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SO. GOOD EVENING. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022 DASH 19 TWO ORDER.
THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY FATHER BRIAN TURNER OF THE CHURCH OF THE OF THE BLESSED REDEEMER.
AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE GIVEN BY OUR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? LET US PRAY.
GLORIOUS AND LOVING GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GATHER HERE THIS EVENING.
RANDALL LORD TO THIS COUNCIL, THE WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE COMPLEX INTERESTS AND ISSUES OF OUR TIME, THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE FORESIGHT OF WHAT IS TRULY NEEDED IN THIS CITY THAT WE ALL LOVE. A THIRST FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR ALL YOUR PEOPLE.
THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN THE MIDST OF DIVERSITY AND DISAGREEMENT.
AS WELL AS A SENSE OF PEACE AND JOY AND THEIR WORK TONIGHT.
I ASK THIS ALL IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON.
AMEN. WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT ROLL CALL.
MS.. LEFLER MAYOR MEDINA DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, HEAR MISS SHERMAN HERE.
MISS SMITH. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST WANTED TO TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING.
WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IS JOINING US BY PHONE.
SO WHEN YOU COME TO SPEAK, PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY IN THE MIC.
AND THAT'S FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US HERE ON THE DAIS.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THESE CHAMBERS.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
ARIANE, DEPUTY MAYOR.THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE MEMBER POSITION, ONE TERM EXPIRING ON THE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT PENSION PLAN BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ONE VACANCY ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT AT LARGE POSITION.
THANK YOU. WE'LL GO OVER AGENDA REVISIONS, MS..
[AGENDA REVISIONS]
SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.I ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR ITEMS TO ANNOUNCE.
THE FIRST IS THAT THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH IS CASE PD 26, 2022, HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE AUGUST 18TH, 2022 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, PENDING CONSIDERATION OF A RELATED TEXTUAL AMENDMENT.
THE SECOND ITEM IS LET'S TAKE ONE AT A TIME.
YES, SIR. I NEED A MOTION, SO MOVE.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
NEXT ITEM IS THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER TEN UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH IS CASE.
Q 24 2022 HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE JULY 21ST, 2022 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN ORDER FOR THE REQUEST TO COINCIDE WITH THE FINAL READINGS OF THE ACCOMPANYING REZONING AND TEXTUAL AMENDMENT CASES.
EMOTION IS ALMOST SECOND EMOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN AUSTEN.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO WITHDRAW FROM CONSENT.
WE'VE DRAWN. DID YOU SAY? YES, SIR. I NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVE. SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
YES, MA'AM. AND WHILE WHILE WE'RE ON THAT.
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, MAYOR.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT ITEM UP JUST AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, JUST BEFORE WE START PUBLIC HEARING.
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DID YOU SAY AFTER OR BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER PUBLIC.SO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT RIGHT BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS, CORRECT? ALL RIGHT, SIR, I GOT A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? COUNCILMAN FELIX. ARE YOU GOOD? ALL RIGHT, I'VE GOT A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU. IS THAT ALL, MA'AM? SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT ITEMS FIVE AND TEN, THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ITEMS FIVE AND TEN.
AND WE'LL BE WE'LL BE VISITING THOSE ITEMS AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
ANYONE HERE FOR ITEMS FIVE AND TEN.
ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]
SO WE'RE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS, AND THE VERY FIRST ONE I'LL BE CALLING UP WOULD BE THERESA LOPEZ.THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU.
SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE SAMUEL SEAH AND TERESA LOPEZ, JUST TO BRIEF YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THE EFFORTS THAT THEY MADE OVER DECADES. LISTEN.
I BELIEVE IN IN HONORING THOSE THAT SACRIFICED A LOT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT AND PROVIDE THAT RECOGNITION.
THIS IS ALL PART OF SAM LOPEZ'S LEGACY.
SO RECOGNIZING SAM AND TERESA LOPEZ, IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CAN YOU SAY IT ONE MORE TIME? THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
AND. WHEREAS, MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ PARTNERED WITH EQUAL OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION IN BRINGING 19 SUCCESSFUL DISCRIMINATION LAWSUITS AGAINST THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS.
AND. WHEREAS, MR. AND MRS. LOPEZ ESTABLISHED A BRANCH OF UTB UNITED THIRD BRIDGE, A NOT FOR PROFIT, NOT FOR PROFIT CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION IN 1994 TO ADDRESS COMPLAINTS OF DISCRIMINATION AND PRACTICES IN BREVARD COUNTY.
WHEREAS, ON NOVEMBER 16, 1997, SAMUEL AND TERESA ESTABLISHED BREVARD COUNTY'S FIRST ANNUAL PUERTO RICAN DAY PARADE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HOSTED BY UNITED THIRD BRIDGE.
AND. WHEREAS, IN 2013, SAMUEL AND TERESA LOPEZ BOUGHT SPANISH HISTORY TO PROVIDE COUNTY.
TOGETHER, THEY ACCOMPLISHED DECLARING THE JUAN PONCE DE LEON HISTORICAL LANDING SITE 1513, THE FIRST LANDING WHILE ALSO SERVING ON BREVARD COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION, WHERE SAMUEL WAS HONORED.
SAMUEL REENACTED THE LANDING OF JUAN PONCE DE LEON ON MELBOURNE BEACH AT THE 500 THE CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION AND WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HAVING THE PARK NAMED JUAN PONCE DE LEON PARK.
SAMUEL ALSO HAD THE STATUE CREATED AS A SYMBOL OF REPRESENTING A TRUE DISCOVERY.
OF FLORIDA. AFTER SAMUEL'S PASSING IN JANUARY 2021, BREVARD COUNTY HONORED HIM BY NAMING THE PAVILION AT THAT PARK IN MEMORY OF SAMUEL LOPEZ, FOUNDER OF THE ROYAL ORDER OF DON JUAN PONCE DE LEON.
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THAT DAY, MAN.
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COSTUME. OKAY. THAT IS THAT IS SPECIAL.WHEREAS IN 2014, SAMUEL AND TERESA BY HIS SIDE RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF SPECIAL CONGRESSIONAL RECOGNITION IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF HIS OUTSTANDING AND VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY SIGNED BY CONGRESSMAN ALAN GRAYSON.
AND. WHEREAS, IN 2017, TOGETHER THEY ESTABLISHED THE BREVARD COUNTY PUERTO RICAN RELIEF EFFORTS DUE TO THE DEVASTATION TO PUERTO RICO FROM HURRICANE MARIA.
OF COURSE, I REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT EFFORT AS WELL.
NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY THE VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE SAMUEL AND TERESA LOPEZ FOR ALL THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS AS A MARRIED COUPLE AND PARTNERS IN PASSION, IN COMMUNITY SERVICE AND WITNESS HEREOF.
THANK YOU. HE FORGOT TO MENTION WE WERE ALSO PARTNERS IN CRIME. AND ON BEHALF OF SAMUEL LOPEZ, MY PARTNER AND MYSELF, THANK YOU FOR THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND I'M HONORED TO ACCEPT IT ON BEHALF OF BOTH OF US.
THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, SAM, YOU AND I WERE ABLE TO DO WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE PARTICIPATION OF OUR PAST BOARD MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS.
THERE ARE TWO VOLUNTEERS HERE TODAY THAT I WOULD LIKE THEM TO STAND.
AND PAUL AND JOE LUGO, WHO STARTED FROM THE BEGINNING AND KEPT GOING.
THANK YOU. HE WANTS YOU TO COME UP.
NO, NO, NO. I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL FOR THEIR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF MY PARTNERSHIP AND ACHIEVEMENTS AS THE RIGHT HAND PERSON OF MY LATE HUSBAND.
BUT HE ALSO HAD A SECOND HAND, AND I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THAT.
THE PERSON HE CALLED UPON WHEN HIS GOALS SEEM IMPOSSIBLE TO SUCCEED AND WERE AND WAS THERE AT THE END, MAKING HIS FAREWELL MEMORIAL UNFORGETTABLE.
SO AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE NEW POLICE CHIEF WHO HOPEFULLY WILL CONTINUE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH US.
SHE'S RIGHT THERE. COME ON OVER.
TEARY EYED. LET HER KNOW YOU NEED TO.
THIS. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SAM WAS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT HIS WORK AND AND MOSTLY HE TOOK IT ON THE CHIN FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.
NOW, IF HISTORY WILL TELL YOU, SAM AND I WERE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM, BUT I AM HONORED AND RESPECTED, EVEN THOUGH WE DISAGREED AT TIMES.
IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION AND THE ASPECT OF WORKING TOGETHER.
IT'S JUST THAT WE DO IT WITH COURTESY AND WE DO IT CONTINUALLY WITH LOVE.
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GOD BLESS YOU. SO NOW I HAVE REALLY SPECTACULAR NEWS.WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO HONOR PALM BAY PRACTICE.
WHERE ARE THE PROUDEST BASEBALL PLAYERS OF PALM BAY? PALM BAY WEST MAKES ME PALM BAY PROUD.
COME ON UP, TEAM. COME ON UP, COACHES.
THIS IS YOUR FUTURE MAJOR LEAGUERS.
WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, JUST I WANT TO RECOLLECT CHRISTOPHER HESTON, WHO PITCHED THE NO HITTER AGAINST THE NEW YORK METS, CAME OUT OF PALM BAY WEST, JUST AS A REMINDER. SO WE MAY BE LOOKING AT OUR FUTURE MAJOR LEAGUERS.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU MAKE ME PROUD.
GENTLEMEN. PALM BAY WEST LITTLE LEAGUE DISTRICT TWO 2022 SENIOR LEAGUE CHAMPIONS. GIVE IT UP FOR THEM.
THAT WHEREAS ON THURSDAY, JUNE 23RD, 2022, IN WEST MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, PALM BAY, WEST LITTLE LEAGUE SENIOR ALL STAR TEAM WON THE 2022 SENIOR LEAGUE DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP.
AND. WHEREAS, PALM BAY WEST DEFEATED WEST MELBOURNE SENIOR ALL STAR TEAM IN A BEST OF FIVE SERIES, WINNING THE SERIES 3 TO 1 WITH A SCORE IN THE FINAL GAME OF 14 TO ZIP.
TO WIN THE DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP.
CAN YOU SEE WHY I'M SO EXCITED TODAY? WHEREAS, UNDER THE GUIDANCE AND LEADERSHIP OF HEAD COACH DEVANE CLARK, ALONG WITH HIS ASSISTANT COACHES KEVIN HOWARD AND NICOLAS MARLIN, THE TEAM MADE HISTORY AND WON THE DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS.
AND. WHEREAS, THE ROSTER INCLUDES NUMBER ZERO.
NUMBER TWO, NICHOLAS REICHARD.
GO AHEAD. RAISE YOUR HANDS, GUYS, WHEN I'M CALLING YOUR NAME.
NUMBER SEVEN, GABRIEL HIDALGO.
YOU LIKE THE WAY I CHANGED IT? NUMBER NINE, RYAN FAUSTINE.
NUMBER TEN, TIMOTHY SAKO JUNIOR.
I HAVE TO DO THAT BOXING THING.
THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT.
NUMBER 42 TO REACH TYRESE GRISCOM.
THAT'S YOU. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? TYRESE. NUMBER 69, LOGAN HOWARD, AND NUMBER 94, EDWIN HANNUM.
IS THAT HERE? ALL RIGHT, EDWIN, LISTEN, GUYS, YOU MAKE ME PALM BAY PROUD.
20 YEARS, AND YOU BROUGHT THE TITLE HOME.
NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE PALM BAY WEST LITTLE LEAGUE DISTRICT TWO, 2022 SENIOR LEAGUE CHAMPIONS, AND HEREBY COMMEND THE TEAM FOR ITS GREAT SPORTSMANSHIP, ENTHUSIASM AND ALL AROUND GOOD PLAYING.
WE ARE ALL PROUD OF YOU AND WITNESS HEREOF.
GENTLEMEN, WE'RE ALL PROUD OF YOU.
SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS, BECAUSE THERE THIS LEADERSHIP IS.
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THESE ARE OUR FUTURE LEADERS.THEY'RE TEAM PLAYERS IN BASEBALL.
GIVES YOU SO MUCH OF LIFE'S LESSONS.
HELLO, GUYS. I WASN'T PREPARED TO GIVE A SPEECH TODAY.
DEVIN CLARK. HE'S OUR MANAGER, BUT HE'S NOT HERE TODAY.
BUT THESE KIDS, THEY WORKED HARD.
YOU WANT ME TO TALK TO YOU LIKE I TALK TO THEM BECAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE UGLY? NO, I'M JUST JOKING.
THE LEAGUE IS DOING REALLY GOOD.
WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE.
GOOD PEOPLE. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE, BRING THE KIDS OUT.
WAIT UP. STAND FAST, GUYS, RIGHT THERE.
YOU GUYS, TOO, TONY. THESE GUYS ARE BIGGER.
HIS PURPOSE WAS TO SAY, MAN, THAT'S WHAT.
WELL, THERE'S. PRAISE THE LORD.
HERE'S A LOOK. SO THANK YOU, FOLKS.
[PRESENTATIONS]
NOW WE'RE ON PRESENTATIONS AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MADAM SHERMAN.SHE'S HERE TO GIVE YOU HER SEMIANNUAL UPDATES.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED A LOT IS REALLY WHAT DOES THE CHAMBER DO? PEOPLE. SOME PEOPLE HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, NEVER MIND KNOWING WHAT WE DO.
SO CONSTITUENTS MEAN VOTES AND VOICES.
VOTES ARE THE CURRENCY OF EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL.
MORE MEMBERS MEAN MORE LEVERAGE ON LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL ISSUES.
OUR DELIVERABLES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO GENERATING ECONOMY.
WITH EVERY EVENT THAT WE PRODUCE, WE GENERATE JOBS WITH EVERY BUSINESS THAT GROWS, WITH THE GROWTH OF OUR ECONOMY AND WITH EVERY NEW BUSINESS WE ATTRACT, WHETHER WE'RE HELPING ONE MEMBER OR ALL MEMBERS, OUR DELIVERABLES ARE FOUND IN THE RESULTS OF BUSINESS GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES WE PROVIDE ON SO MANY LEVELS, FROM GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS ISSUES TO PERSONAL PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND EVEN EVENTS SUCH AS THE PALM BAY MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, OUR 14TH ANNUAL MAYOR'S BREAKFAST, AND THE FOURTH SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM.
IT DRAWS PEOPLE INTO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
OUR PROGRAMS ARE GOING STRONG WITH OUR MONTHLY CHAMBER LUNCHEON, OUR MONTH, OUR MONTHLY MULTICULTURAL NETWORKING GROUP, QUARTERLY WOMEN'S LUNCHEON SERIES AND UPCOMING SIGNATURE EVENTS LIKE THE SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM ON AUGUST 26TH, OUR LIFESTYLE, HEALTH AND WELLNESS EXPO ON OCTOBER 8TH AT THE GREATER PALM BAY SENIOR CENTER AND THE ADVERTISING AND MARKETING AUCTION NOVEMBER 16.
AND FINALLY, OUR BOARD INSTALLATION AND CHAMBER CELEBRATION ON DECEMBER 7TH.
WE ARE ALSO STARTING A TOASTMASTER GROUP AT THE CHAMBER.
I RECOMMEND IT TO ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN PUBLIC SPEAKING OR EVEN FOR A JOB GROWTH.
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HAVING THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, TO WEATHERS, ARTICULATE SENTENCES AND BE PREPARED IS VERY IMPORTANT.THERE IS A FEE FOR TOASTMASTERS, BUT NOT THROUGH THE CHAMBER.
I'M VERY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THE FOURTH ANNUAL OR FOURTH SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM.
THIS YEAR, OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER IS THE FLORIDA SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, JARED PERDUE.
WE ALSO ARE HAVING A ONE ON ONE FIRESIDE CHAT WITH JERRY GLEDHILL.
WE ALSO ARE HIGHLIGHTING TWO IMPORTANT THINGS HERE ON THE SPACE COAST.
ONE IS DISRUPTIVE MANUFACTURING AND DISRUPTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
SO OUR MANUFACTURING FEATURES EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A WORLDWIDE LEADING MANUFACTURER OF EXECUTIVE JETS, THEIR PHENOM 300 SERIES, AS THE WORLD'S BEST SELLING LIGHT JET FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.
AND THEY ALSO BUILT A SPECIAL VERSION OF THEIR JET AND FILM TOP GUN MAVERICK.
IT WAS THAT PLANE THAT WAS DOING ALL THOSE AMAZING SCENES IN TOP GUN.
THEY'RE ON OUR PANEL, ALONG WITH APUS CORP.
THEY ARE A MANUFACTURER OF 3D PRINTING HOUSES.
YOU CAN DESIGN CURVED WALLS OR CIRCLES, WHATEVER YOU WANT.
YOUR DESIGN IS POSSIBLE WITH 3D PRINTED HOMES, SO I THINK THAT'S RATHER EXCITING.
THEY DEVELOP CUTTING EDGE PLASTIC WASTE FREE CONSUMER PRODUCTS THAT DISSOLVE WITHOUT A TRACE.
HE ACTUALLY GOT INVESTMENT FROM MARK CUBAN AND THEY DID AN INITIAL INVESTMENT OF $3 MILLION WITH THEIR INITIAL SEED FUNDING ROUND TOMAHAWK ROBOTICS.
IT'S A PLATFORM OF COMMUNICATIONS AGNOSTIC CONTROL SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS THAT TRANSFORM HOW HUMANS WORK WITH ROBOTS AND UNMANNED SYSTEMS IN THE MOST STRESSFUL AND HARSH ENVIRONMENTS. TOMAHAWK WAS A SMALL COMPANY THAT WAS IN GROUNDSWELL.
THEY BUILT THE BUILDING BESIDE GROUNDSWELL AND NOW HAVE THE NEW BUILDING ON OAK VALLEY AND US ONE.
HE'S 22, BUT HE HAS HIS OWN MANUFACTURING PLANT NOW IN PALM BAY.
OUR SECOND PANELIST JUST DROPPED DISRUPTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
WE ARE FEATURING SPACEX PERSPECTIVE.
THEY OPERATE SPACESHIP NEPTUNE.
IT IS THE FIRST CARBON NEUTRAL WAY TO SPACE.
THEY TAKE EXPLORERS ON A VERY LEISURELY SIX HOUR, 125,000 FLIGHT EXCUSE ME.
UP TO THE EDGE OF SPACE AND AND BACK DOWN.
SO YOU ARE NOT CATAPULTING TO ANY G-FORCE.
YOU ARE SLOWLY GOING UP TO SPACE, BUT THEY ARE RIGHT IN TITUSVILLE.
THEY ARE OVER IN LAKE NONA AND ORLANDO.
THIS IS OUR FUTURE AUTONOMOUS DRIVING VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE ENVIRONMENT IN TERMS OF CARBON.
THEY ARE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SO IT'S PRETTY COOL.
LILIUM IS THE FIRST VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING JETS, SO THEY HAVE ZERO OPERATING EMISSIONS.
THEY HAVE A HUGE CAPACITY AND PAYLOAD.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE IF YOU ARE ABLE TO LAND YOUR PLANE IN YOUR BACKYARD, IF DEPENDING ON REGULATIONS AND JUST GO UP AND DOWN WITHOUT A RUNWAY, THESE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING OUR FUTURE AND HAVING THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION TALK ABOUT REALLY WHAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS DOING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOW THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY TO TAKE PLACE.
BECAUSE REALLY SO MANY RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS AND YEARS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE BECAUSE THIS IS A WHOLE NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT TRANSPORTING OURSELVES AROUND NOT JUST THE SPACE COAST, BUT REALLY AROUND THE WORLD AND AROUND THE COUNTRY.
SPACE PERSPECTIVES IS LOOKING AT BUILDING SPACEPORTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE UCF PROFESSOR DR.
SEETHA RAGHAVAN. SHE HOLDS A DOCTORATE DEGREE IN AERONAUTICS AND ASTRONAUTICS FROM PURDUE UNIVERSITY, AND SHE'S DISCUSSING THE MECHANICS OF AEROSPACE STRUCTURES AND MATERIALS THAT MAKE HYPERSONIC FLIGHT POSSIBLE.
SO BACK IN THE DAY, THERE WAS THE SST JETS THAT COULD TAKE YOU OVER TO EUROPE IN 2 TO 3 HOURS.
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THAT WAS THE PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF COUNTRIES.SO THE CHAMBER ALSO LEVERAGES MEMBERS, MEMBERS OR PARTNERS USE THE DATA AND THE BUSINESS NEWS THAT WE PROVIDE ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR THEIR BUSINESS PLANNING STRATEGIES AND MARKETING SALES.
TO BE AWARE OF GOVERNMENT ISSUES IMPACTING THEIR BOTTOM LINE.
WE ARE LIKE A CONDUIT OF INFORMATION OUT TO MEMBERS.
THE CHAMBER IS ALSO A COMMUNITY PARTNER.
LAST YEAR, WE APPOINTED LIAISON SUSAN CONLEY TO BE PART OF THE FLORIDA PROSPERITY PROJECT.
SADLY, BREVARD COUNTY HAS SOME OF THE HIGHEST DENSITY POVERTY ZIP CODES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SERVES AS A CONNECTOR OF LOCAL BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY LEADERS, SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE MULTITUDE OF INTERESTS, INTERESTS, INTERESTED PARTIES AND THOSE ALREADY WORKING IN THE FIELD.
THIS NEEDS TO BE A COLLABORATION AMONGST A VARIETY OF GROUPS, BUT THAT CAN ALSO BE THE CHALLENGE.
TRYING TO IDENTIFY EVERY ZIP CODE AND TACKLE THE TEN ROOT CAUSES IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
I THINK THEY SPOKE IN FRONT OF YOU LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
THE PROGRAM THEY HAVE HAS ALREADY SHOWN TREMENDOUS SUCCESS OVER IN ORLANDO.
IT REQUIRES AT LEAST A TEN YEAR COMMITMENT.
IT IMPROVES THE FAMILIES AND RESOURCES, ENCOURAGEMENT, SUPPORT, MENTORING AND HELPS BUILD A PATHWAY FOR CHILDREN TO CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE ACADEMIC AND LIFETIME SUCCESS AND BREAKING THE GENERATIONAL CYCLE OF POVERTY.
AS A COMMUNITY, IF WE DECIDE BREAKING THE CYCLE OF POVERTY IS IMPORTANT SINCE IT INVOLVES OTHER ISSUES SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH, HOMELESSNESS, LITERACY AND A HIGH, HIGHER GRADUATION LEVELS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS A COMMUNITY.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THE CHAMBER IS THE VOICE OF BUSINESS.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MISS NANCY.
YOU'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH OUR CHAMBER, AND I TRULY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.
I WANTED TO GIVE COUNCILMAN FELIX THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A VISUAL OF HIM.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT OR OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, CAN YOU COPY ME, SIR? YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AS YOU KNOW, OFTEN I MENTIONED I AM ONE OF THE CHAMBER'S BIG FAN.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
A VIBRANT CHAMBER SAYS A LOT HOW WELL THE CITY ARE DOING.
SO I KNOW WE'RE STRIVING, WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, WE'VE SEEN I'VE BEEN AROUND THE CHAMBER FOR A LONG TIME.
ON THE LEADERSHIP, IT'S CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE YOU'RE REALLY BUILDING THIS ON WHAT WAS LEFT.
AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
YOU AND YOUR TEAM, YOU GUYS ARE OUTSTANDING.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, CARRY ON.
NO QUESTION. NO COMMENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
NANCY, YOU'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD WHEN PEOPLE STOP AND VISIT YOUR CHAMBER, RIGHT? CORRECT. ABSOLUTELY. I SEE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN.
MM HMM. I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER OF.
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MAYBE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY AND GETTING CHARGING STATIONS RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER.HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. I'M JUST DIDN'T KNOW OUR STABILITY IN THE BUILDING.
SO IF WE ARE THERE FOR THE LONG TERM BECAUSE THERE IS AN INVESTMENT THAT YOU PAY FOR CHARGING STATIONS BUT BART WAS OUR FROM FLORIDA POWER LIGHT WAS THERE SPEAKER AT YESTERDAY'S LUNCHEON AND THEY REALLY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE CHARGING STATIONS AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, IT REALLY IS YOUR BUILDING.
THAT'D BE GREAT. I KNOW THIS IS NEWS TO THE CITY MANAGER.
YES. BUT WELL, MAYBE IF YOU IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, I COULD COME UP WITH AN IDEA TO DO THAT.
YEAH. WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND THE CITY MANAGER.
SURE. AND BRING IT BACK BEFORE COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO, I THINK.
WHEN YOU HAVE CHARGING STATIONS AND YOU BECAUSE EVERY EVERY DAY I.
I WATCHED THE NEWS. I DON'T WATCH TV.
I JUST. I SEE THESE COMMERCIALS AND.
ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE COMING MORE AND MORE CADILLAC OR YOU KNOW.
THEY'RE PARKED OUTSIDE OF YOUR CHAMBER.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN AND VISIT YOUR CHAMBER TO SEE WHAT PALM BAY HAS TO OFFER.
ONE, WHICH IS A PERFECT CORRIDOR.
YOU KNOW, HEY, IT'S A CHARGING STATION ON US ONE.
AND WE GO OVER THERE AND SIT FOR 2 HOURS AND AND TALK TO NANCY.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT. AND BRING BUSINESS INTO PALM BAY.
AND HE SAID THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THEY HAVE IS THERE ARE NO CHARGING STATIONS IN LONDON.
SO THEY WERE ALL FIGHTING FOR THE STATIONS TO TRY AND PLUG IN WITH THEIR CABS.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO CHARGE THEM, IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE.
I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
YOU'VE GONE TO TALLAHASSEE, UP TO TITUSVILLE, EVERYTHING ADVOCATING FOR PALM BAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU PUBLICLY.
WE TALKED PRIVATELY, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
I WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING COUNSEL HAS SAID.
BUT EVEN YOU CAME FROM SERENE HARBOR.
YES. AND NOW THEY'RE PARTNERS WITH YOU? YES, THEY'RE A TRUSTEE, OUR NEWEST TRUSTEE.
DID YOU WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY DO? SURE. SERENE HARBOR IS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CENTER, CERTIFIED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CENTER.
THEY HOUSE WOMEN AND CHILDREN AT THEIR FACILITIES AND PADS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A CONFIDENTIAL LOCATION.
SO HAVING OUTREACH WAS REALLY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOUR ADDRESS OUT.
SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE FOR SHELTERING MEN HAVING LONG TERM, LONG TERM LIVABLE SITUATION THERE, WHICH IS REALLY NICE BECAUSE ACTUALLY FINDING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT AND THEY ARE LOOKING.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FOR AN OUTREACH CENTER AND TO DEVELOP THAT, WHETHER IT'S THERE IS A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN HOLD IT OR WHETHER IT GETS BUILT FROM SCRATCH. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, ALTHOUGH NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN WITH VIOLENT CRIME, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, INCREASED.
IT'S THINGS THAT PEOPLE TEND TO THINK AS A FAMILY MATTER, AND IT IS NOT AS IT IS A SOCIETAL ISSUE AND IT'S VERY PREVALENT WITHIN THE WHOLE WORLD. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SOCIOECONOMIC GROUP.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHAT IS AN ABUSER LOOK LIKE? AND SADLY IT COULD BE YOUR NEIGHBOR, RELATIVE, FRIEND, UNCLE, AUNT.
IT'S THERE IS NO CLASS SYSTEM, THERE IS NO RACE SYSTEM.
IT IS PREVALENT IN ALL SOCIETY.
AND SO FINDING A WAY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO WORK ON BECAUSE THESE YOUNG MEN THAT ARE DISILLUSIONED AND SHOOTING OFTEN COME FROM HOMES THAT HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE ISN'T A COHESIVE FAMILY, NOT ALWAYS, BUT SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES MENTAL HEALTH
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ISSUES. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS A COMMUNITY, IF THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP CHANGE.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT AND THE CHAMBER PARTNERING BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO BE AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO LOCK ARMS WITH SERENE HARBOR.
SO THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
AND YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
I THANK YOU, MAYOR. OUR SECOND AND FINAL PRESENTATION WILL BE FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF, MARIO AJELLO.
MR. MAYOR, IF THE MAYOR COUNCIL.
GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS EVENING, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A OVERVIEW OF YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF SPECIFICALLY OF CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, 2021, BUT ALSO THE STATE OF THE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY PRESENTLY IN 2022.
WE'RE GOING TO COVER A FEW THINGS IF WE GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE.
SO OF COURSE, OUR CONNECTS, SERVE AND IMPACT.
THAT'S OUR POLICY OR THAT'S OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
WE'VE HAD THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
BUT I DON'T WANT EVEN WANT TO CALL IT A HIGHLIGHT.
OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS KIND OF THE STAPLE OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
WE'VE DONE THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER BEING AN OFFICER HERE WHEN I GOT HIRED IN IN 2000.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME HIGHLIGHTS THERE.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THE STATE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, WHICH COVERS OUR STAFFING, OUR EXPENDITURES FROM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS, OUR IMPACT FEES AND GRANT FUNDING THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED, THAT WE'VE BEEN AWARDED.
AND BASICALLY, US LOOKING OUTSIDE THE BOX FOR ALTERNATIVE FUNDING RESOURCES IN TERMS OF HELP, OUR CAUSE AND OUR CAUSE IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A LEVEL OF READINESS TO PROVIDE A BASIC PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'LL GET THERE TOWARDS THE END.
THESE ARE ACTUAL NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN MOVING FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT SERVES THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH PALM BAY WITH THE SERVICES THAT IT DESERVES.
AND AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT BASIC PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
SO IF WE LOOK FOR 2021 CALLS FOR SERVICE AND BASICALLY THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE HERE IS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR OF 2021. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 91,437 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THESE DO NOT INCLUDE THESE ARE JUST CALLS THAT ENCOMPASS A CITIZEN THAT'S CALLING 911 FOR SERVICES.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT WE HAVE THE PI SPLIT UP INTO FOUR AND THE REASON WHY THERE'S THE PERCENTAGE TO THE LEFT OF EACH CORNER WHERE IT'S SHADED TO SHADES OF GREEN THAT ENCOMPASSES OUR SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST CORRIDOR OF THE CITY.
AND THE REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EXPLAIN HERE THIS EVENING IS SOUTHEAST, OF COURSE, WITH THE EXPANSION AND THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE SOUTH, NOT TO MENTION, OF COURSE, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WEST END, WHICH IS NORTHWEST.
BUT FOR THE SOUTHEAST, WE'RE COMBINING BOTH SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST.
SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 39% OF CALLS FOR SERVICE RECEIVED FOR THE CITY FOR THAT YEAR.
ONE SQUAD ON EVERY DIVISION, ON EVERY DIVISION ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT THAT AREA.
THAT'S ABOUT 7 TO 9 OFFICERS WHEN THAT SQUAD IS FULLY STAFFED.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTHWEST, WE HAVE A NORTHWEST CORRIDOR, WE HAVE A NORTHWEST OFFICER SQUAD AND THEN OUR NORTHEAST AS WELL, WHICH IS MAINLY YOU HAVE THE LOC MORE AREA OF THE CITY, BUT ALSO EAST OF I-95, THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AREA AND RESIDENTIAL AREA.
ARREST. IF YOU LOOK IT TO THE RIGHT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER 1700 ARRESTS WE MADE IN 2021, AGAIN, BROKEN DOWN INTO THE QUADRANTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SOUTHEAST, SOUTHWEST AND THE NORTHEAST, IN THE NORTHWEST.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, REPORTS WRITTEN.
O'BRIEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
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REPORTS WRITTEN FOR THE YEAR IS OVER 11,000.ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? I HAVE A HANDSOME ENFORCER.
IF I'M CORRECT, YOU SAY YOU HAVE THREE SQUADS FOR ONE FOR NORTHEAST, NORTHWEST AND THE SOUTHEAST AND THE SOUTHWEST. CORRECT.
SO OUR DIVISIONS WE HAVE FOUR DIVISIONS FOR PATROL.
SO EACH DIVISION HAS THREE SQUADS.
SO OUR FOUR DIVISIONS, YOU HAVE AN ALPHA ROTATION AND YOU HAVE A BRAVO ROTATION.
YOU HAVE A DAY SHIFT AND YOU HAVE A NIGHT SHIFT.
RIGHT. SO OUR DAY SHIFT, YOU'RE OUR STAFF WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PERSONNEL.
THEY'RE STAFFED WITH 22 CALL TAKERS, POSITIONS, MEANING OFFICERS.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE YOUR SUPERVISORS, OUR NIGHT SHIFT.
SO WE HAVEN'T BROKEN DOWN INTO SQUADS.
NOW IN PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND AS WE HAVE WHEN BUT OF COURSE IT GETS INTO OUR PLANNING PROCESS.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE SQUADS.
SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST IS MANAGED BY ONE SQUAD AND ONE SERGEANT.
AND FOR THE SOUTHEAST AND DAY SHIFT, YOU HAVE SEVEN OFFICERS FOR NIGHT SHIFT.
YOU HAVE NINE OFFICERS ON THAT SQUAD.
AND THAT'S IF THAT SQUAD IS COMPLETELY FULL.
THEY CAN BE OUT OF SCHOOL. THEY COULD BE OUT SICK, THEY COULD BE OUT INJURED.
SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT OUR STAFFING LEVELS IS.
IF YOU'RE WORKING NORTHWEST, THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR ZONE ASSIGNMENT, THAT'S YOUR QUADRANT.
AND WE'RE TIED UP ON CALLS IN THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST.
YOU'RE GOING FROM THE NORTHWEST ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTHEAST.
SORRY. I'M ITALIANS. I TALK WITH MY HANDS, SO.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH.
WITH THE EXPLANATION OF HOW WE'RE BROKEN DOWN WITH THE SQUADS.
YOU MEAN THE SOUTHEAST AND THE SOUTHWEST? I MEAN SOUTHEAST, YES. YEAH, IN SOUTHWEST.
THERE'S A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER FOR SQUAT.
JUST BRING BACK MEMORIES WHEN I WAS TRYING TO.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. CARRY ON.
ALL RIGHT. SO OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE PRIDE IN.
MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, ON DUTY, OFF DUTY.
THEY DO EVALUATIONS AND EVALUATIONS WITH NEW BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS.
WE EVEN HAVE ONE SCHEDULED FOR THE EVANS CENTER IN TERMS OF ACTIVE SHOOTER TYPE OF EVALUATION.
AND WE ALSO HAD ONE WITH PALM BAY HOSPITAL.
WE HAD AN ACTIVE SHOOTER WHERE YOU WERE THERE.
IT'S PART OF WHO WE ARE AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S OUR CULTURE. AND IT HAS BEEN FOR FOR QUITE A WHILE.
A WELLNESS PROGRAM, AS I MENTIONED.
WHEN I WAS GIVEN THE HONOR TO BECOME THE POLICE CHIEF AT MY SWEARING IN, MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS THE SAFETY AND WELLNESS OF MY OFFICERS AND MY CIVILIAN STAFF AND ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS WITH THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'VE MADE SOME STRIDES AND WE'VE MADE SOME SOME THINGS HAPPEN OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AND STILL MOVING FORWARD, AS YOU'LL SEE IN A FEW SLIDES MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR, FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR OUR FOLKS.
BUT JUST TO NAME A FEW, WE HAVE I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, WE HAVE AN APP THAT IS FREE.
IT'S NOT MONITORED BY BOSSES THAT IT'S A WELLNESS AND A MENTAL HEALTH APP THAT WE'VE DOWNLOADED.
FOR EVERY OFFICER AND EVERY EMPLOYEE AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND RETIREES TO HAVE ON THEIR PHONES.
AND WE PROVIDE RESOURCES ON THAT.
WE HAVE OUR PEER SUPPORT TEAM ON THERE.
WE HAVE OUR CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM ON THERE.
AND THAT'S JUST A STEP, THE INITIAL STEP TO GET US TO GET THEM THE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY NEED.
WELLNESS ONE DAYS TIPS AND RESOURCES.
WE HAVE A WELLNESS TEAM THAT COMPRISES OF THAT'S MADE UP OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE SECTION.
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SHE'S ALSO THE SERGEANT OF OUR YOUTH SERVICES UNIT, OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.THEY'RE NOT JUST SUBJECT TO ONE ASSIGNMENT.
BUT OUR WELLNESS FOR OUR AGENCY IS A MUST.
IT'S A GIVEN. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A BACKSEAT TO IT.
WE NEED IT FOR OUR FOLKS BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET IT FOR OUR FOLKS.
WE'RE NOT GOING BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY WELLNESS SUITE.
THAT'S A GYM. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT SOUND PRETTY, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BE FIT, DEPUTY MAYOR.
I KNOW YOU. YOU'RE BIG ON THAT AS WELL, AND SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE.
I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WORKS HAS BEEN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING INSIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP US OUT AND DECOMPRESS.
SO THIS PAST YEAR WE CREATED WE BROUGHT BACK, I SHOULD SAY, TRAFFIC UNIT THAT WE DID AWAY WITH YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF STAFFING LEVELS CONCERNS.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIVE OF THOSE SIX POSITIONS FILLED ON TOP OF OUR OFFICERS OUT ON PATROL.
THESE ARE THE STATISTICAL DATA THAT WE RECOVER FOR 2021.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, TRAFFIC STOPS OVER 13,000.
AND IF YOU LOOK, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WOW, YOU'RE NOT WRITING TICKETS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, HEY, LET ME JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.
WE DON'T GET MONEY FOR TICKETS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T CATCH ANY REVENUE FROM IT.
IT PAYS DIVIDENDS. IT ALSO BRINGS BRIDGES THAT GAP BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.
THE BIGGEST ONE, WHICH IS CONCERNING, IS THE TRAFFIC CRASHES THAT WE'VE HAD THAT YEAR OVER 2700.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE IN TERMS OF HOW FROM PARTICIPATING TO NONFATAL AND AND FATALITIES, 231 DUI ARRESTS THAT RESULTED FROM EITHER TRAFFIC STOPS OR TRAFFIC CRASHES.
AND AS OF JUNE 15TH, 2022, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 1299 TRAFFIC CRASHES.
IF IT CAN'T MAINTAIN ITS CURRENT PACE, WE'RE GOING TO MIRROR WHERE WE WERE FOR 2021.
GIVE OR TAKE A FEW. SO I STILL WANT FOR THAT NUMBER TO DROP.
YELLOW IS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE MY OFFICE.
THE DEPUTY CHIEF OR BUDGET OFFICE OR ACCREDITATION MANAGER OR SPECIALIST.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SUPPORT SERVICES DIVISION, WHICH ENCOMPASSES OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER, WHICH IS OUR DISPATCH OR VICTIM SERVICES, WHICH IS OUR ADVOCATES FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME AND OUR RANGE AND OUR TRAINING AND RECRUITMENT AND BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS.
OUR INTELLIGENCE UNIT, WHICH IS OUR CRIME ANALYSTS.
OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATION UNIT AND OUR CRIME SUPPRESSION UNIT.
ONE IS GAME OVER TASK FORCE, WHICH IS A TASK FORCE WITH THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SO OUR BIGGEST IS IN BLUE, AND THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY, OUR UNIFORMED SERVICES DIVISION.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO, TWO SECTIONS OR DIVISIONS IN THERE.
WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES AND OUR UNIFORMED SERVICES.
SO OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES, OUR GOAL FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS TO MAKE THAT ITS OWN DIVISION.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGET.
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SIX THAT ARE CURRENTLY FILLED.WE ALSO HAVE OUR YOUTH SERVICES UNIT, WHICH ENCOMPASSES OUR YOUTH SERVICES OFFICERS, WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS OF THE VENTURE BROTHERS AND OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND OUR SERGEANT AS WELL. AND THAT'S ALSO WHERE OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM IS ALSO ENCOMPASSED IN.
THEY'RE OVERSEEING ALL OF OPERATIONS IS OUR DEPUTY CHIEF.
AND WE HAVE FOUR COMMANDERS THAT OVERSEE EACH DIVISION.
IT'S OVER 100 POLICE OFFICERS FOR PATROL.
AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION OR SECTION FOR NOW IS COMMANDER JEFF SPEARS.
IF YOU LOOK BELOW ON THE BOXES BELOW THERE, WE'LL START IN THE BIG ONE THERE, THE BIG BLUE BOX WHERE IT HAS 18 VACANCIES, FIVE VACANCIES, AND TO THE LEFT YOU HAVE SIX VACANCIES.
THOSE ARE MY CURRENT VACANCIES FOR SWORN POSITIONS.
VACANCIES FOR UNIFORM PERSONNEL.
NOW. WE USED TO SAY IN THE PAST THE MATTER OF, WELL, WHAT ARE CONSIDERED TRUE VACANCIES IF THERE'S NAMES TO THOSE POSITIONS BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE YET, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED A TRUE VACANCY.
MY DEFINITION OF A TRUE VACANCY IS YOU'RE NOT WORKING THE ROAD RIGHT NOW AND HANDLING CALLS.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, IT'S A VACANCY UNTIL YOU MAKE IT OUT OF TRAINING.
SO RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE 18 CADETS OR CANDIDATES IN EITHER THE ACADEMY OR IN OUR TRAINING PROGRAM OR ABOUT TO START THE ACADEMY, THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY YET.
SO RIGHT NOW I HAVE 29 VACANCIES FOR PATROL OR FOUR SWORN AND WHAT THAT DOES.
IF I GO TO MY INVESTIGATION SECTION, I HAVE SIX VACANCIES THAT I FILL THERE THAT ENCOMPASSES MY PROPERTY CRIMES, THAT ENCOMPASSES MY MAJOR CASE, THAT ENCOMPASSES MY INVESTIGATIONS, MY INTELLIGENCE UNIT, AND MY TASK FORCE, WHICH IS PROVIDING PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO HELP COMBAT CRIME WITHIN OUR OWN CITY. SO IT'S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS NOW I HAVE VACANCIES IN THOSE POSITIONS AND FOLKS ARE HAVING TO WORK MORE, MORE OVERTIME, WHICH IS MORE EXPENDITURE.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S MORE OF A BURNOUT, WHICH IS WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
CURRENTLY HAVE 40 POSITIONS SLOTTED FOR OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER.
I'M CURRENTLY OPERATING AT 52% CAPACITY IN THOSE POSITIONS, AND IN THAT UNIT I HAVE 19 VACANCIES.
I JUST HAD A RESIGNATION YESTERDAY.
CITY MANAGER. WELL, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE ABOUT IT, SO.
WE CAN GET INTO AND DISCUSS WHY? WHAT'S THE ISSUE? WHAT'S GOING ON? BUT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE MANDATORY OVERTIME FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY WORK EIGHT HOUR SHIFTS.
I HAVE TO STAY OVER AND WORK ANOTHER 8 HOURS.
SO I'M WORKING A TOTAL OF 16 HOURS.
AND THAT'S HAPPENING EVERY DAY OF EVERY WEEK.
TO OUR FOLKS. SO IT'S IT'S CONCERNING IN TERMS OF.
GET THEM TO WHERE THAT NEEDS TO BE NOW.
ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS MY RECORD SECTION.
YES, I HAVE. WE GAVE CONDITIONAL OFFERS TO THREE INDIVIDUALS LAST WEEK.
SO NOW I HAVE ONE MORE VACANCY AS WELL.
SO. I'M WORKING IN A RECORDS DIVISION WITH THREE EMPLOYEES AND A SUPERVISOR FOR A ALMOST 300 PERSONNEL POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A CITY THAT HANDLED 91,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
AND IF YOU ADD THE PROACTIVE NESS WITH THE 13,000 TRAFFIC STOPS, IT'S OVER 100,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT THEY'RE HANDLING THAT AND THEN OVER 13,000 REPORTS AND TRAFFIC CITATIONS THAT THEY HAD TO REVIEW.
ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR AND ALSO ANY QUESTIONS?
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NO, SIR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I HEAR YOUR CONCERN AND.COMMUNICATION CENTER IS VITAL FOR A POLICE OFFICER WHO'S CALLING IN AND NEEDS A BACKUP.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO USE POLICE JARGON 1029 BACKGROUND CHECK OR WARRANTS CHECK, YOU KNOW, OR A TAG AND YOUR OPERATED ARE TIED UP ON DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THAT COULD BE SAFETY AND OR SOMEONE GETTING AWAY.
AND HE RUNS HE RUNS A NAME WITH A AND IT MIGHT COME BACK, HEY, THIS GUY IS WANTED.
AND THEN THAT OFFICER IN TENNESSEE IS JUST GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.
THAT'S NOT A POLICE OFFICER SKILL.
THAT'S A SPECIAL SKILL THAT A PERSON HAVE TO HAVE.
IT'S NOT EASY TO BE AN OPERATOR, AS YOU KNOW, CHIEF.
YOU'VE GOT TO YOU'VE GOT TO MULTITASK AND YOU'VE GOT VERY LITTLE TIME TO DO IT.
DOES THAT OFFICER EXPECT YOU TO GET BACKWARD? SO HOW CAN WE RECRUIT FOR THAT POSITION? AND WHAT WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO TO FILL THEM VACANCIES.
SO I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU 100% ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION CENTER.
SO I'LL BREAK IT DOWN IN THIS THIS THIS CAPACITY.
SO FAR, OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER, WE'RE NOT ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH IN TERMS OF SALARY, STARTING SALARY.
WE'RE ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE COUNTY.
SO. WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANYBODY IN THAT CERTIFIED.
YOU KNOW, THEY START REALIZING, YEAH, THIS IS NOT FOR ME.
FOR BOTH SALARY, BUT ALSO JUST FOR A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY SCHEDULE.
RIGHT. YOU KNOW, NO SHIFT WORK.
AND THEN WE'VE HAD FOLKS TO LEAVE TO.
THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE MANDATORY OVERTIME, YOU KNOW, SO.
THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PROPOSE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING AT LEAST THE FOLKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE TRENCHES FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WHEN COVID STARTED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT HIT US.
THAT'S WHEN IT HIT THE COMM CENTER ON THE MANDATORY OVERTIMES.
AND AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT TO GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW, BUT SO BUT I WANT TO ECHO THAT, BECAUSE PART OF THAT IS ONCE THEY GET CERTIFIED, THEN THEY BECOME SO MUCH MORE VALUABLE TO COMPETING AGENCIES.
AND THAT IS AN AREA OF CONCERN AS WELL.
SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? BY ELEVATING THE SALARY, MAKE IT COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE.
THANK YOU. HOW ARE YOU DOING? ALL RIGHT, SO GO AHEAD.
GET MOVING HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO COMPARISON IN TERMS OF SOME COMPARABLES THAT FROM OUR STAFFING LEVELS FOR SWORN. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY RANKED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THIS IS THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, 241ST, 41ST OUT OF 246 POLICE DEPARTMENTS, NOT SHERIFF'S OFFICES, LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES OR POLICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MUNICIPALITIES.
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PER 1000 RESIDENTS.THEY'RE GOING TO CALENDAR YEAR TO CALENDAR YEAR.
OUR NUMBERS ARE FISCAL YEAR TO FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT.
THE STATE AVERAGE THAT THEY PUT ON THE FDA WEBSITE IS 2.33 OFFICERS PER 1000.
YOU KNOW, NOT TO COMPARE TO OTHER AGENCIES, BUT IT IS COMPARABLE.
YOU KNOW, GIVE ME A COMPARABLE ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S THE WHAT'S TRENDING THAT WE CAN GO OFF OF.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, THEY.
AND HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT COUNT OF 172 BUDGETED POSITIONS.
WE HAVE 176 BUDGETED POSITIONS.
I BELIEVE OUR SQUARE MILES IS MAYBE 90, CLOSE TO A HUNDRED PUSHING THERE.
SO THAT'S JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
I HAVE A FEW OTHERS, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO EXPLAIN THE SAME THING.
TO GET. TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
SO IT'S JUST BEEN A PROCESS THAT'S HAPPENED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
PROBABLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW TODAY.
BUT 118 OFFICERS TO MAKE US WHOLE.
NOW. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THAT, NOR WOULD WE BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THAT FINANCIALLY.
BUT WE WOULD NEED TO BE AT A NUMBER OF 294 OFFICERS TO MATCH THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO THIS GRAPH THAT I HAVE HERE SHOWS US FROM 2005 TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN 2022.
SO FROM 147 OFFICERS IN 2005, YOU CAN SEE THE TREND.
THE RED AND THE BLUE LINES WERE LOOKING GOOD, GOING UP FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN 0809 2012 START TO HIT AND YOU CAN START SEEING THE SEPARATION OF POPULATION GROWTH AND OUR DECLINE AS STAFFING LEVELS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
NOW, IF YOU NOTICE, WE LOST SIX POSITIONS ALONG THE WAY FOR BUDGETARY REASONS, ECONOMIC REASONS, ALSO THROUGH FURLOUGHS THAT WE HAD BACK NINE OH TEN AND 2010.
AND THEN WE PICKED IT BACK UP IN 2019, 2020 WENT UP TO 166 AND 176, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY AT TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE GRAPH? NO QUESTIONS.
JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GIVEN US A GOOD VISUAL.
YOU'RE GIVING OUR RESIDENTS, OUR CITIZENS, A GOOD VISUAL OF THE EXTREME GAP.
AND WE'RE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT RESPONSE TIME.
SO I KNOW THERE'S PLENTY HERE TO DIGEST, BUT CARRY ON, SIR.
OUR RESPONSE TIMES FOR 2021, 2020, 2021 AND 2022.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN 2020 ON OUR RESPONSE TIMES.
SO THESE ARE RESPONSE TIMES MATTER.
IN-PROGRESS TYPES OF CALLS WHERE THEY REALLY NEED POLICE AND FIRE.
SHOOTINGS, DEATHS, DOMESTIC BATTERIES, SEXUAL BATTERIES, DROWNINGS, ANYTHING THAT'S CRITICAL THAT WE'RE RESPONDING, LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
SO WE'VE GONE UP AND WE'VE KIND OF FLUCTUATED BETWEEN 21 AND 22.
NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN, THAT'S SOUTHEAST.
SOUTHWEST. YOU'D BE LIKE, WELL, IT'S NOT TOO BAD.
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SO OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURE FOR 2022 IS 7 MINUTES AND 45 SECONDS.I'M SORRY. 6 MINUTES AND 45 SECONDS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURE.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO YOU'RE PAINTING A GREAT PICTURE.
SO, TRAINING OF RECRUITING, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING TO TRAIN OR TO RECRUIT AND BRING AND ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE? WE HAVE ONE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR.
A LIEUTENANT, A TRAINING COORDINATOR, WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.
A TRAINING SERGEANT WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF OUR TRAINING, PARTICULARLY THE TRAINING THAT YOU SAW MERRITT AT THE HOSPITAL LAST WEEK FOR ACTIVE SHOOTER AND A CADRE OF FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS.
WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.
WE ARE ATTRACTING NON CERTIFIED APPLICANTS.
PROBLEM IS, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE REAL QUICK.
THAT'S A PROCESS IT TAKES TO BECOME WHAT WE CALL SOLO STATUS, MEANING YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.
ITS 11 TO 12 MONTH PROCESS FROM APPLICATION FROM POSTING TO APPLICATION INTERVIEWS.
SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 17 OR 18 INDIVIDUALS.
THAT ARE IN OUR FIELD PROGRAM.
SO WE NEED FOLKS THAT ARE UP, THAT ARE HERE.
THIS IS ANOTHER COLLABORATION.
BECAUSE WE WANT TO RECRUIT AND BRING FOLKS THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE CERTIFIED.
AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO BRING IN CERTIFIED INDIVIDUALS FROM FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY LOCALLY IN THE COUNTY OR EVEN IN THE NEXT COUNTY OR OR A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IS BECAUSE THERE IS LOYALTY TO WHERE THEY'RE AT AND THEY'RE VESTED TO WHERE THEY'RE AT.
SO YOU'D BETTER PROVIDE ME SOMETHING FOR ME TO WANT TO LEAVE.
SO THERE WE ARE, MOVING FORWARD WITH INCREASING OUR SIGNING BONUS TO ATTRACT THAT CERTIFIED.
POOL OF CANDIDATES WITH HOPES THAT THAT WORKS.
SO TO ME, MEDIA BLITZ, I MEAN, IT'S ALL THERE.
IT'S JUST THE PROCESS AND THE PROCESS.
WE SPOKE ABOUT IT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.
THIS KIND OF JUST GIVES YOU A RUNDOWN OF.
WHAT WERE THEY LEFT TO AND FOR WHAT REASON? SO WHEN I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING OF ALTERNATE FUNDING SOURCES OR RESOURCES.
SO WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A GREAT IT'S A GREAT THING BECAUSE IT'S HELPED US MAINTAIN OR TRY TO MAINTAIN, I SHOULD SAY, GETTING SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT ANY OTHER WAY BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE OR NOT AVAILABLE.
YOU KNOW, OUR VOCA GRANT FOR 2021, WE GOT AWARDED ABOUT $141,000 FOR ITEMS THAT HAVE THIS.
THERE ARE VOCA GRANT WHICH HELPS SUPPLEMENT 50% OF THE SALARIES FOR OUR VICTIM SERVICES UNIT ADVOCATES OR THE JAG GRANT RIFLES, EQUIPMENT PROGRAMS, PILOTS TO POLICE FOR PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL THERE EVERY YEAR EVERY WEEK OUR NEIGHBORS PROGRAMS FOR RECORDS,
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FIREHOUSE SUBS, PUBLIC SAFETY GRANT FOR OUR DIVE EQUIPMENT 2022.WE WERE AWARDED OVER $700,000.
A LOT OF THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAS GEARED TOWARDS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BOTH OUR NORTH PRECINCT, OUR DISTRICT AND OUR HEADQUARTER BUILDING IN TERMS OF HARDENING THE ROOF AND ALSO GENERATORS AND SHUTTERS, STORM SHUTTERS.
WHAT WE HAVE PENDING CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW FOR FROM 2022 IS ABOUT $300,000 WORTH.
THE BIGGEST ONE FOR ME IS AT THE BOTTOM THE MENTAL HEALTH GRANT, WHICH IS ABOUT 175,000.
THAT WILL HELP US OUT TREMENDOUSLY IF WE GET AWARDED THAT MOVING FORWARD FOR A WELLNESS PROGRAM.
OUR IMPACT FEES, WHICH IS ANOTHER IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND WHEN I SAY OUR DEPARTMENT, IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR BOAT GRANT FOR THE BOAT THAT I KNOW MR. BATTON LOVES AND AND, YOU KNOW, OH SEVEN LOOKING AT OUR PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE INTERIOR EXPANSION.
SO I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON THAT BEFORE I FORGET.
SO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE BUILDING WAS WAS BUILT IN 1990 AND IT WAS AT THAT TIME IT WAS SET FOR ABOUT 145 PERSONNEL.
AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'RE OVER 300.
IT'S ABOUT 35,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
A NEIGHBORING AGENCY, OUR FRIENDS TO THE NORTH.
THEIR NEW ONE THAT'S GOING TO GO UP EVENTUALLY.
72,000 SQUARE MILES OR SQUARE FEET.
SORRY. SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU WHERE WE'RE AT, OUR NORTH DISTRICT, WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT 4000 SQUARE FEET, THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL POLICE DEPARTMENT IN 1960. IT'S WE'RE STILL USING IT.
WE'VE HAD SOME UPGRADES. I GOT TO GIVE THAT TO FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL.
30 SOMETHING, IT WAS ABOUT $17,000 WORTH OF AMMO THAT I CAN'T USE.
SO THESE ARE REVENUES THAT WE COLLECT.
AND I KNOW I'M JUST PREACHING TO YOU ALL.
BUT FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE LISTENING, WE HAVE A STATE AND FEDERAL REVENUE THAT WE ENCOUNTER.
SO THESE ARE FROM INVESTIGATIONS THAT OUR OFFICERS, OUR INVESTIGATORS HAVE, THAT WE GET FORFEITURES AND THEY GO THROUGH PROCEEDINGS AND REVENUE THAT WE COLLECT AND THAT WE GET FROM THOSE INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE AWARDED TO THE POLICE, DEPART TO THE CITY.
SO STATE REVENUE, FEDERAL REVENUE.
SO WE'RE MANDATED BY STATE STATUTE UNDER THE FORFEITURE INVESTIGATIVE FUNDS THAT THERE IS 25%.
UP TO 25% NEEDS TO BE DONATED TO THE COMMUNITY FOR NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, PROGRAMS FOR CERTAIN THINGS, CRIME PREVENTION, SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, DRUG DRUG PREVENTION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO IF YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPENDITURES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM. EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GIVEN $19,000 IN 2020.
WHAT WE WERE ABOVE, WHAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO GIVE.
SO THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR WITH OUR COMMUNITY IS VITAL.
25%. I WAS ONLY LEGALLY REQUIRED TO GIVE THEM $4,000 TO COMMUNITY OUTFITS.
WHEN WE DID THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THAT YEAR, WE WE ASSISTED WITH FUNDING UNITED WAY FOR A CLUB OF STEAM FOR OUR YOUTH IN TERMS OF READING AND OUR OFFICERS MENTORING COMMUNITY READ AND FEED, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THIS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A PART OF FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, OR THINGS THAT WE DONATE FROM A STATE LEVEL ON THE REVENUES.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO CRIME SCENE VANS THAT ARE OVER 20 YEARS OLD.
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LEADERSHIP TRAINING FOR OUR SUPERVISORS, BOTH SWORN AND CIVILIAN.SO, AGAIN, IF YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, NOTHING, SCHOOL TRAINING, EQUIPMENT, SWAT EQUIPMENT.
I KNOW IT SAID A LOT. YOU KNOW, MY PRIORITY OF MY PRIORITIES IS VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.
IT'S PROBABLY OVER. I'M SURE THE COMMANDERS AND IS LOOKING AT ME LIKE NOPE IT'S HIGHER OVER 50 PLUS VEHICLES PER OUR FLEET SERVICES THAT HAVE THEM RATED THAT THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. BASED ON THEIR THEIR PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S THAT'S HALF OF MY SWORN FLEET.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN 22 YEARS.
STAFFING, COMPETITIVE SALARIES.
I THINK EVERYBODY DOES BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S BEEN WORKING HARD.
BUT GROWTH. IF THE CITY GROWS, SO DOES YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY.
OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY.
I THINK SOMEBODY TOLD ME WE HAVE TO SHARE THE APPLE.
AND I DO WANT TO SHARE THE APPLE.
WELL, WE'VE BEEN FOR THE LAST 20 SOMETHING YEARS WITH YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE'RE AT A POINT TO WHERE DOING MORE WITH LESS IS NOT AN OPTION ANYMORE.
AND I KNOW PAST ADMINISTRATIONS WITH WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOOK PRIDE IN THAT.
I DON'T. BECAUSE IT'S PUTTING OUR OUR MEN AND WOMEN AND OUR COMMUNITY AT RISK.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO, BUT THEY BELONG TO THE GOVERNMENT.
SO AT ANY GIVEN TIME, THEY CAN SAY, I WANT THOSE BACK.
THERE'S A SERVICE I CAN'T PROVIDE.
I HAVE TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND OUR UNIFIED COMMAND CENTER IS THAT.
IF WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY IN OUR COMM CENTER SHUTS DOWN.
BUT THAT SOFTWARE IS 11 YEARS OLD, PROBABLY OLDER NOW, BRIAN.
IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, SO I HAVE NOTHING TO.
GO TO. AH, THEY HAVE TO GO PACK SETS.
AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, WE HAVE TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO HELP US OUT.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY DO, AND THAT'S TO SERVE.
THEY TOOK AN OATH. WE ALL TOOK AN OATH.
THIS IS JUST NOT PAINTING THE PICTURE.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE DO.
AND THAT SERVED THIS GREAT COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS MY COMMUNITY.
I LIVE HERE AND RAISE MY KIDS HERE.
BUT WE DO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY TO HELP US OUT AT SOME POINT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FELIX, SINCE I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY FIRST.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. I KNOW AT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SHE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION.
THERE'S A LOT A LOT TO DIGEST, A LOT OF IT.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE ARE AWARE OF IT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO REASSURE YOU, I CAN SPEAK FOR ME.
WE YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REALLY HELP MEET THIS GOAL BECAUSE SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY IS TOO IMPORTANT, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON? JUST. JUST A COMMENT. THANK YOU, CHIEF.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHIEF, THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE WITH CROSSING FIVE ZERO.
I MEAN, I EVEN STOPPED BY TEXAS ROADHOUSE FOR YOUR TYPICAL EVENT, THE JULY 4TH EVENT.
A LOT OF PERSONNEL THERE AS WELL.
GRANTS USING OTHER RESOURCES TO HELP YOUR CAUSE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN HERE FOR YOU.
WE ALREADY SEE YOU TOOK THE NEXT STEP AND APPLYING FOR GRANTS.
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YOU MADE AN INTERESTING POINT HERE, AND THIS IS THE POINT I REALLY WANT TO TOUCH DOWN.TOUCH ON IS IF THE CITY GROWS, SO DOES THE PUBLIC SAFETY GROW.
AND THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN NEGLECTING THAT CONCEPT FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.
AND I FEEL LIKE COUNCIL NOW FEELS WE HAVE TO CATCH UP NOW.
SO WE'RE ALL WE'RE FULL STEAM AHEAD.
WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU AND GET YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
I SUPPORT YOU FULLY. YOU KNOW THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO YOUR OTHER COMMANDING OFFICERS AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, COUNCILMAN FOLSOM.
CHIEF, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO MEET WITH YOU.
I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE. I APOLOGIZE.
I WANT TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY, BUT.
I'M VERY I'M PROUD OF YOU, CHIEF, BECAUSE I WORE THAT BLUE UNIFORM.
AND FOR A CHIEF OF POLICE WHO JUST TOOK OVER A DEPARTMENT THAT YOU SERVED IN OVER 20 YEARS TO COME UP AND GIVE A PRESENTATION, MOST CHIEFS WOULDN'T GIVE A PRESENTATION LIKE THAT.
WASN'T THE CHIEF ALL THEM YEARS.
SO I'M PROUD OF WHAT YOU SAID.
I'M PROUD OF THIS PRESENTATION.
I'M REALLY JUST COMING FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
I COULD I COULD HEAR IT IN YOUR VOICE AND HOW YOU GAVE THIS PRESENTATION.
AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF YOUR DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE PROUD THAT THEY HAVE YOU AS A CHIEF.
AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A CHIEF.
THAT'S YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BEING THE BUILDING TO LOSE ALL THEM ROUNDS.
OK. YOU KNOW, WE ARE SO MUCH WE HAVE TO DO.
TO GET. I WANT THIS DEPARTMENT TO BE THE BEST LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO BE RANKED. TO WHAT? 241 I WANT TO BE RANKED NUMBER ONE.
I DON'T WANT CRIME AND PALM BAY TO BE LIKE CRIME IN ORLANDO.
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ONLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT'S EVERYBODY WHO'S ELECTED ON THIS DAIS RESPONSIBILITY.
BECAUSE WE PITCHED THE RIGHT TO CZECHS FOR YOU.
WE GET THE WE GET TO SUPPORT YOU.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WATCH TV.
I WATCH THE NEWS. OTHER THAN BASEBALL AND WWE WRESTLING.
I'M LOOKING AT WHEN I LOOK AT THE NEWS, I SEE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
UVALDE, A TEXAS AND HIGHLAND PARK CHICAGO THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DEALING WITH ISSUES.
BUFFALO. I CAN NAME CITIES AFTER CITIES.
AND THE ISSUES THAT THEY DEAL WITH.
AND IN THE CONDITION THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD DEAL WITH ISSUES LIKE THAT.
THAT'S NOT A REFLECTION ON YOU, CHIEF.
IT'S NOT A REFLECTION ON YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP.
OKAY. AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF YOUR DEPARTMENT.
IS THIS COUNCIL RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS THAT YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB AND TO KEEP PALM BAY SAFE? AND I WILL BE I WILL FAIL IN MY DUTIES NOT TO DO THAT.
I DIDN'T GET ELECTED TO SIT MY ASS ON THIS DAIS.
I GOT ELECTED TO SERVE PALM BAY AND TO GIVE THIS CITY WHAT IT NEEDS.
THE PROSPECTS, AND WE CANNOT GO FORWARD WITHOUT A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE IN MY CONCERN.
AND I'M I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.
LIKE I SAID, ONCE AGAIN, I'M PROUD OF THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.
AND I'M PROUD OF YOU, GIVEN THIS OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, CHIEF.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
THE ONLY REASON I CAME BACK, I STAYED.
THAT'S ALL THAT IS MOTIVATING.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I SEE YOUR COMMANDERS IN THE AUDIENCE.
DEPUTY CHIEF, I SEE YOU BACK THERE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. HOLDING IT DOWN AT THE DOOR.
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I APPRECIATE ALL YOU ALL.WHAT I WANT TO SPEAK ON LATER ON IS GOING TO BE PULLED, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON A PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR A TELECOMMUNICATION POSITION WHERE HIGH SCHOOLER CAN COME IN AS AN INTERN OR PART OF IT.
YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING RIGHT THERE.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK ON TWO MORE THINGS, PALM BAY POWELL.
ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING THAT AGAIN OR IS THAT SOMETHING DOWN THE LINE OR.
YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE OWE THAT TO THE KIDS.
AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT.
TO MAKE THAT GUARANTEE AS WELL.
KIND OF MESSED UP FOR HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE WERE LOOKING AT PANTHERS TO POLICE, CORRECT? THE PANTHERS FOR BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR BEARS THE BADGES GOBERT'S PETE FILIBERTO KNOWS SO BUT I WANTED TO SEE BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY YOU SEE LIKE IN THESE HIGH SCHOOLS LIKE THE MILITARY BRANCHES WILL GO IN THERE AND THEY'LL RECRUIT AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE RECRUITERS ARE IN THERE.
AND I SEE PRIME EXAMPLES WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SPOTS.
AND I THINK IF WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW.
WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THE NEXT FUTURE CHIEF OR DEPUTY CHIEF.
CORRECT. ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS AGREED.
SO. SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS.
BUT CHIEF, ALL Y'ALL DOING AMAZING JOB.
APPRECIATE IT. WE HAVE YOUR WE GOT YOUR SIX.
I KNOW WE BUMPED YOU ALL UP IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, SALARY FOR SWORN OFFICERS.
BUT AS YOU'RE STATING TO US, IT'S MORE THAN THAT IN REGARDS TO TELECOMMUNICATIONS.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH RECRUITING.
IT'S LIKE JROTC RIGHT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
CHIEF, YOU'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
YOUR PRESENTATION IS RIGHT ON POINT.
IT SHOWS OUR LACK AND IT IDENTIFIES THESE ARE NEEDS.
AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO ATTACK THIS.
RIGHT? WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS LITTLE, LITTLE BITS AND PIECES.
BUT I WANT TO ALSO ECHO HOW IMPRESSED AND HOW ENCOURAGED I AM.
I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THAT.
THAT IS A PRIORITY THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND IT IS SO PREVALENT TODAY IN OUR SOCIETY.
YOU'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND I'M PROUD LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE ON COUNCIL.
YOU'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND YOU MAKE US ALL PALM BAY PROUD ARE.
DEPUTY MAYOR. PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
FIRST UP, JUSTIN SOKOLSKI, FOLLOWED BY TIM BLAND.JUSTIN BOLTANSKI 4387 MAGENTA ISLES DRIVE.
EPA VIOLATIONS, OSHA VIOLATIONS, RETALIATION, SEXUAL HARASSMENT, PHYSICAL ASSAULT, WORKMAN'S COMP RETALIATION DISCRIMINATION, COUNTLESS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYMENT VIOLATIONS.
ALLOWING CITY EMPLOYEES TO OPERATE CITY VEHICLES INTOXICATED.
I MEAN, THAT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION.
THIS IS THE CULTURE THAT WAS DEVELOPED UNDER FRED POMPEY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF CITY LEADERSHIP.
WHEN THESE ACTIONS ARE REPORTED, THEY'RE EITHER NOT ADDRESSED OR THEY ARE HALFHEARTEDLY LOOKED INTO.
THEREFORE, I AM ONCE AGAIN REQUESTING THE IMMEDIATE TERMINATION OF FRED POPPY AND FOR COUNSEL TO PUT FORTH A MOTION TO RENAME FRED POPPY PARK THE TERMINATION OF PATRICIA SMITH AND JOSH HUDAK.
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BUT I HEARD SHE RECENTLY RESIGNED.SHERMAN, I ALSO CALL FOR YOUR RESIGNATION AS CITY MANAGER.
MAYOR MEDINA, YOU CALL PALM BAY THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
BUT GREATNESS STARTS AND CONTINUES WITH PROGRESS SINCE YOU'VE TAKEN OFFICE.
ALL I'VE SEEN IS PHOTO OPS AND GOOD SOUNDBITES WITH LITTLE TO NO PROGRESS.
THANK YOU. TIM BLAND, FOLLOWED BY PHILIP COCHRAN.
GOOD EVENING. TIM BLAND, 1992 WIND BROOK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
TWO WEEKS AGO, I HEARD FROM THE FIRE CHIEF.
TONIGHT WE HEAR FROM THE POLICE CHIEF.
YEAH. BOTH OF THEM UNDERSTAFFED, UNDER DEVELOP UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT STILL PALM BAY CONTINUES TO DEVELOP, DEVELOP, DEVELOP.
DEVELOPING IN FRONT OF OUR SERVICES COULD BE THE WATER AND SEWER AS WELL.
I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THAT ONE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO SLOW DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY.
NOW, I KNOW YOU HAVE A POINT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT A POTENTIAL MORATORIUM ON 50 PLUS UNIT DEVELOPMENTS OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I DRIVE AROUND THIS CITY AND IT'S JUST NEW HOUSE AFTER NEW HOUSE AFTER NEW HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, CAN THEY EVEN GET DOWN ON SOUTH BABCOCK TO ALL THOSE NEW DEVELOPMENTS DOWN THERE? CAN THEY GET OVER BY HERITAGE PARKWAY IN A TIMELY MANNER? I SEE THE THE RESPONSE TIMES.
PALM BAY IS THE WORST, THE WORST IN BREVARD COUNTY AND 41 OUT OF 46 IN THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA.
WHEN IS EVERYBODY GOING TO SAY, THIS IS ENOUGH? WE'VE GOT TO SLOW DOWN.
WE REALLY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN, PLEASE.
AND THIS SHIRT SHOULD SAY STOP FUTURE LAND USE CHANGES.
NOW, I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO COME UP LATER ON THIS YEAR.
SO I PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF THE CITIZENS OF THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD. PALM BAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. PHILIP PARKER FOLLOW FOLLOWED BY ROBERT STICE.
GOOD AFTERNOON. PHIL CORCORAN 1878 WIND BROOK DRIVE.
I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW THAT IT'S A COCHRAN.
THANK YOU. I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW THAT THE MAJOR IS CLOSED.
THE OWNER CONTINUES FLIP FLOPPING ON HER POSITION WITH RESPECT TO SAVING THE GOLF COURSE.
ON JUNE 15, SHE STATED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ONCE THE COURSE IS CLOSED, IT WILL NOT RETURN.
THE CLOSURE WILL BE PERMANENT ON JUNE 24TH.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, OUR CITIZENS GROUP, MET WITH MS..
JOYNER TO DISCUSS SOLUTIONS TO THE TO SAVE THE GOLF COURSE.
SHE REQUESTED FUNDING FROM OUR HOYAS TO HELP WITH MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY.
A ROUGH CALCULATION, GIVEN HER REQUEST PUTS THE DONATION BETWEEN ONE AND $2 MILLION A YEAR AFTER I EXPLAINED THAT HOYAS DO NOT HAVE MILLIONS IN PETTY CASH AVAILABLE AND IT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS TO A YEAR TO GET ANY SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING, SHE WROTE BACK IN AN EMAIL ON JUNE 29TH, I WILL BE DISCONTINUING COURSE MAINTENANCE DUE TO FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AND INABILITY FOR ALTERNATIVE FEASIBLE SOLUTIONS.
THEN ON JULY 1ST, SHE FLIPS BACK TO WANTING HOA MONEY.
COUNCILMAN FELIX LIVES ON A COURSE.
I'M WONDERING HOW HE FEELS ABOUT GIVING JOY LLC 1200 DOLLARS GIFT EVERY YEAR.
I HAVE GIVEN YOU A COPY OF TWO LETTERS, ONE FROM BILLY HORSCHEL DETAILING HIS TIME AT THE MAJORS, AND THE SECOND FROM THE ARNOLD PALMER DESIGN COMPANY, WANTING TO HELP IMPROVE THE MARKETING OF THE FACILITY.
IT IS SAD THAT HERITAGE AND BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOLS WILL NO LONGER HAVE GOLF PROGRAMS. SO SHE WANTS MORE THAN $10 MILLION.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEIR MAKING AN ENORMOUS PROFIT.
THIS IS AMERICA, BUT IT COMES AT OUR EXPENSE.
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SHE STATES THAT SHE WILL REOPEN THE COURSE IF SHE GETS MILLIONS.THE MILLION DOLLAR DONATION FROM THE HOA.
AT THE SAME TIME, SHE IS SELLING OFF RANGE BALLS AND OTHER ASSETS.
BUT THE TRUTH IS, SHE HAS DONE NOTHING BUT SIGN CONTRACTS WITH NOT JUST ONE BUT TWO DEVELOPERS.
SADLY, THE COURSE HAS BECOME A HANGOUT FOR YOUNGSTERS.
MAYBE MR. WARNER THINKS IF SHE WAITS, WE WILL LET OUR GUARD DOWN OR CARE LESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
BUT IT'S OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY.
WE WILL NOT LET HER DESTROY IT.
GENTLEMEN, PLEASE STAND WITH THE PEOPLE AND KEEP THE FUTURE.
USE DESIGNATION AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISION 2040.
AT ONE UNIT FOR FIVE ACRES AS IT IS TODAY.
ROBERT STACE, FOLLOWED BY MISS DOLORES PRICE.
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE CHATTED ABOUT DAN.
THE BAHRAINI WAS OUT HERE AND TALKED ABOUT HIM.
HE WAS A GUY WHO ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO GET THE OTHER 328 HOMES HALF INTO 328 HOMES BUILT IN STONE.
AND YOU WANTED A BREAKAWAY FENCE AND I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.
AS TIM JUST SAID, WE TALKED TO THE FIRE CHIEF LAST WEEK AND A CHIEF OF POLICE THIS WEEK.
THIS HAS GOT TO BE TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE.
EVERY ONE OF YOU, EVERY ONE OF YOUR STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR SAFETY AND MY SAFETY.
THIS HAS GOT TO GO TO THE TOP OF THE LIST, GENTLEMEN.
SO I BEAT TO DEATH THE TRAFFIC FATALITIES THAT WE'VE HAD ON BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.
NOW WE WANT TO GIVE IT SEEMS LIKE AN OXYMORON.
BUT THIS IS WE'RE TURNING THIS INTO SUBURBAN CONGESTION OR STAGNATION.
YOU ALREADY HAVE SO MANY WAYS GOING OUT.
YOU'RE PUTTING US IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A COMMUNITY OTHER THAN WHEN I LIVED ON A HOOD 100 YEARS AGO WHERE I FELT UNSAFE.
YOUR RESPONSE? TIME OF 7 MINUTES AND 40 SOMETHING SECONDS.
I'D RATHER CALL A NEIGHBOR THAN A COP BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY CAN'T GET THERE.
I NEED YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? AND IF IF HIS AMMUNITION IS GONE, I'M NOT HANDING HIM ANY OF MINE TO GO AFTER THE BAD GUYS HERE.
ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
SO HEATHER LLC AND CULTURE HOMES, YOU WANT TO DROP 367 HOMES RIGHT ON TOP WITH THEIR ENTRANCE ABOUT 50 YARDS JUST SOUTH OF ME.
I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO STOP AND ASSESS AND LOOK AT WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.
GOT TO HAVE A MORATORIUM, BECAUSE AS YOU TOLD ME, SIR, IT'S GOING TO SAVE LIVES.
IT REALLY IS GOING TO SAVE LIVES.
AND WE NEED TO GET THAT FUTURE USE MAP AND MAKE THAT PART OF THE CITY.
I MEAN, YOU WANT TO YOU WANT THAT BEAUTIFUL.
YOU WANT THAT PART BEAUTIFUL AND USABLE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ALL THESE HOUSES ON TOP.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK TO MOVE.
SO WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE? MY QUESTION TO YOU, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP ME SAFE AND MY FAMILY SAFE? OK CHIEF OF POLICE WAS UP HERE POURING OUT HIS GUTS FOR WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND I'M NOT I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING.
THANK YOU. DOLORES PRICE, FOLLOWED BY JOSEPHINE HUNTER.
GOOD EVENING. I'M DOLORES PRICE.
I'M A RESIDENT HERE IN PALM BAY FOR SINCE 1988.
AND I'VE JOINED A GROUP CALLED.
AND I WANT TO JUST SAY A FEW THINGS IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
DOLORES GET CLOSER TO THE MIC, MA'AM.
I WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, WE KNOW WHERE OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN.
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HOW DIVIDED WE'VE BEEN.THE. ANIMOSITY AND THE BACKBITING AND THE HURT AND THE DIVISION THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH.
WE WANT IT TO GO BACK TO DECENCY.
AND I'M SPEAKING NOW IN REFERENCE TO THE.
MAILING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AS RESIDENTS HERE IN PALM BAY AGAINST OUR DEPUTY MAYOR.
I HAVE BEEN HIS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.
AND THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING PERPETUALLY.
IT'S BEEN SOMETHING TO ATTACK.
THIS YOUNG MAN HAS SERVED AS OUR DEPUTY MAYOR.
DO WE HAVE SOMEONE AT A STATE LEVEL GOING AT A LOCAL? CITY COUNCILMAN.
WHY IS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BEING USED TO SEND THESE THINGS OUT TO THE RESIDENTS HERE IN PALM BAY? WHY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO I'M SAYING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT GOING BACK TO DECENCY.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE GOT BIGGER THINGS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND IT SHOULD NOT BE A POLITICAL NIGHTMARE OF WE'RE ATTACKING ONE ANOTHER FOR OUR OWN GAIN.
THIS IS NOT WHAT WE PUT POLITICIANS IN OFFICE FOR.
FROM A NATIONAL LEVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A CITY COUNCIL LEVEL.
WE DID NOT PUT THEM IN OFFICE TO DO THIS.
THESE THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN DONE AGAINST THEM.
AND IT'S EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT THERE IS A REELECTION.
THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING ME.
JOSEPHINE HUNTER, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR KEN DELGADO.
JOSEPHINE HUNTER, FOLLOWED BY A PASTOR.
I'M JOSEPHINE HUNTER, 3218 PECAN STREET, MELBOURNE.
MY OFFICE ADDRESS 2475 PALM BAY ROAD, SUITE 225 PALM BAY FLORIDA 32905.
GOOD EVENING. I AM PART OF THE SAME COMMITTEE THAT RETIRED POLICE OFFICER DELORES PRICE JUST MENTIONED. JUST BACK TO DECENCY.
WE NEED OUR COUNSEL TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION IN OUR POLITICAL ELECTIONS, TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE SO THAT IF CHILDREN ARE WATCHING, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THINGS IN THE MAIL AND WONDERING WHAT IS GOING ON THAT THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO ASPIRE TO BE SITTING WHERE YOU ALL ARE BECAUSE THEY MAY BE UNDER ATTACK.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL I TELL PEOPLE, EVERYONE HAS BEEN AN EX SOMETHING.
WE ALL HAVE A PASS, BUT NO ONE SHOULD BE DIGGING UP A PERSON'S PERSONAL PASS TO MAIL OUT PUBLICLY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THINGS WE NEED TO GET DONE.
AND I'M VERY PLEASED WITH MY COUNCIL, MY MAYOR, MY, MY, MY COUNCILMAN.
YOU KNOW, YOU ALL ARE ACCESSIBLE.
AND MR. JOHNSON, EVERY TIME WE CALL, YOU'RE THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU BOTH ARE THERE AT JUNETEENTH.
MAYOR, YOU CAN MAKE IT THIS YEAR, BUT YOU WERE THERE AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE CALL AND NEED YOU, YOU WERE THERE.
AND SO YOU'RE ACCESSIBLE IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
BUT WE'RE SAYING BACK TO DECENCY, IT FEELS LIKE AN ATTACK ON THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, ATTACK ON THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE NEED TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
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IMPORTANT, WHICH IS I WAS LISTENING TO THEM SPEAKING EARLIER.THERE ARE SO MANY CONCERNS THAT WHAT WE GET IN THE MAIL SHOULD NOT BE ONE OF THEM.
SO IF WE CAN FOCUS ON THE PLACE THAT NEEDS A FENCE WITH AN OPENING SO THAT A VEHICLE CAN GET THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HOMELESS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT I WORK WITH.
IT'S JUST SO MUCH GOING ON THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON RATHER THAN PERPETUATING HATE.
YOU KNOW, THIS COUNTRY WENT THROUGH SOMETHING AND WE ARE TRYING TO BOUNCE BACK.
THE WORD SAYS WHEN WE HAVE LOVE ONE FOR ANOTHER, THEN WILL MAN KNOW WE ARE HIS DISCIPLES.
I SEE NO LOVE WE GOT TO SEE LOVE PEOPLE WE HAVE GOT TO LOVE EACH OTHER.
THANK YOU, PASTOR KEN DELGADO.
KEN DELGADO WON FIVE FOR ANGELO ROAD, SOUTHEASTERN PALM BAY.
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THOUGH. THIS IS A GREAT UNITED STATES.
WE ALL KNOW IT HAS A CHECKERED PAST OF THINGS THAT ARE DONE WRONG.
BEFORE EVEN THE UNITED STATES WAS MADE, THERE WAS AN INDIAN NAMED SQUANTO.
SQUANTO WAS TAKEN CAPTIVE ALL THE WAY TO SPAIN.
FROM SPAIN, HE WENT TO ENGLAND WHERE HE LEARNED ENGLISH AND THEN WAS SET FREE.
AND HE WENT BACK TO BACK TO THE UNITED STATES OR TO THE AMERICAS AT THAT TIME AND WENT BACK TO LIVE WITH HIS PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER BECAUSE OF SICKNESS.
AND THEN SO HE WENT TO ANOTHER GROUP.
AND IN DOING SO THEY STARTED A NEW COLONY.
THE SQUANTO HAPPENED TO BE IN THAT VERY SAME LOCATION.
HE BECAME THE MEDIATOR TO THE FIRST INDIAN AND AMERICA COMPACTS, OR THEY MADE A TREATY THAT STOOD FOR 50 YEARS.
AND IN THAT HE KNEW WHERE TO HAVE SQUANTO SO THAT WHEN THESE PILGRIMS CAME OVER AND DEDICATED A COUNTRY TO GOD, THERE WOULD BE A COMMUNICATION CAPACITY BECAUSE OF SQUANTO.
AND MY LIFE THAT WAS IS NO LONGER IN THAT.
I'M WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS COME TO GIVE US HOPE.
AND THE HOPE IS, IS THIS THAT YOUR PAST CAN BE FORGIVEN? JESUS CHRIST MET A WOMAN WHO WAS CAUGHT IN AN ACT THAT REQUIRED BY THEIR LAW THAT SHE BE STONED TO DEATH.
BUT JESUS SAID, IF YOU HAVE NO SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE WISER TO THE YOUNGER.
THEY BEGAN DROPPING THEIR STONES.
AND JESUS, WHO HAD EVERY RIGHT TO CAST A STONE, SAID, WHO IS THEM THAT CONDEMN YOU? SHE SAID, THEY'RE NOT THERE.
CONDEMN YOU. GO AND JUST SIN NO MORE.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR PAST MAY BE.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT NOT ONLY DOES HE SAY SAVE ME, BUT HE CAN ALSO USE YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOUR PAST HAPPENS TO BE, BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD.
THANK YOU. SO IN FOLLOWING DAVID RAINS.
PUBLIC. BUT YOU RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE HERE IN PALM BAY.
I'D LIKE TO BACK UP WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID.
I THINK THEY'VE ALL LEFT ABOUT THE CITY GROWING.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE LOVE TO HAVE A FAMILY OF 14 KIDS.
I COULDN'T AFFORD TO FEED THEM.
WE'RE GOING TO BE A CITY THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD.
SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO GET FROM SANFILIPPO BACK TO EMERSON.
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LET'S CHECK IT OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU RECALL THE MOTHER'S DAY FIRES.SO GUYS NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE GROWTH.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR DOLLARS.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THEM. BUT SOMETIMES WE'VE GOT TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
I SERVED 23 YEARS IN THE MILITARY FROM THE YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME IF I GET A LITTLE EMOTIONAL.
23 YEARS IN THE MILITARY FROM THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM TO THE SKIES OF BAGHDAD.
THE PRESENTATION OF THE FIRST CITY FLAG ON OUR FLAG, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT.
WAS. PRESENTED TO A CONVICTED FELON.
THAT SPENT TIME IN FORT LEAVENWORTH MILITARY PRISON.
IT WAS AN INSULT TO ALL PRESENT AND FORMER MILITARY MEMBERS LIVING AND DEAD.
I THINK THE MAYOR HAD A GOOD, HEARTFELT REASON FOR DOING IT.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO SANCTION HIM.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST YOU, MAYOR.
DAVID RAINS, FOLLOWED BY SCOTT ROBINSON.
I AM HERE BECAUSE OF I AM A BLUE COLLAR WORKER.
AND I FOUND OUT THAT FIELDS AND SERVICE, EVERYBODY GOT 20% RAISE AND WE DID NOT GET ONE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST FEEL IT'S VERY UNFAIR.
WE FEEL SEGREGATED OVER IT AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE GO OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO FIX WATER MAIN BREAKS, GIVE PEOPLE POTABLE WATER, GIVE THE CITY FIRE PROTECTION WITH FIRE HYDRANTS.
AND WE JUST FEEL THAT'S VERY UNFAIR.
AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY BECAUSE I CAN'T BELIEVE NOBODY THOUGHT ABOUT GIVING SOME DEPARTMENT OF RAISE AND NOT US WHEN WE ACTUALLY GO OUT AND FIX THE PROBLEM. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SCOTT.
IT'S GOT AN ELECTRONIC BUTTON THERE, SIR.
AH, WHEN IT SAYS HEIGHT, IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU READ WITH THINGS YOU LEARN ABOUT.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT JOSEPH MAYO.
JOSEPH MAYO WAS THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HONORED BY MR. MEDINA OVER THE HOLIDAY.
SO I THINK WE'VE GOT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS.
OKAY. SO MAYBE SHOULD WE JUST HOLD THAT? I'LL BE HAPPY TO REPORT AND CALL YOU UP DURING THAT TIME.
YES, SIR. IT'S GOING TO BE THE VERY NEXT ITEM.
THANK YOU. SO DOES THAT IN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SIR. SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT WE'RE ABOUT TO WE WE MOVED ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER NEW BUSINESS TO GO RIGHT BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS. BUT BEFORE WE DO, AND WE'LL BE TAKING THAT UP.
BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH OUR HOUR MEETING AT THIS TIME.
AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OUR RECESS, OUR BRIEF RECESS COUNCIL VOTED TO HAVE
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ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER NEW BUSINESS.MOVE IT UP TO RIGHT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO AT THIS TIME, IF YOU DO WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS ON IN OUR AGENDA, THE DISCUSSION. OF ADDITIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE CITY FLAG PROGRAM.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GOING TO.
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THANK YOU. THIS IS A.WELL, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I START, I.
IF I AN UNSPOKEN I'M SPEAKING TO MY MAYOR MEDINA IF I SAY SOMETHING THAT OFFEND YOU.
CHARGE IT TO MY HEAD, NOT TO MY HEART.
ESPECIALLY TO YOU BECAUSE SHE MADE THAT COMMENT.
I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
OK. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I WAS OFFENDED TO.
I'M SPEAKING. AS A COUNCILMAN FOR THE CITY OF PAUL.
YOU AS A VETERAN, A FAMILY MEMBER OR MILITARY MEMBER OF FIRST RESPONDER.
NOW, THIS PROGRAM WAS MAYOR MEDINA IDEA.
IT WAS HIS IDEA. AND IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
AND AND I'M A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH A FLAG BEING FLOWN.
I HAD TWO FLAGS FLOWN FOR MY MILITARY SERVICE AND FOR MY LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICE OF THE U.S.
CAPITOL. AND I HONOR THAT VERY IT'S VERY DEAR TO MY HEART.
AND I KNOW THE INTENTION THAT THE MAYOR CAME UP WITH TO HONOR OUR VETERAN.
AND I STILL SUPPORT THAT INTENTION.
AND THE COUNCIL AGREED TO THE GUIDELINES FOR MILITARY PERSONNEL, FIRST RESPONDERS AND VETERANS.
OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE GUIDELINES AND ALSO THE GUIDELINES WERE.
EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAD, I BELIEVE, THREE OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE YEAR TO PRESENT.
ANYBODY WHO FALLS IN THEM CATEGORY WITH A FLAG FLOWN OVER THE CITY AND FOLD IT AND PRESENT IT TO A FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S A VETERAN OR A POLICE OFFICER IN THIS COMMUNITY OR A.
WE VETERAN WHO'S WHO HAS SERVED OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSON HAS SERVED.
SO THAT WAS THE GUIDELINES AND THAT'S WHAT WE WENT FOR.
OKAY. SO THE MAN TOOK HIS OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A FLAG AND HE CHOSE HIS VETERAN TO PUT HE CHOSE THE PERSON TO.
HE WAS GOING TO PRESENT IT TO OK.
THAT PERSON THAT RECEIVED THAT FLAG.
I KNOW I'M GOING ON A SOAPBOX, BUT I'M GOING TO GET TO THE POINT REAL SOON.
WHEN I SEE THIS FLAG, IT MEANS DIFFERENT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
DIFFERENT. WHEN YOU SEE THIS FLAG, IT MEANS IT BRINGS IT.
HOW CAN I SAY IT MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO YOU VERSUS ME? WHAT IT MEANS TO ME.
AND I LEARNED HOW IMPORTANT WAS THE FLAG BECAUSE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO IT.
AND IN SCHOOLS IN NEW YORK CITY.
WHEN I WENT TO THE YANKEE GAME OR THE SHEIK, WE.
STOOD UP FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AS THE FLAG WAVED ABOVE SHEA STADIUM.
WHEN I JOINED THE MILITARY AND SERVED IN KOREA.
THE U.S. ARMY WAS THE FIRST BRANCH I SERVED IN.
AND I SERVED IN THE DMZ, AND I AND I MET KOREANS IN SOUTH KOREA.
HOW THIS FLAG HOW THEY VIEW THIS FLAG.
BILL CLINTON SENT THE MILITARY AFTER HURRICANE MITCH TO SCORE.
I SAW HOW IMPORTANT THE HONDURAS LOOKED AT MILITARY PERSONNEL WHO WORE THIS FLAG ON THIS UNIFORM.
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THIS FLAG. WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THIS FLAG.AND WHEN YOU GIVE IT TO SOMEONE.
YOU DO IT IN HONOR OF A PERSON WHO IS DESERVING OF THAT, RIGHT? A PERSON WHO'S DESERVING OF THAT FLAG.
SO THE CRITERIA IN MY THE PERSON WHO RECEIVED THIS FLAG, JOSEPH MAYO, IN MY OPINION, DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA OF A VETERAN.
YOU'RE NOT. YOU NEED TO BE DISCHARGED HONORABLY.
YOU NEED TO HAVE AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE, ACCORDING TO U.S..
BUT THIS IS THE REASON WHY I CAME UP WITH THIS POLICY.
THE TERM VETERAN MEANS A PERSON WHO SERVED IN THE ACTIVE MILITARY NAVAL AIR SPACE SERVICE.
HE HAS BEEN DISCHARGED OR RELEASED.
THEREFORE, UNDER THE CONDITION OTHER THAN DISHONORABLE.
MR. MAYO WAS NOT DISCHARGED WITH AN HONORABLE.
HE DIDN'T RECEIVE AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE.
CAN I BE COURT MARTIAL? AND SERVE IN LEAVENWORTH.
RECEIVE A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE AND CALL YOURSELF A VETERAN.
OKAY. SO YOU DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA, IN MY OPINION.
I. AND HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN GIVEN THAT FLAG.
AND I CAN GET INTO THE IRAQI SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
BUT JUST ON THAT, THIS IS MY ARGUMENT.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE HE MET THE CRITERIA.
SO THE FLAG SHOULD'VE BEEN GIVEN TO HIM.
OK. BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE AGREED ON.
RIGHT. ADDED A LITTLE MORE STUFF TO IT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IF WE HAVE A POLICE OFFICER WHO SHOOT A UNARMED CIVILIAN.
IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY, AS YOU SEE ON THE NEWS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRES THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THE STATE ATTORNEY PROSECUTE THAT OFFICER AND THAT OFFICER SERVED TIME IN PRISON.
AND GET OUT. PALM BAY IS NOT GOING TO HONOR THAT POLICE OFFICER.
AND YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT POLICE OFFICER TO BE HONORED.
DO SOMETHING GETTING RECEIVE ARTICLE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT AN ARTICLE 15 IS? IT'S NOT A GOOD THING THAT THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW ORDERS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HONOR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.
IF A IF YOU GET DISCHARGED FROM THE MILITARY.
BAD CONDUCT THIS DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE.
WE SHOULD NOT HONOR YOU AS A VETERAN IN THIS CITY.
BECAUSE IN THAT TERM IT DISRESPECT.
THE LOVED ONES AND THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE.
SO THE THAT'S THAT'S JUST THE ADDED THAT TO THE POLICY.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, IF ONE OF ME OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY, THEY GOT THREE CHANCES TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY. BUT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPROVE IT.
AND THEN WE CAN HONOR THAT PERSON WITH A FLAG OVER CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S THAT'S MY POLICY AND I YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUES.
SO. COUNCILMAN FOSTER THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS I WANT TO I WANT TO JUST PUT MY HEART OUT THERE FOR THE FIRST.
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THAT'S THE FIRST THING.BECAUSE HE GAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, SO DID BUTCH.
UNDERSTANDING THE HEART BEHIND THIS.
AND I WANT TO JUST EXPRESS IT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS RAISED WATCHING ALL EDDIE MURPHY MOVIES ON MY DAD'S LAP.
I WAS RAISED WATCHING SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE GOING OFF TO VIETNAM.
AND AS A CHILD, I SAW THOSE INDIVIDUALS COMING BACK AND BEING DISHONORED.
SOME MIGHT HAVE HAD A BAD CONDUCT DISCHARGE.
SOME MIGHT HAVE HAD DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
THEY WERE SENT TO A FOUR WAY FARAWAY LAND.
TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS. AND WHEN THEY GOT BACK, THEY WEREN'T HONORED AT ALL.
AND I BELIEVE IT IS A STORY OF MANY OF OUR AMERICAN HEROES THAT FOUGHT.
IN THIS CRISIS, THIS GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SHARE IS HE'S A PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT.
AND HE HANDLED WHAT THE JOB WAS.
HE LED MEN INTO COMBAT ON A CONTINUAL BASIS.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT ISN'T BEING CONSIDERED OR PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
THAT JOSEPH MAYO SUFFERS FROM PTSD.
IT WAS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT THERE WAS SLEEP DEPRIVATION.
DURING. IS HIS SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY.
WAS ANTAGONIZING AS THEY CAUGHT THEM AND RELEASE THEM, AND THEY SUFFERED LOSSES OF THEIR MEN BECAUSE OF THE CATCH AND RELEASE POLICIES.
YOU'RE RIGHT. MY HEART IN ALL OF THIS.
WHAT'S TO HEAL AND TO PROVIDE HONOR FOR NOT WHAT HE DID BECAUSE I CONDONE WHAT HE DID, BUT WHAT HE DID TO SERVE THIS NATION.
TO SACRIFICE ALL THE SACRIFICES HIM AND HIS FAMILY ENDURED IN SERVING DURING THOSE DEPLOYMENTS.
THERE IS A COMPONENT TO ALL OF THIS.
WHERE THERE IS A SACRIFICE WHEN MEN SERVE THAT I NEVER EXPERIENCED THE INFANTRYMEN.
THEY HAVE THIS CODE OF SERVICE AND THEY GO BACK OUT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEIR BROTHER IN ARMS. SO THEY WILL PUT THEMSELVES IN A POSITION AND I SAY 11 BRAVO.
THAT'S THE ARMY'S TERM FOR THE INFANTRYMAN, THE SOLDIER, WHICH IS WHAT JOSEPH MAYO IS.
HE ACTUALLY EARNED HIS COMBAT INFANTRY BRIDES AND TO MANY 11 BRAVO INFANTRYMEN IN THE ARMY THAT HOLDS A NEAR AND DEAR ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THEIR LIVES.
HIS PURPLE HEART AND BRONZE STAR.
WELL THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME.
I SENSE THE HEALING IN HIS LIFE.
I SENSE A SENSE OF OF RESTORATION.
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AND IT'S SO ELOQUENTLY PUT.IT WAS BASED OUT OF COMPASSION BECAUSE HE DID SERVE AND HE DID PAY THE PRICE.
AND HE WAS, AS YOU MENTIONED, INCARCERATED.
BUT IT'S THE SERVICE THAT I HONORED, NOT THE ACT.
THIS MAN IS ONE OF THE MOST HUMBLE INDIVIDUALS YOU WOULD EVER WANT TO MEET.
AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I DID SPEAK WITH HIM.
AND I TOLD THEM I STAND WITH HIM.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.
AND ABANDONED THOSE THAT PAID THE PRICE.
WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT PTSD AND THE 22.
AND SO IF I WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF RESTORATION.
FOR A MAN THAT'S SUFFERING FOR WHAT HE DID ON THE BATTLEFIELD AND LET ALONE.
A YOUNG MAN, AND HE CAME OUT A DIFFERENT PERSON EACH AND EVERY TIME AFTER HIS DEPLOYMENT, HE CAME BACK A DIFFERENT PERSON. SO I UNDERSTAND.
AND I WISH TO SAY I'M IN AGREEMENT WHERE I HONOR ALL SERVICE MEMBERS, I HONOR ALL VETERANS.
THAT HAS BEEN MY PASSION MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I DO THAT? BECAUSE IT'S EMBEDDED IN ME.
THERE'S A MEASURE OF HOW THEY CAME BACK.
I CANNOT THINK OF THESE MEN THAT I SEE AT THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION WITH PTSD.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT PTSD IS REAL.
AND PEOPLE ARE LIVING WITH IT.
AND PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING SUICIDE OVER IT.
THEY CALLED THEM THESE VILE, VICIOUS NAMES AND.
WHAT HE DID ON THE BATTLEFIELD BEFORE THAT HORRIFIC DAY.
AND SO WITH THAT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME BECAUSE YOU SHARED.
YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THE HEART ISSUE AT THIS, AND YOU GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE IT RIGHT NOW.
SO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON CALLED THE FIRST SPEAKER, PLEASE.
WE HAVE KEN MCDONALD, FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN.
GOOD EVENING. KEN MCDONALD WITH THE BREVARD DEMOCRATS.
BUT TONIGHT I'M HERE AS A COMBAT VETERAN.
I WAS IN IRAQ, IN BAGHDAD AT THE SAME TIME AS JOSEPH MAYO.
YOUR DEFENSE OF HIM IS PREPOSTEROUS.
I THINK IT WAS A POLITICAL STUNT.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE. NOW, I WILL GIVE YOU THIS.
THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU WERE EGREGIOUSLY WRONG.
IT WASN'T IN THE HEAT OF BATTLE.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING WHERE HE MADE A MISTAKE IN A FLASH IN HIS LIFE HAS CHANGED.
NO, THIS WAS PREMEDITATED MURDER.
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AND YOU MENTIONED TO THE FLORIDA TODAY THAT YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT HE WAS TRAINED TO DO.WELL, THAT ALSO IS PREPOSTEROUS.
WE WERE NEVER TRAINED TO EXECUTE DETAINEES, NEVER.
WE WERE TRAINED IN THE GENEVA CONVENTION AND THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO TO.
AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS POLICY.
THERE'S A LOT OF VETERANS HERE AT THIS MEETING.
YOU HAVE 10,000 VETERANS IN PALM BAY.
YOU COULD HAVE CHOSE FROM MANY FIRST RESPONDERS YOU COULD HAVE CHOSE FROM.
BUT YOU CHOSE THIS PERSON FOR WHATEVER REASON.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M NOT BUYING THE STORY.
BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT BURNS.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO SAY NONE OF US WERE IN THAT POINT IN TIME AND THAT PHYSICAL LOCATION WHEN THESE DECISIONS WERE BEING MADE. NONE OF US WE HAVE SPECULATIONS, WE HAVE GRAND IDEAS, BUT NONE OF US WERE THERE.
THIS PERSON SERVED MY COUNTRY.
MAYBE A BAD CHOICE WAS MADE, BUT THIS PERSON SERVED MY COUNTRY, RISKING HIS LIFE TO DO SO.
THE PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE ACTION OF THAT INDIVIDUAL, WHICH ISN'T WRITTEN DOWN, IT'S FELT IN THE HEART AND THE SOUL. THAT MAKES THE VETERAN TO ME THAT WAS WILLING TO RISK THEIR LIFE TO MAKE MY COUNTRY A LITTLE BETTER.
ROBERT BURNS, FOLLOWED BY KEITH ALLEN.
I'M A VETERAN. I'M RETIRED, HONORABLY RETIRED.
SO LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME AND SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
I LANDED IN IRAQ THE SAME PLACE HE WAS ON 911 OF 2009.
I WAS AN INFANTRY PLATOON SERGEANT.
I'VE DONE THE SAME THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE.
I'VE OPERATED AS A 50 CAL GUNNER.
A 240 BRAVO GUNNER ON TROOPS, ON TRUCKS.
I'VE HAD TO SHOOT AND KILL THE ENEMY.
AND I'VE HAD TO SAVE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT JUST TRIED TO KILL MY MY PLATOON.
AS A MEDIC. I UNDERSTAND THE FEELINGS THAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH.
KEEP RUNNING UP TO OUR TRUCKS WITH GRENADES.
I WOULD BE OUT OF MY MIND TO THINK THAT IF I DETAINED ONE OF THOSE CHILDREN THAT WE DIDN'T KILL OR ONE OF THOSE IRAQI INSURGENTS OR TERRORISTS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. AND THEN BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO MY JOB EFFECTIVELY, TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO COERCE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE WHO FALL UNDER ME TO GO MURDER THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THROW THEM IN A CANAL.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO MY JOB PROPERLY.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO RELITIGATE WHAT HE DID.
YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED? I'M NOT QUALIFIED.
THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE MADE THAT DECISION.
THEY'VE CONSIDERED HIS MULTIPLE COMBATS.
THEY CONSIDERED ALL THE TESTIMONY.
I EMPATHIZED WITH THE POSITION HE WAS IN.
HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SUFFERING.
A BAD CONDUCT. DISCHARGE OR DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE IS PUNITIVE.
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HE'S SUPPOSED TO SUFFER.YOU EQUIVOCATED THAT TO A WAR CRIMINAL.
AND I KNOW HE DIDN'T ASK YOU TO DO IT.
BECAUSE EVERY TIME I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT WORSE.
YOU START TALKING AGAIN AND YOU MAKE IT WORSE.
YOU COULD HAVE JUST SAID, I MADE A MISTAKE.
AND I'M SORRY, THERE'S 10,000 VETERANS IN THIS COMMUNITY ALONE THAT YOU COULD HAVE PICKED FROM, AND NOT JUST NORMAL VETERANS, SOME BAD ASS SOLDIERS THAT HAVE DONE SOME THINGS. THANK YOU.
KEITH ALLEN, FOLLOWED BY SCOTT ROBINSON.
I'M SORRY. SO I MYSELF AM A COMBAT INFANTRYMAN.
U.S. ARMY DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN, PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT AS WELL.
I'VE WRITTEN SOMETHING DOWN, AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE IT.
BE POLITE, BE PROFESSIONAL, BUT HAVE A PLAN TO KILL EVERYONE YOU MEET.
THOSE WERE THE FIRST WORDS THAT WERE TOLD TO US WHEN WE LANDED IN AFGHANISTAN.
THOSE ARE INTENSE WORDS, AND THEY SHOULD BE.
THEY PUT US ON EDGE THE ENTIRE TIME.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO EVERY VETERAN'S EXPERIENCES.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERY VETERAN ON HOW THEY FEEL.
I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR HOW I FEEL AND WHAT I EXPERIENCED.
HAVE A PLAN TO KILL EVERYONE YOU MEET.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE ACTIONS.
I'M NOT CONDONING THE ACTIONS THAT TOOK PLACE THAT DAY.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I ENGAGED IN.
BUT I ALSO PUT MY LIFE ON THE LINE AND OTHERS WENT WITH ME.
AND WE FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY OF SECOND CHANCES.
AND WHILE YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT DAY AND NOBODY DOES.
AND I HAVEN'T SEEN A SINGLE PERSON HERE TRYING TO AGREE WITH THIS MURDER WAS JUSTIFIED.
RIGHT. AND THEY'RE ANGRY ABOUT IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, EVERYONE HERE THAT'S SPOKEN TODAY HAS TOUCHED ON MENTAL HEALTH.
SO IF WE'RE A PLACE OF SECOND CHANCES.
THEN ARE WE JUST GOING TO SHUN THIS PERSON? BECAUSE YOU GUYS, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING.
YOU MAKE YOUR CRITERIA AND THAT'S FINE.
AND I RESPECT YOUR CRITERIA ON WHATEVER YOU GUYS SAID.
AND HE'S BEING DRAGGED BACK INTO THIS.
I WEAR A BRACELET EVERY DAY OF TWO GUYS THAT I SERVED WITH THAT BOTH COMMITTED SUICIDE.
AND I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP IT.
AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I JUST HOPE YOU WOULD HAVE DECENCY AND NOT DRAG THIS MAN INTO IT.
SCOTT ROBINSON, FOLLOWED BY DON PIERSALL.
SO I'D LIKE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON HIS SERVICE AND EXPLAIN TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ITS RESIDENTS AND TO THIS COUNCIL WHY JOE MAYO WAS A COMBAT LEADER WHO WAS DESERVING OF THIS AWARD AND WHY THIS CONVICTION IS AN UNFAIR CHARACTERIZATION OF
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JOE MAYO. SO I FIRST SERVED WITH JOE MAYO IN 2004 IN IRAQ.BUT I GOT TO WATCH JOE MAYO GROW.
CAN YOU GET CLOSER? I GOT TO WATCH JOE MAYO GROW AS A LEADER.
I GOT TO WATCH HIM THROUGH MULTIPLE DEPLOYMENTS.
HE WAS ALWAYS HARDWORKING, AND HE ALWAYS PUT THE WELFARE OF HIS SOLDIERS BEFORE HIMSELF.
I WASN'T THERE. I WAS IN BAGHDAD.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT WAS IT WAS VERY CHAOTIC.
THERE WAS MULTIPLE INSURGENCIES AND THEY WERE VERY ACTIVE.
AND WE WERE LOSING JUST ABOUT A SOLDIER A DAY.
NOW ALONG WITH THIS, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE PEOPLE WEREN'T SLEEPING.
IF YOU GOT 4 HOURS SLEEP AT NIGHT, THAT WAS A LOT.
AS A LEADER, YOU PROBABLY GOT LESS.
NOW I MENTIONED THAT THE POLITICAL SITUATION THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO HAD SHOT AT US AND TRIED TO KILL US AND TRIED TO KILL ALL SOLDIERS, WE'RE GETTING RELEASED SOMETIMES AS SOON AS 24 HOURS.
NOW I WANT YOU TO CONTRAST THAT WITH THIS THIS RESPONSIBILITY THAT WAS ON JOE MAYO'S SHOULDERS OF BRINGING SOMEBODYS SON OR FATHER OR HUSBAND.
THIS WAS A MISTAKE THAT CAME OUT OF SOMEBODY WHO WAS SCARED AND SLEEP DEPRIVED AND ANXIOUS AND WAS TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT PROBABLY JUST JUST COULDN'T BE CORRECTED.
ULTIMATELY THIS DECISION WAS WAS MADE IN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT SOLDIERS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DON PEARSALL, FOLLOWED BY BUTCHER IN.
I SPENT TWO HORRIFIC TOURS IN VIETNAM.
I'VE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH SEVERE PTSD.
I HAVE A CAREGIVER WITH ME TONIGHT BECAUSE THE VA FEELS I NEED ONE.
THE TWO TOURS I HAD IN VIETNAM, I WAS A DOOR GUNNER ON A ON A HUEY HELICOPTER GUNSHIP.
I WAS SHOT DOWN TWICE, ONCE EACH TOUR, FEBRUARY 18TH OF 68 DURING THE TET OFFENSIVE AND THEN AGAIN THE FOLLOWING YEAR ON NOVEMBER 2ND.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE HOSPITAL WHEN I GOT MY DIAGNOSIS FROM MENLO PARK, PTSD HOSPITAL IN CALIFORNIA SOMEWHERE OR WHEREVER IT IS, PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA.
THEY SAID, WELL, NORMALLY TO HAVE A PTSD RATING, YOU WOULD NEED SEVEN INCIDENTS OF WHAT HAPPENED.
I DON'T CONDONE A LOT OF THINGS THE MILITARY DOES OR WHAT OTHER SOLDIERS DO.
WHAT I SAW IN VIETNAM AT 19 YEARS OLD, AT 19, WHAT I SAW IN VIETNAM, I CAN UNDERSTAND.
WHAT GOES THROUGH A SOLDIER'S MIND.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT VERY, VERY VIVIDLY.
I REMEMBER THEM TELLING US LOW LEVEL OVER THE TREES TO DRAW ENEMY FIRE.
SO WE KNOW WHERE TO SEND OUR ARTILLERY.
THAT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD THING.
A LOT OF TIMES WE WOULD DO THINGS OVER THERE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY, OH, MY GOD, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? I REMEMBER OTHER AIRCRAFT WOULD TAKE VIET CONG PRISONERS.
AND ON THE WAY BACK TO THE CAMP, THEY WOULD TOSS ONE OUT OF THE HELICOPTER AT 800 FEET.
WHEN THEY DID THAT, THE OTHERS REALLY STARTED TALKING.
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WE HAD INTERPRETERS WITH US.THEY GAVE US TROOP LOCATIONS, TROOP SIZES, WHERE THEY WERE GOING, WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM.
IT WAS A WAY OF DOING THINGS BACK THEN.
WHEN I CAME HOME, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE NEEDED.
AT THE AIRPORT, THEY TOLD US NOT TO WEAR OUR CLASS UNIFORMS. I WAS PROUD OF MY UNIFORM, BUT COULDN'T WEAR IT.
AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE PUBLIC SENTIMENT WAS AGAINST THE VIETNAM SOLDIER.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WENT THROUGH HIS MIND.
AND I DON'T CONDONE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I ALSO SUPPORT MY MEDINA AND I FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GOT TO BE CORRECTED. THANK YOU.
PUT YOUR HAND TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE HERE IN PALM BAY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS HAD BEEN MOVED UP ON A SCHEDULE BECAUSE I WAS OUTSIDE WAITING TO GET IN.
I AM SO PROUD TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE WE HAVE A FREE PRESS, WHERE STORIES ARE PRESENTED.
THAT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL TO DECIDE FOR THEIR OWN.
BUT I DO. I DID WANT TO SAY THAT BEFORE I GOT STARTED.
IRAQ WAS A DIFFERENT WAR THAN WE HAD EVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH.
THERE WAS PEOPLE COMING BACK WITH NO LEGS, NO ARMS, NO ARMS AND LEGS.
THEY WERE EXPOSED TO THINGS THAT I WAS NEVER EXPOSED TO OR GENERATIONS NEVER WERE EXPOSED TO.
THEY MADE DECISIONS SOME GOOD, SOME BAD.
HE'S HAD 17 DEPLOYMENTS BETWEEN IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, NORTH AFRICA.
AND I HOPE EACH DAY, EACH TIME HE DEPLOYS, HE COMES BACK.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WE GO TO WAR AND WAR IS TO KILL PEOPLE.
THAT'S THE POINT OF A WAR TO BRING IT BACK.
A POLITICAL CHANGE BY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.
AND WE KIND OF FORGIVE OURSELVES FOR THAT, YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FRICKIN TOWNS AND VILLAGES AND STUFF WE BLEW UP, BUT WE KIND OF LOOK AT THAT.
BUT OUT AND OUT MURDER IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.
I FEEL FOR MR. MAYO. I HOPE HE GETS THE RELIEF AND THE SATISFACTION THAT HE NEEDS, BUT I STILL FEEL IT WAS A BAD DECISION TO HONOR HIM, ESPECIALLY ON THE 4TH OF JULY.
SO I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS TO MAKE THE POLITICAL DECISIONS.
AND I HOPE WE NEVER GET OURSELVES IN ANOTHER POSITION LIKE THAT.
AND I ADMIRE ALL YOU GUYS WERE SITTING ON COUNCIL.
COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANT TO.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FIRST BEFORE ANYTHING.
I'LL BE THAT, SIR. THAT'S ALL.
COPY THAT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR TO EVERYBODY ON THIS DIET AND THE PEOPLE IN ORDER TO WHY I'M MAKING THIS MOTION, MY MOTION ADOPT THE POLICY, THE FLAG POLICY, AND ALSO TO REQUEST.
THE CITY MANAGER REACHED OUT TO JOSEPH MAYO TO RETRIEVE OUR FLAG BACK.
THAT'S MY MOTION TO ADOPT THIS POLICY AND RETRIEVE OUR FLAG BACK.
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OUR SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.LET'S START WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX.
LATER YOU CALL ME? YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THEY YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WOULD ECHO COUNSEL AND FOSTER AND APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL THAT DECISION. IF YOU'RE OFFENDED BY BY THE MAYOR'S DECISION.
AND I SAY IT THAT WAY, MAYOR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I SAID IT BEFORE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A POOR DECISION.
WHAT I WOULD SAY AS WELL IS THAT THAT DECISION DOES NOT WAS NOT A DECISION OF COUNCIL.
IT WAS THE IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL DECISION THAT THE MAYOR TO PICK THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HE PICKED.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT WE'RE CLEAR.
THIS WASN'T THE DECISION THAT THE COUNCIL DID NOT DECIDE ON THIS INDIVIDUAL TO RECEIVE THE FLAG.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST SORT OF SAY SAVE TIME.
I HAD RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT OF OUR CITY AND ALSO IS A VETERAN STAFF SERGEANT MICHAEL KNIGHT.
AIR FORCE TWO TOWARDS INSIDE TO SOUTH ASIA, AND HE WAS HONORABLY DISCHARGED.
I WOULD ASK MRS. LEFT IF SHE WOULD READ HIS COMMENT HAD HE SENT ME A DIRECT EMAIL BEFORE THE PUT IT ON THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE EMAIL.
I WANTED TO COMMENT ON MAYOR MEDINA'S COMMENTS AND ACTIONS IN AN INTERVIEW WITH FLORIDA TODAY.
MAYOR MEDINA, YOU SAID REGARDING MR. MAYO THAT IT WASN'T A HOMICIDE IN A SENSE.
IT WAS SOLDIER DOING WHAT HE WAS TRAINED TO DO.
AND ALSO WE TRAIN OUR SOLDIERS, INFANTRY MEN IN PARTICULAR, TO KILL THE ENEMY.
YOUR COMMENTS ARE ONLY PARTIALLY TRUE.
YES, WE ARE TRAINED TO ELIMINATE THE ENEMY, BUT WE ARE NOT TRAINED TO MURDER PRISONERS OF WAR.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOUR COMMENTS DISCREDIT THE US MILITARY AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THIS IS NOT WHAT THE FLAG STANDS FOR.
I'M NOT CALLING YOU A BAD OR EVIL HUMAN BEING.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AS A VETERAN, YOUR COMMENTS AND ACTIONS STUNG PRETTY BAD.
AS A MARINE VET YOURSELF, YOU LIVE BY A CODE THAT INCLUDES HONOR, RESPECT AND INTEGRITY.
IF YOU HOLD THESE VALUES DEAR TO YOUR HEART, THEN WHY HAVE YOU HONORED ANOTHER WHO HAS TURNED THEIR BACK ON THAT CODE? I TRULY BELIEVE YOU OWE THE VETERANS OF PALM BAY AND AMERICA AN APOLOGY.
I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU AND ALL VETERANS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FULLER. IN ESSENCE, IN CONCLUSION, THAT WOULD EMBODIED EXACTLY MY SENTIMENT REGARDING THIS ISSUE, AND I WOULD PUT AN END TO MY COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
UM. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I'M A FEDERAL CONTRACTOR FOR THE VA FROM MIAMI TO TENNESSEE.
I GO AROUND TO DIFFERENT VAS AS A CYBERSECURITY ANALYST.
SO I WORK WITH VETERANS EVERY DAY AND I SEE THEM EVERY DAY.
THEY GET AGITATED, YOU FIND THEM IN A DARK HOLE, WHICH YOU HAVE A REAL AMOUNT OF.
SO, SO MUCH WE ALMOST SAW HERE TONIGHT.
AND SPEAKING WITH A PARTICULAR VETERAN.
ALL I ASK WAS WHERE HE WAS STATIONED.
HE GOT MORE DESCRIPTIVE. BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, I LOST HIM TO THE UNFORTUNATE EVENTS DURING HIS TOUR.
IT TOOK ME 45 MINUTES TO GUIDE HIM BACK TO THE PRESENT.
I'LL GO INTO MORE SCENARIOS I'VE HAD WITH VETERANS, BUT IT BRINGS ME TO A PLACE I DON'T WANT TO BE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WAR IS GRUESOME.
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OUR VETERANS HAVE TO DO AND SEE THINGS THAT NO MAN OR WOMAN SHOULD EVER EXPERIENCE.GULF WAR SYNDROME. PTSD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
AND SEEING A VETERAN GO THROUGH IT IS ONE OF THE SADDEST THINGS OF MY JOB.
SO I ASK WHAT PRECIPITATED THIS DISCUSSION? I KNOW OF ONLY ONE FLAG BEING PRESENTED AND THAT WAS BY MAYOR MEDINA.
IS THIS IS THIS COUNCIL QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF MY MAYOR, THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON EARTH? DOES THIS COUNCIL FEEL THAT WHAT THE MAYOR DID WAS INTENTIONAL? I PERSONALLY DO NOT.
AS I DECIDED MY OWN EXPERIENCES WITH VETERANS QUESTIONING OF VETERANS PAST.
AS I SAY, NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
THE MAYOR'S INTEGRITY CANNOT BE DISPUTED.
AND HE'S A KNOWN SERVANT LEADER WHO'S BEEN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
A VETERAN WHO ALSO SERVED OUR COUNTRY.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, RESPECTFULLY.
MY OPINION WILL REMAIN THE SAME ON THIS ISSUE.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE RULES OR REGULATIONS.
DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I'M NOT EVEN HERE TO BRING UP MR. MALE IN ANY SENSE OF FORM, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY PLACE.
BUT WHAT I AM HERE TO BRING UP IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
AND I DO NOT SEE THIS AS THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN STAFF HAS ALSO SHARED THEIR REGARDS TO NOT MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION OF AWARDING ON JULY 2ND. THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE I BROUGHT IDEAS TO STAFF AND I WANTED HONEST FEEDBACK AND THEY GAVE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AS WELL.
AND HERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY WHICH IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED FOR OUR CITY.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED FOR MR. MAYO. HE WAS LIVING COMFORTABLY HERE.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED FOR EVERYBODY.
AND ONCE AGAIN, HERE WE ARE ON SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.
WITH THE CRITERIA, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
I DO NOT SEE AN ISSUE WITH THE CRITERIA AT ALL BECAUSE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER ORDINANCE OR POLICY WE PUT IN PLACE, WE HAVE CRITERIA TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MET. 10,000 VETERANS IN PALM BAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SHARE THEIR STANCE ON IT, BUT.
THIS IS A PROCEDURE TO MAKE SURE WE HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.
THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. THIS IS A PROCEDURE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.
WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION UP HERE LIKE WE DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MAKES US GREAT.
WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
WE CAN HEAR FROM THE DIALOG FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
WE CAN HEAR FROM THE DIALOG ONE ANOTHER, WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE, THAT'S WHAT MAKES US GREAT.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES US THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A DUTY TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP.
KEEP OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL.
LIKE, HEY, LIKE, LET'S TIGHTEN UP.
LET'S WE'RE WE'RE ON THE SAME TRACK.
LET'S GET LET'S GET BACK FOCUSED.
SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT. I'LL WEIGH IN NOW.
AND AND I HONOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
I HONOR YOUR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR NATION.
I HONOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS ISSUE.
AND IT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION TO OFFEND YOU.
IT WAS NEVER ANYTHING BUT TRYING TO RESTORE AND SHOW COMPASSION TO SOMEONE THAT WAS OVERSEAS AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASKED OF THEM. HE CAME THROUGH NOT ONLY FOR THIS NATION, BUT FOR HIS BUDDIES.
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EVERYONE HAS A BREAKING POINT.IT MAY NOT BREAK SOMEONE ELSE.
WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT THRESHOLD, GENTLEMEN.
WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT THRESHOLD MAY BE.
AND WHEN I PRESENTED THAT, I PRESENTED IT FOR THE SERVICE OF WHAT HE DID ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
AND WHEN I SPOKE TO THE FLORIDA TODAY, I MENTIONED SLEEP DEPRIVATION.
I MENTIONED MULTIPLE DEPLOYMENTS.
IT WAS MORE OF AN ACCUSATORY REMARK TOWARDS A VETERAN.
WE NEED TO HAVE COMPASSION IF WE BELIEVE THAT PTSD CAUSES THE VICTIMS OR CASUALTIES OF WAR 22 PER DAY.
LET US RETHINK ABOUT GOING TO A MEMBER AND SAY.
THE CRITERIA IS ONE THING, BUT THE MOTION INCLUDES GIVE ME THAT FLAG BACK.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDED MOTION.
THAT'S NOT EVEN PART OF THIS AGENDA.
I BELIEVE THAT LIFE AND DEATH ARE IN THE POWER OF OUR TONGUE.
I CHOOSE TO SPEAK LIFE INTO THIS SITUATION.
I CHOOSE TO SPEAK LIFE INTO JOSEPH MAYO.
THERE IS NO COMPASSION IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT FLAG TO BE PLACED.
YES, I MADE A CHOICE BECAUSE I WANTED TO HONOR.
WHAT HE DID PRIOR TO THAT ACT, THE MEDALS HE RECEIVED.
AN HONORING THAT HE HAS SUFFERED FROM PTSD.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, HE WENT IN ONE WAY, AND HE'S COME OUT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON.
WE SPEAK OF COMPASSION HERE EARLIER TODAY.
GENTLEMEN, I DON'T SEE ANY COMPASSION TOWARDS THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL.
WHEN YOU WANT TO RETURN THE FLAG, WHEN THERE WAS NO CRITERIA, IT WAS AN OPTION FOR ME.
IN THE BRIG OR AT FORT LEAVENWORTH.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND.
WHAT IS AT RISK HERE? IT'S OKAY TO ATTACK ME.
BUT DON'T ATTACK THIS SOLDIER.
THIS IS ON ME. AND IF I DID OFFEND YOU.
REMIND YOURSELVES THAT IF YOU REMOVE THIS FLAG.
WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS CAN BE.
SOME ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU, MIRA.
BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT, I WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
EVERYBODY GETS TO SAY SOMETHING AND AND EXPLAIN WHY.
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IN THE MILITARY, WE FOLLOW ORDERS.WE TEACH YOU THAT IN BASIC TRAINING.
AND YOU COULD I DON'T WANT TO RELIVE WHAT MEL DID.
IF YOU CAPTURE A ENEMY COMBATANT.
AND I WOULD JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
I DID SERVE IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY AND MY MOS WAS MILITARY POLICE.
I'VE BEEN TRAINED ON WHAT TO DO WITH ENEMY COMBATANT.
YOU FOLLOW THE GENEVA CONVENTION? SO. YOU IN A FIREFIGHT.
YOU PUT THEM. YOU RESTRAIN THEM.
YOU POST A RETURN THEM TO YOUR BASE CAMP.
NOT TAKE HIM OUT. WHAT'S THAT PERSON GIVE UP? THE FIGHT IS OVER.
NO. I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL.
THEY MIGHT HAVE SHOT YOUR BUDDY.
BUT THERE'S RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
THERE'S THE GENEVA CONVENTION.
THERE'S YOUR MILITARY GENERAL ORDERS.
I DON'T THINK SO, BECAUSE THERE WAS A COURT MARTIAL.
THE MILITARY JUDICIAL SYSTEM DID NOT GET IT WRONG.
WELL, 90% OF COURT MARTIAL GETS CONVICTION.
THEY DON'T GET IT WRONG. THE JURY IS MILITARY PERSONNEL IN A COURT MARTIAL.
IT WAS HIS PLAN, ACCORDING TO THE NEWS REPORT.
AND HE'S STILL SERVING HIS TIME.
THE VA IS NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM MEDICAL TREATMENT.
HE MIGHT HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY.
HE HAS SERVED IN THE MILITARY.
HE WAS INJURED. I RESPECT ALL THAT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO ATTACK MR. MAYO. IT'S NOT ABOUT ME ATTACKING MR. MAYO. I HONOR EVERY.
I LOVE VETERANS. I LOVE THE MILITARY.
I WOULDN'T STAY IN IT FOR 28 YEARS.
I HAVE FAMILY THAT SERVED IN THE MILITARY.
BUT YOU DON'T GIVE THE MEDAL OF HONOR TO SOMEBODY.
YOU DON'T GIVE THE PURPLE HEART TO SOMEONE IF THEY'RE NOT INJURED OR THEY'RE NOT DESERVING.
YOU DON'T PUT A A YOU DON'T GIVE THE FAMILY MEMBER A FLAG.
EVERY VETERAN WHO'S GET BURIED GETS A FLAG.
THE REASON WHY WE NEED TO RETURN THAT FLAG.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT DESERVING AND THEY DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA.
WE CANNOT HONOR SOMEONE WHO COMMITTED A WAR CRIME.
WHO'S THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES? DISCHARGE HIM DISHONORABLE.
IF WE DON'T RETRIEVE A FLAG, THE PROGRAM IS NOT WORTH IT.
THAT THE MAYOR GAVE HIM A FLAG.
AND IT FELT THAT THERE WAS DISRESPECT AND DISHONOR.
SO HOW CAN WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM? TO GIVE ANOTHER VETERAN A FLAG WHEN THEY FEEL THAT THE PROGRAM BEEN GIVEN TO A A WAR CRIMINAL.
I MEAN, IF HIS CONGRESSMAN WANTS TO FLY A FLAG AND PUT THE PAPERWORK IN AND SEND IT TO THE US CAPITOL AND GET A FLAG PHONE, BUT I DON'T THINK THE US CAPITOL WOULD DO THAT.
WELL, SOMEBODY OF HIS STATURE.
SO IS ABOUT CRITERIA WHEN WE FLY A FLAG.
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YOU MET THIS CRITERIA.IT GIVES MEANING WHEN THE COUNCIL VOTE AND SAY YES, THIS COUNCIL SAYS YES, WE SHOULD FIRE A FLAG FOR YOU OVER THIS CITY HALL AND HONOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL VOTES ON THAT.
AND AND I'M NOT I BELIEVE HE LOVES VETERANS.
HE'S A VETERAN. I RESPECT HIS SERVICE.
I'M THE SAME WAY. I'M BUILT THIS WAY.
BUT WE HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THE MILITARY.
THE MILITARY JUDICIAL SYSTEM CONVICTED HIM AND SENT HIM TO LEAVENWORTH.
AND. WE? THIS WOULD GO ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE ARE HONORING A PERSON WHO DID SOMETHING.
AND IF HE NEEDS HELP, HE NEEDS TO GET HELP.
BUT THE VETERAN ADMINISTRATION IS NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO HIM BECAUSE HE'S THEY DON'T TREAT PEOPLE WHO DISHONORABLE WHOSE DISCHARGE AND GOT A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE. THE VA DOESN'T DO IT.
HE RECEIVED THE BAD CONDUCT DISCHARGE.
IT WAS UPGRADED. IT WAS UPGRADED TO HE GETS OFF PAROLE.
HE CAN'T GET HE CAN'T GET AT VETERANS SERVICE CENTER.
REGARDLESS OF YOUR DISCHARGE, YOU CAN GET YOU COULD GET COUNSELING IF YOU'RE A COMBAT VETERAN.
BUT HE WON'T. HE HE WON'T GET THE BENEFITS THAT I RECEIVE ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO NOT ONLY DOES I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE, MAYOR, IS THAT.
TO VETERANS WHO ACROSS THE NATION BY HONORING HIM AND NOT RECEIVING OUR FLAG BACK.
NOT ONLY THAT, WE'LL BE SENDING A WE'LL BE CREATING A BIG BULLSEYE ON PALM BAY WITH SOME EXTREMISTS THAT WANT TO GET REVENGE ON WHAT JUST TAKE PLACE.
YOU'VE GOT CRAZY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WILL USE THIS.
THE CITY. YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME? TRUST ME. THEY DIDN'T NEED TO.
IF SOMEBODY DID A SECURITY ANALYSIS OF WHAT HAPPENED.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOING ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THIS.
SO TO TO HONOR THIS PROGRAM AND GET IT STRAIGHT.
WE NEED TO GIVE UP, GET OUR FLIGHT BACK.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND THEN MOVE ON AND.
AND MOVE ON WITH THIS PROGRAM.
OKAY. SO I MADE THE MOTION I WANTED, LIKE I SAID.
IT. WE AGREE ON THE GUIDELINES.
WHEN WE FIRST CREATED THIS, WE DIDN'T DO A POLICY.
WE DID GUIDELINES, ALL THE GUIDELINES IN THIS POLICY, AND I ADDED CRITERIA.
IT WON'T BE NO CONTROVERSY AND IT GIVES SOME HONOR TO THIS PROGRAM.
OKAY. AND WE NEED TO GET OUR FLAG BACK BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS.
MONDAY. AND IF MR. MAYOR WAS LISTENING, HE WOULD DO THE RIGHT THING.
SO JUST JUST JUST I WANT TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
YOU MENTIONED THAT WHEN YOU RECEIVED THE PURPLE HEART.
THAT'S ON. MR. MAYO IS A PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT.
YOU'VE ALREADY MADE YOUR MOTION.
I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU WANT THE FLAG BACK.
IN YOUR MOTION, YOU SAID FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO RETRIEVE THE FLAG.
HAVE YOU AMEND THAT? SO THAT'D BE ME.
I'M THE ONE THAT PRESENTED IT.
I WANT TO BE THE ONE TO SPEAK TO HIM ABOUT IT.
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AMERI. CAN I SPEAK? YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID.WELL, FIRST, LET ME GO BACK TO THE PURPLE HEART, BUT I MEANT BY THE PURPLE HEART.
BUT NO DISRESPECT FOR PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT.
I SAID IF YOU DIDN'T GET INJURED IN THE MILITARY, YOU DON'T RECEIVE A PURPLE HEART.
YOU'RE NOT DESERVING OF THE PURPLE HEART OR ANY OTHER AWARDS.
BUT I CAN'T ORDER YOU TO DO ANYTHING, MAN.
OUT OF RESPECT, I CANNOT ORDER YOU.
I CAN'T DO THAT. BUT IF YOU WANT.
IF YOU WANT TO BE THE ONE TO MEET WITH HIM, JUST ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE THAT DISCRETION.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DIRECTED YOU DIRECTED HER TO TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM MYSELF.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO THIS? YES, I DO. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, SIR.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE COMBATIVE WITH YOU IN ANY WAY.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU DOING THAT.
BUT. I THINK OUT OF RESPECT, WE SHOULD GET THE FLY BACK.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT 9000 VETERANS IN THIS CITY.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU CHOOSING ANOTHER ONE? YOUR HONOR. SO YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR THIRD.
UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. YES, SIR, I UNDERSTAND.
AND IF YOU DO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. MAYO. PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY.
TELL THEM I'M NOT TAKING THIS PERSONAL AGAINST HIM.
PEOPLE MIGHT LAUGH, BUT IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.
AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ME, I'M ALWAYS.
UH. BUT I'M STILL AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE.
I'M STILL AGAINST THIS POLICY.
IN OTHER WORDS, MOVING FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE ONE ISSUE.
BUT TO GO RETRO, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER BALL GAME.
I'M CALLING THE QUESTION, MAYOR, BEFORE YOU CALL THE QUESTION.
THANK YOU, SIR. SO THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
UM, SO THIS THIS SHOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT EFFECTIVE DATE.
THAT DOESN'T. DID YOU HAVE ANY IN THE PIPELINE? COUNCILMAN FELIX. DO YOU HAVE ANY FLAGS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO ASSIGN? NO, NOT CURRENTLY THERE.
THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THE ONLY ONE IS COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
WELL, I'M MAKING THIS POLICY TO GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
SO WE SHOULD AT LEAST HONOR THAT.
WELL, ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THIS RECIPIENT.
YOU KNOW HIM? YOU'RE NOT SHARING ANY INFORMATION.
YES, YES. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT I DON'T HAVE HIS DUTY TO 214 ON HAND.
YOU'RE SAYING HE MEETS THIS CRITERIA? YES, SIR. OKAY.
GOOD. OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
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DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.I COUNCILMAN FOSTER I COUNCILMAN FELIX HIE COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO DE MAYOR MEDINA NAY. MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2.
WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
SMITH TO READ OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES.YES, SIR. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.
ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY DEGREE OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59.03 E 12 A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSE AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION OF THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
ORDINANCE 2022 AS 46 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING A ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM A YOU OF OUR COUNTY TO CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO EMERSON DRIVE IN THE VICINITY, EAST AND WEST OF, AND ADJACENT TO ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL ON A SAUNDERS WITH BFC CONSULTANTS.
IT'S OUR SECOND AND FINAL READING.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE PACKAGE BEFORE? WE'VE BEEN UP. I THINK THE SECOND TIME WE ARE SIMPLY REQUESTING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING TO GO ALONG WITH THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE.
IT CURRENTLY HAS AN AGRICULTURAL PLACEHOLDER ZONING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
OTHERWISE WE JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? UH, NO, SIR. JUST COMMENT. THE RESIDENTS HAD CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC ON HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THE RESIDENTS FEEL THAT THE NEW TRAFFIC STUDY IN THIS AREA, A LIGHT WILL BE WARRANTED.
I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS, NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL.
ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
OKAY. I'LL I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN THE MOTION.
MOST OF THEM APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 246 FINAL READING SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? CALL INTO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE RIGHT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WHEREIN ITEM NUMBER TWO.
MS. SMITH WHERE IT IS 2022 TO 61, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO OUR SEA RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO PALM BAY ROAD IN THE VICINITY EAST OF ATHENS.
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THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT'S THE APPLICANT TO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
THE OWNER IS HERE, MARGERY RIGGLE.
SHE'S THE TRUSTEE OF THE FAMILY TRUST.
YOU MAY RECALL SHE SPOKE TWO WEEKS AGO, THREE WEEKS AGO, REGARDING HER FAMILY OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROJECT AND WHAT THEY HAD DONE TO TRY TO SELL IT AND WHAT THEY HAD DONE TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.
ALSO HERE TONIGHT IS JIM TRAGER, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, JOSH BLACK, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER MR. RENFRO HAS COVERED.
WE ARE SEEKING THAT CHANGE IN ZONING.
THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.
YOU HEARD FROM VARIOUS PROFESSIONALS THREE WEEKS AGO, ALAN KING, HENRY MORIN, ABOUT THIS.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S NEW IS SINCE THE CHIEF OF POLICE DID BRING UP ISSUES, MR. RENFRO DID MEET WITH THE POLICE AND THEY'VE COME UP WITH A CPA.
SO THIS IS PART OF WHAT AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US A WHOLE SET OF THINGS THAT THEY RECOMMEND.
HE'S ALSO REACHED OUT AND GOT A PROPOSAL FROM ADT SECURITY AND IMPLANTS TO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS ALL AROUND THE THE FACILITY AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL TENANTS WILL PUT IN AUDIBLE ALARMS. SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT THE CONCEPT PLAN UP AGAIN.
I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER IT WELL, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS MATTER.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC, JOSH BLACK IS HERE.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I MEAN, OF MS..
THANK YOU. WE GOT SPEAK OF CARDS.
THANK YOU FOR. FOR HAVING THEM PARTNER WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF.
WHAT GREAT RESOLUTIONS REGARDING SECURITY.
CARRY ON, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
MY NAME IS HENRY MOORE AND I LIVE IN THE TURKEY CREEK SUBDIVISION.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IN PALM BAY SINCE 1979.
THE PIZZA HUT ON BABCOCK STREET IS THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT I EVER DID.
BUT I'M HERE MOSTLY TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY OF HOW THE R C ZONING CAME ABOUT, WHY IT WAS CREATED BACK IN THE 1990S.
AND AND THERE WERE A LOT OF VACANT LOTS.
AND I WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH DAVID WATKINS BACK THEN.
HE WAS HEAD OF DIRECTION, HEAD OF LAND DEVELOPMENT.
THE REASON THAT I DID WORK WITH DAVID WAS BECAUSE I HAD RECENTLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE WINN-DIXIE SHOPPING CENTER OF THE K-MART BACK THEN, AND I SAW THE POTENTIAL AND I BOUGHT UP A LOT OF THE VACANT LOTS ALONG THE MALABAR ROUTE.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AFTER THE ROAD WAS FOR LAND, MY FAMILY HAD ABOUT 45 LOTS.
NOW IT IS BECAUSE RC EXISTED THAT WE HAVE A FLORIDA ASSOCIATES THAT IS ON FIVE LOTS, FIVE DIFFERENT OWNERS.
IT HAS RESIDENTIAL BACKING UP RIGHT BEHIND IT.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THE RC ZONING THAT WE HAVE A BREWSTER'S ICE CREAM.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE A LONG DOGGERS ON MALABAR ROAD BECAUSE OF THE RC ZONING. SO THIS PROPERTY IS IDEALLY SUITED FOR COMMERCIAL USE AT THE RC LEVEL.
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THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS, IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS MORE INSULATED.THEN OUR RC ON MALABAR ROAD, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND WHERE THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO GO IS GOING TO HAVE A BLOCK WALL.
THIS PROJECT DOES NOT CREATE TRAFFIC THROUGH THEIR SUBDIVISION.
NOW ON MALABAR ROAD, ALL OF THE SITES THAT I HAVE.
SO THERE IS SOME IMPACT THAT MY PROJECTS WILL HAVE ON THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE IS NO IMPACT THAT'S GOING TO BE CAUSED.
FOR THESE CIRCUMSTANCES AS AT LEAST MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION.
AND ALSO ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY STATEMENTS? YES. THE APPLICANT'S BENT OVER BACKWARDS MEETING THE RESIDENTS DEMANDS WITH THE CUT IN THE MEDIAN LARGE WALLS AROUND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PRESERVATION OF WETLANDS, STORMWATER RETENTION ON THE PROPERTY. NOW EVEN THE SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS.
THESE ARE TYPES OF DEVELOPERS THAT I FEEL ARE PERFECT TO WORK WITH WITH PALM BAY.
I HOPE THEY CONTINUE TO WORK IN PALM BAY AS WELL, AND THEY'RE ALSO HIRING LOCAL FOLKS.
SO THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPER.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX ANYTHING? WELL, NOW, MY POSITION HASN'T CHANGED ON THIS ITEM.
OKAY, SO I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.
54. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD, IN THE VICINITY EAST OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND WEST OF MELBOURNE.
TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL EIGHT, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR FILING A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT. THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF BREVARD COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
HEY, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
IT'S. THANK YOU, JAKE WYSE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
WE WENT THROUGH A VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION PREVIOUSLY.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH THE FORMAL APPLICATION SINCE WE MET WITH COUNSEL BEFORE.
WE DID HAVE A PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING REVIEWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
WE ALSO HAD A LONG DETAILED PRESENTATION FOR THAT BOARD AS WELL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST MALABAR LAKES WEST SUBDIVISION, WHO I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW VERY WELL THROUGH CHAPARRAL AND OTHER PROJECTS.
WE HAVE A 130 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN US WITH THE MELBOURNE TILGHMAN CANAL AND WE EVEN MADE ALL OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT BACK UP TO THEM EXTRA DEEP SO THAT WE COULD PRESERVE AND BUFFER THE BEST WE COULD IN OUR PROPERTY.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T CONTROL MELBOURNE TILGHMAN.
THEY HAVE TWO CUL DE SACS THAT END AT THE CANAL.
AND WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY.
ANOTHER 16 ACRES OF IT IS APARTMENTS, WHICH IS ALSO TAXED THE SAME AS COMMERCIAL.
SO WITH THAT, SINCE IT'S GETTING LATE, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD FROM STAFF? NOT AT THIS TIME, SIR. THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM?
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YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A MOTION.ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ANYTHING. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
ALL RIGHT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AUDIENCE 2022 TO 69 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS.
SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEN THEY OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD THE TWO READINGS ON THE ANNEXATION AND THE COMP PLAN.
NOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT LAND USE WE'RE ASKING FOR GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED IN DETAIL.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN FELIX? ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS, MAYOR.
I UNDERSTAND ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE WAS CONTINUED.
MS.. SMITH OR IS 2020 270 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY? RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA.
AMENDING THE CODE OF ORTIZ'S TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION DD ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP I IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
COUNCIL. BRUCE MOIR WITH NB ENGINEERING, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT.
WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, THIS IS KIND OF A TWO PART REQUEST.
THIS FIRST ONE IS FOR A LAND USE AMENDMENT, AND THE FOLLOWING ITEM WILL BE FOR A REZONING.
THE ROAD DOES NOT CONTINUE THROUGH HERE.
WE HAVE A VERY GOOD MIX OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
SO KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.
IT IS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO WE'LL BE DOING STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
SO BASICALLY CONNECTING TO COLLECTOR ROADS TOGETHER, BRINGING UTILITIES, WATER AND SEWER DOWN GARVEY ALL THE WAY TO THE TO THE PROPERTY AND HOPEFULLY TYING IN AND LOOPING YOUR SYSTEM, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS REQUIRED AT 25%.
WE PROVIDING 34% LARGE LAKES AND ESPECIALLY A A LARGE 100 FOOT BUFFER OF THE VERY DENSE VEGETATION ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY BOUNDARY THAT SEPARATES THIS PROPERTY FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
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THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL.WE WANT TO BRING IT TO RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE RECENTLY LEARNED AFTER OUR CITIZENS PARTICIPATION PLAN MEETING AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, THAT THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST DOES HAVE SOME OBJECTION TO THIS PROJECT.
WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE OF THIS UNTIL EARLIER THIS WEEK AND WE HAVE MET WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THEM HAPPY AND NOT HAVE OBJECTION TO THIS PROJECT.
AND HE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND I'LL WAIT TO RESPOND TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY TO THIS BOARD.
BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
SO WITHOUT GOING INTO MORE DETAIL, I'LL JUST ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF.
DETERMINED ENEMY COMMENTS FROM STAFF ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD, SIR. SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
WE'RE NEXT TO THE FACILITY THERE THAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD ON.
GOT SOME HANDOUTS? THAT'S OKAY. COME ON AND GIVE THEM TO ME AND I'LL.
OTHERWISE A DO IF EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ADDING ON TO THE FACILITY.
SO WE WE WANT TO STAY THERE, OBVIOUSLY PUTTING MONEY INTO IT.
AND PALM BAY IS IS A FACILITY IS PART OF BHP'S INNOVATIVE STRATEGY.
WE PROVIDE OVER 60 HIGH PAYING JOBS, INCLUDING ENGINEERS, DESIGNERS, MODELERS AND TEST PILOTS.
WE OWN CURRENTLY OVER 100 AND EXCUSE ME, 850 ACRES IN PALM BAY.
THIS IS THE MAIN FACILITY IN PALM BAY AND IT'S BY THE LAKE KOGAN.
BRP REGULARLY TESTS MARINE PRODUCTS ON THE LAKE AND ATVS AROUND A FIVE MILE TRACK THAT'S AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE FIVE BUILDINGS, INCLUDING A DINO CONCEPT WORKSHOP AND A NEW AGAIN, THE NEW DESIGN AND INNOVATION CENTER THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING.
THIS REAL ESTATE PROJECT THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TODAY BRINGS IN TWO MAJOR CONCERNS TO BRP.
PROTOTYPES ARE BEING TESTED DAILY.
THIS REAL ESTATE PROJECT INCREASES THE RISK OF REVEALING INDUSTRIAL SECRETS.
THE OTHER THING IS OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WE'RE BACK THERE FAR ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE NOT NEXT TO US YET.
BUT THIS COULD BE A REALITY THAT THEY'RE GETTING GETTING CLOSE TO US.
BRP TESTS 5 TO 15 UNITS FROM 7 A.M.
TO MIDNIGHT ON WEEKDAYS AND 7 A.M.
WE MAKE A LOT OF NOISE, WE MAKE A LOT OF DUST AND RESULTS FROM OUR OFF ROAD VEHICLE TESTING.
I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF NOISE, SO REALLY DON'T WANT NEIGHBORS NEXT TO US.
MY COLLEAGUE, WHEN WE KEEP GOING.
SO BRP HAS ALREADY MADE AN EFFORT IN THE PAST TO CREATE THIS BUFFER ZONE WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS TO MINIMIZE THESE CONCERNS. THIS HAS BEEN YEARS BACK, PROBABLY 15 YEARS BACK ON PAGE FIVE.
NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTHEAST OF BRP IS NOW IS ALSO OWNED BY BRP.
WE BOUGHT UP A BUNCH OF THE LOTS TO GET THAT BUFFER ZONE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE 150 FEET.
WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT NUMBER ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS PRETTY CLOSE TO US.
BUT OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAVE 700 PEOPLE COMING IN, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.
THIS PROJECT IS, AS IS ANTICIPATED, WITHOUT A BUFFER ZONE.
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IT WOULD IMPACT BRP GREATLY AND COULD JEOPARDIZE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF PALM BAY LOCATION.SO AGAIN, BJP IS LOOKING FOR A WIN WIN SITUATION, RECOMMEND A PROPOSAL.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE THE BUFFER ZONE AS SHOWN ON PAGE SEVEN ON THE SOUTH EAST SIDE.
IT IS FROM THE SOUTHEAST SIDE, GOING UP HALFWAY UP THE LAKE, AS YOU SEE, AND COULD AND COULD POSSIBLY BE EXTENDED NORTHEAST SIDE AS WELL. THAT'S THE DOTTED LINE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE EARLIER.
OTHER IDEAS WOULD BE TO BUILD A 12 FOOT MOUND AND WE WOULD PROVIDE THE EXPENSES TO DO THAT AS WE HAVE ON OTHER CRP GROUNDS. ALSO, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATION ALONG THE 500 FEET BUFFER AND OR POSSIBLY PLANT VEGETATION THAT WE COULD PLANT THERE.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
I'M FROM CANADA, BUT I'M ESTABLISHED IN PALM BAY.
SO DAVID DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.
WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? MY ADDRESS IS 1175 RANSOM STREET IN PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. SO DAVID DID A GREAT JOB ON RESUMING WHAT WHAT WE HAVE AS AN IMPACT FOR FOR THAT PROJECT.
WE WANT TO KEEP INVESTING IN THIS FACILITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE SEE THE THE GROWTH, THE APPROACHING THE FACILITY AS WELL.
SO WE WE CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT HAVING A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD RELATIONSHIP.
SO EVERYTHING WE CAN COME UP WITH ANY, ANY, ANY WAY TO SOLVE THIS SITUATION.
WE ARE WE ARE READY TO TO PUT MONEY TO PUT TO PARTICIPATE, TO COLLABORATE.
SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR A WIN WIN SITUATION IN THIS CASE.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST.
WHEN GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, I LOOKED UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE INTER-GOVERNMENTAL.
IT STATES THERE WILL BE NO THERE WILL BE.
THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR SCHOOL.
BUT CONSIDERING ADJACENT SERVICE AREA, IT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS ME SHOULD, THAT PROBABLY MEANS THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO FAIL.
SO IS THAT IS THAT DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN SCHOOL, OR IS THAT DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF SURROUNDING VACANT SCATTER LOTS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO BUILD IN THIS AREA? SO AS I LOOKED THROUGH THE PACKET, I SAW NO NEW SCHOOLS OR PLANNED.
THIS IS 800 HOMES AND THEY SAY THAT.
THEY SAY THAT ONLY EQUALS 400 STUDENTS.
MOST FAMILIES I KNOW FOR EVERY FAMILY, THERE'S AT LEAST TWO.
AND IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, THERE'S 12.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IN THAT SAME REPORT, RECREATION SPACE VERSUS LOCAL SERVICE.
HOW MANY PARKS DO WE HAVE IN THIS AREA NOW? WE HAVE TO.
SO WE CAN BUILD OUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IS BASED ON ACREAGE.
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NUMBER SEVEN, TRANSPORTATION IMPACT.ALL CONSTRUCTION WILL HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN GAYNOR ROAD NOW, GARY.
THEY'LL HAVE TO GO DOWN GARVEY AND THEN OVER ONTO GAYNOR.
GAYNOR IS A LOCAL ROAD, IS NOT A COLLECTOR ROAD.
RIGHT. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE HISTORY, WHAT A SORE TOPIC THIS IS WITH ME.
GAINER WAS PREVIOUSLY BLOCKED TO LOCAL TRAFFIC.
NOW, HERE'S ONE MORE TIME WHERE THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE TRAVELED ON WITH MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING THE ZONING BASED ON WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS.
SO I WENT BACK, BILL BATTEN BEING THE PERSON HE IS.
THIS WAS WHICH WAS REZONE FROM AGRICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL AND 20.
IN 2005 2009, IT WAS CONVERTED TO INDUSTRIAL, 2010 HIGH INDUSTRIAL AND THEN NOW GOING FOR 2022 RURAL RESIDENTIAL. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN WITH THE SAME DEVELOPER, JUST DEPENDING ON WHO'S WILLING TO COME IN AND SPEND A BUCK.
RURAL, RESIDENTIAL, VACANT LAND.
IT'S NOT VACANT. THAT'S MY HOUSE TO THE WEST.
IT'S NOT VACANT. THAT'S BOMBARDIER COMMERCIAL.
THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY THERE WERE SOME VARIATIONS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? STEP FORWARD. OH.
I MADE A PROMISE TO YOU THE VERY FIRST TIME I SPOKE TO YOU.
I SAID I'D BE IMPECCABLE WITH MY WORD.
I WON'T JUST STEAL 3 MINUTES ANY CHANCE I GET.
BUT I HAVE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE AS.
BUT EVERYTHING I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS MY PERSONAL SENTIMENT FROM BEING A RESIDENT IN THIS CITY.
IT IS A HAZARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT IS A HAZARD TO THE SOCIO ECONOMIC OUTLOOK OF OUR CITY.
SO THE ENGINEER, MR. MOYA, BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT.
WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND WE LOOK AT THE COMPLETE SMORGASBORD OF OPTIONS THAT IT IS, IT REPRESENTS EVERY TYPE OF HOUSING ALL WITHIN ONE PROJECT. WHAT IT DOES IS BURIES THE APARTMENT, RENTING FOLKS IN THE VERY BACK OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT IT PUTS THOSE APARTMENT LIVING FOLKS OR THOSE OTHER MULTIFAMILY LIVING FOLKS, IT PUTS THEM TWO AND A HALF MILES AWAY FROM THE FIRST CLOSEST RESOURCE TO PURCHASE FOOD, THE MOST ESSENTIAL THING NEXT TO WATER FOR A HUMAN BEING.
SO, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I ASK YOU TO TRAVEL AROUND THIS CITY TO THE PLACES THAT WE DO HAVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
IT'S REFERRED TO IT'S MAYWOOD AVENUE.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE A LEFT OUT OF THERE AND HEAD BACK TOWARDS THIS CITY HALL, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NOT TRAFFIC, THERE'S PEDESTRIANS, BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES THERE AND THOSE FOLKS MAKE THEIR WAY TO THE CLOSEST PLACE THAT THEY CAN GET A PIECE OF FOOD.
THAT'S THE BEST THEY CAN DO FOR THEMSELVES.
WE ARE GOING TO PUT MULTIFAMILY AND DIVERSE HOUSING AND ALL OF THESE THINGS BACKED INTO AN INDUSTRIAL CORNER THAT'S ONLY CONSIDERED INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT MR. BATTON SAID.
IT'S TRULY AGRICULTURAL, BUT I AGREE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION BECAUSE OF BHP'S USE NEXT DOOR AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE CITY NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF LAND TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL. OUR COMMERCE REPRESENTATIVE SPOKE TO US EARLIER THIS EVENING ABOUT BRINGING IN MAYBE SOME LIGHT, MAYBE EVEN SOME HEAVY MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL USES.
WHAT BETTER AREA TO PUT AN INDUSTRIAL USE THAN OUT BY THE COMPOUND? OC WHAT WORSE AREA THAN OUT BY THE COMPOUND TO PUT APARTMENTS AND OTHER MULTIFAMILY LIVING IF THEY COME WITH A SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT, I'LL STILL THINK IT'S A HAZARD BECAUSE IT'S A FIRE HAZARD.
THE CLOSEST STATION IS GOING TO BE STATION SIX AND STATION SIX IS NOT A STATION.
IT'S A HALF A STATION AT BEST.
NOW YOU HAVE ALL THE PROJECTS GOING UP AND DOWN.
DEGROOT I'VE TALKED TO YOU IN THE PAST ABOUT JUPITER, THIS COMING TO GARVEY.
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COME AND SPEAK THE FORWARD, PLEASE.NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
I'D JUST LIKE TO DRAW A LITTLE BIT OF CONTRAST HERE.
SO FAR TONIGHT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 191 ACRE PARCEL FOR 850 LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF 750 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 200 TOWNHOMES AND 300 MULTIFAMILY LOTS.
AND AT THE END OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA, CONSIDERATION OF A MORATORIUM TO TEMPORARILY SUSPEND CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND DEVELOPMENT PERMITS FOR ANY LAND CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS OR PROPOSING A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL OR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SMALL QUOTE FROM THAT PLAN B CONTINUES TO GROW AT A RAPID RATE.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL HAS CONSIDERED A NUMBER OF REQUESTS FOR FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS, MOST OF WHICH ARE RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE, RESULTING IN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF NEW SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, PREDOMINANTLY LOCATED IN NORTHWEST MALABAR AND SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY AND SOUTHEAST BABCOCK STREET AND JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY.
QUADRANTS OF THE CITY PROVIDING A LARGE IMPACT TO TRAFFIC, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
BECAUSE THE END OF THIS AGENDA DOES NOT MATCH THE PARTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
IF WE'RE JUST FORGETTING BETWEEN PAGE 45 AND PAGE 250 OF THIS AGENDA IS VERY LONG.
BY THE WAY, IF WE'RE JUST FORGETTING WHAT OUR WHAT THE SPIRIT OF OUR WHAT OUR GOALS WERE.
OVER 20, WELL OVER 20 AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT.
PUTTING 300 OR SO ACRES OF REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT.
OVER TO AROUND 2000 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
IT'S GOOD. WE NEED TO GROW SMART.
NEITHER OF THESE ASPECTS OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA MATCH THAT NEED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? ON THIS ITEM. UH, MR. MOYER. ANY CLOSING REMARKS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I DID WANT TO START WITH TRAFFIC, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
IT WAS MENTIONED. UH, SEVERAL TIMES.
SO. THE PROPERTY HAS SOME HISTORY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
IT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED BACK IN 2004 FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS NEVER BUILT BECAUSE OF THE RECESSION HAS BEEN ZONED TO INDUSTRIAL.
NOW WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE.
SO CURRENTLY IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING IN LAND USE THAT THERE IS HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
WOULD GENERATE ALMOST 20,000 DAILY TRIPS ON THIS SITE.
THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WOULD ONLY GENERATE 6667 TRIPS.
AND WE'RE AND WE AT OUR OWN COST NO COST TO THE CITY.
PALM BAY WILL EXTEND A COLLECTIVE ROAD THAT WILL RUN FROM MALABAR ROAD TO BOMBARDIER.
THAT'S GOING TO OPEN A LOT OF ROADS AND CLEAR SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
BUILDING COLLECTIVE ROADS IS WHAT CURES TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. SO I THINK TRAFFIC IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE.
DO WE HAVE SOME MAYBE POSSIBLY SOME COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WITH OUR NEIGHBORS? WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THEM.
THIS IS ONLY THE VERY FIRST STEP IN MANY STEPS OF THIS PROJECT.
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SO DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF DAYS TO EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE HAD NO IDEA.THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE 100 FOOT BUFFER WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING DENSE VEGETATION BUFFER BETWEEN US AND THEM, AND THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 100 FOOT MELBOURNE TILMON CANAL BETWEEN US AND THEM AS WELL.
SO IT'S BASICALLY 200 FEET BETWEEN PROPERTIES.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES.
THEY HAVEN'T BOUGHT ALL THE LOTS THAT ARE SOUTH OF US THAT BOUGHT THEM DIRECTLY.
THERE'S PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THEM THAT ABUTS THEM THAT THEY DO NOT OWN.
SO. I THINK THAT THIS IS GOOD FOR THE AREA.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ALL TO THE EAST.
AND BRINGING THESE TYPES OF UNITS WILL ATTRACT THE COMMERCIAL TO SUPPORT IT.
YOU WILL START SEEING THOSE CORNER STORES, YOU'LL START SEEING SOME COMMERCIAL.
SO I THINK THIS IS THE CATALYST THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE AREA AS FAR AS BRINGING COMMERCIAL.
SO WE WILL BE VASTLY IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE SITUATION THERE.
AGRICULTURAL IS ONE OF THE WORST POLLUTERS OF STORMWATER THAT YOU CAN HAVE AS A USE.
WE'LL BE TAKING THAT OFF THE TABLE.
SO WE'LL BE REDUCING THE DRAINAGE IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE AREA.
SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING NEGATIVE FOR THIS.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBERS.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR? YES. HAD YOU NOT LOOKED AT POSSIBLY GOING FROM INDUSTRIAL USE TO MIXED USE? WE YEAH.
I MEAN, THE BORING COMMERCIAL OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT NOW.
THERE'S MY THING BEHIND IT BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN IT WHERE WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, MULTI-FAMILY OR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ONE AT THE SAME TIME OR PHASED IT IN AS WELL.
SO I DO AGREE WITH MR. OLSZEWSKI ON THIS.
SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN ON THIS ITEM.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF YOU ALL CONSIDER MIXED USE.
SO HAVE YOU CONSIDERED KEEPING IT INDUSTRIAL? NO, SIR. IT'S BEEN INDUSTRIAL FOR A LONG TIME AND NO ONE'S CONSIDERED DOING ANYTHING THERE.
YES. I'LL SAVE THAT FOR OUR DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2022 SEVEN.
THE FIRST READING. SEVEN ZERO.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND THERE IS NO SECOND.
I THINK I GOT A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN FELIX.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU MADE THE MOTION YOU WANT TO START.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST READING.
AM I CORRECT? NOW, NOW, NOW WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.
THAT LAND IS GOING TO SIT THERE.
IF WE DON'T DEVELOP IT, IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET NO TAX BASE OFF IT.
I CAME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATION FOR A WIN WIN SITUATION.
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I THINK. MR. MOYER. PROBABLY BE OPEN TO EXPLORING THEM.RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY CAN'T MAKE IT WORK.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
AGAIN, AS WE AND I DO AGREE WITH PRIOR COMMENTS AS FAR AS SMALL GROWTH, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING ACTIONS. AND WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THAT WE CAN DO BOTH.
WE CAN WE CAN TAKE ACTIONS BEING RESPONSIBLE AS A AS A GOVERNMENT BODY AND AND WITH SUPPORTIVE STAFF, PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE AS WE GROW TO CHECK AND BALANCE.
AND ALSO WE CAN CONTINUE GROWING AND DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
I DON'T SEE MUCH WRONG WRONG WITH THIS PROJECT.
I DO AGREE TO THE QUESTION COUNCIL AND DEPUTY MAYOR ASKED IN REGARDS OF MIXED USE AND OF COURSE IT IS AVAILABLE ON THE PHONE KIND OF IN PIECES OF THE FULL CONTEXT, BUT I WOULD SUPPORT IT AS PRESENTED.
OKAY. I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT WE WE HAVE ALL THIS FUTURE LAND USE OF IT BEING INDUSTRIAL.
I AGREE IT SHOULD STAY THE SAME.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WITH WITH COUNCIL'S INFORMATION, WE'VE SENT OUT LETTERS REGARDING INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING.
WE'VE SENT OUT LETTERS TO INCREASE OUR COMMERCIAL BASE, INCREASE OUR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE OF CREATING JOBS SO THAT PALM BAY ERS CAN LIVE, WORK AND PLAY RIGHT HERE IN THE BAY.
RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT GOES AWAY FROM THAT TO INCLUDE 800 HOMES IN THAT AREA.
AND AND I LOVE HOW THEY SAID THEY'RE PROTECTING THEIR THEIR SECRETS.
RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE IS CORPORATE ESPIONAGE AS AS WE ALL KNOW.
AND AND I THINK IT GOES A LONG WAY FOR US TO KEEP THAT COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL AT THAT POINT.
I'M A PROPONENT, AS MANY OF YOU HERE ARE, REGARDING COMMERCIAL AND AND INCREASING THAT.
NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ADDING OUR COMP PLAN, THESE INDUSTRIAL SITES.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW THIS IS ZONED PROPERLY.
AND I THINK TO NOT GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME THAT WAY.
BUT NOW WE'VE GOT PEOPLE MOVING IN.
AND AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER THIS AS THE POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW WHEN WE HAVE THAT ALREADY ZONED THE FUTURE LAND USE OF OF INDUSTRIAL.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT INITIATIVE FROM THE DEVELOPER.
PLUS, WE GOT THE COMPOUND RIGHT OUT THERE AND THERE'S ALMOST 100% GUARANTEED WHOEVER MOVES OUT OF THOSE 800 HOUSES ARE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO EXPLORE THE COMPOUND AND BE UP TO NO GOOD.
SO WITH A LOW POLICE FORCE, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FIRE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND OF COURSE, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CRP.
THEY'VE ALREADY EXPANDED A COUPLE OF THEIR BUILDINGS AROUND AROUND THEIR SITE.
I FEEL THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY EVEN BUY THIS SITE AS INDUSTRIAL WHEN THEY BUILD MORE.
SO I'M WITH YOU, MAYOR, ON KEEPING IT INDUSTRIAL, AND THAT'S THE REASONING FOR THAT.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN NOW? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN FELIX IN THE POINT.
WE CAN NAVIGATE GROWTH IN THE CITY AS WELL AS THE ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED LATER ON.
AND TO THAT POINT, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT.
THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST INDUSTRIAL PIECES THAT WE DO HAVE.
I AGREE WITH THAT. AND WE'RE ALMOST TO THE COMPLETION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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BUT I ASKED THE QUESTION ON MIXED USE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, SAY IT COMES DOWN TO IT AND NOTHING STILL COMES OF THIS IN THE FUTURE.LIKE I THINK MIXED USE WOULD BE A MORE SUITABLE AVENUE FOR US TO TAKE.
SO TO THAT POINT, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.
I'LL BE THAT. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
YOU. THE GENTLEMAN JUST HANDED THIS PACKAGE TO US.
THE SEVEN. HE SAYS BRP IS LOOKING FOR A WIN WIN.
IT SEEMED LIKE THIS COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR A LOSE LOSE.
IF THEY DON'T COME HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE CANNOT OPERATE BECAUSE WE CANNOT OPERATE ON AN ASSUMPTION, BECAUSE THE LAST PRIOR COUNCILS THAT SET UP HERE DIDN'T GROW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN 2008, WE HAD AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN.
AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HASN'T GROWN.
SO WE SHOULDN'T DEVELOP OUR CITY.
YOU KNOW THAT. I ALWAYS PREACH PUBLIC SAFETY.
BUILDING A COLLECTIVE ROAD FROM WAS A BOMBARDIER TO MALABAR.
I MEAN, IS THE CITY GOING TO PAY FOR THAT ROAD? I MEAN SO THE DEVELOPER WASN'T WILLING TO DO THAT AND AND MAKES USE OF HOUSING.
AM I CORRECT? THAT'S COMMERCIAL.
INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL, BUT WE'VE GOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE GOT TWO HOUSES.
WE GOT DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT OF OF OF RESIDENTS COULD BUY AND LIVE.
IF WE GET, WE COULD GET A ROAD BUILT AND WE HAVE A COMPANY.
I'M QUITE SURE MR. MOYER WILL WORK WITH THEM LOOKING FOR A WIN WIN.
THEY'RE NOT SAYING DON'T DO IT.
THEY'RE SAYING THESE RECOMMENDATION PROPOSAL IS A WIN WIN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS INDUSTRIAL LAND VACANT FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS OR SOMETHING.
WHO? THERE'S A CITY GOING TO GROW.
WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, IT'S GOING TO GROW.
IT'S SMART TO TO TO HAVE A COMMUNITY OF DEVELOPER WORK WITH A MANUFACTURER BUSINESS TO MAKE IT WORK.
NORMALLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT BE OUR.
ERP WILLING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO I WISH MY COLLEAGUES RECONSIDER THIS BECAUSE.
WE'RE WALKING AWAY FROM A ROAD THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT.
WE'RE WALKING AWAY FROM THE DIVERSE HOUSING.
WE'RE WALKING AWAY FROM A COMMERCIAL.
PIECE WAS COMPARTMENT APARTMENTS OF CURRENT CONCERN THAT'S TAXED DIFFERENT THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
AND WHO KNOWS? COMMERCIAL MIGHT. DEVELOP DOWN THE ROAD.
THIS IS HOW MANY SUPERMARKETS WE HAVE IN PALM BAY.
NOT MANY. WE NEED TO BRING THAT.
WE NEED TO REACH OUT AND BRING SUPERMARKETS IN.
UM. SHE WENT ON PALM BAY WROTE BRAVO AND THRIFTY.
IF YOU BUILD HOUSES, THEY WILL COME.
800 PEOPLE GOT TO EAT SOMEWHERE.
MAYBE IN RESTAURANTS IN PALM BAY.
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO PUT A NAIL IN A PIECE OF WOOD OR CONCRETE.
ANY RECESSION IN THE UNITED STATES.
YOU DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE GAS PRICES.
SO WE'RE GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM JOBS.
WE'RE GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM TAX BASE.
WE'RE GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM COMMERCIAL.
WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE A A LOT THERE VACANT FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE BRP WILLING TO WORK WITH US, WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE IT WORK.
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SO. IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WALKING AWAY FROM.ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? THE UNION. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR I.
HEY, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? JUST FOR THE RECORD? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ORDINANCE 2020 271 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM R.C. RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF MALABAR ROAD IN THE VICINITY EAST OF GREENBRIAR AVENUE, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HER IN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE COUNCIL.
MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 200 WILLARD STREET IN COCOA.
I REPRESENT THE O'BRIENS WHO OWN HALF OF THE PROPERTY.
AND MR. DAVIS, OF COURSE, OWNS THE OTHER HALF.
I WAS CHARGED WITH FINDING A LOCATION FOR SLUG ABAD PEST CONTROL.
MR. STEVE ALLEN, THEIR PRESIDENT, IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
AND HE WILL ALSO MAKE ANY KIND OF MAKE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS OR MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND ALSO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS HERE IN A MINUTE. BUT IF YOU'VE SEEN THEIR LOCATION ON US ONE IN NORTH MELBOURNE, THEY ARE A MAJOR PEST CONTROL COMPANY IN BREVARD COUNTY, BUT THEY'RE OUTGROWING THEIR FACILITY AND THE MY CHARGE WAS TO FIND THEM A LOCATION TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND INTO SOUTH BREVARD.
THAT'S PUTTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE THAT ARE NOW, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE VERY LITTLE CHANGE TO IT.
IT'S GOING TO REMAIN ESSENTIALLY IT'S NOW AN ELECTRICAL COMPANY.
IT'S GOING TO JUST BECOME A PEST CONTROL COMPANY.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT YOUR CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS OUR SEE, DOES NOT ALLOW SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS PEST CONTROL COMPANIES FOR SOME REASON IN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF.
THEY HAVE BASICALLY SHOWED US THAT THIS MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO TO A GENERAL, A GC, AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE GC ON THE WEST SIDE OF I-95.
SO AS FAR AS NUMBER EIGHT GOES, WE'RE ASKING THAT WE CHANGE THE ZONING FROM RC TO CC.
THERE IS OTHER CC ZONING JUST DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE STREET ON THE CORNER OF GARVEY THAT IS ALREADY THERE. SO WE DON'T THINK WE'RE IN THE UNDERLYING FUTURE.
LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL ON THIS ENTIRE CORNER ALL THE WAY UP TO GREENBRIER.
SO THAT IS OUR REQUEST ON NUMBER EIGHT.
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THE CC ZONING.SO IF THAT MAKES SENSE, IF I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT THE BEST I CAN, BUT WE'RE.
THE FIRST ITEM IS NUMBER EIGHT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CHANGE FROM RC TO CC.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, ELSA NELSON AND FELIX? ARE YOU GOOD? AND THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD ASK IN TERMS OF I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEST CONTROL PRODUCTS AND SO ON.
HOW WOULD THAT? IN FACT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A REASON WHY HE'S PROHIBITED FROM THE RC, I GUESS SHOULD WE SHOULD DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD.
NOW A PEST CONTROL COMPANY MIXING WITH REGULAR RESIDENTIAL SOMEWHAT WOULD IMPACT THE THE AREA.
I WISH MR. FELIX WAS HERE BECAUSE HE'D BE ABLE TO SEE THE SEE THE MAP.
WE HAD A OUR MEETING WITH THE LOCAL RESIDENTS WAS ON JUNE 28 OR SORRY, MAY 20 OR MAY 28TH.
AND ONLY TWO PEOPLE SHOWED UP, ONE OF WHICH WAS ANOTHER NEIGHBOR SAYING, OH, I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MY ZONING TO HOW DO I GO ABOUT IT? AND THE OTHER ONE WAS WAS A NEIGHBOR WHO HAD A LEGITIMATE CONCERN ABOUT THEY LIVED ACROSS THE CANAL AND THE SUBDIVISION, AND THEY HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT PEST CONTROL AND FUMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE ASTHMA.
WELL, AFTER SPEAKING TO MR. LUM AND HIS HIS PEOPLE, THEY WERE SATISFIED AND DIDN'T EVEN COME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARING.
IN ADDITION, WE WENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING HAD A TOTAL HEARING.
I THINK THE ONLY PERSON THAT SPOKE WAS HERE FOR ANOTHER ISSUE.
MR.. AND HE DID NOT SPEAK AGAINST IT.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
PLANNING AND ZONING FIVE TO NOTHING.
TO PLEASE SPEAK ON THE MIXER? YES, PLEASE. SOMETHING TO JUST INTERJECT WHAT MR. LUM TOLD. TOLD THE CUSTOMER TO THESE CHEMICALS THAT HE'S USING THERE IN WALMART.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN IN THE CHEMICAL WAL MART, HOME DEPOT.
YOU KNOW, HIS HIS PRODUCTS ARE ALL SAFE PRODUCTS AND AND READILY AVAILABLE.
SO YOU'LL BE STORING THOSE CHEMICALS ON THE PREMISES OR YOU'LL BE STORING THEM IN THE TRUCKS THAT WELL, THERE'LL BE SOME IN THE BUILDING, THEY'LL HAVE A STORAGE BUILDING ON THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY OUT OF THE VIEW FROM THE ROAD.
WELL, THE OTHER THING, TOO, THAT'S INTERESTING.
OF COURSE, ANY GOOD BUSINESSMAN WANTS TO KNOW WHERE HIS COMPETITION IS.
SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE CHEMICALS RIGHT IN THE GARAGES NEXT DOOR TO YOUR YOUR NEIGHBOR COULD HAVE THE SAME CHEMICALS RIGHT IN HIS GARAGE. SIR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
NO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I'M JUST HAPPY YOU ALL CHOSE PALM BAY TO BE HERE.
SLUGGER BOGGS, WELL RESPECTED NAME IN THE INDUSTRY AND CHOOSING PALM BAY.
SO I'LL GO WITH IT. GO. THANK YOU, SIR.
JEFFREY MARINER, YOU SPEAK OF CARDS ON THIS.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.
MOST OF THE PROOF ON IT'S 2022 DASH 71 FIRST READING SECOND.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
CONGRATULATIONS, MR. LIM. ITEM NINE OK NINE.
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MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 200 WHEELER STREET.OH, I'M SORRY. YOU GOT TO READ IT IN SECOND.
YES, SIR. SORRY, MADAM SMITH, AS YOU WERE.
OR BRIAN OR IT IS 20, 22, 72, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PEST CONTROL BUSINESSES AS A CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS MIKE SEELIG, 200 WILLARD STREET.
NORTHWEST. PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO CHANGE.
ASK FOR A CHANGE TO YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES ALLOWING FOR CC FOR PEST CONTROL TO BE IN A CC ZONING CLASS AS A CONDITIONAL USE, WHICH MEANS THAT JUST BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS CC, IT ISN'T AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO BE YOU'LL GET ANOTHER SHOT.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME IN AND GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SOME OTHER LOCATION, THAT ZONE CC.
SO THINK YOU CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, MR. FOLSOM. YES, SIR.
THESE PEST CONTROL IS A FLAMMABLE.
BOY. OH, BOY. COULD I ASK MR. LUM TO ANSWER THAT? COME UP TO THE LECTERN, SIR, AND.
AND OUR AND OUR FERTILIZERS THAT WE USE, WE WILL NOT.
YOU CAN'T BLOW ANYTHING UP WITH THEM.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE PRODUCTS TO DO THAT.
SO IF IF I COULD JUST EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON MR. FELIX'S QUESTIONS AS WELL, SO HOW WOULD WE HOW WOULD WE MELD WITH THE COMMUNITY? AND I'LL DO THIS RIGHT OR NOT.
OKAY. SO THAT IS OUR AS OUR CURRENT FACILITY IN IN MELBOURNE.
IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY BEHIND US WITHOUT REGARD TO PRODUCTS.
SO CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR PLANS TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
WHEN THE TIME COMES AND WE'LL GO BACK.
IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK, GO BACK AND IT'S HARD TO SEE THERE, BUT BASICALLY THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING ON THIS PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY WOULD BE MOST LIKELY A PERMEABLE PARKING LOT.
THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO TRY TO MOVE IS WE HAVE TOO MANY VEHICLES AT OUR LOT RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. WE'RE ARE GROWING.
AND SO OUR GREATEST NEED RIGHT NOW IS FOR PARKING.
WE ALSO WANT TO USE THE BUILDING.
IT WILL EITHER BE IT WILL BE USED MORE AS A AS A BRANCH, AS A STATION.
IMMEDIATE PLANS ARE NOT TO TO PUT PRODUCTS IN IF THEY WERE TO BE PUT IN.
WE ARE WE ARE GOVERNED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES.
WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS.
AND SO WE WE ARE WE ARE VERY WELL GOVERNED AND VERY WELL REGULATED.
WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
SO WITH REGARD TO SAFETY AND PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK US, ARE WE SAFE OR THE PRODUCT SAFE? AND WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS THAT WE WE CANNOT SAY THE WORD SAFE OR WE CAN TELL PEOPLE THAT IF PRODUCTS ARE USED AS PER LABEL, THEY THEY POSE NO INCREASED RISK.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T WE DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE ANYTHING IS SAFE.
WITH REGARD TO PRODUCTS WE HAVE, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES.
THERE'S DANGER, WHICH WOULD BE PRODUCTS LIKE BLEACH.
THERE IS WARNING AND THAT'S RESTRICTED USE.
CAUTION IS THE LOWEST LEVEL AND IS THE ONLY LEVEL THAT WE USE.
WE DON'T USE DANGER, WARNING AND USE CAUTION.
WE DO HAVE LARGER VEHICLES AND WE PREFER TO STORE THEM.
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SO WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL RUN BUSINESS.WHAT I WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT IS WITH REGARD TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO CURRENTLY 35% OF OUR EMPLOYEES LIVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE DO. CURRENTLY, 16% OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE HERE AT 13% OF OUR ACTUAL REVENUE.
AND AS YOU SAY, PALM BAY IS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET.
AND SO WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
SO HERE'S ANOTHER COMMISSIONER.
COUNCILMAN FELIX WAS HERE. YOU COULD SEE AS WELL.
SO WE HOOK UP WITH COMMUNITY IN MANY, MANY WAYS.
SO CURRENTLY WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER OUR NOT AN IMPACT BUT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS BOTH THESE ARE ACTUAL DOLLAR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PRO BONO SERVICES AND THEN EVENT SPONSORSHIPS CURRENTLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT $50,000 A YEAR.
AND I WANT TO INCREASE THAT, ESPECIALLY ON THE PRO BONO SPONSORSHIPS.
SO WE WE SUPPORT MANY ORGANIZATIONS.
THERE'S A FEW OF THEM NEIGHBOR UP NEW LIFE MISSION BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS, THE ROCKLAND BREWERY, THE NATIONAL VETERANS, HOMELESS SUPPORT AND HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
SO BASICALLY, WE'RE A COMPANY THAT WANTS TO BE MORE THAN JUST THE COMPANY WE ARE.
PEOPLE IS WHO WE ARE, PEOPLE, RELATIONSHIPS, WE ARE QUALITY PRO CERTIFIED, WHICH IS A NATIONAL DESIGNATION WHICH INVOLVES SAFETY, INVOLVES PROFESSIONALISM. ENGAGE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA AT THE HOUSE, AS YOU'VE SEEN US THERE.
WE WE CURRENTLY HAVE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS A STEWARDSHIP.
AND THEN AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM SO THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER FOOTPRINT PROFILE.
AND SO THOSE ARE PAID COMMERCIALS AS WELL AS THE CSAS WHERE YOU'RE AT THE SPOIL ISLAND OUT IN THE.
WHICH NUMBER IT IS RIGHT DOWN THE RIVER.
RIGHT. AND SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A CLEAN UP AND WE'VE WE'VE ADOPTED THAT ISLAND.
AND SO WE WE GO OUT THERE QUARTERLY TO CLEAN THAT UP.
WE DO PRO SERVICES FOR THE NEVADA ZOO.
WE HAVE A SOFTBALL TEAM FOR THE WE HAD A SOFTBALL GUYS IN HERE.
AND SO WE HAVE AN AWARD WINNING SOFTBALL TEAM THAT WE SPONSOR.
WE SUPPORT THE SPACE COAST DERBY DAY.
PALM BAY IS ANNUAL FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA ACROSS FROM HIS YOUTH SERVICES.
I BELIEVE THAT, AGAIN, IT IS JUST WHAT WE JUST WHAT WE DO.
BUT ENHANCING THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDING VALUE.
AND THAT WILL END OUR LITTLE VIDEO.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I WANT TO INTERJECT ONE THING TO.
SO BELIEVE ME, IF I AGREE, IT GOT USED LAST WEEK.
I CAUGHT I CAUGHT THE CONNEX BOX ON FIRE.
SIR, CAN I CARRY ON? I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
HOW MANY TIMES MELBOURNE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO YOUR LOCATION? NEVER. WE HAVE NEVER.
WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 40 YEARS AS OF AUGUST.
THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HEAR HOW MANY CARS WILL BE TRAVELING TO THIS LOCATION.
WELL, FOR THE MOMENT, MAYBE 8 TO 15, EIGHT TO 8 TO 20 AT THE MOST, BASICALLY.
AND SOME OF THOSE WILL BE INTERCHANGED, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR LAWN VEHICLES.
WE HOPE TO BUILD ON IT IN THE FUTURE AS PER PLANNING AND ZONING AND AS PER THE CITY'S PERMISSION.
AND ON MY WAY HERE, I JUST HAPPENED TO GLANCE AT IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM TO GET IN AND GET OUT OF THAT LOCATION.
MY DRIVEWAY THAT SAID HE MADE.
WE MAKE WE MADE THAT THAT CULVERT CROSSING AND AND BRIDGE.
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YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE MIC? IT WAS WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY.WE HAD TO. WE ORIGINALLY HAD AN OLD METAL CULVERT THAT WAS IN THERE.
AND BEFORE WE CLOSED ON THE WHOLE PROPERTY, DAMN THING COLLAPSED.
AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I CAME UP TO WE HAD TO CHANGE IT AND WE CHANGED THAT.
WE PUT WE PUT, I THINK 48 INCH PIPE SITTING THERE.
AND THEN WE RAN OUR FIRE HYDRANT MAIN, OUR FIRE MAIN ACROSS THERE.
AND IT'S ALL MARKED WITH THE PROPER ROAD MARKINGS AND ALL SO THAT THE BIKE TRAFFIC DOES NOT IMPACT THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC WITH THE NOISE OF THE YOU SAID 8 TO 15 CARS, VEHICLES, WE CALL THEM CARS, BUT THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF NOISE WOULD BE A LOT OF NOISE THAT JUST BECAUSE TO THE ONE SIDE IS NUMBER WOODS I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THERE'S THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF.
AT LEAST THAT CANAL THAT SEPARATES.
YES. LET ME GO AHEAD AND MOVE BACK AGAIN.
AND WE'VE WE'VE OPERATED COUNCILMAN FOSTER WE'VE WE'VE HAD 45 THE MIXER.
WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S THAT'S LISTENING.
AND BY THE WAY, HE DOES HAVE THE SAME PRESENTATION ON HIS LAPTOP.
HE DOES AS WELL. SO PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MIC.
YEAH. THE THE AS FAR AS THE THE IN AND OUT, WE'VE HAD COMMERCIAL TRUCKS IN THERE AND FREIGHT TRUCKS. NEVER A PROBLEM THAT NEVER ROB GET CLOSER.
HE'S GOT HE'S GOT TO BE LISTENING TO YOU.
IF YOU IF YOU GOT IN YOUR GRACIOUS TO FOUR LANE THAT ROAD ANY TIME SOON, YOU'D BE REALLY A GOOD GUY.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
IT WAS A NICE PRESENTATION. THAT REALLY WAS, MA'AM.
I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, BUT I WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE THANK YOU.
AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH READ THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I'M AN ORDAINED MINISTER AND I VOLUNTEER AT THE HOUSE CHURCH.
AND THERE'S A TEAM THAT I OVERSEE THAT HANDLES THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.
AND I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT NOW.
I DON'T GET ANY FINANCIAL BLESSINGS OVER THIS, BUT THIS BUSINESS HAS SPONSORED IN THE PAST AND SO HASN'T BEEN ALL 14 YEARS.
BUT THERE'S BEEN A FEW YEARS WHERE THIS BUSINESS HAS SPONSORED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO LIGHT AND I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP AT THE THE LAST.
BUT I WANTED TO ASK THE THE CITY ATTORNEY, SHOULD I HAVE ABSTAINED MY VOTE ON THIS? NO. NOT ONLY SHOULD YOU NOT HAVE, YOU CAN'T.
I MEAN, AS YOU JUST ACTUALLY STATED, SIR, YOU HAVE NO PECUNIARY INTEREST IN THIS.
YOU'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY COMPENSATION FROM ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE DONE.
AS FAR AS WITH THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, YOU'RE NOT EMPLOYED.
YOU YOU DON'T I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN BETWEEN YOU AND THIS COMPANY, SO.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD BECAUSE I.
I JUST SAID, OH, MY GOSH, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT.
SO THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE.
CARRY ON. ARE YOU COMPLETED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR? I THINK WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY WELL DONE.
WE'D JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL LOOK AT OUR APPLICATION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AFTER IT'S ALLOWED.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE. CNN.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASKING FOR EMOTION.
MOST SHOULD APPROVE WHEN IT'S 2022.
DASH 72 FIRST READING, NOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY SECOND GOT A SECOND BY.
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COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? MARY, IF I MAY. YES.CARRY ON. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR, FOR CLARIFYING THAT I GOT ACCESS TO THE THE IMAGE, THE SCENE, THE PLAN.
AND IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IN TERMS OF THE OFFERS ON THE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND AND THE LEFT SIDE, ACTUALLY.
I LIKE THE PROJECT. OF COURSE, THEY WILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
WE WE WELCOME BUSINESSES TO COME TO OUR CITY.
LOOKING AT THE PLAN, THE LAYOUT, I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING OUR BUSINESS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
A LARGE PERCENTAGE, MAYBE ONE THIRD OF YOUR CURRENT STAFF CURRENTLY LIVE IN PALM BAY.
NOW, IS WOULD THIS PROJECT BRING ADDITIONAL JOBS MORE SO FOR THE CITIZENS? I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED BEFORE WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT IN THE RECORD.
OKAY, I'M APPROVING THIS COMPANY.
YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE RIGHT NOW CHAPTER FIVE TO ALLOW AS.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND I'VE GOT A SECOND THOUGHT ALREADY.
SIR, WE'RE REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY OF CREATING JOBS HERE.
WE'RE REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT HERE IN IN PALM BAY.
SO, MR. LUM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEVOTION TO THIS CITY AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN ORSON.
YEAH. ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE CHANGING RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO COMMERCIAL USE.
I MEAN. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
THE LAST ITEM THAT WE DISAPPROVED, WE COULD WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU GOT TO YOU'VE GOT TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, PEST CONTROL COMPANY, RESPECTABLE PEST COMPANY.
IT'S ALL. THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN STRIKING COMMERCIAL NEWS.
IT IS REASONABLE. THEIR POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE.
NO, BUT IT'S EVEN FORCED KIND OF OFFENSE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE IT.
AND IT CAN BE RESOLVED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING IS UP IN THE AIR.
WE'RE DISCUSSING AMONG OURSELVES.
WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
THIS IS I'M FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT I'M SAYING WHEN WE GO FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, THINK ABOUT WALKING IN CHEWING GUM AT THE SAME TIME. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WHEN WE APPROVED THIS PROJECT, THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ORDINANCE 2022 TO 73, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA.
AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
CHAPTER 169 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MISS SHERMAN. OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST REFER TO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AS HE LED US TO THIS MOMENT.
AND I'LL BE BRIEF AND I'LL LET STAFF SPEAK AS WELL.
SO THIS IS A TWO PART ORDINANCE.
AND TO ME, THIS IS A COMMUNITY ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT IS COMMUNITY DRIVEN.
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FIRST PART IS THAT MEANT ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE.TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THIS COUNCIL AND COUNCILS PRIOR TO AND COUNCILS PRIOR TO THAT HAVE HAD TO DETERMINE WITH SETBACKS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PUT PULL IN, POOLS IN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THESE RESIDENTS HAVE TO SIT 3 HOURS, 4 HOURS.
YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S THE FIRST PIECE OF IT.
SO WE'LL STILL BE IN THE KNOW ON EVERYTHING.
IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE HE'S PASSED, BUT MR. LARRY BRADLEY WAS THE ONE WHO REALLY WAS HELPING ME WITH THIS.
SO DEFINITELY CONDOLENCES STILL TO HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
AND I'LL SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT DURING COUNCIL REPORTS.
BUT HE WAS WORKING WITH ME ON THIS AS WELL AS THE REST OF STAFF.
BECAUSE BACK IN 2019, WHEN I WAS FIRST LOOKING AT DOING INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATORS CHANGED IT WHERE YOU CAN'T DO MANDATORY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING AND IF YOU DO, THEN THE CITY HAS TO COVER THE COST ON THAT MANDATORY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING.
SO I LOOKED AT WHAT'S THE NEXT BEST OPTION, AND THAT WAS VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, WHERE YOU CAN ADD DENSITY BONUSES AND SET BACK INCENTIVES INSTEAD OF MANDATING AS A WAY TO INCREASE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR MARKET.
SO I SAW A PROBLEM AND I LOOKED AND SEARCH HARD FOR A SOLUTION.
AND THIS WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE WHERE I THOUGHT MANDATORY WAS THE BEST ROUTE.
BUT SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS ITEM AND DEFINITELY A BIG SHOUT OUT TO MR. BRADLEY FOR HELPING OUT.
IS THIS WHAT YOU AND JEFF BAILEY WERE BOTH WORKING ON AS WELL WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES? VARIANCES, YES. OKAY.
AND THEN YOU CULTIVATED IT, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND PART OF IT.
AND SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON YOUR HARD WORK.
BUT YEAH, I REMEMBER THE ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES BACK WHEN COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS ON COUNCIL.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IN ONE MOTION APPROVED ONE ITS 2022 DASH 73 FIRST READING.
IT'S NOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THE SECOND. SICKENED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
YEAH. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES, SIR. CARRY ON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION HERE FOR STAFF.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE VARIANCES OF STAFF.
I KNOW WE APPROVE THESE VARIANCES 99% OF THIS TIME.
SHERMAN THIS AND SEE IF SHE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH IT.
BUT INSTEAD OF GIVING IT GIVING IT TO STAFF, CAN WE PUT THESE VARIANCES ON CONSENT AGENDA? UM, I ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS THAT PROCEDURALLY, AND I BELIEVE SHE HAS A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS REALLY DEALS WITH THE DIFFERENCE IN PROCEDURES AS FAR AS WHEN WE TAKE IT BACK AND YOU HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH WHAT'S AN EXECUTIVE APPROVAL.
WHEN COUNSEL GETS INVOLVED, COUNSEL'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.
IF COUNCIL WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN A COUNCIL, DOES IT IN A DIFFERENT FASHION AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT RULES THAT APPLY AND THERE IS DIFFERENT STANDARDS AS FAR AS WHAT HAS TO OCCUR AND EVEN THE APPELLATE RIGHTS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, EXECUTIVE PERSON APPEALS IT TO COUNCIL, SO COUNCIL
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CONSIDERS IT QUASI JUDICIAL.THAT APPEAL THEN IS A JURY APPEAL.
BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT COUNCIL INVOLVED AND YOU ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A HEARING, SO THERE'S SOME ISSUES AS FAR AS DUE PROCESS AND IT'S ALSO UNCLEAR EXACTLY WHERE THIS GOES.
DO YOU YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO END UP AS CERTIORARI, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT AS FAR AS FINALITY.
IF YOU THINK I KNOW, PROBABLY HEARD FROM BEING AT SOME OF THE MEETINGS AND I KNOW THE REST OF COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE OF THE FAR TOO PROJECT THAT'S STILL GOING ON.
I FILED THE BRIEFS, YOU KNOW, HAD ORAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S OVER THAT DIDN'T OVER PROCESS CONTINUES AND IT'S WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE IN DECEMBER THAT WE MAY BRING IT TO TRIAL.
BUT ANY TIME YOU GET, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLEAR PATH AND YOU END UP IN DE NOVO, WHAT YOU END UP DOING IS BRINGING A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AND THEY DE NOVO MEANING THEY START OVER. IT'S NOT THAT THEY JUST CONSIDER WHAT THE EVIDENCE IS HERE.
AND THAT WAS BEFORE MAYBE COUNCIL WAS BEFORE P AND Z.
THEY GET TO START ALL OVER AND THE JUDGE GETS TO DECIDE ANEW AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO BE DEFERENTIAL TO THE DECISION MAKING OF COUNSEL, BUT LONG WAY OF SAYING AND TRYING TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL.
BUT SHORT ANSWER, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER ALLOW COUNT, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, KNOWING THAT IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, THAT ANYONE CAN BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU AND YOU WILL HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER, OR YOU TAKE IT IN AND YOU DEAL WITH IT THE SAME WAY YOU DEAL WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
AND I KNOW, MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU JUST EXPLAINED THE APPEAL PROCESS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IT IS A TWO PART PROCESS.
I WANT TO BRING UP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE FIRST THING I WOULD WANT TO BRING UP IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND ZAINAB. SO I DID NOT SUPPORT THIS SECTION OF.
I PRESUME IT'S BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS VAGUE.
SO I WANT TO WORK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WITH YOU PUBLICLY HERE.
I LOOKED AT OUR QEMU, WHICH YOU AND I WORKED ON AS WELL AS PART OF BCR.
I KIND OF USE THAT AS A GUIDELINE FOR HOW WE CAN ADJUST THIS ORDINANCE.
AND BASICALLY I STARTED SAYING LIKE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AS PRESCRIBED BY ZONING CODE.
PROVISIONS. PROVISION A PROVIDE A PUBLIC SPACE TOTALING 10% OF THE SITE, WHICH ENTITLES A TEN FEET IN HEIGHT OR TEN 10% INCREASE IN DENSITY. SUBSECTION B PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF USES SUCH AS A RESTAURANT OR SOME COMMERCIAL ENTITLES AN ADDITIONAL TEN FEET OF HEIGHT AND AN ADDITIONAL 10% INCREASE IN DENSITY.
I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT TO DEBBIE MAYOR.
OKAY. UH, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
SO I'LL WANT IT TO KEEP THAT FLEXIBILITY WHERE YOU KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THIS ISN'T HIGH ENOUGH PERCENTAGE FOR US, YOU KNOW, AND WE SCRAP IT OR ANOTHER ANOTHER PROJECT COMES BEFORE US AND IT DOES MEET EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS A COUNCIL AND WE CAN IMPROVE IT.
SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT TOO STRENUOUS.
I'M ALREADY TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT TOO, YOU KNOW, TOO, TOO DIFFICULT.
YEAH. YOU DON'T WANT TO. YEAH.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL STILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY.
SO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS FINE WITH IT.
WORKING WITH NANCY, ALEC'S STAFF, EVERYBODY ON IT THIS WAY AND.
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IT MOVING FORWARD AS SUCH.BUT. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, MAY I CALL HIM UP TO SEE WHY P AND Z MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE DONE IT? THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL HERE.
SCANLON WROTE THE REASON THAT THAT P&G DECIDED TO REMOVE THE VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING WAS WE FELT THAT THE LANGUAGE WAS SIMPLY TOO VAGUE AND THAT IT WAS DISAPPOINTING TO US THAT THIS WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER, NOT CITY COUNCIL.
WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT THAT ANYTHING WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSING WHAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, THAT SHOULD BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL, NOT CITY MANAGER.
THAT WAS THEIR THINKING BEHIND THAT.
THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER QUESTIONS OR NOT.
OKAY. MADAM SHERMAN, I WAS JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.
BUT THE INTENTION AND THE WAY THIS IS WORDED FOR THE VOLUNTEER INCLUSIONARY HOUSING COMPONENT IS THAT THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT'S CREATED THAT THEN COMES BACK TO COUNCIL. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GIVING THE RIGHTS TO ME TO TO DO, TO HANDLE.
WELL, AGAIN, IF AGAIN, IF I MAY, THAT WAS THAT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE WORDING.
IT WAS REALLY VAGUE. AND AGAIN, AS IT WAS EXPLAINING TO US WITH THE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES, THAT THIS WOULD ALSO BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER RATHER THAN CITY COUNCIL.
THEN WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT WE JUST FELT IT WAS TOO VAGUE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THE INTENTION HERE FROM MY STANDPOINT WITH STAFF IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORK THROUGH WITH THE DEVELOPER BASED ON A PROPOSAL THAT THEY BRING US. SO THERE WOULD BE SOME DISCUSSION, NEGOTIATION THAT OCCURS AT STAFF LIKE WITH OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, BUT THOSE ULTIMATELY DO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.
IN CONSIDERATION IT WOULD COME BACK.
THANK YOU, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME.
THANK YOU. NELSON? FILIBERTO YES, SIR.
MARY JOHN, I KNOW YOU PUT WORK INTO THIS.
I'M TRYING TO ADD SOME PORTION TO IT AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOTHING AGAINST WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO P AND Z DID APPROVE THIS, THOUGH IT JUST WASN'T UNANIMOUS, IS THAT CORRECT? IT WAS UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE, BUT IT WASN'T.
IT WAS UNANIMOUS DISAPPROVAL OF ITEM H, WHICH IS AN INCLUSIONARY HOUSING.
YOU'RE WELCOME. PHIL WEINBERG FOR SIX SIX SCANDAL WROTE AGAIN.
NO, WE APPROVED THE CHANGE IN CHAPTER 169 CODE OF VARIANCES.
AS TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES, WE REMOVED THE VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING FROM OUR APPROVAL.
DOES THAT CLARIFY IT? YOU REMOVE THE PART TO CORRECT UNTIL IT CAN BE.
WE FELT THAT IT SHOULD GO BACK AND REWORDED AGAIN, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AT LEAST I DO. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T DENY THAT.
IN EFFECT, IT WAS JUST THE WAY IT WAS WORDED.
YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU GO WITH THAT, MASSAGING IT SOME MORE.
WELL, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO MASSAGE.
I WATCHED THE MEETING. THAT'S WHY I KNOW.
I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, JUST THE BUDGET.
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BUT MASSAGE, WHAT IS WHAT MY QUESTION IS, I THINK IT'S THE VERBIAGE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO.EXACTLY. AGAIN, WE YOU KNOW, WE READ IT AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT FOOLISH.
AND THEN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE FELT THAT THAT THE IDEA OF IT IS CERTAINLY A GOOD IDEA.
SO TO THAT. WHAT WHAT VERBIAGE DID ANYBODY PROVIDE? ANY SUGGESTIONS ON VERBIAGE OR ANYTHING? WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, AS YOU KNOW, AS A BODY, WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY SO ON ALL ON MASSAGING THINGS ON THE DAIS REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO, YOU KNOW, I WATCHED THE MEETING AND I SAW SOME OF THE CONFUSION.
I WAS JUST SCRATCHING MY HEAD THROUGH IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO CREATE IT WHERE IT'S INCENTIVIZES, BUT IT DOESN'T DISCOURAGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? FORGET IT. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO BOTHER TRYING TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
LIKE I'LL JUST GO THROUGH AS IS WHERE STAFF IS ABLE, LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO, ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM.
THIS PROVIDES THAT AND THEN IT STILL COMES BEFORE COUNCIL.
AND IF WE FEEL 20 IS NOT ENOUGH, WE CAN MASSAGE THE 25%.
OR MAYBE WE FELT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE TOO, YOU KNOW, TOO TIGHT.
WE CAN KNOCK IT DOWN TO 15, SO AND I CAN HAVE MS..
ALEX COME UP AND SPEAK, BUT IT WAS REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE DISCRETION IN THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S A FINE PRODUCT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ISSUE NOT JUST IN PALM BAY, BUT ALL THROUGHOUT OUR OUR COUNTRY.
AND I JUST I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT WELL, WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
AND THEN, BY THE WAY, MR. WEINBERG, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF VAGUENESS.
RIGHT. OR TRYING TO DRUM UP AND CREATE INCENTIVES WHERE WE COULD PARTNER.
WE DO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.
RIGHT. NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT THROUGHOUT OUR OUR NATION, REALLY.
AND SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
AND I THINK IT PROVIDES THAT ABILITY WHERE IT COMES BACK TO US AND WE HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT.
AND AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
YOU DIDN'T CLOSE THE LOOP OF MAKING IT STRINGENT, BUT YOU PROVIDED ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY THAT PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN PARTNER HERE, WE CAN DO SOMETHING HERE.
SO AGAIN, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE'RE ON ON SEPARATE SIDES OF ISSUES.
BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
AND AND AGAIN, I'LL SUPPORT THIS.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES, SIR. AS YOU WERE.
I'M NOT PULLING THE QUESTION YET, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
AND THIS. YOU LOOKED AT THIS AND.
I DIDN'T SEE WHY I SHOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PROBLEM.
P AND PNC SAID THE LANGUAGE IS TOO VAGUE.
AND THEN I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DUE PROCESS OF IT.
IT GOES TO THE CITY, THEN IT COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND CITY.
THAT WEIGHS INFLUENCE ON THE COUNCIL.
WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT, THAT WILL HAVE SOME INFLUENCE ON IT.
SO THE DUE PROCESS PART OF IT, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT AND IT'S 20% THRESHOLD.
WHY? WHY 20? HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER? MAYBE DEPUTY AMERICA ANSWERED.
YEAH. NO, THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE OUT THERE.
AND REGARDING DUE PROCESS, IT'LL, IT'LL, IT'LL IT'S THE SAME PROCESS AS ANYBODY ELSE.
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BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, THAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY CHANGED IT WHERE A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WERE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT HASN'T THAT DIDN'T PASS.
BUT THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS YOU KNOW.
THIS ITEM COULD HAVE HELPED OUT OR OTHER ITEMS AND DEFINITELY ITEMS IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE PROCESS ISN'T CHANGING AT ALL.
THIS IS JUST ADDING ANOTHER TOOL TO CREATE AFFORDABLE UNITS WITHIN THE PROCESS.
SO THERE'S NO SKIPPING THIS OR BYPASSING THAT.
IT'LL STILL COME BEFORE P AND Z LIKE ALWAYS DOES COME BEFORE US AND WE GET THE FINAL SAY SO.
WHAT'S THE THRESHOLD? IS IT TEN? IS IT FIVE? IS IT 30? WHAT'S THE. IF I CAN CLARIFY IT, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE CONFUSION BECAUSE THERE'S TWO SECTIONS TO THIS ORDINANCE, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE PORTION DOES HAVE A MAXIMUM THRESHOLD THAT SPEAKS TO THE THE WAIVER OR THE VARIANCE IT CAN BE GIVEN IS UP TO 20% OF THE PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CAUSING A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION.
SO THERE IS A THRESHOLD RELATED TO VARIANCES.
WHAT WHAT THERE IS NOT A THRESHOLD FOR IS THE VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING COMPONENT.
AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT AND STAFF CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE.
BUT LEAVING THIS FLEXIBLE GIVES THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF NEGOTIATION ABILITY FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THAT DEVELOPER TO BRING YOU A PRODUCT THAT WE HOPE WILL MAXIMIZE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT WE CAN VOLUNTARILY ACCOMPLISH IN THAT PROCESS WORKING WITH THEM.
THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT IS IT IS OPEN ENDED.
BUT ULTIMATELY, IN TERMS OF PROCESS, WHATEVER STAFF WORKS ON WITH THE DEVELOPER CANNOT BE APPROVED AT STAFF LEVEL, HAS TO BE COME BACK HAS TO COME BACK TO TO P&G AND TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT EXPLAINS THAT.
THAT'S WHERE I HAD AN ISSUE WITH.
ALL RIGHT, SIR. WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FELIX.
WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT, DEPUTY MAYOR.
YES, MAYOR, WE HAVE ITEMS SIX, 11, 15 AND 26, SIX,
[CONSENT AGENDA]
11, 15 AND 20.SO YOU PULLED YOUR OWN. TELSA WISHES TO.
ALL ANY OTHER ITEMS. IN NONE. I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM SIX, 11, 15 AND 20.
SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
AS YOU WERE CARRYING ON, MA'AM.
[6. Award of Bid: Unimproved lot mowing - IFB 41-0-2022 - Growth Management Department (STS Maintain Services - $172,000).]
RESOLUTION 2022.A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE RENAMING OF OAKWOOD PARK, LOCATED AT 490 NICK ROAD SOUTHEAST AS PATRICK WOOD MEMORIAL PARK, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND ORDINANCE 2020 274 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATE AND ALLOCATING FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A CONSISTING OF FIVE PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
ADOPTING, RECTIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WE'RE NOW ON ITEM SIX.
SORRY. 430 EASTERN, FOUR CIRCLE PALM BAY SOUTHEAST.
WE HAVE BEEN THE PROVIDER AND MIGHT ADD A SEAMLESS PROVIDER FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
RECENT RENEWAL CAME UP AND WE PUT IN OUR BID.
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MUCH TO OUR DISMAY, WE WERE NOTIFIED THROUGH THE VENDOR LINK THAT WE WERE COUNSEL WAS BEING PRESENTED THIS EVENING TO AWARD TO A DIFFERENT VENDOR WITH A 2% DECREASE IN PRICE OF WHAT WE OFFERED.THIS VENDOR ISN'T FROM OUR CITY.
THEY AREN'T EVEN FROM OUR COUNTY.
THIS WOULD AFFECT THEIR LIVELIHOOD AND OUR ABILITY TO GIVE THEM THE HOURS THEY NEED TO PROVIDE.
SO WE ASK THAT THE COUNCIL RECONSIDER WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT TO YOU AND CONTINUE TO LET US BE THE SERVICE PROVIDER THAT WE'VE BEEN. I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WORKED WITH THE GIRLS IN THE OFFICE THERE AND THE GENTLEMAN IN THE OFFICE THERE.
WE PROVIDE A SEAMLESS SERVICE WHERE 7 MINUTES FROM MOST OF THE LOCATIONS THAT WE SERVICE, WHENEVER THEY GIVE US A CALL THEIR PRIORITY TO US AN EMAIL THEY RESPONDED TO.
THE LAST NUISANCE VEGETATION LIST WE GOT WAS ON FRIDAY, THE 24TH PM AFTER END OF DAY.
SO WE THINK THERE'S VALUE IN THAT.
WE ALSO THINK THAT THE 2% THAT YOU MAY SAVE AND IT WAS LITERALLY A QUARTER A FOOT THAT MAKES UP THAT 2% ON THE 90 SOMETHING THOUSAND BUDGET WOULD BE. TAKEN BACK WITH ADMINISTRATION THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE LOCAL PROVIDER, WE HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP, THERE'S NO GAPS. THERE'S VERY, VERY THE INVOICE SYSTEM WORKS.
THERE'S NEVER ANY CALLBACKS OR ANY OF THAT.
SO THE 2000 THAT YOU MAY SAVE IN YOUR PACKET OF THE YEAR IS GOING TO PROBABLY BE COMPENSATED IN ADMINISTRATION FEES OF YOUR STAFF TRYING TO REWORK THE WHEEL BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE A SEASONED VENDOR THAT KNOWS THE PROCESS.
SO I ASK TONIGHT THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER LEAVING THE CONTRACT THE WAY IT IS AND LEAVE IT FOR.
I THINK I HEARD THREE COUNCILMEN TONIGHT SAY LIVE PLAY AND WORK IN OUR CITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS? DEPUTY MAYOR MADAM SHERMAN.
UH, SO JUST FOR COUNCILS INFORMATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS. THIS WAS A BID PROCESS.
SO THE BID LOOKS AT REALLY JUST TWO THINGS.
FIRST THING IS, IS THE THE COMPANIES THAT BID ON IT, ARE THEY ARE THEY ABLE TO PERFORM THE JOB? AND THE SECOND AND MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT REALLY IS WHAT EVERYONE GETS RANKED ON WHO BIDS ON PRODUCTS LIKE THIS IS WHAT IS THE PRICE.
SO THIS IS STRICTLY A REALLY ESSENTIALLY A PRICE BASED ON BID PROCESS.
AS MRS. CRAM MENTIONED, THEIR COMPANY WHO WHO IS THE INCUMBENT WHO HAS BEEN SERVICING THE CITY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
THEY WERE NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER IN THIS CASE.
AND TO HER POINT, IT WAS A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DIFFERENT.
SO THAT IN A NUTSHELL, IS OUR PROCESS REGARDING THE COMPANY THAT IS THE IS THE LOW BIDDER STAY.
THEY ACTUALLY ARE ACTIVE IN THE CITY AT PRESENT.
SO WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THEM.
SO WE HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH THEM.
SO NO COMPLAINTS, BOTH GREAT COMPANIES.
BUT THIS WAS, LIKE I SAID, A A BID PROCESS THAT WAS AWARDED RECOMMENDED AWARD BASED ON LOW PRICE.
BECAUSE WE REMOVED THAT ORDINANCE.
YES, SIR. SO GAVE PREFERENCE TO PALM BAY? CORRECT. WE DO NOT HAVE A LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE ANY ANY LONGER IN THE CITY.
CARRY ON. MAYOR, I MOTION TO APPROVE AWARD IFB NUMBER 4102002 SM UNIMPROVED LOT GOING TO ALL PRO LAND CLEARING LOCATED PALM BAY FLORIDA.
GOT A MOTION BY CITY ATTORNEY.
WELL, CAN WE CAN WE SECOND THAT FOR DISCUSSION OR OUR SECOND FOR DISCUSSION?
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I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, AS YOU WERE.SO, YES, SIR, WHEN I'M TRACKING YOU AND I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY.
YES, MAYOR, THIS IS NOT AN RFP OR A REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION FOR A PROPOSAL.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT WE GOT RID OF OUR LOCAL PREFERENCE, BUT A LOCAL PREFERENCE WOULD MATTER FOR AN RFP AND LOCAL PREFERENCE DOES NOT MATTER FOR BID.
AND WHEN YOU DO AN INVITATION FOR A BID, PRICE IS A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION.
AND WHEN THE PRICE IS AND THERE'S A WELL, A BODY OF CASE LAW HERE, I MEAN, WHEN THE PRICE IS A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION, IF THE BIDDER IS RESPONSIVE AND THE LOWEST BIDDER, YOU SHALL.
WORE THE CONTRACT TO THE LOWEST, THE MOST RESPONSIBLE IN THE LOWEST BIDDER WITHIN RFP.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE PERSON WHO IS THE LOWEST.
IF THEY'RE RESPONSIVE, THEY'RE THE LOWEST.
IF COUNCIL ATTEMPTS WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE LOWEST.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO WHAT WE CONSIDER THE MOST RESPONSIVE.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY FOR A BID, AND YOU CAN BE ENJOINED FROM DOING SO AND THEN STILL END UP AWARDING THE CONTRACT BECAUSE THIS IS A BID TO THE PERSON THAT IS THE.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR AS FAR AS LEGALLY.
I MEAN, CERTAINLY WHEN YOU DO THE RFP, YOU DO.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES. COUNCILWOMAN.
FOSTER SO THIS IS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO WITH WHAT I'M HEARING, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO APPROVE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
YES, SIR. THEY ARE RESPONSIVE AND THEY THE LOWEST BIDDER.
THERE IS NO FLEXIBILITY FOR A BID.
SO WE HAVE NO DISCRETION? NO. WHY IS IT HERE? THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION AS FAR AS.
HOUSE WILL ULTIMATELY HAS TO APPROVE.
YOU COULD NOT APPROVE IF SOMEHOW THEY WEREN'T RESPONSIVE OR IF THEY WEREN'T THE LOWEST BIDDER.
BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER AWARDING FOR A BID.
IF THEY'RE RESPONSIVE, THEY'RE THE LOWEST BIDDER.
AND WE'VE ALREADY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE.
ONCE YOU GET THOSE TWO THINGS, IT SHALL GO TO THE LOWEST BIDDER.
OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S CLEAR FIRE IN MY HEAD.
I JUST WANT TO SAY ALL PRO, YOU KNOW.
THIS SUCKS BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE I WOULD I WOULD GIVE IT TO YOU IN A HEARTBEAT.
NO, NO, I'M JUST. I'M MAKING A STATEMENT, MAN.
I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU IN A HEARTBEAT.
BUT I GOT TO GO WITH THE ADVICE OF MY COUNSEL AND.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND HAVE THAT PALM BAY PREFERENCE ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU. HERE. IT'S IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
AS THEY MENTIONED, WE THIS WOULDN'T APPLY IF IT WERE A PALM BAY.
YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT, MAYOR.
AND SHE ALSO SAID THAT WE CAN WE CAN DENY THIS AND PUT IT OUT FOR REBID.
SO. SO WE COULD DENY, CORRECT? IF YOU FOUND THAT THE PERSON WASN'T RESPONSIVE.
AND I DON'T I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE BASIS THAT YOU WOULD FIND THAT THE PERSON, THE ONE THAT IT SHOULD BE AWARDED TO WASN'T RESPONSIVE. I MEAN, THOSE ARE WHAT YOUR DETERMINING.
WERE THEY RESPONSIVE AND ARE THEY THE LOWEST BIDDER? I WISH CODE WAS HERE BECAUSE FROM WHAT I HEAR, THIS THIS COMPANY HAS DONE THE LAND CLEARING BEFORE.
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OH, ALEX'S COME UP. OH, GREAT.ALEX BERNARD GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
I DID SPEAK TO VALERIE ABOUT THE INTERACTIONS WITH THE CURRENT LAWN CARE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE USING, AND SHE SAID THAT THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THEM AT ALL.
SO WE DID SPEAK EARLIER TODAY OR YESTERDAY IN REGARDS TO THE SITE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM ALEX WHILE SHE'S AT THE LECTERN? WHEN YOU SAY THE CURRENT LAWN SERVICE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL-PRO, RIGHT? I'M TALKING ABOUT, YES.
THE ONE THAT IS THAT HAD CURRENTLY PUT IN, I GUESS THERE WERE A FEW BIDS.
ALEX, IF I MAY ASK YOU, HOW MANY WHO'S BEEN MORE RESPONSIVE, ALL ALL-PRO OR STARS.
WE CURRENTLY FOR CODE WE'VE ONLY USED ALL PRO STARS, I BELIEVE HAS BEEN USED IN THE PAST FOR PUBLIC WORKS ISSUES, NOT ANYTHING UNDER CODE COMPLIANCE.
SO ALL PRO HAS BEEN MORE RESPONSIVE.
THAT'S THE ONLY EXPOSURE I HAVE.
FELIX. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? JUST A POINT OF CLARITY.
CONTROL IS THE ONE THAT CAN THE LAW.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS IT THE OTHER ONE? NO, NO, SIR. JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THE THE LOW BID WAS THIS COMPANY CALLED STATES THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS CONTRACTS WITH FOR THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS FOR RIGHT OF WAY MOWING.
OUR CURRENT VENDOR PRE THIS BID PROCESS HAS BEEN ALL PRO FLAWLESS.
WELL, I MEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND THE ROLE IS THE ROLE BASE.
AND I THINK. THIS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR AS TO HER DIRECTION, THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO.
AND IF THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, PERFORMING, WE HAVE NO COMPLAINTS.
I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD NOT WE SHOULD EVEN QUESTION THAT.
AND AGAIN, THE RULE IS THE RULE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE MUCH FLEXIBILITY.
I SAY WE JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SINGING BY COUNCIL OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
TYPICALLY, YOU MAKE THE MOTIONS, SIR.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION TO CLARIFY THE MOTION.
THE MOTION MADE WAS FOR ALL PRO LAND CLEARING.
SO THE MOTION WAS MADE FOR ALL PRO LAND CLEARING, ALL THIS LAWN CARE AND LANDSCAPING, AND I MADE THE SECOND WITH THE 93,754 DISCUSSION.
SO GROWTH MANAGEMENT ASSETS IS WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING IN THAT CONTRACT WHEN 72.
YES. BUT COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO MADE THE MOTION FOR ALL-PRO INSTEAD OF.
THE RECOMMENDATION ALSO WASN'T CORRECT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THE MOTION AND THEREFORE WHAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME IF LIKELY THE LOWEST BIDDER WOULD CHALLENGE AND PROBABLY.
SUCCEED IN SHOWING THAT THE CITY ACTED ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS BECAUSE THERE IS A BODY, A CASE LAW THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT IF THE CITY AWARDS A CONTRACT, WHEN THERE'S AN INVITATION TO BID, AND IT'S NOT TO THE PERSON THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE AND THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT BASED UPON ITS OWN PERSONAL PREFERENCES, THAT IS ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.
AND WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS YOU'RE ENJOINED FROM GIVING THE CONTRACT TO THE PERSON THAT WASN'T THE LOWEST BIDDER, AND YOU'RE MANDATED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THE BID.
GIVE IT TO THE PERSON THAT IS RESPONSIVE AND THE LOWEST BIDDER.
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YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. YEAH.HERE WE ARE. SO I GOT A MOTION BY.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SINGING I PULLED MY SECOND.
THANK YOU. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO ANYONE WISHED THE SECOND.
WILSON FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY REAL QUICK.
AND I KNOW SHE JUST I'M SORRY, MAYOR.
YEAH, I SEE YOU LOOKING AT ME, BILL.
THIS CANNOT BE DENIED AND SENT BACK.
IT CAN'T BE DENIED. OKAY. I'M JUST MAKING SURE.
SO. NOW THERE WAS A LEGAL WAY TO GET YOU ALL THERE.
AND THERE'S PLENTY OF RESPONSIVENESS FROM FLAWLESS REGARDING THE ISSUE.
IF I MAY, SIR, UM, BEFORE A CITY ATTORNEY CONTINUES, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
SO THAT'S CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, UH, STAFF WAS NOT INDICATING THAT STAFF WAS FAILING TO PERFORM.
WHAT ALEX WAS CLARIFYING AS GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTORS THAT HER EXPERIENCE AND HER STAFF'S EXPERIENCE IS WITH, UM, FLAWLESS AND OR ALL PRO AND THAT THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. SHE DID NOT HAVE ANY REFERENCE POINT ON STAFF.
AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS NOT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH STAFF THAT THEY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
SO BOTH ARE GOOD PERFORMING COMPANIES IN THE CITY, ACCORDING TO STAFF AT PRESENT.
YES. WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD SCS WITH CONTRACT.
I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? MAYOR. MY ONLY THING.
BECAUSE MY CONCERN WITH THIS WITH THE PROCESS AND THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY'VE BEEN THE BIT THEY'VE HAD THE CONTRACT FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS AND IN GOOD FAITH, YOU KNOW BID AT THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY WERE LOW BALLED AND I'M NOT AND I'M NOT TRYING TO ACCUSE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE MY ISSUE IS.
LIKE, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT SO WE DON'T GET SUED.
BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THIS.
SO SO THAT'S THAT'S MY STATEMENT, SIR.
AND WE SAW THAT WITH WHAT IS THIS IN BOWIE? I HAD THEM BELLY WITH OUR FIREWORKS THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND WE FOUND OUT HOW THAT PANNED OUT.
RIGHT. SO, YEAH, MAYBE IT'S TIME THAT WE LOOK AT SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION, RIGHT? AND WHERE THEY UNDERCUT IT.
SO THAT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON BRINGS AN EXCELLENT POINT IN THAT PERHAPS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND. PERFORMING FOR THREE YEARS.
THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF CREDIT FOR THAT.
BUT CITY ATTORNEY ALREADY MENTIONED THAT IT'S BASED ON THAT PRICE.
SO MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT SOMETHING SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN HERE? I'M JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, STEVIE WONDER COULD SEE.
AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE AN ISSUE VOTING FOR FOR THIS.
I REALLY DO. I KNOW IT WOULD PUT US IN JEOPARDY, LEGAL JEOPARDY, BUT.
SO I DON'T I'M NOT GOING TO SHOW HIM ANY LOVE.
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IT IS TRUE THAT PUBLIC RECORD WOULD BE LIKE THE CURRENT INCUMBENT, WHAT THEY WHAT THEIR BID WAS HISTORICALLY AND WHAT THEY HAVE CHARGED THE CITY THAT THAT ABSOLUTELY BECOMES PUBLIC RECORD AFTER THE BID PROCESS CONCLUDES THEY'RE AWARDED AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT.I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS BID PROCESS AND ALL OUR OTHER BID PROCESSES, IT IS A CLOSED AND FAIR AND EQUITABLE SYSTEM. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S TWO COMPANIES, FIVE COMPANIES, TEN COMPANIES AND THEY ALL WANT TO BID ON, IN THIS CASE, THE MOWING SERVICES.
SO THOSE COME IN THERE, THEY'RE IN SEALED ENVELOPES.
THERE ARE OPENED ONLY AT A PUBLIC NOTICE KIND OF MEETING.
SO ALL OF THAT IS HELD IN VERY, VERY TIGHT PROCEDURES, VERY, VERY MONITORED PROCESS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE FAIR SO THAT NO ONE AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS FOR THE PROCESS, NO ONE HAS ACCESS TO WHAT ONE COMPANY IS BID VERSUS THE OTHER IN ADVANCE OF THIS PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR FOR EVERYONE.
THIS WAS A NORMAL, FAIR, APPROPRIATELY DONE, CLOSED BID PROCESS.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE POINT THAT THAT IS BEING MADE IS, YES, SOMEONE COULD LOOK AND DO SOME RESEARCH AND SEE WHAT THE CURRENT THE CURRENT COMPANY PROVIDING THE SERVICE IS CHARGING THE CITY. AND THEN THEY DID PART OF THE PROCESS.
THEY COULD COME IN AND SAY, I'M GOING TO TRY TO BID LOWER THAN THAT, THINKING THAT I MIGHT WIN AND OUT OUTBID THAT THE INCUMBENT WHICH TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE APPEARS TO BE WHAT HAPPENED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR SAYING THAT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLAINING THAT.
THEY OUTBID MELBOURNE, WEST MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY.
ALL IN ALL, IN BREVARD COUNTY.
AND THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE IS THERE'S MORE $3,000 VERSUS PALM BAY COMPANY.
WHAT CITY? COMPANY, 91,000 OUTBID.
IT'S OUTBID SOMETHING SOMETHING DON'T SMELL RIGHT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FAST ONE.
I JUST FEEL MY GUT FEELING SAYS SOMETHING UNETHICAL.
NOT ON PALM BAY, NOT ON THE STAFF SIDE, BUT SOMEBODY DID SOME RESEARCH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PUT IN THERE AND OUTBID EVERY COMPANY IN BREVARD COUNTY.
I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSED NAY AS IT'S 3 TO 2. BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.
I NEED TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO COMMENCE WITH OUR MEETING.
AND WE WERE ON ITEM NUMBER 11, BILL BRATTON.
[11. Contract: Mowing maintenance, rights-of-way and corridors, Amendment 3 - IFB 56-0-2021 - Public Works Department (STS Maintain Services, Inc. - $104,971).]
GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.IF I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THE STAR MAINTENANCE SERVICE FOR $104,000 AND ONE OF THE ITEMS WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THAT PACKET WAS ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY SOUTH, WHICH WAS 95 TO BABCOCK.
I KNOW THE CITY WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE THE LAWN ON 95, BUT THEN UNDER EMERALD LAKE KD. BILL BATTENS REWINDING HIS TAPES HERE.
I COULD BE WRONG. I'VE BEEN WRONG BEFORE, BUT I THOUGHT UNDER THE SEED WITH EMERALD LAKES THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MOWING FROM WHENCE YOU GOT OFF 95 TO BABCOCK STREET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE WAS.
BUT I'M. I REMEMBER SEEING THAT.
SO SOMEBODY COULD GO AHEAD AND CHECK THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE SEED SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MOWING ALONG THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AFTER THEY GOT OFF 95.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. CARRY ON, MA'AM.
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BUT EITHER WAY, WHEN THE ROAD WAS FIRST OPEN, WE KNEW WE HAD TO MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T QUITE AT THAT POINT YET WITH THE DEVELOPERS.BUT I I'M NOT PREPARED TONIGHT TO ANSWER THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME TO CHECK OR SPEAK TO A DRAFT VERSION.
ANY QUESTIONS OF SELF COUNCIL.
I MEAN, EMOTION. MOST OF THE PROOF AMENDMENT THREE TO CONTRACT DASH 56, DASH ZERO TWO 2021 IN THE AMOUNT OF $104,970.60 TO THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $215,880.60. BUT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? IN AN ALL IN FAVOR HIGH ANY OPPOSE AS IS 4 TO 1.
YOURS. I WAS CALLING I WAS CALLING ON YOU.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THIS IS YOURS.
[15. Consideration of a Memorandum of Understanding with the School Board of Brevard County for a Career and Technical Education Program. (Deputy Mayor Johnson)]
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.I HAD SOME THAT WERE VERY GOOD, BUT I HAD PREDOMINANTLY ALL WERE NOT GOOD.
THEY WOULD SHOW UP AND JUST LIKE YOU SAY IN YOUR CONTRACT AT WILL, THEY WOULD SHOW UP.
YOU'D BE PLANNING TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE COMING IN.
SO YOU ENDED UP HAVING TO DO THE JOB YOURSELF SO YOU COULDN'T PASS THAT EXPERIENCE ON.
BUT BILL BATTEN, BEING THE WAY HE IS, I HAD NO PROBLEM FIRING SOMEBODY WHEN THEY DIDN'T PERFORM.
BUT. THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF THIS IS A GRAND IDEA.
SO HOW ARE YOU CALCULATING IN YOUR BUDGET HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO PAY? WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE HOW MANY OF THESE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE SHOWING UP, WANTING TO BE PUT IN THE POSITION.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THAT IS GOING TO BE.
WE HAVE IDEAS IN WHICH POSITIONS ARE GOING TO BE GOING INTO.
BUT THERE IS NOTHING TO PLAN ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUDGET AND.
THEY DON'T SHOW BECAUSE IT'S AT WILL.
THERE'S NO RESPONSIBILITIES FOR IT TO COINCIDE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S ALL IT IS AT WILL.
AND IT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY.
WELL, I'M TRAINING YOU AT MINIMUM WAGE.
MINIMUM WAGE, BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE.
THANK YOU. IF THAT'S ONLY PART.
BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT FIREFIGHTING AND PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO HAVE THE FIREFIGHTING PROGRAM.
SO THIS CAN BE A DIRECT, YOU KNOW, FUNNEL SYSTEM FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO COME HERE.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE STUDENTS, THESE ARE JUNIORS AND SENIORS.
AND THEY MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T JUST TAKE ANYBODY LIKE YOU HAVE TO EARN YOUR SPOT INTO A CURRENT TECHNICAL POSITION AND YOU CAN EASILY LOSE THAT SPOT THAT'S JUST ON THE BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS LEVEL.
SO BEFORE THEY EVEN GET TO US, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE MADE, BUT THEN THERE WILL BE ADDED AS WELL FOR THE I HEARD HIM TALKING ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT.
THE INTENTION IS TO MAKE THEM FULL TIME EMPLOYEE.
SO THAT'S THE FISCAL IMPACT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE CITY.
BUT MISS SHERMAN, IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE EVEN MORE.
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APPRENTICESHIP SIDE OF THINGS.AND IF THE DEPARTMENT CHOOSES TO HIRE THEM, THEY MAY DO SO.
THEY CAN BE FIRED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE.
THERE'S A GREAT PROGRAM OUT AT HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL THAT WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AND COME RIGHT AND BRING THEM RIGHT DOWN TO MALABAR, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF VACANCIES IN THAT DIVISION AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE AGENDA MEMO.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE PERSONNEL DOLLARS THAT ARE UNSPENT, SO OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT WE WOULD HIRE THESE FOLKS AT THE APPROPRIATE WAGE FOR THE SPECIFIC POSITION AND USE AVAILABLE SALARIES FOR THOSE POSITIONS.
BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW IT'S HOW IT IS SET TO WORK.
AND WE LISTED OUT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE THINK ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE USED BY OUR DEPARTMENTS.
BUILDING CONSTRUCTION IS ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE THERE ARE TRADES, PLUMBERS, HVAC, ETC.
C'MERE. ARE WE LOOKING AT HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS IN PALM BAY OR JUST IN BREVARD SCHOOL SYSTEM? UM, OUR PREFERENCE IS PALM BAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIREFIGHTER AND I BELIEVE THE TELECOMMUNICATION PROGRAMS ARE ALL GOING TO BE AT PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT'S A LITTLE OVER THE BORDER TECHNICALLY.
BUT PART OF THE THING IS GEOGRAPHICALLY, THE STUDENTS HAVE BE ABLE TO GET TO TO OUR LOCATION.
SO IT WORKS OUT BETTER FOR FOR THEM AND FOR US IF THEY'RE IN ONE OF THE AREA SCHOOLS.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU TO, SIR, IF IF THERE IS A PROGRAM THAT IS CAN BRING US GOOD CANDIDATES FOR POSITIONS BOTH WHILE THEY'RE IN SCHOOL AND MAYBE AFTER AND THEY'RE UP IN TITUSVILLE, BUT THEY HAVE A WAY TO GET DOWN TO PALM BAY.
OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS? RIGHT. THE SPACE COAST TRANSIT BUS FOR FREE OR I MEAN, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO GET TO THE JOB SITE? I MEAN, WE GOT A BUS SYSTEM HERE.
CAN THEY USE DO THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE BUS SYSTEM OR WITH THE CITY ON THE SIPHON TO GET THEM TO WORK? THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS PROVIDES THAT FOR THE STUDENTS.
I KNOW THAT IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE THE SCHOOL THE SCHOOL FOLKS FOR THIS PROGRAM, THE RESPONSIBILITY, I BELIEVE, RESTS ON THE STUDENT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET TO THEIR JOB SITE.
SO WE MIGHT HAVE THE BUS ROUTE THAT STOPS RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF CITY HALL.
AND THE COUNCILMAN FORCED TO PAY FOR THEM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TO EXPLORE WHETHER THEY GIVE STUDENTS PASSES.
I KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE REDUCED FARES OR FREE FARES IN THE PAST TO GET TO THE BEACH.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN OPEN UP A DIALOG.
WE CAN HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER LOOK INTO THAT AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THERE MAY BE SOME STUDENTS THAT WOULD WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS AND CAN'T, BUT THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DIALOG WITH SPACE COAST AREA TRANSIT, BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THAT.
YEAH. AND WITH THAT, YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
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TO WORK AND GET BACK HOME, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.IF YOU KNOW A STIPEND EVERY MONTH.
BUT THEY WILL HELP STUDENTS IF THEY IF THEY DO NEED HELP.
WHAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING? I'LL CONFIRM AND I CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL OR HAVE STAFF COME BACK TO COUNSEL.
BUT ME PERSONALLY, LIKE IF I SEE A STUDENT WHO'S GOING TO LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE A FUTURE FIREFIGHTER, I'LL PUT UP SOME MONEY TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET TO AND FROM BECAUSE THAT'S THE FUTURE.
FUTURE POLICE CHIEF OR FIRE CHIEF AND MAKE A CAREER OUT OF IT? WELL, AND I THINK THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN GET THERE.
I'M IMAGINING WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THEM.
WHY NOT PROVIDE A STIPEND WHETHER THEY GOT A CAR OR WHETHER THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR? A REASONABLE EXTRA TO GET THEM TO HERE AND GET THEM HOME.
TO IMPLEMENT THE BEST EDUCATION I EVER GOT WAS A JOB IN HIGH SCHOOL.
CAN'T PUT IT. YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT.
I LOVE IT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY.
AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HOW I'M GOING TO GET TO WORK TOMORROW.
I'M GOING TO BE LATE, GET HERE AND BE RESPONSIBLE ADULTS.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.
SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX.
DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE? NO MATTER HOW THINGS ARE, GRADE INITIATIVE APPLAUDED AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 20 BAREBACK.
[20. Consideration of utilizing Transportation Impact Fees for funding the Northwest and Southeast Transportation Master Plan studies ($83,684).]
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST.STUDY IS FOR THE SOUTHWEST AND THE NORTH NORTHWEST.
I'M NOT SOUTHWEST SOUTHEAST IN THE NORTHWEST.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHY AREN'T WE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SAME IMPACT THAT IT IS HAVING? IF IT'S HAVING THE IMPACT TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, WE'RE PROBABLY HAVING THE SAME IMPACT TO THE WEST ALSO.
I JUST LOOKED AT SEVERAL POTENTIAL ITEMS TONIGHT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE SAME SAME CHANGES THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD HAVE DONE THAT ARE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN SOUTHWEST AREA.
SO MY QUESTION IS, COULD WE CONSIDER PUTTING INCREASING THIS STUDY TO INCORPORATE THE SOUTHWEST ALSO? IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD HAVE THE STUDY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
BUT I ALSO REALIZE THAT THE BIGGER YOU MAKE THE PROJECT, THE BIGGER THE PRICE TAG.
AND WE'RE ALREADY AT $83,000 FOR ONLY TWO LOCATIONS.
TO DO THE STUDY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE DATA TO MAKE A DECISION ON.
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BUT IT ALSO RELATES BACK TO THE MORATORIUM WE'RE LOOKING AT.WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. WE HAVE TO IF WE PASS THE MORATORIUM, THE.
HAVING SOME INFORMATION IN THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE PRACTICAL FOR ANALYZING IT.
AND I'D HATE TO SEE ONE OF THE ONE AREA OF THE CITY GET LEFT OUT THAT WAS PERTINENT FOR THAT STUDY, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE SEEING THE SAME IMPACT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SOUTHWEST EVENTUALLY HAS TO GET TO THE NORTHEAST OR THE SOUTHWEST UNLESS YOU'RE JUST GOING.
DO EAST AND WEST IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
ADAM SHERMAN OR ANY OTHER SPEAKER.
ADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MARY.
SO THERE ARE THINGS WE WILL BE DOING IN THE FUTURE TO STUDY OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
SOUTHWEST IS IMPORTANT, BUT NOT AS CRITICAL AT THIS POINT.
WE ALSO HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF PACING IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTS THAT STAFF CAN MANAGE.
SO THOSE ARE OUR HIGH PRIORITIES.
WE'RE STARTING THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT STOPPING THERE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALSO ON THE IN MOTION MOTION APPROVED USING TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE FOR FUNDING THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN STUDIES FOR $83,684.46.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? CNN ALL IN FAVOR.
MANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE.UH, AND WE SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT IT.
THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THE, AT THE STATE LEVEL, THE, UM, THERE'S BEEN $175 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANTS. ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN A NORMAL APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS IN THAT TO ACCESS THIS, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HOUSE SIDE.
THE SENATE IS INVOLVED IN THE DECISION MAKING ON THIS, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT.
BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE REQUEST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT WE SUBMIT TO THE HOUSE FOR CONSIDERATION AS THE CITIES GRANT PROJECT.
WE'VE GIVEN YOU THREE SCENARIOS, THREE IDEAS.
SO THAT ITEM IS THE FIRST ONE IN YOUR IN YOUR LIST.
THE OTHER TWO ITEMS JUST BRIEFLY ARE A, UM, A BEARCAT OR A SWAT VEHICLE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THE LAST ONE WOULD BE A BUILD OUT OF AN EOC AND I.T DEPARTMENT SPACE, THE THIRD FLOOR BUILDING.
HOWEVER, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY OUR, OUR LOBBYISTS THAT THE BEST PLAN IS TO SUBMIT ONE PROJECT.
SO FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT PROJECT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT IF IT IS FIRE STATION SEVEN? UM, WE ARE UNDER A LITTLE BIT OF A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT OUR APPLICATION BY JULY 15TH.
IN THE CASE OF FIRE STATION SEVEN, WE ALL, I THINK, BROADLY AGREE THAT FIRE STATION SEVEN IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITIES ON OUR ON OUR LIST FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO TRY TO SUM IT UP IS THAT WE GET COUNCIL CONSIDERATION FOR WHETHER WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ASK FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN THAT YOU LET US KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ASK FOR IN OUR REQUESTS.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT GENERALLY WE SHOULD STAY AROUND THE $1 MILLION RANGE, BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE FINE WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING FORWARD WHATEVER OUR ASK IS.
SO IT WOULD BE WHAT AMOUNT YOU'D LIKE TO SUBMIT.
AND THEN MY OTHER REQUEST WOULD BE THAT YOU CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL TO MATCH WHAT WE NEED TO FUND THE REST OF THE BUILD OF FIRE STATION SEVEN, WHICH IS ESTIMATED AT $4 MILLION AT PRESENT BY SETTING ASIDE ON DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.
SO THAT WOULD BE SORT OF IN A NUTSHELL, THE REQUEST AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY SPEAKER, SIR.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN AND THE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION WITH THE MATCH OF.
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SO. ALL RIGHT.SORRY. IT WOULD BE 2.6 MILLION AS THE MATCH BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, CLOSE TO 340, 360,000 ALREADY SET ASIDE AND IN OUR, OUR FUND FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO THE BALANCE BETWEEN A $1 MILLION ASK A 360,000 IS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR A $4 MILLION BUILD, PUTS YOU AT 1.6 THAT YOU WOULD SET ASIDE OUT OF A DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.
SO AT 1.6 AND UNDER DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.
YES. THANK YOU. IT SAYS ONE POINT I'M SORRY TO POINT OUT.
I CAN AMEND IT, BUT I'LL START WITH 1.6 MILLION AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY.
WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AT 1.6, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, DEPUTY MAYOR.
AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM COMING UP.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT 1.6 AND THEN 1.3, YOU ADD THAT UP AND THAT TAKES US TO ALMOST, ALMOST 4 MILLION.
SO THAT WAS MY THAT WAS MY LOGIC BEHIND IT.
BUT THEN IF WE DO 2.6 AND THEN 1.3, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING AT 1.6 ORIGINALLY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF OR COUNCIL FEELS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I'M LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST MAKING THE MOTION TO GET THE CONVERSATION.
AND THE DIALOG STARTED AT 1.6 WAS JUST NOW.
YEAH, NO, I'M TRACKING YOU BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CONSIDER THE 1.3 DOWN RANGE, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING.
BUT I THINK I THINK THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH TO TO HIT THE 2.6.
RIGHT. AND THEN THE 1.3, BECAUSE THAT PUTS US AS THE 33.9.
BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, DEPUTY MAYOR IS MS..
SHERMAN WANTS THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT WE GO THERE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE AND THIS IS GOING DOWN RANGE, IF WE GO DOWN TO ITEM, WHAT IS IT? NUMBER TWO, THE RECONSIDERATION.
AND THEN WHAT OCCURS IS WE WE APPROVE THE RECONSIDERATION TODAY, BUT THEN IT HAS TO COME BACK TO OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER WHICH IS AFTER THAT DEADLINE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVISE.
AND DO I NEED THEM TO PULL THIS SECOND OR CAN I AMEND MY MOTION FIRST? THE SECOND SHOT YOU HAD, THE SECOND YOU SHOULD PULL IT.
AND THEN YOU CAN. I'LL PUT MY SECOND IN, IN MY MOTION FROM 1.6 TO 2.6.
I'D SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THANK YOU. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO.
THERE WAS A LOT OF NUMBERS THROWN. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING FROM.
COPY THAT. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO, GENTLEMEN, AS WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING AND I'LL PRESENT THIS ITEM LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED TAKING THAT THAT CRA FUNDING THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TOWARDS ROADS AND WE WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO BUILD STATION SEVEN.
SO WHAT I HAVE PROPOSED IS USING THAT $1.3 MILLION, AS YOU REMEMBER, TOWARDS THIS GRANT FUNDING THAT JUST CAME AVAILABLE. I THINK IT'S $75 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE STATE, IS THAT CORRECT?
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175 AS YOU WERE UNDER $75 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE STATE, WHICH DOESN'T LEAVE A LOT WHEN YOU DISCUSS HOW MANY MUNICIPALITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT THERE WILL BE.SO I, I, I BRING THIS BEFORE YOU TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
I'D LIKE FOR US TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD EITHER WAY.
RIGHT. BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WE NEED THAT STATION SEVEN.
SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT COMMON CARDS.
YES, SIR. PHIL WEINBERG, FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN.
PHIL WEINBERG. FOUR, SIX, SIX.
SCANLAN. I KNOW THIS IS JUST A REQUEST TO RECONSIDER THE SITE.
I KNOW THAT THAT FIREHOUSE SEVEN SEVEN IS A MAJOR, MAJOR NEED FOR THE FOR THE CITY.
HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW, THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY ARE CARRYING $150 MILLION BOND.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING THAT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS YOUR PREDECESSORS KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON ROAD MAINTENANCE.
IF YOU KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN AND SAY, YEAH, WELL, WE CAN DO IT LATER.
YOU CANNOT PUT THE ROAD MAINTENANCE OFF AGAIN AND CONTINUE IT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, YOU'RE TELLING THE TAXPAYER, SAY THAT 150 MILLION BUCKS YOU'RE SPENDING TO FIX THE ROADS THAT THAT WE LET, AGAIN, NOT YOUR PREDECESSORS FALL INTO DISREPAIR.
WE NEED $3 MILLION A YEAR TO KEEP THE ROADS.
FIX YOUR FIXING THEM OR WE'RE FIXING THEM.
YOU NEED TO PUT THE MONEY ASIDE TO TO KEEP THEM THAT WAY.
AND WE CAN FIND THE MONEY FOR FIREHOUSE SEVEN IN THE UNDESIGNATED BALANCE.
THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS FOR THE CITY, BUT THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE.
I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SPEND IT, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO, IT'S THERE.
ESPECIALLY IF WE GET THIS GRANT.
BUT TAKE MONEY THAT THAT YOU ALREADY AGREED SHOULD GO TO THE ROAD.
MAINTENANCE IS JUST NOTHING BUT FOOLISH.
GO BACK. GILBERT BACK IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
IF BY CHANCE YOU DO APPROVE THIS.
IF THAT'S WHAT THE ACTION ACTUALLY IS, I'D LIKE TO SAY IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY DEDICATED TO COME BACK TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
SO BILL BATTEN, LOOKING AT YOUR $20 MILLION, YOU HAVE SITTING IN THE DESIGNATED FUND RIGHT NOW.
WHY DON'T WE JUST USE THE UN DESIGNATED FUND THAT WE WERE STILL ACCOMPLISHING THE FIRE STATION AND WE'RE STILL ACCOMPLISHING THE OBJECTIVE FOR WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY STATED OF MAINTAINING OUR ROADS.
YOU WILL ACCOMPLISH BOTH AND YOU STILL BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THE SAME MONEY.
IT'S JUST WHICH WAY ARE YOU SHUFFLING IT? ROADS ARE TAKING CARE OF FIRE STATION.
WE'RE USING THE 20 MILLION UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO COVER THAT PROCESS.
SO YOU DON'T NEED TO GO BACK AND CHANGE SOMETHING.
JUST USE THIS PILE OF MONEY THAT'S ALREADY SITTING HERE.
YOU PUT IT UP THERE AS PROPOSAL.
IF THEY ACCEPT IT, YOU ACCOMPLISHED YOUR GOAL.
IF IT DOES NOT GET ACCEPTED, I KNOW MY ROADS ARE STILL BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
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THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING FASTER.NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
BOTH MR. BATTEN AND MR. WEINBERG SAID IT PRETTY WELL.
SIMPLY SPEAKING, DON'T TOUCH THAT MONEY.
IT WAS A MIRACLE THAT THE THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND FINALLY WENT ABOVE $1,000,000.
IT HASN'T BEEN ABOVE $1,000,000 SINCE IT'S EXISTED AS A REOCCURRING LINE ITEM.
AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, IT SHOULD BE A REOCCURRING LINE ITEM EACH YEAR, AROUND 3 MILLION AS COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT NICELY.
THIS COUNCIL HAS NEGLECTED THE ROADS SO FAR.
WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO STRESS THAT MORE.
MAINTAINING THE ROADS IS MANDATORY.
IT IS PARAMOUNT. IT IS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES OF A MUNICIPALITY, INCLUDING OURS.
WELL, I BELIEVE, BY ANY OF THE RESIDENTS.
WE DESPERATELY NEED THAT FIRE STATION AND TWO MORE.
BUT THIS IS NOT HOW YOU DO IT.
THE FIRST DRAFT LOOK VERY PRELIMINARY.
I KNOW OF THE BUDGET FOR 2023 YET AGAIN PUTS $0 TOWARDS ROAD MAINTENANCE.
AND ALL THE MORE REASON, THOUGH, THAT SHOULD BE RECTIFIED TO NOT PULL THIS MONEY OUT OF ROAD MAINTENANCE AFTER HAVING IT SIT IN THERE FOR TWO MONTHS. I THINK IT'S NOT IMPORTANT, I GUESS.
NOT VERY LONG. NOT LONG ENOUGH.
NOT LONG ENOUGH TO BE SPENT ON OUR BADLY IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT ROADS.
YOU CAN'T ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL WHEN YOU ARE DEEPLY IN DEBT TO BOTH OF THEM ALREADY.
WE NEED TO FIND A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.
WE SHOULD RECONSIDER THE $175 MILLION.
AND I REMEMBER, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU WERE RIGHT ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM FIRE STATION SEVEN AND THE DESPERATE NEED BECAUSE FIRE STATION ONE IS OVERWHELMED OUT THERE.
THAT IS THE CRITICAL NEED TODAY.
BUT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH IT BEING STAYING THERE.
AND I. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? SURE. COUNCILMAN.
YEAH. I THINK I WAS WITH YOU ON THIS.
YEAH. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS STATED THAT.
YEAH, AND I DON'T THINK I'M NEGLECTING OUR ROADS.
I FEEL. I WANT TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER HOW MUCH WE PUT IN LAST BUDGET.
REMEMBER, FOR THE ROAD, THE LAST TWO BUDGET CYCLES WE PUT, THE REOCCURRING LINE ITEM WAS 750,000.
THE BUDGET WE WILL PRESENT TO YOU NEXT WEEK HAS $1,000,000 LINE ITEM IN THERE.
AND OUR HOPE IS THAT NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IN ADDITION TO THE $1 MILLION OF COUNCIL, APPROVES THE BUDGET WITH THAT IN IT AS AS PRESENTED THAT WE CAN ALSO AGAIN RETURN TO THE CRA FUNDING WHEN THAT IS WHEN THAT LEFTOVER THEORY FUNDING IS CALCULATED, WHEN IT RETURNS BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE CAN DIRECT THAT LIKE WE'RE DOING, LIKE WE ALREADY DID DIRECT THAT TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.
THAT NUMBER SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE IT WAS 1.3 THIS YEAR.
IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THAT.
IS THAT NEGLECTING THE ROADS? YOUR PROPOSAL.
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I ROAD PROGRAM.I'M SORRY, ARE YOU ASKING ME THAT OR.
YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY IN THAT QUESTION.
UM, WELL, MY, MY PERSPECTIVE AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, COUNSEL, IS THAT.
IF WE CAN MAKE A PRIORITY TO TAKE THE CIARA FUNDING.
AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF MANY OPTIONS, RIGHT.
BUT IF WE CAN MAKE A PRIORITY TO TAKE THE CIARA FUNDING AS THE CIARA SUNSETS IN 2024.
AND SO WE'VE STARTED A LITTLE EARLY HERE WITH THIS THIS YEAR TAKING THE MONEY THAT WAS GOING BACK INTO GENERAL FUND AND ASKING TO REDIRECT THAT TO A ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, WHICH COUNCIL DID. SO IF WE DO THAT EACH YEAR AND WE ADD ADDITIONAL NEW REVENUE INTO THE FUND, WHICH THE $1 MILLION 1 MILLION WOULD REPRESENT, THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE WELL ON THE WAY TO TO BE IN A POSITION WHEN THE ROAD ROAD BOND PROGRAM ENDS, WE WILL BE IN A POSITION THAT'S THE GOAL.
RIGHT, TO TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN OUR ROADS GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.
SO WE DON'T ALLOW THE CITY TO FALL BACK INTO THE PLACE IT WAS BEFORE.
EXACTLY. AND THE COUNCIL USED TO.
DEPUTY MAYOR WHEN THE LAST COUNCIL WAS HERE, DID THEY HOW MUCH DO YOU RECALL HOW MUCH THEY PUT IN THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND? SO EVERY EVERY TIME WE SOLD.
WELL, FIRST I GOT TO STAY CONSISTENT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'M TRYING TO GET US BACK ON TRACK.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK IT'S THE MAYOR ITEM.
WELL, I WAS GOOD WITH EITHER WAY.
THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO NOT CONSIDER THE ITEM AS REQUESTED.
I'LL SECOND IT. AND THE REASON WHY THAT THE REASON WHY? BECAUSE REMEMBER LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I SAID, HEY, LET'S DO IT.
AND I'M WITH YOU THAT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, BECAUSE OUR PREVIOUS.
NOW WE'RE GOOD TO GO, RIGHT? MY WHOLE MY MY WHOLE GOAL WAS TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
HOW WE GOT THERE IS IT'S IRRELEVANT.
IT REALLY IS, BECAUSE NOW THE MONEY IS GOING THERE.
I'LL. I'LL. I SECONDED YOUR MOTION, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION NOT TO CONSIDER.
I JUST DON'T LIKE SOMEBODY SAYING I'M NEGLECTING OUR ROADS.
I GOT, YOU KNOW, AND WE GAVE THE.
CITY MANAGER EVERY TIME SHE REQUESTED.
WE APPROVED HER REQUEST FOR THE MONEY FOR THE ROAD, AND NOW WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN.
SO DON'T SAY WE WERE NEGLECTING OUR ROADS AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT.
THE BOND GET TAKEN CARE OF, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE OUR ROLES DON'T GO BACKWARDS.
AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT AS LONG AS I'M HERE.
BUT I WAS WITH THE MAYOR ON GETTING FIRE STATION DONE.
THAT'S WHY I SECOND HIS EMOTION, HIS MOTION TO GET FIRE STATION DONE.
TO ME, THAT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS I WROTE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE NEEDED A MOTION NOT TO EVEN CONSIDER THIS, BECAUSE IT WOULD.
WITHOUT A MOTION, IT WOULD JUST FAIL.
AND WE JUST. DO YOU WANT TO CLEAN THIS UP? OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION NOT TO CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER TWO.
AND IT WAS SET BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA, ALL IN FAVOR.
AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I GUESS THAT'S THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT, RIGHT? ITEM NUMBER THREE.
I'M GONNA ASK, UH, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, JOAN BROWN, OVER THIS ONE FOR EVERYONE.
OR ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY. GOOD MORNING.
THIS ITEM IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE JUNE 6TH COUNCIL MEETING UNDER ADMIN REPORTS BRINGING FORTH A PROPOSAL ON A MORATORIUM THAT IS VERY NARROW IN SCOPE SO AS TO NOT DETER DEVELOPMENT THAT THE CITY HAS ACTIVELY BEEN SAYING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT, BUT ALSO TO ALLOW THE CITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE APPROVED, AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE COMING IN THE DOOR.
SO I'LL I'LL BRIEFLY JUST READ A PART OF THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS AGENDA MEMO.
BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S A IT IS INTENDED TO BE A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF PROJECTS AND FOR A BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME.
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CONSENSUS FOR BRINGING FORTH AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF A MORATORIUM TO TEMPORARILY SUSPEND CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND DEVELOPMENT PERMITS FOR.THE MORATORIUM WOULD EXCLUDE THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND DEVELOPMENT PERMITS.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLANS.
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THE SMALL CHANGE IN THE MEMO.
IT CURRENTLY STATES THAT WE WOULD BE SUSPENDING CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND DEVELOPMENT PERMITS FOR ANY LAND CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS OR PROPOSING A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY.
WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT WE FOUND AN ERROR IN THE MEMO AND WE ARE NOT WANTING TO CONSIDER ANY MORATORIUM ON LAND THAT IS ALREADY DESIGNATED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY FUTURE LAND USE OR ZONING.
WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, ESPECIALLY WITH US ALMOST DONE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH HAS BEEN AN EXTENSIVE JOURNEY WAY BACK IN 2019 FROM 2019 TO NOW.
MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION, I GUESS IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT COME BEFORE US AND SAY THEY WERE ALREADY APPROVED THIS YEAR, BUT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ISN'T FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS OR SO.
WILL THIS PUT A HINDER ON THAT SINCE THEY ALREADY GOT THE BALL ROLLING OR.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CITY ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
AS WE STATED, THERE IS NO ORDNANCE.
I MEAN, I TALKED TO YOU ALL AFTER YOU ALL BROUGHT THIS BACK AS FAR AS WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
I MEAN, ANY TYPE OF ANY MORATORIUM IS REQUIRED TO GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
SO YOU ALL CAN'T DO ANYTHING TONIGHT BUT PROVIDE DIRECTION.
SO IF YOU DIRECT THAT THIS IS WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DRAFT.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S MY THING. LIKE IF A IF A PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH, LIKE MY MY STANCE, AT LEAST IF A PROCESS HAS ALREADY BEEN I MEAN, A PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.
THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN INTO STAFF AND GOTTEN INTO THE WORKS.
I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AT I DON'T WANNA SAY AT FAULT BUT THEY THIS MORATORIUM SHOULDN'T FALL UNDER THEM SO THAT'S JUST MY STANCE.
NOW THEY'RE JUST COMING TO THE, YOU KNOW, FINAL PORTION OF IT.
SO SO THAT'S THAT'S MY STANCE.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION, PATRICIA? WOULD THAT REQUIRE WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT WHEN WE MAKE THIS PROPOSAL TO P AND Z AND WE BRING IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, THAT WE ALSO EXCLUDE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED APPROVAL ON PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY OR.
IS IT ALREADY ASSUMED THAT IT'S BROWN? YOU'RE ASKING POLICY QUESTIONS.
IF COUNCIL WANTS TO EXCLUDE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
I WILL DRAFT IT SO THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE EXCLUDED.
I HAVE NO PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THIS IS A SHORT DURATION AND MAKE SURE IT'S NOTICE AS FAR AS LEGALLY.
LIKE I TOLD YOU, I MEAN, IT'S SHORT DURATION.
THE ONLY TIME THAT THESE THINGS ARE REJECTED BY COURTS OR WHEN YOU HAVE A PROCESS PROBLEM WITH NOTICE FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS CASES WHERE COUNCIL SUE SPONSORS DECIDED TO DO THIS AND THERE WAS NO NOTICE.
IT NEVER WENT TO PLANNING, ZONING, OR IT DIDN'T GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
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IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOU ALL SET IN THE THE POLICY THERE IS.IF THE IDEA IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYBODY THAT ALREADY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY AS OF RIGHT, WHETHER YOU ALREADY HAVE THE CURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING OR YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE FIRST STEP AS FAR AS YOUR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ALLOWING THE TO ACTUAL FINALIZE IF YOU ESSENTIALLY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY AS OF RIGHT.
THIS GOES BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING I CAN DO THAT IS TELL ME WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
I'LL GET YOU THERE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
DEPUTY MAYOR, I THINK WHAT SHE JUST WORDED LASTLY IS EXACTLY WHERE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, MAYOR, BUT EXACTLY WHERE I WOULD WANT TO GO. WELL, WE GOT SPEAKER CARDS THAT WE MAKE.
SO FIRST UP, MIKE TIMMONS, I THINK HE LEFT.
RENTAL. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL.
RANDALL OLSZEWSKI 348 BROOK EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST.
I COME TO YOU AGAIN AS A HUMBLE CITIZEN.
THAT DOES ALSO HAPPEN TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
AND I IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MORATORIUM.
PLEASE HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY WRITE IT UP.
PLEASE HAVE THE STAFF GET IT FORWARD, GET IT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
LET'S GET IT THROUGH AND LET'S GET IT ENACTED.
WE ARE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
AND ALTHOUGH I CAN WALK INTO BUBBLE GUM, I'VE RUN.
I'M A RUNNER. RIGHT? I'VE RUN OUT FRONT HERE IN MALABAR ROAD EVERY MORNING AT 7 A.M.
YOU CAN WAVE HI TO ME IF YOU'RE AT CITY HALL.
BY THEN, I CAN'T RUN IN TO BUBBLE GUM.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, IN MY SERVICE TO THIS CITY, IN YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY, AND THESE FINE PEOPLE SERVICE TO THE CITY, EVERYBODY, MYSELF INCLUDED, IS SPRINTING, SPRINTING AND TRYING TO CHEW BUBBLEGUM AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S LIKE TRYING TO SNEEZE. WHEN YOU RUN, YOU EVER TRY TO SNEEZE WHILE YOU RUN? IT'S VERY HARD. IT'S VERY HARD.
WE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN AND WE HAVE TO PLAN AND WE HAVE TO LET THE PLANNING PROCESSES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE AND ALREADY COMMITTED TO TO COME TO FRUITION. I CAN'T COMPREHEND HOW MANY, NO PUN INTENDED, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS I'M ASKED TO LOOK AT EITHER AS A CITIZEN OR AS A HUMBLE SERVANT ON THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD.
WHEN I HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT HAD A HORIZON DATE OF 2011, THAT'S THE PLAN WE'RE UNDER.
AND IN 2022, COUNTLESS MEASURES, THE LAST MONTHS PAD, NOT LAST NIGHT'S LAST MONTHS.
WE DIDN'T GET THE AGENDA PACKET UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING.
I DON'T SAY THAT TO DEMERIT STAFF.
I WAS JUST INTRODUCED TO A SENIOR PLANNER AND A PLANNER TO AS THEY REFERRED TO HIM LAST NIGHT.
OKAY, GREAT. WE HAVE SOME NEW STAFF MEMBERS ON BOARD.
LET'S GET THESE STAFF MEMBERS ENGAGED.
LET'S GET THEM READING THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
LET'S GET THEM ENACTING THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
LET'S HAVE THEM WORK ON THAT VERY IMPORTANT WORK AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO HANDLE ALSO, I'LL CALL IT THE DISTRACTIONS OF THIS FLOOD OF PROJECTS. I REALLY WISH THAT ANYBODY UP HERE, WHETHER IT'S THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHETHER IT'S THE ENGINEERS THAT COME FORTH WITH THESE PROJECTS, THE LAWYERS, ESPECIALLY THE LAWYERS, WOULD JUST COME FOR A RIDE AROUND THIS GREAT CITY WITH HUMBLE CITIZEN RANDALL OLSZEWSKI.
I'LL TAKE YOU AROUND. IT'S GOING TO BE IN A FORD.
SO PLEASE LET US MOVE, FIND FRAME INTEREST.
SO PLEASE SHARE WITH US WHAT TIME FRAME YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT.
BUT LET'S HIT THAT PAUSE BUTTON.
LET'S CONTINUE TO SPRINT AS A TEAM ME, YOU, THE CITIZENS, THE STAFF.
BUT WE NEED THIS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW IN 2022.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
WHAT? WHAT MAKES THIS NECESSARY FROM A LOGISTICAL PERSPECTIVE WITH REGARDS TO COUNCIL.
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THAT IS TO SAY, YOU'VE APPROVED.VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT'S COME BEFORE YOU, INCLUDING TONIGHT.
AND THEN YOU END THE NIGHT ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM ON THE THINGS YOU SPEND ALL NIGHT APPROVING.
I BELIEVE I HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.
AND. ALSO, WOULD THIS REQUIRE A SECOND READING AFTER THAT PROJECTED AUGUST 18TH DATE, OR WOULD IT BE DONE IN? WOULD IT BE CAPABLE OF BEING DONE IN ONE MOTION? I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHEN IT WOULD START.
IT WAS FOR ABOUT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THANK YOU. THOSE TWO. THANK YOU.
ADAM, BRO. I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AS TO WHETHER IT NEEDS A SECOND READING.
AS FAR AS THE DATE THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE IT BE EFFECTIVE, IT WOULD BE THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS IN CERTAIN CASE LAW ALLOWS AND ONE OF THE THINGS AS FAR AS STAFF DISCUSSED WITH THEM WAS WHEN DO WE WANT TO HAVE IT START? AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS AT LEAST AT THAT TIME, CERTAINLY COUNCIL CAN WEIGH IN.
EITHER ADVERTISE OR AT PLANNING AND ZONING BE ABLE TO USE THAT AS A HOLD MEASURE SO LONG AS YOU'RE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH AND YOU MOVE IT FORTH AND WHICH WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AFTER IT GOES TO P AND Z, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW WHICH LAW HOS YOU WOULD HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD SEE YOU SAY, WE WANT TO DO A MORATORIUM, AND THERE IS A DELAY IN BETWEEN WHEN IT GOES TO PLANNING A ZONE WHICH IS REQUIRED TO AND GO TO COUNCIL AND THEN ALL OF THEM FLOOD IN TO GET THEIR APPLICATION IN. AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, RECOGNIZE IT COULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHOOSE THE DATE OF WHICH YOU'RE ADVERTISING IT OR YOU CAN USE JUST CHOOSE THE DATE WHEN PLANNING AND ZONING CONSIDERS IT TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY DECIDE THAT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THAT THAT'S THE DATE BY WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD ANYTHING CONTINGENT UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL.
SO, SO WHAT I'M READING IN THE IN THE MEMO IS THE GOAL IS TO PRESENT THIS TO PLANNING AND ZONING BY AUGUST 3RD AND WE'LL SEE IT AUGUST 818.
ULTIMATELY, THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THAT TIMELINE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
IN IN A POSITION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
RIGHT. THIS IS ALL PART OF THE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S THE BEST WAY I COULD ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, SIR.
WHO ELSE IS MOYA? MORNING, MR. MAYOR.
COUNCIL. I DON'T LIKE STAYING UP THIS LATE, BUT ANYWAY.
I'M HERE AS THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS CHAIRMAN FOR THE HOME BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION WITH OVER 300 MEMBERS REPRESENTING OVER 300 BUSINESSES THAT DO BUSINESS IN PALM PALM BAY, REPRESENTING THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES AND PEOPLE THAT RELY ON THIS INDUSTRY, WHAT WE CALL CONSTRUCTION AND HOME BUILDING, TRYING TO BUILD THE AMERICAN DREAM FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A HOME.
THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY IN OUR ORGANIZATION STANDS FOR.
WE WERE OPPOSED TO THIS MORATORIUM.
WE THINK IT'S COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.
THERE WAS A FEW PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE, ACTUALLY, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SPACE COAST AREA REALTORS THAT REPRESENTS THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS AND PROBABLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES THAT ALSO ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS MORATORIUM.
THEY DON'T SEE THE JUSTIFICATION.
WE REALLY DON'T SEE THE REASON.
I THINK BASED ON SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE SAW.
SO WE WILL BE WATCHING THIS EXTREMELY CLOSELY.
WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND LOOK AT THE EARLY DRAFTS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FAIR TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY INVESTED MONEY IN THE CITY AND EXPECT TO COME HERE AND DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY, THAT THEY DON'T GET HURT BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT COME TO YOU OR THEY MIGHT COME TO YOU AT A TIME WHERE THEY'VE SPENT TENS OF THOUSANDS, MAYBE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
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AND THEN NOW THEY'VE GOT TO WAIT SIX MONTHS BEFORE THEY CAN PROCEED.I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU GUYS WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
SO I DON'T SEE WHY YOU'RE REALLY I REALLY DON'T SEE THE REASON.
I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD A FEW REASONS.
MAYBE THEY MAKE SENSE, MAYBE THEY DON'T.
BUT WE WILL BE HERE TO LISTEN AND JUST KNOW THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE AGAINST THIS MORATORIUM.
MOST OF AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO BRING FORTH A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF PLANNING ZONING BOARD ON AUGUST THREE, 2022, FOLLOWED BY A REGULAR CITY MEETING ON AUGUST 18, 2022, WITH THE INTENT OF THE MORATORIUM TO BE EFFECTIVE AFTER THE DECISION MADE BY PLANNING AND ZONING.
SO WOULD YOU ALSO INCLUDE SOME OF THAT? THE PROFESSIONAL ASPECT THAT THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US, THE HOMEBUILDERS AND THE SPACE COAST AREA REALTORS.
WELL, I DIDN'T THINK THAT NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION, AS YOU GUYS WOULD.
WHAT I'M SORRY, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO MENTION TO DEPUTY MAYOR WAS JUST IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE IN THE MOTION THE TIME FRAME THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE TALKED ABOUT A SIX MONTH TIME FRAME FOR THE MORATORIUM, IF THAT'S PART OF THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GIVE US.
OKAY. WITH THAT. AND IT CAN CHANGE WHEN IT COMES TO US, YOU KNOW, SO SO I'LL INCLUDE SIX MONTHS.
SO SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WOULD BE DECEMBER.
SO JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR? YES, SIR. SO I GOT A MOTION.
DO I GET A SECOND? ALSO. COUNCILMAN.
FELIX. DID YOU SECOND THAT? YES, I DID.
SECOND FLOOR DISCUSSION. MOMMY, I GOT SOMETHING I WANT.
I'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL MEMBERS FROM BUILDERS AND PEOPLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
AND I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THAT.
I TRUST IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB AND, YOU KNOW, I TRUST IN WHAT THEY'LL DO AND IT STILL COMES BEFORE US, YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE WE CAN'T.
BROWN, FOR BRINGING THIS FORTH.
ALEX, YOU'RE DOING AMAZING JOB.
YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN HERE SINCE SEVEN IN THE MORNING.
YOU PROBABLY SAW HIM RUN AND THEN YOU SAW.
BUT. SO I'M OPEN TO COUNSEL'S DIALOG.
BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO FUND.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE PLACE TO FINE TUNE IT RIGHT HERE.
I THINK THE PLACE TO FINE TUNE IT IS WHEN IT COMES BACK BEFORE US.
SO SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, MAYOR.
SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX, YOU SECONDED THE MOTION YOU'RE TAKING? MAYOR THE ONLY THING I WOULD WANT TO ADD TO THAT AND I AGREE, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, PRESENT A FINISHED PRODUCT. BUT TO MR. MOYA'S POINT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE INVOLVE IS ONE IN THE VOLUNTEER WITH EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE.
I THINK IF WE CAN STAFF CAN WORK WITH THEM TO SOME DEGREE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BECAUSE MISINFORMATION SPREAD VERY, VERY QUICKLY, I'VE GOT I'VE RECEIVED CALLS THIS PAST WEEK WHERE, YOU KNOW, OH, WHAT IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY DOING? THEY STOPPING ALL CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS.
IT'S REALLY BEING RESPONSIBLE AS WE GROW.
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THAT'S THAT'S THE INTENT.AND AGAIN, SOMETIMES THERE'S UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAY I'M READY TO VOTE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
SMALL DEVELOPER, BIG DEVELOPER, SOMETHING THEY JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
WHAT IS IT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. A MORATORIUM.
SO WE HAVE WE HAVE MANY LOCAL BUSINESSES HERE WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT PALM BAY LOCAL FOLKS WHO DO THE LAND CLEARING, THE ENGINEERING, THE SITE PLAN, THE PLUMBING, THE ELECTRIC AND THE BUILDING ITSELF.
I'M NOT GOING TO PUT HIM OUT OF THE JOB.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO STAFF REGARDING A MORATORIUM.
THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF, NOT THE DEVELOPERS.
WE APPROVED THE 1400 HOMES DOWN SOUTH EAST PALM BAY, NEAR HERITAGE PARKWAY.
OH, THAT WOULD STRAIN OUR POLICE AND FIRE.
EVERY APPLICANT, EVERY PERSON HAS PROPERTY RIGHTS AND A RIGHT TO BE HEARD.
WE ARE THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKERS TO JUDGE IF THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE IN INHERITS WITH THE VOTER APPROVED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR AS STAFF PROVIDES THE REPORTS A RECOMMENDATION WHICH WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH.
THE END RESULT ERODES THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
THAT'S NOT HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS.
GOVERNMENT HAS ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO CARRY THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY.
THE PEOPLE LOOK TOWARDS ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN STAFF HAS IGNORED THEM.
IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS, STAFF REPORTS ON ZONING CHANGES HAVE GONE FROM 3 TO 5 PAGES TO OVER 100.
IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE, WE ARE ON A ROLL COUNCIL.
WE HAVE GOOD MOMENTUM ON OUR SIDE.
WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS OR EXAMINING STAFF REPORTS THOROUGHLY.
WE HAVE DENIED PROJECTS THAT ARE DEEMED INCONSISTENT.
A MORATORIUM NOW WILL COMPLETELY STALL THAT THAT MOMENTUM.
THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN A PART OF GREAT THINGS FOR OUR CITY.
BAYFRONT MIXED USE ZONING, FOR EXAMPLE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO NEW INITIATIVES SUCH AS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF CAN PERFORM THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, THE VISION 2040 PLAN, THE FUTURE SCHOOL PLACEMENTS FROM BP'S, THE FUTURE SITES OF PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND PERSONNEL, THE UPCOMING ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, THE FUTURE UTILITY PROJECTS AND THE PLACEMENT OF FUTURE PARKS.
AND WE CONTINUE TO HEAR AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO HEAR THE REQUESTS FOR REZONING.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN AGENDA.
LISTEN TO OUR POLICE CHIEF REGARDING THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS WHEN A REZONING OCCURS.
LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS WHO SHOW UP TO EVERY MEETING, PLEADING WITH COUNCIL TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, NOT BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR BACKYARD, BUT BECAUSE OF THE REASONS MENTIONED PRIOR. NAMELY, I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I FEEL A VIOLATION OF THE VOTER APPROVED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLY MAKES THE CITY LIABLE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
I'M ACTUALLY QUITE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION IS ON THIS.
I KNOW THE RESIDENTS WANT THIS, BUT ALL IT TELLS ME IS THAT THEY DON'T TRUST US.
FOR ME, THIS IS NOT A MORATORIUM.
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WE MESSED UP AND WE ALREADY OWNED UP TO IT.I ASK THIS COUNCIL TO DO ITS JOB THAT THE ELECTED PEOPLE ELECTED US TO DO AND WORK THE PROBLEM AS CITY COUNCIL WITH STAFF AND WITH RESIDENT INPUT, WE HAVE ALL THE HELP WE NEED. EVEN THOSE FOLKS IN RED SHIRTS WHO ARE WILLING TO OFFER THEIR ASSISTANCE.
NOTHING FURTHER, MAYOR. THANK YOU.
THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS IS.
ARE WE NOT GOING TO DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY? I'M DIRECTING THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER.
IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, WE DON'T DO THIS MORATORIUM AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY GOES AWAY.
NO, SIR. OUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT.
AND. AND I KIND OF KNEW HE WAS GOING TO SAY THAT.
LIKE I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.
THE FINANCIAL FUTURE, THE ECONOMY AND THE UNITED STATES DON'T LOOK GOOD RIGHT NOW.
AND THESE AND I THINK THE REAL ESTATE AND I MIGHT BE WRONG, MAYBE MR. MOYER COULD CORRECT ME.
THESE HOUSING PRICES ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.
AND I'VE BEEN GETTING PHONE CALLS EVERY.
DE. EVEN MY OWN MORTGAGE COMPANY WANT TO REFINANCE MY HOUSE.
FOR WHAT? THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP IS.
THESE PRICES ARE. ARE UNSUSTAINABLE.
I DON'T THINK THE HOUSES ARE WORTH THE PRICES THAT THEY'RE QUOTING ME.
WHEN THE BOTTOM FALLS OUT, WHICH I'M AFRAID IN 2023.
WE DON'T GET CONTROL OF THIS RECESSION.
IT'S NOT THE CITY COUNCIL FAULT.
WE CAN'T CONTROL A RECESSION OR DEPRESSION.
WE HAVE NO. BUT WE COULD BE RESPONSIBLE.
AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC.
BUT. BUT NOW PUTTING THEM HOUSES UP THERE, WE'RE GOING TO GET A TAX BREAK.
GOING INCREASE OUR TAX REVENUES SO WE COULD PAY FOR A FIRE STATION SO WE COULD GET POLICE OFFICERS.
YOU STOP BUILDING HOUSES SIX MONTHS DOWN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A YEAR BEHIND.
THERE'S A WAITING LIST FOR A I HAVE A COUSIN TRYING TO MOVE FROM ORLANDO TO PALM BAY.
AND THEY'RE BUILDING HOUSES LIKE CRAZY.
THERE'S A WAITING LIST, AND WE PUT A MORATORIUM ON THAT WAITING LIST.
THEY'RE GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM PALM BAY.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS LONG AND HARD.
I KEEP SAYING WE GOT TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME AND I DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN OUR GROWTH.
THE SPACE COAST REALLY DON'T LIKE IT.
BUILDING AGAINST IT IS A GOOD REASON WHY THEY'RE AGAINST IT.
BECAUSE THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T SEE.
AND RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT SEEING IF WE STOP OUR GROWTH, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO START IT BACK AGAIN.
AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE TAX BREAK? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET THE BUSINESS? YOU GOT TO. WE GOT A COMMERCIAL.
WE GOT TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE COMMERCIAL.
AND THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THAT COMMERCIAL.
AND WE APPROVED SOME COMMERCIAL ITEMS TODAY.
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AND WE LET ONE A BIG ONE GO.SO I JUST I DON'T KNOW, I THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS.
I WAS FOR IT AT THE BEGINNING.
AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO FLORIDA EVERY DAY AND THEY'RE CHOOSING PALM BAY.
AND WE SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT CHOOSING OUR CITY.
YES. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIRE FIRE STATIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS.
BUT THIS IS NOT A DANGEROUS CITY.
THIS IS NOT A CRIME RIDDEN CITY.
I COULD DRIVE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
AND NOW I HAVE TO CARRY MY FIREARM WITH ME.
BUILT. SO I JUST THINK WE DON'T NEED TO STOP.
SO AS FOR ME, IT YOU KNOW, YOU CALL IT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
IT'S THE THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION, RIGHT.
MASTER CHIEF BILL BENTON IS HAS HARPED ON THAT BECAUSE OF THE COMP PLAN.
WE SHOULD THAT CLASSIFICATION SHOULD BE UP.
SO I WOULD BE GOOD JUST WITH THAT PORTION OF IT.
RIGHT. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE THAT COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO MENTIONED.
AS I AS I CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS.
YOU KNOW, I. YOU CAN'T STOP THAT MOMENTUM YOU SPOKE OF.
IF YOU STOP THAT MOMENTUM TO FOR IT TO CONTINUE.
IT IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, AND I THINK WE'RE WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS EITHER.
IT'S THE ROLE CLASSIFICATION THAT HAD ME.
THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE DID COME UP AGAIN.
I WAS INITIALLY THINKING OF THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION.
AND THEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PRESENTATION WE HAD BUDGET WISE WHERE THE HOMES THAT WERE GETTING.
RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT ON THE TAX ROLLS THE VERY NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER VACUUM WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
WE SAW THE PRESENTATION WITH THE POLICE CHIEF WHERE YOU NO AMOUNT OF SWORN OFFICERS IS HERE AND THE RESIDENCE IS UP HERE.
OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO KEEP DOING THIS AND THIS AND THIS.
SO I TRUST IN THE STAFF IN THIS.
AND I'M. I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, BUT THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE BECAUSE I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT SUPPORT ITEMS BECAUSE OF WE'RE GROWING TOO FAST WHERE WE CAN'T ACCOMMODATE OUR POLICE AND FIRE OR NEED FIRE STATIONS, WE NEED POLICE STATIONS.
STAFF IS LISTENING TO ALL OF US.
HERE'S HERE'S AN OPTION, A TEMPORARY OPTION.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SAY, NO, WE NEVER MIND.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I SEE RIGHT HERE.
SO I'M I'M CONCERNED BY IT BECAUSE STAFF HAS BEEN LISTENING TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING AND WHAT DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SAYING AND CALL THEMSELVES BRINGING A SOLUTION TO US. AND THEN NOW WE'RE SAYING, NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT.
LET'S JUST PIECEMEAL, LET'S GO BACK TO PIECEMEAL, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT UP IN 2019.
WE NEED TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS BRINGING IT UP.
SO HERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FINAL STAGES OF FINALIZING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY DECEMBER.
CORRECT? THIS WILL BE OVER JANUARY, MAYBE EVEN SOONER.
AND THEN EVERYTHING I TRULY BELIEVE EVERYTHING WILL WILL SMOOTHLY TRANSITION.
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FILIBERTO MENTIONED, WE APPROVED THOUSAND HOUSES HERE, 1000 HOUSES THERE.SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS? THE HOUSE NOT GOING APPEALED.
NONE OF THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS FOR SOMEBODY TO LIVE.
THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE AND STILL LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN PALM BAY.
SO THIS IS THIS I'M I'M STUCK WITH MY WORDS BECAUSE I KNOW I KNOW STAFF IS LISTENING TO US.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY BROUGHT THIS UP THE WAY THEY DID.
AND IT'S COMING DOWN TO THIS POINT RIGHT HERE.
AND I'M STILL GOING TO BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE REALTORS, WITH MR. MOYA, EVERYBODY.
BUT AND MR. SHERMAN, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, FEEL FREE.
CHIEF ROGERS PRESENTING AS WELL AS.
CHIEF MOYA AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND I DIDN'T COME UP WITH THIS IDEA, BUT I LIKE IT FOR A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
SO WE CAN WE CAN ADDRESS SOME THINGS INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.
I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE COUNCIL JUST TO, YOU KNOW, TRUST IN STAFF AND TRUST IN THEIR ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH OTHERS ON FINALIZING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, GETTING US THERE.
AND HOUSES ARE STILL GOING TO BE BUILT LIKE THE AMOUNT OF PERMITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN.
IT'S ISN'T GOING TO STOP THAT.
SO HOUSES ARE STILL GOING TO BE BUILT.
AND I JUST I KNOW I'M TALKING A LOT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT TAKE US OFF THE MAP, BUT REALLY PUT US ON THE MAP AS A COUNCIL IS LOOKING INTO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR EVERYBODY.
STAN FAN? YEAH. NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT.
BUT I JUST, I JUST HAD TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL.
SO IT'S REALLY A IN SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR JUST SAID.
I SAID EARLIER I MISSED MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER BUT WITHIN A COUNCIL.
WHAT PRESENTS SOMETHING TO US.
THEIR POSITION. THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND IS SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO EVERY MAYOR.
I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE WE HAVE.
THEY HAVE TO BE MORE CLEAR AS TO WHAT IS IT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
ONE OF MY FIRST QUESTIONS TO CITY MANAGEMENT IS THAT IS THIS ALIGNING WITH ALL VISION 40 WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WE'LL ALL REFLECT, YOU KNOW, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVISION.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE, AGAIN, HOW WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THAT.
AS MUCH AS I BELIEVE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS, AS MUCH AS I WE WE WE ALL PRO GROWTH.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
WE'RE GETTING THE MESSAGE JUST ABOUT EVERY WEEK.
PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE NOW, PEOPLE ONLINE.
THIS DOESN'T STOP ALL CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE SEEM TO STRUGGLE WITH IT, SOME OF US.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M READY TO VOTE.
OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL ON THAT JUST IN CASE.
WELL, MY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO DE.
WE'RE NOW ON COUNSEL, REPORTS MR.
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FILIBERTO. UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST WANTED TO POINT MR.[COUNCIL REPORTS]
LOGAN LOOSE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.SO WE'RE GOING TO JULY 4TH OF THE JULY 4TH CELEBRATION HERE.
PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY SHOWED UP.
SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL FOR SHOWING UP AND PARTICIPATING IN OUR EVENT.
NO, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE, SIR, WHEN IT COMES TO PROCUREMENT.
OKAY. I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN IMPORTANT TO YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER GAVE A THUMBS UP.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT BOTH, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
YES, SIR. I HAVE A I HAVE A JOB.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DEPUTY MAYOR.
THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT, SIR? YES. THEY'RE NOTHING FURTHER.
THANKS FOR CONTINUING TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS LINE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL BE BRIEF.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO AN INITIATIVE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME FROM A FEW COLLEAGUES DOWN IN PORT LUCIE. THEY ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS IN THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH AREA.
THEY'VE HAD A SUCCESSFUL EVENT DOWN THERE.
THEY PRESENTED TO ME TO BRING IT UP HERE.
IT'S BEING HELD AT PECHANGA THIS SATURDAY FROM 2 TO 6.
WELL, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEND THAT TO ROSEMARY SO THAT WE GOT THE EXACT DATE AND TIME? I WILL DO THAT.
YEAH, WE'LL SHARE IT WITH CITY MANAGEMENT.
I'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT AS WELL.
NUMBER TWO, SOMETHING'S BEEN ON MY, MY, MY HEART FOR A WHILE.
I JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF STAFF WE HIRED.
LET'S LISTEN. LET'S NOT CHALLENGE THEM.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ASKING QUESTIONS, SOMETIMES PROVOKING QUESTIONS IN SOME SENSE.
BUT LET'S NOT CHALLENGE THEM IF THEY THEY'RE NOT GIVING US OPINIONS.
THEY'RE GIVING US THEY'RE QUOTING THE LAW.
THE DAY ON A DAY ON ALL THINGS WE ARE IN, WE'RE ON THE SAME TEAM.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE VOTERS VOTE FOR US.
LET'S LET'S NOT CHALLENGE THEM.
AND I'VE SEEN THAT GOING ON QUITE A FEW TIMES.
NOT JUST WHAT COUNSEL TO TO REALLY CONSIDER THAT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M PLEASED TO APPOINT MR. HARRY MORAN TO THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I THANK HIM FOR VOLUNTEER AND HIS SERVICE TO PALM BAY.
I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP IT REAL SHORT.
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STAFF IS ON. WE ON THE SAME TEAM.AND SOMETIMES I KNOW A LOT ABOUT TEAM.
BECAUSE I PARTICIPATED IN THE SERVICE, YOU KNOW, IN THE MILITARY.
IT'S TEAMWORK. SOMETIMES PLAYERS DON'T AGREE.
SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO THROW THE FASTBALL.
AND IT MIGHT BE THE WRONG DECISION BECAUSE IT MIGHT.
IF AARON JUDGE IS BATTING, IT MIGHT GO OUT THE PARK.
SO BUT THEY MADE THE DECISION.
I DON'T MEAN THE GAME IS OVER.
NOT THE PITCHER OR THE CATCHER.
IT'S THE MANAGER IN THE DUGOUT AND READ THE MANAGER.
SO WHETHER THERE'S THREE, THREE, ONE OR ONE LIKE IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE ZERO, YOU MADE THE FINAL CALL AND. AND MAYBE THIS MIGHT COME BACK AT A LATER TIME.
SO THAT'S MY FEELING AND THAT'S CONCLUDE MY REPORT.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT AS WELL.
BUT I WILL SAY, WHEN IT COMES TO ITEMS ON PUBLIC HEARING, I WILL BE BRINGING BACK UP THAT JULY 8TH, 2022.
WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A MORATORIUM TO LOOK AT SLOWING SOME THINGS DOWN, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M GOING TO HEAR WE CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE OF THIS OR WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE OF THAT. BUT STAFFERS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
OTHER THAN THAT, JUST ONE MORE TIME FOR MR. LARRY BRADLEY. I'M LOOKING OVER HERE LIKE HE'S HERE, WHICH HE YOU KNOW, HE MIGHT BE SO.
BUT MR. BRADLEY WAS AN ASSET TO THE CITY.
SO I JUST DEFINITELY WANT TO IN THIS YEAR, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANNIVERSARY, BUT IN THIS YEAR, MARK OF HIS PASSING, JUST GIVE KUDOS TO HIM AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGE HIS HIS DEDICATION TO THE CITY, SIR.
AND WHAT AN IMPACT IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT HE HAD WITH NOT ONLY COUNCIL, BUT SO MANY OTHERS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR CITY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. AND THAT CONCLUDES FOR ME.
THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.
AND I'M MOVING ON TO ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS.
MADAM SHERMAN. OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
I WAS GOING JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE WORKSHOP THAT YOU ALL ASKED US TO WORK TOWARD REGARDING POLICE, FIRE AND IMPACT FEES.SO JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE OF TIMING.
JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF WHETHER COUNCIL IS GOOD WITH THAT.
YES, MA'AM. I GUESS WE'LL BE BACK FROM OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS OUT THERE.
YES, SIR. WE DO IT REALLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH, IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN WAITING UNTIL LIKE OCTOBER TIME FRAME FOR A WORKSHOP ON THAT TOPIC? YEAH. BUT ISN'T COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO GOING TO BE WORKING THAT OUT? AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SUGGESTED BOTH.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IN OCTOBER THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITH WITH HIS INPUT? WHAT? GO AHEAD.
I'M SORRY. WELL, LET'S CLARIFY.
I WAS THINKING COUNCIL WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PREVIOUS WORKSHOPS ON THE TOPIC IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT LED US TO REMOVING THE LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE.
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I THINK THE POINT THAT WAS MADE, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT BIDS, YOU WILL LOOK AT RFP, YOU WILL LOOK AT EVERYTHING.AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ASPECTS TO IT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU CAN CRAFT IT.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
AND AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS IF OCTOBER WORKS FOR EVERYONE, I HOPE IS GOOD.
THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAYOR, THOUGH.
I KNOW THE DEPUTY MAYOR IS WORKING ON SOMETHING IN THE PIPELINE.
I BELIEVE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
I WONDER IF YOU WANT TO BRING THAT ISSUE UP AS WELL DURING THAT OCTOBER MEETING.
OH. PLANNING IS ONLY JUST PAST THAT.
SO WE'LL SEE IT SOON. ALL RIGHT.
ADAM. SURE. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU.
OKAY. WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, DEPUTY MAYOR ROBERT STICE, FOLLOWED BY NATHAN WHITE.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
AND ROBERTS IS 1796 WHEN BROOK DRIVE.I AM EXTRAORDINARILY DISAPPOINTED WITH REGARD TO THE NOT FOLLOWING UP WITH THE MORATORIUM.
WE ARE IN A RECESSION, MR. FOSTER, BUT WE'RE PRETTY HEALTHY HERE IN PALM BAY AND FLORIDA.
WE WERE SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT A PAUSE.
YOU UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY ISSUE.
MY MIND. YOUR DECISION TELLS ME THAT SAFETY IS NOT YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
YOU WANT THE TAX MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE PUTTING MY LIFE IN DANGER.
I'M NOT SAYING NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
THIS IS FLORIDA STORMS HAPPEN.
IF IT HITS THE FAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES TO BLAME.
AND I'M NOT NORMALLY DON'T TALK THIS WAY LIKE THIS.
WHEN YOU ROLL THE DICE ON WHERE I LIVE AND WHAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERY SINGLE DAY, I'M GOING ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE REAL ESTATE AGENTS THAT LIVE IN MY HOME.
WE'VE GONE FROM A BLISTERING HOT ECONOMY TO A VERY HOT ECONOMY.
SO DON'T SIT HERE, PLEASE, AND TELL ME AND INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE HOW BAD THINGS ARE.
I GO OUT TO AND DOING MEALS ON WHEELS.
THERE ARE LOTS GOING UP ALL THE TIME.
THEY'RE GOING CRAZY. WE'RE LOOKING AT A PAUSE.
THE PAUSE IS NOT GOING TO THROW THIS INDUSTRY, THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, OUT OF WHACK PEOPLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN JERSEY CITY.
PEOPLE IN THE TRI STATE AREA, NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY AND CONNECTICUT ARE BEGGING TO GET DOWN HERE.
YOU DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO STILL BEG TO GET DOWN HERE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW? THAT'S CRAZY. IT'S LUNACY.
YOU'RE ROLLING THE DICE ON MY SECURITY AND MY FAMILY SECURITY.
WHY THE HELL WOULD I WANT TO LIVE HERE? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS GUY SAYING, OH, IT'S GOING TO PUT BUILDERS OUT, THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON MATERIAL OUT HERE.
THEY'RE BEGGING FOR EMPLOYMENT FOR PEOPLE TO HELP.
WHAT THE HECK KIND OF A DECISION WAS THAT? I MEAN, IT'S AWFUL.
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SAFETY.
AND TO YOUR POINT HERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHIEF AND FIREMEN SAYING WE CAN'T GET THERE.
WE DESPERATELY NEED FIREHOUSES.
WAS IT NOT THE NUMBER WE'RE WORKING ON, TOO? AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNIT MANAGER OF A TEAM.
IT MANAGERS GET FIRED ALL THE TIME.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER THIS EVERY MORNING.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR, FOR STICKING TO YOUR GUNS.
YOU'RE OVER. WE ARE OVEREXTENDED.
WE GOT PEOPLE ON TOP OF PEOPLE IN.
IT'S IN THE SUBURBS, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE.
THANK YOU, NATHAN WHITE, FOLLOWED BY BUTCH AROUND.
NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.
IS NOT THE ANSWER TO THE SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE FACING.
ONE OF THE OTHER DEFINITIONS OF MORATORIUM.
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A LEGAL AUTHORIZATION TO DEBTORS TO POSTPONE PAYMENT.OWES A DEBT TO THIS CITY AS A COMMUNITY.
I WANTED TO BE SPECIFIC A DEBT OF RESPONSE TIME IN SOME CASES.
IS AN ODD WAY TO ADMIT THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS NOT SHOWN ENOUGH SELF-CONTROL.
IN. THEY'RE APPROVING OF VARIOUS PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENTS.
WE HEARD FROM A REALTOR TONIGHT.
SOME PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS MORATORIUM.
IT'S ALSO THE REASON SOME PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THIS MORATORIUM.
REALTORS DON'T WANT BUILDINGS TO STOP BECAUSE THEY SELL BUILDINGS.
BUT THEY ALSO DON'T WANT THIS COUNCIL TO KEEP DOING WHAT IT'S BEEN DOING BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BUY THOSE BUILDINGS FROM THE REALTORS WHEN THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THEIR BACKYARD TOMORROW.
BECAUSE THE COUNCIL REASONS RANDOM SELECTIONS OF THE CITY.
SO I'M SAYING OF ONE THING AND DOING THE OTHER.
DANGEROUS. BY SOME OF THE WORDS SPOKEN WHEN IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP, THE CONCEPT OF IT.
ONE OF THE QUOTES THAT WOULDN'T STOP RINGING IN MY EAR WAS.
I WERE SPEAKING ABOUT GROWTH AND THIS COUNCIL SPOKE.
IF WE CAN'T BENEFIT FROM IT, WE NEED TO STOP IT.
THAT CANNOT BE THE ATTITUDE OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
NOT IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING FOR FREE AND RUN OUT OF MONEY.
BUT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS CURRENT AND FUTURE WITH RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.
THIS WOULD PASS THE BUCK OF RESPONSIBILITY.
THANK YOU. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE IN.
PUT YOUR RENT TO 19 TRENTON DRIVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS NOTICED EARLIER, BUT I LEFT AND I COME BACK.
MR. FOSTER. I THINK THAT WAS DEAD WRONG, PULLING THAT FLAG FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL.
HE HAD IT. HE KNOWS WHAT HE DID IN HIS HEART.
THE MAYOR WAS TRYING TO HELP HIM HEAL.
WAS IT RIGHT? I DON'T THINK SO.
BUT TO TAKE THAT FLAG FROM HIM, IF HE ENDS UP COMMITTING SUICIDE, IT'S ON YOU.
I'M GOING TO PUT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT SOMEBODY THE ORDER FOR THE ORDER! ORDER! ORDER! ORDER! I WANT TO. YOU GOT A RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION.
I'VE GOT A RIGHT TO. THAT'S TOO BAD.
YOU CAN'T INTERRUPT. AND I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU.
YOU DON'T. COUNCILMAN FOSTER POINT OF ORDER.
ARE YOU DONE? MR. FOSTER, PLEASE. SORRY, MR. MAYOR. I'M SORRY.
BECAUSE DO ANY PROBLEMS OR HEARTACHE.
BUT I DO THINK YOUR DECISION WAS WRONG.
THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
EXCUSE ME. THE MORATORIUM GUYS WERE WRONG ON THAT, TOO.
LIKE, AS STEELMAN WAS TALKING, DRIVE UP AND DOWN THESE ROADS.
1:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT WORK.
TAKES 15 MINUTES TO GET FROM HERE TO 95.
GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH OUR TRAFFIC.
PHILIP CORCORAN, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT BURNS.
PHILLIP CORCORAN 1878 LYNBROOK DRIVE.
IT'S BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES TODAY.
WE ARE WORKING WITH AN OUTDATED, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE USE PLAN.
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I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON FOR OUR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON FOR TRYING TO PUT A STOP TO THE CRAZINESS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THIS CITY RIGHT NOW. SO THE FUTURE USE MAP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE ONLY THING WE CITIZENS HAVE BETWEEN US AND A DEVELOPER COMING IN AND PUTTING IN 350 HOMES.AND I'VE SEEN IT TOO MANY TIMES.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS NOW, WATCHING EVERY DEVELOPER.
I HAVE TO CREATE AN 85 PAGE DOCUMENT TO PREVENT THE DEVELOPMENT IN MY BACKYARD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY SET IN IN THE FUTURE USE PLAN AS ONE UNIT PER FIVE ACRES.
IT'S OUR ONLY PROTECTION, THE FUTURE USE PLAN AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THEY HAVE A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
WE NO LONGER HAVE A GOLF COURSE.
THE GOAL OF EVERY DEVELOPER IS TO JAM IN AS MANY HOMES AS POSSIBLE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU TREAT DEVELOPERS LIKE THEY'RE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES.
I CAN DRIVE DOWN EMERSON DRIVE AND I CAN TALK TO SIX BUILDERS JUST ON THAT ONE ROAD.
NOW I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN, FELIX AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I'M GOING TO CUT YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, BECAUSE YOU WERE SICK RECENTLY, BUT I SENT YOU A QUESTION ON THE FUTURE USE PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOING FORWARD.
AND WOULD YOU SUPPORT ONE UNIT PER FIVE ACRES? I SENT THIS LETTER TO YOU ON JUNE 13TH.
I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T GOT A REPLY.
I SENT ANOTHER ONE A COUPLE WEEKS LATER AND STILL NO REPLY.
THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY, THE PEOPLE OF BAYSIDE LAKES WOULD LIKE YOUR RESPONSE.
SAME QUESTION IS FOR COUNCILMAN FELIX.
SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ROBERT BURRIS.
MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, APOLOGIZE TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE.
THOSE IN ATTENDANCE FOR MY TONE EARLIER.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE MOST OF US ARE VERY IMPASSIONED ABOUT, AND EMOTIONS CAN CERTAINLY TAKE HOLD WHEN TALKING ABOUT SUCH THINGS.
SO IT'S NOT NORMALLY WITHIN MY BEHAVIOR TO BE SO AGGRESSIVE IN MY TONE.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THE PERSONAL STORY THAT I HAVE IS THAT I LANDED IN IRAQ ON 911 IN 2009.
THE FOLLOWING THERE WAS A PREACHER IN GAINESVILLE AT A CHURCH THAT DECIDED TO HAVE OR WAS GOING TO HAVE A KORAN BURNING PARTY, LIKE A BONFIRE WITH KORANS.
BUT THE IRAQIS THAT I WAS EMBEDDED WITH KNEW THAT I WAS FROM FLORIDA.
AND ALL THEY KNOW ABOUT FLORIDA IS THAT DISNEYWORLD IS HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IRAQ IS ABOUT 1.6 TIMES SMALLER THAN TEXAS.
SO THEY LOOK AT FLORIDA AS LIKE WE WOULD LOOK AT A CITY.
AND THESE ARE GUYS THAT I'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH FOR A YEAR AND I FELT LIKE I WAS ABOUT TO DIE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SHOWING ME ON THEIR PHONE AND THESE KIDS ARE LIKE 19, 20 YEARS OLD AND.
I'M LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW THIS GUY.
HE'S HE'S A, YOU KNOW, PIECE OF WHATEVER.
LET'S GET HIM. BUT BECAUSE OF HIS ACTIONS HERE THAT ARE PERFECTLY FINE FOR HIM TO TAKE HERE, IT'S HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT ARE AFFECTING US OVERSEAS. AND SO I THINK WE ALWAYS NEED TO CONSIDER THAT SOMETIMES THE ACTIONS WE TAKE HERE HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
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ELSEWHERE. AND I THINK AS LEADERS, WE ALWAYS NEED TO CONSIDER THAT IN OUR OFFICIAL CAPACITIES.AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S LISTENING STILL, BUT I WANTED TO COME HERE AND PUBLICLY ADDRESS HIM AS WELL.
LAST WEDNESDAY OR ON THE 29TH, WE HAD A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT PASSED AWAY.
AND IN REPORTING THAT NEWS, I USED LANGUAGE THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS SENSITIVE AS IT COULD BE, ESPECIALLY AND WORKING IN THE EXPERIENCES THAT I HAVE.
SOMETIMES WE LOSE SENSITIVITY TO THOSE IMPASSIONED MOMENTS, AND I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO HIM.
I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT RESPONDED TO THAT SCENE.
SO I WANTED TO COME AND CHECK AND LET THE CHIEF KNOW THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? MORNING, MR. MAYOR. MORNING, COUNSEL.
BROOKE EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST.
AND AS I TALKED TO YOU AT 130 IN THE MORNING, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU AN OPEN ENDED QUESTION.
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? CHAOS OR COMMUNITY? I'VE ASKED IT MULTIPLE TIMES.
I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I FEEL IN A STATE OF CHAOS.
I DO. THIS MEETING IS 130 IN THE MORNING.
WE'RE JUST FINALLY CONCLUDING OUR BUSINESS.
THE POLAR ENDS OF THE EMOTIONAL SPECTRUM, THE.
EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM NEEDS A BOOK ON ROBERT'S RULES.
THEY SELL ABBREVIATED VERSIONS.
YOU CAN READ IT, AND YOU CAN ALL COME TO UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORK.
I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU AS A COUNSEL IN THIS INTIMATE ENVIRONMENT.
I'M TALKING TO ALL OF YOU AS FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS, AS AS FELLOW MEN.
I LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
I LIVE SO I HEAR EVERY CALL STATION TWO MAKES.
I HEAR EVERY TIME THE POLICE LEAVES.
IF THEY HAD A BIG PRESENCE THEY NEED TO LOAD UP SWAT.
I'D HEAR THEM LEAVING. IF THEY NEEDED TO COME TO MY HOUSE, THEY'D BE THERE IN 30 SECONDS.
I LIVE TWO HOUSES AWAY FROM A FIRE HYDRANT.
I HAVE A HOUSE BEING BUILT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME BY D.R.
SO WHY THE HELL DO I COME HERE? WHY THE HELL DO I COME HERE AND SPEND SIX OR 7 HOURS A WEEK IN THIS CHAMBER? IF IT'S NOT WITH COMPANY OF YOU, IT'S ON THAT DIET.
SERVING MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR MY COMMUNITY.
I COULD LET THIS 130 BE THE LAST 130 I EVER DO.
I COULD GO RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
THANKFULLY, I CAN AFFORD MY MORTGAGE.
I CAN AFFORD THE RISE IN THE UTILITY RATES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'M PROUD OF MYSELF FOR PUTTING US IN THAT POSITION.
I THANK MY EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN A PART OF MY LIFE TO HELP ME GET TO THIS POSITION.
I AM DYING TO BE AN ADVOCATE IN MY COMMUNITY AND FIGHT FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES.
I NEED YOUR HELP, MR. MAYOR. I NEED YOU HELP.
PLEASE HELP ME HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE IN POSITION, SIMILAR POSITIONS AND COMFORT.
YOU'RE IN OTHER POSITIONS OF DISCOMFORT THAT I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
I DON'T LIVE ON FAR ENDS OF TOWN THAT HAVE LOGISTIC NIGHTMARES.
FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T PUT WORDS TOGETHER LIKE I CAN, I WANT TO DO IT FOR THEM.
AND I'M LEAVING TONIGHT AT 130 IN THE MORNING, AND I FEEL AS THOUGH I'M FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO MY PARTNERS ARE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GRABBING MY SHIRT AND HOLDING ME BACK AS I TRY TO TAKE THIS COMMUNITY FORWARD WITH WHOEVER IS WITH ME.
SO I ASK ALL OF YOU VERY SERIOUSLY, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME? AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE IT UP WITH ME OFFLINE AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.