Oct 06, 2022 Council Meetings - Regular

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I LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2020 DASH 29 TO ORDER.

THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY OUR I.T.

DIRECTOR BRIAN ROBINSON, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN RANDY FOSTER.

ALL RIGHT. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPREADING YOUR PRESENCE OR THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANOINTING.

TONIGHT, YOU'RE READY TO GUIDE US IN OUR DECISION MAKING.

WE THANK YOU, LORD GOD, FOR WISDOM AND INSIGHT.

BUT THANK YOU, GOD FOR GIVING US THE POWER TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THIS GREAT CITY.

WE THANK YOU AS WE PUT ALL THINGS IN YOUR HANDS BECAUSE YOU SAID THE GOVERNMENT IS UP ON YOUR SHOULDER.

SO WE TRUST YOU. WE TRUST YOUR GUIDANCE WITH TRUST YOUR FORESIGHT INTO ALL THINGS.

WE GIVE YOU THINGS IN JESUS NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN. IT'S THE AMERICAN FLAG.

THERE'S ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH SAYS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

LISTEN, I'M JUST SO MOTIVATED WHEN I HEAR WHEN I HEAR EVERYONE IN UNISON SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THAT'S JUST GUNG HO FOR ME.

ROLL CALL, MS.. LEFLER.

MAYOR MEDINA. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

COUNCILMAN FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO HERE.

MISS SHERMAN HERE.

MISS SMITH HERE.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD, REPRESENTING AT-LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION AND ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS.

RESIDENT OF THE CITY ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL HOMEBUILDER OR FOR PROFIT PROVIDER.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 321952 30 414.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A LIST THIS EVENING, SO IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME.

THE FIRST IS AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR MEDINA.

A PROCLAMATION FOR VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL.

OCTOBER 15TH, 2022, HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER PROCLAMATION TO RECOGNITIONS.

ALSO A PROCLAMATION FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK OCTOBER 3RD THROUGH SEVENTH 2022 HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, THERE HAS BEEN A MODIFICATION TO ORDINANCE 2022 104, ITEM ONE UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS RELATING TO THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM.

THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM 16 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS HAS REQUESTED THAT CASE.

SIU DASH 47, DASH 2022.

YOU CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 20TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO BE CONSIDERED WITH THE FINAL READING OF THE ACCOMPANYING REZONING REQUEST.

ITEM 12 UNDER CONSENT AGENDA RELATING TO POLICE TRAVEL HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

A RESOLUTION TERMINATING THE STATE OF EMERGENCY HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND A REQUEST FOR COMMENT APPARATUS FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM ONE UNDER PROCUREMENTS.

OC COUNCIL.

I NEED A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 16 MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 16 TO OCTOBER 20TH 6 P.M.

REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAID GOODBYE COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR II PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REVISIONS, MA'AM.

YES, SIR. MA'AM, AT THIS TIME COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND IT IS A PARTNERSHIP ITEM WITH THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER CELEBRATING VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL ON OCTOBER 15 AT FRED POPPI REGIONAL PARK.

I WANTED TO MOVE THAT RIGHT BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AFTER EXCUSE ME, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS SO MOVED.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SECONDED MY COUNCILMAN.

FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, COUNSEL.

MISS SMITH, ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP EVERYONE HERE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

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EVEN TO.

ALL RIGHT, HERE YOU GO. CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

NOTICE IN PROCLAMATION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECOGNIZES THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT VICTIM SERVICE UNIT ASSISTS OVER 2000 VICTIMS AND THEIR CHILDREN ANNUALLY.

AND. WHEREAS, ON AVERAGE, 20 PEOPLE PER MINUTE ARE PHYSICALLY ABUSED BY AN INTIMATE PARTNER IN THE UNITED STATES OVER THE COURSE OF ONE YEAR, THIS EQUATES TO MORE THAN 10 MILLION WOMEN AND MEN.

AND. WHEREAS, ON IN EVERY THREE WOMEN AND ONE IN FOUR MEN WILL EXPERIENCE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DURING HER OR HIS LIFETIME.

AND. WHEREAS, SEXUAL VIOLENCE AFFECTS WOMEN, MEN AND CHILDREN OF ALL RACIAL, SOCIAL, RELIGIOUS, ETHNIC AND ECONOMIC GROUPS IN OUR COMMUNITY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VIOLATES AN INDIVIDUAL'S PRIVACY, DIGNITY, SECURITY AND HUMANITY DUE TO THE SYSTEMATIC USE OF PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, SEXUAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL AND ECONOMIC CONTROL AND OR ABUSE.

AND. WHEREAS, EVERY PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO LIVE THEIR LIFE FREE FROM THE THREAT OF ABUSE AND VIOLENCE.

AND. WHEREAS, VICTIMS SHOULD HELP HAVE HELPED TO FIND THE COMPASSION, COMFORT AND HEALING THEY NEED, AND DOMESTIC ABUSERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW. NOW, THEREFORE, I MET MAYOR JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2022 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT WORK TOWARD IMPROVING VICTIM SAFETY AND HOLDING PERPETRATORS OF DOMESTIC ABUSE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS AGAINST INDIVIDUAL VICTIMS IN OUR SOCIETY.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERE ON TWO SET IN MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE FIXED THIS SIX DAY OF OCTOBER 2022.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CORAL PEREZ.

I'M WITH SERENE HARBOR.

WE ARE A CERTIFIED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CENTER HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY, AND WE'VE BEEN SERVING THE COMMUNITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

WE ARE HONORED TO BE RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION TODAY.

AND FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP US CONTINUE OUR MISSION TO END THE CYCLES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS PROCLAMATION TODAY.

WE'RE VERY HONORED TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AND WITH REGARDS TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

SO, YES, AS POLICE OFFICERS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, WE ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO RESPOND OUT THERE AND ARE THE FIRST ONES THAT INITIALLY OUR VICTIM SEES AND DEALS WITH.

BUT AFTER THAT, ONCE THE OFFICER LEAVES, WE HAVE OUR VICTIM SERVICES ADVOCATES.

SO I WANT TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE AND RECOGNIZE OUR TEAM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 1998.

SO FOR THE LAST 24 TO 25 YEARS, PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THE FIRST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN BEAVER COUNTY THAT ESTABLISHED A VICTIM SERVICES UNIT AS PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THERE ARE 24 SEVEN OPERATIONS, AND SINCE THEN THEY'VE HELPED OVER 50,000 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS AS A RESULT OF IT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR VICTIM SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS DANA PACKARD, WHO WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINALS TO HELP ESTABLISH IT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

DANA JESSICA HENCHMAN, SHE'S OUR BUDGET OFFICER.

SHE HELPS WITH OUR GRANTS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR OUR SALARIES, FOR OUR TWO FULL TIME ADVOCATES AND OUR TWO FULL TIME ADVOCATES.

IS AMANDA HOUSE RIGHT, WHO'S BEEN BEEN WITH US FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

SANDIE DOBSON WHO'S BEEN WITH US OVER 30 YEARS, 30 YEARS AS A COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER WORKING UP IN OUR DISPATCH AND FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WORKING AT THE VICTIM SERVICES ADVOCATE. AND OF COURSE, KIMBERLY MADE SHE'S ALSO ONE OF OUR DISPATCHERS, NOW WORKS WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO MOONLIGHTS BACK AT THE DISPATCH BECAUSE WE NEED HER, BUT ALSO IS A VICTIM SERVICE ADVOCATE AS WELL.

SO IF IT'S NOT FOR THEM, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH OUR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE WORTH SO MUCH.

AND FOR THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.

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GOT IT.

YOU'RE SANTA ISABEL, RIGHT? CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

NOTICE IN PROCLAMATION YOU COME A LITTLE CLOSER.

NOTICE THE PROCLAMATION OF NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15, 2022.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

HURRAH! BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

I GOT YOU, MAYOR WEST.

NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS A TIME TO HONOR THE INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS HISPANICS MAKE TOWARDS THE EXPANSION OF THE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND THE SIGNIFICANT PURCHASING POWER BEHIND HISPANIC AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, WHILE CELEBRATING DIVERSITY AND ADVOCACY FOR A STRONGER, MORE INCLUSIVE AND PROSPEROUS SOCIETY FOR ALL.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RECOGNIZES THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND THE VITAL ROLE THEY PLAY IN OUR ECONOMY AND WORKFORCE.

AND. WHEREAS, IN THE 2022, THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE INC.

WAS ESTABLISHED TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS AND ASSIST MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES FACING ECONOMIC CHALLENGES AND DISCRIMINATION ISSUES AND TO ASSIST IN CONTRACTING WITH FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR AGENCIES THEREOF THROUGH DIRECT LOAN OR FINANCIAL AID IN THE FORM OF GRANTS TO FURTHER MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES.

WHEREAS, THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS PROUD TO RECOGNIZE THE HISPANIC INVENTIONS LIKE THE LIFE SAVING NEONATAL BUBBLE THAT PROVIDES A WARM AND STERILE ENVIRONMENT FOR A NEWBORN IN LESS THAN 2 SECONDS SAVING THOUSANDS OF LIVES.

THE REVOLUTIONARY COLOR TV, THE SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE AND THE CAPTURE SECURITY SYSTEM.

THESE INVENTIONS REPRESENT THE HISPANIC COMMITMENT TO ADVANCEMENT IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

AND. WHEREAS, THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS HONORED TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY HISPANICS IN OUR MILITARY, THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.

THERE WE GO. LET'S DO THAT ONE MORE TIME.

THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.

HURRAH! THERE WE GO.

HAS THE HIGHEST REPRESENTATION OF HISPANICS WHO REACHED THE TOP RANKS OF THE MARINE CORPS SERVING OUR COUNTRY AND SENSITIVE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS ON DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN SHORES, WITH GENERALS SUCH AS MAJOR GENERAL ANGELA SALINAS OF MEXICO AND LIEUTENANT GENERAL PEDRO DEL VALLE OF PUERTO RICO.

DEVI DEVI OF PUERTO RICO, THE FIRST HISPANICS TO REACH SUCH RANKS.

AND. WHEREAS, ON SEPTEMBER 18, 1980, THE FIRST HISPANIC ASTRONAUT, CUBAN BORN ARNALDO TAMAYO MENDEZ, FLEW INTO SPACE AND OPEN THE GATES FOR NASA TO RECRUIT HISPANICS INTO THE US ASTRONAUT PROGRAM, WE RECOGNIZE JOSEPH CAMPBELL, THE FIRST PUERTO RICAN ASTRONAUT.

ELLEN OCHOA.

OCHOA OCHOA BECAME THE FIRST HISPANIC WOMAN AND MEXICAN ASTRONAUT.

AND DR. FRANK RUBIO, ASTRONAUT FROM EL SALVADOR.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, KENNY JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ITS FOUNDER, SANTA ISABEL WRIGHT, FOR THE COMMITMENT TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF HISPANICS AND MINORITIES AND PASSION FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE.

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. YEP.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT, BUT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR COUNTRY.

SO AND SO.

HERE'S MY SPEECH.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE, BY THE WAY.

MAYOR MEDINA, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, I AM TRULY HUMBLED TO BE RECEIVING THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND OUR AMAZING MEMBERS.

HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH ALLOWS US TO FOSTER RESPECT, OPEN MINDEDNESS FOR OTHER CULTURES.

CELEBRATING OUR DIFFERENCES AS WELL AS OUR COMMON INTERESTS HELPS UNITE AND EDUCATE US.

HISPANIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CULTURE, OUR ECONOMY, AND THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION CANNOT BE DENIED.

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TODAY, WE RECOGNIZE HISPANIC SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, OUR VETERANS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR TEACHERS, OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS, AMONG MANY OTHER PROFESSIONS.

AND WE ARE PROUD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD, THE PERFECT PLACE TO GROW OUR OWN PALM BAY FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND WILLINGNESS TO BE INCLUSIVE IN AN EMERGING, GROWING DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

DIVERSITY, BREADTH, BREATHES LIFE AND MEANING INTO OUR IDENTITIES AND OUR KNOWLEDGE OF WHO WE ARE IN OUR WORD, OUR HERITAGE.

IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS FOR YOUR SUPPORT THAT IS BEYOND APPRECIATED.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK ROSEMARY SAAVEDRA, AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, FOR HER PROFESSIONALISM AND EAGERNESS TO ALWAYS HELP.

AS THOMAS, WE ARE GLAD TO SEE SO MUCH OF GARCIA.

THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION AND PLEASE SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS IN PALM BAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOD BLESS YOU.

THE.

SO. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME.

THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

WE HAVE OTHER PROCLAMATIONS TO GO JUST TO MORE BEAR WITH US.

BUT IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT MONTH FOR US.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW.

HISPANICS KNOW HOW TO PARTY.

HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH GOES FROM SEPTEMBER TO OCTOBER.

SO WE TAKE UP TWO MONTHS AS OPPOSED TO JUST A MONTH.

IT IS A MONTH, 30 DAYS.

BUT WE LIKE TO PARTY.

SO I WANT TO CALL OUT JAVIER AND HIS ENTOURAGE, HARVILLE MOLINARI.

COME ON, BRING YOUR TEAM.

THANKS FOR COMING UP ON THE OTHER LINE.

COME ON, TEAM.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 15 TO OCTOBER 15 IS OBSERVED AS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

AND WE RECOGNIZE THE MANY AMERICANS OF HISPANIC DESCENT WHO HAVE MADE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR NATION.

AND. WHEREAS, OUTSTANDING CITIZENS OF HISPANIC DESCENT HAVE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS OF MAJOR IMPORTANCE TO THE ECONOMIC, EDUCATIONAL AND CULTURAL LIFE IN OUR CITY, STATE AND OUR NATION, AND WHERE OUR SPECIAL EVENTS ARE TAKING PLACE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, ACROSS THE NATION IN OBSERVANCE OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, CELEBRATING THE RICH CULTURE, TRADITIONS, AND REMARKABLE IMPACT ON AMERICAN SOCIETY MADE BY HISPANIC AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS, THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER IS A 501 SEAT, THREE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT CONNECTS THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY WITH BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL.

I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

JAVIER, ON THE IMPACT OF EMPOWERMENT AND TEACHING ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE THAT'S DONE IN THE CENTER.

WHEREAS IN CELEBRATION, I WAS THERE TODAY, ALONG WITH THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER AND SEVERAL BUSINESS PARTNERS AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE CELEBRATING THE 2022 VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL ON OCTOBER 15TH AT FRED POPPI REGIONAL PARK.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 15TH AS VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND INVITE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO ATTEND THE 2022 VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL.

AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SIXTH DAY OF OCTOBER 2020 TO JAVIER.

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IT IS MY HONOR TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION FROM MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, MAYOR ROB MOLINA.

YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO.

MAYOR ROB MEDINA CAME TO ME AND TOLD ME HOW WE'RE.

I HAVE A MISSION FOR YOU.

I WANT YOU TO DO THE VIVA RIVER FESTIVAL.

THE CONGRESSMAN GAVE ME THE MISSION TO GIVE YOU THE VIVA RIVER FESTIVAL.

I SAY, LET'S DO IT.

LET'S DO IT RIGHT AWAY.

BACK THEN, I WAS DOING THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL OVER THERE AT THE PALM BAY LIBRARY, AND I STILL REMEMBER THAT.

YES, WE DID IT TOGETHER.

BUT THEN WE MOVE IT TO THE PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK.

AND FRED WAS THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THE PALM BAY.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, FRED, FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT FOR SO MANY YEARS TO THE VIVA RIVER FESTIVAL AND THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, FRED.

SO WE STARTED THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER AFTER WE CREATED THE VIVA RIVER FESTIVAL.

BECAUSE WE HAD A COMMITTEE AND WE PUT TOGETHER THE MULTICULTURAL.

POWER PROJECT, A PROJECT THAT IS SITTING ON YOUR DESK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT LATER.

AND IN THAT COMMITTEE, WE CREATED THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION WHERE WE HELP INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IN AREAS OF EDUCATION, HEALTH, FAMILY ISSUES, IMMIGRATION, ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT AT THE RURAL HISPANIC CENTER.

WE HAD THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE INTEGRATION PROGRAM, WHERE WE HELP INDIVIDUALS THAT WENT TO SCHOOL IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

WE RAISE THE LEVEL OF ENGLISH SO THEY CAN WORK IN THE UNITED STATES AND WHAT THEY WENT TO SCHOOL FOR.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE DOCTORS CLEANING DISHES, WORKING IN RESTAURANTS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE WORKING IN CLINICS AND HOSPITALS.

AND MOST OF THE TIME THE MAIN BARRIER IS THE LANGUAGE AND WE HELP THEM WITH THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE THE DE LA CROSSE VOLUNTEER CLINIC WHERE WE SEE PATIENTS THAT DON'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE.

YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOMS ON A BILL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO SEE A DOCTOR.

WE SEE THEM FOR FREE AT THE HISPANIC CENTER, AND THAT'S A GREAT SERVICE THAT HELP THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT NEED, BUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

SO TODAY, WE ARE NOT ONLY CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, WE ARE ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO A GREAT CAUSE, WHICH IS THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CITY COUNCIL.

LOOK AT THAT BEAUTY, THAT CITY COUNCIL.

LOOK AT THAT DIVERSE.

WE HAVE WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC, PUERTO RICAN, BORICUA, AFRICAN AMERICAN, ITALIAN.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN THAT CITY COUNCIL.

THAT CITY COUNCIL REALLY REPRESENTS THE CITIZENS OF THE GREAT CITY IN THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

BROTHER. OKAY.

SEE, WE'RE JUST A LITTLE.

I TAKE ALL I'M SUPPOSED TO TAKE A PICTURE.

OH, MA'AM. WE'LL KNOW WHEN THAT PHOTO.

WE'RE NOT KEEPING YOU GUYS A WOMAN SINCE I'M.

COME ON, HANNAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL. WHAT IS IT? LISTEN, I JUST WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW? DID I MENTION HISPANICS KNOW HOW TO PARTY? SO THIS IS HAPPENING OCTOBER 15TH.

SO I ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU COME TASTE OUR CULTURE.

COME, COME VISIT THE FESTIVAL.

BUT IF YOU MISSED THAT ONE, WE GOT A WEEK AFTER THAT BECAUSE.

BECAUSE WE'RE STILL PARTYING, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE PUERTO RICAN DAY FESTIVAL RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF CITY HALL.

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HURRAH! LIKE I SAID, WE KNOW HOW TO PARTY.

SO NOW THERE'S A PROCLAMATION FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK.

WHERE'S OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSONNEL? COME ON UP. THIS IS THE FACE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

PRETTY MUCH WHEN YOU COME PAY YOUR WATER BILL AND STUFF.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT THE FIRST PEOPLE YOU YOU MAKE CONTACT WITH.

THANKS FOR COMING, GUYS.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BAY.

WHEREAS CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK WAS FIRST.

EXCUSE ME. WAS FIRST HELD IN 1988 AND OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED BY THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE CONGRESS AS A NATIONAL NATIONWIDE CELEBRATION IN 1992.

WHEREAS, THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE CUSTOMER SERVICE EMPLOYEES ARE OF VITAL OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE EMPLOYEES ARE A DEDICATED TEAM THAT CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATE A STRONG COMMITMENT TO CUSTOMER SATISFACTION.

AND. WHEREAS, THIS YEAR'S THEME CELEBRATE SERVICE IS A TRIBUTE TO THESE CUSTOMER SERVICE PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK IN THE FRONT LINES WHERE THE CITY EMPLOYEES MEET OUR CITIZENS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF SAID AUTHORITY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 3RD THROUGH THE SEVEN 2022 IS CUSTOMER SERVICE WEEK AND CALL UPON ALL OUR CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND HONOR THESE SERVICE PROFESSIONALS FOR THEIR FRIENDLY AND COURTEOUS.

ASSISTANCE THAT THEY PROVIDE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND WITNESS HERE, AS I HAVE HERE ON SET IN MY HAND, AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY THIS SIX DAY OF OCTOBER 2022.

AND WHO'S RECEIVING THIS? ALL RIGHT, MA'AM.

COME ON IN. I'M LISTENING TO ALL OF THE PROCLAMATIONS AND I'M LIKE, MAN, THAT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. BUT THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER.

SHE USED TO BE ONE OF US, BUT THEN SHE SHE WENT UP, SHE GOT HIGHER.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF WE'RE UTILITIES, CUSTOMER CARE THAT'S REPRESENTED AND ALSO INFORMATION FRONT DESK.

WE'RE MISSING A FEW OTHER CUSTOMER FACING DEPARTMENTS, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BUILDING DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THOUGH, THAT EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER PROCLAMATIONS CAN BE VIEWED AS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OURS, THAT OUR DEPARTMENT ALSO HANDLES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE LAST CALL THAT ONE OF MY REPS RECEIVED WAS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL.

IT WAS A CITIZEN THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HER HUSBAND TRYING TO SHUT HER WATER OFF, AND WE HAD TO TAKE THAT CALL.

SO SOMETIMES IT GOES BEYOND JUST SETTING UP SERVICE.

IT'S ALSO HELPING THE CUSTOMER AND UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE HUMAN ASPECT OF THAT CUSTOMER.

SO THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MONTH KIND OF JUST PLAYED RIGHT INTO THAT.

AND ALSO HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

I HAVE TO I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO CALL THEM OUT.

SO SO WE KIND OF TIED EVERYTHING IN TOGETHER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCLAMATION MEANS A LOT TO US BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE ARE THE FORGOTTEN FACE, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE THE FRONT LINES, ONLY BECAUSE THE CITY IS SO HUGE.

BUT I THINK ALL DEPARTMENTS DO A GREAT JOB OF HOLDING ALL OF THE CITY ORDINANCES THAT THIS COUNCIL MAKES, ALL OF THE POLICIES THAT CITY MANAGEMENT DOES, THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU GUYS GO TO.

YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY REACHED OR INTERACTED WITH SOMEBODY AT SOME ASPECT IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.

AND WE THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALWAYS YOU GUYS FOR ALWAYS HAVING OUR BACK.

AND WE THANK YOU, THE CITIZENS, FOR KEEPING US RUNNING.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS DON'T COME IN.

WE'RE NOT HERE. SO IT'S KIND OF A GROUP EFFORT.

SO WE THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL OF THAT.

THE COUNCIL DON'T WANT TO OF.

SO YOU LOVE ME THAT MUCH? WAS THAT RIGHT? I JUST.

IT'S. KNOW.

[PRESENTATIONS:]

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SORRY. YES, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME UP SUSAN PHILLIPS HARDISON, WHO IS REPRESENTING THE EVANS CENTER.

THE EVANS CENTER DOES SOME GREAT WORK IN IN THE CITY, AND WE WELCOME HER TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE GREAT THINGS THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE.

WELCOME. TO ME.

EL PASO.

LITTLE. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, NEIGHBORS OF PALM BAY, AND OUR CITY MANAGER AS WELL.

MY NAME IS SUSAN PHILLIPS HARDISON, AND I'M THE DIRECTOR AT EVANS CENTER.

AND I'M SO INCREDIBLY PROUD TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF EVANS AND CARRY ON THIS IMPORTANT LEGACY THAT MR. EVANS STARTED IN THE 1960S.

I'M ALSO JOINED TODAY BY LYNN BROCKWELL CARY, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBOR AT BREVARD, AND PETER MENINO.

EVANS EVANS CENTER BOARD PRESIDENT.

ONE OF THE GOALS OF PALM BAY BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IS TO IMPROVE THE LIVING CONDITIONS FOR AREA RESIDENTS AND STABILIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT AND CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS.

I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AND A REFRESHER FOR NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ON THE CITY OF PALM BAY INVESTMENT IN EVANS CENTER, LOCATED IN, AS I HAVE TO SAY IT, THE CITY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, PALM BAY ALSO IN THE BAYFRONT CRA COMMUNITY AND HOW WE FULFILL THOSE GOALS AND HOW WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO IN THE FUTURE. THE INVESTMENT MADE BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN RUNNING AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

OUR SERVICES INCLUDE A COMMUNITY CENTER, FRESH FOODS MARKET, A HOT DELI CATERING SERVICE, AND A SATELLITE BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE MEDICAL CLINIC AND OFFICE.

HERE ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE CITY OF PALM BAY MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN EVENT CENTER.

IN 2018, THE CITY INVESTED AN INITIAL $250,000 FROM THE BAYFRONT CRA FUNDS TO OUR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN.

AFTER OPENING, WE RECEIVED 20,000 IN CDBG FUNDING IN 2019 TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS AND AN ADDITIONAL 20,000 IN COVID RELATED CDBG FUNDING TO HELP IN 2020 TO HELP OFFSET OUR PAYROLL FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND KEEP OUR MARKET OPEN.

FOR ONCE AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS.

SO I ALSO I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN KIND OF.

UH, I HAVE A VIDEO.

WE CAN LEAVE, THE VIDEO CAN COME UP.

BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK REFRESHER ON THE HISTORY OF AND LEGACY MR. EVANS HAS LEFT BEHIND AND HOW THE COMMUNITY PLUS VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS RALLIED TO REOPEN EVANS IN 1965, MR. ROOSEVELT ROSS EVANS OPENED HIS SUPERMARKET IN PALM BAY AND THE MARKET BECAME A NEIGHBORHOOD PILLAR THAT PROVIDED A SAFE, ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO BUY HEALTHY FOOD AND EVEN A PLACE WHERE SCHOOL KIDS GOT HOMEWORK CHECKED BY MR. EVANS WHILE THEY WAITED AT THE BUS STOP.

AS AN ENTREPRENEUR, MR. EVANS CREATED A PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT FOR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS AND ECONOMIC STABILITY.

ADDITIONALLY, EVANS SUPERMARKET WAS AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY GATHERING SPOT.

THE COMMUNITY SUFFERED AFTER MR. EVANS PASSING, AND AS THE SITE BECAME A PLACE FOR COVER AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES THAT CONTRIBUTED TO BLIGHTED BLOCKS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY GAINED CONTROL OF THE BUILDING AND IT WAS SHUTTERED AND IT STARTED SOON AFTER.

IN 2007, A GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS FROM THE CONCESSIONS FOR COMMUNITY ACTION AT MOUNT MORIAH BAPTIST CHURCH AND POWELL SUBDIVISION NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH BEGAN FACILITATING DISCUSSIONS TO TURN THE MARKET INTO A COMMUNITY ASSET AGAIN.

THERE WAS STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE FROM THE THEN CITY MANAGER, LEE FELDMAN, AND HIS STAFF.

ALSO NEIGHBOR AT BREVARD, A NONPROFIT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GROUP, WAS INVITED TO BE A PARTNER IN 2011, AND EVANS CENTER INC BECAME A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

EVANS CENTER LEADERS ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH SURVEYS AND CONVERSATIONS, AND IN 2012, PALM BAY DEMOLISHED THE OLD CITY MARKET, MAKING A WAY FOR A NEW VISION AT EVANS CENTER, A VISION THAT WILL HONOR THE PAST AND SERVE PRESENT COMMUNITY NEEDS.

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THE FACILITY IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT IN STABILIZING THE COMMUNITY AND REBUILDING THE VISION.

MR. EVANS. MR. REBUILDING THE VISION OF MR. EVANS FOR A STRONG, PROSPEROUS AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEED AND WHY WE WANTED TO OPEN EVANS.

WE IDENTIFY THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WITHIN DRISCOLL HEIGHTS AND POWELL SUBDIVISION NEIGHBORHOOD.

65% OF HOUSEHOLDS EARN LESS THAN 35,000 PER YEAR, AND 65% OF HOUSEHOLDS ALSO REPORT HAVING ONE OR NO CARS AT HOME.

THE LACK OF ACCESS TO FRESH AND HEALTHY FOODS, NUTRITION, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE AND TRANSPORTATION ARE ALL NEEDS AND LOOKS TO MEET WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.

ANOTHER NEED EVEN MEETS IS EMPLOYMENT.

ALMOST ALL OF THE MARKET STAFF LIVE NEAR EVANS AND WE ARE A FIRST TIME EMPLOYER FOR TEENS AND SECOND CHANCE EMPLOYER FOR MANY ADULTS.

THAT BRINGS ME TO OUR PROGRAM AND SERVICES.

AND I BELIEVE THIS IS ALSO A VIDEO.

UM, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'VE DONE, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY SINCE I BEGAN IN FEBRUARY OF 2020.

MOST OF THESE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM SO JUST IN A VERY SHORT TIME, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT.

WE OFFER PROGRAMS AND FOOD INSECURITY INITIATIVES WHICH BRING A NEW QUALITY OF LIFE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

JUST THIS YEAR ALONE, WE'VE SERVED 177 CHILDREN RECEIVING MEALS THROUGH OUR SUMMER READ AND FEED PROGRAM, WHICH TOTAL ALMOST 1000 MEALS SERVICE.

I HAVE TO SEND A HUGE THANK YOU TO PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO WERE ABSOLUTELY INTEGRAL IN MAKING SURE THAT MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS HAPPENED AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAD AWESOME, AWESOME POLICE THERE THIS SUMMER.

WE ALSO HAD MORE THAN 1200 INDIVIDUALS COME THROUGH OUR DOORS AND ATTEND VARIOUS EVENTS AND PROGRAMS AT OUR COMMUNITY ROOM.

FOR THAT, I ALSO WANT TO THANK MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL WHO HAVE UTILIZED OUR ROOM FOR THEIR OWN SERVICES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS CATERING TO HOMELESS SHELTERS, CHURCHES, SPECIAL EVENTS AND MORE.

ONE PART OF MY ONE OF MY FAVORITE PROGRAMS IS OUR FOOD PRESCRIPTION PROGRAM THAT IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE.

THAT IS WHERE WHEN INDIVIDUALS GO FOR A CHECKUP AT BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE, THEY GET A KIND OF FOOD PRESCRIPTION THAT ENTITLES THEM TO $20 OF FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES AND ALSO FISH IN OUR MARKET.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF AND THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING GREAT SUCCESS WITH.

OF THOSE FOOD PRESCRIPTIONS, WE'VE HAD 128 OF THEM REDEEMED, EQUALING ABOUT $2,500 IN FREE GROCERIES PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE PROVIDED ACCESS TO HEALTHY, AFFORDABLE FOOD FOR AN AVERAGE OF 81 NEIGHBORS EACH DAY.

WE'VE USED OUR MARKET KITCHEN TO FEED 120 HOMELESS PEOPLE AT THIS COLD NIGHT SHELTER.

WE'VE EXPOSED MORE THAN 30 STUDENTS IN THE FIRST HALF OF OUR YEAR TO HEALTHY COOKING AT HOME.

DURING OUR COOKING AND COOKING WITH COLOR, COOKING WITH COLOR WORKSHOPS.

AND WE PROJECT TO SERVE MORE THAN 60 TOTAL ADULTS AND STUDENTS FOR 2020.

WE'VE ALSO PREPARED NEARLY 200 MEALS AND COUNTING TO LOCAL WOMEN'S AND CHILDREN'S SHELTERS, AND WE WERE ALSO THE HOST SITE FOR A MULTI WEEK JOB TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION PROGRAM WITH THE SUSTAINABLE WORKPLACE ALLIANCE.

THEY HAD 11 GRADUATES THIS SUMMER OR THIS SPRING.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR SENIOR BINGO.

EVERY WEDNESDAY WE OFFER FREE BREAKFAST AND A MONTHLY, MONTHLY AND SENIOR LIVING EDUCATION TRIPS DURING THEIR BINGO BREAKS.

SINCE WE SINCE OPENING, THE MARKET HAS MENTORED 17 TEENS IN THEIR FIRST JOB AND DURING COVID, EVANS BECAME A HOT MEAL DISTRIBUTION SITE, PROVIDING OVER 8000 MEALS TO NEIGHBORS IN NEED. WE HAVE FARMER'S MARKETS, WE HAVE PRODUCE, AND WE ALSO ENCOURAGE LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES, IF POSSIBLE, TO HAVE POP UP SHOPS WITHIN EVANS AS WELL.

WE'VE EVEN HAD ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SPACE COAST PLANNING AUTHORITY AND HEALTH FIRST GIVING OUT FREE HELMETS AT OUR FARMERS MARKETS.

SO ANOTHER FUN THING, WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS BABY SHOWERS AND EVEN MARRIAGE PROPOSALS AT EVANS CENTER.

AND FOR THAT, AGAIN, I'M ALSO VERY PROUD.

AT THE END OF YOUR PACKAGE, YOU'LL SEE SOME UPCOMING EVENTS THAT WE HAVE THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT TO THAT IF POSSIBLE.

AND I ALSO WANTED YOU TO HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THEMSELVES.

AND THIS IS A SHORT VIDEO THAT WE HAVE.

THERE IS A SENSE OF PRIDE IN THIS.

WE KNOW EVERYONE WHO WALKS IN THE DOOR WILL BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

AND I THINK WE ALL ENJOY EVERY BREATH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR PEOPLE IS ANOTHER REASON WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS HEALTHY FOOD IS THAT IT PROVIDES US WITH A PLATFORM TO EDUCATE FOLKS ABOUT HOW TO EAT HEALTHILY.

WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HELP.

MORGAN, A COMMUNITY CENTER IN PALM BAY NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST GOT SOME MUCH NEEDED FUNDING.

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PART OF THAT FOUNDATION, MONEY WENT TO BUY THIS VAN.

NOW THE EVANS CENTER CAN TAKE TO THE ROAD WITH POP UP MARKETS AND ALSO CATERING TO SHELTERS.

CONNIE MCCLEARY HAS LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 25 YEARS.

WELL, WE HAD TO DRIVE THE LIGHT UP TO NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHILE WALMART AND SOME OF THE ELDERLY PEOPLE AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION.

SO IT WAS KIND OF HARD FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION IN THE AREA WHO DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION.

SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS A BLESSING FOR THEM.

AND CONNIE SAYS THE EVANS CENTER HAS BECOME MORE THAN A PLACE TO GET FRESH FOOD.

IT'S BECOMING THE UNOFFICIAL MEETING PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY IN PROPERTIES PROPERTY IS EITHER WHERE STUDENTS.

KERRY HAS A SENSE OF WHAT IT IS.

WE DON'T. SO IF YOU EVER GET THE CHANCE TO STOP BY EVANS MARKET, AS SOME OF YOU HAVE, YOU'LL MEET SOME OF OUR PATRON AND PARTNERS LIKE THE ONES WE JUST WATCH AND THEY'LL REALLY GIVE YOU A FEELING OF HOME AND WHAT EVANS TRULY IS ALL ABOUT.

IN THIS SLIDE, I INCLUDED JUST A BIT OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE SERVE, AND IT'S NOT A DEEP DIVE, BUT THERE ARE SOME NOTABLE POINTS WHICH TRULY POINT OUT THE NEED FOR EVANS AND THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

IF YOU NOTICE WITH OUR FROM OUR SURVEY GATHERING, OUR READING FEED PROGRAM THIS YEAR SERVED 100% EXTREMELY LOW TO LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY STUDENTS AND OUR COOKING CLASSES AS WELL.

WE SERVE EXTREMELY LOW TO LOW INCOME, WHICH IS 80% OF OUR STUDENTS, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE 20% OF OUR COOKING.

WHAT COLOR CLASSES ARE HOMELESS.

SO I DO HAVE SOME MORE OF THAT.

THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS, IF YOU EVER AGAIN WANTED TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT, YOU CAN SEND ME AN EMAIL OR YOU CAN STOP BY.

I'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE AREA TO BRING SERVICES AND BRING DIGNITY WITH SERVICES AS WELL TO TO FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD TREMENDOUS STRIDES IN A SUCH A SHORT TIME, EVANS CENTER REMAINS IN A STABILIZATION PROCESS, OPENING LESS THAN A YEAR BEFORE COVID STRUCK.

IT HAS ALREADY HAD A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE OF GETTING THE COMMUNITY MARKET UP AND RUNNING.

MARKET CUSTOMER SALES HELP, BUT NOT ABLE TO COVER ALL COSTS OF OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

SMALL MARKETS LIKE OURS DON'T GET THE ECONOMIC SKILLS OF LIKE LARGE STORES LIKE WALMART DO.

ALSO, AS A NONPROFIT, WE HAVE A NON REVENUE GENERATING ACTIVITIES SUCH AS COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. AS THIS CHART SHOWS, CUSTOMER INPUT ACCOUNTS FOR 37% OF MARKET EXPENSES.

WE LOST GROUND IN 2020 DUE TO COVID, BUT BEGAN TO GAIN GROUND LAST YEAR.

SO OUR BUDGET IS MET BY A COMBINATION OF CUSTOMER SALES GRANTS, INDIVIDUALS CONTRIBUTIONS AND ANNUAL SPECIAL EVENTS.

THAT BRINGS ME TO OUR NEED.

AND AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE, THERE ARE THREE CRITICAL ACTIONS THAT EVANS IS EMBARKING UPON, WHICH IS SECURING SUFFICIENT FUNDING.

AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT.

LISTED IN OUR FIRST BULLET POINT, GROWING OUR MARKET BUSINESS SO THE PERCENTAGE CONTRIBUTED BY CUSTOMERS INCREASES AND STRENGTHENING OUR BOARD.

WE OBVIOUSLY WELCOME ANY SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS FROM OUR CITY AND FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

THIS IS JUST A LIST OF SUPPORTERS WHO HAVE HELPED US NOT ONLY OPEN EVANS BUT CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SO SUPPORT FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS WELL.

AND AS I WAS CREATING THIS PRESENTATION, I TOOK A LOOK BACK AT OUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE CITY BEFORE WE EVEN BROKE GROUND.

AND ONE OF THE STATEMENTS MADE WAS, AND EVANS CENTER WILL DELIVER A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC BENEFIT.

I WILL SAY I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT EVANS CENTER HAS DELIVERED A PUBLIC SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND PEOPLE PATRONIZING OUR BUSINESS EVERY DAY.

SO I HOPE YOU ALL HELP US SPREAD THE WORD AND JOIN US ON OUR MISSION TO ELIMINATE FOOD INSECURITY AND INCREASE THE STANDARD OF HEALTH IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I LEFT YOU ALL WITH A COPY OF OUR PRESENTATION, A BROCHURE ABOUT EVANS, AND I ALSO INVITE YOU TO OUR MOTOWN FUNDRAISER, WHICH WILL BE HELD AT 50 ON DECEMBER 8TH, AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING A SOLD OUT SHOW.

SO ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR COLLABORATION, SPONSORS OR VOLUNTEERS WOULD BE AWESOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. SO I KNOW THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME SOME COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN.

SO PLEASE STAND BY COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. I JUST WANT TO SAY I USE THE CENTER FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES AND I'M THERE ALMOST EVERY WEEK BUYING LUNCH, SO THEY REALLY GOT SOME GOOD FOOD THERE.

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THAT'S ALL RIGHT, BUT FORGIVE YOU.

I WAS THERE. I WAS THERE.

SO IT'S NOT HEALTHY. EATING IS WHAT YOU HEAR.

IT'S SOME GOOD SOUL FOOD.

IT'S GOOD SOUL FOOD. YOU KNOW, I HAD SOME COLLARD GREENS YESTERDAY, RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S HOME COOKED.

IT'S HOME COOKED FOOD THAT'S HOME COOKED IS HEALTHY FOOD THAT I DON'T EAT BETTER AND IS CHEAPER THAN GOING TO MCDONALD'S OR ANY FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.

BUT BESIDES THAT, THE WORK THAT YOU DID, Y'ALL CHANGED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT REALLY DID. IT CHANGED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND AND EVERY TIME I WALK THROUGH THE DOORS, I FEEL AT HOME AND THE WORKERS TREATED EVERY CUSTOMERS THAT COME THROUGH THERE WITH RESPECT AND COURTESY AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.

GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE.

I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU GOT SOME GREAT PEOPLE WORKING THERE AND YOUR SENIORS ARE KIND OF TOUGH.

YES, THEY ARE.

I HELPED THEM. YOU KNOW, I RAN IN A COUNTER WITH THE SENIORS AND AND ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN CITY COUNCIL, THEY TAG ME REAL GOOD.

BUT I LOVE GOING THERE, THOUGH.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE.

COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I WOULD ECHO EVERYTHING COUNCILMAN FOSTER JUST MENTIONED.

YEAH, HIM AND I, WE WANT HIM MORE THAN ME FOR SURE.

BUT. BUT SEVERAL TIMES I'VE BEEN THERE, AND THEN OFTENTIMES I GO IN TRYING TO BE INCOGNITO.

I'VE ALWAYS GOT RECOGNIZED COUNCILMAN FELIX.

AND THERE GOES THE CONVERSATION.

BUT. BUT IT'S GREAT.

LIKE I SAID, I HAVE AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN SUPERMARKET, SO IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING WHEN I GO THERE.

I'M LOOKING FOR THINGS AND OPPORTUNITY.

MAYBE I CAN SHARE SOMEDAY.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU, MAYBE SHARE, SHARE SOME IDEAS AND SUCH.

BUT TRULY, TRULY WHAT? IT'S A GAME CHANGER FOR THE AREA.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

ONE MORE THING. I'M SORRY, DONNY.

THE POLICE DO SHOW UP THERE A LOT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THE CHIEF IS.

I SEE THEY GO THERE TO EAT ON THEIR TIME OFF AND THEY.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THERE AND AND AND A LOT OF CITY WORKERS GO THERE TO.

ABSOLUTELY. I ENCOURAGE PALM BAY TO JUST GO CHECK IT OUT, BUY SOMETHING OR AT LEAST GO FOR LUNCH.

YOU WON'T REGRET IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH.

THIS. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT.

AND I REMEMBER IN 2019 WHEN IT HAPPENED, BUT I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT A LOT OF TIME BEFORE THEN.

AND I REMEMBER THE EVANS CENTER PRIOR TO THAT.

SO TO REVAMP IT IN THE WAY THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE IS AMAZING.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING AND SPEAKING TO US TO KEEP US ABREAST ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW CITY OF PALM BAY IS LOOKING AT THEIR RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

YOU KNOW, IN A AREA THAT WAS A FOOD DESERT.

SO WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, ANY IDEAS? YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF IS MORE THAN READY AND WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE, MAKE HAPPEN.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN, SUSIE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I AGREE.

EVANS EVANSTON HAS DELIVERED A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO AS PALM BAY, WE'VE CONTINUED TO INVEST IN THAT AREA.

WE JUST DID A FULL DEATH RECLAMATION ON FLORIDA AVENUE IN FRONT OF THE EVANS CENTER, AS WELL AS THE DRISCOLL HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, ALL NEW ROADS OVER THERE.

SO THE PARTNERSHIP IS IT REALLY IS A GOOD THING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR US AS WELL.

YES, MA'AM. I LOVE THE COLLABORATION TODAY.

WE HONORED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND I'VE BEEN TO A FEW EVENTS AT YOUR CENTER REGARDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THE CHALLENGE, YES, I'LL ADMIT.

BUT THE THING ABOUT YOUR CHILD IS I GAINED REALLY QUICKLY A FEW POUNDS, LIKE.

LIKE COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

DOES HAZEL STILL WORK THERE? YES, SHE DOES. OK OVER THERE.

MAKE SURE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH LARRY MCINTYRE, FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN.

JUST MADE THE COMMENT, LARRY, YOU AND I, WE COACH LITTLE LEAGUE TOGETHER AND HERE WE ARE, GRAY HAIRED AND AND NO.

NO, I WAS I WASN'T GOING TO GO THERE.

YES. BUT OUR OUR CHILDREN WERE NOT EVEN WHAT WERE THEY, SEVEN, SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS OLD.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SIR.

CARRY ON. MY NAME IS LARRY MCINTYRE.

I LIVE AT 1829 PLANTATION CIRCLE IN PALM BAY.

TODAY I AM HERE FOR BETTER SCHOOLS OR BREVARD POLITICAL COMMITTEE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VOTE YES FOR HIGHER TEACHER PAY AND STUDENT ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.

THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS PLACED AN ADVISORY MILLAGE REFERENDUM ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH BALLOT.

OUR COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TASKED TO GET WORD OUT ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE AND TO RAISE FUNDS TO HELP IT PASS.

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I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THE STATE, AND IT'S RANKED ABOUT 10TH.

BUT I'M A LITTLE LITTLE BIASED.

I THINK WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOL SYSTEMS AROUND.

THIS REFERENDUM WOULD HELP INCREASE PAY FOR TEACHERS AND OTHER STAFF PROFESSIONALS LIKE BUS DRIVERS, CAFETERIA WORKERS AFTER CARE STAFF TO HELP MAKE PAY COMPETITIVE WITH SURROUNDING SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF TEACHERS TO BOTH INDIAN RIVER, ORANGE, SEMINOLE AND VOLUSIA COUNTIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE MILITIAS AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY THEIR TEACHERS MORE MONEY.

IT WOULD HELP FUND TECHNICAL TRAINING FOR STUDENTS, PREPARING THEM FOR HIGH LEVEL JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY.

OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS 61 TECHNICAL TRAINING JOBS THAT YOU CAN GET IN HIGH SCHOOL, EITHER CERTIFICATES OR OTHER INFORMATION THAT WILL GET THEM ON TO THE TRADES. IT WILL HELP US RECRUIT AND RETAIN THE BEST TEACHERS IN BREVARD COUNTY, BRING MODERNIZED TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR CLASSROOMS, SUPPORT IMPROVING THIRD GRADE READING SCORES BY BRINGING MORE INSTRUCTORS IN FOR THOSE YOUNGER STUDENTS.

OUR SHERIFF BASES HIS JAIL CELL NEEDS IN THE FUTURE ON WHAT THIRD GRADE READING TEST ARE.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE KIDS READING AT A LEVEL.

HE LITERALLY GOES AND FIGURES OUT WHAT THAT IS.

AND SHERIFFS DO THIS ALL OVER THE STATE BASED ON THIRD GRADE READING LEVELS.

THE LOCAL FUNDS RAISED WILL REMAIN UNDER LOCAL CONTROL.

NONE OF THIS MONEY WILL GO TO TALLAHASSEE OR D.C.

AND THE STATE CANNOT DICTATE HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT.

I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THE FUNDING IS RIDICULOUSLY CONFUSING.

AN INDEPENDENT CITIZEN'S OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WATCHES OVER THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS TO MAKE SURE EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IS WHERE IT'S MEANT TO GO.

THE ONE MILL AD REFORM IS PASSED.

IT WILL BE FOR FOUR YEARS.

THE STATE RECENTLY PASSED, STARTING TO RAISE STARTING TEACHER PAY TO 47,000.

WE HAVE TEACHERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR TEN YEARS THAT ARE ONLY USING MAKING 2000 MORE THAN THAT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. IT MEANS A ONE MILL FOR AN AVERAGE HOUSE OF VALUE OF 153,000, IT WOULD BE AN EXTRA $153 A YEAR. SO I'M ASKING THE CITY TO START LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, LARRY. NOW, WHILE I HAVE YOU THERE, I HAVE A QUESTION.

ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN'S A MEDICAL DOCTOR.

IS THAT CORRECT? SHE WAS A VALEDICTORIAN AT BAYSIDE HIGH.

SHE'S AN EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR.

OUTSTANDING. YES, SIR.

CARRY ON. LARRY, I MET YOU LAST NIGHT, AND YOU AND I INVITED YOU HERE.

AND I DO SUPPORT THIS.

AND I HOPE THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN OUR SCHOOLS.

AND. AND YOU'RE DOING THIS ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS.

CORRECT? UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING OUR KIDS IN OUR SCHOOLS.

I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, LARRY. GOD BLESS YOU, BOB.

BILL PATTON, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR KIM DELGADO.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE TWO ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IN HER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE, IT WAS BEEN STRICKEN FROM THE AGENDA, WHICH WAS POLICE TRAVEL.

IF THERE'S ANY REASON WHY WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY FOR TRAVEL, THIS WAS THE PRIMARY REASON POLICE.

FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE ACCREDITED.

THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT REASON FOR TRAVEL.

I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE NOT TRAVELING NOW.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GO WHERE THERE'S NOTHING ADD ANYMORE BECAUSE THE STORM TOOK IT AWAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT AS A GOOD REASON FOR CANCELING IT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL REALIZED THAT WE REALIZE WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DOING AND BE A POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS SIZE WITH THIS PROBLEMS AND STILL BE ACCREDITED POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.

AND I WANT TO SAY BRAVO ZOO TO THEM.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE AGENDA REVISIONS ON ON THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE OF HOW MANY THINGS GET ADDED LATER.

I THINK THE AGENDA DIDN'T COME OUT THIS WEEK UNTIL MONDAY AT 745 AT NIGHT.

IT'S A MASSIVE AGENDA TO GO THROUGH.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I DO GO THROUGH IT AND I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PAGES, BUT IT WAS 800 AND SOME PAGES LONG.

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AND SO I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE AGENDA REVISIONS THAT WERE ADDED LATER.

SO I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE AGENDA REVISIONS DOWN TO A MINIMUM.

BUT IF YOU SAW HOW MANY, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A FIVE PAGE ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDAS THIS TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIRMAN.

WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE AGENDA REVISIONS AND THE TAXING OPPORTUNITY OF THE TIME FRAME OF EVERYTHING? CERTAINLY. AND MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYONE.

THAT CERTAINLY WAS NOT OUR INTENTION.

AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO NOT HAVE AGENDA REVISIONS.

LAST MINUTE GIVE FOLKS TIME TO REVIEW.

LAST WEEK, THOUGH, DUE TO HURRICANE IAN, OUR STAFF, WE WERE NOT IN THE OFFICE FOR BASICALLY TWO AND A HALF DAYS AND LAST WEEK WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DURING THE TIME WE WOULD HAVE WORKED ON FINALIZING THE AGENDA AND GET EVERYTHING BUTTONED UP.

SO YOU'RE CORRECT THERE WAS A DELAY, BUT IT WAS REALLY DUE TO THINGS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL AND STAFF WORKED HARD TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, GET IT FINALIZED, GET IT PUSHED OUT ON MONDAY, FOUND THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS WE STILL HAD TO RELEASE THAT DIDN'T GET PUSHED OUT ON MONDAY.

SO CONTINUING TO MAKE THE EFFORT, THOUGH, TO AVOID THOSE LAST MINUTE REVISIONS.

THANK YOU. BUT YOUR COMMENTS ARE DULY NOTED, MASTER CHIEF.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE REMISS.

I KNOW. DEPUTY MAYOR, ARE YOU GOING TO CALL SOMEONE UP? BUT I WANTED TO JUST TO MENTION IN OUR AUDIENCE TODAY, WE HAVE A FORMER CITY COUNCILMAN.

BUT NOT ONLY THAT, HE WAS THE NOSE GUARD FOR THE FLORIDA GATORS AND BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER ROBIN FISHER.

HOW ARE YOU, ROBIN? THANKS. THANKS FOR JOINING US.

GOD BLESS YOU, PASTOR KEN.

KEN DELGADO WON FIVE FOR ANGELO ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

GOOD EVENING. IT IS SO REFRESHING TO HEAR ALL THAT THE FAMILY OF FAMILIES CALL THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WHOLE WORLD, HELPING EACH OTHER, WORKING WITH EACH OTHER, THE SMILES, THE FELLOWSHIP, THE JOY THAT'S PRESENTED HERE.

IT'S JUST WONDERFUL.

JUST WONDERFUL. SO MY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL.

YOUR GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB TODAY.

AGAIN, I ONLY BRING A THOUGHT TO CONSIDER AND TODAY IT'S WORDS FROM JESUS CHRIST AND IT'S FOUND IN JOHN CHAPTER 15 AND VERSE THREE.

IT'S JUST ONE ONE SENTENCE, BUT I THINK IT CAN BE VERY IMPACTFUL.

IT SAYS, NOW YOU ARE CLEAN THROUGH THE WORD WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN UNTO YOU.

SO MANY PEOPLE READ THE WORD OF GOD.

CALLED THE BIBLE TO STUDY THE BIBLE.

I THINK IF WE CHANGE THAT AND WE READ THE WORD OF GOD TO STUDY OURSELVES.

TO FIND OUT ABOUT OURSELVES AS WE READ THROUGH THE BIBLE.

NOW YOU ARE CLEAN THROUGH THE WORD THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU.

THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THE WORD OF GOD HAS DONE FOR ME.

IT'S CLEANED UP ME BEING A FATHER.

IT'S CLEANED UP ME BEING A HUSBAND.

IT'S CLEANED ME UP WHEN I WAS IN THE MARKETPLACE.

I CLEANED ME UP ON HOW I DID BUSINESS.

IT CLEANED ME UP ON HOW I THOUGHT IT CLEANED UP STINKING THINKING.

IT REPLACED IT WITH GOD THINKING.

AND SO I JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE.

THE FAMILY OF FAMILIES AND EVERYBODY WHO CAN HEAR THIS, THIS MESSAGE THAT.

WHEN YOU READ THE BIBLE.

READ IT FOR YOURSELF THAT IT MAY SPEAK TO YOU BECAUSE WE ALL NEED SOME CLEANING UP, I BELIEVE.

AND IF WE SAY WE DON'T NEED CLEANING UP, THEN YOU NEED TO READ IT ABOUT LYING, BECAUSE WE ALL NEED SOME CLEANING UP.

AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LET THE WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST IN THE NEW TESTAMENT SPEAK TO EACH ONE OF US AND LET THE WORD DO WHAT JESUS CHRIST SAID FOR HIS DISCIPLES.

NOW YOU ARE CLEAN BECAUSE OF THE WORDS THAT I'M SPEAKING.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LASTLY, ROBERT STICE.

ROBERT STYLES, 1796 WHEN BROOKE ARRIVED SOUTHEAST ON BAY.

GOOD EVENING. HAD TWO COMMENTS.

ONE IS ABOUT SAFETY WAS AT THE ZONING MEETING LAST NIGHT.

LET ME BACK UP ONE SECOND.

COMING THROUGH THESE DOORS, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A SCAN METAL DETECTOR.

YOU MAKE SURE RIGHTLY SO, MAYOR, THAT WE'RE NOT BREACHING THE AREA BACK HERE AND LEAVING THE DOORS OPEN.

I'M SITTING IN A ZONING MEETING AND I'M THINKING WE ARE IN A VIOLENT COUNTRY.

I WAS OUT IN COLORADO WHEN HE HAD THE SHOOTINGS IN THE MOVIE THEATERS.

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WE HAVE CHURCH SHOOTINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SECURITY.

WHEN I'M SITTING IN HERE DURING THE ZONING MEETING, HOW CAN WE TIGHTEN THAT UP? AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVE A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT, YOU'RE STILL NOT ALLOWED TO BRING THAT INTO A GOVERNMENT BUILDING.

THAT BEING SAID, WE EVEN HAVE A CITIZENS PATROL.

PLEASE CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SITTING HERE, ANYBODY CAN COME IN AND.

YOU KNOW, NOBODY WOULD BE SURPRISED TO SEE SO MUCH OF IT GOING ON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THE CITY AT RISK.

THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING.

THANK YOU. IS THAT IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

[NEW BUSINESS: (Part 1 of 2)]

AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

MADAM SHERMAN. OH, YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER FOR THE VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL ON OCTOBER 15, 2022.

FRED POPPI REGIONAL PARK.

YOU HEARD ABOUT IT EARLIER IN THE EVENING.

SO ESSENTIALLY THEY DID APPLY UNDER THE NORMAL CO-SPONSORSHIP PROCESS.

THE VALUE OF THE CO-SPONSORSHIP THEY'RE REQUESTING IS TWO PARTS.

ONE IS THE THE THE COST OF THE STAFF THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING THE EVENT.

AND SO THAT DOLLAR VALUE IS $3,490.

ADDITIONALLY, THE FEES THAT WE WOULD NOT TAKE IN BECAUSE WE WOULD WAIVE THE FEES AS PART OF THE CO-SPONSORSHIP, WOULD BE VALUED AT $2,695, AND THOSE WOULD REPRESENT NORMALLY CHARGED FEES FOR RENTALS, SPECIAL EVENTS, STAGE RENTAL, ELECTRICAL AND BLEACHER FEES.

SO THIS IS AN EVENT THAT HAS HAPPENED FOR, I THINK, OVER TEN YEARS IN THE CITY.

WE ARE HAPPY TO BRING THIS CO-SPONSORSHIP TO YOU BECAUSE OF THE VALUE THAT THE EVENT DOES BRING.

IT DOES SUPPORT OUR CO-SPONSORSHIP POLICY GOALS, WHICH INCLUDE ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING FOR SOME OR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. ADVANCING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO AND PRIDE IN BEING A MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY AND PROMOTING CULTURAL AND ARTISTIC AWARENESS WITHIN THE CITY.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

BILL BATON. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THE PREVIOUS REQUESTS FROM ANOTHER GROUP.

OR. SPONSORSHIP FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

A COMMENT WAS MADE THAT SAYS WHILE THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET.

OH, WELL, ONCE THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET, THAT MEANS YOUR POLICY HAS BEEN MET.

SO WHAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT GETS DISAPPROVED? WHERE IS GOING TO BE YOUR CRITERIA TO DISAPPROVE A REQUEST? IS IT NOW BECAUSE YOU'VE STARTED APPROVING EVERYTHING THAT EVERYTHING WILL NOW AUTOMATICALLY BE APPROVED? BECAUSE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET.

HUH? THIS DISC REQUEST IS FOR A TOTAL OF $6,185, SOME IN, SOME IN BENEFITS, SOME IN WAIVED FEES, WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS CHARITABLE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY.

IT'S EASY TO BE CHARITABLE WHEN THE MONEY YOU'RE GIVING AWAY BELONGS TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

REMEMBER THAT CHARITY STARTS AT HOME WHEN IT HURTS YOU TO GIVE IT.

THAT IS REAL CHARITY.

WHEN THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE GIVING BELONGS TO SOMEBODY ELSE, THAT'S NOT REALLY CHARITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, EMOTION SO MOVED AND EMOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SECOND TAKEN BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, MAYOR, IS THIS SONG AS IT WAS STATED, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TEN YEARS.

SO THE WAY WE FORMALIZED EVERYTHING WITH THE CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST, YOU'RE JUST SEEING EVERY DOLLAR LIKE IT'S BEEN HAPPENING, BUT YOU'RE SEEING EVERY DOLLAR AND WHAT IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR.

TO THAT POINT, I DO THINK THAT POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE WE CAN LOOK AT A FEW THINGS WITH THE CO-SPONSORSHIP POLICY TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, BOTH PARTIES ARE CONTRIBUTING EQUALLY LIKE WE SEE WITH OTHER CO SPONSORSHIPS.

SO SO THAT'S IT, MAYOR.

BUT THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT EVENT, GREAT FOOD.

SO I'M EXCITED FOR IT AND THAT'S IT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TAG ON ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, DEPUTY MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT FEES, BUT OTHERWISE THE PARK IS JUST SITTING THERE, RIGHT?

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BUT THE PARTNERSHIP IS IN THE VALUE THAT THAT PROGRAM, WHAT VIVA BREVARD IS BRINGING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

THAT'S THE INDICATOR, RIGHT? THAT'S THE INTANGIBLE OF BRINGING DIFFERENT CULTURES AND DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO GATHER.

IT'S DEFINITELY IN ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AND HOW WHAT PRICE DO YOU PUT ON THAT? IS THERE A PRICE THAT YOU COULD PUT ON THAT? NOW, I KNOW THAT I'M BIASED WHEN IT COMES TO THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA EVERYONE HERE KNOWS, BUT THE VALUE THAT THEY BRING IS IS AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL, RIGHT ALTOGETHER.

BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY AN INTANGIBLE VALUE OF ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE SEE IN THESE IN THESE PROGRAMS. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

I KNOW COUNCILMAN FOSTER HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.

YEAH. YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU TOOK SOME OF THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH, BUT.

I WOULD LIKE IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE CITY MANAGER FOR A PROPERTY TO COME UP.

TO ADD TO MY COMMENTS BECAUSE I WANT TO.

IS THAT OKAY? MADAM SHERMAN? YES, SIR. DIRECTOR POPPY.

HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION.

I MEAN, WE DO THESE EVENTS YEAR AND YEAR OUT.

AM I CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND BEFORE I EVEN CAME ON COUNCIL, WE WAS DOING THESE EVENTS.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE JUST STOPPED? WE STOPPED DOING A CHRISTMAS PARADE.

WE STOPPED DOING VIVA BREVARD.

WHAT KIND OF COMPLAINTS YOU GET.

ABOUT THAT. JUST.

WELL, YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, RIGHT? AND I THINK AS A AS A GROUP AND INDIVIDUALLY, WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM ALL OF YOU IS THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU LIKE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE, BUT THERE'S AN ENCOURAGEMENT FOR US TO DO MORE. THIS PARTICULAR EVENT I'VE DEALT WITH HERE FROM THE VERY INCEPTION, IT BRINGS A LOT OF GOOD TO THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE JUDGING.

I THINK TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY QUALITY OF LIFE, RIGHT? WHAT WHAT THOSE EVENTS MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY.

OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE LARGER ONES, THE EXTRAVAGANZA, THE HOLIDAY PARADE, 4TH OF JULY, THEY DRAW A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST.

SO IF YOU STOP DOING THOSE THINGS, THERE WOULD BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, IN MY OPINION.

AND WE GET PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY THAT COMES TO THESE EVENTS, AM I CORRECT? YES, SIR, A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SO IT KIND OF PUTS US ON THE MAP OF.

YOU KNOW, ONE MIGHT BE EXPECTING US TO DO THE VIVE VIVE OF ART EVENT FESTIVAL, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A LATINO HERITAGE.

THAT MIGHT MAYBE OFFEND A GROUP OF PEOPLE.

CORRECT. WE JUST. STOP DOING THIS.

AND SO IN OUR WOULD YOU CALL IT OUR EVENT SPONSORSHIP? IT'S GOT A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IN A CALENDAR YEAR.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? YES, SIR.

RIGHT. SO WE EXCEEDED THAT LIMIT.

WE CAN SPONSOR NOBODY.

RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU AS A COUNSEL, RIGHT? RIGHT. BILL IS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME MORE MONEY, BUT WE SET ASIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPONSORSHIP.

AM I CORRECT? I THINK YEAH.

I THINK WE SET A CAP AMOUNT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

AND THEN. PER PER EVENT.

PER EVENT? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY COMMENT.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO MAKE A.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK A LOT HAS BEEN YOU GUYS PRETTY MUCH YOUR COVER.

MAYOR, YOU COVERED IT.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER AS WELL.

JUST WANTING TO ADD SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE BEING GIVEN.

UNDERSTAND, THESE ARE THESE ARE IN-KIND.

IT'S NOT THE CITY GIVING HARD CASH MONEY TO THAT ORGANIZATION.

THEY JUST IN-KIND SERVICES, ESPECIALLY HALF OF THIS SIX, $6,000.

IT'S EQUIPMENT THAT'S SITTING THERE.

WE WE INVEST IN THESE EQUIPMENTS FOR PURPOSE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, UNDERSTAND PART OF THAT MONEY, HALF OF IT, THIS EQUIPMENT EQUIPMENT'S SITTING THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE ON THAT THIS EQUIPMENT GOT TO BE USED.

AND BY THE WAY, THE MORE THEY USE, THE MORE THEY STAY IN SHAPE.

SO WE WANT TO PUT THEM TO USE THAT'S WHY WE INVEST THE FUNDING TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

SO I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE.

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ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OBVIOUSLY, YOUR.

YOUR PROGRAM IS APPROVED.

CONGRATULATIONS, RESIDENTS.

SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

AND DEPUTY MAYOR.

YES, MA'AM. I REFERRED TO MRS. SUZANNE SO SHE CAN ELABORATE ON THE SLIGHT REVISION.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

YEAH. SO THIS IS THE, UH, SECOND FINAL READING FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.

THE CHANGES THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE ARE WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL LAST TIME, WHICH IS THAT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT SHALL NOT ACCEPT OR PROCESS ANY APPLICATIONS FOR FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS, CHANGING THE LAND USE TO RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY AFTER SEPTEMBER SIX, 2022, EXCLUDING PROJECTS THAT HAVE COMPLETED A PRE APPLICATION MEETING ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER SIX, 2022.

SO THAT LANGUAGE CHANGE HAS BEEN ADDED IN THERE TO REFLECT THE MOVE FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER SIX AND TO REFLECT THAT IF THEY HAD COMPLETED PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS, THEY WOULD CONTINUE ON IN THE PROCESS AND THAT LANGUAGE IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE REVISED ORDINANCE.

AND AS STATED BEFORE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MORATORIUM ORDINANCE IS TO LIMIT CHANGES TO LAND USE OR ZONING RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS ONLY.

IT DOES NOT AFFECT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, DOES NOT AFFECT INFILL SCATTERED LOT DEVELOPMENTS.

IT ONLY AFFECTS LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS SEEKING TO DO ONLY RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY.

IT DOES NOT AFFECT COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL, AND THE INTENTION OF THIS MORATORIUM IS FOR BASICALLY A SIX MONTH PERIOD TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND POSITION THE CITY WELL FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES THAT WE ARE DOING IN THE NORTHWEST AND THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANTS OF THE CITY, AS WELL AS OUR WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE ON THIS ITEM.

ALSO. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER. WHEN? WHEN DO THE SIX MONTHS AND YOU HAVE A DATE? IT'S IN FEBRUARY.

IN THE FEBRUARY. OR IN THE FEBRUARY.

AND THE FEBRUARY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? FROM STAFF. ALSO, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? HE WENT IN THE AUDIENCE WHICH TO SPEAK FOR, AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND AS FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED, REVISED ORDINANCE 2022 100 FINAL READING SECOND ON A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FELIX.

SO I'VE GOT SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SAY.

SO AS YOU KNOW, WE DID WHAT THIS IDENTIFIED, AND I'M NOT PART OF THIS ITEM AT THIS POINT, BUT WHAT THIS IDENTIFIED TO ME WAS THAT OUR POLICY SHOULD BE HOMED IN BECAUSE I WENT THROUGH A RECONSIDERATION ON ONE.

AND THEN WE SAW THIS JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE VOTED AGAINST IT.

SO I'LL BE BRINGING THIS UP BACK IN OUR ON THE MY REPORTS TO SEE IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER TO HONE IN ON OUR POLICIES A LITTLE MORE SO THAT WE DON'T WE'RE ALL SINGING FROM THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY YOU, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSE PASSES 3 TO 2.

MADAM SMITH.

FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBERS TWO, THREE, FOUR, EIGHT, TEN, 12, 14, 15 AND 17.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS IN A COUNCIL ESTATE, HIS OR HER NAME, AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

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THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59 103. EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

ANY SPEAKER MIGHT BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY FOR A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

AUGUST 2022.

THAT'S 101.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA GRANTED APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A PROPOSED REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER TO BE KNOWN AS THREE FOURTHS MIXED USE A U. AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL BREVARD COUNTY AND ESSER SUBURB, SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL BREVARD COUNTY ZONING WITH A TENTATIVE ZONING OF RHC REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD, IN THE VICINITY EAST OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND WEST OF MELBOURNE.

TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL EIGHT AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A FILING OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU. JAKE WEISS, THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PROJECT MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE.

WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS AND JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.

JUST TODAY WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT COMBINING THINGS LIKE LIFT STATION DRIVEWAY POTENTIALLY OFF THE NEW PARKWAY EXTENSION TO THE SOUTH THAT OUR PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO DO.

SO THAT'S LESS MAINTENANCE LONG TERM FOR THE CITY, BETTER INTERCONNECTION WITH THE WATER SYSTEMS, FOR A BETTER OVERALL SYSTEM AND LESS POINTS OF CONFLICT FOR TRAFFIC, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM THIS COUNCIL AND Z AND STAFF AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND ANY QUESTION, ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

NO CARDS. OKAY.

CLOSING TO THE PUBLIC AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

MOTION APPROVED ONE. IT'S 2020 2-0 101 FIRST READING.

SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FELIX.

OKAY. I GOT MOTION BY JOHNSON, SECONDED BY FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER THREE ORDERS 2022, DASH 102.

AN ORDER TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA APPROVED A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS CHAPARRAL PHASES FOUR AND FIVE AND PRD PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD, WEST OF BRENTWOOD, LATE SUBDIVISION AND MELBA TILGHMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT AND NOW NINE ARE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU.

THIS WILL BE A BUSY NIGHT FOR US.

HIS ADDRESS IS 2651.

WANTS TO GET A BOULEVARD. JAKE Y IS A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

I DO HAVE A HANDOUT, IF THAT'S OKAY.

JUST TO HELP WITH CLARITY.

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THIS PROJECT IS CALLED CHAPARRAL.

IT WAS MASTER PLAN AND UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED PREVIOUSLY BY COUNCIL.

WE'VE BEEN BUILDING IT PHASE BY PHASE.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT IS THE LAST TWO PHASES OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR 796 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

IT'S 204 ACRES AND PHASES ONE AND TWO ARE COMPLETELY CONSTRUCTED, HOMES GOING UP AND PEOPLE MOVING IN, WHICH IS PRETTY EXCITING BECAUSE THIS PROJECT STARTED OVER 15 YEARS AGO.

PHASE THREE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE TONIGHT IS PHASES FOUR AND FIVE.

SO IN THAT FIRST SHEET, YOU SEE PHASES ONE AND TWO, AND THEN PHASE THREE IS THE ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE MIDDLE.

AND THE YELLOW AT THE FAR LEFT SIDE OF THE SHEET IS PHASES FOUR AND FIVE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

AND THEN THE SECOND SHEET IS JUST PHASES FOUR AND FIVE, AND IT GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF THE OVERALL PLAN FOR WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST.

THEY WERE VERY VOCAL AND COOPERATIVE WORKING WITH US.

THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE WE HAD TOO MUCH DIRT.

IT WAS BLOWING INTO THEIR BACKYARDS OR SECTION OF FENCE FELL DOWN.

WE EVEN PROPOSED AND COMMITTED TO INSTALLING FENCING TO MAKE A BETTER BUFFER EARLIER ON OUR PROJECT, AND WE HAD DONE SO.

SO THEY'VE BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH US AND HAVE BEEN VERY COMPLIMENTARY.

AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THEY ALL HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE THEY DO CALL.

WE ARE ALSO ADDING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THE FUTURE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AND DOING SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT SECTION OF MALABAR ROAD.

THE PROJECT DID PREVIOUSLY PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 50 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY ALONG ITS NORTH BORDER FOR THAT ANTICIPATED FUTURE WIDENING OF MALABAR ROAD AS WELL.

WE EXCEED ALL OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND REC.

WE ALREADY PUT IN A SMALLER RECREATION AREA AND PHASE TWO FOR THE FIRST OF THE RESIDENTS MOVING IN.

AND THEN THIS PHASE HAS A MUCH, MUCH BIGGER, LARGER, OVERSIZE RECREATION RECREATIONAL AREA AS WELL.

WE HAVE OUR DISCHARGE GOES INTO THE MELBOURNE TOMB AND CANAL SYSTEM.

SO AS THIS BOARD HAS HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES, THEY HAVE MORE STRINGENT STANDARDS.

SO WE HAVE A MUCH OVERDESIGNED STORMWATER TREATMENT SYSTEM VERSUS YOUR TYPICAL JUST CITY AND ST JOHN'S PROJECTS.

SO THIS FINAL PHASE IS 136 OF THE 204 ACRES.

YOU CAN SEE BY ALL THE BLUE ON THAT SECOND SHEET THAT WE HAVE LARGE OVERSIZE STORM PONDS, THE WHITE ONE IN THE MIDDLE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG LARGE POND.

SO WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF OUR LOTS BACKING UP TO THESE.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT LARGE RECREATION AREAS, THE DARKER GREEN THAT YOU SEE THERE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A POOL AND A CLUBHOUSE TOT LOT, DOG PARK WALKING TRAILS, PLAY FIELDS, JUST AN EXPANSIVE GROUP OF AMENITIES FOR IT. WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY STAFF THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND FOR THESE PHASES FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY NEIGHBOR OBJECTIONS AT ALL TO DATE.

SO THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

WE DID HAVE STAFF SUPPORT, UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FROM P AND Z, AND IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, JUST A QUICK QUESTION, MR. WISE. DO YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT AGREE TO ALL THE STAFF'S COMMENTS WITH YOU? ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS.

YES, AND THAT'S A LOT.

I'VE BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY.

WOW, THAT'S A LOT OF HOUSES THERE.

A LOT. BUT YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

AND IT'S FUNNY THAT ON MY WAY HERE, WHEN I PULLED OUT.

OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT NEXT TO IT. IT IS.

IT WAS A BAD ACCIDENT.

AND. VOLUBLE.

ROVE WAS BACKED UP FROM THIS LOCATION ALMOST TO JUPITER.

ALMOST TO A MOUNTAIN ROAD.

AND BECAUSE THE FIRE TRUCKS AND THE POLICE WAS THE POLICE WAS ON THE SCENE FIRST AND THE FIRE WAS TRYING TO GET THERE TO RENDER AID.

SO THAT TRAFFIC.

BECAUSE I'M EMBEDDING WITH.

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AND THAT WAS PASSED BETWEEN STATE BECAUSE THAT'S A TRAFFIC STOP RIGHT THERE.

THEN THIS PROJECT IS RIGHT AFTER THAT.

SO. I'M GLAD THE LIGHT IS GOING TO BE THERE.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO LIGHTS WITHIN ALMOST 100 FEET.

YEAH. SO THEY WILL BE TIMED WITH THE SIGNALS AND COMMUNICATE BETWEEN THEM.

WE WERE ACTUALLY THE ENGINEERS FOR BRENTWOOD LAKES AS WELL, SO WE'VE COORDINATED ALL OF THAT AS WELL BECAUSE.

I COULD SEE MALABA ROAD BEING BACKED UP.

YES. ALL THE DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH. AND WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED, TOO, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULD CREATE THE ABILITY FOR THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS CROSSING TO FOR NOT ONLY JUST SCHOOL BUSSES, BUT YOU HAVE THAT BEAUTIFUL REGIONAL TRAIL THAT GOES TO FRED POPPY PARK IF HE'S STILL HERE.

YEAH. AND SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT MAKING THAT MUCH, MUCH SAFER AS WELL AS PART OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE THERE'S ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

THERE'S NO OTHER.

AND THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

I MEAN, I GUESS YOU CAN'T.

YOU KNOW, PUT A ROAD ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.

BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU GOT THE STORMWATER.

THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN OF MINE.

THERE'S A LOT OF BLUE ON THERE.

YEAH, A LOT OF BLUE. THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT NOW.

THIS LOOKS BETTER WITH A FOUR LANE, RIGHT? MALABAR ROAD? YES, I'M IN FOSTERS.

OH, YEAH. YEAH. WELL, I'M GOING BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T THINK I EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT.

SO I FEEL THE CITIZEN PAIN.

YEAH, BUT I'M OKAY WITH IT.

I'M OKAY. BUT THE SAFETY PART IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS.

BECAUSE WHAT I SAW TODAY.

YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ME BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIGHTS ON MALABAR ROAD.

ONCE YOU PASS THE WINN-DIXIE, THERE'S REALLY JUST YOU'RE GOING INTO THE SPACE IT LOOK LIKE.

SO THE STRIPING, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND LIGHT AFTER YOU PASS MITTON ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER.

I MEAN, JUPITER. JUPITER, YOU PASS JUPITER, THERE'S NO OTHER LIGHT TO.

THERE'S NO OTHER LIGHT, PERIOD.

SO COMING SOON TO THE PARKWAY, WE'RE.

YEAH. THAT'S THE, THAT'S, THAT'S YEAH THAT'S THE ONE I'M YEAH THAT'S THE ONE I'M AT.

YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN, THE STORMWATER RETENTION AND THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SCHOOL BUSSES GO DOWN THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WALKING.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WALK IN THE MORNING AND JOG, SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THEM.

YEAH, AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IT'S NOT A GATED SUBDIVISION.

IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF IT.

WE WOULD ANTICIPATE SCHOOL BUSSES TO EVENTUALLY COME IN AND HAVE ONSITE SCHOOL BUS STOPS.

RIGHT, BECAUSE MINES IS GATED AND THE SCHOOL BUSSES DON'T COME IN, JUST DROP THE KIDS OFF AND TURN RIGHT BACK AROUND.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF SCHOOL BUSSES AND KIDS WALKING IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S AN.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

ELSEWHERE IN FILIBERTO. MY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

I WANTED TO GO MORE INTO THE TRAFFIC DETAIL OF IT.

IF CARRY ON.

FRANK, COME ON UP. OR MADAM SHERMAN.

SORRY. YES, SIR. WE CAN HAVE FRANK COME UP.

FRANK WATANABE, OUR CITY ENGINEER.

THANK YOU, JAKE. GOOD EVENING.

FRANK WATANABE IS AN ENGINEER.

THANKS, FRANK. SO REGARDING THIS PROJECT, YOU RECEIVED A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

I HAVEN'T SEEN A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

SO CAN YOU GIVE US A BRIEF SYNOPSIS ON WHAT THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY SAYS ON ON THIS PROJECT? THE LAST PHASE OF CHAPARRAL? I HAVE NOT SEEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY YET FOR THE PHASE FOUR.

THANK YOU, FRANK. ANYTHING ELSE? AND THAT'S GOOD. YEAH.

YEAH. MADAM SHERMAN.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, BECAUSE WE RECEIVED A TRAFFIC STUDY LATE LAST WEEK DURING THE STORM TIMES, WE STILL NEED TIME TO REVIEW AND ANALYZE THAT. SO YOU'LL SEE AS ONE OF THE STAFF CONDITIONS IN THERE, THERE WAS LANGUAGE REFERENCING, GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH THE REVIEW ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS A NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENTS TO FURTHER EXTEND THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ROADWAYS, WE WOULD DO THAT.

BUT THAT COMES AFTER WE FINISH ANALYZING THAT STUDY.

OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YEAH. THE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN.

IT'S SEMI THERE. I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE A STATION HERE, A POLICE STATION RIGHT HERE, AND THIS IS ONLY RIGHT UP THE STREET.

BUT I DID SEE THAT THE SCHOOL IS CHEAPER, TOO, AND HERITAGE ARE AT CAPACITY.

SO THIS SUBDIVISION DOES NOT SUPPLY KIDS IN THIS SUBDIVISION CANNOT GO TO THOSE SCHOOLS.

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I RECOMMEND THAT WE TABLE THIS.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I UNDERSTAND. WHERE YOU GOING, SIR? I GOT THAT.

EVERY MAYOR AND SPEAK OF THE BATON.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THAT'S LIKE POINT OUT AND THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING I SEE THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.

THE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE POLICE GUN RANGE AND THE MALABAR GUN RANGE.

AND SO WHAT I'M HOPING, WHICH I DON'T WANT TO EVER GET RID OF THAT BECAUSE I'D MUCH RATHER PREFER THAT MY POLICE OFFICERS WERE WELL TRAINED AND I PREFER THAT THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN GO AND SHOOT OUR GUNS LEGALLY WITHOUT GETTING IN TROUBLE.

SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE THERE.

BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE SURROUNDED BY IT HAVE A TENDENCY TO COMPLAIN BECAUSE THEY HEAR THE GUNFIRE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY PUT IT OUT THERE NOW.

THE FIRST TIME A RESIDENT COMES UP AND STARTS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TO COME INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN THEY COME UP AND START COMPLAINING, I'M GOING TO REMIND THEM THAT ALL OF THIS WAS THERE LONG BEFORE THEY BUILT THEIR HOUSE.

SO DON'T START COMPLAINING LATER.

I WANT TO SEE THIS DONE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DID YOU HEAR THAT, MR. WEISS? MAYBE YOU COULD.

AS YOU SELL PROPERTY.

IF, OF COURSE, IF THIS THIS COUNCIL APPROVES IT, YOU MAKE IT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT YOU'RE BUILDING A HOME NEAR A PISTOL RANGE AND RIFLE RANGE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PORT MALABAR.

I THINK IT'S CALLED RIFLE CLUB.

I THINK THAT THAT'S A VALID POINT BECAUSE WHAT MASTER CHIEF BRINGS UP IS FOLKS THAT BUILD AROUND THE AIRPORT AND THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT THE FLIGHTS COMING IN. SO I GET THE ANALOGY.

DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? OK. YES, SIR.

CARRY ON. YES, WE DID DO BRENTWOOD LAKES ALSO NEXT DOOR.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LOOKING AT IT ARE AWARE OF.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT THAT WAY, YOU WILL HEAR IT.

AND THAT'S WEEKENDS AND WEEKDAYS.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF.

WE ACTUALLY DID A TOUR OF THE FACILITIES.

IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE, TO BE HONEST, HOW SAFE THEY ARE THERE.

BUT YEAH, THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY A CONCERN.

AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO WITH THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS IS WE BRING IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY WHILE WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

WE HAVEN'T SUBMITTED CONSTRUCTION PLANS YET BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

THE TRAFFIC STUDY HAS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, DUAL TURN LANES, EXTENDING THEM SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AS PART OF THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY HANDLE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.

BUT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN THAT FRANK HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT YET, SO THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO US.

BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED TONIGHT WITH YOUR APPROVAL AND WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF, OF COURSE, ON THROUGH THAT WITH A CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL HOMES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS PHASE? IT IS 522 OUT OF THE TOTAL, 796, AN ADDITIONAL 522 GOING ON MALABAR ROAD THE WAY IT IS TODAY.

YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED THE APPROVAL OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IT WARRANTED WITH THIS ADDITIONAL UNIT COUNT WHERE IT WASN'T WARRANTED PREVIOUSLY.

AND UNLESS THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO INSTALL TRAFFIC SIGNALS UNLESS THEY WANTED.

RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, MAYOR. BECAUSE I SEE WHERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO WERE GOING WITH IT.

AND I SEE WE CAN GO ABOUT IT POTENTIALLY ONE OF TWO WAYS.

ONE, EITHER TABLING IT TO LATER MEETING OR TWO, WHICH IS WHY I WAS ALSO I CAN GO EITHER WAY.

AND WHICH IS WHY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.

BUT I ALSO SAW, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S COMMENTS ON HOW THEY CAN HANDLE THIS.

AND TYPICALLY, SINCE YOU'LL HAVE IT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WHERE YOU HAVE THE UPDATE FOR US ON.

TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. IS IT GOING TO TAKE MORE TIME THAN THAT OR.

UM, I WOULD DEFER TO OUR CITY ENGINEER FOR HIS REVIEW TIME.

IF WE HAVE TO CREATE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT TAKES MORE, MUCH MORE TIME THAN JUST TWO WEEKS.

YEAH. OKAY.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

THOSE MISSED TRACKED IN THE STUDY.

THIS STUDY WAS SUBMITTED AS CITY MANAGER POINTED OUT, BUT IT WAS DURING THE HURRICANE LAST WEEK.

AND SO I HAD A BRIEF CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

JUST A BRIEF ONE. I GAVE YOU MY I THINK THE COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED IN THE REPORT.

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THAT WAS MY OWN CONCERN.

THE ROADWAY IS A COUNTY ROADWAY AND THE COUNTY HAS TO APPROVE THE SIGNAL TO TURN LANES AND THE TAPERS.

AND SO IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH COUNTY REVIEW AS WELL.

THANK YOU. SO, YEAH, SO TO THAT POINT, I SEE I SEE ALL THREE OPTIONS.

WE VOTE IT DOWN, WE TABLE IT, OR WE WAIT FOR FURTHER INFORMATION OR AND TRUST IN STAFF TO DO WHAT THEY'RE PAID TO DO IN REGARDS TO HOLDING THE APPLICANT ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

I JUST CAN'T SEE ADDING ANOTHER 1000 VEHICLES TO THAT CORRIDOR.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

SO I'LL EITHER WAY, IF, IF COUNCIL PREFERS TO TABLE IT, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

I CANNOT SPEAK ON IT. YEAH.

I KNOW HOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I'M PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTED PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BECAUSE I GO BOTH WAYS.

I GO EAST AND WEST WHEN I WANT TO GET OUT OF THE CITY, I GO TO HERITAGE PARKWAY, SAINT JOHN THE PARKWAY.

SO I'VE BEEN ADMIRING THE PROJECT FOR A WHILE.

AND LET ME ADDRESS THE.

THE FIRING RANGE.

THAT'S THE POLICE FIRING RANGE.

I KNEW THERE WAS A RANGE THERE BEFORE I BOUGHT MY HOME IN BETWEEN THOSE STATES.

AND I HEAR GUNSHOTS.

I'M USED TO HEARING GUNSHOTS.

SO I'M I'M COOL WITH IT.

AS LONG AS MY NEIGHBOR IS NOT SHOOTING MY NEIGHBORS, NOT SHOOTING THEIR GUNS RIGHT NEXT TO ME, THEN THEN I AND I THINK I MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT AS LONG AS I HEAR FROM A DISTANCE, I KNOW MY POLICE IS PRACTICING AND I'M ALSO SOMEONE WHO'S ENJOYING SOME ROUNDS.

SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T SHOOT AT NIGHT.

I BARELY RARELY HEAR GUNSHOT AT NIGHT, BUT.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

I DON'T THINK WHOEVER MOVES OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT TO MAKE THAT DECISION IF THEY WANT TO PUT UP WITH A LITTLE FIRING RANGE.

BUT BESIDES THAT, I THINK.

THE ROAD. I MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THE ROAD ALREADY.

YOU HAVE A TURNING LANE AND YOU HAVE AN EGRESS LANE COMING OUT.

AM I CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO IT'S A COUNTY ROAD.

OK BECAUSE IF YOU CONCERN ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHOLE MALABAR ROAD BECAUSE WE GOT D.R.

HORTON, GOT OTHER PROJECTS, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS COMING, BUT WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST STOP DEVELOPING THE WHOLE MALABAR ROAD BECAUSE ONCE WE GET TO HARWICH, THE PARKWAY IS SOME MORE STUFF COMING AND THAT THE COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE THAT A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY.

AM I CORRECT? YES.

WE IT'S A COMBINATION.

IT'S A COMBINATION. WELL, IT'S A COMBINATION, BUT WE SET ASIDE FUNDS THAT MAKE IT A FOUR LANE.

BUT FROM WHERE I'M AT, NO, FROM MITTON ROAD.

RIGHT. ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PATCH HERITAGE.

SO IT'S COMING.

I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC IF A LIGHT IS GOING TO BE THERE.

I REALLY DON'T WANT A LIGHT THERE, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BACK UP.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TWO LIGHTS WITHIN 100 FEET OF EACH OTHER.

AM I RIGHT? YEAH.

JUST JUST DOING SOME QUICK MATH SO THIS COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS TIMING OF DEVELOPING 522 UNITS.

IF YOU DO FIVE A MONTH IN A ONE SUBDIVISION, THAT'S 60 A YEAR.

THIS IS A NINE YEAR BUILDOUT AND NINE YEARS.

WE'RE GOING TO KNOW HOW THIS TRAFFIC SIGNAL DOES WHAT MALABAR ROAD IS DOING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YOU'RE NOT GETTING 500 HOUSES NEXT YEAR, ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

AND THEN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY DOES SHOW DUAL EF TURN LANES ADDING MORE PAVEMENT.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.

SO THERE IS A LOT TO IT.

AND WE'LL HAVE TWO AGENCIES, BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SCRUTINIZING IT AND REVIEWING IT.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO A VERY, VERY DETAILED SAFE JOB WITH IT THAT THAT THAT INTERSECTION IS PRETTY LARGE COMPARED TO BEEN WITH THE STATE IN THAT SECTION.

AND IT DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.

IT'S PRETTY LARGE ROOM TO EXPAND.

BUT NOT ONLY THAT.

WITH THE. SUPPLY CHAIN SITUATION WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME BEFORE YOU FINISH ALL OF THIS.

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TYPICALLY, A PROJECT OF THAT SIZE IS ABOUT A 15 YEAR PROJECT.

SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD DELAY A 15 YEAR PROJECT WHEN IT'S ALREADY DELAYED WITH THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND AND THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE BEFORE FULLY DEVELOPED.

BY THEN I PROBABLY SELL MY HOUSE AND MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S TELLING.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THIS AS.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FELIX YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU HAVEN'T. YOU MAY.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

IT'S A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING AS I WOULD LEAN ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND REALLY WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND DO MAKE SURE THEY DO WHAT THEY SUPPOSED TO DO AND WHAT THEY SAY THEY WILL DO.

SO I'M READY TO SUPPORT IT AS IS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M I'M STILL WITH YOU.

I WOULD PREFER TO TABLE IT AND GET GET ALL THAT SQUARED AWAY.

BUT EITHER WAY, THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

THAT THAT'S FINE AS WELL.

ANY OF THE SPEAKERS WERE GOOD WITH SPEAKERS.

I'M I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND ASK THEM FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON IT'S 2020 2-102 TO INCLUDE STAFF'S COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

FIRST READING SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX DEPUTY MAYOR.

NOTHING ELSE. COUNCILMAN FELIX ANYTHING TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE, SIR.

OK ALL IN FAVOR? I ALL OPPOSE NAY PASSES 3 TO 2 AND WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

RESOLUTION 2022 55, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS LIPSCOMB STREET PWD IN RAMPTON SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING WITH A TENTATIVE ZONING OF PWD LAND UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO LIPSCOMB STREET IN THE VICINITY WEST OF MANGO STREET AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A FILING OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRIS OSO.

I'M THE ENGINEER OF RECORD WITH KIMLEY-HORN ON THIS PROJECT.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, I KIND OF WANT TO GET OFF TOPIC, AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THE COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR ON THE HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION.

AS A FELLOW HISPANIC MYSELF, I SAY GRACIAS.

IT WAS VERY REFRESHING TO SEE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP REAL QUICK.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF PULTE HOMES, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPER ON THIS LIPSCOMB TOWNHOUSE PROJECT.

AS STATED EARLIER, IT IS IN THE GRAPHIC THAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING.

YOU HAVE TO BEAR WITH US.

IT'S DIRECTED IF YOU.

OVER THE PAPER THE OTHER WAY.

THE TRUE NORTH IS ON THE VERTICAL END.

WE ARE PROPOSING THE DEVELOPMENT OF FOUR UNDEVELOPED PARCELS TO THE WEST OF LIPSCOMBE STREET AND THE PALM BAY COLONY COMMUNITY TO THE EAST OF THE PROJECT.

AS NOTED EARLIER, THESE ARE FOUR TRACTS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED, WHICH TOTAL A 20 TOTAL, 24 AND ONE HALF ACRES APPROXIMATELY, WITH AN EXISTING ZONING OF AROUND TEN.

THE PROJECT IS GOING THROUGH THE REZONING AND PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS DUE TO THE CITIES NOT HAVING A TOWN HOME CODE THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC FOR THIS USE.

BUT THE EXISTING ZONING OF REM TEN IS DOES FALL WITHIN THE DENSITY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING OF 9.28 UNITS PER ACRE. THE MAXIMUM UNDER OUR INTENT IS TEN UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PROJECT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY THROUGH P AND Z BOARD LAST MONTH AND IT WAS RECEIVED FAVORABLY.

THE PROJECT HAS ALSO GONE THROUGH THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING AND WE HAD A VERY WELL-ATTENDED AND LIVELY MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE PALM BAY COLONY A FEW MONTHS BACK.

THE TOWNHOUSE PROJECT IS PROPOSING A ROUGHLY 228 TOWNHOMES SPLIT UP INTO THE FOR OURSELVES.

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THE TOWN HALLS WOULD BE MADE UP OF TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUILDINGS, A SIX UNIT BUILDING AND AN EIGHT UNIT BUILDING, WITH THE COMMUNITY HAVING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT STORMWATER RETENTION AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ESTHETIC FEATURES AS WELL, AND A RECREATIONAL TRACK ON THE PHASE ONE PORTION.

WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT ADHERES AND EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY.

AND IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST PAGE OF THE PRINTOUTS THAT I GAVE IS AN ELEVATION DEPICTION OF ONE OF OF HOW THE TOWNHOME MODELS WILL LOOK LIKE IN THIS AREA.

SO IT'S A VERY NICE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING PRESENTED FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

THERE'S TWO POINTS OF ACCESS FOR EACH SIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR SILK STREET LANE AND HUCKLEBERRY LANE, THERE IS NO PROPOSED ACCESS OFF OF AIRSOFT BOULEVARD, WHICH IS THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE FOR THE WESTBOUND MOVEMENT FORWARD THE PALM PALM BAY COLONY. BESIDES THAT, WE ARE STILL IN THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PHASE.

WE HAVE SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC INVESTIGATIONS OVER TO THE CITY ENGINEER.

BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS, WE'LL BE DOING A FULL STUDY AND THAT AND LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE SET FORTH BY STAFF.

AND WITH THAT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO HUCKLEBERRY LANE GOES COMPLETELY TO THE WEST, AS YOU SAID.

AND IN WHAT? SILK TREE LANE? YES, SIR. SO TREE LANE IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND HUCKLEBERRY IS TO THE NORTH.

OKAY. AND URSULA BOULEVARD.

IT CUTS OFF OR IT DOESN'T GO ANY FURTHER WEST THAN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

OR THEY ALL GO TO THE WEST AND THEY DON'T GO ANY FURTHER WEST.

THEY KIND OF. THEY STOP AT LIPSCOMB, BUT THEY DO GO INTO THEY PROVIDE ACCESS INTO THE PALM BAY COLONY, TO THE EAST, TO THE PALM BAY COLONY.

AND THEY. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT LOOKS GOOD.

I YOU KNOW, LIPSCOMB TO ME, IS LIKE A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, RIGHT? WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

ANY. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

FIRST, FOR THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION PLAN MEETING WITH THE PALM BAY COLONY.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, AND I ONLY HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD FROM THE AUDIENCE.

SO IF YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THE DIALOG THAT WAS SHARED.

AND YEAH, I STATED EARLIER, IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.

WE HAD IT AT THE BOATHOUSE PARK AND EXCUSE ME, I DON'T KNOW THE PROPER NAME OF THE LOCATION.

A LOT OF THE CONCERNS HAD TO DO WITH TRAFFIC.

MAINLY THE BULK OF THE CONCERNS HAD TO DO WITH TRAFFIC, WITH THEIR CURRENT TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

WITHOUT THE PROJECT IN QUESTION.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT US PROPOSING BLOCKING OFF HUCKLEBERRY LANE AND SILK TREE LANE.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE BROUGHT UP WITH STAFF AT THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION MEETING.

THOSE TWO STREETS ARE CITY STREETS, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE AVENUE IN ORDER TO CLOSE THEM OFF OR MAKE THEM PART OF THE PROJECT.

SO THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT.

BUT WE DID TELL THEM THAT BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY STUDIES THAT WE'VE SEEN, THE MAJORITY OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GO WEST AND USE THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE OF LIPSCOMB AND NOT PASS THROUGH TRAFFIC INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

OKAY, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

I MIGHT LEAN ON STAFF WITH THIS AS WELL.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE LARGE SCALE PROJECT IN MELBOURNE, NORTH OF PIRATE LANE? I'VE HEARD OF IT, YES.

OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A HUGE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS.

ON WHAT THEY WILL DO TO PIRATE LANE WITH PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT THERE AS WELL AS LIPSCOMB.

SO I WASN'T SURE IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL RIGHT NOW OR OR IF STAFF WANTS TO OR BECAUSE THAT'S MY MAIN THING IS THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT PARCEL OF LAND, I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S HUGE. AND IT GOES FROM BABCOCK STREET ALL ALL THE WAY TO LIPSCOMB.

AND IT'S BASICALLY A RECTANGLE.

SO. RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT THAT I KNOW AND THERE'S A LOT OF IT IS HEARSAY FROM DEVELOPERS AND JUST PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY.

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SO I DON'T KNOW IN WHAT STAGE I KNOW THEY ARE BEHIND OR IN WHAT KIND OF NEGOTIATIONS THERE STILL ARE.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OFF OF LIPSCOMB AND COMMERCE WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST IT WAS APPROVED.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE HAPPEN.

MAYOR, IS THAT RIGHT? SO I SEE SOMEONE WHO MR. WEISS ACTUALLY KNOWS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

FOR THE OTHER PROJECT? YES.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. WEISS, YOU WANT TO STEP UP? IT KNOWS ALL PROJECTS.

SO WE ARE THE ENGINEERS FOR THAT PROJECT IS CALLED MAYFAIR AND WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE FOR A FINAL MASTER PLAT TO BE APPROVED, TO SPLIT IT INTO THREE SEPARATE PARCELS AND THE EASTERNMOST PART OF IT AND THE NORTHERNMOST PART OF IT.

THERE'S A PORTION THAT'S NORTH OF FLORIDA AVE, BUT THE PORTION THAT FRONTS LIPSCOMB STREET, IT ALSO FRONTS FLORIDA AB TO THE NORTH AND EBER TO THE SOUTH.

THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.

IT'S 125 ACRE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT.

TRAFFIC IS, OF COURSE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS.

THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IS WORKING ON OUR PROJECT, A FOUR LANE EBERT ROAD, WHICH IS ALSO CALLED PIRATE LANE, NORTH OF THE PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEY'RE ALSO AT THE EAST END WHERE IT TIES INTO LIPSCOMB STREET.

THEY ALREADY OWN THE LAND TO HAVE IT SWING UP AND TIE INTO AS A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION WOULD WOULD LAY COMMERCE PARK DRIVE.

SO THE FOUR LANING THE NEW INTERSECTION IT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE SIGNALIZED IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A DRAMATICALLY BIG IMPROVEMENT FOR TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

SO ALL OF THAT IS MOVING FORWARD CONCURRENTLY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT HELPS ME OUT A LOT BECAUSE WHEN I'M PASSING BACK AND FORTH PIRATE LANE, IF I'M GOING FROM PIRATE LANE TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT ON TO LIPSCOMB OR RIGHT ON TO LIPSCOMB, IT'S ALREADY DIFFICULT.

YEAH, IT IS ALREADY. YOU HAVE TO END, CHILD.

AND LIKE, LORD, HELP ME OUT.

THAT'S A TOUGH SPOT. OH, YEAH, IT IS ALREADY.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE STAFF HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THAT? SO WHY IS THAT? SECOND, I THINK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, I'M DONE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MR. BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

MY COMMENT ON THIS ONE DOES REVERT RIGHT BACK INTO THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.

NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO DO THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY FOR A 1.5 RADIUS, WHICH WAS INCORPORATING LIPSCOMBE STREET AND PALM BAY ROAD, BOTH OF THEM IN FOR THEIR OR THEIR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

SO I THINK CURRENTLY OUR LOSS OR LEVEL OF SERVICE IS LOW FOR THAT AREA, WHICH ALLOWS MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO SET FOR THE LOSS.

SO MY STATEMENT IS IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THE NEW COMP PLAN AND WE HAVE A CHANGE IN OUR LOSS PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT THAT THEY TAKE INTO THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THE IMPACT ON LIPSCOMB STREET AND PALM BAY ROAD.

ALSO THAT WE WE HAVE THAT.

SO WE GET MAXIMUM MAXIMUM BULK COMING INTO THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE REQUIREMENT SHOULD BE, NOT FOR THE LOW STANDARD THAT WE HAVE NOW BEFORE IT, THE REAL STANDARD OF THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE THAT'S WHEN THAT DECISION SHOULD BE MADE.

AND THE SECOND REQUEST WITH THAT ONE IS, IS THAT WE GET THE IMPACT FEE MONEY BECAUSE IF MELBOURNE IS GOING TO BE BUILDING ON THAT ROAD ALSO, AND THAT'S WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES MIGHT BE, IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM, BUT WE HAVE CASH IN HAND INSTEAD OF A TAX ABATEMENT OR A TAX CREDIT WHEN WE GO TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DULY NOTED, MASTER CHIEF.

MADAM SHERMAN.

AND WE HAVE TO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE WERE WE WERE ALREADY AWARE OF THE PROJECT AND STAFF WAS GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO SEE WHAT THE STATUS WAS WITH MELBOURNE.

SO WE WILL DEFINITELY SCHEDULE A MEETING IN SHORT TERM TO FIND OUT HOW WE CAN PARTNER TOGETHER ON THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND REGARDING OUR THOSE IMPACT FEES. THAT WOULD ALL BE SUBJECT TO DISCUSSION WITH DEVELOPERS ON OUR SIDE, DEVELOPERS ON THEIR SIDE AND NEGOTIATIONS.

SO. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADDRESS, SIR, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. NO OTHER.

THE SPEAKERS WERE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED RESOLUTION 2022 55.

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GO AHEAD. DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, MAYOR.

I DO HAVE I DO HAVE MY CONCERNS WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PART.

I AM SAYING ONCE WE GET TO THE FINAL AND IF IT DOESN'T, LOOK HOW I WILL WANT IT TO LOOK AND MAY, DEPENDING ON THE INFORMATION, MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION, SIR.

BUT I'LL HEAR HOW STAFF ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND HEARING FROM AN APPLICANT WORKING ON THAT PROJECT ON WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR TRAFFIC AS WELL AS WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING.

I'M COMFORTABLE AT THIS STAGE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

SO THAT'S ALL, MAYOR.

I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT FRONTAGE.

ON LIPSCOMBE BEING COMMERCIAL.

JUST JUST PLAIN TO SEE THERE.

COUNCILMAN FELIX.

MAYOR ONLY THING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT MIGHT BE IF I CAN BRING THE APPLICANT BACK OR NOW.

THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT THOSE THINGS CLOSED.

THAT'S FINE. NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY CONSIDERATION FOR SIDEWALKS ON LIPSCOMB.

LONG, ALL ALONGSIDE THE BUILDING, NUMBER ONE, AND ALSO STREETLIGHTS AS WELL.

HIS LIPS COMES PRETTY DARK.

SO TWO THINGS.

SIDEWALKS. CONSIDERATION FOR THAT STREET LIGHTS.

AND ALSO. BUT 2022 WITH A PROJECT THIS SIZE AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GO BE MORE CONSCIOUS OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

IS THERE ANY PLAN FOR MAYBE SOME CHARGERS ELECTRIC CAR CHARGERS IN THAT PROJECT? IT SEEMS TO BE A NICE PROJECT MARKET RATE POTENTIALLY.

I SUPPOSE SO.

WOULD THAT BE A CONSIDERATION? HE CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE I'M JUST THROWING OUT.

YEAH, I'M JUST. YOU'RE GIVEN.

YOU'RE GIVEN NOTES. I'M JUST TRYING OUT SIDEWALKS AND A STREET LIGHT COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE.

CARRY ON. WE'RE GIVEN THOSE.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON RECORD.

AND HOPEFULLY AS THIS PROJECT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP AND TAKE THESE INTO CONSIDERATION, I'M READY TO SUPPORT IT AS AS IT IS TODAY.

RIGHT NOW, I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON SAID IT ELOQUENTLY, RIGHT? HE SAID AT THIS STAGE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SEE HOW IT COMES BACK.

SO DULY NOTED.

YOU WANTED THEY'LL TAKE BACK THAT INFORMATION ABOUT LIGHTS, ABOUT YOUR SIDEWALK REQUESTS, THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER CHARGES? COUNCILMAN FOSTER YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, TAKE.

AND TO ME IT'S THE SAME ONE.

WE JUST VOTED ON 3 TO 2.

BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH SCHOOL NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.

I USED TO WORK AT PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE'S A.

A MILITARY SCHOOL NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.

AND THE DENSITY.

IF IN PALM BAY COLONY.

ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT. THESE GUYS WON'T BE GOING INTO.

IT'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO DRIVE INTO PALM BAY COLONY, BUT IT'S THE REASON WHY PALM BAY COLONY FOLKS COULD DRIVE THROUGH TO GET OUT UNTIL.

LET'S CONCENTRATE. SO.

TO ME IT'S THE SAME PROJECT BECAUSE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS ONE SIDE IS MELBOURNE AND THE OTHER SIDE IS PALM BAY.

THIS PART OF LYGON STREET IS SPLIT IN HALF.

AND. AND I HAVE AN OFFICE.

MY OFFICE IS NOT TOO FAR FROM IT.

I GO. I TRAVEL THIS ROAD A LOT.

YEAH, I HEAR YOU, MAYOR, ABOUT COMMERCIAL.

BUT WITH ALL THESE TOWN HOMES, COMMERCIAL ADVANTAGE THAT'S GOING TO.

BENEFIT IS THE EVANS CENTER.

AND THRIFTY AND BRAVO'S.

IN THAT CIRCLE K ON THE CORNER OF PALM BAY ROAD AND LIPTON AND IT MIGHT BE SOME MORE COMMERCIAL COME OUT OF THIS WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS MOVING INTO THESE TOWNHOMES. SO TO ME IT'S THE SAME THING.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

THE TRAFFIC IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THAT ROAD.

LIKE MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN FELIX SAID, THE TRAFFIC TO ME, A SIDEWALK.

IT'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE WORK, BUT I CAN SUPPORT IT LIKE IT IS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH, I'M JUST GOING ALONG WITH WHAT OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS SAID.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INTER-CITY EFFORT BETWEEN MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY REGARDING THE TRAFFIC.

BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN OUT THERE THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON THE BUILD.

SO A BENEFIT TO THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS THE IMPACT FEES RECEIVED TOWARDS THAT FIRE STATION.

SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

I LIKE THE PROJECT ALSO.

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AND JUST THE NUMBER TO 28 COMPARED TO 522, WHICH WE SAW PREVIOUSLY.

IT SEEMS TO BE A GOOD FIT.

NOTHING FURTHER, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR? HI. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 103, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO MOBILE FOOD VENDING.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN.

YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS, IN BRIEF, THE FIRST READING OF A SOME CHANGES TO OUR REGULATIONS REGARDING MOBILE FOOD VENDING.

THE STATE DID CHANGE SOME OF THE LAWS NOT TOO LONG AGO AND PREEMPTED SOME OF THE ABILITY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO REGULATE FOOD TRUCKS.

SO IN PART, THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE IS UPDATING OUR ORDINANCE TO REFLECT WHAT STATE LAW SAYS.

SO FOOD TRUCKS ARE BASICALLY FULLY REGULATED BY THE STATE.

WE DON'T REGULATE THEM IN TERMS OF BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

IT ALSO PROVIDES SOME PROTOCOLS, IF YOU WILL, FOR HOW AND WHERE THEY CAN OPERATE IN TERMS OF CITY PROPERTY, PUBLIC FACILITIES.

SO APPLYING FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS SIMPLY TO TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PLAN FOR WHO'S WHERE AND WHICH PARK, FOR EXAMPLE.

BUT ESSENTIALLY IT REALLY IS THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROPERLY FOLLOWING FLORIDA STATUTES AND PROVIDING THE THE LANGUAGE THAT MATCHES UP WITH THEIR THEIR NEW REGULATIONS AS WELL AS IT OVERALL JUST REALLY, I THINK, OFFERS ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO DO MOBILE VENDING OF DIFFERENT TYPES, NOT JUST FOOD TRUCKS, GIVES THEM MORE OPPORTUNITIES UNDER THIS NEW ORDINANCE.

AND IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO BRING STAFF UP TO TALK THROUGH.

SO MY QUESTION IS, SO THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MOBILE VENDORS TO PARK OUTSIDE DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS SO THAT COUNCIL CAN CAN HAVE CHOW AND THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL SELL US CHAT BECAUSE MOST OF US COME FROM FROM WORK.

RIGHT? AND SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GREAT SUGGESTION.

I'M JUST HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

WITH THE SPECIAL PERMITS.

THERE'S A SPECIAL PERMIT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

YES, SIR. OKAY, COPY THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THESE PERMITS, THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

IT WAS A FEE CHARGE TO THE PERMIT.

SPECIAL PERMIT. I'M LOOKING AT STAFF.

I DON'T RECALL ONE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT AND GET BACK TO YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF INFORMING WHERE YOU WANT TO BE AT WHAT TIME, AND KEEPING EVERYBODY IN THE LOOP.

THAT'S HOW THEY DO OUR FRIDAY.

YES, SAME WAY. SAME WAY.

I'M NOT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE CHARGE A FEE.

I'M JUST. I'M JUST ASKING IF IT'S IS A FEE.

YES. STAFF IS CONFIRMING IT'S THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE DO FOR OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A SET FEE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PIECE.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? HEY. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME.

MY NAME IS LYNNE GRIMES, AND I WAS HERE AT THE SEPTEMBER 6TH MEETING WHEN THEY BROUGHT THAT UP.

AND I BELIEVE THE ISSUE WAS.

THEY'RE ALLOWING FOOD TRUCKS.

BUT IN PALM BAY, THERE'S SO MANY ZONING RULES THAT DON'T LET THEM TO PARK THE FOOD TRUCKS IN THEIR YARD AT NIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I HAVE A GOOD VEHICLE.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE HERE TO.

SO, YEAH, THAT WAS. REMEMBER THAT? WELL, HERE YOU CAN HAVE A HOTDOG TRUCK, BUT YOU CAN'T PARK IT IN YOUR YARD UNLESS YOU CAN HIDE IT BEHIND YOUR FENCE.

THANK YOU. SORRY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVED ON HIS 2020 2-103 FIRST READING.

SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NOT ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX OR ORDNANCE 2022 DASH 104.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION DX ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP

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THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU. BUSY NIGHT TONIGHT.

JAKE WHITE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE OUR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER TWO AGENDA ITEMS FURTHER ON THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WILL GET INTO A MORE EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION ON.

BUT FOR THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, THIS EXHIBIT IS GREAT BECAUSE IT CLARIFIES THE AREA.

WHILE THE NORTHERN PORTION OF IT, WHICH IS CLOSEST TO THE PARKWAY, IS AN EXISTING STORMWATER POND, THIS MASTER SYSTEM OF THE HIGHLIGHTED.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM. SO JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE PARKWAY AND TO THE SOUTH OF PARKWAY, THERE ARE HUGE, HUGE OVERSIZE PONDS.

SO THE SYSTEM COULD EASILY ALLOW FOR THE FEELING OF THAT SMALL POND THAT'S ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THAT.

AND THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AGREED UPON WITH THE CITY SINCE WE STARTED THIS MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE OTHER SITE IS THE ONE THAT GOES DOWN INTO ANOTHER STORMWATER POND.

THAT SITE HAD BEEN ANTICIPATED POTENTIALLY FOR A FIRE STATION OR POLICE STATION AND POSSIBLY WATER TANKS.

IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A SITE FURTHER TO THE EAST ON EMERALD LAKES WOULD BE BETTER AND THAT SITE'S MOVING FORWARD.

SO WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN ABOUT SIX AND A HALF ACRES OF MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

WITH THIS APPLICATION, THERE APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT PURCHASING ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL OF WATERSTONE AND CYPRUS BAY EXCEPT FOR THE PUBLIC SITE WHICH IS ALREADY MOVING FORWARD.

SO THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO ADD THIS ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL RIGHT ON THE PARKWAY FRONTAGE SO THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I DID JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE PREVIOUS ITEM GETTING APPROVED.

MY SON, WHO TURNED 18 YESTERDAY, IS HERE TONIGHT AND I DID NOT WANT HIM TO SEE ME GET SOMETHING DENIED.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

ON. SO WE'RE MAKING THIS COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S CORRECT. THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALSO. QUESTION.

AND. THANK YOU, JAKE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? THE FORWARD MASTER CHIEF.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS A CASE OF RESIDENTIAL LAND BEING CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ALWAYS AS USUALLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THAT AS A A PLUS.

BUT IF THAT 6.49 ACRES RETENTION POND WAS ALREADY THERE, WHICH WAS THAT MEANS MANUFACTURING OF WORK TWICE AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, THEY COULD ONLY HAVE 12 HOMES UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S ALL THAT COULD BE THERE ON THE SIX ACRES.

FOR ME PERSONALLY, THAT WOULD BE A GORGEOUS HOME TO OWN.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE SOCIETY SEES NOW.

BUT REMEMBER, THIS WAS DEVELOPER'S ORIGINAL PLAN LAYOUT, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

SO NOW THEY'RE NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR A REQUEST REQUEST OF CHANGE.

THEY MAKE THIS REQUEST AND TRY TO TIE IT TO ANOTHER PROJECT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THIS OVERALL PROPOSAL AND THEIR TIE IN THAT THESE SIX ACRES TO 338 ACRES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF BABCOCK. SO REMEMBER THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY SOUTH ENDED UP COSTING THE CITIZENS $9 MILLION.

THE DEVELOPERS TOLD US WHAT THEY WERE TRYING, WHAT THEY WANTED.

THAT WAS THE SALE POINT TO GET TO GET THIS.

ALL AREA DEVELOPED.

THIS WAS THEIR REQUEST AND THE TAXPAYERS ENDED UP PUTTING $9 MILLION TOWARDS IT.

I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CHANGES THAT NOW THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? MR. CORCORAN, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SIR? OK YES, SIR. HEY, JAKE, DID YOU WANT TO COME ADDRESS?

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IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN INTENDED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO FILL IT AND TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT TO COMMERCIAL.

WE THINK THAT FRONTAGE WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS COMMERCIAL AND BECAUSE THE STORMWATER SYSTEM IS SO OVERSIZE, IT WOULD WOULD NOT IMPACT IT.

AND THEN THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, WE ANTICIPATE IT TO BE AN INSTITUTIONAL USE FOR POLICE, FIRE AND POTENTIALLY UTILITIES AND THAT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN TO WORK OUT.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AT THIS TIME IN THIS MARKET TODAY.

SO THAT WE BELIEVE IS COMMERCIAL FOR IT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING IT THE WAY WE ARE.

QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, JAKE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? THOSE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE 2022 104.

ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED.

MOTIONED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TAKEN BY COUNCILMAN FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR ANYTHING TO ADD? I GOT A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ORDINANCE 2022 105, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION DX ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP FIVE MEN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

HMM. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE. OUR WHOLE PROJECT TEAM HERE.

AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THIS AGENDA ITEM, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ARE BOTH FOR THE SAME PROJECT.

SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT ALL OF IT AT ONE TIME FOR BOTH AGENDA ITEMS. AND WE HAVE WITH US HERE TONIGHT THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, WHICH IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL GROUP THAT'S DONE A LOT OF SIMILAR PROJECTS AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT PURCHASING EXCEPT FOR, AGAIN, THE PUBLIC SITE, THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT'S PART OF WATERSTONE AND CYPRESS BAY.

WE ALSO HAVE JIM MCKNIGHT HERE WITH US, WHO IS A PLANNER AND ALSO CITY MANAGER FOR 31 YEARS AT ROCKLEDGE AND COCOA BEACH.

SO HE KNOWS A FEW THINGS ABOUT NOT ONLY SUCCESSIVE PROJECTS BUT DEVELOPING THROUGH DIFFERENT ECONOMIC TRENDS.

AND SO WE'LL DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT.

SO I PROMISE THESE ARE THE LAST TWO AGENDA ITEMS YOU CAN HEAR FROM ME TONIGHT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO JUST BEFORE THE PRESENTATION HERE, LET'S SEE.

THERE WE GO. SO WHICH YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS ALL OF WATERSTONE, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF BABCOCK STREET.

IT'S NOT WORKING. SO BABCOCK STREET RUNS NORTH SOUTH BETWEEN THE PINK AREAS AND THEN THE PARKWAY IS DOWN AND THAT'S BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER. THAT TIES INTO, OF COURSE, I-95 TO THE EAST AND THE BABCOCK INTERSECTION THERE.

ALL OF THE PINK THAT YOU SEE THERE IS EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLUS THE ADDITIONAL SIX AND A HALF ACRES THAT YOU JUST VOTED ON PREVIOUS TO THAT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT.

SO A QUICK HISTORY LESSON, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE PROJECTS FOR A LONG TIME, EARNING ALL THESE GRAY HAIRS OVER THE DECADES.

THE WHAT SHOCKED ME WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS WAS WITH.

1200 ACRES OF MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAD ZERO MULTIFAMILY.

THAT'S ZERO MULTIFAMILY LOTS.

AND THAT IS THE HOTTEST MARKET RIGHT NOW FOR RESIDENTIAL IS WANTING MULTIFAMILY.

THERE'S JUST A HUGE DEMAND.

AND SO THE THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN FOR THIS WAS DESIGNED IN THE EARLY 2000S VERY DIFFERENT MARKET PRE-PANDEMIC PRE AMAZON JUST A DIFFERENT WORLD.

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WE HAVE 159 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL LAND RIGHT NOW WITH EMERALD LAKE'S TO THE EAST.

WE JUST DON'T THINK THAT IS VIABLE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO.

IT'S TO TAKE THAT WIDE AREA I JUST SHOWED YOU.

THIS HAS TURNED IN ROTATED.

SO THE NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.

SO YOU'VE GOT THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY TO THE SOUTH AND YOU'VE GOT BABCOCK STREET THERE TO THE EAST.

AND AGAIN, ALL THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE WILL BE 100% MAINTAINED.

FIRST HERE.

WE. SO WE'VE HAD THIS ZONING SINCE 2004, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A SITE PLAN HERE THAT INCLUDES TAKING THE FUTURE LAND USE AND CHANGING 38.3 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT DOWN ZONE. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS INTENSE FOR TRAFFIC, WHICH WE'LL DIG INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MUCH LESS INTENSE AND MUCH LESS IMPERVIOUS, A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE.

YOU SEE ALL THE GREEN AND THE BLUE INTERNAL TO THE SITE.

THIS SITE IS ALREADY MASTER PERMITTED FOR STORMWATER.

THOSE BLUE PONDS AREN'T NEEDED FOR STORMWATER.

IT'S JUST PURELY ESTHETIC AND A BENEFIT TO THE POTENTIAL FUTURE RESIDENTS.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS FOR TWO SEPARATE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WOULD BE MARKET RATE WITH A TOTAL OF 612 UNITS AND THERE WOULD BE A THIRD PROJECT TO THE FAR NORTH, WHICH IS TO THE RIGHT ON THIS PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE A 55 PLUS MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, MARKET RATES WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF AMENITIES.

SO THIS WHOLE REGION RIGHT NOW DOESN'T HAVE ANY MULTIFAMILY AT ALL.

AND WITH OUR TEAMS EXPERIENCED SUCCESS IN OTHER PROJECTS, THEY FEEL LIKE AND WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL SUCCESSFUL.

TO THE NORTH OF THIS, WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE FUTURE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

SO YOU'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS, PROJECTS TO THE SOUTH, MOVE INTO THE 55 PLUS TO THE NORTH, AND THEN EVENTUALLY AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL.

UM THE ALSO ANOTHER HUGE PART OF THIS THAT WITH THIS TEAM'S EXPERIENCE IS THE WALKABILITY.

SORRY, I KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH.

I'M USED TO THE LASER POINTER.

IS ACTIVITY YOUR PRIVATE.

SO I. YEAH.

COMMERCIAL LANDS THAT WOULD REMAIN SO.

THE WALKABILITY OF IT IS WHAT MAKES THAT COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE SUCCESSFUL.

TO HAVE ALL THOSE APARTMENTS BEHIND THEM AND TO BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO GO INTO BABCOCK STREET, NOT HAVE TO ADD TRAFFIC TO THE PARKWAY AND TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE SUCCESSFUL IS WHAT WHAT WE WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THE DEVELOPER TO TALK ABOUT.

THEIR PROJECTS IN THE PAST.

AND THIS ONE. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SURESH GUPTA.

I LIVE IN ORLANDO.

MY ADDRESS IS 9030 SOUTHERN BREEZE DRIVE, ORLANDO.

I HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS IN ORLANDO.

WE'VE DONE ABOUT 20,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS OVER THE LAST 38 YEARS.

AND I WANT TO DO BUSINESS IN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL, MOST BEAUTIFUL CITY IN THE WORLD.

AND WE ARE WE'VE DONE A MARKET RENT APARTMENTS.

WE'VE DONE 55 PLUS MARKET RENT RENTAL UNITS.

WE'VE DONE ASSISTED LIVING, WE'VE DONE PUBLIC SHOPPING CENTERS, WE'VE DONE HOTELS.

AND THIS IS A THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.

AND WE WANT TO DO THE MARKET RENT APARTMENTS HERE BECAUSE WE THINK THERE'S A NEED.

AND AS WE'VE BEEN TOLD, THAT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN THE NEARBY AREA.

AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONVERTING SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL LAND THAT WE ALREADY HAVE HERE INTO MARKET RENT APARTMENTS AND THE 55 PLUS APARTMENTS.

AND THAT WILL STILL LEAVE 127 ACRES.

THAT INCLUDES THE SIX ACRES THAT YOU'VE JUST REZONE.

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HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. I'LL JUMP ON IT BECAUSE AND I APPRECIATE MR. WISE. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL ALL EXPLAINING THIS.

I STILL SHARE SOME CONCERNS ON LETTING THIS GO FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY.

AND I DO I DO UNDERSTAND.

AND IF YOU CAN ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE ON IT, THAT'LL BE GRATEFUL, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THE COVERT COVERT EFFECT AND I UNDERSTAND THE AMAZON EFFECT.

SO I UNDERSTAND THOSE PLAY A BIG DEAL IN THE MARKET ON WHAT'S FEASIBLE AND WHAT'S NOT.

AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU DO HAVE COMMERCIAL, IT'S SUPPORTED.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS OF STAFF, HAS THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY UNITS OR PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED WITHIN THIS VICINITY TO SUPPORT POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL, I GUESS.

OR GO AHEAD.

SO JUST FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, UM, JOHN, YOU WANT TO SHARE WHAT YOU'VE GOT PULLED UP THERE? IN THE SOUTHEAST, WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED 2449 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

IT'S ALMOST 2500.

SO WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THERE? THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, INCLUDING WHAT'S ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SO WHAT YOU SEE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AS YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT'S ALL.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE HAD SCHOOLS ALREADY APPROVED A TOTAL OF 2449 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

OKAY. SO SO SO I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO BE UNDERSTANDING ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE COMMERCIAL AND IT'S NOT SUPPORTED.

WE SEE THAT ON CERTAIN PARTS OF JUPITER AND EMERSON.

SO I GET THAT PART.

BUT ALSO I HATE TO JUST LET IT GO AND THEN POSSIBLY WE CAN WAIT AND AND MAYBE THE MARKET SHIFTS OR HERE'S YOU KNOW, I'LL GO WITH DEPUTY MAYOR BECAUSE BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT.

RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YES, AMAZON. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT HERE'S HERE'S THE ROOFTOPS THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING THERE.

AND IN THE SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR, SOME THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS JUST A MILE AWAY.

WE GOT AN INTERCHANGE AND AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT COMMERCIAL GROWTH THROUGHOUT THAT THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR.

YOU KNOW, AS FOR ME, I I'VE BEEN HERE 34 YEARS NOW, AND I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS MORE ABOUT THIS BEING A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

AND AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN WORKING TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

RIGHT. AND HERE WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE HAVE THIS ALREADY COMMERCIAL, AND YET IT CAN IT BE A LOWE'S OR COULD IT BE A TANGIERS OUTLET MALL OR SOMETHING NEAR 95 AND STILL PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH THAT TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY? I JUST SEE THAT I'M I'M AT THE SAME LEVEL WHERE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY ANY OF OUR ZONED COMMERCIAL, SIR.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

IT WASN'T A QUESTION I JUST WANTED TO PIGGY BACK ON.

YOU KNOW, I WAS HOPING WITH YOU OR MR..

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT TANGO'S OUTLET, THEY WANT TO BE ON THE CORNER.

ON THE INTERSTATE. THIS IS WHERE? WAY FAR FROM THE CORNER.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS PROJECT.

OC LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT.

AND YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE NORFOLK LANDING, THAT COMMERCIAL TYPE OF INDUSTRY.

SO LOOKING BACK ON IT, SOMEONE JUST WAS KIND ENOUGH TO HAND ME A LASER POINTER THAT.

OK DOESN'T WORK. NO PROBLEM.

SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE WHITE PORTION THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER, WHICH IS THE SITE YOU JUST SHOWED THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE A LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT WITH A PUBLIX GROCERY STORE ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THE INTEREST JUST ISN'T THERE.

AND THEN IT BACKS UP TO A SINGLE FAMILY.

SO IF IT'S OK, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

I THINK WE'LL ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM JIM MCKNIGHT, IF THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE I THINK HE'S GOING TO HELP YOU WITH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. I'M JOE MCKNIGHT.

I'M THE LAND PLANNER FOR THE PROJECT.

AND YES, I SPENT 36 YEARS AS A CITY MANAGER, SO I KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS.

YOU DO HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS A PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED 20, 20 YEARS AGO.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH RECESSIONS, WE'VE GONE THROUGH COVID, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE EMPHASIS OF AMAZON AND ALL KINDS OF RETAIL DELIVERIES.

I MEAN, I LOOK AROUND WHERE I LIVE AND IT'S LIKE PACKAGE CENTRAL PEOPLE BEING DELIVERED.

AMAZON SPENDS MORE TIME ON THE STREET THAN I DO.

I THINK. SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE MIXED USE PROJECT.

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AND ONE THING I'LL GET TO IN JUST A MINUTE WILL BE THE LOCATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT HAS CHANGED AND YOU CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL THAT'S JUST GOING TO SIT VACANT AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY.

AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO HIT THIS, BUT LOOK WHAT ECOMMERCE HAS DONE AND WHAT IT WILL DO IN 2022.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A LOT.

AND THAT'S CHANGED. BRICK AND MORTAR IS NO LONGER BEING USED LIKE IT ONCE WAS.

IT'S JUST NOT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF EMPTY VACANT BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY.

SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE AMAZON EFFECT COVID CHANGED A LOT WITH WITH HYBRID WORK OPTIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME NOW.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT DURING THE DAY.

THERE'S ALSO WE'RE TRYING TO DO SUSTAINABLE BALANCE.

THERE'S EXCESS COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW.

BAYSIDE LAKES HAS 42% OF THEIR PROPERTY THAT WAS ZONED.

COMMERCIAL HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED.

WATERSTONE, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE NUMBERS.

I WON'T KEEP REPEATING THOSE.

BUT IN THE LAKES ITSELF, WHICH IS MORE OF A REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, I WILL AGREE THAT THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S NEXT TO 95 AND YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF COMMERCIAL IN THERE.

I THINK THE NUMBER IS ALMOST 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

AGAIN, ON AVERAGE, IT TAKES ABOUT 50,000 PEOPLE TO SUPPORT A GROCERY SHOPPING CENTER.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE THAT ARE USED.

WATERSTONE SIMPLY HAS TOO MUCH COMMERCIAL.

NOW WHAT WE ARE TAKING AWAY IS NOT REALLY FRONTAGE COMMERCIAL.

I'VE HEARD YOU SAY THAT, MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOME MORE FRONTAGE COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS BEHIND NOW.

THERE IS SOME FRONTAGE ON WHAT WOULD BE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT.

SO YOU'RE TAKING AWAY SOMETHING THAT IS NOT THE PRIME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY.

JAKE, DO YOU WANT TO HIT ON TRAFFIC? I'LL COME BACK. UH, AND JUST JUMPING BACK HERE REAL QUICK WITH OUR PROJECT WATERSTONE, WHEN IT WAS FIRST EVOLVING BACK TWO DECADES AGO.

NOW EMERALD LAKE'S WASN'T A PROJECT.

EMERALD LAKE'S HAS AGAIN ALMOST TWO AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET.

AND THE FRONTAGE. THE LOWE'S.

THE HOME DEPOT'S. IF THEY ARE STARTING TO DEVELOP AGAIN RIGHT NOW, THEY THEY'RE NOT.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THAT HIGHER VISIBILITY, THAT ACCESS TO 95.

SO OUR COMMERCIAL NOW WHICH WAS DIFFERENT THAN BACK THEN BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PRIME COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SERVICE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL. WE'RE KIND OF SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN THE BAY SIDE LAKES AND EMERALD LAKES.

WE'RE KIND OF THE BALONEY OF THE SANDWICH, IF YOU WILL.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS OUR FEAR IS THAT COMMERCIAL JUST SITS AND IT'S NEVER DEVELOPED.

THE MULTIFAMILY IS NOT ONLY GOING TO SUPPORT AND MAKE VALUABLE THE REST OF THAT COMMERCIAL, IT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE TAXES JUST LIKE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT IS HOW IT'S TAXED.

JUST REAL QUICK, WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC, THIS USE AS RESIDENTIAL, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, MUCH LESS INTENSE.

IT'D BE ABOUT A 98% DECREASE IN TRAFFIC, NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE WALKABILITY OF IT VERSUS IF IT WAS DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL.

SO, JIM, CONTINUE THAT.

THANK YOU, JAKE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE LOOKED AT IS WHAT ARE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER COMMERCIAL ACRE WE HAVE GIVEN YOU ON THE CHART? PALM VISTA, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 67 UNITS PER COMMERCIAL ACRE CURRENTLY IN WATERSTONE CYPRESS BAY.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT 17 UNITS PER COMMERCIAL AREA.

IF YOU DEVELOPED THE MULTIFAMILY, IT WOULD CHANGE IT TO 28 UNITS PER COMMERCIAL AREA.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO CONSIDER WHAT WILL SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

LET ME MOVE ONTO THE NEXT THING.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS IS TWO AND ONE HALF TIMES MORE COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER COMMERCIAL.

HERE YOU HAVE A LOOK AT BAYSIDE LAKES.

IF THIS PROJECT IS IS APPROVED, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 28 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THIS IS EVERYTHING OUT THERE.

THE NUMBERS YOU'VE HEARD, PLUS THE ONES WE WOULD BE ADDING.

VERSUS BAYSIDE LAKES, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 30.

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SO THIS WOULD STILL BE LESS RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER COMMERCIAL ACRE IF IT IS APPROVED.

THIS IS SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO.

PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT RIGHT HERE, THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER.

YOU'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY, THAT IS TO THE WEST, THE BLUE.

YOU'VE GOT OUR COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE AND IT DOESN'T SHOW ALL THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THIS AS WELL.

BUT WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO, I CAN ASSURE YOU, FROM A CITY MANAGER STANDPOINT, YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT A LOWES BACK UP TO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

IT'S GOT ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THIS IS A NATURAL TRANSITIONAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE WEST AND THE COMMERCIAL THAT IS TO THE EAST ALONG.

YOU EVEN HAVE A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE PUBLIC IS SUPPOSED TO GO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE EASEMENT OF FPL AND YOU HAVE SOME STORMWATER LAKES.

SO YOU'VE CREATED A NICE BUFFER ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE ON THIS SIDE.

SO THE MULTIFAMILY WOULD SERVE AS A TRANSITION.

IT'S A NORMAL STEP DOWN IN ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY TO COMMERCIAL.

AGAIN, THERE'S A NEED THROUGHOUT OUR AREA FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING.

HOUSING SUPPLY IS A PROBLEM.

WE WANT TO SEE PEOPLE HAVE HOUSING THAT IS ATTAINABLE BOTH IN THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY AND THROUGHOUT BREVARD COUNTY.

WE'VE ALSO DONE AN IMPACT FEE ANALYSIS.

THAT SUBJECT HAS COME BACK UP, OBVIOUSLY.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE REVIEWING THAT AS YOU'RE REVIEWING YOUR COMP PLAN AS WELL BASED ON TODAY'S CURRENT ADOPTED RATES FOR IMPACT FEES.

THE MULTIFAMILY WOULD PRODUCE BASICALLY DOUBLE WHAT COMMERCIAL WOULD CREATE.

YET IN SOME CASES LIKE TRAFFIC, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS TRAFFIC THAN IF IT WERE DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT NOW IN THE AREA THAT IS SHOWN THERE, YOU HAVE A 97% OCCUPANCY RATE.

SO THERE DEFINITELY IS A DEMAND WHEN YOU HAVE THAT OR MULTIFAMILY AND THERE'S NOT A LOT IN THIS AREA.

THERE'S VERY LITTLE TO COMPARE AGAINST.

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO APPLES TO APPLES WHEN YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY IN THIS AREA.

WHAT YOU DO HAVE IN THE AREA OF PALM BAY IS YOU HAVE A VERY HIGH OCCUPANCY RATE, WHICH TELLS ME WE NEED MORE UNITS IN THE AREA.

WE. USED HANK FISHKIN, WHO'S ONE OF THE LEADING ECONOMISTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND HE DID A STUDY.

HE NOTED THAT THERE WERE LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS IN THIS MARKET.

UNITS WOULD BE QUICKLY ABSORBED.

THERE IS STRONG MARKET SUPPORT.

AND BASICALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT WITHIN FIVE YEARS AND THAT INCLUDES TIME TO BUILD ALL THIS, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A FULL ABSORPTION RATE IN THIS AREA.

AND THAT WAS DONE AGAIN BY MR. FISHKIN, WHO'S ONE OF THE LEADING ECONOMISTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO YOUR BUDGET.

MULTIFAMILY WOULD GENERATE BETWEEN A PLANNING HORIZON OF 2025 TO 2050, ABOUT $70 MILLION OVER THAT LIFE COMMERCIAL IF IT WERE DEVELOPED AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT IS THAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT 18 MILLION.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO AND ONE HALF TIMES MORE REVENUE FOR YOUR OPERATING BUDGET FROM MULTIFAMILY THAN YOU WOULD GET FROM COMMERCIAL.

WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT FOR ANY CITY, AND CERTAINLY I'M SURE IT IS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS WELL.

THE MULTIFAMILY GENERATES HIGHER AGGREGATE SPENDING.

IT'S A HIGHER NET REVENUE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY PROJECT CREATES WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE A BETTER REVENUE BASE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

ADDRESSES HE'S GOING TO ADDRESS THIS ONE ABOUT.

IN THIS CASE, YOU'RE SEEING ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL.

YOU'RE GETTING TO SEE WHAT WOULD REMAIN ONCE THIS IS ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY.

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IT WILL BE 108, 127 ACRES.

AND THE WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS NOT IN THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE FRANCHISE IS STILL COMMERCIAL, WHICH WHAT IT NEEDS AND THE COMMERCIAL ALWAYS NEEDS RESIDENTIAL NEAR IT.

SO THIS IS ALL WALKING DISTANCE APARTMENT.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ASSET TO IT.

SO I'LL I'LL WRAP THIS UP FOR EVERYBODY HERE.

SO THE BENEFITS OF THE PROPOSAL, JUST AS A SUMMARY AND JIM STATED, BETTER THAN I CAN WANT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ERROR THAN WHEN THIS MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE WITH PRE AMAZON EFFECT.

PRE COVID EFFECT ADDRESSES THE CURRENT MACROECONOMIC TRENDS.

IT WILL HELP SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL THAT WE KNOW THIS COUNCIL SO BADLY DESIRES.

THERE IS NOTHING MORE THAN WE WANT THAN THAT COMMERCIAL TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND WE BELIEVE IN OUR EXPERIENCED TEAM HAS DONE OTHER SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS.

THIS WILL DO THAT.

THIS IS THE BALONEY AND THE SANDWICH BETWEEN BAYSIDE LAKES AND EMERALD LAKES.

BAYSIDE LAKES HAS 73 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.

IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE STILL HAVE 120 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.

BAYSIDE LAKES IS FULLY BUILT OUT WITH STILL 42% OF THEIR COMMERCIAL NOT DEVELOPED.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HERE.

WE ALSO HAVE EMERALD LAKES TO THE EAST, WHICH HAS ALL THE VISIBILITY, ALL FOUR QUADRANTS OF THE INTERCHANGE.

IT'S AUTHORIZED, ALLOWED FOR UP TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL.

SO WE BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER BALANCE FOR THIS PROJECT.

IN TODAY'S TIMES, AS JIM MENTIONED, THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS A BIG BUFFER WITH AN EASEMENT PLUS A LARGE STORM POND. THIS AREA DOES NOT THIS AREA BACKS UP RIGHT AGAINST THE SINGLE FAMILY.

SO GOING FROM THE MULTIFAMILY EXCUSE ME, THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE MULTI FAMILY TRANSITION AND BUFFER TO THE FRONTAGE COMMERCIAL, WHICH WE HAVEN'T LOST ANY OF WE THINK IS A GREAT STEP DOWN IN ZONING.

THIS BRINGS IN A MUCH NEEDED SUPPLY WITH A DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

THAT SECOND SLIDE I SHOWED YOU ZERO MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THIS ENTIRE 1200 ACRE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT IS THE MOST DESIRED USE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S MUCH LESS INTENSE THAN IF IT WAS DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL.

AND AGAIN, OUR FEAR IS THAT IT WOULDN'T BE AND THEN HAS HIGHER IMPACT FEES AND ALL THE OTHER ECONOMIC BENEFITS WE SHOWED YOU EARLIER.

IT IS TAXED THE SAME WAY AS COMMERCIAL AS YOU'RE AWARE.

AND IT DOES CREATE THAT TRUE, WALKABLE COMMUNITY SHOWED YOU ALL THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THE SIDEWALKS, TAKING THE TRIPS OFF OF BABCOCK STREET, HAVING THAT COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE WITH THAT.

THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE THINK, IS WHAT WOULD MAKE ALL OF THIS COMMERCIAL BE SUCCESSFUL.

IT HELPS SUPPORT EMERALD LAKES.

WE THINK IT WILL HELP SUPPORT BAYSIDE LAKES.

WE HAVE A PUBLIX IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

WE HAVE A PUBLIX THAT'S COMING FORWARD HERE, AND THIS WILL HELP ACCELERATE THAT AS WELL FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE PUBLIX.

SO THAT BEING SAID, APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US GO THROUGH IT.

THIS IS AGAIN, FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM AND THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

SO WE WON'T DO THIS PRESENTATION TWICE AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION.

MR. MCKNIGHT. MR. WISE.

THERE YOU GO, SIR.

AND BUT I WILL SAY, I STILL DO HAVE CONCERNS ON JUST LETTING IT GO RIGHT NOW.

BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO ASK, WHICH I'M SEEING IS MORE POPULAR AMONGST AMERICA, AND WE'VE HAD A FEW PROJECTS APPROVED HERE IN REGARDS TO BEING MIXED USE WHERE THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR OR UP TOWARDS THE FRONT AND THEN OVER TOP THEY HAVE MULTIFAMILY.

SO IT'S A MIXED BALANCE.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAD THAT WITH THE CELEBRATION SQUARE PROJECT.

UM. CELEBRATION SQUARE US ONE.

YEP. OKAY. YES.

YES, MR. FISHER, YOU'RE RIGHT.

YEP. YEAH. SO THAT WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE WHERE THEY DID HAVE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THEY HAD COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, SO.

WAS THAT EVER DISCUSSED OR.

YEAH. JUST QUICKLY WITH THAT, WE'VE TRIED THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF BREVARD COUNTY TO DATE.

IT HASN'T BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, BUT IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL.

IT WOULD BE ON THE FRONTAGE.

SO TO HAVE THAT MIXED USE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FRONTAGE OF THE PARKWAY OR THE FRONTAGE OF BABCOCK.

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THAT'S EXACTLY PART OF OUR VISION IS TO SEE THAT COMING.

BUT THE COMMERCIAL PART OF IT, FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AGAIN, WE THINK NEEDS THIS MULTIFAMILY.

BUT YEAH, IF IT WAS IF YOU DID THE MIXED USE IN THE BACK IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT WOULD NOT BE SUCCESSFUL.

IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE MAIN CORRIDORS.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.

I'M SORRY, I. FORGOT YOUR NAME, SIR.

I DON'T MEAN THE POINT OF TAKING THE REST.

UM. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE FIRST QUESTION COMES TO MY MIND IS.

PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE STATION.

POLICE STATION. I KNOW.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? PUBLIC SAFETY. YEAH.

NOT AN EXPERT IN PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT WE WOULD FOLLOW ALL THE RULES THAT THE COUNTY REQUIRES.

AND TOO MUCH LAND SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY WAS.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO ASK THE ENGINEER HERE.

SO THE PREVIOUS SIX AND A HALF ACRES THAT YOU REZONE, THAT WAS OUR WHERE WE WANTED TO PUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION OF IT.

BUT THE POLICE CHIEF AND FIRE CHIEF AND YOUR UTILITY DIRECTOR ALL PREFERRED IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER EAST ON EMERALD LAKE.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SITE PLAN INTO THE CITY RIGHT NOW THAT HAS A POLICE FIRE AND WATER TANK SITE.

SO THAT WAS JUST THE PREFERENCE OF THE CITY.

OKAY. OKAY, I GOT THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND.

YOU KNOW, WE SAY COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL.

BUT COMMERCIAL IS CHANGING IN AMERICA.

IT IS THAT YOU SAY THAT.

YOU DO THESE PROJECTS IN ORLANDO, RIGHT? YES. DO YOU HAVE A PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS IN ORLANDO? WE DO HAVE A PROJECT WHERE THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THERE'S A PUBLIX AND THIS OUT PARCELS JUST LIKE THIS.

AND WHAT WE'RE NOTICING IS THE OUT PARCELS, THE THE RESTAURANTS WANT DRIVE THRUS NOW.

SO THEY WANT THE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THROUGH COVID, THEY COULDN'T SERVE THEM IN THE RESTAURANT.

THEY WERE SERVING IT THROUGH DRIVE THRUS.

SO WE NOTICING COMPANIES LIKE STARBUCKS, THEY WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST 8 TO 10 CARS LINED UP SO THEY CAN SERVE THEM.

WE'RE SEEING CHICK FIL A.

THEY WANT TO HAVE DUAL LANES WITH 8 TO 10 CARS IN EACH.

SO WE'RE SEEING PARCELS, LARGER PARCELS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING, TWO AND A HALF ACRE PARCELS FOR COMMERCIAL QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS.

RIGHT. AND I REALLY LIKE YOUR PLAN BECAUSE THE WALKABILITY.

SO THAT'S LESS CARS ON THE ROAD.

YES. MORE PEOPLE SAFE.

NOT ONLY THEY CAN WALK FROM THIS PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY WHAT YOU PROPOSING BUT THEY COULD WALK FROM MALATE AND WALK OVER AND ENJOY THE COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

BUT WHAT I WHAT I MEANT, MY POINT WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET IS YOU DID THIS PROJECT.

YOU DID A PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS IN ORLANDO.

HAS IT BEEN SUCCESSFUL? IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AND THE COMMERCIAL, WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL? OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT ON THE COMMERCIAL, WE'VE GOT HEARTLAND DENTAL HAS TAKEN A PIECE AND WE'VE GOT WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH STARBUCKS COFFEE, WE'VE GOT A CAR WASH, WE'VE GOT SOME QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS.

AND THAT'S ABOUT IT, REALLY.

AND WHAT'S THE.

BECAUSE YOU.

YOU YOU PROVE MY POINT.

MOST OF THESE COMMERCIALS ARE SERVICE TYPE COMMERCIALS, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE A BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX AT THIS PROJECT? YES. AND THAT FEEDS TO THE SERVICE TYPE INDUSTRY.

THAT'S THAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL.

SO THESE BIG BOX STORES.

AMAZON IS JUST LIKE AMAZON.

WALMART IS TAKING ALL OF THIS UP.

AND THERE THEY ARE.

THEY'RE TAKING A LOT OF SO SMALL BUSINESSES, SO THAT GREEN.

YOU PUT THE GREEN. SLIDE WAS.

YEAH. SO YOU GET TO MAKE ALL THAT GREEN.

GREEN. OKAY.

WE NEED PEOPLE IN THE STORES.

YES, WE NEED PEOPLE LIVING NEAR THERE.

RIGHT. AND RESIDENTIAL.

I DON'T KNOW. THEY SPEND MORE THAN PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, BUT.

EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST AS MUCH PEOPLE IN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THEN IN YOUR RESIDENTIAL AREA AS FAR AS POPULATION RISE, RIGHT? YES. SO THAT WILL HELP.

YEAH. AND ALSO, WHEN YOU SEE SO MANY RESIDENCES AS WELL, THERE'S A CHARTER SCHOOL THAT'S INTERESTED, RIGHT? THEY WANT TO PUT A CHARTER SCHOOL THERE.

AGAIN, THE WALKABILITY TO THE APARTMENTS IS A VERY GOOD THING AS WELL.

SO JUST. YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE COLOR GREEN.

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I LIKE YOUR PROJECT.

I REALLY DO. I THINK. I THINK.

I THINK YOU'VE MADE THE RIGHT MIX.

THE WALKABILITY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

THE SAFETY THAT SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING SENIORS DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR TO SHOP.

ENJOY TO GO TO THE DENTIST OR GO TO A BANK OR GO TO A SUBWAY OR CHICK FIL A OR WHATEVER MIGHT GO THERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE SOME TYPE OF SERVICE BUSINESS.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YOUR PROJECT.

YES. IN ORLANDO.

YES. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THAT'S THE POINT.

I WANT TO GET IT OUT.

BUT I WANTED YOU TO SAY INSTEAD OF ME SAYING IT, THANK YOU.

SO THOSE ARE RENTAL FACILITIES.

THESE ARE. THIS WILL BE RENTAL? YES. WHY NOT CONDOMINIUMS? I TELL YOU, THE CONDOMINIUMS OF GENERAL CONTRACTORS WILL NOT BUILD CONDOMINIUMS BECAUSE THERE ARE LAWSUITS AGAINST ALL CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPERS AS SOON AS THEY BUILD THEM.

THEY GET SUED.

SO WE AS AS A DEVELOPER WILL NEVER BUILD CONDOMINIUMS. IT'S INTERESTING, WE JUST RECENTLY HAD A PROJECT.

THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL FOR CONDOS.

JILL DADDY GOLF COURSE, IF YOU REMEMBER.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

NO QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE DISCUSSION.

YES, SIR. SO YOU KNOW HOW FREQUENT WE WERE HERE.

AND I THINK IT WAS MR. BOOZMAN, ACTUALLY, THAT BROUGHT FORTH THAT CONDO PROJECT.

CALL THEM OUT. BUT I SEE HIM HERE.

I KNOW HE'S HERE, BUT WE FOR THE REASONS HE JUST SAID, AND SO MANY OTHER REASONS.

CONDOMINIUMS SCARE PEOPLE TYPICALLY FROM THE MARKET.

WE ARE DOING TEN ZOOMERS LIKE THEM, THOUGH.

I BELIEVE WHAT WE'VE FOUND WITH OUR CLIENTS THAT HAVE DONE THEM IN THE PAST, THEY'RE NOT MARKETABLE NOW UNLESS THEY'RE ON THE OCEAN OR ON THE RIVER.

IF YOU LOOK AT CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS, THAT'S ALL WE SEE ARE THOSE SPECIFIC.

AND MOST ENGINEERING COMPANIES, MOST CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES WON'T TOUCH THEM BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

BUT SINCE THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS UNLESS IT WAS DIRECTLY ON THE OCEAN OR ON THE RIVER, IF THAT HELPS.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. A SPEAKER CALLED PHILIP CORCORAN.

PHILLIP CORCORAN 1878 WHEN BROOK DRIVE AS I GO THROUGH THIS AND I SEE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT ON THE CORNER OF ROUTE 95 AND, AND HERITAGE PARKWAY, I SEE A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

I SEE EVERYBODY POINTING AT THE OTHER GUY, OH, HIS FIRE.

THE FIRST STATION IS GOING TO BE OVER ON HIS IT'S GOING TO BE OVER HERE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.

EVERYBODY'S JUST KIND OF POINTING TO THE OTHER GUY.

I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF.

I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT HOUSES AND DEVELOPMENTS AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY FLESHED OUT THE SERVICES AND THE SCHOOLS AND THE ROADS.

I THINK COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I THINK IN THE PAST YEAR HAVE SAID WHY WASN'T THE HERITAGE PARKWAY UP BY HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL MADE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION? WELL, BABCOCK ROAD, ONE LANE AND INDOOR IN EACH DIRECTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'LL BE IN THIS TIME FRAME, BUT RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE PRETTY CROWDED DOWN THAT WAY AS IT IS UP HERE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF PALM BAY.

I SEE RECREATION.

I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE ASKED JAKE THIS QUESTION BEFORE, AND HE'LL COME OVER AND SAY, OH, WE GOT ALL KINDS OF RECREATION, SO I'LL ASK.

SPECIFICALLY, EMERALD LAKE'S ORIGINALLY HAD A GOLF COURSE, AND ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS THE GOLF COURSE IN THESE DESIGNS IN THIS AREA.

I, I HATE TO POINT IT OUT AGAIN, BUT MELBOURNE HAS SEVEN GOLF VENUES.

WE HAVE NONE RIGHT NOW.

SO ALSO I NOTICED THAT THEY HIGHLIGHTED ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THEIR FAVOR, BUT THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT SCHOOLS.

I THINK YOU DO A STUDY.

RENTALS TEND TO ERODE THE TAX BASE DUE TO THE SCHOOLS, RIGHT? RENTALS TEND TO BRING IN A YOUNGER CROWD.

MORE FAMILIES, MORE KIDS, MORE SCHOOLS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY FOR YOU.

AS INDIVIDUALS ARE CHANGING COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

YOU RAN ON WE NEED COMMERCIAL, NOT THE RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS PRIME COMMERCIAL LOCATION AND IT'S 38 ACRES WE'RE HAVING ALREADY HAVING A PROBLEM TRYING TO DECIDE WHERE DO WE WANT THE COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WELL, HERE'S 38 ACRES.

IT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT. WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS THIS THIS DEVELOPER MAKING CLAIMS THAT ANOTHER DEVELOPER WILL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO HANDLE THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AT ANOTHER LOCATION, I.E.

EMERALD LAKES, I.E.

BAYSIDE LAKES.

REMEMBER, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL CONCEPT DEVELOPER WHO WAS MAKING THIS REQUEST THAT SOLD THE BILL OF GOODS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT CONSISTED OF BAYSIDE LAKES.

THAT IS NOT COMPLETED YET.

AND EMERALD CITY SAME, THE SAME PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROGRAMS THAT IS NOT COMPLETED YET.

HOWEVER, THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY SOUTH, THE WEST SIDE OF IT IS COMPLETE AT A COST OF $9 MILLION TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

AND WE HAVE TO PAY ON THAT EVERY YEAR AND THAT'S OUR BOND PAYBACK.

REMEMBER THE DEVELOPER THAT'S MAKING THIS REQUEST NOW HAS KNOWN ALL ALONG THAT THERE WAS A SHORTFALL OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY.

THEY'VE KNOWN THAT ALL ALONG.

I NOTICE THEY GOT THEIR HOUSES PLAN PORTION IN THERE.

NOW THEY SAY, NOW LET'S TAKE SOME OF THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND LET'S MAKE THAT THE THING THAT THE CITY REALLY NEEDED, WHICH WAS THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST DABBLE YOUR FISH HOOK IN THE WATER AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET A NIBBLE ONCE IT GETS APPROVED AND YOU GET THAT FISH HOOKED, YOU SET IT.

NOW YOU'VE GOT THEM HOOKED.

I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD AND MAKE MAKE A MISTAKE OF LOSING WHAT THEY ALREADY HAD.

TWO DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY THIS DEVELOPER OR STILL NOT COMPLETED.

EMERALD LAKES AND BAYSIDE LAKES.

AND THEY'RE STILL NOT COMPLETED.

SO LET'S DON'T BE CHANGING HORSES MIDSTREAM.

YOU END UP WITH YOUR BOOTS FULL OF WATER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I LIKE THAT ANALOGY.

ROBERT STICE.

ROBERT IS 1796 WHEN MERCK ARRIVED SOUTHEAST.

UNLESS MORATORIUM MEETING.

MR. FOSTER YOU SAID WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS HERE.

PALM BAY. EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT ZONING AND THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS TRAFFIC.

TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC.

TRAFFIC DOESN'T MOVE EFFICIENTLY NOW.

SO I JUST DID THE MATH REAL QUICK WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE PLANNED AND WHAT THESE GUYS HAVE PLANNED.

WE'LL ADD ANOTHER 14,454 TOTAL VEHICLES.

THAT'S ONLY IF THERE'S TWO RESIDENTS PER HOUSEHOLD.

NOW. SOME OF THE BOGUS STUFF THAT I HEAR IS WE GOT 55 PLUS COMMUNITY IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, ENOUGH TRAFFIC.

THAT'S TOTAL BULL.

WE HAVE A BUNCH OF RETIRED PEOPLE IN MY HOA.

THESE GUYS ARE BUSIER THAN EVER BEFORE.

SO AM I.

TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING DOWN.

THE OTHER THING IS, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS NOW? THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT TO HEAR.

AND THEY'RE OUT OF HERE.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THREE YEARS FROM NOW? COUNCIL. WHEN DOES NOT LOOKING? FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

ALL RIGHT. AS WE CONTINUE TO DUMP THIS ON EVERYTHING PHIL MENTIONED, MENTIONED SCHOOLS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST NOT GETTING IT.

YOU KNOW, LET'S WAIT AND MOVE THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BEDSIDE COMMUNITY CALLED PALM BAY THAT'S ABSOLUTELY STAGNANT AS FAR AS MOVING TRAFFIC.

YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING THE CLAIMS THAT JUST AREN'T TRUE.

THE OTHER THING IS I HAD A PEOPLE OVER FOR DINNER THE OTHER NIGHT.

THEY'RE IN THEIR SEVENTIES.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE RENT.

THEY'RE MOVING UP TO JACKSONVILLE WITH THEIR KIDS.

MORE AND MORE PEOPLE, BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY, ARE MOVING IN WITH THEIR PARENTS OR KIDS OR ARE RENTING A PLACE, AND IT'S LESS FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

I MEAN, YOU GO TO COLLEGE OR WHATNOT, YOU SHARE A HOUSE WITH FOUR OTHER PEOPLE.

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THAT'S THE DYNAMICS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

AND MORE AND MORE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE GUYS, IF THEY READ MAD MAGAZINE OR WHATNOT, BUT EVERYTHING THAT I READ OK MORE EMPLOYEES WANT TO GET THAT THAT PEOPLE BACK INTO THE OFFICE.

NOW, I KNOW THERE'S A PART OF THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE ARE WORKING AT HOME.

I GET THAT.

BUT IF YOU'RE A MANAGER AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK DOWN A HALL, TALK TO SOMEBODY.

SO DYNAMICS IS CHANGING, BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THERE IS JUST BAIT, AS BILL WAS ALLUDING TO, TAKE A NIBBLE AND HAVE IT.

THE OTHER THING IS HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S DON'T BACK UP TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN ANY STATE THAT I'VE BEEN IN.

THEY HAPPEN. SO YOU GOT TO CHECK THE BOX HERE AND THESE BOXES AREN'T REAL GOOD.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

THANK YOU. ANY.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM OR AGAINST THIS ITEM IN THE AUDIENCE? ANYONE. MR. WISE, WOULD YOU WANT TO READDRESS.

THANK YOU. I'LL JUST RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD.

EMERALD LAKE'S HAD A GOLF COURSE WITH A PRIOR DEVELOPER.

IT'S NOT THE SAME DEVELOPER AS TODAY, SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS EVER PART OF THE CURRENT LAKE'S DEVELOPMENT.

YOU SEE GOLF COURSES FAILING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

IT'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY A MAJOR ISSUE FOR BOMBAY, MELBOURNE AND OTHER CITIES AS WELL.

OUR CLIENT HAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'RE ALREADY TALKING TO A CHARTER SCHOOL.

WE HAVE A SITE ALREADY PICKED OUT FOR THEM, ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL LOCAL CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO.

WE KNOW WE NEED THIS THAT SUPPORT AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL ABOUT NOT ONLY GOING HERE, BUT ALSO IN A COUPLE OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS.

SO THAT IS ALL ONGOING RIGHT NOW.

THE RENTALS, THE 55 PLUS, WE NEVER SAID THEY GENERATE LESS TRIPS.

THEY'RE PRETTY ACTIVE. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE EARLIER SLIDE IS IF THIS IS A DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL, IT IS A 98% INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS GENERATED FOR TRAFFIC. THEN THIS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT IS THAT LESS INTENSE THAN THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN TAKE IN THE WALKABILITY AND TRYING TO GET THOSE TRIPS OFF OF BABCOCK STREET.

I HEARD ABOUT THE NOT WANTING TO LOSE THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL.

SO RIGHT HERE IS 159 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL WITH OUR PROJECT NOT BEING APPROVED.

IF IT IS APPROVED.

WE HAVE 121 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL MINUS THE PUBLIC'S.

THIS GENTLEMAN AND HIS TEAM WILL OWN ALL OF THIS.

THEY'RE NOT LEAVING TOWN.

THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE THIS INVESTMENT BECAUSE THEY SEE THIS AS AN ABSOLUTE SHINING LIGHT IN THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD FOR A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT AND FOR THEM AS EXPERIENCED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

THEY THINK THAT THIS IS NEEDED.

AND WE WOULD AGREE IN TODAY'S ECONOMY.

IT'S JUST MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT USED TO BE.

THIS I HEARD SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT QUITTING THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE BACKS OF ANOTHER PROJECT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

YOUR PRIME MEGA COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE ON THE INTERCHANGE, SO THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE OVER IN THAT DIRECTION, JUST LIKE BAYSIDE LAKES HAS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

I HEARD YOU LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.

I GO TO MORE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND PROBABLY MOST I GO TO A LOT OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT I HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY IS WE WANT MORE COMMERCIAL, WE WANT MORE RESTAURANTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WE CAN MAKE SUCCESSFUL IF THIS PROJECT CAN BE APPROVED, IS TO TRY TO HELP THEM.

WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, OF COURSE, FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE OBJECTIONS AND WE HAD A HUGE TURNOUT.

WE FILLED UP AN ENTIRE CONFERENCE ROOM AT THE HOLIDAY INN, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST BACK AND FORTH Q&A I'VE EVER SEEN AT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THEM HERE OPPOSING US.

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND US ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THEY SAW HOW IT COULD MAKE THE COMMERCIAL THAT THEY WANT SUCCESSFUL EARLY.

I FORGET WHO SAID IT, BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT.

ALL OF THAT COMMERCIAL BEHIND RESIDENTIAL EXCUSE ME, BEHIND US THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW VERTICALLY AND HORIZONTALLY IN ALL GET TO THIS COMMERCIAL

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WE HAVE BIG WIDE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE SET UP FOR BICYCLES, FOR GOLF CARTS, FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT COMMERCIAL.

WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT HELP WITH THAT TRAFFIC.

SEE. SORRY, I JUST READ MY NOTES TO MAKE SURE I HIT ON ALL THE POINTS.

OH, I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER FOR BAYSIDE LAKES.

THIS IS NOT THE DEVELOPER.

THIS IS YOUR DEVELOPER.

THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.

THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER FOR BAYSIDE LAKES THAT IS SELLING ALL THIS PROPERTY.

POTENTIALLY, IF APPROVED TONIGHT.

HE DOESN'T DO MULTIFAMILY.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS NEVER PART OF IT.

AND IT WAS DESIGNED AGAIN BACK IN A VERY DIFFERENT TIME.

SO MY PERSONAL FEAR IS THAT IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED, THIS COMMERCIAL SITS VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THERE'S 73 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL LAND IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

BAYSIDE LAKES IS FULLY DEVELOPED NOW.

42% OF THE COMMERCIAL IS SITTING VACANT.

WE HAVE 157 ACRES HERE.

WE'RE ASKING FOR IT TO BE REDUCED BY 38.

WE JUST INCREASED IT BY SIX AND A HALF A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TONIGHT.

AND WE THINK THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE VIABLE THAT MUCH COMMERCIAL WITHOUT THIS TYPE OF PROJECT BEING APPROVED.

WHEN WE BROUGHT STAFF, THEY LOVED IT, ESPECIALLY THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFERING THAT IT CREATES.

WE'RE GOING FROM THAT SINGLE FAMILY TO THE MULTI FAMILY.

WE HAVE A MIX OF AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY AND MARKET RATE APARTMENTS.

THOSE APARTMENTS HAVE PRETTY HIGH RENTS, AND SO THEY DO HAVE DISPOSABLE INCOME.

AND WE SEE ALL AGES.

WE SEE SOME FAMILIES.

WE SEE A LOT OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS.

IF YOU READ FLORIDA TODAY, THIS WEEK, YOU SAW TWO HUGE NEW PROJECTS COMING IN TO MELBOURNE AIRPORT.

THESE ARE THE TYPES OF RESIDENTS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND THERE'S ALMOST NO PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE IN THIS WHOLE REGION.

AND SO WE ARE 1,000% CONFIDENT IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL FOR NOT ONLY THIS SPECIFIC USE, BUT AGAIN, TO HELP THAT COMMERCIAL AND TO SUPPORT EMERALD LAKES ON THE ENGINEER FOR THAT PROJECT.

WE THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT SUPPORT FOR THE EMERALD LAKES PROJECT, WHICH OF COURSE WE ALL WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO THAT BEING SAID, WE DID HAVE THE SUPPORT OF STAFF.

THE NEIGHBORS SEEM TO SUPPORT IT WITH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

THE ONE CRITIQUE WE HAD WAS THAT OUR PRESENTATION RAN TOO LONG, WHICH IS FAIR.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, JUST A FINAL WRAP UP.

MY SON'S FIRST NIGHT TONIGHT REALLY HOPING TO BAT 1000.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL HAS ALSO ANY QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN. YEAH, I.

I REALLY WANT TO ASK SOME.

COMMISSIONER FISHER.

QUESTION BUT MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER IT, MR. WISE. IN VIENNA.

UP IN VIENNA. HAVE YOU HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA? WE'VE DONE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL UP THERE.

RIGHT. AND.

SIMILAR TO VIAGRA.

YOU HAD STARTED OFF WITH REALLY NICE HOMES, A VERY EXPENSIVE HOME, BUT NOW YOU SEE A LOT OF APARTMENTS.

AM I RIGHT? YES.

AND THE COMMERCIAL IS BOOMING UP THERE.

AND. YES. AND MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL IS.

RESTAURANTS, SERVICE TYPE COMMERCIAL.

ALL THAT MONEY IN VIAGRA.

WISH I COULD LIVE UP THERE, BUT I CAN'T.

I BE OFF THE CITY COUNCIL IF I DID.

BUT WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT EITHER.

I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER FISHER WAS ON A COUNTY COMMISSION FOR A LONG TIME.

HE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH APPROVING STUFF LIKE THAT, LIKE WE HAVE.

SO YOU WAS PART OF THAT AND.

YOU SEE ALL THE APARTMENTS THERE? THERE'S A LOT OF WALKABILITY IN VIEIRA.

YOU SEE THIS MAYBE BE A FUTURE VIAGRA TYPE COMMERCIAL AREA.

WE SEE THIS WHOLE REGION AS BEING EXACTLY THAT TO CREATE THAT DESTINATION.

WE DON'T WANT THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY LEAVING PALM BAY TO GO TO SUCCESSFUL RETAIL.

WE WANT THEM TO STAY HERE.

WE WANT TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, AND THAT IS THE RESTAURANTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TYPES OF USES LIKE THAT.

AND THEN HAMMOCK LANDINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT ON THE 95 INTERCHANGE, BIG BOXES, SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT EMERALD LAKES HAS CREATED.

RIGHT ON 1985, ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT OF ACREAGE, BIG BOXES READY TO GO.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE THINK THAT SHOULD BE.

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SO BECAUSE I'M LOOKING BEYOND TOMORROW.

WITH EMIRATES COMING.

AND THAT GREEN MAP YOU HAVE COULD BE FILLED UP REALLY QUICKLY.

SO WE HOPE A MORE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GAME CAN BE DEVELOPED.

SO I THINK WE GOT ONE SHOT, YOU KNOW.

LIKE AARON JUDGE.

YOU KNOW, HE CAME DOWN TO THE LAST GAME AND HIT THAT 62.

HE ONLY HAD FOUR AT BATS.

NEW YORK, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M A YANKEE FAN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE FOUR.

WE GOT ONE CHANCE TO GET THIS RIGHT.

SO WE GOT TO WE GOT TO SWING FOR THE FENCES AND BUT WE GOT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW? AND I HAVE FAITH BECAUSE I LOOKED AT YOUR ECONOMIC FINANCIAL IMPACT AND THE AVALON TAXES FOR THE COMMERCIAL PART.

IT'S 1.7 MILLION.

IN 2030.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 2050.

I MIGHT NOT BE AROUND IN 2050, BUT IN 2030 I HOPE I'LL BE AROUND 2030.

THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS $16 MILLION FOR THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE THAT YOU YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR.

I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR 16 POINT MILLION DOLLARS.

THE COMMERCIAL IS 1.1 1.0 MILLION AND THE AVALON TAX IS 957,000.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO PAY FOR OUR POLICE FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, THE PARKWAY PARKWAY, TO GET SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK.

LIKE BILL BATTEN SAID, I'M GOING TO GET ALL THAT MONEY BACK.

SO THOSE NUMBERS BLEW ME AWAY.

I WAS ABSOLUTELY DUMBFOUNDED.

I DID NOT THINK THEY WOULD BE AS POSITIVE AS THEY WERE.

AND THE DEVELOPERS SAID HE DID THIS IN ORLANDO WAS SUCCESSFUL.

THAT'S RIGHT. I'M DONE.

THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A QUESTION SINCE MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED VIEIRA.

RIGHT. SO I REMEMBER IN YOU KNOW, JUST JUST IF YOU'RE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT VIEIRA, THEN THEN PLEASE CORRECT ME.

BUT I REMEMBER IT WAS THE GOVERNMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT WENT TO VIEIRA, WHICH WAS PROPOSED.

IT WAS DUE TO BILL AT ONE POINT.

THERE WERE SOME WORDS ABOUT THAT, RIGHT.

AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THAT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS THERE.

THE AVENUES CAME LONG BEFORE ANY APARTMENT COMPLEXES OUT THERE.

AND NOW THEY HAVE A HOTEL.

IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.

I MEAN, YOU HAD VIEIRA, DON'T FORGET, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGH.

YEAH. YOU HAVE A GOLF COURSE OUT THERE? YEAH. IT'S ALMOST ALL RESIDENTIAL ON THE EAST SIDE THAT DEVELOPED FIRST.

AND I REMEMBER THAT GOVERNMENT CENTER, THOSE BUILDINGS SITTING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COW FIELD.

RIGHT? THIS WAS A COW FIELD NOT LONG AGO AS WELL.

AND THAT BUT THAT MALL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS THAT DI 95 FRONTAGE AND THAT EXPOSURE.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN THE DRY WHEN THAT WAS FIRST DONE.

THERE WAS A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE SOUTH, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE AVENUES BEFORE THE AVENUES WAS BUILT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THERE ARE OTHERS THAT HAVE COME SINCE, BUT THERE WAS A LARGE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE, ON THE NORTH SIDE, BY THE PARK, TOWARDS THE PARK AREA, TOWARDS THE REGIONAL PARK. THAT SMALL LITTLE APARTMENT OR THAT.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH, BUT THAT THE AVENUE WAS, WAS RIGHT ADJACENT.

NOW IT'S GOTTEN BIGGER AND LARGER AND YOU'VE GOT STILL NEW APARTMENTS GO INTO THE TO THE EAST AND NOW YOU HAVE THE APARTMENTS GOING.

ABSOLUTELY. COPY THAT.

YEAH, BUT I REMEMBER THE AVENUES BEING THERE AND THAT GENERATED A LOT OF BUSINESS AS WELL.

RIGHT, EXACTLY. AND OF COURSE, THEY BUILT IN PHASES AS WELL.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S TRUE TO SAY THAT THE AVENUES WAS INTACT AND THAT GENERATED MORE.

THOSE APARTMENTS THAT HOTELS, THE HOTELS THAT ARE THERE NOW, DEFINITELY THE HOTELS AND THE NEW APARTMENTS.

COPY THAT. THANK YOU, JIM.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WEISS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL FROM ANYONE THAT'S SPOKEN FROM STAFF BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MARY, IF I MAY.

IT'S WISE, MATE.

MADE REFERENCE TO BAYSIDE QUITE A BIT IN REGARDS OF 42% OF OF THE COMMERCIAL.

A STILL VACANT CAN STAFF EXPLAINED WHY AS TO IS THERE IS THERE A REASON BEHIND THAT AND WHAT CAUSED THAT? JUST CURIOUS. YEAH.

A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING IF ALEX, OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, WANTS TO ELABORATE MORE.

A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THE COMMERCIAL BROKERS OUT IN THE AREA IS THAT THEY'RE HAVING CHALLENGES WITH THE DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND THE RESTRICTIONS ON COMMERCIAL THAT WERE BUILT INTO THE BAYSIDE LAKES BEAUTY.

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AND FAIR COMPARISON.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT.

ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN, JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT WHY THAT IS.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME.

THE COMPARISON IS NOT FAIR.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

YEAH. I MEAN, WE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM DWAYNE WATSON AND HIS TEAM, JIM FORD, AND FOLKS THAT DO HAVE COMMERCIAL RETAILERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN LOCATING IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

BUT THE CHALLENGE IS THE DECLARATION OF COVENANTS, THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE WRITTEN THEIR COMMERCIAL USES.

SOME OF THE USES ARE NOT ALLOWED.

THEY HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD AND HAVE THE BOARD OF THAT AREA APPROVED TO ALLOW THAT USE.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT.

AND I'M SPEAKING JUST GENERALLY, BUT I'M SURE ALEX BERNARD OR PATRICIA SMITH COULD WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE SEEN AS STAFF LEVEL ON WHAT.

WHY? BAYSIDE LAKE'S COMMERCIAL HASN'T REALLY COME TO FRUITION.

SO THOSE GOVERNMENTS ARE PART OF THE WAY, THE PWD AND THE.

SO THERE'S A COMMERCIAL, THERE'S A POHA AND THEN THERE'S THE NATURE OF THE PLAN WITH THAT COUNCIL CAN DO.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER TOO MUCH ON BEHALF OF ALEX AND PATRICIA, BUT I KNOW THAT ALEX HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT IF PATRICIA HASN'T SEEN IT IN HER OFFICE YET, IT'S TO BE COMING.

DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH.

SINCE WE'RE ALREADY ON, I DO WANT TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE ITEM AT HAND, BUT SINCE WE'RE ALREADY ON THE TOP.

I'M TRYING. I'M DEBATING ON JUST DOING IT NOW OR DURING COUNCIL REPORTS, BUT I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL THAT WE ARE ON THIS ITEM.

SO. OKAY.

WHATEVER YOU GOT.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH.

IF YOU CAN SPEAK ON IT DURING COUNCIL REPORTS.

COUNCIL REPORTS? BECAUSE I DO WANT TO STICK TO.

YEAH. SO DON'T LEAVE EARLY.

THAT'S GREAT. YOU'RE PUTTING ON THE SPOT CAUSE THAT NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE A WHILE.

I'LL SHOW YOU IN A LITTLE WAY.

WAIT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TO HER, DO I? SO THE ATTORNEY SAYS STAY ON TOPIC.

SO I'M GOOD. THANK YOU.

WE'LL TALK LATER. OKAY.

MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO FINISH.

I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND.

BUT BUT JUST SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, I SUPPOSE, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT.

I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMIC.

WHAT? WHY? WHAT'S B WHAT'S BEHIND THAT? BUT JUST.

I MEAN. I THINK THE DEVELOPER, MR. WISE, DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING.

THERE'S A LOT OF DATA TO ME THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS ITEM QUITE A BIT.

I WILL SUPPORT IT AS IT IS.

I JUST WANTED TO. OKAY, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. 2449 RESIDENTIAL HOUSES BUILT OUT THERE THAT WE'VE APPROVED.

NO POLICE STATION, NO FIRE STATION.

SUNRISE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS NOT PROJECTED TO HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR THE TOTAL PROJECTED AND POTENTIAL STUDENTS FOR THE GROVE.

I ALSO WANT TO GO TO MR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S POINT OF THE TAX REVENUE.

SO THIS MULTIFAMILY IS GOING TO DO 2.58.5 EXTRA AND TAXABLE DOLLARS FOR INCOME FOR THE CITY.

HOW DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? BECAUSE THAT COULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IF YOU MIND, IF I MAY CONTINUE AND THEN.

OKAY. AND THEN WITH THE 2.5.

SO THERE WERE MULTIFAMILY IS GOING TO BRING IN 2.5 EXTRA DOLLARS AND TWO TIMES DOLLARS TO THE REVENUE IN THE CITY, YET REQUIRE 5 TO 6 TIMES THE SERVICES THAT COMMERCIAL WOULD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAYING THERE.

LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY THIS COUNCIL IS ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO I KNEW A GENTLEMAN ON THIS COUNCIL AND HE OPENED AN INTERCHANGE HIMSELF.

IT WAS CALLED PALM BAY ROAD INTERCHANGE.

PALM BAY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANNEX NORTH.

IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY AT THE TIME.

PALM BAY DECIDED, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANNEX NORTH BECAUSE IT'S SINGLE FAMILY.

WHAT DO WE NEED MORE SINGLE FAMILY FOR? SO WHAT'S MALBEC CAME DOWN SOUTH AND ANNEXED IT AND THEN CHANGED IT TO COMMERCIAL.

AND NOW RIGHT THERE IS HAMMOCK LANDING.

AND EVERY COUNCILMAN HERE BRINGS UP HAMMOCK LANDING, AND IT BRINGS UP THAT COUNCIL FROM 30 YEARS AGO.

WHY DON'T THEY JUST ANNEX NORTH? WHY DID THEY JUST ANNEX NORTH AND BUILD HAMMOCK LANDING? THAT'S THE REASON. SO NOW WE HAVE THE OPPOSITE HERE.

WE HAVE A BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL DOWN THERE ON A ON PRIME INTERCHANGE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO MULTIFAMILY.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.

THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? WE GOOD ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION.

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ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED SECOND.

YOU SECOND IT. OKAY, COPY THAT.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TO DENY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? COUNCILMAN? YES, MA'AM. I'LL BE BRIEF.

I UNDERSTOOD WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON THE DISCUSSION.

KEEPING THE DISCUSSION TO.

ONCE THE MOTION WAS MADE, AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS SAYING WE HAVE ONE SHOT AT IT.

BUT THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, AS WE WE POTENTIALLY HAVE MULTIPLE SHOTS AT IT WHERE, SAY DOWN THE LINE IT DOES SHOW, HEY, LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED MULTIFAMILY, MIXED USE OR EVEN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

WE CAN STILL HOLD ON TO THIS FOR NOW AT LEAST.

AND THEN AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS AREA, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE BETTER.

BUT I JUST I'M NOT COMFORTABLE AT THIS TIME LETTING GO.

OF THIS PIECE.

THAT'S. THAT'S.

THAT'S ALL, SIR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, YOU SECOND THE MOTION.

ANY COMMENT? NO FURTHER COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. OK. I GOT A MOTION TO DENY BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PHILLIP BERTO.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY FOR YOU.

HELLO. CAN I SPEAK? CARRY ON. I MEAN, I'M SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU, SIR.

WELL, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALREADY DONE.

NO, WE JUST OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION.

YOU WENT TO COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO? I THINK MAYBE MY COLLEAGUE FELIX WANT TO SPEAK, AND MY NAME WAS MENTIONED.

SO. WE'RE GOING TO DENY THIS PROJECT.

BUT IN FIVE YEARS.

LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.

LESS THAN SEVEN YEARS.

BOTH. YOU'RE GOING TO GET REVENUE FROM IT.

SO MY NAME WAS MENTIONED TWICE AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT BECAUSE NOW I COULD COMMENT ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID IN 2030.

LIKE I SAID, EVEN ON TAXES, 1.7 MILLION AND IT INCREASES EVERY YEAR.

THAT'S FROM THE MULTIFAMILY.

THE COMMERCIAL 957 957,000 OF AVALON TAXES.

AND WHAT FRUSTRATES ME, I MIGHT BE GETTING A LITTLE.

ANGRY UP HERE. LET ME CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

I WOULDN'T SAY ANGRY, A LITTLE UPSET BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT THAT FIRE STATION, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

I CARE ABOUT OUR POLICE STATION.

PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

I CARE ABOUT OUR PUBLIC WORK.

I CARE ABOUT A PARK AND REC CENTER.

A CITY PARK AND REC CENTER.

A PARK DOWN THERE.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS MONEY FROM? THE REASON WHY I WANT THIS DEVELOP WE PASS TO.

WE TWO, WE PASSED TWO DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN TAX REVENUE.

I DON'T LIKE RAISING TAXES ON PALM BAY RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOME 20 YEARS.

I WANT TO GET IT FROM COMMERCIAL.

MULTIFAMILY IS COMMERCIAL IS TAXED LIKE COMMERCIAL.

IT'S TAXED LIKE COMMERCIAL.

IN 2030.

WE IN 2020.

2022. YOU KNOW.

SO. THE ECONOMY IN THIS COUNTRY IS CHANGING.

PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO FLORIDA, AND THAT MIGHT CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE NEXT HURRICANE.

THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS BACKED UP.

IT TAKES ALMOST A YEAR TO BUILD A HOUSE.

THE MORE WE DELAY COMMERCIAL PROJECT LIKE THAT, YOU SAW THAT GREEN SPACE AND WE WORRY ABOUT.

A LITTLE PORTION AND YOU SAW IT ON THE MAP, ALL THAT GREEN SPACE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HOLD UP THIS PROJECT.

THAT IN BY 2030.

1.7 MILLION IN TAX AND AVALON TAXES.

AND I DIDN'T EVEN MENTION WHAT WE GET IN 2025.

OKAY, ARE WE GOING TO GET COMMERCIAL AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MULTIFAMILY AVALON TAXES AT THE SAME TIME.

WHY ARE WE GOING TO WHY ARE WE GOING TO DENY THIS AND DELAY US FUNDING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY?

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DIAS ASKED ABOUT THE FIRE STATION WITH THE DEVELOPER.

BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

THESE GUYS MADE IT A WALKER.

WALKABLE WITH SIDEWALKS AND REDUCE THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

AND WE'VE GOT EMIRATES COMING.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THE COMMERCIAL MOVING.

WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WERE WILLING TO LEAVE THEIR APARTMENTS AFTER A LONG DAY OF WORK AND GO ENJOY A RESTAURANT AND SHOP IN THAT AREA.

I'VE GOT FAMILY THAT LIVES IN THAT AREA AND THEY BUGGED ME EVERY DAY WHEN THE COMMERCIALS COME IN.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD UP THE WHOLE PROJECT BECAUSE OF ONE LITTLE SPACE.

AND YOU SAW THE MAP.

I ASKED HIM TO PUT UP THE MAP, SHOW ME ALL THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.

I BROUGHT UP VIEIRA.

BECAUSE TO ME THIS LOOKED KIND OF SIMILAR.

THEY GOT. THEY GOT. APARTMENTS, BUILDINGS GOING UP ALL OVER.

VIEIRA NOW. THEY CAN PUT MORE COMMERCIAL AND SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO NO MORE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY PART. LET'S KEEP DOING COMMERCIAL.

AND THEY COMMERCIAL LOOKS PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE I GOT MORE PEOPLE GOING INTO THEM RESTAURANTS AND THEM SHOPS.

SO. THESE GUYS ARE PUTTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THIS PROJECT.

THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST THAT WORK.

I ASKED THE GENTLEMAN THAT THIS WORK IN ORLANDO, HE SAID, YES, IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ORLANDO.

SO WHY WOULD WE KILL IT? AND WAIT AND GAMBLE.

I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE AVALON TAXES NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

I WANT TO REDUCE THEM.

AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN IS LET'S GET THIS PROJECT MOVING.

AND THE MULTIFAMILY IS TAXED HIGHER.

AND WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME ON MY COMPUTER AND THE COMMERCIAL.

THE MULTIFAMILY BY 2050 IS $70 MILLION, AND THE COMMERCIAL PIECE IS 18 MILLION.

I GUARANTEE YOU IN 2050, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ON THIS COUNCIL.

BUT IF IF I'M STILL AROUND, I WANT I WANT THAT 70 MILLION, I'M GOING TO BE LIVING IN PALM BAY, BUT I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO WANT THAT 70 MILLION COMING INTO THE CITY COFFERS.

SO. IT'S THE.

WE WE COULD. WE CAN'T IF WE DELAY THIS ANYMORE, THAT PARKWAY.

BILL BATTEN SAID, WE SPEND MONEY, THE TAXPAYER.

I WANT TO GET THAT MONEY BACK.

AND THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT BACK IS THROUGH.

I HAVE A LOT OF TAXES AND I DON'T WANT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVES ON THE RUSSELL PALM BAY.

PAYING FOR IT. DOES EVERYBODY MOVING DOWN THERE MORE LIKE MORE LIKELY HE'S GOING TO BE FROM OUT OF STATE OF FLORIDA.

OR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN FLORIDA.

SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE COULD SWING AT A CURVEBALL.

WE COULD SWING A FASTBALL.

IF YOU HIT A FASTBALL, IT'S GOING TO GO OUT THE PARK.

SO I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS COUNT.

I'M GOING TO GIVE MY TIME, BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO RECONSIDER THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

WE WERE WALKING AWAY FROM BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPER SAY, YOU KNOW, I HAD, YOU KNOW.

ALL COMMERCIAL. IT MIGHT NOT WORK.

YOU NEED CUSTOMERS.

YOU NEED PEOPLE TO SHOW UP.

AND RIGHT NOW YOU LOOK AT HAND AND LAND AND HALF OF PALM BAY SHOP IN THERE.

IT WAS PEOPLE SHOWING UP.

THERE'S APARTMENTS ALL UP AND DOWN PALM BAY ROAD.

SO. DO THE RIGHT THING.

LET'S PASS THIS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELIX.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

PRETTY MUCH COVER IT ALL.

JUST WANT ONE COUNSELOR TO CONSIDER A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I KNOW THIS COUNCIL.

SINCE WE ALL GOT HERE BACK IN 2020, THE MAJORITY OF THEM OF US GOT GOT ELECTED.

THERE'S A GREAT APPETITE FOR COMMERCIAL.

AND WE ALL WE I BELIEVE WE ALL CAN AGREE ON THAT.

WE CERTAINLY COMMERCIAL IS VERY SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US.

BUT WHAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS, IS NOT EVERY PROJECT IS THE SAME WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

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AS MUCH AS WE WANT COMMERCIAL THIS RIGHT HERE.

I WAS ON THE FENCE AND.

ONCE I START SEEING THE NUMBERS, THE YOU KNOW, JAKE DID A GREAT JOB, THE DEVELOPER.

AND AND IT SURELY MAKES SENSE.

I THINK WE HAVE EVERY REASON TO SUPPORT THIS, AS BRIAN PUT THE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACT AND RANDY WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO SEE IT.

IS, I BELIEVE, ALL TRUE NUMBERS.

WHAT DO WE WANT TO ACHIEVE? WE WANT COMMERCIAL. HERE WE ARE.

WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WILL BRING US THE WHAT WE NEED.

THE TAXABLE, THE TAXABLE VALUE, THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE, THE AD VALOREM THAT WE WE SO NEED TO INCREASE OUR TAX BASE. THERE'S A REASON WHY.

YOU KNOW, OUR GREAT VOLUNTEER.

I SEE PHIL SITS HERE.

THEY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

I THINK 6 TO 1, YOU KNOW, A SUPERMAJORITY.

IT MAKES SENSE.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT MAKES SENSE.

YES. AS MUCH AS WE WANT A COMMERCIAL, THAT'S 38 ACRES.

LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION, IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT 38 ACRES IS NOT THE FRONTAGE ON BABCOCK.

IT'S IN THE REAR WHERE THEY ARE GIVING US.

ACRES AND ACRES OF COMMERCIAL ALL AROUND IT.

IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE.

THIS PROJECT IS UNIQUE.

THAT'S A UNIQUE PROJECT.

NOWHERE IN THE CITY WE HAVE A SIMILAR PROJECT.

IT'S NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME WHY WE CAN'T SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT.

AND THAT'S IT. OBVIOUSLY, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

I WOULD URGE.

A ONE MORE VOTE.

LET'S SUPPORT IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ARE YOU DONE, SIR? YES, SIR. SO I GOT A MOTION TO DENY BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I ALL OPPOSE.

NAY. NAY. OKAY, SO LET'S.

LET'S DO A ROLL CALL, TERRY.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

OH, I. SORRY. YEAH.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

CARRY ON, MA'AM. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

HEY, COUNCILMAN FELIX.

HEY, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

HI. MAYOR MEDINA.

HI. MOTION TO DENY PASSES THAT SHOWS NUMBER EIGHT.

LISTEN, I WANT TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS.

SO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, OR IT IS 2022, DASH 106, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

MANY AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS 73.

STAND BY, MA'AM.

MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE? WE'VE RESUMED OUR MEETING.

THANK YOU. CARRY ON, MADAM ATTORNEY.

SECTION ONE 83.01.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION DD ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

WHETHER I CAN USE IT OR NOT IS ANOTHER.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER.

I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF LACY LYONS.

ROSENKER IN ROCKLEDGE, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT.

WOODFIELD ACQUISITIONS PRESENT WITH ME REPRESENTING WOODFIELD ACQUISITION IS ROSS ABRAMSON.

ALSO HERE IS BRUCE MOIR WITH MBIE.

WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A MIXED USE PROJECT IN THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE AREA, AND IT IS GOING

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WE ARE SEEKING CHANGING THE TO THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE WITH THE.

BAYFRONT MIXED USE ZONING.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A MIXED USE PROJECT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AND YOU ALSO HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN.

THIS IS ON 6.92 ACRES.

THIS IS GOING TO HAVE FIVE LEVELS OF APARTMENT ON THE EAST SIDE AND SIX LEVELS OF APARTMENT WEST ALONG THE WATER.

THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIP IN THE PROPERTY WHICH CAN BE EXPLAINED BY MR. MOYA. IF YOU'LL LOOK UP HERE.

I'M NEVER GOOD WITH THIS. OOPS.

I ALWAYS DO IT WRONG.

IT'S NOT WORKING OUT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE PROJECT IS MIXED USE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE ACCESS OFF OF US.

ONE, IT'S NEXT TO THE MARINA.

IT HAS PARKING ON THE FRONT AND OF THE US ONE AND ALSO ON THE SOUTH.

IT HAS A NICE AMENITIES FEATURE ON THE CANAL THERE, THE TURKEY CREEK AND.

THIS PRODUCT HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT SINCE PNC BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE AND THE BUFFER.

SO THAT AREA IN THE FRONT THERE WITH THE TREES, THAT HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY ENHANCED.

YOU'LL SEE ALSO IN THE YELLOW ON THE SLIDE THERE, THAT IS WHERE THE COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE.

THAT'S ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

IT'S GOING TO BE 20% COMMERCIAL, APPROXIMATELY 7400 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, GOING TO FACE THE WATER.

SO HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE SOME NICE RESTAURANTS THERE AND SOME OUTSIDE PATIO AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THE AMENITIES AREA WILL HAVE A POOL AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A BOARDWALK WALKWAY AROUND THE WATER THERE TO MATCH UP WITH WHAT'S AT THE MARINA.

WHERE'S THE COMMERCIAL? IT'S THE YELLOW AREA ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

THE YELLOW AREA IT'S GOING TO BE FACING FACING THE MARINA TO THE NORTH AND FACING US ONE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT'S OK.

SO THIS AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE THIS IS A PLAN AND A REZONING.

AND I KNOW YOU LIKE TO DO THEM SEPARATELY, BUT THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME PRESENTATION.

THE PURPOSE OF THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE IS TO PROVIDE FOR ATTRACTIVE AND FUNCTIONAL USE OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL WITH A MINIMUM OF 20% COMMERCIAL BAYFRONT MIXED USE CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN 40 UNITS TO THE ACRE OR LESS THAN HALF OF THAT.

THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SHOWS HOW THE AMENITY FEATURE THE POOL AREA, WAS MOVED SUBSTANTIALLY TOWARDS THE BUILDING AND AWAY FROM THE CANAL.

THERE IS A GREATLY ENHANCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THE BUFFER AND HABITAT RESTORATION IS 30 FEET AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 20 FEET GOING TO THE EAST OF THAT.

THEN YOU HAVE A 95 FOOT AMENITY POOL TERRACE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BUILDING.

SO YOU HAVE A 200 SETBACK FROM THE CANAL.

ALSO, THAT CANAL IS 55 FEET.

RESIDENTS HAVE SAID THAT IT'S VERY NARROW, BUT IT IS 55 FEET.

THERE WAS A MEETING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AT THE THE MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY THERE.

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.

THIS WAS HELD ON AUGUST 22ND OF 2020, AND THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.

APPROXIMATELY 60 CITIZENS.

THERE'S BEEN A BRIEF REPORT SUBMITTED.

IT WASN'T A MANDATORY MEETING, BUT THERE WAS ONE HELD.

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HEIGHT, LANDSCAPED BUFFERS OR RETAINING WALLED GRADE DIFFERENTIAL REMOVING OF OAK TREES, IMPACT TO THE WATERWAY, IMPACT TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONCERN WITH THE SEA WALL, CONCERN WITH SETTLEMENT OF FENCE ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE AND WILDLIFE IMPACT.

ALSO WE HEARD QUITE A BIT OF THAT AT PLANNING AND ZONING ON ON SEPTEMBER 6TH.

AND AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'VE CHANGED THESE BUFFER SUBSTANTIALLY SO THERE WILL BE LESS OF A VISUAL IMPACT.

ALSO, AS MENTIONED, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF CONCERN REGARDING THE WILDLIFE AND.

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THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND WATERWAY HABITAT NOT ONLY PROVIDES A VISUAL SCREEN FOR THE ADJACENT CANAL FRONT HOMES, BUT ALSO PROVIDES A VALUABLE HABITAT TO NATIVE ANIMAL SPECIES THAT LIVE WITHIN THE TURKEY CREEK ECOSYSTEM, REMOVING THE HARMFUL EXOTICS, WHICH THERE'S QUITE A BIT.

OF HARMFUL EXOTICS.

RIGHT THERE IN THE NORTH CORNER.

THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

AND THOSE THOSE PEPPER TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND THEN MORE PLANTINGS WILL BE PUT IN.

GOING TO REPLACE WITH NATIVE HABITAT FRIENDLY SPECIES SUCH AS MANGROVES, SEA GRAPES AND MEADOWS, ENHANCING NESTING AREAS FOR COASTAL BIRDS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING PROTECTED NURSERY AREAS FOR FISH AND CRUSTACEANS, ESTABLISHING A VALUABLE FOOD SOURCE FOR A VARIETY OF LARGER MAMMAL ANIMALS.

IN ADDITION, THE RESTORED HABITAT IMPROVES THE WATER QUALITY BY REMOVING FERTILIZERS AND HELPING TO CONTROL ALGAE BLOOMS THAT CAN CAUSE FISH KILLS THE NEIGHBORING NATIVE HABITAT.

PLANT SPECIES WILL STABILIZE THE SHORELINE AND PREVENT EROSION.

THERE WILL BE NO ACTIVITY IN THE CANAL AT ALL.

THAT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THAT'S NOT THE INTENT AND THERE'S NO INTENT TO IMPACT THE WILDLIFE.

THIS IS A MIXED USE AREA.

YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PLANNED TO GO IN THIS AREA.

THIS WILL ENHANCE WHAT'S ALREADY PROPOSED AND WE'LL BRING THE COMMERCIAL AND A VARIETY OF HOUSING CHOICES TO THE AREA.

THIS IS A MIXED USE AREA.

AS I MENTIONED, YOU HAVE A BOAT SAILS AND MARINAS TO THE NORTH.

YOU HAVE PALM BAY ESTATES, MOBILE HOME CO-OP TO THE WEST AND NORTH.

YOU HAVE PALM BAY TOWN CENTER, SHOPPING, STRIP MALL TO THE SOUTH, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS MOSTLY VACANT.

YOU HAVE THE VFW TO THE EAST ACROSS US ONE YOU HAVE A LOUNGE OR BAR TO THE NORTH OF THE VFW.

YOU HAVE A GAS STATION TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

AND SO THIS IS A MIXED USE AND THIS FITS IN WITH THE CHARACTER AND IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.

THE PLAN REQUESTS US TO CHANGE COMMERCIAL TO BAYFRONT MIXED USE.

THE STAFF INDICATED IN THEIR STAFF REPORT THAT THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS COMPATIBLE AND MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.

WE BELIEVE IT MEETS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE GOALS REGARDING BAYFRONT MIXED USE AS WELL.

AND I WILL STOP THERE AND NOT GO INTO THE ZONING MATTER.

ALSO, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE, AGAIN THE ENGINEER TO SPEAK AND THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK TO ANSWER QUITE A BIT OF QUESTIONS. THAT AND IF YOU'VE READ THE MINUTES, YOU MEAN ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? MAYOR. YES.

THANK YOU. HOW TALL IS THE BUILDING GOING TO BE? RIGHT. THAT'S 76.

WE HAVE NOT DONE SITE PLAN.

IT'S SIX FOOT AT AT AT THE WEST SIDE AND FIVE FEET ON THE EAST SIDE.

I'M SURE. I'M SURE.

STORIES, SORRY, NOT THE STORIES IS OUR.

MA'AM. MA'AM, PLEASE.

I'LL LET YOU. I'LL LET YOU SPEAK.

I'M SORRY. OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING HEIGHT THAT MAY BE PERMITTED, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS.

PUBLIC SPACE, UNDERSTORY PARKING, PUBLIC ACCESS, MIXTURE OF USES AS RESTAURANT.

I'M SORRY, BRUCE. GO AHEAD. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. FILIBERTO.

AND THANK YOU, MR. MARIN. COUNSEL. MY NAME IS BRUCE MOYER.

FOR THE RECORD, WITH ME OF ENGINEERING, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT THE ARCHITECT, I STILL UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUILDING WORKS AND THE HEIGHT.

AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN IT, BUT MR. ROSENKER DID MENTION ABOUT THIS, THIS CHANGE IN ELEVATION.

SO THERE'S A THERE'S A BLUFF NOW.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE THE TWO STOREY SCHOOL SITS ON THE TOP OF THAT BLUFF AND THEN IT DROPS DOWN PROBABLY A GOOD 10 TO 15 FEET FROM THAT BUILDING.

IT'S DOWN TO THE DOWN TO THE RIVER'S WATER.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT THEY DID OUT OF BALLARD PARK.

IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THOSE HOUSES ON THE RIVER, THEY BUILT TWO STORIES ON THE FRONT, BUT IT'S THREE STORIES ON THE BACK.

BUT THE THIRD STORY FLOOR IS ON THE BOTTOM, BECAUSE INSTEAD OF BRINGING ALL THAT FILL, THEY JUST USE THE SPACE.

SO THE BUILDING HEIGHT WON'T CHANGE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GOING DOWN ANOTHER FLOOR.

SO TYPICALLY THE FLOOR LEVELS ARE TEN FEET PLUS OR MINUS WITH YOUR WITH YOUR FLOORS IN BETWEEN.

SO I THINK OUR BUILDING HEIGHT, MAX, IS GOING TO BE 70 FEET BASED ON WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS FOR QEMU, ALONG WITH THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE INCLUDED. IF WE PROVIDE THOSE THAT WE COULD GET TO THAT 70 FOOT HEIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON GOING MORE THAN 70 FEET.

THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM.

AND FROM THE FROM THE ROAD, FROM THE ACTUAL FRONTAGE WILL ONLY BE PROBABLY WILL BE LESS THAN 60 FEET BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GOING FIVE STOREYS AT THE ROAD LEVEL. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT FROM THE BACK.

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I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE BLUE CODE AND HOW YOU CAN GET THAT ADDITIONAL TEN FEET IF NEEDED.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST ONE OF THEM.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU.

YEP. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, BRUCE. DETAILED.

THANK YOU. AND THE COMMERCIAL WILL BE BUILT SIMULTANEOUSLY.

ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT'S A GREAT THING ABOUT THE QEMU AND AND THE WAY THIS IS BEING BUILT VERTICALLY INSTEAD OF HORIZONTALLY IS THAT THE THE COMMERCIAL WILL BE BUILT AS PART OF THE BUILDING. SO IT'LL BE THERE AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE AND IT'LL BE AT THE 20% MINIMUM THAT YOU GUYS REQUIRE.

AND RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OWN COMMERCIAL, IT'S REALLY INSTITUTIONAL AND IT'S NOT EVEN ON YOUR TAX ROLL.

THEY HAVE A TAX EXEMPT STATUS.

SO THIS WILL BRING IT ON THE TAX ROLL.

SIR. THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? HE RAISED HIS HAND FIRST AND THEN YOU, MA'AM.

GORDON NELSON, 283 HAMLET IN MELBOURNE.

AND I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED AT THIS SITE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

AND SO I'M HERE.

I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE REZONING.

HOWEVER, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT AT HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OFF OF THIS SITE BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO GO NORTH, YOU HAVE TO CROSS TWO LINES OF HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING 50, 55 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE.

AND YOU'VE GOT A COMPLEX SET OF SITUATION WHERE RIDGE ROAD IS COMING IN AT AN ANGLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SITE.

RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IS A RESTAURANT WITH ITS CARS COMING OUT.

BOTH OF THEM HARDLY EVER SIGNAL.

SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AS YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ACROSS SOMEHOW AND GOING NORTH.

TRAFFIC IS SO FAST THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH, IF YOU SEE A CAR COMING AROUND THAT CURVE, YOU HAVE BETTER BE ACROSS THAT ROAD BECAUSE IF YOU BLINK YOUR EYES THAT THOSE CARS ARE RIGHT UP ON YOU.

AND SO FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT 55 MILES AN HOUR COMING AT YOU, LOOKS LIKE, THEY REALLY DON'T.

SO THAT SIMPLE SOLUTION IS, IN FACT, A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

AND I GUESS WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY IS THAT WITHOUT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT, THAT IS A PLACE FOR A LOT OF ACCIDENTS TO BE COMING TO US. THEY SAY THE TRAFFIC IS FAST.

IN FACT, AS I COME INTO THE SITE AND I COME FROM THE NORTH AND AT TIMES WHEN I PULL IN AND I THINK THAT THAT ONE ENTRANCE ACTUALLY GOES AWAY. SO THIS LOOKS LIKE IT ONLY HAS A ONE ENTRANCE, ONE EXIT.

WHEN I COME IN TO THE NORTH ENTRANCE AND MY BLINKERS ARE ON MAKING THE TURN, A LOT OF TIMES THEY HONK AT ME.

SO IT'S JUST THE REALITY OF THIS US ONE.

AH, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE TRAFFIC OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS ON US ONE? IT'S GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE.

THAT IS TRAFFIC NORTH OF 192 IS 44,000 CARS A DAY.

ON THIS SIDE IS 22,000 CARS A DAY.

SO WE HAVE NOT YET BEGUN TO SEE WHAT TRAFFIC FOR THIS SITE IS.

SO I GUESS WHAT MY PLEA IS THAT SO FAR THAT CERTAINLY THE PLANNING AND ZONING THERE WASN'T YET A TRAFFIC STUDY. THANK YOU, SIR.

AND SO I DO URGE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

MAY I APPROACH? I HAD COME TO THE SEPTEMBER 6TH MEETING AND PUT EIGHT BY TEN AND GAVE COLORED PICTURES WHICH ARE IN YOUR SYSTEM, ACCORDING TO THE CLERK.

AND THESE ARE ADDITIONAL ONES THAT I NEED TO ADD.

I'LL BRING. BUT CAN YOU STAY ON MY RIGHT, PLEASE? CAN YOU PUT THAT PICTURE BACK UP, SIR, FOR US? THIS ONE. OH, CAN YOU PUT THIS UP? PERFECT. DO YOU HAVE THE PICTURES IN FRONT OF YOU THAT I GAVE YOU INITIALLY?

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I NEED TO SEE THIS TOO.

OK. SO RIGHT NOW I ONLY HAVE 3 MINUTES.

MAKE THIS QUICK. THIS IS OUR HOME.

THIS IS PALM BAY STATES.

THIS IS WHAT WE BOUGHT INTO THIS LITTLE 55 AND OLDER.

MA'AM, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE GET ON THE MIC BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO BE ON THE RECORD.

OKAY. WE START THE CLOCK THEN, PLEASE, OK.

OKAY. JUST. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

OKAY. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GO EIGHT, 8 SECONDS INTO HER.

OKAY, LET'S START OVER.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT WE BOUGHT INTO.

THIS IS WHAT WE PUT OUR ENTIRE RETIREMENT SYSTEM IN.

AND THIS. BUT, MA'AM, YOU GOT.

YOU GOT TO STAY. IF YOU SPEAK.

WELL, THAT'S MY HOME.

OK HERE. THAT'S OUR HOME.

IN THAT ON THE MIC.

MAN ON THE BLOCK. THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE AWAY.

THEY'RE SNOWBIRDS, AND THEY'RE ALL AFFECTED RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS THE BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF FLIGHT THAT WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO WATCH.

QUICK. TURN IT.

OK RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS MY SAVING GRACE.

IT'S A MANGROVE.

YOU CAN'T CUT MANGROVES.

THIS IS STANDING ON FIT'S PROPERTY.

THIS IS FIT.

NEXT. THERE ARE OVER 18 100 YEAR OLD OAK TREES ON THAT PROPERTY THAT THIS DEVELOPER IS GOING TO LEVEL OAK.

THIS IS OUR HOME THAT WE INVESTED $300,000 IN AND AT 55 AND OLDER OAK PARK THAT NOBODY STAYS UP PAST 9:00 AT NIGHT.

I CAN SHOW YOU ON MY PHONE.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PICTURES IS STANDING ON MY PORCH IN MY YARD, THAT LITTLE ORANGE COLORED ROOF.

EVERY ONE OF THESE ANIMALS HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS.

THIS ONE, WHICH YOU HAVE A NEW PICTURE I'M GIVING TODAY, WAS CUT OUT.

THERE'S SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS PICTURE I NEED YOU TO SEE.

SO I MADE IT TODAY.

TWO YEARS AGO, ON JUNE 3RD, 2022, I CAME OUTSIDE BECAUSE I HEARD A HORRIBLE NOISE.

AND THAT FIGHT, SOME KID WAS OUT THERE LEVELING ALL OF THIS BEAUTIFUL NATURE HERE.

AND I MY RIGHT HAND TO GOD.

THAT NIGHT I WATCHED WHO WAS COMING HOME FIRST AND THIS LITTLE BABY ALLIGATOR, YOU CAN SEE HIM WITH THE FISH IN HIS MOUTH.

AND SNOWY CAME BACK AND WE HE AND I FOR 4 HOURS WATCHED THOSE ANIMALS CIRCLE FOR HOURS LOOKING FOR THEIR HOME, BECAUSE WHEN THEY LEFT THAT MORNING AND FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THAT HOME'S BEEN THERE AND THEN THEY DECIDE TO TAKE IT AWAY.

SO NOW THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

SORRY, HONEY. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVINCE ME THAT THIS SIX STORY, 70 FOOT NIGHTMARE BELONGS ON A SINGLE WIDE 55 AND OLDER MOBILE PARK WITH FROM THE FIFTIES.

IT WAS A FISH CAMP.

WE'RE NOT LIVING LIKE EXCLUSIVE.

OUR CANAL IS NOT THAT WIDE, KIMBERLY.

IT'S VERY NARROW.

VERY NARROW. YOU CAN SEE IT.

OK. AND THIS I TOOK LAST NIGHT.

THIS IS SATELLITE IMAGES.

SEE THE FENCE LINES? THIS IS THIS IS HOW NARROW OUR CANAL IS.

THIS IS NOT FAR AWAY FROM US.

IT'S CLOSER THAN YOU AND ME WHERE THAT POOL IS.

BUT PLEASE LOOK AT THE LAST PAGE.

OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS ONE OF THE ONLY LANDOWNERS IN OUR PARK.

THIS IS ATTACHED FROM JUNE OF 1998.

I HIGHLIGHTED THE VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR ALL OF US TO SEE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

I SAW THREE MORE SECONDS.

THE LAND ACCESS FROM THE SUBJECT ON THE CANAL SIDE IS UNBELIEVABLE AS IT IS A PRESERVE.

AND I BEG YOU. SO TO HONOR THOSE ANIMALS, IT'S NOT ABOUT US.

IT'S ABOUT THE ANIMALS.

ALSO, MA'AM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU NOW GO POINT TO WHERE YOUR HOME IS BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO DO THAT BEFORE? THIS IS BIG STORIES.

THE LANDOWNER HAD THIS WITH HER PAPERWORK THAT FROM THAT FENCE.

YOU CAN'T SPEAK FROM THERE.

MA'AM, I JUST WANTED YOU TO THE POINT WHERE I LIVE, OKAY? THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M AN OLD FARMER.

THANK YOU. OVER 50 YEARS.

SIX STORIES. ALL RIGHT, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. BATTEN OR MASTER CHIEF? BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE AN EMPATHETIC UNDERSTANDING FOR THE NATURE LOVERS, WHICH I DO WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

BUT I ALSO HAVE AN EMPATHETIC UNDERSTANDING FOR THE TAX REVENUE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING IN FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND MR. MOYA JUST BROUGHT UP IN THE STATEMENT THAT FIT WAS PAYING $0.

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THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE TAX REVENUE.

AND REMEMBER, THIS IS RENTAL.

SO THAT DOES DOUBLE.

IT'S NOT JUST AD VALOREM FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

IT'S NOW COMMERCIAL, JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT YOU SAID, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION.

THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO.

IT'S GOING TO GENERATE MORE BECAUSE IT'S RENTAL INSTEAD OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

SO TAX REVENUE, IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? EXCUSE ME.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK OR AGAINST? HI, ELIZABETH LEE.

CAN I GIVE HER MY 3 MINUTES? YOU USED YOUR 3 MINUTES.

OKAY. I LIVE THERE.

SHE SHOWED YOU MY HOME? YES, MA'AM. SO I BOUGHT THERE BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE AND I WATCHED THE PORPOISES COME IN THE SEA.

COWS AND THE SEA COWS ACTUALLY EAT A NET BANK THERE.

IF THEY TAKE THAT AWAY, THAT'S GONE.

THERE'S NO GRASS NOW IN INDIAN RIVER FOR THEM NOW.

SO THAT'S SOMETIMES THERE'LL BE TEN SEA COWS IN THERE DURING THE WINTERTIME.

ANYWAYS, WHEN I STAND ON MY PORCH, I COULD TAKE A ROCK AND THROW IT INTO THAT POOL.

THERE'S GOING TO BE 50 PEOPLE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO MY LIVING ROOM.

I WON'T BE ABLE TO GO OUT ON MY PORCH ANYMORE.

IT'S OVER WITH IF YOU ALLOW THIS.

AND WHERE DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER BUILDING THAT IS FIVE STORIES TALL AROUND THERE WHERE I MEAN, WHY DOES THAT HAVE TO GO THERE? IT DOESN'T BELONG THERE.

IT DOESN'T BELONG.

I DON'T WANT IT.

SO. KNOW, MAN.

I'M SORRY. ANYWAYS, I DON'T WANT IT.

IT'S GOING TO RUIN MY LIFE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'LL DO TO MY PROPERTY VALUE, BUT.

AS YOU CAN SEE.

LOOK, I MEAN, I'M RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO PUT UP WITH THE NOISE FOR TWO YEARS WHILE THEY'RE BUILDING IT.

SO MY LITTLE PIECE OF HEAVEN IS OVER WITH.

BUT THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY JUST CARE ABOUT THE MONEY.

IF. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD, PLEASE.

RUSTY MILLER 14 1455 SOUTH WICKHAM I COME HERE IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACH.

I THINK I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS AREA SINCE 2007 AND I KNOW THAT MANY COUNCILS HAVE BEEN WORKING TO GET TURKEY CREEK AND GROW AND COMMERCIAL THROUGH THERE.

I REPRESENT TWO COMMERCIAL BOARDS HERE IN TOWN THAT I'M A CHAIR OF.

EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I JUST CAME FROM THE EDC YESTERDAY LISTENING TO LYNDA WEATHERMAN AND THEY ARE DOING A BRANDING INITIATIVE AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS RETAINING PEOPLE HERE. WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE TO AUSTIN, OTHER PLACES FOR THE WORKFORCE.

HAVING THIS PROJECT WITH THE MIXED USE AND THE COMMERCIAL, I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO GET THIS OUT AND TRY TO BRING SOME OF THIS IN HERE. I THINK IT'S WITH L3, HARRIS AND EMERY.

I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THEM. IT MAY GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE THESE PEOPLE, RETAIN THEM.

DR. MULLINS TALKS ABOUT THE CT PROGRAMS THAT HE'S GETTING OUT THIS ALLOW THOSE KIDS TO GET IN THOSE HIGH JOBS AND HAVE PLACES TO GO, AND THEY WANT THAT WALKABILITY.

THEY'RE YOUNGER ENGINEERS.

SO FROM THAT ASPECT, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT.

THIS AREA HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FOR A LONG TIME.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM OUR MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY AND OTHER PEOPLE THERE.

AND I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE DIRECTLY THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THIS THROUGH HERE.

SO I THINK IT WILL HELP WITH OUR JOB CREATION.

WE'VE ALREADY LOST I THINK YOU WERE IN MEETINGS, 300 JOBS DID LEAVE THE AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THIS WALKABILITY AND SOME OF THIS MIXED USE.

SO FROM OUR END OF IT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR MANUFACTURING JOBS AND RETENTION IN THE AREA.

SO WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO THANK YOU, GUYS.

AND PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR? COME ON. STEP FORWARD, SIR.

I'M ROGER GRIMES, A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY ESTATES.

THAT ORANGE COLORED HOUSE THERE.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT BUILDING THERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE 76 FEET TALL.

SO WHAT KIND OF LANDSCAPE ARE THEY GOING TO SHOW US THAT'S GOING TO COVER THAT? WE'RE STILL GOING TO SEE THAT BUILDING NO MATTER WHAT.

AND. MY WIFE WANTED TO MENTION THAT IT'S A CANAL FRONT, NOT A BAY FRONT.

AND AS LIBBY HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE AREA THAT'S THAT SIZE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EYESORE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY ESTATES. AND AS SHE ALSO SAID, WHERE THEY'VE GOT THAT EXTRA.

LANDSCAPING THERE.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHERE THE MANATEES COME IN AS FEED ANYMORE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE.

TREES. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THE WATER WHERE THE MANATEES CAN COME UP AND FEED.

THEY NOT ONLY FEED THERE, THEY BIRTH THEIR YOUNG.

THEY'RE. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO THE NATURE.

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THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO OWN.

SO I'D URGE YOU TO TAKE A GOOD CLOSE LOOK AT THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ME.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MADAM LUTSENKO, YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE.

SO I HAD A QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO DOWN THAT PATH.

ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC.

SO WHEN I WHEN I BLOW THIS UP AND.

HE SPOKE ABOUT WALKABILITY.

HOW HOW DOES BECAUSE THAT RESTAURANT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS IS VERY PLEASING.

THEY HAVE LIKE BANDS AND THEY HAVE GREAT FOOD THERE.

SO HOW HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT? BECAUSE IF IF THIS PROJECT IS SUCCESSFUL, IF THIS PASSES, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THERE AND THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT THAT THE CONSTITUENT MENTIONED? I KNOW A TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD WOULD INDICATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT ISN'T THERE A TRAFFIC LIGHT? WHAT IS THAT, LIKE A MILE SOUTH OF THERE? A MILE NORTH OR HALF A MILE? WE DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER YET ON SITE.

I DIDN'T MENTION THE WALKABILITY THAT THAT WAS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN.

I DO KNOW BECAUSE MR. TAYLOR IS HERE. JAMES TAYLOR, FOR ANOTHER MATTER.

AND HE'S LIKELY TO BE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

HE DID THE PROJECT TO THE SOUTH OF THIS, AND IT IS 45 MILES AN HOUR THERE.

THIS ROAD IS ONLY AT 50% CAPACITY.

AND WHATEVER THE TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRES WILL HAPPEN.

I KNOW YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO TO THOSE BLINKING LIGHTS ALL OVER THE BEACH, BUT THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.

COMMENT TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES, LOWERING THE SPEED.

I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WILL COME OUT IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE.

I DO WANT TO MENTION WE'RE NOT GOING ABOVE 70 FEET.

THAT PICTURE, IT'S.

THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S ELEVATION OF 76 FEET ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S NOT 76 FOOT OF BUILDING.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING ABOVE 70 FEET FOR THE BUILDING AS MEASURED BY YOUR CODE.

SO I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, MAYOR.

THAT WOULD ALL COME OUT IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND I THINK THE WALKABILITY IS ALSO TO BE ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE IS COMMERCIAL THERE.

THERE IS. YES, THERE IS.

OTHER. CORRECT.

SO TRULY, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS I MEAN, THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE SPEED THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL COME.

BUT SAVING AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE ALONG THE WATERFRONT, NOT INTENDING TO HAVE ACTIVITY IN THE WATERFRONT.

THE CANAL BEFORE I EVEN SAW THIS PICTURE DONE BY BY THE CLIENT.

I DID THE MEASURING TOOL IN THE COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE, AND IT WAS 55 FEET.

I MEAN, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT ACCURATE PER SE, BUT IT DID MATCH UP WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN.

PEOPLE THINK THAT THEIR PROPERTY SOMETIMES EXTENDS BIGGER THAN IT DOES, BUT THAT CANAL IS 55 FEET.

THERE'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER FROM THE EDGE OF THE WATER TO THE THE POOL AMENITY AREA.

SO THE LADY THAT SAID SHE COULD THROW A STONE IN IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE 100 FEET.

THAT'S THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.

AND I'M NOT I'M SAYING I DON'T THINK I COULD DO IT.

SO IT IS FAR BACK.

WE HAVE MOVED IT BACK.

WE HAVE INCLUDED THE LANDSCAPING AND WE BELIEVE THIS FITS EXACTLY IN THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE AREA AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE CITY.

WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE TO BAYFRONT MIXED USE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT COUNCIL? QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL, DEPUTY MAYOR.

NOT REALLY A MORE, I GUESS, SORT OF A QUESTION OR A STATEMENT, BUT BECAUSE I DO.

I LIKE THE PROJECT.

I LIKE WHAT I SEE.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE COMING FROM IN REGARDS TO WE'RE TRYING TO REPAIR TURKEY CREEK AND WE'RE TRYING TO REPAIR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND WE'RE DEALING WITH A SHORTAGE OF MANATEES.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT POINT.

AND I WAS JUST TALKING TO CITY MANAGER ABOUT IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, USUALLY GOING FORWARD WITH ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, IT DEALS WITH GO GO FOR TORTOISES AND SCRUB JAYS, NOT REALLY THE MANATEES.

SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW, I PROBABLY CAN'T DO IT IN IN A MOTION OR ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANT TO STRONGLY EMPHASIZE I MIGHT SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL OR MYSELF IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD LIKE.

UM. I WANT THE DEVELOPER.

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WELL, I DID AND I FAILED TO MENTION THIS.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE OF A PERSONAL ISSUE.

BUT THIS IS 1986 DRAINAGE.

THIS IS OLD, OLD DRAINAGE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF RUNOFF COMING FROM THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW INTO TURKEY CREEK.

AND THAT WILL STOP THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO STOP BY YOUR CODE.

SO IT SHOULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE RUNOFF.

SO IT'S A BENEFIT ALSO IN THAT RESPECT.

AND IT'S REALLY THERE IS NO INTENT.

THEY'VE MOVED THINGS BACK. THEY THEY DON'T WANT TO IMPACT THE WILDLIFE.

AND IF THE WILDLIFE. I DON'T I DON'T DON'T KNOW.

WE MAYBE THEY MAY HAVE TO PUT A FENCE THERE TO STOP IT FROM COMING ALL THE WAY INTO THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET.

AND I'M JUST SPEAKING, GENERAL, BECAUSE WE CAN'T AT THIS POINT.

BUT YEAH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS THINKING AS WELL, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD WITH THE FENCE BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING RESIDENTS MIGHT TRY TO VENTURE OFF IN TO THAT AREA. WELL, AND IT MIGHT JUST BE A THREE FOOT FENCE JUST TO STOP THE ALLIGATORS FROM GETTING IN.

I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVEN'T GONE THAT FAR.

AGAIN, WITH THE ENHANCED VEGETATION RESTORATION, WITH THE ENHANCED STORMWATER, THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT AND IT SHOULD ACTUALLY HELP THAT AREA OF TURKEY CREEK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS? THE STAFF. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVAL IN ITS 2022 DASH 106.

ONLY ONE READING REQUIRED A SECOND MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

DEPUTY MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF, MAYOR.

I SEE THIS AS A GOOD PROJECT.

I STARTED GOING ALONG THAT WAY.

I WILL ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS TO KEEP US ABREAST BECAUSE AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR THIS CLOSELY, MA'AM.

I UNDERSTAND.

ALL BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROTECTING, LIKE I SAID, OUR ENVIRONMENT.

I'M I WAS DOING THE MATH.

AND IN REGARDS TO VISIBILITY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RIGHT TRIANGLES, A SQUARED PLUS B SQUARED EQUALS C SQUARED.

AND THE NUMBER I CAME UP WITH IS 214 FEET IN REGARDS TO SOMEBODY BEING ABLE TO SEE, BEING ABLE TO SEE.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE.

BUT MY STANDPOINT IS MOSTLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PART THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO IF AND WE'VE HAD IT BEFORE WITH APPLICANTS COME BEFORE US AND WE APPROVE SOMETHING, BUT IF YOU DO SEE SOMETHING WRONG GOING ON, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE.

BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING WRONG GOING ON, DEFINITELY GET THE STAFF FOR US.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. MAYOR THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES.

SO I DO SEE GOOD INTENT BY THE DEVELOPER ON DRAWING BACK AND KEEPING A BIGGER ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER THERE.

I'VE ALSO ADVISED STAFF AND I KNOW OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE AS WELL TO BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT, ESPECIALLY WITH NATALIE SHAVER, WHO IS ONE OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERTS WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT.

SO JUST WANT TO LET YOU LET THE DEVELOPER KNOW THAT THAT STAFF IS GOING TO BE WATCHING THIS PROJECT VERY CLOSELY.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

THIS IS THE COMMON MAN. I DON'T WANT YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

YOUR PASSION. YOUR LOVE FOR THE WILDLIFE.

YOU TOOK THE TIME TO DO ALL OF THIS.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

AND YOU EDUCATED ME.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT.

AND I KNOW YOU FEEL EMOTIONAL RIGHT NOW, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND.

BUT. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE WILDLIFE AND YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.

AND AND I HAVE WILDLIFE IN MY BACK YARD.

EVERY MORNING, SANDHILL CRANES COME TO MY SLIDING GLASS WINDOW AT 12:00 EVERY DAY AND PECK ON MY GLASS.

AND I LOVE THAT.

I LOVE THAT THEY SHOW UP.

ONE DAY I MIGHT LET THEM IN, BUT.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE I ENVIRONMENT AND I SPEAK ON THIS ALL THE TIME.

WHEN I RAN FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, WHEN I RAN FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER, I ALWAYS I SPOKE ON OUR ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND. WHAT? MAKE ME UPSET.

AT THE COUNTY.

IN NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, I BELIEVE.

390,000. RAW SEWAGE.

SPILL, WASH OR SEWAGE INTO THE BEACH.

390,000 GALLONS OVERALL SEWAGE.

AND IT DIDN'T STOP UNTIL OCTOBER 2ND.

IT'S BECAUSE THE HURRICANE MIGHT HAVE CAUSED THE INFRASTRUCTURE THEY.

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AND THIS COUNCIL.

WENT TO BAT.

I GOT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE NO ONE IS SAYING IT.

WE WENT TO BAT THIS YEAR.

WE WERE ALL OF US.

THE PAST TWO YEARS.

BUT ALL OF US WENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE TO LOBBY FOR BAFFLE BOXES.

BECAUSE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE INDIAN LAGOON.

AND WE GOT IT. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, AND I STILL DON'T THINK WE DO ENOUGH.

FROM THIS COUNCIL TO BECAUSE THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE AND WE REALIZE THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE TIME THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE CONCERNED AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROJECT.

IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT THEY WANT TO GET APPROVED.

AND MR. BILL BATTEN BROUGHT UP A TAX SO WE COULD GET TAX BECAUSE IF FIT DON'T PAY NO TAX ON THIS PROPERTY.

WELL, GIVEN THE LAST ITEM WE THREW AWAY.

BUT $88,000 IN TAXES BY 2050.

88 MILLION.

EXCUSE ME. TAXES.

WE JUST VOTED 3 TO 2 AND LET THAT GO DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I VOTED FOR IT AGAINST IT.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT ABOUT THE TAX BASE.

AND BE BOUGHT THE TAX.

WE LET 88 MILLION WALK OUT THE DOOR.

IS IT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT? SO. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE VOTE IS CALLED, I'VE DONE THAT.

THANK YOU. FROM FELIX.

GOOD. SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

I GUESS JUST TO TO REMIND COUNCIL WE SOLD THE PROPERTY.

JUST WHAT IS IT NORTH OF THERE? AND AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A MARINA OR AN AMPHITHEATER THERE AND COMMERCIAL.

THAT IS THE HOPE. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT.

THE DIRECTION OF WHAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR TO DOING THAT, THAT WHOLE AREA.

I THINK IT FITS WITH WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING.

SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS WELL.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.

HI. I.

ANY OPPOSE HAS HIS UNANIMOUSLY.

HAVE ITEM NUMBER TEN.

ORDINANCE 2022.

THAT'S 107.

AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM EIGHT C HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO B AMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SEVEN ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF MALABAR ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR CHANGES OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, MR. ROSENKER.

YOU MAY. AND WE'RE HERE.

I'M COMMERZBANK ON BEHALF OF THE CONTRACT PURCHASER WOULD FIELD ACQUISITIONS WITH ME AS ROSS ABRAHAM'S SON AND BRUCE MOIR THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

THIS IS TO CHANGE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AND.

6.92 ACRES OF LAND CURRENTLY OWNED BY FLORIDA TECH TO BAYFRONT MIXED USE, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE WHICH YOU JUST APPROVED.

THIS WILL ALLOW US TO PUT THIS MIXED USE PROJECT HERE WITH THE 7400.

FOUR FEET OR 20% OF COMMERCIAL AND THE BOTTOM FLOOR, WHICH WILL BE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME AS THE APARTMENTS ABOVE IT, THE APARTMENTS WILL BE SIX FLOORS ON THE WEST SIDE AND FIVE FLOORS ON THE EAST SIDE, A MAXIMUM OF 70 FEET.

THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL CURRENTLY HAS SETBACKS OF 30 FOOT ON THE REAR SIDE SETBACK OF 20 FOOT.

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THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ALSO ALLOWS HOTEL, MOTEL, A CAR ARCADE, AMUSEMENT CENTERS AND FUEL SALES.

THIS WILL BE A TRUE MIXED USE PRODUCT WITH GOOD VIEWS OF THE MARINA AND THE WATERWAY WITH THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND HABITAT RESTORATION ON THE WEST SIDE.

THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE MIXED USE AREA THAT I HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WITH WHAT ALL IS AROUND THERE, WITH THE MARINA, WITH THE SHOPPING MALL, WITH THE VFW, THE LOUNGE, THE GAS STATION.

THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ZONING IS COMPATIBLE AND IT ADVANCES YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS FOR MIXED USE IN THIS AREA.

THIS IS A VERY GOOD FIT FOR THE AREA.

IT'S A REDEVELOPMENT.

IT WILL IMPROVE. THE STORMWATER IS A VERY LARGE INVESTMENT IN THE CITY, WILL INCREASE THE TAX BASE PROVIDES NEW HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE CANAL AND AS WE BELIEVE IT WILL ACTUALLY STOP THE RUNOFF INTO THE CANAL.

AND WITH THAT WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WE REQUEST APPROVAL FROM HOW WE COMMERCIAL TO BAYFRONT.

MIXED USE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SPEAK OF CARDS, MS..

ALLEN GRIMES. SO.

I HAVE TO CONTROL MYSELF BECAUSE I'M VERY UPSET RIGHT NOW.

BUT REMEMBER, YOU GUYS APPROVED THE SAME CORPORATE RAPIST TO PUT THREE, FIVE STORY, 300 UNITS A BLOCK FROM OUR LITTLE MOBILE HOME PARK ON THE CORNER OF FORT MALABAR AND US.

WOMAN IT'S ALREADY BEEN CLEARED.

THAT'S RENTAL UNITS.

THIS THING IS RENTALS.

THIS IS NOT CONDOS.

THEY'RE TELLING ME THIS IS $3,600 A MONTH.

LUXURY RENTALS.

IF YOU COULD AFFORD $3,600 A MONTH, WOULD YOU WANT TO BE LOOKING AT OLD, WRINKLED AND FAT NAKED, 55 AND OLDER PEOPLE WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE A NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY PAST 10:00 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STAY UP.

WE ALREADY HEAR THE ISLAND MUSIC FROM THAT OTHER PLACE ACROSS THE STREET.

I HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THE YOUNG ONES.

I CAN DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT HOW DO YOU MAKE TAXES OFF OF A RENTAL? CAN YOU TELL ME HOW HOW DO YOU GET ALL THIS REVENUE FROM CORPORATE RENTALS? THEY DON'T BUILD CONDOS.

THEY SAID THE GUY THAT BUILT THE PARAMOUNT SOLD THOSE CONDOS OUT LIKE THIS.

IF YOU REALLY GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, SELL THEM.

LET SOMEBODY TAKE PRIDE.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T OWN IT, YOU DON'T TAKE THE SAME PRIDE IN IT.

LET'S BE REAL. IF YOU HAVE 30 $600 A MONTH, DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT 50 AND 60 YEAR OLD MOBILES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE FIFTIES AS A FISH CAMP? WE HAVE TWO BLOCKS TO OUR WHOLE PARK.

I MET MS..

SHERMAN THERE ON THE SEVENTH BECAUSE I SAW AN OIL SPILL THAT THE RAILROAD DID.

BECAUSE THEY EXPANDED THAT RAILROAD.

THAT'S YOUR TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY, THE BAY.

THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF EMPTY LAND THERE.

THIS IS A LITTLE CANAL.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.

LOOK. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 76 FEET IN HERE RIGHT NOW.

IF IT IS ONLY 25 FEET AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I GOT HIT BY A DOUBLE TORNADO THAT CAME OVER THAT PEAK ON SEPTEMBER TEN, 2017, THREE MONTHS AFTER I INVESTED EVERY PENNY OF OUR MONEY TO PUT A CUSTOM HOME AND A MOBILE.

AND THAT. HOW DO YOU GET RENTAL MONEY? DOES A RENT GO TO YOU? HOW DO YOU MAKE TAXES OFF APARTMENT RENTALS? CAN YOU TELL ME? I'M JUST CONFUSED.

WE'LL EXPLAIN IT, MAN, BECAUSE THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT.

BUT REMEMBER, YOU ALREADY CLEARED THE SAME BUILDER AND THAT MAN RIGHT THERE, AND I HAVE IT ON TAPE, AND I LET SUZANNE SHERMAN HEAR IT.

HE GOT UP AT A PARK AND STOOD THERE AND STARTED THE MEETING WITH.

LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, I HAVE THE TAPE WITH ME.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO PLAY IT FOR YOU.

THAT MAN RIGHT THERE, THAT LITTLE ENGINEER SAID, LIKE IT OR NOT, PEOPLE, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

I HAVE IT ON TAPE AND I CAN PROVE IT.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE PICTURES, THOSE ANIMALS ARE TAKEN ON MY PHONE, DATES AND TIMES.

I CAN PROVE TO YOU THAT THEY'RE THERE EVERY DAY.

THE DOLPHINS, THE MANATEES.

THIS IS CORPORATE GREED.

HOW DO YOU MAKE MONEY OFF OF APARTMENTS? THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

IS THIS RIGHT? YES, IT IS.

MY NAME IS ON THAT.

MAP, MADAM SHERMAN.

WELL, MA'AM, IF SOMEBODY FROM STAFF CAN JUST EXPLAIN HOW, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MENTIONED AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER STARTED GOING DOWN THERE

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JUST BRIEFLY. SO THE DIFFERENCE IN LIKE RIGHT NOW, THE TAX BASE, IT'S AN INSTITUTIONAL USE.

SO THERE'S NO THERE THERE TAX EXEMPT ORGANIZATIONS.

SO NO TAXES ARE BEING PAID, NO PROPERTY TAXES.

IF THIS WERE TO BECOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT'S A CERTAIN TYPE OF TAX BASE.

HOWEVER, THE VALUE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS USUALLY REDUCED.

THE VALUE THAT YOU CAN ASSESS TAXES ON IS REDUCED BY VARIOUS THINGS THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS PUT IN PLACE TO EXEMPT YOU FROM HAVING TO PAY MORE TAXES.

SO ESSENTIALLY, IF YOUR HOUSE IS VALUED AT $150,000, YOU MIGHT BE ONLY PAYING TAXES $100,000 AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE A LOWER LEVEL OF TAX VALUE THAT THAT BRING TAX REVENUE INTO A CITY.

ABOVE THAT, YOU GET INTO COMMERCIAL TYPE CATEGORIES, WHICH MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE NOT INDEPENDENTLY OWNED LIKE CONDOS.

THOSE ARE BASICALLY TREATED LIKE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY AN INCREASE IN TAX BASE BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO EXEMPTIONS LIKE THERE ARE IN SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.

SO THERE'S A MUCH GREATER VALUE ON THAT PROPERTY ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH JUST MEANS IT BRINGS MORE TAXES INTO PAY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THAT AREA. SO COVERING YOUR COSTS FOR YOUR POLICE AND YOUR FIRE AND ALL THE OTHER CITY SERVICES, I HOPE THAT HELPS.

AS ONE LAST THING, MA'AM.

WHAT HAPPENED TO. NO, NO, MA'AM.

WE'LL. WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE ELSE ADDRESS THAT.

WHO'S THE OTHER SPEAKER? THAT WAS IT.

MR. ZENKO. MAYOR.

I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DOCUMENT.

THANK YOU.

AGAIN, KIM ROSENKER, ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS IS GOING TO BE A MARKER EIGHT APARTMENT COMPLEX.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE $3,500 A MONTH.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT REALLY A RELATIVE ISSUE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE MARKET RATE.

AND THE IDEA IS TO HAVE PEOPLE LIVE THERE, GIVE THEM A HOUSING OPTION AS TO THIS DOCUMENT, THIS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES, RIVERSIDE BANK.

THIS APPEARS TO BE A COST MARKET ANALYSIS DONE BY A REALTOR.

SO I HAVE IT. I HAVE THE REST OF THE PAPERWORK, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO READ IT.

AND YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER AGAIN.

I DID IT.

I'M SORRY, MA'AM. AGAIN, IT'S.

IT'S NATIONAL.

IT WAS CERTIFIED TO NATIONAL BANK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

THE LAND FROM THE SUBJECT IS UNBELIEVABLE AS IT IS A PRESERVE.

THIS ISN'T AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT RECORDED IN PUBLIC DOCUMENTS.

IT'S NOT AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN FLORIDA TECH AND THE CITY.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THIS IS, BUT IT'S.

IF IT IS A PRESERVE WE CAN'T BUILD, BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.

IT HASN'T COME UP ON THE TITLE SEARCH.

SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD ASK THE TO APPROVE THE REZONING FROM HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL TO BAYFRONT MIXED USE AS IT DOES MEET YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO QUICK SO QUICK QUESTION.

JUST NOT TO GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE BUT IF, SAY, REZONE AND IF IT IF IT DOES COME TO FIND OUT THAT IT IS PRESERVES, THEN YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS IT ACCORDINGLY, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. ROSENKER. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WHEN IT CLOSED, THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKED FOR A MOTION MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 2-107 FIRST READING.

SECOND, A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

JUST TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, MA'AM, THE QUESTION I JUST ASKED.

THIS WON'T BE THE TIME TO FIND OUT IF IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

BUT GOING DOWN IS WHEN THEY'LL FIND OUT IF IT IS OR NOT.

BASED OFF THE DOCUMENT YOU JUST GAVE TO COUNCILS AND THAT SHE HAS AS WELL.

YES. YES, MA'AM, IT HAS PERSONAL.

SO I WAS JUST ELABORATING ON WHAT WHAT I WAS.

YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND THE PASSION AND I LOVE IT.

I AM.

I HAVE PASSIONS OF MY OWN.

MA'AM? MA'AM, I'M SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH YOU, AND SHE'S GOING TO LOOK INTO IT.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THAT'S ALL.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

GOOD. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 11.

WITNESS 2022 DASH 108 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE

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THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS HENRY MOORE AND I'M A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY, LIVE IN THE TURKEY CREEK SUBDIVISION.

I ALSO HAPPEN TO BE A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER SINCE 1979.

OVERALL, AND BABCOCK STREET, WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE CHECKERS, PIZZA HUT BARBECUE PLACE, THAT STRETCH.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DEVELOPED BACK IN 1980, BACK WHEN THE PUBLIX WAS BEING BUILT.

WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT STRETCH IS EVERY ONE OF THOSE SITES GOT PUT IN IN A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

I HAVE A HANDOUT THAT I'D LIKE TO PASS OUT.

AND I WILL IN A MOMENT.

WHAT I AM WANTING TO DO TO DO IS ZONE SOME. QUARTER ACRE COMMERCIAL LOTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE RC ZONING.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS, IS ONCE MALABAR ROAD BECAME A FOUR LANE.

THE COUNCIL AND STAFF BACK THEN WANTED TO CREATE SOME COMMERCIAL SITES AND I WAS THE REAL ESTATE BROKER THAT DID THE WINN-DIXIE SHOPPING CENTER DEAL, AND I WORKED WITH STAFF DAVE WATKINS, AND AT THAT TIME I BOUGHT UP A BUNCH OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS ALONG THE MALABAR ROAD AND IT WAS BECAUSE I OWNED THE LOTS AND THUS CONTROLLED THEM THAT WE HAVE A FLORIDA I ASSOCIATES ACROSS THE STREET INSTEAD OF A COUPLE OF HOUSES.

THE RC ZONING.

WAS CREATED SPECIALLY FOR THIS STRETCH.

IT WAS ADMINISTRATIVELY REASONED.

IT WAS SORT OF AN EXPERIMENT WHERE DAVE WATKINS AND I WORKED TOGETHER TO DECIDE HOW DEEP TO MAKE THE SITES.

NOW I'M RIGHT NOW SORT OF JUST CONCENTRATING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MALABAR ROAD FROM MINTON ROAD TO EL DRON.

NOW I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PASS A MAP OUT THAT I THINK WILL MAKE THINGS GO PRETTY SMOOTH FOR US.

CUSTOMERS.

IF YOU DO LOOK AT THE MAP.

THE THE EXPERIMENT WAS SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL.

LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT FLORIDA I ASSOCIATES THAT PROJECT NOW NEXT TO IT.

IF YOU LOOK AT NEXT TO IT, YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S CALLED SITE 201.

NOW THAT'S TOTALLY VACANT AND I'M ON MY REAL ESTATE FLIER.

YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE DETAILS.

IT'S LIKE A MENU THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO GET.

RESTAURANTS, WHATEVER, ON THIS STRETCH NOW.

SCHROEDER I ASSOCIATES WENT IN IN 2004.

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IT'S 18 YEARS.

NOW I HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE COURSE OF MY EXPERIENCE AS A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW PEOPLE OUR CITY, OTHER CITIES, OTHER ROADS.

AND I THINK I'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD GRASP OF WHAT OUR CITY STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES ARE, WHAT PEOPLE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE.

NOW WHAT I LIKE ABOUT SITE 201, IT'S IT'S 70,000 SQUARE FEET WHEN WE CAN GET A BIG SIT DOWN RESTAURANT THERE.

IF ANYBODY ON COUNCIL CAN HELP ME SELL IT, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

NOW, IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT SITE 205 AS A THREE LOT COMBINATION, I OWN THAT PERSONALLY.

I'VE GOT A SIGN OUT FRONT.

I'VE HAD PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IT, BUT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION DID NOT MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.

NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SITE 206 HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN OK.

WE OWN THAT ALSO.

FORTUNATELY, WE CONTROL THAT.

THAT'S 250 FEET BY 250 DEEP.

ONCE AGAIN, THAT PUT TWO TWO FAST FOODS THERE, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING SITE 208 OVER BY BREWSTER'S.

THAT'S AN IDEAL SITE FOR ANOTHER DRIVE DRIVE IN.

SO THOSE ARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TRUE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND I CONTROL THEM.

NOW, HERE'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE RED CIRCLES ON THEM.

THOSE ARE VACANT LOTS I OWN AND THERE'S HOUSES IN FRONT OF THEM.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL EVER YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY ANY TIME SOON.

I WANT TO PULL THOSE RED LOTS OUT OF THE RC ZONING.

WHAT WILL BE LEFT IS STILL ENOUGH COMMERCIAL DEPTH IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING SMALLER.

I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE MEDIFAST PROJECT THAT'S UP HERE.

YOU CAN SQUEEZE, YOU KNOW, ON ON 204 WITH A DOUBLE LOT BACK TO BACK AS YOU CAN.

YOU CAN SQUEEZE A MED FAST IN REAL EASY IN WHAT'S LEFT.

OR LIKE THE BREWSTER'S ICE CREAM.

THAT'S TWO LOTS DEEP.

SO BY PULLING OUT THE RED LOTS, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY WE ARE NOT DESTROYING FUTURE COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING SMALL. LIKE I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE LITTLE INSURANCE OFFICE THAT'S UP FRONT, THAT'S ON ONE LOT DEEP.

NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LOCAL BUSINESSES ACTUALLY OPEN UP A BUSINESS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF CITY HALL.

I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME ACCOUNTANTS THERE, SOME LAWYERS, SOME ENGINEERS.

NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, IS THAT.

IF YOU HAVE A SMALL SITE, YOU PUT A SMALL BUILDING IN.

IF YOU USE ENOUGH OF THE BUILDING, YOU CAN GET AN SBA LOAN.

SO ACTUALLY, BY HAVING SOME SMALL SITES LIKE TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, SITE 205, YOU CAN DO ABOUT 6000 SQUARE FEET THERE. BUT IF A DOCTOR WANTED TO USE 4000 OF IT, HE CAN GET AN SBA LOAN.

SO THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS.

SO. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S TIME TO.

IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS NOW, AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OKAY, MR. MORAN, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.

YOU'VE GIVEN US FLORIDA ASSOCIATES, YOU'VE GIVEN US 201205206208.

YOU PUT BREWSTER'S THERE AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE BACK, THOSE VACANT LOTS ARE TRAPPED AND WE'LL REZONE THEM TO RESIDENTIAL SO THAT SHE CAN SELL THEM AND SOMEBODY CAN PUT A HOUSE ON THEM.

THAT'S IT, SIR. THANK YOU.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? OF MR. MOORE.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MR. MORAN. THE FIRST ONE IS WHEN I KNOW YOU'RE INVOLVED HEAVILY IN THIS RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL AREA.

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NUMBER 204, WERE THOSE FOUR HOUSES THERE WHEN YOU CHANGED IT? YES, ALL FOUR OF THOSE HOUSES WERE THERE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE TWO THAT ARE RIGHT ON FRONT WERE TOTALLY REMODELED.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT 207 WHERE THE TWO HOUSES ARE IN FRONT, THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO MY VACANT LOT HAD A TOTAL RENOVATION RESIDENTIAL AGAIN.

THERE CAN BE. THERE CAN BE RESIDENTIAL.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE IN THE GROUND.

BEFORE. FOR.

THEY GET, YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

NOTHING COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY TAKES ONE OF THOSE HOUSES AND TURNS IT INTO LIKE A LITTLE OFFICE.

AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN I'M REALLY STUCK BACK THERE.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE ON COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND, I ONE, I RESPECT AND LOVE EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR BREVARD.

YOU'VE BEEN IN THE GAME LONG BEFORE.

I'VE BEEN ON THIS EARTH.

SO MY ONLY QUESTION FOR THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COULDN'T POTENTIALLY LAND ASSEMBLAGE OCCUR. YOU KNOW WHAT LAND ASSEMBLAGE.

SO SAY SOMEONE WAS TO ACQUIRE THE HOUSES UP FRONT AND THEN TIE IT ALL TOGETHER? WHAT COULD THAT BE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION ON? STILL KEEP AN RC ON THAT AREA.

I KNOW. AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU, BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WELL, COULD IT WORK? COULD IT NOT? IF YOU KNOW WHAT A SITE.

206 THAT'S GREEN.

THAT'S A SIX LOT COMBINATION.

YES, SIR. 18 YEARS LATER, IT'S STILL THERE.

AND I CAN'T SELL IT.

NOW, WHEN YOU GOT FOUR HOUSES UP FRONT IN TODAY'S PRICES WITH IT, THE DEMAND IS NOT THERE. AND NOW SOMETHING ELSE HAS HAPPENED THAT I HAD NEVER EXPECTED.

AND THAT IS IS MALABAR ROAD IS NO LONGER A DEAD END ROAD.

AT ONE TIME, EVERYBODY LIVING WAY BACK THERE HAD TO COME THIS WAY.

SO THE.

POTENTIAL DEMAND FOR THIS AREA ISN'T REALLY WHAT IT WAS BACK THEN.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE LOSING THAT.

SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN 201 IS GOING TO SELL TO 05206208.

SO AS FAR AS THE ONE THAT'S GOT THE FOUR HOUSES UP FRONT.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PLUS.

EVEN WERE THOSE FOUR HOUSES ARE SOMEBODY CAN JUST ASSEMBLE THOSE AND STILL PUT SOMETHING THERE.

DEPUTY MAYOR.

THE MAYOR. WHAT I HAD ASKED, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD, WAS ABOUT LAND ASSEMBLAGE, LIKE POSSIBLY ASSEMBLING THEM AND PUTTING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TOGETHER.

UH, I THINK.

I THINK THAT'S MY. WHAT'S MY QUESTION, MR. MOORE? I DO WANT TO KNOW IF STAFF HAS ANY COMMENTS OR SOMETHING THEY CAN GIVE ME TOWARDS THIS REGARDING OUR C AND CHANGING THE SMALL PORTION OF IT OR JUST IF THEY CAN ELABORATE BECAUSE IF I COULD TALK A LITTLE FREELY.

MAYOR JUST LIKE TO MR. MOORE'S POINT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN A DEAD END ROAD.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, I SEE I THINK IT COULD POTENTIALLY.

I'M ON THE FENCE, MR. MOORE. I'LL SAY THAT, BUT I SEE POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING DOWN BY WHERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER LIVES.

AND NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO JUMP ON A ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

THEY MIGHT COME DOWN MALABAR ROAD AS WELL.

SO THAT'S I'M ON THE FENCE ON THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO JUST HEAR FROM.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP LAND THE SEMBLANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S MY LOGIC BEHIND ALL OF THIS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO. GOOD EVENING.

ALEX BERNARD GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

SO MR. MOM WARREN CAME INTO OUR OFFICE AND PRESENTED THIS IDEA.

HIS CURRENT LAPSE WITH RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL GO THREE DEEP AND HE SHOWED THAT IT REALLY LOOKED LIKE HE NEEDED TWO DEEP AND THE REST WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL AS RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO WE HEARD HIS REQUEST.

HE MADE THE APPLICATION AND IT SEEMED REASONABLE, WHICH IS WHY IT WAS HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

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A SITE THERE.

THEN I THINK IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE POTENTIAL OF THE COMMERCIAL, THE RESTRICTED PART OF IT, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE REDUCING THE ABILITY AND THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.

I THINK HE WORKED HARD ON ON GETTING IT TO THAT PLACE.

BUT I THINK AS THIS CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, THAT POTENTIAL IS THERE.

I DO LIKE THE LOGIC OF LAND ASSEMBLIES BECAUSE SOME COULD BE WORKED OUT THERE.

BUT THANK YOU, MA'AM, VERY WELL FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

HE CAME TO YOU BECAUSE HE WANTED TO JUST SELL IT AS RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT.

SO WE LOST THE MARKET.

THAT LOT IS RESIDENTIAL.

AND WE ON OUR PROPERTY RATES.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD BRIEFLY SO, YOU KNOW, I ALSO UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE TWO SIDES OF THIS PARTICULAR STORY AS WE WATCHED MALABAR DEVELOP OVER TIME.

YOU KNOW, FLORIDA ESTATES IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF ONE WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO USE MORE OF THE THE DEPTH OF THE AREA TO GO A LITTLE BIT LARGER IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

ALSO, TO THINK ABOUT KIND OF HOW MALABAR AT EMERSON HAS BEEN DEVELOPING IN TERMS OF THE THE GAS STATIONS ON THOSE CORNERS.

THIS IS NOT A CORNER. SO THAT'S DIFFERENT OBVIOUSLY.

BUT FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, ALEX IS CORRECT.

I MEAN, THEY PROCESS THIS AS AS THEY SHOULD BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR JOB FROM A SORT OF BIG PICTURE VIEW AS LOOKING AT MALABAR, HAVING LIVED HERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, NOT QUITE AS LONG AS MR. MURRIN. I STILL FEEL LIKE THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT EXISTS IN THAT AREA, AND I WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT WHAT'S PRIOR CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF DID IN CREATING THIS RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL, IT SEEMS LIKE THE INTENT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD FOR OUR CITY.

BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY YOUR DECISION TO MAKE, SIR.

BEN. YOU KNOW THE QUESTION.

ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD, SIR. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. THIS CONCEPT OF MAKES SENSE.

NOW, WHEN THE ORIGINAL PROCESS CAME, THERE WAS RESONANCE THAT LIVED THERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEIR RESIDENTIAL LAND TURNED INTO COMMERCIAL LAND.

SO NO MORE RESIDENTIAL WAS ALLOWED TO BUILD THERE.

AND THAT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SALES THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN THE CITY.

RIGHT. BUT THIS THIS IS A RESULT OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH AN IDEA AND SAYS, WELL, LET'S JUST DRAW A LINES ON THE MAP. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

THEY WENT FROM MALABAR NORTH AND THEY DREW A LINE AND BLOCKED IT OFF, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS ALREADY RESIDENTS THERE.

THEY SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

THEY CHANGED THE THEY CHANGED IT FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT. THAT OLD SAYING OF PRIOR PLANNING PREVENTS PISS POOR PERFORMANCE.

WE'RE NOW GOING BACK THE OTHER WAY.

IT'S A CASE FROM.

NOT LOOKING AT WHAT THE END RESULT IS GOING TO BE.

OVERALL. I UNDERSTAND THE STATEMENT THAT SAYS NO ONE WANTS TO TO BUILD THE FIRST OF ALL, THE RESIDENTS CAN'T BUILD ON THE LOTS AND THE COMMERCIAL DOESN'T WANT THE SMALL LOTS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION AND THE HARDSHIP THERE, BUT WE ALL I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT.

IF WE DON'T LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY.

WE'RE GOING TO REPEAT IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M MY BIG FEAR OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMING UP NOW IS PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO LOOK AT A MAP AND SAY, OH, WELL, WE USED TO JUST MAKE THIS STRIP RIGHT HERE.

ONE FUNCTION, UNLESS THERE WAS SOME OTHER WAY, YOU COULD HAVE WHAT THEY CALL MULTI FUNCTION LIKE YOUR PLANT, YOUR BAYFRONT, MIXED USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF THEY HAD IT AS MIXED USE INSTEAD OF RESTRICTED AND YOU COULD DO BOTH.

BUT NOW YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE FUNCTION.

IF YOU HAD ANOTHER CATEGORY, MAYBE YOU COULD ACCOMPLISH MULTIPLE FUNCTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IN SOMEONE YOU COULD REBUT IN MINUTES.

I'M THE APPLICANT.

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AN ADMINISTRATIVE REZONING.

AND. THE LOTS THAT I WANT TO PULL OUT OF THAT.

FOR 20 YEARS, WE'VE TRIED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.

WHAT IS GOING TO BE LEFT? ON SITE 204 AFTER THESE ARE PULLED OUT IS STILL GOING TO BE A FULL ACRE.

NOW IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

I'M TRYING TO PULL OUT A TOTAL OF THREE LOTS, THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.

NOW, JUST RECENTLY.

A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY GOT AN APPROVAL ON MOUNTAIN ROAD.

SIX ACRES YET ZONED COMMERCIAL.

BUT THAT SIX ACRES IS CREATING TWO JOBS.

NOW THERE IS NO GUARANTEE.

THAT THESE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED CAN NEVER BE COMMERCIAL.

IF SOMEBODY BUYS THE FOUR HOUSES IN FRONT OF THOSE AND PUTS A PROJECT THERE, I'M STUCK.

I'VE PAID MY DUES IN THIS CITY.

I LOVE THIS CITY.

BUT. I'VE GOT 40 YEARS OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE EXPERIENCE.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT I'M ASKING IS FAIR.

AND NOBODY IS GETTING HURT.

THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS.

THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE THAT'S SAYING, HEY, DON'T LET HIM DO THAT.

I'M GOING TO BUY THOSE SIX LOTS IN THE FUTURE.

WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, FOLKS, IS FAIR.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? MR.. FELIX SO DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE BUYERS, POTENTIAL BUYERS FOR THESE LOTS? I'M SORRY. DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE POTENTIAL BUYERS OR DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT SOLICIT THESE TWO LOTS? FOR THE TWO LOTS IN THE BACK.

THE ONE. OH, I'M SORRY.

ON THE ON THE ONE.

ON THE TWO THAT ARE BACK TO BACK.

ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS WANTED TO BUY ONE, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY MARKETING THEM.

I MEAN, I'M PRETTY SURE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE WANTING TO BUILD HOUSES, WE CAN PROBABLY SELL THEM.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, SIR, IS, YOU KNOW, SELL THEM.

SO. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE HOUSES THERE.

YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T DEVELOP THEM INDIVIDUALLY, COMMERCIALLY.

YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE.

I MISSED PART OF YOUR PRIOR COMMENTS.

ARE YOU DO YOU ALL THESE THREE ARE THE ONLY THREE THAT YOU CURRENTLY OWN.

OH, YOU'RE ON IN RED.

THE ONES THAT ARE CIRCLED IN RED.

YES. YES, SIR.

ARE THOSE THE ONES WE OWN? YES. AH YES.

BUT WE ALSO OWN SITE 201 WHERE THE YELLOW IS.

WE OWN SITE 205 OR THE PINK IS WE OWN SITE 206 WHERE THE GREEN IS AND WE OWN SITE TO WHERE THE BLUE WE OWN THOSE, WE CONTROL THOSE THERE.

SOMEBODY CAN'T KEEP US FROM DEVELOPING THEM THERE.

I SEE. THE LOGIC IS BECAUSE OF THE HOUSES.

OKAY. I'M SORRY I MISSED THE.

YES, YES. IT'S WE DON'T CONTROL THOSE HOUSES UP FRONT.

THEY'VE BEEN REMODELED.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF I HAVEN'T SOLD THE THE FOR.

AS COMMERCIAL SITES.

WHAT MAKES US THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HANG ON? TO WHAT I'VE GOT CIRCLED IN RED.

IF I CAN'T, IF I CAN'T SELL IT ALREADY GOT PERFECT EXISTING SITES TO A ONE AS 70,000 SQUARE FEET.

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OH SIX IS 60.

IT'S LIKE A MENU.

I'VE GOT A MENU HERE OF DIFFERENT SIZES, YOU KNOW, FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

AND THEY STILL AREN'T SOLD.

WHERE THE FOCUS OUGHT TO BE AS IS.

I'M DONE. THANK YOU, SIR.

I'M IN FOLSOM. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SIR. SORRY, MISS.

WE TALKED BEFORE.

YES. AND I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR PALM BAY.

AND I'M REPEATING THAT PUBLICLY.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU TRY TO DO AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY CAREFULLY WHEN THEY COME UP AND SPEAK AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR PROPERTY.

AND I SUPPORT YOU 100%.

THANK YOU, SIR. THERE.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, I THANK YOU.

I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO TO PASS ORDINANCE 20 TO 2022.

DASH 108.

SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

I GOT A MOTION BUY.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

MAYOR, DID YOU CLOSE THE HEARING OR.

NO, I DID NOT. OKAY.

BUT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND GO AHEAD AND DETAIN THE MOTION NOW.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 108.

SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, LIKE HENRY MOORE WAS SAYING, I MEAN, HE OWNS SITE 201205206, WHICH ARE STILL OPEN FOR COMMERCIAL.

HE TRIED TO EXPERIMENT ON I'M USING HIS MAP, BY THE WAY, JUST FOR COUNCILS NOTICE.

HE TRIED HIS EXPERIMENT ON 204, THINKING THOSE FOUR HOUSES MAY BECOME DILAPIDATED ONE DAY AND HE COULD KNOCK THEM DOWN AND BUILD A BIG COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THERE.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE REMODELED THEIR HOUSES AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS.

SAME THING WITH 207.

HE TRIED THE THING WITH 207.

IT WORKED HALF WAY WITH BREWSTER'S.

THE TWO HOUSES IN THE FRONT OF HIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THEY'RE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE REMODEL THEIR HOUSE.

SO IT'S BEEN ANOTHER 50 YEARS FOR THAT WILL EVER BECOME ANYTHING.

I THINK HE IS ASKING.

WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR IS FAIR.

AND HE STILL ALSO HAS 201205206 AND TWO EIGHT, WHICH CAN BRING THAT COMMERCIAL THAT WE WANT.

SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM APPROVING THIS FOR MR. WARREN. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY OVER THE YEARS HERE.

INCREDIBLE. NOTHING FURTHER.

MAYOR. MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN PHILLIP. I'M ALONG THE SAME WAVELENGTH AS YOU IN REGARDS TO BEING BEING FAIR, IN THE SENSE I'M LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS.

AND THE ONLY ONE THAT GOES AS DEEP IS, LIKE WE SAID, FLOW TO EYE ASSOCIATION.

AND THIS THIS GENTLEMAN'S BEEN DOING IT FOR 40 YEARS AND THIS HAS BEEN SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH GIVEN UP THE BACK PARCEL, YOU STILL HAVE THE TWO.

TWO LOTS IN THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THE ONLY I ONLY SEE ONE LOT THAT'S THREE LOTS IN THE I ASSOCIATION THAT IS DEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.

THE OTHER ONES I'M LETTING YOU KNOW, MR. MORAN, I'M NOT LOOKING TO WIGGLE ROOM ON TO 012006 I'M HOPING YOU CAN GET THOSE BECAUSE BUT WITH THESE WAY IN THE BACK, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND THIS.

TO ME, THIS IS GREAT MARKETING ADVERTISING LIKE, SO YOU'RE PUTTING IT OUT THERE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE JUST SITTING ON YOUR HANDS DOING NOTHING.

FROM WHAT I SEE, SO.

SO AT THIS TIME I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.

I THINK I'M ON THE OTHER END OF THAT.

THERE WERE FOUR LOTS. THE, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE.

I'M CONSISTENT WITH THIS.

AND I UNDERSTAND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION BECAUSE I THINK THE CONCEPT WAS IDEAL.

I STILL BELIEVE IN THE CONCEPT TODAY.

THOSE THREE LOTS, MAYBE FOUR OR EVEN MORE.

MAYBE COMBINE SOME OF THIS.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

SO I HAVE A MOTION BY.

AND ALSO IN FILIBERTO SINGING BY ACCOUNTS ARE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

COUNCILMAN FELIX. COUNCILMAN.

ALSO, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? AND THE MAYOR, I.

A LITTLE CONFLICT ON THIS ONE AS WELL.

I THINK I'M LEANING MORE OF.

SIDE. I'M.

BY ANY MEANS. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY IS GREAT, BUT I.

[04:50:01]

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING I ALL OPPOSE.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

NAY. SO PASSES 3 TO 2.

WITH MEDINA AND FELIX IN THE NAME.

ITEM NUMBER 12.

ORDINANCE 2022 109, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM R.C.

RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO R.C.

TO SINGLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED E SEVEN ADJACENT TO BROWNING AVENUE IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF MALABAR ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR THE APPLICANT TO STEP INTO THEIR CASE.

THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE, I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY, EXCEPT THAT AFTER 40 YEARS OF TRYING TO SELL PROPERTY IN PALM BAY DEPTH IS NOT ALWAYS MORE DEPTH.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS MORE BETTER.

WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD GO THREE LOTS OR FOUR LOTS BACK.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST THING.

THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS ON ONE LOT DEEP.

BREWSTER'S IS ON TWO LOTS DEEP.

SO I.

BY PULLING MY LIGHTS OUT, WE AREN'T REALLY DESTROYING THE POTENTIAL.

WE MAY ACTUALLY BE CREATING A SMALLER SITE THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO SOMEBODY LOCAL.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU SPEAK OF CARDS? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SOME MOVED SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ALL IN FAVOR? I ALL OPPOSE PASSES 3 TO 2 MEDINA AND FELIX IN THE NAME.

ITEM 13.

ORDINANCE 2020 2-1 TEN AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY VAR COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION ONE 83.01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE WHEN TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

WELL IN REALLY NOTHING ELSE.

REALLY NOTHING ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT FOR ONE THING.

AS ALL OF US CIRCULATE AROUND AND MAKE PEOPLE OR WHATEVER.

HELP ME FIND SOME BUYERS.

IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THAT RUNS A RESTAURANT, IF YOU'RE CONNECTED WITH IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THAT YOU KNOW HAS A CHECKERS, HAS A ANY SORT OF RESTAURANT, IF YOU KNOW WHAT DOCTOR THAT'S THINKING ABOUT MOVING DOWN THE PALM BAY GIVE HIM A FLIER, GIVE HIM MY PHONE NUMBER. I WANT TO GET THOSE PROPERTIES DEVELOP FOR US.

YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT'S LIVING AROUND HERE, IF THEY WANT TO GO SEE AN ACCOUNTANT, I DON'T WANT THEM DRIVING UP TO MELBOURNE TO SEE AN ACCOUNTANT.

I WANT THEM GOING ACROSS THE STREET.

HELP ME OUT.

SO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, STEP FORWARD, PLEASE.

GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

BASICALLY SAME CONCEPTS AS FROM ORDINANCE 22 108.

I ALSO UNDERSTAND 100% LAND LANDOWNERS RIGHTS.

BUT IT. HE'S REQUESTING IT.

HE'S MAKING THE REQUEST IS WHAT YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE HE OWNS THE LAND AND THEN PROCEED FROM THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DOES ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO COME SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? CNN. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING THERE.

YES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE 2022 TWO 110.

SECOND, A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

[04:55:02]

I ALL OPPOSE PASSES 3 TO 2.

BE ON ITEM 14.

ORDINANCE 2020 2-1 11 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM OUR SEA RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO OUR TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED BETWEEN AND ADJACENT TO DUVAL AND BATTERY, BATTERSEA AVENUES, IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF MALABAR ROAD, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT AGAIN TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

I JUST WANT TO LET ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO DO THE VERY BEST I CAN TO GET THOSE PROPERTIES SOLD.

TRY TO GET US A RESTAURANT OR TWO THERE, TRY TO GET US SOME OFFICE BUILDING SO THAT PEOPLE LIKE JAKE WISE IS RENTING ACROSS THE STREET INSTEAD OF UP IN MELBOURNE.

I WANT TO HAVE OUR PROFESSIONALS, I WANT TO TRY TO CREATE AT LEAST SOME SORT OF A PROFESSIONAL OR MEDICAL DISTRICT HERE.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH, MR. MORAN. YOU HAVE HE COUNSEL QUESTIONS SAID, SIR, I LIKE YOUR SPIRIT.

I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SAYING SINCE YOU'VE BEEN COMING UP THERE.

I JUST. THIS MIGHT BE A PERSONAL QUESTION.

HOW OLD ARE YOU? 73. AND YOU STILL ACTIVE? STILL ACTIVE, SIR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

I'M PRAYING I COULD REACH THAT AGE AND BE AS ACTIVE AS YOU.

I'VE SHOWN THESE PROPERTIES A STARBUCKS SEVEN BREW.

I WAS INVOLVED IN A STARBUCKS ON NEW HAVEN.

BELIEVE ME, I'M HUSTLING FROM 73.

YOU'VE BEEN? IT SEEMED LIKE YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK.

THAT'S WHY I SAY I APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY SPEAKERS, DEPUTY MAYOR? HEY, NONE.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2022 111 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I ALL OPPOSE NAY.

PASSES 3 TO 2.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 15, MISS SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 112, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

A CHANGING OF ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM R.M.

TEN SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R.M.

15 SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT PROPERTIES LOCATED BETWEEN MALABAR ROW AND BIDDLE STREET IN THE VICINITY WEST OF MEADOW FLATS PARKWAY, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

Q MA'AM? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER.

I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF LACY LYONS ROSENKER.

MY VOICE IS TURNING TO CRACK.

I'VE BEEN SPEAKING SO MUCH TODAY.

I APOLOGIZE. I'M HERE WITH ON BEHALF OF THE BROWNSTONE GROUP, REPRESENTATIVE JEREMY MEARS.

HE'S THE DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, BRUCE MOYA, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, AND JAMES TAYLOR, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER FROM KIMLEY-HORN.

THIS WAS BEFORE YOU BACK APPARENTLY ON MAY 19TH FROM THE STAFF REPORT WHERE WE TOOK THIS U-SHAPE AND MADE IT CONSISTENT, MADE IT ALL.

TO BE THE R.M.

TEN. THE DEVELOPER IS NOW COMING BACK AND ASKING FOR R.M.

15. HE HAD TRIED TO LIMIT IT, ACTUALLY TOOK AWAY HOUR AND 15 AND QUITE A BIT OF IT.

THREE FOURTHS OF THE PROPERTY WAS ALREADY RMB 15 AND HE CHANGED IT THE SAME TIME HE CHANGED THAT PARCEL TO THE NORTH EXCUSE ME, SOUTH ON MALABAR ROAD TO A COMMERCIAL PARCEL THAT'S USABLE.

SO THIS, THAT COMMERCIAL PARCEL WILL STAY ON MALABAR ROAD.

BUT I SHOW YOU THIS BECAUSE THIS IS PUTTING BACK HOUR AND 15 THAT WAS TAKEN OUT BEFORE ALONG WITH THERE WERE SOME OFFICE SPACE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL THAT WAS TAKEN OUT AS WELL.

SO WHAT HE IS ATTEMPTING TO DO IS TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE A DIFFERENT PRODUCT, TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRODUCT.

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AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ODD REASON TO COME BACK FOR ZONING.

IT WAS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT, IN MY OPINION, IF WE HAD COME AND ASK FOR THAT BACK IN MAY.

BUT BECAUSE OF CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS, IN FACT, I'VE HAD TWO DEVELOPER PULL OUT THIS WEEK BECAUSE OF CAPITAL MARKET CONSTRICTIONS.

THE DEVELOPER HAS COME BACK AND IS ASKING FOR THE M.

THE 15? YES. AGAIN, THIS WAS CALLED ARTESIA WHEN WE CAME HERE BEFORE.

IT'S NOW CALLED ALLEGRA.

THE ARTESIA WAS THE COTTAGE STYLE ONE AND TWO STORIES.

THIS IS A TRADITIONAL THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THE REASON THAT THIS IS COMING BACK NOW AND ALSO THERE'S A COMPANION CONDITIONAL USE FOR A VARIANCE HEIGHT IS TO ALLOW THREE STOREYS INTO COMPACT EVERYTHING TO THE CENTER.

THE RESIDENTS HAD SAID THEY WANTED THINGS BACK.

THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING ON THIS AND THEY WERE NOT OVERLY OPPOSED TO IT.

THEY WERE HAPPY. WE'RE COMING EVEN FURTHER BACK 112 FEET, 110 FEET FROM BIDDLE STREET.

YOU REMEMBER THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IN OPPOSITION FROM MIDDLE STREET INITIALLY, AND THE BUFFERS WERE CHANGED AND THE BUFFERS ARE CHANGED EVEN MORE SUBSTANTIALLY.

RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ON 17.44 ACRES TO ALLOW 261 APARTMENTS.

AND THIS IS GOING TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE SETBACKS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND FROM THE EAST.

THE SITE PLAN.

LET ME GO THROUGH THIS.

THIS IS THE PRODUCT NOW ON SITE.

THEY ARE TRADITIONAL.

APARTMENT COMPLEX. THREE STORIES AND THE AMENITIES IS IN THE FRONT, JUST AS IT WAS WHEN WE CAME HERE BEFORE.

THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL IS STILL IN THE FRONT.

IT USES THE JOINT ACCESS WITH THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

IT'S SAID DEEDED ACCESS OF RECORD.

THAT'S THE PROJECT LOOKING FROM THE WEST.

YOU CAN SEE THE ENHANCED BUFFERS.

FROM MIDDLE STREET TO THE NORTH, 120 FEET AND 111 FEET AS IT GOES ALONG THE ROAD.

BEFORE THOSE BUFFERS WERE NOT NEARLY AS LARGE.

THEY WERE 35 FEET.

THERE'S ALSO A NATURAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO HELP BLOCK THE VIEW.

THIS IS WHAT THE ELEVATIONS WILL LOOK LIKE.

SAYS THE AMENITIES AREA, THE DOG PARK, THE PLAYGROUND THAT WILL BE ON THE SITE.

ONE IN TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

AND THIS IS THE PRODUCT THAT THE BROWNSTONE GROUP HAS DONE IN OTHER LOCATIONS, AND IT HAS PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

THIS WILL ALLOW FOR DIVERSITY OF APARTMENT CHOICES.

THERE IS COOL CAPACITY AVAILABLE.

WE DO HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINE HERE FOR ANY TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND HE CAN SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.

THIS WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF A VACANT PARCEL THAT CURRENTLY HAS TRANSIENT ON IT.

IT'S A IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A HEAVILY WOODED AREA NOW.

IT WILL PROVIDE FOR NEEDED HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, TAXED AT A HIGHER TAX RATE THAN SINGLE FAMILY.

IT WILL PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM MIDDLE STREET.

THERE'LL BE NO ACCESS ONTO MIDDLE STREET.

THE ANZ STAFF REPORT DOES SAY THAT IT MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING REQUEST.

IT HAS WALKABILITY WITH A MIX OF USES BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL TO THE FRONT.

IT ADVANCES THE COMP PLAN AND PROMOTES A BALANCED MIXTURE OF USE.

THE CONDITIONAL USE VARIANCE THAT WOULD BE REQUESTED IS ON THE AGENDA BUT WILL BE HEARD IF THIS MAKES IT TO SECOND READING IS TO ALLOW A HEIGHT INCREASE FROM 25 FEET TO 39 FEET.

THIS IS NECESSARY TO CLUSTER THE BUILDINGS, AS THE RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED.

OF YOUR RMB TEN AND RMB.

BUT YOUR ARM TEN ARM 15 HAS VERY LOW HEIGHTS COMPARED TO MOST OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.

THE YOU NEED TO HAVE THREE STORIES FOR THIS.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE OVER 25 FEET.

25 FEET ONLY GETS YOU TWO STORIES.

SO AT THE COUNTY FOR 15 SNEAKERS, 35 FEET, CAPE CANAVERAL, IT'S 45 FEET.

COCO'S 35, MELBOURNE IS 48.

ROCK LEDGES AS MUCH AS 60, DEPENDING.

TITUSVILLE IS 35 FEET AT 15 UNITS TO ACRE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING.

AND SO THAT VARIANCE IS NECESSARY THAT VARIOUS HEIGHT THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS IS NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT FEASIBLE.

OTHERWISE, IT CAN'T BE DONE IN TWO FLOORS.

THAT WAS THE OTHER ISSUE WHEN WE WERE COMING TO YOU LAST TIME IS THEY ONLY NEEDED TWO FLOORS, SO THE R.M.

TEN WAS SUFFICIENT AND IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT FOR THIS PROJECT NOW.

I MEAN, THIS PRESENTATION THAT YOU PROVIDED, THESE ILLUSTRATIONS.

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NO, THIS ISN'T. THIS IS JUST THE LOCATION IS FAMILIAR.

NO, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THE ACTUAL ELEVATION.

THE. IS THERE IS THERE AN ILLUSTRATION WHERE WHEN YOU CAME BACK IN MAY WE PROVIDED MADE TOWNHOMES LOOK LIKE THEY WERE APARTMENTS, BUT THEY WERE COTTAGE STYLE.

SOME WERE SINGLE, SOME WERE LEXUS, SOME WERE SINGLE DUPLEXES, TWO STORES, TWO FLOORS.

THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

NO, SIR, I DON'T I DO NOT HAVE THEM.

THIS IS THIS IS A NEW PRODUCT.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD THIS IS A NEW PRODUCT.

AND WE HAVE TO PROVE TO YOU THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT.

I THINK ALSO LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO COMPARISON.

POINT MADE. I DON'T HAVE IT IN.

I APOLOGIZE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD BE BROUGHT UP BECAUSE THERE WAS A PRESENTATION IN THAT TIME AS WELL.

SOME OF THEM WERE TWO FLOORS, SOME OF THEM WERE ONE FLOORS, SOME OF THEM WERE SINGLE, SOME OF THEM WERE DUPLEXES, SOME OF THEM WERE TOWNHOMES.

BUT IT WAS A MAX HEIGHT OF 25 FEET AT THAT TIME.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THIS DOES MEET YOUR HOUSING ELEMENT GOALS OF PROVIDING AVAILABILITY AND VARIETY OF HOUSING IN THE CITY, MAINTAINING HOUSING QUALITY. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS WILL BE.

THIS WILL BE A NEW QUALITY HOUSING APARTMENT COMPLEX 261 UNIT AND A CURRENTLY VACANT LOT HAS NOT BEEN USED FOR ANYTHING AND IT IS A PROJECT THAT IS CONSISTENT AND MEETS YOUR COMPLAINT AND YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

MR. JEREMY MEARS IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGING CONDITIONS, CHANGING ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS AND WHAT THE RENTS WILL BE LIKE.

THANK YOU. AND WHAT IS HOW MANY ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS ARE YOU GOING TO BE PROVIDING THEM? IT WILL BE 261.

WE DID CLOSE TO 100 AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A SET NUMBER.

IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 120 AND 160.

YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD NOT WE HAD NOT TO WHAT, TO 61.

AND IT WAS ONE 2122 BEFORE IT WAS 120 TO 161.

REMEMBER, BASED UPON WHAT THE ZONING WAS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO YOU WERE GOING TO CALL SISTER MYERS? DROP.

THIS IS JEREMY MEARS.

I'M AN 1825 RIVERVIEW DRIVE IN MELBOURNE.

YEAH. I WANT TO TOUCH REAL QUICK ON OUR BACK AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S KIND OF WONDERING THAT BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A COTTAGE STYLE PRODUCT BEFORE.

YES, SIR. AND.

AND I GOT IT. WE LOVE THAT PRODUCT, TOO.

AND AND I WANT TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS AND IF YOU WOULD.

THIS THIS SHEET RIGHT HERE THAT I AND IF WE COULD, I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE COULD LOOK AT THIS ONE SHEET HERE.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. WHAT THIS IS, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT OUR PREVIOUS PRODUCT WAS, AND IT WAS THE COTTAGES THAT WAS 117 UNITS.

WHAT WE INITIALLY PRESENTED WITH THE 120,000 NET RENTABLE SQUARE FEET AND THE PER UNIT COST BEFORE INFLATION STARTED, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S FACING THIS.

EVERYBODY, EVERY DEVELOPER IN THE INDUSTRY IS REALLY FIGHTING COST, THEY'RE FIGHTING INTEREST RATES.

THE CAPITAL MARKETS ARE STARTING TO DRY UP RIGHT NOW.

IT'S BECOMING VERY CHALLENGING TO BUILD ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT.

SO AND WE'RE UNLIKE MYSELF, THERE ARE MANY OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT ARE FACING THIS.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO JUST TRY TO REINVENT SOME OF THE PRODUCT TYPE THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND COME UP WITH A PRODUCT TYPE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS IN THE MARKET.

SO THAT PRODUCT BEFORE INFLATION STARTED, WE ORIGINALLY UNDERWROTE THAT PRODUCT PER UNIT COST WAS 258,000 A UNIT THAT'S $251 A SQUARE FOOT TO BUILD THAT PRODUCT.

AND THE RENT FOR THAT UNIT WAS GOING TO BE A DOLLAR 78, A SQUARE FOOT AVERAGE RENT OF 1828 A MONTH FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY AFTER INFLATION STARTED. THIS WAS AFTER THE ZONING HAPPENED.

WE STARTED PRICING OUT THAT PRODUCT AND IT CAME IN.

OUR RENT WOULD HAVE BEEN $2.28 A SQUARE FOOT TO RENT THAT TYPE PRODUCT, AND THE COST OF THAT UNIT TO DEVELOP WENT UP TO 323,000 A UNIT, AND THAT'S A 25% INCREASE IN COST.

AND LOOK, WE COULD WE COULD BUILD THAT PRODUCT WHERE NO ONE WOULD INVEST IN IT.

THERE WOULD BE NO ONE IN PALM BAY THAT COULD PROBABLY LIVE THERE.

IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE NORMS OF ALL RENTAL RATES IN TOWN.

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SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.

WHEN WE CAME BEFORE COUNSEL, WE DID NOT HAVE THIS COST.

WE WERE STILL THE INFLATION WAS ON THE RISE, INTEREST RATES WERE STILL GOING UP.

WE WEREN'T SURE HOW HIGH IT WAS GOING TO GO.

AND ITS AND OBVIOUSLY WITH INTEREST RATES PROBABLY GOING TO CREEP UP TO THE 8% WE'VE GOT INFLATION RIGHT NOW IS STILL ABOVE 8% AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING THAT DOWN OBVIOUSLY. SO THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO IS TRY TO COME UP WITH MORE UNITS BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE RISING COST, YOU HAVE TO CREATE MORE REVENUE AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CREATE MORE REVENUE IS HAVE MORE UNITS.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT WHEN NOW IT'S L.A.

APARTMENTS, 261 UNITS, YOU GET MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, 257,106 SQUARE FOOTAGE.

NOW THE UNIT CALLS DROPS OF 231,000 A DOOR EVEN WITH INFLATION.

AND THAT'S IT. AND THAT RIGHT THERE BRINGS OUR COST BACK DOWN TO THE ORIGINAL PROJECTION OF A DOLLAR 79, A SQUARE FOOT TO RENT WITH AN AVERAGE OF 1761 A MONTH, WHICH IS LESS THAN WHAT THAT ORIGINAL PRODUCT WAS.

SO THIS THIS ENTIRE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH IS JUST TO TRY TO GET OUR COST DOWN BY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF UNITS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE RENTAL RATES THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

AND WITHOUT WITHOUT DOING THAT, I MEAN, THIS OBVIOUSLY, THIS PRODUCT CAN'T GO FORWARD.

IT JUST CAN'T IT MAYBE IT CAN IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS WHEN INFLATION COMES BACK DOWN.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE.

AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING MORE AND MORE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS COMING BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT'S GOING TO WORK IN THIS TYPE MARKET. IT REALLY IS.

SO I WANT TO SHOW THAT.

AND SO.

THAT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND LOOK, LIKE I SAID, MAN, I LOVE THAT OTHER PRODUCT TYPE.

THIS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, I'M HAVING TO DO IT IN OTHER MARKETS AS WELL.

IN FLORIDA, IT'S AFFECTING A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

AND IT'S JUST THE REALITY WE'RE ALL FACING RIGHT NOW.

WHEN WE WERE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, THAT WAS ONE ISSUE.

AND THE OTHER ISSUE THEY BROUGHT UP WAS FIRE.

AND THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S ANOTHER LITTLE THING HERE THAT I HAVE I'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT, IF YOU WOULD.

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING APARTMENTS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO FIRES.

AND I JUST WANTED TO WANT TO BRING THIS AND SHOW THAT THAT THE OVERALL HOME FIRES IN 2021, THERE WERE 7.9 DEATHS PER 1000 REPORTED HOME FIRES, WHICH WAS A HIGHER RATE, WHICH WAS HIGHER THAN THE RATE OF 7.1 IN 1980.

SO BUT APARTMENTS WAS 31% LOWER IN THOSE SAME TIME FRAMES.

SO I THINK APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN SAFER JUST BECAUSE IN APARTMENTS ALL OUR UNITS ARE SPRINKLED.

YOU HAVE FIRE ALARMS, A LOT OF FIRE SAFETY FIREWALLS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHEN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, YOU DON'T.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT THAT SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.

AND IN IN PALM BAY, 86% OF THE HOUSING UNITS IN PALM BAY ARE ONE AND TWO FAMILY HOMES.

10% ARE MULTI FAMILY.

OF THE MULTIFAMILY, 41% OR THREE STORIES ARE GREATER.

SO JUST TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW THREE STORIES SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOK, IT'S FROWNED UPON IN SOME AREAS, BUT IN PALM BAY, 41% OF THE APARTMENTS ARE THREE STORY AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE NEEDING JUST TO GET OUR UNIT COUNT UP AS WELL.

THE TWO STORY, IF WE WHEN WE LOOKED AT TWO STORY, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUSH ALL THE BUILDINGS OUT TO THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, WHICH WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO, AND THAT'S A DRONE SHOT ACTUALLY WITH THE OVERLAY OF THE CAD FILE, YOU CAN SEE THE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO THE WEST, WHICH THE WEST ON THE PAGE THAT'S ACTUALLY NORTH.

AND ALL THE TREES WERE TRYING TO SAVE AROUND THE PERIMETER.

AND WE DID THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AFTER MEETING WITH THEM, WE PUSHED WE PUSHED OUR SETBACKS EVEN FURTHER THAN THE FIRST TIME TO CREATE THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHOW THAT TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEY LEFT AND FEELING REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS PRODUCT TYPE, EVEN THE THREE STORY.

SO BECAUSE WITH THE LINE OF SIGHT AND THE TREE BUFFER, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ALL THAT NATURAL.

YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO REALLY SEE THESE APARTMENTS.

PLUS, WE'RE KEEPING THE EIGHT, EIGHT, EIGHT FOOT HIGH FENCE THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD PROMISED.

SO WE'VE WE'VE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY THEY SEEM REALLY, REALLY OKAY WITH IT AFTER WE AFTER WE LEFT WITH THEM.

SO THEY REALIZE THIS LAND IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED.

AND THEY WERE THEY WERE HAPPY TO WORK WITH US BECAUSE WE WERE AT LEAST MEETING WITH THEM AND TALKING.

SO. SO THAT WAS THAT'S THAT WAS WHAT WE DID THERE.

SO AND LOOK, IN SOME OF THESE UNITS, WE MAYBE LOOK AT DOING SOME EXECUTIVE RENTALS POTENTIALLY FOR FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA AS WELL.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT ALSO.

SO. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST AT LEAST I COULD HEAR IT FROM ME EXACTLY WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND HAVING TO COME BACK.

IT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED TO DO INITIALLY, BUT I THOUGHT AT LEAST COME BEFORE YOU BECAUSE I'D REALLY LOVE TO DEVELOP THIS PRODUCT TYPE AT THIS SITE, AND I WISH IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE OTHERS, BUT THIS IS A GREAT PRODUCT TYPE AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT'S IT'S NEEDED.

IT'S ATTAINABLE HOUSING.

WE CAN KEEP OUR RENTS DOWN LOW ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE SEEING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE LOOKED FOR RENTAL HOUSING LATELY, BUT IT'S GETTING

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IT'S GETTING VERY DIFFICULT.

IT'S GOING TO EVEN GET HARDER JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF IT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME ONLINE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ABLE TO GET THEIR FINANCING BECAUSE THE CAPITAL MARKETS ARE GETTING TOUGHER AND TOUGHER.

SO. ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, SIR, FIRST, I WANT TO I DO WANT TO APPLAUD YOU, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF APPLICANTS IN THE PAST.

AND I CAN PERSONALLY SAY MY FOUR YEARS ON COUNCIL, YOU HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE MOST FORTHCOMING AND TRYING TO ENGAGE AND WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS.

SO TO THAT POINT, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT, WHICH I ALSO THINK IS WHY I CAN'T REMEMBER THE VOTE, BUT I KNOW I SUPPORTED IT.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY, BECAUSE I SAW, YOU KNOW, THE UP I'LL SAY, UPROAR FROM BIDDLE STREET ON, YOU KNOW, THE RESISTANCE FROM IT.

BUT I SAW YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THEM.

AND I SEE. IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I KNOW I WAS ALWAYS HESITANT AT FIRST UNTIL I SAW WHAT SHE WAS DOING WITH MIDDLE STREET.

AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH BEALE STREET BEING MORE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I EXPECT THEM TO BE AS WELL.

BUT IT'S ACTUALLY AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE YOU'LL ELABORATE OR SOMEBODY ELSE WILL.

TO ME, THIS THIS THE PREVIOUS PROJECT I WAS MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ONE KIND OF DISCOURAGES ME WHILE BIDDLE STREET IS ALLEVIATED MALABAR ROAD IS NOT SO MUCH IN MY EYES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE I JUST SAW THE SAME REPORT A FEW DAYS AGO, ABOUT 8%.

SO ME PERSONALLY, IF YOU COULD TALK ME THROUGH IT, BUT I WOULD RATHER JUST EITHER THE PROJECT AS IT IS OR JUST SIT AND WAIT IT OUT.

BEFORE WE DO THIS, MUCH MORE ON MALABAR ROAD IN A ALREADY SOMEWHAT CONGESTED AREA.

J JAMES TAYLOR CAN SPEAK ON THAT WITH KIMLEY-HORN.

HE ACTUALLY DID A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THAT.

SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IT. EVEN JAMES TAYLOR KIMLEY-HORN TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR THE DEVELOPER.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF WAY EARLY ON GOING BACK TO DECEMBER TO DEVELOP A METHODOLOGY FOR THE STUDY.

WE WERE RUNNING AHEAD THE WHOLE TIME TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES WITH STAFF.

THE SITE DOES GENERATE ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT OF YOUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD STARBUCKS WITH A DRIVE THRU.

SO YOU SEE 261 UNITS.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT IT'S A COFFEE SHOP.

MALABAR ROAD IS AN EXISTING DEFICIENCY TODAY TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE.

IT IS ONE OF DOT'S OR SPACE COAST TOSS TOP PRIORITIES.

IT IS IN PLANNING RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY ANTICIPATE 2028 TO 2030.

THERE MAY BE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT THE TIME THAT THIS WOULD BE DEVELOPED.

SO ALL ALL THOSE ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED AND THEY ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE PRIORITIES.

THE SITE TODAY HAS A RIGHT TURN IN AS WELL AS A LEFT TURN IN ON THE ROAD THAT'S EXISTING TODAY.

THOSE TURN LANES ARE SUFFICIENT FOR CAPACITY.

WE DID IDENTIFY THE INTERSECTION AT I-95 AND MALABAR TO BE A LITTLE BIT DEFICIENT TODAY JUST BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF RIGHT TURNS WITH OR WITHOUT THE PROJECT.

AND WE DID IDENTIFY HOW THAT COULD BE SOLVED WITH A.

RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO STOP TAKE A RIGHT TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY.

THAT WAS A FREE FLOW.

IT WOULD WORK A LOT BETTER OUT OF OUR HANDS.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S DOT IN THERE RIGHT AWAY.

BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY DEFICIENCY THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED IN THE FUTURE AT AN INTERSECTION.

AND THEN WITH MALABAR EVENTUALLY BEING FOUR LANES, THAT WAS THE OTHER DEFICIENCY THAT WOULD BE CORRECTED WITH SOMETHING THAT DOT ALREADY HAS IN THE HOPPER.

THEY'RE READY TO GO. I JUST GOT TO GET THAT FUNDING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON TRAFFIC? NOT ON TRAFFIC. I JUST.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD GO TO 20, 30 OR 2028.

DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY? SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, BY THE TIME THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR THE ROAD AND BEING WIDENED, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT JIM REEVES JEREMY'S TIMING IS FOR THIS.

IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE WHEN THE ROAD IS ACTUALLY THERE TODAY OR WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE WIDENED.

ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH.

YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CORDS ON? THIS ITEM 15. WE HAVE THREE SPEAKER CARS.

MAYOR WE HAVE BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY BETSY GILBERT AND PETE GILBERT.

GILBERT AND 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

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EVERYBODY DID.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT.

ECONOMY'S CHANGED AND THE ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT DEVELOPERS AREN'T GOING TO DEVELOP UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MONEY.

THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

IF WE GO BACK AND REWIND TIME AND THE THE WISHES AND THE WANTS, I WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE FINANCIAL CRISIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER BEFORE IT WAS IMPACTING SO HARD TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE HAD SOME OF THE APARTMENTS AND SOME OF THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSES BEING BUILT IN THE CITY INSTEAD OF NOW WHERE IT'S THE ONLY OPTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING.

SO THAT BEING SAID.

YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND REWIND IT AND RERUN HISTORY.

BUT THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS PASSED BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

IT WASN'T PASSED WITH THE PRESENTED REQUEST FOR THREE STOREY APARTMENTS, WHICH IS NOW EVEN ASKING FOR A VARIANCE IN HEIGHTS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE ZONING.

SO I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GO, BUT I ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT THE PERSON ASKS FOR SOMETHING AND YOU GO AHEAD AND START START DOWN THE ROAD.

AND IT GETS CHANGED SOME.

SOMETIMES YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT SLIGHTED BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS VERY COLD AND SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE, BUT ACCEPTABLE.

BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SWITCH AND BAIT.

YOU APPROVED THIS, BUT HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

AND THEY AREN'T THE EXACT SAME.

DON'T MEAN TO INSULT, BUT THAT'S HOW THE IMPACT OF THE ACTION IMPACTS ME.

THANK YOU. YOU BETSY GILBERT, FOLLOWED BY PETE GILBERT.

MY NAME'S BETSY GILBERT.

I LIVE AT 1902 BIDDLE STREET.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS EVENING.

I'M JUST GOING TO READ MY NOTES.

IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO REMEMBER.

I'M BETSY, AND MY HUSBAND PETE IS HERE.

WE LIVE AT 1902 BIDDLE STREET, AND WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE PROPOSED BY THE BROWNSTONE GROUP.

OUR HOME IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

WE FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROPERTY WILL EVENTUALLY BE DEVELOPED.

WE KNOW THAT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND IF NOT BY THE BROWNSTONE GROUP, THEN BY ANOTHER DEVELOPER.

HOWEVER, MR. MYERS AND HIS TEAM HAVE REACHED OUT TO US ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS THROUGH THIS PROCESS, LIKE LIKE YOU'VE NOTICED, MR. JOHNSON, TO TRY AND MITIGATE THE IMPACT.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT BROWNSTONE HAS INCREASED THE BUFFER BETWEEN OUR WEST PROPERTY LINE AND THEIR EAST PROPERTY LINE BY ABOUT 100 FEET. IF YOU REMEMBER LAST TIME, MY BIG POINT WAS TEN FEET FROM MY PROPERTY.

100 FEET IS A LOT MORE.

IN ADDITION, THEY'RE GOING TO BE KEEPING THE NATURAL BUFFER THERE AND THE EXISTING TALL PINES AND TALL OAK TREES THAT LINE THAT PROPERTY LINE.

ALSO, THE THE BUFFER AND THE NATURAL TREES AND THE BIG TREES ALONG THE MIDDLE HAS A MUCH BIGGER BUFFER THAN 25 FEET.

I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER, BUT MR. MYERS CAN GIVE YOU THAT.

BUT I THINK THE MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WAS THEIR BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS THEY WERE GOING TO SEE IT AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH TALL PINES AND TALL OAKS TO TRY AND SEE IT.

ADDITIONALLY, AN EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE WILL PROVIDE ADDED RELIEF AND SECURITY.

ESSENTIALLY, THIS PROPOSAL OFFERS US MORE PRIVACY AND GREEN SPACE THAN THE MX TEN PLAN THAT MAKES ALL OF US HAPPY.

IT IMPROVES THE MIDDLE STREET BUFFERS GREATLY AS WELL.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE TAKEAWAY IS MR. MYERS AND HIS TEAM HAVE REALLY TRIED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND WE DON'T SEE THAT OFTEN AND WE'RE SEEING IT TODAY.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TO LOOK AT THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE OVER 1902 BIDDLE STREET.

EVERYTHING MY WIFE SAID.

BUT ONE ISSUE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT IS THE GROWING HOMELESS CAMP.

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WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING INTERACTIONS WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S IT'S DISTURBING.

OUR SIX YEAR OLD GRANDDAUGHTER LIVES WITH US, SO.

I SUPPORT IT TOO.

THANK YOU. OUR SLICE.

ROBERT'S 1796 WIN BOOK DRIVE SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

JUST WANT TO KIND OF BOLT ON TO WHAT BILL WAS TALKING ABOUT AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE HOSPITAL JUST ON TOP OF THAT SCREEN THERE.

OKAY. SO WE TRIED TO GO TO THE BEACH AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.

IF WE IF WE GET OUT, MALABAR ROAD IS LIKE THE INDY 500 AND ALL OF THIS IS SPILLING OUT.

AND I HATE TO BE THE SAFETY KING ON THIS, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOT TO STEP UP.

ALL OF THIS IS SPELLING OUT ON MALABAR ROAD.

SO IF I'M LOOKING AT MY STUFF.

AVAILABLE TO THANK 261 UNITS TIMES TWO PEOPLE.

THAT'S A LOT OF CARS, PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, THE DANGEROUS AREA AS YOU ZOOM DOWN THERE, THEY AVERAGING 50 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS RIGHT REAL QUICK, PLEASE THINK OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

PLEASE THINK IN A TRAFFIC PLACE.

THINK WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE DEVELOPMENTS OR WHATNOT, HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT IS GOING TO BE MORE ACCIDENTS, INCIDENTS, MORE PRESSURE ON POLICE AND FIRE ON WHAT HAVE YOU.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHAT THE BUILDER IS TALKING ABOUT.

I GET IT. IT MAY NOT BE THE IDEAL PLACE.

THAT'S A TERRIBLE ROAD TO BE ON PEOPLE.

JUST WHEN THAT LIGHT CHANGES ON BABCOCK AND IT'S BABCOCK STREET AND TOWARDS THE BEACH, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING LIKE CRAZY. SO I DON'T I'M NOT SURE I'LL SAY IF THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE.

THANK YOU.

OH. FOR CLOSING REMARKS OR.

FIRST, I'D LIKE MR. TAYLOR TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IN WHICH WAY THEY GO AND THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY REQUIRES A TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL AS DUTY FOR THIS ROADWAY, FOR ACCESS PERMIT.

DUTY IS NOT LOOKED AT THE STUDY YET, BUT I WILL SAY FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A SAFE CONDITION WHEN THEY APPROVE IT.

THE TURN LANES THEMSELVES ARE GOING TO BE A WAY TO GET TRAFFIC OUT OF THE WAY OF FAST MOVING VEHICLES ON MALABAR ROAD TO SLOW DOWN TO SAFELY ENTER THE THE THE COMPLEX.

SO SAFETY SHOULDN'T BE A CONCERN.

DOT WILL ADDRESS THAT.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY EVERYTHING I HEARD ON TRAFFIC.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD, SIR. SORRY.

JUST TO SAY, AS WELL AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE RUN MODELS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO FROM THE PROJECT.

ABOUT 10% OF THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GO EAST TO AND FROM.

MOST OF THIS TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO TO THE INTERSTATE TO BABCOCK ROAD TO THE WEST.

SO THE HIGH SPEED WILL REALLY NOT BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT.

I THINK AS THEY GO TO THE BEACH, MAYBE THEY START TO PICK UP SPEED, BUT WE'RE NOT IN THAT HIGH SPEED AREA.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.

WE HAD APPROVED AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK EVERYONE ON THIS DIE IS LOVED THE COTTAGE.

RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT WAS A GREAT PRODUCT.

AND AND TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS THE BAIT AND SWITCH.

RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THOSE COTTAGES, IT WAS APPROVED THAT 120.

AND I BELIEVE MISS KIM SAID 176.

WELL, THE ZONING ALLOWED UP TO TEN UNITS OF THE ACRES, SO WE COULD HAVE BUILT UP TO LIKE 170, 176 OF THOSE COTTAGES.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A COTTAGE, YOU'RE KIND OF LIMITED BY SEPARATION BETWEEN BUILDINGS.

SO YOU CAN ONLY WE CAN ONLY GET IT TO MAYBE AROUND 130 WHEN WE TRIED TO PACK IT IN THERE AND THE MATH JUST DIDN'T WORK WHEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN 130. THE MAX? YES, SIR. JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT TO PARK IT AND YOU'VE GOT SEPARATIONS AND YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE LIVING ON TOP OF OTHER PEOPLE.

IT'S JUST A ONE FAMILY DWELLING.

AND A LOT OF THEM WERE DUPLEXES.

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WE STARTED CHANGING OUR SITE PLAN UP BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CHANGE OUR SITE PLAN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GO TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND THE MATH JUST DID NOT WORK.

AND WE TRIED. WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS COME BACK AND ASK FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING.

BUT IT'S THE MATH DOES NOT WORK FOR THIS TYPE PRODUCT PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW.

SO RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN.

RIGHT. INSTEAD OF THE 261, 176 WON'T WORK.

NO, SIR. WELL, SAME PRODUCT THAT YOU BRING IN.

BEFORE I RAN, I RAN THOSE NUMBERS.

IT WAS 76.

I RAN THOSE NUMBERS AS WELL.

YEAH. YES, SIR. THAT'S JUST A VERY SMALL APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT.

AND YOU TYPICALLY YOU KIND OF HIT A THRESHOLD WHERE YOU GET UP TO ABOUT 240 TO 60.

THAT'S WHEN THESE TYPE DEVELOPMENTS, THE MATH STARTS TO WORK, ESPECIALLY WITH TODAY'S COST, BECAUSE WE DO THESE ALL THE TIME, PROBABLY BUILT 15,000 OF THESE.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE AROUND THAT NUMBER AND REALLY YOU NEED TO BE AROUND THAT TO 50 TO 60 JUST TO HAVE PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT MAINTENANCE STAFF KEEP THE GROUNDS UP.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ENOUGH INCOME COMING IN TO SUPPORT THOSE SALARIED EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE EVERY DAY BECAUSE THE THE LEVEL OF TENANT THAT YOU HAVE HERE, THEY EXPECT CERTAIN AMENITIES. SO WHEN YOU HAVE RESORT POOLS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS AND GOLF, PUTTING GREENS AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT THEY REQUIRE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR FOR AN APARTMENT, WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THEM AS WELL.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIVE THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT'S A 380 UNIT APARTMENT WHERE THEY'VE GOT THE SAME RENTAL RATE AND THEY HAD BETTER SERVICES AND AND HIGHER END PERSONNEL MANAGING THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S ONE REASON YOU GOT TO HIT A CERTAIN THRESHOLD.

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY THESE APARTMENTS OPERATE.

SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, ACCORDING TO THE TIMELINE THAT YOU HEARD OF FOR LANING MALABAR ROAD, WHAT WOULD YOUR TIMELINE BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT? IT WOULD BE A TWO YEAR BUILD BEFORE WE FINISHED, AND WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN START THE DEVELOPMENT PROBABLY FOR AT LEAST, OH GOSH, PROBABLY A YEAR FROM NOW.

SO WE'RE THREE YEARS FROM NOW PROBABLY BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE UNITS COMING ON LINE ROUGHLY.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE INTO 2026 OR 25.

YEAH, 26, 25.

SO THE ECONOMY COULD BE UP BACK THEN OR IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE HOPING HAPPENS IS IF WE CAN GET STARTED WITH TODAY'S RATES AND POTENTIALLY INTEREST RATES COULD COME START COMING DOWN.

BUT WITH INTEREST RATES GOING UP RIGHT NOW, INVESTORS ARE PULLING BACK BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF APARTMENTS THEY'VE INVESTED IN ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY CURRENTLY.

AND SO THEY INVEST IN THESE APARTMENTS EXPECTING WHEN THEY FINISH CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO A PERMANENT FINANCING.

AND THEY WERE PROBABLY PROJECTING A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INTEREST RATE.

AND NOW IT'S LIKE OVER SIX.

SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE A CASH CALL.

SO THEY'RE HOLDING ALL THEIR MONEY BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO START PUTTING MONEY TO CLOSE INTO THESE DEALS BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT INVESTORS THAT HAVE THAT HAVE MONEY.

THEY'RE EXPECTING TO GET THEIR MONEY OUT OF THE PROJECT.

AND IT'S TURNING INTO A MAJOR ISSUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY REALLY IS.

I GUESS I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THE 261.

AND THOSE QUESTIONS WERE DIRECTLY BECAUSE MISS GILBERT WAS ONE OF YOUR ADAMANT ADVERSARIES TO THE PROJECT.

AND WHEN SHE CAME AND HER HUSBAND CAME BEFORE US TO SAY, HEY, THIS, THIS, THIS HELPS MY MY SITUATION, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

RIGHT. IF THERE'S ANOTHER NUMBER, THE 261 IS IS DEFINITELY A HARD TIME.