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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022 DASH 24 TO ORDER.[CALL TO ORDER:]
OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY BISHOP MERTEN CLARK OF TRUE FARMVILLE MINISTRIES, AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
AND WE'RE IN THE ATTITUDE OF PRAYER AT THIS MOMENT.
OUR FATHER, WHICH ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME.
THY WILL BE DONE. ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
HE DOES NOT INTO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
WITHIN IS THE KINGDOM, THE POWER AND THE GLORY FOREVER.
AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US KEYS TO THE KINGDOM.
WE BELIEVE SYNERGY IN OUR CITY.
WE THANK YOU FOR HIGH EMPLOYMENT.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE AND FIREMEN.
WE THANK YOU THAT YOU'RE PROTECTING ALSO THE WIDOW, THE ORPHAN AND THE HOMELESS.
WE GIVE YOU PRAISE FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL, AND WE PRAY THAT TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS WOULD GO FORTH.
IN UNITY, WE DECREE AND RELEASE UNITY IN OUR CITY.
NO FACTIONS, NO SEPARATION, WHERE ONE CITY UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE FOR THAT.
THE MATCHLESS NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME, A MAN.
TO ME, WE'RE JUST SAYING ONE DAY THIS IS ALL JUST RAH RAH.
MADAM LOEFFLER MEDINA PRESIDENT.
DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD, REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION AND ONE TERM EXPIRING ON THE MELVIN TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 32195 230 414.AND IF YOU'RE TRACKING THE AGENDA, WE ARE NOW ON AGENDA REVISIONS.
[AGENDA REVISIONS:]
MADAM SHERMAN.THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE ONE ITEM TO ANNOUNCE.
IT NOW HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
MADAM SMITH, ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.
SO WE'RE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]
SO THERE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT REACHED OUT TO OUR OFFICE.GENTLEMAN'S NAME IS RANDY SALMON, AND HE IS A VICTIM OF CHIARI MALFORMATION.
AND I'M GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
HE WAS IN SO MUCH PAIN THAT HE COULDN'T COME TO OUR MEETING TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION.
BUT I FEEL IT WARRANTS ALL OF US TO STAND IN AGREEMENT AND JUST TO RAISE THE AWARENESS OF THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH IN BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
THAT WHEREAS CHIARI MALFORMATION, A SERIOUS NEUROLOGICAL CONDITION FIRST DESCRIBED BY AN AUSTRALIAN PATHOLOGIST, FIRST DISCOVERED BY AUSTRALIAN PATHOLOGIST HANS CHIARI IN THE 1890S, AFFECTS APPROXIMATELY ONE IN 1000 PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
WHEREAS CHIARI MALFORMATION IS A STRUCTURAL DEFECT IN WHICH THE CEREBRUM, THE AREA OF THE BRAIN THAT CONTROLS BALANCE, EXTENDS THROUGH THE OPENING OF THE BASE OF THE SKULL, WHICH CAN CREATE PRESSURE AND BLOCK THE FLOW OF CEREBRAL SPINAL FLUID BETWEEN THE BRAIN AND THE SPINAL CANAL. CRT IS CATEGORIZED AS TYPE ZERO ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.
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AND. WHEREAS, THE EXACT CAUSE OF CHIARI MALFORMATION IS UNKNOWN.WHEREAS SYMPTOMS CAN APPEAR IN ADOLESCENCE OR IN ADULTHOOD AND CAN INCLUDE SEVERE HEAD AND NECK PAIN, VERTICAL MUSCLE WEAKNESS, BALANCE PROBLEMS, BLURRED AND DOUBLE VISION, DIFFICULTY SWALLOWING SPEECH PROBLEMS, COGNITIVE PROBLEMS, SCOLIOSIS PROBLEMS, SLEEP APNEA AND MORE.
AND. WHEREAS, NO CURE EXISTS FOR CHIARI MALFORMATION MALFORMATION, A RISKY BRAIN SURGERY MAY LEAD TO RELIEF OF ONLY SOME OF THOSE SYMPTOMS. RAISING AWARENESS AND CONTINUE RESEARCH IS ESSENTIAL.
NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2022 AS CHIARI MALFORMATION AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT RESEARCH TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE OF CHIARI MALFORMATION AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE ON TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FIRST DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2022.
WE WILL MAKE SURE WE SEND IT TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS IN SEVERE PAIN AND IS DEALING WITH THIS THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE. AND WE.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]
DEPUTY MAYOR WHERE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, MR. BILL BRATTON FOLLOWED BY SUSAN B CONNOLLY.THANKS FOR JOINING. GO BACK IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
IT WAS FOR SALE FOR SALE OF PROPERTY, AND IT USED TO BE IN THE BANNER DROPDOWNS THAT THEY LISTED WHAT PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY FOR SALE FOR THE CITY. AND SO IT WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
SO I COULDN'T FIND THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY FOR SALE THAT THE CITY OWNS.
THEY'RE CALLING IT THE EXCESS PROPERTY.
SO I WAS TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER ORGANIZATION.
SO I CLICKED ON THE LINKS AND IT COMES UP WHERE IT SAYS, CONTACT YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO CONTACT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SO I COULD JUST LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT USED TO BE ON THE CITY'S HOMEPAGE, JUST TRYING TO BE THERE BECAUSE I HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONSIDERING PURCHASING SOME OF THE LOTS JUST SO WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING SOME SUSTAINABILITY AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
UH. HIGHLIGHTS OF THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
MASTER CHIEF SUSAN B CONNOLLY, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT STICE.
I COULD NOT BE PALM BAY PROUDER AT THE LAST MEETING WITH THE ROLLOUT OF OUR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL. OH MY GOSH.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE PROUD IS A WORD, BUT I FEEL IT.
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IDEAS, STARTING WITH THE HEART OF THIS COUNCIL AND THE INTENTION OF THIS COUNCIL.I HAVE A SEQUEL TO THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS CALLED LOW IMPACT LIVING.
I HOPE NATALIE WILL WRITE THAT FOR US.
THERE WERE TWO EXAMPLES OF LOW IMPACT LIVING AT CASTAWAY COVE.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AT CASTAWAY COVE, AND ONE EXAMPLE WAS THAT THIS PAST WEEK A LIVING SHORELINE WAS INSTALLED BY THE BREVARD ZOO.
THE LIVING SHORELINE IS A REEF OF OYSTERS.
MAYOR MEDINA CAME OUT TO OBSERVE AND LEARN AND SEE THAT IN ACTION.
WHAT'S SO WONDERFUL ABOUT IT IS IT WAS AN EFFORT OF VOLUNTEERS AS WELL AS STAFF OF THE ZOO.
THERE IS NO MAINTENANCE BEYOND THE OYSTERS FILTER.
THANK YOU. 50 GALLONS OF WATER, UP TO 50 GALLONS PER DAY.
AND THEY'RE THERE FOR THE REST OF THE LIFE OF ME AND THE OYSTERS.
THE SECOND THING THAT HAPPENED WAS.
UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, TOO, THERE WERE ISSUES OF THE WATER IN THE NORTHEAST.
CASTAWAY COVE IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST PALM BAY.
AND WE THE ISSUE WAS THAT THERE WERE.
THE WATER LOOKED HAD A LOOK AND A SMELL AND THAT IT WAS TESTED.
AND THE CITY SAID IT WAS FINE.
BUT IT WAS VERY IRONIC THAT WITHIN DAYS OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AH WELL WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH OUR WELL AND WE LEARNED THAT OUR WELL WAS TAKING IN AIR.
A NEW WELL. WHAT WE'VE DECIDED IS TO GO TO CITY WATER.
WE'RE BELIEVING THAT THIS WILL PROTECT OUR AQUIFER.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO ASKS THE HARD QUESTION WAS THERE A CONNECTION BETWEEN SALTWATER INTRUSION AND OUR AQUIFERS? WE BELIEVE AT CASTAWAY COVE THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSERVING IF WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR WATER.
AND ALSO IT'S A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, LOW IMPACT LIVING IS NOT JUST OUR DEVELOPERS, IT'S US.
AND I THINK THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE CAN START PAYING THE COST TO SAVE OUR FUTURE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ROBERT STICE, FOLLOWED BY BARBARA JOHNSON.
JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME ITEMS HERE.
SOME OF YOU I'VE HAD A CHAT WITH AND SOME I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO CHAT WITH RIGHT NOW.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT STRIKES ME? FIRST OF ALL, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE MAJORS.
WE'VE BEEN HAMMERING THAT FOR A YEAR.
SO I'M GOING TO SPARE YOU MY DIATRIBE ON THAT ONE.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THE BODY HERE OF CITY PLANNERS.
I'LL CALL YOU FOR THIS MOMENT.
AND BOTH OF YOU, ALL OF YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GET CLOSER TO THE MIC.
ALL OF YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE FINAL PLANNING OF PALM BAY, THE 55% OF OPEN SPACE THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DEVELOP AND THEN WHAT HAVE YOU.
PUTTING ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM 126,000 TO ABOUT 200,000.
WHAT I'M NOT SEEING HERE IN THE COMPANIES THAT I HAVE BEEN WITH.
MR. MAYOR, YOU WERE RIGHT WHEN WE TALKED THE LAST TIME.
YOU SAID IF WE'RE DOING OUR JOBS PROPERLY, WE DON'T NEED A MORATORIUM.
A MORATORIUM. I AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT I BEG YOU TO LOOK AT THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
I'M SEEING PEOPLE FOR THE MORATORIUM AGAINST IT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
YOUR BODY IS REALLY NOT GOING TO REVIEW THAT UNTIL 2023.
I'M GOING TO CALL IT. THE RUBBER STAMPING OF DEVELOPMENT COMES BANG.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE OK AND OFF THEY GO.
IS THERE A SELF ASSESSMENT? I MEAN, WHAT WOULD OUR PARENTS DO? MY DAD WAS PART OF THE GREATEST GENERATION.
IMPACT FEES ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.
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RIGHT. WE KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT FIRE HOUSES AND PLAYSTATIONS TO BUILD.YOU'VE GOT ROADS TO REPAIR AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE? MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IS THERE A SELF ASSESSMENT THAT YOU FOLKS CAN DO AND CAN DO AND SHOULD BE DOING ON A REGULAR BASIS, SAYING, WHERE ARE WE AT ON THIS? SHOULD WE DO X INSTEAD OF Y? HOW DO WE DO THIS? BECAUSE YOUR FOCUS IS EVERYBODY WHO'S SITTING DOWN BEHIND ME, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT PALM BAY? BECAUSE I KNOW DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO BE MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR REELECTIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
PLEASE REMAIN FOCUSED ON PEOPLE OF PALM BAY.
BARBARA JOHNSON, FOLLOWED BY MARISSA SCOTT.
BARBARA JOHNSON 849 YELLOW WOOD COURT MAYOR MEDINA ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE ADVISE ME ON MS.. JOYNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN HER PROPERTY FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.
AND IF SHE DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY PER STANDARDS AND ORDINANCES.
WHO IS THE CONTACT PERSON AND DEPARTMENT THAT WILL HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE? AS A VERY, VERY SHORT REPORT, I'VE GOT SNAKES THAT I'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE, MOSTLY BLACK.
BUT YESTERDAY I FOUND A MOCCASIN IN MY YARD.
AND WHERE THERE'S ONE, THERE'S MORE.
OF COURSE, I'VE HAD RATS ACROSS THE BACK OF MY YARD.
GRANTED, I'M ON A CANAL, BUT I'VE NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE.
AND THE RACCOON POPULATION IS EXPLODING DOWN THERE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING SOME PROBLEMS, DISEASES, PROBABLY ACCIDENTS.
LARISSA SCOTT, FOLLOWED BY CHARLES DODO.
ME AND SEVERAL OF MY FRIENDS THAT OWN FOOD TRAILERS ARE GETTING NOTICES THAT WE NEED TO MOVE IT IN A MATTER OF TIME, FIND SOMEWHERE TO STORE IT AWAY FROM OUR AREA WHERE WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
AND I CAUGHT AROUND JUST A LITTLE BIT AND A LOT OF STORAGE FACILITIES ARE EVEN FULL.
SO IT'S FORCING US TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT LIKE WHERE TO PARK OUR SMALL BUSINESS.
AND LIKE, I HAVE CAMERAS IN MY HOUSE, I COULD KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
I SEE IF IT WAS LIKE JUNK OR IN THE WAY IN A ROAD OR SOMETHING.
BUT I'M JUST WANTING TO SEE IF IT CAN BE LIKE A CASE BY CASE SITUATION, NOT JUST STRAIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE A TRAILER, YOU NEED TO MOVE IT.
IT'S. CHARLES ZERO, FOLLOWED BY TIM BLAND.
REQUEST AND UNDERSTAND WHY THE MORATORIUM WAS STRUCK DOWN BY CERTAIN PEOPLE.
BUT I STILL LEFT ME WITH A QUESTION IS I AM NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT PUTTING A ELECTRICIAN OR A CONTRACTOR OUT OF WORK FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN.
THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THE QUESTION IS THAT EVERYBODY GETS A FAIR SHOT AT BEING HAPPY.
THE CONTRACTOR IS HAPPY BECAUSE HE'S WORKING THE HOMEOWNERS.
HAPPY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WORKING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TAKING UP PROPERTY.
THAT'S A SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF WHAT I THOUGHT, AND I KNOW IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
BUT STILL. YOU CAN'T PUT Ā£5 OF SOMETHING IN A Ā£2 BAG.
MATH IS ON MY SIDE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE.
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SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION.BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT I DON'T HOLD WATER.
RESIDENTS OF THE. SUMMERFIELD.
SUBDIVISION ARE UNDOUBTEDLY DISAPPOINTED.
I MEAN, I LOOK OUTSIDE MY YARD EVERY DAY.
I WAS GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT AND PUT A T SHIRT TOGETHER WITH A PICTURE OF THE THIRD GREEN.
IT AIN'T PRETTY. IT'S DISGUSTING.
IT'S TERRIBLE TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY BEING WASTED.
PERSON COMES FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY, HIRES PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY.
COMES IN HERE, RIPS MY GOLF COURSE APART.
AND I'M SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT 370 HOMES UP IN MY BACKYARD.
IT'S TERRIBLE. THE WILDLIFE IS GOING CRAZY, WHICH HEY, THEY'VE GOT A RIGHT TO.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IT'S HEARTBREAKING.
AND YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE IT AS MUCH AS YOU SHOULD BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT THERE.
I'M PRIVILEGED. I'M BLESSED TO BE THERE.
I WORKED MY ENTIRE LIFE TO GET HERE.
NOW. SOMEBODY CAME IN HERE AND SNATCHED IT RIGHT UP UNDER MY FAT NOSE AND I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.
FOLLOWED BY PASTA KINDERGARTEN.
TIM BLAND 1992 LYNBROOK DRIVE.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO START OFF THANKING YOU FOR YOUR VOTE.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ON THE LADNER ROAD PROJECT, YOU DECLINED THE REZONING OF WELL OVER 100 BY A50 VOTE.
IF I HAVE BEEN ESPOUSING UP HERE MANY, MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO STOP AND SLOW DOWN AND LET THE INFRASTRUCTURE CATCH UP. SO I APPLAUD YOU ALL FOR THAT AND I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO USE YOUR COMMON SENSE ON FUTURE REZONING APPLICATIONS.
NEXT, LIKE CHARLIE JUST SAID, YEAH, I LIVE ON THE FIRST GREEN IN THE MAJORS.
SO MY QUESTION IS, AND I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO GET AN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT GENERAL USE HOLDING.
I KNOW THAT'S THE CURRENT ZONING OF THAT PROPERTY.
SO MY QUESTION IS ON THE GENERAL USE HOLDING.
ARE THERE ANY COVENANTS OR CODES THAT REQUIRE FOLKS THAT OWN PROPERTIES UNDER GENERAL USE HOLDING TO KEEP THEM MAINTAINED? I MEAN, THE COURSE, LIKE EVERYBODY SAYS, JUST LOOKS LIKE HECK.
IT'S JUST A PIECE OF PLYWOOD THAT'S EVENTUALLY GOING TO TURN COLORS AND START DETERIORATING.
SAME THING WITH THE ELECTRIC SIGN THAT WAS FOR THE MAJORS.
IT'S THEY THEY TOOK BOTH PANELS OUT, YOU SEE, RIGHT THROUGH IT.
IT'S NOT THERE. SO I'LL STILL SAY IT'S A GOLF COURSE.
THEY JUST TOOK AWAY THE SIGNS.
THIRDLY. IF THERE IS NO REZONING APPLICATION OR REZONING PROCESS GOING FORWARD, WHAT, IF ANY, ARE THE CODES REQUIRED OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAINTAIN THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON SITE SO THEY'RE NOT DEMOLISHED? I KNOW THE OWNER WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GET A DEMOLITION PERMIT, BUT IT'S STILL A FACE OF THE CITY.
HATE TO SEE THOSE GONE WITH ALL THE OTHER SIGNS WITHOUT A LITTLE BIT OF A FIGHT.
UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU ALL AGREE TO SOME OTHER CONTINGENCY LIKE PURCHASING IT.
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THANK YOU, PASTOR KEN DELGADO.KINDERGARTNER 154 ANGELA ROAD, SOUTHEAST.
I'M SO SORRY I COULDN'T BE HERE.
MY HEART WAS HERE, BUT I COULDN'T.
TALKING ABOUT CODES, HOW ABOUT KEEPING THE GRASS CUT AND EVERYTHING? MAYBE THEY CAN BE FORCED TO KEEP THE GROUNDS ON THE GOLF COURSE.
ANYWAY, I JUST BRING A THOUGHT.
NORMALLY HERE HAS NOTHING TO DO OTHER THAN LIFE AND LIVING.
I THINK WE ALL NEED PART OF THAT.
AND TODAY I'M GOING TO READ FROM MATTHEW 12.
JESUS IS SPEAKING SO FAMOUS PERSON.
I LIKE WHAT HE SAYS AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID.
AND THE SECOND LAW IS THIS LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
AND THERE ARE NO GREATER COMMANDMENTS THAN THESE WE KNOW.
WHAT LAWS DO I MEAN JUST TO FIGURE OUT ALL THE LAWS FOR PALM BAY? THAT'S A LOT OF LAWS TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH, BUT I LIKE IT.
JESUS BROUGHT IT DOWN TO JUST THREE CONCEPTS.
LOVE HIM. LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AND LOVE YOURSELF.
OR HE SAYS, LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
AND THIS IS WHERE JESUS CHRIST, I BELIEVE, COMES IN TO PLAY HERE.
I THINK HE GIVES US A CAPACITY AND IT STARTS OFF WITH KNOWING THAT GOD DOES LOVE EACH AND EVERY PERSON SO MUCH THAT HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE.
AND HAS THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE MILITARY KNOW THERE'S NO GREATER LOVE THAN THIS? AND TO LAY DOWN YOUR LIFE FOR ANOTHER AND YOU TO CERTAINLY HAVE PLACED YOUR LINES OR MAYBE MORE, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THE FACT THAT HE LOVES US AND THAT HE FORGIVES US IS THE FIRST STEP FOR LOVING OURSELVES.
AND I THINK THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE I'VE HAD A PERSON OF OVER 50 YEARS, AND I'VE HAD A YOUNG MAN OF 16, 17 COME UP TO ME AS A PASTOR AND SAY TO ME, IMAGINE, AFTER 50 YEARS OF LIVING, THIS IS THE FIRST DAY I CAN LOOK AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AND SAY, I LIKE WHAT I SEE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE HE LET JESUS CHRIST COME IN AND DEFINE WHO HE WAS AND CORRECT HIS VISION AS HE LOOKED AT HIMSELF 50 PLUS YEARS SAYING, I DON'T LIKE WHAT I SEE.
AND THEN NO WONDER HE CAN'T LOVE HIS NEIGHBOR.
THE SAME WAY HE LOVES HIMSELF BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LOVE.
HE DOESN'T HAVE LOVE. HE IS LOVE.
BUT WHEN I GAVE MY LIFE TO JESUS, LOVE CAME IN.
GOD. LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR, BUT START OFF WITH LOVING YOURSELF AND LETTING GOD TRANSFORM WHO YOU ARE.
HE GOT A FIST BUMP FROM PETER.
YES. UH, GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST THE PARENTS DROPPING OFF THE STUDENTS FOR THE SCHOOL AND PICKING THEM UP.
SO IT'S HAPPENING LIKE TWO TIMES A DAY.
BUT IF WE HAVE TO THE MC, PETE, IF WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE BACKING UP OR WAITING TO DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT THE TRAFFIC IS RIGHT AT EMERSON AND NESBITT ALL THE WAY UP TO PINEDA, ALMOST SIX BLOCKS BACK.
SO THEIR DRIVEWAYS ARE BEING BACKED UP.
AT LEAST I WANT TO SAY 20 TO 40 MINUTES IN THAT TRAFFIC.
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CARS CAN COME BY BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE LANES ARE BEING FILLED UP ALREADY BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC.OKAY, WHO'S GOING TO GIVE IN AND TURN TO THE LEFT OR TURN TO THE RIGHT? SO, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS BEING LOOKED AT AS OF YET.
I WASN'T SURE IF THIS WAS THE PROPER MOMENT TO BRING THIS UP.
BUT I SAW ALL OF THE QUESTIONS AND I SAW THEM.
THEY WERE KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO I SAID, ALL RIGHT, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE PERFECT TIME TO ACTUALLY JUST BRING IT UP, GET IT NOTED, SO THAT WAY SOMEBODY CAN LET US KNOW, HEY, LISTEN, MAYBE THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ASSESSMENT COMING LATER DOWN THE ROAD OR WE'RE WORKING ON IT JUST SO THAT WAY.
THE TENANTS IN LAMAR CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, HEY, SOMETHING IS COMING.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME FUNDS, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
I APPRECIATE YOU COMING, PETER.
THANK YOU. AND I'LL LET THE CITY MANAGER ADDRESS SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.
BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT THAT IS BEEN ON OUR FORESIGHT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
WAS THAT THE LAST SPEAKER? PETER, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU SOME ANSWERS.
AND I'LL LET THE CITY MANAGER JUST BRIEF YOU WITH ALL THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN.
BUT THANK YOU. WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT, PETER.
THANK YOU, GUYS. MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL GO AND ORDER FROM THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE EXCESS PROPERTY? YES, SIR. SO WE HAVE CHANGED OUR APPROACH TO THE AVAILABLE CITY.
THEY ARE TRACKING A HANDFUL OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THERE ARE A LOT OF LOTS OF PREVIOUSLY MAY HAVE BEEN LISTED THAT THE CITY IS HOLDING FOR FUTURE NEEDS FOR CITY PURPOSES.
SO THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT IN OUR APPROACH ON CITY OWNED LOTS.
WANT TO DO THE COLD TRUCK OR THE MAJORS FIRST? ACTUALLY, I THINK I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE MAJORS NEXT.
YES. SO OUR CODE FOLKS HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED LOOKING AT THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE THEY WERE OUT THERE AGAIN LAST FRIDAY.
I KNOW THEY'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, MISS JOHNSON, SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO, I CAN HAVE ONE OF MY STAFF GET WITH YOU AND, AND GET YOUR YOUR CONTACT INFO REGARDING THE FOOD TRUCKS.
SO WE'LL HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
YEAH. GOOD EVENING, FRANK WATANABE, THE CITY ENGINEER.
SINCE THE OPENING OF THE SCHOOL, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE EARLY AUGUST 15TH TO THE 19TH.
THAT HAS CREATED CONGESTION ON THAT ROADWAY.
THERE ARE SCHOOL OPERATIONS FROM 730 TO 830.
THE INITIAL MORNING DROP OFF WAS USUALLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES AT THE LAST GO AROUND.
SO IT'S IMPROVED AND A LOT OF IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS.
SO THE MORNING OPERATION IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER.
OPENING TIME IS ABOUT 230 AND LASTS ABOUT AN HOUR.
THE BEST I'VE SEEN IS MAYBE 45 MINUTES.
THEY DOUBLE THE DOUBLE STACK, BUT THEY ONLY DOUBLE STACK A CERTAIN DISTANCE INSIDE THE CAMP.
THE SCHOOL CAMPUS, THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO DOUBLE STACK ALL THE WAY INTERNALLY, WHICH THEY DON'T.
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SO THAT WAS A PROBLEM THERE. THEY ALSO HAD A ISSUE WITH AN INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDY WAS TO STAGGER THE HOURS THEIR K THROUGH EIGHT.AND SO THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO STAGGER THEIR HOURS EVERY 30 MINUTES.
THAT DOESN'T REALLY CREATE A STAGGERING.
SO WHAT YOU STILL HAVE IS THE SAME VOLUME OF CARS QUEUED UP.
SO LOOKING AT THE SITUATION AND IT'S BEEN OUT THERE NUMEROUS TIMES I'VE BEEN OUT THERE.
BUT WHEN I WAS OUT THERE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY SPEEDING.
I HAD A RADAR GUN. I SAT OUT THERE FROM NUMEROUS TIMES THE TOP SPEED, 35 MILES PER HOUR, TOP SPEED.
AND MAJORITY OF TIMES THE PARENTS ARE QUEUED UP.
THEY'RE IN A PLATOON. THEY'RE AVERAGING BETWEEN 20 TO 25.
AND THEN THEY CIRCLE AROUND THE PARK.
THEY'RE BEING RESPECTFUL. THEY DON'T BLOCK DRIVEWAYS.
I'VE SEEN THEM GO AROUND PARENTS AND STUFF.
IT DOESN'T DOESN'T MEAN IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY BECAUSE I'M NOT OUT THERE ALL DAY.
BUT I CAN SEE THIS BEING AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NEW TO THEM AND THIS IS NOT NEW TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I'M GOING OUT TO TURNER, I'M GOING OUT TO ALL THE SCHOOLS.
AND SO THOSE ARE EVEN MORE CHALLENGING.
BUT THEY'RE BEEN THERE AND THEY'RE ESTABLISHED.
THEY'RE THE NORM. RESIDENTS ARE USED TO IT.
I MEAN, JUST UP THE STREET LOT MORE.
THEY QUEUE UP AND DOWN PEPPER.
AND SO THAT'S AN EXISTING CONDITION AND MOST OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE GOTTEN USED TO IT.
THIS IS NEW AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A WORK BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS, THE SCHOOL AND THE PARENTS.
I HAD A MEETING THIS I'M SORRY THIS MORNING WITH THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL.
SO THE ISSUE REGARDING THE SCHOOL IS SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED.
IT'S A PUBLIC STREET. GO AHEAD.
AND NO, THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED.
P.D. WAS THERE MYSELF, THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL OR STAFF.
THEY WANT TO START LOOKING AT STAGGERING.
THEY WANT TO OPEN UP THEIR CAMPUS EVEN MORE.
THEY HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE OF LUPUS, PART OF THEIR THEIR PLAYGROUND AREA, BUT IT'S FENCED IN.
SO THE EXISTING CURRENT QUEUE HAS ABOUT 44 CARS I COUNTED.
SO IF YOU ADD THAT EXTENSION, MAYBE ANOTHER 40 CARS.
SO MAYBE LET'S SAY 80 TO 90 CARS STILL DOESN'T COVER THE ENTIRE 260 CARS.
THAT MEANS WHEN IT STARTS AT THE SCHOOL, IT ENDS AT BONITA.
BUT WE CAN MAYBE ADD A BIT MORE ONTO THE CAMPUS, MAYBE LOWER IT DOWN.
THEY'RE ALSO ENCOURAGING CARPOOLING.
THEY DO HAVE CARPOOLING WITH THEIR TAGS.
SHE'S GOING TO START ENCOURAGING MORE.
THEY RUN THREE SHUTTLES FOR THE KINDERGARTEN KIDS.
GOOD SUGGESTION WAS MAYBE AFTER THEY DO THE KINDERGARTEN KIDS, THOSE THREE SHOWS THAT THEY'RE STILL FREE, MAYBE PROVIDE SOME SORT OF OFF SITE SHUTTLING MAYBE FROM FRED LEE PARK, SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, TOO, AS WELL, MAYBE MOVE SOME OF THEIR PARENTS TO USE THAT SHUTTLING PROGRAM.
SO MAYBE MORE IMPACTS, BUT THERE'S A STREET THAT HAS NO PRINTING HOMES.
THE MAJORITY OF THEM DON'T FIND IT.
IT'S PEBBLE. IF YOU GO UP HALFWAY UP NELSON PEBBLE GOES NORTH AND SOUTH.
PEBBLE DOESN'T HAVE TOO MANY HOMES FRONTING IT.
THEY HAVE A FEW, BUT NOT AS MUCH THE SAME LONG DISTANCE.
BUT THAT WHOLE AREA IS HOMES ARE ONLY ON ONE SIDE.
THEY SAID THAT THEY LIKE THAT IDEA.
THEY WANT IT TO CHANGE. AND THAT'S A HUGE CHANGE.
YOU HAVE TO CHANGE ALL THE PARENTS, REEDUCATE ALL THE PARENTS RIGHT NOW.
BUT THEY SAID THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES.
SO. SO IT'S A IT'S A WORKING PROCESS.
AND THE PROBLEM LINE IS THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO EDUCATE EVERYBODY'S PUBLIC STREETS.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL AND SO ARE THE PARENTS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MEETINGS AND WE HAVE SOME IDEAS NOW, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON SOME OF THESE IDEAS AND MAYBE IF WE HAVE TO IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE EVEN A SMALL COMMUNITY MEETING AND GET INPUT, BUT THE SCHOOL IS WILLING TO WORK.
SO. MR. WATANABE THE FIRST QUESTION IS HOW SOON? BECAUSE THIS SEEMS LIKE THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE OPPORTUNITY TO DOUBLE STACK IS WHAT I HEARD.
RIGHT? RIGHT. SO HOW SOON CAN THAT BE IMPLEMENTED AND HOW SOON CAN THEY IMPLEMENT THOSE 30 MINUTES STAGGERING THE THE CAPEX EXTENSION ON ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBER WAS THERE.
OKAY. SO HE CAN DO THAT? YES, IMMEDIATELY.
IMMEDIATELY, HE SAYS SO WITH SOME HESITATION, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S SAFETY.
THE PRINCIPAL WAS YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PLAY AREA.
WE CAN DO THAT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY SAID.
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THEY'LL JUMP ON IT IMMEDIATELY.SAME WITH THE STACKING LOOK AT MAYBE THE 30 MINUTE STACKING.
5 MINUTES DOES NOT CREATE A GAP.
BUT SHE SAID THEY'LL LOOK INTO IT AS WELL.
AND SO THESE THINGS THEY WANT TO IMPLEMENT AND THEY'RE LISTENING TONIGHT.
SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO THEN TO GO BACK TO YOUR BOARD AND DISCUSS.
BUT ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WAS THERE AT THE MEETING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THEY COULD DO THE STAGGERING, LIKE PRONTO THOSE 30 MINUTES THAT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE SOME RELIEF, IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT USING THAT THAT NEW ROUTE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR, PEBBLE, I BELIEVE PEBBLE.
AND IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT, WE WOULD HELP THEM OUT AS WELL TO HELP EDUCATE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PARENTS, THEY HAVE A WAY OF THEY ONLY SPEND 2 TO 3 WEEKS, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THEIR OWN PATTERN.
WE WILL PUT UP SIGNS LIKE WE'VE DONE TO ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS.
AND WE DO THAT. WE'VE DONE TO LIKE DISCOVER MCCALLIE.
WE PUT UP SIGNS TO EDUCATE THE PARENTS.
HERE'S THE ROUTE TO USE AND MAKE SURE WE NOTE THAT THEY START AT A CERTAIN TIME.
NO MORE GETTING THERE AN HOUR AHEAD OF TIME.
THEY GET THERE AN HOUR AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT'S GOING TO STOP ENFORCEMENT, SAYS PD SAYS THEY'LL HELP US OUT, TOO.
COME WHEN IT'S TIME TO COME AND START AT THE RIGHT TIME.
I'LL BE THERE TO DOUBLE STACKING IMMEDIATELY.
CORRECT? RIGHT. AND THEN SAYING 30 MINUTES APART.
CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S IMMEDIATE RELIEF.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I WANTED TO ALSO SHARE BEFORE BEFORE I GIVE THE MIC TO COUNCILMAN FELIX JUST WANTED TO SHARE HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOU BEING JOHNNY ON THE SPOT WITH THIS.
AND THAT WAS THIS THIS CAME OUT.
WE DIDN'T EXPECT ALL THESE ALL THESE STUDENTS IN THAT IN THAT SCHOOL.
INITIALLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WAS 200 AND IT EXCEEDED TO 600 NOW.
CORRECT. IF I'M IF I'M CORRECT.
AND I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF WAS OUT THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING OBSERVING AS WELL.
SO I WANTED TO JUST THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, CHIEF, AND YOU AS WELL, FRANK.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC, THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A SOLVABLE ANSWER, BUT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE AT THIS TIME.
BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE GATHERED TOGETHER.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF OF STAGING EVEN AT FRIENDLY PARK IS WHAT I HEARD.
SCHOOL ACTS AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL AS WELL.
THEY'RE QUALIFIED TO GO OUT TO SAFE OUT OF SCHOOL GRANTS.
AND SO THEY WANT TO PARTNER WITH US TO PUT IN SOME SIDEWALKS ON NESBITT AND SOME OF THESE STREETS.
SO THEY SAID THEY'RE BE HAPPY TO BE AN APPLICANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SAFE SCHOOL SIDEWALK.
THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD OPPORTUNITY. ALL RIGHT.
DON'T GO ANYWHERE. I THINK COUNCILMAN FELIX HAS SOMETHING FOR YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF, FRANK.
IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN REQUIRED FROM THE SCHOOL TO DO PRIOR TO BUILDING THEIR FACILITY THERE.
YOU DID MENTION POTENTIALLY ORGANIZE A COMMUNITY MEETING.
THEY ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S LIKE ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE CHALLENGED WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH RIGHT NOW, WITH THE START OF SCHOOL CONGESTIONS ON ALL THE STREETS, A LOT OF TIMES IS OKAY TO HAVE AN A STAKEHOLDER MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND GET DOWN WHAT ARE THE ISSUES? AND IF THE ISSUES TRULY ARE SPEEDY AND UNSAFE, WE CAN CONTROL THOSE.
BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT THOSE ISSUES.
AND IT WORKS OUT IN THE LONG TERM.
IT WORKS OUT LITTLE BY LITTLE, BUT IT IS NEW TO THIS COMMUNITY.
IT IS VERY NEW TO THE COMMUNITY.
CERTAINLY, I USED TO TRAVEL THAT MY KIDS WENT TO COVENANT CHRISTIAN FOR MANY YEARS.
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BUT I CAN SEE WHERE THEY COMING FROM.WHAT I WOULD SAY, CAN WE ENCOURAGE THAT INITIATIVE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? I THINK THAT WOULD BECAUSE WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING THE LAST FEW MEETINGS.
YEAH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THE LEAD AND TALK TO THE SCHOOL.
IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THEY ALREADY HAD DIALOGS RIGHT NOW TO SHARE THEIR PARKING, TO ADD MORE PARKING, AND TO MAYBE MOVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES ONTO THAT SITE, AND THEN TO HAVE THE STUDENTS WALK INTO THEIR CAMPUS SO THEY'RE ALREADY OPEN UP THAT NEW DIALOG WITH THEIR PARTNERS RIGHT NEXT TO IT, THE NEW EXPANSION OF THE COVENANT.
NOT A PROBLEM, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.
FRANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
DID YOU COVER? I KNOW YOU COVERED THE MAJORS, MADAM SHERMAN, BUT THE GENERAL USE, THE HOLDING DEEP IN THAT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT REGARDING THE MAJORS. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING REGARDING THE MAINTENANCE OR I'LL THAT.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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AND ITEM NUMBER ONE, MISS SMITH.AUDIENCE 2022 DASH 88 AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS SUBCHAPTER UTILITIES ADVISORY BOARD ARE REPEALING THE SUBCHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THIS TIME AND DEFER TO MISS SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE FINAL HEARING FOR THIS ONE, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? THE STAFF COUNCIL.
NONE. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WHICH WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOST OF THE PROOF WORN IS 2022 DASH 88 FINAL READING.
WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? OR AS YOU WERE FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SO YOU'RE NOT ALL IN FAVOR.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, PORTSMOUTH ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 89, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AMENDING CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 36 RECREATION DEPARTMENT SUBCHAPTER USE REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS PROHIBITING SMOKING AND VAPING WITHIN MUNICIPAL PARKS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MIRA. AGAIN, THIS ONE IS ALSO FINAL READING.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNSEL.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OH, BATON. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
POLITICIANS. THIS ORDINANCE IS VERY HYPOCRITICAL.
MY GOVERNMENT TELLS ME IT'S BAD, SO THEY WON'T LET ME DO IT.
ONE MORE LOST FREEDOM JUST BY AN ORDINANCE.
ALL THESE GOVERNMENT IDENTITIES ARE TRYING TO REGULATE AND SAY WHAT'S GOOD OR BAD FOR ME, BUT THEY'RE ALL TAKING THE TAX DOLLAR THAT I HAVE TO GIVE IN ORDER TO ENJOY THE FREEDOMS THAT I WANT.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, ALL TOBACCO AND AND VAPING EXCEPT CIGARS.
AREN'T TOBACCO. AREN'T CIGARS.
TOBACCO ALSO STRANGE? ONE MORE TIME.
BUT I FORGOT. POLITICIANS LIKE THEIR CIGARS.
SO DOES THIS MEAN I CAN SMOKE A BIG OL FATTY IN THE BLEACHERS NOW? THIS QUESTION. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, REMEMBER, FREEDOM IS NOT LOST IN ONE SWIFT ACTION.
IT IS LOST BY ONE SMALL ACTION AT A TIME, I.E.
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AN ORDINANCE, A DIRECTIVE, MINOR LAWS OR RESOLUTIONS.I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. IS IT? IS IT. SIT ON THAT.
WELL, I WANTED TO I WANTED TO ASK HER.
IS IT ARE THERE DESIGNATED AREAS? YES. YES, SIR. OKAY.
SO THEY ARE DESIGNATED AREAS FOR SMOKERS.
CORRECT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON ITS 2020.
WAIT A MINUTE. I WASN'T. I WASN'T DONE.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT THERE'S NO SPEAKER CARDS REQUIRED FOR THIS.
SO IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? BEFORE I CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, MA'AM. YOU CAN COME AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
DEPUTY MAYOR. ALL THE CITY COUNCIL.
NOW, I THINK IT DON'T MAKE SENSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BAN SMOKING, BAN SMOKING AND EXCEPT FOR CIGARS.
THAT'S TOBACCO. SO THEY STILL SMOKE.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO BAN SMOKING? BAN SMOKING? AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR YOU TO HAVE JUST CIGARS IN THERE.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BAN SMOKING, I THINK IT SHOULD BE BANNED ENTIRELY.
NOW YOU HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA, THEN HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA FOR SMOKING.
BUT I THINK CIGARS SHOULD BE BANNED ALSO.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO COME SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. DON BITAR, 479 FOUNTAIN STREET, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.
I AGREE WITH THE LADY, AND I LIKE A CIGAR.
I BUY A GOOD CIGAR WHEN I CAN AND CAN AFFORD ONE.
ALL RIGHT. SO I AGREE WITH HER.
EQUAL. I THINK THE CIGARS SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS A BAN.
IF SMOKING IS GOING TO BE BANNED.
AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO COME SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE.
I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THAT, SIR.
PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A STATE STATUTE THAT PREEMPTED THE REGULATION OF SMOKING AT ALL.
IT ONLY ALLOWS DOESN'T ALLOW US TO REGULATE UNFILTERED CIGARS.
SO THE STATE SAID THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY OUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T BAN IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.
THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFICATION ALSO THAT AT A BASEBALL FIELD, THIS IS JUST ASSIGNING SMOKERS TO A DESIGNATED AREA.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE BLEACHERS SMOKING.
IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK COUNSEL FOR A MOTION.
MOST OF THE PROOF WORD. IT'S 2022 DASH 89 FINAL READING.
SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE YOU, BECAUSE THE MAIN THING I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION, WHICH I DID LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON THE FIRST RING FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL.
IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE STATE LEGISLATORS LAST YEAR AND ALSO THIS YEAR.
LAST YEAR DIDN'T GET ANY LEEWAY WAS US AS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WERE PUSHING IT.
LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T GET ANY TRACTION.
THIS YEAR WE GOT TRACTION ONLY BECAUSE THEY PUT IN THE CLAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, NO CIGARS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS BILL GOT PASSED.
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THE FINISH LINE IS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO IS THAT WE CAN'T.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE EDUCATION ON THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE HAND, WE'RE DEALT WITH.
BUT IT'S ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IN PARKS AND TRYING TO PREVENT SECONDHAND SMOKE.
SO I THINK THIS IS A NO BRAINER AND THIS IS A GREAT ORDINANCE FOR OUR CITY AND PROTECTING OUR YOUTH.
SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR SO THEY CAN STILL SMOKE, HOWEVER, THEY JUST CAN'T SMOKE AROUND THE CHILDREN THAT ARE PLAYING THE GAMES AND IN THE IN THE STANDS, IS THAT CORRECT? OK COUNCILMAN FELIX.
DID YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATE AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY, KNOWN AS MAPLEWOOD STREET, LYING SOUTHEASTERLY OF THE SOUTHERLY RIGHT OF WAY POSPISIL AVENUE, AND ADJOINING THE EASTERLY RIGHT OF WAY OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY.
THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
SO THIS IS AN ITEM JUST RELATED TO THE VACATING OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG MAPLEWOOD STREET, WHICH IS PART OF THE OVERALL PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE BAYFRONT AREA. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? CNN. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE SWITCHED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MISS CONNIE MCCLURE.
DID YOU WANT THREE OR FIVE? OKAY, I'LL REWRITE IT.
YOU'RE GOOD. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION BOTH SHOULD APPROVE OR IN ITS 2022 DASH 87 FIRST READING TO INCLUDE STAFF'S CONDITIONS.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
DID I? DID I HEAR? GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
THAT'S 90. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION DX ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MIGUEL RONALDO'S NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT 22.95 SOUTH SHIAWASSEE ROAD, ORLANDO 32835. WE WERE HERE PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD LAST YEAR ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH WHERE WE HAD CHANGED THE ZONING FROM THE INDUSTRIAL TO BE WNMU TO MATCH WITH THE BALANCE OF THE THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING ACROSS THE STREET.
AFTER THAT HEARING, WE WERE APPROACHED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY OF ACQUIRING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE MET WITH STAFF AND WE ATTEMPTED AT FIRST TO TO REZONE THE PROPERTY WNMU, BUT WE WERE OUTSIDE THE CRA BOUNDARIES. THE NEXT STEP WE HAD TRIED FOR WAS OUR MX 20, WHICH WOULD REFLECT WHAT'S TO THE WEST, WHICH IS ALSO PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT STAFF.
AND I HAD SAT AND DISCUSSED AND WE WENT WITH OUR RM 15.
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WE ARE NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL DENSITY.AND WE ARE GETTING TO INCLUDE THIS INTO A LARGE MASTER LAKE THAT WE HAVE ALSO FOR RIGHT AWAY AND TRAFFIC ON INSIDE AND ONTO OUR PROPERTY. WE HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED A PRE SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO STAFF WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN DOING THE FULL ANALYSIS, INCORPORATING THIS PARCEL INTO THE OTHERS AS WELL.
SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE WORKING WITH STAFF CLOSELY TO ENSURE THAT WE DO MEET THE STANDARDS THAT THAT WE THAT THE CITY HAS HAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED LAST TIME.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND ALSO ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE A QUESTION NOT RELATED TO THIS, BUT RELATED TO NORTH SHORE OK.
SURE, AND WONDERING WHEN THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE IS GOING TO BE.
WE JUST GOT BACK THE STAFF COMMENTS FOR FOR THE RETAIL PORTION.
IT WAS DOWN TO FOUR MAJOR PIECES.
THREE OF THE FOUR MAJOR PIECES I HAVE ADDRESSED.
I'M DOWN TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE STATE'S REQUIREMENT FOR ANY TYPE OF FOOD SERVICE THAT WE HAVE A GREASE TRAPS BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE INTO THE CITY SEWER SYSTEM.
SO I'M AT THAT CONUNDRUM OF WHAT DO I DO? AND ACTUALLY, UTILITIES HELPED US FIGURE OUT THAT NO PRE PREPARE TO RECEIVE ONE WHEN IT'S MANDATED.
SO I ANTICIPATE RESUBMITTING BEFORE THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
THANK YOU, SIR. IT'S UNRELATED.
AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN LIKE THIS PIECE IS JUST IN ADDITION TO IT'S KIND OF THE SAME PROJECT.
THIS IS CALL IT PHASE TWO, IF YOU WILL.
THAT'S TRUE. THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU.
SURE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ABSOLUTELY. DEPUTY MAYOR.
YES, SIR. WITH THIS WITH THIS PIECE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR TRAFFIC TO POUR OUT ONTO NORTHVIEW STREET OR DOROTHY? DOROTHY FIELDS? IT WAS GOING TO NORTHVIEW ON THIS PART, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE, IT WAS NORTHFIELD OAK.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO, YOU'RE WELCOME.
THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? THE STAFF. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.
WELL, WE'LL GET TO YOU NEXT, LADIES.
GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH AND WEST.
ONE MORE TIME CHANGING THE AREA THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN THE CITY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SECTOR.
IT HAS BEEN GOBBLED UP ONE SMALL BITE AT A TIME FOR DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN HOUSING TO THE POINT THAT NOW THERE IS NOT ENOUGH LAND TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.
SO WHERE DO YOU WANT THE INDUSTRIAL AREA TO BE? ONE MORE TIME WITH REZONING.
NOW WE'RE HERE FACING ANOTHER PROBLEM.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, I DID INTRODUCE MYSELF LAST TIME.
I FEEL LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH APARTMENTS AND STUFF GOING UP IN OUR AREA AND THE STREETS ARE ALREADY BUSY WITH THE SCHOOL BUSSES AND EVERYTHING AND ALSO YOU PUTTING UP ALL THESE STRUCTURES, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A
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FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE AREA.SO I MUST TELL YOU, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE, YOU I THINK YOU'RE PUTTING THEIR THEIR CARES BEFORE THE HORSE BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON GETTING A FIRE DEPARTMENT IN OUR AREA AND THEN CONSIDER MAYBE THOSE STRUCTURES GOING UP.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH STRUCTURES GOING UP IN OUR AREA ALREADY AND I AM AGAINST IT.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? KENDALL GOT A15 FOR ANGELO ROAD SOUTHEAST.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE LARGEST LANDMASS FOR GROWTH.
AND AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS A GOOD QUESTION.
AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO ELIMINATE ALL THE THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT INCREASES OUR TAXES? UNLESS THERE'S A PLAN THAT WE'RE REZONING IT TO ANOTHER PLACE.
AND IF THAT'S NOT PLACED FORWARD, THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY READJUSTING IT TO THIS AREA AS WE DEVELOPED A LONG TERM PLAN, I THINK IF IF IF THAT KNOWLEDGE WERE THERE AND THEN WE UNDERSTOOD WHY WE CONTINUE TO GOBBLE UP THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THEN THEN PEOPLE WOULD BE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE IT'S GOING.
BUT, BUT IF YOU DID HAVE A PLAN OR IF YOU DO HAVE A PLAN, BUT WE'RE CONSTANTLY REVISING THE PLAN, THEN WHY HAVE A PLAN AT ALL? MIGHT AS WELL JUST ELIMINATE THE PLAN AND JUST COME AND DO WHAT WE FEEL LIKE AT THE MOMENT.
SO SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION THAT PROBABLY COULD COULD ELICIT SOME ANSWERS SO THAT WE SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE UNDERSTANDING AND WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WE CAN GO IN UNITY AND AND WITH CLARITY.
SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH BILL AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO STEP FORWARD, MA'AM? GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THE NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY A DONE DEAL.
I MEAN, THEY'VE INVESTED TOO MUCH.
THEY'VE BUILT TOO MUCH AROUND OUR LITTLE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
BUT WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH STORMWATER DRAINAGE FLOODING.
AND THIS PAST YEAR WE FINALLY GOT SOME RESOLVE.
RIGHT. ON THE OTHER SIDE ARE DOROTHY FIELDS AND OUR LITTLE SIX BLOCK AREA.
AND MY CONCERN IS PUTTING ANOTHER APARTMENT BUILDING IN THERE, EVEN A RETENTION AREA.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FLOODING ISSUE? BECAUSE THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AT THAT TIME WHEN WOOD LAKE COMMERCE WAS DREDGED UP AND A RETENTION PUT IN.
TROY DAVISSON, OUR ENGINEER AT THAT TIME, FINALLY FOUND EIGHT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE WRONG THAT THE CITY DIFFERENT ENGINEERS MISSED.
AND I MEAN, LIKE WATER DON'T RUN UPHILL.
SO, I MEAN, HE FINALLY FOUND THAT MOVED THE PIPE.
WE FOUND THESE PROBLEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING BEING INVESTIGATED PRIOR TO PUTTING IT IN.
ALSO, THE OTHER PROBLEM WE HAD WAS.
OK. WHO PAYS FOR TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT NEED TO BE PUT IN WHEN WE'RE BUILDING ALL THESE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES NOW? I THINK IT'S LIKE TWO OR 300 ON THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO LIPSCOMB STREET.
OK SO WHERE'S ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING TO GO? WE GOT PIRATE, WE GOT WOOD, LAKE, COMMERCE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON LIPSCOMB STREET.
WHO'S GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THE LIGHTS TO GO UP THERE? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS, AS I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, ON PIRATE AND LIPSCOMB.
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SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND THAT'S MY FEELING ON THE ISSUE.ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS? WELL, SURE. FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE WORK WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF ALL THE WAY THROUGH DURING OUR SITE INVESTIGATION PROCESS.
AND SO THAT PROCESS OF GEOLOGICAL SURVEYING HAS ALREADY STARTED.
OUR WETLANDS DETERMINATION SURVEYING HAS ALREADY BEEN COMMENCED.
LET ME SEE. ALSO, THE LADY HAD CONCERNED ABOUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON DOROTHEA.
WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AT THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LADY'S CONCERN REGARDING PIRATE'S LANE AND LIPSCOMB.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR SISTER CITY TO THE WEST OF YOU HAS ALREADY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY TO ALIGN PIRATES LANE WITH COMMERCE PARK BOULEVARD.
BUT THERE IS SUPPOSEDLY THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE IS TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION OF THAT ROAD AND STREET LIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.
HOW IT GOES BETWEEN SISTER CITIES.
I LEAVE THAT TO THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNSEL. THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD, DEPUTY MAYOR, BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WE HEAR WE NEED TO STICK TO THE PLAN, BUT WE NEED TO STICK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS OUTDATED.
SO IF YOU COULD HAVE OR YOURSELF OR STAFF SPEAK ON LIKE WHERE WE'RE ENVISIONING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISION 2040 INDUSTRIAL IN THE FUTURE FOR FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A REZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MORPHEW.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO ON AND ESSENTIALLY COMPLETE ADD DATA TO WHAT WE'RE GATHERING TO PROVIDE YOUR INPUT ON WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE AREAS IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT AREAS THAT ARE NOT YET DEVELOPED IN THE CITY FOR THE POTENTIAL TO EXPAND AND ADD MORE COMMERCIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF ZONING WHERE IT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD LIKE TO TO GROW WITH THE CITY OR MOVE HERE.
SO THAT'S ACTIVELY UNDERWAY WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I WOULD JUST ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS BRIEFLY.
ONE IS THE THE PROPERTY THAT IS FOR THIS MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX IS IS BEING DEVELOPED.
IT WAS ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY SOME YEARS BACK.
AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PARTICULAR ACTION, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE STORMWATER RETENTION AND TREATMENT ON SITE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP THAT THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT.
ALSO, JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE OTHER RESIDENT QUESTIONS, IF I MIGHT.
UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT EXPANDING EXISTING STORMWATER RETENTION AREA CAPACITY WITHIN THE DRISCOLL NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN A HISTORICAL ISSUE.
SO WE'RE WE'VE ACTUALLY SET ASIDE SOME GRANT FUNDS TO WORK THROUGH THAT THAT'S ACTIVELY UNDERWAY.
AND THEN ALSO JUST IN BRIEF TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND WHO PAYS FOR THEM TYPICALLY AND THIS IS THE CASE FOR BOTH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY. ONCE A DEVELOPER COMES WITH A PLAN, THEY HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND THEN THEY'RE OFTENTIMES REQUIRED, IF IT'S WARRANTED, TO PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN.
AND ALTHOUGH THE TIME WAS NOT YET RIGHT WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT, WE WERE DEFINITELY TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE WHERE WE MAY NEED TO PLAN SOMETHING HAPPENING SIMULTANEOUSLY BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES AT THAT INTERSECTION.
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SO IF THEY'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AND THERE NEED TO BE IMPROVEMENTS ON OUR SIDE, WE'RE COORDINATING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH FLORIDA AVENUE.SO WE WILL JUST KIND OF SEE HOW THAT ALL SHAKES OUT WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU. SO JUST TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COMPLAINT IN THE FUTURE OF WHERE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS WITHIN OUR CITY AND HOW WE'RE SHIFTING THOSE THINGS.
WHERE CAN WE WE AT LEAST GEOGRAPHICALLY SHARE WITH THE AUDIENCE TODAY WHAT WHAT THE VISION IS? WELL, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT AT A STAFF LEVEL, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL IS THE COMPOUND.
UNITS 51, 52 AND 53 IN THE SOUTHWEST SECTION OF THE CITY.
THAT'S DEFINITELY WE'VE GOT OUR EYE ON THAT, FOR SURE.
SO A LOT OF POTENTIAL WHEN THAT IS BUILT OUT THERE.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSING. YOU MOVE, SIR? I WAS TRACKING THAT.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
MOTION APPROVAL. AND IT'S 2022 DASH 90.
SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING ABOUT COUNCILMAN FEELINGS.
ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR? YEAH, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT WITH THE INDUSTRIAL, BUT I SEE AND I'VE TALKED TO STAFF, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT IT UP IN REGARDS TO THE FUTURE OF INDUSTRIAL.
AND THE COMPOUND HAS BEEN IN PLACE THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT AS A PRIME LOCATION.
SO WITH THAT, I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
AREA. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD, EXCEPT I DO SEE THE VALUE OF THIS CHANGE AS TO BECAUSE THE CONCERN OF MEN CONCERN IS IS TO CONTROL THE STORMWATER RETENTION.
FOR THAT REASON, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THAT, NOT NECESSARILY ADDING MORE AND MORE APARTMENT.
I KNOW THERE'S QUITE A BIT GOING ON IN THAT VICINITY AND BUT YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT IT FOR THAT.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
RIGHT. ANY OPPOSE PASSES 3 TO 2.
BUT WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
COUNCIL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING A SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STOP COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59 103 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
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THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
AND ORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING A ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM LEE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING DISTRICT TO HOUR 15 SINGLE TO A MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO DOROTHEA FIELDS AVENUE, IN THE VICINITY WEST OF NORTH VIEW STREET, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
MIGUEL RONALDO'S NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT 2295 SOUTH SHIAWASSEE ROAD, ORLANDO 32835.
BASICALLY, I'M HERE AND ADDRESSING THE SAME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR ANYONE ELSE.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
ANY COMMENTS? JUST ONE THING I'D FORGOTTEN TO RESPOND TO ONE OF THE RESIDENT COMMENTS UNDER THE EARLIER ITEM REGARDING THE FIRE STATION.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO HAVE PLANS ACTIVELY UNDERWAY TO RE TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION ON THE SITE OF THE OLD FIRE STATION ONE ON PALM BAY ROAD. SO FIRE STATION SEVEN IS WHAT IT WILL BE CALLED, AND WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING TOWARD THAT GOAL.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
DEPUTY MAYOR AND THE SPEAKER, MISS MARGARET DEHART, FOLLOWED BY CONNIE MCCLEARY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MISS CONNIE MCCLURE.
GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN, COUNSEL AND CORNER MCCLEARY, 2245 NORTH VIEW STREET.
TO A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ARE IT GOING TO BE RENTED OUT TO ANYBODY? OR HOW WOULD YOU GO BY DOING YOUR BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING? AND MY CONCERN IS STILL WITH THE FLOODING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A BIG STORM THAT COME THROUGH SINCE 2004.
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THE FLOOD HAD BEEN TAKEN CARE OF OR NOT.
SO I HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH THAT, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW HE WAS SAYING HE ADDRESSED THAT.
BUT STILL, MY CONCERN IS WITH THE FLOOD AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY.
AND HOW WOULD HE GO ABOUT DOING BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THEM? THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THAT'S IT. IF I COULD ADD TO THAT FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA AND THAT COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT SHE'S GETTING TO IS LIKE THEY WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SHINING AND DOING WELL OVER THERE.
SO SHE'S ASKING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH APARTMENTS SOMETIMES THERE'S THERE'S THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN INCREASE IN CRIME IN THAT VICINITY, POSSIBLE OF BURGLARIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE MISS CONNIE IS GETTING FROM, SO SHE'S ASKING, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE GOING TO BE BACKGROUND CHECKS? WHAT'S THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE? I'M NOT SURE. THE SAFETY OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
YEAH, WE WE ACTUALLY BRING IN A PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGER TO DO THIS THE SAME ACTUALLY THE SAME COMPANY THAT'S MANAGING THE AQUA APARTMENTS ACROSS OUR CONLIN. SO YOU'LL ALWAYS SEE THAT IT'S SECURE, THAT IT'S ORGANIZED, IT'S CLEAN.
I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE MARKET RATE HOUSING.
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SO IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC OR TARGET, BUT THERE'S THERE'S FEDERAL LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO APPLY WITH ON EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES.SO I CAN'T SAY ONE OR THE OTHER BECAUSE ONE I DON'T KNOW.
AND THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF MY ENTIRE MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO IT WOULD REALLY HURT ME AS WELL AS YOU TO DO SOMETHING NEGATIVE.
AND I HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT.
I HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING NEGATIVE.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ELABORATE.
AND. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
I UNDERSTAND HER CONCERN VERY WELL, BUT.
THE AQUA APARTMENTS YOU RENT TO CHILD MOLESTERS.
I'M NOT A PROPERTY MAN KNOWN AS A.
WELL, DO YOU RENT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FELONS, FELONS OF A VIOLENT CRIME? NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
ABSOLUTELY. SO OK. WELL, LITTLE CHILDREN PLAY OR THEY PICKED IT UP.
SOMEONE WHO'S A FUGITIVE FROM THE LAW WOULDN'T BE YOU WOULDN'T BE RENTING AN APARTMENT FOR THEM? NO. THESE ARE BASIC THINGS THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX APARTMENT MANAGERS LOOK AT.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S YOUR SAFETY CONCERN BECAUSE THE POLICE CANNOT BE THERE 24/7, BUT CERTAIN APARTMENT COMPLEX MANAGEMENT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST YOUR APARTMENT.
THIS IS YOUR APARTMENT IN GENERAL.
THERE'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND APOLOGIES.
I DON'T MAINTAIN THE PROPERTIES, I.
I'M THE GUY WHO. I'M THE NUTS AND BOLTS GUY ON THE GUY WHO DESIGNS AND BUILT.
I'M NOT GIVING YOU A SOLID YES OR NO ANSWER ON ON BACKGROUND CHECKS.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY DO, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE ALSO DOING CREDIT CHECKS ON EVERYBODY AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO STAY HERE IN THESE PLACES MOSTLY.
VIOLENT CRIMINALS DON'T HAVE GOOD CREDIT ANYWAY, BUT.
LET'S JUST GO ALONG WITH THE TERRITORY.
I'M A LITTLE FAMILIAR IN THIS AREA, BEING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR SO MANY YEARS.
OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THESE QUESTIONS.
WHAT'S THE UTILITIES WITH ACTIVITIES GOING ON AND SOMETHING TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? IF YOU SEE SOME CRIMINAL ACTIVITY GOING ON IN YOUR PROPERTY, WOULDN'T YOU ADDRESS IT? WE ALSO CALL THE POLICE.
WE DON'T TOLERATE THIS AT ALL.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT NOW.
AND I WILL I WILL LOOK INTO THIS FURTHER.
WE STILL HAVE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS COMING UP.
WE ALWAYS INTEND ON PUTTING SITE PROTECTION AND SECURITY ON OUR PERIMETERS.
AND IT'S AND I'VE BEEN ON YOUR PROPERTY BEFORE, AND IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 91 FIRST READING SO I CAN. AT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
DEPUTY MAYOR, NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.
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COUNCILMAN FOSTER NOTHING MUCH TO ADD OTHER THAN THAT WHOLE AREA IS CHANGING.AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMERCIAL PIECE GOING ON IN.
L3. HARRIS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE, PROBABLY LIVE IN THAT AREA.
SO THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EARN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INCOME PRODUCING PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.
RESOLUTION 2020 241, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CAR WASH AT A PROPOSED AUTOMOBILE SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT IN S.C..
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTIES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MINTON AND MALABAR ROADS, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GREETING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDED FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
EXCUSE ME. WE'RE CONDUCTING A MEETING.
I DIDN'T WANT TO USE THE GAVEL, BUT YOU CAN YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT OUTSIDE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SMITH.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNER IN THIS CASE.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNCIL.
YES, SIR. YOU STILL SEE THIS AS A A PROFITABLE OR BENEFICIAL INCLUSION TO THIS AREA? YES, WE DO.
WE'VE AS YOU GUYS WELL KNOW, THE AUTOMATED CAR WASH INDUSTRY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE POPPING UP EVERYWHERE.
AND THIS THAT'S A QUESTION WE RUN INTO QUITE A BIT.
AND OUR TENANTS DO EXTENSIVE MARKET STUDIES BEFORE WE MOVE THIS FAR INTO THE PROCESS.
SO, YES, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A MARKET SHARE HERE FOR US.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.
WILL IT BE LIKE A BILLS CAR WASH THAT THEY STILL EMPLOY FOLKS, OR IS IT JUST STRICTLY AUTOMATED? THEY'LL HAVE PROBABLY HALF A DOZEN OR SO EMPLOYEES.
THEY'LL STILL BE A A CASHIERS POSITION FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NEWLY SUBSCRIBING WORKERS, KEEPING THE PROPERTY CLEAN, DEALING WITH ISSUES, MAINTENANCE ONSITE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? WHAT IS THAT LIKE A MILE AND A HALF? I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. NO, SIR.
AND IT'S IT'S IN BETWEEN CVS, IF YOU KNOW MINTON ROAD, IN BETWEEN CVS AND THE 7-ELEVEN, I REMEMBER DRIVING BY THAT THAT PARCEL. SO THERE'S A SEVEN THERE'S A SHELL STATION THERE THAT'S VACANT THAT WE JUST APPROVED FOR A CAR WASH THERE.
SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE POINT OF THE DEPUTY MAYOR'S QUESTION IS, WELL, WILL YOU GUYS BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT THAT COMPETITION? WE BELIEVE SO. WE'VE DONE DEVELOPMENTS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, EVEN HERE ON THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE CVS WALGREENS MODEL.
WE'VE SEEN THEM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT INTERSECTIONS FROM EACH OTHER.
AND THE MARKET STUDIES STILL SHOW THAT YOU CAN BE PROFITABLE DOING THAT.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? HERE IS THE SAME FELIX SAME LINE OF QUESTION.
SO YOU GUYS ARE ASKING TO ADD AN ALTERNATIVE FACILITY OPTIONS FACILITY ON THE SAME, SAME SITE.
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YEAH. SO THE HARD CORNER OF MINTON AND MALABAR ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE, WE'LL HAVE THE OIL CHANGE FACILITY.THEY WON'T BE LIKE A CAR WASH.
COMBINE TWO SEPARATE BUSINESS.
YES, SIR. IT WAS THREE ACROSS THE STREET AS AN EXPRESS, THIS KIND OF SAME CONCEPT.
YES, SIR. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNSEL. ALL RIGHT.
MADAM SHERMAN. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? OR ANY ANY COMMON SENSE SHOULD TAKE NOTHING FURTHER UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
ALL RIGHT. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
WE SHOULD APPROVE RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 41.
SECOND AD, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING AND MIKE COUNCILMAN FELIX.
THIS FORCE THE COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THIS ONE I WAS I WAS ON I WAS KIND OF ON THE FENCE ABOUT BEING THAT THERE'S ONE SO CLOSE BY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF CAPITALISM.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT DRIVES, YOU KNOW, COMPETITION.
COMPETITION. LIKE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MAKES US THE GREATEST NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
SO TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT FEELS STRONGLY THAT THEY'LL BE GOOD AND SO BE IT.
YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL.
NOW WE HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH CAR WASH AND ALL CHANGE PLAYS.
I REALLY DON'T. YOU KNOW, WE COMPLAIN ABOUT TRAFFIC.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS NOT WIDELY USED IN PALM BAY.
A LOT OF VEHICLES ON THE ROAD.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE CLEAN AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO ALL CHANGE.
UNTIL WE GET TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO AND WE'RE A LONG WAY FROM THAT.
AND I'M WITH YOU. WOULD I HAVE YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE COMPETITION PART.
WOULD I HAVE LIKED A NICE RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER OF MINTON ROAD, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE COULD JUST GO TO GO TO CHOW. BUT LISTEN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
AND I'M I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS COUNCIL.
COMMERCIAL. IT'S A COMPETITION.
IT'S WHAT THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED ON.
SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTIONS ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 42 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE FOR STORES OF LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, CHEMICALS AND SIMILAR PRODUCTS IN HIGH, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO ROWENA DRIVE, IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF ROBERT JAY COLLIN BOULEVARD, EAST OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE, PROVIDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN.
PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING OUR CONDITIONAL USE TONIGHT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO DO A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING HERE.
FIRST, WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE FROM OUR FAR GROUP THAT WILL BE HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
TONIGHT ON OUR TEAM WILL BE CECILIA BONIFAY.
AND CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK IN MY CHAIR? SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD. ACTUALLY, CAN WE RAISE THE PODIUM SO THAT.
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SO, YES, WE HAVE CECILIA BONIFAY HERE.THAT IS THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY.
AND ALSO WE HAVE LOUIS GRAHAM, WHICH IS WITH FA FOR A SAFETY OFFICER.
AND STEVEN MIRABELLA, ABELLA, I'M SORRY, WHICH IS THE PLANT MANAGER.
WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? MY NAME IS EVAN FUTCH.
I AM WITH AVID GROUP AND I AM FROM 605 EAST ROBINSON IN ORLANDO.
AND WE'RE HERE OBVIOUSLY TO PRESENT FOR FARR CHEMICAL'S WAREHOUSE.
GETTING INTO THAT, WE HAVE MET OUR REQUIREMENTS, THUS MOVING TO THIS POINT.
WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING BACK ON JULY 20TH.
WE DID DO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND OUR STAFF REPORT WAS FAVORABLE.
IF THERE'S ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL THAT'S NOT FAMILIAR, BASICALLY FAR WORKS WITH DIFFERENT CHEMICAL PRODUCTS TO PROVIDE AN END USE FOR SUCH THINGS AS THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY.
AND ALSO, LET ME JUST MOVE THIS UP, ACTUALLY.
THERE YOU GO FOR THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY, ALSO FOR PERSONAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS, ADHESIVES.
FARRER CHEMICAL HAS BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR ABOUT 39 YEARS, GOING ON 40 YEARS.
THEY HAVE BEEN IN AS THE EXISTING LOCATION SINCE 1983.
THEY EMPLOY 40 PLUS EMPLOYEES AT THIS LOCATION AND THEY SOURCE A LOT OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT THROUGH SUCH PLACES AS FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY. THEY ALSO WORK WITH PROGRAMS IN THE AREA SUCH AS THE SECOND CHANCE PROGRAMS AS IN RISE, AND THEY ALSO WORK WITH THE BREVARD CAREER SOURCE AND THEY ALSO ATTEND CHAMBER FUNCTIONS AS WELL AS TRYING TO BE A RESPONSIBLE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
IN THAT AS FAR AS LET'S MOVE FORWARD HERE.
THERE'S EVERY SPACE THERE THEY HAVE IS STORING SOMETHING.
AND THEY WANT TO UPDATE THAT WAREHOUSE INTERNALLY TO PROVIDE STATE OF THE ART STORAGE AREA FOR SOME OF THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THEIR MAIN SITE AND THE SITE.
BUT THE MAIN FACILITY TO THE EAST WILL CURRENTLY HAS SOME CHEMICALS THAT ARE STORED IN AN OUTDOOR AREA, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THOSE CHEMICALS INTO AN INDOOR AREA. AS I SAID, WITH STATE OF THE ART CONTROL FEATURES, IT'S FIRE SUPPRESSION AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TO HELP THAT HELP FURTHER ADVANCE SAFE STORAGE OF CHEMICALS. KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE THEY'RE AT.
THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS A WAREHOUSE AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS THEIR MAIN FACILITY.
ALL THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE ALSO INDUSTRIAL WITH WHEN I SAY TO THE NORTH ACROSS THE STREET.
ONCE YOU GET OUT OF THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING, IT TURNS INTO SINGLE FAMILY.
RESIDENCE HAS BEEN THERE MANY MANY YEARS BEFORE FAR CHEMICAL AND TO THE SOUTH AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT IMAGE, IT APPEARS TO BE AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY WHICH USED TO HOUSE A CEMENT PLANT.
I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION.
AND I JUST WANT TO RUN DOWN THE CONDITIONAL USE CRITERIA.
THE BASICALLY CRITERIA A SUGGESTS OR INDICATES THAT WE HAVE TO MEET EGRESS AND INGRESS.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY.
THIS OUTSIDE FACILITY CURRENTLY HAS ADEQUATE INGRESS AND EGRESS.
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THERE'S NO IMPACTS ASSOCIATED.IT'S A THE LOCATION THAT IT'S AT DEAD ENDS AND IT'S ALL INDUSTRIAL.
SO IT'S NOT A PASS THROUGH ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE ACCESS WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
HOWEVER, WE DO PROVIDE 20 FOOT OF CLEARANCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING.
SO WE'RE WE'RE KEEPING A SAFE AREA AROUND THE BUILDING TO BUILD TO DO THAT NOW ALSO TO IS OFF STREET PARKING CURRENTLY THE PARKING IS CFI HAVE HERE.
YEAH LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
CURRENTLY THE PARKING IS FIVE SPACES THAT ARE IN DIRT THAT IS PARTIALLY IN THE RIGHT WAY.
SO WITH OUR PROPOSAL, WE'RE PLANNING ON MOVING THOSE PARKING SPACES INTO OUR PROPERTY LINES.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CURRENTLY PLANNING ON UPDATING ONE OF THE SPACES TO AN ADA SPACE FOR ANY NEEDS OF THOSE THAT ARE THAT ARE IN NEED OF AN ADA SPACE AND WITH CONNECTING SIDEWALKS AS NEEDED.
NOW I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE THERE MAY BE AN EXEMPTION IN THE PROCESS FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, BUT THAT'S THAT WILL BE DETERMINED AT SITE PLAN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S THE CASE. THE PLAN DOES INDICATE, THOUGH, THAT THERE IS FIVE SPACES REQUIRED FOR A WAREHOUSE OF THIS SIZE.
AND WE WERE WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE STAFF TO DEAL WITH THAT DURING SITE PLAN AND BE ABLE TO TO GET AN ACCEPTABLE RESOLUTION AND BE ABLE TO IF WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FIVE SPACES, WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROVIDE THEM.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL IMPACT TO UTILITIES AND NOTHING'S CHANGING WITH OUR UTILITY USAGE.
AND THERE'S CURRENTLY UTILITIES TO THE BUILDING D SCREENING AND BUFFERING.
A STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL USES AND ALSO THERE'S EXISTING TREES AND LANDSCAPING AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT SEPARATES US FROM THE BAYFRONT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
THAT PROPERTY CURRENTLY OUR PROPERTY HAS A CHAIN LINK FENCE ALL AROUND IT AS ADDITIONS.
THAT'S YOU THAT'S USED FOR SECURITY OBVIOUSLY.
AND WE WILL AGAIN BE WORKING WITH WILL AGAIN BE WORKING WITH THE STAFF DURING THE CYCLONE PROCESS TO PROVIDE ANY REQUIRED BUFFERING OR SCREENING THAT THE CITY MAY REQUIRE.
THERE'S NO SIGNS PROPOSED FOR THIS SITE.
IT IS SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF WAREHOUSING MATERIALS.
A LIMITED AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES WILL BE AT THIS FACILITY, TOO, AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
WE ESTIMATE APPROXIMATELY THREE EMPLOYEES.
BASICALLY, THOUGH, IT'S THERE'S SOME NON CONFORMING USES AS IT'S AN OLD PROPERTY.
AND OUR PURPOSE TODAY ISN'T TO CHANGE THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S SIMPLY TO ADD WHAT WE CAN STORE.
SO THAT'S AND WE'LL GET INTO DETAIL ABOUT THAT AFTER A LITTLE BIT.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE OR A HAZARD IS WHAT G INDICATES.
AND WE DON'T FEEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE OR A HAZARD AT THIS FACILITY.
FAR ALREADY OWNS THE FACILITIES.
THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING USE OF THE FACILITY.
THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THEIR CAPACITY.
THEY CAN THEY ALREADY ARE USING IT.
THEY'RE AT CAPACITY FOR STORAGE.
SO ALL THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS SWAP OUT WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE BUILDING.
TO PUT OUTSIDE AND PUT THE CHEMICALS INSIDE IS WHAT THEY'RE INTENDING TO DO.
SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF INCREASING CAPACITY THAT THAT WAS A PRIOR CONCERN.
MOVING ON. LET'S LOOK AT THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE.
THEY ACTED AS INDEPENDENT BAYS FOR WHATEVER THE PROPERTY IS USED PREVIOUSLY FOR.
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AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP IMAGE, WE'RE SIMPLY CLEARING OUT A LOT OF THOSE WALLS AND WE'RE PUTTING ONE PARTITION WALL IN.SO THERE HAVE A MINIMUM OFFICE UP AT THE FRONT WITH A BATHROOM AND THEN THEN TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE UNIT WHERE YOU SEE THE PARTITION WITH A BREAK IN IT, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE CHEMICALS ARE TO BE HELD.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO GET IN A LITTLE MORE OF THAT AND SOME MORE SLIDES HERE.
THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AT THE TIME THAT THE PLANT WAS OPENED AND IT WAS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, IT HAS SINCE BEEN RE A BAYFRONT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT PROPERTY WAS REZONED AND AT THAT TIME THEY HAD INTENDED TO TO PLACE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON IT ADJACENT TO THE INDUSTRIAL.
AND AT THAT TIME, IT WAS DEEMED COMPATIBLE.
SO WITH THAT, THE CODE ALSO PROVIDES TRANSITION ZONING, WHICH JUST INCREASES BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.
IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A HEAVY, MATURE TREE LOAD THAT'S IN THE BACK THAT SEPARATES US.
BUT ALSO WE HAVE A CURRENT CHAIN LINK FENCE.
BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THE CODE THAT THEY'LL REQUIRE.
I THINK IT GIVES AN OPTION FOR MASONRY WALL OR A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL OR SIX FOOT FENCE.
AND DUE TO THE MATURE TREES, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IN A FENCE.
ALSO TO THE DEVELOPMENT ON ITEM I WE ARE AS A AS THE DEVELOPERS THERE ACCEPTABLE TO CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARDS AS YOU DEEM THEM TO BE NECESSARY.
SO WE'RE OPEN TO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND WORK WITH YOU WITH THIS COUNCIL.
AH. THE NEXT SLIDE, I PASSED A SLIDE.
NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A ZONING MAP SHOWING YOU LOCATION WHERE WE HAVE THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED, AND THEN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH AND THEN IT SWITCHES OVER TO HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
FURTHER NORTH TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE AS MENTIONED.
SOUTH OF THAT WE ALSO HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND TO THE WEST PAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
ALSO, TOO, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS A SUBMITTED PLAN AND THAT'S IN REVIEW FOR THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSING APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THEY ARE PROPOSING A RETENTION POND WHICH IS DIRECTLY LOCATED BEHIND THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE TONIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING, WHICH ONLY FURTHER TALKS TO THE COMPATIBILITY OF OUR USE TO THEIR USE.
AND ALSO IN THAT IN THAT SAME THING, THE NEED TO REMOVE THOSE CHEMICALS FROM THE OUTDOOR STORAGE AND PUTTING IT INTO A INTO A, INTO A FACILITY THAT IS STATE OF THE ART IS EVEN MORE SO AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE ONE APARTMENT BUILDING AND IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE MAIN SITE.
SO BEING A REASONABLE NEIGHBOR AND BEING RESPONSIBLE, IT'S THIS CONDITIONAL USE IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET SO WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THOSE CHEMICALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY STORED IN THE OPEN AIR AND GET THEM IN A IN A FACILITY THAT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED FOR THEM.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE STEVEN MIRABELLA COME UP HERE AND TALK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OPERATIONS AND MORE ABOUT THE FACILITY ITSELF.
GENTLEMEN, I APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS'S TIME.
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ALMOST 25 YEARS.THEY'RE WORKING WITH WITH THAT COMPANY.
SO I KIND OF MADE A COUPLE OF BRIEF, BRIEF SLIDES ON THE WAY TOP BUTTON.
I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE BIG BUTTON NEXT TIME.
SO AS YOU SEE ON THE ON THE SLIDE HERE, I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO BUILDING 15.
THIS IS THE THE BUILDING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR.
AS YOU SEE, WE'VE GOT EIGHT BAYS IN THAT BUILDING.
BASICALLY, THEY'RE ALL FILLED WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT.
IN THE UPPER CORNER, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE CURRENT GROUNDS AND THE WAY BUILDING 15 IS IS KEPT.
BAY ONE THAT I'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE THERE, THAT'S OUR OPERATIONAL SUPPLY.
SO IN BAYS TWO AND THREE UP THERE, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE BASICALLY WE HAVE SOME SOME FIVE GALLON NEW, SOME NEW FIVE GALLON DRUMS AND AND SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS PACKAGING STUFF THAT WE WE DO SOME SHIPPING AND RECEIVING.
AS YOU LOOK AT BAY FOUR, THAT'S WHERE WE KEEP OUR WHOPPER OF PPE GEAR.
IT'S WE'VE GOT SOME SCUBA YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK LEFT THERE FOR FOUR RESPOND FOR OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM AND WE'VE GOT SOME UP AND UP IN THE UPPER UPPER DECK THERE WE'VE GOT RESPECT SUITS OVER ON THE ON THE LEFT SIDE.
WE GOT SOME LEVEL A RESPONDING SUITS THAT WE HAVE HAVE THERE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE DID RECOGNIZE FOR THE SITE THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON IS GETTING ALL OUR OPERATORS TRAINED ON HAS WHOPPER SO THAT THEY CAN RESPOND TO ANY KIND OF EMERGENCY AT THE SITE AND AND HAVING THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SUPPLIES THERE FOR THEM AT THE SITE.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE BASICALLY PORTABLE EQUIPMENT.
A LOT OF OUR OUR JOBS AT THIS SITE IS, LIKE WE SAID, WE'RE A SPECIALTY CHEMICAL COMPANY.
WE DON'T WE DON'T WAREHOUSE WE DON'T WAREHOUSE CHEMICALS AS AS A BUSINESS.
RIGHT. WE WE BASICALLY GET LIKE PFIZER AND MERCK AND THOSE COMPANIES, THEY'VE GOT BIG BUYING POWER.
WHEN WE RECEIVE ALL OF THOSE CHEMICALS, WE STORE THEM PROPERLY.
WE PROCESS THEM IN BUILDING 14.
AND THEN WE SHIP THOSE CHEMICALS OUT AND WE SHIP OFF TO THE WASTE OUT.
SO SO HERE AS PART OF THAT, WE DO USE SOME PORTABLE EQUIPMENT IN THOSE PROCESSING STEPS.
AND WE WOULD WE BRING THOSE BASICALLY OVER TO BUILDING 14 TO MANUFACTURE THOSE CHEMICALS.
AS YOU MOVE DOWN TO THE LAST COUPLE OF BAYS, WHICH IS SEVEN AND EIGHT, THIS IS WHERE WE GET BRING IN STORE NEW DRUMS. THOSE ARE FOR EVERYTHING THAT GOES OUT IS IS PRETTY MUCH SHIPPED IN 55 GALLON DRUMS, 35 GALLON DRUMS. SO WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AREA DEDICATED TO STORING THOSE STORAGE.
WHAT'S IN THOSE DRUMS IN SEVEN AND EIGHT RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE BRAND NEW DRUMS. YOU CAN SEE THEM. THEY'RE THEY'RE SHRUNK.
THEY'VE GOT SHRINK WRAP ON THEM.
THESE ARE ALL PACKAGING, BRAND NEW STUFF THAT WE SHIP THAT WE HAVE STORED IN THERE.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS I WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU IS WHAT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE BEFORE AND AFTER, RIGHT? I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSION POINTS WE HAD WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
AND AND I THINK THIS PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE IN THE LEFT THE SAME AS WHAT I JUST SHOWED YOU WHAT'S IN HOUSED IN THAT BUILDING.
AND THEN WHAT I AM SHOWING YOU IS WHERE WE WHERE WE STORE FLAMMABLE MATERIALS.
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WE HAVE THE THE IMMEDIATE AREA IN THE CENTER WE CALL THE COURTYARD.WE BASICALLY BRING IN MATERIALS TO INTO STAGE THEM FOR BUILDING 14 PRODUCTION.
BUILDING 14 IS THE IS THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY ON THE FAR RIGHT IS THE LARGE BUILDING IN THE CENTER.
AND THAT'S OUR MAIN PRODUCTION BUILDING.
AND WE PUT THEM IN THE COURTYARD AND THEN BRING THEM IN THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
I'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED THERE, WHICH IS SIX, SEVEN AND THREE.
THAT'S THOSE ARE THOSE ARE BASICALLY FLAMMABLE STORAGE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE FIRE SUPPRESSION, AUTOMATIC FIRE SUPPRESSION, CONTAINMENT, EVERYTHING WHERE WE PROPERLY BRING IN RAW MATERIALS.
THE IF WE OBVIOUSLY AFTER THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS BRING THE MATERIALS THAT WE WE STORE TEMPORARILY IN THE COURTYARD AS OUR STAGING AREA FOR 14.
WE WOULD BRING THAT INTO STATE OF THE ART STORAGE AND BUILDING 15 WHERE WE WOULD UPDATE THAT BUILDING HAVE AUTOMATED FIRE FIRE SUPPRESSION LIKE BUILDING SIX, SEVEN AND THREE AND HAVE CONTAINMENT.
AND THEN WE WOULD STAGE ALL THOSE MATERIALS OUT OF THAT BUILDING NOW.
EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF THIS SITE IS TAKEN UP WITH EQUIPMENT.
BY CHANGING THE CONDITIONAL USE OF BUILDING 15.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AFTER THE STATE THAT WE WOULD BE IN, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE WOULD MOVE OUT OF BUILDING 15 AND WE WOULD RELOCATE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANT.
AND WHAT WE WOULD BRING INTO BUILDING 15 FOR, I WOULD SAY PROPER STORAGE, RESTORE EVERYTHING PROPERLY CURRENTLY, BUT, BUT TO HAVE IT UNDER AUTOMATIC FIRE SUPPRESSION AND CONTAINMENT.
AND I THINK THIS IS THIS IS THE PIECE THAT IS THE BENEFIT FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND.
SO THE VERY FIRST PART OF THIS.
RIGHT, IS I THINK THIS BENEFITS BASICALLY THE PALM BAY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE EMERGENCY RESPONDING TEAM, BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS IT REMOVES IT TAKES CHEMICALS THAT WE STAGE AND WE USE.
WE PUT IT IN A AREA THAT WE CAN KEEP IT UNDER AUTOMATIC FIRE SUPPRESSION THE WHOLE TIME.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY GOOD FOR FOR OUR EMERGENCY RESPONDING TO TEAM IF SOMETHING DID BREAK OUT IN THE COURTYARD, IT WOULD BE EXTINGUISHED BEFORE THE EMERGENCY TEAM RESPONSE.
I REALLY WANTED TO I SEE LESLIE HERE FROM AS THE FIRE CHIEF AND I REALLY WANTED HER TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AND GET HER FEEDBACK BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN HER AND HER TEAM'S BEEN REALLY FANTASTIC.
SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND I THINK THEY WOULD APPROVE APPROVE THIS FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
THE OTHER THING, OBVIOUSLY, IT STREAMLINES OUR BUSINESS, SO IT ALLOWS ALL THE CHEMICALS TO COME IN IN BAY EIGHT AND WE KEEP EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF THE PLANT SO WE CAN MOVE STUFF IN AND OUT EASILY.
SO ALL OF THAT PORTABLE EQUIPMENT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR US.
AND AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE HEART OF CHANGING OVER FROM PRODUCT PRODUCT LINES TO PRODUCT LINES.
AND I THINK THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO I WANTED EVERYONE TO GET AN IDEA OF IS THAT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS BECAUSE WE MOVE BUILDING THREE FLAMMABLE STORAGE INTO 15, IT REDUCES SOME OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERN TO THE EAST AND IT ALSO GETS THOSE CHEMICALS FARTHER AWAY FROM OUR OUR POTENTIAL FUTURE NEIGHBORS AND PUTS THE CHEMICALS FARTHER AWAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PLANT.
SO I THINK IT'S GOOD IT'S GOOD FOR THEM, FOR FUTURE NEIGHBORS.
IT'S GOOD FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR OUR CHEMICAL.
SO THOSE WERE THOSE WERE THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.
AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, THANK YOU.
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AND STEVE, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.JUST A QUICK TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY OPEN VIOLATIONS ON SITE? NO, SIR. OKAY.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY RECENT INCIDENTS ON THE SITE? NO. IN THE PAST MONTH OR TWO? NO, SIR. MATTER OF FACT, I WE'RE IN THIS SHIRT BECAUSE I'M REALLY PROUD OF IT, SINCE THIS IS A 365 SAFETY SHIRT THAT WE'VE HAD WITHOUT INCIDENTS AT THE SITE SINCE I TOOK OVER AS MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT'S A FOR ANY KIND OF CHEMICAL OR MANUFACTURING PLANT, THAT'S A FEAT THAT'S WELL REWARDED.
AND WE REWARDED EVERYBODY AT THE SITE WITH THESE SHIRTS TO COMMEMORATE COMMEMORATE THREE 6365 DAYS OF NO INJURIES AND NO NO RECORDABLE. THANK YOU, SIR.
SO, NO, NO OPEN VIOLATIONS AND NO INCIDENTS IN THE PAST 235 DAYS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN FOLSOM, I HAVE A QUESTION.
THE CHEMICAL YOU WANT TO STORE IN THIS BUILDING IS LIQUID PETROLEUM.
BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PUT IN THIS BUILDING? WHAT TYPE OF CHEMICALS YOU WANT TO PUT IN THIS BILL? IT'S WE HAVE THEM ALL LISTED.
I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF CHEMICAL HAVE A LOT OF CHEMICALS.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE HAVE THEM ALL LISTED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SHE HAS A LIST OF ALL OF THEM THAT WE WOULD THAT WE WOULD STORE IN THERE.
BUT THERE'S THERE'S PETROLEUM PRODUCTS.
WELL, LET ME CUT TO THE CHASE.
ANY OF THESE CHEMICALS HAS ADDED EXPLOSIVE.
THEY'RE FLAMMABLE. FLAMMABLE? YES. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE THESE CHEMICALS NOW ON THEIR PROPERTY? NOT IN A BUILDING.
UH, THEY'RE ALL STORED IN THOSE IN THOSE BUILDINGS I SHOWED YOU AND THE OTHER ONES.
WE STAGE THEM FOR BUILDING 14, WE STAGE THEM IN THE COURTYARD.
IN THE COURTYARD. THE SAME CHEMICALS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN.
YOU WANT TO PUT IN THIS BUILDING YOU HAVE ALREADY? YES, SIR. STORED.
AND YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION TO PUT IT IN THE BUILDING? YES. I THINK ANY TIME WE CAN IMPROVE THE WHERE WE CAN KEEP ALL THOSE CHEMICALS UNDER FIRE SUPPRESSION, AUTOMATIC FIRE SUPPRESSION IS A IS A BETTER WAY FOR US TO STORE.
AND IT'S ALSO A BETTER WAY FOR US TO MOVE OUR PORTABLE EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT OF 14.
SO, AGAIN, IT'S A NICE SWAP FOR US.
I THINK IT'S BENEFIT TO THE ANY KIND OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO AN EXTINGUISHED SITUATION VERSUS AN UNCONTROLLED SITUATION.
SO I THINK IT'S I'D A IT'S VALUABLE FOR THEM AS WELL.
HOW MANY TIME THROUGH THE YEAR DO YOU GET INSPECTED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION? WE JUST HAD THE ANNUAL FIRE.
JORDAN CAME AND JUST DID AN ANNUAL OUR ANNUAL FIRE DEPARTMENT INSPECTION WHERE THEY GO THROUGH BASICALLY THE WHOLE SITE AND LOOK FOR ANY POTENTIAL.
WE IMMEDIATELY RESPOND TO ANY OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I MEAN, WE REALLY KIND OF LEVERAGE THEIR EXPERTISE.
WE HAD ONE PROJECT THAT WE HAD, WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, AND WE BROUGHT THE WE ASKED LESLIE AND HER TEAM TO COME TO THE SITE BEFORE WE BEFORE WE DIDN'T MOVE ON THE PROJECT. SHE CAME WITH A GREAT SQUAD.
THEY CAME AND GAVE US RECOMMENDATIONS AND LOOKED AT THE SITE BEFORE ACTUALLY BEFORE WE DID ANYTHING.
WHAT ABOUT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION? I'LL PROBABLY TURN THAT OVER TO LOUIS.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CECILIA BONIFAY.
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE ACKERMAN FIRM HERE REPRESENTING PHARR CHEMICALS.
ALSO, LOUIS GRAHAM IS HERE, WHO'S THE SAFETY OFFICER, BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS ARE UNTRUE AND FACTUAL AND ARE FALSE. SO I CAN GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE LITANY WITH YOU NOW AND THE WAY THAT THAT HAS PROGRESSED ON THIS SITE.
OR WE CAN WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE ALL COMMENTS AND THEN I WILL ADDRESS IT.
THEN I THINK WE WAIT UNTIL WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE COMMENTS.
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THEN YOU CAN REBUT ALL THOSE COMMENTS.THANK YOU. ARE YOU DONE? COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. COUNCILMAN.
MAYOR, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANT MANAGER.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION.
NOW A FEW QUESTIONS MORE SO TO AS I LOOKED AT THE REQUEST BEFORE US TODAY, IT REALLY THE CORE ITEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PETROLEUM.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT THE ASK ON THE MIKE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE CORE ITEM OF THE REQUEST IS PETROLEUM, RIGHT? YES, SIR. AND SOME OTHER CHEMICALS, BUT MAKE SEVERAL REFERENCE TO THAT.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT REGARD SOME OF THEM.
COLLEAGUES ALREADY TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THAT PRODUCT IS CURRENTLY STORED ON SITE.
I DON'T. IF I HAD I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION TOMORROW.
WE KEEP WE KEEP RECORDS FOR ALL OUR INVENTORY, SHIPPING, RECEIVING.
SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF ALL THE TOTAL.
GIVE ME A TYPICAL WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY STORED EXACT.
SO SO WE'VE BASICALLY GOT BUILDING SIX IS THE IF I GO BACK A SLIDE.
BUILDING SIX IS THE MAIN FLAMMABLE STORAGE AREA AND BUILDING SEVEN THAT THAT'S CONSIST OF TEN BAYS. THERE'S I'M GOING TO TRY AND DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD.
HOW MANY. IT'S EASIER IF YOU CAME TO THE SITE AND SAW IT.
BUT TYPICALLY THERE'S TWO, ONE, TWO, THREE, THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE THREE PALLETS, TWO DEEP IN EACH BASE OF AND EACH ONE OF THOSE ARE 55 GALLON DRUMS. SO. I SAY IT'S TOUGH TO TAKE A SWAG HERE BECAUSE I DON'T.
HOW MUCH IN A PALLET YOU HAD 55 GALLON DRUMS. YOU SAID HOW MUCH IN A PALETTE? I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE THEM.
WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT INCREASING THE QUANTITY, BUT I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT NUMBER.
I'D RATHER. I'D RATHER SEND YOU OUR INVENTORY TOMORROW, IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
AND THAT WAY I CAN. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FEW MORE, SO.
KIND OF WENT DOWN AS FAR AS HOW IT'S BEING STORED CURRENTLY.
RIGHT. SO IT'S BEING STORED OUTSIDE, NOT IN A BUILDING.
GOT THAT? WHAT DO YOU USE IT FOR? I KNOW YOU HAVE SEVERAL PRODUCTS.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY? THIS PARTICULAR PRODUCT YOU USE IT FOR? SO THERE'S A THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PETROLEUM PRODUCTS THAT WE BRING IN AS RAW MATERIALS.
SO LIKE WE WOULD MAKE, I THINK.
THERE'S THERE'S BEAUTIFUL ORGANICS.
THERE'S X AND HEXANE ORGANICS THAT WE START WITH.
NONE OF THEM ARE REALLY COMMON.
LET'S SAY THERE'S MORE OF A IT'S MORE OF A CUSTOMER BASE, RAW MATERIAL THAT THEY BRING IN THAT'S A PETROLEUM ORGANIC PRODUCT OR A RAW MATERIAL. NOW.
DO YOU GUYS ORDER ENOUGH JUST YOU KNOW, JUST FOR YOUR USE AND CONTINUE ORDERED EXISTS.
HOW MUCH DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO OPERATE REGULAR BASIS? SO IN THIS CASE, THE THE ANSWER IS, IS YES, WE WE GET MATERIALS THAT ARE JUST ENOUGH MATERIALS TO MEET THAT ORDER.
AND LIKE I SAID, LIKE THE BIGGER PHARMACEUTICALS, RIGHT.
THEY'VE GOT THEY'VE GOT PURCHASING POWER.
SO THEY THEY PURCHASED THE RAW MATERIALS AND THEY SHIP THEM TO US AND THEN WE PROCESS THEM.
SOME OF OUR SMALLER COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, THEY LEVERAGE US TO BUY THE THE RAW MATERIALS.
SO THEN WE WOULD BUY THE RAW MATERIALS.
WE STORE THEM IN THOSE BUILDINGS.
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SO WE, WE WASH AFTER WE OBVIOUSLY OUR CUSTOMERS ARE EXPECTING US TO PROVIDE THEM A CLEAN, CLEAN REACTOR FOR FOR THEIR PRODUCT.SO MY QUESTION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
THE FIRST QUESTION I WANTED JUST TO COVER IS IT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT, RIGHT? COUNCILMAN. FELIX.
SPECIFICALLY SAID WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS THE LIQUID PETROLEUM, RIGHT.
THAT'S PRIMARILY WHY YOU COME IN HERE FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN FINED FOR ANYTHING BUT.
IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION IN MY EYES, IF IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN PLACE.
BUILDING THE REST OF THE PLANT.
THE REST OF THE PLANT IS IS TOTALLY.
EVERYTHING IN THERE IS PERMITTED TO TO BE USED AND PROCESS THOSE CHEMICALS.
THAT'S THE BUILDING THAT WE WE DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO BRING CHEMICALS ON THAT SITE.
WE'RE ASKING TO BRING THOSE RIGHT HERE.
WE'RE ASKING TO SWAP OUT SOME OF THOSE.
OK. SO THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO ASK, RIGHT? A FEW YEARS AGO, WE HAD AN ACCIDENT AT YOUR PLACE OF BUSINESS.
IS THAT CORRECT? HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS THAT? 20, 20, 20, 19, 20, 20, 2019? I BELIEVE IT WAS 2020.
SO IN 2020, WE WE HAD I BELIEVE WE WE WERE BLESSED NOT TO HAVE ANY INJURIES AT THAT AT THAT TIME.
CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY SHARE WITH ME WHAT IMPROVEMENTS YOU MADE SINCE THAT TIME? I THINK THE I THINK THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT OUT OF THAT INSTANT INCIDENT WAS US.
WE HAVE WE'VE PURCHASED A EXPLOSION PROOF COLD ROOM.
WHAT NOW? IT'S A IT'S A IT'S SOME OF THE CHEMICALS THAT WE STORE.
IT KEEPS KEEPS UNDER REFRIGERATION.
AND ONE OF THE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN CAUSE OF THAT INCIDENT.
LEWIS, LEWIS. I WAS GOING TO SAY LOUIS TALK.
HE SAID, LET ME HAVE OUR SAFETY INSPECTOR OR FA CHEMICAL.
YEAH, THAT'S FINE. IF ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK, MA'AM, OR IS HE GOING TO SPEAK? HE IS GOING TO SPEAK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE HIM.
I THINK I NEED MY ADDRESS, WHICH IS 10 MINUTES TO IN MANOR BEAR, DELAWARE.
SO I'M DOWN HERE A LOT AND I HAVE BEEN LATELY.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INCIDENT IN 2020 THAT DID OCCUR.
WE WERE LUCKY AND WE WERE IT WAS A BLESSING THAT NO ONE WAS HURT THERE.
THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE BEEN MAKING AS A NEW AS A NEW OWNER OF THIS FACILITY.
WE'VE PUT IN EMERGENCY GENERATORS FOR HURRICANES.
WE'VE GOTTEN A WAY BETTER WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE HAD THEM IN NUMEROUS TIMES.
WE'VE BEEN DOING PROCESS HAZARD ANALYSIS.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN DOING THAT.
THE PREVIOUS OWNER HADN'T REALLY BEEN DOING ALL OF THOSE.
WE'VE EXPANDED THAT TREMENDOUSLY.
WE BROUGHT IN STEVE FROM DUPONT.
DUPONT'S GOT A FABULOUS SAFETY RECORD.
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OK THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.LIKE STEVE SAID, WE HAVE WHAT WE DID INITIALLY.
WE DID A THOROUGH INCIDENT INVESTIGATION, CAME UP WITH THE ROOT CAUSES OF THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE TEN DIFFERENT CORRECTIVE ACTIONS AND WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE HAD TO DO WITH THE EXPLOSION PROOF UNIT.
THIS BUILDING IS ONE OF THE KEY, KEY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WE WANT TO DO.
IF WE'RE TO HAVE THAT BUILDING, THEN.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE FIRE SUPPRESSION.
WHAT HAPPENED? YOU HAD THE EXPLOSION.
WE HAD HAD THEM IN THAT BUILDING.
SO. IF YOU WANT A SAFER FACILITY.
THIS IS THE NEXT KEY STEP THAT WE WANT TO DO.
I WON'T SAY SEVERAL. WE'VE PUT IN WELL OVER MILLION DOLLARS IN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT WE'VE IMPROVED OUR FIRES, OUR EXISTING FIRE SUPPRESSION.
WITH THIS BUILDING, WE'VE INCREASED OUR WATER FLOW INTO A LOT OF THE AREAS.
THIS. THIS WOULD PREVENTED THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
THANK YOU. IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION.
WHAT? I'M SORRY, WHAT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS HAVE WE MADE SINCE THAT DEVASTATING EVENT BACK IN 2020? SO THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNCIL OK.
THAT'S WHY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS RICHARD DEWITT ON BEHALF OF MLF WORTHY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
JUST FOR SOME HOUSEKEEPING, YOU SHOULD HAVE A PACKET IN FRONT OF YOU THAT I PROVIDED.
SHOULD HAVE MY PRESENTATION AND SOME EXHIBITS IN THE BACK.
SO. WHY ARE WE HERE? WE ARE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER LOCATED AT 33, 70 AND 3420 DIXIE HIGHWAY.
WE'RE OPPOSING THE APPLICATION OF FA RESEARCH FOR THEIR CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW, LIKE WE DISCUSSED, STORAGE OF LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM PRODUCTS. IT'S NOT THE LITTLE EMPTY BARRELS.
IT'S NOT THE LITTLE PROTECTIVE GEAR.
IT'S FOR THE PROPOSED STORAGE OF LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM PRODUCTS AND OF CHEMICALS IN SIMILAR PRODUCTS.
NOW WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
AFTER HEARING TESTIMONY, REVIEWING EVIDENCE IN QUESTIONING, THE APPLICANT RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE APPLICATION.
NOW THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, AS YOU KNOW, OR FROM RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY AND REVIEW EVERYTHING AND THEN PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY.
NOW IN ORDER TO RECEIVE APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL TONIGHT, THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN TO PROVE THAT THEY MEET THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS OF YOUR CODE, AS WELL AS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE COMPLAINT.
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2019. THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE.NOW HERE'S WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT.
SO AGAIN FAR SEEKS TO STORE LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM PRODUCTS.
HOWEVER, WHAT FARR AND THE STAFF REPORT FAIL TO MENTION IS THAT FAR HAS BEEN STORING THESE HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS AT THAT PROPERTY SINCE 2019 IN VIOLATION OF SEVERAL CITY FIRE AND STATE REGULATION REGULATIONS.
NOW FAR HAS BEEN ANYTHING BUT A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY, AND THEY PARTICULARLY THUMBED THEIR NOSE AT THE CITY'S REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO 2650 ROWENA DRIVE, BUILDING 15 SINCE IT WAS PURCHASED IN 2019.
NOW, LET ME GO OVER THE REVIEW CRITERIA A LITTLE BIT.
THE APPLICANT WENT THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT FLU OR FUTURE LAND USE GOAL NUMBER FOUR PROVIDE SUFFICIENT AREA FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF CLEAN INDUSTRY TO PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND EXPAND THE CITY'S ECONOMIC BASE.
JUST FUTURE LAND USE POLICY FOR ONE BE DEVELOP AND INCORPORATE INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND CONTROLS TO EVALUATE AND MONITOR NEW INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, MINIMIZE IMPACTS ON NATURAL RESOURCES, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE OR HAZARD BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WHO WILL ATTEND OR USE THE FACILITY OR BECAUSE OF VEHICULAR MOVEMENT, NOISE, FUME GENERATION OR TYPE OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.
NOW, HERE'S WHY WE PROPOSE THAT THE APPLICANT DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA.
NOW, DESPITE THEIR SELF SERVING COMMENTS THAT THEY'VE REGARDING PROMISED COMPLIANCE WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND TOUTING ITS 35 YEAR HISTORY OF SAFE, RESPONSIBLE OPERATIONS, THE APPLICANT FAILS TO ADDRESS COMP PLAN COMPATIBILITY, WHICH CLEARLY HERE INDICATES THAT THEY HAVE NOT MET THEIR BURDEN.
AGAIN, LPG IS A COLORLESS, ODORLESS, FLAMMABLE GAS THAT IS AN ASPHYXIATE GAS THAT CAN CAUSE UNCONSCIOUSNESS AND OR DEATH IF THE OXYGEN LEVELS ARE SUFFICIENTLY REDUCED.
NOW AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE EXHIBITS AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE INFORMATION.
SO I'LL KEEP REFERRING BACK TO THE EXHIBITS FUTURE LAND USE POLICY FOR ONE.
BE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ABOUT MINIMIZING IMPACTS ON NATURAL RESOURCES, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THEN THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL HERE, THE GRANTING OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW STORAGE OF DANGEROUS CHEMICALS FAILS THE POLICY IN THAT FAS PAST PRACTICES.
HISTORY OF SAFETY VIOLATIONS AND INCIDENTS WOULD INCREASE, NOT MINIMIZE THE NATURAL THE IMPACTS ON NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND THAT'S I'M GOING TO GET INTO THAT INTO MY EXHIBITS.
NOW LET'S GO THROUGH D AND G OF THE CODE.
IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO, ITEM G, BUT IT'S SILENT ON FAS PAST HISTORY OF THEIR SAFETY ABUSES.
AND THEY ONLY REQUIRE A CHANGE OF USE PERMIT AND A FUTURE FIRE ANALYSIS NEEDED TO PROTECT THE STORAGE HAZARD AS OPPOSED TO PROTECTING THE PUBLIC.
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HERE ARE THE SOIL SCREENING AND BUFFERING PROPOSED IS LITERALLY A SIX INCH CHAIN LINK FENCE.NOW AS I'LL SHOW YOU IN THE EXHIBIT FAR CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO SAFELY STORE THESE DANGEROUS CHEMICALS AND A SIX INCH CHAIN LINK FENCE ISN'T GOING TO HELP THE LEAST ITEM.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE OR CAUSED NOISE, FUME GENERATION, ETC.
HERE FAST PASS HISTORY OF SAFETY ABUSES.
AGAIN, THEIR VIOLATIONS AND INCIDENTS, THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IN MY EXHIBITS.
SO FIRST EXHIBIT NUMBER ONE NOW.
IF YOU RECALL, LAST TIME FARR WAS BEFORE YOU, THEY TOUTED HOW DANGEROUS THEY WERE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING, LET'S LOOK AT PAGE ONE.
HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL PROFILES, THEN THEY LIST OUT BROMINE.
I CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE THE OTHER ONE TMCS.
THEN THEY GO THROUGH AND TELL YOU AN ACCIDENTAL SPILL OR RELEASE OF TMCS OR PRODUCE CORROSIVE HYDROCHLORIC ACID VAPOR CLOUDS. CLOUD IS INCIDENTS CLOSE TO THE FACILITY CAN BE EXPOSED TO THESE HAZARDOUS AIR EMISSIONS NOW.
THEY CLAIM THEY'RE SO DANGEROUS, THEY EVEN SUED THE CITY.
THEY'RE STILL THEY'RE STILL IN SUIT WITH THE CITY CLAIMING THEY'RE SO DANGEROUS.
BUT NOW THEY COME HERE AND SUDDENLY THEY'RE SAFE.
NOW, LET'S JUST GO THROUGH A LITTLE MORE.
RESIDENTS WILL POTENTIALLY DEAL WITH THESE ODORS BASED ON THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE FACILITY.
FAR'S PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE LOCATION OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN 1000 FEET OF THE FACILITY INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR EXPOSURE TO HAZARDOUS AIR EMISSIONS, FREQUENT ODOR COMPLAINTS AND NUISANCE NOISE ASSOCIATED WITH INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS.
AGAIN FAR IN 2019 TOOK THAT POSITION RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD.
THEY DID IT IN FRONT OF PNC AND THEY DID THE SAME STORY IN FRONT OF PNC.
NOW THEY'RE BACK IN THEIR SAFE.
IN FACT. IT WAS THE ATTORNEY FOR FARR THAT TOUTED THAT LAST TIME AND SHE'S BACK HERE AGAIN.
SO SHE'LL BE EXPLAIN TO YOU AND REBUT EVERYTHING I'M SAYING.
INTERESTING TO SEE THEIR POSITION.
SO LET'S MOVE ON TO EXHIBIT NUMBER TWO.
NOW, EXHIBIT NUMBER TWO IS A SAD ONE.
THIS IS THE INCIDENT REPORT FROM MAY 21ST, 2008.
AND IT BREAKS DOWN WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.
AND THAT'S WHEN ONE OF THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES, HURRELL BUCK BROWN, DIED.
AND I THINK IT'S PAGE FIVE THAT SORT OF GOES THROUGH AND BREAKS DOWN EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON THERE.
TALKING ABOUT THE EXPLOSION, TALKING ABOUT HOW HE WAS KILLED AT THEIR FACILITY.
EXHIBIT THREE IS A JANUARY 14TH, 2021 WARNING LETTER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION REGARDING THE FIRE AND EXPLOSION THAT OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020.
NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AND THIS IS WHEN I ASKED YOU TO REMEMBER THAT BUILDING NUMBER IS DISCUSSION OF UNCONTAINED SOIL PILE LOCATED NEAR BUILDING 15, WHICH IS THE ADDRESS 2650 ROWENA WHICH IS THE BASIS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY.
NOW THIS LETTER WARNS OF VIOLATIONS ON THE SITE AND IT GOES THROUGH AND TELLS EXACTLY WHAT WAS WRONG AND HOW THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE RIGHT.
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THAT'S EXHIBIT THREE.THIS IS ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAZARDOUS WASTE INSPECTION REPORT DATED JANUARY 15TH, 2021.
NOW THIS LETTER IS A FOLLOW UP TO A SITE INSPECTION FOLLOWING THE SEPTEMBER 8TH EXPLOSION.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ON PAGE ONE IS THAT ON SEPTEMBER 9TH AND 29TH OF 2020, IT WAS DEEMED THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
AND IT LISTS SEVERAL VIOLATIONS.
SO I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF EXHIBIT FOUR.
THE FACILITY WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE IN THAT AT THAT TIME.
FAILURE TO MARK ONE DRUM OF HAZARDOUS WASTE WASTE WITH AN ACCUMULATION START DATE.
FAILURE TO MARK ALL HAZARDOUS WASTE CONTAINERS WITH THE HAZARD OF THE CONTENTS.
FAILURE TO PROPERLY CONTAIN AND LABEL UNIVERSAL WASTE LAMPS AND BATTERIES.
AND FAILURE TO DEVELOP A QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE FOR THE CONTINGENCY PLAN.
NOW LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE TWO.
THE NEW VIOLATIONS, STORAGE OF HAZARDOUS WASTE AND LABELING HAZARDOUS WASTE.
NOW LOOK AT THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH.
FIVE OF THE SOIL PILES ARE STAGED ON THE BARE GROUND IN OPEN AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF BUILDING 12.
THIS IS THE BUILDING WITHOUT A ROOF LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ROWENA DRIVE.
NOW, AFTER THAT, THE SIX SOIL PILES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF BUILDING 15, THE NEWEST BUILDING IN USE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ROWENA DRIVE.
THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE.
THE SOIL PILES ARE NOT STORED IN EITHER CONTAINER OR A TANK AS REQUIRED BY 40 CFR TO SIX TO THE HAZARDOUS WASTE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED IN A CONTAINER AS REQUIRED BY 40 CFR TWO SIX TO LABELED HAZARDOUS WASTE AND MARKED WITH AN INDICATION OF THE HAZARD OF THE CONTENTS AS REQUIRED.
ALSO, THE SOIL HAS BEEN STORED ON SITE FOR GREATER THAN 90 DAYS IN VIOLATION OF THAT SAME CFR.
THEN IT GOES ON TO LIST A COUPLE MORE OF THEIR VIOLATIONS AND YOU CAN SEE SOME PICTURES AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE PICTURE THAT THEY LABELED SOIL PILE NUMBER ONE. IT'S NOT A GREAT PICTURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, DEP PUT IT THERE ANYWAY.
NOW EXHIBIT NUMBER FIVE IS INTERESTING, AS ALL MY EXHIBITS ARE, I THINK YOU CAN TELL.
SO THIS IS THE DEEP AND FAR CONSENT ORDER.
THE CONSENT ORDER WAS BASED UPON THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020 EXPLOSION AT FARR.
NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN THIS PAGE TWO, PARAGRAPH FIVE.
DURING AN INCIDENT ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020.
THAT'S SCARY. AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, INCLUDING THOSE LISTED IN EXHIBIT A, WERE RELEASED INTO THE AIR AND SOIL.
THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK IN A LITTLE BIT.
SO PLEASE REMEMBER IN SOIL NEAR THE SOUTH END OF THE FACILITY DUE TO AN EXPLOSION AND FIRE.
A THROUGH K LISTS ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE FOUND BY DEP.
H. THE FACILITY FAILED TO MARK SIX WASTE PILES WITH THE WORDS HAZARDOUS WASTE IE.
THE FACILITY FAILED TO MARK SIX WASTE PILES WITH THE INDICATION OF HAZARDS.
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J. THE FACILITY STORED HAZARDOUS WASTE FIREFIGHTING WATER AND HAZARDOUS WASTE CONTAMINATED SOIL FOR GREATER THAN 90 DAYS.THE FACILITY FAILED TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE FACILITY TO MINIMIZE THE POSSIBILITY OF A FIRE EXPLOSION OR RELEASE OF HAZARDOUS WASTE.
THAT'S KAY CLEARLY SAYING THEY FAILED TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THAT FACILITY.
NOW THIS IS DEEP AND FATHER'S CONSENT AGENDA OR SORRY, CONSENT ORDER.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK PAGE.
IT'S SIGNED BY THE RESPONDENT, JOSEPH BD.
THIS ONE'S HARD. THIS IS FROM YOUR.
I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT NUMBER THREE.
YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT STARTS OFF.
THIS IS FROM YOUR FIRE MARSHAL.
FIRE MARSHAL MIKE IRVINGTON FOUND PAPERWORK ON PRIOR INSPECTIONS FROM 2014, 2015, 2018, 2020.
IN ADDITION TO THE RECENT EXPLOSION FIRE INCIDENTS.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HE REFERENCED.
13 DAYS PRIOR TO THE FIRE, I HAD THEM REMOVE CHEMICALS FROM WHICH BUILDING BUILDING 1520 650 ROWENA AND DID A STOP WORK ORDER ON THAT BUILDING UNTIL THE CHEMICALS WERE REMOVED.
SO THEY WERE ILLEGALLY STORING CHEMICALS AT BUILDING NUMBER 15 AND IT TOOK THE FIRE MARSHAL TO GO THERE WITH A STOP WORK ORDER TO MAKE THEM REMOVE IT 13 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EXPLOSION.
THEY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE PLANT TO THE WEST IN NOVEMBER 2019.
AND WHAT ELSE DIDN'T THEY DO? THEY DID NOT APPLY FOR A BETA OR NOTIFY US THAT THEY WERE USING IT FOR CHEMICAL STORAGE AND THUS IT DID NOT HAVE ANY REQUIRED SAFEGUARDS FOR CHEMICAL STORAGE.
DO YOU SHIPPING CONTAINERS TO STORE EMPTY DRUMS AND DID NOT LIST THE STORAGE CONTAINER IN THE DECEMBER 2019 CONTINGENCY PLAN, WHICH STATES WHERE POTENTIAL FAILURE AND SPILLS COULD BE LOCATED? IN MAY OF 2008, THEY HAD A PIPE FAILURE THAT CAUSED THE DEATH OF A PLANT WORKER THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER.
EXHIBIT SEVEN IS FROM YOUR OWN PALM BAY FIRE RESCUE.
DEALING WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT ELECTRICAL BLOCKS OR BOXES PENETRATIONS.
BUT IT JUST GOES TO OTHER THINGS WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT.
THEY DIDN'T FAIL OR THEY WEREN'T IN COMPLIANCE.
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. AND THIS IS FROM FEBRUARY 27TH OF 2020.
THEN LET'S LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE, EXHIBIT EIGHT.
THIS IS FROM OCTOBER 6TH OF 2020.
HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, OUTDOOR STORAGE AND USE AREAS.
BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE SORRY I DIDN'T POINTED OUT ON EXHIBIT SEVEN, BUT LOOK AT THE ADDRESS 2650 ROWENA BUILDING 15 WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE.
SO AGAIN, ON THE TEN SIX 2020, AGAIN 2650 ROWENA DRIVE AND LOOK AT THE INSPECTORS COMMENTS.
MOVE ALL HAZARD MATERIALS STORED IN COMPLIANCE AND ALL REFERENCE CODES.
NON-FLAMMABLE CHEMICALS SHALL BE NOT CLOSER THAN 20 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
ALL RIGHT. NOW EXHIBIT NUMBER EIGHT.
EXHIBIT NUMBER NINE IS A JULY 29, 2022 GROUNDWATER MONITORING RESULTS.
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REMEMBER WHEN I ASKED YOU TO REMEMBER ABOUT THE SOIL, NOT JUST THE AIR.THIS IS WHERE THIS COMES INTO PLAY.
NOW, JULY IT WAS STATED JULY 29, 2022.
AND I GOT THIS OFF OF THE DEP WEBSITE, BUT IT WAS REVISED ON AUGUST 8TH, 2022.
NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ON THIS, LET'S LOOK AT PAGE TWO.
NUMBER THREE, GROUNDWATER MONITORING RESULTS.
FIRST OFF, IT SAYS THEY IDENTIFIED SEVERAL CHEMICALS.
I'M GOING TO STRUGGLE THROUGH THESE, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY.
ETHYL BENZENE TOTALS EILEEN'S AND MTBE WERE IDENTIFIED.
NOW THE SCARY PART IS WELL NUMBER M-W EIGHT ARE AND YOU CAN SEE IT SAYS THEY DETECTED TOTAL EILEEN'S ABOVE ITS GROUNDWATER CLEANUP TARGET LEVEL.
SO THAT MEANS IT WAS ABOVE THE ACCEPTABLE LEVEL THAT WATER OR SORRY THAT THAT WELL AND THIS IS IN THE REPORT IS AUGUST 2022.
NOW IN THE BACK OF THIS, I'VE ADDED SOME SOME EXAMPLES ARE NOT EXAMPLES.
IT'S DESCRIPTION OF THE ACTUAL CHEMICALS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND HOW DANGEROUS THEY ARE.
FOR EXAMPLE THIS THE EILEEN'S CAUSES ACUTE SHORT TERM INHALATION EXPOSURE IN HUMANS, IRRITATION OF THE EYES AND THROAT, GASTROINTESTINAL IRRITATION AND NEUROLOGICAL EFFECTS.
I MEAN, THIS IS ALL STUFF THAT WAS RELEASED AND IS SHOWN AND DETECTABLE IN THE SOIL SAMPLES.
SO MY LAST EXHIBIT, IT'S NOT MARKED AS AN EXHIBIT, BUT IT'S I PUT IT IN THERE IN THE PAST AND THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE ATTORNEY FOR FARR, WHO SENT A LETTER SAYING BASICALLY THAT EVERY EVERYTHING WE SAID ABOUT THEIR VIOLATIONS WAS BLATANTLY FALSE. WELL, DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
THE COMPLIANCE HISTORY FOR FA CHEMICAL.
I'M AN OLD M1A1 TINKER, SO MY HOURS AREN'T AS GOOD AS THEY USED TO BE.
NONCOMPLIANCE. SIGNIFICANT NONCOMPLIANCE.
WARNING LETTER. IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON FROM 1985.
RELY UPON WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING DID AND WHAT EVERYTHING THEY HEARD AND RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.
THAT'S WHO YOU PICKED TO BE ON P AND Z.
I URGE YOU TO GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.
YES. COUNCILMAN FOSTER HAS A QUESTION.
THE EXHIBIT TRYING TO FIND IT THAT FROM.
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THAT COURT THAT CONSENT IS THERE EXHIBIT NUMBER ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SO I CAN GIVE ME A SECOND SEVEN. THIS STILL IN EFFECT.
I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO READ ALL OF IT.
THAT'S THAT'S THEIR MOST RECENT.
SORRY, THAT'S YOUR MOST RECENT CONSENT ORDER.
THAT'S DATED JANUARY 29, 2021.
THAT'S THE ONE THEY ENTERED INTO.
THAT'S THE ONE THEY ENTERED INTO AS A RESULT OF THE EXPLOSION.
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SO. THEY NEED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THAT CONSENT.RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF IT.
YES, SIR. THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF IT ALSO.
AND IF THEY DON'T, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? THAT'S UP TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE DEP.
SIR. THAT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.
AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAS ENFORCED STATE CONSENT IN THE PAST, HAS THEY TAKEN ANY ACTION? OH, ABSOLUTELY. THEY CONSTANTLY TAKE ACTION.
I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THEIR WARNING LETTERS.
WE'VE SEEN THEIR INSPECTIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INTERESTING DOCUMENT.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD CONSENT ORDERS IN THE PAST.
THAT I FOUND. AND NOW I GOT THIS MOST RECENT ONE.
SO THEY NEED TO FOLLOW THIS CONSENT.
I'M NOT A LAWYER. I'M JUST ASKING YOU.
IT'S MY I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO FIRE THAT OR SORRY, THEY HAVE TO AGREE AND FOLLOW THAT CONSENT ORDER.
THEY PAID A FINE, I BELIEVE IT WAS OVER $52,000 FINE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THAT CONSENT ORDER.
I'M SURE THE ATTORNEY FOR FARR COULD VERIFY THAT NUMBER IF ASKED.
HIS HIS MY MY POINT IS, YOU KNOW, I FOUND THREE ON YOUR EXHIBIT.
WHY WHY IS JUST KEEP COMING UP.
MAYBE THEY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THINK ABOUT AN EXCUSE.
THANK YOU, RICHARD. SO WE'RE ON A PUBLIC SPEAKER CALLS MARGARET HARTE, FOLLOWED BY CONNIE MCCLURE.
HUH? MY NAME IS MARGARET DEHART, AND I'VE BEEN UP HERE BEFORE.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO STATE THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD APPROVE BART CHEMICAL'S REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DUE TO THE HISTORY OF SAFETY VIOLATIONS AND INCIDENTS.
I BUILT MY HOME IN 2007 AND I NEVER HAD A CLUE THAT WE HAD A CHEMICAL PLANT.
RIGHT ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
I FIND THAT THE WHAT DO YOU CALL THE REZONING THAT WAS DONE, I BELIEVE, BACK IN 1968 THAT SET ASIDE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FOR THAT SECTION WHERE THE CONCRETE PLANT WAS.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL THAT THEY PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS.
AND THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
REGARDING BEING RIGHT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO REALLY PLEASE CONSIDER THAT IN THE LONG TERM EFFECTS IT COULD CAUSE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANI MCCLEARY, FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN.
LENIN AGAIN ONCE COUNCIL MEMBER.
MY NAME IS CONOR MCCLEARY, 2245 NORTH STREET.
I'VE BEEN IN MY HOUSE 26 YEARS IN NOVEMBER.
I HAD NO CLUE THAT FAR CHEMICAL WERE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE UNTIL 2020 SEPTEMBER EIGHT, 2020, WHEN THE BIG EXPLOSION HAPPENED.
THAT MORNING I GO ON MY BEDROOM.
WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED? AND I'M YELLING AT MY CHILDREN.
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WE AIN'T DOING NOTHING.GO OUTSIDE. YOU SEE THIS BIG PLUME OF SMOKE? PICTURES FALLING OFF THE WALL HOUSE SHAKING.
AND IT TOOK ME FOR ALMOST A MONTH TO BE ABLE TO LAY DOWN IN PEACE AT NIGHT, TO NOT FEAR, BECAUSE WITH THAT CHEMICAL PLANT, WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
WHO HAVE EFFECTS FROM THAT SMOKE THAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.
MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
REMEMBER, ROBERT CARNARVON AREA WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN THE CITY'S COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SECTOR.
SO ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE, WELL, ALL MY I HAD NO IDEA.
I PROMISE YOU, BILL BATTEN CAME UP HERE AND TOLD YOU THIS WAS HAPPENING WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING.
BUT HERE WE ARE NOW, REGARDLESS OF THAT.
SO THIS IS WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN.
ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE AREA FOR WHERE THIS IS AT.
IS THERE CONCERNS REGARDING THIS? YES. BUT REMEMBER, ANY PLACE THAT YOU'RE DESIGNATING FOR YOUR COMMERCIAL AND YOUR INDUSTRIAL AREA, YOU'RE GOING TO BE FACING CONCERNS JUST LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, ANYWHERE.
THEY CAN STILL CONTINUE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.
AND WE WANTED BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND THEY'RE DOING THAT RIGHT? THERE IS NO STOP ORDER ACTIVE ON THEM AT THIS POINT.
THEY ARE NOT IN VIOLATION AT THIS POINT.
THEY SPENT MONEY TRYING TO CORRECT THEIR DEFICIENCIES.
THEY DIDN'T JUST SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BLOW IT OVER.
WELL, THERE STILL BE MORE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE, POSSIBLY.
OKAY. WE DO NEED THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.
I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM, BUT THAT WAS IN THE SIXTIES WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
BUT SINCE THEN, THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS VOTED TO CHANGE THAT AREA INTO RESIDENTIAL.
THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYBODY'S FAULT.
VIOLATIONS. YES, BUT THE PLANNING AND LAYOUT OF THE CITY THAT CAME FROM HERE.
MADAM ATTORNEY, YOUR REBUTTAL.
BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS, YES, MR. MIRABELLA, PLEASE ESCORT HER.
I DON'T. I'M NOT SURE HOW SHE'S FEELING.
RIGHT, MAMA, HOW ARE YOU FEELING? YEAH, I THINK WE NEED A FIRST RESPONDER.
JIM. CAN WE GET HER SOME WATER OR SOMETHING?
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LET'S TAKE HER BACK HERE.IT'S A LITTLE FISHING CALL FOR RESCUE.
I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO. GENTLEMEN, I'M CALLING THIS MEAN BACK TO WATER.
IN LIEU OF THE MEDICAL EMERGENCY THAT CAUSED THE ATTORNEY OR ATTORNEY HAD TO EXCUSE HERSELF.
SHE'S BEING TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL.
WE'LL PICK IT UP AT THE REBUTTAL REBUTTAL STAGE.
BUT PROCEDURALLY, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IF WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS THE 17TH. 15.
TO THE 15TH TO ALLOW FA TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR REBUTTAL.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE CONTINUANCE WILL BE ONLY TO ALLOW THEM TO FINISH OFF.
WE WON'T RESTART THE HEARING, BUT THEY WILL CONTINUE TILL THE NEXT MEETING TO ALLOW YOU ALL TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL, WHETHER IT'S CERTAINLY WE HOPE IS BONIFAY IS ALL RIGHT IS ABLE TO CONTINUE OR IF NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PRESENT YOUR REBUTTAL.
I THINK PROCEDURALLY, I THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST.
WE'RE PUTTING OURSELVES IN THE BEST POSITION BECAUSE THEY DO NEED TO COMPLETE THEIR DUE PROCESS.
SO JUST THE REBUTTAL THE REBUTTAL STAGE OF THE PRESENTATION IS, IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE LISTENING TO THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION SO MOVED.
ALL IN FAVOR I AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY SO WE'LL DISCUSS THIS.
YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT WILL BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND OUR BEST WISHES TO THE ATTORNEY.
WE REALLY ARE CONCERNED OVER HER HEALTH.
SO PLEASE AT LEAST LET US KNOW HOW SHE'S DOING IN THE INTERIM.
THAT'S 92, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY REMOVING CERTAIN PROVISIONS RELATED TO ARCADE AMUSEMENT CENTERS WITHIN CC, COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND H.S.
HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONES, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES. PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKED MISS SHERMAN TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THE CASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO BRING DOWN THAT LECTERN.
THERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
AND OH, AND SO THE WAY THAT THIS IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IS THAT ARCADE AMUSEMENT CENTERS HAVE TO BE 100 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND, AND LOOKING AT THE CODE THAT IS MORE STRINGENT THAN A LOCAL BAR.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN ARCADE AMUSEMENT CENTER AND THE SEPARATION DISTANCE THAT IT HAS TO BE, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE MORE IN ALIGNMENT TO HAVE IT BE WITH THE REST OF THE CODE, WHICH IS TO REMOVE THE 100 FOOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT AND HAVE IT BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THIS IS FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.
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ARCADE AMUSEMENT CENTERS? YES, SIR. AND WHAT? WHAT ARCADE? AMUSEMENT CENTERS.OR IS THIS LIKE GAMBLING ARCADES? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH, LIKE, A DAVE AND BUSTER'S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS.
SO YOU GO IN AND AND THERE'S GAMES AND THEN YOU GET PRIZES FOR THE GAMES.
AND IT'S A POINT SYSTEM IS HOW I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THE POINTS ARE THEY EXCHANGE FOR CASH.
JUST PRIZES LIKE A CHUCKY CHEESE.
IS IT LIKE A CHUCKY CHEESE, REALLY, FOR ADULTS? THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND THESE ESTABLISHMENTS.
OKAY. MY CONCERN IS THE GAMBLING ASPECT TO IT.
UNDERSTOOD. THAT IS MY CONCERN.
OVER. ANY ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL.
IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE GO BACK. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THE CITY'S HISTORY DICTATED WHY THESE PROVISIONS WERE IMPLICATED TO BEGIN WITH.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SOME OF YOU MIGHT NOT.
GAMING PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND THAT'S WHY THESE WERE IMPLEMENTED.
AND THERE WAS A REASON FOR IT BECAUSE THERE WAS.
YOU SAY YOU THINK BARS ARE BAD, YOU WAIT TILL YOU START MESSING WITH SOMEBODY'S GAMING FUNCTIONS.
AND THERE WAS FIGHTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WAS FIGHTS IN THE PARKING LOT.
GUNS, GUNFIRE, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
THAT'S WHY WE IMPLEMENTED THIS.
THAT'S WHY THE CHANGE CAME TO BE.
NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, SOMEBODY IS COMING IN.
THEY CAN'T SEEM TO FIND A LOCATION, BUT THEY WANT TO HAVE GAMING THERE.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, I CAN'T FIND A LOCATION THAT'S THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
THEY AREN'T WILLING TO BUILD ONE THAT WILL MEET THE CRITERIA.
WELL, BILL BRATTON DOESN'T FORGET QUITE AS OFTEN AS YOU THINK HE DOES.
I REMEMBER WHAT BROUGHT US HERE.
I REMEMBER WHAT PUT US IN THIS POSITION.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY IT WAS ON THE BOOKS.
SO I DON'T MIND TELLING IT AND SAYING DO NOT REPEAT HISTORY.
BECAUSE THE ONE THINGS YOU REMEMBER IN HISTORY SEEM TO ALWAYS BE THE BAD THINGS.
BUT THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY MONEY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? WE STEP FORWARD. PHIL WEINBERG 466, SCANLON WROTE AND VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
THIS IS NOT THAT THAT IS ILLEGAL GAMBLING.
EXACTLY. NOTHING ELSE IN EXCHANGE OF OF OF OF PLAYING THE ANYTHING OF VALUE.
IT'S JUST AN AMUSEMENT ARCADE.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL OF ANYONE THAT SPOKE.
CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASKING FOR EMOTION.
MOST OF THE PROOF WORD IS 2022 DASH 92, FIRST READING.
SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
UH, DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, MAYOR. I HAPPEN TO HAVE OPERATED A BUSINESS CLOSE TO ONE OF THESE, AN ESTABLISHED LOCATION.
SO I DON'T SEE IT BEING AN INCREASE OR LIKE I BELIEVE IT WAS BEFORE MY TENURE.
I DO BELIEVE YOU, BILL, THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE, BUT I DON'T SEE THE ARCADES THAT I SEE NOW.
I DON'T SEE THAT. I THINK IT'S BEEN PROBABLY PROPERLY ADDRESSED AND IT WILL STAY THAT WAY.
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SO IN DOING SO, I DON'T I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH MOVING MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM.YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT PLACE.
AND IN MY OPENING UP THE DOOR TO GOING BACK TO THAT PLACE.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
I. AND MEDINA NI AND MEDINA FILIBERTO NI.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 170 CONSTRUCTION CODES AND REGULATIONS SUBCHAPTER.
BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS FOR FENCES ON CORNER LAWS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU. I'LL DEFER TO OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR FOR THIS ONE AS WELL.
SO THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
ANOTHER TEXTUAL AMENDMENT, LIKE WE SAID, WHERE YOU'RE COMING ACROSS THESE THINGS AND WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAR THEM UP AS THEY AS THEY COME ACROSS AND TRY AND MAKE PALM BAY THE BEST IT CAN BE. SO WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT HOMEOWNERS ON CORNER LOTS, THEY WANT TO PUT A FENCE IN THEIR YARD AND THEY THEY CAN'T. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE.
AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT AND THE WAY MOST LOTS HERE IN PALM BAY ARE IS THAT IT'S A NON.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP MS..
JUST IN THE REVIEW PROCESS, I HOPE YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO CAN FOR THE PUBLIC, IF YOU WERE TO DENY ONE OF THOSE PROCESSES, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE APPEAL PROCESS? SO IF THAT WAS DENIED, IT WOULD BE DEFERRED THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
3202 JACKSON AVENUE, JUST OFF A MOUNTAIN BAR AND A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOME.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR SO I COULD PARK MY BOAT IN THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE BEHIND MY FENCE.
AND I APPLIED FOR MY PERMIT AND I WAS DENIED BECAUSE I WAS WANTING TO PUT IT ON MY PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEY TOLD ME I NEEDED TO PUT IT 15 FEET IN, WHICH WOULD NOT ALLOW SPACE FOR MY BOAT.
AND ALL MY NEIGHBORS AROUND ME HAVE THE FENCE OF A.
SO I ASKED HER, WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HAVE THE FENCE? OH, THEY MUST NOT HAVE PULL THE PERMIT IS WHAT THE LADY TOLD ME.
SO I'M JUST ASKING THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE CONSIDER IF ANYTHING, DO IT A CASE BY CASE.
YOU KNOW, DON'T JUST DENY ME BECAUSE I'M.
I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
AND THANK YOU. I THINK WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE YOU APPLY FOR A VARIANCE, BUT.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SO DID YOU STAY HERE JUST TO TELL US THAT TODAY? WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.
GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOTION APPROVED WARRANT. IT'S 2022.
SPEAKING ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
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BUT NO, WE CAN'T.WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T SPEAK LIKE THAT.
OUR STAFF IS WILLING TO WORK, SIR.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A DENIAL HERE, LIKE, WE'LL READDRESS OR LOOK INTO ANYTHING.
SO. BUT I KNOW MISS ALEX OR JOAN OR MISS SUZANNE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU, SIR.
BUT WE'RE HERE TO WORK FOR YOU, NOT AGAINST YOU.
WE'RE HERE TO WORK FOR YOU. SO THAT'S ALL? THAT'S ALL. OUTSTANDING JOB, DEPUTY MAYOR.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND I'M SORRY YOU HAD TO WAIT SO LONG TO SHOW THEM ANYONE ELSE.
AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THIS IS THE FIRST READING WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.
THAT'S 90 FOR AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND MANY OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT EDI MODIFYING STANDARDS CONTAINED THEREIN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MADAM SHERMAN. IN KHMER, AGAIN, I'LL DEFER TO OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS.
AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IN THE PWD CODE WHERE IT REQUIRES COMMERCIAL, IT REQUIRES A MAXIMUM INSTEAD OF A MINIMUM. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT? GO AHEAD.
SEE THE LIGHT SYSTEMS COMING, GENTLEMEN.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE STAFF EFFORT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ITEM THAT WILL, AS YOU MENTION, MA'AM, ENHANCE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF OUR LARGER BODY, BE ABLE TO DO A LITTLE MORE.
LITTLE CONVENIENCE STORE WALKABILITY, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO STEP OUT.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT IDEA.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU ALL.
THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORT INTO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT ITEM.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, SIR? OK. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M GOING TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK COUNCILMAN FELIX TO MAKE THE MOTION A MOVE.
MY COUNCILMAN FELIX SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR. MAYOR? YES. JUST ONE DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU, SIR. GEE, I WISH I HAD THAT LIGHT.
OH, NO, NO. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD.
I DID NOTICE. I'M GOING TO PASS THIS THE FIRST READING, BECAUSE COUNCILMAN FELIX SAID IT CORRECTLY.
SO DURING THE SECOND READING, IF WE CAN PLEASE CLEAN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT TO SHOW ACTUALLY WHAT WAS ADDED BECAUSE THERE'S A STRIKETHROUGH OF A WHOLE PARAGRAPH AND THEN THE HIGHLIGHTED PART IS THE SAME EXACT PARAGRAPH.
[CONSENT AGENDA:]
DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, MAYOR.AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR.
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A CONSISTING OF FIVE PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HERE IN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFY, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE ARE AN ITEM NUMBER SIX.
[6. Resolution 2022-43, providing for the acceptance of real property conveyed to the City by Palm Bay Greens, LLC, located at the intersection of Babcock Street and Port Malabar Boulevard.]
RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 43, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BARBARA COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF REAL PROPERTY CONVEYED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO CONVEY TO THE CITY BY PALM BAY GREENS LLC, LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BABCOCK STREET AND PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD, FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPROVING SIGNAGE AND DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.GILBERT. DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN.
586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
FIRST, WHAT IS WHAT IS THE DIGITAL MACH-E'S PURPOSE? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE.
RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.
THAT'D BE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE LEAD PROGRAM.
BUT WHY DO WE NEED IT? SAVE THE BUCK.
AND PART OF THAT PLAN HAS BEEN TO LOOK AT LOCATIONS CITYWIDE WHERE THERE COULD BE THE POTENTIAL FOR NOT ONLY ADDITIONAL CITY SIGNAGE, BUT ALSO INFORMATIONAL MARQUEES. SO DIGITAL SIGNS THAT WE CAN RELATE COMMUNICATION TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE FOUND THAT THOSE ARE EFFECTIVE TOOLS.
THE CITY USED TO HAVE ONE ACTUALLY OUT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL MANY YEARS AGO.
WE FOUND THAT THOSE ARE EFFECTIVE TOOLS THAT CAN HELP TO COMMUNICATE IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY, BOTH DURING NORMAL TIMES, BUT ALSO DURING TIMES OF, UH, EMERGENCIES AND NATURAL DISASTERS.
I NEED A MOTION. BOTH TO IMPROVE RESOLUTION 2020 TO 43 SECOND.
A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. HI.
AND IN CASE ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
YOU KNOW I GOT YOU. BILL BRATTON, ITEM 13.
[13. Consideration of a grant agreement with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection's Coastal Partnership Initiative for improvements to Castaway Point Park.]
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.AS YOU KNOW, I'M A PERSON WHO CONSTANTLY PICKS ON THE MONEY WE SPEND AT PARKS AND REC.
THIS MEETS THE BILL BATTEN STANDARD OF GREEN SPACE CONSERVATION.
SO THIS IS ONE TIME WHERE I'M GOING TO SAY, OKAY, IT WAS A 5050 MATCH.
SO EVEN THOUGH THAT 50 THAT OTHER 50 COMES FROM MY FEDERAL TAX DOLLAR, WHICH STILL COMES FROM ME, IT'S IT'S BETTER THAN COMING OUT OF THE CITY, ALL OF IT OUT OF THE CITY BUDGET.
RIGHT. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE BY JUNE OF 2023, IT COULD BE ALMOST DOUBLED THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING RIGHT NOW, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.
MS.. SHERMAN. I THANK YOU, MAYOR.
WE ARE ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS A FIRST PHASE, BUT WE EXPECT THE BOOST FOR BOTH PHASES.
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SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS RELATED TO THE COASTAL PARTNERSHIP INITIATIVE'S GRANT PROGRAM FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO CASTAWAY POINT PARK.
SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER DEPUTY MAYOR.
ONLY THING I COULD SAY IS CLOTHES ON THAT PRICE RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, CLOTHES ON THEIR PRICE.
ANY NAMES? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:]
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DON PITTARD TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.HE GOT HUNGRY. SHE HAD SHE LEFT BECAUSE SHE GOT COLD AND HUNGRY.
OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON THINKING OF MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. PASSES UNANIMOUS.
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE NEW BUSINESS.
[NEW BUSINESS:]
MS.. LEFLER THANK YOU, MAYOR.IN SEPTEMBER 22ND, YOU SAID YES.
YOU JUST NEED A CONSENSUS, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT.
OKAY. YOU GOT THUMBS UP EVERYWHERE WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE NEW BUSINESS.
MS.. SHERMAN. YES, THANK YOU, MARY.
WE MADE AN AGENDA REVISION FOR TODAY TO ADD THIS ITEM TO THE AGENDA TO CONSIDER A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FINE, WHO IS PARTNERING AGAIN WITH FARM SHARE, A NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES FOOD, ESSENTIALLY GROCERY TYPE FOOD FOR FREE TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE THIS CO-SPONSORSHIP BEFORE YOU.
IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE CO-SPONSORSHIP POLICY IN TERMS OF PROVIDING A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND MEETING THE CO-SPONSORSHIP GOAL OF ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING OF SOME OR ALL RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS ALSO FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE EVENT REQUEST IS A SERIES OF THREE DAYS WHERE THEY WILL IN THE MORNING SET UP AND HAVE A TRUCK FULL OF FOOD THAT COMES THROUGH AND IT'S A DRIVE THRU TYPE OF SYSTEM SO FOLKS CAN GET IN LINE AND GET THIS THE FOOD FOR FREE AS LONG AS THE AND IT'S BASICALLY FIRST COME FIRST SERVED AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS STARTED DURING COVID TIMES AND HAS BEEN HELPFUL TO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THE EVENTS WILL ALL BE HELD AT THE FRED POPPI REGIONAL PARK.
THE CO SPONSORSHIP VALUE IS ESTIMATED TO BE $1,360.
IT DEPENDS ON AVAILABILITY AND WITH THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS A WORTHWHILE EVENT.
I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AND AND I'VE SEEN THIS DONE WITH, I THINK, CENTREPOINT AS WELL.
ONLY THEIR THEIR CAPACITY HASN'T BEEN AS GREAT TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, 500 VEHICLES.
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SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL NO MORE SOLDIERS COMMENTS.I'M HAPPY THAT THE LOCATION HAS CHANGED BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC AT THE PREVIOUS LOCATION WAS TERRIBLE.
ON PALM BAY ROAD, I WITNESSED IT PERSONALLY.
THE ONLY THING WITH THIS, LET'S MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE POLICY'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S IN PLACE IS BECAUSE OF THE DJ LACK AUDIT. AND THE DJ LIKE AUDIT WAS, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTERED BY REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FINE.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND AND I SUPPORT THIS, BUT THIS MAKES.
YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THIS OUT.
NOT THE DAY OF 4:00 AND HAVE US NOTIFIED WITH IT.
LET'S GET IT TO US EARLIER SO EVERYTHING CAN BE SUBMITTED AT A TIMELY FASHION.
BUT SIMILAR TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES OF IT, WE ALSO HAD COMMUNITY AND THE UNITY THAT CAME TO US A FEW DAYS BEFORE THAT HAD SOMETHING FOR COVERT TESTING THAT SAME TWO DAYS LATER.
YEAH. THAT'S YEAH. SO YEAH SO SO TO THAT.
BUT THERE, THERE ARE NEW THERE ARE NEW ESTABLISHMENT, THERE ARE NEW NEW ORGANIZATIONS.
SO THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE PROCESS.
SO TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE GOING FORWARD, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE'RE DOING IT THE PROPER CHANNEL BECAUSE OF THE JPS LIKE AUDIT.
SO SEE, I'M I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DEPUTY MAYOR AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE COULD BE ENHANCED.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.
HEY, WAIT A MINUTE. THERE'S SOMETHING THERE'S SOMETHING SKEWED HERE, BECAUSE LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS.
IF THE GOVERNOR COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I'VE GOT X AMOUNT OF.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE X AMOUNT OF PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE COULD FEED DIFFERENT FAMILIES DURING A CRISIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD TO WORK ON A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU FOLLOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE ALL MY WITH THIS I'M I'M EXCITED THAT THIS IS COMING.
AND AND QUITE FRANKLY YOU'RE RIGHT THE LOCATION I WANT TO THANK FRED POPPI BECAUSE I THINK HE'S WORKED HARD ON THIS IN LAST MINUTE AND HE WAS IN A CONFERENCE. BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IMPACT THE LIVES POTENTIALLY OF 500 FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME.
AND WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL FAMILIES GO THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME.
IT COULD BE REPRESENTATIVE A SENATOR THAT MAY WANT TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE CITY.
AND IF WE DON'T WE'RE NOT MEETING IN BETWEEN, THEN THERE'S NO POTENTIAL FOR US TO APPROVE IT.
RIGHT. SO THAT THAT PUTS US IN A IN A PRECARIOUS PLACE.
SO MAYBE WE COULD REVIEW THE OPPORTUNITY IF WE HAVE A POLICY, IS ALL I'M SAYING THAT MAYBE WE COULD REVIEW IT AND SAY IT'S AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT IS BRINGING EXTRA RESOURCES TO THE CITY.
MAYBE WE COULD LOOK HAVE THAT REVIEWED IN THE POLICY.
OKAY. AND TO THAT TO THAT TO THAT POINT.
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, NO, I NEED TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO SPEAK FOR.
GO AHEAD. MAYBE I AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS CORRECT.
WHAT WAS THE LANGUAGE? YEAH. DO YOU HAVE IT BY ANY CHANCE, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
YES, SIR. I HAVE THE POLICY WITH ME.
YOU WANT ME TO READ? IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE.
UM, I'LL. I'LL JUST READ THE DEFINITION SECTION.
IT SAYS A CO-SPONSORED EVENT IS DEFINED AS AN EVENT THAT IS EITHER SINGLE DAY OR MULTI DAY SERIES THAT IS PLANNED AND CONDUCTED BY AN OUTSIDE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF CITY STAFF, TIME EQUIPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES AND OR THE USE OF FACILITIES.
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SAYS CHARITY ORGANIZATION ONLY WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAID.WAS IT A TIMELINE? WAS IT 30 DAYS? YES, THE POLICY INDICATES.
LET ME GET TO THAT SECTION HERE.
TO ALLOW SUFFICIENT TIME FOR PROCESSING AND SCHEDULING FOR REGULAR SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IT DOES INCLUDE THAT THE CITY MANAGER CITY MANAGER SHALL HAVE DISCRETION BASED ON PUBLIC PURPOSE, COMMUNITY NEED OR BENEFIT TO DETERMINE IF A REQUEST SUBMITTED IN LESS THAN 30 DAYS CAN BE PROCESSED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK THAT KIND OF REFRESHED US MEMORIES.
30 DAYS, GREAT PUBLIC PURPOSE, GOOD VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT CASE CAN BE MADE TO ANY ENTITY THAT CAME BEFORE US BRINGING SOMETHING OF VALUE, WHETHER IT'S TANGIBLE OR INTANGIBLE SERVICES, COVID TESTING OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THE FACT THAT THERE'S A.
CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE THAT DECISION LESS THAN 30 DAYS, WHICH IS FINE.
BUT HAVING GIVING PRIORITY TO A GOVERNMENT ENTITY VERSUS OUR LOCAL CHURCH, THAT BRINGING SOME SORT OF SERVICE OR SOME SORT OF VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK SHOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT INITIATIVE.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE.
YEAH. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO AND THEN COUNCILMAN.
MAYOR, I THINK YOU MADE A VALID POINT.
I MIGHT SAY THE GOVERNOR IS COMING INTO TOWN AND HE ONLY HAS A FEW DAYS HERE.
HE CAN GIVE THE CITY MANAGER AND COLLINS TO HELP.
I'D BE AFRAID. PROBABLY PARK A COUPLE OF DAYS, PASS OUT TURKEYS IF I WANT TO.
SO I CAN SEE WHERE YOUR IS COMING FROM.
OR THE CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE AN EXECUTIVE DECISION TO HAVE THAT PROGRAM OR NOT AND THEN PROMOTE IT TO TO THE CITIZENS THE CITIZENS HERE JUST GOING ON TO THE EVENT ITSELF.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME EVENT.
I THINK IT GOES BACK AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, VERY POPULAR EVENT.
AND I FEEL IT'S KIND HEARTED OF REPRESENTATIVE FINE TO CARRY ON WITH THIS EVENT AS MUCH AS HE DOES.
SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE BIG FRED, FRED, POPPY PARK, A BUNCH OF ACREAGE OUT THERE FOR THAT.
AND THANK YOU, FRED, MR. POPPY, FOR ALLOWING REPRESENTATIVE FINE TO GO OUT THERE AND HAVE THIS EVENT.
AM I CORRECT? AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH AND THE CITY MANAGER CAME UP WITH A POLICY.
SETTINGS. SETTINGS? WELL, NO POLICY IS SET IN STONE, BUT WE HAVE A POLICY.
WE NEED TO ADHERE TO OUR POLICY.
AND THAT'S I DON'T CARE IF THE GOVERNOR I DON'T CARE IF HE'S THE PRESIDENT.
I DON'T CARE WHO WE NEED TO HEAR TO OUR POLICY BECAUSE AS OF NOW, WHAT WAS THE COST? MADAM SHERMAN IT WAS 1000, $1,360 ESTIMATED.
HOW MUCH? RANDY FINE OF FARM SHARE IS CONTRIBUTING TO OUR COST.
WELL, THERE'S NO IT'S THEIR EVENT.
THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME.
AND FARM SHARE IS THE NONPROFIT.
THEY'RE DONATING THESE GROCERIES TO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER RESOURCES OFFHAND.
WELL, MY POINT IS, I MEAN, THEY COULD DO IT IN MELBOURNE.
THEY COULD DO IT IN WEST MELBOURNE.
THEY COULD DO IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS OFFICE LIKE HE DONE BEFORE.
BUT IS A GOOD FOR A GOOD CAUSE.
OKAY. SO I'M SPEAKING OUT BOTH SIDES OF MY MOUTH HERE.
BUT THE POINT IS, WE'VE GOT TO ADHERE TO OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND THIS.
AND IF WE DON'T, THE NEXT PERSON COULD COME AND SAY, I WANT TO DO MINES TOMORROW.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
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IF THIS WAS A VIOLATION OF OUR POLICY, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO STICK TO THAT.BUT. ACCORDING TO THE CITY MANAGER, THEY MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
PART OF THE OVERALL APPLICATION PROCESS, BECAUSE THIS CAME IN LAST MINUTE, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE PARTS AND PIECES THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY RECEIVE FOR A CO-SPONSORSHIP APPLICATION.
SO WHILE I HAVE THEIR COVER LETTER REQUESTS AND THEY DID FILL OUT THE SPECIAL EVENTS APPLICATION, THERE'S SOME OTHER COMPONENTS THAT ARE PART OF OUR POLICY THAT I DON'T HAVE YET, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH COMMUNITY IMMUNITY EVENTS.
AND THEN AFTER THE FACT, STAFF WORKED ON GATHERING THE REMAINING PIECES.
BUT WE DID OUR INITIAL EVALUATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE GROUP.
IT MET ALL THE OTHER CRITERIA FOR BEING A GOOD EVENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GET THE REST OF THE INFORMATION? I CAN'T SAY THAT WITH ANY CERTAINTY, BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL WORK TOWARDS IT.
WE WOULD ALSO ASK THEM TO PROVIDE US WITH A, UM.
A BUDGET. SO. SO SIMILAR TO A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE OVERALL CONTRIBUTION THAT THEY RE MAKING TOWARD THE EVENT IN TERMS OF VALUE OF VOLUNTEER HOURS AND VALUE OF THE FOOD THAT THEY'LL BE BRINGING, TRANSPORTATION COSTS FOR IT, ETC.? JUST BECAUSE WE LIKE TO HAVE THAT VIEW OF THE THE PARTNERSHIP, RIGHT? IT'S THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTING $1,360, BUT THE OTHER ENTITY IS PROVIDING A BENEFIT THAT'S 20, 30, $40,000 WORTH OF VALUE.
WE LIKE TO SHOW THAT IT WAS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY TO DO THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP.
DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE? I USUALLY WHEN WE DO THE SPECIAL EVENTS APPLICATION PROCESS AND THIS WOULD BE MORE A QUESTION FOR FRED PERHAPS, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF TYPES OF EVENTS, WE WOULD REVIEW INSURANCE. IN THIS CASE, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE SETTING UP ON OUR INTERNAL ROADWAYS IN THE REGIONAL PARK.
BUT I WOULD DEFER TO FRED IF HE WOULD REQUIRE THAT IN THIS CASE.
NO, NOT FOR THIS TYPE OF EVENT.
DON'T KNOW OUR POLICIES IN A PROCEDURE, SO I DON'T EXPECT HIM TO TO KNOW THAT.
BUT I EXPECT STAFF TO ONCE WE GET A REQUEST TO INFORM THEM, NOT JUST A REPRESENTATIVE, BUT ANYONE, WHAT OUR POLICY AND OUR METHODS THAT THEY NEED TO MEET.
AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO STICK TO OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES BECAUSE ONCE WE OPEN IT UP AND JUST LIKE THE I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COME AND I WON'T APPROVE IT IF THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE.
THANK YOU. HAPPY? MAY YEAH, BECAUSE TO THAT POINT, LIKE COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SAID, THIS THIS EVENT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED EARLY OR NOT THE DAY OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE BENEFIT THAT IT BRINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY I'M ALL IN SUPPORT OF, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO EVEN FURTHER LIKE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY FARM SHARE, FOOD DISTRIBUTION THAT'S DOING IT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO FURTHER AND HAVE DIRECT STAFF TO PARTNER WITH FARM SHARE IN THE FUTURE, NOT JUST DURING ELECTION CYCLES, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WHENEVER WE CAN TO HOST THESE EVENTS.
SO IT'S ESSENTIAL SINCE IT'S NOT SUCH A HASSLE WITH MR. PAPI AND WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS WELL, TOO.
SO AND NOT JUST DURING THESE MONTHS.
OKAY. I GUESS LET ME WRAP IT UP, BECAUSE APPARENTLY I MIGHT HAVE MUDDIED THE WATERS.
QUITE FRANKLY, I ABSTAINED FROM VOTING ON WITH THIS POLICY WHEN IT CAME TO THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, OF WHICH I'VE BEEN A PART OF FOR 14 YEARS.
AND SO I'M AWARE OF THIS POLICY AND THE VALUE OF WHAT THE EXTRAVAGANZA BRINGS.
SO I'M QUITE AWARE OF THAT POLICY.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE VOTING ON THAT.
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DO IT TODAY, BUT WE COULD USE SOME REVIEW IN CASE SOMETHING LIKE THE GOVERNOR WOULD COME AND WANT A PARTNER.THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I MENTIONED THE GENTLEMAN.
APPARENTLY, I MUDDIED THE WATERS WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP, BUT I STILL STAND BY IT TO TO IMAGINE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OF A HIGH RANKING STATUS, TO SAY, HEY, I GOT ALL THESE TURKEYS.
I LOVE THE WAY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SAID, WELL, WAIT, WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU.
BUT BUT WE CAN'T. WE GOT TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL.
I THINK THAT MIGHT NEED SOME REVIEW IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT'S ALL I MEANT BY THAT.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO THROW ANY ANY MUD ON THIS ON THIS PROCESS, BUT THAT HASN'T.
MAY I NEED A MOTION? MOST WOULD APPROVE THE CITY'S CO-SPONSORSHIP WITH THE INTENT FOR STAFF TO ALSO LOOK INTO PARTNERING WITH FARESHARE.
SO I CAN. AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING TO MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
I. BUT ANY NAYS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE HONOR COUNCIL REPORTS MR. FILIBERTO. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[COUNCIL REPORTS:]
ALL RIGHT SO JUST WANT TO START OFF.I WAS OUT THERE MONDAY AND UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS SCRUBBED.
SO I'M I'M REALLY HOPING FOR IT TO HAPPEN ON SATURDAY.
JUMPING INTO ACCOLADES REAL QUICK, I HAVE TO GIVE ACCOLADES TO THE IT DEPARTMENT HERE.
MR.. MR.. ROBINSON IN FRONT OF ME, HE MANAGED TO GET EVERY EMPLOYEE AND I THINK EVERY COUNCILMAN TO DO A SECURITY AWARENESS TRAINING ON THEIR LAPTOP. SO IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES WORTH OF TRAINING.
SO THAT'S MY ACCOLADES FOR THIS WEEK.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX HEARD AROUND TIME.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YES, I'D LIKE TO.
WISH. A VERY HAPPY LABOR DAY COMING UP.
ESPECIALLY ME BEING FROM BROOKLYN.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY WORKERS ENJOY THEIR TIME OFF AND.
YES. AND THAT'S A VERY SPECIAL DAY.
I WASN'T IN NEW YORK CITY, THANK GOD.
BUT MY MY BROTHER WAS NOT TOO FAR FROM THE TWIN TOWERS.
AND I WAS CONCERNED AND MY FRIENDS AND THE NYPD AND THE MARSHAL OFFICE, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT SUFFERED FROM SEPTEMBER 11 BECAUSE THEY WAS TRYING TO RESCUE PEOPLE DURING THAT DISASTER.
THE VICTIMS OF SEPTEMBER 11 AND I.
AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTERS AND MILITARY PERSONNEL.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.
SO I DO. AND THANK YOU FOR FOR SHARING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE CITY PALM BAY IS GOING TO ACTUALLY DO AN EVENT.
SEPTEMBER 11TH, SUNDAY, 12:00 COUNCIL.
I HOPE I SEE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE.
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WILL BE THERE.
WE'VE GOT A YOUNG LADY THAT'S GOING TO SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.
AND I PROMISE YOU, SHE'S REALLY OUTSTANDING.
YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT? ISAIAH. OH, MY GOSH.
SHE. SHE GAVE ME GOOSEBUMPS AND IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
AND SHE, A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, DEPUTY MAYOR OR A COLLEGE STUDENT? SHE SEEMED VERY YOUNG.
COLLEGE. AND BY THE WAY, I PROMISE YOU, SHE IS AWESOME.
AND WE HAVE A SPEAKER THAT IS A SURVIVOR FROM OUR FDNY RETIRED.
SO IT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO.
WE ARE CALLING IT PATRIOT DAY.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR REPORTS I LOCATIONS RIGHT HERE IN CITY HALL.
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AND SO NOW WE'RE ON ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS.[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:]
MADAM SHERMAN. YES.THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOU BRIEFING ON PATRIOT DAY.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE STARTED A FEW MONTHS AGO.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SIGNING UP, THERE IS A WEBSITE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY FILL OUT A FORM AND THEN PICK THE LOCATION YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US AT.
IT WOULD BE A GO TO OUR WEBSITE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG SLASH CLEANUP BLITZ AND YOU CAN SIGN UP.
SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE AND WELCOME EVERYONE TO JOIN US AGAIN FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH.
UM. I ALSO HAVE A QUICK REQUEST FOR COUNSEL.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AND THIS CAME FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DR.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE PARTNER WITH FLORIDA TECH QUITE REGULARLY.
SO CERTAINLY WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND WHO WHO IS HE EXACTLY? HE'S A PROFESSOR, DR.
I FORGET WHAT HIS EXPERTISE IS.
HE LEADS COMMITTEE, CORRECT? THE FIT? YES, THE BUSINESS.
SO WHAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED? YOU NEED A CONSENSUS? YES, SIR. SO WE CAN GET A LETTER FOR YOUR SIGNATURE.
WE LOOKED INTO IT. UH, MAYOR, I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND CRASH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T.
THAT WAY I CAN MAYBE MEET THE GUY FIRST.
YEAH, I THINK. I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND MEAN LIKE.
NO, NO, BUT HEAR ME OUT THOUGH.
SO APPARENTLY FIT THE WAY THE IMMIGRATION STATUS WORKS IS IF HE'S HERE ON A ON A VISA AND FIT IS SPONSORING HIM FOR HIS PERMANENT RESIDENCY.
AND IN THAT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HE'S ALREADY SPONSORED.
HE'S JUST LOOKING FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT HE'S AN ACTIVE PROFESSOR AND SEE I'M GO WITH THAT.
SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO JUST WAIT, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON THIS? IS IT TIME SENSITIVE? NOT THAT HE'S PROVIDED TO STAFF.
SO I'M GOOD WITH COUNSELOR, GOING TO MEET WITH THEM AND I'VE MET THEM.
I'VE MET THEM ON, ON AT LEAST TWO OCCASIONS AND QUITE PROFESSIONAL AND THE YOUTH REALLY RESPOND.
SO YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE YOU GUYS GO MEET THEM IF YOU WANT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO MEET THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
SOMEBODY THAT IS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY IS SERVED.
SO I WANT TO EMBRACE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
I'M ALL FOR THAT. I ONE'S GOT THE OPPORTUNITY, SO I'M GOOD.
UM. YEAH, I ONCE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP IN NEW YORK, IT'S A IT'S A FOREIGN LAND, BUT.
I'M GOOD IF IT'S SPONSORING HIM FOR CITIZENSHIP AND HE WANTS TO BE A US CITIZEN.
I'M ALL FOR THAT. HE'S THE SPONSORING, I THINK, FOR RESIDENCE.
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YEAH. PERMANENT RESIDENT.WELL, I'M STILL GOOD WITH THAT, SIR.
JUST WANTED TO GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
SO I COMMEND I ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO TO GO MEET HIM.
I THINK MISS JOHN BROWN HAS HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.
YES, MA'AM. ONE LAST ONE LAST ITEM.
DAILY BREAD HAS, AS PART OF THAT, SHARED THAT THEY HAVE A PARCEL OF LAND UNDER CONTRACT ON MALABAR ROAD IS NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WHEN STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THEIR PROPOSAL AND LOOKED AT THE CURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING FOR THAT PARCEL, IT IS CLEAR TO US THAT ANY APPLICATION OF OF FOR AN ACTUAL SITE PLAN AT THAT LOCATION WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
WE WOULD HAVE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.
THERE WOULD BE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS AND OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL MEETINGS TO DISCUSS ANY PROPOSAL LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THE CURRENT LAND USE AND ZONING DOES NOT MATCH UP WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF THAT PROPOSAL.
AND I WILL SAY AGAIN, THERE HAVE BEEN NO APPROVALS, NO EVEN MEETINGS TO CONSIDER ANY PROPOSAL FROM DAILY BREAD THE FIRST TIME WE WILL ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THOSE 14 PROPOSALS FOR THE ARPA.
DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH, I WAS WAITING.
SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
YEAH. OKAY, JOANIE, YOU WANT TO BRIEF? I HAD TO.
THEY THEY BRIEFLY SPOKE ABOUT IT BUT I HAD TO GO.
YEAH, I HAD TO. I HAD TO EXCUSE MYSELF MIDWAY THROUGH.
SO, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO COVER WHAT WAS DISCUSSED? I CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.
THIS WAS THE SECOND WHAT WE CALL THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE EVENT.
VERY WELL ATTENDED. WE HAVE WE HAD AN INTERESTING AND HELPFUL MIX OF DEVELOPERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, SOME FAMILIAR FACES FROM THE FIRST ROUNDTABLE, BUT ALSO SOME FOLKS TOTALLY NEW TO THE DISCUSSION.
SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO THIS, WHAT WE DID THIS TIME, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID LAST TIME, WAS WE PROVIDE SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
BUT THEN WE ASK THEM, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU? AND SO WE ALWAYS END UP WITH SOME VERY INTERESTING IDEAS AND CONCEPTS, SOME OF WHICH AS HAPPENED LAST TIME, RESULTED IN SOME ACTUAL ACTION STEPS WE TAKE TO MAKE THINGS, WHETHER IT'S TO STREAMLINE A PROCESS SO THAT DEVELOPMENT IS EASIER OR EVEN LOOKING AT ORDINANCES IN SOME CASES.
SO WE HAD THAT AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
AND PART OF WHAT WE DID WAS WE JUST KIND OF SHARED THAT REAL GLOBALLY THERE WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH CONVERSATION, WE DIDN'T HAVE QUITE AS MUCH TIME AS WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO DIG INTO THE WEEDS OF IT, BUT WE DID GIVE THEM SOME INITIAL EXPOSURE TO IT.
AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM WHO ARE INTERESTED AND FOLLOW UP WITH MS..
SCHREIBER, SO IT FELT LIKE IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME WHEN DISCUSSING THE MORATORIUM ISSUE, IS THAT CORRECT? WE CERTAINLY HAD SOME QUESTIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING FROM SOME OF THE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, ASKING ABOUT IT.
AND SO WE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL WHAT IT WOULD WHAT IT WOULD AFFECT AND WHAT IT WOULD NOT AFFECT.
AND I THINK THAT WAS A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
BILL BATTEN FOLLOWED BY ROBERT STICE.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST.[04:00:01]
I'VE GOT THREE ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS.THE FIRST ONE YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT GAYNOR ROAD MANY, MANY TIMES.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT GAIN OR ROAD ONE MORE TIME AND MAYBE REPEATEDLY AFTER THAT.
BUT THERE. SO THEY DID THE CITY PUT THE BERM UP.
AND THEY REMOVED THE BERM WHICH ALLOWED TRAFFIC TO COME IN.
WELL, ALONG WITH NOT ONLY REMOVING THE BERM, THE CITY DOESN'T EVEN OWN ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY ON GAINER ROAD, SO IT CREATED PROBLEMS FOR PAVING AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
SO NOW ANOTHER DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS, WELL, I WANT SOMETHING AT THE OTHER END OF GAINER.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND YOU CHANGE THE ZONING FOR IT.
AND NOW THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T.
THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG.
GAINER WELL, SO MUCH FOR THAT.
NOW, THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S BEEN PAVED.
NOW MORE TRAFFIC IS USING GAINER AS A COLLECTOR ROAD.
IT'S A MINOR ROAD AND THE TRAFFIC IS EVEN WORSE.
BUT THERE'S NO RIGHT OF WAY ON IT AND YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND CORNERS.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
PARKWAY CURRENTLY IS LOOKING ABOUT 20 YEARS OUT.
THAT MEANS EVEN IF WE START PUTTING SOME INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA, ALL OF THAT HAS TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TOWN OF PALM BAY IN ORDER TO REACH THESE AREAS WHERE YOU'RE DESIGNATING, BECAUSE YOU KEEP GIVING AWAY THE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL AREAS UP THIS RIGHT NEXT TO THE TO THE ROADS.
SO WHERE NOW DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL RIGHT AT THIS TIME? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE COMMERCIAL COME INTO? DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE COMPOUND LATER.
POSITIONAL AUTHORITY DOES NOT GIVE YOU MORE RIGHTS.
RIGHTS ARE GRANTED TO EVERYONE EQUALLY.
POSITIONAL AUTHORITY CAN GIVE YOU SOME BENEFITS AND ADDED.
AMENITIES, BUT IT DOES NOT GIVE YOU MORE RIGHTS.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE JUST BECAUSE HE'S A POLITICIAN.
HE TURNS IT INTO A POLITICAL GRANDSTAND.
FORGOT HIS PEN. I JUST HAVE A SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN TO THIS COMMUNITY INTO PALM BAY.
I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS MYSELF.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK INTO.
YOU HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO IT.
AND I'M LOST AS TO WHERE SOME AREAS ARE.
SO IF YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME BY FORCE AND SPEAK? YES, SIR. PHIL WEINBERG 466 SCANLON ROAD.
STILL, I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS OUT TO OUR PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT DIVE TEAM.
WE HAVE A MARINE HARVESTER THAT ACTUALLY LOST A PROPELLER IN THEIR C-1 CANAL.
THAT'S QUITE A VALUABLE PROPELLER.
AND THE DIVE TEAM AT THE TIME WAS ACTUALLY PRACTICING IN A POOL.
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SO IT SAVED US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY BY DOING THAT, AND I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM.SO THANKS TO THEM AGAIN, THANKS FOR SHARING THAT FEEL.
I ALREADY TALKED TO THE CHIEF ABOUT THAT EARLIER.
THAT'S GOOD. BUT AGAIN. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO DO IT PUBLICLY.
PHIL, THAT PROPELLER ITSELF COST ABOUT 1300 DOLLARS.
1300? YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH US GIVING THEM AN LOI, A LETTER OF APPRECIATION FROM THIS COUNCIL.
ALL RIGHT, CAN WE GET THAT DRAFTED UP AND PUT THEM IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEIR JACKETS IN THEIR PERSONNEL FILE? THANK YOU. THAT'S COOL.
AND WE'LL MENTION THE MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE TILMAN CONTROLLED DISTRICT.
THANK YOU, PHIL. THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S A GREAT STORY.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME SPEAK BEFORE WE ADJOURN? SO IN NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANKS FOR STAYING, PETER.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.