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OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY REGULAR MEETING 2022.

[CALL TO ORDER:]

THAT'S ZERO FIVE.

TO ORDER. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY MISS VICKY NORTHRUP.

WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND.

WHAT? ROLL CALL.

MISS DANIELLE. CHAIRMAN MEDINA.

PRESIDENT. VICE CHAIRMAN JOHNSON.

COMMISSIONER FELIX HERE.

COMMISSIONER FOSTER.

COMMISSIONER FILIBERTO HERE.

COMMISSIONER WEINBERG HERE.

COMMISSIONER NORTHRUP HERE.

BAYFRONT CRA ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS.

WE'VE GOT ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES NEXT.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]

THE DISCUSSIONS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL ICRA MEETING OF APRIL 19.

THE SECOND I GOT A MOTION BY MR. PHILIP WEINBERGER AND SECONDED BY MR. FILIBERTO. ANY DISCUSSION AND NONE ALL IN FAVOR.

I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THE REGULAR MEETING OR THE REGULAR BUDGET WORKSHOP OR MAY 5TH.

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 5TH BUDGET WORKSHOP.

I'LL SUCK IT OUT. THANK YOU.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY PHILIP WEINBERGER, SECONDED BY MR. FILIBERTO. ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? IAN? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.

ANY CARDS. OKAY.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

SO LET'S WORK ON OLD BUSINESS.

[OLD BUSINESS:]

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THIS. GIVE ME CHAIR.

JUST A MOMENT BEFORE WE CONSIDER THE OLD BUSINESS.

AT THE OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING, WE HAD THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

BUT WE TABLE THEM BECAUSE THE CITY HAD RECEIVED NANCY HAD RECEIVED A PROPOSAL OF A LAND SWAP.

IF BEFORE WE GET INTO A DISCUSSION OF THE THESE PURCHASE CONTRACTS, I'D LIKE HER TO EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD SLIGHTLY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT PROPOSED LAND SWAP WAS AND WHY WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING IT.

IT IS PART OF THE AGENDA PACKAGE THAT STAFF EVALUATED THE LAND SWAP AND DETERMINE THAT IT WAS NOT.

BASICALLY IT WAS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

EQUIVALENT TO FIVE PARCELS FOR ONE BAY BOULEVARD PARCEL.

SPEAKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER ASKED ME TO PROCEED.

CONTRACTS. THANK YOU, NANCY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. CARRY ON WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ALL RIGHT. CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE OFFERS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1608 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF ORANGE BLOSSOM AND TRAIL NORTHEAST AND HAS THE AVENUE NORTHEAST ADJACENT TO THE FEC RAILROAD MAIN LINE AND CONTAINS APPROXIMATELY 0.39 ACRES.

ON MARCH THREE, 2022, SIERRA DECLARED THIS PROPERTY AS SURPLUS.

AND THEN ON MARCH 17, 2022, CITY CITY COUNCIL DECLARED THIS PROPERTY AS SURPLUS REAL ESTATE.

ON FEBRUARY 24, 2022, THE CITY RECEIVED AN APPRAISAL FROM W H BENSON ON THIS PROPERTY.

IT APPRAISED IT 60,000.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ITEM WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD AT A SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 19, AND IT WAS TABLED TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO EVALUATE A PROPOSAL WHICH INCLUDED THIS PARCEL AND SEVERAL OTHERS.

SO THE FIRST VACANT LAND CONTRACT WAS RECEIVED ON MAY 13 FROM PALM BAY LANDINGS, LLC.

IT ALSO INCLUDES NOT ONLY 1608, BUT THE UNASSIGNED OB PARCEL, WHICH IS ALL BUSINESS TO THE CONTRACT, IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $140,000. THE CONTRACT PROVIDES FOR INITIAL DEPOSIT OF 14,000, WITH THREE DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND THE REMAINING 126,000 TO BE PAID AT TIME OF CLOSING.

CONTRACT HAS A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD FOR 90 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND A CLOSING DATE OF SEPTEMBER 20TH.

THE BUYER HAS PRESENTED THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL TERMS OF NOTE SELLER WILL PAY FOR THE COST OF A SURVEY FOR EACH PARCEL ON MAY 21ST.

THE SIERRA RECEIVED A SECOND VACANT LAND CONTRACT FROM STEVEN RAGNOW OR A SIGNEE IN THE AMOUNT OF 55,000.

THIS CONTRACT PROVIDES FOR INITIAL DEPOSIT OF 5500 WITH THREE DAYS.

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THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND THE REMAINING 49,500 TO BE PAID AT TIME OF CLOSING.

THE CONTRACT PROVIDES A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD OF 45 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND A CLOSING DATE OF AUGUST EIGHT ON MAY 24TH.

THE CRA RECEIVED A VACANT LAND CONTRACT FROM ROBERT AND CLAUDIA GOMES IN THE AMOUNT OF $62,100.

THE CONTRACT PROVIDES FOR INITIAL DEPOSIT OF $2,000 WITHIN THREE DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND THE REMAINING 60,100 TO BE PAID AT TIME OF CLOSING.

CONTRACT PROVIDES A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD OF 45 DAYS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND A CLOSING DATE OF AUGUST EIGHT.

THE BUYER HAS PRESENTED THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL TERMS OF NOTE PROPERTY AND RECORD CLEAN FROM LIENS, MORTGAGES, COVENANTS, DEED RESTRICTIONS, EASEMENTS, WETLANDS AND OTHER RELATED RESTRICTIONS. ALL THE BUYERS WILL PAY CASH FOR THE PROPERTY WITH NO FINANCING CONTINGENCY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WHICHEVER SOFTWARE YOU CONSIDER THAT THE MOTION ALSO INCLUDE INCREASING THE DEPOSITS TO 10%, WHICH IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. QUESTIONS.

ALSO, WE HAVE THE CITY'S BROKER HERE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? YES, NANCY.

THAT UNASSIGNED OBIT PARCEL, WE DON'T HAVE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THAT DOING.

FINE. YES. YOU DO HAVE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THAT.

ANOTHER ONE THAT YOU MAY BE THINKING OF, THE 1626 WANTED AN ADDITIONAL TRIANGULAR PORTION, RIGHT? JEREMY. MR. FILIBERTO ALL RIGHT, SO I SAW THE NUMBER ONE ON OLD BUSINESS.

IT WAS 60 K APPRAISAL.

ITEM NUMBER TWO. WAS THERE AN APPRAISAL ON THAT? 90. IT WAS TO 140 THE APPRAISED VALUE WITH 14.

THREE DAYS TO CLOSE. AND YOU WANT YOU WANT 10% CORRECT ON YOUR 9%.

OKAY. THE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

LOOK. SO, MR. WEINBERGER. YEAH.

ONE THING, NANCY.

THE THE FIRST OFFER OF 140,000 FOR THE TWO PARCELS.

IT HAS A CLOSING DATE OF SEPTEMBER 20TH, BUT IT'S REQUIRING US TO TO PAY FOR THE COST OF OUR SURVEY FOR EACH PARCEL.

AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, AND I'M SURE AS A LOT OF US KNOW, THAT RIGHT NOW SURVEY COMPANIES ARE EXTREMELY BACKED UP.

WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE SURVEYS BY SEPTEMBER 20TH.

SO IF WE ACCEPT THAT OFFER, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN A A PARAGRAPH.

DELAYING THE CLOSING UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER THE SURVEYS ARE RECEIVED.

I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THAT'S AN AGGRESSIVE DATE.

SO VERY GOOD. MR..

WEINBERG. SO HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK AFTER WE RECEIVED THE SURVEY? OUR. STEP.

WELL, LET ME LET ME LET ME HEAR FROM THEN.

I'LL I'LL ASK YOU, MR. TIM. I NEED TO SAY MEL HOWARD.

1331 SOUTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

MR. TIMMONS JUST CLOSED ON A PIECE OF LAND THAT WE GOT TO SURVEY IN, WHAT, 30 DAYS? YOU CAN. YEAH, WE'RE.

YES, IT IS.

WE'RE PULLING SURVEYORS OUT OF THE OUT OF THE AREA OUT OF ORLANDO IN WEST PALM.

UNDERSTOOD. I THINK MR. WEINBERGER'S POINT IS, IF WE DON'T MEET THAT CRITERIA, WE DON'T WANT TO BE HELD TO HOLDING THE BAG, SO TO SPEAK.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

HIS POINT IS SO VALID.

IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

I AGREE WITH HIM.

I AGREE WITH HIM. BUT IN THIS CASE, MR. TIMMONS, WE FOUND A SURVEYOR THROUGH SUPREME TITLE.

SHE WAS AWESOME AND GAVE US A SURVEY.

CINDY LITTLE GAVE US THAT SURVEY, THAT SURVEYOR SORRY.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO CLOSE HIS PROPERTY ON TIME.

I JUST WANT IT ON THE RECORD THAT IF WE DON'T MEET THAT CRITERIA BECAUSE OF THE SURVEY OR WE WANT THAT GRACE PERIOD AND WHAT KIND OF GRACE PERIOD ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? MAYBE 60 DAYS IF WE DON'T MEET THAT THAT DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER.

I WANT TO MENTION ONE THING THAT THE SIERRA DOES IS NOT ABLE TO EXPEND THE FUNDS FOR THE SURVEY.

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SO IT WOULD BE THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THERE CURRENTLY IS NOT A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN OUR BUDGET.

WE'RE ALMOST AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR THIS.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL, ASK FOR GENERAL FUND BUDGET TRANSFER AD MONEY.

ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT THE FIRE.

SERVE, NOT THE SELLER, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE APPRAISED VALUE, IT'S 100 AND.

ALSO ASKED THAT YOU CONSIDER COUNTEROFFER OF 150,008.

WE'RE BUMPING IT UP TO 150.

INCLUDE THE SURVEY.

BOTH PROPERTIES.

OKAY. OK COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENT ON THAT? YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT.

YES, SIR. GO AHEAD, MR. FOSTER. WE SHOULD GO WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND AT THE TIME, LIKE YOU SAID.

STILL AT THE TIMELINE.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, FRANKLY, I THINK $140,000 IS A FAIR OFFER FOR BOTH PARCELS, CONSIDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I THINK WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE BOTH PARCELS BOUGHT BY THE SAME BUYER RATHER THAN TO INDIVIDUAL BUYERS OR HAVE TO LIST THE OTHER PARCEL WHICH WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFER ON. ALSO, SECONDLY, I THINK I AGREE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE BUYER TO PAY FOR THE SURVEY.

BUT AGAIN, IN THAT SITUATION, YOU KNOW, SINCE HE'S OFFERING TO BUY BOTH PARCELS, $440,000, IF WE JUST NEGOTIATE THAT HE IS WILLING TO PAY FOR THE SURVEYS. I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT THE OFFER OF $140,000 WITH THE THE THE BUYER PAYING FOR THE SURVEYS AND TO CLOSE WITHIN.

I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A DUE DILIGENCE OF 60 DAYS ONCE THEY RECEIVE THE SURVEY.

I THINK WITHIN 30 DAYS WOULD PROBABLY BE A REASONABLE AMOUNT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ACCEPT THE $140,000 OFFER WITH THE BUYER PAYING FOR THE SURVEY AND TO CLOSE BY SEPTEMBER 20TH OR WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE SURVEY.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SURVEY WILL BE LESS THAN $10,000? UNDOUBTEDLY. ALL RIGHT.

MISS NORTHROP, YOU WANT TO SHARE ANY ANY COMMENTS? OKAY. WELL, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A VOICE.

YOU HAVE A VOICE ON THIS DAIS, MA'AM.

FILIBERTO. I DO RESPECT MR. WEINBERG'S RECOMMENDATION.

HOWEVER, I PREFER TO GO WITH STAFF ON THIS ONE.

I MEAN, IT WAS APPRAISED AT ONE WOOD PROPERTY, WAS APPRAISED AT 60 K AND THE OTHER ONE AT 90, WHICH WAS THE 150.

AND I WAS I WASN'T OKAY WITH.

THE SURVEY BEING DONE BY THE SELLER.

I THINK THE BUYER SHOULD DO A SURVEY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE HIS SURVEY PEOPLE.

HE'S GOING TO GET A BREAK ON IT.

THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION ON IT.

THANK YOU, MR. TIMMINS. WELL.

SO I'VE GOT YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT MR. FOSTER SAYING 150 STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

TONY, WHAT IS YOUR WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE CHAIRMAN AND C NOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT INCLUDING THE BUYER OR SELLER PAYING FOR FOR THE SURVEY.

THE BUYER PLUS THE 150.

AND IT WOULD BE IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE LONGER FOR US.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY BUDGETED.

AND MONEY. AND THEN WE WOULD.

WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE. I DO AGREE THAT THE THE SURVEY WOULD CONSIDERABLY MUCH LOWER THAN 10,000, BUT I DO SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 150.

BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. WEINBERG THAT THIS BE THE AT THAT POINT IF WE DO GET 150.

YOU KNOW, TO PUT PUT IT BACK ON THE BUYER AGAIN TO PAY FOR THE SURVEY.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING THE 10,000 GAP IS TO PAY FOR THE SURVEY IN THE TIMEFRAME.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE $10,000 WOULD BE TO THE FACT THAT OUR BUDGET WON'T BE SUFFICIENT TO TO COVER THE SURVEY.

I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FELT THAT THE APPRAISED VALUE WAS 150 AND TYPICALLY THE BUYERS ALWAYS PAID FOR THE SURVEYS ANYWAY.

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THAT'S BUILT.

LOOKING AT APPRAISED VALUE PLUS.

MOST OF THE. CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE HAD.

AYERS. THERE IS THE OTHER AGENDA FOR MR. RAGNOW. SENT TWO SEPARATE CONTRACTS.

THE TOTAL OF HIS TWO CONTRACTS FOR THE PROPERTIES ARE 135.

135. 135,000.

HE WOULD PAY FOR THE SURVEY.

THE APPRAISED VALUE OF BOTH PROPERTIES IS ONE 5934 164 THE OTHER TO AS OR MR. FILIBERTO STATED HE'S GOOD WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I BELIEVE I HEARD THAT SAME FROM MR. FOSTER AT THE 150 AND HE'LL PROBABLY GET A DISCOUNT FOR THE SURVEY.

MEET THE TIME FRAME. I WOULD SUPPORT STOCK RECOMMENDATIONS.

WELL, I'LL BE THAT.

YEAH, I'M IN AGREEMENT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO GO BELOW THE APPRAISED VALUE, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS DAIS.

I LIKE THE 150 AND.

WITH THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE HE'S GOT CONTACTS, OBVIOUSLY IN SURVEY, HE COULD GET IT DONE THAT QUICKLY.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, GENTLEMEN.

OH, AS YOU WERE. COME ON UP, MR. TIM, BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.

RIGHT. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, I'LL ADDRESS THE SURVEY FIRST.

GENERALLY, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT THAT I WOULD ASK A SELLER TO PAY FOR, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY DOESN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS.

IT IS PART AND PARCEL OF SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE KIND OF CUT OUT FROM THE RETENTION POND PROPERTY.

AND AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS QUITE SURE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINES ARE TODAY.

AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A DIFFICULT SURVEY TO DO BECAUSE IT REALLY IT'S KIND OF DEPENDENT ON THE CITY.

WHAT ARE YOU SELLING? BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE A PARCEL THAT WAS ALWAYS THERE THAT YOU COULD GO AND YOU COULD GO BACK HISTORICALLY, WHICH I GENERALLY DO ON OUR PROPERTIES.

IF YOU'VE SEEN AND LOOK AT THAT HISTORIC CUT OUT, THIS IS UNKNOWN PROPERTY NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS THERE.

SO IT'S A IT'S A LITTLE BIT VAGUE AND WHAT IT IS AND AND I THINK IT WILL BE SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING BECAUSE I DOUBT THAT THERE'S MARKERS FOR A SURVEYOR TO GO.

AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN ON THE PROPERTY.

SECONDLY, TO A TO US, THE THE VALUE I, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE VALUE OF THE FRONT PARCEL, BUT THE BACK PARCEL AT 90,000 NEXT TO THAT RETENTION POND NEXT TO THE TRACKS.

NO OFFENSE TO MR. BENSON.

I JUST DON'T FEEL THE VALUE IS THERE.

AND I CERTAINLY HAVE LOOKED AT ENOUGH PROPERTY PROBABLY TOWARD THE END OF THIS MONTH WHEN WHEN A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES I HAVE CLOSE, I'LL HAVE ACQUIRED 15 TO 16 ACRES OF PROPERTY IN THE WATERFRONT.

AND I THINK AS THIS AS THIS COMMISSION KNOWS, I CERTAINLY AM PASSIONATE ABOUT DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY TO MAKE IT A DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE TO COME FOR YEARS.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD NEGOTIATE AND GRIND ON 10,000.

I THINK THAT I ALWAYS PUT A FAIR NUMBER UP AND I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT HIS APPRAISAL IS RIGHT.

SO IT CAN BE APPRAISED AT WHATEVER SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, APPRAISED IT AT OTHER OFFERS DIDN'T COME IN THAT HIGH.

AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MY OFFER.

I THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE CITY AND I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE PAYING FOR THE THE APPRAISAL.

I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THAT PROPERTY LINE ULTIMATELY ENDS UP.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR A LITTLE LONGER DUE DILIGENCE OR ESCROW PERIOD.

IF I GO INTO A CONTRACT, AS LONG AS THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S OUT OF THE ORDINARY LIKE IT CAN NEVER BE DEVELOPED OR BUILT ON, I'M BUYING THE PROPERTY.

IT JUST THIS IS A UNIQUE AND KIND OF ODD PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I PUT THE WHAT I BELIEVE A FAIR OFFER IN.

SO, SIR, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. THE COMPLICATIONS IN THE SURVEY THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, WOULD THAT AFFECT THE TIMELINE, DO YOU THINK? IT IT MAY IT MAY REQUIRE A SPECIAL SURVEYOR, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO REQUIRE, I THINK, HELP FROM THE CITY.

AND THAT'S WHY I KIND OF PUT THE ONUS ON THE CITY A LITTLE BIT, KIND OF, WHAT ARE YOU SELLING? I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T IF YOU LOOK AT YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLOT, IT WAS THE ENTIRE THE ENTIRE AREA THAT WAS THAT IS NOW THE RETENTION POND THAT SITS THERE.

AND THIS IS JUST BACK OF THAT.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FRONT PARCEL.

SO IT'S A LITTLE EVEN VAGUE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THERE'S AN ACREAGE THAT'S PUT THERE.

BUT HOW IT'S IT'S REALLY DETERMINED IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO THERE'S I DOUBT THERE'S ANY MARKERS IN THE GROUND.

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SO THE CITY ALMOST HAS TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SELLING.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CARVING OFF, IN MY OPINION.

I MAY BE WRONG, NANCY, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR JUST THAT PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN THAT HAS BEEN SURVEYED BEFORE, THAT THEY'LL JUST BE ABLE TO EASILY GO TO TO THE MARKERS AND SAY, HERE'S ONE, HERE'S ONE.

AND GENERALLY WHAT I DO IS BECAUSE I'M A VISUAL PERSON AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE GPS IS, I SAY STAKE THE GROUND FOR ME SO THAT I CAN SEE IT.

AND SO THEY NEED TO LINE UP WITH THE MARKERS THAT ARE IN THE GROUND.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR NANCY.

IF MR. TIM HAVE A IF WHAT MR. TIMMS IS SAYING IS TRUE AND THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ABOUT THE THE THE PROPERTY LINES OF THIS UNASSIGNED PARCEL.

IF THAT'S TRUE, THEN IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE A MARKETABLE TITLE.

THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THE PROPERTY LINES ARE.

THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE LOT AND WELL, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

WE DON'T HAVE A MARKETABLE TITLE AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A SURVEY TO DETERMINE THOSE THINGS AND SO THAT WE WOULD INDEED HAVE A MARKETABLE TITLE.

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ON THAT? HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE TALKED WITH SIMMONS.

BUT I WILL SAY THE ENTIRE PARCEL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM, IT WAS 5.63 ACRES.

IT WAS OWNED BY THE SIERRA AND THEN THE CITY SPLIT IT INTO THAT UNASSIGNED PARCEL.

THE ONLY REASON WHY IT'S UNASSIGNED IS BECAUSE IT NEVER HAD ANYTHING ON IT TO HAVE AN ADDRESS.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I CAN CHECK WITH JOEL IN THE MORNING, OUR CITY SURVEYOR IS SINCE WE SUBDIVIDED IT OUT FROM THE 5.6 ACRES, FIVE, SIX, THREE ACRES, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE A SURVEY AND THAT IT'S CLEARLY DELINEATED WHERE THAT PARCEL IS.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO THAT PARCEL, BUT DIVIDE IT INTO A SEPARATE PARCEL.

SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE A SURVEY.

IT WAS THE CITY THAT DID THAT.

IF WE HAVE IF WE HAVE THAT SURVEY, WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN? SO WE COULD PROVIDE YOU WITH A COPY OF THAT SURVEY? IT WAS DONE BY OUR IN-HOUSE SURVEY.

ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU HAVE A SURVEY THAT SAYS HERE'S A PROPERTY AND SOMEONE CAN GO OUT AND STAKE THE LINES, I'LL ACCEPT THE SURVEY JUST LIKE I ACCEPT THE SURVEY AND OTHER PROPERTIES NOT HAVING AN ADDRESS.

AND AND FOR ME IN MY RESEARCH, I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING.

THAT REALLY WAS WHY I WAS ASKING THE CITY TO KIND OF OK WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SELLING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GO TO DEVELOP AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THAT SURVEY.

AND I, I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH THE CITY, SO I'D RATHER HAVE THE CITY PROVIDE ME A SURVEY THAT SAYS, HERE IS WHAT WE'RE SELLING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO IF YOU HAVE A SURVEY, I'M FINE THAT SAYS THE ACREAGE AND IT GETS MARKED OUT BY JUST JOKING, GO OUT AND PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND.

IT'S NOT. IT'S EASY AND I'LL ACCEPT THAT.

THANK YOU. SO YOU WANTED TO SPEAK? JUST A STEP FORWARD.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT, TOO, I REPRESENT BOTH PARTIES IN THIS TRANSACTION AND ON ALL THE CONTRACTS I DO THAT'S CALLED A TRANSACTION BROKER, AND I HAVE TO BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO BOTH PARTIES.

AND IN MR. TIMMONS DEFENSE, MR. WEINBERG FIRST CAME OUT WITH DO WE HAVE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION? YOU CAN'T GET A LEGAL DESCRIPTION IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SURVEY.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN. CAN YOU? IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.

WELL, AND IT MAY NOT BE CORRECT.

I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE. YEAH.

SO. SO IF.

IF WE DO HAVE ONE, THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S REALLY GREAT.

AND I EVEN I EVEN QUESTIONED HIM AND HE SAID JUST A COUPLE OF SECONDS AGO THAT ONCE THE SURVEY THING IS DONE, HE CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO REASON TO GO ANY FURTHER.

THANK YOU. THANKS, RODNEY.

MR. EDWARDS, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED BY SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

I THINK THEY'RE BEING.

LITTLE BIT OVERDRAMATIZED.

APPLE IS. I JUST PURCHASED A HOME.

IT HAD NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED BEFORE.

HAD NO ADDRESS.

STILL ABLE TO GO IN AND PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS SELLING IT.

IT'S CALLED A SURVEYOR OUT.

THE SURVEYOR CAME OUT SURVEYING THE PROPERTY.

STAKE IN THE GROUND, MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

MARKETABLE TITLE WAS THERE.

SO GETTING.

LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM WHAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERING FOR THE PROPERTY.

I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ISSUES LIKE THIS.

IT'S PRETTY COMMON THAT A VACANT LOT.

AN ADDRESS.

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THANK YOU. WELL.

YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR OK? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, GENTLEMEN.

I'M GOING TO DO THE 154.

WHAT? WHAT ARE WE DOING? GENTLEMEN, I NEED A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF 150 AND HAVE THE PURCHASER.

BEFORE THE SURVEY IF YOU DESIRE AN EMOTION BY MR. FOSTER. I'LL SECOND THAT.

I'VE GOT A SECOND BY MR. FILIBERTO. MR. FOSTER, YOU WANT TO.

MAKE COMMENTS. YEAH, I JUST YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

IT WAS APPRAISED.

AT 60 AND 90.

THAT'S 150.

IT WAS PRAISED THAT BACK LOT WAS APPRAISED FOR THE AMOUNT BY A PROFESSIONAL APPRAISER, I ASSUME, AND.

AND WHEN YOU COMBINE BOTH PROPERTIES EQUALS TO 150, WE'RE NOT ASKING NO MORE THAN WHAT THE APPRAISED VALUE IS AND.

WE JUST FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S POSSIBLY A SURVEY HAS BEEN DONE.

SO IT'S TO ME, IT'S IN THE BUYER BEST INTEREST TO HAVE HIS OWN SURVEY DONE.

SO HE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE'S GETTING IT DON'T COME BACK YEARS LATER WHERE I RELIED ON THE CITY AND IT WAS INCORRECT.

SO I WOULD HAVE MY OWN SURVEY DONE IF I WAS BUYING IT.

I THINK THAT'S A FAIR OFFER.

I APPRECIATE THE BUYER, WHAT HE'S DONE FOR THE C.R.A.

AND WHAT HE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN PALM BAY.

AND I HOPE WE COULD DO FURTHER BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU, MR. FILIBERTO.

YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR.

JUST ADDING ON TO WHAT MR. FOSTER SAID. THINGS ARE GOING FOR OVER A PERIOD OF APPRAISED VALUE AT THE CURRENT MOMENT.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION WHEN WE FIRST CONSIDERED SELLING THIS PROPERTY IN THE FIRST PLACE, I MENTIONED THE BRIGHTLINE STOP.

SO THIS WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES FOR ME FOR A BRIGHT LINE STOP.

SO I DO WANT TO GET THAT APPRAISED VALUE FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT IS THE REASON I'M BACKING THE COMMENTS HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND I DO REMEMBER THAT, MR. FILIBERTO, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE ONE DAY.

I REALLY DO.

I'M VERY PRAYERFUL.

ANY COMMENTS FROM MS..

VICKI OR BEFORE? BEFORE QUESTION? YES. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THE ASSHOLE HADN'T.

SO SPEAKING TO ME, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT GROWTH MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE HAD SOMETHING ON FILE.

BACK WITH JOE HALE AND CRAIG MCKINNON IN OUR SURVEYING DEPARTMENT.

I'M JUST ASSUMING THAT BECAUSE IT WAS A 5.63 ACRE PARCEL AND IT GOT SUBDIVIDED OUT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE DONE A SURVEY IN ORDER TO DIVIDE OUT THAT PARCEL AS A SEPARATE PARCEL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE THEY COULD HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT.

GETTING IT SURVEYED.

SO. BUT I WILL CHECK WITH THEM IN THE MORNING TO VERIFY.

PROVIDE THAT TO. MR. CHAIR, JUST A COUPLE A COUPLE OF POINTS.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER FOSTER SAID, WELL, THE BUYER MIGHT WANT TO GET HIS OWN SURVEY.

THAT'S TYPICALLY NOT NECESSARY.

I MEAN, A SURVEYOR BY A LICENSED CERTIFIED SURVEYOR IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT.

SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF, WELL, I GET MY OWN SURVEY.

IT'S IT'S A LEGITIMATE SURVEY.

IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYBODY.

I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE YOU KNOW, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO GO WITH WITH WITH COMMISSIONER FOSTER'S MOTION THAT WE JUST ADD IN THERE ALSO THAT IF IF THE CITY DOES HAVE A SURVEY THAT IS PROVIDED TO THE TO THE BUYER.

WELL, I GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS ACTION RIGHT NOW? YES, I DON'T MIND MANY IN MY MOTION TO ADD MR. WEINBERG COMMENTS TO THAT MOTION SPECIFICALLY.

CONCERNING THE SURVEY THAT IF WE HAVE A SURVEY ON FILE, THE PURCHASER COULD USE THAT SURVEY AS A LEGAL DOCUMENTS TO GO FORWARD ON THE PURCHASE OF THIS

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PROPERTY. I'LL BE THAT, MR. FILIBERTO. I'LL GO WITH THAT.

SO I'LL WITHDRAW MY SECOND NOW SECOND THAT.

OKAY. SO HE WITHDREW HIS SECOND AND YOUR MOTION IS AMENDED.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

ANYTHING ELSE, MR..

MR.. EDWARDS, YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NOW, I HAVE A SECOND WITH MR. FILIBERTO TO INCLUDE THE AMENDED DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE SURVEY.

ALL RIGHT, I'M CALLING THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR. I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO I'LL NEED ANOTHER MOTION FOR ITEM TO.

MR. CHAIR, I'LL. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO. CONSIDERATION OF BUSINESS PURCHASE OFFERS FOR CITY OWNED SURPLUS REAL ESTATE LOCATED ON ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL NORTH EAST ADDRESS ON THE SIGNED PASS BY 28, 37, 24, 25, 613 AND TAX ID 2866312 TO PALM BAY LANDINGS LLC.

I'LL BE LANDING. I HAVE A SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY MR. FILIBERTO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION? WE'RE GOOD. ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

THIS IS RESOLUTION 2020 201 AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF BAYFRONT AREA OWNED SURPLUS REAL ESTATE LOCATED AT 1582 WATER DRIVE NORTHEAST TO BUYER PALM BAY LANDINGS, LLC.

SO IN 2017, THE CRA ACQUIRED THIS 0.44 ACRE PARCEL FROM VELMA VAN GORDER, KAY QUAY AND TERENCE L HILL AS PART OF THE AGENCY'S LAND, BANKING AND PROPERTY ACQUISITION INITIATIVE IN THE AMOUNT OF 330,000.

THERE WAS A TWO STORY BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY, BUT PROPERTY IS NOW CURRENTLY VACANT.

THEN ON MARCH 5TH, 2020, THE CRA DECLARED THIS PROPERTY AS SURPLUS.

SURPLUS. THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WAS DETERMINED TO BE 192,000 ON ON FEBRUARY 22.

THE CITY RECEIVED A VACANT LAND CONTRACT FROM PALM BAY LANDINGS IN THE AMOUNT OF 192,000.

SO AT THE APRIL 19 SPECIAL BAYFRONT CRA MEETING 2020 204, THE BOARD APPROVED THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE CONTRACTS FOR 192,000. THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE FINAL SALE.

I NEED A MOTION, GENTLEMEN.

MOST IMPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 2-1 SECOND GOT A MOTION BY PHILIP WEINBERGER SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN OR MR. FOSTER. COMMISSIONER WEINBERGER SINGING IT BY COMMISSIONER FOSTER.

WEINBERG. WEINBERG.

I WANTED TO ADD IN YOUR NAME.

MR. WEINBERG. I'M SORRY.

I KNOW. AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND I'LL EXPLAIN AFTER AFTER WE VOTE ON THIS.

THAT'S OKAY. CHAIRMAN MEDINA.

THANK YOU. I'LL EXPLAIN.

I'LL EXPLAIN AFTERWARDS.

I GOT A MOTION BY MR. WEINBERG, SECONDED BY MR. FOSTER. ALL IN FAVOR.

I AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO. MR. WEINBERG, I HAVEN'T EATEN LUNCH AND AND IT'S AND I HAVE BEEN CRAVING A BURGER SO THAT I, I UNDERSTAND NOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

BUT WE'RE ON COMMISSIONER REPORTS IS THERE.

[COMMISSIONER REPORTS:]

I'LL START WITH YOU, MISS NORTHRUP.

NOTHING. THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY, MA'AM, AS YOU ALWAYS HAVE.

MR.. WEINBERG YEAH, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

I JUST WANT TO WELCOME VICKY NORTHRUP TO THE BOARD.

THANK YOU, MR. WEINBERG. MR. FILIBERTO. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF REGARDING THE NATIONAL SCENIC BYWAY PROGRAM.

SEE, WE FOLLOWED UP ON THE GRANTS WITH REGARDING THAT FOR THE US ONE CORRIDOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNOW. I KNOW THE REPORT, SIR.

I'LL BE THAT. TRAV? NO. MR. FOSTER, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, VICKY NORTHRUP, FOR JOINING US AND SERVING THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I KNOW YOU DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

THANK YOU. I'LL STANDING AND I'LL I'LL I'LL ACTUALLY.

THIRD THOSE COMMENTS.

OUTSTANDING JOB, MA'AM.

I KNOW YOU'VE SERVED OUR COMMUNITY WELL, AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE SITTING IN THIS CAPACITY, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE PALM BAY OK.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR REPORTS AS I HAVE NONE OTHER THAN THAT.

AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.