Sep 07, 2022 Council Meetings - Special

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OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

I'M GOING TO CALL THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2022.

THAT'S 25 TO ORDER.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU ALL RISE IN DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO THE FLAG UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC WHICH IS SAYING ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH! MRS. JONES ROLL CALL.

MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO HERE.

SHERMAN HERE. MR. MESSENGER, HERE.

[COMMENTARY BY STAFF:]

YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TO DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET.

I WILL START BY READING A PREPARED STATEMENT, AS WE DO EVERY YEAR, TO PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET.

AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANGELICA COLLINS, OUR BUDGET ADMINISTRATOR, TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS TENTATIVELY ADOPTED AN OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 7.5995 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2022, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023. THE TENTATIVE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 7.5995 EXCEEDS THE TRIM CURRENT YEAR AGGREGATE ROLLED BACK RATE OF 6.5887 BY 15.34%.

THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE BEING ABOVE THE 3% CAP IS CAUSED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE 3% CAP CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATING MILITARY.

INCREASE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE IS THE FOLLOWING DECLARATION OF CRITICAL NEED FUNDING TO EXCEED 3% CAP OPERATING MILITARY ANTICIPATED HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFIT ASSOCIATED EXPENDITURE INCREASES OF 7%.

1.7 MILLION IN HIGH PRIORITY FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS REQUIRING PAYMENT.

2.7 MILLION IN CAPITAL FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS AND STREET TRAFFIC, LIGHT MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT. 2.5 MILLION ENGAGE WHITE AND BLUE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND SALARY STUDY EXECUTION 1.1 MILLION IN PERSONNEL ADJUSTMENTS, INCLUDING FOUR ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND SIX ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AND ROAD MAINTENANCE FUNDING TO MEET A GOAL OF $1 MILLION.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS ALSO TENTATIVELY ADOPTED A DEBT MILLAGE RATE OF 1.0931 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2022, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.

THE TENTATIVE DEBT MILITARY SHALL GENERATE ESTIMATED REVENUES TOTALING $6,977,575, BASED ON THE GROSS TAXABLE VALUE CERTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.

THESE REVENUES ARE RESTRICTED AND ARE DESIGNATED FOR PAYMENT OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2019 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT TOTALING $3,527,750. AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2021 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT HOLDING $3,450,150, BOTH DUE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET YEAR.

ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS ARE INVITED TO ATTEND A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREASE TO BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2022, AT 6 P.M.

IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 120 MALABAR ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA 32907.

A FINAL DECISION ON A PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE MADE AT THAT HEARING.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

UH, NOW, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US, I COULD, UH, BRING ANGELICA UP TO PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANGELICA, WELCOME BACK.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS ANGELICA COLLINS.

I AM THE BUDGET ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY TONIGHT.

AS MS.. SHERMAN HAS INDICATED, AS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF TWO, THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE STATUTORY WISE BY THE STATE.

AND OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST, AT 6 P.M.

IN THE SAME LOCATION.

BEFORE I START WITH MY PRESENTATION, THIS IS USUALLY THE LAST CHANCE I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL.

SO I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR AGAIN, A GREAT YEAR.

WE'RE ALMOST TO THE FINAL HOMESTRETCH AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO HAVE REALLY IN THE LAST ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS, REALLY WORKED TIRELESSLY IN GETTING US TO THIS POINT.

SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK IN HELPING US GET TO THIS.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TOPICS OF REVIEW FOR THE EVENING.

WE'RE GOING TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT OUR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

IMPORTANT NUMBERS.

WE THROW A LOT OF NUMBERS OUT THERE, SO IT'S A BIT OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.

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WE'RE GOING TO DO CITYWIDE AND GENERAL FUND SPECIFIC.

THEN I WILL DIVE INTO THE GENERAL FUND TALKING ABOUT REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

THEN I'M GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A REVIEW OR PREVIEW OF OUR MASTER CIP PLAN THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER.

IT'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WILL COME TO YOU FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AT THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING AND IN YOUR PACKETS.

YOU'LL ALSO HAVE THE SUMMARY THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU AT THAT NEXT HEARING ON THE 21ST.

AND THEN THE LASTLY, WHAT I ALWAYS DO IS JUST GO OVER OUR LAST IMPORTANT DATES THAT WE HAVE UPCOMING IN ORDER TO FINISH OUT THIS PROCESS.

ALL RIGHT. OUR FISCAL YEAR 2023 IMPORTANT NUMBERS TO REMEMBER.

SO AGAIN, OUR AD WARM OPERATING MILITARY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS 7.5995.

THAT IS THE CURRENT YEAR FISCAL YEAR 20 2022 ADOPTED NUMBER AND THAT DOES EXCEED OUR 3% CAP RATE.

AS WE INDICATED IN THE STATEMENT, WE HAVE A DEBT MILITARY OF 1.0931.

THAT IS A DEBT SERVICE OR DEBT LOADED DEBT MILITARY THAT IS DEDICATED FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WHICH IS BOTH SERIES SO ITS 2019 AND 2021. WE IF WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE 7.59995 RATE AS PROPOSED, OUR TWO MONTH OPERATING REQUIRED MINIMUM FUND BALANCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS AT 16.7%, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $13.8 MILLION.

AND THEN IN OUR NEW FUND BOND FUND BALANCE POLICY, WE ALSO NOTATE THE STABILIZATION FUNDS WHERE WE ALWAYS GIVE COUNCIL AN OPTION OF A 2%, 2%, 3% OR A 4%.

SO I'VE GIVEN YOU THOSE NUMBERS.

LAST YEAR WE HAD INDICATED THAT BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PRETTY HEALTHY, THAT WE USUALLY MOVE AHEAD WITH A 4%.

BUT WE DO DO PROVIDE YOU WITH THOSE NUMBERS.

SO A 4%, WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.18 MILLION THAT WE SET ASIDE FOR EMERGENCY NEEDS AND THAT STABILIZATION FUND.

ALL RIGHT. SO USUALLY WHAT I DO IS I START OUT WITH A HIGH LEVEL CITYWIDE OVERVIEW OF ALL THE FUNDS, AND WE DO HAVE A PROPOSED WITH CHANGES SUMMARY BUDGET.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WAS PUBLISHED TO YOU ON JULY 28TH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES THAT WE ARE SEEKING NOW AND GOING INTO OUR ADOPTION PROCESS. SO I'M GOING TO REVIEW WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.

CITY WIDE OUR FISCAL YEAR 2023 PROPOSED WITH CHANGES BUDGET TOTALS ABOUT $282.8 MILLION AND THERE HAS BEEN A DECREASE OF ABOUT 5.7 MILLION OR ROUGHLY ABOUT 2% FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO I'M GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE LISTING NOW IS THE FIVE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE DONE A CHANGE FROM THE PROPOSED TO WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PRESENTING.

WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR TABLE IS THIS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PROPOSED NUMBER, THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES AND THE DIFFERENCE.

I USUALLY PROVIDE BOTH DOLLAR VALUE AND IN A PERCENTAGE VOLUME.

IN THE GENERAL FUND.

WE HAD NO BOTTOM LINE IMPACT, BUT THERE WERE SOME CHANGES OF MOVEMENT, MONEY MOVEMENTS THAT THAT WERE GOING AROUND.

AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT.

WE DID HAVE SOME CHANGES WITHIN THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS IN THE UTILITIES FUNDS, WHICH IS USUALLY OPERATING AND CAPITAL COMBINED AND IN THE STORM WATER UTILITY FUND.

SO THAT TOTALS ABOUT 5.7 IN A REDUCTION OR A 2%.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO INTO THOSE SO THAT YOU CAN GET AN IDEA.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THERE WAS REALLY NO CHANGE ON THE BOTTOM LINE.

SO WE'RE STILL MOVING INTO INTO THE FISCAL YEAR 23.

IF WE GO AHEAD WITH A PROPOSED OF 7.5995 WITH A 93.37 OR $93.4 MILLION.

SO THE GENERAL FUND.

WE HAD FOUR ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE MADE TO THE BUDGET AND ALL OF THOSE WERE ACCOUNTED FOR OR WERE FUNDED THROUGH A REDUCTION IN THE BUILDING SECURITY PROJECT.

SO WE DID HAVE A BUILDING SECURITY CITYWIDE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, THAT WE DID SET MONEY ASIDE.

AND WHAT WE DID IS INSTEAD OF USING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, WE WENT AHEAD AND REDUCED THAT PROJECT TEMPORARILY BECAUSE FACILITIES ARE STILL WORKING ON REVIEWING THOSE.

THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT.

SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING OF THAT WOULD BE.

SO THE FOUR MAJOR CHANGES THAT OCCURRED WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE PROPOSAL TO THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES IS WE HAD A RECLASSIFICATION OF THE ASSISTANT TO CITY

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SO THERE A SLIGHT INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE GRADE AND THE SALARY.

SO WHAT YOU'D HAVE IS, IS THAT INSTEAD OF THE CURRENT ASSISTANT TO CITY MANAGER POSITION, WE WOULD BE HAVING A SECOND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

WE HAD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR POSITION THAT WE ADDED.

SO THAT WOULD BE ALL PERSONNEL COSTS RELATED TO THAT POSITION.

IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE DECEMBER AND JANUARY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN THE CITY MANAGER CAME TO YOU WITH THE UNFUNDED REQUEST, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN HAVING A NEED TO HAVE A SECOND COMMUNITY INFORMATION COORDINATOR POSITION ADDED TO THAT STAFF.

THE THIRD ITEM IS THIS.

WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE DID HAVE AIR PACKS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM FUNDED, BUT WE ONLY WERE SOURCING 35.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND INCREASED INCREASED THAT TO 50.

AND THERE WAS ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT ON THE REGULATORS AND THAT WAS JUST A COST ESTIMATE.

SO THAT WAS AN IMPACT TO THAT.

AND THEN COUNTY DISPOSAL, WHICH IS A REQUIRED PAYMENT FOR OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, THEY HAD RECEIVED AN UPDATED QUOTE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

SO IT WAS A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT ON THAT.

SO ESSENTIALLY THERE WAS A NET IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE DID IS, IS THAT WE WENT AHEAD AND SOURCED THOSE DOLLARS FROM THE BUILDING SECURITY PROJECT, WHICH AT THE MOMENT, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, IS THIS WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE AND EXTENT TO THOSE COSTS ARE.

ONCE WE MOVE INTO FISCAL YEAR 23 AND WE KNOW MORE FROM OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT THOSE SECURITY COSTS WILL BE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS AT THAT TIME. HMM.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WERE IMPACTED.

SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE THE FOUR CATEGORIES UP ON THE TABLE IS THIS WITHIN OUR ROAD BOND FUND.

SO THIS IS THE ONE OF THE FUNDS THROUGH THE GENERAL OBLIGATION OR BOND THAT FUNDING WAS SOURCED IS WE ACTUALLY REMOVED A PROJECT WHICH IS THE UNIT 50 PAVING, WHICH IS ABOUT 2.8 MILLION BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY OPENED IT THIS YEAR.

SO THERE WAS A CHANGE.

THEY INITIALLY ADDED IT TO THE PROJECT, BUT THEY WENT AHEAD AND OPENED IT.

SO WE ACTUALLY REMOVED IT FROM NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WHATEVER IS NOT SPENT THIS YEAR WILL SIMPLY ROLL FORWARD TO THE NEXT YEAR.

WITHIN THE UTILITIES AND OPERATING FUND.

WE DID MAKE SOME REDUCTIONS AS WELL.

THE LIFT STATION FIVE RELOCATION WAS ACTUALLY MOVED TO THE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND.

SO YOU'LL WILL SEE THAT DIFFERENCE.

SO THAT $20,000 WAS SIMPLY SHIFTED.

IT WASN'T TAKEN OUT. IT WAS SHIFTED FROM ONE FUND TO ANOTHER.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD TO DO SOME BUDGET CORRECTIONS.

SO AS ESSENTIALLY WE DUPLICATED SOME PROJECTS IN MULTIPLE LINE ITEMS AND WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PAYROLL THAT WAS ACCIDENTALLY REMOVED.

SO WITH THE WORK OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND THEIR ACCOUNTANT, WE WENT AHEAD AND CORRECTED ALL THOSE ISSUES.

SO THERE'S JUST A NET IMPACT OF A DEFICIT OR A REDUCTION IN $1.1 MILLION.

THEN STORMWATER UTILITY IS SAME AS THE BOND REALLY WHERE THE UNIT 44 CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT WAS INITIALLY BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR.

THEY WENT AHEAD AND OPENED IT THIS YEAR.

SO WE WERE JUST TAKING IT, TOOK IT OUT OF THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

WHATEVER FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED AND NOT SPENT, THEY SIMPLY ROLL FORWARD TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET BY FUND ON A CITYWIDE LEVEL.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THE CITYWIDE BUDGET TOTAL, IF WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE AD VALOREM TAXATION RATE AS IS IS $282.8 MILLION. THIS DOES PROVIDE YOU WITH A LEVEL BREAKDOWN OF BI FUND OF HOW IT IS BUDGETED.

GENERAL FUND IS USUALLY OUR LARGEST AND MAIN OPERATING FUND.

SO THE GENERAL FUND, AS I MENTIONED, IS ABOUT $93.4 MILLION, WHICH OUT OF THE TOTAL CITY WIDE BUDGETS OF ALL FUNDS ACCOUNTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 33%.

UTILITY FUNDS IS USUALLY OUR SECOND LARGEST.

USUALLY WHAT I DO IS I TAKE THEIR OPERATING FUNDS AND ALL THEIR CAPITAL FUNDS AND ADD THEM TOGETHER.

SO THEIR UTILITY FUNDS COMBINED ALWAYS COMES IN AT THE SECOND HIGHEST, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 75 MILLION OR APPROXIMATELY 26.5%. SO AS I MENTIONED, THE GENERAL FUND IS USUALLY WHAT WE DIVE INTO KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR AD VALOREM TAXATION HAPPENS. BUT GENERAL FUND IS OUR MAIN AND OUR LARGEST OPERATING FUND IN THE MAJORITY OF THE DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE OF UTILITIES AND BUILDING EXCLUSIVELY EITHER ARE COMPLETELY FUNDED OR PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THEIR GENERAL FUND.

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IF WE MOVE AHEAD WITH A 7.9955995 AS PROPOSED, OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 IS APPROXIMATELY $93.4 MILLION.

AD VALOREM TAXATION OR PROPERTY TAXES IS USUALLY THE LARGEST PORTION OF THAT.

SO IF WE MOVE AHEAD, AS IS, IT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR ALMOST 50% OF THE ENTIRE GENERAL FUND AND TOTAL 46.5 MILLION.

SO THAT IS BASED ON CURRENTLY A AD VALOREM TAXATION RATE OF 7.5995.

THE REMAINDER OF THE CATEGORIES ARE REALLY JUST A COMBINATION OF OUR STATE SHARED REVENUES.

WE HAVE CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WE HAVE INCOMING TRANSFERS AND MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES.

JUST TO NOTE THAT FOR, SAY, AD REVENUES, WE STILL ARE GOING ON THE PROJECTIONS.

SOME THE MAJORITY OF THE STATE CHURCH REVENUES HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED AS MAJOR CHANGES.

AND WE USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE JUST ADJUST THOSE ON OUR FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

THEY SOMETIMES COME BACK SO LATE THAT THE CHANGES ARE JUST TOO CUMBERSOME TO DO, SO WE USUALLY ADDRESS THEM EARLY IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND BY EXPENDITURE TYPES.

SO AGAIN, OUR GENERAL FUND MOVING AHEAD AS IS IS $93.4 MILLION.

AND THIS WILL TELL YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY TYPE OF HOW WE ACCOUNT FOR THINGS.

SO THIS IS THE EXPENDITURE SIDE WHICH TELLS US PERSONNEL, SERVICE, OPERATING COSTS, CAPITAL TRANSFER AND FUND TRANSFERS AND OUR TRANSFER TO ROAD MAINTENANCE.

I ALWAYS BREAK THAT OUT SO WE'VE MOVE AHEAD AS IS OUR PERSONNEL COSTS ARE USUALLY THE LARGEST COMPONENT OF EXPENDITURES WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

THEY ACCOUNT FOR 62.3 MILLION OR ROUGHLY 67%.

SO THAT IS JUST PAYING PERSONNEL.

SO THAT IS SALARY, WAGES.

WE HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, WE HAVE WORKER'S COMPENSATION RATES, PART TIME WAGES OVER TIME, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSED IN THE PERSONNEL SERVICE COSTS.

AND OF THAT 66 OR 67%, I ALWAYS LIKE TO BREAK OUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION.

SO OUT OF THAT, 62.3 MILLION PUBLIC SAFETY ACCOUNTS FOR 69%.

SO IF YOU HAVE FIRE AND POLICE OUT OF THAT TOTAL AMOUNT ACCOUNTS FOR THE LARGEST WEAR.

POLICE IS ABOUT 41% AND FIRES ABOUT 28%.

SO AS YOU SEE THAT OUT OF THAT 62 MILLION, THE QUITE ALMOST THREE QUARTERS OF THAT, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT DOES GO TOWARDS YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS YOUR POLICE AND FIRE. WE HAVE OPERATING EXPENSES, WHICH WILL COME IN ABOUT 20.7 MILLION.

WE DO HAVE THAT CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT AS ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL ITEMS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FUND, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A GREAT NUMBER, LAST YEAR WHEN WE WENT INTO THIS PROCESS, WE ACTUALLY HAD A ZERO.

SO THIS IS A GREAT NUMBER TO SEE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FUND ABOUT TWO AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF CAPITAL NEEDS.

OUR MAINTENANCE TRANSFER WAS AT A MILLION, SO THAT'S BEEN INCREASED FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS FROM 750,000.

WE'RE NOW GOING UP TO A MILLION AND THEN WE HAVE OUR ENTERED INTO FUND OR INTO FUND TRANSFERS.

AND SO WHAT THOSE ARE ACCOUNT FOR IS, IS THAT ESSENTIALLY MONEY THAT GENERAL FUND PAYS FOR BUT IS TRANSFERRED OUT.

AND OUT OF THAT 6.8 MILLION, 6.4 MILLION IS ACTUALLY DEDICATED TOWARDS DEBT SERVICE.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS WE HAVE TO PAY OUR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS ON THOSE DEBT SERVICES THAT ARE DUE.

AND INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL FUND, THE GENERAL FUND PAYS FOR IT.

BUT FROM AN ACCOUNTING SIDE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO TRANSFER THOSE OUT TO THOSE PARTICULAR FUNDS AND THEN MAKE THE PAYMENTS THAT WAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT A LARGE AMOUNT OF YOUR INNER FUND TRANSFERS WILL ACCOUNT FOR YOUR DEBT SERVICE THAT HAS TO BE PAID.

THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT YOUR EXPENDITURES IN THE GENERAL FUND ON HOW WE GROUP THEM, SORT OF BUY A SERVICE.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT DEPARTMENTS DO.

A LOT OF THEM ARE INTER INTERDEPARTMENTAL SERVICE TYPE TYPE OF DEPARTMENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, FINANCE, PROCUREMENT, I.T ARE WE PROVIDE A SERVICE TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

SO THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF GROUP THEM.

AND OF THAT 93.4 MILLION, AS YOU SEE, THE LARGEST AMOUNT, WHICH IS PROBABLY ABOUT 50% OR 47 MILLION, WOULD BE YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, AS YOU'LL SEE THEM BROKEN DOWN BY DEPARTMENT.

AND AGAIN, YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY ACCOUNTS FOR THE LARGEST AMOUNT AS FAR AS THE EXPENDITURES ARE CONCERNED, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH MIMICS THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS ASKED A LOT.

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SO YOUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, THE TRANSFERS GOING OUT, THOSE ARE A GENERAL GOVERNMENT EXPENSE.

WE HAVE OUR LIABILITY AND PROPERTY INSURANCE.

SO THE GENERAL FUND THAT PAYS FOR LIABILITY AND PROPERTY INSURANCE, THAT IMPACTS ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT OPERATE IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S HOUSED.

WE GO AHEAD AND DO OUR FLEET OPERATING CHARGES.

SO HOW THAT WORKS IS THE FLEET FUND ESSENTIALLY SAYS YOU HAVE A BILL TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR ALL THE VEHICLES THAT ARE HOUSED IN THE GENERAL FUND.

POLICE IS OUR LARGEST EXPENSE IN THAT GROUP.

THE TRANSFER OF 1 MILLION TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND IS INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEN ALL THE DEBT SERVICE, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED.

SO GENERAL FUND, I MEAN, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND ISN'T REALLY A DEPARTMENT.

SO JUST DISCLOSING THAT, IT'S SIMPLY JUST ACCOUNTING FOR THOSE EXPENSES THAT ARE NOT SOURCE OR NOT ATTRIBUTED TO A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MASTER SIP.

WITHIN YOUR PACKETS, YOU DO HAVE A PREVIEW OF WHAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL AT THE NEXT HEARING ON THE 21ST.

SO THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR DOING THIS.

IT WAS A LOT OF WORK.

SO WE HAD KIND OF RECEIVED THIS TASK FROM THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND WE HAD DECIDED TO INCORPORATE IT INTO THE BUDGET PREPARATION PROCESS.

AND IT IT WAS AN UNDERTAKING.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF ANALYZING, A LOT OF WORK ON THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND AND I ALREADY THINK THE DEPARTMENT'S AT THE BEGINNING, BUT I DO HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL THANK YOU FOR THIS, BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT'S REALLY HAD SO MUCH WORK TO DO AS FAR AS GETTING ALL THEIR PROJECTS IN ORDER.

AND DOING A FIVE YEAR PLAN REALLY EXTENDED OUT FROM THE YEAR THAT THEY NORMALLY DO.

WAS WAS A LOT FOR SEVERAL OF THE DEPARTMENTS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND NEEDS ARE.

I THINK IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB AND THEY REALLY THE TURNAROUND TIME AND EVEN ATTENTION TO DETAIL WAS WAS IMMACULATE.

SO I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, A LITTLE BIT OF A PREVIEW OF WHAT YOU WILL SEE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT CAPITAL NEEDS ARE BEING REQUESTED OR BEING PLANNED FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO CITY WIDE, SO CITY WIDE.

THAT INCLUDES JUST LIKE WITH A BUDGET, WE'RE TALKING GENERAL FUND AND ALL OTHER FUNDS, ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OUR FIVE YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2027 CIP. SO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS $393.5 MILLION.

SO THAT OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES ALL DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING OUR BIG ITEMS LIKE UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS.

AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS IN YOUR CHARTS, AS YOU'LL SEE A CURRENT YEAR, WHICH IS YOUR 2022 AND PRIOR, AND THEN YOU SEE YOUR OUTGOING YEARS.

SO YOU WILL SEE TWO TOTAL COLUMNS SO THAT A TOTAL THAT INCLUDES THE CURRENT YEAR AND THEN YOUR OUTGOING YEAR.

SO A LOT OF THE DATA SOURCING IS DONE ON THE OUTGOING YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2022, THOSE ITEMS HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED AND THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED OR THEY'RE IN THAT HOPPER.

WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO 23, BUT FOR DISCLOSURE PURPOSES, WE ALWAYS DO DISCLOSE THE CURRENT YEAR AS WELL.

SO WE HAD TWO EIGHT DEPARTMENTS THAT PROVIDED AND WORK WITH US ON THEIR CAPITAL CIP.

AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND EXCLUSIVELY THE SO WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE GENERAL FUNDS.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, BUILDING AND UTILITIES ARE EXCLUSIVELY NOT IMPACTING THE GENERAL FUND AND PUBLIC WORKS DOES HAVE A COMBINATION.

WE'LL GO INTO DETAIL AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDS AND IN YOUR PACKETS AS WELL, YOU'LL HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF OF FUNDS THAT THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE IMPACTING.

SO WHAT YOU SEE IS REALLY ESSENTIALLY JUST A BREAKDOWN OF A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.

AND UTILITIES IS USUALLY OUR LARGEST.

THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

AND THEY, OF COURSE, HAVE A COMBINATION OF THEIR OPERATING FUND.

AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS.

SO UTILITIES WILL GENERALLY BE YOUR LARGEST.

SO LET'S GO A LITTLE BIT INTO DETAIL OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED.

SO ALL FUNDS ARE LISTED AGAIN IN THAT ORDER OF CURRENT YEAR PLUS FIVE YEARS GOING OUT AND THEN YOUR TOTALS AT THE END.

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WE HAVE, OF COURSE, OUR GENERAL FUND.

SO WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, OUR TOTAL 2023 THROUGH 2027 REQUESTED NEEDS FOR CAPITAL ASSET OUTLAY AND PROJECT REQUESTS TOTAL $96.4 MILLION, WHICH OF THE TOTAL CITY WIDE ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 24.5%.

SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING OF THE TOTAL 393.5 MILLION A QUARTER IS GENERAL FUND IMPACTING? AND REMEMBER, WHEN WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT AND WHEN I ALWAYS HIGHLIGHT THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES, THE GENERAL FUND, 50% OF THE REVENUE GENERATED IN THAT FUND IS THROUGH AD VALOREM TAXATION.

WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

ONCE WE KIND OF GO INTO INTO THE PLAN ITSELF AT THE NEXT MEETING AND EVERYTHING WILL BE POSTED ONLINE AS WELL, I'M GOING GOING WITH IT TO CREATE THAT.

SO ALL THE CITIZENS WILL ACTUALLY HAVE AN ACCESS TO ALL THE PROJECT FORMS AND ALL THE DETAILS.

SO IT'S REALLY NICE. WE HAVE FIVE FIRE STATION AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE POLICE SOUTHERN EXPANSION.

SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS AND POLICE STATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND THAT CURRENTLY HAVE NO OTHER FUNDING SOURCE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE THOSE ACTUAL REQUESTS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED AS THE YEARS GO OUT.

WE DO HAVE IMPACT FEES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR SOME OF THE FIRE STATIONS.

BUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS SPECIAL MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS, IMPACT FEES DON'T COVER ALL FIRES, FIRE STATIONS OR EVEN PARTIAL FUNDING.

BUT THERE ARE FIRE IMPACT FEES AND OTHER IMPACT FEES AS WELL FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE PLAN.

OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE PLANNING OUT NOW WHERE IN FISCAL YEAR 2024, THE PLAN IS TO BEGIN REJUVENATION.

SO THERE.

THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SEE THE $3 MILLION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PLANNED OUT.

AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING THOSE PROJECTS OUT NOW.

WE HAVE OUR GEO ROAD PROGRAM FUNDS, PROGRAM FUNDS, WHICH ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TWO BONDS AND THE PROJECTS GOING OUT.

THOSE HAVE ACTUALLY NOW BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

PREVIOUSLY WHAT WE WERE DOING IS WE WERE JUST CREATING THEM AND ACTUALLY ADDING THEM ON BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND WE'VE WORKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO ACTUALLY PLAN THEM OUT SO THAT THEY HAVE A PLAN AND WE GO AHEAD AND ACTUALLY PUT THEM IN THE CAPITAL PLAN RATHER THAN JUST ADDRESSING THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING NICE.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE UTILITIES THERE OPERATING AND CAPITAL FUNDS, WHICH IS USUALLY THE LARGEST PORTION, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

SO THEY ACCOUNT FOR ALMOST HALF, ABOUT 46% OF ALL THE CAPITAL NEEDS.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR STORM WATER UTILITY IS ANOTHER BIG ONE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING OUT THE PROJECTS AS WELL.

SO I WILL SAY BETWEEN ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING ON ON PLANNING THINGS OUT AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW THEY'RE STILL DOWN A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, SO WE'VE BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING WITH THEIR ACCOUNTING TEAM TO ACTUALLY GET THAT GET THAT PLAN OUT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW BY FUND ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT YOU WILL SEE COME FOR APPROVAL.

HMM. THEN WHAT I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING IS WE COULD ACTUALLY EVEN BREAK IT DOWN FURTHER, WHICH IS WE WILL LOOK AT THE CITY WIDE TYPES OF REQUESTS BECAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF CAPITAL ASSETS AND OUTLAY VERSUS PROJECTS.

SO CAPITAL ASSETS OUTLAY IS USUALLY YOUR VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT, WHICH FOR US IS ALWAYS A BIG ITEM BECAUSE WE TALK A LOT ABOUT VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.

SO THAT'S A GOOD DATA SOURCE THAT YOU CAN GO OF AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR PROJECTS.

SO OF COURSE PROJECTS, THE BIGGEST THING WE THINK OF IS CONSTRUCTION TYPE THINGS.

SO WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OF THAT 393.5 MILLION CITY WIDE.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN GENERAL FUND, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT CITYWIDE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 89%.

WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT THIS, I COULD TELL YOU UTILITIES IS A BIG PORTION OF THAT.

SO UTILITIES AND ALL THE FIRE STATIONS AND THE POLICE STATION, THOSE ARE PROJECTS.

SO THOSE ARE GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR CITYWIDE.

YOUR LARGEST LARGEST PORTION IS IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VERSUS CAPITAL ASSETS.

CITYWIDE PROJECTS IS ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST CAPITAL ITEM.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

WE KIND OF DID THREE CATEGORIES.

WE LOOKED AT HEALTH AND SAFETY, ASSET PRESERVATION AND REPLACEMENT OR SERVICE OR ASSET EXPANSION.

SO THIS IS ALSO A GREAT THING.

ONCE YOU GET TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT YOU'LL SEE WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING?

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ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CATEGORIZING IT AS A HEALTH AND SAFETY AND AS A MAYBE A REPLACEMENT.

SO THAT'S JUST SOME TRAINING I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO DO WITH THE DEPARTMENTS.

SO THIS IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT START.

SO AS YOU SEE CITY WIDE, ABOUT 57% IS ACTUALLY ON SERVICE ASSET EXPANSIONS, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, WE HAVE UTILITIES, WE HAVE NEW PROJECTS, WE HAVE FIRE STATIONS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY BECAUSE OF EXPANSION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT THE PLAN REFLECTS THAT THAT AMOUNT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND, IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THE GENERAL FUND 2023 THROUGH 2027, FIVE YEAR PLAN TOTALS ABOUT $96.4 MILLION, WHICH I CAN MENTION IS ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE TOTAL CITY WIDE REQUESTS.

SO GENERAL FUND ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT A QUARTER OF IT.

IT IS BROKEN DOWN BY DEPARTMENTS.

SO THESE ARE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT EITHER EXCLUSIVELY OR PARTIALLY OPERATE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT ALSO SUBMITS OTHER THINGS LIKE STORMWATER ROAD PROJECT, ROAD PROGRAM PROJECTS, ROAD REJUVENATION PROJECTS.

SO THESE ARE YOUR GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS.

AGAIN, PUBLIC SAFETY ACCOUNTS FOR 57.2% OR APPROXIMATELY 55 MILLION OF THAT TOTAL.

96.4. AND AS WE SEE FIRE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS.

SO POLICE IS ACTUALLY YOUR LARGEST AND THAT'S MORE THAN LIKELY BECAUSE OF THE POLICE SOUTHERN EXPANSION STATION THAT THAT'LL COME UP IN THE PLAN.

IT COMES IN 2027.

AND WE ARE HAPPY TO SAY, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, WE ARE ABLE TO PUT 2.5 MILLION OF CAPITAL INVESTMENTS INTO THE GENERAL FUND IF WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE RATE OF 7.5995.

SO OUT OF THAT 11.7 MILLION THAT WAS ACTUALLY REQUESTED FOR 2023, WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE TWO AND ONE HALF MILLION, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 21%.

SO IT DOESN'T FIX THE SITUATION, BUT IT IS IT IS A NICE CHANGE, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, TO GO FROM ZERO, WHICH WE HAD THIS YEAR IN THE ORIGINAL TO THE TWO AND A HALF MILLION.

I DID THE SAME THING, BROKE IT DOWN INTO THE TYPE.

SO AS YOU SEE, CAPITAL PROJECTS STILL ACCOUNTS FOR THE LARGEST PORTION OF ABOUT 72%.

SO CAPITAL PROJECTS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE THE FIRE STATIONS AND THE THE SERVICE EXPANSION FOR THE POLICE STATION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKS, PROJECTS, ROOF REPLACEMENTS, JUST REJUVENATION WITHIN THE PARKS TYPES OF FACILITIES, WHICH ARE ALL GENERAL FUND AS WELL.

WE HAVE I.T. PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED.

WE HAVE FIBER EXPANSION.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS INCORPORATED INTO THE ACTUAL PROJECTS.

THEN LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN OF BY TYPE.

AGAIN, WE DID HEALTH AND SAFETY, ASSET PRESERVATION AND REPLACEMENT AND THE SERVICE ACID EXPANSION.

SO THIS IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE CHANGE FROM THE CITYWIDE BECAUSE IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE ASSET PRESERVATION AND REPLACEMENT IS YOUR LARGEST.

SO THAT MIMICS AND TIES INTO THE TOPIC OF VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS.

SO A LOT OF IT IS CAPITAL OUTLAY.

SO IT'S A LOT OF POLICE VEHICLES, IT'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE VEHICLES, BUT THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT DOES HAVE TO BE REPLACED.

SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE CITYWIDE THAT IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE LARGEST IS ACTUALLY JUST REPLACING ASSETS AND PRESERVING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.

SO AGAIN, MY LAST SLIDE IS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT MY IMPORTANT UPCOMING DATES.

SO AFTER THIS EVENING, YOU WILL SEE ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, YOU WILL SEE THE BUDGET ADVERTISEMENT IN THE FLORIDA TODAY.

WE HAVE THE NOTICE OF TAX INCREASE AND BUDGET SUMMARY.

SO THAT WILL BE NOT THIS FRIDAY BUT NEXT FRIDAY.

SO I'VE ALREADY COORDINATED THAT.

AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, WILL BE WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST, AND IT STARTS AT 6 P.M.

AT THE SAME LOCATION AND THAT WILL WRAP UP MY BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.

AND THAT WRAPS UP TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MISS ANGELIC OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION AS ALWAYS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING, MA'AM, WHERE SHE SHE REALLY EMPHASIZED ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OUT, IT IS IT IS ABOUT PLANNING.

AND I'M EXCITED THAT THIS CITY IS ON TRACK.

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COUNCIL ANY COMMENTS OF ANGELICA? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION ON SLIDE 11.

JUST CURIOUS, YOU GO TO THAT.

LET'S SEE. MASTER CITYWIDE.

ZIP. RIGHT.

I. A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

I THINK THIS ONE IS IT, RIGHT? I CAN'T SEE THAT. YEAH.

HE LISTED APARTMENTS, RECREATION.

YOUR 2020 TO 0 IN YEAR 2023, 275,500, THEN THE REST OF THE YEAR'S GOING OUT AS ZERO ZERO.

WHY IS THAT? AND THAT JUST MEANS THAT THEY HAVE SO YEAR 2022.

WE DO REMEMBER THAT PARKS THAT RECREATION WAS IN FISCAL YEAR 21, 22.

WE SPLIT THEM.

SO YOU WILL SEE THEY USED TO BE PARKS AND RECREATION AND THEN IT WAS SPLIT INTO RECREATION.

ONLY IN PARKS WAS MOVED UNDER FACILITIES.

SO THERE'S PROBABLY THAT TRANSITION GOING ON TO STILL THIS REFLECT THAT THIS YEAR.

AND THAT JUST SIMPLY MEANS THAT THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANY LONG TERM PLANS TO DO ANY REPLACEMENTS.

SO I WOULD I WOULD THINK THAT A LOT OF THE PARKS RELATED TYPE OF ITEMS, WHICH IS LIKE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, ROOF REPLACEMENTS, PARK FACILITY TYPES OF ITEMS ARE ACTUALLY UNDER PARKS AND FACILITIES NOW.

RECREATION, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING YOU WOULD SEE IS VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, WHICH IS CAPITAL ASSET.

SO THAT IS SIMPLY JUST WHAT THEY HAD SUBMITTED.

SO I KNOW THAT THEY HAD SOME STAFFING CHANGES GOING ON.

SO WE HAVE A NEW MANAGEMENT ANALYST WHO'S IN THAT DEPARTMENT NOW.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WITHIN THE NEXT GO AROUND FOR DOING THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN, YOU'LL HOPEFULLY SEE SOME FUTURE, FUTURE ITEMS. I'M THINKING LIKE IN THE FUTURE, A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER THAT FALLS ON THE FACILITY WAS LIKE THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE PARKS SECTION OF PARKS AND FACILITIES. SO RECREATION, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THEY REALLY ONLY AT THIS POINT PROVIDE RECREATION SERVICES.

SO ANY TYPE OF FACILITY WITHIN THAT RECREATION USES WOULD BE UNDER PARKS AND FACILITIES.

SO YOU PROBABLY SEE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT ELSE? THANK YOU, MA'AM. OH, YES.

SO I DO HAVE.

SO IN YOUR PACKET, WHAT YOU DO HAVE IS, AGAIN, I HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH A MASTER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT I ALSO ALREADY UPDATED OUR BUDGET BRIEF.

SO I THINK I HAVE IT ACTUALLY ON THE USB DRIVE IF WE WANT TO PULL IT UP.

TOP PART OF MY OFFICIAL PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S SORT OF A PREVIEW.

HOPEFULLY IT'LL COME UP, BUT.

YEAH. SO LAST YEAR WHAT WE STARTED DOING IS PUT IT IN BRIEF, MR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WAS ONE THAT HAD KIND OF BROUGHT IT UP.

SO I KIND OF REDESIGNED IT A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

I WANT IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FUN, I GUESS JUST ME.

SO IT STILL PROVIDES US WITH THE SAME INFORMATION AND IT TALKS ABOUT OUR CITYWIDE ALL FUNDS BUDGET SUMMARY.

AND THEN ON THE SECOND PAGE IT PROVIDES YOU WITH THE GENERAL FUNDS SPECIFIC.

SO AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED IS THE SAME AS WE HAVE THIS YEAR, AGAIN, I KIND OF JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT MORE FUN, BUT SO BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY EARLY AND WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE 7.5995 YET, IT IS A DRAFT.

I CAN'T OFFICIALLY PUBLISH IT BECAUSE THE DATA MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT WOULD BE.

AND AGAIN, IT JUST PROVIDES CITIZENS AND ANYONE WHO WAS WISHING TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE AND TO COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR CITYWIDE FUNDS AND OUR GENERAL FUND LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE TALK ABOUT OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

WE TALK ABOUT OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, WE TALK ABOUT OUR GEO ROAD PROGRAM FUND, OUR BONDS OF HOW MANY MILES WE'VE PAVED THUS FAR.

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IT ALWAYS COMES WITH A QR CODE AT THE TOP WHERE ANYONE CAN SCAN IT.

YOU CAN GO DIRECTLY TO OUR WEBSITE IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE.

NOW, THIS INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN PUBLISHED.

I CAN'T OFFICIALLY DO THAT UNTIL AFTER THE NEXT MEETING.

AND THE WEBSITE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS YEAR A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A SEPARATE TAB JUST FOR THAT.

SO YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO ACCESS ALL THE WORKSHEETS FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED SO IT WON'T BE PUBLISHED IN YOUR APPROVED BUDGET DOCUMENT UNLESS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A 500 PAGE DOCUMENT.

IT'S ALL GOING TO BE PUBLISHED ONLINE.

SO WE ARE KIND OF GOING TOWARDS MORE OF A ELECTRONIC PAPER SAVING FRIENDLY TYPE OF DEPARTMENT.

BUT SO THIS IS JUST A PREVIEW OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE.

SO DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE AT THE NEXT BUDGET HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUBLISH THIS IN ADDITION TO THE DOLLAR.

SO I KNOW THE DOLLAR IS ONE OF THOSE FAVORITE THINGS, SO THAT HASN'T CHANGED VERY MUCH, BUT THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED AS WELL.

IT'S JUST AN UPDATED BASED ON THE NEW FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET.

NOW FROM ENFORCER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS FLIER IS.

THIS PART. DO YOU KNOW YOUR TAX BILL BREAKDOWN IS THAT IS THESE PERCENTAGE BASED ON THIS BUDGET OR IS BASED ON LAST YEAR? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY BASED ON A TAX BILL.

SO WE HAVE NOT UPDATED THAT YET.

BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THE SAME.

SO YEAH, SO WE'RE AS WE GO INTO THE INTO THE NEW YEAR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE ANY CHANGES.

BUT SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY BASED ON A STANDARD TAX BILL THAT SOMEONE WERE TO SEE COME IN.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND UPDATE IT ONCE THE ONCE WE HAVE TAX BILLS COMING IN AND I'LL BE ABLE TO DO A FINAL REVISION.

SO. BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS 44% OF OUR COUNTY IS 17%.

AND CITY OF PALM BAY IS 36% AND 3% SPECIAL DISTRICT.

BREVARD COUNTY IS PROPOSING THE INCREASE IN TAXES.

SO WE DON'T KNOW.

IT COULD BE HIGHER THAN THAT 17% AND IT COULD BE EVERYBODY IS GOING THROUGH THEIR APPROVALS NOW.

SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO TO GUESSTIMATE.

SO. WITH ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, WE CAN'T KIND OF SAY THIS IS ABOUT HOW MUCH IT'LL BE.

SO THIS IS STILL THE ONE FROM THIS YEAR.

BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE FINAL FINAL RATES THAT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE GOING FOR PROPOSAL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE CHANGES MORE LIKELY TO SEE WHO'S GOING TO GO UP AND KIND OF GO UP. YEAH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

[PUBLIC HEARING:]

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, SO, FIRST OF ALL, I WILL ACTUALLY ECHO WHAT ANGELICA SAID, AND I'D LIKE TO START BY THANKING EVERYONE WHO IS INVOLVED IN GETTING US TO THIS POINT TONIGHT. THE FINANCE TEAM PROVIDES THE LEADERSHIP WITH ANGELICA, LARRY AND MIRIAM AS THE LEADS ON EVERYTHING THAT IS BUDGET RELATED.

AND I APPRECIATE THEM.

AND I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT WORKING TIRELESSLY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.

ANGELICA IS NOT BEING.

SHE'S NOT UNDER EXPLAINING IT OR LISTENING WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF WORKING ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, WHEN WE HAD REALLY NONE TO SPEAK OF AND EVERYONE PULLED TOGETHER AND CREATED SOMETHING THAT WAS MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL THAN WE'VE EVER HAD, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT INTO A VERY USEFUL TOOL.

SO JUST REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO'S HERE AND THOSE WHO, YOU KNOW WILL LISTEN LATER.

BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING.

AND. YES, ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW ON TO THE FIRST BUSINESS ITEM.

SO THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF THE TENTATIVE MILITARY FOR FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS AGAIN, BUT I JUST WILL MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND THEN SORT OF RESTATE THE THE MILITARY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR.

SO FIRST OF ALL, AS AS ANGELICA RELAYED, THIS BUDGET IS A CRITICAL IT'S A CRITICAL BUDGET FOR US.

AND I KNOW LATER WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CRITICAL NEED ELEMENTS AND COMPONENT OF, UH, WHAT BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT IN THE BUDGET.

BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S, IT'S A HUGE STEP FOR US AND THAT WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL INCLUDES STEPS TOWARD IMPROVING OUR POSITION WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE AND FIRE. STAFFING DOES START TAKING STEPS TOWARD MEETING SOME OF THE MANY CAPITAL NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY

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IT ALSO MAKES A REALLY HUGE STEP FOR US REGARDING UPFRONT FUNDING FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

AND AS WE'VE TALKED AT A RECENT MEETING, WE HAVE A STRATEGY TO GET TO THAT REOCCURRING INVESTMENT, WHICH IS EXCITING FOR ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO TO SAY THAT FOR FUTURE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND FUNDING.

AND THEN LASTLY, I WOULD SAY THAT ANGELICA MENTIONED THE GENERAL FUND STABILIZATION POLICY.

OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS YEAR, AS LAST YEAR, IS TO GO TO THE 4% LEVEL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DO TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE SAVING IN THERE.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BASICALLY JUST RESTATE THE POSITION THAT THE BUDGET IS BASED ON AT THIS POINT.

SO I WOULD BE REQUESTING COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION FOR SETTING THE AD VALOREM MILLAGE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE AT 7.5995 AND SETTING THE VOTED DEBT MILITARY AT 1.0931.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TYREECE JUST BROUGHT UP.

DID YOU ROLL RIGHT INTO THE ITEM NUMBER ONE NEW BUSINESS OR.

WE WE'RE WORKING ON THE PUBLIC.

I'M SORRY, SIR. I ROLLED INTO NUMBER ONE.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT. YES. SO YOU'RE ASKING ME IF I JUMPED THE GUN ON BID, IF I OPENED UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOT NEW BUSINESS.

SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE DIRECTION.

SO WE'RE. BUT YOU HAD NOT FORMALLY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WHEN WE DID THE PRESENTATION.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO PLEASE INCLUDE ANGELICA'S PRESENTATION ON HER PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANTED TO ASSURE THAT WE'RE STILL UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

GREAT. SO THEN I CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE THAT.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM OR JUST SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS? STEP FORWARD, SIR.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AS IF WE DON'T KNOW.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL RANDAL OLSZEWSKI.

348 BROOKINGS STREET NORTHEAST.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN FOSTER FOR POINTING OUT A A GLARING HOLE IN THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN, A RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS COULD ONLY COME UP WITH 275,000 OF CAPITAL OUTLAY.

SAME RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS 2.2 MILLION TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

BUT THE ONLY CAPITAL OUTLAY PLANS THEY HAVE IS 275,000 OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S TROUBLESOME TO ME, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M HOLDING UP THIS DOCUMENT.

THIS SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO ALL OF YOU.

THIS IS A PROPOSED TAX BILL.

AND I ASSUME YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS RIGHT.

SO WE'LL JUST USE REAL FIGURES.

WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR FOR MS..

COLLINS. I'LL JUST I'LL JUST USE MY TAX BILL, MY MY TAX BILL'S PUBLIC RECORD, AND YOU ALL KNOW MY ADDRESS BY HEART BY NOW.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE CITY OF PALM BAY MAKES UP 39% OF MY PROPOSED TAXES.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ONLY MAKES UP 33.

31 WAS THE PERCENTAGE I CAME TO.

SO MORE THAN THE SCHOOL WANTS FROM ME.

DOES THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT'S BEFORE THE ROAD BOND THAT I'LL HAVE TO PAY AT THE 1.0993.

SO WHEN I ADD THAT IN, THAT COMES TO ABOUT 45% OF MY PROPOSED TAX BILL IS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO LET'S NOT UNDER EMPHASIZE AND HANG OUT IN THE ONE THIRD.

LET'S HANG OUT WITH APPROACHING THE ONE HALF.

AND WHERE WE'LL GET TO THE ONE HALF IN QUICK FASHION IS IF WE FOLLOW THIS CAPITAL OUTLAY PLAN AS DESIGNED.

SO $100 MILLION IS GOING TO COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND WHERE $27 MILLION IS GOING TO COME FROM IMPACT FEES.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT HOW GROSSLY OUT OF WHACK OUR IMPACT FEES ARE.

MIND YOU, RECREATION DEPARTMENT GETS MORE THAN TWICE WHAT FIRE AND POLICE PUT TOGETHER IS, BUT THEY DON'T PLAN TO SPEND ANY OF IT.

AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT 100 MILLION AND HALF OF THE REVENUE FROM THE GENERAL FUND COMES FROM OUR AD VALOREM TAXES.

THAT'S 50 MILLION.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND 27 MILLION OF IMPACT FEES, WHICH IS FUTURE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE AND MAKING PARTS OF OUR CITY OUT OF SWAMPLAND.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND $50 MILLION OFF OF OFF OF MY SWEATER, OF MY BACK OFF OF MR. BANTON'S. BACK OFF, MISS CONNALLY'S BACK OFF.

EVERYBODY THAT GOT THIS YELLOW PAPER AND THEN GUYS IT AS THAT.

WELL, IT'S MINIMAL IMPACT.

IT'S A MINIMAL IMPACT. WE'RE ONLY A THIRD OF THE BILL.

YOU GOT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.

I DO REALLY UNDERSTAND.

AND I HOPE THAT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE AD VALOREM CAP IS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE CITIZENS OF TODAY AND YESTERDAY DON'T PAY FOR THE CITIZENS OF TOMORROW'S NEEDS TO CITIZEN OF TOMORROW'S NEEDS SHOULD HELP US PAY FOR THE DEFICIT WE HAVE TODAY, AND THE DEFICIT WILL HAVE TOMORROW BECAUSE THEY WANT TO COME JOIN OUR PARTY, COME JOIN OUR PARTY, PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE.

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AND THAT'S WHAT THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN, 227 MILLION OUT OF ALMOST 400 IS NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE DEFICIT WE PLAN TO HAVE.

SO LET'S FOCUS ON THE NEWCOMERS PAYING FOR THAT RATHER THAN THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE PAYING THESE TAXES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? STEP FORWARD.

NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.

SO TO RECAP THE SITUATION TO DATE, THE 3% CAP, WHICH WAS VOTED INTO PLACE BY 70% OF THE RESIDENTS, HAS ONLY BEEN EXCEEDED DUE TO NATURAL DISASTER IN THE FORM OF HURRICANES, EACH OF WHICH ACCOMPANIED AN OFFICIAL DECLARATION OF A STATE OF EMERGENCY BY THE GOVERNOR.

TONIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF YOU ARE INTENT ON EXCEEDING THAT CAP BY OVER 12%, NOT AN INCREASE OF 12%, BUT EXCEEDING THE CAP BY OVER 12% DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS CITY GOVERNMENT HAS UNDERFUNDED AND UNDER PRIORITIZED PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE MOST PRIMAL FORMS OF POLICE DEPARTMENT, POLICE SERVICES AND FIRE SERVICES FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

SOME WOULD SAY MANY YEARS.

AND IT IS INTENDED TO DO THIS WHILE HAVING ALLOCATED $9 MILLION OF FEDERAL ARPA FUNDS, THAT IS, CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUNDS TO A NEW CITY.

OFFICE BUILDING. $7 MILLION OF WHICH WAS ELIGIBLE TO BE USED FOR FIRE SERVICES.

APPROXIMATELY TWO OF OUR THREE MISSING FIRE STATIONS.

I AM STILL THOROUGHLY AGAINST BREAKING THE CAP, BUT CONSIDERING THESE FACTORS, I WILL CONCEDE THAT WE ARE CLEARLY IN CRITICAL NEED.

BUT IT IS NOT A NEED BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE RESIDENTS.

IT IS A NEED BROUGHT ABOUT BY CITY HALL.

PAST AND PRESENT.

AND IT WILL NOT BE SOLVED AND SHOULD NOT BE SOLVED BY PASSING THAT BILL TO THE RESIDENTS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE SMALLER VERSIONS OF THE PROPOSED 2023 BUDGET.

ITS 177 PAGES.

I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO WHAT IN THIS VERSION IS PAGE EIGHT.

WHERE THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY ARE AT THE TOP OF THIS AUTHORITY PYRAMID.

NOT PYRAMID. IT'S A CHART.

ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE.

THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

WHO VOTED IN THAT CAP BY A LOT.

BY ACTUALLY A LARGER PORTION, THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING OUR TAXES.

AND I WISH I COULD.

IMPOSE THAT THE REMAINDER OF MY 30 SECONDS WOULD BE USED FOR YOU ALL TO JUST RE RUN THROUGH EVERYTHING MR. OLSZEWSKI SAID. IT WAS VERY WELL SAID.

PLEASE REMEMBER WHO'S AT THE TOP OF THAT STRUCTURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? HEY, KELSO, ANY DISCUSSION? YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR FILIBERTO.

SO ON SLIDE NUMBER.

IT'S BEEN CALLED UNDER FIVE EXPENDITURE EXPENDITURE ADJUSTMENTS.

I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING THE RECLASSIFICATION OF ASSISTANT.

TO CITY MANAGER, TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

IS THAT A NEW ROLE OR IS THAT RELATED TO THE CURRENT DEPUTY CITY MANAGER? WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, SIR.

SO THAT IS A NEW POSITION.

THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED US TO CREATE.

LAST DECEMBER WE WORKED ON AND I SHOULD BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

PART OF THE CONVERSATION WAS THAT THAT POSITION ULTIMATELY WOULD WE WOULD COME BACK AND REQUEST THAT IT BECAME A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FULL, FULL SERVICE DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS.

WE ACTUALLY BEGAN THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION, AND WE'RE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER POSITION AND WERE UNSUCCESSFUL EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

I THINK WE WENT THROUGH INTERVIEWS, MADE AN OFFER.

THE PERSON WAS UNABLE TO AFFORD TO COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF HOUSING AT THE TIME AND SO THEY ULTIMATELY DECLINED AND THEN OUR SECOND CANDIDATE WITHDREW.

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BUT ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING CLOSER TO THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND BRING THE REQUESTS TO UPGRADE THAT POSITION.

IT STILL IS VACANT AND IF THIS IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THEN WE WILL POST IT AS A FULL TIME DEPUTY IN OCTOBER.

THANK YOU. GIVE ME ONE MORE SECOND.

SORRY. RUN THROUGH IT HERE.

OKAY. SO GOING TO THE LINE ITEMS ON I'M GOING TO OUR PROPOSED CITY BUDGET HERE FOR THAT I HAVE A NOTEBOOK FOR.

THE FISCAL YEAR. I WANTED TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS HERE.

THE FIRST ONE GOING TO BE ON PAGE 85, AND THIS IS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION FOR 170,000.

IS THIS PUBLIC OR IS THIS FOR PUBLIC USE OR IS THIS FOR EMPLOYEE USE? AND ALSO HOW MANY CHARGING STATIONS WILL THERE BE? UH, GIVE ME A SECOND. I'M GOING TO TRY TO PULL UP THE PAGE THAT YOU'RE ON.

WE HAVE ELECTRONICALLY JELLICOE.

I WOULD CARRY ON PULLING IT UP, BUT I DID FIND THAT ONE.

SO THE SPECIFIC REQUEST YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ITEM IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO THIS ONE IS FOR WE'RE PURCHASING, IT LOOKS LIKE.

ACTUALLY, WE'RE. I KNOW WE'RE BUYING 15 DIFFERENT, UM.

ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR THE BUILDING FLEET 15.

AND WE ARE BUYING VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS FOR CHARGING THOSE FLEET VEHICLES.

SO THESE WERE NOT FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND I BELIEVE WE'RE BUYING THE TYPES OF EV CHARGERS THAT HAVE TWO HEADS ON THEM.

SO WE SHOULD BE FUNDING APPROXIMATELY EIGHT CHARGING STATIONS UNDER THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THE LINE.

SO NOW MOVING OVER TO FIRE, I DID WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INCREASING THE AIR PACKS THERE.

AND I NOTICED THAT IN THE CHANGE.

SO I WANTED TO GO TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL.

I'M SHOWING PARAMEDIC SCHOOL FOR 50 GRAND.

THIS IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. I WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY.

FIRST, I WANT TO SEE CONFIRMED TO BE ON THE BUDGET.

THE SECOND I WANTED TO SAY IS HOW MANY FIRE FIGHTERS WILL BE GOING TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL? SO THIS ITEM, WE ACTUALLY FUNDED IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, I BELIEVE, THIS FISCAL YEAR AND IT CAME OUT OF OUR BUDGET OR EXCUSE ME, OUR UNION NEGOTIATIONS WITH.

IF SO, IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE PROPOSING TO INCLUDE IN THIS COMING YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE ANTICIPATE FUNDING IT FOR AS MANY YEARS AS WE NEED IT.

SO INTO THE FUTURE WOULD BE OUR PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW.

MY LAST CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE CHIEF WAS THAT DEPENDING ON THE COST OF THE SCHOOL AT THE TIME THAT WE ASSIGN FOLKS UP THAT WE COULD GET ANYWHERE FROM LIKE MAYBE 6 TO 8 DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS SIGNED UP.

SO THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL EACH YEAR TO BE ABLE TO TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ARE FULLY TRAINED IN THAT CAPACITY.

OF COURSE, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THEIR THEIR INTEREST AND WILLINGNESS TO DO IT AS WELL.

SO SO WE'RE PLANNING ON ABOUT 6 TO 8 STAFF STAFF MEMBERS PER YEAR TO GO TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL.

YES, THAT WAS THE LAST NUMBER I HEARD.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOL OPTIONS THAT CHIEF HAD DISCUSSED WITH ME PREVIOUSLY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE ULTIMATELY WE SETTLED ON FOR THIS YEAR'S SESSION, I GUESS I'LL CALL IT, BUT THAT WAS THE RANGE OF WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO DO ANNUALLY.

THANK YOU. AND MOVING ON TO MY NEXT ONE, IT SAYS, PARKS AND FACILITIES.

I'M SEEING BUILDING SECURITY HERE FOR 415,000.

I JUST WANTED TO IF YOU COULD GIVE A BRIEF HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT.

THE BUILDING SECURITY. WHAT DOES IT CONSIST OF? SO YES. SO AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A WHILE NOW ON IMPROVING OUR OVERALL SECURITY ON THE CAMPUSES, ALL THE CITY CAMPUSES, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS NEEDED SOME ATTENTION FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE HAVE HAD UNDERWAY FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS A FULL REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEMS, SO CAMERAS AND DOOR FOBS AND

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SO EXCUSE ME, WE'VE THIS WAS A REALLY A PLACEHOLDER ITEM IN THE BUDGET WITH AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO FUND FOR THE FIRST PHASE.

BUT WE REALLY WEREN'T SURE WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING ON KIND OF THE FINAL REPORT, WHICH HAS BEEN COMING OUT RECENTLY.

I THINK I SAW AN EMAIL ON THAT TODAY.

SO THIS IS ITEM ACTUALLY ANGELIKA WAS REFERRING TO.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE 415,000 OR SO.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY DROPPED THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO COVER SOME OF THOSE OTHER GENERAL FUND NEEDS.

BUT TO WRAP UP, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS ONCE WE GET THE FINAL ACCESS CONTROL REPORT, WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL ABOUT PHASING THE NEEDS TO IMPROVE OUR BUILDING SECURITY.

AND WE WILL START WITH THE MOST PUBLIC CAMPUSES WHERE LIKE WE HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WILL COME. THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE LATER IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MOVING ON. OKAY.

SO I SEE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS HERE FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

AND THIS IS A I SEE THAT WE'RE GOING DO SOME STREETLIGHT MAINTENANCE AND SOME, YOU KNOW, FOR ELECTRICITY, SOME HANGING OF THE LIGHTS, TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND TEST TO SIGNAL CABINETS. SO AROUND OUR CITY AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU TWO BEFORE MISS SHERMAN AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF BLINKING YELLOW LIGHTS THAT ARE THAT ARE TURN SIGNALS. SO BASICALLY THE LIGHT WILL BE GREEN AND THEN THE TURN SIGNAL LIGHT WILL BE YELLOW.

SO THAT WAY YOU CAN YIELD AND TAKE THE TURN.

OR LIKE AN EXAMPLE HERE ON MALABAR BOULEVARD, SOME PEOPLE ARE SITTING THERE FOR FIVE, SIX, 7 MINUTES WAITING FOR A RED LIGHT TO TURN GREEN TO JUST TO TAKE THE LEFT TURN WHEN IT'S BEEN CLEAR FOR 3 MINUTES BEFOREHAND.

SO WITH THOSE SIGNAL UPGRADES, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE UPGRADE OR AN INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE OF TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE HAVE OUR TRAFFIC LIGHTS DO THE SAME AS THEY DO IN MELBOURNE? UM, POSSIBLY THIS THESE ITEMS ARE NOT ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK THROUGH WITH OUR TRAFFIC SUPERVISOR AND OUR TRAFFIC, REALLY.

FRANK WATANABE AS CITY ENGINEER ALSO PROVIDES SOME TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SERVICES.

SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE STREET LIGHT FUNCTIONS, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT FUNCTIONS, I SHOULD SAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE AND WE CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT FOR HOW WE CAN PROGRAM AND DESIGN THOSE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THAT'S THESE ARE JUST THESE ITEMS YOU'RE REFERENCING ARE REALLY JUST NORMAL NEEDED MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES TO REPLACE PARTS AND COMPONENTS OF OUR SYSTEMS. UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU. ANOTHER ITEM HERE FOR I BELIEVE IT IS PUBLIC WORKS A ZERO TURN MOWER.

SO COUNCIL RECENTLY APPROVED TWO ZERO TURN MOWERS FOR 28,000.

AND I'M SHOWING A ZERO TURN MOWER.

THAT'S WHAT THE LINE ITEM SAYS FOR 28,000.

SO IS THIS 410 TURN MOWER OR IS THIS FOUR TWO OR THREE OR ZERO TOMORROW PLUS SOME EXTRA EQUIPMENT? I DID CONFIRM IT IS FOR TWO, SIR.

I'VE GOING DOWN THE LINE ONE MORE TIME.

NORWOOD BAFFLE BOX RETROFIT.

CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT THE BAFFLE BOX RETROFIT CONSISTS OF FOR $1.7 MILLION? NO, SIR. LET ME PULL THAT UP HERE.

SO THE STAFF COMMENTS ON THIS ONE IS THAT THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF CULVERT REPLACEMENTS IN THE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AREA.

THE CULVERT IS IN FAILED CONDITION AND DRAINS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE COUNTRY CLUB UNITS DOWN TO THE MELBOURNE TILGHMAN WATER CONTROLLED DISTRICT CANAL C ONE.

THE CULVERTS ALSO HAVE TWO BAFFLE BOXES.

IT SAYS THE PIPING SYSTEM IS NEXT TO A PALM BAY UTILITY LIFT STATION AND HAS ADDITIONAL INLETS AND OUTFALL STRUCTURES ALONG THE PIPE NETWORK.

THE SYSTEM MAY ALSO NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO THE UPSTREAM END AS THERE ARE LARGER PIPE PIPING SYSTEMS NORTH OF THIS CROSSING.

SO THE $1.7 MILLION FIGURE IS BECAUSE THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT STORMWATER STRUCTURE AND THIS IS A STORMWATER FUNDED PROJECT PROPOSAL FOR A CAPITAL PROJECT.

BUT THE THE COST IS BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO BAFFLE BOXES, MULTIPLE CULVERTS, AND IT'S A VERY LARGE SYSTEM.

THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN. NOW, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE HERE FOR 50 GRAND.

THAT'S DEFINED AS TURKEY CREEK BASIN.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT TURKEY.

TURKEY CREEK BASIN LINE ITEM IS? SEE HERE.

SO THIS THIS YEAR WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A WHAT WE CALL THE TURKEY CREEK FEASIBILITY STUDY.

IT WAS A STATE FUNDED REVIEW OF OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY IN TURKEY CREEK.

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SO IT WAS A RANGE OF THINGS, INCLUDING IMPROVE STORMWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS, CATCH THE WATER AND CLEAN IT UP BEFORE IT GOES INTO TURKEY CREEK. IT'S TO REDIRECT THE FLOW OF SOME OF THE WATER THAT GOES INTO OUTFALLS WHERE IT'S GOING DIRECTLY TO STOP IT BEFORE IT GETS THERE.

SOME OF IT WAS ABOUT USING AVAILABLE LANDS AND I THINK ALSO PARTNERING POTENTIALLY WITH MELBOURNE TILGHMAN TO USE SOME OF THEIR LAND FOR SOME OF THOSE, THOSE STRUCTURAL PIECES OR RETENTION AREAS.

SO I BELIEVE THIS IS A THIS IS A $300,000 ITEM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, SIR.

I'M SHOWING 50.

IT'S CAPITAL. WHY HAVE WHAT WE DO HAVE IN THE ONE OF THE ITEMS WE HAVE IN CAPITAL IS A 300,000 ITEM TO TRY TO CONSTRUCT FIVE OF THOSE PROJECTS.

LET ME SEE WHICH ONE THE 50 IS FOR, THOUGH.

YOU KNOW, PROJECT NUMBERS TWO THREE.

SIERRA UNIFORM ZERO EIGHT.

PRODUCE SHOW ON YOUR SCREEN.

WHEN I LOOK AT ZERO EIGHT, I HAVE A 300,000 ITEM.

SO IT'S JUST 50 OUT OF STORM WATER FUND DIRECTLY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION.

SO THE OVERALL PROJECT ESTIMATE WAS 350,000.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 300,000 LINE ITEM WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO APPLY FOR FDP GRANTS AND SOME OTHERS.

BUT YEAH, 50,000 IS THE CONTRIBUTE CONTRIBUTION DIRECTLY FROM THE STORMWATER FUND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MS.. SHERMAN AND I HAVE ONE MORE HERE.

THIS'LL BE MY LAST ONE. SO GOING TO UTILITIES, I'M SHOWING THIS PROJECT HAS TWO, TWO WHISKEYS, SIERRA TWO SIX.

IT'S A 12 INCH MALABAR ROAD EXTENSION.

WEBER TWO QUARRY.

WE CAN EXPLAIN THAT ONE.

ONE BEING THAT IT'S ON MALABAR ROAD AND I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE CITY OF MALABAR, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT FAR.

WE DO PROVIDE, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE WATER SERVICE TO, UM, SOME AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY.

THEY PAY OUTSIDE CITY RATES.

MALABAR WE DO HAVE SOME WATER SERVICE IN, IN THAT AREA.

AND JUST READING THE EXPLANATION OF THE PROJECT SAYS THE PROJECT WILL EXTEND A 12 INCH DEAD END WATER MAIN ON MALABAR ROAD TO THE 12 INCH DEAD END WATER MAIN ON QUARRY ROAD.

BY CONNECTING THESE WATER MAINS, THE OPERATING PRESSURES WILL BE INCREASED, THE WATER QUALITY WILL BE INCREASED, AND THE PALM BAY HOSPITAL WILL BE LOOPED TO ENSURE WATER SERVICE AT ALL TIMES.

THIS EXTENSION IS MORE FEASIBLE DUE TO RECENT CLEARING OF LAND BY BREVARD COUNTY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG MALABAR ROAD.

SO THIS IS AND I CAN CERTAINLY BRING THE UTILITY DIRECTOR UP, BUT THIS IS A WATER LOOPING, WATER QUALITY PROJECT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CUSTOMERS IN THAT AREA.

GOTCHA. AND I KNOW THAT HOSPITAL LOOPING THING WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE LADNER PROJECT, THE PROPOSED LADNER PROJECT.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE BUSINESS, MS..

[1. Consideration of the tentative millage rate for Tax Year 2021; re-computation, if needed, and announcement of tentative millage rate and percentage increase over rolled-back rate.]

SO I WILL RESTATE MY PRIOR COMMENTS, BUT MUCH MORE BRIEFLY.

SO THE REQUESTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WHICH IS RELATED TO ADOPTING THE TENTATIVE MILITARY, WOULD BE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TO ADOPT THE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 7.5995 AND TO ADOPT THE ROAD BOND MILLAGE OF JUST LOST MY PLACE AT 1.0931.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? AT THIS TIME. THEIR BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.

AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE.

A NEW AD VALOREM OPERATING MILLAGE RATE 7.5995 AND ALSO THE DEAD MILLAGE RATE

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A COUNCILMAN.

AWESOME, FELIX.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE BRIEF.

I THINK WE HAVE AMPLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

THE IMPORTANCE OF OF.

OF MAINTAINING THE MILLAGE AT 7.5995.

WE'RE FACING A CRITICAL POINT WHERE WE WE WE HAVE A GREAT NEED FOR TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE STATION, THE GREAT NEEDS THAT WE WE HAVE AND ALSO THE POLICE NEEDS.

SO THAT IS MY REASONING TO SUPPORT THAT WE MAINTAIN THE RATE AS IS ALSO IN FOSTER.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME POINTS HERE.

YOU KNOW, OUR CITIZENS GET UP HERE AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT THEY FORGET.

THIS IS TYPICAL THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY.

WE FORGET ABOUT THE PAST.

THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THE PRESENT.

AND THE PAST SHOWED US THAT.

I'M REALLY SPEAKING TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS DIAS.

THE PAST SHOWED US THAT PALM BAY DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN TO.

REPAY CITY ROADS AND STREETS.

THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T FUND IT.

DO THEY HAVE A PLAN? OF THEY HAD A PLAN IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ONE THAT'S OUTDATED.

THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW IT.

THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW IT. AND.

WE HAVE A PLAN IN FRONT OF US.

THE MASTER CLIP FROM 2023 TO 2027.

THAT'S OUR ROAD MAP.

IT MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.

THAT'S OUR ROAD MAP.

TO HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S OUR ROAD MAP TO HAVE A PUBLIC WORK.

DEPARTMENT. THAT'S HOW ROADMAP TO HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S OUR ROADMAP TO HAVE A RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S HOW ROADMAP TO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS.

AND. AND YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE CAP.

I DON'T HAVE TO PLAY THAT BROKEN RECORD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT THE CAP DON'T GET US INTO THE FUTURE.

KEEP. DON'T GET US THERE.

MATTER OF FACT, I BELIEVE THE CAP WILL BANKRUPT THE CITY.

BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND OUR POLICE, OUR PARKS AND REC, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, OUR UTILITY.

WE WON'T HAVE THAT.

SO. AND.

AND TO PAY OUR EMPLOYEES.

THE BIGGEST BUDGET ITEM IS THE POLICE AND FIRE.

AND THE MILITARY IS THE SAME THAT RELAXING TO CONTINUE THE SAME ONE THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE AN INCREASED THE MILLAGE RATE.

FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET REACTION TO MAINTAINING.

OKAY. SO.

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET INTO THE FUTURE BY NOT.

DOING THIS MASTER CLIP PLAN.

BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS DONE AND TAKE.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET TO 2027? BY REDUCING THE MILITARY.

WE WANT A CITY GOVERNMENT.

SO. I MEAN, WE COULD GET UP HERE AND YEAH, THE CITIZENS VOTED FOR IT, BUT NOW WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

IN A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS.

WE PUT $1,000,000 TOWARDS THE ROADS.

YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND TO HAVE A POLICE AND FIRE AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

EQUIPMENT TO OPERATE OUR CITY.

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THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE.

THE TAXES OF OUR COUNTIES INCREASE, INCREASING THEIR TAXES.

MAYBE THE WHOLE PALM BAY SHOULD SHOW UP AT A BOVARD COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING AND RAISE HELL.

OR AT A SCHOOL BOARD.

AND SAY, OH, DON'T FUN, DON'T EDUCATE OUR KIDS.

WE DON'T NEED NO GREAT TEACHERS DON'T PAY.

THE TEACHERS DON'T DO NOTHING.

WE JUST WANT TO LET OUR SCHOOL CRUMBLE.

THE SCHOOL BUILDING HAS BEEN UP THERE A LONG TIME.

THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE MAINTENANCE.

OF COURSE, THE SCHOOL BOARD IS GOING TO INCREASE.

YOU'VE GOT TO PAY THE EMPLOYEES.

SAME THING THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAVE TO DO.

WE'VE GOT PEOPLE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND.

WHEN I SAY PEOPLE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICE SPACE.

YEAH, WE GOT TO TAKE SOME OF THAT ARPA FUNDS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WITH IT.

A BUILDING E.

A FIRE STATION.

UM, SO MY THAT'S MY POINT.

YOU KNOW, I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME, AND OUR POINT, IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMEWHERE, YOU'VE GOT TO ASK SOMEONE.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLAN.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A ROADMAP.

IF YOU WANT TO GO FROM PALM BAY TO PINEAPPLE, ALABAMA.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A CITY THAT I'VE BEEN IN.

IT'S A SMALL CITY POPULATION OF ABOUT 2000.

YOU WANT TO GET TO PALM BAY, TO PINEAPPLE OUT OF ALABAMA.

YOU GOT TO HAVE A ROAD MAP BECAUSE YOU NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE.

YOU GOT TO ASK SOMEONE.

YOU RELY ON SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN THERE BEFORE.

YOU RELY ON THE MAP.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MAP, I'M OLD SCHOOL.

YOU GOT TO HAVE A GPS SYSTEM.

YOU'VE GOT TO. SOMETHING'S GOT TO SHOW YOU HOW TO GET THERE.

THIS IS THIS IS HOW WE GET TO 2027.

AND. MY LAST POINT IS.

APPLE ON MILITARY IS THE SAME FROM.

WE ACTUALLY THE SAME SAME SAME PERCENTAGE FROM THIS YEAR GO INTO NEXT YEAR 2023 AND.

STAFF HAS DECREASED FROM WHAT THEY ASKED.

AM I CORRECT? CITY MANAGER ASKED FOR A WAS HIS ORDER.

HERE WE GO. PAGE FOR TAKE OFF MY GLASSES AND READ THE CITY WIDE FY 2023 PROPOSED WITH A CHANGE BUDGET DECREASE DECREASE DECREASE.

DECREASE BY.

$5,746,603 OR 2% FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

OF 288,000 EXCUSE ME.

288,550,000. 536 STAFF DON'T JUST THROW AWAY MONEY.

THEY ASK FOR WHAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND PALM BAY AND WE NEED TO GIVE IT TO THEM.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY. JUST WHAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED.

BUILDING E COUNCILMAN FOR SWAGIT.

THERE WILL BE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER WITHIN BUILDING E, AND I JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING DOWN THAT PATH AND YOU PULL BACK A LITTLE BIT.

BUT. YEAH.

WANT ME TO GO DOWN THAT PATH? NO, NO, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT FOR YOU.

I GOT A MOTION BY YOU OVERLOOKED IT, SIR, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS.

YOU ALWAYS BRING THAT UP.

YES. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER SINGING MY COUNT.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE, SIR? ALL RIGHT. SEE YOU. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES.

ROLL CALL. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

YES, THAT'S MY FELIX COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

MAYOR MEDINA. HI.

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[2. Ordinance 2022-96, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 200, Utilities Code, by adjusting the rates, fees and charges for the City's utilities system and services, first reading]

SIR. I'VE HEARD STORE, SIR.

THANK YOU. ORDINANCE 2020 296 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE CHAPTER 200 UTILITIES CODE BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR THE CITY'S UTILITIES SYSTEM AND SERVICES, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCE OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES.

ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH FIGHTING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS ITEM RELATED TO THE UTILITIES CODE SPECIFIC TO CHAPTER 200 IS THE PRIMARY CHAPTER RELATED TO OUR USER RATES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSED TO INCREASE 1.75% FOR WATER AND 3.75% FOR SEWER.

THOSE USER RATES ARE PROPOSED TO INCREASE PER LAST YEAR'S DISCUSSION.

YOU'LL RECALL WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR RATES AND WE DID A HAD OUR CONSULTANT DO A SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS STANTEC AND THEY LOOKED AT THOSE RATES AGAIN AND VERIFY THAT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE. SO PER THE PLAN WE LAID OUT TO YOU LAST YEAR, THAT IS OUR PROPOSAL HERE FOR THESE RATES.

THERE ARE ALSO SOME MISCELLANEOUS A VARIETY OF MISCELLANEOUS FEES REGARDING THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT OF THE BUSINESS THEY THEY PROVIDE THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE ADJUSTED AND THOSE ARE IN THE ATTACHMENTS.

THERE ARE SOME THAT WENT DOWN AND SOME THAT WENT UP.

SO REALLY JUST HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THAT.

AND THE UTILITY STRUCTURE OBVIOUSLY IS HERE AS WELL AS OUR RATE CONSULTANT STANTEC, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE GOING LIKE WAY UP FROM INSPECTIONS FROM 98 TO $125 AND THEN.

I GUESS THE FINES VIOLATIONS, I SHOULD SAY, FROM 125 TO THE THIRD OF THIRD OFFENSE AT 375.

UM. SO THAT IS HUGE.

SO I CAN HAVE THE DIRECTOR COME UP AND SPEAK TO SOME OF THE.

YES. IF MR. LITTLE, PLEASE.

YOU GOT IT, PLEASE. BECAUSE THAT PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, FROM INSPECTIONS FROM $98 TO 125 1%.

IS THAT THAT THAT IS HUGE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THE ISSUE WITH THE TAMPERING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FLAT $350 CHARGE PER TAMPER.

SO IF SOMEONE GOES IF WE LOCK THEM OUT OF THEIR WATER METER AND THEY GO AND BREAK THE LOCK AND TURN IT BACK ON, THEY'RE CHARGED $350.

WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT PEOPLE WILL TAMPER, PAY THEIR BILL AND THEN WAIT A WHILE, THEN TAMPER AGAIN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THEIR BILL ON TIME, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY THE TAMPER CHARGE AND THEN THE BILL ALL IN ONE.

IT'S WEIRD TO ME HOW IT WORKS, BUT THAT'S HOW IT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES TO SEE HOW THEY ADDRESS TAMPERING AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ACTUALLY HAVE ONE THROUGH FOUR OFFENSES, AND IT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS INDUCE COMPLIANCE, TRY TO STOP PEOPLE FROM TAMPERING REPEATEDLY AND TRY TO SAVE THEM SOME MONEY BY NOT CONTINUALLY TAMPERING WHEN THEY CANNOT PAY THEIR BILLS.

OKAY. IS THERE ANOTHER WAY OF HELPING THEM SAVE THEIR MONEY? I MEAN, HOW DO THEY BREAK THE LOCK? IS THERE A FOOLPROOF LOCK SYSTEM? WELL, SO ORIGINALLY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WOULD USE ACTUAL PADLOCKS, BUT PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO THEIR THEY WILL BREAK PRETTY MUCH DAMAGE OUR EQUIPMENT.

SO WE HAVE TO GO AND REPLACE ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT, PLUS CHARGE THEM A TAMPERING CHARGE.

SO WHAT WE USE, WE USE THESE VERY THICK, STURDY ZIP TIES THAT HAVE SERIAL NUMBERS ON THEM.

THEY'RE VERY STRONG AND THAT PEOPLE WILL JUST TAKE SOME INDUSTRIAL SCISSORS AND CUT THEM AND THROW THE ZIP TIE AWAY.

OKAY. SO WHILE I HAVE YOU HERE, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THESE INDUSTRIAL DISCHARGE FEES.

RIGHT. I SEE THOSE ARE GOING DOWN.

GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF THOSE DISCHARGE PERMITS.

WHY ARE THEY GOING DOWN? SO WHAT WE DID AND I HAVE JEFF WITH STANTEC HERE THAT CAN GO INTO THE METHODOLOGY.

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THESE ARE A VERY SMALL PART OF OUR REVENUE.

AND HISTORICALLY, PER THE ORDINANCE, WE ESCALATE THESE PER THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSIONS INDEX AND IT'S IT'S VERY BETWEEN ONE AND 3% OVER THE YEARS. THIS YEAR, WE DECIDED TO ACTUALLY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEP DIVE AND SEE WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY COST US TO PERFORM, WHETHER IT'S LABOR, MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, SOUP TO NUTS.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR US TO.

YOU KNOW WHAT? IT TAKES US TO PERFORM THIS WORK WITHOUT US LOSING MONEY.

SO STANTEC ASSISTED US WITH OUR UTILITY'S ACCOUNTANT GOING LINE BY LINE, AND THAT'S WHY.

MS.. SHERMAN NOTED THAT SOME OF THESE HAVE GONE UP.

SOME HAVE GONE DOWN.

SO WE ACTUALLY LOOKED WE CALCULATED BASED ON THE AVERAGE PERMIT, WHAT'S THE MAN HOURS WITH TIME AND MATERIALS TO FACILITATE AND MAINTAIN THESE PERMITS.

SO WHERE SOME OF THEM ARE INCREASING.

FROM 301, THE TYPE THREE PERMIT IS GOING FROM 301 TO 775.

AND THEN YOU'RE REDUCING THE TYPE ONE JUST 50 BUCKS OR SO.

SO WHEN YOU EQUATE THOSE, THE TYPE THREE IS LIKE.

THEY'RE PAYING OVER.

TWICE AS MUCH. YES.

SO I DO NOT HAVE THE CALCULATION SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE.

I WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY BRING IT BACK TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.

BUT WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S JUST GOING LINE BY LINE.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE US TO TO HANDLE THESE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS? AGAIN, THESE ARE VERY WE DO NOT HAVE VERY MANY OF THESE THESE ARE VERY SMALL COMPONENTS OF OUR OVERALL RATE STRUCTURE.

THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. LITTLE WHILE HE'S UP? COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WHEN YOU SAY TAMPERING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY IS BREAKING A LOT.

CHANGING THE METER TO WHAT LOWERED THE RATE, LOWERED THEIR METER RATE OR THE COST.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR BILL, THEY GET A WARNING, PAY YOUR BILL.

THEN IF THEY CONTINUE TO NOT PAY THEIR BILL, WE SEND SOMEONE OUT TO TURN THEIR WATER METER OFF, PUT THE LOCK ON IT.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS IT HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN WHEN WE DRIVE AWAY.

SOMEONE COMES OUT SNIPS AND PULLS THE LOCK AND TURNS THE WATER BACK ON AND THAT'S CONSIDERED TAMPERING.

SO BASICALLY THEY STEAL IN WATER.

YES. YES. WELL, THEY'LL EVENTUALLY PAY FOR IT BECAUSE WE KEEP TRACK OF IT AND MONITOR IT.

BUT, YES, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT PAYING THEIR BILLS AND THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY STEALING THE WATER.

FP NO, YOU CAN'T STEAL ELECTRICITY.

THEY JUST CUT YOU OFF AND YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T TAMPER WITH THAT.

YES. SO WE SHOULD BE LIKE FP, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO BE LIKE THIS.

JUST JUST CUT THE WATER OFF COMPLETELY.

I JUST FOR FOR EXCESSIVE TAMPERS, WE HAVE HAD TO ACTUALLY PULL THE METERS.

WE'VE HAD TO CUT THE LINE BACK ALL THE WAY TO THE WATER MAIN TO STOP PEOPLE FROM TAMPERING WITH THE SYSTEM.

I JUST. I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S STILL IN WATER, BUT.

AND THE DISCHARGE, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID.

INDUSTRIAL DISCHARGE.

THAT'S A BUSINESS TYPICALLY.

YES. AND WE GO IN LOWER ON THEM.

AND WE LOWERED THE FEE FOR A SPECIFIC TYPE.

YES. THE MAYOR MENTIONED TYPE ONE IS LOWER.

THE TYPE THREE IS HIGHER.

SO YES.

AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST BASED ON MAN HOURS AND TIME, THE MATERIALS TO FACILITATE THESE PERMITS, BUT FOR TAMPERING WITH THE CUSTOMER IF THEY TAMPER WITH THE METER AND GET EXTRA WATER, WE JUST CHARGING THEM.

WHAT? RATE IS RIGHT ON TOP OF THE TAMPA CHARGE.

YES. ON TOP OF IT, YES.

SO THEY STILL PAY THEIR BASE CHARGES, THE WATER USAGE THAT THEY STOLE.

I MEAN, THEY'LL THEY'LL END UP PAYING FOR IT.

AND THEN THEY PAY THE TAMPA CHARGE ON TOP OF IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO, BY YOUR LOGIC, YOU SAID THAT THEY'LL SAVE MONEY.

BY YOUR LOGIC, WHEN.

IF IF THEY DO TAMPER THIS TIME, IT'LL COST THEM A LOT MORE.

YES. AND IT WON'T PROVE USEFUL FOR THE INTERIM TO BE BREAKING.

IT'S JUST SEEING A LITTLE MORE IF THEY CONTINUE TO TAMPER INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO SORT THEIR AFFAIRS AND PAY THEIR MONTHLY BILL.

A BUSINESS WHO'S DISCHARGING STUFF.

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WE CHARGING THEM LESS.

WELL, THAT'S JUST FOR THE WELL.

SO THAT'S JUST MONITORING FOR THESE INDUSTRIAL PERMITS.

THIS ISN'T A LIKE AN ILLEGAL DISCHARGE.

THIS IS A DISCHARGE MONITORING GOING INTO OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

BORING AS YOU WERE.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONLY A QUESTION I HAVE.

WHEN WAS THE LAST RATE INCREASE SEEN BY THE RESIDENTS? LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR. SO HAPPENS YEARLY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OR MADAM SHERMAN.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER WOULD LIKE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS.

SURE. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THESE RATE INCREASE NEEDED? SURE. JEFF DYKSTRA, SENIOR MANAGER AT STANTEC.

SO. YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR THE UTILITY DOES A OVERALL REVIEW OF ITS RATES, MAKE SURE THAT THE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE UTILITY ARE MET. AND SO UTILITY IS A VERY CAPITAL INTENSIVE BUSINESS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

AND THIS YEAR, WE'RE RECOMMENDING CONTINUATION OF THE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU LAST YEAR IN ORDER TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR ALL THE LATEST GROWTH IN THE CITY.

THE BUDGET HAS INCORPORATED RECENT COST INFLATION FOR THE UTILITY FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT, JUST THE SIZE OF THE CAPITAL PROGRAM.

IF THE UTILITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND AND WITH THE GROWTH COMES PLANT EXPANSIONS AND UNFORTUNATELY TOOLS LIKE IMPACT FEES ARE USEFUL, BUT THEY DON'T FULLY COVER THE COST JUST IN TIME.

YOU HAVE TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY FOR A PLANT EXPANSION AND YOU GET THAT YOU GET THE IMPACT FEES OVER TIME.

AND SO REALLY IT'S A COMBINATION OF FACTORS, BOTH CAPITAL BUT ALSO OPERATING.

MAKE SURE THE UTILITY MAINTAINS ITS OPERATING COSTS.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN DRIVERS, I WOULD SAY, FOR WHY THE RATE INCREASE IS RECOMMENDED.

AND YOU DID A STUDY OVER.

YOU DID A STUDY, CONSULTING STUDY ON OUR UTILITIES.

WHY THE RATE INCREASE OVER TIME, RIGHT? CORRECT, YEAH. EVERY YEAR THE UTILITY DOES A TEN YEAR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH ULTIMATELY DEVELOPS A PLAN OF RATE ADJUSTMENTS IF THEY'RE NEEDED AND ALSO DEVELOPS A FUNDING PLAN FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BALANCE THINGS LIKE IMPACT FEES, USES OF DEBT, POTENTIALLY, IF NEEDED, IF NEEDED, BUT THEN ALSO CASH FROM THE UTILITY TO PAY FOR THOSE PROJECTS. SO YES, EVERY YEAR THE UTILITY DOES A TEN YEAR FORECAST AND OBVIOUSLY PUTTING MORE ATTENTION AND FOCUS ON THE NEAR TERM AS THINGS ARE MORE IMMEDIATE AND KNOWN, OUR RATE INCREASE HAS AN IMPACT ON IMPACT FEES.

AS FAR AS PRODUCING MORE REVENUE.

MORE IMPACT, FRIEZE, I SHOULD SAY, IS THE MAYBE I'LL REPHRASE WHAT I THINK YOU'RE ASKING AND TELL ME IF IF I'M CORRECT.

BUT ARE YOU ASKING IF THE IMPACT FEES.

WOULD IT AFFECT THE LEVEL OF RATE INCREASES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? NO, THE OPPOSITE OF THE OPPOSITE.

ULTIMATELY THAT'S A POLICY DECISION.

BUT FROM A FROM A BEST PRACTICE STANDPOINT, THE IDEA IS THAT YOU UPDATE YOUR IMPACT FEES EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS SO THAT YOU MAKE SURE THEY COVER THE CURRENT COST OF CAPACITY AND EXPANSION.

AND IF YOU'RE IMPACT FEES ARE NOT AT THE FULL COST, EFFECTIVELY, YOUR RATEPAYERS ARE SUBSIDIZING WHAT THOSE IMPACT FEES SHOULD BE.

SO THEY'RE RELATED.

BUT I WOULD SAY JUST.

THE REVENUES THAT YOU GET FROM RATEPAYERS.

ARE MORE USEFUL TO YOU.

YOU CAN USE THEM FOR MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE ANYTHING TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM, WHEREAS IMPACT FEES ARE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON GROWTH RELATED PROJECTS AND.

I'M ASKING FOR YOUR OPINION.

IF WE DON'T INCREASE OUR RATE.

WHAT'S THE PROJECTED FUTURE OF OUR UTILITY? SERVICES. YEAH, I THINK THE UTILITY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF OF LOOKING AT THIS OVER A MULTI-YEAR PERIOD.

IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT THINGS IN A VACUUM ONE YEAR AT A TIME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OKAY NOW, SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.

THE DANGER OF THAT IS THAT.

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YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES HAVE YOU HAVE A MULTIYEAR CAPITAL PLAN YOU HAVE TO EXECUTE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SERVICE FOR THE FOR THE CITY.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A UTILITY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR A CITY TO TO GROW, TO BE SUSTAINABLE, TO REALLY BE ATTRACTIVE TO INVESTMENT.

SO HAVING A HEALTHY UTILITY THAT'S FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE IS IMPERATIVE IN MY MIND.

AND SO HAVING THOSE SYSTEMATIC SMALLEST CAN BE RATE INCREASES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR FOR THE OVERALL HEALTH AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE UTILITY.

YOU FACTOR IN THINGS AS WELL, LIKE RECENT INFLATION AND OPERATING COSTS, THE UTILITIES AREN'T IMMUNE TO THAT COST OF CHEMICALS.

YOU CAN ASK THE DIRECTOR WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CHEMICAL COSTS RECENTLY JUST SKYROCKETED.

AND SO THAT'S A COST UTILITY HAS TO BEAR.

AND SO FUNDAMENTALLY, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A RATE INCREASE NEXT YEAR, A UTILITY WOULD BE OKAY.

IF YOU DIDN'T, THE NEXT YEAR WOULD BE OKAY.

BUT YOU START LOOKING OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AND YOU START GETTING INTO SOME PROBLEMS AS FAR AS HOW THE UTILITY CAN OPERATE, WHAT PROJECTS IT CAN FUND, CAN YOU SERVICE YOUR DEBT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY PROMISED TO PAY BACK SO.

YOU START. THE MORE YOU PUSH THE THE THE PROVERBIAL CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WITH POTENTIALLY DOUBLE DIGIT RATE INCREASES.

SO. THE UTILITY HAS TO GET THE REVENUE AT SOME POINT IF YOU WANT TO BE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A UTILITY FUNDAMENTALLY.

THAT'S. YOU SAID EXACTLY WHAT I.

I KNEW YOU WAS GOING TO SAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AS YOU WERE DEPUTY MAYOR.

QUICK, QUICK. TWO FACTORS WITH THIS ONE.

I SPOKE ABOUT IT WITH YOU LAST YEAR REGARDING CONNECTING THOSE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO WATER.

AS ONE FACTOR IN TWO.

I WANTED THE CITY MANAGER TO KIND OF SPEAK ON WHICH WE SPOKE ABOUT AT AT THE IMPACT FEE MEETING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT UTILITY UTILITY IMPACT FEE UPDATES.

SO FIRST FOR YOU, SIR, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON HOW GETTING THOSE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO WATER, TO CITY WATER CONNECTED, HOW THAT CAN ALSO FACTOR IN A DIFFERENCE OF CHANGE IN THE PERCENTAGE? YEAH, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS AND REVENUES.

BUT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HELP.

THAT DOES HELP. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT THE ULTIMATELY THE MAGIC BULLET.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. BUT YEAH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT EVERY FACTOR WE HAVE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES.

BUT WE ALSO THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO IT AND AREN'T, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S PUSHING IT OFF, YOU KNOW, ON OTHERS.

SO YEAH, WE HAVE TO INVEST IT.

YEAH. SO JUST REAL QUICK, I'LL INTERJECT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 2300 WATER AVAILABLE, NOT CONNECTED THAT THEY COULD CONNECT TOMORROW IF THEY WANTED TO.

AND THEN ON THE SEWER SIDE, WE HAVE ABOUT 1400 RESIDENTS OR PROPERTIES THAT COULD CONNECT IF THEY WERE TO MAKE THE SWITCH.

AND BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS, WE HAVE THE WATER IN THE SEWERS.

BUT IF YEAH.

BUT IF THEY WERE TO CONNECT THAT, THAT WOULD ALTER THE NUMBERS.

CORRECT. SO WE HAVE CURRENTLY FOR THE WATER SIDE, WE HAVE 38,000, 39,000 CUSTOMERS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 2300 CUSTOMERS.

THE BOTTOM LINE, YES, THE THE RATE INCREASES COULD BE SLIGHTLY SMALLER.

LIKE I SAID, I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DRASTIC OR ANYTHING, BUT EVERY LITTLE BIT WOULD HELP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTIES AND WITHOUT COLLECTING THE FEES FROM THEM.

WHERE OTHER OTHER CUSTOMERS ARE PAYING FOR THAT PORTION, THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS.

AND THEN FOR SUZANNE, JUST TO KIND OF JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE AND REFRESH ON OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE UTILITIES IMPACT FEE, YOU GOT COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS.

AND YEAH, SO JUST TO TOUCH BACK ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK, SO WE DISCUSSED ALL THE IMPACT FEES.

CITY WIDE UTILITIES IS ACTUALLY BEEN GOOD ABOUT BEING UP OUT FRONT IN TERMS OF CHECKING, STUDYING, LOOKING TO SEE IF THEY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED BASED ON DATA OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND THE UTILITIES IMPACT FEES WERE ACTUALLY LAST UPDATED IN 2021, BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE IN A GOOD POSITION AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY DO WELL, WHICH IS I THINK AS AS WAS MENTIONED, THEY DO THESE REGULAR, VERY HEALTHY, ROBUST

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AND I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE IN ALL OF THIS AND IT WAS MENTIONED, BUT I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT IT IS THE UTILITIES IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND SO DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY WE LOOK AT GENERAL FUND AT TIMES WHERE WE MIGHT SEE THINGS IN TERMS OF RATES OR FEES OR CHARGES.

AND WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE AND SAY, WELL, CAN WE SUBSIDIZE THOSE OR REDUCE THE RATE? THAT'S THE REASON THAT THEY GO THROUGH THIS VERY IN-DEPTH STUDY.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THEY CAN TWEAK BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS, SOME THINGS THEY CAN TWEAK BASED ON, LIKE THE TAMPERING FEE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE BEHAVIORS.

BUT A LOT OF THOSE CORE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN THESE ORDINANCES ARE BASED ON THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY, SUCCESSFUL OPERATION TO KEEP PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES NOW IN IN THE FUTURE.

SO THEY RUN LIKE MORE LIKE A BUSINESS THAN THAN A SUBSIDIZING TYPE OF GOVERNMENTAL ENTERPRISE.

SO THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I'M BESIDE HIM. SEE ANON, I NEED A MOTION POSTER TO IMPROVE ON THIS 2022 DASH 96 FIRST READING GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR.

I AND HE OPPOSED US 3 TO 2.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[3. Ordinance 2022-97, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 201, Sewer Use, Subchapter ‘Miscellaneous Provisions’, by adjusting the permit fees and other charges related to the City’s utilities wastewater system, first reading]

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UTILITIES CODE CHAPTER 201.

SEWER USE SUBCHAPTER MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS BY ADJUSTING THE PERMIT, FEES AND OTHER CHARGES RELATED TO THE CITY'S UTILITIES WASTEWATER SYSTEM, FIGHTING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICTS.

HERE WITH WRITING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

WRITING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 201 IS A SMALLER GROUP OF MISCELLANEOUS FEES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE ADJUSTED AGAIN BASED ON THE ANALYSIS DONE BY STANTEC.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE IN THE REPORT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND ALSO ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS IS RECLAIMED THE WATER, SEWER, SEWER.

THESE ARE MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, THERE ARE THINGS RELATED TO INSPECTION FEES, VIOLATION INSPECTIONS.

LIFT STATION INSPECTIONS, DISCHARGE PERMIT.

BUT THESE ARE NOT THE ACTUAL SEWER RATES.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT ITEM.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? ANYONE WISH WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS.

SO FORWARD. GOOD EVENING.

RANDALL OLSZEWSKI 348 BROOK STREET NORTHEAST.

I'M RELATIVELY CONFUSED ON WHERE I SHOULD SHARE THIS COMMENT, WHETHER IT IS THE NEXT ITEM OR NOT, BECAUSE THE NEXT ITEM IS READING RECLAIMED WATER.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE STINKY STUFF.

NOW, THE ISSUE I HAVE IS I'M A BIG ADVOCATE FOR AS MANY PEOPLE GETTING HOOKED ONTO THE SEWER SYSTEM AS POSSIBLE, DOING IT RIGHT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF GETTING THAT THAT SEWER WATER PROPERLY TREATED AND NOT SITTING IN THE BACKYARD FEEDING INTO THE GARDEN.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE GOT A CONUNDRUM.

ONE IS HOW MANY FOLKS IS IT AVAILABLE TO CURRENTLY? WE ACTUALLY JUST HEARD THAT STATISTIC, THANKFULLY.

AND THEN WHERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO MORE PEOPLE? YOU KNOW, WHEN IS AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE LAMAR GOING TO GET ACCESS TO SEWAGE? WHEN IS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THE SOUTHEAST BY LIBERTY PARK, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ACCESS TO SEWAGE.

AND ONCE I LITERALLY PARK THERE IS ON THE OTHER IS NOT WHEN ARE THESE INCONGRUITIES IN THE INTERNAL PARTS OF THE CITY THE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER, FOR DECADES? WHEN IS THE SYSTEM GOING TO EXPAND TO ALLOW FOR US TO EVEN HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF, HEY, NOW THAT IT IS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT RING ON, RIGHT? IT'S THE TWO PROBLEMS. IT'S IN YOUR FRONT YARD.

ARE YOU GOING TO HOOK UP? BUT MOST FOLKS CAN COP OUT AND SAY, IT'S NOT IN MY FRONT YARD.

IT'S I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE A FOOL FOR BEING ON CITY WATER AND SEWER.

YOU KNOW, I SHOULD HAVE BUILT A HOUSE OUT IN SOUTHWEST AND SUCKED UP, WELL, WATER AND HAD A SEWER SYSTEM AND JUST NOT HAD A UTILITY BILL.

RIGHT. SOMETIMES MY HEAD WILL GO THAT WAY.

NOW, OF COURSE, IT'S MUCH SAFER TO HAVE FRESH, POTABLE, GUARANTEED SAFE WATER.

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SO YOU KNOW WHAT? I PAY MY BILL, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, RIGHT? THE TAXES ARE GOING UP, THE WATER FEES ARE GOING UP.

THE SEWER FEES ARE GOING UP.

YOU'RE JUST GOING DOWN.

MY 401K YOU KNOW IT'S GOING UP THE PRICE OF FOOD, THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO IT'S JUST BALANCING.

AND I'M JUST A NORMAL GUY.

I'M JUST A NORMAL PERSON.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ONE ITEM AND IT'S JUST THE FIRST OF MANY YET TO BE TALKED ABOUT, REALLY, YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE YOURSELF THROUGH THE MENTAL PROCESS OF GETTING TO THAT LAST ITEM, SAYING, HOW WOULD I PROCESS THIS AS A AS A HOUSEHOLD OWNER? I HOPE YOU ALL REALLY DO. I HOPE YOU LOOK AT THAT PROPOSED TAX BILL AND I HOPE YOU LOOK AT YOUR UTILITY BILL AND I HOPE YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE, WELL, OF COURSE, UNLESS THE CITIZENS VOTE FOR YOUR CHARTER AMENDMENT, I DON'T THINK THAT YOUR REVENUES ARE GOING TO GO UP NEXT YEAR AS EXPONENTIALLY AS REALLY YOU'RE ASKING OUR EXPENSES TO GO UP.

AND AGAIN, WHAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE IS THE BEHAVIOR TO GET ON TO THE SYSTEM, TO NOT HAVE THAT SILLY IDEA THAT YOU SHOULD GO OUT AND BE ON, WELL, WATER AND BE ON SEPTIC.

IT'S MORE ADVANTAGEOUS.

I WANT TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS THAT BEING ON CITY WATER AND CITY SEWER, MOST IMPORTANTLY, IS A GOOD THING TO DO.

BUT IF I INCREASE THAT AWARENESS CITYWIDE, EVERYONE IN THE CITY MAJORITY IS GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE I CAN'T DO IT.

WHEN IS THAT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN? IF ALL WE'RE DOING IS SERVICING THE DEBT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WHEN CAN WE EXPAND THE SYSTEM? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S AN ONGOING DEBATE WITH THE MANDATORY HOOK UP, THE STATE MANDATE.

MR. OLSZEWSKI, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH WEST.

RANDALL HIT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.

SAME QUESTION, SAME THING THAT I HAD ON THIS ONE.

AND IT WAS INFRASTRUCTURE.

HOW ABOUT LOOKING AT HOW TO GET THE WATER AND SEWER INTO SOME OF THE SCATTERED LOT AREAS? HE'S SAYING THE SOUTHWEST.

BUT WE HAVE THE SCATTER LOTS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE TO THEM.

BUT SOME OF THEM ARE CLOSE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE 304 HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM WHERE WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER MAINS BECAUSE WE PUT THEM IN FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S WHEN I SAY CLOSE, IT'S I KNOW IT COSTS LOTS OF MONEY TO RUN IT.

BUT IN IN RETROSPECT OF WHERE IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO, WE HAVE THE BIGGER SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE CITY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MORE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN.

BUT THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY STILL HAVE IT WITHOUT IT AVAILABLE.

SO I PUT DOWN IN MY NOTES, I SAY, SO HOW CAN WE DO THAT? MY RECOMMENDATION SORT OF JUST SAYING WE NEED TO FIND A WAY.

WOULD WE HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE UNDER THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, WHICH WOULD BE THE STORMWATER, WHICH WOULD BE THE UTILITIES EXPANSION FUND? ALSO, I KNOW IT'S MESSING WITH YOUR BUDGET.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN THIS TIME, BUT AT LEAST IT'S A PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE A UTILITIES EXPANSION FUND WHERE WE CAN START ADDING A COUPLE OF STREETS EVERY YEAR AND YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT THAT'LL SHOW THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY, WELL, WE JUST FORGOT ABOUT YOU.

WE'RE ONLY CONCENTRATING ON THE NEW GROWTH.

IT'LL SHOW THE RESIDENTS THAT, YEAH, YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM ON TO BE PART OF THE CITY BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAD IT.

AND THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST FOR THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT NOT EVERY STREET WAS BUILT WITH WATER AND SEWER.

IT WAS LATER INSTALLED LATER ON AS THEY EXPAND IT OUT AND THEN THEY GOT IT.

WELL, I DON'T SEE THAT EXPANSION INTO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS NOW LIKE I DID 20 YEARS AGO, AND THAT COULD BE BECAUSE THE CITY BOUGHT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANS FROM GDC, SO THEY WERE INSTALLING IT.

BUT THE CITY CAN'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS, BUT ENOUGH SAID ON THAT.

BUT THAT WOULD BE A PLAN THAT WOULD AT LEAST SHOW THE RESIDENTS YOU'RE TRYING TO NOW INCORPORATE THEM AND IT'LL WORK TOWARDS RANDALL SINGER SAYING, HOW DO WE GET ALL THE CITY ON IT? I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO START PAYING FOR A WATER AND SEWER BILL, BUT WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE, I'M SCARED TO DEATH BECAUSE MINE'S OVER $20,000 HOOKUP. THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? HEY, COUNSEL, I NEED A MOTION.

MOTION TO PROVE AUDIENCE 2020 297 FIRST READING.

I CAN. AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE I'LL BE BRIEF, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH BOTH MR. OLSZEWSKI AND MR. BATTEN, AND THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE INTO STRONG CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE HERE WE'RE WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME TO DO, YOU KNOW, PAY THIS AND OTHERS NOT SO.

WHERE'S IT WHERE'S THE BALANCE WITH THAT AS WELL? BUT ON THE SAME TOKEN, I'LL SPEAK FOR MR.

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WE PUT A MAIN LINE IN.

HALF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTS, HALF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, TOO.

SO IT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL.

WE REALLY NEED TO JUST SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH MR. LITTLE STAFF, EVERYONE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY, NOT JUST ONE GROUP OR THE OTHER.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION THE MASTER CHIEF MENTIONED IS THAT $20,000 HOOKUP.

AND HOW CAN WE ASK A FAMILY THAT HASN'T BEEN HOOKED UP TO TO MORTGAGE THEIR HOUSE, TO TO HOOK UP TO THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, RIGHT.

BUT COUNCILMAN FELIX OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU MADE THE SECOND.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MARY. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT SENDING THEM BROWN CHAIRS WHEN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS WAS FULL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL WANTED, I THINK IT WAS THE HOOK UP THE SEWER.

MR. LITTLE AND MR. LITTLE DIRECTOR LITTLE SPOKE.

AND. AND THE COUNCIL KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

AND. AND I SPOKE FOR.

SPLITTING THE BABY. EITHER YOU DO THE WATER OR DO THE SEWER.

BUT THE CITIZEN WAS VERY UPSET.

THEY DIDN'T WANT NONE OF THAT.

SOME OF THEM PROBABLY HAD A SEPTIC TANK OR WASN'T GETTING WELL.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY.

I DIDN'T WANT TO PAY. AND THE STATE LAW SAYS WE SHOULD HOOK UP.

WHAT IS THIS? SUPER STATE LAW? WE SHOULD HOOK UP TO SUE.

THAT'S THE STATE LAW.

THE STATE LAW.

AND PALM BAY IS IN VIOLATION OF THAT.

AND NOW WE'VE GOT A RATE INCREASE.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HAVING INCREASES BECAUSE WE KNOW.

WE'RE NOT ENFORCING THE STATE LAW.

AND LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, HOW CAN YOU ASK A.

A FAMILY TO, YOU KNOW, INVEST YOUR PAY THAT HOOKUP.

AND WHAT ARE THE CITIES GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO HELP PAY THAT HOOK UP? HOW DO YOU FINANCE IT OVER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS? WHO WANTS TO FINANCE A HOOK UP FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS? WANT TO DO THAT? SO YOU'VE GOT A SECOND MORTGAGE.

I MEAN, SO THIS IS THE SPOT WE IN.

I DON'T LIKE IT. I ADVOCATED WE SHOULD HAVE THAT COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE WENT AHEAD AND VOTED FOR THE SEWER HOOKUP.

BECAUSE WHEN THE ELECTRICITY GOES OUT.

YOU CAN'T. OH, YOU'RE SEPTIC TANK.

GO BACK. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN YOUR HOUSE.

I HAVE NO WATER.

IN. YOU KNOW, YOUR SEPTIC TANK IS BACKING UP.

THAT BECOMES EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE.

SO. I THINK WE NEED TO PASS THIS AND LOOK AT MANDATORY HOOKUPS OR HAVE A DISCUSSION OR COME UP WITH A PLAN TO HELP.

THE RESIDENTS WHO.

ONCE TO HOOK UP.

HOOK UP. I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

AND SINCE YOU WENT DOWN THAT ROAD, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I KNOW I'VE WORKED WITH OUR CITY MANAGER ON ON HOW DO WE ALLEVIATE THIS TO OUR RESIDENTS? AND IN PARTICULAR, I THINK IT WAS I'M NOT SURE.

WAS IT THE CITY OF ELLESMERE THIS PAST YEAR OR THE TOWN OF FAILS ME? THEY GOT THIS GREAT AGRICULTURAL GRANT.

I PASSED THAT INFORMATION ON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THEY COULD HAVE HAD ALL THEIR POPULATION HOOKED UP.

AND I THINK IF WE WERE TO GET THAT TYPE OF GRANT, WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO MANDATORY HOOK UP AND SPONSOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT.

SO I WAS LIKE REALLY INTRIGUED BY THAT.

AND I'VE ASKED THE EXCUSE ME, OUR CITY MANAGER, HEY, HOW CAN WE QUALIFY FOR THAT? BECAUSE AT THAT POINT I'M NOT SAYING TO A FAMILY OF FOUR THAT'S JUST STRUGGLING THAT THEY HAVE THE MANDATORY HOOK UP.

I'M SAYING YOU HAVE TO HOOK UP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE YOUR HOOKUP.

YOU HAVE TO YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY THE PAYMENT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

BUT I CAN SEE IT WORKING THAT WAY.

I JUST CAN'T YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SEE LIKE PERHAPS MASTER CHIEF BATTEN IS IN A BETTER POSITION TO DO THAT.

TO HOOK UP $25,000 IS IS PROBABLY THE GOING RATE NOW.

BUT, MAN, I GOT TO TELL YOU, I COULDN'T IN MY HEART DO THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

[01:55:04]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SUBSIDIZE IT OR PAY FOR FULLY OR GRANT OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO DO IT.

IF WE CAN'T DO WATER, DO SEWER, DO ONE OR THE OTHER TO HELP KEEP THESE RATES NOT INCREASING.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT.

I'M NOT SAYING A FAMILY SHOULD PAY THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS THAT HAPPY THAT.

SIR. I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR.

COPY THAT. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THE OTHER PART OF THE TEAM.

HAVE ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST ADD TO IT A STILL MEMBER OF A PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR BREVARD COUNTY, AND THIS ISSUE COMES UP A LOT, ESPECIALLY IN THE MERRITT ISLAND AREA.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID AND KIND OF THE BOARD APPROVED ON WAS IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO AN IMPROVEMENT TO YOUR PROPERTY, YOU'RE GOING TO HOOK UP TO WATER AND SEWER.

BUT AND THIS WORD AS COUNCIL COME IN DECIDING ON WHAT THAT IMPROVEMENT SHOULD BE FOR FOR THE FOR THE BROWARD COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, WE DECIDED IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE, BECAUSE EVERYONE UP THERE IN MERRITT ISLAND AND AND NORTH BREVARD, THEY'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO BECAUSE THEY LIVE ON RURAL, RESIDENTIAL AND A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S AN IDEA JUST TO THROW OUT THE COUNCIL AND TO THROW TO YOU ALL.

SO THANK YOU. THAT'S A THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION FOR FOR A WORKSHOP IN THE FUTURE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALL IN FAVOR.

I ALL OPPOSE PASSES 3 TO 2.

ITEM NUMBER FOR ORDINANCE 2020 298 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

[4. Ordinance 2022-98, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 202, Reclaimed Water, by adjusting the rates, fees, and charges for reclaimed water, first reading]

PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MR. MESSENGER.

MS.. SHERMAN. I THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS LAST ONE FOR THE UTILITIES IS CHAPTER 202, WHICH IS THE RATES FOR RECLAIMED WATER.

AND THESE RATES, BECAUSE THEY'RE A COMPONENT OF SEWER RATES, THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSED TO GO UP BY 3.75%, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW IN CHAPTER 200. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I NEED MOTION MOTION APPROVAL IN ITS 2022 DASH 98 FIRST READING SECOND.

AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

HEY SO THIS IS GOING UP THE RECLAIMED THE WATER, RIGHT.

AND SO DON'T WE GET A BENEFIT BY JUST PASSING THAT THAT RECLAIMED WATER TO THE RESIDENTS.

ISN'T THERE A BENEFIT TO THAT? I'LL LET CHRIS TALK TO THAT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE HELPING US OUT IS ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE? SO THERE IS A BENEFIT.

IT OFFSETS SOME POTABLE WATER USAGE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO TREAT THE WATER TO AN ADVANCED LEVEL WHICH COSTS MORE MONEY, MORE CHEMICALS, MORE FILTRATION WHEN IT GOES OUT.

SO WE MOST COMMUNITIES NOW LOOK AT RECLAIMED WATER AS A COMMODITY AND EVERYONE CHARGES FOR THAT WATER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. LITTLE WHILE HE'S WHILE HE'S UP HERE.

SO THE RATE INCREASE IS NOT THAT MUCH ON THE RECLAIMED WATER.

BUT I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND THE OPPOSE PASS IS 4 TO 1 ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

[5. Ordinance 2022-99, adopting the final budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023, first reading]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MESSENGER. MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS ALMOST THE LAST STEP IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

THIS IS SIMPLY THE FORMAL ADOPTION OF THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

GENTLEMEN, ANY QUESTIONS?

[02:00:03]

SEEING NONE.

I NEED A MOTION.

MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 99.

FIRST READING. SO I CAN GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING TO MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

MISS SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[6. Discussion of declaring critical need funding for Fiscal Year 2022-2023.]

UM, RELATED TO THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION REGARDING DECLARATION OF CRITICAL NEED.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY ONE ONE VOTE.

SO THAT WILL BE AT YOUR YOUR MEETING ON THE 21ST.

BUT JUST IN BRIEF, WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PREVIOUSLY AT OUR MEETINGS.

IN THE CHARTER, IT ALLOWS FOR THE DECISION BY THE COUNCIL AT A SUPERMAJORITY RATE TO EXCEED THE 3% CHARTER CAP FOR EITHER EMERGENCY OR CRITICAL NEEDS.

THE REASON THAT WE CHOSE TO BRING TO YOU A CRITICAL NEED REQUEST.

THIS PARTICULAR FISCAL YEAR HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT TONIGHT, BUT I'M GOING TO STATE A FEW OF THE REASONS ONCE AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD.

AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU WILL SEE FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT MEETING.

A LARGE PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE FACING TODAY ARE UNMET NEEDS, BOTH STAFFING AND INFRASTRUCTURE, VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAVE BUILT UP DURING A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE CITY HAS SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH BUT HAS NOT INVESTED HISTORICALLY.

TWO POINTS WERE MADE EARLIER AT THE RIGHT LEVEL TO KEEP PACE WITH THE DEMAND IN THE CITY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, A COUPLE OF THINGS WE MENTIONED IS THAT THE THE TEN YEAR POPULATION GROWTH RATE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS BEEN AT ABOUT 18.4%.

HOWEVER, A GENERAL FUND FULL TIME EMPLOYEE COUNT HAS ONLY INCREASED AROUND 6%.

OUR STAFFING OF POLICE OFFICERS IN COMPARISON TO THE CITY'S POPULATION GIVES US AN AVERAGE RATIO RIGHT NOW, AT ONE POINT, THREE EIGHT POLICE OFFICERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

STATE OF FLORIDA'S AVERAGE IS 2.33 POLICE OFFICERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

AS A RESULT, THAT PLACES US AT 241 OUT OF 246 POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THIS BUDGET INCLUDES INVESTMENTS IN ADDITIONAL OFFICERS TO TRY TO MOVE US.

AND WE TALKED LAST WEEK ABOUT A PATH TO ADD ADDITIONAL OFFICERS AND TO KEEP THAT AT A AT A AT A BETTER PACE THAN WE HAVE SEEN HISTORICALLY SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN THAT THAT CATCH UP PROCESS.

SIMILARLY, OUR CAN YOU JUST SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? THE AVERAGE RATIO IS 1.38 POLICE OFFICERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

THAT IS OUR CURRENT CALCULATION FOR US.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S AVERAGE IS 2.33 OFFICERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

SO WE ARE 241ST OUT OF 246 POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I DIDN'T. IT OF ITSELF IS A CRITICAL NEED.

CARRY ON, MA'AM. I'M SORRY.

YES, SIR. SIMILARLY WITH FIREFIGHTERS, OUR AVERAGE RATIO IS ABOUT 0.95 FIREFIGHTERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS 1.52 FIREFIGHTERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN INCREASING AND IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WE HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL STAFFING FOR THE FUTURE FIRE STATION SEVEN.

SO WE ARE TRACKING TOWARD ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE DISCUSSED THE FUNDING STRATEGY TO GET THAT STATION BUILT AS WELL.

ALL OF THIS SPEAKS TO THE NEED TO IMPROVE RESPONSE TIMES, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING IN FIRE STATIONS.

ADDITIONALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT OUR OUR NEW FIVE YEAR MASTER CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WE HAVE MADE AND WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE IS THE NEED TO INVEST IN IN OVERALL AND CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ESPECIALLY AS WAS MENTIONED IN VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS.

SO WE KNOW WE HAVE TO ADD NEW VEHICLES WHEN WE ADD NEW STAFF, POLICE OFFICERS, BUT WE HAVE NOT UNTIL THIS YEAR BUILT A A SOLID, ROBUST INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT'S BEEN PROPERLY FUNDED.

AND THAT'S A CRITICAL THING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, AND THIS WILL BE ONE OF MY LAST COMMENTS, IS THAT WE HAVE 150 VEHICLES AND PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE AT OR EXCEEDING THEIR USEFUL LIFE. AND THE VALUE OF THOSE ALONE WAS ABOUT $5 MILLION IN TODAY'S NUMBERS.

SO JUST A LOT OF CATCH UP THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO THAT WAS ALSO PART OF OUR DISCUSSION.

AND LASTLY, OF COURSE, THE THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROPERLY FUND ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE FUTURE.

WE HAVE A STRATEGY, AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

AND SO I THINK ALL THESE THINGS ARE ARE CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF OUR REASON FOR COMING TO THE CRITICAL NEED REQUEST.

[02:05:07]

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

SEE YOU NONE. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT.

ONLY. I THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST. WHAT SHOULD THE CITY MANAGER THIS EXPLAIN THIS WHAT I WAS JUST WAS MAKING MY POINT EARLIER.

I WAS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

EVERYBODY ON THIS DIAS INHERIT.

THESE CRITICAL NEEDS.

WE HAD LEADERSHIP.

NOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

IF THAT COUNCIL SHOWED LEADERSHIP, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE POSITION THAT WE ARE IN NOW.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

DO I LIKE INCREASING ANYTHING, THOUGH? I LIKE INCREASING TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES OR UTILITIES.

NO, I DON'T, BECAUSE I'M PAYING FOR IT.

I LIVE HERE IN PALM BAY JUST LIKE YOU DO.

AND NO. DO I WANT TO? NO, BUT I KNOW I WANT A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I WANT THEM TO RESPOND ON TIME.

IF I NEED THEM.

OR A FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER NEEDS THEM.

I WANT THEM TO RESPOND ON TIME.

I WANTED TO GET THERE SAFELY.

I WANT THEM TO. BLUE LIGHT AND SIREN GO DOWN OUR ROADS AND THE CAR DON'T.

FILL IN THE ROUTE TO A CALL.

I WANT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

TO BE THERE TO SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE, SAVE SOMEONE PROPERTY.

THESE ARE CRITICAL NEEDS AND AND OUR VEHICLES.

WE HAD A LAST COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE CHIEF SAID HE NEEDED 60 VEHICLES.

60 RIGHT NOW.

WE MADE A DECISION TO GET THEM MORE VEHICLES AND THAT WASN'T ENOUGH.

SO COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO TALKS ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIME AND HE'S RIGHT.

SPRINGTIME IS CRITICAL.

IT'S CRITICAL FOR EVERYBODY SAVING SOMEBODY'S LIFE.

SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE.

THIS IS WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR.

THIS IS WHAT ALL OF US SIGNED UP FOR TO MAKE THESE TOUGH DECISIONS.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE INHERITED WHEN WE GOT ELECTED INTO OFFICE.

SO WE GOT TO DO OUR JOB AND PLAN SMART AND INTO THE FUTURE.

SO WE CAN HAVE A CITY AND TO ATTRACT.

WE HAVE. YEAH, PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE.

IF THIS CITY STARTS TO FAIL.

PEOPLE WOULD BE LEAVING HERE ALSO.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, MAN. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE AN AVERAGE RATIO OF 1.38 POLICE OFFICERS PER 1000.

IF YOU ALL REMEMBER THE VISION BOARDS THAT I SHARED THOSE DOCUMENTS FROM BACK IN THE 90 AND THE GOAL WAS TO GET TO TWO.

TWO. WE'RE NOW AT THE NATIONAL AT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AVERAGE 2.38.

AND SO THIS IS A HUGE CRITICAL NEED.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN THAT GOAL WAS SET BEFORE US.

AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THE INTENT WAS TO DO, AS YOU SAY, COUNCILMAN FOSTERS TO TO PLAN A FUTURE OF GROWTH AND AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENRY.

AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THERE WAS A DISCONNECT.

AND AND SO I'M IN AGREEMENT.

WE DO NEED TO FIX THE DISPARITY.

AND I WANT TO HAVE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO INCLUDE OUR FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL, TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN PROTECT THE LIFE TO INCREASE OR TO MINIMIZE THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY OF SOMEONE OF US NOT GETTING TO HIM.

AT A TIME OF NEED.

AND EVEN IN OUR LAST MEETING, GENTLEMEN, WE HAD AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

THANK GOD CHIEF HOGUE WAS HERE AND RENDERED FIRST AID AND STATION NUMBER TWO JUST WAS JOHNNY ON THE SPOT COMING IN.

AND I THANK GOD THAT THAT ATTORNEY IS DOING WELL.

SO ALL THAT TO SAY IN THE DISCUSSION, I'M IN AGREEMENT THERE IS A HUGE CRITICAL NEED IN OUR CITY AND I'M ABOUT RECTIFYING THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL. CNN.

BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WANTED TO WELCOME MS..

THE MESSENGER, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.

[02:10:03]

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THAT'S.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.