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ALL RIGHT. IT IS 6:00.

WE CALL OUR REGULAR PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION MEETING.

IN ORDER TO ORDER.

MISS LAFLEUR. CHAIRMAN FELIX HERE.

VICE CHAIR. MILLER.

MR. BACCUS HERE.

MR. HAYES HERE.

MISS PARK, WHO IS ACTUALLY ABSENT TONIGHT.

MR. EDWARDS, MISS SHERMAN HERE.

THANK YOU, MISS LAFLEUR.

SO OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NO PUBLIC, SO WE'LL SKIP RIGHT OVER THAT.

LET'S ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES.

REGULAR MEETING, 20 YOU KNOW,, MARCH 30TH OF 2022.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTION OR ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE MINUTES? THAT'S OKAY. WELL, GOING THROUGH THE MINUTES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE GREAT EVENT THAT WE HAD FOR 4TH OF JULY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT OUT TOWARDS THE CHAIRMAN WHEN YOU, AS THE CHAIRMAN, BROUGHT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE, ALLOWING US TO HAVE THAT EVENT FOR THE 4TH OF JULY, I HEARD IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.

ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I WAS AROUND THAT WERE COMMENTING ABOUT THAT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO WHEN IT IS TIME, JUST TO LET ME KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO ENTERTAIN SOMETHING NEW.

4TH OF JULY, WE WILL GET TO THAT.

RIGHT NOW WE JUST ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.

IF THERE'S ANY CORRECTION, OR I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION.

ARE WE REVIEWING BOTH MEETINGS? THE REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 30TH AND SPECIAL MEETING AS WELL.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO OVER BOTH TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.

RIGHT. THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATE MOTIONS.

SHOULD BE OKAY. YES.

LET'S LOOK AT THE MARCH 30TH.

IF EVERYBODY AGREE.

TO MY RIGHT HERE.

SO. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MARCH 30TH MEETING.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S CALL IT ALL ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

SPECIAL MEETING OF APRIL 4TH, 2022.

CALL. THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE APRIL WAS IN IN ACCORDANCE TO THE DONATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO SAMARITAN'S PURSE.

CORRECT. I HAVE NO OBJECTION ON THAT ONE.

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TO CARRY THE APRIL MEETING.

TO ADOPT THE MINUTES.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

SO, MR. HE'S, IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE.

SO WE THE IDEALLY WE WE YOU BROUGHT FORWARD A FEW IDEAS THAT WE SHOULD THAT WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER AND DISCUSS A FEW.

THE LAST TIME.

AND THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU ACTUALLY BEFORE.

I WILL ASK MISS SHERMAN AS WELL TO TO TO YOU KNOW ACTUALLY BRIEF US AS TO THE LAST LAST DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I ACTUALLY HAVE FRED POPPY IN THE AUDIENCE ARE OUR ONE GUEST.

HE IS OUR RECREATION DIRECTOR, AND I'VE ASKED HIM TO COME BECAUSE HE AND I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS, DONE SOME MORE BRAINSTORMING SINCE OUR LAST DRC MEETING, AND TALKED ABOUT SOME DIFFERENT STRATEGIES WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT FOR THE FUTURE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING COMING INTO THE FOUNDATION.

HE'LL ALSO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON HOW THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT WENT AS WELL.

SO IF YOU WOULD ALLOW, I'D BRING FRED UP AND HAVE HIM KIND OF INTRODUCE AND SHARE SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU. SO AS FAR AS THE 4TH OF JULY.

THE REVENUES WERE, I THINK, $940.50.

I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS FROM THE VIP PARKING.

AND AND SUZANNE ASKED ME TO, I GUESS, DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP AT AN EARLIER MEETING, I THINK IT WAS IN APRIL. SO I DID REVIEW THE MINUTES AND EVERYTHING.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE.

I KNOW IN THE PAST THE PROCEEDS CAME FROM THE MAYOR'S BALL.

AND SO IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IN LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT'S PUT FORWARD AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COMES OUT OF THAT A LARGER EVENT LIKE THE MAYOR'S BALL, ACTUALLY FROM A MANPOWER PERSPECTIVE ON MY END IS NOT ANY MORE THAN, THAN THE WHAT WE DID 4TH OF JULY.

IT'S VERY. AND THE DIFFERENCE BEING IN A LARGER EVENT YOU'RE LOOKING AT LARGER SUMS OF MONEY.

SO I DID LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

I THINK THEY'RE GOOD IDEAS, BUT THEY'RE NOT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAKING HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS VERSUS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IF BY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.

SO NOT TO SAY THAT THAT THOSE ITEMS AREN'T GOOD.

IT'S JUST I THINK IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT MAKING AN IMPACT, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK LARGER.

AND ONE OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WE DID A NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY, AND BASICALLY THAT WAS RUN THROUGH THE NONPROFIT.

WE COULD LOOK AT SOMETHING ALONG THAT ORDER MULTICULTURAL EVENT IS SOMETHING WE'RE DOING.

THE ONLY THING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE WE WOULD BE ON A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME BECAUSE THAT'S IN JANUARY.

SO I THINK REALISTICALLY, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME WHERE WE WOULD ANNOUNCE THAT THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE DRC.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE.

YOU KNOW, FURTHER IN THE YEAR.

BUT THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION ON MY PART.

I THINK THE I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES REQUIRED AND WHAT AND WHAT YOUR OUTCOME IS.

AND SO I THINK, I THINK IF WE LOOK AT A LARGER EVENT WHERE WE TARGET SPECIFICALLY FOR DISASTER RELIEF, AND THAT MAY OPEN THE DOOR TO MORE MORE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND STUFF WHERE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WOULD MAY BE MORE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT THAN THAN LOOKING AT JUST THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE BRICKS AND EVERYTHING, THAT WOULD BE JUST MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY BUYING THOSE. AND I CAN TELL YOU JUST FROM WHEN WE DO THE BANNER PROGRAM, I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE DEALING LIKE 50 TO 70 PEOPLE.

SO, SO I, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE KIND OF NUMBERS THAT'S REALLY GOING TO GIVE YOU SIGNIFICANT FUNDING

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AND THEN THE EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT INTO A PROGRAM LIKE THAT IS REALLY FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.

THE THE BRICKS.

YEAH. AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DESIGNATED PLACE.

IF YOU WERE TO DO A WALKWAY, YOU'D REALLY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE BRICKS UP FRONT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU DID AN AREA LIKE THIS, I MEAN, HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF THAT WOULD THAT BE? YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BUY THEM WHERE YOU HAVE THEM SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND THEN YOU HAVE.

THEN YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ISSUE OF MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? SO DURING MY TENURE WITH THE COUNTY, I DID A LOT OF WORK WITH THE ZOO, AND THEY PUT ONE IN.

THEY PUT AN AREA IN THERE AND EVERYTHING, AND YEARS LATER THEY TOOK IT OUT BECAUSE IT BECAME A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE FOR THEM.

SO IT STARTED OUT BEING SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY GOOD THAT THEY LIKED, ENDED UP BEING A BIG HEADACHE FOR THEM, AND THEY ENDED UP HAVING TO TAKE IT OUT BECAUSE THE THE AMOUNT OF LABOR AND EVERYTHING TO MAINTAIN IT REALLY OUTDID WHAT THE VALUE WAS INITIALLY.

FOR. I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS HOW DID THE PUBLIC RECEIVE THAT THE PARKING, THE THE PARKING, THE VALET PARKING SERVICE. I DIDN'T REALLY GET A WHOLE LOT OF INPUT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

SO, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAD WE HAD THE SPACE AND EVERYTHING AND YOU KNOW, IT, I MEAN, IT.

WE WE OBVIOUSLY HAD ENOUGH PEOPLE INTERESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE FILLED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SPACES.

BUT I JUST AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO IS TO REALLY DO SOME SIGNIFICANT STUFF.

I, I THINK NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT AGAIN, BUT I THINK WE CAN WE CAN CHANNEL THAT SAME EFFORT INTO SOMETHING MUCH LARGER AND, OR EVEN EVEN LOOK AT ONE OF THE LARGE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE AND MAYBE SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO RESTRUCTURE IT TO KIND OF CAPTURE SOME FUNDING THAT WAY.

YES. ONE OTHER QUESTION.

ONE OF THE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, I SERVE OBVIOUSLY AS A CHAIR OF THIS, OF THIS COMMITTEE, AND I ALSO I'M A MEMBER OF THE OF THE, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION AS WELL.

AND SOME OF THE CONCERN AND QUESTION THAT COMES UP WITH MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, THEY OF COURSE ASK A LOT OF QUESTION AND OF THEIR OWN CONCERN.

PART OF THE REASON I ASKED THAT HOW WAS IT RECEIVED IS THAT WAS A COUPLE OF MEMBERS THAT THAT WERE WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO CHARGE PEOPLE TO PARK, LIKE, WELL, IT'S AN OPTION.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

WE OFFER THE VIP SPACE ONLY IF THEY WANT TO.

I MEAN, DID YOU. I WAS LOOKING FOR ANY YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WAS NOT WASN'T ANY OF I.

I DIDN'T NOTICE ANY.

OKAY. I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW AND WE DID PRESENT IT AS AN OPTION.

YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE DIDN'T GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SAY, OH, LOOK WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE CHARGING FOR PARKING.

YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THAT.

I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT'S A DETRACTOR, RIGHT? I CAN ADD TO THAT. I, I'M AWARE OF ONLY ONE COMMENT ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR IT WAS AN EMAIL.

BUT ONCE WE EXPLAIN TO THE PERSON THAT THERE WAS PLENTY OF OTHER FREE PARKING, IT BECAME A NON-ISSUE.

I'M ONLY. I ONLY HEARD OF ONE.

YEAH, THE THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I WOULD, I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS OF IS, IS I WOULD BE CAREFUL OF TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH EXPANSION.

BECAUSE IF WE START GETTING INTO THE PARKING THAT IS ACTUALLY THERE AT EASTERN FLORIDA, THAT MAY BE IT MAY BE A VIOLATION OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.

SO BUT I THINK THAT THE AREA THAT WE HAVE I MEAN WE ARE WE ACTUALLY SET UP A CROSS FROM THEIR STAGING AREA FOR EMPLOYEES AND OTHER AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STUFF.

ANYWAY, SO, SO WE SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOME DESIGNATED PARKING ANYWAY.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

IN MY OPINION, I THINK IT WAS A GREAT EFFORT.

THAT'S A NIGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS, OF THIS YOU KNOW, THE DRC OR THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION IT REALLY HASN'T ANY REAL EFFORT TO OR ANY ATTEMPT TO RAISE MONEY EXCEPT FOR THE MAYOR'S BALL.

AND WE KNOW NOW, OVER IN THE PAST, THIS PAST MAYOR'S BALL, THE NEXT 2 OR 3 ARE ALREADY EARMARKED FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

SO WE ARE NOT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

MR. SHERMAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

MY UNDERSTANDING THE NEXT 2 OR 3 ALREADY DEDICATED TO TO A SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, PROJECT, WHICH LEAVES US REALLY

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THIS BOARD THE COMMITTEE, EVERY POSSIBLE EFFORT TO RAISE SOME FUNDING, IT FALLS ON US TO FIGURE IT OUT.

SO ANY AND EVERY EFFORT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT BECAUSE YEAH, GUIDING US IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU SEE, IN YOUR OPINION, THAT CAN REALLY GIVE US MORE, MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

BUT 900 AND IN TERMS OF MANPOWER, DID THAT ENGAGE YOUR STAFF FOR THE FOURTH? FOR THE 4TH OF JULY? JULY? JUST JUST JUST JUST TO SET UP PART.

I MEAN, THERE WASN'T I MEAN, THE DAY OF WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEONE DIRECTING AND CHECKING PASSES ANYWAY.

SO SO THAT THAT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF IMPACT.

I THINK IF THE REASON THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME NEGATIVITY IS, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF DID IT LIKE REAL CLOSE TO THE EVENT.

SO I THINK NOW THAT WE'VE DONE IT, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT AGAIN, I THINK IT'LL BE A LITTLE EASIER BECAUSE WE'LL BE PLANNING THAT RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

SO BUT I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY THAT'S THE ONLY NEGATIVITY THAT I THINK CAME OUT OF THAT.

AND ONE LAST QUESTION.

AND EVERYBODY WILL GET A CHANCE TO TALK.

YOU MENTIONED THE MAYOR'S BALL.

WHAT WERE YOU REFERRING TO IN TERMS OF WHAT OPPORTUNITY YOU SEE IN THAT? WELL, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK THE MONEY WE RAISE WILL COME TO THIS.

NO, I MY REFERENCE TO THE MAYOR'S BALL IS THAT THAT WAS YOUR FUNDING SOURCE BEFORE, AND IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT FUNDING SOURCE.

SO TO TRY TO SUPPLANT THAT WITH ALL THESE SMALLER EVENTS IS GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WHOLE LOT OF THESE SMALLER EVENTS TO COME ANYWHERE NEAR THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK FOR FOR THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT WOULD GO INTO ALL OF THAT ONE LARGE EVENT DEDICATED PROBABLY TO ME MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE BECAUSE WE WE CAN ADVERTISE IT THAT WAY.

AND IT'LL BE KNOWN BY THE PUBLIC THAT THAT THE EVENT IS BEING HELD FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

SO I THINK AND, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE AND WE HAVE SOME HISTORY WHERE WE, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THIS THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION BEFORE TO HOLD LARGE EVENTS.

SO THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE FOR THE FOR THE EFFORT PUT INTO IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE REALLY A LARGER SUM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INPUT.

I WAS TALKING TO ACTUALLY WALKING AROUND, TALKING TO THE PEOPLE AT THAT EVENT, AND I SAID, WHAT WOULD COULD WE DO NEXT YEAR TO MAKE IT BETTER? AND THEY WERE LIKE, CAN YOU PUT STANDS HERE? CAN YOU PUT A FOOD TRUCK HERE? CAN YOU PUT AN AREA FOR US TO HAVE MORE DRINKS, SOME PLACES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO WANDER AND THEN CHARGE $5 OR $10 MORE TO WHERE EVERYTHING'S RIGHT AT THE CONVENIENCE OF THE VIP AREA, TOGETHER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.

AND I WAS LIKE, THAT WAS THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I'LL TRY TO ENTERTAIN THAT.

BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTERTAIN AS A POSSIBILITY.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF THAT AS TO, AS A POSSIBILITY FOR I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, ON THE AS LONG AS WE KNOW THOSE THINGS ON THE FRONT END, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STUFF, YOU KNOW HOW IT FITS INTO THE OVERALL SITE PLAN AND AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE AT.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO DOVETAIL ON THAT.

IF A FOOD TRUCK COMES IN.

SO THE MONEY THAT THEY WOULD CHARGE, I GUESS THE FEE THAT THEY WOULD CHARGE FOR THAT PARTICULAR VENDOR TO BE AT THAT EVENT WITH THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT FEE COME TO DISASTER RELIEF, OR IS THAT A CITY FEE? THAT'S THAT'S A GENERAL FUND ITEM.

SO THOSE ANY ANY OF THOSE FUNDS THAT COME IN HELP HELP OFFSET THE COST TO US TO TO RUN THAT RUN THE EVENT.

SO NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN I MEAN, I, I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY THAT, THAT THOSE FUNDS I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY.

WHEN IT'S GENERAL FUND, IF IT'S GENERAL FUND DRIVEN.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SPECIFICALLY DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S I THINK IT'S THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I, I WOULD DEFER TO RODNEY ON THAT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.

SO YOU'RE KIND OF COMMINGLING FUNDS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS GENERAL FUNDS, AND THEN YOU'RE SHIFTING THEM OVER TO THE FOUNDATION.

THERE'S. NO INCENTIVE TO ADVERTISE OR MARKET THE FOOD TRUCKS TO COME TO THE EVENT, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT.

IT WOULDN'T HELP US IN OUR EFFORTS FOR FUNDRAISING.

CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH.

SO SO ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE WHERE WHERE THERE'S FOOD TRUCKS, NOT JUST FOOD TRUCKS, BUT VENDORS AND WHATEVER THOSE PROCEEDS COME IN AND WE USE THAT TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES TO, TO PUT THE EVENT ON.

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AND THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THESE THINGS FOR FREE.

IS THAT IS THAT WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO GENERATE REVENUES TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS.

SO BUT IF WE IF WE DID A SPECIFIC EVENT AND WE ADVERTISED THAT THE PROCEEDS WOULD GO TO THIS.

THEN, THEN THEN BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'VE DECLARED THAT ON, ON THE FRONT END, I THINK IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

SO YOU MENTIONED THAT MULTICULTURAL EVENT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WELL, I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WHEN WE DID THE NEW YEAR'S EVE THING, THAT WAS THAT WAS A BIG, BIG SUCCESS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE AFTER WE DID IT THAT FIRST YEAR, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAD HAD FUNDED SOME OF THAT AND THE AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT.

BUT SINCE THAT'S HAPPENED, I HAVE PEOPLE COME UP TO ME ALL THE TIME SAY, WHEN ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S BIG.

AND BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE WE CAN CONTROL THE GATE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE THAT ONE, THE ONE BIG EVENT DURING THE YEAR WHERE WE'D ACTUALLY BE CHARGING PEOPLE TO COME IN AND YOU'D WANT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A HEADLINE OR SOME SOMEBODY, SOMEONE.

SO WE'D HAVE TO FRONT LOAD IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THAT AFTER, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE'RE DONE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING, WHATEVER THE PROCEEDS ARE LEFT WOULD, WOULD COME TO THE DRC.

SO I, I JUST SEE THAT AS, AS, AS A, AS A BIG POSSIBILITY AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU THINK BIG AND YOU DO IT BIG, YOU GOT A CHANCE TO TO GET RIGHT BACK TO WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH THE PROCEEDS FROM THE MAYOR'S BALL.

I CERTAINLY LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF, OF OF A BIG EVENT.

YEAH. THE MULTICULTURAL I WAS JUST GOING TO QUICKLY MENTION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE, WE KNOW OF TWO MULTICULTURAL EVENT THAT ALREADY PRETTY MUCH EXISTING IN EXISTENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY WOULD COME ALONGSIDE AND CO-SPONSOR.

SO I'D SAY I WOULD PROBABLY FOCUS.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE NEW YEAR'S EVE.

BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, GO ELSEWHERE OR IF WE CAN KEEP THEM LOCAL AND STAY HERE WITHIN, WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I WOULD REALLY, REALLY LOVE TO SEE THAT PLACE OR US ACTUALLY LOOKING INTO THAT.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF WE CAN SHOW THAT WE'RE DRAWING FROM OUTSIDE, THE COMMUNITY WOULD MAKE US ELIGIBLE FOR THE FOR A TDC CULTURAL GRANT AS WELL.

THAT THAT I PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY.

YEAH. SO, SO THERE'S THERE'S ALL THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS THERE.

BUT TO ME, I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT LEVEL YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT AS, AS AN ORGANIZATION, BUT I WOULD THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS RATHER THAN SMALLER, THOSE SMALLER NUMBERS.

YEAH, CERTAINLY. WE ARE CURRENTLY LIMITED DUE TO THE FACT THAT WHAT WHAT WE HISTORICALLY WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR COFFER, WE THERE'S SO MUCH WE CAN DO.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO.

I THINK HAVING MORE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO MORE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, DONATION AND STUFF.

SO OUR HISTORY IS IS DONATING A THOUSAND BUCKS HERE AND THERE.

SO I THINK HAVING MORE WILL BE ABLE TO DO MORE.

BECAUSE WE JUST NEVER KNOW ALL AREA CLOSER TO HOME CAN BE IMPACTED AT ANY GIVEN, GIVEN TIME.

SO HAVING THE ABILITY TO, TO DONATE MORE, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

YEAH. AND I THINK THE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HAVING SPONSORS BE A PART OF THAT IS BENEFICIAL AS WELL.

RIGHT. SO YOU COULD YOU CAN MAKE IT A GATED EVENT WHERE PEOPLE COME YOU, YOU CAN CHARGE THE VARIOUS VENDORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE.

YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET SPONSORSHIPS.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S PROBABLY A LARGER OPPORTUNITY TO TO EXPAND THE ABILITY TO GENERATE REVENUES OUT OF CURIOSITY, IS IT TRUE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR.

BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SAY, RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE ON A SHORT, SHORT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M I'M USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO LATER IN THE YEAR. IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU GUYS, IF YOU KNOW WHAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF IDEAS DO YOU HAVE AS FAR AS TYPE OF AN EVENT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT? I'M I'M BRINGING IT OUT BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.

AWESOME. I HAVE ONE THAT MAY NOT BE TOO OUT OF SCOPE, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF TIME WOULD BE A VALENTINE'S DAY.

SO FOR, YOU KNOW, COUPLES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY MEET AT MAYBE THE HILTON RIALTO OR SOMETHING THAT UNFORTUNATELY, PALM BAY DOESN'T HAVE A MAJOR HOTEL THAT

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WE COULD UTILIZE, MAYBE LIKE THE HILTON RIALTO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL VALENTINE'S DAY COUPLES EVENT OR SOMETHING TO THAT IN THAT REGARD.

ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY PAY FOR A PARTICULAR DINNER.

THE PROCEEDS EXCEED THE ACTUAL COST OF THE EVENT.

THEN COME TO D'ARCY LIKE THAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR FRED OR.

MUCH? JUST I'M SORRY.

COMMENTS. MOST OF THE I'M LISTENING TO HIM IS THE IDEAS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TOWARDS NOT JUST THE, THE REST OF THIS YEAR, BUT NEXT YEAR TOO, RIGHT? WELL, I THINK WHAT I SEE IS YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING.

SO SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I THINK A LARGE EVENT MAKES SENSE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT THE FIRST TIME, WE MAKE IT AN ANNUAL EVENT, AND THEN IT KIND OF TAKES THE PRESSURE OFF A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE HAVE THAT AS AN ANNUAL EVENT AND WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING EVERY YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO GET EASIER AND EASIER, RIGHT? THE FIRST YEAR IS ALWAYS THE TOUGHEST ONE.

LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION.

IS IT I KNOW ABOUT THE MAYOR'S BALL.

IS IT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF EVENTS, OR IS IT JUST THE MAYOR'S BALL? JULY THE 4TH.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EVENTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO THIS, BECAUSE 4TH OF JULY, I WOULDN'T REALLY WANT TO MESS WITH THAT. I MEAN, THAT TENDS TO BE A FAMILY FRIENDLY TYPE OF EVENT.

SO KEEPING THAT FREE TO THE COMMUNITY, I THINK IS, IS IS THE WAY TO GO.

YOU KNOW, THE THE OTHER BIG ONES.

THE PARADE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU.

I MEAN, UNLESS WE DID SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, UP, UP THE INDIVIDUAL CHARGES FOR EACH OF THE PARTICIPANTS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR ON THAT, BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE PRICING OURSELVES OUT WHERE YOU LOSE PARTICIPATION.

LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION.

DOES ALL THE EVENTS HAVE TO BE IN PALM BAY OR MELBOURNE AREA? WELL, I MEAN, I REPRESENT THE CITY, SO I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT TOO KEEN ABOUT PUTTING OUR RESOURCES OUT SOMEPLACE ELSE.

WE'VE WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF PLENTY OF GOOD VENUES HERE TO, TO DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

IN FACT, WHEN WE DID THE NEW YEAR'S EVE THING, WE WE DID IT RIGHT OUTSIDE ON ON THE ROAD HERE.

WE CLOSED OFF THE ROAD AND HAD A BIG HAD A BIG BLOCK PARTY AND IT ALLOWED US TO USE THE PARKING HERE AT CITY HALL AND AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

IT WAS 20 1616.

FAMILIARIZE ME RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT EVENT.

HOW DID HOW DID YOU CHARGE? HOW DID YOU MAKE MONEY ON THAT EVENT? JUST BECAUSE IT WAS A TICKETED EVENT.

PEOPLE. PEOPLE PAID FOR IT.

PAID FOR ADMISSION.

WELL, WE HAD WE HAD IT ALL.

WE HAD IT ALL BLOCKED IN.

SO. SO, YEAH.

SO WE HAD SO WE DID PRESALES AND YOU COULD AND YOU COULD BUY TICKETS AT THE EVENT.

AND THEN WE HAD, WE HAD FOOD AND BEVERAGE VENDORS THAT, THAT PAID US TO BE THERE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE THAT'S HOW WE GENERATED THE REVENUES.

WHAT WAS THE STAGE WHERE.

YOU'RE RIGHT. NO, NO. GO AHEAD.

THE STAGE WHERE I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE THE WHOLE SETUP.

IT WAS IT WAS RIGHT ON THE ROAD.

SO WE BLOCKED OFF FROM FROM MINTON, I MEAN MALABAR, ALL THE WAY TO JUPITER.

CLOSE THAT WHOLE ROAD OFF.

AND WE HAD WE HAD IT OUT ON THE STREET AND EVERYTHING WAS AWESOME.

AND I MEAN, WE HAD I MEAN, IT WAS A HUGE IT WAS A HUGE TURNOUT REALLY.

YEAH. WE PROBABLY I'M THINKING 15,000 SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

WE PUT THE STAGE OUT ON THE ROAD TOO.

YES. YEAH. SO THE STAGE WAS THERE, THE BAND BANDS.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WE.

IT WAS MOLLY HATCHET.

YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. MOLLY HATCHET.

YEAH. SO IT WAS, IT WAS A IT WAS A BIG EVENT.

IT WAS. AND IT WAS ALL, IT WAS ALL DONE WITH CITY RESOURCES.

SO WE HAD WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAD SOME SEED MONEY FOR PROMOTIONS.

AND SO, SO WE USED THAT TO, TO, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THE, THE SOUND AND THE AND THE ARTIST.

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SO WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE AS A SEED MONEY WAS THE SEED MONEY COMING FROM.

RIGHT? WHERE'S THE WHERE'S THE SEED MONEY COME FROM TO PAY FOR.

WELL, I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO THAT.

IT'S YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE WHETHER WE WE HAVE ENOUGH LEADING TIME, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GO OUT AND GET ENOUGH SPONSORSHIP MONEY TO TO HELP WITH SOME OF THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

THERE THERE'S THERE'D BE SOME, SOME OTHER FINANCIAL THINGS WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, BUT THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES, I THINK.

SURE. WELL, IN THAT, IN THAT CASE, IT WAS IT WAS BASICALLY THE CITY THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT FRONT LOADED THE MONEY.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY AFTER THE THEY THEY GOT THE MONEY BACK AND THEN THE PROCEEDS THAT WERE LEFT AT THE END WENT INTO THE FOUNDATION. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR FRED? I WANT TO ROLL A SEGUE INTO THIS ONE.

AS FAR AS RAISING BIG MONEY, GETTING TDC INVOLVED, GETTING EDC INVOLVED, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO HOLD A FIRST ANNUAL SANTA RUN AND ELF RUN IN THIS AREA AND GET HANDOUTS FOR EVERYBODY AND THE PRICING THAT ARE ON HERE AND EVERYTHING IS ON THE SECOND PAGE AS FAR AS ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST PER PERSON.

AND YEAH, AND SO THE PASSING IT DOWN THAT WAY.

BUT THIS RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM PEOPLE I WORK WITH, WITH HEALTH FIRST AND ALSO WITH SOME OF THE AREA TO ACTUALLY HAVE THIS AREA AS A POSSIBILITY FOR A5K RUN.

AND FROM WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'M FINDING OUT IS THE GROUP SCENARIOS FOR THE FIVE K RUN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER FLORIDA.

THEY GOT PEOPLE LIKE TOUGH MUDDER COMPETITION THAT YOU'VE HAD HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

THEY GET THE EDC, THE TDC REVENUE.

AND THE THING IS, WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT T SHIRTS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S WEARING A SANTA COSTUME OR AN ELF COSTUME.

AND THE THING IS, IS JUST THE COORDINATION AND THE POSSIBILITY AND THE THE ADDITIONAL CHARGES THAT YOU WOULD SEE THERE AS A GROUP FUND ON THE SECOND PAGE.

AND SO IT'S RANDOMLY BROKEN DOWN TO EARLIER IN DECEMBER, AND THEN IT BREAKS DOWN FOR THE ACTUAL EVENT TO HAPPEN DECEMBER 17TH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

I KNOW WE GOT A TURKEY TROT OR SOME KIND OF TURKEY TROT, AND THAT'S IN NOVEMBER RIGHT NEXT MONTH.

AND SO THE THING IS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ENTERTAINED BY THEM.

AND SO I WAS I WAS LIKE, MAYBE I COULD POSSIBLY ENTERTAIN THAT WITH THIS AS WELL.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH LEAD TIME TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

YEAH. I MEAN, I MEAN TO GET THE IMPACT THE THE DIFFICULTY IS IF YOU'RE TRYING IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A REGIONAL THING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

RUNNERS ARE VERY FICKLE.

THEY THEY MAKE THEIR SCHEDULE UP WAY, WAY IN ADVANCE.

I MEAN, THEY AND IF IT'S NOT PART OF THE SPACE COAST RUNNERS, YOU LOSE A LOT, LOSE A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'D RATHER RUN SOMEPLACE WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR POINTS FOR PARTICIPATING IN ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS.

BUT THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS ON THURSDAY NIGHTS AGENDA WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE CITY MANAGER BE ALLOWED TO SIGN A CONTRACT TO BRING THE LIGHT FEST TO REGIONAL PARK.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS AS AN OPENER WAS TO HAVE A5K RUN, WALK, FAMILY TYPE EVENT.

BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING, WE WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT BEING A FREE NIGHT WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN JUST COME OUT AND ENJOY THE THING, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL IT OFF FOR THIS YEAR, BUT OUR HOPE IS THAT WE WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS WITH IT.

THIS WILL BE A ONE YEAR DEAL, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING THIS A LONG TERM DEAL.

THE PROMOTER IS WILLING TO TO HELP WITH SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS TO PUT THE ELECTRIC IN.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY A TEN YEAR CONTRACT.

SO WE THERE'S THERE'S A POSSIBILITY HE DOES A LOT OF THINGS FOR CHARITIES.

SO MAYBE WE COULD SAY HEY LET'S HAVE THIS RUN AS PART OF IT.

AND THE PROCEEDS WOULD COME.

SO I I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN PULL IT OFF THIS QUICK.

LET ME ASK A QUICK QUESTION.

I THINK THAT IS WORTH LOOKING AT.

WHERE DID THE IDEA COME FROM? DID DID SOMEONE WHO ORGANIZES THESE REACH OUT TO YOU OR.

I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE PROVIDED THE HEALTH FIRST AND THE ADVENT HEALTH RUNS THAT ARE COMING UP.

OKAY. THE REINDEER RUN.

YEAH. REINDEER RUN AND DEER RUN.

YES. AND SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS THAT WERE ENTERTAINING BY THE OTHER PEOPLE.

MY DAUGHTER IS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THE RUNNING TOGETHER WITH MY FAMILY.

AND SO THE THING IS, IT'S LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ENTERTAINED FOR THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S NEARBY.

WE GOT OUR LOCAL COMMITMENT.

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WE ACTUALLY HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP FOR THESE EVENTS.

AND IF YOU GO ON TO EVERBRIGHT OR YOU GO ON TO THE OTHER SITES TO WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY ADVERTISED, IT IS AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF IT'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP FOR THESE THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT SO THIS GROUP IS ALREADY INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PALM BAY IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

OR THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TO POSSIBLY BRING UP TO YOU ALL TO BRING AS AN OPTION TO RAISE MONEY BECAUSE THE GROUP AMOUNTS THAT ARE YOU'RE SEEING THERE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS POSSIBLY THERE FOR FUNDS AND WITH THE WITH YOUR AMAZING HELP AND WHAT YOU GUYS DO AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT AND COVERING WHAT YOU GUYS DO THAT THAT ADDS TO IT.

SO. I MEAN WE'VE ACTUALLY POSITIONED OURSELVES WHERE WHERE WE CAN START DOING MORE.

FIVE KS AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD SAVED SOME MONEY, AND SO WE PURCHASED A LOT OF THINGS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS PURCHASE A TIMING SYSTEM FOR RACES, BECAUSE ONE OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO RUN IT TO, TO GENERATE REVENUES RUNNING ZONE IS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN AND YOU HAVE TO RENT THEIR EQUIPMENT.

AND SO THAT GETS THAT GETS PRETTY COSTLY.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO NOW OURS IS NOT NEAR AS ELABORATE AS THEIRS, BUT IT'S IT'S SUFFICIENT.

IT'S A GOOD TIMING SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING.

SO, SO WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOING MORE FIVE KS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE RUN OF THE YEAR.

SO SO THAT'S THE POSSIBILITY TO AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S UP TO THE DECISION MAKERS.

I'M JUST I'M JUST OFFERING OUT, SOME IDEAS THAT THAT WE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT ABOUT THE OUTSIDE COUNCILS AND WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS TURKEY CREEK RUN THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP NOVEMBER 19TH, AND THE SPONSORS THAT THEY HAVE ON THE TOP AND DIFFERENT EVENTS FROM ALL OF THOSE THINGS, YOU'RE RIGHT.

AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

YEAH, THOSE THOSE PROCEEDS ACTUALLY GO BACK TO THE SOCIETY, WHICH IS A VOLUNTEER GROUP THAT THAT HELPS WITH THE SANCTUARY, AND THEY DO A NUMBER OF FUNDRAISERS DURING THE YEAR.

WE DO LIKE AN ART SHOW, THIS FIVE K AND SOME OF THE THINGS AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY THEY DONATE BACK TO THE SANCTUARY.

AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WAS WHEN WE HAD ALL THE DAMAGE FROM THE HURRICANES, THEY DONATED MONEY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BUY LUMBER.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, WE HAD CAREERSOURCE FREE LABOR HERE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO REBUILD PROBABLY HALF $1 MILLION WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A MATTER OF OF US ALL COMING TOGETHER AND MAKING SOME DECISIONS.

AND THEN AND THEN IT'S EASY FOR ME THAT I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WE JUST GIVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF AND WE ORGANIZE IT.

WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING OVER THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE STAFFORD ACT.

AND I'M SURE YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE STAFFORD ACT FOR DISASTER RELIEF AND HURRICANE ASSISTANCE AND THE MILLIONS AND THOUSANDS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THROUGH THESE GRANTS FOR CERTAIN AREAS.

AND SO I WENT THROUGH, THROUGH FEMA AND THE STAFFORD ACT AS A POSSIBILITY OF DOING THIS FOR THERE AS ADDING THAT ONTO OUR POSSIBLE REVENUE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FOR THIS AREA UNDER THROUGH FEMA AND THROUGH THE STAFFORD ACT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION, ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AS FAR AS THE FLOODING AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE COVERED, YOU JUST AMAZE ME AND YOU AMAZE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE AROUND US.

AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THAT.

YEAH, THAT WAS ONE MORE ADDED SEGUE I WANTED TO PUT IN THERE AS FAR AS THE STAFFORD ACT, AS FAR AS GAINING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND, BECAUSE THIS IS AROUND JUST BECAUSE POST HURRICANE, THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE GRANTS ARE THERE FOR.

A SEPARATE GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO CITIES.

SO YES.

SO I WANTED TO ENTERTAIN THAT POSSIBILITY TOO BECAUSE IT'S A THOUSAND TO FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND.

I BELIEVE THIS EXPIRES OCTOBER OF 23.

I'M ERIC.

ERIC IS ALL NEW.

TO WHAT EXTENT? MAYBE. I KNOW HE'S PROBABLY GOT HIS WORK CUT OUT HOME, AND WE KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THAT AND LOOK AT THROUGH IT AND SEE SOME.

SOME POSSIBILITY.

AND WE CERTAINLY CAN'T.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE.

SO BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF THE VALUE OF THE DAMAGE IN THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE FROM HURRICANE IAN, THE THE FEMA DECLARATION FOR OUR AREA INCLUDED WHAT'S CALLED INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS FUNDED THROUGH THE STAFFORD ACT.

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INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE JUST MEANS THAT THERE'S A PROCESS NOW RUN THROUGH THE BREVARD COUNTY WHERE FOLKS CAN APPLY FOR FEMA ASSISTANCE IF THEY HAVE DAMAGE RELATED TO THE STORM.

SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THE CITY DIRECTLY HANDLES.

THAT GOES THROUGH BREVARD COUNTY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY, INCLUDING PALM BAY.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN STORM EVENTS, IF WE HAD HAD SOME EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT, THE SAME THING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED THAT FUNDING AND THE APPLICATION PROCESS FLOWS THROUGH LIKE BREVARD COUNTY HANDLES IT.

OFTENTIMES, FEMA ACTUALLY SENDS DOWN REPRESENTATIVES AND STAFFERS TO HELP PEOPLE GET ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION.

SO LIKE OUR ROLE RIGHT NOW IN THAT IS TO SHARE INFORMATION WE GET FROM BREVARD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ABOUT THOSE PROGRAMS. AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION OR CONCERN FOR COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH.

JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WHAT YOU NEED US TO DO.

WE'RE HERE. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH. IF I COULD ADD ONE MORE POSSIBILITY.

IS THIS A5K RUN? A POSSIBILITY FOR NEXT YEAR, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

YEAH I THINK WELL, WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY ONCE COUNCIL GIVES US DIRECTION ON THURSDAY ABOUT THE LIGHT FEST.

WE'LL ACTUALLY DISCUSS IT THIS YEAR WITH THE VENDOR AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING COULD COME TOGETHER.

NO PROMISES.

RIGHT. BUT DEFINITELY IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'LL LOOK AT FOR NEXT YEAR IF EVEN IF WE COULDN'T DO IT THIS YEAR.

YEAH. LET ME TELL YOU THAT THE THE CONTRACT WITH HIM.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE NOTATIONS IN THERE ABOUT US BEING ABLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS ON CERTAIN NIGHTS.

AND HE'S HE'S GOING TO BE VERY AMENABLE TO THAT BECAUSE THE BETTER PARTNERSHIP HE CREATES WITH US, THE BETTER CHANCE OF HIM HAVING THAT LONG TERM COMMITMENT.

RIGHT. AND SO AND HE'S ALL ABOUT CHARITIES LIKE THE VOLUNTEER GROUPS THAT HE'S USING.

THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL ORGANIZATIONS THAT HE DONATES BACK TO FOR THEIR VOLUNTEER TIME.

SO HE'S ALREADY WORKING WITH VARIOUS NONPROFITS AND GROUPS LIKE THAT ALREADY.

SO I THINK IT'S WIDE OPEN.

THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK ALSO HE RUNS THE RENAISSANCE FAIR, AND HE'S ALREADY HINTED TO ME THAT THAT IF WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP CITY AND HIM FOR THIS EVENT, HE WOULD CONSIDER BRINGING THAT HERE.

AND THAT'S THREE WEEKENDS DRAWS ABOUT 50 60,000 PEOPLE.

SO HE, HE GETS HE GETS TDC MONEY EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE HAVE THE FOOTPRINT FOR IT AT REGIONAL PARK.

AND HE AND I DIDN'T EVEN SOLICIT THAT.

HE HE BROUGHT THAT OUT HIMSELF THAT THAT HE HE'S VERY, VERY INTERESTED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

WICKHAM PARK IS NOT AS AMENABLE TO HAVING THOSE EVENTS THERE AS MUCH ANYMORE.

SO I LOOK AT IT AS THEIR LOSS IS OUR GAIN, SO BUT BUT I HE'S A HE'S A VERY EASY TO DEAL WITH AND I'M SURE AS WE, WE CAN NEGOTIATE ANY ITEMS IN THERE, AND I THINK HE'D BE VERY AMENABLE TO DOING ANYTHING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

HOW SOON ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR OR.

AS FAR AS THE LIGHT SHOW.

I KNOW IT'S STARTING THIS YEAR.

YEAH. IT'S. SO IT'LL IT'LL IT'LL START RIGHT, RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING AND RUN THROUGH NEW YEAR.

SO IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EVENT IN THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE HE HAS OVER 300 SPECIFIC UNITS.

AND SO I THINK THE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING NOW.

SO TO ME, IT'S A WIN WIN.

WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPEND MONEY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPEND LABOR.

HE DOES EVERYTHING AND WE GET A CHECK AT THE END.

IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.

YEAH, I THINK 15. WE GET 15%.

WOULD HE WOULD HE CONSIDER ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 1% THAT WOULD GO ATTRIBUTE DIRECTLY TO TO THE MUNICIPAL FUND.

NO, I MEAN, HE'S A HE'S HE'S VERY SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND GREAT CHARITY SUPPORTER.

SAY. HEY JUAN.

I ALREADY I ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE UNITED WAY.

TRYING TO TRYING TO WORK WORK INTO THAT.

I AGAIN, I THINK ON THURSDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND I MEAN I AND HE'LL BE THERE.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO POSE THAT THAT QUESTION TO HIM HE'LL HE'LL BE HERE AT THE MEETING.

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NOW IN TERMS OF FUTURE EVENT THAT HE SHOULD HE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT.

I MEAN KEEP IT HERE IN WHICH WE HOPE THEY WILL.

HAVE YOU FORESEE ANY ISSUE IN TERMS OF BACKING UP, CONSIDERING THE ONE LANE, ONE ONE WAY AND ONE WAY OUT? WELL, WE DO KNOW THAT PART OF PART OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THURSDAY, THERE IS A TRAFFIC PLAN ALREADY IN PLACE.

ACTUALLY, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO USE THE SOCCER PARKING AREA AS A STAGING AREA, AND WE CAN PARK OVER 400 CARS THERE.

SO IF PEOPLE COME EARLY, HE CAN STAGE THEM IN THERE, KEEP THEM OFF THE ROAD.

PLUS, HE'S PAYING FOR TWO OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS EVERY NIGHT TO BE OUT ON MALABAR ROAD FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN ASK MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

AND, AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I THINK AS I, AS I TOLD SUZANNE, I THINK WHEN, WHEN WE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME OUT AND COMPLAIN ABOUT US EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT, I THINK WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT OR REMEMBERING IS WHEN WE HAD THE REVERSE PARADE WHERE WE HAD 1400 CARS.

WELL, THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THIS IS GOING TO BE EVERY NIGHT FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS.

SO IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT.

IT'S ONLY ONE NIGHT AND EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GET IN THERE.

BUT EVEN SO, I MEAN, WE WE'RE LOOKING BETWEEN THE STAGED PARKING AND THE LOOP COMING IN PROBABLY CLOSE TO 600 CARS BEFORE, BEFORE IT EVER IMPACTS THE MALABAR ROAD.

TO ADD TO THAT, WE ARE WE PREVIOUSLY HAD A COST ESTIMATE FOR A SECOND EXIT.

IT HAS TO BE A BRIDGE BECAUSE IT GOES OVER A CANAL.

SO WE'RE LOOKING WE'VE LOOKED AT PREFABRICATED BRIDGES.

PUBLIC WORKS IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT GETTING UPDATED COST ESTIMATES.

BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD ALIGN THE BACK EXITS FROM THE PARK.

WITH SAINT JOHNS PRESERVE DEVELOPMENT THAT ALREADY HAS A DRIVEWAY.

SO THAT WOULD THEN BECOME A FOUR WAY LIGHTED INTERSECTION.

SO WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THE DESIGNS AND THE PLANS FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, FRED.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S YOU KNOW, CONSIDER NEW BUSINESS.

PART OF OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION JUST TO BRING YOU GUYS UP TO DATE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO TO TO BRING THAT UP.

SO IF YOU GUYS RECALL OUR LAST SPECIAL MEETING WHERE WE CONSIDERED THE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION THAT'S GOING ON IN EASTERN EUROPE WITH RUSSIA INVADED UKRAINE.

WHAT'S GOING ON? AND WE DISCUSSED THAT, AND WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO DONATE TO SAMARITAN'S PURSE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, OVER THERE SERVING, PROVIDING MEDICAL SERVICES AND MID-SHIFT HOSPITAL AND SO ON.

AND SO THIS AND I WILL, I WILL DEFER TO MISS SHERMAN TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

SO THE DISASTER, THE MUNICIPAL, BOARD DID NOT APPROVE IT.

AND MISS SHERMAN CAN BRING US UP AND SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS, SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT THAT CAME ABOUT DURING THE THE DURING THE AS WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH THE BOARD, THEY, THEY FELT.

THAT WAS, WAS THREE, TWO, TWO.

AND I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE CLERK TO SEE WHAT THE RECORD WAS FOR THAT ONE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER OFFHAND.

IT'S 3444141.

MAYBE IT WAS FOUR ONE.

YEAH. WE HAD SO MANY THAT THAT NIGHT.

ON THE. SO PART OF IT JUST IF I CAN SHERMAN WILL FILL US IN SOME OF THE ARGUMENT WOULD GO AHEAD.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, PART OF THE PROBLEM I THINK WAS I KNOW WAS THAT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE, THE, THE BOARD AND I APOLOGIZE TO YOU ALL.

IT TOOK US WAY TOO LONG TO BRING THE ITEM BACK TO COUNCIL OR EXCUSE ME, BACK TO THE FOUNDATION BOARD.

SO YOU ALL MADE THIS DECISION BACK IN APRIL.

THE STEPS WE NEEDED TO TAKE WAS SIMPLY TO VET THE SAMARITAN'S PURSE ORGANIZATION AND THEN TO ESSENTIALLY BRING AN ITEM TO THE FOUNDATION, SCHEDULE A MEETING GET THEIR APPROVAL, AND THEN THE THOUSAND DOLLARS COULD HAVE GONE, YOU KNOW, TO THE WITH THEIR APPROVAL TO THE ORGANIZATION, JUST DUE TO REALLY FAILURES ON THE PART OF STAFF TO KEEP IT MOVING.

SO I'VE, I'VE LIKE I SAID, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

IT DIDN'T COME UNTIL OCTOBER THE 2ND THAT COUNCIL MEETING WAS RIGHT AFTER THE HURRICANE HIT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SO I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE WAS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS AND CONCERN AND SENSITIVITY TO WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE PEOPLE HERE IN OUR OWN BACKYARD.

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I MEAN, THAT WAS CERTAINLY PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

AND SO THERE WAS THERE WAS DEFINITELY A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE ARE WE GOING TO IS THE DRC GOING TO RECOMMEND ANY FUNDING TOWARD HURRICANE IAN RELIEF EFFORTS.

SAMARITAN'S PURSE, AS WE HEARD, IS IS ACTUALLY WORKING DOWN LIKE FORT MYERS AND AREAS LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE ITEM.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHY THIS IS HERE, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO COVER? NO, I THINK THAT'S FOR THE MOST PART.

WELL, THAT'S THE ARGUMENT AND MY ARGUMENT.

OBVIOUSLY, I WAS ON THE OPPOSITE BOAT.

AND BASED ON THE.

YEAH, THAT'S THE THE ARGUMENT THAT KEEPS POPPING UP.

PART OF IT AS WELL IS, YES, THE TIME, WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND ALSO FIGURE THERE'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF, OF AID GOING TO UKRAINE.

WHY SHOULD WE HAVE ALL THOUSAND DOLLARS? MY THE ARGUMENT TO ME IS WE'RE NOT SENDING IT TO THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE.

IT'S GOING TO THE EFFORT OF SAMARITAN'S PURSE ARE DOING THERE.

AND THEY'RE IT'S STILL THERE WORKING.

SO IT'S GOING TO THE CAUSE SERVING THERE.

BUT IT'S TO THEM AND WE KNOW THAT'S HOW THEY OPERATE.

THEY DON'T GET GOVERNMENT FUNDING.

THEY GET THROUGH DONATION.

AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IS THAT WE CAN DO BOTH.

WE GOT ENOUGH TO DO BOTH.

SHOULD WE DECIDE? AND WE OBVIOUSLY, THIS BOARD HAS TO MEET.

THE COMMITTEE HAS TO MEET FIRST TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.

SO WE COULDN'T I COULDN'T CALL THE MEETING PRIOR IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

NORMALLY THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT COURSE OF ACTION.

BUT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME SOME ACCOUNT AS TO PREVIOUS DECISION THIS COMMITTEE HAD MADE.

BEFORE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD.

SO IT WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING AND, YOU KNOW, IT WENT THAT WAY, BUT NEVERTHELESS THE RESULT WAS THE RESULT.

SO GO AHEAD.

I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING, I GUESS, BECAUSE THIS BRINGS UP, I GUESS TO ME, IT BRINGS UP A LITTLE BIT OF A SORE SPOT.

WE HAD VOTED I GUESS IT WAS SOMETIME LAST YEAR.

WE HAD VOTED AS THIS COMMITTEE HAD VOTED ON PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO HAITI.

WHO? THEY'RE ON THE GOOD GRACES OF PEOPLE'S FUNDING.

IT'S NOT LIKE PUERTO RICO, WHICH IS A COMMONWEALTH TO THE UNITED STATES.

AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET FUNDING, YOU KNOW, FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE UNITED STATES FOR THAT.

HAITI IS NOT IN IN THAT CATEGORY.

THERE'S JUST YOU HELP THEM OUT.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WANTED TO.

THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OR THEY'RE NOT.

ANOTHER COUNTRY IS NOT OBLIGATED TO HELP THEM IN ANY WAY.

BUT WE HAD DECIDED TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FOR THEM.

AND THEN THAT WAS ALSO CUT DOWN BY BOMBAY, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION.

AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SORE SPOT BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE WE TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS, TO SAY, HEY, LIKE, WE THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE FUNDING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER BOARD THAT WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE MAKE THE DECISION HERE.

YOU KNOW, MISTER FELIX GOES TO THE COUNCIL AND THEY SHOOT IT DOWN SUMMARILY.

IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT EXACTLY WHAT EXACTLY? YEAH, IT'S IT'S INTERESTING.

YOU DISHEARTENING, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THE LEAST.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE, WE TAKE ALL OF, YOU KNOW, OF OUR TIME.

YOU GUYS ARE NOT HERE. YOUR STAFF.

I'M SURE YOU COULD BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE AT HOME, RIGHT? WITH WITH THE WIFE OR THE HOMEOWNER.

YOU COULD BE WITH YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER DOING SOMETHING ELSE.

WE COME HERE, WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS, AND IT'S LIKE WE KIND OF LIKE WASTING OUR TIME BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GET SHOT.

SHOT, YOU KNOW, FULL OF HOLES BY SOMEONE THAT DECIDED THAT, HEY, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU GUYS DECIDE.

WE WE SET A PRECEDENT THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING OR VERY LITTLE OR NOTHING AT ALL.

IT'S JUST AGAIN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES ME WONDER, LIKE, OKAY, HEY, GUYS, ARE WE JUST, YOU KNOW, RUNNING REALLY FAST IN THE SAME SPOT, JUST PUTTING A HOLE IN THE CARPET OR ARE WE MAKING PROGRESS? AND I JUST I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.

IT DOESN'T. DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT OUT LOUD BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE SAYING THAT.

BECAUSE I PROBABLY DIDN'T GO AS AS, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH DETAIL, BUT I MADE IT KNOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE I EXPRESS THAT VERY SENTIMENT ON THE ON THE DICE AFTER THAT DECISION WAS MADE.

YEAH. IT WAS I FELT THE SAME WAY.

AND I DID EXPRESS THAT CLEARLY AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHY WHY ARE WE ASKING THIS COMMITTEE?

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SO IT MIGHT AS WELL JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE DECISIONS OURSELVES IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BEHAVE MOVING FORWARD.

BECAUSE TWO INSTANCES, IF YOU DECIDE TO LET THEM DECIDE.

THAT IS. CORRECT.

SO SO I WOULD ASK RODNEY, MAYBE THE STRUCTURAL, THE WAY THIS WHOLE IDEA WAS MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION WAS THE BASIS TO HAVE IT'S KIND OF A SAY.

IS IT THE SAME CONCEPT AS WE'RE BEING SEEN AS A AS A ADVISORY BOARD, IN ESSENCE.

CORRECT. WHERE THE MUNICIPAL BOARD MAKE THE DECISION.

CORRECT. OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT MOST OF OUR BOARDS ARE.

SO, LIKE, EVEN PNC, IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT THEY GO THROUGH, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION ON WHETHER THEY ACCEPT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF AND PNC. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW ALL THE ALL THE BOARDS WORK AS ADVISORY BOARDS.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ARGUE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOME OF THE DECISIONS ARE NOT DRIVEN.

IT'S NOT DRIVEN BY.

SO LET'S SAY P AND Z, RIGHT.

AND ANY OF THE OTHER BOARD FOR THAT MATTER, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY DRIVEN BY MANAGING CITY AFFAIRS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO P AND Z HAVE A GREATER IMPACT THAT THAT'S THOSE ARE IMPACTED.

BUT THIS IS TO ME I DON'T KNOW I, I'M JUST I WELL I AND I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE FOUNDER RIGHT FROM THE FROM INCEPTION HOW THEY VISION IT.

BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF, OF OUR CITIZENS THAT DONATE TO THIS FUND.

IT'S NOT DRIVEN BY ANY REGULATION PER SE, OR GOVERNMENT MONEY OR FEDERAL FUNDS OR STATE OR FUNDING.

SO I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE.

WE NEED TWO BOARDS.

YOU KNOW, THE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION TO MAKE THE FINAL SAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT DRIVEN BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

IT'S JUST THE GOODNESS OF GOD.

AS LONG AS WE MAKE GOOD USE OF IT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO JUST SEND IT TO X, Y, Z ORGANIZATIONS.

ALL THESE GUARDRAILS ARE GOOD.

THE VETTING PROCESS AND SO ON.

BUT IT COULD FEEL AS THIS BOARD IS NOT, YOU KNOW, WORTH LESS OR DOESN'T WORTHWHILE ALL THE TIME TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VALUED BY THE BOARD.

WHAT IS THE BASIS YOU JUST FEELINGS AND VIEWS AND YOU KNOW SO IT'S NOT ENTICING ANY TAX.

THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THAT.

I THINK THAT WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY THE INITIAL INCEPTION WAS UNDER, I THINK, CAPOTE EITHER RIGHT BEFORE HIM AND I THINK THAT CAPOTE.

SO I THINK THAT WHAT IT WAS MEANT LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE, A SUBCOMMITTEE UNDERNEATH THE FOUNDATION.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO OUT AND RESEARCH AND, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH GO OUT AND DO WHATEVER YOU GUYS FEEL THAT YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO.

YOU'VE DEFINED WHAT A DISASTER IS AND ALL THAT.

AND THEN YOU PRETTY MUCH SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO GIVE.

THEY JUST GIVE THE APPROVAL TO.

YEAH, WE AGREE TO GIVE THE FUNDS OUT OF THE FOUNDATION.

SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT'S A NECESSARY BOARD OR YOU'RE NOT RESPECTED.

I THINK THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO TAKE THEIR MONEY OUT OF THE FOUNDATION AND PAY IT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THEY GET TO DECIDE.

OKAY. YEAH. WE'LL AGREE.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MAKING THAT CLEAR.

SO IT'S LIKE THE THE FOUNDATION HAS ALL THE FUNDS AND THE MONEY.

YOU'RE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THEM THAT DEALS WITH DISASTER RELIEF.

SO THE FOUNDATION DOES VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU'RE JUST ONE COMMITTEE THAT'S SAYING, OKAY, WE WANT TO GIVE $1,000 TO HAITI.

THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.

AND THEN THEY'RE SAYING, OKAY, WE AGREE TO GIVE $1,000 OF THE FOUNDATION'S MONEY TO HAITI OR NO, WE ONLY WANT TO GIVE 500.

CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT? ONE OF THE KEY THINGS FOR THE FOR THAT EVENT, FOR THE SAMARITAN'S PURSE WAS NOT ONLY A DONATION FROM US, IT WAS ALSO TO PUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN THE SIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT SAME NETWORK OF EVERYBODY ELSE.

THAT WAS A PART OF THAT.

IT'S LIKE US BEING ADVERTISED AWAY FROM HERE.

THAT WAS THE KEY THING. WHY? I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT AS WELL AT THAT TIME.

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I MOVED TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA, NOT KNOWING I'D NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT WAS. PALM BAY WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

ME COMING HERE FROM FROM NEW YORK CITY.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I ACTUALLY FLEW INTO TAMPA.

I WAS LOOKING AT HOUSES IN TAMPA, AND THE BUILD OVER THERE SAID, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED PALM BAY? WHAT'S THAT? WHERE IS THAT? I DIDN'T KNOW.

I DROVE AND I GOT LOST DRIVING OVER HERE, TOO.

I TOOK I-4 AND I WAS HEADING UP TO DAYTONA, AND THE GUY SAID, NO, YOU GOT YOU GOT TO GET OFF.

YOU GOT TO GET. YOU GOT TO COME MORE EAST.

YOU'RE GOING. YOU'RE GOING NORTH.

BUT ANYWAY, AGAIN.

BUT HOW DO YOU GET HOW DO YOU GET POPULAR? YOU GET POPULAR BY DOING THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT PUTS YOUR NAME OR ASSOCIATES YOUR NAME WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING THINGS, EVEN ON A LARGER LEVEL.

BUT JUST HEARING YOUR NAME INCLUDED WITH THEM SAYS WHO? WHO ARE THEY? IF FOR NOTHING ELSE, THAT THOUSAND DOLLARS OR WHATEVER WE WERE GIVING WOULD HAVE AT LEAST HAD US MENTIONED THE BIG CORPORATIONS.

THEY DIDN'T PROBABLY CONSIDER THAT.

THEY JUST SAID, HEY, WE THINK SO.

AT THE SAME TIME, ON LINKEDIN, WHEN I SEE THESE GREAT BALLS AND ALL ALL YOU GUYS AS CELEBRITIES UP THERE AND SHOWING YOUR FACES WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHO ARE THEY? I'M ALLOWED TO SAY, I KNOW THESE PEOPLE.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, PALM BAY DOES THAT.

SO YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER KEY THING.

JUST THE ADVERTISEMENT.

EVEN ON LINKEDIN NETWORKING, IT JUST SAYS IT ALL.

THE, THE AS WE AS WE DISCUSSED THAT OF COURSE ALSO THE CONSIDERATION THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, THE SAME DONATION THAT'S ALREADY ATTRIBUTED OR APPROPRIATED TO FOR SAMARITAN'S PURSE BEING THEM OVER ON THE WEST THE WEST COAST SERVING.

WOULD WE DONATE THAT TO THEM? I DECLINED.

I WAS NOT WILLING TO DO SO.

WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT IS NOT THAT I WAS, YOU KNOW, A DECLINE NOT TO GIVE IT, BUT IT WAS JUST ALREADY APPROPRIATED FOR THIS PARTICULAR REGION.

I WANTED TO BE KEPT IN MY RECOMMENDATION.

WE CAN DO BOTH.

IT'S LIKE IT'S.

NO ONE SEEMS TO EVEN CONSIDER THAT.

BUT THE THE THE THE THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE IT OBVIOUSLY WAS A41 VOTE.

SO WHAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT AS FAR AS THE NEW BUSINESS IS TO DO THE COMMITTEE WANT TO CONSIDER DONATE TO THE SAME ORGANIZATION THAT IS CURRENTLY SERVING ON.

THE ON THE WEST COAST.

IT'S. CERTAINLY OKAY WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW, IDEALLY IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE AND MY COMMENT IS A SUFFERING HUMAN BEING OR CHARLOTTE. SUFFERING INDIVIDUAL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THEY ARE OR RATHER IN AFRICA OR IN HAITI, YOU NAME IT.

THEY NEED HELP. THEY NEED HELP.

THEY NEED HELP REGARDLESS.

SO I, I'M IN SUPPORT OF US MAKE, YOU KNOW, DONATE THAT CAUSE AS WELL WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THE SAME ORGANIZATION.

THEY OBVIOUSLY BEEN VETTED TO PROVING TO BE A BETTER LOCATION.

WHAT IS THE WISH OF THE COMMITTEE.

I SECOND THE SUPPORT, HOPING THAT IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS WELL TO TALK NUMBERS.

AS WELL. MR. LEFEBVRE, WOULD YOU REMIND THE COMMITTEE OUR CURRENT BALANCE, PLEASE? YES. THE CURRENT BALANCE IS $10,633.34.

AND FOR THE RECORD, I THINK THAT'S THAT WAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE MADE FOR OUR 4TH OF JULY WITH AN AMAZING EVENT LIKE THAT.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MAKING THAT A POSSIBILITY.

AMOUNT. THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT

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$1,000. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH 2000.

FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT TO ME, AGAIN, MY ARGUMENT IS, YOU KNOW, A SUFFERING INDIVIDUAL ON THE WEST COAST, OR RATHER IN KIEV OR PORT CHARLOTTE. IT'S A SUFFERING.

IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE THAT, THAT SO THAT SINCE THAT WAS SHUT DOWN, SHUT DOWN, IT MADE ME GUN SHY, YOU KNOW LET'S DO LET'S JUST DOUBLE IT AS A SHOOTING.

YOU SHOOTING YOU FULL OF HOLES.

WHEN YOU MAKE A SUGGESTION TO THESE GUYS, ANYTHING HIGHER THAN 1500 WAS THE PRECEDENT BEFORE.

I'M AFRAID TO GO ANY HIGHER THAN THAT.

JUST. JUST SO WE DON'T LOSE AGAIN.

NO, I YOU KNOW.

NO, I'D SAY 2000 BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STRONG ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE FOLKS OVER ON THE WEST COAST CAN DEFINITELY USE THE HELP.

LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH A HIGHER AMOUNT GOING AWAY FROM THE NORM.

SOME STRONG ARGUMENT WAS MADE.

THESE NEED THE HELP.

LET'S HELP THEM. THEY'RE NOT GETTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AGAIN, THAT'S AN ARGUMENT THAT DIDN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE BECAUSE THE WE ARE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, THE MOST RICHEST COUNTRY.

SO THE THEME I CAME THROUGH FOR THE WEST COAST, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP US FROM DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO IF THE BOARD IS OKAY WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND, AND CERTAINLY.

JIMMY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DONATING $1,000.

PREVIOUS DONATION.

THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION.

SO THE WAY I'M VIEWING IT, WE WERE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE 1000.

SO I THINK WE CAN JUST DOUBLE IT.

JUST. BECAUSE I HEARD YOU GUYS WAS I DON'T WANT TO SAY. LET'S JUST NOT.

IT WAS 1000.

EVEN THOUGH THIS IS SOUTHWEST SIDE PROBABLY SEEM MORE REALISTIC TO THEM.

LOOKING AT IT, AND I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT IT FROM A FINANCIAL POINT OF VIEW, NOT JUST SIMPLY NOT JUST SIMPLY KEEPING IT HOME.

I WANT TO I WANT TO KEEP IT $1,000.

AND I AGREE WITH BOTH AVENUES.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FAIR TO OFFER TO GO WITH $1,500 AS A NICE, EVEN BETWEEN THE TWO OR EVEN 1500 TO 2000.

ENTERTAINING THAT TO THE BOARD AND GIVING THEM THE DECISION OF 1500 TO $2000.

I'M. OKAY WITH THAT.

YES, I APPROVE.

MOTION. MOTION TO SECONDED.

MAKE THE MOTION.

HOW DO I MAKE THE MOTION FOR 1500 TO 1000? SECOND. SECOND.

I'M IN THE MOTION. COULD YOU ALSO INCLUDE WHERE YOU WANT THE DONATION TO GO? I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FROM 1500 TO 1000 OR $2,000.

AND THAT WOULD EITHER GO TO SAMARITAN'S PURSE OR TO THE OR FOR THE SOUTHWEST AREAS THAT WERE AFFECTED. FORT MYERS SOUTHWARD.

THANK YOU.

SO. MUCH FOR SHARING THIS.

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DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT AS FAR AS WHAT KEITH JUST MENTIONED? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NEED TO CALL THE QUESTION ON SOME OF HIS RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOU GOT ENOUGH DIRECTION TO.

YES, SIR. THAT'S DIRECTION.

STAFF. STAFF WILL REVIEW THAT WITH FRED.

I KNOW SUZANNE WILL PROBABLY REVIEW THAT WITH FRED AND GO FROM THERE.

SO AS FAR AS THE QUESTION AT HAND WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

AND ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.

UNANIMOUS DECISION.

OTHER BUSINESS IS OUR NEXT MEETING.

IT'S FOR A YEAR.

AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, EVERY QUARTER WE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD TO CHANGE THE DATES.

AND THE NEXT ONE IS DECEMBER 19TH.

6 P.M..

CHAMBER WORK FOR EVERYONE.

YES. YES.

ANY OTHER AGENDA? ANY OTHER THING YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD? ANY AND EVERYTHING.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT GOING BACK TO THE THE THE FUNDRAISER AND I UNDERSTOOD.

HE SAID HE WANTS TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN PALM BAY.

I AGREE WITH IT.

ALSO. YOU WANT TO KEEP IT HOME SO THAT SO THAT THERE'S CLARITY.

I GUESS I'M KIND OF LIKE THROWING IT OUT THERE.

I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH DISCUSSED IT ONCE BEFORE.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED.

I WOULD LIKE TO JUST THROW OUT AN IDEA DOING A MAYOR AND POLICEMAN BALL, BUT ON THE GOLF COURSE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE GOLF COURSE HERE NO LONGER EXISTS, BUT I KNOW THAT IT WILL BRING A STRONG REVENUE.

I TRULY BELIEVE YOU HAVE MAJOR.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOLF PLAYERS HERE.

AND NOT JUST DOING IT ONE TIME OF YEAR, NOT NOT JUST ONE TIME, BUT ALLOWING IT TO GROW AND DEVELOP.

IT WOULD BRING SOME MAJOR CONTRIBUTION FOR US.

PALM BAY IS CONCERNED AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IT WOULD GET AN INVESTOR TO COME BACK TO PALM BAY AS WELL.

WE STILL HAVE THAT ONE GOLF COURSE THAT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN, STILL AVAILABLE FOR ANY KIND OF EVENT LIKE THAT.

I'M GOING TO THE OTHER EVENTS THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THE POSSIBLE SANTA RUN, THE VALENTINE'S DAY EVENT, THE FUNDRAISER.

I, I'M LOOKING AT IT AS AS A POSSIBILITY.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

BUT AT LEAST IT'S A START TO CONTINUE TO GROW EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

I JUST I SEE A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE BECAUSE OF THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT I HEAR ARE COMING FROM THESE OTHER PLACES AND THE SPONSORS AND STUFF THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH, LIKE HE WAS SAYING. FRED WAS SAYING THROUGH THE EDC AND THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND ALL THOSE POSSIBILITIES THAT THAT WE WOULD START SEEING THAT REVENUE COMING IN TO THIS. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

AND SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS, SUCH AS THE 4TH OF JULY, GROWING MORE SO BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO, NOT ONLY ON THE VIP SIDE, BUT ALSO PREFERRED PARKING SIDE WITH THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMING IN THERE.

I KNOW WE TOUCHED ON THE BRIC FACTOR AS I COULD SEE THAT, BUT THAT'S STILL.

I WOULD ASK THE COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE BRICS AS ANOTHER FUNDRAISER POSSIBILITY, TOGETHER WITH THE MEMORIALS THAT WILL SOON BE COMING FROM ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP.

SO ONE OF THE, I BELIEVE, THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WITH THE BRICS IDEA, I BELIEVE WITH THAT

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NEW SACRIFICE PARK, FUTURE SACRIFICE PARK IT SOUND OTHER IT IS OTHER ENTITIES OR OTHER PARTIES THAT ARE GOT THEIR OWN IDEAS AS WELL IN TERMS OF ALONG THE SAME LINE OF, OF OF BRICS AND, OR, YOU KNOW, OR MARBLES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ENOUGH.

AND AS I SAID, I THINK, AS FRED PUT IT, IT'S REALLY LET'S GO FOR A COUPLE OF BIG EVENTS.

MOST ORGANIZATIONS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THEY HAVE MAYBE 1 OR 2 KEY KEY EVENT WHERE THEY PUT ALL THEIR RESOURCES, THEIR ENERGY, THEIR FOCUS ON.

AND THAT TURNED OUT TO BE SIGNIFICANT.

I THINK BETWEEN THE I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE YOU KNOW VALENTINE'S DAY AND ALSO THE NEW YEAR'S NEW YEAR'S EVE, HOPEFULLY ONCE WE, ONCE WE GET A GOLF COURSE, THAT'S STILL THE HOPE AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORS COME BACK. AND CERTAINLY THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA AS WELL, YOU KNOW BUT I THINK FOCUSING ON THOSE TWO AND HOPEFULLY WITH CONTINUING WITH THE VIP PARKING POTENTIAL.

I WAS JUST THINKING ON THE SAME TOPIC.

WE HAVE OTHER BIG EVENT, OUTDOOR EVENT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE THE 4TH OF JULY.

IT DOESN'T. THE VIP PARKING IDEA DOES NOT LIMIT LIMIT IT TO THE WE CAN PROBABLY BRING THAT TO SOME OF OUR MULTICULTURAL. WE'VE GOT TWO MULTICULTURAL.

SO BRING IT TO OTHER EVENT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, QUITE HONESTLY BECAUSE THOSE SOME OF THESE BIG EVENTS YOU HAVE BLOCKS YOU KNOW, TO TO GET WE DON'T GET IT ON TIME.

WE DON'T GET THERE ON TIME.

AND YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH OUT.

SO I WOULD DIRECT STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST JOT THAT DOWN TO LET'S LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN CREATE A SELECT IDEA, THE PROPERTIES OR US.

SO LET'S CREATE A SELECT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MAJOR, MAJOR EVENTS I CAN THINK OF THE MULTICULTURAL IN JANUARY AND AND POTENTIALLY OTHERS THAT DRAW A BIG CROWD.

SO I THINK THOSE BETWEEN THOSE, THOSE AS LONG AS WE START PLANNING AHEAD AND OBVIOUSLY STAFF WILL WE SHOULD DO.

WELL, I ADD ONE MORE POSSIBILITY.

WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE POLICE.

YEAH, THE THE POLICE AND THE WELL, THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE LIKE GOLF TOURNAMENT, WHICH WOULD HAPPEN IN THE SUMMERTIME.

THAT'S I GUESS, UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A GOLF COURSE, BUT NOW I PLAY ELSEWHERE.

IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM PALM BAY.

WHAT I'M GETTING AT WITH THAT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIFE FESTIVAL, IF WE HAVE A POSSIBILITY OF ACTUALLY INCORPORATING ALL OF THEM TOGETHER IN AN AREA WHERE THE LIGHT FESTIVAL CAN ACTUALLY BE OUR BACKDROP FOR A BALL OR AN EVENT.

ALL OF THEM TOGETHER.

TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BALL ON TOP OF THE NEW YEAR'S EVE EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO SINCE YOU HAVE A WEEK LONG EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, INVITE EVERYBODY FOR ONE NIGHT OF A BALL OR ONE NIGHT OF A MEET AND GREET, OR JUST A GET TOGETHER, JUST WHATEVER AS A POSSIBILITY.

JUST LIKE THE MAYOR'S BALL BRINGING ALL THAT MONEY THEY BROUGHT IN.

WHAT WAS IT, 40,000 OR SO.

AND SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS ANOTHER POSSIBILITY AS A BIG EVENT, IF I CAN ENTERTAIN THAT AS ANOTHER OPTION.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT ANOTHER.

OUTDOOR. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHEN YOU SAY BALL, I'M THINKING OF, LIKE, SOMETHING INDOORS WHERE PEOPLE ARE DANCING AND THERE'S MUSIC AND STUFF.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT ARE YOU DEFINING AS A BALL? WELL, IF THE OUTDOOR EVENT CAN BE ACTUALLY SET UP AS AN OUTDOOR POSSIBILITY, SUCH OPEN UP TABLES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE AREA.

JUST PEOPLE MINGLING, PEOPLE GETTING TOGETHER.

HAVE A BAND OR HAVE A MUSIC OR HAVE A DJ OR SOMETHING AVAILABLE TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST RELAX AND JUST BE THEMSELVES.

OKAY, YEAH. AND THAT DOES LEND ITSELF TO THE POSSIBILITY TO ATTACH IT TO THE LIGHT FEST, BECAUSE THE LIGHT FEST VENDOR IS GOING TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS.

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I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER ASPECTS TO IT.

I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO FRED ON THE DETAILS, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST LIKE, I THINK THEY HAVE HAY RIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST GO THROUGH AND SEE THE LIGHTS.

BUT TO FRED'S POINT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SEE IF WE COULD DO IS ADD AN EVENT OR EVEN TWO.

NOW YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT, LIKE, IS THERE A NIGHT WHERE WE COULD HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, MORE FOOD TRUCKS AND TABLES AND CHAIRS AND PEOPLE COULD GATHER AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE A WINTER BALL OR WHATEVER? OR COULD YOU, LIKE YOU SAID, DO LIKE A5K? I THINK THOSE SEEM MORE DOABLE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIMING, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WITH THE EVENT ORGANIZER.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO OBVIOUSLY TALK TO FRED TOMORROW AND HAVE HIM REALLY WORK WITH HIS TEAM.

THIS IS OUR THIS IS FOR OUR RECREATION TEAM, THE BUSIEST TIME OF YEAR FOR THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY EVENTS.

WE HAVE THE PUERTO RICAN PARADE, THE VETERANS PARADE, THE HOLIDAY PARADE, THE TREE LIGHTING.

SO IT'S A LOT OF COORDINATION, BUT I WILL ASK THEM TO SIT DOWN AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK THEY COULD REALISTICALLY DO IN THE SHORT TERM, AND THEN WHAT THEY THINK THEY COULD FOCUS ON FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO, ABOUT EXPANDING THE VIP PARKING TO OTHER EVENTS, IF WE CAN.

SO I'M TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT.

AND THEN WHEN WE MEET AGAIN, WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DO.

IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING IN DECEMBER, WE WILL HAVE ALREADY DONE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE TIME WILL BE BEFORE YOUR NEXT MEETING.

BUT BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY BRING AN UPDATE WITH A PLAN SEE WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.

BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THESE ARE GREAT IDEAS FOR SURE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING? ELSE? ANY REPORT? RODNEY. DOES PALM BAY HAVE, LIKE, A BANQUET HALL OR A GENERAL MEETING PLACE THAT'S INDOORS? SO, YEAH, I WAS THINKING OF WE HAVE TWO COMMUNITY CENTERS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF WHEN YOU SAID BALL.

SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT TED WHITLOCK IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER OUT THERE.

SO I WONDERED IF YOU WERE THINKING OF, LIKE, AN INDOOR BALL DURING THE LIGHT FEST.

SO YOU ENJOY THE LIGHT FEST, BUT THEN YOU CAN ALSO GO INDOORS FOR LIKE A DANCING, MUSIC FOOD TYPE THING.

WHO KNOWS? I MEAN THAT THAT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH TO PULL TOGETHER SHORT TERM.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THE RED LAKE COMMUNITY CENTER, IT'S WAY UNDER UTILIZED IN MY OPINION.

I THINK THAT'S A FACILITY THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR EVENTS AS SUCH.

AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK A BIG GYM AND HUGE, BIG.

BUT WHEN WE WENT TO FIT, IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, PREPPING IT.

IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT LOOK ATTRACTIVE.

YOU DIDN'T IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE IN A GYM, YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW.

SO YEAH, IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF, OF, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT LOOK THE WAY IT IS, BUT IT'S VERY DOABLE.

AND I QUITE HONESTLY THINK THAT AS FAR AS AN INDOOR FACILITY, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY.

WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A KITCHEN COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TYPE.

MAYBE NOT FULLY, BUT.

BUT IN TERMS OF FOOD.

AND YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY START CONSIDERING AND AS THIS PLACE GOING TO BE MORE OF A DESTINATION SPOT OF OUR CITY.

I THINK WE SHOULD NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE UTILIZE IT TO MAKE IT MORE WORK FOR THIS TYPE OF.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE HILTON RIALTO.

NO, NO, IN TERMS OF BECAUSE IDEALLY WE I CONSIDER IT I HAVE A NEW YEAR'S DAY EVENT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.

I'M TAKING IT TO THE RIALTO.

I SEVERAL TIMES I CONSIDERED THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

NOW IT COMES FOR NEW YEAR'S DAY BECAUSE IT'S A HOLIDAY STAFF AND SO ON.

THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT, DOUBT, BUT I THINK FOR THE PURPOSE OF OUR EVENT AND REALLY IT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED. IT'S EASY TO GET GET A CATERING SERVICE.

THEY HAVE THE THE KITCHEN TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND SO ON.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.

YES, SIR. YEAH. SO JUST TO MENTION THAT ADD ONE MORE PLACE POSSIBILITY INSIDE OF EASTERN FLORIDA COLLEGE.

THAT FULL ENTRYWAY.

WHEN YOU WALK IN THERE, YOU'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL WIDE OPEN AREA THERE UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS, THAT WHOLE WALKWAY AREA, THE LOWER PART TO GO IN.

THAT'S ANOTHER POSSIBLE VENUE.

NOW IN IN HISTORICALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW HOW THE INTER GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN WITH EASTERN FLORIDA.

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WELL, AS FAR AS FACILITIES ARE CONCERNED.

YEAH. HISTORICALLY WE'VE WE'VE HAD AN AGREEMENT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WITH THEM TO USE THE CAMPUS, NOT ANY OF THE BUILDING AREAS, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOTS AND THE WIDE OPEN GREEN SPACES LIKE WE DID FOR THE 4TH OF JULY.

THAT'S WHAT OUR AGREEMENT ALLOWS US TO DO.

I KNOW DURING COVID THEY PULLED BACK COMPLETELY AND SO WE WERE RESTRICTED ON WHAT WE COULD DO ANYWAY, AND THEY WOULDN'T LET US COME FOR A LITTLE BIT.

BUT WE'RE BACK ON TRACK WITH THE 4TH OF JULY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM ASKING THEM.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY WANT THINGS LIKE LIABILITY INSURANCE, WHICH WE HAVE AND WOULD PROVIDE, WHETHER THEY'D LET US GO IN A PLACE LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IT'S INTERESTING. AS LONG AS THE WEATHER'S GOOD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OPEN AIR.

EXACTLY. YEAH.

INDOORS WOULD BE BETTER.

THAT'S WHY I LIKE WHITLOCK IS BETTER.

RIGHT. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. ANY ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.