Sep 14, 2022 Citizens' Budget Advisory Board

SO WITH THAT I WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING 2020 2-09 OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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RANDALL OLSZEWSKI BEAUCHAMP.

DON BITTER. ALBERTA CLINKSCALES PRESIDENT SUSAN CONLEY.

AND RICARDO MARTINEZ.

I DO. OKAY. ON THAT.

NATHAN WHITE PRESIDENT.

AND RANDALL I PROBABLY BUTCHERED.

HE DID. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

WE HAVE A QUORUM, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO I.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE HAVE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CURRENTLY.

OF COURSE, ANYBODY COME IN, WE'LL ENTERTAIN THEM AT THAT TIME BEFORE WE JUMP INTO NEW BUSINESS.

JUST LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEW BOARD MEMBER, MR. MARTINEZ. WELCOME.

NICE NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

AS MR. WOJCIECHOWSKI MENTIONED, WE HAVE A SOMEWHAT FULL HOUSE, SIX OUT OF SEVEN TONIGHT.

SO AWESOME TO SEE A CROWD.

MR. MARTINEZ, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO AND KIND OF INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT.

WHERE YOU LIVE AND WHERE ARE YOU FROM, WHAT? WHAT'S YOU'RE ABOUT, SO TO SPEAK, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU THINK, PERSON TO TAKE THE MONEY.

BUT MY NAME IS CONRADO MARTINEZ.

I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY OF PALM BAY, GRADUATED FROM PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL, EASTERN FLORIDA, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL BOYS AND THE WIFE, LINDA MARTINEZ.

AND I'M ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH THE YOUNGER PEOPLE TO TIE TOGETHER AND VARIOUS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS CURRENTLY MORTGAGE BROKER AND CITY HOME VISION MORTGAGE AND JUST LOOKING TO LEARN AND SEE HOW I COULD EXPAND MY TOOL KIT TO HELP THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.

WELL, AWESOME. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, SIR.

WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE WITH US.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID AND BEING A FULL BOARD FULLY ROSTERED, OUR FIRST ORDER OF NEW BUSINESS IS THE ELECTION OF A VICE CHAIR.

[1. Election of Vice Chair.]

I THINK IT WAS ABOUT MARCH FROM THE VICE CHAIR POSITION.

I HAVEN'T FILLED SINCE SO ONE TO ELECT THE VICE CHAIR.

AND AT THAT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS TAKE A NOMINATION AND THEN IF THERE'S A SECOND TO IT, WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THAT NOMINATION WITH A SECOND AND TAKE IT TO A VOTE.

SO DO I HEAR ANY NOMINATIONS? NOMINATE SUZANNE CONNOLLY.

I WOULD SECOND THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING READY TO SAY.

ALL, BUT. BUT HE.

SO WE HAD WE WE DID HAVE A NOMINATION AND A SECOND NOMINATION BY MR. WHITE, SECONDED BY MS.. CLINKSCALES, FOR MS..

CONNELLY TO BE THE VICE CHAIR.

BEFORE I BRING THAT TO A VOTE TO HAVE A BIT OF DISCUSSION, I'LL ASK MS..

CONNELLY DIRECTLY. MS.. CONNELLY, WOULD YOU RATHER NOT ASSUME THE ROLE OR DO YOU HAVE A NOMINEE IN MIND? LET'S HEAR FROM YOU.

LET ME ASK A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

DOES THAT POSITION NATURALLY.

YES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO.

HE'LL. PLEAD.

AND. I HAVE A NOMINATION BY CHANCE.

THEY? ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAD ONE FROM MR. WHITE, SECONDED BY MS.. CLINKSCALES, BUT WE'VE ALL HEARD MS..

CONLEY WOULD RATHER NOT.

SO LET'S GO WITH BOARD.

WE'LL LET THAT ONE DIE.

BUT I DO HEAR A NOMINATION FROM MS..

CONLEY FOR MR. WHITE. DO I HEAR A SECOND TO THAT? I WAS SECOND FROM MS..

CLINKSCALES, AND NOW MS..

CONNELLY NOMINATED SECOND BY MS..

CLINKSCALES FOR MR. WHITE. ANY DISCUSSION OR FOR THE NOMINATION? THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING.

SO. YES.

YES, YES. OKAY.

SO WE'LL BRING THAT TO A VOTE FOR.

OH, I HAVE SHE HAS A DISCUSSION.

GO AHEAD. DISCUSSION.

I WANTED TO MISS THE WHITE.

IF HE COULD TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIMSELF.

I KNOW I'M NEW TO THIS BOARD.

THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR.

SO I'M STILL LEARNING AS WELL.

BUT I WANT IT TO BECAUSE I REMEMBER YOUR FACE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.

SO CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE? SURE. SURE.

WELL, YES, THE THE OBVIOUS PART FIRST, MY NAME IS NATHAN WHITE.

I'M A PALM BAY NATIVE, BORN HERE, RAISED HERE.

I GREW UP IN NORTHWEST PALM BAY.

IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT LITTLE DAYCARE IS, IF YOU WERE ON YOUR WAY TO DISCOVERY ELEMENTARY.

RIGHT BASICALLY BEHIND THAT.

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MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT OUR FIRST HOUSE.

COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, HALF YEARS AGO NOW IN SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.

AND WE INTEND TO STAY.

WE BOTH GREW UP HERE.

LOVE IT. WHAT DO YOU DO PROFESSIONALLY? PROFESSIONALLY, I'M THE MANAGER OF A UPS STORE, NOT ACTUALLY THE ONE IN PALM BAY, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT OWNER CARL PARKER, HE'S A GREAT GUY.

I ACTUALLY RUN THE UPS STORE IN ROCKLAND.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANKS AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ONLY I HAVE A COMMENT.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS I THOUGHT OF NATHAN WHITE.

AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

RUNNING. I HAVE WATCHED HIM STUDY THE BUDGET.

I HAVE WATCHED. REALLY PREPARE.

DIFFICULT JOB. THOSE OF US THAT ALSO.

I. BUT.

THAT I FEEL LIKE OUR CITY AND OUR CITY.

PREPARED FOR THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DON'T MAKE ME CRY. THERE'S A CAMERA.

THE ONLY THING IS RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BOARD? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. I.

ALL RIGHT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MR. WHITE IS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD.

SO NEW BUSINESS.

[2. Review of the budget at current tentative millage rate.]

SO. WE'VE HAD A FEW ITERATIONS OF THE BUDGET, BUT THE LATEST AND WE'RE THROUGH THE FIRST PUBLIC NOT WORKSHOP AT HEARING, SO TO SPEAK, AT THE MILLAGE RATE OF 7.5995.

SO THAT BUDGET HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO GET THAT BUDGET ELECTRONICALLY AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TO AND SO ON AND SO FORTH? SO AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE MET AS A BOARD AND AT THAT A WHILE IN THE PROCESS, WE HAVEN'T REALLY MET SINCE THE DECISION TO BE AT THAT MILLAGE RATE WAS MADE AND THEREFORE HAVEN'T MET SINCE A BUDGET THAT EXISTED AT THAT MILLAGE RATE HAS HAS BEEN OUT.

SO I IMAGINE THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION POINTS, SOME CURIOSITY POINTS, THINGS OF THE SORT.

SO LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JUMP OUT WITH GENERAL COMMENTS, INQUIRIES, THINGS OF THE SORT.

AS CALMLY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS ADVISORY BOARD COUNSEL.

MADE A RECOMMENDATION.

CHURCH. AND THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED.

THE COUNCIL DECIDED I DID HAVE MY FINGER ON IT BUT MADE A DIFFERENT CHOICE.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET AND THE CHANGES, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

BECAUSE IT WILL BE.

UH. IT.

I BELIEVE WE WILL BE ASKED QUESTIONS.

REPRESENTATIVES. IN SERVICE TO THE CITY.

IS CONNOLLY. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO JUMP IN? SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO EVENTUALLY. WHY NOT BE NEXT? THANKS, GALS. ACTUALLY STILL REVIEWING.

AS YOU KNOW, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF A CAP INCREASE.

I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE CURRENT.

AT. AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CAP HELPS WITH SHORTAGES IN THE BUDGET AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT I KNOW THAT ARCA FUNDS AND OTHER FUNDS HAVE COME THROUGH TO THE CITY.

THE CITY HAS HAD SOME INCREASED.

AS I'M STILL REVIEWING, AS I'M HIGHLIGHTING AND GOING THROUGH THINGS, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T I'M NOT READY TO TO.

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I MEAN, IF WE HAD TO TAKE I THINK WE ALREADY VOTED.

WE ALREADY MADE A DECISION SINCE OUR DECISION.

SO THAT MEETING I WASN'T HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE SHE WOULD HAVE VOTED NOT TO HAVE A CAP INCREASE, BUT.

THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO REVIEW WHAT I'M REVIEWING AND.

MOVE FORWARD. ABSOLUTELY NOTED.

AND JUST JUST TO CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE CLARIFY FOR UNDERSTANDING, SO TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REVIEWING THE BUDGET, BUT HAD YOU BEEN AT THAT AT THAT MEETING, YOUR CHOICE, YOU'RE SAYING, IS THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE EXCEEDING THE CAP AND GOING TO THE RATE THAT WE LANDED ON OF THE 7.5995 OR THAT YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

HE'S CALLING. THAT IS WHAT I HAD INTENDED TO SAY SAY EARLIER.

IS THAT.

FOR ME, IT'S IMPORTANT AS A CITIZEN AND IN SERVICE TO THIS.

POURED INTO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE UNDERSTAND DEFINITION OF CRITICAL NEED THAT IS JUSTIFICATION THAT THEY DID NOT.

EXCEPT OUR.

AT OUR RECOMMENDATION.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE AS CITIZENS SUPPORT.

UNDERSTAND IT THAT THOSE TWO TOGETHER.

SUPPORTED, BUT.

I UNDERSTAND THE REASON OR.

EXCEEDING THE CAP SAID.

I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING TOO, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CRITICAL NEED.

I THINK IN ALL OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS WE ALWAYS HAVE CRITICAL NEEDS AS WELL.

BUT WE ALSO LEARN HOW TO LIVE IN A BUDGET.

WE ALSO WE HAVE IMPACT FEES.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, NEW PEOPLE THAT WILL COME.

AND I JUST THINK THAT WE COULD.

I UNDERSTAND CRITICAL NEEDS.

SO I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY FOR THE CITY TO STILL OPERATE AND NOT HAVE TO EXCEED THE CAP THAT WAS VOTED ON BY MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE DIALOG AND FEEDBACK.

MR. MARTINEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY INITIAL FEEDBACK AS YOU AS YOU'RE COMING INTO THE PROCESS AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, JUST EVEN IF IT'S A QUESTION OF WHERE WE'RE AT SO WE CAN HELP YOU GET ORIENTED, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT TRAIN, WHAT CAR ON THE TRAIN, SO TO SPEAK.

I APPRECIATE IT. I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD IS LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS.

IS THERE A FACTOR FOR INFLATION? BUT IS THERE THAT COMPONENT FACTORED IN? BIG. REFERENCE TO.

AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO STAFF FOR AN OFFICIAL ANSWER, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY ANSWER FROM A CITIZEN'S POINT OF VIEW, AND THAT'S IN A COMPARATIVE WAY.

SO WHEN THE WHEN THE CAP ON REVENUE YEAR OVER YEAR WAS ESTABLISHED, IT WAS ESTABLISHED AT A 3%.

I WOULD SAY THAT AT THAT TIME I INTERPRETED IT 3% TO BE ROUGHLY THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.

EVERYBODY, THAT'S HOW THINGS GO UP ROUGHLY 3%.

AND WE ALL SEE A HOPEFULLY A 3% MERIT.

KNOW WE ALL LIVED IN A 3% WORLD.

BUT THERE IS ANOTHER CAP IN THE IN THE WORLD, IN THE ATMOSPHERE, SO TO SPEAK, THAT'S RELATABLE AND THAT'S BREVARD COUNTIES.

AND BREVARD COUNTY IS ACTUALLY HAS A CAVEAT THAT TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX AND RELATES THINGS TO THAT.

OURS DOES NOT. SO OURS COMES IN AT THAT 3% AND DOESN'T HAVE AN ACCOMMODATION TO SAY SIX IF THINGS ARE HIGHER OR NINE IF THINGS ARE HIGHER, AS WE SAW WHAT THE CPI HAS BEEN RECENTLY WITH INFLATION.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT AS A CITIZEN, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I SEE IT, SO TO SPEAK, STUCK AT 3%, WHICH IN THE PAST HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE PERSONALLY SPOKEN ABOUT, IS THAT I DO LIKE THE CAP IN THE FACT THAT IT'S HOLDING US BACK, BUT SOMETIMES IT COULD BE THOUGHT TO BE UNREALISTIC IF IF IT DOESN'T KEEP UP WITH, WITH THINGS. SO I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT DIALOG TO TO ADJUST FOR THAT DEFINITELY HAD MERITS BUT OURS DOES NOT HAVE THAT.

SO I JUST TO TURN OVER TO THE PROFESSIONALS TO ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM ANYTHING THERE.

MR. COLLINS. YES.

SO THE 3% DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE FACTOR OF INFLATION.

IT CAME AFTER IT WAS IMPLEMENTED, BUT IT WAS SORT OF MODELED AFTER WHAT BREVARD COUNTY DID.

BREVARD COUNTY DOES HAVE A CAVEAT WHERE IN THEIR AGREEMENT OR IN THEIR CHARTER, IT INDICATES THAT IT'S CPI OR 3%, WHICHEVER IS LOWER.

SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHICHEVER IS HIGHER.

SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY IF CPI WAS ONE AND ONE HALF PERCENT THAN THEIR CAP WOULD BE ONE AND A HALF VERSUS THREE AND WE JUST HAVE THREE.

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NEW CONSTRUCTION IS EXCLUDED FOR THE FIRST YEAR, BUT THEN AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR, ALL OF THAT VALUATION FALLS ONTO THE TAX ROLL AND IT'S SUBJECTED TO THE 3%.

SO IT ESSENTIALLY IS 3% HARD NUMBER BASED ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR REVENUE THAT'S TAKEN IN.

SO WHEN WE'RE CALCULATING 23 NUMBERS, WHICH THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO START, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 22.

FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING.

NOW I WANTED TO ASK.

SO JUST UNDERSTANDING THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO IF THE VALUATIONS OF THE PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS THOSE INCREASE IN THE COUNTY TAKES IN MORE PROPERTY TAXES, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHAT WE CAN GET BACK OUT OF THAT IS JUST 3%? THAT'S HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING.

THAT IS HOW IT WORKS.

SO REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS.

OF COURSE, THE FIRST YEAR IS EXCLUDED.

SO IF WE BRING IN $1 BILLION WORTH OF NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT FIRST YEAR, THAT IT HITS THE TAX ROLL, IT'S NOT SUBJECTED TO THE 3%, BUT THEN THE SECOND YEAR DOES.

BUT YES, IN A NUTSHELL, LET'S SAY WE STOP CONSTRUCTION, WHICH I KNOW IS NOT REALISTIC, BUT WE STOP CONSTRUCTION ALTOGETHER.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS THAT IS ESSENTIALLY HITTING THE TAX ROLL FROM THE FROM THE COUNTY.

AND WE'RE JUST GOING BY CURRENT CURRENT RESIDENTS CURRENT VALUATIONS ON THE BOOKS.

SO WE COULD HAVE A VERY FEW HEALTHY YEARS WHERE YOUR PROPERTY VALUATIONS ARE SKYROCKETING.

WE'VE ALL SEEN IT REGARDLESS.

I THINK OF WHAT COUNTY OR WHAT CITY YOU LIVE IN.

IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY NOT MATTER BECAUSE THE CITY WILL BE RESTRICTED FROM GENERATING REVENUE OFF THAT VALUATION. SO WE ESSENTIALLY SET WOULD PER THE CHARTER, UNLESS THERE'S A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR TAXES OR OUR REVENUE AND THE INDIVIDUAL TAXES TO THAT RESTRICTION.

SO THE CITY ESSENTIALLY DOES NOT BENEFIT OFF VALUATION INCREASES BECAUSE THE CHARTER.

WELL, HOW WOULD THE CITY, IF THE LIKE THE INCREASE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW, IS THAT GOING TO COME FROM AN ADDITIONAL TAX THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, CITY LEVEL? OR IS IT GOING TO BE GENERATED BY SOME FORMULA FROM THE COUNTY LEVEL? NO. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL, ESSENTIALLY THE RATE THAT THAT WE'RE SETTING IT AT IS JUST LIKE HOW ALL OTHER TAXING AUTHORITIES IN THE COUNTY DO IT.

AND IT IS ESSENTIALLY APPLIED TO THE VALUATION OF YOUR HOME AS OF ITS, SAY, DECEMBER 31ST.

BUT IT'S ACTUALLY JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR OF WHATEVER THE PROPERTY VALUATION SAYS.

AND SO IT IS A MULTIPLIER EFFECT.

SO YOUR TAXES FOR THAT PARTICULAR TAXING AUTHORITY, SO IF YOU HAVE YOUR TAX BILL AND YOU ESSENTIALLY GO THROUGH IT AND YOU FIND THE CITY OF PALM BAY, YOU'LL SEE THE CURRENT AND THEN THE FUTURE, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE YOUR JUST THAT RATE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY CHANGE. AND EVEN THOUGH THE RATE ISN'T CHANGING THE NUMBERS, IT'S IF YOUR VALUATION OF YOUR HOME GOES UP, THEN NATURALLY, IF YOU'RE KEEPING THE RATE OR JUST YOUR PROPERTY TAX PORTION, JUST FOR THE CITY WOULD INCREASE IF WE WERE TO LOWERED IT.

IT JUST IT JUST DECREASES.

SO IT'S NOT A SEPARATE WAY.

IT'S JUST THE FORMULA.

FORMULA CHANGES AND THIS IS HOW TAXING AUTHORITIES DO IT FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

SO IF BREVARD COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SCHOOL BOARD, SCHOOL BOARD IS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE THEY JUST HAD THEIR HEARING, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO REDUCE THEIR RATE.

SO AS YOU SEE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD SIDE, THAT PORTION OF YOUR TOTAL TAX FOR THE THE SCHOOL BOARD IS ACTUALLY REDUCING.

SO YOUR BOTTOM LINE, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ON YOUR TAX BILL.

WELL, THANK YOU. SUCH A GOOD TEACHER.

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CATCHING. TO.

WELL. SO THE CAP, ESSENTIALLY.

IT RESTRICTS THE CITY FROM INCREASING THEIR.

EVENTUALLY INCREASING YOUR PROPERTY, PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE'RE GENERATING AS WE ARE RESTRICTED TO A 3% IN TOTAL. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 3% NECESSARILY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER.

BUT AS A TOTAL OF WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN, IT IS 3%.

SO IF HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, VALUATIONS GO UP 10% FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, SO YOU SEE THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME INCREASE BY TEN THE CITY.

A BASIC WAY DOESN'T SEE A 10% AS WE ARE CAPPED AT THREE.

SO THERE IS ESSENTIALLY FROM THE CITY SIDE OF REVENUE LOSS OF 7%.

THAT'S HOW THAT IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, THAT'S THE BASIC WAY TO UNDERSTAND IT.

UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN.

PROPERTY VALUATIONS AND REVENUE ALSO KIND OF KIND OF INTERSECTS WITH.

PATIENT DAYS. ITS HIGH PRICES ARE.

JUST KEEP FROM COMING CLOSE TO WHAT THEY CALL.

ECONOMY OVERALL. RIGHT.

AND WELL, AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE CITY ALSO CONTROLS HOW MUCH ESSENTIALLY, IF THERE WASN'T A 3% CAP, TAXING AUTHORITIES DO HAVE A CONTROL OF HOW MUCH THEY TAX.

THAT IS WHAT OUR JOB IS.

SO EVEN IF INFLATION WERE TO INCREASE BY 10%, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CITY INCREASES TAXES BY THAT AMOUNT.

WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE STATE ON HOW MUCH WE'RE CAPPED ON AS WELL.

BUT IN A NUTSHELL, TAXED.

THAT'S WHAT TAXING AUTHORITIES DO IS IS THAT THEY ADJUST THEIR RATES TO LOOK AT REVENUE, TO COME IN TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY NEED TO OPERATE. WE JUST HAVE THAT EXTRA LAYER OF YOU CAN'T TAKE IN MORE THAN 3% WHILE A TAXING AUTHORITY OF OUR NEIGHBORING TAXING AUTHORITY IS ABLE TO.

IN A FIT OFF OF THE GROWTH OF THE VALUE OF HOMES WHILE WE WE ARE, BUT WE'RE NOT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT, I.

I GUESS I GO BACK TO AS I'M REVIEWING.

DEFINITELY. I'LL HAVE IT FINISHED BEFORE THE SECOND HEARING, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE I GUESS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CRITICAL NEEDS, LIKE WHAT'S CRITICAL? I WAS LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION AND SOMEBODY SOMEBODY WHO CAME TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING TALKED ABOUT A NEW CITY HALL BUILDING.

I MEAN, ANY STUFF LIKE THAT TO ME IS NOT CRITICAL NEED BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUILDING.

SO TO TO SHIFT COURSES TO RESIDENTS WHO HAVE ALSO JUST COME THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WHO WHO, WHO, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE REALLY STRUGGLING.

I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A GOOD USE UNTIL WE REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE CRITICAL NEEDS ARE.

IS ARE THEY REALLY CRITICAL OR ARE THEY JUST SOME ONCE SOME ONCE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SO THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY TRYING TO REVIEW IT IN DETAIL TO SEE WHERE THESE CRITICAL NEEDS LIE.

AND WHAT ARE THEY? YES. SO IF YOU ACTUALLY WATCH THE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING PRIOR TO THAT, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, PATRICIA SMITH, AND IT WAS DETERMINED WHAT THE DEFINITION OF CRITICAL NEED WAS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IT WAS ACTUALLY THE IT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO READ THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

SO SHE COVERED THE CRITICAL NEEDS DURING THAT TIME.

AND ALSO AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL SEE A RESOLUTION COME THROUGH, WHICH IS AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT THAT OUTLINES THE ADOPTION OF A CRITICAL NEED, AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY OUTLINES WHAT THOSE ARE.

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BUILDING, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

IT'S ACTUALLY A FOCUS ON PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS POLICE AND FIRE, AS OUR FIRE CHIEF AND OUR POLICE CHIEF PULLED DATA ON ACTUAL STAFFING COMPARISONS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY COMPARED TO THE STATE AND ALSO RESPONSE TIME, WHICH IF IF YOU WATCH THE MEETING,

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YOU WILL SEE WHAT THEY BASE THE DECISION OF CRITICAL NEED ON.

IT WAS NOT IN THIS IT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET PACKET THAT I HAVE.

IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THOSE DECISIONS WERE DONE AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS AND WORKSHOPS AND WE DID HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS ASK WHAT THE DEFINITION OF THAT WAS.

AND OUR CITY MANAGER, SUZANNE SHERMAN, DID COORDINATE WITH THE WITH THE HOUR.

SO WHERE DO I GET THAT? WHERE'S THAT AT? SO WE CAN WE CAN REVIEW IT.

NOW, I HAVE THE NUMBERS UP, BUT IT IS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING WHEN THE PREVIOUS ONE IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, IT IS REVIEWED WHAT THOSE WHAT THOSE CRITICAL NEED ITEMS WERE. AND THEN IT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED AT ONE OF THE PREVIOUS BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

THANK YOU, MISS COLLINS. AND THANK YOU, MISS CLINKSCALES.

MR. WHITE RAISED HIS HAND FOR AN ANGRY MISS BEAUCHAMP.

YOU HAVE ONE AS WELL. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO COME TO BOTH HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

I JUST WANT TO, BEFORE WE SWING THE CONVERSATION, HIGHLIGHT THAT THE PROPOSITION HERE IS THAT WE PROCESS THE BUDGET DOCUMENT THAT YOU DO HAVE BEFORE YOU.

MS.. CLINKSCALES THROUGH THE LENS OF THE PALATABILITY THAT'S FRAMED UP IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT MS..

COLLINS IS REFERRING TO. SO WHEN YOU HEAR MS..

SHERMAN DECLARE THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT, THE OFFICIAL PROPOSITION HERE IS THAT WE TAKE THAT EXACT REASONING THAT'S READ AND THAT'LL BE WRITTEN IN THE ORDINANCE AND THEREFORE IMPLEMENT THAT BUDGET THAT YOU READ.

SO WHEN YOU REVIEW THAT AND WHEN YOU REVIEW THOSE NUMBERS, LET THOSE ENDS CONNECT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE PROPOSITION.

BUT THE DISCUSSION HERE IS ONE IN THE PALATABILITY OF THAT, BUT ALSO TO JUST IN THE FINE NUMBERS.

SO SWING IT OVER HERE.

AND MR. WHITE, I SAW YOUR HAND FIRST, BUT MS..

BEAUCHAMP WILL CERTAINLY COME TO YOU NEXT.

SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK, SIR.

NOW, THE FIRST THING IS I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON YOU WERE REFERENCING, SPEAKING AT THE MEETING, TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING, I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ME AND MY.

SO I FELT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CLARIFY MY MEANING IN A PIECE OF THAT, BECAUSE I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TELL ME THAT MY WORDING WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

IT'S NOT, AS SOME PEOPLE INTERPRETED FROM MY WORDS, IS NOT A NEW CITY HALL BUILDING.

IT'S A NEW CITY BUILDING.

IT WOULDN'T BE A NEW CITY HALL, SO TO SPEAK, BUT A NEW CITY BUILDING BUILDING.

E SO THAT THAT WAS SOME CONFUSION.

I HAD SOME PEOPLE RESPONDING AND BEING LIKE, THERE'S BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL.

WE HAVE A CITY HALL. I'M LIKE, I'M SO SORRY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT. BUT YEAH.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, CLARIFYING THAT IT'S A CITY BUILDING, BUT IT'S NOT A NEW CITY HALL, SO TO SPEAK.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED, THE CRITICAL NEED, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IN THE CRITICAL NEED BEING PUBLIC SAFETY IN REGARDS TO FIRE SERVICES AND FIRE RESPONSE TIME.

BECAUSE AS IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE SECTIONS OF PALM BAY WITH A RESPONSE TIME OF TEN OR SO MINUTES, WHICH IS 2 MINUTES OUTSIDE OF THE WORST END OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, DESIRED RESPONSE TIME OF 4 TO 8 MINUTES, OBVIOUSLY FOR BEING THE MOST DESIRABLE OR FASTER.

AND THAT THAT IS REALLY THE CORE OF THE OF THE CRITICAL NEED ASPECT.

AND IN JUSTIFICATION, THEY'RE NOT BUILDING E NEW CITY BUILDING.

THAT'S NOT THE CRITICAL NEED.

BUT THE ISSUE THAT I TAKE THERE IS THAT.

MONEY IS A LOT OF MONEY IS STILL GOING TO BUILDING.

NOW THAT WAS ELIGIBLE IS ELIGIBLE TECHNICALLY STILL FOR USE TOWARDS OUR FIRE SAFETY SERVICES.

OF THE ARPA FUNDS, $10 MILLION COULD HAVE BEEN USED OR WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR USE TOWARDS THE FIRE SAFETY.

AND $7 MILLION OF THAT $10 MILLION IS GOING TOWARDS BUILDING IT.

SO TO ME, THAT'S.

THE TERM ESCAPES ME, BUT THAT'S KIND OF A.

CAUSING YOUR OWN PROBLEM AND THEN ASKING SOMEONE ELSE TO FIX IT.

IF FIRE SAFETY IS THE REAL CRITICAL NEED NOT NOT BUILDING E, THEN WHY DID THE MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE GO TOWARDS BUILDING E INSTEAD OF FIRE SAFETY? WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, ABOUT $4 MILLION OR SO TO BUILD A FIRE STATION.

THAT'S A HEFTY NUMBER, BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN TWO FIRE STATIONS AND WE'RE THREE SHORT.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO THIRDS OF THE PROBLEM SOLVED RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT IS THAT IS PART OF THE ISSUE I TAKE THERE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT, WE CAN.

IN MY OPINION, WITH THIS KIND OF A SITUATION, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE DISREGARDING THE WILL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO VOTED IN THAT CAP BECAUSE IT WAS VOTED IN BY A DRAMATIC MAJORITY, I THINK WAS CLOSE TO TO 70% OR AROUND 70% OF VOTE APPROVAL.

SO TO TO BREAK THAT CAP SAYING CRITICAL NEED.

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EXCEPT YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THE FIRE BECAUSE YOU PUT IT TOWARDS THE BUILDING.

WELL, THEN WHY DIDN'T WE PUT IT TOWARDS FIRE? AND THEORETICALLY, WE STILL COULD.

IT WOULD BE A PAINFUL PROCESS, SO TO SPEAK, CONSIDERING IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED, BUT IT'S NOT BEEN SPENT.

BUT, I MEAN, I ASKED I ASKED COUNCIL ABOUT THAT, AND I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER.

THAT'S KIND OF MY MY ISSUE THERE.

BUT I'LL CUT MYSELF OFF BECAUSE I HAVE A TENDENCY TO RAMBLE AND.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE.

MISS BEAUCHAMP, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUMP IN HERE? I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD IN REGARDS TO THE CRITICAL NEED, I JUST REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE TALKING AND DISCUSSING THE BUDGET AND OUR RECOMMENDATION, I JUST WANTED HER TO KNOW BECAUSE SHE WASN'T AT THAT MEETING.

WE WERE ALL DIVIDED BECAUSE WE TWO FELT THE SAME WAY AS YOU.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND LIKE YOU SAID, WITH THE FIRE SAFETY, I WAS JUST APPALLED TO KNOW THAT OUR DISPATCH WAS DONE IN ROCKLEDGE AND NOT HERE.

I WAS EVEN MORE APPALLED TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE OUT IN BAYSIDE HAVE TO WAIT 10 TO 12 MINUTES AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, NOT HAVING A FIRE STATION WITHIN FIVE MILES WILL INCREASE THEIR PROPERTY INSURANCE.

SO I CAN ACTUALLY REASONABLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DECIDED TO BREAK THE, YOU KNOW, THE CAP.

BUT JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAVE THE MONEY.

SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO AND TAKE MORE REVENUE WHEN WE CAN JUST REALLOCATE REVENUE? WE HAVE AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS A PAINFUL PROCESS.

BUT HONESTLY, WE ARE ALREADY IN A PAINFUL PROCESS.

WE ALREADY HAVE NEEDS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.

WE ALREADY KNOW OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS CYBER SECURITY IS WELL OUTDATED.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON A DA SYSTEM, WHICH IS.

BEYOND ME WHILE WE'RE STILL DOING THAT.

I MEAN, WE'RE STILL GETTING HACKED FOR UTILITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO FOR ME, I FEEL JUST LIKE HE FAILED.

I THINK WE SHOULD SNATCH THE BAND-AID AND BE UNCOMFORTABLE AND ALLOCATE AND USE THE MONEY WHERE WE SHOULD BE USING IT.

VERSUS, LIKE HE SAID, IT'S GOING 7 MILLION.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THAT MUCH GOING TO BUILD ANY WIND.

HONESTLY, FIRE SAFETY.

THEY STILL NEED A FIRE ENGINE.

THEY ONLY GOT THE ONE AND SHE GOT THAT THROUGH GRANT MONEY.

IT'S NOT EVEN MONEY FROM US.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING.

AND THEN JUST A COMMENT OR TWO.

THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.

EVERYTHING HE SAID THERE. AND IT'S IT'S WORTH IT'S WORTH GIVING A SHOUT OUT TO CHIEF THE FIRE CHIEF HOGUE.

OH. FOR SOME REASON, MY BRAIN WANTS TO SAY HEY OCCASIONALLY, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT CORRECT, BUT I STOPPED, SO I STOPPED MYSELF.

BUT CHIEF HOGG AND HER WORK IN GETTING THOSE GRANTS, IT IS IMPRESSIVE.

IT IS THE AMOUNT, THE TIMING.

IT IS IT IS INCREDIBLE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WORTH A SHOUT OUT.

NOW. THANK YOU, MR. WHITE AND MS.. BEAUCHAMP.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO JUMP IN WITH WHAT KIND OF MY OWN FEELINGS, BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF RESPONSE AND ADDITION AND SUPPLEMENT TO SOME THINGS I HEARD.

AND REALLY WHAT'S STICKING OUT IS JUST WHAT I HEARD MOST RECENTLY ABOUT.

AND WE HAVE IT HERE. WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DIVE DEEPER ONTO IT IN NEW BUSINESS FOR TO DISCUSS THE ARPA FUNDS AND WHERE THEY'RE ALLOCATED.

BUT I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PRACTICAL LENS, THE HOUSEHOLD LENS OF, OF MOST OF US GOT IN IN THE MIDST OF COVID, YOU KNOW, STIMULUS MONEY AND WE ALL CHOSE TO SPEND THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CHOSE TO SPEND IT AT THE TIME, AND MOST OF US PROBABLY SPENT IT HOW WE NEEDED TO SPEND IT AT THE TIME.

AND IT WAS A RESULT OF.

CRAZY WORLD WE WERE IN.

AND THAT'S WHAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS CHOSE, WAS TO SEND US ALL THAT MONEY AND SEE WHAT.

THEN IT GOES TO DO THE SAME THING ALL THE WAY UP TO OUR MUNICIPALITY AND OUR MUNICIPALITY, OUR LITTLE CITY OF PALM BAY.

$18 MILLION, $18 MILLION.

THEY SAID COVID HAPPENED, BROKE THE ECONOMY.

BROKE YOUR ECONOMY.

HERE'S $18 MILLION.

FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX IT, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, SOME LESS RESTRICTIVE, SOME MORE RESTRICTIVE THINGS.

SO, AGAIN, IF MENTALLY IF I, AS YOU KNOW, TOOK MY STIMULUS MONEY AND PUT IT IN MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND SAID THAT'S TO ADD ON MY MOTHER IN LAW SUITE TO MY HOUSE.

AND I REALLY NEED A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE BECAUSE MY MOTHER IN LAW CAME AND MOVED FROM SOME OTHER STATE IN THE MIDST OF COVID BECAUSE WE'RE IN FLORIDA AND EVERYONE WANTS TO COME HERE AND I JUST KEEP THAT MONEY IN THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT MY MY WATER SYSTEM, BECAUSE MOST FOLKS IN PALM BAY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CITY WATER, SO AREN'T EVEN ON IT. SO LET'S JUST SAY I'M NOT ON CITY WATER AND MY WATER SYSTEM OUTSIDE GOES AND I'M JUST I'M NOT TAKING CARE OF THAT.

AND IT'S IT'S IT'S BAD.

AND I HAVE NO POTABLE WATER IN MY HOUSE FOR MY KID, MY WIFE, MY MOTHER IN LAW THAT MOVED IN.

I'M JUST SITTING ON THIS MOTHER IN LAW SUITE MONEY, THOUGH, BECAUSE I GOT TO BUILD HER THIS MOTHER IN LAW SUITE ONE DAY.

AND, RANDALL, WE HAVE NO WATER TO DRINK.

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I GOT TO FIX THIS.

I GOT TO FIX THIS.

SO THEN I SAY I NEED MORE MONEY.

I TELL MY WIFE, I SAID, HONEY, YOU GOT TO GET YOU GOT TO GET A PART TIME JOB.

WE NEED MORE REVENUE. WE GOT TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE INTO THE HOUSE BECAUSE I'VE GOT TO PAY FOR THIS WATER SYSTEM.

AND ALL THE WHILE I'M SITTING ON MY MOTHER IN LAW, SWEET MONEY, AND I LOVE MY MOTHER IN LAW.

AND I WANT TO BUILD HER MOTHER IN LAW SUITE ONE DAY.

RIGHT. BUT.

I GOT TO COME OFF OF IT.

I GOT TO FIX WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

I GOT TO FIX THIS WATER SYSTEM.

I GOT TO GET MY FAMILY DRINK OF POTABLE WATER.

SO THAT'S HOW I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT THESE ARPA FUNDS AND WHY IT'S ALWAYS JUST TASTE ME TO TO TALK ABOUT EXCEEDING THE CAP.

RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW IN THIS ATMOSPHERE.

AND I'VE ALWAYS FELT AS THOUGH THAT THE REASON THAT THE CONVERSATION IS SO PREVALENT IS THE POTENTIAL MISSED OPPORTUNITY BY NOT EXCEEDING THE CAP.

AND CAPTURING THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GREAT.

AND I THINK THAT THE NUMBERS SHOWING ON THIS BUDGET DO SHOW THAT, BECAUSE IF THEY DO HAVE SHARE THE REVENUE THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOME THINGS DONE.

BUT THIS IS WHAT HANGS UP ON ME.

RANDALL THE CITIZEN IS MY PROPOSED TAX BILL, WHICH CRAZY ENOUGH, I FORGOT TO BRING IT.

BUT I NOTICE MR. WHITE BROUGHT HIS.

I'M PROUD OF YOU, SIR. I HOPE EVERYONE ELSE HAS THEIRS, TOO.

BUT I RAN. I RAN ALL MY PERCENTAGES, AND I TALKED ABOUT THEM AT THE AT THE WORKSHOP.

AND JUST TO SAY THAT THAT VIDEO HAS APPARENTLY BEEN BEEN CIRCULATED, AND THAT IS THAT'S NO DOING OF MINE, THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD.

AND APPARENTLY, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WANTED TO SEE IT.

BUT IN THE CONVERSATION, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF WE DO THIS INSTANCE AND SAY WE NEED TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE, THIS INSTANCE, AND WE CAPTURE THIS MORE CAPTURE THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND WE WE GO WITH THIS MILLAGE RATE.

WE TILT THE SCALE TO THE POINT THAT NOW IT'S NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT'S THE GREATEST ENTITY ON YOUR TAX BILL, WHICH YOU ASKED ANY OF THESE NORTHERNERS THAT ARE MOVING HERE, WHAT RUNNING FROM TAXES, WHAT THEIR BIGGEST TAX ENTITY UP THERE WAS.

IT WAS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TRADITIONALLY HERE, IT'S THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND AS A PARENT, SO BE IT.

YOU KNOW, EVEN BEFORE I WAS A PARENT, I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO PAINT THE SCHOOLS.

I UNDERSTOOD, THOUGH, IT WAS ONE DAY GOING TO NEED BE, BUT NOW IT'S SWINGING TO THE MUNICIPALITY WHERE AS A CITIZEN, YOU WOULD FEEL AS THOUGH YOU HAVE THE MOST I WOULDN'T SAY CONTROL, BUT HOPEFULLY THE MOST INFLUENCE, THE MOST CHANCE TO BE HEARD AT THAT LEVEL.

THAT'S NOW WHAT'S EATING UP AND BEING THE LARGEST MEMBER OF THE PIE.

AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY, ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE BAD.

IN MY HOUSEHOLD EXAMPLE, MY POTABLE WATER SYSTEM IS BAD RIGHT NOW.

IT'S ALL TRUE.

BUT I'M STILL SITTING ON THAT MOTHER IN LAW SUITE MONEY AND THE CITY IS STILL SITTING ON BUILDING E MONEY AND SO ON.

NOW BUILDING E IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS GROWTH THAT THE CITY IS HAVING AND HAS HAD.

I WILL ARGUE AND SAY AS A RESULT OF OF THE PANDEMIC OF THE MIGRATION TO THE SUNSHINE STATE OF FLORIDA, THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE ALL THIS THIS GREATER CONFIDENCE TO GO EVEN FURTHER AND IN THEIR ENDEAVORS NOW BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.

SO I WOULD ATTRIBUTE OUR OUR FUTURE NEEDS TO THE INCOMING GROWTH AND I WOULD ATTRIBUTE A LOT OF THE INCOMING GROWTH TO THE PANDEMIC.

SO THEN TO SAY, HEY, WE SHOULD ADDRESS THESE NEEDS IN CAPACITY WITH THIS MONEY, I THINK THAT THERE REALLY IS GOOD ARGUMENTS TO BE MADE TO DO THAT, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY THEY ALLOCATED THE MONEY THAT WAY.

I THINK THAT IT WAS ALL DISCUSSED AND THOUGHT OUT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WAS WAS HAPHAZARD WITH IT, SO TO SPEAK.

I THINK THEY WERE VERY CALCULATED IN THE DECISION MAKING.

BUT THAT'S THEN WE GOT TO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND IT REACHED A PRECIPICE OF NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THINGS AND LOOKING AT THINGS, WE STILL NEED TO BRING IN MORE MONEY NEXT YEAR. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND IF WE JUMP ON THE THE THE MILLAGE RATE THIS YEAR, IT'S GOING TO SWING THE SCALES, AS I DESCRIBED.

AND IT'S GOING TO SWING IT IN THAT THE CITIES, THE LARGER PORTION OF THE PIE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THEN THE CAT WILL COME UP FOR CONSIDERATION IN NOVEMBER AS WELL.

SO I THINK AS THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE CAT.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD SO FAR.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT'S IT'S THE DEVIANCE FROM IT NOW OR THE DEFERRAL FROM IT NOW, I SHOULD SAY.

AND THE FACT THAT COMING UP IN ON NOVEMBER, THERE'S A BALLOT TO ASK THE PUBLIC TO REMOVE IT IN PERPETUITY.

SO IF YOU'RE TO TALK TO YOURSELF OR A FELLOW CITIZEN IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD SUFFICE TO SAY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS DECISION RIGHT HERE AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GIVING FREE REIGN FOR THAT FOREVER AND NOT EVEN HAVING A TOUGH DISCUSSION LIKE WE'RE HAVING? IT'S NOT A TOUGH DISCUSSION. WE'RE HAVING A FRIENDLY.

BUT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO THERE'S REALLY TWO THINGS AT PLAY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS YEAR'S DECISION TO TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE THE MILITARY CAP.

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I'LL BE HONEST IN SAYING THAT I DON'T SEE COUNCIL CHANGING THEIR MINDS.

BUT AGAIN, WE ARE THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

WE DO EACH SERVE DIRECT COUNCIL MEMBERS OR AT LARGE POSITIONS.

AND AND I THINK WE SHOULD LET OUR VOICES BE HEARD AND IF THEY WOULD, SO ADJUST.

THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS THEN THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT A BUDGET.

WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SOME OF THESE NEEDS THAT FRANKLY, WE'RE GETTING EXCITED ABOUT SEEING, TAKING CARE OF.

WE HAVE TO SEE HIM ROLLED BACK.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD IS READY TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S THE CONUNDRUM THAT I FEEL WE'RE ALL IN NOW, IS HOW CAN WE BE THE ADVOCATES FOR SAYING ROLL OUT SOME OF THOSE COP CARS OR ROLL OUT THAT FIRE ENGINE OR WHAT HAVE YOU NOW THAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY SHOWN YOU CAN DO IT.

SO I DON'T WANT TO RAMBLE.

I SAW A COUPLE OF HANDS. I JUST SAW MISS COLLINS.

AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO TURN IT TO, YOU KNOW, SPECIALS.

MS.. COLLINS YES.

SO I, I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AT THIS POINT IT IS HONESTLY AND FROM MY OPINION, FROM DOING THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS TOO LATE TO CHANGE THE RATE.

THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PROCESS OF ADJUSTING IT.

THIS FRIDAY WILL BE THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET, AND IF THE MILITARY BUDGET IS NOT ADOPTED NEXT WEEK AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY OF PALM BAY WILL BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, AND WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY REVERT BACK TO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

SO THAT IS HOW IT WORKS.

SO THE SECOND PUBLIC, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS REALLY THERE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY LAST MINUTE REVISIONS.

BUT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS DONE IN THE SUNSHINE AND THERE'S NOT A MEETING THAT YOU CAN SIMPLY HOLD IN DURING THIS TIME OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, ONCE WE GO TO THE ADVERTISEMENTS AND WE GO TO THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, IF THEY DO NOT ADOPT THE RATE AS IS, WE WILL BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE.

I APPRECIATE THAT ADDED TEXTURE, MS..

COLLINS. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A DOG AND PONY SHOW.

JUST TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT.

EXCUSE ME. WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF THE SECOND HEARING? THE SECOND HEARING IS TO OFFICIALLY ADOPT A BUDGET.

SO THIS IS THE BUDGET AND THE MILITARY.

SO THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ UP ON THAT.

SO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TRIM, WHICH IS OUR TRUTH IN MILLAGE SECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, HAS VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON ADOPTIONS OF RATES AND BUDGETS. IT STARTS OFFICIALLY IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, AND IT DOES RUN ALL THE WAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

SEPTEMBER REQUIRES TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR ANY TAXING AUTHORITY.

THIS INCLUDES CITIES, THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS ONE IN JULY, AND THEN THEY DO ONE IN SEPTEMBER.

SO IT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS WHERE YOU REVIEW ESSENTIALLY YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET.

YOU DO THAT BY GETTING CITIZENS INPUT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE PREPARE AND DO A LOT OF WORKSHOPS UP UNTIL THAT FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS ESSENTIALLY THE LAST CHANCE THAT ANY TAXING AUTHORITY, COUNCIL OR BOARD HAS CHANCES TO MAKE THOSE REVISIONS.

THEN, THROUGH STATUTORY GUIDELINES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ADVERTISEMENT WITHIN 15 CALENDAR DAYS ON YOUR NOTICE OF PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND YOUR BUDGET SUMMARY AD, WHICH WILL BE HAPPENING FOR US THIS FRIDAY ON THAT BUDGET SUMMARY AD AND THAT WHERE YOU DISCLOSE YOUR ACTUAL SUMMARY BUDGET, YOU WILL LIST YOUR OFFICIAL SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO BE HELD WITHIN FIVE CALENDAR DAYS OF THE ADVERTISEMENT, AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL OFFICIALLY SERVE AS THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET. WE DO REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS OFFICIALLY ADOPTED VIA ORDINANCE, WHICH REQUIRES TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ANYWAY.

SO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS ALSO SAY THAT THE BUDGET DOES HAVE TO BE ADOPTED WITHIN 100 CALENDAR DAYS AS OF JULY ONE.

SO THERE'S VERY LIMITATIONS, VERY MUCH LIMITED TIME ON WHEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY HOLD THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND AGAIN, IF IF THAT IS NOT ADOPTED ON THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED, THEN YOU WOULD BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

SO THE PUBLIC REALLY HAS TIME DURING THE WORKSHOPS, LIKE WHEN DO THE PUBLIC IS IT JUST THAT ONE MEETING THAT WAS ON SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH THAT THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE BUDGET? OR IS IT OUR WORK THAT REALLY SHOULD BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY MUCH PRIOR TO THAT, LIKE IN THE JUNE MEETINGS AND INVITING PEOPLE TO THOSE WORKSHOPS AND THEN REALLY GETTING PREPARED AT THAT TIME TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC, WHAT THE CITIZENS MIGHT WANT TO SEE.

SO IT'S A COMBINATION.

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I HAVE THREE BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN THE MONTH OF WE USUALLY DO THEM JUNE, JULY AND THEN WE DO AN AUGUST ONE.

SO WE OFFICIALLY HOLD TWO OF THOSE.

THOSE ARE PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE.

WE TALK ABOUT THOSE DURING OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

THERE'S A WORKSHOP THERE.

JUST LIKE ANY OTHER WORKSHOP THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS.

THEY ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY ARE ADVERTISED ON FACEBOOK, THEY'RE ADVERTISED USUALLY ON LINKEDIN.

SEVERAL OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DO SHARE THOSE ON THEIR PERSONAL PAGES OR THEIR THEIR COUNCIL PAGES, ESSENTIALLY, SO THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH BEING THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR YOU TO GO OUT AND AND AND DO THOSE THINGS.

BUT YES, SO THAT SO MY BUDGET PROCESS FOR ME, IT OFFICIALLY STARTS IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND IN FEBRUARY IS WHEN I OFFICIALLY STARTED INTERNALLY.

BUT OUR CALENDAR AND WE TALK ABOUT OUR WORKSHOPS ALL THE TIME, SO THE WORKSHOPS ARE JUST LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IS ANYTHING ELSE WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN COME AND THEY CAN HEAR ABOUT THE PRESENTATIONS THAT I PROVIDE AND I USUALLY DO A CURRENT YEAR REVIEW AND THEN I ALSO DO A LOOKING FORWARD.

SO IN MY OPINION, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IS THE OFFICIAL ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S WHY ANYTHING PRECEDING TO THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS TO ATTEND THOSE SO THEY CAN GET A KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. THANK YOU.

I WAS LOOKING AT THAT BACKWARDS.

SO YEAH, THAT PROCESS STARTS MUCH EARLIER IS WHAT I'M HEARING.

AND IF A CITIZEN WANTED TO HAVE INPUT IN THE BUDGET JUST BASED ON THE WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S COMING OUT TO A WORKSHOP WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS LIKE HOW IT WORKS, AND THEN YOU DO WONDERFUL WITH THOSE WORKSHOPS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOOD.

BUT IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HAVE AN INPUT, WHAT MEETING WOULD THAT BE? WOULD BECAUSE AS YOU JUST SAID, THOSE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE REALLY FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE DECISION, BUT NOT REALLY TO CONSIDER WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING AT THAT MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S LATE, IS WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY.

WELL, SO WE DO ALWAYS HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT, WHETHER IT'S BUDGET RELATED OR NOT.

SO ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHETHER IT'S A WORKSHOP, SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING OR A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, WE DO HAVE CITIZENS COME UP AND PROVIDE THEIR INPUT.

WE WE ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS TO COME TO THE WORKSHOPS.

I'VE ENCOURAGED INDIVIDUALS TO COME AND SPEAK WITH ME SO THAT I CAN AND I'M OPEN TO HAVING WORKSHOPS OR EVEN PRESENTING TO THE CITIZENS AND ADVISORY BOARD OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

AND I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

YES, THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE THE BEST SETTING BECAUSE IT IS THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I CAN SHARE.

I CAN DO PRESENTATIONS.

I'VE DONE SEVERAL OF THOSE BEFORE.

I'VE DONE THEM FOR CITY COUNCIL, MY BUDGET 101.

I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THOSE.

I WOULD JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE WELCOME AND THAT WE HAVE.

CITIZENS WHO WOULD TEND TO LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANGELA.

SO THANK YOU, MS.. COLLINS AND THANK YOU, MS..

CLINKSCALES AND I'M COMING OVER TO YOU.

MS.. BEAUCHAMP. I JUST DO WANT TO MENTION TO REMEMBER THESE THINGS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NUMBER FIVE, NEW BUSINESS, OUR MEETING SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE MEETINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE AND THEN THE ONES THAT MAYBE WE DON'T, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE ESSENTIAL.

AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE JULY MEETING WAS ESSENTIAL AND IT DIDN'T OCCUR BECAUSE THERE WAS A EMERGENCY HERE IN THE CHAMBERS THE NIGHT THAT THE COUNCIL WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR FIRST PIECE.

SO THEN THEY TOOK OUR DATE.

RIGHT. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY HERE IN THE PUBLIC FORUM THAT DAY THAT THE EMERGENCY HAPPENED IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THE COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE PIVOTED THEIR VENUE TO THE DON REED MEMORIAL COMMUNITY ROOM AT THE FRONT OF THE ANNEX BUILDING, WHICH WOULD HAVE HAD PLENTY OF ROOM FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC FOR THE MEETING AND THE HANDFUL OF OTHERS.

WE WOULD HAVE BEEN A-OK AND WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY ON TIME.

AND THAT THAT FIRST JUNCTION WHEN THEY GOT TOGETHER WAS THE FIRST INDICATION THAT THEY WANTED ALL THE HELP THEY COULD GET FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WHAT HAVE YOU DEFINING THE CRITICAL NEED.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY WANTED TO GO.

SO IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO HAVE A JULY MEETING, WE WOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO SAY THIS IS THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO GO.

LET'S TALK TO OUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, COWORKERS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

ASK THEM IF THEY WANT THEIR COUNCIL TO GO THIS DIRECTION.

WE MIGHT HAVE STARTED TO INFLUENCE THE PROCESS IN JULY AND THEN IN ALL THAT MOMENTUM WE MIGHT HAVE BUILT IN JULY, WE MIGHT HAVE MET IN AUGUST AND WE MIGHT HAVE CHECKED IN AND WE

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WHATEVER REASON, NOW WE FIND OURSELVES HERE IN SEPTEMBER IN BETWEEN THE FIRST ONE AND TWO OF THESE OFFICIAL WORKSHOPS THAT IT'S NOT A WORKSHOP ANYMORE, IT'S A HEARING. AND WE KNOW THE BOOKS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I'M JUST HEARING A LOT ABOUT WHAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO TO IMPROVE AND TO RAISE OUR PLATFORM, BECAUSE I SEE A HUGE WILLINGNESS AND REALLY JUST TO STRIVE TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER FROM EACH AND EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS BOARD AND EVEN FROM OUR STAFF.

AS FAR AS MS..

COLLINS AND MR. WOJCIECHOWSKI AND EDUCATING THE CITIZENRY THAT THAT WANTS TO BE EDUCATED.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO RAISE UP THIS PLATFORM.

WE NEED TO GET A FEW FOLKS IN THESE SEATS AS WE PROCEED FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN REALLY GET EVERYONE EDUCATED.

AND PERHAPS IF IF THIS GOING OVER THE MILLAGE AND GIVEN THIS JOLT INTO THINGS AND GETTING SOME OF THOSE OVERDUE THINGS, WE NEED TO IF IT DOES NOTHING ELSE FOR US, THEN ALL THOSE THINGS OF FINANCING, THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED, MAYBE IT WILL CREATE THAT AWARENESS INTO THE PROCESS THAT WE REALLY DO NEED COMING INTO THIS CAP, COMING ON TO THE ONTO THE THE BALLOT.

HEY, IF, IF THE CAP GETS VOTED OFF THE BALLOT, THAT'S EVEN ON THE BALLOT.

THAT'S EVEN MORE REASON THE CITIZENS SHOULD WANT TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VILLAGE RATE IS.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THEN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NO CAP IN PLACE.

SO ANYHOW, I THINK THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY SUFFICE TO MOVE ALONG.

OH, ACTUALLY, MS.. BEACHAM, I APOLOGIZE.

YOU HAD A COMMENT I WAS GOING TO ADD ON TO THAT IN REGARDS TO LIKE SHE SAID, I ALREADY KNEW THAT WE WOULD BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND DEALING WITH DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES. USUALLY PUBLIC HEARINGS IS REALLY NOT A HEARING.

IT'S JUST MORE A FORMALITY.

SO KNOWING THAT WE'RE ALREADY ON THE SECOND ONE, I THINK US ON THE ADVISORY BOARD WILL BE MORE TO ADVISE THE CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND, RESPECT THE DECISION THAT'S BEEN DONE.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID, DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE MISTAKES BECAUSE LET'S BE PERFECTLY HONEST, WE'RE IN THIS BOAT BECAUSE WE MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES AND THEY WERE JUST SWEPT UNDER THE RUG BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE SHOULD HAVE SO MANY OUTDATED VEHICLES, SO MANY OUTDATED, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY AND STUFF.

IF WE WERE ACTUALLY ON IT, EVEN AS CITIZENS, WE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE BUDGET.

SO MY ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE NOW WAKE UP, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE THERE IN OUR POCKETS.

SO WHEN YOU HIT SOMEBODY, POCKETS GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

SO NOW THAT WE GOT EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, SO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL WE WILL START HAVING PUBLIC HERE BECAUSE I MEAN, EVERY ADVISORY BOARD IS IMPORTANT.

BUT WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS THE BUDGET, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE OUR MONEY IS.

AND DURING THE PRESENTATION, SEEING FOUR PAGES OF VACANCIES FOR JOBS AND TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN CITIZENS HERE NOT WORKING HERE, THAT THAT UPSETS ME.

AND THE FACT IS, WE SHOULD WANT TO LIVE AND WORK.

RIGHT HERE, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE WORKING IN ROCKLEDGE, WORKING IN MELBOURNE, NOT WANTING TO WORK IN PALM BAY BECAUSE OUR WAGES ARE SO MUCH LOWER.

SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DECIDED TO GO THE DIRECTION THEY DID BECAUSE IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE TO TRY TO GO FIX WHAT YOU DID WRONG.

IT'S JUST EASIER JUST TO PUT A BAND-AID ON IT AND TRY TO FIX IT NOW.

BUT NOW, AS CITIZENS, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY WAKE UP AND SHOW UP, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE PAYING TAXES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PAY TAXES AND DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT NOW THAT THERE'S A CHANCE YOU'RE GOING TO PAY MORE IN TAXES, YOU'RE GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SHOW UP TO THE ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS, THE ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETINGS TO ACTUALLY BE PRESENT.

YET. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT I LIVE IN, THEY WILL NOT SHOW UP.

WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY WILL WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

WE'LL LOOK AT OUR TAX BILLS.

WE'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, MY TAXES HAVE GONE UP, MY MY GARBAGE FEES HAVE GONE UP AND ALL OF THAT.

AND IT'LL BE ALL THIS COMPLAINT IN THE STREET.

AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR OUR BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD TO HAVE CITIZENS DAY.

MAYBE WE HAVE BRING YOUR TAX BRING YOUR TAX BILL, YOU KNOW, SO WE JUST NEED TO FIND WAYS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

I LOVE PLANNING EVENTS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK I COULD TAKE THAT ROLE IN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE IN HERE WHO I KNOW WILL LOOK AT THEIR TAX BILL AND BE LIKE, MAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE I WENT BUY THIS MUCH.

BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT UNDERSTANDING A LOT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL LEARNING SOME STUFF IN IT TOO, BECAUSE MY HUSBAND DOES ALL OF THAT.

BUT SO I THINK WE SHOULD START DOING EVENTS THAT WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME IN IN ADVANCE.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO LIKE BRING YOUR TAX, LIKE YOU JUST BROUGHT YOUR TAX BILL TONIGHT, BRING YOUR TAX BILL NIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, WE'LL HAVE THE PROFESSIONALS HERE LIKE ANGELA, TOO, CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WE CAN GO OVER IT WITH YOU.

SO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO START COMING TO OUR MEETING.

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THE MEETING OF THE CITIZENS, MISS CLINKSCALES? YES, SIR. MR. WHITE? YES. MEETING OF THE CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH BOTH OF YOU.

AND ALSO, I LOVE THAT IDEA.

I LOVE THAT A LOT.

AND I AGREE COMPLETELY.

THE ONE I WOULD WANT TO CALL OUT THAT I AGREE WITH COMPLETELY SPECIFICALLY IS THE THE ROLE THAT I THINK WE WE COULD AND REALLY SHOULD PLAY IN ADVERTISING, GETTING THE WORD OUT.

PEOPLE DON'T.

NOT EVERYBODY FOLLOWS THE CITY'S PAGE, YOU KNOW, BUT YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR NEIGHBORS, THEY DO.

THEY FOLLOW YOUR PAGE.

THEY FOLLOW YOUR THEY ANSWER YOUR TEXT MESSAGES, THEY ANSWER YOUR CALL, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

IF WE ALL JUST TELL PEOPLE IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A BIG TO DO.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A DON'T HAVE TO BE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, EVEN NECESSARILY.

BUT IF YOU JUST TELL EVERYONE, IF THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE THAT PERSON, YOU'RE THAT PERSON WHO'S ON THE BOARD, THEY'LL LISTEN TO YOU.

THEY'LL LISTEN TO US INDIVIDUALLY, AND THEN THEY'LL COME.

THEN THEY'LL SHOW UP BECAUSE SOMEONE THAT THEY KNOW TOLD THEM IT'S IMPORTANT, POSSIBLY EXPLAINED WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.

AND ESPECIALLY I CAN BRING YOUR TAX BILL.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT AND WANT THAT ON A CALENDAR SOMEWHERE, WHICH DEFINITELY SET THAT UP FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL DEFINITELY AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A LESSON THAT WILL HAVE TO BE APPLIED FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE MOST PART.

BUT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE VERY ACTIVE IN THAT, IN THAT ROLE THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD.

MAKING SURE EVERYONE KNOWS HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND SHOW THEM HOW TO AFFECT.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. THANK THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR THE DIALOG HERE.

I'LL JUST JUST ADD ON THAT.

KNOW, THE MORE THAT WE CAN HELP TO EDUCATE OUR NEIGHBORS, THAT HAS LASTING EFFECTS FOR FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU GET INTO REVIEWING YOUR YOUR TENTATIVE TAX BILL AND UNDERSTANDING IT.

NOW, YOU MIGHT PEEL BACK A LAYER TO OF PERSONAL FINANCE AND PERSONAL FINANCE HABITS AND CREATING FINANCIAL RESILIENCE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS A WHOLE, WE CAN WE CAN ADMIT THAT IF WE LOOK AROUND, NOT EVERYBODY AROUND US HAS HAS THE STRONGEST SAY THIS AS GENTLY AS I CAN FINANCIAL I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD LITERACY BUT IT'S TRUE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MANAGE AN ENTERPRISE THAT IS A HOUSEHOLD.

AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE TO KNOW HOW TO RAISE A FAMILY AND RAISE KIDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT TO RUN THE ENTERPRISE THAT IS A HOUSEHOLD WITH ALL THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.

I'M NOT A CPA OR AN ACCOUNTANT, AND MOST MOST FOLKS AREN'T.

SO TO SHOW THAT THINGS LIKE THIS DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT INTIMIDATING AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN CONTROL AND YOU CAN HAVE INFLUENCE ON.

I THINK IT WOULD REALLY SERVE TO EMPOWER FOLKS TO TO BE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT ELSE CAN I GRAB A HOLD OF IN MY FINANCIAL PICTURE? YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE CAN I TAKE CONTROL OF? AND AND WHAT COULD THAT ADD TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE MORE EDUCATED AND MORE EMPOWERED CITIZENS? I THINK YOU CAN ADD A WHOLE LOT.

THAT SAID, WE FIND OURSELVES STILL ON OFFICIALLY NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO, WHICH WAS REVIEWING THE BUDGET.

SO WE'VE DEFINITELY DIALOGED ON THAT.

AND WE DO HAVE FURTHER ORDER HERE OF REVIEWING THE CAPITAL IN INVESTMENT PLAN IMPROVEMENT PLAN, DISCUSSING THE CURRENT ALLOCATION OF THE ARPA FUNDS AND THEN THE BOARD'S SCHEDULE.

SO WE HAVE THREE BUSINESS ITEMS WHERE AT 730, THE FIRST TIME I WENT TO.

SO WE HAVE 90 MINUTES BEFORE OUR CURFEW TO COVER OUR THREE BUSINESS ITEMS. SHOULD WE REMAIN IN THE SAME ORDER OR DO WE HEAR ANY SORT OF MOTION TO PULL ANY OF THESE INTO DISCUSSION SOONER? I MAKE A MOTION? CAN WE DISCUSS FIVE NOW? YOUR SECOND TO THAT MOVE A NEW BUSINESS FIVE TO OUR NEXT ORDER SECOND THAT ALTHOUGH I HAVE ONE ONE REMAINING COMMENT ON ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

OKAY. WELL, LET'S JUST SEE WE'LL COME TO THAT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO WE'LL CONCLUDE NEW BUSINESS TWO IN A MOMENT.

BUT BEFORE WE DO, WE HAVE A SECOND TO GET TO NEW BUSINESS FIVE AFTER THAT FROM MS..

BOOTCAMPS. A SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS..

BEAUCHAMP, SECONDED BY MS..

CLINKSCALES TO ADDRESS NEW BUSINESS.

FIVE NEXT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

I THANK YOU SO PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

BEFORE WE DO SO, MR. WHITE. TAKE US TAKE US HOME ON NUMBER TWO.

JUST ONE FINAL POINT THERE, ESPECIALLY, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT WITH THE EXPLANATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE DIFFERENT OF THE FIRST AND SECOND PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE BUDGET.

ALL THAT MAKES IT ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET WAS NOT IN OR ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA OR THAT MEETING.

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THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED WITH CHANGES BUDGET ARE ALL PUBLISHED ONLINE AND THAT IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

YES. AND AS AS WITH MOST OF THE OF THE ITEMS DISCUSSED IN COUNCIL MEETINGS, MOST OF THEM ARE.

SOMEWHERE, SO TO SPEAK.

BUT IF WE'RE IF THAT'S REALLY THE LAST MEETING WHERE ANY CHANGES CAN BE MADE.

WITHOUT VIOLATING STATE STATUTES.

I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ATTACH THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF THE BUDGET TO THAT COUNCIL MEETINGS AGENDA.

I WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT AND WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT THEY WISH TO GO INTO.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. AND I WOULD JUST, I GUESS, ADD TO THAT COMMENT.

YEAH, FROM THE CITY CLERK PERSPECTIVE, AS FAR AS WHAT MAKES AN OFFICIAL AGENDA.

YOU KNOW, AS PART OF BEING ON MULTIPLE BOARDS, BUT I'LL SAY ESPECIALLY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE AGENDA PACKETS ARE HUNDREDS OF PAGES.

AND IT'S IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALL RELEVANT TO THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

THIS LINE BY LINE BUDGET IS DEFINITELY RELEVANT TO THE ITEM IN THOSE HEARINGS.

SO I CONCUR WITH YOU ON THAT, SIR.

SO THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, MISS COLLINS, FOR LOOKING INTO IT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS APPROPRIATE.

[5. Discuss Board meeting schedule for FY23.]

SO MR. MARTINEZ MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OUR NORMAL CADENCE IS THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, 6:30 P.M.

RIGHT HERE IN THIS CHAMBER, SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.

AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE HERE IS, IS SETTING FORTH ANY SORT OF AGREED UPON.

WE'LL EITHER SKIP THIS MEETING OR HAVE A DEVIATION BECAUSE OF A HOLIDAY FOR FORESEEABLE.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BUTTON UP THE GOOD MAJORITY OF FISCAL YEAR 23, IF WE CAN IF WE CAN KIND OF JUST COME TO A CONCURRENCE.

WE HAVE A FEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN ON FOR A COUPLE OF FISCAL YEARS TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHEN THINGS ARE HOT, WHEN THEY'RE NOT THINGS OF THE SORT.

SO MAYBE I'LL JUST OPEN THAT UP TO DISCUSSION.

AND HOW ABOUT AT FIRST I DEFER TO THE STAFF AND SEE WHAT THEIR OPINION IS.

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION, FOLKS? BECAUSE OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE TO BE ON OCTOBER SOMETHING OR OTHER, LET'S SAY THE OCTOBER MEETING.

AT THAT POINT, SECOND HEARING HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

THAT BUDGET IS NOT ONLY PAST BUDGETS EFFECTIVE, BUDGET STARTS OCTOBER 1ST.

SO HOW RELEVANT IS THAT MEETING? HOW RELEVANT IS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO JUST TO HEAR YOU GUYS OPINION.

ACTUALLY, THE OCTOBER MEETING PROBABLY IS NOT RELEVANT.

THE HOLD. EVERYTHING IS CLOSED OUT.

EVERYTHING'S MOVING FORWARD.

I WOULD BE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, THE MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

I WAS ACTUALLY STARTING TO THINK ABOUT THE IDEA THAT YOU HAD ABOUT.

BRING YOUR TAX BILL.

THAT WOULD BE TOO EARLY TO DO THAT.

SO I WAS THINKING PROBABLY NOT THEN, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO THAT DECEMBER.

THAT WAY PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN THEIR HAND.

THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT IT THEMSELVES.

THAT CAN BE. THE MEETING IN DECEMBER WOULD BE A PERFECT TIME TO HOLD SOMETHING THAT GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO.

ADVERTISER TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION HOLD SOMETHING LIKE.

I WOULD THINK THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS.

APPLE. OCTOBER.

DECEMBER, I THINK, WOULD ACTUALLY BE A VERY INTERESTING INFORMATIONAL MEETING.

FIRST OF ALL, IF THE PUBLIC EVEN SHOWS UP.

BRING PEOPLE IN HERE TO BE INTERESTED.

I THINK THEY WOULD BE.

THAT WAY, WE COULD BE PREPARED.

WITH WHOEVER. HAVE.

BETTY. DO YOU THINK PEOPLE IN IN MEETING MODE AROUND THE HOLIDAY BECAUSE YOU JUST COME OUT OF THANKSGIVING THEN YOU GOT CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD A COUPLE BUDGETS.

AND OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, IT WAS PRETTY DEAD.

AND A FEW TIMES WE DIDN'T MEET IN DECEMBER.

AND I WISH WE HAD BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS OUT THERE NOW, PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS.

SO THEN THAT GAVE ME A CHANCE TO TALK TO SOMEONE IN DECEMBER.

BUT THEN IN THE PAST WE DIDN'T MEET UNTIL ABOUT FEBRUARY.

MARCH. THAT'S TOO LONG TO GO.

SO I AGREE WITH THAT.

OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DISCUSS.

AND HERE WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION NOW.

SO HERE YOU SET THE AGENDA ALREADY VERSUS WE'RE GOING MONTH BY MONTH AND NOBODY'S REALLY SETTING AN AGENDA.

YEAH. NOW WE KNOW WHAT DISCUSSED.

LOVE TO BRING THEIR BILLS IN BECAUSE THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IT TO EACH OTHER BUT WON'T REALLY COME AND GET THE INFORMATION.

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LET'S SAY NOBODY SHOWS UP.

AT LEAST WE CAN COME IN AND WE CAN DO A PRESENTATION.

YOUR DESIRE TO SHOW A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, PEOPLE THAT ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE. YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY DOWN AT THE END OF MALABAR HERE THAT EVERY HOME IS A RENTAL HOME.

YOU'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT INVESTMENT COMPANY AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING IN TAXES OUT THERE.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY.

IT IS 3% CAP THAT YOU KNOW.

HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE RIGHT NEXT TO THEM THAT ARE IN UNINCORPORATED BREVARD COUNTY AND DON'T PAY PALM BAY TAXES? WELL, THAT, TOO. BUT HOW ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW, WE CAN GIVE YOU DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

I WOULD LOVE PEOPLE.

I'M GOING TO USE MYSELF.

I HAVE SAVE OUR HOMES.

I'VE BEEN HERE SO LONG, I DON'T EVEN PAY TAX.

I MEAN, I PAY TAXES, BUT I PAY HARDLY ANYTHING.

RIGHT. SO IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE THOSE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, TO SEE EVERYBODY COMES IN HERE AND SAYS, OH, MY GOSH, MY, MY TAXES ARE GOING UP.

I ACTUALLY SAT HERE AND YOU DID A PRESENT ARE THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE AT THE LAST MEETING? I ACTUALLY SAT THERE AND WORKED UP MY TAX BILL OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.

MY TAXES HAVE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OVERALL BECAUSE OF SAVE OUR HOMES.

DOWN. AND I ALSO LIKE TO ADD, JUST BECAUSE I WAS DOING DOING SOME RESEARCH, I AM NOT A PALM BAY RESIDENT, BUT YOU KNOW, TAXES IN GENERAL GO UP WHATEVER TAXING CITY YOU LIVE IN. IT'S ALSO GOOD TO ONE THAT I HAD RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IS IS THAT WE HAVE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS.

AND THERE ARE THE NOTION OF DISABLED VETERANS.

THERE'S A LOT OF EXEMPTIONS THOSE INDIVIDUALS RECEIVE.

WE HAVE SEVERAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LIVE IN WHERE THEY ARE DEEMED 100% DISABLED, THEY ARE NOT SUBJECTED TO ANY AD VALOREM TAXATION. THEY PAY NO TAXES.

SO OTHER RESIDENTS WHO DON'T HAVE THAT EXEMPTION, THEY ESSENTIALLY WANT TO SAY THEY PICK UP THAT PORTION.

BUT THERE IS A LOT OF EXEMPTIONS THROUGH THE STATE AND THROUGH THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY.

APPRAISER THAT REALLY REDUCES THE VALUATION.

IT'S A NON SCHOOL TAX VALUATION OF YOUR ACTUAL PROPERTY AND THERE ARE SO MANY VARIANCES THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS DIFFERENT ONES AND I DO, AND SOME OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS HAVE DIFFERENT ONES THAT WE BOTH DO.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF TAX EXEMPTIONS THAT ESSENTIALLY REDUCE WHAT YOU PAY ON TAXES.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR INDIVIDUALS TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME.

IT'S THERE'S A BOTTOM LINE.

AND DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WHO DON'T PAY ANY TAXES OR PAY SUCH MINIMAL TAXES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WHETHER IT'S A CAP OR NO CAP FOR THEM, THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THEM.

SO IT'S A GOOD THING TO ADD.

THAT'S BASED OFF OF THE STATE RULES, NOT BY THE BY THE CITY CHARTER.

3% DOESN'T.

THE 3% DOES PHENOMENAL THINGS FOR ME.

MY TAXES KEEP GOING DOWN EVERY YEAR.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

MS.. BEAUCHAMP HAD A COMMENT.

WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY TO YOU IN REGARDS TO DECEMBER, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT DAY TO KICK OFF THAT EVENT, BECAUSE JUST LIKE YOU SAID, ALL THOSE EXEMPTIONS AND THOSE DISCOUNTS, JUST IMAGINE HOW MANY HOMEOWNERS DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.

JUST LIKE A LOT OF THEM DON'T KNOW.

IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IF YOU LOST ONE LIMB, THAT'S A DISCOUNT.

LIKE BLIND, THAT'S ANOTHER DISCOUNT.

LIKE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT IF THEY BRING THEIR BILL, THEY MAY NOT BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OF THOSE DISCOUNTS.

BUT THEN WE COULD ADVISE THEM AS THE ADVISORY BOARD, HEY, YOU NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. DO THAT.

AND JUST LIKE WHEN PEOPLE BUY NEW HOMES, THEY DON'T REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO GO HURRY AND APPLY FOR THAT HOMESTEAD.

SO AND THEN SOMETIMES WE GET COMPLACENT WITH LIFE BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN HOMEOWNERS THAT GO TO THREE YEARS AND NOT APPLY FOR THE HOMESTEAD, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY WERE SWITCHING OVER FROM THE 25 TO THE 50, THEY DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GETTING THE 50 AND THEY ENDED UP GETTING IT RIGHT.

SO I THINK DECEMBER WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD KICKOFF, ESPECIALLY WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE IN THESE SEATS TO ACTUALLY ADD INPUT TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND BECAUSE WE'RE SPEAKING FOR THE CITIZENS THAT WE TALK TO, BUT WE'RE ONLY SEVEN AND THAT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT TOGETHER A QUALITY PRESENTATION AGAIN, WHETHER THERE'S 100 PEOPLE HERE OR ZERO PEOPLE.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO REALLY GOOD DIALOG THERE.

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THAT ALGEBRA IS RELEVANT IN ADULT LIFE BECAUSE WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY TAX STUFF, IT IS THE PURE EXAMPLE OF ALGEBRA, RIGHT? YOU GOT YOUR YOU GOT YOUR X PLUS Y EQUALS Z, X, TIMES Y EQUALS Z.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

YOU GOT YOUR MILLAGE RATE AS AN X, YOUR PROPERTY VALUES A Y, YOU'RE GETTING A Z.

SO KIDS PAY ATTENTION IN ALGEBRA, GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.

AND BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT LIKE LIKE I TELL MY STUDENTS ANY EQUATION THAT'S HORIZONTAL.

YES. SO YOU LOOK AT ANYTHING SIDE BY SIDE, TWO VARIABLES.

IT'S ALGEBRA. SO EVERYONE NEEDS ALGEBRA, RIGHT.

AS MUCH AS THEY SAY YOU DON'T, YOU MIGHT NOT NEED TO KNOW ABSOLUTE VALUE OR VECTORS OR ANYTHING GOING DOWN, BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO LOOK AT IT FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.

YES, YOU HAVE TO.

YOU HAVE TO. I FEEL LIKE ALGEBRA IS THE PICKED UPON SUBJECT.

LIKE ALL THE KIDS, THEY SAY, OH, WHAT DO I NEED? YOU NEED HELP? YEAH.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT EVENT.

SO IN DUE TIME, YES.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING HERE, WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS THE IDEA OF CALL IT THE NEXT QUARTER.

SO FIRST QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE THIS IS A FISCAL YEAR, 23 PLANTS, WE'LL SAY FIRST QUARTER.

SO IN THE FIRST QUARTER, WE'LL SKIP OCTOBER, WE'LL SKIP NOVEMBER, WE'LL ADD DECEMBER AS A SOME SORT OF ITEM TO SAY LIKE CATCH UP, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE LIKE BUDGET MODIFICATIONS THAT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.

MAYBE SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO CATCH UP.

AND THEN THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE ITEM AS A PRESENTATION ON TAX BILLS.

AND WE PRESENT THAT TO EVERYBODY TO SAY, BRING YOUR TAX BILL SO THAT THE NUMBERS ARE RELEVANT TO YOU.

AND THE TEAM WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION THAT KIND OF DISSECT THE INFLUENCING FACTORS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN WHATEVER THAT DISCUSSION TURNS INTO, KIND OF JUST LET IT HAPPEN FROM THERE.

THAT'S THE PROPOSITION IN DECEMBER.

SO THEN IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 23 AND OF COURSE, WE'VE ALREADY AGREED WE'LL MEET IN DECEMBER, THEORETICALLY WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT THEN, BUT LET'S JUST ABSTRACTLY SPEAK ABOUT IT NOW.

DO WE WANT TO MEET EVERY MONTH IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IN RAMPING UP TO THE BUDGET PROCESS? OR DO WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER KIND OF SKIP, SKIP AND THEN MAYBE GET TOGETHER IN MARCH? MY THOUGHT IS THAT THE THIRD QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SECOND OF THE CALENDAR YEAR WILL BE WHEN WE WANT TO BE TOGETHER, OFTEN AS FAR AS APRIL, MAY, JUNE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN MISS COLLINS WILL START TO HAVE HER INITIAL FIGURES.

THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED DOING OUR WORK AND DILIGENCE THAT WE DID THIS YEAR IN APRIL, MAY AND JUNE.

THAT'S WHEN WE HAD OUR BEST DIALOG.

SO AGAIN, JUST.

LOOKING OUT WITH A BROAD LENS, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE A LOT OF MERIT.

SECOND OR THIRD QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SECOND QUARTER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR OF ALL THREE.

BUT IF THAT FIRST QUARTER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, DO WE THINK WE'LL WILL WANT OR NEED ALL THREE OR DO WE THINK WE SHOULD VISIT IN DECEMBER? MS. BEAUCHAMP AND THAT I'VE BEEN ON A COUPLE FISCAL.

YES, PLEASE. I LIKE THIS PAST YEAR.

LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE MET IN MARCH, IT FELT DIFFERENT AND BEING ON THE BOARD AND NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING.

I THINK IF WE KEEP IT LIKE WE'RE PLANNING SKIP THE TO GO DECEMBER HIP TO MEET BACK IN MARCH BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN ALL THE MEAT AND POTATOES, THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT'S WHEN, LIKE YOU SAID, SHE DOES THE WORKSHOP.

WE CAN ACTUALLY GET AN AGENDA AHEAD OF TIME AND MAKE PREPARATION TO BE THERE.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, THAT WILL GET US THE PREPARATION IF WE HAVE TO MOVE OUR MEETINGS, BECAUSE I KNOW A COUPLE OF TIMES WE HAD TO MOVE OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE IT CONFLICTED WITH THE WORKSHOPS, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SCHEDULE FOR US BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE WENT THIS YEAR.

WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE DECEMBER ONE.

AND I THINK I THINK I GOT MORE FROM THIS YEAR THAN I DID THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH WE HAD COVID.

YEAH. SO I'M THINKING WHAT I'M HEARING REALLY IS SPEAK FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 23.

THE PROPOSITION IS IN THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS, WE MEET ONCE A QUARTER AT THE LAST MONTH AND THEN IN THE SECOND TWO QUARTERS WE MEET EVERY MONTH.

BECAUSE THAT'LL HAVE US MEETING FROM MARCH THROUGH APRIL, MAY, JUNE, AND THEN JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

HERE WE ARE. SO THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD.

SO THE BUSINESS AT HAND IS THE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

WHAT I JUST SAID OUT LOUD WAS TO PROPOSE THAT THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS WE MEET ONCE A QUARTER, THAT BEING IN THE THIRD MONTH OF OF EACH QUARTER AND THEN IN THE SECOND TWO QUARTERS, WE MEET EVERY MONTH OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO DO I HEAR ANY MOTION RELATIVE TO THAT? I MOTION.

THAT WE MEET A NUMBER.

14TH WOULD BE OUR NORMAL DAY.

BUT I HAVE. YEP. AND THEN I MOTION FOR US TO MEET.

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OH, WAIT. YEP, THAT IS. RIGHT.

IT'S THE SECOND ONE. THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO.

HOW DOES HOW WOULD PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT POSSIBLY MEETING ON THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH INSTEAD A PLANNING AND ZONING.

THAT'S WHY WE GOT. SUSTAINABILITY IS THE THIRD.

WE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE CHANGING OUR DATE AND WE ALWAYS.

SO ARE YOU COMPLETING THE MOTION? YEAH, A MOTION TO MEET MARCH 8TH.

AND EVERY SECOND WEDNESDAY AFTER THAT.

JULY. SEPTEMBER, PERHAPS? WELL, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN.

WELL, BECAUSE REMEMBER, WHEN WE GET IN JULY, SOMETIMES WE'VE GOT TO MEET ONCE, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERY NIGHT BECAUSE OF THE A RECOMMENDATION JUST TO ESTABLISH OUR REGULAR MEETING.

A REGULAR MEETING? YES.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SO MS.. BEAUCHAMP, SECONDED BY MS..

CLINKSCALES, A SUMMARY OF SUCH IS OUR NEXT MEETING BEING DECEMBER 14TH.

OUR SUBSEQUENT MEETING AFTER THAT BEING MARCH 8TH OF 2023.

AND THEN GETTING BACK TO BUSINESS WITH THAT EVERY SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH THROUGH THAT FISCAL YEAR.

SO THAT'S THE PROPOSITION ON THE TABLE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN WE'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OK. SO THAT BEING SAID.

WE HAVE NUMBERS NEW BUSINESS THREE A REVIEW OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND NEW BUSINESS FOR DISCUSSION OF THE CURRENT ALLOCATION OF THE ARPA FUNDS.

I THINK WE CAN. YOU SURE? SURE. MISS CLINKSCALES. YES. DID WE TAKE A MOTION ON THE EVENT INCLUDED IN THAT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE EXPLICITLY STATED IT, BUT WOULD YOU GUYS SAY YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE WANT OUR DECEMBER AGENDA TO LOOK LIKE? DO YOU NEED ANYTHING OFFICIAL ON THAT OR YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT OUT OF THE DECEMBER AGENDA? I THINK WE HAVE TO GET GOING.

THE MAIN THING IS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION BACK TO YOU ABOUT THE TAX BILL AND PRESENTATION OF MULTIPLE SCENARIOS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YES, I THINK AND I THINK WANTS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A WAY OF ADVERTISING IT MORE THAN WE'VE ADVERTISED.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

WE TRY HARD ENOUGH. TELL EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE WILL DO IT UNDER OUR NORMAL CHANNELS THERE.

ANYTHING WE CAN GET THAT CAN BE APPROVED AS FAR AS PRINTED? WE COULD PUBLICIZE.

IT GOES OUT THROUGH OUR NORMAL CHANNELS AND THAT'S IT.

WELL, WE'RE PAYING FOR ANOTHER COMMUNICATIONS, RIGHT? YEAH. ISN'T THAT IN THE BUDGET? WE PAY THEM FOR ANOTHER.

WELL, WE CAN AT LEAST GET A DRIVE TO GET ON ALL THE KID IN THE SIDE TO GET ON THE FACEBOOK.

I MEAN, THE FACEBOOK, THEY SAY, HEY, THERE'S A COUNCIL MEETING.

SOMETIMES THEY SAY, HEY, THERE HAPPENS TO BE A PLANNING ZONING MEETING TONIGHT.

WHEN DO THEY SAY, HEY, THERE'S A CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, MAKE SURE YOU'RE OUT.

SO WE COULD DEFINITELY CAN YOU TAKE A CONSENSUS FROM US THAT WE REALLY WANT THIS THING COMMUNICATED, OR ARE YOU GUYS AS ENERGIZED ABOUT IT AS WE ARE BECAUSE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT? WE WANT TO YEAH, WE WANT TO TURN THIS INTO A REAL, YOU KNOW, REAL FULL FLEDGED CITIZENS ADVISORY, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHMENT HERE.

YES. SO.

SO WE TALK ABOUT ADVERTISING AND I HEAR WHAT LARRY IS SAYING, THAT THEY ARE LIMITED IS IN PLACE.

WHAT LATITUDE WE HAVE.

RIGHT. IF THERE IS A FLIER OR SOMETHING.

PREPARED BY THE CITY AS A GUIDE.

LAST. IT.

LET ME ASK WITH THE FLIER.

WOULD A HYPOTHETICAL FLIER NEED TO BE GENERATED BY THE CITY OR APPROVED BY IT? TO THINK THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GENERATE WOULD BE AN AGENDA AND THAT WOULD BE IT.

BUT A FLIER THAT WAS GENERATED ELSEWHERE WOULD BE FINE.

I THINK. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME COMMENTS.

RANDALL OLSZEWSKI ON THEIR.

YOU KNOW, STIMULATING THOUGHTS.

ALL OF US. US.

AND TO BEGIN RIGHT AWAY.

YES. THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO PLAN ON AND BUILD.

CITIZENS TO BUILD WITH OUR.

I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE TO YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO BE CREATIVE IN TAPPING INTO TAPPING INTO OUR RESOURCES.

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SO HOPEFULLY THAT THAT COMMUNICATION SYSTEM BECOMES MORE ROBUST.

AND LET US BE I HATE TO USE I HATE USING WHITE COLLAR TERMS, BUT LET US BE THE PILOT, SO TO SPEAK OF IT, TO SAY HOW EFFECTIVE ARE OUR COMMUNICATION CHANNELS NOW THAT WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY FOR CITIZENS CONSUMPTION, IT'S ALL FOR CITIZENS CONSUMPTION, IT'S PUBLIC.

HERE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S FOR CITIZENS CONSUMPTION.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORKSHOPS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN A REALLY NICE LITMUS TEST TO, YOU KNOW, HOW ENGAGED IS THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'VE HAD THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY OF WATCHING THAT EVOLVE WHERE IT WASN'T REALLY WELL ATTENDED TO.

THE LAST ONE I TOLD EVERYBODY AROUND, THEY NEED A BETTER VENUE FOR THE NEXT ONE.

IT WAS FULL IN HERE. YOU COULDN'T EVEN WALK AROUND, LET ALONE SIT EVERY SEAT, AND YOU COULDN'T EVEN STAND TO GIVE THEIR OPINION.

SO THAT WAS REALLY COOL.

SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO TEST THE COMMUNICATION METHOD.

SO I THINK THAT WE CAN ASK AS A BOARD FROM A CONSENSUS PERSPECTIVE FOR ALL STAFF'S HELP.

BUT TO MR. WHITE'S POINT, LET'S TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES IN EVERY WAY WE CAN.

AND TO MS.. CONNOLLY'S POINT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH WITH A MS..

SHERMAN OR WITH WHOEVER INTRODUCES HIMSELF AS A COMMUNITY INFORMATION OFFICER.

I WON'T BE SHY TO SAY I'D LIKE TO SEE A FACEBOOK POST.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT I WAS TALKING ABOUT QUOTING YOURSELF TO, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU YOU KNOW, MS..

CONNELLY, I'VE RECENTLY THEY'RE THERE.

THEY'RE OUT THERE. THEY'RE TRYING TO THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE MY TRADEMARK.

BUT I'M NOT FOR SALE.

I'M NOT FOR SALE.

SO NEITHER OF MY MESSAGES.

THE CHEF, UH.

I JUST LOST MY THOUGHT.

THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH.

I'LL THINK OF IT IN A MINUTE.

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS IN MY BRAIN.

WHERE IS THAT? BRING IT BACK.

ALL RIGHT, SO I NEED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE FINAL ANSWER? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WILL DONATE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT SOMEBODY TO DO A DESIGN FOR US.

I MEAN, YEAH, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO JUST DONATE THAT TIME AND JUST MAKE US A NICE DESIGN AND WE CAN BRING SOME SAMPLES OR WE CAN EMAIL TO EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF HERE.

OKAY. SO, YEAH, IF YOU, IF WE WANT SOME DESIGNS, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO IF WE'RE GOING TO MARKET THIS, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START RIGHT NOW IF WE TAKE THE VOTE TO DO THE EVENT. I'LL HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WILL DONATE THE DESIGN.

SO HOW DO WE HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU ALL GET IT? I SENT IT TO LARRY.

LIKE, HOW DO I GET IT TO YOU ALL SO THAT YOU CAN YES OR NO OR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE IT ON FACEBOOK BEFORE WE SEE IT.

SO IT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES AND RESTRICTIONS THAT WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THAT THEY FALL UNDER.

OKAY. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC PUBLICIZING THROUGH OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT, EVEN IF IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT IS ADVERTISEMENTS THAT ARE NOT PROPERLY VETTED.

WE DO GO THROUGH IT EXTENSIVE VETTING PROCESS ON ANYTHING THAT WE POST, WHETHER THERE ARE PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE FROM EXTERNAL VENDORS.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY VETTED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WHO WORKS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE WHAT THEIR ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.

WELL, SINCE WE WON'T SEE EACH OTHER.

DO SOMEBODY WANT TO? I MEAN, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE UP THE TASK.

I WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK, AND I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

AND IF YOU RESPOND BACK, PLEASE JUST RESPOND BACK TO ME.

OKAY. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION THEN.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IF I WANT TO SAY TO RESIDENTS THAT THE SECOND THE SECOND WEDNESDAY IN DECEMBER, WE ARE PLANNING TO HOLD A BRING YOUR TAX BILL NIGHT.

AND I EMAILED THAT TO THEM.

IS THAT I MEAN, I'M DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS.

SO. IS THAT AGAINST THE RULE? I DIDN'T READ ANYTHING IN THE RULE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT US FROM TALKING TO TO CITIZENS AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING AND WHY COULD NOT DO IT IN AN INFOGRAPHIC TYPE THING.

AND WELL, INSTEAD OF SAYING WE'RE HOSTING, YOU COULD ALWAYS JUST SAY, HEY, I'M ON A CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD.

OUR MEETING IS DECEMBER 14TH.

BRING YOUR BILL. YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT HOLDING THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING.

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YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE.

THEY CAN ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.

WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO DO IT.

SO IT HELPED CUT THE RED TAPE AND HAVING TO WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO TELL YOU YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO SOMETHING.

YOU CAN SPEAK TO YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR HOW YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THEM.

YOU'RE SITTING ON THE ADVISORY BOARD.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING TO US.

YOU'RE TALKING TO YOUR FRIENDS OR YOUR FAMILY.

ARE THE PEOPLE YOU DO BUSINESS WITH AND SAY, HEY, MY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR BILL BRING YOU HERE.

I'LL BE HERE DECEMBER 14.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

SIMPLE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER.

YEAH. KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPEAKING AS IF YOU AS IF YOU ARE THE BOARD SAYING WE ARE DOING THIS AND JUST SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY SO.

YOU KNOW, THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH I'M ACTUALLY ON, IS, IS DOING THIS THING.

YEAH. YOU'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED AN AGENDA FOR THAT EVENING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT THE TAX BILL.

THAT'S. LOVE IT.

YES, THANK YOU.

MR. OLSZEWSKI IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE.

GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO INFORM THEM OF THIS.

WONDERFUL. HE'S THERE EVERY.

EVERY. I'LL LET THE PEOPLE KNOW, MISS DONNELLY.

I'LL LET PEOPLE KNOW. LET IT BE KNOWN I'M NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SO.

BUT I GOT A VOICE.

YOU ARE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'S WHY YOU GET TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT OUR CHAIRMAN WOULD NOTIFY COUNSEL OF THIS DECEMBER, BRING YOUR TAX BILL EVENT IN THE NEXT SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.

GOT SOME CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY LETTERHEAD.

DO YOU WANT ME TO WRITE THAT ON? THAT WOULD BE A TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT.

I CAN'T MAKE THAT OK.

WELL, THAT WAS A MOTION AT SECOND, SO I'LL HAVE RESPECT FOR IT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. I, I.

I'LL DRAFT SOMETHING UP.

SO GETTING ON COURSE HERE FOR THE REMAINDER OF OUR NEW BUSINESS AGENDA.

WE HAVE A NICE PLAN THERE ON NUMBER FIVE.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO LOOKING AT COMING BACK IN ORDER NUMBER THREE, IT WAS A REVIEW OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027.

[3. Review of CIP through FY27.]

AND THEN SIMILAR TO THIS BUDGET CONVERSATION, HOW I INTRODUCED IT, REALLY WANT TO HEAR EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK THAT'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

QUESTIONS, SEEKING, UNDERSTANDING, THINGS OF THE SORT.

SO ANYBODY WANT TO KICK US OFF WITH THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PLAN THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 27? DO THAT FIRST? YES.

BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO TIME.

AND I.

I FEEL AS THOUGH THIS CONVERSATION MAY GO SHORT.

I DON'T KNOW. GOES.

NO, I SUPPOSE. WELL, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? CONCERNS ON THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN? ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO ASK IN THE PUBLIC FORUM? VERY THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR FOR THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

SHERMAN. MANAGER HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OFFICIAL BUDGET AND I CAN REMEMBER A SLIDE.

I WOULD HOPE EVERYBODY SAW THAT SLIDE.

THERE. YOU PROJECT IT OUT.

UH. SO THAT WHAT WOULD WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IN THE VARIOUS YEARS.

SEVEN. THAT WAS THE MOST INFORMATIVE AND THE WAY TO.

MS.. CONNELLY OTHER QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THIS.

QUITE. I DO.

I WAS A BIT CAUGHT OFF GUARD TO SEE THAT IN OVER THE COURSE OF THIS FIVE YEARS WASN'T A PLEASANT SURPRISE TO SEE $33 MILLION GOING TOWARDS FIRE. OBVIOUSLY.

THAT IS A NEED THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT LENGTH.

A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE THAT ALMOST AS MUCH.

27 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS GOING TOWARDS PARKS AND FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY JUST CONSIDERING EARLIER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION IT MENTIONED OR NO, NOT THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IT CHANGES SUMMARY THAT ALMOST $300,000 WAS TAKEN OFF OF THE FUNDING FOR THE BUILDING SECURITY PROJECT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A QUESTION THAT I BROUGHT UP AT ANOTHER POINT.

BUT WOULD THERE BE ANY ELABORATION THAT COULD BE MADE ON THE PARKS AND FACILITIES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BULLET POINTS, SO TO SPEAK?

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SO THERE'S A LOT IF YOU WANT HUNDREDS OF PAGES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO ABOUT 1000.

SO WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY WORKED ON THAT.

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT.

PARKS AND FACILITIES, THAT IS.

IT'S NOT THE MINDSET OF PARKS AND RECREATION ANYMORE.

WHEN PARKS CAME AND MERGED WITH FACILITIES, SO PARKS IS ESSENTIALLY A DIVISION OF THE FACILITIES DIVISION.

THIS NOW ACCOUNTS FOR ALL FACILITY AND STRUCTURAL PROJECT EXPENDITURES.

THAT INCLUDES ALL CITY HALL BUILDINGS AND ALL PARKS AND FACILITY BUILDINGS, INCLUDING ANY STRUCTURES AT THOSE PARKS.

SO WHAT THAT INCLUDES IS NEW ROOFS, NEW.

I MEAN, IT GOES FROM ANYTHING FROM THAT TO SIDEWALK REPAIRS TO ANYTHING THAT MAY BE EQUIPPED, NEW GENERATORS, NEW AC UNITS.

SO YOU HAVE TO THINK COLLECTIVELY IT'S NOT PARKS AND RECREATION ANYMORE BECAUSE FACILITIES IS REALLY YOUR MAIN DEPARTMENT, AND THEN PARKS HAS BEEN HOUSED UNDER THAT.

SO ESSENTIALLY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT TOTAL OF THAT 24.8 MILLION GOING OUT, IT IS ESSENTIALLY ALL FACILITY AND STRUCTURAL REPAIRS AND POSSIBLY SOME NEW ITEMS TOO.

I WOULD HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY GO IN AND LOOK AT WHAT THOSE NEW PROJECTS ARE.

BUT ANYTHING THAT IS RELATED TO STRUCTURAL MAINTENANCE OR PARKS, WHICH INCLUDES THINGS LIKE FENCING, SCOREBOARDS, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, PLUS THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THOSE.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WHAT GOES INTO THOSE BUILDINGS AS WELL, WHICH LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, IT COULD BE GENERATORS, AC UNITS, ROOFS, PAINTING, A LOT OF ADA UPGRADES.

SO WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE A LOT OF ADA UPGRADES HAVE TO HAPPEN.

THOSE ARE REGULATORY ITEMS THAT HAVE TO BE MET.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BATHROOM REPAIRS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PLUMBING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. RECALL BACK AT THE THE LAST MEETING, THE CONVERSATION CAME UP ABOUT UNDER RECREATION.

THERE WAS VERY LITTLE UNDER RECREATION.

THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S ALL FALLING UNDER ARKS AND FACILITIES NOW.

THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE SEE VERY LITTLE NOW UNDER THE RECREATION VEHICLES.

SO RECREATION ESSENTIALLY IS NOW JUST A DEPARTMENT THAT RUNS THE PROGRAM.

SO SOMEONE RUNS THE PROGRAM.

SO OUR FACILITY, OUR RECREATION DIRECTOR, MR. FRED POPPY, THAT IS ALL HE'S OVER NOW.

SO THE LOCATION THEY RUN THE PROGRAM IN, IF THERE IS A STRUCTURAL ISSUE, IF THEY HAVE AN ICE MACHINE THAT'S DOWN, HAPPENS QUITE A BIT.

THEY CALL PARKS AND FACILITIES.

PARKS AND FACILITIES WILL HAVE TO FIX IT.

AND IT'S PARKS AND FACILITIES THAT WILL HAVE TO PAY.

SO I HAVE ONE KIND OF OVERARCHING QUESTION THAT I'M REALLY HOPING THE ANSWER EVOLVES INTO CLARITY OVER TIME.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEFINITELY VARIOUS DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I DON'T INTERPRET THIS PLAN TO BE FULLY FUNDED.

IT SEEMS TO BE A GOAL STATE.

SO SURFACE LEVEL, HIGH LEVEL, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

HOW SHORT ARE WE FROM FUNDING THIS PLAN? OLLIE AND WHAT ARE THE INITIAL THOUGHTS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT? I KIND OF JUST STOP THERE.

IT'S NOT TOO MUCH.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE STANTEC PRESENTATION, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN THEY WERE SHOWING THE WHEN THEY DID THEIR PRESENTATION.

EVEN IF WE WERE AT WE KEPT THE MILLAGE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD STILL BE COMING UP $30 MILLION SHORT AFTER.

FOR YEARS, I BELIEVE IT WAS.

BOWING AT THE CAP.

WE'RE GOING TO BE. IT'S $54 MILLION SHORT, AND THEN YOU WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER CATCH UP WITH THE CAP, BECAUSE AT FIVE YEARS OUT, WE WERE ONLY FUNDING $3 MILLION WORTH OF CAPITAL OUT.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND, I THINK, $1.5 MILLION OF THAT.

SO YOU HAVE $50 MILLION THAT WE WISH WE COULD HAVE CAUGHT UP THAT WILL NOW BE PUSHED OUT EVERY YEAR, PLUS ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

STUFF THAT WE WANTED TO FUND EVEN IN THE OUT YEARS THAT WE CAN'T.

SO. IT'S A I CAN'T SAY IT'S A WISH LIST.

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IS IT A NICE PICTURE? NO, IT'S A HORRIBLE PICTURE AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT ITS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF.

DOLLARS. DO WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO IT AND HAVE WE IDENTIFIED IT? NO, WE HAVE NOT.

SO AT LEAST WE HAVE A ROAD MAP NOW OF WHAT WE NEED.

SO I'M SORRY.

YES. SO ESSENTIALLY OUT OF THE TOTAL PLAN IS 393.5 MILLION.

SO, OF COURSE, NO UTILITIES KNOW THEY THEY WILL WORK LIKE AN ENTERPRISE FUND OR LIKE THIS OWN ENTITY.

THE SAME WE HAVE OUR STORM WATER, OUTDOOR BONDS.

THOSE PROJECTS ARE ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE PLANNED AND WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND OUT OF THAT TOTAL, 96.4 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 23, THE TOTAL ASK WAS 11.7 AND WE ONLY FUNDED 2.5 MILLION, WHICH IS 21%.

SO NOW YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT 24 THROUGH 27, THOSE ARE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, RIGHT? SO UNLESS THERE IS A POSSIBLE GRANT AND WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN OUT POTENTIAL USAGE IMPACT FEES, THOSE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IN OTHER FUNDS. RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IMPACT IN ARPA.

THIS IS GENERAL FUND.

HALF OF IT IS AD VALOREM TAXATION.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUT OF THAT 11.7 MILLION IN 23, WE HAVE OFFICIALLY IF IF THE BUDGET GETS ADOPTED, HAVE FUNDED 21% OF THAT.

SO 79% OF THE 11.7 NOW HAS TO BE PUSHED OUT ANOTHER YEAR.

SO YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY IT'S STAGGERING, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO FULLY FUND THE FIRST YEAR, 24 THROUGH 27.

HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED.

THERE'S POSSIBILITIES OF GETTING GRANTS.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE LIMITED, SO WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ON HOW TO FUND THE FULL YEAR FISCAL YEAR 23.

SO GOING OUT IS A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ASK.

BUT YOU ALSO KNOW THAT THEY IDENTIFIED FUNDING TO COVER.

BUT $2.9 MILLION AT $1.9 MILLION FOR THE POLICE VEHICLES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

AT THAT TIME, IT WAS UNFUNDED.

THEY HAVE NOW COME UP WITH FUNDING TO COVER IT.

I'M. WHEN I SEE THE CIP, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT WE SAID IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST LINE ITEM, SECOND LINE ITEM GUARDS TO NOW THIS ACTUALLY SHE GAVE US AN ACTUAL LOOK AT.

A BAND AID. WE ACTUALLY NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON.

SO NOW THAT NO ONE CAN SAY THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT, WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO, WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.

SO THESE, IN ESSENCE, SHOULD BE PART.

IF YOU HAVE EXTRA.

THOSE SHOULD BE OUR PRIORITY.

SO WHETHER WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING NOW, BUT WHEN WE FIND THE FUNDING LATER, WHICH I KNOW WE CAN FIND IT, WE JUST GOT TO STOP FUNDING.

THIS RIGHT HERE WILL GIVE EVERYBODY AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION.

CONVERSATION ACTUALLY MAKE IT TO THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST AND LUNCHES, THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND SAY, HEY, I SEEN THAT SKYPE.

I MEAN, ANYTHING ON THAT MAKE YOUR COUNCIL PERSON ACTUALLY BE AWARE OF WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE DONE IS RIGHT HERE.

GIVES THEM THAT BECAUSE THIS IS POSTED.

THEY CAN PUBLICLY CARRY IT.

I SAY PUT IT IN YOUR PURSE OR YOUR BOOK BAG AND KEEP IT IN THE CAR.

SO WHEN YOU DO SEE YOUR COUNCILPERSON AND THEY'RE WAVING, TELLING YOU TO VOTE FOR THEM, HEY, MAKE SURE YOU KEEP IN MIND THE CIP.

THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR US.

SO NEXT TIME YOU GUYS MEET, MAKE SURE THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOCK IT DOWN.

SO I APPRECIATED THIS.

THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, BECAUSE NOW THIS IS MY ARMOR.

CONVERSATION. NEXT TIME I SEE MY COUNCILPERSON ARE THE NEXT PERSON THAT CAN ACTUALLY ENACT CHANGE OR HAVE A DISCUSSION.

I'M GOING TO REMIND THEM OF THIS.

BUT THAT FEEDBACK IS BEAUCHAMP IMPACTFUL.

ANY OTHER FEEDBACK, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? YES, I HAD A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD, MS.. CLINKSCALES. I'M ON PAGE 29 OF THE BUDGET OF THE ONE THAT I HAVE PRINTED OUT.

AND ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS IT HAS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN FUNDS THAT ARE FUNDING CAPITAL PROJECTS UNDER THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

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FUNDS, THAT IS.

FUNDING THE. CAPITAL PROJECTS I'M LOOKING AT UP JUST ON.

IN PLACE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE CRA EXISTS.

THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO AWAY IN 2024.

THERE ARE NO PROJECTS UNDER IT.

IT'S JUST THERE'S ALL THE BOND MONEY'S GONE.

WE'VE ACTUALLY PAID OFF THE DEBT FOR THE BAYFRONT CRA.

THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT NOW IS BASICALLY JUST TO CLOSE IT OUT, AND IT CLOSES OUT IN 2024.

NOW NOTICE THAT.

ALL OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE THERE, A MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDS HAVE JUST BEEN TRANSFERRED OUT THERE, LIKE TRANSFER FUNDS.

NOW, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT GOES TO TWO SEPARATE LOCATIONS.

IT GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND AND IT GOES BACK TO BREVARD COUNTY, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TWO PLACES WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM.

WELL, I GUESS BECAUSE IT'S STILL EXISTS.

IT HASN'T SUNSETTED.

IT STILL HAS TO OFFICIALLY HAPPEN.

FUNDS COME IN.

SOME OF THE MONEY ACTUALLY DOES GET SPENT.

IT WAS GETTING SPENT FOR DEBT SERVICE BECAUSE THERE WERE THERE WAS DEBT.

AND THEN ONCE A YEAR, AFTER ALL, THE BILLS ARE PAID AND EVERYTHING, WHATEVER'S LEFT, ANY RESIDUAL MONEY GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND AND BACK.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE SOME RESIDENT PROJECTS WHO WERE LOOKING FOR FUNDING IN THE CRA AND IF THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT IN THOSE IN THE CRA.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD GO, WHY THEY WOULD JUST BE TRANSFERRED AND NOT.

I MEAN, THERE'S PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME TO STAFF.

AND. FOR C.R.A.

PROJECTS AND I'M JUST.

THAT'S THE BAYFRONT.

SIERRA THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S IT'S SUNSETTING.

IT WAS SUNSETTING, BUT THERE WAS STILL FUNDS LEFT IN IT, RIGHT? HERE. THERE IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S ACTUALLY PUT INTO IT.

YES. SO WHAT? THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR ANOTHER TIME, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S PROJECTS THAT IF THAT MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED IN THE CRA AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO STAFF AT THE CITY LEVEL SAYING, WELL, I HAVE THIS PROJECT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE CRA IN DOING PRESENTATIONS AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE TO MITIGATE FLOODING, TO MITIGATE PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA, THEN WHY WOULD ALL OF THE FUNDS BE TRANSFERRED OUT AND NO CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE CRA WHEN THE MONEY IS THERE INSTEAD OF TRANSFERRING IT ALL OUT TO OTHER PROJECTS? SO. SO JUST FROM WORKING WITH THAT PARTICULAR FUND, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS FROM WHAT WHAT THE COUNTY IS IMPOSING ON WHAT THE FUNDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY NOW GENERATED IN THE CRA CAN BE USED FOR OUTSIDE OF DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS.

THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE A CRA BOARD, WHICH IS ALSO A CITY COUNCIL.

THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION PROBABLY BEST SERVED FOR THEM.

BUT DO YOU KNOW THAT THE FUNDS THAT ARE TRANSFERRED BACK OUT DON'T GO TO PROJECTS? SO. SO ESSENTIALLY HOW THE THEORY WORKS IS THAT THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED IN THE CRA HAS A STREAM OF TO AD VALOREM TAXATION THE CITY AS A REQUIREMENT TO TAKE A PORTION OF OUR TAXES THAT WE GENERATE AND SEND THAT TO THE CRA.

THE COUNTY DOES THE SAME THING.

THEY HAVE A PORTION THAT THEY FEED THAT CRA FUND WITH.

SO HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, THERE COULD BE $2 MILLION THAT'S GENERATED ANNUALLY FOR THE CRA.

WHAT THAT IS SPENT ON IS VERY RESTRICTIVE.

SO THERE IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY ON WHAT THE FUNDS CAN ACTUALLY BE SPENT ON.

I'M NOT WELL VERSED ON THAT.

THE CRA FALLS OUT AND OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IT HAS A SEPARATE BOARD THAT IT'S GOVERNED BY.

BUT IF THOSE PROJECTS DO NOT MEET THOSE GUIDELINES.

WELL, I JUST THINK PEOPLE I DON'T THINK THEY DON'T MEET I THINK PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE THIS SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY THEY THEY WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE EDUCATION COMES IN.

THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MY FINAL WORD ON THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY EXCUSE FOR IT.

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AND SO THAT TO ME IS JUST AN EDUCATION THING.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN ANYMORE.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS CLINKSCALES, FOR BRINGING IT UP.

AND THANK YOU, MS.. COLLINS, FOR HIGHLIGHTING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CRA, THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

SO, MS.. CLINKSCALES, AS YOU DO PURSUE FURTHER COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT I'VE COME TO LEARN AS A CITIZEN AND HAVE CURIOSITY POINTS LIKE YOU.

THEY'RE THE FOREFRONT, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN SO WOEFULLY UNDERSTAFFED AND UNDER-RESOURCED AS FAR AS COMMUNITY OUTREACH, EDUCATION AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

I MEAN, AM I THIS IS JUST MY ASSESSMENT.

IT'S IT'S IT'S KEEPING THEIR HEAD ABOVE WATER, LET ALONE, YOU KNOW, BEING IN SUCH A SPACE THAT THEIR OUTREACH.

AND SO YET ANOTHER ONE OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT I'M GLAD THAT YOU BRING HIGHLIGHT TO BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR ARENA THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET INTO THE RESOURCES AND THAT'S ALL THE RESOURCES THAT THAT DEPARTMENT HAS TO OFFER, LET ALONE SPECIFICALLY IN THE SIERRA.

SO THANK YOU FOR FOR BRINGING IT UP.

IS THE FURTHER QUESTIONS PARTICULAR ADD TO THAT IN REGARDS TO MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE WHOLE BAYFRONT THING IS BECAUSE OF STAFFING AND STUFF AND THEY NOT REALLY KNOW THE KNOWLEDGE OF ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO GET THOSE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY EDUCATE.

BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE CITY IN THE FACT THAT WE'RE SO UNDERSTAFFED ANYWAYS AND THEN YOU GOT THESE LITTLE SMALL COMMITTEES.

I MEAN, EVEN WITH THE SHIP PROGRAMS, A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT GETTING THE FUNDS THAT THEY NEED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO THAT.

SO WHEN THAT PROGRAM ACTUALLY WE NEED IT.

BUT WHO DO YOU HAVE THE WORK IN IF YOU DON'T FIND THE PEOPLE TO WORK IT? AND THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN THING IS IT'S JUST GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE WE FEEL IN REGARDS TO GETTING THOSE RESOURCES AND THAT MONEY BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE RESOURCES TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL LABOR, THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ENACT IT TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.

AND AGAIN, THAT GOES WITH PAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH. GOOD CONVERSATION.

SO ANYTHING FURTHER FOR NEW BUSINESS? THREE THE REVIEW OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN.

IN NON. I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE THE SAYING AS MS..

BEAUCHAMP HIGHLIGHTED, IT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AND IT'S POSTED.

LET'S CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT.

LET'S CONTINUE TO INQUIRE AND LET'S CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO FUND IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

RIGHT, IN THE MOST REASONABLE WAYS.

SO WITH THAT, I SEE WE SHALL MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ORDER OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS NEW BUSINESS NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSING THE CURRENT ALLOCATION OF ARPA

[4. Discuss the current allocation of ARPA funds]

IF WE HAVE ANY PARTICULAR INQUIRIES TO JUMP US OFF.

DWIGHT. IT'S KIND OF ALREADY BEEN SAID.

ARE ARE THERE ANY FUNDS AND HOW MANY HOW MUCH FUNDS? WHAT WOULD BE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF REALLOCATING ANY OF THESE FUNDS FROM BUILDING E TO PERHAPS OUR FIRE SAFETY NETS? KIND OF LET OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, HE'S THE ARPA MAIN ARPA PERSON THAT WHO IS REALLY OVERSEEING THAT THAT FINANCIAL SIDE.

SPEAK ON THAT. OH, THANK YOU.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A $7.2 MILLION THAT'S ALLOCATED TO BUILDING E OF ARPA FUNDING.

THE DISCUSSION, OF COURSE, IS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO MOVE THE FUNDING AROUND IF THEY DESIRED TO.

YEAH. THE MOVEMENT OF THOSE FUNDS.

DIFFICULT TO DO THAT UTILIZING THE FEDERAL SYSTEM.

THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT.

IN FACT, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO QUARTERLY REPORTS.

THEIR SYSTEM AND IT IS CUMBERSOME AT BEST.

BUT CAN IT BE DONE? PROBABLY YES, BUT IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME.

UH. THERE IS I'M GOING TO START FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

THERE'S $18 MILLION THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS RECEIVED OR IS RECEIVING FROM ARPA FUNDING.

10 MILLION OF IT IS CONSIDERED REVENUE LOSS.

AND OF THAT, ALL $10 MILLION HAS BEEN ALLOCATED.

I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM.

BROWNLEE'S 649,000 HAS BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THE BODY CAMS.

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AND $2 MILLION WAS SET ASIDE ALSO IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

DESPERATE. CITY.

WE ALSO, IN DECEMBER OF 21, WENT BACK TO THE BOARD OR EXCUSE ME, BACK TO COUNCIL AND ASKED THAT THEY NEED A 120 SMARTPHONE PHONES AND CASES THAT GO BACK TO THE BODY CAMS NECESSARY THAT YOU HAVE THOSE TO WORK WITH THE BODY CAMS. BUT THEY HAD OUR FLIP PHONES AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

THAT'S WHY THEY WOULDN'T PURCHASE ITEMS. THAT WAS 80,000, BASICALLY 81,000.

AND THEN IT MAY.

AT THE ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT MADE UP THE $10 MILLION WAS DEDICATED TOWARDS BUILDING.

THAT WAS 5.2 MILLION.

OVER $10 MILLION.

E GENERALLY ELIGIBLE FUNDS THAT HAVE VERY SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE FUNDING.

YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT.

YOU HAVE A.

COUNCIL BACK IN AUGUST APPROVED THAT THEY WILL UTILIZE.

IT ENDED UP BEING $345,000 FOR THE COVID 19 LEAVE STAFF.

ALL GENERAL STAFF.

POLICE. FIRE.

THAT BEING FOR MY FIRST OF 2021 THROUGH MARCH 31ST OF 2022.

IT'LL COST. IT WAS ALSO APPROVED $675,000 IN DECEMBER FOR DISASTER RECOVERY SITE CLOUD SOFTWARE.

NO DETAILS ON THAT, BUT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ALSO IN DECEMBER.

$300,000 WAS SET ASIDE FOR CYBERSECURITY AND ENHANCEMENTS.

WE ALSO IN MAY OF 22, WE SET ASIDE $50,000 FOR ENHANCED CLEANING FOR COVID 19 PROTOCOLS.

THAT MONEY. I'LL HAVE.

IN MAY.

SET ASIDE $5 MILLION FOR HOMELESSNESS.

ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK.

THE REST. 22ND.

IT TAKES US DOWN TO WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE 1.6 BILLION.

IT'S ALL AT $1.6 MILLION IS.

THAT'S A LESS RESTRICTIVE CATEGORY.

THE MORE. AND YET A GREAT HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE'S $5 MILLION TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS AND THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED.

AND THE WORKSHOP WILL BE NEXT THURSDAY, THE 22ND RIGHT HERE IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BY 6:00, WHERE THE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BRING THEIR PROPOSALS BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

I'M AN ORGANIZATION.

YOU GIVE ME THIS MUCH MONEY.

THIS IS WHAT I COULD DO FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S BIG. THAT'S BIG CITIZENS.

THAT'S BIG AS CITIZENS THAT ARE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE FISCAL MATTERS OF THE CITY.

SO KNOW THAT FOR YOUR OWN, BUT ALSO SHARE THAT WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE THAT'S I'LL DEFINITELY BE DIGESTING THAT CONTENT THAT'S REALLY BIG AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF IT. THERE'S THERE'S BEEN SOME SPECULATION AND WONDERING AND ONE PARTICULAR ENTITY, WHAT THEY'RE UP TO, WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO PRESENT THEIR PLANS AT THAT WORKSHOP.

SO EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE RIGHT OUT IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO WHAT? IN OUR COMMUNITY, THERE'S 14 APPLICATIONS.

14 APPLICATIONS. I THINK I HEARD THAT, TOO.

YES, MA'AM. IS BEAUCHAMP. I GOT A QUESTION.

IS THAT $5 MILLION PART OF THE INITIATIVE THAT MAY FEEL SPOKE ABOUT AT THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST? ELABORATE. WELL, SHE SPOKE ABOUT AN INITIATIVE IN REGARDS TO HOMELESSNESS.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU SAID THERE'S 14 APPLICATIONS.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S COMING UP WITH THE.

APPLICATIONS BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SOME SPECULATION, TOO, IN REGARDS TO THAT.

BUT AGAIN, IT GOES AGAINST.

WE SPENDING MONEY OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY? WELL, WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT IS THE OPPOSITE IN THAT WE HAVE THE 5 MILLION SET ASIDE.

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IS THAT RIGHT? THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OUT, THERE'S SPECULATION IN THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS WHERE THE DAILY BREAD WANTS TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND A FACILITY WHICH ANYBODY WOULD ARGUE THEY NEED.

AND THEN IN THAT WHEN MELBOURNE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS, THEY TALKED ABOUT GIVING US TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO COLLABORATE.

AND THAT'S WHERE SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY THINK IS MELBOURNE PUSHING THEIR PROBLEM TOWARDS US MIGHT BE NOT NOT BE THE RIGHT FORUM.

ME PERSONALLY I'D LIKE TO DIGEST THE IDEA FURTHER, BUT ON THE SURFACE I KIND OF LIKE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREATER PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S MORE MIGRATION AND YOU KNOW, THE LINE OF MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY IS VERY, VERY BLURRY WHEN YOU'RE ON US ONE.

AS FAR AS WHAT'S WHAT IT'S A PROBLEM IS WHAT IT IS.

SO THE IDEA OF WORKING TOGETHER I'M INTRIGUED BY BUT $5 MILLION REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WHO'S INTERESTED IN GETTING SOME OF THAT MONEY? THEY'RE GOING TO COME NEXT THURSDAY, THE 22ND, TO INTERJECT AND POSE A QUESTION AS WELL.

I BELIEVE ALL 14 APPLICATIONS ARE ONLINE, THE CITY'S WEBSITES SOMEWHERE, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE AM I MISREMEMBERING OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE? ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT. I THOUGHT THEY WERE.

THEY MIGHT BE. WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

IF I HAD TO GUESS, THE AGENDA WILL BE PUBLISHED EITHER THIS FRIDAY OR NEXT MONDAY.

SO THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE IN THE AGENDA.

YEAH. THE TIME FRAME IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT RFP, BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS REALLY, REALLY SHORT.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, THE TIME FRAME? WHEN RFP CAME OUT AND WHEN IT CLOSED, WHEN IT OPENED AND WHEN IT CLOSED.

SO THAT'S I THINK, A REQUIREMENT FOR MY PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE TIMELINES.

I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS BACK IN THE SPRING.

SO IT WAS THOUGHT IT WAS QUITE LONG.

I THOUGHT THERE'S PROCUREMENT GUIDELINES ON ON THAT PROCESS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WONDERED IF YOU KNEW OFFHAND WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE'RE PRETTY SURE.

IT WILL BE A MEETING WHERE CITIZENS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND ONE THING.

THAT THIS $5 MILLION CAN MAKE A PERMANENT CHANGE.

PART OF THE REQUEST IS THAT IT GO.

MOST PEOPLE THINK OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.

EVEN SO DESPERATELY, WHICH IS SO.

BUT COUNCIL WAS VERY CLEAR AND SPECIFIC THAT THERE BE A PORTION FOR MENTAL HEALTH MANAGEMENT WELL AS A PART FOR HOUSING.

TRULY. HANNIBAL.

BUILT. SOLUTION.

MA'AM, IS CONNELLY SUCH A COMPLEX ISSUE AND I'M REALLY EXCITED AT THE PROSPECT THAT THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BRING SOME COMPLEX SOLUTIONS SO THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY BEEN MARKED ON MY CALENDAR.

AND ONE OF THE MORE INTRIGUING MEETINGS I'LL ATTEND THIS MONTH, THAT'S FOR SURE.

NOT TO DEMERIT THIS ONE, I'M CERTAINLY ENJOYING MY TIME SPENT WITH YOU.

ALL THE DEMERIT, THIS ONE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED RUN THROUGH.

MR. WOJCIECHOWSKI, IS THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ARPA ALLOCATION? WE KNOW WHAT BIN IS TO BUILDING E AND MR. OLSZEWSKI IS AN EXAMPLE. THE MOTHER IN LAW SUITE.

WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

IS ANYBODY LOOKING TO DISSECT IT FURTHER? ANY FURTHER DIALOG QUESTIONS? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.

IF THERE IS 1.6 MILLION REMAINING, I WOULD BE VERY CURIOUS WHAT THOSE RESTRICTIVE.

GUIDELINES ARE AND MAKE THAT AS PUBLIC AS.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING. I KNOW WATER QUALITY AND LIKE THAT PART OF THE ORIGINAL GUIDE, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY.

PROGRAMS ADDRESSING THAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET US THAT INFORMATION.

AND I KNOW MS.. BEAUCHAMP.

ORGANIZATION. AND.

I CAN'T GET YOU THE GUIDELINES.

THEY'RE VERY BROAD, BUT SURE, I CAN GET THEM FOR YOU AND I CAN EMAIL THEM OUT TO YOU.

I KNOW WE CONTACT THE TREASURY OFTEN TO TRY AND GET GUIDANCE.

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NOT THAT. NO. GOTCHA.

GOTCHA. AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

JUST THE THOUGHT, TODD.

I WANT TO SHARE IT WITH THIS BOARD.

AND MS.. CONNELLY, IT COMES FROM MS..

CONNELLY, SAME WATER. AND WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH WATER QUALITY AND THINGS.

BUT I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT JUST FROM A DISASTER PREPAREDNESS PERSPECTIVE, THANK GOODNESS WE HAVEN'T HAD A STORM THIS SEASON YET.

YOU KNOW, HERE I AM.

BUT I START THINKING LIKE, WHAT? WHAT DOES THE CITY HAVE AT THE READY FOR A STORM TO COME THROUGH AND LITERALLY JUST WATER? I'M JUST THINKING LIKE, HOW MUCH WATER DOES THE CITY HAVE? STOCKPILE? PROBABLY NONE.

RIGHT. BUT HOW MUCH WATER SHOULD WE SHOULDN'T WE HAVE LIKE A COUPLE OF PALLETS SOMEWHERE? I'M JUST THINKING LIKE BASE BASED STUFF.

YOUR FIRST RESPONSE? WE'RE WITHIN BUILDING E, THAT'S THE ARGUMENT FOR IT, AMONG OTHERS, IS EMERGENCY OPERATOR.

THINK ABOUT LIKE WHAT? WHAT IS THOSE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU SEE WHEN A BAD STORM COMES THROUGH THAT THAT EVERYONE'S HAVING TROUBLE GETTING TO OR EVEN, LET'S SAY BEFORE THIS STORM? YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS SANDBAGS, IT'S ALWAYS THE WATER AND EVERYTHING.

AND THE COUNTY IS IS THE LEAD ON THINGS LIKE THAT.

RIGHT. SO BREVARD COUNTY SAYS WE'LL HAVE A SITE, MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE A SITE IN PALM BAY.

MAYBE WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE IT AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE OUR CITIZENS CAN GET BAGS.

BUT I'VE JUST KIND OF BEEN WONDERING HOW MIGHT WE, AS WE'VE BEEN IN THE HURRICANE SEASON, HOW MIGHT WE SPEND A FEW DOLLARS? I'M TALKING WAY LESS THAN 100,000, NOT 1.6 MILLION.

BUT HOW DO WE SPEND A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS INTELLIGENTLY TO GIVE A LITTLE STOCKPILE OF OF THAT THAT READINESS TO GO? AND THEN ALSO, WHAT CAN WE DO TO EXPAND ON HOW DO WE USE THOSE RESOURCES IF A STORM DOESN'T COME, HOW DO WE TRANSITION THAT INTO REPLENISHING OUR INVENTORY? BUT I JUST THINK I JUST THINK ABOUT WHEN STORMS DO HAPPEN.

THE BIGGEST DISCONNECT IS GETTING SUPPLIES TO PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM.

THEY ARE ELDERLY. RIGHT? RIGHT. BECAUSE FOR THEM TO HAVE TO TRUCK ALL THE WAY NORTH OF THE COUNTY TO GET SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET RIGHT HERE, THAT IS A NECESSITY. THAT'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY SO MANY OF THEM ALREADY LIVE IN PLACES THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO GET HIT HARD.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE MOTOR HOME COMMUNITIES AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME THAT'S ACTUALLY HOMEBOUND AND NOW YOU'VE GOT TO DEPEND ON THE ORGANIZATIONS TO ACTUALLY GET THERE AND DO IT FOR THEM. BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO GO THERE, NORTH WICKHAM, TO GET THOSE SUPPLIES AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET A U-HAUL OR SOMETHING AND PUT IT IN THERE JUST TO BRING IT BACK HERE.

YEAH, I AGREE.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING HERE.

I MEAN, EVEN IF WE JUST ALLOCATE IT TO THOSE WHO DESPERATELY CAN'T GET IT THEMSELVES JUST TO KICKSTARTER SO WE CAN GET OUR COMMUNITY THE ACCESS TO WHAT THE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS FOR US. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE A BIG CITY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THAT SITUATION, WOULD BE IN NEED.

SO, OF COURSE, THE CONVERSATION FOR A DIFFERENT DAY.

BUT BUT JUST HEARING THE WORD WATER, IT JUST REALLY RESOUNDED WITH ME AND HEARING ABOUT THIS THIS LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO SOLVE, SOLVE FOR THAT AND SOLVE THROUGH THAT.

BUT KEEPING IT GERMANE TO THE DISCUSSION ON ARPA FUNDS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR DIALOG OR QUESTIONS, WHAT PAGE IN THE BUDGET IS THAT? IS THE ALLOCATION? I DON'T SEE IT IN MY SO THE ALLOCATION IS NOT PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THOSE ARE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO THOSE ARE DONE THROUGH AMENDMENTS AND THEN I'M DONE AT THE PRESENTATION.

SO THAT'S NOT A PROPOSED BUDGET ITEM.

SO TO THAT POINT, IS THERE A CONSOLIDATED LIST OF RESOURCE THAT ONE MS..

CLINKSCALES COULD SEE, BUT ANY CITIZEN COULD SEE IN A SIMPLE FORMAT, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, MR. WOJCIECHOWSKI, 18 MILLION DOWN TO 1.6.

IT'S. I'LL ACTUALLY GET WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE A DASHBOARD OF SOME KIND THAT ACTUALLY GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO YOU.

I'LL FIND OUT IF WE CAN GET THAT OUT THERE SOMEHOW.

THAT INCREASES CLINKSCALES BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPACTFUL INFORMATION.

ANYTHING ELSE, MISS BEAUCHAMP GOING BACK TO THE HOMELESSNESS AND.

HOW? AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW.

STATE WEBSITE VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY PAY ATTENTION IS.

EIGHT OF THEM ARE LOCAL SO ACTUALLY GOING AND LISTEN TO THOSE PROGRAMS KNOW THAT EIGHT OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

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THAT'S NOT ENDORSING ANYBODY.

BUT I KNOW LITTLE GROWERS ACTUALLY WORK WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, DISPLACED TEENS.

WORK WITH ANY ADOLESCENTS OR YOU DO ANYTHING IN A COMMUNITY.

PALM BAY IS WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY SELF SUPPORTING TEAMS OUT THERE.

I HAVE IN THE PAST.

THAT'S WHY I STARTED A SCHOOL.

I'VE HAD AT LEAST FIVE SENIORS SELF-SUPPORT THEMSELVES, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSIT KIDS AND THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS OUT THERE.

WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT 16 TO 17 YEAR OLDS.

NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 11, 12, 13, 14 YEAR OLDS ACTUALLY OUT THERE TRYING TO SUPPORT.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE ACTUALLY AS A COMMUNITY TO GET OUT AND LISTEN AND LOOK AT IT AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO.

THAT IS IN THE SIERRA.

WHO GROWS PROJECT.

JUST SEEING VISUALLY FROM WHAT YOU'VE PULLED UP HERE, THAT'S ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, HOVERING OVER THE GOVERNMENT TAB AND THEN CITY DEPARTMENTS CLICKING ON HOUSING PROGRAMS AND THEN SELECTING THE ARPA OR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.

YOU CAN JUST CLICK RIGHT ON THAT AND THAT SHOWS YOU THE LIST OF APPLICANTS.

EVERY TIME A CUSTOMER HAS TO CLICK SOMETHING ON THE TESLA APP BEFORE THEY'RE INVITED TO BUY A TESLA.

ELON CALLS THAT A FAILURE.

SO IF IT'S TWO CLICKS, THERE'S TWO FAILURES.

SO WE HAVE SEVEN FAILURES TOO, TO GETTING TO THE RESOURCES.

I WILL SAY THAT THE MOBILE VERSION OF OUR WEBSITE, I FEEL PERFORMS BETTER THAN THE DESKTOP IN BEING QUICK AND NOT FAILURE STATES.

YOU GO TO PALM BAY DOT ORG.

IT POPS UP THOSE TILES, YOU GO RIGHT INTO WATCH MEETINGS OR LOOKING AT AGENDAS.

BUT EVEN SOMETHING AS FAR AS IT IMPROVEMENTS TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY TO OUR CITIZENS ARE ONE OF THESE VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

BUT THEN FURTHERMORE, WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS EDUCATING OUR YOUTH SO THAT THEY CAN BE THE FOLKS THAT COME WORK FOR THE CITY AND COME REWRITE OUR WEBSITE AND MAKE IT THAT MUCH BETTER, YOU KNOW, AND COME FIX THOSE FAILURE STATES, AS ELON WOULD CALL IT.

SO IN ANY EVENT, GREAT DIALOG.

I FEEL LIKE I'M DRIVING THE POINT HOME, BUT I THINK EVERYONE IS IN MY CAMP WITH IT.

IT'S $5 MILLION THAT THEY'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK.

THAT'S HUGE BECAUSE I THINK THAT OUR CURIOSITY WITH ARPA FUNDS, WHATEVER OUR MOTIVES, IT'S SLIGHTLY ROOTED IN THE HEY, WHERE THE HECK DID THIS MONEY GO? HOW MUCH INFLUENCE DO WE HAVE? HERE'S FIVE OUT OF 18 MILLION SIGNIFICANT CHUNK THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO WATCH IT HAPPEN FROM INCEPTION.

WE CAN HEAR WHO ASKED.

WE CAN HEAR WHO THEY SAID YES TO AND BY HOW MUCH, AND WE CAN SEE THEIR PLANS PLAY OUT IN A HUGE, HUGE FACET OF OF OUR LIFE HERE IN THE CITY HANDLING HANDLE IN THIS IS HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM IS HUGE IN OUR CITY AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE IT HOME TOO HARD BUT WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE TERM IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE UNSHELTERED TO BE CONSIDERED HOMELESS.

THERE'S FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE A PLACE THEY CALL HOME.

THEY GET BY THESE SELF SUSTAINING TEAMS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT.

LIVING IN HOTELS IS NOT THAT'S THAT IS NOT A HOME SHARED SPACES WITH FAMILIES IT'S NOT A HOME.

SO MANY LAYERS TO THIS PROBLEM.

I'M GETTING EMOTIONAL TALKING ABOUT IT.

WHAT IT BRINGS PEOPLE TO AS A RESULT OF HOW PEOPLE GET THERE, AS A RESULT OF WHATEVER IS HAPPENING IS IN THEIR LIFE IS A BIG DEAL.

SO REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT.

EXCITED TO SEE IT MOVE ON.

IF I IF I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS BUSINESS ITEM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA.

SO I THINK WE'RE DRAWING THIS MEETING TO A CLOSE UNLESS ANYONE RAISES AN INQUIRY.

SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ONE THING I WANTED TO SHARE ON ON THE TOPIC OF THAT, AND IT'S IT'S NOT PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HELP WITH YOUR ATTEMPTS TO NOT GET EMOTIONAL.

SO I APOLOGIZE. BUT I.

I HAD THE.

THE BLESSING OF BEING ABLE TO BE A PART OF A FOOD DISTRIBUTION.

ON. THIS WEEK.

SORRY. STAYING COMPOSED MYSELF.

THE LAST ONE OF ITS KIND.

IT WAS A PARTNERSHIP IS ORGANIZED BY OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FEIN, AND IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ORGANIZATION FARM SHARE.

THE LAST TIME THEY'D DONE ONE WAS IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND THEY REQUESTED FROM FARM SHARE FOOD FOR 500 FAMILIES AND HARDLY 100 CARS SHOWED UP.

THEY WERE BEGGING PEOPLE TO COME AND TAKE THE FOOD, DIDN'T GO BAD AND DIDN'T GO TO WASTE, DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO THEY HADN'T DONE ONE SENSE IN A WHILE.

THIS ONE WE DID THIS WEEK WAS THE FIRST ONE SINCE AND ALSO REQUESTED FOOD FOR 500 FAMILIES.

I WAS DOING A DRIVE THROUGH STYLE, SO 500 CARS.

WELL OVER 1000 CARS.

CAME THROUGH. AND THAT WAS INCLUDING OR THAT WAS AFTER WE PUT THE WORD OUT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE OUT WELL BEFORE THAT LINE OF CARS WAS DONE AND MANY

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FOREVER REACHING THE FRONT OF THE LINE.

THE WORD WE GOT FROM ONE OF THE PALM BAY OFFICERS WAS THAT THE LINE OF CARS AT ITS MAXIMUM WAS BACKED UP FROM PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK, FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK, WHERE IT WAS TAKING PLACE. ALL THE WAY TO CITY HALL.

AND SOME PEOPLE, BY THE TIME THEY GOT TO THE END, THEY GOT A FIFTH OF WHAT WE WERE INTENTIONALLY INTENDING TO GIVE OUT BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOMETHING. AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE EVEN STOPPED AND TOLD US THROUGH THE WINDOW THAT.

SHE HADN'T EATEN IN TWO DAYS.

THERE. SHE HAD A CAR, BUT EVERYTHING WAS SO TIGHT AND SHE WAS STRUGGLING SO MUCH THAT IN TEARS SHE HADN'T EATEN IN TWO DAYS.

AND THAT FOOD THAT WE GAVE HER AT THE TIME, THANKFULLY, SHE WAS ONE OF THE EARLIER CARS AND WAS ABLE TO GET MORE, WAS GOING TO SUSTAIN HER FOR SOME TIME.

SO THE NEED WAS IN MULTIPLE WAYS OVERWHELMING.

SO TO TO DRIVE HOME THAT POINT REALLY.

AND ALSO.

THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE OF THE DEMONSTRATED NEED.

THERE WILL BE AT LEAST ONE MORE, I THINK AT LEAST A COUPLE MORE AS SOON AS I HAVE THE DATE.

I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE IN OCTOBER, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE TO GET IT OUT THERE.

BUT THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, I BELIEVE ALSO AT FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK.

JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW AND ALSO TO DRIVE HOME THAT POINT, THAT THIS IS A VERY, VERY, VERY REAL.

IT NEEDS REAL DIRECT ACTION.

I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY THROUGH THE CDBG DC CORONAVIRUS FUNDED SOME PALM BAY TEN PALM BAY RESIDENTS TO GO THROUGH OUR TECHNOLOGY CAREERS PROGRAM, WHICH ALLOWS US TO DO NO COST TECHNOLOGY, TRAINING AND JOB PLACEMENT.

AND SO WE HAVE THREE SLOTS OPEN.

THE APPLICATION WILL CLOSE IN TWO DAYS, I THINK THE 16TH FOR THE NEXT COHORT.

SO THAT PROGRAM, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, HOMELESSNESS IS FOR SO MANY REASONS AND SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE MAKING MONEY, BUT THE WAGES ARE NOT LIVABLE. SO WHEN YOU GRADUATE FROM THIS PROGRAM, YOU ARE ABLE TO EARN LIVABLE WAGES.

WE HAVE ONE STUDENT WHO GRADUATED.

SHE'S MAKING 60,000 WITH NATIONAL CASH REGISTERS.

SHE DID HAVE SOME OTHER TECHNOLOGY BACKGROUND, BUT JUST COMING THROUGH OUR CERTIFICATION PROGRAM AND OUR PARTNERS, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S DOING NOW.

WE HAVE ANOTHER YOUNG MAN FROM PALM BAY.

HE GOT A JOB WITH RURAL I.T.

AND HE'S MAKING ABOUT 45 TO 48000 AND HE'S ALREADY GOT A LITTLE PROMOTION AT THE JOB.

AND SO PROGRAMS LIKE THAT, I MEAN, I WISH WE COULD HAVE HAD TIME TO DO OUR APPLICATION BECAUSE WE WENT TO THE TECHNICAL MEETING THAT WAS REQUIRED, THE TIME FRAME.

I DIDN'T RECALL IT BEING OUT.

BY THE TIME WE GOT THE INFORMATION, IT WAS TOO LATE TO DO THE APPLICATION.

BUT SO HOMELESSNESS AND NOT JUST FUNDING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT GENTLY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY.

SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR HANDOUTS, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, HANDOUTS HELP.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE ANSWER TO JUST HAND PEOPLE THINGS.

WE NEED TO TRY TO START TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO FISH AND NOT JUST GIVING OUT FISH.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO ADD.

BUT WE DO GOT THREE THREE SLOTS STILL OPEN.

SO I THINK I COULD SINCE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BOARD STUFF, I CAN SHARE THE FLIER WITH ALL OF YOU SO THAT YOU CAN SHARE IT BECAUSE WE GOT THREE SPOTS AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO GO TO WASTE. SO. THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING, MISS CLINKSCALES IS THAT IT'S A SPECTRUM OF THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONDITION.

AND TO YOUR POINT, WHAT POINT IN THE SPECTRUM DO WE INTERFERE? SO AT WHAT POINT DO WE LOOK TO EMPOWER FOLKS TO NEVER GET THERE? AND THAT'S THAT'S THE WORK THAT YOU'RE EMBARKING ON.

AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE IT EVERY TIME YOU TALK ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO ANY OTHER BUSINESS TONIGHT, FOLKS? ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.