Sep 15, 2022 Council Meetings - Regular

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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022.

THAT'S 26.

[CALL TO ORDER:]

AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

PLEASE RISE. WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN WITH ME IN PRAYER? KIND AND LOVING GOD.

WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS DAY, THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS PROCESS BEFORE US THIS EVENING.

WE ARE NOT GATHERED HERE BY ACCIDENT.

EACH PERSON HERE HAS A CHOICE, A CONVICTION, A CALLING THAT LEADS THEM TO ATTEND.

AND WE BELIEVE THEY DO SO IN ORDER TO SEEK THE BENEFITS OF THE PEOPLE AND CITY OF PALM BAY, AND IN DOING SO, SERVING THEIR NEIGHBORS.

BLESS THIS ENDEAVOR, I PRAY.

ALLOW THIS BODY ASSEMBLED TO BE GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS.

LET EACH VOICE ADD TO EVERYONE'S UNDERSTANDING SO THAT THE DECISIONS MADE WOULD BE DISCERNING, JUST AND BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

ALLOW ALL TO LIVE UP TO OUR POTENTIAL AND TO SHARE OUR IDEALS IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY.

SHOWING MUTUAL CARE, REGARD AND RESPECT.

MAY THE BUSINESS BEFORE THE BODY BE ADDRESSED COMPLETELY AND FAIRLY, AND BY THE TIME IT CONCLUDES, MAY OUR COMMUNITY BE MADE STRONGER BY THE DECISIONS MADE.

WE ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST THIS EVENING.

AND. WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR JUSTICE.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT JUST GIVES ME GREAT JOY TO HEAR EVERYONE IN UNISON SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

YOU GUYS MOTIVATE ME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA RESIDENT DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER YEAH.

COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

YEAH. CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN HERE.

CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH HERE.

DEPUTY MAYOR ANNOUNCEMENT.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 32195 230 414.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

AGENDA REVISIONS.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MADAM SMITH, SIR.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNSEL, I WAS APPROACHED BY THE DIRECTOR OF UTB, ONE OF THE DIRECTORS.

THEY ARE? THERE'S AN ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS THEY HAVE REQUESTED.

IF WE COULD MOVE IT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I NEED EMOTION.

SO MOVE. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER TO MOVE ITEM ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS TO RIGHT OUT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ARE THERE OTHERS? YES, SIR.

I WAS SEEING HIM MOVE UP UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS OUT OF NUMBER TEN TO NUMBER ONE.

MOVE ITEM NUMBER TEN ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO NUMBER ONE.

YES, SIR. I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, SIR.

SO I CAN. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER TEN ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND I'M EXCITED TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING ONE OF THE

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

SO LET ME GO DOWN TO THE DECK AND JUST SHARE SOME THOUGHTS THERE.

BUT FIRST, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MICHELLE.

MICHELLE THARP.

THARP, WHERE ARE YOU? COME ON UP AND BRING YOUR CREW.

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NOW, YOU KNOW, TWISTY CONE ICE CREAM.

LET ME TELL YOU. I SCREAM? YOU SCREAM.

WE ALL SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS BUSINESS AND HOW THEY DO BUSINESS HERE IN PALM BAY.

I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION, BUT AND THE PROCLAMATION WILL COVER SOME SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT I WOULD PROBABLY SAY SO TO AVOID BEING REDUNDANT.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS.

I'M A NEW YORK CITY KID, BEEN HERE 34 YEARS.

IN THE 34 YEARS, I CAME ACCLIMATED TO SOFT ICE CREAM.

MR. SOFTEE IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED BACK IN THE DAY.

AND AND WHEN I DISCOVERED TWISTY CONE, OF COURSE, IT WAS A DIFFERENT NAME BACK IN THE DAY, BUT I WAS SOLD.

AND SO I'VE BEEN ABLE TO NOT ONLY PARTICIPATE WITH THAT ICE CREAM PLACE OF BUSINESS, BUT SO HAVE MY CHILDREN.

AND MY GRANDCHILDREN.

THEY JUST LOVE IT.

SO I CAN'T WAIT FOR MY GREAT GRANDCHILDREN IN JUST A FEW YEARS.

BUT I DIGRESS.

THE MAYNARD'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THAT. WHEREAS TWISTED CONE INC.

IS RECOGNIZED AS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM RECIPIENT FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

AND. WHEREAS, TWISTY CONE INC.

LOCATED IF YOU DON'T KNOW 1615 GEORGIA STREET NORTHEAST HAS BEEN A FAMILY OWNED OPERATED ESTABLISHED BUSINESS IN PALM BAY FOR 40 YEARS.

WHEREAS TWISTY CONE INC.

OFFERS FRESH, DAILY MADE, SOFT SERVE ICE CREAM PIES, CAKES AND MANY OTHER DELICIOUS DESSERT ITEMS. TWISTY CONE HAS A PROVEN BUSINESS AND YOU'RE LISTENING.

TWISTY CONE HAS A PROVEN BUSINESS MODEL WITH A TRACK RECORD THAT INCLUDES WORKFORCE GROWTH, INCREASED REVENUES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE IMPROVED THEIR ABILITY TO SERVE CUSTOMERS WITH THE SAME PRODUCT AND QUALITY CUSTOMER CARE THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OPENED IN 1982. LISTEN, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.

IF YOU GO THERE, GET THE MAYOR'S FAVORITE.

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS? IT'S STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE WITH EXTRA CAKE.

EXTRA CAKE. WHEREAS TWISTY CONE INC.

OFFERS A NOSTALGIC EXPERIENCE TO ITS CUSTOMERS BY CONTINUING TO OFFER THE ORIGINAL MENU ITEMS, WHILE OCCASIONALLY, OCCASIONALLY UPDATING THEIR MENU WITH NEW ITEMS, THEY OFFER 30 FLAVORS, 30 FLAVORS OF SOFT SERVE, ICE CREAM, PERSONALIZED CAKES AND DESSERTS.

HAWAIIAN SHAVED ICE HOT MENU ITEMS SUCH AS HOTDOGS, NACHOS AND PRETZELS, AND HAVE INCORPORATED INNOVATIVE EDIBLE TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS FLAVOR BURSTS AND PHOTO CAKE INTO THEIR TREATS.

LISTEN, I SAW THEM MAKE WAFFLE CONES, AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, IT TOOK EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING TO AVOID EATING ICE CREAM IN THE MIDDAY, BECAUSE THEN I JUST IT'S FOR DESSERT.

WHEREAS TWISTY CONE INC.

HAS BEEN A STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNER BY GIVING BACK THROUGH VARIOUS DONATIONS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

BREVARD COUNTY LIBRARIES.

READING PROGRAM.

LOCAL CHURCHES.

BREAST CANCER AWARENESS.

OPERATION GRATITUDE FOR TROOPS OVERSEAS.

PALM BAY. POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND PROVIDING BANNER AND TICKET SPONSORSHIPS TO LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS.

THEY ALSO HOST SPIRIT NIGHTS, WHERE 20% OF THE PROCEEDS GO DIRECTLY BACK TO PARTICIPATING SCHOOL ORGANIZATIONS.

WHERE TWISTY CONE HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL RECOGNITIONS FROM BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THE FLORIDA TODAY AND WERE NAMED AS ONE OF PALM BAY OLDEST BUSINESSES BY SERVING AS THE GRAND MARSHAL AT ONE OF PALM BAY ANNUAL HOLIDAY LIGHT PARADES.

OVER THE PAST 25 YEARS, THEY HAVE ALSO HOSTED AN ANNUAL FREE SANTA EVENT TO INCLUDE PHOTOS, GAMES AND PRIZES.

YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE GO TO THE MALL AND GET PICTURES WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND SANTA, RIGHT? THESE FOLKS PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ABSOLUTELY.

F.R DOUBLE LEE.

THAT IS PARTNERSHIP IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

TWISTED CONE HAS SHOWN IN INNOVATION THROUGH PAYMENT OPTIONS TO INCLUDE APPLE PAY CASH APP.

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THEREFORE I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT TWISTY CONE INC.

IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECIPIENT FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE YEAR 2022 FOR THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT AND WITNESS HEREOF.

I HEAR SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF THE PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 15TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2022.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR..

WOW. THAT WAS EXCITING TO HEAR ALL OF THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR RECOGNIZING US TONIGHT.

MY IN-LAWS BUILT TWISTY KONE IN 1982.

I ACTUALLY WORKED THERE WHEN I WAS 16 THAT SUMMER.

THAT IS HOW I ENDED UP MARRYING INTO THE FAMILY LIKE MANY YEARS LATER.

SO IT IS DEFINITELY BEEN A FAMILY BUSINESS.

IT USED TO BE CHRISTY CONE. WE CHANGED IT IN 96 TO TWISTY CONE, BUT IT HAS BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY ALL THROUGHOUT.

TWISTY CONE IN OUR FAMILY ARE PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST FOUR DECADES.

WE ARE EXCITED TO BE CELEBRATING OUR 40 YEAR ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE SOME FUN THINGS PLANNED STARTING IN OCTOBER THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, INCLUDING AN EIGHTIES THEME AND BACK TO 1982 AND ONE ITEM EACH WEEK ON A CERTAIN DAY AT 1982 PRICES, WHICH WE WILL BE ADVERTISING BOTH ON FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA, AND THEY'RE AT THE SHOP.

SO ANYWAYS, WE LOVE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR FAMILY RUN BUSINESS.

WE LOVE BEING A PART OF PALM BAY AND WE THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO TALK TO YOU.

COME HERE, LADIES. COME ON.

COME ON. THE OTHER SIDE. EVEN SOMEBODY.

THAT'S GOOD. GOOD.

ACTUALLY. THANK YOU.

HE. I'M JUST.

IT'S REALLY GREAT TO PROMOTE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, AND DURING THIS TIME IN PARTICULAR.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO TWISTY CONE.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON PRESENTATIONS.

[PRESENTATIONS:]

TONIGHT WE HAVE FOR YOU THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT PROVIDING THEIR ANNUAL UPDATE FOR COUNCIL.

SO I'LL ASK OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, CHRIS LITTLE, TO COME UP AND JOIN US AND GIVE US THAT PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

SO AS SHE SAID, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER LITTLE.

I'M THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR.

I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, AS BRIEF AS I CAN OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

SO ABOUT PALM BAY UTILITIES.

THE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT OPERATES AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND DIRECTLY UNDER CITY GOVERNMENT, WITH MANAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION PROVIDED THROUGH CITY STAFF AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. FEES COLLECTED BY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT COVER THE COSTS OF OPERATING THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT DOES NOT COLLECT OR UTILIZE AD VALOREM TAXES IN THE OPERATION OF THE UTILITY, AND OUR DEPARTMENT PROVIDES WATER, WASTEWATER AND RECLAIMED WATER SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF PALM BAY, THE TOWN OF MALABAR, AND MISCELLANEOUS AREAS WITHIN BREVARD COUNTY.

OUR STAFFING AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE DIVISIONS WITHIN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WITH A TOTAL STAFF OF 163, AND THAT'S BROKEN DOWN BY ADMINISTRATION, WHICH INCLUDES MYSELF, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, ADMIN ASSISTANTS AND THEN OUR OUTREACH COORDINATOR.

BUSINESS OPERATIONS IS PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE CUSTOMER SERVICE FUNCTION OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 38 STAFF MEMBERS.

AND I'M ALSO NOTING THE VACANCIES, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH FILLING POSITIONS.

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HAS SEVEN INDIVIDUALS.

AND WE DO HAVE ONE RECENT VACANCY.

THE ENGINEERING GROUP, WHICH HANDLES PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT FOR UTILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE, CURRENTLY HAS 12 PEOPLE WITH ONE VACANCY.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.

THE UTILITIES ENGINEER, WHICH I'M CURRENTLY ACTING AS, WHILE WE STILL LOOK FOR ONE, THEY ALSO MANAGE OUR CONSULTANTS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE IN OUR LIBRARY TO HELP US WITH DESIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE GIS FUNCTION OF THE PRIMARILY FOR THE CITY UNDER US.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE CITY WORKS, WHICH HELPS US WITH OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT.

AND FINALLY OUR OPERATIONS DIVISION, WHICH IS BY FAR THE LARGEST CURRENTLY HAS 99 POSITIONS AND IT'S BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WE HAVE TEN VACANCIES, ALL WHETHER IT'S UTILITY LINE TECHNICIANS OR MAINTENANCE WORKERS.

IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO FILL THOSE ROLES.

SO WE'VE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO TO BE FULLY STAFFED, BUT THEY HANDLE OUR TREATMENT PLANTS, OUR DISTRIBUTION AND COLLECTION SYSTEM, AND THEN ALSO MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERYTHING ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THIS IS PRIMARILY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS COMPRISED OF THE UTILITIES SYSTEM.

ON THE POTABLE WATER SIDE, OUR DRINKING WATER, WE HAVE TWO TREATMENT PLANTS, ONE IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY.

THAT IS A 10 MILLION GALLON PER DAY LINE SOFTENING WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND THEN IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE CITY, WE CALL IT SOUTH REGIONAL.

THERE'S A 4 MILLION GALLON PER DAY, REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT BACK TO THE NORTHEAST IN THE SANDY PINE SUBDIVISION.

WE HAVE A 100 MILLION GALLON AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY.

WELL, THIS IS USED PRIMARILY IN EMERGENCIES.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT ONE OF OUR FACILITIES, WE CAN PULL WATER FROM THIS WELL AND DISINFECT IT AND SEND IT TO THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN THERE'S VARIOUS COMPONENTS.

EVERYTHING FROM 673 MILES OF WATER MAIN OVER 3000 HYDRANTS, OVER 6000 VALVES.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE JUMPING OVER TO THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO FACILITIES ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER ON CLAREMONT STREET, THE ONE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY AN ORIGINAL GENERAL DEVELOPMENT UTILITY PLANT.

4 MILLION GALLON PER DAY TREATMENT PLANT IS STILL THERE AND RUNNING.

AND ACROSS THE STREET IS A 1.2 MILLION GALLON PER DAY WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY WHERE WE CAN MAKE RECLAIMED WATER.

WE HAVE 128 LIFT STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, 236 MILES OF GRAVITY, SEWER OVER 5000 MANHOLES OVER 100 MILES OF FORCE MAIN, AND THEN OVER 600 VALVES THAT WE MAINTAIN THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE OUR RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM, WHICH IS HOUSED AT THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, BUT IT IS PERMITTED TO SEND OUT 2.3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF NON POTABLE WATER, WHICH IRRIGATION, COOLING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE HAVE 11 MILES, 11.3 MILES OF THAT RECLAIMED WATER MAIN.

JUST BRIEFLY GOING OVER OUR BUDGET AS IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED IN PAST MEETINGS.

THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS THE SECOND LARGEST OPERATING BUDGET WITHIN THE CITY.

YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 20 2019 ALL THE WAY TO 23, OUR REVENUES HAVE VARIED BETWEEN 60 TO $90 MILLION A YEAR, WITH OUR EXPENDITURES 45 TO $90 MILLION A YEAR IN FISCAL YEAR 22.

THE NUMBERS SEEM LARGE.

THAT IS PRIMARILY THE WAY THAT WE RECOGNIZE PROCEEDS FROM LOANS, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE OUR STATE REVOLVING FUND LOAN FROM FDP TO FUND OUR NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THAT SOUTH REGIONAL IN FISCAL YEAR 22.

YOU CAN SEE THAT.

AND IT PROPOSED IN 23 THAT OUR EXPENDITURES EXCEED OUR REVENUES.

WE HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.

SO WE ARE PULLING FROM THE FUND BALANCE TO FUND PROJECTS AS WE GO FORWARD.

OTHER THINGS THAT NO CHARGES FOR OUR SERVICES, THE FEES AND THE UTILITY BILLS ACCOUNT FOR 50 TO 60% OF THE REVENUES AND THE REST COMES FROM IMPACT FEES, MAINLINE CHARGES, ETC.

AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS THROUGH THE CITY AND AS INDIVIDUAL LOTS COME ONLINE AND THEN OUR OPERATING EXPENSES ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT HALF OF OUR EXPENDITURES, WITH 15% OF THE BUDGET PRETTY MUCH DEDICATED TO PERSONNEL COSTS.

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RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ALMOST AT, WELL, A LITTLE OVER 40,000 ACCOUNTS FOR POTABLE WATER, DRINKING WATER, WHERE NEARLY TO 20,000 SANITARY SEWER ACCOUNTS.

AND THEN WE HAVE 574 RECLAIM WATER ACCOUNTS.

AND ALL OF THOSE RECLAIMED WATER ACCOUNTS ARE IN THE SANDY PINES AND THE COUNTRY CLUB LAKES ESTATES AREA.

THEN YOU COULD SEE OUR CUSTOMER GROWTH IN FISCAL YEAR 2019.

OUR NEW WATER CUSTOMERS WERE 677 WITH SEWER AT 267.

FISCAL YEAR 20.

FOR SOME REASON, IT UPTICKS.

IT GOES OVER 1000 FOR WATER, 415 FOR SEWER, AND THEN 2122.

YOU CAN JUST SEE IT INCREASING, INCREASING MORE THAN DOUBLE OF WHAT WE WERE ACCUSTOMED SEEING PRIOR TO 2019.

WE WERE SEEING BETWEEN 204 HUNDRED CONNECTIONS FOR WATER A YEAR AND HALF OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR SEWER.

SO EVEN THROUGH THE THE PANDEMIC, THE SYSTEM IS GROWING.

OUR CURRENT EXPANSION PROJECTS.

WE HAVE TWO VERY LARGE ONES THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BOTH AT OUR SOUTH REGIONAL CAMPUS.

ONE IS OUR NEW WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, WHICH IS GOING TO ADD INITIALLY A MILLION GALLONS OF CAPACITY TO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

AND IT IS ALSO DESIGNED TO BE READILY EXPANDABLE TO TO BY ADDING ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT.

AND RIGHT NOW, WE ESTIMATE THE TIME OF COMPLETION BY CONTRACT MAY OF 2023, THOUGH WE DO ANTICIPATE BECAUSE OF PANDEMIC DELAYS PRIMARILY FOR MATERIALS THAT THAT MAY BE EXTENDED.

WE'RE WORKING OUT THE DETAILS WITH THE CONTRACTOR RIGHT NOW AND THEN THE SOUTH REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE NEW WASTEWATER PLANT.

WE'RE EXPANDING IT TO 6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY FROM FOUR AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WORK BEING COMPLETED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO FOR OUR FIVE YEAR PRIORITIES FOR EXPANSION, WE HAVE A FEW.

IN THE PAST THERE WAS A REVERSE OSMOSIS FACILITY FOR WATER TREATMENT IN THE NORTHEAST.

YEARS AGO, AS AN ENERGY SAVING MEASURE, IT WAS TURNED OFFLINE.

IT'S AT A POINT OF DISREPAIR.

SO THERE IS A NEED TO HAVE MORE CAPACITY IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO REPLACE THIS UNUSED SYSTEM AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO INSTALL A NEW INJECTION WELL TO ADDRESS THE BRINE OR THE CONCENTRATE THAT COMES OFF OF THAT, THE BYPRODUCT OF THE TREATMENT PROCESS.

WE ALSO AT SOUTH REGIONAL CAMPUS, THE LONG TERM OUTLOOK.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF EXPANDING THE WATER PLANT NOW, BUT WE HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD AND PAY AS WE GO.

WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING TO EXPAND EVENTUALLY TO 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, A TREATMENT AT THAT WATER PLANT.

AND THEN THE FACILITY WE'RE BUILDING NOW, WHICH ARE GOING TO EXPAND IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO FURTHER EXPAND IT TO 6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY WITH THIS NEW WATER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE RECLAIMED WATER AND THE DEVELOPMENT SURROUNDING BAYSIDE.

MOST OF THEM HAVE CENTRALIZED IRRIGATION SYSTEMS SO THAT IF WE EXTEND SERVICES, THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO CONNECT.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK WHERE WE CAN EXTEND THESE LINES.

AND THEN FINALLY, THIS COMES UP A LOT.

THE WATER DISTRIBUTION AND THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM EXPANSION, WE'LL SEE SOME SLIDES AT THE VERY END THAT TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE OVERALL.

THERE ARE LIMITED FUNDS AVAILABLE.

IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO ESPECIALLY FOR SEWER TO EXTEND SERVICES.

WE DO WHAT WE CAN.

THE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS LOOPING WATER MAINS TO INCREASE WATER QUALITY AND PRESSURES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. AND ONE THAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE BUDGET MEETING WAS AN EXTENSION ON MALABAR ROAD TO LOOP THE DEAD END ON MALABAR TO QUARRY ROAD, WHICH WOULD GIVE A BACK FEED TO THE HOSPITAL.

IN TERMS OF FIVE YEAR PRIORITY FOR REHAB AT THE NORTH REGIONAL CAMPUS.

THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHICH IS BUILDING A IS ORIGINAL TO THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT SITE.

THIS PLACE HOUSES HALF OF MY OPERATIONS STAFF IN AN EMERGENCY LIKE A HURRICANE.

IT HAS NO HURRICANE RATINGS TOWARDS IT.

THE ROOF HAS BEEN REPLACED, BUT WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH, SO MANY YEARS OF USEFUL LIFE OUT OF THAT BUILDING.

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WE ALSO WANT TO MOVE IT TO THE FRONT PART OF THE FACILITY.

RIGHT NOW, VISITORS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TREATMENT PLANT TO THE BACK OF THE PLANT.

WE WANT TO HAVE THAT CLOSER TO THE FRONT.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SAME SITE, THE WHEN WE SUCK OUT MANHOLES OR USE OUR VAC TRUCK, WE HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THE MATERIALS THAT WE PULL FROM THESE AREAS AT THE PLANT.

RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A VERY SMALL SECTION WHERE YOU DUMP THIS, LET IT DRY, SCOOP IT UP AND HAUL IT OFF PROPERLY.

AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN EXPANDED SINCE THE PLANT'S BEEN THERE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DRASTICALLY INCREASE THAT.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURE, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY NECESSARY AT THE RATE THE CITY IS GROWING.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR GROUND STORAGE TANK.

WE HAVE THREE AT THE NORTH REGIONAL PLANT, TWO THAT ARE GROUND, ONE THAT'S ELEVATED.

ONE WAS RECENTLY REHABBED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

WE'RE LOOKING TO REHAB THE ELEVATED TANK AND THE GROUND STORAGE TANK.

AND FINALLY, THERE IS A PICTURE, ONE AT THE TOP THAT SHOWS PART OF THE CONDITION OF TREATMENT.

UNIT NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS WHERE DRINKING WATER IS TREATED.

IT IS SAFE, BUT IT IS RUSTED AND IT'S TIME TO DO A FULL REPLACEMENT.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM FOR WATER TO REPLACE OLDER PIPES IN THE SYSTEM, SPECIFICALLY ASBESTOS, CEMENT PIPE.

OVER TIME, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF AC PIPE THAT WAS USED, SOME OF IT CAN GET PRETTY SQUISHY ON THE OUTSIDE.

IT IS DIFFICULT TO REPAIR.

IT REQUIRES SPECIAL FITTINGS WHEN WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO STRATEGISE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND REPLACING THIS PIPE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE 30 PLUS YEAR OLD VALVES AND HYDRANTS IN THE SYSTEM THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND ON THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION SIDE, WE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE BEEN DOING CONSTANT INSPECTIONS AND WE HAVE LINED FAILING SEWERS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

WE'VE REPLACED SEVERAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THAT EFFORT.

THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT TO HELP US WITH THAT.

AND THEN ALSO A BIG PRIORITY IS IT'S UNDER REHAB, BUT IT'S REPLACEMENT OF A STATION THAT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF PALM BAY ESTATES. LIFT STATION NUMBER FIVE, WE'RE TRYING TO REDIRECT SEWAGE THAT GOES TOWARDS THE TURKEY CREEK, TO THE STATION FIVE AND UTILIZE THAT AND PUMP SEWAGE DIRECTLY TO THE PLANT INSTEAD OF GOING TOWARDS THE LIFT STATIONS THAT ARE AROUND THE TURKEY CREEK.

CUSTOMER SERVICE AVAILABILITY.

IT'S ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT.

SO WE PUT TOGETHER A MAP THAT SHOWS THE FIRST ONE IS OF WATER.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD COVERAGE FOR THE CITY, BUT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY, APPROXIMATELY 90 SQUARE MILES, WE HAVE ABOUT 48% COVERAGE FOR WATER SERVICE BY LAND SIZE PARCELS.

ABOUT 61% OF THE PARCELS WITHIN THE CITY ARE CONNECTED.

WATER AVAILABLE, NOT CONNECTED, MEANING THERE IS A PIPE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, BUT THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 22,441 THAT ARE NOT CONNECTED.

AND ANOTHER STATISTIC THAT WE DO NOT CONTROL, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WATER WELLS, WE HAVE A ROUGHLY 11,500 BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

AND WE HAVE SEWER.

AGAIN IN GREEN IS THE COVERAGE FOR SEWER SERVICE, AND IT'S DEFINITELY LACKING COMPARED TO WATER AND LAND SIZE.

WE'RE ONLY AT ABOUT 20% OF COVERAGE FOR THE CITY.

27% OF THE PARCELS ARE CONNECTED.

THE ONES, AGAIN, WHERE IT'S READILY AVAILABLE, BUT THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT CONNECTED.

WE'RE SITTING AT AROUND 1371 PARCELS AND SEPTIC TANKS THERE.

WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY GOING IN.

AND RIGHT NOW, BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO 32,000 SEPTIC TANKS AND PALM BAY.

SO THAT'S A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, CHRIS.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE REPLACEMENT PROCESS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT REHABBING AND AND REPLACING THOSE PIPES THAT ARE COMPROMISED? SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO, THE PIPES THAT ARE LIKE THE ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE, WE NEED THE FIRST PLAN.

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LOOK AT THE THE LAYOUT OF THE ROADS.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO AND TEAR SOMETHING UP THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO.

WE NEED TO STRATEGIZE TO SEE WHERE THE THE OLDEST PIPES ARE, THE PIPES WHERE WE KNOW STAFF HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME, KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THEY USE, I'LL CALL IT THE GOOD ASBESTOS CEMENT AND THE BAD ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE AND TRY TO TARGET THOSE BAD PIPES FOR THE ONES THAT THE EXTERIOR BECOMES SQUISHY.

SO IT'S A IT'S A PROCESS TO PLAN IT.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE PLANNING PHASE 4 TO 6 MONTHS TO REALLY NAIL DOWN WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND THEN FROM THERE STRATEGIZE ON HOW WE'LL ACCOMPLISH IT.

AND SO PART OF THAT IS YOU SAID YOU WERE DIVERTING SOME OF THE TURKEY CREEK ISSUES COME IN AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

SO THE WAY THAT THE CITY IS SET UP RIGHT NOW, ALL OF MOST OF THE SEWAGE THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS ALL THE WAY DOWN. YELLOW DOG IS CONNECTED THERE OUTSIDE THE CITY, BUT THEY'RE CONNECTED.

ALL OF THAT SEWAGE TRAVELS NORTH.

IT GOES ALL THE WAY.

THERE IS A LIFT STATION THAT IS LOCATED.

IF YOU HAVE THE BRIDGE DOWN BELOW, RIGHT ON THE WATER AND ALL THAT SEWAGE GOES IN, THEN IT PUMPS OUT AND GOES TOWARDS ANOTHER LIFT STATION THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF PALM BAY ROAD.

AND US ONE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS THE STATION FIVE IS HALFWAY BETWEEN.

TAKE ALL THAT STUFF THAT IS GOING ALL THE WAY, CUT IT OFF AT THE PASS AND CUT ACROSS.

SO THERE'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS SEWAGE GOING TOWARDS THE CREEK AND IT'S GOING INSTEAD TOWARDS THE PLANT.

SO THAT SHOULD BE PRIORITY AS NOT TO IT IS THE LAGOON.

YES. SO COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO START OFF WITH YOUR FIVE YEAR PLAN HERE.

THE REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM.

HUGE. I LIKE IT. WE JUST PASSED SOMETHING HERE FOR THE ENGINEERING OF THAT SYSTEM.

YES, WE DID SPEAK OF YOU SPOKE OF 41 RAW WELLS AROUND THE CITY.

HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE SALTWATER? SALTWATER INTRUSION? SALTWATER? ALL OF THEM HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL.

WE HAVE TO REST CERTAIN WELLS.

I WOULD SAY HALF OF THEM ARE TO A POINT WHERE WE USE THEM BRIEFLY, THEN WE HAVE TO TURN THEM OFF, WAIT A PERIOD AND WE'RE OBLIGATED BY ST JOHN'S TO REST THESE WELLS.

SO OVER HALF OF THEM HAVE A GOOD LEVEL OF SALTWATER INTRUSION.

THANK YOU. AND THE REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM WILL REMOVE THAT SALTWATER INTRUSION.

CORRECT. BUT WE CAN'T USE THOSE SPECIFIC WELLS WHEN WE HAVE A REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM.

IT NEEDS A HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF SALT TO WORK PROPERLY.

SO THOSE WELLS WE WOULD END UP ABANDONING AND NOT USING ANY LONGER.

SO WE MADE A NEW WELLS IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE TWO THAT ARE EXISTING.

I BELIEVE IN THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS FOR THE EXPANSION.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING ONE MORE.

THEY ARE DEEPER, THEY WOULD BE SALTIER AND THEY WOULD BE MORE CONDUCIVE TO MAKING THE THE WATER FROM THAT DEEPER WATER SOURCE.

THE GOAL FOR ST JOHN'S IS FOR US TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE USING THOSE SUPERFICIAL, THE MORE SHALLOW WELLS THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE LIME SOFTENING.

THANK YOU. AND ONE LAST QUESTION.

I NOTICED YOU MENTIONED YOU HAD A VACUUM TRUCK.

SO WOULD IT BE YOU OR WHAT ARE THE PUBLIC WORKS THAT WORKS ON THE BAFFLE BOXES? WHO CLEANS UP THE BAFFLE BOXES? SO THERE'S AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE SEWAGE GOING INTO STORMWATER THAT WE WOULD TRY TO SEPARATE THAT WE WOULD NOT WANT TO GO INTO STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE WITH OUR CONTAMINATED VACUUM TRUCK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND FINAL THING, I PROMISE YOU ON THIS, IT SHOWS THE COVERAGE YOU HAVE ON WATER IS 48% AROUND THE CITY.

WE SAY THAT USUALLY OUR GENERAL ESTIMATE UP HERE IS THAT THE CITY IS BUILT OUT 40%, BUT YET AVAILABLE NOT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

WE'RE NOT CONNECTED OR 2400 PEOPLE.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE 100% OF THE CITY THAT CAN CONNECT TO THE WATER IF THE CITY IS ONLY 40% BUILT OUT.

MINUS THOSE, MINUS THOSE 2400.

SO CAN EVERY PERSON IN THE CITY THEN CONNECT TO CITY WATER IF THEY IF THEY WISHED.

WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA.

BUT THE SERVICE AREA IS 48% OF THE CITY.

AND WE SAY THAT THE CITY IS 40% BUILT OUT.

THERE ARE AREAS AGAIN, THERE ARE AREAS WITHIN THE.

I GO BACK.

SO THE AREAS WHERE THE CITY IS BUILT OUT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE SERVICE.

SO THERE'S A POCKET SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD BETWEEN THE PARKWAY AND JUPITER.

THERE IS A LARGE POCKET OF.

OF. PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE IT.

IT'S VERY SPREAD OUT WHERE EXTENSIONS WERE NOT MADE.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRIS.

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A LOT OF DATA HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHRIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

A QUICK QUESTION.

OFTEN FOLKS ASK ME, COUNCILMAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST OR THE EASIEST WAY TO GET WATER EXTENSION? IT'S TO STREET ON THE BLOCK OR IT'S ON THE OTHER STREET NEXT TO ME OR IT'S AT THE CORNER OF THE STREET, MY STREET.

OR CAN I GET IT FOR MY NEIGHBORS? WHAT WOULD YOU HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER THAT? SO THE FIRST THING THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD CONTACT US, ASK US ABOUT AVAILABILITY, AND THEN THEY WOULD ASK US WHAT THEY CAN DO.

TYPICALLY, THEY WOULD CUSTOMER SERVICE WOULD TRANSFER THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO OUTREACH BROOKLYN.

AND WE WOULD LOOK TO SEE I ALSO WOULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, TO GET THE WATER SERVICE TO YOU, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE.

WE DO NOT DO A LOT OF DEAD END CONSTRUCTION.

SO IF YOU IF YOU'RE TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM A WATER LINE AND IT TAKES 2000 FEET OF WATER MAIN TO GET TO YOU, WE COULD NOT JUST HAVE A DEAD END BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE A BLOW OFF.

WE WOULD WASTE A LOT OF WATER.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOPED.

AND ONE THING THAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD GAUGE INTEREST OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PRETTY MUCH DOOR TO DOOR.

LOOK AT THE DENSITY. HOW MANY HOUSES ARE THERE? WOULD PEOPLE BE WILLING TO BUY IN AND CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM? SO WE WOULD TRY TO HELP.

TYPICALLY, THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES WILL GO AND TRY TO RALLY PEOPLE TO WANT TO CONNECT, BUT IT'S SO EXPENSIVE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT.

OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MARY. RICK THE LITTLE.

IF EVERYONE WHO HAS AVAILABILITY TO HOOK UP FOR WATER AND SEWER, COULD THE SYSTEM SUPPORT THAT? YES, BECAUSE I ACCOUNT FOR IT IN MY CALCULATIONS ON OUR CAPACITY, BECAUSE I HAVE TO, BECAUSE THE LINES ARE THERE.

IF THEY CONNECT, I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY THEM.

SO, YES, DO IT.

OKAY. AND ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE TO JUST TO TWO OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY LEAD PIPES IN OUR WATER? NO. ZERO.

AND THAT'S GREAT.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH FLINT, MICHIGAN, IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI? WATER CRISIS IN THE CITY.

SO I KNOW ABOUT THE FLINT CRISIS.

THE ISSUE THAT THEY HAD WAS THEY CHANGED.

THEIR WATER SOURCE DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENT WATER CHEMISTRY AND THEIR LEAD PIPES PRETTY MUCH WERE CORRODED BY THAT DIFFERENT WATER.

AND THAT'S WHAT LED TO I THINK IT WAS PRIMARILY LEAD POISONING IN THE WATER FROM THEIR WATER.

WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT ISSUE WITH JACKSON.

I'LL KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT IT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEIR FACILITIES WENT DOWN.

IF ONE OF OUR FACILITIES GOES DOWN, WE DO HAVE A SECOND FACILITY.

ALSO, WE HAVE INTERCONNECTS WITH WEST MELBOURNE AND MELBOURNE IN AN EMERGENCY, SO WE WOULD HAVE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF WATER, PLUS WE HAVE OUR 100 MILLION GALLON AQUIFER STORAGE RECOVERY WELL IF WE NEED IT.

OR WOULD YOU SAY TO ME WE CAN AVOID A CRISIS LIKE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THOSE TWO SPECIFIC TYPE OF CRISES? YES. AND.

THIS IS A NO BRAINER QUESTION FOR YOU.

DRINKING WATER IS SAFE.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO.

DEBORAH JOHNSON.

WE'RE ON PUBLIC SPEAKING.

YES, MA'AM. IF YOU CAN ENTERTAIN ME FOR A SECOND BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC SPEAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IF IF MADAM SHERMAN CAN.

FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE HERE IN REGARDS TO SEPTEMBER 22ND, IF SHE CAN KIND OF GIVE ME THAT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I WASN'T AWARE THERE WERE FOLKS HERE FOR SEPTEMBER 22ND, BUT CARRY ON, MS..

SHERMAN. THANK YOU, SIR.

SO, JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE LISTING ONLINE NEXT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND, AT 6 P.M.

IN PALM BAY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE HEARING FROM THE 14 DIFFERENT APPLICANTS WHO SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS FOR THE $5 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDING. ARPA IS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING THAT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO THOSE 14 APPLICANTS WILL BE CONDUCTING THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND THEY WILL BE PRESENTING FOR 5 MINUTES EACH TO COUNSEL THEIR PROPOSALS.

THEIR PROPOSALS BASED ON THE SOLICITATION FOR PROPOSALS WE PUT OUT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE CERTAIN PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY SPECIFIC TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS, PUBLIC SERVICES, MEETING THE NEEDS OF THOSE IN CRISIS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, ALL PART OF THE FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS ON THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT.

THAT MEETING IS COMING UP NEXT THURSDAY.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JOIN US.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND CHATTER AND CONCERN REGARDING ONE OF THOSE PROPOSALS SPECIFIC TO DAILY BREAD.

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THAT PROPOSAL, ALONG WITH THE OTHER 13, IS PART OF WHAT WE'LL BE PRESENTED NEXT WEEK.

SO NO APPROVALS HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY THE CITY BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO DAILY BREAD OR TO THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY HAVE TO CONDUCT A FACILITY OR BUILD A FACILITY ON MALABAR ROAD.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYONE.

ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN FROM SOME INFORMATION WE PUT OUT, THE PROPOSAL FROM DAILY BREAD DOES HAVE A LOCATION ON MALABAR ROAD THAT CURRENTLY DOES NOT MEET THE LAND USE OR ZONING REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

THEREFORE, THERE WOULD BE, IF THEY DID SUBMIT A SITE PLAN FOR THAT, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC DISCOURSE ON THAT BECAUSE IF THEY SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN FOR THAT LOCATION, IT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH A PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AS WELL AS OUR CITY COUNCIL.

NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED YET, NOR HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS AT A STAFF LEVEL FROM DAILY BREAD OTHER THAN ONE OF 14 RPA PROPOSALS THAT WE WILL HEAR NEXT WEEK. SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT CITY MANAGER AT PALM BAY FLORIDA ORG AND I'LL ADD ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL WISHES ME TO SHARE.

YEAH, I'D LIKE FOR YOU.

I'M SORRY. EVERY MAN I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO TO REPEAT.

SO THERE'S CURRENTLY AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO APPLICATION FOR THAT PROPOSED SITE THAT EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THERE IS NO APPLICATION INTO OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO LAND USE, ZONING SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE ONLY APPLICATION WE'VE RECEIVED IS THE PROPOSAL, ALONG WITH THE OTHER 13 FOR USE OF THE $5 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M SORRY, DEPUTY MAYOR.

YOU'RE GOOD, MAYOR. JUST ONE LAST THING I WANT TO HARP ON, BECAUSE I KNOW MYSELF AND I'M SURE THE REST OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS AND CALLS REGARDING THIS MEETING.

SO I WANT TO REFER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL BEING VERY CAREFUL NOT TO SHOW WHETHER THEY OPPOSE OR SUPPORT ANY ONE OF THE APPLICANTS OVER ONE ANOTHER.

SO IF YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THAT, MISS SMITH, PLEASE.

YES, SIR. WHEN WE HAVE THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CERTAINLY BE FAIR, JUST AS WHEN YOU GO INTO COURT, THE LAST THING YOU WILL WANT IS FOR THE JUDGE WHO IS DECIDING TO GO OUT AND TELL EVERYBODY HOW HE'S GOING TO DECIDE ON YOUR CASE BEFORE YOU WALK INTO THE COURTROOM.

SO WHEN COUNCIL IS UP HERE, THEY'RE REALLY SERVING A LOT OF TIMES IN THE SAME CAPACITY OR SIMILAR.

SO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS, THEY ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME PRESENT THEIR CASE.

AND ONCE THEY'VE HEARD THE CASE OR THEY'VE HEARD THE EVIDENCE OR WHATEVER THE PRESENTATION IS, THEN THEY MAKE THEIR DECISIONS.

IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT FAIRNESS AND NOT MAKING DECISIONS PRIOR TO THE ITEM BEING BROUGHT BEFORE THEM.

MISS SMITH. WHAT IF.

IF, SAY, COUNCIL MEMBER DID MAKE A DECISION PRIOR WHETHER SUPPORTING OR AGAINST, WHAT RAMIFICATIONS COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN.

IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT THE MATTER IS.

CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS QUASI JUDICIAL AND THAT PERSON HAS ALREADY SHOWN THAT THEY'RE BIAS, THAT THAT COULD BE A.

GROUND FOR THE ATTORNEY TO SEEK TO DISQUALIFY THE PERSON FROM ACTUALLY MAKING A DECISION, BEING PART OF THE DECISION, OR IF THE PERSON DIDN'T DISQUALIFY THEMSELVES AS A METHOD FOR AN APPEAL.

BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T COUNSEL COUNSEL TO APPEAR BIASED WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY PREJUDGED AS A MATTER.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, STAN.

FAST, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY, THOSE WHO EMAILED ME ABOUT DAILY BREAD.

I HAVE RECEIVED YOUR EMAIL.

I READ YOUR EMAIL.

I DIDN'T RESPOND TO IT.

JUST LIKE THE CITY MANAGER SAID.

SO IF YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL, I TO MY CITY EMAIL.

I DO READ ALL MY EMAILS SO I DON'T RESPOND TO ALL OF THEM BECAUSE OF JUST WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID.

I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I DID PUT OUT COMMENTS REGARDING THIS, BUT ALL MY COMMENTS WERE CLEARED THROUGH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, I'M PROUD TO SAY, BECAUSE I DO TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY AS WELL AS YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

BUT ALL THE COMMENTS THAT I DID POST PUBLICLY AND ANSWERED ALL MY EMAILS TO DATE BECAUSE I'M SURE I HAVE SEVERAL OTHERS RIGHT NOW, BUT ALL THOSE HAVE BEEN CLEARED THROUGH THE CITY.

ATTORNEY CARRY ON WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

[00:45:03]

GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THE CONSTITUTION'S BILL OF RIGHTS GRANTS ME LIFE.

LIBERTY PROPERTY, I.E.

THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

SO IF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, JOE BIDEN, CAN CALL ME A DOMESTIC ENEMY, CALL ME A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER, CALL ME AN EXTREMIST JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT.

MAGA SUPPORTER.

RIGHT. AND HE DOES THIS ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.

SO ON LOCAL TELEVISION I CAN CALL HIM A FRIGGIN RECTAL OPENING AS GRANTED TO ME BY MY CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES UNDER MY FIRST AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ROBERT STACE, FOLLOWED BY FRANK COLOMBO.

I CAN'T GET RID OF IT.

GOOD EVENING. CAN I HAVE A MOMENT TO COMPOSE MYSELF AFTER THAT LAST REMARK? OH, MY GOODNESS. SETTLE DOWN, FOLKS.

GOOD EVENING, MR. FILIBERTO.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

A FEW WEEKS BACK WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAYING THAT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION HAD KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WITH REGARD TO FIRE AND POLICE STATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES CORRESPONDING COSTS OF LABOR AND EQUIPMENT.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THAT.

MY POINT IS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AFFECT THAT WOULD IMPACT FEES.

I'M. MR. FOSTER DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO MEET WITH YOU, BUT I WENT DOWN IN THE BACK OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS SUMMERFIELD, AND WENT INTO STONE BRIER.

OF THOSE 333 HOUSES THAT THEY FINISHED BUILDING, I DIDN'T SEE ONE UNOCCUPIED, SIR.

WE ARE STILL IN A VERY HOT MARKET.

I'VE TAKEN A SIDE NOTE HERE.

I WAS AT THE LAST ZONING MEETING.

ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS HAD SAID, WELL, IF YOU PUT A MORATORIUM ON US, WE MAY NOT COME BACK.

I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO SWALLOW HIS TONGUE AFTER HE MADE THAT REMARK.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF DEVELOPERS IN PALM BAY.

LIKE I SAID, WE MY WIFE AND I DO MEALS ON WHEELS.

CAN'T BELIEVE ALL THE EMPTY LOTS THAT ARE NOT EMPTY ANYMORE.

THEY GOT THE CLEAR IN THEM.

THEY'RE PUTTING CEMENT ON IT TO CONTINUE TO BUILD HOUSES.

SO PLEASE DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND.

THIS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN FLORIDA.

THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT. POOR, POOR US.

YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT COME BACK.

THAT'S A BUNCH OF BUNK, SIR.

SO I'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.

YOU KNOW, REMEMBER WHEN DEVELOPERS ARE HERE.

THEY'RE HERE FOR ONE REASON, AND THEN THEY'RE GONE.

MR. MAYOR, OVER A YEAR AGO, YOU WANTED TO PUT IN THAT BREAKAWAY FENCE THAT BORDERS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, STONE BRIER, BECAUSE YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN SAYING THAT 2 MINUTES CAN SAVE SOMEBODY WITH CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE, WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE PROBLEM I SEE HERE IS WITH ALL THIS RAPID GROWTH.

IS THAT THE BUILDING BOOM IS NEGATIVELY AFFECTING THE SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AH, OF OUR CITIZENS.

ZONING CHANGES ARE GOING FROM READY TO COMMERCIAL TO HEAVY INDUSTRY AND BACK AND FORTH.

YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT.

WHEN I TALK TO THE FIRE CHIEF AND I TALKED TO THE POLICE OFFICER, WHEN YOU PUT RESIDENTS IN DANGER OF GETTING IMMEDIATE HELP FROM EMTS, YOU'RE RISKING THEIR LIVES.

DOES ANY ONE OF YOU WANT TO RISK YOUR FAMILY'S LIVES? I MEAN, I'M TALKING TO THESE FOLKS TWICE A MONTH.

5 MINUTES. 2 MINUTES.

HOW CAN YOU STAND UP FOR THAT? 2 MINUTES AND THEN LET 7 MINUTES OR 6 MINUTES GO BY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY SERVICES? THESE ARE THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVE HERE TO PROTECT.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE I GOT TO BACK UP.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN ANY INDUSTRY WHERE I'VE SEEN US PUT SAFETY ON THE BACK BURNER.

YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER MORATORIUM.

THANK YOU. FRANK COLOMBO, FOLLOWED BY PHILLIP CORCORAN.

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I HAVE TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST BEING I DON'T WANT TO BE THE KILLJOY, BUT THE HOLIDAY LIGHT SHOW HAS BEEN MOVED TO FRED POPPI PARK FROM WICKHAM PARK.

THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A TRAFFIC PLAN.

THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WE'RE GOING TO WING.

IT IS THE WHAT THE PROMOTER HAS SAID.

SO I WANT TO KNOW, DID WE HAVE A PLAN? DID AN APPLICATION COME THROUGH WITH A PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED THAT INVOLVED THE FIRE DEPART OR I'M SORRY, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR SERVICES? AND ARE WE PAYING FOR THAT AS CITIZENS OR IS THAT GRATIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MAKING MONEY FROM THE HOLIDAY SHOW? THEY ARE AND DON'T WANT TO BE A KILLJOY, BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

MALABAR ROAD, THAT PARK HAS ONE ENTRANCE, ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT, AND HE'S PLANNING ON DOING FOUR WAY TRAFFIC.

IN THE MIDDLE OF 6:00 TRAFFIC AT NIGHT.

SO JUST A THOUGHT.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IS FOR MY LAST 2 MINUTES IS FROM THE ASPECT OF A RETIRED VOLUNTEER FIREMAN.

SIX YEARS. ROCHESTER, NEW YORK.

I WAS ON THE TIP IN FIRES, WAITING FOR THAT NEXT TRUCK TO SHOW UP.

AND LET ME TELL YOU.

8 MINUTES IS A LIFETIME.

WHEN YOU'RE SITTING THERE WITH A HOSE AND YOU HAVE A FIRE IN FRONT OF YOU AND SOMEONE'S HOUSE IS BURNING.

OKAY. WE HAD BIGGER PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE HAD BASEMENTS, WE HAD ATTICS, WE HAD OTHER ISSUES.

THE ISSUES DOWN HERE IS THE HOUSES ARE TOO DARN CLOSE TOGETHER.

FIRES JUMP.

THEY DON'T STAY.

THEY GO OFF. IT TAKES OFF IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR.

ARE WE WAITING FOR A TRAGEDY BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON THIS? THE FIRE CHIEF HERE, I'M SURE, WILL.

IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN ON A TRUCK BEFORE, GET YOUR BUNKER GEAR ON.

GET YOUR HELMET. GET YOUR SCUBA ON AND GO FOLLOW YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR A NIGHT.

IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES TO WHAT THESE GUYS AND GALS GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. PHILIP COCHRANE, FOLLOWED BY MATT RUSS.

PHILLIP CORCORAN 1878 LYNBROOK DRIVE.

I WANT TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES HERE AND NEIGHBORS AND RED SHIRTS FOR COMING OUT AGAIN, REMINDING THE CITY COUNCIL WHY THEY'RE HERE.

I WANT TO THANK THE EFFORTS OF MS..

BARNARD, AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS FINALLY APPROACHING LEVELS NEEDED TO HANDLE THE EXPLOSION OF GROWTH.

AND PALM BAY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK DR.

ANDERSON FOR HIS WORK ON CHAPTER 185, WHICH, WHEN ADOPTED, WILL STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE THE APPROVAL PROCESS AND REMOVE SOME OF THE LOAD FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

NOW, CONCERNING THE MORATORIUM, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE SHOULD NEVER TEXT AND DRIVE AT THE SAME TIME.

THE REASON IS OBVIOUS YOU CAN'T DO TWO THINGS CORRECTLY AT THE SAME TIME.

I THINK IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE TO ASK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO WORK ON NEW DEVELOPMENTS UNDER THE OLD CHAPTER 185 AND TO FIND A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISION 24 2040 AT THE SAME TIME.

WE NEED TO GET VISION 2440 DONE CORRECTLY.

IF WE DON'T DO A GREAT JOB ON THIS PLAN, WE HAVE WASTED EVERYBODY'S TIME AND ALSO LOST THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX MANY EXISTING PROBLEMS. ALONG WITH THAT, WE NEED TO ANALYZE THE TRAFFIC FROM ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING SOME ADDITIONAL CAPABILITY FOR RANDOM HOUSES BEING BUILT ALL AROUND THE CITY.

NOW. UNFORTUNATELY, MY FRIEND TIM BLAND COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, SO HE ASKED ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS FOR HIM.

HE IS REQUESTING A REFERENDUM FOR THE CITY TO BUY THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY, HIRE A REPUTABLE GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT FIRM LIKE GOLF BOULEVARD, LEASE OUT THE RESTAURANT TO AN EXISTING EXPERIENCED RESTAURANT TOUR, PERHAPS TWISTY CONE.

AND HE STATES THAT IT'S A WIN WIN ALL AROUND, AND THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. MATT RUSS, FOLLOWED BY MITCH NEEDLEMAN.

GOOD EVENING. MATT ROSS 2131 LYNBROOK.

I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER AND EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED

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THAT WAS THIS LAST SUNDAY.

IT WAS FANTASTIC.

SO MARY LOU AND I ATTENDED IT AND IT WAS THE RIGHT TOUCH TO PROVIDE REMEMBRANCE.

IT WAS A SOLEMN OCCASION.

THE SPEAKERS WERE RIGHT ON TARGET WITH WHAT THEY SHARED WITH EVERYONE.

I WAS ESPECIALLY MOVED BY THE FIRE CHIEF OR FIRE CAPTAIN AND NOT SURE WHAT HIS TITLE WAS WHO TALKED ABOUT SURVIVING THE FIRST DAY.

BY THE SECOND DAY, HE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE MORGUE, THE FIELD MORGUE, TO TRY TO HELP IDENTIFY THE FIREMEN AND THE POLICEMEN WHO WERE RECOVERED FROM THE TOWERS.

I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE CHALLENGING SITUATION TO BE IN.

AND IT'S WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY DID IN THE AFTERMATH OF THAT.

IT'S AN UNSUNG SET OF HEROES.

AND I JUST I JUST WAS MOVED BY HIS PRESENTATION.

SO IT WAS AN EXCELLENT DEAL.

I HOPE THE CITY CONTINUES TO DO THAT.

IT ENDED WITH SOMETHING THAT I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE.

MY GRANDFATHER WAS A FIREMAN, BUT I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE FOUR OR FIVES.

AND THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO END THIS.

SO THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

MITCH NEEDLEMAN, FOLLOWED BY JOSE VELASQUEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS MITCH NEEDLEMAN.

I RESIDE AT 2317 BIG STREET IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO INVITE YOU TO A CELEBRATION OF LIFE.

MY WIFE, JOANIE, WAS SOME OF YOU KNOW, HAS PASSED AWAY.

SHE PASSED AWAY IN JUNE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE HER LIFE AT THE YELLOW DOG CAFE THIS SUNDAY, ON SUNDAY, THE 25TH AT 1 P.M..

AND YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO IT.

JOHNNY STARTED WORKING FOR THE CITY OF BAY UNDER POLICE CHIEF CRUZ CAM.

AND SO MOST OF THEM DON'T KNOW WHO HE WAS, BUT HE WAS A GREAT CHIEF AND SHE STARTED IN THE RECORDS DEPARTMENT.

DOING RECORDS AND WORKING WITH THE OFFICERS IN WHICH TO GET THEIR REPORTS IN LINE AND EVERYTHING WAS NECESSARY FOR COURT.

SHE'S WELL KNOWN FOR THAT.

LATER, SHE BECAME SUPERVISOR OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE IN PALM BAY, AND SHE GOT RECOGNIZED FOR HER EXTRA SERVICES THAT SHE DID WHEN CREWS ATTACKED.

WHEN DIXIE. SHE THEN MOVED OVER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS SHE WORKED.

DILIGENTLY, WHICH TO MAKE SURE PALM BAY HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD NEWS FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD HERE.

SHE WAS THEIR FIRST PIO.

BUT BEFORE THAT, SHE BROKE THE GLASS CEILINGS HERE IN PALM BAY.

SHE BECAME THE FIRST FEMALE FIRE INSPECTOR IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND NOW YOU HAVE A WOMAN THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SHE OPENED DOORS.

SHE ALSO OPENED DOORS AS YOUR AMBASSADOR TO HELP KIDS.

IF ANY OF YOU REMEMBER HER, SHE WAS INTO HELPING CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY DURING HOLIDAYS.

THE FIRE CHIEF GREEN GAVE HER AN OPEN INVITATION TO SERVE PEOPLE PALM BAY AT CHRISTMAS TIME THAT NEEDED HELP.

SHE HELD MANY PARTIES RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WERE NEEDED.

I SAT BEHIND ONE COUPLE ONE TIME AND THEY HAD SANTA CLAUS UP THERE.

AND A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS SEVEN OR EIGHT WANT TO GO.

I HEARD HIS MOTHER SAY, SON, THIS WILL BE YOUR ONLY CHRISTMAS.

SO JONI HELPED.

A LOT OF PEOPLE. SHE HELPED WITH THE POWER PROGRAM HERE AND MADE SURE IT HAD FUNDING AND OTHER PROGRAMS ARE TO. BUT SHE ALSO RECOGNIZED NOT EVERY CHILD PLAYED SPORTS.

AND THOSE CHILDREN NEEDED HELP ALSO.

SO SHE STARTED A MUSIC PROGRAM.

AT RISK. KIDS CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY AN INSTRUMENT DURING THE SUMMERTIME.

JONI'S DONE A LOT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

FORMER REPRESENTATIVE MITCH NEEDLEMAN, OUR HEART GOES OUT TO YOU.

THANK YOU. TRULY, TRULY.

SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, SIR.

SHE WAS A REMARKABLE WOMAN.

I THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION.

GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IF I MAY, FILIBERTO.

I MAY ALSO ADD, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

YEAH, I REMEMBER ALL THE STUFF YOUR WIFE, MRS. NEWMAN, USED TO DO FOR OUR CITY.

AND ONE SPECIFIC THING I REMEMBER IS WHERE SHE USED TO DRIVE THAT TRAILER AROUND WITH THE FIREHOUSE.

THE FIREHOUSE. RIGHT.

AND SHE WOULD FILL IT UP WITH SMOKE AND TEACH KIDS HOW TO GET OUT OF A FIRE.

I REMEMBER CRAWLING ON MY HANDS IN THE EAST ARMY, ARMY STYLE, CRAWLING THROUGH A WINDOW, AND SHE'S IN THERE, SHE'S WHIPPING YOU.

SHE'S TEACHING YOU HOW TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE WITH THE FIRE.

IT WAS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.

I DID IT TWO OR THREE TIMES AT SAINT JOSEPH'S AND IT WAS REMARKABLE.

YOU REMEMBER? OF COURSE I DID.

OF COURSE I DO. SHE ALSO STARTED THE SWIM PROGRAM HERE, TOO, WITH GUS AND GOLDIE, THOSE GREAT BIG FISH.

SO SHE DID A LOT FOR ME FROM PALM BAY IN WHICH TO PUT YOU ON THE MAP IN A POSITIVE MANNER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JOSE VELAZQUEZ FOLLOWED BY RUTH CALVO.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOSE VELASQUEZ.

JUST MOVED INTO PALM BAY ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO.

I MEAN, FROM WEST MELVIN, FLORIDA.

THE REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE WE LIVE AT WHAT'S CALLED VIRIDIAN EDGEWOOD COMMUNITY.

AND ACROSS FROM US IS THE FRED POLK REGIONAL PARK.

AND EVERY SUNDAY, FOR BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 12 NOON UNTIL ABOUT EIGHT AND 9:00 AT NIGHT, WE CAN HEAR MUSIC BLASTING TO A POINT THAT WHEN WE'RE INSIDE OUR HOMES, EVERYTHING VIBRATES.

NOW, WE HAVE ADDRESSED THIS WITH FRED POPEY HIMSELF.

I SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY AND HE DID SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

BUT IT'S REALLY SERIOUS.

AND I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF SOMEONE FROM THE COUNCIL WOULD ACTUALLY VISIT OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE ST JOHN'S PRESERVE COMMUNITY, SO YOU CAN HEAR THE INTENSITY OF THE MUSIC. NOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST EVERYONE THAT GOES TO THE PARK THAT'S PLAYING THE MUSIC BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY REASONABLE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE USING PAVILION NUMBER SIX, AND THEY HAVE A SPEAKER THE SIZE OF A REFRIGERATOR.

I MEAN, THIS THING IS HUGE.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS THEY SELECT THIS ONE AREA IS BECAUSE IT'S THE FARTHEST LOCATION IN THE PARK.

SO THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY DISRUPTING OR MAKING THAT MUCH NOISE.

BUT WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT.

WE HAVE THE LAKE, THE CANAL, THE LAKE, AND THEN IS OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW, THERE'S ONLY 12 HOMEOWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THUS FAR.

IT'S EVENTUALLY IT'LL BE 168 HOMES.

BUT THERE'S LIKE THREE OTHER TWO OTHER FAMILIES THAT ARE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT.

THE OTHER FOLKS COULD NOT MAKE IT, BUT WE WERE REALLY APPRECIATIVE THERE WOULD BE SOME KIND OF RULE OR REGULATION THAT WOULD LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE BEING USED IN THE PARK. PARKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR PASSIVE USE, AND WHEN SOMEONE'S BLARING THE MUSIC THE WAY THEY ARE, THAT MEANS THAT OTHER FOLKS WON'T BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THE PARK BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A PASSIVE PARK, NOT A CONCERT.

NOW, I DO BELIEVE THAT EVERY NOW AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG EVENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SPEAKERS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THAT.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

BUT FOR EVERY SUNDAY SINCE WE'VE BEEN LIVING THERE, FOR THESE PEOPLE TO BE USING THESE HUGE SPEAKERS AND NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S UNFAIR.

SO MY PLEA TO THE CONSULATE TO SEE IF THEY CAN WE CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE WITH THESE WITH THIS ORGANIZATION THAT MEETS THERE EVERY SUNDAY.

IF THEY CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, USE A SMALLER SPEAKER, WE'RE NOT DEPRIVING THEM OF NOT BEING ABLE TO USE THE PARK AND PLAY THE MUSIC THAT THEY SO ENJOY.

IT'S REGGAE, AND I HAPPEN TO ENJOY REGGAE MUSIC.

IN FACT, I GO THROUGH CROWNE PLAZA EVERY SUNDAY, ENJOY.

BUT I WANT TO DO IT ON MY TIME.

I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO IT BLARING INTO MY HOUSE AND THE VIBRATION.

IT'S JUST OVERWHELMING.

SO YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THIS MATTER WOULD BE REALLY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. RUTH COUPLE FOLLOWED BY NATHAN WHITE.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS RUTH CRAWFORD, 935 DOUGLAS STREET.

I COME TO YOU TODAY VOICED MY SUPPORT FOR ORDINANCE 22, 2022, 100.

AND THANK YOU FOR MOVING ME UP.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

[01:05:01]

THERE'S ONLY REALLY TWO ONE ROAD, MY ROAD THAT GOES IN AND OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT PUT THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS AS ITS FIRST PRIORITY.

THE APPROVAL OF A NEW CITY OFFICE BUILDING WAS, IN MY OPINION, THE WRONG DECISION.

WHEN THE POLICE AND FIRE CHIEFS HAVE REPEATEDLY, REPEATEDLY, WITHOUT FAIL, REPORTED TO THIS COUNCIL THAT THEY ARE SERIOUSLY SHORT STAFFED AND CANNOT ADEQUATELY PROTECT THE CURRENT POPULATION.

THE IMPACT FEES ARE NOT AT AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL, RESULTING IN A SHORTAGE OF FIRE AND POLICE COVERAGE RESULTING IN UNSAFE CONDITIONS FOR CITIZENS.

THERE IS ALSO A SCARE TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE IS A CHURCH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONSIDERING REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE THEM WITH AN EXEMPTION TO THIS MORATORIUM. CHURCH IS PLANNING TO SUBMIT A REQUEST TO REZONE AND SELL A PARCEL OF THEIR LAND TO A DEVELOPER WHO PROPOSES TO BUILD A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.

IN THE PAST, THE CHURCH IN GOOD FAITH HAS NO TO NOTIFY NEIGHBORS OF ANYTHING THE CHURCH IS PLANNING THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN THIS CASE, I'VE ONLY HEARD ABOUT IT FROM CONGREGATION MEMBERS.

I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THE CHURCH TO SEND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AN INVITATION TO A COMMUNITY IMPACT MEETING TO HEAR HOW THIS SALE COULD AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS LIVING AROUND THE CHURCH.

I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT CHURCH IS NOT ACTING IN GOOD FAITH TO ITS NEIGHBORS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION OR CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE CHURCH TO INFORM ITS NEIGHBORS OF THE SERIOUS IMPACT THE CHURCH WOULD BE SETTING IN MOTION.

SHOULD A REZONING BE SUCCESSFUL, IT WOULD IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NEGATIVELY IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS.

A HUGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WOULD INCREASE THE ALREADY SAFE UN TRAFFIC TRAFFIC AND UNSAFE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS THAT HAVE IMPACTED MY NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING BUILT AT A HIGHER RATE OF SPEED.

TO CATCH THIS BUILDING WAVE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED IN, THE LIKELIHOOD OF INCREASED CRIME AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS TO THE POSSIBLE REZONING THE CHURCH PROPERTY IS PROPOSING. WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE ANY STREETLIGHTS, ADDING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EVER GROWING LIST OF AREAS THAT NEED RESURFACING AND STREETLIGHTS.

THE ADDITION OF A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT SOMETHING WE DESIRED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WAS NOT IN OUR PLAN.

WHEN SELECTING THE HOME WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN, THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS AT RISK OF OPERATING IN THE RED AND HAS SEEN TO SEEM FIT TO IMPACT ITS CITIZENS WITH PROPOSALS OF TAX HIKES.

AT A TIME IN OUR COUNTRY THAT INFLATION IS AT A 40 YEAR HIGH AND CITIZENS CANNOT AFFORD THE BASICS, IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR A CHANGE IN STAFFING WHO CANNOT SEE FIT TO OPERATE WITHIN THE BUDGET GIVEN THEM BY THE CITIZENS.

WE ARE EXPECTED TO OPERATE WITHIN OUR BUDGETS AND SO SHOULD THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ITS STAFF, ITS CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, NATHAN WHITE, FOLLOWED BY JOHN BURTON.

NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.

I WANTED TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL AN EXPERIENCE JUST RECENTLY.

ON MONDAY, I WAS BLESSED TO PARTICIPATE IN A FOOD FREE FOOD DISTRIBUTION EVENT.

IT WAS HELD AT FRED POPPI REGIONAL PARK.

AN EVENT OF ITS KIND HAD NOT BEEN HELD SINCE DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

THEY REQUESTED FROM FARM SHARE WHO THEY SENATOR EXCUSE ME, OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE, RANDY FINE, PARTNERED WITH IN THAT LAST OCCASION, REQUESTED FOOD FOR 500 FAMILIES AND HARDLY 100 VEHICLES SHOWED UP.

THEY WERE BEGGING PEOPLE TO TAKE THE FOOD.

THIS TIME WE REQUESTED FOOD FOR 500 FAMILIES AND HAD WELL OVER 1000 CARS SHOW UP.

WE RECEIVED WORD FROM ONE OF THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT AT ITS MAXIMUM, THE LINE OF CARS, LINE OF CARS STRETCHED APPROXIMATELY TO CITY HALL FROM THE BACK OF PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK, APPROXIMATELY 5.14 MILES, I BELIEVE THEY SAID.

THE NEED IS TRULY OVERWHELMING AND IT SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED.

THERE WILL BE, IN FACT, A NEW DATE, ANOTHER FOOD DISTRIBUTION EVENT IN OCTOBER IN RESPONSE TO THIS THIS NEED WHICH THE DATA BELIEVE. I THINK IT WAS SHARED TODAY.

I'LL SHARE IT MYSELF SHORTLY.

BUT IT ALSO THE SITUATION ALSO HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE FULLNESS OF THAT NEED AS A CITY.

IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF AN ISSUE, COMPLETELY STOPPING TRAFFIC ON ONE OF OUR MAJOR ROADS FOR HOURS BECAUSE OF HOW GREAT THE NEED IS

[01:10:01]

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

IF WE MOVED.

A FOUR STORY.

AND MORE OF A COMPLEX TWO OF THE GRACE PLACE LOCATION TO PALM BAY WHEN IT IS ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING THE ENTIRETY OF BREVARD COUNTY.

IT WAS ALREADY SOUTH OF CENTER AND NOW IT WOULD BE ALMOST AS FAR SOUTH AS IT COULD GET IN THE COUNTY, MAKING IT COMPLETELY UNREACHABLE TO THOSE IN NEED IN THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

IT IS A NEED THAT IS EXTREMELY AND PAINFULLY REAL, BUT IT IS A NEED THAT WOULD NOT BE PROPERLY MET HERE, AT LEAST NOT YET. ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE FIRE NEEDS THAT WERE MENTIONED AS WELL.

WITH A SITUATION LIKE THAT, EVERYONE IN THAT COMPLEX WOULD BE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER IN ORDER TO FIT EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE IN THERE.

AND SO WITH THE $7 MILLION OF ARPA FUNDS THAT COULD HAVE GONE TOWARDS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STILL BEING FIRMLY IN PLACE TOWARDS THE NEW CITY BUILDING, WE ARE NOT READY FOR THE GREATEST PLACE IN PALM BAY, UNFORTUNATELY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOHN BATTELLE.

I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SAYING IT INCORRECTLY, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO STEAMING.

I THINK THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL AND ALL THE CIVIC AND PUBLIC SERVANTS HERE IN PALM BAY.

IT'S A NICE COMMUNITY.

STEADFAST, SIR. THAT'S A BREACH.

AND I WOULD PREFER THAT INDIVIDUAL TO COME THROUGH THIS FRONT DOOR, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. CARRY ON, SIR.

THANK YOU. SO I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT THE SERVICE OF THE COUNCIL AND THE FOLKS THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S NICE TO BE A MEMBER OF A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE.

SO WE'RE EXPERIENCING THAT GROWTH AS SEEN HERE THIS EVENING WITH FACILITIES AND OTHER CONCERNS THAT COME WITH THOSE CHALLENGES.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR IS TO CONTINUE TO FIND THE BALANCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE BEAUTIFUL WILDLIFE WE HAVE HERE IN PALM BAY.

IT'S REALLY EXTRAORDINARY.

SO WE HAVE THESE LITTLE POCKETS OF WHAT ARE LIKE MOTHER NATURE'S LITTLE MIRACLES.

I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ADVOCATE TO TRY TO PRESERVE THEM WHERE IT'S REASONABLE TO DO SO.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION OF WILDLIFE ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

I THINK ONE SUCH EXAMPLE I CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO IS THE FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY ONE.

THERE'S A LARGE DEVELOPMENT IN THE WORKS AND IT'S REALLY NICE.

IT'S A HIGH QUALITY LUXURY HOUSING, I THINK, WHICH IS GOOD TO HAVE.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE THE ARPA GRANT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE IN NEED.

SO WE SEE A NICE SUPPORT, A BROAD SPECTRUM OF SUPPORT FOR HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THAT'S A CREDIT TO THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THERE'S A THIS PROPERTY ADJOINS THE TURKEY CREEK CANAL AND THERE'S A SMALL FINGER WHERE IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF WILDLIFE.

WE CAN GO IN DEPTH SOME OTHER TIME IF THAT'S DESIRED.

BUT IT'S ALL THE DOLPHINS, MANATEES, TURTLES, ALLIGATORS, OSPREY, HERONS.

THEY'RE ALL THERE. THERE'S A SMALL FRESHWATER POND ALONG THE CREEK.

SO MY REASON I WANT TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT, AS I BELIEVE THAT THE FRESHWATER POND AND THE NATURAL WILDLIFE THAT EXISTS ALONG THE SHORELINE CAN BE PRESERVED WHILE STILL ALLOWING THE PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD AND ACHIEVING, I THINK, A BULK OR MOST OF ITS MAJOR OBJECTIVES WITH THE HOUSING AND WHATNOT, AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT'S DESIRE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE WATER.

I WOULD SAY THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A MARINA, SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THE HOUSING EFFORT IN THAT REGARD.

I UNDERSTAND ALSO A MEMBER OF THE MARINA IS IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE SEEMS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FOLKS TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THERE BE CONSIDERATION TO PRESERVE THE LITTLE FRESHWATER POND AND THAT SHORELINE WHERE THE MANATEES FEED AND THE NATURE, MOTHER NATURE FLOURISHES.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ASK FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.

YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING, SIR.

HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY, MA'AM.

THE ITEM THAT HE'S REFERRING TO, DO YOU HAVE THE DATE THAT THAT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL? I APOLOGIZE. NO, THERE'S NO NEED FOR YOU TO APOLOGIZE, SIR.

YOU. YOU SPEAKING TO US ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT WE WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION ON THAT TODAY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

I'LL ASK JOAN BROWN, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, TO GET THAT FROM YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE. I BELIEVE THAT ITEM IS JUST ON PLANNING AND ZONING RECENTLY.

SO TYPICALLY THEY GO TO THE THE NEXT MONTH, THE FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

SO WE'LL CONFIRM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THIS YOUNG LADY HERE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP YOU INFORMED AS TO WHEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION.

[01:15:07]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

WE MOVE NEW BUSINESS.

WE MOVE NEW BUSINESS TO RIGHT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO I CAN JUST FIND.

SO WE'RE A NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAME SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION.

REQUESTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FOR CO-SPONSORSHIP OF UNITED THIRD BRIDGE'S 25TH ANNUAL PUERTO RICAN DAY PARADE AND MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

THE I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TOO, SO THEY MAY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

SO THE PARADE IS IS GOING TO BE HELD THIS YEAR, OCTOBER 20 SECONDS.

WE HOLD IT HERE AT CITY HALL.

IT STARTS ON EL DRON GOES DOWN MALABAR TO CITY HALL.

WE HAVE A PREEXISTING SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH UTB.

SO THE CITY PREVIOUSLY HAS, AS I'VE MENTIONED, TO COUNCIL PROVIDES POLICE TRAFFIC, LOGISTICS, A STAGING AREA AND AN AREA FOR THE PARADE.

AND WE ALSO PROVIDE CITY HALL AS A HOST SITE FOR FOR IT.

THE REQUESTS, THOUGH, FROM UTB FOR THIS EVENT, THIS YEAR'S EVENT IS A CONSIDERATION OF CO SPONSORSHIP THAT WOULD BE VALUED AT AROUND AT 2030 $5, WHICH WOULD BE FOUR STAGE RENTAL WAIVER OF THE STAGE RENTAL FEE, THE SPECIAL EVENT FEE SET UP AND BREAKDOWN FEES FOR THE STAGE, THE GENERATOR RELATED TO THE STAGE AS WELL AS SOME STAFF RELATED TO CLEAN UP AT THE SITE AND HANDLING THE GENERATOR AND STAGE.

SO THE VALUE BEING 2030 $5.

THIS CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST DOES MEET THE POLICIES REQUIREMENTS WHERE THE EVENT HAS TO BE FREE, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND MEET THE GOAL OF ADVANCING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO AND PRIDE IN BEING A MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO STEP FORWARD, MA'AM, AND SAY YOUR NAME? SAMANTHA NAZARIO, 2433 BURNS AVENUE, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

I AM THE DIRECTOR OF ENTERTAINMENT FOR UNITED THIRD BRIDGE, AND I AM ALSO THE DIRECT ENTERTAINMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE 25TH ANNUAL PUERTO RICAN DAY PARADE.

SO IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

EPI MAYOR JOHNSON HAS A QUESTION I DID AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SAMANTHA, FOR COMING BEFORE US.

AND MY QUESTIONS WERE REGARDING BECAUSE I HADN'T HAD THIS DOCUMENT BEFORE, BUT THE MEMORANDUM OF SETTLEMENT BEFORE, I GUESS MY QUESTION OR MORE OF A STATEMENT, IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE THIS IS ALREADY A CO-SPONSORSHIP, LIKE AN EXISTING CO-SPONSORSHIP SINCE 2008, LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE THERE'S CRITERIA SET THAT THE CITY HAS TO CONTINUALLY PROVIDE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO PARTS WHERE UTB POSED TO CONTINUE YEAR AND YEAR OUT.

SO I DIDN'T I DIDN'T MY QUESTION, I GUESS IF YOU CAN ELABORATE, I DIDN'T SEE THE NEED FOR SPONSORSHIP SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE A SETTLEMENT CO-SPONSORSHIP IN MY EYES. SO WELL. THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WITH PALM BAY WAS ACTUALLY A LAWSUIT TO ALLOW THE FORMER OUR FOUNDER, MR. LOPEZ, THAT PASSED AWAY IN JANUARY 2021 TO ALLOW HIM TO HAVE THE PARADE.

WHAT IS HIS NAME? MAYOR GUYER.

I'M ATHENA RAY, THE ONE THAT PROPOSED LOCALLY HIS WEIGHT.

HE WAS THE FIRST MAYOR THAT ACTUALLY WORKED WITH SAM ON THE INITIAL PARADE.

THIS IS OUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY.

YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAD A TWO YEAR HIATUS WITH COVID.

MR. LOPEZ PASSED.

WE ARE BLEEDING AT THE SEAMS. WE ARE PULLING EVERYTHING WE HAVE TOGETHER TO BRING THIS EVENT AND TO KEEP THIS.

THIS IS YOUR BIGGEST PARADE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY BOVARD COUNTY'S BIGGEST AND OLDEST STANDING PARADE TO DATE.

SO WE BRING WE HOPE THAT THE REVENUE THAT WE BRING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE INCLUSION THERE'S GOING TO BE.

WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH BP'S EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, MOST MANY BUSINESSES AROUND.

WE ARE BRINGING ARTISTS IN FROM OTHER STATES REVENUES TO THE AREA.

SO WE WERE HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO CO PARTNER WITH CO-SPONSOR AND PARTNER WITH US SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BRING THIS EVENT FOR FREE TO PERMIT.

BE THAT. THANK YOU.

AND BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I WAS LOOKING INTO IT, BECAUSE ON WHAT LIKE ON THE SETTLEMENT PART FOR LIKE TRASH IT SAYS UTPB WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.

[01:20:08]

BUT THEN ON THE SPONSORSHIP IT SAYS THE CITY.

BECAUSE THIS TIME I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

THIS TIME, WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH FIRE POLICE AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, MR. POPPY WASN'T THERE, BUT DANIEL WAS THERE, AND SOMEONE ELSE FROM MR. POPPY OFFICE WAS THERE.

THEY EXPLAINED TO US THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TECHNICALLY YOUR CLEANERS PARADE BECAUSE MY HUSBAND IS SITTING OVER THERE AND HE DOES NOT LEAVE THAT FIELD UNTIL THERE IS NOT ONE PIECE OF GARBAGE ON THAT FIELD.

SO WE THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED TO US WHAT YOU GUYS NEED.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU THERE.

WE DO CLEAN UP. WE CLEAN UP ALL DAY LONG.

THE PORTA POTTIES, YOUR BATHROOM.

WE MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING'S LEFT UNATTENDED.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN THERE, BUT IT'S AN EXTREMELY CLEAN, NICE, FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT.

SO AS I SAID, WE'RE COMING TO YOU GUYS OUT OF OUR LONG TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH WITH PALM BAY.

WE COULD YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ASIDE FROM MR. LOPEZ'S LAWSUIT, WE COULD HE COULD HAVE TOOK THE PARADE ANYWHERE ELSE.

AND HE FOUGHT TO HAVE IT HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST DIVERSE COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTY.

SO WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE UP TO MR. LOPEZ'S LEGACY, WHICH IS NOT EASY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE WALKING DOWN SAMUEL C LOPEZ WAY.

IT'S KIND OF BIG SHOES TO FILL.

SO WE'VE ALL COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS BIGGER AND BETTER THAN ANYTHING WE'VE HAD BEFORE AND TO HONOR HIS MEMORY AS WELL.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS? THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. BILL BATTEN. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. YOU'VE ALL BEEN ON COUNCIL LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I ADDRESS WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

AND THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM WAS WE DID NOT HAVE A POLICY THAT HAD TO BE MET.

SO THAT THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.

THAT'S WHAT CAME OUT OF THE JAY LEAK INVESTIGATION ALSO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY SET FORTH.

AND PART OF THAT POLICY WAS THE GUIDELINES BY WHICH WE WOULD GRANT OR DENY APPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT UNDER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT OR GOVERNMENT IDENTITY, THAT WANTED TO USE THE RESOURCES FOR FREE.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT I THAT THE POLICY HAS NOW BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

BUT WITH THAT.

WE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT FILED LAWSUITS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WHEN YOU READ THE APPLE APPLICATION, IT SAYS, WELL, IT WAS GOING TO BE TOO EXPENSIVE TO FIGHT IT IN COURT.

THAT'S WHAT THE DETERMINING FACTOR WAS.

THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE REASON, SAY SEEING.

I'M DOING ALL GOOD BECAUSE I'M A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

YOU SHOULD GIVE ME ALL OF THESE RESOURCES FOR FREE THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF PALM BAY BOUGHT.

WE BOUGHT THESE RESOURCES THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE A SOURCE OF REVENUE POTENTIALLY TO OFFSET FOR THIS EVENT COMING BACK INTO THE CITY.

THE INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER THAT PAID FOR IT DOES NOT GET THAT BENEFIT.

BUT THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T PAY TAXES DO ONE MORE ITEM WHERE IT'S VERY HYPOCRITICAL ON HOW YOU PICK WHO GETS AND WHO DOESN'T.

I. WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACT, WHEN I SAW FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THERE WAS NO CHARGE PER SETTLEMENT.

IN THE SETTLEMENT.

BECAUSE OF THE COURT ORDER.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT GET PAID.

I JUST ATTENDED A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THE CITY DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE TO PAY FOR ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO NOW BECAUSE OF A NON PAYING ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE TO PAY THE OVERTIME FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A BUSINESS WHEN WE'RE ALREADY STRESSED AND DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW.

AND YOU WERE AT THAT MEETING ALSO WHEN YOU PRESENTED THAT TO ME.

SECOND STATEMENT.

ACCORDING TO COURT ORDER, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE A SIX MONTH LETTER, RECORD SIX MONTH LETTER REQUEST TO THE CITY MANAGER.

I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT IF THAT SIX MONTH LETTER WAS BEING PRESENTED THAT BECAUSE I ATTEND THESE MEETINGS, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THAT CAME UP AT SOME MEETING WHERE THEY SAID YES, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING IT AGAIN, JUST LIKE WE'RE HAVING TO FOLLOW THIS PROCESS UNDER THE PROCEDURES.

BOTTOM LINE, THE COURT ORDER SAYS WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO PARADE.

THEIR COURT ORDER SAYS WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE STAGE AND THE SETUP.

AND THE COURT ORDER SAYS WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT'S COMING OUT OF OUR GENERAL BUDGET SHOULD BE PAID FOR BY THIS ORGANIZATION.

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THEY'VE SUBMIT UNDER OUR NEW POLICY, THEY MET THAT GUIDELINE.

THEY MEET THE CRITERIA OF A TAX EXEMPT.

BUT I'M A PERSON. YOU DON'T SPIT IN MY FACE WITH A LAWSUIT AND THEN EXPECT ME TO SMILE BACK AT YOU.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY BILL BRATTON WORKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS COUNCIL.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I NEED A MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF REAL QUICK.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TOTAL 20, $35.

AND WE LOOK AT THE SETTLEMENT.

HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER SETTLEMENT AS OPPOSED TO WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR.

WELL, NONE OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE REQUESTED UNDER THE CO SPONSORSHIP WERE PART OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

THESE ARE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT THE CITY IS NOT REQUIRED TO FUND UNDER THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT ARE COST THAT THE ORGANIZATION HAS HAD TO PAY FOR IN THE PAST EVENT.

SO THEY'VE HAD TO PAY THE RENT, THE STAGE OR FOR THE GENERATOR, USE THOSE TYPES OF FEES.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING WAIVER OF.

AND THEN AS AS I SAID, THE OTHER CHANGE IS THE ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE PER THE AGREEMENT FOR THE CLEANING AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SITE, OUR STAFF DECIDED JUST TO HAVE TWO RECOMMENDED TO HAVE TWO OF OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS ON SITE TO MAKE SURE EXTRA LEVEL OF CARE FOR TAKING CARE OF THE RESTROOMS AND HELPING KEEP IT CLEAN. SO THAT WAS OUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS WHY IT'S INCLUDED IN THE VALUE OF THE CO SPONSORSHIP.

I DO NOT HAVE THE VALUE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT COSTS FOR THE CITY.

IT'S JUST BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN PART OF OUR OUR COST OF DOING BUSINESS EACH YEAR SINCE THE AGREEMENT WAS REACHED BACK IN 2008 OR NINE, I THINK IT WAS 2008.

BECAUSE. BECAUSE WHAT? I'M THE ONLY THING I'M REALLY LOOKING AT REVISING IS MOSTLY, I GUESS, THE MAINTENANCE STAFF.

I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN REVISE THE POLICE BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE SETTLEMENT.

CORRECT. YEAH. BUT THE MAINTENANCE STAFF IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT $560.

I'M THINKING VOLUNTEERS CAN TAKE ON THAT PORTION.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TALKING COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT ALREADY.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT I'M NOT TRYING TO PINCH PENNIES OR ANYTHING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE.

OKAY. YEAH. ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF DICE? TURNING THIS. I'M JUST I THINK MR. BATTEN BRINGS UP A VALID POINT.

SO AS MR. JOHNSON, THAT'S THAT'S REALLY MY ONLY DISCUSSION HERE.

I'M GOOD EITHER WAY IF MAYOR WHATEVER COUNCIL DECIDES.

COUNCILMAN FELIX I THINK WAS GESTURING AND THEN I'LL GO TO YOU COUNSELING FOR.

MAYOR. WHAT I WOULD ADD IS ALL.

ASK IS THAT ASIDE FROM THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT? THIS ORGANIZATION COULD HAVE COULD OF JUST SUBMIT AN APPLICATION BASED ON THE CURRENT POLICY WE HAVE UNDER THE CO-SPONSORSHIP AND BE ABLE TO PRETTY MUCH GET UP TO 10,000.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO SO WITH THAT SAID, NOW WE WE WE KIND OF.

ON. ON. 560.

AND WHEN THEY ACTUALLY MAKE A COMMITMENT TO HONOR AND TO TO CLEAN AND TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

I'M OKAY AS PRESENTED.

I'M OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK WE JUST.

CAN'T GO ON $560.

COPY THAT. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE KIND OF LIKE HAVE MADE AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

RIGHT. AND SO IF WE WE ALREADY STARTED FOLLOWING A PROCEDURE THAT THAT THIS COUNCIL PUT IN PLACE.

RIGHT. THESE CODE SPONSORSHIPS, THEY FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES.

I THINK THIS APPLICATION COULD HAVE BEEN SENT ON THE POLICY WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND I'LL BE HONORED.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT OUT TO ME.

COUNCILMAN FELIX. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE HAVE A FEDERAL.

THROUGH A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN THE FEDERAL COURT.

IN THE ORLANDO DISTRICT.

THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TOOK THE DIAS AND BEEN IN AND THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING ON THE PARADE.

I PARTICIPATED IN THE PARADE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

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AND THEY MEET THE GUIDELINES OF CO-SPONSORSHIP AND THEY BRING A MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

THAT IS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER EVERY TIME THEY DO IT.

SO THEY FOLLOWING OUR GUIDELINES, WE HAVE A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

BUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

FRIDAY BEFORE I ARRIVED HERE.

AND WE NEED TO HONOR THAT SETTLEMENT AND WE NEED TO AND THEN GO BACK AND FOLLOW OUR POLICY.

SO WE NEED TO ADHERE TO THAT AND APPROVE THIS CO-SPONSORSHIP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, SIR.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE APPROVED DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND AND THIS IS MORE OF THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL THAT WE'VE APPROVED IN THE PAST. REMOVING THE AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LAWSUIT, BUT WHAT WE WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THAT LAWSUIT IS WE'VE IMPLEMENTED OUR PROCESS.

RIGHT. AND THEY THEY'VE COME AND THEY FULFILL THAT CO-SPONSORSHIP PROCESS.

AND SO I'M GOOD WITH SUPPORTING THIS AS IT MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY'S CO-SPONSORSHIP WITH UTB.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? KOFI ANNAN ALL IN FAVOR, AND HE OPPOSED US AS UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE GOING THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING WITH US.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER TEN UNDER.

OH. WHAT WAS JUST HANDED TO US IS A COMIC BOOK FROM.

AND IS THIS ABOUT WHAT, MAN? OH, THE PROCLAMATION.

YES. WE GAVE OUT A PROCLAMATION REGARDING HEMOPHILIA.

AND THIS IS.

WOW, THIS IS. AND CVS HAS THIS.

WOW. I WISH HE WOULD GET ON THE MIC BECAUSE WE.

IT'S HIS FIRST PRINTED WORK.

HE IS A PRODUCT OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS THROUGH AND THROUGH.

HE'S AN EASTERN FLORIDA STATE GRADUATE AND NOW CONTINUING ON TO HIS BACHELORS.

HE'S DONATED AND RANDY AND DONNIE KNOW HE'S DONATED OVER THREE, 400 HOURS OF HIS TIME WITH THE FOUNDER, MR. LOPEZ. AND HE DOES.

HE'S A NATIONAL AMBASSADOR FOR THE BLEEDING DISORDER COALITION.

AND WHAT IS YOUR SON'S NAME? TYLER. TYLER, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU PUBLICLY SAY IT? HIS NAME IS TYLER NAZARIO.

TYLER NAZARIO.

THIS IS A COMIC BOOK REGARDING HEMOPHILIA.

YEP. AND THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE THE COMIC BOOKS I USED TO READ WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN.

THIS IS AWESOME.

WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNSEL.

THANK YOU. I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH COPIES, BUT HE WILL BE SIGNING THEM AT THE PARADE BECAUSE CVS SPECIALTY PHARMACY WILL BE JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.

OUTSTANDING JOB.

READY TO GO. AND AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THIS IS IT'S HIGHLIGHTING A BLEEDING DISORDER.

AND AND HE IS A SURVIVOR OF THAT BLEEDING DISORDER.

SO CONGRATULATIONS, YOUNG MAN.

REALLY PROUD OF YOUR LEADERSHIP.

OUTSTANDING, TYLER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LADIES.

THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TEN ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ORDINANCE

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

2022 DASH 100, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM TO PROHIBIT THE FILING, ACCEPTANCE OR PROCESSING OF ANY APPLICATIONS TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR REZONE PROPERTY.

THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE CITY PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR GIVING CONSENSUS TO DRAFT THIS ORDINANCE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND STAFF.

I'M IF MS..

SHERMAN DOESN'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. JESSE ANDERSON. DOCTOR.

DR. J. DR. J.

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YES, SIR. YES.

DR. JESSE ANDERSON IS OUR ASSISTANT GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, AND HE WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. WELCOME, DR.

JESSE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS ITEM TONIGHT.

BEFORE I GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED WITH THIS TEMPORARY MORATORIUM, I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE TWO POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORTH TONIGHT TO THE MORATORIUM.

THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE TIMELINE, THE TIMELINE OF APPLICABILITY.

SO FOR THE FIRST ONE, WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE SLIGHTLY ADJUST THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2022 TO SEPTEMBER SIX, 2022. THE RATIONALE FOR THIS IS BECAUSE THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY, YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, DID NOT MAKE ITS FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO YOU CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THEIR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 6TH.

THEREFORE, ANY APPLICATIONS THAT WE DID RECEIVE PRIOR TO THAT MEETING WERE UNDER THE GUISE OF NOT HAVING A MORATORIUM APPLIED TO THEM BECAUSE IT WAS NOT UNDER CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME PERIOD BY YOUR LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY.

OUR SECOND ONE IS TO EXTEND THAT SAME TYPE OF TIMELINE TO PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS WHERE STAFF HAD EXPLICITLY CONVEYED TO APPLICANTS THAT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH AN ENTITLEMENT PROCESS THAT RESULTED IN A RESIDENTIAL FAMILY USE, EITHER LAND USE OR A ZONING DISTRICT.

WITH THAT, WE ARE LOOKING TO EXTEND THAT OPTION TO PRE APPLICATION APPLICANTS THAT RECEIVE DIRECTION FROM STAFF EXPLICITLY TO GO TO ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL CATEGORIES IN TERMS OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE OR OUR ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AS WE HAD GIVEN THEM DIRECTION, WHICH INITIATED SOME OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, IDEOLOGY AND FRAMEWORKS AND TIMELINES BESIDES THOSE TWO INITIAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY MAKE FOR THIS EVENING'S MORATORIUM.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOW GO INTO THE BACKGROUND, IF THAT'S OKAY, FOR WHY WE ARE PROPOSING IT.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE ARE TRYING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH SECTION ONE 63.3191 OF FLORIDA STATUTES, WHERE IT REQUIRES OUR LOCAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BE UPDATED EVERY SEVEN YEARS.

THIS IS JUST TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE STATUTE, AS WELL AS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE EVER CHANGING ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR.

SO THERE IS A SECONDARY NATURE TO THAT THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DISTINGUISH, WHICH I'LL ELABORATE ON IN A MOMENT.

SECONDLY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN HOLISTICALLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY UPDATED SINCE THE YEAR OF 2000.

AGAIN, I HIGHLIGHT THAT I'M GOING TO MENTION IN TERMS OF OUR EX SORRY, ESCALATING GROWTH.

NEXT, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO UPDATE OUTLANDISH REGULATIONS.

HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT TO ALLOW US TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO REACT TO A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HOW WE WILL MAKE SURE OUR IMPLEMENTATION IS IN ACCORDANCE AND FURTHERING THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SOME SOME OF THE RATIONALE FOR THESE CHANGES AND THE REASONING FOR THIS MORATORIUM TO BE EXPLICIT TO RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES AS WELL AS ZONING DISTRICTS IS BECAUSE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY WE HAVE OVER 97% RESIDENTIAL USES IN TERMS OF THEIR FUTURE LAND USE OR THEIR ZONING DISTRICTS.

CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 1.7% COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES, LEAVING THE REMAINDER BEING AGRICULTURAL, PUBLIC UTILITY USES AND SO FORTH.

SO WITH THAT, WE DO NOT WANT TO EXCLUDE ANY COMMERCIAL RELATED PROJECTS FROM MOVING FORWARD, AS WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THE NATURE OF THE COMMUNITY OUT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE MORE CAPTURE INTERNALLY AND LESS EXTERNAL COMMITMENT TO VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED INITIATIVES THAT WERE DRIVEN BY OUR LACK OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY.

MOVING BEYOND THAT, WE ARE CURRENTLY, AS I JUST ALLUDED TO, LOOKING AT OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND THAT'S THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT ARE ONGOING THAT OUR CITY ENGINEER CAN ALWAYS ALLUDE TO A BIT MORE.

BUT THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTHEAST QUADRANTS OF THE CITY, WHICH WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON IF ASKED BY COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT, WE WERE LOOKING TO LOOK AT HOW WE RECLASSIFY THE ROAD SYSTEM.

SO AGAIN, WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOT BEING UPDATED FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.

OUR MOST RECENT FUTURE LAND USE MAPS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 2018.

THIS IS NOT DEPICTING WHAT OUR RECLASSIFICATIONS WILL SHOW FOR WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, FOR FOR CURRENT ROADWAYS AND FUTURE ROADWAY NETWORKS IN THEIR CAPACITIES AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DIVERT TRAVEL AND DESTINATION TIMELINES.

WITH THAT, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SIGNIFICANT GROWTH THAT.

THE CITY HAS STARTED TO EXPERIENCE, OBVIOUSLY, SINCE THE HEIGHT OF COVID, BUT BEYOND THAT, IT'S BEEN HAPPENING SINCE 2000.

SO BACK IN 2000, THE ESTIMATE FOR THE POPULATION AT THAT TIME PERIOD WAS 81,000 PEOPLE.

AT THIS TIME PERIOD, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN ESTIMATED POPULATION.

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CLEARLY, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANNING WISE, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF OUR SERVICE PROVISIONS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING ADEQUATE SERVICE PROVISIONS, TIMELY AND INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED.

BEYOND THAT, PALM BAY'S PERMANENT POPULATION IS ALREADY GROWING BEYOND 127,000 MARKER IN THIS COMING MONTH, WITH SOME ESTIMATES LOOKING AT US HAVING A TOTAL POPULATION BEYOND 4988 FROM OUR CURRENT PROJECTIONS LAST TIME THIS OR THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

WITH THOSE INCREASES, WE ARE LOOKING AT BIEBER'S PROJECTION PERIOD ALREADY BEING AT MEDIAN PROJECTIONS FOR THE YEAR OF 2025.

WE'RE BEYOND THAT.

SO THE MEDIUM PROJECTIONS FOR THE YEAR 2025, WE HAVE ALREADY OVERTAKEN THAT BY 2000 PERSONS FOR OUR OVERALL CITIES CAPACITY.

THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE ESTIMATES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE EXPLOSIVE POPULATION GROWTH.

AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO CEMENT THAT THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM IS, FIRST OFF, TEMPORARY IN NATURE.

WE HAVE LOOKED INTO WAYS TO BE AMENABLE FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE UNDERGONE ENTITLEMENT PROCESSES, WHICH WE HAVE ALLUDED TO TONIGHT WITH OUR AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED.

AND GOING BEYOND THAT, WE ARE DOING THIS IN ADHERENCE WITH THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION'S IDEOLOGY THAT THE SMART GROWTH TACTICS, BOTH IN THE LEGISLATIVE GUIDEBOOK AND IN THE SMART USERS MANUAL, ARE INITIATING THIS TYPE OF MORATORIUM AS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD IMPLEMENT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN A HOLISTIC LENS AND TRYING TO UPDATE IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A 40,000, ABOUT 47,000 PERSON DIFFERENCE FROM WHEN IT WAS PROJECTED FOR OUR ROADWAY NETWORKS AND SO FORTH.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

WE ALSO DO HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HERE THAT ARE REPRESENTING ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE.

WE WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER THEM ENTHUSIASTICALLY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT THE VERY FIRST ONE IS I AGREE THAT RECLASSIFICATION OF ROADS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE AND I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT THAT RECLASSIFICATION OF ROLES WE CAN ACTUALLY DO WITHOUT FINISHING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IS THAT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT? IT IS TO AN EXTENT, YES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY WE CAN DO THAT.

HOWEVER, TO DO THAT INITIATES A PROCESS OF AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THROUGH A TEXTUAL OR MAP BASED PROCESS.

AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT TO A SPECIFIC PARCEL AT THAT POINT, IT TRIGGERS A LARGE SCALE TYPE REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH ALSO NECESSITATES A 60 DAY, 45 DAY REVIEW PROCESS WITH A TEN DAY, 15 DAY GRACE PERIOD BY THE STATE.

WHEN YOU CALCULATE THOSE TIMELINES INTO EFFECT, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST ABOUT THE SAME TIME PERIOD AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS ONE LARGE REASON AS TO WHY WE WERE LOOKING INTO THIS BEING SOMETHING THAT WE ALIGNED TOGETHER.

SECONDLY, AS I HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE THOSE LARGE SCALE TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES GOING ON, STUDYING THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST QUADRANTS, WHICH WE HAVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, OVER 8000 DWELLING UNITS COMING INTO THOSE AREAS.

SO WITH THAT, IT'S IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR US TO GET A CAPTURED IDENTITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON SO THAT WE CAN RECLASSIFY THESE ROADS CORRECTLY IF WE DO IT ONE BY ONE.

WE'RE NOT SEEMINGLY DOING A HOLISTIC VIEW OF PLANNING.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MISSTEPS AND MORE LIKELY HAVE CONFLICTS THAT WE CANNOT AVOID WITHOUT LARGE SCALE INITIATIVES LATER ON.

I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING PART OF THIS TEAM.

DR. J. OR THANK YOU, SIR.

DR. J. I TRULY DO.

YOU'RE A GIFTED MAN, AND WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH US NOW? CURRENTLY JUST OVER THE SIX MONTH MARK.

SEPTEMBER 14TH WAS MY SIX MONTH DAY, SO I KNOW THAT OVER SIX MONTHS AGO, PERHAPS OVER A YEAR, I WAS ASKING TO LOOK AT GETTING THESE ROADS RECLASSIFIED, WORKING ON THAT, SO THAT WE WOULD AVERT THIS THIS THIS POSSIBILITY.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AS TO WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

THEN MY MY NEXT QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS COUNCIL.

I HAD SEEN THIS BEFORE.

AND WE WE VOTED.

WE VOTED THIS DOWN 3 TO 2.

IT'S HOW I WORKED OUT.

SO I WANTED TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WERE MADE FROM WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW, BECAUSE I COULDN'T. YOU KNOW, IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE I'M NOT I'M NOT IN YOUR PROFESSION.

NO, ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

SO THERE ARE COMPOUNDED INFLUENCES THAT ARE GOING TO OCCUR TONIGHT, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU VOTE ON VARIOUS CASES.

FOR INSTANCE, YOU HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CHANGE TO THE OVERALL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

WITH THAT, THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS EXCLUDED FROM THE MORATORIUM.

SO ANY UNIQUE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE NOT FULLY BEEN CAPTURED BEFOREHAND ARE NOW EXCLUDED BY THE MEANS OF IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THAT TYPE OF ORDINANCE AS IT

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SO WE WERE TRYING TO ALIGN THIS TYPE OF PROGRESSION WITH YOU SO WE CAN TRY TO ENHANCE THE CITY'S INTUITIVE AND MORE UNIQUE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SELF SERVING, THAT WILL NOT CONTINUE THE URBAN SPRAWL NATURE BY PROVIDING SOME LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL TO ENCAPSULATE THAT GROWTH AND START TO LOWER THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELS, CONGESTION, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE HURTING THE ROAD NETWORK CURRENTLY WITHOUT THOSE RECLASSIFICATIONS AND A FUTURE OF HOW WE WANT TO DIRECT TRAFFIC. STILL, I STILL DON'T SEE IT.

SO CARRY ON. SURE.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, THE MAIN MESSAGE THAT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WITH THESE IS THAT WE HAVE ADVERTISED IT.

WE HAVE GIVEN DUE DILIGENCE PERIODS FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD A MORATORIUM.

THIS IS ALLOWED FOR DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA TO AT LEAST HAVE A RETROACTIVE PLAN ON HOW THEY MIGHT WANT TO APPROACH DEVELOPMENT INSIDE THE AREA, WHETHER THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH ONE OF THE MORE INTUITIVE AND UNIQUE DISTRICTS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS MORE FEASIBLE FOR THE CITY TO WAIT ON.

WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR HOW WE COULD HAVE APPROACHED CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE DID MAKE SURE TO BEHOOVE THE TIMELINE TO SOME OF OUR MORE TENUOUS APPLICANTS THAT HAVE BEEN DOWN THE LINE INSIDE OF THE MILL.

SO WE ARE NOT INFLUENCING THEM IN A NEGATIVE FASHION.

WE'VE TRIED TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER THE PROCESS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE PROCESS WITHOUT AVOIDING ANY.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

SAME QUESTION THAT YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, BUT I WON'T IF ONE MINE CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

YES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS AS FAR AS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS WHEN THIS WAS CONSIDERED BEFORE BY COUNCIL, IT ESSENTIALLY WAS A CONCEPTUAL IDEA BROUGHT FORTH BY STAFF COUNCIL.

DIDN'T CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE.

AN ORDINANCE HADN'T BEEN DRAFTED.

ACTUALLY, DURING THE DISCUSSIONS, ONE OF THE SOME OF THE TIME THINGS CAME UP, THERE WAS QUESTIONS AND THERE WERE VARIOUS POLICY DECISIONS THAT MAY BE MADE.

AND I BELIEVE AT ONE POINT IN TIME IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME AND I WAS ESSENTIALLY TOLD YOU, THESE ARE POLICY DECISIONS.

TELL ME WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO GO AND I'LL DRAFT THE ORDINANCE AND.

YES. TAKING THAT CUE.

DEPUTY MAYOR ACTUALLY CONTACTED ME AND SAID, HEY, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I WANT IN PURSUANT TO COUNCIL POLICIES WHICH ALLOWS ANY COUNCIL MEMBER TO BRING FORTH AN ORDINANCE SO LONG AS THEY ANNOUNCE IT, THEY CAN THEN WORK WITH STAFF.

HE WORKED WITH ME. I WORKED WITH GROWTH TO ESSENTIALLY MEMORIALIZE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE WANTED.

BUT YOU ALL NEVER HAD AN ORDINANCE AND THERE WAS NEVER THE CONCEPT OF A MORATORIUM WAS BROUGHT FORTH, BUT THERE WAS REALLY VERY LITTLE SPECIFICS AT THAT TIME.

THERE WAS NOTHING DRAFTED.

HMM. IF I MAY JUST ADD ON ONE MINOR THING TO THAT IS WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE OF THE MORATORIUM, HOW THE INFLUENCE IS ON TERM IN TERMS OF OUR PLANNING ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH OUR PLAN.

SO WITH THINGS LIKE SITING SMART GROWTH INITIATIVES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALLOWING FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE BEFORE MAKING THIS DETERMINATION AS IT IS A HIGHLY INFLUENTIAL ONE.

AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

YES. ONE MORE QUESTION IS FOR DR.

ANDERSON. HOW MANY HOW MUCH STAFF, HOW MANY MEMBERS OF STAFF HAVE YOU HIRED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED A MORATORIUM OR LET'S JUST EVEN SAY SINCE MARCH? SO TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

I'LL ANSWER BOTH OF THEM FOR YOU. SINCE MARCH, WE HAVE HIRED THREE NEW PLANNERS AND WE HAVE ONE MORE SPECIALIST PLANNING SPECIALIST.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE ALSO LOST ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS IN THE LARGEST ASPECT OF OUR DEPARTMENT.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT.

OVERALL, WE'RE LOOKING AT WE'VE ADDED THREE TOTAL PEOPLE, ONE OF THEM BEING, OF COURSE, A LOT TOWARDS THE PLANNING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO HIGHLIGHT AND A SPECIALIZED ROLE.

AND THEN THE SECOND PORTION TO THAT, SINCE OUR LAST TIME BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO YOU, WE MAY.

WE DID ADD ONE PERSON AS WE HAD LOST ONE PERSON, BUT WE HAD THE OTHER THREE PLANNERS THE LAST TIME WE HAD BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YEAH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE FOR THE CITY.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND WORKING FOR PALM BAY.

I VOTED NO AGAINST THIS LAST TIME, BUT NOW IT'S CLEAR TO ME.

WHY I SHOULD VOTE YES.

THANK YOU. IT'S VERY CLEAR THE WORK AND DEPUTY MAYOR, THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON IT AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE ON IT.

WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

VERSUS A CONCEPT WHICH MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

BUT WHAT'S CLEAR TO ME AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

TRAFFIC. WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM AND THIS KIND OF ADDRESS WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH OUR TRAFFIC.

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AM I CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.

I TRY TO MAKE IT PLAIN.

YEAH. AND I WILL TRY TO BE SHORT AND SWEET.

AND I GO A LITTLE LONG SOMETIMES.

BUT SIMPLY PUT, OUR TRAFFIC.

YES, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS.

I'VE WATCHED OUR TRAFFIC JUST FROM AS EVERYONE ELSE'S PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S ROUGH. SECONDLY, THOUGH, YOU'VE HEARD FROM VARIOUS MEMBERS OF OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT TELL YOU THEY ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING PLACES ON TIME AGAIN. THAT IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC INITIATED ISSUES, NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS DISTANCE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE IN THEIR WAY TRYING TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

AND THEN FINALLY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO RECLASSIFY THE ROADS, WE MAY BE ABLE TO AND WE INTEND TO PLAN OUT MORE TYPES OF EMERGENCY PATHWAYS AND BETTER PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WHICH, AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE STRATEGIES.

SO WE NEED TO ENTER DEPARTMENT INTER-DEPARTMENTAL COORDINATE.

AND TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TIME AND EFFECTIVENESS TO COMMUNICATE.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WHAT YOU SEE IS US DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.

BUT OFTEN WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND BECAUSE WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS 20 YEARS OLD.

AND THAT IS MY RESPONSE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT BECAUSE.

TO MOST PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC AND WATCHING ONLINE.

ONE TIME I LIVED IN NEW YORK CITY AND TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE.

AND I KNOW WHAT NYPD GO THROUGH.

AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WENT THROUGH TO GET TO A LOCATION.

IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC IN THE NEW YORK CITY AND IT'S STILL HORRIBLE THERE.

BUT BESIDES THAT, BEFORE I MOVED TO PALM BAY, I LIVED IN WASHINGTON, D.C., THE WORST TRAFFIC SITUATION.

ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PRESIDENT OR THE VICE PRESIDENT IS MOVING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, EVERYTHING STOPS.

OK IMAGINE EMERGENCY DURING THAT TIME.

SO. YOU KNOW, I LIVED 23 MILES FROM WASHINGTON.

I LIVED IN VIRGINIA. IT TOOK ME ONE DAY, 4 HOURS TO GET HOME TO 23 MILES.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT PROBLEM.

TRAFFIC IS SAFETY.

TRAFFIC SAVED LIVES.

TRAFFIC IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

GOING TO WORK OR BEING OFF WORK? I DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN PALM BAY TO BE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.

I WANT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TO GET THERE QUICKER AND SAFELY AND DON'T GET IN ANY ACCIDENT ON THE WAY.

SO IF A STUDY IS NEEDED.

TO FIGURE OUT. WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION TO OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEM? I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT AND I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO RUSH IT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ARE PROPOSING A SIX MONTHS.

THAT IS CORRECT, YES. I WOULD GO EVEN LONGER.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR JUST ONE THING, BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME BY MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN REGARDS TO AN EXTENSION OF THE MORATORIUM PAST SIX MONTHS.

SO ONE THING SPEAKING OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE YES, I'M PUSHING THIS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE FAIR IN DOING THIS.

AND THE LANGUAGE THAT I HAD WORKED ON TO HAVE IN PLACE WAS A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED BECAUSE COUNCIL BY LAW CAN CONTINUE IT SHORTENED OR WHATEVER.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT COMING OFF AS JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE A STICKLER OR ANYTHING.

I'M REALLY TRYING TO PROMOTE SMART GROWTH.

AND IN DOING SO, I WANT TO BE COHESIVE WITH THIS COUNCIL AND PUTTING LANGUAGE LIKE THAT.

SO AND I'LL SAY IT ON THE RECORD AFTER THIS SIX MONTHS, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT TO BE EXTENDED.

I'LL SAY IT RIGHT NOW LIKE WE ARE.

WE'RE PROJECTING FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BE FINALIZED AT THE LATEST IN THE FEBRUARY.

CORRECT. FEBRUARY FOUR TIME PERIOD IS OUR TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD HAVE TO DO ONE MORE CHECK IN WITH OUR CONSULTANTS JUST TO VERIFY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POTENTIAL TO GO EXTENDING BEYOND THAT.

BUT I DO NOT THINK AT THAT TIME PERIOD WE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN A CAUSE FOR CONCERN SO MUCH BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST OPENING UP THE PORTAL FOR APPLICATIONS.

THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS BEFORE THEY GET TO YOU.

THANK YOU. SO THAT WILL BE WHAT THAT BEING SAID, I PUT THE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE AND WE PUT THE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE IN THERE, BUT STILL WITHIN TEN, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT EXTENDING IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO COUNCIL.

SO LET'S SEE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I JUST THE REASON WHY I SAID I'D BE OPEN TO GO BEYOND THE SIX MONTHS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET DONE ON THE DATE WE

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AND I DON'T WANT THIS EXPIRE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT COMPLETED.

SO. WHAT I MEANT BY BEYOND THE SIX MONTHS, NINE MONTHS.

SO SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN.

I WANT TO DO IT ONE TIME AND BE DONE WITH IT.

BUT I WANT TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND NOT HAVE TO GO BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I BELIEVE DOING ONE ONE THING ONE TIME AND DO IT RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY. JUST TO QUICKLY SPEAK ON THAT, I THINK WHAT THIS TRIGGERS IS THE SUPERMAJORITY STILL ALLOWS FOR THAT.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE OR WHAT I THINK I BELIEVE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WE IF A MORATORIUM WAS IN PLACE, WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK MUCH MORE DILIGENTLY IN CLOSELY WITH OUR CONSULTING TEAM TO ACCOMPLISH THIS IN A MORE BRIEF TIME PERIOD AND GET DRAFTS READY TO COMMUNICATE WITH ALL OF YOU THROUGH OUR OUR WORKSHOPS AND SO FORTH, AND A MUCH MORE STRINGENT AND TIMELINE FASHION WHERE IF WE ARE POTENTIALLY BURDENED WITH THE TYPICAL CASELOAD, WE MAY END UP HAVING TO DELAY THE ADOPTION OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? WE CAN HAVE A DISASTER TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

A NATURAL DISASTER.

NOW WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AND THE TIME IS.

HE IS RUNNING AND MIGHT STOP WORK.

MY STOP WORK AND WE WON'T FINISH THE COMP PLAN ON THE TIME WE SET.

SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DEPUTY MAYOR FOR AN EXTRA 2 TO 3 MONTHS.

JUST TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

LIKE, ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

IF YOU'RE DONE BEFORE NINE MONTHS, THEN THAT'S GREAT.

THEN LET'S MOVE ON.

BUT. I'D RATHER HAVE THAT BUFFER AND NOT BE BACK HERE AGAIN ASKING FOR A SUPERMAJORITY, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE WOULD GET.

I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT NOT GET A MAJORITY RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

WHAT I SAID EARLIER ABOUT TRAFFIC.

GOT TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

PUBLIC SAFETY ALWAYS BEEN MY NUMBER ONE SINCE I RAN FOR ANY OFFICE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

I ALWAYS LIST PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER ONE.

AND THIS IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THIS IS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND. I'M TELLING YOU, YOU WANT TO GET THE TRAFFIC DONE RIGHT? IF NOT, WE'D BE LIKE ORLANDO OR SOUTH FLORIDA OR THEY'RE BACKED UP AND NO ONE COULD GET OUT IN THE TIME OF EMERGENCY.

Q ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

WE'VE GOT SPEAKER CARS, BUT NONE ARE REALLY NEEDED.

GO AHEAD AND CALL THOSE SPEAKER CARDS AND START WITH THIS.

YES. ALVARO DE LA FUENTE.

MY NAME IS ALVARO DE LA FUENTE.

I LIVE IN 2031 BROOK DRIVE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL STAFF.

ACCORDING TO A STUDY DONE BY THE NIH, THE OPTIMAL TIME TO MAXIMIZE SURVIVABILITY AFTER CARDIAC ARREST IS WITHIN 6.2 MINUTES OF RESPONSE TIME BY MS. AFTER THIS AMOUNT OF TIME, THE PERCENTAGE OF SURVIVABLE SURVIVABILITY BEGINS TO DECREASE ON AN EXPONENTIAL LEVEL.

ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY FIRE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION DONE HERE IN JUNE.

FIRE RESCUE. CURRENT RESPONSE TIME IS ALMOST 4 MINUTES ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

SO THINK ABOUT THE 4 MINUTES.

SO YOU MAY GIVE THIS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT SINCE THE NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION IS THE FIRST FROM THE CITY.

SO HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA? HOW DOES PALM BAY RANK? SO WE RANKED AT THE BOTTOM 98 PERCENTILE AMONGST ALL MUNICIPALITIES.

I BELIEVE IT'S 243 OUT OF 246.

IT CAN TAKE UP TO 8 MINUTES FOR FIRE RESCUE TO GET TO A RESIDENCE HOUSE WITHIN OUR CITY.

AND THEN WE ADD EVEN MORE TIME TO TRANSPORT TO THAT RESIDENT TO A SPECIFIC HOSPITAL IN THE AREA.

SO GOING BACK TO THE STATISTIC I READ IN THE BEGINNING, HAVING EMS WITHIN 6.2 MINUTES OF CARDIAC ARREST.

COMPARE THAT TO 8 MINUTES.

THESE NUMBERS IN AND OF ITSELF SHOULD BE A HUGE RED FLAG.

WHEN I WAS A CORPSMAN SERVING IN RAMADI WITH A MARINE CORPS INFANTRY, WE HAD FASTER RESPONSE TIMES WHILE DODGING IEDS AND ENEMY FIRE.

JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT SADLY, IT GETS WORSE.

NOW, LET'S LOOK AT THE POLICE RESPONSE TIME.

ACCORDING TO A FLORIDA TODAY ARTICLE POSTED IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, YOUR CITY MANAGER SAID SATURDAY THAT THERE WAS AN AVERAGE INCREASE OF 2 MINUTES IN POLICE RESPONSE TIME BETWEEN 2020 AND TODAY.

SO THERE WAS 34% INCREASE IN JUST TWO YEARS.

SO CURRENTLY, THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR PALM BAY POLICE ON ANY GIVEN POINT IN THE CITY IS BETWEEN SIX AND 8 MINUTES.

WOULD ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WANT TO WAIT 8 MINUTES FOR POLICE TO RESPOND TO A BURGLARY IN THEIR HOME? WE DESPERATELY NEED EMS AND POLICE RESPONSE.

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ALL TRENDS CURRENTLY HAVE THEM GOING UP, JUST LIKE WE SAW WITH THE WATER TODAY.

WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IS A CLEAR SYSTEMIC PROBLEM WITHIN OUR CITY WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONSE TIMES.

THIS IS SOLELY OUR REQUEST TO PUT A PAUSE ON LARGE REZONING REQUESTS.

WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING TO PAUSE, TO ALLOW TO THE CITY TO SHIFT PRIORITIES AND ADJUST AND IMPROVE.

THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO PRIORITIZE BUDGETING, BUDGETING FOR FUNDING AND ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS, INCENTIVES FOR POLICE HIRING AND WIDENING OF OUR ROADS.

THESE DEVELOPERS WILL NOT LEAVE.

HOWEVER, IF WE CONTINUE ON THIS SELF-DESTRUCTIVE PATH, THE RESIDENTS WILL BE THE ONES TO LEAVE.

LET US NOT PUT DEVELOPERS OVER CURRENT RESIDENTS.

LET US NOT PLACE INCREASE FUTURE TAX COLLECTIONS OVER THE LIVES.

AND I DON'T MEAN THAT LOOSELY.

I MEAN THE ACTUAL LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS TODAY.

LET US NOT PUT GREED OVER COMMON SENSE.

LET THIS BE THE DAY WHERE WE, THE RESIDENTS, START PUTTING A QUESTION MARK AFTER THE STATEMENT THAT PALM BAY IS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH AND LET THIS CITY COUNCIL MAKE THAT A FACT.

THANK YOU, PAT ALPER.

EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS PAT DAPPER.

I LIVE AT 14 GEORGE'S AVENUE.

AND I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE WATER, WHICH I THINK IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.

I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1978 AND WHEN I MOVED HERE THE WATER IN MELBOURNE, PALM BAY AREA WAS LISTED ON THE TEN TOP WORST WATER IN THE UNITED STATES.

THANKFULLY, WE'RE NOT ON THAT LIST ANYMORE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY OFF THAT LIST.

ALSO, MY WELL WENT DRY RIGHT BEFORE WE PUT CITY WATER IN.

SO MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY PERSONAL WELLS ARE GOING TO GO DRY BEFORE THEY GET CITY WATER? WE'VE ALSO STILL HAVE A WATER ISSUE IN NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT WE STILL HAVE WATER THAT SMELLS.

EVEN THOUGH THE ENGINEERS PUBLIC WORKS SAYS IT'S SAFE.

AND I APPRECIATE THE POWERPOINT THAT HE HAD TODAY BECAUSE IT GIVES ME A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THE CITY PLANS TO DO.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF OUR WATER.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS. SO IF WE DO WANT TO BE THE MOST OR THE GREATEST CITY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD WATER BECAUSE WATER IS LIFE. IF WE DON'T HAVE WATER, THE CITY CAN'T GROW.

IF WE DON'T HAVE WATER, THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LEAVE.

SO I FEEL THAT THE WATER IS A VERY KEY ISSUE ALONG WITH ROADS AND SAFETY.

THANK YOU. DANIEL CORCORAN.

GOOD EVENING, DANIEL CORCORAN.

2124 WINWOOD DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM.

THREE WEEKS AGO I PARTICIPATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORKSHOP HELD RIGHT IN THIS ROOM.

THERE WAS A LOT OF ENERGY IN THE ROOM AS CITIZENS FROM ACROSS PALM BAY GATHERED TO GIVE THEIR INPUT TO FOUR EXERCISES DESIGNED BY THE SME AND CONSULTING GROUP.

I WAS PARTICULARLY ATTRACTED TO THE FOURTH EXERCISE, WHICH WAS CALLED THE IDEAL WALL, WHICH WAS A FREE FORM FLIP CHART EXERCISE TO GATHER INPUTS.

I SAW A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS ON THE FLIP CHARTS AND I PROVIDED A FEW MYSELF.

I HOPE THE CONSULTING TEAM PAYS CLOSE ATTENTION TO THOSE INPUTS AND TAKES THEM INTO CONSIDERATION AS THE NEW PLAN TAKES SHAPE.

AT YOUR LAST CITY COUNCIL SESSION, YOU REVIEWED AND APPROVED AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SECTION 185 ZONING CODE, AFFECTING SOME OF THE KEY PARAMETERS AND PROCEDURES FOR GETTING PLANNED, UNIT DEVELOPMENTS PROPOSED AND APPROVED.

TO ME, A MAJOR POINT INCLUDED IN THAT UPDATE REQUIRES PODS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO IN MY VIEW, YOU'VE DONE A FINE JOB IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THE PROCESS ELEMENTS.

HOWEVER, I'M HOPING THAT THE EQUALLY IMPORTANT BENEFITS COMING TO YOU AND THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN EARLY 2023 CAN ALSO BE CONSIDERED.

SO I THINK THE TIME IS RIGHT TO TAKE A PAUSE SO THAT ANY OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS WILL GET THE BENEFIT OF THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALL THE IDEAS WE CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROCESS IN THE PLANNING WORKSHOP LAST MONTH.

SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THE MORATORIUM BROUGHT YOU BROUGHT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM?

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THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS BRUCE MOYA.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE HOME BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS OF THE SPACE COAST.

MAYBE I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY HERE SINCE I'M HERE SPEAKING BY MYSELF AGAINST THE MORATORIUM.

BUT WE DO REPRESENT OVER 300 MEMBERS THAT EMPLOY THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES IN PALM BAY AND THROUGHOUT BREVARD COUNTY THAT HAVE A DIRECT TIE TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT AFFECTS THIS WHOLE COUNTY, NOT JUST THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

OUR BOARD UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME HERE AND SAY THAT WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS MORATORIUM.

WE DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

THERE'S THERE'S OTHER THINGS.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I, I UNDERSTAND.

I THAT'S NOT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT IT JUST GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT WE BELIEVE IN.

AT THE HOMEBUILDERS AND CONTRACT ASSOCIATION, WE BELIEVE IN THE AMERICAN DREAM OF HOMEOWNERSHIP, AND THAT'S WHAT WE PROMOTE.

SO THIS PRETTY MUCH FLIES IN THE FACE OF THAT.

AND SO WE HAVE TO STAND AGAINST IT.

YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH THE STAFF A LOT AND WE TRY TO BRING QUALITY PROJECTS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO INVEST IN THIS CITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THINGS.

IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THEIR ATTITUDE.

ON WHAT PALM BAY IS ALL ABOUT, I THINK.

I DO APPRECIATE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THAT.

YOU CALL HIM DR. J.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN REFER TO HIM AS THAT, BECAUSE HE'S NOT I DON'T KNOW HIM AS WELL AS YOU DO.

BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS STARTED AND INVESTED IN A PROJECT, IS INVESTED MONEY INTO THE CITY WHERE THEY WANT TO BE AND THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXEMPTED, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING TO ADD.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO THIS SUIT.

IT PASSED. WE HOPE IT DOESN'T.

BUT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS I HEARD.

I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH A LOT OF I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH WHILE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS FAST GROWING.

I THINK THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE WEBSITES I FOUND OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, YOU GUYS WERE IN THE TOP 100.

YOU WERE 96 OUT OF 400 CITIES IN THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA IN GROWTH, ABOUT 16.9% OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

YOU ARE NUMBER TEN.

SIX. 9.6%.

THAT'S OVER FIVE YEARS.

SO YOU'RE GROWING ABOUT 3 TO 4% A YEAR.

THAT'S THAT'S HEALTHY GROWTH.

THAT'S NOT EXPLOSIVE GROWTH.

I'VE HEARD THAT TERM THROWN AROUND.

I THINK THAT'S HEALTHY GROWTH.

AND I THINK IT COULD BE.

I DON'T THINK THAT YOU NEED TO STOP IT.

YOU'VE GOT A GREAT STAFF NOW.

YOU HAVE ONE OF THE PROBABLY BEST STAFFED PLANNING DEPARTMENTS IN BREVARD COUNTY.

SO THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I HEARD SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT IMPACT FEES.

THE PALM BAY HAS THE HIGHEST IMPACT FEES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.

SO IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CHARGING ENOUGH FOR THE IMPACT.

AND THANK YOU. SORRY, I'M OUT OF TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I THINK MR. COLOMBO WAS FIRST.

HE RAISED HIS HAND RIGHT AFTER BRUCE AND THEN MASTER CHIEF, YOU'LL NEXT.

EVENING. THANK YOU.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE LONGER.

YOU CAN ALWAYS DROP BACK.

TAKE IT TO 12 MONTHS.

IF IT GETS COMPREHENSIVE PLANS INSTITUTED IN SIX SEVEN VOTE TO DROP IT AND MOVE ON.

RATHER THAN TRY AND PIECEMEAL IT.

SIX MONTHS. SEVEN MONTHS.

EIGHT MONTHS. I WAS AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MEETING AS WELL.

I THINK IT WAS A GREAT MEETING.

I THINK WE. CITIZENS HAD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.

AND THOSE NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

THEY NEED TO BE LISTENED TO.

AND THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND I KNOW IT WILL BE, BUT THAT NEEDS TO GET IMPLEMENTED.

I DON'T AGREE WITH MR. MOYA ON THE IMPACT FEES.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HIGH ENOUGH.

I THINK THEY NEED TO BE BUILT BASED ON THE SIZE OF DEVELOPMENT, 100 ACRES VERSUS TWO ACRES VERSUS ONE HOUSE VERSUS 1000 HOUSES.

THERE SHOULD BE A BREAKDOWN.

INDIAN RIVER HAS A COMPLETE SPREADSHEET BASED ON THE SIZE OF HOUSES TWO STORY VERSUS ONE 100 ACRE VERSUS 200 ACRE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEY'RE BROKEN DOWN THAT WAY.

OK. IF THERE IS A DEMAND TO BUILD IN PALM BAY, WHICH IS WONDERFUL, THEN THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE HELPING US OUT.

THEY WANT TO DONATE LAND FOR A FIRE STATION OR THEY WANT TO GO BUILD THAT FIRE STATION FOR US.

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BUT OTHERWISE, THEY'RE BUILDING IS CAUSING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO FAIL.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT IS SOMEONE'S GOT TO COVER THAT COST.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THAT.

SO IF THOSE HOUSES HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE HOLD THE CARDS.

BASIC ECONOMICS, HIGH DEMAND MEANS HIGHER PRICES.

WE'RE EXPERIENCING IT RIGHT NOW AT THE SUPERMARKET EVERY DAY, SO WE SHOULD BE TAKING ADVANTAGE.

LASTLY, WE HAD A MAYOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

WE WERE TALKING YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THE GREEN PROGRAM, WHICH I LOVE.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

HOWEVER, I THINK INSTEAD OF ASKING, INCENTIVIZING, WE SHOULD BE DEMANDING.

OKAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEWERS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR PEOPLE IN PALM BAY KEEPING IT THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.

WELL, THEN WE SHOULD BE DEMANDING, IF THAT'S HOW WE WANT OUR PROPERTIES TO BE BUILT AND WE WANT BIGGER RETENTION PONDS AND SO FORTH, THEN WE SHOULD BE DEMANDING THAT NOT ASKING, NOT INCENTIVIZING, WE SHOULD BE TELLING THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUILDING CODE FOUNDATIONS, WALLS, WINDOWS.

WE SHOULD BE DEMANDING IT.

THANK YOU. GO THAT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF HUMOROUS THAT THE ONLY PERSON COMPLAINING ABOUT MORATORIUM WAS A DEVELOPER.

WELL, OUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE PRESENT, THE ONLY ONE TO COMPLAIN WAS THE DEVELOPER.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'VE WATCHED THIS DEVELOPER BUILD LOTS OF GOOD THINGS IN THE CITY.

I'VE ALSO CALLED SOME OF THE THINGS THEY BUILD NOT SO GOOD AND HOW IT IMPACTED BECAUSE OF WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAD SAID WE SHOULD DO.

AND THEY REQUESTED YOU CHANGE THAT SO WE CAN DO THIS.

CASE IN POINT, ON GAYNOR ROAD, THE SAME DEVELOPER REQUESTED YOU REZONE THE PROPERTY SO THEY COULD PUT IN A DEVELOPMENT.

AND I BROUGHT OUT AT THAT TIME THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT ALLOW IS NOT WHAT THE COMP PLAN IS RECOMMENDING YOU DO.

BUT IT WAS OVER VOTED AND THE COUNCIL WENT AHEAD AND WENT WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT'S REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

AND IT WAS BROUGHT OUT ALSO THAT THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AT THAT TIME DID NOT SUPPORT THAT DEVELOPMENT, CLEAR TO THE POINT THAT THE CITY DID NOT EVEN OWN RIGHT OF WAY TO ALLOW THAT DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD TO PUT IN WATER AND SEWER.

GREAT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS RIGHT, BUT GUESS WHAT? CITY COUNCIL WAS SO QUICK TO APPROVE WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WANTED THAT THEY ACCEPTED SOMETHING THAT WAS FEASIBLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE.

CASE IN POINT ONE MORE TIME.

LOOK AT BAYSIDE LAKES.

WE ALREADY HAVE BEAUTIFUL AREAS FOR PODS THERE AND THERE HAVE BEEN SITTING VACANT WITH THE ROADS PUT IN IN BAYSIDE LAKES WHERE IT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH WITH DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW.

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE FORCING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE ITEM NUMBER TWO.

DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY BUILDING TAKES A YEAR OR MORE.

SO IF THEY SAY, WELL, THERE'S SIX MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED.

THE DEVELOPMENTS TAKE LONGER THAN THAT.

AND YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE BIG DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT TWO YEARS INTO COMPLETION OR MORE.

SO THIS SIX MONTH WAIT IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT THEM ONE LITTLE BIT.

THEIR DEVELOPMENTS ARE STILL GOING TO BE GOING.

NOW THE LAST THING.

IS WHO SAID THE COMP PLAN WAS BAD.

THE OLD COMP PLAN.

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT SAID THE COMP PLAN WAS BAD HAPPENED TO BE THE DEVELOPERS WHO WANTED TO DEVELOP THE LAND INSTEAD OF KEEPING IT AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. HELLO, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS MIKE JAFFE.

I LIVE AT 907 MENA AVENUE AND PALM BAY.

I'M A LICENSED REAL ESTATE AGENT AND A CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

CURRENTLY NOT PERFORMING ANY WORK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT I'M A RESIDENT AND FEEL LIKE I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HUGE AFFORDABILITY AFFORDABILITY ISSUE IN THE COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY IN PALM BAY.

CURRENTLY, THERE IS ONLY ABOUT 2400 HOMES, CONDOS, TOWNHOMES AVAILABLE FOR SALE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

IT'S SCARY TO ME THAT THERE IS A REZONING MORATORIUM BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE SOME OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE I DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPERS AND THEY PUT A LOT OF

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AND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE WILLING TO MAKE THAT SORT OF GAMBLE OR INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND THEY KNOW WHAT THE MARKET'S DOING.

THEY KNOW WHAT THE MARKET MARKET'S DICTATING.

AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S MULTIFAMILY.

IT'S HOUSING.

IT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL.

ALL THE INDUSTRIALS DOWN IN FORT PIERCE, HUGE INCENTIVES DOWN IN PORT SAINT LUCIE.

THEY'RE NOT COMING HERE. THE EDC TRIES TO GET THEM HERE.

THEY'RE NOT COMING HERE. TITUSVILLE IS AN X AREA FOR INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE OF THE SPACE PROGRAM.

PALM BAY IS NOT REALLY SET UP FOR INDUSTRIAL.

IT'S NOT. I KEEP HEARING COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY DOING TO ATTRACT COMMERCIAL TO PALM BAY AND NOT JUST HINDER THE AVAILABILITY OF LAND HERE.

LIKE WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO PROMOTE COMMERCIAL? I GO TO ICSC.

I GO TO RETAIL LIVE.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY FROM PALM BAY THERE.

I SEE OTHER CITIES. THEY'RE TALKING TO ALL THE BIG MAJOR RETAILERS.

AND IF COMMERCIAL IS SO HOT AND SO, SO BIG, WHY AREN'T THEY COMING? AND PALM BAY IS NOT THE ONLY CITY THAT'S SUFFERING FROM THAT, BUT RETAIL ISN'T WHAT'S HOT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S NOT. IT'S WHAT MULTIFAMILY IS.

AND THE MORE BEDS AND HEADS YOU HAVE.

THE COMMERCIAL WILL COME JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

IT'S JUST SIMPLE MATH.

SO. YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR COUNTY SUPPORTS EMT SERVICES AND I KNOW SOME CITIZENS RAISED SOME CONCERN ABOUT RESPONSE TIME.

AND BEFORE OUR COUNTY HANDLES TRANSPORT, I THINK SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS SHOULD PROBABLY GO TO THE COUNTY MEETINGS AND RAISE THAT CONCERN TO OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

WITH THAT WILL PASS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME? SIR. THEN YOU'LL BE NEXT.

PHILLIP CORCORAN 1878 WHEN BROOK DRIVE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST THE MORATORIUM ARE PEOPLE THAT IT WILL BENEFIT THEIR BOTTOM LINE. I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT AND MAYBE RESPECT THE WISHES OF OUR PUBLIC THAT LIVE HERE IN THE CITY.

I HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THE TRAFFIC.

I HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THE INCONVENIENCES OF THIS URBAN SPRAWL THAT WE HAVE.

THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEW CHAPTER 185 THAT DR.

J. PUT TOGETHER, HE WILL NOTICE THAT THERE IS CHANGES MADE TO THE COMMERCIAL.

THERE USED TO BE A MAXIMUM IN THE COMMERCIAL SECTION OF THAT DOCUMENT.

NOW THERE'S A MINIMUM OK.

SO THINGS ARE BEING MADE TO PUSH COMMERCIAL, AND WE HAVE SOME GOOD PEOPLE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND ON THE BOARD TO GUIDE THIS CITY IN THE CORRECT DIRECTION. WE'VE DONE WE'VE MADE SOME AWFUL MISTAKES IN THE PAST.

WE NEED TO CORRECT THEM NOW.

WE NEED TO SUPPORT THIS MORATORIUM.

THANK YOU. IF.

NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET SOUTHWEST.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO JUST POSE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS MORATORIUM TO THE COUNCIL.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE STATED GOAL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT BEING MENTIONED ENOUGH, ALTHOUGH IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED, IS THAT EVERY DEVELOPMENT, EVERY REZONING, EVERY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION CHANGE THAT HAS UPSET THE VARIOUS PEOPLE IN, IN AND OUT OF THIS ROOM THAT MAKES THEM IN FAVOR OF THIS MORATORIUM. CAME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

AND YOU APPROVED THEM.

WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE UPSET.

SO AT ITS CORE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MORATORIUM TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.

THAT YOU HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER ALREADY.

AND SEEM TO HAVE NO DESIRE TO PULL BACK ON ASIDE FROM POSSIBLY THIS MORATORIUM.

WHICH IS AN ODDLY DRAMATIC STEP TO TAKE CONSIDERING THE PREVIOUS ACTIONS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

IN FACT, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE NUMBER ONE IN PUBLIC HEARINGS IS THE REZONING OF 124 ACRES, ALMOST 124 AND A HALF.

OF. ONE ACRE, ONE RESIDENTIAL, ONE UNIT PER ACRE, A REST, ONE PROPERTY.

SOME OF THE ONLY RISE, ONE PROPERTY WE HAVE LEFT IN PALM BAY.

CALL ME BILL. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE LEFT IN PALM BAY, THE REST OF IT'S ALREADY BEEN REZONED, 124, ALMOST

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TO BE. A REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER USE.

AMONG OTHER THINGS.

AND ALSO THIS IS I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE ACROSS THE STREET.

IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE AN RV PARK AND IT'S GOING TO BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM FRED POPULAR REGIONAL PARK, WHERE THE CITY ALREADY HAS $4 MILLION SQUIRRELED AWAY TO BUILD THEIR OWN RV PARK.

ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RV PARK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROVING.

THAT WOULD BE PRIVATELY OWNED.

AND WE ALSO WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT SERIOUSLY ENOUGH BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES BEING FACED BY THE RESIDENTS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A HOLD ON ALL BUILDING GOOD OR BAD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD BE A BLANKET.

TO STOP A REAL PROBLEM, BUT A REAL PROBLEM YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER AND IN A WAY THAT WOULD ALSO STOP ALL POSSIBLE GOOD BUILDING WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY TALKING ABOUT EXCEEDING THE 3% CAP ON PROPERTY TAX INCREASES BY AN ADDITIONAL 12.14%.

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MAYBE DON'T INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES BY 15%.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IT'S LIKE RUSTY MILL 1455 SOUTH WICKHAM.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO.

I LIKE THE CITY. I LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS BRUCE SAID AND MR. JAFFE SAID OVER HERE, I THINK IT'S THE OPTICS.

I THINK WE HAVE TO FIX THE PLAN.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE OPTICS.

OPTICS OF THAT, SENATOR, WHERE THE REALTORS AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH PUTTING THIS OUT THERE.

WE STILL WANT TO BRING PROJECTS IN.

AND THE OPTICS OF THIS, PUTTING THIS OUT, YOU KNOW, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, IT KIND OF SAYS, HEY, DON'T COME HERE RIGHT NOW.

COME BACK LATER WITH THAT.

AND AS I SAID, A LOT OF PROJECTS TAKE MONTHS TO GO THROUGH AND WE WORK.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO FIX THIS COMP PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S VALID POINTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE LINE. I CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A PROJECT IN FIGHT RIGHT NOW, BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A HUGE ISSUE.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE HOUSING, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE MORE JOBS.

AND I KNOW IT'S A CONCERN FOR LINDA WEATHERMAN.

SHE'S EXPRESSED THAT GREATLY.

ONE OF THE MEETINGS I THINK THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN, SHE SAID 300 JOBS ARE LOST OF OUR COUNTY.

THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT COMING FOR HOUSING.

PALM BAY HAS THAT LAND AND IS ONE OF THE BEST HOUSING AREAS TO BE IN.

SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON THAT.

IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO THIS AND WORK TOGETHER, AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE SEEN SEEING? NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.

I'M GOING TO GO.

WELL, I JUST CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I NEED EMOTION.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE.

A MOTION APPROVED WITH AMENDMENT OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A SECOND.

ORDINANCE 2022 DASH 100 WITH AN AMENDMENT OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER SIX, 2022, AND EXCLUDING PROJECTS THAT HAVE COMPLETED A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER SIX, 2022.

SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WHERE YOU MADE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THE REASON WHY I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK STAFF A QUESTION, BUT I LEANED OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER TO ASK IF THEY FELT THE MORATORIUM NEEDED TO BE EXTENDED, IF THEY FELT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING NECESSARY, AND SHE'LL PROBABLY NOT.

OR HECK, I KNOW IT'S ON US.

BUT SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS NECESSARY ON EXTENDING IT.

AND TO THAT POINT, THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ARE EXEMPT IN THIS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OR IF YOU READ THE WHOLE THING AND THE STAFF REPORT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ARE EXEMPT.

SO YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH.

IF IF AND THIS ISN'T A SHUTDOWN ON BUILDING I I HAD I THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON, FOR PULLING UP THE MAP, BUT ALL THAT YELLOW IS CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

ALL OF THAT IS CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL.

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SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TAKING.

I'M TELLING US JUST TAKE A SECOND.

THIS ISN'T A SHUTDOWN ON BUILDING.

THIS IS A PAUSE.

AND IF SOMETHING'S ALREADY ZONED RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY, YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. IT'S NOT STOPPING.

IT'S NOT SHUTTING DOWN BUSINESS.

IF ANYTHING, IT MORE SO INCENTIVIZES AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS BECAUSE LIKE MR. CORCORAN SAID, WE CHANGED WHERE IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, A MAXIMUM OF 20% COMMERCIAL FOR PODS TO A MINIMUM OF 20% COMMERCIAL PODS.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY TOOK TIME IN, MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE CITY AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR FOR EVERYONE, BOTH DEVELOPERS AND FOR RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I PUT THE ON THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, I UNDERSTAND LIKE, WHOA, LIKE HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO GO OUT.

THAT'S WHY I PUT THE SUPER SUPERMAJORITY VOTE.

SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT MY INTENT TO SHUT THINGS DOWN ON THE RESIDENTS SIDE, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND LIKE I HEAR I HEAR YOU.

AND TO THAT POINT, THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE COUNCIL HAS VOTED DOWN PROJECTS.

AND IF YOU VOTE DOWN A PROJECT FOR THOSE THAT KNOW, IT TAKES A YEAR TO COME BACK.

WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR SIX MONTHS.

SO IF THERE WAS PROJECTS THAT WERE COMING BEFORE US, I THINK IT WILL BE MORE PRUDENT FOR US TO SAY, HEY, OR YOU SUBMIT YOUR PROJECT, LET US UPDATE THIS AND THEN COME TO US ONCE YOU SEE WHAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF SHOOTING IT DOWN AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR INSTEAD OF SIX MONTHS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER POINT RIGHT THERE.

WHY I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND I HOPE COUNCIL WILL SEE THE SAME AS SO WE CAN GO FORWARD AND DO WHAT I THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE WHOLE CITY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR DEVELOPMENT.

MORE FORT GROWTH.

BUT NOT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

I JUST, I.

I WANT THE CITY TO DEVELOP.

I WANT DEVELOPERS TO COME TO PALM BAY.

BUT NOT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF BAY.

I'M SAYING THAT TWICE.

SO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HEAR ME CLEARLY.

ANY TIME WE APPROVE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE FIRST THING I ASK ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY.

I'M ALWAYS ON THAT.

GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEOTAPE.

UM. SO PUTTING A PAUSE FOR SIX MONTHS IF THE DEVELOPER CAN WAIT SIX MONTHS TO RE GET OUR CITY.

PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR TRAFFIC.

RIGHT. THEN THEY'RE NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY.

IT REALLY NOT BECAUSE THESE GUYS, I CALL THEM FAT CATS, THE GUYS WITH ALL THE MONEY.

AND WHEN THEY DEVELOP IN THIS CITY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE MOST THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT THE MOST FINANCIALLY.

THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT THE MOST FINANCIALLY AND AND THE CITY GETS.

PROVIDE SERVICE FOR THE NEW PEOPLE THAT'S COMING IN.

AND THAT COST THE TAXPAYER MONEY.

SO IF WE GET A ONE TIME IMPACT FEE AND THAT'S IT.

BUT I JUST CAN'T.

I VOTED NO BECAUSE IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME LAST TIME.

I COULDN'T SEE THE PATH OF OF MAKING IT WORK.

BUT NOW THAT WE BROUGHT IT BACK, IT'S AN ORDINANCE.

WE CAN TAKE A PAUSE.

I WANT TO GET THINGS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME I DON'T LIKE.

I KEEP REPEATING THIS.

I DON'T LIKE GOING BACK AND DOING IT OVER AGAIN.

THAT'S CALLED KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

NOT ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING.

PUTTING SOME OFF LATER WHEN WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IT NOW.

SO I WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC JAMS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SCHOOL BUSSES ARE SAFE GOING DOWN THE ROAD.

PEOPLE GETTING.

TO INFORM HOSPITALS.

OUR DEPARTMENT GETTING THERE ON TIME.

IT'S ALL TO ME. IT'S ALL ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT.

IF THEY DON'T IF THEY DON'T IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD AN PALM BAY, THEY CAN'T WAIT.

I'M TALKING TO DEVELOPERS.

IF YOU CAN'T WAIT SIX MONTHS FOR US TO GET THIS TRAFFIC STUDY IN OUR COMP PLAN.

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AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I'M REALLY M BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HERE FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF PALM BAY.

THE CITY WILL WORK WITH YOU.

WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO WORK WITH YOU.

YOU'VE GOT TO WORK WITH US.

SO IF YOU CAN'T WAIT SIX MONTHS.

IF YOU YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T WAIT SIX MONTHS TO GET THAT MONEY IN YOUR BACK POCKET.

I DON'T. DON'T.

DON'T CONTACT ME TO TALK ABOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL.

I DON'T. UM.

I'M NOT LOOKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

DEVELOPERS ARE ON AN ELECTION, AND I'M LOOKING FOR.

I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT.

I WANT ANY OF YOUR MONEY.

I DON'T NEED IT. WHAT I NEED IS FOR THIS COUNCIL TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

IF THIS VOTE IS THE BEST FOR PALM BAY, FOR PUTTING A PAUSE AND GETTING OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AND GETTING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RIGHT AND GETTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE THIS IS HORRIBLE TO SPEND AN HOUR IN TRAFFIC THAT'S MESSED UP YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

FOR MANY YEARS.

SO I JUST I HATE GOING TO ORLANDO AND A TRAFFIC JAM.

I REALLY DO. SO LET'S GET THIS RIGHT.

LET'S. LET'S APPROVE THIS.

LET'S. BUSINESS IS GOING TO COME.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME. IF THEY CAN'T WAIT FOR SIX MONTHS, THEY SHOULDN'T CAME HERE ANYWAY.

BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND AND IT'D BE BETTER FOR THEM TO COME WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEIR STUFF GET APPROVED.

BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE CHANGING ZONING LAWS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BUILD OUR CITY.

BUT I WANT TO DO IT RESPONSIBLY.

I WANT TO DO IT TO CITIZEN INPUT ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF BLUE COLLAR WORKERS HERE IN PALM BAY.

PLUMBERS, ELECTRICIANS, DRYWALL ERS.

I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE FOOD OFF THE TABLE.

I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS MORATORIUM.

LIKE I DIDN'T SUPPORT THE FIRST TIME.

I'M NOT GOING PUT THESE PEOPLE OUT OF THE JOB.

IT IS THIS COUNCIL'S FAULT.

MIKE. MIKE, SIR, IS THIS COUNCIL'S FAULT FOR THE URBAN SPRAWL THAT'S BEEN GOING ON? IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT.

I'M NOT PUNISHING THE DEVELOPER.

IF YOU ALL WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEM, IT'S NOT A MORATORIUM.

IF YOU GO TO THE BALLOT BOX, STRAIGHT UP.

US COUNCIL DECIDE NOT TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

MAYBE NOT THIS COUNCIL INCLUDED, BUT PREVIOUS COUNCILS TO.

WE'VE IMPROVED. THIS COUNCIL WAS APPROVED ANNEXATIONS URBAN SPRAWL WHICH HAVE STRAINED TOGETHER OUR SCHOOLS, POLICE, FIRE, ROADS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND IT WAS THIS COUNCIL THAT APPROVED THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND INDUSTRIAL AREA NEXT DOOR TO A CHEMICAL PLANT, WHICH THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT.

EVERY APPLICANT, EVERY PERSON HAS PROPERTY RIGHTS AND A RIGHT TO BE HEARD.

WE ARE THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKERS UP HERE.

WE CAN SAY YES OR NO.

AND WE HAVE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I GIVE THE MOST RECENT ONE, THE FALLON PROJECT, UNANIMOUSLY DENIED.

IT WAS GREAT. WE'RE LEARNING A LOT SINCE MARCH.

I WANT GROWTH FOR OUR CITY.

I WANT SMART GROWTH, CORE UNIT DEVELOPER GROWTH, WHICH IS CONTROLLED, ORGANIZED AND RESPONSIBLE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, STAFF CAN PERFORM THE TRAFFIC STUDIES.

WE JUST SAID THAT. AND SINCE MARCH, WE'VE WE'VE HIRED THREE NEW PEOPLE IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

WE HAVE A DOCTOR OF PLANNING OVER THERE IN THE BACK WHO IS GREAT AT HIS JOB.

SINCE I'VE ARRIVED, COUNTLESS COUNCIL REPORTS ON PLANNING AND ZONING HAVE GONE FROM THREE PAGES TO OVER 150 PAGES, IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.

REMARKABLE. STAFF IS DOING THEIR JOB.

COUNCIL IS NOT.

I ENCOURAGE HIS COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO THE FIRE CHIEF REGARDING RESPONSE TIMES TO THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, LISTEN TO OUR POLICE CHIEF REGARDING THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS WHEN A REZONING OCCURS.

LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS WHO SHOW UP HERE AT EVERY MEETING PLEADING WITH THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT NOT BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR BACKYARD, BUT FOR THE REASONS MENTIONED PRIOR.

WE FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

LASTLY, A DISCUSSION.

MY APOLOGIES. MORATORIUM IS THE EASY WAY OUT.

WE ARE WORKING THIS PROBLEM WITH COUNCIL.

WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS ON IMPACT FEES, PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE LIST GOES ON AND.

AND MORE WORKSHOPS ARE TO FOLLOW.

BUT I DO WANT TO LOOK AT THE POSITIVE.

AND WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS.

WE'RE LISTENING TO THE FOLKS.

WE BEGIN TO PUT A THOUGHT TOWARDS WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED.

AND I GIVE THAT EXAMPLE ON THE FILE AND PROJECT.

STAFF ADVISED STAFF ADVISE A MORATORIUM IS TEMPORARY IN NATURE.

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THIS HAPPENED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

THAT MORATORIUM IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SIX MONTH MORATORIUM.

THAT MORATORIUM WAS EXTENDED THREE TIMES.

MY PROBLEM WITH THE MORATORIUMS. I'M GOING TO GIVE ONE MORE EXAMPLE AS IT IS TODAY.

LET'S GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF STUDENT LOANS.

ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT TOOK OUT STUDENT LOANS AND NOW WE'VE HAD A MORE OF A NEW ADMINISTRATION COMES IN.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON STUDENT LOANS.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S EXTEND THE MORATORIUM.

EXTEND THE MORATORIUM.

AND NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RELIEVING ALL THAT DEBTS FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT PULLED OUT THE STUDENT LOANS.

SO THIS MORATORIUM CAN BE EXTENDED, AND THAT WORRIES ME EVEN IF IT IS A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE.

WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

WE CAN'T HAVE AFFORDABILITY AND IT PUT A HALT ON PROJECTS.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'RE HEARING THIS.

STAFF JUST ADVISED IT, ADDED A FEW FOLKS SINCE MARCH.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S STAFF.

WE JUST PASSED A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVE ON THE BASIS OF GIVING INCENTIVES TO DEVELOPERS, I.E.

WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE DENSITY, YET WE'RE STILL GOING TO PASS A MORATORIUM.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT UTILITIES, I'VE TALKED ABOUT SCHOOLS, I'VE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

ALL THAT STUFF IS NOW IN AND THE STAFF REPORTS.

IN CLOSING, I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MORATORIUM, AND I DON'T FEEL THIS MORATORIUM IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR US.

WE HAVE THE PROPER STAFF.

THE REAL WAY TO FIX THIS, AS YOU GO TO THE BALLOT BOX, PEOPLE HERE ARE TRYING TO SAVE FACE BECAUSE THEY SCREWED UP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I PROMISE I WON'T BE HALF AS LONG AS ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE.

I WAS GOING TO DELAY MY TIME NOT TO RESERVE MY COMMENT AND GO STRAIGHT TO VOTING.

BUT, YOU KNOW.

I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARD SUCH A CONTRADICTORY STATEMENT FROM MY COLLEAGUE ON MY LEFT.

I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T SIT HERE AND HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT RESPONSE TIME AND SAFETY, GREAT SAFETY SITUATION.

THEN WE WE DON'T WANT TO ADOPT A MONETARY.

I'M PUTTING A STOP.

I MEAN, THERE'S CURRENTLY MULTIPLE UNITS IN THIS CITY RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU CAN GO AHEAD TALKING TO THE DEVELOPERS.

YOU CAN GO OUT AND PURCHASE PROPERTY AND BUILD AND BUILD MULTI FAMILIES.

YOU NEED TEN UNIT 1546 HOMES, PLENTY OF INVENTORY.

YOU CAN GO IN AND PURCHASE PROPERTY AND BUILD BUILD MULTIFAMILY.

I THINK THIS IS NECESSARY.

THIS IS SMART.

THERE'S A REASON WHY OUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD VOTED FOR IT.

I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, ALL CITIZENS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ASKING, EXCEPT FOR A FEW FOLKS THAT LOOK IN FOR THEIR BEST INTEREST.

I CAN GUARANTEE YOU A SHOW OF HANDS IF IF I ASK WHO'S AGAINST IT? WHERE DO THEY CURRENTLY RESIDE? GUARANTEE YOU NINE OUT OF TEN.

THEY DON'T LIVE IN PALM BAY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I PROMISE I WOULDN'T BE LONG.

OBVIOUSLY, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.

I THINK IT'S A SMART THING TO DO.

THAT'S WHAT OUR CITIZENS ARE ASKING.

ALL OUR RED SHIRTS, WE OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THEM.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW MY COLLEAGUE, YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAY, MY FRIENDS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FELIX, FIRST, I LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M TAKEN BACK BY BY A LOT OF THE COMMENTS HERE, BUT I'LL SAY THIS AND AND I'LL USE MR. BRUCE MOYA AS AN EXAMPLE SINCE HE CAME UP AND AND THEY THEY MENTIONED HOW HE'S THE ONLY DEVELOPER AND SO ON.

WHEN MR. BRUCE MOYA CAME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND HE WANTED TO REZONE JOE DOWDY GOLF COURSE, WHERE TO ME, THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS ARE PRECIOUS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I ASKED THIS COUNCIL NOT TO VOTE FOR THAT.

I LOOKED AT HIM AND HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT THERE'S A MARKET, BUT NOT FOR ONE ACRE LOTS.

YOU KNOW, WE.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO VOTE AWAY OUR ONE ACRE LOT AND THEN EXPECT THAT TRAFFIC ISN'T GOING TO INCREASE AND EXPECT THAT OUR RESPONSE TIME ISN'T GOING TO INCREASE.

THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, I THINK MY MESSAGE CHIEF MENTIONED YOU GUYS VOTED, TOOK AWAY ALL OF THESE FIVE ACRE PLOTS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S PRECIOUS FOR US, RIGHT? BUT THIS COUNCIL DID IT ANYWAY.

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GETTING FINANCES FOR STATION NUMBER SEVEN.

AND I WAS INSTRUCTED THAT THE RECONSIDERATION PROCESS HAD TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL.

ELSA WOULD HAVE TO SAY YAY OR NAY FOR US TO RECONSIDER.

AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ON IT THE WAY THIS WE VOTED NAY ON THIS.

WE CAN SAY THAT, YES, THERE WASN'T AN ORDINANCE THAT WASN'T.

I JUST THINK PROCEDURALLY WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THESE RECONSIDERATIONS, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE WAS WE VOTED THIS NO.

AND WHETHER YOU SAY IN THEORY OR IN LOGIC, WE VOTED NO.

THREE TO MAYBE A FEW SHORT WEEKS AGO.

AND THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT, GENTLEMEN.

I'VE BEEN ASKING TO KEEP OUR ZONING.

AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE OLD JOE DADDY GOLF COURSE, THEY.

THEY THEY CAME BEFORE US AND SAID THE DENSITY WASN'T GOING TO BE AS HIGH.

AND NOW THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, WE WANT CONDOMINIUMS. AND THIS COUNCIL VOTED OK.

WE'RE GOING TO ADD CONDOMINIUMS THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO FLOOD.

EMERSON MOORE, WHEN YOU HAVE TURNER ELEMENTARY THERE.

SO I'M HEARING IT.

I AGREE. I'M HEARING IT FROM FROM BOTH SIDES.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS WITH WITH GOOD EYES EACH AND EVERY ZONING ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE US.

NOW, I AM PERPLEXED BY WHAT HAS OCCURRED TO LEAD US DOWN INTO THIS PATH TODAY.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.

I UNDERSTAND WORKING WITH OUR DEVELOPERS AND COMING TO A RESOLVED.

I LOVE THE WAY THE RUSTY NAIL CAME UP AND SAID, LISTEN, WE GOT TO COME TO A COMPROMISE HERE.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I'VE BEEN SAYING WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, THE LAST 20 YEARS.

IT'S TWO DECADES.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY WE SHOULD BE RECLASSIFYING OUR ROADS AND NOT WAITING FOR THE COMPLAINT AMENDMENT PROCESS TO CONCLUDE.

NOW WOULD HAVE THAT TAKEN A BIGGER EFFORT FROM STAFF? YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

I BELIEVE IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

ALL THAT TO SAY MY MY HEART IS FOR THE RESIDENTS.

BUT THAT SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR.

IT HAD BEEN RECLASSIFIED.

THAT ROAD CORRIDOR OR THAT ROAD RECLASSIFICATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE CHANGING YOUR VOTE.

I LOVE THE WAY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SAID.

I CAN'T TAKE.

FOOD AWAY FROM THE TABLE OF THESE BLUE WORKERS, THESE BLUE COLLAR WORKERS.

YOU KNOW, I AM PERPLEXED THAT WE'RE AT THIS JUNCTION.

YOU GUYS HAVE THE VOTES.

I DON'T LIKE HOW WE GOT HERE BECAUSE WE VOTED NAY BEFORE.

SO I'LL CALL THE VOTE.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU MADE THE MOTION.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR? I ALL OPPOSE.

THEY PASSED THIS 3 TO 2.

SO BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING, NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THANK YOU. ONE MINUTE COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

OKAY.

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WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NUMBER ONE, MISS SMITH.

AUDIENCE 2022.

THAT'S 69.

AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS. SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THE APPLICANT. PLEASE PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THERE THEY GO. HEY, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU, JAKE WYSE.

HIS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST GALLY BOULEVARD.

THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU MULTIPLE TIMES PREVIOUSLY.

WE GAVE A VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION THE FIRST TIME, SO WE WON'T GO BACK THROUGH THAT UNLESS OF COURSE, YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

BUT JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS.

WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

IT'S AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PARKWAY AND WEST MALABAR ROAD.

SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT, THE PROJECT IS 124 ACRES, 24 ACRES OF IT IS DEDICATED TO COMMERCIAL.

ANOTHER 16 ACRES IS PROPOSED TO BE A MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS TAXED THE SAME AS COMMERCIAL IN WHICH WE BELIEVE IS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THAT COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ABOUT 40 ACRES, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.

WE ACTUALLY WERE IN THE COUNTY, AS I MENTIONED, WE JUST WERE RECENTLY ANNEXED IN AND WE COULD HAVE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A LOT SOONER IN THE COUNTY, BUT WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THE CITY. WE THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE IN THE CITY.

AS YOU KNOW, I COME BEFORE YOU ALL THE TIME AND IT IS THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD AND WE WANT TO KEEP DOING THAT.

THIS PROJECT WOULD ACTUALLY EXTEND THE FIRST LEG OF THE PARKWAY SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD AS PART OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT BY THE CITY.

SO THAT'S ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

AS PART OF IT, AS I MENTIONED, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY FOR ALL THIS TIME LAST COUNCIL MEETING, MR. POPE EVEN CAME UP AND SAID THAT WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE CITY OR THEIR CAMPGROUND, WE'RE ACTUALLY SUPPORTING IT.

WE'LL GET PHONE CALLS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUSH TOWARDS THEM.

I'VE DONE A LOT OF PROJECTS IN THIS CORRIDOR AND THIS VICINITY, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION.

THIS PROJECT, WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION.

IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, SINCE YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PROJECT SO MANY TIMES, I WON'T GO INTO ANY MORE.

BUT WE HAVE HAD YOUR UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.

WE'VE HAD P AND Z UNANIMOUS SUPPORT PREVIOUSLY, STAFF SUPPORT, AND WE EVEN HAD MR. BILL BATTEN SUPPORT THE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH WE GOT A TICKET ON A HORSE ON THIS PROPERTY ONE TIME BEFORE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

YES, SIR. I THINK THE ISSUE WAS A HORSE TRAIL WHEN IT CAME TO MASTER CHIEF.

BUT I WANTED YOU TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE RV PARK AND AND THE THE COMPETITION BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IN REGARDS TO THAT, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE AN UPSCALE RV PARK.

OH, YEAH. THANK YOU.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PROVIDING A PARK THAT HAS NEWER RVS, SO IT'D BE SHORT TERM RENTALS.

IT WOULD BE PEOPLE COMING HERE, HOPEFULLY GOING FISHING AT THREE FORKS, HOPEFULLY USING THE RESTAURANTS, SHOPPING IN THE STORES NEARBY, AND BASICALLY BE A HUGE SUPPORT OF THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL WITH THAT.

AND SO THE CAMPGROUND PROJECT THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO DO IS MORE OF A CAMPING, MORE OF A RURAL.

THIS IS HAS WATER AND SEWER TO EVERY SITE, HAS WI FI, HAS CABLE, HAS A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT ARE PLANNED TO BE PART OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE DON'T SEE THEM AT ALL AS COMPETITION.

WE ACTUALLY SEE THEM AS HELPING TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND THAT'S HOW WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON IT.

AND PART OF THAT ALSO IS THAT CORRIDOR, THAT INTERSECTION THERE, ST JOHN'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT'S WHAT'S OF CONCERN TO ME AS WELL MOVING FORWARD.

KNOW HOW THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT? SURE. YEAH, THEY ABSOLUTELY WILL BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC BY EXTENDING THE PARKWAY, THOUGH, WE'LL TAKE A LOT OF THE TRIPS OFF OF MALABAR ROAD AND BE ABLE TO GO STRAIGHT UP THE PARKWAY. AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, I'M SURE THAT PORTION OF THE PARKWAY HAS ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED AND PERMITTED FOR ADDITIONAL LANES, AND SO PORTIONS OF IT ARE DESIGNED FOR

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SO THAT'S ALL PART OF IT.

MR. WATANABE, OF COURSE, CAN PROVIDE A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN I CAN, BUT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A STUDY DONE ON MALABAR ROAD.

THE PDA IS ADVANCING FORWARD VERY QUICKLY, SO HOPEFULLY THAT PROCESS WILL ALSO HELP IMPROVE.

THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY, AS MANY OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE IN THIS CORRIDOR FOR THAT ANTICIPATED FUTURE EXTENSION OF MALABAR ROAD.

SO IT'S A LOT OF GOOD BENEFITS AS WELL AS BRINGING IN THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS WAS COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YES. I DON'T LIVE TOO FAR FROM THAT INTERSECTION AND I CAN SEE HOW IT'S DEVELOPING AS FAR AS THAT CAMPGROUND WILL BE A HUGE.

IN ADDITION TO PALM BAY.

LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT ARE THEY PROJECTION ONCE THAT CAMP GROUND.

IT'S RV PARK.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

GETS DONE.

WHAT IS IT? A PROJECTION AS FAR AS USE CONCERN? HOW MANY CUSTOMERS? HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP TO.

DO THEY HAVE A PROJECTION? WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECTION BECAUSE WE'RE SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS.

THE LAND WAS JUST ANNEXED IN.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE APPROVAL AND A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO START TO LOOK AT THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS.

SO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN, BUT WE HAVEN'T DUG DEEP INTO THOSE TYPES OF NUMBERS YET.

HAS THIS DEVELOPER DONE A RV CAMPGROUND LIKE THIS BEFORE? THEY HAVE.

I HAVE DONE MULTIPLE RV PARKS BEFORE.

AS AN ENGINEER. I ACTUALLY AM PARTIAL OWNER OF ONE THAT'S IN OUR COUNTY AS WELL.

SO WE DO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THEM AND THEN THEY ARE OUR VIEWERS AS WELL.

SO THEY'VE GONE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES IN OUR RVS AND HAVE REALLY RESEARCHED IT TREMENDOUSLY.

WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A HUGE NEED FOR THEM.

IT'S BECOME MORE AND MORE POPULAR, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC.

AND THE EXPENSE OF THESE NEW RVS ARE PRETTY AMAZING.

WE'RE THE ENGINEERS FOR GIANT RECREATION WORLD, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL YEARS AGO AND HAS DONE EXPANSION SINCE THEN.

AND THEY BRING IN A VERY HIGH INCOME LEVEL AND THEY COME HERE LOOKING TO SPEND MONEY BASICALLY.

SO WE THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT SUPPORT FOR PALM BAY YEAH, I THINK SO TOO, BECAUSE OF COURSE THE CORNER WHERE YOU PROJECTED TO HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S GOING TO BE SOME COMMERCIAL THERE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THERE.

WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL? I THINK THE SUPERMARKET MAY BE, BUT OTHER COMMERCIAL AND THE HOUSING AROUND THAT CORNER DOWN FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND OFF ST JOHN HERITAGE IS GROWING.

SO I JUST SEE A REALLY WONDERFUL TAX REVENUE COMING IN THE CITY AND A PLACE TO GO VISIT.

THAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO DEVELOP WITH THAT RV PARK.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO PUT PALM BAY ON THE MAP AS FAR AS RV AND HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THAT SPILLS OVER TO THE REGIONAL PARK.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING AND EXPECTING AS WELL.

THAT'S WHAT I READ, BECAUSE ONCE THEY IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK, THEY'VE GOT TO GO.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAME HERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK.

MORE LIKELY TO GO TO THE REGIONAL PARK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. AND HE AND HE SPEAK, OF COURSE, NATHAN WHITE.

NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABURY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I SUPPOSE WITH QUESTIONS, THE ANSWERS TO MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS, I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT.

I WANTED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO QUESTIONS THAT WERE APPARENTLY ALREADY ASKED WITHIN THE CORRESPONDENCE AS LISTED FOR THIS ITEM.

A SCOT WITH B.C.

CONSULTANTS BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF POINTS ONE BEING THAT THE THE ACE PLANS FOR THE.

UH. FOR THE PARKWAY EXTENSION.

I BELIEVE THIS IS THE LINES HERE.

THEY'VE NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET.

AND ONE OF THE THREE PROPOSED ROUTES FOR THE ACE CORRIDORS IS ROUTED RIGHT THROUGH THIS AREA.

THAT WOULD BE THREE FORKS AS WELL AS.

THE FACT THAT IT SAYS HERE, IT SHOWS THAT THREE FORKS MIXED USE PLAN WOULD INTERFERE WITH CURRENT ACCESS TO PLAT LANDS TO THE LANDS THERE.

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AND. ALSO.

IF WE ARE, I AM ALL FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS.

PERSONAL RIGHTS, AND THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR LAND WITHIN SAFETY AND REASON.

SO AS HAS THE COUNCIL PERHAPS CONSIDER OR WOULD THE COUNCIL PERHAPS CONSIDER IF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS THREE FORKS MIXED USE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE AN RV PARK, PERHAPS FOREGOING THE RV CAMPGROUND THAT THE CITY WOULD BE USING TAX DOLLARS TO PARTIALLY TAX DOLLARS TO BUILD.

AND DEPENDING ON WHERE THOSE TAX DOLLARS CAME FROM.

EXACTLY, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE RULES WITH IMPACT FEES, MAYBE REALLOCATING THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS A SOUTHWEST FIRE STATION.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE GIST OF IT.

THE FLATLANDS, THE EAST CORRIDOR.

AND THE REALLOCATION OF FUNDS SO WE DON'T DOUBLE UP OUR OUR RV LOCATIONS AT THE CORNER OF TWO ONE LANE ROADS.

THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIRMAN, DID YOU TAKE THAT DOWN? I THINK ONE IS TDCJ FUNDING, BUT YOU WILL ADDRESS THOSE AT THE END, OR CAN WE ADDRESS THEM RIGHT NOW? IF YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS IT NOW, I CAN.

SPECIFIC TO THE FUNDING FOR THE, UM, THE, UH, FRED PUPPY REGIONAL PARK CAMPGROUNDS.

YES, THERE WAS, UM, A PORTION OF THE FUNDING THAT DID COME FROM TDC, SO IT'S DEDICATED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THERE WAS ANOTHER PORTION I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PORTION THAT CAME FROM PARKS IMPACT FEES.

SO THAT HAS TO BE USED FOR THOSE PURPOSES.

AND THERE WAS ALSO A PORTION THAT WAS GENERAL FUND AND DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.

SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT TWO OF THOSE THREE FUNDING SOURCES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR A FIRE STATION.

REPORTER CERTAINLY I CAN TALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT.

THE ALTERNATE CORRIDOR EVALUATION STUDY IS ONGOING, HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET.

WE ARE IN ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONSULTANT AS WELL AS WITH ST JOHN'S REGIONAL WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WHO OWNS PROPERTY THAT IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY IN THE LINE OF A STRAIGHT SOUTH SHOT OF THESE ST JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, WHICH IS THE CITY'S PREFERRED ALIGNMENT.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM, WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND WORKING ON THE PLANS FOR THAT FUTURE ALIGNMENT.

AND PART OF, AS YOU HEARD THE DEVELOPER MENTION, THEIR COMMITMENT VERBALLY, WHICH WILL BE PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IS THAT THE INITIAL SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY FROM MALABAR WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THEY THEY WILL FUND AND CONSTRUCT A PORTION OF AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON WITH WITH THEM AND OTHERS IN THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. APPRECIATE IT.

SPEAK OF CARD STEPPING, MA'AM.

NO ELSE. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF, STEP FORWARD.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE WAS DOES IT LOOK HIGHLY PROBABLE THAT THE MELBOURNE TILMON WATER CONTROL DISTRICTS IS GOING TO APPROVE THEIR.

A BRIDGE GOING ACROSS THE CANAL BECAUSE THAT HAS TO GO ACROSS THE CANAL TO REACH THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

NOW JUST GENERATES A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

FIRST OFF, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE BIGGEST REASON WAS THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD IT, WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO MONEY, GOING TO THE COUNTY OR THAT MONEY COMING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I WATCHED THE COUNTY GET SO MUCH OF MY MONEY ALREADY, I'D PREFER IT BE HERE.

THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE.

I'D RATHER THAT TAX REVENUE BE HERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT IF THE CHILDREN IF THEY CAN CROSS THE TILLMAN CANAL DISTRICT, BUT THEN JUST SOUTH OF THAT WAS WHERE YOU WOULD START HAVING THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY COMING UP FROM THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY SOUTH COMING UP, TOO.

SO NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER BRIDGE THAT HAS TO CROSS THE TILLMAN CANAL DISTRICT.

ALSO, IF THERE WAS ANY WAY THAT THEY COULD MAYBE WORK WHERE THEY ONLY HAVE TO BUILD ONE BRIDGE BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING THIS BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE TAX DOLLAR.

SO IF THERE WOULD BE SOME WAY WE CAN JUST MANIPULATE THAT DRAWING A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE ONLY HAVE TO BUILD ONE BRIDGE AND THEY BUILD IT INSTEAD OF CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT WOULD BE A PLUS FOR FOR BILL BATTEN.

THE SECOND ONE WAS AS IT CURRENTLY ROUTE THAT THROUGH THE.

THROUGH THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF THE THREE POTENTIAL ROUTES AT THE AT THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY WAS COMING.

THEY ALLEVIATE ONE OF THE POTENTIAL ROUTES.

SO NOW WE'RE ONLY DOWN TO TWO POTENTIAL ROUTES.

AND JUST I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT WAS GOING TO IMPACT.

BUT THE CITY MANAGER KIND OF ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT WITH WITH IN IN CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW.

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AND THEY STILL DIDN'T GIVE ME A HORSE TRAIL.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE THAT, SIR.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T TRY, SIR.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. SO.

THE POSSIBILITY OF THE BRIDGE.

ONE BRIDGE FROM MELBOURNE, TILLMAN.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR.

YOUR GO GET EM ATTITUDE, BILL.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE WILL ADD THAT TO OUR CONVERSATIONS.

WE HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS RELATED TO ROADWAY EXTENSIONS, EXPANSIONS, IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

ALL OF THAT WILL TIE TO THINGS WE HAVE YET TO LOOK AT IN GREATER DEPTH, WHICH INCLUDES TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE AT THE I THINK WE'RE STILL AT THE LAND USE ITEM.

WE WILL SHORTLY BE AT THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT ALL OF THAT WILL BE WORKED THROUGH AS WE GO INTO OUR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN LATER ON.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

MOTION APPROVED. VAUGHN IT'S 2020 269 FINAL READING SO I CAN ADD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DEPUTY MAYOR.

NOTHING ELSE TO ADD, SIR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. NOTHING THAT WELL, I'LL ADD FOR YOU.

I LIKE THE COMMERCIAL PIECE ON THE FRONTAGE OF MALABAR ROAD.

I REALLY. I THINK MASTER CHIEF BATTEN HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO AUTHORIZE THIS ANYWAY.

AND SO I'M GLAD AND THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND AND WANTING TO TO ANNEX INTO THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

THAT BEING SAID, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAYING TO MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ALL IN FAVOR I AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MADAM SMITH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBERS TWO, FOUR AND FIVE.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER WAS NOT A SPEAKER WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH, OR ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59.03. EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES PER WITNESS.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

RESOLUTION 2022, THAT'S 40 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A PROPOSED REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER TO BE KNOWN AS THREE FOURTHS.

MIXED USE IN A NEW AGRICULTURAL, RESIDENTIAL BREVARD COUNTY AND SE OUTER SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL RIVERA COUNTY ZONING WITH A TENTATIVE ZONING OF RHC REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD, IN THE VICINITY EAST OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND WEST OF MELBOURNE TUNNEL, MELBOURNE, TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL EIGHT, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU. JAKE WISE 2651 WEST VALLEY BOULEVARD.

SINCE THIS IS SO CLOSELY RELATED TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE MY 30 MINUTES AT ALL.

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THIS ONE IS MORE SPECIFIC TO THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

IT SPECIFICALLY SHOWS THAT EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY THAT WE ARE TALKING.

WE HAVE MET WITH MILBURN TILLMAN ON SITE.

WE HAVE DONE MANY CROSSINGS OVER MELBOURNE, TILMON CANALS AND THEY OF COURSE HAVE HAS TO BE DESIGNED CORRECTLY, BUT THEY ABSOLUTELY ARE WORKING WITH US TO DO THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE CANALS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE PROJECT, SO ALL OF OUR STORMWATER DISCHARGE WILL GO INTO THOSE CANALS AS WELL.

SO WE'VE MET WITH THEM ABOUT THAT.

AND JUST IN CASE THIS COUNCIL IS NOT AWARE, MELBOURNE TILMAN HAS VERY, VERY STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS ABOUT HOW MUCH ALLOWABLE DISCHARGE WE ARE ALLOWED.

IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 90% LESS THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO ON MOST OTHER SITES PER STATE AND MUNICIPAL CODES.

SO IT WILL BE DESIGNED TO A MUCH HIGHER STANDARD THAN WE WOULD IN OTHER PROPERTIES IN PALM BAY OR OTHER PARTS OF PALM BAY OR FOR THE COUNTY.

EXCUSE ME. SO THAT BEING SAID, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND I APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AS ALWAYS, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. I'LL ASK WHAT MASTER CHIEF BENTON SAID ABOUT THAT ONE BRIDGE.

OH, WELL, SEE, THAT'S PART OF THE CORRIDOR STUDY THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ROUTES.

SO THEY'VE DONE A PRELIMINARY STUDY.

CITY STAFF HAS GONE BACK TO THE ENGINEERS THAT DID THAT STUDY, AND THEY DIDN'T REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR EVEN ST JOHN'S WHO OWNS LAND.

SO NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO GET INTO MORE DETAIL AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT CORRIDORS.

SO IF THAT AS THAT PROCESS MOVES FORWARD, THEY'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.

BUT THIS IS A 200 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A BIG SWEEPING CURVE THAT'S GOING TO CROSS THAT CANAL AT SOME POINT WHEREVER THEY DEEM THAT BEST TO BE.

AND THE PARKWAY ITSELF MOST LIKELY WILL PROBABLY BE DEVELOPER DRIVEN QUITE A BIT, ESPECIALLY THIS FIRST LEG.

AND WE CAN SEE DOWN THE ROAD FURTHER SOUTH THAT IT CAN BE DEVELOPED OR DRIVEN MORE.

SO THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT LIKE WE'RE DOING ON THE FIRST LEG, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT AND YET HOPEFULLY LOOP IT ALL THE WAY AROUND EVENTUALLY AND OF COURSE BE A WONDERFUL BENEFIT TO THE CITY FOR HURRICANE EVACUATION AND ALL THE OTHER REASONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE SPEAKERS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. WEISS. FRANK COLOMBO.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNSEL.

I WANT TO START THANK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON FOR ADDING MY EMAIL INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORD THAT I SENT TO ALL OF YOU PREVIOUSLY.

I DON'T HAVE I ACTUALLY LIVE IN PARKSIDE WEST, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE TO THE RV PARK AND THE COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD HAVE A SHARED ENTRANCE.

TO ME, THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE GIVEN THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN BETWEEN PARKSIDE WEST HERITAGE AND THE PARK. IT'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY SCHOOL BUSSES THAT PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND OUR STUDENTS HAVE TO WALK ACROSS MALABAR ROAD AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE AT 830 IN THE MORNING, THERE WILL BE 30 CARS GOING ONE WAY AND 30 CARS GOING THE OTHER.

I HAVE TO IMAGINE OUR VIEWERS WOULD BE COMING, WOULD BE LEAVING IN THE MORNINGS AND COMING IN SOMETIME IN THE AFTERNOON TO PARK FOR THE EVENING STAY.

LIKE ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S ON VACATION.

SO OUR CONCERN MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A CONFLUENCE OF RV'S.

SCHOOL BUSSES, PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO WORK IN THE MORNING.

AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON, YOU'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE AT LONG DAGGERS TRYING TO JUMP ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, DODGING RVS AS THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT.

I JUST DON'T SEE THE RV ENTRANCE THERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MOVED EITHER DOWN TOWARDS FRED POPPY PARK ACROSS.

MAKE THAT A SHARED ENTRANCE SINCE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE GOING TO BE THERE GATED BEFORE THEY CAN PULL OFF TO THE RIGHT BEFORE THEY GET TO THE GATES FOR THE RVS.

OR MOVE IT TO HERITAGE ONTO THE PARKWAY, ADD ANOTHER BRIDGE, SOMEHOW REDESIGN THINGS SO THAT TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING OFF OF HERITAGE PARKWAY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE THE TURN ON TO MALABAR.

THEY CAN JUST KEEP GOING STRAIGHT AND PULL INTO THE RV PARK.

WE DON'T HAVE TO SPLIT IT OFF FROM THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC BECAUSE MY FAMILY MIGHT.

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LIKE YOU COMMERCIAL.

IT'S GREAT. I CAN GO EAT, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK ACROSS THAT THAT HIGHWAY.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL IT A HIGHWAY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FOUR LANES WITHOUT A CROSSWALK AT PARKSIDE IN THE PROPOSAL TODAY.

SO EITHER WE NEED TO ADD A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

AND MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT SAFER AT PARKSIDE AS WELL AS THE PARK AND HERITAGE AND HAVE THREE LIGHTS WITHIN A THIRD OF A MILE.

IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE ON MALABAR IN FRONT OF WALMART, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

WE DON'T MIND THE PROJECT.

I DON'T MIND THE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S GREAT.

RV'S ARE WONDERFUL, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REDESIGNED SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT CONFLUENCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF PARKSIDE WEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I WILL SAY I AGREE THAT THAT RV PARK SHOULD HAVE AN ENTRANCE, AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW, EXITING ONTO HERITAGE.

RIGHT. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RV PROPOSED PARK AT FRED POPPI REGIONAL GOING ON TO HERITAGE AND AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING GETTING THEIR RV PARK TO DISCHARGE.

BUT MA'AM CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE PROPOSED LIGHT INTERSECTION LIGHT THAT WE NEED TO PUT UP? AT HERITAGE IN MALABAR.

WE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION TO BREVARD COUNTY EARLIER THIS WEEK FOR THE THE NEW SIGNAL AT MALABAR AND ST JOHN'S PARISH PARKWAY.

THERE ARE OTHER TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR THAT WILL BE DEVELOPER DRIVEN.

MR. COLOMBO ALSO SPOKE ABOUT THE ONE ON PAK SIDE WHEN WHEN THIS IS PROPOSED, WHEN THIS SITE IS PROPOSED, THE POTENTIAL FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE. I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY LOOKED AT THE STUDIES RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OR IF WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT THAT YET, SINCE WE'RE STILL AT PRELIMINARY.

WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME FORTH AND.

THANK YOU. YEAH, THESE ARE EXACT SCENARIOS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

IF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN IS APPROVED, THE NEXT THING WE WOULD DO IS TRAFFIC STUDIES AND LOOK AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHERE THE ENGINEERS FOR BRENTWOOD, LAKES FOR CHAPARRAL, THOSE ARE BOTH WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITHOUT IT BEING WARRANTED.

SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT FORMAL PROCESS.

WE'RE FULLY ANTICIPATING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO BE WARRANTED, AT LEAST AT THE SHARED ENTRANCE AT FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK.

AND THEN THERE MIGHT BE ORIENTED ELSEWHERE.

ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN GREAT DETAIL AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING WAS THE WALKABILITY.

WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT PUBLIX HAS ALREADY HAS A PARCEL THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SAME INTERSECTION.

WE KNOW THE CITY IS ADDING THIS TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

AND WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WAS PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, WHICH WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR EARLIER TONIGHT, TALKING ABOUT AND MAKING IT A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

WE WANT IT TO BE SAFE.

GOING ACROSS MALABAR ROAD FOR A SCHOOL BUS STOP IS UNBELIEVABLE.

I ACTUALLY CALLED THE SCHOOL BOARD ONCE MYSELF AND MY SON WAS SUPPOSED TO CROSS THE STREET FOR A BUS STOP.

THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN AND THEY CHANGED THE BUS STOP FOR ME.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD DO WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

I'VE DONE IT SUCCESSFULLY, BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE WANT THE ESPECIALLY THE RV PARK, BUT ALL OF THE PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO WALK OVER TO PUBLIX, TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE RESTAURANTS, LOVE PARKSIDE WEST TO WALK OVER.

WE WANT THEM TO GO TO THE PARK.

THAT IS A TREMENDOUS PARK.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY WEEKENDS I'VE SPENT THERE AND SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AND OTHER EVENTS.

AND IT'S JUST A JEWEL FOR THIS PORTION OF PALM BAY.

AND SO WE WANT THAT TO BE A HUGE ASSET AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

SO THAT'S CRITICAL TO US AND HOW WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR STUDIES AS AS IT MOVES ON.

BUT WE'RE FULLY ANTICIPATING THE NEED FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY WITH RESPECT TO THE RVS.

TYPICALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY COME, THEY STAY, THEY HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE.

SO THE RVS AREN'T COMING AND GOING AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.

THEY WOULD COME AND STAY FOR A WEEK, A MONTH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEN UTILIZE OTHER VEHICLES.

TYPICALLY WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DESIGN SO THAT THEY'RE EXTENDED LONGER SITES BECAUSE THE REVIEWS ARE GETTING BIGGER, THE TRAILERS BEHIND THEM ARE GETTING BIGGER.

SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING ALL OF THESE NEEDS FOR IT THAT RV PARKS HAVE JUST HAVE JUST CHANGED A LOT.

AND THEY HAVE CHECKOUT TIMES.

THEY CHECK IN USUALLY AROUND 11 A.M..

THEY CHECK OUT AROUND 3:00 PM EXCUSE ME, THEY CHECK OUT AROUND 11 A.M.

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SO AND THOSE HOURS CAN BE ADJUSTED, OF COURSE, TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OUT THERE IN THE AFTERNOONS, I'VE WATCHED THE TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SCHOOL LETS OUT AND IN THE PEAK HOUR IN THE MORNING AS WELL.

SO YEAH, THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE THE VERY NEXT STEP OF WHAT WE WOULD DO IF THIS PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ALSO? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

HEY, ANY OTHER SPEAKER CODES? DEPUTY MAYOR C NONE.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED RESOLUTION 2022.

DASH 40 MAYOR YEAH.

CARRY ON. WELL, I REMOVE MY MOTION.

OH, THANK YOU, SIR.

MADAM MAYOR, WE DO NOT DO A LOT OF AC REZONINGS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS HERE IS, OF COURSE, WE HAD THE PLANNED AMENDMENT AND WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME CONFUSION, BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS A ZONING AMENDMENT, BECAUSE THE ZONING AMENDMENT IS BY ORDINANCE.

AND THE WAY IN WHICH THE ORDINANCE READS THE ZONING AMENDMENT AND THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE ONE, THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A SITE PLAN OF SORTS.

THIS IS WHAT WE APPROVE BY RESOLUTION.

THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS APPROVED BY RESOLUTION, AND IT'S ACTUALLY THE ONLY THING THAT SHOULD BE STANDALONE.

WE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE APPROVING AN ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY AFFECTS THE ZONING, WHICH WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE.

SO. SO WE SHOULDN'T BE MAKING A DECISION ON THIS AND JUST BRINGING.

BRINGING THIS BACK.

YEAH. THIS WAS AN ERROR.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE A STANDALONE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOULD BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE TO REZONE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE HERE.

IS ONLY THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IS PASSED BY RESOLUTION.

SO ACTUALLY.

YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO PASS.

YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION HERE WHEN YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS.

YES. AND HOW LONG BEFORE WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED? MADAM ATTORNEY. WELL, I'M GOING TO TALK THROUGH WITH STAFF AS FAR AS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT.

FOR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. OCTOBER SIX ARE.

WE HAVE I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

OKAY. SO THE JUST A QUICK EXPLANATION JUST TO HELP SOME FOLKS OUT IN GENERAL.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID SO FAR.

SO THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, A TRADITIONAL PDA APPLICATION THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU MOST OF THE TIME IS ESTABLISHED BY FIRST A RESOLUTION THAT GIVES IT A TENTATIVE ZONING AND THEN BY ORDINANCE LATER AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE REVERSE IS TRUE FOR A REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER INSTEAD OF REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER IS APPROVED AT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THE PD PHASE AS THE ZONING DISTRICT IT ESTABLISHES IT.

SO THEREFORE IT NEEDS AN ORDINANCE ATTACHED TO IT RATHER THAN THE RESOLUTION.

BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE IS WHAT ESTABLISHES THE ZONING DISTRICT.

THE WAY WE HAD HAD IT ADVERTISED WAS IN CUMBERSOME WITH THE PD.

SO IT SAYS TENTATIVE ZONING ON THERE AS WELL AS IT'S SAYING THAT IT IS FOR A REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER, ZONING CHANGE THAT IS A CONFLICT IN THE ADVERTISEMENT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE AS A NEW ZONING DISTRICT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO ADVERTISING.

HOW DID WE MISS THIS? THE COMPLEXITY WAS WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A MODIFICATION TO THE TO THE CODE, BUT THEN WE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS LESS FLAW WITH THE APPLICATION.

BUT THEN WE NEVER FOUND OUT THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH ACTUALLY GETTING THE ZONING APPLICATION AS WELL BECAUSE THE PD APPLICATION ISN'T SUFFICIENT ENOUGH.

WE JUST REALIZED THIS OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DUE DILIGENCE, EXTRA CHECKING DURING THIS PROCESS WHERE I JUST FOUND OUT WE NEED TO DO THE ORDINANCE INSTEAD.

SO I APOLOGIZE.

IT IS IT IS GROWTH'S FAULT AND I WILL TAKE THAT ON US.

I APOLOGIZE. AND WHEN YOU SAID WE JUST FOUND OUT, YOU MEAN LIKE RIGHT NOW I JUST HAD DOUBLE CHECKED IT BECAUSE I HAD NOTICE IT WAS A RESOLUTION AND I THOUGHT IT CAME THROUGH AS AN ORDINANCE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOTION.

WHAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED, MADAM ATTORNEY? WE'RE ON A TABLE. BUT HOW LONG DO YOU NEED TO GET THIS RE ADVERTISED? OH, WE CAN READ. I WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK BY TOMORROW.

I CAN HAVE A DEFINITE ANSWER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT TO SEE IF WE CAN ADVERTISE IT FOR THE OCTOBER 5TH MEETING.

IF IT CAN'T GO, THEN THEN WOULD HAVE TO GO IN THE NOVEMBER ONE.

EITHER WAY, WE'LL FOLLOW IT UP WITH AS CLOSE TO THE TIMELINE AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR SORRY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO WE WILL TAKE AS FAST AS WE CAN.

I KNOW YOU'D RATHER TODAY, BUT WE CAN'T.

OKAY. YEAH.

SINCE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO STATE A DATE AND FIND OUT THAT JAKE IS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN BREVARD DOING SOMETHING ELSE.

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THE DATE IS ACTUALLY OCTOBER SIX, OCTOBER 6TH.

THAT'S THURSDAY. I JUST NEED TO VERIFY THAT MAILERS CAN GO OUT TOMORROW MORNING WITH STAFF.

I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE TONIGHT, BUT IF WE CAN MAKE IT OUT BY TOMORROW MORNING, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE MAKING IT OUT BY TOMORROW.

AND IT'LL BE OUR INITIATIVE.

WE HAVE TO WHEN WE TABLE THIS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO IT FOR A SPECIFIC SO CERTAIN.

I THINK WHAT IT HONESTLY ORIGINALLY HAPPENED, BY THE WAY, IS WE DID ACKNOWLEDGE THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO, BUT WHAT NEVER DID HAPPEN WAS THE RE ADVERTISEMENT PROCESS.

WE CONTINUED IT, WE KEPT CONTINUING IT, EVEN THOUGH WE THOUGHT WE HAD CHANGED THE RIGHT PROCESS.

SO IT'S BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO ADVERTISEMENT WISE AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

WE MADE A MISSTEP, TRYING TO BE AS EXPEDITIOUS.

IT HAS CAUGHT US BACKWARDS, SO NOW WE HAVE TO RECTIFY THIS INTERNALLY AS BEST WE CAN FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO THE QUESTION STILL STANDS.

CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? NOT TONIGHT, NO.

I REALIZE THAT. WE REALIZED THAT.

WE GOT THAT. YEAH. SORRY.

CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FOR OCTOBER SIX? BECAUSE WE NEED TO. WE NEED A DATE CERTAIN.

THAT WILL BE OUR GOAL, SIR.

AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE OCTOBER SIX DATE.

IF I HAD. THE APPLICANT IS GOOD WITH THAT.

OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THEN IF WE NEED TO PIVOT BECAUSE OF ADVERTISING DEADLINES OR ANY OTHER ISSUE, WE WILL WE WILL DO SO.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU GO WITH THAT.

OH, YES. I JUST MAKE A SURE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR DATES INTERNALLY ARE.

CERTAINLY A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER BELIEVES WITH THE TIME THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT THEIR CUTOFFS THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS RE ADVERTISED IN TIME FOR THE OCTOBER SIX.

WHICH IS PROBABLY CORRECT CONSIDERING A LOT OF THE THINGS FOR THE OCTOBER SIX WE HAVE PROBABLY WE MAY NOT HAVE ALREADY DONE ADVERTISING FOR OR THE ADVERTISING MAY BE GOING OUT SHORTLY. SO THAT SHOULD BE IT'S CERTAINLY DEPENDING UPON WHAT THEY DO INTERNALLY.

A LOT OF THESE ADVERTISEMENTS, OF COURSE, I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH BECAUSE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WHERE THE CITY IS SUING OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE TIME.

AND CERTAINLY IF WE CAN JUST GET WITH FLORIDA TODAY, WHO WE ADVERTISE WITH, THAT THIS SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.

IT HAS NOT GONE TO THE PAPERS YET.

THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD NEED TO GO OUT SO FAR WOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC NOTICES.

THAT IS THE PARAMETER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, LEGAL ADS THAT CAN STILL GO OUT.

THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.

IT WAS PUBLIC NOTICES.

CORRECT. AND WE CAN MEET THAT TIMELINE.

WE BELIEVE WE CAN BY TOMORROW MORNING AS LONG AS WE SUBMITTED THAT.

OKAY. SO, MR. WISE, THANK YOU FOR YIELDING AND COMING BACK IN OCTOBER.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND OUTSTANDING JOB, MADAM ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU, DR.

JAY, FOR THE EXPLANATION.

YES, I DID NOTICE THAT THIS WENT BEFORE PLANNING.

FIRST OF ALL, DR.

ANDERSON, THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING RESPONSIBILITY HERE.

I RESPECT THAT 100%.

THANK YOU. I DID NOTICE THAT THIS WENT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO DOES THIS HAVE TO GO BEFORE PLANNING IS GOING AGAIN? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, FOR THE OCTOBER 6TH DATE.

SO THEN IT WOULD FOLLOW UP ON THE THURSDAY FOLLOWING THAT FOR CITY COUNCIL, IF WE CAN POSSIBLY GET IT THERE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO FOR AN ORDINANCE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO PLANNING ZONING FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

IF IT GOES TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY BECAUSE COUNCIL CAN MAKE CHANGES, PLANNING AND ZONING HAS ALREADY CONSIDERED THIS.

OKAY. WHAT THEY HAVEN'T CONSIDERED IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD WHETHER IT WAS A RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE, YOU TAKE THE SAME THING THEY CONSIDER IT ONCE THEY'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED IT AND APPROVED IT, YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE CHANGING IT IS MAKING SURE THAT IT'S AN ORDINANCE.

IT'S GOING TO SAVE THE ZONING AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO READINGS.

SO, NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL'S GOING TO HAVE IT TWICE.

OK DOES SATISFY YOUR QUESTION? YES. COUNCILMAN I'M GLAD WE CLARIFIED THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE GONE BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND WHEN IT DIDN'T HAVE TO.

OH, THANK YOU. OKAY.

WE GOOD? I NEED A MOTION.

DEPUTY MAYOR MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE OCTOBER SIX COUNCIL MEETING AT 6 P.M..

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AGAIN, I'LL SEE YOU OCTOBER SIX, SIR.

THANK YOU. NOW ONE ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ORTON IS 2022 DASH 87, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE ROAD RIGHT OF WAY KNOWN AS MAPLEWOOD STREET, LYING SOUTHEASTERLY OF THIS SOUTHERLY RIGHT OF WAY, OR POSPISIL AVENUE, AND ADJOINING THE EASTERLY RIGHT OF WAY OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY, AS RECORDED IN THE PLOT BOOK TO PAGE THREE OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE FINAL HEARING OR READING FOR THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF MAPLEWOOD THAT IS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MARINA PROPERTY THAT THE CITY SOLD

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THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IN NOT. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION.

MOTION APPROVED. VAUGHN IS 2020 287 FINAL READING SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW AN ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ORDINANCE 2020 TO DASH 91.

ORDNANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

MEETING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM LEE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSING DISTRICT TO OUR MX 15, SINGLE TWO AND MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO DOROTHY FIELDS AVENUE IN THE VICINITY WEST OF NORTH VIEW STREET, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MISS SMITH, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MIGUEL RONALDO'S NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT 2295 SOUTH HIGH OAC ORLANDO 32835.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A AS WE HAD DISCUSSED LAST LAST MEETING A AN ANNEXATION TO OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE INTEND TO USE THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL FOR TRAFFIC AND STORMWATER RETENTION FOR THE OUR MASTER PROJECT.

WE HAD WORKED WITH STAFF ALREADY AND RECEIVED FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION IN THIS BOARD AS WELL AS THEIR THEIR FIRST VOTE WAS FAVORABLE AS WELL.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

YOU, SIR. THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR STORM WATER, RIGHT? YES. STORM WATER AND TRAFFIC.

THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE A WETLANDS WHERE THE WATER IS GOING TO FLOW TO OR.

IN ITS CENTER.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT IS ST JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT EASEMENT.

WHERE THAT ACTUALLY BISECTS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND COMES THROUGH THE FIRST DISCUSSION WITH ST JOHN'S WAS IS TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT RETENTION SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY HOLDS ALL OUR WATER FIRST AND FOREMOST.

THEN IF NEED BE DISCHARGE INTO.

THESE ARE THE NEXT PHASES OF THE DESIGN THAT THAT WILL COME AFTER AFTER APPROVAL.

AND THEN STARTS ARE FULL ENGINEERING.

SO THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED PROJECT FOR WATER RETENTION FOR THE PROJECT.

EXACTLY. AND THAT WAS ALSO A GOOD BUFFER FOR EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

WE'RE NOT USING THE PROPERTY FOR ADDITIONAL DENSITY OR RESIDENTIAL UNITS OR ANY OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO YOU COULD SAY IT'S STORM WATER, TRAFFIC, LANDSCAPE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

OH. I COULDN'T SEE.

MADAM SHERMAN. ANY COMMENTS? NOTHING FURTHER. THANKING DEPUTY MAYOR SPEAKER MR. BILL BATTEN. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST DURING ORDINANCE RIED 2020 290, WHICH IS ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I ASKED, WHERE DO YOU WANT THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO BE? THAT WAS THE SPECIFIC QUESTION I ASKED.

IT'S IN THE ROBERT CARLIN AREA.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I ASKED, WHERE DO YOU WANT IT TO BE? AND I COULDN'T GET A REAL ANSWER.

I SAID, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE COMP PLAN COMES IN.

BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE VOTES RIGHT NOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT SAYS THIS IS OF THE LITTLE MAP THAT YOU JUST SHOWED, ONE OF THOSE LITTLE RED DOTS.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LITTLE RED DOTS IT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED FOR YOUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

AND RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

SO YOU'RE JUST TAKING ONE LITTLE BITE OUT AND SAYING, YEAH, BUT WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE AREN'T GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE ON IT.

BUT YOU STILL LOST THAT INDUSTRIAL.

A SQUARE. SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO ONE MORE TIME.

SINCE I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER LAST TIME FOR ORDINANCE 2020 291, I'M ASKING, SO WHERE DO YOU WANT THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA TO BE THAT'S IN THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA? AND I HAVE ONE MORE REQUEST.

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IF WE COULD POSSIBLY SHOW THAT ON ON THE SCREEN WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE THINGS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE DON'T KNOW. THEY SEE JUST WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA AND DON'T SEE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO GET THOSE MAPS UP ON THE SCREEN WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.

I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.

MADAM SHERMAN, IF WE COULD CONSIDER THAT.

YOU SORT OF YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP BEFORE AS WELL.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

OH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO REBUT, SIR? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 291 FINAL READING.

SECOND, WE HAD A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

DEPUTY MAYOR JUST TO ANSWER, BUT I'LL MISS THE BATON BECAUSE I SAID IT LAST TIME AS WELL.

STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT HAVE DEFINITELY LOOKED AT FOR INDUSTRIAL THE COMPOUND AREA BEING A PRIME AREA.

I SAID THE LAST TIME AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

AND REGARDING THIS PIECE, YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT MULTIFAMILY, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IN THE CITY.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.

AND SO ENFORCER, YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS? NOW, JUST THE QUESTION I ASKED THE APPLICANT.

YOU KNOW, STORMWATER IS IS IMPORTANT.

I'VE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, THOUGH.

NO, NO ACTION. I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.

COPY THAT. SORRY. I'M SORRY.

I'M JUST MAKING THE STATEMENT. JUST WHAT? I ASKED MY STATEMENT.

I JUST WANT THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND, YOU KNOW, STORMWATER IS IMPORTANT AND THEY'RE MAKING AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE.

SO THAT'S IT, SIR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL CNN? I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE VOTE.

I GOT A MOTION. MY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED.

MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALL IN FAVOR.

I THOSE OPPOSE.

HEY. HEY. PASSES 3 TO 2.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

AND, MISS SMITH, GO AHEAD AND READ THE CAPTION AND THEN I'LL JUST MAKE SOME COMMENTS HERE.

YES, SIR. RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 42.

YES. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE FOR STORAGE OF LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, CHEMICALS AND SIMILAR PRODUCTS IN HIGH, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO ROWENA DRIVE, IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF ROBERT JAY COLLIN BOULEVARD AND EAST OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN GRANTED THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDED FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MADAM SMITH, I WANTED TO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I WANT TO REMIND COUNSEL THAT LAST LAST MEETING, WE HAD AN EPISODE WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR THE REBUTTAL.

AND GOD BLESS THIS YOUNG LADY.

I THINK BECAUSE SHE WAS HERE, HER LIFE WAS SPARED.

AND I THANK GOD THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS REACTED REALLY QUICKLY.

SO I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND OUR BEST WISHES IS FOR FOR THE ATTORNEY.

I WANT TO EXTEND THE LOVE OF COUNSEL TOWARDS THAT FAMILY, BECAUSE IT WAS A DIFFICULT TIME FOR HER AND FOR ALL OF US TO WITNESS THAT THAT MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE WAY WE LEFT IT WAS THIS IS WE'RE AT THE REBUTTAL PHASE.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCLUDING MADAM ATTORNEY.

ALL THE INFORMATION FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING IS PART OF THE RECORD.

IS THAT? YES, SIR.

AND IT ALL AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, COUNCIL DID PROVIDE A COPY OF THE OF A PRESENTATION THAT HE'S GOING TO USE WITHIN HIS REBUTTAL.

AND EACH OF COUNCIL HAS A COPY OF IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

CARRY ON, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SAM MILLER.

I'M FROM THE ACKERMAN LAW FIRM AT 420 SOUTH ORANGE AVENUE.

ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS.

MS.. BONIFAY, MY COLLEAGUE IS PROGRESSING, GETTING BETTER EACH DAY.

NOT THERE YET, BUT GETTING BETTER.

AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE KIND WORDS, AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND FINISH THIS OUT AND DO THIS REBUTTAL.

WE ARE HERE FOR THE REBUTTAL WITH RESPECT TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR FAR CHEMICAL.

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THIS IS A VOTE AND THE FOCUS HERE IS A VOTE ON SAFETY.

WHAT FARR IS LOOKING TO DO HERE IS NOT TO INCREASE ANY CHEMICAL STORAGE.

INSTEAD, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS LOOKING TO MOVE CHEMICALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY STORED INTO AN INSIDE A BUILDING AND FURTHER AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

THAT BUILDING WHERE WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE THE CHEMICAL STORED WILL HAVE A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

AND THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE, A FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE RESPONDING TO AN EXTINGUISHED FIRE, NOT AN ACTIVE ONE.

THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IN FACT, IS THE NEXT STEP.

FA IS TAKING IN ITS CONTINUOUS PROGRESS TOWARDS A MORE SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND A MORE SAFE FACILITY.

SIMPLY PUT, THIS IS A VOTE FOR A SAFER COMMUNITY.

I DO WANT TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF RESPONSES TO THE ARGUMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY OUR NEIGHBOR, THE MLF ENTITY.

AND THIS IS ON PAGE THREE OF THE HANDOUT.

DURING THE LAST HEARING.

AND ADMITTEDLY I WAS NOT HERE, BUT I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE VIDEO.

THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT EVENTS THAT HAD OCCURRED.

THERE WAS A DEATH THAT OCCURRED 14 YEARS AGO.

THERE WERE OTHER INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED TEN PLUS YEARS AGO.

THERE WAS A LIST GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL OF CERTAIN OTHER.

FINDINGS OR ORDERS.

AND I RECALL FROM THAT LIST THIS WAS 1990 THIS OR 1990 THAT.

OUR FOCUS HERE WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AGAIN, IS TO CREATE A MORE SAFE FACILITY.

WE'RE NOT STORING MORE CHEMICALS OR WE'RE DOING THEM WITH THEM IS PUTTING THEM INTO A MORE SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

THE FOCUS OF FAR IS WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHERE WE'RE GOING INTO THE FUTURE.

THAT'S OUR FOCUS.

I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS SOME FACTS THAT WERE STATED WITH RESPECT TO AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020.

THERE WAS A FIRE, AND THE STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE BY OUR NEIGHBOR MEF HERE WAS THAT IT WAS HAZARDOUS SOIL, HAZARDOUS WASTE IN THE SOIL. THAT'S SIMPLY INCORRECT.

IN FACT, THE FDP CONDUCTED ITS SAMPLING AND FOUND THAT THAT MATERIAL WAS, IN FACT, NOT HAZARDOUS.

FURTHERMORE, THERE IS ANOTHER STATEMENT MADE WITH RESPECT TO A CONSENT ORDER THAT WAS ENTERED WITH THE FDP AND HOW MEMBERS OF FAR AND THE FAR COMPANY HAD AGREED WITH ALL OF THOSE FINDINGS.

THAT, TOO, IS SIMPLY INCORRECT.

IN FACT, PARAGRAPH TEN OF THAT CONSENT ORDER, WHICH I'LL READ NOW, THIS CONSENT ORDER SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED AN ADMISSION BY RESPONDENT THAT'S FAR OF ANY VIOLATION OR LIABILITY UNDER ANY APPLICABLE LAW.

I'M SORRY. ANY APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS, OR UNDER ANY FEDERAL OR STATE COMMON LAW.

SO THE STATEMENT WITH RESPECT TO FAR SOMEHOW ADMITTING THAT IT HAD ENGAGED IN WRONGDOING WAS SIMPLY INCORRECT.

ADDITIONALLY, MLF STATEMENTS ON SEPTEMBER ONE ARE DIRECTLY CONTRARY TO STATEMENTS THAT MLF CAME HERE MADE IN OCTOBER 2020, JUST A MONTH AFTER THAT SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020, INCIDENT.

YOU KNOW, WIFE CAME HERE.

EARLIER THIS MONTH TALKING ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS AND HOW IRRESPONSIBLE AND HOW UNSAFE FAR AND FAR HIS OPERATIONS WERE.

BUT JUST BACK IN OCTOBER 2020, WHEN MLF WAS COMING HERE TO ASK THIS COUNCIL TO APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT, WHAT MDF SAID AND I'VE GOT THE QUOTES RIGHT THERE ON ON PAGE THREE OF THE HANDOUT WAS THAT WITH RESPECT TO IN ITS OPERATIONS, NO ISSUES AT ALL.

THEY SAID, LET'S LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE LOCATION TO SHOW YOU WHY WE CAN ALL COHABITATE AND THAT THERE'S NO ISSUE.

SO AT THAT TIME, THEY VIEWED FAR AS SAFE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE MONTH AFTER THAT SEPTEMBER 8TH INCIDENT.

BUT NOW THEY COME HERE IN AN EFFORT TO STOP WHAT IS CLEARLY AN EFFORT TO CREATE A MORE SAFE FACILITY AND OPPOSE IT.

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AGAIN, WE VIEW THEM AS PRIMARILY THINGS THAT OCCURRED FAR IN THE DISTANT PAST AND UNDER PRIOR OWNERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT.

AND THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN THIS RESPECT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR FAR.

AND THIS GETS TO ON PAGE FOUR OF THE HANDOUT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE.

BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AN ENTITY NAMED KPS HAS PURCHASED FOREIGN PURCHASED FOREIGN.

OCTOBER 2018.

KPS ALSO PURCHASED ANOTHER ENTITY CALLED GEO, WHICH IS ABOUT TEN TIMES THE SIZE OF PHARR.

AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE HERE VERY RECENTLY IS INTEGRATED THE ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH AND SAFETY.

I ASSETS AND ABILITIES OF BOTH OF THOSE COMPANIES TOGETHER TO CREATE A MORE SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

IT IS A PRIMARY FOCUS OF KPS GENERALLY AND I'VE GOT A LIST OF THE LOCATIONS WITH ALL OF ITS FACILITIES THERE.

THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THE SAFETY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, TO THE SAFETY OF THEIR FACILITIES AND THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY OPERATE AND EXIST.

THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS MADE ABOUT THAT SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020 INCIDENT.

AND LET ME JUST RUN DOWN.

SO I DO HAVE AN EYE ON THE CLOCK AS WELL.

YES, THERE WAS A FIRE THAT OCCURRED THAT DAY AND THANKFULLY THERE WAS IMMEDIATE PROMPT RESPONSE BY PALM BAY AND MELBOURNE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND BREVARD COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

FAR IN ITS CONTRACTORS IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY DEALT WITH THE CLEANUP OF THE SITUATION BECAUSE THERE WAS WATER THAT HAD TO BE DEALT WITH.

THERE WAS SOME SOIL CONTAMINATION THAT HAD TO BE DEALT WITH.

AND OF COURSE, THAT ALL HAD TO BE SEGREGATED.

SO THE FTP COULD LATER EXAMINE IT, WHICH AGAIN THE FTP FOUND THAT IT WAS NOT HAZARDOUS.

AND IN FACT WITH FTP GUIDANCE AND APPROVAL AND THE DETERMINATION IN WHAT'S CALLED AN AMENDED CONTAINED OUT ORDER DATED FEBRUARY OF OF 2021, THAT DETERMINATION THAT IT WAS NOT HAZARDOUS SOIL WAS CONFIRMED.

MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL DID ASK MEMBERS OF FA.

AND BY THE WAY, I DO HAVE SOME FA REPRESENTATIVES JUST IN CASE THE COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

WHAT STEPS DID YOU TAKE AFTER THAT SEPTEMBER 8TH INCIDENT? AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE ON PAGE FIVE, WE'VE LISTED OUT SOME OF THE THE SPECIFIC CONCRETE STEPS THAT WERE TAKEN.

IN ADDITION WITH THAT, FA HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH FTP TO REMEDIATE ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE NEEDED TO BE REMEDIATED.

AND THAT'S BEEN DONE IN PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE FURTHER ON FA'S COMMITMENT TO SAFETY, BECAUSE THERE WAS THERE WERE SOME STATEMENTS MADE THAT FA WAS NOT COMMITTED TO SAFETY AND WAS RUNNING AN UNSAFE LOCATION.

AND THAT'S JUST SIMPLY FALSE.

HERE RECENTLY FAR HAS RECRUITED A NEW PLANT MANAGER FROM DUPONT WHO HAS EXTENSIVE SAFETY EXPERIENCE.

HE'S HERE WITH US NOW.

THEY'VE RECRUITED A NEW SAFETY MANAGER.

THEY'VE REVALIDATED MAJOR PROCESS HAZARD ANALYSIS, WHICH IS A PROCESS BY WHICH YOU LOOK AT POTENTIAL HAZARDS AND HOW YOU DEAL WITH THEM.

THEY'VE TAKEN MANY CONCRETE STEPS AND I'VE OUTLINED SOME OF THOSE THERE ON PAGE SIX.

THE COMMITMENT NOT NECESSARILY DEDICATED AS SEPTEMBER 8TH INCIDENT OF WHAT OCCURRED BUT BUT JUST GENERALLY ON PAGE SEVEN I OUTLINED WHAT'S BEEN DONE 20, 20, 2021 AND 2022 TO CREATE A MORE SAFE FACILITY.

AND A BUNCH OF THOSE CONCRETE STEPS, AGAIN, ARE OUTLINED HERE.

AND WHY IS FAR DOING THIS? BECAUSE IT HAS A COMMITMENT TO SAFETY AND WHY DOES FAR WANT TO TAKE THE CHEMICALS IT'S STORING AND PUT THEM IN A BUILDING THAT HAS A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM TO CREATE A MORE SAFE ENVIRONMENT? IN ADDITION TO THESE CONCRETE STEPS, FARR REGULARLY MEETS WITH MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY COME OUT AND THEY TOUR AND THEY DO INSPECTIONS.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY INCIDENTS, PHARR WORKS TO IMMEDIATELY RECTIFY THOSE.

THEY ALSO HAVE A CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EPA, AND THAT'S WHY THE CLEANUP HAS OCCURRED AND THAT'S WHY FTP, FDA IS HAPPY WITH WHERE THEY ARE.

AND UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. WE'LL WRAP UP RIGHT THERE.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL. BUT THEN FAST.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER HAS A QUESTION.

I'M. GIVEN THE HISTORY OF.

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AM I CORRECT? YOU STATED.

WHEN THE CONSENT ORDER.

IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU READ A STATEMENT.

CAN YOU REREAD THAT STATEMENT? SURE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.

GOT CS ON ON HIS PRESENTATION.

BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE.

THE CONSENT ORDER THAT CAME FROM FDA.

SURE. AND THIS IS ON PAGE FOUR OF THAT CONSENT ORDER.

AND IT SAYS THIS CONSENT ORDER SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED AN ADMISSION BY RESPONDENT OF ANY VIOLATION OF OR LIABILITY UNDER ANY APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS OR UNDER ANY FEDERAL OR STATE COMMON LAW.

SO. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY DID YOU WHY DID THEY ISSUE A CONSENT ORDER? THEN WHAT? WHAT WAS IN THAT CONSENT ORDER REFERENCED TO FOB THAT YOU NEEDED TO IMPROVE OR CLEAN UP OR FOLLOW STEPS TO GET THE CLEANUP DONE? SO THIS CAME AFTER THAT SEPTEMBER 8TH INCIDENT.

RIGHT. AND THIS WAS DONE AS PART OF THIS AND HAD LAID OUT STEPS OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO GET THE CLEANUP DONE.

WELL. IF THEY LAID OUT STEPS, THEN SOMETHING YOU WASN'T DOING CORRECTLY, AM I CORRECT? NOT NECESSARILY.

THAT'S WHAT EXPLAINED TO ME.

SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE DOING THINGS CORRECTLY AND SOMETIMES ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

BUT WHAT THE FOCUS WAS ON IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO GET THIS CLEANED UP? AND THAT'S WHY THE CONSENT ORDER WAS ENTERED.

IT WAS NOT FOCUSED ON WHAT CAN WE DO TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN.

OH, BUT THAT'S ALSO THAT'S ALSO AN AI THAT'S LISTED IN OUR PRESENTATION IS WE'VE TAKEN CONCRETE STEPS TO IMPROVE OUR PROCESSES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE PROPER TRAINING, WE'VE GOT THE PROPER EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING STEPS LIKE MOVING CHEMICALS INTO THIS BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

ALL OF THESE STEPS ARE TOWARDS CREATING A MORE SAFE FACILITY.

SO THE CHEMICALS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO STORE IT OUTSIDE BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS TO BE OUTSIDE.

AM I CORRECT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WORD I WOULD USE, BUT I HAVE MR..

I HAVE MR. GRAHAM HERE WHO CAN WHO CAN SPEAK TO THAT? BUT THAT'S NOT THE WORD.

IT IS ALLOWED BACK UP.

THE MANNER IN WHICH WE'RE STORING THE CHEMICALS NOW IS ABSOLUTELY ALLOWED.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO.

GET TO A SAFER PLACE THAN WHERE WE ARE NOW.

BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. GRAHAM, WHO HEADS UP THAT PART.

YEAH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

PLEASE EDUCATE ME, BECAUSE I'M GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THAT CONSENT ORDER AND WHY YOU'RE MOVING CHEMICALS.

THAT IS OKAY RIGHT NOW TO BE OUTSIDE.

INSIDE. IT IS OK.

BUT THE. BARR AND THE CHEMICAL INDUSTRY IN GENERAL WANTS TO DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY DO TO PUT LAYERS OF PROTECTION, MORE LAYERS OF PROTECTION IN PLACE.

WE HAVE PROTECTION THERE.

WE HAVE IT STORED IN A WAY THAT IS COMPLETELY LEGAL AND COMPLETELY.

AGREED TO BY OSHA AND BY EPA.

WE WANT TO PUT ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION THERE, WHICH IS THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

WE PUT IT IN THERE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS.

THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM ACTIVATES IT, PUTS IT OUT IMMEDIATELY.

ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

THOSE WERE OUTSIDE.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

NOW, IF THAT HAPPENED IN THOSE WERE INSIDE IN THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM WOULD BE PUT OUT IMMEDIATELY.

I. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT.

I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHICH THE STATEMENT THAT IS SAFE OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW, THAT FTP SAID YOU NEED TO BE INSIDE A BUILDING.

NO, THEY DIDN'T. WELL, WHO'S MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION? WE ARE. WE WANT TO PUT ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION IN PLACE.

WHEN YOU SIT THERE AND YOU PUT TOGETHER AND DO A PROCESS HAZARD ANALYSIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

PUT LAYERS OF PROTECTION SO THAT IF ONE LAYER FAILS, ANOTHER ONE IS THERE TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING AS BAD.

SO WE WANT TO PUT ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION IN PLACE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

AND THIS WILL AND THE CHEMICAL THAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN THERE IS WHAT AND THIS THIS STORAGE PROTECTION.

IT IS BASICALLY OUR FLAMMABLE AND COMBUSTIBLE MATERIALS THAT WE STORE ON SITE NOW.

[03:50:07]

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. NOT TO FAR, BUT TO STAFF, SO.

OKAY, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU BET. YES, SIR.

COUNCILMAN FELIX BRIEF THE INCIDENT OF SEPTEMBER 2020 THAT HAPPENED UNDER THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.

OR WAS IT. DID YOU GUYS CHANGE? WE LEADERSHIP.

WE CHANGED THE LEADERSHIP AFTERWARDS AFTER THE CENSUS.

THAT CORRECT? I'VE BEEN THERE.

JUST THE.

WAS IT PART OF.

THE EFFORT.

OF GETTING THINGS BETTER OR MAKING CHANGE OR THE HARD PART OF THE EFFORT OF MAKING CHANGE IN THE FACILITY AND IN THE CULTURE, SAFETY, CULTURE, YES, THIS NEW COMPANY.

BUT THE EXISTING OUT OR BROUGHT NEW MANAGEMENT UNDER THE SAME SAME COMPANY.

WE BOUGHT THE COMPANY IN THE END OF 2018.

EMERGED IT WITH THE PART OF IT WITH GEO IN 2019, TOO, BEGINNING IN 2020.

WE RECOGNIZED WE WANTED TO UPGRADE AND ENHANCE THE SAFETY CULTURE THERE AFTER THE INCIDENT, RECRUITED IN A PLANT MANAGER THAT HAD EXTENSIVE SAFETY EXPERIENCE.

WE RECRUITED A NEW MANAGER.

THOSE THINGS WERE ALL DRIVE IMPROVEMENT IN THE CULTURE, ENHANCE THE CULTURE OF THE COMPANY.

THANK YOU. YOU.

YES. TO STAFF, SIR.

SORRY. I'M MS. SHERMAN. MAY I BRING UP THE FIRE CHIEF AND ASK FOR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR? FOR FIRE CHIEF LESLIE HOOG.

CAN YOU EVEN MISS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL? WHAT CAN I ANSWER FOR YOU? THANKS, CHIEF. SO I'M JUST READING THROUGH THIS.

THIS THING HERE. RECENT INSPECTIONS WITH MINOR FINDINGS WERE PROPERLY RESOLVED.

SO DO YOU HAVE A CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WITH FAR? ACTUALLY, 29 YEARS AGO WAS THE FIRST TIME I MET THEM AND I WAS IN A LEVEL A.

SO, YES, I WAS THERE FOR THAT FIRST INCIDENT AND I WAS ALSO THERE FOR THE LAST ONE.

SO YOU REGULARLY GET TOURS OF THE FACILITY THERE AT THE APARTMENT, I SHOULD SAY? YES, I DO.

AND AND THE DEPARTMENT DOES PROVIDE INPUT OR ADVICE ON UPCOMING PROJECTS? YES, ACTUALLY, WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE RUNNING TO A PLANT LIKE THAT.

THIS IS A NEW TEAM.

THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE TO WHAT WE'VE MADE AS RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THE PLANT, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S THE CLEANEST I'VE EVER BEEN IN.

THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.

HOLD ON. I'VE GOT FAST, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

JUST ONE QUESTION, DEPUTY MAYOR.

JUST ONE QUESTION IN YOUR OPINION, CHIEF, AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, BECAUSE I WAS GONNA CALL HER UP TO.

YOUR NAME WAS MENTIONED? WELL, NOT YOUR NAME, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

FIRE INSPECTOR WAS MENTIONED BY BOTH PARTIES MULTIPLE TIMES IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE.

WOULD YOU WANT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD? ACTUALLY, YES, I WOULD, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR IT.

WHEN I TOURED THE PLANT LAST TIME THERE, CHEMICALS ARE STORED OUTSIDE.

IT'S STORED CORRECTLY.

WE ASKED THEM TO ENHANCE IT SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE NATIONAL NEWS AGAIN.

SO THEY WERE DRUMS THAT WERE SITTING OUT THERE, STORED PROPERLY.

THEY REALLY ARE. BUT TO ENHANCE IT, TO MAKE IT EVEN SAFER, THAT MAKES US HAPPIER AND MAKES IT A BETTER WORKING PARTNERSHIP.

SO THE IDEA IS THAT THEY REZONE THIS BUILDING, THEY PUT A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IN.

SO IF WE HAVE AN INCIDENT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE LARGE SCALE.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING SMALLER, BUT THAT SYSTEM CAN HANDLE IT.

AND IT'S ALSO CONTAINED AT THAT POINT INSTEAD OF BEING OUT IN THE OPEN, BECAUSE HONESTLY YOU CAN TAKE DRUMS WITH WASTE DIESEL FUEL OUT OF THE AT THE PORT.

I'VE RUN THOSE AND WITH THE TEMPERATURES THAT WE GET, THEY WILL ROCKET THROUGH THE AIR.

SO IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A CHEMICAL.

SO KNOWING THAT THESE ARE SOME OF OUR BENIGN CHEMICALS THAT THEY USE IN THE PROCESS BEING EXPOSED TO EXTREME TEMPERATURES, WE HAVE THE BEST PLACE FOR THEM TO BE IS OUT OF THE SUN IN A BUILDING WITH A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

SO SO FOLLOW UP, THEY SAID THERE WAS NO PUSH BY DPI OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

IF ANYTHING WAS MORE OF A PUSH BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAYING, HEY, TAKE MORE PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES.

WELL, THEY'VE OFFERED IT. WE WE WALKED THROUGH THE PLANT AND EVEN MS..

SHERMAN WAS WITH US. WE WALKED THROUGH THE PLANT SEVERAL TIMES, AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE RESPONSIVE TO US.

THIS IS THE MOST I'VE EVER HAD WHERE I ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE SUSPICION BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IN 1993, IT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION.

[03:55:09]

ACTUALLY, WHAT IT WAS IS A MECHANICAL FAILURE THAT CAUSED THE CHEMICALS TO OVERHEAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

A FAILURE LIKE A COOLING SYSTEM.

OF THOSE SAME CHEMICALS IN THE CONTAINER.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THE CONTAINER HAD A COOLING SYSTEM ON IT.

THE SYSTEM FAILED.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE IT'S I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK AT A TERM FOR THE CHEMICAL.

IT'S LIKE A RUNAWAY POLYMERIZATION.

IT EXPANDED AND IT EXPLODED BY THE TIME WE WERE ACTUALLY ON SCENE.

MOST OF THE CHEMICALS AND YOU CALL THEM CHEMICALS, THAT'S A GENERIC TERM.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, THEY WERE MOSTLY CONSUMED.

THEY HAD BURNED UP AND THERE WAS NO INJURIES.

NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.

THANK YOU. OH, COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. YEAH. YES, SIR.

I THINK YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS.

THIS ONE. WHAT'S THE PROBABILITY OF THIS HAPPENING AGAIN? AND THE CONDITION THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH NOW, I SEE IT REDUCED GREATLY, IF NOT BY 80 TO 85%.

EVERY CHEMICAL PLANT CAN HAVE AN ACCIDENT.

EVERY REFINERY CAN HAVE AN ACCIDENT.

SO I CAN'T INSURE THAT THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING WITH MANAGEMENT AT FA RESEARCH.

THEY'VE EVEN PUT THEIR WORKERS THROUGH A HAZARD UPPER CLASS.

IT HAS TO DO WITH CLEANUP WHEN THEY HAVE AN INCIDENT.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A CLASS OFFER TO US AND I CALLED OVER AND SAID, HEY, I'VE GOT A CLASS FOR YOU.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY COLLABORATING QUITE A BIT TO KEEP IT AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE IN YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE. BY A TEAM THAT COULD DEAL WITH HAZMAT INCIDENTS LIKE THIS.

AND THAT'S WHAT STATION SEVEN'S GOING TO BE.

RIGHT NOW, I'M THE ONLY HAZMAT TECHNICIAN IN THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, AND I'VE HUNG MY LEVEL UP.

WELL, RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A HAZMAT TEAM.

FIGHTER TEAM. LIKE, SAY SOMETHING.

SHE IS THE TEAM. ACTUALLY, BREVARD COUNTY FIRE RESCUE RUNS HAZMAT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY THERE.

THEY'VE GOT THE WHOLE THEY'VE GOT THE MONITORS, THE MOBILE.

WE HAVE ONE.

NO, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN AIRPORT BY ORDINANCE.

IT'S IT'S BREVARD COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

AND THAT'S WHO I USED TO BE WITH.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM. APPRECIATE IT.

AND HE SPEAKER KHAN'S DEPUTY MAYOR.

THERE IS ONE. BUT SINCE WE'RE ON THE REBUTTAL PART.

SO. THEY FINISH THE REBUTTAL.

SPEAKER. WE'VE WE'RE BECAUSE WE'RE RESUMING WHERE WE LEFT OFF.

WE ALREADY HAVE ALREADY HAD THE SPEAKERS AS YOU WERE.

AS YOU WERE. SO.

THERE'S NO SPEAKING ON THIS.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE. BECAUSE WE'RE.

WE'RE ASSUMING. COPY THAT. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT, SO THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YES, SIR.

I DIDN'T THINK THEY DID.

YEAH. BEFORE REBUTTAL.

THE PUBLIC. I DON'T SPEAK, I BELIEVE I THINK THE PUBLIC DID SPEAK BEFORE REBUTTAL.

YEAH. DRISCOLL HEIGHTS.

POLK. YEAH. SCHOOL HEIGHTS.

FOLKS FROM DRISCOLL HEIGHTS.

YEAH, THEY DID SPEAK, THAT'S ALL.

WE ONLY HAD THE REBUTTAL OF THE PUBLIC SPEECH.

THAT THEN REBUTTAL IS LESS.

THAT IS CORRECT. I REMEMBER DRISCOLL HEIGHTS DID SPEAK SO I CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THIS TIME AND.

AND COUNSEL, I'LL JUST SAY A FEW COMMENTS AND I MAY BE I REMEMBER THIS THIS TIME, RIGHT? I REMEMBER THIS DAY AND AND I, I WAS REALLY CONCERNED.

NOW, THIS COUNCIL SINCE THEN, THIS COUNCIL SINCE THEN HAS APPROVED OTHER MULTI MULTIFAMILY ZONING OUT THERE. AND SO I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH WITH THIS.

AND THERE'S A FEW THINGS.

THAT PIQUED MY INTEREST WHEN THE ATTORNEY CAME OUT AND SAID, ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

THAT KIND OF LIKE PIQUED MY EARS.

YES, ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

NOW, IT MAY NOT BE THIS COUNSEL'S FAULT, BUT THIS COUNSEL NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY NO.

NOW, THE COUNCIL BEFORE US, THEY AUTHORIZE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THERE AS WELL.

NEAR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE A WHILE.

I DON'T AGREE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GREAT LEADER THAT SAID SOMETHING.

TO ME, OR HE SAID IT PUBLICLY MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS COMING UP.

[04:00:03]

IT SAYS, TRUST IS GOOD.

YOU ALWAYS SAID TRUST IS GOOD, BUT NOT THE TRUST IS BETTER.

AND I THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION NOT TO TRUST.

IS BETTER. I BELIEVE THAT ACCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN.

AND THAT WAS RESOUNDING WHEN I HEARD THEIR OWN ATTORNEY SAY THAT TO ME.

AND THAT'S IF AN ACCIDENT HAPPENS TODAY.

WHAT'S THE COST OF LIFE? WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S THE COST? IT'S ASTRONOMICAL.

JUST ONE LIFE, JUST ONE INJURY.

SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS COUNCIL.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE KQ DASH 35.

DASH 2022.

SECOND DISCUSSION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

MAYOR, I WAS ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH AS YOU, SIR, BUT WHAT TIPPED ME THE OTHER SIDE IS HEARING FROM OUR PROFESSIONALS, HEARING FROM OUR CHIEF WHO WHO WAS OPERATING DURING THE WHOLE TIME OF THIS FACILITY AND HEARING HER TAKE ON IT.

ON BEING MORE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE WITH THIS.

SO THAT'S BECAUSE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, I COULDN'T FIND MYSELF TO SUPPORT IT.

BUT AFTER HEARING FROM OUR CHIEF AND HEARING HER SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS WILL ASSIST HER DEPARTMENT MOVING FORWARD AND ASSIST THE CITY, THAT'S WHAT TIPPED ME OVER THE EDGE ON SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO ADD FOR THE RECORD.

ON WHY I MADE THE MOTION. SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

ALONGSIDE YOU, I THINK TO SOME EXTENT I AGREE.

BUT, MAYOR, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO KIND OF REPEAT YOUR YOUR YOUR THE PHRASE, BUT I'LL SAY SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

TRUST. BUT VERIFY.

TRUST. BUT VERIFY.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING.

WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT YEAH, THEY HAVE THEIR FAIR SHARE OF DOING THINGS THE WRONG WAY.

MADE A FEW MISTAKES, QUITE A FEW MISTAKES.

COSTLY. COULD HAVE BEEN BAD.

BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, IT'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE.

IT'S A COMPANY THAT ACKNOWLEDGED WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

THEY WANT TO FIX IT.

THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

HERE'S THE HERE'S THE CHALLENGE WE'RE FACING, MAYOR.

I THINK COUNCIL IS THAT THEY AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.

THEY THEY'RE HERE TO STAY UNLESS THE FDP.

WHAT A RED BIG RED STICKERS SAY.

HEY, YOU ALL CANNOT BE HERE.

YOU. WE GOING TO BE NEIGHBOR.

WE HAVE TO DEAL AND TREAT YOU GUYS AS BUSINESS PARTNERS AND HONOR YOU AND TREAT YOU JUST THE WAY WE TREAT ANY OTHER BUSINESSES. RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING TO NOT VOTE FOR THIS.

WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE CHANGE IT? WHAT DO WHAT STATEMENT ARE WE TRYING TO MAKE HERE? I DON'T GET IT. LET'S BE LOGICAL.

IT COMES DOWN TO LOGIC, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING BUSINESS.

DO WE WANT THEM TO CONTINUE BEING LESS SAFE OR DO WE WANT THEM TO BE SAFER? THOSE ARE THE EFFORT, THE MILLION DOLLARS THEY PUT IN THE CHANGE OF MANAGEMENT TO MEAN THAT'S GOOD FAITH THAT'S A COMPANY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.

IT'S BEEN A LOT OF MONEY. THEY BRING LAWYERS.

I'M SURE THEY CONTINUE.

THEY WANT TO SHOW US PROOF TO US THAT THEY WANTED THE RIGHT THING.

I WOULD URGE COUNSEL.

LET'S JUST GIVE THEM A PASS.

LET'S TRUST THEM, BUT VERIFY.

CONTINUE MAKING SURE.

KEEPING THAT RELATIONSHIP GOING.

THAT CHIEF, TO SOLIDIFY THAT RELATIONSHIP, CONTINUE VISITING.

I WANT TO GO VISIT NOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE SAFER TRYING TO BE SAFE.

BUT BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS WHERE I STAND AND LET'S BE LOGICAL ABOUT THIS.

LET'S GET ALL NOT GET ON EMOTION, GET IN THE WAY.

I THINK THAT'S A LOGICAL PATH TO GO.

JUST ALLOW THEM TO TO CONTINUE DOING BUSINESS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE. THEY'RE NOT GOING NOWHERE.

I RATHER THAN BEING SAFER OR MAKE EFFORT TO BE SAFER.

SO OBVIOUSLY I'M SUPPORTING IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH, I THINK COUNCILMAN FELIX SAID IT RIGHT.

I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN IN PALM BAY SINCE 1982.

THEY EMPLOY 40, 40 PALM BAY FOLKS.

THEY'VE HAD NO INCIDENTS IN THE PAST YEAR.

NO VIOLATIONS IN THE PAST YEAR.

AND JUST JUST TO QUOTE ON THE ACCENTS HAPPEN PART, I MEAN, EVERY FACILITY DOES HAVE ACCIDENTS.

NOW, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE KENNEDY SPACE CENTER.

I MEAN, APOLLO ONE AND CHALLENGER.

AND THE REAL LESSON IS, IS THEY'RE TRYING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR HERE TO THE TO THE REZONING THAT OCCURRED WITH THE MULTIFAMILY.

SO I SUPPORT THIS AS WELL.

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OKAY. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH, MAYOR, I WAS I WAS THINKING LIKE, YOU'RE NOT NOT SUPPORTING THIS, BUT THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION TO THE ATTORNEY, BECAUSE ABOUT THE CONSENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION WROTE IN AT THAT CONSENT, BUT TO ME, IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING.

I JUST DON'T PARTICULARLY AGREE WITH WHAT THEY WROTE.

BUT I DO SUPPORT THE SAFETY AND.

UM. WE DO NOTHING.

AND THE CHEMICALS IS STILL OUTSIDE.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU IF IT'S SAFE OUTSIDE OR IF IT'S SAFE INSIDE.

AND THE FIRE CHIEF SAYS, OKAY, WHAT IT IS, BUT THEY WANT TO MOVE IT INSIDE TO BE EVEN MORE SAFER.

I AGREE WITH THAT PART TO MAKE IT MORE SAFER.

IF WE DON'T LET HIM MOVE INSIDE, THE CHEMICALS ARE STILL OUTSIDE.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEY HAVE AN EXPLOSION.

THEY CAN'T SAY. WE TOLD YOU.

THEY COULD SAY WE TOLD YOU SO.

I SHOULD HAVE VOTED TO MOVE IT INSIDE AND NOBODY WOULD BE DEAD RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN I LOOK AT THE IMPROVEMENT AND THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT SPEND CLOSE TO $1 MILLION.

$1 MILLION.

2020. CITY WATER LINES, THE REHABILITATION OF CITY WATER LINES, 2021.

IT DID ABOUT SEVEN IMPROVEMENTS.

2022. WE STILL IN 2022.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY HAD AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM TRAINING.

THAT'S GOOD. BUILDING 14 VENTILATION PROJECT.

THEY ADDED ADDITIONAL RADIOS.

THEY'RE MEETING WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE CHIEF. WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF THIS HAPPEN? SHE FEEL MORE CONFIDENT.

WITH THIS PLAN OF THOSE PUTTING IN IT THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE PUT IT IN THE BUILDING.

IF THAT'S THEIR PLAN AND THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE THERE, IT NEEDS TO BE THERE.

AND I'M NOT A CHEMICAL ENGINEER.

I DIDN'T DO TOO WELL IN SCIENCE IN HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I THINK I'M GOING TO GO WITH THERE.

I THINK I'M GOING TO PROVE THIS BECAUSE AT THE START I WASN'T GOING TO IMPROVE IT.

BUT IT MAKES NO SENSE NOT TO IMPROVE IT BECAUSE THE CHEMICALS ARE STILL THERE OUTSIDE.

AND NOW WE BRING IT INSIDE.

FIRE SUPPRESSION.

WHAT ELSE THEY COULD DO? THEY'RE WORKING WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WORKING WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

SO. I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO PASS THIS.

AND THERE'S THIS ONE MEASURE WE COULD TELL PALM BAY WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER BECAUSE LIKE COUNCILWOMAN PHILLIP, THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. MAKING IT SAFER WOULD BE NOT TO HAVE ANY CHEMICALS THERE TO BEGIN WITH.

BUT, MADAM, CAN I FINISH THEN? I HAVE TO FINISH. I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I AGREE.

MAKING IT SAFER. JUST CLOSE THE PLANT DOWN AND GET RID OF THEM.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PROPER SOLUTION.

I THINK WORKING WITH WE'VE GOT CHEMICAL PLANTS ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

AND EVERY MISSING.

THIS APOLOGY DEALS WITH THEM.

THIS IS OUR THIS IS OUR BABY THAT WE GOT TO DEAL WITH.

SO LET'S LET'S GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED.

THANK YOU. MADAM ATTORNEY.

SO THESE CHEMICALS THAT ARE ON THE SITE TODAY, ARE THEY AUTHORIZED TO HAVE THOSE CHEMICALS ON THAT SITE RIGHT NOW? CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE TO RELY ON THE STATEMENTS OF THE CHIEF CHIEF, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE IN SPEAKING WITH CHIEF HOGG AND WITH THEIR STATEMENTS TODAY. I KNOW OF NO CHEMICALS THAT I CAN TELL YOU OF THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE.

AND I KNOW OF NO EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE THUS FAR RECEIVED.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AND MEDINA NAME PASSES 4 TO 1.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

WITNESS 2022.

DEATHS 92.

AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS.

BY REMOVING CERTAIN PROVISIONS RELATED TO ARCADE AMUSEMENT CENTERS WITHIN CC, COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND H.S.

[04:10:02]

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DEPUTY MAYOR. OKAY.

NOW, THIS IS A FINAL READING FOR THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE ARCADE AMUSEMENT CENTER'S CRITERIA IN A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS THIS IS FINAL READING.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MA'AM, THAT'S A BREACH.

I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU GO BACK OUTSIDE AND COME IN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN AT THIS POINT.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVAL IN ITS 2022 DASH 92 FINAL READING SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

DEPUTY MAYOR NOTHING TO ADD WHAT I WILL SAY A SIDE NOTE, BECAUSE THAT'S HAPPENED TWICE NOW.

IN THE FUTURE, WE VERY BEGINNING THE MEETING.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

OR FOR THEIR SAFETY. AND OUR THANKS FOR MAKING THAT PART OF THE MOTION.

SO REALLY, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FIELD, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE? NAY PASSES 4 TO 1.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

ORDINANCE 2020 293 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BARBARA COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 170 CONSTRUCTION CODES AND REGULATIONS.

SUBCHAPTER WALLS AND FENCES ARE MODIFIED PROVISIONS FOR FENCES ON CORNER, LOTS PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU, MARIA. I'LL TAKE THAT.

THIS IS THE FINAL READING FOR THE MODIFICATIONS TO FENCE PROVISIONS FOR THOSE WHO LIVE ON CORNER.

LOTS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? GO AHEAD. CALL UP THE SPEAKER, ART.

GOOD EVENING. MARK LA FUENTE.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

I'LL BE REAL BRIEF.

WE ARE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS A CORNER LOT AND SO WE WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS.

AND WE HOPE THAT YOU PASS IT, BECAUSE CURRENTLY IF WE WERE TO PUT A FENCE DOWN THE SIDE, IT WOULD BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR YARD.

AND THE 15 FEET MAKES A BIG DEAL, A BIG DIFFERENCE.

WE ALREADY GIVE UP 25 FEET BASICALLY ON THE FRONT.

WE ALSO HAVE A TRANSFORMER IN THE BACK CORNER.

WE ALSO HAVE A SEWER MANHOLE IN THE OTHER BACK CORNER.

SO WE'RE ALREADY GIVING UP PLENTY OF SPACE AND STILL WOULD BE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE HAVING AN ADDITIONAL 15 FEET FOR A FENCE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE OF I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE 2020 293 FINAL READING SECOND ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SINGING MY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSTON WANTED TO SHARE WITH ALLEVIATE THE VARIANCE ON I'M GOOD, BUT I'M GLAD WE COULD BE OF ASSISTANCE AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE IN THE CITY, SIR, SO I'M GLAD WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HELP A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS.

I CAN'T DISCUSS IT.

SORRY. IT'S JUST MAKING A COMMENT TO YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

AUDIENCE 2022.

THAT'S 94.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEETING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT COULD MODIFY STANDARDS CONTAINED THEREIN, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[04:15:04]

THIS IS FOR CHANGES TO THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING CODE.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCILOR, ANY QUESTIONS? YOU? NONE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.

ALBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS ONE PROBLEM WITH PODS IS THE SIDEWALKS.

THE HOMES ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER IN THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND SO CLOSE THAT IF YOU GET MORE THAN THREE VEHICLES IN A HOUSEHOLD, THEY HAVE TO PARK ON THE SIDEWALK.

SO IT'S MANDATORY THAT IN THE PODS THEY HAVE SIDEWALKS.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS ALL THE SIDEWALKS ARE BLOCKED BY THE VEHICLES.

SO NOW IN THESE CLOSE PROXIMITY NEIGHBORHOODS, EVERYBODY HAS TO WALK IN THE STREETS WHERE THE CARS ARE NOW OUT INTO THE STREETS BECAUSE OF A BLOCK AND THE SIDEWALK.

SO NOW I HAVE WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH THE PODS, BECAUSE I'M THIS NOSY LITTLE SON OF A GUN, I LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN I HAVE PEOPLE JUMPING OUT FROM BEHIND PARKED CARS IN ORDER TO GET INTO THE STREET.

NOT THAT I'M GOING FAST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET BECAUSE YOU PLANNED IT SO CLOSE TOGETHER.

THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO PARK OR DRIVE IN THERE OTHER THAN THEIR SIDEWALKS.

SO WHY MAKE THEM PUT IN THE SIDEWALK IF THEY'RE PARKING THEIR CARS ON THE SIDEWALKS? JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BETTER FOR THE DEVELOPER SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH PWDS IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE SO CLOSE TOGETHER THAT EVERY ONE OF THE HOMES PUTS IN AN IRRIGATION WELL, WITHDRAWS FROM THE WATER TABLE.

AND YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD HOW SOME OF OUR WATER, OUR WELLS ARE ALREADY STARTING TO HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE POD.

EVERYONE IS SINKING A WELL WELL.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THAT WATER FOR IRRIGATION BECAUSE THEY'RE ON CITY WATER.

IT'S MANDATORY THAT THEY'RE THERE.

SO MY STATEMENT WITH THIS ONE IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE NEXT TO THEM THAT ARE IN SCATTER LOTS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT WELL WATER.

BUT THESE THESE PODS ARE DRAWN FROM THE WATER TABLE.

SO THEY RUN SHORT.

THEY THEY DON'T HAVE A BACKUP SOURCE.

SO THIS PODS WOULD BE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE THE LID.

RIGHT. LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENTS.

YOU CAN GET THERE AND YOU COULD SAY, OKAY, WELL, LET'S MAKE OUR SIDEWALKS USABLE IN OUR PODS AND LET'S ALSO MAKE OUR WATER.

INSTEAD OF DRAWN FROM THE WATER TABLE, WE DRAW FROM THE STORMWATER RETENTION POND TO IRRIGATE OUR GRASSES INSTEAD OF DRAWN FROM THE WATER TABLE, WHICH DEPRIVES SOMEBODY THAT THE CITY DOESN'T PROVIDE WATER TO THEIR LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEM.

SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE CITY WATER AND NEED WATER TO LIVE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRAW IT.

THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE ORDINANCE ARE SAYING AND HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORDED.

THAT MEANS THEY'RE ACTUALLY SOMEBODY TRYING TO DO SOME WORK.

IT'S PRIOR PRIOR PLANNING TO HELP PREVENT PISS POOR PERFORMANCE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? AND I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS MASSIVE CHIEF'S CONCERNS.

UM. NOT PARTICULARLY, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS.

THE RETENTION POND.

EVERY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

SOME WILL HAVE WELLS.

SOME WILL HAVE WATER, CITY WATER FOR IRRIGATION.

SOME WILL USE WATER AND STORMWATER PONDS FOR IRRIGATION OF COMMON AREAS.

SOME WILL USE WELLS.

JUST ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THE DEVELOPMENTS KIND OF COMES TOGETHER.

DEFINITELY SOME TO CONSIDER WITH THE LIDS, RIGHT? CERTAINLY THE WATER RETENTION PONDS TO DRAW OUT OF THAT.

YES. NOT DIRECTLY RELEVANT, I DON'T BELIEVE, TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, THOUGH, BUT I'M SAYING THOSE GOOD THOUGHTS IN THE SIDEWALK.

THE SIDEWALKS OR SIDEWALKS ARE REQUIRED TO BE PUT IN PLACE IN THESE PLANS, AS WELL AS PERIMETER SIDEWALKS REQUIRE TO BE ADDED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THE LAYOUT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

MOTION APPROVED ORDINANCE 2020 290 FOR FINAL READING.

SO I CAN. MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NOTHING.

HIDE. COUNCILMAN FELIX AGAIN.

MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

A GREAT JOB BY STAFF.

LEAVE DR. JAY AND HIS DEPUTY CITY DEPUTY CITY MANAGER VERY INVOLVED IN THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT JOB THERE.

IT'S A GREAT, GREAT ORDINANCE.

[04:20:04]

I THINK THE SIDEWALK SITUATION IN THE HOA, THAT'S AN HOA ISSUE.

I'M SURE MR. STICE MAY WANT TO ADD MORE TO THAT, BUT THAT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH US TO HAVE TO DICTATE HOW TO MANAGE THAT.

SO BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS ARE.

THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON GOING BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER NINE.

AUDIENCE 2022.

THAT'S 95.

AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGETS BY APPROPRIATE AND ALLOCATED FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A CONSISTING OF FIVE PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, MARY. THIS IS THE FOURTH BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THIS IS FINAL READING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ALSO ANY QUESTIONS.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON ITS 2022 DASH 95 FINAL READING.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

YOU'RE NOW ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, DEPUTY MAYOR.

[CONSENT AGENDA:]

SEVEN. EIGHT.

THIS COUNCIL WISHED TO PULL ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS. MAYOR. YES.

14, PLEASE. THREE, SEVEN, EIGHT AND 14.

ANYONE ELSE SEEING? NONE. I NEED MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM THREE, SEVEN, EIGHT AND 14.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR I AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MADAM ATTORNEY RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 44 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BARBARA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2020 152, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTIONS 2022, ZERO FIVE, 2022, DEF 17 AND 2022.

THAT'S 38.

ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS IN THE POSSESSION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 THROUGH 2022, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATES LUTION.

2022. THAT'S 45 A RESOLUTION THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2020 153, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2022.

THAT'S ZERO SIX, 2022, 18 AND 2022.

THAT'S 39.

ADOPTING THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEARS 2021 THROUGH 2022 THROUGH 2022, 85 THROUGH 2026, WHERE THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTION CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

MR. GILBERT. ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? YES. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STRAIGHT SOUTHWEST.

[3. Award of Bid: Meter installation services - IFB 60-0-2022 - Utilities Department (National Metering Services, Inc. - $196,150).]

AND SO HOW THEY HOW THEY RELATED TO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OR TO DIFFERENT.

IDENTITIES BECAUSE ONE WAS 196,000 AND THE OTHER ONE WAS 160,000.

SO WHY? I JUST DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE TWO DIFFERENCE IS.

IF YOU KNOW WHY.

TWO IDENTITIES ON THE SAME HEADING.

THANK YOU, MADAM.

OR MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM NUMBER THREE AWARD A BID FOR MEDIA INSTALLATION SERVICES $196,000 YOU ARE REFERRING TO.

THAT IS FOR INSTALLING RECLAIMED WATER METERS, SPECIFICALLY IN SANDY PINES.

ITEM NUMBER TEN THAT WAS JUST APPROVED UNDER CONSENT, WHICH WAS ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR METER SERVICES, 160,000.

THAT WAS JUST A BUDGET TRANSACTION TO INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM FOR METERS THAT ARE PURCHASED AS A REVENUE THAT OFFSETS THE EXPENDITURES FOR JUST METER

[04:25:06]

SO TWO DIFFERENT TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THE EMOTION SO MOVED.

AND A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

I CAN BRING IN MY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

[7. Consideration of a grant agreement with Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) for funding of the construction of five (5) nutrient-separating baffle boxes ($1,200,000); and consideration of utilizing Stormwater Utility Funds for the City’s match ($300,000).]

I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRIMARY PURPOSE.

WHAT YOU'RE TAXING THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS FOR WAS TO PREVENT FLOODING.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF IT WAS.

IN FACT, I'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN MY STORMWATER UTILITY FEE WHEN WE WERE HAVING TO HAVE TO PAY THAT LARGE AMOUNTS.

SO I'M.

GREATLY IN FAVOR OF THE FACT THAT WE GET $1.2 MILLION FROM THE STATE, WHICH IS STILL MY TAX DOLLAR, $1.2 MILLION FROM THE STATE. BUT I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE USE THE ADDED STORMWATER UTILITY FEE FUND.

WHICH WAS TO PREVENT STORM STORMWATER RUNOFF.

NOT TO DO A GREEN IDEOLOGY.

CONCEPT IS GOOD. I JUST DON'T LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE FUND WAS DRAWN FOR OR THE GREEN IDEOLOGY.

SIMPLE REQUEST BECAUSE THE STORMWATER FUND WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN USED FOR PREVENTING A FLOODS, NOT FOR TREATING OF WATER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM SMITH. OR AS YOU WERE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. ARE THE CITY'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

A PER. OUR ORDINANCE WAS CREATED FOR THE COLLECTION, STORAGE, TREATMENT AND CONVEYANCE OF STORMWATER WITHIN THE CITY THAT ADEQUATELY PROTECT SURFACE WATER QUALITY.

SO THE INTENTION OF THE STORMWATER FEE THAT WE ALL PAY IS, IS NOT JUST TO PREVENT FLOODS IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE OF STORMWATER SYSTEMS, BUT ALSO FOR RELATED TO WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS TO.

AND THIS IS DOING EXACTLY THAT.

IT'S REMOVING THE NUTRIENTS, CORRECT.

SO THE 300,000 MATCH THAT'S PART OF THIS $1.2 MILLION APPROPRIATIONS FUNDED BY THE STATE IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF STORMWATER FUND DOLLARS AS THE MATCH FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE AS A CITY TO TO REALLY TAKE A HUGE STEP IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY, IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF WATER THAT'S GOING INTO TURKEY CREEK AND THE LAGOON. THESE LOCATIONS ARE IN REALLY CRITICAL AREAS OF THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE CITY ON ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR TARGETS.

AND THIS REALLY HELPS US TO TAKE A BIG STEP FORWARD IS TO.

CAPTURE MORE OF THE WATER THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS HAS JUST GONE DIRECTLY FROM PIPES AND SOILS DIRECTLY INTO THE TURKEY CREEK OR LAGOON.

THIS HELPS US CAPTURE THOSE AND CLEAN THE WATER BEFORE IT GETS IN THERE.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. YES, MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM. AS AM I.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY ROB MCKENNA.

TAKING BY. ALL IN FAVOR.

I MEAN, HE OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE NOW AN ITEM.

EIGHT. BATON.

[8. Consideration of a budget amendment related to the upgrade of Lift Station 61 (Nathi Apartments) ($73,689).]

SO THE DEVELOPER EXCEEDED THE CAPACITY OF THE LIFT STATION.

WELL, THAT WAS PART OF THE PRIOR APPROVAL WHEN WE'RE APPROVING DEVELOPERS COMING IN THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY THAT THE CITY CAN MANAGE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

WELL, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE DEVELOPERS EXCEED THE CAPACITY OF THE LIFT STATION THAT THE CITY BUILT.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GOING TO EXCEED IT.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED IT, IT HAS TO BE UPGRADED.

RIGHT. BUT THE COST OF THE UPGRADE IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN WHAT THE ORIGINAL INSTALLATION WAS.

SO NOW THE CITY ENDS UP HAVING TO PAY TWICE.

OR THE SAME LIFT STATION.

GRANTED, THE DEVELOPERS PAY IN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THAT UPGRADE, BUT IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE AUTHORIZED THE DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN BECAUSE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA NEEDS AT THAT TIME, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD BEEN HAVING TO SPEND THE MONEY THE SECOND TIME TO BEGIN WITH.

AND AGAIN, THAT RELIES ON.

SO VOTED AND ELECTED OFFICIALS SAYING, OKAY, WE CAN DISAPPROVE THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLED AT THIS TIME TO

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JUST LIKE YOU COULD SAY, WE CAN EXPAND BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET THE NEEDS FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OR WE COULD SAY WE DON'T EXPAND BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN SAY THAT FOR THE SAME THING AS WE DON'T.

THE CITY DOES NOT MEET THE NEEDS UNDER THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE SEWER SYSTEM.

YOU COULD SAY NO, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY YES.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS.

GETTING AT LEAST A PARTIAL UPGRADE PAID FOR.

AND IT CAME OUT OF THE DEVELOPERS FUND.

SO THAT PORTION OF IT, BUT THE REST OF IT CAME OUT OF THE CITY.

SO WE'RE PAYING TWICE FOR THE SAME FUNCTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, SIR.

SO. IN THE EXPANSION OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM TO MEET THE NEEDS OF DEVELOPMENTS SIMILAR TO THE EXPANSION OF ROADWAYS, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF DEVELOPMENT.

SOMEONE GOES FIRST AND THE ONE THAT GOES FIRST IS, IN THIS CASE, THEIR HYDRAULIC SHARE IN THE CASE OF ROADS PAYS THEIR PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE FOR THOSE EXPANSION NEEDS.

AND OFTENTIMES THE CITY DOES OFFSET THE COST OF THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED FOR THE GREATER EXPANSION OF THE SYSTEM.

BUT AS NEW CUSTOMERS COME ON, THEY ALSO PAY THEIR SHARE VIA IMPACT FEES AND OTHER THINGS.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXPAND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY WHILE HAVING THE DEVELOPER PAY THE APPROPRIATE PORTION OR IN THIS CASE, HYDRAULIC SHARE OF WHAT THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE SYSTEM.

OTHERWISE, IT WOULD BE INEQUITABLE.

THE OTHER WAY FOR THE DEVELOPER TO SAY, YOU HAVE TO BUILD.

OH, THANK YOU, I COULD STOP.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR, IF YOU HAVEN'T KNOWN ME TO CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS.

YEAH, CARRY ON, MA'AM.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE INEQUITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE TO BUILD AN ENTIRE NEW LIFT STATION.

THEY WOULD SUPPORT ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF WHAT THEY NEED, BUT THEN IT WOULD BE FOR OTHERS DOWN THE LINE.

SO THANK YOU.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVE. AND WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR AND ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

LISTEN, DEPUTY MAYOR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE GIVE YOU KUDOS FOR HANDLING THIS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, OUR CLERK TODAY IS IS NOT WELL. AND DEPUTY MAYOR STEPPED UP.

HE HANDLED THE TIMER THERE.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

NO ONE'S PERFECT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW YOU OUT, BUT YOU DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

SO. SO, THANK YOU.

WE ARE WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 14.

AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, YOU PULLED THIS ITEM.

[14. Acknowledgement of the City's monthly financial report for July 2022 (Unaudited).]

YES, SIR. FRANK WATANABE, OUR CITY ENGINEER.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN, FRANK WATANABE, THE CITY ENGINEER.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE RO PROGRAM UNIT 20, WHICH IS THE AREA AROUND JUPITER ELEMENTARY.

THAT UNIT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

ALL THE STREETS IN THE AREA, INCLUDING JUPITER, BETWEEN GARVEY AND MALABAR, HAS BEEN PAID.

SO THEY'RE DOING THE FINAL PUNCH LIST.

AND THEN RANGER HAS NOW MOVED UP TO UNIT 48, WHICH IS THE SECTION BETWEEN MILTON AND JUPITER ROAD THERE.

THEY'VE DONE ALL THE EDGE GRADING AND THERE ARE ABOUT 10% IN THE MILLING AND THE PAVING.

THEY HAD A BRIEF BREAKDOWN BECAUSE OF THE RAIN, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BACK NEXT WEEK AND THEY'LL BE HITTING THAT AREA PRETTY HARD.

AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET MAJORITY OF THE NORTHERN SECTION OF 48 AND THEN THEY'LL COME DOWN JUPITER.

AT THE SAME TIME, THEIR PLAN IS TO ALSO BREAK OUT THEIR FDR GROUP.

THEIR PLAN IS STARTING ON OCTOBER 1ST OF OCTOBER TO DO THE SECTION OF EMERSON BETWEEN THE C ONE CANAL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FAIRHAVEN.

THAT WAS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT.

IN ADDITION, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE GRADING AND STARTING THE NEW PHASES OF EMERSON FROM JUPITER ALL THE WAY TO AMADOR.

THAT SECTION IS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT AS WELL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALSO WIDENING THE SECTION BY GLEN COVE WITH A SIGNAL, AND THEN THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'LL HAVE THE LEFT TURN LANES. SO THAT'S RANGER AND THOSE SECTIONS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACTOR, TIM ROSE, THAT STARTED IN UNIT 30.

THEY'VE DONE ALL THE GRADING.

THEY ACTUALLY STARTED ALSO THEIR PIPE INSTALLATIONS.

AS OF THIS WEEK, THEY EVEN STARTED ABOUT NINE PIPES.

THEY'RE STARTING ON THE FAR WESTERN SIDE AND THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS DEGROOT.

AND SO AS THEY GET THE PIPES DONE, WE'RE COORDINATING RIGHT NOW TO GET THEIR MAILINGS PUT IN AND DO THE FR OPERATIONS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO THEY'LL BE STARTING THE FAR WESTERN SIDE OF UNIT 30 AND MOVING IN.

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AND THEN ONCE THE FDR IS DONE, THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND DO THE PAVING.

SO THEY PRETTY MUCH BE GOING FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST.

AND THEN THE OTHER GOOD NEWS IS THEY BROUGHT IN A SEPARATE CREW TO DO THEIR PAVING OPERATIONS FOR DEGROOT.

UNIT 30 HAS THE ENTIRE SECTION OF THE GROUP FROM JUPITER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TURN, AND IT TURNS BACK INTO UNIT, INTO THE UNIT 24 BY THE CANAL ON THEIR PLANS IS TO START OCTOBER 9TH, A SUNDAY AND I'LL BE TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE OC.

THEY'LL BE DOING THIS ALL AT NIGHT AND THEY EXPECT TO DO IT ABOUT 2 TO 3 WEEKS.

THEY WOULD BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT AROUND THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL SITUATION, BUT ALL THE WORK WILL BE DONE AT NIGHT.

SO THERE'LL BE MILLING THE ENTIRE ROADWAY ONE DIRECTION AND THEN PAVING IT AND THEN REVERSING IT AGAIN, MILLING THE ENTIRE ROADWAY AND THEN PAVING IT AGAIN.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH AN UPDATE.

THE GOOD NEWS RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE OPEN BIDS RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEW THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE CONNECT PORT MALABAR FROM BABCOCK, ALL US ONE.

THE BIDS CAME IN SLIGHTLY HIGHER.

WE EXPECTED THAT BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF MATERIALS, BUT WE HAVE NOW A BID OPENING AND THEN PROCUREMENT WILL CLEAR IT AND THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD.

AS I BELIEVE TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW BID GOING OUT, WHICH IS THE REMAINING NORTHEAST AREA, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE CONTRACT, WHICH IS ALL THE OTHER AREAS IN THE NORTHEAST STREETS.

OUR ENGINEERS ESTIMATE WAS CLOSER TO LIKE $5 MILLION.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HITTING THE STREETS NEXT WEEK.

AND OUR LAST ONE FOR THAT ENTIRE AREA, WE HOPE TO GET OUT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WHICH WOULD BE THE COUNTRY CLUB.

THE REASON WHY COUNTRY CLUB HAS BEEN HELD BACK WAS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PIPE PROBLEMS AND SO WE WERE HOPING TO FINISH THE LAST PIPE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THE CONTRACTOR HIT A POWER LINE.

IT'S BEEN DELAYED AGAIN.

SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT CONTRACT TO BE COMPLETED.

ONCE HE'S COMPLETED, THEN WE'LL RELEASE THE LAST OF THAT AREA COUNTRY CLUB.

THE GOOD NEWS WOULD BE ONCE WE HAVE ALL THOSE DONE, WHICH WOULD BE ALL OF UNIT CALL PHASE TWO UNITS, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE SHOW, WE'LL BE GETTING CLOSE TO THE UPPER 40% COMPLETION, WHICH IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE BECAUSE WE'LL BE AT THE END OF OUR FOURTH YEAR.

SO WE SHOULD BE AT 50%.

WE'D BE CLOSE. THAT'S MY UPDATE.

ELSEWHERE IN FILIBERTO. YES.

FRANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR UPDATE AND ESPECIALLY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE NORTHEAST AREA AND THE COUNTRY CLUB AREA AS WELL, BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE MY QUESTIONS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WITH THE COUNTRY CLUB AREA, IN THE NORTHEAST AREA, THE PIPES ARE NEARLY COMPLETE? CORRECT. ALL THE NOISY.

YEAH, ALL THE PIPES IN THE NORTHEAST AREA HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

THE REMAINING PIPE SECTIONS RIGHT NOW IT'S IN COUNTRY CLUB.

AND THEN ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH COUNTRY CLUB, WE'RE DONE.

SO WE'RE NOW THEN SHIFTING ALL THE CREWS RIGHT NOW TOWARDS THE SOUTH, KIND OF LIKE THE SOUTH SOUTHERN PORTIONS RIGHT NOW.

UNIT 30, UNIT 22 HAS PIPES BEING PUT IN.

THE NEXT UNIT GOING TO BREAK OUT IS GOING TO BE THE NORTHERN SECTION, WHICH WOULD BE A UNIT 44.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE ACTUALLY GOING INTO THE CENTER PARTS OF THE CITY TOWARDS THE UNITS 45, WHICH WOULD BE LOCKED MORE BECAUSE THE ENTIRE CENTER PART IS PRETTY MUCH AS WE GET CLOSE TO THE END.

THAT'S WHERE THE LAST REMAINING PROJECTS ARE.

SO WE'LL BE DOING THE PIPES IN THE ROADS AS WE GET TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE CITY.

OF IT. AND I'M ALSO HAPPY ABOUT UNIT 30.

I KNOW UNIT 30 HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE QUITE A FEW TIMES.

SO. AND THEN ONE MORE.

I DO WANT TO ADD, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPDATES, YOU KNOW, BY THE END BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO GET UNITS 13 AND 14 OUT AND THAT GOES TO UNITS WILL HAVE MADDEN AND OSMOSIS.

THOSE TWO UNITS WILL DEFINITELY GO OUT THIS YEAR TO YOU.

SO JUST SOME GENERIC QUESTIONS HERE TO HAVE ANY OPEN DEFECTS TO DATE? NOPE. SORRY.

ANY ANY ITEMS THAT WE FOUND IS A PUNCH LIST FOR THE WARRANTY HAS BEEN REPAIRED BOTH BY APS AND BY BY RANGER AND NOTHING FOUND AS OF NOTHING MAJOR.

REJUVENATION. ANY UPDATE ON REJUVENATION, SIR? AGAIN, OUR PLANS TO START NEXT YEAR FOR THE REJUVENATION, WHICH WOULD BE ALL THE REMAINING SERIES THAT WE DONE AS PART OF PHASE TWO.

SO WE'LL BE RIGHT IN SYNC.

IT'LL BE IT'LL BE BECAUSE OF THE COST.

AGAIN, IT'S AN OLD PETROLEUM BASE STILL, SO THE COST OF THE REJUVENATION HAS GONE UP AS WELL.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IN THE UPPER ALMOST CLOSE TO $2 MILLION RANGE.

AND I WANTED TO ALSO DISCUSS THAT.

I BELIEVE HIS MEDALLION MEDAL BROKE.

MY APOLOGIES. THAT'S WHERE THE POWER LINE BROKE.

CORRECT. OR THE POWER? CORRECT.

YES. SO I'M GETTING SOME COMPLAINTS ON SEYMOUR ROAD ABOUT PEOPLE HAULING BUTT AND GOING THROUGH THAT ALREADY.

YEAH, THOSE.

SEYMOUR IS A PARALLEL STREET THAT USUALLY NOBODY TAKES, BUT BECAUSE WE HAD TO CLOSE MIDDLEBROOK AND DETOUR THE TRAFFIC AROUND SEYMOUR.

SEYMOUR IS IS A WINDY LITTLE PARALLEL ROAD WHICH USUALLY NO ONE WOULD TAKE.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAD TO FORCE THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE PIPE CROSSING, IT WAS MISSING AN ADVISORY SIGN, A WARNING SIGN.

SO WE TOOK CARE OF THAT AND WE INSTALLED IT.

THE LAST WHATEVER.

HOW LONG YOU THINK IS GOING TO TAKE FOR THAT THAT POWER LINE TO GET GET CORRECTED? ACTUALLY, THE PENAL GAVE US THE GRACE AND THEY DID ENERGIZE THE PIPE, BUT THEY HAVE CERTAIN RULES ABOUT UNDERGROUND PIPES.

BUT BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD OUR SITUATION AND THE NEED TO GET THIS PIPE CROSSING AND THE ROAD OPEN UP, THE PIPES ACTUALLY BEEN INSTALLED NOW.

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THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF THE THE DAMAGED CABLE LATER ON.

BUT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION IS MOVING FORWARD.

THE PIPE HAS BEEN INSTALLED.

AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE FINISHING UP THE THE CULVERTS AT EACH END.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT ROAD REOPEN SOMETIME NEXT WEEK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FRANK. AND THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN.

I ALSO WANTED TO ADVISE THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE THAT THE CITY WEBSITE HAS BEEN UPDATED TO DATE.

SO THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN, FOR THAT AS WELL.

CAN I GET IN MOTION, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR AND THE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ONE UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:]

SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR, I.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS.

I'LL START WITH YOU, MR. FILIBERTO. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]

SO THERE WAS A SECOND ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

THERE WAS A HYDRAULIC LEAK.

I'M SURE ALL YOU GUYS HEARD ACROSS FROM ON TOP OF TURKEY CREEK CANAL WHERE THE BRIGHT LINE IS GOING THROUGH.

THERE WAS A MASSIVE RESPONSE BY ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO THIS ACTUALLY GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE AT THE TURKEY CREEK.

I KNOW NATALIE WAS THERE. PUBLIC WORKS, UTILITIES AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THANK YOU, FARAI. ALL HANDS ON DECK EFFORT.

IT WAS NOTICED BY BY CITY RESIDENTS.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE A CARE FOR OUR LAGOON AND FOR OUR TURKEY CREEK, AND WE'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY TOWARDS THAT EFFORT.

SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE CITY STAFF THERE.

NO FURTHER. NO FURTHER REPORT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

COUNCILMAN FELIX YOU, MAYOR.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THAT BROUGHT UP THE IDEA FOR 911.

WHAT A SPECIAL TIME THAT WAS.

I MEAN, I DIDN'T GET TO GO TO CHURCH.

THAT WAS MY CHURCH.

AND REALLY, IT WAS REALLY, TRULY A SPECIAL TIME ON SUCH AN OCCASION, VERY UPLIFTING.

AND AND IT WAS REALLY SPECIAL.

SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MAYOR, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU PROBABLY SPIKED THAT IDEA ORIGINALLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHO DID, BUT WHEREVER WHOEVER PARTICIPATED, CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, GREAT JOB REALLY.

THAT'S WHAT REALLY, TRULY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

CHANGING THE NARRATIVE AND CHANGING PALM BAY TAKE, YOU KNOW, TAKE, TAKE THE CITY IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

THESE ARE PIECES PART OF THE PUZZLE WHEN WE DO SPECIAL THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY IN BREVARD COUNTY THAT DID SOMETHING SO SPECIAL.

I THOUGHT IT'S WORTH RECOGNIZING IF YOU WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IS WATCHING, IF YOU WEREN'T THERE, YOU TRULY MISSED A SPECIAL TIME AND HONORING THOSE THAT GIVE IT ALL OF US FOR FREEDOM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YEAH. I'M JUST GOING TO BE BRIEF.

COUNCILMAN. FELIX TOOK MY THOUGHTS ON 911.

9/11 CHANGED MY LIFE WHEN IT HAPPENED.

CERTAIN THINGS IN MY LIFE CHANGED.

AFTER THE TWIN TOWERS AND THE PENTAGON WAS ATTACKED.

BUT I'M GLAD THAT THIS CITY IS HONORING.

PATRIOT DAY. PATRIOT DAY.

AND I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO I GUESS I'LL I'LL I'LL START WITH THE FIRST THING IS I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS IN PARKS AND REC.

THEY THEY THEY PUT THIS TOGETHER.

YES. WAS IT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANTED TO BRING TO THE CITY? ABSOLUTELY. I, I HAVE I'VE WITNESSED A.

SEVERAL, SEVERAL SURVIVORS FROM SEPTEMBER 11TH TO INCLUDE VISITING THE PENTAGON.

AND SO, YEAH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

I WANT TO THANK STAFF, THANK MADAM SHERMAN, BECAUSE IT WAS AN EMOTIONAL DAY FOR ALL OF US.

I WILL SAY I DID GO TO TWO SERVICES BEFORE I DID ATTEND.

I WAS IN THE RIGHT MIND SPIRITUALLY, I GUESS, BUT IT WAS INDEED A TIME OF TRIBUTE TO TO VALUE THE

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AND I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL.

FOR BEING PRESENT AND NOT ONLY BEING PRESENT, BUT BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THE HARD WORK OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST AND PAYING A TRIBUTE.

WE HAD OUTSTANDING SPEAKERS.

WE HAD I WAS REALLY EMOTIONALLY MOVED BY THE SURVIVOR, LEROY, WHO WAS UNDERNEATH THE WELL.

AND HE AND I NEVER KNEW THIS.

BUT IF YOU IF YOU GO UNDERNEATH THE WELL OR WHAT IS IT CALLED, THE DRAMA OF THE WHEEL, THAT'S THE SAFEST PLACE YOU CAN BE IN A VEHICLE.

AND SO WHEN THE TOWERS FELL, THAT'S WHERE HE WAS AND HE SURVIVED.

IT WAS AN AMAZING TESTIMONY THEN TO HEAR OF A YOUNG MAN THAT WAS IN THE SEVENTH GRADE, WATCHED THE TOWERS FALL.

AND THEN TO SAY EVERY DAY AFTER THAT IS AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM WAS THE AFTERMATH, THE RECOVERY.

AND HE WENT AND RAISED HIS RIGHT HAND.

AND AND HE'S A PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT.

HE WENT IN, FOUGHT OUR BATTLES.

BUT THIS COUNCIL REALLY BLESSED ME BY YOUR PRESENCE.

YOU TRULY DID. I WAS REALLY EXCITED.

WE HAD A LOT OF YOUTH THERE TO CARRY THE BATON FORWARD.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOUR OF MY GRANDCHILDREN WERE THERE AND SO I WAS REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THAT.

AND MY SON, MY SON TOOK MY COUNSEL THAT HE SHOULD BE THERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IT'S OUR OBLIGATION.

IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE NEVER WE NEVER FORGET.

AND THEN I WANT TO END ON A GREAT NOTE.

THIS MONDAY, WE'RE GOING TO HONOR A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, PAT WOODARD.

THAT THAT'S SAD. AND I KNOW MASTER CHIEF NEW KNOWS HIM.

NINE YEARS HE SERVED ON THIS COUNCIL BACK THEN.

THERE WERE THREE YEAR TERMS. HE SERVED THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS. AND WHAT HE BROUGHT TO THIS COUNCIL WAS WAS REALLY A VALUE WHERE HE COULD BRIDGE THE GAP AND WORK WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS AT A TIME WHERE THIS THIS CITY WAS BEING FORMED, IN PARTICULAR WITH STORMWATER ISSUES.

RIGHT. SO I'M GLAD THIS COUNCIL DECIDED TO HONOR HIM.

WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE THE PARK THIS MONDAY AT 1130.

SO THAT'S A PUBLIC INVITATION.

COME ON OUT. WE'RE GOING TO HONOR A MAN THAT GAVE SO MUCH TO OUR CITY.

HE ALSO WORKED AS A AN AIDE TO A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND ALWAYS HAD PALM BAY HIS BEST INTERESTS AT HAND.

SO I CONCLUDE WITH THAT AN INVITATION, AND NOW I'M GOING ON TO ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM.

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:]

WHO IS LAURA? SHE WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO STAY HERE TO THE VERY END, EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THE VERY END.

SO THANK YOU, LAURA.

BUT I WANTED COUNCIL TO TO KNOW HER AND SAY HI IF YOU GET A CHANCE.

IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY MET LAURA, SHE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 16 YEARS OR SO AND HAS SERVED THE CITY FAITHFULLY AND VERY WELL FOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME, ALSO IN SENIOR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, IN HUMAN RESOURCES AS WELL AS IN UTILITIES.

AND WE'RE VERY GLAD THAT SHE HAS STEPPED INTO THE ROLE.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY INTRODUCTIONS AND PLEASE STOP BY AND SAY HI IF YOU CAN BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

THANK YOU. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM.

COUNCIL. ANYONE WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS? EVERYBODY WAVING.

GOD BLESS YOU, MA'AM. I THINK EVERYONE'S TIRED.

MADAM SMITH.

NOTHING FURTHER, SIR.

OKAY. WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FIRST ONE IS SHE'S BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.

MS.. GLORIA THOMAS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

AND BY THE WAY, MY SON HELPED WITH SEPTEMBER 11 CLEANING UP.

HE WAS A FOOTBALL PLAYER FOR THE GIANTS.

ALL RIGHT. YES.

WHAT'S HIS NAME? DAVE THOMAS.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S YOUR BOY? YES. HE WAS AN OUTSTANDING FOOTBALL PLAYER FOR THE GIANTS.

YES. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANKS. MY NAME IS GLORIA THOMAS.

I LIVE IN WEST, UNDER THE STREET.

I'M COME HERE.

I'M A LITTLE EMOTION BECAUSE.

I CAME HERE, I HAVE A KID AND I CAME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM MY KIDS.

I DIDN'T WANT A BABYSITTER ANYMORE.

I DIDN'T WANT THEM MOVING IN ANYMORE.

I WAS SICK OF IT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE FOUR BEDROOM, EVERYBODY COMES.

SO ANYWAY, THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE.

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WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS HERE.

WE SENIORS, BECAUSE WE HAVE CLUBS.

WE WE JOINED CLUBS AND WE MEET.

I JUST WENT TO ONE TODAY.

55 AND UP.

WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE SEPTIC AIR PUMP.

IT'S A RIP OFF FOR US.

AND WE ARE ON A SET BUDGET.

THAT WILL IT WILL OFFER SOCIAL SECURITY AND OUR PENSION.

SOME OF SOME I'M LUCKY I HAVE TO, BECAUSE I USED TO.

I RETIRE FROM JACKSON FOR 35 YEARS.

AND SOME OF US SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE BUT ONE, CHECK THE SOCIAL SECURITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANY, ALL THE COMPANIES, ALMOST THE SAME.

THE LITTLE THE AIR.

THEY CALL IT THE AIR ACTIVATOR FOR THE SEPTIC.

IS A THING THAT THEY MAKE MONEY OFF AND IT HURT US.

YEAH. AND THEY MAKE MONEY OFF OF US.

AND WE BY THE TIME THE CONTRACT UP, THEY GIVE US TWO YEARS.

WE PAY 400 SOME.

SOME OF US PAY FOR 50.

SOME FOR 400 FOR TWO YEARS.

IF THEY WHEN THEY CALL, WE ASK THEM, WHEN YOU COME IN, I HAVE A GATE.

AND I USED TO HAVE A SAINT BERNARD.

SO I HAVE THIS TIME.

AND I ASK THEM, COULD YOU JUST CALL ME WHEN YOU COME IN? I LET ME KNOW YOU'RE COMING IN MY YARD.

ONE OF THE COMPANY DROPPED ME AND TOLD ME, WE DON'T HAVE NO TIME FOR THAT CRAP.

WE DON'T WANT YOU STANDING OVER THERE.

WHEN IT COMES THE PUMP BY MY BEDSIDE ON THE MIC, MAN.

THIS TIME. THIS TIME, RIGHT OVER THE BOX.

THEY DON'T EVEN OPEN IT.

IT'S SOUND GOOD, AND THEY DON'T KNOW YOU'RE WATCHING THEM.

OK BY THE TIME YOU THE CONTRACT IS UP AND BRAVO COUNTY, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PERMIT.

THE PUMPS ARE GONE.

IT PUMP GONE.

IT'S NOT WORKING ANYMORE BECAUSE WHAT THEY DO, THEY GET THIS LITTLE PUMP AND THEY REBUILD THEM.

AND THEN THEY COME AND THEY COME AND START MAKING NOISE TO MAYBE TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

YOU GET IT. AND YOU HAVE THE BREVARD COUNTY BILL, YOU HAVE THE COMPANY BUILD, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TWO YEARS TO PAY. OKAY.

SO LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

WHAT I AM ASKING YOU RIGHT NOW, I'M SORRY.

I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE MUCH TIME, BUT I NEED YOU TO HEAR US.

IT'S A LOT OF US GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING.

YEAH, BUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A SEPTIC TANK.

THE SEPTIC TANK? YOUR PERSONAL SEPTIC.

YES. OKAY.

AND WHO WHO REGULATES THAT? THE STATE. THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THE STATE AGENCY.

AND. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS.

WELL, MA'AM, WE DON'T REGULATE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I WANT YOU TO ACTION YOU AS A AS A COUNSELOR, HELPING US AS SENIORS.

WE ARE GETTING WE ARE HURT.

WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT NOW THIS COMPANY.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU MORE, MORE TIME.

BUT LET ME LET ME JUST LOOK AT WHAT MAYBE YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR INFORMATION AND WE COULD RESEARCH WHAT WE CAN DO.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A STATE AGENCY.

BUT WE COULD AND WE PEEL THAT ONION BACK A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHERE WE.

YES, MAYOR, I'M HEARING RESOURCES.

WELL, HEARING MRS. THOMAS'S CONCERN, I WILL GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION AND WE WILL REACH OUT AND TALK THROUGH AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP.

WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT.

RIGHT. THEY DON'T EVEN WANT US TO.

YOU AND THREATENING ME.

OKAY, MA'AM, LEAVE YOUR INFORMATION AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE WE HAVE HOW WE CAN HOW WE CAN HELP.

OKAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, MA'AM. SENIORS ARE GOING.

I UNDERSTAND, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

STEP FORWARD. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE TWO ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE WAS JUST LIKE YOU SAID, BRAVO ZULU ON THE 911 CEREMONY.

I'M NOT ONE TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF A CROWD FOR A FUNCTION LIKE THAT.

SO I WAS THERE. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF YOU SAW ME.

I'M KIND OF IN THE BACKGROUND.

I FEEL A LITTLE BIT SAFER BY BEING IN THE BACKGROUND OF FUNCTIONS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S JUST WHO I AM.

BUT SOMETHING THAT ALSO IMPRESSED ME WITH THAT 911 CEREMONY WAS, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAD YOUR GRANDCHILDREN THERE.

THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT CAME WERE ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH IT AND WERE THAT'S WHAT MADE ME FEEL THE BEST.

BUT IT ALSO LEFT ME ONE QUESTION WHY DO WE HAVE TO NUMBER ONE LADDER TRUCKS?

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THAT'S FOR THE CITY MANAGER THERE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO WAS WHEN THEY'RE GETTING READY FOR START PAVING ON DEGROOT ROAD BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT AT THE SCHOOL ZONE AND BAYSIDE LAKES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT GAYNOR ROAD.

GAYNOR ROAD, AS COUNCILMAN FELIX KNOWS, HE USES IT AS THE CUT THROUGH BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EASY WAY TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC.

BUT IT'S NOT A COLLECTOR ROAD, IT'S A LOCAL ROAD.

AND ALL THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO SAY, OH, MAN, I'M GOING TO AVOID THIS.

CAN YOU TELL ME, YOU KNOW, JUST BY A RAISE OF HAND, HOW MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT NORTH-SOUTH ROAD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONE THAT GOES THROUGH, AND THAT'S GAYNOR TO GARVEY.

THAT'S ONE THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING.

SO IF YOU THINK I'M COMPLAINING NOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON THE LOCAL ROAD BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T COMPLETED YOUR COLLECTOR ROADS, WELL, ONE MORE TIME, IT'S ME. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND GOOD JOB ON 911 CEREMONY.

BRAVO ZULU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.

BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS, THIS MEETING, I WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD BREAK OUR RECORD AND GO TO TOMORROW MORNING.

BUT SEEING THAT THAT'S NOT AN OPTION RIGHT NOW, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

WE PICKED UP ON IT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.