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THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022 DASH 13 TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR CHRIS ADAMS OF THE CHRISTIAN DEVELOPMENT CENTER CHURCH.AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A COUNCILMAN.
FILIBERTO, PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR MEDINA.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE COME TO YOU IN THIS COUNCIL MEETING TODAY, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US WISDOM, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US A KNOWLEDGE BEYOND OUR UNDERSTANDING AS WE HAVE ALL THESE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORTH IN THIS MEETING.
AS WE GO IN THIS MEETING, WE JUST GIVE YOU ALL THE PRAISE AND ALL THE GLORY AND YOUR HOLY NAME.
BOBBY SANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
CIVIL LIBERTIES. RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH PATRIOTISM IN THESE CHAMBERS TODAY.
I LOVE WHENEVER YOU ONE SAID THE PLEDGE IN UNISON.
THAT IS SO MOTIVATING TO ME, GUYS.
AND I HEARD A CLAP AFTER THE INVOCATION, SO PRAISE THE LORD.
MAYOR MEDINA. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.
MISS SHERMAN HERE. MISS SMITH HERE.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.
ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT-LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.
ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE OR CALL 32195 230 414.
[AGENDA REVISIONS]
MADAM SHERMAN.UH, YES, SIR. WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT ANNOUNCEMENTS UNDER AGENDA REVISIONS.
FIRST IS UNDER ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH IS CPC FIVE 2022.
AN UPDATED LEGAL DESCRIPTION HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE.
THE NEXT ONE IS ITEM UNDER EIGHT UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
A PORTION OF GAYNOR DRIVE HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR MEDINA CONSIDERATION OF ALLOCATING AVAILABLE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY DOLLARS FOR THE COST OF A FLAG PROGRAM AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL, HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
NOT JUST TO CLARIFY, MA'AM, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER CONSENT.
YES, SIR. IF I HAD IF I HAD PUT IT ON APPROPRIATELY AT THE TIME, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER CONSENTS.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT'S COME LATE, IT'S UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED TO POLICE THAT ITEM.
YES, SIR. SO THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTOOD THE HEART.
AND SIR, IF I MAY, I NEED TO CHECK WITH STAFF.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR ALEX BERNARD WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO I NEED TO FIND OUT WHICH ONES ARE THAT PERSON IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED A CONFIRMATION? NO. JUST. OKAY.
SO, UM, WHAT STAFF ADVISED IS IT KIM ROSENKER, WHO IS THE ATTORNEY FOR AT LEAST FOUR ITEMS, NUMBER 11 AND 12 AND NUMBER THREE. ALEX, CAN YOU COME UP? YES. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
HI. CAN YOU CLARIFY? KIMBER ZENKO, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, REPRESENTS OR IS INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
RIGHT. SO WE'VE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM FOR CONTINUANCE FOR HER ITEMS. APPARENTLY SHE WAS IN A FENDER BENDER AND IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT I JUST FOUND OUT IN THE PAST MINUTE OR TWO THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED.
SO SHE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE FOR ALL THE ITEMS HER NAME IS LISTED.
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DO YOU KNOW YET? SHE JUST ASKED SPECIFICALLY FOR 11 AND 12.I ASKED HER ABOUT THREE, 16 AND 17.
SO JUST CONSULTING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
SO WE WE WOULD REQUEST THEN AS PART OF THE AGENDA REVISION FOR THIS MOMENT IN TIME BASED ON THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ITEMS 11 AND 12 BE CONTINUED.
AND IF IF WE GET UPDATES FROM STAFF THAT MR. ZENKO IS NOT ABLE TO REPRESENT ON THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, WE WILL ADVISE COUNCIL AS WE GET TO THOSE ITEMS. SO AS WE GET TO THE ITEM.
I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR POLICING THE THE FLAG NEW BUSINESS.
ANY REVISIONS? NOTHING FURTHER.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET STARTED, I WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE THAT THE REQUESTS RELATED TO THE MAYOR'S GOLF COURSE WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT, AND THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JUNE NINE HAS BEEN CANCELED.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT DETAIL.
WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS (Part 1 of 2)]
WE JUST NEED A VOTE ON THE CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS 11 AND 12 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION FOR ITEMS 11 AND 12.
SO MOVE. MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING MY COUNCILMAN.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, MISS TERESE, FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
IS ANYONE HERE FOR ITEMS 11 AND 12? YES. OKAY.
I'M NOT GOING TO. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE SETTLE DOWN.
ALSO LET US GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO EXIT.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE SETTLE DOWN.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]
WE'RE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS THE FIRST FRIDAY IN JUNE SHALL BE RECOGNIZED AS NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO HONOR AND REMEMBER ALL VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF GUN VIOLENCE AND TO DECLARE THAT WE AS A COUNTRY MUST DO MORE TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE.
AND ON AVERAGE, THERE ARE NEARLY 16,000 GUN HOMICIDES EVERY YEAR.
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AND. WHEREAS, AMERICANS ARE 26 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE BY GUN GUN HOMICIDE THAN PEOPLE IN OTHER HIGH INCOME COUNTRIES.FLORIDA HAS 202,849 GUN DEATHS EVERY YEAR, WITH THE RATE OF 12.9 DEATHS PER 100,000 PEOPLE.
FLORIDA HAS THE 27TH HIGHEST RATE OF GUN DEATHS IN THE US.
AND. WHEREAS, GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER.
AS THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC CONTINUES TO EXACERBATE GUN VIOLENCE.
AND. WHEREAS, IN 2013, HADIYA PENDLETON WAS TRAGICALLY SHOT AND KILLED AT AGE 15 AND ON JUNE 3RD, 2020, TO RECOGNIZE THE 25TH BIRTHDAY OF DIE PENDLETON, PEOPLE ACROSS THE US WILL RECOGNIZE NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY AND WEAR ORANGE IN TRIBUTE TO HADIYA PENDLETON AND OTHER VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE AND THE LOVED ONES FOR THESE VICTIMS. AND. WHEREAS, THE IDEA OF WAS INSPIRED BY A GROUP OF HADIYA'S FRIENDS WHO ASKED THEIR CLASSMATES TO COMMEMORATE HER LIFE BY WEARING ORANGE, THEY CHOSE THIS COLOR BECAUSE HUNTERS WEAR ORANGE TO ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES TO OTHER HUNTERS WENT OUT IN THE WOODS, AND ORANGE IS A COLOR THAT SYMBOLIZES THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE.
KENNIE JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, SORRY, WEST MELBOURNE, BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY, SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 30, 2022 AS NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES EFFORTS TO PREVENT THE TRAGIC EFFECTS OF GUN VIOLENCE AND TO HONOR AND VALUE HUMAN LIVES IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE ON TO SET IN MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SECOND DAY OF JUNE 2022.
I APPRECIATE IT. SO WE DIDN'T EXPECT SUCH A BIG CROWD.
AND THE OTHER TWO SAID, WELL, HOW DO YOU REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE? AND IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
A LOT OF FOLKS ARE VERY FRUSTRATED, THEY'RE CONCERNED AND THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S HOPELESS.
AND OUR ANSWER TO THEM IS IT IS NOT HOPELESS.
THAT'S A COMMUNITY VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.
BUT THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO IS BE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS PROCLAMATION IS SO IMPORTANT.
AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL BEING WILLING TO SIGN THIS PROCLAMATION AND RAISE AWARENESS AND ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, IT'S NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
THANK YOU, KENNY, FOR CHAMPIONING OUR EFFORTS.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
THANKS. ACTUALLY YOU WANT TO GET.
SHE'S GOING TO WANT TO GET AWAY.
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NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, JUNE 2022.THAT WE'RE AS THE DYNAMISM AND DIVERSITY OF CARIBBEAN AMERICANS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR NATION'S STORY IN EXTRAORDINARY WAYS ENSURING THE BONDS BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND THE CARIBBEAN REMAIN STRONG.
AND. WHEREAS, DURING THE NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, WE CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR CARIBBEAN AMERICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND WE REFLECT ON HOW THEY HAVE BOLSTERED OUR COUNTRY AND ENRICHED OUR TRADITIONS.
AND. WHEREAS, CARIBBEAN AMERICANS EXCEL IN OUR UNIVERSITIES, INSPIRE US AS ATHLETES, MUSICIANS, AND GUIDE US AS A COMMUNITY AND GOVERNMENT LEADERS, AND KEEP US SAFE THROUGH DEDICATED SERVICE IN OUR ARMED FORCES.
AND. WHEREAS, BEFORE OUR CARIBBEAN AMERICAN SPORTS AND CULTURAL ASSOCIATION, BETTER KNOWN AS PICKERSGILL, EMPOWERS THE LIVES OF BREVARD COUNTY YOUTH AND FAMILIES BY PROVIDING COMMUNITY EDUCATION, CHARITABLE SERVICES AND CULTURAL ACTIVITIES, AND HAS PROVIDED CARIBBEAN AMERICAN SPORTS AND CULTURAL ASSOCIATION SHOWCASES AND SHARES CARIBBEAN AMERICAN CULTURE IN BREVARD COUNTY.
NOW, THEREFORE, I KENNY JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE 2022 AS NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CELEBRATION.
ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT OF BOKASSA, MEMBERS OF BOKASSA AND THE CARIBBEAN COMMUNITY HERE IN PALM BAY, WE THANK YOU FOR HONORING US WITH THE MONTH OF JUNE AS NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
ALEXANDER HAMILTON, THE FIRST SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY, WAS FROM THE CARIBBEAN ISLAND OF NEVIS.
WE COUNT AMONG OUR FAMOUS SONS AND DAUGHTERS.
SECRETARY OF STATE COLIN POWELL.
AND SIDNEY POITIER, TO NAME A FEW.
AND THE FIRST CARIBBEAN AMERICAN BILLIONAIRE, RIHANNA.
THE EFFORT TO ESTABLISH A CARIBBEAN HERITAGE MONTH BEGAN IN 1999 WITH OUTREACH TO PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON BY AN AD HOC GROUP OF CARIBBEAN AMERICANS ASKING FOR THE RECOGNITION OF AUGUST AS CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
IN 2001, IKE'S WAS JOINED BY THE TRANSAFRICA FORUM AND THE CARIBBEAN STAFF ASSOCIATION OF THE WORLD BANK TO ORGANIZE EVENTS DURING JUNE, PROMOTING RECOGNITION OF JUNE AS NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
AND THE MOMENTUM BEGAN TO BUILD IN 2004.
WITH LANGUAGE PROVIDED BY ICE'S FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT, DR.
IN JUNE 2005, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 71, SPONSORED BY CONGRESSWOMAN LEE, RECOGNIZING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF CARIBBEAN PEOPLE AND THEIR DESCENDANTS IN THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF THE UNITED STATES.
THE PROCLAMATION WAS ISSUED BY PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH ON JUNE SIX, 2006.
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AND ALSO EVERY YEAR SINCE 2006, CARIBBEAN ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES RECOGNIZE NATIONAL, CARIBBEAN AND AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH BY EXECUTING ACTIVITIES WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES THAT DISPLAY AN EXHIBIT.THE HILLS, THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF THE CARIBBEAN AND BOKASSA IS DOING EXACTLY THAT THIS YEAR, AND I THINK WE GAVE YOU ALL SOME FLIERS FOR SOME EVENTS THAT WE ARE SPONSORING IN JUNE.
PLEASE JOIN US AS WE CELEBRATE.
THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.
COME ON, LET'S SHOW WITH ONE FINGER.
CAN WE TAKE A BREAK? YEAH, I'M BRINGING.
THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, ALVARO DE LA FUENTE.MY NAME IS SALVADOR DE LA PUENTE AND I LIVE IN 2030 LYNBROOK DRIVE.
AND THIS OBVIOUSLY COMES FROM TAXPAYER FUNDED DOLLARS.
AS EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS, THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GAME OF DELAY.
THEY'RE PLAYING THE SYSTEM TO TO PREVENT HAVING A TIME OF ON BEING UNABLE TO REAPPLY.
SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS IS BASICALLY AN IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO TO BE ABLE TO REAPPLY TO THIS REZONING WITHIN A SHORT TIME FRAME.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING AS CITIZENS IS, FIRST OF ALL, REIMBURSEMENT.
IF THEY DO PLAN ON REAPPLYING FOR REIMBURSEMENT, ALL THE FEES AND LABOR THAT HAS BEEN INCURRED IN IN WORKING THE CITY TO TO HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK AND THE HEARINGS AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE.
SECOND OF ALL, WE WE REQUEST THAT THERE BE A DELAY OR A COOLING OFF PERIOD BETWEEN APPLICATIONS AS TO PREVENT HAVING BASICALLY, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE DEVELOPER PLAYING A GAME OF AVOIDING HAVING A 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD.
PHILIP KAUFMAN, FOLLOWED BY DANIEL KAUFMAN.
PHILLIP CORCORAN 1878 LYNBROOK DRIVE.
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SO I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO SAVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN CITY PLANNING COSTS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF CITY PLANNING TIME.IF JOYAL C SUBMITS THE APPLICATION FOR REZONING, WE START THIS COSTLY PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.
THE COST TO JOY LLC IS IS JUST $2,000, BUT IT COST THE CITY MUCH, MUCH MORE.
SO MY GOAL HERE TONIGHT IS TO SHOW THAT THE REZONING IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ACROSS OUR FAIR CITY IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS.
NONE OF THEM ARE IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING.
SINCE THIS IS NO LONGER A QUASI JUDICIAL JUDICIAL ISSUE AT THIS TIME, WE CAN SPEAK FREELY.
SO. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE LEGION HALL ON MARCH 29TH.
I REMEMBER THE LAST THING THAT I ASKED YOU WAS IF IF YOU WOULD STAND, DO THE RIGHT THING AND STAND WITH THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY AND NOT FOR THE INTEREST OF AN LLC. AND YOU REPLIED, YES, THANK YOU.
SO YOU HAVE ALL RECENTLY, PROBABLY JUST AS THIS MEETING WAS STARTED, RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM OUR CITIZEN GROUP AND THEY ARE ASKING YOU A QUESTION, SINCE THIS IS NO LONGER A QUASI JUDICIAL, JUDICIAL.
WE CAN TALK AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR POSITION IS ON THE REZONING OF THE GOLF COURSE.
SO I KNOW THAT I SPOKE TO MY OUR COUNCILMAN, MR. FILIBERTO, IN MARCH.
I WOULD HOPE THAT HE WOULD SIDE WITH HIS NEIGHBORS.
I KNOW EVERY ONE OF THEM WANTS THE GOLF COURSE TO REMAIN.
SO YOU'VE ALL RECEIVED THAT EMAIL JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.
UM. WE WANT TO SHOW JACK SPERA, JOY LLC AND COLTER HOMES THAT WE OPPOSE ANY AND EVERY REZONING PROPOSAL AND THAT IT WILL BE AN ELECTION ISSUE EVERY NOVEMBER.
WHILE THE CITY IS VERY CAREFUL NOT TO OFFEND A DEVELOPER WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE COURTESY TO INFORM MORE THAN 300 PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ATTEND THIS ZONING MEETING ON APRIL, ON MAY 18TH.
SHOULD WE GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE? I SAY NO.
THANK YOU. DANIEL KAUFMAN, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT STICE.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DANIEL CORCORAN.
I LIVE AT 2124 WINDWARD DRIVE.
EMBEDDED IN HIS LETTER IS A SUGGESTION THAT THE APPLICATIONS WILL BE REFILED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
OUR REDSHAW TEAM CORE TEAM OF 15 PLUS HOMEOWNERS AT BAYSIDE LAKES HAS BEEN WORKING TO OPPOSE THEIR PROPOSAL, CLOSELY WORKING WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROCESS.
THEY HELPED US ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING WE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR REVIEW WAS FULLY COMPLIANT.
THE APPLICATION APPLICANT HAD THEIR CHANCE STARTING ON JANUARY 31ST TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM TO GET THEIR PROJECT LEGITIMATELY PROPOSED, ASSESSED AND VOTED ON BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
FOR STARTERS, THEIR APPLICATION WAS NOT COMPLIANT.
AND WE SUPPORT THE CITY IN EVERY EVERY EFFORT THAT THEY MAKE TO ABIDE BY THE RULES.
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SIR, COULD WE HAVE THIS THAT I HAD PUT IN THERE? I PROVIDED A STICK.OUR TERM IS VERY OUR TEAM IS VERY PROUD OF THE WORK WE HAVE DONE AND THE PRESENTATIONS WE DELIVERED, WHICH WERE RESULTED BY THE UNANIMOUS DENIAL OF BOTH APPLICATIONS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ON MAY 18.
ACCORDINGLY, OUR TEAM EXPECTS THAT ANY REFILING NEEDS TO WAIT UNTIL AT LEAST MAY 18, 2023.
OUR RED SHIRT TEAM IS ASKING THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CRITICALLY ASSESS HOW THIS DEFECTIVE PROPOSAL WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AND THE MEANS BY WHICH THIS IS TRYING TO BE SALVAGED.
THANK YOU. ROBERT STACE, FOLLOWED BY MARIE CORCORAN.
1796 WHEN BURKE DRIVE IN PALM BAY, WE ARE CALLED TO HOLMES.
WE WILL SEND OUT A LETTER GIVING OUR RESIDENTS LESS THAN ONE BUSINESS DAY AND PRESENT A DATED P CP MATERIAL AND TELL YOU THINGS LIKE YOU'LL ONLY SEE 122 CARS OUT OF 367 HOUSES.
I GUESS BECAUSE RETIREES ARE ALL IN WALKERS TODAY.
WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND RESIDENTS AND PARTNER WITH THEM BECAUSE WE ARE CALLED TO HOMES.
HAS ANYBODY HEARD FROM TWO HOMES? NO. WE WANT TO PLACE AN 1800 SQUARE FOOT HOME, 300,000, 1800 SQUARE FOOT HOME IN FRONT OF YOUR $800,000. 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOME AT 800,000.
YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE IT. WE ARE CALLED THE HOMES.
WE DID NOT ATTEND YOUR ZONING MEETING BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WOULD GET OUR ASSES KICKED.
WE ARE CALLED TO HOME SO WE WITHDREW AND WE'RE GOING TO RESUBMIT.
DOES ANYBODY SEE THE LUNACY IN THIS? DOES ANYBODY SEE THE COMPATIBILITY IN THIS? DOES ANYBODY SEE CULT OF HOLMES WORKING WITH ANYBODY ON THIS? I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING.
I FEEL LIKE I'M IN A FRICKIN RICHARD PRYOR MOVIE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
WE'RE GOING TO BE AN AVERAGE CITY IN ALL THE PALM BAY.
YOU WANT TO HAVE US LIVE HERE, WORK HERE, PLAY HERE.
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU REMOVE A GEM? ONE OF THE FEW GEMS IN PALM BAY.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? I'VE BEEN DRUG TESTED.
THAT'S IT. LET'S LOOK AT COMMON SENSE ON THAT.
NOT. NOT MAKE THE LANDOWNERS RICH.
THIS IS ABOUT WHEN YOU DROP SOME HOUSES IN HERE AND YOU CHANGE PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE IT NOW. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OFF.
WE WANT TO SNUGGLE UP WITH YOU.
MARY CORCORAN, FOLLOWED BY MARY RAMSEY.
BARRY CORCORAN, LYNBROOK DRIVE, PALM BAY'S WEBSITE SHOWS THE POPULATION AT CLOSE TO 119,000 RESIDENTS IN 2020, MAKING IT ONE OF THE MOST POPULOUS CITIES IN THE COUNTY.
THE SITE ALSO SHOWS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE A DISPOSABLE INCOME OF $55,000.
WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE SPEND THE MONEY RIGHT HERE ON PALM BAY? I KNOW I WOULD.
MAYOR MEDINA, IN A FEW SHORT WEEKS, YOU'RE GOING TO DEBUT YOUR 2022 STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS.
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STAMP LOTS.THE LESS THE CITY IS BECOMING DESIRABLE FOR PEOPLE TO STAY AND SPEND THEIR MONEY.
DEVELOPERS DON'T CARE ABOUT GREEN SPACE THAT IS REQUIRED FOR PLANNED COMMUNITIES.
I'M QUOTING ONE 85.65 OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, COMMON RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE SHALL BE DEFINED AS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF IMPROVED USABLE AREA, INCLUDING OUTDOOR SPACE, PERMANENTLY SET ASIDE AND DESIGNATED ON THE SITE PLAN AS RECREATIONAL OR OPEN SPACE FOR USE BY RESIDENTS OF THE POD.
SUCH USABLE SPACE MAY BE IN THE FORM OF ACTIVE OR PASSIVE RECREATION AREAS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PLAYGROUNDS, GOLF COURSES, NATURE TRAILS, NON PUBLIC RECREATIONAL VEHICLE STORAGE, STABLES AND LAKES.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT LAKES THE DEVELOPERS ALWAYS PUT IN THEIR PLANS ARE ONLY HOLDING PONDS.
AND THE GOLF COURSE MENTIONED IN THIS CITY'S CODE OF COORDINATES IS IN JEOPARDY AS THE DEVELOPERS WILL TRY TO CHANGE IT FOR THEIR OWN GREED. I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE HERE WANT PALM BAY TO BE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
MARY RAMSEY, FOLLOWED BY TIM BLAND.
I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PERCEPTION OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU LIVE CLOSE TO THE RING.
YOU WONDER WHAT THE OVERALL COMMUNITY REALLY THINKS OF THE CIRCUS.
THE BEST PLACE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE PULSE OF THE COMMUNITY IS IN A SALON.
ME BEING THE OLD TEACHER AND BEHAVIORISTS THAT I AM, I COULDN'T HELP BUT JUMP INTO THE FRAY.
NEXT TO ME WAS A LADY BY THE NAME OF MRS. KNOTTS, WHO'S BEEN IN PALM BAY FOREVER, SHE SAYS.
AND SHE'S HELPING TO RAISE HER GRANDCHILDREN.
MY HUSBAND DOESN'T PLAY GOLF, BUT MY GRANDDAUGHTER NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY IF SHE WANTS IT.
THE GOLF COURSE OFFERS PROGRAMS. SHE SAID TO ME, OUR KIDS HAVE LOST SO MUCH WITH COVID.
NOW THIS IS JUST ONE MORE THING.
I DON'T PLAY GOLF, BUT I'LL BE IN AN EVERY MEETING FROM NOW ON TO FIGHT THE FIGHT, AND I'LL GET EVERY SALON IN THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
I TOOK THE PHONE NUMBER AND JUST TO QUOTE FROM HISTORY, JOHN PAUL JONES, WE'VE JUST BEGUN OUR FIGHT.
AND A QUOTE FROM LONGFELLOW'S POEM, LISTEN MIGHT NOT QUOTE, IT'S IT'S A SKEWED QUOTE.
LISTEN, MY CHILDREN, AND YOU SHALL HEAR OF THE FIGHT FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
NOW, I STILL CARRY A TORCH FOR MY LATE HUSBAND WHO FOUGHT PTSD.
AND I CARRY A TORCH FOR MY NEW HUSBAND, WHOSE MISTRESS IS GOLF.
I'VE TRAVELED IN 50 STATES AND 93 COUNTRIES OF THIS WORLD.
YOU NEED TO SHOW ME BECAUSE I'M NEW HERE, THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN THE WORLD.
TOO BLAND, FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.
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I WANT TO RECOGNIZE A MAYOR, CHERISE AND TERESE FOR QUICKLY RESPONDING TO ANY COMMENTS AND EMAILS THAT I'VE SENT.WHO IS THE APPLICANT? YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN JOY, LC AND BFC ON THE SIGNS OUTSIDE.
NOW WE SEE COULTER'S ASKING TO PULL THE APPLICATION AND NOW THIS JACK SPARROW IS INVOLVED SOMEHOW.
WHO IS THE APPLICANT? COME ON.
AS COLTER LEGALLY AUTHORIZED TO REQUEST TO PULL THIS APPLICATION, DO THEY HAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY FROM JOY LLC? THE P AND Z PLANNING ZONING UNANIMOUSLY REJECTED THIS PROPOSAL ON MAY 18.
IS JOY LLC REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR THE COST OF THAT MEETING AND THOSE MAILINGS THAT WENT OUT? WHY IS THE CITY MANAGER MEETING WITH COLTER IN THE LETTER, WHICH I HAVE HEAR FROM COLTER TO SUZANNE SHERMAN, THANK YOU FOR MEETING YOUR STAFF AND YOU MEETING WITH US LAST WEEK I FOUND THE MEETING TO BE QUITE PRODUCTIVE.
I DON'T BELIEVE COULTER'S THE APPLICANT.
SO WHY ARE THEY MEETING WITH THE CITY? WHAT IS THE LEGAL AND STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE REAPPLYING? SO WE HAD THE PNC MEETING.
NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, A WEEK BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL WAS TO APPROVE OR VOTE ON ANY REZONING OF THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE, THEY PULL THE APPLICATION AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO REFILE WITHIN A FEW WEEKS.
THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
WHY IS THIS CITY ASSISTING BFC WITH THE APPLICATION? IT SAYS RIGHT HERE IN THE LETTER.
WHY IS THIS CITY HELPING THEM WITH THEIR APPLICATION? WHY CAN'T THEY DO THEIR APPLICATION ON THEIR OWN? THE LAST ONE WAS INCOMPLETE.
I THINK DAN SAID 12, 12 MONTHS.
STOP 12 MONTHS OR REAPPLICATION FOR THE WHOLE ONE YEAR IN THE ALTERNATIVE.
PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR MEETING ON JUNE 9TH AND VOTE.
LISTEN TO WHAT EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY AND VOTE.
BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN B CONNOLLY.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
WE HAD A PROCLAMATION ON GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS.
VIOLENCE HAS BECOME THE SOCIETY NORM.
IN SOME CASES, IT IS PRAISED AND ENCOURAGED.
IT IS THE ACTION OF THE PERSON, NOT THE TOOL.
MOST OF THE MASS SHOOTERS HAPPEN IN GUN FREE ZONES.
SORT OF MAKE YOU LOOK AROUND THE ROOM.
IT TAKES ME OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE.
I BECOME DISCOURAGED WHEN I HAVE POLITICIANS SUGGESTING I GIVE UP MY GUN.
I WILL MAYBE CONSIDER GIVING MINE UP WHEN THEY GIVE UP THEIRS AND ARE NOT PROTECTED AND SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WITH GUNS. I AM NOT A SUPPORTER OF THE GREAT RESET.
I DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF AMERICA DISARMED.
I DO WANT TO BE A TEAM PLAYER, BUT I WILL NOT BE A SHEEP.
I. SUSAN B CONNOLLY, FOLLOWED BY STEPHEN CHALMERS.
I'M HERE FOR MANY REASONS TONIGHT.
ONE IS TO END GUN VIOLENCE, NOT TO END PEOPLE HAVING GUNS, BUT THE USE OF GUNS IN A VIOLENT WELL WAY.
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AND THE THIRD THING I'M HERE FOR.IS THE IS THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS QUOTE.
BUT TONIGHT, I'M ALSO HERE NOT TO TALK ABOUT STOPPING SOMETHING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT STARTING SOMETHING.
STARTING AND WORKING WITH A MOVEMENT THAT IS ALREADY IN PROCESS.
AND THIS IS I TOLD YOU TWO WEEKS AGO THAT I WAS ATTENDING THE 2022 FLORIDA PROSPERITY AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY SOLUTION SUMMIT.
UH, STATISTICS THAT CAME FROM THAT SUMMIT.
IS ONE THIRD OF THE FLORIDA WORKFORCE SAYS NO TO JOBS BECAUSE THE ASSISTANCE THEY RECEIVE ASSISTANCE SUCH AS FEDERAL TAX CREDITS, CHILD CARE SUBSIDIES, HOUSING ALLOWANCES, FOOD STAMPS IS GREATER THAN A PAYCHECK.
THE SUMMIT WAS NOT ABOUT CHANGING HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE PAID.
THE ROOT CAUSES THAT KEEP PEOPLE LOCKED INTO GENERATIONS OF POVERTY.
THE SUMMIT, AS THE TITLE SAID, OFFERED SOLUTIONS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR A PERMANENT TRANSITION FROM PROSPERITY, FROM POVERTY TO PROSPERITY.
IT WAS ABOUT COMMUNITY AND NATION ASSURING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL AT AN EARNED SUCCESS. THERE WILL BE MORE OUTCOME FROM THIS AND I AM WAS PLEASED TO ATTEND.
STEPHEN CHALMERS FOLLOWED BY AND DAVIS.
I'M STEVE CHALMERS 2160 LYNBROOK DRIVE AND A SUBDIVISION OF OF THE BAYSIDE LAKES.
I TALK BRIEFLY I'VE GOT 3 MINUTES AND I HAD TWO THINGS.
I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE MAJORS AND THANK YOU.
OBVIOUSLY, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE MAJORS.
I LOVE AMERICAN IDIOMS. TWO OF WHICH COME TO MIND RECENTLY IS, IS THAT YOU BUILD A BETTER MOUSETRAP AND THE WORLD BEATS A PATH TO YOUR DOOR.
BOY WHAT COULD BE MORE AMERICAN THAN THAT.
AND IT HAS A LITTLE RING FOR THE LITTLE CAPITALIST IN ALL OF US.
AND WE HAVE TWO WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED AND HAVE TEMPORARILY BEEN WITHDRAWN.
AND THEY'RE REALLY ASKING WAIVERS FOR WHAT WE ALL VOTED FOR HERE AS A COMMUNITY.
THE COMP PLAN WAS THE LONG RANGE PLAN OF HOW WE WANTED OUR COMMUNITY TO LOOK.
WE VOTED FOR THAT AS A COMMUNITY.
OK. SO I KIND OF WONDER ABOUT THAT AND HOW THAT APPLIES TO TO THAT SITUATION.
THE OTHER THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT WHEN I MOVED TO PALM BAY IN 2020, I VOTED WITH MY FEET.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER WHAT WE ALL WANT.
AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY AND I DIDN'T GET TO WEAR MY OTHER SHIRT, I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, OKAY, BUT I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY GAVE.
THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL AT THE TED MOOREHEAD LAGOON HOUSE A.
WATER FOUNTAIN THAT PRODUCES FILTERED WATER TO REFILLED PLASTIC BOTTLES.
I DON'T SEE I SEE ONE PLASTIC TOP THERE, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE HERE.
I HOPE THERE'S ONE HERE IN THIS BUILDING.
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BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE DONATION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE THE SPIRIT THAT MAYBE WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL BE ENLARGE TO TO MORE ACTION WITH THESE FOUNTAINS WHERE YOU CAN TAKE YOUR EMPTY PLASTIC BOTTLE AND REFILL IT AND REUSE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE YOU KIND OF BREAK THROUGH THE PLASTIC OR SIT ON IT OR SOMETHING.SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO IF WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY JUST ADDRESS THOSE.
OH, WAS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER? OH, YEAH.
HE TOLD ME THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER SPEAKERS.
I RESIDE AT ONE, TWO, THREE RICHMOND CIRCLE.
I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY FOR OVER 38 YEARS AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
I SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS READING PALM BAY'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ON PLANNING AND ZONING.
I DID WANT TO STATE THAT THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR A LARGE AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE WERE VERY CLEAR WHAT THE DEVELOPER WAS TO PROVIDE.
THE CITY WAS CLEARLY WRITTEN OUT AND DOCUMENTED IN THE COMMAND MEDIA.
THE REQUIRED ARTIFACTS THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY WERE CLEAR.
WHAT THE CP MEETING WAS TO INCLUDE IS DETAILED OUT AND IS VERY CLEAR.
THE DEVELOPER DID NOT FOLLOW UP WITH ANY OF THE RESIDENTS AFTER THE ILL PREPARED MEETING WHATSOEVER.
THE DEVELOPER DID NOT SHOW UP TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.
INSTEAD, THEY SAT BACK AND IN MY OPINION, WERE ALLOWED TO WATCH THE ENTIRE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ONLINE AS MANY TIMES AS THEY WANTED. THEY WERE ABLE TO HEAR ALL OF THE CITIZENS OBJECTIONS AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THE DETAILED INFORMATION THAT THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF PALM BAY GATHERED WITH THEIR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF RESEARCH.
THEY WERE ALSO ABLE TO SIT BACK AND HEAR ALL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING ARGUMENTS AS WELL.
THERE'S NO WAY ANY OF THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY ARE GOING TO TRUST THIS DEVELOPER AFTER THEIR TOTAL AND CONSISTENT DISREGARD FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE COUNCILS.
AFTER LISTENING TO THE CLOSING ARGUMENTS OF EVERY OTHER PARTY.
MADAM ATTORNEY. YES, MAYOR, I DO KNOW THAT WE KIND OF ALL JUST FOCUS ON THE REZONING, AND I DO WANT TO SEPARATE THE TWO BECAUSE THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING.
IN LAYMAN'S TERM IS JUST THE REZONING WE FOCUSED UPON.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND IT ALSO AFFECTS WHAT COUNSEL CAN AND CANNOT SAY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED AMENDMENT IS LEGISLATIVE.
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ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT MEANS IS COUNCIL IS PASSING A LAW.IT'S SAYING THIS IS OUR VISION FOR THE AREA.
LEGISLATIVE THINGS COUNCIL CAN TALK ABOUT.
BUT WHAT THEY CAN'T DO IS TALK ABOUT HOW THEY WILL VOTE ON A REZONING, BECAUSE EVERY ZONING IS QUASI JUDICIAL, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY ACTING AS AS JUDGES.
IT'S AKIN TO IF YOU THINK ABOUT A CRIMINAL CASE OR EVEN A CIVIL CASE, YOU ARE GOING BEFORE A JUDGE FOR A CIVIL MATTER, WHETHER IT BE A LAWSUIT OR A DIVORCE.
WOULD YOU REALLY FEEL GOOD IF THE JUDGE WENT OUT AND PUBLICLY SAID, THIS IS HOW I'M GOING TO FIND AN AND RULE WHEN HE IS NOT HEARD ANY EVIDENCE OF YOUR CASE WHATSOEVER? THEY CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE ON A REZONING.
SO THERE IS NO ABILITY FOR THEM TO TELL YOU ON A REZONING HOW I SPECIFICALLY WILL VOTE.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN IT COULD BE CONFUSING.
WHY IS THE CITY MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT? AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE MET WITH STAFF.
I KNOW. I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE.
CERTAINLY IF WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WHETHER WE TELL YOU, WELL, YOU CAN'T TALK TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS THE REZONING, BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW DOES THIS PROCEED? WHAT HAPPENS? AND DO REACH OUT TO STAFF.
SO WHEN THE DEVELOPERS WANT TO MEET SHORTLY THEREAFTER, OF COURSE, STAFF IS GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHY THEY WANT TO MEET, BUT WE WANT OUR ATTORNEY PRESENT. IT'S A PRUDENT THING TO DO, AND IT'S SOMETHING I RECOMMEND.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM AND I BELIEVE GROWTH AS AND SO HAS THE CITY MANAGER.
AS FAR AS THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS ARE ROUTINE BEFORE AN APPLICATION AND I BELIEVE IN THIS CASE THERE WAS A MAYBE A PRE APPLICATION MEETING BUT WITH PRIOR STAFF.
THIS STAFF DOESN'T KNOW, BUT THEY DO KNOW IS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.
SO I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE WALL.
WHY WASN'T EVERYTHING THERE? THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING IS ABOUT, IS TO MAKE SURE THEY, THE APPLICANT, KNOWS WHAT STAFF EXPECTS AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION AND WHAT IT IS TO BE COMPLETE AS FAR AS THE 51.05.
IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT THE APPLICATION CAN'T BE REFILED, BUT I WILL POINT OUT THERE THERE'S 51.05 B AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD I THINK THE PERSON IS HERE WHO'S TRIED TO COME UNDER B BEFORE AND, YOU KNOW, CAN WE STOP THEM FROM COMING UNDER B, WHETHER TO SHOW WHETHER THEY ARE UNDER THE EXCEPTION? NO, BUT IT CERTAINLY I DON'T PREJUDGE IT.
I WILL ADVISE COUNSEL AT THE TIME WHAT THE LEGAL STANDARD IS.
COUNSEL WILL THEN HEAR THE EVIDENCE AND DECIDE, WELL, LET'S SEE, DO YOU COME UNDER B OR NOT? BUT I KNOW IT.
MOST OF YOU WOULD RATHER YOU KNOW HOW IT IS TO SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER THIS.
DON'T SUBMIT THIS APPLICATION AND GO ON WITH YOUR LIVES.
AS FAR AS LAWYERS, THEY ROUTINELY CONTACT ME.
I'M PRETTY TRANSPARENT ON MY LEGAL OPINIONS.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU AND I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE HAD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
HOW DOES THINGS PROCEED IF YOU CALL ME? CERTAINLY. YOU CAN'T JUST WALK INTO MY OFFICE.
BUT SO LONG AS YOU CONTACT AND WE MAKE APPOINTMENT, I AM WILLING TO TELL PEOPLE HOW THINGS PROCEED.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LAND USE? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ZONING? IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS UNIQUE TO THIS PARTICULAR PERSON.
AND IF YOU TALK AMONG YOURSELVES, WE'LL WILL FIND OUT.
I'VE HAD NO PROBLEM TALKING WITH MANY OF YOUR MEMBERS.
THIS IS JUST HOW THINGS HAPPEN HAS TO PROCEED.
I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED ANYTHING, MAYOR.
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NO, MA'AM. I WAS WAITING ON SECTION 51, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME.SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE SHARE IN YOUR FRUSTRATIONS.
BUT THERE IS A DUE PROCESS THAT WE WE'RE SUBJECT TO.
SO AT THIS POINT, BEFORE WE GO ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WOULD YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS? I DIDN'T QUITE EXPECT THAT.
DAMN THOUGH FROM WEST MELBOURNE AND I WON'T EVEN GO THERE.
WE ARE THE SECOND BEST CITY IN THE.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE.
THE DUE PROCESS AND GOING THROUGH AND IT'S REALLY QUITE AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
I'M ACTUALLY HERE SUPPORTING SUSAN IN HER EFFORTS, HER THREE T SHIRTS.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IF SHE WAS GOING TO GO FURTHER, BUT I WAS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND AND WE ALSO WE'RE BLESSED TO TO HAVE TODAY AMONG US THE FORMER NOSE GUARD OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, FORMER BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND FORMER PALM BAY CITY COUNCILMAN ROBIN FISHER IS AMONG US TODAY.
AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THIS YOUNG MAN REALLY BOUGHT THE PAIN WHEN HE PLAYED.
COMMISSIONER FISHER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE A FEW WORDS? THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION.
AND I'M LEAVING TITUSVILLE AND REPRESENT THE THIRD BEST CITY IN.
WELL, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, MADAM SMITH.
YEAH? I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING BRIEFLY.
ME AND MR. BATTEN USUALLY GET ALONG ON A LOT.
AND WHAT YOU STATED, WHILE IT'S VALID, I THINK IS MISPLACED IN THIS MOMENT RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, SIR, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS.
YOU KNOW, I'M A GUN OWNER MYSELF AND I'M I CHAMPION THE CLUB HERE LOCALLY IN BREVARD COUNTY IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, BEING A GUN CLUB, ONE OF THE ONLY ONES HERE IN BREVARD. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I CAN SAY, LIKE EVEN FOR MY SON, HE'S TWO YEARS OLD NOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO EMPHASIZE ON THIS RIGHT HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND, SIR, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I YOU ECHOED YOUR OPINION.
YOU KNOW, I HAD TO ECHO MINE AS WELL.
SO BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO SHOOTING AT THE RANGE ANYTIME.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
SO DON'T DON'T WAIT TILL THEY'RE THEY'RE 18.
I SAY THEY RESPECT THE WEAPON AT AN EARLY AGE.
AND LET ME ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THAT.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS (Part 2 of 2)]
MADAM SMITH, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER ONE, THREE, NINE, TEN, 14, 15 AND 17.
ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY PARTY COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING A SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY AS COMPLY WITH SECTION 52 9.03 OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT THEN WILL BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
THE HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS IN FREE TO VOTE, IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.
YES, SIR. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
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HI. MY NAME IS FRANCISCO FELICIANO.I LIVE IN 7-ELEVEN DEALER DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF WHAT I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I SUBMITTED A VARIANCE.
IN DECEMBER, WE PUT A 520 SQUARE FEET SLAB.
THE THING IS THAT IT GOES EIGHT FEET INTO THE 20 FOOT BASELINE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE AFRICAN COUNCIL.
ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO BRING UP? STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
AND SO ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? EVERY MAYOR AND EACH SPEAKER.
FOR VARIANCE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED SCREEN LANAI TO ENCROACH EIGHT FEET INTO THE 20 FOOT REAR SETBACK.
SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON FELICIANO.
DID YOU SAY, SIR? SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NOT ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MS..
AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY, KNOWN AS KINNEY AVENUE, NORTHEAST LINE BETWEEN ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AND WATER DRIVE AS RECORDED AND LOOK TO PAGE FOUR FOR THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHO ARE YOU, SIR? GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BRUCE MOYE WITH MBCHB ENGINEERING, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
FIRSTLY, NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT GOLF COURSES OR GUNS.
YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THIS ONCE BEFORE, SO NOW WE JUST WANT TO OFFICIALLY VACATE IT AND JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED BY STAFF. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THERE YOU STILL GO WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS LISTED? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? THE STAFF. THANK YOU, MR. MOYER. ANY COMMENTS, MADAM CHAIRMAN? NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU.
HEY, ANY SPEAKER SPEAKERS? DEPUTY MAYOR. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED IN ITS 2022 DASH 55 FINAL READING TO INCLUDE THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN A MOTION BY EXCUSE ME, DEPUTY MAYOR OF JOHNSON.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. AS YOU WERE.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM B MOVIE BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT TO BE A MEU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL IN THE VICINITY WEST OF DIXIE HIGHWAY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDE BEING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THIS IS A FINAL READING OF A REZONING REQUEST THAT YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE.
THIS IS THE TWO PARCELS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU JUST VACATED TO MAKE THIS A WHOLE PARCEL, AND SO THAT WE CAN DO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL INCLUDE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNCIL? AND YOU SPEAK, OF COURSE, DEPUTY MAYOR.
OKAY. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED IN ITS 2020 225 FINAL READING SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 13 PLOT 1533 COURT MALABAR UNIT 31, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 17 PAGE 28.GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS PEDRO HERNANDEZ.
I LIVE AT 295 GASPER STREET, SOUTH WEST PALM BAY.
I AM ASKING TO VACATE EIGHT FEET OF THE 20 FOOT EASEMENT TO BE ABLE TO PLACE A POOL IN MY BACKYARD WITH A CLOSED, CLOSED AND SCREENED ENCLOSURE.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE AFRICAN COUNCIL? CNN. THANK YOU, SIR.
OKAY, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR EMOTION.
MOST OF THE PROOF WORD IS 2022.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION TO APPROVE ORNETTE'S 2022 DASH 56 FINAL READING.
I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
WHAT IS 2020 257? AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACANT AND ABANDONED.
AND A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 29 LOT 2082 PORT MALABAR UNIT 46, ACCORDING TO THE PLOT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT 22, PAGE 71, THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
MAYOR MEDINA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M RUSS STEEL. THIS IS LOUISE.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A TEN FOOT VACATE OF THE 20 FOOT REAR EASEMENT OF OUR PROPERTY IN WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSTRUCT A POOL WITH A SCREEN ENCLOSURE. ASK ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT.
I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU, MR. STEEL, SINCE WE COACH FOOTBALL YEARS AGO.
YES, SIR. CHILDREN OR ADULTS TODAY? YEP. IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU, SIR.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, TOO. THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 57 FINAL READING.
SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA.
AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 LAWS SUBCHAPTER.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.
A REVISE IN THE COMPOSITION AND DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD.
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF AUTOPSIES IN CONFLICT.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MS..
THIS IS FINAL READING, SO NOTHING FURTHER UNLESS HER QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? AND ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST.
THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARDS ANNUAL REPORT THAT GETS PRESENTED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT WAS EVEN A FUNCTION THAT WAS WITHIN THE CITY.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT THE CASE IS OR NOT, BUT.
IT DEFINITELY SOMETHING I THINK BILL BATTEN SHOULD HAVE YOU LOOK AT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. AND MADAM SHERMAN, I HAVE TO SAY, I'VE WITNESSED THAT ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHEN TWO DIFFERENT FEDERAL AGENCIES DON'T SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD CONSIDER THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THE PROCESS, THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.
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IF YOU'D LIKE STAFF TO COME UP, I CAN HAVE NANCY BUNT, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, SHARE MORE.I THINK IT WOULD WARRANT THAT.
GOOD EVENING, NANCY BROWN, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
SO ANNUALLY THE CDA BOARD NEEDS TO EVALUATE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA, DIFFERENT INCENTIVES.
AND DURING THAT EVALUATION WE DISCUSS VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, VICE MAYOR JOHNSON SITS ON THE BOARD.
AND THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
YES, SIR. AND THEN TO ADD TO THAT BEING THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD WOULD WARRANT THAT HAD TO GO TO PLANNING, ZONING. CORRECT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I COVER THE MASTER CHIEF.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SO YOU'RE NOT. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED AND IT'S 2022 DASH 58 FINAL READING.
SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
HE FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? IN ALL IN FAVOR HIGH AND THE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
THE MEANING OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
TITLE 11 BUSINESS REGULATIONS.
SUBCHAPTER BUSINESS TAXES TAX RECEIPTS, RECEIPTS OR REVISED PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDNANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
RIGHT. OF COURSE. SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? IN NONE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU. NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
AS SECTION 110.37 EVIDENCE OF ENGAGING IN BUSINESS INSTEAD OF THE PREVIOUS WORDING.
THE NEW WORDING IS SIGN, NEWSPAPER, MAGAZINE, TELEPHONE, OR THE DISTRIBUTION OF ANY ADVERTISING MATTER OR MATERIAL OR IN ANY OTHER WAY INDICATING ENGAGEMENT IN A BUSINESS, PROFESSION OR OCCUPATION SHALL BE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF THE ENGAGING IN AND CARRYING ON THE BUSINESS IN THE CITY SO ADVERTISED.
FROM THE STANCE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LAW THAT IS DISTURBINGLY VAGUE WORDING ANY OTHER WAY INDICATING IS IMMEDIATELY CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE.
THOSE ARE DEEPLY CONTRADICTORY WHEN IT COMES TO.
FROM WHAT I KNOW OF WHAT I KNOW OF THESE MATTERS, THE ORIGINAL WORDING IN THE SECTION 110.41 HOME BUSINESS TAX INCLUDED AT THE VERY BEGINNING. THE THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE A PERSON MEANS OF ESTABLISHING AN AUTHORIZED HOME BUSINESS ADDRESS.
THAT ENTIRE SECTION IS TAKEN AWAY AND INSTEAD A MUCH MORE FORCEFUL LANGUAGE FOLLOWED BY.
FEES. WHICH AGAIN, ARE A LITTLE VAGUE AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME DRAMATICALLY RESTRICTIVE.
AND POSSIBLY, IF YOU WERE THE WRONG KIND OF BUSINESS, EVEN AN ADDITIONAL 100 PLUS DOLLARS, ALL OTHER BUSINESSES IS $210 IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER AMOUNT.
AND THESE OCCUPATIONS INCLUDE SELF EMPLOYED, THE VAGUEST AND MOST GENERAL OF ALL EMPLOYMENT.
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AND THAT'S $131.25 IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER APPLICABLE FEES JUST TO WORK OUT OF YOUR HOME.THAT COMBINED WITH THE VAGUE WORDING OF WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM IS PREPARED FOR INDUCTION INTO AUDIENCES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.
I'M SURE SHE'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. HERE ON THE SECTION ONE 10.37, THE EVIDENCE OF ENGAGING IN A BUSINESS.
SO WE JUST MORE CLEARLY WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DEFINE THAT.
AND SO ANY BUSINESS THAT IS DEEMED BY THE CITY STAFF THAT THEY ARE OPERATING, THEY WOULD BE THEY AND WITHOUT THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, THEY WOULD BE CITED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
SO THEY WOULD THEY WOULD RECEIVE THAT NOTICE OF OPERATING WITHOUT A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.
SO THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED THROUGH THAT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
SO THE SECOND SECTION ON HOME BASED TAX, HOME BUSINESS, WE ACTUALLY REFERRED THIS, THE FLORIDA STATUTES, SECTION 559.955 DETERMINE BETTER DEFINE THE FLORIDA LEGISLATOR BEDROOM DEFINED HOME BASED BUSINESSES.
AND SO WE'RE IN LINE WITH THAT.
OUR HOME BASED BUSINESS SECTION DID NOT LINE UP WITH THE CURRENT FLORIDA STATUTES.
SO ALL WE DID WAS MAKE THAT REVISION.
AND SO ALL I DID WAS WE TOOK OUT THE THE DIFFERENT RATES, ACTUALLY MADE IT SIMPLIFIED IT FOR ANY HOME BASED BUSINESS, IT'S 100, $105. SO THE LEAST EXPENSIVE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT WOULD BE THE HOME BASED BUSINESS AND THEN REGULAR BUSINESS WOULD BE THE 210. AND SO WE'VE JUST CLEANED IT UP BECAUSE IT ESCALATED EVERY YEAR, 25%.
AND SINCE THAT WAS REACHED IN FOUR YEARS, THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE ALL THIS IN THERE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, COUNSEL.
IT'S THE HARDEST BUSINESS TO CAPTURE, AM I CORRECT? YES. THE CITY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOME BASED BUSINESS ARE THERE.
AM I CORRECT? SO SOMEONE CAN OPERATE A HOME BASED BUSINESS AND NOT FILE A TAX RECEIPT? CORRECT. SO THE HONEST PEOPLE ARE FILING THIS TAX RECEIPT.
WE ALSO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU CAN OPERATE YOUR HOME BASED BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT, CAN YOU? YOU CAN. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
EXACTLY. WHAT WAS THIS? DO YOU KNOW THE FLORIDA STATUTE FOR HOME BASED BUSINESS AS IT IS NOW THAT WE CHANGED TO.
YES. AND YOU BRIEFLY GIVE ME A SYNOPSIS OF OK.
I MEAN, IT BASICALLY DEFINES WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES CAN BE THERE.
THEY CANNOT HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THERE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE SALES THERE.
THAT WON'T BE A HOME BASED BUSINESS.
OUTDOOR STORAGE, STORING OF CHEMICALS THAT WOULD NEED TO GO INTO A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE CHANGING TO COMPLIES WITH STATE STATUTE.
YES. AND WE CURRENTLY WERE NOT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE 2020 259 FINAL READING SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED
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BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.HI. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'RE GOING ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.
SO WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
RESOLUTION 2022 DOES 23, A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA.
MCCAIN AND A PORTION OF THE PLOT KNOWN AS MALABAR UNIT 15 AS RECORDED IN BOOK 15 PAGES, 72 THROUGH 79 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE LOOKING TO VACATE APPROXIMATELY 7500 FEET OF ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH WETLANDS WITHIN A PROPERTY THAT WE OWN IN ORDER TO OPEN A RECYCLING FACILITY, WHICH REGARDS WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT FOR QUITE A FEW MEETINGS NOW.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, COUNSELOR? JUST JUST ONE QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
NO, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE AN 8 TO 5.
YEAH. THANK YOU, SIR. IN ACCORDANCE TO WHATEVER THE REGULATIONS OF NOISE WILL BE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR.
STAFF COMMENTS? NO, SIR. STAFF IS FINE WITH IT.
THIS IS A HISTORICAL PLOT THAT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH WHAT THE INTENDED USE OF THE PROPERTY IS NOW.
SO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK.
MASTER CHIEF. THEN, MISS CONNELLY.
GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
IT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TYPE OF BEHAVIOR WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE AND DO.
WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT OF THE TOTAL PREMISE? IF WE'RE IN FOR THE PERCENTAGE VIOLATION BECAUSE IT IS A LOT.
AND ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF THE DRAINAGE AREA ON THIS? BECAUSE WHAT IS BEING VACATED WAS THE SWELLS AND DRAINAGE WITHIN THAT PROPERTY.
BUT FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF, I LOVE IT AND THIS COMPANY IS A GREAT COMPANY.
AND LIKE YOU SAY, I'M GLAD THEY'RE IN PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. THEY'VE DONE WORK FOR ME, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I WON'T BE ME.
SO BEFORE WE ASK MISS CONNELLY, CAN WE RESPOND TO THOSE? BILL IS MISS AS MUCH AS YOU BUST EVERYBODY ELSE'S CHOPS, I'M GOING TO BUST YOURS.
IT ACTUALLY SAYS IT'S A 35.88 ACRE PARCEL.
THERE'S ABOUT 7500 FOOT OF ROADWAYS THROUGH THAT 35.8 ACRE PARCEL, THE DRAINAGE.
SO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HAVE THE RIGHT DRAINAGE, OF COURSE, WHICH THAT'S THE CITY'S PROCESS.
ANY STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING DRAINAGE? NO, SIR. THE APPLICANT IS CORRECT.
THAT'S PART OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW ONCE WE GET TO THAT STAGE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM CONNOLLY.
SUSAN CONNOLLY, 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
I'M SPEAKING AS A CITIZEN RIGHT NOW AND ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE CASTAWAY COVE CONDOMINIUMS. WE USE THE FLAWLESS LAWN CARE AND LANDSCAPE COMPANY FOR OUR OUR LAWN CARE.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WAS BECAUSE I THE MAYOR SPOTLIGHTED THIS BUSINESS AT ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND TALKED ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL TO TAKE TREE TRIMMINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TURN THEM INTO MULCH.
AND I'VE LEARNED BY TALKING TO LISA CRUM THAT A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE SOLD FOR BIODIESEL.
BIOFUELS, AND I'M HOPING MORE OF IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM?
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YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION HERE.YES. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2020 223, VACATING A PORTION OF THE PLOT KNOWN AS PORT MALABAR TO PROP PROPERTIES LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO FOUNDATION PARK BOULEVARD, IN THE VICINITY EAST OF UNDERHILL AVENUE AND WEST OF BABCOCK STREET.
COUNCILMAN FOR THE SECOND IN A SECOND.
SO YOU NEED THAT LIGHT BUTTON.
A LITTLE DARKER. I'M A LITTLE OLDER.
HE'S A LITTLE YOUNGER. YOU THINK? YEAH, I THINK I GOT HIM MOST FROM MY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SINGING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. HIGH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR DOING BUSINESS IN PALM BAY.
ITEM NUMBER NINE RESOLUTION 2020 224 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CHURCH IN THIS ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SEVEN, ADJACENT TO ORLOV ROAD IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF EMERSON DRIVE AND LEGAL, DESCRIBED HEREIN RUNNING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDING FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
AND AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CALEB PHELPS.
IN OCTOBER 2018, THE CONGREGATION THERE AT FAITH CALLED ME TO BE THE PASTOR THERE.
MRS. LORI BURRUS, OUR OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR, ACTED AS MY PROXY ON MAY FOUR, 2022 FOR THE ZONING AND PLANNING MEETING THERE, WHERE THE MEMBERS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE OUR APPLICATION. AND PRESENTING THIS THIS EVENING TO YOU ASK THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND YOU AGREED TO STAFF CONDITION REGARDING EXECUTING A PARKING AGREEMENT? YES. BOTH SIDES, YES.
AS WELL AS THE CONDITION FROM THE P AND Z FOR A 25 PERSON LIMIT FOR CLASSES.
OKAY. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS IS COMING FOR COUNCIL.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WHEN THAT CHURCH PURCHASES THIS HOUSE, DO DO WE LOSE TAXES ON THE HOUSE? I USED HER, UH, THIS PROPERTY, I THINK IT WAS PURCHASED IN 2015.
AND IT IS IF YOU LOOK AT PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE, IT IS THE USE HAS BEEN CHANGED.
SO IT IS TAX EXEMPT AT THIS POINT.
GOTCHA. THANK YOU. I ALSO I SUPPORT A CLERGY HOUSE 100%.
I MEAN, ALMOST EVERY CHURCH HAS ONE.
BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THERE CAN WE MAKE THIS PROCESS EASIER FOR THE CHURCHES TO DO OR CAN WE EVEN EXPLORE AN OPTION FOR FOR THE CHURCH TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND STILL INSTEAD OF BUYING A HOUSE IN PALM BAY.
UM, CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THOSE, SIR? WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
AND I GIVE AN EXAMPLE AS THE OLD RICHARD PREBLE PROPERTY.
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THAT'S PEACE LUTHERAN CHURCH ON CLAREMONT AND MALABAR.THAT WAS THAT WAS A CLERGY HOUSE.
AND THEN RICHARD PREBBLE CAME IN AND BOUGHT THAT HOUSE FROM THE CHURCH.
SO USUALLY CHURCHES HAVE THEIR OWN CLERGY HOUSES.
THAT'S WHY IF THE CHURCH HAS A LAND, THEY SHOULD BUILD ON THE LAND INSTEAD OF BUYING A HOUSE.
THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
SO JUST TO, I GUESS, UM, IF IT COMES TO THE USE OF A PROPERTY AND IT'S RESIDENTIAL, IT'S MORE OF A ZONING FUNCTION IF THE, THE CHURCH OR WHOMEVER IS LOOKING AT AN EXISTING PARCEL TO CHANGE THE USE FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED.
SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NOT AN ADMINISTRATIVE PATH FOR STAFF TO DO THAT.
THAT ALWAYS WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S CERTAINLY I CAN TALK FURTHER WITH STAFF AND WITH CITY ATTORNEY, SIR, TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS ANY PARTICULAR ROLE WE COULD PLAY WITH REGARD TO ENCOURAGING CHURCHES TO BUILD THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
IF COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY FOR STAFF TO EXPLORE THAT.
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, THERE IS MANY THERE ARE MANY CHURCHES IN PALM BAY AND THIS IS ONLY BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR A SHORT TIME AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME A CHURCH HAS REQUESTED FOR A HOUSE WHICH WE LOSE TAX DOLLARS ON.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP.
I FULLY SUPPORT A CLERGY HOUSE, AND I'M I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS THIS ITEM.
THAT I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
SOME SOME CLERGY FACILITIES DON'T HAVE THAT SPACE.
BUT I DO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE APPLICANT, AND I WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY A FEW THINGS, PASTOR.
IT'S FOR COUNSELING SESSIONS IN OFFICES.
COUNSELING SESSIONS? YES. AND NO MORE THAN X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
WE REALLY CAN'T EVEN FIT MORE THAN 25.
AND THAT WAS WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY TOLD.
BUT FACILITIES WISE THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIT MORE THAN THAT ANYWAYS.
SO MORE LIKE FAMILY COUNSELING.
COUNSELING AND OFFICES IS THE PREDOMINANT USE.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2020 224.
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEE AND ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
RESOLUTION 2022 DOES 25 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING MINING EXCAVATION OPERATION IN JGU.
GENERAL USE HOLDING DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BABCOCK STREET AND CENTER LANE ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, RAN THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDING FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR THE RECORD, I'M ROB SHUTER, LAND USE ATTORNEY FOR BABCOCK LLC, THE PROPERTY OWNER OF REPRESENTED THEM SINCE THEY ANNEXED INTO THIS CITY TEN YEARS AGO. THIS IS OUR THIRD AND FINAL MINING PHASE.
WE'VE BEEN HERE TWICE BEFORE AND RECEIVED CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
THIS IS OUR FINAL PHASE THREE FOR OUR COCAINE EXTRACTION OPERATION.
WE'VE WERE BUSY ON A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND CONTRACTORS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OPEN AND SERVING THEIR MATERIAL NEEDS.
WE'VE HAD HAD A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING.
THEIR REPORT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
WE'VE BEEN BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD THAT UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
THE STAFF HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH EIGHT CONDITIONS.
WE AGREE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
THOSE ARE THE SAME EIGHT CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE ON PHASES TWO AND PHASE ONE.
SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THAT YOU APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2022 TO 25.
AND SO WE CAN PROCEED TO OPERATE AT THIRD PHASE.
I CAN ASK ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE OUR ENGINEER WITH US TONIGHT, MR. HASSAN KAMAL, FOR ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR OPERATION OUT THERE, IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, CERTAINLY IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC OR COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL.
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I SAW YOU TURNING, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION.SO YOU ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND REACHED OUT TO THE DEER RUN RESIDENCE? OH, ABSOLUTELY. WE PROVIDED THEM WE PROVIDE THEM WITH A LETTER NOTICE AND WHOLE COMMUNITY.
WE JUST DO IT TO THE REGISTERED OFFICE OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS.
AND OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD THE SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
SO. WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY WE'RE PRETTY FAR SOUTH.
AND ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC TRUCK TRAFFIC COMES IN AT CENTER LANE.
NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE STILL HAVE PHASES ONE AND TWO ARE OPERATIONAL.
THAT CLEARED A FEW OF MY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. KERRY, I HAD A QUESTION.
WAS A CITY MANAGER JUST REGARDING IMPACT FEES ON THIS PROPERTY? DO WE RECEIVE IMPACT FEES FROM THIS OR.
AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED HOW MUCH WAS RECEIVED SINCE THIS OPERATION BEGAN.
I DID I DID HAVE STAFF START TO LOOK THROUGH THAT.
AND FROM WHAT WE COULD GATHER, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A PASSED PAYMENT OF IMPACT FEES.
THERE'S NOT BEEN A DEVELOPMENT OF A STRUCTURE.
BUT I DO STILL HAVE STAFF RESEARCHING THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU.
I. I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY IN THE FINAL PHASES.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO I'M NOT GOING TO.
I CAN ADDRESS. GO AHEAD, MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. MAY I ADDRESS? THIS IS AN INTERIM USE OF THE PROPERTY.
WE ANNEX 2200 ACRES INTO THE CITY IN 2010.
WE HAVE OUR OWN FUTURE LAND USE.
WE'RE NOW PLANNING THAT AS WE SPEAK.
THIS MINING OPERATION WILL BE EXHAUSTED FAIRLY QUICKLY.
AND I SAY FAIRLY QUICKLY, I MEAN, ASSUMING WE CONTINUE WITH THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, SO WE'RE READY FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE DESIGNED THE THE LAKES TO BE SURROUNDED BY STRUCTURES.
IT'S NOT JUST IT'S NOT JUST A MINING ACTIVITY.
SO WE'RE SOON TO BE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.
EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING ON BABCOCK STREET.
THERE'S THE NEW HERITAGE PARKWAY, THE INTERCHANGE AT I-90 FIVE.
SO THAT AREA IS GOING VERY FAST.
BUT THERE ARE NO IMPACT FEES ON TECHNICALLY ON THE MINING ACTIVITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WE WERE ALSO REQUIRED TO DO AN EXTENSIVE APRON AND LINING FROM THE COUNTY ON BABCOCK STREET.
SO WE'VE THOSE WERE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR US TO OPEN UP AND THEN HAVE THE MINING ACTIVITY THERE.
THANK YOU, SIR. YOU'VE DONE YOUR FAIR SHARE ENOUGH FORWARD TO DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE AFRICAN COUNCIL? THANK YOU. LET ME SPEAK.
OKAY. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION.
SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SO YOU'RE NOT ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE WE ACTUALLY WITHDREW 11 AND 12 AND WE ARE NOW ON 13.
MADAM SMITH, IT IS 20, 22, 62, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
VAR COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 93.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAL, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
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ADAM, 13.TO SURVIVE. MR. MAYOR, COUNCILOR BRUCE MOIR WITH MOVE ENGINEERING.
I AM STEPPING IN FOR MY ENGINEER WAS PREVIOUSLY WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
HE HAD A MEDICAL ISSUE AND WAS JUST RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL.
SO I AM FILLING IN FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE I'VE COME TO THIS BOARD WITH THIS PROPERTY AND I'VE WORKED ON IT WITH FOUR OTHER DEVELOPERS OVER THE YEARS.
SO JUST THIS, THIS ONE ITEM AND I'LL STICK TO THIS, THIS ONE ITEM IS JUST TO CHANGE THE THE LAND USE FOR THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN ON THE RIVERSIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE OF US, ONE WHICH IS A LONG, SKINNY STRIP THAT RUNS FROM THEIR NORTH PROPERTY LINE SOUTH, EVEN FURTHER SOUTH AND PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.
SO IT'S A COMPANION REQUEST FROM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT ITEM.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, MR. MOORE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON THIS EAST SIDE OF US ONE.
CORRECT. AND I DO WANT TO PASS THIS OUT.
SO THERE WAS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE CONDITION ON THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE ONE OF THE PART OF THE SUBMITTAL WAS A CONCEPT PLAN. IT WAS VERY PREMATURE, IS VERY CONCEPTUAL, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE HELD TO BE IN SIGNIFICANT COMPLIANCE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE BECAUSE WE'RE OVER THE TEN ACRES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE ON THE NEXT ONE, I'D RATHER REPLACE IT WITH THAT LANGUAGE.
AND TO ANSWER COUNCILMAN PHIL ALBERTO'S QUESTION THAT WE WILL NOT BE BUILDING ANY STRUCTURES, WE WOULD NOT COUNT THIS PROPERTY AS DENSITY FOR THE PROPERTY ON THE EAST, ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THAT WE WOULD ONLY USE IT FOR AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT NEXT. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD.
FOR FLIP THAT LANGUAGE AS A CONDITION OF THE APPROVAL.
AND AS ONE OF IT IS FOR THIS THIS ORDINANCE, THEN ONE WOULD BE FOR THE NEXT.
AND I HATE TO SPRING THIS ON YOU AT THE LAST MINUTE, BUT I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, IF IT GETS APPROVED AND WE GO TO STAFF WITH A PLAN THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED, WE DON'T WANT STAFF TO SAY, WELL, THIS ISN'T WHAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED, BUT WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL WITH AN ACTUAL PLAN. IT'S IT'S RARE THAT WE EVEN PROVIDE A PLAN FOR A REZONING OR A LAND USE.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM OUR OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU HAVE A COPY OF OF THIS ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL? YES, MAYOR.
AND AS I'VE STATED BEFORE, IT SOMETIMES SNEAKS ITS WAY IN.
AND I KNOW MR. MOYE STARTED OFF, I THINK, BECAUSE HE'S HEARD MY SPIEL SO MANY TIMES ABOUT HOW I LIKE TO HAVE THE LAND USE PROCEED FIRST AND DEAL WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S LEGISLATIVE AND DEAL WITH THE REZONING AND A PART OF WHAT HE HAS IN HERE AND THIS ORDINANCE, THIS IS THE LAND USE, THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS ACTUALLY CONDITIONS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I KNOW THE MAYOR IS HAS PICKED IT UP AND HE'S VERY GOOD EVEN WHEN I WASN'T HERE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE CONDITIONS NOT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT ON THE REZONING.
SO I ACTUALLY WOULD NOT WANT THIS LANGUAGE TO BE IN THIS ORDINANCE AND ACTUALLY THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION THREE, ACTUALLY, WE SHOULD PASS WITHOUT IT AT ALL.
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OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS PART OF THE REZONING AND NOT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.SO IF WE TAKE THAT CONDITION OUT COMPLETELY, THAT'S GREAT AND WE'LL JUST TACK IT ON TO THE ZONING.
THAT'S SO. MR. MOYE. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
THESE SPEAK. JUST BECAUSE ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
IN. I MEAN, EMOTIONAL MOTION IMPROVED CP 2220 22/2 MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. MAYOR? YES, MA'AM. IF YOU COULD INCLUDE IN THE MOTION TO REMOVE THE LANGUAGE OF SECTION THREE FROM THE ORDINANCE.
SO WHY DON'T WE GO BACK A LITTLE BIT? DESTROY YOUR SECOND.
AND I AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE REMOVING OF SECTION THREE.
READY? YOUR SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON MADE THE MOTION SECOND.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
OR IS 2020 263? AS YOU WERE, 14, 14.
NOW YOU CAN INCLUDE THE CONDITION.
CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM P CRD PLAN, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, H C HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND RS ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO B AMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST AND WEST OF DIXIE HIGHWAY AND VICINITY SOUTH OF WARREN ROAD, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALLOW MR. MOYA TO PRESENT THIS CASE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND COUNCIL BRUCE MOYE AGAIN FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO, YES, SO THIS IS THE REZONING.
THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THOSE AND GO WITH THEIR BEAMS. MIXED USE ZONING. SO THE PLAN IS TO DO A MIXED DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE ANY UNITS, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT AREA AND MAKE ALLOW MORE DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO USE IT FOR A NICE AMENITY, CLEAN IT UP, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY GET SOME NICE RIVERFRONT VISIBILITY AND MAYBE SOME KIND OF A BOARDWALK OR WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF.
WE THINK A MIXED USE IN THIS AREA WOULD BE PERFECT.
AND WE LOVE YOUR NEW BEAM ZONING THAT YOU GUYS JUST RECENTLY PASSED AND WE THINK THAT WE CAN MEET ALL THE COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE DENSITY ON THE MULTIFAMILY THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US THAT THAT COMMERCIAL.
REMEMBER THE LAST YOU GET THAT OTHER 10%.
AND WE REALLY WE'RE PROUD OF THE WORK THAT PATRICK DID IN ACHIEVING THAT GOAL FOR CANDICE.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, MR. MAYOR? COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SO I SEE THESE 300 MULTIFAMILY UNITS ALONG WITH 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL TO BE DEVELOPED.
BUT IN YOUR LETTER IT SAYS THE COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AT A LATER DATE.
AND YOU EXPLAIN THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER COME AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
TOD JACOBUS FROM WOODFIELD DEVELOPMENT AND THE OWNERS OF 4600 DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.
AND THAT'S THE FOUR PARCELS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
SO AS MR. MOYA STATED, WE HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN THAT COMPLIES WITH THE IMU.
AND THEN PER THE CALCULATIONS THAT MR. MOYA'S COLLEAGUE DAVID BASHFORD PRODUCED IN OUR ARCHITECT, IT WAS ABOUT 17,000 FEET OF GROUND SQUARE, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
IT WAS A LETTER FROM MOVIE ENGINEERING.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME THEN.
ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD THE COMMERCIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY AT THE SAME TIME?
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YES, OF COURSE.YEAH. IT'S INTEGRAL TO THE IN THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE DOING.
IT'S INTEGRAL TO THE TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHERE THIS LETTER FROM ABOVE KIND OF CONCERNED ME.
SO I WAS WONDERING, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH MAKING IT AS A CONDITION, BUILDING THE COMMERCIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY AT THE SAME TIME? NOT AT ALL. NOT AT ALL.
WHAT WOULD COUNCIL BE OKAY WITH THIS? NO, THIS IS THIS IS RIGHT ON POINT.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE HEART OF THE COUNCIL WE EXPERIENCED WHERE THERE IS THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND AFTER THE FACT.
RIGHT. SO I THINK YOU HAVE THE HEART OF THIS COUNCIL WHEN WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT.
GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THE 2.5 ACRES TO THE EAST TO LONG EIGHT.
IT'S ON LONG US ONE, WHICH IS A MAJOR ROAD WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE SAYING THAT'S THEIR AMENITIES.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCONNECT BY BILL BATTEN STANDARD IN THAT PROCESS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF US ONE.
ALL OF THAT MAKES SENSE BUT NOT WHAT THE WITH THEIR AMENITY SIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF US ONE.
ALL RIGHT. SO BILL BATTEN BEING THE IDIOT HE IS, WHY ARE WE RISK LIFE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THEIR GREEN SPACE WHEN THERE IS NO GREEN SPACE IN THEIR ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT? THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING AT WITH THIS ONE.
HOWEVER, LOOKING FOR THE DOLLAR BILL FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THAT PROPERTY ALONG THE RIVER ONLY BROUGHT IN $4.07 IN TAXES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
ONE. THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BUILD ITSELF, I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE CITY NEEDS THERE.
BUT THERE ARE AMENITIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A MAJOR HIGHWAY FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
YES, SIR. YOU WANT TO ADDRESS? YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ALL OF THEM.
SO, YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. BOWDEN. SO ALL THE AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS WILL BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A RIVERFRONT COMPONENT, JUST LIKE BAREFOOT BAY, WHERE WE MAYBE WILL HAVE A PIER OR IF PEOPLE WANT TO CROSS THE STREET, ADDED LIGHTED INTERSECTION WITH THE DEDICATED CROSSWALK THAT THEY CAN SAFELY CROSS THE ROAD AT.
SO WE JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT FOR ADDITIONAL DENSITY BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A CONCERN PRIOR.
SO WE MADE SURE THAT THAT'S A CONDITION AND THAT WE HOPE THAT WE CAN CLEAN IT UP.
AND SO IT WILL BE A NICE RIVER VIEW FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND ALL YOUR RESIDENTS.
AND IF WE CAN PUT A NICE PIER FOR THE END, IT WON'T BE.
MAYBE IT'LL BE FOR THESE ROADS.
MAYBE IT'LL BE PUBLIC AND OPEN.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION.
SO I THINK IF THEY CAN GET ACROSS THE ROAD, THESE GUYS SHOULD BE OKAY.
ARE YOU BRINGING UP BEDFORD BAY? BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, THE COMMENT OF THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL ON US, ONE QUARTER BEDFORD BAY CAME UP AND THEN NORTH OF THAT THE PUBLIC'S WHY YOU STILL I CAN THINK OF THAT HAS LIKE AN AMENITY ACROSS US ONE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY LONG PIER.
YES, SIR. YEAH, I'M SO FAMILIAR WITH.
I USED TO BE THEIR ENGINEER, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH BAREFOOT BAY.
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COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YEAH.THERE ISN'T. THERE IS A CROSSWALK THERE.
THERE IS. IF YOU HAVE A WALK ACROSS THERE, THE LIGHT TO CHANGE GREEN AND RED.
AND YOU HAVE YOU EVER WALK ACROSS OF I PERSONALLY? NO, PERSONALLY, NO, NO, NO.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT INTERSECTION.
I DON'T I DON'T SEE A DANGER IN IT.
THEY SHOULD JUST WALK WHEN THEY LIGHT IT AND PAY ATTENTION.
IT'S NOT YOUR TURN TO WALK ACROSS YET.
MIGHT BE A LITTLE DANGEROUS, BUT IF YOU WAIT, YOU COULD GET ACROSS PRETTY.
AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2022 63/1 READING WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THE REVISION OF TWO A I'LL READ IT OUT.
THE 2.49 ACRE TRACK ON THE EAST SIDE OF US.
ONE SHALL NOT BE USED IN THE ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL UNIT DENSITY CALCULATIONS, AND IT SHALL NOT BE DEVELOPED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE THAN AS AN ACTIVE OR PASSIVE ACTIVITY AMENITY TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS OF THE 10.28 ACRE TRACT ON THE WEST SIDE OF US.
AND TO INCLUDE THAT BOTH MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL WILL BE DEVELOPED COLLECTIVELY AT THE SAME TIME.
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN, REGARDING THIS PROJECT? IF I MAY, SIR. COUNCILMAN FELIX.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
IT'S FOR. FOR TOO LONG, WE'VE.
TO ME, IT'S. IT'S PRIME PROPERTIES, SO IT'S ABOUT TIME.
SOMETHING SOME KIND OF MOVEMENT GOING ON HERE.
I WANT TO SAY TO THE DEVELOPER, THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING PALM BAY DEVELOP IN THIS PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO ADD A LOT OF VALUE TO THE CITY.
I HOPE QUITE SURE YOU PROBABLY USE THIS CONCEPT SOMEWHERE ELSE BEFORE AND IT WORKS.
SO I KNOW YOU HAVE SUCCESS DOING THIS.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS.
SO THANK YOU. WE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
WE HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO DEVELOP IN PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ROUND THAT OUT.
THE LONG TIME RESIDENT RIGHT OF THIS COMMUNITY, THAT WAS A HUGE COMMERCIAL.
OUR BASE FOR THIS CITY BACK IN THE DAY.
YOU HAVE WINN-DIXIE ALONG WITH OTHER SHOPS, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING COMMERCIAL AND BUILDING AS COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SO ELOQUENTLY MENTIONED AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNCIL.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN OUR IN OUR CITY.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING GOOD BYE, COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM 15 MISS SMITH ORDINANCE 2022 264 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF COUNTY, FLORIDA.
A PROVEN AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS THE LANDING SITE, BASE SITE AND POOD PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COGAN AND OSMOSIS DRIVES AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
SO THE DEVELOPER IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
AND AGAIN, MY NAME FOR THE RECORD IS BRUCE MOIR WITH MVP ENGINEERING STEPPING IN FOR MR. BASFORD. SO THIS IS A FINAL READING FOR THIS.
I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THIS. IS THIS NOT A FINAL READING? NO. OKAY.
I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THIS PROJECT BEFORE.
IT'S A IT'S A READ ON KOGAN AND IT'S GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL IT'S KIND OF SURROUNDED BY PWD AND HOUSING. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING ANOTHER I'M REALLY NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT.
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BUT I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS MORE OF A OF A OF A FOLLOW UP READING.AND ALSO I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH I DIDN'T.
I DIDN'T I DIDN'T I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT.
AND THE REASON WAS, IF MY COLLEAGUES REMEMBER WAS THAT IT WAS ZONED PROPERLY, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER AS A SCHOOL AND AND THE SEASONAL OF THE TRAFFIC.
HUGE AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT OF COURSE, ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR THAT.
SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MY COMMENTS.
I KNOW THAT COUNCIL SUPPORTED THIS.
I PREFERRED LEAVING IT THE WAY THAT FUTURE LAND USE WAS IN THE PAST.
BUT THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ANY QUESTIONS? I SAW YOU GESTURE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE THE AREA.
YEAH, IT WILL BE PROBABLY GREATLY IMPACTED CONSIDERING COGAN ONE LANE, ONE LANE, NORTH AND SOUTH.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
AND I WILL SAY IN ADDITION, YOU MENTIONED MAYOR THAT.
IMPROVEMENT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE AREA, SPECIFICALLY OUR OSMOSIS.
I KNOW THERE'S FUTURE PLAN FOR OSMOSIS.
MY QUESTION WILL DIRECT FIRST TO MS..
SHERMAN. HAS IT BEEN DISCUSSION AS FAR AS ANY FAIR SHARE OF AGREEMENT WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER IN THAT REGARD? AS FAR AS OPENING.
I THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH, I'LL ACTUALLY ASK FRANK WATANABE, OUR CITY ENGINEER, TO COME UP.
HE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH A COUPLE OF DEVELOPERS.
GOOD EVENING. FREQUENT NOB OF THE CITY ENGINEER.
AS PART OF MY MY COMMENTS WAS TO DO A STUDY TO DO A SINGLE WORD ANALYSIS.
THE STUDY SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT POTENTIALS WHEN THE SECOND PROJECT YOU'D BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT CONNECTS IN OSMOSIS TO DEGROOT AND THEN FUTURE THAT OSMOSIS WOULD BE A CONNECTION TO THE PARKWAY. SO THAT RAIL WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE EVEN A FOUR LANE ROADWAY.
MAYBE THAT SECTION NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED TO A FOUR LANE TO ACCOMMODATE THE FOUR LANES FOR OSMOSIS.
ALL THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM A STUDY STANDPOINT, AND THAT'S WHERE BOTH DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN TOLD AND SUGGESTED AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS TO DO A STUDY AND A WARRANT ANALYSIS TO SEE IF THEY MEET THOSE CRITERIAS IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN THEY PAY THEIR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF TRIPS.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WERE YOU COMPLETED? IN OTHER WORD, MR. WATANABE, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AFTER MORE STUDIES DONE.
YES, BUT I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO CONDITION IT.
NOT THAT THE STUDIES ARE DONE AND THAT THEY HAVE.
THAT'S JUST BEEN FAIR TO THEM.
BUT I TAKE. THANK JOHN HARRIS.
PARKWAY FROM 192 MALABAR ROAD.
I'M REMINDED EVERY DAY WHY WE DIDN'T DO A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY.
OH, YES. AND NOW NOW IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T EVEN GO TO SPEED LIMIT.
AND COGAN HAS NOW JUMPED TO SINCE WE OPENED THE PARKWAY.
I TAKE THAT GOING HOME TO SEBASTIAN COCONUT HAS HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, I SCRATCH MY HEAD.
WHY? AND HELL IF WE DIDN'T DO A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY FROM 192 TO MALABAR.
AND NOTICE A LITTLE BIT OFF THE SUBJECT.
BUT IT IS THE SUBJECT BECAUSE OSMOSIS, LIKE YOU SAID, MIGHT BE A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY.
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AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY IS GOING TO BE IN THE BUSINESS TO PAY FOR A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY WHEN THE DEVELOPER ALREADY PAID FOR THE IMPACT FEE.WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME MASTER PLANNINGS.
I'VE GOT A CONSULTANT SCOPE READY TO GO OUT TO HIT THOSE AREAS AND START LOOKING AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO FROM A MODELING STANDPOINT, FROM THE FUTURE STANDPOINT, SO WE DON'T MISS THE BOAT AGAIN. THIS IS WHY DIDN'T WE PUT A FOUR LANE ROAD IN? EXACTLY. FRANK AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS IF IT'S IF WE DO SMART GROWTH.
MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A WASHINGTON, D.C., TRAFFIC JAM BECAUSE.
OKAY. AND I DON'T WANT PALM BAY TO BE LIKE THAT.
OKAY, SO WE NEED TO DO A STUDY.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT JUST CAPACITY TOO, AND WE START TALKING ABOUT FOUR LANE SMART ROADS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SMART GROWTH, WALKABILITY, SIDEWALKS, TRANSIT USES.
I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH SCOTT TO PROVIDE MORE SERVICES HERE AND MORE ROUTES.
AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE GOT IN FRONT OF US.
AND TODAY IT'S JUST THIS JUST THESE TWO PROJECTS, WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF THE STUDY TO DO WITH WARRANT ANALYSIS AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO FOR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE. BUT IN THE LONG SCHEME, THE BIGGER PICTURE IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THESE LARGER MASTERPLANS.
THANK YOU. OKAY. Q I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HERITAGE PARKWAY AND THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY.
HOWEVER, I'D BE REMISS IF I DON'T SHARE THE INFORMATION I KNOW FOR FOR FOR A LONG TIME IN THE NINETIES THAT WAS REFERRED TO AS A PALM BAY PARKWAY AND AND THERE WAS NO THERE WAS NO COLLABORATION WHEN IT CAME TO THAT.
A LOT OF FOLKS WEREN'T EVEN BUYING INTO IT AT THAT POINT.
IT WAS WHATEVER THE MPO IS NOW, THE TPO.
BUT THE PRICE TAG THAT CAME ALONG WITH IT DISCOURAGED EVERY EVERY LEADER DURING THAT PHASE.
SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO GET SOMETHING DONE AT THAT POINT.
AND AS YOU KNOW, IT TOOK DECADES TO GET TO THAT POINT, JUST THE TWO LANE.
SO THEY FIGURED AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME IT WAS BETTER TO GET AN ESCAPE ROUTE FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION, IN PARTICULAR DURING HURRICANES.
AND THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THE DISCUSSION AND ELEVATED THAT DISCUSSION.
AND THAT CREATED THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
WHY NOT BUILD IT AT FOUR LANES? I JUST FELT THAT ONE IS NECESSARY.
I APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR, THAT YOU SHARED THAT HISTORY WITH ME.
I THINK THE ONLY ONE COULD GET OUT OF THE PARKER RIGHT NOW IS THE COWS.
THEY COULD GET OUT VERY SAFELY, BUT HUMANS WON'T BE ABLE TO ESCAPE.
AND I'M NOT MAKING LIGHT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHAT.
AND IT'S A GOOD DEVELOPMENT THE WAY I SEE IT.
BUT THE TRAFFIC IS MY CONCERN.
THIS WALKABILITY, THE SAFETY, THE LIGHTING.
I'M ALWAYS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.
I THINK THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
THAT'S WHY I VOTED AGAINST THIS TO BEGIN WITH IN THE VERY BEGINNING.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU.
IT WAS NOT YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO ALREADY CONGESTED SITUATION.
RIGHT. HOWEVER, AND THAT WAS SEASONAL TRAFFIC.
NOW DURING SCHOOL HOURS, YOU CAN NAVIGATE THAT.
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BUT TO HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THERE IN THAT SECTION NOW.SO YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU.
WE DO SHOULD MAKE THESE CONDITIONS AS PART OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE SAFETY AND IMPROVE IN THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR BECAUSE THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING THAT A WHOLE THOROUGHFARE.
RIGHT? SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH WITH YOU ON THAT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE THAT GROWTH.
SO, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I KNOW YOUR NECK.
I KNOW I WAS JUST GOING TO TOSS IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU, SIR.
I DO WANT TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION.
AS FAR AS THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PREVIOUSLY, WHEN THE CITY HAS GRANTED CHANGES TO PARCELS THAT ARE IN THE BAYSIDE LAYOUTS THAT WE HAVE ADDED IN THAT PRIOR WAS THE ACTUAL ODYSSEY CHARTER SCHOOL.
ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS THE AMENDMENT OF THE DECLARATION OF COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS OF BAYSIDE COMMERCIAL CENTER TO REFLECT, IN THIS CASE, THE RESIDENTIAL USE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTATION WHERE IT IS CONSISTENT BECAUSE OF COURSE IN THERE CURRENTLY NOW IN THE COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS IS GOING TO STILL SHOW THAT THIS IS AN INSTITUTIONAL USE.
SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT THAT WHEN THINGS COUNCIL MAKES CHANGES, THAT THEY ARE ALSO MAKING THOSE CHANGES ALSO IN COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO IN THIS CASE AS WELL TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION SO THAT THOSE DECLARATIONS IN COVENANTS ARE UPDATED AND CERTAINLY A REQUEST THAT THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE PWD HAS REQUESTED AND I THINK IS REASONABLE AND IS CONSISTENT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
AH. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT SEEMS THE APPLICANT HAS NO OBJECTION TO THAT ADDITIONAL CONDITION.
ANY SPEAK OF CARDS? KELSO, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I THINK COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO HAS.
YES, SIR. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN FOR A SECOND.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE ON THAT, PLEASE? YES, SIR. SO THAT'S GOING TO COME UP UNDER THE ACTUALLY THE NEXT ITEM.
THE UTILITIES PLANT DOES DEAD END.
SO THE CONCEPT IS TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT TO EXTEND OSMOSIS OVER THE MELBOURNE TILGHMAN CANAL THAT'S CURRENTLY AT THE DEAD END AND CONNECT IT OVER TO DEGROOTE TO LINE UP WITH THE OTHER PORTION OF OSMOSIS.
AN OBJECTIVE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WITH THAT CONNECTION HAPPENING, DO YOU FEEL THAT OUR POLICE WILL BE.
QUICKER TO RESPOND TO THIS AREA AND FIRE WILL BE QUICKER TO RESPOND WITH THIS AREA.
OR DO YOU FEEL IT BE THE OPPOSITE? UM, WELL, JUST SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF, I BELIEVE THAT FOR FIRE WILL ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT FASTER BECAUSE WE HAVE A STATION THAT WE CO-LOCATE WITH, BREVARD COUNTY, THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY OF BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL STATION SIX.
AND OPENING OSMOSIS MEANS THEY CAN MORE QUICKLY GET INTO THE KOGAN AREA.
SO THAT WILL BE DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THAT OSMOSIS CONNECTION.
SHERMAN, THAT THIS WILL INCREASE THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECT AND FIRE GETTING DOWN THERE QUICKER.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
THANK YOU. SO, MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS DOESN'T CONNECT OSMOSIS OR OSMOSIS IS ALREADY THERE WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT ITEM.
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YES, SIR. THAT'S GOING TO DO THE CONNECTING.I HAD TO THROW THE WHOLE MASTER PLAN IN THERE, SIR, SO.
COPY THAT, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
SO. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR. OKAY. SO NO SPEAKER CARDS.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE WARRANT IS 2022 DASH 64/1 READING TO INCLUDE ALL OF STAFF'S COMMENTS, INCLUDING THE AMENDMENT OF THE DECLARATION COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS TO REFLECT THE RESIDENTIAL USE.
FIRST READING, I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE VERY THOROUGH INPUT ON THIS ITEM.
DEPUTY MAYOR. YOUR MOTION INCLUDES THE COMMENTS THAT.
BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND STUFF.
I ANY OPPOSE ONE NAY MEDINA NAY.
ITEM 16 ORDINANCE 2022 TO 65 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BEAVER COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF AUDIT'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORTIZ'S AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR SEEING US TODAY.
I AM WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND I AM THE ENGINEER RECORD ON THIS PROJECT.
I AM REPRESENTING PULTE HOMES AND THIS ACTUAL PRESENTATION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED BY OUR LAND USE ATTORNEY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY SHE WAS IN A SHE WAS REAR ENDED ON HER WAY HERE.
SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO MY BEST TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO YOU GUYS TODAY.
I FEEL LIKE THINGS HAVE BEEN KIND OF WARMED UP FOR US TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO YOU WITH THE DISCUSSIONS WITH REGARDS TO OSMOSIS DRIVE AND I GUESS STEER ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THE FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE TO THE LAND USE.
I BELIEVE THE EXISTING LAND USE IS RURAL AND WE ARE ASKING FOR A SINGLE FAMILY CHANGE AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE ARE PROPOSING THE DEVELOPMENT OF OF 43 AND ONE HALF UNDEVELOPED ACRES FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION FOR THE PULTE HOMES CLIENT.
SHOULD I EXPAND ON THE PROPOSALS OR SHOULD I WAIT TILL THE NEXT ITEM? YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR, BUT WE'RE RIGHT NOW BEFORE US.
WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING ANY ANY ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT FOR THAT AT THIS POINT.
RIGHT. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.
YOU HAVE A PROPERTY, A SQUARE PIECE OF.
YES, SIR. ALSO THERE WAS WHAT.
WHAT USE OF THAT PARCEL AND HOW IT'S GOING TO PLAY INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS.
SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE RIGHT NOW THE THAT EAST, EASTERN SIDE OR EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE GROUP IS THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL IN ORDER TO KIND OF KEEP THE THE CONTINUITY OF THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION.
NOW, OUR CLIENT IS WILLING TO MAKE THAT PARCEL COMMERCIAL AS WELL AND BASICALLY HAVE IT AS A PAD READY PARCEL FOR A COMMERCIAL USE IN THE FUTURE.
THEY WILL NOT BE DEVELOPING THAT SITE BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS.
NOT SO. THAT SITE IS JUST BE UP FOR SALE.
AND THEN THE REMAINING PARCEL IS THE.
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THE RURAL LAND USE.WE HAVEN'T GOT TO A TRAFFIC STUDY YET, BUT.
GATEWAY OSMOSIS, THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE.
OH, THAT'S GOING TO ALL FIT IN.
CORRECT. I KIND OF LIKE THE WAY IT'S ZONED RIGHT NOW.
I LIKE THE RURAL SINGLE FAMILY.
BUT. SO THERE'S THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR OUR CITY IS LOSING AT A FAST RATE.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS TO THAT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OTHER THAN I KNOW THIS PROJECT EVIDENTLY IS BENEFICIAL OR GOING TO CREATE THAT CONNECTION ROAD OF OSMOSIS DRIVE TO THE GROOT.
BUT I THINK YOU COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH RURAL SINGLE FAMILY.
MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HOW MUCH OF AN INVESTMENT AND HOW MUCH OF A PROFIT, RIGHT, DO THE NUMBERS MATCH? AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CERTAINLY I CRINGE WHEN OUR CITY LOSES THAT RURAL LOOK. AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS WERE SPECIAL TO ME AT ONE POINT.
IT IT SEEMS TO BE IT'S IT'S GOING AWAY.
SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCIL.
ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. THE COUNCILMAN.
SO YOU SPOKE ABOUT WHAT'S THE PARCEL ON ON YOUR.
HOW BIG IS THAT PARCEL MEASUREMENT WISE? ONE ACRE? YEAH.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DONATE IT TO THE CITY FOR PERHAPS A POLICE STATION OR A FIRE STATION? WE HAVE A PROPERTY FURTHER SOUTH, JUST.
JUST SOUTH OF THAT, JUST FOR THAT.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DONATE TO THE CITY EITHER WAY? YEAH. HELP US BUILD THAT.
WE MAY NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE ARE HAVING AN EXACT ACTION WHERE WE'RE ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO CONTRIBUTE A MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE.
BECAUSE EVEN IF IT IS AN ACTION, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY CAN AGREE NOW BECAUSE WHAT THE COURTS LOOK AT IT IS YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER TO APPROVE OR DENY THEIR REQUESTS SO THAT EVEN IF THEY CAN SEE AGREE TO IT, THEY CAN CHALLENGE IT AFTERWARDS BECAUSE IT'S.
NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE.
SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT CERTAINLY THERE ARE WE LOOK AT PER OUR ORDINANCES, WHAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO AS FAR AS THEIR IMPACTS, WHETHER AND WE HAVE AGREEMENTS TYPICALLY WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS, WHERE THERE IS POLICE OR WHATEVER, SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A PAYMENT, THEY CAN DO LAND.
AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING BEYOND THE ESTABLISHED FORM, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE NOT GIVING CREDITS, WE ARE EMBARKING UPON SOMETHING THAT IS LIKELY TO BE CHALLENGED AND CAN BE PROBLEMATIC FOR US.
BUT AS FAR AS WE REALLY SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS AND LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR IMPACT IS AS FAR AS POLICE SERVICES AND HOW THAT MAY BE ADDRESSED, WHETHER IT IS IN THE FORM OF PAYING THE IMPACT FEE OR DONATION OF LAND, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER DEALT WITH IN THE NORMAL COURSE AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE FEES DUE OR ANY TYPE A TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO NOW WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY SEEKING APPROVAL AND MAY FEEL COMPELLED TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE EVEN IF THERE ISN'T ANY STUDY THAT JUSTIFIES THIS.
SO I WOULD CAUTION COUNSEL NOT TO GO FORTH WITH THIS AT THIS TIME.
CURIOUS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? I, I AM I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO COMMENT ON THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.
THANK YOU. I THINK THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT WANTED TO.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
THANK YOU. YOU SPEAK ACCORDING? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.
NICOLE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKED FOR A MOTION MOTION TO PROVE CASE CP DASH 21.
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DASH 2022.WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
SO, FEMA, YOU WANTED TO START.
COUNCILMAN WANTED TO MAKE ANY COMMENT.
I BROUGHT THAT UP THE YEAR I MEAN, MONTHS AGO IN REGARDS OF AS MOSES.
I WELCOME THIS PROJECT ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THIS COMPONENT.
SO I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS VOTED FOR THESE GIRLS SINGLE FAMILY, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE BENEFIT THAT THIS WOULD BRING THE CITY IN THAT CONNECTING CORRIDOR.
RIGHT. SO I THINK THE PROJECT IN AND OF ITSELF IN CONNECTING THAT I'M WILLING TO TO VOTE A YAY AND SUPPORT THIS PROJECT SOLELY BECAUSE OF THAT THAT CONNECTIVITY.
I THINK OUR CITY NEEDS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE IN A POSITION THAT THIS IS THIS COULD BE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP IN THAT REGARD.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MR. SMITH. RESOLUTION 2022 DEATH 26 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, WRITING IN APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS DEGROOT, PWD AND GQ.
GENERAL USE HOLDING DISTRICT ZONING WITH A TENTATIVE ZONING OF PWD PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO DEGROOT ROAD, THE VICINITY WEST OF BRANDY CREEK CIRCLE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
CHRIS ALSO WITH KIMLEY-HORN TO CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION.
SO THE WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE GROUP SUBDIVISION PROJECT IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY PHASED INTO A NORTH AND A SOUTH PHASE WITH THE OSMOSIS DRIVE EXTENSION CROSSING TOWARDS THE MIDDLE WITH 57 LOTS TO THE SOUTH AND 62 LOTS TO THE NORTH. IN THE INITIAL STAGES.
IN THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH MR. WANNABE ON THE PROCESS.
WE WERE PROVIDED AN OLDER BROADWAY PLAN, AND AS YOU GUYS HAVE SPOKEN THERE, THE CONNECTION OF OSMOSIS AND THE EXTENSION OF IT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS, IN THE TALKS WITH THE CITY FOR SOME TIME.
IT WAS A PRETTY OLD PIECE OF OF A CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT.
OUR CLIENT WILL BE DONATING 100 FEET RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IT'S APPROXIMATELY PLUS OR -1600 LINEAR FEET, WHICH ENDS UP BEING ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT OSMOSIS EXTENSION FROM THE GROUND ACROSS THE NUMBER 57 CANAL, THE MELBOURNE CANAL, TO THE EXISTING PORTION OF OSMOSIS DRIVE WITH 100 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY. THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO OR THAT ROADWAY WILL BE ABLE TO BE WIDENED TO A FOUR LANE IN THE FUTURE OR AS THE CITY SEES FIT. AS WE MOVE FURTHER IN THIS PROCESS, IF WE MOVE FURTHER WITH THIS PROCESS, WE'LL BE IN IN IN COORDINATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WITH ENGINEERING, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DESIGN AND PROVIDE THE CITY A PRODUCT AND A ROADWAY THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO MY CLIENT'S DEVELOPMENT.
COUNCILMAN FELIX. PRETTY SURE THAT MAY BE A PREMATURE QUESTION, BUT IN REGARDS OF THAT INTERSECTION, THAT'S SEPARATE THE ROADWAY. THE METAL, THE TWO SECTION OF THE OF THE OF THE PROJECT.
ARE WE FORESEEING A NEED FOR MAYBE A FOUR WAY STOP SIGN OR ESSENTIALLY TRAFFIC LIGHT OR WE JUST NOT WE'LL HAVE THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A NEED OF A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE THERE.
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THERE IS A PROPOSED AMENITY AREA ON THE ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.AT THIS STAGE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
THERE IS THERE'S BEEN TALKS ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE ARE OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT IS HERE.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN RELEASED TO DO A COMPLETE TRAFFIC STUDY ON THE PROJECT AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND THE EFFECTS OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT NOW AND LOOKING INTO THE MASTER PLAN IN THE FUTURE.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE I LIKE THE STUDY AND EVERYTHING BUT MY MY HESITANT.
YOUR IMPACT FEE IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT? WELL, AS PART OF ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED, WHERE ALL THOSE DETAILS WILL BE WORKED OUT WITH REGARDS TO FAIR SHARE AGREEMENTS AND THE COSTS OF THE WORK AND WHO'S GOING TO DO THE WORK AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO TRANSPIRE.
AS AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT HASN'T BEEN.
BET IT OUT, RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.
I WAS JUST SPEAKING AHEAD OF MYSELF WHEN I SAID THE IMPACT FEES WAS GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
BUT. WHAT'S THE ROLE IS BUILT IN? IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD.
WE REALLY NEED A FULL LANE FROM THE GROUP.
ALSO ON OSMOSIS ALL THE WAY TO.
I MEAN, KOGI SHOULD BE A FOUR LANE ROAD AND I MIGHT BE WRONG.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY MIGHT NOT WANT.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE TRACKED FOR STUDIES SHOULD TELL US.
BUT GIVEN THE FEATURE LAND USE OF ALL THEM HOUSES GOING UP THERE, ONE MIGHT THINK.
TWO LANE ROAD MIGHT NOT CUT IT.
FROM THE GROUP. TO KOGAN MIGHT NOT BE ADEQUATE.
SORRY. DID YOU SAY LIGHTING? LIGHTING, STREETLIGHTS? WHEN YOU DRIVE ON THE ROAD, YOU HAVE STREET LAMPS, AND I DON'T.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY STREETLIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE PUT UP.
AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT ROAD INTERNALLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE WILL BE STREET LIGHTING ON THE ACTUAL EXTENSION OF US MOST AS DRIVE AS OF THIS MOMENT, I'M NOT AWARE IF PUBLIC WORKS HAS A REQUIREMENT, BUT IF THEY DO, OBVIOUSLY IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A COVERT IT'S GOING TO CROSS OVER CANAL.
THERE'S A LOT OF EXPENSES INVOLVED.
ABSOLUTELY. THE CULVERT IS PROBABLY A MAJOR BULK OF THE EXPENSE.
EXACTLY. AND IF YOU BUILD A CULVERT FOR A TWO LANE, YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND REDO IT.
RIGHT. MORE LIKELY, RIGHT? WELL, WE'LL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS I MEAN, ALTHOUGH THE CITY IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BENEFIT EVEN MORE BECAUSE IT'D BE A NICE ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY AND TO GET IN AND OUT AND TO SELL YOUR HOMES.
BUT THE RESIDENTS IN THE NORTHEAST MIGHT NOT SEE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WHEN I SAID I'M NOT.
TOO KEEN ON PULLING THE TRIGGER, MEANING VOTING FOR THIS.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE MY JOB IS TO PROTECT OUR TAXPAYERS FIRST.
AND WE'RE WE'VE HAD THAT PROCESS UP TO THIS POINT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY INVOLVED IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED AND AND TALK ABOUT IT IF THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENTS.
WELL, I WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND I WANT THE CITY RESIDENTS BE PROTECTED FROM NOT COMING BACK.
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AND I HAVE A BILL BRATTON COMING UP HERE SAYING, I TOLD YOU SO.YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THE DEVELOPER PAY FOR IT.
NOW. I'LL BE LOOKING AT BILL LIKE I'M CRAZY.
AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY VIEWS TOWARDS YOU GUYS.
MY NAME IS JOSH BLOCK WITH LASSETER TRANSPORTATION GROUP.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO WE WORK WITH FRANK WATANABE ALL THE TIME AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE ROADS ARE SIZED APPROPRIATELY AND ANY TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT'S NECESSARY WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE.
OH, BATON. GET MY BILL BACK EARLY.
BILL 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I WOULD CALL IT UP AGAIN.
WE'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING UNDER A CLASS C FOR OUR TRAFFIC.
SO DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK IF YOU'RE EXCEEDING IT OR NOT.
WE'RE. IT'S SUCH A LOW RATING THAT IT WAS PUT IN THAT WAY TO ENTICE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN.
IT WASN'T SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A SAFE CITY.
IT WAS SET UP SO WE COULD ENTICE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
THAT'S WHAT ALLOWS SO MANY OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO COME IN BECAUSE WITH THE CLASS C RATING, IT GIVES THEM A HIGH ELEVATION, HIGH AMOUNT OF NUMBERS, REGARDLESS OF BACKUP OR ANYTHING ELSE. THEY'RE MEETING THE CRITERIA REGARDLESS.
SO IT'S THE CLASS C RATING THAT'S CAUSE OF 90% OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO LOOK AND SAY, CLASS C, WE NEED IT.
WE'RE WELL WITHIN OUR SPECIFICATIONS.
THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES.
THEY AREN'T WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE ROADS.
THEY AREN'T WORRYING ABOUT ANYTHING.
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO MEET THE BARE MINIMUM REQUIRED SO THAT THEY ARE LEGAL.
SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE LOOK FOR.
CLASS C RATING, RIGHT? ITEM NUMBER TWO IS I'M A BIG COMPONENT OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND AND I SEE THIS AND THIS WAS ALSO A RURAL SINGLE FAMILY.
SO THAT'S ONLY ONE HOUSE PER FIVE ACRES.
THAT'S A BIG LOSS. BUT I WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTION OF THE ROAD THEN.
THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T CALL THAT OUT ON IT.
BUT I DO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS WITH THIS.
ONE IS THE COST OF PHASE ONE OSMOSIS TAX ABATEMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND QUESTION NUMBER TWO IS PHASE TWO BUILD OUT OF OSMOSIS, DEVELOPER OR CITY, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG PORTION NOT EVEN IN THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY ARE ALREADY HAVE BUILT THEIR PORTION THAT CONNECTS THEM TO DE GROOT ROAD.
RIGHT. SO WHAT IS THE EXPECTED DATE AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED DATE OF PHASE TWO TO BE BUILT? BECAUSE ALL IT IS IS DRAWINGS ON A PIECE OF PAPER AT THIS TIME.
ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THEY WILL STILL BE ABLE TO DO PHASE ONE AND WE MAY NEVER, EVER SEE PHASE TWO.
MA'AM. OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER? THOSE QUESTIONS. YES.
RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE NO PLANS IN OUR IN OUR SCOPE TO LOOK AT OSMOSIS WEST OF THE EAST OF THE CANAL.
DEDICATING THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM SOUTHWEST OSMOSIS AT THE ROOT TO THE CANAL.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S OTHER DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON ON THAT SIDE OF THE CANAL THAT YOU KNOW.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WITH STAFF THAT THIS WILL STILL.
WHAT HE'S SAYING HERE IS STILL OK WITH THE MASTER PLAN OF POSSIBLY GETTING A BRIDGE OVER THAT CANAL.
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK FRANK TO COME UP.
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GOOD EVENING. NOW BE THE CITY ENGINEER.THAT WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE FROM DEGROOT ONTO THE PROJECT ENTRANCE.
THE STUDY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING NEEDS TO LOOK AT THAT CONNECTIVITY AS BUILD OUT, AS THAT BUILDER SHOWS THAT THAT ROADWAY IS NEEDED, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ROADWAY AS PART OF THE PROJECT. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT, BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, WE WERE SHORT ON EAST WEST CONNECT COLLECTORS AND THAT IS OUR LAST EAST-WEST CONNECTOR.
WE HAVE IT USED TO CONNECT THAT PORTION OF THE ROADWAY TO THE PARKWAY EVENTUALLY IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE STUDY SHOULD ADDRESS THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO BUILD OUT AND THE PHASE TWO BUILD OUT AS REQUIRED AS SIMULTANEOUSLY, IF REQUIRED AS PART OF THE PROJECT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL TRIPS.
THE TRIPS BY ITSELF WON'T GENERATE IF IT'S A DEAD END STREET.
ONCE YOU OPEN THAT DOORWAY, IT'LL GENERATE MORE TRIPS ON A MASSIVE CITYWIDE BASIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE MODEL NEEDS TO LOOK AT.
AND THE STUDY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE ROADWAY SYSTEM AS AN AS AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR, AS WELL AS CONNECTION POINTS LIKE DEGROOT, IF A SIGNAL IS NEEDED AND WHAT TYPE OF SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS WELL.
SO THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION CONDITIONS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, FRANK. THANK YOU.
HOLD ON. MR. WATANABE, COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER HAS A QUESTION.
NO, THAT'S. I JUST WENT THROUGH, TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IN THE ROAD.
NOW THEY'RE SAYING THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN FOR IT.
THE PLAN WE HAD ACTUALLY WAS A CITY PLAN WE DID IN HOUSE.
WE HAD A TWO LANE ROADWAY PLAN FOR THAT ROAD CONNECTION BECAUSE THAT ROAD WAS CONNECTED.
FUTURE CONNECTION IS TO DEGROOT AND CONTINUES ON.
THAT'S WHERE THE NAME OSMOSIS CONTINUES ON.
BUT THE CURRENT PLAN WAS A TWO LANE.
EXACTLY. BUT THE DEVELOPERS DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN TO TO DO THE PROJECT WE'RE TALKING.
YES. I THINK THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO JUST DO PROBABLY WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THEM AS WELL AS FOR US.
IT PROVIDES ANOTHER CONNECTIVITY, AN ACCESS POINT.
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS CORRECT ME, MAYBE I'M CONFUSED.
HELP ME OUT HERE. DEVELOPER HAS A PLAN TO GET THEIR PROJECT DONE, BUT NOT TO GET THIS CONNECTION.
THEY HAVE IS A TWO PHASE PROJECT.
YES, IT'S A TWO PAGE TWO PAGE TWO PHASE.
AND THEY ONLY WANT TO DO THE FIRST PHASE.
RIGHT. AND THEN COME BACK AND DO THE SECOND PAGE? WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE JUST SAYING, THAT THEY WILL ONLY DO THE FIRST PHASE.
RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT THEIR PROJECT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT STUDY LOOKS AT BOTH.
I DON'T FEEL I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD ME AT THE BEGINNING AND THEY'RE LOSING ME BY THE SECOND.
BUT I THINK THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE WHAT THE STUDY SHOWS.
I BELIEVE THE STUDY IS GOING TO SHOW THE NEED FOR CONNECTION.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN THE CONDITION THAT IF THE STUDY SHOWS THE NEED FOR THE ROADWAY AS ONE AND TWO AS AN ENTIRE CONNECTION PIECE THAT CONNECTS OSMOSIS FROM COGAN TO DEGROOT, THE PROJECT THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT THEN, THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM WITH THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS, PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARES, AND PROBABLY WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS BECAUSE THAT'S SOME REGIONAL ROADWAY TRAFFIC AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE IN THAT ROAD IMPROVEMENT.
THEY HAVE TO DO. THE STUDY HAS BEEN DONE YET, BUT THERE'S I BELIEVE THE STATE IS GOING TO SHOW THE NEED FOR THAT REGIONAL CONNECTION, CONNECTIVITY FOR THAT AREA BECAUSE MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE OTHER STREETS ARE ALREADY FULLY SATURATED WITH TRAFFIC.
THE MORE I FIND OUT, THE MORE I LOOK AT THIS, THE MORE I DON'T LIKE IT.
THANK YOU, FRANK. MR. MAYOR. SO SORRY.
GO AHEAD. SO YOU'RE GONNA DO A TRAFFIC STUDY ON PHASES ONE AND TWO FOR PHASES ONE AND TWO.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. YES, SIR.
RIGHT. SO IF THEY IF THE DEVELOPER DECIDES ONLY BUILD PHASE ONE AND THEN THEY SAY THE STUDY SHOWS PHASE TWO DEMANDS THAT CONNECTOR, THEY CAN JUST BAIL OUT AND SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PHASE TWO THEN AND NOT TO THE CONNECTOR.
WOULD I BE CORRECT IN SAYING THAT? THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE CONDITION IS TO STATE THAT IF A STUDY IDENTIFIES A NEED FOR THAT CONNECTION, THAT THE PROJECT HAS TO HAVE BOTH PHASES COMPLETED.
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SO SO WHAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT STUDY YOU'RE BELIEVING IS GOING TO SHOW BASED ON THE QUARTER, THE SURROUNDING CORRIDORS THAT ARE SATURATED, IT'S GOING TO INDICATE THAT THAT COURT HAS GOT TO BE THEY HAVE TO FINISH BOTH PHASES OR THAT AREAS THAT WE HAVE GROWING AREAS, SOME NEW SUBDIVISIONS.WE HAVE THE UNITS 3132, WE PAVED THOSE STREETS AND THEY'RE ALL GROWING LIKE HOMES ON EVERY UNIT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PAVING UNIT 30.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN THAT THAT AREA IS GOING TO JUST HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
AND THERE'S NOW THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY EAST WEST AS BEST BAYSIDE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THE COUNCIL, I THINK.
ARE OUR ENGINEERS INDICATING THAT ALL INDICATION IS THAT THAT THE STUDIES ARE GOING TO SHOW THAT THAT IS WARRANTED, THAT THAT'S NEEDED AND SUPPORT WHAT WHAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR CONCERNS ARE.
RIGHT. WE'RE ALL PART OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTIVITY WE'VE MADE THAT OUR PUBLIC RECORD.
SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. DID YOU WANT TO? WELL, YEAH. YOU KNOW, I REMINDED OF MY PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT REAGAN SAID TRUST BUT VERIFY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IN MY HEAD.
I WANT IT. I WANT THAT CONNECTION DONE.
THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BENEFIT GREATLY.
YOU'RE GOING TO BENEFIT GREATLY WHEN THAT CONNECTION IS MADE, WHETHER IT'S A TWO LANE, FOUR LANE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT. OKAY.
BECAUSE BOTH DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BENEFIT WHEN WE MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
BUT IT'S GOING TO COST SOME MONEY.
A LOT OF MONEY, ESPECIALLY IF THE TWO LANE AND LATER, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, WE NEED A FOUR LANE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT. I JUST I JUST THINK I WANT THAT CONNECTIONS DONE.
AND I DON'T SEE I COULD SEE I COULD SEE THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR MIND.
AFTER THEY GOT THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND WALK AWAY FROM THAT CONNECTION.
THAT'S WHY BY THE SECOND THEY'RE LOSING ME ON MY VOTE WAS HAVING MY VOTE.
BUT THEY'RE LOSING IT BY THE SECOND.
I WANT I WANT TO SEE THAT CONNECTION.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO.
I WANT TO GET IT DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
I WANT TO. DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
TRAFFIC STUDY COULD SAY IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD.
I COULD LIVE WITH THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE A FOUR LANE.
IF THE STUDY SHOWS TWO LANE OK.
DO THE ROADS, DO THE CONNECTION? BUT WHAT ARE? WHAT GUARANTEE? HOW CAN WE HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE? BY LETTING THEM DO THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT OF THE GROUP DEVELOPMENT AND NOT EVEN THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN TO PUT THE ROAD TOGETHER.
THAT'S WHAT THE MAN JUST SAID.
THEY HAVE THE ALIGNMENT SET ALREADY.
PRETTY MUCH IS THE ALIGNMENT THAT CITY DESIGN BEFORE I WAS HERE.
SO THERE IS AN ALIGNMENT PLAN.
THERE IS A PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE PART OF THIS ONE BIG PHASE.
THANK YOU, FRANK. BUT SIR, PLEASE.
SEAN BAILEY, PULTE HOMES, 44901 BOUND IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
I THINK A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION IS GREAT.
WE'RE THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S WARRANT AND WHAT'S NOT.
WE'RE HERE. WE'RE STEPPING UP.
WE'RE DEDICATING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THEM ALREADY.
SO WE'RE WILLING TO OBVIOUSLY DEDICATED.
WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH FINAL ENGINEERING.
WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN.
SO I'M TELLING YOU, WE'RE HERE TO STAY.
WE'RE HERE TO DO THE DO IT RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BAIL OUT ON ANYTHING.
SO IF THAT'S YOUR CONCERN, I CAN TELL YOU FROM OUR STANDPOINT, THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTION.
OUR INTENTION IS TO MAKE IT RIGHT, MAKE THIS CONNECTION.
AND WHATEVER THE STUDIES SAY, WE WILL DO WHAT'S REQUIRED OF US.
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WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.IN FACT, WE CREDITS I DON'T KNOW, ONCE WE GET INTO THAT, WE CAN DECIDE THOSE DETAILS.
BUT IT'S HARD TO SAY AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE AT STEP ONE OF A 15 STEP PROCESS FOR US.
SO BUT WE'RE WE'RE WILLING TO STEP UP.
WE BELIEVE WE ARE STEPPING UP.
WE'RE PROVIDING THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST PART OF THE CONNECTION.
WITHOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
SO WE'RE WILLING TO STEP UP AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BAIL ON ON ANYTHING.
THAT'S ALL I WANT TO ADD. THANK YOU.
BUT COUNCILMAN FELIX MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STEPPING UP.
AND I THINK YOU MADE IT SIMPLE TO MAKE IT CLEAR AND AND WELL SAID.
I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT VOTING FOR THIS AT THIS STAGE.
WE'RE NOT HELPING AT ALL, IN A SENSE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST STEP BACK BECAUSE THE CLOSER WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD, WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF HAVING AN OPEN CORRIDOR.
AT THE END, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE ALL WANT.
YOU KNOW, KILL THIS NOW DOES NOT HELP US AT ALL.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ADD, MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD.
THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT IF I KNOW FRANKIE, YOU LEFT A LITTLE SOON.
BUT ON THAT CLASSIFICATION OF OUR ROADS AND HOW HOW SOON CAN WE CHANGE THAT? ACTUALLY, OSMOSIS IS SPLIT AT DE GROOT, WHERE OSMOSIS IS CLASSIFIED IN TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
AND THEN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS NOT.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE OVERALL AS WE DO THE COMPONENT AMENDMENTS.
AND WE ALSO LOOK AT CHANGING CORRIDORS.
WE ONLY HAVE A FEW ARTERIALS AND OSMOSIS IS TRULY IN THE FUTURE.
IT WOULD BE AN ARTERIAL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKWAY CONNECTION.
YOU HAVE A FOUR LANE SECTION THAT WE MAY HAVE TO COGEN AND ARTERIAL ROADWAY.
AND TO THAT TO THAT END, WAITING ON THE COMP PLAN.
WE'RE IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD ACCELERATE THAT PROCESS? WE ARE WITH THESE STUDIES WE'RE DOING WE'RE KICKING OFF TO WE'RE KICKING OFF BEFORE WE GET THE COMP.
SO WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY DOING IT.
WE'RE ALREADY BREAKING OUT DOING STUDIES.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL, WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE IT QUICK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL, ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO SPEAKER CARDS.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION.
SORRY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED ADDED TO THE RESOLUTION AS PART OF YOUR MOTION.
THAT'S A MOTION APPROVED CASE THAT'S 21 TO 2022 TO INCLUDE STAFF'S COMMENTS AND THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ALSO, INCLUDING A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, SHALL BE PREPARED TO ANALYZE THE EXISTING AND BUILD OUT CAPACITY OF THE PROJECT RELATED STREETS AND INTERSECTIONS.
CHAPTER 183.36 DETERMINATION OF PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE OBLIGATION.
IT GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? I JUST GO AHEAD.
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SO. THANK YOU, SIR.AND THANK YOU, MR. SUZANNE AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
I'D LIKE ALSO ADDED QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, STREET LIGHTS, STREET LIGHTS.
I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD CONSIDER WORKING WITH STAFF AND ALSO SIDEWALKS AS WELL.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PLAN.
HOPEFULLY BOTH SIDES OK AND STREETLIGHT, IF WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT.
HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEER AS WELL, THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
SO? SO IDENTIFICATION OF LIGHTING WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LISTED.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPP O COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO WANTED.
YEAH. I JUST WANT TO ECHO A DEPUTY MAYOR HERE.
I WANT TO THANK STAFF AS WELL.
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, WHEN YOU MENTIONED JESSE, YOU CAN REFER TO HIM AS DR.
I LIKE THAT. YES, YES, YES, HE IS.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU WANTED TO COMMENT? YEAH. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THE EDGE OF NOT SUPPORTING IT.
BUT BASED ON THE MOTION AND THE STUDIES, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
WORK IT OUT. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT.
THIS TO COME BACK WITH EGG ON ALL OUR FACES, THAT THIS CONNECTION IS NOT DONE.
AND I'M GOING TO BE VERY UPSET.
I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL RIGHT. AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM 18, I'M TAKING A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
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I WANT TO KNOW THE TRENDS AND HOW THINGS ARE IMPACTED BY.[03:12:13]
I HAVE.TO. I SEE THAT MR. PREVIOUS LANDLORD ACTUALLY OWNED MY TENANTS FOR NOT ONLY MY LIFESTYLE.
I NEVER HEARD THAT. SO THESE ARE.
SO LAST WEEK I WAS IN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL.
SO. GOT THE WALL? YES. I GO OUT OF TOWN LIKE A LOT OF CHILDREN.
THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT POINTS TO.
TODAY, ACCESS TO OUR PRODUCTS AND HEALTHCARE PRODUCTS IMPACTED POSITIVELY WHEN THEY SAW THE QUALITY OF THE WARRANTY.
OK. OUR 5 MINUTES IS HAS BEEN EXCEEDED WHEN I ASK COUNCIL TO COME JOIN ME ON THE DAIS.
APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
AS WE CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK MISS SMITH.
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TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL EIGHT, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR FILING A COPY OF THE AUDITS WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF BREVARD COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THANK YOU, JAKE. WISE BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST OF GHALIB BOULEVARD IN MELBOURNE.
WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR AN ANNEXATION, BUT IT'S THE FIRST SMALL STEP, ALTHOUGH A VERY BIG STEP FOR A MULTI TIERED PROJECT.
LAST NIGHT AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, WE HAD A VERY LONG, GREAT, I THOUGHT, HEALTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PDP REZONING AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND ULTIMATELY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WAS VERY HAPPY WITH IT.
WE EVEN GOT THE SUPPORT OF ONE MR. BILL BATTEN, WHICH IS NOT NORMAL FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
SO WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO GET A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL ON BOTH AGENDA ITEMS AND MR. BATTEN SUPPORT AS WELL.
SO THE REASON I'VE GOT A SHORT PRESENTATION IS BECAUSE IT IS THERE'S A LOT TO THE PROJECT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF AND SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS FOR OVER A YEAR.
WE'RE THE PROPERTY IS IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
IT'S ADJACENT TO COUNTY LAND TO THE EAST, WHICH IS A SUBDIVISION CALLED MALABAR LAKES WEST, BUT IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO CITY PROPERTY, TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN A PORTION OF IT TO THE EAST AS WELL.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW THIS COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR IS A DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PROJECTS AS WELL, WHICH WE THINK THIS PROJECT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ALL OF THAT.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE REDESIGNS ON IT SO THAT WE COULD BE NOT ONLY A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BE WHAT WE THINK IS COMPATIBLE, BUT ALSO IN HOW MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT COME TO ALSO BEING IN CONCERT WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR AT THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM YOU GUYS.
AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION, WE'LL KIND OF HIT THE MARK ON A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WOULD HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT. AND AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, IT'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC.
WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE'VE MET WITH STAFF, AS I MENTIONED MANY TIMES, PUBLIC WORKS, ESPECIALLY WE'RE AT THE SCHOOL.
OOPS. LET ME FIND THIS REAL QUICK.
THIS IS THE PARKWAY, WHICH WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
SO THE NAME OF THE PROJECT IS THREE FORKS.
IT'S AN L-SHAPED PARCEL THAT IS EXCLUSIVE OF THE CORNER OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
SO IT'S THIS L-SHAPE HERE, MALABAR ROAD AGAIN TO OUR NORTH, AND THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY THAT'S ANTICIPATED WOULD BE TO OUR WEST. AND WE HAVE MELBOURNE TWO CANALS BOTH TO OUR EAST AND WEST.
AND THIS SITE SLIDE IS SIMPLY TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE A FIRE STATION AND POLICE STATION WITHIN FOUR MILES AND ANOTHER FIRE STATION NEARBY. AND THERE IS SOME CITY PROPERTY JUST WEST OF US THAT COULD UTILIZE ANOTHER ONE IN THAT AREA.
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SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE.AND I MENTIONED BEFORE OUR NEIGHBOR, STELLAR TO THE NORTH.
IMMEDIATELY TO OUR EAST, ADJACENT TO THE POTOMAC CANAL IS A PROPERTY THAT IS 40 ACRES.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ADJACENT TO THAT ARE FOUR COMMERCIAL LOTS AND A COMMERCIAL RV PARK.
SO WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL.
WE WANT IT TO, AGAIN, BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, NOT COMPETE, BUT ALSO PROVIDE THAT COMMERCIAL THAT WE KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR. WE WENT WITH A HIGHER END RV PARK BECAUSE WE KNOW JUST NORTH OF HERE AT FRED, POPPY PARK IS A IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A FUTURE CITY CAMPGROUND. SO WHEN WE MET WITH STAFF, WE TALKED ABOUT NOT COMPETING AND ACTUALLY PROBABLY COMPLEMENTING THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY FOR THE PARK SO THAT IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING FOR CAMPING AND THEY ACQUIRE ABOUT THE RV PARK, WE'LL SAY WE DON'T DO THAT.
BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET YOU'VE GOT PALM BAY, A HUGE, BEAUTIFUL PARK.
THAT'S PART OF IT. AND THEN MALABAR LAKES WEST IS IMMEDIATELY TO OUR EAST RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR PROJECTS TO MALWARE LAKES WEST IS IN THE COUNTY.
SO IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF LOTS THAT BACK UP TO US.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE 120 FOOT WIDE MELBOURNE, TILGHMAN CANAL, RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S A NICE BUFFER, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE STILL HAD.
SORRY. HE STILL HAD SINGLE FAMILY PROPOSED FOR US IN THE BACK NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY.
I MENTIONED EARLIER DIVERSITY IN HOUSING.
SO WE'VE GOT THE HIGH END RV PARK.
IT HAS AMENITIES, THE RV PARK HAS AMENITIES.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS ONE OF THE MOST UNUSUAL DESIGNS FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WE ALREADY HAVE AN END USER THAT WE'RE DOING MULTIPLE OTHER APARTMENT PROJECTS WITH IN BOVARD COUNTY, AND WE ORIENTED IT LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE THINK TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST, EXCEPT FOR THE MELVIN TILLMAN CANAL WILL BE THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY TO THE SOUTH.
THAT RIGHT OF WAY HAS NOT BEEN ACQUIRED YET, BUT THE CITY HAS BEEN PRETTY FAR ALONG IN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT DOES HAVE THAT RIGHT OF WAY AND SWAPPING SOME LAND SO THAT THAT RIGHT OF WAY CAN BE ACQUIRED, INCLUDING STORMWATER TREATMENT FOR THAT ROAD, WHICH OF COURSE IS CRITICAL TO ANYTHING THAT WE DO THAT ADDS IMPERVIOUS AREAS.
AND JUST SO THIS BOARD'S AWARE, THE COUNCIL IS AWARE AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS MANY TIMES WHEN WE HAVE PROJECTS ADJACENT TO MELBOURNE, TILMON CANALS, THEY HOLD US TO A MUCH, MUCH MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENT.
SO YOU SEE A LOT OF BLUE UP THERE.
NOW THE MULTIFAMILY AS FAR AS VEHICULAR ACCESS WOULD ONLY BE TO THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY.
AND IF THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD EXTEND THE PARKWAY DOWN HERE, WHICH WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE CASITAS TAKING A LOT OF THEIR TRIPS OFF OF MALABAR ROAD, A BENEFIT TO THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE IT WOULD PUT THE TRIPS ONTO THE PARK, ONTO THE PARKWAY AND POTENTIALLY TAKING SOME TRIPS OFF OF MALABAR ROAD. AND IT WOULD NOT ONLY EXTEND THE ROAD ITSELF AND DESIGN THE ROAD, IT WOULD ALSO EXTEND AT LEAST WATER BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT.
DO WE WANT TO LOOP THE WHOLE WATER SYSTEM OUT HERE TO HAVE A BETTER SYSTEM FOR THIS WHOLE AREA? WE JUST DID A VERY LARGE REGIONAL LIFT STATION AT AVERY SPRINGS, JUST EAST OF HERE FOR THE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS.
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AND WE'RE JUST, AGAIN, AT THE VERY INITIAL STEPS, A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT WAS WALKABLE COMMUNITIES.WE DESIGNED. THIS WOULD BE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
AN EXISTING 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS THE STANDARD RIGHT OF WAY IS 50 FEET.
SO IT'S A NON STANDARD RIGHT OF WAY HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THIS LITTLE GREEN SPACE HERE, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, SO THEY CAN GO FROM THE APARTMENTS, WALK, BIKE, WHATEVER, UP THROUGH HERE AND GET TO THE COMMERCIAL PARCELS HERE.
IT'S A LOCAL BREVARD COUNTY RESTAURANT THAT HAS MULTIPLE OTHER LOCATIONS, VERY SUCCESSFUL CHAIN.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE HOPE TO MAKE THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT SOON.
BUT BECAUSE THE PROJECT'S IN ITS INFANCY, WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT YET.
SO THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU FOR ALL THOSE OTHER ITEMS I MENTIONED BEFORE.
BUT WE THOUGHT IF WE GAVE YOU A GOOD OVERALL SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, IT WOULD GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE HOPEFULLY SHORTEN PRESENTATIONS IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU. UM.
CURRENTLY AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE COUNTY.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO DO IT IN PALM BAY.
UM, SO WHAT WE END UP WITH ULTIMATELY IS ON 124 ACRES, 24 ACRES OF IT BEING COMMERCIAL.
AND THAT'S. ALL OF THIS APPEAR.
AND THEN WE HAVE 16 ACRES OF IT BEING APARTMENTS.
APARTMENTS OBVIOUSLY ARE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY'RE TAXED THE SAME AS COMMERCIAL.
SO, AGAIN, A BENEFIT TO THIS CITY THERE AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TOWARDS THE BACK AND THIS AREA AGAIN WITH A COMPATIBILITY TO MALABAR LAKES WEST TO THE EAST OF US. UM.
NOW TRAFFIC. WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE.
THEY TYPICALLY TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS.
THEY LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM FUNDING TO DESIGN TO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION TO STORMWATER TREATMENT.
THEY'RE VERY DETAILED AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COMPLETE AND INTO DOT NOW FOR REVIEW.
AND SO WE'RE ALREADY REALLY FAR DOWN THE PATH WITH THE FOUR LANING OF MALABAR ROAD.
WHAT YOU SEE IN WHITE UP HERE JUST NORTH OF THE COMMERCIAL IS LAND THAT WE ANTICIPATED PROVIDING FOR THE FUTURE, WIDENING OF MALABAR ROAD FOR THE FOUR LEADING.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING ULTIMATELY THIS ROADWAY CONNECTION HERE.
IT LINES UP WITH POPPY PARK'S ENTRANCE.
IT ALSO PROVIDES AN ACCESS TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
BRENTWOOD LAKES HAS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THIS WOULD ALSO BE WE THINK THAT WOULD BE A BIG BENEFIT.
IF YOUR TEAM DOES WELL, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT WITH ALSO THE OTHER EVENTS AND THINGS THAT GO ON THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE THIS PROPOSED DRIVEWAY HERE WHICH LINES UP DIRECTLY WITH THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH.
SO WE DON'T THINK THAT WOULD WARRANT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT AS SAFE AS WE CAN, AS LIMITED NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS AS WE CAN, WHICH IS YOUR TYPICAL DOT STANDARD FOR SAFETY.
IT WAS DESIGNED FOR FOUR AND SIX LANES.
SO THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN.
IT WOULD BE A LOT SIMPLER NOW TO PAVE THE ADDITIONAL TWO OR THREE LANES FOR THE PARKWAY.
SO AT LEAST THERE'S SOME BIG BENEFIT THERE.
MALABAR ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, WASN'T ANTICIPATED TO BE FOUR LANE WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT.
SO THAT'S WHY THE PDR NEEDS STUDY AND THINGS LIKE THAT TAKE LONGER.
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SO THERE IS SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.AND SO THAT'LL BE A BIG PART OF WHAT PULTE WAS DOING EARLIER TONIGHT.
AND BASICALLY ANY DEVELOPMENT OF SIZE IN PALM BAY WE DO TRAFFIC.
SO COUNCIL IS AWARE ANY PROJECT THAT EXCEEDS 100 TRIPS, WHICH IS VERY EASY TO DO ON ANY COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS, HOLDS OUR FEET TO THE FIRE ON AND SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS CRITICAL TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF PALM BAY.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE DID HAVE THE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM MR. THAT AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
AND JUST SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IF MOVE FORWARD WITH FOR TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY THE PALM BAY IMPACT FEES WOULD BE OVER $3.6 MILLION.
THE WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES ALONE WOULD BE $3.3 MILLION.
THE AD VALOREM REVENUE, WHICH IS YEARLY BASED ON THE CURRENT MILLAGE RATE, THE $775,000 A YEAR, THAT'S A TOTAL OF $7.7 MILLION.
SO IT DOES PROVIDE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY WITH THAT TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, PLUS WHATEVER IS REQUIRED OF THE DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING US VOLUNTEERING TO BRING DOWN THE PARKWAY TO THE SITE IF WARRANTED, TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WITH THAT, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LENGTH OF ESPECIALLY THE HOUR OF THE NIGHT.
THEY'VE ALREADY TIPPED OFF, SO I WANT TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING AND THE GAME ONE OF THE FINALS.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU, MR. WISE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING ANNEXING INTO PALM BAY AND MOREOVER, THE 24 ACRES THAT YOU MENTIONED COMMERCIAL.
I MEAN, I'M GOING TO JUST PIGGYBACK OFF ANOTHER ITEM AND WILL THAT BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE BUILDING THE OTHER HOMES? WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT YET WHERE WE HAVE THE PHASING, BUT WE HAVE THE RESTAURANT, SO WE WOULD START.
THAT IS ONE OF OUR INITIAL PHASES.
ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S SUCH A STRONG DEMAND FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.
WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO BE AT LEAST A PORTION OF IT IN THE FIRST PHASE.
AND THEN I PERSONALLY WANT TO SEE THAT RV PARK SO BADLY.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.
WE GOT INTO THE TO THE REGION REALLY DEEP LAST NIGHT.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE LIKE JUST ONE DUMP SITE OR NOT? EVERY SINGLE SITE IS GOING TO HAVE WATER, SEWER, CABLE, ELECTRIC, INTERNET TO EACH INDIVIDUAL SITE.
WE WANT TO BE A REALLY HIGH END RV PARK.
AND WE EVEN EVEN HAVE ONE OF THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS IS TO ONLY ALLOW CERTAIN LATER YEAR MODEL RVS SO THAT IT DOES KIND OF UPHOLD TO THAT LEVEL. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING VERY DETAILED TO WORK OUT DOWN THE ROAD.
SO YOU SAID AN UPSCALE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PLANS FOR OUR OWN RV PARK WITH RED POPPY REGIONAL PARK. SO WHEN YOU SAY UPSCALE, WHAT ARE THE COMPETING FACTORS ON THAT? SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE WORKED WITH THE CITY, SO THAT WASN'T COMPETING SO THAT THEY WERE COMPLEMENTARY TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE YOURS IS ALSO MORE OF A CAMPGROUND.
THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY OF THAT TYPE OF USE AT ALL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DID IT THE WAY WE DID IT.
SO THAT THEY'RE NOT COMPETING IN.
QUESTION. YOU TO GET COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I'M EXCITED. I LIKE THE PROJECT.
MY QUESTION IS ONCE AGAIN, THE PARKWAY, THAT EXTENSION.
ARE YOU ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HELP BUILD THAT EXTENSION OR.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS CONFUSED AT.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS TRAFFIC STUDIES AND SEE HOW IT'S WARRANTED.
I CAN'T I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE GOING TO SAY AT THIS TIME.
BUT A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE OVER MULTIPLE YEARS AND PHASES IS GOING TO WARRANT SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT ALL BE PART OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.
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SCHOOL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COMING OFF.THE PARKWAY IS COMING IN TO MALABAR AND A LOT OF STUFF IS GROWING IN THAT AREA.
HOUSES ARE GOING UP RIGHT OFF THE PARKWAY.
WE APPROVED A LOT OF PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST GOING TO EXPLODE IN THAT AREA.
UM. THEY'LL BE MAD COMING OFF THE PARKWAY, YOU KNOW.
SO AND ONE THING I PROBABLY DIDN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN GREAT DETAIL LAST NIGHT.
IT WAS ALSO THE WALKABILITY OF IT.
SO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING AT THIS SHARED ENTRANCE OF POPPY PARK, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WE KNOW IS COMING AT MALABAR ROAD AND THE PARKWAY AND WE KNOW THERE'S A GROCERY STORE COMING AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER, WILL ALLOW FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO WALK AND BIKE TO THAT REGIONAL TRAIL THAT GOES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF MALABAR ROAD TO POPPY
[CONSENT AGENDA]
PARK. AND WHAT I THINK IS A HIDDEN GEM OF PALM BAY IS JUST WEST OF HERE.DOWN THE ROAD IS THREE FORKS MARSH.
THERE'S BEAUTIFUL PICNIC TABLES THAT ARE COVERED.
I LOVE GOING OUT THERE MYSELF.
AND IT'S A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK.
SO THE WALKABILITY IS IMPORTANT.
THERE'S A LOT OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITY THAT PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THERE.
ANY STAFF COMING? I'M. NO, SIR, UNLESS YOU'D LIKE TO TALK TO ANY OF STAFF MEMBERS.
IF IT'S OKAY WITH ME, SHERMAN, I WAS ONE OF THE RECREATION DIRECTOR AND COME UP AND.
I'D LIKE TO ASK HIS OPINION OF THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT.
[2. Award of Qualifications: Campground Design Services, Fred Poppe Regional Park - RFQ 28-0-2022 - Parks and Facilities Department (Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc.); authorization to negotiate a Master Consultant Agreement.]
IN RESPECT TO THE CAMPGROUND VERSUS RV, CORRECT? THAT'S BASICALLY ABOUT IT. YES, SIR.GOT IT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT CAMPGROUND OUT THERE AND OUR RV PARK THAT'S PROPOSED, I KNOW THE DEVELOPER IS SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE COMPETING AGAINST YOURS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT AND YOUR THOUGHTS OF.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. MASTER CHIEF.
WE UNDERSTAND OF YOUR APPROVAL.
I'M GLAD I CARRY THAT MUCH WEIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. BILL BATTEN, A 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THIS TIME. I SAID I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT AND IT WAS AT THE PANZI MEETING LAST NIGHT.
AND THE REASON WHY WAS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY SURROUNDED WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THEY AREN'T EXPANDING ANYTHING FURTHER OUT THAN WHAT WE ALREADY ARE BASICALLY.
OTHERWISE WE'D BE PROVIDING THEM ALL THE SERVICES, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING ANY OF THE BENEFIT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS IN FAVOR OF GOING ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT IT WAS MEETING SO MANY, SO MUCH OF THE CRITERIA THAT THE CITY HAS ASKED FOR OF THE INSTALLING THE WATER, THE SEWER, AND THE FACT THAT THEY EVEN CHANGED THEIR PLAN TO HAVE APARTMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY THEY'VE DONE A LOT.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND SO THEY HIT THE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
AND WE'RE AND THEY WERE USING OUR WATER AND SEWER.
THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
THEY WOULD HAVE GOT EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THEREAFTER.
EVERY SINGLE TAX DOLLAR WOULD HAVE GONE TO THEM.
SO THAT THAT WAS MY BIGGEST ONE.
ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS ONE TIME WHEN I FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE.
AND AS FOR THE CAMP GROUNDS BEING OF TOO, YOU KNOW, CONFLICT OF EACH OTHER.
WELL, I HEARD IT LAST NIGHT AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD THING.
COMPETITION PROMOTES PERFORMANCE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AND YES, I WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS.
AND EXCEPT HE DIDN'T BUILD ANYTHING TO THE HORSE TRAILS.
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BUT THERE ARE NO EXCEPT THERE ARE NO HORSE TRAILS IN THE THREE FORKS.PRESERVE ALL OF THAT ACREAGE BECAUSE I HAVE A $45 TICKET TO PROVE IT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS ITEM COUNCIL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT IS WE DO HAVE MALABAR LAKES THAT'S WITHIN THE COUNTY AND YET THEY'RE USING OUR CITY SERVICES.
UH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START CONSIDERING.
AS YOU COULD SEE, THAT WAS ALL COUNTY PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE COMING INTO TO ANNEXATION.
RIGHT. SO THAT THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE HAD.
AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.
I KNOW I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH STAFF.
I'M RIGHT THERE WITH THE MAYOR BECAUSE I'VE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHY I LOOKED RIGHT AT YOU LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH WITH THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT NOW.
YEARS AGO, THERE WAS NOTHING OUT THERE.
BUT TODAY, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AS A CITY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO THROW THAT IN AS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION.
MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, I SUPPOSE, TO.
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH. BE THAT, MA'AM.
WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, SIR. ALL RIGHT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO OVERSTEP MY BOUNDS, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE A POINT OF THAT GENTLEMAN.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
30 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS NO GROWTH OUT WEST WHERE THERE IS RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE ISSUE OF MALABAR LAKES.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
BUT ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, SEEING NONE.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
MOTION IMPROVE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AND ORDINANCE AS NOTED WITH A DASH FOR DASH 2022 FIRST READING SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SMITH. AUDIENCE 2022 DEF 66 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION DX ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDNANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS FRED REZVANI.
I LIVE AT 4409 JEFFERSON STREET IN HOLLYWOOD.
I'M LOOKING TO HOPEFULLY AFTER PURCHASE AND GETTING THE ZONING CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL OR TO DOING A SIMPLE SPLIT AND BUILDING WHATEVER I CAN THAT FITS THE CRITERIA FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.
TO HOLMES, CORRECT, SIR? YES. OUT OF THE 2.3 ACRES.
THERE IS A SKETCH WITH THE SURVEY.
HAVE THAT, SIR? YES, SIR, WE HAVE.
OKAY, SIR. YOU ANY ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. A MAYOR? YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
NO QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT.
I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A PUBLIC CONCERN THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE PACKET PACKET FROM TANYA AND ROBERT CAMPBELL COMMENTING ON PRESERVING LANDS FOR NATURE, RAINWATER AND AND ETC.. I DON'T I DON'T FEEL THAT THIS IS AS IMPACTFUL BEING 2.3 ACRES AND ONLY TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
I WILL. I'M PLANNING ON BUYING MORE IF YOU LET ME.
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COUNCIL. MADAM SHERMAN, ANY COMMENTS? NO, SIR, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IN NOT I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO CASE.CP 2020 222 MOTION APPROVED CASE.
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SO NOT ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE THIS IS UNANIMOUSLY ITEM 20 MS..
MS.. SMITH ORDINANCE 2022 TO 67 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 184 SUBDIVISIONS A MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS FOR MODEL HOMES PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDERS IS IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND MADAM SHERMAN? YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A MINOR CHANGE TO ORDINANCE RELATED TO SUBDIVISIONS AND SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE ABILITY OF DEVELOPERS TO BUILD MODEL HOMES. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS A CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD CHANGE IT, INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT IT WOULD BE 25 MAXIMUM MODEL HOMES PER SUBDIVISION, IT WOULD BE INSTEAD PER PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT WHICH WOULD SUPPORT PHASING AS DEVELOPERS BUILD OUT SOME OF THE LARGER SUBDIVISIONS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
[5. Consideration of performing maintenance on the seawall located along Sunswept Road NE.]
LATE AND GREAT SOLUTION AND HE QUESTIONS COUNCIL THAT.SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEE KNOW I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR I AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEMS TWO AND FIVE, TWO AND FIVE.
FOUR FOR MR. BATTEN, ITEM EIGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT, BUT IT WAS POOR OK.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM EIGHT WAS WITHDRAWN.
A MAYOR. IF I CAN'T COMMIT SOMEONE ELSE? YES, SIR. YES, I'D LIKE TO PULL SIX, PLEASE.
SIX? ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WISHED TO PULL AN ITEM.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEMS TWO, FIVE AND SIX.
SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? AND NOT ALL IN FAVOR.
THUS AS UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE CONSENT.
YES, THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 27, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, COMMENDING REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FINE, SENATOR DEBBIE MAYFIELD AND THE FLORIDA LEGAL CITIES AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS TEAM FOR THEIR HARD WORK REPRESENTING THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND FLORIDA'S MUNICIPALITIES DURING THE 2022 FLORIDA LEGISLATIVE SESSION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GILBERT. BILL BOUGHTON, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
AND ALREADY WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT AMOUNT AND WE HAVE WE'RE STILL IN THE PLANNING STAGES.
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AND THEN AND THEN TO FIND OUT THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE AND WE'VE SPENT MORE THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.RIGHT. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHERE WE AT? WE'RE WHERE WE ARE IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF THE CAMPGROUND? I DON'T MEAN THE PLANNING PHASE.
I MEAN THE ESTIMATED ESTIMATED.
I KNOW THAT'S SPECULATION IN TODAY'S ECONOMY.
SO WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST GOING TO BE AND TO WHEN IS THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE? BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY ABOUT THREE YEARS BEHIND WHAT WE ANTICIPATED.
THAT IS PART OF THE REASON FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, TO GET A CONSULTANT, ENGINEER, ARCHITECT, TO DO THE FULL DESIGNS FOR US AND TO GIVE US REALISTIC COST ESTIMATES.
1.7 MILLION OF THAT WAS FROM THE TDC GRANT.
NEARLY $1,000,000 WAS FROM IMPACT FEES.
AND THEN GENERAL FUND RESERVES WERE SET ASIDE A BIT OVER 500,000.
[6. Consideration of allocating available General Fund contingency dollars for the cost of additional Credit Card Processing Fees ($53,334).]
SO ALL THAT MONEY IS MOST OF THAT IS STILL AVAILABLE AS WE'VE BEEN PREPARING TO GIVE COUNCIL A TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT THE PHASING LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE TRUE COST WILL BE.AND IN TERMS OF THE TIMING QUESTION, I ALSO CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE UNTIL I KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THIS STUDY WILL BE, IT WILL BE HARD FOR ME TO TO GIVE THAT GOOD ANSWER FOR EVERYONE. PART OF WHAT CAUSED SOME OF THE DELAY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS THERE WERE EARLY DESIGNS THAT WERE DONE.
BUT PER FLORIDA STATUTES, YOU CAN'T DO A DESIGN OF A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY COST $4 MILLION OR GREATER WITHOUT DOING A COMPETITIVE PROCESS FOR YOUR DESIGN. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE COULDN'T USE THE OLD DESIGNS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS LIKE WE'RE DOING NOW.
THAT KIND OF HAD US RESTARTING ESSENTIALLY SO OLDER PRIOR YEARS.
WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP BACK IN 2016 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, WHATEVER THOSE PROJECTIONS WERE BACK THEN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEW AND AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN GET PROJECTIONS IN THE SHORT TERM, AND THEN WE WILL BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AND GIVE YOU OUR BEST RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF PHASING AND WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO BASED ON THE FUNDING WE HAVE. Q MA'AM, BUT YOU'RE IN.
LITTLE ROUND 219 TRENTON AVENUE.
I AM TOTALLY AGAINST AN RV PARK IN THE CITY PARK FOR ONE.
YOU HAVEN'T REALLY TOLD US WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A POOL? IS THERE GOING TO BE A GOLF COURSE? IS THERE GOING TO BE ANYTHING FOR ME TO TAKE MY RV AND GO PARK IT UP THERE? NOW I'M HEARING THERE'S A DEVELOPER GOING TO BUILD A PLACE, IS GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT STUFF THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AS AN RV.
ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE FULL, FULL HOOKUPS? SEWER, WATER, ELECTRIC, CABLE? ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY AMENITIES TO ME FOR ME TO ENJOY, OR AM I GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUT ON THE ROAD TO PALM BAY AND TRAVEL AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GET TO THE BEACH? ENJOY THAT. SO I JUST I THINK IT'S BAD MONEY TO SPEND FOR AN RV PARK, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS REAL NICE ONE JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD IN AN RV OR I KNOW WHERE I WOULD GO.
I THINK IT'S BAD MONEY THE CITY IS GETTING READY TO SPEND.
I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A PROFIT OFF OF IT.
THAT I CAN SEE. OF COURSE, I HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE COMING UP WITH OVER THERE.
BUT IT'S JUST I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA.
YOU COULD PUT TWO OR THREE COPS ON THE ROAD WITH THAT MONEY.
THANK YOU. MADAM SHERMAN, COUNSEL YOUR DIRECTION.
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IN MOTION MOTION AUTHORIZED CITY STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A MASTER CONSULTANT AGREEMENT AND THE FIRST TASK ORDER OF RFQ.HASHTAG 20 8-0- 2022 SLASH EMCEE FRED POPPY PARK REGIONAL PARK KENT BROWN DESIGN SERVICES FOR DESIGN SERVICES RELATED TO THE CAMPGROUND WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES INC IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX DEPUTY MAYOR.
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SO THAT'S WHY I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS PART.AND THAT TDC MONEY IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE BACK, RIGHT?
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UH COUNCILMAN.I BELIEVE THE TDC DON'T JUST GIVE OUT MONEY LIKE THAT WITHOUT DOING THEIR HOMEWORK, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, IT'S BEEN IT WORKED GREAT AT MELBOURNE WICKHAM PARK, THE SAME CONCEPT.
IT WORKED GREAT. IT'S PROVEN SOLD OUT EVERY YEAR.
SO THE THE THE DESIRE, THE, THE FOLKS WE ATTRACT THING WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE THE NORTHERNER THAT THAT NEEDS TO COME DOWN HERE AND SPEND TIME.
SO IT'S A PROJECT I'M ON BOARD.
BEFORE BEFORE YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I HAD COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO GESTURING.
IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL LONG POINT.
IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL MULTIPLE AREAS AROUND THE COUNTY.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ONE BE SUCCESSFUL HERE, TOO.
AGAIN, THANK YOU, PROCUREMENT.
ENFORCER. YEAH, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT IT.
SUPPORT THIS RV PARK AND PROPERTY PARK.
I THINK THE DEVELOPER RV PARK IS GOING TO ATTRACT MORE RV YEARS INTO PALM BAY AND WITH A PERSON COULD CAMP STAY AS LONG AS THEY WANT ON OUR CAMPGROUNDS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT'S JUST GOING TO THE WORD'S GOING TO SPREAD.
MY OFFICE IS ON PALM BAY ROAD AND LIPSCOMB AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I SAID, I ONLY COULD IMAGINE ALL THEM RVS.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE HUNDREDS OF RVS THERE.
IT MUST BE LIVING IN PALM BAY.
NO WHERE TO GO. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO AND.
BUT THAT PARKING LOT IS FILLED.
I DON'T SEE THEY GOT RVS OR BOATS.
SO LIKE BILL BATTEN, COMPETITION IS GOING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE TO PALM BAY.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING FORWARD.
I THINK WE COULD DO A GOOD JOB.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
HI. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
GILBERT. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY OWNER RESPONSIBILITY BECOME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY'S. OKAY.
SO THAT BRINGS UP THE QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATION OF THE COST OF HOW MUCH THE SEAWALL IS GOING TO BE? ONE MORE TIME WHERE WE TOOK SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM AND NOW IT'S OURS.
QUESTION NUMBER TWO THIS IS THE IMPORTANT ONE FOR ME.
WILL THE FUNDS BE COMING OUT OF THE $150 ROAD BOND? GOOD ANSWER.
WILL IT BE COMING OUT OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND THAT WE'VE BEEN SELLING FOR? ANOTHER GOOD ANSWER, WHICH NOW LEADS ME TO QUESTION NUMBER THREE.
AND THAT SAME ONE IS, SO WHERE WILL THE FUNDS BE COMING FUND TO BUILD THIS SEAWALL OR REPAIR THE SEAWALL OR WHATEVER IS REQUIRED COMING FROM FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP AS A OWNER RESPONSIBILITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. UNFORTUNATELY, I DO NOT HAVE A COST ESTIMATE YET, WHICH IS PART OF MY CHALLENGE.
I JUST NEEDED TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR INITIAL CONSIDERATION OF WOULD YOU AUTHORIZE US TO CONSIDER TAKING THIS SECTION OF SEAWALL? BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS, UNFORTUNATELY, AS MR.
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BATTEN HAS MENTIONED, THERE IS NO CURRENT EXISTING OWNERSHIP FOR THIS SEAWALL.IT IS DIRECTLY ALONG SUN SWEPT.
WHAT DO WE DO? IT DOES NEED MAINTENANCE.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON SEA WALLS.
MY TEAM IS NOT REALLY ADEPT TO DEALING WITH THIS.
SO WE WOULD IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO CONSIDER TAKING THIS ON AS A MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY, I'M COMING AT IT WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH AN EXPERT ON SEAWALL REPAIRS, HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT, GIVE US AN ESTIMATE.
MY EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS WOULD BE A GENERAL FUND FUNDED ITEM IF WE GET TO THAT PLACE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO. AND THE POINT IS, WE CAN'T NEGLECT.
FACT, OUR. THE CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING TO BE PAVING THAT ROAD IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE HERE.
AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING NOW AND IT FAILS LATER, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE.
THERE'S NO ONE TO GIVE THE BLAME TO, I GUESS, AS IT WERE.
BUT JUST TO CLARIFY SOME OF BILL'S QUESTIONS, I BROUGHT THIS ITEM UP TO THE CITY.
I HAD THE RESIDENTS OF SAN SWEPT WHO WERE ORIGINALLY THAT THIS SEAWALL WAS PART OF THE CITY.
THE SEAWALL IS IN DECENT SHAPE, BUT THERE IS SOME EROSION AROUND IT.
SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A WHOLE NEW SEAWALL.
NO, I DO NOT. I JUST THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MAINTENANCE, MAYBE SOME VILLAINS FOR THE HOLES.
OTHER THAN THAT, I ASKED MISS SHERMAN, I SAID, HEY, WHO OWNS THE SEAWALL? AND SHE GOES, WELL, IT'S NOT THE CITY.
IT'S KIND OF JUST SITTING THERE.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN HOA THERE EITHER, BILL.
SO THERE IS THERE IS NO HOA THERE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, SIR.
PRIVACY WAS A. THANK YOU, BILL.
AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
YES. SO MY CONCERN HERE IS IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY.
I KNOW THAT WE ALREADY ALLOCATED SOME FUNDS ASIDE, BUT I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE IMPACT FEES AND I WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF HAVE A GENERAL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF HOW MANY IMPACT DOLLARS WE BROUGHT IN FOR FISCAL YEAR 21.
WITH WITH THESE IMPACT FEES, THE PROCESSING FEES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW WERE THE PROCESSING FEES? BUT WITH THE FEES ALTOGETHER.
SO HOW MUCH HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE MAKE FROM DEVELOPERS AND IMPACT FEES IN 2021 WITH CREDIT CARDS? ADAM SHERMAN. WELL, READILY TONIGHT I CAN PULL A REPORT IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT.
I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN THAT WOULD TELL YOU.
HOW HOW DIFFERENT IMPACT FEES HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN PAID, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
I DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE DETAILS, BUT I CAN GET IT FOR YOU.
THAT WOULD TELL YOU HOW MUCH DOLLAR VALUE IS PAID VIA A CHECK.
SOME CASH, NOT THAT THEY PAY CASH.
I KIND OF DOUBT THAT. OR CREDIT CARD.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? I AM. BECAUSE LET ME GO LET ME DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER HERE.
SO WE'RE PAYING $53,000 IN CREDIT CARD FEES.
I IMAGINE, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A STORE OR ANYTHING.
SO FOR 53,000, I'M GOING TO SAY WE MADE A LOT OF MONEY IN IMPACT FEES VIA CREDIT CARDS.
WE HAVE TAKEN IN A LOT OF IMPACT FEES THIS YEAR BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN SO STRONG.
SO YEAH, THERE'S BEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN THE IMPACT FEES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AS A CITY.
ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO SEE THAT SEE THAT NUMBER FOR CREDIT CARDS.
WE CAN. WE CAN DO THAT. I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT TONIGHT, SIR.
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AND TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WELL, MA'AM, WE WE'VE COME TO A PLACE WHERE.WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE CREDIT CARD USER WILL BE PAYING THOSE FEES.
WE AT THAT PLACE YET? YES, SIR. AS OF THE END OF MARCH, WE TRANSITION TO OUR NEW SYSTEM.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNSEL, I NEED A MOTION SO MOVED.
AMERICAN HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
WE ARE NOW ON OLD, UNFINISHED OR OLD BUSINESS.
IF I CAN MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I CAN MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
WE ARE NOW ON. NEW BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER ONE.
SO THIS ITEM IS NORMALLY A GENERAL.
I WOULD HAVE PUT IT UNDER CONSENT BECAUSE IT'S A NORMAL THING WE DO EVERY YEAR.
SO THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SALARY DOLLARS THAT ARE UNSPENT.
SO WHEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR GENERAL FUND, WE FOUND THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY BE COMPLETELY FINE THE REST OF THIS FISCAL YEAR WITHOUT THAT MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE BUCKET.
AND THAT LED TO A DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION THAT I BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS TRYING TO SOLVE THE LONG TERM FUNDING OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND CHALLENGE.
AND ONE OF MY MY FUTURE STRATEGIES THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO THE CRA SUNSETTING IN 2024 IS A CONCEPT I KNOW I MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT THE CONCEPT OF TAKING THAT AD VALOREM FUNDING AND DIRECTING IT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD AS A REOCCURRING FUNDING SOURCE INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
NOW, THE CURRENT DESIGNATED BALANCE IN ROMAIN'S FUND IS ABOUT $4.8 MILLION.
LET'S TAKE IT FROM FROM IN THE FUTURE WHEN WHEN THIS SUNSETS, THE SIERRA SUNSETS.
RIGHT. SO WE CAN DEDICATE THAT AT THE LAW AND PEACE.
RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 300 LIFTOFFS OR LAUNCHES, 300 THAT THAT JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS AGO WAS INCONCEIVABLE. AND THERE ARE OTHER IT'S NOT JUST BLUE ORIGIN.
THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE WANTING TO COMPETE TO THAT.
SO I'D LIKE US TO TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY TO TO BRING THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, AND INCENTIVIZE THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESS.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT COMMERCIAL INCREASING THAT BASE, IT'S GOING TO, IN THE LONG TERM, BE REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR OUR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE.
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GETTING THAT COMMERCIAL TAX BASE HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED AND INCREASING THAT NOW WE COULD JUST TAKE THAT PIECE OF AD VALOREM AND THAT'LL BE A FUNNEL TO DEDICATE THAT.BUT THINK OF HOW GREAT IT WOULD BE IF WE HAVE THAT TYPE OF RESOURCE TO TO INCENTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE INCENTIVES TO THESE BUSINESSES.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S ON THE LONG TERM WHEN THAT SUN SAYS THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WHERE I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF AND DEDICATING SOME OF THAT TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TODAY.
WHERE I STAND IS WE'VE WE'VE HEARD ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES AND THE CHALLENGES.
WE KNOW THAT WE'VE JUST ELEVATE OR WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO START BUILDING STATION SEVEN.
RIGHT. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT OF US TO DEDICATE THAT AS A STARTING POINT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE ONE LINE ITEM VETOED THE $400,000 THAT WE LOBBIED FOR.
BUT PART OF THAT SOLUTION COULD BE, HEY, WE WANT SKIN IN THE GAME THAT WE HAVE OTHER THAN LEVELING STATION ONE OUT, RIGHT? WE CAN GO NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
WE DEDICATED $1.3 MILLION TOWARDS THE BUILDING OF THAT FIRE STATION.
SO I THINK OUR MAIN GOAL STATION ONE IS BEING.
REALLY CHARGED AND THEY'RE MAKING ALL THEIR CALLS.
BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PUBLIC SAFETY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START CONSIDERING THAT AS WELL.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE AND I'D LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT THAT EFFORT TO START BUILDING THAT STATION, TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND DEDICATED FOR THAT PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT.
THOSE THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS WITH THIS ITEM.
AND I'M WILLING TO TO SUPPORT WHATEVER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WOULD BE.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
SO TWO ITEMS IN THE LONG TERM.
THE, YOU KNOW, THE CRA BUILDING OUR OWN INCENTIVE PLAN WE HAVE RMS JONI BROWN THAT THAT BOUGHT THE WAL MART FROM KOKO THAT THAT WAL MART CENTER OUT IN KOKO THAT DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SHE'S GOT THAT TYPE OF EXPERTIZE.
WE COULD, YOU KNOW, GATHER INTEL AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN THE LONG RUN.
AND AND I THINK THAT'LL INCREASE OUR OUR AD VALOREM AS A WHOLE.
AND THEN TODAY WHAT'S BEFORE US IS I LIKE TO TRY AND ADDRESS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND START DIRECTING SOME OF THAT FUNDING RIGHT NOW TOWARDS THAT FIRE STATION SEVEN. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
WE HAVE TO SPEAK SPEAKER CARDS.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNSEL BILL BURTON.
GO BACK IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
WE SAW WHAT IT ENDED UP HAVING TO COST US.
SO THE TAXPAYERS TOOK IT OUT OF THEIR POCKET, HELPED THE CITY OUT.
THAT'S WHY WE KEEP SAYING WE NEED A DEDICATED ROAD FUND MAINTENANCE.
WE NEVER KNOW, BUT AT LEAST WE'D HAVE.
TO ME, IT'S A BIRD IN THE HAND AND ONE IN THE BUSH.
RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN COMING INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND HAS BEEN AN UNSUSTAINABLE SOURCE, WHICH IS THE SALE OF GREEN SPACE WITHIN THE CITY.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH GREEN SPACE AVAILABLE.
SO WE'RE SELLING THE GREEN SPACE SO WE CAN PAVE OUR ROADS.
WHERE IS THE INCENTIVE TO KEEP PEOPLE COMING IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE THAT EVEN LOOKS HALFWAY PRESENTABLE? AND OTHER THAN A YACHT, EVERYBODY'S HOUSE IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BECAUSE THE GREEN SPACE IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY DISAPPEAR.
SO BATTEN, BEING THE CONSERVATIONIST TYPE PERSON, IS HE SAYING IT'S TIME FOR US TO START LOOKING AT HOW MUCH OF THAT GREEN SPACE HAVE WE MET? AS MUCH AS WE REALLY WANT TO DISBAND OF.
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YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY EXCESS PROPERTY, IT WAS SO WE COULD GET SOME GET SOME MONEY FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE.WELL, ALSO, WE NEED TO START SAYING HOW CAN WE CONSERVE SOME OF THAT GREEN SPACE NOW? AND THE LAST LAST ONE GOES TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT INCENTIVES TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO COME HERE.
RIGHT. BUT THEN I'M GOING TO LOOK AND I'M SAY I PULLED UP AND I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME.
I TOOK IT OUT FROM LAST NIGHT'S MEETING.
WE WERE LOOKING AT THE INDUSTRIAL SITES WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE'RE GOING TO ENTICE THESE BIG COMPANIES TO COME HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OUR MILLION DOLLARS TO.
I'M NOT. I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU, MAYOR.
I'D SAY WE'RE GOING TO ENTICE THEM TO COME HERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT THEM.
ONE HALF OF THE DESIGNATED INDUSTRIAL SITE WAS BEING CONSIDERED TURNED INTO RESIDENTIAL.
ONE HALF OF YOUR INDUSTRIAL LAND AVAILABILITY WAS GOING TO BE TURNED INTO RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK REGARDING THE FIRE STATION ON PALM BAY ROAD, I WANT THAT STATION TO BE THERE AS WELL.
AND THIS IS A TRIAL RUN OF THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON WHY I WANT TO SEE HOW IT WORKS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
AND. NO, NO FURTHER COMMENT, SIR.
I ROLE. I'M IN SUPPORT WITH MR. SHERMAN. I MEAN, MS..
SHERMAN. I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
DEPUTY MAYOR. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE 1.3 $1,340,011 TOWARDS THE PALM BAY ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND AND THE FAR ACCOUNTING $631,462.
GOT A MOTION SECONDED IN THE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
I LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, COUNCILMAN.
YOU DIDN'T GET THE FUNDING FROM THE GOVERNOR.
HE VETOED. HOW MUCH WAS IT? 470,000. 400,000.
$100,000 TO HELP BUILD THE FIRE STATION, AM I CORRECT? SO WE GOT FOUR APPARATUS.
BUT WHAT WAS FOR THE BUILDING OR THE FARM? IT WAS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
BUT THAT THAT MONEY, WE STILL NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL COST OF THE FIRE STATION.
IT'S IT'S GOOD THAT YOU ASK THAT QUESTION.
WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON SORT OF REFINING WHAT THAT WILL BE.
WE'VE HEARD ESTIMATES ANYWHERE FROM LIKE 3 TO 4 MILLION BALLPARK.
WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS SUMMER IS GETTING A PROTOTYPE OF A FUTURE FIRE STATION THAT IS SCALABLE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT ALREADY DESIGNED READY TO GO AND HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH IT COSTS. WE CAN USE THAT SAME PROTOTYPE FOR ALL THESE FUTURE LOCATIONS WE NEED TO BUILD OUT.
IN DIFFERENCE WITH MY COLLEAGUE.
I'M KIND OF WITH THE MAYOR ON THIS.
BECAUSE ROADS ARE IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO FUND OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE.
BUT THAT FIREFIGHTERS, BOTH OF THEM, COULD SAVE LIVES.
A GOOD ROAD COULD SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND A FIRE STATION COULD SAVE MULTIPLE LIVES.
AND IT SEEMED TO ME DURING AN ELECTION YEAR, YOU'D THINK.
THAT'S NOT A THAT WASN'T A LOT OF MONEY.
FOR THE STATE. THE. SIGN OFF ON.
BECAUSE BEYOND THAT WE ASKED HIM FOR 1.2 MILLION FOR BAFFLE BOXES.
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SO I'M SCRATCHING MY HEAD.IF HE CAN'T GIVE US 400,000, WHAT THINKS WE'RE GOING TO GET? 1.2 MILLION? SAVE OUR LAGOON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WOULD GO EACH, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD OFF.
AND GET YOUR ESTIMATE HOW MUCH IS FIRE STATION GOING TO COST AND SEE IF IT'S DOABLE BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO PUT OUR FIRE STATION ON THE BACK BURNER.
IT'S LIKE I MEAN, WE GOT REPAVING EVERY ROAD IN THE CITY.
LIKE BILL BATTEN SAID, THE TAXPAYER WROTE THAT CHECK.
ARE WE GOING TO GO ASK THEM TO WRITE ANOTHER CHECK FOR.
YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE DOWN THREE FIRE STATIONS WE NEED.
I JUST. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE NEED POLICE OFFICERS, BUT WE NEED THEM FIRE STATIONS.
WE HAD A BIG FIRE HERE AT ONE TIME RIGHT IN OUR HISTORY.
YEAH. YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT.
JUST THIS PAST WEEK, THERE WERE BATTLING DIFFERENT FIRES.
AND WE'RE ASKING ALL THESE DIFFERENT STATIONS TO GO RESPOND TO ONE, ONE FIRE.
AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S PROMPTED MY PASSION.
BUT I WANT TO SHARE WITH OUR MY COLLEAGUES HERE.
LISTEN, EITHER WAY, WE'RE DOING A RESPONSIBLE THING.
WE'RE WANTING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
I WOULD WANT US TO BE UNANIMOUS IN WHATEVER WE DECIDE.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT WE MAY HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO PROVIDE A VENUE FOR THAT FIRE STATION AND BUILD ON THAT.
BUT EITHER WAY, I REALLY I'M REALLY STRONG IN SAYING WE SHOULD BE UNITED IN WHATEVER WE DECIDE, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S ABOUT IMPROVING OUR CITY.
AND I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY DIVISION ON THIS DIET.
WE WE HAVE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
PUBLIC SAFETY HAS GOT TO BE NUMBER ONE.
NOW, ROADS ARE PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL.
BUT WE ARE IN A IN A POSITION, GENTLEMEN, THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
I'VE BEEN I'VE SEEN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS IN ACTION.
THEY PROLONGED THE LIVES OF BOTH MY PARENTS.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN A IN A POSITION WHERE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE OUT THERE ON THE JOB AND WE NEED TO SOMEHOW START THINKING ABOUT HOW TO SUPPORT THAT.
FIRE STATION ONE, WE GOT TO SUPPORT FIRE STATION SIX.
SO I WAS LOOKING AT A WAY OF JUST, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS OUR COMMITMENT.
WE CAN'T WAIT TO DO THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT IF WE START PLUGGING AWAY JUST A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING FROM.
WELL, LET ME CAN I FINISH? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU JUST SAID, MAYOR? I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK OF FIRE STATION FIVE.
WE BROKE GROUND ON THAT WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN OFFICE AND THAT WAS DONE BY CB FUNDS.
BUT WHY CAN'T WE DO SEVEN THE SAME WAY AND ADD SOME OF THIS MONEY TO IT AND WHAT'S LEFT? PUT IT TO OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE IT EITHER WAY.
IT'S NOT WASTED. BUT I THINK WE'RE WE'RE GETTING TO A CRITICAL POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, HURRICANE SEASON, I'M THINKING FIREFIGHTERS, YOU KNOW, A BAD FIRE BREAKS OUT, YOU KNOW, RESPONSE.
JUST THINK IF WE KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DON'T ADDRESS THESE FIRES, I DON'T THINK WE'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WE DID GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBYIST ALL OF US AND, YOU KNOW, AND GOT OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND OUR STATE SENATOR TO FIGHT FOR US.
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THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T SIGN OFF ON IT.THAT'S NOT OUR FAULT. JUST MAYBE HE HAD OTHER PRIORITIES.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T GET APPROVED, BUT.
NOW THE BALL IS BACK IN OUR COURT AND WE HAVE TO ACT.
AND WE GOT THE MONEY TO DO IT.
I JUST THINK WE SHOULD EITHER HOLD OFF.
IT'S OUR ESTIMATE ON THE FIRE STATION AND COME BACK AND THEN MAKE A DECISION.
THERE'S NO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT ON THIS MONEY.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU MADE THEM.
I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR MISS CHAIRMAN SHERMAN.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MEANS TO BUILD AN INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THAT? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE HAVE? THANKS FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THIS BUDGET CYCLE ACTUALLY ARE SOME SCENARIOS RELATED TO OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS. SO WE DON'T YET KNOW THE PRICE, BUT WE HAVE BALLPARKS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT IT COSTS OTHER CITIES TO BUILD SOME BASIC FIRE STATION MODELS.
AND SO JUST USING THE 3 TO $4 MILLION PLANNING NUMBER AS AN EXAMPLE.
AGAIN, JUST USING VERY ROUGH BALLPARK NUMBERS, UPWARDS OF $8 MILLION.
THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE FINANCING OPTIONS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE'D BE LOOKING AT, I BELIEVE, BASED ON THE TIMING OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET THESE STATIONS DONE, WE'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT SOME FINANCING MECHANISM WHEN THAT TIME COMES AND WE'RE READY TO DO THAT.
WE WILL ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST TOOLS ARE FOR US THAT ARE THE LEAST COSTS WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCING. AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
I BELIEVE WE'RE AT TODAY THAT THAT'S PROBABLY LIKELY TO BE THE BEST SCENARIO FOR US BECAUSE THE RATE AT WHICH OUR IMPACT FEES ARE BUILDING FOR FIRE FROM FIRE IMPACT FEES IS NOT FAST ENOUGH FOR US TO BUILD THE STATIONS THAT WE NEED NOW.
SO I BELIEVE WHAT WE'LL BE DOING WITH IMPACT FEES, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM, IS USING THOSE TO FUND NEW EQUIPMENTS, APPARATUS, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE NEW STATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I THINK WE WOULD GO, SIR.
THEY MAKE ME SHERMAN MY FAULT.
CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM AS IS RIGHT NOW IN COUNCIL, MAYBE THROUGH A.
WORKSHOP WHERE WE LOOKED AT FOCUS JUST SOLELY ON LOOKING AT FINANCING OPTION FOR.
THIS TO ME. I MEAN, I DO AGREE WITH YOU, GENTLEMEN.
AS FAR AS FIRE STATIONS, THOUGH, ABSOLUTELY A GREAT PRIORITY OF OURS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST LOOKED AT SOME OPTION IF IT MEANS FINANCING GOING THAT ROUTE WHERE WE CAN FIND MONEY, YOU KNOW, AT A DECENT RATE, THEY JUST DO THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THIS IS GOOD, GOOD TIME.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT THAT TRIGGER, LET'S LET'S DO IT NOW.
SO LISTEN, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO STRESS, EITHER WAY WE GO, GENTLEMEN, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, RIGHT? I WANT TO I WANT TO STRESS THAT WE WE NEED TO IDENTIFY AND WE HAVE THE CRITICAL NEED WE HAVE REGARDING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THIS CITY IS GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
AND WHAT'S CHALLENGING IS THAT.
THAT RESPONSE TIME IS CRITICAL.
OF COURSE, IT CAN COST THE LIFE.
A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE THAT IT PASSES 4 TO 1.
BROTHER, I. I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT EITHER WAY, WE WANTED US TO BE COLLECTIVE IN THIS.
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IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT.CAN I. CAN I JUST COMMENT ON MY VOTE? IT'S NOT THAT I'M.
I'M AGAINST THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
I'M VERY MUCH FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE.
I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT GOING IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE HAVE MONEY IN THE ROAD FUND.
OUR IMPACT FEEDS IS NOT ENOUGH.
AND NOW WE COULD SET ASIDE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR A FIRE STATION.
SO. RIGHT. WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT I BROUGHT THIS UP.
AT LEAST WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD.
MADAM SHERMAN, WE DO NEED TO START EXPLORING THOSE FINANCE OPPORTUNITIES, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE LEARNED FROM ALL OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS A CRITICAL.
STAGE THAT WE'RE IN REGARDING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
BUT I DO SUPPORT THE 1.3 MILLION GOING INTO THE THE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT REGARDING OUR FIRE STATIONS.
PRIEST. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THANK YOU. MAYOR STAFF IS REQUESTING TWO MEETINGS.
THE FIRST ONE IS A BUDGET WORKSHOP ON TUESDAY, JUNE 21ST, AT 6:00 PM.
TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CHARTER.
21ST, 23RD OR FLAG DAY, YOU SAID, RIGHT? IN 14. WELL, THE 21ST, I BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAVE KIND OF LOCKED DOWN.
I'M JUST DOING IT FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION.
I HAVE A SPEAKER CALLED DEPUTY MAYOR NATHAN WHITE.
NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
AS THE SAYING GOES, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE FOR IT PRETTY SIMPLY.
THE SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS IS OBVIOUSLY EXTREMELY VITAL.
I WANT TO SPEAK ESPECIALLY IN FAVOR OF THE WORKSHOP FOR THE BUDGET DISCUSSION OF THE.
BIT OF MID-BUDGET REVIEW FOR 2022 AND FOR 2023.
ONE OF THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR ONE OF THE OTHER MOST FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE APPARENTLY TO DO BOTH.
IT SAYS THAT WE NEED MORE CONVERSATION REGARDING OUR BUDGET AND DEFINITELY MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS WHAT FUNDS WE HAVE, WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING AND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE GOING.
SO. MADAM SMITH, YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE MEETING ON JUNE 21ST? YOU SAY THAT WE'VE GOT THAT MEETING ALREADY SCHEDULED.
WHAT MEETING DO WE HAVE? THAT.
BUDGET WORKSHOP? YES, THAT WAS SCHEDULED A WHILE AGO.
SO. I WOULDN'T MIND DOING TUESDAY THE 14TH.
AND ALSO. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? SUZY. THE 14 ALSO WORKED.
HERE. SAME HERE. ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GETTING A THUMBS UP.
THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M MISSING IS ALSO BEN FOSTER.
YEAH. I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN, BUT I'M PLANNING TO COME BACK ON THE 13TH.
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SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, TRAVEL WISE, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.BUT I SHOULD BE HERE ON THE 14TH.
SO, MA'AM, I THINK JUNE 14TH IS GOOD.
I THINK EVERYONE WILL BE HERE, SO.
RESOLUTION 2022 DOES 28 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RESTRICTING THE USAGE OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR ROAD AND UTILITY PURPOSES PROVIDED FOR THIS RESOLUTION RECORDED IN THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THIS ITEMS BEING BROUGHT FORTH.
THE CITY ACTUALLY PURCHASED ABOUT A 30 FOOT STRIP OF PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT TO USE IT AS A RIGHT OF WAY FOR EXPANSION OF GAINER DRIVE.
AND THE ISSUE THAT HAS COME FORTH IS HOLIDAY BUILDERS IS SEEKING TO BUY A PARCEL ALONG GAYNOR AND IT APPEARS BECAUSE OF THE WAY IN WHICH WE REPORTED IT AS JUST WE BOUGHT THE LAND, THAT THEIR PARCEL IS LAND LOT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT GAYNOR WROTE GAYNOR AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CITY'S PARCEL AND THE PARCEL THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO BUY.
SO OF COURSE, NO ONE WANTS TO BUY A LAND PARCEL.
AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST CODIFYING WHAT THE INTENT WAS.
WE NEVER INTENDED TO BUILD ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO BE ABLE TO WIDEN IT JUST RIGHT AWAY.
SO CERTAINLY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THEIR PROPERTY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS RECORDED SO THE INTENT IS OUT THERE AND THAT THEY CAN CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING PURCHASING.
WE SPEAK, OF COURSE. DEPUTY MAYOR.
THAT'S WHY I LOOKED RIGHT AT YOU, SIR.
YEAH, I GUESS NOT, BECAUSE THAT'S HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHY I WAS HERE.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, COUNSEL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2020 228.
HOLD ON. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
DEPUTY MAYOR, IF WE COULD GET THE INFORMATION OVER TO MR. BATTEN THAT HE'LL BE.
JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING.
YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF IT.
YOU KNOW, FILL OUT A SPEAKER CAR FOR ME.
I WILL FILL IN A SPEAKER CAR THEN AS SOON AS MY AGENDA.
BILL. BATMAN. 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET.
THIS ITEM NUMBER ONE MORE TIME, WHICH WE BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA PACKET.
CITIZENS WHO TRY TO REVIEW DON'T GET A REVIEW IT AND SO AND YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT GAINER DRIVE IS TO ME BEEN ALL ALONG THAT THIS ITEM WAS NOT EVEN IN MY AGENDA PACKET WHEN I DOWNLOADED IT WHEN IT BECAME AVAILABLE.
THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T TALK ON IT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET TO SEE ANYTHING.
I WAS JUST GOING TO MAYBE HAVE TO READDRESS IT LATER.
SO BUT I'M GOING TO YOU YOU HAVE THE PACKETS IN FRONT OF YOU.
I DON'T. SO I CAN'T SEE WHAT'S THERE.
BUT IT WAS JUST ONE MORE TIME WHERE WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA, BUT THE RESIDENTS DON'T GET TO KNOW WHAT IT IS TO TRY TRYING TO BE INFORMED OF ON.
JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF HERE.
IS THERE A RUSH ON THIS ITEM? CAN WE TABLE IT? YES, APPARENTLY.
WELL, YES. AS FAR AS THERE A RUSH ON THIS ITEM.
YES, THERE IS, APPARENTLY, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEWER PEOPLE HERE.
THIS CONFLICT WAS REALIZED, I THINK SOMETIME PERHAPS IN JANUARY, AND THE DEVELOPER WAS WAITING UPON STAFF TO FIGURE OUT A WAYS TO RESOLVE IT, WHETHER IT WAS RECORDING THAT WE INTENDED TO USE IT AS A RIGHT OF WAY PROVIDING EASEMENT AND SOMEHOW IT FELL AND THEY KEPT CONTINUING IT UNTIL ARE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE AS FAR AS PUSHING OFF THEIR SALE THAT THEY HAVE NO ADDITIONAL WAYS TO PUT OFF THEIR SALE.
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OF PALM BAY, REALIZED THAT WE HAD IN-HOUSE COUNSEL AND CONTACTED ME TO LET ME KNOW THIS IS WHAT THE ISSUE ARE, REACHED OUT AND I WORKED WITH STAFF.ESSENTIALLY, ALL WE'RE SAYING IS WE GOT WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY FOR ONE REASON TO WIDEN GAYNER.
WE HAVE NO INTENT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING ON IT.
IT'S JUST TO WIDEN GAYNER BECAUSE.
BECAUSE WE BOUGHT IT TO WIDEN.
GAGNER IT IS IN BETWEEN THE ACTUAL EXISTING ROAD AND THIS OTHER PARCEL.
[COUNCIL REPORTS]
OF COURSE, NOBODY WANTS TO BUY A PROPERTY THAT APPEARS TO BE LANDLOCKED AND THEY MAY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHAT WE INTENDED IT FOR.AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ELSE DIFFERENTLY.
BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET TITLE INSURANCE BASED UPON OUR ASSURANCES THAT AREN'T RECORDED.
THAT WAS THE ALWAYS THE INTENT.
IT'S JUST NOT RECORDED AS SUCH.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE USING IT FOR IS RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT SHOWS THAT THEY CAN GET FROM THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH GAYNOR.
AND OUR PROPERTY ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IMPEDES THEIR ACCESS.
THAT'S ALL THE RESOLUTION SAYS.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS WAS THE INTENT AS FAR AS WHY THE CITY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR FEEDBACK WITH THAT.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'RE AN ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND I GUESS I'LL KICK THIS OFF, BUT I'LL I MAY HAVE FRED COME.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, BACK IN OCTOBER, I BOUGHT UP THIS THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO TO HONOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR VETERANS AND AND EVEN FAMILY SURVIVORS.
RIGHT. AND THE CONCEPT IS OR THAT WE RAISE THE FLAG IN THEIR HONOR.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE PRESENTED TO PREDOMINANTLY VETERANS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND PART OF THAT WILL EACH GET THREE FLAGS.
WE COULD ASSIGN THIS FIRST YEAR.
THREE, WE COULD HONOR THREE VETERANS EACH.
AND THE GOAL IS THAT THEY'LL GET A CERTIFICATE, THIS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
THIS FLAG WAS FLOWN IN HONOR OF YOUR SERVICE OR YOU GIVE A CERTIFICATE AND WE PRESENT THEM WITH WITH A FLAG THAT WAS FLOWN OVER CITY HALL. IT'S A CONCEPT THAT THE CAPITAL USES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND EVERYONE AT THAT POINT ON THIS COUNCIL DURING THAT THAT UNDER MY REPORTS, EVERYBODY GAVE THE THUMBS UP.
WE WE DO HAVE AN UPDATE BECAUSE AND I KNOW MY FELLOW VETERAN MISSED THE FORCE OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER WOULD WOULD RECOGNIZE WHEN WHEN WE FOLD FLAGS THE PREFERRED FLAG TO FOLD IS A COTTON.
BECAUSE WE CAN WE CAN PUT IT IN THE SYSTEM.
IT'S EASY TO FOLD WHENEVER YOU GO TO A A FUNERAL SERVICE, THEY'RE COTTON FLAGS.
COTTON FLAGS ARE HARD TO COME BY IN 2022, ESPECIALLY MADE IN THE USA.
BUT FRED, IS IT OKAY, MADAM SHERMAN, IF I CALL FRED UP? THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO I KNOW FRED'S BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK, FRED.
AND WE'VE AND WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THREE OR FOUR OF THE MAJOR COMPANIES THAT SUPPLY THEM.
SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF FIVE OF THEM FROM CARROT TOP.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER WILL WILL HAVE TO GET THE NYLON ONES.
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YEAR. COUNCILMAN.IS IT PATRIOT? THE PATRIOT. THE CAPITOL.
USE IT. YEAH, THE MATTER OF FACT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GOING WITH, MAYOR MEDINA BECAUSE I HAD ONE FLOWN IN MY HONOR OVER THE US CAPITOL TWICE AND I CHAIRED THESE FLAGS, BUT.
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT A NYLON.
I JUST. A FLAG IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, ESPECIALLY.
EXCUSE ME. THE US FLAG IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
SO I BET THAT'D BE UNSET TO OK UNSET IS UNSATISFACTORY USING MILITARY TERMS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOTHING LIKE HAVING.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING THIS TO VETERANS.
IT'S JUST AND IT MEANS VERY AS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR TO YOU FOR IT.
LIVES ARE PASSED DOWN THROUGH GENERATION.
NOT EVERYBODY COULD GO TO THE CAPITOL OR MEET THEIR CONGRESSMEN.
WELL, YOU COULD PUT IT ON. YOU COULD PUT YOUR REQUEST ON.
BUT IT'S A WAIT, RIGHT? IT'S A LONG WAIT TO GET THAT FLAG BACK FROM THE US CAPITOL.
ESPECIALLY WITH COVID, ESPECIALLY WITH COVID.
AND THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF ISSUES AT THE CAPITOL RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S NOT WITH JUST ONE COMPANY, IT'S WITH ALL OF THEM.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT'S PASSED ON TO US.
WELL, THE ONLY THING IS POLYESTER, UNFORTUNATELY.
SO I DON'T WANT TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER.
AND I KIND OF LIKE EACH GET ONE AND, YOU KNOW, TO THAT EFFORT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT HONOR FLIGHT, BUT THEY MEET AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
AND THEY GO THEY LEAVE IT TO ZERO, 200 HOURS.
THEY MEET AT WICKHAM PARK, THEY CATCH A FLIGHT POLICE ESCORT, AND THEY HAVE A DAY AT WASHINGTON, DC.
SO THEY'RE THEY'RE ACTUALLY TWO PALM BAYERS THAT ARE GOING OR WIN ON THIS LAST FLIGHT.
BUT FROM TIME TO TIME, PALM BUYERS GO ON THAT FLIGHT.
SO I'M THINKING WE CAN ALL HONOR THEM.
RIGHT. AND I DID SHARE THIS WITH MADAM SHERMAN.
SOMETIMES I'M THERE IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY.
BUT TO HONOR THE VETERANS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO JURISDICTION.
RIGHT. RIGHT. BUT CERTAINLY THIS WOULD BE FOR OUR PALM BOATERS.
I DON'T MIND THE INITIAL PROGRAM OF THIS.
COTTON FLAG AND THEN THE OTHERS THAT WERE ASSIGNED THE OTHER TO NYLON.
IDEALLY, WE COULD GET THOSE FOR JULY THE FOURTH CELEBRATION AND WE COULD EACH HONOR A VETERAN FOR THEIR SERVICE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, BUT WITHOUT THIS PROGRAM, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING THIS WAY.
IT IS. I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION OR.
WELL, DO I HAVE TO PASS THE GAVEL? I'LL PASS THE GAVEL.
UM. I MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE $2,000 FROM GENERAL FUND CONDITIONED CONTINGENCY TO RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES TO COVER THE COST OF THE FLAG PROGRAM.
SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION.
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I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR MEDINA TAKEN BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE THIS IDEA.
AND ALSO, IT REMINDS ME OF THE KEY TO THE CITY.
KENNY AND I WENT TO BASE ON HIGH SCHOOL.
AND HE LIVES IN VIERA TODAY? YES. AND HE RECEIVED THE KEY TO SAY TO PALM BAY.
AND I REMEMBER ASKING HIM ABOUT IT AND HE SAYS, IT'S THE COOLEST THING ON EARTH.
I CARRY IT EVERYWHERE WITH ME.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO THAT ENOUGH.
SO THIS IS JUST THIS IS SOMETHING TO DO THAT WITH.
AND I WAS WONDERING AND THIS ISN'T A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME AT ALL.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE CAN EXPAND IT TO ANYBODY AND NOT JUST FIRST RESPONDERS OR MILITARY.
PART OF THE PROGRAM, AS YOU SEE, IT'S NOT TO ANYONE.
IT'S TIME TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS.
BUT THE WHOLE GOAL WAS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WEREN'T DOING.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STARTING.
OKAY. WELL, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL? DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ALREADY. WELL, WE ALREADY GOT TWO.
OKAY, SO WE'RE THROWING YOUR SECOND.
WE ALREADY HAD HIM MOST OF THE SECOND SERVE.
I'M SORRY. NO PROPER PROTOCOL.
HE'S GOT TO COME. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WILL DO SOME MORE RESEARCH.
AND AND IF WE CAN FIND MORE WILL, WE'LL GET MORE COTTON ONES.
BUT AS OF TODAY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES WE'VE REACHED OUT TO.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE THOSE EFFORTS AND WE'LL GET AS MANY OF THEM AS WE CAN.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO THAT.
I'M SORRY. OH, PRAISE THE LORD.
WE'RE ON. WE'RE ON COUNCIL REPORTS.
SO WE ALREADY DISCUSSED OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE.
I DID WANT TO GIVE SOME ACCOLADES.
THERE WAS A FEW FIRES THIS PAST WEEK.
I THINK ONE HAD HAPPENED BEHIND MAT IN PARK.
THE OTHER ONE ACTUALLY HAPPENED WHEN I WAS OUT SURVEYING SOME PROPERTY MAYOR OVER AT THE COMPOUND AGAIN, I WAS SURVEYING SOME PROPERTY AND I SAW I SAW A COUPLE OF SPOT FIRES HAPPENING AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK CHECK OUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, DO THEIR JOB AND EXTINGUISH THOSE FIRES.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE THEM ACCOLADES ON THAT AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON JOB WELL DONE.
MY APOLOGIES. AND WE'RE ABOUT 30% DONE.
SO IN OUR NEXT AREA IS GOING TO BE THE CONNECTOR ROAD AREA.
I LEARNED THAT. NO OTHER REPORTS, SIR.
MAYOR. I'LL BE TRYING TO BE AS BRIEF AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
NUMBER ONE, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE NANCY.
I'M A CHAMBER TO THE DIRECTOR AND PRESIDENT OF OUR CHAMBER, A JOB WELL DONE.
AND HER AND HER TEAM, WHAT A GREAT EVENT.
THEY PUT TOGETHER THE MAYOR'S BREAKFASTS OVER IN COCOA AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
YOU KNOW, KUDOS TO MAYOR MEDINA.
I REPRESENT PALM BAY VERY WELL.
MANY WHO WAS AND WHAT IT WAS WAS GREAT, WAS GREAT.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE HER FOR THAT.
NUMBER TWO, A GENTLEMAN WAS HERE EARLIER.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET HIM.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE FOOD TRUCK ASSOCIATION, HE SHARED WITH ME THAT.
THE DIFFICULTY THAT HE HAS IS PROBABLY JUST LOVE.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THIS DEPARTMENT.
THOUGH HE HAS A REAL HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY PALM BAY NOT FRIENDLY TO FOOD TRUCKS.
MOST, IF NOT ALL, MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SOME SORT OF MONTHLY FOOD FOOD TRUCKS FESTIVAL THAT PALM BAY DOES NOT WELCOME THAT.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW, WAS THAT FACT OR NOT? I KNOW WE HAVE THE FIRST FRIDAY.
THAT EVENT USED TO BE VERY WELCOME, WELCOMING TO FOOD TRUCKS AND AND SO ON.
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BUT WHAT HE LED ME TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THOSE MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, MELBOURNE MAYOR OFFRE, IS A BIG PROPONENT, GREAT SUPPORTER OF THAT ACTIVITY WHERE THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH WITH THE CITY, KIND OF COVER THEIR FEES AND WORLDLY PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD TIME, PARK AND RECREATION, PROVIDE MUSIC, CREATE A NICE AMBIANCE WHERE FAMILY COMES OUT, ENJOY DIFFERENT FLAVOR OF FOOD, TRUCKS AND SO ON. SO IT WOULD LOVE TO SEE PALM BAY BE A LOT MORE FRIENDLY IN THAT REGARD.IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ASKING STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT IDEA.
YEAH. IF I CAN HAVE THE CONSENSUS FOR STUFF TO LOOK INTO THAT, MAYBE REACH OUT TO HIM TO SEE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S IT'S A CITY FACILITY.
TO WHERE MAYBE THE CITY HALL PARKING LOT AND SO ON ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT IF WE CAN MAYBE MAYBE A PARK OR SOMEWHERE WHERE IT COULD BE A CONTINUOUS EVENT WHERE A MONTHLY BASIS.
I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. AND I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON JUST GESTURED.
YEAH. SO Y'ALL GET ME HUNGRY, BUT.
ALL RIGHT, SO I GOT COUNCILMAN LAST ONE.
MAYBE, IF I MAY, I'LL TRY TO BE AS JUST A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER THUMBS UP ON THAT FOOD TRUCK.
YOU KNOW, OUR NATION IS MOURNING OVER.
WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GUN VIOLENCE EARLIER.
UM. THAT THAT LAST TRAGEDY IN IN TEXAS AND.
I'VE NEVER GET GOT SO EMOTIONAL IN MY LIFE.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE SECOND TIME AFTER I LOST MY DAD IN 2027 AND I GOT REALLY SICK.
AND IT WAS A MIX OF OF EMOTION.
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THESE FAMILIES.
OUR NATION REALLY WAS A BIG, BIG BLOW.
JUST IMAGINE AS A PARENT, I'M A PARENT OF THREE KIDS AND IT REALLY HURT ME TO THE CORE.
WE, A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, WHAT MAKE MATTER WORSE IS THAT US AS ADULTS? NOT WILLING TO DO MUCH ABOUT IT.
IT IS EVIL. HE TALKED ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS.
WE GOT ON WE GOT A LOT OF SICK INDIVIDUALS.
BUT. SO PART OF THE OTHER PROBLEM WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.
NO. IS ARM FULL WEAPONS OR IN THE WRONG HAND? PEOPLE'S HAND. THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN WHAT ARE WILLING TO DO.
WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO DO ABOUT IT AS ADULT AS GOVERNMENT BODY? I KNOW IT'S MORE OF A SOMEWHAT HIGHER THAN OUR PAY GRADE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, BUT BUT I THINK WE WE AS A COMMUNITY I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE SENSITIVE.
I WAS BEING MORE SENSITIVE TOWARDS THIS ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GO MANY THROUGH TO A RESOLUTION SENDING IT UP.
I WOULD WILLING TO ASK THAT MY COUNCIL SUPPORT ME INTO THAT.
MAYBE SEND IT TO THE HIGHER UP PEOPLE THAT CAN MAKE A DECISION TO ACT UPON THAT.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.
BUT AS ADULT, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN UVALDE, UVALDE, TEXAS, COULD COULD HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO AS A COMMUNITY, I THINK WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO IT.
IT JUST REALLY HIT ME TO THE CORE.
I THINK AS ADULT WE PEOPLE IN POSITION THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION AND YOU DON'T SEE MUCH WILLINGNESS.
THE ONE THING THAT COULD REDUCE MENTAL ILLNESS IS LESS SHOOTING.
BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S THAT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUE AND.
AS MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. FOSTER. OR COUNCILMAN FOR.THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCILMAN FELIX THAT SUBJECT.
I'M GOING TO. SAY SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE SHOCKING TO MOST PEOPLE.
IT WAS BASED OFF MY EXPERIENCE.
MY EXPERIENCE GROWING UP IN NEW YORK CITY IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.
ACTUALLY AS AN AUXILIARY NEW YORK CITY POLICE OFFICER IN THE 73RD PRECINCT IN BROOKLYN.
YOU'RE WALKING THE STREETS IN THE SUBWAY AND A POLICE NEW YORK CITY POLICE UNIFORM.
ALL YOU GOT IS A RADIO AND A NIGHTSTICK.
AND WHY ARE YOU WALKING THE BEAT? BECAUSE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT CRIME AND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CRIME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS BASED OFF MY EXPERIENCE AS FIVE YEARS AS A POLICE OFFICER WORKING NARCOTICS.
THIS IS BASED OFF MY EXPERIENCE.
WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS 20 YEARS AS A U.S.
MARSHAL. GOING AFTER THE MOST VIOLENT INDIVIDUALS.
I MEAN, WHEN I SAY VIOLENT, I WOULDN'T EVEN LET MY DOG.
AND I DON'T HAVE A DOG, BUT I WOULDN'T LET MY DOG GO NEAR THIS PERSON.
I'M SAD TO GIVE YOU THE BAD NEWS.
IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP. WE HAVE.
WE HAVE VERY EVIL INDIVIDUALS IN THIS WORLD FOR SOME REASON.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE GOT INDIVIDUALS.
AND MOST OF THEM ARE NOT IN BEHIND BARS.
MOST OF THEM ARE WALKING THE STREETS.
POOR NEIGHBORHOOD OR RICH NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU HAVE VIOLENT PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND.
I LOOK AT OTHER COUNTRIES, WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR GUN LAWS.
THAT NEVER HAPPENED IN AMERICA BECAUSE WE HAVE A WE HAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
AND I'M NOT FOR TAKING AWAY ANYBODY.
I DON'T HAVE A GUN ON ME NOW, BUT I HAVE A FIREARM.
I'VE BEEN CARRYING A FIREARM SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD.
YOU SAY, AGAIN, I HATE CARRYING A FIREARM BECAUSE IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT ONCE YOU HAVE IT, I'M LICENSED TO CARRY ONE BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
BUT I HATE I HATE CARRYING IT.
ONLY ONE IN MY HOUSE BECAUSE I KNOW I WILL USE IT.
SO MY POINT IS IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP.
SO WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? MY OPINION IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE.
WE HAVE A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE OR SAY SOMETHING CRAZY.
I SIT THIS LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE IS GOING TO HURT SOMEONE OR HAVE A BAD DAY AT WORK AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CARRY MULTIPLE GUNS AND THEY HAVE A CONTACT YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LET THEM GO OUT AND TALK TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CRAZY, LIKE I SAID, THESE VIOLENT PEOPLE.
NOT THAT MANY OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE WALKING AROUND.
THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE A GUN.
I'VE BEEN SHOT AT THREE TIMES.
AND THE PERSON THAT SHOT AT ME, THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD SHOT AT ME, THEY KNEW I HAD A GUN.
NOW, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I WASN'T INJURED.
AS CLOSE AS I'M SITTING TO A MIRROR, A PERSON SHOT AT ME.
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SO THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE A GUN.THEY DON'T CARE WHAT GUN YOU HAVE.
THEY'RE GOING TO. THEIR INTENT IS TO HURT YOU.
SO IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING, CALL THE POLICE.
IF IT'S YOUR FAMILY MEMBER, CALL THE POLICE.
CALL THEM AGAIN. ON THE THIRD TIME.
REMEMBER THAT TERM? POSTAL PEOPLE GOING POSTAL.
IT WAS NOT GOING TO THE POST OFFICE.
THE POST OFFICE USED TO BE A PLACE OF WORK VIOLENCE.
RIGHT. SO HERE'S WHAT MY THOUGHTS AND I GET FRUSTRATED.
CHILDREN IN THE CLASSROOM SHOULDN'T BE DEAD.
I'M GLAD. THE LAST BUDGET WE PASSED.
REFUNDED TO RESOURCE OFFICERS.
WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THAT, I'M GLAD WE PASSED THAT MAN.
WE FUNDED TWO RESOURCE OFFICERS.
POLICE OFFICERS AT PINEAPPLE COVE.
I SAID, MAN, I'M GLAD CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE RESOURCE OFFICER THAT PINEAPPLE CALL.
AND THEY GOT TO OFFICES EVERY DAY.
TRAINING. THE SHERMAN WIN THE LAST TIME WE WE HAD WON.
AND WHEN CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IF WE DID? CITYWIDE, ALL STAFF WERE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE TRAINING BACK IN 2019.
WELL CORRECTLY. CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN WORK THROUGH TO HAVE DONE AGAIN.
CERTAINLY WE'VE HAD NEW STAFF MEMBERS SINCE THAT TIME AND.
IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING TO DO A REFRESHER ON, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.
I WANT CONSENSUS FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN TULSA OR WITH ANY ACTIVE SHOOTING SCENARIOS. TRAINING IS CRITICAL.
SHERMAN SEE IF WE COULD OFFER THAT TO BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
TULSA, OKLAHOMA. WE ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER CITY.
SO CAN WE DO ACTING? ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES AND.
OFFER THIS OUT TO OUR BUSINESS AND OUR CITY.
HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFER THAT TRAINING FREE OF CHARGE? THANK YOU. I'M JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HOW THIN OUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT.
LIKE, YES, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH INSIDE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE THEIR OWN, WE OPERATE WITHIN OUR REALM AND THEY OPERATE WITHIN THEIRS.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT OVEREXTENDING OUR OFFICERS ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE.
THIS IS YOU'RE UNDER YOUR REPORTS.
AND I HEAR YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR, BUT.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
YOU KNOW, PALM BAY A HOSPITAL RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHOOTING GOING THERE AND THEY'RE NOT PREPARED? WE'RE GOING TO BE OVEREXTENDED.
TAKE HALF THE SHIFT TO SHOW UP THERE.
I'M SAYING BIG, BIG, LARGE PLACE, NOT A SMALL OFFICE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LARGE BUSINESS IN THE WE COULD MAKE A CRITERIA OR THEY COULD PAY FOR IT.
THEY HAVE THE MONEY. THEY COULD PAY FOR THE OFFICE, THE TIME AND THE TRAINING.
BUT I WANT TO PROTECT OUR CITY.
I WANT TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.
WHEN A SHOOTER COMES BECAUSE IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
THEY HAD AN OFFICER ON SCENE OF RETIRED COP WHO DIED.
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THAT THAT SHOOTER DIDN'T CARE.HE HAD A GUN. HE SHOT THE SUSPECT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
SO IT SEEMED LIKE THEY LIKE LARGE GATHERING.
WELL, I WANT TO PROTECT THE CITIZEN.
I WANT TO ACT AS STUDENT TRAINING AVAILABLE.
IF THEY IF THE BUSINESS WANTED TO TAKE PART, IT'S UP TO THEM.
BUT AT LEAST THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO AND HOW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
IF A SHOOTER SHOWS UP IN THEIR WORKPLACE.
BUT I'M I'M IN WHOLEHEARTED AGREEMENT.
PERHAPS WE CAN GET THERE BY PIECEMEAL DOING THIS.
RIGHT. LET'S START WITH WITH OUR CITY.
AS YOU KNOW, TRAINING IS BUILDS IN THAT REACTION TIME.
IT BUILDS TRAINING IS CRITICAL.
TOO MUCH TIME HAS ELAPSED WITH THAT.
LET'S START THERE AND I'M IN AGREEMENT.
MAYBE WE COULD OFFER IT TO THE HOSPITAL NEXT.
BUT CERTAINLY LET'S NOT GO BEYOND THAT SCOPE RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT? AND I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS AS TO TO START WITH OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD OFFER THAT TO THE HOSPITAL.
BUT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON'S CONCERNS ARE ALSO VALID.
WE HAVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THAT ARE CHALLENGED ENOUGH PROTECTING OUR CITY.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO TAX THEM ON A HIGHER RATE.
BUT CERTAINLY LET'S START TO CRAWL BEFORE WE WALK.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I'M FOR DOING THE CITYWIDE ACTIVE DUTY TRAINING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE LET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SEE IF THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT AT ALL? CORRECT. SO LET'S SEE.
LET'S THROW IT AT THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.
AND I'M GOING TO LET MADAM SHERMAN WEIGH IN AND THEN COUNCILMAN.
YEAH. I JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE CONVERSATION.
SO DOING THE INTERNAL TRAINING FOR EMPLOYEES, VERY EASY, EASY TO SET UP AND GET IT DONE.
SO WE'LL ACCOMPLISH THAT RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR BUSINESSES, WITH THE HOSPITAL, TOO.
AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE THINGS WITH THE HOSPITAL BEFORE, TOO, SO WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
WE MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW AND I'LL FIND OUT.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
THEY NEED, BUT ALSO TO GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THINGS WE'VE ALREADY DONE, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE WE'VE DONE ACTIVELY IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS.IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES.
SO PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
THAT GOOD COUNCILMAN FELIX? MAYOR, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR FOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S IDEA.
THAT'S IF THEY NEED IT COULD MEAN JUST ONE OFFICER GO OUT AND AND DO SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION.
I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT VALUE ADDED.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT.
THANK YOU, SIR. YOU'RE GOOD, DEPUTY MAYOR.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? HANDSOME. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, WAKE UP THIS SATURDAY.
DANCING WITH THE STARS MAYOR ROB MEDINA COMING TO YOU LIVE AT 530, 530.
HE'S GOING TO DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY AND HE'S GOING TO WORK THE ROOM AND HE'S BRINGING THE FUNK.
SO I GOT TO BE A HYPE MAN, MAYOR.
PALM BAY IS GOING TO SHOW YOU WE GOT THE GREATEST DANCER ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
THAT'S ALL I GOT, MAYOR. I'M DONE.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I APPRECIATE THAT.
NOW. NOW THAT THAT'S A THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OF EXPECTATION TO LIVE FOR.
RIGHT. BUT LISTEN, I WANT TO I WANT TO END ON SUCH A GREAT NOTE RIGHT THERE.
SO THERE'S TWO THINGS I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
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THE FIRST IS I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL.BUT BELIEVING IN THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES THAT ORGANIZE THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, YOU RECOGNIZE THE VALUE THAT THEY PROVIDE OUR CITIZENS. WELL, YOU KNOW THAT COMMENT BIG BROTHER'S WATCHING.
SO THE TDCJ CAN ACTUALLY WATCH AND TRACK WHERE YOU'RE AT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY RESIDENTS CAME OUT TO THIS LAST FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA? DECEMBER 18TH, 2021.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THAT THAT DETAIL.
15,688 PEOPLE GATHERED HERE IN PALM BAY.
SHARING THE JOY AND THE SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS.
YOU WERE PROVIDING AN OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THE INTANGIBLE FACTOR THAT COSTS CANNOT EVEN EQUATE IS THE LIVES AND THE CHILDREN THAT WERE TOUCHED WITH THOSE 15,688 OF THOSE 16,688 PEOPLE.
1222 PEOPLE CAME FROM OUTSIDE OF THIS COUNTY TO COME TO THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.
AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE LIVES BY PARKS AND REC.
AND IN PREPARATION OF THE 14TH ANNUAL, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THEN I WANTED TO END WITH THIS.
I WANTED TO THANK SPECIFICALLY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO AND COUNCILMAN FELIX FOR GOING TO THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE OF ONE OF OUR VERY OWN FORMER COUNCILMAN, PAT WOODARD.
PAT WOODARD SERVED ON THIS COUNCIL AND AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN FELIX HURD, BUT COUNCILMAN WOODARD SERVED ON THIS COUNCIL FOR NINE YEARS.
BACK IN THOSE DAYS, THERE WERE THREE YEAR TERMS. BUT HERE'S WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT HIS TERM.
AND THEN HE RAN TWICE UNOPPOSED.
NO ONE OPPOSED THEM BECAUSE HE WAS SUCH AN OUTSTANDING COUNCILMAN.
AND IN THAT I KNOW COUNCILMAN FELIX AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO HEARD A UNITED STATES CONGRESSMAN SPEAK ON WHEN HE WAS IN IN THE FLORIDA HOUSE AND THE FLORIDA SENATE ABOUT THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF COUNCILMAN WATER IN AS MUCH AS OUR STORMWATER AND STORMWATER PLANS.
DO YOU RECALL THAT CONVERSATION? GENTLEMEN, I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL SUPPORT AND GOING TO HIS CELEBRATION OF LIFE.
AND THEN SECONDLY, I'M I KNOW THAT EVERY TIME HE CAME TO THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER, HE WENT BY A PARK.
BECAUSE HE LIVED IN SEVEN GABLES IN THAT AREA BY CUTTING IT.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR PARKS AND REC TO DO IS TO SEE IF WE COULD DEDICATE THAT OAKWOOD PARK, THAT IN HIS HONOR EVERY TIME HE CAME TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD JUST DEDICATE, MAYBE MAKE A MEMORIAL OUT THERE FOR HIM, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED TO COUNCILMAN PAT WATER WOODARD OR PERHAPS WE COULD I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY EXACTLY OF THAT OAKWOOD PARK, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF OF AN OUTSTANDING COUNCILMAN. AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS UNDER YOUR, YOU KNOW, INTO MY REPORTS TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
I'VE GOT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON WITH A THUMBS UP.
UH, YES, MAYOR. I JUST HAVE TO CHECK.
WE HAVE AN OLD RESOLUTION FROM 2003.
THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL ADOPTED THE TALKS ABOUT CHANGES TO PARKS, AND THOSE REQUESTS GOING TO WENT TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. BUT I ASSUME THE COUNCIL COULD JUST I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD MAKE A DECISION OR IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT PROCESS BASED ON HOW IT WAS APPROVED.
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE PARK NAMING POLICY IS TO GO THROUGH THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.
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THAT'S FINE WITH ME.THAT'S FINE. BUT WE HAVE CONSENSUS HERE AND THAT THAT ENDS MY REPORT.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HONOR US WHEN WE GET OLDER.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE ON ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS.
I DIDN'T EVEN GET A CHUCKLE FROM THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT AGE OR EVEN.
MY, UH, MY ABILITY TO TAKE IN MULTIPLE THINGS AT ONE TIME IS WANING, AND I HAVE NO REPORTS, SO.
THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD COMEBACK, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
I DID WANT TO BRING FORTH AS FAR AS THE OPIATE LITIGATION I KNOW COUNSEL HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY TO EXPEDITE MATTERS ON OUR END COUNCIL DID APPROVE FOR THE CITY TO BE PART OF THE GLOBAL SETTLEMENT AS FAR AS THAT HAS BEEN THAT.
AND THEN THERE WAS A SEPARATE MEMO, YOU THAT THE COUNCIL DID AUTHORIZE AS FAR AS THE ALLOCATION OF PAYMENTS WITH THE COUNTY.
AUTHORIZATIONS AS FAR AS GENERICALLY OF THE MANY PLAINTIFFS THAT COME FORTH BUT AS.
THE SETTLEMENTS ARE MADE LIKE WALGREENS OR OTHERS.
AND THEN ALSO AS PART OF THE MOU, AS FAR AS THE GLOBAL SETTLEMENT AND EVEN WITH THE STATE ALLOCATION, THERE WAS THE REDUCTION IN THE ATTORNEYS FEES AS FAR AS THE GLOBAL SETTLEMENT AND THERE WAS WITH THE STATE ALLOCATION PROVISIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ATTORNEY'S FEES TO BE PAID FROM THE ALLOCATION. WHAT I MENTION THIS IS BECAUSE THESE CREATE NEW DOCUMENTS THAT MUST BE PROCESSED AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENTS THAT I WOULD ASK, SO LONG AS THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GLOBAL SETTLEMENT THAT COUNSEL HAS AUTHORIZED, THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THOSE DOCUMENTS.
AND AS FAR AS THE ATTORNEY'S FEES, IN ORDER FOR US TO NOT HAVE TO PAY OUR ATTORNEY'S FEES AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ATTORNEY'S FEES PAID OUT OF THIS POT OF MONEY THAT THE STATE AND THE COUNTY HAS IN THIS PROCESS.
THERE ARE ALSO VERIFICATION DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO BE SIGNED BY ME, BY THE ATTORNEYS SAYING, YES, THIS IS WHAT OUR ATTORNEY THESE ARE OUR VIEW THAT THESE FEES ARE FAIR AND REASONABLE SO THAT THEY CAN THEN SUBMIT IT.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF OUR CUP, BUT THAT IT WILL BE PAID FOR THESE FUNDS.
SO I AM ASKING THAT COUNSEL WOULD GRANT THE AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THESE AGREEMENTS AS LONG AS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AUTHORIZATION THAT COUNCIL HAD AS FAR AS THE GLOBAL SETTLEMENT, AND THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO SIGN THESE VERIFICATIONS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET OUR FEES PAID FOR OUT OF THE FUND, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZED WHEN THEY ACTUALLY ENTERED INTO THE MOU WITH THE COUNTY.
SO DO YOU NEED THAT IN A MOTION? SO LONG AS I HAVE ESSENTIALLY THE CONSENSUS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GOING FORTH THAT WE CAN WE ARE ALWAYS MAKING WE HAVE WHENEVER WE GET THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SIGN OFF AND KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING.
I WOULD HATE FOR THAT THE CITY FIND OUT THAT THE MAYOR IS ASKING ME WHY IS IT THAT I'VE GOT ATTORNEY'S FEES COMING OUT OF HERE AND WHEN YOU SIT THERE WAS THIS FUND AND IT WAS LIKE, WELL, I COULDN'T GET IT DONE IN TIME ENOUGH FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO WE WERE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THAT IS THAT ALL? YES. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. SO WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENT.
COME ON IN. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLAG.
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1976. YES.ANYWAY. WHAT THE NAVY DID WAS WE HAVE A UNION, JACK, WHEN YOU'RE IN PORT WHICH.
WHICH FLEW AT THE FRONT OF THE SHIP.
AND OF COURSE, YOU HAD THE STARS, THE STRIPE ON THE REAR.
WHEN THAT PARTICULAR TIME, WHEN WE FLEW FOR A YEAR WAS THE SNAKE.
AND I'M AND I'M JUST THINKING, WOW, I'VE HAD THAT FOR 46 YEARS.
AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING THAT UP.
YOU CAN EVEN HAVE A JACK STANDING MOUNTED ON THE WALL DURING THE 4TH OF JULY.
JUST SOMETHING I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
BILL BURTON. WELL, THERE WERE SEVERAL BECAUSE RANDALL OLSZEWSKI IS BACK THERE, TOO.
DO YOU WANT TO COME CLOSER, SIR? GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE MOTOR HOME PARKING.
THEY BROUGHT UP TO THREE FORKS PRESERVE.
I AGREE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY RUNDOWN.
AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE THE AREA, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PHONE CALL TO THE COUNTY.
BUT BUT IT'S IT'S IN IT NEEDS SOME SEVERE MAINTENANCE.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO START USE THAT AS PART OF OUR ADVERTISEMENT, WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY SHOW UP, THEY GO, WELL, I THINK I PICKED THE WRONG TOWN AND THE BOAT RAMPS ARE OVERGROWN, THE GRASS IS OVERGROWN AND AND STUFF LIKE THIS.
A LOT OF THESE PLACES DON'T HAVE PARKING FOR THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN ANY OF THEIRS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ANY OF THAT AT THE CAMPGROUND.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR BOATS IN ORDER TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE WATER TO GO FISHING.
NEXT ITEM WAS LOOKING AT THE FIRE STATIONS, THE COST OF FIRE STATIONS, WHICH I AGREE WE NEED THEM.
BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT $4 MILLION FOR THE FIRE STATION, THAT'S THE SMALL ONE TIME PAY.
WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT AND WE'RE WORRYING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE 4 MILLION.
WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STAFFING OF THAT, PLUS ALL THE HARDWARE, PLUS EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE'RE SAYING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE? I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT IT OUT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE PRICE, THE PURCHASE PRICE OF THAT FIRE STATION.
WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT OBJECTIVE.
IS SINCE GUNS CAME UP AGAIN IN CONVERSATION AT A GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT GATHERING.
BILL BATTEN IS GOING TO BRING IT BACK.
I WILL STAND UP FOR THE BILL OF RIGHTS 100%.
WELL, THIS IS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
WHEN SOMEBODY STARTS TALKING ABOUT IT, ALL IT TAKES IS PLANNING THAT LITTLE SEED.
THEN IT STARTS. THEN IT'S AN ORDINANCE AND IT'S A REQUEST.
FREEDOM IS NOT LOST AT GUNPOINT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
IT'S LOST THROUGH LITTLE NIBBLES AND BITES OF STUFF.
AND I WON'T I WON'T BE ONE THAT DOESN'T THAT WILL SIT DOWN AND NOT SAY SOMETHING.
AS I SAID IN MY PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.
I, I DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF AMERICA DISARMED.
I DO WANT TO BE A TEAM PLAYER.
YOU. TO STEP FORWARD SAYING GOOD NIGHT.
COUNCIL STAFF, THIS ALPHA GUARD FROM 1680 MAIN STREET.
WELL, I WAS OVERHEARING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FIRE STATION.
THE FIRE STATION IS VERY IMPORTANT WITH OUR CITY.
YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE IS SO IMPORTANT.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, LIKE A COMMERCIAL ENTITY, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LOOK AT IS INFRASTRUCTURE OF A CITY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE INVESTED IN.
TWO OF THESE AMAZON BUILDING WENT UP IN BREVARD COUNTY, ONE IN MELBOURNE AND ONE IN COCOA.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY ONE DID EVEN SIT HERE IN PALM BAY IS BECAUSE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
FIRE AND POLICE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A LOT OF TRUCK.
AND TO PUT UP ONE OF THESE WAREHOUSE IN A CITY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF CHALK.
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NO, WE GOT ONE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE LATE, SO WE HAVE TO INVEST IN OUR FIRE.AND THIS THESE PHONES, I THINK THIS LEASE, $1,000,000 SHOULD GOES TOWARDS THAT FIRE STATION.
WE'RE PLANNING TO DEVELOP NORTHEAST PALM BAY BAYFRONT AREA.
AND IF WE DEVELOP THE BAYFRONT AREA WITH A BUNCH OF ACTIVITIES, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A FIRE STATION.
WE CLOSE SO THAT PALM BAY FIRST, A FIRE RESPONSE SHOULD BE BETWEEN, I THINK, 5 TO 7 MINUTES OVER FIRE RESPONDERS, 10 TO 15 MINUTES.
SO WE GOT TO FOCUS A LITTLE MORE ON THE FIRE STATION IMPROVEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE OVERALL.
THE GUN VIOLENCE IS NOT AN ISSUE.
I HEARD, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER WAS TALKING ABOUT AND STUFF.
MENTAL ILLNESS IS ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERN, I THINK IS THE PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND WE HAVE TO TRY OUR BEST TO FIX MENTAL ILLNESS.
AS RANDI WAS SAYING, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
PEOPLE CAN BE WELL TRAINED AND DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THEY HAVE A GUN WITH THEM WITH CONFRONTATION.
SO WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DO MENTAL ILLNESS.
ONE OF THE MAIN THING I THINK, IS THE PROBLEM.
THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.
RANDAL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOK STREET NORTHEAST.
STAND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, PALM BAY.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU AS A COUNCIL BODY IN THIS OPEN FORUM, BECAUSE I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING OR SO I THINK, REPRESENTING YOU AS A COUNSEL IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AS AN AT-LARGE POSITION.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS APPOINTING ME TO THAT BOARD.
I SPEAK AS MY SELF, AS A CITIZEN.
BUT WHAT I'M SEEING AND YOU GUYS REALLY CAUGHT A THEME THAT'S BEEN OVERWHELMING ME LATELY WITH THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, PROJECTS THAT ARE EVOLVING AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO TRAFFIC ALL AT ONCE.
SO YOU SAW EVERYTHING IN THAT BAYSIDE AREA.
THERE'S MORE THAT'S COMING TO YOU ALREADY CAME THROUGH PNC THAT'S GOING TO OVERWHELM GAYNOR AND OVERWHELM BOMBARDIER AND OVERWHELM POTENTIALLY MADDEN, WHICH ISN'T EVEN A PAVED ROAD AT THIS CURRENT TIME.
SO PLEASE BE ASTUTE TO AS THESE THINGS COME THROUGH, DO WHAT YOU WERE DOING TONIGHT AND TRY TO PAINT THAT BIG PICTURE, TRY TO ZOOM OUT THAT LENS AND REALLY PUT THESE PEOPLE ON THE MONEY BECAUSE SOMEBODY SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE.
I SERVE ALSO ACTUALLY, MR. MAYOR, YOUR APPOINTMENT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT AS THE CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AND AGAIN, I DON'T SPEAK AS THE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD OR FOR THAT BOARD. I SPEAK AS A CITIZEN WHO HAPPENS TO SERVE, BUT PROCESSING ALL THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS FOR WHAT THESE DEPARTMENTS NEED COMING UP THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE FIRE CHIEF GAVE US A REPORT THAT SAYS FOR US TO REACH THE NATIONAL RESPONSE TIME LEVEL, WHICH IS 8 MINUTES, WE NEED 11 FIRE STATIONS AND WE HAVE KIND OF SORT OF SIX AND WE NEED 11. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLANS FOR MAYBE THE SEVENTH.
AND WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THE EIGHTH, NINE, TEN, 11.
THAT'S BEFORE ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT I JUST TOLD YOU TODAY.
I HAVE ONE WORD SUMMARIES OF THE SIX FIRE STATIONS.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. NUMBER ONE IS OVERWORKED.
IT'S OLD. NUMBER THREE, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE LIKE CRAZY.
NUMBER THREE IS OFF OF JUPITER.
EVERYONE, REMEMBER THAT NUMBER FOUR HAS A MOLD ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN REMEDIATED, BUT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR MONEY LAST YEAR TO REMEDIATE IT.
IF ANYTHING, IT'S BEEN RECENTLY REMEDIATED.
NUMBER FIVE IS BRAND NEW. THAT'S GREAT.
IT'S A SHARED PIECE OF BREVARD COUNTY'S PROPERTY.
LASTLY, I DO ALSO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS BOARD IN A LARGE CAPACITY.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT THAT CONVERSATION TO THE BOARD AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.
WE DO HAVE SOME MEETINGS UP IN THE AIR COMING SOON.
GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING SERVICE, RANDAL WERE YOU?
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SO FAR. COME ON.ALL RIGHT. I'M ONE COURTEOUS, TOO.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THREE ISSUES.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SOURCE FOR COTTON FLAG MADE IN AMERICA.
VALLEY FORGE FLAG COMPANY IN PENNSYLVANIA.
THREE BY FIVE. THEY'RE AVAILABLE ON SIX BY NINE.
I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT BIG, BUT.
VALLEY FORGE. VALLEY FORGE FLAG COMPANY.
YOU CAN BUY THEM AT HOME DEPOT.
YOU CAN GET A SIX FOOT FLAG FOR LIKE 30 LESS THAN 40 BUCKS.
ALL RIGHT. AS FAR AS GUN CONTROL AND GUN PROBLEMS, WE SHOULD WORK TO FEDERAL, FEDERAL FEDERALIZE ALL GUN CRIMES.
PLEASE. THEY SEND PEOPLE TO PRISON.
IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A VIDEO WHERE THEY TAKE A CAR AND THEY CRASH IT INTO ANOTHER CAR THAT'S STANDING STILL AT 70 MILES AN HOUR, THE FRONT TIRE IS NEARLY TOUCHING THE BACK TIRE. IT'S UNSURVIVABLE.
MORNING. BUT YOU RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.
JUST REAL QUICK. I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
I JUST NEED TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE HEIGHT ELEVATION FOR THE NEW BUILDS.
AND HAVE YOU GUYS STARTED WORKING ON SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH SOME TEETH? SO PEOPLE REALLY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF JUST LETTING THEIR FINDS BUILD AND BUILD AND BUILD AND THEY SELL THEIR HOUSE AND THEY DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHERE THEY PAY IT OR NOT.
WAS HE TALKING ABOUT PORT MALABAR ROAD OR MALABAR ROAD OR INTERSECTING WITH ONE PORT MALABAR OR WHERE WINN-DIXIE WAS OR THE OLD WINN-DIXIE? WE USED TO BE RIGHT WHEN.
NOW I KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. THE OLD WOMAN, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ISN'T THAT NORTHBOUND LANE STILL A CONTINUOUS LANE OF TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION? SO HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO GET ACROSS A ROAD, YOU KNOW? WELL, THEY CAN BUILD A BRIDGE AND PUT A BRIDGE OVER IT.
YES. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. I GUESS THAT'S ALL I GOT.
THE GUN THING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LET THE FEDERALES HANDLE THAT.
I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN BE AWARE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S TAUGHT IT WELL, MAYBE NOT AS MILITARY GUYS ARE TAUGHT IT.
YOU KNOW, AND AS FAR AS HAVING A TRAINING SESSION.
POSSIBLY YOU COULD TAKE SOME CIVILIANS, HAVE THEM TRAIN BY THE POLICE TO GO TO THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND OFFER THE INFORMATION. YOU DON'T GET DOWN RUNNING OUT, LOCK THE DOOR, GET DOWN ON THEIR DESK, WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO.
IT'S ALL I GOT. I'LL BE THERE.
AND I GUESS I MISSED THE BASKETBALL GAME TONIGHT, SO.
YEAH. YEAH. I'M GOING TO CHANGE TEAMS AGAIN.
I'M GOING WITH THE WARRIORS NOW.
THANK YOU. MADAM SHERMAN ON THE ELEVATION.
CAN WE ADDRESS THAT? AND ALSO THE COACH.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO STEP FORWARD? MA'AM, COME TO THE LECTERN.
PLEASE. PLEASE. BURY IN ARLINGTON, I CAN TELL YOU.
I WILL DONATE THE FIRST THREE COTTON FLAGS FOR YOUR PROGRAM.
YOU DO NOT WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY ANYTHING BUT A COTTON FLAG.
BE THAT MAN. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK. ANYONE ELSE? STEP FORWARD, SIR.
AND WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN, MA'AM? MARIE RAMSEY FROM.
SEELEY CIRCLE. FIRST TIME HOMEBUYER.
NUMBER 26 AND NUMBER 27, WHICH WERE WITHDRAWN.
I DIDN'T KNOW. I WAS ACTUALLY ALERTED BY A NEIGHBOR OF MINE ABOUT IT AND KIND OF SCARES ME THAT THEY ACTUALLY I GUESS A SIMILAR COMPANY OR ANOTHER DEVELOPER ACTUALLY TRIED TO DO THIS IN THE PAST AND IT FAILED.
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YOU GUYS VOTED ME, AND I GUESS THEY'RE TRYING AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME THEY GOT WITHDRAWN.I JUST SAW WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.
I BASICALLY STAYED JUST BECAUSE I WANTED TO LEARN.
REAPPLYING, AND YOU KEEP THAT LEVEL OF FEAR THAT YOU NEED TO COME HERE DEFEND.
SO A SECOND ONE IS DONATING PORTION.
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MENTION THAT YOU MAYBE CAN DO A POST WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST DONATE FLAGS THAT AND FLAGS IF YOU'RE LOOKING, PEOPLE MIGHT ACTUALLY DONATE THEM AND THEY MIGHT WANT TO SEE THEM RAISED AND THEN GIVEN TO VETERANS.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS FIREFIGHTERS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ROADS.
IN MY HONEST OPINION, MY FAMILY WENT THROUGH MARIA.
SO I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT FIREFIGHTERS ARE AND ROADS THEY LOST FOREVER.
YES, THEY GET CRACKED UP AND BEAT UP, BUT FIREFIGHTERS DO SAVE MORE LIVES THAN ROAD.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? THIS COMPANY DOESN'T WANT TO CLOSE US OUT.
I HAD TO. YES, THAT IS A TITLE.
I'D LIKE TO CLOSE WITH GRATITUDE FOR OUR COUNSEL AND STAFF.
I SIT IN A LOT OF MEETINGS AND I SEE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION GROWING, AND I THINK THAT IS BECAUSE OF YOU THAT YOU LISTEN AND YOU RESPOND TO THE CITIZENS TO WHERE WE CAN COME IN AND SAY, WE, THE PEOPLE. AND I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOW, I'M EXCITED THAT YOU ENDED COUNCIL ON THAT NOTE WITH THAT
MEETING'S ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.