Aug 24, 2022 Sustainability Board

VERY PERSUASIVE. ALL RIGHT.

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MS.. SOROS, MAY YOU GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL.

CHAIR PERSON BYRD.

VICE CHAIRPERSON SNYDER HERE.

REMEMBER SMITH.

MEMBER ZIEGLER.

HERE. MEMBER LOOSE.

MEMBER CONNOLLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND NOW TRANSITION TO PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WE HAVE TONIGHT.

VERY EXCITED. AND SO WOULD YOU WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY OUR FIRST SPEAKER? MR. BILL BATTEN.

GILBERT IN 586, I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, THE BOARD AFTER PRESENTATION NUMBER TWO THOUGH, INSTEAD OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. JUST TO STAY WITH PROTOCOL.

I'M SPEAKING SHEET IS FOR PRESENTATION ITEM NUMBER TWO, NOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MR. SNYDER? YES, MA'AM.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON, SINCE WE DO HAVE A GOOD PUBLIC SHOWING, I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON WHO WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT BUT DOESN'T KNOW REALLY THE PROTOCOL IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD TO BE SUBMITTED.

SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE AND THEN FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK LATER.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND YOU CAN GRAB A CARD FROM THE THE.

IF THAT THAT THING IN THE BACK RACK RACK THANK YOU.

AND YOU JUST PUT YOUR INFORMATION THERE AND YOU CAN BRING IT UP TO MS..

ROSE OVER HERE. AND THEN WE WILL CALL ON YOU.

IF I MAY ASK. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HAVEN'T DONE PUBLIC COMMENT PER ITEM.

THE WAY THAT OUR COMMITTEES BEEN SET UP IS THERE'S JUST ONE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BASED ON MR. BARTON'S COMMENT. WE CAN WE CHANGE THAT FORMAT.

BOARDS. IT'S USUALLY AT THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION IF THE CHAIR WANTS TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER EACH ITEM.

SO YOU CAN DO THAT IF THAT'S DESIRE.

YOU CAN ALSO JUST.

TO SPEAK ON. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

PERFECT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT FOR THIS EVENING.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CHANGE OF PLANS, BUT WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER EACH PRESENTATION.

AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY PRESENTATIONS, ONE FROM THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY AND ONE FROM OUR VERY OWN STAFF

[PRESENTATIONS:]

AND SO I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

SO ON THE CARD, WE'LL JUST INDICATE.

ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST PRESENTATION FROM REBECCA ZIEGLER AND JANE HIGGINS FROM THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S A LOT OF MEMBERS HERE FROM THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY THAT ARE PALM BAY RESIDENTS, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF OUR CHAPTER.

OUR CHAPTER IS SOUTH BREVARD OR THE MAJORITY IS GOING TO BE PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

SO THEY WANTED TO COME HERE, THIS GREAT TALK FROM DR.

TELHAMI. SO, AS YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS JANE.

I'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS IN PALM BAY AND SIX YEARS INVOLVED WITH THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY AS THEIR TREASURER.

WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, I PLANTED ALL ORNAMENTAL STUFF AT ALL DIED.

THEN I REALIZED THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO GO.

SO NOW MY YARD IS NOT ORNAMENTAL.

I GOT RID OF ALL THE GRASS.

SO THIS PRESENTATION WAS ONE DEVELOPED BY DR.

DOUG PTOLEMY.

HE'S PROFESSOR OF TERMINOLOGY AND WILDLIFE ECOLOGY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE.

HE'S GOT SOME GREAT WEBSITES AND REFERENCES I'LL BE GOING OVER, BUT HE'S LIKE THE GURU.

HE'S OUR FATHER GURU, SO TO SPEAK.

HE SINCE HE DOES LIVE UP NORTH, THE REFERENCES ARE A LITTLE OHIO, DELAWARE.

BUT DON'T LET THAT DETER YOU.

THEY APPLY EVERYWHERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET GOING HERE WITH THIS PRESENTATION.

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SO WE'LL BE SPEEDING ALONG WITH THIS THING VIBRATES WHEN YOU DO IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A SHOCK THERE.

SO BIRDERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD WILL RECOGNIZE THIS BEAUTIFUL CREATURE AS THE RESPLENDENT QUETZAL.

IT'S AN ENDANGERED BIRD FROM CENTRAL AMERICA.

IT'S ENDANGERED BECAUSE IT HAS A VERY SPECIALIZED DIET OF WILD AVOCADOS.

AND MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN IN CENTRAL AMERICA.

SO TO SAVE THIS BIRD, PEOPLE ARE PLANTING THE WILD AVOCADOS TO SAVE JAGUARS.

THERE'S A PARTICULAR SPECIES OF POEMS THAT MAKE A PARTICULAR TYPE OF PALM NUT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FAVORITE FOOD OF PECCARY IS THE JAGUARS REQUIRED FOOD? SO THE CASE THAT DR.

TELHAMI IS MAKING IS THAT SPECIAL SPECIALIZATION IN THE NATURAL WORLD, ESPECIALLY FOOD, SPECIAL SPECIALIZATION IS THE RULE RATHER THAN THE EXCEPTION, AND THAT THAT EXISTS EVERYWHERE.

THAT SPECIALIZATION, WE'RE JUST NOT AWARE OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE RATHER OBLIVIOUS IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL WORLD HERE MOST OF THE TIME.

BUT THIS IS THE CASE THAT HE'S TRYING TO MAKE, AND IT ALWAYS STARTS WITH PLANTS.

MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT SPECIALIZATION ONLY APPLIES TO TROPICS, BUT IT REALLY APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE GLOBE.

SO HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

THIS IS THE BEAUTIFUL.

HI, GUYS. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL FLOCKS THAT CAN ONLY BE POLLINATED BY ONE TYPE OF INSECT.

AND HOW IS THAT? BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THIS POOR LITTLE BEE CAN'T GET ITS TONGUE DOWN INTO THAT LONG, TUBULAR THING.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THOSE POLLINATED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF MOTH AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF MOTH IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS KIND OF CATERPILLAR AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS KIND OF CATERPILLAR WITHOUT CORAL HONEYSUCKLE TO EAT.

SO THE ENTIRE ANIMAL WORLD IS BASED ON VERY SPECIFIC PLANTS, AND WE'VE JUST KIND OF GOTTEN OBLIVIOUS TO THAT.

SO EVEN ANIMALS WE DON'T THINK OF AS HAVING SPECIALIZED RELATIONSHIPS OFTEN DO.

SO NOW HE'S GOING TO MAKE THE CASE WITH CHICKADEES, AS ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH CHICKADEES, ANYBODY FROM UP NORTH, YOU'D HAVE TO BE FROM UP NORTH.

SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ABOUT CHICKADEES, IT ALSO APPLIES HERE.

SO THERE ARE VERY SMALL BIRD.

THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER THAN MOST OF OUR BIRDS.

BUT IT'S A VERY DRAMATIC EXAMPLE.

EVERYONE THINKS OF CHICKADEES AS SEED EATERS, AND THEY DO EAT SEEDS DURING THE WINTER BECAUSE THEY'RE UP NORTH.

BUT WHEN THEY MAKE BABIES, THEY FEED THEIR CHICKS, INSECTS, AND NOT JUST ANY INSECT.

THEY SPECIALIZE ON CATERPILLARS.

ALL DAY LONG, THEY BRING THESE CATERPILLARS TO THE NEST.

AND IT'S A CONSTANT, CONSTANT THING.

AND IT COULD BE WONDER, WHY DO THEY BRING CATERPILLARS? IS IT BECAUSE THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL? AND THESE ARE A LOT OF GORGEOUS PHOTOS OF CATERPILLARS.

IT'S BECAUSE CATERPILLARS ARE SOFT AND THEY'RE FULL OF PROTEIN AND FATS.

THEY'RE VERY HIGH IN WHAT IS KNOWN AS CAROTENOIDS.

WE HAVE ANY SCIENCE PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BUTCHER THESE SCIENCE TERMS, I'M SURE.

SO DON'T YOU KNOW, JUST.

I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CAROTENOIDS.

SO THAT'S HERE'S THE SCIENTIFIC SIDE OF CAROTENOIDS.

BUT CAROTENOIDS HAVE MANY OF THESE TYPES OF PROTEINS IN THEM THAT ARE CRITICAL TO BABY BIRD DEVELOPMENT.

IF THEY DON'T GET THIS KIND OF.

PROTEIN. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DEVELOP SEXUALLY.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DEVELOP THEIR COLORS, THEIR VISION, THEIR VITALITY, ALL THESE THINGS THEY HAVE TO GET FROM JUICY CATERPILLARS.

SO CHICKADEES CAN'T MAKE THOSE CAROTENOIDS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EAT ENOUGH PLANTS.

THEY DON'T EVEN EAT PLANTS.

SO THEY HAVE TO EAT SOMETHING THAT EATS PLANTS, WHICH ARE INSECTS AND CATERPILLARS.

THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH CAROTENOIDS ARE IN VARIOUS TYPES OF INSECTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE CATERPILLARS ON THE LEFT ARE DEFINITELY THE MOST THERE ARE THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN OR CAROTENOIDS.

NOW, LOTS OF OTHER BUGS HAVE THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS THOSE JUICY CATERPILLARS.

SO. THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE CATERPILLARS, THE BABY BIRDS.

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BOTH MALES AND FEMALES FORAGE ALL DAY LONG.

THEY BRING BACK FOOD ALMOST EVERY 3 MINUTES TO THESE BIRDS.

AND HAS ANYBODY HEARD BABY BIRDS SQUAWKING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN YOUR YARD IF YOU HAVE A NICE BIG OAK TREE? WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE ALWAYS HUNGRY.

EVERY 3 MINUTES, THEY GET IT'S CONSTANT.

SO WHAT'S AMAZING IS THIS CALCULATION THAT HE'S DONE HERE.

AND AT 3 HOURS, THEY BROUGHT BACK 17 DIFFERENT SPECIES, ALL COLLECTED WITHIN 50 FEET OF THE NEST.

THAT'S SO THAT MEANS THERE'S GOT TO BE THE TREES AND THE WILDLIFE TO SUPPORT THE CATERPILLARS CLOSE BY.

SO TO RAISE A NEST OF BABY CHICKADEES AND REMEMBER, CHICKADEES ARE SMALLER THAN YOUR AVERAGE BIRD.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX 570 CATERPILLARS PER DAY FOR 16 DAYS BEFORE THE BIRDS CAN LEAVE.

SO THAT 6 TO 9000 CATERPILLARS TO RAISE ONE LITTLE NEST OF BIRDS LIKE A NEST DOES ON AVERAGE.

THREE BIRDS, MAYBE MAX FOUR.

SO THAT'S LIKE A LOT A LOT OF CATERPILLARS TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND.

NOW, THESE ARE THE BIRDS THAT ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH US.

THE RED BELLIED WOODPECKER WEIGHS EIGHT TIMES MORE THAN A CHICKADEE.

SO ALL THAT MATH ON THE PRIOR PAGE, YOU HAVE TO MULTIPLY TIMES EIGHT BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT.

AND I THINK THE WOODPECKER WAY IS ABOUT THE SAME AS OUR BLUE JAY, THE CARDINAL.

SOME OF THESE OTHER LOCAL BIRDS ARE ALL BIGGER THAN THE CHICKADEE, BASICALLY BECAUSE THE CHICKADEE IS A VERY SMALL BIRD.

EVEN HUMMINGBIRDS EAT A LOT OF INSECTS.

SO IT ALL GETS DOWN TO THE INSECTS.

AND WHAT DO THE INSECTS NEED TO SURVIVE? SO WHAT DR. TELHAMI DID IS HE PROVED THAT 96% OF OUR BIRD SPECIES REAR THEIR YOUNG ON INSECTS, MOSTLY CATERPILLARS. ALL THESE BIRD TYPES HAVE TO HAVE CATERPILLARS.

SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY CATERPILLARS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BABY BIRDS.

THE PICTURE AND THE LEFT IS A BIRD NEST THAT THE BABY BIRDS DIED BECAUSE ALL THE PARENTS HAD TO BRING THEM WAS BIRD SEED.

SO EVEN THOUGH BIRD SEED IS GOOD TO HAVE IN YOUR YARD FOR THE ADULTS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE BABY BIRDS AT ALL.

THEY CANNOT EAT IT.

THEY CAN'T DIGEST IT.

THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE THE FAT, JUICY CAROTENOID.

CATERPILLARS OK.

SO WHAT TYPES OF LANDSCAPES ARE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING SUCH INSECT DIVERSITY? WELL, YOU HAVE TO GET BACK TO THOSE SPECIALIZED RELATIONSHIPS AGAIN THAT WE STARTED OUT WITH OK.

PLANTS DON'T WANT TO BE EATEN AMAZINGLY, BUT THEY'VE DEVELOPED A CHEMISTRY OVER THE YEARS THAT HELPS THEM SPECIALIZE.

AND THE GREAT EXAMPLE HE GOES THROUGH WITH THIS IS THE MONARCH BUTTERFLIES, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW MONARCH BUTTERFLIES LIKE MILKWEED.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL THEY EAT.

THAT IS THEIR PRIMARY FOOD SOURCE.

SO IF MILKWEED GOES AWAY, SO DO MONARCH BUTTERFLIES GO.

BUT HOW DO THEY EAT THE MILKWEED? BECAUSE YOU AS ANYONE'S SEEN MILKWEED AND IT'S GOT THIS LIKE MILKY GOOEY SUBSTANCE IN IT.

AND IF A BUTTERFLY OR A CATERPILLAR GETS THAT ON THEM AT LIKE IT'S LIKE SUPER GLUE, IT CLAMPS THEIR JAW SHUT.

LIKE, THEY THEY CAN'T FUNCTION IF THEY GET A HOLD OF THAT WHITE STICKY STUFF.

SO IT'S A TOXIC PLANT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S IN THEIR LEAVES CALLED CARDIAC GLYCOSIDES.

THAT'S THEIR DEFENSE.

SO IF THAT SAP AGAIN GETS ON THEM, IT JUST GLUES THEM COMPLETELY SHUT.

IT'S THAT POISONOUS.

SO HOW DO THEY DEAL WITH THAT? IF YOU CAN IF YOU EVER GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH A CATERPILLAR, A MONARCH CATERPILLAR, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU SEE ONE IN YOUR BACKYARD.

WATCH IT REALLY CLOSELY SOMETIME, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY CRAWL TO THE EDGE OF THE LEAF AND THEY EAT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE IN.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE MILKY WHITE SUBSTANCE ON THEM WHENEVER THEY GET TO THE STEM LIKE THIS GUY.

THEY BACK OFF BECAUSE THEY AREN'T GOING TO EXPOSE THAT WHITE, MILKY SUBSTANCE THAT THEY KNOW SOMEHOW IS POISONOUS TO THEM.

THEY CAN'T THEY JUST CAN'T DO IT OR THEIR IT'S OVER.

SO THAT'S ALL THAT THEY CAN EAT THIS ONE PLANT.

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MONARCHS THEMSELVES ARE DOWN ANOTHER 96% BECAUSE THE MILKWEED IS GETTING DESTROYED.

EVEN WE, ALL OF US HOMEOWNERS, ESPECIALLY AS NATIVE PLANT PEOPLE, ARE ALWAYS THERE PLANTING MILKWEED ALL OVER OUR YARD AS FAST AS WE CAN PLANT IT, IT'S GETTING CHEWED UP.

THE GOOD THING IS, WHEN IT GETS CHEWED DOWN TO THE STEM LIKE THAT OTHER PICTURE, IT DOES COME BACK.

BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF IT TO SUPPORT THOSE CATERPILLARS IN ORDER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

SO HE MAKES THE CASE THAT ALMOST ALL INSECTS HAVE A VERY SPECIALIZED RELATIONSHIP SIMILAR TO THE MONARCH CATERPILLARS.

THEY ALL HAVE ONE PLANT OR A COUPLE OF PLANTS THAT THEY REALLY, REALLY LIKE.

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE CAN USE THAT KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE HE'S A VERY OPTIMISTIC PERSON.

WE CAN USE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

SO HE FOLLOWS A NEST OF WIDE EYED VIDEOS AROUND AND HE SAYS, LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF CATERPILLARS.

THEY FEED THEIR BABIES.

THESE ARE ALL JUST LOTS OF GORGEOUS PICTURES OF THEM FEEDING THEIR BABIES, ALL THESE DIFFERENT KINDS.

SO OBVIOUSLY, BABY BIRDS AREN'T TOO DISCRIMINATING.

THEY'LL EAT JUST ABOUT ANY KIND OF CATERPILLAR.

RIGHT. AND THESE ARE ALL KIND OF NORTHERN OHIO TYPE CATERPILLARS, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME HERE.

SO BACK TO HIS CASE ON SPECIALIZATION.

THE BLACK WALNUT TREE AT THE TOP HERE IS WHAT SUPPORTS THESE TWO TYPES OF CATERPILLARS.

SO THEY WILL ONLY EAT THAT KIND OF TREE.

ONLY NATIVE MAPLES CAN PRODUCE THESE INCH WORMS. THESE MAPLE WORMS AND THE MAPLE DAGGER MOTH.

SO HE'S SAYING OUR CORRIDORS MUST HAVE NATIVE ELMS IF WE WANT THESE TYPE OF CATERPILLARS TO BE THERE.

SO REMEMBER, 90% OF INSECTS THAT EAT PLANTS CAN ONLY EAT THE PLANTS WITH WHICH THEY CO-EVOLVED.

ALL OF THESE TYPE OF CATERPILLARS LOVE OAK TREES.

AND OAK TREES, YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE, ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST FOR PLANTS.

SO IT'S NOT JUST BIRDS THAT NEED INSECTS.

ALL THESE GUYS NEED THEM TO.

I WAS AMAZED TO LEARN 25% OF A RED FOX DIET IS INSECTS.

23% OF A BLACK BEAR'S DIET IS INSECTS.

DURING A FOREST TENT CATERPILLAR OUTBREAK IN MICHIGAN, INDIVIDUAL BLACK BEARS WERE EATING 25,000 CATERPILLARS A DAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY FIGURED THAT OUT.

I WAS JUST KIND OF STUNNED.

KNOWLEDGE. SO A WORLD WITHOUT INSECTS IS A WORLD WITHOUT BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY.

SO. AND YOU CAN TELL THE INSECTS HAVE DECLINED.

THAT'S BEEN PROVEN. HE'S VERY GOOD.

IF YOU WANT TO FIND HIS SOURCES IN HIS BOOKS, HE'S GOT ALL THE SCIENTIFIC SOURCES.

I JUST ADMITTED ALL THOSE SLIDES BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT.

A LOT. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE SPECIES THAT RELY ON ALL THOSE INSECTS? WELL, BECAUSE THE INSECTS ARE DECREASING, THE BIRD POPULATIONS ARE INCREASING.

AND WHY CAN'T THAT BIODIVERSITY BE SUSTAINED IN OUR PARKS AND PRESERVES? THAT'S USUALLY THE FIRST QUESTION, EVERYBODY ELSE.

IT'S BECAUSE THE PARKS AND PRESERVES ARE TAKING A VERY LARGE SPACE AND MAKING IT INTO A SMALL SPACE.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALLER SPACE LIKE THAT, IT'S MUCH MORE PRONE TO ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO COME ALONG.

AND THIS GRAPH KIND OF SHOWS THAT A LARGE SPACE CAN HANDLE VARIATIONS LIKE DROUGHTS, A FLOODING SEASON, YOU KNOW.

IT HANDLES THOSE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

A SMALLER SPACE, MAYBE ONE SQUARE MILE.

ONE BAD DROUGHT, ONE LITTLE FLOOD.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT ON THAT THAN IT WILL ON THE BIGGER SPACE.

SO PUTTING EXPECTING PARKS TO BE THE ANSWER IS NOT GOING TO WORK, IS WHAT HE'S SAYING.

SAYING OUR NATURAL AREAS ARE NOT LARGE ENOUGH.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, THEY'RE GETTING OVERRUN WITH INVASIVE PLANTS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH IT.

I LOVE OUR PARKS AROUND HERE, AND IT'S SAD TO SEE THE INVASIVE PLANTS IN THEM, BUT IT'S BEYOND EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS CAPABILITY TO KEEP UP WITH IT ANYMORE.

SO HE HAS THIS EXPERIMENT WHERE WE CAN MEASURE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WITH NATIVE PLANTS IN A FOOD WEB.

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WHAT IF YOU PLANTED AN OAK HERE, A WHITE OAK FROM UP NORTH, BUT OAK HERE WORKS JUST AS WELL.

THIS WAS JUST A SAMPLE AT HEAD HEIGHT AND OAK TREE SUPPORTS 410 CATERPILLAR SPECIES.

SO THAT'S JUST.

I LEVEL, HEAD LEVEL.

I'M SURE THE WHOLE TREE HAD MORE THAN THAT, BUT THAT IS THE KIND OF PLANT YOU NEED IN YOUR YARD.

OR A BLACK CHERRY IS ANOTHER ONE UP NORTH THAT SUPPORTS 239 TYPES OF CAT CATERPILLARS.

BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THESE GUYS CALLERY PEARS.

ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THOSE? YES. YEAH. IF YOU LIVED UP NORTH, YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT THESE GUYS ARE.

THEY SUPPORT ONE CATERPILLAR SPECIES THAT'S REALLY NOT CUTTING IT IN THE WILDLIFE WORLD.

THIS BURNING BUSH SUPPORTS FOUR CATERPILLAR SPECIES.

SO WAS THAT A FLUKE? NO. WHAT HE'S DISCOVERED IS THAT CERTAIN PLANTS SUPPORT MORE SPECIES, AND THOSE ARE THE PLANTS THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE USING.

SO THIS CALLERY CALGARY PEAR EXAMPLE HERE, GORGEOUS ORNAMENTAL TREE PEOPLE WERE PLANTING TONS OF BECAUSE THE FLOWERS LOOK GORGEOUS, SUPER INVASIVE.

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT ONE PARKING LOT AREA.

BLEW ALL THESE SEEDS OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND CREATED ALL OF THESE GUYS.

IT'S NOW OFFICIALLY ON THE INVASIVE PLANT LIST AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE GETTING PLANTED BECAUSE IT'S INVASIVE.

IT DOESN'T SUPPORT ANY WILDLIFE AND IT'S ACTUALLY PUSHING OUT GOOD PLANTS AND NATIVE PLANTS.

SO BAD GUY, RIGHT? SO WHAT HE'S SAYING AND TRYING TO ENCOURAGE US TO DO IS LANDOWNERSHIP IS MORE THAN A PRIVILEGE.

IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.

AND HE'S GOING TO GO INTO THIS CASE OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

BUT I THINK THAT APPLIES TO MUNICIPAL OWNERSHIP.

I THINK IT APPLIES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ALL THE PARKS THAT IT OWNS, ALL THE ROADWAYS, MEDIANS, SPACES, PUBLIC INFLUENCE THAT IT HAS.

SO DON'T LET THAT THROW YOU LIKE IT DOESN'T APPLY TO US.

IT DOES. OKAY.

SO WHICH PLANT SHOULD WE BE SURE TO HAVE IN OUR LANDSCAPES? HE DID A TON OF WORK AND FIGURE IT OUT FOR EVERY SINGLE PLANT.

WHICH ONE? SUPPORT THE MOST SPECIES OF INSECTS AND CATERPILLARS.

AND THOSE ARE LISTED FROM THE TOP LEFT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT, TOP LEFT.

KING OF THE LIST IS THE CAUCUS, WHICH IS AN OAK TREE.

AND THAT'S ANY KIND OF OAK TREE.

JUST PLANT AN OAK TREE.

IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S AN OAK TREE.

HE ALSO PUT THESE LISTS OUT ON THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION AND THEY'RE ALSO OUT ON THE AUDUBON WEBSITE.

AND WHAT'S REALLY COOL IS YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR ZIP CODE AND IT WILL SHOW YOU THAT LIST FOR YOUR ZIP CODE.

WHAT ARE THE MOST FRUITFUL PLANTS FOR CATERPILLARS FOR YOUR SPECIFIC ZIP CODE? THAT WAS A TON OF RESEARCH THAT HE DID WITH A TON OF INTERNS, BUT IT'S ALL OUT THERE NOW FOR EVERYONE TO USE, WHICH IS AN AWESOME, JUST AN AWESOME RESOURCE.

SO IF WE CAN CREATE SOME FORAGING HUBS, WE CAN PLANT SEVERAL PLANT SPECIES THAT BENEFIT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THE WILDLIFE, HE'S GOT THIS DIAGRAM.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON A PLANE, YOU'VE SEEN THIS.

THIS IS THE PLANE CONNECTION ROUTE MAP.

RIGHT. BUT HE HE TURNED THIS INTO A GREAT EXAMPLE OF IF YOU THINK OF EACH RED LINE AS A RECORD OF WHERE A PARTICULAR BIRD HUNTS FOR FOOD.

THEN YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE BIRDS HUNT ON THE NATIVE TREE.

SO THEY'RE GOING WAY OUT OF THEIR WAY TO FINE OAKS, CHERRIES, WILLOWS AND PINES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FOOD IS.

IF THERE IS NO FOOD ON ORNAMENTAL PLANTS, THERE'S JUST IT'S DEAD.

DEAD TO THEM. SO IF WE THINK ABOUT THE FOOD WEBS, LET'S GO FOR THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER AND PLANT ALL THOSE GUYS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT.

AND THAT'S WHEN I'M REALLY HOPING THE TAKEAWAY IS HERE THAT WE CAN INFLUENCE WHAT WE PLANT IN OUR CITY.

WE CAN INFLUENCE IT AT THE PARK LEVEL, WE CAN INFLUENCE IT AT MEDIANS WITH HOMEOWNERS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE.

SO 5% OF AVAILABLE NATIVE PLANTS ARE TOP LEFT CORNER SUPPORT, 73% OF THE AVAILABLE CATERPILLAR SPECIES.

THAT'S PRETTY POWERFUL.

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YOU ONLY HAVE TO KNOW A FEW AND YOU'D BE MAKING A HUGE IMPACT.

SO LIKE HE SAID, THAT'S HIS FAVORITE.

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF HIS NON FAVORITES KINKO'S ONLY SUPPORT FIVE.

THEN YOU GO ANOTHER FAVORITE.

AND MANY OF THESE ORNAMENTALS ARE JUST GORGEOUS PLANTS.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE UGLY THINGS TO LOOK AT.

THIS GUY SUPPORTS NO CATERPILLARS.

FEW CATERPILLARS.

AND THEN HERE'S A NATIVE THAT SUPPORTS 103.

SO HE'S ASKING US TO THINK OF OUR LAND, THE LAND THAT WE OWN OR THE LAND THAT WE INFLUENCE.

AND THINK OF THE PLANTS IN YOUR YARD AS IF THEY'RE BIRD FEEDERS.

YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF FEEDERS OR YOU CAN HAVE JUST A FEW.

YOUR FEEDERS CAN BE VERY FULL OR YOU CAN HAVE EMPTY FEEDERS BECAUSE YOU'RE PLANTING PLANTS THAT DON'T ADD ANYTHING BACK TO THE WILDLIFE. THEY'RE.

SO WE'RE NOT FOOLING THE BIRDS BECAUSE THE BIRDS ARE GOING FOR WHERE THE FOOD IS.

AND HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

LOOKS LIKE A TYPICAL SUBDIVISION.

WHAT HE DID IS HE MAPPED OUT THE SITES WHERE THE BIRDS WENT FOR FOOD.

AND WITH ALL STARS IS WHERE THE BIRD'S NEST IS.

THEY IGNORED ALL THE OTHER PLANTS AND WILDLIFE.

THEY ONLY WENT AFTER THE NATIVE PLANTS.

SO COMPARED TO NATIVE LANDSCAPES, YARDS DOMINATED BY INTRODUCED PLANTS, MEANING NON NATIVE PLANTS PRODUCE 75% FEWER CATERPILLARS LESS LIKELY TO HAVE BREEDING NESTS.

NESTS CONTAIN FEWER EGGS.

THEY WERE LESS LIKELY TO SURVIVED.

THEY PRODUCED FEWER FLEDGLINGS AND THOSE FLEDGLINGS DELAYED MATURATION.

SO IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT.

SO HE HAD 51 SPECIES MIGRATE THROUGH HIS YARD.

AND WHAT HE'S SAYING HERE IS THE IF YOU HAVE.

25% OF NON NATIVE PLANTS IN YOUR YARD.

THAT'S THE TIPPING POINT TO NEGATIVELY INFLUENCING THE WILDLIFE.

THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL NUMBER, 25%.

MOST YARDS ARE 100% NON-NATIVE RATE.

BUT YOU NEED IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU FLIP THAT, YOU NEED 75% NATIVE TO BE HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO SORRY I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.

51 SPECIES MIGRATE THROUGH HIS YARD.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BIODIVERSITY, THEN JUST.

JUST DO SOMETHING WHERE YOU LIVE, IF YOU CAN, OR WHERE YOU CAN INFLUENCE IT, HOPEFULLY AROUND HERE.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE THINK INTRODUCED ORNAMENTAL PLANTS, SOMEDAY, BUGS MIGHT LEARN HOW TO LIVE WITH THOSE.

THEY'RE NOT. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MILLIONS OF YEARS.

IT TOOK MILLIONS OF YEARS FOR US TO GET THIS FAR.

SO NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN OUR LIFETIME OR EVEN OUR GRANDKIDS LIFETIME.

SO IF THESE SPECIALIZED RELATIONSHIPS DISAPPEAR, THEN SO DO THE SPECIES.

HOW MANY SPECIES DO WE NEED? WE NEED ALL OF THEM.

YOU KNOW, WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE INDISCRIMINATE.

SO BIODIVERSITY EQUALS ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.

WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF MESSING UP THE PLANET.

BUT HERE'S THE KEY.

THIS IS HOW BIG THE EARTH WAS WHEN HUMANS APPEARED 2 MILLION YEARS AGO, AND THIS IS HOW BIG IT IS TODAY.

SAME SIZE. AND AS IT CHANGED, HOW CAN WE TAKE MORE AND MORE EACH DAY FROM THE EARTH IF THE EARTH ITSELF ISN'T GROWING? AND YET WE ARE TAKING A LOT FROM IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A YARD LIKE THIS.

THAT LIFE HAS GONE.

THE ABILITY TO SUSTAIN LIFE, THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT LIFE, IT'S JUST IT'S BEEN GONE.

THAT LAWN IS GOING TO SUPPORT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

SO THAT MAYBE HOGGING WATER AND FERTILIZER.

SO WHAT HE'S HIS ARGUMENT NOW IS 86% OF THE US EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI IS PRIVATELY OWNED.

IF WE WERE TO RAISE THE BAR FOR WHAT WE ASK OUR LANDSCAPES TO DO, WE CAN HAVE SOME INFLUENCE WITH THAT 60 WITH THAT 86% THAT'S PRIVATELY OWNED AND MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALLY OWNED.

SO LOSING OUR POLLINATORS IS NOT AN OPTION.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOOD LAND STEWARDSHIP.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ESSENTIAL LAND STEWARDSHIP.

SO BACK TO OUR HOMEOWNER HERE.

IF YOUR PROPERTY DOES NOT GENERATE ALL THE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES YOU NEED, YOU'RE HAVING TO BORROW IT FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE.

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THERE'S VERY LITTLE CARBON SEQUESTRATION, AND WE'RE DESTROYING THE WATERSHED.

SO HOW DID WE GET HERE? THIS WAS OUR PAST CRITERIA FOR CHOOSING PLANTS FOR OUR LANDSCAPES, MOSTLY BASED ON DECORATIVE VALUE.

RIGHT. WHAT HE'S SUGGESTING IS THAT OUR FUTURE CRITERIA SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCED.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY THE OTHER WAY, BUT LET'S AT LEAST GET IT BALANCED.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WELL, IF WE GOT TOGETHER WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR CITIES, WE COULD CREATE WILDLIFE AND FUR.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING BEARS.

WE'RE TALKING CATERPILLARS HERE.

WHEN WE SAY WILDLIFE, THAT WE COULD CREATE SOME CORRIDORS.

AND HERE'S YOUR TYPICAL HOUSE.

THIS MAYBE IS EVEN A LITTLE NON TYPICAL BECAUSE MOST NEW HOUSES DON'T HAVE ANY TREES.

BUT IF, SAY, YOU GOT A FEW TREES IN YOUR YARD, IF YOU GOT TOGETHER AND JUST EVEN PLANTED TREES AROUND THE EDGE AND THEN PUT ALL THOSE HOUSES TOGETHER WITH THEIR EDGES, YOU WOULD HAVE CREATED A CORRIDOR FOR WILDLIFE SO THEY CAN MOVE THROUGHOUT THERE.

THE BIRDS HAVE A LOT OF SELECTION TO GO AFTER IF WE REPLANT HALF OF THE AREA NOW AND LAWN.

WE WOULD THAT WOULD COVER 20 MILLION ACRES, WHICH IS ALL OF THESE PLACES ADDED TOGETHER.

JUST BY GETTING RID OF HALF OF OUR LAWN FROM OPPORTUNITIES, PERHAPS LOCALLY, OUR MEDIANS.

A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF PUBLIC SETTINGS.

THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

THIS HOMEOWNER DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO WALK ON THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE, SO THEY REPLACED THEIR LAWN WITH THIS WONDERFUL, DIVERSE NATIVE PLANT COMMUNITY.

THERE'S ANOTHER ROADSIDE TYPE THING.

HERE'S A CORPORATE LANDSCAPE THAT'S A WASTED OPPORTUNITY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING THE EMPLOYEES GO OUT AND ENJOY A LUNCHTIME IN FLORIDA? THIS WOULD BE MISERABLE.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T EVEN GO OUT THERE.

OR IS THIS SOMEPLACE YOU'D LIKE TO GO DURING YOUR LUNCH BREAK? IS THIS A TOP STREET YOU'D LIKE TO BE LIVING ON OR THE BOTTOM WITH THOSE GORGEOUS OAKS THAT TAKE A WHILE TO GROW? SO IT'S JUST SAYING, LET'S BALANCE IT OUT AND USE THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT HE'S HELPED US GATHER TO BALANCE THE EQUATION FOR CHOOSING PLANTS.

DOES YOUR YARD HAVE TO BE 100% NATIVES? NO, IT DOESN'T.

BUT I LOVE THIS ILLUSTRATION WHERE HE SAYS, THINK OF YOUR NON NATIVE PLANTS AS STATUES.

HOW MANY STATUES DO YOU WANT IN YOUR YARD? BECAUSE EVERY STATUE IS JUST THAT.

IT'S NOT CONTRIBUTING ANYTHING TO WILDLIFE.

AND IF YOU GO OUT IN YOUR YARD AND YOU LOOK AT THOSE CURTAINS AND THE OTHER STATUES THAT YOU HAVE THAT MIGHT LOOK PRETTY, THEN YOU REALIZE, WOW, THAT'S KIND OF A WASTE OF SPACE. MAYBE I COULD GET RID OF A COUPLE OF STATUES AND PLANT SOMETHING MEANINGFUL THERE.

IT KIND OF TAKES ON A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT YOUR YARD.

SO HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'VE SUCCEEDED? WHEN YOU GO OUT IN YOUR YARD AND YOU SEE SOME LEAVES THAT ARE CHEWED ON, THEN YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME INSECTS THERE CHEWING ON THEM.

AND AND I DON'T MEAN LIKE YOUR TOMATO PLANTS AND YOU WANT TO PUT WHITE POWDER ALL OVER THEM.

I MEAN, LIKE YOUR OAK TREE HAS SOME LEAVES ON IT THAT HAVE HOLES IN THEM, THAT HAVE EDGES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'VE BEEN EATING.

OR YOU HEAR SOME BABY BIRDS SQUAWKING.

I, I USED TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE SQUAWKING WAS ABOUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NOW I GET IT.

IT'S THE BABY BIRDS.

AND I. I MISS IT WHEN IT'S NOT THERE.

WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE.

SO WE CAN ONLY SAVE NATURE IF WE LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT.

AS THE LAST EXAMPLE, HERE IS THE ITALIAN ATALA BUTTERFLY THAT LIVES IN CENTRAL SOUTH FLORIDA THAT ALMOST WENT EXTINCT.

IS ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THIS? THE ITALIAN BUTTERFLY? NO, REBECCA WOULD BE. SO, LIKE 90% OF ALL INSECTS THAT HE PLANS TO.

ATALA IS A SPECIALIST AND ONLY EATS COUNTY PLANTS.

AND IT TURNS OUT THE COUNTY WAS ALMOST DRIVEN TO EXTINCTION BECAUSE IT WAS USED BY NATIVE AMERICANS, WHICH THEY WEREN'T THE PROBLEM AS A SOURCE OF STARCH BECAUSE IT HAS A HUGE ROOT BALL THAT YOU CAN GRIND UP FOR STARCH.

BUT THEY TAUGHT THE SETTLERS AND THE SETTLERS WIPED OUT THE COUNTIES SO IT WASN'T THE NATIVE GUYS.

SO ATTEMPTS TO GET THE ATALA BUTTERFLY WHO CAN ONLY EAT COUNTIES ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST FAILED BECAUSE NO ONE COULD FIND ANY ITALIANS.

BUT GUESS WHAT? LANDSCAPERS DISCOVERED COUNTIES.

AND I LOVE THAT RIGHT OUT HERE ON THE MEDIAN WE HAVE PLANTED PALM BAY HAS PLANTED A LOT OF THESE COUNTY PLANTS.

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I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY FEEL THE NEED TO TRIM THEM ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE TRIMMED.

BUT. BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE THERE.

OKAY, THAT'S A START.

SO RESIDENTIAL LANDSCAPES CAN BE A POWERFUL CONSERVATION TOOL.

AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT BACK THE ATALA OF BUTTERFLY.

SO THE THEORY ABOUT HOW PLANTS AND INSECTS AND WILDLIFE ALL GO TOGETHER, I THINK IS JUST AMAZING. I NEVER UNDERSTOOD ANY OF THIS UNTIL DR.

PTOLEMY KIND OF LAID IT OUT, AND I THINK HE DOES A GREAT JOB OF LAYING IT OUT IN TERMS WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IN HIS WORLD OF PHD, IT'S VERY SCIENTIFIC AND I WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING IT FOR FOR US HERE. HE'S WRITTEN A COUPLE OF BOOKS, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

THE BOOK ON THE LEFT IS BY HIM, AND HE ALSO HAS ANOTHER BOOK OUT.

HE'S GOT AN AWESOME WEBSITE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO CHECK IN TO SOME OF HIS READING.

IT'S CALLED HIS NEWEST ONE AS HOME GROWN NATIONAL PARK.

BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ UP ON THAT.

JUST A LITTLE PLUG FOR OUR CHAPTER.

WE'RE HERE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE NATIVE PLANTS IN SOUTH BREVARD.

AS I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER, THERE ARE NATIVE PLANT CHAPTERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

EVERY STATE HAS A NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY, SO NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, YOU CAN FIND OUT NATIVE PLANT INFORMATION.

ONE OF THE BIG EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE EVERY YEAR IS OUR ANNUAL NATIVE PLANT.

YOUR TOUR COMING UP HERE IN OCTOBER 15TH, TICKETS ARE ON SALE ON EVENTBRITE.

THERE ARE ONLY TEN BUCKS EACH.

BUT THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR FOR PALM BAY, IS ALL THE HOMES ARE EITHER IN MELBOURNE OR PALM BAY.

THAT'S FOUR OUT OF SIX HOMES ON THE TOUR ARE IN PALM BAY.

TURKEY CREEK IS FEATURED ON THE TOUR THIS YEAR.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SOME AWESOME PLANTS THERE AND THERE'S TWO OTHER PUBLIC SPACES ALSO ON THE TOUR.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHAT NATIVE PLANTS CAN LOOK LIKE IN YOUR YARD.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A 100% FOREST VIEW.

IT CAN BE A VERY MANICURED VIEW LIKE THE PICTURE AT THE BOTH OF THESE ARE FAIRLY MANICURED VIEWS.

SO JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE IDEAS AND TO SEE THE SIZE OF THE PLANTS AND HOW BIG THEY'RE GOING TO GET AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND TALK TO THE HOMEOWNERS ABOUT ANY CHALLENGES THEY'VE HAD. THERE'S ALSO THESE NATIVE PLANT FINDERS I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT ARE AVAILABLE RESOURCES.

IT WILL BE SO COOL IF A MUNICIPALITY LINK TO THESE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THEM.

AND THEN AND THEN THESE ARE OUR NATIVE PLANT NURSERIES.

AND TIM AND ANA ARE HERE FROM IN PALM BAY.

YEAH, FROM THE NATIVE BUTTERFLY NURSERY.

THEY'RE A WONDERFUL SUPPLIER RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PRESENTATION.

BUT WHAT I WAS HOPING TO ENCOURAGE AT THE END IS JUST SOME DISCUSSION OR THOUGHT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, TO HAVE DISCUSSION.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES PALM BAY HAS, BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING WITH REBECCA AND SEEING THE SUSTAINABILITY STRATEGY PLAN THAT YOU ALL HAVE DEVELOPED, THAT IS AWESOME.

I COULD NOT THINK OF A SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN PALM BAY THAT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY NATIVE PLANTS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, EITHER IN THEIR LANDSCAPES, OR ENCOURAGING HOMEOWNERS OR ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES OR WRITING ORDINANCES.

AND I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH OF MANY OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE SATELLITE BEACH, BUT MANY OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTRY HAVE WRITTEN THOSE TYPES OF ORDINANCES TO START ENCOURAGING NOT JUST HOMEOWNERS, BUT BUSINESSES ON.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO ENCOURAGEMENT, FRANKLY, THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO JUST FLATTEN THE LAWN AND THAT'S IT. RIGHT.

BUT WITH A LITTLE ENCOURAGEMENT, DOESN'T TAKE MUCH AND SOME GREAT EXAMPLES THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN PROVIDE IN THE WAY OF THEIR SPACES USING PUBLIC PLANTS.

I MEAN, IT CAN GO A LONG WAY FASTER.

AND YOU'VE GOT THIS LITTLE ARMY HERE OF CANADA MEMBERS, GARDEN CLUB MEMBERS THAT ARE VERY WILLING TO HELP AND GET INVOLVED.

SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.

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WE MEET MONTHLY IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT IN COMING IN, THE MEETINGS ARE ON THE BACK OF THE BUSINESS CARD.

THAT SAID ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HIGGINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR.

I HAVE I HAVE A COMMENT THAT PEOPLE SEE TREES IN SOME CASES AS A BURDEN, THAT THEY HAVE TO RAKE UP THE LEAVES AND MAINTAIN THE, YOU KNOW, UM. BUT MOSTLY TREES WOULD PREFER TO HAVE NATIVE LANDSCAPING UNDER THEM.

THEY DON'T REALLY LIKE MULCH SOAKING UP THE RAINWATER.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE NATIVE PLANTS TO PERCOLATE THE WATER DOWN SO THEIR ROOTS CAN SINK DEEPER AS THE NATIVE PLANT.

SINK DEEPER. AND THE NATIVE PLANTS LOVE THE LEAF LITTER.

THEY LOVE THE LEAF LITTER TO FALL.

AND THEN THE INSECTS HAVE A PLACE TO WINTER OVER TO BURROW.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE BIRDS OUT THERE PECKING AWAY IN THE LEAF LITTER.

SO IT'S REALLY A FULL CIRCLE AROUND THE TREE.

AND TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT IN A FULL CIRCLE WAY TO PLANT NATIVES UNDER THE TREE CANOPY.

AND OTHER STUDIES HAVE PROVEN THAT IT LOWERS MAINTENANCE COSTS BECAUSE THE MORE GRASS YOU GET RID OF, THE LESS MOWING, THE LESS GAS, THE LESS MAINTENANCE OF MOWING MACHINES, ALL THAT.

IT IS IT IS A WAY TO REDUCE COST FOR THE CITY AS WELL.

THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND I'M GOING TO HAVE THREE MINUTE CHICKADEE DREAMS AND WORRY.

BUT I WANTED TO ASK UNCLE BROWN, WHO IS.

WITH US IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT OUR GROUP, OUR ADVISORY BOARD COULD ASK THAT THE.

TAMARA DINA, FLORIDA NATIVE.

SOCIETY COULD BE A RESOURCE FOR BUILDING E IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE LANDSCAPE.

AND JUST THESE IDEAS ARE.

WAY TO BEGIN WITH THAT.

NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING, BY THE WAY, HERE.

OH, GREAT. MM HMM.

WHICH NEW DEVELOPMENT IS THAT? THERE'S SOME. THERE'S SO MANY.

I CAN'T. BUILDING.

E WOULD BE ANOTHER CITY FACILITY RIGHT OUT HERE, OUT FRONT.

OH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THIS BOARD.

BOARD MEETINGS ARE INCORPORATING SUSTAINABLE AND GREEN DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT INTO THAT BUILD.

AND CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT INCORPORATING THAT.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN WAS WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE LIKE FOR THESE TYPES OF ECOSYSTEMS? AND SO YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION FOR ME.

I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE A BAD IDEA WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF WE'RE AT CONSTRUCTION BID AND WE ARE THEN LOOKING AT LANDSCAPING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR LOCAL NURSERIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO EVEN FURTHER CREATE A FACILITY THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND GREEN IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

THAT'D BE GREAT. TIM AND I DO LANDSCAPING FOR HOMEOWNERS BUSINESSES, SO THEY ARE THE PROS.

WE'RE THE BACKS THERE, BUT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

FIGGINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND IT REALLY WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

AND WE'RE REALLY BLESSED BY YOUR PRESENCE HERE.

THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU.

CAN THANK DR. TELHAMI.

HE'S THE THE GUY.

SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING SPECIFICALLY MS. HIGGINS PRESENTATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS RELATED TO THAT? SAYS ELIZABETH BLACKFORD.

GOOD EVENING, ELIZABETH BLACKFORD, 483 NOGALES AVENUE, NORTHEAST IN PALM BAY.

THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU MY HOW IT IMPACTED ME.

TEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE MOVED TO THIS AREA, IT TOOK ME SIX MONTHS TO REEDUCATE MY EYE ABOUT WHAT PLANTS AND WHAT STUFF I WANTED IN MY YARD.

SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS TO BRING THEIR FAVORITE FROM WHATEVER STATE THEY'RE MOVING FROM DOWN HERE TO THE FLORIDA HOTHOUSE, WHERE IT GOES CRAZY, PERFECTLY WELL BEHAVED PLANTS JUST BECOME INVASIVE DOWN HERE.

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SO I FOUND JOINING THE MEDINA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY PARTICULARLY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT TAUGHT ME WHAT TO LOOK FOR, BUT ALSO IT TAUGHT ME TO LOOK FOR EXAMPLES.

AND LOOKING AROUND TOWN, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT.

IF I WERE REALLY WANTING TO SHIFT MY PLANTING BEHAVIOR, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES IN PUBLIC PLACES.

THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER TO URGE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE PUBLIC SPACES DEMONSTRATION GARDENS THAT PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF THESE THINGS.

IT'S LIKE HAVING A NATIVE YARD TOUR YEAR ROUND AND THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE PLACES, BUT THERE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.

IT SHOULD BE EVERYWHERE AND CITY HALL SHOULD BE A MASTERPIECE OF NATIVE PLANTS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ENCOURAGE HOAS TO SUPPORT THIS AND NOT FIGHT FOR HAVING THE MANICURED CLASSIC SOD YARD WITH.

OK. WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO PLANT AND LANDSCAPE BEFORE THEY CAN CLOSE ON A HOUSE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS STUFF.

WELL, LET'S GET THOSE REGULATIONS OUT OF THE WAY AND LET THEM HAVE SOME LEEWAY TO PUT IN SOME NATIVE PLANTINGS THAT ACTUALLY BELONG HERE.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF A PROGRAM CALLED THE BACK TEN FEET, LEAVING THE BORDERS OF OUR PROPERTIES IN NATIVE PLANTS.

THERE'S ALSO AROUND TOWN I THINK IT'S KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL HAS THE WE NOTICED SIGNS FOR BUSINESSES THAT HAVE PLANTED NATIVE.

WELL THERE SHOULD BE SOME NEAT INCENTIVES LIKE THAT FOR CITIZENS TOO.

WE JUST NEED TO STOP THE SODDING OR IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR GRASS TO TEACH HOMEOWNERS TO MOW DIRECTIONALLY SO THEY BLOW THOSE CLIPPINGS BACK ONTO THE LAWN, THEREBY NATURALLY FERTILIZING.

AND OF COURSE, THE LEAF LITTER BEING USED ON THE PROPERTY MAKES IT JUST FINE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM? SORRY, I'M NOT GOING TO PRONOUNCE THIS CORRECTLY.

THIS IS REBECCA HYDE.

AND. OKAY.

SO SORRY. BEING HERE.

HELLO. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY FOR 13 YEARS.

I HAVE THREE YOUNG CHILDREN THAT I'M HOMESCHOOLING, AND I STARTED NATIVE GARDENING ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO BECAUSE I LIVE ON A STREET NAMED MARIPOSA, WHICH IS SPANISH FOR BUTTERFLY.

AND WHEN I MOVED THERE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, I PLANTED ORNAMENTALS THAT WERE FLORIDA FRIENDLY FROM LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT.

ALL OF THEM DIED, MISERABLE, SLOW DEATHS.

AND SO I WAS LIKE, SURELY I CAN DO SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS.

AND I JUST LET IT GET OVERGROWN AND AWFUL.

AND WE JUST MOWED EVERYTHING DOWN BECAUSE NOTHING WOULD GROW.

AND THEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS LATER, I STARTED PUTTING IN A FEW NATIVE PLANTS AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF ONE OF MY FRIENDS, AND THEN IT BECAME A MASSIVE OBSESSION.

I NOW HAVE OVER 140 SPECIES ON MY QUARTER ACRE.

IT'S NOT A LARGE YARD.

I HAVE ALL OF THE TREES MENTIONED THAT ARE NECESSARY.

AND AS THIS HAS PROGRESSED OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, I HAVE DOCUMENTED OVER 20 DIFFERENT SPECIES OF BIRDS.

I HAVE DOZENS OF POLLINATORS, ALL KINDS OF WASPS AND MOTHS AND BUTTERFLIES AND BEES.

AND MY KIDS PLAY IN THE YARD EVERY SINGLE DAY BAREFOOT.

IT'S NOT A INSECT RIDDEN HEAP OF ANTS AND BEES EVERYWHERE.

WE DON'T HAVE STINGS OR BITES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WE HAVE SO MUCH BIODIVERSITY AND IT BRINGS OUR FAMILIES SO MUCH JOY THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH WILDLIFE.

AND AT FIRST MY NEIGHBORS WERE LIKE, WHAT IS SHE DOING OVER THERE? BECAUSE ALL MY NEIGHBORS HAVE VERY SHORT, VERY STANDARD LAWNS.

AND THEN AS TIME GOES ON, THEY'RE NOW SITTING OUTSIDE LOOKING IN MY YARD BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE ALL THE BIRDS AND THE BUTTERFLIES THAT ARE FLYING EVERYWHERE.

AND THEY HAVE COMMENTED LIKE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.

THEY SAY IT'S THE JUNGLE, BUT THEY ALSO SAY IT'S ALSO LIKE SO PEACEFUL AND BEAUTIFUL AND SO MUCH WILDLIFE AND THAT I'M RESTORING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO ME.

AND IT'S SO SAD TO ME THAT I'M THE ONLY ONE ON MY BLOCK THAT IS DOING THIS AND THE ONLY ONE THAT'S CARING ABOUT THAT.

THEY'RE ALL LIKE, IT'S GOOD FOR YOU, HONEY.

AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, REALLY, ALL OF US NEED TO BE DOING THIS.

AND SO I JUST I TRY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE HAVE SIGNS ON MY YARD, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

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I GIVE SEEDLINGS AWAY.

I WOULD COME HELP PLANT PUBLIC SPACES.

ME AND MY KIDS WERE REALLY INTO IT.

I WOULD EVEN TEACH LITTLE CLASSES IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I COULD DO.

MY BACKGROUND IS AS A SCIENCE TEACHER AND I HAD NO IDEA THE IMPORTANCE OF NATIVES UNTIL JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.

EVEN GOING THROUGH COLLEGE FOR SCIENCE LIKE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS TALKED ABOUT NEARLY ENOUGH AND CERTAINLY NOT IN OUR SCHOOLS.

AND I LIVE RIGHT BY RIVIERA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THERE'S TONS OF OPEN GRASS SPACE, TONS.

CHILDREN ARE NOT RUNNING ON IT.

WHY IS IT NOT MEADOW? LIKE, WHY IS IT NOT A BIODIVERSE FOREST THERE, YOU KNOW, SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

ART IS. YES.

YOU CAN COME SEE MY JUNGLE.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FOR YOUR TIME AND CONTRIBUTION.

MS.. GWEN IACONO.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THIS MEETING TONIGHT.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO FIND OUT THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS EVEN THINKING ABOUT STUFF LIKE THIS.

MY NAME IS GWEN IACONO.

I'M ACTUALLY ANNA'S SISTER.

SO JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST HERE, I'M A CONSERVATION SCIENTIST, SO I DO THINK ABOUT BIODIVERSITY CONSERVATION FOR A LIVING.

I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT THE CENTER FOR BIODIVERSITY OUTCOMES AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY, AND I WORK ON SORT OF GLOBAL CONSERVATION PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

BUT WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT IS THE THING THAT I CAN DO THAT CAN SORT OF HELP BIODIVERSITY IMMEDIATELY AT MY SCALE, PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I TELL THEM BECAUSE IT'S EASY, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR WHOLE YARD.

ONE PLANT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO AT SOMETHING THAT'S EASY.

AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE IF MUNICIPALITIES SORT OF PROMOTE THIS STUFF, IT'LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.

AND BECCA BECKER, I REALLY LIKED WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT SORT OF HAVING NATIVE PLANTS IN HER YARD FOR HER KIDS TO LEARN FROM.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND I GREW UP ON HEALD ROAD IN THE EIGHTIES.

THERE WAS NATIVE PLANTS EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? LIKE IT WAS THE EDGE OF TOWN, IT WAS FOREST.

AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE BOTH WORKING IN IN THE CONSERVATION FIELD.

RIGHT. WE GREW UP EXPERIENCING ALL THE PLANTS AND ALL THE INSECTS AND ALL THE BIRDS THAT WERE EVERYWHERE BEFORE IT WAS ALL LAWN AND BEFORE IT WAS ALL PARKING LOT. AND WE'RE WE'RE ALL WORKING TO TRY AND KEEP SOME OF THESE SPECIES AROUND BECAUSE THEY'RE OUR FRIENDS AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT FOR THE WORLD AND EVERYBODY. SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST HAPPY THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS DOING STUFF LIKE THIS AND.

THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL TALK.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

JUST I'M I'M DIGGING THE PARTICIPATION FOR THE RECORD IS USUALLY IF NOT USUALLY THERE'S JUST LIKE LIKE, OH, WONDERFUL CHAIRS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW? BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL YOU ALL ARE HERE THIS EVENING, I THINK.

ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION? SO NOW I'M VERY EXCITED THAT MS..

NATHALIE SCHAITBERGER FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WILL BE COMING AND PRESENTING ON THE VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

SHOULD I CALL IT? WAS IT A PROPOSAL? I GUESS IT'S APPROVED NOW, RIGHT? ORDNANCE. THERE WE GO. THAT'S THE WORD.

THE MANUAL IS STILL VERY MUCH IN DRAFT FORM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK.

PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU. AND SO GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS NATALIE SHAVER.

OH. I COULD HAVE JUST PULLED IT FORWARD, BUT THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS NATALIE SHIBA AND I AM AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER BY TRAINING, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND WORK FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I TOO AM VERY PROUD THAT PALM BAY IS NOT ONLY CONSIDERING, BUT ADOPTING A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. UM.

THE ORDINANCE WILL INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPER LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN BOTH NEW AND REDEVELOPMENT SITUATIONS.

SO. HERE IS MY.

OH, VERY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M NOT SURE EVERYONE'S FAMILIARITY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE TERM LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

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WE WANT TO WORK WITH IT.

WE WANT TO MANAGE STORMWATER AT ITS SOURCE.

WE WANT TO USE THE NATIVE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY AND NATIVE PLANTS.

YOU'LL SEE THIS IS THE FIRST SLIDE, UM, SHOWS THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A RAIN GARDEN, WHICH IS ONE OF THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX THAT YOU'LL SEE IN OUR MANUAL LATER ON.

ALL OF YOU, I'M SURE, ARE AWARE THAT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR ENVIRONMENT IN FLORIDA.

IT IT SOLVES TWO PROBLEMS IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.

ONE OF THEM, OF COURSE, IS FLOOD CONTROL.

THE OTHER IS WATER QUALITY.

SO IN PALM BAY IN FLORIDA, WATER IS IS OUR LIFE.

IT'S OUR GROUNDWATER OR DRINKING WATER.

AND THE REST OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PLAY IT.

WE WANT TO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUR SHELLFISH AND OUR FISH.

WE HAVE A VERY, VERY CLOSE LINK TO THE WATER.

AND THE GROUND AND SURFACE WATER ARE VERY, VERY CLOSELY LINKED.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO MANAGING RUNOFF, GET IT AWAY FROM OUR BUILDINGS AND CARS AND US AS QUICKLY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO PREVENT FLOODING, WHICH IS A NATURAL.

OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO DO THAT.

RIGHT. OUR PROPERTY VALUES WOULD PLUMMET IF OUR HOUSE IF OUR IF OUR HOMES FLOODED EVERY TIME IT RAINS.

SO THIS CONVENTIONAL APPROACH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SEVERAL DECADES.

SO THE ISSUE, OF COURSE, IS THIS CONVENTIONAL APPROACH DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER SIDE OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS IN THE URL, WHICH IS A NATIONAL TREASURE, IT'S AN ESTUARY, AND IT IS GETTING LESS AND LESS HEALTHY EVERY YEAR.

SO LYD IS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

AS I SAID, LYD CAN BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE THE WATER QUALITY ASPECTS OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IN OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOOKING AHEAD TO DEVELOPING NATURAL SITES AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT WILL.

INSTEAD OF SCRAPING A LANDSCAPE AND REFILLING IT WITH NON-NATIVE SOILS, WE WORK WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY AND WE SPOKE EARLIER.

THAT LAST PRESENTATION WAS VERY GOOD ABOUT NATURAL PLANTS, NATURAL ECOSYSTEMS, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, ESSENTIALLY. SEEKS TO ENHANCE AND TO USE THAT NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TO.

UM. PROVEN TO DO WHAT IT WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO, AND THAT IS TO MANAGE STORMWATER BOTH FLOOD AND AND WATER QUALITY.

SO WE ALL KNOW THAT GROWTH WILL STRESS THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF PALM BAY AND TURKEY CREEK IN 1945.

A LOT OF IT WAS WATER.

THERE'S A SMALL COMMUNITY AT THE BAY ITSELF AND THIS IS THAT SAME AREA IN 2017 AND HEAVY RAINFALL, STILL A LOT OF WATER.

RIGHT. SO FIRST ONE WAS A LOT OF WATER.

THIS ONE'S A LOT OF WATER BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? WE LIVE IN FLORIDA. THERE'S A LOT OF WATER.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, IN 2017, WE HAVE WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY AND THIS IS NOT WHAT ANYONE WANTS TO SEE.

IT IS OBVIOUSLY A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM THAT IS NOT ABLE TO HANDLE THE LARGE STORMS THAT WE DO HAVE.

SO AS WE KNOW, RUNOFF FROM OUR ROADS ARE GOING TO CARRY ALL THE OILS AND CHEMICALS AND SO ON INTO OUR SYSTEM AND CREATE JUST A VERY POLLUTED DISCHARGE TO OUR TURKEY CREEK IN OUR URL. THIS IS JUST A SLIDE SHOWING A BIT OF TURKEY CREEK AND SOME FOLKS ENJOYING THEMSELVES.

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AS I SAID BEFORE, FRESH DRINKING WATER COMES FROM THE GROUND WHICH COMES FROM THE SKY AND INFILTRATES INTO THE EARTH.

VERY IMPORTANT FOR FISH AND SHELLFISH PROPAGATION AND GOOD STORMWATER MANAGEMENT THAT IS BOTH QUANTITY AND QUALITY MATTER MORE THAN EVER.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, ECONOMIC HEALTH, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S GOING TO SAVE TAXPAYERS IN THE LONG RUN, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.

BOTH THE WATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY ASPECTS WHILE PROVIDING OTHER BENEFITS, SUCH AS INCORPORATING OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INTO OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT SLIDE SAID ADAPTING STORM WATER.

SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, MOST EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO DATE IS WHAT WE CALL GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE, GRAY BEING CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, ETC.. GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BENEFITS ARE GETS WATER AWAY QUICKLY.

VERY IMPORTANT FOR FOR FLOOD ATTENUATION, WE CAN ENHANCE THAT GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE BY ADDING LOW IMPACT WHAT WE CALL INTEGRATED MANAGEMENT PRACTICES OR BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO A TREATMENT TRAIN. THAT TREATMENT TRAIN PROVIDES WATER QUALITY TREATMENT AND A SLOWER ABSORPTION OF THAT RUNOFF INTO THE GROUND.

OF COURSE, IT'S GOING TO ENCOURAGE EVAPOTRANSPIRATION FROM THOSE BEAUTIFUL PLANTS IN THAT PARTICULAR LITTLE WHAT WE CALL BIO RETENTION CELL.

AND OF COURSE, THAT EVAPOTRANSPIRATION IS GIVING US CLEAN WATER.

IF IT WERE PURELY A GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT RUNOFF THAT'S IN COCOA BEACH, BY THE WAY, IT WOULD BE GOING DIRECTLY FROM THAT STREET DOWN ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE OF PIPE RIGHT INTO THE EARL.

IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IT'S GOING THROUGH A BIO RETENTION CELL, BECOMING TREATED.

AND ANY THAT CANNOT BE HANDLED BY THAT, BY OUR ATTENTION CELL WILL GET WHISKED AWAY.

SO THE TWO WORKING TOGETHER ARE ARE GOING TO GIVE US A MUCH BETTER WATER QUALITY GOING FORWARD.

GCI IS GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I EXPLAIN GRAY AS CONCRETE GREEN AS, YOU KNOW, OUR NATIVE PLANTS OR BIO RETENTION CELLS.

AND AS OUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAYS, WHEN WE INCORPORATE THOSE THOSE NATURAL NATIVE PLANTS INTO OUR OUR HOMES, INTO OUR DEVELOPMENTS, WE DO A GREAT BENEFIT FOR BOTH THE ESTHETIC AND THE WATER QUALITY.

AND WATER QUALITY IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ECONOMIC BENEFITS.

THAT'S A PICTURE TAKEN FROM A RESTAURANT ALONG THE EARL RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

AS I SAID BEFORE, TOURISM IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SO WE NEED THAT BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, VIEW TO ATTRACT TOURIST DOLLARS TO OUR TO OUR CITY AND PROVIDE THAT REVENUE.

NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFITS, ALSO IMPORTANT, THAT WAS A STREET THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH LIKE OUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER WAS TALKING ABOUT, NICELY TREED.

AND SO AS A DEVELOPER, A DESIGNER OR A LAND DEVELOPMENT STAKEHOLDER.

IS IT IS IT COSTLY? IT'S ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AS CONVENTIONAL METHODS.

IS IT RIGHT? IT CAN. THERE ARE SO MANY APPLICATIONS THAT CAN BE DONE AND MOLDED IN SO MANY WAYS INTO ANY PROJECT.

DOES IT REQUIRE A FULL OVERHAUL? NO, IT WORKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WILL IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? ABSOLUTELY. YES, IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO WATER QUALITY AND IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FLOOD ATTENUATION.

SO WHAT'S THE CITY DOING? WE'RE ADOPTING THE VOLUNTARY OR HAVE ADOPTED THE VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT ORDINANCE AND LOW IMPACT DESIGN MANUAL.

NOT STILL DRAFT.

I SHOULD HAVE DRAFT.

AND RIGHT NOW, OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IS WORKING ON A SMALL SUB BASED AND RETROFIT PROJECT THAT IS GOING

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THE IDEA IS TO HAVE NO NET RUNOFF.

THE EVEN THE TRUCK WASH WATER CAN BE TAKEN OFFSITE AND TREATED AS GREYWATER.

UM, THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A SMALL ONE.

AND THEN NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH STARTS FOR US IN OCTOBER, WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING AN ENTIRE RETROFIT PROJECT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS SITE BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN A BIT NEGLECTED.

IT'S BECOME SOMEWHAT, UH, VERY IMPERVIOUS.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, USING SOME LOW IMPACT TECHNIQUES, INCORPORATING IT INTO THE SITE AND REDUCING OUR RUNOFF, REDUCING OUR NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION FEASIBILITY STUDY HAS BEEN ONGOING AND IS COMING TO AN END THE SEPTEMBER 30TH, A LITTLE MORE THAN A MONTH FROM NOW.

AND WHAT THE STUDY IS DOING IS LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL COST BENEFIT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CERTAIN THINGS LIKE DREDGING, EVEN SEDIMENT, ISLAND REMOVAL.

WE'RE LOOKING AT UPSTREAM BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE GOING TO REDUCE SEDIMENTATION AND POLLUTANTS SO THAT IF WE DO DREDGE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP IN THE SAME SITUATION FIVE YEARS FROM TODAY.

SO THE STUDY WILL GIVE US SHELF READY PROJECTS AND GRANT READY PROJECTS TO OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IMPLEMENT FOR WATER QUALITY.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT OVERHAULING OUR EXISTING SYSTEM.

WE'RE SIMPLY ADDING, MODIFYING, ENHANCING SO THAT WATER QUALITY BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE DREDGED THE CREEK.

I THINK WE'VE DREDGED THE CREEK, VARIOUS PORTIONS OF IT, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

THE NEXT TIME WE DO SO, WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DO SO FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF DECADES.

THAT'S THE GOAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND UH, AGAIN, THE LOW IMPACT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT MANUAL, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ALL THE TENETS OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

YOU CAN READ THE MANUAL IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

SECTION ONE.

SECTION TWO IS THEORY, DESIGN, PROCESS, SIDE EVALUATION.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS A MANUAL THAT IS MADE FOR DESIGN STAKEHOLDERS, DEVELOPERS.

SO IT'S FAIRLY TECHNICAL, NOT SUPER TECHNICAL, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

IT'S NOT A YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, BUT IT'S IT'S TECHNICAL TO ASSIST OUR DEVELOPERS AND OUR ENGINEERS IN DESIGNING AND RETROFIT RETROFITTING SITES.

SECTION THREE IS A MEET.

IT'S OUR TOOLBOX.

IT'S WHAT THE SPECIFIC TOOLS ARE BY OUR ATTENTION AND RAIN GARDENS AND HARVESTING CISTERNS.

THE 3.3 HARVESTING CISTERNS IS WHAT WE WILL BE USING AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS SITE.

COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE WILL BE USING THOSE HARVESTING CISTERNS TO COLLECT ALL OF OUR RUNOFF AND THEN WE'LL BE USING PUMPS. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOLAR PUMPS, BUT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO IRRIGATE, AS I SAID, TO DO TRUCK.

WASHING AND SO ON DOWN SPOUT DISCONNECTION.

A REALLY SIMPLE THING THAT A HOMEOWNER CAN DO INSTEAD OF HAVING A DOWN SPOUT THAT DIRECTLY CONNECTS TO A POND WHICH WE CALL BOTTOM OF THE HILL OR END OF PIPE ONE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE THAT GETS STRESSED BECAUSE IT'S THE ONE WATER QUALITY BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE ON A SITE.

WE CAN DISCONNECT THAT THAT DOWN SPOUT AND HAVE THAT WATER IRRIGATE OUR NATURAL RAIN GARDENS INSTEAD OF USING POTABLE WATER.

SO WE HAVE THE WATER CONSERVATION ASPECT VEGETATED FILTER STRIPS SIMPLY IT COULD BE ANYTHING, NATIVE PLANTS, WHATEVER THAT USED BEFORE, SOME FORM OF POND OR OTHER BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE ALSO ENCOURAGES INFILTRATION, GRASS,

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THOSE ARE VERY OLD. YOU SEE THEM EVERYWHERE IN PALM BAY.

WE CALL THEM MISSED OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR GRASS SWALES ARE NOT THE ONES IN FRONT OF HOMES.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY VERY GOOD SWALES BUT THE MEDIANS THAT ARE GRASS THAT ARE NOT INDENTED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF VOLUME TO TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT WATER QUALITY BEFORE A DISCHARGE OF THE ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, A TIRE CRUMB AND THE OILS AND SO ON.

SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN QUITE USING OUR GRASS SWALES TO THEIR FULL POTENTIAL.

WE INTEND TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT THAT SECTION'S ABOUT, HOW IT WOULD GO ABOUT DESIGNING THOSE INFILTRATION TRENCHES, OR I'M THINKING MORE OF EXFILTRATION TRENCHES, BUT THEY ARE MORE OF A STRUCTURAL UNDERGROUND PIPE WITH HOLES, SOME GRAVEL UNDERNEATH, ALLOWING BOTH SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER TO PERCOLATE INTO THE INTO THE IN THE GROUNDWATER TABLE WHILE GETTING SOME TREATMENT THROUGH SOILS AND, AND GRAVEL AND BIO FABRIC LEVEL SPREADERS.

I WON'T EVEN GO INTO PERMEABLE PAVERS WE ARE USING RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A PARKING LOT ON MAIN STREET THAT IS PERVIOUS PAVEMENT.

IT HASN'T REALLY BEEN TESTED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GET USED THAT MUCH.

BUT THE THING ABOUT PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, ANY PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IN THE CITY IS AN ACTUALLY ANY OF THESE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IS MAINTENANCE.

AND YOU'LL SEE AT THE END OF THE MANUAL WE HAVE SEVERAL MAINTENANCE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE USED AND EXECUTED AND RECORDED BY THE DEVELOPER, THE OWNER, SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THEY USE THEIR PERMEABLE PAVERS FOR SOME EXTRA RETENTION, THEY'RE GOING TO RETAIN THEIR ABILITY TO ABSORB WATER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLEANED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE BASICALLY VACUUMED.

AND AGAIN, THAT WATER IS IS TREATED AT A GREYWATER AT A SANITARY FACILITY.

AND THEN SOIL REFORESTATION IS SORT OF SELF EXPLANATORY.

SO THESE ARE WHAT A FEW OF THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE.

A BIO SWALE IS SIMPLY A LONG I TALKED ABOUT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS IS WHAT WE COULD BE DOING AND WHAT WE WILL BE DOING GOING FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR GRASS MEDIANS, PUTTING SOME NATIVE PLANTS IN FOR EVAPOTRANSPIRATION, AND MAYBE EVEN HAVING UNDER DRAINS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL PERCOLATION AND VEGETATIVE FILTER STRIPS WHICH WE SPOKE ABOUT.

AND PERMEABLE PAVEMENT.

PERMEABLE PAVEMENT IS VERY SPECIFIC.

THE DESIGN OF IT IS VERY SPECIFIC AND THE MANUFACTURERS HAVE THEIR OWN MANUFACTURING SPECIFICATIONS.

SECTION FOR TELLS OUR DESIGNERS WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE FROM THEIR DESIGN.

SECTION FIVE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS.

THIS ACTUALLY GOES INTO A DETAIL LIKE YOU WOULD SEE A DETAIL OF A ROADWAY SECTION IN THE CITY OR ANY OF THE DETAILS THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL. IS THERE ACTUAL DETAILS FOR BUYER ATTENTION FOR RAIN GARDENS AND ALL OF THE OTHER? BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS I SPOKE ABOUT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

YOU IN THE CITY, WE WILL NOT BE GIVING LEAD CREDIT UNLESS THERE IS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND SCHEDULE THAT IS TAKEN UP.

WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE UP FRONT.

WE HAVE DRAFT ONES IN THE MANUAL TO BE USED TO MAKE IT REALLY EASY.

JUST SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE AND SAY THAT YOU RECORD IT, THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND SCHEDULES.

AND THEN THE LAST PART OF SECTION FIVE IS SOMETHING THAT WAS COMPLETELY ADOPTED FROM THE CITY OF TITUSVILLE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE I'M SORRY, THIS IS ONE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS THAT I WAS REFERENCING.

THIS IS ONE FOR RAIN GARDENS.

AND ACTUALLY OVER ON THE RIGHT IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEER WOULD PUT THIS SPECIFIC DESIGN THAT IS ACTUALLY THE DESIGN OF OUR EXISTING

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AND SO THIS THING THAT YOU CANNOT READ IS WHAT WE CALL A MATRIX THAT SPELLS OUT INCENTIVES AND TYPES OF BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BETTER HERE.

SO THE FIRST SECTION IS SITE PLANNING BUMPS AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE ARE.

PROTECT SURFACE WATER AND WETLANDS.

WELL, GO FIGURE. YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A NO BRAINER.

BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO PREFER TO MITIGATE THAN THAN PROTECT AND PRESERVE OPEN SPACE.

AGAIN, YOU WOULD THINK A NO BRAINER.

NATURAL AREA CONSERVATION, RETAINED TREE CANOPIES, NATURAL LANDSCAPING, CLUSTER DESIGNS, SO THAT YOU HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, JUST SIMPLE THINGS KEEP YOUR IMPERVIOUS AREAS TO THE MINIMUM YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO.

I MEAN, NOW WE HAVE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IF WELL DONE AND WELL MAINTAINED IT IT IS ACTUALLY A LOT LESS IMPERVIOUS.

RIGHT? SO YOU'RE STILL GETTING THE PARKING AREA YOU NEED, BUT YOU'RE GETTING STORAGE, YOU'RE GETTING ATTENUATION, YOU'RE GETTING WATER QUALITY TREATMENT.

SO MINIMIZING DIRECTLY WHAT WE CALL DCI, A DIRECTLY CONNECTED, IMPERVIOUS AREA.

AND THAT'S TAKE YOUR DOWNSPOUTS AWAY FROM DIRECTLY DISCHARGING INTO YOUR SWALE AT THE STREET OR DIRECTLY DISCHARGING INTO YOUR POND AND ALLOW IT TO FILTER THROUGH YOUR WHETHER IT'S YOUR LAWN OR YOUR NATIVE GARDEN.

AND THEN CURB ELIMINATION AND CURB CUTS WILL ALLOW OR ALLOW FOR RUNOFF TO ENTER OUR MEDIANS AND WATER OUR PLANTS BASICALLY.

SO WE HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL EVAPOTRANSPIRATION.

SO THOSE ARE SORT OF NON STRUCTURAL.

THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL SOURCE CONTROLS, MINIMIZING SOIL DISTURBANCE, BUILDING WITH THE LANDSCAPE SLOPE.

THESE THESE ARE THINGS THAT I EXPECT FROM CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT BECAUSE THE COOKIE CUTTER WAY IS EASY AND IT'S QUICK.

SO IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE ADOPTED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT EASY AND QUICK.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PUBLIC WORKS PROBABLY NEEDS TO WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS IN TERMS OF EVEN MORE DESIGN IN THE FUTURE.

FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND FERTILIZERS, RAINFALL, INTERCEPTOR TREES.

I CAN'T EVEN READ IT. INSTALL EFFICIENT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. SO YOU HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AND YOU HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT ARE ONES THAT IRRIGATE THE STREET.

THEY'RE ONES THAT IRRIGATE DURING THE BIGGEST RAINSTORMS. SO WE WANT EFFICIENT, WE WANT EFFECTIVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT HAVE MOISTURE SENSORS AND SO ON.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'LL BE USING OVER AT PUBLIC WORKS.

WHEN WE DO GET THAT PROJECT DONE, WE CAN HAVE IT AS SORT OF A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT FOR OUR DEVELOPERS SO THEY CAN SEE, HEY, THIS CAN ACTUALLY WORK.

SO THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR COLUMN, YOU KNOW, TO THE LEFT OVER THERE.

AND THEN GOING ACROSS THE ROW ON TOP ARE THE INCENTIVES THAT TITUSVILLE CURRENTLY OFFERS.

AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE WHOLE WORD, BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE DRAFT.

SO WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT AT WHAT THESE INCENTIVES ARE AND WHAT WE ARE INCENTIVIZING. AND TO GIVE GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK.

SOME OF THE INCENTIVES ARE PARKING INCENTIVES.

OTHERS ARE OPEN SPACE, LANDSCAPE OFFER AND SETBACK INCENTIVES.

YOU MAY BE ABLE TO REDUCE YOUR SETBACKS, YOUR YOUR OPEN SPACE OR YOUR RAIN GARDENS MAY BE CONSIDERED LANDSCAPING. REDUCE, BUILD.

OKAY, I ALREADY SAID THE SETBACKS, UH, AND THEN EXPEDITED APPLICATIONS.

AND I CAN GUARANTEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GO FOR THAT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THOSE THAT TRULY QUALIFY TO THE TOP OF THE PILE.

SO THEIR DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD FIRST, WHICH IS EVERYBODY KNOWS TIMING AND DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ANY DEVELOPER.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO OFFER AS WELL.

AND THIS LAST ONE IS STRUCTURAL.

AND THIS SPEAKS TO THINGS LIKE WHAT I REFERRED TO BEFORE, THE EXFILTRATION TRENCH, UNDERGROUND STORAGE.

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THESE ARE VERY, VERY, VERY POPULAR IN CITIES AND IN PARTICULAR IN ORLANDO, WHERE THERE'S THERE'S JUST NO MORE SPACE.

WE'RE FAIRLY FORTUNATE HERE IN PALM BAY.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF SPACE.

THEY DON'T YET, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPMENT.

SO A LOT OF THEIR STORAGE GOES UNDERGROUND.

THEY'RE ALSO HIGHER WE HAVE A HIGHER WATER TABLE, SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THAT TO WORK.

AND THEN I WOULDN'T REALLY CALL RAIN GARDENS STRUCTURAL, BUT THEY DO HAVE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS.

AS I SAID, THEY DO HAVE DETAILS VEGETATED SWALES, GREEN ROOFS WITH SISTER AND SORRY GREEN.

I AS A STUDENT WORKED ON ON GREEN ROOF.

ON A GREEN ROOF.

AND IT WAS IT WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING.

IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO IMPLEMENT IN ANY TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT IT REQUIRES STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS.

SO MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO FORTIFY A HOME OR A ROOF WITH A CAPACITY TO HOLD A GREEN ROOF.

BUT IF YOU LOOK IN MANY GERMAN CITIES, YOU'LL SEE THESE ADORABLE LITTLE WHAT I CALL HOBBIT HOUSES, AND THEY'RE COVERED IN GRASS AND THEY'RE SO CUTE. SO ANYWAY, NOT NOT THAT PRACTICAL, BUT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE, I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

STORMWATER HARVESTING SIMPLY REFERS TO USING YOUR PONDS TO IRRIGATE UP FLOW FILTER SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE THOSE CONCRETE BOXES THAT HAVE A MEDIA THAT ALLOWS THE POLLUTANTS TO ABSORB TO IT.

AND THEN DETENTION PONDS, MANAGED AQUATIC SPECIES.

SO THOSE ARE MANY AQUATIC PLANTS GROW NATURALLY FROM THE NUTRIENTS IN IN THE WATER COLUMN, THEREBY REMOVING THOSE NUTRIENTS.

SO WE HARVEST THOSE PLANTS AND WE DISPOSE OF THEM.

WE'RE REMOVING THE NUTRIENTS FROM FROM THE WATER AND WE ALLOW IT TO IT CAN BE REUSED ON LAND AS FERTILIZER, VARIOUS THINGS BY BIO FILTRATION SYSTEMS. BAM IS BIO ABSORPTION MATERIAL AND IT IS USED TO ENHANCE VARIOUS OTHER LEAD PRACTICES LIKE RAIN GARDEN. SO YOU COULD PUT A LAYER OF THAT BIO ABSORPTION MATERIAL RIGHT BELOW YOUR TOPSOIL AND YOU'RE GETTING THAT MUCH MORE NUTRIENT AND OTHER POLLUTANT FILTRATION.

ACTUALLY, YOU CAN YOU CAN DO IT IN CANALS, YOU CAN PUT IT ON CANAL BANKS, AND IT WILL FILTER THE WATER WITHIN THE CANAL.

COCOA BEACH HAS DONE A LITTLE DOWNTOWN, UH, AREA WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE INCORPORATED SOME BIO RETENTION AND CURB CUTS.

VERY SIMPLE, UM, TO GRAB SOME OF THAT WATER BEFORE IT GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE LAGOON.

AS I SAID, THEY'RE VERY, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE VERY GRAY AND AND THAT WATER IS SO CLOSE TO THE LAGOON OF THE BANANA RIVER, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH, BUT, UM, HUGE PROBLEM UP THERE IN COCOA BEACH.

SO THEY DECIDED TO TAKE THIS INITIATIVE.

SO IT REDUCES THE RUNOFF TO CANALS AND IT PROVIDES A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO STROLL AND SHOP.

KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE FOUR ARE DOWN.

YOU KNOW, UH, OUR RIVERFRONT EVENTUALLY WILL GET THERE.

SO IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE LOADS OF THEM OUT THERE.

WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THOSE PROJECTS READY TO GO.

PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS AND NON GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL OR KEEPER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

WELL, UH, MELBOURNE AND WEST MELBOURNE, UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO EVOLVE OUR ORDINANCE AND OUR, ON OUR MANUAL BASED ON OUR POSITIVE RESULTS. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD, OF COURSE, TO YOUR FEEDBACK.

AND SO TO CONCLUDE, WE A GOOD STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IS VITAL FOR FOSTERING ECONOMIC GROWTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS CUSTOMIZABLE TO ANY COMMUNITY.

NEW APPROACHES TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS AND HELP WITH FUNDING AND KNOW HOW ARE AVAILABLE.

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UM, THEY MAY EVEN BE, UM, AVAILABLE TO, TO PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, BUT THAT REMAINS TO, TO BE SEEN.

PALM BAY WANTS TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT WITH YOUR HELP.

AND THIS IS JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND RESOURCES.

A LOT OF THE INFORMATION IS IT'S NOT NEW.

IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT ON GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. AND ALL OF THE LOW IMPACT DESIGN MANUALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE ALSO ON THERE.

THERE'S ALACHUA COUNTY, PINELLAS COUNTY, THE CITY OF ORMOND BEACH, WHICH IS WHAT WE USED FOR OUR MODEL, BECAUSE ORMOND BEACH AND PALM BAY HAVE A SIMILAR, UM, GEOGRAPHY, HYDRO GEOLOGY AND SOUTH FLORIDA.

THEY HAVE RESILIENCE ISSUES IN ADDITION TO WATER QUALITY.

UH, SO ALL OF THAT'S ON THAT SITE.

AND THAT'S IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND START PASSING IT AROUND, UH, UP HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST. THEY GO FIRST.

I MAY NOT STOP. THIS IS SO EXCITING TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS AND I KNOW IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN TERMS OF.

THE INCENTIVES.

THE INCENTIVES.

ON FINANCIAL, BUT MORE.

OH, THAT IS GREAT.

I ALSO LIKE THAT IT IS.

WE'RE IN BUDGET TIME RIGHT NOW.

NIGHT IS. WORKSHOPS ON OUR BUDGET.

SO THIS IS HOW OUR AUDIENCE, OUR CITIZENS CAN HELP SAID TO GET SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS MANUAL BEYOND VOLUNTARY.

BUT WE HAVE A VOICE AND WE CAN ASK THAT OUR DEVELOPERS.

CITIZEN INPUT WE PURCHASE OURSELVES.

WE CAN ALSO ASK OUR DEVELOPERS.

MM HMM. FOLLOW THESE PRACTICES THAT WE WANT THEM.

WE AS A GROUP WANT THEM AND SEE THE NEED FOR THEM.

I WANT TO COMMENT ON YOUR IDEA TO HAVE IN ORDER FOR AN INCENTIVE TO BE GIVEN TO A DEVELOPER, THAT THEY MUST SIGN AN AGREEMENT REGARDING MAINTENANCE.

NOT MY IDEA, BUT YES, IT IS A GOOD ONE.

THAT IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA.

AND THAT ALSO DIRECTLY IMPACTS AGAIN ON OUR BUDGET.

OH. DO YOU NOT HEAR ME? IT ALSO IMPACTS DIRECTLY ON OUR BUDGET BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE TYPICALLY FOR THIS TYPE OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS LESS.

LESS COST, LESS STRESS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO START GETTING PEOPLE TO THINK IN TERMS WITH THE BUDGET JOBS, CREATION OF JOBS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW TYPE OF MAINTENANCE PERSON AND ONE THAT DOESN'T USE A.

MORE EQUIPMENT.

YEAH. SO.

AGAIN. I WANT TO END MY COMMENTS ON BUILDING E! SO I HOPE BUILDING E, WHICH IS TO BE BUILT THROUGH THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WILL HAVE EVERY SINGLE SECTION OF YOUR MANUAL IN THERE.

WELL, WE HOPE SO, TOO.

BUT TO GO BACK TO YOUR COMMENT ON, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC HAVING A VOICE, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

AND ONE OF THE INCENTIVES WHEN DISCUSSING THIS SORT OF THING IN THE FUTURE WITH WITH THE DEVELOPERS IS, YOU KNOW, TO TO BRING TO LIGHT THAT IRAN GARDEN IS AN AMENITY.

NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO WANT IT.

NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL AND IT'LL ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY HOW WE SORT OF COAX OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY INTO CREATING A BETTER ENVIRONMENT AND A BETTER CITY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YEAH, WE DO.

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SO. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR BOLDNESS IN DOING THIS AT A TIME.

I JUST DO WHAT I'M TOLD, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. I LOVE THIS ONE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME HERE TONIGHT WITH US.

THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING.

I THINK MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE DISCOVERED WHEN THEY'VE STARTED IMPLEMENTING THIS, AND I'M SURE COCOA BEACH FOUND IT TO BE TRUE THAT ONCE YOU HAVE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND FOR WILDLIFE AND FOR AND WE'RE NOT TALKING BEARS, WE'RE TALKING CATERPILLARS HERE WHEN WE SAY WILDLIFE, THAT WE COULD CREATE SOME CORRIDORS.

AND HERE'S YOUR TYPICAL HOUSE.

THIS MAYBE IS EVEN A LITTLE NON TYPICAL BECAUSE MOST NEW HOUSES DON'T HAVE ANY TREES.

BUT IF, SAY YOU GOT A FEW TREES IN YOUR YARD, IF YOU GOT TOGETHER AND JUST EVEN PLANTED TREES AROUND THE EDGE AND THEN PUT ALL THOSE HOUSES TOGETHER WITH THEIR EDGES, YOU WOULD HAVE CREATED A CORRIDOR FOR WILDLIFE SO THEY CAN MOVE THROUGHOUT THERE.

THE BIRDS HAVE A LOT OF SELECTION TO GO AFTER.

IF WE REPLANT HALF OF THE AREA NOW AND LAWN.

WE WOULD THAT WOULD COVER 20 MILLION ACRES, WHICH IS ALL OF THESE PLACES ADDED TOGETHER.

JUST BY GETTING RID OF HALF OF OUR LAWN FROM OPPORTUNITIES, PERHAPS LOCALLY, OUR MEDIANS.

A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF PUBLIC SETTINGS.

THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

THIS HOMEOWNER DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO WALK ON THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE, SO THEY REPLACED THEIR LAWN WITH THIS WONDERFUL, DIVERSE NATIVE PLANT COMMUNITY.

THERE'S ANOTHER ROADSIDE TYPE THING.

IS A CORPORATE LANDSCAPE THAT'S A WASTED OPPORTUNITY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING THE EMPLOYEES GO OUT AND ENJOY A LUNCHTIME IN FLORIDA? THIS WOULD BE MISERABLE.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T EVEN GO OUT THERE.

OR IS THIS SOMEPLACE YOU'D LIKE TO GO DURING YOUR LUNCH BREAK? IS THIS A TOP STREET YOU'D LIKE TO BE LIVING ON OR THE BOTTOM WITH THOSE GORGEOUS OAKS THAT TAKE A WHILE TO GROW? SO HE'S JUST SAYING, LET'S BALANCE IT OUT AND USE THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT HE'S HELPED US GATHER TO BALANCE THE EQUATION FOR CHOOSING PLANTS.

DOES YOUR YARD HAVE TO BE 100% NATIVES? NO, IT DOESN'T.

BUT I LOVE THIS ILLUSTRATION WHERE HE SAYS, THINK OF YOUR NON NATIVE PLANTS AS STATUES.

HOW MANY STATUES DO YOU WANT IN YOUR YARD? BECAUSE EVERY STATUE IS JUST THAT.

IT'S NOT CONTRIBUTING ANYTHING TO WILDLIFE.

AND IF YOU GO OUT IN YOUR YARD AND YOU LOOK AT THOSE CURTAINS AND THE OTHER STATUES THAT YOU HAVE THAT MIGHT LOOK PRETTY, THEN YOU REALIZE, WOW, THAT'S KIND OF A WASTE OF SPACE. MAYBE I COULD GET RID OF A COUPLE OF STATUES AND PLANT SOMETHING MEANINGFUL THERE.

IT KIND OF TAKES ON A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT YOUR YARD.

SO HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'VE SUCCEEDED? WHEN YOU GO OUT IN YOUR YARD AND YOU SEE SOME LEAVES THAT ARE CHEWED ON, THEN YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME INSECTS, THEY'RE CHEWING ON THEM.

AND AND I DON'T MEAN LIKE YOUR TOMATO PLANTS AND YOU WANT TO PUT WHITE POWDER ALL OVER THEM.

I MEAN, LIKE YOUR OAK TREE HAS SOME LEAVES ON IT THAT HAVE HOLES IN THEM, THAT HAVE EDGES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'VE BEEN EATING.

OR YOU HEAR SOME BABY BIRDS SQUAWKING.

I, I USED TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE SQUAWKING WAS ABOUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NOW I GET IT.

IT'S THE BABY BIRDS.

AND I. I MISS IT WHEN IT'S NOT THERE.

WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE.

SO WE CAN ONLY SAVE NATURE IF WE LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT.

AS THE LAST EXAMPLE, HERE IS THE ITALIAN ATALA BUTTERFLY THAT LIVES IN CENTRAL SOUTH FLORIDA THAT ALMOST WENT EXTINCT.

IS ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THIS? THE ITALIAN BUTTERFLY? NO, REBECCA WOULD BE. SO, LIKE 90% OF ALL INSECTS THAT HE PLANS TO.

ATALA IS A SPECIALIST AND ONLY EATS COUNTY PLANTS.

AND IT TURNS OUT THE COUNTY WAS ALMOST DRIVEN TO EXTINCTION BECAUSE IT WAS USED BY NATIVE AMERICANS, WHICH THEY WEREN'T THE PROBLEM AS A SOURCE OF STARCH BECAUSE IT HAS A HUGE ROOT BALL THAT YOU CAN GRIND UP FOR STARCH.

BUT THEY TAUGHT THE SETTLERS AND THE SETTLERS WIPED OUT THE COUNTIES SO IT WASN'T THE NATIVE GUYS.

SO ATTEMPTS TO GET THE ATALA BUTTERFLY WHO CAN ONLY EAT COUNTIES ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST FAILED BECAUSE NO ONE COULD FIND ANY ITALIANS.

BUT GUESS WHAT? LANDSCAPERS DISCOVERED COUNTIES.

AND I LOVE THAT RIGHT OUT HERE ON THE MEDIAN WE HAVE PLANTED PALM BAY HAS PLANTED A LOT OF THESE COUNTY PLANTS.

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I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY FEEL THE NEED TO TRIM THEM ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE TRIMMED.

BUT. BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE THERE.

OKAY, THAT'S A START.

SO RESIDENTIAL LANDSCAPES CAN BE A POWERFUL CONSERVATION TOOL.

AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT BACK THE TITLE OF BUTTERFLY.

SO THE THEORY ABOUT HOW PLANTS AND INSECTS AND WILDLIFE ALL GO TOGETHER, I THINK IS JUST AMAZING. I NEVER UNDERSTOOD ANY OF THIS UNTIL DR.

TELHAMI KIND OF LAID IT OUT.

AND I THINK HE DOES A GREAT JOB OF LAYING IT OUT IN TERMS WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IN HIS WORLD OF PHD, IT'S VERY SCIENTIFIC AND I WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING IT FOR FOR US HERE. HE'S WRITTEN A COUPLE OF BOOKS, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

THE BOOK ON THE LEFT IS BY HIM, AND HE ALSO HAS ANOTHER BOOK OUT.

HE'S GOT AN AWESOME WEBSITE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO CHECK IN TO SOME OF HIS READING.

AND IT'S CALLED HIS NEWEST ONE AS HOME GROWN NATIONAL PARK.

BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ UP ON THAT.

JUST A LITTLE PLUG FOR OUR CHAPTER.

WE'RE HERE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE NATIVE PLANTS IN SOUTH BREVARD.

AS I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER, THERE ARE NATIVE PLANT CHAPTERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

EVERY STATE HAS A NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY, SO NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, YOU CAN FIND OUT NATIVE PLANT INFORMATION.

ONE OF THE BIG EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE EVERY YEAR IS OUR ANNUAL NATIVE PLANT.

YOUR TOUR COMING UP HERE IN OCTOBER 15TH, TICKETS ARE ON SALE ON EVENTBRITE.

THEY'RE ONLY TEN BUCKS EACH.

BUT THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR FOR PALM BAY, IS ALL THE HOMES ARE EITHER IN MELBOURNE OR PALM BAY.

THAT'S FOUR OUT OF SIX HOMES ON THE TOUR ARE IN PALM BAY.

TURKEY CREEK IS FEATURED ON THE TOUR THIS YEAR.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SOME AWESOME PLANTS THERE AND THERE'S TWO OTHER PUBLIC SPACES ALSO ON THE TOUR.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHAT NATIVE PLANTS CAN LOOK LIKE IN YOUR YARD.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A 100% FOREST VIEW.

IT COULD BE A VERY MANICURED VIEW LIKE THE PICTURE AT THE BOTH OF THESE ARE FAIRLY MANICURED VIEWS.

SO JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE IDEAS AND TO SEE THE SIZE OF THE PLANTS AND HOW BIG THEY'RE GOING TO GET AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND TALK TO THE HOMEOWNERS ABOUT ANY CHALLENGES THEY'VE HAD. THERE'S ALSO THESE NATIVE PLANT FINDERS I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT ARE AVAILABLE RESOURCES.

IT WILL BE SO COOL IF A MUNICIPALITY LINK TO THESE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THEM.

AND THEN AND THEN THESE ARE NATIVE PLANT NURSERIES AND TIM AND ANA ARE HERE FROM IN PALM BAY.

YEAH, FROM THE NATIVE BUTTERFLY NURSERY.

THEY'RE A WONDERFUL SUPPLIER RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PRESENTATION.

BUT WHAT I WAS HOPING TO ENCOURAGE AT THE END IS JUST SOME DISCUSSION OR THOUGHT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, TO HAVE DISCUSSION.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES PALM BAY HAS, BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING WITH REBECCA AND SEEING THE SUSTAINABILITY STRATEGY PLAN THAT YOU ALL HAVE DEVELOPED, THAT IS AWESOME.

I COULD NOT THINK OF A SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN PALM BAY THAT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY NATIVE PLANTS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, EITHER IN THEIR LANDSCAPES, OR ENCOURAGING HOMEOWNERS OR ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES OR WRITING ORDINANCES.

AND I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH OF MANY OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE SATELLITE BEACH, BUT MANY OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTRY HAVE WRITTEN THOSE TYPES OF ORDINANCES TO START ENCOURAGING NOT JUST HOMEOWNERS, BUT BUSINESSES ON.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO ENCOURAGEMENT, FRANKLY, THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO JUST FLATTEN THE LAWN AND THAT'S IT. RIGHT.

BUT WITH A LITTLE ENCOURAGEMENT, DOESN'T TAKE MUCH AND SOME GREAT EXAMPLES THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN PROVIDE IN THE WAY OF THEIR SPACES USING PUBLIC PLANTS.

I MEAN, IT CAN GO A LONG WAY FASTER.

AND YOU'VE GOT THIS LITTLE ARMY HERE OF CONRAD DENA MEMBERS, GARDEN CLUB MEMBERS THAT ARE VERY WILLING TO HELP AND GET INVOLVED.

SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.

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WE MEET MONTHLY IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT IN COMING IN, THE MEETINGS ARE ON THE BACK OF THE BUSINESS CARD.

THAT SAID ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HIGGINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR.

I HAVE, UM, I HAVE A COMMENT THAT, UM, PEOPLE SEE TREES IN SOME CASES AS A BURDEN THAT THEY HAVE TO RAKE UP THE LEAVES AND MAINTAIN THE, YOU KNOW, UM. BUT MOSTLY TREES WOULD PREFER TO HAVE NATIVE LANDSCAPING UNDER THEM.

THEY DON'T REALLY LIKE MULCH SOAKING UP THE RAINWATER.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE NATIVE PLANTS TO PERCOLATE THE WATER DOWN SO THEIR ROOTS CAN SINK DEEPER AS THE NATIVE PLANT.

SINK DEEPER. AND THE NATIVE PLANTS LOVE THE LEAF LITTER.

THEY LOVE THE LEAF LITTER TO FALL.

AND THEN THE INSECTS HAVE A PLACE TO WINTER OVER TO BURROW.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE BIRDS OUT THERE PECKING AWAY IN THE LEAF LITTER.

SO IT'S REALLY A FULL CIRCLE AROUND THE TREE.

AND TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT IN A FULL CIRCLE WAY TO PLANT NATIVES UNDER THE TREE CANOPY.

AND OTHER STUDIES HAVE PROVEN THAT IT LOWERS MAINTENANCE COSTS BECAUSE THE MORE GRASS YOU GET RID OF, THE LESS MOWING, THE LESS GAS, THE LESS MAINTENANCE OF MOWING MACHINES, ALL THAT.

IT IS IT IS A WAY TO REDUCE COST FOR THE CITY AS WELL.

THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND I'M GOING TO HAVE THREE MINUTE CHICKADEE DREAMS AND WORRY.

BUT I WANTED TO ASK UNCLE BROWN WHO.

WITH US IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT OUR GROUP, OUR ADVISORY BOARD COULD ASK THAT THE.

DINAH. FLORIDA NATIVE SOCIETY COULD BE A RESOURCE FOR BUILDING E IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE LANDSCAPE.

AND JUST THESE IDEAS ARE.

WAY TO BEGIN WITH THAT.

A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING, BY THE WAY, HERE.

OH, GREAT. MM HMM.

WHICH NEW DEVELOPMENT IS THAT? THERE'S SOME. THERE'S SO MANY.

I CAN'T. BUILDING.

E WOULD BE ANOTHER CITY FACILITY RIGHT OUT HERE, OUT FRONT.

OH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THIS BOARD.

BOARD MEETINGS ARE INCORPORATING SUSTAINABLE AND GREEN DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT INTO THAT BUILD.

AND CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT INCORPORATING THAT.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN WAS WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE LIKE FOR THESE TYPES OF ECOSYSTEMS? AND SO YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME, I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE A BAD IDEA WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF WE'RE AT CONSTRUCTION BID AND WE ARE THEN LOOKING AT LANDSCAPING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR LOCAL NURSERIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO EVEN FURTHER CREATE A FACILITY THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND GREEN AND SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

THAT'D BE GREAT. TIM AND I DO LANDSCAPING FOR HOMEOWNERS BUSINESSES, SO THEY ARE THE PROS.

WE'RE THE BACKS THERE, BUT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

HIGGINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND IT REALLY WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

AND WE'RE REALLY BLESSED BY YOUR PRESENCE HERE.

THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU.

CAN THANK DR. TELHAMI.

HE'S THE THE GUY.

SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING SPECIFICALLY MS. HIGGINS PRESENTATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS RELATED TO THAT? THIS IS ELIZABETH BLACKFORD.

GOOD EVENING, ELIZABETH BLACKFORD.

483 NOGALES AVENUE, NORTHEAST IN PALM BAY.

THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU MY HOW IT IMPACTED ME.

TEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE MOVED TO THIS AREA, IT TOOK ME SIX MONTHS TO REEDUCATE MY EYE ABOUT WHAT PLANTS AND WHAT STUFF I WANTED IN MY YARD.

SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS TO BRING THEIR FAVORITE FROM WHATEVER STATE THEY'RE MOVING FROM DOWN HERE TO THE FLORIDA HOTHOUSE, WHERE IT GOES CRAZY,

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THEY'RE NOT USED TO THESE CONDITIONS AND THEY TAKE OVER.

SO I FOUND JOINING THE RODINA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY PARTICULARLY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT TAUGHT ME WHAT TO LOOK FOR, BUT ALSO IT TAUGHT ME TO LOOK FOR EXAMPLES.

AND LOOKING AROUND TOWN, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT.

IF I WERE REALLY WANTING TO SHIFT MY PLANTING BEHAVIOR, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES IN PUBLIC PLACES.

THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER TO URGE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE PUBLIC SPACES DEMONSTRATION GARDENS THAT PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF THESE THINGS.

IT'S LIKE HAVING A NATIVE YARD TOUR YEAR ROUND AND THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE PLACES, BUT THERE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.

IT SHOULD BE EVERYWHERE AND CITY HALL SHOULD BE A MASTERPIECE OF NATIVE PLANTS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ENCOURAGE HOAS TO SUPPORT THIS AND NOT FIGHT FOR HAVING THE MANICURED CLASSIC SOD YARD WITH.

OK. WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO PLANT AND LANDSCAPE BEFORE THEY CAN CLOSE ON A HOUSE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS STUFF.

WELL, LET'S GET THOSE REGULATIONS OUT OF THE WAY AND LET THEM HAVE SOME LEEWAY TO PUT IN SOME NATIVE PLANTINGS THAT ACTUALLY BELONG HERE.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF A PROGRAM CALLED THE BACK TEN FEET, LEAVING THE BORDERS OF OUR PROPERTIES IN NATIVE PLANTS.

THERE'S ALSO AROUND TOWN I THINK IT'S KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL HAS THE WE NOTICED SIGNS FOR BUSINESSES THAT HAVE PLANTED NATIVE.

WELL THERE SHOULD BE SOME NEAT INCENTIVES LIKE THAT FOR CITIZENS TOO.

WE JUST NEED TO STOP THE SODDING OR IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR GRASS TO TEACH HOMEOWNERS TO MOW DIRECTIONALLY SO THEY BLOW THOSE CLIPPINGS BACK ONTO THE LAWN, THEREBY NATURALLY FERTILIZING.

AND OF COURSE, THE LEAF LITTER BEING USED ON THE PROPERTY MAKES IT JUST FINE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM? SORRY, I'M NOT GOING TO PRONOUNCE THIS CORRECTLY.

THIS IS REBECCA HYDE.

AND. OKAY.

SO SORRY. BEING HERE.

HELLO. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY FOR 13 YEARS.

I HAVE THREE YOUNG CHILDREN THAT I'M HOMESCHOOLING, AND I STARTED NATIVE GARDENING ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO BECAUSE I LIVE ON A STREET NAMED MARIPOSA, WHICH IS SPANISH FOR BUTTERFLY.

AND WHEN I MOVED THERE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, I PLANTED ORNAMENTALS THAT WERE FLORIDA FRIENDLY FROM LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT.

ALL OF THEM DIED, MISERABLE, SLOW DEATHS.

AND SO I WAS LIKE, SURELY I CAN DO SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS.

AND I JUST LET IT GET OVERGROWN AND AWFUL.

AND WE JUST MOWED EVERYTHING DOWN BECAUSE NOTHING WOULD GROW.

AND THEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS LATER, I STARTED PUTTING IN A FEW NATIVE PLANTS AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF ONE OF MY FRIENDS, AND THEN IT BECAME A MASSIVE OBSESSION.

I NOW HAVE OVER 140 SPECIES ON MY QUARTER ACRE.

IT'S NOT A LARGE YARD.

I HAVE ALL OF THE TREES MENTIONED THAT ARE NECESSARY.

AND AS THIS HAS PROGRESSED OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, I HAVE DOCUMENTED OVER 20 DIFFERENT SPECIES OF BIRDS.

I HAVE DOZENS OF POLLINATORS, ALL KINDS OF WASPS AND MOTHS AND BUTTERFLIES AND BEES.

AND MY KIDS PLAY IN THE YARD EVERY SINGLE DAY BAREFOOT.

IT'S NOT A INSECT RIDDEN HEAP OF ANTS AND BEES EVERYWHERE.

WE DON'T HAVE STINGS OR BITES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WE HAVE SO MUCH BIODIVERSITY AND IT BRINGS OUR FAMILIES SO MUCH JOY THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH WILDLIFE.

AND AT FIRST MY NEIGHBORS WERE LIKE, WHAT IS SHE DOING OVER THERE? BECAUSE ALL MY NEIGHBORS HAVE VERY SHORT, VERY STANDARD LAWNS.

AND THEN AS TIME GOES ON, THEY'RE NOW SITTING OUTSIDE LOOKING IN MY YARD BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE ALL THE BIRDS AND THE BUTTERFLIES THAT ARE FLYING EVERYWHERE.

AND THEY HAVE COMMENTED LIKE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.

THEY SAY IT'S THE JUNGLE, BUT THEY ALSO SAY IT'S ALSO LIKE SO PEACEFUL AND BEAUTIFUL AND SO MUCH WILDLIFE AND THAT I'M RESTORING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO ME.

AND IT'S SO SAD TO ME THAT I'M THE ONLY ONE ON MY BLOCK THAT IS DOING THIS AND THE ONLY ONE THAT'S CARING ABOUT THAT.

THEY'RE ALL LIKE, IT'S GOOD FOR YOU, HONEY.

AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, REALLY, ALL OF US NEED TO BE DOING THIS.

AND SO I JUST I TRY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HAVE SIGNS ON MY YARD, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

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I GIVE SEEDLINGS AWAY.

I WOULD COME HELP PLANT PUBLIC SPACES.

ME AND MY KIDS WERE REALLY INTO IT.

I WOULD EVEN TEACH LITTLE CLASSES IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I COULD DO.

MY BACKGROUND IS AS A SCIENCE TEACHER AND I HAD NO IDEA THE IMPORTANCE OF NATIVES UNTIL JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.

EVEN GOING THROUGH COLLEGE FOR SCIENCE LIKE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS TALKED ABOUT NEARLY ENOUGH AND CERTAINLY NOT IN OUR SCHOOLS.

AND I LIVE RIGHT BY RIVIERA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THERE'S TONS OF OPEN GRASS SPACE, TONS.

CHILDREN ARE NOT RUNNING ON IT.

WHY IS IT NOT MEADOW? LIKE, WHY IS IT NOT A BIODIVERSE FOREST THERE, YOU KNOW, SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

HOW HARD IS. YES.

YOU CAN COME SEE MY JUNGLE.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FOR YOUR TIME AND CONTRIBUTION.

MS.. GWEN IACONO.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THIS MEETING TONIGHT.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO FIND OUT THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS EVEN THINKING ABOUT STUFF LIKE THIS.

MY NAME IS GWEN IACONO.

I'M ACTUALLY ANNA'S SISTER.

SO JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE, I'M A CONSERVATION SCIENTIST, SO I DO THINK ABOUT BIODIVERSITY CONSERVATION FOR A LIVING.

I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT THE CENTER FOR BIODIVERSITY OUTCOMES AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY, AND I WORK ON SORT OF GLOBAL CONSERVATION PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

BUT WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT IS THE THING THAT I CAN DO THAT CAN SORT OF HELP BIODIVERSITY IMMEDIATELY AT MY SCALE, PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I TELL THEM BECAUSE IT'S EASY, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR WHOLE YARD.

ONE PLANT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO AT SOMETHING THAT'S EASY.

AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE IF MUNICIPALITIES SORT OF PROMOTE THIS STUFF, IT'LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.

AND REBECCA BACA, I REALLY LIKED WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT SORT OF HAVING NATIVE PLANTS IN HER YARD FOR HER KIDS TO LEARN FROM.

SO, YOU KNOW, ANNA AND I GREW UP ON HEALD ROAD IN THE EIGHTIES.

THERE WAS NATIVE PLANTS EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? LIKE IT WAS THE EDGE OF TOWN, IT WAS FOREST.

AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE BOTH WORKING IN THE CONSERVATION FIELD.

RIGHT? WE GREW UP EXPERIENCING ALL THE PLANTS AND ALL THE INSECTS AND ALL THE BIRDS THAT WERE EVERYWHERE BEFORE IT WAS ALL LAWN AND BEFORE IT WAS ALL PARKING LOT. AND WE'RE WE'RE ALL WORKING TO TRY AND KEEP SOME OF THESE SPECIES AROUND BECAUSE THEY'RE OUR FRIENDS AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT FOR THE WORLD AND EVERYBODY. SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST HAPPY THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS DOING STUFF LIKE THIS AND.

THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL TALK.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BECAUSE I'M I'M DIGGING THE PARTICIPATION FOR THE RECORD, NATIVE NAZIS, USUALLY THERE'S JUST LIKE LIKE, OH, WONDERFUL CHAIRS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW? BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL YOU ALL ARE HERE THIS EVENING, I THINK.

ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION? SO NOW I'M VERY EXCITED THAT MS..

NATHALIE SCHAITBERGER FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WILL BE COMING AND PRESENTING ON THE VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

SHOULD I CALL IT? WAS IT A PROPOSAL? I GUESS IT'S APPROVED NOW, RIGHT? ORDNANCE. THERE WE GO. THAT'S THE WORD.

THE MANUAL IS STILL VERY MUCH IN DRAFT FORM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK.

PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU. AND SO GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS NATALIE SCHOBER.

OH. I COULD HAVE JUST PULLED IT FORWARD, BUT THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS NATALIE SHIBA AND I AM AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER BY TRAINING, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND WORK FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I TOO AM VERY PROUD THAT PALM BAY IS NOT ONLY CONSIDERING BUT ADOPTING A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE WILL INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPER LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN BOTH NEW AND REDEVELOPMENT SITUATIONS.

SO. HERE'S MY AU PAIR.

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SO I'M NOT SURE EVERYONE'S FAMILIARITY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE TERM LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GO TO TOO DEEP INTO IT, BUT LOW IMPACT ESSENTIALLY MEANS WE DO NOT WANT TO ADVERSELY IMPACT OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WHEN WE DEVELOP IT.

WE WANT TO WORK WITH IT.

WE WANT TO MANAGE STORMWATER AT ITS SOURCE.

WE WANT TO USE THE NATIVE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY AND NATIVE PLANTS.

YOU'LL SEE THIS IS THE FIRST SLIDE, UM, SHOWS THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A RAIN GARDEN, WHICH IS ONE OF THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX THAT YOU'LL SEE IN OUR MANUAL LATER ON.

ALL OF YOU, I'M SURE, ARE AWARE THAT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR ENVIRONMENT IN FLORIDA.

IT IT SOLVES TWO PROBLEMS IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.

ONE OF THEM, OF COURSE, IS FLOOD CONTROL.

THE OTHER IS WATER QUALITY.

SO IN PALM BAY IN FLORIDA, WATER IS IS OUR LIFE.

IT'S OUR GROUNDWATER OR DRINKING WATER.

AND THE REST OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PLAY IT.

WE WANT TO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUR SHELLFISH AND OUR FISH.

WE HAVE A VERY, VERY CLOSE LINK TO THE WATER.

AND THE GROUND AND SURFACE WATER ARE VERY, VERY CLOSELY LINKED.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CONVENTIONAL APPROACH TO MANAGING RUNOFF, GET IT AWAY FROM OUR BUILDINGS AND CARS AND US AS QUICKLY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO PREVENT FLOODING, WHICH IS A NATURAL.

OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO DO THAT.

RIGHT. OUR PROPERTY VALUES WOULD PLUMMET IF OUR HOUSE IF OUR IF OUR HOMES FLOODED EVERY TIME IT RAINS.

SO THIS CONVENTIONAL APPROACH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SEVERAL DECADES.

SO THE ISSUE, OF COURSE, IS THIS CONVENTIONAL APPROACH DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER SIDE OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS AND THE URL, WHICH IS A NATIONAL TREASURE, IT'S AN ESTUARY, AND IT IS GETTING LESS AND LESS HEALTHY EVERY YEAR.

SO LYD IS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

AS I SAID, LYD CAN BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE THE WATER QUALITY ASPECTS OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IN OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOOKING AHEAD TO DEVELOPING NATURAL SITES, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT WILL.

INSTEAD OF SCRAPING A LANDSCAPE AND REFILLING IT WITH NON NATIVE SOILS, WE WORK WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY AND WE SPOKE EARLIER.

THAT LAST PRESENTATION WAS VERY GOOD ABOUT NATURAL PLANTS, NATURAL ECOSYSTEMS, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, ESSENTIALLY. SEEKS TO ENHANCE AND TO USE THAT NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TO.

UM. PROVE TO DO WHAT IT WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO, AND THAT IS TO MANAGE STORMWATER BOTH FLOOD AND AND WATER QUALITY.

SO WE ALL KNOW THAT GROWTH WILL STRESS THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF, UH, PALM BAY AND TURKEY CREEK IN 1945.

A LOT OF IT WAS WATER.

THERE'S A SMALL COMMUNITY AT THE BAY ITSELF, AND THIS IS THAT SAME AREA IN 2017.

AND HEAVY RAINFALL, STILL A LOT OF WATER.

RIGHT. SO FIRST ONE WAS A LOT OF WATER.

THIS ONE'S A LOT OF WATER BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? WE LIVE IN FLORIDA. THERE'S A LOT OF WATER.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, IN 2017, WE HAVE WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY AND THIS IS NOT WHAT ANYONE WANTS TO SEE.

IT IS OBVIOUSLY A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM THAT IS NOT ABLE TO HANDLE THE LARGE STORMS THAT WE DO HAVE.

SO AS WE KNOW, RUNOFF FROM OUR ROADS ARE GOING TO CARRY ALL THE OILS AND CHEMICALS AND SO ON INTO OUR SYSTEM AND CREATE JUST A VERY POLLUTED DISCHARGE TO OUR TURKEY CREEK IN OUR URL. THIS IS JUST A SLIDE SHOWING A BIT OF TURKEY CREEK AND SOME FOLKS ENJOYING THEMSELVES.

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AS I SAID BEFORE, FRESH DRINKING WATER COMES FROM THE GROUND WHICH COMES FROM THE SKY AND INFILTRATES INTO THE EARTH.

VERY IMPORTANT FOR FISH AND SHELLFISH PROPAGATION AND GOOD STORMWATER MANAGEMENT THAT IS BOTH QUANTITY AND QUALITY MATTER MORE THAN EVER.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, ECONOMIC HEALTH, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S GOING TO SAVE TAXPAYERS IN THE LONG RUN, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. BOTH THE WATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY ASPECTS WHILE PROVIDING OTHER BENEFITS, SUCH AS INCORPORATING OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INTO OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT SLIDE SAID ADAPTING STORMWATER.

SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, MOST EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO DATE IS WHAT WE CALL GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE, GRAY BEING CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, ETC. GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE BENEFITS ARE GETS WATER AWAY QUICKLY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR FOR FLOOD ATTENUATION.

WE CAN ENHANCE THAT GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE BY ADDING LOW IMPACT WHAT WE CALL INTEGRATED MANAGEMENT PRACTICES OR BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO A TREATMENT TRAIN.

THAT TREATMENT TRAIN PROVIDES WATER QUALITY TREATMENT AND A SLOWER ABSORPTION OF THAT RUNOFF INTO THE GROUND.

OF COURSE, IT'S GOING TO ENCOURAGE EVAPOTRANSPIRATION FROM THOSE BEAUTIFUL PLANTS IN THAT PARTICULAR LITTLE WHAT WE CALL BIO RETENTION CELL.

AND OF COURSE, THAT EVAPOTRANSPIRATION IS GIVING US CLEAN WATER.

IF IT WERE PURELY A GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT RUNOFF THAT'S IN COCOA BEACH, BY THE WAY, IT WOULD BE GOING DIRECTLY FROM THAT STREET DOWN ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE OF PIPE RIGHT INTO THE EARL.

IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IT'S GOING THROUGH A BIO RETENTION CELL, BECOMING TREATED.

AND ANY THAT CANNOT BE HANDLED BY THAT, BY OUR ATTENTION CELL WILL GET WHISKED AWAY.

SO THE TWO WORKING TOGETHER ARE GOING TO GIVE US A MUCH BETTER WATER QUALITY GOING FORWARD.

GSI IS GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I EXPLAIN GRAY AS CONCRETE, GREEN AS YOU KNOW, OR NATIVE PLANTS OR BIO RETENTION CELLS.

AND AS OUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAYS, WHEN WE INCORPORATE THOSE THOSE NATURAL NATIVE PLANTS INTO OUR OUR HOMES, INTO OUR DEVELOPMENTS, WE DO A GREAT BENEFIT FOR BOTH THE ESTHETIC AND THE WATER QUALITY.

AND WATER QUALITY IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ECONOMIC BENEFITS.

THAT'S A PICTURE TAKEN FROM A RESTAURANT ALONG THE EARL RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

AS I SAID BEFORE, TOURISM IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SO WE NEED THAT BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, VIEW TO ATTRACT TOURIST DOLLARS TO OUR TO OUR CITY AND PROVIDE THAT REVENUE.

NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFITS, ALSO IMPORTANT, THAT WAS A STREET THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH LIKE OUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER WAS TALKING ABOUT, NICELY TREED.

AND SO AS A DEVELOPER, A DESIGNER OR A LAND DEVELOPMENT STAKEHOLDER.

IS IT IS IT COSTLY? IT'S ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AS CONVENTIONAL METHODS.

IS IT RIGHT? IT CAN THERE SO MANY APPLICATIONS THAT CAN BE DONE AND MOLDED IN SO MANY WAYS INTO ANY PROJECT.

DOES IT REQUIRE A FULL OVERHAUL? NO, IT WORKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WILL IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? ABSOLUTELY. YES, IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO WATER QUALITY AND IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FLOOD ATTENUATION.

SO WHAT'S THE CITY DOING? WE'RE ADOPTING THE VOLUNTARY OR HAVE ADOPTED THE VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT ORDINANCE AND LOW IMPACT DESIGN MANUAL.

NOT STILL DRAFT.

I SHOULD HAVE DRAFT.

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THE IDEA IS TO HAVE NO NET RUNOFF.

THE EVEN THE TRUCK WASH WATER CAN BE TAKEN OFFSITE AND TREATED AS GREYWATER.

UM, THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A SMALL ONE.

AND THEN NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH STARTS FOR US IN OCTOBER, WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING AN ENTIRE RETROFIT PROJECT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS SITE BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN A BIT NEGLECTED, HAS BECOME SOMEWHAT, UH, VERY IMPERVIOUS.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, USING SOME LOW IMPACT TECHNIQUES, INCORPORATING IT INTO THE SITE AND REDUCING OUR RUNOFF, REDUCING OUR NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION FEASIBILITY STUDY HAS BEEN ONGOING AND IS COMING TO AN END THIS SEPTEMBER 30TH, A LITTLE MORE THAN A MONTH FROM NOW.

AND WHAT THE STUDY IS DOING IS LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL COST BENEFIT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CERTAIN THINGS LIKE DREDGING, EVEN SEDIMENT, ISLAND REMOVAL.

WE'RE LOOKING AT UPSTREAM BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE GOING TO REDUCE SEDIMENTATION AND POLLUTANTS SO THAT IF WE DO DREDGE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP IN THE SAME SITUATION FIVE YEARS FROM TODAY.

UM, SO THE STUDY WILL GIVE US SHELF READY PROJECTS AND GRANT READY PROJECTS TO OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IMPLEMENT FOR WATER QUALITY.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT OVERHAULING OUR EXISTING SYSTEM.

WE'RE SIMPLY ADDING, MODIFYING, ENHANCING SO THAT WATER QUALITY BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE DREDGED THE CREEK.

I THINK WE'VE DREDGED THE CREEK, VARIOUS PORTIONS OF IT, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

THE NEXT TIME WE DO SO, WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DO SO FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF DECADES.

THAT'S A GOAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND UH, AGAIN, THE LOW IMPACT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT MANUAL, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ALL THE TENETS OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

YOU CAN READ THE MANUAL IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

SECTION ONE.

SECTION TWO IS THEORY, DESIGN, PROCESS, SIDE EVALUATION.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS A MANUAL THAT IS MADE FOR DESIGN STAKEHOLDERS, DEVELOPERS.

SO IT'S FAIRLY TECHNICAL, NOT SUPER TECHNICAL, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

IT'S NOT A YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, BUT IT'S IT'S TECHNICAL TO ASSIST OUR DEVELOPERS AND OUR ENGINEERS IN DESIGNING AND RETROFIT RETROFITTING SITES.

SECTION THREE IS A MEET.

IT'S OUR TOOLBOX.

IT'S WHAT THE SPECIFIC TOOLS ARE BY OUR ATTENTION AND RAIN GARDENS AND HARVESTING SYSTEMS. THE 3.3 HARVESTING CISTERNS IS WHAT WE WILL BE USING AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS SITE.

COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE WILL BE USING THOSE HARVESTING CISTERNS TO COLLECT ALL OF OUR RUNOFF AND THEN WE'LL BE USING PUMPS. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOLAR PUMPS, BUT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO IRRIGATE, AS I SAID, TO DO TRUCK.

WASHING AND SO ON, DOWN SPOUT DISCONNECT.

AND A REALLY SIMPLE THING THAT A HOMEOWNER CAN DO INSTEAD OF HAVING A DOWN SPOUT THAT DIRECTLY CONNECTS TO A POND WHICH WE CALL BOTTOM OF THE HILL OR END OF PIPE ONE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE THAT GETS STRESSED BECAUSE IT'S THE ONE WATER QUALITY BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE ON A SITE.

WE CAN DISCONNECT THAT THAT DOWN SPOUT AND HAVE THAT WATER IRRIGATE OUR NATURAL RAIN GARDENS INSTEAD OF USING POTABLE WATER.

SO WE HAVE THE WATER CONSERVATION ASPECT VEGETATED FILTER STRIPS SIMPLY IT COULD BE ANYTHING, NATIVE PLANTS, WHATEVER

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THOSE ARE VERY OLD. YOU SEE THEM EVERYWHERE IN PALM BAY.

WE CALL THEM MISSED OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR GRASS SOILS ARE NOT THE ONES IN FRONT OF HOMES.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY VERY GOOD SOILS.

BUT THE MEDIANS THAT ARE GRASS THAT ARE NOT INDENTED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF VOLUME TO TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT WATER QUALITY BEFORE A DISCHARGE OF THE ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, A TIRE CRUMB AND THE OILS AND SO ON.

SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN QUITE USING OUR GRASS WHEELS TO THEIR FULL POTENTIAL.

WE INTEND TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT THAT SECTION'S ABOUT, HOW IT WOULD GO ABOUT DESIGNING THOSE INFILTRATION TRENCHES, OR I'M THINKING MORE OF EXFILTRATION TRENCHES, BUT THEY ARE MORE OF A STRUCTURAL UNDERGROUND PIPE WITH HOLES, SOME GRAVEL UNDERNEATH, ALLOWING BOTH SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER TO PERCOLATE INTO THE INTO THE IN THE GROUNDWATER TABLE WHILE GETTING SOME TREATMENT THROUGH SOILS AND, AND GRAVEL AND BIO FABRIC LEVEL SPREADERS.

I WON'T EVEN GO INTO PERMEABLE PAVERS WE ARE USING RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A PARKING LOT ON MAIN STREET THAT IS PERVIOUS PAVEMENT.

IT HASN'T REALLY BEEN TESTED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GET USED THAT MUCH.

BUT THE THING ABOUT PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, ANY PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IN THE CITY IS AN ACTUALLY ANY OF THESE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IS MAINTENANCE.

AND YOU'LL SEE AT THE END OF THE MAN YOU ALL, WE HAVE SEVERAL MAINTENANCE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE USED AND EXECUTED AND RECORDED BY THE DEVELOPER, THE OWNER, SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THEY USE THEIR PERMEABLE PAVERS FOR SOME EXTRA RETENTION, THEY'RE GOING TO RETAIN THEIR ABILITY TO ABSORB WATER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLEANED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE BASICALLY VACUUMED.

AND AGAIN, THAT WATER IS IS TREATED AT A GREYWATER AT A SANITARY FACILITY.

AND THEN SOIL REFORESTATION IS SORT OF SELF EXPLANATORY.

SO THESE ARE WHAT A FEW OF THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE.

A BIO SWALE IS SIMPLY A LONG I TALKED ABOUT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS IS WHAT WE COULD BE DOING AND WHAT WE WILL BE DOING GOING FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR GRASS MEDIANS, PUTTING SOME NATIVE PLANTS IN FOR EVAPOTRANSPIRATION, AND MAYBE EVEN HAVING UNDER DRAINS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL PERCOLATION AND VEGETATIVE FILTER STRIPS WE SPOKE ABOUT.

AND PERMEABLE PAVEMENT.

PERMEABLE PAVEMENT IS VERY SPECIFIC.

THE DESIGN OF IT IS VERY SPECIFIC AND THE MANUFACTURERS HAVE THEIR OWN MANUFACTURING SPECIFICATIONS.

SECTION FOR TELLS OUR DESIGNERS WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE FROM THEIR DESIGN.

SECTION FIVE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS.

THIS ACTUALLY GOES INTO A DETAIL LIKE YOU WOULD SEE A DETAIL OF A ROADWAY SECTION IN THE CITY OR ANY OF THE DETAILS THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANUALS, THEIR ACTUAL DETAILS FOR BUYER ATTENTION FOR RAIN GARDENS AND ALL OF THE OTHER.

BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS I SPOKE ABOUT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

YOU IN THE CITY, WE WILL NOT BE GIVING LEAD CREDIT UNLESS THERE IS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND SCHEDULE THAT IS TAKEN UP.

WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE UP FRONT.

WE HAVE DRAFT ONES IN THE MANUAL TO BE USED TO MAKE IT REALLY EASY.

JUST SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE AND SAY THAT YOU RECORD IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

AND SCHEDULES.

AND THEN THE LAST PART OF SECTION FIVE IS SOMETHING THAT WAS COMPLETELY ADOPTED FROM THE CITY OF TITUSVILLE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE I'M SORRY, THIS IS ONE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS THAT I WAS REFERENCING.

THIS IS ONE FOR RAIN GARDENS.

AND ACTUALLY OVER ON THE RIGHT IS WHERE THE ENGINEER WOULD PUT THIS SPECIFIC DESIGN.

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AND SO THIS THING THAT YOU CANNOT READ IS WHAT WE CALL A MATRIX THAT SPELLS OUT INCENTIVES AND TYPES OF BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BETTER HERE.

SO THE FIRST SECTION IS SITE PLANNING BUMPS AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE ARE.

PROTECT SURFACE WATER AND WETLANDS.

WELL, GO FIGURE. YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A NO BRAINER.

BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO PREFER TO MITIGATE THAN THAN PROTECT AND PRESERVE OPEN SPACE.

AGAIN, YOU WOULD THINK A NO BRAINER.

NATURAL AREA CONSERVATION, RETAINED TREE CANOPIES, NATURAL LANDSCAPING, CLUSTER DESIGN, SO THAT YOU HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, JUST SIMPLE THINGS KEEP YOUR IMPERVIOUS AREAS TO THE MINIMUM YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO.

I MEAN, NOW WE HAVE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IF WELL DONE AND WELL MAINTAINED IT IT IS ACTUALLY A LOT LESS IMPERVIOUS.

RIGHT? SO YOU'RE STILL GETTING THE PARKING AREA YOU NEED, BUT YOU'RE GETTING STORAGE, YOU'RE GETTING ATTENUATION, YOU'RE GETTING WATER QUALITY TREATMENT.

SO MINIMIZING DIRECTLY WHAT WE CALL DCI, A DIRECTLY CONNECTED, IMPERVIOUS AREA.

AND THAT'S TAKE YOUR DOWNSPOUTS AWAY FROM DIRECTLY DISCHARGING INTO YOUR SWALE AT THE STREET OR DIRECTLY DISCHARGING INTO YOUR POND AND ALLOW IT TO FILTER THROUGH YOUR WHETHER IT'S YOUR LAWN OR YOUR NATIVE GARDEN.

AND THEN CURB ELIMINATION AND CURB CUTS WILL ALLOW OR ALLOW FOR RUNOFF TO ENTER OUR MEDIANS AND WATER OUR PLANTS BASICALLY.

SO WE HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL EVAPOTRANSPIRATION.

SO THOSE ARE SORT OF NON STRUCTURAL.

THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL SOURCE CONTROLS, MINIMIZING SOIL DISTURBANCE, BUILDING WITH THE LANDSCAPE SLOPE.

THESE THESE ARE THINGS THAT I EXPECT FROM CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT BECAUSE THE COOKIE CUTTER WAY IS EASY AND IT'S QUICK.

SO IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE ADOPTED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT EASY AND QUICK.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PUBLIC WORKS PROBABLY NEEDS TO WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS IN TERMS OF EVEN MORE DESIGN IN THE FUTURE.

FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND FERTILIZERS, RAINFALL, INTERCEPTOR TREES.

I CAN'T EVEN READ IT. INSTALL EFFICIENT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. SO YOU HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AND YOU HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT ARE ONES THAT IRRIGATE THE STREET.

THEY'RE ONES THAT IRRIGATE DURING THE BIGGEST RAINSTORMS. SO WE WANT EFFICIENT, WE WANT EFFECTIVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT HAVE MOISTURE SENSORS AND SO ON.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'LL BE USING OVER AT PUBLIC WORKS.

WHEN WE DO GET THAT PROJECT DONE, WE CAN HAVE IT AS SORT OF A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT FOR OUR DEVELOPERS SO THEY CAN SEE, HEY, THIS CAN ACTUALLY WORK.

SO THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR COLUMN, YOU KNOW, TO THE LEFT OVER THERE.

AND THEN GOING ACROSS THE ROW ON TOP ARE THE INCENTIVES THAT TITUSVILLE CURRENTLY OFFERS.

AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE WHOLE WORD, BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE DRAFT.

SO WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT AT WHAT THESE INCENTIVES ARE AND WHAT WE ARE INCENTIVIZING. AND TO GIVE GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK.

SOME OF THE INCENTIVES ARE PARKING INCENTIVES.

OTHERS ARE OPEN SPACE, LANDSCAPE OFFER AND SETBACK INCENTIVES.

YOU MAY BE ABLE TO REDUCE YOUR SETBACKS, YOUR YOUR OPEN SPACE OR YOUR RAIN GARDENS MAY BE CONSIDERED LANDSCAPING. REDUCE, BUILD.

OKAY, I ALREADY SAID THE SETBACKS, UH, AND THEN EXPEDITED APPLICATIONS.

AND I CAN GUARANTEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GO FOR THAT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THOSE THAT TRULY QUALIFY TO THE TOP OF THE PILE.

SO THEIR DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD FIRST, WHICH IS EVERYBODY KNOWS TIMING AND DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ANY DEVELOPER.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO OFFER AS WELL.

AND THIS LAST ONE IS STRUCTURAL.

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WE HAVE ALL KINDS. KINDS OF TANKS THAT DO UNDERGROUND STORAGE.

THESE ARE VERY, VERY, VERY POPULAR IN CITIES AND IN PARTICULAR IN ORLANDO, WHERE THERE'S THERE'S JUST NO MORE SPACE.

WE'RE FAIRLY FORTUNATE HERE IN PALM BAY.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF SPACE.

THEY DON'T YET, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPMENT.

SO A LOT OF THEIR STORAGE GOES UNDERGROUND.

THEY'RE ALSO HIGHER WE HAVE A HIGHER WATER TABLE, SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THAT TO WORK.

AND THEN I WOULDN'T REALLY CALL RAIN GARDENS STRUCTURAL, BUT THEY DO HAVE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS.

AS I SAID, THEY DO HAVE DETAILS VEGETATED SWALES, GREEN ROOFS WITH SISTER AND SORRY GREEN.

I AS A STUDENT WORKED ON ON GREEN ROOF.

ON A GREEN ROOF.

AND IT WAS IT WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING.

IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO IMPLEMENT IN ANY TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT IT REQUIRES STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS.

SO MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO FORTIFY A HOME OR A ROOF WITH A CAPACITY TO HOLD A GREEN ROOF.

BUT IF YOU LOOK IN MANY GERMAN CITIES, YOU'LL SEE THESE ADORABLE LITTLE WHAT I CALL HOBBIT HOUSES, AND THEY'RE COVERED IN GRASS AND THEY'RE SO CUTE. SO ANYWAY, NOT NOT THAT PRACTICAL, BUT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE.

I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

STORMWATER HARVESTING SIMPLY REFERS TO USING YOUR PONDS TO IRRIGATE UP FLOW FILTER SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE THOSE CONCRETE BOXES THAT HAVE A MEDIA THAT ALLOWS THE POLLUTANTS TO ABSORB TO IT.

AND THEN DETENTION PONDS, MANAGED AQUATIC SPECIES.

SO THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, MANY AQUATIC PLANTS GROW NATURALLY FROM THE NUTRIENTS IN IN THE WATER COLUMN, THEREBY REMOVING THOSE NUTRIENTS.

SO WE HARVEST THOSE PLANTS AND WE DISPOSE OF THEM.

WE'RE REMOVING THE NUTRIENTS FROM FROM THE WATER AND WE ALLOW IT TO IT CAN BE REUSED ON LAND AS FERTILIZER, VARIOUS THINGS VIA BIO FILTRATION SYSTEMS. BAM IS BIO ABSORPTION MATERIAL AND IT IS USED TO ENHANCE VARIOUS OTHER LAND PRACTICES LIKE RAIN GARDEN. SO YOU COULD PUT A LAYER OF THAT BIO ABSORPTION MATERIAL RIGHT BELOW YOUR TOPSOIL AND YOU'RE GETTING THAT MUCH MORE NUTRIENT AND OTHER POLLUTANT FILTRATION.

ACTUALLY, YOU CAN YOU CAN DO IT IN CANALS, YOU CAN PUT IT ON CANAL BANKS, AND IT WILL FILTER THE WATER WITHIN THE CANAL.

COCOA BEACH HAS DONE LITTLE DOWNTOWN, UH, AREA WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE INCORPORATED SOME BIO RETENTION AND CURB CUTS.

VERY SIMPLE TO GRAB SOME OF THAT WATER BEFORE IT GOES DIRECTLY INTO LAGOON.

AS I SAID, THEY'RE VERY YOU KNOW, THERE WERE VERY GRAY AND AND THAT WATER IS SO CLOSE TO THE LAGOON OF THE BANANA RIVER, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH, BUT IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM UP THERE IN COCOA BEACH.

SO THEY DECIDED TO TAKE THIS INITIATIVE.

SO IT REDUCES THE RUNOFF TO CANALS AND IT PROVIDES A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO STROLL AND SHOP.

KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE FOUR OR DOWN, YOU KNOW, OUR RIVERFRONT EVENTUALLY WILL GET THERE.

SO IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE LOADS OF THEM OUT THERE.

WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THOSE PROJECTS READY TO GO.

PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS AND NON GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL OR KEEPER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WELL, MELBOURNE AND WEST MELBOURNE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO EVOLVE OUR ORDINANCE AND OUR ON OUR MANUAL BASED ON OUR POSITIVE RESULTS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD, OF COURSE TO YOUR FEEDBACK.

AND SO TO CONCLUDE, WE A GOOD STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IS VITAL FOR FOSTERING ECONOMIC GROWTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS CUSTOMIZABLE TO ANY COMMUNITY.

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UH, TO THE CITY FROM STATE AND FEDERAL SOURCES.

THEY MAY EVEN BE, UH, UM, AVAILABLE TO, TO PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, BUT THAT REMAINS TO, TO BE SEEN.

PALM BAY WANTS TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT WITH YOUR HELP.

AND THIS IS JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND RESOURCES.

A LOT OF THE INFORMATION IS IT'S NOT NEW.

IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT ON GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. AND ALL OF THE LOW IMPACT DESIGN MANUALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE ALSO ON THERE.

THERE'S ALACHUA COUNTY, PINELLAS COUNTY, THE CITY OF ORMOND BEACH, WHICH IS WHAT WE USE FOR OUR MODEL, BECAUSE ORMOND BEACH AND PALM BAY HAVE A SIMILAR, UM, GEOGRAPHY, HYDRO GEOLOGY AND SOUTH FLORIDA.

THEY HAVE RESILIENCE ISSUES IN ADDITION TO WATER QUALITY.

UH, SO ALL OF THAT'S ON THAT SITE.

AND THAT'S IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND START PASSING IT AROUND, UH, UP HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST. LET ME GO FIRST BECAUSE I MAY NOT STOP THERE.

GREAT SHAPE IS SO.

EXCITING TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS AND HOW I KNOW IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN TERMS OF.

THE INCENTIVES.

MAKING THE INCENTIVES.

NON-FINANCIAL, BUT MORE.

OH, THAT IS GREAT.

I ALSO LIKE THAT IT IS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN BUDGET TIME RIGHT NOW.

IS. WORKSHOPS ON OUR BUDGET.

SO THIS IS HOW OUR AUDIENCE, OUR CITIZENS CAN HELP SAID TO GET SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS MANUAL BEYOND VOLUNTARY.

BUT WE HAVE A VOICE AND WE CAN ASK THAT OUR DEVELOPERS.

CITIZEN INPUT WE PURCHASE OURSELVES.

WE CAN ALSO ASK OUR DEVELOPERS.

MM HMM. FOLLOW THESE PRACTICES THAT WE WANT THEM.

WE AS A GROUP WANT THEM AND SEE THE NEED FOR THEM.

I WANT TO COMMENT ON YOUR IDEA TO HAVE IN ORDER FOR AN INCENTIVE TO BE GIVEN TO A DEVELOPER, THAT THEY MUST SIGN AN AGREEMENT REGARDING MAINTENANCE.

NOT MY IDEA, BUT YES, IT IS A GOOD ONE.

THAT IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA.

AND THAT ALSO DIRECTLY IMPACTS AGAIN ON OUR BUDGET.

OH. YOU NOT HEAR ME? IT ALSO IMPACTS DIRECTLY ON OUR BUDGET BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE TYPICALLY FOR THIS TYPE OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS LESS LESS COST, LESS STRESS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO START GETTING PEOPLE TO THINK IN TERMS WITH THE BUDGET JOBS, CREATION OF JOBS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW TYPE OF MAINTENANCE PERSON AND ONE THAT DOESN'T USE A.

MORE EQUIPMENT.

YEAH. SO.

AGAIN. I WANT TO END MY COMMENTS ON BUILDING E! SO I HOPE BUILDING E, WHICH IS TO BE BUILT THROUGH THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WILL HAVE EVERY SINGLE SECTION OF YOUR MANUAL IN THERE.

WELL, WE HOPE SO, TOO.

BUT TO GO BACK TO YOUR COMMENT ON, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC HAVING A VOICE, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

AND ONE OF THE INCENTIVES WHEN DISCUSSING THIS SORT OF THING IN THE FUTURE WITH WITH THE DEVELOPERS IS, YOU KNOW, TO TO BRING TO LIGHT THAT IRAN GARDEN IS AN AMENITY.

NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO WANT IT.

NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL AND IT'LL ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY HOW WE SORT OF COAX OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY INTO CREATING

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WE WANT WE WANT A NICER YARD AND ONE THAT IS GOING TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND NOT DESTROY IT.

SO. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR BOLDNESS IN DOING THIS AT A TIME.

SO I JUST DO WHAT I'M TOLD, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. I LOVE THIS.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME HERE TONIGHT WITH US.

THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING I THINK MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE DISCOVERED WHEN THEY'VE STARTED IMPLEMENTING THIS, AND I'M SURE COCOA BEACH FOUND IT TO BE TRUE THAT ONCE YOU HAVE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE VALUE IT AND AND THE ABSTRACT ON PAPER, MAYBE THEY SEEM DISMISSIVE OR UNCARING, BUT WHEN IT'S PRESENT IN THE COMMUNITY, IT IS A MORE PLEASANT PLACE TO BE, TO LIVE, TO WORK AND TO PLAY, FRANKLY.

SO THANK YOU.

YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

MM HMM. ANY QUESTIONS OR.

UM. I'M SO EXCITED.

OH, I KNOW. I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU.

I WAS JUST BEING POLITE. UM, SO I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, THAT YOU DESIRED FEEDBACK FROM OUR BOARD AND I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THAT IS OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN IT IN.

UM. MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE MULTIPART.

THE FIRST THING IS, WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? YOU MENTIONED THE INCENTIVES, BUT WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU HAVE IDEAS FOR GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU'VE SEEN SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT HAS TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTABLE.

SO IT'S GOT TO HAVE SOME DESIGN BEHIND IT.

AND THERE ARE LOADS OF RESOURCES FOR THAT.

THE STORMWATER.

LET ME SEE. STORMWATER RULE WAS LOOKED AT IN 2010 BY THE FDP AND IT LOST TRACTION DUE TO A CERTAIN GOVERNOR.

AND IT DIDN'T STOP A VERY GREAT DRAFT MANUAL WITH JUST ABOUT EVERY MANAGEABLE BUMP THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST A FEW.

SO IF YOU SEE ANY THAT YOU THINK WOULD WORK WELL IN OUR ENVIRONMENT, IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THAT WOULD BE EASY TO IMPLEMENT AND HAVE THE DESIGN STRUCTURE, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

WE CAN ADD THAT.

PERFECT. UM, I'LL, I'LL ASK NEAR THE END OF OUR MEETING THAT WE ADD THAT TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND GET THE RESOURCES AND COME BACK WITH DETAILS FOR YOU ON THAT.

OKAY. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE WOULD BE REGARDING THE INCENTIVES.

WELL, ACTUALLY REGARDING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE INCENTIVE, I SHOULD SAY YOU HAD MENTIONED ON THERE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EVALUATION OF KIND OF HOW AND I UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS TAKE TIME. MM HMM.

WHAT ARE IS THIS GOING TO BE LIKE AN ONGOING ITERATION? WILL YOU HAVE MILESTONE CHECK INS? I THINK WHAT I'M REALLY ASKING IS WHEN CAN WE START GETTING UPDATES ON THE EFFECTIVENESS OF IT? AND THAT'S JUST US BEING EAGER BEAVERS BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY EXCITING AND WE ARE REALLY HOPING TO ONE DAY SEE THAT WORD VOLUNTARY DROP.

RIGHT. YEAH.

SO GREAT QUESTION.

AND WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AS AN ENORMOUS SCIENCE EXPERIMENT AND WE CAN SET MILESTONES AND CHECK ENDPOINTS AND AND AND DO DATA GATHERING.

I SAY WE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, THE CITY RIGHT NOW HAS THE RESOURCES, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE.

THEY, THEY, THEY BUILD THESE MAPS, THEY CREATE THEM.

AND A LOT OF THEM DO HAVE DEEPER POCKETS AND WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE WILLING TO DO WATER QUALITY ANALYZES.

UM, SO I LIKE THE IDEA A LOT.

I THINK A CHECK IN OR A MILESTONE TO SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL, FIRST OF ALL, HOW SUCCESSFUL THE VOLUNTARY, UH, UM, ASPECT OF IT IS.

SO ARE THE INCENTIVES WORKING AND THEN HOW SUCCESSFUL ARE THE ACTUAL BNPS, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY WORKING? SO, YOU KNOW, WE START WITH A BACKGROUND WHICH IS TODAY, UM, WE GOT NOTHING, NOBODY IS.

SO THAT'S EASY.

AND THEN A YEAR FROM NOW, WE CAN SEE HOW MANY WE HAVE.

UM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SIX MONTHS, MAYBE SIX MONTHS.

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IT'LL TAKE AT LEAST A YEAR.

BUT WE DO HAVE BACKGROUND WATER QUALITY DATA AND WE DO ALREADY, OF COURSE, HAVE, UM, AGENCIES THAT DO WATER QUALITY TESTING CONTINUOUSLY LIKE THE DISTRICT. AND I KNOW THERE ARE OTHERS PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS.

SO, UH, I LIKE THAT IDEA AND WE WILL SET UP A SCHEDULE OF MILESTONES.

THANK YOU. AWESOME.

UM, I'M SO EXCITED.

AND SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR IS SOONER THAN I WAS EXPECTING.

YEAH. MY NEXT QUESTION IS YOU MENTION NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT.

I AM SO SORRY. I'M ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

NO, YOU HAVE A WHOLE AUDIENCE THERE THAT'S GOING TO ASK TWO HEADS UP.

OKAY. UM, SO MY, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'M WONDERING ABOUT TOO IS I THINK A LOT OF US UNDERSTAND THAT AS HOMEOWNERS IN PALM BAY, UM, THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING THINGS ON OUR OWN PROPERTY, WE WANT TO SEE SOME OF THESE KIND OF, I GUESS WHEN WHAT I'M ASKING IS, WILL THIS, DOES THIS AFFECT HOMEOWNERS IN ANY WAY WHEN THEY GO TO DO ANY REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY? YEAH. UM, AGAIN, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

WELL, THERE'S IN PALM BAY, THERE ARE LIKE ALMOST TWO SETS OF HOMEOWNERS AND THE ONES THAT I WANT TO CALL THE ORIGINAL PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

SO THERE'S NO REAL AWAY.

EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

UM, I'M RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT.

NO. SO.

AND, AND YOUR QUESTION IS, HOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO.

TO EDUCATE THOSE? SO. I'M ALSO THE NPD IS COORDINATOR.

AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S A NATIONAL POLLUTANT.

POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM.

THANK YOU. IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO.

ANYWAYS, SO THE.

THE NPD PROGRAM IS AN EPA PROGRAM.

IT'S NATIONAL.

AND FLORIDA HAS ITS OWN PROGRAM.

AND WE HAVE A MUNICIPAL STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT HAS TO BE PERMITTED THROUGH THE PDS PROGRAM.

AND THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT THE, THAT THE EPA AND THE FDP SET OUT.

AND A BIG COMPONENT IS EDUCATION, PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.

AND SO GOING TO HIGHWAYS OR COMMUNITY GROUPS OR YOUR STREET, YOU KNOW, COULD BE PART OF THAT. AND WE CAN SORT OF, UH, MAYBE HAVE MAYBE A QUARTERLY MEETING, UM, OR, OR MEETING WHERE WE CAN DO A PRESENTATION JUST FOR HOMEOWNERS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE SMALL THINGS YOU CAN DO ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY THAT HAVE BIG IMPACT.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH, YOU KNOW, BEING COMPLIANT WITH OUR PERMIT AND CREATING, CREATING A BETTER COMMUNITY.

SO NOT JUST EDUCATION THOUGH.

LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE I WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING ON MY PROPERTY, OH, WOULD I BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM OH, THESE ORDINANCES.

SORRY, WE OFF THIS.

OKAY. I, I'M A FORMER EDUCATOR AND APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION APPROACH, BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD PAN OUT.

UM, SO WHEN YOU SAY BUILD SOMETHING ON YOUR PROPERTY, IS IT A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY OR IS IT YOU'RE BUILDING AN ACCESSORY ON YOUR, LET'S SAY, AN ACCESSORY? I'LL USE A PERSONAL EXAMPLE, BUT NOT FIT THE NORM.

YOU KNOW, ME AND MY WIFE HAVE HAVE FIVE YEAR PLANS TO BUILD A LITTLE TINY HOUSE ON OUR ON OUR PROPERTY AND OUR BACKYARD.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

SO WOULD WE BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM THE GUIDANCE IN THE PLAN? YEAH, INCENTIVES IN THE PLAN.

I WANT TO SAY YES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE AN ANSWER TONIGHT IF YOU NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME AND RESEARCH.

THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. I CAN I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY.

AND RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF OUR VOLUNTARY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

SO THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING MECHANISMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MOVE THIS PROGRAM FORWARD WAS THE ORDINANCE AND COUNCIL DID ADOPT IT FIRST AND SECOND READING.

SO WE'RE NOW AT THE PHASE WHERE WE'RE SOLICITING INFORMATION AND FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE THE MANUAL.

AND THE MANUAL KIND OF SETS FORTH BEST PRACTICES AND STANDARDS THAT ARE USED AND ADOPTED BY FTTP AND OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED IT.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S TARGETED.

MOST OF THE INDUCEMENTS THAT YOU'VE SEEN ARE TARGETED TO THE BIGGER COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NECESSARILY DOWN THE ROAD WE WON'T BE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT WE COULD DO FOR SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, SMALLER, YOU KNOW, TINY HOME TYPE OF BUILDS, INFILL DEVELOPMENT FOR, LET'S SAY, A SINGLE FAMILY LOT THAT'S UNDEVELOPED AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND BUILD THEIR OWN HOME.

SO THIS IS A THIS IS OUR FIRST RUN, IF YOU WILL, AT THE MANUAL.

THE MANUAL WILL EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO COUNCIL, AND IT WILL BE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION.

AND THAT IS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT, JUST LIKE OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.

ANY TIME WE WANT TO UPDATE IT, LET'S SAY THERE ARE NEW BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED OR OTHER SORTS OF TECHNIQUES THAT HAVE COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE.

WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND AMEND THE MANUAL TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THOSE THINGS, SUCH AS, LET'S SAY, A SINGLE FAMILY.

A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO DO SOMETHING.

SO IT'S SOMETHING, I GUESS I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY ANY INPUT THAT YOU SEE THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TO INCLUDE INTO THE MANUAL.

THAT'S INFORMATION THAT WILL BE HELPFUL AS WE START TO REALLY FINALIZE THIS DRAFT AND MOVE IT FORWARD AND EVEN IN THE FUTURE.

LOOK, I AM I KNOW I SPEAK FOR SO MANY PEOPLE WHEN I SAY WE ARE STOKED WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

MEANS A LOT. THANK YOU.

NOW I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO'D LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND INPUT AS WELL.

FIRST WE HAVE MR. BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'VE GOT FOUR ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE, PLEASE.

FIRST ONE, THE CONCEPT OF LEED BEAUTIFUL CONCEPT.

I LOVE IT 100%.

IN FACT, IF THOSE OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO MY PROPERTY, 90% OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IN THE LEAD, YOU CAN LOOK AT AND SEE ON MY PROPERTY ON THE PATENT BILL RANCH, 100% IN USE.

THAT BEING SAID, REMEMBER.

CITY ORDINANCE, INCENTIVIZE COMPLIANCE INSTEAD OF A VOLUNTEER.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN INCENTIVE INSTEAD OF A VOLUNTEER.

WHEN YOU START INCENTIVIZING, INCENTIVIZING SOMETHING, THAT MEANS PEOPLE START PUSHING IT.

THAT MEANS A LITTLE BIT OF A FORCE.

REMEMBER, FOR EVERY ACTION, THERE'S ALSO A REACTION.

AND WHAT THAT BRINGS TO ME FROM THAT REACTION, I COME UP WITH PARAGRAPH FOUR OF THE ACTUAL CITY ORDINANCE, AND THIS IS WHY IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF HATE AND DISCONTENT WITH ME. THE DEVELOPER SHALL ADHERE TO THE LEAD DESIGN AND STANDARDS AS CONTAINED IN THE CITY'S LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL AND BE ENTITLED TO DENSITY, INTENSE INTENSITY BONUS, MORE FLOOR SPACE, GREATER HEIGHT, A REDUCTION IN FEES, NO MONEY COMING IN, CREDITS GRANTING OF OTHER INCENTIVES AT IS.

AND NOW HERE'S THE BIG ONE OTHER INCENTIVES AS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

SO THEY COULD SAY, WELL, YEAH, YOU MADE A BIGGER RETENTION POND.

YOU PUT DRAINAGE IN THE BOTTOM OF IT.

WELL, YOU CAN YOU CAN TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR PROPERTY.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST, BY THE WAY THAT IT'S WORDED IN THE ORDINANCE.

YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF IT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE LEAD THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LEAD WITHIN THE CITY.

IT REQUIRES THE CITY ENGINEER REQUIRES A CITY PLANNERS REQUIRE A STAFF REVIEW HAS TO COINCIDE WITH THE ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT AND MANY OTHERS.

SO ALL OF THAT ADDS TO THE TAXATION OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES TO ACCOMPLISH AN OBJECTIVE.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE IT ONE MORE TIME WHERE THERE'S AN ACTION.

IT REQUIRES MORE ACTION ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PART.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

WELL, SINCE IT'S VOLUNTARY, WE SAID THEY MAKE THEY'RE SIGNING A CONTRACT.

WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GRANTED THEM THE ADDED HEIGHT, WE GRANTED THEM THE HIGHER DENSITY, WE GRANTED THEM A BIG PARKING LOT, BUT THEY FAILED TO

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WHAT HAPPENS THEN? WE'VE ALREADY ALLOWED SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WAS BAD TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO GOOD.

IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT HAPPENS THEN? NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A CASE OF WHAT CAME FIRST THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG.

THIS IS THE PROCESS TO GET US GOING.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW A GOOD PROCESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BATTEN. SAYS RICHARD BLACKFORD.

GOOD EVENING. I'M RICHARD BLATCHFORD FOR 86 NOGALES AVENUE, NORTHEAST BOMBAY.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

BEST PRACTICES.

I SURE WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN A CITY WITH BEST PRACTICES INSTEAD OF.

NO PRACTICES OR CHEAPEST PRACTICE.

BUT AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THIS GOES IN BECOME APPLIES TO INFILL LOTS AND EXISTING HOMES AND DEVELOPMENT ON THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.

YOU TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE A TINY HOME ON YOUR PROPERTY AND RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A AUXILIARY HOUSING UNIT AND A GARAGE.

AND ACCORDING TO THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO IN THE CITY TODAY.

THOSE TWO BUILDINGS CAN'T BE COMBINED FOR SOME REASON, WHICH WOULD BE THE MOST SUSTAINABLE WAY OF DOING IT.

THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ROOF, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF WALLS BUILT AND COST.

BUT THEY SAID THAT, WELL, WE THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN EACH OF THOSE.

I COULD PUT THE AUXILIARY HOUSING UNIT ATTACHED TO MY MAIN HOUSE, BUT I CAN'T PUT IT ATTACHED TO A GARAGE BECAUSE THAT'S AN AUXILIARY BUILDING.

I COULD PUT THE GARAGE ATTACHED TO MY MAIN HOUSE, BUT I CAN'T PUT IT NEXT TO THE AUXILIARY BUILDING.

AN AUXILIARY DWELLING UNIT, A COMMON WALL WITH A FIREWALL BETWEEN THEM WOULD CONSIDERABLY REDUCE.

THE COST OF BOTH OF THEM, WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ROOF THAT'S ON THE ON THE PROPERTY.

I HAVE THE PROPERTY TO BUILD THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT JUST THIS ARBITRARY DECISION OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS CAN'T BE JOINED FOR SOME REASON IS A LITTLE BIT ODD AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FALL INTO THE SUSTAINABILITY PART THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INFILL PROPERTIES INSTEAD OF BEING THESE LARGE PYRAMIDS THAT THEY'RE NOW BUILDING HOUSES ON, WHERE THE FOUNDATION OF ONE HOUSE IS EQUAL TO THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE BEDROOM WINDOW OF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR, 12 FEET AWAY.

IT SHOULD BE KEPT MORE IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE HOUSES.

AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF SWALES SWALES ARE A GREAT WAY OF CAPTURING THAT RUNOFF IS RIGHT NOW THOSE HOUSES ARE JUST A SKI SLOPE DOWN TO THE ROAD FOR ALL THE RUNOFF ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND IF IT'S A 7 TO 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOT WITH 3000 SQUARE FEET OF ROOF ON IT, PLUS THE DRIVEWAY, THAT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER JUST RUNNING RIGHT DOWN TO THE STREET. SO IF THOSE WERE LOWERED A LITTLE BIT, SOME SWALES PUT IN, I LOVE THE IDEA OF SWALES IN THE MEDIANS AS WELL.

THAT'S WHY I WONDERED WHY THAT ISN'T DONE HERE.

IT'S DONE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY.

WE'VE NEVER DONE IT HERE ANYWAY.

I LOVE THE IDEA.

I'M GLAD WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND I APPLAUD THE WHOLE THING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT IS MS.. JAMIE SNYDER.

GOOD EVENING. JAMIE SNYDER, 682 FIRESTONE STREET NORTHEAST.

I'M BORN AND RAISED IN PALM BAY.

SO THERE'S LIKE FIVE OF US, I THINK, IN THE WHOLE CITY.

SO WE'RE TWO RIGHT HERE.

2/5. MY COMMENT IS.

ON BOTH OF THE PRESENTATIONS BECAUSE THEY BOTH GO TOGETHER AND.

DOING THINGS FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, INCLUDING KEEPING THE RAIN BASICALLY IN OUR YARDS AND NOT RUNNING TO THE RIVER.

IT'S ALL DONE WITH NATIVE PLANTS.

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I KNOW THIS IS A BIG THING AROUND HERE.

IT'S VERY PATRIOTIC.

UM. THE THE PLANTS THAT ARE FROM HERE, THEY NEED TO BE HERE AND THE BIG, VAST LAWNS.

I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE ENGLAND BECAUSE WE HAD A BIG WAR ABOUT THAT AND THEY HAVE THE BIG, VAST LAWNS OVER THERE IN FRONT OF THEIR BIG, HUGE MANSIONS.

AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT.

I THINK WE WANT BEAUTIFUL AMERICAN PLANTS KEEPING OUR WATER CLEAN AND GIVEN US THE PRETTY LITTLE BIRDS.

THANK YOU. MY VOICE IS GOING CRAZY.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO COMMENT BACK ON THAT? WE WANT TO ACTUALLY.

HOW DOES HOW DO THE PROCEDURES WORK FOR THIS? I NEVER REMEMBER. TYPICALLY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AFTER ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, THEN STAFF HAS A CHANCE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.

AND OF COURSE, THE BOARD IS WELCOME TO SPEAK.

BUT THERE'S NO BACK AND FORTH.

SORRY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? RIGHT. AND THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT TO STAFF.

WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS FROM WHAT WAS MENTIONED OR SAID TO ME? FOR MR. BILL BENTON'S COMMENTS, SO WITH THE STAFF CAPACITY, YES, THERE'S ALWAYS YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY CAUSE THERE'S AN ACTION, THERE'S A REACTION.

WE WERE ALREADY WE HAVE STAFF THAT'S ALREADY LOOKING AT SITE PLANS.

IT'S ALREADY LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT ANYHOW, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS AND THINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO I DON'T IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO BE TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON OUR EXISTING STAFF.

BUT OF COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS A NEED TO STAFF UP.

WE HAVE SEVERAL VACANT POSITIONS.

IF YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT'S AN ENGINEER THAT WANTS TO COME WORK FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WE'RE HIRING.

THE OTHER QUESTION THAT YOU HAD ON THE MAINTENANCE, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I KNOW THAT TYPICALLY OUR AGREEMENTS AND CONTRACTS DO HAVE SOME SORT OF CLAWBACK PROVISION, BUT IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS INDUCEMENTS, AND THOSE INDUCEMENTS ARE THINGS THAT ARE WORKED INTO THE DESIGN BUILD.

AND SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A REDUCED PARKING OR INCREASED DENSITY AND THOSE HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED AND THEY ARE NO LONGER KEEPING UP WITH THEIR MAINTENANCE, I WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE ON THE ON THE PROPERTY OWNER.

TO ADDRESS, MR. BLACK IS A BLACKBIRD.

YOUR QUESTION ON THE GARAGE AND ADU? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S IT'S NEVER NECESSARILY ARBITRARY.

I'M SURE THERE IS. THERE WAS A REASON AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHEN THAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE CODE.

BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS QUITE OLD.

WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A COMP PLAN UPDATE PROCESS.

TOMORROW IS A PUBLIC WORKSHOP HERE IN THIS ROOM AT 6 P.M.

WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN COME AND GIVE INPUT ON THE COMP PLAN.

PART OF THE COMP PLAN.

PART OF THE PLAN UPDATE INCLUDES A LOOK AT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THAT WILL FOLLOW RIGHT AFTER THE COMP PLAN IS THE COMP PLAN IS UPDATED.

OUR CONSULTANT WILL THEN START LOOKING AT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IF WE DO FIND A DISCREPANCY IN OUR CODE OR SOMETHING THAT NO LONGER WORKS, THAT WE CAN'T TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THAT YOU TALK TO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO TO FIND OUT.

HOPING.

WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO TALK AFTER BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FORTH.

UM. BUT.

BUT WE CAN FOLLOW UP.

IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A MEETING. THAT'S GREAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHO YOU'RE MEETING WITH, BUT WE CAN TALK AFTER WITH THE ELEVATION.

THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING FOR, WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF ELEVATION CALCULATIONS AND CHALLENGES WITH TYPICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE HOMES THAT ARE ON SEPTIC.

AND SO THERE ARE CERTAIN ELEVATION CALCULATIONS THAT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH USES VERSUS WHAT THE CITY USES.

AND SO ONCE THEY GET THROUGH THAT, I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S SOME RESOLUTION, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP SEVERAL TIMES UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

AND DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY, UM, COMMENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE?

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NATALIE STARTED HER PRESENTATION THAT THE ORDINANCE AND ORDINANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED, AND I REALIZE THAT'S A LIVING CHANGING DOCUMENT TOO. BUT REALLY, THIS IS A WAY THAT THE CITIZENS CAN CONTINUE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THEIR FEEDBACK.

BUT IT'S REALLY THE ORDINANCE THAT IS THE HEART OF OF THIS OF THE PLAN AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL COME OUT OF IT.

AM I. SOMEWHAT ACCURATE.

YEAH, YOU'RE. THERE ARE TWO DOCUMENTS, SO THE ORDINANCE JUST PUTS IT INTO THE CODE THAT ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CREATING A PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL.

AND THE ORDINANCE DOES HAVE IT IS IT CAN BE READ VERY VAGUE.

AND THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT.

SO IT TALKS ABOUT THE VARIOUS FLEXIBILITIES THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE TO A DEVELOPER IF THEY DO X, Y, Z, AND IT POINTS BACK TO IT HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE MANUAL. AND SO IT'S NOT SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO GET ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN.

IT'S SAYING THAT COUNCIL HAS THE DISCRETION TO AUTHORIZE WHATEVER WAIVERS, FLEXIBILITIES AND OTHER INDUCEMENTS AS THEY SEE FIT.

AND THE REASON WHY WE LEFT IT VAGUE, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IS BECAUSE EVERY PROPERTY IS DIFFERENT.

THE SIZE OF EVERY PROPERTY IS DIFFERENT, THE TOPOGRAPHY IS DIFFERENT.

SO WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPER TO SAY YOUR SITE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LARGE WETLAND, YOUR SITE IS SMALLER.

SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF PRACTICES AND JUST ALLOWS THAT FLEXIBILITY.

ULTIMATELY, THAT ALL HAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING COUNCIL HAS THE DISCRETION TO AWARD X, Y, Z.

AND SO A LOT OF THAT IS WRITTEN INTO WILL BE WRITTEN INTO AN AGREEMENT.

BUT TO BUILD THAT POINT, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T PERFORM OR MAINTAIN, RATHER.

NATALIE, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? AT LEAST LABOR PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN ON MR. BATONS COMMENT ABOUT THE OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE BEFORE OUR ORDINANCE WAS WAS ADOPTED.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO US, DEVELOPERS COME TO US WANTING TO DO PERVIOUS CONCRETE.

IT JUST STARTED HAPPENING A LOT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PREVIOUS CONCRETE SALE, BUT IT STARTED HAPPENING AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH PERVIOUS CONCRETE COMING FROM A RESEARCH BACKGROUND, AND THEN I DID PRIVATE AND THEN I DID REGULATORY.

IS THAT PREVIOUS CONCRETE FAILS? SO, SO IMMEDIATELY I, I MADE IT A CONDITION OF, OF THEIR ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR APPROVAL TO HAVE THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE DOCUMENT DRAFTED AND EXECUTED.

AND IT WAS EXECUTED BOTH BY OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND BY THE DEVELOPER.

UM, AND IT'S RECORDED.

SO AS FAR AS BINDING, THAT'S AS BINDING AS YOU CAN GET WITHOUT I DON'T KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE COULD POSSIBLY DO, BUT I THINK THAT'S AS FAR AS OUR OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE DOCUMENTS CAN GO, THEY ARE LEGALLY BINDING AND, UM.

THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT I.

I. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO, BUT.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE THAT IT SAYS IN THE MANUAL IN SECTION ONE, MAYBE IT'S SECTION TWO.

UM, PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED SO DEVELOPERS CAN COME TO US, SHOW US THEIR PROPERTY, SHOW US THEIR PROPOSALS.

AND BEFORE THEY GET STARTED ON THE LONG DESIGN ROAD, WE CAN TELL THEM HOW WELL WE, WE THINK THEIR PROPOSAL IS SUITED TO THAT PROPERTY AND UM, AND HOPEFULLY GET AHEAD OF, OF THEM, YOU KNOW, GOING WILLY NILLY.

AND, AND AS MR. PATTON SAID, YOU KNOW, JUST PUTTING A POND WITH A, A, A PIPE IN THE BOTTOM THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE EFFECTIVE.

SO IT'S IT'S UP TO US STAFF TO BE EDUCATED AND TO EDUCATE AND ASSIST IN THAT PRE APPLICATION PROCESS.

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I'D LIKE TO STILL CONTINUE THE COMMENT ON THE ORDINANCES BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

LIKE YOU SAID, NATALIE, THESE ARE LEGALLY BINDING.

THESE ARE. SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR WORDS AND YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ARE CLEAR AND EASILY APPLICABLE.

AND THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL IS HAVING THEIR SECOND ANNUAL LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW YOU WENT TO LAST YEAR'S I'M GOING TO PRESUME YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE FRONT ROW THIS YEAR AND.

WE WERE. TOLD THAT DR.

SOTO, LISA SOTO SPOKE TO US AS WELL.

AND WE WERE TOLD THAT SUZANNE SHERMAN, WHO IS OUR CITY MANAGER, WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THE PRESENTERS OR TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE EXCITING THINGS. REALLY.

SOME OF THIS WORK IS AN OUTGROWTH FROM LAST YEAR'S MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL'S FIRST LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

YOU'RE JUST AHEAD OF THE CURVE BECAUSE THIS YEAR THE IT'S FOCUSING ON THESE VERY THING ORDINANCES AND SETTING THE FOUNDATION FOR THE MANUAL TO BE WRITTEN.

AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS ABOUT THESE ORDINANCES BUT AT THE AND THIS.

LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

THE SECOND ANNUAL LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS OCTOBER 20TH AND 21ST.

I'M ALREADY SIGNED UP.

CITIZENS CAN ATTEND.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR MUNICIPALITIES AND AND ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY'RE HAVING DR.

EBEN BEEN RETURNED.

HE WAS THERE LAST YEAR.

THIS YEAR HE'S GOING TO BE TALKING ON A UNIVERSAL SYSTEM HE HAS DEVELOPED THAT IS EASY.

IT INCORPORATES CITIZEN INPUT AS WELL.

THAT APPLIES A UNIVERSAL WAY THAT ORDINANCES IN ALL MUNICIPALITIES CAN BE LOOKED AT AND ASSESSED AND BARRIERS REMOVED TO WHERE THE ORDINANCES ARE MORE IN.

EVERYBODY'S EVERYBODY HAS ORDINANCES, SO IT MAKE THEM MORE UNIVERSAL AND MAKE THEM MORE INTERCONNECTED AND SUPPORTIVE OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING.

AND I'M SURE IT SOUNDS LIKE PALM BAY HAS ALREADY STARTED BECAUSE OF YOU.

YES. YES, YES.

SO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL. COMING.

SMITH. I THINK YOU HAD SOME.

THE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT PATRIOTIC ENVIRONMENTALISM AS A AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATOR OF OVER 20 YEARS AND A COMBAT VETERAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE I NEVER THOUGHT TO USE THAT. SO I'M GOING TO REMEMBER THAT.

THANK YOU. PATRIOTIC PLANTS.

WHO KNEW? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR PRESENTERS AND TO THE ENGAGEMENT FROM ALL OF YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE ADOPTION OF OUR MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING ON JULY 27TH.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. I.

I. AND YOU BOTH.

ALL RIGHT. MINUTES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED, AND SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS AND I'LL BE GOING FIRST.

[OTHER BUSINESS:]

SUSTAINABILITY FAIR TASK FORCE, WHICH IS STILL THE COOLEST NAME I'VE EVER BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH, MET YESTERDAY AND I HAVE UPDATES TO PROVIDE EVERYONE AND I DO NEED SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS, SO BE READY TO TAKE NOTES.

SO LONG STORY SHORT, CITY STAFF WAS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH KRISTEN AND THEN A GENTLEMAN NAMED DANIEL.

I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SAY HIS LAST NAME INCORRECTLY, WAITE AND BROOKLYN DAWSON.

AND ONE WAS FROM PUBLIC WORKS OUTREACH, I THINK.

AND THEN. CALL THESE OUTREACH PHOTOS.

AND THEN WHERE IS DANIEL FROM? DANIEL'S OUR SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR WITH THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

SHOULD IT? SHOULD. IT TOOK NOTES OF THEIR JOB TITLES, TOO, AND THEY WERE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.

WE. I WENT IN WANTING TO IDENTIFY A FEW PARTICULARS THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US.

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AND SO I PICKED, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, A BIT ARBITRARILY.

AND SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO HEAR IF ANYBODY HAS ANY INPUT.

APRIL 15.

UM. WHICH IS ACTUALLY I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT DATE ALREADY.

TURNS OUT SOMEBODY'S BIRTHDAY.

BUT JUST LOOKING, I THINK MY THOUGHT BEHIND.

THAT DATE WAS SIMPLY NOT TO PICK.

EARTH DAY. BECAUSE WE'D BE COMPETING WITH SO MANY OTHER EVENTS IN THE AREA.

SO I WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS.

I THOUGHT A SATURDAY IN THAT MONTH WOULD WORK.

THE WEEKEND BEFORE IS EASTER WEEKEND.

THE WEEKEND AFTER.

I THINK EARTH DAY IS ON THE 29TH THAT CORRECTORS OF THE 22ND.

IT IS THE 22ND.

OKAY. SO I THINK IF YOU KEEP IN MIND THOSE EVENTS, I WAS THINKING THE MOST APPLICABLE WOULD BE EITHER THE 15TH OR THE 29TH AND I'D BE OPEN TO EITHER ONE.

SO I WANT THE BOARD'S THOUGHTS.

UM. YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER ALL THE UPDATES AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK THROUGH EACH ONE BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT AFFECT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.

UM, SO YEAH, I'LL JUST HIT UP SOME OF THE OTHER HIGH LEVEL THINGS.

THE, THE NEXT THING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO PLAN SO.

BROOKLYN AND DANIEL.

UH, I SHOULD SAY MR. AUSTIN AND MR.. WAIT.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY THE ONES WHO PUT ON THE LORAX EVENT WHERE THEY WATCH THE MOVIE IN THE PARK.

AND THEY ARE VERY EXCITED TO BUILD UPON THAT EVENT.

AND SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE WERE STEPPING ON ANYBODY'S TOES.

AND THEY ARE INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO USE THAT AS KIND OF LIKE A LAUNCHING POINT OR A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.

WITH THAT IN MIND AND WITH KIND OF THE CULTURE OF OUR CITY AND KNOWING WHERE A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE WANTING TO GO, WE WERE ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT HAVING A MORE LIKE LATE AFTERNOON EVENT THAT BEGINS SOMEWHERE IN THE 5:00 TIME FRAME, AND THAT WAY IT GETS DARK KIND OF SOONER INTO THE AIR, AND THAT WAY IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR A MOVIE.

AND WE HAD SOME OTHER FUN EVENTS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE DURING THE TIME.

SO FIVE TO AROUND NINE HERE LOCATED AT CITY HALL, WE DO HAVE A BACKUP LOCATION.

I'LL GO OVER IN A MOMENT AND SOME OF THE MAIN ATTRACTIONS TO THE EVENT.

THESE ARE THINGS TO GET PEOPLE IN AND THAT THE CITY STAFF BELIEVED WERE LOW HANGING FRUITS.

THESE ARE ALL VERY MUCH ON THE TABLE, THINGS LIKE A CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT WHERE THE PRIZE WOULD BE BOTH DESIRABLE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, THINGS LIKE REALLY WELL DECORATED RAIN BARRELS AND SUCH.

UM, A FASHION SHOW WHERE THE PARTICIPANTS HAVE TO UTILIZE THRIFT, CLOTHING AND THEN PARTICIPATION FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY EXCITING JUST BECAUSE PARENTS ARE BECOMING KIDS, BECOMING.

AND SO WEST SIDE HAS A STEEL DRUM BAND THAT CITY STAFF THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

OF COURSE, WE LOOK AT OTHER THINGS, THEN THE EVENING MOVIE.

THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE SOME FOOD TRUCKS IN THE AREA THAT WOULD BE VERY UN BRAND FOR AN EVENT LIKE THIS.

VENDORS LIKE THINGS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

ALSO, POTENTIALLY A SILENT AUCTION IF WE HAD A PLACE THAT WE'D WANT ANY MONIES RAISED TO GO.

AND THEN WE DID MENTION THAT WE WANTED THIS SPACE KIND OF OPENED WHERE EARLIER IN THE EVENT WE COULD DO TALKS AND EDUCATIONAL THINGS WHERE WE COULD HAVE THE AMAZING.

NATIVE FLORIDA PLANT SOCIETY.

YEAH. GO RIGHT.

AND NOT ONLY GIVE A TALK, BUT ACTUALLY BRING DEMONSTRATIONS.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED AS DRAWS TO THE EVENT.

AND WE WERE THINKING ON APRIL 15 AT AROUND FIVE.

SO IN LOCATED HERE AT CITY HALL.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO PUT OUT FOR DISCUSSION, GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

THAT WAY I CAN TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK BACK TO THE NEXT COURSE MEETING AND ADJUST AS NECESSARY.

SO. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST.

WE COULD DO WHAT CHAIR PERSON BYRD DOES AND JUST KIND OF START ON ONE END.

KEVIN ARE YOU FEELING READY TO GO? OKAY, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING.

ACTUALLY, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE YOU MENTIONED THE FASHION.

SO I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TALKING WITH AND WORKING WITH RYAN FROM KB AND HOPEFULLY PUTTING TOGETHER A RECYCLED.

FASHION SHOW. SO A FASHION SHOW FROM RECYCLED CLOTHING, WHETHER IT BE PLASTICS OR WHATEVER.

SO THAT WAS THE FIRST THOUGHT.

AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY.

UM. MISS ZIEGLER.

I'VE SEEN THEM.

THE. REGARDING THE FASHION I'VE SEEN AT CP EVENTS, PEOPLE WEARING, UM, CLOTHING DECORATED WITH THINGS THEY PICKED UP AT THE BEACH.

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I LIKE THE DIRECTION THIS IS TAKING FOR THE, UM, FAIR.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL BE.

MORE APPEALING TO MORE PEOPLE THAN, UM.

PURELY EDUCATIONAL EVENT AND.

YAY! UH, IS CONLEY.

LIKE THE TIME OF IT.

I LIKE THAT IT'S AT CITY HALL.

I LIKE THAT YOUTH IS INVOLVED.

AND. I THINK TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MAYBE FROM THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL AND ALSO FROM THE DATA.

SOME WAY OF VISUALLY OR PICTORIALLY SHOWING ALL THESE IDEAS OF.

YOU KNOW, NATALIE GAVE A LIST OF ABOUT 16 OR 20.

THINGS IN PROCESS AT PALM BAY.

IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE.

THAT EASILY HIGHLIGHTED, GIVE PEOPLE IDEAS.

UM, MAYBE LIKE A BIG GRAPHIC OF BUILDING E.

IT IS DESIGNED SUPER SUBSTANTIAL SUSTAINABLY WITH.

PLAYING. IT'S ALL IN THE PICTURE.

FLOWING WATERFALLS AND RAINBOWS.

IT'S GOING THE OTHER WAY. AND IMAGINING A KID SHOE BOX.

REMEMBER WHEN KIDS MADE THOSE? LIKE THE DIORAMA? THE DIORAMA? AWESOME. ONE PRESENTER TWO WHO SAID THAT SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO TEACH CLASSES OR I COULD SEE HER COMING AND HAVING A GROUP OF KIDS AROUND HER OR WANTS TO GIVE AWAY PLANS.

THERE'S JUST SO MANY FUN THINGS THAT FIT RIGHT IN WITH WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY LAID THE GROUNDWORK.

AND I REALLY LIKE THE TEAM.

WOW SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS MOORE WILL EVEN BE JOINING.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING.

I WOULD MY REQUEST WOULD BE OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO MONTHS, PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE PARTAKE IN THE EVENT.

THAT WAY I CAN PASS IT ON TO OUR OUR AMAZING STAFF TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS.

AND THEY'VE GOT A MILLION CONNECTIONS.

UM, THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS I WANT TO JUST QUICKLY ADD.

WE DON'T KNOW WHEN CONSTRUCTION FOR BUILDING E WILL BEGIN OR WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, OR IF THAT WILL TAKE UP LOTS OF PARKING SPACES.

AND IT'S POTENTIAL THAT DEPENDING ON WHEN BUILDING STARTS, WE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HALL MAY NOT BE THE MOST IDEAL LOCATION.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT BACKUP LOCATIONS.

ONE OF THEM THAT WAS MENTIONED IS I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT ODYSSEY JUNIOR SENIOR HIGH IS A FULLY GREEN BUILDING THAT EVEN HAS ITS OWN GARDEN THAT THEY FEED THE STUDENTS FROM.

AND LIKE IN ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND I MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOME OF THE STAFF THERE ARE VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO STAFF BELIEVES THERE MIGHT BE SOME POTENTIAL THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO EVEN HOST SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I DON'T PERSONALLY THINK IT'S THE MOST IDEAL JUST BECAUSE IT IS A VERY TUCKED AWAY LOCATION WHERE I REALLY LOVE SOMETHING MORE VISIBLE.

BUT IT COULD BE A GREAT BACKUP LOCATION.

SO I MENTIONED IT.

WE'RE THINKING AND ALSO TO ASK YOU TO BE THINKING OF BACKUP LOCATIONS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE THIS EVENT.

UM. SEE AND.

SO WE, UM.

LONG STORY SHORT CONVERSATION WAS GREAT.

I THINK CITY STAFF IS EXCELLENT AS ALWAYS.

UM, AND IT SEEMS THAT WE REALLY CAN HAVE AN EXCELLENT FAIR THAT IS VERY ATTAINABLE.

WE MAY NOT GET EVERYTHING WE WANT THIS YEAR.

RIGHT? WE MAYBE CAN'T HOLD OUR VENDORS TO THIS STANDARD THAT WE'D LIKE TO HOLD THEM TO THIS YEAR.

BUT IF IT'S A SUCCESS AND VENDORS WANT TO COME BACK AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM, WE'RE HOPING TO BUILD UPON THAT WHERE THINGS LIKE MAYBE EVEN PROVIDING INCENTIVES OR LOWER RATES IF THEY BRING BIODEGRADABLE SILVERWARE AND THINGS.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO BUILD OFF OF.

BUT I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE AND I'M SO SORRY I KEEP LOOKING OVER HERE AS IF YOU DON'T EXIST.

AND I'M JUST SO SORRY.

UH, HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD ON A SWIVEL? UM, BUT LONG STORY SHORT, I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN AN EXCELLENT DIRECTION.

SO, UM, I DO WANT TO JUST PAUSE AND SAY ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, OR IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE I TAKE BACK TO THE TASK FORCE FROM OUR OUR ADVISORY BOARD HERE.

ONE ONE LAST COMMENT ON ON THE EVENT THAT DAY.

I KNOW KB HAS.

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AND SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT RECYCLING FOR THIS.

I KNOW IT'S VERY TOUGH. I'M ACTUALLY THE COUNTY RECYCLING COORDINATOR, SO I KNOW EVENTS LIKE THIS ARE VERY.

A TOUGH TO PULL THAT OFF. SO THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO AT LEAST EXPLORE.

ADDING TO THE EVENT.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I BRING THAT BACK TO THE TASK FORCE.

AND KB IS ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WE'RE HOPING TO PARTNER WITH EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS.

AND I THINK THE DATE IS FINE.

THE SEASON WON'T BE SO ADVANCED THAT IT'S SUPER HOT YET.

GREAT. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH HEADS UP? WE COULD PROBABLY GET BIRTHDAY CAKE OUT THERE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS OF INTEREST.

I'LL ACTUALLY START THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME EVENTS THAT WERE SHARED.

WITH, WITH ME, UM, FROM THIS MEETING YESTERDAY ON NOVEMBER 5TH.

THIS IS KIND OF EARLY, BUT PLEASE PUT IT IN THE CALENDAR.

ON NOVEMBER 5TH, IT'S INDIAN RIVER LAGOON DAY AND OVER AT FRONT STREET PARK IN MELBOURNE THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG EVENT.

I BRING IT UP BECAUSE PALM BAY UTILITIES WILL HAVE A TABLE THERE AND THEY INVITED US TO COME OUT AND JOIN THEM AT THEIR TABLE AND INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC. SO THAT WAS A SPECIAL INVITATION I DID WANT TO PUT OUT THERE.

AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, I DIDN'T TAKE ANY NOTES AS FAR AS MUCH OF THE DETAILS, I WAS KIND OF GOING QUICKLY.

BUT THERE IS A WHAT NOT TO FLUSH EVENT, WHICH IS THERE ANYTHING MORE EXCITING THAN TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT FLUSH DOWN YOUR TOILET? I DON'T THINK SO. AND SO SO THAT'S ON SEPTEMBER 2ND AGAIN WITH OUR UTILITIES.

UM, AND THEN, UM, STAFF DID WE, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND COMMENT ON ANY OF THESE UPCOMING EVENTS? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WITH THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON DAY EVENT, WHICH I THINK IS PHENOMENAL, I DIDN'T KNOW IT EXISTED UNTIL TODAY.

IF THE BOARD IS ATTENDING, JUST REMEMBER THAT IF YOU'RE IF THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE TO ME AND SHARED WITH ME WAS THAT THERE WAS A BOOTH.

AND SO IF THE BOARD WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BOOTH, REMEMBER YOU ARE A BOARD AND YOU MUST OPERATE IN THE SUNSHINE.

SO IF THERE IS GOING TO BE REPRESENTATION FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WITH BROOKLYNN DAWSON AT THE AT HER TENT OR HER BOOTH, IF YOU WILL, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ELECT ONE MEMBER TO ATTEND.

PERFECT. I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE.

UH, CAN I DO THAT? UH. WHAT I'M THINKING IS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF OUR ACTION ITEMS SHOULD BE ELECTING SOMEONE TO ATTEND THE NOVEMBER 5TH.

UM. INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

AND WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'D LIKE TO PASS ON REGARDING THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

AUDIENCES, UM, THAT THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GIVING TODAY AND SO I'D LOVE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A MONTH TO DIVE DEEP PERSONALLY INTO THOSE AND THEN COME BACK WITH THOUGHTS.

AND SO I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE ON THE AGENDA, AND I THINK WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO GET THEM THERE.

SOME OF. I THINK YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MOVE.

OKAY, I MOVE THAT WE GET ON THE AGENDA.

THE. MY BRAIN EXPLODED WITH THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IDEA.

SO GETTING IT, GETTING A MEMBER TO GO TO THE URL DAY AND GETTING THE, UH, AGENDA.

THE. SUSTAINABILITY.

A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO BRING BACK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.

TASK FORCE. MORE JUST FOR STAFF CLARIFICATION WE'RE ASKING IS THE IS THE MOTION THEN ELECTING A MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO ATTEND EARL DAY.

SO BRINGING THAT BACK ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND BRINGING BACK THE LEAD INDUCEMENTS, PROPOSED INDUCEMENTS FOR THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT I HEARD FROM YOU.

UH, JERRY SNYDER? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. YES.

WE JUST NEED A SECOND.

THEIR SECOND, SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. I.

RIGHT. AND I THINK IF WE HAVE A MOTION, WE CAN ADJOURN FOR THE EVENING.

IT IS ALMOST MY BEDTIME.

SO. BEFORE WE ADJOURN.

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JUST THE SIGN UP, THE BLITZ, CLEANUP BLITZ TO HIGHLIGHT THEM.

YES. YEAH.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FOR US TO SIGN UP FOR THOSE THINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IS THAT? THAT'S A THAT'S A FRIDAY.

WHICH IS VERY INTERESTING, ISN'T IT? WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION AND BACKGROUND ON THIS, IF I IF I MAY, CHAIR.

UM, OUR CODE CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM HAS ACTUALLY ASKED TO HOST A CLEANUP BLITZ.

BLITZ. SO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH OUR BEAUTIFUL, WE DO AN ANNUAL CLEANUP DAY.

OUR CODE COMPLIANCE SUPERVISOR HAS ASKED, WHY DON'T WE BRING BACK WHAT THE CITY USED TO DO SOME YEARS AGO, WHICH IS GO OUT AND DO THESE REGULAR CLEANUP DAYS? AND SO WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORIZATION SHE HAS SCHEDULED.

HER NAME IS VALERIE.

SHE JUST GOT MARRIED. SO I THINK IT'S VALERIE POSING.

SO SHE AND HER TEAM HAVE IDENTIFIED DATES ON THE CALENDAR.

AND THIS SEPTEMBER 9TH DATE FROM 8 TO 12 IS ONE OF THOSE.

AND THE REASON WHY WE DECIDED WE WOULD HOLD IT ON A FRIDAY IS SO THAT WE COULD UTILIZE CITY STAFF PERSONNEL AS WELL.

SO EACH DEPARTMENT HAD DOES HAVE TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONS, SO THEY HAVE TO ENSURE THAT OPERATIONS CONTINUE.

BUT FOR THOSE STAFF THAT DO WISH TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE, THEY ARE GRANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

AND AND SO WE'RE DOING THAT AT A CITY LEVEL, BUT WE'RE ALSO ALSO ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS.

SO IF YOU GO TO THIS WEBSITE, YOU CAN PUT YOUR INFORMATION IN THERE AND SIGN UP RIGHT THERE ON THE WEBSITE.

YOU CAN GET INFORMATION ON THERE.

AND THIS WILL BE A WEBSITE THAT'S UPDATED REGULARLY.

SO IF WE HAVE ANOTHER CLEANUP BLITZ, LET'S SAY NEXT QUARTER, IT WOULD BE ON THERE.

AND SO IT'LL BE AN ONGOING EFFORT BY THE CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION WITH SUPPORT OF THE CITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND SO EXCITED AGAIN.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH HOW EXCITED I AM, JUST THE DIRECTION OUR CITY IS TAKING.

IT'S A BLESSING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. AND A SECOND.

AND GOOD NIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR. HI.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.