Jul 06, 2022 Planning and Zoning Board

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING JULY 6TH IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

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MR. BOEREMA PRESIDENT.

MR. GOOD. MISS JORDAN PRESIDENT.

MR. RAJ HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED.

MR. OLSZEWSKI.

MR. WARNER HAS TO BE EXCUSED.

MR. WEINBERG PRESIDENT.

MR. KARAFFA HAVE NOT HEARD FROM.

AND OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, ERIC MESSAGER, IS PRESENT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]

2022. SECOND.

A MOTION BY MR. WEINBERG, SECONDED BY MR. MINKOWSKI. ALL IN FAVOR, I.

WHAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THE BENEFIT OF THE APPLICANTS AND THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.

BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL THEN BE ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT AN INFORMATION TO THE CASE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE WILL FIRST HEAR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION IN THOSE IN OPPOSITION OR ALL PROCEEDINGS.

ALL APPLICANTS AND SPEAKERS FROM THE AUDIENCE MUST SIGN A SPEAKER OATH CARD LOCATED AT THE PODIUM AND AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.

AS A COURTESY, I ASK THAT IF THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO MAY HAVE SIMILAR COMMENTS, INFORMALLY APPOINT A SPOKESMAN TO CLARIFY YOUR VIEWS.

AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.

THIS TIME THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.

I WILL THEN CALL FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I WILL THEN CALL FOR A VOTE.

DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ARE THEN FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DISPOSITION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE, FOR YOUR COOPERATION AND HEARING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.

NOW. OUR FIRST CASE, PLEASE.

[OLD/UNFINISHED BUSINESS:]

16 2022 HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO CONTINUE TO THE AUGUST 3RD MEETING.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE? MOTION TO CONTINUE.

FDE 16 2022 TO AUGUST 3RD.

SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, MADAM CHAIR, JUST, JUST BRIEFLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO INQUIRE HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS PARTICULAR CASE BEING CONTINUED? GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT.

A LITTLE BIT. THERE IT IS.

I'LL SPEAK LOUDER. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS TWO OR THREE TIMES THAT IT'S BEEN CONTINUED.

IT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

THE APPLICANT HAS MADE APPLICATION.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IS STALLING THIS IS THAT THEY ARE WAITING FOR ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS TO BE SUBMITTED, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'VE ASKED FOR THE CONTINUANCE.

SAID. NOW, MADAM CHAIR, FOR MY CLARIFICATION, IS THERE ANY SORT OF POLICY OR PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO REQUEST APPLICANTS OR HOLD THEM TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONTINUANCES? BECAUSE I JUST I'VE NOTICED LATELY, NOT JUST WITH THIS CASE BUT WITH OTHERS, THAT THERE'S BEEN A CONTINUED AMOUNT OF CONTINUANCES NOT ONLY BEFORE THIS BOARD, BUT ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND IT GETS THE CITIZENRY OUT THERE READY TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM, AND THEN THEY FIND OUT IT'S CONTINUED AND IT'S A PATTERN.

DO WE HAVE ANY SORT OF PARAMETERS ON THIS BOARD AS FAR AS HOW MANY TIMES BEFORE WE RECOMMEND IT, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON THEM NOT COMING? I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT AT THE CURRENT MOMENT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN RESEARCH AND GET BACK TO YOU ON.

I DO KNOW THAT JAKE WEISS, WHO IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THAT, THAT CONTINUANCE, JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.

IF IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM ON THIS, I'M SURE HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SPEAK ON MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU'D ENTERTAIN ME.

I'M QUITE CURIOUS.

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AND PERFECTLY FAIR QUESTION.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROJECT MANAGER'S FATHER PASSED AWAY, SO WE HAD A PRETTY LENGTHY SETBACK.

AND THEN, UNFORTUNATELY, THE THE ARCHITECT THEY CHOSE TO CREATE THE RENDERINGS, JUST DROPPED THE BALL DIDN'T DO IT, SO THEY REHIRED ANOTHER ONE.

I JUST SAW THEM EARLIER TODAY.

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM TO STAFF THIS WEEK.

BUT IT'S A COUPLE OF UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THE DELAYS.

WELL, DEFINITELY CONDOLENCES TO THAT INDIVIDUAL.

I GUESS JUST MY INQUIRY, MR. WISE, IS IS THIS EIGHT THREE? DOES IT SEEM REALISTIC NOW THAT YOU'VE HAD OBVIOUSLY, BARRING ANY OTHER HORRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES COMING UP, DOES IT SEEM MORE REALISTIC? AND CAN THE FOLKS THAT DO WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT CASE, CAN THEY RELY ON THAT DATE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THEY RELIED ON THIS ONE OR LAST MEETING? YES, WE WERE CONFIDENT BECAUSE I DID JUST SEE THE RENDERINGS TODAY THAT THE CITY'S BEEN ASKING US FOR.

SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE GET THEM TO STAFF THIS WEEK AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MEETING DATE.

AND COINCIDENTALLY, THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISIONS ALSO WAS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WITH ME ON ANOTHER PROJECT.

SO WE DID PROVIDE THEM AN UPDATE OF WHERE THINGS WERE AT.

SO IT DID HAPPEN TO WORK OUT FOR THIS ONE.

GOOD, GOOD. AWESOME.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION, MR. WISE. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I.

GOOD EVENING. BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH CP 26 2022, I WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE SOME NEW STAFF MEMBERS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.

WE HAVE STEPHEN WHITE, WHO HAS JOINED US AS THE PRINCIPAL PLANNER.

HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS NOW.

AND THEN WE HAVE TANIA RAMOS, WHO HAS JOINED US AS A SENIOR PLANNER, AND SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS NOW.

SO WE ARE SLOWLY BUILDING OUR TEAM BACK UP AS FAR AS IS GETTING FULLY STAFFED.

AND SO I THINK THAT YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF NEW FACES IN THE FUTURE PRESENTING BEFORE YOU.

HM. OK SO CP 26 2022 IS THE PARKSIDE COMMONS LLC AND WEST 80 ACRES.

THIS IS OWNED BY TONY MASON.

JAKE WISE IS AN ENGINEER OF RECORD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM AEW AND ASKS ONE IN BREVARD COUNTY TO RHC REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER IN THE CITY LIMITS OF PALM BAY.

THE SITE IS 124.33 ACRES, AND ALL OF THE PERTINENT INFORMATION IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL AS STAFF.

THANK YOU, JAKE WYSE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

WE HAD A VERY LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON THIS PROJECT LAST TIME.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ANNEXATION PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING FOR IT.

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT GETTING TICKETS, RIDING HORSES FOR MR. BATTEN AND TALKED ABOUT THE WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

SO SINCE WE DID GO THROUGH SO MUCH DETAIL BEFORE, I WAS GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.

YOU HAVE A HEAVY AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT OF COURSE, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORIES.

BUT GENERALLY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS TO BRING THE ENTIRE 124 ACRES INTO THE CITY, THE REZONING AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO AGENDA ITEMS. THIS FIRST ONE IS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, THE UNDERLYING LAND USE, AND IT'S JUST A POINTER.

OKAY. THANKS. HERE WE GO.

SO JUST GENERALLY, WE'VE GOT MALABAR ROAD TO THE NORTH.

WE'VE GOT THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY.

SO THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF THE PARKWAY AND MALABAR HILL ROAD HERE.

WE'RE PLANNING TO EXTEND THE PARKWAY TO APARTMENTS DOWN HERE IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT WILL HELP RELIEVE TRAFFIC OFF OF MALABAR ROAD.

WE HAVE FOUR COMMERCIAL LOTS ALONG HERE, A HIGH END RV PARK HERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN SINGLE FAMILY HERE

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OFF SITE IS A PROJECT THAT'S GOING THROUGH PERMITTING NOW, AND THAT'S FOR CASITAS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THIS BOARD HAS SEEN BEFORE, AND THAT'S A MULTIFAMILY USE.

WE ALSO HAVE TO OUR EAST DIRECTLY ABOUT 40 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN WE HAVE MALABAR LAKES WEST, WHICH IS AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH VERY CLOSELY ON THE CHAPARRAL PROJECT THAT JUST GOT TABLED.

WE HAVE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING WITH YOU HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE DISCUSSED THEIR BIGGEST CONCERNS, WHICH IS TRAFFIC, WHICH WE KNOW THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN OUT HERE.

WE DID GET AN UPDATE FROM THE CITY ENGINEER ON THE PDA STUDY THAT'S BEING DONE ALONG MALABAR ROAD. AND HE SAID THE FINAL MALABAR STUDIES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS FOR FINAL REVIEW.

AND SO THAT'S A MAJOR MILESTONE FOR FOR THAT STUDY TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT'S FOR THE FOUR LANING OF MALABAR ROAD OUT THERE.

AND THAT CONSIDERS EVERYTHING FROM DESIGN ELEMENTS WHICH THEY'VE NOW CHOSEN TO ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY TO FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S WELL UNDERWAY AS WELL.

THAT WILL BE A REGIONAL IMPROVEMENT OUT THERE.

AND THEN THE PARKWAY TO THE NORTH, THAT IS ALREADY TWO LANES.

IT'S DESIGNED FOR FOUR LANES AND SIX LANES AND PERMITTED FOR THAT.

SO THIS PROJECT AND OTHER PROJECTS WILL HELP ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BE MADE.

BUT WE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST AND MALABAR LAKES WEST ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THEY HAVE A HARD TIME, ESPECIALLY MAKING LEFT TURNS GETTING OUT OF THEIR SUBDIVISION.

THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS BUFFERING WITH THEM.

THERE IS 130 FOOT OVER TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, RIGHT OF WAY CANAL HERE BETWEEN US AND THEM.

CAN I GO BACK TO SLIDE? IS THIS THE POWERPOINT OR THE.

NOW. OKAY, NOW, EVERYBODY, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND SO THEY HAVE AN ENTRANCE DOWN HERE, THE FAR EAST OF THE 40 ACRES I MENTIONED, AND THEY HAVE TWO CUL DE SAC ROADS THAT COME AND TERMINATE NEAR THAT MELVIN TILLMAN CANAL.

SO THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF HOUSES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO THAT CANAL.

WE MADE WE DESIGNED ALL OF THESE LOTS, AGAIN, SINGLE FAMILY UP AGAINST SINGLE FAMILY, BUT WE DESIGNED ALL THESE TO BE DEEPER SO THAT WE COULD PRESERVE ANY VEGETATION WE HAVE ON THE BACK OF THE LOTS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHATEVER MEL TILLMAN DOES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY THING THAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT.

AND THEN WE HAD ONE OTHER NEIGHBOR COME WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS.

ALONG THE MELBOURNE TILGHMAN CANAL.

IT'S ACTUALLY A RIGHT OF WAY JUST OFF THIS PROPERTY TO THE WEST.

SO WE ASSURED THEM THAT WE WOULD DO ANYTHING TO IMPACT THEIR ACCESS.

IF ANYTHING WILL IMPROVE IT WITH THIS ROAD HERE, THIS CROSSING.

AND OF COURSE WHEN WE WORK WITH MELBOURNE, TILGHMAN, WHICH WE DO A LOT OF PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THEIR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THEIR CANAL SO WE WOULDN'T BE IMPACTING THAT PERSON'S ACCESS AT ALL.

AND SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THEIR CONCERN.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, FOR THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS A DESIGN FOR A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

WE TOOK THE TIME TO ACTUALLY REDESIGN IT MULTIPLE TIMES TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

WE WHEN THE CASITAS CAME IN, FOR EXAMPLE, WE MODIFIED OUR APPLICATION WHEN THE CAMPGROUND CAME BACK FOR THE CITY AT FRED POPPY PARK.

WE MODIFIED WHAT WE WERE DOING TO COMPLEMENT WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, NOT TO COMPETE AT ALL.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.

SO WE DID ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ANNEXATION, WHICH THIS BOARD DOES NOT HEAR.

AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL FOR THE ANNEXATION BY CITY COUNCIL.

THE STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIES THAT WE MEET ALL EIGHT CRITERIA FOR THE COMPETENT AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, YOU HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

AND OF COURSE, IF WE COULD RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

EH, JAKE, JUST REAL QUICK.

THIS IS IDENTICAL, OF COURSE, TO THE APPLICATION THAT CAME BEFORE US LAST MONTH.

IT IS. JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD WHY IT'S BACK.

WELL, THE PREVIOUS REVIEW WAS FOR THE THE ZONING.

THE ZONING.

THIS ONE TONIGHT IS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK HERE TONIGHT.

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PETER. SURE.

FAIR QUESTION. WE HAVE ALREADY APPLIED FOR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AS WELL.

JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE AND THE SINGLE FAMILY IS 376 LOTS, THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 288 UNITS, AND THE RV IS SHORT TERM RENTALS.

EMPTIER. EVEN WITH MR. WISE'S RESPONSE, I STILL LIE IN THE CONFUSED CAMP AS WHAT THIS CASE IS IN, AS OPPOSED TO THE LAST.

SO I KNOW ABOUT THE ANNEXATION THAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE.

WE DID A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEN IMMEDIATELY A ZONING FEW CASES IN A ROW.

AND NOW WE HAVE TWO CASES IN A ROW TONIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE STAFF CAN ADD A LITTLE MORE TEXTURE.

MAYBE I JUST NEED TO HEAR IT A DIFFERENT WAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M JUST VERY CONFUSED.

SO NOW. YES, PERFECT.

OKAY. SO CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE, THERE IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH TEMPORARY ZONING FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.

IN THIS CASE, A RACK, A REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER, DOES NOT GET A PRELIMINARY ZONING TAG.

SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ENACTED THROUGH A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE.

THE RESOLUTION PROVIDES THE TEMPORARY TAG.

IF IT IS PWD, THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES THE ACTUAL FINALIZED TAG THROUGH A PAD FROM A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR RIGHT AWAY AT THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE IF IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH A RACK.

HOWEVER, THERE WAS AN ADVERTISEMENT AND SUBSEQUENTLY AN ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT WE PROCEEDED WITH A RESOLUTION RATHER THAN AN ORDINANCE.

SO IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN A TEMPORARY ZONING TAG TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A COMPLETE FINALIZED ZONING TAG.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST ADJUSTING THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT DOES GET THE FINAL ZONING TAG SO THAT IT CAN COME BACK THROUGH FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS LATER ON.

THAT'S SORRY. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE ONLY DOING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I DO APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT.

YOU'LL SEE THE ZONING LATER ON IS THAT RENDER THE CASES THAT WE HOSTED AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING MOOT? CORRECT. WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE BEING REHEARD TONIGHT.

UNDERSTOOD. SO THOSE ARE MOOT ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT BASED UPON THE SAME FACTS, WHATEVER.

THE ONLY THING WE'RE CHANGING IS THE TITLE.

WE'RE DOING A RESOLUTION INSTEAD OF AN ORDINANCE.

OR PERHAPS THEY'VE REVERSED TO AN EXTENT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING TO MAKE A MODIFICATION TO THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN LANGUAGE INSIDE OF THE CODE BECAUSE OF HOW IT IS WRITTEN AND COMPARISON TO SOME OF OUR UNIQUE ZONING DISTRICTS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CORROBORATE BETTER WITH EACH OTHER.

AND MR. WISE, AS WELL AS HIS APPLICANT, IS THANKFULLY ALLOWING FOR US TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND BEING VERY PATIENT WHILE WE RECTIFY A CODE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE NOTICED WHEN THEY DID COME THROUGH WITH THIS APPLICATION.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGH EXPLANATION, MR. WEISS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PREVIOUS ONE.

I NEEDED BOTH BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER PICTURE.

OUTSIDE OF JUST YOUR CASE, I'M UNDERSTANDING MORE WHERE WHERE THE BREAKDOWN IS, WAS AND WAS FOUND.

SO THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST, I GUESS THE NEXT KNOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST ERST AM.

ONE REASONS WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE.

IT WAS ONE THE DEVELOPER ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THEY COULD HAVE NOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE DEVELOPMENT COULD HAVE STILL PROCEEDED, BUT IT WOULD HAVE ALL BEEN DONE THROUGH THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF THE CITY OF THE PALM BAY. SO WE WOULD HAVE GOT $0 FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE AND COUNTY WOULD HAVE GOT EVERYTHING, BUT ALL OF THE RESOURCES WOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED ON TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE WATER, THE SEWER, AND THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCESSING ALL OF OUR RESOURCES FOR THAT.

AND SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT TAX DOLLAR WILL BECOME INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY WITH THE ANNEXATION.

BUT AS ALWAYS, I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF FARMLAND AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL THAN I AM OF DEVELOPMENT.

BUT THEY COULD DEFINITELY PACK THE SEAT A LITTLE TIGHTER IF THEY WANTED TO.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M GLAD TO SEE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND AT THE LAST MEETING, I ALSO BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND I NOTICED THAT IT IS NOW INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGE, THAT THERE WAS THREE ROUTES FOR THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARK, WHERE THEY WERE SAYING WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY PORTION.

BUT IT DIDN'T SHOW WHERE THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY WAS RUNNING THROUGH THE THREE ROUTES THAT IS NOW INCLUDED INTO THEIR PACKAGE.

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IF WE APPROVE THIS.

THAT TAKES AWAY ONE OF THE POSSIBLE ROUTES OR THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

THERE WAS THREE ROUTES THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED.

IT'S IN YOUR PACKET THERE FOR THE THREE ROUTES, SO IT ONLY LEAVES US DOWN TO TWO ROUTES.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONCERN FROM ME WAS.

BUT OVERALL, I LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, THAT'S DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I LIKE THEIR PROPOSAL.

VERY FEW PROPOSALS.

DO I AGREE WITH THIS HAPPENS TO BE ONE THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

MR. BATTEN BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF POINTS I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON.

WE DID MEET WITH THE COUNTY AND WE COULD HAVE STARTED THIS PROJECT A LOT LONGER TIME AGO IF WE DID GO THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT AS WELL.

BUT WE THINK IT'S THE RIGHT PROJECT FOR PALM BAY FOR THIS AREA, BRINGING THE CITY, BRINGING ALL OF THIS AREA INTO THE CITY.

SO IT HAS TAKEN US ALL A LOT LONGER TO GET HERE, BUT WE DID THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT BEFORE YOU.

WITH RESPECT TO THE THREE ROUTES, THEY DID A STUDY THAT MR. BATTEN WAS REFERRING TO ABOUT POTENTIAL EXTENSIONS OF THE PARKWAY.

ONE OF THEM CUT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THIS APPLICATION EVER MOVED FORWARD.

SO WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL REASSESS THOSE DOWN THE ROAD.

ANOTHER ONE WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF A BURROW PIT THAT AT THE TIME WASN'T THAT FAR ALONG, WHICH IS THERE TODAY.

SO THEY WILL RECONSIDER WHEN THIS PROJECT HOPEFULLY MOVES FORWARD.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE THAT BURROW PIT IS AS THE FUTURE EXTENSIONS MOVE DOWN THE ROAD, WE CALL IT THE SPAGHETTI MAP.

THEY HAVE THE DIFFERENT LINES, KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU TRACK THE HURRICANES EARLY, EARLY ON.

AND SO THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

AND THEN HE BROUGHT UP THE REVENUE JUST BASED ON THIS CURRENT PLAN, PROJECTED REVENUE FROM IMPACT FEES IS $3.65 MILLION.

WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES ARE $3.3 MILLION.

PALM BAY AD VALOREM REVENUE, WHICH WOULD BE ONGOING, IS ABOUT 775,000 A YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF $7.7 MILLION.

SO IT DOES BRING QUITE A BIT TO THE CITY AS WELL, ALONG WITH SOME WHAT WE THINK ARE SOME REAL NEEDED USES.

WE DO ALREADY HAVE A RESTAURANT PLAN FOR THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL TO THE FAR WEST THERE AND WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM ALREADY, SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS THING COME TO FRUITION AFTER ALL THIS TIME.

WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. MOTION TO APPROVE CP 26 2022.

SECOND. I.

PD 26, 2022 HAS BEEN OR IS GOING TO BE REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT THAT WE JUST MENTIONED.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST.

SO WE SENT IN AN EMAIL REQUEST TODAY TO TABLE THIS ONE, AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE TEXTURE AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT STEPH DESCRIBED.

WE JUST SENT IT FOR TABLING AT THE COUNCIL, NOT THE P AND Z MEETING.

SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO FORM THE BOARD.

WE'D LIKE TO FORM A REQUEST THAT PLANNING AND ZONING BE TABLED AT THIS TIME UNTIL WE CAN PROCESS THE APPLICATION TO I GUESS YOU GUYS CAN EXPLAIN IT AGAIN.

YES, THAT IS THE GOAL FOR AUGUST 3RD.

WE DO EXPECT NO HICCUPS IN THAT PROCESS.

WE JUST DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO THROUGH THE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT AND THIS FOLLOWS THAT THIS HAS TO JUST WAIT ON THE ACTUAL PROCESS FOR THE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT TO START AND THEN IT CAN SUBSEQUENTLY FOLLOW THAT.

MOTION TO CONTINUE CASE PD 26 2022 TO THE AUGUST 3RD MEETING.

SECOND. I.

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GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

JESSIE ANDERSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

BEFORE YOU NOW, WE DO HAVE CP CASE NUMBER CP 21 2022.

THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM RURAL, SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL TO.

SORRY AND SORRY.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL REQUEST.

AND SECOND, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

SO THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS RURAL, SINGLE FAMILY COMMERCIAL, AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS GENERAL USE.

THIS IS FOR 43.55 ACRES OF LAND.

IT IS LOCATED WHAT IS GOING TO BE ALONG THE FUTURE CORRIDOR OF OSMOSIS DRIVE.

AND WITH THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM RURAL, SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AS I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE, THIS IS A CASE THAT HAS COME BEFORE YOU.

IT DID RECEIVE APPROVAL PREVIOUS AND IT'S PREVIOUS GO ROUND WITH ALL OF YOU AND THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT WAS STOPPED DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAD NOTICED THERE WAS.

EVEN THOUGH THE STAFF REPORTS AND OTHER SUBSEQUENT DOCUMENTS DID NOTE THE COMMERCIAL, IT WAS NOT NOTED IN THE INITIAL LEGAL.

IT WAS NOTED ONLY AS A RURAL SINGLE FAMILY MOVING TO POD RATHER THAN HAVING THE RURAL, SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL MOVING TO THIS NEW USE OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE ARE CLARIFYING THAT REQUEST WITH THAT ISSUE THAT HAD COME BEFORE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE RECTIFYING THE AREA AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROPERLY REPRESENTING WHAT THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS IN COMPARISON TO WHAT IS REQUESTED BEFORE YOU.

SO AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE WESTERN SIDE, LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO IT.

JAKE DID. SIT ON THIS ONE.

I CAN'T DO IT. SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A COMMERCIAL ON THE PARCEL THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PORTION OF WHERE OSMOSIS DRIVE IS GOING TO CONNECT THROUGH.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAD TO IDENTIFY WITH THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE THAT THAT PORTION WILL BE CHANGING AND IT IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION THAT IS MAINLY CHANGING FROM COMMERCIAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL, WHEREAS THE NORTHERN PORTION IS MAINLY BEING RETAINED AS SUPPORTING COMMERCIAL TO THIS PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SET OF SLIDES IN THE SUBSEQUENT CASE.

SO FOR THIS ONE, WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

IT IS IN CONCERT WITH SEVERAL OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE GOALS, SUCH AS PROVIDING FOR VIABLE AND MORE OF A MIXED USE TYPE AREA WITH THIS COMMERCIAL SUPPORTING NATURE TO ITS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, MORE PREDOMINANT USE.

SO AS I MENTIONED, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CP 21 2022 AND DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WELL.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IN.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.

SIR. THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON. THIS THIS PROJECT WENT THROUGH COUNCIL AND GOT APPROVED, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT WAS STOPPED BEFORE THE SECOND COUNCIL HEARING, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO OUR ATTORNEY ON THAT TO VERIFY THE BASIS, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THE CONVERSATION WAS WAS THIS STOPPED AT THE SECOND MEETING FOR COUNCIL, THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR DEGROOT SUBDIVISION PD 21 AND CP 21.

THANK YOU, KIM. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

I WAS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PULTE, KIM RESNICK, ON BEHALF OF PULTE GROUP.

AND THIS WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND WAS APPROVED.

THERE WAS NO SECOND READING ON EITHER OF THESE BECAUSE THIS WAS COMP PLAN BY MY ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ONE READING.

AND THEN THE PUD IS THE PDP IS BY RESOLUTION WITH THE TEMPORARY ZONING, AS MR. ANDERSON WAS SAYING BEFORE.

SO WE KEPT WAITING FOR THE ORDINANCES OR THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION TO COME THROUGH AND THEY FOUND OUT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE ADVERTISING.

SO WE'RE BACK AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE READY TO TO APPLY FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THIS PROCESS TO BE OVER SO I CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION AGAIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

AGAIN, IT'S JUST TO ALLOW 119 UNITS.

WE'RE GOING TO PLAN AND DEVELOP OSMOSIS ROAD.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO DO THAT.

AND IT AND THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC AND HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S A 2.8 UNIT PER ACRE DEVELOPMENT AND IT DOES MEET A CITY GOAL OF GETTING OSMOSIS TO CROSS THROUGH AND CREATE SOME RELIEF FOR TRAFFIC.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY PRESENTATION FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND I CAN RESPOND TO QUESTIONS OR I CAN JUST WAIT TILL AFTER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THEN WOULD ADDRESS THE PDP AFTERWARDS.

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I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION AGAIN, MR. ANDERSON. DOES THAT MEAN THAT OUR ACTIONS AT THE LAST MEETING OR, I GUESS TWO MEETINGS AGO, AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION RENDERED MOOT? AND WE'RE STARTING THIS PROCESS OVER AGAIN.

YOU DO HAVE TO. WE DO HAVE TO START THIS PROCESS OVER AGAIN.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. YES.

BECAUSE OF THE MISNOMER AND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT WAS CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED AT THE TIME THAT THE APPLICATION WAS MADE.

WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS LEGALLY ADVERTISED CORRECTLY BEFORE THOSE ENTITLEMENTS ARE CHANGED TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THIS SPECIFIC CASE.

OVERALL, THE AS I HAD MENTIONED FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE DO STILL RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THIS WAS SOMETHING WE HAD ACKNOWLEDGED DURING OUR ANALYSIS.

IT WAS IN OUR PREVIOUS STAFF REPORTS, WHICH I DO BELIEVE WERE PROVIDED FOR THIS CASE, SHOWN AS REVISIONS.

SO WITH THAT, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SEE AS DETRIMENTAL.

IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SEE AS MORE SO ALLOWING FOR US TO IDENTIFY WHAT PARCELS ARE GOING TO BE WITH, WHAT FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE BETTER ANALYSIS IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF OUR GIS.

THANK YOU FOR THE ROBUST EXPLANATION, SIR.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

NOT ME. KIM JUST FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT ESSENTIALLY THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE TO THE PRESENTATION OF THE APPLICATION? THERE WAS. THERE'S ACTUALLY NO DIFFERENCE AS TO WHAT WE HAD THE BIG BOARD HERE LAST TIME.

I HAVE TWO ENGINEERS HERE AS WELL.

WE'VE DONE THE TRAFFIC METHODOLOGY LETTER.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS ON OSMOSIS.

SO THIS, I THINK IS A TRANSPARENCY ISSUE AND KUDOS TO STAFF FOR DOING THAT.

WE COULD HAVE JUST WAITED A MONTH AND HOPEFULLY NO ONE NOTICED, BUT I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ALL THE CITY RESIDENTS TO KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING WHEN THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE ADVERTISEMENT.

THANK YOU, KIM. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS LESLIE ASPINWALL.

I LIVE AT 2 TO 5 BRANDY CREEK CIRCLE, AND MY HOME WILL ACTUALLY BACK UP TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

I ALREADY SPOKE ALL MY CONCERNS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I HAD ANOTHER NEIGHBOR WANT ME TO ASK, WOULD THIS BE CLASSIFIED AS AN R ONE OR AN R TWO? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S EVEN APPLICABLE? WHEN IT GETS RESUMED.

SO BUT I STILL HAD CONCERNS JUST OVER LIKE SHE HAD MENTIONED THE OVERGROWTH OF THE AREA AND TRAFFIC AND STORMWATER AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. THIS WILL WIND UP WITH A PUD ZONING, WHICH IS NOT REALLY A RESIDENTIAL ZONING, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND SOME COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE LEAVING AN ACRE OF COMMERCIAL OUT PARCEL.

SO IT'S A ZONING AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON CHANGING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR IN YOUR CODE.

MOTION TO APPROVE SEP 21, 2022.

SECOND. I.

ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT CASE BEFORE YOU IS PD 21, 2022.

IT IS THE CORRESPONDING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PRELIMINARY APPLICATION FOR THE TENTATIVE ZONING THAT WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

ITS CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS RURAL, SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL, WITH A CURRENT ZONING OF GENERAL USE FOR 43.55 ACRES OF LAND.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT FROM G TO GENERAL USE TO PAD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS IN CONCERT WITH THE REQUEST THAT WE JUST HEARD BEFORE YOU FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE PLAN.

UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS TO ENCOURAGE A FULL RANGE OF RESIDENTIAL TYPES, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO SERVE THE INHABITANTS OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND THROUGH THE MANNER IN WHICH THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED.

WE DO, AS STAFF BELIEVE IT DOES JUSTIFY THAT INTENT AND PURPOSE BEFORE YOU IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS OVERALL PRELIMINARY PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED OSMOSIS DRIVE EXTENSION THAT WE WILL SEE BE BUILT THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PD 21 2022 AND DOES REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS WELL.

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SO IT IS COMING BEFORE YOU JUST TO JUSTIFY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ISSUE THAT WE HAD JUST DESCRIBED.

THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.

AND SO STAFF.

THANK YOU AGAIN. CAMERAS THANK ON BEHALF OF PULTEGROUP.

HERE WITH ME ALSO ARE THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, CHRIS OZA AND KEENAN.

ALL RIGHT. I'VE JUST LOST HIS LAST NAME.

BUT YES, THAT IS YOU SAW THE PDP THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL.

HASSAN YES.

AND IN YOUR PACKAGE IS ALSO WHAT YOU HAD SEEN BEFORE, THE ACTUAL CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

SO YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHERE THE LAKES ARE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WATER, A LOT OF WATER FEATURES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A FENCE AROUND IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A HOMEOWNER REGULATED ASSOCIATION.

AND AGAIN, IT WILL PROVIDE FOR THE DESIGNING OF OSMOSIS ROAD.

AND IF NOT ALL OF THEM, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD ALL OF OSMOSIS WITH SOME IMPACT FREE CREDITS.

BUT WE'RE WORKING THAT WITH THE CITY.

THE STAFF DOES REQUIRE A LIST OF CONDITIONS WHICH WE'RE AGREEABLE WITH, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE TRAFFIC WARRANT STUDY FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT DEGROOT AND OSMOSIS. SO WE WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THAT.

WE'VE SUBMITTED THE TRAFFIC METHODOLOGY.

AGAIN, WE'RE WAITING, HOPING FOR APPROVAL THROUGH YOU AND THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN WE WILL APPLY FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WILL THEN YOU'LL SEE US AGAIN AND IT'LL BE A FINAL ZONING.

AND WITH THAT IT CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, THE ENGINEERS CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, WE CAN RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORS AND THE AUDIENCE.

WITH THAT, WE WOULD REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE PDP.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS SUSAN CONNOLLY AND MY COMMENTS REALLY AREN'T OPPOSED.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION, IF I MAY, AND IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR CLARIFICATION ABOUT WHAT IS SUPPORTING COMMERCIAL.

BUT DOES THAT MEAN.

ALL RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. I'M NOT CERTAIN I UNDERSTOOD OR HEARD THE QUESTION.

I MEAN, THERE WILL BE ONE ACRE OF COMMERCIAL IN THIS HDPE POD.

WE DO NOT HAVE A BUYER FOR IT AT THIS TIME OR PROPOSED USE FOR IT, BUT IT WILL BE WHATEVER IT WILL BE.

WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT AND HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE IT'S APPROPRIATE.

ZONING WOULD LOOK AT WHATEVER WAS GOING THROUGH THERE TO MAKE SURE IT'D BE COMPATIBLE AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

MOTION TO APPROVE PD 21 2022.

SECOND. I.

MADAM CHAIR, IT APPEARS THAT WE MAY HAVE SKIPPED OVER ITEM FOUR, WHICH WAS THE WITHDRAWAL OF IN-FILL DUTY. YES.

YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON A WITHDRAWAL, ALEX.

OKAY. CAN WE TURN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY? YES. PROCEDURALLY, SOME CLARIFICATION.

I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH MR. WEINBERG, BUT I JUST I WANT TO ESTABLISH IT.

MM HMM. I THINK.

OKAY. YOU COME TO MAKE.

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I WAS SAYING, AS IT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MUCH LEFT FOR US TO DO ON IT.

BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE HAVE THE MIKE ATTORNEY MESSENGER WITHDRAWAL, THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE, IT HAPPENED TO BE THE CITY.

THEY TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA. THEY'RE NOT ASKING US TO HOST A CONTINUANCE.

THAT MEANS THE APPLICATION IS GONE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

YEAH. WHEREAS A CONTINUANCE IS THIS BOARD LIKE WE DID, LIKE WE EXERCISED.

SO THAT MEANS THIS APPLICATION NO LONGER EXISTS BECAUSE IT'S TAKING IT AWAY.

I UNDERSTAND. JUST FOR THE BOARD'S CLARIFICATION IN CONSTITUENTS, WHERE IT WOULD COME BACK EVENTUALLY.

UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD EVENING. BOARD MEMBER STEPHEN WHITE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

IT IS 17.41 ACRES, SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 2102 LADNER ROAD AND THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE WHICH IS CURRENTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IT IS IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE ELEMENT GOALS OF ONE, TWO AND EIGHT.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF SEP 25, 2022, AND WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE CP 25 2022.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE AS WELL.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS JACK SPARROW.

50205 BABCOCK STREET.

I REPRESENT CROWN HOLDINGS GROUP, WHO ALSO IS REPRESENTED BY TRAUGER CALLED SALTING AND ENGINEER WAS THE APPLICANT.

CROWN HOLDING GROUP BACKGROUND IS THEIR HEADQUARTERED IN ATLANTA.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY HANDLING THE CURRENTLY BUILDING THE PROJECT JUST WEST OF THE WALMART ON MALABAR ROAD, WHICH IS CONSISTS OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND RETAIL STORES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 17.14 ACRES.

IT'S LOCATED SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD IN THE EAST OF BABCOCK STREET.

IT'S BEHIND THE HEALTH FIRST MEDICAL CENTER.

THE ADDRESS IS 2102 LADNER ROAD IN PALM BAY.

THE REQUEST IS A SMALL, SMALL, SMALL SCALE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY.

THE NUMBER OF UNITS WILL BE 126 UNITS.

IT WILL BE LESS LESS THAN ONE AND A HALF, SEVEN AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE.

EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A ZONING CATEGORY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEKING AT TEN UNITS PER ACRE, IT'LL BE LESS THAN SEVEN ONE HALF UNITS PER ACRE.

AS FAR AS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS OURS TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THAT PROPERTY IS IS SEPARATED FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BY MELBOURNE TILLMAN CANAL.

TO THE EAST IS AGAIN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WILL BE SEPARATED BY A RETENTION POND.

BETWEEN ANY CONSTRUCTION ON THIS PROPERTY AND THAT PROPERTY, BY RETENTION AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET TO THE SOUTH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT IS VACANT AND TO THE WEST IS IU INDUSTRIAL USE THAT IS ALSO VACANT.

THIS ZONING OR THE CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE WOULD ALLOW A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL USE AND THE SINGLE FAMILY.

THE THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD HERE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE.

IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST LIKE DUPLEXES NOT GOING TO BE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

IT'S GOING TO BE DUPLEXES.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CONSULTING ENGINEER WHO'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION IN A MINUTE.

BUT IT'S GETTING MORE LIKE DUPLEX.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

IT ALLOWS DIVERSITY OF THE HOUSING OPTIONS AND MIX OF USES.

THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS UNDER DISCUSSION WITH HEALTH FIRST HEALTH VERSUS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE. RIGHT NOW THERE'S A WATER LINE DIRECTLY TO HEALTH FIRST.

THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT WATER LINE.

THEY WOULD LOSE WATER THE THE WATER CAPACITY.

THIS WOULD RESULT IN SOME ADDITIONAL UTILITY WORK OVER THERE, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A LOOPING OF A WATER LINE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE CONSTANT WATER.

ALSO, HEALTH FIRST EXPRESSED TO US THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT.

THIS WILL BE RENTAL UNITS.

IT WILL BE MANAGED BY ONE COMPANY, BUT THEY'LL BE RENTAL UNITS HERE.

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LET'S INCORPORATE THE COMMENTS IN MY PRESENTATION.

THE STAFF REPORT IT FINDS STAFF COMMENTS FINDS THE REQUESTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH SECTION ONE 85.21 C OF THE ZONING CODE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AT THIS TIME.

WITH ME, MR. AL LIVENGOOD, WHO'S A PRINCIPAL OF CROWN.

ALSO HAVE JIM TRAUGER, WHO'S THE ENGINEER AND THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT MAY COME UP.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. LET ME BRING THIS UP A LITTLE BIT HERE.

I'M JIM TRAUGER WITH TRAUGER CONSULTING REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS A CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

WE DID PUT SOME SLIDES TOGETHER.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THIS.

GOING. POSSIBLE.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. SO MOVING THROUGH THE SLIDES HERE, THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE INSTITUTIONAL USE TO THE SOUTH AS WELL AS TO THE WEST.

THAT'S THE HEALTH FIRST COMPLEX THERE IN THE HOSPICE AT THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC THERE, THE AERIAL TO THE.

UM LOWER RIGHT ON THAT SLIDE IS VIEW LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE MELBOURNE TILMAN RIGHT AWAY YOU CAN SEE THE PONDS AND METROPLEX PARKWAY OVER THERE TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS PROPERTY IS WEDGED IN BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY USE AND THE INDUSTRIAL EXCUSE ME, THE INSTITUTIONAL USE HERE.

SO WE FEEL THIS IS A GOOD TRANSITIONAL ZONING AND LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THIS IS OUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.

WE SUBMITTED AND MET WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT A FEW MONTHS AGO.

IT'S. LITTLE DIFFICULT TO TO SEE AT THIS AT THIS SCALE.

SO WE DID KIND OF DO A ZOOMED IN A ZOOMED IN VERSION HERE AND JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE FACTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING IN. THIS WILL BE FULLY GATED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A MODERN CLASS, A RENTAL PRODUCT, ONE IN TWO STORY BUILDINGS ONLY.

IT'S NOT A ONE OF THOSE KIND OF RACK AND STACK OF FOUR STORY SUBDIVISION RENTALS.

WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME UNITS POTENTIALLY WITH GARAGES, AND THEN ONE INSTITUTE, 1A2 STORY PRODUCT.

WE ARE LOOKING TO KEEP THE TWO STORY TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S KIND OF TWO ROWS OF THE UNITS.

ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE ONE STORY ONLY.

I'M JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE MORE PRIVACY AND BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEREBY WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO A VERY NICE AMENITY PACKAGE WITH A RESORT STYLE POOL, CLUBHOUSE, CABANAS, THAT SORT OF THING, AS WELL AS I'D SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON THE ON THE BUFFERING.

THERE WOULD BE A COMPLETELY OPAQUE SIX FOOT FENCE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN ALSO ON THIS, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE KIND OF LAID IT OUT.

THE WE PUT THE OVERSIZE WET DETENTION POND BETWEEN US AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, WHICH PROVIDES OVER 300 FEET TO THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, TO THE EAST, TO THE NORTH, THAT PURPLE SHADED AREA, WE HAVE THE MELVIN TILMAN RIGHT AWAY.

AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF VARYING DEGREES OF THE EXISTING HOUSES THERE TO THE NORTH.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 135 TO 145 FEET OF SEPARATION TO THOSE EXISTING UNITS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERING THERE.

THAT POND I DID SPEAK ON.

WE ARE LOOKING TO OVERSIZE THAT POND AND DO A STORMWATER HARVESTING SYSTEM WHERE IT KEEPS THE MAJORITY OF THE WATER ON THE SITE FOR A NORMAL, REGULATED STORMWATER EVENT.

AND IT ALSO PROMOTES LOW IMPACT DESIGN, WHICH IS IS SOMETHING WE TRY TO DO ON MOST OF OUR PROJECTS DOWN HERE IN PALM BAY.

THERE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY METHODOLOGY BEING WORKED THROUGH WITH THE TRAVEL CONSULTANT AND THE CITY STAFF THAT'S KIND OF IN ITS INFANCY AT THIS POINT.

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THAT WILL BE CONTINUED WITH THE SITE PLAN PERMITTING AND AND REVIEW WITH YOUR YOUR STAFF.

AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING TO PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL BUFFERING TO THE EXISTING HOMES.

THE FOLLOWING SLIDES ARE SOME SOME RENDERINGS OF OF THIS PRODUCT AND OTHER PRODUCT THAT CROWN HOLDINGS HAS DONE IN THE PAST.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR WHAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE, AGAIN, IT'S A VERY NICE, NICE AMENITY CENTER.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO USE THAT AS A AS A AS A FOCAL POINT FOR THIS THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE POOL IN THE BACKGROUND HERE.

AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME SOME DIFFERENT CONCEPTS ON HOW BEST TO MAKE THIS FIT INTO THE THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, HERE'S SOME MORE PICTURES AND EXCUSE ME, SOME RENDERINGS OF THE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY.

HERE IS SOME SOME RENDERINGS OF SOME OF THE SOME OF THE UNITS.

AGAIN, IT'S ALL VERY SIMILAR TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT.

SINGLE STOREY. TWO STOREY.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT VERY MUCH LOOKS LIKE A HOME, BUT AS IN THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT, YOU CANNOT DO A DUPLEX STYLE PRODUCT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO TO DO THE REZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT TO A MULTI-FAMILY LAND USE DISTRICT.

HERE'S A COUPLE MORE OF THE SLIDES.

THIS IS KIND OF ANOTHER.

ANOTHER FACADE WE'RE ENTERTAINING AND WORKING THROUGH WITH THE DESIGN TEAM IN THE ARCHITECT.

AND THIS FINAL SLIDE IS JUST A COLOR RENDERING PUT TOGETHER TO KIND OF SHOW A LITTLE BETTER WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.

THE LARGE POND TO THE EAST, THE GATED ACCESS, THE BUFFERING AND THE THE LANDSCAPING ON THIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S KIND OF THE END OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

I'LL BE WELL, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.

YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK THAT THIS. THE CONCEPT OF THIS PROJECT IS VERY NICE.

BEAUTIFUL. ASK YOU A QUESTION.

AND I MEAN THIS IN ALL SERIOUSNESS.

YOU EVER DRIVEN TO THE END OF FALLON BOULEVARD? YES. WHO LIVES THERE? I'M TALKING TO THIS GENTLEMAN.

BESIDES ALL THESE PEOPLE, THE PEACOCKS.

WHERE DO THE PEACOCKS LIVE? I LIVE IN THOSE WOODS.

ALL THE PEACOCKS.

THEY ALL LIVE IN THOSE WOODS.

AND AT THE END OF FALLON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A 35 MILE AN HOUR.

BUT AS ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE PREPARED TO TELL US, NOBODY GOES 35.

VERY, VERY.

I STAND CORRECTED.

IT'S A 30. EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME. I KNOW THEY SPEED.

THAT'S ALL I DO NOW AT NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE END IS IS IS ONLY QUIET BECAUSE IT'S DEAD END.

SO NOBODY OUGHT TO BE BACK THERE IF THEY DON'T LIVE THERE OR THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, VISITING SOMEONE THAT IS.

THE CAPACITY THAT THIS WOULD ADD TO FALLON BOULEVARD IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO ME, AND I'VE BEEN NOODLING THIS SINCE I GOT THE PACKET.

I LOOKED AGAIN.

THIS DESIGN PROJECT I WELCOME IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I DO. 100%.

WE NEED THAT. THIS LOCATION IS BEYOND LESS THAN IDEAL.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLY INCOMPATIBLE.

PLEASE. I DON'T SEE AND I JUST ASK A QUESTION TO GET CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THE CASE IS THAT THIS WILL CREATE SOME FORM OF CONNECTIVITY AND CONTINUITY RELATED TO THE HEALTH FIRST PROPERTY.

BUT JUST TO ESTABLISH THIS FACT THAT HEALTH FIRST PROPERTY IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY MALABAR ROAD AND THIS PROPERTY IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY FALLIN OR ONLY DEVELOPED TO BE ACCESSIBLE.

SO EVEN IF FOLKS WANTED WORK AT HEALTH FIRST, THEY'D STILL HAVE TO DRIVE TO THIS PLACE AND ADD TO THE TRAFFIC.

IT WOULD STILL BE TEN OR 15 MINUTES AWAY, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE HEALTH FIRST COMPLEX.

THERE IS A PLACE THAT IS DOING THIS SIMILAR PROJECT AND MULTIFAMILY ACTUALLY THEY WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION TONIGHT FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, BUT THEY'LL BE HERE.

I JUST DON'T GET THE COMPATIBILITY.

SO I KNOW I MADE A LOT OF STATEMENTS AS OPPOSED TO QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO SET ALL THAT UP AND GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW ME THE VISION.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU DIDN'T DO ALL THIS RESEARCH AND DRAW THIS PLAN AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IF THERE WASN'T SOME FORM OF ANSWER TO HOW THIS IS COMPATIBLE IN THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND.

SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

SO AT OUR PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, WE DID MEET WITH STAFF AND THEY DID LET US KNOW THAT THERE IS CAPACITY ON FALLON.

WE WILL, OF COURSE, HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE THE SIGNAL TIMING AT BABCOCK.

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I HAVE DRIVEN OUT TO THE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, I NOTICED WHEN YOU GET A LIGHT THAT COMES INTO FALLON, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF CARS.

AND WHEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF CARS IN A ROW, IT SEEMS LIKE THE SPEEDS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE MANAGEABLE.

BUT ON MY WAY OUT, THERE WAS JUST A SINGLE CAR COMING OUT OF THE ROAD AND THEY WERE EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOU KNOW, I CAN WE CAN HAVE THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT COME UP.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK AT AND WORK WITH STAFF THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AS WE GO FORWARD.

BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THE TRIPS TODAY OR THE CAPACITY OF THE ROAD.

THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I'M A SPECIALIST IN.

BUT WE DO WE WILL NOTE THAT AND WE DO PLAN ON ADDRESSING THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU, SIR. NO PROBLEM.

AGAIN, I'D JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE, IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, THAT THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT, AND I WANT YOU TO CONTINUE TO DRAW PROJECTS LIKE THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND LOOK CREATIVELY FOR PLACES THAT THEY'RE MORE COMPATIBLE.

AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US IN ITS FORM.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. SURE.

COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU.

FOR.

SORRY I'M LEGALLY BLIND, SO A LITTLE BIT HARDER AND.

MY NAME IS ROBERT BUSH.

SIT. MY ADDRESS IS 373 BUTLER AVENUE.

AND ME AND LOTS OF MY MY NEIGHBORS WHO WERE WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY TIGHT KNIT PEOPLE AND WE HELP EACH OTHER OUT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS, BUT I JUST ADDRESSED A COUPLE AND ALLOW THEM TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THEIR VIEWS, TOO, BECAUSE I WANT THEM.

WE'RE ALL VERY.

HEATED ABOUT THIS CERTAIN SUBJECT.

SO I WANT THEM TO GET THEIR OWN INPUT TOO.

BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE FOR US IS JUST THERE'S TOO MUCH PEOPLE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD AND THEN GET PEOPLE WHO LIKE BASICALLY THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY.

SO THEN THEY'LL GO DOWN.

BUTLER. IF THEY WERE IF THEY ACTUALLY DID OPEN THAT UP ON LANDER AND THEN PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO HAVE KIDS, THEY'LL GET RAN OVER.

BECAUSE PEOPLE SPEED RIGHT THROUGH THERE.

AND SO THERE'S NO SPEED BUMPS, WHICH IS A, OH, MY GOD, AMOUNT OF THINGS I HAVE TO DO BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET ONE THROUGH THE CITY AND I DON'T KNOW, I'VE KIND OF GIVEN UP.

BUT ALONG WITH THAT IS, IF THEY ALSO DO THAT, WHERE DO ALL THE ANIMALS ARE GOING TO GO? ARE YOU GOING TO GO EVERYWHERE WHERE THEY CAN? BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR HOME? AND WHAT GOES WITH THAT IS, IS LIGHT POLLUTION.

SO NOW WHERE WE WERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THIS LIGHT POLLUTION.

AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE BLARING INTO OUR OUR HOMES, ESPECIALLY MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE IN FRONT OF ME.

THAT'S THEIR BACKYARD.

I MEAN, THAT'S WE WERE TOLD LIKE THOSE PEOPLE WERE TOLD THAT.

THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NOT EVEN GIVEN.

BUT THEN IT GOT SOLD.

THE CITY SOLD IT TO THE PEOPLE.

SO EVERYTHING HE KEEPS ON CHANGING.

AND SO MY, MY, MY.

IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S NOT JUST A FAULT OF WHAT I'M ASKING, BUT IT'S ALSO A QUESTION IF THEY YOU GUYS DO ALLOW THIS.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU GUYS CAN MAKE IT SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT GO DOWN? LADNER. AND IF THEY IF YOU DO DECIDE TO ALLOW THEM TO GO THROUGH LANDER AND YOU PLEASE PUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPEED BUMPS, ONE ON ON BUTLER AND ONE ON LADNER.

SO THAT IT JUST SLOWS THE TRAFFIC DOWN FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE KIDS.

THAT'S ALL. A STAMP.

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MY NAME IS MARY LOGUE.

I LIVE AT 2106 LARDNER ROAD, RIGHT THERE AT THE EDGE WHERE THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH.

THAT IS A DEAD END.

THERE ARE MAYBE SEVEN HOUSES ON LADNER WHEN YOU TURN OFF A GALLON.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTANT TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH.

IF THEY LET THIS GO I'M SORRY.

I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 37 YEARS.

I DON'T WANT THEM THERE.

I LIVE PEACEFULLY.

WE HAVE THE PEACOCKS, LIKE YOU SAID.

WE HAVE GOPHER TURTLES.

WE HAVE ALL THESE ANIMALS THERE.

THEY BUILD THAT. ALL THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY.

THE LIGHTING FROM THESE APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE, ARE GOING TO BE SHINING IN OUR BACKYARDS, SWIMMING POOL ABOVE GROUND.

BUT STILL, IT'S GOING TO BE INTERFERING WITH MY LIVELIHOOD.

I PAID OFF MY HOUSE.

I WANT TO ENJOY MY REST OF MY LIFE THERE.

WITH ALL THIS TRAFFIC COMING IN AND ANCHORS AND GOING TO HAPPEN, WHY CAN'T THEY EXIT FROM OUR ROAD THROUGH? WHY DO THEY HAVE TO USE PHALEN AND LADNER? WHY CAN'T THEY USE MALABAR? THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

WHEN ELSE? IN THE.

MY NAME IS TERESA KECK.

I LIVE AT 372 BUTLER AVENUE.

I'M NEXT DOOR TO MARY.

I'M THE SECOND HOUSE IN BUTLER.

MY PROPERTY BACKS RIGHT UP TO THIS WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT THAT RETENTION POND.

RIGHT NOW, THIS PROPERTY HAS SO MUCH WATER THAT WHEN WE HAVE HURRICANES, I'M FLOODED.

I'M WITHIN AN INCH OF COMING IN MY HOUSE.

THE CITY USED TO OWN THIS LAND, AND I WAS TOLD WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE IN 91 THAT IT WAS GREENBELT, IT WAS TO PROTECT THE GOPHER TURTLES AND THE SCRUB JAYS, AND THAT IT WOULD NEVER BE BUILT ON WELL.

IT'S A CHANGE OVER THE YEARS.

I AM FLOODED FROM THE WATER FROM THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WHEN THE HOSPITAL WAS PUT IN, THEY CHANGED ALL THE WATER FLOW.

SO IF THIS RETENTION POND IS RIGHT THERE AT MY BACKYARD, HOW MUCH WATER AM I GOING TO GET? I DON'T SEE ANY EXIT INTO THE CANALS FROM THAT RETENTION POND.

WHERE IS THAT WATER GOING TO GO? I'M I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HABITAT BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR AREA, OUR PEACOCKS, EVERYTHING.

IT'S A QUIET, BEAUTIFUL, PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, LIKE, TRAFFIC IS ONLY ON LADNER.

THERE'S NO WAY IN EXCEPT LADNER FALLIN.

AND TRAFFIC'S GOING TO BE UNBELIEVABLE.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'M ON THE SECOND HOUSE HERE, AND I'VE GOT A STOP SIGN THERE AT THERE.

HOW MANY HOW TWO CARS ARE GOING TO COME THROUGH THERE TO GET BACK OUT TO FALLON TO LEAVE? THERE IS NO WAY IN AND OUT EXCEPT LADNER.

THERE'S NO PLANS.

THERE'S NO PLANS.

WE'RE WE'RE JUST VERY CONCERNED.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT EVERYTHING.

I'M AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING DIFFERENT TO ADD? SURE.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M DEACON.

I LIVE AT 2139 LEYDEN ROAD.

I AM THE SECOND HOUSE.

OFF OF FELON.

AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, MY BIGGEST CONCERN ONE, I CAN'T STAY IN THE PEACOCK'S PERSONALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A BLACK CAR AND THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T KNOW THIS.

BUT ANYBODY IN THAT SUBDIVISION, IF THEY PUT IT IN THERE, THEIR CARS ARE GOING TO BE TORO.

I'M JUST GIVING THEM THE HEADS UP.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN, I'VE BEEN IN THAT HOUSE FOR 20 YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN THE INTERSECTION OF FALLON AND LARRY FLOOD HURRICANE AFTER HURRICANE.

I'VE HAD TIMES WHERE I'VE WORRIED ABOUT MY OWN BACKYARD AND I LIVED ON THE CANAL.

THE WATER RISES AND YOU GOT MAYBE A FOOT BEFORE IT GOES OVER.

IF THAT ROAD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EXCESS TRAVEL, EXCESS CARS COLLAPSES LIKE IT DID ON THE OTHER SIDE, GOING TOWARDS, I BELIEVE IT WAS PIONEER.

WHERE MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL.

I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WHEN THAT.

OVER COLLAPSED. THAT CREATED SUCH A HEADACHE FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT COMMUNITY.

SO I CAN JUST IMAGINE WITH THIS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THEY WANT TO BRING IN TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE WHERE MY KIDS PLAY.

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BECAUSE I KNOW ME, I HAVE TO PARK MY CAR ON FALLON JUST TO MAKE SURE I CAN GET OUT, JUST IN CASE IT OVERFLOWS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BEEN OUT THERE CITY WISE THAT KNOWS ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT IS A CONSTANT ISSUE ON FALLON AND LADDER.

AND I'M CONCERNED FOR THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, THE ONES THAT ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND THEM.

I'M GOING TO LET THEM SPEAK ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.

MY MAIN CONCERN IS, ONE, I GOT THREE KIDS AND I GOT A GRANDSON NOW.

AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I'VE ENJOYED MY KIDS GOING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE ALL THE RESIDENTS, FOR THE MOST PART, THE ONES THAT LIVE THERE, DO THE SPEED LIMIT OR THEY'LL SLOW DOWN. BUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SPEED JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE DOES.

I COULD TELL YOU THE CORNER OF BUTLER AND LADDER PEOPLE RUN THAT STOP SIGN ALL THE TIME.

I CAN IMAGINE THE ENTRANCE BY MARY'S HOUSE.

IS ANYBODY EVEN GOING TO STOP FOR THAT? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.

SO I JUST I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANYBODY ELSE'S TIME.

THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

I'M IN THE WHITE.

MY NAME IS PAT ALPERIN AND I HAVE LIVED IN THAT AREA SINCE 1978, SO I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH IN THAT AREA. SO I'M STANDING HERE WITH MY NEIGHBORS WHO I DON'T REALLY KNOW PERSONALLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH MAYBE THREE OR FOUR REZONING IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

MAYBE THE LATEST ONE WAS LAST YEAR WHEN THEY CHANGED THE ZONE ON DUNBAR FROM RECREATION TO RESIDENTIAL. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS BUILDING, WHICH IS FINE, LIKE YOU SAID, IF IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THE PROBLEM IN THE FALLON AREA, SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE, THEY HAVE CHANGED THE CODE, THE HEIGHT OF THE LOTS FROM MY LEVEL, THIS LEVEL, THIS LEVEL TO THIS LEVEL.

AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE FLOODING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE FLOODING WHEN I MOVED IN THERE.

SO THE THE CITY REALLY HAS NOT PROPERLY FOCUSED ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS A WHOLE.

THEY LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL HOUSING AND THEY SAY, WELL, THIS CODE WE'RE GOING BY THIS CODE NOW INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR WHERE WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WITH THEIR LOTS ARE HERE, AND THEN THE NEXT LOT IS WAY UP HERE AND YOU WONDER WHY THEY HAVE FLOODING.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO CAUSE THE SAME PROBLEM.

SO THIS REZONING, IT NEEDS TO BE STATE RESIDENTIAL AND THE CITY NEEDS TO STOP CHANGING THE ZONES ALL OVER THE PLACE BECAUSE TO ME IT'S NOT PLANNED.

IT'S ALL HAPHAZARD AND WE'RE NOT REALLY FOCUSING ON THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF PALM BAY NEEDS TO BE REVITALIZED.

ALL YOU'RE DOING IS JUST ADDING MORE AND MORE HOMES, MORE AND MORE BUILDINGS.

AND WE HAVE INCREASED CRIME, INCREASED TRAFFIC, INCREASED WATER PROBLEMS, INCREASED SEWER PROBLEM.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIRE.

SO IF THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT AND THERE'S A FIRE AT THE ENTRANCE, HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO GET OUT? JUST LIKE IN THE HURRICANE.

HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO GET OUT IF THERE'S FLOODING? SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THING AS A WHOLE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP US.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC AND A LOT MORE PROBLEMS. AND I WAS AT THE BAYSIDE.

PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE EVERYTHING THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT AND APPLY THAT TO EVERY SINGLE AREA THAT THESE PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM ON MALABAR ROAD WITH WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING THERE WEST OF WAL-MART.

WE ALREADY HAVE A TRAFFIC ISSUE AT EMERSON, AT SANFILIPPO, AT THE 95 INTERCHANGE, MALABAR AND BABCOCK PORT MALABAR AND BABCOCK PHALEN.

BABCOCK AND PALM BAY.

WE KEEP ADDING MORE HOUSES, WHY DON'T WE TRY LOOKING AT SOME REALLY NICE BUSINESSES? SINCE 78 WE HAVE HAD GOOD BUSINESSES LEAVE PALM BAY.

AND WHAT DO WE GET? WELL, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY GOOD BUSINESSES LATELY, SO HOW ABOUT WE START WORKING ON THAT? AND ALSO THE PARKS, TURKEY CREEK, VETERAN PARK, THE COMMUNITY CENTER ALL NEED TO BE RENOVATED OR REVITALIZED.

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THANK YOU. WOULD YOU PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD? THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? GENTLEMAN BACK. YEAH.

ANYTHING NEW TO ADD? ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD, SIR? MY NAME IS STEVE LLEWELLYN.

I'M AT 2012 KENT STREET.

WE ARE ON THE.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CANAL FROM WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED.

I'D JUST LIKE TO BRING A FEW POINTS TO YOUR ATTENTION.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I SEE AS A PROBLEM IS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE FLAVOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS.

A LARGELY THIS IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND PUTTING A RENTAL SITUATION AT THE BACK END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WELL OVER 100 RENTAL UNITS IS GOING TO REALLY, REALLY CHANGE.

PEOPLE HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO TO A RENTAL DEVELOPMENT.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE INVESTED FOR THE MOST PART IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE AREN'T GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE FOR 30, 20, TEN YEARS AND RAISE THEIR KIDS THERE.

IT'S GOING TO NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST TRAFFIC.

TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE WHERE I AM.

FLOODING ISN'T MY ISSUE.

WHAT I SEE IS I SEE THIS.

THIS IS ALL WELL AND GOOD AS NOBODY, AS LONG AS NOBODY OCCUPIES IT.

BUT AS SOON AS YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE FULL.

IN THAT AREA WHO ARE IN AND OUT MOVING FREQUENTLY.

SOME MAY STAY, BUT MOST RENTAL UNITS, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN AS WE BACK UP AGAINST THE CANAL.

WE HAVE TEENAGERS AND SUCH WHO A SMALL HANDFUL TRAVELS THERE.

BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT A.

ONE STEP DOWN FOR AN APARTMENT UNIT.

RIGHT THERE.

BACKING UP TO THE CANAL ITSELF.

THAT IS A SHORTCUT FOR ANYBODY ON FOOT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I DON'T PERSONALLY WANT AN INCREASE IN FOOT TRAFFIC GOING BEHIND MY HOUSE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SAFE FOR ANYBODY WITH KIDS.

AND AND AGAIN, SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS.

BUT THE NEXT THING THAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU CHANGE THE WHOLE FLAVOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY PUTTING A RENTAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE BACK END OF IT.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU, WHEN YOU CHANGE THAT FLAVOR, IT NOW CHANGES OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

ANYBODY WANTING TO MOVE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I GO TO SELL MY HOUSE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO JUST DRIVE THROUGH AND JUST SEE A REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE THAT TRADITIONALLY THERE'S JUST ONE.

IT'S A DEAD END. IT'S BEEN AS LARGE AS IT IS.

IT'S QUIET.

IT'S NICE. WE HAVEN'T HAD MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

AS SOON AS PEOPLE SEE, OH, OH, THAT'S BACK THERE.

WELL, IT'S CATTY CORNER FROM THE HOUSE I WENT BY.

MM HMM. IT CHANGES THE VALUES.

SO YOU HAVE A LOT. AND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS A LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SLOWLY STARTS TO GO DOWN, WHICH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOESN'T NEED THAT.

TO REALIZE THIS. I WANT TO ALSO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION.

IF YOU IF YOU BASICALLY SCUTTLE A NEIGHBORHOOD.

BY LETTING IT SINK DOWN IN ITS PROPERTY VALUES, YOU'RE BRINGING DOWN THAT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT KIND OF CITY DO YOU WANT TO HAVE HERE? DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT LOW RENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND AS MANY AS YOU CAN GET.

YOU WANT TO JUST PACK THEM IN AND LET PEOPLE JUST LET PALM BAY SINK.

OR DO YOU WANT A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE ARE INVESTED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? DO YOU WANT PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE IMPROVING THEIR HOUSES? NOT PEOPLE JUST CYCLING THROUGH AND GETTING OUT AS SOON AS THEY CAN? WRAP IT UP. YOUR TIME'S UP.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SPECIFIC LIMIT, BUT ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY MAIN POINTS I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER DEEPLY.

HOW DRASTICALLY IT WOULD AFFECT THE THE TONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS NOT A PRIMARILY RENTAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS A PRIMARILY OWNER OCCUPIED SINGLE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THIS WOULD THIS WOULD CHANGE THINGS SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THOSE OF US WHO LIVE THERE.

THANK YOU. SO

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I LIVE AT 242 BUTLER AVENUE, WHICH IS TO THE EAST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

SO AS OPPOSED TO STEVE, WHO LIVES NORTH OF THAT CANAL.

EVERYONE WHO NOW LIVES SOUTH OF THE CANAL ON FALLON BOULEVARD.

WE WE JUST RECENTLY IN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO, WE HAD THE DECISION NOT TO EXPAND CITY SEWER TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED YET.

THANKS TO JAMES FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THAT DID CLEAR UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

BUT THE ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS WITH RESPECT TO CITY SEWER AND FUTURE EXPANSION, I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULD NEED THAT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND HOW IS THAT WHAT ARE THE MECHANICS OF THAT HAPPENING FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? AND IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT GETS SPREAD ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE WOULD ALSO BE FOOTING THAT BILL, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE EXPANDING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE COULD, IF WE WANTED IT BE A BENEFIT FROM? SO I KIND OF HAVE THAT THAT QUESTION.

WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE FUTURE PLANS FOR CITY SEWER? MA'AM.

LESLIE WOLFE YELLED AT 450 GEORGES AVENUE REGARDING THE WASTEWATER.

IS IT GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON THE DRAINAGE ISSUE AND THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS? IS IT GOING TO HAVE A PRIVATELY OWNED WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SEWERS? THE NEXT COMMENT WOULD BE IS OUR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS OVER 60 YEARS OLD AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALONE IS DYING. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AT&T, FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COME AND UPGRADE OUR SYSTEMS? AND THE WATER SYSTEM.

THE WATER PIPES ARE OVER 30 YEARS OLD.

IS THE CITY PUBLIC WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME IN AND UPGRADE THE THE MAIN POWER PART OF THE MAIN WATER LINE THAT COMES DOWN, FALLON.

AND REGARDING THE INTEREST IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WAS THERE ANY COORDINATION WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM REGARDING ADDITIONAL BUSSES AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR SEATS AND ACCOMMODATIONS IN THE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL? AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND WE'VE SEEN PALM BAY GROW IN LEAPS AND BOUNDS FROM WHEN THERE WAS NO DOT ON THE MAP TO THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTY.

AND WE LOVE THE AREA.

I'M MILITARY.

I'VE COME AND GONE AND SEEN MANY PLACES AND I'M STILL HERE.

AND WE WANT TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT IS.

HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR BACKYARD IS NOT THE BEST AND IS NOT THE SAFEST.

REGARDING HURRICANES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, IF THEY CAN PUT A LINE, CONTINUE, LADNER.

PARALLEL TO THE CANAL DOWN PERPENDICULAR TO BUFFALO INTO THE METROPLEX.

THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL OUTLET.

HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE BACK TO WHERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH TOO MANY PEOPLE WITH RENTALS.

IT'S NOT THE DYNAMIC OF OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR COMMUNITY IS RESIDENTIAL FAMILY, NOT NOT RENTALS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM.

SURE. CANCEL ALL CONCERNED RESIDENTS.

MY NAME IS MIKE MANUEL.

LIVE AT 348 BUTLER AVENUE NORTHEAST.

LIVED THERE FOR THREE YEARS.

I MEAN, SEVEN YEARS. I HAVE THREE MAJOR CONCERNS.

THE FIRST CONCERN WAS, OF COURSE, TRAFFIC.

SECOND CONCERNS ARE NATURE.

AND THE THIRD CONCERN.

IS THE PROPERTY VALUES.

FIRST, WITH THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, THERE'S NO WAY TO CHANGE THE LIGHT.

THERE'S NO WAY TO MESS WITH THAT LIGHT DOWN THERE.

YOU CAN'T. AND ONE CAR, MAYBE ONE CAR AND THE TURN LANE BUT TO GO NORTH.

BUT YOU'LL SEE THE CARS LINED UP MORNING TIMES.

GET MY SON TO SCHOOL.

HE GOES TO SAINT JOSEPH RIGHT THERE.

GET HIM TO SCHOOL WITH MORE IN TIME.

SOMETIMES TAKES 15 MINUTES, SOMETIMES TAKES 25 MINUTES.

JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE'S HEAD NORTH, WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS ON 95 IF THERE IS A SHUTDOWN.

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THERE'S NO WAY.

THERE'S NO WAY MESSED THAT LIGHT.

THAT'S FOR ONE. THERE'S PEOPLE'S BEEN HIT.

I'VE PICKED UP MOTORCYCLISTS.

I'VE SEEN BICYCLES GET HIT.

I'VE SEEN PEDESTRIANS GET HIT.

I'VE HAD PEOPLE RIDING MY REAR END.

AND I DO 35.

SO I'M SORRY.

I DID FIVE MILE OVER SPEED LIMIT.

SORRY, BUT I HAVE TO BECAUSE PEOPLE'S RIDING YOUR BUTT, IF YOU DO 30, YOU CAN'T.

YOU'VE GOT TO GO 35 PEOPLE'S PASSED ME IN THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE AND THAT'S JUST RIGHT NOW RENTAL PEOPLE THAT I'VE SEEN PEOPLE COME AND GO ALL THE TIME.

RENTALS COME AND GO AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE COMING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T LIKE IT. MY SON HAS AUTISM.

PEOPLE SPEED UP AND DOWN MY ROAD ALL THE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ABOUT GETTING SPEED BUMPS? SO RIGHT NOW I'D LIKE TO HAVE SPEED BUMPS FOR MY SON BECAUSE WITH KIDS WITH AUTISM, THEY REALLY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO FOCUS ON OTHER THINGS THAT'S GOING ON AROUND THEM.

THEIR ONLY FOCUS ON WHAT'S GOING ON AT THAT POINT IN TIME, RIGHT WHERE THEY'RE AT.

BUT ALSO, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT NATURE.

EVERYTHING I'VE ENJOYED IT WAS THE RACCOONS, SQUIRRELS, RABBITS, ARMADILLOS, BOBCATS, SUGAR GLIDERS, HAWKS, OWLS, TURKEYS, BATS AND OUR BEAUTIFUL PEACOCKS.

SO IF YOU TOUCH THAT 17 ACRES, WHERE IS IT GOING TO GO FOR ONE? AND THE TURKEYS COME FROM TURKEY CREEK PRESERVES.

I MEAN, THEY WALK OVER AND THEY'RE HUGE.

THEY'RE BIGGER THAN INDIANA TURKEYS.

I'LL GIVE THEM THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY CONCERNED.

I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD GO.

I DON'T LIKE IT. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER.

I LIVE RIGHT THERE ON THE BACK SIDE.

I GOT TO DEAL WITH THE HURRICANE AND THE FLOOD ALL THE TIME.

SO IT'S IT'S NOT A GO.

I'D RATHER BE A PARKING LOT IN A NATURE WALK.

THANK YOU.

AND SO I AM PAUL ROSSMAN.

I LIVE AT 2373 FALLON BOULEVARD, THEN THERE FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, ENJOYING THE NICE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, NICE ROADS WE GO FOR WALKS WITH THE DOGS, THE BICYCLES.

IT'S NICE AND SAFE AND QUIET.

WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT, DUMP TRUCKS, CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S GOING TO TEAR UP THE ROADS.

IT'S NOT ONLY EVERYBODY HAS SAID, YES, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC.

FALLON BOULEVARD HAS A SIDEWALK, BUT IT WAS ALSO HAS A SETBACK.

SO IN CASE THEY DID WANT A FOUR LANE IT IN THE FUTURE, THEY COULD.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT A BUSY FOUR LANE ROAD, POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE.

AND THERE'S NO PLACE TO WALK.

YOU CAN'T BIKE SAFELY THERE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A MESS ON LADNER STREET, WHICH IS COMING OFF OF HOWLAND GOING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THEY CAN'T WIDEN THAT ROAD BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SETBACK REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT'S A TINY STREET.

WHY? HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING FOR LANES ON A STREET THAT'S MAYBE 300 YARDS LONG.

SO THAT ROAD WILL BE CONSTANTLY TORE UP BY THE TRAFFIC AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID.

BETWEEN THE NOISE, THE CONGESTION, THE SAFETY, THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS.

AND. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'VE ENJOYED FOR SO LONG.

THANK YOU. WHAT ELSE? THINK. WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? SO WHERE TO START? BUT LET ME START AT THE BEGINNING AND SEE I TAKING NOTES.

I JUST RAN OUT OF PAPER.

WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED.

CERTAINLY THE TRAFFIC SEEMS TO BE FOREMOST PROBLEM.

IT APPEARS THAT THAT IS AN EXISTING PROBLEM.

CERTAINLY THEY'RE CONCERN TO BECOME WORSE, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S AN ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

CERTAINLY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT WOULD REQUIRE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS.

BUT CERTAINLY THE TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE PEACOCK.

I'VE HAD PEACOCKS IN MY HOME.

THEY ARE A MESS. BUT THE CONCERN ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION, THE CITY HAS A CODE, HAS CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRES THAT YOU CANNOT SPILL OVER ONTO THE OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. SO I THINK THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.

SPEED BUMPS, THAT MAY BE A SITUATION THAT MAY BE ADDRESSED.

CERTAINLY THAT'S THE COUNCIL.

CERTAINLY THIS BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE CERTAIN CONDITIONS ON THE ON THE APPLICATION.

WATER RETENTION IS FLOODING, CERTAINLY.

AND I THINK THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT BUILDING THE PADS HIGHER THAN ADJOINING HOUSE PADS.

CERTAINLY THE HOMES, THE DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE ONSITE RETENTION.

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SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RETAIN EVERYTHING ON SITE.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

CRIME. CRIME AGAIN.

GENTLEMEN MENTIONED SOME CRIME PROBLEMS. THAT CERTAINLY IS ALWAYS A PROBLEM.

BUT AGAIN, THAT IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM ANY ANY TIME.

THE RENT, I THINK GENTLEMAN CONCERNED ABOUT RENTS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE RENTAL OF SINGLE FAMILY APARTMENTS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 2200, 20 $500 A MONTH.

THAT IS NOT LOW RENT HOMES ON IT.

IT IS IT IS A RENT.

IT IS NEXT. INSTITUTIONAL ZONING.

THIS IS A STEP DOWN BETWEEN INSTITUTIONAL ZONING AND THE SINGLE FAMILY THERE.

THE THE VALUE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE CAN BE CONSTRUCTED AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND $400, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

HOME VALUES ARE BASED UPON VALUE OF SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

I ASKED MY CLIENT ABOUT WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE SEPTIC TANK OR WELLS.

IT'S GOING TO BE WATER AND SEWER AT THAT SITE.

THEY'LL BRING SEWER. THERE IS INDICATED ONE OF THE BENEFITS WILL BE THE WATER WILL BE COMING.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LOOP THE LINE, LOOP THE SYSTEM WITH HEALTH FIRST.

RIGHT NOW, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT LINE, THEY WOULD BE SHUT OUT OF WATER BY LOOPING THE SYSTEM THAT WOULD CORRECT ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.

AS FAR AS THE OTHER AT&T AND FPL LEADS, IF AT&T AND FPL IS GOING TO COME THERE AGAIN, I CAN'T ADDRESS THAT.

THAT'S A UTILITY ISSUE.

SCHOOL, I'M SURE.

I IMAGINE THERE MAY BE SOME REQUIREMENT COULD GET CONCURRENCY FROM THE CITY, FROM THE SCHOOL, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CAPABILITIES THAT IS GOING TO BE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THAT. THE OTHER ISSUE IS, IS PEOPLE DON'T WANT MULTIFAMILY.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS RS.

TWO AND I MAY BE INCORRECT.

I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT ZONING UNDER ARISTA IS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

I MAY BE WRONG, BUT THAT'S MY INSIDE THE HEAD.

I GUESS I'M LUCKY TODAY.

FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

YOU HAVE 17 ACRES THERE.

YOU CAN YOU CAN BUILD 85 UNITS, 85 HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO CERTAINLY THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT.

BUT THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN SAY THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY DEVELOPMENT THERE.

THIS HAS TO REMAIN PRISTINE.

THEY CAN DEVELOP IT THE WAY IT IS ZONED RIGHT NOW.

85 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEIR ONLY ACCESS IS LADNER AND FALLIN.

CERTAINLY THEY WOULD HAVE. THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

CERTAINLY. I THINK THE THE INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS IS CRITICAL.

MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY CLIENT IS THEY DO WANT TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS, TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT.

CERTAINLY THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE PRESENTED.

BUT THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE IT'S ALL OR NOTHING EITHER.

EITHER WE GET THIS THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OR WE GET NOTHING THERE OR NOTHING TO BE BUILT THERE.

SOMETHING CAN BE BUILT THERE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY IS GROWING.

THE LADY SAYS SHE'S BEEN HERE 40 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 47 YEARS MYSELF, AND I'VE SEEN QUITE, QUITE A FEW CHANGES IN THE CITY.

SO IT CERTAINLY CONTINUES TO GROW.

BUT IT IS EXISTING ZONING RIGHT NOW THAT DOES ALLOW IT.

THIS TYPE OF USE IS DIFFERENT FOR THIS AREA.

I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LOOKS FOR FOUR MIXED USES AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES.

IT DOES ALLOW THE THE PROJECT TO BE WHERE YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE, WHERE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE POOLS, YOU HAVE CERTAIN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AMENITY THAT YOU HAVE WITHIN WITHIN THE CITY. SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AGAIN, I'D REQUEST THAT THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON IT.

THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO HAVE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A TRAFFIC STUDY.

THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM IF TRAFFIC MAY SAY, LOOK, THERE'S MAYBE TWO TO PROBLEMATIC TO DO AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

BUT THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE BEFORE THEY GO BEFORE COUNCIL.

AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO ANSWER THEM OR YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR THE ENGINEER OR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IF THEM BE GLAD TO HAVE THEM COME UP AND SPEAK TO YOU.

THANK YOU. DOORS NOT CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD BOARD TO HEAR THE FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I GOT TRAFFIC, SO I GOT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

JOSH BLACK 1049 UBER.

I WORK WITH LESTER TRANSPORTATION GROUP AND WE DO WORK WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY ALL THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE YET TO DO WITH TO GET THE REZONING PROCESS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DO ANALYSIS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WOULD ONLY YIELD ABOUT 61 NEW AM TRIPS AND 70 4 P.M.

TRIPS. SO IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN YOU'D GET WITH 85 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

THAT'S NOT. SIR.

NO MORE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

A BOARD. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR MOTION? WELL, YOU KNOW, IF I MAY LEAD A LOT OF THESE THESE THESE COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE YOU KNOW,

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YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD MR. SPIRA, YOU KNOW, UNTIL IT NO WATER CAN LEAVE THIS PROPERTY.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO IT'S NOT GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO ANY ANY DRAINAGE.

SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING SAID THAT, MOTION TO APPROVE CP 25 2022.

SECOND. SECOND.

QUESTION FOR MR. WEINBERG.

FOR MR. BURMA IS.

ALL IN FAVOR.

I. NAY.

THE BOARD. STEPHEN WHITE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS CPC 25 2022.

IT IS LOCATED AT 2102 LADNER ROAD AND THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS EXCUSE ME, CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RS TWO.

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AGAIN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM RS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO RM TEN, SINGLE TO AN MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THE PURPOSE OF THE ARMED DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO APPLY TO AN AREA OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.

LOT SIZE AND OTHER RESTRICTIONS ARE INTENDED TO PROMOTE A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTAINING AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE FOR SUCH DEVELOPMENT.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CPC 25 2022 AND WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION FOR CPC 25 2022.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE IF ANY QUESTIONS ARE NEEDED.

EXPIRE. 50205 BABCOCK STREET REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE SECOND PART OF THIS APPLICATION.

THIS IS REZONING FROM THE EXISTING ZONING OF RS TWO TO R N TEN MULTIFAMILY.

THIS PROPERTY, BASED UPON THE AMOUNT OF UNITS, WILL END UP WITH 7.41 UNITS PER ACRE.

OVERALL DENSITY.

I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THE LAST CASE THAT WEREN'T ANSWERED THAT BOTH MY, MYSELF AND THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP.

SO I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE APPLICANT PLANS TO GET THE UTILITY TO THIS PROJECT.

SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM.

THE GOOD EVENING AGAIN. SO THE WATER IS CURRENTLY OUT ON FALLON AND LADNER.

THERE IS AN EIGHT INCH MAIN OUT THERE.

WE WILL EXTEND THAT AND LOOP IT THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION.

WE HAVE HAD TALKS WITH HEALTH FIRST.

THEY ARE AT THE TABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANYTHING, ANY CONCRETE AGREEMENTS YET, BUT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN US POTENTIALLY LOOPING IT OVER TO MED PLEX PARKWAY THAT HAS A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM TO IT AS WELL AS FOR SEWER.

WE ARE IN TALKS WITH THEM AS WELL TO TIE INTO THEIR PRIVATE SYSTEM.

THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE A PUBLIC LIFT STATION ALONG THE 82, THE MOMENTUM 82 CANAL RIGHT AWAY.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT A VERY LONG FORCE MAIN RUN ALONG THE CANAL BANK OVER TO BABCOCK, WHERE THERE IS.

THAT'S THE CLOSEST PUBLIC SEWER ACCESS.

SO IT WOULD ALL BE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER CONNECTED OFF SITE TO THE CLOSEST ACCESSIBLE POINT.

SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.

ONE IS TO RUN TO THE HOSPITAL, WHICH THAT'S GETTING ITS ACCESS TO AND FROM MALABAR ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT? IT WOULD BE LOOPED EITHER WAY.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE FROM LADNER AT PHALEN OVER TO THE SUBDIVISION.

AND THERE MAY BE A SECONDARY POINT.

WE'VE TALKED TO UTILITIES, THE CITY UTILITY DEPARTMENT, AND THEY SAY THERE IS A NEED TO HAVE THE SYSTEM LOOPED, THAT THAT KIND OF WAS THE CATALYST OF US REACHING OUT TO HEALTH FIRST AND SEEING IF WE COULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

RIGHT. AND SO THE OTHER POTENTIAL YOU DESCRIBED IS PUTTING THE PIPE ACTUALLY IN THE CANAL, LIKE IT'S ONE OF THOSE PIPES THAT'S LIKE SUSPENDED OVER THE CANAL.

SO THE WHOLE SERVICE IS GOING TO BE ON AN EXPOSED PIPE.

NO, THE WATER WOULD NOT BE IN THE RIGHT WAY.

I CAN'T REALLY FATHOM A SITUATION WHERE THE WATER WOULD GO IN THE IN THE CANAL RIGHT AWAY.

THAT WOULD BE THE FORCE MAIN WRONG.

REFERRING TO THE OK.

NO, IT WOULD RUN PARALLEL ON THE SOUTH IN THE IN THE THE ACCESSIBLE DRIVE THERE.

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AS YOU GO TO THE WEST, THERE'S ANOTHER MILLBURN TILLMAN CANAL THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE OF THE HOSPITAL.

BUT THAT HAS KIND OF LIKE A LAND BRIDGE THERE.

THERE'S SOME DRAINAGE AND THERE'S SOME OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THERE ALREADY.

BURY THE PIPE IN THE CANAL.

EASEMENT IN THE CANAL RIGHT AWAY ON THE ON THE EMBANKMENT.

THAT'S CORRECT. I UNDERSTOOD. BUT A BURIED PIPE AT THAT.

IT WOULD BE BURIED. YES, THERE WOULD BE NO AERIAL AERIAL PIPES WHATSOEVER.

THANK YOU. AND MY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS, ARE THERE ANY FEASIBLE ENTRANCES TO THIS PROPERTY THAT DO NOT INCLUDE LADDER AVENUE? IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.

KNOW WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH THOSE OWNERS, BUT NOTHING'S GUARANTEED THERE LADNER IS IS THE THE PUBLIC EXIT THAT'S BASICALLY HOW THIS IS ILLEGAL LOT IS THAT IS THE ACCESS POINT TO A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY RIGHT NOW PRIVATE PROPERTY THERE'S HEALTH FIRST PROPERTY HERE TO THE WEST.

RIGHT. THAT'S PRIVATELY OWNED BY HEALTH FIRST.

AGREED. IS IT FEASIBLE IN SOME SORT OF SCENARIO THAT YOU COULD ACCESS YOUR PROPERTY FROM THEIRS IF IN THE ENDEAVOR TO HELP THEM INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THEIR SYSTEM? IT IS POSSIBLE THERE'S SOME WETLAND, ENVIRONMENTAL THOSE THOSE ISSUES ON SOME OF THAT UNDEVELOPED LAND OVER THERE ARE THE SAME THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT HERE, BUT WE'D HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES DONE, WETLAND STUDIES DONE.

WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM THAT IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS.

SO IT COULD BE DONE.

OKAY, UNDERSTOOD.

I JUST TRIED TO BRING THESE THINGS UP TO MAKE IT MAKE IT KNOWN AND UNDERSTOOD.

AND IN THE LIGHT, HOW INTERESTING LOGISTICALLY THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE AND HOW CREATIVE WE'LL HAVE TO GET WITH SOLUTIONS.

BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO OVEREMPHASIZE THAT CREATIVITY IS ON HIGH TO LOWEST IMPACT TO THESE RESIDENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS EXTREMELY TOO DENSE PROJECT.

NOW IT JUST.

TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THIS PROJECT.

I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THE OUT FILL MATERIAL MOVING OUT OF FALLON AND THEN EVERYTHING IN MOVING IN FALLON.

SO I JUST REALLY WOULD HAVE LOVED AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE PREVIOUS TWO TO ZOOM OUT AND UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BUILD IT.

NOT DIRECTLY IMPACTING THESE FOLKS LIVES FOR FOR FOR MANY MONTHS.

BUT I HONESTLY DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIT 85 HOUSES ON IT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO BUILD ROADS.

SO THAT LOGIC DOESN'T ADD.

AND I DO THINK THAT THE ROUGHLY 40 HOUSES THAT YOU COULD HAVE BUILT ON IT IN A SUBDIVISION MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME SOME MERITS.

BUT AGAIN, MY PERSONAL POINTS ARE MOOT.

I'M OUTNUMBERED HERE, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW ALL THESE THINGS THAT AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AND IF IT GETS THROUGH COUNCIL, I REALLY HOPE YOU CONSIDER DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO BE A KIND NEIGHBOR TO THESE FOLKS BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THEY DESERVE AT THE LEAST.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO BUILD THAT ROAD OVER THERE, BUT IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD ON THAT PROPERTY.

AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION ACCESS, WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO MULDER AND TILMAN ABOUT USING THEIR RIGHT OF WAY AS CONSTRUCTION ACCESS THAT WOULD TAKE ANY OF THAT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC OFF OF LADNER OR OFF OF FALLON.

THAT WOULD BE VERY NICE. YEAH, THAT'S.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

HAVE YOU ALREADY SPOKEN TO TO MIKE MCCABE, THE ENGINEER, AND MILBURN TILLMAN? I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH HIM THIS MORNING ABOUT EXERCISING OUR RIGHT OF WAY, ABOUT ABOUT ACCESS, KIND OF WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY THERE.

IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A PARALLEL USE PERMIT.

AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, SO WE'LL SEE.

YEAH. OH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S NOT A SLAM DUNK.

WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE IN THERE POTENTIALLY USING.

ANY IDEA HOW MUCH OF A DISTANCE YOU'RE TALKING TO ACCESSING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY? IF WE RUN OUT TO BABCOCK, IT'S I'D SAY, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A HALF MILE OR SO.

IT'S A GOOD DISTANCE, BUT WE WOULD BE IN THERE POTENTIALLY WITH THE FORCE MAIN.

SO, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO KIND OF KIND OF CLEAN OUR MAKE OUR BED WHEN WE'RE DONE ANYWAY SO WE COULD MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE, SOME STABILIZATION, THAT SORT OF THING, TO MAKE YOUR MAINTENANCE, ONGOING MAINTENANCE, A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR YOU AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WELL, THAT'S IT. AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, AND WE'VE ALL GONE THROUGH IT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

I DON'T WANT TO TURN INTO THIS OLD GIANT MACHINE, BUT TO JUST CLARIFY, ON THE LADNER ROAD, IT IS SO

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SO WHEN US GOING FROM BUTLER INTO LADNER AND YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL OUR OUR NEIGHBOR GOES BY US AND THEN.

WE GO IN.

WE TAKE TURNS.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LITERALLY PUTTING TONS OF TRAFFIC.

THROUGH THIS, LITERALLY THIS, THIS.

BOTTLENECK. IS RIDICULOUS.

AND THEN, LIKE ONE PERSON SAID, THAT FRICKIN INTERSECTION, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE FOUR CARS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU HAVE TO LAY OFF AND THEN IT GOES DOWN THE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST PEOPLE SHOULDN'T JUST PUT IT ALL ON OUR COPS ABOUT THEM SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T.

THEY NEED TO WATCH THE ROAD BECAUSE THOSE COPS DO WATCH THE ROAD ON FALLON.

THEY THEY EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

YOU KNOW, CHECK IT AND EVERYTHING.

BUT THE THING IS.

IT JUST COME SOME THINGS COME TO COMMON SENSE AND ACTUALLY DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

THANK YOU.

NOW ONE QUESTION.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE TO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

NOT THIS GENTLEMAN BECAUSE HE'S ON OUR SIDE.

IF THIS WAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD YOU WANT THIS? IN YOUR BACKYARD.

WOULD YOU WANT ALL THIS EXCESS TRAFFIC? ALL THESE THESE EXTRA PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO INTEREST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN THERE 21 YEARS.

I PLAN TO RETIRE.

I GOT TEN MORE YEARS AND I PLAN TO TRAVEL.

AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, KIDS, IF YOU NEED A PLACE TO COME, STAY, HERE'S YOUR HOUSE.

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? I'M GOING TO TELL THEM, OH, YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THE TENANTS.

BUT WOULD YOU GUYS WANT THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD, YOUR FRONT DOORSTEP? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I LIVE RIGHT ON THE CANAL.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME I GOT TO SEE A DUMP TRUCK? IF THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THAT.

TILLMAN RIGHT AWAY. I GOT TO LISTEN TO A DUMP TRUCK EVERY SINGLE MORNING AND NIGHT AND EVENING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RUN ON A CERTAIN SCHEDULE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAULING DIRT LEFT AND RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS TRAFFIC.

WHAT KIND OF PEACE AM I GIVING MY KIDS? WHAT KIND OF PIECE AM I GOING TO HAVE? LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT TEN YEARS LEFT.

I'VE SERVED THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO FINISH MY TEN YEARS IN PEACE AND ENJOY IT.

AND THEN ONCE I GET TO MY RETIREMENT, LIKE THE REST OF THESE FOLKS HERE.

I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM.

I ACTUALLY DO. I'M YOUNG ENOUGH TO WHERE I COULD TURN AROUND AND SELL MY HOUSE.

I CAN SELL IT AND I CAN MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT PALM BAY RIGHT NOW, I WOULDN'T EVEN LIVE IN THE PALM BAY ANYMORE.

IF THIS IS WHAT IT'S COMING TO, IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO TAKE GOOD, OLD FASHIONED, GOOD, HEARTY HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO START JUST LETTING ANYBODY THAT HAS A LITTLE CASH JUST DROP IT DOWN AND SAY, HEY, LET'S REZONE THIS.

THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

AND I'M TERESA KECK.

AND. MY HOME IS PAID FOR.

I'VE WORKED HARD FOR IT.

YOU ARE JUST WILLING TO THROW OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AWAY.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A BEAUTIFUL AREA WE'VE GOT.

AND YOU WANT THESE AND THE PICTURES THEY LOOK LIKE.

LOW INCOME HOUSING.

THAT'S WHAT THOSE PICTURES LOOK LIKE.

COME ON, GUYS.

HAVE A HEART FOR US.

HAVE THEM ALREADY.

MAKE THEM MAKE A PLAN WHERE THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE.

PLEASE SAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR US.

AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THINGS THAT ARE WORKED OUT.

I THINK THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ISSUES THERE.

THIS IS RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS REALLY THE ISSUE THAT ZONING.

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BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE ISSUES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH GOING FORWARD ON IT.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE CPC 25 2022.

SO I COULD. I.

NAY.

IN THE END. STEPHEN WHITE PRINCIPAL PLANNER, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

I'LL GIVE A SECOND. LET IT CLEAR OUT.

THEIR CASES.

SEP 27, 2022, IS A PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH OF AND SOUTH OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL, NORTHEAST AND IN THE VICINITY OF WEST DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.

THE CURRENT SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 8.94 ACRES, AND THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS BAYFRONT MIXED USE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

LAND USE FROM BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE.

AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A CHANGE TO BAYFRONT MIXED USE.

THE PROJECT IS IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT GOALS OF ONE, TWO AND EIGHT.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CP 27 2022.

WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION ON THE APPROVAL OF CP 27 2022 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE AS WELL.

HIS BOARD AND ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NONE. EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS BRUCE MOIR.

I'M PRESIDENT OF MV ENGINEERING, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS A REALLY A SECOND PIECE OF THE PUZZLE FOR THE BAYFRONT.

THIS APPLICANT IS ALSO UNDER CONTRACT FOR PARCELS ON THE EAST SIDE OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AND IS NOW UNDER CONTRACT FOR THESE PARCELS THAT ARE ON THE WEST SIDE AND TO COMBINE THEM.

THEIR PLAN IS TO DO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE ON THE TOTAL PROPERTY.

SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET THE LAND USE CHANGE TO BE WNMU SO WE CAN DO A MIXED USE AND GET THE COMMERCIAL IN THERE ALONG WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WE'LL TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS THE REZONING, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE VISION OF THE BAYFRONT AREA. SO WE UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU. WAR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? THEY OPPOSED.

IN FAVOR FOR YOU.

HEY. COME ON UP.

I'M DALE STEELE. WE OWN THE PROPERTY AT 1632 WATER DRIVE.

IT WOULD BE JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE BMA AND THE BMV.

SO POSSIBLY SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNCIL CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME BECAUSE I'VE GOT THIS BIG FISH WANTS TO REDEVELOP ALL THIS AREA AND I GOT THIS ONE LITTLE

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WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHTS TO WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY.

THERE IS AN ARTESIAN WELL THAT IS JUST ON THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.

WE HAD THE RIGHTS THAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THAT WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT AS WELL.

WE HAVE A SHARED DRIVEWAY BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES.

SO THAT WOULD BE ON THE NEXT SECTION, I'M SURE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE TO THE NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY.

WE'RE JUST RIGHT BETWEEN THEIRS ZONE AND THE PALM PUB AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDES.

BUT WE ARE JUST ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHETHER I'M OPPOSED TO IT.

I'M I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR PROPERTY WHEN THE BIG FISH COMES IN AND STARTS DEVELOPING ALL OF THIS.

HERE WE HAVE THIS 1929 VINTAGE HOUSE THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD? NO, I DIDN'T. YES, MA'AM.

AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK IN THIS? THAT WE'LL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

YES, MA'AM. I BELIEVE IF I'M CORRECT, MR. STEELE LIVES ON THE EAST SIDE OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL, SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN KNOWN TO BE IMU.

SO THIS IS WEST OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL, ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS ALONG BOTH SIDES OF WHAT IS AN UNIMPROVED RIGHT OF WAY CALLED CANYON AVENUE. SO.

THE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IT WILL REALLY BE BASED ON THE ZONING THAT WAS JUST APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE BMI VISION.

SO WE WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THE CITY'S CODES AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY JUST PASSED.

AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA FOR SOME CHANGES IN THAT BMI, BUT SO WE'LL BE COMPLYING WITH ALL THE CITY CODES AND BMI.

SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO.

YOU KNOW, IT IS IT DOES REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL COMPONENT AND WE WILL HAVE THAT, AND I'M SURE WE WILL EXCEED THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

SO YOU WILL SEE A REALLY NICE, UPSCALE, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. I'M SURE MANY QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MOYA, IF I MAY. SARAH, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT CAN YOU, WITH A BROAD BRUSH, PAINT ME WHAT YOU'RE BUILDING HERE? YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO BE HEAVY ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, POSSIBLY A HOTEL, SOME MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND SOME RETAIL.

AND AND FORGIVE ME, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLOSE SOME SOME LOOSE ENDS SO I UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PROJECT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

BUT DOES THIS INVOLVE ABANDONING A PORTION OF WATER STREET OR WATER DRIVE? NO, NO. THIS WILL BE THIS WILL INVOLVE ABANDONING THE THE PIECE OF KENNY WEST OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL THAT IS UNIMPROVED AND SERVES NO ACCESS PURPOSE.

DOES THAT ALSO VACATE ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL SOUTH OF THAT AS WELL? THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR KENNY, THAT IS EAST OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL HAS ALREADY BEEN VACATED.

RIGHT. GOT YOU.

SO IS ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL GOING TO STILL EXIST FROM THIS PROJECT? YES, SIR. WE'RE NOT.

YEAH, WE'RE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT.

WE'LL BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.

YES. JUST LIKE A SMALL A SMALLER PORTION OF IT ON THE EAST SIDE.

AND THEN THE BIGGER ON THIS WESTERN.

ON THE WEST, WE'RE TALKING. YES. YES, SIR.

OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING A MIXED USE TO AN APPROPRIATE AREA IN OUR ANSWER.

I APPRECIATE IT. BEFORE THE QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. OR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST? UM. NOW BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD OR A MOTION OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE CP 27 2022.

SECOND. SECOND.

QUESTION MY MR. WEINBERG SEGMENT BY MR. OBAMA. ALL IN FAVOR I OPPOSED.

THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

BASED. GOOD EVENING.

AND STEPHEN WHITE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

CASE BEFORE YOU A CPP'S 27 TO 2022.

IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF AND SOUTH OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL, NORTHEAST AND IN THE VICINITY OF WEST DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST.

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THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM THE B-MOVIE DISTRICT TO THE BAYFRONT.

MIXED USE. THE REQUEST.

DOES PROVIDE AREAS FOR THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ATTRACT FUNCTIONAL, ATTRACTIVE AND FUNCTIONAL MIX OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL. THE RATIO FOR RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM OF 20%.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CPC 27 2022.

WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION FOR CPC 27 2022.

STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CNN. THANK YOU, BRUCE MOYER, AGAIN.

SO THIS IS THE COMPANION REQUEST FOR THE ACTUAL REZONING TO MAKE THE BMI ZONING MATCH, THE NOW BEING REQUESTED APPROVAL FOR THE BMI LAND USE, WHICH YOU JUST RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR.

AND THERE WAS ONE THING I DID WANT TO BRING UP, BECAUSE IT MAY BE IT MIGHT AFFECT MR. STEEL IS THE THE LEGAL AND THE AND THE ACREAGE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS CORRECT.

BUT THE THE EXHIBIT IS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE POND.

THAT'S THE COUNTY'S POND.

SO IT DOES NOT GO THAT FAR DOWN.

SO IT WILL NOT BE IN FRONT OF HIS PROPERTY.

IT'LL IT'LL. IT STOPS.

YEAH. RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THAT, THAT ARROW IS, IF YOU TAKE THAT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS, SO IT'S A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE ON THE SKETCH, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS IS CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IS A LITTLE DECEIVING ON THE MAP.

SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. WORM? YEAH, BRUCE, IF YOU WOULD ASSURE HIM THAT THIS WILL HAVE NO EFFECT ON HIS ARTESIAN, WELL, RIGHTS.

YEAH. SO ANY LEGAL RIGHTS HE HAS ON THE PROPERTY OBVIOUSLY WILL BE WILL BE ACCEPTED, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOT IMPACT ANY OF HIS LEGAL RIGHTS.

THANK YOU. I'M SURE I DO HAVE AN INQUIRY POTENTIALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS STAFF.

I'M JUST READING BASICALLY THE TITLE OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND IT'S JUST NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT WE'RE DOING SO FAR AS IT'S A IT'S A REZONING FROM B-MOVIE TO B-MOVIE.

THAT'S THE SAME DISTINCTIONS AS THE COMP PLANS.

I'M JUST I'M VERY CONFUSED WHEN I LOOK AT ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

IT DOESN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO I'VE LOST I'VE LOST TRACK OF THE PROCESS HERE.

SO THIS PROJECT IS PART OF A IF IT'S OKAY IF I SPEAK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, IT'S PART OF A LARGER PROJECT THAT HE WAS MENTIONING BEFORE WITH EARLIER REZONING THAT'S HAPPENED.

THIS IS ALLOWING FOR THAT PROJECT TO COME TO FRUITION BY MATCHING IT.

ZONING DISTRICTS, THE B-MOVIE AND B-MOVIE DISTRICTS ARE SEPARATED BOTH AT THE FUTURE LAND USE LEVEL AND AT THE ZONING LEVEL BY THEIR DISTINCTIONS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH A FUTURE LAND USE AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ZONING AMENDMENT.

THESE TWO TOGETHER ARE ALLOWING FOR HIM TO COME TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER PARCELS SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE THAT FULL SCALE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE IN CONCERT WITH THE MIXED USE NATURE OF THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS MORE IN CONCERT WITH THE VISION OF THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE VISION VISION RATHER THAN THE VILLAGE, JUST DUE TO THE DENSITY AND INTENSITIES OF BOTH THOSE DISTRICTS PRESCRIBED OUTLINED.

OK. I APPRECIATE THE THE EXPLANATION.

I FIND THAT IT'LL PROBABLY COME IN HANDY IN SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS AS WE MOVE ON WITH THE BAYFRONT.

I GUESS I'M JUST STILL CONFUSED BY LOOKING AT THE DESCRIPTION.

IT LITERALLY DOESN'T SAY THAT, LIKE IT JUST DESCRIBES WHO THE PARTIES ARE AND IT JUST DESCRIBES WHO THE PROPERTY IS AND IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO I JUST I'VE WE'VE AS A BOARD RE HOSTED, I THINK FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WERE RENDERED MOOT DUE TO ADMINISTRATIVE ERRORS.

I JUST WANT TO BRING WHAT I'M SEEING TEXTUALLY AS NOTHING TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION NOW BEFORE WE SEND ANOTHER ITEM THROUGH AND HAVE TO REVISIT IT.

THAT ON THE SUMMARY OF THE REQUEST ON PAGE TWO.

ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE? I'M JUST THINKING FROM LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT ON THE LEGAL ADVERTISING, WHICH IS WHAT PAGE LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT IS CORRECT.

WHAT IS LISTED ON THE FRONT PAGE, I DO NOT BELIEVE IS THE COMPLETE LEGAL.

WE WILL VERIFY THAT BEFORE MOVING IT TO COUNSEL.

HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO BRING SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

THAT'S WHERE I AM. SO THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING THAT'S AT PLAY IN THE BAYFRONT. YES, SIR.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE.

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IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST OR OPPOSED? SIR? AND THIS MAP, IT APPEARS THAT YOUR NAME.

OH, THE RECORD. THEY'LL STEAL.

I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 1632.

WATER DRIVE RIGHT NEAR THIS.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS MAP, AND THERE'S A RETENTION POND THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THOSE HASH MARKS.

AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY PLAN ON FILLING IN THAT RETENTION POND.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT THERE IS A BROOK THAT RUNS FROM THAT RETENTION PROM THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AND THEN OUT TO THE INDIAN RIVER.

AND I BELIEVE THAT ALL BELONGS TO THE ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT, ST JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.

YES, MA'AM. VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH WITH THIS.

SO WE WERE THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THIS POND.

THIS IS A POND THAT WAS BUILT BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR TREATMENT OF UPSTREAM.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY LARGE BASIN THAT FLOWS UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS OF THIS POND.

AND THERE'S A BIO FILTER.

SO IT TREATS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY UNTREATED WATER AND THEN IT DISCHARGES UNDER ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL THROUGH A POSSIBLY A NATURAL STREAM AND EVENTUALLY TO THE RIVER.

AND IT TREATED ALL THAT WATER THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY UNTREATED.

SO THE PLAN IS TO JUST TO LEAVE THAT COMPLETELY INTACT.

IT'S BEEN PERMITTED, CONSTRUCTED AND PERMANENT THROUGH THE SAINT JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FOR STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY IN THE RIVER.

SO THAT WILL BE LEFT ALONE AND THEN WE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY ANY WORK DOWNSTREAM OF THAT ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST WILL BE DEALT WITH THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T IMPEDE ANY OF THAT RUNOFF THAT GOES FROM THE POND TO THE RIVER.

HM. CHAIR MASK MASCOT. CLARIFYING QUESTION, PLEASE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT DESCRIPTION, SIR.

JUST FOR ULTIMATE CLARIFICATION, THE POND IS YOUR PROPERTY.

IT JUST IT'S NOT.

IT'S GOING TO REMAIN NOT YOUR PROPERTY WILL REMAIN CITY PROPERTY, SO YOUR WATER WON'T TOUCH IT.

THAT'S THE PLAN, RIGHT? IF YOU DID IT RIGHT.

NO. RIGHT. BUT YOU WERE YOU WERE SPEAKING TO ITS MERITS AND WHAT IT SERVES.

AND THAT'S FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.

YOU'RE THE DARKER LINE NORTH.

YOU'RE GOING TO CONTAIN YOUR STORMWATER.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO INTERACT WITH THAT POND AT ALL.

CORRECT. UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM IF WE COULD PAUSE FOR A SECOND AND VERIFY THE LEGAL.

WE JUST WANT TO VERIFY IT BEFORE WE HAVE YOU GUYS VOTE ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY.

SO IT DOES NOT HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN.

AND WE DO LIKE WE'VE DONE FOR SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS IF WE COULD.

SO ASK FOR THAT GRACE BRIEF RECESS.

I'VE SEEN IT.

FIVE, 10 MINUTES.

I. RECESS FOR 5 MINUTES.

OKAY. BACK TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS OR EMOTION.

OKAY. WELL, I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS IS ALL PART OF THE BAYFRONT AND A REVITALIZATION WHICH HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TIME COMING.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE CPC 27 2022.

OCEAN DRIVE A SECOND.

SECOND. COMMISSIONED BY MR. WEINBERG SAID GOODBYE, MR. BOEREMA. ALL IN FAVOR.

I OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT CASE. WELL.

OKAY. OUR NEXT CASE IS TW DASH 29, DASH 2022.

IT IS INITIATED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE LOCATION IS SPECIFICALLY IN THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT AS THIS APPLIES TO THE CODIFIED LANGUAGE FOR THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE AREA.

THE SPECIFIC REQUEST IS TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW PERMITTED USES ON A PARCEL OF TEN ACRES OF AREA IN THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT TEN ACRES OR MORE THAT IS IN THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT.

CURRENTLY, IF YOU ARE DEVELOPING ON TEN OR MORE ACRES IN A GIVEN TIME, THAT WOULD RESULT IN A CONDITIONAL USE.

SO IN THIS REQUEST, WE WOULD BE ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE TO DEVELOP ON TEN ACRES OR MORE.

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SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 29 2022 AND REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 2922 AS WELL.

AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. QUESTION FROM THE BOARD.

GO AHEAD, MR. CEAUSESCU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

MR. ANDERSON.

WHY? WHY DO WE DO THIS? PAINT THE PICTURE FOR ME.

PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SCALE OF TEN ACRES OR LESS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE PHYSICALLY CONSTRAINED IN YOUR HORIZONTAL MIXTURE OF USES, BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR LOOKING AT A MORE CONSTRAINED AREA OF VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL NATURE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO GO VERTICAL IN YOUR MIXTURE.

USE IS MORE OFTEN CONCEPT.

THIS ALLOWS FOR FLUIDITY IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL.

IN THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT.

AS YOU'VE HEARD, SOME APPLICANTS ARE LOOKING TO BRING HOTELS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE MIXTURE IN A VERTICAL NATURE.

BUT THIS ALLOWS FOR THE HORIZONTAL NATURE AS WELL, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR MORE OF A TRANSITIONAL PHASE IN TERMS OF DENSITY AND INTENSITY THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT SO THAT IT WON'T TYPICALLY HAVE TOO MUCH OF A LACK OF TRANSITION IN THESE TERMS. AND THAT'S THE GENERAL INTENT OF THIS TYPE OF DESIGN, IS TO ALLOW FOR MORE FLUIDITY IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO HOW DOES THE CONDITIONAL USES ELIMINATE THAT FLUIDITY, SO TO SPEAK? HOW DOES IT HINDER THAT? SO THE CONDITIONAL USE CAN BE SEEN AS AN OBSTACLE FOR MANY DEVELOPERS, AND IT DOES ELONGATE THE PROCESS IN A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES, PARTICULARLY IF THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE ADDED TO THEIR PROJECT THROUGH CONDITIONS.

THESE CONDITIONS CAN BE ACTUALLY FOUND AT THE SITE PLAN LEVEL AS WELL, UNLESS THERE ARE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WOULD BE PREVAILING BEYOND ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.

BUT THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL ANYWAYS AND BEFORE THE BOARD OF COURSE.

SO IF IT WERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BEYOND A SITE PLAN, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU.

BUT THE IDEA IS TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS OUT MORE OF A SITE PLAN LEVEL ONCE IT RECEIVES THIS TYPE OF MIXTURE OF USES ATTRIBUTED TO IT THROUGH ENTITLEMENTS.

AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE ENTITLEMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING SPACED OUT AND AT LEAST ACCOUNTING FOR THE LEVELS OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THEM THROUGH THEIR ZONING DISTRICTS.

I GUESS LOOKING BEYOND.

OH, SORRY, DID YOU WANT TO ADD BEFORE I ASK? I DID WANT TO ADD JUST JUST A LITTLE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, AND THAT ACCORDING TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, HAVING THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE AND THEN HAVING IT AS A CONDITION OF TEN ACRES OF MORE IS A MOOT POINT BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED AND A CONDITION.

SO THAT'S WHY THE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT IS IN FRONT OF YOU, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A CONFLICT IN HOW THE TEXT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

IT DOES LEND ITSELF TO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION OF WONDERING IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

THE WAY THAT I'M INTERPRETING IT ON THE SURFACE IS THAT WE TAKE IT FROM ANYBODY WANTING TO EXPLORE SOME OF THESE PERMITTED USES TO NEEDING TO GO.

I'M GOING TO TALK BEYOND US TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SAY, YES, THAT ESTABLISHMENT CAN GO THERE.

THE THING THAT ALWAYS COMES TO MY HEAD, TO THE BAYFRONT IS A BREWERY, RIGHT? SOMEBODY WANTS TO MANUFACTURE AND AND SELL RIGHT THERE, BEER, ALCOHOL, WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO THEY WOULD COME BEFORE THE BODY AND THEY WOULD SAY, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO.

THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

I'M GOING VERTICALLY, I'M GOING HORIZONTALLY, WHATEVER.

AND THE COUNCIL AT THEIR PLEASURE WOULD SAY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GOOD USE IN THAT IN THIS EXACT SPACE DO IT DOESN'T I'M VIEWING THIS IS US LIFTING THAT PROCESS AND JUST BECAUSE AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF ALCOHOL MANUFACTURE DISTRIBUTION IS ON THESE USES YOU MIGHT TELL ME JUST BECAUSE THE USE IS ON THERE THAT IF SOMEONE COMES WITH A PROJECT, THEY CAN ROLL AND.

AM I RIGHT THERE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I GET HUNG UP.

SO TO PUT SOMETHING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE, REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AT TEN ACRES OR MORE SO THE TRADITIONAL SIZE FOR A COMMERCIAL PARCEL.

MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR, LET'S SAY, A LARGER SCALE COMMERCIAL PARCEL SUCH AS A HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL IS ROUGHLY ABOUT AN ACRE OR LESS.

SO THIS WOULD BE TEN TIMES THE LEVEL OF A SINGULAR ENTITY.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MORE HORIZONTAL NATURE OF THE MIXED USE.

A BREWERY? YES.

IF IT IS A PERMITTED USE AND I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, WOULD BE ABLE TO BE A PERMITTED USE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE.

BUT THEY WOULD BE ON ANYTHING UNDER TEN ACRES AS WELL.

SO I WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON FURTHERING THIS PORTION.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IT'S THE SIZE REQUIREMENT THAT'S REALLY DOING SOMETHING.

IT'S NOT THE USE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THAT STANDPOINT.

SO UNLESS THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT FURTHER, I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN ISSUE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT RESTRAINING SOMEBODY'S USE IN THEIR ENTITLEMENTS THROUGH THE CURRENT

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I THINK HE'S GOT ANYTHING TO ADD.

MR. ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK SO EITHER.

SO THAT BEING SAID, SIR, I JUST WANT TO FULLY UNDERSTAND, DO YOU THINK THAT LIKE A HOTEL PROPERTY OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT IS GOING TO TAKE UP GREATER THAN TEN ACRES? I JUST CAN'T FATHOM A PROJECT THAT BENEFITS FROM THIS.

I'M INTERESTED. I WANT TO MAKE OUR CODE RELEVANT.

I JUST CAN'T COMPREHEND A DIRECT BENEFICIARY OF THIS TEXTUAL AMENDMENT.

SURE. SO, FOR INSTANCE, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS 8.94 ACRES.

IT DOES HAVE A AN AGGLOMERATED PORTION OF A PARCEL ABUTTING IT ACROSS THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S GOING TO MOST LIKELY BE INGRAINED INSIDE OF IT.

THIS WOULD TRIP THAT TEN ACRE THRESHOLD.

THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE MORE OF A MIXTURE OF USES.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE FOR NOT SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE, BUT THE IDEA OF THE PROJECT ALLOWING FOR MORE OF A MIXTURE OF USES THAT CAN BE OVER A LARGER SCALE AREA.

THIS ALLOWS FOR US TO CONTROL THE WALKABILITY A LOT MORE, LOOKING AT THE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE NATURE OF THINGS AND SO FORTH AT A LARGER SCALE RATHER THAN MY NEWTON HAVING TO TRAVERSE THIS THROUGH EACH SMALL SCALE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THIS IS COME UP THREE TIMES IN THE SEVEN MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND SO THIS IS THE TIME TO ADDRESS IT AND ALLOW FOR SOME GREAT REDEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN IN THE BAYFRONT AREA.

AND SO BY MAKING THIS CORRECTION TO OUR TEXT, IT WILL ALLOW FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.

THANK YOU, SIR, AND THANK YOU AS WELL.

MS.. BERNARD, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IT. WORDS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST? MY NAME IS PAT DOW, SO I WAS UP HERE BEFORE.

MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HAVE TO FILL IN EVERY EMPTY SPACE IN THIS AREA? WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? WHAT IS THE REAL PURPOSE BEHIND ALL THIS? TELL ME. IT SEEMS LIKE THE BUILDER HAS THE UPPER HAND THAN THE RESIDENTS.

QUESTION. WHERE'S NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO POSE THE QUESTION TO THE BOARD.

IF ANYBODY, YOURSELF INCLUDED, CAN JUST PONTIFICATE JUST A LITTLE FURTHER HOW THEY INTERPRET THIS TEXTUAL AMENDMENT.

BECAUSE I JUST I WANT TO FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN MY LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING BEFORE I VOTE ON THE ITEM.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS A VERY STRONG LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HEAR IT.

WANT TO COMMENT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY IT'S PRETTY IN SIMPLE TERMS, THIS JUST MAKES SENSE.

IT'S FOR ANY PERMITTED USE WHICH IS ALLOWED.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL STEP, A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL, AS WELL AS THE PERMITTED USE APPROVAL.

SO THAT'S REALLY ALL IT IS.

IT'S CLEANING UP THE LANGUAGE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ELIMINATE AN ADDITIONAL STEP, WHICH REALLY WASN'T NECESSARY ANYWAY.

ONE TAKE. YES.

OKAY. THAT IS ALSO.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

MR. WEINBERG, I APPRECIATE IT.

MOTIONAL APPROVED PT 29 2022.

FORGOT. SECOND.

SURE MY MR. WEINBERG SECOND BY MR. WARMER. ALL IN FAVOR I OPPOSED.

WHO? PARIS GRIMSLEY.

AND 30, 20, 22.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS NEXT CASE, AGAIN, IS ONE INITIATED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST IS A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MODIFY THE APPLICABILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN TO EXPAND THEM TO INCLUDE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.

THIS IS A REQUEST MADE BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR THAT WE ARE FULFILLING, TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT OR NOT ALLOW CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS TO CIRCUMVENT THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN PROCESS AND ALLOW FOR MORE PARTICIPATION FROM OUR CITIZENRY.

OUR STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR STAFF?

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THIS IS GOING TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE IT SO THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THE PARTICIPATION STUDY BEFORE THEY COME FORTH WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, BEFORE IT IS FOUND SUFFICIENT FOR A REVIEW.

IT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN IN CONCERT WITH THEIR APPLICATION FOR IT TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR IT TO PROCEED FOR REVIEW BEFORE IT'S BROUGHT BEFORE YOU. ALL THIS ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN OUR REVIEW PROCESS OF THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, ITS OUTPUT, ITS OUTPUT, AS WELL AS ALSO EXTENDING THE DURATION OF TIME BETWEEN THE MEETING AND THAT CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR RESIDENTS AND OTHERS AFFECTED BY SUCH DEVELOPMENTS TO HAVE MORE TIME TO PREPARE THEMSELVES BEFORE COMING TO A PUBLIC HEARING.

GOTCHA. AND THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE 500 FOOT RULE.

CORRECT. GOTCHA. SO THEY HAVE TO INVITE EVERYBODY THAT TOUCHES THE 500 FOOT RADIUS TO THIS EVENT.

AND IT HAS TO TAKE PLACE AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR NOTES AND EVERYTHING AND THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THE NOTES FROM IT, THE SUMMARY OF IT WITH THEIR APPLICATION FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. SO IT WILL MAINTAIN THE SAME INTEGRITY AS IT DOES HAVE FOR THE PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND CONDITIONAL USES, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, WHICH WILL TRANSITION TO THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENT LEVELS.

YES, UNDERSTOOD. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE I DO GIVE IT BACK, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

I WANT THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT. THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF IF THEY DO THIS THIS PARTICIPATION PLAN BEFORE.

ARE YOU SAYING BEFORE THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIVISION, BEFORE IT'S FOUND SUFFICIENT FOR REVIEW SO THEY CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, BUT THAT APPLICATION WILL NOT BE DEEMED SUFFICIENT FOR REVIEW OR PROCEEDING TO A PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND PROVIDED TO US. THERE HAVE BEEN TIME PERIODS WHERE THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN HAS BEEN HELD CLOSER TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAN IS OF COMFORT FOR MANY RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THE SUBMISSION OF THAT CORRESPONDING PLAN COMING TO OUR DEPARTMENT BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE DELAYED THAN BEHOOVES US FOR PREPARING IT FOR ALL OF YOU AND GOING FORWARD FOR A STAFF REPORT.

OKAY. SO GO AHEAD.

SIR. YEAH. THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN IS AN OUTLINED METHOD OF HOW THE CITIZENS IN THE AREA THAT ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE AFFECTED BY SUCH A DEVELOPMENT TO COME TO A MEETING THAT THE DEVELOPER HOLDS SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN EXPLAIN THE PROJECT TO THEM, AND THEN THE CITIZENS CAN THEN VOICE THEIR OPINIONS, THEIR FEARS AND SO FORTH, SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN BE RECEPTIVE AND ATTEMPT TO MITIGATE ANY UNWANTED RISKS.

BUT.

NOW.

SURE. SO THE MOST DIRECT WAY FOR ME TO ADDRESS THAT IS TO FOCUS ON WHAT LEVEL OF ANALYSIS AND WHAT LEVEL OF APPLICATION WE'RE AT.

SO WHILE THERE ARE DEFINITE ISSUES OF TRAFFIC AND HAVING TO MITIGATE THESE, THEY DO HAPPEN AT A LATER STAGE WHEN LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT IS BEING PROVIDED AT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS LESS THAN A SITE PLAN.

THE SITE PLAN IS WHERE WE START TO LOOK INTO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, LOOKING INTO MAKING SURE THAT ALL MITIGATION FOR ANY ENDANGERED SPECIES IS OCCURRING, ALL THAT STARTS TO OCCUR AT THAT SITE PLAN PHASE FOR A TRADITIONAL ZONING DISTRICT.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT WILL MODIFY THE REQUIREMENTS.

APPLICATIONS AND THESE ENTITLEMENTS ARE PRE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHILE YOU'RE BEING ENTITLED TO SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT NECESSITATE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DEVELOP, THESE PROPERTIES MAY NOT BE DEVELOPED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE SITE PLAN IS FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE DO THINGS SUCH AS TRAFFIC ANALYZES WE'RE TAKING IN THE CURRENT CATCHMENT, WHEREAS IF WE DID A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS NOW AND THEY DON'T DEVELOP FOR TEN, 15 YEARS AND THEY USE THE OLD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CURRENT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE FLOW OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING WITH HOW OUR ANALYZES ARE GOING TO COME THROUGH.

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SO THE PLANS THAT THE CITIZENS WILL SEE FOR THE MOST PART WILL BE AT THE HIGH LEVEL, BUT IT WILL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE PROJECT AT THE EARLIEST STAGES SO THAT THEY CAN VOICE THEIR OPINIONS EARLY, MAKE SURE THAT THEIR THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD TO THE BEST OF THE ABILITY OF THE DEVELOPER IN THE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, SO FORTH.

CORRECT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? YOU. MOORE IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? MR. BRENNAN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I JUST CURIOUS, I'VE SEEN THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE RADIUS, IT'S A 500 FOOT AND YOU'RE LOOKING AND SAY, WELL, THE NEXT RESIDENT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CANAL, SO THAT MAKES THEM TEN FEET AWAY.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE AFFECTED RESIDENT, BUT THEY'RE WITHIN THAT 500 FOOT RADIUS AS IT'S I KNOW YOU CAN'T KEEP EXPANDING THE SIZE, BUT THE RADIUS ITSELF IS FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE OR IS IT FROM THE CENTER OF THEIR PROPERTY? IT'S JUST HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT THAT RADIUS IS GOING TO BE? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT MAPS THAT COME DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SITUATION WAS.

I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT LOOKS LIKE DIFFERENT SIZED BULL'S EYE AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

SO IF IT'S 500 FEET FROM THE BORDER OF THEIR PROPERTY, THAT'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT IMPACT.

SO JUST HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DETERMINE WHO WHO GETS NOTIFIED? THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? HER NAME IS SUSAN CONNOLLY.

AND AGAIN, I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY, THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLANS, YOU'RE TRYING TO STANDARDIZE IT WHERE THAT HAPPENS CLOSER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS AND THAT ALL APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD HAVE A CITIZENS PARTICIPATION PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT IS NOW.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OK. AND THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION PLANS THEN.

I'VE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THAT.

I WANT TO.

SO I'M HEARING AGAIN, THAT IS THE PURPOSE, LIKE WITH TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE, SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES.

NO ABOUT IT WOULD BE A WAY OF ASSISTING THE GROWTH AND MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

BASICALLY SAYING, HEY, BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL AND BEFORE IT GETS INTO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.

LIKE WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING TONIGHT THAT THESE PROBLEMS GET TAKEN CARE OF IN THE PROCESS OF THE BUILDING? WELL, NO, THEY NEED TO BE HANDLED PRIOR, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT IS TO START IT SOONER IN THE PROCESS.

AND THE IDEA BEING THAT THE POTENTIAL BUILDER WILL MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS SURROUNDING AND SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT OUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ARE AND THIS IS OUR INTENT PRIOR TO GOING BEFORE A PUBLIC BOARD.

YEAH. AND THAT IS RECORDED AND THAT IS BROUGHT IN AND BECOMES PART OF THE RECORD.

AND AGAIN, THAT IS FOR EVERYBODY.

THERE WOULD BE NO EXEMPTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

EXCUSE ME. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RADIUS.

ABSOLUTELY. THE RADIUS IS DONE BY THE BREVARD COUNTY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE. EVERYBODY HAS TO DO THAT.

IT'S CALLED A RADIUS MAP PACKAGE.

IT'S A $40 FEE WHERE THEY GO AND THEY GET THE RADIUS MAP AND IT HAS THE MAILING LABELS THAT GO WITH IT.

AND SO EVERYBODY IS REQUIRED TO USE THAT SAME EXACT DATA AND INFORMATION FROM THAT SAME EXACT LOCATION.

SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CREATE THAT 500 FOOT RADIUS OR BUFFER MAP WITH THE MAILING LABELS THAT GO AROUND IT.

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WAS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IT'S BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR EMOTION? I'M TERRY. YES.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL FROM COUNSEL.

ITEM NUMBER RT 30 DASH 2022.

SECOND. LISTEN IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

I OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ANDERSON. LET'S.

ALL RIGHT. FOR OUR FINAL CASE TONIGHT, WE HAVE 1030, 20, 22.

THIS IS AGAIN INITIATED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

IT IS TO MODIFY THE APPLICABILITY REQUIREMENT.

SORRY, THIS IS THE WRONG PART.

I APOLOGIZE. T 33 DASH 2022 AND THIS IS TO REPEAL THE SECTIONS ONE 69.01031 69.015 IN ENTIRETY, AS WELL AS TO MODIFY GUIDELINES FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

FOR THE ANALYSIS FOR THIS PORTION, THIS AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO REDUCE STORMWATER POLLUTION BY MAXIMIZING OPEN, GREEN AND PERVIOUS SPACE DURING DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OF A SITE. AND IT WILL ALLOW AND PROVIDE FOR A FOUNDATION FOR THE ADOPTION OF A SUBSEQUENT MANUAL FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE INTEGRATED MANAGEMENT PRACTICES KNOWN AS BEST PRACTICES, AS WELL AS INCENTIVES AND INDUCEMENTS THAT ENCOURAGE THE USE OF LOVE AND DEVELOPMENT.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 33 2022 AND REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS THIS CASE.

AND WE DO HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

IT'S ABSURD TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

NONE. DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? BUTTON. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. I JUST CURIOUS, SINCE IT'S A VOLUNTARY REQUEST.

WE'RE WE'RE WRITING UP AN ORDINANCE IS GOING TO KIND OF GUIDE US FOR A VOLUNTARY REQUEST.

IF IF IT'S VOLUNTARY, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THAT.

I WANT TO GO TO THE MAXIMUM IMPACT I CAN IF THEY'RE SEEING THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN IMPACT OR YOU'RE SEEING AN IMPACT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, THEN YOU SHOULD WRITE YOUR ORDINANCES COORDINATED TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM.

BUT YOU SAY, WELL, THIS IS A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT OR NOT, IT'S 100% VOLUNTARY.

SO WHY WASTE A TIME IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE REQUEST? YOU COULD ASK THE INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR PAPERWORK AND, HEY, WILL YOU PLEASE TRY TO BE NICE AND NOT IMPACT US? YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S MOOT WHEN IT'S VOLUNTARY.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS NECESSARY, MAKE IT A NECESSARY REQUIREMENT.

OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

FURTHER COMMENTS.

IT'S. UH.

I'LL DEFER TO OUR CITY ENGINEER IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING, JUST IN CASE THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THIS DOES REDUCE SOME OF THE NUANCES FOR THESE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENTS, FOR THE PROCESSES THEY GO THROUGH.

BUT I WOULD VOLUNTEER FOR HER TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IF SHE'D LIKE.

EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I'M NATALIE SHEBA. I AM ACTUALLY NOT THE CITY ENGINEER, BUT THANKS FOR THE.

THANKS FOR THE PROMOTION.

ENGINEER TWO WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND I AM ACTUALLY A BIG PROPONENT OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

HOWEVER, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS AT THIS TIME NOT A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

AND IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE BEST PRACTICES WILL PUT DEVELOPERS AND THEIR ENGINEERS IN A SITUATION THAT COULD COULD CREATE.

IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT ARE STATUTORY CHAPTER 62 330 FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, WHICH ADDRESSES OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS.

JUST RECENTLY IN 2020, THE CLEAN WATER ACT WAS PROMULGATED AND THAT SORT

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AND IN DOING SO, THAT TASK FORCE WITH FROM THE FDP AND VARIOUS OTHER PROFESSIONALS CAME TO CAME TO THE REALIZATION THAT WHAT'S BEING DONE AND THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T COME TO IT THEN, BUT WHAT'S BEING DONE CURRENTLY AND WHAT IS REGULATED CURRENTLY IS JUST NOT MEETING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL NEEDS, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE.

WELL, WE HAVE SPECIES MORTALITY AND IN AN ESTUARY AND AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE HAVE SEVERELY IMPAIRED WATER BODIES.

SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS OR SO, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH.

NOW THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND THE STATE LEVEL IS SORT OF THE THE BASELINE WE CAN GO OVER AND ABOVE THAT.

BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THIS ROOM WILL BE FILLED WITH DEVELOPERS SCREAMING AGAINST IT.

SO IF WE SORT OF INTRODUCE AND ENCOURAGE AND WORKSHOP AND EDUCATE AND AND PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, I THINK IT'LL HAPPEN NATURALLY AND IT'LL HAPPEN AT A PACE THAT EVERYONE CAN LIVE WITH. YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC AND AND AND DEVELOPERS BOTH.

SO THIS IS WHY IT IS AT THIS TIME VOLUNTARY.

HOWEVER, IF THE STATE, YOU KNOW, DOES, YOU KNOW, DECIDE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VOLUNTARY, AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE THIS INTRODUCTION, IF YOU WILL, AND WE INTEND TO DO PUBLIC WORKSHOPS WHERE WE WILL BE DOING INTRODUCTIONS TO LEAD TECHNIQUES, GETTING DEVELOPERS INPUT, SORT OF GETTING THEM AWAY FROM THE COOKIE CUTTER DESIGN THAT JUST HASN'T JUST HASN'T CUT IT FOR SEVERAL DECADES.

SO IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE TIME.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO OVERNIGHT.

SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR YOUR CONCERNS.

MR.. BATTEN WHERE WE'RE WORKING.

BUT IT'S IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT FIX.

AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YES, MA'AM. IS THE CITY CURRENTLY HAVE A MANUAL ON THIS? THE CITY DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE A MANUAL, BUT I AND OTHERS ARE WORKING ON A MANUAL.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'VE PULLED FROM THE AIR.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE GATHERED FROM CITIES WITH SIMILAR HYDRO GEOLOGY AND ALSO USING A STORMWATER BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE RULEBOOK, IF YOU WILL, THAT WAS PROPOSED IN DRAFT IN 2010, BUT AT THAT TIME WAS SHOT DOWN BY THE LEGISLATURE.

BUT I THINK I THINK WE'RE GETTING TO THAT POINT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BECOME MORE MAINSTREAM.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT MANUAL WITHIN A MONTH OR SO.

IT STATES IN SECTION THREE THAT THEY.

THE MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS OUTLINED IN THE CITY'S LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT YET.

HOW CAN ANYBODY EVEN.

APPROACH YOU TO GO BUY IT.

WELL, NOW YOU'RE ON.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I THINK WE WANT TO GET THIS TEXTUAL AMENDMENT AND AND THE MANUAL APPROVED ALMOST CONCURRENTLY.

THE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT MAY PROCEED IT BY A WE'RE LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER EARLY SEPTEMBER FOR THE MANUAL TO BE EXPECTED, AND IT IS APPROVED BY RESOLUTION RATHER THAN ORDINANCE.

SO IT REQUIRES ONE LESS PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THAT JUST GO TO CITY COUNCIL OR THROUGH THE BOARD.

UH, JUST CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RESOLUTION.

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THANK YOU, NATALIE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD.

OCEAN TO APPROVE T 33 2022.

IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY AND IT'S GOOD TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THIS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THAT MANUAL PRETTY SOON AND AND STANDARDIZE IT.

IT'S A GOOD THING I CAN.

PROMOTION IN THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

I THE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S CONCLUDES THE MEETING MOTION SESSION.

ADJOURN AND ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.