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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:04]

I LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 16, 2022.

IT'S 1:01 P.M..

MY NAME IS JAMES BEADLE.

I'M THE PERSON THAT'S BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTION AND CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS.

THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS, IS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN TO ESTABLISH A BASIS TO HAVE THE LIEN REDUCED, AND AS SUCH THE APPLICANT WILL COME UP AND PRESENT THEIR CASE AND THEN THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND.

AND THEN ONCE THE CITY GIVES THEIR TESTIMONY, THEN THE APPLICANT CAN REFUTE OR ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE CITY'S EVIDENCE.

THAT'S THE GENERAL PROCEDURE FOR PRESENTATION.

ANYONE THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.

[SWEARING IN]

SO THE CLERK IS GOING TO SWEAR EVERYBODY AND THAT'S GOING TO TESTIFY.

PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD.

THANK YOU. MAYBE. OUR FIRST CASE TO BE HEARD TODAY IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE

[PETITION FOR RELIEF]

AGENDA. IT'S KB 18897, DASH ONE EIGHT AND CB 2277322 AT 841 ROSTOCK CIRCLE, NORTHEAST.

YOU COME. MY NAME IS NATHANIEL COCHRANE AND THE NEW OWNER OF 841 ROSTOCK.

AND WE HAVE A FEW PICTURES HERE AND AND DOCUMENTS PROVING THAT AS WELL.

WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR A LITTLE LEAN REDUCTION OF WHAT WAS POSTED.

OKAY. WHAT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE BASIS FOR THE REQUEST AND AND WHAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE SEEKING TO HAVE IT REDUCED TO? WE RECTIFIED ALL OF THE THE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED AND WE'RE PREPARED TO CLOSE OUT ALL OF THESE CASES HERE.

YEAH. YEAH.

SO I'M JUST HERE TO.

WITH A LEAN REDUCTION.

WHAT AMOUNT OF LEAN REDUCTION? AT COST.

SO THESE. ELLERY REPRESENTS CODE COMPLIANCE SUPERVISOR.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST SPEAKING TO GENIE, MR. BEETLE. BECAUSE WE HAVE A REPAIR AGREEMENT.

BUT. SAYING YOU FIXED ALL THE VIOLATIONS ALREADY? YEAH, WE HAD ALREADY FIXED THAT BEFORE I EVEN SEEN THE REPAIR AGREEMENT.

I THINK I JUST RECEIVED THE REPAIR AGREEMENT YESTERDAY.

IS THE REPAIR AGREEMENT NOT SO YOU GOT THE FENCE PERMIT? ONE OR THE SITE SURVEY.

WE THE FENCE WAS HAD ALREADY IT HAD A FEW PANELS.

IT WAS ALREADY REPAIRED EVEN BEFORE BECAUSE ONE OF THE CASES IS FOR FAILURE TO OBTAIN A FENCE PERMIT.

AND THE OTHER ONE WAS EXTERIOR PAINT, EXTERIOR PREMISES, PARKING AND A CFO AND WATER SUPPLY.

DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.

SO WHAT IS THE REPAIR AGREEMENT FOR? YEAH. YEAH. SO THE CITY'S ONE CASE HAS TO DO JUST WITH NOT HAVING A FENCE PERMIT.

YOU APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED THE FENCE PERMIT? OH, WE HAVE NOT APPLIED BECAUSE THE FENCE, WHEN WE.

WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY DIDN'T.

IT HAD LIKE ONE OR TWO SMALL PANELS THAT WERE.

YEAH. WELL THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THE CITY IS TALKING ABOUT.

THE VIOLATION WASN'T THE DISREPAIR OF THE FENCE PER SE.

IT WAS THE FACT THAT WHOEVER THE PERSON WAS THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY BEFORE YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY NEVER GOT A PERMIT.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WE CAN PUT IN A FENCE PERMIT AFTER THE FACT.

APPLICATION FOR A FENCE PERMIT.

OKAY. OKAY.

WE COULD DO THAT. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS REPAIR AGREEMENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS.

IT WASN'T THAT THE FENCE WASN'T NEEDED, QUOTE UNQUOTE.

RIGHT. THE VIOLATION WAS THAT THERE WAS NEVER AN APPLICATION FOR A FENCE PERMIT.

OKAY. SO, MR. BEADLE, I GUESS THE CONFUSION NORMALLY.

AS THESE CASES. BOTH CASES ARE ACTIVE, THEY'RE NOT COMPLIED.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE REPAIR AGREEMENT WAS FOR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WHAT HE'S SAYING.

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I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN CARE OF FOR THE FENCE APPLICATION.

FENCE PERMIT. THAT'S VIOLATION STILL IN EFFECT.

SO YOU STILL NEED TO DO THE REPAIR AGREEMENT, AT LEAST AS FAR AS THAT, AT LEAST FOR THE THE THE FENCE.

THE OTHER THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING EVERYTHING'S DONE UNTIL THE CITY SIGNS OFF ON IT? IT'S NOT DONE. OKAY.

PURPOSES OF CONSIDERING.

RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU REVIEWED THE I HAVE DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT'S IN HERE? WELL, THE ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND TRASH AND DEBRIS IS.

NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING, DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM THERE SAYING THESE THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF? YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES? I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES TAKING CARE OF THEM.

LIKE I SAID, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ALREADY COMPLETED.

YEAH, YEAH. AND I'M NOT ARGUING.

YOU LOOK GOOD. I'M JUST WHAT I'M TRYING TO SET UP IS YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO DO WHAT'S IN THE REPAIR AGREEMENT.

I'M JUST ASKING YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH WHAT THE VIOLATIONS ARE THAT ARE LISTED IN HERE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF? NO, I UNDERSTAND.

YOU'RE SAYING YOU TOOK CARE OF MOST OF THEM.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT THE IDEA IS, IS THIS REPAIR AGREEMENT GIVES YOU THE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE STILL PENDING.

OKAY. IT ALSO GIVES THE CITY TIME TO GO OFF AND SIGN OFF ON ALL THIS.

GOTCHA. RIGHT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY PURPOSE FOR THIS THING, RIGHT? IS TO GIVE YOU TIME TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR UP THE FACT THAT THE ONE VIOLATION IS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO GET THE PERMIT.

THE PROBLEM? YOU JUST GET THE PERMIT, RIGHT? WE WERE UNAWARE THAT CERTIFICATE WAS ACTUALLY REVOKED.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A NEWS TO ME.

THAT'S WHY THIS IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH GETTING THE PAPERWORK RIGHT.

FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT ANYWAY.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS GIVE YOU TIME TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THAT'S ALSO LISTED IN THE REPAIR AGREEMENT.

UM, NATHANIEL, IN THE VERY LAST SENTENCE, SAYS THAT THE USE OF STRUCTURE OR LAND WITHOUT THE REQUIRED CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

SO THAT'S BEEN REVOKED FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

THE FRONT PAGE WHERE IT SAYS, WHEREAS THAT BIG GROUP WERE TALKING ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS.

WHY WAS THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY REVOKED EXACTLY FOR NO WATER SUPPLY? THERE IS WATER SUPPLY, THOUGH I STILL HAVE TO GET A REISSUE.

IT'S A PAPERWORK. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. GOTCHA. YEAH.

HOW IT WORKS. YOU GOT TO. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO IT.

EIGHT IN. THAT'S THAT'S THE THING. SO THE FENCE PART OF IT JUST REQUIRES A SITE SURVEY.

NOW, IT NO LONGER REQUIRES A PERMIT.

THIS IS RESIDENTIAL, CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. SO THAT'S THAT'S DONE PRETTY MUCH WITHIN ONE DAY.

DOESN'T COST ANYTHING.

YOU JUST HAVE TO GO TO LAND DEVELOPMENT WITH YOUR SURVEY, SHOW THEM WHERE THE FENCE IS, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

THAT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAVE REISSUED.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE UTILITIES, ACTIVE UTILITIES AGAIN.

AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO DONE WITHIN A DAY OR TWO.

SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING MAJOR.

AND THEN IF YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF ALL THE OTHER VIOLATIONS AS FAR AS THE EXTERIOR, THE TRASH, THE THE VEHICLE PARKING.

AND THE PAINT.

CAN I SHOW YOU THE PICTURES HERE OF JUST TODAY? OKAY. YEAH.

YOU HAVE TO GO DO HIS INSPECTION.

THIS PART HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.

YEAH, RIGHT. I'M ONLY HERE TO HEAR ABOUT THE REDUCTIONS.

EVERY CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT COMPLIANCE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

TIMELINE FOR YOU. BY FRIDAY.

YEAH, I WOULD THINK YOU WOULDN'T NEED MORE THAN 30 DAYS.

YEAH, I'M TRYING TO DO IT THIS WEEK.

SO IF YOU'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THE PHYSICAL PART OF IT, RIGHT, IT'S A MATTER OF US INSPECTING AND THEN GETTING THE C OF O AND THE SITE SURVEY.

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THAT CAN ALL BE DONE WITHIN A WEEK.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD. AND NEXT WEEK WE'RE CLOSED THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.

WEDNESDAY. HOW CAN WE HOW CAN WE DO IT WHERE IT COULD BE EXPEDITED? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM AGAIN.

I'M ONLY. RIGHT.

RIGHT. DOES IT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD? SORRY, MR. BEADLE CAN JUST PUT A DATE ON IT.

YOU NEED TO PUT A DATE IN HERE.

ALL RIGHT, SO JUST PUT IT FOR NEXT WEEK.

I'M GOING TO FIGHT WITH YOU.

I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY NOVEMBER 27TH.

THAT'S FOLLOWING MONDAY.

AFTER. 28TH.

AT THE END OF. THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S ALL I NEED. IF.

IF IT'S ALL PAPERWORK, I'M JUST GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY, THEN THAT'S FINE.

JUST HAS TO PUT SOMETHING.

BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT DONE, THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.

RIGHT? YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW ME.

I DON'T WANT TO KNOW. I'M TRYING TO GET THIS KNOCKED UP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, WE'RE NOT DONE YET.

OKAY. AND SO WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION REGARDING THE FINE? THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT LIENS ON HERE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE INTEREST TACKED ON TO THIS BECAUSE IT WAS AN ACTIVE CASE.

I DON'T. THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN OBJECTION TO JUST CHARGING THE ONE TIME $750 PLUS A PERCENTAGE OF EACH LIEN.

SO. THE FIRST LEAD IS ROUGHLY 116,000. UM.

YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU A PERCENTAGE OR JUST A DOLLAR AMOUNT? BECAUSE I HAD SOMETHING ELSE WRITTEN UP.

OF 116.

SEVEN, SEVEN, FIVE.

WE DID 1%.

IT'S OUT TO $1,167.75.

SECOND ONE IS $10,000.

THOUSAND 100 SHOULD SAY.

10% ON THAT ONE.

IT'S $1,010.

AND THEN ADD THE 750 FOR THE ADMIN FEE.

AND JUST. UH, THE 110 FOR THE SECOND CASE.

THOUSAND $10 FOR THE SECOND CASE.

IT WAS $10,100.

AND THE FIRST CASE, WHICH WAS $116,775, 81%, WHICH IS $1,167.75.

PLUS THE 750 ADMIN.

JUST ONCE. ONE ADMIN.

SO ROUGHLY IT COMES OUT.

AND HOW? HOW? WHAT TIME FRAME FOR PAIN? PROBABLY THE ORDER PROVIDES FOR 30 DAYS.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

IT WOULD PROBABLY DO IT BEFORE.

I NEED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A PLAN HERE.

I JUST SOMETIMES I'LL GIVE AN EXTENSION TO SOMEBODY ASKED FOR, BUT NORMALLY IT'S 30 DAYS.

SO THE TOTAL COMES OUT.

WITH BOTH REDUCTIONS AND THE 750 ADMIN TO $2,927.75.

2970. 27.

SEVEN, 75. 75, 27.

BUT THANK YOU. AND IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH GETTING YOUR PAPERWORK DONE, I'M GOING TO BE CALLING VALERIE.

YOU JUST NEED TO CALL HER. OH, YEAH.

OH, YEAH, DEFINITELY. AND.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, FOLKS. VIDEO PROVIDED A COPY.

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OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA AT CB2273022 AT 766 KOOTENAY ROAD SOUTHEAST.

MR. OWEN IS HERE, BUT HE DOES NEED TO BE SWORN IN.

HOW ARE YOU? SO CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO. THANK YOU, SIR.

NO. BASICALLY, THE PROCEDURE IS, IS THAT YOU, AS THE APPLICANT, PRESENT YOUR CASE AS FAR AS WHY YOU WANT THE FINE REDUCED, THEN THE CITY WILL PROVIDE THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY, SO TO SPEAK. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, RESPOND TO WHATEVER THE CITY SAYS.

OKAY. YES, SIR.

THAT RESIDENCE IS OWNED BY ME AND I HAVE MY SONS ACTUALLY RENT IT FROM ME.

AND I NEVER GOT ANY OF THE NOTICES UNTIL I EXPERIENCED SOME HARDSHIP.

AND I WENT TO REFINANCE WITH MY EQUITY IN THE HOUSE.

AND THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT THAT YOU GUYS HAD EVIDENTLY SENT PLENTY OF NOTICES TO THAT RESIDENCE, WHICH WAS, LIKE I SAID, MY KIDS, IT'S HARD ENOUGH GETTING RENT OUT OF THEM.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MAIL WISE, I GUESS I MESSED UP BY NOT CHANGING HOMESTEAD TO MALABAR, SO I DIDN'T GET ANY OF IT. AND THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS.

I DIDN'T DIDN'T IGNORE THE CITY PURPOSELY.

SO YOU'RE SEEKING TO BE REDUCED.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'D LIKE A PARDON, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST.

I. I PROMISE YOU, I KNEW NOTHING OF THIS, AND IT WAS SUCH A SIMPLE FINE TO ADDRESS THAT.

I MEAN, MY WIFE BASICALLY HANDLED IT WITH THE BOYS BECAUSE SHE WASN'T HAVING IT WHEN SHE FOUND OUT.

BUT I JUST I WOULD NEVER DISRESPECT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WE LIVE IN.

AND I JUST I, I CAN ASSURE YOU I KNEW NOTHING OF IT.

AND AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, IT WAS ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.

AND FOR THE RECORD, I'M NERVOUS AS HELL.

I DON'T EVEN GO TO COURT.

I JUST LET THAT BE KNOWN.

SO THAT MADE ME FEEL BETTER.

BUT. HMM.

CITY'S POSITION REGARDING THIS.

THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE REDUCTION OF JUST PAYING THE $750 ADMIN FEES DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE VIOLATIONS, AND THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF PRETTY QUICKLY AND THE CASE WAS NOT IN VIOLATION.

VERY LONG.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THE CITY'S TESTIMONY WAS OTHER THAN BEING EMBARRASSED AS HELL? I MEAN, LET ME LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS AND.

AND I GUESS YOU DID FIND OUT, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT WHENEVER THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO, PER SE, WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT'S ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURE THAT THEY'RE ONLY OBLIGATED TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE ADDRESS THAT'S MAINTAINED WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND OR THE TAX COLLECTOR.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID CHANGE YOUR ADDRESS WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AT SOME POINT.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY SEND THEM.

THAT'S WHY THEY SEND IT TO THE KUCINICH ADDRESS.

I SEE. AND, YOU KNOW.

THEY DON'T GO LOOK AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU ARE.

THEY JUST SEND IT TO WHATEVER'S LISTED ON THERE.

SO YOU JUST NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND IN THE FUTURE.

THE OTHER POINT IS, IS THAT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE ONE THING THAT'S ALWAYS IMPOSED WHEN ANYBODY COMES IN IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR THE CITY.

SO GENERALLY, DOES IT NEVER GET REDUCED BELOW THAT AMOUNT? SO YOU HAVE ANY YOU HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING IT WITHIN 30 DAYS? NOT AT ALL. OKAY.

AND AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES.

NO, THAT'S FINE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO. THERE'LL BE AN ORDER ENTERED, REDUCING THE FINE TO $750.

YOU HAVE TO PAY WITHIN 30 DAYS IF YOU DON'T FIND GETS REINSTATED.

YES, SIR. FROM ANY PAPERWORK OR STUDIO SEND YOU AN ORDER TO CUT.

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NICK CORRECT. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

YOUR YOUR ADDRESS IS NOT LISTED AT ALL.

OKAY. OKAY. SO I'M SAYING.

I DON'T KNOW IF. WELL, I KIND OF LEARNED A VALUABLE LESSON BECAUSE, HONESTLY, THE HOUSE THAT WE PURCHASED IN MALABAR SHOULD BE EVIDENTLY MY HOMESTEAD FOR TAX PURPOSES.

AND I, I REALLY I'M A I WAS OBLIVIOUS.

AND WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU HERE IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS.

RIGHT. SAYS THE MAILING ADDRESS AND THAT NOW IS YOUR HALL ROAD ADDRESS.

IT DID GET A SEPARATE SITE ADDRESS FOR THE PROPERTY.

OKAY, SO IT WILL COME THERE.

IF YOU HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS WITH THE CITY, THEY'LL EMAIL YOU.

I BELIEVE SHE HAS IT.

THAT'S HOW YOU'LL GET IT. OKAY.

NO, THAT'S FINE. I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO GO ANY FURTHER.

AND I'M SORRY TO WASTE Y'ALL'S TIME.

REALLY. THIS SHOULDN'T HAVE COME TO THIS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS A PHONE CONFERENCE AT SEBI.

AND REMEMBER, TOO, ON THE AGENDA, CB22024.

DASH TWO ONE.

AT 1367.

HIGHGATE STREET, NORTH WEST.

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NOTHING.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT HEARING.

AND I SIGNED THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

IS ADJOURNED AT 1:28 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.