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I'LL CALL THE MEETING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD TO ORDER.
CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, CHAIR. CHAIRMAN THOMAS COME PRESENT VICE CHAIR REBECCA.
ABSENT MEMBER DAVID JONES, PRESIDENT TERRY MULLER ROSEN VITALI HASN'T GOT A QUORUM. THANK YOU.
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IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE THE MEETINGS OR THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.ANY CHANGES? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
JUST WHO WAS THE FIRST MOTION? DAVID AND THEN SECOND.
BUT COMMENTS FROM MR. BATTEN TONIGHT. NEW BUSINESS, MR.
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WATANABE. ALL RIGHT.PER THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION REGARDING FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
AND SO I PUT TOGETHER A QUICK PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST IS WHAT I CALL THE NORTHWEST NORTHWEST QUADRANT, AND IT'S THE AREA, AS YOU SEE ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, WHICH PRETTY MUCH SHOWS THE THE EAST WEST ROADS AS MALABAR ROAD, PACE AND EMERSON AND THEN THE SOUTHWEST ROADS IS BASICALLY BEING THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN JUPITER.
SO THIS BASICALLY IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE CALL THE NORTHWEST DEVELOPMENTS OCCURRING.
SO WE HAD DEVELOPMENTS LIKE AVERY SPRINGS, BRENTWOOD, CHAPARRAL, THE THREE FORKS, YOU KNOW, SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PRESERVE, THE SOON TO COME THE MALABAR SPRINGS, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THEN GOING UP THE PARKWAY, WE HAVE PALM VISTA, PALM VISTA MIDDLE.
AND AS YOU SEE, IT'S ALL SHOWN IN YELLOW.
FOR EXAMPLE, ST JOHN'S PRESERVE HAS PHASES ONE AND TWO.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT WAS 155 FOR THE FIRST 465 FOR A SECOND, AS WELL AS 300 FOR A MULTI FAMILY.
THEN YOU HAVE THE PALM VISTA EVERLANE'S, WHICH WAS 162.
THEN YOU CONTINUE DOWN WITH SEPARATE PHASES ONE AND TWO.
THEY WERE WAY BEFORE 602 PHASE IS 325 522 BRENTWOOD LAKES 124 417 AVERY SPRINGS 140 HERITAGE SQUARE COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD BE A SOON TO COME PUBLIX WITH SOME OTHER PARCELS.
A METAL BAR SPRINGS PHASE ONE, WHICH HAS 600 873.
AND THAT'S A MIXED USE OF SOME SINGLE FAMILY 376 SINGLE SINGLE FAMILY, 288 MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS.
THERE'S AN RV PARK AND ABUTS ABOUT 6.4 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.
AND THERE'S A STELLA CASITA THAT'S THAT NEW KIND OF LIKE A MINI HOMES AND RENTAL HOMES YOU CAN RENT.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, JUST A PHASE TWO, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP.
HUGE AREA RIGHT HERE. WHAT'S LEFT OF THAT CORNER.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE DOING A NORTH WEST MASTERPLAN.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE STUDIES DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, YOU KNOW, THEY DO INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC STUDIES.
SO HALF THE VESTED CHIPS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
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SO WE HAVE A SLIGHT.DEFICIENCY IN TERMS OF WHAT SHOULD BE THERE AS BEST INTERESTS.
AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON, WE'LL JUST KEEP ADDING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND WE'LL HAVE A BETTER CONTROL IN TERMS OF FORECASTING AND MODELING AND IDENTIFYING ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AHEAD OF TIME. SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS PAY THEIR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE AND WHATEVER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, WIDENING TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE.
SECOND ONE. I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO YOU ARE DOING THIS LOADED MODEL NOW, BUT ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ARE UNDERWAY.
HOW IS HOW IS THAT GOING TO BENEFIT US IF WE CAN'T GO BACK AND HAVE THEM? WE CAN ONLY GO FORWARD.
CORRECT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT US AS A CITY IF WE'RE DOING IT AFTER THE FACT AND THEN THEY'RE STILL THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE, BUT WE THEN HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE OF.
SO WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING APPROVED.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYBE IT SHOULD HAPPEN A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO.
THIS HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT A CONVERSATION TO FIGURE OUT HOW.
SO WE'RE IDENTIFYING HOW WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE IT FOR THE FUTURE.
BUT HOW IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE UP FOR THAT GAP? BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A GAP.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT.
BUT I'M JUST ASKING, IS THAT A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE GAP? BECAUSE THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A GAP.
AGAIN, UNTIL WE HAD THE STUDY, UNTIL WE IDENTIFY WHAT IS THIS GAP, I HAVE NO IDEA.
I DON'T KNOW, UNTIL I RUN THE MODEL.
VERY OPTIMISTIC. I LOVE IT UNTIL I RUN THE MODEL AND SEE WHAT'S THERE.
KNOW I'M SAYING. AND AGAIN YOU GET TO.
THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM IN THIS OCCURRED.
GOOD EXAMPLE, MALABAR ROAD, THAT MALABAR ROAD HAD BEEN FOUR LANE BEFORE ANY OF THIS HAPPENED.
CORRECT. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THESE HAVE UP.
BUT THEN WE STILL WENT AND APPROVED ALL OF THAT.
I'M SAYING WE MEAN COUNCIL APPROVED IT.
AND SO IT WAS PRETTY CONTROLLABLE.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL DEVELOPERS OUT THERE.
AND NOW WE HAVE CYPRESS BAY WEST, ONE, TWO AND THREE.
WE HAVE THE GARDENS ONE, TWO AND THREE.
AND THEN WE POTENTIALLY HAVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING ON THAT CORNER WHERE.
EAST CORNER, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY BE A PUBLIX.
SO THIS WHOLE THING KEEPS CHANGING.
SHE HERE THAT'S A HUGE FEUD THAT'S DEVELOPING.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I KNOW OF SEVERAL OTHER ONES THAT ARE FISHING IN THIS AREA.
SO THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT, WHICH IS THE RIGHT TIME AGAIN TO DO THE STUDY.
LOOK AT ALL THE ONES IN THE SOUTH WEST, WHICH INCLUDES CYPRESS BAY EAST ONE AND TWO COURTYARDS, ONE AND TWO GARDENS, ONE CYPRESS BAYS, ONE THROUGH WEST, ONE THROUGH THREE GARDENS SHOULD BE TWO AND THREE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE CYPRESS BAY COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS POTENTIAL EIGHT PARCELS.
AND I THINK HE'S LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MITCHELL PARK VILLAGES.
ADD ALL THIS UP, YOU HAVE ALL THOSE TRIPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOADING ONTO BABCOCK.
I'M NOT TOO WORRIED ABOUT THIS.
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SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS.EXTENSIONS OF GERMANY DRIVE COMPLETION OF MARIA LOMA.
INSTALLATION OF SIGNAL AT MARY LOMA AT BABCOCK.
ALL THOSE ARE BEING DEVELOPED.
PROPORTIONATE. FAIR. SHARE PAID.
AND THAT'S ONLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, NOT THE NORTH SOUTH, BECAUSE WE HAD A BETTER WE HAD A BETTER CONTROL BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY AT ONE TIME ONE DEVELOPER WITH ONE STUDY THAT SAYS, HERE ARE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE NORTHWEST HERE.
SO WE HAVE A WAY TO ENGAGE EACH OF THESE DEVELOPERS TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.
WE WENT THROUGH A SERIES OF STUDIES PORTION OF FAIR SHARE STUDIES.
EACH OF THE DEVELOPERS HAVE ALL AGREED ON THEIR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE.
ONE HAS ALREADY GONE TO COUNCIL AND HAS BEEN APPROVED THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT.
THE SECOND ONE IS READY TO GO, WHICH IS THE GARDENS.
SO THERE WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROPORTIONAL, FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT.
ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS PAY THE ROAD FEES, GET IT DONE.
SO THEY WANT TO SPEND A BLANK CHECK.
THIS ONE, WE'RE IN A BETTER SHAPE.
THIS ONE, THERE IS NO GAP CATCHING IT RIGHT ALL THE TIME.
WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A MODEL FOR THE FUTURE.
SO FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING PROCESSED FOR APPROVAL, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE ON HOLD UNTIL YOU GET THIS MODEL DONE OR ARE WE GOING INTO THESE AGREEMENTS? HOLD ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THESE THINGS MOVING AS FAST AS I CAN.
I JUMPED ON THIS, GOT OUR CONSULTANTS.
I'M GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE JULY 7TH BEST I CAN RIGHT NOW.
THE WORST THING RIGHT NOW IS I'M WAITING FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO APPROVE THE FUNDING.
THAT'S THE ONLY MECHANISM. I ALREADY GOT THE TWO PROPOSALS FROM THE CONSULTANTS.
SO IF SHE GIVES ME THE GREEN TO GO, IT WILL GO FOR THE JULY 7TH COUNCIL MEETING THEIR APPROVAL.
AND SO AFTER THAT, THEN I'LL GET THE CONSULTANTS TO NOTICE THE PROCEDURE OR NOT SO MUCH TO PUT IT ON HOLD, BUT THE SAME WAY HOW YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO PROACTIVELY DO THAT PROPORTIONATELY. YOU KNOW, THE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT, ARE YOU ALL ABLE TO DO THAT OR IMPLEMENT THAT WITH THE PROJECTS OR THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS? AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS AREA HAD A MODEL ALREADY DEVELOPED WITH THAT BREAKDOWN THAT HELPED US OUT.
AND THEN THE SOUTHWEST HERE, I'M GOING TO HAVE A FUTURE MODEL THAT FORWARD FROM THIS POINT ON.
ON THIS SIDE, THE SOUTHEAST, I THINK WE'RE AT THE RIGHT POINT.
NORTHWEST. I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT'S NOT REALLY THE POINT WHERE WE MISSED THE BOAT AND THERE'S A HUGE GAP.
THERE MAY BE A GAP, BUT IT'S NOT THAT LARGE BECAUSE IT IS.
AND WHEN I CAME HERE IN 2018, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
WHAT'S YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THAT? I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AND THEY BROUGHT ME UP TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO TRAFFIC. THEY WANT THIS THING TO MOVE FORWARD AND I'M GOING TO DO THE BEST I CAN.
I BELIEVE THEY JUST WANTED TO SEE THE NUMBERS MORE THEY'RE SEEING.
TRAFFIC IS A HUGE ISSUE AS DEVELOPMENTS ARE GETTING APPROVED.
SO THIS IS TRYING TO TAP ON THE BRAKES.
SO WHAT DOES WHAT ARE LARGE PROJECTS DESCRIBED AS? I BELIEVE LARGE PROJECTS WOULD BE PWDS ANY LARGE FEATURE PODS THAT GENERATE LARGE, LARGE AMOUNTS OF TRIPS.
BUT AGAIN, THE WAY I LOOK AT TRIPS IS TRIPS.
SO I'VE DONE ENOUGH TRIP ANALYSIS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS MODEL OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS YOU GOING TO LET THE WALMART SNEAK THROUGH AND THEN THE PORK TACO BILL AS IT COMES IN, IT DOES VERY LITTLE PASS BY TRIPS. IT SLAMMED WITH THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THEN.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO AVOID.
IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR SHARE FOR EVERYBODY.
UNLESS THE CITY HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, A TOOL LIKE A REAL MODEL THAT PROJECTS OUT, JUST LIKE CHRIS LITTLE HAS HIS UTILITY MODELS TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WATER AND SEWER HE NEEDS. WE NEED TO HAVE THIS TRAFFIC MODEL.
AND TIMES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH, IT'S NOT VERY.
COST EFFECTIVE TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE MODEL, YOU NEED TO HAVE VERY TRAINED.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE MY YOUNGER DAYS ARE IN CALL THE TRANSPLANT MODEL.
CURRENT MODEL HERE IS A CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING MODEL, WHICH IS A Q MODEL.
I COULDN'T EVEN START. I MEAN, IT'S SO OUT THERE IN LEFT FIELD.
YOU NEED AN EXPERT TO RUN THOSE MODELS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO HIRE CONSULTANTS.
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WHAT DEFINES A LARGE PROJECT AND WHAT DOESN'T? AGAIN, THAT COULD BE MORE OF A GROWTH MANAGEMENT.IN OTHER, IT'S GOT TO BE VETTED OUT TO THAT PROCESS.
HAD A QUESTION. I JUST FIGURED REFRESH MY MEMORY HERE.
THAT'S THE POPPY RV PARK CAMPGROUND, CORRECT? OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
THAT'S THAT ONE. THAT'S IT'S A SMALL IT'S IT'S AN RV, BUT IT'S A I CALL THEM THE CLASS ONE.
NOTHING AGAINST IT. BUT I'M SAYING THEY'RE THE MILLION DOLLAR RVS AND THEY BUY.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THEM.
AND DOWN SOUTH WHERE THEY'RE EXECUTIVE OR CLASS A RV PARKS AND LITERALLY FOR THE RICH BECAUSE THEY'RE DRIVING THESE MOTORHOMES AND THE CAMPSITES, THE CAMPSITES ARE THEY'RE NICE.
YEAH. SHELTERS HAVE A LITTLE BARBECUE PIT, BUT IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT A CAMPGROUND.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A CAMPGROUND.
ALMOST LIKE LIKE A HIGH END APARTMENT COMPLEX.
YOU'RE LIVING OUT OF YOUR A CLASS A LUXURY MOTOR HOME AND.
CAMPGROUNDS ARE NICE, EXTREMELY NICE.
CAMPSITES ARE SEPARATE FROM THE PARK.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE CITIES ALSO PLANNING TO BUILD ONE INSIDE FRED.
FRED, POPPY PARK IS KIND OF LIKE A CAVE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SO THIS IS TWO SEPARATE.
THIS WOULD BE SEPARATE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I HAD ASKED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN AREA TO PULL INTO THEY AND HAVE SOME MAYBE SOME SOME FEATURES THERE.
WHAT I'M SAYING LIKE RESTROOMS AND WATER AND STUFF.
AND MAYBE HE'S LOOKING AT HAVING SOME CONNECTIONS, LIKE DOING WATER.
SO YOU CAN'T SEE YOUR NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN I MEAN, I MEAN, THEY HAVE LIKE NOT JUST CAMPFIRES.
THEY HAVE LIKE A KITCHEN THERE WITH A BARBECUE KIT AND MICROWAVE AND REFRIGERATOR.
LITERALLY. IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE CLASS.
IT'S LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
YOU GO AND THEY SUPPLY IT WITH FOOD.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU ORDER YOUR FOOD AND THEY'LL HAVE IT IN THERE READY FOR YOU TO USE.
AND THEY HAVE CLEANING SERVICES.
SO IT'S IT'S A TOP END FOR RV PARK.
THE ONE THAT FRED'S DOING THAT HE'D SAY IS LIKE A CAKE.
YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE IT, AND THESE TWO ARE GOING TO BE SIDE BY SIDE.
NO, THEY'RE ACROSS THE STREET.
TO ME, IT WOULD BE SIDE BY SIDE.
BUT MY MY THING IS, IS THIS THREE FOLKS DEVELOPMENT? THIS PRIOR TO THE POPPY CAMPGROUND BEING DISCUSSED OR DID THEY COME IN AFTER THE FACT? I THINK THEY CAME IN AFTER THE FACT, BUT I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET A SEPARATE MARKET.
AGAIN, THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET THE HIRE AND SAY THE CLASS A RVS.
FRED'S COULD TAKE THAT. BUT IF YOU HAVE A CLASS, SAY YOU HAVE A PORTION.
NOT GOING TO DRIVE IT IN THE DIRT, YOU KNOW.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE CLASSES.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO DRIVE THEIR RVS, THEIR LUXURY RV.
AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL SPACE THERE AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE THE STELLA KASEYA ANOTHER ACCESS POINT AS WELL.
HAVE NOW NOT COMING ON TO OUR ROAD, BUT COME ON TO ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THAT'LL TURN ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY FROM A THREE WAY SIGNAL TO A FOUR WASTE SINGLE.
MEANING WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, TOO.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ONE, TOO.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WESTON COMMERCIAL WISE.
DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY FORM OF CONVERSATION WITH THEM THAT DETERMINES WHAT STORES OR WHAT'S COMING IN AS FAR AS THE COMMERCIAL GOES OR THEY HANDLE LIKE THEIR OWN LEASING? I THINK THEY HAVE WHEN THEY DO PRE APPS, THEY HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE.
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BUT I THINK THEY HAD THOSE EARLY DISCUSSIONS.I KNOW, RIGHT? AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ASKING, I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP, BUT OUR UTILITY DIRECTOR MADE A PROMISE AT LEAST AUGUST TO SEPTEMBER, HE'LL HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.
IT'S GREAT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
NUMBER TWO. BEAT ON ROAD PAVING AND PIPE PLACEMENTS.
SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN OUR ROAD PAVING PROGRAM.
THE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWN HERE ARE PAVING IN UNIT 20.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU OVERALL, THE WHOLE PROGRAM AGAIN, IS FIVE PHASES, EIGHT YEARS.
AND HERE'S WHAT'S SHOWN IN TERMS OF THE FIVE PHASES AND THE TOTAL MILES.
AND AGAIN, THE TOTAL MILES FOR THE BOND WAS 791 MILES.
THAT IS NOT THE TOTAL MILES OF ROADS WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE MORE LIKE SIX, 860 MILES.
AGAIN, THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE COMPOUND, WHICH IS UNITS 51, 52 AND 53.
THOSE ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE ORIGINAL BOND PROCESS.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL MILES.
BUT 791, WHICH WAS THE APPROVED WITH THE ROAD BOND.
RIGHT NOW, THE BASIC ONE IS THE MILL AND PAY.
WE DO THIN LIFT OVERLAYS, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT BETWEEN AN INCH, AN INCH AND A HALF.
THAT MEANS WE JUST LAY THE ASPHALT RIGHT ON TOP OF THE ROADWAY.
AGAIN, THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE ESCALATING COSTS, COST MATERIALS AND THEN TECHNOLOGY IS EXPANDING IN TERMS OF FINDING AGGREGATE AND THEN BETTER WHAT THEY CALL THE POLYMER AND BETTER BINDER MIXES THE POLYMERS IS WHAT MAKES THE ASPHALT BIND IN STRENGTH.
TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, MOST FOR EXAMPLE, MOST PARKING LOTS OR SMALL DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY USE LIKE APOLLO OR MEXICAN, LIKE A 48 OR 52 OR 56.
SO THAT'S HIGHEST IN POLYMER MIX.
YOU GET A 78, BUT I TRY TO GO WITH THE HIGHEST IT GIVES US LONGEVITY GIVES US THAT 20 YEAR LEASE BECAUSE THIS IS A NICE SMOOTH SURFACE, BUT THAT'S WHAT FTI IS LOOKING AT, NOT EVEN A THINNER.
SO THAT WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
THE LAST ONE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T REALLY GONE INTO MUCH, WHICH WOULD BE A FULL RECONSTRUCTION WHERE WE COULDN'T DO THE AFTER YOU TAKE OUT ALL THE MATERIAL AND THEN WE START FROM SCRATCH, WE STABILIZE THE SUB BASE MATERIAL, WE BRING IT EITHER EIGHT INCHES OR TEN INCHES BASED ON THE TYPE OF ROADWAY.
AND THEN WE PUT A TWO INCH ASPHALT ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S THE HIGHEST COST, BASICALLY, BECAUSE IT'S BUILDING A WHOLE NEW ROAD.
TYPICALLY, WHAT WE DO BECAUSE I HATE TO SAY IT BECAUSE PALM BAY IS A HIGH WATER WATER TABLE AREA, WE'RE FORCED TO GO WITH THE FULL DEPTH BECAUSE I NEED THE CEMENT I CAN'T BUILD.
YOU CAN PACK IT DOWN, IT PACK DOWN BECAUSE OF THE WATER.
SO WE'RE STUCK A LOT OF TIMES USING FDR BECAUSE OF THE CEMENT.
JUST KIND OF LIKE THE TREATMENTS WE HAVE STATUS OR A ROAD PROGRAM.
JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A NUTSHELL.
WE'RE PROBABLY MORE LIKE 35% NOW BECAUSE RANGERS ARE WORKING AWAY IN UNIT 20.
PHASE TWO, WE'RE ABOUT 60%, COMPLETE WITH ABOUT 128 MILES COMPLETED.
PHASE TWO, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN UNIT 20.
WE HAVE ABOUT 50% OF ALL THE PAVING COMPLETED MOVING ALONG.
SOON AFTER THAT, THEY'LL JUMP INTO 48.
WE CURRENTLY THE NEXT ONE TO BE ADVERTISED AS A ROAD PROJECT, WHAT I CALL THE KINECT.
MALABAR ROAD. YOU SHOULD BE FROM BABCOCK ALL THE WAY TO US ONE.
THAT'S THE LAST MAJOR CORRIDOR IN THAT SECTION, WHAT WE CALL THE NORTHEAST SECTION.
WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE OF THE UNITS, BUT THAT'S THE MAJOR ROADWAY.
PHASE 348 WAS AWARDED THIS RANGER.
THEY'RE FINISHING UP UNIT 20 AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START IN ABOUT JULY 11TH.
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I GOT THE CONFIRMATION.IT WILL START TO. THE REASON WHY THIS HAS BEEN DELAYED IS BECAUSE RANGER IS UNABLE TO GET CEMENT.
THERE WAS A VERY LIMITED SUPPLY OF CEMENT AND A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO.
SO ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND THESE CONTRACTORS ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME LOCKING IN CEMENT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE TRYING TO HELP RANGER, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
KIND OF PUSHED THEM OUT. BUT THEY HAVE COMMITTED RIGHT NOW TO START JULY 11TH.
YEAH. WE'LL BE CLOSING AMAZON FOR A WHILE.
WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN WE START THAT.
THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE LAST PROJECT THEY WANT TO DO.
NOW THE INTERSECTION OF EMERSON AND MALABAR IS DEFICIENT.
I'M GOING TO GO OUT THERE JULY 11TH.
I'M HOPING TO SCHEDULE AN INSPECTION WITH OUR CONTRACTORS.
HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD, THEN WE'LL DO THE REST.
REMEMBER, I ONLY DID 1000 FEET.
I WANT TO DO THE REST OF MALABAR ROAD AND THEN I CAN PAVE THE WHOLE ROAD.
SO, ALISON, WE'VE BEEN WAITING. REMEMBER, THIS IS THE EIGHTH STAY AT THE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS GOING TO BE TIED TO THAT PROJECT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE PROJECTS WORKING ON BE HEADS UP, CONTINUE BACK WITH THE ROAD PROJECTS AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ADVERTISEMENT NOW EMERSON DRIVE FROM AMADOR, WHICH IS JUST BY THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, THE JUPITER THAT OPENS UP THAT CLOSES TOMORROW, OPEN BIDS ON WEDNESDAY.
SO THAT'S A NEW ONE. READY TO GO UNIT PHASE THREE UNITS, 1314 IS ALREADY DESIGNED.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD, MADAM OSMOSIS.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARS THIS.
THE REASON WHY IT WASN'T PART OF UNIT 30 IS BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE GEOTECHNICAL.
WE HAD A CHANGE IN GEOTECHNICAL.
SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING NEW PERSONS AND NEW VEHICLES TO KIND OF GIVE US THE MIXES, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE NOW, SO WE SHOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT READY TO GO. BUT THEY'LL BE TIED TO UNITS 13 AND 14, PHASE FOUR.
OUR UNITS ARE SCHEDULED AGAIN, WHICH IS 644, 45, 50, 55.
ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN DESIGNED ALMOST CLOSE TO 100 MILES OF ROADWAY.
WE'RE HOLDING OFF AND REEVALUATING THOSE COSTS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE ESCALATING ASPHALT AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AS I OPEN BIDS UP AND I GET NEW BIDS AND NEW DOLLARS, WILL THEN REEVALUATE FUTURE ENGINEERING COSTS.
I'VE HEARD AS HIGH AS $300 A TON.
THE CURRENT PRICE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR THE BISBEE OPEN FOR UNIT 30 WAS $163 A TON.
OUR CONTRACTORS ARE STAYING WITH US, NOT RAISING THEIR PRICES LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE.
THEY KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK THEY KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO TRY TO BE COMPETITIVE.
SO OUR LAST BID FOR UNITS 38 COST PER TON WAS $163 A TON.
THAT SHOCKED ME. I KNOW FOR A FACT BACK THERE IT'S BEEN $200 A TON, EVEN $300 A TON IN OTHER PLACES.
I THINK IN THE LAST MEETING YOU SAY THAT THEY WERE BELOW EVERYBODY ELSE.
THEY WERE STICKING WITH US AND IT WAS ONLY ABOUT 120, 163.
THEN IT AVERAGED OUT TO ABOUT $120 A TON.
THAT STAYED FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
IT SLOWLY STARTED CREEPING UP AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, IT JUMPED.
SO IT'S CURRENT PRICE IS ABOUT $160 A TON.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THE STREET FROM RANGE IS TELLING ME RIGHT NOW THEY CHARGE 180 TO $200 A TON.
I'VE HAD OTHER ENGINEERS TELLING ME FOR SMALL PARKING, LOTS OF SMALL PROJECTS, $300 A TON.
I JUST KNOW FOR UNIT 30, WHICH WE OPENED UP TWO WEEKS AGO, IT WAS $163 A TON.
WHAT, EMERSON? BETWEEN AMADOR AND JUPITER COMES OUT TO BE.
I'M HOPING WE GET A GOOD CONTRACT HERE, BUT.
BUT I COULD TELL THE CONTRACTORS WHO ARE VERY COMPETITIVE, THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THAT SAME RANGE.
WE HAVE ONLY SIX CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN CONTINUALLY BEING THE SAME AUDITORS.
SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF ROAD PAVING.
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THEY'RE STAYING COMPETITIVE.BUT YOU HIGHLIGHT. SO THAT'S THE YEAR TO 2020.
A MAJORITY OF ALL OF THIS IS JUST BASICALLY OVERLAYS RIGHT NOW.
THEY'LL SOON GO INTO MIDDLE AND PAVE AND THEN THEY HAVE A SMALL PIECE OF OF JUPITER THAT THEY'LL DO.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE WHOLE BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE PROJECTS, WHAT'S SHOWN IN KIND OF LIKE THE YELLOW AND THE KIND OF LIKE THE PINKISH COLOR IN THE MIDDLE, YOU CAN SEE THE UNITS 2048, THOSE ARE ALREADY OUT. THE CONSTRUCTION 30, WE JUST OPENED THE BID AND THEN EMERSON SAINT JOHN'S WAS AMADOR AMADOR TO.
YEAH. JUST A MINUTE. WE'LL OPEN THAT BED ON WEDNESDAY, SO I'LL HAVE ESTIMATES.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATES BELOW, ABOVE ALL THE REAL PROJECTS COMPLETED.
SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU A WHOLE NUTSHELL.
WHAT'S LEFT IS WHAT'S SHOWN HERE.
AND THIS IS WHAT'S LEFT OF UNITS.
I HAVEN'T ADDED UNIT FOUR ON HERE.
UNIT FOUR IS WHAT WE SHOWED BEFORE.
AGAIN, THOSE UNITS 644, 45, 50, 55 TOTALING THIS ONE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE YOUR PHASE FIVE, WHICH HAS THE MOST UNITS AT THE END.
WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED THE PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT UNIT 16.
SO ONLY DONE ONE UNIT OF ALL THE REMAINING UNITS.
WE DO NEED TO IDENTIFY BETTER TREATMENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO USE MICRO SURFACING, THINNER LIFT.
MAYBE SOME REDUCTIONS IN FIGURES IN UNIT 49, WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS BACK TO COUNCIL.
AND BEFORE I TAKE IT BACK TO COUNCIL, I'LL GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR UNIT.
ESTIMATED PROJECTS TO BE COMPLETED ABOUT $98 MILLION OR 98.6.
THAT NEEDS A TOTAL EXPENDITURE OF $169 MILLION, OR ABOUT $170 MILLION.
SO THE DIFFERENCE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 19.8.
AND JUST REMIND US LAST MEETING.
IF YOU TAKE OUT 49, WHICH IS ABOUT $60 MILLION, IS IT THAT MUCH? THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
THE ESTIMATE I GAVE COUNCIL WAS IF YOU TOOK OUT 49 AND WE ALREADY DO.
MADDEN AND OSMOSIS, BUT YOU DON'T DO 49, YOU SAVE YOURSELF A GOOD $16 MILLION OR EVEN MORE.
I MEAN, AGAIN, BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 100 HOMES.
THE DAUGHTER OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION DON'T WANT IT PAID.
IT CAME IN, SAY WE DON'T WANT TO REPAVE.
THERE'S NOT EVEN ANY HOMES AND HALF THE STREETS.
UNLESS YOU'VE GONE OUT THERE, YOU CAN'T DRIVE ON THOSE ROADS.
I MEAN, THE LAST TIME I WENT UP THERE, I COULDN'T GET THE TRUCK THROUGH.
AND THEN IF YOU DID GET THROUGH, IT'S I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE REFRIGERATORS AND BOATS AND CARS.
AND I MEAN I MEAN I MEAN, YOU GO IN LIKE A JUNKYARD.
YOU JUST KIND OF GO, WHOA, WHAT IS ALL THIS STUFF BACK HERE? I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A SIGNIFICANT COST TO GET ALL THAT MATERIAL OUT OF THERE, BECAUSE AS YOU OPEN THE ROADS AND CLEAR THE ROADS, YOU'VE GOT TO GET RID OF IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THAT JUNK.
HE'S BEEN DUMPING JUNK BACK THERE FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME.
SO WITH ALL THOSE FACTORS INVOLVED.
IT'LL BE A CHALLENGE FOR ROSE TO HAVE NOBODY LIVING ON HIM.
AND AS YOU SEE HERE, THERE'S A 19.8 DEFICIT.
AND THAT'S THE THAT'S PHASE FIVE.
THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY LIVES RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THOSE PEOPLE BE VOCAL.
YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY GOING BACK AND SEE ALL THE PINK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEART OF THE CITY.
NOW, YOU KNOW, 49 AGAIN, WHAT DOES THAT DO?
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I KNOW MAYBE YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS, BUT I KNOW THE COUNCIL TALKS A LOT ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE.WHAT DOES THAT DO TO RESPONSE TIMES? GOING OUT THAT WAY IF THEY HAD TO.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR POLICE AND FIRE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STATIONED DOWN.
THERE IS NOT THE BEST IF YOU CALL IT A STATION.
I WAS A FIREFIGHTER. SO I RESPECT FIREMEN.
IT WAS STRUCTURE. WHAT THE HECK? I MEAN, I SEE THESE TRAILERS AND I KIND OF GO, HOLY MOLY.
I MEAN, I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT LIVING IN A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, BUT THEY FIXED IT UP.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAD A GARAGE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A FIRE STATION.
BILL IS BASICALLY SOMEONE'S HOUSE.
THEY CONVERTED TO A FIRE STATION.
THEY'VE GOT A CHEAP. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT.
AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE STATION WHERE BILL CHICKEN IS.
SO THEIR RESPONSE TIME, I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY LIMITED ALREADY BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY ENOUGH OF 30 AND 31 AND 32, 31 AND 32 HAS, I THINK DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THEM HOUSING THAT AREA.
TODAY, YOU CAN'T FIND A STREET IN 31 OR 32 THAT DOESN'T HAVE A DOZEN HOMES ALREADY BUILT ON IT.
SO THAT'S INCREASED POLICE AND FIRE IN THAT AREA.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE FIRE STATION.
SO THAT RESTRICTS OUR SERVICES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.
THAT'S CORRECT. HIS NAME IS HORACE.
IT'S A SHARED PARAMEDIC UNIT WITH THE COUNTY.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY ON SCHOOL PROPERTY, TOO.
SO ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S NOT EVEN ON OUR PROPERTY.
RESPONSE, TIMES POINTED OUT, WAS STRETCH IT OUT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF WE HAD TO BE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU BUILD ROADS, HOMES COME.
SO THAT'S A LOT. THAT'S A HUGE RESPONSE.
QUESTION. JUST HIGHLIGHT JUST THE TOP IN STORM WATER.
YOU NO. THAT WAS CLOSE FOR SUCH A TREMENDOUS TIME.
SORRY. MY, MY COUNTERPART, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T MY PROJECT, BUT MY COUNTERPART HAD CHALLENGES.
SO BUT FINALLY OPEN TRACTOR JUST RECENTLY OPEN TO THAT WAS A BIG BOX.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE REMEMBER THAT FREEHOLD WATERBURY.
THE SPEED FEEDBACK THAT WAS REOPENED.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE COUNTRY CLUB PILOTS.
THEY HAVE ANOTHER 50 DAYS TO CLOSE OUT THEIR PROJECT.
FUTURE PIPE PROJECTS ARE UNITS 22 AND 30, WHICH IS 31.
AND I KNOW FOR A FACT, OTHER UNITS I JUST APPROVED REVIEWED UNITS, 44 PIPES THAT HAS OVER 90 PIPES.
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I JUST REVIEWED IT TODAY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT ONE READY TO HIT THE STREETS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THESE PIPE PROJECTS OUT AS A PROJECT.
LAST ONE WE'RE WORKING ON, WHICH IS THE BIG PROJECT, IS WALDEN AT 342.
YOU GOT THE PERMIT? NOW WE NEED TO GET TO ST JOHN'S.
LET'S JUST GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF ALL THE PIPE PROJECTS.
SO THERE'S TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THE ROAD PROJECT.
THESE PIPES CONTROLLED THE PAVING PROJECT.
NOT EVEN A UNIT THAT DOESN'T HAVE PIPES.
SO THAT PRETTY MUCH COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.
THAT IS SANFILIPPO. I'M SERIOUS.
THAT'S A SOUTHERN PORTION OF SANFILIPPO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT.
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BUT DURING CONSTRUCTION OF MY INSPECTORS, THEY'RE NOT THE NICEST PEOPLE.YOU KNOW, THE ROAD IS TORN APART FOR MONTHS, YOU KNOW.
BUT EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NICE, GOOD ROAD THAT'LL LAST YOU 20 YEARS PERFECTLY.
WHEN WE REJUVENATE IT, THIS WILL PROBABLY LAST ANOTHER 30 TO 40 YEARS.
WE'LL GIVE YOU GUYS THE BANG FOR THE BUCK.
AS MY PRESENTATION IN THE OTHER QUESTIONS.
AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REVENUE FROM EXCESS PROPERTY.
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
THE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED, I THINK IT WAS THE LAST MEETING ABOUT MOVING THE PORTABLE STOPLIGHT FROM THE SOUTH INTERCHANGE AREA OUT TO JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IN MALABAR.
I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD A BETTER FEELING AT THE TIME FRAME OF THAT.
AND THE THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE IS A VERBAL AGREEMENT.
AND JUST JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I EMAILED THE COUNTY BECAUSE PEOPLE KEPT SAYING NO.
IT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT I HAD.
THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER, SHERMAN, THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER, THEY WERE AT THAT MEETING TOO.
WE HAD A DISCUSSION AND JOHN DANILOFF MADE A.
UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE CONTINUE FORWARD WITH BABCOCK STREET WIDENING AND IF WE HAVE TO THEN TAKE DOWN THE TEMPORARY SPAN WHERE OUR SIGNAL THAT WE PUT UP THERE AT BABCOCK AT THE PARKWAY, HOW ABOUT MOVING THAT OVER HERE TO MALABAR PARKWAY? THAT'S A DEAL, JOHN.
YOU GIVE ME THE OK, WE'LL DO IT CLOSE.
WE OPEN BIDS FOR THE WIDENING AT BABCOCK ON WEDNESDAY.
ONCE WE GET AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME GOOD CONTRACTORS THAT ARE ALL EXCITED TO DO THAT PROJECT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT ROADWAY COMPLETED BY DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, DECEMBER 31, 2023.
IT HAS TO BE A PERMANENT SIGNAL, MAST AND POLES.
SO THE LAST THING THEY'LL DO WOULD BE TO ACTIVATE THE NEW SIGNAL AND TAKE DOWN THE SIGNAL, RELOCATE THAT OLD SIGNAL OVER HERE IN THE MALABAR AND JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S UP TO SPEED. I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE COUNTY TRAFFIC, PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO OPENING OUR BIDS.
WHAT'S THE GAME PLAN HERE? AND SO FAR EVERYBODY IS SAYING, HERE'S WHAT I NEED, HERE'S WHAT I NEED.
NOBODY IS SAYING WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE SAYING, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED.
SO I THINK EVERYBODY IS STILL UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT.
THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH THEIR ASSISTANTS, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JOHN DANILOFF IS STILL GOOD.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS OUT SOME.
IN THE MEANTIME, SCHOOL STARTS BACK UP IN AUGUST.
YEAH. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE LOTS OF DEVELOPMENTS AND IT NEEDS TO I WOULD LIKE TO ACCELERATE IT, BUT I CAN'T PULL THAT TEMPORARY SIGNAL DOWN THERE UNTIL THE PERMANENT ONE IS BUILT DOWN THERE AT BABCOCK AND PARKWAY.
AND AS MUCH AS THIS ONE HERE IS NEEDED, SO IS THAT ONE DOWN THERE BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC? YOU'D BE SURPRISED BECAUSE OF THE ROCK QUARRY THAT'S SOUTH ON A TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT'S DOWN THERE, PLUS ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON WITH ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS BEING BUILT.
AND AS SOON AS THAT NEW INTERSECTION IS COMPLETED WITH THE.
BALLS AMASSED ON THE TEMPORARY SWING WILL BE TAKEN DOWN.
LAST THING I HAD WAS MORE TO UPDATE THE BOARD ON THE PRESENTATION.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO.
I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN PHIL FILBERTO AND I TALKED TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR ABOUT IT.
THE DEPUTY MAYOR GRABBED THAT BALL AND RAN WITH IT.
MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S BEEN SOME TALKS BETWEEN THE CITY AND SCOTT AND.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ONE MORE QUESTION. I KNOW THAT LAST TIME YOU MENTIONED, I GUESS PROGRAMING THE LIGHTS OF MALABAR.
I'M NOT ONE TO JUST KIND OF GET A STATUS ON THAT.
GIVE YOU A HEADS UP. THE PROGRAM OF MARLBORO IS BEING FUNDED TO THE TPO.
THEY GAVE US, I THINK, SIX OR 700,000.
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WE GAVE THAT CONTRACT TO FGA AND THEY'RE DESIGNING IT FOR US, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT THE SYSTEM WILL EVENTUALLY TIE IT TO THE SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD BE THE COUNTY AND FAULT SYSTEM. SO WE'LL BE TIED AS ONE LARGE UNIT.BUT THE OVERALL INTENT WOULD BE TO HAVE ALL OUR CONTROLLERS COMMUNICATED AND CONNECTED WITH FIBER.
RIGHT NOW, ALL OUR NONE OF OUR SIGNALS ARE CONNECTED.
ALL OF OUR SIGNALS RUN INDEPENDENTLY.
AND THAT'S KIND OF SHOCKED PRECEDED THE SIZE.
SO IT'LL SYNC THE TIMES BASICALLY WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
SO RIGHT NOW, AS YOU DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD NEXT TO YOU, GET A GREEN LIGHT.
THERE'S NOT A CAR ON THE RED LIGHT AND THERE'S NOT A CAR ON THE SIDE.
SO YOU WONDER WHY? BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO FIX TIME.
CYCLE'S NEW SYSTEM WILL BE RUNNING IN A COORDINATED SINGLE TIMING.
AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL HAVE CAMERAS AS WELL.
STATE OF THE ART CONTROLLERS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO.
CHANGE THE TIMINGS MORE RAPIDLY THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS SIX TIMES.
THAT'S THE DESIGN PHASE WITH F2.
I'VE DONE A PRELIMINARY, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED FOR HARD WORK EQUIPMENT PROTOCOL.
WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING AFTER.
IT SAYS KIND OF HIGH END, BUT BECAUSE IT'S FLAT, WE WANT TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE REGION.
SO WE'LL BE TIED INTO THE 95, THE COUNTIES, MALABAR ROAD, ALL THE WAY TO ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
WOW. A FIVE LINE THE ENTIRE LENGTH.
A DESIGN FULLY FUNDED THIS YEAR SHOULD BE COMPLETED SOMETIME NEXT YEAR.
TPO SAYS IN 2023 OR 2024, BRING THAT UP FOR CONSTRUCTION.
CONSTRUCTION OF THIS TYPE IS NOT THAT HARD.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDERGROUND FIBER CABINET REPLACEMENTS, NEW CONTROLLERS.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BILLIONS, BUT THERE'S SOME DOLLARS ASSOCIATED.
THEY SAID THEY WILL HELP FUND THAT PHASE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE MALABAR ROAD, WHERE THEY SEE IT IS A BELIEVER ROUTE OR IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES, IN CASE OF INCIDENT ON FIVE, THEN JUMP ON MALABAR ROAD.
EMERGENCY CORRIDOR TO GO DOWN TO MILTON ROAD OR GO DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE PARKWAY.
SO THEY LIKE TO HAVE THESE SAME INCIDENT ROADWAYS SO THEY CAN GET THEM OFF THE FREEWAY, PUT THEM ONTO A MAJOR ROADWAY, SYNC THEM UP, MAYBE HAVE SOME TROUBLE SIGNS THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE ON TO THE ROADS OR CONTINUE ON TO GUIDE PEOPLE TO GO TO ANOTHER CORRIDOR THAT'LL BE PARALLEL TO ON 95.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY'RE PROMOTING OUR ROADWAY TIMING PROJECT.
IN SCIENCE FULLY FUNDED OPTICAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDED BY THE TPO IN ABOUT 2023, 2024.
AND THEN THAT WILL GO OUT TO CONSTRUCTION AGAIN.
SO WE'RE WE'RE THE ONLY ONES GETTING THIS.
ABOUT TIME WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN NOTHING.
I THINK APPLY TO US OR WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO, BUT SOMETHING SO WE CAN IMPROVE OUR BUS STOPS.
YOU HAVE TO BE A TRANSIT AGENCY.
WE GOT PRETTY PARTNERED, REMEMBER? THEY'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT PARTNERING AND MAYBE THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR COUNCIL.
NOTHING. THE BUSSES ARE NOTHING.
IT'S THE COST TO RUN THE BUSSES.
BUT TO PLAN IT, TO OPERATE IT, THAT'S YOUR COST.
AS AN AGENCY. BUT I DON'T I'M NOT SURE HOW SOME WHERE I LIVE.
DO YOU HAVE A ROAD AGENCY THAT WHERE THE MILEAGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SET TO ZERO? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TRANSIT WORKS.
THE FEDERAL DOLLARS COMES WITH A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY.
WE GET OUR MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY GAS TAX.
TRANSIT GETS THEIR MONEY THROUGH A TRANSIT TAX.
TAXATION. THEY SHARE THAT WITH RAIL AND THEY SHARE THAT WITH OTHER TRANSIT USES.
OTHER RAIL FEDERAL HIGHWAY HAS RAIL MONEY AND TRANSIT MONEY.
HOW TRANSIT. I'M NOT SURE HOW.
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ONE OTHER THOUGHT IS IF THEY DO THIS GAS TAX HOLIDAY OR LOW LOCAL OPTION, GAS TAX MONEY IS ALREADY DEDICATED FUNDING FOR A BOND.JUST. THE LOW MONEY BOND STILL HAS TO BE PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
SO JUST. I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SUSPENDING THE GAS TAX OF $0.18.
BUT. AT THE PEAK OF OUR BOND MONEY THAT WE PROMISED.
OUT OF THAT MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
AND WE STILL WON'T GET. HELLO, JT.
NONE OF ALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT.
OH. AGENDA REQUEST FOR A FUTURE MEETING.
SORRY. I THOUGHT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WERE DOING THERE.
SO ANY SUGGESTIONS OR REQUEST? AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, I DID TALK TO THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR, CHRIS LITTLE.
THAT'S BOTH THE PLANTS AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
HOPEFULLY HE'LL COMMIT TO THAT AND GET US SOMEONE HERE EITHER IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.
AND SINCE THEN, THEN PATRICK WENT BECAUSE PATRICK WAS THE NEXT KNOWLEDGEABLE GUY.
SO MANY MEETINGS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO BURDEN HIM.
NOW WE HAVE ALL NEW STAFF THAT REALLY ARE JUST STILL IN THE LEARNING, YOU KNOW? SO THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF THE CITY.
I KNOW THE DIRECTOR. SHE'S GREAT.
THIS IS A LARGER SEBASTIAN LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, AS A GDC.
SWALES PROBLEMS HAVE PLANNING, YOU KNOW? SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM A BREAK RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH ON THEIR PLATES RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M GOING TO HOPEFULLY MAYBE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AS THEY GET COMFORTABLE.
THEY HIRED A NEW PLANNER, I HEARD.
SO I'M TRYING TO GET CHRIS LITTLE FIRST.
SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT REALLY CHIMES IN WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
GROWTH IS, YOU KNOW, WE START STEPPING ON EACH.
BUT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO AGAIN ONCE HAVE STAFF, HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK THEM TO HAVE SOME.
I HAVE ON MY PLATE WAS TO HAVE A LITTLE GIVE A PRESENTATION AS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BEING DONE? I'LL CALL. THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 1954.
THANK YOU. UM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.