THINKING HE CAN ENJOY WITHOUT BUILDING BUILDING A HOME.

RIGHT SO THAT THAT'S MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THAT MAYBE IF HE WANTS TO ENJOY AND AND SET UP HERE OR KEEP IT IN THAT AVENUE OF ENJOYMENT, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP A LAUNCH IS, IS WHERE I WAS GOING.

NOT THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD WOULD AGREE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

CAN HE PUT A IS THERE A PROCESS FOR HIM TO PUT A PIER, SO TO SPEAK? I'M GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.

I'M READING THE INSTITUTIONAL USE DISTRICT ZONING.

I HAVE IT PULLED UP HERE.

THANKS TO JOAN. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL OF THE USES ARE EITHER PUBLIC PURPOSE, LIKE A PUBLIC PARK, FOR EXAMPLE.

CHURCHES, HISTORIC SITES.

EVEN COMMUNICATION TOWERS AND FACILITIES.

THE ONLY CONDITIONAL USES ARE PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

NONPROFIT TYPE USES, SOME HOSPITAL, NURSING HOMES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I DON'T SEE ANY USE CURRENTLY THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR EVEN WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK THROUGH THAT.

AS A SEPARATE ITEM TO WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD, MA'AM.

SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THINGS OUT OF THE BOX, YOU KNOW, SO COUNCIL.

WELL, DID YOU? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. QUESTION.

GO AHEAD, MAYOR.

NO, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE I DO HAVE A QUESTION. ANY DOCUMENTATION? STAFF DID YOU RECEIVE ANY DOCUMENTATION REGARDING THE ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT AND APPROVAL OF THE CLEARING AND ALSO A.

STAFF FOR THAT. YES.

SO WE DID HAVE THE LETTER WAS PROVIDED THAT HE HAD BEEN CLEARED BY AP AND HE PROVIDED A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS WHEN HE SUBMITTED FOR HIS APPLICATION.

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AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.

ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT WAS I BELIEVE IT WAS FDP.

I DON'T I DON'T RECALL IF I DIDN'T SEE WHAT ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT AND THE APPLICATION I DID IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO GO IN AND SAY THAT THERE WAS NOT PROBABLY NOT THEN BECAUSE THE APPLICANT STATE STARTED PLANNING HIS ONLY MEETING THAT HE DID HAVE ONE.

AND HE ALSO SAYS HE SPOKE WITH THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE HERE DO SEE SOME MISC PEOPLE IN HERE THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

I MEAN, THE FLORIDA CONSERVATION DISTRICT, I MEAN, WE HAVE IT.

WHY DO WE HAVE IT AND WHY DO WE NEED TO PROTECT IT? I MEAN, BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT'S COMING UP NOW IS HURRICANE SEASON AND ALSO THE HUNDRED YEAR STORM SURGE.

SO THIS IS TO PROTECT PEOPLE IN THE PROPERTY BY REDUCING THE VULNERABILITY TO FUTURE FLOOD RISK, WHICH SUN SWEPT IS KNOWN FOR THAT TO SAVE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

AS EVERY TIME THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCES A FLOOD DISASTER, LOCAL BUDGETS ARE IMPACTED AND ALSO TO AVOID LIABILITY AND LAWSUITS.

BASICALLY, IF WE KNOW THIS AREA IS MAPPED AS A FLOOD HAZARD AREA AND WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE COULD BE IN DANGER AND BUILDINGS COULD BE IN DAMAGE AND DAMAGE COULD BE ESTABLISHED.

FLOOD WAYS ARE REASONABLE PROTECTIVE STEPS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY TURKEY CREEK WAS BUILT AND THAT WAS DESIGNATED A FLOODWAY ZONE.

THIS APPLICATION. THIS APPLICANT MIGHT BE NEW TO OUR CITY, BUT I'VE SEEN THE CREEK RISE 15 FEET, ENCROACHING THE BACK OF SUN, SWEPT FROM MY VARIOUS YEARS OF BEING HERE, THE BACK PORCH ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BACK PORCHES, ALMOST INTO THE HOUSE.

I FEEL THE APPLICANT HAS ACTED IN A PRESUMPTUOUS MANNER WITHOUT REGARD TO THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE ENVIRONMENT, OR TO HIS NEIGHBORS AND UNJUSTIFIED SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT. HE CLEARED A FLOODWAY CONSERVATION AREA WITHOUT ASKING FOR PERMISSION, WHEREAS HE DID NOT NOTIFY THE PROPER CHANNELS OR FOLLOW ANY PROTOCOLS, INCLUDING CITY STAFF. I'LL GET TO YOU IN A SECOND, SIR.

THIS APPROACH OF ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND THEN ASK FOR FORGIVENESS RATHER THAN PERMISSION DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME.

I DON'T THINK IT SAYS WELL WITH COUNSEL EITHER.

MY SUGGESTION TO YOU, SIR, IN ALL HONESTY, IS TO GET A CIVIL ENGINEER.

I'M FINE WITH YOU DEVELOPING YOUR PROPERTY, BUT YOU NEED TO DO IT IN A PROPER WAY.

GIVE ME 1/2, SIR. JUST GIVE ME 1/2 TO FINISH.

AND AS FOR CITY STAFF, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY RISK CREATED BY THIS.

BY THE APPLICANT CLEARING THAT FLOODWAY AREA.

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A HURRICANE SEASON COMING UP AND THERE COULD BE 100 YEAR STORM SURGE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

YOU NEVER KNOW. COULD YOU DEFINE RISK FOR ME SO I CAN I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR RISK.

OKAY. AND I ALSO WANTED TO FIND THAT ANY STUDIES OR THAT STAFF HAS TO DO OR ANY EXTERNAL ENTITY HAS TO DO.

I DON'T WANT TO BE BILLED TO THE TAXPAYER.

I WANT TO BE BILLED TO MR. PREBLE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

SIR? 1/2.

OH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF SETH.

OKAY, GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN.

FELIX AND FAST, MAN.

IS BERNARD. THE APPLICANT MENTIONED THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

STAFF DID RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDED THE APPLICANT.

CAN YOU CAN YOU TALK TO THAT? SO IT FELL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE THE REZONING REQUEST.

HE FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION PROPERLY.

HE TURNED IN ALL OF HIS DOCUMENTS.

HE. HE CHECKED ALL THE BOXES TO.

TO MAKE APPLICATION.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. ACTUALLY, IT WAS COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO THAT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A POTENTIAL CONCERN THAT WE ARE NOW ACTIVELY INVESTIGATING AS TO WHETHER THE CLEARING THAT TOOK PLACE ON MR. BELL'S PROPERTY MAY HAVE ENCROACHED ON CITY PROPERTY.

I'LL BE SENDING OUR CITY ENGINEERS EXCUSE ME, SURVEYORS OUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

BUT ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE NATALIE SHAPER, IF I MAY, WHO IS ONE OF OUR ENGINEERING TEAM OUT IN PUBLIC WORKS.

SHE IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITUATION.

I'D LIKE HER TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. WELCOME TO THE LECTERN, NATALIE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND COUNCIL AND MADAM CITY MANAGER.

SO WHAT I CAN ADD TO THIS BODY OF INFORMATION IS, UNFORTUNATELY, MR. PREBBLE INITIALLY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE, THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT HE WAS DOING ON WHAT HE CONSIDERED HIS PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND THAT WAS HE CLEARED BRAZILIAN PAPER, I BELIEVE, FROM WETLANDS, WHICH IS LAW.

WETLANDS ON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS REGULATED BY THE FDP AND ACTUALLY NOT BY THE ST JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

THEY REGULATE WETLANDS ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE AT THE TIME THE PROPERTY WAS BOTH IN THE UPLANDS INSTITUTIONAL,

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WHICH I BELIEVE IT STILL IS, AND AT AT THE WETLAND LEVEL, FLOODWAY CONSERVATION.

SO THERE WAS NO SINGLE FAMILY DESIGNATION AND THERE WAS NO COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.

SO IT WAS KIND OF CAUGHT BETWEEN THE TWO.

SO BOTH DISTRICT AND DEP WENT TO THE PROPERTY.

FINALLY IT WAS DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE A DEEP CONCERN AND THEY PUT MR. PREBBLE ON A PATH TO REMEDIATING THE WETLAND.

SO TO REPLANT MORE INDIGENOUS PLANS TO BRING IT BACK NOW. AS FAR AS FLOODWAY CONSERVATION, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THERE IS A PURPOSE FOR IT, FOR STORM SURGE AND A 100 YEAR STORM IS LITERALLY A 1% CHANCE OF OCCURRING IN ANY YEAR.

BUT IT'S AS LIKELY TO OCCUR AS NOT.

AND WE'VE BEEN HERE IN FLORIDA, ALL OF US, FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND HAVE SEEN 100 YEAR STORM MANY TIMES.

AND ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AT SUN SWEPT SPOKE TO FLOOD LEVELS RISING AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

SO I DO NOT MYSELF FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT AGREE WITH REZONING, FLOODWAY, CONSERVATION.

HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT IF MR. PREBLE WERE TO GO TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, WHICH WOULD BE THE AGENCY TO GRANT A DOCK OF SOME KIND.

HE MAY BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND THAT ACTUALLY MAY BE IN LINE WITH FLOODWAY CONSERVATION CONDITIONAL USES, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THINGS OF AN EDUCATIONAL NATURE, SUCH AS WALKWAYS, THAT SORT OF THING CAN BE CONSTRUCTED.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S NOT REALLY OUT OF THE BOX THINKING.

I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT HE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH REZONING AND REMOVING ALL RESTRICTION TO FILLING WETLANDS, WHICH WOULDN'T HAPPEN ANYWAY BECAUSE AGAIN, THE FDP IS STILL THE REGULATORY AGENCY.

HOWEVER, THE FLOODWAY CONSERVATION SERVES A PURPOSE.

SO IF MR. POSSIBLE WENT AHEAD TO THE FDP AND REQUESTED A DOCK AND THEY GRANTED THAT, THEN THAT COULD BE ALLOWED.

AS FAR AS DEVELOPING ON THAT FLOODWAY CONSERVATION PORTION, NO UPLAND.

THE ZONING RIGHT NOW IS INSTITUTIONAL, AND I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE CHANGED TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND, YOU KNOW, A HOME CONSTRUCTED THERE OR WHATEVER MR. PARNELL CHOOSES.

BUT I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE FLOODWAY CONSERVATION BEING RESUMED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

MA'AM. MA'AM.

NATALIE, CAN YOU COME BACK? COUNCILMAN FOSTER HAS A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. SINCE THE PEPPER TREES WAS REMOVED.

YES. AND THAT WAS A PROTECTION FOR THE FLOODING.

RIGHT. MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WELL, THE PERPETRATORS WERE LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF A WETLAND.

A WETLAND ACTUALLY PROVIDES FLOODWAY PROTECTION BECAUSE WHEN WATER RISES AND BREACHES THE BANK, THE WETLAND PROVIDES SOME STORAGE.

RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THE PEPPER TREES ARE GONE.

THE PERPETRATORS ARE GONE.

WILL THIS CAUSE MORE FLOODING TO THE RESIDENTS? IF IF THE WETLAND WAS NOT REPLANTED WITH INDIGENOUS PLANTS, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN EROSION.

THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, FILLING FROM THE UPLANDS WITH, YOU KNOW, A LACK OF STABILIZATION OF THE SLOPES.

SO BUT BECAUSE MR. PREBLE DID YET, YOU KNOW, COMPLIANT WITH THE FDP AND GONE ON A PROGRAM WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO RESTORE THOSE INDIGENOUS PLANTS, I BELIEVE HE'S RECTIFIED THAT SITUATION.

SO THE DPI APPROVED HIM TO REMOVE THE PLANTS? NO, HE HE OF HIS OWN VOLITION, DECLARED WITHIN THE WETLANDS HE THOUGHT HE WAS.

HE SAID HE WAS DOING A SERVICE BY CLEARING NON-INDIGENOUS OR INVASIVE SPECIES CALLED BRAZILIAN PEPPER.

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SO HE THOUGHT HE WAS DOING A SERVICE.

HOWEVER, NO ONE IN FLORIDA IS ALLOWED TO CLEAR WITHIN WETLANDS WITHOUT THE FDA AUTHORITY TO DO SO.

THE FDP CAME OUT AND AND OBVIOUSLY I INSPECTED THE PROPERTY AND WAS ABLE TO PUT MR. PREBLE ON A PATH TO RESTORING VEGETATION SO THAT THE WETLANDS DIDN'T DRY OUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WETLANDS HAVE THEIR OWN INDIGENOUS SPECIES.

AND SO THAT THEY HAD HIM REPLANT INDIGENOUS SPECIES.

SO THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF WITH THIS.

THIS WILL HELP PREVENT FLOODING BY REPLANTING.

IT WOULD HELP RESTORE THE WETLAND AND BY RESTORING THE WETLAND AND NOT ALLOWING IT TO BE FILLED IN.

YES, IT WILL ALLEVIATE FLOODING.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

I SEE YOU'RE CONVINCED THAT I WAS ACTING ROGUE AND IN A NATURE THAT WAS IRRESPONSIBLE.

AND I CAN KIND OF FEEL THE CONSENSUS OF THAT FROM AROUND ME.

BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER TABLING THIS MEETING, BECAUSE I CAN SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE EVIDENCE.

FIRST, THE CITY PROMOTES THE REMOVAL OF PEPPERS AND YOU DO NOT NEED A PERMIT.

BUT NATALIE SABER IS THE ENVIRONMENTALIST FOR THE CITY.

I DON'T THINK SHE'S ACTUALLY A SPECIALIST WITH WETLANDS, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS SHE SAID I DISAGREE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION WANTS US TO REMOVE PEPPERS.

THEY DO NOT REQUIRE PERMIT TO REMOVE PEPPERS IS HOW MUCH THEY WANT US TO DO IT, UNLESS YOU REMOVE IT BY THE ROOTS AND THEN YOU NEED A DREDGING PERMIT.

THAT'S SOMETHING I LEARNED THE HARD WAY.

I APPLIED FOR A DREDGING PERMIT.

ANOTHER THING THAT NATALIE HAD SAID THAT I DISAGREE WITH WAS THE LETTER IN THE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT ON WHAT I NEED TO DO TO RECTIFY IT. AFTER THEY INVESTIGATED THE REMOVAL OF THE PEPPER TREES, THEY ACTUALLY SAID, JUST REMOVE THEM ENTIRELY, CLEAN IT UP, AND WE'LL CLOSE THE CASE BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THE VALUE IN THE IMPROVEMENT TO THESE WETLANDS ARE SO MUCH BETTER NOW WITHOUT THE PEPPERS.

BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE TOXINS, DOES IT BLOCK OUT THE SUNLIGHT AND CHOKE OUT THE NATIVE SPECIES, JUST LIKE IT'S WRITTEN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM THE CITY? WHICH I CAN SHOW YOU THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

IT JUST OVERALL IS AN IMPROVEMENT BY REMOVING THEM AS FAR AS GOING ON.

THE CITY PROPERTY COUNCILMAN ST JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CAME OUT AND SAW ME YESTERDAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SO MANY PHONE CALLS.

HE HAD MENTIONED CONFIRMED THAT HE WAS GOING TO WRITE A LETTER THAT EVERYTHING I DID WAS ACCORDING TO THE PLAN THAT HE AND I AGREED ON.

I HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO SPEND MONEY AND TO DO THINGS THAT ARE CONTRADICTORY OR GOING TO HURT ME.

I'M. TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.

THAT'S GOOD.

AND I THINK THERE'S CONFUSION AND I JUST WANT THE CHANCE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT ST JOHN'S DID DO WHAT I JUST SAID, THAT THE REMOVAL OF PEPPERS IS ENCOURAGED AND THAT I'VE BEEN A GOOD STEWARD OF THIS PROPERTY AND FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND I'M CONFIDENT OF THAT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THERE WAS THERE'S LIKE TWO ACRES OF UP LAND WITHIN THAT FLOODWAY CONSERVATION ZONE.

AND YOU DIDN'T NATALIE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT.

THE FLOODPLAIN, THE FLOODWAY CONSERVATION ZONE PROPERTIES ARE ALL WETLANDS.

IT'S NOT FAIR THAT I SHOULD HAVE UPLAND IN THAT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT BE CONSIDERED.

ALSO, WE COULD DISAGREE ON THE HAZARDS OF IT, BUT MY ACTIONS WERE UPRIGHT AND I WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT KNOWN. IF YOU COULD PLEASE TABLE THIS MEETING FOR ONE WEEK AND I CAN GET YOU THIS INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL? VERY. ALL RIGHT, SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION TO DENY CASE CPW DASH NINE, DASH 2022.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION TO DENY LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

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SO FILIBERTO COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO AS YOU WERE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. MAYOR.

IF I'M SIR, I WANT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO YOU.

I KNOW. I'M DENYING IT. WELL, I MEAN, I'M SPEAKING.

I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU HAD ILL INTENT IN WHICH WHAT YOU DID, SIR, I REALLY.

I BELIEVE YOU. I DO BELIEVE YOU.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT ZONING AND THIS ADEQUATE.

I DO THINK THAT YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO WHAT MR. FABER SAID IN REGARDS TO WHAT SHE MENTIONED.

BUT I DO FEEL THIS IS THE RIGHT ZONING.

BUT I.

I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH JUDGING OF CHARACTER.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU DID THIS ILL INTENT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HARM EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW.

SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, SIR, BUT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAN. YEAH, YOU.

YOU SUCK ON THAT, SIR. SO I JUST.

YOU HAVE TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL, SIR.

ARE CIVIL ENGINEERS? I HEAR THERE'S GREAT ONES WITHIN THE COUNTY.

PLEASE HIRE A PROFESSIONAL BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY TO YOU, SIR.

SO WE'RE THEY'RE JUST PROVIDING THEIR COMMENTARY.

IT'S NOT FOR DIALOG, BUT I WILL SHARE THAT.

I AGREE.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS THERE WAS ANYTHING MAL INTENTIONAL.

I THINK YOU JUST WANTED TO REMOVE AND IMPROVE.

REMOVING PEPPER.

PEPPER TREE. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

THANK YOU. AS YOU WERE.

BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO WATER, PLEASE.

ATTENTION ON DECK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

THIS MEETING IS NOW BACK TO ORDER AND WE ARE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY. SORRY.

MS.. JACOBS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ORDINANCE 2022 DASH 51 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO STATE THEIR CASE.

I APOLOGIZE. IT'S.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CAMARA ZENKO.

I'M WITH THE OFFICE OF LACY LYONS AND ROSENKER AND THE ROCKLEDGE OFFICE.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, THE BROWNSTONE GROUP.

WITH ME IS JEREMY MEARS, THE DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, AND BRUCE MOIR, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD WITH MOVIE ENGINEERING.

THE BROWNSTONE GROUP IS A.

A DEVELOPER THAT'S DOING A NEW STYLE OF OF HOMES.

I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

THEY'RE THE APARTMENT COTTAGE STYLE HOMES.

THEY'RE SMALL HOMES THAT ARE REALLY APARTMENTS.

SO IT GIVES PEOPLE A DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITY FOR KIND OF LIVING IN A HOME, NOT LIVING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING QUITE A FEW OF THESE.

I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH THE THE BROCHURE, I BELIEVE.

DOES EVERYONE HAVE THIS? IT WAS DROPPED OFF.

COPIES WERE TO BE GIVEN TO YOU.

HARD COPIES. NOW IT'S THIS.

IT'S A BIG PACKET OF THINGS.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO IN THIS PACKET, IT TELLS YOU ABOUT THE COMPANY.

IT TELLS YOU ABOUT THEIR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND HOW MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS.

SO THIS PROPERTY.

OH, THERE IT IS. YES.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN MALABAR ROAD, NORTHEAST EAST OF BABCOCK, SOUTH OF PORT MALABAR ELEMENTARY AND WEST OF PALM BAY HOSPITAL.

IT'S KIND OF A U-SHAPED.

IT'S AN ODD SHAPED PROPERTY.

IT'S ODD FOR MANY REASONS.

IT HAS. FOUR DIFFERENT ZONING LAWS, THREE DIFFERENT FUTURE LAND USES.

IT'S A VERY ODD PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT.

THIS IS 18.44 ACRES.

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I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD IT LOADED.

SO THIS IS GREAT. SO, AS I SAID, THESE ARE COTTAGE STYLES, APARTMENTS.

AND HOW DO I WORK IT? HERE WE GO. THERE'S THE AREA WHICH YOU'LL SEE THAT'S ON PAGE FIVE.

THAT'S AN ARTIST'S RENDERING.

IT'S A CONCEPT PLAN.

THAT'S A BETTER CONCEPT PLAN OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE LAID OUT.

THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT TO IMPACT BIDDLE STREET TO THE NORTH AT ALL.

THERE'S NO ENTRANCE, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE 25 FOOT SETBACK, A SIX FOOT FENCE AND LANDSCAPE NATURAL AS MUCH AS CAN BE IN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

TO TO THE SOUTH ON MALABAR IS WHERE ALL THE AMENITIES ARE.

THE POOL, THE CLUBHOUSE, THE DOG PARK, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE NOISE AT THE BACK.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE NOISE TO THE TO THE EAST.

BUT WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED THE THE GREEN SPACE ALSO ON MALABAR IS NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

THOSE ARE THE RENDERINGS OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE THERE.

SOME ARE DUPLEXES.

SOME ARE ONE STORY. SOME ARE TWO STORY.

THESE ARE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS.

THESE ARE THE TYPICAL COMMUNITY AMENITIES THE CLUBHOUSE, SWIMMING POOL, FITNESS CENTER, PICNIC AREA, WALKING PASS, PET PARK, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN IN NEWER APARTMENT COMPLEXES TO TO ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE OF APARTMENT DWELLERS.

THE INTERIORS ARE OUR CLASS-A.

PRIVATE BACKYARDS, PRIVATE ENTRANCE.

AS I SAID, THEY'RE NOT NORMAL APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

THESE ARE THE TYPICAL FLOOR PLANS.

AND THESE ARE SAMPLE PRODUCTS OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN OTHER LOCATIONS.

AND THIS IS THE ONES THAT THEY ARE EITHER IN PROCESS OR HAVE ALREADY DEVELOPED.

THERE'S 14 OF THEM AND THIS ONE IS ALSO LISTED ON THAT.

AS MENTIONED, THIS PRODUCT.

AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK IF I CAN GET THERE.

THIS PROJECT IS NESTLED IN TO A PROPERTY THAT IS UNIQUE.

IT. THE SHOW, THE RETENTION POND AT THE TOP THERE.

THAT'S PART OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES IN BETWEEN THAT IN THAT U-SHAPE.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH IS AN ASSISTED LIVING MEMORY CARE LOCATION.

THERE'S A VACANT PARCEL THERE TO THE SOUTH OF THAT AS WELL.

THIS PROJECT WILL LEAVE A ONE ACRE ZONED PARCEL ON NORTH MALABAR, WHERE THERE IS CURRENTLY NO ZONING FOR COMMERCIAL AT ALL.

AND THIS PROPERTY, THERE IS A TINY BIT ALONG THE ENTRANCE WAY.

THAT'S A REMNANT PARCEL. IT'S REALLY AN EASEMENT.

SO THIS WILL THIS WILL HAVE A ONE ACRE PARCEL ON THE FRONT.

THAT'S WHAT THE SELLER HAS ASKED FOR.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE THE BUYER DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO DO.

OKAY. OKAY.

THAT'S OKAY. I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

SURE. GO AHEAD, OK.

WE'RE HERE ON TWO DIFFERENT MATTERS.

FIRST IS THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW.

YES. I BET THE PROJECT IS IMPORTANT SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GOING TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO.

CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LAND USES.

YOU HAVE A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND YOU HAVE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

THE MULTIFAMILY IS ABOUT HALF OF THE PROPERTY.

THE FUTURE LAND USE, THE SINGLE FAMILY IS ABOUT A QUARTER AND THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IS SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE THE SINGLE FAMILY.

IT'S VERY AWKWARD.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS TO GO TO ALL MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, 17.44 ACRES AND ONE ACRE OF COMMERCIAL.

AS TO I JUST PREFER TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE.

IT MAKES SENSE IF YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GETTING THERE.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO TAKE TWO DIFFERENT BOATS.

THE ZONING IS GOING FROM FOUR ZONING TO TWO ZONING LAWS.

CURRENTLY, THE ZONING IS REM 15, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL TWO AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.

THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL IS ONLY A 0.25 ACRES.

YOU CAN'T BUILD ON IT. ACTUALLY, IT'S A NON-CONFORMING LOT.

THE RS TWO IS ABOUT FIVE ACRES.

THE OFFICE PROFESSIONALS 6.45 ACRES, AND THE REM 15 RESIDENTIAL 15 IS ABOUT 6.7 ACRES.

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WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT UP, WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON HERE IS 129 UNITS BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY.

AND THEN YOU ALSO COULD HAVE AS MUCH AS 64,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THOSE TWO UNITS.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE WHERE IT'S LOCATED NEXT TO A MEMORY CARE CENTER.

JUST TO NOTE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BOTH THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND I REQUEST THE SAME OF YOU.

IF YOU'VE READ THE MINUTES, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY MORE CONTACT FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THE CITY, BUT WHEN WE CAME TO PNC A MONTH AGO, WE DID NOT KNOW THERE WERE ANY CONCERNS BECAUSE SERIOUSLY, WE HAD NO ISSUE WITH BIDDLE.

WE WEREN'T GOING TO IMPACT IT. WE WEREN'T GOING TO RIDE ON IT.

WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY DRIVEWAYS.

WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCES.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK.

WE DIDN'T KNOW THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE SO MANY CONCERNS IF THERE WAS 16 OR 17 OF THEM HERE.

THEY SPOKE TO THE DEVELOPER.

MR. MYERS DECIDED, LET'S HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING.

AND THEY DID SO. SO THEY DID HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING.

ON APRIL 20TH AT THE PALM BAY HOLIDAY INN, THERE WERE ABOUT 16 RESIDENTS THAT ATTENDED.

THERE WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, A REPORT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IT, BUT THERE WAS ONE SUBMITTED.

BUT MR. MYERS IS GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, FROM READING, THE MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING CONCERNS WERE PRIVACY.

BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE A SIX FOOT FENCE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ACTUALLY ALLOWING ALONG THE OTHER BOUNDARIES AS REQUIRED BY CODE.

BUT THE CONCERN OF OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH WERE THE PRIVACY.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIX FOOT FENCE AND LANDSCAPING.

THESE ARE JUST THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP AT PLANNING AND ZONING.

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS ONTO BIDDLE, WHICH WILL NOT HAPPEN.

BUT IF THERE WERE SINGLE FAMILY, YOU'D HAVE DRIVEWAYS ALL ALONG.

BIDDLE YOU'D HAVE PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX MORE DRIVEWAYS ON.

BIDDLE IF IT WERE A SINGLE FAMILY.

IT CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE.

IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY USE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MULTI FAMILY, BUT THEY ARE COTTAGES, SO IT'S STILL A SINGLE FAMILY USE.

ANY NOISE THAT WILL OCCUR WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ANY CITY CODE NOISE VIOLATION STANDARDS.

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT'S MARKET RATE. IT'S ABOUT $2 A SQUARE FOOT OF RENTALS FOR RENTAL SPACE.

RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED AT PLANNING AND ZONING ABOUT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

THERE'S CAPACITY THAT DOES EXIST.

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

THERE IS NO REDUCTION IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

THERE HAS BEEN A STUDY THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO THE CITY AND MR. MOYA CAN ADDRESS THAT FURTHER.

THEY WERE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT CRIME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

IT'S IT'S AN APARTMENT.

IT'S NOT KNOWN FOR CRIME, ESPECIALLY AT THE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS.

WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK MR. RAMIREZ, COME UP AND TELL YOU ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND WHAT HE HAS AGREED TO DO, HOW HE HAS CHANGED THE SITE PLAN.

FROM. HE'S CHANGING THE SITE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS.

WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DO A NEW ONE.

BUT HE CAN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.

BY USING THAT DIAGRAM.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JEREMY MEARS.

I'M ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS WITH BROWNSTONE.

YEAH, WE DIDN'T AS KYM WAS SAYING, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING WHEN WE HAD THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARING.

AND LOOKING BACK ON THAT, THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY A MISTAKE.

WE NEEDED TO HAVE THAT. SO IMMEDIATELY AFTER PLANNING AND ZONING, WE WENT AHEAD AND DECIDED TO HOLD THAT AND LISTEN TO CONCERNS.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE AND CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE CAN HAVE CONCERNS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THOSE.

SO SO WE HAD OUR MEETING AND A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT THAT WAS WAS MENTIONING WAS THE FACT THAT PRIVACY CONCERNS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ACCESS ON MIDDLE STREET, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH THAT IN OUR IN OUR IN OUR MEETING WITH THEM.

THE OTHER THING WHAT I'VE DECIDED TO DO FROM CHANGE IS WE DID HAVE SOME TWO STORY HOMES ALONG BIDDLE STREET AND ALSO TO THE EAST SIDE, WHICH WAS AFFECTING MISS GILBERTS PROPERTY, WHICH SHE'S HERE AS WELL.

AND SO WE DECIDED TO REMOVE ALL THOSE AND GO ALL TO SINGLE STOREY.

WE ARE 25 FEET OFF THAT BIDDLE STREET PROPERTY LINE WITH A 25 FOOT SETBACK.

SO I THINK BY PULLING THOSE HOMES DOWN AND KEEPING MORE THE TWO STORY HOMES ON THE INTERNAL PART OF THE PROJECT, THAT WILL REALLY HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY HAVING A WINDOW LOOKING DOWN ONTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOME OVER INTO BIDDLE STREET, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN.

SO WE'RE CHANGING ALL THAT.

ONE OF THE ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DECIDED TO DO IN THAT 25 FOOT SETBACK IS REALLY DO SOME NICE LANDSCAPING.

AND I TOLD THE COMMUNITY ONCE WE HAD A DESIGN ON THAT, WE WOULD SEND THAT BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY LIKE WE DID WHEN WE CONTACTED THEM FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT

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WE HAD. SO I'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT WITH THEM AS WELL SO THEY CAN SEE IT AND SEE IF THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THAT AND ALSO MS. GILBERT'S PROPERTY TO THE EAST BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS HER AS WELL.

I TOLD MS. GILBERT THAT WE WOULD PLANT A BUNCH OF TREES IN HER YARD TO HELP SHIELD MORE AS WELL, AND I'D PRESENT THOSE TREES TO HER AND LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING AND I PLANT THAT IN HER YARD. WE'D ALSO HAVE A SIX OR EIGHT FOOT FENCE THERE IF AN EIGHT FOOT IS ALLOWED.

BUT ANY MORE SCREENING I COULD DO TO TO HELP, JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT VIEW AWAY, BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS JUST WOODED LAND AT THE MOMENT.

SO. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING THE FUTURE LAND USE.

YEAH, RIGHT. AND SO IF WE GET TO THE ZONING PORTION OF THIS, RIGHT, IF WE GET THERE RIGHT, THEN I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO RESTATE EVERYTHING, ALL THE AGREEMENTS THAT YOU'VE COME.

I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ISSUE WHEN YOU TRY TO LUMP BOTH, BOTH ITEMS TOGETHER, BECAUSE I NEED THAT ON THE RECORD IF WE GET TO THAT POINT.

SURE. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF SAY THE REST OF THEM OR WE CAN DO IT THEN.

WELL, I THINK I THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, SO TO SPEAK.

AND I KNOW MR. ZANKA LIKES TO.

HE'S VERY EFFICIENT AND I HONOR THAT.

I RESPECT THAT. BUT I HAD MORE QUESTIONS TOWARDS THE THE LAND USE, THE FUTURE LAND USE ON THAT.

AND I THINK WE JUST WE WENT INTO, YOU KNOW, THESE CONDITIONS.

AND THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, SIR, IS I COMMEND YOU FOR MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS HERE.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO.

BUT YOU TOOK THE RESPONSIBILITY AND AND YOU SHOWED THAT YOU REALLY CARED TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND MOVE IN MOVING THAT DIALOG.

RIGHT. UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO.

BUT I YOU NEED TO BE COMMENDED FOR THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT TIME THAT THAT THAT YOU'VE SPENT SO FAR.

BUT I WANTED TO ASK MORE ON THE THE LANE USE AND I WANTED PERHAPS TO ADDRESS KIM ON THAT BECAUSE OR.

MR. ROSENKER BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE WAY THIS THIS THE ZONING RIGHT NOW, IT'S IT'S REALLY THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD DO ANYTHING WITH THEM.

RIGHT. BUT TO THAT TO THAT EFFORT, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT COMMERCIAL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST 300 LESS THAN 300 FEET OF FRONTAGE.

RIGHT. YOU SPEAK COMMERCIAL TO US, AND I THINK YOU YOU STRIKE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY INTRIGUING TO THIS COUNCIL.

SO FAR, THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNCIL IS GO COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT MIX OF THAT COMMERCIAL BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT OFFICE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE, THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED, IS JUST JUST DOESN'T FIT.

SO OUT OF THE 18 ACRES, I KNOW THAT ONE ACRE.

SO I WANTED TO SEE IF IF THERE'S A CONSIDERATION TO MILK ANOTHER HALF ACRE OR ANOTHER ACRE IN THE COMMERCIAL PROCESS OF THIS, THOSE NUMBERS STILL WORK FOR FOR YOUR DEVELOPER.

AND THIS IS NOT A CONDITION OF COURSE, THIS IS SOMETHING ME SPEAKING OUT LOUD.

I KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF COMMERCIAL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR YOU.

ARE YOU ARE YOU PURCHASING THE COMMERCIAL? NO, I'M NOT. HE'S NOT HE'S HE'S NOT PURCHASING THE COMMERCIAL PORTION.

THE SELLER IS RETAINING THAT.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE CHANGING THE MULTIPLE.

MY RESIDENTIAL TO A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ON THAT PROPER RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES.

SO THAT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TRYING TO GET ANOTHER EIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND. COME ON.

NEXT MONTH. NEXT MONTH, YOU'RE GETTING COMMERCIAL.

ALL RIGHT, CARRY ON, MAN.

SO IS THE FUTURE LAND USE.

IF YOU AS AS YOU'VE I'M NOW LOOKED THROUGH THE REPORT THIS DOES MEET MANY OF THE POINTS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT WITH THE HIGH QUALITY, DIVERSIFIED LIVING ENVIRONMENT, THE MORE VIABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS AS AN ECONOMICALLY VIABLE COMMERCIAL AREA WITH THE ONE ACRE THERE ON THAT ROAD.

THERE'S NOT A THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING ON EITHER SIDE OF IT, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WILL COME.

PERHAPS SOMEONE COULD COME IN AND TAKE IT ALL AND DO A LITTLE CONDOMINIUM RETAIL OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

A NICE RESTAURANT OR A NICE RESTAURANT.

WITH WITH SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

YES. SO ALSO THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

THERE'S NO VIOLATION OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THEIR HOUSING ELEMENT IS MET DOES NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SUPPLY AND VARIETY OF OF SAFE, DECENT, ATTRACTIVE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THERE'S UTILITIES THERE WILL BE PROPER DRAINAGE THERE, SCHOOL CAPACITY.

THEY'RE PROVIDING RECREATION ON SITE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AND THERE WILL BE EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

THERE'S THERE'S ALREADY A TURN LANE IN THERE AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED, WE'LL DO SO THAT VILLANOVA ROAD IS INTERESTING.

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IT'S ACTUALLY AN EASEMENT, BUT IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED.

HALF OF IT'S BEEN BUILT AND THEY WILL BUILD THE OTHER HALF OF IT.

SO INSTEAD OF A TWO LANE ROAD, IT'LL BE BIGGER GOING IN THERE TO TO THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT WILL ALSO SERVE THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON THE EAST HAND SIDE.

ALSO WITH THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT, WHICH YOU'VE RECENTLY ADOPTED.

THIS OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT INFRINGE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE APPLICANT.

THEREFORE, WE BELIEVE WE'VE MET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ELEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR A CHANGE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE, AND WE REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE SAME AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM MR. ZANKA? THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO.

SO FOR ITEM FIVE, YOU DON'T NEED A CART.

BUT I'LL START WITH THE ONES THAT DID WRITE ONE.

JANE JACKSON.

HI. SORRY.

HI. I'M JANE JACKSON.

I LIVE AT 1382 NORWOOD ROAD.

MY FAMILY'S LIVED THERE FOR 31 YEARS.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ACROSS BABCOCK STREET, NEXT TO BIDDLE, WHICH IS AN OLDER, ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE SURROUNDING.

EXISTING LAND USES AND IT DOES HAVE MULTIFAMILY ON THERE BUT THAT PARCELS VACANT AND IF YOU GO BY RECENT HISTORY. YOU'RE CHANGING ZONING ALL THE TIME.

SO BY THE TIME THAT PARCEL IS DEVELOPED, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A FOUR AND A HALF MEETING LAST NIGHT FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, SO.

BASICALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S AROUND THERE IS SINGLE FAMILY.

SO I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT'S COMPATIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW STAFF APPROVED IT.

I KNOW IT SAYS IT HERE.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT.

THERE'S TWO VACANT SPOTS AND THE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S ALL SINGLE FAMILY AND WITH THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

YOU WOULD ASSUME THERE'S GOING TO BE ELEMENTARY KIDS GOING TO PORT MALABAR ELEMENTARY IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY ACCESS? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THERE? THEY CAN'T GO DOWN MALABAR TO BABCOCK.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ELEMENTARY KIDS.

SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ELIZABETH GILBERT.

GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

MY NAME IS BETSY GILBERT.

I GO BY AND I LIVE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED BUILD AN ENTITY REQUESTING THIS ZONING CHANGE.

WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IN A LOVELY SITUATION OF HAVING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BEING SOMEWHAT PRIVATE AS THERE IS NO THROUGH FARE.

TO GIVE YOU A CLUE AS TO WHERE I'M COMING FROM, LET ME GIVE YOU SOME HISTORY.

MY FAMILY MOVED TO BIDDLE STREET IN 1972 FROM HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA.

MY FATHER WAS A FIREMAN WHO GOT INJURED ON DUTY.

I WAS TEN YEARS OLD, SO THAT MAKES ME 60.

MY DAD BUILT OUR HOMESTEAD AT 1942, WHICH IS NOW OWNED BY THE YOUNG FAMILY WHO WILL PROBABLY SPEAK ALSO.

MY HUSBAND AND I THEN BUILT OUR FAMILY HOME IN 1996, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY MOM AND DAD.

SO MY HOME IS 1902 BIDDLE STREET.

WE'RE IN THE INCONVENIENT U-SHAPED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN HOME TO FOUR GENERATIONS OF THE SAVO FAMILY, AS MY LITTLE SIX YEAR OLD GRANDDAUGHTER LIVES WITH US.

THESE ARE TWO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MIDDLE STREET, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF THAT DIAGRAM.

SO I GRADUATED FROM PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL AS A FIRST GRADUATING CLASS.

I LATER BECAME A PALM BAY POLICE OFFICER IN 1987.

I RETIRED AFTER 23 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

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AND MY HUSBAND SERVED 24 YEARS WITH PALM BAY PD.

I DO NOT WISH TO SPEND MY RETIREMENT YEARS SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY.

MY HOME IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY ON TWO SIDES, AND I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO HONOR THE PROMISE IN KEEPING BITTLE STREET FAMILY.

SINGLE FAMILY. RESIDENTIAL.

ENTERING AND EXITING BIDDLE STREET AT BABCOCK HAS BECOME EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

I WAS STOPPED AT THE STOP SIGN AT BIDDLE STREET AND WAS T-BONED BY A BICYCLE ON THE BIKE PATH.

IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE IF WE PUT ALL OF THESE HOMES IN.

I OPPOSE ANY RS.

TWO ZONING CHANGE ALONG BIDDLE STREET, ESPECIALLY ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL OR MULTIFAMILY.

I'M OKAY WITH COMMERCIAL ALONG MALABAR ROAD.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

I THINK DEVELOPMENT IS A GOOD THING.

I DON'T THINK HAVING 170 UNITS TEN FEET AWAY FROM MY STEPDAUGHTER, MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S BEDROOM WINDOW WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ANYBODY. TO ME, THE ZONING IS NOT AWKWARD.

BIDDLE STREET IS RACE TWO AND IT SHOULD REMAIN RC TWO.

YES, MR. MYERS HAS BEEN OPENLY COMMUNICATING WITH ME AND MY HUSBAND FOR SURE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I GUESS I'M DONE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME.

NICK MEYER.

I'M NICK MAYRON. I'M NEXT DOOR TO BETSY, AS SHE JUST MENTIONED.

SO I'M THE ONE KIND OF SURROUNDED BY THE MOAT AND IN THE RENDERING.

UM. I MEAN, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT THE RENDERING, TO ME IT'S IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR WHY RS2 IS A LONG BIDDLE EVERYTHING GOING TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT SCREEN BASICALLY TO THE NORTH IS RS TWO WHERE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BATTLES THE BOUNDARY ROAD, I GUESS YOU'D SAY, OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I GET THAT YOU HAVE 18 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

IT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGHT.

BUT EVERYTHING CLOSE TO THE MALABAR.

THAT'S FINE. MAKE IT COMMERCIAL OR HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

BUT AT LEAST THOSE 200 FEET OR SO THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED RHS TO OFF BIDDLE.

I DON'T GET WHY WE WOULD CHANGE THAT AT THIS POINT.

I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

KEEP IT A NEIGHBORHOOD AND A COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, EVEN 25 FOOT SETBACK THAT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED OFF OF BIDDLE.

THAT'S LIKE ME TO THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM.

AND AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR I MEAN, WE HAVE A SCHOOL KIND OF AROUND THE CORNER.

THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE PEOPLE TRYING TO COME THROUGH THE FENCE AND OUT.

AND IT'S A VERY BUSY ROAD RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY LINED UP WITH CARS FOR THE CARPOOL LANE.

IT'S LIKE YOU CAN'T EVEN DRIVE THROUGH OUR STREETS SOMETIMES AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE MORE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND HOPEFULLY NEVER AN ENTRANCE.

I KNOW THAT IS THE PROMISE THAT THERE WON'T BE A ROAD THAT COMES INTO THAT.

BUT JUST FROM LOOKING AT THIS AND THE TEN FOOT SETBACK ON BETSY'S PROPERTY, THAT'S THAT'S NOT REALLY LIVABLE SPACE RIGHT THERE.

YOU CAN'T EVEN USE THE SIDE OF YOUR YARD.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BUILDINGS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TRASH HEAP OR WHATEVER, WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE RIGHT UP ON THE SIDE OF A PROPERTY, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO FROM I MEAN, WOULD ANYBODY WANT THAT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD? WOULD YOU WANT SOMETHING WITHIN TEN FEET WHEN YOU'VE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE LIVED THERE FOR 50 YEARS? THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS WHERE, LIKE I SAID, IT CAN BE DEVELOPED.

ON THE NON RS TWO PORTION.

BUT I WOULD I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THERE TO BE THE BIGGER SETBACKS IF THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THAT SECTION AND THEN COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS A VEGETATIVE BUFFER, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ALL WOODS RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, THERE'S INTERSTATE NOISE THAT ALREADY AFFECTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A HOSPITAL ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH THAT'S WHERE THE DIRECTION OF WHERE ALL THE WATER IS NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY, ALL THAT WOULD BE GONE AND IT'S GOING TO TRAVEL LOUDER ON THE WATER. EVEN THE LIFECARE CENTER BEHIND US, WHICH THEY'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIRECT LINE OF SIGHT AND THEY HAVE AMBULANCES AND WHATNOT COMING THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME.

IF THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PORTION THAT'S NOT ALONG.

BIDDLE JUST STRONGLY PUSH TO AT LEAST KEEP SOME OF THE MATURE TREES OR PUT IN THE LANDSCAPING.

AND I KNOW JEREMY DID SPEAK TO THAT.

I JUST WANT TO URGE THAT WE KEEP SOME SORT OF NOISE POLLUTION AND EVEN LIGHT POLLUTION FROM THE PARKING LOT.

I MEAN, THAT'S ALL WOODS.

THAT'S ALL WE'VE EVER KNOWN. WE JUST HAVE ANIMALS.

AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OVER MANY GIANT LIGHT POLES OFF THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX SHINING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT YOU CAN DO THERE.

I THINK AT LEAST HAVING THAT 200 FOOT BUFFER OFF OF BIDDLE, THAT'S STILL RS TWO.

I WELCOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO DEVELOP THERE, BUT NOT AS MANY HOMES AS YOU CAN PACK WITH A PARKING LOT AND STREETLIGHTS AND NOISE POLLUTION.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YEAH. WHO? THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THERE WEREN'T MANY COMMENTS HERE AS TO THE FUTURE LAND USE, BUT I UNDERSTAND I DO THE SAME THING AGAIN IN ORDER TO CREATE A PRODUCT THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT MEETS YOUR COMP PLAN WITH A VARIETY OF HOUSING, A VERY QUALITY PRODUCT, THAT ADDITIONAL ACREAGE IS REQUIRED.

AND AGAIN, IT'S FIXING AN ISSUE.

THERE'S CHANGES, TOO MANY CHANGES IN ZONING AND TOO MANY CHANGES IN A FUTURE LAND USE.

AND AS MR. MYERS SAID, IT IS A BOUNDARY ROAD, MIDDLE IS A BOUNDARY ROAD, AND THIS WILL CREATE A VIABLE BOUNDARY FOR CHANGING OF THE FUTURE LAND USE.

THE REST OF THE ISSUES I WILL DISCUSS AT THE IF WE GET TO THE ZONING MATTER.

SO MAY I ASK YOU, MA'AM, YOU SEE THE ENTRANCE DRAWING OF WHAT YOU HAVE THERE? RIGHT ON MALABAR ROAD? YES, SIR. SO WHAT IS THE WHERE'S THE COMMERCIAL PIECE TO THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN YOU GO UP THERE AND SHOW ME BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 300 FEET OF OR LESS THAN 300 FEET.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO A FRONTAGE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THAT ENTRANCE.

THAT ENTRANCE WOULD ALSO PROVIDE AN ENTRANCE TO THE COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MOYER. THAT'S SO COOL.

FOR THE RECORD, HE WENT.

SORRY. SORRY.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE LEARNING THE NEW GADGETS, MA'AM.

CARRY ON. THAT WAS MY MAGIC OF POWERPOINTS.

THANK YOU. CARRY ON.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE AFRICAN? CAN YOU ADDRESS THE THE BORDER OR, YOU KNOW, THEIR CONCERNS? OF THEIR HOMES.

WELL, AND I KNOW THIS IS I NOTICE AND IT'S LOOKING THROUGH YOUR CODE.

THE RS TWO ONLY REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT SETBACK AND NO FENCE.

THE AR TEN, WHICH WE'RE SEEKING, HAS AN EIGHT FOOT SETBACK BUT REQUIRES A FENCE.

SO THERE COULD BE A TWO STOREY SINGLE FAMILY HOME BUILT IN THAT LOCATION RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

MS.. GILBERT AND WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT HER.

I MEAN, WE DON'T.

AND MR. MEARES HAS SPOKEN TO HER MANY TIMES AND WE DO UNDERSTAND AND HE WANTS TO HELP.

IF WE CAN DO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE WITH A VARIANCE, WE CAN DO THAT.

HE'S OFFERED PLANT TREES.

HE'S GOING TO PUT ONLY ONE STORY THERE.

SO HE AND AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL DO BINDING PLANS OR BINDING SITE PLANS OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT HE'S COMMITTED TO DOING THAT.

HE'S COMMITTED TO MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AGAIN WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AND I WILL ENSURE THAT HE DOES, AS HE'S SAYING, BECAUSE HE HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD DO THAT.

WE? AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO BINDING SITE PLANS OR BINDING CONDITIONS OR ZONING CONDITIONS.

DO YOU DO ZONING CONDITIONS? EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND READING IF WE MAKE IT THROUGH TONIGHT SO WE CAN ADDRESS IT BEFORE THEN.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THE COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? OKAY. WHEN I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKED FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED KCPE DASH 15, 20, 22. SECOND.

WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.

UH. DEPUTY MAYOR.

IT'S NOTHING REALLY TO ADD.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS ACTUALLY LOWER DENSITY THAN WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN AND IT'S GOING TO BE LESS OF AN IMPACT, AS MR. ROSENKER MENTIONED.

SO WE'RE LAND USE WISE.

THIS THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR US TO GO FORWARD.

I SEE. THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCILMAN FELIX, YOUR COMMENTS.

MAYOR. THERE'D BE A MAYOR MENTIONED IT.

I MEAN, I WOULD AGREE IT'S THE LESSER DENSITY.

AND I SEE AS WELL A DEVELOPER THAT IS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBOR, SHOW A LOT OF GOOD FAITH, WILLING TO MEET THE 25 SETBACK.

I THINK IT'S A FAIR COMPROMISE.

I MAY SAY THAT, BUT I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

OF THIS. OBLIGATION AS IS.

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SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 20 FOOT, 25 FOOT SETBACK.

RIGHT. THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE SEES AS AS A WAY TO TO WORK WITH OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT EVEN MOREOVER, I THINK HE WENT ON THE RECORD AND I'M GOING TO ASK HIM TO DO IT IF WE GET AS FAR TO THE ZONING WRITE ABOUT NOT HAVING THOSE REAR PROPERTY OWNERS BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE RESIDENTS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ON BRITTLE TO GIVE THEM THAT TYPE OF BUFFER. SO THAT THERE AT LEAST THEY STILL CONTINUE TO BE PRIVATE IN SOME SOME FORM OF FASHION.

BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COMMENT? OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

AND IF YOU FRAME THE QUESTION YOU HAD ABOUT CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, I'M HAPPY TO.

RESEARCH THAT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE 2020 252 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM.

OUR M 15 SIGNAL TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, O.P.

OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL DISTRICT AND RS.

TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO LHC HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND R.M..

TEN SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED BETWEEN AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD AND BIDDLE STREET AND LEGALLY DISTRICT DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AIRMEN OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKED THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD.

AND NOW WE CAN PUT EVERYTHING ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. MAYOR KIM ROSENKER WITH LACY LYONS ROSENKER ON BEHALF OF THE BROWNSTONE GROUP.

WITH ME IS JEREMY MEARS, THE DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, AND BRUCE MOYA.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS, MR. MIKE CAN ANSWER THEM. HE'S VERY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC REPORT THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT HE'S FAMILIAR WITH ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC DEFICIENCIES ON BABCOCK.

I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO SPEAK COHERENTLY.

SO YOU ALSO HAVE THE DIAGRAMS OF THE EXISTING ZONING MAP, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS AT THIS POINT AND THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP.

AND IT IT DOES SHOW HOW IT DOES SEEM WHEN YOU GO FROM THAT ALMOST REMINDS ME OF THOSE OLD ROCKET POPS, THOSE ICE CREAM POPS. IT DOES SHOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE CHANGED.

SO IT IS MORE CONSISTENT.

YOU WILL HAVE REM TEN WHERE ARM 15 IS.

BUT IT IS AGAIN, IT'S IT'S STILL MULTIFAMILY.

IT'S A LESSER DENSITY.

AS I HAD STATED EARLIER, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, AS IS, YOU COULD HAVE 129 SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY HOMES HERE. YOU COULD HAVE 64,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS VERY SMALL 0.25 HHC, WHICH ISN'T GOING TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN ACCESS ROAD.

AS TO THE PROPOSAL, THE 25 FEET BUFFER ON BIDDLE STREET IS PROPOSED WITH LANDSCAPING, A VINYL FENCE, AND MR. MEARS CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT HE HAS AGREED TO.

SO THIS WILL CLEAR UP AN AWKWARD ZONING MAP AS WELL AS TO TO TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON BIDDLE.

THIS WILL NOT IMPACT THAT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CUT THROUGH TO THE GATE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE FENCED IN TO THE TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THE SETBACKS FOR OUR WM TEN DO REQUIRE NOT ONLY EIGHT FT AS THE SAME WITH RS TWO, BUT THAT DOES REQUIRE A FENCE, AND THAT WILL BE PLACED AROUND AROUND THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO MS..

GILBERTS PROPERTY.

THERE WAS AN ISSUE RAISED ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THE LANDSCAPING.

AND MR. MEYERS WILL TRY TO DO THAT, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, ALONG WHATEVER EVER BOUNDARIES HE CAN.

BUT DEFINITELY DURING THE 25 FOOT BUFFET BUFFER THAT'S THERE AS TO LIGHT POLES, REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR CODES DON'T ALLOW SPILLAGE, SO THERE WON'T BE LIGHTING SPILLING OFF.

THIS IMPACTING THE NEIGHBORS TO BIDDLE STREET OR TO MS..

GILBERT. SO ESPECIALLY WITH THE FENCING AND THE LANDSCAPING, ANY OUTSIDE LIGHTINGS WILL BE TOO LOW.

THEY WON'T GO OVER OVER THE FENCE.

I WOULD ASK MR. MEARS TO DISCUSS ABOUT WHAT HE HAS AGREED TO DO IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

YOU CAN HAVE CONDITIONS OF ZONING IN YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

YOU DO BY ORDINANCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR CITY DOES, BUT I DO IT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND IT'S VERY COMMON.

IT'S NOT A BINDING SITE PLAN, BUT IT'S A BINDING ORDINANCE THAT IF THEY VIOLATE IT, THEN THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF YOUR ZONING CODE.

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SO HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO HANDLE IT, HE CAN PUT IT ON THE RECORD.

YOU CAN CONDITIONAL THE ZONING, ASSUMING IT'S ILLEGAL.

AND AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN LOOK IN THAT LATER BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO COME BACK ASSUMING WE PASS THROUGH TODAY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

AGAIN. BEFORE WE EVEN START, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND AND BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

THANK YOU. WELL, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MISS ROSARIO. SHE TOUCHED ON MOST OF MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DID AGREE TO, BUT I THINK I NEED TO STATE IT AS WELL, JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD.

I THINK OBVIOUSLY MS..

GILBERT'S PROPERTY TO THE EAST AND THEN ALL THE RESIDENTS ALONG BIDDLE STREET, THEY'RE THE ONES OBVIOUSLY MOST AFFECTED.

I THINK HAVING THAT 25 FOOT BUFFER COMING UP WITH MAYBE TRYING TO KEEP THE NATIVE PLANTS THAT ARE THERE DOING BERMS, SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, JUST TRYING TO FIND SOME NATIVE TREES TO PLANT.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET, BUT ONCE WE DO, WE'LL COME UP WITH A LANDSCAPE PLAN TO PRESENT THAT TO THEM AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE SATISFACTORY.

WE DID SAY WE'D PULL BACK SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT WENT INTO THAT 25 FOOT BUFFER AND ALSO AGREED TO REMOVE THE DUMPSTER THAT WAS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO BIDDLE STREET, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT BACKUP ALARM CAN GET FAIRLY LOUD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO RELOCATE THE DUMPSTER AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCESSION WE MADE.

AND ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR MS..

GILBERT ON HER PROPERTY, I MEAN, SHE'S OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO ANY TREES I CAN PLANT, IF I CAN GO UP TO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, I WILL, OBVIOUSLY, AS WE DISCUSSED, REMOVE ALL THE TWO STORY HOMES ALONG BIDDLE STREET AND ALONG MS..

GILBERT'S PROPERTY TO KEEP ANYONE FROM LOOKING OVER THAT FENCE AND TO HER PROPERTY OR ALONG BIDDLE STREET.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN EASY CONCESSION TO MAKE AND I THOUGHT WAS WORTHY OF DOING THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AS WELL.

AND ALSO REITERATED TO ALL THE RESIDENTS, THIS IS A SECURED COMMUNITY.

YOU HAVE ACCESS GATES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FOB TO EVEN GET IN.

SO IT'S A HIGH END COMMUNITY.

SO WE'LL THERE WILL BE REALLY NICE TENANTS THAT WILL BE LIVING THERE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MOSTLY YOUNGER PROFESSIONALS BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS, SOME THREE BEDROOMS, BUT THEY'LL BE VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANYBODY CLIMBING FENCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO TYPICALLY IN THESE COMMUNITIES YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN THERE.

IT'S MOSTLY ADULTS.

SO THAT'S OUR TYPICAL CLIENT OR SENIORS WHO LIVE IN THESE TYPE PROPERTIES.

SO SO WE'RE DOING THAT.

THEY ALSO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE.

CURRENTLY, A LOT OF THE WATER THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY DRAINS TOWARD BIDDLE STREET AND THEY HAVE HAD SOME FLOODING.

BUT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE COLLECTING ALL OUR OWN WATER NOW AND MOVING IT OVER INTO THOSE DETENTION PONDS THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

SO IT'S GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I MADE SURE THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL BECAUSE CURRENTLY JUST RUNS FLOWS RIGHT TOWARD BIDDLE STREET.

SO WE'LL BE TAKING CARE OF THAT.

I THINK WHAT ELSE WE DECIDED TO DO, I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT IT MOSTLY JUST THE BUFFERING AND THE HOME HEIGHTS OF THE HOUSES AND ALSO JUST SOME REALLY GOOD LANDSCAPING AND MOVING A DUMPSTER AND JUST DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

BUT I'LL KEEP COMMUNICATING WITH THEM AS WE GET FURTHER THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. YES, SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS? YOU SAY YOU'RE. YOU SAY YOU'RE FINE WITH THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

WELL, IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S ALLOWED.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S I MEAN, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER IF WE COULD DO THAT, JUST AT LEAST ALONG BIDDLE AND ALONG THIS GILBERTS PROPERTY.

SO WE'D HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

CAN WE MAKE THAT A CONDITION? I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN COMMIT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO GRANTING A VARIANCE, BUT YOU CAN COMMIT THAT WE WILL APPLY.

YOUR OTHER ONE. I'M SORRY. I USED A DIFFERENT WORDS OF ADJUSTMENT.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.

THAT'S THE COUNTY, KIM.

KNICKMEYER. YOU'RE GOOD.

JANE JACKSON. HEY.

NO, NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE.

SAYING THAT IN EIGHT FOOT.

THAT'S. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOST OF THEM APPROVED CASEY 15 2022 TO INCLUDE 25 FOOT BUFFER, TO INCLUDE NATIVE PLANTS, PULL BACK THE SIDEWALKS, RELOCATION OF DUMPSTER ADDRESSING DRAINAGE, SINGLE FLOOR HOUSING AND EIGHT. LONG, BITTER, LONG BATTLE IN THE EAST.

YES, SORRY. MISS GILBERT'S PROPERTY AND EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

[03:55:06]

SECOND. FUNGUS ALONG THAT SAME AREA.

THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION.

YES. IS THAT CLEAR? MADAM ATTORNEY. IS THAT GOOD? IF I NEED TO. NO, I UNDERSTOOD THE CONDITIONS.

OKAY. IS THAT GOOD? OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION.

FIVE. OKAY, THEN I REVISE.

THANK YOU. THEN I REVISE TO MAKE A CONDITION FOR THEM TO APPLY FOR EIGHT FOOT VENTS.

EMOTION. OKAY, YOU HAVE A SECOND.

TAKE. AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? THANKS, MR. WEINBERG.

ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

WHEN I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MR. SHERMAN TO PRESENT THE REQUEST.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M GOING TO HAVE NANCY, BUT OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COME UP AND GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. NANCY FELDMAN, DIRECTOR.

THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 2020 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

ON JUNE 20, 2019, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN ALLOCATION OF $527,158 TO PARKS AND FACILITIES.

THIS WAS FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SENIOR CENTER ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING RESTROOMS AND HVAC RENOVATIONS.

WHEN THE BIDS WENT OUT, IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE RENOVATIONS, THE EXISTING CHILLERS FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, OR APPROXIMATELY 27 TO 20, 20 YEARS OLD. AND THE AIR HANDLER IS 20 YEARS OLD.

THE OTHER AIR HANDLER IS FIVE YEARS OLD.

SO THERE IS A NEED FOR THE HVAC RENOVATIONS.

THE PARKS AND FACILITIES GOT AN ESTIMATED QUOTE, WHICH CAME OUT TO BE ABOUT $598,000 AFTER THE RENOVATIONS FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.

THERE WAS A REMAINING BALANCE OF 118,307.

SO THERE IS A REMAINING BALANCE NEED FOR THE FACTS OF 479 SIX 9250 SO THE STAFF IS ASKING THAT WE COMPLETE A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT WHICH IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.

AND THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FUNDS FROM UNALLOCATED FUNDS FROM VARIOUS YEARS PROGRAM YEAR 2017, 18, 19 AND 20. AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO FUND THIS PROJECT.

SO IF WE DID NOT FUND THE PROJECT AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHEN THE AC UNITS WENT OUT, IT WOULD BE DONE ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS.

THE SENIOR CENTER WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED.

WE WOULD ALSO ADDITIONALLY MAY HAVE SOME MOLD FROM LEAVING THE BUILDING ON AIR CONDITIONED FOR A WHILE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PANDEMIC.

BEING ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE AIR HANDLERS AND CHILLERS MAY TAKE A WHILE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF GENERAL FUND.

SO PARKS AND FACILITIES IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. COUNSELOR, ANY QUESTIONS? YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, TO OBTAIN ASSISTANT INPUT AND COMMENTS, AND APPROVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 TO 2020.

CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO ALLOCATE $397,942.50 FOR PIE TO 17 PIE TO 18 PIE 219 AND BY 2020 TO THE SENIOR CENTER PROJECT.

SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

COUNCILWOMAN. FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEE IN NONE ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

[04:00:01]

YES. MAYOR FOR CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE ITEMS TWO AND EIGHT.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

FEW. AND EIGHT.

THIS COUNCIL. ANY OTHER MEMBERS WISH TO PULL ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS FROM CONSENT? IN NONE. I NEED A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEMS TWO AND EIGHT.

SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR, SAYS UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

[2. Award of Proposal: Disaster Recovery Debris Removal Services - RFP 23-0-2022 - Public Works Department (Ceres Environmental Services, Inc. (primary) and AshBritt, Inc. (secondary)).]

BILL BENTON. ALBERT IN 586.

YOU WERE? YES.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S HAS TO READ THE ORDINANCE.

ORDINANCE 2022 DOES 53 AMENDING THE CARDINAL WARD CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 52 BOARDS, SUBCHAPTER YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD BY MODIFYING THE AGE REQUIREMENT FOR ADULT ADVISORY MEMBERS.

FIRST READING. CAN NOW HEAR MASTER CHIEF.

THANK YOU. YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

BILL BURTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS REQUEST IS.

FORCE FOR A HURRICANE.

MAJOR, MAJOR PROBLEM.

WE HAVE HAVE ONE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M JUST REWINDING THE BILL BATTEN TAPES.

AND WHEN REPUBLIC WAS COMING INTO OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION, WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT HURRICANE PICKUP. AND AT THAT TIME, IT WAS SAID THAT THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO.

HANDLE IT, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE.

TWO. THEY ACTUALLY BOUGHT THREE TRUCKS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF THE CLOCK TRUCKS, AND THEN THEY ENDED UP SENDING ONE DOWN SOUTH.

SO THAT'S BUT EITHER WAY, THAT ONLY LEAVES TWO CLAW TRUCKS TO PICK UP THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND THOSE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE FOR MORE THAN ONE HURRICANE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT NOT ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE PROBLEM.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE THAT WHEN WE'RE HOLDING THE CONFLICT THAT THEY SAID, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN GET IT.

BUT NOW I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING ON THAT NOT BEING ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE JOB, YOU KNOW? I UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO DO IT.

I JUST AND I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING SOME PRIOR PLANNING TO HAVE IT ON ON CALL, BECAUSE WHEN PAST EXPERIENCES, WE HAD TO GO OUT AND FIND SOMEBODY AND IT CREATED HATE AND DISCONTENT.

BUT THIS IS PRIOR PLANNING TO PREVENT PISS POOR, PISS POOR PERFORMANCE.

BUT IT'S STILL GOT I HAVE TO QUESTION IT AND CHALLENGE IT BECAUSE WHEN REPUBLIC WAS BEING PRESENTING THEIR CASE TO THE CITY, I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF.

MADAM SHERMAN, IS THAT PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC? NO, SIR, IT'S NOT. AND I MAYBE MY RECOLLECTION IS NOT AS GOOD AS MR. BARTON'S, BUT FOR ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS FOR PICKUP RESIDENTIALLY, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A EXCLUDED SERVICE TO PICK UP AFTER HURRICANES.

SO FOR MANY YEARS, THE CITY HAS HAD A SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR DEBRIS REMOVAL.

IN MY RECOLLECTION OF THE PROCESS AS WE WENT THROUGH THE RFP, ETC., RELATED TO THE CONTRACT THAT LED US TO REPUBLIC WAS THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN DEBRIS PICKUP.

SO THEY'RE INVOLVED IN REGULAR WEEKLY PICKUP OF YARD DEBRIS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YOUR LOCAL HAULERS TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE CITYWIDE DEBRIS CLEANUP AFTER HURRICANE.

THANK YOU. AND SO I MADE A MOTION.

OCEAN APPROVAL WATER FOR PROPOSAL CAN A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM EIGHT.

GO BACK. OKAY.

[8. Consideration of a change order and utilizing Fire Impact Fees for additional foundation costs for the Fire Training Center Facility ($99,788).]

A BATON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S CAUSING THIS.

YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE GROUND STABILIZATION TO TO BUILD ON.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THIS FIRE STATION, PART OF THE BIG THING WAS WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE GREAT SAVINGS BECAUSE WE'RE BUYING AN OLDER BUILDING.

AND THAT DID SAVE US MONEY.

HOWEVER, WE SPENT $73,000 PREVIOUSLY FOR AN UPGRADE, SO WE'D HAVE WHAT WAS CALLED A TURNKEY.

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PRODUCT FOR THE FOR THE BURN TOWER.

WELL, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT DURING THAT TURNKEY PROCESS THAT PRIOR TESTING OF THE SOIL WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT $73,000 ON.

I KNOW IT'S ONLY $73,000, BUT WE START ADDING THEM UP.

SO NOW, AS A RESULT OF THAT PRIOR PLANNING, WHICH WAS NOT CARRIED OUT IN THE ENGINEERING PHASE.

OF THIS. OF THE FIRE STATION.

AND FOR THE BURN TOWER, WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO SPEND 175,000 MORE THAN WHAT THE ORIGINAL TOWER WOULD HAVE COST.

SO WHEN WE HIRE SOMEBODY TO MAKE IT TURNKEY, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THAT TURNKEY MEANT IT WAS A DONE DEAL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TURNKEY MEANS TO ME.

NOT HERE'S THE KEY, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND ANOTHER $100,000 TO MAKE IT WORK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ADAM SHERMAN. I THINK YOU, SIR.

YES. UNFORTUNATELY, I UNDERSTAND MR. BARTON'S POINT. THE THE SOIL TESTING THAT WAS PART OF THE TURNKEY PART OF THE PROJECT DID RESULT IN ISSUES WITH THE SOILS BEING UNSUITABLE FOR THE CURRENT FOUNDATION THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE INSTALLATION.

WE DID ADDITIONAL SOIL TESTING TO SEE IF THE SITE HAD MORE SUITABLE LOCATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT DID NOT.

SO THAT IS THE THAT IS WHY THIS IS BEYOND JUST A TURNKEY COMPONENT, BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY IT'S A FULL ADDITIONAL ASPECT TO THE BUILD.

ESSENTIALLY. IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FOUNDATION THAT HAS TO BE ADDED THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE, UNFORTUNATELY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, I NEED A MOTION.

OCEAN, IMPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER AND UTILIZE THE FIRE IMPACT FEES FOR ADDITIONAL 99,788.

SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE ITEM NUMBER ONE ON UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT VICKI NORTHUP TO THE BCR A.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]

SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER ONE NEW BUSINESS.

MADAM SHERMAN. I THINK YOU.

[NEW BUSINESS]

I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN THIS ITEM OVER TO OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, JOAN BROWN.

SHE'S GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ARPA STATUS.

I ALSO EMAILED YOU ALL DURING THIS MEETING A VERSION OF WHAT'S IN YOUR KIND OF LENGTHY AGENDA MEMO.

JOAN HAS CREATED A NICE LITTLE SNAPSHOT POWERPOINT TO HELP GUIDE THE CONVERSATION.

EVENING. MAYOR IN COUNCIL AGAIN.

JOAN BROWNE, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER APOLOGIES FOR THE VERY LENGTHY EMAIL.

I WANTED TO PUT A LOT OF THAT INTO PUBLIC RECORD INTO ONE FORMAT, BUT I DO HAVE A SUCCINCT SLIDE HERE OF APPROXIMATELY TEN DIFFERENT SLIDES, SO BEAR WITH ME AS I GO THROUGH THIS. SO JUST TO RECAP, WE DID RECEIVE A LITTLE OVER 18 MILLION UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS JUST FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THIS COMES TO US IN TWO EQUAL TRANCHES.

WE GOT THE FIRST TRANCHE IN JUNE 2021, APPROXIMATELY 9 MILLION.

OUR SECOND TRANCHE TRANCHE WILL BE DUE TO US THIS JUNE.

SO WE CAN DRAW THAT DISBURSEMENT AT THAT TIME.

WE HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 2024 TO ASSESS FUNDING TO BE EXPENDED OR EARMARKED, ESSENTIALLY HAS TO BE EARMARKED BY 2024, ON DECEMBER 30, THIS OF DECEMBER 31ST.

BUT IT HAS TO BE FULLY EXPENDED IN 2026.

THIS SLIDE IS A RECAP OF WHAT IS ELIGIBLE UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

AGAIN, IT'S TYPICAL EXPENDITURES RELATED TO RESPONDING TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

OTHER ITEMS RELATED TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THAT AND THE IMPACT TO HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES.

AND THEN RESPONDING TO PERFORMING ESSENTIAL WORK.

SO WE DID A PREVIOUSLY UNDER COUNCIL, I THINK IN DECEMBER, IN MARCH, APPROVE A COVID LEAP BENEFIT FOR STAFF.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL COVER IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES ARE YEAR TO DATE FOR PROVISION OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO THE EXTENT OF THE REVENUE REDUCTION OR I'M SORRY, REVENUE LOSS.

ONE ITEM OF NOTE REGARDING THIS PIECE IS THAT PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A CERTAIN CALCULATION THAT YOU HAD TO USE OF YOUR TOTAL ALLOCATION, CALCULATED WHAT YOUR REVENUE LOSS WAS DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

THAT WAS A LITTLE OVER 4 MILLION.

RECENT US TREASURY FINAL RULING STATES THAT YOU CAN USE UP TO 10 MILLION OF YOUR ALLOCATION.

SO WHEREAS IT WAS 4 MILLION PREVIOUSLY, OUR FINAL RULING NOW SAYS 10 MILLION.

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AND THEN THE FINAL IS MAKING AND THESE ARE WHAT I CALL THE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE COMPONENTS OF THE OF THE ARPA FUNDS, AND THAT'S MAKING NECESSARY INVESTMENTS IN WATER, SEWER AND BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS A RECAP HERE.

OF THE TEN OF THE 18 MILLION THE CITY WAS ALLOCATED, 10 MILLION CAN GO TOWARDS REVENUE LOSS.

THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT REVENUE LOSS IS DESCRIBED AS IN THE INTERIM I'M SORRY, IN THE FINAL RULING.

SO BUILDING OF NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AS A PROVISION OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES, MODERNIZATION OF CYBERSECURITY, INCLUDING HARDWARE, SOFTWARE, PROTECTION OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, OR PAY AS GO SPENDING FOR BUILDING OF NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE PROVISION OF POLICE, FIRE AND OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES.

I WON'T READ THE ENTIRETY OF THE SCREEN, BUT ESSENTIALLY GENERALLY ELIGIBLE EXPENSES UNDER ARPA ARE RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THAT'S YOUR WATER, SEWER AND BROADBAND.

SO I TRIED TO FIT THIS IN ONE SLIDE AND I'M GOING TO TRY AND.

STATE THIS SUCCINCTLY, AND I BROKE IT OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT SLIDES.

SO TO DATE OF OUR FIRST DISBURSEMENT, DISBURSEMENT OF 9 MILLION COUNCIL HAS ALREADY EARMARKED APPROXIMATELY 5.6 MILLION.

AND THAT'S UNDER THOSE TWO CATEGORIES, REVENUE LOSS AND GENERAL ELIGIBLE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE OF THE REVENUE LOSS.

THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 650 THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE BODYCAMS FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE SMARTPHONE COMPATIBILITY COMPONENT OF THAT, ABOUT 80,000, THEN WE HAVE 2 MILLION THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR BUILDING EA CONSTRUCTION, ANOTHER 2 MILLION FOR REPLACEMENT OF OUR CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

UNDER THE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE SECTION, WE HAVE THE COVERED LEAVE.

SO YEAR TO DATE.

345,000, ROUGHLY.

AND THEN THE DISASTER RECOVERY SITE CLOUD, WHICH BRIAN MENTIONED UNDER HIS I.T.

DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION, 275,000.

AND THEN THE OTHER CYBERSECURITY COMPONENT OF THAT, WHICH IS MORE RELATED TO SOFTWARE, IS 300,000.

SO AGAIN, OUT OF THE TOTAL 9 MILLION THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DISPERSED, WE HAVE SPENT OR I'M SORRY, WE HAVE EARMARKED 5.6 MILLION.

OF THAT TOTAL 5.6 MILLION, 4.7 OF THAT IS OUT OF REVENUE LOSS.

SO REMEMBER, YOU GET 10 MILLION TOWARDS REVENUE LOSS ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES AND SO FAR COUNCIL IS DEDICATED 4.7.

SO THIS BREAKS DOWN JUST ESSENTIALLY SECOND DISBURSEMENT IS GOING TO BE THE THE OTHER EQUAL TRANCHE OF 9 MILLION.

YOU HAVE A REMAINING BALANCE OF YOUR FIRST DISBURSEMENT AT 3.3 MILLION.

THE TWO COMBINED IS A TOTAL OF 12.3 MILLION.

SO IN I THINK IT WAS DECEMBER.

NO, I'M SORRY. IT WAS MARCH.

WE. CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND WE DID A PRESENTATION ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL.

AND THE DIRECTION ESSENTIALLY CAME FROM COUNCILMAN FELIX.

HOW TO USE OUR ARPA FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS.

SO WE PUT OUT THE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND ESSENTIALLY SAID, TELL US HOW YOU BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING THIS MONEY ON EFFORTS TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT WAS ADVERTISED I'M SORRY, THAT WAS PUBLISHED FOR A LITTLE OVER A MONTH.

WE RECEIVED 12 RESPONSES.

WE HAD NONPROFITS AND FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

TEN OF THOSE RESPONDENTS PROPOSED USING ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO SUPPLEMENT OR TO LEVERAGE THE FUNDS THAT WE WOULD PUT IN.

AND THEN THERE WAS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES, BUT ESSENTIALLY A LOT OF THOSE RANGED FROM PUBLIC SERVICES TO SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

HENCE THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RANGE OF FUNDING REQUESTS.

75000 TO 5 MILLION.

SO OFF THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TONIGHT IS HOW DO YOU HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE STAFF GO OUT AND CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY TO FIND USES FOR ARPA? AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR MONTHLY HOMELESSNESS TASK FORCE MEETINGS.

THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY THREE DIFFERENT TIERS IN WHICH THE CITY CAN, THREE DIFFERENT TIERS IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY CAN EFFECTUATE CHANGE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS.

AND THOSE THREE TIERS ARE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE, TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE AND PERMANENT ASSISTANCE.

AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING AT THIS POINT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU FIND SOMEBODY ON THE STREET, THEY NEED A PLACE TO GO OVERNIGHT.

YOU QUICKLY PUT THEM IN A HOTEL ROOM.

THE SECOND IS THE TEMPORARY HOUSING YOU NEED TO PROVIDE THEM CASE MANAGEMENT.

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YOU CAN'T FIND THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE HOMELESS.

SO THEY'RE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT HOMELESS CAMPS.

SO YOU REALLY CAN'T PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED TO GET THEM BACK TO STABILITY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LOCATE THEM.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE TEMPORARY HOUSING AND THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES COME IN.

AND I'M GOING TO REFER TO THAT AS SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS THE PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHERE WE CAN EFFECTUATE CHANGE AS A CITY IS THROUGH THE FUNDING THAT WE GET THROUGH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL HOUSING PROGRAMS. WE TALKED ABOUT CDBG TONIGHT.

WE HAVE SCHIP AND WE HAVE OTHER FUNDING PROGRAMS. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE PUBLIC SERVICES TO HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB AT THAT.

THE THIRD IS THE PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE HAVE WHAT'S COMING UP BEFORE YOU ALL IN JULY IS INCLUSIONARY HOUSING.

AND THAT'S A COMPONENT OF THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS GIVEN US THE ABILITY OR PREEMPTED US FROM NOT ALLOWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT.

SO WE WE DO RIGHT NOW, WE CAN WORK WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER.

THEY WANT TO GO IN A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

WE CAN DO THAT. SO WE HAVE THOSE TWO POLICY AND AND FUNDING THAT WE CAN EFFECTUATE CHANGE FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE AND PERMANENT ASSISTANCE WHERE WE DON'T USUALLY FIND THAT FUNDING IS FOR THAT MIDDLE MISSING PIECE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO SIT UP HERE AND PRETEND I'M AN EXPERT IN HOMELESSNESS.

THERE ARE FOLKS BEHIND ME THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT, TOO, SO I'LL LET THEM DO THAT.

BUT TIER TWO IS WHERE I REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON HOW WE GO FORWARD WITH USING ARPA FUNDS FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH IS AGAIN TEMPORARY HOUSING AND THOSE WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

CASE MANAGEMENT BEING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

IT'S IT'S A RANGE OF DIFFERENT SERVICES TO INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH.

SO GETTING BACK TO THE BALANCE OF THE FUNDING OUT OF BOTH THE THE FIRST TRANCHE AND THE SECOND TRANCHE OR DISBURSEMENTS, WE HAVE 12 MILLION. WE HAVE PROPOSED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES.

THE FIRST ONE WE'LL LOOK AT GENERALLY ELIGIBLE.

THAT'S ALWAYS THE EASIEST.

SO WE HAVE ENHANCED CLEANING SERVICES THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING AT CITY FACILITIES TO ENSURE THAT WE SAFEGUARD CITIZENS AND STAFF FROM COVID 19.

SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT THROUGH 2026.

THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 50,000.

THE SECOND UNDER GENERALLY ELIGIBLE IS 2 MILLION FOR HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT IS A NUMBER THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT COUNCILS WILL IS ABLE TO DISCUSS.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS THE REVENUE LOSS PIECE.

THE REVENUE LOSS, THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THAT 10 MILLION IS 5.26.

AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THAT ALL TOWARDS BUILDING E.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT BEING IS THAT THE COST FOR BUILDING E IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 11.5 TO $14 MILLION.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP.

AND SO THE COST OF BUILDING E HAS GONE UP.

AND AS WE EXPAND AS A CITY, AS WE GROW, WE'RE ALREADY BURSTING AT THE SEAMS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING THE ENTIRETY OF THE REMAINING BALANCE OF REVENUE LOSS, PUTTING THAT TOWARDS BUILDING E SINCE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY IT WOULD TAKE US MANY YEARS TO SAVE AS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE CITY.

THERE IS A CAVEAT DOWN BELOW TO OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AN ADDITIONAL NEED FOR FUNDING FOR THE CITY WIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

AND I WON'T GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT ENTAILS.

BUT BRIAN ROBINSON IS HERE, SO IF WE NEED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

AND THE OTHER IS AND I GUESS I'LL SAY TO THE TO THE CITY WIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM PIECE, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE IT'S ELIGIBLE UNDER THE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE USES.

BUT I AM WAITING ON THE US TREASURY TO GET BACK TO ME.

FIRE STATION SEVEN.

WE ALL KNOW WE DEMOLISHED FORMER FIRE STATION ONE ON PALM BAY ROAD.

THAT'S A FUTURE NEED FOR THE CITY.

IT'S A HIGH GROWTH AREA FOR THE CITY.

SO THERE'S THE QUESTION OF HOW DO WE FUND THAT? ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO FUND A FIRE STATION AND IT'S APPARATUS THROUGH GRANTS AND ALLOCATIONS FROM OUR LEGISLATORS.

IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO FUND A GOVERNMENT FACILITY LIKE BUILDING E THROUGH GRANTS AND STATE APPROPRIATIONS.

QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I WANTED JUST THAT CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

IS THAT I.T.

PROPOSAL? TO ENHANCE OUR OUR MAINFRAMES AND MAKE A LOCATION FOR

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THEM. AND I'M TYING IN TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO THE SECURITY OF OUR WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE.

RIGHT. EXCELLENT. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

BRIAN ROBINSON, 19 DIRECTOR.

SO THE CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, WE HAVE A FINANCIAL SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1996, I BELIEVE, AND WE HAVE NOT REPLACED IT SINCE THEN. SO WE ARE WAY PAST OUR TIME OF USABLE USE OUT OF THE SYSTEM.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE SYSTEM WHICH MOVE INTO A MODERN APPLICATION WILL SOLVE.

ALL RIGHT. SO SOME THINGS LIKE COMPLIANCE, THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND MORE CONTROL OVER FINANCE, HOW FINANCES MOVE AROUND WITHIN THE CITY.

WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OVER THAT OR EXECUTIVES WILL HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THAT.

AND SO THIS WILL BRING US INTO MORE OF A NEW CENTURY, 2022, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE.

FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THIS PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WE'VE WORKED WITH JULIETTE ON THIS OR A PROCUREMENT CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER ON THIS.

SO WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OTHER CITIES AND WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO FULLY IMPLEMENT THIS AND WHAT WAS THEIR BEST PRACTICE AND ALSO SUCCESS RATE. AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS THAT MOST OF THE COMPANIES THAT WE LOOKED AT OR ORGANIZATIONS WE LOOKED AT ACTUALLY HIRED A CONSULTANT TO HELP THEM WITH THE RFP PROCESS BECAUSE THIS WILL BE A MASSIVE PROJECT.

THIS ENTAILS SEVERAL APPLICATIONS CITYWIDE, SO IT WOULD BE A VERY MASSIVE PROJECT AND WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DEDICATE TO THIS PROJECT SOLELY TO GET IT GOING. SO THEY THESE ORGANIZATIONS WOULD HIRE A CONSULTANT NOT ONLY FOR THE RFP PROCESS, BUT ALSO FOR THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS OF THE RFP AND ALSO MOVE INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION STAGE.

SO THEY WALK YOU THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND OF COURSE OUR STAFF WILL BE COMMITTED TO ASSIST THEM WITH THAT PROCESS.

BUT WE'LL FIND OUT THAT THERE WERE MORE SUCCESS.

SUCCESS RATE INCREASES WHEN YOU HAVE A CONSULTANT, HELP YOU TO WRITE THE RFP FOR ONE, HELP YOU WITH THE NEGOTIATION AND ALSO HELP YOU WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING HERE IS TO HELP US TO BE ABLE TO SECURE THAT PORTION OF IT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE A SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION.

AND AND YOU GIVE ME SOME INSIGHT AS TO WHAT THE GOAL WOULD BE USING THIS TO TO DO WHAT.

THE APPLICATION ITSELF.

SO ALL OF OUR OUR CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEMS ARE REFERRING TO THE DATABASE THAT HANDLES ALL OF THE STAFF BEING PAID OR A PROCUREMENT MODULE FOR ALL THE PIECES AND PARTS OF PROCUREMENT HANDLES OR FINANCE TEAM OR ACCOUNTING TEAM PUBLIC WORKS WE HAD BUILT IN BEFORE IN IN USING THE SAME APPLICATION IT USE IT AS WELL.

ACTUALLY CITYWIDE WE USE IT AS WELL FOR ALL OF OUR WHAT WE PUT IN A REQUISITION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO GET PAYMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ALL FLOWS THROUGH THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM.

APPLICATIONS SUCH AS THE NEWLY E PERMANENT APPLICATION IMS. ALL ALL OF THOSE THINGS CENTER BACK TO THIS ONE CONSOLE, WHICH IS THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

SO EVERYTHING COMES BACK HOME TO THIS BASE.

BUT AGAIN, IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

SO THE CHALLENGE THERE IS WE NEED TO REPLACE THIS ENTIRE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND USE A MORE MODERN APPLICATION.

SO IT WAS IT'S COMPLETELY REPLACED IN THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

RELOCATING IT, NOT NECESSARILY RELOCATING.

WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS THERE, ONE OF WHICH IS WE COULD DO IT ON PREM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A ON PREMISE SOLUTION, OR WE COULD GO TO A CLOUD SOLUTION.

SO WE HAVE OPTIONS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WHICH AGAIN, TO ANSWER YOUR INITIAL PORTION OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT SECURITY, IT WILL ENHANCE THE SECURITY OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS WELL. YES, BUT I THINK OUR BIGGER GOAL IS MORE CONTROL AND REPORTS THAT WE CAN PRODUCE OUT OF IT WITHOUT REQUIRING TOO MUCH HUMAN INTERVENTION.

SO OUR GOAL THERE WILL HAVE MUCH MORE WORKFLOW PROCESS AND ALL THAT BEING ANNOUNCED.

THANK YOU. I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER HAS SOME QUESTIONS.

SURE, SIR.

WHAT IS SAVE US MONEY BY UPGRADING THE SYSTEM? I THINK IN THE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A TRICK QUESTION.

I THINK IN THE LONG TERM FOR THE INVESTMENT, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BORROW A PHRASE FROM JULIET HERE.

I THINK IT'S THE VALUE ADDED THAT WE'RE MORE INTERESTED IN VERSUS NOT JUST NECESSARILY, OF COURSE, WE LOOK AT SAVINGS, BUT I THINK THE SAVINGS WILL COME IN AS IT MATURE OVER TIME, ALWAYS WITH APPLICATIONS, THE INITIAL INVESTMENT IS ALWAYS MUCH MORE COSTLY.

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BUT AS YOU GO, YOU'RE JUST PAYING MAINTENANCE FOR THE SYSTEM OR SUBSCRIPTION LICENSES, AND YOU MOVE FORWARD TO OVER TIME, YOU WILL GAIN THE SAVINGS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THE INITIAL INVESTMENT IS ALWAYS MASSIVE VERSUS THE SYSTEM WE GOT NOW.

YES. AND COSTING US MONEY.

IT IS COSTING US MONEY, BUT IT ALSO WILL OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE NEW APPLICATION.

SO WHAT WE BUDGETED TODAY WILL KIND OF ROLL OVER INTO MAINTENANCE FOR THE NEW SYSTEM.

BUT IT'S A VERY TRICKY QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO A MODERN APPLICATION, YOU'RE THERE GOING TO BE A NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONALITY TO IT.

SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE MAY DISCUSS AND OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD DO, MORE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, PORTIONS THAT COULD BE ADDED.

I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE TOO MUCH, BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT THERE ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONALITY THAT CAN BECOME AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE MORE SERVICES THAN WHAT WE DON'T DO TODAY, AND SO WE CAN AUTOMATE SOME OF THAT PROCESS.

WELL, IF HE WAS TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON THIS NEW SYSTEM.

IT'S GOING TO BE SOME UPGRADES TO IT, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME MORE MONEY.

WELL, NO. SO SO THE UPGRADES ARE ALL BUILT INTO THIS COST.

RIGHT. AND SO WHEN WE DO WHEN WE PAY FOR A MAINTENANCE OR A MAINTENANCE SUBSCRIPTION, ALL THE UPGRADES ARE INCLUDED IN THAT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR UPGRADES.

SO THIS IS A ONE TIME REPLACEMENT.

AND THEN THE THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE PAY FOR INCLUDES UPGRADES AND HOT FIXES.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO I WANTED TO GO BACK AND AND I HAD SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO I'D LIKE TO GO BACK I LIKE WITH HOW JOANIE BROKE DOWN OR MISS GIANCARLO BROWN, THE TEMPORARY HOUSING COMPONENT.

I KNOW THAT MOST OF US WE DISCUSS, LIKE SHE SAID.

COUNCILMAN FELIX WANTED TO TACKLE THE CASE MANAGEMENT ASPECT TO IT.

RIGHT. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH COUNCILMAN FELIX WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE.

WE DISCUSSED THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO IT.

AND AND SO MAYBE IT WARNED US AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS, RIGHT? MAYBE IT WANTS US TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS THIS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.

SO WHAT? WHO ARE THE SPEAKERS? OH. FIRST SPEAKERS. JEFFREY NURSE.

MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M JEFFREY NURSE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DAILY BREAD 815 EAST FIFTH AVENUE, UP IN MELBOURNE, I THINK.

PASTOR KEN SET THE TONE WITH PALM BAY BEING THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH AS INDIA AND AS THE GREATEST CITY.

I'LL PUT SOME SOME WORDS IN PASTOR KEN'S MOUTH BECAUSE I KNOW HE'D BE RIGHT WITH ME.

THE GREATEST, REMEMBER THE LEAST.

AND I JUST AM GRATEFUL FOR THE ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH WITH YOU MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REMEMBERING THE LEAST OF THESE AND REMEMBERING OUR LORD'S WORDS.

AND MATTHEW 25, WHEN I WAS HUNGRY, YOU GAVE ME FOOD.

WHEN I WAS NAKED, YOU CLOTHED ME AND WE CARRIED THAT OUT TO WHEN I WAS HOMELESS.

YOU DON'T JUST MAKE ME MORE COMFORTABLE IN MY HOMELESS SITUATION.

YOU HELP ME GET A HOME. WHEN I WAS HOMELESS, YOU HELPED ME GET A HOME.

AND THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND I THINK THE WAY YOU LAID IT OUT, JOAN, WITH THE THREE TIERS IS A VERY HELPFUL WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

AND THAT SECOND TIER IS A KEY PLACE THAT THAT WE'VE LEARNED AT DAILY BREAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, DOING MORE TO HELP PEOPLE GET OFF THE STREETS INTO A PERMANENT HOME, A HOUSING SITUATION.

THERE'S THAT TRANSITIONAL TIME WHERE THERE'S A KEY MOMENT OF STABILIZATION WHEN WHEN OUR CASE MANAGERS CAN CAN CAN GET TO KNOW AND WORK WITH SOMEBODY AND SEE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT HAD THEM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO WORK WITH TO OVERCOME THEM.

TALKED ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES ARE DEFINITELY THERE.

I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH MELBOURNE.

I INITIALLY CAME TO YOU LAST FALL WITH MAYOR ALFRED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR SET ASIDE OF $2.5 MILLION FOR DAILY BREAD TO MOVE AND EXPAND.

AND WE MADE CLEAR AT THAT POINT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PALM BAY AS A REAL POSSIBILITY, AND THAT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF A POSSIBILITY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND AND THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN PALM BAY.

AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS IS NOT DAILY BREAD MOVING FROM MELBOURNE TO PALM BAY.

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WE WANT TO TRANSFORM AND DO SOMETHING NEW.

OUR STAND IN NAME FOR THE PLACE RIGHT NOW IS GRACE PLACE FOR PEOPLE THAT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE THAT THIS WOULD BE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME TO OVERCOME THEIR HOMELESS SITUATION. AND IT WOULD INCLUDE A TEMPORARY HOUSING.

WE CALL IT BRIDGE HOUSING.

IT CAN BE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN AN EMERGENCY.

THEY JUST NEED TO GET OFF THE STREETS FOR 30 DAYS TO STABILIZE.

AND THEN THEY CAN CAN MAYBE RECONNECT WITH FAMILY IN ANOTHER LOCATION AND GO AND MOVE AND LIVE WITH THEM TO GET THEIR FEET UNDER THEM FOR A WHILE AND THEN THEY'LL BE OFF AND RUNNING. WE ALSO WOULD INCLUDE UNITS TO BE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN RECOVERY, PARTNERING WITH OTHER AGENCIES. WE WOULDN'T BECOME A A A RECOVERY HOUSE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OUTPATIENT RECOVERY OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD PARTNER WITH.

CIRCLES OF CARE, BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE THAT THAT COULD COULD DO IT IN THAT WAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. REWARD.

EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

GLAD TO BE HERE. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TOPIC UP.

THANK YOU, JOAN, FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND THE STAFF ON ON THIS.

MY NAME IS DREW WARREN.

I'M DUE LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I'M 16, 15 GARDENS AND STREET.

I ALSO AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY OF HOPE, AND WE ARE LOCATED IN PALM BAY AS WELL ON BABCOCK STREET.

SO. I'M ALSO THE THE CHAIR OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE OF THE HOMELESS COALITION, AND I SERVE ON THE CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD WITH THE HOMELESS COALITION.

SO, SO I'M WELL VERSED IN HOMELESS HOMELESSNESS, AND I ECHO MUCH OF WHAT JEFF WAS SAYING.

BUT I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THIS IS.

IN THE WORDS OF A MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH THE WITH THE FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION.

A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS.

THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN.

WE HAVE A VERY, VERY LIMITED SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THIS ISN'T JUST.

YOU KNOW, THE THE HOMELESS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THE 900 PLUS HOMELESS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY PROBABLY WELL, MORE THAN THAT, THAT ARE STREET HOMELESS.

THIS IS AFFECTING.

EVERYBODY. THIS ISN'T THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, IS NOT ABOUT JUST THOSE THAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE POSTER OF HOMELESSNESS. THEY'RE THE THE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE.

THEY ARE THE THE WOMAN THAT CAME TO ME LAST MONTH AGO WHO MAKES OVER $40,000 A YEAR.

SHE LOST HER JOB DURING THE PANDEMIC.

SHE HAD A PERIOD OF OF NOT WORKING.

SHE'S BACK TO WORKING, BUT SHE'S BEEN HOMELESS FOR A YEAR.

SHE HAS BEEN LIVING IN HOTELS.

SHE HAS A CHILD.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE HOTELS BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THE THE I THINK AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE TO ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS, THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES WHERE YOU CAN ALLOCATE THE MONEY.

BUT AS THEY AS THEY SAID AT THE THE MEETING THE OTHER DAY, IT'S A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I WANT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I AM A CITY RESIDENT.

I WANT YOU ALL TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

I WANT YOU TO PUT MONEY IN THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE THE CITY MORE EFFICIENT.

BUT I REALLY WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AS A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING BIGGER WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO LET'S LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AND I KNOW, MS..

JOAN, YOU'VE DEVOTED A LOT OF TIME TO THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE WE GO FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD PROPOSALS COME TO US OR IDEAS OF WHAT SERVICES THEY WOULD PROVIDE.

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RIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT AND SEE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. SO I'M HEARING EVERYBODY AND I'M LOOKING AT IT AND I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY OVERALL.

WHAT WOULD I THINK WOULD BE MOST FEASIBLE? POTENTIALLY. I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

AND I TALKED TO STAFF A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US.

YOU KNOW. MOVE THE REMAINING BALANCE TO REGARDING.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

TO ADDRESS LIKE TIER TWO AND THREE CONTINGENT UPON A WAITING U.S.

TREASURY OPINION ON CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, IF THE U.S.

TREASURY OPINION SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T USE THE CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM OR YOU CAN'T USE ARPA FUNDING FOR THE CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, AND ALL OF IT GOES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS, CASE MANAGEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH.

BUT IF THEY DO SAY WE CAN USE.

FOR CITY WIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND THE 2 MILLION GOES TO THE CITY WIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND THE REMAINDER GOES TO WHAT I JUST STATED.

SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, I THINK THE WAY JOAN EXPLAINED IT, WE THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR THE PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I'M I'M REALLY CONCENTRATING ON THE TIER TWO AND TO GET THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CASE MANAGEMENT COMPONENT TO THAT.

AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN PLACE THERE, RIGHT, WITH THE CASE MANAGEMENT COMPONENT TO IT.

ON THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO IT, THEN WE WE STAND TO GET SOME FUTURE FUNDING REGARDING THE OPIOID FUNDING, IF YOU REMEMBER TYING THAT IN TO THAT.

BUT AS FOR.

I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF GOING WITH BUILDING E AND GETTING THAT.

PUNDIT. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.

BECAUSE THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY TRULY NEED AS WELL.

SO THOSE ARE MY WELL, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

I DIDN'T THINK WE CAN USE IT ON BUILDING LIKE THAT'S THE MAX WE COULD USE.

CORRECT. OR WE COULD.

YEAH. LET ME CLARIFY.

SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, YOU HAVE 5.5 MILLION ROUGHLY OF THE TWO DISBURSEMENTS.

THAT'S AFTER YOU PUT ALL OF THE REVENUE LOST BALANCE TOWARDS BUILDING.

SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM REVENUE LOSS WE CAN PUT TOWARDS BUILDING E 5.2.

OKAY. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS.

THERE'S ALREADY 2 MILLION.

YES. UNDER GENERALLY ELIGIBLE FOR HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND YOU'RE SUGGESTING TAKING ANOTHER THREE FROM THE BALANCE OF BOTH DISBURSEMENTS? THAT THIRD BULLET POINT.

TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR HOMELESSNESS FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE, WHICH WOULD LEAVE ANOTHER 2 MILLION.

AND IN THAT WAY, IF WE CAN USE IT FOR A CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, PERFECT.

IF NOT, THEN WE CAN FIND A DIFFERENT USE.

THAT'S ALL. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

OKAY, I. SO JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR.

ALL RIGHT. JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR HERE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TWO MILLIONS THAT WAS ELIGIBLE FROM OUR FIRST DISBURSEMENT.

RIGHT. CONCENTRATE THAT ON THESE AN INVITATION FOR SERVICES, RIGHT.

TO COVER THAT TIER TWO.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.

AND THEN THE BALANCE OF THE 5 MILLION THAT WE NEED FOR BUILDING.

OR THE 5.2 THAT WE NEED TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION OF BUILDING E IT IT IS ELIGIBLE SO I'D LIKE TO TRY AND GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED.

WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ALLOCATED FOR, CORRECT? BICKERSTAFF YEAH, I'VE ALREADY SET THAT ASIDE.

I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW ALONG.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

SO LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

SO LET ME GO BACK AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT WAS ALREADY.

APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

APOLOGIZE. IT'S KIND OF SMALL.

THERE'S ALREADY 2 MILLION APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR BUILDING E! THERE'S ALREADY 2 MILLION APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR THE CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

SO THIS IS ALL THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED.

NOW, IF WE FAST FORWARD TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THAT IS THE 50,000 FOR ENHANCED CLEANING, THE 2 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, AND THEN UNDER REVENUE LOSS.

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BUILDING E. ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THERE STILL IS A BALANCE OF 5 MILLION UNDER THE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE OF WHICH AFFORDABLE HOUSING HOMELESSNESS IS IS ELIGIBLE.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF ARPA, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS THAT CAME TO US FROM THAT CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC.

THE PURPOSE. THE REASON WHY HOMELESSNESS IS IS ELIGIBLE IS BECAUSE YOU ARE TAKING A VULNERABLE POPULATION OFF THE STREET WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC, HAD BEEN MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE PANDEMIC AND TO TO CATCHING COVID AND GETTING THEM OFF THE STREETS AND GETTING THEM BACK INTO STABLE AND PERMANENT HOUSING.

WHICH IS WHY I MENTIONED TIER THREE AS WELL, BECAUSE I'M BIG ON TIER TWO.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THE GROUND.

WE GOT TO GET TO THE ROOT OF IT, WHETHER IT'S DRUG OR MENTAL HEALTH.

BUT WE WANT TO GET TO THE FINAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY THAT.

MAYOR. SO I WASN'T TRYING TO SAY RULE OUT TIER TWO.

I WAS SAYING LIKE IT STARTS THERE, BUT WE WANT TO GET THEM PERMANENT.

OR COUNSEL. I'LL START ON.

AWESOME. FILIBERTO, I'LL START ON YOUR END.

MR. MAYOR, I'M STILL TRYING TO DIGEST ALL THIS.

SO IF YOU IF YOU WOULD IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STARTING OFF WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX.

GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN. FELIX.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD.

YOU KNOW, TOTALLY SUPPORT DEPUTY MAYOR'S PROPOSAL TO.

CONSIDER THAT AN ADDITIONAL 3 MILLION TOWARDS THOSE THREE TIER FOCUSING ON ON ON TIER TWO AS WELL AS TIER THREE, I BELIEVE AS MUCH AS WE NEED ALL THESE BUILDINGS.

FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE COME FIRST.

LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE.

THAT'S THE CARE THAT NEED THAT NEED, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT COMPONENT FIRST.

THESE ALL THE OTHER STUFF ARE THINGS THAT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO DO, TO PROVIDE SERVICE, TO DO WHAT WE DO.

BUT I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE COMPONENT THAT THAT SHOULD BE.

FIRST AND FOREMOST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I'M SORRY, GUYS. I'M.

I'M A LITTLE BIT.

KIND OF ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF YOUR THINKING.

WE DO NEED TO DO.

IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO DO ALL THREE.

NEED TO DO ALL THREE.

IF. YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST DO ONE, TWO AND THREE, THAT'S A CHAIR WITH JUST TWO LEGS.

AND. NORMALLY YOU DON'T STAND.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO DO ALL THREE GOING TO DO IT.

WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

AND TO HELP OUR CITIZENS HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

AS FAR AS WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID ABOUT THE CITYWIDE SYSTEM, WE NEED TO DO THAT.

AND AND I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO SET ASIDE SOME MONEY FOR OUR FIRE.

I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT GRANTS AND ALL THAT, BUT THAT FALLS SHORT.

WE DON'T. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE GOT TO HAVE A FIRE STATION.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE FIREFIGHTERS AND FIREFIGHTERS SERVICE HOMELESS PEOPLE.

TIME OF EMERGENCY.

THE FIRST ONE GOING TO GET TO THAT HOMELESS PERSON WHO'S HAVE IT IN CARDIAC ARREST.

SAVE THEIR LIVES.

PROBABLY GOING TO BE A CITY FIREFIGHTER.

SO. WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING ON HERE.

AND WE DON'T WE DON'T NEED TO CUT CORNERS.

SO EMERGENCY SHELTER IS IMPORTANT.

YOU CAN HAVE A.

NO, I'VE BEEN ACTUALLY, I THINK I'VE.

SOMEBODY CALLED ME TO HELP SOMEONE.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WOMEN BECOME HOMELESS DURING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

IT CANNOT GO BACK INTO A HOME WITH AN ABUSER.

I'VE BEEN TO THEM CALLS AS A POLICE OFFICER.

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AND AND I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S A PERSON WHO WORKED EVERY DAY.

IS IN A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION.

TO NOT GO BACK TO THAT HOUSE.

THE NEXT CALL COULD BE SOMEONE WHO'S MURDERED.

IT MIGHT NOT BE THE WOMAN.

IT MIGHT BE THE GUY. SO THEY MIGHT NEED TEMPORARY SHELTER, EMERGENCY SHELTER.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER FOR WOMEN THAT HAVE TO LEAVE OR MEN.

WOMEN HAVE TO LEAVE A HOME.

TO SAVE THEIR LIVES OR TO SAVE THEIR KID'S LIFE SO THAT WE GOT TO DO ALL THREE.

AND IF WE'VE GOT MONEY TO HAVE PUT SOMEBODY IN A HOTEL SO ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER COULD HELP HIM. GET OUT OF THE SITUATION.

WE GOT TO THINK OF THAT.

BECAUSE. OF FIREFIGHTERS RESPONDING TO THE HOUSE.

A POLICE OFFICER RESPONDED TO THAT.

THAT SITUATION IS COSTING US MONEY.

SO WE'VE GOT TO DO ALL THREE.

AND THAT'S WHERE MY MINDSET AND I AGREE WITH YOU, MAN, THE MENTAL HEALTH.

IT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT WE GOT TO THINK OF A SITUATION WHERE.

BUT SHE EMERGENCY ASSISTANT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WHEN I THINK OF EMERGENCY SYSTEM HOUSING I THINK OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

OKAY. AND SO WE GOT TO DO ALL THREE AND AND WE GOT TO WE GOT ONE OPPORTUNITY.

THIS MONEY IS NOT COMING BACK, I DON'T THINK.

IN MY LIFETIME I HOPE IT WILL COME BACK.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL.

I THINK WE GOT ONE SHOT AT THIS.

WE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

AND. AND IT'S CALLED.

LEADERSHIP AND THINKING DOWN THE ROAD.

SO. MY MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE SUSTAINABLE.

THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN IS CAN WE CONTINUE THIS TO GO BEYOND.

AND THE ONLY WAY WE COULD DO THIS IS GETTING NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO BE PARTNERED WITH US.

GET THIS DONE. WE CAN.

THE CITY CANNOT DO THIS ALONE.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY.

WE GOT TO HAVE NONPROFIT.

ORGANIZATION TO DO IT.

SO. SO I'M FOR DOING ALL THREE TIERS.

AND I'M FOR.

IF YOU GO COUNCILMAN FOSTER IF YOU GO TO PAGE TEN.

YOU. YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS PROPOSED, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST LIKE.

ONE DOWN. MORE.

AND I THINK IN ORDER TO DO ALL THREE, THEN.

THEN YOU CAN'T.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SAY ABOUT SEEING WAITING FOR US TO GET THAT FINANCIAL SYSTEM UPDATE.

RIGHT. THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU AS WELL.

AND WE'RE WE'RE FIGURING OUT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR THAT.

BUT I THINK THE WAY THEY HAVE IT PROPOSED HERE, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, PLAYING IT SAFE, WE SHOULD JUST STAY STAY WITHIN THOSE GUIDELINES.

WE ALREADY ALLOCATED $2 MILLION, RIGHT, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS TO GET IT STARTED.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, I THINK.

I THINK WE MAY BE WE MAY WANT TO COMPLICATE THINGS.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S PROPOSED IS MAY BE EASIER TO NAVIGATE AT THIS TIME.

COUNCILMAN. FILIBERTO, I LIKE FOR YOU TO TO WEIGH IN NOW.

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT HASN'T WEIGHED.

YES, SIR. AGAIN, I'M STILL DIGESTING THIS.

WE ORIGINALLY A COUNCIL ORIGINALLY APPROVED SOME OF THIS STUFF BEFORE I WAS HERE.

SO. SO I AM I'M COMING UP ON BOARD.

I MEAN, LIKE, JUST JUST BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A AS A NEED HERE.

I SEE IT AS MORE AS A WANT.

I MEAN, I, I WOULD HAVE DONE LIKE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHERE HAVE YOU.

BUT WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY ALLOCATED $2 MILLION TOWARDS BUILDING E HAS ALREADY BEEN EARMARKED.

SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I'M WILLING TO STICK TO WHATEVER STAFF THAT'S THAT TIER TWO AND THAT'S WHAT THE STAFF PROPOSAL TO FOLLOWING FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE OUR STAMPS ARE.

HEY, CARRY ON, DEPUTY MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOCATE 2 MILLION TO THE CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, DEPENDING

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ON U.S.

TREASURY OPINION ON GENERAL ELIGIBILITY.

5.5 MILLION $269,391.02 TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION OF BUILDING E.

50,000 TO ENHANCE CLEANING, SLASH COVID 19 PROTOCOLS, AND THE REMAINDER TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS.

ADDRESSING TIERS ONE, TWO AND THREE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

AND THE REASON WHY I DID IT THIS WAY, MAYOR.

ONE LIKE WE HEARD FROM OUR I.T.

DIRECTOR. HE DID A GREAT JOB IN THE PRESENTATION AND BEING THAT IF IT IS APPROVED, THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.

IF IT'S NOT, THEN THE 2 MILLION CAN GO TO SOMETHING ELSE.

WE'RE ADDRESSING THE REVENUE LOSS FOR BUILDING E 50,000 FOR ENHANCED CLEANING AND FOR HOMELESSNESS.

IF WE ALL LOOKED AT THE APPLICATIONS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE CASE MANAGEMENT AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, WHAT'S IN THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS WHAT WE SEE HERE IN AMERICA, PALM BAY ALL OVER IS AN ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WE, LIKE WE SAID, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACT ON IT.

AND WHY NOT? LET'S LET'S LET'S STEP OUT ON FAITH AND LET'S DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO HOLD BACK SOME OF THE FUNDS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS IS WHAT IT'S REALLY BEEN MEANT FOR, IT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

SO THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION THE WAY I MADE IT.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE TREASURY MAY SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T USE THE ON CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

THEN WE COME BACK HERE FOR THOSE 2 MILLION.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A PROACTIVE APPROACH ON ADDRESSING THIS.

SO THAT'S ALL. COUNCILMAN FELIX, YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN.

DEPUTY MAYOR. I DON'T THINK I CAN ADD ANYTHING TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

I THINK IT'S IT'S EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AGAIN. YOU KNOW, WE ALL WOULD AGREE THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK I WAS THE VERY FIRST ONE ON THIS DAIS THAT WANTED TO SEE MUCH MORE MONEY THAN WHAT ORIGINALLY WAS BEING PROPOSED.

THEY WERE STARTING AT 1 MILLION FOR FOUR FOR SERVICES.

AND I WENT TO TWO AND I WANTED MORE BECAUSE THIS IS.

ALL THREE TIER.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS.

IT'S NOT JUST THE QUESTION OF HOMELESSNESS, HOUSING, IT'S A NATIONAL CRISIS.

AND WE ARE WE'LL NEVER RESOLVE IT.

I JUST TAKING SMALL STEP.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

FIRE STATION IS SUPER IMPORTANT.

AS ARE THE MEANS AND OTHER WAYS TO FUND THAT BUILDING E.

MAYBE OTHER MEANS TO FUND IT.

LET'S LET'S REALLY TAKE CARE OF WHAT'S AT AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT PEOPLE.

LET'S PUT PEOPLE FIRST.

ALL THE OTHER SERVICES CAN COME.

LET'S PUT PEOPLE FIRST.

LET'S TAKE CARE OF IT ONCE AND FOR ALL.

IT'S THE RIGHT THING.

WELL, THE MOTION IS TO INCLUDE BUILDING E AND AND I THINK WITH THE WAY THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING NOW, THE THE PRICES, THE SUPPLY CHAIN.

SO I THINK A COMMITMENT TOWARDS THAT END GOES A LONG WAY IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF OF BUILDING THAT WAY THEY COULD START WORKING ON THOSE THOSE ISSUES TO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS RIGHT, IF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS ACCEPTED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.

OTHERWISE IT'S COMING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL OR DIFFERENT ALLOCATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S IN THE IN THE MOTION.

YES. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE WAS THE WEIGH IN? COUNCILMAN, FOSTER AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

YOUR MOTION INCLUDE ALL ALL THREE TIERS, RIGHT? OKAY, THAT'S ALL. WHEN FILIBERTO DOES SO.

THIS IS ALSO REMOVING THE THREE REMAINING 3.03 MILLION, GOING TO SUPPORT ALL THREE TIERS.

CORRECT? AND THERE.

THAT I'M SEEING THAT THIS WOULD LEAVE A BALANCE OF THREE OF 3 MILLION DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM OF UNCOMMITTED.

IT'LL LEAVE A BALANCE IS ZERO ZERO.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE GOT THE THREE BULLETS HERE AND THEN YOU ADDED A FOURTH BULLET FOR THAT ACTUAL EXTRA 3 MILLION TO GO TOWARDS ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

CORRECT. I'M SORRY.

DEPUTY MAYOR. I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

I CAN SUPPORT THE FIRST THREE BULLETS HERE.

THAT AND TIER TWO.

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I CAN'T SUPPORT THE 3.03 MILLION.

I SAID, SIR. OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES 4 TO 1.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I'M SORRY. I THINK JONAH'S MENTIONING WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO TAKE CARE OF ON THE.

THE AGENDA ITEM HERE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL IS AWARE OR THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION NECESSARY FOR THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT THIS OUT AS A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS SO EVERYONE KNOWS AND WE'LL PUT IT OUT FOR THE FULL AMOUNT AND WE WILL INCLUDE A SCOPE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ALL THREE TIERS AND THE APPLICATIONS WILL COME BACK.

WE TREAT IT VERY SIMILAR TO.

SO THIS IS FEDERAL FUNDING WILL TREAT IT VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE HAVE.

CDBG SO WE'LL DO THIS AS AN A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS.

ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A CALL FOR APPLICATIONS.

NOW AS PART OF THAT, I'M GLAD YOU BRING THAT UP.

SO HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GOING TO GO TO TIER TWO AND THEN SPLIT UP? IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THE MOTION? ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PUT IT OUT AND ASK THEM TO SEND TO US WHAT THEY WOULD PROPOSE THE USE BE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM.

AND NATALIE SHAPER, OUR ENGINEER FROM PUBLIC WORKS, HAS PATIENTLY WAITED FOR THIS ITEM.

I APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS OUR SORT OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTING THE BUILD HEIGHT OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON SCATTERED LOTS IN THE CITY.

YES. AND NATALIE'S HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH AND IS PREPARED TO HELP SORT OF EXPLAIN WHY THAT SITUATION HAS OCCURRED.

THERE'S A VARIETY OF FACTORS, BUT.

THANK YOU. I MEAN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THAT IS ACCURATE.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO CONVEY TO YOU THAT THE CITY HAS VERY LITTLE CONTROL, ACTUALLY, OVER THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATIONS OF SCATTERED LOT HOMES.

AND THE PRESENTATION WILL GO THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF THE REGULATIONS THAT GOVERN THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION, WHICH IS PART OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEM OR ONSITE SEWAGE TREATMENT DISPOSAL SYSTEM, AS IT'S OFFICIALLY CALLED.

HOW THE REGULATION IS WORKED INTO THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE JURISDICTION AND WHAT WE HERE AT THE CITY AND ENGINEERING HAS TRIED TO DO TO SORT OF CAP THAT FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION WHEN WHEN WE FOOLISHLY FELT THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT QUITE AS WE HAD PLANNED.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH QUICKLY THE AGENCIES HAVING JURISDICTION.

SO IN 2021, THE FDP BECAME RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE FLORIDA STATUTES AND REGULATIONS AFFECTING SEPTIC SYSTEM DESIGN.

PRIOR TO 2021, IT WAS THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

AND ALSO IN 2020, PRIOR TO THE DPI BECOMING RESPONSIBLE, THE FLORIDA'S CLEAN WATERWAYS ACT WAS PROMULGATED BY AND SIGNED BY GOVERNOR DESANTIS.

AND UNDER THAT ACT, THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENTS WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THE PERMITTING AND INSPECTION FOR SEPTIC TANKS.

AND IN OUR CASE, OF COURSE, IT'S BREVARD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

SO WE HAVE DEP WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GROUNDWATER QUALITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND THE CLEAN WATERWAYS ACT HAS BROUGHT ABOUT THE FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE 60 2-6, FHC.

AND WHICH IS PART OF THE PERMITTING REGULATION PROCESS.

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AND. 62.

6.06. PART TWO PARENTAL TO WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY CHAPTER 64.

E SIX SAYS THAT.

THE WATER TABLE ELEVATION OF THE WETTEST SEASON OF THE YEAR IS AT LEAST 24 INCHES BELOW THE BOTTOM SURFACE OF A DRAIN FIELD.

SO IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, OUR WATER TABLE IS VERY HIGH.

YOU GUYS PROBABLY LOOK AROUND AND YOU SEE LOTS OF LOTS OF WETLANDS AND VERY SELDOM DO YOU SEE DRY PONDS.

WHAT YOU SEE ARE A LOT OF WET PONDS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT IN MAYBE THE CENTER OF THE STATE WHERE THERE WILL BE MORE DRY PONDS BECAUSE THE WATER TABLE IS A LOT LOWER IN THE CENTER OF THE STATE.

SO WE HAVE A WET SEASON WATER TABLE THAT'S TYPICALLY 1 TO 2 FEET BELOW NATURAL GRADE.

SO PER THAT THAT RULE THAT I JUST MENTIONED, 62 60064 AND TO THE BOTTOM OF A SEPTIC DRAIN FIELD COULD BE AT OR ONE FOOT ABOVE NATURAL GRADE.

THIS. HERE IS A SAMPLE SEPTIC PERMIT AND.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE SLIDES IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T SEE THAT.

BUT THERE'S A LITTLE GREEN CHECKMARK AND A HIGHLIGHTED PORTION THERE, AND THAT PART OF THE PERMIT IS THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAIN FIELD.

AND THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAIN FIELD IS 25 INCHES ABOVE A CERTAIN REFERENCE POINT.

AND THE REFERENCE POINT IS A BENCHMARK ON THE ROADWAY.

AND HOW THAT'S CALCULATED IS THE THE REFERENCE POINT IS THE POINT ON THE ROADWAY.

IT'S, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A FIXED REFERENCE POINT.

AND FROM THAT.

OOPS. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHERE I WANT TO GO QUITE YET.

ACTUALLY, THIS THIS WILL PROBABLY HELP OUT THIS DIAGRAM HERE.

WHEN YOU HAVE THAT FIXED REFERENCE POINT ON THE SEPTIC PERMIT, THE NEXT STEP THAT YOU GO TO, THE NEXT BIT OF MATH THAT YOU GO TO IS HOW HIGH ABOVE THAT REFERENCE POINT IS NATURAL GRADE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES NATURAL GRADE IS IS RIGHT AT THAT REFERENCE POINT.

SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, A FOOT OR TWO ABOVE.

IT JUST DEPENDS.

SO ONCE YOU DETERMINE YOUR NATURAL GRADE AND YOU ALSO KNOW FROM YOUR SEPTIC PERMIT WHERE THE SEASONAL LOW WHERE THEY THINK YOU.

THAT'S FINE. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, FROM YOUR ASEPTIC PERMIT WHERE THE SEASONAL HIGH WATER TABLE IS OR THE WET SEASON WATER TABLE.

YOU THEN GO.

YOU TAKE YOUR NATURAL GRADE AND YOU SAY, OKAY, WELL, IT'S MAYBE MAYBE IT'S 11 INCHES BELOW NATURAL GRADE.

SO YOU'RE NOW AT THE WET SEASON WATER TABLE AND NOW YOU'RE THE BOTTOM OF A SEPTIC DRAIN.

FIELD HAS TO BE TWO FEET ABOVE THAT, WHICH NOW BRINGS IT TO ONE FOOT, ONE INCH, BASICALLY ABOVE NATURAL GRADE. SO THE BOTTOM OF A SEPTIC DRAIN FIELD ALMOST TYPICALLY IN PALM BAY IS A ONE FOOT OR MORE ABOVE NATURAL GRADE.

AND THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE RULE THAT PROTECTS GROUNDWATER RESOURCES, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATION OF TWO FEET BETWEEN THE WET SEASON TABLE.

AND THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAIN FIELD.

SO NOW WE HAVE THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAIN FIELD.

WHICH IN THIS LITTLE DIAGRAM AND THE SKETCH THAT THAT BOTH RECTANGLES REPRESENT DRAIN FIELDS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE HEIGHT OF A DRAIN FIELD IS TYPICALLY ONE FOOT, SO THE DRAIN FIELD IS NOW ONE FOOT ABOVE NATURAL GRADE.

THE HEIGHT OF THE DRAIN FIELD IS NOW ONE FOOT MORE.

SO NOW WE'RE AT TWO FEET ABOVE NATURAL GRADE.

WE ADD HALF A FOOT OF COVER BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICAL.

SO WE'RE NOW TWO AND ONE HALF FEET ABOVE NATURAL GRADE, AND THAT'S THE TOP OF YOUR SEPTIC FIELD.

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NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED PLUMBER'S FALL AND THAT'S TYPICALLY 20 INCHES.

SO NOW WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 1.67 OR 1.7 FEET ABOVE.

UH, THE DRAIN FIELDS.

SO WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP, A NEW HOME FINISHED FLOOR COULD EASILY BE TYPICALLY BE 4.17 TO 5.17 FEET ABOVE NATURAL GRADE OAK.

SO. THAT'S WHEN THINGS ARE DONE, RIGHT.

TYPICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HIGH HOMES IN FLORIDA.

WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS IS WHEN WELL, HOW COME THAT HOUSE IS SO MUCH HIGHER THAN THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR? SO THE PROBLEM THERE COMES IN WITH NOT JUST THE REGULATORY THAT THAT GOVERNS WHERE THE FINISHED WELL THE GOVERNANCE WHERE THE DRAIN FIELD IS GOING TO BE AND WHERE THE FINISHED FLOOR IS GOING TO BE.

BUT NOW WE INTRODUCE HUMAN ERROR BECAUSE WE HAVE A DESIGN ENGINEER, WE HAVE A SURVEYOR, WE HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM INSTALLER, AND WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR.

AND AT EACH POINT ALONG THE WAY, THEY MAY NEVER SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.

AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SAME PLAN TO, TO DESIGN A DRAIN FIELD TO BE PERMITTED BY THE THE BREVARD COUNTY DRAINAGE AND.

HONESTLY, THEY SELDOM SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.

SO WE COULD HAVE.

ERRORS INTRODUCED WITH THE REFERENCE POINTS OR BENCHMARKS THAT I SPOKE OF.

IF TWO HOMES ARE USING VERY DIFFERENT BENCHMARKS.

I'VE SEEN EXAMPLES WHERE THEY'RE A FOOT APART.

THE ONE WITH A HIGHER BENCHMARK IS MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO END UP THE HIGHER HOUSE AND THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, AND THAT'S WHEN WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS. ADD TO THAT, WE HAVE THESE LITTLE DATA MISUSE.

SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH DAYTIMES, THEY ARE A VERTICAL DISTANCE ABOVE A CERTAIN POINT ON THE EARTH.

WELL, IN 1929, THERE WAS INDEED THE NATIONAL GEODETIC VERTICAL DATUM, AND THAT WAS THE RULING DATUM WHEN GDC, OUR WONDERFUL GENERAL DEVELOPMENT CORPS THAT DESIGNED THE CITY OF PALM BAY CAME ABOUT.

AND FOR YEARS THE CITY HAS USED A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT CORPS 1960S PLANS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DID DESIGN THE ENTIRE CITY AND THEY DESIGNED IT IN THAT DATUM.

THE STANDARD USED TODAY IS NO LONGER AND GVHD.

29 NOW IT'S A NORTH AMERICAN VERTICAL DATUM 1988.

AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AVERAGES AT ABOUT 1.4 FEET IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO IF ANY ONE OF THOSE.

HUMANS. THE ENGINEER, THE SURVEYOR, THE SEPTIC SYSTEM INSTALLER ARE THE CONTRACTOR.

BUILDER GETS THEIR DAYTIMES MIXED UP.

WE COULD HAVE 1.4 FEET COMPOUNDED ONE WAY.

WE COULD HAVE IT GO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND IT AND YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW OFTEN IT HAPPENS.

I MEAN, I SEE IT NOT JUST IN THIS REALM BUT IN THE REALM OF DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND YOU KNOW, THESE ARE HIGH TICKET PROJECTS WHERE DATA BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT AND REALLY CAN TOTALLY MESS A PROJECT UP IN TERMS OF ELEVATION.

SO IF THE WRONG DATUM IS ASSUMED BY EITHER THE ENGINEER OR THE SURVEYOR OR CONSTRUCTED BY EITHER CONTRACTOR, THE ERROR WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 1.4 FEET.

THE ERROR WAS MADE BY ONLY ONE OF THOSE CONTRIBUTORS.

WELL, I DID IT AGAIN.

I RECENTLY CAME ACROSS, I, I HAVEN'T BEEN REVIEWING THESE FOR VERY LONG, SO I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FULL RANGE OF WHAT COULD GO WRONG.

AND IT APPEARS THAT IF IT CAN GO WRONG, IT WILL.

I CAME ACROSS ONE WHERE.

TWO ROOMS WERE SIDE BY SIDE.

ONE HOME ON THEIR SEPTIC PERMIT.

THEIR NATURAL THE NATURAL GROUND WAS 18 INCHES ABOVE THE REFERENCE POINT.

SO A FOOT AND A HALF ABOVE THE REFERENCE POINT.

AND THEIR REFERENCE POINT, I BELIEVE WAS LIKE 24 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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AND MAYBE TWO DOORS DOWN SOMEHOW ON THE ON THE PERMIT, THAT HOME WAS ONLY ONE INCH ABOVE THE REFERENCE POINT.

SOMEBODY CLEARLY MADE A MISTAKE AND THE ONLY WAY TO DETERMINE HOW THAT MISTAKE WAS OR WHO MADE THE MISTAKE, WHO'S RIGHT IS TO GO OUT AND SURVEY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.

THESE WERE TWO SEPARATE PERMITS THAT WERE REVIEWED BY TWO SEPARATE REVIEWERS IN THE COUNTY D.A., WHICH THEY DIDN'T YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF ONE PERSON WAS ASSIGNED TO AN AREA AND MORE FAMILIAR, THAT KIND OF THING, THEY COULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT KIND OF ERROR, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

SO NOW WE HAVE YET ANOTHER HUMAN FACTOR.

NOW WE HAVE A REVIEWER WHO DOESN'T CATCH ERRORS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR STAFF IS OR IS PERFECT.

THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE.

BUT I'M SURE THAT EVERY NOW AND AGAIN THEY MAKE ERRORS AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE JUST SO MANY PLACES TO MAKE THESE ELEVATION ERRORS.

ADD TO A FLORIDA STATUTE THAT IS IS AIMED AT PROTECTING GROUNDWATER RESOURCES.

AND WE HAVE NATURALLY HIGH HOMES, CASTLES ON THE HILL AND THEN SOME THAT JUST LOOK WAY OUT OF WHACK BECAUSE SOMEBODY MADE A MISTAKE.

SO YOU MIGHT ASK, YOU KNOW, SO CAN WE, THE CITY, REGULATE THE FINISHED FLOOR? AND AS I SAID, WE WE HAVE TRIED.

WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, IF THIS IS THE ISSUE WITH SEPTIC PERMITS, THEN CLEARLY IF THERE'S MUNICIPAL SANITARY SEWER AVAILABLE, THEN WE CAN CAP THAT FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION.

WE WERE FOOLISHLY OPTIMISTIC BECAUSE WHERE THERE'S MUNICIPAL SANITARY SEWER TODAY THERE WAS ONCE SEPTIC, SO THEIR HOUSES BUILT ON A HILL AND A NEW HOUSE COMING IN THAT'S CAPPED TWO FEET ABOVE THE CROWN OF ROAD.

THAT COULD BE.

TO THREE FEET BELOW THE EXISTING HOUSE, WHICH IS AGAIN AGAINST A CITY ORDINANCE.

SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THE CITY BECAUSE AT SOME POINT EVERY HOUSE WAS ON SEPTIC AND AN EVERY FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION WAS BASED ON A VERY HIGH WATER TABLE AND A SEPARATION FROM THAT VERY HIGH WATER TABLE.

SO WHAT CAN WE SUGGEST? AND WE HAVE WE HAVE A FEW OF THEM, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE THE GREATEST CONTROL OVER.

WE COULD GET INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.

ACTUALLY, THE DATUM IS ABOUT TO CHANGE AGAIN, FROM WHAT I HEAR.

BUT BUT WE COULD USE THE DATUM THAT EVERYBODY'S USING SO THAT WE AT LEAST ELIMINATE THAT ERROR AND SWITCH TO NAV 88. THERE ARE SOME DRAWBACKS TO THAT BECAUSE AS I SAID, OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED BY GDC AND IT'S AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AND WE'D HAVE TO GET THE ENTIRE THING CONVERTED AND THAT'LL TAKE SOME DOING AND SOME MANPOWER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.

SO THAT'S THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SUFFICIENT SURVEY AND REVIEW STAFF TO CATCH SURVEY AND ENGINEERING ERRORS, BUT THAT'S ONLY ON OUR END. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE SORT OF FORENSICS ON SOME OF THESE AFTER THE FACT WHEN TWO HOMES, YOU KNOW, ARE BUILT LIKE THAT.

BUT BY BY THE TIME THE HOME IS BUILT, IT'S TOO LATE.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE REALIZE HERE THAT THE SURVEYOR WAS WORKING IN 29 AND THE BUILDER WAS WORKING IN 88.

BUT IF IT'S IF THE BUILDERS WORK WORKING IN A DIFFERENT DATUM, WELL, HE'S BUILDING AND WE'RE NOT THERE SO THAT THAT ERROR IS JUST GOING TO GOING TO HAPPEN WITH NOBODY THERE.

SO WE COULD HAVE STAFF TO SORT OF MONITOR A BIT IN THE FIELD.

IF THAT WERE AT ALL POSSIBLE, THEN REGARDING THE SEPTIC SYSTEM REGULATION, WE COULD ENFORCE HOOKUP WHERE SANITARY SEWER IS AVAILABLE.

BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WILL STILL RUN INTO WHERE THERE IS SEWER AVAILABLE.

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THERE WERE HOMES BUILT ON SEPTIC.

BUT IT IS STILL A POSSIBILITY.

AND THEN THERE ARE GRANDS SORREL.

SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON OFFERS GRANT FUNDING FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSION.

WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND SEE.

AND AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THAT THAT PROBLEM.

AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO STEP SYSTEMS WHICH HAVE BEEN USED SUCCESSFULLY IN OTHER COUNTIES.

VERO BEING ONE OF THEM.

AND THEY ARE A LESS EXPENSIVE ALTERNATIVE TO HOOKING UP TO TO EXISTING SEWER. THAT IS ALL I HAD TO PRESENT AT 11:00 TONIGHT.

AND I HOPE YOU'RE STILL AWAKE.

SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

WHEN WHEN IS THE NEW DATA OUT OR DID YOU SAY IT'S ALREADY UP? I UNDERSTAND FROM MY SURVEYING COLLEAGUES THAT THERE IS A NEW DATUM COMING, BUT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTED DATE.

HONESTLY, I THINK IF WE SWITCH TO NAV 88, WE'D BE PRETTY SAFE FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY UP TO FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE IT JUST IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO MAKE THAT KIND OF CHANGE AND FOR IT TO BE TO BECOME A STANDARD.

SO. BUT THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST ME THINKING AND BASED ON, LIKE I SAID, MY MY SURVEYING COLLEAGUES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN WOULD IT WOULD IT HELP, AS YOU MENTIONED, BEING ONE OF THE POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO JUST CONVERT TO ONE SYSTEM INSTEAD OF HAVING USING TWO? I COULDN'T IMAGINE WE'RE STILL USING, YOU KNOW, GDC.

YEAH. ANYTHING ALL RIGHT? YEAH, IT WILL ELIMINATE.

I THINK WE. IF THAT WOULD HELP SOMEWHAT.

I MEAN, WE SHOULD CONSIDER DOING THAT NOW.

YEAH. YEAH. NO, I HEAR YOU.

COUNCILMAN. FELIX.

YOU KNOW, TO THAT END, SHE SAID IT WOULD BE A MONUMENTAL TASK, IS WHAT I HEARD.

IS THAT. WELL, MONUMENTAL WITH CURRENT STAFFING.

YES. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD OUTSIDE HELP, WHAT IT WOULD WHAT IT WOULD ENTAIL IS HAVING OUR OUR CURRENT PLANS, WHICH ARE PDFS, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUT.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS OUR PLANS ARE IN AUTOCAD, OUR REVIEWERS AND DRIVEWAY AND DRAINAGE.

ONE OF THEM IS IS CAD SAVVY AND SHE'S UPDATING THE OUR CAD AS AS THE PERMITS ARE ISSUED SO THAT CAD FILE THAT WE HAVE AT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO BE CONVERTED.

UM, IT'S, IT'S FOR, FOR A COMPANY OR CONSULTANT THAT HAS THE RESOURCES, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE A HUGE TASK FOR US THAT THE CITY. IT WOULD BE.

SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OPTION AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE.

BUT WHAT PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, THOUGH, COUNCILMAN FELIX, IS TO DO THAT SURVEY STAFF TO MONITOR CONSTRUCTION IN THE FIELD ON A WEEKLY BASIS? YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE TAXING AS WELL.

RIGHT. YEAH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS WHOLE RECOMMENDATION IS A SOLUTION.

AND TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, WE'RE REALLY GOT TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT, BECAUSE IF THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN CONTROL AS AS A CITY, THEN I, I GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR? I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH THE COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

AND YOU, MR. MAYOR, I DID WANT TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE DATUM.

SO IF A HOUSE WAS BUILT USING A.

AND GVHD.

29 AND HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS BUILT USING ENVY NAVEED 88.

IS THERE GOING TO BE A DIFFERENCE IN ELEVATION THERE? NO. NO.

ALL RIGHT. THE ISSUE IS, WHEN ON ON THE SAME DESIGN TEAM, THERE IS A SURVEYOR WHO MAY BE USING END GVHD 29 AND MAY NEGLECT TO PUT THAT ON HIS PLAN.

AND THERE'S A DESIGN ENGINEER WHO IS USING NAV 88 AND NOT SEEING ENGAGED

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29 ON THE SURVEYOR'S PLAN MAKES AN ASSUMPTION AN INCORRECT ONE.

SO HE THINKS THE SITE IS 1.4 FEET HIGHER BECAUSE NGV 29 IS A HIGHER DATUM.

GOTCHA. SO THEY'RE BASICALLY USING TWO DIFFERENT MAPS.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

SO YOU END UP SO THEY'RE ON THE SAME TEAM BUILDING, THE SAME HOUSE, BUT THEY'RE NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER VERY WELL AND MAYBE NOT DOCUMENTING THEIR STUFF VERY WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A RUSH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO THIS ENFORCED HOOKUP WHERE SANITARY SEWERS AVAILABLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD SUPPORT THAT FOR TWO SEWER CONVERSIONS, BUT I KIND OF ASSUME THAT COUNCIL ENCOURAGES THAT TO BEGIN WITH WITH ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT, EVEN IF IT'S A NEW, NEW HOUSE. SO, I MEAN, WE'RE KIND OF ALREADY DOING THAT, BUT I'M OKAY WITH ALL THIS HERE.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR RESEARCH.

I KNOW THIS TOOK A LOT OF TIME.

YOU'RE WELCOME. WELL, IT WAS MY PLEASURE.

IT MIGHT. YOU SPEAK TO THE STEP SYSTEM? VERY QUICKLY, VERY BRIEFLY.

DEFINITELY NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT.

IT'S A LITTLE WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF AN EXPERT ON THAT, RIGHT? PROBABLY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE STEP SYSTEM IS BASICALLY A SMALL PUMP THAT'S USED AS A PRIVATE LIFT STATION AND IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE THAN ACTUAL HOOK UP TO TO THE SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH I UNDERSTAND COSTS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TEN AND $12,000. A STEP SYSTEM IS LESS EXPENSIVE.

SO I CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE, BUT I KNOW IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE.

MM HMM. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANYTHING WE SAID.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR.

AS YOU GO VETTING.

THANK YOU. HOLD MY FIRE.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

QUESTIONS WERE ACTUALLY ANSWERED BECAUSE I SEE IT JUST LIKE YOU SEE IT.

THE DIFFERENCE IN ELEVATION FROM HOUSE SIDE BY SIDE WHAT WAS CAUSING THE PROBLEM? AND IF THAT'S WHAT BASICALLY IT SOUNDS TO ME MORE LIKE, IT'S JUST HUMAN HUMAN DECISION MAKING THAT'S CAUSING THE PROBLEM.

AND THERE WAS NO STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO USE ONE THING LIKE CROWN OF THE ROAD TWO FEET ABOVE.

THAT'S IT WOULD HAVE MADE SENSE.

BUT WHEN YOU START DOING OTHER OTHER CALCULATIONS THAT THAT'S COMING IN THERE OR LIKE WHEN I MOVED HERE MORE THAN A WEEK AGO, THE.

IT WAS DETERMINED YOU DID A PROTOCOL.

YOU SAW WHERE THE WATER TABLE WAS, WHICH IT CONSIDERED DRY SEASON, WET SEASON.

AND NOW IT ELEVATED TO HOW MUCH YOU HAD TO BRING IN TO RAISE THE SAME CALCULATIONS.

BUT NOW IT'S ONE CROWN OF THE ROAD OR FROM FROM A BENCHMARK DATUM.

AND THEN FROM THERE IS. THERE'S NO CONSISTENT.

SET A PLAN THAT WOULD MAKE IT WORK.

AND NOW, LIKE THE REASON I PUT THIS ACTION IN IT WAS, WELL, WHAT ACTION WAS THE CITY GOING TO DO? BUT I CAN'T SEE ANY ACTION THAT THE CITY CAN DO IN FIGHTING THIS, TO BE HONEST.

IT'S NOT WHEN YOU'RE HAVING OUTSIDE AGENCIES ARE DOING THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING THE PERMITTING CALL.

THE ONLY THING I COULD SEE IS IF HOPEFULLY OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS, WHEN THEY SEE THAT THE ELEVATION IS GETTING HIGHER, THEY START QUESTIONING IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, IF THEY COULD SEE SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING, JUST LOOKED RIDICULOUSLY OUT OF PROPORTION COMPARED TO EVERYBODY ELSE AND THEY COULD QUESTION IT.

BUT NOW I'M SEEING MORE OF THE FINISHED HOMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY SETTING THE NORM OF BEING FIVE FEET IN A LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREETS.

SO IT JUST MAKES ME PERSONALLY IT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS WHEN YOU ELEVATE 90% OF YOUR PROPERTY.

WHAT WAS ELEVATED ABOVE GREAT FLOOD PLAIN IS NOW BELOW FLOOD PLAIN.

JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE ELEVATED SO MUCH OF YOUR PROPERTY AROUND, YOU CAN ELEVATE 90% OF YOUR PROPERTY, BUT YOU PUT A BIGGER DITCH.

AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT 90% OF IT'S GOING TO CLEAR UNTIL THE WATER IS GONE.

OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY CITY ACTION THAT YOU CAN TAKE.

SO COUNCIL.

MY QUESTION IS, DO WE GO TO THE THE UPDATED DATUM? WE GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

I'M SURE. YES.

I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND IF IF COUNCIL IS AGREEABLE TO THAT, WE CAN JUST TAKE CONSENSUS.

WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE COSTS OF DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW YET.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE CAN CONTROL A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

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BUT TO NATALIE'S POINT, WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE INTERNAL CAPACITY BECAUSE WE'RE THROWING ALL AVAILABLE RESOURCES AT PROCESSING THE PERMITS RIGHT NOW AND ALL THE WORK.

SO WHICH IS WAS A CONCERN.

RIGHT, THAT TO MONITOR ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

AND WE YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CERTAINLY DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HAVE STAFF IN THE FIELD.

WEEKLY MONITORING CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE A TEAM OF SURVEY NOT I'M SORRY SURVEYORS INSPECTORS.

BUT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO IS TREMENDOUS ALREADY.

SO WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO, AT A MINIMUM, DOUBLE OUR EXISTING STAFF AND THAT WOULD BE A GENERAL FUND RESOURCE ALLOCATION.

MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY. AND THE SAME.

AND THE SAME. YES, SIR.

1/2. AND THE SAME WITH THE NEW DATA.

IS THAT CORRECT? WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, BUT THERE WOULD BE AN EXPENSE.

I EXPECT THERE TO BE AN EXPENSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE INTERNAL STAFF TIME.

SO I'D HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY ON THE OUTSIDE TO DO THAT.

AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT COST.

COPY THAT, MA'AM. YES, SIR.

COUNCILMAN PHILIP BYRD.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE SURVEYING PART, I MEAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE BUILDING STAFF WE'RE HAVING, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME STAFF OUT THERE THAT ARE TECHNICALLY SURVEYING ALL PALM BAY AND THAT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THIS, BUT IF THEY SEE SOMETHING FUNNY, THEY CAN REPORT THE BUILDING OR THEY CAN REPORT TO US OR THEY CAN REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE THERE.

AND ALSO, I JUST WANT TO MENTION WITH A RESIDENT OR RESIDENT, SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEY SHOULD SAY SOMETHING TO COUNCIL OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND IT GOES WITH THE COUNCILMAN HERE, TOO.

I MEAN, I'M DRIVING AROUND AND I'M LOOKING AROUND.

I SEE SOMETHING FUNNY.

I REPORTED IT, YOU KNOW, I BRING IT HERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO ADD THOSE NOTES, SIR.

I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

SO I THINK IF WE COULD JUST LOOK AT THAT DATUM.

YOU KNOW, TO WORK IN THAT EFFORT.

UNDERSTANDING THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, A MONUMENTAL TASK FINANCIALLY.

RIGHT. AT LEAST THAT.

BUT AT LEAST IF WE COULD GET A PICTURE REGARDING THAT, I'D ALSO LIKE TO STATE I LIKE TO GET BUTCH THIS THIS PRESENTATION.

WE COULD SEND THAT TO HIM, BUTCH DURANT, SO THAT HE KNOWS WE'RE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND MAYBE AN OVERVIEW OF OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND WHAT THE ISSUES IS AND THE LACK OF CONTROL THAT WE DO HAVE.

WELL, SEEING THAT WELL, YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS.

SO I'LL WE'LL GO RIGHT ON TO COUNCIL REPORTS AND I'LL START WITH MR. FILIBERTO. THANK YOU, MR.

[COUNCIL REPORTS]

MAYOR. JUST, JUST WANT TO REPORT ON THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM.

FLORIDA AVENUE IS COMPLETE, DRISCOLL HEIGHTS COMPLETE.

FAIRVIEW IS WRAPPING UP RIGHT NOW.

UNIT 20 IS NEXT ON THE LIST.

I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE ACCOLADES TO THE SCHOOL BUS DRIVER BY THE NAME OF MISS JANET.

AS MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW, THERE WAS A SCHOOL BUS FIRE IN PALM BAY HERE.

MS.. JANET WAS ABLE TO RESCUE ALL 40 KIDS OFF THAT SCHOOL BUS AS THAT SCHOOL BUS WAS ENGULFED IN FLAMES ONE DAY.

I ALSO GIVE COMMENTS AND KUDOS TO PALM BAY FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO PUT THAT FIRE OUT AND ASSISTED WITH THE HEROIC EFFORTS ALONG WITH MS..

JANICE MALONE THAT NO REPORTS, SIR.

SO COUNCILMAN FELIX, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD RECOGNIZE MISS JANICE WRIGHT, THE SCHOOL BUS DRIVER, MAYBE SEND, WHAT DO YOU THINK, A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO THANK HER FOR HER SERVICES.

REALLY? MAYBE EVEN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND GIVE HER A CHALLENGE COIN THAT THE MAYOR PROVIDES THAT HIS COST, NOT THE TAXPAYERS.

SO PERHAPS WE COULD DO THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. IS THAT GOOD WITH COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT. OUTSTANDING MAN.

IF WE COULD GET THAT DONE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

COUNCILMAN FELIX FOR MY TIME.

I'LL BE THAT, SIR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I WOULD LIKE TO.

IT CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL.

OR LOOKING AT.

THE CITY MANAGER LOOKING INTO.

HAVING A SURVEY OR A DONE FOR SOLAR.

SOLAR ENERGY FOR THE CITY BUILDINGS ON THIS CAMPUS I RECENTLY PURCHASED.

SOLAR PANELS FOR MY HOME.

BACK IN JANUARY THIS YEAR.

LOOKED AT MY BILL FROM AUGUST TO THIS PRESENT MOMENT, AND I DONATED $1,400 TO THE PAL FOR THIS LAST MONTH.

MY ENERGY BILL WENT FROM 170 TO $172.

RIGHT. TO $27.

AND I GAVE BACK TO THE GRID 121 KILOWATTS AND CREDIT.

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AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, SO NEXT MONTH MY FP BILL SHOULD BE ZERO BECAUSE I PRODUCE OVER 415 KILOWATTS LAST MONTH AND I'M PROBABLY PROJECTED TO DO MORE.

SO WHEN I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, I SEE THAT SUN.

I'M THANKING GOD FOR SAVING ME MONEY EVERY DAY.

SO AND I THINK HE COULD SAVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY SOME MONEY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE PAY FOR ELECTRIC BILL.

I KNOW WE. WE JUST WENT UP TONIGHT IN THIS BUILDING.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A COST, I DON'T THINK IT'S A CAUSE.

IF WE COULD IF THE CITY PROCUREMENT COULD FIND SOME SOLAR PANEL SOLAR COMPANIES JUST TO GIVE US WHAT WOULD IT COST? WOULD WE SAVE MONEY IF WE GET A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT? I THINK THEY WOULD DO THAT FOR FREE.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COST ANALYSIS.

YES. DIRECTING THE.

YEAH, I'M I'M I'M GO WITH THAT.

I JUST WANT TO SEE BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

IF WE HAVE MONEY LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR AT THE AFTER WE PASS OUR BUDGET, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT MIGHT COULD SAVE SOME CITY.

WE MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE AN ITEM THAT WE WANT TO SPEND IT ON.

DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO COST TO GET THEM PANELS.

I'M NOT SAYING SPEND THE MONEY NOW.

I'M SAYING HAVE A COST ANALYSIS AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD DECIDE IN THE FUTURE, DO WE WANT TO GO THAT WAY OR NOT? SO I THINK YOU HAVE CONSENSUS.

TO THAT END, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WERE UP IN TALLAHASSEE THAT HAD PASSED.

NOW, DID THE GOVERNOR VETO THAT? SO THE GOVERNOR DID THE RIGHT THING? YES, SIR. OKAY.

JUST ONE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

YEAH. I KNOW YOU'RE WITH ME.

I KNOW YOU WERE.

YOU'RE HERE FOR ME. I'M PROMOTING RON DESANTIS.

I'LL BE THAT, SIR. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORTS, MR. FOSTER? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A REMINDER THAT SPACE SCHOOLS LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS THE SCHOLARSHIP OPEN UNTIL JUNE.

SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MONTH TO APPLY SUBMIT.

DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS OPPORTUNITY.

ASIDE FROM THAT, WE'RE SEEING THAT MR. ELON MUSK IS TRYING TO MOVE TWITTER HEADQUARTERS OVER TO THIS AREA.

SO I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO WRITE ANOTHER LETTER, MAYOR, YOU KNOW, SAYING, HEY, COME ON DOWN TO THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BECAUSE SPACE X IS ALREADY HERE.

SO WHY NOT STAY? WHY NOT BE IN BREVARD COUNTY? WE'LL ROLL OUT THE WELCOME MAT AND GET YOU HERE.

SO YEAH. SO YEAH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S 1/2 THING.

LASTLY, WE SAW A PRIME EXAMPLE TODAY OF WHY CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND THE CITY OF TITUSVILLE HAS IT IN THEIR ORDINANCE, WHERE WITH US WE ONLY HAVE IT FOR THREE THINGS.

BUT CITY OF TITUSVILLE HAS IT WHERE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETINGS ARE REQUIRED FOR EVERY APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT OR LAND USE CHANGE, REZONING, MASTERPLAN OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO I WOULD LIKE CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL TO WORK WITH STAFF ON SOMETHING SIMILAR OR THE SAME WITH THAT.

OKAY. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

YOU GOT? YOU HAVE? YEAH, I'M AS WELL.

YEAH, WE. YOU GOT A UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF IT.

BUT CARRY ON, SIR.

THAT'S IT. SO, SO, FIRST OF ALL, ON THE MY REPORTS, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS.

YES, I HAVE WRITTEN TO.

TO ELON MUSK.

BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT, AND I WANT TO GET COUNSEL'S CONSENSUS ON THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO BOMBARDIER.

RIGHT. I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE THAT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

RIGHT. I KNOW.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAYS HE SEES ALL THESE VEHICLES GOING AROUND WITH AMAZON ON THEM AND AND THEY THEY COME FROM MELBOURNE.

SO I WANTED TO OPEN UP.

SEND HIM A LETTER, OPEN UP THAT DIALOG.

LET THEM KNOW, HEY, WE'VE GOT 33 ACRES OUT HERE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS WHAT'S NEIGHBORING IT, RIGHT AT THE SAME TIME, NOT JUST ELON MUSK, BUT JEFF BEZOS.

I THINK HE DOES A GREAT JOB UP THERE AS WELL.

SO JUST GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY, JUST GETTING PALM BAY IN FRONT OF THEM SO WE COULD CREATE SOME JOBS AND AND THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY.

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SO I WANTED TO GET CONSENSUS REGARDING THAT.

WE GO WITH THAT, MADAM JONI? YOU KNOW, I SPOKE WITH OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I HEAR OF THE $44 BILLION, ALL I COULD USE IS ONE. AND WE'D REDO THAT OLD REDO THAT WHOLE COMPOUND.

RIGHT. SO, ANYWAY, THOSE WERE MY THOUGHTS, GENTLEMEN.

YEAH. AND GET FINISHED THE PARKWAY AND.

AND THAT'S SOME.

BUT YES, SIR. SO THANKS, COUNSEL, FOR THAT.

AND THEN I KNOW THAT AND I THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THE PROJECTS OF THE GO GO ROADS AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE THEY COME IN BACK FOR A PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, I THINK 45 DAYS IS WHAT WE'VE SAID.

AND SO PART OF THAT IS I WANT TO KEEP THAT TRANSPARENCY, I WANT TO KEEP THAT FLOWING.

SO IF WE COULD GET THAT PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AGAIN AND AND MAKE THAT A CONSISTENT REPORT, NOT ONLY FOR COUNCIL BUT FOR OUR CITIZENS. SO YEAH.

BEFORE YOU WERE ON, ON THE DAIS, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT, HAD A PRESENTATION AND TO HAVE THAT CONTINUAL FLOW OF IT.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM.

IF, IF THAT CAN CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

I CLARIFY, SIR, YOU WANT YOU WANT A PRESENTATION EVERY 45 DAYS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, 45, 45 DAYS OR SO OR, YOU KNOW, 60 DAYS, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD JUST CONTINUALLY MONITOR AND SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.

WELL, I MEAN, I CAN.

SO I COULD GIVE YOU SORT OF A STANDING CONTENT ITEM THAT JUST GIVES YOU INFORMATION.

YOU WOULDN'T BE VOTING ON ANYTHING BUT JUST TELLS YOU IT'S A LITTLE REPORT IN THERE.

THAT'S. I'M GOOD WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE WE COULD GIVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SO MAYBE NOT EVEN, YOU KNOW, HOW ON THE ONLINE AGENDA WE CAN CLICK ON AND SEE SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

YEAH, RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S I THINK WE NEED TO TO KEEP YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE PUBLIC TRUST.

WE SAID WE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM INFORMED.

AND SO I WANT TO I WANT TO KEEP BUILDING ON THAT.

SO PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU FREQUENCY YOU'D LIKE.

AND. 645 TO 60 DAYS IS GOOD.

YES, MA'AM. THAT BE OKAY WITH THAT MAYOR ONCE A QUARTER, YOU KNOW, ONCE A QUARTER MAY BE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW.

FURTHER OUT. CAN WE JUST DO ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS AND THEN ONCE EVERY 60 DAYS? AND THEN IF IT'S IF IT'S GETTING REDUNDANT, THEN WE COULD GO TO ONE ONCE A QUARTER.

WELL, WE'LL PUT THE FIRST ONE IN FOR THE.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ENTERTAINING THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, RESTORING THE PUBLIC TRUST OR HAVING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, HEY, WE'RE REALLY BEING TRANSPARENT.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I'VE NOTICED IS FOLKS WILL SEND ME EMAILS REGARDING THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM AND I HAVE TO REFER THEM TO THE WEBSITE.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S CONTINUALLY UPDATED IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

AND I THOUGHT I HAD SHARED THAT BEFORE, BUT THAT THAT ENDS MY REPORT.

SO. MADAM SHERMAN.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST HAVE ONE ITEM THAT HAS A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS TO IT.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC A VERY, VERY BRIEF UPDATE ON THE SPACE COAST.

TPO HAS RELEASED THEIR CURRENT DRAFT LISTS OF PROJECT PRIORITIES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ON THE REGIONAL PROJECTS THAT MALABAR ROAD WIDENING THE DESIGN IS THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT ON THAT LIST HAD THE MOST POINTS, GOT THE HIGHEST SCORE ON THE SECOND BELOW THAT IS THE THE BABCOCK WIDENING DESIGN.

THAT ONE'S OBVIOUSLY THAT SECOND ONE.

I WON'T TALK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT TONIGHT, BUT THAT ONE'S A LOT MORE CHALLENGING TO FUND.

IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE BROKEN INTO SEGMENTS.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL FOR IS REGARDING THE MALABAR WIDENING PROJECT.

YOU'VE ALREADY AUTHORIZED $7 MILLION TOWARD THE EXPECTED $10 MILLION COST TO DO THE DESIGN.

OUR GOAL IN WORKING WITH THE TPO IS TO GET THE BALANCE, THE $3 MILLION IN FUNDING FROM THE STATE, HAVE THEM SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

AND IN CONVERSATIONS WITH GEORGIANA GILLETTE, SHE BELIEVES THERE IS A PATH TO DO THAT.

HOWEVER, SHE'S ASKED US IF WE CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT BY WRITING LETTERS TO THE FDOT DISTRICT FIVE SECRETARY.

THESE NEW IS NEW.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE WANT HIM TO KNOW ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND BE AWARE OF ITS IMPORTANCE.

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AND SO THE REQUEST I HAVE IS, IF COUNCIL WILL ALLOW US TO DO THIS, WE WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO SENATOR MAYFIELD, REPRESENTATIVE FINE, LOCAL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, GET AS MANY FOLKS AS WE CAN TO WRITE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, INCLUDING, OF COURSE, ONE FROM THE MAYOR.

THAT'D BE GREAT. I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT.

I'D ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS TOO.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEND THEM LETTERS AND WRITE ALONG THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF THE TPO HERE.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS THIS IS SIGNIFICANT FOR US.

AND PART OF THAT, TOO, IS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I LEFT THE CONVERSATION, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN ORLANDO IN ORANGE COUNTY, WHERE YOU HAVE A CORRIDOR OF MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL A MAIN CORRIDOR.

RIGHT. LIKE BABCOCK STREET.

BABCOCK STREET IS MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL.

SO BABCOCK STREET GOES MALABAR PALM BAY THEN YOU HAVE MELBOURNE.

I MEAN, IT'D BE GREAT IF THAT WAS A STATE ROAD.

SO PERHAPS I COULD SEND THE LETTER TO THE DISTRICT FIVE NEW SECRETARY TO SHARE WITH HIM WHAT WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE AND THEN SHARE THAT WITH OUR OUR TPO.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT? YES. YES, SIR. I WOULD AGREE.

I MEAN, IT RUNS FROM ELLESMERE ALL THE WAY TO US, ONE IN ALBERT IN THERE.

SO IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT AS A STATE ROAD AND AND PERHAPS IT CAN HAPPEN THIS TIME AROUND.

I WANT THAT IN THE FORM OF TWO SEPARATE LETTERS.

OR DO YOU WANT TO BLEND THE TWO TOPICS TOGETHER? I THINK SEPARATE MIGHT BE BEST.

WE WANT TO WAIT TILL WE GET THE MONEY.

YEAH. YEAH.

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT NOW? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, MA'AM, WHAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE? THE OTHER ISSUE IS, A, WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY OUR FEDERAL LOBBYISTS THAT ONE OF THE ITEMS WE CAN DO TO TRY TO SEEK ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE MALABAR WHITING PROJECT, AND I'M TALKING JUST BEYOND EVEN DESIGN AT THIS POINT, BUT IS TO REQUEST WRITE A LETTER TO THE COUNTY ACTUALLY, AND ASK FOR CONSIDERATION FROM THE COUNTY TO SHARE SOME OF THEIR ARPA FUNDING WITH US FOR ROADS THAT ARE, TO YOUR POINT, MULTIJURISDICTIONAL.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT BABCOCK IS A HIGHLY LIKELY CANDIDATE.

WE BELIEVE WE CAN ALSO ASK FOR MALABAR WIDENING FUNDING BECAUSE MALABAR IS HAS SOME COUNTY PORTIONS AS WELL.

SO THE REQUEST IS REALLY JUST IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US FROM A STAFF LEVEL TO WRITE LETTERS TO THE COUNTY AND TO ASK IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER USING ANY OF THEIR ARPA TOWARD ROAD PROJECTS IN THE CITY.

SO ARE THEY IS THE COUNTY GOING TO DO WHAT THEY DID THE LAST WITH THEIR FIRST INITIAL PAYMENT OF OF ARPA? IS THE COUNTY GOING TO SAY EACH COMMISSIONER GETS $5 MILLION? BECAUSE IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN PERHAPS WE WE COULD LOBBY THOSE COMMISSIONERS ON A ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS.

WELL, WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE PART OF THE THAT AFFECT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO START WITH OUR TWO LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU.

MS.. JACOBS. YOU HAVE NO LEGAL NEWS TO REPORT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND SO ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD, MS..

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

CONNELLY. COME.

COME FORWARD. THIS PART WAS FIRST, AND THE NOT SO ENLIVENED PART WAS LAST.

I'M REALLY MOVED BY ARPA, ARPA DISCUSSION AND MY THOUGHTS ARE, YOU KNOW, WE THE CITY COUNCIL, MY PARTICIPATION ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING IT, JUST AS A CITIZEN ATTENDEE, WE ARE CREATING PART OF THE PROBLEM OF HELPLESSNESS.

THAT'S THE REAL EPIDEMIC HELPLESSNESS BY CONTINUING TO.

DO ALL THESE HIGH END DEVELOPMENTS.

WHERE ARE ALL THE REST OF THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY HOUSELESS BY THE COVID, BY THE SINGLE FAMILY MOTHERS, BY THE PEOPLE WHO HOLD TWO JOBS TO JUST BE A CHILD.

THEY'RE HOUSELESS.

AND I THINK THAT.

WE NEED TO BE PART OF THAT BALANCE, THAT WE NEED TO CREATE PERMANENT HOUSING.

WE NEED A PERMANENT CHANGE THROUGH PERMANENT HOUSING.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO.

SAY THAT WE CAN'T DO IT ALL, BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING GREATER.

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WITH. THAT.

PERMANENT. WE CAN DO BOTH.

WELL, I HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THAT, ACTUALLY.

HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? BUT I WANTED TO TALK TO JOAN ABOUT IS THAT I'M IN THE TRENCHES.

THERE IS EVERYBODY ORGANIZATIONS, CHURCHES, ORDINARY PEOPLE, COUNCILS, THE ISSUE HOMELESSNESS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS TOWN RIGHT NOW THAT ARE PROVIDING EMERGENCY SERVICES.

THERE ARE PEOPLE ARE DOING SOMETHING.

WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING IS THAT THE PERMANENT HOUSING, YOU DON'T SEE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA THAT CAME IN AND SAID THEY'RE BUILDING SOMETHING FOR NO INCOME PEOPLE.

SO I THINK WE CAN COMBINE OR DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD COORDINATE SOMETHING SOMEHOW OVERARCHING, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? LIKE A MASTER LIST? A MASTER RESOURCE LIST.

SO WE'RE NOT OVERLAPPING IN SERVICES, BUT YET REACHING THE SERVICES AND DOING THE EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THE TEMPORARY AND THE MENTAL HEALTH.

I THINK THEY ARE THERE.

WE'RE JUST NOT UTILIZING THEM FULLY BY PULLING OUR EFFORTS TOGETHER.

IT'S IN THE PERMANENT HOUSING THAT I DON'T SEE ANYBODY DOING IT.

SO THANK YOU.

VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THAT'S THE CHIEF. NEXT, MA'AM.

GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE THREE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT CAME UP DURING THE MEETING.

I WOULD HAVE PUT IT UNDER THE CODE WHEN THEY WERE DOING THEIR PRESENTATION, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE PRESENTATION WAS GOING TO BE OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC THEREAFTER.

I SEE THAT THE CODE OFFICERS, WHEN THEY'RE OUT AND ABOUT, THEY CAN NOW BRING UP THEIR WHAT THEY SPOT.

ALSO, WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS ON A DAILY BASIS THAT ARE DRIVING EVERYWHERE.

WE HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOING DRIVING OUT THERE EVERY DAY AND EVEN THE UTILITY.

ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY OUT THERE.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND SOMEBODY SEES IT, SAY SOMETHING.

BUT THAT LEADS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BEING PROACTIVE.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE OVERACTIVE AND GET A LITTLE TOO MUCH, LIKE IF THEY'RE OVERZEALOUS.

CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

ONE THING I'VE NOTICED.

SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, THERE WAS NO MECHANISM.

IF I IF YOU DISAGREED WITH WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO TELL YOU, YOU HAD NO WAY OF RE ADDRESSING IT TO THEM.

I MEAN, AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT.

SO I HAD MEETINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

I DID EVERYTHING TRYING TO GET PLEAD MY CASE.

SO I SAID, ALL RIGHT, TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE END AND THE DAY I'M READY TO PAY MY FINE.

I'LL DO WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO.

AND SO I TOOK IT ALL THE WAY TO THE END BEING THAT BECAUSE I'M THAT TYPE OF PERSON, I JUST DISAGREED.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT WHAT THEY WERE WRITING ME UP FOR WAS IN VIOLATION, AND THERE WAS NO MECHANISM FOR ME TO ADDRESS IT.

OKAY. RIGHT THROUGH YOUR PROCESS.

THEN I'LL MAKE IT FOLLOW THE PROCESS.

RIGHT? THE OTHER OPTION WITH THAT ONE WAS THAT THE CITY DUMPSTER, WE CAN RENT DUMPSTERS FOR RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVELY. SOME PLACES.

IF YOU RENT A DUMPSTER, THAT'S A SMALL PRICE TO PAY.

I JUST CAN'T HAUL IT AWAY OR CAN'T GET IT OUT THERE MYSELF AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT SEE IT LIKE I'VE HELPED THE PEOPLE BY ME, EVEN THOUGH I FIGHT WITH THEM, I STILL TRY TO HELP THEM. I'M STUPID, I GUESS.

PROVIDE. PROVIDE MATERIALS OF DUMPSTERS.

THERE. IT'LL BE PICKED UP.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HELPS SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

ITEM NUMBER TWO WAS TALKING ABOUT ELON MUSK.

ON THE PROCESS. COMING UP FOR THE INDUSTRIAL, WE HAVE ONE REAL NICE PIECE OF INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NEXT TO BOMBARDIER.

THAT ENTIRE SECTION THERE IS CURRENTLY THE LAST OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT WE HAVE, THE VERY LAST OF IT, AND LAST NIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING THERE.

LUCKILY IT GOT TABLED.

THEY'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE TO 200 ACRES OF THAT INDUSTRIAL LAND AND CONVERT IT TO GUESS WHAT HOUSES, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SURROUNDED BY IT.

SO YOU WANT TO GET THAT PHONE CALL IN THERE.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER WHAT'S IN THE WHAT'S IN THE PIKE.

SO AND THEN LAST ONE IS ON YOUR REPORT FOR YOUR ROADS.

IF THEY COULD JUST TELL YOU HOW TO GRAPH TO SHOWS, WE HAVE 800 MILES OF ROADS, HAVE THAT MAP.

AND AS YOU'RE SLOWLY DOING IT, YOU JUST START MARKING IT OFF BECAUSE EVERY WEEK WE GET MORE.

EVERY WEEK TURNED IN AS COMPLETED, JUST A BAR GRAPH SHOWING HOW MUCH OF IT'S GONE.

MAKE A REAL SWEET. YOU CAN SHOW IT TO THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.

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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TERRY SMITH.

I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR HELP.

IT'S GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. OH, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

I WAS GOING TO SAY TODAY IS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THIS EVENING, AND I FELT THAT I WOULD BE AMISS IF I LEFT AND I DID NOT SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT YOU ALL LIKE TO SAY THAT PALM BAY IS THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.

YOU KNOW THE UNIVERSE.

I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT THAT PALM BAY IS A CITY WITH A HEART.

AND I'M GLAD TO BE A PART OF IT.

WE DID. WE WERE ONE OF THE 12 THAT SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, AND WE INCLUDED ALL THREE.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

EMERGENCY HOUSING, WHICH IS WHAT WE ALREADY DO, TEMPORARY HOUSING, WHICH WE ALREADY DO.

BUT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED CASE MANAGEMENT.

WE NEED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

AND WE INCLUDED IN OUR PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS FOR FUNDS FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

WE ALSO INCLUDED A REQUEST FOR HOUSING FOR A SECOND HOUSE.

WE HAVE ONE HOUSE, MERCY HOUSE.

WE HAVE FIVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE AND WE WANT IT FUNDS FOR ANOTHER HOUSE TO TAKE CARE OF EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS TALKING ABOUT, JUST FOR WOMEN AND WOMEN WITH CHILDREN.

BECAUSE, AGAIN, DURING THIS PAST YEAR, WE'VE SEEN WHAT THE NEED IS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE HERE IN PALM BAY.

WE FEEL WE HEAR EVERY DAY.

I HAD A GENTLEMAN COME TO ME JUST THIS WEEK, 71, 81 YEARS OLD.

GOT EVICTED FROM HIS HOME BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING UP ON THE RENT THE LANDLORD WANTS TO SELL.

DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, GO OUT IMMEDIATELY OR EVEN WITHIN A MONTH TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE.

HE'S BEEN SPENDING HIS SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY STAYING IN A HOTEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW THAT BECAUSE HE'S PAYING FOR HIS OWN RENT.

HE'S NOT CONSIDERED HOMELESS.

IN THE HOTEL.

SO WE HAD TO TELL HIM EXACTLY.

SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY AND THEN COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW.

AND WE CAN SAY YOU'RE HOMELESS AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOME HELP.

HE'S ALSO A VETERAN.

AND HE'S DISABLED.

BUT THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR HIM IN THE END UP TO THIS POINT.

WE WANT TO MAKE THAT IN HELP AGAIN, TO CONTINUE TO HELP THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, AS YOU WERE SAYING AGAIN TONIGHT, THIS IS.

A ONCE IN A LIFETIME, ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT.

I THANK YOU FOR THE INCREASE.

THAT WAS, AGAIN, ONE OF MY PRAYERS.

AND LASTLY, IF WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING TONIGHT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOME HERE IN PALM BAY OR BREVARD COUNTY ARE THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD A TRIP TO THE MOON.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE TONIGHT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU.

GOD BLESS. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND JUST JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE FOR A VETERAN THAT IS HOMELESS.

I KNOW. JUST JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND THOSE RESOURCES ARE, YOU KNOW THAT.

THE FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE BUREAUCRATIC AND THEY DO TAKE THEIR TIME.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A VETERAN BEING HOMELESS, THEY HAVE SOME RESOURCES ALREADY ALLOCATED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I AGREE, SIR, AND I TOLD HIM THE EXACT SAME THING.

AND WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH HIM AFTER THREE DAYS.

COPY THAT. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? STEP FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

AT RUSS 2130 WIND BROOK AND BAYSIDE LAKES.

MS.. SHERMAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT MALABAR ROAD REMINDED ME THAT.

COUPLE OF ISSUES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

LAST NIGHT AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, THERE WERE TWO PARCELS OF LAND THAT WERE BASICALLY SAID VOTED TO GO FORWARD IN THE BAYSIDE LAKES AREA WITH TRAFFIC BEING SENT OVER TO KOGAN.

THE ONE THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT ABOUT THE BIDDLE DEVELOPMENT, ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING OUT TO MALABAR ROAD.

AND YOU MENTIONED THE EXPANSION OF MALABAR ROAD.

THOUGHT CAME TO MY MIND SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN HEARING ABOUT EITHER ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS LAST NIGHT OR TONIGHT IS THE

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COST OF PUTTING IN A STOPLIGHT.

WHETHER IT'S AT KOGAN AND OSMOSIS OR WHETHER IT'S MIDDLE.

AND THOSE PEOPLE, IF ONCE THAT MALABAR ROAD IS TWO LANE, I MEAN FOUR LANES, THEN THEIR EXIT IS GOING TO GET VERY POUNDED.

SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE A STOPLIGHT OR RIGHT TURN ONLY.

SO. SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE FORCING THOSE DEVELOPERS TO PAY FOR THAT.

I KNOW. BUT FOUR YEARS AGO OR SO, WHEN WE KIND OF PUSHED FOR A STOPLIGHT AT WALDEN IN BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

THE ESTIMATED COST ON THAT THING, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WAS LIKE 180,000.

SO IT'S A PRETTY DARN EXPENSIVE THING THAT DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE PAYING FOR.

AND I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT.

JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME UP TONIGHT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SO YOU. WELL, HIS WIFE COULD HAVE SPOKE, MEANING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.