Aug 18, 2022 Council Meetings - Regular

OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022 DASH 22.

[CALL TO ORDER: ]

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AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN DONNIE FELIX.

AND YOU ALL, PLEASE RISE.

DON'T.

LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL DAY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS, LORD, AND YOUR FAVOR UPON US AND YOUR GRACE THROUGH THIS DAY.

AND WE ALSO ASK LORD THAT YOU BLESS THIS MEETING.

OUR COUNCIL, OUR MAYOR, AND I THANK HIM FOR THE INVITATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME.

AND I PRAY THAT TONIGHT YOU WILL BLESS THIS COUNCIL AND THAT ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND QUESTIONS AND WHATEVER IS IN THERE THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND FOR ALL OF US.

WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU GIVE US THE WISDOM, GIVE THEM THE WISDOM, THE KNOWLEDGE, SO THAT THEY CAN GO FORWARD AND HAVE A BLESSED MEETING TONIGHT.

AND I PRAY FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILY.

AND I KNOW THAT WITHOUT YOUR GRACE, IT'S HARD.

AND I KNOW THAT WHATEVER.

WE ALSO NEED WISDOM BECAUSE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE FEAR OF THE LORD.

AND I JUST PRAY AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS MOMENT.

AND I ASK YOU IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.

AND AMY. TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.

WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MAN. OKAY.

WE'RE ON ROLL CALL. MADAM JONES PRESENT HERE.

FOSTER. FOSTER BUT IT'S.

FEEL IT. HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.

[ ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

THANK YOU. MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.

ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS BANKING INDUSTRY ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL, HOME BUILDER OR NONPROFIT PROVIDER.

ONE TERM EXPIRING ON THE MALVERN TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 32195 230 414.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. MADAM SHERMAN AGENDA REVISIONS.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

V RW DASH THREE 2020 TO BE CONTINUED TO THE SEPTEMBER 1ST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION SO MOVED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

DO YOU HAVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER ON THE LINE YET, MA'AM? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

THIS IS UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO. MR. SHERMAN? YES, SIR.

THE SECOND AGENDA REVISION IS THAT THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS HAS REQUESTED THAT CASE PD 26 2020 TO BE CONTINUED TO THE SEPTEMBER 15TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE THE ITEM TO BE CONSIDERED WITH THE ACCOMPANYING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CASE.

DID YOU SAY ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? YES, SIR. UNDER UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

TO SEPTEMBER 15.

YES, SIR. OKAY, COUNSEL, I NEED A MOTION, SO MOVE SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN, ON THIS ONE? CNN ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE REGARDING ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT.

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IS EVERYONE KNOW ANYONE HERE FOR ITEMS SEVEN OR EIGHT? I PASSED ON THE INFORMATION, MISS SMITH.

ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

PROCLAMATIONS.

MISS DEBBIE AND YOUR TEAM CAN COME ON DOWN.

OH, NO, IT'S FINE. BRING. BRING THE WHOLE CREW.

BRING THE TEAM. BRING THE WHOLE CREW ON UP.

COME ON OUT, FELLAS. JUST.

JUST A FEW.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THAT WHEREAS THE MELBOURNE TIMMERMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT WAS INITIALLY AUTHORIZED AS AN INDEPENDENT DISTRICT IN 1922 FOR LAND RECLAMATION, FOR AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT THROUGH A NETWORK OF CANALS LEVEES THAT WOULD DIVERT RUNOFF EASTWARD TO TURKEY CREEK.

AND. WHEREAS, CONSTRUCTION OF THE CANALS AND LEVEE SYSTEM CONTINUED THROUGH 1928 WHEN OPERATIONS CEASED DUE TO FUNDING DIFFICULTIES, LEAVING THE PROJECT IN TURMOIL FOR DECADES UNTIL THE WATER CONTROL STRUCTURE MASS ONE WAS BUILT AND BECAME OPERATIONAL IN 1980.

AND. WHEREAS, THE MELBOURNE TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT WAS REORGANIZED AS A DEPENDENT DISTRICT IN 1986 AND BEGAN A METHODICAL PROGRAM OF CANAL REHABILITATION IN SOUTHERN BREVARD COUNTY THAT INCLUDES CANAL MAINTENANCE AND ACCESS RECONSTRUCTION THROUGH BRUSH AND TREE REMOVAL.

AND. WHEREAS, THE MELVIN TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT NOW OWNS AND MAINTAINS 20,300 ACRES OF CANAL RIGHT AWAY AND 163 MILES OF CANALS WITH A STAFF OF 20 PEOPLE, MOST WHICH ARE UP HERE RIGHT NOW, AND A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM BREVARD COUNTY, THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE. AND. WHEREAS, THE MELBOURNE TIMMERMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CONTINUES THEIR IMPORTANT WORK THROUGH PROJECTS SUCH AS THE C ONE RE DIVERSION PROJECT, WHICH RETAINS STORMWATER RUNOFF WITH THE CANAL RIGHT OF WAY TO THE MEET, THE TOTAL MAXIMUM DAILY LOAD REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

AND. WHEREAS, THROUGH ITS WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, THE MELBOURNE TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT PROMOTES CONSERVATION, PRESERVES NATURAL RESOURCE, MAINTAINS WATER QUALITY AND PREVENTS DAMAGE FROM FLOODING AND PORTIONS OF UNINCORPORATED BREVARD COUNTY, THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE.

NOW THEREFORE, I, KENNY JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AND COMMEND THE MELBOURNE TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT FOR CONSTRUCTING, RECONSTRUCTING, REPAIRING, MAINTAINING AND OPERATING AN OUTSTANDING SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN BREVARD COUNTY FOR 100 YEARS. AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE ON TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE A FIXED THIS 18 DAY OF AUGUST 2022.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION VERY MUCH.

AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE.

I'LL LET BILL WEINBERG IS OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS PRESIDENT AND I'LL LET HIM INTRODUCE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE.

BUT OUR DISTRICT STAFF, PART OF OUR AMAZING TEAM, MIKE MCCABE, HE'S OUR DISTRICT ENGINEER.

WE HAVE GEORGE REINBOLDT.

HE IS OUR GROUP LEADER FOR FACILITY MAINTENANCE.

ALAN BIRBECK IS OUR AQUATICS MAINTENANCE GROUP LEADER.

JOHN GERKEN IS OUR ASSISTANT MANAGER OF OPERATIONS AND JACOB O'CONNOR IS OUR CANAL MAINTENANCE GROUP LEADER.

AND I'M SORRY, DWAYNE.

DWAYNE YOUNG, HE IS IN CANAL MAINTENANCE.

HE'S A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 20 EMPLOYEES THAT THAT MAINTAINS 163 MILES OF CANALS, 2300 ACRES OF RIGHT AWAY, OVER APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED SQUARE MILE AREA.

I THINK IT'S AMAZING THE JOB THAT THEY DO, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM.

I AM ALSO PROUD OF OUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.

WE HAVE OUR BOARD VICE PRESIDENT JOE HILL RIGHT HERE AND OUR BOARD MEMBER, DREW POCOCK.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD.

I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL.

AND I'M JUST HONORED TO SERVE ON THIS ON THIS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BOARD.

AND AGAIN, I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

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ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELL, YOU DID AWESOME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, SIR. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANKS TO ALL.

DO YOU HAVE A. YOUR MONEY.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE SPEAKER CARDS? PERSONAL ITEMS. YES, SIR. WELL, THIS PRESENTATION FIRST.

OH, AS YOU WERE.

YES, SIR. AS YOU WERE.

I SKIPPED RIGHT THROUGH PRESENTATION.

[PRESENTATIONS:]

THANK YOU. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM STANTEC, THE FIRM THAT HAS DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUDIES FOR US THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, INCLUDING RATE STUDIES AND IMPACT STUDIES.

BUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS A REVIEW OF OUR GENERAL FUND SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS.

IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE COUNSEL HAS SEEN THIS PRESENTATION, SO WE'VE UPDATED IT.

PETER NAPOLI IS HERE WITH STANTEC TO PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION TO YOU AND WE FIGURED IT WAS GOOD TIMING GIVEN THAT WE'VE JUST KIND OF CONCLUDED THE THE BULK OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE LATEST UPDATES WITH CURRENT NUMBERS.

SO PETER, IT'S ALL YOURS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION, MADAM CITY MANAGER.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS PETER NAPOLI AND I'M A CONSULTANT WITH STANTEC CONSULTING.

OUR TEAM PERFORMED A GENERAL FUND SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY THIS YEAR AND I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION SUMMARIZING THE RESULTS AND THEN OFFERING A FEW SCENARIOS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I'LL START WITH EXPLAINING OUR PROCESS AT A HIGH LEVEL.

THEN WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE KEY INPUTS AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE UTILIZED TO BUILD THE FORECASTING MODEL THIS YEAR.

WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WE PERFORMED FOR THE CITY AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS, AND I'M OPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

SO OUR PROCESS INVOLVES CONDUCTING A BASELINE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

MA'AM? MA'AM.

EXCUSE ME. WE'RE TRYING TO.

THANK YOU. SO AS I WAS SAYING, THE THE FIRST STEP IN OUR PROCESS IS CONDUCTING A BASELINE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.

THIS ALLOWS US TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR SCENARIO EVALUATION.

THEN WE IT ALLOWS US TO ALSO EXPLORE THE IMPACTS OF FUTURE DECISION ALTERNATIVES AND GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE.

THE GOAL AT THE END OF THE DAY IS TO DEVELOP A LONG TERM FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY.

SO THE KEY INPUTS AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE UTILIZED IN THIS STUDY THIS YEAR WILL START WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 ENDING FUND BALANCE, AND THAT'S UTILIZED AS THE STARTING POINT, THE FISCAL YEAR 22 STARTING FUND BALANCE.

THE GOAL OF THE PROJECTION IS TO PROJECT THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND OVER TIME.

CURRENTLY, IT'S ESTIMATED AT 25 MILLION WILL AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 21, WHICH IS ABOUT 35% OF OPERATING EXPENSES.

THE TWO MONTH MINIMUM RESERVE TARGET REPRESENTS 16.7% OF YOUR OPERATING EXPENSES.

WE START THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROJECTION PERIOD WITH THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN FISCAL YEAR 22 AND WE RECEIVED THE YEAR END ESTIMATES FOR REVENUES AND EXPENSES. THE SECOND YEAR IS BUILT BASED ON THE FISCAL YEAR 23 PROPOSED BUDGET.

THEN WE HAVE ESCALATION FACTORS FOR ALL THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES WITHIN THE BUDGETS THAT PROJECT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECTION PERIOD.

OUT TO FISCAL YEAR 2032, THE AVERAGE REVENUE ESCALATION IS ABOUT 3.25% AND THE AVERAGE EXPENSE ESCALATION IS ABOUT 2.77%. SO THOSE AFFECT ALL OF THE LINE ITEM REVENUES AND EXPENSES IN THE BUDGET.

THEN WE ALSO LAYER IN YOUR CAPITAL PLAN THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY YOUR STAFF AS IMPORTANT CAPITAL PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE RENEWAL AND

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SO THE FIRST SCENARIO THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TOGETHER IS THE BASELINE SCENARIO.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THE SCREEN, SO I ADDED A BUNCH OF CALL OUTS AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH STEP BY STEP AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.

WE HAVE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE AND THIS IS A MAJOR ASSUMPTION FOR THE FORECASTING MODEL.

THIS CURRENT BASELINE SCENARIO JUST ASSUMES STATUS QUO.

YOU MAINTAIN YOUR CURRENT MILITARY, YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE THROUGHOUT THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION.

THE THE LEFT HAND GRAPH SHOWS THE PROJECTION OF THE FUND BALANCE.

SO CURRENTLY YOU'LL SEE THAT THE FUN BALANCE HAS SOME ROOM ABOVE THE BLACK LINE, WHICH REPRESENTS THAT MINIMUM RESERVE REQUIREMENT FOR UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, EMERGENCIES, ETC.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE PROJECTED FUND BALANCE FALL BELOW THAT BLACK LINE.

YOU ENTER INTO A SITUATION, SITUATION WHERE YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MAJOR ADJUSTMENT, EITHER ON THE REVENUE SIDE OR THE EXPENSE SIDE.

THE BASELINE PROJECTION REFLECTS THE FULL CAPITAL PLAN AS IDENTIFIED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2223.

FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, THAT RESULTS IN AN AVERAGE SPENDING OF ABOUT $20 MILLION IN EACH OF THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

THE THE LATTER PART OF THE PROJECTION PERIOD INCLUDES ONLY A FIVE $5 MILLION ANNUAL SPENDING FOR UNSPECIFIED CAPITAL, JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER. SO IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND SIDE GRAPH ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND SIDE GRAPH.

THIS GRAPH REPRESENTS THE FUNDING OF THE CAPITAL PLAN.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE BAKED INTO THE PROJECTION NOT ONLY CASH FUNDING BUT DEBT FUNDING OF CERTAIN PROJECTS.

SINCE THERE WERE SOME MAJOR FACILITY EXPANSION PROJECTS, THAT BIG, BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT PROJECTS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THE RESERVES TO CASH FUND. WE ASSUMED THAT THEY'D BE DEBT FUNDED TO HELP SMOOTH THE ANNUAL SPENDING OF CAPITAL.

SO THAT'S ALREADY REFLECTED IN THE PLAN.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, THE RESULT OF THE CAPITAL PLAN BEING FUNDED AT 100% REDUCES THE RESERVES PRETTY RAPIDLY IN THE CITY. SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE TOP LEFT HAND GRAPH RESERVES ACTUALLY FALL OR PROJECTED TO FALL BELOW THE MINIMUM RESERVE REQUIREMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 24, ONLY TWO YEARS AWAY.

THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOWS REVENUES AND EXPENSES PRESENTED BY LINES AND A LINE GRAPH.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE ORANGE LINE IS THE EXPENSES.

THE ORANGE LINE IS ABOVE THE BLACK LINE, WHICH IS REVENUES IN THOSE FIRST FIVE YEARS, WHICH REPRESENTS CASH FLOW DEFICITS.

WHENEVER YOU SPEND MORE THAN YOU MAKE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UTILIZE FUND BALANCE.

AND FUND BALANCE IS A FINITE SOURCE IN ORDER TO COVER THAT GAP BETWEEN REVENUES AND EXPENSES.

OUR NEXT SCENARIO HERE REPRESENTS A SUSTAINABLE SITUATION WHERE THE IDENTIFIED CAPITAL PLAN IS ACTUALLY EXECUTED AT 60%. SO WE LOOKED AT HOW MUCH COULD THE CITY AFFORD AND MAINTAIN THE RESERVE FUND BALANCE THROUGHOUT THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION PERIOD ABOVE OR AT THE MINIMUM RESERVE REQUIREMENT.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN THAT TOP LEFT HAND GRAPH THOSE BLUE BARS, THAT REPRESENTING FUND BALANCE, MEET THAT BLACK LINE ACROSS THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION.

AND THIS IS A GOOD SITUATION FOR THE CITY YOU'RE SPENDING IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS ON AVERAGE, $12.3 MILLION IN CAPITAL, AND THE 60% EXECUTION RESULTS IN $40 MILLION OF DEFERRED CAPITAL.

SO THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO EXECUTE ON IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

AND THE THINKING IS THAT YOU'D HAVE TO EXECUTE ON THEM AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, SO YOU'D HAVE TO DEFER THEM.

SO WHAT WHAT THIS DOESN'T SHOW YOU IS THAT DEFERRED CAPITAL BEING AFFORDED AT ANY POINT IN THE PROJECTION PERIOD.

WE STILL HAVE THE DEBT FUNDING FOR CERTAIN CAPITAL PROJECTS BAKED IN.

YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE RIGHT HAND, THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND GRAPH WITH THE REPRESENTED BY THE RED COMPONENT OF THAT BAR CHART.

BUT THIS IS STILL THIS IS A GOOD PLAN.

SO ONE PART OF THIS PLAN THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, IS IT MAINTAINS THE CURRENT MILITARY THROUGHOUT THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION.

THE NEXT SCENARIO THAT WILL SHOW HERE ACTIVATES THE CURRENT TAX CAP POLICY.

SO YOU HAVE A POLICY THAT CAPS THE REVENUE GROWTH, THE TAX REVENUE GROWTH AT 3% EACH YEAR.

AND THIS YEAR YOU HAD TO VOTE, I THINK, TO OVERRIDE THAT IN ORDER TO EXPERIENCE THE REVENUE GROWTH FROM PROPERTY TAX VALUE.

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SO THIS IS SHOWING YOU THE SAME 60% CAPITAL FUNDING SCENARIO.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE THE MILLAGE RATE CAP POLICY IS ENACTED.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT OVER TIME THE THE REVENUES AREN'T SUFFICIENT IN ORDER TO FUND THAT LEVEL OF CAPITAL.

AND BY FISCAL YEAR 2026, WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT TOP LEFT HAND GRAPH, YOU'RE FALLING BELOW THE RESERVE TARGET.

SO THE NEXT SCENARIO THAT WE RAN WAS TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU COULD AFFORD WITH THE TAX CAP POLICY AND ACTIVE IN THE MODEL.

AND IT TURNS OUT THAT INSTEAD OF $40 MILLION OF DEFERRED CAPITAL, IT RESULTS IN $54 MILLION OF DEFERRED CAPITAL.

SO $14 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD AND WE'LL HAVE TO DEFER FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

SO THE PREVIOUS SCENARIOS WITH THE LOWER EXECUTED CAPITAL SHOWED AN AVERAGE SPENDING OF 12.3 MILLION IN CAPITAL FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

THIS ONE SHOWS $9.6 MILLION ON AVERAGE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND GRAPH.

AND THEN THE OUT YEARS, INSTEAD OF THE $5 MILLION FOR ANNUAL UNSPECIFIED CAPITAL SPENDING, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ABOUT $3.5 MILLION IN ANNUAL UNSPECIFIED CAPITAL SPENDING.

SO THIS THIS SHOWS THE THE ACTIVE TAX CAP POLICY AND A LOWERED EXECUTION OF YOUR CAPITAL PLAN IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN RESERVE TARGETS.

AND THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION AND THE SCENARIOS THAT WE RAN FOR YOU.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

FIRST, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

THIS PAINTS A REALLY TALL TELLING STORY OF OUR FUTURE.

IF WE DON'T BEGIN TO TAKE ACTION.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS OF MS..

NAPOLI? BUT ANY DISCUSSION WITH OUR CITY MANAGER? THE ONLY THING I WOULD JUST ADD, AND I THINK PETER DID A GREAT JOB JUST GIVING A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND MAKING SOMETHING THAT CAN BE VERY COMPLICATED, RATHER SIMPLE TO SEE VISUALLY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT ONE TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS SORT OF THE CONCLUSION TO THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD OVER A SERIES OF MEETINGS AND MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS WE CAN FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER, AND THE CRITICAL NEED DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD, I THINK, IS FURTHER EMPHASIZED BY SHOWING YOU THE DIFFICULTY WE HAVE MEETING SOME OF THESE NEEDS WITHOUT EXCEEDING THE CAP.

SO THAT IS ALL.

IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, HAPPY TO ANSWER, BUT I APPRECIATE IT, PETER.

THE QUESTION BEFORE I LET.

BRIAN COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE ASK.

IF HE WAS TO MATE TO THE PRESENTER, IF HE WAS TO MAINTAIN CAP POLICY, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT A RESERVE OPERATING TWO TO MINIMUM RESERVE OPERATING FUND? AND GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS IF YOU MAINTAIN THE CAP POLICY, HOW WOULD IT AFFECT THE CITY'S MINIMUM RESERVE OPERATING TARGET GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE? I THINK THE THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT IT WOULD IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO SPEND LESS ON CAPITAL. IT WOULD YOU WOULD HAVE LESS REVENUES IN ORDER TO ALLOCATE TOWARDS THE FUNDING OF YOUR CAPITAL PLAN.

AND YOU'D HAVE TO DEFER MORE CAPITAL INTO THE INTO THE LONG TERM.

YEAH, BUT THE RESERVE, THE TWO MONTH MINIMUM RESERVE IS A TARGET THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN FOR OUR EMERGENCY IN OUR CORRECT.

I'LL I'LL ANSWER THAT, SIR.

SO THE THE TWO MINIMUM, TWO MONTH MINIMUM EXCUSE ME, THE BASICALLY THE 17% RESERVES THAT WE MAINTAIN AS A MINIMUM REQUIRED RESERVE BALANCE IN GENERAL FUND. IT IS PART OF OUR CORE FINANCIAL POLICY IN TERMS OF HOW WE HANDLE GENERAL FUNDS.

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IT WOULD ALSO, OVER TIME, AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO ACQUIRE DEBT BECAUSE THE BOND RATING AGENCIES, FOR EXAMPLE, LOOK AT YOUR RESERVES AND SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT WHETHER YOU'RE FOLLOWING YOUR POLICIES AND IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO DO SO, IT BEGINS TO SPEAK TO THE HEALTH OF THE ORGANIZATION FINANCIALLY IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN OVER TIME.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

YES, IT DOES. YES, IT DOES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PETER.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE LOSE COMMUNICATIONS WHEN WE'RE NOT HERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR BEING SO KIND AS TO REVIEW THIS PRESENTATION WITH US.

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S AN HONOR TO WORK FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

[ PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

ROBERT STYE 1796 LINDBERGH DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

I DID NOT TAKE ANY NOTES.

SO THIS IS OFF THE HIP.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MAJORS.

THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR SEVEN MONTHS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

WE NEVER ONCE TALKED ABOUT NOT IN OUR BACKYARD.

WELL, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH 16 HIGHWAYS.

AND IF YOU DROP ANOTHER 367 HOMES IN THERE, YOU REALLY HAVE IT SOUNDS, AGAIN, LIKE AN OXYMORON.

YOU HAVE SUBURBAN CROWDING.

YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES.

TRAFFIC, SCHOOLS, HEALTH CARE, ETC..

THAT BEING SAID, I'M SURE YOU GUYS GET IT.

THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME WITH COUNCIL, FIRST OF ALL, THE POSITIVE THING WAS WHEN YOU VOTED DOWN THAT 800, WHATEVER THAT UNIT WAS ON LAST MEETING. AND I REALLY LIKED THE WAY YOU CAME TOGETHER AND YOU LOOKED AT THE INDIVIDUAL FOLKS, THE PEOPLE WHO PUT YOU IN THE CHAIRS THAT YOU'RE SITTING IN RIGHT NOW.

AND YOU TOOK THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SAYING THIS IS NOT WORK FOR OUR FELLOW RESIDENTS.

I MEAN, THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF HOPE.

WHAT I WANT TO PLANT A SEED HERE IS.

IMPACT FEES ARE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED.

NOT GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THE FIREHOUSES.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR HIRE OFFICERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

WHAT I HOPE YOU REALIZE IS YOU HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN THE FUTURE OF PALM BAY, WHICH WE ALL LIVE RIGHT NOW.

AND YOU HAVE ABOUT, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOU WANT TO READ, ABOUT 55% OF LAND MASS THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP.

SO THE MORATORIUM, I THINK YOU GUYS TOOK IT AS THE WORD AUDIT.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT GOING AWAY, GUYS.

PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT OF THE NEW YORK TRI-STATE AREA.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE OF HIGH TAXES, I GOT NAVY BUDDIES THAT ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE.

SO LOOK AT THIS FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.

TAKE A TAKE A PAUSE AND LOOK AT WHAT WORKS.

DIGGING UP THE MAJORS AND PUTTING 367 HOMES IS A NEGATIVE FOR YOUR FELLOW CONSTITUENTS AND THE CITY ITSELF.

I MEAN, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THERE.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PLAN THIS GOING FORWARD? HOW CAN YOU GIVE ME CONFIDENCE THAT YOU GOT IT? IN MY MIND WHEN YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON IS IS POLICE AND FIREMAN.

I HEARD A RUMOR THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU HAVE A MOTORCYCLE, A PLACE, A POLICE MOTORCYCLE.

YOU DON'T HAVE AN OFFICER TO PUT ON IT.

YOU KNOW, YOUR RESPONSE TIME IS SEVEN AND A HALF MINUTES.

IS IS SAFETY NOT ON THE TOP OF THE LIST ON OUR CHARTER HERE? WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE FOR US? IT OUGHT TO BE IF IT'S NOT, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN AN INSTITUTION THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT.

SO PLEASE LOOK AT THE LOOK AT MAKING SURE WE'RE SAFE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE.

BY IMPACT FEE, SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CORCORAN, FOLLOWED BY PAT BELPRE.

PHILLIP CORCORAN 1878 LYNBROOK BROOK DRIVE.

SO THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE IS CLOSED.

THE OWNER HAS SOLD OFF SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT AND HAS REMOVED MOST OF THE SPRINKLER HEADS AROUND THE GREENS.

CLEARLY SHE KNEW THE GREENS WOULD DIE QUICKLY.

THE PROPERTY VALUE OF THE GOLF COURSE HAS DROPPED SINCE JUNE, AS HAS THE VALUE OF ALL THE PROPERTIES IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

MS. JOINER DEALT A TRAGIC BLOW TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH IS STARVED FOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES.

I COMPARE PALM BAY TO MELBOURNE.

WE HAVE A MUCH LARGER POPULATION.

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OPEN HAS A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, A ZOO, A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL STADIUM, AN AIRPORT, A HUGE 400 ACRE PARK WITH ACTIVITIES GEARED FOR OLDER CITIZENS.

PALM BAY HAS TURKEY CREEK AND SEVERAL, SEVERAL CITY PARKS WHICH PROVIDE GREEN SPACE BUT HAVE ACTIVITIES MEANT FOR THE YOUNGER POPULATION.

I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THESE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR NEARLY A YEAR NOW AND I HAVE SEEN MANY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.

ALMOST ALL OF THEM MAXIMIZE RETURN ON INVESTMENT BY BUILDING AS MANY UNITS AS POSSIBLE WITH LITTLE OR NO GREEN SPACE OR PLACES DEFINED FOR RECREATION.

BASIC NEEDS LIKE POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES HAVE BEEN IGNORED.

WHEN I LOOK AT BAYSIDE, LAKE'S MANY RECREATION AREAS AND GREEN SPACES WERE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN, THE MAIN CLUBHOUSE AND SEVERAL SWIMMING POOLS WERE BUILT.

TENNIS COURTS, PICKLEBALL, BASKETBALL AND WALKING TRAILS WERE ALL DEFINED RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

IN SUMMERFIELD, THE AREA KNOWN AS THE PRESERVE, REMAINS UNDEVELOPED TO THIS DAY, AND WE ALSO HAD A GOLF COURSE.

SADLY, IT'S GONE.

SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? WE NEED TO PROVIDE PLANNING IN THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR MORE GREEN SPACES AND ACTIVITIES DESIGNED FOR OUR OLDER RESIDENTS.

WE NEED TO KEEP GREEN GREEN SPACES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEFINED AND NOT ALLOW THEM TO BE DESTROYED OR DENSELY POPULATED.

FURTHERMORE, WE NEED TO REOPEN THE GOLF COURSE OR PLAN FOR A NEW ONE.

MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN CALLING CODE ENFORCEMENT, ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE MAJOR'S PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE BEEN. THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEIR FERN GRASS IN MANY AREAS IS MORE THAN TWO FEET TALL.

WELL, I'LL SEE AS ONLY A FEW YARDS ALONG THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE SHOULD INSIST THAT THE ENTIRE GOLF COURSE BE MAINTAINED, AS WAS DONE AT PORT MALABAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PAT BELPRE, FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN.

GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS PAT DAPAAH FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE, AND I WAS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS FOR CARDINAL WOODS OFF OF FALLON.

SO MY.

I WANTED TO JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DECISION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREATLY APPRECIATED, APPRECIATES IT.

AND I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE, AND THEY WERE THEY WERE JUST VERY ECSTATIC ABOUT THE DECISION.

AND I ALSO STAND IN AGREEMENT WITH THE BAYSIDE PEOPLE THAT SOMETHING REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND I JUST WANT TO PRAY THAT THE LORD WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT ON MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND I PRAY THAT WE ALL WILL HAVE A PART IN IT.

I DO PLAN ON BEING HERE NEXT WEEK AT THE WORKSHOP.

I DO HAVE A CONCERN.

THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF PALM BAY HAS BEEN DEALING WITH A WATER ISSUE.

SO MY CONCERN IS THE AQUIFERS.

MAYBE WE ARE OVERBUILDING IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION AND CAUSING A PROBLEM THERE.

UTILITIES SAY IT'S SAFE TO DRINK, BUT IT HAS A VERY EARTHY, DIRTY SMELL TO IT.

SO IT'S THROUGHOUT THE NORTHEAST.

SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP AND I WILL CONTINUE TO TALK WITH UTILITIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. GO BATTING, FOLLOWED BY RAYMOND REED.

SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

AND COUNSEL KNOWS I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS FOR MORE THAN A WEEK NOW.

I'VE BEEN COMING FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.

COMING TO THESE MEETINGS, MISSED VERY FEW.

BUT AND I DO MY HOMEWORK, I GET THE AGENDA PACKET AND I ACTUALLY DO WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO AS A INVOLVED CITIZEN.

I DO A LOT OF HOMEWORK, BUT WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH THE PACKETS, I, IT GENERATES A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR ME TO TRY AND GET ANSWERS.

SO I BECAUSE WHEN I ADDRESS YOU LOTS OF TIMES I'VE ALREADY GOT THE ANSWER.

I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT FROM MY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND SO I LIKE TO MAKE A COMPARISON FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD TO WHAT I WAS TOLD LATER.

SO BUT THAT'S JUST BILL BATTEN.

BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT HOMEWORK, I HAVE TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE FROM PEOPLE SOMETIMES, AND THAT PUTS MORE WORK ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

BUT SO I MAKE A PHONE CALL TO THE CITY OR I GIVE AN EMAIL TO THE CITY, TO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS, AND I USUALLY GET VERY GOOD HELP.

SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THERE, BUT USUALLY IT'S VERY GOOD.

SO I'D LIKE TO CALL OUT A COUPLE OF NAMES THAT HAVE HELPED ME, AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM INDIVIDUALLY BY NAME BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET IT THIS LAST TIME BECAUSE A COUPLE OF START WHERE THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING ME THE INFORMATION.

BUT THEY DID. KRISTEN SOARES HELPED ME GREATLY AND ALEXANDER BERNARD HELPED ME GREATLY.

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I HEAR SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT.

IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT AN INSTANT CALLBACK SOMETIMES, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

BUT I NORMALLY GET A RESPONSE.

I DON'T ALWAYS GET THE ANSWER I WANT, BUT I DO GET A RESPONSE.

SO I JUST WANT TO CALL THEM OUT BY NAME AND LET THEM KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE IT, EVEN IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T PUT ANY MORE MONEY IN THEIR PAYCHECK, BUT IT'S APPRECIATED BY THEIR ACTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MASTER CHIEF RAYMOND REED, FOLLOWED BY KATY NUNEZ.

ARE YOU FOLKS DOING TODAY? CONGRATULATIONS. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, RETIRED AND CAME DOWN FROM PENNSYLVANIA THE OTHER DAY.

I RECEIVED A ORDINANCE VIOLATION FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS.

I HAVE A PACKET HERE THAT I WANT TO PRESENT TO WHOMEVER.

TO REVIEW.

AND AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IF WE COULD GET TO DISCUSS MY CONCERNS ONE ON ONE, I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME ON THE CLOCK.

I WILL STATE THAT THERE ARE ERRORS AND OMISSIONS WITHIN OUR CURRENT CODES.

SO ABOUT ALL I HAVE.

SO BEFORE WE GO ON, I WANTED TO TO COVER A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, I KNOW ONE OF THEM WAS THE CODE VIOLATIONS REGARDING THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.

I WANT TO DIG DEEPER INTO THAT AND THEN CARRY ON.

OH, GEEZ. YES.

SO I'M AWARE THAT, UH, THE CODE HAS BEEN ACTIVELY LOOKING AT THE GOLF COURSE.

I ONLY RECENTLY THIS WEEK LEARNED THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT ARE BEHIND THE SCENES BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THEM TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE OWNER IS MOWING ALL THE AREAS APPROPRIATELY MAINTAINING THEM.

SO THAT'S ON OUR ON OUR RADAR.

THE QUESTION ABOUT WATER QUALITY.

YES, SIR. SO SO I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND I'LL JUST SAY A COUPLE QUICK POINTS.

IT WAS ON MY ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS FOR LATER, SO I'LL COVER IT NOW.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN SEEING AN INCREASE.

IT'S NOT BEEN HUNDREDS, BUT IT'S BEEN INTERESTINGLY SPORADIC COMPLAINTS.

SO EVERY TIME WE GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT WATER QUALITY AND IT HAS BEEN PRIMARILY IN THE NORTHEAST, WE WILL SEND OUT OUR TEAM TO TEST THE WATER QUALITY IN THAT AREA OR AT THAT SOURCE IF THE RESIDENT WILL ALLOW US TO DO SO.

IT IS MEETING ALL OF OUR WATER QUALITY STANDARDS.

SO WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER POTENTIAL CAUSES OF THESE COMPLAINTS THAT, AGAIN, IT'S NOT BEEN LIKE ONE SPECIFIC STREET OR AREA.

IT'S JUST BEEN KIND OF A LITTLE HARDER TO PINPOINT.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY IN ANSWER TO TO THE PUBLIC.

AND WE'LL ASK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, TO CONTINUE TO GIVE US YOUR IF THERE'S COMPLAINTS, IF THERE'S CONCERNS, PLEASE, PLEASE CALL US OR EMAIL US.

WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE IT HELPS US SORT OF CONTINUE TO EXPLORE WHAT THE ISSUES MIGHT BE.

AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, THE NUMBER TO CALL WOULD BE 32195 230, 420.

ALSO, WE HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS.

IT'S UCS, WHICH STANDS FOR UTILITY CUSTOMER SERVICE AT PALM BAY, FLORIDA DOT ORG.

SO EITHER CALL OR EMAIL US AND STAFF CAN GET THAT TO YOU IF YOU IF YOU MISSED IT YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL MY OFFICE CITY MANAGER AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG AS WELL. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

WE THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A COUPLE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, ONE OF WHICH IS SOMETIMES WHEN THE WATER GETS EXTRA HOT, IT'S BEEN WE HAVEN'T HAD AS MUCH RAIN LATELY.

IT'S BEEN HOTTER OVER THE SUMMER.

SOMETIMES THE WATER QUALITY IS STILL FINE, BUT THE TASTE AND THE ODOR ISSUES CAN START TO SPIKE UP.

THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT JUST THE GENERAL MIX OF CHEMICALS THAT WE PUT INTO THE WATER.

BUT ONE THING THAT WE ARE ALSO EXPLORING, AND I'LL JUST PUT THIS OUT THERE SO EVERYONE KNOWS IS THERE IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO TO RESET YOUR SYSTEM THAT WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO BUT CAN DO IF WE NEED TO.

AND IT'S CALLED A FREE CHLORINE BURN.

IT'S BASICALLY WHERE YOU INJECT AN EXTRA AMOUNT OF CHLORINE INTO YOUR SYSTEM AND RUN IT THROUGH AND RESET EVERYTHING.

SO WE ARE LOOKING ACTIVELY AT ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS AND OTHERS BEYOND THAT.

BUT I WANT I WANT EVERYONE WHO'S LISTENING TO KNOW THAT WE REALLY WANT YOUR FEEDBACK.

IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY CALLED US OR YOU TRIED AND YOU COULDN'T WAIT ON ON THE CALL, SEND US AN EMAIL OR CALL US AGAIN, LET US KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT BEEN IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT THE EXACT CAUSE.

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SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE STILL EXPLORING IT AND LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS, AND WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION COMING OUT ABOUT THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO IS THE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A THANK YOU, MR. BATTEN, FOR THE POSITIVES. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WAS THERE ANOTHER ONE, SIR? ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, I WANTED JUST THAT FREE CHLORINE THAT CHLORINE BURN WANTED TO IF IF THAT IS AN OPTION MOVING FORWARD, HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE AND WHAT ARE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THE ENTIRE CITY GOING THROUGH THAT OR THE ENTIRE NORTHEAST? AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND BEING CAREFUL ABOUT IS IT IS IT NEEDED? IS IT THE RIGHT TIME? IS IT THE APPROPRIATE FIX FOR THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND COMPLAINTS WE'RE GETTING? WHEN YOU DO A FREE CHLORINE BURN, ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE OVERLOADING IT WITH CHLORINE RIGHT THROUGH THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS PEOPLE WILL SMELL SMELL LIKE POOL WATER.

IT WILL SMELL A LOT MORE LIKE CHLORINE.

THE TASTE WILL BE A LOT MORE CHLORINATED.

AND IT CAN IT HAS TO GO FROM THE PLANT.

SO WE HAVE TO PLANTS ONE IN THE NORTH, ONE IN THE SOUTH.

IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANTS AND RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE CITY SO IT CAN TAKE UP TO A MONTH OR TO COMPLETELY SORT OF FINISH FILTERING THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND SETTLE BACK DOWN.

SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG STEP THAT WE DON'T WANT TO JUST RUSH INTO WITHOUT MAKING SURE IT'S THE APPROPRIATE FIX FOR THE SITUATION.

I'LL BE THAT BECAUSE THEN THERE CAN BE OTHER CONCERNS, RIGHT? I DON'T LIKE MY WATER NOW.

IT WAS OKAY BEFORE AND NOW IT'S REALLY BAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE THE ENTIRE CITY AT THAT POINT, IS THAT CORRECT? IT VERY WELL COULD. IT DEPENDS ON THE THE USES IN DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT MOST PEOPLE WOULD EXPERIENCE THAT.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE THE BRIEF, THE PUBLIC BRIEF.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ASSURE MR. REED, DO HAVE YOUR DOCUMENTS, SIR.

WE WILL LOOK AT THAT.

I'M GOING TO PASS THEM OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

SHE'LL ASSIGN IT TO SOMEONE.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD.

APPRECIATE YOU, KATY NUNEZ, FOLLOWED BY MARY MAXIMO.

I? YOU COULD RAISE THAT IF YOU LIKE MY HEIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

IS THAT LOOK GOOD? ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS KATIE NUNEZ.

I LIVE ON 738 NEEDLE AVE NORTHEAST.

MY CONCERNS TODAY ARE REGARDING THE NEW PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY SCHOOL, LOCKHART AND ITS KALOU.

MY HOME IS IN AN AREA WHERE WE ARE EXTREMELY AFFECTED BY THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE NOW OCCUPYING OUR ONCE QUIET BUT ACTIVE LOCK MEYER ESTATES COMMUNITY AND ROADS. EVEN WITH POLICE PRESENCE, SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

WITHIN THE LAST FEW DAYS OF STARTING THEIR SCHOOL, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO SEE PARENTS OF THE PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY SPEEDING DOWN MAIN ROADS OR CUTTING THROUGH SIDE ROADS THAT US REAL RESIDENTS NEED TO BE UTILIZING FOR OUR DAILY COMMUTE.

AS WE KNOW, POLICE CANNOT BE EVERYWHERE AND THEY ARE NOT TICKETING ANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS.

THEY'RE ONLY DIRECTING THEM IN AND OUT OF THE SCHOOL.

THAT'S IT. SO THEY'RE NOT SEEING IT.

WHAT'S GOING ON? ALSO, EVEN AFTER COMMUNICATING THIS WITH AN EMPLOYEE AT PINEAPPLE COVE, PARENTS HAVE CONTINUED TO PARK ON PERSONAL PROPERTY AND WAIT FOR THEIR WALKERS TO GET TO THEM. ONE WHICH BEING MY MY OWN PROPERTY, WHICH IS LIKE AROUND THE CORNER.

MOST OF THE RESIDENTS IN LAMAR ESTATES HAVE CHILDREN THAT LIKE TO PLAY OUTSIDE, AND WE CAN NO LONGER DO THAT.

IF MY CHILD HAD TO WALK OR RIDE THEIR BIKE TO OUR ZONE SCHOOL LOCK MOORE ELEMENTARY, I WOULD BE SERIOUSLY CONCERNED FOR THEIR SAFETY, HAVING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH ALL THOSE VEHICLES. I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT THEY WOULD GET HIT BY ONE OF THOSE PARENTS.

THEY DON'T APPEAR TO CARE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS LAMAR ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCKAGE FROM THIS CAR LOOP CREATED BY PINEAPPLE I'M SORRY, THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCKAGE FROM THIS CAR LOOP CREATED BY PINEAPPLE COVE CREATES AN ALMOST TWO HOUR DELAY.

I'VE SEEN UP TO 2 HOURS GOING DOWN THE LONG STRETCH OF NESBITT.

THIS MAKES IT EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE TO DRIVE ON OUR ROADS BLINDLY BECAUSE POLICE PRESENCE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AND WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO GO CUT THROUGH SOMEBODY ELSE'S QUIET ROAD.

WE HAVE TO RISK OUR SAFETY TO GO AROUND THESE VEHICLES.

THIS WEEK THERE WAS A SEMI TRUCK ON NESBITT TO GO AROUND BECAUSE THE SCHOOL STILL APPEARS INCOMPLETE.

EMERSON ROAD IS STARTING TO BECOME VERY CONGESTED AND NOW IS CAUSING OTHERS TO HAVE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH OTHER QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS TO AVOID PINEAPPLE COVE ALTOGETHER. SO NOW THIS IS ALREADY BECOME A BIG BECOMING A BIGGER ISSUE THAN JUST LAMAR ESTATES.

SO NOW ALSO BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS THAT HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN IN THE AMOUNT OF THE CURRENT CAR TRAFFIC, OUR ROADS ARE NOW REALLY DAMAGED.

MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE VERY ACTIVE AND WALK AND RIDE BIKES.

AND NOW WE HAVE DAMAGED ROADS, SAFETY CONCERNS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WAITING IN CARS TO LOOK AT.

THE MAIN CONCERN IS HOW NEGATIVELY THIS CAR LOOP IS AFFECTING THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME FORM OF SOLUTION SO THAT THE CHILDREN OF PINEAPPLE, CLOVER SAFE AND THE CHILDREN OF THE COMMUNITY OF LAMAR, THE DRIVERS AND THE RESIDENTS ARE SAFE.

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THIS AREA WAS NOT MADE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS FLOWING THROUGH.

AND WHAT IF AN EMERGENCY DOES COME ABOUT AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN'T GET DOWN THE ROADS BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY CARS IN THERE BLOCKING EVERYONE'S DRIVEWAYS? A PETITION WAS SIGNED AND PICTURES AND VIDEOS WERE SENT, MA'AM, SO THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY OK DOES JUST COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THE CAR LOOP? YES, MA'AM. YEP. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOU COULD COME BACK.

WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING AS WELL, IF YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE.

MARY MAXIMO, FOLLOWED BY TIM BLAND.

IN THIS DOWN TO, MA'AM, YOU COULD BRING IT DOWN.

I'M A LOT SHORTER THAN SHE IS.

MY NAME IS MARY MAXIMUM.

I LIVE AT 415, HURST NORTHEAST.

I'M HERE FOR THE SAME THING AS SHE WAS.

IS. THAT IT WAS POORLY PLANNED.

I MEAN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PINEAPPLE COVE MADE THIS WHOLE DECISION ON THEIR OWN.

I DON'T THINK THEY TOOK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INTO CONSIDERATION.

I MEAN, WE'RE VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.

IT'S SORRY.

WE'RE VERY ACTIVE. IT'S BARELY A TWO LANE ROAD.

IT'S NOT LAND. THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.

AND WE HAVE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE TWO MAIN STREETS, HURST AND NESBIT, AND THEN IT CURVES AROUND DOWN PINEDA.

ALL THOSE STREETS ARE BLOCKED.

SO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BACK THERE, THEY HAVE NO EASY WAY OUT.

AND SHE'S PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING ELSE I HAVE, I HAD TO SAY.

I MEAN, WE WERE WE THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO INTERJECT NOW.

I'M GOING TO HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE WE HAVE WE'VE HEARD YOU.

I'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS REGARDING THIS.

AND I KNOW STAFF HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING, AS YOU MENTIONED.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW OUR CITY MANAGER JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT AND SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, MA'AM.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, SIR.

YES. SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT AS WELL.

WE'VE HAD ACTIVE POLICE PRESENCE OUT THERE SINCE, I GUESS BASICALLY THE BEGINNING WHEN WE FIRST BECAME AWARE OF THE PROBLEM.

AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW, THE SCHOOL THAT WAS THERE BEFORE HAD APPARENTLY AN ENROLLMENT OF MAYBE IN THE 200 RANGE AND THE NEW ENROLLMENT IS SOMEWHERE UNDER 600.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, 506 HUNDRED.

SO DEFINITELY A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION.

WE CERTAINLY ARE RELOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN THE BUILD FOR THE FOR THE PROJECT BECAUSE AS PART OF THAT, THEY HAD TO SUBMIT TRAFFIC PLANS.

AND WE'RE CHECKING THAT AND HAVING ACTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE SCHOOL BECAUSE IT DOES NEED TO IMPROVE DRASTICALLY FOR THE RESIDENTS.

WE HAVE WE HAVE HEARD YOU WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF CALLS AND EMAILS AND ACTUALLY HAD MY CITY ENGINEER OUT THERE YESTERDAY AND TODAY WATCHING THE ENTIRE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, THE WHOLE THE WHOLE TIME, MORNING AND AFTERNOON.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SOLVED THE PROBLEM YET.

FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE THIS MORNING THE ENTIRE LOOP OF 260 PLUS CARS THAT WAS OUT THERE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CYCLED THROUGH IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES, WHICH IS A LOT BETTER THAN IT HAD BEEN. SO WE'VE WE'VE WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES, BUT WE'RE NOT DONE YET.

SO IF YOU'D BE PATIENT WITH A LITTLE BIT LONGER, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS.

WE KNOW WE HEARD THAT SOME OF YOU HAD ISSUES WITH THE MAIL BEING DELIVERED AND THE TRASH BEING PICKED UP.

SO WE WILL BE ACTIVELY WORKING ON A SOLUTION WITH THE SCHOOL.

WE HAVE A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK MIGHT HELP, BUT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THOSE YET UNTIL WE'VE GOT SOME DEALS LOCKED DOWN ON IT, BUT KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO US TO AND WE WILL WORK HARD TO GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT FOR YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. TIM BLAND, FOLLOW UP AS FLORIDA.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE COUNCIL HERE AND ALL THE STAFF.

FORGOT ALL MY NOTES, BUT I DO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

TIM BLAND, 1992.

WIND BROOK DRIVE, PALM BAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY FIRST, I WANT TO START OFF WITH PALM BAY IS THE LARGEST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY IN POPULATION AND SQUARE MILES BY A LOT.

BY A LOT.

I HEARD ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

SO THE PARKS AND REC HERE IN PALM BAY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR SOME OF THE OLDER GENERATION THAT COME TO FLORIDA, RIGHT? GOLF, PICKLEBALL, SHUFFLEBOARD, SOME OF THAT STUFF.

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WE HAVE ZERO GOLF COURSES, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT GONE.

IT'S STILL THERE.

ARNOLD PALMER DESIGNED THAT WHOLE GOLF COURSE.

HE DESIGNED ALL 18 HOLES IN THE DRIVING RANGE.

NOW, THREE HOLES HAVE BEEN CHANGED OVER TIME DUE TO REZONING.

BUT THE TEE BOXES ARE THERE, THE FAIRWAYS ARE THERE, THE BUNKERS ARE THERE, THE GREENS ARE THERE.

IT'S STILL A GOLF COURSE.

IT JUST NEEDS MAINTENANCE.

SO WE NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY, THE CITY AND INVESTOR AND INVESTOR GROUP TO TAKE OVER THE GOLF COURSE.

SO AT LEAST PALM BAY HAS ONE GOLF COURSE.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I PLAY AT HABITAT, GRANT VALKYRIE.

HOW BIG A TOWN IS THAT? THEY HAVE A GOLF COURSE.

SEBASTIAN. HOW BIG A TOWN IS THAT? THEY HAVE A GOLF COURSE.

WE CAN'T LET THE PARKS AND RACKS IN PALM BAY, THE LARGEST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY, NOT HAVE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYBODY.

YOUNG, MIDDLE AGED AND OLD, LIKE ME.

RIGHT. SO I BEG YOU, I BEG YOU, DON'T ALLOW ANY REZONING.

I'D RATHER SIT IN MY LANAI NEXT TO MY POOL, LOOKING AT ONE HOUSE ON FIVE ACRES WITH HORSES, COWS AND PIGS, THAN I WOULD RATHER SEE 367 HOMES SITTING THERE.

ALONG WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO THE HORSES.

THE COWS AND PIGS AREN'T GOING TO DRIVE CARS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO PUBLIX.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CROWD OUR SCHOOLS.

JUST THIS EVENING BEFORE COMING HERE, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS IS TEACHER AT BAYSIDE LAKES HIGH.

SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY ARE UNDERSTAFFED AND THEY HAVE MORE STUDENTS THAN THAT BUILDING CAN HANDLE.

NOW I'LL LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING, OCTOBER 25TH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. FLORIDA.

MISS. FLORIDA. FOLLOWED BY A IN.

GOOD EVENING. AND I THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS FLORIDA HOLBERT.

MY ADDRESS IS TWO, THREE, TWO, TWO.

PLANTAR REACH COURT, SOUTHEAST AND PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

I'D LIKE TO. THE REASON I'M HERE IS TO RESPOND TO A QUESTION THAT WAS DROPPED ON US AT THE MEETING ON THE 4TH OF AUGUST AND ALSO A COMPLAINT THAT CAME AFTER THAT QUESTION, WHICH ALL OF THAT CAME RIGHT AFTER THE PRAYER. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND PASTOR DELGADO'S.

IT'S LIKE DEVOTION.

MY RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS GIVEN.

THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT HAPPENED? WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? MY RESPONSE TO THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE AND NOT IN WHAT WAS STATED.

A STATE RUN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING CALLED SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, IT MEANS FOR THE STATE NOT TO DICTATE TO THE CHURCH WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO, AND THAT THE CHURCH SHOULD NOT LEAVE THE STATE OUT OF PRAYER AND WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SEE US ADVANCE.

THE OTHER STATEMENT WAS, I GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY.

I DON'T COME HERE TO LISTEN TO RELIGION.

GOD IS NOT A RELIGION.

HE IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS, AND HE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

IF WITHOUT HIS INCLUSION IN IT, I THINK WE WOULD BE IN BIG TIME TROUBLE.

THE OTHER. I JUST FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT IS MAINLY WHAT I WAS HERE FOR, JUST TO MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CHURCH SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES.

IT IS A COMMUNIST STATEMENT WHICH WE DO NOT ADHERE TO.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS, A FEW MONTHS AGO I ASKED ABOUT THE FLAGPOLE AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO OWNED A FLAGPOLE.

AND YOU MADE A REQUEST FOR.

CITY MANAGER SHERMAN TO FIND OUT WHO OWNED IT.

WAS THAT DONE? BECAUSE IT STILL HAS NO FLAGPOLE.

IT HAS NO FLAG.

YES. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, BUT IT IS A TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANY AND APPARENTLY THEY'RE DOING WORK ON THE POLE.

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SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE NOT PUT A FLAG BACK UP.

BUT THEY DO INTEND TO PUT ONE BACK UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE.

THANK YOU. IT'S THE BUTCHER IN.

EXCUSE ME, BUT YOU RAN TO 19 TRENT AVENUE FIRST THING.

CAN YOU GUYS GET A SPEAKER INSTALLED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING? SO WHEN THE OVERFLOW, WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE WAITING TO GET IN, THEY CAN HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON, BE A BIG HELP OUT THERE.

YOU'VE GOT THEM ON THE WEST SIDE.

ON THE NORTH SIDE. IS THERE A WEIGHT LIMITATION ON VEHICLES FOR THE CITY STREETS OF PALM BAY? THE REASON I'M ASKING HAD A LOT CLEARED DOWN THE ROAD FROM MY HOUSE, ABOUT A 30 FOOT TRACTOR TRAILER.

THEY'RE PUTTING DIRT, THEY'RE PUT IN TREES AND THEY'RE POUNDING IT IN THERE.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE GROSS WEIGHT WOULD BE, BUT A TRUCKLOAD OF DIRT, A TRUCKLOAD OF TREES, I'M GOING TO GUESS SOMEWHERE AROUND 70 TO £80000.

DON'T GUESS. THE OTHER THING IS.

I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND VOTE ALL REGISTERED VOTERS TO COME OUT AND VOTE.

NOT EVERYBODY, IF YOU'RE REGISTERED, COME OUT AND VOTE.

GET ANOTHER ONE DOWN HERE. OH, PERFECT EXAMPLE OF MAINTAINING ORDER IN A COUNCIL MEETING.

ONE OF THE CITIZENS HAD TO BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION TO THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THE FOLKS GET QUIET.

THAT'S SOMEBODY'S JOB UP THERE TO MAINTAIN ORDER.

IT'S MY JOB, BUTCH. AND GET THE HAMMER OUT, BROTHER.

THE OTHER THING AND I KNOW THIS ONE IS NOT GOING TO GO WELL WITH YOU EITHER, MAYOR, BUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER OPENING YOUR HONOR FLAGS TO CITIZENS? THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIZENS WITHIN THE CITY.

THAT WOULD BE HONORED.

TO HAVE A FLAG PRESENTED TO THEM FOR THEIR WORK THAT THEY DO WITHIN THE CITY.

NOT NECESSARILY EMPLOYEE, JUST AN AVERAGE CITIZEN.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT.

OH, AND THE WATER THING I'M ON.

WELL, WATER. AND MY WATER WAS STARTING TO GET KIND OF FUNKY, TOO, SO I CALLED THE GUYS OUT.

THEY FLUSH THE SYSTEM, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

THEY'RE TELLING ME THAT BECAUSE THE WATER TABLE IS DOWN, THE WELLS ARE SUCKING FROM THE BOTTOM.

AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE SEDIMENT AND THE THE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CHEMICAL WAS, BUT IT'S THE ONE THAT CAUSES ALL THE RUST STAINS.

SO THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CITY.

WELL, TOO. THANK YOU, NATHAN WHITE.

NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THE FULL 3 MINUTES.

AND I JUST I SHOULD START BY SAYING, I KNOW I COME UP HERE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU GUYS A LOT, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE IN THAT, BUT I'M NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

I MIGHT LATER. WE'LL SEE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH MY NEIGHBOR, FLORIDA, AND I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO TALK TO A COUPLE OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

SO I WANTED TO JUST TAKE THE MOMENT NOW WHILE I COULD AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ALL OF YOU ARE INVITED TO A FREE FOR THE CANDIDATES EVENT THIS SATURDAY AT CHURCH ON THE ROCK ON BABCOCK STREET.

THE NAME IS KIND OF FOR THE SAKE OF CATCHINESS, BUT THE SUBTITLE WE'RE PRAYING FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CANDIDATES IN BREVARD COUNTY, WHETHER THEY ATTEND OR NOT LIST WILL BE PROVIDED TO EVERYBODY AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOR ANYONE OR TRYING TO ELEVATE ANYONE OVER.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PRAYING FOR ANYBODY TO WIN OR LOSE OR EVEN OVER SPECIFIC ISSUES.

THE INTENTION IS TO PRAY FOR THE HEALTH, SAFETY PROTECTION AND FOR GOD'S GUIDANCE FOR ALL CANDIDATES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS WITHIN THE COUNTY. AGAIN, NOT AN EVENT FOR OR AGAINST ANYBODY.

NO CAMPAIGN MATERIAL OF ANY KIND WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING, IN FACT, OR OUTSIDE.

IT IS INTENDED SOLELY TO BE A FULFILLMENT, AN ATTEMPT TO FULFILL THE CALL IN FIRST, TIMOTHY, TO PRAY FIRST FOR ALL PEOPLE AND ASK GOD TO HELP, HELP THEM AND INTERCEDE ON THEIR BEHALF.

PRAY THIS WAY FOR KINGS AND ALL WHO ARE IN AUTHORITY SO THAT WE CAN LIVE PEACEFULLY AND QUIET LIVES MARKED BY GODLINESS AND DIGNITY.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WHEN I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE HOSTILE ON THIS MICROPHONE, BUT I HOPE THAT IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT WE

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THIS SATURDAY, IT'S 6:30 P.M.

ON BABCOCK STREET CHURCH ON THE ROCK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, MR. WHITE. I'VE GOT THREE EVENTS THAT DAY.

I JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD.

AND SO. NEED ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS.

SO, MADAM MADAM SHERMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO BRING UP OUR CITY ENGINEER, BUT WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WEIGHT CAPACITY ON OUR ROADS.

IS THAT PROBABLY DONE BY THE STATE BECAUSE WE HAD A CITIZEN.

OF THAT QUESTION? YES, SIR. I ACTUALLY DID LOOK UP OUR ORDINANCE TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS.

AND IT SAYS IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO OPERATE MOTOR VEHICLE HAVING A GROSS VEHICULAR WEIGHT READING EXCEEDING £20,000 ON ANY OF THE ROADS, STREETS OR ALLEYS IN THE CITY EXCEPT I-95 AND US HIGHWAY ONE.

AND IT GOES ON A LITTLE BIT.

AND WHO WOULD ENFORCE THAT? OUR APD? THAT IS CORRECT. AND DO WE HAVE A GAUGE OF HOW WE WOULD HOW WOULD THEY WEIGH THE TRUCK? HOW WOULD WE MEASURE THEM AND SAY THAT? I KNOW THAT ANSWER, SIR, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER OFFHAND.

I'M SURE THEY HAVE METHODS AND MEANS TO FIGURE THINGS OUT, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE THE RESIDENTS AND TALK THROUGH THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.

YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO.

WE LIFT IT UP AND FIGURE THAT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A TOOL.

IT'S ALL I'M GOING.

I'M GOING TO SAY SO.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

LET ME ANSWER THE OTHER COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR.

SO ANYWAY, THAT.

THAT'S IT. WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT, SIR.

YOU MAY ANSWER THE OTHER ONES REAL QUICKLY.

YES, MA'AM. SO THE REGARDING THE SPEAKER SYSTEM, WE ARE UNDERGOING AN AUDIO SYSTEM UPGRADE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND THAT IS PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

AND THAT PROJECT JUST RECENTLY STARTED.

SO WE'LL SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS SOON.

AND THEN ALSO THE QUESTION RELATED TO THE FLAG PROGRAM.

WE DID INCLUDE IN OUR CRITERIA THE POLICY RELATED TO THE FLAG PROGRAM THAT THOSE WHO COULD BE HONORED IN ADDITION TO FIRST RESPONDERS, MILITARY PERSONNEL OR VETERANS, OR THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED AND LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT WOULD BE AN ELIGIBLE CATEGORY AS WELL.

I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS, SIR.

SAM. AND SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

ORDINANCE 2022 DAS 80 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MAKING AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY KNOWN AS KINNEY AVENUE, NORTHEAST LINE BETWEEN ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AND THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY, AS RECORDED IN PLAQUE TO PAGE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

VERY WELL CAMOUFLAGED, SIR.

IT WAS. YOU MUST START TO SEE ME COME IN AND GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ROW.

BRUCE MOYA WITH MBIE ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR THIS ITEM AND THE FOLLOWING ITEM.

THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS AT THE FIRST READING, SO TO SAVE TIME, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THE STAFF COMMENTS AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? MADAM SHERMAN. ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. ANYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

MOST OF THE VOTE IS 2022.

DASH EIGHT. FINAL READING.

SECOND. AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

I UNANIMOUS.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I DIDN'T GET YOUR EYE OR ANY DISCUSSION.

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER ASSIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH.

TELL THE TRUTH. ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS IN A COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

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FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY AND WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR MAXIMUM 15 MINUTES.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR MAXIMUM 10 MINUTES.

QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PRECEDING HEARING LIMIT.

CLOSE AND ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AND THE DELIBERATION COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

ORDINANCE 2022.

THAT'S 82.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM B MOVIE BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT TO B IMU A FRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT.

HIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL, THE VICINITY WEST OF HIGHWAY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

BECAUSE THANK YOU, MARY BRUCE MOIR AGAIN WITH MBP ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

THERE WERE NO STAFF CONDITIONS ON THIS.

THIS AGAIN IS THE SECOND READING.

THERE WAS NO QUESTIONS AT THE FIRST READING.

SO I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MOYA COUNSEL.

MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR FOR MR. MOYA. FIRST, YOU DO PLAN ON BUILDING THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL AT THE SAME TIME.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.

I WAS DRIVING THIS AREA THE OTHER DAY AND THERE'S BEEN A BLINKING LIGHT ON ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AND US ONE FOR THE LONGEST.

AND SO NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO BUILD OUT BASICALLY WHAT'S CALLED MOST OF ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.

KIRKLAND AVENUE ACROSS THE STREET IS PROBABLY ABOUT 75% BUILT OUT BESIDES THE MCKINLEY PROPERTY.

SO IF YOU PLAN ON DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY, MAYBE I SHOULD ASK THE CITY ENGINEER THIS.

BUT IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR A LIGHT ON US? ONE IN ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.

THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

GOING TO THE GAS STATION NUMBER MOBILE ONE, OR EVEN TO VISIT OUR PARK AT CASTAWAY POINT PARK, WHICH MIGHT BE A NICE AMENITY FOR YOUR.

YEAH. SO, SO ON TRAFFIC STUDIES, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WILL ADDRESS EVERY INTERSECTION WITHIN THE AREA OF STUDY AND THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE IN THAT AREA OF STUDY. NOW, I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO GET A LIGHT AT AN INTERSECTION, ESPECIALLY ON A STATE ROAD, YOU HAVE TO GET A WARRANT STUDY.

AND UNTIL YOU MEET THE WARRANT, YOU CAN'T GET A SIGNAL.

SO IF THIS IF THE IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WARRANTS A SIGNAL, THEN THE SIGNAL WILL BE DONE.

BUT THAT STUDY WILL HAVE TO BE PROVIDED TO YOUR STAFF AND AGREED TO BY THE STATE DOT.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT STAFF ON NOTICE FOR THAT.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, MS..

SHERMAN FOLLOWING UP ON THAT AND THANK YOU, MR. MOYE, FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU. YOU, I THINK.

I THINK MR. MOIR ALREADY KNOWS THAT WITH EMU, THE COMMERCIAL IS TO BE DEVELOPED SIMULTANEOUSLY.

COPY THAT, SIR. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR AND SPEAKER.

RIGHT. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 82 FINAL READING.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION? MR. FOSTER. NO.

I HAVE NO. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR.

HI. HI. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

AUDIENCE 2022.

THAT'S 83.

AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, EMITTING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS.

BY REMOVING THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT FOR PERMITTED USES ON PARCELS OF TEN OR MORE ACRES WITHIN BERMUDA, BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT ZONING PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR OR MS..

SHERMAN, AS YOU WERE.

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THIS IS THE FINAL READING FOR THE CHANGE TO REMOVE THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT FOR PERMITTED USES ON PARCELS OF TEN OR MORE ACRES WITHIN THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT ZONING. IT WAS APPROVED AT THE FIRST READING LAST MEETING.

AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN FOSTER? WELL, NO QUESTION. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

AUSTIN APPROVED ORDINANCE 2020 283 FINAL READING.

A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 84.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 169 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

MODIFYING THE APPLICABILITY PROVISIONS FOR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLANS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF AUTOPSIES.

PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TO PRESENT IT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE FINAL READING FOR THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.

THIS IS GOING TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT FOR ALL.

WHETHER IT'S REZONING OF SOME SMALL PARCELS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SMALL BEFORE IT WAS JUST FOR PODS AND OTHER PROJECTS.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO THAT WAY THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CITIZENS AND THOSE LOOKING TO DEVELOP IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAPPENS PRIOR TO A PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING SO MORE THINGS CAN GET IRONED OUT INSTEAD OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION HERE TRYING TO IRON THINGS OUT, WHICH CAN BE PRETTY, PRETTY DIFFICULT.

YOU KNOW, MR. OLSZEWSKI KNOWS.

SO. TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE WORK BETTER AND WORK SMARTER AND NOT HARDER.

BUT WE STILL WANT TO WORK HARDER.

BUT LET'S WORK SMARTER, TOO.

SO THAT'S ALL.

KNOW THIS IS GREAT WITH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

RIGHT? AT LEAST THE RESIDENTS WILL BE DISCUSSING ANY.

ANY FUTURE PROJECTS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO. YES, SIR.

ANY. ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOT SO MUCH, MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, GREAT ORDINANCE, GREAT EFFORT ON ALL SIDE TO TO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

JUST I GIVE AGAIN, AS DEPUTY MAYOR SAID, THAT GIVE THE CITIZEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

AND PERFECT EXAMPLE WAS THE PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET FROM PALM BAY ROAD.

AND THAT GAVE BECAUSE OF THE SCALE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, THE CITIZEN FELT AS IF THEY'VE SEEN PEOPLE SHOWING UP, SURVEYORS DOING THIS AND THAT. AND TO THEIR THEIR INTERPRETATION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THE CITY OR UNELECTED OFFICIALS ALLOWING THESE THINGS HAPPENING WITHOUT THEM BEING PART? I WOULD SAY I THINK THIS WOULD PREVENT ANY SCALE, ANY SIZE OF THE PROJECT WOULD GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO HAVE A DIALOG TO START PRIOR COME BEFORE US.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

NO COMMENT. JUST JUST ONE COMMENT.

I THINK THAT DEPUTY MAYOR TO BRING THIS FOR IS GOING TO BE A WIN WIN FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

AND THAT'S ALL I THINKING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED IN ITS 2022 DASH 84 FINAL READING SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

ORDINANCE 2022.

THAT'S 85.

AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

CHAPTER 169 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SUBCHAPTER GREEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM A REPEALING THE SUBCHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDED FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDNANCES PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND AGAIN, DEPUTY MAYOR.

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JUST REPEALING, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, REPEALING PARTS.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN ADD THE LANGUAGE FOR THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

IN THE NEXT HEARING ITEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? AND ALSO. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC HERE.

OH. I DIDN'T SEE, SIR.

COME ON. TRY TO GET HIM IN EARLIER.

NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'M COMING UP TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS ITEM, BUT MOSTLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWING ITEM, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY INTERCONNECTED.

AND IT WOULD BE SILLY TO WAIT UNTIL THEN, BUT THE VERY END OF THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE BEING ADDED HERE UNDER SUBSECTION FOUR, AT THE END THERE, THE DEVELOPERS HERE ADHERE TO THE LID DESIGNS AND THE STANDARDS AS CONTAINED, ETC.

MAY BE ENTITLED BASICALLY AS AN INCENTIVE TO A DENSITY OR INTENSITY BONUS MORE FLOOR SPACE THAN ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT OR PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OR ZONING.

GREATER HEIGHT A REDUCTION IN FEES CREDITS.

OR GRANTING OF OTHER INCENTIVES AS AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL.

THAT IS A VERBAL BLANK.

CHECK THAT.

I I'M TRYING TO BE ON THIS COUNCIL.

I DON'T WANT THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT POWER.

EVEN IF I WIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO AT THE END.

WELL, IT SAYS GRANTING OF OTHER INCENTIVES AS AUTHORIZED.

SO IF WE DECIDE ON ANY INCENTIVE, WE CAN DO IT.

THAT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE POWER AND IT IS RIPE FOR MISUSE AND ABUSE.

IF THIS IS TO GO FORWARD.

THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE.

UNLESS CONSOLIDATION OF POWER IS REALLY THE POINT, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT IS IN THIS CASE.

SO THIS THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE WORDING.

I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME.

THIS CAME UP THE SECOND READING, BUT IT'S STILL HERE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A BLANK CHECK OF POWER LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THEN.

THANK I. NO, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MARY, BECAUSE I ANSWERED IT LAST TIME, TOO.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MR. BATTEN.

IT'S NOT A BLANK CHECK.

IT'S GIVING COUNCIL DISCRETION.

JUST LIKE WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

THIS COUNCIL, AND WE HEARD IT FROM A RESIDENT, HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB SHOWING DISCRETION ON PROJECTS AND THINGS COMING FORWARD.

THERE'S THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, AN APPLICANT MIGHT COME BEFORE US AND WE MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT FOR A SIX FOOT FENCE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR COUNCIL HAS THE POWER TO DO SO.

OR EIGHT FOOT.

WE'VE WE'VE WENT FROM SIX FEET TO EIGHT FOOT.

SO THIS COUNCIL'S DONE A GREAT JOB SHOWING DISCRETION.

AND IT'S NOT A BLANK CHECK.

THIS. RIGHT NOW, THE STATE DOESN'T MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT.

WE'RE DOING THIS AS A VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE PROGRAM, SEEING HOW IT GOES WHILE WE'RE FINALIZING A FEW THINGS.

AND GOING FORWARD, IF IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE RIGHT DIRECTION IS TO MAKE IT MANDATORY, WE'LL DO IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SLOW ROLLING IT AND GETTING SOMETHING DONE IN REGARDS TO PROTECTING THE GREEN SPACE AND PALM BAY.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? I WOULD JUST ACTUALLY ADD TO WHAT DEPUTY MAYOR SAID TO TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE THING THAT WILL FOLLOW THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS A ACTUAL UPDATE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL. WE'RE CREATING A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL, BUT THERE WILL BE VERY SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OF TYPES OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE UNDER LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND VERY SPECIFIC TYPES OF INCENTIVES OR INDUCEMENTS, RATHER, CHANGES TO YOUR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW NORMALLY TO INCENTIVIZE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE DOING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT DESIGN.

SO A VERY SMALL EXAMPLE MIGHT BE THAT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IF YOU TAKE CERTAIN STEPS, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET MORE PARKING SPACES BECAUSE YOU'VE USED A CERTAIN TYPE OF PAVEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE. SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

BUT MORE IS COMING SO THAT THERE WILL NOT BE JUST IT WILL BE MORE DEFINED AND IT WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO BE MORE EASILY APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

IN NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVAL AND ITS 2022 DASH 85 FINAL READING SECOND AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL START WITH YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, WE START WRITING CHECKS A LONG TIME AGO.

I HAVEN'T SEEN A BLANK CHECK SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL OR COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS.

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AND I DON'T THINK MY COLLEAGUES OR ME WOULD GIVE ANYBODY A BLANK CHECK.

SO IT'S A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.

IT'S A GOOD INCENTIVE PROGRAM, AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE AT THE END OF APPROVING.

LET'S GO OUT OF THE CITY COFFERS.

IF I WRONG, PLEASE, SOMEBODY ENLIGHTEN ME THAT THAT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY.

SO SOMEBODY TELLING ME THAT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY, BUT FOR WHAT I FIND, THAT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY.

HOW WE SPEND CITY TAX DOLLARS.

AND I THINK WE DO IT WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF PALM BAY WE DO AUTHORIZE MONIES TO BE SPENT.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM.

I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO CLEAR THE AIR THAT COUNCIL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SPENDING THE MONEY.

MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND MAKE A BETTER COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL WISH TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? SO I'LL JUST I'LL END WITH THIS.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

YOU KNOW, PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF OF THIS COUNCIL IS TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

AND THIS IS ALL PART OF THAT, REDUCING OUR SURFACE WATER.

SO OUR SURFACE WATER RUNOFF.

THIS IS ALL PART OF THAT EQUATION.

YES. ARE WE TAKING STEPS? YES, WE ARE.

AND THEN YOU CAN'T RESTRICT ANYTHING AT THIS POINT UNTIL THE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ARE ENSUING.

I DID MENTION AT THE LAST MEETING THAT OUR MAYORS BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE IS TOMORROW.

AND SO PART OF THE DISCUSSION WILL BE WITH OUR SOME OF THE BUSINESS PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, SOME OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS ALONG WITH SOME SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPERS AS WELL.

SO I THINK THAT'S ALL PART OF THE EQUATION AND THEN MOVING FORWARD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO END WITH THOSE COMMENTS AND I'M CALLING FOR A VOTE.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. I HATE ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

AUDIENCE 2020 286 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THE MEETING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

CHAPTER 174 FLOODPLAIN AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SUBCHAPTER.

STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND CONSERVATION PART TWO DRAINAGE PLAN BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SAME THING AS BEFORE.

BUT YOU KNOW, THIS THIS PROGRAM IS TO HELP IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT, MAKING SURE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NONE TO MINIMUM RUN OFF INTO THE TURKEY CREEK INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. COME ON. TO PROTECT WHAT WE DO HAVE.

SO I SEE IT AS A LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

ARE WE STILL MAKING MORE STEPS TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION? YES, WE'VE DONE SO, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, WITH THE BAFFLE BOXES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THE STATE HAS HELPED US WITH.

WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO AT THE CITY LEVEL AS WELL.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT HERE.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? AND THEN ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO STEP FORWARD.

MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. I'VE GOT THREE, MAYBE FOUR ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS, IS THIS GOING TO COME INTO ANY PLAY FOR THE LEAD? IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM FOR THE CITY'S ESG SCORE.

JUST CURIOUS, I'M STARTING TO BECOME A DOUBTING TOM, SO I WANT TO FIND OUT IF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO TOWARDS THE CITY'S ESG SCORE.

THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

QUESTION NUMBER TWO.

HAVE ANY OF YOU READ THE MANUAL YET THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE VOTING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW? HAS ANY BUT JUST A SHOW OF HANDS? IS ANYBODY UP THERE READ THE MANUAL YET? SO YOU HAVE SEEN THE MANUAL.

SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SEEN THE MANUAL.

I HAVE YET TO SEE THIS MANUAL AND I'M TRYING TO TALK ON IT.

SO I'M SURE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT INFORMATION OUT.

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SO NOW THERE'S SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO GET TO SEE THIS INFORMATION THAT I'VE BEEN REQUESTING THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE.

IT'LL BE AT THE MAYOR'S ROUNDTABLE, SO READS ANOTHER QUESTION.

HOW DID YOU GET ON TO BE INVITED TO THE MAYOR'S ROUNDTABLE? ALL RIGHT. THOSE ARE TWO OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I TRIED TO FIND OUT THIS WEEK.

AND I WAS JUST TOLD THAT IT WAS IN MY EMAIL.

BUT I'M I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

THAT'S ON ME. MY BAD.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I MEAN, ITEM NUMBER THREE, MY BED.

WHEREAS I HEAR THE COUNCIL SAYING WE MAKE GOOD CHOICES, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD TRACK RECORD ON HOW WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT AND SO FORTH.

BUT THEY SAY AND I HAVE ALSO HEARD THIS COUNCIL SAY, YEAH, BUT THAT WAS THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTED THAT WAY.

SO REMEMBER, YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE SITTING UP THERE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A STATEMENT LIKE YOU HAVE IN THIS PACKET, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER IS GOING TO BE. THEY MIGHT BE AS CROOKED AS SIN AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, LOOK, I'M GOING TO HELP MY BUDDY JOE OVER HERE.

HE'S A DEVELOPER AND HE GETS THIS BECAUSE HE MADE A BIGGER POND IN THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE ON HOW IT'S GOING TO BE.

BUT YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCES TO OTHER MANUALS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

ONE MORE TIME. YOU'RE VOTING FOR SOMETHING.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING IN FAVOR OF.

CASE IN POINT.

AND YOU SAY THE COUNCIL DOESN'T MAKE THOSE BAD CHOICES.

HOW MUCH RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND IS STILL ON GAYNOR ROAD? HOW MUCH OF IT? THIS IS 100% WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT.

AND I'LL TELL YOU 100% LESS.

THE PERCENTAGE THAT BILL BATTON OWNS IS NOW GONE.

AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT.

BUT NOW YOU'RE VOTING ON PASSING SOMETHING, BUT YOU'RE USING THAT AS YOUR CRITERIA WHILE YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THAT GREEN SPACE BILL. I THINK YOU'RE WRONG.

DON'T VOTE UNTIL YOU SEE IT IN WRITING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM. MADAM SHERMAN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO LET ME UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT.

THE ESG SCORE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY IS ACTIVELY TRACKING.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.

THIS COMES FROM A PLACE, THIS THIS EFFORT TO INSTITUTE A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.

AND ULTIMATELY, THE MANUAL COMES FROM A PLACE OF JUST OVERALL TRYING TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE THAT WE CARE ABOUT IN THE CITY, WHICH IS THE GREEN SPACE, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE INDEED TAKING CARE OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, WHILE BALANCING OUT THE ONGOING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING AND NOT IMPEDING PEOPLE DOING CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

THAT IS ACTUALLY THE REASON WHY IT IS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ADD ANY FINANCIAL INCENTIVES.

RATHER, WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CALL THE INDUCEMENTS, WHICH ARE EFFORTS TO JUST FIND A WAY TO NEGOTIATE AND MEET IN THE MIDDLE, TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS THROUGH THE STRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN PLACE.

WHEN THEY MAKE A CHOICE, A BETTER CHOICE TO INSTALL SOMETHING THAT CLEANS THE WATER, FILTERS THE WATER, OR MAINTAINS THE STORMWATER ON THEIR SITE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

THIS ORDINANCE CREATES THE STRUCTURE THAT THE MANUAL HAS TO FOLLOW BEHIND.

YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND YOU A DRAFT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ONE OUT THERE.

WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, THOUGH, IS SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY ANY CRITERIA THAT WE ESTABLISH.

SO IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET THE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND THEN TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AND THEN BRING BACK TO COUNCIL OUR IDEAS.

DOES IT MEAN THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ADOPTED AS IT COMES THE FIRST TIME, EITHER BECAUSE IT WILL JUST BE A FRAMEWORK.

IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT VERY WELL COULD EVOLVE OVER TIME AS NEW NEW DESIGN STANDARDS EMERGE, AS NEW WAYS COME FORTH TO DEVELOP A SITE THAT WE DON'T KNOW TODAY BUT COULD BE HERE TOMORROW IS SOMETHING THAT'S MEANT TO BE ADAPTABLE AND EVER CHANGING AND WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

SO ALL THAT WILL BE DONE VERY PUBLICLY AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD.

SO I WANTED TO ADD THE THE MAYOR'S ROUNDTABLE.

THE CONCEPT BEHIND THAT ROUNDTABLE IS WE WHEN WE FIRST TOOK OFFICE, THERE WAS A AND I'M SAYING THAT THE THREE OF US JUST TWO YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A DISCONNECT WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WITH CITY STAFF.

SO WE DID THAT TO OPEN UP A DIALOG AND NOW WE HAVE A DIALOG.

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IT IS BY INVITATION ONLY, EXCUSE ME AND IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN OPENING UP THAT DIALOG WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND HOW WE CONDUCT BUSINESS, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, BRINGING OUR COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE.

AND SO IT IS STRICTLY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

THOSE ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE INVITED.

THIS TIME WE WE'VE INCREASED IT A LITTLE MORE AND IT IS ALL BASED SOLELY ON THE DIALOG OF HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S THE PREMISE OF THE MAYOR'S ROUNDTABLE.

DEPUTY MAYOR AND NOTHING ELSE REALLY TO ADD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T THE MANUAL THAT WE'RE APPROVING RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THIS ISN'T THE MANUAL THAT WE YOU KNOW, WE STATED IT DURING THE FIRST MEETING AS WELL, THE FIRST READING, BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE DRAFT PHASE OF THE MANUAL AND THAT'S GOING TO COME.

AND THEN IF WE DO NEED TO REVISE IT, WE'LL REVISE IT.

BUT YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE IT JUST LIKE WE WILL.

SO BUT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TONIGHT.

SO ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORTH AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME. CLOSING THE HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION OR MOTION PROOF ORDINANCE.

2022. 86.

FINAL READING SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SAVED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF I MAY? YES, SIR. THINKS CERTAIN THINGS IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY WHEN WHEN COMMENTS LAP IS BEING PUSHED THROUGH AT THE THE PODIUM THAT YOU KNOW THIS COUNCIL IS MAKING DECISION THAT MAYBE IMPACT THE.

US RESIDENTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

QUITE A FEW NARRATIVES ARE BEING PUSHED, BUT PEOPLE AT HOME NOT NOT QUITE INVOLVED, THEY MAY NOT QUITE GET THE MESSAGE.

NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO SAY THIS.

EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO STEP UP TO THE MIC AND SPEAK SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER AND ADDRESS US IF WE'RE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING.

IF YOU THINK THE DECISION WAS NOT BEING MADE, IT'S NOT ACCORDING TO THE CONFIDENCE YOU PUT YOUR PLACE IN US WHEN YOU VOTED FOR US.

YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE THAT.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK STRAIGHT TO US.

AND SECONDLY, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE BALLOT BOX.

EVERY 2 TO 4 YEARS AND SEND US A MESSAGE THAT WAY AS WELL.

I THINK EVERY ONE OF US TAKE THE VOW TO TO TO UPHOLD, TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

AND SOME OF THE NARRATIVE THAT'S BEING PUSHED THROUGH.

I THINK FOR SOMEBODY THAT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THIS COUNCIL BEING ETHICALLY SERVING THIS, I MEAN, AT LEAST I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

WE DO EVERYTHING THAT.

THE CONFIDENCE THAT WAS PLACED IN US.

WE'VE BEEN UPHOLDING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US.

ONE OF THEM. SO I THINK IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB IN WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT, WHAT WE JUST VOTED ON.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, AS IT'S BEEN CLEARLY STATED.

I JUST WANTED I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE HERE THAT'S NOT SO INVOLVED.

UNDERSTAND, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS OF THE LIVING CONDITIONS OF THE CITIZENS OF BOMBAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THE LAST TWO ORDINANCE WE PASSED WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR BROUGHT UP.

I THINK IT GIVES A PUTS A VALUE TO GOING TO THE MAYOR ROUNDTABLE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PUSHED WHEN WE FIRST RAN THIS COUNCIL THAT STARTED WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND IS LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, IT'S SEEN SOME SUCCESS. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL AND NOT ONLY FOR THAT ROUNDTABLE, BUT TO LEAD US IN A BETTER DIRECTION AND A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PALM BAY, RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

AND SOMETIMES THE SPEAKERS FORGET EVERYBODY ON THAT.

DICE LIVES IN PALM BAY.

SO WE HAVE A VETERANS INTEREST IN WHAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

I'M CALLING TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT.

[CONSENT AGENDA:]

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WHICH ONES? NUMBER FOUR.

NUMBER FOUR.

ITEM FOR ANYONE ELSE.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION TO MAKE.

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEMS FOUR, EIGHT AND TEN.

ALL IN FAVOR AS YOU WERE.

GOT A MOTION, I THOUGHT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING TO MY COUNCILMAN, FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 2022.

THAT'S 88.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BORS SUBCHAPTER UTILITIES ADVISORY BOARD OR REPEALING A SUBCHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDNANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE'RE GOING TO.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[4. Contract: Reverse Osmosis Rehabilitation Engineering, North Regional Water Treatment Plant - TO 01-2019-006 - Utilities Department (Tetra Tech - $1,082,429); appropriation of funds ($108,697).]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO IN TALKING AND TALKING WITH WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS, I DO I DO SEE THIS AS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

I MEAN, REVERSE OSMOSIS, IT IS AN ENGINEERING ASPECT OF A REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM FOR THE NORTH, THE NORTH REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

BUT IT IS OVER $1 MILLION JUST FOR AN ENGINEERING ASPECT OF IT.

JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON REVERSE OSMOSIS, I DON'T KNOW, AS DIRECTORS HERE, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS HERE, WE CAN BRING HIM UP IF YOU LIKE.

YES. MR. DAN WORRELL, OUR ASSISTING UTILITY DIRECTOR.

WELCOME, DAN. WELCOME.

THANKS VERY MUCH. FIRST TIME BEING UP HERE.

JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU. HOW MANY WATER, WATER WELLS ARE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT THE CITY UTILIZES? RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OVER 40 WATER WELLS, OVER 40.

AND HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE SALTWATER INTRUSION EXCUSE ME? SALTWATER INTRUSION.

THERE'S I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT OVER THE YEARS, THE NUMBER IS GROWING.

AND THE LAST NUMBER I HAVE WAS FOUR THAT I WAS.

SO WITH THIS REVERSE OSMOSIS, I SAY MORE HAPPEN WITH THIS REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM, WILL THAT THAT GET RID OF THE SALTWATER INTRUSION? WILL IT GET RID OF INTRUSION? NO. BUT IT WILL CLEAN THE WATER.

IT WILL CLEAN THE WATER TO MAKE A SALTWATER INTRUSION.

WELL VIABLE FOR PEOPLE TO DRINK.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND ALSO IN THE REVERSE OSMOSIS, THERE'S THINGS SUCH AS PFOA AND SOME OTHER CHEMICALS FOREVER CHEMICALS, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT, WITHIN DRINKING WATER OR REVERSE OSMOSIS, HANDLE THOSE CHEMICALS AS WELL.

YES, THEY WILL. THANK YOU.

SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO COUNCIL THAT THIS IS A VERY BIG INITIATIVE.

IT IS AN EXPENSIVE INITIATIVE, BUT THIS IS ONLY THE ENGINEERING ASPECT FOR 1 MILLION.

SO I IMAGINE AS I'M SPEAKING WITH STAFF, THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $4 MILLION PROJECT.

THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE FOR ME.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS COUNCIL IS ALL IN BEFORE WE PUT $1 MILLION INTO JUST THE ENGINEERING ASPECT OF IT.

AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT INITIATIVE.

IT'S IT'S QUALITY WATER.

AND WE WILL BE LEADING THE LEADING THE PRIDE OF THE COUNTY AND QUALITY WATER INITIATIVE.

I'LL HAVE TO SEE THAT. POINT WELL TAKEN.

ANYBODY WANT TO? ANY COMMENTS REGARDING.

DID YOU HEAR BACK THERE? ANY COMMENTS REGARDING COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO? I JUST JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ALSO SHERMAN.

THIS IS THIS IS COMING OUT OF AN ENTERPRISE FUND, RIGHT? AH, YES, SIR. THIS IS OUT OF THE UTILITIES FUND.

OKAY. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT ON GENERAL FUND.

CORRECT. FUNDS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.

READILY AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT.

YES, SIR. AND THE THE LONG TERM OF THIS THIS THIS DESIGN THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO PREPARE TO BUILD THIS PORTION OF THE PLANT GIVES US SOME TIME TO LOOK FOR WHAT SOURCES OF REVENUE WE WOULD USE TO BUILD TO BUILD THE ACTUAL COMPONENTS OF THE PLANT, WHICH WOULD BE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT INVESTMENT FOR US.

AND SO WE'VE AS STATED IN THE MEMO, WE'RE LOOKING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE GRANTS AND STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY. ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, I WANTED TO ECHO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BEING ALL IN NOW, AND I THINK

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IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE.

DRINKING WATER.

SO THAT THAT POINT WAS VERY WELL TAKEN.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, ANY COMMENTS? WELL, QUESTION.

I'M GOING TO. YOU HAVE A COMMON CORE.

YOU'LL HAVE A COMMON CARD ON THIS, SIR.

SO I'M GOING TO.

AS FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED BUDGET AMENDMENT AMOUNT $108,697 IN THE AUTHORIZED EXECUTION OF TETRA TECH TASK ORDER ZERO ONE, 2019 DASH 006 FOR THE IN RW TP REVERSE OSMOSIS REHABILITATION ENGINEERING AGAINST THE MASTER AGREEMENT TOTAL AMOUNT 1,000,082 $82,429.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AND HE OPPOSED. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

DID YOU SAY HI? THE COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YOU SAID I. YES, SIR.

COPY THAT. ALL RIGHT.

SO ON THESE ITEMS, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD.

WE'RE ON THE CONSENT AND THOSE ITEMS WERE PULLED.

THIS ONE ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO TO COVER HIS REMARKS SO NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAD PULLED IT.

SO THERE WAS NO SPEAK OF CARDS ON THIS.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. JUST JUST SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

[8. Contract: Design services for City Hall Complex Building E – Task Order 1, Amendment 2 (Parking); Task Order 1 Amendment 2 (Main Entry); Task Order 2 (Bidding, Award and Construction Administration; Task Order 3 (Furniture Fixtures and Equipment Design) – Facilities/Parks and Building Departments (Silling Architects - $268,633)]

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING E BEING A COMPLETED SOMEDAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE.

BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE CHANGE ORDER.

PRIMARILY THE ONE ON THE PARKING.

FIRST ONE IS IN FRONT OF THIS BUILDING, IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

A THERE'S FIVE HANDICAPPED PARKING STALLS THERE RIGHT AT THE DOOR.

RIGHT. AND THEY'RE VERY NICE ONES.

THEY'RE REAL BIG. MAKE IT VERY CONVENIENT FOR THE PERSON THAT NEEDS IT.

SO PARKING FOR THE HANDICAP IN THE FRONT OF BUILDING A THERE'S FIVE LARGE SPOTS.

THIS WILL MAKE IT IF YOU MAKE THIS CHANGE, THIS WILL MAKE IT HARDER FOR THOSE WHO NEED THE ACCESS, MAKE IT HARDER FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE FURTHER AWAY FROM BUILDING A. SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE.

THE OTHER SPOTS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO THE EAST OF THE PARKING LOT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF, THEY COULD JUST BE A BONUS, RIGHT? THOSE SPOTS, THERE'S NO REASON BY BATON STANDARD TO LOSE THAT PARKING.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING MORE PARKING FOR BUILDING E, BUT WE'RE LOSING THE CURRENT PARKING THAT WE HAVE FOR BUILDING A.

SO BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND I'VE HAD TO PARK AT WINN-DIXIE, SO GETTING RID OF ANY PARKING LOTS FOR ME TO ATTEND A MEETING JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

WHEN IT'S A RESOURCE WE HAVE, WE CAN KEEP IT.

IT'S GOING TO SAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THOSE THAT HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO BUILDING A CONVENIENTLY.

IT'S RIGHT AT THE DOOR.

THEY GET A GREAT SPOT.

THEY HAVE THE RAMPS READY TO COME IN AND IT'S THERE.

THAT'S WHAT I HAD ON ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER? THAT'S IT, MADAM SHERMAN.

UH, YES, THE, THE ACTUAL FINAL LAYOUT OF THE PARKING IS STILL BEING DEVELOPED.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME RENDERINGS IN THE PACKET THAT ARE BEING REFERENCED.

SO I CAN'T SAY WITH 100% CERTAINTY WHAT THE FINAL LAYOUT WILL BE OF THE PARKING SPACES.

BUT THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY STANDARDS WE HAVE TO MEET WITH REGARD TO LOCATION OF HANDICAPPED SPOTS.

SO THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY FACTOR IN TO WHERE THEY THEY ARE LOCATED.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR VISITOR FLOW INTO BUILDING A CURRENT BUILDING A THE THREE STOREY BUILDING COMES FROM UTILITIES, CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND SO THAT FUNCTION IS MOVING OVER INTO BUILDING.

E SO THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC FLOW OVER INTO THE NEW BUILDING ANYWAY.

SO THE SPACES IN FRONT OF BUILDING E ARE LIKELY TO BE UTILIZED MORE HEAVILY.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE TO MEET ADA, UH, HANDICAPPED, HANDICAPPED PARKING REQUIREMENTS ANYWAY.

AND THAT IS STILL SOMETHING WE'RE DEVELOPING, BUT WE WILL BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT, OBVIOUSLY, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.

I'LL BE THAT MAN. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? HEARING NONE. I NEED I NEED EMOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUTHORIZED THE TASK ORDER ONE AMENDMENT TWO PARKING TASK ORDER ONE AMENDMENT TO MAIN ENTRY TASK ORDER TWO BIDDING AWARD AND A CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION AND

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SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? BEAR. YES, GO AHEAD.

JUST ONE THING. I DID NOTICE THAT STERLING ARCHITECTS IS OUT OF THE COUNTY.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT LOCAL, LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROCUREMENT.

BUT I KNOW LIKE A BUILDING OR A POLICE STATION RIGHT NOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES OF VYING FOR A SPOT TO DO THE ELECTRIC IN THERE, THE PLUMBING, ETC., ETC.. SO I HOPE THAT THE CITY AND THE GOVERNMENT AND US AS WELL DECIDE TO GO WITH WITH A LOCAL, LOCAL PREFERENCE AND USE OUR NEW LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE ONCE THAT'S ESTABLISHED. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COPY THAT. THANK YOU.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

STAND BY, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT.

HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER TEN.

BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY A BUTCHERING.

[10. Consideration of reallocating American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds for an emergency operations center ($2,000,000) and appropriating funds towards replacement of the Citywide financial system utilizing Undesignated Fund Balance ($2,000,000).]

IF THAT'S NOT TRUE, THEN WHEN IS WHEN IS IT EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETION? THAT THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION.

RIGHT, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

HAVEN'T SEEN A BUILDING LIKE THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE.

IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HAD IT.

BUT THAT LEADS US TO ANOTHER QUESTION.

IF WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THE THIRD FLOOR OF BUILDING E FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON SPENDING $2 MILLION ON WHICH THE IDEA MAKES SENSE, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE IDEA OR ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST I'M ALSO GLAD THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IT ALL AT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF BUILDING THE FLOOR AND LETTING IT SIT THERE STAGNANT FOR YEARS ON END.

THIS MAKES SENSE, BUT IT GENERATES THE QUESTION WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY IN BUILDING A WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT SPACE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN? BECAUSE WHILE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE BUILDINGS THAT.

YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT IS GOING TO BE OR IS THAT SPACE GOING TO BE SITTING VACANT FOR YEARS ON END? I DON'T THINK SO.

AND LOOKING AT THE $2 MILLION REQUEST, THIS IS REMEMBER THAT HURRICANE SEASON, THE PEAK OF IT IS SEPTEMBER.

I KNOW WE I KNOW WE HAVE A GOOD FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW.

I'M JUST. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO SPEND IT.

BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS NOT BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE BUDGET FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKER.

BUT YOU'RE IN. NOT THIS.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO, MADAM. MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WE ARE ACTIVELY UNDER.

NO, SORRY. IT WAS ROBERT STICE.

THAT'S WHO I GOT MIXED UP WITH.

SO. WE'RE.

SORRY ABOUT THEM. THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW, I WATCHED THE CHIEF OF POLICE HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO BEGGING FOR HELP.

WHY DON'T WE? PUTTING UP BUILDINGS OR MODIFYING BUILDINGS WHEN HE'S MAKING IT FOR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, POLICE CARS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO ARE WE FUNDING ANYTHING TOWARDS THE POLICE? THAT'S CRITICAL. I MEAN.

YOU KNOW, HELP ME WITH THIS. WHAT ARE WE DOING OUT OF THIS? $2 MILLION? WHAT'S GOING THERE? CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WE WILL ONCE FINISH YOUR COMMENTS.

WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE. WELL, THANK GOD.

OKAY. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE SAFE.

SO I JUST I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE GAME HERE, BUT I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO, MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS HERE.

YES, SIR. ITEMIZE THEM ONE.

HOPEFULLY I'LL GET THEM ALL. SO THE THE TIME FRAME FOR THE BUILD OF BUILDING E, WE ARE ACTIVELY UNDERGOING THE DESIGN, AS YOU'RE AWARE, FROM THE PRIOR ITEM. WE'RE ABOUT AT 90% DESIGN PLANS.

THE GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THE FULL DESIGN AND TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 2023.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE THERE IS ARPA, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING INVOLVED IN THE FUNDING OF THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IT FULLY EXTENDED BY 2026.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE OUTYEARS FOR EXPENDITURE.

MY ESTIMATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME NOT KNOWING WHAT THE WORLD WILL LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF SUPPLY CHAIN AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN 18 TO 24 MONTH BUILD

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SO JUST A BALLPARK FOR YOU.

REGARDING THE I.T.

SPACE THAT WILL BE VACANT, VACANT IN THE OLD, OLDER CITY HALL BUILDING HERE ON CAMPUS.

I HAVE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE OVER OUR HAVE HAVE NO MORE SPACE TO GROW.

AND SO THERE ARE THERE'S A LONG LIST OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE LINING UP TO SAY, LET ME MOVE IN THERE WHEN THE SPACE BECOMES OPEN.

SO WE WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM FILLING FILLING THE SPACE.

I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT DECISION HAS NOT BEEN MADE YET.

IN CASE ANYONE'S WONDERING.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY CRITICAL NEED THERE.

AND IT WILL BE HAPPY FOR THE SPACE.

ALSO, WHEN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT CUSTOMER SERVICE MOVES OUT, THAT WILL FREE UP SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE AS WELL.

REGARDING THE QUESTION OF MEETING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE NEEDS THAT HAVE COME UP FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE.

AND THAT WILL BE A VERY HEALTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDING AND HOW THAT WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

THE FUNDING FOR BUILDING E IS A DIFFERENT SOURCE, AND IT'S NOT A SOURCE THAT WE COULD HAVE USED TO MEET SOME OF THE NEEDS FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

SO IT'S FUNDED BY ARPA MONEY, WHICH HAD VERY SPECIFIC FEDERAL MONEY, VERY SPECIFIC EXPENDITURE RULES, AND IT'S ALSO FUNDED BY OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT FUND.

AND THAT'S THEY'RE THEY'RE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS TO THAT BECAUSE THEY RAN OUT OF SPACE HERE AT THIS COMPLEX AND HAD TO RENT SPACE OVER THE WINN-DIXIE PLAZA.

SO THEY'RE EAGER TO BE A PART OF FUNDING FOR THE BUILDING AND GET BACK INTO AN ACTUAL SPACE HERE ON THIS CAMPUS.

SO THAT MONEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR POLICE OR FIRE NEEDS ANYWAY.

THAT HELPS ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I THINK THAT WAS ALL, SIR.

YES, MA'AM. I BELIEVE YOU COVERED IT ALL, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I NEED A MOTION. MAYOR.

YEAH, JUST TO START THE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM PENDING THE DISCUSSION AT THE UPCOMING POLICE AND FIRE WORKSHOP.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION. I GUESS I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT ONE.

I FEEL THAT WE CAN USE THIS.

I JUST WANT TO SECOND FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL.

OKAY. YOU GO AHEAD AND GO FIRST.

AND I GUESS I'LL REFER TO CITY MANAGER.

CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING THAT I SPOKE TO MS..

SHERMAN ABOUT POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH THE 2 MILLION, WHETHER IT'S FIRE INFRASTRUCTURE POLICE.

BECAUSE I WAS I WAS THINKING THAT AND MEET THAT AND MET THAT THRESHOLD.

AND THEN PERHAPS BUILDING E CAN BE FUNDED BY OTHER SOURCES.

BUT I'LL JUST EVEN IF WE DO PUT IT TOWARDS THE FIRE STATION OR POLICE CARS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, IT'S STILL GOING TO TAKE TIME EITHER WAY.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WHETHER THE MEETINGS AUGUST 30TH OR AUGUST 31ST TO SEE IF THERE IS A PORTION THAT CAN QUALIFY OR NOT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM WITH THIS.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE VERY LIMITED OPTIONS.

THE POLICE AND FIRE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE CANNOT BE FUNDED WITH WHAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN ARPA.

YOU'LL RECALL WE THERE WAS A REVENUE LOSS CATEGORY AND THAT WAS THE CATEGORY THAT WAS BROADLY OPEN TO US TO EXPEND.

WE USE THAT FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, INCLUDING LIKE THE, UM, THE POLICE BODYCAMS AND A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT I COULD GO BACK THROUGH OR HAVE.

JOAN PROBABLY A LINE ITEM FOR YOU, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS.

THE REVENUE LOSS CATEGORY HAS BEEN FULLY ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS.

WHAT REMAINS IS GENERALLY ELIGIBLE AND GENERALLY ELIGIBLE IS VERY SPECIFIC.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD CASE FOR EITHER SOME BROADBAND WATER, SEWER, COVID RELATED, AND THAT'S WHY WE ALLOCATED 5 MILLION TO THE HOMELESSNESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO UNLESS JOAN TELLS ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THERE'S NO STRATEGY THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT WOULD FUND THE CRITICAL NEEDS WE HAVE FOR POLICE AND FIRE OUT OF ARPA FUNDING.

OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I GUESS I MISUNDERSTOOD.

THAT'S WHAT IS THAT SAME REGULATION FOR? PROBABLY PART OF THE CONFUSION IS IT MENTIONS BOTH OF THE FUNDING.

AND I THINK WHAT THE CITY MANAGER IS CLARIFYING BECAUSE IT DOES MENTION A 2 MILLION ARPA UNDER THE REVENUE LOSS WHICH COULD BE USED FOR ANYTHING WHICH HE'S SAYING IS PRETTY MUCH IT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED.

IT'S THE MORE NARROW FUNDING WHICH IS AVAILABLE.

WHICH IS A GENERAL ELIGIBLE, BUT BOTH FUNDINGS ARE MENTIONED, BUT ONE, ALTHOUGH COULD HAVE BEEN THAT.

I THINK THE MESSAGE IS THAT SCHIP IS PASSED.

OKAY. SO THAT'S SO SO SO THIS 2 MILLION RIGHT HERE IS NOT UNDER REVENUE LOSS OR IT IS.

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED OUT OF GENERALLY ELIGIBLE FOR HE.

OK. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY ALLOCATED THE 2 MILLION FOR THE BUILDING UNDER REVENUE LOSS PREVIOUSLY.

SO THAT WAS THAT'S ALREADY PART OF OUR FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF COMBINED WITH.

THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S FUNDING.

OK BUILD A THREE STOREY BUILDING WITHOUT THE THIRD FLOOR BEING FINISHED, IF THAT HELPS AS THE TWO.

I THINK FROM TALKING TO DEPUTY MAYOR HAS A 2 MILLION THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR REVENUE LOSS.

I KNOW WE ALLOCATED.

HAS ANYTHING ALREADY BEEN COMMITTED SUCH THAT IT COULD NOT BE DIVERTED? I THINK THAT'S.

YEAH. YES.

YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE IS THAT BEFORE WE SPEND IT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY AVENUE.

THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY THING. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO SAY NO TO BUILDING E, JUST LIKE WITH WITH MAYOR.

PREVIOUSLY, WHEN WE REALLOCATED THE ROAD MAINTENANCE MONEY, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, BUT I SAID, HEY, IF WE DO NOT GET APPROVED FOR THE FIRE STATION, THEN I WANT IT TO COME BACK.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO OPEN UP AND LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT AVENUES, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M REALLY LOOKING AT FROM HERE.

LIKE, SO I'M NOT SAYING NO TO BUILDING E, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IF IF IT'S NOT 100% COMMITTED.

CAN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ON AUGUST 30TH OR AUGUST 31ST THAT A PORTION GOES HERE.

A PORTION GOES THERE IF IT CAN.

IF IT CAN'T, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THAT'S JUST SO THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I JUST WANT TO GET TOTAL COMPREHENSION OF WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

IF WE COULD TAKE THE ARPA FUNDING, SAY FROM THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SWITCH IT AND THAT QUALIFIED OR TAKE IT FROM ANOTHER REVENUE ARPA FUNDING STREAM.

IS THAT IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.

YEAH, I WAS SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THIS 2 MILLION RIGHT HERE, BUT YEAH.

YEAH. OR JUST HAVE THE CONVERSATION MAYBE AFTER THE WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 30TH OR 31ST, WE STILL HAVEN'T DECIDED.

IT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AND THEN WE'LL GO FORWARD AND APPROVE IT FOR BUILDING IT HERE.

OR MAYBE IT SHOWS LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, 200,000 OUT OF THE 2 MILLION CAN BE USED TOWARDS THIS OR THAT.

SO I ASKED SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND I THINK DURING THE BRIEFING IT WAS EVIDENT THAT THIS.

IT HAD TO WE COULDN'T USE IT FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, STAFF, I'M GOING TO ASK TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THE DISCUSSION FOR US.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN IT.

IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SHOW YOU WHAT I HAVE ON MY SCREEN HERE.

BUT AGAIN, WE WERE ALLOCATED OVER JUST OVER 18 MILLION.

TREASURY GUIDELINES SAY THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE 10 MILLION UNDER REVENUE LOSS TO ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING OTHER THAN DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, ETC..

SO COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ALLOCATED THE FULL TEN UNDER REVENUE LOSS, WHICH IS THE CATEGORY THAT POLICE AND FIRE ITEMS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.

SO. ON JULY 15, COUNCIL ALLOCATED ALMOST 700,251 BODYCAMS ON 922, COUNCIL ALLOCATED 2 MILLION TO BUILDING E FOR THE GENERAL FUND PORTION.

THEY ALSO YOU ALSO ALLOCATED 2 MILLION FOR THE CITY WIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT.

ANOTHER 80,000 FOR THE SMARTPHONE DEVICES FOR BODY CAMS. AND THEN AT THE MAY 5TH MEETING, COUNCIL ALLOCATED JUST OVER 5 MILLION TO GO TOWARDS BUILDING E! FOR THE ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND PORTION.

SO THAT'S ALL OF THE 10 MILLION WHEN YOU GET TO THE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED.

AND WHEN I SAY APPROVED, ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THIS HAS BEEN EXPENDED.

ALL OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ENCUMBERED.

THAT'S THE TERM THAT DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY USES, AND THAT IS WHAT IS OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS REPORTING.

WHEN THEY DO THEIR REPORTS, THEY SAY IT'S BEEN ENCUMBERED AND THEY CODE IT BASED ON THE THE THE USE OF THE FUNDS.

SO UNDER THE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE, WHICH IS THE VERY NARROW SCOPE COUNCIL HAS ALLOCATED 345,000 TO COVERED LEAVE FOR STAFF, FIRE, PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, DISASTER RECOVERY SITE CLOUD SOFTWARE, 275,000 CYBERSECURITY ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE REMAINING THREE YEARS OF OUR CISCO ENTERPRISE CONTRACT.

300,000 50,000 FOR CONTINUED ENHANCED CLEANING FOR COVID PROTOCOLS, 2 MILLION TO THE CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT.

AND REMEMBER THAT PIECE? AND THEN 5 MILLION TO THE HOMELESSNESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING RFA.

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SO THAT'S THE 2 MILLION THAT WE'RE COMING BACK WITH.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT 2 MILLION, THAT FALLS UNDER THE GENERALLY ELIGIBLE THE NARROW SCOPE OF ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

BUT FOR THE EOC PORTION OF THAT REQUEST, THIS 2 MILLION, THIS REQUEST WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE.

THE FACT THAT IT IS BEING USED FOR AN EOC EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN TREASURY GUIDELINES AS AN ELIGIBLE USE OF THE FUNDS.

SO IF WE WERE TO TAKE THAT 2 MILLION AND TRY TO FIT POLICE AND FIRE PROJECTS INTO IT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM REVENUE LOSS.

SO IF COUNCIL DECIDES TONIGHT THAT THEY WANTED YOU WANT TO CHANGE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED OR REPORTED AN EARMARK TO TREASURY? I BELIEVE WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT.

WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO AMEND OUR REPORTS.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED OR EARMARKED ALL OF THE 18 MILLION.

EXCEPT THIS 2 MILLION HERE.

AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS SO THE TWO PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO THEN DECIDE IF THEY ARE LESS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF POLICY DECISION WOULD BE THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ENTERPRISE WIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND THE BUILDING OF BUILDING E.

UM, THE ALTERNATIVES IF YOU REMOVE FUNDING OUT OF THE ARPA FUNDING THAT'S DEDICATED TO THOSE TWO PROJECTS, IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO REDUCE THAT FOR POLICE AND FIRE PROJECTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE BOTH SO CRITICAL FOR THE CITY AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE WOULD UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY BE LOOKING TO COME BACK TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER WAY TO FUND IT, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH NOT TO NOT TO GO BACK ON THE REASONS WHY.

BUT THERE'S SOME.

CYBERSECURITY REASONS WHY THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL.

AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR BUILDING.

SO IT'S A DIFFICULT POSITION.

AND I REALIZE THAT YOU'RE WEIGHING VERY IMPORTANT THINGS FOR OUR CITY.

SO, SO SO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I JUST WANT TO CAUTION US.

RIGHT. WE ALREADY SUBMITTED THIS TO THAT ALLOCATION OF THE ARPA FUNDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A FEDERAL AGENCY THAT I WOULD PREFER TO REMAIN ON THEIR GOOD SIDE, IF YOU WILL.

AND I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I JUST WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR PLANS.

WE ALREADY SUBMITTED THAT AS AS THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SAID, WE CAN AMEND, BUT SOMETIMES WITH THESE AMENDMENTS, SOMETIMES IT JUST COMPLICATES THINGS SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS HERE.

I DO WHAT? I DO WANT TO JUMP IN AGAIN.

I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

SO WE WE ALLOCATED IN REVENUE LOST.

WE DID ALLOCATE 2 MILLION TO A BUILDING E IN REVENUE LOSS.

SO IF IT WERE TO WORK, I KNOW IT'S IT'S GOING TO IT'S LIKE PETER AND PAUL THAT BILL TALKS ABOUT A LOT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW.

UM. I GUESS THIS MOVES FORWARD, BUT THEN THAT IF WE WANTED THAT REVENUE LOST, 2 MILLION WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT AND WE REVISE. SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY COUNCILORS ALREADY APPROVED.

$7,269,391 TO BUILDING E! AND THAT'S IN SEPTEMBER 2021 AND MAY 5TH, 2022.

SO IF COUNCIL DECIDES TONIGHT THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT SHIFT IN PRIORITIES, WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE REPORTS THAT WE ARE.

WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY AMEND THE ACTIVITY IN THE NEXT REPORTING PERIOD FOR OUR TREASURY REPORTS.

I HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY I'M DOING, LARRY, SOME JUSTICE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND HOW THEY HOW I'M ARTICULATING THIS.

BUT, YES, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

IT HASN'T BEEN SPENT.

YEAH. COUNCIL'S DECISION.

I JUST AND LIKE, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A JUST A STRAIGHT OUT DECISION TO BE MADE NOW.

I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE TABLING AND WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATION ON IT LATER ON BECAUSE THERE WILL BE ITEMS BROUGHT BEFORE US AUGUST 30TH OR 31ST.

WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET AND WE MIGHT BE LIKE, WOW, MAYBE WE DO NEED TO ALLOCATE SOME MORE TOWARDS THAT.

OR MAYBE IT MIGHT BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD BUILDING.

THAT CAN WAIT. BUT IT'S MORE SO JUST THE TABLE AND SEE.

YOU KNOW WHERE THE CHIPS LIE.

SO THAT'S ALL.

I'LL STOP TALKING.

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AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THAT? IT WOULD IT WOULD. IT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM. I'M SORRY.

SO SO I THINK THE POINT THAT'S BEING MADE, AND I UNDERSTAND, IS THAT OUT OF THE THE REVENUE LOSS CATEGORY, THE REVENUE LOSS CATEGORY, IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO LIKE THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT AND THE BUILDING.

BUT THOSE MONIES COULD BE ALLOCATED TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THEY COULD BE ALLOCATED TO POLICE OR FIRE NEEDS IF YOU CHOSE THAT.

THOSE WERE A HIGHER IMPORTANCE BECAUSE THAT CATEGORY OF ARPA FUNDING IS VERY YOUR DISCRETION, REMOVING IT FROM ONE ITEM TO CORRECT.

SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU TOOK 2 MILLION.

LET'S SAY YOU TOOK ALL 7 MILLION FROM BUILDING E AND YOU WANTED TO USE THAT FOR POLICE FIRE NEEDS.

YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

YOU JUST WOULD NOT BE MOVING FORWARD WITH BUILDING E SO THAT PROJECT WOULD STOP.

SAME WITH THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT WHERE YOU HAVE $2 MILLION TO ALLOCATED TO THAT.

IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THOSE $2 MILLION OR A PORTION OF IT AND ALLOCATE IT TO THE POLICE AND FIRE PROJECTS, THEN THEN THAT IS CORRECT.

THOSE THAT PROJECT WOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD UNLESS WE FOUND SOME OTHER FUNDING STRATEGY.

I'LL BE THAT. I LIKE THE.

I LIKE BUILDING A.

I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE IT.

I THINK WE'RE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS AS IT IS THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

BUT COUNCIL WISHES TO TABLE IT.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS? YEAH, I DO MATH.

I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE DEPUTY MAYOR IS GOING, BUT I KIND OF DISAGREE IN THAT DIRECTION OF TABLING.

I THINK WE I'M KIND OF WITH YOU.

I THINK ONCE YOU SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND START CHANGING IT.

TRUST ME, YOU OPEN A CAN OF WORMS AND YOU DON'T WANT AND IT GETS DIFFICULT.

THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

I THINK WE WE GOT TWO CRITICAL NEEDS THAT EOC IS POLICE AND FIRE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.

IT'S GOING TO SAVE LIVES.

IT'S GOING TO SAVE FIREFIGHTER LIVES, POLICE LIVES, CITIZEN LIVES.

AND IT'S GOING TO GIVE A BETTER RESPONSE TO EMERGENCY SITUATION THAT MAY ARISE.

AND THEN OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS SO OLD, WE NEED TO SHOW UP WHERE OUR MONEY AND WHAT WE'RE PAYING AND HOW HOW WE PAY BILLS AND HOW WE RECEIVE FINANCIAL PRODUCTS.

SO I JUST THINK THAT THE UNFUNDED UNFUNDED BONUS, I THINK WE GOT THE MONEY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT HELP THE POLICE AND FIRE AND OUR WORKSHOP.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN STUDYING FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS.

I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS FUNDING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK.

IT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

CITY MANAGER AH.

DO WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS MONEY? THIS $2 MILLION IS WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME OR WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE DEADLINE.

THE RULE IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING ENCUMBERED BY 2024 AND FULLY EXPENSED, FULLY EXPENDED BY 2026.

SO THERE'S $2 MILLION.

THE FULL THE FULL 18 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED FOR 18 MILLION.

BUT JUST $2 MILLION IS PART OF THAT.

YES, SIR. I JUST THINK I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND I THINK BY MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH TWO GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITY, A NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM SYSTEM AND A EOC, WHICH IS GREATLY NEEDED.

WHERE IS OUR EOC AT RIGHT NOW? CITY MANAGEMENT. OH, WE DON'T HAVE ONE, SIR.

EXACTLY. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.

AND NOW WE HAVE A STATE OF THE ART EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER THAT COULD SAVE A LOT OF LIVES IN TIMES OF EMERGENCY.

I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET THE PLAN IN MOTION.

WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU DON'T WANT TO ROCK THE BOAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE $2 MILLION IN YOUR PALM.

SO THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL. THANK YOU.

THEY HAVE BEEN FILIBERTO. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AFTER LISTENING TO YOU AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT TO START DOING AMENDMENTS AND EVERYTHING TO WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY'LL START RAISING EYEBROWS. AND SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY SECOND.

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BUT EOC IS ANOTHER GREAT THING TO PUT THIS $2 MILLION TOWARDS.

SO I'M TO WITHDRAW MY SECOND SAYING THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. FELIX.

NO COMMENT. ALL RIGHT, SO I NEED A MOTION, GENTLEMEN.

YOU KNOW, THE THE HIS DIED WITHOUT A SECOND.

SO I NEED EMOTION.

I NEED A MOTION FOR ITEM TEN.

OKAY, MAYOR? YES, SIR. CARRY ON.

WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER RELOCATING THE OPERA FUNDS FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.

THE $2 MILLION IN APPROPRIATED FUNDS TOWARDS REPLACING THE CITYWIDE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

UTILIZING A DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE OF $2 MILLION.

I'LL SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES, MAYOR. JUST.

I'M USUALLY NOT THE NEGATIVE, NANCY, BUT JUST WHEN IT COMES TO AUGUST 30TH OR AUGUST 31ST, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A BUNCH OF THE BUNCH OF THE NEEDS THAT WE NEED, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT? THIS IS WHERE I WAS JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, LEAD US.

SO THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT, I'M DONE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I'VE GOT MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY.

COUNCILMAN. FELIX.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

SEEING ALL IN FAVOR I.

AND HE OPPOSED.

PASSES 4 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

APPOINT TIMOTHY LANCASTER TO THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION BOARD.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

LISTEN, BEFORE WE GO TO NEW BUSINESS, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE NON OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND. THANK YOU, FATHER.

MISS SHERMAN IS BACK.

SO WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

NEW BUSINESS.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

OR IT IS 2022 DASH 89 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, OMITTING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 36 RECREATION DEPARTMENT SUBCHAPTER USE REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS PROHIBITING SMOKING IN VACANT WITHIN MUNICIPAL PARKS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDNANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY.

PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDED FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT REFLECTS CHANGES TO STATE LAW THAT OCCURRED THIS YEAR.

ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE CHANGING OUR ORDINANCE TO STATE THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES THAT CAN ONLY OCCUR WITHIN SMOKE FREE ZONES IN OUR PARKS.

SO SMOKING, VAPING AND SIMILAR TYPE ACTIVITIES WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON BALLFIELDS AROUND PLAYGROUNDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS.

THIS MIRRORS A STATE ORDINANCE THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED.

AND THEN CIGARS WILL BE ALLOWED.

CIGARS AND PIPES.

CIGARS AND PIPES.

BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATORS.

YES. UNFILTERED CIGARS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MARY.

THAT WAS ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY COMING CARDS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR. BILL BATTEN.

GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THE NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT IS TO PROTECT.

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IT'S NOT TO RULE OUR LIVES, I THINK.

I THINK WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO PROTECT YOU.

SO INSTEAD, TO MAKE YOU THINK I'M DOING SOMETHING, I'M GOING TO START START PICKING ON YOU AND SAY YOU CAN'T SMOKE.

THE PERSON WANTS TO SMOKE.

THEY'RE OUT IN THE OPEN. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN DESIGNATED AREAS WHEN YOU'RE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, BUT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THAT, ALL I NOTICED WAS IT SAID IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION AND OUR PARKS AREA, I MIGHT HAVE NOT CARRIED IT FAR ENOUGH TO GONE TO MORE PAGES, BUT THAT TO ME IS OVERSTEPPING. I'M NOT A SMOKER AND I DON'T.

YOU KNOW, GIVE OR TAKE.

IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I SEE MY GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING AS THIS IS TO ME.

IT'S LIKE NIT PICKING ON INDIVIDUALS WHERE YOU SAY YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN THE OPEN AIR.

THAT'S BECAUSE I KNOW A COUPLE OF NATIVE AMERICANS THAT'S ALMOST INFRINGING UPON THEIR HERITAGE WHEN YOU START DOING IT.

IF WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE NOW, YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, THAT'S NOT MY CULTURE, SO THAT'S WRONG.

I KNOW A LOT OF NATIVE AMERICANS WHERE THE SMOKING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE'S STANDARD SAYS, WELL, THAT'S BAD. OUR NUMBER ONE FUNCTION IS TO PROTECT, NOT TO RULE OUR LIVES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE OTHER SPEAKER CAN'T.

MADAM SHERMAN. YOU WANT TO? PRESENT THIS ITEM.

I CAN ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, SIR.

SO THE DESIGNATED AREA.

RIGHT. IT INCLUDES PIPES.

SO THE WORDING WE PUT IN HERE, WHICH DOES MIRROR THE STATE LAW, SAYS THAT IT WOULD BE UNLAWFUL FOR SOMEONE TO SMOKE CIGARETS FILTERED CIGARS, PIPES, USE ELECTRONIC VAPORIZERS OR ANY OTHER SMOKING APPARATUS OR VAPING DEVICE.

DEVICE, EXCUSE ME.

AND IT GOES ON TO SAY THE AREAS WHERE THAT WOULD BE UNLAWFUL, SO IT WOULD BE ON PLAYING FIELDS AND PLAYGROUNDS, BLEACHER AREAS, DUGOUTS AROUND TEAM SEATING AREAS, CONCESSION AREAS, SPECTATOR AREAS OR ANY OTHER AREA, NOT SPECIFICALLY SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS A PERMITTED SMOKING AREA WITHIN A MUNICIPAL PARK.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE UPDATED LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO A MIRROR STATE LAW.

SO THE STATE LAW DOESN'T INCLUDE PIPES, THOUGH, RIGHT? JUST LIKE CIGARS.

THEY DON'T INCLUDE CIGARS.

I CAN. CAN I JUMP IN HERE? ALL RIGHT. SO SO I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN IN THE MAKING FOR TWO YEARS FROM FORMER CITY MANAGER MARK RYAN ON TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED BY THE STATE LEGISLATORS.

AND HE WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, NO SMOKING ON PARKS, PERIOD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT GOES TO COMMITTEE AFTER COMMITTEE AFTER COMMITTEE, CONVERSATIONS ARE MADE AND HAD.

AND THE ONLY WAY IT WAS GOING TO GET PASSED WAS, OKAY, LET'S REVISE THIS OR AMEND THIS TO INCLUDE.

WELL, WE HAVE HERE NOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE CAN'T YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GO OVER THE STATE'S HEAD.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO TO DO ON THIS ITEM.

AND I AGREE WITH MR. BATTEN. OUR NUMBER ONE DUTY IS TO PROTECT HIM.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT OUR KIDS IN THESE PARKS AND PROTECT THEIR LUNGS SO THEY CAN YOU KNOW, THEY CAN HAVE FUN AND NOT CATCH SECOND HAND SMOKE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN THING WITH THIS.

IT JUST PASSED AND THE GOVERNOR JUST SIGNED IT.

BUT THEY THEY PUT THOSE.

THOSE LITTLE CLAUSES IN THERE THAT WERE SNUCK IN ACROSS THE AMENDMENTS.

SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED JUST THIS PAST YEAR.

SO JUST FOR CLARITY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DESIGNATED AREA AT THESE PARKS.

YES, SIR. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME AREAS DESIGNATED, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE VERY CLEAR THROUGHOUT ALL THE PARKS.

AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN EARLIER VERSION OF THE LAW THAT HAD.

TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE PIPES.

RIGHT. IT WAS EXEMPTING THE PIPES.

BUT THEN THE FINAL VERSION ONLY EXEMPTED CIGARS, UNFILTERED CIGARS.

BUT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU GO WITH THE CIGARS WITHOUT THE PIPES? I LIKE PIPES.

I LIKE CIGARS. YOU LIKE CIGARS? OKAY, BUT IT'S ALLOWABLE, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU LAUGHING? BUT MY FATHER USED TO SMOKE A PIPE AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THESE FLAVORED PIPES SO THAT I HAD A REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, AND HE DID IT IN HIS DINNER JACKET.

ALL RIGHT. SO IT BRINGS FOND MEMORIES OF MY DAD JUST SAYING IN THERE, YES, SIR.

CARRY ON. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I JUST HAVE TWO ISSUES WITH THIS ORDINANCE.

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I'M FINE WITH THAT.

BUT IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO A PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 18.

TO. IF THAT PERSON WANTED TO SMOKE IN THAT DESIGNATED AREA, THEY NEED TO BE ABOVE 18.

I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADDED IN THIS ORDINANCE AND ALSO.

YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

AS FAR AS THE DESIGNATED OH.

DEFINE THERE IS IS THERE A FINE TO SOMEBODY VIOLATING THIS ORDINANCE.

IS THERE AN INFRACTION OF ANYBODY? WHO WILL SMOKE IN A DESIGNATED AREA IN OUR PARK.

YEAH. UM, MAYOR, IF I MAY, I WAS JUST.

YES, MA'AM. CONFERRING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY BRIEFLY.

UM, MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE AGE FOR SMOKING IS GOVERNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA, SO WE WOULDN'T BE REGULATING THAT IN OUR ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE NOT BUILT IN ANY KIND OF CITATIONS OR PENALTIES, FINANCIAL OR OTHERWISE, FOR FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT VIOLATE THIS.

BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE, AS WE DO WITH MANY THINGS IN OUR FACILITIES AND PARKS, BE.

HAVING ATTEMPT TO WORK WITH PEOPLE, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION AND FACILITIES TYPE STAFF MEMBERS.

IF THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY WOULD CERTAINLY COMMUNICATE WITH RESIDENTS.

WE TRY TO KEEP THE PEACE IN OUR PARKS ANYWAY.

AND SO IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE TRY TO WORK THROUGH IT.

IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS INVOLVED, I'M SURE THEY WOULD HANDLE IT AS AS GRACEFULLY AS THEY NEEDED TO.

SO, UM, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

SO WE'RE NOT GIVING ANY TEETH TO THIS ORDINANCE, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, NOT IN THIS VERSION.

THEY COULD VIOLATE IT.

AND THERE'S NO.

BUT WHAT WHAT OTHER? IT IS NOT LIKELY BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE.

IS A IS PART OF THE CODE.

THERE ARE GENERAL PROVISIONS WITHIN THE CODE THAT ANY VIOLATION OF THE CODE COULD BE PROHIBITED AS A CODE ENFORCEMENT MATTER IS NOT NOT SOMETHING WHERE WE ARE SEEKING TO DO IT THAT WAY, BUT WE HAVE GENERAL PROVISIONS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO ANY VIOLATION OF CODE.

THIS IS MORE OR LESS THE THOUGHT OF, HEY, WE WILL DESIGNATE THIS PLACE.

CERTAINLY STAFF AND OTHERS WHO ARE CONDUCTING BASEBALL.

OUR OUTINGS WOULD EDUCATE PEOPLE.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO RAISE REVENUE.

WE'RE ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY IN WHICH THEY ARE NOT AROUND OTHERS, THAT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, BUT AS ANY PROVISION OF THE CODE CERTAINLY VIOLATION OF THE CODE.

THERE ARE SOME GENERAL PROVISIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW IT IS JUST NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEKING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

COPY THAT. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? DO YOU WANT TO CONSIDER WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID? WELL, IF SOMEONE WAS TO REFUSE TO NOT ADHERE TO THIS ORDINANCE, I MEAN, WHAT DO THE PARKS HAVE IN THEIR POWER TO DO OR THE POLICE OFFICER OR SOMEONE THAT HAS THE POWER TO ENFORCE THIS ORDINANCE? I MEAN, IF I'M SMOKING ON THE SWING SET AND THAT'S NOT A DESIGNATED AREA IN OUR PARK TO SMOKE, AND THEY, A PARK EMPLOYEE COME UP TO ME AND SAY, YOU CAN'T SMOKE.

THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I OFFERED HIM A PUFF OF PUFF OF MY CIGARET AND I'M NOT GOING NOWHERE.

I MEAN, WHAT CAN HE DO? SO WHAT CAN WE DO? WOULD THAT BE DISORDERLY CONDUCT OR WOULD THAT BE.

IT'D BE A VIOLATION OF OUR ORDINANCE.

THAT'S WHAT A CITY EMPLOYEE.

SO I'LL JUMP IN BRIEFLY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE LANGUAGE SIMILAR TO INDIAN HARBOR.

BUT TO MR. BARTON'S POINT, I WASN'T TRYING TO BE SO.

STRICT ON IT OR BECAUSE INDIAN HARBOR HAS IT WHERE THEY HAVE FEES AND EVERYTHING IMPLEMENTED INTO THEIR ORDINANCE.

BUT I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS NECESSARY ON THIS.

THE SAME WAY OUR POLICE OFFICERS DO A GREAT JOB OF DE-ESCALATING AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ISSUING A TICKET AND TALKING TO A RESIDENTS, I WAS, YOU KNOW, MY MY PERCEPTION OF THIS, THIS WILL DO THE SAME THING IF WE DO NEED TO AD IF I DON'T SEE IT BECOMING AN ISSUE WHERE RESIDENTS ARE COMBATIVE WITH PARKS AND REC AND POLICE, WHEN THEY SEE THAT THERE IS A SIGN DESIGNATED, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE DESIGNATED SIGNS ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND PEOPLE SEE IT AND THEY THEY RESPECT IT AND THEY UNDERSTAND IT.

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BUT IF IT IS, THEN, YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADDING MORE TEETH, THEN SO BE IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

I THINK SINCE THERE'S GOING TO BE DESIGNATED AREAS THAT SHOW, HEY, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN SMOKE, YOU CAN'T SMOKE BY THE PARK.

BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT DONE.

I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF. I VISITED A LOT OF THESE PARKS AND THEIR PARKS I TAKE MY SON TO AND I'VE SEEN SMOKING RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

SO THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING, LIKE MR. BATTON SAID, PROTECTING OUR FUTURE.

SO THAT'S ALL. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO SMOKING ON AIRPLANES AND PEOPLE STILL VIOLATE THE FEDERAL LAW AND THEY STILL WIND UP GETTING CHARGED, SO.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. SO I NEED A MOTION.

MOST OF THE PROOF IS 2022.

89. FIRST READING.

SECOND. WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING TO MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? IN ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SO ITEM NUMBER TWO IS.

REGARDING PROVIDING THE FLAG FOR A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ.

IF YOU GENTLEMEN REMEMBER WHEN THE RESIDENTS OF FALLON CAME OUT LAST MEETING, I MENTIONED ABOUT A 94 YEAR OLD VETERAN THAT WAS A SILVER STAR RECIPIENT.

THIS IS WHO I REFERRED TO, AND THAT DREW MY MEMORY.

AND SO STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE DEED TO 14.

AND MOREOVER, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I JUST WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS SILVER STAR WARRANT.

AND IT READS AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THIS IN LATE APRIL 1951.

MOST OF US WEREN'T ALIVE BACK THEN.

SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ DISPLAYED THE COURAGE THAT EXEMPLIFIED.

THE BORING KINNEAR'S AND HELPED HIM EARN A SILVER STAR.

WHILE APPROACHING A PASS NEAR HING BOK KOREA.

I HOPE I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT.

THE BATTALION WAS FIRED UPON AND THE SQUAD LEADER WAS MORTALLY WOUNDED.

SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ ASSUMED COMMAND AND RECEIVED ORDERS TO WITHDRAW.

HE ORGANIZED THE SQUAD.

AND THIS ALL HAPPENED WHEN HE WAS A PFC.

HE ORGANIZED THE SQUAD AND LET IT TO SAFE TO A SAFER POSITION DURING A LATER ASSAULT TO DRIVE THE ENEMY FROM THE RIDGE.

SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ VOLUNTEERED TO CARRY A WOUNDED SOLDIER TO SAFETY.

HE THEN ENCOUNTERED IN HIS TRANSPORTATION AS HE TRANSITIONED INTO TRYING TO GET HIM TO AN AID STATION, FIVE ENEMY SOLDIERS. HE PLACED HIS WOUNDED COMRADE ON THE GROUND.

HE PROCEEDED TO KILL FOUR OF THE ENEMY SOLDIERS AND CAPTURED THE FIFTH.

NOW, I WANT US TO TO JUST VISUALIZE WHAT HE DID DURING THIS TIME, TO HAVE THE PRESENCE OF MIND, NOT TO KILL THE FIFTH ENEMY AND FORCE HIM TO CARRY HIS COMRADE TO AN AID STATION IS NOT ONLY INTELLIGENCE ON THE FIRE, BUT IT IS REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW HE COULD BETTER SERVE HIS COMRADE.

SO HE HAD HE FORCED THEM CARRY HIS WOUNDED SOLDIER TO HIS BATTALION AID STATION.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT HE EARNED THE SILVER STAR FOR THAT ENGAGEMENT.

AND I NOT ONLY COMMEND HIM, I BELIEVE THAT HAD IT NOT BEEN THAT HE SERVED IN A SEGREGATED UNIT, HE MAY HAVE RECEIVED THE MEDAL OF HONOR.

DURING THAT TIME, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT IT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME.

SO I SUBMIT THIS TO COUNCIL AND DEPUTY MAYOR.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAK OF CARDS FOR THIS? ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU. I SUBMIT THIS TO COUNCIL AND I ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ARCADIUS SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ AS A NOMINEE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL FLAG PROGRAM.

NOW, SECOND, HOW DID I DO? VERY GOOD, SIR. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

WHAT CAN YOU SAY, MR. SAN DIEGO? RODRIGUEZ THAT'S A GREAT AMERICAN, ESPECIALLY DURING THE KOREAN WAR, FROM BEING FROM HIS

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YOU TO DO THAT? I THINK YOU SAY HE SHOULD HAVE GOT THE MEDAL OF HONOR.

I AGREE WITH YOU BASED ON THIS CITATION READING.

AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO VOTE FOR HIM TO RECEIVE OUR FLAG FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND IF YOU SEE HIM, TELL HIM I HONOR HIS SERVICE AND I THANK HIM FOR BEING WHO HE IS.

A GREAT AMERICAN. THANK YOU.

HI, SIR. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? CNN. ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF AS I CAN, BUT I FIRST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERING THIS AS WELL AS STAFF FOR WORKING SO QUICKLY AND DILIGENTLY ON THIS ITEM FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE POLICY.

OUR MINIMUM TARGET IS 4 MILLION, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET UP TO 6 MILLION AND WE'RE ALREADY USING UTILIZING THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUNDS TO THIS DAY.

SO AS WE'RE UTILIZING IT, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING MORE IN.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BROUGHT UP.

DIFFERENT COUNSEL HERE, DIFFERENT COUNSEL THERE.

WELL, MOVING FORWARD FOR WHATEVER COUNCIL IS UP HERE, THIS NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES.

I'LL JUST FOR THE I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF, BUT I'M GOING TO READ ALL FIVE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL BUDGET TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND, INCREMENTALLY INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING FUNDING TRANSFERRED AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET EACH YEAR FROM GENERAL FUND TO ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, THE TRANSFER WAS 750,000. FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023, 1 MILLION IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE FRA UNEXPENDED BALANCE TRANSFER.

THE FRA IS SCHEDULED TO SUNSET IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 ANNUALLY.

ANY UNEXPECTED FUNDS REMAINING IN THE CRA TRUST FUND ARE TRANSFERRED BACK TO BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY PER THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND BEAVER COUNTY IN FISCAL YEAR 2022, 1.3 MILLION IN REMAINING FUNDS FROM THE CRA WAS DIRECTLY TRANSFERRED INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND AND SO ON.

WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT, BUT THREE END OF CRA TRANSFER OF AD VALOREM REVENUE INTO ROMANUS FUND UPON SUNSET OF THE CRA, THE INCREMENT OF THE AD VALOREM REVENUES HELD IN THE CRA TRUST FUND WILL AUTOMATICALLY RETURN TO THE GENERAL FUND.

RATHER THAN PLACING THOSE REVENUES IN GENERAL FUND, THEY SHALL BE BUDGETED INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND NUMBER FOR UNEXPENDED GENERAL FUND DOLLARS AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, A MINIMUM OF 50% OR 1 MILLION, WHICHEVER IS GREATER, SHALL BE TRANSFERRED FROM UNEXPENDED GENERAL FUND DOLLARS AT THE END OF EACH FISCAL YEAR INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND FIVE CELL OF CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING AS PREVIOUSLY DIRECTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTIES SHALL BE DEPOSITED INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

SO YOU YOU PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE SPENDING TO MAKE SURE THE ROADS ARE MAINTAINED, WE'RE STILL MAKING SURE WE PROPERLY FUND SO WE DON'T GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ITEM, JUST AS EXCITED ABOUT THIS ITEM AS I WAS WITH THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION PLAN, BECAUSE THIS CAN REALLY SET THE TONE AND MAKE SURE IT STAYS THAT WAY FOR THE FUTURE, FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR SO DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, I TRULY BELIEVE AS WE PROVIDE INCENTIVES AND INDUCEMENTS FOR THE COMMERCIAL RIGHT, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE OUR TAX BASE AS PART OF THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER MOVING NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE AS THAT SUNSETS, THAT STILL GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT, INCREASE THAT COMMERCIAL BASE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, NOT JUST THE BASE BAYFRONT AN AREA.

RIGHT. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER WE WOULD STILL ACHIEVE THE SAME RIGHT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND GET 4 MILLION. THAT'S THE GOAL IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER BRINGING NUMBER TWO AND SWAPPING THAT WITH NUMBER FOUR.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE BCA WOULD BE IN THE FOURTH POSITION AND THE UNEXPENDED WOULD BE IN THE NUMBER TWO POSITION THAT WOULD CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT TOWARDS INCENTIVIZING COMMERCIAL AND ENCOURAGING COMMERCIAL INCREASE IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'M JUST BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF WE CAN DO THAT AS WE INCREASE, OUR COMMERCIAL BASE WILL BE SERVING THE SAME PURPOSE

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BUT MADAM MADAM SHERMAN MAYOR, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY ASK TO SORT OF CHANGE IN THE APPROACH HERE. JUST TO CLARIFY MY HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THE WAY THE WAY IT WAS WORDED WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE.

THE FOUR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR TWO ARE REALLY SIERRA RELATED STRATEGIES.

SO THREE STRATEGIES OVERALL, BUT WE'LL JUST CALL FOUR POINTS.

THE FOURTH POINT REFERENCES THAT IF STRATEGIES ONE THROUGH THREE ACHIEVE THE TARGET GOAL, THEN THAT FOURTH STRATEGY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY.

BUT IN THINKING ABOUT IT FURTHER, I REALIZED THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN MY RECOMMENDATION IS JUST TO SAY WHICHEVER COMBINATION OF STRATEGIES ACHIEVE THE GOAL FIRST, THEN WE WOULDN'T CONTINUE DEPOSITING THAT MONEY INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND UNLESS COUNSEL CHOSE TO DO SO.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IN TERMS OF ORDER OF OPERATIONS, WHAT ACTUALLY DOES HAPPEN FIRST IN OUR FISCAL YEAR, NUMBER ONE HAPPENS FIRST WHERE YOU PLAN AT THE AND THE BUDGET PROCESS TO PUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN LIKE THE 1 MILLION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE PLANNED FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

THE SECOND THING THAT HAPPENS IS ACTUALLY STRATEGY NUMBER FOUR, WHERE WE KNOW WHAT'S LEFT AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE HALF OF THAT AND PUT IT INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

THE REASON I SAY ALL THAT IS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE VACANCIES WE'VE HAD IN GENERAL FUND, OUR OUR BALLPARK ESTIMATE FOR YEAR END UNSPENT DOLLARS IN GENERAL FUND IS ABOUT $6 MILLION.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT STRATEGY, 3 MILLION APPROXIMATELY WOULD GO INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

SO YOU ADD THAT TO THE 1 MILLION ALREADY BUDGETED AND WE'VE ALREADY MET OUR $4 MILLION GOAL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEN IN ADDITION, YOU'LL STILL HAVE DECISIONS TO BE MADE ABOUT THE CRA FUNDS.

SO THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT ALL OF THAT, IF WE FOLLOW THIS POLICY IS YOU SHOULD HAVE OTHER FUNDING TO DO OTHER THINGS WITH ALREADY THIS FISCAL YEAR BASED ON CURRENT PROJECTIONS.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ITEMS THAT'S IN THE POLICY REQUIRES COUNCIL ACTION INDIVIDUALLY.

SO NONE OF THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.

SO WHEN THE CRA MONEY IS FREED UP, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT COMES TO YOU AND YOU ALL DECIDE WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IT.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY IN THIS.

YEAH, IT DOES ACTUALLY.

IT DOES HELP BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING NUMBER ONE IS THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER FOUR ACTUALLY IS IS THIS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

IF WE COULD JUST FLIP THAT, WE'RE GOOD.

I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND WHATEVER.

MAYBE IF YOU ADOPT THE POLICY IN SUCH A WAY TO SAY WHATEVER COMBINATION OF STRATEGIES ACHIEVES THAT GOAL DURING THE FISCAL YEAR.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH.

SO THAT YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTED TO DO ALL FOUR THINGS OR ALL THREE THINGS.

OKAY. WHEN YOU ACHIEVE THE GOAL, YOU COULD.

YOU COULD STOP IF YOU CHOSE TO, OR YOU COULD CONTINUE ADDING TO IT.

GO BEYOND THE $4 MILLION TARGET, FOR EXAMPLE.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT HELPS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MA'AM.

SO SAYING THE SAME THING.

SO DEPUTY MAYOR, WE GOT SPEAKER CARTER.

WELL, MR. BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS GUMP.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

OVERALL, I LIKE THIS PLAN OF ATTACK.

IT MAKES SENSE. IT'S DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCES AND YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THEM AND YOU'VE ALSO SET A DESIGNATED OBJECTIVE AND YOU WANT TO REACH THAT.

THAT'S GOOD. HOWEVER, I WOULD LOOK AT STOPPING THE SALE OF ALL THE GREEN SPACE THAT THE CITY OWNS.

WHEN WE MADE THAT CHOICE, OR WHEN THE CITY MADE THAT CHOICE, NOT WE.

WHEN THE CITY MADE THAT CHOICE OF SELLING THEIR GREEN SPACES OR OTHER PROPERTIES WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE AND THERE WAS NO MONEY BEING SPENT ON ROAD MAINTENANCE, AND THAT WAS THE ONLY MECHANISM BY WHICH WE COULD COME UP WITH IT.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, NOW WE'RE AT A DIFFERENT TIME AND PLACE WHERE NOW WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE LEFT IN THE CITY.

THAT CITY OWNS THAT GREEN SPACE ONCE IT'S GONE.

LET'S GO BACK TO WHAT THE OTHER THING WE JUST VOTED ON ONCE THAT GREEN SPACE IS GONE.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING? TO PUT YOUR PARKS.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR WATERSHEDS? SO JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT MADE SENSE WHEN WE HAD NO OTHER FUNDING SOURCE, BUT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU STOP STOP SELLING THE GREEN SPACE IF WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL IT.

GREEN SPACES IS A PERTINENT PART OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FUTURE, AS YOU WANT TO SAY, FOR GOING GREEN.

BUT ALSO WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY, AS POPULATION INCREASES, EVENTUALLY BY OUR ORDINANCES OR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKS TO COINCIDE WITH THE POPULATION THAT'S ONLY GETTING BIGGER.

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OVERALL, I SAID I LIKE THIS PLAN OF ATTACK.

OTHER THAN THAT ONE ITEM, HOWEVER.

LET'S NOT MAKE THIS A WISHY WASHY PROPOSAL.

LET'S MAKE IT A REAL STEADFAST PLAN OF ATTACK.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE ONLY REASON WE'RE EVEN CONSIDERING ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND IS BECAUSE THE CITIZENS VOTED TO SPEND $150 MILLION OF THEIR OWN MONEY BECAUSE THE CITY COULDN'T COME UP WITH MECHANISMS TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS ON THEIR OWN.

AND IT'S THE CITIZENS THAT ARE CARRYING IT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO DON'T THINK THAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING GREAT.

THE CITIZENS ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING GREAT.

MY GOVERNMENT DID NOT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THOMAS GUMP, FOLLOWED BY PHIL WEINBERG.

THANK YOU, THOMAS. 1700 LANTANA COURT.

I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY SPEAK WHERE IN TWO HATS.

FIRST, I'LL SPEAK AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD AND THANK THE DEPUTY MAYOR FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.

60 YEARS, THE CITY'S NEVER HAD A ROAD MAINTENANCE PLAN.

NOT UNTIL THE CITIZENS GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED TO SPEND $150 MILLION OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS.

DID WE GET THE ROADS FIXED? MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU HERE.

BECAUSE. CUTTING 4% OF THAT $150 MILLION, THAT $6 MILLION BACK INTO THE ROAD FUND.

THE PEOPLE DESERVE THAT.

THEY PAID THAT MONEY.

THAT'S WHAT IT NEEDS TO GO FOR.

YOU'RE TRYING TO BET ON THE COMMON BET ON THE FUTURE WITH MONEY THAT NEEDS TO GO TO FIXING THE ROADS.

NOW. SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

BUT AS A RESIDENT, THANK YOU AGAIN, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ROAD MAINTENANCE.

WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT OUR CHILDREN TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT WE DEALT WITH IN THE PAST AND ARE STILL FIXING NOW.

SO THANK YOU. YOU.

MR. WEINBERG.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. COUNSEL PHIL WEINBERG 466 SCANLON ROAD.

AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS MENTIONED, AS YOU WELL KNOW, TAXPAYERS ARE SADDLED WITH PAYING $150 MILLION BOND TO FIX THE ROADS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE YOUR PREDECESSORS BASICALLY IGNORED THE ROADS.

THEY EITHER IGNORED THEM OR THEY PAID LIP SERVICE TO HAVING SOME KIND OF A PROGRAM TO REPAIR THE ROADS.

IF WE DON'T ENACT THIS NOW, WE'RE GOING TO FACE THE SAME PROBLEM.

I WON'T. BUT BUT BUT OUR YOUNGER PEOPLE WILL BECAUSE THE ROADS ARE GOING TO FAIL AGAIN.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I ACTUALLY LIKE, WHAT THE CITY MANAGER PROPOSED, IS I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU CHANGE THIS PERHAPS TO TO COMMITTING A MINIMUM OF $4 MILLION A YEAR.

AND AS, AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS SEPARATELY.

AND IF YOU SEE THAT THAT $4 MILLION IN ANY ONE PARTICULAR YEAR IS INSUFFICIENT, YOU CAN COMMIT MORE MONEY TO IT.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU SET A MINIMUM OF $4 MILLION A YEAR TOWARDS THE ROAD PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. YOU.

OKAY. SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, WHAT ABOUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF LOGIC TO.

STILL THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES AND OUR OUR PARKS ARE GREEN SPACE.

SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO I'LL START I'LL START WITH THE MOTION TO START THE CONVERSATION.

SO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND POLICY WITH THE INTENT FOR PRIORITIZING ITEMS ONE AND FOUR SPECIFICALLY ON.

AND. FOLLOWED BY TWO AND THREE.

AND FIVE BECAUSE WELL, LET ME LET ME JUST MAKE MY MOTION FIRST BEFORE WE GO.

ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECOND FOR THIS QUESTION, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN FELIX.

AND THAT'S TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, AND TO THE CITY MANAGERS.

FIVE IS LAST BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT TO TOUCH.

AND THAT'S WHEN I SAY FIVE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SALE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.

THE PRIORITIZING IS LINE ITEM ONE WHERE ANNUAL BUDGET TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND, THAT'S ONE FOR UNEXPECTED GENERAL FUND DOLLARS AT THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND BASED OFF WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER TOLD US, SHE THINKS JUST BETWEEN THOSE TWO WILL MEET WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET.

BUT IF WE DON'T MEET WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET, THEN THAT'S WHEN ITEMS TWO AND THREE COME INTO PLAY.

AND LIKE LOOKING AT THAT, I DON'T SEE HOW WE DON'T MEET IT BY THAT POINT.

SO ITEM FIVE TO ME IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT HAPPENING, BILL, AND I'M WITH YOU BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL 2018, THAT WAS THE

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AND WE WERE AND JUST BEING HONEST, WE WERE PATTING OURSELVES ON THE BACK LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME MONEY INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE, BUT IT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU THERE, SIR, BUT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

SO. HEY, COUNCILMAN FOSTER WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE ANY COMMENTS.

UH, JUST BRIEFLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A ROAD BOND.

WE HAD A ROAD WE GOT A ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

NOW WE GOT A POLICY.

SO I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YOU COULD PLAY WITH FOUR OR FIVE MOVING THAT UP, AND NOW I'M STILL GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YOU CAN'T ACHIEVE NOTHING IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN AND NOW IT SEEM LIKE WE'VE GOT A PLAN.

I'VE SAT THERE AS A CANDIDATE AND AS A CITIZEN OF PALM BAY AND I SAW THE LAST COUPLE OF COUNCILS VOTED ZERO FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE.

ZERO ZERO IN ONE BUDGET AND I WAS ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR WHEN THEY JUST THREW THEIR HANDS UP.

SO WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT AS A COUNCIL.

WE DIDN'T PUT MONEY TOWARDS THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AND WE'VE BEEN STUPID WATCHING HOW WE SPEND THAT THAT BOND.

NOW WE'VE GOT A POLICY.

WE NEED TO APPROVE IT AND MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED IN MARCH, I BASICALLY THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH CITY STAFF WAS, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THE THE ROAD MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THE AUMF? AND SO THESE TYPES ANSWER WAS DEFINITELY NOT MY ONLY SELLING CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

SO I SEE NUMBER FIVE ON HERE.

AND I JUST HAVE TO ASK THE DEPUTY MAYOR, IS THERE ANY CHANCE WE CAN REMOVE NUMBER FIVE? IT WAS AN UNWRITTEN RULE.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT ALL CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT WAS SOLD WENT TO THE AUMF, AND SO IS ANYONE ELSE HERE.

BUT SAY SOMETHING ELSE CAME UP LIKE ANOTHER COUNCIL HAS ANOTHER PRIORITY AT THAT TIME AND IT SAYS, HEY, CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT SOLD SHOULD NOW GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEN THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION FOR THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF HAVING IT AS THE ORDINANCE HERE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY, MY THING WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU, SIR.

I PUT IT, I PUT IT.

THANK YOU, MARY. SORRY. I'M FINE WITH THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TACKLED BETWEEN ITEMS ONE AND FOUR.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF TWO AND THREE ARE NEEDED, THEN BY THEN, IT WILL DEFINITELY BE TACKLED OF HITTING 4 TO 6 MILLION EACH YEAR.

SO I'M FINE WITH MOVING FIVE, BUT IF WE DO SEE IF IT MIGHT BE A LIGHT YEAR, THEN I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET THESE ROADS FIXED.

SO BUT I MEAN, I'LL MEND MY MOTION, SO YOU HAVE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.

IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I WANTED TO MENTION NUMBER FIVE.

WELL, HERE IS THE LOGIC.

I MEAN, HERE'S WHY.

TO ME, NUMBER FIVE, AS YOU KNOW, NUMBER FIVE IS NOT GOING TO BE THE BULK OF OF THE ORDINANCE.

WE'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, DETERMINED THAT TO ME, NUMBER FIVE DOES.

AND I UNDERSTAND MR. BATMAN'S PASSION ABOUT GREEN SPACE.

SO SO EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF AS WELL.

I MEAN, SURPLUS PROPERTIES ARE TYPICALLY RECOMMENDED AS SURPLUS PROPERTIES.

FOR ONE, THE STAFF HAVE A CERTAIN CRITERIA.

THEY GO BY THAT WHAT MAKES A PROPERTY SURPLUS? IT'S EITHER IT'S TOO SMALL TO BUILD A PARK OR THERE IS NO NEED WILL THE IMMEDIATE NEED FOR IT.

AND I'M OKAY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

AND CERTAINLY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHERE THE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE.

IF WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT DOWN THE ROAD, I WOULD.

BUT I'M WILLING TO KEEP IT.

FOR THOSE REASONS.

OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND AND.

I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.

I MEAN, LET ME JUST SAY THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING AND MANY PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN PART OF THIS.

I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 34 YEARS.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, THAT WASN'T A DIRECT FUNDING SOURCE.

AND OUR CITIZENS SEE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO.

AND I'M I'M QUITE PLEASED THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.

AT THE SAME TIME, I AM MOTIVATED AND ENCOURAGED THAT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER WAY WE COULD INDUCE AND ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN ADAMANT ABOUT.

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NORFOLK LANDING, I.E..

SO SO I'M JUST ENCOURAGED THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO HAVE A DIRECT FUNDING SOURCE.

SO IN ALL OF THAT.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

I. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER FOR MRS. JONES. BUT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT YOUR DIRECTION.

STAFF IS REQUESTING A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS VARIOUS TOPICS, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING, INCLUDING THE IMPACT FEES.

THE CURRENT AGENDA MEMO REQUESTS THAT THE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 30TH, BUT IT HAS BEEN RELAYED TO COUNCIL TO CHANGE THAT DATE TO WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 31ST AT 6:00 PM. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

OKAY. I GOT TWO, THREE, FOUR THUMBS UP SO FAR.

HOPEFULLY, COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S GOT A THUMB UP OVER THERE ON THE OTHER LINE.

SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR AUGUST 31ST, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON REPORTS.

I'LL START WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]

412 GRAMS OF 20 GRAMS. 2000 GRAMS OF COCAINE, SIR.

412 GRAMS OF FENTANYL AND 68 GRAMS OF OXYCODONE IN THE HOME.

AND THE OFFICERS ALSO SEIZED MULTIPLE FIREARMS 47,002, TWO BODY ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS.

SO I HAVE TO REALLY THANK PALM BAY SWAT FOR FOR SERVING THAT WARRANT.

THERE WAS NO HARM, NO HARM TO EITHER THE OCCUPANTS INSIDE OR TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

SO THAT WAS A HUGE BUST HERE FOR FOR OUR COUNTY AND FOR OUR CITY.

SO I REALLY JUST WANTED TO GIVE THEM A HIGH PRAISE AND DOING THE GOOD JOB THAT THEY DID.

YEAH. NO ONE WAS HURT AND ALL THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK TO GET TO THAT POINT.

YES, SIR. SO OUTSTANDING JOB, SIR.

NOTHING FURTHER FROM OUR REPORT, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THANK YOU. MINE WILL BE BRIEF.

I JUST WANT TO.

WELCOME THE THE SILLER FAMILY.

THEY WERE THE RECIPIENT OF A BRAND NEW HOME FROM HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

THIS LAST MONDAY, I WAS YOU KNOW, I REPRESENTED THE CITY AND THE JOY THE THE OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT THAT WHO WERE PRESENT AND HOW THEY BRIDE WILL THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY TAKE THE TIME TO TO THANK US AND EXTEND THEIR YOU KNOW, GRATEFULNESS TO OUR CITY STAFF OR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THAT DID PARTICIPATE TO THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THAT NEW HOME.

AND AND WELL, IT WAS SUCH A REALLY PROUD, PROUD MOMENT FOR ME AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY TO BE PART OF THAT CELEBRATION WHERE THAT FAMILY RECEIVED THE BRAND NEW HOME.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I SHARE THAT WITH ALL STAFF AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS WHEN WE COLLABORATE WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS PUBLIX.

WELLS FARGO ARE THE TWO COMPANIES I WORK FOR GREAT, GREAT PARTNERS FOR COMMUNITY.

BUT IT WAS REALLY, TRULY A GREAT MOMENT.

I WAS VERY HAPPY FOR THAT FAMILY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I I'M THE RECOGNITION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. FELIX.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT MY HEALTH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR SENDING YOUR PRAYERS.

AND I WAS UNDER THE WEATHER.

I'VE BEEN MISSING IN ACTION.

I HAD A REALLY, REALLY BAD EYE INFECTION FOR THE LAST ALMOST 14 DAYS.

BEEN GOING TO THE DOCTOR, THE VA E.R.

ROOM, AND IT CAN ALL KIND OF ANTIBIOTICS TO TRY TO GET BACK TO NORMAL.

THEN I FEEL I'M NOT IN PAIN TODAY.

THE FIRST YESTERDAY AND TODAY, THE FIRST TWO DAYS OUT OF THE 12 DAYS, I WASN'T IN EXCRUCIATING PAIN AND STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT CAUSED IT.

IT DIDN'T COME FROM TOUCHING ANYTHING.

FROM WHAT THEY TOLD ME IS MORE INTERNAL.

SO I'M NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET.

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THANK YOU. THE STAFF AND COUNCIL FOR HELPING ME OUT.

GOD BLESS YOU. AND WE BELIEVE HEALING OVER YOUR EYE AND OVER YOUR YOUR HEALTH, SIR.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

NOTHING TO ADD.

SO I'LL START WITH I'M APPOINTING MR. LOGAN LUCE TO THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD.

AND THEN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, TOMORROW WE WILL HAVE OUR MAYORS BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I ALSO AM EXCITED THAT ON MARCH 29TH WE'RE GOING TO MISS LUNCH MONDAY, MARCH 29TH.

THE SPACE INDUSTRY IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO US HERE LOCALLY, BUT IN PALM BAY.

AND IDEALLY, WE'RE GOING TO START CREATING SOME JOBS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE PALM BAY YEARS WORK.

THEN I WANT TO INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

SO OUR VERY FIRST SEPTEMBER 11TH EVENT, THE MEMORIAL WILL BE RIGHT HERE FROM THE CITY HALL AT NOON.

I KNOW PARKS AND REC HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND AND. RUMOR IS WE WE MAY HAVE ONE OF THE SURVIVORS FROM SEPTEMBER 11TH, FDNY RETIREE.

SO I'M HOPING THAT DOES MANIFEST.

IT'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALL COME TOGETHER AND AND REMEMBER THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST AND ALSO REMEMBER THE RESILIENCY OF THIS GREAT NATION.

WHEN WE FACE ADVERSITY TOGETHER, WE WE CAME TOGETHER.

SO JUST THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY REPORTS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH IN FRONT OF CITY HALL AT NOON, AND NOW FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS.

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:]

JUST TWO QUICK ITEMS. ONE IS A REMINDER ONCE AGAIN, THAT WE HAVE OUR FIRST WORKSHOP FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR PUBLIC WORKSHOP.

IT'S NEXT THURSDAY, AUGUST 25TH, IN THIS ROOM AT 6 P.M..

SO WE ENCOURAGE AS MANY PEOPLE AS ARE INTERESTED, COME OUT AND JOIN US, WATCH ONLINE, ETC..

ALSO, JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND WELCOME TO ERIC ESTEVEZ, WHO IS OUR A NEW GOVERNMENT RELATIONS MANAGER IN THE BACK.

SO ERIC, WELCOME. GLAD TO HAVE YOU.

I BELIEVE COUNCIL IS MET.

SO ERIC, COME ON UP AND SAY HELLO.

CAN I HAVE HIM? COME ON.

ABSOLUTELY. COME ON UP.

ERIC, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.

WE'RE WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGED THAT YOU THAT YOU JOINED US, SIR.

NOW I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S A TREMENDOUS HONOR TO BE HERE.

AND I CAN TRULY SAY THAT THERE'S NO CITY THAT'S BETTER REPRESENTED THAN PALM BAY.

WE HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY, AND WE HAVE GREAT CITIZENS, TOO.

THE STRENGTH OF ANY COMMUNITY IS THE CIVIC PARTICIPATION OF A CITIZENS.

AND IT'S NICE TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE TODAY AND TO TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN GOVERNMENT AND ME.

I COME FROM A GOVERNMENT BACKGROUND.

I'M A FORMER STATE LEGISLATOR AND I COME FROM AN EDUCATION BACKGROUND.

I WAS AN EDUCATOR FOR A LONG TIME.

I WORKED AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED IN PUBLIC SERVICE IN SOME CAPACITY.

AND I LOVE THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND I'M JUST SO HONORED TO BE HERE.

AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS.

AND I'M JUST VERY THANKFUL AND I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT I'M A TEAM PLAYER AND I HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY AND I WANT TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY.

DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU ARE.

WE'RE ALL PART OF THIS TEAM AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO WHERE IS THAT ACCENT FROM? WELL, YEAH, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S I'M TRYING TO GET RID OF THIS ACCENT.

IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

OH, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT YEAH, I LIVED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A VERY SMALL STATE UP IN NEW ENGLAND, THE SIZE OF THE STATE GEOGRAPHICALLY, LIKE THE SIZE OF COUNTIES IN OTHER PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY.

SO I LIVED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT I WAS ONLY 30 MINUTES FROM BOSTON.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD SAY IT'S A BOSTON ACCENT.

MAYBE EVENTUALLY I'LL LOSE IT AND HAVE A PALM BAY ACCENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING FOR. SO, SO.

AND I TAKE IT YOU LIKE BASEBALL? I DO LOVE BASEBALL.

I LOVE ALL SPORTS, THOUGH.

I'M A SPORTS FAN.

I KNOW. I KNOW. I KIND OF ANTICIPATE WHAT THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, BUT GO AHEAD.

YES, SIR. YOU KNOW WHAT THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE BEING FROM BOSTON.

YEAH. AM I A RED SOX OR YANKEE FAN? YES, SIR. WELL, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.

I'M A SPORTS FAN.

BUT BUT BUT I WILL SAY I WILL I WILL SAY OBVIOUSLY I'M A LITTLE BIASED.

I'M A RED SOX FAN BECAUSE I'M FROM BOSTON, BUT I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR THE NEW YORK YANKEES.

AND I WANT TO TELL YOU WHY.

GEORGE STEINBRENNER WAS A GREAT AMERICAN.

HE SERVED IN THE US MILITARY AND I JUST LOVE THE WAY THAT HE MAKES SURE THAT HIS PLAYERS ARE WELL DISCIPLINED, THEY ARE CLEAN CUT AND THEY SHOW

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AND THAT'S ONE THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE NEW YORK YANKEES.

THEY'RE TRUE PROFESSIONALS.

WELL, I WANT TO APPRECIATE YOU JOINING THE TEAM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ENTERTAINING US FOR A LITTLE BIT WITH YOUR ACCENT.

AND WELCOME ABOARD AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

THANK YOU. MRS..

MR. SMITH. MADAM SMITH.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, I NEED TO SEEK YOUR ADVICE CONCERNING THE FOLLOWING LITIGATION MATTER.

PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO 86.011 SUBSECTION EIGHT FLORIDA STATUTES.

JESSICA PARMENTER VERSUS CITY OF PALM BAY.

CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE 2020 2CA043617.

I HAVE COORDINATED A TIME WHEN COUNSEL WAS AVAILABLE THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2022, AT 5:30 P.M..

THE MEETING SHALL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 30 MINUTES.

ATTENDEES WILL BE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN.

CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH AND DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO NOW WHAT? ANY SPEAKERS? DEPUTY MAYOR, MISS FLORIDA.

I THINK SHE LEFT.

ALL RIGHT. BUTCHER RAN NATHAN WHITE, THEN THOMAS GONE.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

PUT AROUND TO 19 TRENTON.

I'M GOING TO WEAR THE LONG PANTS FROM NOW ON.

THIS PLACE IS FREEZING ON THE 20 K LIMITS ON THE ROADS.

WHO'S GOING TO BE ENFORCING THAT OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT? IS IT GOING TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT? IT WOULD BE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT WOULD BE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO THEY HAVE PORTABLE SCALES THAT TRUCKS CAN PULL UP ON.

AND 20 KS.

NOT A WHOLE LOT. I'M THINKING OF CEMENT TRUCKS GOING TO BE WAY OVER 20 K.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO WITH THAT? YOU WON'T STOP CONSTRUCTION.

GOING TO ENFORCE THE RULE OR WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? I DID NOTICE THAT OUR ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

YES. SO WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THAT.

OKAY. MY IN-LAWS LIVE IN ABILENE, TEXAS, THE CITY UP THERE. THEY HAD A STRIP MALL THAT WAS CLOSED.

THE CITY BOUGHT IT, THE WHOLE STRIP MALL.

THEY PUT IN A CITY COURTHOUSE.

THEY PUT IN A POLICE STATION, A FIRE STATION, A.

I THINK IT WAS COLD. AND ANYHOW, THEY PUT ALL THESE BUSINESSES IN THERE AND IT WAS RIGHT ON THE MAIN DRAG.

THERE'S ONE SITTING EMPTY UP ON JUPITER RIGHT NOW.

QUITE A FEW EMPTY STORES IN IT.

JUST SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.

YES. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

X ELEVATION ON THE HOUSING.

HOW IS HOW IS THAT INVESTIGATION GOING? BECAUSE I'M GETTING ALL KIND OF STORIES FROM EVERYBODY FROM IT'S THE BUILDERS, IT'S THE SEPTIC THING, GUYS.

IT'S THE CITY, IT'S THE COUNTY, IT'S EVERYBODY.

BUT NO ONE CAN SAY, THIS IS WHY THIS HOUSE IS SIX FEET.

RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS TWO FEET.

STILL CAN'T FIND THAT ANSWER ANYWHERE.

I APOLOGIZE.

FRANK WATANABE. YEAH, I'VE TALKED WITH HIM, BUT I'LL, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AND SEE.

I KNOW THE LAST I TALKED TO HIM, HE WAS STILL ACTUALLY WAITING FOR RESPONSES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ON SOME OF HIS QUESTIONS.

THE LATEST STORY I GOT WAS THE IT'S THE IF THERE'S A 33% BUILD ON A STREET, THEY HAVE TO GO TO THIS AEROBIC TYPE SEPTIC TANK. BUT I CAN'T FIND WHERE THAT'S WRITTEN ANYWHERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NATHAN WHITE, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS GO.

BY NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK QUICKLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T EXPECT TO HAVE TWO THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT WITH REGARDS TO WHAT COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO MENTIONED ABOUT THE DRUG BUST, I JUST WANT TO IT CAN'T BE EMPHASIZED ENOUGH HOW SERIOUS THAT IS AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS SAID IT WAS 412.7.

I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE PALM BAY PD'S FACEBOOK POST ABOUT IT.

412.7 GRAMS OF FENTANYL.

APPROXIMATELY 2 TO 3 MILLIGRAMS OF FENTANYL CAN CAUSE A DEADLY OVERDOSE.

THAT MEANS THAT WAS ENOUGH FENTANYL IN ONE BUST TO KILL OVER 137,000 PEOPLE.

SO BRAVO TO PALM BAY PD.

THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS DRUG, AND I'M GLAD THAT'S OFF.

THAT AMOUNT IS OFF THE STREET.

THE OTHER THING IS. I AM.

I. DEEPLY DISTURBED THAT IT SEEMED PERCEPTION WISE, THAT IT WAS ONLY JUST TONIGHT THAT COUNCIL REALIZED THAT WE'D SPENT ALL OF THE

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ONE OR TWO OF OUR THREE MISSING FIRE STATIONS.

I THINK I'M FORGETTING.

I THINK SOME WAS ALLOCATED TO STATION SEVEN IF I COULD HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS AS A QUESTION.

AND ALSO LASTLY, I'M GOING THROUGH FASTER THAN I THOUGHT.

LASTLY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IN PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WAS BEING CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 15TH.

I'M WONDERING WHY IT IS THAT ACCORDING TO THE.

CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN CITY HALL AND THE DEVELOPER.

WE'VE KNOWN THAT THIS RESOLUTION WASN'T GOING TO BE VOTED ON AT TONIGHT'S MEETING SINCE AUGUST 4TH.

IT WAS AUGUST 16TH, TUESDAY MORNING THAT THE OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING WAS SENT OVER BY JAKE WISE. BUT ALSO IT WAS AUGUST 4TH AT 1:37 P.M.

WHERE THEY REQUESTED IT BE CONTINUED TO THE SEPTEMBER 1ST MEETING.

THAT MEANS IT'S BEEN SINCE AUGUST 4TH THAT WE KNEW IT WASN'T GOING TO BE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, AND YET THAT WASN'T AMENDED AT ALL UNTIL THE MEETING BEGAN.

SO SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

THE FUNDING FOR THE FIRE STATION FROM ARPA FUNDS AND CONTINUATION TIMING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW BY BILL BATTEN.

PHARMACY 1700 LANTANA COURT.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SAME THING UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, NUMBER EIGHT, THAT WAS TABLED AND RESCHEDULED.

I JUST WANTED I'M KIND OF HAPPY IT HAPPENED THAT WAY BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS.

RIGHT NOW, THE CITIES SAID WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OVER 150 RV LOTS.

AND FRED POPPI PARK.

WHAT THIS PLAN CALLS FOR IS OVER 150 RV PARKS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM FRED POPPY PARK.

NOW I'VE HEARD IT SAID THAT THE DEVELOPER.

SAYS HE DON'T MIND.

I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.

I WAS A BUSINESS OWNER.

I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE CHAMBER HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SCENARIO.

IS THE CITY HAS THE POWER.

TO LEGISLATE HIM OUT OF BUSINESS OR HIS RV PARK.

THE CITY CAN ALSO RUN THEIR RV PARK AT A LOSS WHERE THE BUSINESS CAN'T.

IT'S AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE TO USE ONE OR THE OTHER.

BOTH CAN COEXIST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

BILL BATTEN. THE BATMAN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST TO ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE WAS WHEN I SAID IT'S THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT, NOT RUN OUR LIVES.

WELL, THE THING THAT THAT COMES INTO PLAY IS SMOKING.

YET. ON THE 4TH OF JULY, WE GENERATE MORE SMOKE OF MORE TOXIC THAN YOU COULD EVEN THINK ABOUT, CONSIDERING WHAT YOU INHALE WHEN YOU WALK BY SOMEBODY VAPING THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE IN THAT BURNED, BURNED GUNPOWDER AND THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENT COLORING, THAT SMOKE IS SO TOXIC THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO STAY IN THE ROOM WITH IT.

BUT WE THINK THAT'S OKAY.

AND I MEAN, IT'S TALK AND WE'RE TALKING TONNAGE, I MEAN, LITERALLY TONNAGE OF SMOKE ASH EVERY 4TH OF JULY.

THEY DON'T CONSIDER REGULATING THAT.

SO IT'S VERY HYPOCRITICAL OF GOVERNMENT.

AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.

I WANT THIS TO BE HEARD BECAUSE I HOPE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO SEE IT.

YOU CAN'T REGULATE ME.

AND SAY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO GOOD AND YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT ME WHEN YOU DO ONE THING ON ONE HAND AND THEN DO SOMETHING THAT'S JUST CONTRADICTORY, YOU'RE HYPOCRITICAL IN APPROACHES LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THEM IS, I'M TRYING TO JAM MY BELIEFS DOWN YOUR THROAT, AND THE OTHER ONE IS SAYING, BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD CAUSE.

IT'S VERY HYPOCRITICAL.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

I HOPE SOMEBODY HEARS THAT OUT THERE FROM POLITICIANS THAT ARE PASSING STUPID LAWS LIKE THIS.

NUMBER TWO.

I FEEL REAL BAD ABOUT THIS ONE, AND I MEAN THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

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I NOW KNOW, AND I'M I'M EMPATHETIC TOWARDS HIS DILEMMA, BUT THE CDC HAS LIFTED OUR COVID REQUIREMENTS.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL AND POLITICIANS START GETTING BACK TO BEING IN CHAMBERS WHEN THEY'RE VOTING ON STUFF.

TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE JUST VOTED WHERE THE PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN COME IN FROM THEIR HOME STATES TO SPEND MY TAX DOLLAR MONEY.

AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER COMING IN TO CAST A VOTE.

COVID'S OVER.

WE'RE BACK IN.

LET'S TRY TO GET BACK TO HOLDING OUR MEETINGS IN CHAMBERS WHERE THE PEOPLE CAN SEE OUR OUR ELECTED POLITICIANS.

THAT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS HEARING HOW THEY VOTE OF YAY OR NAY.

IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT.

BUT I WASN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

BUT THEN THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, IT WAS PERTINENT THAT WE GET BACK, WE STOP USING COVID POLICIES ON HOW WE RUN BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS. THAT'S DONE.

CDC LIFTED THE STANDARDS, SO NOW LET'S BE PRESENT.

YOU'RE ENTITLED TO MISS MEETINGS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M ALSO.

HAPPY THAT WE'RE HERE NOW AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT BY PHONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

MR. MAYOR. RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOK STREET NORTHEAST.

VERY NICE TO BE IN YOUR PRESENCE THIS EVENING.

I COME TO YOU NOT JUST PALM BAY PROUD, BUT I AM PALM BAY.

HI. PROUD. NOW I KNOW I GOT A COUPLE OF BEARS UP THERE ON THE DYAS.

THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ME CROOKED.

BUT THIS IS ALL PIRATE TALK THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CELEBRATE THE LAUNCH OF THE FIRE PROGRAM AT PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR OUR COMMUNITY NOW.

NOW, THIS OFFICER IS GOING TO KILL ME FOR FOR SHARING IT, BUT I NEED TO SHARE A STORY WITH YOU.

FOR YEARS, PALM BAY HIGH HAS HAD THE LAW ACADEMY.

I WAS A STUDENT AT THE LAW ACADEMY.

AND LAW ACADEMY ALSO NOT ONLY MAKES YOU AWARE OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, BUT DIVES INTO PUBLIC POLICY.

IT'S DEFINITELY WHAT LED ME INTO FURTHER PUBLIC POLICY CLASSES AT PCC, AS I'LL ALWAYS CALL IT, LED ME TO FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY TO GAIN IN MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE. I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT I'M AS AN INVOLVED CITIZEN AS I AM BECAUSE OF THE TIME THAT I SPENT IN THE HALLS OF PALM BAY HIGH IN THE LAW ACADEMY.

ONE OF MY CLASSMATES, STILL ONE OF MY VERY GOOD FRIENDS TO THIS DAY, IS A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF RYAN AUSTIN.

OFFICER RYAN AUSTIN FOR OUR PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO'S A COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER WHO HEADS UP OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WHO DRIVES THE FROSTY FIVE-O WHO IS IS IS A FACE OF MANY OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME UP THROUGH PALM BAY HIS LAW ACADEMY.

THAT IS A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE OF WHAT PALM BAY HIS LAW ACADEMY PROGRAM BROUGHT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW IMAGINE WHAT WE WILL SEE AND WHO WE WILL GET IN TEN, 15, 20 MORE YEARS FROM THIS FIRE PROGRAM.

THE ENTIRE COUNTY IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR PALM BAY, THE PRIDE THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS HAVE, THAT OFFERED AN OPTION TO BE ABLE TO COME UP AND LEARN WHETHER THEY BECOME FIREFIGHTERS OR THEY BECOME FIRE ENGINEERS.

THEY MIGHT BECOME A FIRE MARSHAL.

WORSE COMES TO WORSE. I TOOK CONSTRUCTION, TOO.

I'M NOT A CARPENTER, BUT I OPERATE A TOOL SAFELY.

MAYBE I'LL JUST BE A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN.

SO THE IMPACT THAT PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL HOME OF THE PIRATES HAS ON OUR COMMUNITY IS A BIG DEAL.

I LOVE PALM BAY AS MUCH AS I LOVE FORD NOW.

I'M PALM BAY PROUD FOR ALL YOU GUYS, FOR THE FACT THAT THE COMMUNITY OF LAMAR COMES UP HERE, SHARES WITH YOU THEIR CONCERNS.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, MY FIRST YEAR BACK HERE IN MY HOMETOWN WAS SPENT AT MY IN-LAWS IN LAMAR NEVILLE CIRCLE AT THE END OF WHERE HER IT TURNS INTO FIGHTING AND IT TURNS INTO NESBITT THIS AFFECTED AREA.

I DIDN'T PLAN TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO LET THOSE FOLKS THAT STILL LIVE THERE BE THE ONES THAT SAID IT.

BUT WHEN THEY SAID IT AND THEY SAID THEY HAD THE PROBLEM, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU GUYS SAID WE'RE ON IT.

THAT WAS AMAZING.

THAT WAS GREAT. AND I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU ALL.

WE'RE ON IT. WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE IT NOW.

MAKE SURE YOU HOLD THAT PINEAPPLE COVE TO THE FIRE, BECAUSE WE GET THESE ENGINEERS THAT COME UP HERE AND THEY SAY THAT THESE NEW PROJECTS, THEY DON'T FALL WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE SCHOOLS. AND THE SCHOOLS ARE OVERPOPULATED.

BUT DON'T WORRY, WE HAVE A CHARTER SCHOOL THAT WANTS TO EXPAND.

I KNOW THEY'RE ALLUDING TO PINEAPPLE COVE.

IF PINEAPPLE COVE WANTS TO EXPAND IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE FIVE, SIX, SEVEN CAMPUSES, THEY NEED TO WORK THIS PROBLEM OUT AND LOCK MORE PRONTO.

SO THAT'S THE BIG MESSAGE THERE.

ASIDE FROM THAT, ALSO VERY PROUD FOR WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE OFF OF PHALEN PROJECT.

NOW, I WAS HERE IN VIRTUAL SENSE BECAUSE I WANTED ALL THOSE SEATS TO BE FILLED BY THOSE CITIZENS.

I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO GET A SEAT IF I CAME, BUT I WATCHED VIRTUALLY.

I'M VERY PROUD THAT YOU GUYS HEARD THOSE CITIZENS AND I STOOD AS THE LONE NAY VOTE AT THE MEETING.

BUT I'M NOT SO LONELY ANYMORE.

I'M IN YOUR COMPANY. THANK YOU, FOLKS.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? EVENING. I'M FROM JERSEY AND I HAD A HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH IT.

BUT MAN, LISTEN, FUTURE LAND USE.

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS A WHILE AND I JUST WANT TO PLANT A SEED HERE FOR WHAT YOU MAY BE THINKING.

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THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO RAISE OUR LENDING FEES WHICH HAVE WHICH DIRECTLY IMPACTS FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT APARTMENTS GOING UP.

THE RENT IS 1700 TO 2300.

NOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN A FUTURE LAND USE, BUT I'M CURIOUS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS NOW.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US? WHAT KIND OF BUILDINGS IN THAT? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT? I DON'T KNOW OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM YOU. SO WHAT IS IT? AND ARE YOU GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT IN THE MEETING ON THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY? THAT'S IN 25TH. DOES IT EXIST OUT HERE? I'M NOT SEEING IT.

YOU KNOW, I SEE TWO COP CARS PARKED AT A HOUSE AND I'M THINKING THEY'VE GOT TO SHARE THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MAKING THE MONEY THEY NEED FOR TO KEEP THE LIFESTYLE. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE WHERE YOU WORK.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT GETTING AS BAD AS VAIL AND ASPEN.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THAT CRAZINESS OUT IN COLORADO, BUT I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS.

MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD YOU GUYS CAN EXPLAIN IT TO ME.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK BEFORE US? CNN. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.