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GENTLEMEN. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022, 21 TO ORDER.
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OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY DAVID FITZ-GERALD FROM TAMAQUA CHRISTIAN CHURCH.DAVID, WHERE ARE YOU? AND THEN IT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND COUNCILMAN FELIX WILL WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
WILL YOU ALL PLEASE STAND? ONLY IF WE CAN. THANK YOU ALL FIRST FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRAY FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN, WE JUST COME TO YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR AN EVENING.
WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR LOVE AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
DEAR GOD. BUT NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE THOSE ROLES, THEY ALSO HAVE ROLES AS FAMILY MEMBERS.
SO HELP US, DEAR LORD, WATCH OUR WORDS AND LET US TALK IN LOVE.
AMEN. ACTUALLY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
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DEPUTY MAYOR ANNOUNCEMENT.ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT ONE OF THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS BANKING INDUSTRY ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL, HOME BUILDER OR NONPROFIT PROVIDER.
AGENDA REVISIONS, MADAM BROWN.
THANK YOU. ARE YOU? IS YOUR SPEAKER ON? CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? BUT PRESS THE BUTTON, MAN.
NONE, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
MADAM SMITH? NO, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
AND FIRST UP, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
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MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY. FOUR AGENDA REVISIONS.I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS FIVE, SIX AND 7 TO 1, TWO AND THREE.
THIS COUNCIL HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? I'LL SECOND. SO YOU WANT TO MOVE? FIVE, SIX AND 7 TO 1 FIVE.
YES, SIR. THE FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN.
THEY'RE ALL. THERE'S ONE THAT'S A FINAL READING.
SEVEN IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ONE, THOUGH.
I'VE GOT A MOTION IN THE SECOND.
DID YOU KNOW THERE'S A QUARRY ON THERE WHEN YOU SICK? YOU SECONDED THE MOTION. SO YOU GO WITH THAT.
EVERYONE GOOD WITH THAT COUNCIL? NO. SOME ENFORCER. YEAH, I'M GOOD.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO ON AND VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE PAYING ATTENTION, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ITEMS. FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN.
AND I'M THINKING, WHAT DID YOU SAY BEFORE? IT'LL BE ONE, TWO, FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO MAYOR B56712567.
YES, SIR, I'LL BE THAT. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL GO ONE, TWO, FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE KEEPING SCORE, WE'LL BE DOING ONE ITEMS, ONE, TWO ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEN FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THREE AND FOUR. ALL RIGHT.
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SO, LISTEN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE? THE REASON MAY BE THAT ITEMS THREE AND FOUR MAY BE A PROLONGED VERSION OF OF OUR MEETING.
AND SO BEING COURTEOUS TO THOSE THAT ARE AFTER YOU.
WE COUNSEL DECIDED TO MOVE IT UP WILL WILL BE EXPEDITIOUS IN IN OUR DEALINGS TODAY I HOPE THAT SATISFIES YOU SO AT THIS POINT WE'VE ALREADY VOTED AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
I TRULY DO. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO ON WITH OUR MEETING.
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SO WE'RE WE'RE ON.WE'RE ON. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, I CAN JOIN ME DOWN HERE IN HONORING THIS VETERAN.
YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME. YES, SIR.
COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO REQUESTS THAT WE ALL GO DOWN AND JOIN THEM IN THIS PRESENTATION.
THIS EVENING, I PRESENT A FLAG TO MR. LARRY LAWTON, AND THIS FLAG WAS FLOWN OVER CITY HALL ON JUNE 29, 2022.
AND THIS FLAG IS IN HONOR OF YOUR SERVICE, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.
THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF WORDS HERE FOR MR. REGARDING MR. LARRY LAWTON AND HIS BACKGROUND.
RETIRED US COAST GUARD FROM 1979 TO 1986.
HE PARTICIPATED IN THE INAUGURATION PARADE OF PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1981.
NOTABLE SERVICE INCLUDES ASSISTANCE WITH THE MARIEL BOATLIFT, WHICH IS A MASS IMMIGRATION OF CUBANS WHO TRAVELED FROM CUBA'S MARIEL HARBOR TO THE UNITED STATES AND MIAMI IN 1980. HE LED RESCUE EFFORTS DURING A SUNDAY SUNSHINE BRIDGE COLLAPSE OVER TAMPA BAY, WHICH OCCURRED IN 1980.
AND HE ALSO LED RESCUE EFFORTS FOR THE US COAST GUARD CUTTER BLACKTHORN SINKING, WHICH OCCURRED IN TAMPA BAY AS MEDALS INCLUDE THE HUMANITARIAN SERVICE MEDAL, THE GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL, THE COAST GUARD RIFLE MARKSMAN AND THE COAST GUARD MERITORIOUS UNIT COMMENDATION MEDAL.
SO JUST SOME WORDS WITH LARRY.
SO INTERESTING THAT HE ACTUALLY WROTE A BOOK OF HIS LIFE CALLED GANGSTER REDEMPTION.
HIGHLY, HIGHLY SUGGESTS THAT YOU ALL READ IT.
LARRY IS AN HONORARY POLICE OFFICER FOR A SMALL CITY OUTSIDE SAINT LOUIS.
WHAT MAKES ME PALM BAY PROUD IS THAT HE LIVES IN PALM BAY.
ALL OF HIS WORK IS BASED IN PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH.
HIS POSITIVE HIS POSITIVE OUTREACH, HIS POSITIVE, POSITIVE OUTREACH HAS HELPED CHILDREN, FAMILIES AND VETERANS, NOT ONLY IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT IN COMMUNITIES ABROAD NATIONWIDE. THANK YOU, LARRY, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY.
I'VE BEEN IN PALM BAY SINCE MY MOM LIVED HERE IN 1983.
AND YES, PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES, BUT EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I SHOW THROUGHOUT THE REALITY CHECK PROGRAM, WHICH IS RECOGNIZED.
LIKE HE SAID, WE HAVE THE HIGHEST SUCCESS RATE IN THE COUNTRY OF ANY YOUTH PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A 90% SUCCESS RATE OF KIDS NOT GOING BACK TO JAIL.
70% HAVE BETTER ATTITUDES, 43% HAVE BETTER SCHOOL GRADES, AND 31% HAVE BETTER SCHOOL ATTENDANCE.
THAT IS THE HIGHEST. AND IT WASN'T DONE BY ME.
IT WAS DONE BY AN INDEPENDENTLY BY A COLLEGE.
A COLLEGE, ACTUALLY, EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE DID THE NUMBERS.
IT OPENS YOUR HEART TO WHAT PEOPLE GO THROUGH TO GET HERE TO AMERICA.
AND I HAVE A BIG, BIG HEART PLACEMENT.
PEOPLE SAY, HEY, YOU SHOULDN'T COME HERE.
WE ARE A LAND OF OPPORTUNITY AND WE NEED TO STAY THAT WAY.
WE NEED TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY OUT.
WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS ROOM, ALL OF YOU PARTICIPATING, RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT.
IF YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE, YOU CAN HAVE A RESULT THAT YOU WANT.
EVERYBODY SHOULD PARTICIPATE WITH A LEVEL EQUAL AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER.
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AND THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE COUNTRY AT THIS MOMENT.I ALSO LOOK AT THIS AS YOU KNOW, AND WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS, YES, I MADE MY BAD CHOICES.
I BECAME AN HONORARY POLICE OFFICER IN LAKE SAINT LOUIS, MISSOURI.
I TEACH THERE POLICE ACADEMY, COMMUNITY POLICING.
AND I WAS RECOGNIZING THE MAYOR WOULD KNOW THIS FROM CONGRESS TO CONGRESSMAN POSEY ON THE FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY, PRETTY, PRETTY AMAZING, ACTUALLY VERY HUMBLING.
BUT I REALLY AM GOING TO SAY THIS ONE THING WITH THIS CITY, THIS MEANS MORE TO ME.
AND YOU GUYS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THOSE THINGS ARE JUST ON THE WALL.
YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT I LIVE HERE.
I WANT RESPECT THAT OF THE PEOPLE WHO I LIVE WITH THE CITY HERE.
PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THE RIGHT, WRONG OR A DIFFERENCE WITH ME.
I WILL FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT.
WE MIGHT NOT AGREE, BUT WE WILL GET TO A POINT WHERE MAYBE WE CAN UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER, WHETHER IT'S WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE CITY, WHATEVER IT IS, I WILL COME PREPARED AS I KNOW THESE GUYS DO.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS GOT TO KEEP IT GOING.
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE SUCH A PACKED HOUSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY.
SINCE YOU'RE DOWN HERE, LET'S JUST STICK TOGETHER AND JOIN OUR HEARTS WITH.
WE ALL. WE ALL APPRECIATE THOSE THAT VOLUNTEER.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SO ENCOURAGED WHEN I SEEN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU COMING.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR AN ITEM.
BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOMED HERE.
WE LOVE BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS WHAT COMMUNITY REPRESENTS YOUR PARTICIPATION.
TODAY, WE HONOR A GENTLEMAN THAT HAS SERVED NOT ONLY OUR NATION AS A SAILOR, BUT HE'S ALSO SERVED AND CONTINUES TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY TIME AND TIME AGAIN. HE SITS ON TWO ON TWO BOARDS.
HE SITS ON THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT GIVE SO MUCH OF THEMSELVES.
WE. WE HONOR EACH OTHER'S SERVICE BY PINNING.
AND PART OF THAT HONOR IS WE PIN IT ON AND WE PIN IT SO THAT WE CAN DRAW BLOOD.
THERE'S THERE'S A DIRECT REPRESENTATION.
WHEN YOU DRAW BLOOD, IT'S LIKE BEING BLOOD BROTHERS, IF YOU WILL.
THERE'S A COVENANT THAT'S MADE.
BUT I WANTED TO HONOR TOM, AND I'LL READ THE FOLLOWING.
A BASIC INGREDIENT IN THE FOUNDATION OF OUR CITY IS THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE INITIATIVE AND THE VOLUNTEER ACCEPTANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY IN OUR PRIVATE CITIZENS.
EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS SOME CONTRIBUTION TO OFFER FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS, AND YOU AS A VOLUNTEER, TOM, HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE WELL-BEING OF OUR FELLOW RESIDENTS AND THE WELFARE OF OUR CITIZENS BY GIVING TIRELESSLY OF YOUR TIME, ENERGY WITHOUT DESIRE OF RECOGNITION AND RENUMERATION OR PERSONAL GAIN.
THIS VOLUNTEER PIN THAT I'M ABOUT TO DRAW BLOOD WITH IS BUT A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR LOVE AND DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE FAITHFULLY RENDERED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
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YOU KNOW, MUCH CAN BE SAID ABOUT THOSE THAT.THINK OF OTHERS MORE THAN THEMSELVES.
AND THAT IS WHAT TOM IS REPRESENTING HERE THIS EVENING.
AND AND I WANT YOU TO JOIN ME IN APPLAUDING HIS EFFORTS.
I DIDN'T PHYSICALLY INJURED HIM.
HE WON'T WORK ANY ANY CLAIMS. BUT, TOM, PLEASE.
A LITTLE DIFFERENT STANDARD ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM.
IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO SERVE THE CITY.
I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO FOR.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON FOR ORIGINALLY PUTTING ME ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOARD AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO FOR ALLOWING ME TO CONTINUE THAT SERVICE WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE ROAD BOND.
YESTERDAY I GOT 100% VA DISABILITY.
I KNOW IT WAS COMING FROM THE PARKS BOARD THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE IN THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR SOMETHING NEW.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR YOU TO PUT SOMETHING BACK.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT DURING ELECTION CYCLES.
SO I THINK IT'S A NEEDED POSITION.
WE GOT TO COME UP. THANKS, TOM.
SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE FLORIDA WATER PROFESSIONALS MONTH.
MISS KING. MARISSA KING, WOULD YOU STEP FORWARD, PLEASE? THERE YOU GO. RIGHT HERE, AND THEN I'LL LET YOU SAY A FEW WORDS.
I'M PREPARED. WHEREAS THE FLORIDA WATER AND POLLUTION CONTROL OPERATORS ASSOCIATION, ORGANIZED IN 1941, IS A NONPROFIT TRADE ORGANIZATION THAT PROMOTES THE SUSTAINABILITY OF FLORIDA'S WATER QUALITY INDUSTRY THROUGH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF FLORIDA'S CITIZENS AND TO PRESERVE THE STATE'S WATER RESOURCES.
AND. WHEREAS, THIS ORGANIZATION OFFERS WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT OPERATOR AND WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM OPERATOR TRAINING COURSES REQUIRED FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S OPERATE A LICENSEE'S.
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LIAISON BETWEEN THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND THE INDUSTRY AND INDUSTRY PERSONNEL.LISTEN, THAT'S NOT AN EASY TASK TO HANDLE.
THESE BUREAUCRATIC AGENCIES JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IN THERE.
WHEREAS THE FLORIDA WATER AND POLLUTION CONTROL OPERATORS ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZES ALL THOSE WHO HAVE PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT PART IN OPERATING AND MAINTAINING DRINKING WATER WASTEWATER STORMWATER SYSTEMS IN FLORIDA.
AND. WHEREAS, WATER PROFESSIONALS ARE OFTEN.
NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY AS SET OFF AS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 2022, AS FLORIDA WATER PROFESSIONALS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND I CALL UPON ALL OUR CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED HAVE MADE TOWARDS IMPROVING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE ON TO SET IN MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FOURTH DAY OF AUGUST 2020 TO.
I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF. I'M A SCIENCE AND MATH PERSON, NOT A WORD PERSON.
SORRY. I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT DISAPPOINTED.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOGNITION ON BEHALF OF WATER AND WASTEWATER OPERATORS.
WE ARE ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OFTEN OVERLOOKED.
YOU ONLY CALL UPON US WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY.
VOLUNTEER OUR TIME TO THE CONTINUING EDUCATION AND TRAINING OF OPERATORS AND TO ENSURE SAFE AND AND HEALTHY WATERWAYS FOR AND AND DRINKING WATER FOR OUR CITIZENS AND COMMUNITIES.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR EFFORTS.
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SO WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS AND MADAM BROWN.GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
IT'S ALWAYS A BEAUTIFUL DAY WHEN I GET TO VISIT PALM BAY, ALBEIT VIRTUAL.
I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH.
ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN.
I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION AND.
CLOSED UP WITH SOME QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
SO FOR FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T HEARD THIS BEFORE, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE STARTED AND THEN WHERE WE HOW WE GOT TO THE DEBATE.
AND THEN GIVE YOU A LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE UP TO RIGHT AT THE MOMENT AND WHAT WE'VE GOT PLANNED COMING UP, THE SCHEDULE AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
THIS WILL LOOK SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.
SO TO TAKE YOU BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE TIMELINE.
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HE. GIVEN THAT YOUR BASE AMENDMENTS TO ESSENTIALLY GET THE STAY OFF OF OUR BACKS, SO TO SPEAK.SO WE ADDRESSED ALL OF THE STATE REQUIREMENTS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT WAS JUST REALLY A FUNCTIONAL.
PROCESS PART OF THE PROCESS AGAIN, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO GO THROUGH THE VISIONING PROCESS TO GIVE US MORE TIME IS ESSENTIALLY WHY WE DID IT THIS WAY.
WE DID A SERIES OF THREE WORKSHOPS.
WHERE ARE WE GOING? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO AND HOW DO WE GET THERE? SO WE HAD THESE SERIES OF THREE WORKSHOPS AT OUR SOCIAL PINPOINT WEBSITE.
HE TOOK IN A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE FINE FOLKS IN PALM BAY.
AND IT WAS TREMENDOUS, IN FACT, I THINK.
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY ENDED UP BEING, I WANT TO SAY, AROUND 200 PAGES LONG.
AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE FINISHED THAT UP BACK IN MARCH.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE BROCHURE FROM THE VISION PLAN AND YOU THE THE TOPIC AREAS THAT WE ADDRESS AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
SO FROM THAT IMPLEMENTATION STANDPOINT, AGAIN, THIS IS A LITTLE SNIPPET FROM THE THE BROCHURE.
NOW THE VISION PLAN INCLUDES A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT MANY ARE.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO TOO MUCH OF THE DETAIL.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THE VISION PLAN REALLY ALLOWED FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT IS IMPACTING THE CITY.
SO. BUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE CONFERENCE WOMEN? SO WE HAVE TO GO IN AND COMPLETELY UPDATE THE DATA ANALYSIS.
IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2000.
ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED FROM A STATUTE LEVEL, BUT ALSO IT PROVIDES THE BASIS FOR THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES. HE WENT THROUGH THE VISIONING.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S DESIRES.
HOWEVER, WE STILL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DATA.
AS WE WORK THROUGH THE CONFERENCE, A PLAN FOR, AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING STATUTES, ALSO MAKING SURE WE ADDRESS THE VISION PLAN, FOCUSING ON IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE, WHICH IS THAT FOURTH AND FINAL PHASE OF THIS KIND OF FULL SCALE UPDATE OF THE COMP PLAN AND THE LDC.
SO THE TIME FRAME, IT'S ABOUT A 7 TO 10 MONTH PROCESS.
HOW WILL THE HEARINGS LINE UP? AND THEN WHEN WE GET OUR COMMENTS BACK FROM OUR FRIENDS IN TALLAHASSEE.
SO WE'RE HERE AND AT THE STAR BASE.
WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW AND WE'RE REALLY JUST COMPILING A LOT OF.
SEE THE POPULATION FIGURES ARE GINGRICH'S LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS AND.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH EACH ELEMENT.
SO. IT'S KIND OF A LABORIOUS PROCESS.
IT'S NOT THE FUNNEST PART, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY NECESSARY.
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HERE'S WHAT WE'VE LEARNED DURING THE DATA ANALYSIS SIDE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT THROUGH A FEW EXERCISES.I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AND IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING.
IS AND IT'S SOCIAL IN POINT THAT WE'VE REVAMPED IT OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S NO LONGER THE VISION WEBSITE IS NOW A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WEBSITE AND GOT SOME NEW ACTIVITIES FOR FOLKS TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT. WE'VE GOT A POOL MAP THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE INPUT.
THIS ALLOWS FOLKS TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND THEN COME BACK AND JOIN IN A DISCUSSION SO THAT PEOPLE REPLY TO THE COMMENTS AS PRETTY. AND ALSO WE HAVE SOME MORE GAMES THAT YOU CAN.
PLAY. A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS.
AND OF COURSE, THIS IS WHERE YOU'LL FIND ALL THE UPDATES ON THE EVENTS WHERE WE HAVE WORKSHOPS OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THE CONFERENCE.
SO THIS IS JUST AGAIN, A PLUG FOR WORKSHOP.
16 JANUARY COUNCIL CHAMBERS WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING THERE IN THE CITY.
IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY PACKED AND FULL.
I KNOW EVERYBODY IS EXCITED TO COME, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET A BIG TURNOUT AGAIN.
SO WHAT ARE SOME TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING? WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME GROWING PAINS AND AND DEVELOPMENT ISSUES THAT.
KIND OF PROPPED UP NOT JUST DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS, NOT JUST DURING THE STATE PROCESS, BUT IT'S KIND OF BEEN COMPOUNDING OVER YEARS NOW.
SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH NOT JUST IN RIVER COUNTY AND IN PALM BAY, BUT REALLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IN PALM BAY.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A SECURE CAPITAL PLAN IN TEN YEARS.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE A SIPP EVERY YEAR.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE TROUBLING.
HE SAID THAT THAT AT THE TIME NOBODY HAD ANY PRODUCT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO PAY FOR NEEDED PROJECTS IN THE CITY.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE TROUBLING THAT THESE NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS HAPPEN.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, POLICIES WILL CHANGE.
THE POLICIES ARE GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT WHAT THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS DESIRE FOR THE FUTURE OF COMBAT.
WE CERTAINLY KNOW THAT DENSITY AT CITIES MAY CHANGE.
MORE DENSITY, MORE PEOPLE LIVING, MAYBE A MIXED USE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, OF THE LAST ISSUE.
LAID INTO THE GOVERNMENT PROVINCE'S GOT THAT BUDGET CAP SO YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO INCREASE YOUR BUDGET 3% YEAR OVER YEAR, WHICH DOES HAVE AN EFFECT ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PROVIDE THE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS FOR YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE PLAN.
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OR FROM WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THE DATA AND ANALYSIS PROCESS.WITH THAT AS THE END OF MY SHORT PRESENTATION QUESTIONS CAN ALSO ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MR. DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO THE FIRST THING I JUST WANT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 25TH FROM 6 TO 8 P.M., WHETHER YOU WATCH IT ONLINE OR COME IN, COME IN PERSON, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAKEUP.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HELP GUIDE THE FUTURE DECISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM CAN HAVE INPUT ON THAT.
SO WHETHER AREA STAYS RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY OR IF WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE OR INDUSTRIAL HUB, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN EMPHASIZE A LOT OF YOUR CONCERNS OR WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE FROM YOUR CITY.
IT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE LEADING TO MY NEXT POINT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LIKE YOU SAID, HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2000.
SO, SIR, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
MY QUESTION I BROUGHT IT UP A WHILE AGO.
BECAUSE YOU. COULD YOU RESTATE THAT QUESTION? SORRY. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE YOU GO.
SO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2000.
AND I REMEMBER IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, I BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S AN ORDINANCE OR A POLICY, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE WHERE WHERE WHETHER IT'S THIS COUNCIL OR THE FUTURE COUNCIL, THEY'RE STAYING ON TOP OF IT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS SIPS.
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO WORK? GO AHEAD. ABSOLUTELY SO.
AND I REMEMBER THAT THAT COMMENT THE.
AND IT WAS YESTERDAY, IN FACT, THAT.
HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T STOP YOU PROVIDING THE POLICY IN YOUR CONFERENCES PLAN THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU REVIEW THIS BRAND EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN YOU MUST HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN EVERY YEAR.
IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A CITY BUDGET.
THEY HAVE AN IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND A PLAN THAT IS ESSENTIALLY IMPLEMENTING YOUR COMPREHENSIVE.
SO, YES, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
THANK YOU, CHRIS, FOR YOUR FOR YOUR PRESENTATION HERE TONIGHT.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I'LL DRIVE IN.
RIGHT. AND I THINK WE SHOULD GO RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT.
AND ANY AMENDMENTS, WE SHOULD BE ALWAYS GIVEN THAT FLEXIBILITY.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP SHAPING OUR CITY AND THE GROWTH THEREOF.
WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHERE'S THE INDUSTRIAL GOING TO BE? THIS IS ALL PART OF THAT PROCESS.
AND WE I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.
WE WANT YOU TO ENGAGE WITH US IN THAT PROCESS.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
WE GO. I THINK WE'RE DONE, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I SAY WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE 25TH.
AND NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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YES, SIR. FIRST UP, ROBERT STURGIS, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR KEN DELGADO.1796 ONE BROOK DRIVE SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME ON THAT PRESENT AND A PRESENTATION WAS UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH.YOU HAVE A BASICALLY AN UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD OF 16 HIGHWAYS.
AND TO PUT IN ANOTHER 367 HOMES THAT START OFF AT ABOUT 7800 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT NEXT TO HOMES AT A 3900 UP TO 4800 SQUARE FEET IS NOT COMPATIBLE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS, IF YOU WILL.
WE TALKED ABOUT OBVIOUSLY, WE WON THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING BOARD TO DENY COAL TO HOMES.
THEY FILLED IT OUT, QUITE HONESTLY, HALF ASS.
I THINK THERE WERE EIGHT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
SO YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A COMPANY LIKE THIS REALLY DOESN'T CARE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WE NEVER SAID NOT NOT IN OUR BACK YARD.
WE TALKED ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE TALKED ABOUT COMPATIBILITY.
I MEAN, I TOLD THE MAYOR BEFORE IT STARTED, THE 202 ACRES AT THE MAJORS OK IS BASICALLY THE EQUIVALENT OF CENTRAL PARK IN NEW YORK.
THIS IS BAYSIDE LAKES, CENTRAL PARK.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT? BECAUSE IF YOU DUMP THESE HOUSES HERE THAT ARE NOT COMPATIBLE, IT'S UNSAFE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WHICH PROBABLY ABOUT 3500 RIGHT NOW, WHO ARE VOTERS? NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S A BLACK EYE FOR YOU AND US AS RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK YOU REAL QUICK, CONSIDER THAT MORATORIUM.
I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT BUILDING IS SLOWING DOWN, BUT IT HASN'T STOPPED.
THE THREE PEOPLE, THEY JUST FINISHED 328 HOUSES AT STONEBRIDGE RIGHT BEHIND US.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING DOWN TO GET RID OF THE HIGH TAX AREA.
SO. LOOK AT THE MORATORIUM, PLEASE REVISIT THAT.
ALL IT IS IS A PAUSE TO REASSESS AND REEXAMINE, BECAUSE ONCE YOU START PUTTING CONCRETE IN THE GROUND AND GO DOWN, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IN A LONG TERM FUTURE LAND USE MAP MAY NOT BE A GOOD IDEA.
I'VE HEARD THAT IN AT THE KEYS.
THEY DO A MORATORIUM ABOUT EVERY YEAR.
THANK YOU. PASTOR KEN DELGADO, FOLLOWED BY TIM TIMBERLAND.
KENDALL GOT A15 FOR ANGELA ROAD SOUTHEAST.
I'D LIKE TO PAY TO NOTE WHAT JESUS SAID IN JOHN CHAPTER 16.
HE SAYS, WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH HAS COME, HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH.
HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN AUTHORITY.
BUT WHATEVER HE HEARS WILL HE SPEAK, AND HE WILL TELL YOU THINGS TO COME.
VERY IMPORTANT. HE WILL TELL YOU THINGS TO COME.
THEREFORE, HE I SAID HE WILL TAKE WHAT IS MINE AND DECLARE IT TO YOU.
VERY SIMPLY, GOD HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO GIVE PEOPLE WISDOM BEYOND THEIR UNDERSTANDING, BEYOND THEIR CAPACITY, LIKE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A WHOLE FAMILY LOOKING FOR MOM'S PURSE AND THEN FINDING IT WAS HANGING ON HER ARM ALL ALONE AS WE ALL SEARCHED FOR THE PURSE.
BUT ON THINGS SUCH AS WHAT'S COMING UP? THINGS ABOUT HOUSING VERSUS AFFORDABLE HOUSING VERSUS APARTMENTS GALORE AND ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU ARE NEEDING TO MAKE DECISIONS ON.
THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN HELPING US SEE WHAT IS TO COME.
AND CERTAINLY GOD WOULD LIKE TO SHOW US HOW TO SOLVE THE THINGS THAT ARE TO COME.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE DO ALL THE TALKING AND WE NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT HE IS TRYING TO TELL US.
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HE IS TALKING TO EACH PERSON.BUT THE STATIC VOICES, PROBLEMS, ISSUES, ANGER, ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ON.
THEY BECOME STATIC TO WHERE WE CAN'T FINE TUNE AND LISTEN TO WHAT GOD IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO TELL US.
I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY CHILDREN DURING THE TEENAGE YEARS.
NOT BECAUSE I'M SOME SORT OF GURU ON RAISING CHILDREN, BUT RATHER BECAUSE I STOPPED.
AND THEREFORE WAS ABLE TO ENJOY THE RAISING OF THREE TEENAGERS WITHOUT ANY REAL ISSUES.
NOT THAT ISSUES DIDN'T COME, BUT HE GAVE ME THE ANSWER SO THAT THE THINGS THAT WERE TO COME WOULD NOT PASS AND WOULD NOT HAPPEN, BUT RATHER THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE WERE THERE.
GOD WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO EACH ONE OF YOU ALL.
I ASK AND I PRAY THAT HE GIVES YOU LISTENING EARS AS HE TRIES TO REACH OUR HEARTS, TO GIVE US WISDOM BEYOND OUR UNDERSTANDING, TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE TO COME BOTH PERSONALLY AS BY THE CITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TIM BLAND, FOLLOWED BY LORRAINE CUSUMANO.
GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL AND SUPPORT STAFF.
DID YOU ALL MISS ME? TWO WEEKS AGO I HAD COVID, UNFORTUNATELY.
SORRY, I'M HEALTHY NOW, SO I SURVIVED IT.
I'M HERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.
I MEAN, WE LOOK AT THE JULY 28TH FLORIDA TODAY ARTICLE.
I KNOW YOU'RE QUOTED IN IT, AS WAS THE POLICE CHIEF.
BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY AT 50% CAPACITY.
WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THAT ON TO THE POLICE.
AND I SHOULD INCLUDE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WOEFULLY BEHIND 241ST OUT OF 245 MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS A PALM BAY POLICE RESPONSE RANK.
I WAS HERE WHEN THE FIRE CHIEF GAVE THEIR PRESENTATION.
SO WHAT'S CAUSING ALL THIS? MY OPINION IS OVERDEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY BAY OVER DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY OF PALM BAY.
TONIGHT THERE'S FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
ON CHANGING TO COMP PLAN OR REZONING SOMETHING, AND I'M SURE THAT'S EVERY OTHER WEEK THERE'S SOMETHING BEING CHANGED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
NOW, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO SLOW DOWN AND LET INFRASTRUCTURE PICK UP FROM FLORIDA TODAY.
PALM BAY'S POPULATION GREW 18% DURING THE LAST DECADE, BUT CITY HALL INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND PERSONNEL, INCLUDING POLICE, HASN'T KEPT UP.
SO THE MORATORIUM VOTE, I KNOW THERE WAS TWO FOR IT, THREE AGAINST IT.
SO IT WAS DECLINED ON A PAUSING OF ANY LARGER SCALE DEVELOPMENTS.
I THINK IT WAS 30 OR 40 UNITS.
I PLEAD YOU TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT MORATORIUM.
PLEASE, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS.
LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS AND START SAYING NO, THANK YOU.
MS.. LORRAINE FIRST AND THEN DR.
MY NAME IS LORRAINE CASSIANO AND I'M A NEWER RESIDENT IN PALM BAY AND I HAVE SOME THINGS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT I HAVE A FEELING OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN. BUT THIS IS MY VERY NARROW FOCUS AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO MY COMMENTS.
THE NEW HOUSING STARTS IN PALM BAY ARE OUT OF CONTROL.
LOTS ARE COMPLETELY CLEARED OF ALL VEGETATION AND TREES.
THIS IS WRONG BECAUSE IT KILLS THE HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE, BIRDS AND INSECTS.
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WE ARE PAVING WHAT USED TO BE A PARADISE AND PUTTING UP A PARKING LOT.OTHER THINGS ARE BEING AFFECTED, LIKE THE WILDLIFE.
BUILDERS PUT IN THREE ANEMIC TREES AND MAYBE A FEW BUSHES TO TRY TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT THEY DESTROY.
WE NEED TO HALT NEW CONSTRUCTION, TAKE A PAUSE, PERHAPS FOR A YEAR OR SO UNTIL NEW LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PLANS CAN BE DESIGNED AND IMPLEMENTED. NOW I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS.
I DON'T USUALLY LIKE TO COME WITH A PROBLEM WITHOUT HAVING SOME SOLUTIONS.
AND FERTILIZERS BECAUSE THEY GO OUT INTO THE INDIAN RIVER.
AND A FEW BUGS NEVER HURT ANYBODY.
WE SHOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TREES AND PLANTINGS THAT THE BUILDERS ARE REQUIRED TO PUT, AND ALSO THEY SHOULD BE PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS WHICH USE LESS WATER AND REQUIRE LESS MAINTENANCE.
PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE WE COULD REQUIRE GREEN ACRE LOTS REQUIRED WITH PURCHASE OF A NORMAL LOT SO THAT YOU REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT BY 50%. THE GREEN LIGHT STAYS.
AND WHO CARES WHERE IT IS? BUT THEY CAN BUILD.
BUT YOU'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
I THINK WE SHOULD BAN FIREWORKS.
FIREWORKS POLLUTE. THE ONLY REDEEMING QUALITY IS 10 SECONDS OF PRETTY.
THEY MAKE AIR POLLUTION, REGULAR POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION.
WE HAVE VETERANS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED TONIGHT WITH PTSD WHO HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT.
AND WE KEEP THE HOUSE, KEEP THE TOWN BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S VERY HARD WHEN THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, SO OUT OF CONTROL.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SUSTAIN THE BEAUTY OF THE ENVIRONMENT IN PALM BAY, SOME THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE.
IT CAN MAKE THE WORLD BETTER AND IT CAN MAKE PALM BAY BETTER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I RESPECT YOU FOR YOUR.
DR. LISA SOTO, FOLLOWED BY FORMER MAYOR FRANK FILIBERTO.
I'M REALLY DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TODAY.
I CAME TO COMMEND YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MUCH BIGGER DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
I JUST THIS IS THRILLING TO ME.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL.
HURRAH! AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE TO TO TO COMMEND YOU ON MOVING FORWARD WITH EFFORTS, REALLY FIRST STEPS TO START IMPLEMENTING SOME MORE INNOVATIVE AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT SOLUTIONS.
SO AS AS WE PROCEED TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW TO HOW DO WE INSTEAD OF USING THOSE PER THOSE IMPERVIOUS MATERIALS THAT ARE GOING TO RESULT IN MORE STORM WATER AND POLLUTED WATER ENTERING THE LAGOON, HOW DO WE GET WATER BACK INTO THE GROUND? LAST YEAR MRC HELD THE FIRST LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE RIGHT HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY UP IN ROCKLEDGE.
MANY OF YOU WERE THERE, YOUR STAFFS WERE THERE.
I'M SO PLEASED THAT YOU TOOK AWAY MOMENTUM AND IMAGINATION AND THE INITIATIVE TO START THE PROCESS HERE WITH A MANUAL THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON WITH A A CODE THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON WITH THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO CONSIDER TODAY.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU TO KEEP PUSHING THAT FORWARD.
THIS YEAR, IN OCTOBER, THE SAME TIME FRAME AROUND THE COUNCILMAN'S BIRTHDAY, WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN.
SO LAST YEAR YOU ALL SAID, HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE? HOW DO WE CHANGE OUR CODE? SO WE'RE BRINGING THE EXPERTS DOWN ONCE AGAIN.
DR. EVAN BEAN FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA HAS GOT A TOOL HE'S DEVELOPED WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE CLEAN WATERWAYS ACT THAT REQUIRES LEAD TO START TO BE IMPLEMENTED DURING DEVELOPMENT PHASE.
AND HOW DO YOU CHANGE THOSE REGS SO THAT IT BECOMES A SURE THING THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN TO DO DEVELOPMENT, THEY'VE GOT TO FOLLOW YOUR BUILDING CODES AND IT'S GOING TO COME OUT BEAUTIFULLY. IT'S GOING TO COME OUT AS LEED IS GOING TO COME OUT AS GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
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MAKING IT A MUCH MORE GREEN AND BEAUTIFUL PLACE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO LIVE.SO THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASPIRING FOR.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I'LL SEE YOU ON OCTOBER 20, 21 IN ROCKLEDGE.
THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK TO YOU GUYS.
SO. FRANK FILIBERTO, MAYOR, COULD HE BE OUTSIDE? I'LL GO. WE'LL COME BACK.
WE'LL COME BACK. IF HE'S STILL HERE, I'LL MISS SUSAN CONNOLLY.
SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS US AND SO ADDRESS US.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN MY COMMENTS BY WE THE CITIZENS.
WE, THE CITIZENS, ARE HERE TONIGHT.
WE, THE CITIZENS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
TONIGHT. MOST OF IT IS A NO TO CHANGES BEING REQUESTED BY DEVELOPERS FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT AND ASK WE, THE CITIZENS, TO COME AND SPEAK UP WITH A YES WITH WHAT WE DO WANT.
I WANT TO ASK EVERY PERSON HERE WEARING A RED SHIRT.
TO PICK UP ONE OF THESE CARDS AND TO.
SAY TO THE COUNCIL, WHAT WE WHAT I WANT AND WHAT THIS IS, IS INPUT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WHAT WILL DIRECT THE FUTURE OF OUR.
CITY. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING NOW.
WE ARE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS OUTDATED AND DOES NOT REFLECT WHO WE ARE TODAY.
AND IT'S JUST I WANT TO TELL EVERY RED SHIRT IN HERE TO MAKE A COMMENT TONIGHT THAT IS POSITIVE AND REFLECTS WHAT YOU WANT, NOT WHAT YOU DON'T WANT.
AND I'M GLAD TO HELP AND SHOW YOU HOW EASY THIS CARD WORKS.
PUT YOUR RANT TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.
I'D LIKE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND APOLOGIZE FOR MY ACTIONS ON APRIL 7TH.
I BROKE ENTIRELY THE RULES OF ROBERTS.
I REALIZE THAT I STAND BEHIND MY REMARKS.
BUT I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO COUNCIL STAFF AND OTHER CITIZENS THAT OBSERVED THAT.
GOT TO. YOU GUYS WANT TO SHORTEN YOUR MEETINGS? PUT A TIME LIMIT ON YOURSELVES.
YOU KNOW, YOU GET UP HERE AND YAK FOR A HALF HOUR.
PUT A TIME LIMIT ON YOURSELVES.
IT'S MY FIRST TIME COMING TO A COUNCIL MEETING HERE.
AND I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH EVERYTHING UNTIL EVEN WITH THE OPENING PRAYER, I WAS FINE.
AND THEN SOMEBODY STOOD HERE AND WAS READING OUT OF A BIBLE AND PREACHED THE RELIGION TO US.
WHAT HAPPENED TO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?
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SO. SO I GOT TO SAY, YOU DOING IT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND IT'S WRONG.I DON'T COME TO A STATE COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'RE A TOWNSHIP MEETING TO HEAR RELIGION.
I GO TO CHURCH TO HEAR RELIGION.
AND I DON'T. I FEEL YOU'RE NOT DOING SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? YES, IT DOES. FOR NOW.
I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE FROM ME IN THE FUTURE.
OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS AND INCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]
WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 17 AND 18. BLOCK 2222 WORK MALABAR UNIT 44.
ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 21, PAGE 144 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD.
MISS KENNEDY IN. IT'LL EITHER BE MS..
I KNOW HE WAS OUTSIDE, SO I'M NOT SURE IF HE SAW DANIEL KENNEDY IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE.
IF YOU'RE HEARING. OH, ALL RIGHT.
SO WE SOMEHOW WE NEED TO TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE KENNEDYS.
YEAH. WAIT, SO THE SPEAKER SYSTEM'S NOT WORKING OUT FOR.
MR. FILIBERTO BE OUT THERE AS WELL.
OKAY. WELL, I WANT TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COUNSEL YOU.
WE'VE BEEN BRIEFED. THIS IS A FINAL READING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS VACATE.
OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION APPROVED WORD IS 2020 275 FINAL READING.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
PLEASE TELL THE KENNEDYS THEY'RE VACATING.
THEY CAN. WHAT IS IT? WAS IT A POOL? WAS IT A SCREEN PORCH AS YOU WERE? WE'RE AN ITEM NUMBER TWO, ORDINANCE 2022 DAS 77, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PREVENTING PROVIDING FOR A REFERENDUM ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING WHETHER THE CITY CHARTER SHOULD BE AMENDED, PROVIDING FOR THE PLACEMENT OF EIGHT REFERENDUM ITEMS ON THE BALLOT.
PROVIDING THE TEXT OF THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS IN THE CITY CLERK TO PROVIDE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS WITH A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE PUBLISHED IN THE REFERENDUM ITEMS IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL CALLS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AFTER THE FIRST READING, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THERE WAS A SCRIBNER'S ERROR AND THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THE FIRST SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE REGARDING SECTION FOUR DID NOT MATCH THE REFERENDUM LANGUAGE AND THAT CHANGE WAS MADE AND IT IS NOTED ON THE LANGUAGE.
IT JUST WAS INCORRECTLY WRITTEN.
I DID WANT TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. KELSO, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? MAYOR. MAYOR, ONE QUESTION.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO JUST WANTED TO STATE WAS THE ORDINANCE WRONG ON NUMBER FOUR? WAS IT THE QUESTION FOR THE BALLOT? THE QUESTION FOR THE BALLOT DIDN'T MATCH SECTION FOUR, WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE.
THE SECTION FOUR ON THE ORDINANCE WAS FINE.
IT'S JUST AN ERROR WAS ON THE ON THE BALLOT QUESTION.
YES. AND IF YOU SEE, IT'S ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED WHAT THE CHANGE WAS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM ATTORNEY.
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AND I DON'T AGREE.AND AND SO I'LL BE A NO ON THIS.
I WON'T SUPPORT IT. I HADN'T SUPPORTED IT.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE PASSED.
SO ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS OR IS ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OK SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED AUGUST 20, 2277 FINAL READING.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR.
MEDINA. NAY, WE ARE NOW GOING TO ITEMS. BY. YEAH.
WE ARE GOING TO FIVE, SIX, SEVEN NOW.
SMITH. SPRING 2022 DASH 80 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY KNOWN AS KINNEY AVENUE, NORTHEAST LINE BETWEEN ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AND THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD RAILWAY, AS RECORDED IN A TWO PAGE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING IS.
AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU MOVING ME UP IN THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I HOPE THIS WILL BE BRIEF.
THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.
THIS IS TO PUT TOGETHER A PARCELS FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS AN UNIMPROVED RIGHT OF WAY THAT DOES NOT PROVIDE ACCESS TO ANY LOTS THAT WOULD THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR A VACATE.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT APPROVAL FROM ALL THE UTILITY COMPANIES THAT HAVE NO OBJECTION.
AND WE WOULD IT WOULD GO TO THE PARCELS ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ON THE NEXT TWO ITEMS. OR TO BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE PIECES TOGETHER WITH THE PIECES ACROSS THE STREET TO CREATE THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND ALSO ANY QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT.
AND YOU CAN YOU CONSENT TO ALL OF STAFF'S CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE YES OR.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE AFRICAN COUNCIL SEEING NONE.
MADAM. MADAM BROWN, AS YOU WERE.
ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS. STAFF SUPPORTS THE REQUEST.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVAL.
IT IS 2020 TO 80 FIRST READING TO INCLUDE STAFF'S CONDITIONS.
SECOND NOTES FROM MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SO YOU'RE NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER SIX AUGUST 20, 22.
CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BRUCE FOYER AGAIN.
SO THIS IS THE THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR THE COMPLAINT AMENDMENT TO GO TO BE WNMU FOR THE PROPERTY.
I DID WANT TO THIS WAS APPROVED TO P AND Z AND THIS DID COME UP AT P AND Z.
AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE EXHIBIT IN YOUR THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET IS IS SLIGHTLY OFF.
WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THE PARCEL WHERE THE POND IS, BUT THE ADVERTISEMENT WAS, WAS, WAS OKAY.
THE STAFF CHECKED IT AND IT WAS ADVERTISED PROPERLY.
IT JUST DIDN'T GET FIXED IN THE IN YOUR PACKET ON THE EXHIBIT.
BUT IT'S THE PIECE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU JUST PROPOSED TO VACATE AND THE PIECE TO THE SOUTH OF THAT RIGHT AWAY THAT YOU PROPOSED VACATE AND THAT SMALL TRIANGLE PIECE TO THE NORTHWEST OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
THE POND WILL STILL REMAIN PROPERTY OF THE CITY.
WE'LL KEEP THE SAME ZONING AND LAND USE THAT IT HAS.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION OR COMMENTS I HAVE.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? KELSO. MADAM BROWN, ANY COMMENTS? SADDAM RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL BY P AND Z AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED CASE P DASH 27, 2022.
SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
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ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? CNN ALL IN FAVOR.ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY PARTY COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING A SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION IN THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
THE HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
A CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM B MOVIE BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT TO BE A MEU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL IN THE VICINITY WEST OF DIXIE HIGHWAY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDED FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST BOY, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD.
IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AT P AND Z AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? ANY COMMENTS, MADAM BROWN? WHETHER COMMENTS. THE ONLY THING IS THE COMMERCIAL PIECE AT THE SAME TIME, SIR.
THANK YOU. JUST JUST WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD.
HEY, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.
MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 282 FIRST READING.
SET IN MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON STANDING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
MY APOLOGIES. MY APOLOGIES, SIR.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE GOING ON ITEMS THREE.
HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT, FIVE MINUTE RECESS BEFORE WE BEGIN.
THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND EVEN MORE.
OVERALL, I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
JUST WANTED TO POLICE SOMETHING BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM THREE.
WE DO HAVE A SECTION IN OUR AGENDA THAT'S CALLED PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANY CITIZEN HAS THE RIGHT TO COME UP AND SHARE WHATEVER IS ON THEIR MIND.
THAT IS PART OF OUR PROCESS, THAT IS PART OF OUR FREEDOMS THAT MANY OF OUR VETERANS HAVE FOUGHT FOR.
SO, PLEASE, I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT INFORMATION ON.
SO NOW WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'LL START ON ITEM THREE, MADAM SMITH, OR IT IS 2022, 78, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL
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OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.I'LL TELL. EVENING MAY YOUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT CROWN HOLDING BACKGROUND IN THIS APPLICATION.
I'LL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON CROWN HOLDING.
CROWN HOLDING. THEY CERTAINLY HAVE AN INVOLVEMENT IN THIS CITY ALREADY.
SO CERTAINLY THEY HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY ALREADY.
THEY ARE 37 MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST, 11,800 APARTMENT UNITS, 20 RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS, EIGHT MIXED USE PROPERTIES IN 2000 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO CERTAINLY THESE ARE NOT NEOPHYTES.
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE EXPERIENCE AND DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED 17.14 ACRES.
IT'S LOCATED SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD.
THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2102 LADNER STREET.
THE SURROUNDING USES TO THE NORTH IS RS TWO SINGLE FAMILY.
THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT SEPARATED BY THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN DRAINAGE CANAL.
TO THE EAST IS RS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THEY WILL BE SEPARATED AS WE GO INTO LITTLE AND A LITTLE BIT BY A RETENTION AREA.
SO THERE'D BE ABOUT A 300 FOOT SEPARATION FROM THIS PROJECT TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
TO THE SOUTH IS RS TWO RESIDENTIAL THAT IS VACANT.
TO THE WEST IS INSTITUTIONAL USES.
THAT'S VACANT I'M SORRY, THAT'S OWNED BY HOMES REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER.
IT ALLOWS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.
SINGLE FAMILY. THE REQUEST IS, OF COURSE, THIS FIRST IS A SMALL, SMALL SCALE, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THERE WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU HAVE COPIES OF.
I WANT TO JUST GO FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STAFF FOUND IN THEIR STUDIES.
THEY FELT THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD ALLOW MORE DEFINITIVE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN ZONING DISTRICTS, THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL INCREASE DENSITY IN AN AREA WITH A MIXTURE OF USES THAT WILL PROMOTE MORE WALKABILITY AND REDUCE URBAN SPRAWL.
THIS IS AN INFILL. THIS IS NOT AT THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY LIMITS.
THIS IS AN INFILL, EXISTING PROPERTY.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE, PLEASE.
IT WILL NOT IT WILL NOT EXPAND THE SERVICES BEYOND THE EXISTING CITY LIMITS.
IT WILL NOT BE NEW PROJECTS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY.
THEY ALSO FOUND THAT OUR TEAM IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S DESIRE AND PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT, AND TO STATE THAT DUE TO THE INCREASING DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPTIONS AND SURROUNDING MIX OF USES, THEY FELT THAT IT ADVANCES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ELEMENTS TO ENSURE A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES AS WELL AS ACCESSIBLE, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY ALSO FIND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL FURTHER PURPOSES OF CHAPTER 185.
BASED UPON THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE STAFF COMMENTS INTO THIS PRESENTATION.
THIS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD ON JULY SIX, 2022.
IT WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING BY 4 TO 1 VOTE.
LET ME SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROJECT.
AGAIN, TO THE WEST YOU HAVE THE HOMES REGIONAL, YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE EAST.
BUT THERE WILL BE A BUFFER OF ABOUT 300 FEET BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY.
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AGAIN, THERE'LL BE THE RETENTION POND TO THE EAST THAT WILL BUFFER IT FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.IT WILL BE A GATED RENTAL COMMUNITY WITH AMENITIES, POOL, WALKING PATHS.
EACH COTTAGE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 1000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND I'LL GO INTO THAT FOR A MINUTE AS TO WHY THE SIZE OF THOSE APPLY.
IT WILL BE A HIGH RENTAL, HIGH RENTAL AREA WITH COTTAGES AND VALUE OF APPROXIMATELY $400,000.
IT'S GEARED TO INDIVIDUALS OR A COUPLE.
THE COST OF THE PROJECT WILL BE IN EXCESS OF $25 MILLION.
FIRST, IT'S ADJACENT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO HEALTH.
FIRST COMPLEX TO THE WHICH IS ADJACENT IS ADJACENT TO THAT COMPLEX.
THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH HEALTH FIRST.
THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
THEY FEEL THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RENTAL UNITS TO SERVE THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY FIND EITHER PROFESSIONALS OR NEW INDIVIDUALS COMING IN AND LOOKING FOR RENTAL UNITS.
CURRENTLY THE OTHER BENEFIT THERE IS A SEWER LINE SERVING HEALTH FIRST THAT IT DEAD ENDS AT THAT PROJECT AT THAT PROPERTY THIS PROPERTY WILL RUN FOR THIS PROJECT WILL END UP RUNNING A WATER LINE FROM BABCOCK STREET TO THE DISCUSSIONS.
THERE'S DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY ENGINEERS ON LOOPING THE WATER LINE WITH HEALTH FIRST.
THE PROBLEM IS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE HEALTH FIRST IS ON A DEAD END LINE, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH A WATER AND MALABAR ROAD, THAT WOULD STOP THE WATER ON THE WATER SERVICE TO TO THE HEALTH FIRST BY LOOPING THE WATER LINE.
THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME REDUNDANCY AND IT WOULD PROTECT THE WATER, MAKING CERTAIN THAT THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE SOURCE OF WATER, NOTWITHSTANDING AN ACCIDENT OR SOME OTHER PROBLEM WITH THE EXISTING LINE. ALPHAS ALSO INDICATED THAT THEY NEED RENTAL FOR EMPLOYEES, AND EMPLOYEES ARE LOOKING FOR PROXIMITY FOR RENTALS AND A CLOSE DISTANCE.
THE OTHER BENEFIT OF THIS, OF COURSE, WOULD BE THAT THE EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE IN THAT LOCATION, BECAUSE THE HEALTH FIRST IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK TO TO WORK. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO USE GAS.
CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE THAT WOULD REDUCE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.
THEY'D MUCH MORE RATHER WALK TO WORK RATHER THAN TO DRIVE.
I HEARD SOME OF THE PEOPLE TALKING BEFORE ABOUT THE GROWTH IN THE CITY.
CERTAINLY, I UNDERSTAND WHEN I MOVED HERE, THERE WERE 7500 PEOPLE HERE A LONG TIME AGO.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR EVERYONE, EVERYONE'S PARTICIPATION AND DUE RESPECT.
WE SHOULD ALL BE LISTENING TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
BUT THAT IS A RESPECTFUL OPTION.
BUT I THINK EVERY SPEAKER DESERVES THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN THIS.
CARRY ON, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
AND I THINK ALL OF US HAVE SEEN THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION, SOME OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN, AND CERTAINLY ME, MYSELF ALSO WONDERED HOW MANY HOW MANY APARTMENTS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS STATE OF FLORIDA IS AN AREA WHERE MANY PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE ARE COMING.
SO APPARENTLY THE APARTMENTS ARE NEEDED.
IT'S A UNIQUE TYPE OF SITUATION, UNIQUE PROJECT, BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE COTTAGES.
IT'LL BE FOR FOR EITHER PROFESSIONALS OR ONE OR TWO INDIVIDUALS.
THERE WERE SOME OBJECTIONS VOICED AT PAG PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND I TOOK THOSE COMMENTS DOWN.
I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.
INITIALLY, THE CURRENT ZONING IS ASKED TO THAT ALLOWS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE OR 85 UNITS.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S EXISTING ZONING.
JUST A REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY LOT ON AN 80 FOOT LOT.
THOSE GENERALLY HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS.
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IT'S NOT THE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT WHERE YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO RESIDENTS OR YOU HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS, TEENAGERS, DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.THE CHANCES OF HAVING MORE VEHICLES THERE TO GO ON THE ROAD IS GREATER WITHIN THE RS2 THAN IT WOULD BE IN THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE 1000 SQUARE FEET. MUCH OF THE MARKET WILL BE HEALTH FOR EMPLOYEES.
THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.
SO EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE MORE UNITS HERE, 126 UNITS THAN YOU COULD POSSIBLY GET IN THERE WITH AN RS2 ZONING, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GENERATED WOULD BE LESS BY THESE UNITS THAN WOULD BE OTHERWISE.
PALM BAY CODE REQUIRES CERTAIN LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
IT WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT FLOODING, WHETHER THE HEIGHT A LOT CERTAINLY.
CODE AND ST JOHN'S REQUIRES THAT THAT POST DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT NOT EXCEED PRE DEVELOPMENT.
SO CERTAINLY THIS DEVELOPMENT CANNOT PUT ADDITIONAL WATER ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
SO I MENTIONED THE ISSUE OF CRIME IN THEIR PROPERTY WHERE THEY'RE HAVING THAT ISSUE WITH CRIME.
AGAIN, THIS IS 1000 SQUARE FOOT AND WILL BE HIGH END RENTAL.
IT WOULD NOT MADE FOR FAMILIES.
THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT IMPACT ON HOME VALUES AND IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
CERTAINLY, GENERALLY, WHEN YOU HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION, THAT DOESN'T REDUCE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, THESE THESE HOMES AND IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD AND I ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT CERTAINLY THE VALUE OF THE HOMES, THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE CERTAINLY GREATER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE THERE.
AND CERTAINLY THAT WOULD NOT DECREASE THE VALUE OF THE HOMES SURROUNDING HOMES.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY.
THERE'S GOING TO BE AMENITIES.
IT'S GOING TO BE PROFESSIONALS.
CERTAINLY WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL REDUCE THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACT, THE HOMES.
THOSE THAT MY COMMENTS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS INTRODUCE A COUPLE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE WITH US.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE WITH ME TODAY THE PRINCIPAL OF CROWN, THE DEVELOPER, THE PROJECT ENGINEER, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THE PROJECT ARCHITECT. SO HOPEFULLY, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER AMONG US.
SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU WHATEVER ANSWERS YOU NEED.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MR. JIM TRAUGER, WHO'S A PROJECT ENGINEER, COME FORWARD, AND THEN AFTER THAT I'LL ASK THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER COME FORWARD AND MAKE A COMMENT TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS.
MY NAME IS JIM TRAGER WITH TRIGGER CONSULTING OUT OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
I'M A STATE LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
GRADUATE OF BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CIVIL ENGINEERING.
THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL FLORIDA.
I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE AREA HERE IN DEVELOPMENT SINCE AROUND 2005.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF OF MY EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA, I WILL FORWARD SOME OF THESE SLIDES WE PUT TOGETHER JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES AND VISUALS OF OF THE VISION OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THIS FIRST SLIDE JUST KIND OF GIVES A MORE OF A ZOOMED OUT VIEW.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT MR. SPEIER WAS WAS SPEAKING ON.
THERE'S THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO THE EAST AND THE NORTH.
AS YOU MENTIONED, ALSO, STAFF FOUND THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING AMENDMENT TO BE A GOOD TRANSITIONAL ZONING DISTRICT AND LAND USE FOR THIS KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL EXCUSE ME, INSTITUTIONAL USE AND THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THE OTHER AERIAL PICTURE SHOWN HERE JUST KIND OF GIVES ANOTHER ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING SOUTH AND KIND OF ILLUSTRATES AND HIGHLIGHTS HOW FAR BACK WE PUSH THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS WITH THIS.
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KIND OF GOES THROUGH SOME OF THE SOME OF THEM KIND OF GENERAL ITEMS. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE, AGAIN, IS, AS YOU GUYS ALL WELL KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS.OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT, BUT THE NEXT STEPS FROM HERE WOULD BE TO MEET WITH THE ENGINEERING STAFF, TO WORK WITH ST JOHNS, WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THE MELBOURNE WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, AND REALLY IRON OUT ALL THE DETAILS AT THAT POINT.
THIS NEXT SLIDE, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A ZOOMED IN VIEW OF THE PROJECT.
WE JUST KIND OF LISTED SOME QUICK FACTS THERE.
THIS IS A GATED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY CLASS, A DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE ONLY LOOKING TO DO ONE AND TWO STORY PRODUCT HERE.
THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A LARGE MULTI FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THESE ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT.
BUT THE CURRENT ZONING AND THE CURRENT LAND USE DOES NOT ALLOW MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON A PROPERTY.
THAT IS THE THAT'S THE NEED FOR THIS CHANGE.
THERE WILL BE A NICE RESORT STYLE AMENITY IN ADDITION TO THE POND BUFFERING.
I DO KNOW IT'S IT'S A PRETTY HEAVILY WOODED SITE CURRENTLY.
AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT TIME WITH ENGINEERING, WE OF COURSE WILL WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN THERE TO PRESERVE ANY OF THE LARGE TREES TO TO INCREASE THE BUFFERING TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL.
BE A NICE RESORT STYLE AMENITY CENTER WITH WE'RE ANTICIPATING A PARTNERSHIP WITH HEALTH FIRST, MAYBE A LOT OF THEIR STAFF LIVING HERE, THEIR NURSES AND OTHER SUPPORT STAFF.
A COUPLE OTHER THIS IS JUST KIND OF ANOTHER ANOTHER RENDERING OF A CONCEPT FOR FOR THE AMENITIES HERE POOLS THE USUAL STUFF IT'S IT'S FLORIDA IT'S HOT IT'S AUGUST YOU WANT YOU WANT TO BE IN WATER.
I DO MYSELF THIS TIME OF YEAR.
SO A POOL IS PRETTY MUCH A NO BRAINER HERE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS GIVES A VIEW OF KIND OF THE INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THE WITH THE VILLAS HERE.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S VERY MUCH A RESIDENTIAL STYLE LOOK, NOT AN APARTMENT, BUT THEY ARE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT FOR MORE OF A WORKING PROFESSIONAL OR AN EMPTY NEST FAMILY.
JUST ANOTHER ANOTHER LOOK KIND OF GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF THE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE AND ANOTHER VIEW OF KIND OF THE PARKING AREA. I THINK YOU GET TO GET THE GET THE IDEA HERE OF WHAT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO.
AND THIS LAST IS JUST ANOTHER ZOOMED IN COLOR RENDERING OF OF OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE.
YOU KNOW, MR. SPEAR SAID IS CORRECT.
THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED FOR THE UTILITIES, WATER AND SEWER.
BOTH NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE SITE.
WE HAVE WORKED, SPOKEN WITH UTILITY STAFF HERE.
SOME OF THEM ARE UNDERSIZED, LOOPING, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES SOME REDUNDANCY, BUT ALSO YOU'LL GET A LITTLE BIT OF BETTER WATER QUALITY OUT OF IT BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE SEPARATE SOURCES WHERE THERE'LL BE MORE CIRCULATION OF THE WATER AND THE SEWER AS WELL.
THERE'S AN FPL EASEMENT AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY RUNNING DOWN SOME OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS.
AND WE INTEND TO WORK WITH YOUR ENGINEERING AND UTILITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, PINNING YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE ENGINEERING AND PERMITTING PROCESS. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THAT IS, IS THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR AND CONSTRUCT THESE OFF SITE UTILITIES, BUT THEY WOULD BE IN THE END DEEDED OVER TO THE CITY.
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SO I FEEL THAT IS A GOOD IMPROVEMENT TO THE CITY THAT THIS WOULD BRING TO TO THE CITY FOR THAT.AND THAT IS WHY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THIS LARGE STORMWATER POND.
WE'RE PROPOSING A WET POND THAT CAN REALLY HOLD A LOT OF WATER FROM FROM LARGE STORM EVENTS.
AND WHAT I ENVISION ON THIS IS, IS AS PART OF THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, AS IT'S CALLED, A STORMWATER HARVESTING SYSTEM WHERE THEY INCORPORATE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM ON SITE, THEY DON'T REALLY DISCHARGE MUCH OF ANY WATER OFF OF THE SITE.
THEY USE THAT FOR THE IRRIGATION ON ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT VIRTUALLY REMOVES ALL POLLUTANTS LEAVING THE SITE BECAUSE IT'S RETAINED ON SITE.
SO IT IMPROVES THE WATER QUALITY AND WATER QUANTITY LEAVING THE SITE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY TIE INTO THE LAGOON, THIS CANAL THAT WE WOULD BE ADJACENT TO OTHERWISE DISCHARGING INTO THE QUALITY OF THE WATER RUNNING OFF THERE WOULD BE MUCH GREATER WITH THIS KIND OF SYSTEM. WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TURN IT OVER TO MY OTHER COLLEAGUES HERE.
THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH HEIFER'S.
YES. AND IN THAT COMMUNICATION, WAS THAT ROUTE GOING THROUGH THE HOSPITAL CONCERNED THAT THE EXISTING CORRIDOR.
WAS THAT CONSIDERED IN THAT DISCUSSION WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE EAST OR ON THE WEST SIDE, AS YOU SO ELOQUENTLY STATED? HEALTH FIRST WOULD WANT SOME OF THESE AMENITIES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
IS IT DID YOU DISCUSS WITH THAT COMMENT? I'M THINKING MAYBE THAT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR YOU TO PARTNER WITH HEALTH FIRST TO CREATE THAT QUARTER THAT SO THAT NOTHING ELSE IS DISTURBED. YOU'RE YOU'RE COMING IN FROM MALABAR.
SURE. NO. YOU KNOW, WE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
BUT IT IS IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
WE'RE JUST STARTING THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING RESEARCH.
THERE ARE SOME EASEMENTS THROUGH THERE.
THE WATERLINE ON MED PLEX PARKWAY IS A PUBLIC WATER LINE.
WHEN THAT WHOLE PROPERTY WAS PLATTED, THERE ARE SOME EASEMENTS THROUGH THERE, BUT IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO WE CAN'T FORCE THEIR HAND TO PUT THAT, SIR.
THE QUESTION WAS, BASED ON YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HOW.
FIRST, I'VE HEARD TWICE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE YOU'VE SURVEYED HEALTH FIRST ABOUT THE PROJECT.
BUT STILL, MY QUESTION IS VALID.
IF IF THAT WAS POSSIBLE, THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION, QUITE FRANKLY.
IF IF IF I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND THEY WERE ENGAGING, YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
PART OF THAT QUESTION WOULD BE, CAN I USE THE ACCESS THAT YOU HAVE CURRENTLY? CAN I TAP INTO THAT? THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED WITH A DEFINITIVE ANSWER AT THIS POINT.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? ALSO, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WAS AWAY FOR THE TRAFFIC, BUT THAT'S A GREAT POINT YOU BROUGHT UP, MAYOR.
I WAS IN WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYST TO BRING THAT POINT UP.
YEAH. THE OTHER ONE I WANT TO BRING UP REGARDING THE TRAFFIC SO TO THE MIC.
SO REGARDING THE THE THAT THE TRAFFIC THERE BESIDES THE HEALTH FIRST ENTRANCE WHICH THE MAYOR SO ELOQUENTLY PUT, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ENTRANCE THAT COULD BE ENTRANCE FOR FALLON BOULEVARD AND THAT IS ADMIRAL DRIVE NORTHEAST.
SO I FEEL IF WE EXTEND ADMIRAL DRIVE OR THE DEVELOPER EXTENDED ADMIRAL DRIVE NORTHEAST ALL THE WAY TO MALABAR ROAD, THIS WILL OPEN UP FALLON TO HELP NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORS ON FALLON WHO ALREADY LIVE ON FALLON TO GO BOTH WAYS, EITHER IN MALABAR ROAD OR TO BABCOCK STREET, BUT ALSO YOUR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
IF YOUR DEVELOPMENT WAS TO BE OR.
I'M JUST DOING AN INQUIRY HERE, SO PLEASE, NO COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. PLEASE, NO COMMENT.
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HAPPEN WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING AND THEY HAVE A FULL STUDY TO GO THROUGH.AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
I DON'T YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A WE'RE ENTERTAINING ALL OPTIONS HERE.
WE WANT TO BE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT.
SO I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
BUT I MAY LET THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT BETTER.
THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO BRING UP TO YOU MY MY OTHER QUESTION IS TO YOU DO HAVE 17.14 ACRES.
HOW MANY OF THOSE ACRES ARE WETLANDS OF WETLANDS? WE HAD A STUDY DONE.
IT'S IT'S IT WASN'T IT WAS MAYBE AN ACRE, ACRE OR TWO.
BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK AND I'LL I'LL I'LL, I'LL GET THE INFORMATION BACK.
I'LL HAVE A SEAT. AND I THINK I HAVE A I HAVE THE FILE.
THANK YOU. I CAN RESPOND WITH THAT.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILOR FELIX.
THANK YOU. I BELIEVE YOU COVERED.
COVERED. MY CONCERN WAS YOU ALREADY ASKED THAT QUESTION REGARDING THAT THAT POSSIBLE ENTRANCE OR EXIT THROUGH THE FIRST PROPERTY WHICH WHICH I THINK IT'S A GREAT, GREAT I MIKE, I'LL BE QUITE HONEST.
I KNOW IT'S EARLY ON AS PRESENTED RIGHT NOW.
I COULDN'T REALLY SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD.
COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
YOU SAID THAT HEALTH FORCE WORKERS CAN WALK TO WORK.
WELL, DID YOU SAY THAT? I BELIEVE IT WAS SAID IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT I HEARD I MATTER.
YEAH. SO THEN FAST, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LOOKING AT THIS MAP, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO WALK TO WORK? THEY'RE GOING TO GO. EXPLAIN THAT TO ME A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK A FEW SLIDES WHERE THERE'S A ZOOMED OUT.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. SO ON OUR EASTERN PROPERTY LINE THERE, IT'S KIND OF OFF THE SHEET, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER THAT'S METROPLEX PARKWAY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HEALTH FIRST.
BUT THAT CONNECTION FROM OUR SOUTHWEST CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY OVER TO BED, FLEX PARKWAY, THERE COULD BE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS SIDEWALK THROUGH THERE THAT WOULD TAKE THEM TO METROPLEX.
AND THEN THAT IS THE SAME ROAD THAT THE HOSPITAL CAMPUS IS ON.
YEAH, BUT THIS KIND OF SHOWS IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THAT WOULD BE A A REASONABLE CONNECTION TO METROPLEX.
AND THEN DOWN SOUTH TO THE TO THE HEALTH FIRST FACILITY.
IF YOU'RE TALKING TO HEALTH FIRST.
ARE YOU PROVIDING A WALKWAY OR ARE YOU CREATING A WALK? ARE YOU GOING TO THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO DO A WALKWAY FOR THEM TO WALK BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING YET.
RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T MAKE A COMMITMENT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE IDEA TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THE TWO.
THAT WOULD BE FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE THE MOST DIRECT ROUTE.
YEAH. BUT HAVE YOU HAD THEM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT? YES, WE'VE WE'VE I WAS PRESENT ON ONE PHONE CALL WITH SENIOR HEALTH FIRST STAFF, BUT THERE WAS NO RESOLUTION ON THAT CALL.
IT WAS REALLY AN INTRODUCTION TO THE PROJECT.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY HAVING ISSUES STAFFING BECAUSE OF THAT.
PLEASE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I GET THE POINT THAT HEALTH FIRST NEEDS STAFFING.
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WE GOT HOTELS IN PALM BAY THAT'S FULL WITH JUST TRAVEL NURSES.SO YOUR APARTMENT WILL BENEFIT FROM THAT.
YOUR PROJECT WOULD BENEFIT, HEALTH FIRST WOULD BENEFIT AND YOUR PROJECT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT.
I GET THAT POINT WHEN THEY SAID TO EMPLOYEES AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE A NURSE COME IN OR OR A HEALTH PROFESSIONAL OR DOCTOR COME IN FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN LEAVE.
YOU KNOW. QYOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE FOOT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S GOT TO IT'S GOT TO BE IN UNISON.
TO BOTH OF YOU HOW TO BENEFIT FROM IT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH VERSUS GOING TO THE EMPLOYEES.
IT'S A POTENTIAL CUSTOMER STAYING AT THESE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THEY'VE YOU TALKING ABOUT 126 UNITS, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING.
SO EVEN IF HALF OF THAT IS HEALTH FIRST EMPLOYEES.
EVERY 8 HOURS TO GET THE HEALTH FIRST OR TO GET TO HOMES, REGIONAL OR WHEREVER THEY MIGHT GO.
I'M. EXCITED TO HAVE MORE HEALTH PROFESSIONALS COME TO PALM BAY.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT SAFE.
AND AND IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME YOU GOT TO DO SOME MORE TALKING WITH HEALTH FIRST.
BUT I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY.
I'M GOING TO HOLD MY COMMENTS TO THE END, BUT THANK YOU.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. THANK YOU.
I KNOW THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO HEAR FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
SO UNLESS YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE YOUR COMMENTS AND PRESENTATION, PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE HAVE HIM COME UP AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME. AGREED.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.
I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WORKING WITH LASSITER TRANSPORTATION GROUP.
I'M A CEO OF THE COMPANY, AND I'M ALSO A HOMEGROWN PALM BAY.
I WENT TO CHRISTA MCAULIFFE ELEMENTARY, SOUTHWEST JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL, GRADUATED FROM FLORIDA TECH WITH MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CIVIL ENGINEERING, AND I NEVER LEFT. SO I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO HELP PRESENT THE RESULTS OF A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION OF THE TRAFFIC FOR THE SUBJECT DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK THE BIG QUESTION ON EVERYBODY'S MIND IS, WELL, WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THE IMPACTS ON ON THE PROJECT? AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE NUMBER 124, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ISN'T RANDOM, BECAUSE WHAT IT WHAT THEY'VE BASICALLY DONE IS THEY'VE TAKEN THE 85 UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED UNDER THIS ZONING TODAY.
AND THEY FIGURED OUT THEY ASK US TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY TRIPS THAT WOULD GENERATE.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANY MORE THAN THAT.
AND WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? THAT NUMBER IS 124.
OKAY. NOW, WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING IS BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE TYPE OF PRODUCT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH THREE OR FOUR CARS OUT FRONT BECAUSE THERE'S A FAMILY AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO THEIR SEPARATE PLACES WHEN THEY GET UP IN THE MORNING AND COMING HOME.
RIGHT. SO THE TRIP GENERATION RATE IS A LOT LOWER.
SO WHAT IS IT, 85 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT TODAY CAN GENERATE.
ESSENTIALLY 434 TRIPS PER DAY.
THAT IS IN MY BUSINESS, NOT A LOT OF TRIPS.
WE HAVE CERTAIN DE MINIMIS STANDARDS.
THE CITY HAS CERTAIN DE MINIMIS STANDARDS.
HOWEVER. WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CITY.
THE CITY WANTS TO GET A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY DONE.
AND WE HAVE SAID ABSOLUTELY WE WILL DO THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
SO 124 DWELLING UNITS, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING LOW RISE WILL GENERATE 435 DAILY TRIPS.
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ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY.870. I WAS READING THE WRONG COLUMN.
SORRY, SORRY. I WAS READING THE WRONG COLUMN.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS 870 SORRY, MY, MY FAULT ON GETTING THE, THE WRONG COLUMN.
SO WE'RE OFF BY ONE TRIP, RIGHT? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS WHEN EVERYONE'S GOING TO WORK OR EVERYONE'S COMING HOME, RUSH HOUR, RIGHT.
SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED WOULD GENERATE 64 TRIPS.
RIGHT THAT'S THE FIGURE MORNING FOR THE PM.
SO WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO NOT.
YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THIS INTO A MASSIVE TRIP GENERATING COMPLEX.
ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR? DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
I WAS TRYING TO WAIT TILL EVERYBODY SPOKE.
HAVE YOU? I KNOW YOU'VE DONE THE SURVEY.
EVERYTHING. HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE THE LOCATION? YES. SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT MY MY CONCERN.
I DROVE IT THIS PAST SUNDAY, AND SUNDAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LIGHT DAY AND DRIVING.
BUT ONE OF THE LIGHTEST DAYS WAS WHAT? I MEAN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE LIGHTEST DAYS IN DRIVING.
I DROVE DOWN LADNER TO TAKE A LOOK, AND I HAD AN ISSUE GETTING OUT AS TRAFFIC WAS GOING BOTH WAYS.
AND THAT WAS JUST ME ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I'M BEING HONEST.
SO MY CONCERN, ASIDE FROM TRAFFIC GETTING ONTO FALLON, WHETHER IT'S LEFT OR RIGHT, IS TRAFFIC.
COULD WE GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, SIR? IS TRAFFIC TRYING TO CUT THROUGH BUTLER AVENUE.
DID YOU ALL LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL? BECAUSE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY'S LOOKING INTO.
BUT ME JUST I WAS JUST ONE CAR AND IT TOOK ME A SECOND TO GET OUT.
SO I CAN IMAGINE WHEN IT'S A FEW CARS GOING THROUGH THE GATED AREA AND IT STARTS GETTING STACKED AND THEN SOMEBODY'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, USING THEIR INGENUITY, I CAN JUST CUT THROUGH HERE AND THEN ANOTHER CAR SEES IT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRAP, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS IT WILL BE ONE OFF BY EITHER WAY, BUT IT'S JUST I DON'T GET IT. SO IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS HEARING IS STRICTLY FOR REZONING, RIGHT? AND SO THE TYPE OF ACTUALLY FUTURE LAND USE I'M SORRY WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT. AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WILL SUBMIT A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT'S PROPOSING TO STUDY OUT TO BABCOCK MALABAR ROAD, INCLUDING MANY OF THE INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.
RIGHT. AND SO WE'LL COLLECT REAL COUNTS.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A DIFFERENCE IN INTERSECTION CONTROL.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, WE JUST HAVEN'T.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET. I GET IT.
I JUST I'M JUST ADDRESSING MY, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN.
I JUST I JUST CHECKED IT OUT THIS PAST SUNDAY.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE YOU'RE FROM HERE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S. THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO PORTRAY, SIR.
NO, ABSOLUTELY. AND WE WORK FOR YOU.
WE DEVELOPED THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY CRITERIA THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY USES.
WE HAVE WORKED FOR YOU AS A CONSULTANT.
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WE WORK FOR BREVARD COUNTY.WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE WORK FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SERVICES.
IT'S I'M NOT I'M NOT A MERCENARY FOR HIRE.
I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE GOVERNMENT OR JUST THE DEVELOPER.
THANKS. JACK, DID YOU WANT TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? WITH REGARDS TO HEALTH FIRST.
THE PROBLEM WITH THESE SPEAKING TO I'M SORRY.
PROBLEM WITH HEALTH FIRST. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT HEALTH FIRST.
THEY'RE DEALING WITH SOME PROJECT UP NORTH, I THINK IN MERRITT ISLAND.
SO THEY'RE FOCUSED IN ON THAT PROJECT.
I TRIED TO CONTACT THE PRESIDENT HEALTH FIRST, COULDN'T GET A RETURN CALL.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF ANOTHER ROAD.
WE HAD LOOKED AT THAT AND WE SAW IT ON.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT ON THE ON THE ON THE MAP.
WHAT I WOULD I'D REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS POSSIBLY WE HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING ANYHOW ON THIS IF THE COUNCIL FEELS THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT, BUT FOR THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC, CERTAINLY IF THEY'RE INCLINED TO, TO, TO, TO PASS, IT'S SUBJECT TO COME BACK WITH A SECOND WITH THE SECOND FOR SECOND READING ON IT, WITH AN UNDERSTANDING.
WE WE HAVE TO RESOLVE THE INGRESS AND EGRESS SITUATION.
WE THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, WHICH IS A BENEFICIAL PROJECT.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE REALISTICALLY IS DEALING WITH THE OWNER.
WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN TIME FRAME, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT IF COUNCIL FEELS THAT IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, BUT FOR THAT ACCESS, CERTAINLY WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO WORK IT OUT WITH HEALTH FIRST BECAUSE WE THINK IT IS BENEFICIAL FOR HEALTH FOR US TO HAVE THE LION'S LOOP.
WE THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF COUNCIL.
SO FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'M NOT SURE IT WAS A CITIZEN'S PARTICIPATION PLAN DONE FOR THIS ONE.
WE'RE STILL TALKING FUTURE LAND USE HERE.
RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY WENT INTO THAT PRESENTATION, BUT YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING.
AND SO TO THAT POINT, I'VE SEEN IT MULTIPLE TIMES, WHERE WITHIN THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS CAUSED APPLICANTS TO EITHER WITHDRAW SO THEY CAN TAKE THE TIME TO REVISE OR REVISE IT BEFORE IT GETS TO P AND Z.
IT'S JUST THE LOCATION FOR ME.
THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S I THINK THE YOU KNOW, THE LAND USE IS FINE, LIKE WHERE IT IS.
SO SO THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN.
YEAH. AND I'M WITH YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I LIKE THE PROJECT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS AS MORATORIUMS. THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE DON'T NEED A MORATORIUM.
WE HAVE CONTROL RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW TO DENY THIS PROJECT.
SO WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO BRING UP.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE DUE PROCESS.
SO IF JACK'S DONE WITH THIS PRESENTATION, I'D LIKE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO BEGIN SPEAKING.
AND I WANTED. JACK, ARE YOU COMPLETE? YES, SURE. ALL RIGHT. YES, I'D LIKE I LIKE TO IN IN AN EFFORT TO ALLEVIATE THIS, WE CAN HAVE NATHANIEL LEVY OR LEVY. I'M NOT SURE.
NATHANIEL LEVY HAS REQUESTED TO REPRESENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AND SEVEN OF HIS COLLEAGUES.
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AND WE ALLOW THEM 30 MINUTES.I CAN ENTERTAIN THAT WITH COUNSEL'S MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT COUNSEL.
CNN ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE? NO. NAME OK.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SPEAK FOR ZONING.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE.
THIS IS MY 10TH YEAR AS A HOMEOWNER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND MY NEIGHBOR, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE TOLD ME THAT MAKES ME A BABY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO, TO THIS PRESENTATION.
BUT WE HAVE MORE CONTENT IN THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION.
SO WELL IF COUNCIL DOESN'T PASS.
THE CHANGING OF THE FUTURE LAND USE.
WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT OK.
WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS, THIS, THIS PLAN FOR NOW.
MANY OF US UNDERSTAND NOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WITH YOUR PERMISSION, MR. MAYOR, FOR YOUR BENEFIT TO SEE THAT REPRESENTATION FROM THIS AREA, CAN I ASK FOR A SHOW OF HANDS FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CAME OUT TO PEACEFULLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED CHANGE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WITH YOUR PERMISSION. BUT THE RECORDS REFLECT THAT THE MAJORITY OF EVERYONE HERE HAS RAISED THEIR HANDS.
SO HERE I HAVE A SNAPSHOT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THIS PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY.
ONLY ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, IS THROUGH LADNER.
IF YOU WERE WALKING FROM THE PROPERTY TO BABCOCK STREET, THAT'S 1.2 MILES.
THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE WAY OUT IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, EXCEPT FOR THE TWO CHURCH BUILDINGS, THE RED AND BLUE CHURCH BUILDINGS YOU CAN SEE THERE ON FALLON, IT'S 2.8 MILES.
IF YOU WERE GOING FROM THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY OUT TO BABCOCK AND THEN DOWN AND OVER TO THE HOSPITAL, IT'S A 2.8 MILE TREK TO GET THERE, UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU ARE TRESPASSING THROUGH THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH OF THE WHICH IS A PRIVATELY OWNED WOODS. SO WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL WALK THROUGH THOSE WOODS.
AND THE OWNER OF THOSE WOODS, YOU KNOW, IS A PRIVATE, PRIVATE ENTITY WHO WHO HASN'T GIVEN ACCESS TO PEOPLE TO JUST WALK THROUGH THROUGH THE WOODS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT THE CLOSEST ROUTE IS A FULL 2.8 MILES.
WE'LL SEE IF WE'LL HEAR FROM THAT OWNER TONIGHT.
I HAVE HERE A SNAPSHOT FROM THE CODE LIBRARY SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE OF INTENT BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY TWO AND MULTIFAMILY.
SO THE MAJOR CHANGE HERE BETWEEN RS2 AND RMB TEN ZONING IS CLEARLY THE PHRASE HIGH QUALITY, WHICH IS INSIDE OF THE RS2 INTENT STATEMENT, WHICH COMMUNICATES TO ME THAT THE THE STATEMENT WAS LEFT OUT OF MULTIFAMILY PURPOSEFULLY FROM THE THE LEGAL WORDING AS A DISTINCTION.
HERE'S ANOTHER SNAPSHOT FROM THE CODE LIBRARY.
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IT'S 183.01 BE HERE.I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THAT THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO ENCOURAGE THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE OF LAND, WATER AND OTHER RESOURCES CONSISTENT WITH THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL OR HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO AVOID UNDUE CONCENTRATION OF POPULATION.
SO JUST THE TAKE AWAY FROM THE SLIDE IS THAT OUR M10 DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE SPIRIT AND THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SIMPLY PUT, PLEASE REJECT THE ORDINANCE 2020 278 COMP PLAN CHANGE PROPOSAL.
WE HAVE A LOT MORE CONTENT ON THE OTHER SLIDES, BUT I THINK THAT YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO ABOUT THIS STUFF AND I'LL WE WILL PUT OURSELVES AT YOUR.
SO I WANTED JUST TO TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY OF WHO ARE THOSE SEVEN SPEAKERS THAT YOU HAD SELECTED TO TO COME UP STATE THEIR NAMES? WILL YOU ALLOW US TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION OR JUST IDENTIFY THE SPEAKERS? SO YOU HAVE WE AUTHORIZE 30 MINUTES? ALL RIGHT, I'LL TAKE IT.
I GUESS THEY RESET IT BECAUSE.
OR THEY DIDN'T START IT BECAUSE.
OH, THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE 3 MINUTES, SO.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SKIP AHEAD THEN YOU ON IF CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE? THANK YOU. OKAY.
SO WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE OBJECTIVE OF OUR PRESENTATION TO CONVINCE YOU, MAYOR MEDINA AND THE CITY COUNCIL, TO REJECT THE REZONING PROPOSAL.
HERE IS THE AGENDA OF OUR PRESENTATION AND THE PRESENTERS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE INTRODUCTION HERE.
WE HAVE SEVEN PRESENTERS HERE THAT EACH HAVE A TOPIC TO DISCUSS REGARDING THE THINGS THEY LIKE AND LOVE ABOUT ABOUT THE PALM BAY CITY NEIGHBORHOOD THEY LIVE IN AND HOW THOSE THINGS WOULD BE CHANGED.
SO FIRST WE HAVE PAT BELPRE WITH THE HISTORY AND HOUSING DENSITY, WE HAVE PAUL ROSSMAN, CURRENT ZONING AND THEN TRAFFIC IMPACT WITH MARY, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT WITH TERI, UTILITIES, IMPACT WITH LESLIE, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT WITH STEVE.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE NOW FOR YOUR BENEFIT.
I LIVE AT 410 GEORGE'S AVENUE AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE 1978.
I ALSO WORKED FOR THE CITY THOSE FIRST 11 YEARS WITH FRED.
ANYWAY, I WANT TO JUST GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY.
WE NAMED CARDINAL WOODS ALL THE AREA AROUND FALLON.
FALLON AND BEHIND PORT MALABAR SCHOOL.
BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE CARDINALS THAT COME AND LIVE WITH US FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
ALTHOUGH WITH MORE BUILDING, IT SEEMS TO BE LESS AND LESS.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WAS SPOKEN BEFORE.
AND MOST OF THE HOUSING HAS BEEN BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES AND THE EIGHTIES.
SO WE ARE A FAIRLY ESTABLISHED OLD NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES ARE.
WELL, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A DIVERSE STYLE OF HOUSES, SO WHICH MAKES IT NICE THAT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT EXACTLY THE SAME HOUSE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE HAVE AN HOMOGENOUS SINGLE FAMILY HOME COMMUNITY.
AND CURRENTLY IN THE LOWER PORTION.
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I THINK IT'S. I THINK.THERE ARE 150 HOMES SOUTH OF THE SI 182 CANAL.
FALLON WE ARE BORDERED BY TILLMAN CANAL, BABCOCK STREET, MALABAR SCRUB MALABAR ROAD THAT HAS COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING INSTITUTIONAL AND.
WE'RE ABERAERON AND WE HAVE A MOBILE HOME PARK.
SO YOU REALLY CAN'T GO THROUGH THERE.
SO WE ARE LANDLOCKED, BASICALLY.
AND THAT SMALLER FUTURE PLAN IS VERY LANDLOCKED.
HELPS US TO HAVE A OPEN SPACE AND ZONING, WHICH REINFORCES THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARM AND CULTURE.
NOW, THE HOUSING DENSITY, THEY'RE SAYING THAT WOULD DECREASE THE DENSITY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DECREASE DENSITY WHEN YOU'RE ADDING MORE HOMES.
YOU GOT IT UP. SO ACCORDING TO.
OUR LITTLE AREA SOUTH OF 82 CANAL, YOU HAVE 0.106 SQUARE MILES.
SO THERE'S 150 HOMES IN THERE.
IF YOU WENT TO A SQUARE MILE, MULTIPLY THAT YOUR TOTAL WOULD BE 4909 UNITS, THEIR SMALLER UNIT, WHICH IS 2028 SQUARE MILES.
THEY ARE SAYING AND THEY DID IT, PLANNING AND ZONING ANYWHERE FROM 126 TO 170 UNITS IN THERE.
SO UNITS PER SQUARE MILE WOULD BE 6011 UNITS.
SO THE M TEN ZONING FOR PROPOSED PROPERTY ALLOWS FOR FOUR TIMES HOUSING DENSITY INCREASE.
AND THEN IF IT WAS LIKE AT 126 UNITS, THAT WOULD BE THREE TIMES THE DENSITY.
SO THIS IS REALLY A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY FOR THE HOMES SOUTH OF C 82.
AND AS YOU SEE WITH THE OTHER SLIDES, YOU'LL SEE WHY.
I'M PAUL ROSSMAN AT 2373 FALLON BOULEVARD.
ONE OF THE NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK HAS BEEN THERE ONLY FIVE AND ONE HALF YEARS.
BUT I'VE GROWN TO LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS A LOT BETTER, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE THERE.
OUR CURRENT ZONING RIGHT NOW IS FOR US TO, OF COURSE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS A MEDIUM DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THEY HAVE NUMEROUS LOT SIZES, RESTRICTIONS, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP EVERYBODY ENOUGH DISTANCE APART, BUT CLOSE ENOUGH THAT, YES, WE OUR NEIGHBORS.
IT ALSO EMPHASIZES GOOD ABOUT THE HIGH IT IS A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AREA FOR US TO ZONING ONCE YOU GET INTO RS THREE.
IT DOESN'T MENTION HIGH QUALITY.
WE LIKE OUR HIGH QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
TEN ALSO HAS OTHER PROVISIONS THAT APPLY IN THE AREAS.
THAT CALL FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF HOUSING.
ALL MENTIONED DUPLEX TYPE DWELLINGS.
LET'S SEE. THEY ALSO HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE THAT WE NEED PARKS IN THE AREA.
WELL, YOU SAID YOU WOULD PROVIDE A PLAYGROUND.
AND PLAY AREA FOR YOUR TENANTS.
ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE ANYTHING FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PARKS OR PLAYGROUNDS, SIR.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARKS OR PLAYGROUNDS IN OUR AREA.
AND IF THEY HAVE ONE FOR THEIR AREA, WILL THEY ALLOW OUR CHILDREN TO PLAY THERE? SECOND OF EVERYBODY IS ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE RETENTION POND.
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FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SUPPOSED TO BE 100 BY 300 FOOT IS IT SEEMS THAT THEY CHANGED THE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS THERE.I HEARD IT WAS 174 AND NOW IT'S 126.
A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT IT'S STILL I APARTMENT OUR M TEN ZONING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND.
WHAT MORE CAN I SAY? WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARY LOGUE.
WOULD YOU HELP MY SISTER WITH.
THAT'S GOOD. LEAVE IT TO ME TO DESTROY IT.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARY LOGUE AND I LIVE AT 2106 LADNER ROAD, RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION.
MY DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT THERE BY THEIR DRIVEWAY, AND MR. AND MRS. BOYNE LIVED THERE.
NOW THEY'VE LIVED THERE FOR THE LAST, I WANT TO SAY, TEN YEARS.
WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY 33 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS NOBODY BACK THERE.
IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DEAD END STREET.
THEY CAME IN, THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
THAT WAS FINE. TWO CARS COME OUT OF THERE EVERY DAY.
AND MOST OF THE TIMES THEY'RE WORKING FROM HOME.
SO THEY DON'T USUALLY COME OUT TO OFTEN TO CAUSE A DAY'S IN BED.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK ME TO TRY AND PULL OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY EVERY DAY WITH, LET'S SAY.
250 TO 300 CARS COMING OUT OF THERE.
THERE'S NO WAY I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.
RIGHT THERE. HOW AM I GOING TO DO THAT? I CAN'T. SORRY.
NOW, THERE ARE SIX HOUSES FROM FALLON TO THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE ON LADNER.
ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE TRYING TO GET OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY, WAITING FOR THESE CARS TO GO BY.
THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING DOWN ON FALLON ALL THE WAY TO BABCOCK.
IT'S GOING TO GET BACKED UP ALL THE WAY.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IT THERE.
I ALSO THINK THAT IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WITH THE AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCKS OR SOMEBODY'S GOT TO GET IN THERE, THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE AND ONE EXIT.
I'M SORRY. I PERSONALLY LIVED THERE FOR 33 YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT IT THERE.
LET SOMEBODY ELSE BUY THIS PROPERTY AND BUILD A COUPLE MORE HOUSES BACK THERE.
I CAN DEAL WITH THAT, BUT NOT WITH ALL THIS TRAFFIC.
AND IF IT DOES GO THROUGH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT A YEAR OR SO OR MORE OF BUILDING.
YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH RUINING OUR ROADS.
WE'LL HAVE CEMENT TRUCKS GOING RIGHT PAST MY HOUSE EVERY DAY.
AND THEN ONCE IT'S BUILT, I'LL HAVE THE EMPLOYEES WHO WILL PROBABLY MAYBE WORK FOR THE HOSPITAL.
ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A KID WITH THEM? THEY'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE SCHOOL.
THERE'S SO MUCH INVOLVED IN THIS AND WE'RE BEING TOLD, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL.
I DO. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
THE LOVELY. I'M TERRY CECH AND I LIVE AT 372 BUTLER AVENUE.
MY BACKYARD BUMPS UP AGAINST THIS PROPERTY.
I YOU CAN SEE BY THE YELLOW LINE, THIS IS THE C 82 CANAL.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS SOUTH OF KENT AVENUE, NORTH OF LADNER.
THIS CANAL WILL BE EMPTYING INTO TURKEY CREEK, THE STORMWATER AND EVERYTHING.
AND CURRENTLY THIS BYPASSES THE TILLMAN DAM.
SO ANY OFF RUN FROM HERE, WHICH I'M UNDERSTANDING THERE IS 260 PARKING SPACES IN THIS DESIGN PLAN. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RUNOFF AND THE RETENTION POND.
MY PROPERTY IS AT THE TOP CORNER OF THAT GREEN SPOT.
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I AM FLOODED OFTEN.THE CITY CAME IN AND DID PUT A SPELL BETWEEN MY PROPERTY AND MY NEIGHBORS BACK IN 92, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND I BOUGHT MY HOUSE IN 91, SO I'VE BEEN THERE 31 YEARS. SO AM I WANTING TO SEE THE RETENTION POND THERE? AND I'M JUST REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF LOW LYING, LOW LYING AREA THERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEIR PLAN IS TO PUT THERE.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT'S WILL THE ONE ENTRANCE.
I MEAN, BUTLER AVENUE, LIKE THE TRAFFIC GUY SAID, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ROUTING BACK THROUGH THERE JUST TO GET BACK TO FALLON, TO GET BACK OUT OR COME IN TO. SO I'M GOING TO BE REALLY HEAVILY INFECTED, NOT INFECTED, AFFECTED.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LISTENING TO US.
EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS LESLIE WOLFE, STAFF SERGEANT, RETIRED.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE UTILITY IMPACT.
CURRENTLY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON WATER.
THERE IS NO SEPTIC SYSTEM WHICH HAS BEEN INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
ALONG CANAL 82 ALL THE WAY UP TO BABCOCK STREET.
THAT WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, OPERATED 24 SEVEN 365 DAYS A YEAR.
THE NEXT OPTION IS TO RUN THE SEWER PIPE ALONG LADNER IN THE CITY RIGHT OF AWAY.
NOW THAT BECOMES A BURDEN AND FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY ON US AS A TAXPAYER TO MAINTAIN THAT PIPE.
IN THIS THESE OPTIONS BASICALLY NEGATIVE, NEGATIVELY WEAKENS.
THE ECOSYSTEM AND THE DYNAMICS OF THE CANAL.
BEING A FORCED MEAN SEWER PIPE.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY BENEFIT FROM THIS.
BY HAVING THE SEWER PIPE ALONG, LADNER WILL INCREASE A POTENTIAL INCREASE OF PROPERTY TAXES AND OR UTILITY BILLS DUE TO THE FACT THAT NOW IT'S GOING TO BE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE SEWER PIPE.
AND GOD FORBID THERE IS AN ACCIDENT WITH THIS PIPE, THAT THERE'S A PIPE FAILURE THAT'S GOING TO BE LEAKAGE INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM AND AN ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN AND CLEAN UP SO WE CAN.
CHANGING THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT TO MULTIFAMILY WILL ONLY CREATE MAJOR FINANCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY.
RESULTING IN ZERO BENEFITS TO US THAT LIVED HERE.
WE WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY AND WE CARE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
SO. SO I'M GOING TO ASK AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE ONE MORE.
HERE'S THE BEST. I'M SAYING THE BEST AS WE WORK ON SOMETHING TO LIVE UP TO IT.
THIS DOESN'T COUNT ON MY TIME, RIGHT? ONLY WHEN YOU START CLICKING.
ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS STEVE LLEWELLYN.
I WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT.
ALL OF THE TECHNICAL CONCERNS THAT YOU JUST HEARD, THEY MATTER.
BUT IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT TECHNICALITIES.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THIS AFFECTS THE LIVES OF REAL PEOPLE.
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SO WHAT THIS ZONING REZONING AT ALL COULD DO IS IT BRINGS INSTABILITY AND UNCERTAINTY TO SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT HOMEOWNERS.ONCE REZONED, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CAN BE ALTERED.
REZONING ALSO SETS A PRECEDENT TO REZONE AN ADJOINING UNDEVELOPED PARCEL AT BUTLER AND OAKLAND.
IF THAT HAPPENS, THIS WOULD INCREASE IMPACT FURTHER.
THE RESEARCH I DID SHOWED THAT, YES, IT IS TRUE THAT HIGH END COMPLEXES DON'T NEGATIVELY AFFECT HOME VALUES, BUT MID TO LOW QUALITY COMPLEXES CAUSE VALUES TO DROP.
IF REASONED, NOTHING GUARANTEES A HIGH CALIBER COMPLEX NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, DECADES GO BY.
SOMETIMES ONLY A FEW YEARS GO BY.
IF AT SOME POINT CRIME WERE TO GO UP, HOME VALUES WOULD DROP EVEN FURTHER.
ALL OF THIS PUTS PRIVATE HOME INVESTMENTS AT JEOPARDY.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE A RESORT THERE FOREVER KEEPING OUR VALUES UP.
IF REZONING, SPOT REZONING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, THIS IS JUST SORT OF A SORE POINT.
BUT THERE'S NO STABILITY FOR ANY PRIVATE HOME INVESTOR IN PALM BAY.
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS QUITE SHOCKED THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN, THAT THIS REZONING WAS EVEN PROPOSED.
NOW I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.
OUR CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD IS COHESIVE IN CHARACTER.
SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO HUMOR ME FOR JUST A MOMENT.
YOU SEE HOW I'M DRESSED? IT'S BECOME THE RECORD, RIGHT? DO YOU SEE HOW I'M DRESSED? SUBJECT STEPS ASIDE TO SHOW.
ALL RIGHT. WAS THAT KEEPING IT OFFICIAL? OKAY, SO WHAT I'VE GOT IS PRETEND YOU DON'T CARE.
NOW. IS THAT BETTER? MR. JOHNSON. IT'S A GOOD LOOK, RIGHT? YEAH. SEE, TIES ARE NICE, RIGHT? SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN IMPROVEMENT.
REZONING WOULD PUT A DISSIMILAR DEVELOPMENT INSIDE A MATURE, ALREADY DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOT NEAR IT. INSIDE IT, IT WOULD INTRODUCE A CONFLICTING VISUAL ESTHETIC.
EVEN WITH PEAKED ROOFS, IT WON'T MATCH.
AND IT INTRODUCES, AS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED, IT INTRODUCES A SEPARATE HIGH POPULATION WITH A DIFFERENT RHYTHM OF LIFE AND NO ONGOING INVESTMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE WEARING A BOW TIE WITH A POLO SHIRT.
CONTINUITY IS BROKEN AND IT LOOKS RIDICULOUS.
THAT'S NOT STANDARD IN SUBURBIA.
DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A VISUALLY IMPAIRED WOUNDED WARRIOR WITH PTSD ON BUTLER NEAR LADNER? IS ONE HOUSE IN FROM THE ENTRANCE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? THE CITY BUILT HIM THAT HOUSE.
HE'S NOW QUITE DISTRESSED AT THIS PROPOSAL, AND I'M SURE HE FEELS A LITTLE BIT BETRAYED.
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OOP. YOU MISSED IT. COMPREHENSIVE PLANS EXIST FOR A REASON.PLEASE STICK TO THE PLAN WHEN YOU DO.
THE CITY STAYS APPEALING AND DEVELOP SENSIBLY.
THE CITY LOOKS CHAOTIC AND COBBLED TOGETHER AND LEAVE CITIZENS FRUSTRATED.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEST AS ORIGINALLY ZONED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I SAY THIS OR NOT, BUT I'M GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
YOU HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN MONEY AND HONORING YOUR COMMITMENTS TO THE CITIZENS.
YOU CANNOT. YOU CANNOT ALWAYS HAVE BOTH IF THAT IF MONEY IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO EVERYONE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS.
BUT IF THAT'S. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU CAN'T CHOOSE BOTH.
AND I ASK YOU, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO HONOR YOUR COMMITMENTS TO DECISION THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF PALM BAY.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
DON'T YOU? AND SO JUST IN SUMMARY, THE CONCLUSIONS FROM THIS PRESENTATION THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE NOT IMPROVED BY ARMED DEVELOPMENT ACCORDING TO THE CITIZENS.
NEAR TERM, NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF CONSTRUCTION, LONG TERM EFFECTS OF MISMATCHED NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T SEEING THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT.
THE ZONING CHANGE WILL DEGRADE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC.
SO HERE AGAIN IS JUST IN SUMMARY THE CONCLUSIONS OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INTENT STATEMENT THAT. TO ME, THIS DOES NOT MEET THE INTENT, THE SPIRIT.
IT MIGHT. MIGHT MEET THE LAW, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T MEET THE SPIRIT.
AND I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THIS INTENSE STATEMENT RINGS TRUE TO ME.
SO I JUST REQUEST AGAIN THAT YOU PLEASE REJECT THIS ZONING CHANGE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? I FOUND SOME ENFORCEMENT.
YES. HE'S. HE'S HERE, MADAM BROWN.
YES, SIR. CHRIS, WOULD YOU MIND? VERY. SIR.
MR.. LITTLE MY QUESTION IS THE.
SEWER IMPACT, THE WATER IMPACT.
HAVE YOU MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS OR HAVE THEY MET WITH YOU? WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY MET WITH THE DEVELOPER.
MY STAFF, MY PROJECT MANAGERS HAVE DISCUSSED OPTIONS WITH THEM.
FOR INSTANCE, ON THE WATER SIDE, WE TALKED ABOUT LOOPING ON THE SEWER SIDE.
THEY ARE OR HAVE TALKED TO US ABOUT OPTIONS FOR EXTENDING A FORCE MAIN FROM THEIR DEVELOPMENT TO ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A FORCE MAIN THAT THEY CAN CONNECT SO THAT THE FLOW WOULD GO TO THE TREATMENT PLANT THAT WOULD AFFECT THE CITY UTILITIES BY BASED ON THE DEMAND IT WOULD IT WOULD JUST BE A NORMAL IMPACT TO THE SYSTEM.
IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT.
YES. IN THE WATER, THE LOOPING WOULDN'T AFFECT ANY OF THE RESIDENTS.
NO, THE LOOPING WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT.
WE HAVE HAD WATER QUALITY ISSUES IN TERMS OF DISINFECTANT RESIDUALS THAT HELP KEEP THE WATER CLEAN AND DRINKABLE IN THAT AREA.
SO WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME FLUSHING IN THOSE AREAS.
IT'S MORE OR LESS A DEAD END LINE THE WAY THAT THOSE STREETS AND THOSE PIPES WERE DESIGNED.
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NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WOULD IT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON HEALTH FOR US? NO, NOT AT ALL.ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL OF STAFF.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE.
MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 2275 LADNER ROAD.
AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE HISTORICALLY ON THE WATER CONTROL ASPECT THERE.
IN 2008, THE BEST OF MY REMEMBERS, THERE WAS A TROPICAL STORM NAMED FAY.
AND THAT AREA, THAT ONE LADY THERE SHOWED THE WATER FLOW THROUGH THAT PROPERTY, I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND AFTER THAT FLOOD, MY WIFE AND I WERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF FALLON ROAD AND LADNER, AND WATER WAS UP ABOVE OUR ANKLES AND FISH WERE SWIMMING AROUND OUR FEET.
SO THAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF FOLIAGE AND AND GROUNDCOVER AND TREES IN PLACE AT THAT TIME.
IF THERE IS ANOTHER STORM, FAY, THAT WHOLE AREA WITH NO FOLIAGE, PARKING SPACES AND ROOFS WILL MAKE THE AREA SUSCEPTIBLE TO FLOODING, FLASH FLOODING IN A SERIOUS WAY.
MY PERSPECTIVE ON THE RETENTION AREA IS THAT MAY WELL NOT EVEN BE CLOSE TO WHAT'S REQUIRED TO PREVENT REALLY NASTY FLOODING WITH EVENTS THAT MIGHT OCCUR IN A TROPICAL STORM OR A HURRICANE.
I'M TELLING YOU THERE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE EXPERIENCED OURSELVES.
AND IT WILL OCCUR, I'M AFRAID, WITH MUCH MORE INTENSITY IF THAT AREA IS DENUDED AND EVEN EVEN WITH THE THE PRESENT ZONING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED VERY, VERY CAREFULLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 2209 FALLON BOULEVARD.
I LIVE ON THE BEND SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2016.
AND THAT HOUSE, I'VE HAD MY MAILBOX RENT OVER FIVE TIMES.
I'VE HAD MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCRETE BLOCKS WERE DESTROYED WITH SOMEBODY RUN INTO IT.
THAT'S JUST A TRACK THAT PEOPLE DRIVE LIKE CRAZY.
SO PUTTING MORE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, GOING THROUGH THOSE BINS, AS YOU NOTICED THE OTHER DAY, JUST GETTING IN AND OUT WOULD I'M SURPRISED NOBODY'S GOTTEN HIT, HONESTLY. SO THAT IS A BIG, VERY BIG CONCERN BECAUSE ESPECIALLY LIKE FOR ME, I'M ON THE BEND.
I'M KNOWN BEFORE I MOVED IN THERE, I HEARD THAT THE LIGHT POPE'S GOT HIT, TOO.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
PORT MALABAR ELEMENTARY IS PROBABLY AT CAPACITY NOW.
WHERE ARE THESE KIDS GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL? I KNOW WE'RE BUILDING.
IT'S CRAZY AND EVERYTHING'S GOING ON.
BUT TO ADD EVEN THAT MORE RIGHT THERE AND THEN THE KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL AND SUCH AND HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT MORE TRAFFIC IN THE MORNINGS IS IS A REAL CONCERN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.
HELLO. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
I LIVE AT 460 BUFF ELM AVENUE, WHICH IS ONLY RIGHT OFF OF FALLON, BUT IN THE CURVY AREA.
I WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE THEY USUALLY HAVE INPUT WHEN NEIGHBORHOODS GROW AND THEY REALLY NEED TO KNOW WE DO IT NOW ONE HOUSE AT A TIME.
WE DON'T DO IT, YOU KNOW, THIS MANY HOUSES AT A TIME.
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SO THAT'S THE BIG THING.AND I THINK THEY PRETTY WELL TALKED ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF I REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OTHER THAN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, COULD WE PLEASE TABLE THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME BACK TO US WITH SOME ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS? WE KNOW THERE'S NO WAY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXCEPT THE WAY WE GO.
WE WOULD. YEAH, WELL, WE'D LIKE TO.
IF YOU CAN'T KNOW IT, COULD WE TABLE IT AND LET THEM ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS WE'VE ASKED TONIGHT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY CAN DO IT.
THEY CAN'T TELL US WHO'S GOING TO LIVE THERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH HEALTH FIRST AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE.
ARE THERE GOING TO BE CHILDREN GOING TO THE SCHOOL? ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TEENAGERS DRIVING CARS? THEY DON'T KNOW.
THEY'RE ESTIMATING GUESSING, JUST LIKE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THE CARS AND WITH ALL OF OUR CHILDREN WALKING ON THE SIDEWALKS TO SCHOOL AND THE BUSSES. LET'S NOT FORGET THOSE BIG YELLOW BUSSES THAT RUN UP AND DOWN THE ROAD AND HAVE TO STOP TO PICK KIDS UP.
THESE CARS ARE GOING TO IMPACT THAT A LOT.
AND THEN, YOUNG LADY, YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND YOU'LL GO AFTER HIM.
HELLO. DANIEL SEDAGHATFAR IS 2385 PHALEN BOULEVARD, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.
I LIVE NEXT TO PAUL RIGHT HERE.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY, EXCEPT FOR.
I THINK THIS IS JUST ABOUT GREED.
THE WHOLE THING IS GREEDY TO ME.
AND I'M GOING TO ADD TO WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT TRAFFIC, WHICH IS WHEN I MOVED IN ABOUT NINE YEARS AGO, I HAD PLENTY OF TREES ACROSS THE STREET AND I'VE HAD CARS FLIP OVER, I'VE HAD CARS TAKE OFF, ALL THE TREES ARE GONE NOW.
THE TREES ARE ALL GONE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN OUT BY CARS GOING 50.
I LIVE AT THE END WHERE IT LOOPS AROUND THESE CARS.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT THESE CARS FLY BY.
MY KIDS ARE SCARED TO BE IN THE ROADS.
YOU'RE GOING TO ADD MORE CARS, MORE TRAFFIC.
THIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
I'M GOING TO WALK OUTSIDE AND STARE AT THIS.
MY NAME IS TRISHA HOFFER, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR FOR THE JOB YOU'RE DOING.
THANK YOU. I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY, AND I WORKED IN PALM BAY SINCE 1999.
DEPUTY MAYOR. I WORKED WITH YOUR MOM AND DAD AT SOUTHWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I LOVE PALM BAY AND I AM FRIENDS WITH THE BORNS WHO OWN THIS PROPERTY.
SO I LIVE OVER IN OFF OF PORT MALABAR, FAIRHAVEN, NEAR VETERANS PARK.
13 ACRES OF UNDISTURBED WILDLIFE.
WHEN I GO ON THIS PROPERTY LIKE I IT'S SACRED.
I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER WORD TO SAY.
SO WHEN I IF I HAD THE MONEY, I'D BUY IT AND PUT A WELLNESS SANCTUARY ON IT WITH SOME LIKE BEEHIVES.
AND SO WHAT I'M WHAT I'M ASKING AND I WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.
BACK IN LIKE EARLY 2000, WE DID LIKE A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS WITH THE CITY WHERE WE LIKE WILLIAM CAPOTE WAS IN MY LITTLE GROUP AND WE'RE LIKE, WE NEED GREEN SPACE, WE NEED GREEN SPACE.
AND THIS WAS BACK WHEN I WAS IN MY LATE TWENTIES.
YOU KNOW, NOW I'M A LOT OLDER.
SO THIS PROPERTY IS BEAUTIFUL AND WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH IT, WITH THE SALE OF IT, IF I CAN RAISE THE MONEY AND THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, I MIGHT GET MY WELLNESS SANCTUARY THERE. BUT WHAT I'M I'M JUST ASKING, AS A RESIDENT AND A NATURE LOVER, CONSIDER THIS WITH THE WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAPPENING.
IT'S CONCRETE WITH LIKE PALM TREES PLOPPED IN THERE.
FLORIDA'S THE HAMMOCKS, THE THE PALMETTO, THOSE THE SAND OAKS.
SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO STILL HAVE SOME OF THIS BEAUTY.
SO AS WE GROW, MAYBE EVEN CONSIDER LIKE HAVING SOME AREAS LIKE KEPT, KEPT WHERE THE NATURE IS PRESERVED AND.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
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THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK, MR. MAYOR. MY NAME'S DAVE NEWSTEAD.I MOVED INTO 406 CANDLESTICK AVENUE SIX YEARS AGO.
RETIRED CHIEF PETTY OFFICER IN THE NAVY.
WORK WITH THE MARINE CORPS FOR MANY YEARS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF ITEMS THE TRAFFIC GUY SAID ABOUT HOUSING AND HOW THEY BASE THEIR NUMBERS ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT MOST OF THE HOUSES IN A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT WILL HAVE THREE OR FOUR CARS IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
AND IF THEY BASE THEIR NUMBERS ON THAT, THE NUMBER OF TRIPS PER HOUSE IS NOT EVEN CLOSE.
AND SECONDLY, AFTER THE NAVY, I BECAME A PHYSICAL THERAPIST, WENT BACK TO SCHOOL.
THEY'RE YOUNG PEOPLE, TWENTIES, THIRTIES, FORTIES, WHO HAVE CHILDREN.
SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I WAS ASKING ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK.
HI, MY NAME IS KERRY FULLBACK AND I LIVE ON 2018 KENT STREET.
MY FIRST MOVE TO PALM BAY IN 1996 AND I ACTUALLY MOVED TO OHIO STREET WHEN I OUTGREW MY HOME.
I LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO MUCH.
I BUILT A NEW HOUSE FOUR BLOCKS OVER AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT HOUSE NOW FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.
IT'S ALREADY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT'S NOT MY BACKYARD.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ALL OF US.
I DRIVE TO WORK EVERY MORNING AND I CAN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER 250 CARS ON THAT ROAD.
THAT THAT'S JUST NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR.
AND WE PUT YOU GUYS IN CHARGE TO TAKE CARE OF US AND PROTECT US.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO, PROTECT US.
FORWARD, MA'AM. IF YOU WANT TO COME SPEAK, PLEASE START FORMING A LINE.
COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LINDSAY MEYER AND I LIVE AT 2398 OAKLAND STREET NORTHEAST.
SO WE'RE THE ONES THAT BOUGHT THE FORECLOSURE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FIXING IT UP AND I HAVE TWO COMMENTS.
ONE IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACT.
AND PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY THINGS, TRAFFIC, GREEN SPACES, WHICH HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO DECREASE STRESS AND INCREASE WELL-BEING, BUT ALSO STRAIN ON GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE.
ALL OF THE MEDICAL FACILITIES LIKE THIS IS A LARGE INCREASE IN PEOPLE.
ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS IS TO GO TO THE E.R.
EVERY CHRISTMAS AND DROP OFF GIFT CARDS FOR THE STAFF.
IT IS BUSY LIKE IT IS A VERY BUSY HOSPITAL.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY TAXED.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ADD STAFF IN SO THAT THEY HAVE MORE PEOPLE.
BUT ALSO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIENT RENTAL PROPERTIES, SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO BE HERE.
AND NURSES DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
WE DON'T GET TO PAY THEM AS WELL AS THEY SHOULD BE PAID FOR THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS HIGH QUALITY APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL AMENITIES.
IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE.
20 YEARS IN PALM BAY TEN ON THE GOOD SIDE OF FALLIN THREE ON THE OTHER.
I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FELONS HERE TONIGHT.
FELLOW KNIGHTS. YOU WISH YOU LIVED ON FALLIN.
THAT'S HOW GOOD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
IF WE PUT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING DOWN THERE, YOU SPIT ON EVERY HOUSE ON LADNER AND FALLON AND ALL THOSE HOUSES THAT HAVE TO TOLERATE THAT TRAFFIC EVERY DAY PEOPLE FLY DOWN THAT STREET.
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I LOSE MY MAILBOX ONCE A YEAR.WE HAVE A BET TO SEE WHO'S GOING TO LOSE IT NEXT.
IF YOU KEEP IT ZONED THE WAY IT IS, YOU DEVELOP IT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT IS.
IF YOU ALLOW THE HIGH DENSITY IN THERE, IT DEGRADES THE VALUE OF EVERY HOUSE ALONG THE WAY.
WHO'S GOING TO PAY US THE DIMINISHED VALUE OF OUR HOMES? AND WE COULD GET A LINE OF REALTORS FROM HERE UP TO MALABAR ROAD THAT WILL TELL YOU THE ADDED TRAFFIC FROM RENTERS THAT DON'T BELONG IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
TAKE AN INVENTORY OF YOUR GARAGE.
NO MOM WITH KIDS IS GOING TO BUY A HOUSE ON LADNER OR FALLON OR OAKLAND OR KENT.
WHO'S GOING TO PAY US THE DIMINISHED VALUE OF THAT HOME? NOBODY. WE BECOME A PRISONER IN OUR HOME.
AND WHEN SOMEONE DECIDES, I'VE HAD ENOUGH TRAFFIC, I'M OUT OF HERE.
WHEN THAT REALTOR TELLS YOU YOUR HOME IS WORTH X -20% BECAUSE OF ALL THAT ADDED TRAFFIC.
PEOPLE COME LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER.
WHO ALLOWED THIS TO GO ON? YOU HAVE TO SHUT THIS DOWN.
DEVELOP IT THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
I'VE RAISED MY CHILDREN IN BREVARD COUNTY.
MY HUSBAND WORKED FOR THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE FOR GREATER THAN 40 YEARS.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S A COMMUNITY.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE HERE WHO CARE.
WE CARE ABOUT OUR YARDS, WE CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS, WE CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER.
AND TO TAKE THAT AWAY, TO ADD AN AREA ON A THOUGHT THAT MAYBE HEALTH FIRST TRAVELING NURSES WHO HAVE A THREE MONTH OR A SIX MONTH CONTRACT MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO RENT A PROPERTY WITH NO SIGN FROM HEALTH FIRST IN THERE, I WORK FOR HEALTH FIRST. I WAS AT OUR TOWN HALL MEETING TODAY.
THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS VILLAGES FOR PALM BAY HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN PROJECTED TO START UNTIL 2025.
HOW IS THIS GOING TO BENEFIT MY COMMUNITY? PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT TO US.
GOOD EVENING. I'M TERESE NEIGHBOR.
I'M SCOTT COLLINS. I LIVE AT 345 MILL ROAD AND I HAVE SINCE FOR THE PAST 32 YEARS.
JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE CHALLENGE OF TRAFFIC STUDY A BIT.
I THINK THE FIVE ACRE FIVE HOUSES PER ACRE WAS CALCULATED TO BE ABOUT 85, 80 OR SO HOMES.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS BASED ON, BUT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE THAT YOU COULD PUT 85, YOU COULD FULLY MAXIMIZE THE FIVE HOMES PER ACRE WITHOUT WITHOUT CONSUMING SPACE FOR ROADS AND DRAINAGE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE STUDY IF I IF I MISSING MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING THE STUDY, BUT IF I'M NOT, MAYBE IT'S A DISINGENUOUS COMPARISON TO A POTENTIAL OF 85 HOMES AND COMPARING THE TRAFFIC CONSUMPTION.
SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING THEM.
AND I KNOW IN NEW DEVELOPERS COME TO THESE AREAS, THEY ARE ACTUALLY FILLING IN THESE HOLES OF THE DENS OF THE GOPHER, TORTOISES WITH CEMENT AND JUST PAYING THE FINES INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY RELOCATING AND PROTECTING THE TORTOISES THAT ARE REALLY ENDANGERED AT THIS POINT.
SO TO ME, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THESE GREEN SPACES.
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TO PUBLIX OR WALMART OR ANYTHING, CURRENTLY THEY ARE LOW ON SUPPLIES AND IT IS VERY BUSY AND I THINK ANY INFLUX OF NEW PEOPLE IS GOING TO ONLY EXASPERATE THAT.SO I THINK BEFORE BUILDING NEW HOUSING, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND MORE GREEN SPACES TO COUNTERBALANCE ALL THE HOUSING THAT IS AROUND HERE. SO THAT'S IT.
KEN GREEN, 1701 ARDMORE STREET.
THE FIRST ONE IS IF YOU GRANT THIS, YOU GRANT THAT THEY'LL HAVE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC FLOW.
YOU STILL HAVE EMPTY LOTS IN LOCH MOSTYN.
BUT ANYWAY, IN CARDINAL WOODS.
YOU WILL ALSO HAVE EMPTY LOTS IN CARDINAL WOODS.
THAT IS ABOUT 82 TO 84% BUILT UP.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT IF YOU PASS THIS THING TONIGHT.
OKAY, GOOD. THE REALITY IS THAT WILL YOU INCUR OR THEY GO OUT AND THEY'RE TOLD TO DO THINGS TO GET THEIR MASTER PLAN IN PLACE AND THEY DON'T DO IT OR THEY SAY WE HAVE A PROBLEM DOING IT.
IS THE CITY ON THE HOOK TO TO FOR THEM TO RECOUP THEIR LOSSES OF WHAT THEY'VE INVESTED IN, TO GET THAT PROPERTY, TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THE WAY IT'S DOING? AND THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS PALM BAY ALWAYS HAVE SEEMED IN THE PAST TO GET ON THE HOOK FOR THINGS THAT THEY DO WITH GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT IT ENDS UP NOT NOT PANNING OUT FOR THEM.
THANK YOU. HOW ARE YOU DOING? DEACON L. I LIVE AT 2139.
LADNER AND I COULD SAY I PROBABLY VOTED FOR FOR YOU GUYS, ESPECIALLY PETE, ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW.
I'VE ACTUALLY MET MORE OF MY NEIGHBORS THIS TIME THAN I'VE EVER MET THEM.
LIKE I CAN TELL YOU, I KNOW MARY, YOU KNOW TERRY, PAT, BRUCE.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEEPLY IMPACTED BY THIS BECAUSE THIS TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO THROUGH MY FRONT DOOR WHERE I HAVE THREE KIDS AND A GRANDSON.
AT LEAST I KNOW THESE NEIGHBORS WILL SLOW DOWN WHEN THEY COME BY MY HOUSE.
THESE FOLKS. THESE TENANTS I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.
THEY DON'T CARE. THEY'RE GOING TO TURN THAT RIGHT HAND CORNER AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SPEED.
AND MR. FILIBERTO KNOWS BECAUSE HE USED TO HANG OUT IN THE CORNER HOUSE.
AND HE KNOWS THE TRAFFIC THAT WENT DOWN FALLON ALL THE TIME.
THEY WANT TO FIND A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE, BY ALL MEANS.
MALEMA. THAT'S THAT'S MY FEELING.
I JUST DON'T PERSONALLY I DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE, THEY MIGHT TURN AROUND AND SELL THIS PROPERTY AFTER IT'S BUILT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THESE FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE FOR COMMERCIAL SO THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND FLIP THIS IN A YEAR FROM NOW AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETELY DONE AND THEY'RE SAYING HIGH END AND END UP ENDS UP BEING LOW END BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT THE LAST TIME I HEARD SOMETHING, THEY SAID THEY EXPECTED 20 $200 RENT.
I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT CAN FORK OUT 20 $200 RENT.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME OUT.
AND I CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE KIND OF OPPOSED TO THIS OR VERY OPPOSED TO IT.
SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND LET YOU KNOW.
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MY NAME IS CHARLES LEEDY.MY MOM OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL IT UP ON THAT COMPUTER, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ZONE WHEN YOU ZOOMED OUT AND YOU LOOK AT THE THE ACTUAL HOSPITAL AND METROPLEX PARKWAY, THERE'S A LARGE PIECE OF VACANT LAND THERE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE CONTINGENT TO THIS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.
I WOULDN'T WANT, YOU KNOW, A TON OF EXTRA TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU HAD ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL, IF THERE WAS A WAY TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL, AND IF THERE WAS A WAY TO DEVELOP THAT TO BE I'M SURE IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL THAT MUCH CLOSER TO THE HOSPITAL, YOUR PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING TO GO UP, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONALLY, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK POSSIBLY WITH THESE FOLKS IN THE FUTURE OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKE THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY THAT SHE OWNS HAS AN EASEMENT TO FROM THE HOSPITAL.
SO IF THAT MEANS ALLOWING NURSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO HAVE IT EASY ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL BY A WALKWAY OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, WE'D BE VERY OPEN TO WORKING WITH THAT, YOU KNOW.
SO I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU SHOOT THE PROJECT DOWN, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO GET THEIR PAPERS IN ORDER TO GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW. OF COURSE, EVERYBODY'S LIKE, OPPOSED TO IT, PLEASE.
BUT NOW IF YOU HAVE ACCESS, YOU GOT YOU GOT TO THINK ON MALABAR ROAD, THERE IS DEVELOPMENT GOING ON THERE FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MORE DOCTOR'S OFFICES, MORE THINGS EXPANDING THERE ON MALABAR ROAD.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE ACCESS TO THAT.
AND ALSO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY BASICALLY ALL I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF BEING SO CLOSE MINDED TO IT, LIKE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US WITH THE TRAFFIC, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW IT COULD POSITIVELY AFFECT YOU GETTING OUT TO MALABAR ROAD, GETTING CLOSER, GETTING THESE PEOPLE TO COME HERE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, REALLY OUR POPULATION IS GROWING AS A COUNTRY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING HERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE COMING TO FLORIDA.
WE'RE ONE OF THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER STATES IN THE COUNTRY.
SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE PUT YOUR RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.
I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE LOCATION THAT THE BUILDERS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY CAN GO OVER TO MERCURY AVENUE OR AVENUE MARTIN ROAD.
IT'S FULL OF APARTMENT HOUSES, THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? YOU ALREADY SPOKE, MA'AM.
CYNTHIA THOMAS 20 TO 30 FOR LADNER.
A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE NOT.
BORN AND RAISED IN FLORIDA, SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO, AND I'VE OWNED PROPERTY THERE AND CHOSE TO SELL IT BECAUSE OF THE ANONYMITY OF THE RENTER. NOBODY KNOWS ANYBODY.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANYTHING AROUND EXCEPT THEMSELVES.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET RENTERS.
THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I GOT A PEACOCK WALKING DOWN MY STREET AND A TURKEY IN MY DRIVEWAY.
IT IS THE MOST WONDERFUL PLACE I'VE EVER BEEN AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE A CHANGE.
AND WE WALK BACK AND WE SEE SNAKES AND TURTLES AND BIRDS AND IT'S IS BEAUTIFUL.
AND TO CHANGE THAT IS JUST TO ME VERY UNFORTUNATE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND CHOSE THAT PLACE OUT OF ANYWHERE ELSE THEY COULD CHOOSE. I DIDN'T EVEN GET A LOAN.
I PAID FOR THE HOUSE OUT CASH.
IT IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND RAISE A FAMILY AND RETIRE.
IT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT MATTERS.
AND I JUST DON'T SEE THIS BENEFITING ANY OF US IN ANY WAY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING DONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
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I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL TO YOU.AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY I MOVE TO DENY A SECOND.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.
SO MY. MY MOTION IS BASED ON FUTURE LAND USE, AND I DON'T AGREE THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE THE WAY IT IS.
THE STRUCTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS INTACT.
I THINK IT'S A SOLID PLACE TO LIVE IN.
AND I DO KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S A HERO THAT LIVES ON YOUR STREET.
A SILVER STAR RECIPIENT THAT TOOK THE BATTLE ON FOR THIS NATION.
HE'S EARNED THE SILVER, THE SILVER STAR.
BUT I TRULY BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE MEDAL OF HONOR.
IF YOU READ THE WARRANT OF THAT SILVER STAR, I KNOW THAT YOU WILL AGREE.
AND I THINK OF HIM WHEN I THINK OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SURE. THERE ARE PEACOCKS AND TURKEYS.
ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MANY YEARS.
SO I WANT TO KEEP IT THE SAME WAY IT'S OWNED.
AND THAT IS THE REASON FOR MY MOTION, I THINK OF HIM AND HOW IT WOULD AFFECT HIS LIFE.
WHEN I DO WELLNESS CHECKS FOR HIM.
DEPUTY MAYOR. HE'S OUT PULLING WEEDS AT 97 YEARS OLD.
DEPUTY MAYOR. AND YOU SECONDED.
BUT I SEE IT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORATORIUM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT WITH THIS, I THINK THE LAND USE IS CORRECT.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, DOES ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL WISH TO SPEAK? UM, MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO I JUST WANT TO GO DOWN A LINE HERE.
I HURT SOME SCHOOLS, BUT I BROUGHT UP.
HAD SUFFICIENT CAPACITY UTILITIES GOT THE CHECK MARK FROM ME HERE BEING ON SEWER CITY WATER.
HOWEVER, I DO SHARE THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT YOU ALL SHARE AS WELL AS THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP.
AND EVEN HOW ABOUT THE PLANNING OF AN ADMIRAL DRIVE POSSIBLY GOING TO MALABAR ROAD, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT GOES THROUGH THAT, THE TRAILER PARK THERE? MY OTHER CONCERN HERE THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THIS KIND OF GOES TO DEVELOPERS HERE.
WE HAVE 19 VACANCIES IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
I HAVE 1.3 OFFICERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS.
WE AS A COUNCIL ARE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT.
AND THE NORTHEAST AND I BROUGHT THIS HERE POLICE PRESENTATION.
SO THAT PUBLIC SAFETY CONCEPT, CONCEPT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CONCERNS ME.
AND THEN ALSO, SAME WITH THE FIRE STATION.
I KNOW FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE IS AT BEYOND FULL CAPACITY.
THIS COUNCIL IS WORKING HARD TO GET FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN PUT ON PALM BAY ROAD.
SO UNTIL THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
SO AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANT TO ADD TO THE MARKET, TO THE HEALTH FIRST EMPLOYEES COUNCIL.
YOU ALL MADE A SMART DECISION HERE BECAUSE WE JUST APPROVED A BILL STREET PROJECT ON MALABAR ROAD THAT KIND OF CATERED TO THE HEALTH SERVICE EMPLOYEES THAT WAS SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THIS REQUEST.
SO I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT.
ALSO THE FELIX. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
LET ME START TO SAY THE TALK TO THE DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT TO TO SAY THAT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR DEPUTY MAYOR IS SAYING THAT THE PROJECT IN ITSELF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT.
I LIKED IT. I DO AGREE WITH THE LOW DENSITY ASPECT, THE BEAUTY OF IT, THE UNIQUENESS OF IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OFTEN FROM THE DAIS IS WE NEED SOME SORT OF DIVERSITY IN OUR HOUSING IN PALM BAY WE ARE WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY.
THE MAJORITY OF THE MAKEUP OF OUR CITY IN GENERAL, IT'S IT'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY.
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SINGLE FAMILY. I THINK PROJECTS PROJECT AS SUCH IN THE RIGHT SPOT WOULD MAKE COMPLETE SENSE.SO THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
AND YOU'VE MENTIONED A LOT OF KEY POINT IN TERMS OF LOW IMPACT.
LOOKED AT PALM BAY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO INVEST INVESTING.
AND BUTCH SAID SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.
THERE'S AN AREA OF PALM BAY RIGHT NOW ARE IN 20 TONS OF INVENTORY, TONS OF INVENTORY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, LITERALLY ACROSS MALABAR ROAD, LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. THAT AREA, IT'S LOADED WITH INVENTORY, ALL READY FOR SELL AUTUMN 20 SEWER AND WATER ALREADY READILY AVAILABLE SO LOOKED INTO THAT JUST WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT THE NEGATIVE.
TO ME IT'S A LOT THE LAND USED OR ALL TO I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
TRANQUILITY, DESCEND, QUALITY, DISTURB, COMPATIBILITY, CULTURE, CHARACTER, SAFETY, TRAFFIC.
THIS IS A BIT TOO MUCH TO TO PUT ON THESE PEOPLE.
I WOULD SIDE WITH THEM THAT THIS PROPERTY SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
OH, IT'S CHISELING. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN FELIX? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I. I READ ALL YOUR EMAILS, AND I LISTENED TO EACH ONE OF YOU VERY INTENSELY.
THE REASON WHY I VOTE NO FOR THE 30 MINUTES.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT ONE PERSON WAS GOING TO SPEAK FOR 30 MINUTES AND.
I GOT YOUR MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR.
NOW. LET ME LIKE I SAID, I WAS ON THE FENCE AND SOME OF YOU SPOKE WITH ME TO THE LEFT.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPERS DIDN'T REALLY PUSH ME TOWARDS THEM.
MADE ME LEAN TOWARDS MY THINKING AND HIS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PROJECT TO PALM BAY.
I DON'T THINK HE'S IN THE RIGHT LOCATION.
THE TRAFFIC. YOU GUYS ALREADY GOT A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
YOU ALREADY DEMONSTRATE PEOPLE MAILBOX GETTING RUN OVER AND CAR CRASHES AND ALL THAT.
IF WE PUT. THE TRAFFIC STUDY GUIDE SAID 869 TRIPS.
THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT AREA, BUT 869 TRIPS.
AND THEN MY GOOD FRIEND, COUNCILMAN KEN GREENE.
I KNOW HE LIVES THERE BECAUSE I VISITED HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THAT AREA.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GREENE, FOR SHOWING UP AND SPEAKING.
THAT MEANT A LOT TO ME IN MY DECISION.
IF THAT AREA WE KEEP THE SAME ZONING AND SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES GO ON THERE.
I THINK THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE WORSE AS FAR AS THE ENVIRONMENT.
THE FLOODING, THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN WHEN THE RESIDENTS SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS FLOODING.
I THOUGHT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL FIX SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT NOT AT THE COST OF SAFETY.
NOT AT THE COST OF SAFETY, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY.
HEALTH FIRST WORKERS WALK TO WORK, AND I DIDN'T SEE NO WAY THEY COULD WALK TO WORK.
I THINK THAT WILL CAUSE A GATED COMMUNITY.
THAT'S FINE, BUT TOO MANY CARS COMING OUT OF THAT GATE.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE OUTSIDE THAT GATE.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE LADY THAT LIVES THERE.
I GOT YOUR POINT LOUD AND CLEAR.
HEALTH FIRST DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS TO ANOTHER EXIT OR A DIFFERENT OR INTEREST IN THE EXIT.
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OTHER THAN OTHER THAN WHAT YOU GOT PLANNED HERE.YES. I MEAN, I JUST WANTED YOU KNOW, AS I RECALL, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SPOKE ABOUT TABLING IT OR ACTUALLY TWO SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT TABLING IT. AND AND AND PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS SO THAT THE APPLICANT COULD COME BACK.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT ENOUGH? IS THAT ENOUGH OF A CHANGE FOR THEM TO APPLY AGAIN IF THEY CAME BACK WITH.
WITH THE ENTRANTS GOING IN THROUGH MALABAR, IF THEY SPOKE TO HOMES REGIONAL.
MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD THAT QUALIFY AS ENOUGH OF A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE? TYPICALLY A CHANGE LIKE THAT, WHICH WE WOULD THINK OF MORE AS BEING A CHANGE THAT WOULD BE TO THE SITE PLAN.
FROM ONE USE THAT TO A LESSER USE, BUT TYPICALLY THAT WITHOUT SEEING MORE TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
BUT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND I WOULD CONSIDER IT.
BUT AT THIS MOMENT I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
YES. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR MEDINA TO DENY SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL, CNN OR MCCAUL IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY I ALSO SAY NAY PASSES UNANIMOUSLY DENIAL.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS SO THAT YOU MAY EXIT.
GENTLEMEN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE GOING TO COMMENCE AGAIN.
WE ARE COMMENCING WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND I WILL YIELD TO MADAM SMITH.
SO I BELIEVE WE ARE NOW ON ITEM EIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? YES, SIR. ORDINANCE 2022.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY REMOVING THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT FOR PERMITTED USES ON PARCELS OF TEN ACRES OR MORE.
IT'S IN A MORE ACRES WITHIN VIEW BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT ZONING PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR THE INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
TYPICALLY IT'S RELATED TO THE LAND USE.
SO THIS IS A AN ATTEMPT BY STAFF TO CLEAN THAT UP.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNSELOR, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SEEING NONE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THE SIGHT OF.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEE ANON ALL IN FAVOR.
AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 169 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BY MODIFY THE APPLICABILITY PROVISIONS FOR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLANS PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
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HEREWITH PROVIDED FOR INCLUDING THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, A THE OPENING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION PLAN, BETTER KNOWN AS CPP.
YOU KNOW, I FIRST WE'RE HAVING FUN UP HERE EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A CROWD.
BUT I FIRST WANT TO THANK COUNSEL FOR GIVING THE CONSENT FOR ME TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THIS.
AS WE SEE JUST RECENTLY, THE APPLICANT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ASSISTANCE PARTICIPATION PLAN WHERE THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT COULD HAVE MITIGATED A LOT OF THIS RIGHT HERE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS.
COPY THAT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
ANY QUESTIONS OF DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON? OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST CP THIS ITEM.
CNN. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR EMOTION.
MOST OF THE PROOF WORD IS 2022 DASH 84, FIRST READING.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? OR AS YOU WERE FILIBERTO.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I HAD A LIGHT SYSTEM HERE HERE SO THAT FOLKS CAN CAN PRESS ON IN.
REMEMBER, MY HEAD'S ON A ON A SWIVEL HERE.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
DEPUTY MAYOR. WELL, WE GOT A FEW MORE ITEMS. DO WE? YEAH, WE'RE ON TEN.
THAT'S 85 IN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 169 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SUBCHAPTER GREEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
MISS NATALIE SHAVER AND EVERYONE, IT ALL STARTED LIKE DR.
AND WE MOVE FORWARD AND HERE WE ARE.
AND MS.. NATALIE CAN SPEAK MORE TO IT AS WELL IF IT DOES COME UP.
BUT THIS IS AN INTRODUCTORY PROGRAM AND WE'RE STILL FINALIZING SOME THINGS WITH IT AND FINE TUNING.
BUT WE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET STARTED NOW AND THIS IS THE WAY WE CAN SLOW ROLL IT, BUT MAKE SURE WE'RE INTRODUCING IT CITYWIDE TO INCENTIVIZE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR RESIDENTS, DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND DOWN THE LINE, ONCE WE FINALIZE THE THE MANUAL.
BUT THAT'S JUST MY TAKE AND THAT'S JUST MY TAKE FOR NOW AT LEAST.
YES. AND IN THAT REGARD, BECAUSE WE MIGHT LEARN MORE IN OCTOBER, THEY WERE LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED TO FINE TUNE THIS OR FINE TUNE THAT, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE TAKING A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE COUNCIL SUPPORT, ALL MY STAFF SUPPORT ON THIS, THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
SO. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THIS MORNING I WAS WITH LISA SOTO, AND WE WE GOT A BRIEFING FROM DR.
DUANE DEFREEZE AND AND HE SPOKE ABOUT EVERY EVERYONE DOING A PART.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
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INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. AND AND I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY AND I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO MR. FILIBERTO, MR. MOREHEAD, HIS GRANDFATHER, ABOUT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE CLIMBING OUTSIDE OF THAT OUT OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.SO THIS IS ALL PART OF RESTORING THAT THAT WHOLE RESTORATION PLAN.
SO, YES, SIR, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF, AND THEN MISS CONNELLY'S NEXT.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
BECAUSE IT REFERS TO THE SAME TOPICS IN BOTH ORDINANCES, ONE OF THEM YOURS DOING AWAY WITH IT.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHY YOU'RE DOING AWAY WITH IT FOR AN UP AND COMING ORDINANCE.
SO LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR JUST SAID, A LOT OF US BE TEND TO DEPENDENT UP ON THE MANUAL.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE MANUAL.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MANUAL IS GOING TO SAY.
BUT YET YOU'RE ASKING YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING? AS OF YES.
AND PART OF THE THINGS I SAW IN THAT AND THE REASON WHY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IS UNDER THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, FOR THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER SHALL ADHERE TO THE LEAD DESIGNS AND STANDARDS AS CONTAINED IN THE CITY'S LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL.
YOU'RE SAYING DO THIS, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS IS YET, RIGHT? TO BE ENTITLED TO BE ENTITLED TO A DENSITY OR INTENSITY BONUS, ENTITLED TO MORE FORCE BASED THAN ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSALS AND TO A GREATER HEIGHT AND A REDUCTION FEES AND CREDITS GRANTING FOR OTHER INCENTIVE AND GRANTING OF OTHER INCENTIVES BASED BY WHAT YOU GUYS SAY IS OKAY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE OTHER OKAYS ARE.
SO TO ASK TO APPROVE SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, IS A CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE UNDER MY STANDARDS.
UNDER THE WAY BILL BATTON TRIES TO DO BUSINESS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCEPT IS, BUT YOU DON'T SAY YES UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE AGREEING TO.
OTHERWISE, ENLISTEES WOULD BEGIN SERVING 20 YEARS INSTEAD OF THREE YEARS AT A TIME.
ALL RIGHT. AND I'LL BE COMING BACK AND TALKING ON THAT ONE AGAIN.
AND THE NEXT ONE, JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW, I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT'S BEING DONE.
I'M JUST AGAINST THE THE PROCESS OF GETTING THERE.
AND YOU JUST HAD LISA FROM MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL UP HERE.
IF YOU EVER TALKING TO HER, SHE KNOWS ME VERY WELL.
WE WORK TOGETHER. WHEN I WAS THE DIVISION RAN ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS AT FIT.
SO SHE KNOWS WHO I AM AND SHE KNOWS THAT I'M A REAL POOP HEAD THIS WAY BECAUSE THAT.
BUT THAT'S CART BEFORE THE HORSE DOESN'T WORK.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. MS..
CONNOLLY, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS TO GO BACK TO WE, THE CITIZENS.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT MANDATORY.
WE, THE CITIZENS CAN DEMAND IT.
AND I THINK ALSO COUNCIL, AT LEAST THE QUESTION CAN BE ASKED.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT IN THE ORDINANCE.
WE CAN HAVE IT IN THE PRACTICE.
I REALLY WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE CROWN VILLAS BECAUSE THEY CAME UP WITH A VERY CREATIVE IDEA OF CAPTURING STORM WATER AND USING IT FOR THE IRRIGATION OF THAT PROPERTY.
I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE LISTENING TO A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPERS AND IT'S THE SAME CONVERSATION.
THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT I'VE HEARD A SPECIFIC.
THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE COME UP WITH TO PRACTICE CAPTURING STORM WATER IN A WAY THAT I THINK I WOULD LIKE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER TO ASK THAT QUESTION FOR EVERY DEVELOPER, FOR OUR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE TO CAPTURE THAT IDEA AND IMPLANT IT IN THE PEOPLE IN ALL OF OUR MINDS.
SO I WOULD I THINK THIS IS A MOVEMENT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
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CERTAINLY. THANK YOU ALL.THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR, DID YOU? YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO REFER TO DEPUTY ACTING CITY MANAGER, MRS. BROWN. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
THERE IS A DRAFT AND THERE'S A MANUAL IN DRAFT FORM.
STAFF WILL BE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO GET SOME INPUT ON WHAT TYPES OF PRACTICES, WHAT PRACTICES ARE TYPICALLY USED BY ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES, WHAT PRACTICES THE DEVELOPERS WOULD SAY COULD KILL A DEAL.
BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL DEVELOPER FRIENDLY IN SOME IN SOME ASPECTS.
SO WE HAVE A PLANNED PRESENTATION BEFORE DEVELOPERS ON AUGUST 19TH, IF I RECALL, AND WE WILL GET SOME ADDITIONAL INPUT, BRING THAT MANUAL BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND THEN THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED PER RESOLUTION.
SO THANK YOU, MA'AM. BUT CONCLUDE THE AS FAR AS THE INCENTIVES GO, THE INCENTIVES ARE MEANT TO BE SOMEWHAT GENERAL IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE UNIQUENESS OF EACH PROPERTY.
SO EACH PROPERTY SIZE IS DIFFERENT, EVERY TOPOGRAPHY IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
SO WE WANTED TO ALLOW COUNCIL FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THOSE TO CONSIDER SOME INCENTIVES.
IDEALLY, THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK IN THE FORM OF AGREEMENT.
IF A DEVELOPER IS WANTING TO VOLUNTEER TO UTILIZE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND PRACTICES IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THEN THE STAFF WILL NEGOTIATE WHAT CONCESSIONS COULD BE PROVIDED AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU. AND JUST TO ADD COUNSEL, THAT AUGUST 19TH DATE IS THE MAYOR'S ROUNDTABLE THAT WE INCLUDE.
THE LAST TIME WHEN WAS IT THAT WE HAD IT? IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.
WAS IT JANUARY, JANUARY 20, 21ST? WE HAD IT AT THE FIGHT.
IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, WE HAD THAT.
WE GOT SOME INPUT FROM THOSE BUSINESS PARTNERS THAT WERE AT THAT TABLE.
THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND IT SOME MORE TO GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.
AND THIS IS DEFINITELY ON THE AGENDA.
AND SO I THINK ONCE WE GET THAT BUY IN, WE GET THEIR VIEWS ON HOW THIS CAN WORK.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRY OF SAVING THE LAGOON.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRY THAT PROPELS US THAT THAT ECONOMIC ENGINE.
SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TIMING FOR THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SCHEDULED THAT MEETING FOR AUGUST 19TH.
COUNCILWOMAN FILIBERTO, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM REAL QUICK, WE'RE ON ITEM TEN, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. BUT SHE MENTIONED THE MEETING AUGUST 19TH.
SO I WENT TO I'M GOING TO COMBINE BOTH INTO SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON THAT.
I DO. I DO WANT TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEM TEN, THE GREEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
WHY DO WE HAVE TO REPEAL THE GREEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM IN ORDER TO ADOPT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT? THE GREEN AND GREEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM SPEAKS TO LEAD CERTIFICATION AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES, WHICH IS REALLY CONSIDERED UNDER THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
AND WE COULD, OF COURSE, INCORPORATE MORE GREEN DEVELOPMENT WAIVERS AND FLEXIBILITIES, IF YOU WILL.
BUT THE STORMWATER EXCUSE ME, THE GREEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM ALSO ADDRESSES STORMWATER.
AND SO IN TALKING WITH STAFF AND IN TALKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE PLACEMENT OF THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM SHOULD BE UNDER STORMWATER. THAT'S WHERE OUR THAT'S WHERE WE REGULATE THAT.
THANK YOU. ACTING CITY MANAGER.
AND THEN GOING GOING WITH WITH THE NEXT ITEM OF DISCUSSION.
I JUST HOPE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SO HEAVILY ONE SIDED OR HEAVILY SIDED ON THE DEVELOPER SIDE.
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THAT IS NOT THE FOCUS.WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD RECALL YOU WEREN'T ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, BUT WAS TO OPEN UP A DIALOG WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON HOW TO HOW THE CITY COULD, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE OUR COMMUNICATIONS IN INCREASING BRINGING BUSINESS INTO THE CITY.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE OBJECT OF THAT.
GOTCHA. SO IT'S NOT BEING DRIVEN BY THIS THIS ITEM.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
I MEAN, EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE ALL HAVE BEEN UP HERE AND I AND I'VE SPOKEN FOR AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, I'VE EVEN ASKED DEVELOPERS AND YOU ALL TO, HEY, LET'S CONSIDER LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS AGAIN BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
AND WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER WITH EMMANUEL.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER THROUGH ORDINANCE, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO.
BUT THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S EFFORT ON THIS.
SO THANK YOU ALL. COUNCILMAN FELIX, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MAYOR, I WOULD ECHO JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU GUYS JUST MENTIONED.
IT'S IT'S ABSOLUTELY A GREAT, GREAT, GREAT.
WE HEAD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SWILLEY IT'S GETTING THE SAME SAME THE MOMENTUM THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO WE ARE REALLY GETTING IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IN MANY WAYS.
SO. SO I DEFINITELY APPLAUD THE, YOU KNOW, THE INITIATIVE TO TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. SO I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT.
THANK YOU FOR FOR INCLUDING THAT YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING THE NATIONAL ESTUARY CAUCUS IN THE U.S.
HOUSE. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, SIR.
AND THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR, FOR WORKING ON THIS.
ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO IMPROVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WE NEED TO DO AND SAVE OUR ENVIRONMENT.
SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOTION PROOF. WARREN IT'S 2022.
SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? AND NONE ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 86, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND CONSERVATION PART TWO DRAINAGE PLAN BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT.
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORTIZ'S PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.
I KIND OF TRIED TO TIE BOTH ITEMS IN REGARDS TO JUST STATING AT ONCE.
I'LL BE THERE. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? JUST MAYOR. ONE POINT.
AND NOW THIS PALM BAY PROUD, SIR.
ANYONE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF, PLEASE.
GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
VERY SIMILAR COLUMNS TO WHAT I BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
I'M JUST I'M AGAINST VOTING IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING WHEN YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ WHAT IT IS YOU SAID YES TO, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY. YOU'RE PROVING AN ORDINANCE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVEN'T READ WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, TOO.
WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN OTHER SITUATIONS.
I SEE IT HAPPEN IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
OR THE FINE PRINT IS WHAT ENDS UP BITING YOU.
NEVER SAY YES WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YES TO.
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THAT'S MY ADVICE. BUT YOU CAN DO WITH ADVICE WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT TO THIS TOPIC.THE DEVELOPER WILL BE ENTITLED TO A DENSITY OR AN INTENSITY BONUS, WHICH MEANS HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT YOU WERE POSING FOR, WHICH GOES AGAINST YOUR GREEN ESTABLISHMENT'S MORE FLOORSPACE, WHICH GOES AGAINST YOUR CONDENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IN.
SO NOW WE HAVE HIGH RISES BECAUSE THEY MADE A BIGGER RETENTION POND.
JUST I'M JUST KIND OF MAKE YOUR POINT.
SOME OF THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS, THEN YOU'LL GET A REDUCTION IN FEES.
BECAUSE YOU MADE A BIGGER RETENTION POND.
RIGHT. AND YOU'LL GET CREDITS.
OH, YOU MADE A BIGGER RETENTION POND.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU TAX CREDITS SO YOU NOW DON'T HAVE TO PAY YOUR IMPACT FEES ALL ALONG WITH THAT SAME SAME PROCESS, GRANTING OTHER INCENTIVES, WHICH WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE INCENTIVES ARE THAT WILL BE AUTHORIZED BY YOU.
UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING, WHAT IT IS YOU'RE GIVING.
YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL ABILITY TO HAVE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BASED ON THE WAY THE PERSON PRESENTS IT FROM HERE TO YOU WITHOUT HAVING IT IN A WRITTEN GUIDELINE.
THAT'S WHERE THE FAILURE CAN ARISE.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE A LOT OF DON'T LOWER MY REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO BE TAKEN MORE TAX MONEY FROM ME BECAUSE YOU GAVE THIS DEVELOPER A LESS FEE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PAY BECAUSE IT'S YOUR FEES THAT PAY FOR THE OPERATION OF THE CITY.
ALL RIGHT. YOU ALREADY HAVE GUIDELINES.
THEY MEET THEM. THEY HAVE TO MEET THEM ALREADY BECAUSE IT'S UNDER THE WATER RETENTION ACTS.
BE CAREFUL ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YES TO WHEN IT IS.
WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU'RE SAYING YES TO.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I JUST WANTED TO WEIGH IN THERE.
I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAD DONE AN AMAZING JOB SHOWING DISCRETION ON MANY ITEMS. SO THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING DIFFERENT OPTION ON INCENTIVES CAN DO.
BUT I THINK WE'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT I WILL SAY IT.
I THINK WE'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN USING OUR DISCRETION, EVEN WHEN WE EVEN WHEN WE MAY DIFFER.
BUT WE STILL SAW THE COMMON GOAL THAT NOT NOT HERE.
AND I SEE US MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
WE'LL DO THE SAME EXACT THING.
SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 86 FIRST READING SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN, I KNOW YOU ALREADY SPOKE.
COUNCILMAN FELIX, DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN WITH YOUR SECOND? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CALL IT FOR A VOTE.
I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[CONSENT AGENDA: ]
WE HAVE THREE ITEMS. ITEM SIX, SEVEN AND TEN.COUNSEL ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ANYONE ON COUNCIL WISH TO PULL AN ITEM? CNN. I NEED A MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM SIX, SEVEN AND TEN.
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX OR MADAM, AS YOU WERE.
[6. Consideration of allocating Impact Fee Undesignated Fund Balance for water main extension and upsizing completed at 942-948 U.S. Highway 1 ($7,938). ]
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MADAM SMITH.NOTHING. OKAY. AS YOU WERE, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM SIX, MR. BILL BATTEN. GO BACK IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
NORMALLY, I COMPLAIN ABOUT MONEY BEING SPENT WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
EXCUSE ME, BUT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO SAY THIS WAS MONEY WELL SPENT.
AND IT WAS JUST A GOOD, GOOD THING ON HIS PART.
BUT CHRIS LITTLE'S AVAILABLE COUNSEL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
HEY, I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT ALLOCATING $7,938 FROM UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO ACCOUNT FOR 23-80215336324. SO I CAN.
THE MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? AND NOT ALL IN FAVOR.
I. AND OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
GO BACK. SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
[7. Consideration of allocating funds for the purchase and installation of reclaimed water meters in Sandy Pines Preserves ($355,004). ]
$355,000. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE? UNDER THE RECLAIMED WATER USAGE TO MAKE THAT MAKE THAT EXPENDITURE BACK.
WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY.
HOW LONG BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. MADAM BROWN, IS MR. LITTLE AVAILABLE TO COME DOWN? YES. THANK YOU.
SEE A RETURN ON. SO THE INSTALLATION OF THESE METERS IS NOT NECESSARILY TO IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY, GET A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
WE HAVE ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLIANCE.
IN OUR BP OPERATING PERMIT FOR OUR FACILITY, DEP HAS STARTED FINING UTILITIES FOR VARIOUS THINGS.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
ANOTHER ISSUE IS THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH A PROJECT WITH SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON WHERE WE TOOK OVER $3.4 MILLION TO REDUCE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS IN OUR RECLAIMED WATER.
WELL, WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT OVER USES RECLAIMED WATER, WE'RE KIND OF DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF REMOVING THAT NITROGEN IF THEY'RE APPLYING DOUBLE, SOMETIMES TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF RECLAIMED WATER ONTO THEIR LAWNS.
SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT.
THERE ARE VARIOUS REASONS WHY IT'S OPERATING IN THIS MANNER.
TYPICALLY, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THE LINE, WE HAVE THE PROPER FLOW.
WE HAVE THE PRESSURE OF THE SYSTEM IS NOT INTENDED TO RUN EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE.
SO BY PUTTING THE METERS IN, WE CAN FINE TUNE OUR CONTROL, LOOK AT THE PEOPLE, THE EGREGIOUS OVER USERS AND SHUT THEM OFF, PENALIZE THEM IF NECESSARY TO INDUCE COMPLIANCE.
IS THERE A FEE FOR THAT RECLAIMED WATER? THERE IS A BASE CHARGE RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
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COUNSEL, LITTLE QUICK QUESTION.SURE. DO WE HAVE THE FUNDING READILY AVAILABLE? YES. FROM FUND BALANCE? YES. SECOND QUESTION, HOW OLD IS THIS COMMUNITY? I BELIEVE IT WENT IN IN THE EARLY 2000S.
IT'S FAIRLY NEW. IT'S RIGHT OFF PORT MALABAR.
IT'S LIKE THAT PINK WALL THAT YOU SEE.
SO WOULD YOU SAY SOMEONE DROPPED THE BALL AND NOT HOLDING THE DEVELOPER ACCOUNTABLE? NO. MY UNDERSTANDING AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH ON WHAT THE PRACTICE WAS, WHAT THE STATE OF MIND WAS WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT WENT IN. THE PALM BAY AND GENERAL DEVELOPMENT WERE SEPARATE PALM BAY UTILITIES BUILD A WASTEWATER PLANT.
ON ONE SIDE OF IT WAS TROUTMAN.
NOW CLERMONT GENERAL DEVELOPMENT HAD A PLANT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY PLANT.
THE SECOND USER WAS SANDY PINES PRESERVES.
AND MY, MY GUESS IS THEY HAD A NEED TO GET RID OF THE RECLAIMED WATER.
THEY SENT IT OUT THERE UNCONTROLLED AND SAID, TAKE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE WAY IT WAS IN THE EARLY DAYS.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS CONNECTING TO IT, WE HAVE HARRIS RENAISSANCE AND OTHERS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING THAT'S GOING UP ON CLAREMONT THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT TO IT.
WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL USERS, PLUS IMPLANT PROCESSES REQUIRE THAT RECLAIMED WATER.
NOW WE HAVE TO REIN IT IN AND GET THEM.
GET EVERYONE IN COMPLIANCE USING A PROPER AMOUNT OF WATER.
FROM THE FOSTER. BUT IT WAS PAYING A FEE, THOUGH, RIGHT? I THINK YOU SAID YOU SAID 12.
WELL, 97. SO RECENTLY IT USED TO BE ALL THREE.
OH, SORRY. WHAT'S COUNCILWOMAN FILIBERTO WAS FREE OR BAC BACK IN THE DAY.
AS MR. LITTLE WAS SAYING, THIS RECLAIMED WATER USED TO USED TO WATER PORT MALBEC COUNTRY CLUB AND THEN IT HOOKED UP TO SANDY PINES AND CELIA PALM BAY USED TO HAVE TO GET RID OF THEIR RECLAIMED WATER, SO THEY GOT A RIVER FOR FREE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE COUNCILMAN FELIX THIS POINT COMES UP.
DID SOMEBODY DROP THE BALL? NO, IT'S JUST WE WE NEEDED TO GET RID OF RECLAIMED WATER.
BUT NOW WITH THE GOLF COURSE GONE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING, AS MR. LILL SAYS, WE ARE USING THE RESIDENTS ARE USING TOO MUCH OF THAT RECLAIMED WATER.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DO OKAY.
YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION TO YOU.
ALL RIGHT. I'M DONE. I'M DONE. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'RE GOOD. I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
A COUPLE QUESTIONS, MR. RYAN. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT HISTORY THERE.
AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ON THIS.
I LIVE IN SANDY PINES, SO I JUST WANT FULL DISCLOSURE THERE.
THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER.
SANDY PIE'S THREE AND FOUR. WE HAVE WE HAVE THAT VALVE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT'S BEEN LEAKING.
WE'VE HAD THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL HAS HAD WATER QUANTITY ISSUES AND LOW PRESSURE.
THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOOPING SYSTEM IN THERE AS THAT LOOPING SYSTEM STILL HAPPENING.
SO THE LOOPING SYSTEM, I AM WORKING WITH ENGINEERING STAFF TO FINISH IT UP.
HOWEVER, I WOULD NOT PUT THE LOOPING SYSTEM IN UNTIL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THEM BECAUSE NOW I'M GOING TO EXTEND LINES AND BACK FEED AND IT WOULD BE COURTYARDS AND PHASE THREE FOR BACK FEET.
I'LL HAVE I'LL HAVE EITHER THREE OR FOUR ADDITIONAL VALVES I HAVE TO TURN TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE SHUT OFF AND ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE WATERING OR I GET THE METERS IN PLACE, HAVE THEM READY TO GO SO THAT THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO STOP HAVING WATERING DAYS, LEAVE THEM OPEN.
BUT WE ARE ABLE TO MONITOR AND TURN OFF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING TOO MUCH OF THE WATER.
THEY SIMPLY THEY DRAIN OUR TANKS ALMOST DRY IF WE LEAVE IT WIDE OPEN.
THANK YOU, MR. LULA. I KNOW YOU'VE ALL WORKED HARD, EVEN COMMUNITY AWARENESS.
HEY, WHAT ARE YOUR LONG ON IN THESE DAYS? PEOPLE DON'T OBEY THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM HERE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT LOOP SYSTEM WAS STILL GOING TO OCCUR WHILE THIS ALSO OCCURS.
AND ALSO THE THE VALVE IN FRONT OF THREE AND FOUR IS GOING TO BE REPAIRED AS WELL.
SO SO THE VALVES ALREADY BEEN REPLACED.
THAT WAS THERE WERE A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH PRESSURES.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW IS ONE OF THE VALVES WAS LEAKING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
OKAY, COUNSEL, I NEED A MOTION.
MOST OF THEM APPROVE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED BUDGET AMENDMENT AMOUNT $355,004 FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF RECLAIMED WATER METERS AND SANDY PINES PRESERVES.
AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
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I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM TEN AND I KNOW MASTER CHIEF IS SPEAKING ON THIS.
[10. Consideration of pursuing legal action for code violations at 539 Ocean Spray Street SW. ]
BATON BILL BATON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.YES, I AM PARTIAL TO THIS ONE.
IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD TO SEE THE ACTION YOUNG.
BUT I DIDN'T THINK I WAS ACTUALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM MUCH.
I ONLY BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THAT WAS I TRIED TO BE GOOD ABOUT IT, BUT.
BUT THAT GENERALLY THIS GENERATES A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
AND THAT'S THE FIRST ONE WAS HOW IS THIS HOW IS THE PROCESS? BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS PROCESS BEFORE AND I'VE BEEN COMING IN CITY A LONG, LONG TIME.
SO HOW IS THE PROCESS GOING TO FUNCTION? RIGHT NEXT ONE IS WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME TO SEE HOW IT HOW IT COMES TO BE IF IT EVEN GETS APPROVED? RIGHT. AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, IF IT ENDS UP COSTING US THE EXTREME OF WHAT YOU SAID, LIKE $15,000, DOES THAT REMAIN WITH THE LIEN ON THE PROPERTY OR IS IT BECAUSE THE CITY PAID AND CLEANED IT ALL UP THAT NOW THEY'RE FREE TO GO BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IN TROUBLE? SO THREE QUESTIONS.
AND WHAT HAPPENS ON PAYBACK OF MY MONEY? THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF, PLEASE.
COUNCILMAN FORCE HAS A QUESTION OF YOU.
APOLOGIZE. MR. BATTEN, YOU CAN CALL ME BILL.
BILL, DO YOU KNOW THIS NEIGHBOR? I NO. ACTUALLY KNOW HIM PERSONALLY.
YES. DO THEY HAVE ANY TYPE OF MENTAL ILLNESS OR LIKE A HOARDER? I'M NOT A PSYCHIATRIST OR A DOCTOR.
AND I WOULDN'T SAY BY BY BATON STANDARD, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LOONY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY SAY IF HE HAS A REAL MENTAL PROBLEM.
HAVE YOU SUGGEST TO THEM TO CLEAN UP? BECAUSE I'VE GONE EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT.
I USE MY TRACTOR, I GO HELP THEM PICK UP THEIR TRASH.
I PULL IT IN AND PUT IT IN MY DUMPSTER THAT I PAY FOR TO BE HAULED AWAY.
SO, YES, I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY AND THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THEM.
SO YES, I KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL.
YEAH. BECAUSE IF WE TAKE THIS ACTION, I MEAN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO REACT TOWARDS IT.
I MEAN, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S JUST THAT THAT ONE SPOT REALLY RUINS WHEN YOU I MEAN, IF YOU DROVE DOWN THAT ROAD, I MEAN, I.
I AGREE. BUT HOW IS HE GOING TO REACT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT HE SURE DOESN'T CARE HOW WE REACT TO HIS HIS MISBEHAVIOR.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT CAUSED THIS, BUT I'M JUST IT'S NOT JUST HIM.
IT'S ALL THE ALSO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THE SAME IN THE WOODS.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL, IT'S OTHERS.
BUT SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT, BUT EITHER WAY.
I'VE TRIED TO BEEN A GOOD, GOOD SAMARITAN AND HELP OUT.
WHAT OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS AND.
REMEMBER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY THEY CAME OUT AFTER TEN YEARS OF OF.
THIS PROCESS OF PUTTING THINGS ON THEIR LAWNS FROM DRYERS AND REFRIGERATORS AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THIS WAS COUNCIL'S WE HAVE EVOLVED BUT JUST I WANTED TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY WITH THAT AND THEN I'LL YIELD TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE QUESTIONS MASTER CHIEF BATTEN HAD.
AND YEAH, WELL, WE HAVE ACTUALLY USED THIS PROCESS BEFORE.
IT WAS MR. RAIOLA PROPERTY THAT YOU MENTIONED WHERE THERE WAS A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
AND AS FAR AS HOW LONG IT TAKES, IT MAY HONESTLY VARY.
IT DEPENDS UPON WHETHER BECAUSE OF COURSE THERE'S A CODE LINK AND HE HASN'T NOT NECESSARILY BEEN PAYING MUCH ATTENTION TO IT, AT LEAST NOT BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.
BUT WITH MR. RAIOLA, ONCE WE ACTUALLY SERVED EVERYONE THE COMPLAINT, HE CONTACTED OUR OFFICE, YOU KNOW, HE CREATED A PLAN BY WHICH, YOU
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KNOW, HE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO START ABATING THE NUISANCE ON HIS PROPERTY.AND WE GAVE HIM SOME TIME SINCE HE ACTUALLY STARTED MAKING WORK.
AND ULTIMATELY WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO IN AND CLEAN UP HIS PROPERTY.
HE ACTUALLY DID IT ONCE THE LAWSUIT WAS FILED.
BUT CERTAINLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED BEFORE IS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY ONCE WE, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, GO OUT AND ASK THE JUDGE TO GIVE US THIS ABILITY THAT WE DON'T JUST SIT ON AN ORDER BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE MET WITH STAFF WHEN WE MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS A PLAN AND THERE WAS ALSO SOME TWEAKS AS FAR AS SOME CONSIDERATIONS ON HOW IT WOULD PROCEED, EVEN FROM A PROCUREMENT STANDPOINT.
BUT WE ALREADY DID THIS SUCCESSFULLY.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS ONE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY WAS LIKE, OH, THERE'S A LAWSUIT, I SHOULDN'T ACT.
BUT IF WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO DECIDES THEY WANT TO FIGHT AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO FURTHER, THEN OF COURSE AN ACTUAL LITIGATION IS GOING TO MAKE THE CASE TAKE SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER.
SO IT REALLY IS DEPENDENT UPON WHETHER IT GETS THEM INTO COMPLIANCE BECAUSE WE FILED A LAWSUIT OR IF IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO US HAVING TO DO A SUMMARY JUDGMENT MOTION OR HAVING A HEARING AND HAVING THE JUDGE RULE THAT WAY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THE EMOTION.
SO A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES. I JUST WANT TO.
ALBERTO. THANK YOU, SIR. I JUST WANT TO MENTION WHEN THIS ITEM DID COME UP, I DID ASK CITY STAFF TO LOOK INTO IT TO SEE IF THESE PEOPLE WERE ABLE BODIED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN AREA.
AND STAFF CONFIRMED THAT THEY WERE.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT OUT.
WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS: ]
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON FOR KEVIN SMITH.SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR I AND HE OPPOSE PASSES AND ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MR. FILIBERTO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO GIVE CRUISE OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND FACILITY STAFF AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE DRIVING DOWN PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD THIS
[COUNCIL REPORTS: ]
WEEK. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOTICE A SURPRISE, AND THAT'S ALL THE PALM TREES OVER THERE THAT HAVE BEEN TRIMMED.THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 50 PALM TREES IN TOTAL, ALL TRIMMED IN THE MEDIUM IS LOOKING GOOD RIGHT NOW.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE A NICE CORRIDOR FOR THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON PORT MALABAR AND US ONE THAT BAYFRONT MIXED USE WHICH HAS ALSO KIND OF SAY BROKE GROUND. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM MY REPORTS, MAYOR.
I THINK I'LL DEFER TO MY TIME.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT TODAY.
THANK YOU, MR. FELIX. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
YOU KNOW. SUMMER IS OVER FOR SOME STUDENTS.
SCHOOLS ARE ABOUT TO START AND I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE PUSH MARKETING.
THE PRESENT DAY EIGHTH ANNUAL BACK TO SCHOOL BACKPACK SCHOOL SUPPLY GIVEAWAY ON AUGUST SIX.
THAT'S THIS SATURDAY FROM 1 TO 4.
ONE OF THE SPONSORS FOR THIS PROGRAM, THEY GIVE AWAY ITEMS AND THEY HAVE DRINKS.
THEY HAVE GAMES FOR THE KIDS, A BOUNCE HOUSE MUSIC EVERY YEAR.
HAVE SPONSORS TO COME UP WITH MONEY TO HELP.
THE KIDS THAT MOST NEEDS FOR BOOKS, PENCILS AND PENS AND THINGS FOR SCHOOL.
SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC, EVEN THOUGH THOSE IN MELBOURNE IT'S 20, 20, 21, EAST MELBOURNE AVENUE IN MELBOURNE, BUT IT'S OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY TOO.
SO PLEASE COME OUT, BRING YOUR KIDS AND GET SOMETHING, SOME SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR FREE.
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COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.JUST BRIEFLY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE EVENT, SHE'S LIKE, WHAT AM I COMING UP FOR NEXT WEEK? WE'RE HAVING A VIRTUAL MEETING ON HOW TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
YEAH, COME ON. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE THAT ARE STILL TUNING IN, I JUST RAN INTO A GENTLEMAN WHO HAS A CLEANING SERVICE, AND I SENT HIM THE FLIER WHILE WE WERE AT THE PARK. HIS KIDS WERE PLAYING, MY SON WAS PLAYING, AND I SENT HIM THE FLIER.
NEVER KNOWN. SO IF YOU CAN JUST.
THIS IS OUR OUR SECOND DOING BUSINESS WEBINAR FOR ANY BUSINESSES INTERESTED WITH PARTNERING WITH THE CITY TO HELP PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES TO HELP OUR GREAT CITY RUN.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OVER 300 BUSINESSES REGISTERED.
IT IS STILL OPEN FOR REGISTRATION.
WE ACTUALLY SET UP A EMAIL FOR THIS IN COLLABORATION WITH I.T.
B IS TRAINING AT PBF WL DOT ORG.
AND YOU CAN JUST EMAIL THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED AND WE WILL GET YOU ON OUR LIST.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT, SIR? ONE MORE THING. SCHOOL STARTS NEXT WEEK, LIKE YOU SAID.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY SAY IN THE MILITARY, STAY ALERT.
STAY ALERT OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST I WANT TO SAY COMMON SENSE, BUT SOMETIMES COMMON SENSE ISN'T COMMON, BUT JUST.
AND NOW THIS ISN'T GEARED TOWARDS ANYBODY.
WELL, ACTUALLY, IT'S GEARED TOWARDS EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MYSELF.
LIKE, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL STARTS WEDNESDAY FOR REGULAR STUDENTS.
I THINK KINDERGARTEN STARTS A FEW DAYS LATER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT GOES ON US AS CITIZENS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ALL I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, MAYOR, BUT THAT'S IT.
AUGUST 19TH, AS WE DISCUSSED, RIGHT, WE GOT THE BUSINESS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE.
SO I'M ABOUT TO PASS ON A PACKET TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AROUND RANGE.
THERE'S THREE AND THE TOPIC IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND MANY OF YOU AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I MET YOUR FATHER RIGHT, RIGHT FROM THE MARINE CORPS AND HE SERVED ON THIS COUNCIL.
BUT WHAT I PASSED ON TO YOU IS A RESOLUTION THAT COUNCILS IN THE PAST HAVE WAS A REFERENDUM THAT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY PASS NOT ONLY REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT WHAT WAS OCCURRING BACK THEN IN THE NINETIES WAS VISION BOARDS.
WE HAVE VISION BOARDS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, MEANING POLICE AND FIRE.
AND BACK THEN YOU WILL APPRECIATE THIS.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER THE THE RATIO OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WAS 1.3 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I'M GOING BY MEMORY AT THIS POINT.
AND IT'S PART OF THOSE VISION BOARD MEETINGS, 1.3 OFFICERS FOR OUR POPULATION BACK IN THE NINETIES, WE WERE A 60,000 POPULATION ONES.
JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT FRAME OF REFERENCE, I KNOW THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO A A WORKSHOP.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THIS TYPE OF HISTORY SO THAT YOU SENSE WHAT I LIVED AS AS AS A 30 YEAR OLD MAN, 27 YEARS OLD, OUT IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY, SITTING IN ON THESE SEATS OUT THERE TO GIVE THEM MIND FRAME.
THEIR GOAL WAS TO REACH 2.1 OFFICERS PER CAPITA.
30 YEARS LATER, WE ARE BEHIND ON OUR RESPONSE TIMES.
WE ARE BEHIND ON THAT PER CAPITA RATIO.
AND HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS? I THINK ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
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I REALLY BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL.WE GOT TO BEAR THIS DOWN AND I'M PASSING THIS ON AS A POINT OF REFERENCE THAT WE HAVE EVOLVED AS A CITY TWICE AS LARGE AS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.
I BELIEVE THE POPULATION WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED WAS 55,000.
IN THE NINETIES WE GREW, IT WAS 60.
SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE GONE TO 70.
HISTORY WILL PROVE THAT WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND YET IN ALL THESE YEARS, THE NUMBER ONE FUNCTION OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT IS TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE. THIS.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO HAVE TYRESE.
SHE SHE BROUGHT THIS OUT FROM FROM THE NINETIES.
AND WHAT I WANTED TO TRY AND DIG UP WAS THE MINUTES FROM THOSE VISIONING BOARDS.
THESE WERE THE GOALS THAT THEY PASSED ON TO PASS ON THE REFERENDUM.
AND AT YOUR PERUSAL YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS.
BUT WHAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT, AND I THINK WHAT WHAT STRIKES ME IS I BELIEVE WE WE CAN OVERCOME THIS BY SETTING A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.
ARE WE GOING TO SOLVE THIS OVERNIGHT AFTER 30 YEARS? NO. BUT PUSHING THIS IN AN IN AN EFFORT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, THIS IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL.
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, I THINK, IS GOING TO GO A LONG WAY.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OPTIONS.
SO I'M THINKING LET'S BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THIS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO, WHAT TYPE OF OPTIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR HOWEVER. BUT THE ONUS IS ON US NOW, SO PLEASE USE THIS AS THE POINT OF REFERENCE.
CERISE IF SHE COULD DIG UP SOME OF THOSE VISIONING BOARD MINUTES.
AND THE VISITING BOARDS WERE INDIVIDUAL.
WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK THROUGH THIS, YOU'LL SEE EXACTLY MY HEART AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO CONVEY TO YOU, TO GET YOU TO A PLACE OF, WOW, THIS WAS IN THE NINETIES AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO I WANTED TO JUST PASS THIS INFORMATION ON TO YOU BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO TACKLE SOMETHING.
ANY COMMENTS? YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AS A COUNCILMAN IS PUBLIC SAFETY, TOO.
AND YOU YOU HEAR ME TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A CRIME FIGHTER.
I CALL MYSELF A CRIME FIGHTER.
I DID IT FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I KNOW. AND I GREW UP IN NEW YORK CITY.
AND DURING THAT TIME IN BROOKLYN, IT WASN'T THE BEST TIME.
IT WAS GANGS. AND YOU CAN RELATE TO THAT.
AND I DON'T LIKE IT. AND I DON'T WANT TO EVER LIVE IN A CITY.
AND. IT'S ONE THING TO ENFORCE, TO ENFORCE THE LAWS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO BUY INTO IT. IF YOU HAVE JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE DON'T WANT A POLICE STATE, BUT WE WANT LAW AND ORDER.
SO. AND THE POLICE CHIEF HAS BACKED ME ON THIS.
AND IT MIGHT NOT BE A SMOKE IN THE HOUSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.
AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, TOO.
PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND AS LONG AS I SIT ON THIS COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO ALWAYS PREACH THAT.
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NO DISRESPECT FOR ALL THE CITY WORKERS.I APPRECIATE PUBLIC WORKS AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
BUT. I DON'T WANT US I DON'T WANT OUR CRIME RATE TO BE LIKE ORLANDO.
I DON'T THINK WE. ORLANDO OR MIAMI OR OR NEW ORLEANS.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THAT RANKING IS.
I THINK WE'VE GOT AN OUTSTANDING POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT BETTER.
WE NEED TO MAKE SAFETY IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, LET ME LET ME JUST HIGHLIGHT.
IT'S JUST NOT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
THERE'S THOSE PEOPLE ON THE LINE.
LISTEN RIGHT NOW, LET ME ENCOURAGE YOU.
LET ME TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE YOU.
THEY'LL WORK IN 16 HOUR DAYS, AND THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY LOVE WHAT THEY DO.
I'M TELLING YOU, THEY WILL DO DOUBLE SHIFTS.
AND LET ME ENCOURAGE YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE CHIEF.
HEY, I WANT TO GO SEE OUR DISPATCHERS IN ALL IN ACTION.
THEY ARE DEDICATED EMPLOYEES, AND SO WE'RE FACED WITH A CROSSROADS.
CHIEF SAID CHIEF AJELLO SAID IT.
HE SAID THE DAYS OF ASKING TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
IT'S YOU CAN ONLY STRETCH A RUBBER BAND SO FAR BEFORE IT SNAPS.
AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED ON WHAT THE VISION WAS AND WHERE WHERE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO.
AND THAT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS.
I'M PREPARING OUR HEARTS, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE I REALLY AND I WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
TERESA ON SHORT NOTICE CAME UP WITH THIS AND I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SO BUT ANYWAY, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORTS.
BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY EDUCATIONAL, VERY INFORMATIVE.
SO THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING THOSE THOUGHTS, RELATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS AND ASKS MS..
BROWN IF SHE HAS ANY OF THOSE.
THANK YOU. YES, I HAVE ONE ITEM AND TWO EXCUSE ME, TWO REMINDERS.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS: ]
THE ONE ITEM THAT I HAVE IS A REQUEST OF COUNCIL FOR CONSENSUS.WE NOW HAVE A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, SAM WEEKLEY.
I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS TO APPOINT HIM TO THE BOARD.
I THINK. WELL, WE GOT THUMBS UP, COUNCILMAN FOLSOM.
I MEAN, FILIBERTO, JUST A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE APPOINT A CITY STAFF.
SHOULD SHOULD WE APPOINT A COUNCILMAN INSTEAD? THAT'S JUST A QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT EDC STANDARDS OR.
UM. WELL, I WOULD, IF I MAY OFFER MY POINT OF VIEW.
IF COUNCIL WISHES TO APPOINT A COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S CERTAINLY FINE.
ARE YOU INTERESTED? COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
I'D HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT AS LONG AS HIS COUNSEL IS OKAY WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD INTEREST YOU? IT WOULD DEFINITELY INTEREST ME.
THE ADC APPOINTMENT, ABSOLUTELY.
IS IT AN ADC APPOINTMENT DIRECTLY WITH THAT? I WOULD BE FINE IF IF HE'S WILLING TO SERVE, THE ADC RELIES ON THE CITY TO APPOINT.
OKAY. SO I WOULD I DON'T KNOW COUNSEL.
QUESTION. NOW WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO? HAVING STAFF ON THAT, ON THAT.
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I COULD JUST SPEAK FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE.SERVING ON THAT BOARD IS IF I MY PAST EXPERIENCE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AS ACTING CITY MANAGER IS TO HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
OKAY. CAN WE DO? A MANAGER IN THE CITY COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE ONE POSITION.
DISRESPECT COUNCILMAN OF THE STAFF.
THERE'S NO DISRESPECT THERE. SO IF THERE'S A MAJORITY THAT THINK THAT THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE, I JUST WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE THAT I FEEL COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD BE ON THIS BOARD. BUT IF COUNCIL DISAGREES WITH THAT, THAT'S THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE AS A MAJORITY, SIR.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
IN THE PAST, I'VE BEEN APPOINTED TO BOTH OF THEM.
I HAVE NO NEED TO SIT ON EITHER OF THEM IF COUNCIL IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WISHES TO SERVE ON THAT ONE.
AND PUT THE EXPERT WHERE THE TAX ABATEMENT SHOULD BE.
I SUPPORT THAT. I SUPPORT THAT.
WOULD YOU GIVE UP THAT POSITION? WILL. WILL APPOINT COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO? CERTAINLY. I'VE GOT PLENTY OF WORK TO DO.
OKAY. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, DO YOU WANT THAT IN A MOTION? YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NEED CONSENSUS, BUT GIVE ME ONE SECOND, JOAN.
MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM I'M 100%.
IF I DO IT, I JUST WON'T CONFIRM THE DATE AND TIME OF THESE MEETINGS.
WE TYPICALLY HOLD THEM, I THINK ONCE A QUARTER THEY HAVE ONE COMING UP.
IT'S A ONCE A QUARTER MEETING.
YES. SO THEY HAVE ANNUAL MEETINGS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE ONCE A QUARTER.
THANK YOU. SO DO YOU WANT THAT IN MOTION? WE SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY FOUR OF US THAT AGREE.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, YOU ARE NOW ON THE EDC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
IS THAT WHAT IS CALLED EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS? CONGRATULATIONS. DOES THAT.
SORRY, I TRY NOT TO BELABOR IT TOO LONG.
I HAVE TWO REMINDERS FOR FOR EVERYBODY.
THE FIRST IS THAT WE HAVE AGAIN THE COMP PLANNED WORKSHOP AUGUST 25TH FROM 6 TO 8 P.M.
RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM. THERE'S ALSO A VIRTUAL OPTION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, EITHER THROUGH THE ONLINE SURVEYS VIRTUALLY, OR AT THIS MEETING, PLEASE GO TO PBA FLORAL VISION.
MY SECOND REMINDER IS JUST THE ARPA DEADLINE.
THAT APPLICATION PERIOD CLOSES, SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE SUBMITTING YOUR APPLICATIONS ON TIME.
IT IS REQUIRED TO ATTEND THE MANDATORY TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CALL IF YOU WANT TO APPLY FOR FUNDS.
THE INFORMATION ON ALL OF THIS CAN BE FOUND AT PDF L'ORGANISATION ARPA ARPA.
NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, FLORIDA HOLBERT.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES: ]
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BUT YOUR RENT. MY TECHNOLOGY STRAIGHTENED UP HERE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS TONIGHT.I HAVE PICTURES FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THAT PLACE.
IT'S ACTUALLY BLOCKING THE ROADWAY.
NOW WHAT I REALLY COME UP HERE FOR.
IN MAY 1994, THREE MALES ROBBED A JEWELRY STORE IN DAYTONA BEACH.
NETTING $500,000 WORTH OF GOLD AND DIAMONDS.
THE ROBBERS HAD DROPPED OFF JEWELRY FOR REPAIRS AND LATER RETURNED TO ROBERT.
THEN IN 1994, FOUR INDIVIDUALS ROBBED A JEWELRY STORE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
THEY GOT AWAY. THE ROBBERS TOOK $480,000.
THIS IS THE GUY. YOU GIVE THE FLAG TO THE KNIGHT.
I HOPE YOU GUYS VET THESE GUYS BETTER.
CARRY ON. WANT ME TO STAY HERE? BUSH, IF YOU WANNA HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, WE CAN DECIDE OR HERE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO WHAT THE CALLER SAID.
I WAS I WAS FULLY AWARE AND I BELIEVE MOST PEOPLE WORK.
THE PERSON WE GAVE THE FLAG TO.
MOST PEOPLE DO KNOW THAT HE WAS A JEWEL THIEF.
AND THAT'S WHY I HIGHLIGHTED HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF HOW HE TURNED HIS LIFE AROUND.
HE WROTE A BOOK. I HAVE THE BOOK HERE.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE BOOK TO READ.
I'M SURE HE'S AN HONORABLE MAN.
HE'S AN EXAMPLE. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GIVE HIM A FLAG BESIDES FROM HIS DUTY.
SO I'M GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT BOOK, SIR.
SURE. AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU READ IT.
I JUST I JUST, LIKE SEE SOME OF OUR VETS THAT'S LOST LIMBS, ARMS DISFIGURED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THEM NOMINATED.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR? FOR ANY ITEM, ANY ISSUE.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE MEETING COMING UP IN AUGUST, AND I'D REQUESTED BEFORE MEETINGS IF THERE WAS, SOMEBODY COULD PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH ME BECAUSE I ATTEND THESE MEETINGS HERE IN THESE CHAMBERS.
BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SEE IS HOW THE DECISION MAKING BEHIND THE SCENE IS HAPPENING.
GEOLOGICAL MASSES OF THE CITY.
LIKE WHERE IS OUR RECHARGE? WHERE'S OUR WATER RECHARGE STATIONS? WHERE IS OUR NATURAL WET STORAGE AREAS? THAT WAS OUR WATER REPLENISHMENT STATIONS.
I DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT IN ANY OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.
AND TO ME THAT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS SAYING, LOOK, THERE'S NO HOUSES HERE.
THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO PUT THE INDUSTRIAL.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY PLACE THAT'S SHOWING THE RECHARGE AREAS AND PEOPLE DON'T THINK IT'S IMPORTANT UNTIL THEY TURN ON THE WELLS OR SPIGOTS AND NO WATER WILL BE ASKING FOR THE RECYCLED WATER THAT THEY JUST PUMPED DOWN.
COULD WE STILL HAVE THAT BACK? ANY OF THE WATER THAT'S BEING PUMPED DOWN, THE DEEP WELL INJECTION, THEY'LL SAY, WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REPLENISHING, BECAUSE WE GOT RID OF IN OUR COMP PLAN, WE GOT RID OF OUR RECHARGE WATERS OR SPACES, WHICH IS ONE MORE TIME IS ALSO CALLED OUR GREEN SPACE.
WATER RECHARGE. WE NEED OUR GREEN SPACES THAT THAT ACCOMPLISHES THAT OBJECTIVE.
EVERYBODY SAYS WE NEED THEM AND WE MAKE A QUARTER ACRE LOT.
OH, LOOK, WE GAVE YOU ONE ON THIS BLOCK.
THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS 1000 ACRES OF RECHARGE.
I ATTEND THESE, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? GOOD EVENING. TEN CORCORAN 2124 ONE BROOK DRIVE JUST TO BUILD ON MR.
[04:30:04]
BARRON'S COMMENTS JUST RECENTLY.I'VE TAKEN A PARTICULAR INTEREST BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE TO TRY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, SPECIFICALLY WITH AN INTEREST IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS. AND SO I REACHED OUT TO THE FOLKS IN THE GROWTH DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION AND THEY ASKED ME TO BE PATIENT, THAT THEY'RE GATHERING DATA AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK OUR WAY FORWARD AND YOU OUGHT TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
SO I WAS IT WAS ENCOURAGED WHEN WE HAD THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN IT.
BUT I DO SHARE MR. BOWDEN'S CONCERN THAT I WAS ASKING MORE QUESTIONS OF PROCESS AND WAS TOLD THAT WE'RE JUST IN THE DATA GATHERING MODE.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE INVOLVED, OR AT LEAST LOOK OVER THE SHOULDER OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAKING THE DECISIONS AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO CARVE UP THIS CITY AND IF WE'RE MAKING SOME SOME DECISIONS ON FUTURE LAND USE NOW AND MAKING A CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE, WELL, WHY ARE WE MAKING THOSE CHANGES AND WHERE'S THE CONTINUITY? SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO FIGURE OUT IF SOMEONE COULD REACH OUT TO ME AND TELL ME HOW I CAN GET INVOLVED IN EITHER GETTING INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OR AT LEAST LOOKING OVER THE SHOULDER.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THE THE PROCESS HAS SOME INTEGRITY AND HAS A PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO DECIDED TO SETTLE IN PALM BAY. APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM BROWN.
I'M HOPING THAT THERE IS STILL.
YES. SO THERE'S A STACK OF CARDS ON THIS TABLE HERE.
THANK YOU, BRIAN. THE CARDS HAVE A QR CODE ON THE BACK.
YOU SCAN THE QR CODE ON THE BACK OF THAT CARD, IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE VISION PLAN AND COMP PLAN.
SHE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
GET YOU INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
AND WE KNOW THAT MASTER CHIEF BATTEN WANTS TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? CNN. BEFORE WE CONCLUDE, I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU ON AN OUTSTANDING JOB THIS WEEK, ACTING AS CITY MANAGER.
ANYTIME I CALLED, YOU WERE AVAILABLE AND REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.