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P.M.. SO LET'S BEGIN WITH OUR ROLL CALL.PRESENT CHAIR PERSON BYRD MEMBER LOOSE.
AND WE'RE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
NON AGENDA ITEMS AT THIS TIME.SO MY NAME IS LORRAINE CASIANO, AND I'M A NEW FLORIDA RESIDENT.
WELL, NEWER. SO I MOVED HERE LAST YEAR.
AND AS THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, I THINK YOUR THING IS THE ENVIRONMENT.
I'M NOT 100% SURE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T LEARNED EVERYTHING ABOUT PALM BAY YET.
BUT THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE.
WHEN THEY'RE CLEARING LOTS TO BUILD NEW HOUSES IN PALM BAY, THEY ARE TAKING DOWN EVERY LAST TREE AND PIECE OF VEGETATION AND IT'S EXTREMELY HARMFUL.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER TOWNS IN THE AREA THAT DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S LEGAL OR NOT, BUT THIS IS SORT OF A PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S LIKE A HOLOCAUST OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE ANIMALS, THE BUGS, THE BIRDS THAT EAT THE BUGS. AND THEN I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TOUCH ON HOW DO YOU SUPPORT IT ALL WITH POLICE, FIRE, EMERGENCY SCHOOLS? ROTHE WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE IDEA.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY SMART PEOPLE IN PALM BAY, AND I'M NOT THE SMARTEST ONE.
SO THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT IS MAYBE YOU COULD JUST HALT DEVELOPMENT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, SIT BACK FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND THINK ABOUT IT, AND TRY TO DEVELOP LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED TO MAYBE GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO JUST BREATHE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING'S JUST GETTING DESTROYED.
LIKE I DO FERTILIZE MY PLANTS, BUT I USE CRACKED CRAB SHELLS WHICH ARE FROM NATURE.
YOU COULD PLAN TO FROG FRUIT, WHICH GROWS THREE INCHES TALL AND NEVER NEEDS TO BE CUT.
SO THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR CUTTING.
SO IT GETS RID OF THE WORK AND IT ALSO GETS RID OF THE GAS AND LAWN MOWERS.
THE STUFF THAT THEY PUT ON NOW ARE ANEMIC AND FEW.
AND IF THE PEOPLE DON'T WATER THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO DIE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU COULD REQUIRE THEM TO BE NATIVE PLANTS, BECAUSE NATIVE PLANTS CAN SURVIVE IN THE NATIVE ENVIRONMENT AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE AS MUCH WATER AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE AS MUCH MAINTENANCE.
AND THEY JUST DO THEIR THING AND THEY'RE HAPPY.
ANOTHER THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER IS IF A PERSON IN THE FUTURE.
OKAY. YOU HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER QUARTER ACRE LOT.
IS THAT MY THREE MINUTE TIME CLOCK? AND I'LL STOP, AND I'LL THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE MY IDEAS WITH YOU.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO INQUIRE ABOUT THAT, WE DO NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US PLAN.
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BUT, UM, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED WE ARE WORKING TOWARD AND WE APPRECIATE YOU APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.AWAY. WE CAN GET YOUR PHONE NUMBER.
[PRESENTATIONS]
HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.SO IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, IS THERE ANY ANY INTRODUCTION THAT YOU CAN MAKE? YES, WE HAVE BRAD FONTAINE AND ADAM STARTING.
ALL RIGHT. SO GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
I'M BRAD FONTAINE AND THIS IS ADAM KLINGBERG AND WE ARE FLORIDA CUSTOM AQUATIC.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, WE BUILD WATER FEATURES.
BUT AS TRUE CONSERVATIONISTS TO HEART, WE'VE KIND OF PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND STARTED LOOKING INTO SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AS A COMPANY THAT WILL HELP OUT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS PRESENTATION IS ABOUT.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START AND WE'RE GOING TO JUST KIND OF TAG TEAM THIS PRESENTATION.
SO WHO ARE WE? I'M BRAD FONTAINE. I STARTED THIS COMPANY ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO.
EXACTLY. AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
I DID A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN FISHERIES MANAGEMENT FROM AUBURN UNIVERSITY AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN FISHERIES MANAGEMENT AND AQUACULTURE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS IN PINE BLUFF.
SO I WORKED CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS BUSINESS.
AND I STARTED THIS BUSINESS AS A SIDE BUSINESS AND UP UNTIL RECENTLY THIS WAS A SIDE BUSINESS.
NOW I'VE GONE FULL TIME, SO I'VE LEFT THE COMMISSION AND THAT'S WHERE I AM NOW.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GROW AND TAKE ON OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND EXPAND.
HELLO, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
LIKE BRAD SAID, MY NAME IS ADAM KLINENBERG.
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BRAD FOR FIVE YEARS.
I CURRENTLY WORK FULL TIME WITH THE BREVARD ZOO CONSERVATION, SO I CURRENTLY WORK FULL TIME WITH THE BREVARD ZOO'S CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT HELPING TO RESTORE THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. WE DO A LOT OF OYSTER CLAM SEAGRASS RESTORATION WORK, SO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, THE FLORIDA ENVIRONMENT IS MY PASSION.
OUR PASSION. AND I WORK WITH BRAD ON THE SIDE AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME NEW INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO GOOD FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, MOSTLY.
JUST ONE LITTLE QUICK BACKGROUND OF OUR COMPANY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN BUILD WATER FEATURES.
WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN CERTIFIED THROUGH OUR DISTRIBUTOR WHO IS AQUA SCAPE.
THEY'RE THE LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY AND THIS IS THE PROCESS FOR THAT IS KIND OF INVOLVED.
THERE'S PRETTY HIGH STANDARDS FOR CERTIFICATION.
YOU'VE GOT A DOCUMENT THAT YOU CAN USE THEIR PROCESS AND THEIR PRODUCTS.
AND ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF CONTINUING EDUCATION AS WELL.
THERE'S AN ANNUAL BASICALLY TRADE SHOW IN CHICAGO THAT WE'RE GOING UP TO IN THE MONTH.
SO AND THERE'S GOING TO BE ADVANCED.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE SLIDESHOW IS ONE OF THE ADVANCED AQUA SKATE BUILDS AND AND HOW IT RELATES TO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH SOME OF THESE STORMWATER RETENTION PONDS.
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SO YEAH, REAL BRIEFLY, WHAT WE DO IS NATURAL WATER FEATURES THAT COULD BE LIKE KOI PONDS, WATER GARDENS, PONDS, WATERFALLS ARE ANOTHER POPULAR OPTION FOR LESS MAINTENANCE.AND WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE IDEAS THAT THAT WE HAVE AND WE'VE IMPLEMENTED ALREADY.
RECREATIONAL SWIMMING PONDS IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF COMING AROUND PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVILY NOW.
IT'S THE CHEMICALS AND CHLORINE FROM FROM POOLS, NATURAL OR TRADITIONAL POOLS ARE JUST BECOMING KIND OF AN ISSUE FOR PEOPLE.
THERE'S NO CHEMICALS INVOLVED, WHICH IS NICE.
AND THEN WE ALSO DO POND AND LAKE MANAGEMENT, AND THAT INCLUDES AERATION SYSTEMS, FOUNTAINS, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP CIRCULATE THE WATER AND AQUATIC WEED CONTROL.
WE WON'T GO INTO THIS TOO MUCH, BUT ECOSYSTEM PONDS IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO.
IT'S KIND OF OUR BREAD AND BUTTER.
THE COMPONENTS OF THESE ECOSYSTEM PONDS IS REALLY THE FILTRATION.
SO ALL OF THESE HAVE A SKIMMER.
BASICALLY A MECHANICAL FILTRATION.
SO ANY DEBRIS LEAVES THIS WAY, STUFF LIKE THAT THAT GETS CAUGHT UP IN THAT SKIMMER.
WE CAN REMOVE THAT FROM THE SYSTEM.
THIS WILL APPLY TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LATER.
SO AND THEN THE BIOLOGICAL FILTRATION HAPPENS MOSTLY UP HERE IN THIS.
THE ROCKS AND GRAVEL ARE ALSO ACTUALLY PRETTY HELPFUL BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF SURFACE AREA FOR THIS BENEFICIAL BACTERIA HELPS CONVERT BULK AND THINGS LIKE THAT USABLE NUTRIENTS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SO.
JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF SOME OF OUR PONDS AND WATERFALLS.
BUT ASIDE FROM THESE ECOSYSTEM PONDS AND WATER FEATURES THAT WE LIKE TO BUILD FOR PEOPLE, WE STARTED KIND OF WRACKING OUR BRAINS AND LOOKING AT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT.
SUSTAINABLE WATER FEATURES AS FAR AS COLLECTING RAINWATER.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
YEAH. SO RAINWATER HARVESTING IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HELPING PROTECT FLORIDA ECOSYSTEM, BEING ABLE TO COLLECT WATER ON SITE WHERE IT FALLS AND TREAT IT BY INFILTRATING IT INTO THE GROUNDWATER BEFORE IT RUNS ONTO THE STREET OR RUNS OFF INTO A NEAR BODY OF WATER IS A VERY EASY WAY TO HELP REDUCE YOUR IMPACT ON THE AQUATIC ECOSYSTEM IN FLORIDA.
SO YOU ARE CREATING A BASIN IN THE GROUND AND THEN USING LARGE BLOCKS, PLASTIC BLOCKS THAT ACTUALLY CREATE A STRUCTURAL VOID SPACE IN THE GROUND THAT WILL HOLD THE WATER.
SO AS YOU'RE STORING THE WATER, AN IMPORTANT PART OF RAINWATER STORAGE IS INFILTRATING IT.
SO YOUR SYSTEM HAS THE ABILITY TO HOLD MORE WATER THE NEXT TIME WHEN IT RAINS.
IF YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE A FULL RAIN BARREL, THEN IT'S NOT TRULY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF NUTRIENTS AND THE RUNOFF BECAUSE IT'S JUST OVERFLOWING AND THEN TRAVELING DOWN DOWN THE ROAD.
SO BY INFILTRATING WATER WHEN THE SYSTEM, WHEN IT'S NOT RAINING, WILL ACTUALLY HELP IT INFILTRATE INTO THE AQUIFER, INTO THE GROUNDWATER AND REDUCE THE WATER RUNOFF INTO INTO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
SO THE SYSTEM THAT AQUA SCAPE HAS DEVELOPED IS VERY EFFECTIVE AT CAPTURING RAINWATER AND INFILTRATING RAINWATER IN ORDER TO TRULY HELP REDUCE THE LOADING ON THE CITY.
THE CITY IS USUALLY USUALLY BUYS PROPERTIES THAT THEY CAN USE FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
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ALSO, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HAVING TO CAPTURE AND TREAT AS MUCH STORMWATER AS THEY WOULD.SO IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER HAS THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE RAINWATER AND STORE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RAINWATER, IT WOULD SAVE THE CITY MONEY AND IN THE LONG RUN AND BE ABLE TO REALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF THAT'S MAKING IT INTO THE SURFACE LAKES, PONDS, INDIAN RIVER LAGOON BY INFILTRATING THAT WATER INTO INTO THE AQUIFER. ONE ONE.
TWO THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT ABOUT THIS.
THIS PICTURE AND THIS SYSTEM ARE THE BARRELS THAT PEOPLE USE ARE GREAT, THEY'RE HOMEOWNER FRIENDLY.
BUT THE WAY THAT THESE SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED, YOU CAN MAKE IT 50 GALLONS OR 5000 GALLONS.
SO WE CAN HOLD A LOT OF WATER, DEPENDING ON HOW WIDE AND DEEP OF A SPACE THAT WE HAVE.
I MEAN, IT'S UNDER THE GROUND.
NO ONE KNOWS IT'S THERE. AND WE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD A WATER FEATURE ON TOP OF IT, LIKE A LITTLE WATERFALL LIKE WE HAVE HERE THAT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS AT ERROR RATES THAT WATER, IT EXPOSES IT TO THE AIR THAT HAVE BECOME STAGNANT UNDER THE WATER I'M SORRY, UNDER THE GROUND.
SO AND ONE MORE THING ALSO, THE THE AQUA BLOCKS THAT ARE THE MAIN STRUCTURE OF THESE RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO BE USED UNDERNEATH OF PERMEABLE PAVER PATIOS THAT CAN BE USED UNDER PARKING LOTS SO THEY CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO PERMEABLE, PERMEABLE SURFACES, SURFACES YOU MAY DRIVE ON IN YOUR DRIVEWAY, THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO THEY'RE VERY, VERY STRONG AND ABLE TO BE INCORPORATED INTO COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS AS WELL.
SO. AND IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S EXPOSURE TO THE AIR HELPS PROMOTE THAT GOOD BACTERIA.
SO JUST ANOTHER OPTION AND JUST SOMETHING THAT.
BUT. SO MOVING ON FROM RAINWATER HARVESTING IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LOT LATELY IS THE STORMWATER RETENTION PONDS.
SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT CARRIES THAT NUTRIENT RICH WATER WITH IT.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF AN ALGAE BLOOM POND.
THESE ARE PRETTY COMMON. WE SEE A LOT OF THESE EVERY SUMMER.
WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE WETLAND FILTRATION.
SO THIS IS YOU THINK ABOUT WETLANDS IN A NATURAL SENSE.
THEY'RE KIND OF CALLED THE KIDNEYS OF THE EARTH BECAUSE THEY FILTER ALL THE WATER BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE SYSTEMS. SO THIS IS A CONSTRUCTED WETLAND.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING THIS WETLAND.
THEN IT GOES UP THROUGH THOSE BLOCKS, WHICH IS JUST A STORAGE CHAMBER.
THEN IT GOES THROUGH A SERIES OF DIFFERENT SIZED GRAVELS ROCKS AND GRAVEL.
AND THAT'S ALL FILTER MEDIA, THAT'S ALL.
IT'S ALL LIKE BIOLOGICAL FILTRATION MEDIA.
THAT WATER IS PASSING EVENLY OVER IT AND SPILLING OVER INTO THE POND.
SO THERE IS SOME MAINTENANCE INVOLVED.
THESE WILL HAVE TO BE CLEANED OUT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT THIS THIS SNORKEL ALLOWS US TO ACCESS THAT VERY EASILY.
AND THEN THIS CENTIPEDE MODULE, AGAIN, IT'S JUST SPREADS THAT WATER EVENLY.
EACH ONE OF THESE HOLDS 32 GALLONS OF WATER.
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THESE ARE ALL ALIGNED WITH THE 45 MILLIMETER EPDM LINER.SO IT'S A VERY THICK, FLEXIBLE, STRONG LINER.
SO AS YOU PULL WATER OUT OF THE RETENTION POND OR OUT OF THE WATER FEATURE, IT'S PUMPED UP THROUGH THE BOTTOM AND IT'S ALL CONTAINED WITHIN THAT LINER AND THEN OVERFLOWS BACK IN INTO THE POND OR WATER FEATURE AFTER IT'S BEEN EXPOSED TO THAT FILTER MEDIA AND THE BIOLOGICAL BACTERIA THAT HELPS BREAK DOWN THE NITROGENOUS WASTE AND HELPS REMOVE NITROGEN WHEN YOU'RE USING BIOLOGICAL FILTRATION.
THE IDEA IS THAT THE NITROGEN IN THE WATER WILL ACTUALLY BE TURNED INTO GAS.
SO THOSE BACTERIA CONVERT THE NITROGEN, THE FORM OF NITROGEN THAT'S DISSOLVED IN THE WATER TO NITROGEN GAS WHICH BUBBLES OUT AND REMOVES THAT NUTRIENT FROM THE SYSTEM.
AND NITROGEN IS ONE OF THE NUTRIENTS THAT HELPS FEED ALGAE AND ALGAL BLOOMS. IT'S ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS OF FERTILIZER.
SO REMOVING THAT NITROGEN FROM THE SYSTEM BEFORE IT'S ABLE TO OVERFLOW OUT INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IS THE MAIN FOCUS OF THESE SYSTEMS TO HELP CLEAN THAT WATER BEFORE A NEXT RAIN EVENT COMES.
AND ANOTHER BENEFIT OF THIS IS IT'S NOT JUST A FILTER THAT WE PUT ON THE SIDE OF A RETENTION POND.
WE CAN FROM THE OVERFLOW OF THIS, WE CAN CREATE A NICE STREAM EFFECT OR A WATERFALL.
SO IT'S ALSO AN ESTHETIC BENEFIT.
AND SO THIS IS JUST A LITTLE VIDEO.
I'D HAVE TO. THE CONFLICT WAS OVER IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR THAT WE PUT IN PLACE BY.
THAT DOING IS SETTING THE WATER LEVEL WHERE WE NEEDED TO BREAK THE CYCLE AND PUTTING.
AND THIS IS THE SITE OF OUR PANDEMONIUM OF 2014 ADVANCES IN BILL, JAMES AND TOM.
IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE WEEKS NOW SINCE WE'RE HERE AND EVERYTHING LOOKS SPECTACULAR.
THIS IS THE HEART OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AS MORE PUMPS ARE LOCATED.
SO THIS IS THE WORKHORSE THAT'S MAKING THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM FUNCTION.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE ALL OF OUR WANTS OUT OF THE WORLD.
WE ALSO ARE PUMPED FULL THROTTLE HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THEM STILL KIND OF VISIBLE.
WE HAVE A BIG CONCRETE HOUSE OVER ON THE FRONT HERE.
THAT WOULD BE THE GEAR THAT WE PUT IN PLACE.
NOT ALL THAT DEBRIS GOES ON THE SURFACE GOT SUCKED RIGHT INTO THIS INTAKE.
AND THIS IS JUST DOING A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE SURFACE CLEAR FORCE FROM ALL OF THIS DEBRIS.
I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF AS IT STUCK IN YOUR STEAMER.
THIS IS JUST LIKE ONE OF OUR SMALLER PONDS.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS STUFF IS WE WANT TO CATCH IT NOW.
WHAT WE HAVE IS OUR OFF THE BLOCK SYSTEM.
OUR WATER IS FLOWING UP THROUGH THE LAYER OF ROCKS, GOING THROUGH ALL THE LAYERS OF GRAVEL.
THEN WE HAVE ALL OF OUR 5.7 GRAMS. PLANTS HAVE NOT BECOME STABLE YET.
SO WE'RE WORKING FROM THOSE ROOTS HERE DOWN INSIDE THE PROBABLY OURSELVES.
THEY'RE GOING TO FILTER BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER AS TIME GOES ON.
SO THE HIGH IS ONE ACTIVITY INSIDE OF THE SYSTEM IS SUCKING THE TOP OXYGEN OUT OF THE WATER.
IT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP WITH THE CIRCULATION OF THIS POND, FAR WESTERN EDGE OF THE POND.
THIS IS WHERE THE JETS ARE LOCATED.
WHAT WE HAVE IS THE PIPING SYSTEM RUN ALONG THE PERIMETER.
THERE ARE A SERIES OF JETS EVERY 20 FEET.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH ALL OF THAT DEBRIS OR SKIMMER SYSTEM ON THE FAR EASTERN EDGE OF THE PARKS, JUST LIKE OUR SMALL PONDS, ALL ABOUT CIRCULATION IN THAT SPOT OVER HERE.
THIS IS WHERE ALL OF THAT STUFF WAS ACCUMULATING.
WATER IS COMPLETE AND IT LOOKS AWESOME.
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FOR EVERYBODY. I HOPE YOU'RE ENJOYING THIS PROJECT SHOWCASE.SEE YOU NEXT TIME. THAT WAS JUST A LITTLE QUICK VIDEO THAT HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO TRY HERE AND SOME OF THESE RETENTION PONDS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO REALLY DO IS GET SOME RESEARCH BEHIND IT.
I'VE GOT A SCIENCE BACKGROUND.
AND THEN WE CONSTRUCT THESE WETLAND FILTERS AND MONITOR THE WATER QUALITY THROUGH TIME.
AND ESSENTIALLY, BASICALLY WHAT I JUST SAID, IT APPLIES ACROSS THE COUNTY.
A LOT OF STORMWATER PONDS ARE CONSTRUCTED ON A 45 DEGREE ANGLE.
IT'S VERY COMMON IN THE ENGINEERING FIELD.
SO WETLANDS GENERALLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS VERY FLAT.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE FLAT, SHALLOW GRADE AREAS WHERE YOU CAN REALLY ESTABLISH A HEALTHY PLANT POPULATION LIKE YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS INCORPORATING NATIVE VEGETATION INTO THESE RETENTION PONDS IS THAT BRINGS NATIVE INSECTS, BRINGS BIRDS, AMPHIBIANS, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT RELIES ON THOSE ECOSYSTEMS. ALSO, IT ALL STARTS WITH THE NATIVE PLANTS.
SO BEING ABLE TO REGRADE RETENTION PONDS CREATE PLANTED ZONES THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO HELP CAPTURE RUNOFF, CAPTURE WATER TRAP DEBRIS THAT BEFORE IT MAKES IT INTO THE ECOSYSTEMS ALSO, AS OPPOSED TO CUTTING GRASS RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE OF THE RETENTION PONDS.
SO JUST SOME OF THE POTENTIAL HURDLES THAT WE'RE ENCOUNTERING WITH THIS IS PERMITTING HURDLES.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WHO IS THE AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR PERMITTING OF RETENTION PONDS? STORMWATER RETENTION PONDS.
AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME HEADWAY THERE BEING MADE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THAT WILL WORK OUT WELL.
THE COSTS IS ANOTHER BIG FACTOR.
SO LOOKING AT FUNDING OPTIONS, GRANTS WAYS TO OFFSET THE COSTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IS THAT IF WE CAN.
YOU CAN IMPROVE THE FILTERING CAPACITY OF THESE PONDS AND MAKE THE FOOTPRINT SMALLER.
WE'RE IN THE FIELD EVERY DAY AND LOOKING AT THE SHORELINES THAT EXIST ON THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
REVPAR IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDED THAT GREATLY REDUCE THE ECOSYSTEM FUNCTION OF THE SHORELINE.
SO SHORELINES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR HABITAT.
HUNDREDS OF SPECIES THAT LIVE IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON USE MANGROVE HABITAT AND OYSTER HABITAT TO AS PART OF THEIR REPRODUCTION CYCLES AS FEEDING GROUNDS, AS NURSERY GROUNDS.
THAT WATER THAT'S COMING DOWN IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND TRYING TO RECREATE A MORE NATURAL SHORELINE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO CREATING SOMEWHAT OF A HYBRIDIZED SHORELINE.
SO PUTTING A ROCK YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, PLACING BOULDERS AND THEN PLACING AND THEN USING FLAT TERRACED AREAS WHERE WE CAN INCORPORATE NATIVE VEGETATION AT DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS, MANGROVE, THEN SOME DIFFERENT GRASSES AND FLOWERING SPECIES ON THE UPPER LEVELS THAT WILL HELP BUFFER RUNOFF IN THESE AREAS
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ALSO ACT AS BIO SOIL.SO WHEN YOU HAVE WATER RUNNING IN THEM, YOU CAN CONSTRUCT THEM IN A BIO SWALE TYPE OF SLOPE SO THAT THEY MAY RETAIN WATER AND THEN AFTER IT FILLS, IT'LL OVERFLOW INTO THE LOWER SECTIONS SO THAT YOU GET SOME LEVEL OF STORMWATER RETENTION IN THOSE SHORELINES ALSO.
AND EVEN AS SIMPLE AS CREATING A BUFFER ZONE LIKE THIS PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, THEY STILL HAVE A RIP WRAP SHORELINE, BUT THEY HAVE PLANTED IT WITH A NATIVE GROUND COVER THAT WILL ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFERING.
SO INSTEAD OF MOWING YOUR GRASS RIGHT UP TO THE SHORELINE, IT CREATES A NATURAL BUFFER.
SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN CONSTRUCT SHORELINES IN ORDER TO HELP PROTECT THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, BUT ALSO CREATE A REALLY STRONG STRUCTURAL SHORELINE FOR MORE STABILITY ALSO.
SO I KNOW THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST IN JUST A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL, JUST FEEL FREE TO ASK.
WE CAN ALSO TAKE EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS AND ALSO WANTED TO ECHO HER SENTIMENT.
KRISTEN WAS VERY HELPFUL IN GETTING US HERE AND GETTING IT ALL SET UP.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? SNYDER NO IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS, THOUGH.
I DO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL BACK.
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME AND COME HERE TONIGHT.
SO, LIKE NOW I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO YOU JUST TALK LONG ENOUGH AND THINGS POP IN YOUR BRAIN.
SO IS YOUR GOAL TO PARTNER WITH CITY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO TAKE ON PROJECTS IN THIS? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M VERY CLEAR ON WHAT YOUR GOAL IS.
YES. YEAH. SO TRADITIONALLY WE OFFERED BASICALLY JUST DECORATIVE WATER FEATURES, BUT BETWEEN THE RAINWATER HARVESTING, THE NATURAL SHORELINE CONSTRUCTION AND THE STORMWATER FILTERING MECHANISMS, ANY OR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS WE FEEL COULD IMPACT THE LAGOON IN A POSITIVE WAY.
AND JUST OUR OUR ENVIRONMENT IN GENERAL.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER WITH CITIES, COUNTIES.
MAYBE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS FULLY CLEAR ON THAT.
YES, ABSOLUTELY. ALONG WITH WORKING WITH RESIDENTS ALSO WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PROJECTS.
THE COST THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, 55,000 PLUS, IS THAT FOR A LIKE A RETENTION POND SIZED PROJECT OR WHAT IS LIKE THE HOMEOWNER SIZED PROJECT IN REPLACEMENT FOR A RAIN BARREL ON A RESIDENTIAL HOME? WHAT KIND OF COST IS THAT? SO THE RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS ARE VARIABLE IN SIZE, RIGHT? WE CAN MAKE THEM A SMALLER AS LARGE AS WE HAVE THE SPACE FOR, SO IT CAN REALLY RANGE FROM.
UP INTO THE TWENTIES AND THIRTIES, KIND OF LIKE THAT RANGE.
SO JUST MOVING AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL.
BUT ON THE LARGER LEVEL WITH THE RETENTION PONDS, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE COST TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THE FILTERS, I'M ASSUMING YOU SAID EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAVE TO BE CLEANED OUT.
WHAT'S THE MAINTENANCE LIKE ON THOSE? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TRAINED FOR.
IT COULD BE HIRED OUT. I MEAN, WE CAN DO IT.
THERE'S OTHER COMPANIES THAT CAN DO IT AND IT ALSO CAN BE TRAINED.
IT'S JUST PROBABLY ABOUT A DAY OR TWO OF LABOR.
SO IT'S IT'S AN AROUND 2 TO 5000 TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT PER YEAR.
WHAT'S THE LIFESPAN OF THOSE SYSTEMS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MECHANISM THAT WOULD FAIL FIRST.
AND THE BIGGEST DETERRENT FOR THESE LINERS IS UV LIGHT.
AND SO IF THEY DON'T GET THAT, THEY'RE ALL THAT LINER IS COVERED UP BY ROCK AND GRAVEL.
THEY LAST INTO THE THIRTIES AND FORTIES YEARS.
BASED ON ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
IT. THESE ARE ELECTRIC POWERED PUMPS.
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IS THAT RIGHT? THEY ARE, YEAH.SO THE PUMP WOULD BE EXTERNAL.
THERE'S A PUMP SITTING DOWN IN THERE.
DO YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE THAT SOLAR CORRECT? PROBABLY NOT YET.
WE'VE HAD THIS QUESTION ASK QUITE A BIT.
JUST THE THE VOLUME OF WATER THAT THESE PUMPS NEED TO MOVE IS PRETTY HIGH.
SO WE HAVE JUST BEEN INSTALLING ELECTRIC PUMPS ON SMALLER SYSTEMS. THE SOLAR PUMPS CAN BE USED TO POWER THEM, BUT ON THE LARGER PUMPS, ON RETENTION PONDS, THEY USE TOO MUCH ELECTRICITY.
THERE IS I DEPENDING ON EVERY EVERY APPLICATION IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
THE KIND OF GOAL IS YOU WANT TO HAVE 3000 GALLONS PER HOUR PER SECTION OF THAT WETLAND FILTER.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE PROJECT SPECIFIC, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A WAY TO TELL ESTIMATE WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE OR IT'S SIMILAR SIZE TO A POOL PUMP, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
SO WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN TRYING TO PRESENT SOME OF THE NEWER IDEAS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PRESENTATIONS.
BUT THROUGH WORK WE'VE TALKED TO TALKED WITH THE COUNTY OF BREVARD COUNTY NATURAL RESOURCES, A LITTLE BIT CITY SATELLITE BEACH, CITY OF CAPE CANAVERAL, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO DO A FORMAL PRESENTATION.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE THE FIRST FOR THE FORMAL PRESENTATION.
IF IT'S JUST A. THE EXPERIMENT THAT WE CONDUCT, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SCIENTISTS.
BUT HAVING IT PEER REVIEWED, PUBLISHED WOULD BE A LOT, A LOT MORE BENEFICIAL.
I, I WAS WONDERING IF THEY IF YOU INSTALLED AT TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM, IDEALLY THAT WOULD HELP A LOT, ESPECIALLY WITH PROPERTIES RIGHT ON THE LAGOON ON BOTH SIDES OF THE INDIAN RIVER. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THESE PERMITTING AGENCIES FOR THE RETENTION PONDS AT ST JOHN'S RIVER FOR THE SEAWALLS.
SO WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM NOW.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE HURDLES THAT WE MENTIONED AND.
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SMALL SCALE SYSTEM.SO AND THERE'S BEEN SMALLER TAX INCENTIVES FOR RAINWATER COLLECTION TOO.
I THINK THE CITY OF MELBOURNE DID SOME TYPE OF RAIN BARREL PROGRAM AND IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CAPTURE RAINWATER, I'M SURE THERE COULD BE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS DONE THAT SHOWS IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER CAPTURED AND INFILTRATED 100 GALLONS OF WATER DURING AN INDIVIDUAL STORM EVENT, HOW MUCH STRESS THAT WOULD TAKE OFF THE CITY'S STORMWATER SYSTEM, TOO? SO I THINK THE COST OF THESE SYSTEMS COULD BE WRITTEN OFF THROUGH A THROUGH A TAX PROGRAM OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CAPTURE AND INFILTRATE RAINWATER. I, I HAVE TWO RAIN BARRELS AND ONE OF THEM IS SET TO DRAIN FILTRATION IN AND AROUND THE OAK TREE IN OUR YARD WITH SOME NATIVE PLANTS AROUND IT.
YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL, I CAN EMPTY IT BY HAND INTO DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE YARD THAT ARE KIND OF TOO DISTANT FOR IT TO DRAIN NATURALLY TO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ELEVATION CHANGE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE MAY THROUGH OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, IT'S JUST FULL.
AND EXPECT YOU TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND DRAIN IT.
I'M LIKE, IS IT GOING TO RAIN TOMORROW? EVEN IN THE WINTER, IT'S GOING TO RAIN TOMORROW.
SHOULD I GO EMPTY IT OUT NOW OR.
YEAH. YES, I'M OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, 3 HOURS BEFORE IT'S ABOUT TO RAIN TRYING TO WATER STUFF.
YEAH. THAT'S WHERE THOSE THAT SUMP PUMP REALLY WOULD COME INTO PLAY.
SO YOU CAN REALLY, REALLY HELP SLOWLY PERCOLATE THAT WATER OVER TIME.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT INCORPORATING DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING TECHNIQUES, TOO.
WE'RE BOTH INTERESTED IN LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ALSO.
SO LANDSCAPING YOUR YARD IN A WAY THAT SLOWS RAINWATER DOWN IF WATER IS LEAVING A GUTTER, PUTTING IT INTO DIFFERENT SOIL SYSTEMS, HEAVILY MULCHING SWALES MULCH IS REALLY EFFECTIVE AT CAPTURING RAINWATER TOO, BECAUSE IT ABSORBS SO MUCH RAINWATER.
SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BARREL THAT CAPTURES WATER, IF YOU CAN DIRECT WATER INTO A RAIN GARDEN, INTO A NATURAL WATER FEATURE, AND THEN THAT OVERFLOWS INTO A SOIL SYSTEM WITH MULCH, MULCH IS REALLY EFFECTIVE AT ABSORBING AND SLOWING DOWN RAINWATER ALSO.
SO YOU CAN CAPTURE MORE ONSITE FOR A FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY, TOO.
SO THIS IS CONSIDERED GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE? YES. YEAH. OH, SO EXCITING. WHERE IS YOUR BUSINESS? WE'RE IN WEST MELBOURNE.
SO WE'RE CONTRACTORS AND SO WE OPERATE OUT OF THE HOUSE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING A LOCATION.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR EXPANSION PLANS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, IT MOSTLY PROBABLY JUST BE A DISPLAY ROOM.
FOR THE MOST PART, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANY RETAIL, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE FOR DISPLAYS.
NEED HERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COLLABORATIVE AND SUPPORTIVE DEVELOPERS.
DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO DEVELOP.
SO. MANAGEMENT BIOLOGICAL NATIVE.
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GET INTO A. LIKE THIS.AS YOU THINK ABOUT WORKING WITH GOVERNMENTS AND IFAS.
STATIONS. AND THERE ARE ASSOCIATIONS.
HE'D. TYPES OF PRACTICE BUILT TO CONDOMINIUM DOCUMENTS THAT REGULATE HOW MUCH WATER.
TO NINE OF THE CONDOMINIUMS REGULATED YEARS.
IF TITANIUM IS PERMEABLE PAVING.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THESE PERMITTING HURDLES.
UNTIL I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE THESE PERMITS, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD YET.
SO THAT IS OUR NEXT MISSION, IS MAKING SURE WE WHO STAY THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL HAS A PRESENTATION ON GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS IF THAT IF THIS FALLS UNDER THAT RUBRIC.
PREREGISTRATION. IT'S AT NOON I THINK.
IT'S NOT THEIR REGULAR LUNCHEON LEARN BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING A RESOURCE ALSO BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE TO PROMOTE CHANGE, ESPECIALLY WITH GOVERNMENTS ABSOLUTELY PERMITTING IT.
WE PLAN MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL DOES THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE ALSO, SO WE PLAN ON BEING A PART OF THAT AND HELPING TO EXPAND AND SHOW PEOPLE WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS AND THE REALLY COOL PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'RE JUST REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND THIS TYPE OF STUFF AND THE THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO AND THE REALLY INTRICATE PROJECTS YOU CAN DO THAT CONNECT, LIKE YOU SAID, RAIN, WATER, NATIVE PLANTS, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
THE POSSIBILITIES REALLY ARE ENDLESS.
WHEN WE'RE CLEAR CUTTING, WE NEED HABITAT FOR BIRDS.
AND WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS IS A.
SO BEING ABLE TO INCORPORATE THESE PRACTICES INTO DEVELOPMENT AND TRY AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO TO DO SOME MORE LOW IMPACT PRACTICES AND LEAVE MORE GREEN SPACES, LEAVE MORE MATURE NATIVE VEGETATION TO CAPTURE RAINWATER, TO SLOW RAINWATER DOWN.
THERE'S A LOT OF PRACTICES THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED AND WOULD REALLY HELP, I THINK, THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO HELP THE DEVELOPERS TO KIND OF SEE WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND SHOW THEM THAT MAKING MONEY IS NOT IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY, BUT TO THEM IT IS SO THAT THESE THINGS CAN BE GOOD FOR THEIR BUSINESS ALSO, AND IT CAN HELP PROMOTE THEIR BUSINESS.
AND. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S NOT BEEN PRACTICED VERY MUCH.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NEW APPLICATIONS OUT THERE AND A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION ON IT.
SO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT REALLY WANTS TO SEE IT REVIEWED.
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YOU CAN PUBLISH THIS STUFF THAT WAY.THEY'LL HAVE A LOT LESS CONCERN.
THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STARTING.
DR. LINDEMANN, WHO IS THE INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INTERN, A SUSTAINABILITY INTERN THAT UNFORTUNATELY NOT HERE.
SHE'S NOT SHE'S NOT WELL, BUT SHE IS WITH THEIR I FORGET THE DEPARTMENT NAME AT MIT, BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO ASK KIRSTEN TO INTRODUCE YOU TO DR.
LINDEMANN. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT ONE OF HIS INTERNS COULD BE ASSIGNED TO TO HELP DO.
I ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ATTEND NEXT THURSDAY EVENING.
OTHERWISE, YOU CAN WATCH IT ONLINE.
WE ARE BRINGING FORTH AN ORDINANCE FOR A VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
THE ORDINANCE CALLS FOR CERTAIN FLEXIBILITIES AND WAIVERS THAT COULD BE OFFERED TO THAT DEVELOPER IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT WILL ELIMINATE OR REDUCE THE POLLUTANTS THAT GO INTO THE STORMWATER. SO IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO ATTEND, THAT MEETING STARTS AT SIX SIX THURSDAY.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO WATCH IT ONLINE, EITHER ON FACEBOOK OR ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
BROWN WORKS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
TRYING TO REMOVE BARRIERS, PERMITTING, DEVELOP BETTER PRACTICES.
THAT PERHAPS WOULD BE WORTH AN INTRODUCTION TO NATALIE SHAPER.
NATALIE SHAPER IS ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS IN PUBLIC WORKS AND SHE'S ACTUALLY SPEARHEADING THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, AND SHE PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH ST JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP RIGHT DIRECTION OR GIVE YOU AN.
IT'S TOUGH TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS.
RIGHT. RIGHT NOW IT'S BRAD AND I, FOR THE MOST PART, WORKING IN OUR SPARE TIME.
BRAD'S DOING IT FULL TIME NOW, ME AFTER WORK.
SO DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE INVOLVED AND BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND SPEAK TO THIS COMMUNITY AND JUST EXPOSE EVERYONE TO ALL THE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES.
WE ARE. IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE ORDINANCE FOR VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, THE NEXT STEP FOR THE CITY WOULD BE TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM DEVELOPERS ON THE MANUAL.
A MANUAL HAS TO BE DEVELOPED AS WELL, AND THAT GETS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION BY COUNCIL.
THE GOAL FOR FOR COLLABORATING WITH THE DEVELOPERS IS WE DON'T WANT TO HINDER DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT COUNCIL'S ADVOCATING FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHEN WE BEGIN HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE YOU IN THE ROOM THAT CAN SAY, HERE IS WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, HOW YOU. WE'D LOVE TO BE PART OF THAT.
OF A LOT OF. YOU SAY ALL THE FEEDBACK? THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVING.
I COULD LEAVE IT WITH SOMEBODY.
HE REACHED FOR AROUND FOUR LOCAL.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
27TH, 2022.WE ADOPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
I SECOND BEFORE I MOTION PASSES.
[NEW BUSINESS]
WE HAVE A STANDING DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD TO HIGHLIGHT IDEAS AND DETAILS TO SUPPORT THE PLANNING OF THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.[00:55:03]
UM. I THINK WE NEED TO INVITE THESE GUYS TO OUR SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO OPEN TO DISCUSSION OF IDENTIFYING COMPONENTS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR TO PURSUE.
AND SUSAN, CAN WE START WITH YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU BROUGHT TONIGHT FOR THAT? I ACTUALLY.
NOT. BUT I BELIEVE I WILL BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE END OF THE LINE.
SO IF YOU COULD LEAVE ME LAST.
I, I KIND OF THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE.
DON'T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK OR TAKE THE TIME.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO FIND.
GOOD. INFORMATION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INFORMATION LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN INFORMATIONAL BOOTHS.
I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A ONE DAY MEETING HERE AT THE THE CITY PROPERTY HERE, AND WE WERE DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF TRYING TO HAVE THIS BE.
YOU KNOW, NO TRASH, NO NOTHING.
SO BUT IN FAMILY FRIENDLY AS IN GAMES AND THINGS.
IS THE BOARD. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS? I MEAN, I THINK THAT EXPOSE OR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE I THINK WAS.
HAVING DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS COME AND TALK TO US.
I'M WITH THE AMERICAN COALITION.
SITES THAT ARE DOING ADVOCATING FOR POLICY AND STUFF FOR OUR FRIENDS THAT JUST WERE HERE.
I REALLY LIKE THE EDUCATION THING.
EDUCATION, I THINK, IS THE BIGGEST PART.
SO WE CAN HAVE MAYBE LIKE AN ADVOCACY SECTION, WE CAN MAYBE HAVE A BUSINESS SECTION AND THEY CAN BRING MODELS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND TALK TO CONSTITUENT CONSTITUENTS, BUT RESIDENTS AND MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND GOVERNING OFFICIALS.
SO THEY BRING IN SOME AREAS, BUT I THINK EDUCATION.
SOME. MY SUGGESTION IS WE HAD DISCUSSED IN THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN DOING.
CYCLING EVENTS OR THINGS THAT DON'T GO IN MAINSTREAM RECYCLING.
I DO ENVISION THIS WITHOUT IT BEING A JUNK PILE OF ELECTRONICS THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.
BUT IF THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT TAKE.
RECYCLE, SAY, CELL PHONES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IF IF IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO FOR THAT KIND OF RECYCLING EVENT, FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO THROW THEM IN THE TRASH LIKE ALL YOUR OLD BATTERIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF WORK OR RESEARCH OR HEARD A LOT ABOUT PLACES THAT YOU CAN.
UM. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD MINDS OUT THERE THAT ARE PROBABLY THOUGHT THROUGH IT.
MAYBE WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN SOME WAY.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BRING SOMETHING TO RECYCLE AND YOU GET WHATEVER TOKEN TOWARD YOUR GAME OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE END UP ENVISIONING WITH GAMES.
I MEAN. WORCESTER, MASSACHUSETTS.
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AND I WANTED TO SEE HOW CLOSE WE ARE.WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING A TREE CANOPY STUDY.
IS THAT LIZARD INSIDE? I THINK IT IS.
I CAN'T TELL. IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYWAY.
SO I WAS THINKING THAT IT'S SOMETHING IF WE.
TO POLL PEOPLE ABOUT WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PLANT A TREE IF IT COULD MAKE US A TREE CITY? BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, ARBOR THE ARBOR FOUNDATION SUPPORTS THAT.
IT'S ACTUALLY AN INTERNATIONAL CHALLENGE TO BE A TREE CITY, NOT JUST US.
WELL, I WANT TO BE A TREE SITTING.
I, I DO WANT TO KIND OF REITERATE, I THINK SOME THINGS THAT WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL LIMITING IT TO ONE DAY A MIDDAY EVENT ON A WEEKEND, I THINK WOULD BE REALLY CRUCIAL. I, I WOULD LOVE TO EXPLORE A LOT OF OPTIONS AND THEN FINALIZE WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
I KIND OF THINK STILL STICKING TO.
IT SOUNDS TERRIBLE, BUT SENDING A LITTLE BIT OF A LOWER GOALPOST.
SO IF WE CAN'T DO ZERO WASTE, WE CAN ENCOURAGE ZERO WASTE AND AND LIKE.
YEAH. CHOOSE LIKE, ONE, ONE ELEMENT.
LIKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY STRAWS OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THINGS LIKE THAT AND JUST KIND OF BUILD THE KI BEING, GETTING AS MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH A LOW BARRIER TO ENTRY BECAUSE GETTING PEOPLE THERE FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES I THINK IS THE CORE GOAL.
I DO WANT TO NOTE IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE CITY HAS ESTABLISHED A SUSTAINABILITY PLANNING TASK FORCE, WHICH IS THE COOLEST SOUNDING THING I AM GOING TO HEAR ALL DAY.
AND SO IT'D BE COOL FOR US TO KIND OF COLLECT OUR.
DIET LISTS OF THINGS KIND OF MORE FORMALLY, AND THEN CHOOSE SOMEONE TO CARRY THE BANNER FOR US.
AND. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT OUR SUSTAINABILITY INTERN, LEX, SHE'S ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING TO ORGANIZATIONS AND LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE HOW THEY'VE DONE SUSTAINABILITY, WHAT BEST PRACTICES, THINGS THEY'VE LEARNED, THINGS THAT WORK, THINGS THAT THINGS DON'T WORK. IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS.
AND SO SHE'S COMPILING A LIST.
CITY OF SATELLITE BEACH IS ONE THAT SHE'S REACHED OUT TO.
CITY OF ORLANDO IS ANOTHER ONE THAT'S DONE SOME PRETTY WELL ORGANIZED FAIRS.
WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
WE HAVEN'T YET DONE BUILT THE TASK FORCE.
WE HAVE A LIST OF NAMES AND GROUPS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO, BUT WE WANTED TO START WITH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO LEAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS SUSTAINABILITY FAIR TO BE AS DIFFERENT AS POSSIBLE.
THE THING THAT DOES THAT FOR ME ARE.
ONE EXAMPLE IS IN THE AREA OF WASTE MANAGEMENT.
HAVE YOUR WASTE MANAGE IN HOMES NOW IN COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL.
IS THIS REALLY POSSIBLE? ORDER OF BUSINESS THEN IS TO SELECT A BOARD MEMBER TO REPRESENT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD AT THAT.
VOLUNTEER. COULD WE GET SOME CLARITY ON THE.
SO WOULD THIS PERSON WHO IS COMING FROM OUR BOARD CONSIDERED.
THE CHAIRPERSON I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THE HEAD OF A TASK FORCE, THE TASK MANAGER.
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THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES HAVE THE ABILITY TO.EIGHT OR A TASKFORCE FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE CHAIR, THE INDIVIDUAL SELECTED FROM THIS BOARD WOULD SERVE AS SORT OF A CHAIR HELP KIND OF GUIDE THE INTENT AND THE GOALS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, BECAUSE THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR WOULD BE AN EVENT OF THE BOARD, ALTHOUGH IT'S LED AND.
IT'S AN EVENT THAT THE BOARD HAS DECIDED WANTED TO HOST.
BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ENCOUNTERING THIS.
AND SO WHAT'S THE FREQUENCY OF THOSE MEETINGS GENERALLY? IT REALLY IS GOING TO DEPEND ON.
THE BOARD MAKEUP, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THE MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE.
LIKELY WILL BE LESS FREQUENT AT FIRST, MAYBE ONCE MONTHLY.
BUT AS YOU GET CLOSER, OBVIOUSLY YOU PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE MORE FREQUENT MEETINGS.
WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, AND I CAN USE MAYORS BALL AS AN EXAMPLE, IS WE START TO HAVE ONE ONCE A MONTH AND THEN AS WE GET CLOSER THERE ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS AND SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT POP UP ONCE A WEEK.
SO IT REALLY IS. IT GETS CLOSER.
YOU HAVE MORE FREQUENT. IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BOARD AND A TASK FORCE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE MANAGEMENT AND THE SUNSHINE ISSUES AND THINGS. SO THE TASK FORCE WON'T BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS THE BOARD IN TERMS OF FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW.
PROGRESS THAT IS BEING MADE ON THE TASK FORCE.
SO WE'LL WANT TO HAVE THAT PERSON INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE CITY SIDE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THINGS LIKE TRASH CANS AND TENTS AND CHAIRS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE'LL INCLUDE OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FROM THE PROMOTION AND MARKETING STANDPOINT SIDE OF IT.
CITIES ASIDE FROM LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FOR BOTH THINGS LIKE THAT ARE DONE, WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT REACHING OUT TO BUSINESSES TO FIND CERTAIN BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES IN PALM BAY THAT DO HAVE SOME SORT OF SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICE THAT MAY WANT TO BE REPRESENTED SO THAT WE HAVE GOOD IDEAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
REPRESENTATIVE THE TASK FORCE.
I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT IS THE DATE OR TIME FRAME WE ARE SHOOTING FOR TO HAVE THE EVENT LEAVE.
IT WAS APRIL AND THE REASON FOR THAT WAS WE HAVE EARTH DAY.
THE WEATHER IS IS MORE FAVORABLE IN APRIL.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT.
THERE YOU AS A BOARD OR THE TASK FORCE SHOULD IDEALLY COME UP WITH, IF WE WANT IT TO BE A SATURDAY, THE THIRD SET WHAT DAY IN APRIL? ACTUALLY HAD A COMMENT.
THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION CALLED FLORIDA FIELD OF FORKS, AND IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE THEM BE AT THE FAIR IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH ALL KINDS OF LOCAL NOT JUST LOCAL FOOD, BUT LOCAL GOODS.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT? I'D BE OPEN TO VOLUNTEERING.
MAKE HIM HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT.
I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT A VOLUNTEER? I MEAN, LET'S. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SWAP OFF IF IT WAS NEEDED TO SEND SOMEBODY ELSE TO OCCASIONALLY? YES, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITH OTHER TASK FORCE WHERE IF LET'S SAY MR. SNYDER IS NOT AVAILABLE TO ATTEND ON THAT DAY, THEN HE WOULD TAG WE WOULD HAVE TO BE SORRY THAT HIS STAFF WOULD REACH OUT TO YOU AND ASK YOU TO.
THE BACK UP PERSON NOW OR THAT CAN BE FLEXIBLE.
GO AHEAD AND MAKE A VOTE ON THE PERSON APPOINTED TO THE TASK FORCE AND THEN THE BACKUP AS A SECOND.
WHAT ELSE INTERESTED IN? SPINNING OR AS A BACKUP.
[01:10:06]
VOLUNTEER AND A BACKUP.SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPOINT THEM TO REPRESENT OUR BOARD? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE PHILLIP SNYDER AS OUR.
UH, LEAD TO THE TASK FORCE OR THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR WITH A BACKUP OF REBECCA SIEGLER.
ALL RIGHT. PAST YOU. ALL RIGHT.
SO OUR OTHER BUSINESS THIS EVENING IS THE UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS OF INTEREST.
[OTHER BUSINESS]
MENTIONED TUESDAY, OCTOBER 2ND.HOW DO WE FIND THAT NOON? YOU CAN GO TO THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL WEBSITE AND IT'S ONE OF THE FEATURED UPCOMING EVENTS.
UM. IS THAT RELATED TO THE EVENT THERE ON OCTOBER 21ST? NO, THIS IS TUESDAY.
GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORTS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
AND YOU SAID IT WAS TUESDAY, AUGUST 2ND.
I'VE GOT A FLIER AND IT IS THEIR LUNCH AND LEARN SERIES.
THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL, YOU CAN GO TO THEM THEIR WEBSITE, THEY HAVE THESE MONTHLY.
BUT THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A BUILD UP TO THE LOW IMPACT ELEMENT.
THE PERSON WHO WILL BE THERE IS FIRST BOGDAN WHO WAS AT THE FIRST MARINE RESOURCE.
UM. WORKSHOP AND HE WORKS FOR FERGUSON WATERWORKS AND THEY ARE DOING SOME VERY INNOVATIVE AND THEY'RE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY EXCITING.
JUST HAVE TO REGISTER. IT'S ALL FREE, OF COURSE.
FINE. I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WATCHING THIS TAPE.
WORTH GOING. AND THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON OR THE LAGOON HOUSE IS A.
THE W WW MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL.
THAT'S THE WEBSITE, BUT I CAN LOOK IT UP.
IT WOULD LIKELY BE ON THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL'S WEBSITE.
YOU KNOW. IT'S NOT INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
JUST PUT IN ANY ONE OF THOSE WORDS.
HAVE THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE HERE.
THAT. THAT ALSO REGISTERED FOR EARL? YES, THAT'S ALSO ON THAT SAME WEBSITE.
THAT IS THAT DOES HAVE A COST.
I DON'T KNOW IF KRISTEN, IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE COST IS.
IT'S. IF IT WAS LIKE IN THE TWO HUNDREDS, $150.
AND I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US TO THINK OF WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT CITIZENS TO ATTEND.
WE KNOW LAST YEAR IT SOLD OUT.
RIGHT. ARE THEY IN A BIGGER VENUE? SAME VENUE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER EVENTS INTEREST? JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY AGAIN, WE ARE BRINGING FORTH THE VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 4TH.
[01:15:04]
NEXT THURSDAY, 6 P.M.HERE IN THIS ROOM, IT WILL BE UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SECTION OF THE AGENDA.
AND WE EXPECT THAT OUR PUBLIC WORK, PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEER TO NATALIE SCHREIBER WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE. SHE DID PRESENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IN JULY.
AND ALSO I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR US TO BECOME MORE VISIBLE.
RUPE TONIGHT CAME TO US FIRST, BUT AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE MAYOR IS REQUESTING IN HIS STATE OF THE MONTH SPEECH AND ALSO CITY STAFF THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND INPUT.
AND NOT TO RELY SOLELY ON OUR PLAN, BUT TO ACTUALLY THINK IN TERMS OF HAVING INPUT BOTH FROM THIS ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL AS US, AS INDIVIDUALS.
AND THE LAST THING IS WE HAVE TO OPENINGS HERE, HAVE ONE THAT CAN APPLY THROUGH CITY HALL.
NOW? I THINK WE HAVE TO BECAUSE THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE HERE.
I KNOW THERE'S TWO BECAUSE I JUST TALKED TO JUDY DENNIS TODAY.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS AN APPOINTMENT THROUGH COUNCILMAN RANDY FOSTER.
UM. NEED TO GET OUR BOARD FILLED.
IS IS THAT LIKE IN THE AGENDA THAT'S AVAILABLE? ANYTHING TO READ IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING ON WEBSITE? YES. AND THE AGENDA PACKET FOR COUNCIL WILL BE PUBLISHED.
USUALLY IT'S PUBLISHED FRIDAY EVENINGS.
SO THIS COMING FRIDAY, HOWEVER, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PULL THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA PACKET FROM THE WEB CITY'S WEBSITE FOR THE JULY 6TH AND ZIP BOARD MEETING.
AND THE SAME INFORMATION WILL BE IN THAT.
IS THEY OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. THE OTHER.
UM. IT'S OR ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE.
RIGHT. JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN A CORNER DISCUSSING BOARD BUSINESS.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? AND IS THERE A SECOND I SECOND AND ALL IN FAVOR I.
THANK YOU. IT'S VERY INEFFECTIVE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.