Nov 02, 2022 Planning and Zoning Board

[CALL TO ORDER:]

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GOOD EVENING. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 2ND IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

MR. MARAJ, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? WHY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS FOR ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

NOW. THE ROLL, PLEASE.

YES, MR. BOEREMA.

PRESIDENT. MR. GOOD.

MR. PRESENT.

SWARAJ. PRESENT.

PRESENT. PRESENT.

PRESENT. AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MR. EDWARDS, IS PRESENT.

RODNEY EDWARDS IS PRESIDENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]

I CAN. ALL IN FAVOR? I APPROVE.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD COMPRISED OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.

BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL THEN BE ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT ANY INFORMATION GERMANE TO THE CASE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD.

LAW WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE WILL FIRST HEAR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION AND THEN THOSE OPPOSED TO THE APPLICATION OR ALL PROCEEDINGS.

ALL APPLICANTS AND SPEAKERS FROM THE AUDIENCE MUST SIGN A SPEAKER OATH CARD LOCATED AT THE PODIUM AND AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.

AS A COURTESY, I ASK THAT IF THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO MAY HAVE SIMILAR COMMENTS, YOU INFORMALLY APPOINT A SPOKESMAN TO CLARIFY YOUR VIEWS. AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED.

NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.

I WILL THEN CALL FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND, AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I WILL THEN CALL FOR A VOTE.

DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ARE THEN FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DISPOSITION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN HEARING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.

HEY, COULD WE HAVE THE FIRST CASE?

[OLD/UNFINISHED BUSINESS:]

I WILL BE PRESENTING THE FIRST CASE FOR TONIGHT.

P 52 2020, 2022 I'M SORRY, THE OWNER THE APPLICANT IS KRISTIE BAKER.

A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FROM CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE, SECTION 185.129 MODEL HOMES.

THANK YOU. THE REQUEST IS THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICATION APPLICANT SEEK TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY IN THE MODEL HOME WITH REGARD TO PROVISION OF PARKING AT THE SALE POINT AND SELLING THE MODEL HOME ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED.

THE APPLICATION APPLICANT HAS DRAFTED THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE AND WOULD WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE STAFF TO PRODUCE A VIABLE CODE UPDATE UPDATE THAT ALIGN WITH THE UPDATE OF THE INTENTION OF MODEL HOME IN SECTION A SECTION OF THE LAND CODE DEVELOPMENT.

SPECIFICALLY THE NEW CODE REMOVE THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THE OUTDATED TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS LANDLINE AND FAX MACHINES WHILE EXPANDING THE APPLICABILITY OF MODEL HOMES.

THE NEW CODE ALSO EXPANDED THE SECTION OF ON PARKING AND AND ALSO THIS ALSO THE PLACES IS STANDARD VETTED BY THE STAFF ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF MODEL HOMES TO ENABLE THEIR SUCCESSFUL USE AND FUTURE TRANSITION TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THE STAFF RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF CASE T 52 2022 AND STAFF IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

WHO THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.

RIGHT. BUT IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

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IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? BATON. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST UNDER THE SAME ORDINANCE PREVIOUSLY MODEL HOMES FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THEY HAD THEIR MODEL HOMES OPEN FOR THEM AND THEN PEOPLE COULD COME AND SEE THEM AND THEY HAD MODELS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT REPRESENTED DIFFERENT BUILDERS.

AND THOSE HOMES WERE OPEN FOR ACCESS AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY SELLING THE LOTS AS IF IT WAS A PART OF THEIR BUSINESS OPERATION.

THEY'RE SELLING THEY'RE USING THEIR MODEL HOME TO SELL THE OTHER SITES.

BUT THOSE SITES WERE NOT TAXED UNTIL THEY HAD OCCUPANCY WITHIN THAT HOME.

NOW, AFTER I'M READING THIS ORDINANCE, WE'RE EXPANDING FOR THE DEVELOPERS ANOTHER BENEFIT OF HAVING PARKING SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO CONDUCT BUSINESSES IN ON SITE.

BUT NONE OF THOSE SITES ARE ACTUALLY COLLECT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CONDUCTING BUSINESS ON THEM, ARE NOT COLLECTING ANY TAXES UNTIL YOU HAVE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING. SO IT'S IT'S LIKE WE'RE KIND OF SKIRTING THE BENEFIT THAT COULD BE COMING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD IDEA.

WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF THEY'RE CONDUCTING BUSINESS FROM THIS RESIDENT BECAUSE IT'S AN ACTUAL RESIDENCE, AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL LOCATION, THAT WE SHOULD BE COLLECTING THE BENEFIT THAT COINCIDES WITH THAT.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

THE BUILDERS SEEM TO GET A BREAK HERE AND THERE.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT BREAK COMING INTO THE COFFERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS WAR AGAINST.

OR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

BOARD MEMBERS. HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR EMOTION, PLEASE? OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE T54.

TO 2022.

AND TO ANSWER MR. BANTON'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE IS YES.

THE BUILDER DOES PAY TAX ON IT AS VACANT, UNDEVELOPED LAND.

SECONDLY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.

OPERATE AS A BUSINESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE, ONCE THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, IT'S TAXED AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.

SO. AND INTERESTING QUESTION, HOPEFULLY.

SEEN BY MR. WEINBERG SECOND BY MISS MIRAGE.

ALL IN FAVOR I AND HE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT CASE IS THERE'S A REQUEST TO CONTINUE CP 37 2022 DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE? THE MOTION TO CONTINUE? CP 37 2022 TO THE DECEMBER 7TH PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

IT'S LIKE A. SINCE MR. WEINBERG SICKENED BY MR. BOEREMA. ALL IN FAVOR.

I KNOW. HE OPPOSED.

CASES CONTINUED.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

MAY 22.

IT'S WHERE WE MOST.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A CASE OF 4820 22.

THE OWNERS ARE RICHARD AND MARGARITA MIRANDA.

THE SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF MARKET CIRCLE, NORTHEAST SPECIFICALLY AT 1802 HARDEN LANE.

THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 4.08 ACRES AND THIS IS IN A RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

THE REQUEST IS TO A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CUMULATIVE SIZE OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES TO EXCEED THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURES LIVING AREA BY 2060 SQUARE FEET.

GRANTING RELIEF FROM THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY SECTION ONE 85.1 18 C OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

AND THIS REQUEST COMES ABOUT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A 1750 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY, AND HE ALREADY HAS SOME EXISTING ACCESSORY BUILDINGS THERE.

THE STAFF FINDINGS ARE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MUST DETERMINE BASED ON THE FACTS PRESENTED.

TO WHAT DEGREE, IF ANY, OF MINIMAL RELIEF IS REQUIRED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED AS REQUIRED UNDER SECTION ONE 69.009 OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A FINAL REVIEW.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE.

YOU, MR. ROOM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR YOUR STAFF? KNOWN AS THE APPLICANT.

AND. GOOD EVENING.

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WELL, MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND WHEN WE MOVED DOWN FROM UP NORTH, I WAS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE WITH THE INTENTION THAT I WOULD BUILD MYSELF A LITTLE SHOP.

I AM A HOBBY WOODWORKER AND I CURRENTLY HAVE ALL OF MY WOODWORKING EQUIPMENT JAMMED INTO MY TWO CAR GARAGE WHILE I'VE BEEN SAVING MY PENNIES, THINKING THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO. AND I GUESS I WAS IGNORANT IN THAT.

I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE RESTRICTION AND I GUESS I THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT A NOT AN ISSUE.

SO I'VE BEEN A WOODWORKER SINCE I WAS TEN YEARS OLD.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY HOBBY, AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

NOW, THE ACCESSORIES STRUCTURES THAT ARE THERE, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, WELL, THERE'S A PUMP HOUSE AND THEN THERE'S A DOG KENNEL THAT'S OLDER THAN THE HOME I LIVE IN.

IT APPARENTLY WAS THERE FROM THE KINECT FAMILY AT A DOG KENNEL.

AND SO RIGHT NOW WE USE IT FOR STORING CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS.

I HAVE A WEIGHTLIFTING GYM IN ONE CORNER OF IT AND SO ON.

AND SO IT IT'S NOT THAT I INTEND OR WANT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT BUILDING DOWN.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT BUILDING BEING THERE.

BUT I WHEN I FOUND OUT I WAS LIMITED WITH THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, GIVEN THE SIZE OF MY HOME, I MEAN, MY HOME IS NOT TERRIBLY LARGE.

IT'S JUST ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET PLUS OR MINUS.

AND AND THEN I THOUGHT, WELL, GOSH, IF I HAD A BIGGER HOUSE, BUT THAT WOULD BE QUITE EXPENSIVE.

SO IT'S AS SIMPLE AS I'M A WOODWORKER, I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF EQUIPMENT I'VE ACCUMULATED OVER THE YEARS AND I'D LIKE TO BUILD A SHOP AND IT DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY, THEN THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? JUST ONE COMMENT. MS..

MIRANDA, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SURE. IT'S RICHARD MIRANDA, 1802 HARDIN LANE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

IT IS. CHAIR AND IT CURRENTLY SITS ON FOUR ACRES.

I'M SORRY, YOU'RE CURRENTLY ON FOUR ACRES? YES. AND ONE MORE QUESTION.

AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE A WOODWORKER.

YES. SO IS THIS STRICTLY A HOBBY OR ARE YOU.

WELL, MY PROFESSION IS IS A CARPENTER AND I WORK INSTALLING CABINETS FOR A LIVING.

AND I DIDN'T ALWAYS DO THAT WHEN I MOVED DOWN.

I THOUGHT BECAUSE I LIKE THE WOODWORKING SO MUCH, THAT'S WHAT I DO.

BUT THIS WOULD BE STRICTLY IT'S BEEN MY IMPRESSION THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T MAKE MONEY BUILDING CABINETS.

THAT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE.

MOST OF THE COMPANIES I'VE WORKED FOR OVER THE YEARS HAVE JUST GONE FALLEN BY THE WAYSIDE, TRYING TO COMPETE WITH THE BIG COMPANIES.

AND SO MOST OF THE CABINETS THAT ARE SOLD COMMERCIALLY COME FROM LARGER COMPANIES.

AND YEAH, THIS IS JUST A HOBBY.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT. IF I MAY GIVE YOU A LITTLE ANECDOTE.

WHEN I WAS TEN YEARS OLD, MY GRANDFATHER'S TABLE SAW SAT IN MY DAD'S GARAGE, AND ONE DAY I WAS WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAW A WASHING MACHINE IN THE GARBAGE.

AND I WENT HOME, GRABBED SOME WRENCHES, TOOK THE MOTOR OUT OF THAT WASHING MACHINE, AND I RIGGED UP MY GRANDFATHER'S TABLE, SAW IT AT WORK.

ABOUT A YEAR LATER, I BOUGHT A LATHE THAT WAS MADE IN 1907 FROM A NEIGHBOR.

I WAS 11 YEARS OLD.

I RIGGED THAT TO WORK AND I HAD THIS EQUIPMENT IN MY BASEMENT.

AND I'VE BEEN A WOODWORKER EVER SINCE, AND I AIM TO DO IT UNTIL I DIE.

AND MY WIFE SAYS, I ONLY HAVE A SMILE WHEN I'M OUT IN THE SHOP TINKERING.

SO THAT'S REALLY IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE.

THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? MR. BRETON. BUILD THAT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS ANOTHER CASE OF WHERE THE CITY OF PALM BAY STARTED LOOKING AT EVERYBODY THAT HAD A QUARTER ACRE OR LESS LOT AND SAID, WELL, WE WANT YOU TO BE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE THE SAME.

AND SO THEY WROTE ORDINANCES THAT PUT THAT STAMP ON IT.

AND THIS IS THE PERFECT CASE OF EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL IDENTITY TO COINCIDE WITH THE LIFESTYLE THEY WANT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LANDOWNERS RIGHTS TO BUILD THAT AND STATES THIS IS THE EXACT EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT LANDOWNER RIGHTS SHOULD BE.

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THEY'RE NOT INFRINGING UPON ANYBODY, BUT THE GOVERNMENT WAS INFRINGING UPON THEM TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.

THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHERE I THINK YOU SHOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE WAIVER ON THIS ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE WILL BE PUBLIC.

COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. IT'S BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD ANY MORE.

FRIENDS? OR DO I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE OF CASE V 4820 22 SECOND.

OKAY. MOTION BY MS..

MIRAGE. SECOND BY MR. OLSZEWSKI. ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

SIR. OKAY.

THE NEXT CASE, 5820 22.

THERE'S A REQUEST TO CONTINUE FORWARD.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED A MOTION AND MOTION TO CONTINUE CASE Z 5820 22 TO THE DECEMBER 7TH PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

SECOND. OCEAN BY MR. WEINBERG SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

I OPPOSED MOTION PERRY'S.

IT'S 359 2022.

ANDERSON. OH, I'M SORRY.

IT'S MR. WHITE.

SIR STEPHEN WHITE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS Z 5920 22 PROPERTIES GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF AND ADJACENT TO EMERSON DRIVE NORTHWEST.

IT'S IN THE VICINITY EAST OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY NORTHWEST AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY 13.96 ACRES AND HAS A CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AS COMMERCIAL.

THAT APPLICANTS REQUESTING A ZONING AMENDMENT MAP FROM AGRICULTURAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.

AND Z 5920 22 DOES MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE AS WELL.

DOES BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WHITE? JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

I WOULD JUST THE FIRST QUESTION WAS TO.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IS COMING IN THIS AREA? THAT I DO NOT KNOW. I WASN'T PRIVY.

THIS WAS JUST A ZONING AMENDMENT.

APPLICANT IS HERE.

QUESTIONS. YES, MISS CHAIR.

ARE THERE ARE THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY OTHER RESTRICTIONS TO WHAT CAN COME TO THAT AREA? WHAT WOULD BE OUTLINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WOULD.

THAT'S THE USES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO THERE.

APPLE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS THIS.

YES. SINCE STAFF SEEING NONE WITH THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD.

GOOD EVENING, ANNA SAUNDERS WITH BSE CONSULTANTS.

THIS IS THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU HEARD ME COME BEFORE YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO.

IT WAS A GROUP PIECE THAT WAS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR THE I CALL IT THE SUBSEQUENT 46 ACRES THAT SURROUNDS THIS PROPERTY.

THIS PIECE IN PARTICULAR, INITIALLY WE'D ASKED FOR A MULTIFAMILY ON IT.

THIS BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THAT WHEN WE GOT TO COUNCIL, THEY HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS.

SO WE ARE BACK BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING FOR THAT SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE SAME 14 ACRES TO ASK FOR THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING 46 ACRES.

SO IT WILL BE A TOTAL OF 60 ACRES OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING AS A WHOLE ON BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES OF EMERSON AND THEN ALSO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKWAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.

AND YES, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WERE LIMITED TO THOSE USES.

WHERE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, MR. OLSZEWSKI. YES.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A FEW EXAMPLES OF THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD END UP HERE? I KNOW IT'S HARD. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TENANTS, BUT JUST THE VARIETY, SO TO SPEAK.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY TENANTS. BUT IN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND I'LL.

STEPHEN, CORRECT ME OR ALEX, MAYBE IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU KNOW, DOCTOR'S OFFICES, BANKS, I THINK UNDER CONDITIONAL USE YOU CAN ASK FOR MAYBE A STORAGE FACILITY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, KIND OF THE LOWER INTENSITY USE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

IT'S NOT YOUR HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, IT'S NOT THERE'S NO HOTEL GOING THERE.

NOTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT JUST SORT OF YOUR STANDARD NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AS THE THE ZONING CATEGORY, THE NAME SORT OF INDICATES IT HELPS FRAME IT.

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YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT SEEING NONE.

AND HE NOT THANK YOU OR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? HE OPPOSED.

MY NAME IS RUTH CRAWFORD.

I'M AT 935 DOUGLAS STREET SOUTHEAST.

ONE OF THE THINGS THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LOT MORE INFORMATION INVOLVED IN ANY CASE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU, THAT HAS DETAILS, WHO'S GOING THERE, WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THIS UNUSUAL AND EXCESSIVE REZONING AND BUILDING GOING ON WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO'S GOING TO GO THERE? SO I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO VOTE YES FOR THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DETAILS.

THERE'S NO NO THINGS GOING ON THERE.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT PROPERTY TO BE CLEARED AWAY AND THEN JUST SIT THERE AFTER THE MARKET DROPS.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE.

FIRST POSTPONE. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT THE LAND USE ON THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL.

IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL AT ONE POINT UNDER THE PUD.

IT HAD A COMMERCIAL USE, NOT ZONING.

I SHOULD SAY THAT ZONING LAPSED WHEN THE PAD ITSELF WASN'T COMMEMORATED.

SO THE ZONING CATEGORY IT HAS RIGHT NOW IS THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED AGRICULTURAL USE CATEGORY, WHICH IS JUST A PLACEHOLDER.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR CITY CODE AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE TO SELECT A ZONING CATEGORY THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY OF COMMERCIAL IS.

COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS ONE OF THOSE ZONING CATEGORIES THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

TO SPEAK TO THE CONCERN ABOUT CLEAR CLEARING THE PROPERTY WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON YET, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE VERY FIRST PRELIMINARY STAGE STEPS IN THAT PROCESS WOULD BE THE REZONING. ANY TYPE OF SITE PLAN APPLICATION HAS TO COME THROUGH CITY STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

AND THEN IF THERE WERE CONDITIONAL USE TYPE REQUESTS, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

YOU'RE WELCOME. IT WAS NOT CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR EMOTION, PLEASE? OKAY. THIS IS THIS IS A GOOD CASE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO ADD SOME MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE EXTENSIVE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH.

SO IT'S A GOOD THING.

MOTION TO APPROVE IS D 5920 22.

I'LL SECOND THAT. AND I ECHO THE SAME THING.

YOU KNOW, WE CITY OF PALM BAY STAR FOR COMMERCIAL AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL.

YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT SO I'LL DEFINITELY SECOND THAT MOTION MY MR. WEINBERG SECOND MY MS..

MIRAGE ALL IN FAVOR I HE OPPOSED.

HE WAS UNANIMOUSLY.

FOUR 5060, 2022 GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

THIS IS EMMA FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND PRESENTING THE CASE OF THE 60 2022.

THE APPLICANT IS BRIAN COLSON AND THE CASE IS REPRESENTED BY ANNA SAUNDERS, BFC CONSULTANT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT ADJACENT TO SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY, NORTHWEST IN THE VICINITY OF NORTH EMERSON DRIVE. THE APPROXIMATELY APPROXIMATE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS ONE 43.73 ACRES.

ZONING OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL, WHILE THE FUTURE LAND USE WILL BE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THE APPLICATION IS REQUESTING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO CONSTRUCT A SUBDIVISION NAMED EVELINE PHASE TWO, A.K.A. NORTHEAST QUADRANT.

SPECIFICALLY, THE FDP PROPOSED 3.98 UNIT SUBDIVISION WITH A DIVERSE LOT SIZES.

THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO INCLUDE 60 ACRES OF OPEN AND REC SPACE, WHICH IS MORE THAN 25% MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF THE OPEN SPACE FOR PDO.

BEAUTY AND THE OPEN SPACE WILL INCLUDE AMENITY CENTERS, POOL, RECREATIONAL FIELD AND LAKE AREAS.

THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL BE CARRIED OUT FOR TWO YEARS AND IN TWO PHASES, AND THE COMPLETION DATE RIGHT NOW IS 2024.

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60 2022 IS ALIGNED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MEET THE MINIMUM CONDITION FOR FTP REQUEST SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS AND STAFF AND STAFF. AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. OLSZEWSKI. MADAM CHAIR, MA'AM, IF I CAN HAVE YOUR HELP HERE.

GO BACK ONE SLIDE TO LOOK AT THE MAP.

I JUST WANT TO A LITTLE HELP WITH THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION IS THE RED DOTTED LINE TO THE NORTH OF EVERYTHING.

AND THEN IT KIND OF DIPS DOWN AND GOES BACK UP.

IS THAT THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY? IS THAT WHAT THAT'S MEANT TO REPRESENT? YES. OKAY.

ALL THE CLARIFICATION I NEEDED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THANK YOU. SEEING NONE WITH THE APPLICANT.

PLEASE COME FORWARD.

GOOD EVENING. ALMA SAUNDERS WITH BSE.

YOU GUYS HAVE PREVIOUSLY SEEN THIS PROJECT.

EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR THE PDP PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS UMA INDICATED, IT IS THE NEXT PHASE, IF YOU WILL, OF MEDLEY, WHICH IS THE PROJECT BEING DEVELOPED CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW TO THE SOUTH.

YOU GUYS VOTED ON THAT ONE AT THE LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

AND JUST FOR SOME POINT OF REFERENCE, THE THE RED SORT OF RECTANGLE WITH THE PIECE MISSING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT WAS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PARCEL THAT WAS JUST VOTED ON IN THE LAST ITEM.

JUST TO GIVE SOME POINT OF REFERENCE ON THE PROJECT, THE 398 UNITS EQUATES OUT TO LESS THAN THREE UNITS AN ACRE.

SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

WE DO HAVE A MIXTURE OF 40 AND 50 FOOT LOT PRODUCT.

IT LIES MORE HEAVILY ON THE 50 FOOT PRODUCT THAN IT DOES THE 40.

THERE'S A CLUBHOUSE FACILITY WITH A POOL AND A COMMON MALE AREA.

THERE'S WETLANDS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT THAT THERE WILL BE WALKING TRAILS THAT WILL BE TIED INTO THE SIDEWALKS AND SOME BENCHES FOR OBSERVATION AND THAT SORT OF THING.

I ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ALREADY.

IT WAS DATED BACK IN JANUARY OF 2022.

WE SUBMITTED THAT TO STAFF.

IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED FOR TODAY'S NUMBERS.

IT'S A LITTLE A LITTLE DATED, BUT THE OUTCOME OF THAT STUDY INDICATED THAT WE NEED TO INSTALL SOME TURN LANES.

SO ONE SOUTHBOUND TURN LANE ON THE PARKWAY INTO THE PROJECT AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO BE ONE WESTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE PROJECT OFF OF EMERSON.

SO THAT'S NOT REFLECTED OR SHOWN ON THE PDP OR ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DATA AT THE TIME, BUT THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND JUST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF MY BIGGEST QUESTIONS? THAT'S ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AGAIN.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME.

FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE.

THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS DEVELOPMENT PROGRESS FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW COMING UP TO THIS LOCATION.

GRANTED, IT'S 143 ACRES AND IT'S IN A LOCATION ON ROADS THAT ARE JUST ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.

AND THEY DID HAVE THE THEY DID HAVE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY DONE FROM THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

BUT I'M REQUESTING THAT POSSIBLY WE TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW TRAFFIC STUDY COINCIDES WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CITY'S NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN DECEMBER SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT LEVEL OF SERVICE COINCIDES WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? SEEING NONE. OR IS IT HOW CLOSE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR EMOTION? AGAIN, THIS IS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE 5060 2022.

SECOND. BY MR. WEINBERG SECOND BY MR. BAUM. ALL IN FAVOR, I AND HE OPPOSED.

SYRIA'S UNANIMOUSLY.

FACE THREE.

MOUSE USE 6120 22.

OKAY. SEE YOU.

6120 22.

THE OWNER OR APPLICANT IS SHERRILYN FLETCHER, PRESIDENT OF THE LIFE CHANGERS OUTREACH REGIMENT, INC..

THIS IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD, NORTHEAST AND BIANCA DRIVE NORTHEAST SPECIFICALLY AT 2100 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD,

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THE REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED PRIVATE SCHOOL IN THE RS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 185.0 34D1 OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

AND THE STAFF FINDINGS ARE CASE C U 6120 22 MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THIS REPORT.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND MS..

FLETCHER IS ALSO HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

IS OUGHT TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

IN TERMS OF THE ZONING AND COMPATIBILITY AROUND THE SURROUNDING THE SURROUNDING AREAS, WHAT IS IT LIKE? IS IT MIXED USE? WHAT'S GOING ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY? THE SURROUNDING, I BELIEVE ON ONE SIDE IS COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY.

OKAY. AND THEN THE REMAINDER IS RESIDENTIAL.

THE EXACT SITE HAS BEEN A CHURCH FOR MANY YEARS, SO IT'S A DEVELOPED SITE.

OH, A CHURCH.

IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE ZONING OF OURS, TOO.

YES. YES, SINCE THE 1960S.

FROM WHAT I COULD FIND.

AND THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE PROPERTY AND IT WILL BE A PRIVATE SCHOOL IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE RS TWO CLASSIFICATION.

REMIND ME OF THE ZONING WHICH WE'RE CHANGING IT TO.

IT'S IT'S RS TWO WE'RE TREATING STAYING, STAYING RS TWO THAT ALLOWS A PRIVATE SCHOOL AS A CONDITIONAL USE.

YES. SINCE STAFF.

SEEING NONE WITH THE APPLICANT.

CHERYL AND FLETCHER OF 4020, ADAMS LANE AND MALABAR, FLORIDA.

3290550. WANT TO TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.

WELL, IT WAS ALREADY IT'S A BUILDING THAT IS ALREADY EXISTED AND ALREADY HAD A SCHOOL THERE.

ALL WHICH IS NOTHING TO ADD.

THEY ALREADY HAD CLASSROOMS THERE, 11 CLASSROOMS THAT CAME WITH IT.

AND WE'VE HAD A PRIVATE SCHOOL FROM 2015 AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT IDEA TO MOVE IN AN AREA WHERE WE CAN OFFER NOT JUST THE SCHOOL, BUT AFTER SCHOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY NOW.

THANK YOU. IS THE BOARD ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? A QUICK QUESTION. THE SCHOOL IS WHAT? K TO K THROUGH 12.

OH, IN THAT.

AND HOW MANY STUDENTS YOU'RE ABLE TO FIT IN TO THAT.

IT'S HAS 128 FOUR THAT CAN FIT IN ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE THERE.

BUT OF COURSE, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I DON'T KNOW THE NEW NUMBERS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE.

FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S A LETTER IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE.

THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? POSED. SEEING NONE.

MADAM CHAIR, I DO HAVE I DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR THE.

ALSO YOUR ORGANIZATION ALREADY OWN THE BUILDING OR YOU ALL IN A PROCESS OF GETTING THE BUILDING AND.

OTHER THAN A SCHOOL, IS THERE ANY OTHER ANY ANYTHING ELSE YOU ALL ARE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING? WITH THE. YES, WE WERE ALREADY ON THE BUILDING AND WE ARE ALSO A CHURCH SO THAT THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS.

THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.

AND IT'S ALREADY EXISTING.

EXISTING, RIGHT.

FORCE NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND IT'S BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS OR EMOTION.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE SIU 6120 22 SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS.

SEEN BY MR. WEINBERG SECOND BY MS..

MIRAGE. ALL IN FAVOR.

HE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

AC 62 2022.

MS.. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

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I WILL BE PRESENTING CASE CEO 62 2020 TO THE APPLICANT FOR THIS REQUEST IS V, M.W.

EXPRESS AND B GLOBAL INVESTMENT LLC.

KELLY FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY WILL BE REPRESENTING THE CASE TONIGHT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SPECIFICALLY AT 2090 NORTH VIEW STREET NORTHEAST.

THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.02 ACRES.

THE PRESENT ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND FUTURE LAND USE IS INDUSTRIAL.

THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE USE OF EXISTING PROPERTY FROM WRECKING STORAGE YARD TO A SMALL SCALE FREIGHT HANDLING AND TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL AT THE LOCATION THAT IS ZONED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE EXISTING BUILDING SORRY, THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY WILL BE USED AS A TRANSFER AND A STORAGE FACILITY.

CASE 62 2020 TO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF A CEO REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE STAFF COMMENT AND CONTAINED IN THE IN THE REPORT.

THE STAFF AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTION.

THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. OSTROWSKI? YES, MADAM CHAIR.

HOW DID THIS APPLICATION COME ABOUT? AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF IS THE APPLICANT OPERATING ON THE PROPERTY IN SOME CAPACITY CURRENTLY AND THEY WISH TO GROW THEIR OPERATION? OR IS THIS A NEWCOMER, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT? I THINK THE THE.

YOU. NO, YOU CAN'T.

I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE MORE.

WHY DON'T I RESERVE THAT FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER STAFF? SEEING NONE WHERE THE APPLICANT.

STATE YOUR NAME AND.

SORRY. JUST REARRANGING FOR A SEC.

HI, MY NAME IS KELLY HEFFERNAN WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES.

355 SPOONBILL LANE, MELBOURNE BEACH.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS MMP GLOBAL.

YOU'VE SEEN BMW EXPRESS AND ALSO CMS EXPRESS.

THEY'RE ALL UNDER THE SAME PARENT COMPANY.

SO THIS IS A NEW PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS SEEKING TO OPERATE WITH THE CITY, IS CALLING A SMALL SCALE FREIGHT HANDLING AND TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THIS IS A VERY SMALL SCALE OPERATION WHICH I CAN GET INTO AND DISCUSS.

IT'S NOT AN AMAZON SIZE OPERATION WITH A MILLION PLUS SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS KIND OF A SMALLER MOM AND POP TYPE SHOP WHO ACTUALLY WORKS FOR DHL, ACCEPTING IN 116 FOOT TRUCKLOAD OF PACKAGES A DAY THAT THEY UNLOAD INTO THE WAREHOUSE SORT.

AND THEN ABOUT 10 TO 15 SMALLER VANS AND VEHICLES WILL MAKE THOSE DELIVERIES TO THEIR ULTIMATE DESTINATIONS, TO YOUR HOMES AND TO YOUR BUSINESSES.

SO THE SITE GENERALLY IS ONLY ACTIVE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING WHEN STAFF COMES ON BOARD AROUND 730 AND THEN THEY'RE DELIVERING PACKAGES.

USUALLY THEY LIKE TO COME BACK BEFORE DARK.

THEY DON'T OPERATE AFTER DARK.

SO IN THIS CASE, WHAT THEY'RE SEEKING IS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THAT FREIGHT HAULING AND TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL.

THEY ARE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEY HAVE STARTED CLEANING UP THE PROPERTY.

IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE AERIAL BEFORE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WAS ESSENTIALLY A DUMPSTER GRAVEYARD.

SO THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ON THIS SITE.

SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO CLEAN UP ALL THE DUMPSTERS.

THEY WANT TO INSTALL SOME LANDSCAPING THAT'S DIED BACK, MAKE THE SITE LOOK BETTER, DO SOME PAINTING, MAYBE ADD A CANOPY ON IN THE FUTURE FOR WHERE THE PACKAGES GET LOADED AND UNLOADED. THEY ARE AN ADVANCED LOGISTICS AND FREIGHT SERVICE COMPANY THAT WILL EMPLOY 12 PEOPLE AT THIS SITE.

AND WHEN THEY SAY FREIGHT, WHAT THEY'RE MEANING IS PACKAGES UNDER £60.

MOST OF THEIR PACKAGES, IF YOU GET SOMETHING FROM DHL, IT MIGHT BE AN OVERNIGHT NOTARIZED DOCUMENT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF LETTER SIZED ITEMS AND ENVELOPES.

AND THEN OTHER THAN THAT, MOSTLY ALL THE PACKAGES ARE UNDER £25, BUT THEY DO ACCEPT PACKAGES UP TO £60.

SO THIS IS NOT REFRIGERATORS AND APPLIANCES AND COUCHES.

IT'S THINGS THAT ARE MOVED BY ONE PERSON AT A TIME WITHOUT SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.

THEY'RE PROPOSING TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING SITE TO RECEIVE DELIVERIES AND TRANSFER PACKAGES.

AND AGAIN, IT'S EMPLOYING ABOUT 12 PEOPLE IN 10 TO 15 VEHICLES.

AND THEN OTHER THAN THE COMPANY VEHICLES BEING STORED ON SITE, THERE IS NO OUTDOOR STORAGE AND ALL WAREHOUSING AND OFFICE USES WILL TAKE PLACE INDOORS.

SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE DRIVING PAST THIS SITE WITH THIS USE WILL BE MUCH IMPROVED.

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THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT AS AN ASSIST BUT HAVE FUTURE PLANS TO IMPROVE IT WITH A COVERED CANOPY AREA AND IN THE FUTURE, IF THEY WISH TO ADD ON TO THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS WELL.

CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATIONS ARE EVALUATED BASED ON THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS OF SECTION ONE 85.0 87 AND THE APPLICANT AND THIS CASE MEETS AND WILL MEET THESE CONDITIONS INTO THE FUTURE.

APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL LEAD TO IMPROVED ESTHETICS OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAN IT UP, INSTALL LANDSCAPING, LIKE I SAID, AND THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND THEY WILL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WE HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING ON OCTOBER 26TH.

I DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL PRIOR TO THAT MEETING OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNS THE VACANT LOT JUST TO THE NORTH, JUST TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

HE HAD NO ISSUES AND WE DID HAVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER IN ATTENDANCE THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, AND THEY JUST REQUESTED THAT WE INSTALL SHRUBS ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY LINE AND ALSO THAT WE OPERATE OUR OUTGOING DELIVERIES ONLY BETWEEN 6:30 A.M.

AND 9:00 PM.

WE'RE ALSO OKAY WITH THAT.

THE ONE THING WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE IS WHEN THAT ORIGINAL TRUCK COMES IN AND DROPS THINGS OFF.

BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY A STAFFED OPERATION.

SO WE WOULD AGREE TO OUTGOING DELIVERIES ONLY BETWEEN 6:30 A.M.

AND 9 P.M.

BECAUSE THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE DAYLIGHT HOURS.

WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE BUSINESS HERE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT GET INTO THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

THANK YOU. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. OLSZEWSKI. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I HAVE A COUPLE. SO WHEN DOES THE THE ENTITY HERE PLAN TO BEGIN THIS BUSINESS OPERATION? AS SOON AS THEY CAN RECEIVE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL.

OKAY. SO THE ONE LETTER THAT WE HAVE ON THE RECORD IS FROM THE POWELL SUBDIVISION NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH.

AND THEY BRING UP THE FACT THAT THERE'S DHL VANS PARKED ON NORTHVIEW STREET EVERY DAY.

AS IT STANDS NOW, ARE THOSE DHL VANS PART OF THIS COMPANY? I CAN ASK. I CAN INVITE THE APPLICANT UP HERE.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN ONSITE, MAKING SOME CLEANUP IMPROVEMENTS, REMOVING THE DUMPSTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I KNOW MOVING FORWARD THERE WON'T BE ANY ANYTHING PARKING IN THE RIGHTS OF WAY.

AT THAT POINT, I'M GUESSING WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THE DUMPSTERS WERE STILL ON THE SITE.

WE DID WE DID RECEIVE A CALL FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AT ONE POINT DUE TO VEHICLES BEING PARKED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT THAT WAS DURING THE TIME OF THE OPERATION WHEN THEY WERE REMOVING ALL THE DUMPSTERS OFF THE SITE.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE VANS, ALTHOUGH THEY HAD YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE DHL INSIGNIA OR WHAT HAVE YOU ON THOSE DAYS, THEY WERE JUST PEOPLE MOVERS TO THE SITE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD LAY HANDS OR WERE THEY OPERATING AND GETTING PACKAGES AND DISTRIBUTING PACKAGES AS THE INTENDED FUTURE USES? AND WE CAN ASK.

WHEN YOU DRESS THAT RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, RYAN.

BOB RYAN.

BOB LUTZ HERE AT 29 NORTH VIEW STREET NORTHEAST.

BASED OFF THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION WOULD BE THAT WE WERE IN A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD WITH, LIKE KELLY SAID, ABOUT THE DUMPSTERS AND THE PREVIOUS TENANT.

SO IT WAS MORE TRANSITIONAL HANDS ON BOARD TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING FOR OUR START DATE AND FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE.

YOU HAVEN'T STARTED YET? NO, I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OPERATION MANAGER, IF I MAY.

THE PREVIOUS DESCRIPTION WAS 116 FOOT TRAILER PER DAY.

THAT IS CORRECT. 16 FOOT BOX TRUCK.

16 FOOT BOX TRUCK.

THAT SEEMS INSIGNIFICANTLY BIG TO ME.

LIKE IT SEEMS SMALL.

IT SEEMS LIKE I'M THINKING A LOT BIGGER THAN THAT.

SO 16 FOOT WHAT YOU SEE SOMEONE MOVE A STUDIO APARTMENT WITH WITH A U-HAUL, CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND LIKE KELLY EXPLAINED EARLIER, THE OPERATION IS SMALL PACKAGE, SMALL PARCEL.

SO, I MEAN, WE DELIVER THOUSANDS OF THESE TYPES OF PACKAGES A DAY.

SO THINK OF THESE, YOU KNOW, 1000 PACKAGES LOADED INTO A 16 FOOT HOW MUCH SPACE THAT MIGHT TAKE.

GOTCHA. SO THEN YOU'RE USING YOUR DOZEN OR SO VANS ARE THE COURIER STYLE VANS, PROBABLY THE COURIER SIZE.

CORRECT. WHAT WOULD BE LIKE A MAKE AND MODEL TO FRAME UP THE SIZE OF THESE VANS? 2020 CHEVY EXPRESS VAN 25 PRESS.

YES, SIR. OR TRANSIT CONNECT DODGE PRO MASTER, THESE TYPES? YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD.

HOW DO YOU FUEL THESE VEHICLES? HOW WILL YOU FEEL THESE VEHICLES? GAS STATION? NOTHING.

NO FUEL AND PROPERTY.

OKAY, SO JUST LET ME GIVE AN EXAMPLE AND TELL ME IF I'M GOING SOMEWHERE HERE.

THE DRIVER IS GOING TO COME IN, WHETHER THEY HAVE IT PRELOADED OR THEY DO THEIR OWN LOADING.

THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS MODEL. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR KEYS.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN THEIR LOADED VEHICLE.

THEY'RE GOING TO HANDLE THEIR FUELING NEEDS OFF PROPERTY, OFF SITE AT A LEGITIMATE FUEL STATION, IN A CORPORATE CARD OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT, AND CARRY ON WITH THEIR DAY.

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SO. GOTCHA. BEFORE THEY COME BACK? PROBABLY. YES, SIR. THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICE.

THAT'S THE EXTENT TO MY QUESTIONS ON THE OPERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING ME THROUGH THAT.

THANK YOU, OFFICER. FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. NO.

FOUR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? HE OPPOSED. WHEREAS NOW CLOTHES IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR EMOTION.

THIS IS DEFINITELY A CLEANER USE OF THE PROPERTY THAN WHAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE.

SIU 62 2022.

SECOND. GOODBYE, MR. WEINBERG. SICKENED BY MR. BOEREMA. ALL IN FAVOR, I AND HE OPPOSED.

CONCURS UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT CASE CP 39 2022 MR. RAMOS.

THE CP 39 2022.

THE OWNER OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH, INC.

AND IS REPRESENTED BY JAKE WISE OF CSG ENGINEERING GROUP LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF MIRAGE AVENUE, SOUTHEAST AND EMERALD ROAD SOUTHEAST.

THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 13.5 ACRES AND THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS PSP, WHICH IS PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC AND SFR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A SMALL SCALE, COMPREHENSIVE, PLANNED FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM THE PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC USE AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE AND STAFF.

FINDINGS ARE THAT CPP 39 2022 MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, JAKE WEISS, IS ALSO HERE.

JOURNALIST DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FORWARD.

I DO. YEAH.

LET ME ASK. LET ME ASK STAFF ONE.

QUESTION. WHERE SO? SO THE CHANGE IS GOING TO BE TO MULTIFAMILY, CORRECT? RIGHT. AND.

AND. WE STILL HAVE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OVER THIS.

EVEN WITH THE MORATORIUM IN PLACE BECAUSE IT IS MFR.

OH, THIS ONE WAS SUBMITTED BEFORE THE DEADLINE.

THAT'S OKAY. SO. SO IT WAS SUBMITTED BEFORE THE DEADLINE? YES. SO THAT'S.

WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT CLEAR? YES. QUESTIONS SEEING NONE WITH THE APPLICANT.

PLEASE COME FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS MICHAEL BERLINER.

I WORK FOR THE COMPANY WAYPOINT RESIDENTIAL.

WE ARE THE SPONSOR ON BEHALF OF THIS APPLICATION.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CENTERPOINT CHURCH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION.

FIRST, I'D JUST LIKE TO START BY THANKING EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, FOR MAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

AND ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY EXCITEMENT.

I KNOW MY TEAM IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS ON THIS PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CENTERPOINT CHURCH, WHO'S A PILLAR OF THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY, AND REALLY EXCITED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TO PRESENT A PROJECT THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE A GREAT FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF AND FOR THE LARGER PALM BAY.

CITY OF PALM BAY IN TOTAL.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAD A MEETING WITH A NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK.

WE HEARD THEIR COMMENTS.

WE HEARD THEIR RESERVATIONS IN RELATION TO THIS PROJECT.

HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT, EVERYBODY WILL FEEL HEARD AND FEEL THAT WE DID AN APPROPRIATE JUSTICE TO THEIR COMMENTS AND RESERVATIONS IN RELATION TO THIS PROJECT.

SO IF YOU COULD FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

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OKAY, COOL. OKAY.

JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND ON WAYPOINT.

SO WE ARE HEADQUARTERED IN BOCA RATON.

WE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF MILES EXCUSE ME, JUST A COUPLE HOURS SOUTH OF WHERE WE'RE ALL SITTING TONIGHT.

WE PRIMARILY OWN OPERATE AND DEVELOP MIXED USE COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AS WELL AS IN THE SUNBELT REGIONS OF THE UNITED STATES.

WE HAVE HAD A SUCCESSFUL TRACK RECORD OVER OUR BUSINESSES 12 YEARS IN BUSINESS, AND I SHARE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS WITH YOU, AS WELL AS THE GRAPHIC THAT'S SHOWN UP ON THE SCREEN TO HELP EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT WHILE WE DO HAVE A NATIONAL PRESENCE AS A REAL ESTATE OWNER AND DEVELOPER, OUR HOME, OUR BACKYARD IS FLORIDA, 2 HOURS, TWO AND A HALF HOURS SOUTH OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE DO CARE ABOUT ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE DEVELOP IN, AND ESPECIALLY SO THOSE COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE FLORIDA REGION, WITHIN OUR BACKYARD.

AND ADDITIONALLY, SPEAKING TO OUR SUCCESSFUL TRACK RECORD, TRYING TO INSTILL CONFIDENCE IN THE BOARD THAT IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTE ON THE PROPOSAL THAT WE ARE PRESENTING THIS EVENING.

OKAY. SO SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE IS A PROJECT THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH.

IT IS THE CROWN SQUARE MIXED USE PROJECT ON MALABAR, JUST ABOUT TWO MILES EAST OF WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT.

SO JUST AS A REFRESHER.

CROWN SQUARE INCLUDES FOR COMMERCIAL PARCELS OUT FRONT AND THERE'S APARTMENTS WAY, WAY IN THE BACK OF THAT PROJECT.

AND WAYPOINT ACTUALLY BECAME INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT IN 2020.

WHAT INITIALLY INTERESTED US OR A BIG INTEREST OF US ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT WAS THE WAS THE PROJECT'S LOCATION, NOT JUST WITHIN THE GENERAL BAY CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT ACTUALLY THE MICRO LOCATION ADJACENT TO SOME NEIGHBORHOODS.

ACROSS OUR PORTFOLIO.

OUR RESIDENTS TRULY ENJOY BEING CLOSE TO AND PART OF A COMMUNITY AND BEING CLOSE TO OTHER HOMEOWNERS.

OTHER POTENTIAL RENTERS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE ENJOYED EXCUSE ME, HAVE EXPRESSED THAT TO US AS THE OWNER.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING ACROSS OUR OVERALL REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO THAT WE LOOK TO LOOK FOR.

OKAY. NEXT HERE IS JUST A COUPLE OF IMAGES OF A PROJECT THAT WE BECAME INVOLVED IN IN 2020, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF PALM IN MELBOURNE.

THE PROJECT IS CALLED LUMINARY AT 95.

I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO ANY DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT AT ALL, BUT I SHARE WITH YOU THE CROWN SQUARE PROJECT, AS WELL AS THIS LUMINARY PROJECT TO HELP EMPHASIZE AND ILLUSTRATE A WAY POINTS LONG TERM INVESTMENT IN PALM BAY.

WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 12 YEARS, 20% OF THAT TIME, PLUS OR MINUS.

WE HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN AND PROBABLY LONGER THAN THAT.

WE'VE BEEN LOOKING IN THE PALM BAY AND MELBOURNE AREA.

THROUGH THE OWNERSHIP AND OPERATION OF THESE TWO PROJECTS.

WE HAVE CREATED HUNDREDS OF JOBS.

WE HAVE SUPPORTED NUMEROUS BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE SUPPORTED THE LOCAL ECONOMIES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA SURROUNDING THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

AND IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT INVESTMENT, LONG TERM INVESTMENT IN PALM BAY WITH OUR CROWN SQUARE MIXED USE PHASE TWO PROJECT. SO I TURN IT TO OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, JAKE, TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS.

THANK YOU. JAKE WEISS, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS JUST AN AERIAL OF THE LOCAL AREA.

SO HERE IN PURPLE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

AND WE HAVE TWO AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT.

WE HAVE THE SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING.

SO I PROMISE WE WON'T GIVE THE PRESENTATION TWICE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO COVER A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.

AND WHAT MICHAEL WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT IS THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS PART OF THE CROWN SQUARE.

PHASE ONE MIXED USE PROJECT, AND THESE ARE THE COMMERCIAL LOTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME.

NOW, WE PUT A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL HERE, AND JUST FOR LOCATION PURPOSES, THIS IS WAL MART.

YOU'VE GOT EMERSON DRIVE OVER HERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS MIXED USE PROJECT.

NOW, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH A LOT OF PROJECTS, AND MOST OF THEM ARE TYPICALLY IN MORE REMOTE AREAS SOUTHEAST, PALM BAY, NORTHWEST, PALM BAY AND OTHER AREAS LIKE THIS.

THIS IS A TRUE INFILL PROJECT.

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WE HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH OF US THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WE HAVE TODAY FOR YOU.

SO THAT TYPE OF INFILL PROJECT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.

FOR EXAMPLE, POLICE AND FIRE ARE ALREADY HAVE A PRESENCE HERE, SO THIS DOESN'T BECOME A BURDEN IN A REMOTE AREA WHERE THERE'S LONG TIMES TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE AREA.

THE CHURCH OWNS THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S UNTAXED.

AND THIS SUBDIVISION THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS HERE TONIGHT WAS PLATTED BACK IN 1962.

AND SO THIS HAS BEEN SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY AS IT IS TODAY AND HAS JUST REMAINED UNDEVELOPED FOR ALL THOSE YEARS.

EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND IT HAS DEVELOPED.

BUT THIS LAST KIND OF INFILL AREA HAS NOT.

AND THEN MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY NOT ONLY SUPPORTS THE COMMERCIAL, WHICH RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE END USERS THAT WE HOPE WILL BUILD. THEY HAVEN'T STARTED YET FOR THE FOUR COMMERCIAL LOTS AND WE'RE HAVING A TOUGH TIME WITH THE FOURTH ONE.

AND AS WE HAVE PRESENTED THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT TO THOSE COMMERCIAL USERS, THERE ARE A LOT MORE EXCITED BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH A BIG PRESENCE WITH MARKET RATE APARTMENTS POTENTIALLY BEING WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, REALLY CREATE A TRUE, WALKABLE AREA AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A TRANSITION IN DENSITY. SO MICHAEL MENTIONED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BEFORE AND THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP SOME GREAT POINTS WE'RE GOING TO HIT ON ON THOSE TONIGHT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT THIS PROJECT BASICALLY CLEAR CUT THE LAND AND WE DID IT WAS A HIGHER DENSITY, HIGHER INTENSITY PROJECT.

IT'S AT 20 UNITS AN ACRE.

IT HAS A BIG GREEN PRESERVED WETLAND OVER HERE.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS SITE IS A STEP DOWN IN DENSITY.

SO YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL USES YOU SEE AROUND OUR PHASE ONE APARTMENT PROJECT AND OF COURSE OUR COMMERCIAL PORTION OF IT WITH THE HIGHER INTENSITY, HIGHER DENSITY OF APARTMENTS.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A LOT LESS.

IT'S 15 UNITS PER ACRE AND THE SUBDIVISION HERE HAS LAND USE OF FIVE UNITS AN ACRE.

SO WE'RE STEPPING DOWN FROM THE COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL TO THE 22 TO 15 TO WHAT'S EXISTING THERE WITH FIVE.

AND BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT, WE HAVE YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, OUR SITE PLAN PROPOSES A LOT OF GREEN PRESERVATION SPACE.

SO WE HAVE A BIG BUFFER ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE.

AND THIS WAS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED THIS WAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A CANAL TO OUR EAST AND WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT BACK UP TO OUR EAST, AND THEN WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT BACK UP TO OUR SOUTH.

CENTREPOINT CHURCH IS RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN THE ROAD TO THE SOUTH HERE IS EMERALD ROAD SOUTHEAST.

SO WHEN WE DESIGN THE SITE PLAN, WE WERE HAVING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE AS OVERSIZE STORMWATER PONDS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WEREN'T EVEN AWARE OF UNTIL THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IS THEY'VE HAD SOME FLOODING ISSUES IN THE PAST DOWN IN THIS AREA, KIND OF SOUTH EAST OF US.

AND SO ONE OF OUR DESIGNS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DRAIN ANY OF OUR STORMWATER TO THE EAST.

WE'RE TAKING IT ALL WEST NOW.

IT DOES CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO A CANAL THAT GOES TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY HELP ALLEVIATE ANYTHING THAT GOES THAT WAY IN CURRENT TIMES. OUR FIRST PHASE OF THE APARTMENTS IS NOT GATED.

AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS ONE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS GATED.

WE DID THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE IS WE KNOW TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE A CONCERN AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THE NEIGHBORS EXPRESSED TO US.

EMERALD ROAD'S SOUTHEAST RIGHT HERE IS ONE OF ONLY TWO ROADS THAT THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST CAN COME AND GO FROM.

IT'S ALONG A PRETTY LONG STRAIGHT ROAD.

THEY EXPRESSED TO US THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SPEEDERS THAT COME THROUGH THERE.

SO WE ARE GATING OURS.

AND THE ENTRANCE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO EMERALD ROAD SOUTH EAST WOULD WOULD ONLY BE FOR RESIDENTS.

SO WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR END USERS FOR THE APARTMENT PROJECT WOULD BE GOING UP TO MALABAR ROAD TO THE NORTH, UTILIZE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL EAST OR WEST FROM THERE.

BUT WE WILL HAVE RESIDENTS THAT WILL COME AND GO FROM THE SOUTH AND THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED.

PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TOWARDS BAYSIDE, LAKES AND SOUTH AND EMERSON MOSTLY.

SO WE THINK WE'VE DONE WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO KEEP OUR TRAFFIC GOING MOSTLY NORTH, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE SOME RESIDENTS AND CARS THAT WOULD GO THERE.

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WE TOOK OUR DRIVEWAY AND PUSH IT ALL THE WAY AS FAR AS WE COULD WITH OUR LAND TO THE WEST HERE TO MINIMIZE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WOULD BE ON, WOULD BE HERE, MINIMIZE THE DISTANCE, HOPEFULLY KEEP THE SPEED SLOWER.

ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS WORKING WITH THE CITY TO SEE IF MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING TO HELP SLOW DOWN EXISTING TRAFFIC AS WELL.

IT WOULD BE SAFER FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

IT WOULD BE SAFER FOR THEM.

AND SO WE IS SOMETHING THAT WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO.

AS FAR AS THE TREE CLEARING GOES, THAT WAS DONE ON THE FIRST PHASE.

AS I SAID, THIS PHASE, AND WE'LL HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TALK IN MORE DETAIL.

WE DO HAVE THESE WIDE GREEN AREAS FOR PRESERVATION.

WE'VE WALKED IT. WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.

WE HAVE A TREE SURVEY BEING DONE ON IT.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF BIG, LARGE TREES THAT WE KNOW WE CAN PRESERVE AND THEN WE CAN ALSO ENHANCE THAT.

BUT WE'LL LET THEM GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

SO THE OTHER CONCERN, OF COURSE, WAS WE'RE LOOKING TO GO TO THREE STORIES.

SO YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ADJACENT TO APARTMENT PROJECT THAT IS THREE STORIES.

SO WE TOOK OUR BUILDINGS AND PUSHED THEM IN AS FAR TO THE CENTRAL CORE AS WE COULD AND PUT OUR BUFFERS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER AND THEN FOCUSED OUR PROJECT AROUND THIS LARGE STORMWATER POND HERE IN THE MIDDLE.

WE PUSHED ALL OF OUR AMENITIES AS FAR AWAY AS WE COULD FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY.

SO ANY ACTIVITIES GOING ON HERE WITH A POOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE PUSHED AS FAR AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTS.

AND ONE THING WE EXPRESSED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO US AS IT IS TO YOU TO HAVE THAT GOOD VISUAL BUFFER, BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE THEM LOOK UP AT US OR US LOOK BACK AT THEM.

AND WE ALSO COMMITTED TO FENCING THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE.

SO THERE'S NOBODY WALKING INTO BACKYARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP AGAIN, CREATE A BETTER BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND AS I MENTIONED, IT IS GATED.

WE DID ALREADY GET APPROVAL FOR A SCHOOL CONCURRENCY FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND JUST WANTED TO READ ONE ELEMENT FROM THE STAFF REPORT JUST DESCRIBING THE PROJECT.

IT SAYS THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE.

MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE AREA AND PROVIDES A STABLE LIVING ENVIRONMENT NEAR AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL CENTER FOR PRESENT AND FUTURE CITIZENS.

THE CHANGE WILL ALLOW FOR A HIGH QUALITY, DIVERSIFIED LIVING ENVIRONMENT.

THE DEVELOPMENT WILL FURTHER THESE GOALS BY EXTENDING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND A PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN UNDEVELOPED FOR MANY YEARS.

SO THE CRITERIA THAT YOU GUYS REVIEW FOR OUR PROJECTS AND THE STAFF REVIEWS IS WE HAVE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH IS THIS FIRST AGENDA ITEM.

THE EIGHT ITEMS AS A STAFF REPORT OUTLINES AND OUR APPLICATION OUTLINES, WE MEET ALL EIGHT OF THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN FOR THE REZONING, WHICH IS THE NEXT APPLICATION THAT YOU WOULD VOTE ON WOULD BE THE FOUR ITEMS. AND WE SHOW THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EACH OF THOSE FOUR ITEMS AND THE STAFF REPORT AND OUR APPLICATION SHOW THE SAME.

WITH THAT, I'LL BRING UP OUR PROJECT PLANNER.

THANKS, JAKE. I'LL JUST CONCENTRATE ON THIS ONE MAP AND I'LL TRY NOT TO BE REDUNDANT.

I DIDN'T SAY WHO I AM. I'M JIM MCKNIGHT.

I'M THE PROJECT PLANNER FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'VE SPENT 42 YEARS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN BREVARD COUNTY AND JUST RECENTLY RETIRED.

SO. BUT I AM A PLANNER BY PROFESSION.

THE CHANGE OF LAND USE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE.

THERE'S USUALLY ONLY A CHANGE OF LAND USE IF THERE'S A MISTAKE IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGNATION OR CHANGE IN THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

I BELIEVE THAT IN LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL, THE MULTIFAMILY THAT'S TO THE NORTH AND THE INSTITUTIONAL USE AND THE CHURCH THAT'S TO THE WEST, THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE OF CHARACTER IN THE AREA OVER THE YEARS.

THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AT 15 UNITS AN ACRE, WHICH IS A STEP DOWN FROM THE 20 TO THE NORTH.

AND AS JAKE HAS SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN STEPS TAKEN TO TRY TO BUFFER FURTHER FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT LIES TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH.

THIS WOULD SERVE AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE HIGHER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL THAT EXISTS TO THE NORTH.

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SERVICES ARE LESS IMPACTED ON A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ROADWAYS LIKE YOU DO IN SINGLE FAMILY.

IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.

UTILITIES ARE INTERNAL AND THEREFORE THEY'RE SERVICE PRIVATELY AND NOT BY THE CITY.

AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS IS NOT SPRAWL, FOLKS.

THIS IS INFILL BECAUSE YOU'RE WHERE THE SERVICES EXIST TODAY AND YOU'RE NOT DOWN SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE ARE NO SERVICES.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS LESS OF AN IMPACT ON THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO SERVICE DELIVERY.

DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT.

IT'S ONLY 13 AND A HALF ACRES.

IT IS CONSIDERED A SMALL SCALE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.

AGAIN, I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT IT IS A PART OF THE MIXED USE, THAT IT IS AN INFILL PROJECT AND EFFORTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO BUFFER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT LIES IN THIS AREA.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK I WILL TURN IT OVER TO SUSAN TO TALK ABOUT THOSE BUFFERS.

THANK YOU, JIM. I'M.

THANKS. I'M SUSAN HALL.

LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

TWO, FOUR, FOUR. MCCLEOD STREET, MERRITT ISLAND, FLORIDA.

I'VE BEEN PRACTICING IN BREVARD COUNTY FOR.

22 YEARS.

SO I'M.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

SO AFTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, JAKE WENT OVER SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS, AND ONE OF WHICH WAS THE BUFFERING BETWEEN THE EAST PROPERTY LINE AND THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE PERIMETER OF THE SITE.

SO WE PUT TOGETHER.

A COUPLE OF SECTIONS TO ILLUSTRATE HOW WE WILL BUFFER THOSE TWO PROPERTY LINES.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE SIX FOOT OPAQUE FENCE THAT WILL BE ON THE PROPERTY PERIMETER, WE HAVE A 25 FOOT PLANTING AREA THAT EXTENDS INTO THE SITE BEFORE THE PARKING BEGINS.

AND THEN THE BUILDINGS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, ARE SET BACK ALMOST 100 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND THAT IS IN BOTH THE ALONG THE EAST PERIMETER OF THE SITE AND THE SOUTH PERIMETER.

SO THE GOOD NEWS HERE IS THAT I'M GOING TO GO BACK, THAT I GO.

IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AREA ALONG AND SEE IF I CAN DO THIS.

SORRY. ALONG THE EAST PERIMETER HERE, THERE IS A REALLY GREAT STAND OF EXISTING VEGETATION THERE, CONSISTING OF PINES AND OAKS AND THE NATIVE VEGETATION THAT WE SEE THROUGHOUT THIS PART OF PALM BAY.

THAT VEGETATION IS REALLY PUSHING 30 TO 40 FEET IN HEIGHT AND IT IS COMPLETELY OPAQUE.

AND SO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT BACK UP TO THAT EAST PROPERTY LINE WILL REALLY HAVE NO CHANGE TO WHAT THEIR VIEW IS UP AT THE NORTH END OF THAT PROPERTY LINE, THERE ARE THREE HOMEOWNER LOTS THAT DO NOT HAVE AS GOOD A BUFFER AND THOSE WILL NEED TO BE INFILLED HEAVILY.

THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.

BUT. ALONG HERE.

IT HAS. IT ALSO HAS A GOOD STAND OF PINES, BUT THEY'RE MORE SCATTERED.

THEY'RE NOT AS DENSE AS THE EAST LINE.

AND SO WHAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING TO DO AND WHAT WE WILL DO IS PLANT A COMBINATION OF PLANT MATERIALS BEGINNING AT ABOUT THE EIGHT FOOT HEIGHT AND GOING UP TO 24 FEET IN HEIGHT.

WE'LL HAVE CANOPY TREES, WHICH WILL BE SLASH PINES AND LIVE OAKS, LARGE ONES, 20, 24 FEET WHEN THEY ARE INSTALLED.

AND THEN WE WILL UNDER PLANT THOSE WITH SOUTHERN RED CEDARS, WAX MYRTLES, INFILL WITH CABBAGE PALM GROUPINGS TO BLOCK OPENINGS THAT WE SEE IN THE VIEWS FROM THE NEIGHBORS BACKYARDS TO THE INTO THE PROJECT.

SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE CREATING A LAYERED EFFECT TO TO SCREEN AND TO BUFFER THEIR VIEWS.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

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MORE THAN YOU, MAYBE, BUT WRAP UP VERY QUICKLY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. SO JUST TO WRAP UP QUICKLY HERE, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN GOING ON FOR A LITTLE WHILE HERE.

SO PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING, WE COMMISSIONED A ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY AND A FISCAL IMPACT STUDY TO SEE WHAT THE EFFECTS WOULD BE ON AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT. THE KIND OF TAKEAWAY RESULTS ARE SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN THERE.

OVER THE LONG TERM, THIS PROJECT WOULD GENERATE $18.4 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL NET FISCAL IMPACT EXCUSE ME, ADDITIONAL NET FISCAL IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S A VERY BIG NUMBER, VERY IMPACTFUL FOR THE CITY DOLLAR WISE.

I JUST TO WRAP UP THE PROJECT, I'M NOT GOING TO REITERATE A BUNCH OF THE COMMENTS THAT OUR PROJECT TEAM HAS MADE.

WE JUST WANTED TO LEAVE HERE ON THE SCREEN FOR EVERYBODY TO CONSIDER DURING DISCUSSION KIND OF THE WHYS OF WHY WE BELIEVE THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

SO THANKS FOR THE TIME, EVERYBODY.

MISSION. IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

SO FOR THE APPLICANT AS AN ENTITY.

BUT MR. WISE, I IMAGINE YOU MIGHT BE THE GENTLEMAN THAT COMES UP.

LET'S JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW.

SO WHY DOES THIS PROJECT HAVE TO EXIT AN ENTRY? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE ANY INTERACTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH? WHY CAN'T WE PUT EVERYTHING OUT TO MALABAR ROUTE? WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS AND THERE'S ONLY ONE EXISTING TO THE NORTH.

SO OUR FOCUS FROM DAY ONE WAS HOW DO WE GET THE MAJORITY OF ANY GUESTS, ALL GUESTS FROM THE NORTH AND THEN THE RESIDENTS UP TO PHASE ONE. BUT HAVING TO HAVE THAT SECOND ACCESS POINT, WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT, KNOWING IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD TO OUR SOUTH, KEEPING IT RESIDENTS ONLY.

SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BETTER, YOU'RE IGNORE THIS PROJECT.

YOUR PHASE ONE PROJECT OBVIOUSLY IS ABLE TO EXIT ONLY TO THE NORTH.

NOW, WITH PHASE TWO COMING IN, IT INCREASES JUST THE OVERALL LIKE FROM LIKE WHAT A FIRE CODE PERSPECTIVE, LIKE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BACK THERE.

YEAH. THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT ONLY HAD THE ONE ACCESS POINT BECAUSE OF THE NARROWNESS.

AND I CAN SHOW YOU ON HERE.

CORRIDOR. I CAUGHT THAT EFFECT.

YEAH. SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A NARROW COMMERCIAL AREA HERE WITH THE LARGER RESIDENTIAL IN THE BACK.

AND BECAUSE OF MALABAR ROADS LIMITED ACCESS POINTS, WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY AND THAT'S WHY WE SIGNALIZED IT WAS TO HELP INCREASE IT.

WE ALSO DID TRY TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO SEE IF WE COULD HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH DRIVEWAYS AND WE COULD NOT WORK THAT OUT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO THAT WAS THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAD.

WE HAD FOR THAT PROJECT, THAT PROJECT, BECAUSE OF THE NARROWNESS OF THE COMMERCIAL, WE ACTUALLY HAD FIVE VARIANCES APPROVED.

IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO BE ABLE TO GET THE COMMERCIAL TO BE A VIABLE PROJECT.

NOW PHASE TWO COMES IN AND PHASE TWO, JUST WHEN YOU TAKE PENCIL TO PAPER, THERE'S NO WAY TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE LIVE BACK THERE AND CONTINUE TO GO NORTH.

NOW WE HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT COMING OUT SOUTH.

THAT'S CORRECT. UNDERSTAND.

SO I WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT THOUGHT AND THAT IDEA, BECAUSE YOUR INDICATION IS THAT THE RESIDENTS AND THE RESIDENTS ONLY THAT NOBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO CUT THROUGH FROM MALABAR BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE GATED THERE, AS YOU STATED, AND IT'S GOING TO BE GATED DOWN LOW.

SO THESE RESIDENTS, THEY WANT TO CARRY ON WITH THEIR DAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT TO THE SOUTH.

THEY'RE GOING TO END UP A LITTLE TINY BIT ON EMERALD, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO END UP ON MIRAGE AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT ON COPLEY.

AND IT'S YOUR ASSERTION THAT FOLKS THAT WANT TO GET TOWARDS BAYSIDE LAKES ARE GOING TO TAKE A LEFT ON EMERSON OFF OF COPLEY.

THAT'S OUR ANTICIPATION.

WELL, I HUMBLY UNDERSTAND YOUR ASSERTION.

JUST BEING A PALM BAY FELLOW LIKE I AM, IT IS DARN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE A LEFT SOUTHBOUND.

I PROMISE MY POINT'S EVEN BETTER.

JUST LET ME MAKE IT. IT.

ANYTHING NORTH OF JUPITER.

YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT.

AND INTERACTING WITH EMERSON IS A NIGHTMARE NORTH OF JUPITER.

YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT. I ALWAYS MISS THE LEFT TO CONSUMER BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET TO WAWA.

AND THEN YOU GOT TO GO BACK OUT.

DRIVES ME CRAZY. THERE'S NOTHING TO BE DONE THERE.

SO JUST THE THOUGHT OF LIVING THE DAY COMING UP, EMERSON NORTHBOUND COMING TOWARDS MALABAR AND THE LINE OF CARS THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT TO COPLEY AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT ANYBODY DOES TO MAKE A LEFT, EVEN THE LEFT NORTHBOUND.

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IT'S GOING TO GET ALL SCREWY.

SO CONVERSATIONALLY SIGNAL ISING COPLEY AND EMERSON IS THAT COME UP SO CONVERSATIONALLY.

SO YOU MADE TWO VERY IMPORTANT POINTS.

ONE IS EXACTLY OUR POINT.

PEOPLE TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.

IF IT'S PEAK AMMO OR ESPECIALLY THEY'RE GOING TO GO NORTH TO THE LIGHT, MAKE A LIGHT ON MALABAR OR LEFT ON MALABAR ROAD.

THEN THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A LEFT AT THE LIGHT.

AND EMERSON, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO DOWN THAT WORLD.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO COPLEY.

THEY'LL LEARN DAY ONE THAT THAT LEFT TURN, ESPECIALLY THE AM PEAK HOURS TOO DIFFICULT TO MAKE AND TOO DANGEROUS.

SO THEY WON'T PUSH THE TRAFFIC NORTH, WHICH HAS BEEN EXACTLY OUR POINT.

SO THAT'S PART OF IT.

THE OTHER PART OF IT IS WE WILL DO A TRAFFIC STUDY IF WE GO PASS THE ZONING AND THE LAND USE AND PART OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WILL LOOK AT IMPACTS THAT THE PROJECT MAKES TO THE SURROUNDING ROADS AND INTERSECTIONS.

WE CAN'T LEGALLY INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL UNLESS IT'S WARRANTED, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY WARRANT.

IF IT IS WARRANTED, THEN YES, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULD BE PART OF IT.

FOR WHATEVER PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE OUR PROJECT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND NOT NECESSARILY ADVOCATING FOR IT, BECAUSE HONESTLY, IT WOULD PROBABLY CAUSE EVEN MORE TROUBLE AS FAR AS LOADING TRAFFIC UP TO THAT INTERSECTION.

BUT I'M BY NO MEANS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

JUST MY CONCERN IS YOU'RE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS SOUTH ENTRY EXIT.

FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WE ESTABLISH THAT.

BUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT EVERYONE WITH A LOGICAL BRAIN WILL AVOID USING IT.

SO THEN WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE IT? WHY CAN'T IT BE DEEMED AS AN EMERGENCY EXIT OR THE FIRE STATION CAN GET IN AND WHAT HAVE YOU? AND JUST THE GENERAL TRAFFIC PATTERN IS TO THE NORTH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF NECESSARILY YOU CAN ANSWER THAT, BUT THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I'M STUCK ON BECAUSE NOT FLOWING THIS TRAFFIC OUT OF THIS PROJECT INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL AND JUST TUCKING THIS PROJECT IN AND JUST HAVING THAT BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT CHANGES IT.

FOR ME, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION, BUT I CAN'T GET TO THAT CONSIDERATION WITH THIS TRAFFIC SITUATION.

I'M REALLY, REALLY STUCK ON IT.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO AT SITE PLAN.

SO IT'S SITE PLAN, WE WOULD DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE WOULD LOOK AT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC GO EACH DIRECTION.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AS EMERGENCY ACCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY OTHER ACCESS WOULD BE THE NORTH.

AND IF THERE'S SOME EMERGENCY FIRE, WHATEVER, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT SECONDARY ACCESS POINT.

BUT WE DO TRULY BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF OUR DAILY TRAFFIC WILL GO TO THE NORTH BECAUSE OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

AND OUR INTENTION IS TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC OFF OF EMERALD, ESPECIALLY AFTER HEARING WHAT THE NEIGHBORS TOLD US ABOUT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE'D WORK AT IT SITE PLAN.

AND IF WE CAN MAKE AN EMERGENCY ONLY ACCESS OF SOMETHING WE'RE ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO LOOK INTO WITH STAFF AT THAT TIME.

MADAM CHAIR, FORGIVE ME. THIS MIGHT BE MORE POINTED FOR STAFF, BUT IS THAT FEASIBLE? IS IT IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITIES THAT IT WILL END UP AS ONLY AN EMERGENCY EXIT? OKAY, SO TWO POINTS OF CLARITY.

THE TWO EXITS, ENTRANCES TO THE SITE, ONE OF WHICH ONLY NEEDS TO BE AN EMERGENCY.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE TWO FULL BLOWN EXITS AND ENTRIES TO THE SITE.

SECONDLY, THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE OVER A LOW DENSITY ROAD IS ACTUALLY AGAINST OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY TO GO OVER PER T.C..

SORRY, IT IS FUTURE LAND.

SORRY. TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT P C E, 1.2 C WHICH STATES THAT NO MULTIFAMILY TRAFFIC SHALL TRAVEL OVER LOW DENSITY ROADS.

THIS AREA IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A LOW DENSITY ROAD PER ZONING DISTRICT, ZONING DISTRICT AND OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO ALL TRAFFIC WOULD HAVE TO GO NORTH IF THIS SITE WERE TO BE APPROVED FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THEREFORE, WE WERE GOING TO REQUEST A SORT OF CONDITION ON THE ZONING LEVEL BECAUSE WE DO NOT CONDITION FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENTS OR FUTURE LAND USE REQUESTS.

JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, MR. ANDERSON, IS THAT OUTLINED AS A STAFF COMMENT IN EITHER CASE AND PERHAPS I OVERLOOKED IT.

NO, IT IS NOT IS SOMETHING WE KIND OF STUMBLED UPON A LITTLE BIT MORE TODAY WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT WHAT DIRECTIONS TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO GO AS WE HAD STARTED TO IDENTIFY WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WHICH WHERE HE HAD ACTUALLY ANALYZED THE TRAFFIC FOR WHICH WAS TOWARDS THE NORTH.

OKAY. SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE FOR UNDERSTANDING, SIR, IT'S THE CITY OF PALM BAY STAFF ASSERTION THAT THE ONLY EXIT THAT CAN EXIST TO THE SOUTH WOULD BE FOR EMERGENCY USE ON CANNOT BE A A EVERYDAY ENTRY AND EXIT WITHOUT BEING IN CONFLICT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT.

AND THAT WOULD, IF THEY WANTED TO, TO MODIFY THAT, HOW COULD THEY? BUT JUST HOW THEY'RE DOING HERE.

MODIFY. I'M SORRY.

SO IT'S IT'S INCONGRUENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BUT THEN WE'VE APPROVED THIS PROJECT.

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SO, YOU KNOW, AS AN AGGRIEVED PARTY, THEY SAY, WELL, HOW DO I GET BEYOND THIS? IS IT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT? AT THAT POINT, IF THERE WAS TO BE A PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO RECTIFY THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT FOR THAT.

OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE A CONFLICT AND THERE ARE NO VARIANCES VARIANCE PROCESSES, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I THINK ATTORNEY EDWARDS MIGHT BE ABLE TO ILLUMINATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

NO VARIANCES FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS IN ANY.

YEAH. UNDERSTOOD.

I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION, SIR, BECAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO ESTABLISH IS FACT IS THAT THERE ARE NOT CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT PUT US INTO A SITUATION THAT LITERALLY MATHEMATICALLY DOESN'T ADD UP.

AND IN THIS INSTANCE, THE LETTER OF THE LAW DOESN'T ADD UP.

WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THE LETTER OF THE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT.

AND YOU'RE SHARING WITH ME THE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, WOULD AS IT GETS FURTHER DOWN THE FUNNEL, FIX THIS LITTLE PROBLEM.

SO WHAT MY SOLUTION OR PROPOSITION I WOULD SAY TO BE IF YOU WERE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON THIS, WOULD BE TO PUT A CONDITION ON IT WHERE ALL TRAFFIC THROUGH THE SITE PLAN HAS TO BE ENGINEERED TO GO NORTH AND CANNOT EXIT TOWARDS EMERALD.

UNDERSTOOD, SIR. AND I HAVE LANGUAGE FOR THAT IF NEEDED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN WE COMMENT ON THAT? THIS IS NOT A CONDITION THAT WE'RE AWARE OF UNTIL TONIGHT.

IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL.

SO THAT DOES CHANGE THINGS.

WE HAVE MET PREVIOUSLY AND WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS ITEM.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT IN OUR REBUTTAL, HOPEFULLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER ON.

BUT THIS IS NEW INFORMATION TO US.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONDITION WOULD NOT BE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

IT WOULD BE ON THE ZONING ITEM, WHICH IS THE NEXT ONE.

BE STOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AT THIS TIME.

GIVE IT UP. I WOULD SAY THANKS, RANDALL, FOR BRINGING THAT UP, BECAUSE I LOOKED AT IT AND I WAS WONDERING, WHY WOULDN'T IT BE? BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE HAD OTHER PROJECTS WHERE IT IS NOT NECESSARILY DEEMED A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE TWO EXITS.

YOU KNOW, SO I'M GLAD THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND.

IF WE APPROVE THIS THE WAY IT IS NOW, THEN THE NEXT ITEM, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE CONDITION IN THERE.

THAT IS CORRECT. YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO PUT A CONDITION ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST ONLY ON THE ZONING.

OKAY. AND SO ALSO WHY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS IN THE PAST.

THIS IS RELATIVELY NEW TO US.

AND PALM BAY AS WELL IS WE DO HAVE A NEW FIRE PLANS.

EXAMINER AND SO HE'S LOOKING AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THIS ON PAST PROJECTS AND YOU'RE SEEING IT ON MORE RECENT PROJECTS.

AND SO BASED ON YOUR REACTION JUST NOW TO THIS, IS IT WHERE YOU WANT TO NOT GO FORWARD WITH THIS OR WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO, IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, SINCE ALL THESE PEOPLE CAME OUT HERE TONIGHT, I THINK THEY'RE ALL HERE FOR US THAT ARE REMAINING.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR THEIR FEEDBACK, THEIR INPUT IN DETAIL.

WE'D LOVE TO GET ALL THAT AND THEN OUR TEAM WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS JUST NEW INFORMATION TO US.

JUST THE REASON I SAID THAT BASED ON STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS AT THIS POINT, I KNOW IT'S NEW TO YOU, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE GOING FORWARD THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE WE WILL, BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, PUT THIS CONDITION ON SO THERE'S NO ALTERNATIVE.

WELL, I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULDN'T HAVE STAFF CONDITION ON THERE.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 100% UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JF MR. OLSZEWSKI PRETTY MUCH HIT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ANYWAY, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER ON PHASE ONE, ONE OF MY CONCERNS ALONG WITH OTHERS.

THAT THE IMPACT ON MALABAR.

YOUR FIRST PHASE ONE WOULD HAVE.

NOW, WITH THE CONDITION, NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER SUBDIVISION.

COMPLEX GOING THE SAME WAY.

THAT'S GOING TO PUT THE BURDEN, WHICH IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE.

IT'S GOING TO PUT IT ON THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE TWO COMPLEXES AND NOT ON THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

HOPEFULLY, PALM BAY IS STILL GOING TO RUN.

SMOOTHLY AS CAN BE SO.

IF THAT'S THE CONDITION IT'S GOING TO BE PUT INTO, THIS WOULD PROBABLY GET MY VOTE TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY WITH THAT.

WE DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE LAND USE APPLICATION, WHICH IS THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AND THEN ANOTHER SPECIFIC TO THE ZONING, WHICH IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

AND THEN IF THE ZONING AND LAND USE ARE APPROVED, WE'LL DO A FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC STUDY THAT ANALYZES THE WHOLE AREA, JUST LIKE WE DID FOR PHASE ONE.

ONE OTHER QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, WAS PHASE TWO ALWAYS GOING TO BE A POSSIBILITY?

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IT WAS NOT BECAUSE WAYPOINT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT WASN'T INVOLVED WITH PHASE ONE.

THEY GOT INVOLVED IN PHASE ONE AFTER IT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. FOUR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS.

TWO LETTERS IN THE FILE FOR THIS CASE AND THE JOINING CASE, THE ZONING.

AND MAY I REMIND YOU THAT IF THERE ARE AS A COURTESY, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE, A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU APPOINT A SPOKESMAN TO CLARIFY YOUR VIEWS. SO WE'RE NOT BEING REDUNDANT WITH COMMENTS AND YOU WILL BE LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES.

YOUR COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? HOLLY. BECAUSE EVENING I WILL BE UNDER 3 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS TOM WALKER.

I'M THE LEAD PASTOR OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH AT 891 COPLEY STREET.

I DO LIVE IN WEST MELBOURNE, FIVE SEVEN, SOMETHING LIKE ASHLEY'S CIRCLE.

I'VE BEEN THE PASTOR AT CENTERPOINT FOR 18 YEARS.

I'VE SERVED AND AS A CHURCH, WE'VE SERVED THOSE LESS FORTUNATE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

FOR TEN YEARS WE'VE HELD FOR TEN YEARS WE HELD AN OUR ANNUAL BACK TO SCHOOL FESTIVAL THAT HELPED THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES PREPARE FURTHER FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR BEFORE OUR FOOD PANTRY RECENTLY CLOSED.

EVERY WEEK, WE PROVIDED GROCERIES FOR OVER 500 FAMILIES UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF RAINIER WARNER.

SO THE POINT IS A CHURCH THAT CARES ABOUT PEOPLE.

WE DO CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS, AND THEY DIDN'T.

AND THAT DIDN'T END WELL.

AND WHEN WE WERE APPROACHED BY WAYPOINT RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL, TO BE HONEST, WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT COMING INTO THE NORTH OF US, I WAS SKEPTICAL ABOUT THESE APARTMENTS COMING ON MALABAR.

I REMEMBER SOME OF US MEETING UNDERNEATH THE CHURCH PAVILION.

THEY TOLD ABOUT HIGH END APARTMENTS THAT WOULD ATTRACT MIDDLE AND UPPER UPPER MANAGEMENT.

I WAS DOUBTFUL.

LATER I SAW THE.

THE PLANS.

I SAW THE PICTURES.

I WAS ENCOURAGED.

AND SO DID OTHERS THAT SAW THOSE SAME PICTURES AND PLANS.

ONE SHOULD REMEMBER FOR THE PAST 18 YEARS, WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST AS A CHURCH TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, MUCH OF IT THOSE LESS FORTUNATE. PLACES THAT CAN DRAW HIGHER WAGES INTO OUR COMMUNITY CAN ONLY HELP THE CITY AND CAN ONLY HELP OUR OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL OF US.

THIS PROPERTY COULD EASILY HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED BY A BUILDER PUTTING IN LOW END HOUSING, WHICH WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AS BENEFICIAL TO US.

I'VE WORKED WITH THIS BUILDING NOW FOR GOING ON TWO YEARS.

THEY'VE ALWAYS EXCEEDED THEIR PROMISES.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORS FRUSTRATION.

I EMPATHIZE WITH THAT. I REALLY DO.

MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BENEFITED FROM ACRES OF WOODS BEHIND THEM AND GOTTEN USED TO THAT.

BUT IT WAS ALWAYS THE CHURCH'S INTENTION TO BUILD ON THAT LAND OR IF NECESSARY, SELL THEIR PROPERTY TO FUND THE BUILDING OF A NEW SANCTUARY ON A DIFFERENT LOCATION, PROBABLY ON OUR CURRENT PROPERTY.

OUR INTENTION RIGHT NOW IS TO DO THE LATTER.

I WANT TO MAKE THIS REALLY CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION GOING ON AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND RIGHT IN THIS ROOM.

THIS WAS A CONGREGATIONAL DECISION.

IT WAS NOT MADE BY ME.

IT WAS NOT MADE BY A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.

IT WAS MADE AFTER MUCH PRAYER BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE MINUS TO A VOTE MADE BY THE MEMBERS TO SELL THIS PROPERTY.

CENTERPOINT'S PRESENT BUILDING IS NOT ADEQUATE FOR OUR MINISTRY TO CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND TO GROW.

THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY GIVES US THE NEEDED FUNDS TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ERECTING A NEW SANCTUARY.

I BELIEVE THE CHURCH IN GENERAL IS A VITAL PART OF A VITAL PART OF ANY COMMUNITY.

AND I BELIEVE CENTREPOINT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PALM BAY.

THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY WILL ENABLE THIS CHURCH CENTREPOINT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND KEEP SERVING ALL OF OUR PEOPLE IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.

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ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT? SURE? YES.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ONCE ERA.

I LIVE AT 256 ABERDEEN ABERNATHY CIRCLE, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

MY NAME IS JUAN SIERRA.

I HAVE LIVED IN PALM BAY FOR EIGHT YEARS AND HAVE ATTENDED CENTERPOINT FOR 15.

I AM A FATHER, A MARINE, AN ENGINEER, A YOUTH FOOTBALL COACH, A YOUTH SOCCER COACH, AND A CHILDREN'S LEADER AT THE CHURCH.

I'M SURE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE LAND SALE AND BUILDING OF APARTMENTS.

I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND.

I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY STORY AND WHY I WANT THE ZONING CHANGE.

TEN POINT HAS OWNED THIS LAND FOR ABOUT 23 YEARS, AND IN THOSE 23 YEARS THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE HOLD MANY EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT PARKING IS A NIGHTMARE DURING THESE EVENTS, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH OUR BACKPACK EVENTS, FALL FESTIVAL EGG HUNTS OR KID CAMPS.

WITH THE SALE OF THE LAND.

WE WILL ONLY NOW, ONLY WILL BE ABLE TO GROW OUR CHURCH, BUT ALSO THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND BE ABLE TO ADD AMPLE PARKING FOR THESE EVENTS.

I KNOW CHANGE IN THIS AREA IS NEVER EASY, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GROW A CHURCH AND MAKE AN IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THIS CHANGE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR? HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS JASON JOHNSON.

I'M A 1561 ROXBURY COURT, NORTHEASTERN PALM BAY.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

CHANGE IS NEVER EASY, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU HAVE THE TREES AND EVERYTHING BEHIND YOU.

I'M GOING THROUGH THAT SAME EXACT THING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT. WE OWNED THAT HOUSE FOR OVER 20 YEARS WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF TREES IN THE BACK.

BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN MY AREA, WE KNOW.

SAME THING WITH THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT.

BUT IT'S WHAT BRINGS GROWTH TO PALM BAY.

AND I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYONE LIKES CHANGE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THAT'S IN THEIR.

THAT'S FOR WHAT THEY'VE PAID FOR AND THEIR PROPERTY.

AND YOU CAN'T ALWAYS CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS AROUND YOU.

YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR PALM BAY.

I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE ON ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHOLE THING.

BUT THERE WAS MORE QUESTIONS.

IF YOU THINK HONESTLY, THAT ONLY ONE TRUCK IS GOING TO COME IN THE MORNING TO DROP OFF PACKAGES.

YOU'RE WRONG. WHAT ABOUT THE PACKAGES THAT COME BACK AND THEY HAVE TO GET PICKED UP AT NIGHT IN ORDER TO GO OUT? THERE'S MORE TO IT, RIGHT? AND AS LONG AS WE'RE OPEN MINDED, I THINK IT'LL WORK OUT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU. AND EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS MIKE JAFFE.

I LIVE AT NINE, EIGHT, SEVEN ME AN AVENUE NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

I'M A SINGLE FAMILY GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND A REAL ESTATE AGENT HERE IN PALM BAY.

I'M IN FAVOR OF CENTREPOINT SELLING ON THIS CHURCH AND THE APARTMENTS COMING IN STRICTLY FOR THE SOLE REASON OF INCREASING OUR TAXABLE INCOME FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. ON THE REFERENDUM.

RIGHT NOW ON THE BALLOT, THERE'S TWO REFERENDUMS. ONE IS TO INCREASE THE MAYOR MAYOR SALARY BY 50% AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SALARY BY 25%.

THERE'S ALSO A REFERENDUM TO REMOVE LIMITATIONS, TO INCREASE AD VALOREM TAXES IN THE CITY BY OVER 3%.

WOULD YOU LIMIT IT TO THIS CASE? I'M MAKING MY POINT, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. SO THE POINT THE POINT I'M MAKING, IN ADDITION TO THE BUDGET INCREASE AND THE TAX INCREASE THAT HAPPENED A FEW WEEKS AGO, IS THIS PROPERTY IS NOW GOING TO BECOME TAXABLE INCOME FOR THE CITY CREATED IN EXCESS OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND OUT OF TAXES THAT THE CITY HASN'T CAPTURED FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. THAT'S ROUGHLY $10 MILLION IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OF THE CITY HASN'T BENEFITED BENEFITED FROM.

ANOTHER POINT I LIKE TO MAKE IS HOMELESSNESS IN OUR IN OUR CITY AND OUR COUNTY IS BECOMING MORE RAMPANT.

AND WITH THE DISCUSSIONS OF DAILY BREAD COMING UPON BAY, THIS LAND AT THE SALE ISN'T ABLE TO HAPPEN.

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SO WITH ALL THOSE POINTS BEING MADE, I FULLY SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS CHURCH AND FOR THE REZONING AND COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE CHANGE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR? RIGHT. ANY OPPOSED.

SURE.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TERRI GIBBS.

I LIVE AT 1001 DOUGLAS STREET, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

OH, I BOUGHT THIS HOME IN A.

TO BE AROUND PEOPLE THAT I DIDN'T COME HERE TO HAVE APARTMENTS PUT NEXT TO ME TO MAKE MAKE THINGS CHANGE AROUND ME AND ALL THE TREES AND STUFF THEY'RE TAKING OUT. WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMALS AROUND HERE? THEY AIN'T GOT NO PLACE TO GO.

YOU'VE GOT TO STOP THIS STUFF.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE.

I MOVED HERE TO BUILD THIS PLACE, TO GET BETTER IN THIS PLACE AND WITH THE VA AND EVERYBODY HELP ME ON THIS.

THIS, THIS COMMUNITY COULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT THAT.

ALL I GOT TO SAY.

I AGREE. I.

YOU PUT MY CARD IN THE BASKET.

MY NAME IS LAURA ROBERTS.

I LIVE ON 910 DOUGLAS STREET.

AND I KNOW WE'RE TIME LIMITED.

I DO HAVE COPIES.

I MADE A LIST OF BULLET POINTS.

I ALSO HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE.

I'M JUST GOING TO READ OFF MY SCRIBBLES FIRST.

BUT I HAVE A FEW NOTES HERE REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, WHICH THEY MENTIONED WITH THE GATE.

THANK YOU. MR. RANDALL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

FLOODING AND ALSO SOME ECONOMIC ISSUES.

FIRST, IN ADDITION, WITH THE GATE THAT THEY MENTIONED AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE WILL MENTION TO, THERE ARE EXISTING BUS STOPS AT DOUGLAS AND COPLEY AND THE CHILDREN WALK TO THESE BUS STOPS ON THE STREET.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.

SO THAT'S MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND AS TO WHY WE DON'T WANT THE GATE ON EMERALD.

AND THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED THAT HE ASSUMED THE MOST PEOPLE WOULD GO NORTH ON MALABAR ROAD.

NOW I LIVE ON DOUGLAS STREET.

I TRY AND AVOID MALABAR ROAD AT ALL COSTS.

SO WHAT I DO WHEN I GO TO WORK IS I GO OUT ON DOUGLAS STREET, I TAKE A LEFT, I GO DOWN GRANDEUR AND THEN I CIRCLE AROUND DOWN JUPITER, AND THEN I COME OUT BY THE COLLEGE TO AVOID ALL THOSE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND GET ON I-95.

NOW, IF THAT THING ON EMERALD DOES HAPPEN, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO.

THEY DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN MALABAR ROAD.

THEY'RE GOING TO SNEAK DOWN THERE, GO DOWN JUPITER AND COME OUT BY THE COLLEGE, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

AND ALSO, I HEAR THEM SAYING CLAIMS OF STEPPING DOWN, ADDING 330 PARKING PLACES.

DOESN'T SOUND LIKE STEPPING DOWN TO ME.

NOW, ALSO ABOUT FLOODING AND THERE'S PROBABLY MORE NEIGHBORS THAT CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

YOU CAN GO ON YOUTUBE AND DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH.

IN. IN 2008, TROPICAL STORM FAY DUMPED A WHOLE BUNCH OF WATER ON THIS AREA.

IF YOU ALL WERE AROUND WHEN THAT HAPPENED AND YOU DON'T NEED A HURRICANE, ACTUALLY, TROPICAL STORMS DO MORE DAMAGE THAN HURRICANES WITH WATER.

BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME PICTURES HERE.

I CAN GIVE YOU THE PICTURES, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE STOPS.

I CAN'T EVEN SEE THE ROAD.

SO IN ADDITION, NOW WITH THIS RECENT STORM WITH IAN, I HEARD THAT AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THEY HAD SOME SORT OF CODE FOR HOW MANY INCHES PER HOUR.

LET'S COMPARE WITH WHAT ACTUALLY DUMPED IN ORLANDO INCHES PER HOUR AND SEE IF ANY CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE TO THAT.

OK AND I KNOW YOU'RE ON TIME HERE.

I HEAR A LOT ABOUT MONEY.

I HEAR A LOT OF ECONOMICS.

YOU KNOW, HOUSES DON'T REALLY BRING STUFF INTO A COMMUNITY.

DESPITE WHAT YOU MAY BE THINKING, HOUSING BUBBLES CAN BURST.

WHAT BRINGS DRIVES ECONOMICS IS JOBS AND MANUFACTURING.

AND WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO DOWN ROBERTS ROAD AND CAPE CANAVERAL, YOU SEE BLUE ORIGIN BUILDING UP HUGE FACTORIES.

YOU SEE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ROCKET COMPANIES COMING IN.

NOW, MY POINT BEING, WHY DOES THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVE TO BE IN PALM BAY RIGHT ON THIS EXISTING THING? IF THIS DEVELOPER WANTS TO TAKE SOME PLACE OVER, THEY COULD GO UP TO CAPE CANAVERAL.

AND THE REASON WE LIKE IT HERE IS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ORLANDO, WE'RE NOT BOCA RATON.

WRAP IT UP. OKAY.

SO THAT'S I KIND OF WANTED TO BRING THE ECONOMIC COSTS INTO IT BECAUSE HOSPITALS, LANDFILLS, I HEARD THE

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THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE YOUR COSTS THERE.

THERE'S QUITE A FEW MORE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE A COPY, I HAVE SOME COPIES HERE.

THANK YOU. PERSON.

REFERENCES. MY NAME IS RUTH CRAWFORD.

935 DOUGLAS STREET.

WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT PHASE ONE, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT PHASE TWO.

THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WAS PROJECTED ABOUT THAT.

AND ON ALL THESE PICTURES, I DON'T SEE TWO ENTRANCES AT ALL.

THERE'S ONLY ONE COMING OUT.

COPLEY OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION.

WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE? I DON'T SEE IT.

IT'S NOT THERE.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SIMPLE VISUAL STUFF.

SO SIMPLE MATH THAT TELLS ME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 384 CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT.

JUST THAT LITTLE DOWNGRADE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT SUBDIVISION, THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.

THAT IS TOTALLY NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I LIVE ONE OR TWO BLOCKS FROM THERE.

THAT IS UNBELIEVABLY CRAZY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WITH ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN JUST THE LAST 18 MONTHS, TRAFFIC IS AWFUL.

JUST UP AND DOWN. DOUGLAS UP AND DOWN.

EMERALD THE THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE THAT COME UP AND DOWN THERE, THEY BLOCK THE SIDES OF THE ROAD.

YOU CAN BARELY GET THROUGH THERE.

THE SPEEDERS COME THROUGH THERE.

I DON'T PARK OUR CARS NEAR THE ROAD AT ALL FOR FEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET HIT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S VERY, VERY, VERY MUCH A SAFETY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE KIDS WALK ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN.

DOUGLAS, TO GET THE BUS AT EMERSON, THAT IS GOING TO BE WORSE THAN EVER BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A SAFETY CONCERN FOR THEM.

AND JUST AS SOMEBODY ELSE ALREADY STATED, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY DEVELOPER HAS STOOD ON THE CORNER OF EMERSON AND DOUGLAS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7 A.M.

AND 10 A.M., SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IT UP AND DOWN THERE.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT MALABAR DURING THAT TIME FRAME? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT PALM BAY ROAD DURING THAT TIME FRAME? I WAS AT 4:00.

I WAS UP AND DOWN.

BABCOCK ALL THIS BUILDING GOING ON AROUND HERE NEEDS TO STOP.

NOT JUST THIS, ALL OF IT.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO JUST STOP RIGHT NOW AND JUST STOP DOING THIS AND RECOVER FROM WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN HAPPENING.

WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE COVERAGE FOR ANYTHING GOING ON, LET ALONE ALL THE NEW BUILDING AND ALL THE NEW THINGS THAT ARE GOING IN THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE.

PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO GET THERE.

THE RESPONSE TIME IS HORRIBLE.

SO AND THEN I DON'T I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE.

OKAY. SO IF WE WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR ROADS, WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY AT LAMAR.

THAT IS A NIGHTMARE, TOO, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY A TWO LANE ROAD THERE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE FRUIT ON THE TREE, I'M LOOKING AT THE FRUIT ON THE TREE.

THERE ISN'T ANY.

ALL IT'S GOING TO BE IS WE'RE GOING TO GET THE BAD END OF THE DEAL AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO GET THEIR MONEY.

THANK YOU. I AM GREG BOE.

I'M AT 1050 EMERALD ROAD, RIGHT AT THE CORNER THERE.

I JUST. I'M SORRY.

I'M A LITTLE NOT USED TO TALKING TO THE COMMITTEE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND YOUR TIME, AND ESPECIALLY THE VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE LIVING HERE AND RETIRING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICES AND THANK YOU TO THE CONTRACTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE SERVICING HOMES, MAKING OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.

WOULD YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.

BUT I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THIS IS A DEAD END NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE THAT.

BUT, SIR, YOU'VE GOT TO STAY AT THE MICROPHONE.

BUT IT'S CALLED WHISPERING.

WHISPERING PINES. IT'S A SMALL, QUIET COMMUNITY.

YES. AND IT WAS IN THE SIXTIES WHEN THEY SCALED IT OUT AND STUFF.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT.

DUMPING ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT ON THAT STREET.

IT DESTROYS.

FOR DECADES. I MEAN, I HAD MY FIRST BEER AS A KID, RIGHT? RIGHT DOWN THE STREET IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I SPECIFICALLY LIVED AND MOVED INTO THAT DEAD END NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I FELT LIKE I COULD CONTROL LIVING IN A CORNER HOUSE.

I COULD PUT CAMERAS, I COULD MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE AROUND ME ARE SAFE.

AND BY DOING THIS, I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE.

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AND AS WE'RE APPROACHING FISCAL BUBBLE, DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT ON YOU AS PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY GIVE UP YOUR FREE TIME WITH YOUR FAMILIES? FOR OUR COMMUNITY, I APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.

AND I JUST IT BREAKS MY HEART BECAUSE I KNOW THE PASTOR AND I HEAR THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE PASTOR AND BOOING.

BUT I WAS A KID AND I WENT TO ZION BEFORE IT CHANGED TO CENTER POINT.

I SAW THE PAIN THAT THAT CHURCH WENT THROUGH AND I KNOW THE PAIN THAT THEY'RE STILL GOING THROUGH.

BUT THERE HAS TO BE A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

THERE HAS TO BE. THEY NEED PARKING.

THEY HAVE LAND.

MAKE THE PARKING HAPPEN.

THAT'S SO MUCH EASIER THAN BUILDING A HIGH RISE IN ENCAPSULATING A COMMUNITY.

WITH A LOWER INCOME COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE 50, 60, 70, 80 YEARS OLD, THAT HAVE SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO WAR AND STILL LIVE IN THESE HOUSES.

I KNOW THESE PEOPLE.

AND 30 SECONDS. IT BREAKS MY HEART TO HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE HERE SAYING, PLEASE, NO.

AND IT'S STILL A POSSIBILITY.

THAT BREAKS MY HEART AND.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR PALM BAY.

I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH LAND WEST AND EAST TO DEVELOP.

IF THINGS ARE REALLY NOT A BUBBLE, THEN THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT SHOULD BE PUSHING.

WE SHOULDN'T BE SAYING, HEY, THERE'S BUS STOP.

THANK YOU.

I'M STEVE LEACHMAN.

I LIVE AT 942 DOUGLAS STREET, PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE THE AREA IS GOING TO BE.

CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF THIS GOES THROUGH.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND FLOODING AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND EVEN THE MORATORIUM WAS MENTIONED BRIEFLY BEFORE WE STARTED.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T THINK THAT'S BROUGHT UP IS THERE'S A SCHOOL BUS DROP OFF AT DOUGLAS AND EMERSON AND THOSE KIDS GET OFF AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM WALK.

AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE STREETS OVER THERE, THEY'RE CALLED LOW DENSITY.

WELL, THEY'RE BASICALLY A LANE AND A HALF.

THAT'S ABOUT IT. YOU CAN'T DRIVE TWO CARS DOWN THERE AT THE SAME TIME, PARTICULARLY IF YOU HAVE ANY MAINTENANCE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD.

BASICALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF MORE TRAFFIC WITH THIS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, APARTMENT COMPLEX.

AND THAT'S GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL DANGERS TO CHILDREN GOING TO AND FROM THE SCHOOL BUS.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.

THEY WALK ON THE STREET.

I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU DO ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL LAND USE AND, YOU KNOW, BREAK THE MORATORIUM OR WHATEVER YOU'RE CONSIDERING DOING HERE.

I MEAN, WE'RE ALL FOR ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM TAXES.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THERE'S BEEN THREE HOUSES BUILT IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS JUST WEST OF ME.

AND THE SALE OF THOSE HOUSES WENT FROM ALMOST 300,000 TO OVER 300,000.

AND THE THIRD HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT WAS 400,000.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN TELL ME THAT ADDING THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GOING TO ADD TO THE PROPERTY VALUES OF WHERE WE LIVE.

SO YOU'VE GOT PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH I JUST TOUCHED ON, BUT PRIMARILY YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE KIDS WALKING OVER AND KIDS DO NOT PAY ATTENTION WHEN THEY'RE WALKING.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR PHONES OR TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE GOING TO STEP OUT IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S CAR.

THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH TRAFFIC NOW, BUT YOU ADD THESE ADDITIONAL APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC AND DEFINITELY SOME ISSUES WITH KIDS POSSIBLY GETTING HURT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL SITE? WHAT? YES.

SIR, DID YOU FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD? SPOKE. HELLO.

I'M NOT REALLY GOOD AT PUBLIC SPEAKING.

SO MY NAME IS EDWARD BARLOW, 1051 DOUGLAS STREET, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE AND WENT AWAY FOR 21 YEARS.

CAME BACK AND PART OF SANDPOINT.

DO I AGREE WITH THIS PROJECT? NO. THERE'S A FEW THINGS I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME.

I THINK YOUR. YOUR PROPOSAL WAS THE BEST.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS AND THERE ARE PLACES OUT THERE IN PORT MALABAR THAT HAD THE EMERGENCY EXIT IN BACK WHERE THEY CAN'T GO BACK OUT.

AND THAT CONNECTS UP TO WHAT THAT ONE GENTLEMAN PLACED.

CONNECT ROAD. THAT PLACE IS A SUBDIVISION.

HERE'S MY BIG CONCERN FLOODING MY NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODS ALREADY PALM BAY JUST CAME OUT IN T.K.

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AND IT LOOKS RIDICULOUS.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN'T ARGUE ABOUT IT.

MY NEIGHBOR'S NEXT DOOR, THEY FLOOD.

EVERYBODY FLOODS IN THAT AREA.

IF YOU PUT MORE PARKING AND ASPHALT THERE, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE NO PLACE TO DRAIN OFF THE WATER DOWN THE ROAD.

THERE'S A ST JOHN'S MANAGEMENT AREA.

IT'S BEING SOLD.

OKAY. IF THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED.

WE ARE NOW BEING SURROUNDED BY DEVELOPMENT.

WHERE'S THE WATER GOING TO GO? AND DON'T SAY THAT.

WELL, WE HAVE DITCHES, WE HAVE THIS, WE HAVE THAT.

THEY GET THEY GET CLOGGED UP ALL THE TIME.

YOU KNOW THAT AS WELL AS I DO.

IT'S CLOGGED UP THERE BY THE FOOD BANK.

THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. THE FOOD BANK FOR THIS OTHER ROAD, IF THEY REALLY WANT TO PUT IT, WHY CAN'T THEY RUN IT THROUGH THERE? THE FOOD BANKS CLOSED NOW.

RIGHT. RUN IT THROUGH THERE.

RUN IT THROUGH CENTER POINT. THERE'S ALREADY A TEMPORARY ROAD THERE FOR PHASE ONE, IS THERE NOT? THERE'S A ROAD THERE ALREADY.

USE THAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT OUT TO HIM AT ALL.

SO THE FLOODING, THE KIDS, THE TRAFFIC, THE PLACE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE SIXTIES.

WE KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S NO BIGGIE.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS, VERY FEW STREETLIGHTS.

SO THE KIDS ARE WALKING AND AND I SEE HIM EVERY DAY.

I'M A LETTER CARRIER.

I SEE THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

KIDS ARE LIKE THIS. THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HIT THEM.

THEY WANT TO BE HIT.

I'M GOING TO SUE YOU.

THAT'S HOW THEY THINK. THAT'S HOW A KIDS THOUGHT PROCESS WORKS.

HECK, HALF THE PARENTS THINK THAT WAY.

NOW I'M SAYING DO NOT BUILD THIS PLACE.

OR IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE IT, GO WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS? CONTINUE ON WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL THESE GOING UP HERE AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TWO STOREY APARTMENTS.

THEN YOU CAN HAVE THREE STOREY APARTMENTS.

WHAT'S NEXT? TAKE US OUT AND BUILD ANOTHER SUBDIVISION.

I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING ON? ONE, TWO, THREE.

JUST STACKING THEM UP ON TOP OF US.

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT YOU, IT'S NOT YOU.

IT'S OVER HERE. AND I UNDERSTAND CENTREPOINT IS HAVING THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS. I DO. I UNDERSTAND 100%.

THERE'S OTHER WAYS THEY CAN SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

SELL IT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS.

BREAK THE LOTS UP.

I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU SPECIFICALLY.

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

I KNOW WHAT YOU REPRESENT.

THAT'S THIS TIME. OKAY.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU HAD A GREAT POINT.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL TO ADD.

AND TODD HAIR AT 1021 EMERALD ROAD SOUTHEAST.

AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.

I'M GOING TO APPEAL TO YOU BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I, WE JUST PAID OUR HOUSE OFF THIS YEAR AND.

WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR 17 YEARS.

WE JUST PUT A $40,000 ROOF ON OUR HOUSE BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE OUR FOREVER HOUSE.

WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO STAY THERE.

WE WERE DEBATING WHETHER TO JUST PUT A CHEAP ROOF ON IT AND GET OUT OF THERE, BUT WE DECIDED, NO, WE'RE GOING TO STAY THERE BECAUSE WE LOVE THE LOCATION WHILE THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO TURN OUR HOUSE IN AN UNDESIRABLE LOCATION.

YOU CAN'T TELL ME.

YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE ME THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ARGUMENTS IN THE PARKING LOT THAT'S 50 FEET AWAY FROM OUR HOUSE.

YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE ME THAT THE LIGHTS FROM THE PARKING LOT AREN'T GOING TO SHINE IN OUR BEDROOM AT NIGHT.

YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE ME THAT THE NOISE OF SOMEBODY COMING HOME FROM PARTY AND AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING, COMING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT, BLARING THE RADIO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN OUR HOUSE AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING.

SO THE PROJECT, YES, I GET ALL THE IMPACT OF THE CITY AND THE DRAINAGE BECAUSE WE LIVE AT THE LOWEST POINT OF EMERALD ROAD.

AND WHEN IT FLOODS, IT FLOODS.

WHEN WE HAVE A BIG RAIN EVENT, IT COMES UP TO WITHIN TWO FEET OF OUR HOUSE.

WE HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THE THING THAT'S GOING TO BOTHER ME THE MOST IS THE PERSONAL IMPACT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON US WHEN WE LOOK OUT OUR BACK.

I DON'T MIND PUTTING MORE HOUSES BACK THERE, BUT THREE BEDROOMS RIGHT THERE LOOKING IN MY HOUSE.

WHEN WE WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, GO OUT ON THE PORCH AND YOU GOT SOMEBODY ON THEIR BALCONY LOOKING AT OUR HOUSE FROM THREE STORIES UP.

IT'S GOING TO HURT. IT'S GOING TO HURT.

AND THE PROPERTY VALUE.

YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT THE PROPERTY VALUE IS NOT GOING TO GO DOWN.

IT HAS TO. NOBODY'S GOING TO LOOK FOR A HOUSE AND THEY WANT THEY WANT THE ONE I WANT THE ONE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THAT'S THREE STORIES RIGHT THERE IN YOUR BACKYARD.

THAT'S THE ONE I WANT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH IT, BUT WE'RE PRAYING IN PART ABOUT IT, WHETHER WE NEED TO MOVE NOW OR NOT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WORST NEWS WE COULD HAVE HAD. WE CAME BACK FROM VACATION AND HAD A LETTER IN OUR MAILBOX.

IT'S LIKE, YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME.

SO WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, JUST TAKE EVERYBODY INTO CONSIDERATION NOT JUST THE MONEY, NOT JUST THE IMPACT ON THE CITY, BUT THE PERSONAL LIVES THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

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I LIVE AT 1240 EMERSON DRIVE NORTHEAST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MALABAR.

I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE TRAFFIC ON EMERSON.

WE LIVE ON EMERSON AND BECAUSE OF PINEAPPLE GROVE, WHICH IS FINE, I'M GLAD THAT SCHOOL IS THERE, BUT WE HAVE BACK TO BACK TRAFFIC ALL DAY LONG.

IT'S NOT. ONLY 35 MILES AN HOUR.

IT'S NOT 40 MILES AN HOUR.

IT'S 50 MILES AN HOUR.

AND WHEN WE HAVE UNITS THAT NEED TO GET TO THE PEOPLE ON EMERSON, THEY CAN'T GET TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S SO BACKED UP WITH TRAFFIC.

THAT'S 350 CARS THAT GO INTO PINEAPPLE GROVE.

THOSE CARS ARE OUT ON OUR STREET.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THESE PEOPLE.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK.

ALSO, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE APARTMENTS? APARTMENTS ARE TRANSIENT.

PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT WHEN I WAS A KID.

WELL, WHEN I WAS 18.

19. I CALL THAT A KID.

BUT. IT'S TRANSIENT.

IF THOSE WERE CONDOS, PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY MORTGAGES JUST LIKE THESE PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORTGAGES.

THEY SHOULD BE SMALLER.

IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE FIND VALUE IN, NOT JUST MOVE IN AND SAY, HEY, I'M TIRED OF THIS PLACE.

I'M GOING. THESE PEOPLE HAVE PUT THEIR WHOLE LIFE INTO THEIR HOUSES.

AND I BET YOU ANYTHING, IF THIS WAS GOING INTO ANY ONE OF YOUR BACK YARDS, YOU WOULD NOT BE HAPPY.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT, IS TO BACK THESE PEOPLE UP.

TRAFFIC IS TERRIBLE.

AND WE DID NOT PLAN ON IT.

BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THAT SCHOOL OVER THERE.

BUT THE TRAFFIC IS BUMPER TO BUMPER ALL DAY LONG.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS BRIAN HUMPHRIES.

I LIVE AT NINE, SIX, SEVEN ANIMAL ROAD.

I'M THE LAST HOUSE ON NEXT.

I'M THE LAST GREEN PROPERTY THAT ADJOINS THAT PROPERTY.

AND I'VE BUILT THAT HOUSE IN 2017 KNOWING THAT THE CENTERPOINT CHURCH OWNED THAT PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF ME AND TO THE NORTH OF ME.

AND I WAS PROUD OF THAT BECAUSE I KNEW I'M A CHURCHGOING PERSON, I'M A CHRIST FOLLOWER.

AND I WAS EXPECTING THE CHURCH TO GROW THAT PROPERTY OUT.

I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY WITH THE CHURCH.

SO GROWING THE PROPERTY AND EXPANDING THE CHURCH, USING THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE.

BUT TO SELL IT.

I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLES.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT. BUT FOR THEM TO SELL THAT TO A LOW RESIDENTIAL OR SINGLE FAMILY HOME RESIDENTIAL COMPANY, I WOULD I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE.

IT'S GOING TO HELP THE CHURCH AND PROVIDE LOWER INCOME OR.

LESS TRAFFIC, LESS PROBLEM.

I ALREADY HAVE AN ISSUE LEAVING MY PROPERTY GOING TO WORK I DON'T EVEN GO TO.

I NEVER SEND BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP ANYWHERE.

SO I TAKE THE SIDE STREET TO AVOID THE LIGHT.

WE'RE AT THE DUNKIN DONUTS THERE TO GET AROUND THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE TRAFFIC'S BACKED UP FROM THE FROM THE SOUTH AND IT'S BACKED UP FROM THE WEST.

AND YOU GOT TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE NORTH AT THAT INTERSECTION.

I AVOID THAT TRAFFIC EVERY MORNING, EVERY MORNING GOING TO WORK AND I TURN ON TURN DOWN THE SIDE ROAD TO AVOID THAT LIGHT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS BACKING UP.

I DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET TO THAT LIGHT.

I HAVE A QUICKER PATH ON THAT SIDE ROAD AND I CAN SEE A LOT MORE PEOPLE DOING THE SAME THING.

BUT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT AGREE ON THAT.

THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS SHANI WYNETTE AND I AM A HOMEOWNER OF 99 ONE EMERALD ROAD SOUTHEAST.

MY PROPERTY IS LOCATED DIRECTLY SOUTH ADJACENT OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY HERE.

CURRENTLY ALREADY WITH THE PHASE ONE PROPERTY PROJECT THAT'S GONE IN, WHEN I LOOK OUT MY BACK WINDOW, I'M ALREADY ABLE TO SEE LIGHT POLLUTION FROM MALABAR ROAD WITH WHAT'S GONE THROUGH THE TREES.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD A SIGNIFICANT UPTAKE IN BOTH SOUND POLLUTION FROM THAT ROAD, BUT ALSO DISPLACED WILDLIFE MAKING ITS WAY INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

SINCE THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS HAS STARTED ITS DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO CERTAINLY BY PUTTING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX HERE, I DON'T SEE AT ALL HOW THAT THAT WIDE BUFFER THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS

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THAT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAVE IN MIND THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE A SIGNIFICANT VISUAL BARRIER.

BUT EVEN MORE SO, I WANT TO MENTION THE INFILL TOPIC THAT THEY KEEP TRYING TO TURN THIS BACK TO THAT IT'S NOT SPRAWL, IT'S INFILL.

EITHER WAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY TO DEVELOP IN SOME WAY EVERY SINGLE SQUARE INCH OF LAND THAT IS BETWEEN BOTH.

BUT EITHER WAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT CENTER POINTS PROPERTY, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THAT PROPERTY IN TERMS OF SELLING IT.

THEY SHOULD DO THAT. BUT I AGREE THIS LAND WAS ZONED AND ALLOCATED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOR A REASON, BECAUSE EVEN AT THAT TIME THEY COULD SEE THAT IT'S WHAT MADE THE MOST SENSE.

AND NOW, 50 YEARS LATER, WHATEVER, HAVING THREE TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE, THAT DOES NOT CHANGE.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT THEY CONTINUOUSLY BRING UP IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING DIVERSIFIED LIVING OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE AS IF IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I THINK EVERYBODY WHO REALLY MOVES TO PALM BAY KNOWS THAT IT'S REALLY NOT CHEAPER TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT.

IT'S JUST LESS BARRIERS TO ENTRY BECAUSE WHAT HAVE YOU, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO MOVE TO PALM BAY HAVE MOVED TO PALM BAY BECAUSE OF ITS RESIDENTIAL AMBIANCE.

MOST OF US MOVED HERE TO ESCAPE SOME OF THESE AREAS IN MELBOURNE THAT ARE HIGHLY CONCENTRATED WITH APARTMENTS AND THINGS ALREADY.

IT'S HONESTLY HAS LONG BEEN DESIGNED AS A SUBURB OF MELBOURNE.

AND YOU KNOW, SAME, I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, I HAVE PLANNED TO RAISE MY OWN CHILDREN THERE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND NOW I.

30 SECONDS. YEAH.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WON'T GO INTO THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT, BUT DEFINITELY 444 UNITS IS TOTAL WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. SO EVEN IF THEY DO FILTER DOWN TO WHATEVER ROAD TRAFFIC, SO I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE YOUR TIME ANYMORE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LISTENING TO US AND HOPEFULLY THE VAST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE HERE AND THE PASSIONATE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE SPEAKING, YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF. SO THANK YOU. WHAT ELSE? OH. MY NAME IS JOE CRAWFORD.

I'M AT 935 DOUGLAS.

ACCORDING TO THE ZONING SURVEY THAT CAME OUT, THERE'S 30 UNITS THAT THEY LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

AND IF THEY REZONE IT FOR 192, DIVIDE 30 AND 190, YOU GET ABOUT SIX TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE AS MUCH TRAFFIC. AND I'M AGAINST THE ZONING AND THE IF IT INCREASES THE TAXATION, JUST REMEMBER WE THE PEOPLE WANT IT KNOW ZONING.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

I'M MARK LOPEZ. COME ON.

NINE, NINE, NINE.

DOUGLAS STREET.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE OUT OF FIRE, SO THEY SPEAK, WE'RE NOT REALLY.

BECAUSE IF YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT JUST ONE WAY, I'M GOING TO HAPPEN, DOUGLAS.

GOING TO BE A TURNAROUND.

YOU COULD PUT A FENCE UP, PUT A STOP, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF CLOSING OFF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY BIGGEST THING IS THE ELEVATIONS ARE ALL OFF.

THEY WERE ALL IN 1962.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATIONS AND WHERE THEY WANT TO DO THEIR RUNOFF, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ALREADY IN DANGER FROM THE OVERFLOW.

THE NINE INCHES IS WHAT THEY SAID, THE OVERFLOW FROM THEIR PHASE ONE GOING INTO THE BACK CANAL THAT RUNS DOWN. CULVERT, I BELIEVE.

CAVANI. THE WATER IS.

NINE INCHES WILL PUT IT INTO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.

THEN THEY'RE GOING TO REROUTE IT AROUND.

USING EXISTING.

EXISTING ELEVATIONS THROUGH.

I HAVE MY MATH IN FRONT OF ME.

IT WOULD BE. RAJ.

THE CANAL BEHIND MIRAGE IN BETWEEN EMERSON AND MIRAGE.

AND THEN IT GOES AROUND THE CORNER.

AS IT IS, WE'RE ALREADY DRAINING, IF I REMEMBER, RIGHT FROM ACROSS THE STREET.

THE TWO STORY HOUSE SITS RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF EMERSON.

TWO DOORS IN FROM EMERSON, AND THAT GOES INTO DOUGLAS.

THERE'S A MAJOR DRAIN UNDER THERE.

THERE'S A TEN INCH DRAIN.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THE ENTIRE AREA WOULD NEED TO BE RE.

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WHETHER THEY PUT THIS IN OR NOT.

EVEN AS WE GO THROUGH, WE'RE IN A DANGER ZONE.

WE DIDN'T DO THE DANGER.

WE BUILT IT OUT. THE ELEVATION THAT THE CITY TOLD US TO BUILD THAT.

EACH BUILDER HAS TO GO TO THE CITY AND HERE, GOT TO PUT IT AT THIS LEVEL.

I GOT TO PUT IT AT THAT LEVEL.

SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE EXISTING DRAINS IT ALL THE WAY AROUND, IT'S JUST AN ENORMOUS CONCERN FOR EVERYONE THERE.

AND IT YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU'VE HEARD FLOOD FROM ALMOST EVERYBODY IN HERE, 30 SECONDS.

AND THE REST OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEIR PROJECT IS BEAUTIFUL.

IT'S JUST DOESN'T BELONG HERE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMENTS.

IT'LL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

OH. FOR.

OH, NO.

FILL IT OUT LATER. JUST.

I THOUGHT, IT'S ABOUT THIS, IT'S ABOUT THAT.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE KIDS TO ME.

OH, HEATHER, I.

HEATHER HUMPHREYS. I LIVE AT 967 EMERALD ROAD SOUTHEAST.

FOR ME, IT'S ABOUT THE CHILDREN.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THAT FIRST CATASTROPHE HAPPENS, WHEN THAT CHILD GETS HIT OR RUN OVER? HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR CITY? I MEAN, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE GRIEVING.

IT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US.

AND WHEN THEY SPEAK ABOUT THE KIDS, THEY SPEAK THE TRUTH.

THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

I SEE THEM EVERY DAY ON THEIR PHONE.

MOST OF THEM HAVE HEADPHONES ON.

SO I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE HAVING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COME OUT OF THIS COMPLEX.

I MEAN, I HAVE A SON.

AND THE DANGER THAT THIS CHILD WOULD BE IN IT JUST IT HAUNTS ME AND IT'S TAUNTING.

SO I'M ASKING TO NOT APPROVE THIS FOR THE CHILDREN.

THANK YOU. OK PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED, ITS BACK TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. DO YOU MIND PULLING BACK UP? PATIENT. THANK YOU.

SO I WAS TAKING NOTES BACK THERE.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HIT ON ALL THE POINTS THAT WE HEARD, A LOT OF THEM WE HAD ON EARLIER, BUT WE'LL JUST KIND OF RUN BACK THROUGH THEM.

BUT FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THESE RESIDENTS, MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN TO TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS AT NIGHT IN AN EIGHT DAY PERIOD.

THEY'VE GIVEN US A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

WE DID ONLY HAVE EIGHT DAYS TO PREP SINCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AND WE OUR PRESENTATION WAS CENTERED AROUND WHAT WE HEARD BACK FROM THEM.

SO WE DO TRULY APPRECIATE AND TRULY WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

AND EVERY SINGLE CONCERN THEY BROUGHT UP IS GOING TO BE THE SUCCESS OR THE NOT SUCCESS OF OUR PROJECT SAFETY TRAFFIC.

THE BUS STOP THE BUFFERING.

OUR PROJECT WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL UNLESS WE CAN HELP ALLEVIATE AND FIX THESE CONCERNS.

SO EVERYTHING WE HEARD FROM THEM IS EVERYTHING THAT GOES RIGHT BACK INTO OUR PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN.

THE ONLY WAY OUR PROJECT COULD BE SUCCESSFUL IS IF WE CAN HELP ALLEVIATE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. SO GOING DOWN THE LIST OF THINGS THAT I HEARD, TREES REMOVING TREES, PHASE ONE WITH THE APARTMENTS WAS A HIGHER DENSITY, HAD MORE UNITS.

WE DID CLEAR IT.

IT WAS MOSTLY NEXT TO A COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USE AND WE HAD THAT LARGE WETLAND AREA THAT WE PRESERVED.

THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT, MUCH, MUCH LESS INTENSE, MUCH MORE GREEN SPACE, A LOT MORE TREE PRESERVATION.

AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, AND YOU SAW THE IMAGES THAT WE CREATED.

WHERE THE LINE. SO THE LINE OF SIGHT FROM THE TOP OF THE BUILDING TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE WITH THE EXISTING TREES AND ADDITIONAL PLANT TREES, THAT'S AS MUCH OF A CONCERN FOR US AS WE KNOW IT IS FOR THEM.

AS THE NEIGHBORS.

WE HAVE 75 FEET OF BUFFER AREA TO THE EAST AND A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET TO THE SOUTH.

THE BUS STOP AT EMERSON AND THE OTHER ONE AT DOUG WAS TWO OF THEM AT COPLEY AND DOUGLAS.

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WE TEND TO HAVE FAMILIES HERE.

THESE FAMILIES WOULD ALSO BE GOING TO THESE SAME BUS STOPS.

SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP IMPROVE THAT SAFETY WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE'LL DO AS PART OF OUR PROJECT.

GOING BACK TO THE FLOODING, WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ABOUT EXISTING FLOODING ISSUES THAT THEY HAD.

WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THEM, ALL OF THEM.

AND SO WHAT WHAT YOU SEE HERE AND YOU GUYS SEE A LOT OF SIGHT PLANTS, ALL OF THAT BLUE IS A MIX OF PRESERVATION AND STORMWATER TREATMENT.

THE MIDDLE ONE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS IS GOING TO BE A WET POND.

THE OTHER ONE AROUND TOWARDS THE EAST THERE OR THE EXIT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL BE PROBABLY DRY RETENTION.

SO THAT'S MASSIVE TREE PRESERVATION AND DRY RETENTION THAT WILL PERCOLATE BACK INTO THE SOILS.

WE FAR EXCEED WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE BY THE STATE AND THE CITY FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND WE WON'T LET ANY WATER GO TO THE EAST, WHICH IS SOME OF THE PROBLEM AREAS IN THE PAST OR TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTHEAST.

SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE HEARD AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO HELP ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM.

THE ACCESS POINTS, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT HIT WITH SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS OUR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE KNEW IT WAS AN IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT ITEM OF CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS.

EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR PROJECT.

AS I SAID EARLIER, I DID HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE CHARTER SCHOOL, TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMAL, DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS.

CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE EVERYBODY COMING AND GOING WITHOUT BUSSES TYPICALLY.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT.

I HEARD EIGHT DAYS AGO AND HEARD TONIGHT.

WHY CAN'T IT BE SINGLE FAMILY? JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

IT'S BEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND UNDEVELOPED, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY COULD COME IN ANY DAY AND EITHER BUY IT OR DEVELOP IT.

IF IT IS SINGLE FAMILY.

THE BUFFERS WOULD LIKELY GO AWAY.

YOU'D HAVE BACKYARDS RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

EVERY SINGLE TRIP IN AND OUT OF THAT SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION GOES TO EMERALD, ITS ONLY ACCESS POINT.

IT WOULD NOT GO THROUGH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE NORTH, WHICH IF WE COMPLY WITH WHAT STEPH TOLD US TODAY, OUR DAILY TRAFFIC WOULD ONLY GO NORTH AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE TRAFFIC WOULD GO ON TO EMERALD IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE END UP DOING.

ALSO, SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS WOULD HAVE LESS STORMWATER TYPICALLY AS WE DESIGN THEM ALL THE TIME.

AND SO JUST SOMETHING CONSIDER IF IF YOU DO WANT SOMETHING ELSE, THERE'S OTHER FACTORS TO CONSIDER WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

AS FAR AS LIGHTING GOES, THE BUFFER HELPS.

WE ALSO DO A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT ALL THE LIGHTING IS SHIELDED AND SHINES AWAY SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY LIGHT.

WE WOULD SHOW THAT THERE'S ZERO LIGHTING COMING OFF OUR PROPERTY.

THE VISUAL AND PHYSICAL BUFFERS WE TALKED ABOUT IN DETAIL AND I JUST BROUGHT UP THAT SLIDE.

I TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, AND THEN THE LAST WOMAN SPOKE VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT JUST SAFETY.

IT'S NOT SAFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

WE WANT IT TO BE SAFE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE.

AND WE WE WANT TO BE SAFE FOR OUR PROJECT AS WELL.

SO, AGAIN, WE DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALL THEIR TIME AND ALL THE INPUT AND THIS PROCESS OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HEARD SOME ADDITIONAL NEW ITEMS TONIGHT, AND THEN WE HAVE THIS CRITERIA THAT WE HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE TWO AGENDA ITEMS WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO TABLE BOTH SO THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AGAIN, TAKE INTO WITH MORE TIME THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS.

WE ONLY HAD EIGHT DAYS FOR THIS MEETING.

IF WE CAN TABLE IT FOR ONE MONTH, WE'LL HAVE AN ENTIRE 30 DAYS TO TAKE MORE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS AGAIN AND THE NEW INFORMATION WE HAVE. AND SO THAT IS OUR REQUEST OF THE BOARD FOR BOTH OF THE TWO ITEMS TONIGHT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE.

WE DO A MOTION, BUT I WANT A STAFF.

WOULD WE BE ABLE TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE DECEMBER 7TH MEETING? YES, WE CAN. IN THAT CASE, MOTION TO TABLE CP 39 2022 TO THE DECEMBER 7TH PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IF IT'S OKAY, I KNOW YOU JUST MADE A MOTION IF THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD, WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT INPUT AS WELL. JAKE.

JAKE, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THEN.

IT SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONCERN WITH EVEN WITH YOUR PROJECT, WITH THE CHILDREN CATCHING BUSSES.

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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD LOOKS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

THEY ALSO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY, GOING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, GOING THROUGH APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

THEY TYPICALLY WOULDN'T, BUT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT.

WE'LL LOOK AT BUS STOP SAFETY AS WELL, ACCESS TO IT.

ALL OF THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT.

A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

THANK YOU. HERE.

THEY'RE NOT HERE IN A SECOND.

ON THE MOTION, I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE QUESTIONING.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR MR. WISE, IF I MAY.

OKAY. SIR, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF SIDEBAR CONVERSATIONS.

I'LL ASK STAFF TO BRING US UP TO SPEED FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE IN A MOMENT.

BUT WITHIN THOSE SIDEBAR CONVERSATIONS, I'M SURE THAT YOU FIGURED OUT THAT YOU HAVE SOME WORK AHEAD OF YOU AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING TO CONTINUE AND UNDERSTOOD.

I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETINGS ARE NOW REQUIRED BEFORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPLICATION TO ADDRESS EXACTLY THIS, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT AT TIMELINE.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED THAT FUTURE APPLICATIONS WON'T PUT YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THIS BIND.

I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THE CITY TOOK THE TIME TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

NOW, THAT BEING SAID, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, GRANTED THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CONTINUE.

BUT WITH WITH THAT, GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

IF WE'RE TO DEEM EXIT AND ENTRY ON TO EMERALD AS EMERGENCY USE ONLY, THAT'S VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.

BUT THEN YOU ALSO DID REFER TO YOUR RESIDENTS USING THE BUS STOPS.

WELL, IF THEY'RE TO USE THE BUS STOPS, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT YOU'RE OPEN TO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT FROM WHAT I HEARD, THIS IS MY ASSESSMENT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T OPEN TO EITHER PASSING THROUGH AND THAT THE GATE BACK THERE WOULD LITERALLY BE THE FIRE STATION CAN GET IN THE RESIDENTS SOME SORT OF WAY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUTTON THEY CAN PUSH, A BIG RED BUTTON THEY CAN GET OUT BECAUSE THINGS ARE BURNING.

AND OBVIOUSLY NOBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD MIND THEM FLOODING THE STREETS AT THAT POINT.

BUT THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC WILL STILL BE A HANGING POINT TO ME AND MOST LIKELY THE RESIDENTS, IF IT DOES COME BACK, THAT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE PASSING THROUGH BECAUSE IF THERE'S PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT'S ABLE TO PASS THROUGH TO THE SOUTH, THEN THEREFORE THERE IS SOME THAT'S ABLE TO PASS THROUGH THE NORTH.

AND NOW NEXT THING YOU KNOW, NOT ALL OF OUR CONCERNS ABOUT SECLUDING THIS AND CUTTING IT OFF TO THIS.

I BELIEVE A RESIDENT REFERRED TO AS THE WHISPERING PINES NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RESULT OF COMING BACK WITH THAT GATE BEING EMERGENCY ONLY IS NOT TRUE IF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS OPEN.

SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT WITHIN YOUR CONSIDERATION AND MAYBE YOU'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED THAT, THAT YOU WOULD STAVE OFF PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AS VEHICULAR.

THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHER HIGHLIGHTED ITEMS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

SO, MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND? NO, YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND.

OKAY. WE NEED TO MOVE THE MOTION AND WE NEED TO STICK TO THE PLAN.

RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT ON THE ZONING BOARD.

WE'RE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MOTION IN THE SECOND TO TABLE IT TO THE DECEMBER MEETING.

MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THAT MOTION, I'D LIKE TO HEAR STAFF'S ASSERTION AS TO WHY THIS IS NECESSARY, BECAUSE THERE WAS MULTIPLE SIDEBAR CONVERSATIONS THAT OCCURRED AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP TO SPEED AS TO WHAT HAPPENED.

UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CLARIFICATION.

FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHY ARE THEY ASKING TO CONTINUE? I THINK WE KIND OF KNOW THAT.

BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE, WHY IS IT JUSTIFIABLE? WHY NOT JUST MOVE FORWARD? IF THIS BOARD GIVES A RECOMMENDATION, THEY CAN.

THEY CAN SHORE UP THEIR PLANS AND WITH WITH OUR WITH OUR RESTRICTIONS.

IF WE WERE TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION WITH RESTRICTIONS, THEY COULD SHORE THAT UP AHEAD OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.

SO WHY DRAW UP ANOTHER P AND Z MEETING AND PUSH THINGS OUT AND HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC FORUM THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE TO COME TO TO FEEL REPRESENTED? THAT IS THE REQUEST THAT THEY HAVE PUT BEFORE THE BOARD.

ONLY AS A DIRECT RESULT OF HAVING SIDEBAR CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF.

SO I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW HOW THE CONCLUSION GOT REACHED.

IS THAT THE MOST FEASIBLE SOLUTION, BECAUSE I SEE A FEASIBLE SOLUTION, IS MOVING FORWARD AND THEN FIGURING THESE THINGS OUT AND GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THAT LEAVES THESE FOLKS THE ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TO COME TO BE REPRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC FORUM, TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

IF WE CONTINUE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO HERE ANY OTHER FURTHER ARGUMENTS, SEE EVERYTHING REASSESS, AND THEN HAVE TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL.

WE'LL HAVE TO RECONSIDER THE WHOLE CASE.

MADAM CHAIR, IF THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED ON THE RECORD WHY HE HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OR TO PULL THIS ISSUE, YOU HAVE A MOTION, YOU HAVE A SECOND.

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I'M GOING TO CALL MACIEJEWSKI OLSZEWSKI.

I'M SORRY. MR. OLSZEWSKI IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH IT.

HE CAN ALWAYS VOTE.

RIGHT? WELL, SIR, I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR COUNSEL FROM THE STAFF.

I HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT TO INFORM MY VOTE, DON'T I, MR. ATTORNEY? YOU WERE GIVEN THAT INFORMATION BY THE APPLICANT.

HE TOLD YOU EXACTLY WHY HE WANTED TO CONTINUE IT.

THERE'S A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT.

AND THERE'S ALSO A SECOND.

WE NEED TO CARRY THE MOTION IN SECOND.

NOTED, SIR, CALLING FOR A VOTE.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND BY MS..

MAHARAJ. ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS TO THE DECEMBER BOARD MEETING? I OPPOSED NAY.

WE NEED TO VOTE TO TABLE THE NEXT ONE ALSO.

I NEED A MOTION TO TABLE CPC 39 2022 THROUGH THE DECEMBER BOARD MEETING.

SO MOVED. POSTED IN A SECOND BY MS..

MIRAGE. ALL IN FAVOR? I POSED.

NAY. CABLING THEORIES.

SO, MRS. ALEX, YOU WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT? I DID. I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE HAVING OUR SECOND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORKSHOP IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON NOVEMBER 10TH AT 6 P.M..

THAT WILL BE HOSTED BY OUR CONSULTANT SIMONE TO GO OVER THE FINAL STEPS OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THAT'LL BE OUR FINAL WORKSHOP AND I WOULD INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT CASE, TX 65, 2022 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED.

I'M SORRY. THE DATE.

WHAT'S YOUR DATE? DECEMBER 7TH.

DECEMBER TEN, P&G FOR PNC OR FOR PNC IS DECEMBER SEVEN FOR THIS? FOR THE FOR.

YES, FOR THE PNC MEETING.

DECEMBER 7TH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.