Jan 19, 2023 Council Meetings - Regular

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SO. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

[CALL TO ORDER]

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS COUNCIL MEETING 20, 20, 20, 23, DASH ZERO TWO TO ORDER.

THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR TOM WALKER OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

WE WILL BE LED IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY BOY SCOUT TROOP 520 PASTOR WALKER.

WILL YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? MAYOR COUNCIL.

I'M JUST GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE BOY SCOUTS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW.

BUT IF WE COULD PRAY, PLEASE, FATHER, WE GIVE YOU THANKS THAT WE COULD BE HERE TOGETHER AS ONE UNITE THIS CITY, BRING US TOGETHER SO THAT WE MIGHT. GOING THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LEAD THIS COUNCIL TO LEAD US IN.

WE PRAY FOR WISDOM FOR THEM.

FOR ALL THEIR STAFF.

PRAY FOR STRENGTH, INSIGHT, COURAGE.

AND I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD PAVE THE WAY FOR ME TO MAKE THE PATH BRIGHT FOR THEM TO WALK DOWN.

THAT THEY WOULDN'T STEER TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT, BUT THEY WOULD KNOW RIGHT WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THIS CITY TO GO.

AND GOD, I PRAY FOR PROSPERITY FOR THE CITY.

I PRAY FOR YOUR FAVOR FOR THIS CITY.

I PRAY FOR YOUR GRACE OVER THIS CITY.

AND GOD, MAY WE HAVE THAT AS THIS AS THIS COUNCIL FOLLOWS YOU AND PUT YOUR PURPOSES FIRST.

WE CELEBRATE YOU AND GIVE YOU THANKS.

AMEN. TRUE.

ON UP TO THE PODIUM RIGHT THERE, SPEAKING TO THE MIC AND LEAD US IN TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

WE HAVE INFORMATION. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

RAW. HOW PATRIOTIC IS THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? YOU KNOW, IT GIVES ME STILL SO MUCH PLEASURE AND HONOR TO HEAR EVERYONE SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THIS GREAT NATION, TO THE FLAG OF THIS GREAT NATION, AND ALL OF US JOINING OUR HEARTS TOGETHER.

ROLL CALL, MADAM JONES.

MEDINA PRESIDENT.

MAYOR FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YEAH. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO HERE.

SHERMAN HERE. SMITH HEAR.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

MAYOR ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTED LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION COMPLETED.

[AGENDA REVISIONS]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT OF A VERY MINOR CORRECTION TO A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.

THIS IS FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

SO I'M NOT PULLING THE ITEM, BUT I'M JUST ANNOUNCING ON CONSENT.

ITEM FIVE. THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE ATTACHMENT FOR JUST ONE OF THE POSITIONS.

THE PAY GRADE THAT WAS LISTED FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD WAS LISTED AS G 29.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN G 30.

SO I'M JUST ANNOUNCING THAT, BUT NOT NOT REQUESTING TO PULL THAT ITEM.

THE NEXT ANNOUNCEMENT I HAVE IS THAT THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN UNDER CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE SLIGHTLY REVISED THE OR MADE A REVISION TO THE AV EXEMPTION APPLICATION ATTACHMENT.

SO THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

AND THEN LASTLY, AT THE REQUEST OF DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, A CONSIDERATION OF TRAINING TRAVEL FOR THE FLORIDA SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION AND TECHNOLOGY EXPO HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM SMITH, ANY AGENDA REVISIONS, MA'AM? NO, SIR. OKAY, SO WE'RE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]

GOOD EVENING. ARE WE HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY? IS MRS. GLENN SCURLL IN THE HOUSE? COME ON OVER, GUYS, AS WELL.

YOU'RE INVITED TO COME OVER, SIR.

THEY SHARE THE.

I'M SO PROUD. I'M SO EXCITED TODAY TO INTRODUCE THIS GREAT LOCAL HERO.

MISSPEAK ABOUT THE THE PROGRAM, THE FLAG PROGRAM THAT WAS INSPIRED BY OUR MAYOR.

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HISTORICALLY, WE USUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO HONOR SOMEBODY THAT GAVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY RATHER THAN SERVE THIS GREAT COUNTRY.

VETERANS OR ACTIVE DUTY OR FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO I WANT TO CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT TODAY.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE HONORED OUR VETERANS WILL BE TRULY DESERVING OF IT.

WE LOVE OUR VETERANS.

BUT THIS LADY RIGHT HERE, IT TO ME, IT'S A LOCAL HERO.

IT'S A GREAT AMERICAN HERO, BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT PUT PEOPLE FIRST BEFORE THEMSELVES, TO ME, THAT'S TO BE COMMENDED.

MISS GLENN IS A LOCAL NURSE, AS WE ALL KNOW WHAT OUR WORLD WENT THROUGH THE LAST THREE YEARS.

RIGHT? THOSE ARE FOLKS THAT STEPPED IN.

FORGET ABOUT THEMSELVES TO SERVE US AS A COMMUNITY.

I DON'T NEED THAT. SHE PUT YOUNG PEOPLE VERY IMPORTANT TO HER.

SHE STARTED A PROGRAM THAT HONOR AND TEACH THEM USING ARTS, BUSINESS AND CULTURE TO EMPOWER YOUNG PEOPLE.

SHE STARTED WITH A PROGRAM AS WELL, A TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM THAT TEACH THEM THROUGH TECHNOLOGY.

THEY CAN LOOK FOR A BETTER CAREER PATH.

SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I'M GLAD TO HONOR PLEASE JOIN ME TO HONOR ME, GLENN SCAL, AS A RECIPIENT OF A FLAG, GREAT AMERICAN FLAG.

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS FLAG.

IT'S NOT JUST THE FLAG, BUT THIS FLAG FLOWN OVER OUR CITY HALL BUILDING.

SO THIS MEANS A LOT TO US.

I HOPE IT DOES THE SAME TO YOU.

BUT AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO HONOR YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE CAREER PATH.

YOU'RE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AS A NURSE, AND WE TRULY, FOREVER APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU DO.

ALSO RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE AS WELL WITH THE FLAG.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR DONNIE FELIX FOR THIS HONOR.

I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A FLAG IN MY HOME.

AND SO THIS IS TRULY.

YOUR HONOR, I STAND BEFORE YOU AS AN AMERICAN DESCENDANT OF SLAVERY.

AND SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS FLAG MEANS FOR ME, I HAVE TO REFLECT BACK ON OUR ANCESTORS, AMERICANS WHO ARE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVERY, WHO CAME BEFORE ME AND WHAT THEY TAUGHT US.

AND THEY TAUGHT US THAT THROUGH EFFORTS OF COMMUNITY BUILDING, THROUGH EFFORTS OF HELPING OTHER PEOPLE, THROUGH EFFORTS OF MAKING THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE, THAT AMERICA COULD LIVE UP AND BE TO ALL OF ITS CITIZENS, AN EQUITABLE PLACE FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE.

AND FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT THIS FLAG WOULD BE IN HONOR OF.

IT WOULD BE IN HONOR OF AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF SLAVERY FROM THE PAST.

DR. KING.

I'D BE WELLS, KWAMI AND TO ALL OF THOSE MEDGAR EVERS, MALCOLM X AND ALL OF THOSE LEADERS, BUT ALSO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

WE JUST CELEBRATED DR.

KING'S BIRTHDAY, AND I WAS JUST AT A MEETING ON MONDAY WHERE YOU HAVE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THOSE SAME IDEALS.

AND SO THE FLAG HAS TO BE REAL FOR US.

AMERICA HAS TO BE WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE FOR ALL OF ITS CITIZENS.

AND SO I'M HONORED TO TAKE THIS FLAG ON BEHALF OF JORDAN CHANDLER, ON BEHALF OF MARCUS SMITH, EBONY FOSTER, ERICA HERNANDEZ, BRIGHT, DR.

DOKES STYLER, AND THE REST OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT I WORK WITH AND SERVE.

YOU CANNOT WRITE AFRICAN AFRICANS WHO ARE IN AMERICA OUT OF HISTORY.

OUR HISTORY IS DIFFERENT FROM ANYBODY'S HISTORY THAT'S HERE.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN IN AMERICA LONG BEFORE THE FLAG WAS IMPLEMENTED.

SO WE ARE GOING ON 500 YEARS HERE.

IT IS THE ONLY HOME THAT WE KNOW.

SO AMERICANS WHO ARE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES, WE THERE IS NO AMERICAN HISTORY WITHOUT US.

AND SO YOU CAN'T WRITE US OUT OF HISTORY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE THE PROMISE OF AMERICA, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT AMERICA LIVES UP TO THE EQUITY AND THE AND ITS PROMISE TO ALL OF ITS PEOPLE. SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON BEHALF OF THAT.

I AM A CARDIOVASCULAR NURSE, SO I SEE A LOT OF PATIENTS, PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERING THOSE OF US WHO ARE FIRST RESPONDERS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A HARD THREE YEARS.

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COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

MR. SHAW. MRS. WRIGHT. IN THE RACE.

IT'S UP A LITTLE BIT. THERE WE GO.

WOULD YOU LIKE ANYBODY ELSE TO COME UP, SIR? YES. CAN I HAVE MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE? BRING THEM ALL. BRING THEM ALL.

LET'S GO. COME ON.

WE'VE GOT ENOUGH ROOM. COME ON, FELLAS.

LET'S GO. QUICKLY, QUICKLY.

QUICK, QUICK. GET THE MARINE CORPS OUT.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S KICK IT.

I'M RIGHT HERE. NO PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO FILM.

ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. NOTICE IN PROCLAMATION OF FIRST ANNUAL PALM BAY INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL, JANUARY 22ND, 2023, IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WE'RE ASKED THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF THE SPACE COAST, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WILL BE HOSTING THE FIRST ANNUAL PALM BAY INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY JOINS THE INDIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN CELEBRATING.

TRY IT. WE'RE TRYING.

THERE YOU GO. AND WELCOMING THE HARVEST WITH PROSPERITY AND HOPE ALL COMING TOGETHER TO REJOICE WITH THEIR LOVED ONES WHILE THEY FLY KITES.

THEIR REVEALING KITE ENCOUNTERS INDICATES THE SPIRITUAL MESSAGE ONE NEEDS TO RECEIVE IN ORDER TO GROW.

AND. WHEREAS, IN 2022, THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF SPACE COAST MOVED THEIR OFFICES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, AS PALM BAY WAS FOUND TO BE WELCOMING, DIVERSE AND AN ADVOCATE FOR STRONGER, MORE INCLUSIVE AND PROSPEROUS SOCIETY FOR ALL.

AND. WHEREAS, IN 2022, THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF SPACE COAST CELEBRATED 31 YEARS PROMOTING THE INDIAN COMMUNITY OF BREVARD BY PROVIDING GLIMPSES OF THE INDIAN HERITAGE TO OUR CHILDREN AND LOCAL COMMUNITY WHILE CREATING A PLATFORM TO SHOWCASE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE LOCAL TALENTS IN CULTURE, EDUCATION AND ENTERTAINMENT THROUGH CHARITABLE ACTIVITIES.

AND. WHEREAS, THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF THE SPACE COAST, WITH THEIR NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT, MR. SHAH, AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAVE COMMITTED TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF MINORITIES AND CONTINUE WITH A PASSION FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE AND FOCUS ON THE PROMOTION OF INDIAN CULTURE. EVERYONE IS HEREBY INVITED TO THE FIRST ANNUAL PALM BAY INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL ON JANUARY 22ND, 2023, AT FRED POPPI PARK FROM 11 A.M.

TO 6 P.M. TO SHARE IN THE GLOBAL CELEBRATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND AND SHAH, PRESIDENT OF THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF SPACE COAST AND THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF SPACE COAST BOARD OF DIRECTORS, FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO INCLUSION AND PROMOTION OF THE INDIAN CULTURE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES, BUT FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ANUSHA AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF THE SPACE COAST.

WE ARE HERE TODAY TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION AND WE ARE HONORED TODAY'S EVENING.

AND THIS FESTIVAL IS A SYMBOL OF RECOGNITION AND PRIDE FOR US.

I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ISOBEL WRIGHT, THE PRESIDENT OF THE HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHO HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BRING THIS EVENT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SHE HAS BEEN THE FORCE BEHIND THIS EVENT AND SHE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

AND WE CONTINUOUSLY GO TO HER FOR GUIDANCE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

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WHO WAS A TREMENDOUS SUPPORT, ALONG WITH, OF COURSE, ROB MOLINA, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY, AND THE AMAZING PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING US TO PUT THIS EVENT TOGETHER.

THE FESTIVAL GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO SHOW THE CULTURE THAT THE INDIAN CULTURE IS TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF SPACE COAST HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 31 YEARS.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE INDIAN AMERICANS ARE BRINGING AN EVENT OF THIS STATURE.

IRON ORE, FAMOUSLY KNOWN AS THE KITE FLYING FESTIVAL, IS A CELEBRATION THAT BRINGS EVERYONE TOGETHER.

AND WE ARE INVITING THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, TO JOIN US ON SUNDAY, JANUARY 22ND, 11 A.M. AT FRED BARBEE PARK.

IT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF PERFORMANCES, SOME PROFESSIONAL BOLLYWOOD DANCERS THAT ARE GOING TO COME FROM ORLANDO.

THERE IS SOME LOCAL PERFORMERS.

THERE IS GOING TO BE BOUNCY HOUSE CANDIES, COTTON CANDY, POPCORN, HENNA FACE PAINTING, YOU NAME IT.

AND OF COURSE, THERE IS A LOT OF VENDORS THAT'S GOING TO BRING SOME DELICIOUS FOOD.

SO I HOPE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE THERE.

BESIDES, BESIDES THIS, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE FESTIVAL OF WHICH RYAN IS ONE IS THE FESTIVAL IN ONE PART OF INDIA.

BUT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN INDIA, YOU CAN CELEBRATE FESTIVALS LIKE PONGAL MAKAR, SANKRANTI, LOHRI, BIHU, AND MANY MORE IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE INDIAN CULTURE IS SO DIVERSE, YET UNITED.

IT IS OUR MISSION AS EIC TO KEEP THE HINDU TRADITION ALIVE FOR THE COMING GENERATION THROUGH THE CELEBRATIONS.

WE ARE INVITING EVERYONE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS EVENT AND ENJOY THE DIVERSE, YET UNITED INDIAN CULTURE.

AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE WE HAVE MOVED ISC TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR PERMANENT HOME.

WE HOPE TO MAKE THE INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL AN ANNUAL EVENT AT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO DESCRIBE HOW VALUABLE THIS MOMENT IS FOR ALL OF US.

YOU KNOW, BUT I KNOW EVERY INDIAN THAT RESIDING IN BREVARD COUNTY IS GOING TO CHERISH THIS MOMENT FOREVER.

TO MAKE THIS EVENT MORE MEMORABLE, WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY THE HONORABLE JUDGE GIGI DUKU PATEL.

SHE IS THE ONLY INDIAN JUDGE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

WE ARE WE ARE TRULY HONORED AND APPRECIATE THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO COME HERE TODAY AND CELEBRATE THIS EVENT WITH US.

LASTLY, I WANT TO THANK MY COMMITTEE AND THE AMAZING VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS EVENT AND GIVING THEIR TIME TO THE ORGANIZATION FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

HAPPY TIME TO ALL.

JANE. CONGRATULATIONS.

THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.

LOOK AT THIS. HOW BEAUTIFUL CULTURE IS AND HOW WE NEED TO EMBRACE IT.

I AM A PROUD CUBAN AND I AM SO PROUD TO BE HERE TODAY TO CELEBRATE WHEN MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM INDIA, I EXPECT AND PROMISE THAT THIS IS NOT THE LAST ONE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO JOIN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MANY CITIES TO COME BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, AS MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS, AS THIS EVENT IS TODAY, BECAUSE WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY'S BEAUTIFUL CULTURE AND LOOK AT THESE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN AND MEN, THE WAY THEY ARE DRESSED AND RESPECT AND HONOR FOR OUR CITY. I AM SO PROUD IN THIS MOMENT, AND I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL SUNDAY TO SEE ALL THOSE GUYS FLYING AND CELEBRATING YOUR HARVEST. PLEASE JOIN US AND PLEASE COME AND SUPPORT THIS BEAUTIFUL CULTURE.

BEFORE I GO, I DO NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE BEAUTIFUL SUZANNE SHERMAN WITHOUT HER AND HER SUPPORT.

THIS COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.

AND OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON, MY.

I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BETTER THAN HE IS AMAZING.

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SO FROM THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE INDIAN COMMUNITY AND LET'S DO THIS AGAIN.

THANK YOU. HERE'S A PICTURE.

IT'S. AGAIN, PLEASE.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

JUST WANTED TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT.

NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE OUR.

A JUDGE HERE TODAY.

BUT I'D ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT THREE.

JOHN TOBIAS IS IN OUR AUDIENCE AS WELL.

SO I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE HIS PRESENCE AS WELL.

I GUESS YOU SUPPORT'S FOR KENNY'S DOING.

YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE FOR A FEW SECONDS AS THE CHAMBERS GET CLEARED AND FILLED AGAIN.

WE ARE EXPECTING ADDITIONAL GUEST.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

OKAY. ONCE THOSE DOORS ARE SECURED, THERE WILL BE NO BREACH.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

HERE. MR. ROBERT STICE.

FIRST, BILL BATTEN.

AND PHILLIP COCHRAN.

THAT WAS EXCITING.

ROBERT STAGES, 1796 WHEN I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS UP HERE.

THESE ARE TWO MINORITY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS RESTAURANTS.

ONE IS TWISTED BISCUIT, WHICH IS A BABCOCK.

JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO PALM BAY ROAD, IT'S ON THE LEFT WHERE LORRAINE USED TO BE.

THEY HAVE GREAT FOOD IN THERE. WE'VE BEEN IN THERE SEVERAL TIMES.

I DID SOME HANDOUTS OVER THERE.

THE OTHER ONE IS KOBE EXPRESS.

IT'S BASICALLY AN HIBACHI JAPANESE TYPE EXPRESS HERE.

I'M TRYING TO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AN OUT OF BOX GUY.

AND I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS ASK.

GOT A LOT OF NOISE COMING IN HERE.

YEAH. CAN WE SECURE THAT DOOR? CAN I GET A. CAN WE JUST PAUSE YOU? WE'LL PAUSE YOU. ARE THEY.

ARE THEY COMING IN ONE BY ONE? OKAY, SO IF WE CAN JUST.

ORDERLY COME IN.

TIM, CAN WE JUST HAVE THEM COME IN? ORDERLY, PLEASE? SORRY, MR. STICE, JUST STAND BY.

WE'LL JUST PAUSE FOR A FEW MINUTES.

MR. STICE, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE.

WE'LL RESET YOU FOR THREE, 3 MINUTES, SIR.

NO, NO. WE'LL RESET YOU.

YOU'LL GAIN AT LEAST 40 SECONDS.

NOW.

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EXACTLY. HUH? SO, GENTLEMEN, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS WHILE WE REGROUP.

NO. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WELCOME, EVERYONE, THAT JUST JOINED US.

WE'RE GOING TO RESUME I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER AND WE'RE GOING TO RESUME WITH OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH ROBERT STICE TO BE FOLLOWED BY MASTER SERGEANT BATON OR AS YOU WERE SEEING, YOUR CHIEF AND PHIL COCHRAN.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THIS IN REAL QUICK.

FIRST OF ALL, MISS SHERMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE PEOPLE ON FRAZIER AND LAKE LAND WHERE I DO MEALS ON WHEELS, THIS LOOKED LIKE COLORADO MOUNTAIN ROADS TO ME.

AND THE LAST TIME I DELIVERED, THEY HAD EVERYTHING DONE, OR MOSTLY EVERYTHING DONE, AND THEY WERE DOWNRIGHT GIDDY.

THEY WERE STOPPING ME.

SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY, FOR THAT.

I MEAN, THIS IS IMPORTANT. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS WITH THESE KIND OF ROADS.

AND ALSO I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT I WAS GOING TO PROVE THAT PROPERTY VALUES TO A JOB WELL DONE.

ALL RIGHT. MINORITY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS IN ANOTHER LIFE.

I DID A LOT OF THIS WHEN I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I'M ASKING FOR YOUR STAFF AND TO SEE IF WE CAN GET OUT OF THE BOX.

WHAT WE'VE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY, RIGHT? DOESN'T MEAN IT'S EFFICIENT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS TWISTED BISCUIT CAFE FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

THREE MONTHS. AND THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD THEY'RE LOOKING AT OPENING ANOTHER RESTAURANT AT HERITAGE LANDING AND HERITAGE PARKWAY, I SHOULD SAY.

THE OTHER LOCATION, KOBE EXPRESS, REMINDS ME OF A JAPANESE ESTABLISHMENT.

IT'S NEXT TO PUBLIX ON BAYSIDE LAKES, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO PROMOTE THAT.

NOW. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GET SOME SLACK FROM FROM THE GOVERNOR WITH NOT HAVING TO ADVERTISE IN THE PAPER, ALL OF THESE ZONING AND AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

MAYBE YOU AND I CAN GET TOGETHER WITH SOMEBODY IN YOUR STAFF.

HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THE BOX AS THESE BUSINESSES TRY TO GET UP AND GET GOING? HOW DO WE SPOTLIGHT THEM AND PUT THEM ON A MAP? YOU'VE GOT SOME MENUS. I CAN GET MORE, WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT IT REALLY IS A GOOD BREAKFAST.

SO CONSIDER THAT.

FOR THE MAJORS I WANT TO TALK TO REAL QUICK.

THE GOLF COURSE SHE STARTED MOWING OUT THERE AND IN TALKING TO STAFF, I WAS AT THE CITY CITY HALL THE OTHER DAY AND HER FINDS ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME IF SHE CONTINUES NOT TO MOW, DECIDES NOT TO MOW, BUT FINDS A LESS THAN WHAT MY HOA GENERATES IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR LAWN.

I MEAN, IF I WAS HER, I WOULDN'T EVEN MOW BECAUSE THE COST IS GOING TO TAKE HER TO MOW.

IT'S NOT IT'S JUST NOT USER FRIENDLY.

I MEAN, IF SHE'S GOING TO SPEND TWO GRAND TO MOW, BUT IN 40 DAYS SHE GETS A LETTER AND THEN SHE COMES BACK AND WHAT HAPPENS? SHE GETS ANOTHER TEN DAYS AND THEN THE FINE, $250.

I MEAN, LET'S WE NEED TO LOOK OUT AND WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT AS A STAFF TO DECIDE, WELL, HOW DO WE HAVE 200 ACRES ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD IF I HAVE ONE OF MY RESIDENTS NOT MOW FOR 40 DAYS? I'M ASKING FAIRWAY MANAGEMENT, WE'VE GOT TO FIND THESE FOLKS.

THIS IS NOT FAIR. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS TO TO INDUCE THEM FINANCIALLY AND SAID YOU'VE GOT TO MOW THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THAT AREA IN BAYSIDE LAKES, BUT UP TO THAT PROPERTY AND IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT.

AND YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHIEF. MILVERTON, 586.

OCEAN SPRAY STREET. SOUTH WEST.

I NOTICE THAT THE SARNO LANDFILL IS GOING TO BE SHUTTING DOWN TO RECEIVING OF ALL CLASS THREE WASTE.

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AND I'M NOT EVEN SINCE WE'RE ONLY ALREADY REDUCED OUR RECYCLING DOWN TO WHERE THEY AREN'T TAKING GLASS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT ON US? ARE WE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL AND OUR YARD WASTE PICKED UP? BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, ME, I GENERATE A TRUCKLOAD OF A WEEK IN YARD WASTE, SO LET ME KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO.

IS IT GOING TO BE COSTING US MORE MONEY OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THEM BE DRIVING ALL THE WAY UP TO KOKO? SO WE'LL HAVE FEWER PICKUPS.

JUST LET US KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

DULY NOTED. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. YOU MAY.

GOOD EVENING. PHILLIP CORCORAN, 1878 WYNN BROOK DRIVE.

WITH. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVING CHAPTER 93 AND FOR THE GREAT WORK DONE BY ATTORNEY EDWARDS ON THAT CASE.

A CASE WAS OPENED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.

WE WILL LET THEM TAKE IT FROM HERE.

UH, I HAVE NO PLANS TO PURSUE THIS ISSUE FURTHER AS LONG AS THE PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED.

AT THIS POINT, IS MY GOAL TO LOWER THE TENSION BETWEEN JOY LLC AND THE PEOPLE OF BAYSIDE LAKES.

IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I MADE ON JANUARY 5TH, 2023, IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO DEFAME, SLANDER, CREATE A FALSE IMPRESSION, OR TO HARM OR INJURE JOY LLC OR ITS PERSONNEL OR THEIR LEGAL TEAM.

I AM SORRY IF ANYBODY MISINTERPRETED MY PRESENTATION.

AS WAS STATED IN WRITING, I DO NOT SUGGEST OR IMPLY THAT ANYTHING ILLEGAL OR INAPPROPRIATE HAPPENED ON THE PROPERTY OR THAT ANYTHING ILLEGAL WAS INITIATED BY MANAGEMENT LLC OR THE LEGAL TEAM THAT WAS HIRED BY JOY LLC.

IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED IF WE COULD COME TOGETHER AND IF THE CITY CAN HELP US FACILITATE A DEAL FOR THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR NANCY POULTON, FOLLOWED BY.

EVEN OUR SMALL AND QUINN'S SMALL.

HI. NANCY PELTON, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

I KNOW THIS GOT PULLED, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO, JUST AS A DISCLAIMER, KNOW THAT ROGUE VALLEY MICRO DEVICES INC IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH THEM, BUT I'M HERE ADVOCATING FOR THE AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENT FOR THEM.

THEY ARE WELL ESTABLISHED COMPANY, WHICH WAS FOUNDED IN 2003.

I KNOW AD VALOREM TAXES OR PROPERTY TAXES AS PEOPLE KNOW THEM ARE ONE OF THE MAIN SOURCES OF REVENUE OR INCOME FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THEY ARE BASED ON THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND CHOOSING TO REDUCE OR EXEMPT ROAD VALUE.

MICRO DEVICES FROM TAXES FOR A SPECIFIED PERIOD WILL CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE JOB CREATION AND THEIR CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY.

THEY ARE LOOKING TO OCCUPY A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY WITH AN INITIAL INVESTMENT OF THE $25 MILLION IN NEW EQUIPMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS SITE HAS LAUNCHED VERY LARGE COMPANIES FROM THE SITE SUCH AS L3 HARRIS AND THEY ARE AIRLIFT WHICH HAVE CREATED OBVIOUSLY A HUGE IMPRINT AND FOOTPRINT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, BRINGING THE NEW JOBS TO PALM BAY WITH AN AVERAGE OF ALMOST 60,000 PER YEAR IS A HUGE BENEFIT WITH ANALYSIS FROM THE SPACE COAST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

THEY ESTIMATE A TOTAL ANNUAL PAYROLL OF OVER $2 MILLION AND THE SPIN OFF JOBS AROUND 4.72 MILLION TOTAL IMPACT TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

THIS IS NOT FREE MONEY.

IT IS A PERFORMANCE BASED TAX ABATEMENT FOR SIX YEARS.

OR YOU CAN CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF TIME OR HOW MUCH YOU GIVE THEM IF THEY DO NOT MEET THE METRICS ESTABLISHED REGARDING ITS CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND JOB CREATION.

ITS TAX BREAK WOULD BE REVOKED.

COMMERCIAL GROWTH AND JOB CREATION ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THE LONG TERM TAX BASE OF PALM BAY, AND I RECOMMEND WHEN IT DOES COME UP FOR A VOTE THAT YOU DO VOTE YES TO HAVE THIS TAX ABATEMENT FOR ROGUE VALLEY MICRO DEVICES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, NANCY.

FOR NOW. IT'S SMALL.

IT'S A SMALL. YES, SIR.

HOW YOU DOING? WELL, WELCOME.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY NEPHEW, JEREMIAH.

AS WELL AS MOST EVERYBODY ELSE HERE.

AND I KNOW PALM BAY HAS A BIG TASK.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS THE BROTHER.

MY BROTHER'S SON. I JUST, YOU KNOW.

FEEL THAT.

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SO A LOT OF ASH THAT'S NOT BEING TOLD.

AND I AIN'T TRYING TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO THEIR JOB, BUT IT'S PEOPLE TALKING.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION, THEY DON'T LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO TELL, BUT SOMEBODY NEED TO TALK.

I JUST REALLY CAME HERE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY COMING OUT FROM THIS COUNCIL AS MAYOR KNOW THAT OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS HAVE BEEN WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY OVER YOUR LOSS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE THE UTMOST CONFIDENCE IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY.

TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND BUILD THE CASE TO GET JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS. AND I WANT YOU I WANT TO REASSURE YOU THAT I FIRST HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THAT ARE WORK IN THIS CASE HAVE MADE THIS A PRIORITY WITHIN THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR CHIEF OF POLICE HAS EVEN REACHED OUT TO YOUR FAMILY AND PROVIDED AS MUCH INFORMATION AS HE POSSIBLY COULD WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE INVESTIGATION.

BUT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU.

JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL.

I UNDERSTAND THIS AND IT'S A HIGH PROFILE CASE.

BUT I MEAN, AND AGAIN, I KNOW THEY HAVE IT'S DUE PROCESS.

IT'S DEFINITELY DUE PROCESS.

YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

KNOW THAT OUR HEARTS ARE WITH YOU KNOW, THAT WE STAND WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

AND I KNOW THAT JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL IN THIS CASE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IT'S A SMALL. THAT EVENING COUNCIL. I AM HERE AS A RELATIVE OF JEREMIAH BROWN AS WELL.

I'M JEREMIAH'S AUNT.

UM, THE ISSUE THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS TONIGHT WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE MEMBERS IS THE COMPOUND.

AND CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THAT, MIKE? ABSOLUTELY. WE WANT TO KEEP IT BETTER.

AND CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS AS WELL? MY ADDRESS IS 110 CROWN AVENUE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. CARRY ON.

OKAY. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMPOUND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE COMPOUND.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED OUT THERE.

THERE'S PLENTY OF SAFETY ISSUES, LIGHTING, NO SECURITY.

I KNOW PALM BAY OCCASIONALLY HAS SAID THAT THEY GO OUT AND THEY TRY AND CANVASS THE AREA BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN DIFFERENT CRIMES GOING ON OUT THERE.

BUT I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS LIKE WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS, BECAUSE FROM MY KNOWLEDGE TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PRIVATE OWNERS THAT OWN THIS PROPERTY. IS THERE ANY LAWS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY THAT IS UNDEVELOPED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT THEY HAVE TO SELL IT OR DO SOMETHING WITH IT? YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE CAN WE GO WITH THIS AND WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER IN UNITY TO TRY AND PUSH THESE ISSUES TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE WITH THIS COMPOUND? I'M NOT HERE AS AN ATTACK ON PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT BY ANY MEANS, BECAUSE I KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO.

I KNOW THAT THIS CASE IS A PRIORITY AND IT'S PERSONAL FOR ALL OF US.

SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE FOR.

BUT I AM DEFINITELY HERE, YOU KNOW, TO SEE ABOUT THE COMPOUND AND HOW THESE PRIVATE OWNERS CAN BE HELD LIABLE FOR THE DIFFERENT TRANSACTIONS IN A DIFFERENT CRIMES THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THEIR PROPERTY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, MA'AM.

WE WE'RE SCHEDULING A WORKSHOP REGARDING THE COMPOUND AND THE INTRICACIES OF HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

WE'VE DIRECTED STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOME STRATEGIES, SO THOSE DETAILS WILL BE IN MARCH.

I BELIEVE THE DATES THAT COUNSEL HAS BEEN GIVEN IS EITHER MARCH 28TH OR 22ND, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT DATES AND WE'RE CHECKING ON COUNCIL'S AVAILABILITY FOR THOSE MEETINGS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT MARCH 28TH AND MARCH 30TH.

BUT IF THOSE THOSE DATES ACTUALLY DON'T WORK OUT FOR ALL THEIR SCHEDULES, WE WILL AT THESE MEETINGS ANNOUNCE THE ACTUAL DATE ONCE IT'S CONFIRMED.

SO IT WILL BE A 6 P.M.

MEETING OR. YES.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND LET ME ENCOURAGE YOU TO ENGAGE DURING THAT.

THAT. ABSOLUTELY.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

NO ENCOURAGEMENT EVEN NEEDED FOR THAT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

YOU'RE SO WRONG.

I WAS BY ROBIN GALLO AND COLIN BROWN.

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YES. BUT IF IF YOU'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME THING, WE HEAR YOU AND WE WE WE WANT TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AS WELL. CARRY ON.

YES. HI, I'M CHRIS BROWN.

I'M THE MOTHER OF JEREMIAH BROWN.

MY ADDRESS IS 1624, HARVEY EARTH STREET, APARTMENT EIGHT PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

SO I WAS GOING TO GET UP HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT THE COMPOUND, BUT MY COUSIN TOOK CARE OF THAT FOR ME.

BUT THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL ABOUT IS THE GUN VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WITH MY SON AND TJ BEING MURDERED, YOU KNOW, WITH ME JUST DOING MY OWN DUE DILIGENCE, JUST GOING THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA FOR EVERY OTHER CHILD, THEY THEY OWN A GUN. YOU KNOW, THESE KIDS ARE UNDER 18.

I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE KIDS TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN OUTLET TO, YOU KNOW, TALK TO SOMEONE OR, YOU KNOW, CONFIDE IN SOMEONE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TURN IN THE GUNS OR WHATEVER.

BUT IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, WE SEE THAT IT'S MASS SHOOTINGS EVERY DAY ALL OVER THE WORLD.

AND I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, ME KNOWING THAT THESE KIDS HAVE GUNS OUT HERE AND THEY'RE UNDER AGE, I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE FOR US WITH THESE SCHOOLS TO PROTECT OUR KIDS.

IF THEY'RE CARRYING THESE GUNS AROUND THE STREET, SURELY THEY'RE BRINGING THESE GUNS TO SCHOOL.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT OTHER NEEDS? WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OTHER THAN MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, PUTTING METAL DETECTORS IN THE SCHOOLS? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY A BUDGET THING, MONEY, WHATEVER IT COSTS, BUT I FEEL LIKE FOR OUR KIDS TO BE SAFE, TO GO TO SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, AND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME HOME BACK SAFELY AND ALIVE, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THESE GUNS JUST GETTING IN THE HANDS OF YOUNG CHILDREN.

AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, YOU KNOW, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, MY SON AND TJ LOST THEIR LIVES BECAUSE CHILDREN HAD ACCESS TO GUNS.

SO I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

I THINK THESE PARENTS NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE IT STARTS AT HOME.

YOU KNOW, THESE KIDS AREN'T JUST GETTING THE GUNS OFF THE STREET.

THEY MIGHT, BUT THEY COULD BE GETTING IT FROM THE PARENTS, TOO.

SO I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A CHILD THAT'S UNDERAGE, THAT HAS A GUN AND THEY GET CAUGHT DOING A CRIME, THE PARENT SHOULD BE RELIABLE.

I MEAN, RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR CHILD.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO CARRY A GUN.

SO, YOU KNOW, EITHER SPEAK TO YOUR CHILD IN REGARDS TO THE SAFETY OF CARRYING A GUN, YOU KNOW, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE A GUN IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN FEAR OF THEIR LIFE, SPEAK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO TAKE MATTERS IN THEIR OWN HANDS AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE GET KILLED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO YOU ALL BECAUSE IT'S A VERY, VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM.

I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, YOU GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA, EVERY OTHER CHILD HAS A GUN.

THEY HAVE A GUN.

YOU KNOW, AND IT'S IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE AS FAR AS THESE SCHOOLS TO JUST GIVE US, YOU KNOW, THE PEACE OF MIND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SAFE AT SCHOOL AND THESE KIDS AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL WITH GUNS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM AND MA'AM.

HEART TRULY GOES OUT.

FOR YOUR LOSS AND THE SAND THAT WE'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR YOU.

STRENGTHENING YOU.

AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL IN THIS CASE.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE.

OFFLINE. MAYBE I COULD SET UP A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT I AM AVAILABLE TO DO THAT LINK IN THE SCHOOL BOARD REGARDING YOUR METAL DETECTOR REQUEST.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ROBIN GALLO.

HELLO? IT'S ROBIN GALLO.

I LIVE AT 2510 PALOMAR AVENUE SOUTHEAST.

I ACTUALLY JUST MOVED HERE TWO MONTHS AGO.

I MET QUINN AND HER FAMILY ON CHRISTMAS EVE, AND I MET THEM.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DID FIND OUT ABOUT THE LOSS.

I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPOUND.

AND AS I WAS SITTING OVER THERE, I DID SOME READING.

IT STATES WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP ONLINE, ANYONE ENTERING PRIVATE PROPERTY WILL CONSENT WITHOUT CONSENT IS TRESPASSING.

SO IF THERE'S NO CAMERAS THERE, AS PER THESE OWNERS NOT HAVING CAMERAS UP, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS TRESPASSERS? AND IF IT'S 12 MILES OF A STRETCH, DON'T YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE A WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?

[00:45:05]

AND THEY SAY SIGNS THAT WILL SAY NO SHOOTING AND NO GUNS.

IF YOU CAN FISH ON A LAKE.

THIS SHOULD BE A PROTECTED AREA IF THERE ARE OWNERS OWNING IT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING TO QUINN THAT YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE A MEETING IN MARCH WITH THE OWNERS? IS THAT HOW I TOOK THAT? NO, MA'AM. WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH THE RECTOR STAFF TO BUILD STRATEGIES SO WE COULD DISCUSS OUR OPTIONS WITH THE COMPOUND.

THE OWNERS ARE NOT PART OF THAT MEETING.

OKAY. IS THIS THE SINCE? I AGAIN. I MOVED HERE FROM ANOTHER STATE.

IS THIS THE FIRST MURDER IN THE COMPOUND? SO THEN I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE TWO CHILDREN THAT ARE WITH ME NOW, AND THE PERSON I BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM CLEARLY STATED.

OH, I USED TO GO FISHING THERE.

SHE THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT TWO GENTLEMEN, TWO CHILDREN WERE WALKING AND WERE GUNNED DOWN AND THERE'S NO CAMERAS.

EVERYONE HAS CAMERAS ON THEIR STREET CORNERS.

EVERYONE HAS CAMERAS ON THEIR PROPERTY, ON THEIR HOUSES.

WHY IS THIS AREA NOT HAVE A DEMAND FOR CAMERAS? THESE TWO SOMEONE WHO WHOEVER WHOEVER KILLED THESE CHILDREN NEEDS TO PAY A PRICE.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU SAY YOU'RE WORKING ON IT.

AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT.

IT'S JUST CAMERAS SPEAK 1000 WORDS.

SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOU STAND WITH FORCING TO HAVE A CAMERA THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ACREAGE.

SO TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS SAFE AND OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY IT IS, THE DIALOG WILL NOT ENSUE.

MA'AM, FINISH YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

THAT WAS MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME.

COLIN BROWN.

HI, MY NAME IS CAROLYN BROWN.

MY ADDRESS IS 295 WAVE CREST AVENUE PALM BAY.

AFTER MY NIECE CAME UP HERE, I WAS KIND OF THINKING, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T.

BUT THEN MY DAUGHTER CAME.

BOLD ENOUGH.

THAT WAS MY GRANDSON WHO WAS MURDERED.

SO I'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS.

I'VE HEARD THE ONES AND THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMPOUND AND ALL OF THAT.

AND I GUESS WHERE I STAND TODAY IS THAT I AM NOT GOING TO STOP.

I AM GOING TO FIGHT.

TILL THE END TO MAKE SURE THAT JUSTICE IS SERVED FOR MY GRANDSON AND THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS KILLED.

BUT ALSO THAT THERE IS A SOLUTION TO THAT COMPOUND BEING THERE.

AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR MY GRANDSON IN THIS YOUNG MAN, BUT IT'S FOR ALL OF THE ONES THAT HAS LOST THEIR LIVES.

FROM SOMEHOW OUT THERE OR THINGS JUST HAPPENING OUT IN THAT AREA.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

I DROVE OUT THERE, MY DAUGHTER DON'T KNOW THIS, SO SHE'S HEARING THIS NOW, ME AND MY SISTER FRIEND.

AND AS WE BEGIN TO DRIVE BACK THERE, I NOTICED THERE WAS A POLICE BEHIND US.

SO I PULLED TO THE SIDE.

THERE WAS A CAR THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THERE.

I GOT THE CREEPIEST FEELING OUT OF THIS WORLD.

IT'S 14 MILES OF NOTHING BUT GRASS WEEDS THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND PEOPLE KEEP GOING OUT THERE.

THEY'RE SHOOTING.

MY PAIN MANAGEMENT DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT HE REMEMBER GOING OUT THERE WHEN HE WAS A YOUNG BOY AND HE'S IN HIS LATE FORTIES.

SO THIS COMPOUND ISSUE HAS BEEN LONG OVERDUE TO BE ADDRESSED.

I'M NOT GOING TO STOP.

YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE MY FACE AGAIN.

YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE ME AT EVERY MEETING I COULD MUSTER UP TO COME IN HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS MATTER.

IT DIDN'T. IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, BUT IT HAPPENED TO MY PRECIOUS JEREMIAH, AND I'M NOT GOING TO STOP.

AS LONG AS I GOT BREATH IN MY BODY.

I'M GOING TO FIGHT TO SEE THAT JUSTICE PREVAILS AND THAT COMPOUND ISSUE IS RESOLVED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND AGAIN, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

SORRY. SORRY.

ALLEGEDLY. TAEKWONDO.

[00:50:02]

HELLO. GOOD EVENING.

MY ADDRESS IS FIVE, FIVE, FOUR.

COOPER COURT, SOUTHWEST, PALM BAY 32908.

THE ISSUE WITH THE COMPOUND HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY HERE ALREADY.

AS A NEWLY RESIDENT BACK INTO PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

WHAT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT IS OUR IS THE YOUTH AND WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY SERVICES THAT PALM BAY CITY OF PALM BAY OFFER FOR MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING SERVICES FOR OUR YOUTH THAT WE CAN CONNECT WITH HERE THIS EVENING TO HELP THEM THROUGH THIS TOUGH TIME AND THROUGH ANY SITUATION IN THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE I'M BACK HERE, RELOCATED BACK HERE.

I'M NOT CONNECTED WITH THOSE RESOURCES AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT HERE FOR US TONIGHT IF THERE'S ANY OPTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY KNOW ABOUT.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THAT CONCLUDES YOUR COMMENTS, MAN.

NO, IT DOES NOT. FINISH YOUR COMMENTS.

MY LAST COMMENT IS.

AS A SURVIVOR OF GUN VIOLENCE.

I HEAR THE NEWS OF JEREMIAH.

IT REALLY BROKE MY HEART.

BECAUSE IT HIT CLOSE TO HOME BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER, HER FATHER, WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM GUN VIOLENCE.

FOR HER TO COME HOME AND SPEAK GOOD THINGS OF JEREMIAH.

TO BE ON THE TRACK TEAM WITH HIM.

TO BE A FRIEND OF HIS.

AND FOR HER TO ALSO COME HOME.

TO LOSE SOMEONE THAT'S A FRIEND OF HERS.

IT'S LIKE THE TRAUMA IS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN TO BE PERPETUATED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT SAVED ME WAS MY MENTAL HEALTH.

WHEN I LOST SOMEONE DEAR TO ME THAT EARLY ON, WHAT SAVED ME WAS GETTING THE COUNSELING AND GETTING THE THERAPY THAT I NEEDED TO HEAL AND MOVE ON, TO MOVE FORWARD AND GRIEVE PROPERLY.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING BACK TO OUR CHILDREN AND GIVING THEM THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY.

BECAUSE I'M A SURVIVOR AND THIS COMMUNITY BEHIND ME ARE ALSO SURVIVORS.

BUT WE GOT TO KEEP IT TOGETHER HERE FIRST IN ORDER TO HELP ANYBODY ELSE.

SO. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR INPUT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. MENTAL HEALTH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT.

MADAM SHERMAN, DO WE HAVE ANY RESOURCES OR BESIDES THE BOARD OF HEALTH? I KNOW THERE ARE. THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME AGENCIES THAT WORK IN OUR COUNTY THAT PROBABLY HAVE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT.

SO I'M GOING TO WE HAVE WE HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE TEAM, AND THEY CONNECT PEOPLE WITH SERVICES, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK ONE OF OUR OUR FOLKS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TEAM TO GET WITH YOU AND SHARE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.

AND YOU CAN EXCHANGE PHONE NUMBERS OR WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU ALL.

SO OUR POLICE CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF WERE BACK THERE AT THOSE TABLES.

JUST SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CONNECT AT SOME POINT BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

NEXT, TAEKWONDO EBSEN.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TOWANDA GIBSON.

MY ADDRESS IS 720 CAROLINE STREET, AND THAT'S IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

I AM HERE OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THIS SITUATION WITH JEREMIAH AND TJ.

HIS NAME IS.

LOOKS LIKE TRAYVON ANTHONY JUNIOR.

MY BIGGEST THING IS, AGAIN, THE KIDS, JUST LIKE MISS TYRESE SPOKE ABOUT.

I THINK THAT WE TAKE IT SO LIGHTLY.

IF THIS GENERATION IS BEING ERADICATED BY GUN VIOLENCE, WE WON'T HAVE A FUTURE.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING INTO NURSING HOMES EVERY DAY.

THERE'S PARENTS THAT NEED THEIR CHILDREN TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

AND IF WE GET RID OF A GENERATION OF KIDS, WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT? WHO'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT TO CARRY THOSE TORCHES? I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN YOUR WILL POWER.

I DO BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT.

YOU KNOW THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY CASE.

[00:55:03]

I AM A PALM BAY NATIVE, BORN AND RAISED RIGHT HERE.

I'M 36 YEARS OLD.

I DO NOT REMEMBER LIFE BEING LIKE THIS IN THIS CITY EVER.

WE HAD SO MUCH TO DO GROWING UP.

AS I WAS GROWING UP, WE STARTED SEEING THINGS GETTING SHUT DOWN.

THEY TOOK THE SCAM RING, THEY TOOK THE TEEN CENTER, THEY TOOK EVERYTHING FROM US.

AND THEN I NOTICED THAT WHEN THEY TOOK ALL THOSE THINGS, WHAT HAPPENED? WE GOT IN TROUBLE.

WE STARTED LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO.

WE STARTED GOING TO THE COMPOUND, SMOKING, DRINKING, RIDING, DIRT BIKES, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

AND THAT'S NOT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

WHEN WE HAD THE TEEN CENTER, WHEN WE HAD PALM BAY GREENS AND THE SKATING RINK, THEY HAD ADULTS IN THERE SUPERVISING US SO WE COULDN'T GET IN TROUBLE.

BUT WHEN WE GO OUT TO PLACES THAT ARE NOT, THERE'S NO SURVEILLANCE, THERE'S NO FENCES, THERE'S NO WALLS, THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF A PLACE THAT IS CLEARLY SAFE.

IF YOU CALL IT TRESPASSING, I HEAR YOU COULD BE FINED.

AND JUST LIKE MY AUNT SAID THE OTHER DAY WHEN SHE WAS GETTING READY TO RIDE OUT THERE, MY AUNT CAROLYN, SHE SAW SOMEBODY COMING OUT AND AN OFFICER RIDING RIGHT PAST THEM.

WHY DIDN'T THAT OFFICER STOP AND SAY, HEY, WHAT WAS YOUR BUSINESS BACK THERE IN THE COMPOUND? YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE TAKE THINGS LIGHTLY.

I WORK IN THE HEALTH IN HEALTH CARE, SO I KNOW THAT DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC IS IS STRESSFUL.

IT'S HARD. BUT GUESS WHAT? IF THAT'S YOUR GIFT, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT GIFT EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH EVERY BONE IN YOUR BODY.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE YOUR CITY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU SIGNED UP TO DO, IF YOU SIGNED UP TO DO IT FOR A PAYCHECK, YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FOR YOU.

YOU KNOW, OFFICERS ARE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT AND SERVE.

SO WE HAVE TO PUT OUR TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FOR US.

SO JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH MORE OF YOUR TIME.

I RESPECT, YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ORDER.

I APPRECIATE YOU. MS..

DAVIS. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING TO OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BARBARA DAVIS.

I'M RETIRED FROM BOVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I SERVED IN THE US ARMY.

I'M A GRANDMOTHER.

I'M A WIFE.

AND I'M A CHURCH MEMBER OF JEREMIAH AND THE FAMILY.

GOD SAID WE SHOULD LOVE EACH OTHER AND CARE FOR EACH OTHER.

ALL OF US ARE SOLDIERS IN THIS ARMY OF THIS WORLD TODAY.

SO WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER.

I SAT THERE LISTENING TO EVERYONE SAYING, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE.

YES, WE KNOW THAT WE DO.

WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING AND GET SOMETHING DONE AND FIND WHO DID THIS SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE PEACE OF MIND ABOUT WHO DID SUCH A TERRIBLE THING.

ON CHRISTMAS DAY.

ON GOD'S DAY.

I STOOD THERE AND I WAITED AND THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY? AND I SAID, LORD, GIVE ME THE RIGHT THING TO SAY.

AND I'M THINKING ABOUT T.J.

AND JEREMIAH.

AND WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL IF WE HAD A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ON THAT COMPOUND NAME THE T.J.

AND JEREMIAH BOYS CLUB OR SOME TYPE OF BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, SOME TYPE TO MAKE THIS POSITIVE IN SUCH A HORRIBLE TIME.

NOW, I MOVED HERE FROM MIAMI.

I KNOW ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE.

I KNOW ABOUT AND WENT TO MIAMI EDISON SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE WERE THINGS GOING ON THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH ANYONE.

AND I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I'M THINKING, OKAY, I NEED TO FIND SOMEWHERE SAFER, BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, WHEN MY HUSBAND RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY, MY DAUGHTER WAS TEN YEARS OLD AND I SAID, OKAY, PALM BAY, FLORIDA, I LIKE IT HERE.

MY HUSBAND AND I CAME AND WE VISITED.

BUT NOW IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A MIAMI.

AND IF NO ONE HAS FEAR IN THEIR HEART THAT THIS PLACE WILL TURN INTO MIAMI, GO DOWN TO MIAMI AND VISIT.

WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THAT.

WE SHOULD LOVE PALM BAY FLORIDA ENOUGH TO SAY NO.

WE SAY NO AND WE MEAN NO.

WE WILL NOT WATCH OUR CHILDREN BE KILLED.

WE WILL NOT LET THIS TURN INTO A WAR ZONE.

WE WILL PROTECT AND SERVE ALL OF US, EVERYONE, NOT JUST OUR OFFICERS.

WE THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE WILL SUPPORT YOU IN EVERY WAY THAT WE CAN.

KNOW THAT WE ARE CHRISTIANS.

[01:00:01]

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

HERE, I CONCLUDE. SINCE THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS I JUST WANTED.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CONDUCT THE CITY'S BUSINESS.

BUT BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WANT I JUST WANT TO SHARE OUR HEART.

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US ON THIS.

DYESS HAS BEEN IN BRIEFINGS WITH YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE DISCUSS THE COMPOUND AS WELL, AND WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP.

WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME ACTIONS.

WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME MEETINGS.

BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO US AND NOW WE WANT TO RESPOND.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE THE MEETING WITH US AS WE CONTINUE TO CONDUCT THE CITY'S BUSINESS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.

IF NOT, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO EXIT.

SO THE CHOICE IS YOURS AT THIS TIME.

DO YOU PREFER TO STAY? I WILL GIVE I WILL GIVE THEM ABOUT 5 MINUTES TO GO AHEAD AND EXIT.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT, KELSEY? OH.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE JUST ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

MADAM SMITH. OR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CAR WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING A COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PROCEEDING PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59.03.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS.

WHILE THE JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

HEARING THEM WILL BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNSEL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.

AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS IN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

ORDINANCE 2023 DAS ZERO TWO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, NEVADA COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. A CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM H.

C HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO OUR M H RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME DISTRICT.

PLEASE ME STAND FAST.

IS THERE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OUT THERE, SON? IS THAT A YES? AND WE DOUBLE CHECK THAT, PLEASE.

OKAY. CARRY ON.

CARRY ON. MADAM SMITH.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED? NORTH OF AND SOUTH OF EARTH.

SOUTH BOULEVARD, IN THE VICINITY EAST OF LIPSCOMB STREET AND LEGALLY DESTROYED.

DESCRIBED HEREIN.

PROVIDED FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, I'M KIM ROSENKER.

ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, PAUL DALEY AND DON BALLOU.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE DRAINAGE CANALS AROUND PALM BAY COLONY.

THIS WAS AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF TO CHANGE THOSE DRAINAGE CANALS FROM HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL TO MOBILE HOME RESIDENTIAL TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTY THEY SUPPORT. PULTE HAS COME BEFORE YOU.

THEY'RE THE CONTRACT PURCHASERS.

THEY DO NOT YET OWN THE CANALS.

I WAS MISTAKEN ON THAT, BUT THEY ARE PURCHASING THEM.

THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED BY PULTE HOME OR THERE'LL BE SOME AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE MADE.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BUILT UPON.

THIS IS SIMPLY CLEANING UP YOUR YOUR ZONING MAP.

AND WITH THAT, WE REQUEST APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANTS? THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING? NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR AND PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

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SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE, I'M CALLING CAUTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MS..

SMITH. ORDINANCE 2023.

THAT'S ZERO THREE.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATED AND ALLOCATED FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A PERSISTENT OF SIX PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HERE IN RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHAPTER 35.

ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKED MISS SHERMAN TO PRESENT THE REQUEST.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS SIMPLY THE FIRST QUARTER A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

THIS IS FINAL READING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? MASTER CHIEF BETTE.

BILL BATON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET TRANSFER LISTINGS, I NOTICED THAT ON PAGE 44, UNDER ARPA FUNDING YOU HAD UNDER COMMUNITY OF HOPE, YOU HAD THE LISTING DOWN FOR 1.2 MILLION, BUT THE ACTUAL COST IS GOING TO BE 1.7 MILLION IF THINGS PASS AS TONIGHT. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF SO, IS IT JUST GOING TO BE A RE RE CERTIFICATION FOR THAT HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR IS IT PRIOR PLANNING TO PREVENT PISS POOR PERFORMANCE FOR A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MARY.

THIS JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE TIMING OF WHEN WE CUT OFF OUR INFORMATION GATHERING FOR PURPOSES OF THE FIRST QUARTER AMENDMENT.

SO THAT WILL BE REFLECTED ON THE SECOND QUARTER AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED AND A MOTION BY SECOND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2020 3-01 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST OF MCA ROAD, VICINITY SOUTH OF DOTY DRIVE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR FILING A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF BREVARD COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF STATE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS THE APPLICANT SENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

THIS IS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST OF GAILEY BOULEVARD IN MELBOURNE.

I DO HAVE A HANDOUT THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT HELP JUST CLARIFY THINGS A LITTLE BIT FOR COUNSEL, IF I MAY PROVIDE IT.

SURE, YOU CAN APPROACH.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MR. JAMES DIX. HE IS A VERY EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER.

WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS A SMALL PART OF A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT, SO YOU'LL BE SEEING QUITE A BIT OF US COMING UP IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

BUT I THOUGHT IT'D BE GREAT FOR COUNCIL TO GET TO KNOW HIM QUICKLY AS WELL.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND THE REST.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I TAKE JUST A QUICK MINUTE SINCE THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF QUITE A FEW HEARINGS THAT I'LL BE ATTENDING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR HOWEVER SIMPLE OFFICER. SO I JUST FINISHED TWO, THREE OR TOURS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPOINTED BY THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE AND PART TIME.

I'M A DEVELOPER.

WE DEVELOP LARGE SCALES, PEDS AND MIXED USES FROM ESSENTIALLY BREVARD COUNTY TO CITRUS COUNTY.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS INVESTMENT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

WE LOVE THAT AREA DOWN THERE AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S A LONG TERM INVESTMENT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE DOING THAT.

WE'RE. I'M A SEVENTH GENERATION FLORIDIAN, SO MY FAMILY'S BEEN INVESTING IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM PLAN CITY.

AND RIGHT NOW DEVELOPMENTS IS IN LAKE MARY, FLORIDA.

AND SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BEING HERE IN PALM BAY STAFF IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH SO FAR AND THAT'S SAYING A LOT BECAUSE I WORK WITH A LOT OF CITIES AND A LOT OF COUNTIES.

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SO J.D.

ANDERSON AND HIS STAFF HAVE BEEN GREAT.

AND THIS IS REALLY BEEN A SEAMLESS PROCESS THUS FAR.

AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE.

THANK YOU, SIR. SO DO YOU MEAN DR.

J? WELL, I HEARD THAT WAS HIS NICKNAME, BUT NO.

YEAH, THAT'S IT.

THE DOCTOR. AND DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY? YOU WORK PART TIME FOR SECDEF.

I JUST FINISHED TWO THREE YEAR TOURS.

I WAS RUNNING A PROGRAM HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SUPPORTING OUR 35,000 GUARD AND RESERVE AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS AND HAD ABOUT 120 VOLUNTEERS.

SO NOW I STAYED ON CHAIR EMERITUS AND STILL DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK FOR THE DOD HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I APPRECIATE. I TRULY APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HARD TO FOLLOW THAT UP.

I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERALL LOOK AT WHAT IS COMING HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW TONIGHT AND THEN WHAT WILL BE COMING IN THE FUTURE.

SO GIVE YOU A TWO PAGE HANDOUT.

THE FIRST ONE IS AN AERIAL.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS APPROXIMATELY 300 ACRES WITH THE BLUE DASHED PERIMETER AROUND IT.

IT'S AT THE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MECO ROAD AND AT TOWARDS THE WESTERN END, YOU CAN SEE WHERE EMERALD LAKES IS ON HERE IN THE NEW I-95 INTERCHANGE WITH THE PARKWAY.

THIS IS PART OF A MASTER PLAN PROJECT.

SO TONIGHT IS THE 300 ACRES, THE FIRST PIECE OF THE JIGSAW PUZZLE TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN PROJECT YOU SEE CALLED ASHTON PARK INCLUDES THE 300 ACRES TONIGHT, AND THERE'S ABOUT 135 MORE ACRES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MECO ROAD. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, COLORBLIND PINK OR PURPLE DASHED LINE AROUND THAT.

SO KIND OF GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN THE SECOND IS AN OVERALL MASTER PLAN THAT IS PART OF OUR APPLICATIONS WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT.

SO THIS INCLUDES, AGAIN, IN THE BLUE DASH LINE, THE 300 ACRES FOR TONIGHT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MECO ROAD AND THE ADDITIONAL 130 ACRES ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS THE ANNEXATION OF THE 300 ACRES OF THAT BLUE DASH LINE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

BUT JUST BRIEFLY, FOR THE BECAUSE THAT IS JUST ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE HERE, BRIEFLY FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT.

IT WOULD INCLUDE EXTENDING THE PARKWAY FROM THE I-95 INTERCHANGE AT EMERALD LAKES, GOING THROUGH THE EASTERN HALF OF THE PROJECT, THEN SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO MICO ROAD.

IT WOULD INCLUDE UTILITY EXTENSIONS.

YOUR UTILITIES UTILITY DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY INVESTED $40 MILLION IN PLANT EXPANSIONS FOR THIS WHOLE REGION AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

THOSE TWO THOSE PROJECTS ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW.

THIS PROJECT INCLUDES FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT, A BRAND NEW DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A DOWNTOWN AS PART OF THIS AND THAT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THAT MASTER PLAN, THAT DOWNTOWN AREA ALONE IS OVER 40 ACRES.

WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER 86 ACRES, SO ABOUT 130 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL FLEX SPACE, MIXED USE PROPOSED AS PART OF THE PROJECT, GREEN SPACE, PUBLIC PARKS, OPEN SPACE, ALMOST 100 ACRES WHERE WE'RE PLANNING FOR THIS OVERALL MASTER PLAN.

IT'S GOT A LINEAR TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WILL GO FOUR MILES THAT WILL BE OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC USE IN ADDITION TO OTHER RECREATIONAL ELEMENTS FOR THE PROJECT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT 98 ACRES OF MULTIFAMILY AND TOWNHOMES, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE BROWARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD ON A 30 ACRE SCHOOL SITE.

WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT PROVIDING EITHER A COMBINED POLICE AND FIRE STATION OR EVEN TWO SEPARATE SITES FOR THEM.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, ALL OF THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED.

THE 300 ACRES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT, AGAIN, THAT NORTHWEST CORNER AS PART OF THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN INCLUDES FOUR ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, ABOUT 275 ACRES OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ABOUT 20 ACRES OF MULTIFAMILY AND TOWNHOMES.

SO AS WE GO FURTHER WEST ON THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN, WE GET A LITTLE BIT LESS INTENSE, MORE OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES ARE MORE TOWARDS THE EASTERN END AND ALONG MICO ROAD THERE.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED.

THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND THIS COUNCIL IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS ON FEBRUARY 1ST AND FEBRUARY 2ND.

SO YOU WILL BE SEEING US QUITE A BIT.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED CHANGE FOR THE UNDERLYING LAND USE AND THE ZONING.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS.

I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT FOR OVER 15 YEARS NOW, SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT FORWARD TO THIS COUNCIL,

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THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE OUR THE DEVELOPER HERE THAT IS VERY EXPERIENCED.

HE'S DONE A LOT OF GREAT PROJECTS.

I'VE SEEN SOME OF THEM MYSELF.

HE HAS HAS JUST A GREAT TRACK RECORD AND HE'S ABOUT AS EXCITABLE AS ANYONE I'VE EVER WORKED WITH AS FAR AS BRINGING IN A BRAND NEW PROJECT AND MAKING SUCH A INVESTMENT IN IT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THEM.

SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT FIRST, BEFORE I GET TO THAT QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO I LOVE THE PURPLE.

I LOVE THE COMMERCIAL.

YEAH. AND I THINK I'VE MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT.

THAT COMMERCIAL A COUPLE OF TIMES.

SO LET'S JUST KEEP.

LET'S NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL.

LET'S LET'S INCREASE THAT COMMERCIAL.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, NOW LET'S KEEP THAT COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST THAT'S MY FIRST COMMENT.

MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE.

BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY GOOD LOOKING MASTERPLAN, RIGHT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A DOWNTOWN AREA AND THAT COMMERCIAL.

BUT I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.

IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE INSTITUTIONAL LIKE WHERE WOULD YOU PUT A CHURCH? YEAH. SO ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND EVEN WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WE COULD DO ANY A CHURCH IN ANY PART OF THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO INTO ANY PART OF THE PROJECT PERHAPS LISTED, YOU KNOW, FAITH BASE OR HOWEVER HOWEVER YOU WANT TO.

BECAUSE WITH ALL THESE HOMES AND THAT WHOLE MASTER PLAN, THERE SHOULD BE IF YOU LOOK AT VIENNA AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY HAD CHURCHES, DIFFERENT FAITHS AND EVEN A SYNAGOGUE. SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT.

I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAD SOME.

YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, MR. WEISS. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING.

MY QUESTION, ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING THIS IN PHASES OR IS THIS GOING TO BE DONE LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE COMMERCIAL AT THE SAME TIME, MULTIFAMILY, EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE? A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE DONE IN PHASES.

A LOT OF IT'S MARKET DRIVEN.

BUT THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE WAY THAT YOUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED WITH US, AS MR. DICKS HAD SAID EARLIER, THEY HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING, VERY SUPPORTIVE, GIVING US GREAT IDEAS.

WE HAVE REARRANGED THIS SITE MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGH OUR MEETINGS WITH THEM AND OUR PROGRESSIONS AND IT PROVIDES THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THE INSTITUTIONAL TYPE USES FOR CHURCHES. BUT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE DONE IN PHASES.

TELL ME THAT. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THIS PART. WHAT YOU ASKING TO BE? HE'S THEN, RIGHT? YEAH.

FOR TONIGHT, THE BLUE DASHED LINE, THE 300 ACRES.

CORRECT, SIR, ARE YOU GOING TO COME BACK? YES. SO THE REST OF IT, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION IN AND WE'LL BE ON YOUR FEBRUARY 2ND AGENDA TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.

WE WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT TONIGHT'S VOTE WAS PART OF A MUCH BIGGER PICTURE.

I GOT THAT.

MY COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A LITTLE OF EVERYTHING HERE.

YOU GOT TOWNHOMES, YOU GOT YOU GOT MULTIFAMILY, YOU GOT SINGLE RESIDENCE.

LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, THE COMMERCIAL PART, I LOVE THAT YOU'VE GOT PARKS.

LOOK IT AT A PUBLIC PARK.

WE NEED MORE PARKS.

AND YOU'VE GOT SCHOOLS.

I MEAN, YOU. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE THOUGHT OF A GOOD PLAN HERE.

I LIKE. I LIKE WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.

YEAH. MAKES ME WANT TO MOVE DOWN THERE.

HOPEFULLY, WE WILL ENTICE YOU.

AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE PUBLIC PARKS BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE OVERALL MASTER DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT NOT A MAINTENANCE BURDEN FOR THE CITY AT ALL.

IT'S GOOD TO HEAR. THANK YOU.

SO, IF I MAY.

WELL, I WAS GOING TO LET HIM YOU AROUND IT.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU. MAYOR MR. WISE, I MUST SAY THIS.

THIS MASTER PLAN IS QUITE INCREDIBLE.

I MEAN, LAST TIME YOU APPROACHED ME, APPROACHED THIS DIOCESE DOWN SOUTH THERE.

I EXPRESSED MY CONCERN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, SCHOOLS, ETC..

YOU CHECKED ALL THE BOXES, MAN.

YOU REALLY DID. SO I.

REALLY UTILITIES LOOKS TO BE THERE AS A PUBLIC SAFETY TO SCHOOLS.

AND THE STAFF REPORTER MENTIONS A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO BE DONE.

YOU SATISFY THE COMMERCIAL ELEMENT OF IT, PLUS ADDING A DOWNTOWN.

I EVEN EVEN TO GO FURTHER, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF ALL OF THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD TO US.

I DO WANT TO MENTION ONE THING, THOUGH.

WHILE WHILE YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PUT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DOWN THERE, I DO NOTICE THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED AS ONE WHICH IS ONE UNIT PER ACRE.

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AS OF RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, THIS MASTER PLAN IS QUITE, QUITE FORMIDABLE AND.

WELL, SO THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WAS TRACKING THAT.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, ONE ACRE LOTS COMING ON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. WISE. I KNOW.

THANK YOU FOR FOR THIS.

AGAIN, I'LL ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED.

A GREAT, GREAT PRESENTATION.

GREAT PLAN. HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK WITH EMERALD LAKES? I KNOW IT'S WITHIN PROXIMITY OF EMERALD LAKES.

HOW? I KNOW YOU'RE QUITE INVOLVED WITH EMERALD LAKES AS WELL.

HOW WOULD THE TWO DEVELOPERS MAYBE IN COMMUNICATION IN TERMS OF NOT TO HAVE TOO MANY REPEATS WITHIN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY? HOW WOULD ONE COMPLEMENT THE OTHER? I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO WE ARE THE ENGINEERS FOR WATERSTONE, CYPRESS BAY, EMERALD LAKES.

THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD IN BETWEEN.

IT'S ABOUT 350 ACRES BETWEEN EMERALD LAKES AND THIS PROJECT WE'RE CALLING THAT ONE ECO VILLAGE PARK THAT IS ALSO HAS AN APPLICATION IN THAT'LL BE COMING BEFORE YOU SOON. SO WE'RE WORKING ON ALL THOSE PROJECTS WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPERS.

WE'VE HAD MEETINGS ACTUALLY THAT CITY STAFF HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN WITH THE DEVELOPERS BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO EXTEND THE PARKWAY AND THE UTILITIES THROUGH BOTH EMERALD LAKES EAST AND THE MICO VILLAGE PARK DISTRICT TO COME TO OUR FRONT DOOR RIGHT HERE.

SO MR. DIX AND HIS TEAM AND THOSE OTHER TWO DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND WE'RE LAKES, AS THIS BOARD IS VERY WELL AWARE, IS MUCH FURTHER ALONG AND WE'RE COMING IN BEHIND THEM.

THEY'RE THEM WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS TO BRING THIS ALONG.

THIS WHOLE REGION IS GOING TO BE IMPROVED AND BETTER SERVICE FOR BOTH THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH EXTENDING THAT ROADWAY AND THE UTILITIES FROM EVERYWHERE, FROM HURRICANE EVACUATIONS TO ACCESSIBILITY.

IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT ON MICO ROAD, YOU WILL SEE THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.

SO IT'LL BE GREAT TO EXTEND THE PARKWAY AS PART OF THE WHOLE REGIONAL PLANNING HERE.

SO WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED THOSE MEETINGS, THOSE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THEM.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TO EACH OTHER'S OFFICES EVEN PLUS THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD ON THE PHONE WITH STAFF.

SO APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PART OF THE WHOLE PICTURE OUT HERE.

YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CHAIRMAN, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? COMMENTS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

I ALSO. WELL, A QUESTION OF STAFF THERE.

MIGHT IMAGINE THIS TO BE A BASICALLY JUST A CLEAN UP QUESTION FOR STAFF.

WHEN I DO MENTION A POLICE DEPARTMENT OR A FIRE DEPARTMENT, THIS WILL BE PALM BAY POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOT ASHTON PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ASHTON PARK FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD, MR. CHIEF.

GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'VE GOT SIX ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS.

I WON.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE A MASSIVE INCREASE IN ROAD RESPONSIBILITY PLACED ON A CITY LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND BABCOCK.

THE SAME THING COULD HAPPEN ON MACOMB ROAD.

DON'T LET HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF.

ITEM NUMBER TWO AS THE CROW FLIES, IT'S 4.5 MILES TO THE TO THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S SIX MILES BY BY ROAD.

THAT'S A LONG DISTANCE FOR CURRENTLY UNDER A TWO LANE ROAD FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

TO BE RESPONDING ON THESE PROJECTS FOR SOME DAY MAY BE GETTING A ROAD IMPROVEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, THESE ARE THE SAME DEVELOPER'S PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

YET THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

WE ARE TASKED WITH THE $9 MILLION PLUS FOR 1.2 MILES OF ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF 95.

WE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EAST SIDE OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY COMING OFF IN 95, BUT WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO EVEN COST US AND THAT'S CONNECTING IT TO TO MICO ROAD.

ALL THE IMPACT FEES IN THIS AREA HAVE TO STAY IN THIS AREA FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THE AND THE COUNTY THAT'S UNDER THE LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. SO DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING A BIG CASH COW HERE.

WE'RE NOT IT'S GOING TO FOR THE DEVELOPING FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE DIRECTIVE SAYS NO FINGER OR SERPENTINE DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, 100%, THIS FINGER JUTS OUT TO THE EAST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S 100% A FINGER DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T CARE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO CALL OR SAY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT YOU'RE SAYS NO FINGER OR SERPENTINE DEVELOPMENTS UNDER REZONING ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

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JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

COULD THIS BE DEVELOPED UNDER THE COUNTY WITHOUT THE CITIES HAVING TO BE RESPONSIBLE IN IT? COULD THIS DEVELOPMENT STILL PROCEED WITHOUT THE CITY HAVING TO ANNEXING IT INTO THEIR RESPONSIBILITY? THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I KNOW THAT MEANS A DECREASE IN SOME REVENUE, BUT THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY INCREASES DRASTICALLY TO WHAT YOU BRING IN IN THAT TAX ROLL. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IT.

WE CAN'T FUND OUR POLICE AND FIRE NOW FOR THE SIZE THAT WE ARE.

YET YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, BUT WE'LL BE INCREASING ON OUR TAX BASE.

BUT WE NEVER INCREASE ENOUGH TO WARRANT THE EXPANSE OF THE CITY THIS BIG.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. ROBERT STI 1796, WENT FROM DRIVE SOUTH.

I DO NOT GO INTO THE DETAIL THAT BILL BANNON GOES INTO, BUT THANK GOD FOR BILL BATTEN.

I AM FIRST GENERATION NAVY.

ALL RIGHT, WINK, WINK.

THIS IS SO SMOOTH AND SO PERFECT AND LOOKS GREAT.

HOW IS IT GOING TO LOOK IN TEN YEARS? THAT'S WHAT I LOOK AT. I'M A MACRO GUY, NOT A MICRO GUY.

HOW IS THIS GOING TO LOOK? WHEN IS THAT ROAD GOING TO BE BUILT TO WIDEN IT? WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO TO PALM BAY WHEN YOU GUYS ARE NO LONGER SITTING IN THOSE SEATS? WE NEED TO DRILL DOWN INTO IT.

THIS IS JUST I'M JUST SITTING BACK IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKING AT THIS.

THIS IS JUST TOO PERFECT FOR ME.

YOU REALLY GOT TO DRILL DOWN AND DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS AND FIND OUT GET DOWN IN A NUTS AND BOLTS LIKE THIS GUY OVER HERE DOES AND GET SOME SOME PROFESSIONALS IN THERE WHO KNOW THAT IT'S JUST SORRY.

I MEAN, I'M TALKING AT THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL HERE.

IT'S JUST TOO TIGHT.

IT'S TOO CLEAN, IT'S TOO BROAD.

AND NOW WE'RE DOING 300 ACRES, BUT WE WANT TO DO A 1000 ROAD AND A TEENY TINY LANE.

IT MAKES A GREAT POINT.

ARE YOU GOING TO GET CONSTRUCTION, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS THAT GO THROUGH THEIR DUMP TRUCKS AND WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY SERVICES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

I THINK YOU NEED TO GIVE THIS MORE THOUGHT BEYOND IMPACT FEES AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND GETTING INDUSTRIAL IN THERE.

I WOULD HESITATE ON ON MOVING ON THIS UNTIL YOU'RE REALLY DAMN SURE YOU KNOW EXACTLY HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO SET.

SO ONCE IT'S IN THERE, IT'S DONE.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THIS FROM A HIGH LEVEL BEFORE WE JUST STAMP THIS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO WITH IT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SO, YOU KNOW, WHY DO YOU WANT TO.

AND JAMES DIX.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S HARD TO SPEAK AFTER MASTER CHIEF.

SEEMS LIKE HE'S PRETTY DIALED IN.

AND I'LL BE VERY PREPARED GOING FORWARD KNOWING THAT.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE THING HE DID SAY REAL QUICK WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE COMPOUND.

AND I HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CITY ON MANY TIMES OF SOME OF THEIR PROBLEMS AND OFFERING SOME SOLUTIONS AND NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC THAT I WOULD DRIVE MYSELF, BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT SOME SOLUTIONS.

I ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT NEXT TO A GDC UP IN CITRUS COUNTY.

SO THEY'VE MADE THEIR MARK IN COMPOUNDS IN NUMEROUS PLACES.

AS FAR AS ANSWERING, THIS BECOMES ANOTHER COMPOUND.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT, BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

I MEAN, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE COMPOUND AND I WAS LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS EARLIER IS WHY AREN'T YOU THE CITY DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF OWNERS SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT ARE NOW AT THIS POINT, PROBABLY IN A SECOND GENERATION, MAYBE EVEN A THIRD GENERATION, THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE, IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET ANYTHING DONE.

AND SO I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I DEAL WITH SOME OF THAT ON SOME OF MY PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT SPECIFICALLY TO THE GDC ONE UP IN CITRUS COUNTY.

ALSO, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WE'RE GOING TO DO A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT PRESENTS ITS OWN PROBLEMS AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

WE SPECIALIZE IN THOSE WE DO REAL WELL WITH THEM.

WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEM.

THAT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OF WHETHER THIS WILL BE A COMPOUND OR NOT, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT RAISES THOSE BONDS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CITY.

SO THAT WILL SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS WE DON'T NEED A CAPITAL STACK.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND SELF-FUND EVERYTHING IF WE WANT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE LOOK AT RISK AVERSION AND LEVERAGE AS WE GO.

THIS PROJECT, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT WORTH ANYTHING TO ME UNTIL THAT ST JOHN'S PARKWAY IS BUILT.

SO YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR STAFF OR JAKE LEARNED A REAL HARD WAY OF WHAT WHAT IS WORKING WITH A MARINE.

YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE PHONE.

I'M IN PEOPLE'S OFFICES.

I'M DRIVING THAT PROJECT, EVEN THAT DRONE COMING DOWN.

I NEED THAT THING DONE TOMORROW, NOT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, NOT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, AS FAR AS AND ROAD AND ANYTHING ELSE.

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SO THERE'LL BE LIMITED TRAFFIC ON MCL ROAD.

WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH DDOT OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY AS FAR AS WHAT THAT TIRE LOOKS LIKE.

BUT QUITE FRANKLY, WE CAN HAVE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE OURSELVES AND BROUGHT ON OURSELVES.

SO WE'LL WORK THROUGH ALL THAT WITH THE TIRE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL LET JAKE COME BACK UP AND HE CAN EXPLAIN SOME OF THE MORE STUFF THAT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN MY PAY GRADE.

AND HE'S NOT KIDDING.

IT IS 24 SEVEN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WITH HIS LEAD.

SO I MENTIONED THE SEED.

SO THE SEED WOULD MAINTAIN ALL OF THE ROADS, WOULD NOT AGAIN, BE A BURDEN ON THE CITY, BUT EVERYTHING WOULD BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS OR HIGHER.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT 1400 ACRES.

WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE AT THAT SCALE IS THAT THE PARKWAY COMING DOWN AS A 200 FOOT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED MOST LIKELY IS A FOUR LANE ROAD. AND EXPANDABLE TO SIX LANES, IT TRANSITIONS DOWN TO 120 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.

THAT'S 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR PROJECT.

THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO FOUR LANE IT AND THEN NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO LANES WHERE NECESSARY ONCE WE DO THE PROPER TRAFFIC STUDIES.

IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BOULEVARDS, IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS.

WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE THAT DOWNTOWN DISTRICT WITH PARALLEL PARKING WIDE SIDEWALKS THAT YOU COULD HAVE LITTLE CAFES AND COURTYARDS ON MIXED USE UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL TYPE OF USES.

ALL OF THE ROADS THAT GO NORTH AND RECONNECT TO MICO ROAD ARE 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS.

YOUR NORMAL RIGHT OF WAY IS 50 FEET.

WE HAVE THOUGHT ALL OF THIS THROUGH ALREADY.

WE HAVE VETTED ALL OF THIS THROUGH WITH STAFF AT THIS VERY EARLY JUNCTURE OF THE PROJECT.

THIS ISN'T US THROWN TOGETHER A MASTER PLAN.

WE'VE ALREADY SHOWING THAT THAT WE'VE THOUGHT THESE THINGS THROUGH AND HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ON THAT.

AS FAR AS A SERPENTINE ANNEXATION, EVERYTHING YOU SEE SOUTH OF MIKO ROAD, THE MAJORITY OF THIS PROJECT, THE 135 ACRES, IS ALREADY IN THE CITY LIMITS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONLY HERE TONIGHT TO PUT THAT LAST JIGSAW PIECE PUZZLE UP ON THAT NORTHWEST CORNER TO BRING THE 300 ACRES IN.

NOW, THERE'S BEEN OTHER POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS THAT TRY TO TO DEVELOP THAT IN THE COUNTY TO ANSWER MR. BANTON'S QUESTION. THEY TRIED TO GET UTILITIES FROM THE UTILITY PLANTS THEY HAVE OFF TO THE EAST THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY.

AND THERE'S NO CAPACITY, THERE'S NO AVAILABILITY.

SO IT FITS IN PERFECTLY, IN OUR OPINION, WITH BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

IT REALLY CREATES AND HELPS OUR ENTIRE PROJECT FOR THE REST OF IT.

AND ONE OF THE MOST SPECTACULAR ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT, AND WE'RE ONLY HERE FOR THE ANNEXATION TONIGHT, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW DEEP WE WOULD DIG INTO THIS.

EVERYTHING YOU SEE, THE NORTH, THAT'S ALL BREVARD COUNTY EELS LANDS THAT IS GOING TO BE HELD IN PRESERVATION IN PERPETUITY.

THERE'S AMAZING TRAILS.

I'VE BEEN THROUGH THERE.

I'VE TAKEN MY KIDS THROUGH THERE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER TRAIL COMING RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

WE HAVE INTERCONNECTING REGIONAL TRAILS.

I MENTIONED TO YOU ALREADY, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER ALMOST 100 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE AND PARKS AND LINEAR TRAILS FOR THIS PROJECT.

SOUTH OF US IS INDIAN RIVER COUNTY.

THAT'S THE ST SEBASTIAN STATE PRESERVE THAT WILL NOT EVER BE IMPACTED OR DEVELOPED EITHER.

SO THIS PROJECT IS SURROUNDED BY PRESERVATION LANDS AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES.

THERE'S ALMOST NO PROTECTED SPECIES AND NO WETLANDS ON THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE AN OPEN PLAYBOOK FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THE PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO.

THAT IS VERY, VERY UNUSUAL IN BREVARD COUNTY.

SO WITH THAT, HOPEFULLY HIT THE MARKS ON THOSE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND APPRECIATE.

AGAIN, TIME TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

COUNSEL THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. NONE.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN, I JUST APPRECIATE THE GREAT DETAIL PUT INTO THIS THIS PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD OTHER ANNEXATIONS THAT HAVEN'T EVEN GONE INTO THIS MUCH DETAIL.

OTHER THAN THAT, I WANT TO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. BRYANT, FOR PUTTING UP ON THE ON THE PROMPTERS SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE.

SO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING LIKE WHAT? SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL STAFF FOR DOING THAT.

BUT I LIKE THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AND AND DR.

JAY, I APPRECIATE YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. IF I MAY, I PRETTY MUCH ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON JUST MENTIONED.

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I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WE RESPECT ALL STAFF.

I'M NOT MAKING COMMENT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, PROJECT LOOKS SO GREAT TO HIRE OTHER SPECIALISTS.

THESE FOLKS ARE PROFESSIONALS.

THEY ALL PAY HIGHLY PAID AND THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BY DON'T DON'T UNDERMINE THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM TO DO TO DO THE JOB THAT WE, THE CITIZENS, PAY THEM TO DO. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY ADDITIONAL.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT A QUESTION FOR A CITY MANAGER REAL QUICK.

IN HER OPINION OR IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT'S OPINION, DO THEY FEEL THIS IS A FINGER OR A SERPENTINE OR AN ENCLAVE OF ANY KIND? UM, THANK YOU, SIR. I WOULD ACTUALLY DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, UNLESS YOU WANT JESSE TO.

OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. THEN I WILL BRING UP JUST ANDERSON.

YES. OUR ACTING GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT, NOT JUST THE ANNEXATION OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST THE ANNEXATION? YEAH, IT ACTUALLY A BIT OF SCOPE WITH THE CURRENT ANNEXATION.

YES, SIR. THE SCOPE OF THE CURRENT ANNEXATION RIGHT NOW, THE SERPENTINE NATURE OF IT WOULD NOT BE INSTILLED BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT'S OVER 300 ACRES IN SIZE. WHAT WE'D LOOK AT FOR A SERPENTINE NATURE IS TYPICALLY SOMETHING OF A SMALLER SCALE SIMILAR TO THAT SPOT ZONING THAT YOU'RE KIND OF REFERRING TO THE SPOT ZONING IS TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT'S FIVE ACRES OR SMALLER.

SERPENTINE IS SLIGHTLY BIGGER, BUT IT'S MORE IN TERMS OF ITS NATURE OF HOW IT CONFORMS IN TERMS OF THE CONFIGURATION.

AND THIS THIS COULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED A SERPENTINE IF IT WERE MUCH, MUCH SMALLER TYPE OF LAND MASS.

BUT BECAUSE OF ITS GENERAL NATURE, THIS COULD BE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS.

SO IT NEVER END UP BEING A SERPENTINE AND IT'S IN PERPETUITY.

THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY IT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED ONE NOW.

SO IT'S IT'S THE PLANNING NATURE OF IT LATER ON.

UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. CAN THE SAME BE SAID FOR FINGERING, FOR FINGER OR FOR.

CHARLIE. YEAH, GO AHEAD.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES. SO THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH I SHOULD SPEAK ON A DIFFERENT APPLICATION RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WILL ACTUALLY END UP LOOKING INTO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PERSPECTIVE. IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT MIXED USE, BUT SIMILAR FASHION.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT VERSION OF PLANNING ASSOCIATED WITH IT BECAUSE THE CONCEPT PLANS.

SO THAT AGAIN, WOULD GO THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE ANY TYPE OF SERPENTINE NATURE TO ITS LAND MASS.

VERY MUCH, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DR.. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEM TWO OR SEVEN.

EIGHT, NINE AND TEN.

OKAY, SO I'VE GOT ITEM TWO, FOUR, SEVEN, EIGHT.

NINE AND TEN.

YES. ANY ANY ANYONE ELSE WISH TO PULL ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? SEEING NONE. I NEED MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO, FOUR, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN.

SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MADAM SMITH. RESOLUTION 2023, DASH ZERO TWO, A RESOLUTION THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, OMITTING RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 51, ADOPT THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS AND THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 THROUGH 2023.

RESCINDED RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RESOLUTION 2020 3-03A RESOLUTION THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 52.

ADOPTING A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 THROUGH 2023 THROUGH 2026 THROUGH 2027 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[2. Award of Bid: Road bond paving, northeast area – IFB 04-0-2023 (Ranger Construction Industries, Inc. - $6,671,445); and approve the transfer of additional funds from the Undesignated Fund Balance in the amount of $1,374,641 to be added to the project budget.]

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YOUR MOTION. SOME OF THE MOST.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SINGING TO MAKE DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[4. Contract: Comprehensive plan update, assignment of Contract 64-0-2020 – Growth Management Department (from S&ME, Inc. to Inspire Placemaking Collective – no fiscal impact).]

MY REASON FOR WANTING TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR TONIGHT IS BASICALLY JUST SHINE SOME LIGHT ON IT.

I DON'T LIKE THE CONSENT AGENDA BY NATURE.

AND SO CERTAIN THINGS I JUST REALLY WANT TO BRING UP MORE OVER WE'LL TALK MORE ON SEVEN.

BUT AS FAR AS NUMBER FOUR, HERE GOES SE AND ME, I ALWAYS SAID SM AND PROBABLY EASIER HAS CHANGED OVER TO INSPIRE PLACEMAKING COLLECTIVE.

SO AS THIS READS THE WHOLE TEAM THAT WAS WORKING ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, YOU KNOW WORKS FOR A NEW COMPANY NOW, BUT THEY'RE STILL ON THE PROJECT AND IT'S ALL FAIR AND WELL. WE CAN'T HELP WHO WE PICK AND MAYBE, MAYBE THEY WERE SO DARN SUCCESSFUL THAT THIS OTHER COMPANY JUST COULDN'T RESIST, JUST HAD TO HAVE THEM BOTTOM UP.

THIS GIVES ME A LOT OF HEARTBURN, A LOT OF WORRY, THOUGH, AS A NORMAL CITIZEN, AS A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND OVERALL JUST A REGULAR OLD GUY, BECAUSE BEING IN THE CORPORATE WORLD AND UNDERSTANDING PROJECTS AND WHEN THINGS CHANGE AND SO ON, THERE'S ALWAYS DELAYS.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD SUFFICE TO SAY THAT WE'RE WELL BEHIND IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE WORK.

SO MY QUESTION, IT'S REALLY OPEN ENDED.

IT'S TWOFOLD IS WHAT DID THIS COMPANY, THIS ENTITY, SET THE STAFF UP FOR AS FAR AS EXPECTATIONS OF DELAYS? AND I READ THEIR MEMORANDUM, SO DON'T TELL ME, OH, THEY SAID EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE FINE WHEN YOU GUYS HAD REAL CONVERSATION.

WHAT ARE THEY REALLY SAY AS FAR AS WHAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO DELAY? AND WITH THAT, ANY ARE THEY GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL COSTS AND THINGS OF THIS SORT? AND THEN I JUST HAVE A PIGGYBACK QUESTION BECAUSE MR. ANDERSON WAS JUST REFERRED TO AS THE ACTING GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

IS HE ACTING IN THAT JOB TONIGHT BECAUSE MISS BERNARD'S ON A VACATION OR IS THERE SOME NEWS THAT I NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT WILL ADD TO MY CONCERN AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND GOES? SO IF YOU GUYS COULD FILL ME IN, THE REST OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS WONDERFUL CITY IN ON THAT INFORMATION, I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE STILL HAVE ALEX BERNARD AS OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

SIMPLY A LEAVE OF ABSENCE TEMPORARILY.

SO ALL IS WELL THERE. THANK YOU.

I WILL ACTUALLY ASK STAFF TO TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE DISCUSSIONS THEY'VE HAD WITH ME REGARDING THE CHANGE INTO THE NEW COMPANY.

JOAN JULIET, WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CERTAINLY TAG TEAM AT JULIET KNIGHT AND THEN WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO JESSIE ON THE TIMELINE FOR THE COMP PLAN.

BUT WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM CHRIS DOHERTY WITH SNM PREVIOUSLY AND HE NOTIFIED US THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY TOOK THE LAND PLANNING LAND DEVELOPMENT AND. AAM AS WELL AND SPUN OFF THEIR OWN COMPANY INSPIRE SO IT'S THE SAME TEAM IT'S WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE SAME INDIVIDUALS AS WE UNDERSTAND IT THEY WON'T BE SKIPPING A BEAT IT'S JUST THAT THEY WERE LUMPED IN WITH AN ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING FIRM AND THEY WANTED TO CREATE THEIR OWN NICHE SPECIALTY SPECIALIZATION IF YOU WILL.

SO THIS IS AN ASSIGNMENT OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE SAME GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS.

AND IF JULIET, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ANY MORE.

THE ONLY THING I WILL ADD IS THAT AN ASSIGNMENT OF A CONTRACT IS VERY UNUSUAL.

USUALLY WHAT WE SEE IS RATHER ACQUISITION OR NOVATION WHERE COMPANY A ACQUIRES COMPANY B AND COMPANY A NO LONGER EXISTS.

AND THAT'S NOT THE CIRCUMSTANCE HERE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE REALLY CLEARLY VETTED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHEN WE WERE REDOING OUR PROCUREMENT MANUAL A FEW YEARS AGO TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS KIND OF ASSIGNMENT ACTUALLY COMES BACK THROUGH TO YOU ALL.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING IT ON THE AGENDA.

IF S&M FAILED TO EXIST AS A COMPANY, THIS WOULDN'T ACTUALLY COME TO COUNCIL WOULD BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

IT WOULD BE AN ACQUISITION.

WE DON'T NORMALLY DO ASSIGNMENTS BECAUSE WE'VE MADE A COMPETITIVE SELECTION OF A FIRM, SO WE DON'T WANT THEM TO ASSIGN IT TO ANOTHER FIRM.

HOWEVER, CONSIDERING THE ENTIRE TEAM WORKING ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS MOVED TO THIS NEW COMPANY AND THAT WE ARE THIS FAR INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO AGREE TO THIS ASSIGNMENT.

BE THAT MAN. THANK YOU.

NEED EMOTION. SO MOVE.

AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR.

FELIX ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN?

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WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

[7. Ordinance 2023-04, granting Ad Valorem Tax (AVT) Abatement to Rogue Valley Microdevices, Inc., first reading. (AGENDA REVISION)]

THAT'S ZERO FOUR.

CARRY ON, MA'AM. MR. BATTEN AND I DO THIS ALL THE TIME.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AVALON CONCESSION TO ROGUE VALLEY MICRO DEVICES INC TO BE LOCATED AT 2301 COMMERCE PARK DRIVE, NORTHEAST ON BAY, FLORIDA, 329055, SPECIFYING THE ITEMS EXEMPTED, PROVIDING THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE EXEMPTION.

FINDING THAT THE BUSINESS MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION ONE 96.19 95, SUBSECTION EIGHT FLORIDA STATUTE PROVIDING FOR OUR ANNUAL REPORT BY ROAD VALLEY MICRO DEVICES INC, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OR ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MR. BATTEN. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

FIRST QUESTION IS THE MICRO DEVICES, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FEE REDUCTION WHEN THEY'RE MAKING ALL THE PREPARATIONS IN THEIR BUILDING? OR WE ALSO GOING TO LOSE THAT REVENUE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE REVENUE WE'RE GETTING FROM THE TAX, FROM THE AD VALOREM TAX.

WE'RE GOING TO MISS THAT REVENUE.

ARE WE ALSO GOING TO LOSE THE REVENUE FROM THEIR FEE IMPACTS, FROM THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING ON THE BUILDING? SO WITH THAT BEING ASKED, DO YOU HAVE ANY ROUGH IDEA? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LOSING BY GIVING THESE PEOPLE THE BACK TAX ABATEMENT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OR THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? RAND OLSZEWSKI. AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT QUESTION.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNSEL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOKWOOD STREET, NORTHEAST.

I'M A TRUSTING MAN, BUT I COULDN'T QUITE TRUST MR. BATTEN ENOUGH TO PULL THIS ONE OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO I HAD TO MAKE SURE TO GET MY CARD IN THERE AS WELL.

AND BASICALLY, I JUST DON'T VIEW THIS.

I REALLY, REALLY DON'T VIEW THIS AS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

I THINK THAT IT SHOULD JUST BE STANDARD POLICY.

IF YOU WANT TO CODIFY IT, DO IT.

IF NOT, LET'S MAKE A GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT THAT WHEN WE HAVE THESE BIG DEAL OF AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENTS, WE GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON PUBLIC HEARING.

RIGHT? BECAUSE TO TALK TO YOU THROUGH, I ALWAYS TAKE YOU THROUGH MY LITTLE JOURNEY.

YOU KNOW, I'M DOING MY MORNING WHATEVER FLORIDA TODAY ARTICLE.

HEY, THEY'RE GOING IN FRONT OF THE BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSION.

HEY THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO A COUNCIL MEETING.

IT WAS LIKE RIGHT BEFORE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.

THEN YOU GOT TO CLICK YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH A PAYWALL TO READ THEIR ARTICLE, WHICH IS JUST THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

BUT THAT'S BETWEEN ME AND FLORIDA TODAY, NOT YOU GUYS.

THE POINT THAT I'M GETTING AT HERE IS TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THIS ABATEMENT PROCESS.

YOU HAVE TO BE PAYING REALLY, REALLY GOOD ATTENTION AND YOU HAVE TO BE GOING THROUGH THESE AGENDAS WITH FINE TOOTH COMBS AND FINDING OUT WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT IS GOING TO BE MADE. NOW THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW A COMPANY DARN NEAR FOR AN ENTITY.

THEY'RE AMERICAN. BUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE IN THE FREE STATE OF FLORIDA HERE AND WE DO THINGS OUR OWN WAY.

THEY WANT TO COME ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, NOT BY ACCIDENT.

AND THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF OF POTENTIAL REVENUE TO STAY IN THEIR COFFER INSTEAD OF COME INTO OUR CITY'S COFFERS.

SO I HAVE TROUBLE WITH HAVING AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NOW, I DON'T WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY AGAINST THIS ONE.

ALL I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU GENTLEMEN AND LADIES TO DO IS HAVE A VERY HEALTHY POLITICAL DEBATE ABOUT THIS SITUATION, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE YOUR PHILOSOPHIES OF TAX ABATEMENTS TO COME UP.

AND SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD LIKE YOUR PHILOSOPHY OF A TAX ABATEMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA TO COME UP, BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY SPEAKING, THIS IS PROBABLY A PRIME TIME AREA TO OFFER A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, ESPECIALLY A TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING COMPANY, A TAX ABATEMENT.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT IT, WE DON'T NEED TO DRAW ANYBODY ELSE TO THE CONTENT AREA.

WE DON'T NEED TO YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING ON LIPSCOMB.

I'VE HEARD AND THIS IS HEARSAY, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT MELBOURNE IS GOING TO LINK THIS COMMERCE PARK UP WITH PIRATE LANE ALL ON THEIR OWN ACCORD.

THIS WHOLE AREA IS UP AND COMING.

IT'S HAPPENING. HOW DO YOU HAVE TO SELL SOMEONE ON BUILDING SOMETHING HERE? WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS FAR AS ABATEMENT PROGRAM IS POST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.

WHEN WE TELL PEOPLE THAT WE WANT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN THE COMPOUND, WE SHOULD BE FINANCIALLY INCENTIVIZING THE FIRST PIONEER TO GO OUT TO THE COMPOUND AND TO BE A PIONEER AND TO BE A FRONTIERSMAN AND TO GO START THE DAMN THING.

I'M NOT PHILOSOPHICALLY GOING TO PAY YOU TO COME TO MY PARTY THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

I WANT TO PAY YOU AND INCENTIVIZE YOU TO START MY PARTY.

TONS OF RESPECT TO THIS COMPANY, TONS OF RESPECT TO THESE MICRO DEVICES MANUFACTURERS.

WE NEED SEMICONDUCTORS IN OUR COUNTRY.

GLOBALIZATION. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN 3 MINUTES OR 3 HOURS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT LET'S BRING IT HOME.

LET'S BRING IN FLORIDA. LET'S BRING IT TO PALM BAY.

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

YOU'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY ON A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FLY THROUGH FOR THIS COMPANY TO GET OVER THE COURSE OF SIX YEARS TO CREATE 30, 60,000 JOBS.

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THAT'S NOT 2 MILLION. THAT'S LESS THAN A MILLION IN SALARY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

ANY ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY, MADAM. BEFORE WE GO, MADAM SHERMAN.

YES, SIR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK ANSWERS.

THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE FOR THE THE BUILDING FEE REDUCTION PROGRAM AS A COMMERCIAL ENTITY.

IT WOULD MEET THAT CRITERIA.

WE DO NOT. IF YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT IMPACT FEE REDUCTIONS OR WAIVERS OF SOME SORT, IF THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY IMPACT FEES, THEY WILL PAY IMPACT FEES.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF PROGRAM THAT REDUCES THAT OR WAIVES THAT IN ANY FASHION.

I ACTUALLY APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THIS WAS AN OVERSIGHT.

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A NOT ON CONSENT, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON NEW BUSINESS.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ALREADY GOING TO RECTIFY FOR THE FUTURE.

SO APOLOGIES THERE.

BUT I REALIZED BECAUSE THIS WAS PULLED OFF OF CONSENT, WHICH IS WHERE IT STARTED, WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO FULLY INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

SO IF IF COUNSEL WANTS ME TO HAVE NANCY BUTTON, OUR COMMITTEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND HAPPY TO DO SO.

OR IF YOU JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR HER TO COME UP, INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD? YES, SIR. RIGHT, NANCY? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS AN AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENT FOR ROGUE VALLEY MICRO DEVICES.

THEY ARE LOOKING TO RELOCATE TO 2301 COMMERCE PARK.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT UNDER A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE MADE SOME REVISIONS TO OUR ABT GUIDELINES.

THE ABT PROGRAM IS A BUT FOR SO THESE INCENTIVES ARE WHAT IS ATTRACTING THIS BUSINESS TO COME TO FLORIDA.

THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS LIKE TEXAS, WHICH HAS A LOT OF STATE INCENTIVES.

THERE'S TWO OTHER STATES THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AS WELL, AND THEN OTHER LOCATIONS IN ADDITION TO FLORIDA.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN SPEAKING TO THE BUSINESS OWNER IS THAT BASED ON WHAT THEY DO, THEY CLUSTER AROUND OTHER BUSINESSES. HER CURRENT OPERATIONS IN OREGON HAS EXPANDED AND SHE'S HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING SUPPLIES.

THIS REALLY STARTED IN 2020 AND IT JUST IS DIFFICULT FOR HER.

SOMETIMES THERE ARE SEVERAL HOURS AWAY FROM A MAJOR CITY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED HER TO THIS AREA IS THE FIT COMMAND RENAISSANCE.

SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ALREADY DO SIMILAR THINGS AND ALSO THEY HAVE THE DEVICES, THE DIFFERENT PARTS THAT THEY WOULD NEED.

SO SHE LOOKS AT THAT WHEN SHE IS LOOKING TO RELOCATE.

SO THEY HAVE KIND OF GROWN OUT OF THEIR EXISTING FACILITY.

AND SO THIS FACILITY ACTUALLY WILL ALLOW HER TO EXPAND IN THE FUTURE.

SO ALTHOUGH INITIALLY SHE'S LOOKING AT BRINGING ON 30 EMPLOYEES.

HER HOPE IS THAT SHE WOULD ALSO EXPAND THAT TO A HIGHER NUMBER.

THIS IS A $25 MILLION INVESTMENT FROM THIS COMPANY.

SO NOT ONLY IS HER, HER FAMILY AND MOST OF HER EMPLOYEES RELOCATING TO PALM BAY, SO THEY WILL ALSO BE BUYING HOMES, RENTING HOMES HERE, BUT THEY ARE INVESTING $25 MILLION.

A LOT OF THAT WILL BE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CLEAN ROOM.

AND SO RETROFITTING THAT FACILITY FOR THAT, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE HIGHER AMPERAGE ON ELECTRICITY AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE WATER USAGE.

SO THIS LOCATION IS IDEAL FOR THEM.

I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WHEN WE DID THE THE GUIDELINE REVISION, WE HAD SET SCORING CRITERIA.

BREVARD COUNTY HAS A VERY RECOMMENDED SEVEN YEAR, 70%.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE SCORED SIX YEARS, 60% IS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT SHORT OF MEETING THE WAGE REQUIREMENT. THE NEXT LEVEL, WHICH WOULD BUMP THEM UP TO AN EIGHT SCORE IS ACTUALLY 61,000 AVERAGE WAGE.

SO THEY ENDED UP WITH THE THE FOUR SCORE.

BREVARD COUNTY ACTUALLY HAS SOME LEEWAY IN THAT.

SO THEY ACTUALLY INSTEAD OF JUST DOING THE FOUR, THEY WENT TO A SLIGHTLY HIGHER NUMBER LIKE A SIX ON THE SCORING WHICH WE WE DID NOT SO THAT COULD BE ALSO A RECOMMENDATION YOU COULD LOOK AT BECAUSE WE SET IT AT THAT FOUR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T QUITE MEET THE HIGHER WAGE WHICH WOULD HAVE GAVE THEM AN EIGHT SCORE.

SO WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM COME HERE.

THEY ARE NOT SET ON COMING HERE.

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THIS IS ONE BUSINESS, BUT IT WILL BRING A CLUSTER OF OTHERS.

SO IT'S THE START OF BRINGING IN NEW BUSINESSES THAT'S IDEAL THAT THE CLUSTER OF OTHERS RIGHTS AROUND THE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 NEW JOBS BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE RELOCATING SOME MORE BOYS, BUT THIS IS 30 NEW JOBS, CORRECT.

OR OUR AREA AT AN AVERAGE OF 59 PLUS THE CLUSTERS THAT COME WITHIN.

AND THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN EXISTING THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

YES, THAT HAS BEEN VACANT.

YES. AND THIS TECHNOLOGY.

SO. YES, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? OF STAFF. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD.

I NEED A MOTION THERE.

YES, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE A SECOND 2020 2-04.

I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO ANSWER SOME OF MR. CHAYEFSKY'S QUESTIONS HERE.

BESIDES WHAT OUR MAIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPER SAID, THIS IS GOING TO CREATE 30 NEW JOBS, AND THE AVERAGE SALARY OF THESE 30 NEW JOBS IS GOING TO BE $59,900. THAT'S A HUGE, HUGE IMPACT TO OUR CITY.

THEY'RE TAKING, AGAIN, A VACANT BUILDING, 50,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY VACANT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPLY IT WITH WHAT THEY NEED.

PLUS THE 30 NEW FOLKS, $25 MILLION IN INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I'M ALL FOR THAT. FOR SIX YEARS OF A TAX ABATEMENT THAT'S NOT EVEN A FULL TAX ABATEMENT GOES AT LOWERS PERCENTAGE AFTER YEAR THREE 100% FOR THAT.

YOU MENTIONED THE COMPOUND.

THIS IS A COMPANY THAT NEEDS SOME OF THAT SITE READY.

SO YEAH, YOU COULD GO TELL THEM TO GO BUILD THE COMPOUND.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO GOING BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WELL, GO, GO BUILD SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE I HAVE A PLACE AT SITE READY HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

OUR PLACE IS SITE READY.

THEY DON'T NEED TO MOVE. THEY DON'T DO ANY CONSTRUCTION BESIDES MAKING A CLEAN ROOM.

AND THEY'RE ALSO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FIT CAMDEN AND LL THREE, THAT WE'RE EVERYTHING THEY WANT HERE IN OUR CITY.

SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME PHILOSOPHY BEHIND IT, AS YOU AS YOU ASKED.

AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A COMMENT TO STAFF.

GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THE EDC ON GETTING THIS PROJECT HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

YEAH, WELL, I'LL START BY SAYING I AM IN AGREEMENT THAT THERE SHOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING, AS OUR CITY MANAGER ACKNOWLEDGED.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD.

BUT YEAH, YOU WANTED OUR IDEOLOGY.

THE IDEOLOGY THAT I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IS BRINGING JOBS TO OUR COMMUNITY, CREATING PROSPERITY.

WE'RE BEHIND A GUN.

FOR YEARS WE WERE KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, AND THIS COUNCIL HAS WANTED TO CHANGE THAT IDEOLOGY.

RIGHT WHEN WE WANT TO GET RID OF THAT STIGMA.

AND I THINK THIS IS A PROJECT THAT DOES THAT.

TO YOUR ARGUMENT ABOUT THE COMPOUND MAKING INCENTIVES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

LET'S MAKE INCENTIVES FOR FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.

LET'S LET'S SEE WHAT PIONEERS AND I'M ALL ABOUT THAT.

LET'S SEE WHAT INCENTIVES WE CAN CREATE TO HAVE A PIONEER.

ALTHOUGH ELON MUSK WOULD NOT NEED ANY TYPE OF INCENTIVES, BUT I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

I DID SEND THAT LETTER OUT AT FOR ELON MUSK, BUT I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO SINGING BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, RANDALL.

[8. Consideration of the Fiscal Year 2022-2023 HOME Disbursement Agreement with Brevard County ($1,608,607).]

TAKE 5 SECONDS TO THANK THE TWO OF YOU THAT DID TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PHILOSOPHY.

NOW, CONSIDERATION OF FISCAL YEAR 2023 HOME DISBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY 1.6 MILLION.

I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE GROSSLY SUMMARIZE.

CORRECT ME IF I STEP OUT OF LINE HERE, BUT WE'RE GETTING THE MONEY FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO 2021.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE AND AS MISS NANCY BLUNT WILL TELL YOU, I'M ONE OF HER DEPARTMENT'S BIGGEST ADVOCATES.

BUT I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY IT'S BECAUSE THAT DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WOEFULLY BEHIND IN THEIR ADMINISTRATION AND DISTRIBUTION OF THESE FUNDS.

AND NOW HER AND TEAM, THEY'RE DOING THEIR DARNDEST AND THEY'RE CLAWING BACK AND THEY'RE GETTING, HEY, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS 1.6 MILLION OUT OF THE COUNTY, BUT WE HAVE MONEY DUE US. THERE IS MONEY DUE TO BE BROUGHT INTO MS. BUDGET DEPARTMENT TO BE DISPERSED INTO OUR COMMUNITY, TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.

I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ON LISTS TO GET THIS MONEY AND CAN'T GET THIS MONEY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE SO WOEFULLY BEHIND.

SO I REALLY AM TELLING THIS TO ALL MY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE ME, BUT ALL MY FELLOW CITIZENS AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I STAND ON AS HIGH AS I CAN WHEN I DO SERVE YOU AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY ON THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD TO POINT OUT THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IN PERSONAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF

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WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

WE NEED TO INVEST RESOURCE INTO THEM MORE SO THAN JUST DOLLARS AND CENTS.

YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS COME THROUGH CITY HALL AND YOU SAY HELLO TO EVERYBODY.

MAKE SURE YOU GO SEE NANCY FIRST NEXT TIME.

RIGHT. MAKE SURE THOSE GUYS ARE SMART GIRLS AND GUYS AND GET SMILING.

MAYBE WE GET THEM A LITTLE EXTRA COFFEE AND DONUTS.

THEN THEY'RE DUE BECAUSE THIS MONEY NEEDS TO BE PUMPED INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

MONEY ALREADY EXISTS.

THIS ISN'T MONEY. WELL, MR. GILBERT AND TOMMY, IT IS OUR MONEY.

BUT THIS ISN'T MONEY THAT I PAID.

YOU GUYS DO ANYTHING ELSE.

THIS IS MONEY THAT'S COMING DOWN THROUGH FEDERAL TO STATE, THE COUNTY TO OUR CITY.

IF ONLY WE COULD INCREASE OUR CAPACITY TO DIGEST IT.

LET ME JUST SAY, FOR CONVERSATION'S SAKE, IF THERE WAS SOMEONE TELLING ME, RANDALL, YOU CAN HAVE AS MUCH MONEY TO DO WHATEVER COOL PROJECT YOU WANT, YOU JUST NEED TO SPEND IT FASTER. I'D FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SPEND IT RIGHT.

I FIGURE OUT WHERE TO ON BOARD PEOPLE, BUT MY LIFE AND MY PERSONAL ENTERPRISE ARE A LOT EASIER TO MANAGE THAN THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH AND CERTAINLY IN BREVARD COUNTY. BUT WE GOT WE SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE HERE, FOLKS.

SO CONSIDER THIS THREE MINUTE DIATRIBE, AN ENDORSEMENT.

MISS NANCY BLUNT, THE WORK SHE DOES AND ENDORSEMENT OF HER DEPARTMENT, AND OVERALL, JUST ADVOCACY FOR SUPPORTING THAT DEPARTMENT, SUPPORTING GRANT FUNDING, GETTING OUT INTO THE WORLD AND INTO THE COMMUNITY SO YOU CAN MAKE THE IMPACT THAT'S DESIGNED TO MAKE.

WE'RE TWO FISCAL YEARS BEHIND.

LET'S NOT GET ANY FURTHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS NANCY.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. HI, MISS NANCY.

OH, WHEN DID YOU JOIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? JUNE 1ST, 2021.

AND A LOT A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US OR THAT YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IS PLAYING CATCH UP FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

HOW HOW LONG WOULD YOU SAY? WHEN I STARTED WITH THE CITY, WE DID NOT HAVE A DISPERSEMENT AGREEMENT, SO WE HAD TO WORK ON JOAN AND SANDRA URBAN THAT WERE HERE, WERE DILIGENTLY WORKING ON ALL OF THE GRANTS, CDBG, SCHIP AND ESP, AND SO THEY WERE WORKING ON GETTING INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO ONCE WE WORKED OUT SOME POLICY HOUSING POLICIES, ISSUES THAT WE HAD, THE COUNTY AGREED TO HAVE A DISBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH US, WHICH WAS UP TO OUR FY 1819 FUNDS.

THEY WANTED US TO, OF COURSE, WITH HOME, YOU'RE ONLY TO HAVE NO MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.

WE HAD SEVEN YEARS.

AND SO WE TRIED TO WE THOUGHT THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION HOUSING WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD MOVE QUICKLY.

WE DID AN RFP AS REQUIRED BY THE HOME REGULATIONS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT DELAYED US WAS THAT CONSTRUCTION PRICES WERE SO HIGH, SO THE BIDS CAME IN AT 400,000 TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DOESN'T MEET OUR HUD REGULATIONS.

WE HAVE TO BE UNDER 225 TO BUILD A HOUSE.

AND SO WE HAD TO SCALE BACK AND DO SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE ONLY RELEASED TO THE 2021 FUNDS WAS BECAUSE WE EVEN THOUGH WE COMMITTED ALL OF THE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED, WE HADN'T EXPENDED A LARGE ENOUGH PORTION FOR THE COUNTY TO BE SATISFIED.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M PROPOSING IN THE DISPERSEMENT AGREEMENT IS RENTAL HOUSING.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A NONPROFIT THAT WOULD BUY A UNIT AND PURCHASE IT RIGHT AWAY.

AND SO THAT WILL SPEND SOME OF THE MONEY AND THEN WE COULD GET RELEASE THE OTHER TWO YEARS WORTH OF FUNDING BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THE HALF 1,000,002 YEARS OF FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, WE ALSO HAVE ARP FUNDING, WHICH IS ANOTHER 700,000.

THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. YES, BACK EITHER END OF 2020, BEGINNING OF 2021, WE HAD THE WE HAD OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS AT TONY ROSE, A COMMUNITY CENTER, AND Y'ALL GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION TALKING ABOUT TAX ABATEMENTS, TALKING ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION.

WELL, TALK ABOUT YOUR DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT.

OH, MY FIRST STARTER, WE DIDN'T HAVE REVENUE, SO I THINK THERE WAS FIVE OR SEVEN.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. I WAS THINKING SIX OR SEVEN.

I WILL SAY THAT I ABSOLUTELY FEEL SUPPORTED HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE HAVE ADDED A ANOTHER ADDITIONAL PERSON IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO ADDED TWO PEOPLE IN HOUSING, AND THAT IS MADE A TREMENDOUS HELP WITH THE PAY PLAN STUDY AND ALSO THE SUPPORT OF CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

HOUSING IS VERY UNIQUE AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE RETIRING THAN GETTING INTO IT.

SO KNOWING THE FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS IS VERY IMPORTANT SO THAT THE UNIQUENESS OF THOSE POSITIONS HAS ALLOWED US TO PAY A LITTLE BIT

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SO I ACTUALLY WROTE AS PART OF MY RESPONSE TO THE COUNTY WITH THIS CURRENT STAFF THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE FIF OVER.

IT WAS 58 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE HOUSING DIVISION RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP US OUT OF TROUBLE BECAUSE WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE RULES.

SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S THERE IS THREE OF US NOW DOING THAT ONE REALLY FULL TIME, WHICH IS DANIELLE KRATZ, WHO'S JUST GOT PROMOTED AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.

THERE'S A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO DO.

SO WE ARE WE'RE REALLY BUSY WITH THAT AS WELL AS THE HOUSING.

BUT I THINK ONCE WE START TO GET CAUGHT UP, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON VERY, VERY QUICKLY WITH HOUSING, IT SHOULD RUN A LOT SMOOTHER.

WE JUST COMPLETED OUR 1920 SHIP FUNDS, SO WE'RE WE'RE THREE YEARS.

WE'RE GETTING THERE. WHEN I STARTED, WE WERE ABOUT SIX YEARS.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION AND I KNEW I KNEW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE ADDED SINCE THEN BECAUSE THAT COUNCIL AT THE TIME, WE ALL WE ALL WELL, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO WASN'T THERE YET, BUT THE FOUR OF US ALL AGREE THAT THIS DEPARTMENT, NOTHING AGAINST THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, IS HONESTLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN DEPARTMENTS. BECAUSE OF YOU HAVE A HAND IN EVERYTHING.

YOU HAVE A HAND IN BRINGING ROGUE VALLEY, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP US.

YOU HAVE A HAND IN HELPING THOSE IN NEED WITH HOUSING, HELPING LOW, YOU KNOW, WITH LOW INCOME.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CDBG FUNDING, WE JUST HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF NONPROFITS THAT ARE DOING A LOT OF GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IT GOES THROUGH YOU.

SO SINCE THAT WORK, SINCE THAT COUNCIL MEETING, WE'VE ADDED POSITIONS AND WE'RE STILL THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR MORE IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE'RE MAKING STRIDES TOWARDS THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU, NANCY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ALL STAFF.

YOU KNOW, I COME BY AND SAY HI ALL THE TIME.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. AND TO THAT END, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, WE DIDN'T MENTION THE CORRECTION ACTIONS THAT WE HAD TO DO FOR THE.

HOMES FOR WARRIORS PROJECTS.

AND AND THAT THAT WHOLE FIASCO TOOK SUCH A HEAVY LIFT IS HOW I REMEMBER IT.

AND AND WE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

SO YEAH AND I DO WANT TO MENTION THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE INSP PROGRAM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION STABILIZATION PROGRAM.

700,000 OF THAT IS GETTING TRANSFERRED INTO THE CDBG, WHICH IS FULLY FUNDING THE $1,000,001.1 MILLION FIRE.

QUINT SO THAT IS FULLY FUNDED BY OUR GRANT FUNDS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. BILL BATTEN. WE'RE ON NUMBER EIGHT.

YEAH. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVE SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW WE'RE ON NUMBER NINE, SIR.

[9. Consideration of reallocating funds from the Utilities Operating Undesignated Fund Balance to Utilities Renewal and Replacement Reserves to maintain a fund balance and cover increases to capital projects ($1,657,000).]

1.6 MILLION.

I NOTICE THAT THE CHUNK OF CHANGE.

WHAT I AM HAPPY ABOUT, THOUGH, IS THIS COMES OUT OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT COME OUT OF MY AD VALOREM TAX.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME FEEL RELATIVELY COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER, SO I'M NOT PAYING INTO THIS.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A $1.6 MILLION INCREASE JUST BECAUSE OF INFLATION, I'M CURIOUS HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IF WE'RE ONLY INTO THE FIRST MONTH OF THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE'RE NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING IT, HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT ON MY TOTAL END BUDGET. WHAT WE'RE PLANNING NOW.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF PRIOR PLANNING BASED ON THE INFLATIONARY RATE THAT'S IMPACTING ON OUR ROADS AND OUR UTILITIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS ITEM ACTUALLY IT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT.

THIS MONEY SHOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN BUILT INTO THE BUDGET AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO BRING THIS ITEM TO YOU.

SO THAT WAS JUST A MISTAKE ON ON OUR PART.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE VERY MUCH AWARE AND TRACKING ON OUR VARIOUS PROJECTS HOW THERE ARE INCREASED COSTS BECAUSE OF PARTS AND LABOR AND INFLATION, ETC.. AND SO WE'VE BEEN PLANNING ACCORDINGLY.

YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WITH REGARD TO OUR ROAD BOND PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE INCREASED COST THERE.

SO THIS, WE BELIEVE, WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO DO THIS, THIS TRANSFER TO COVER THE PENDING PROJECTS THAT ARE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT NEED SOME EXTRA FUNDS THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS TOO, IS THAT THE UTILITIES OPERATING FUND FROM WHICH THIS MONEY IS TRANSFERRED IS VERY STABLE, VERY HEALTHY, GOOD RESERVES.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED ON MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH NOW ON NUMBER TEN, MR.

[10. Consideration of utilizing Stormwater Utility Funds to provide additional funding for the Walden at C-42 Culvert Replacement, Project 22SU02 ($200,000).]

I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT UNDER THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE THAT WE'RE NOW COLLECTING SOME MONEY FROM MORE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF THE PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, YOU'RE YOUR TAX EXEMPT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE USING THE STORM WATER UTILITY.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT LIST GOT SHORTENED FROM THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY THAT NOW HAVE TO PAY.

BUT WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT $200,000 FOR ONE FOR ONE CULVERT, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF AN INCREASE WAS THAT WHICH KIND OF REVERTS BACK TO MY PREVIOUS QUESTION OF WATCHING THE INFLATION OF CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY? IF $200,000 ON ONE CULVERT.

HOW ARE WE GOING? YOU KNOW, I'M JUST PARANOID BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE OTHER CULVERTS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO GET PUT IN THE GROUND FOR THE FINISHING OUT OF THE ROAD PROJECT. IF EACH ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 200 K TACKED ON TO EACH ONE OF THE CULVERTS, SO LET ME KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS WE'RE INCREASING BY.

AND THEN ME BEING THE IDIOT I AM, I'LL START LOOKING AT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF ROADS WON'T GET COMPLETED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CULVERTS IN THE GROUND.

THANK YOU. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO GIVE A PERCENTAGE ANSWER.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS EVERY PROJECT IS VERY DIFFERENT.

THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE INVOLVED, WHICH CONCRETE WAS THE PRIMARY REASON THIS ONE IS INCREASING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO JUST QUANTIFY AS A NUMBER YOU CAN THEN USE AND APPLY TO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING, INCLUDING IF YOU TRY TO BRING THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS INTO THAT.

THEY DON'T ALL USE THE SAME AMOUNTS OF CONCRETE IN THE MIX AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I'M SORRY TO GIVE YOU SORT OF A NON ANSWER, BUT.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD NUMBER THAT I CAN GIVE YOU WITH CONFIDENCE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I NEED A MOTION.

THE SECOND.

AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALBERTO. ALBERTO, AS YOU WERE.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS.

JUST WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO DO IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO IFS BUTS ABOUT IT.

IT'S WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, BECAUSE THERE ARE THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE GREAT DRAINAGE AND THERE ARE AREAS THAT.

NOT SO MUCH. SO THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO BASICALLY WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID, WE DO HAVE TO DO THIS.

I'M ALL FOR THIS.

BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND I WANT THE POLICE AND FIRE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS THIS IS A MAIN ARTERY OR MAIN CORRIDOR INTO BAYSIDE LAKES.

SO WITH STATION FOUR BEING RIGHT THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A WRAP AROUND TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY ANY EMERGENCY, I BELIEVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF PLAN, EVEN WITH FRANK.

HOW LONG IS THIS PROJECT GOING TO TAKE? YEAH, SO I CAN BRING FRANK UP.

UM, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE THE DETOURS, AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL.

AS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT THIS ONE OUT TO BID.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET IT DONE FASTER.

BUT YES. GOOD EVENING, FRANK.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE ENGINEER JUST A STANDARD.

THESE ARE LARGE BOX CULVERTS.

THE PIPE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVERALL IS THREE CURRENTLY 372 INCH PIPES.

THE SECOND ONE'S FAILED.

SO WE NEED TO JUMP ON THIS ONE IF THE PIPE.

HAS A MAJOR STORM AND IT GETS BLOWN OUT.

THE OTHER TWO WILL GO WITH IT.

THEN WE'LL LOSE THE ROAD. AND SO WE'LL BE IN A WORSE CONDITION WITH THE SITUATION WITH A LARGER HOLE.

WE KEPT OUR FINGERS CROSSED IN THE HURRICANES AND WE WERE LUCKY.

SO NOW WE'RE READY TO GO.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REGARDING TIME FRAME, TYPICALLY WE HAVE THESE PROJECTS DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND THE UNIQUENESS BASED ON UTILITIES CONSTRAINTS.

WE USUALLY GO UP BETWEEN 150 TO 180 TO 220 DAYS.

THIS ONE IS 180 DAYS FOR SUBSTANTIAL, 210 FOR FINAL.

WE ALWAYS HOLD A 30 DAY MAXIMUM TO CLOSE THE ROAD AND GET THE CULVERTS PLACED IN.

THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO MANUFACTURE IT, SHIP IT IN, CRANE AND IN, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A 30 DAY WINDOW TO CLOSE THE ROAD AND THEN TO INSTALL THE CULVERT PIPE, BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE A ROAD BECAUSE THE ENTIRE CULVERT.

THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU KNOW THIS AREA, THERE'S ONLY TWO WAYS TO GET AROUND.

NOW YOU GO NORTH TO WACO, WHICH IS FOUR MILES.

IT GOES SOUTH TO KOGAN, WHICH IS SEVEN MILES.

SO IT'S A HUGE DETOUR AND WE'RE AWARE OF IT.

WEST I YEAH, THERE ARE SOME SMALLER ROADS, BUT WE KEEP DETOURS TO THEIR MAJOR COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS.

BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE.

[02:15:01]

SO IT'S THIS TIME. NOW TO THE REST OF THEM.

WHAT IS COLLAPSE? THANK YOU, FRANK, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT ON THAT.

I JUST WANT TO BRING UP MY CONCERN.

I KNOW THIS HAS TO HAPPEN.

I'D RATHER GET IT DONE.

BE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE.

IF WE CAN GET DONE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

I KNOW YOU'RE LIKE SAYING WE HOLD IT TO 30 DAYS, AND WHEN THE FUTURE CONTRACTS, WE PUT TIGHTER CONSTRAINTS AND WE HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES.

WHEN WE HIT SUBSTANTIAL, WE COULD DO THAT.

SAME IF WE WANT TO TIGHTEN IT UP TO THE 30 DAYS, WE COULD TALK TO JULIETTE AND START ADDING MORE CONSTRAINTS JUST ON THE CONSTRUCTION WINDOW.

WE DO THAT TOO. NOT AFFECTING QUALITY, OBVIOUSLY, SIR.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO, MR. WATANABE, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I REMEMBER.

THE COUNTY. ARE HAD TO EXPEDITE MITTON ROAD AND PALM BAY ROAD.

CORRECT. AND THEY REALLY DID EXPEDITE THAT.

THAT WAS I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE CULVERT, RIGHT? SO I LIKEN IT TO THAT BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY OF BAYSIDE LAKES THAT SO THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT ON HOW WE COULD EXPEDITE THAT.

AND THAT'S HOW WE SAID WHEN WE BID IT OUT, WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT 30 DAY WINDOW HE MANUFACTURED, HE ORDERS IT, MANUFACTURES AND GETS THAT CULVERT SHIPPED BEFORE WE CLOSE THAT ROAD. AT THE SAME TIME, HE WANTS TO PRETTY MUCH FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, HE WANTS TO HAVE THE WHOLE DUG BE READY TO JUST BASICALLY BRING THE TRUCKS IN AND CRANE THE BOXES IN. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE SAFEST AND EASIEST WAY.

SO THAT 30 DAY WINDOW COULD BE TIGHTER.

BUT WE TRY TO HOLD IT TO THE 30 DAY WINDOW.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SINGING BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]

LAST MEETING, WE WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION BEFORE US FOR THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

AND AND I KNOW THAT STAFF BOUGHT IT FORWARD TO US.

AND SOME OF OUR COMMENTS WERE IT WAS INCOMPLETE BUT YET STAFF OUR STAFF FELT FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT IT WAS COMPLETE ENOUGH. SO I HAVE REALLY.

I'M VOICING MY CONCERNS THAT WE'RE NOW RANKING WHEN THERE WAS ONE APPLICATION AND THERE'S THERE'S AN ORDER THAT THERE COULD BE AN INJUSTICE DONE HERE WHEN WE PUT TWO APPLICATIONS TOGETHER NOW, WHEN QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THE APPLICATION WAS COMPLETE.

OR DANIEL ACOSTA WAS ONE OF THE APPLICANTS.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS HOW I FEEL.

I THINK IF WE MOVE DOWN IN RANKING THIS, I THINK IT'S WRONG.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD ONE APPLICATION LAST WEEK AND IF AND IT WARRANTS HIM GETTING THAT THAT POSITION.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, I WANTED TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK IF HIS APPLICATION, WHEN WE VIEWED IT LAST WEEK, WAS CONSIDERED COMPLETE ENOUGH.

MADAM. MADAM TERESE.

YES. MARIN COUNCIL.

I HAD SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL AFTER LAST AFTER THE LAST MEETING REGARDING MR. ACOSTA'S APPLICATION, AND AS NOTED, THE ONLY ROUTE MY OFFICE.

WE REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS NOT FOR COMPLETENESS, BUT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE INDIVIDUAL MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD.

MR.. MR.. ACOSTA FOR THE COMMUNITY, I'M SORRY THAT COMMUNITY CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD, THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR AND BE A REGISTERED VOTER.

MR. ACOSTA DID MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

THEREFORE, HIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, THAT IS COUNCIL'S DECISION.

AS TO WHETHER IT WANTS TO ACCEPT AN APPLICATION.

YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO APPOINT ANYONE.

YOU CAN HAVE STAFF SOLICIT FURTHER FOR ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS TO BE CONSIDERED AT A FUTURE MEETING.

BUT AT THAT PARTICULAR MEETING, MR. ACOSTA'S APPLICATION DID MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

EXCUSE ME. SO WITH THOSE COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM.

I JUST HAVE THIS.

YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A FAIR PROCESS AT THIS TIME.

SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

I WAS GOOD WITH MR. ACOSTA BEING APPOINTED TO THAT CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOUR COMMENTS ARE VERY WELL NOTED, SIR, AND TO SOME EXTENT I AGREE.

BUT AS ALL CLARKE.

LILY MENTIONED THAT WE AS A BODY, WE APPOINT WE HAVE THE POWER OF APPOINTMENT.

[02:20:02]

I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE BROUGHT THE ARGUMENT OF THE.

YOU KNOW, APPLICATION NOT BEING COMPLETE.

MY VIEW WAS A BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT I COULDN'T SUPPORT MR. ACOSTA'S. HE WOULD.

HE DID NOT MY SUPPORT, NOT BASED ON THE BASIS OF.

THE APPLICATION NOT BEING COMPLETE.

I JUST PERSONALLY FELT IT WASN'T A GOOD FIT.

IT WOULD NOT HAVE MY SUPPORT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE WILL.

THAT'S THE POWER THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF MY APPOINTMENT.

SO WE APPOINT FOLKS THAT WE WOULD FILLED THAT WOULD SERVE THAT PARTICULAR POSITION THAT WE APPOINTED THEM TO.

AND FOR THAT THOSE REASONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON I JUST FIT THAT IN, WOULDN'T SERVE WELL IN THAT PARTICULAR POSITION.

OKAY, SO I'LL I'LL GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THE RANK SHEET.

MANY ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.

I'M WAITING FOR A MOTION THERE.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO PROVIDE THE RANKS.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE SUBMITTED.

I'M. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY, SO THE MOTION IS TO APPOINT MR. JEFF MCCLOUD TO THE POSITION OF CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX TAKEN BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? AS I STATED, THAT'S THE CERTAINTY OF.

THE LEEWAY THAT WE HAVE AS COUNCIL MEMBER TO APPOINT FOLKS THAT WE FEEL THAT WOULD SERVE DIFFERENT BOARDS.

SO MR. COSTA WOULD HAVE MY SUPPORT.

I'M CHECKING THAT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, I THINK YOU SAID IT BETTER THAN I WOULD HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF MR. ACOSTA GOT A FAIR SHAKE OR NOT.

HOWEVER, HE HAD MY SUPPORT.

HE STILL HAS MY SUPPORT TO BE ON THIS BOARD.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I ALL OPPOSED.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY, NAY, NAY.

SO I WANT A ROLL CALL ON THIS, JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX I COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I. COUNCILMAN FOSTER I.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

HEY, MAYOR MEDINA MAY OK THE SO PASSES 3 TO 2.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS]

THAT'S ZERO FOR A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO DEVELOP AN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, ESTABLISHING A CONCEALED CARRY POLICY FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU, MS.. SMITH, DEPUTY OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE COULD BE MORE PROACTIVE IN PROTECTING, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR, OUR CITY AS WELL AS OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND I FEEL, YOU KNOW, AS IF CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO HAVE CONCEALED CARRY.

I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR CITIZENS WHO BECOME EMPLOYEES WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY SHOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP THOSE RIGHTS.

SO I FEEL, YOU KNOW, PRIME EXAMPLE, PEOPLE GET UPSET WITH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, PEOPLE GET UPSET WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, PEOPLE GET UPSET WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

AND IF A SITUATION COMES WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH ONE OF THEM OR SOMETHING, I WOULD HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS AS A REGISTERED CONCEALED CARRY CARRIER, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, EXERCISE THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES SO THAT WAY THEY CAN GET BACK HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR LOVED ONES.

SO I UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT BE SOME HESITANCY MOVING FORWARD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FLORIDA STATUTE IS CLEAR ON WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO.

SO WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THAT.

BUT IF OUR COUNTY'S HAD IT IN PLACE SINCE 2016 AND HAVE HAD NO INCIDENTS, AND OTHER THAN THAT, IT REQUIRES GUN SAFETY COURSES ON HOW WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO. SO I FEEL IF WE CAN TRUST OUR EMPLOYEES ENOUGH TO GIVE THEM A PAY RAISE THAT WE DID, I THINK WE CAN TRUST THOSE THAT FEEL THEY WANT TO CONCEAL CARRY TO KEEP THEMSELVES SAFE.

AND THIS IS OPTIONAL.

OF COURSE THIS IS OPTIONAL.

AND. THEY SHOULD BE TRAINED.

I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. COMMON CARDS.

YES. MR. BATTEN.

SILVERTON. 586.

OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

[02:25:02]

IT DOES TWO THINGS.

ONE FORCES ME TO BE A LITTLE BIT LESS AGGRESSIVE IN THE APPROACH.

AND TWO, IT'S THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IF THEY ARE.

THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I APPROACH IT.

NOW I SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION, THOUGH, ALSO.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE FIREARMS. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THAT'S THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.

BUT THE OLD SEGMENT THAT SAYS IF YOU IF YOU WANT A GUN AND IT'S LEGAL, YOU GET IT.

IF YOU DON'T WANT A GUN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IT.

THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.

BUT WHEN YOU START MANDATING BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT IT, YOU START MANDATING ON SOMEBODY ELSE THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE IT.

THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOW INFRINGING UPON THEM AND THEIR RIGHTS.

AND THAT'S WHERE I SEE THE BIGGEST CONFLICT IN THIS.

SO CALM HEADS.

ASSUME EVERYBODY IS CARRYING AND GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO STOP YOUR BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SPEAKER, THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

IT'S JUST NICE. ROBERTS, 1796.

ONE BIG DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

MR. JOHNSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US UP AS A CONCEALED CARRY LICENSE.

CONCEALED CARRY. YOU LOOK ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T WATCH THE NEWS TODAY WITHOUT SEEING A SHOOTING, A DEATH PREVENTABLE.

I HAD IT NOW TWO WEEKS AGO.

I YES, I EVEN I MUST HAVE CUT SOMEBODY OFF AND REALIZE I DID.

I THOUGHT I WAS A PERFECT DRIVER, BUT MUST HAVE CUT SOMEBODY OFF.

I LOOKED IN MY REARVIEW MIRROR.

THIS GUY'S RIGHT ON MY GRILL, AND I'M THINKING, I'M SLOW.

I PUT MY HAND UP. SORRY.

I MUST HAVE.

YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE YOU.

ANYWAY, HE'S RIDING ME.

AND THEN HE PULLS OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, ACTUALLY PULLS IN FRONT OF ME WHEN I'M TRYING TO MAKE A TURN, GETS OUT OF HIS CAR.

HE'S A BIG GUY. I HAD A CONCEALED CARRY ON ME AT THE TIME.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS DISCONNECT AND PUT IT IN REVERSE.

BACKED UP. AND HE GOT IN HIS CAR.

I DON'T WANT TO GO WHERE I DON'T WANT TO GO.

IF YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

BUT, MR. FORSTER, YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING BEFORE THAT YOU HATE GUNS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CARRY A GUN IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.

GUY IS OUT OF THE CAR.

HE'S WALKING TOWARDS ME.

HE'S NOT WISHING ME A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

OKAY. I HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND MYSELF.

WE LIVE IN A VIOLENT SOCIETY.

WE LIVE IN A VIOLENT STATE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY, IF YOU SO DESIRE, TO GET YOUR PROPER TRAINING.

WE'VE GOT SOME VETERANS HERE TO GET THE PROPER TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND YOURSELF.

I JUST STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE PEOPLE THAT GET GETTING CONCEALED CARRY.

THE VETERANS AT THE AMERICAN LEGION ARE WILLING TO HELP PROVIDE TRAINING ON THAT.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT ALL OVER.

THERE'S STUFF THAT YOU CAN BUY AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

THERE'S CLASSES YOU CAN BUY.

THEY TAKE YOU DOWN THE RANGE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO WHEN YOU DO GET THAT, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE BLOOD PRESSURE GOES UP.

YOU WANT TO JUST LEAN ON YOUR TRAINING.

YOU'RE A MARINE, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT YOU JUST GET TRAINED TO TO GRAB THAT AND DEFEND YOURSELF.

SO IT'S CRITICAL.

LIFE'S TOO SHORT TO HAVE IT TAKEN FROM YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT THE LAST. OKAY.

I NEED MOST. SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I'VE MADE ALL THE POINTS, MAYOR, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR SECOND.

YES, SIR. I'M. I'M FULLY ON BOARD.

I BELIEVE IN PROTECTING LIFE AND BEING RESPONSIBLE.

AND SO FOLLOWING OUR POLICIES, OF COURSE, YOU STILL CAN'T CARRY IN CHAMBERS IF YOU FOLLOW THE STATE LAW, BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO EQUIP AND PROTECT YOURSELF.

SO I DID I DO SUPPORT THIS.

AND WHEN YOU FIRST BROUGHT IT UP, I YOU HAD MY SUPPORT THEN, AND I FULLY ENGAGE IN THAT TODAY.

NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO NOW ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL MAYOR FOR FOR STAFF ALBERTO AND THEN COUNCILMAN FOSTER IN THAT ORDER FOR STAFF IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR, IF IF THIS IS PASSED TONIGHT, IT'S ONE OF THE.

[02:30:03]

SO. I GUESS.

LET ME LET ME BACK UP. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, IS WE WILL BE CREATING AN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY PART OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE AGENDA MEMO CALLS FOR.

THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE WILL PROVIDE THE CRITERIA UNDER WHICH ANY CONCEALED CARRY HOLDER WILL BE PERMITTED TO FUNCTION WITHIN THE THE EMPLOYEE GROUP. SO THERE WILL BE CLEAR REFERENCES TO WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WHAT YOU CAN'T DO, PLACES YOU CAN AND CANNOT GO ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTES.

WE WILL BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE'LL HAVE MORE FROM STAFF, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE TO ANSWER ALL OF THOSE THROUGH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY ENDORSING OR PROMOTING, I WOULD USE THE WORD EDUCATE BECAUSE WE WILL BE SHARING WITH THE ENTIRE EMPLOYEE POPULATION.

THIS IS YOUR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

THIS IS THE PARADIGM UNDER WHICH WE NOW OPERATE AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IS FULLY AWARE OF WHAT THAT MEANS TO THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT HOLDER OR NOT.

I ALSO WILL CLARIFY, AS I THINK I MENTIONED, ALL ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL IN OUR BRIEFINGS, THAT WE, THE CITY AS AN EMPLOYER, WILL NOT BE TAKING ON RESPONSIBILITY FOR ACTUAL TRAINING TO ACHIEVE A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT, NOR WILL WE DO ANY KIND OF ONGOING TRAINING FOR YOU AS A CONCEALED CARRY HOLDER TO PRACTICE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

THE TRAINING WE WILL BE PROVIDING WILL BE RELATED TO WHAT YOU DO AS AN EMPLOYEE.

IF YOU ARE A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT HOLDER AND YOU HAVE YOUR WEAPON WITH YOU AND YOU ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE RESPONDING, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR WEAPON AND HOW YOU INTERACT WITH THE OFFICERS.

BECAUSE AS OUR CHIEF AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, WE DON'T KNOW ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEY DON'T ALL KNOW EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF WHO'S DOING WHAT IN A SITUATION.

SO SO I GUESS TO SOME SUMMARIZE, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR LIABILITY IN THE WORKPLACE AND THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE THE CONCEPT OF CONCEALED CARRY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HOW WE'RE HANDLING IT AND MANAGING THE PROCESS.

SO WE'LL BE EDUCATING, BUT WE WILL NOT BE PROMOTING IT IN ANY WAY OTHER THAN THAT, SIR.

THANK YOU. I'LL FOLLOW UP QUESTION WITH THAT.

AND I HAVE TO PLAY A SCENARIO HERE.

BUT GOD FORBID THAT A CITY WHO'S WORKING FOR AN EMPLOYEE, WHO'S WORKING FOR THE CITY AND IS ON ON THE JOB AND HE HAS TO USE HIS FIREARM, DOES THIS WILL THE CITY BACK HIM LEGALLY OR BACK THEM IN ANY WAY? OR. OH, UH, PRAY DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT, SIR.

SIR. ONE OF THE CONCERNS AND CERTAINLY WILL BE SOMETHING THAT EMPLOYEES WILL BE EDUCATED UPON, IS HEARING A FIREARM IS A.

PART OF THE JOBS, OF COURSE, OF SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

IT IS A INTEGRAL PART OF THEIR POSITION.

THIS. POLICY DOESN'T CHANGE ANYBODY'S POSITION.

WHAT IS THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNSEL IS ATTEMPTING TO ALLOW THESE EMPLOYEES THE OPTION TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL BENEFIT.

SO IF THEY'RE DOING IT FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL BENEFIT.

IS NOT IN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PROTECTIONS IF AS.

LAWS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO ARE USING THEIR FIREARMS IN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM ATTORNEY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO ABSOLVE ALL LIABILITY OF THE CITY IF SOMEONE WHO'S WORKING AS A CITY EMPLOYEE AND DISCHARGES THEIR FIREARM.

THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO BE LIABLE.

AM I. AM I CORRECT IN STATING THAT? CERTAINLY I WOULD THINK THAT IF IT HAPPENS, MORE LIKELY THAN NOT SOMEONE'S GOING TO SUE THE CITY AS WELL.

BUT IN A PRIOR CASE WHERE WE HAD SOMETHING WHERE AN EMPLOYEE WAS NOT ACTING WITHIN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT, THE CITY DEFENDED UPON THAT BASIS AND DID NOT PROVIDE ANY REPRESENTATION FOR THE EMPLOYEE BECAUSE EMPLOYEES GET REPRESENTATION FROM THE BASED ON THE TAXPAYERS WHEN THEY'RE ACTING WITHIN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT.

IF THEY'RE NOT ACTING WITHIN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT, THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO HAVE THEIR ATTORNEY'S FEES COST PAID BY THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

IF YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL BENEFIT, THEN YOU.

[02:35:02]

AND THIS WOULDN'T BE ANY DIFFERENT.

OKAY. SO WHEN AN EMPLOYEE CARRIES A FIREARM AT WORK WEARING A PALM BAY UNIFORM, THAT IS THEIR PERSONAL DECISION.

IS THAT IS THAT WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU'RE STATING IF THAT UNIFORM IS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT? YES. IT'S NOT WITHIN.

CORRECT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE ANYBODY OTHER THAN SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HAVE A GUN.

SO IT'S NOT WHAT THEIR JOB IS.

NO PERSON'S JOB IS CERTAINLY GOING TO REQUIRE THAT.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THE COURSE OF THEIR SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT FOR THEM TO HAVE A FIREARM OR TO DISCHARGE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM ATTORNEY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO HAVE LIABILITY FOR A CONCEALED WEAPON CARRY PERMIT EMPLOYEE TO BE CARRYING A GUN BESIDES THE OFFICERS.

SO OBVIOUSLY I'M EXCLUDING OFFICERS, BUT I JUST WANT TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HEY.

RIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. OH, NO.

AS YOU WERE. COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS NEXT.

YEAH. I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE LONG ON THIS IF YOU WANT TO LET HIM GO.

I YIELD, BUT GO AHEAD.

CARRY ON. OKAY, WELL.

FIRST OF ALL. I WANTED TO RESPOND TO MR. ROBERTS. I SAID, I DON'T LIKE FIREARMS. I'M AGAINST FIREARMS. THIS IS MY CONCEALED WEAPON CARRY CARD EXPIRES 2025.

I CARRIED A FIREARM MORE THAN 828 YEARS.

THE MILITARY. MILITARY POLICE.

UM, AND ALSO ALL TYPES OF FIREARM WEAPONS AND.

IN THE WAR ZONE.

AND AS A US MARSHAL.

OVER 20 YEARS.

AND I'M VERY, VERY GOOD.

I'M A PRETTY GOOD SHOT BECAUSE YOU WIN MY TIME AS A U.S.

MARSHAL. I ACTUALLY WORKED I LEFT THE MARSHALS AND WENT BECOME AN AIR MARSHAL.

AND THE AIR MARSHALS HAVE TO BE ALMOST A 90% ACCURACY TO GET HIRED ON THAT JOB.

AND WHEN I WENT TO THE AIR MARSHALS, I WAS ONLY AT 75%.

ACCURACY ON A TARGET PRACTICE.

I'M NOT SURE. MY POINT IS, I KNOW HOW TO SHOOT A FIREARM.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE OWNING FIREARMS. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT OWN FIREARMS. THEY'RE VERY GOOD FRIENDS OF MINE.

SOME OF THEM HAVE ASSAULT WEAPONS.

ONE YESTERDAY BOUGHT AN ASSAULT WEAPON.

YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE. HE BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS STUPID.

HE WAS AFRAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BAN ALL ASSAULT WEAPONS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT THAT FROM.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BAN THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

SO AND I AND I DO HAVE A FIREARM.

I DON'T I'M NOT CARRYING ONE ON ME NOW.

NO NEED. BUT.

THIS THIS WILL BE ABOUT TO VOTE ON IS CRAZY.

VISITING THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR LIABILITY.

BECAUSE NO BULLET HAS NOBODY NAME ON IT.

I COULD POINT A GUN AT YOU AND SHOOT YOU BECAUSE YOU THREATENED ME.

STAND YOUR GROUND. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH STAND YOUR GROUND.

BEEN AN EXPERT WITNESS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR SIX YEARS.

I TESTIFY IN SOME CASES ON STAND YOUR GROUND.

OKAY, SO THIS.

THIS. AS AN EMPLOYEE, YOU HAVE YOU CARRIED A LIABILITY.

OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

YOUR ACTIONS.

I DON'T CARE IF YOU A POLICE OFFICER OR A SECRETARY OR WHATEVER JOB YOU'RE DOING IN THE CITY, YOU'RE GOING TO CARRY LIABILITY.

TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN IN TOO MANY COURTROOMS TESTIFYING AGAINST PEOPLE THAT USE FIREARMS OR INDIVIDUALS.

SO WE ARE NOT WE ARE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR.

SOMEONE TO GET HURT.

IF A EMPLOYEE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH AN INDIVIDUAL, GET ON THE PHONE, CALL THE POLICE.

THAT'S WHY WE PAY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO DO THE PROTECT AND SERVE.

YOU PAY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO PROTECT AND SERVE.

DARN THE BLUE UNIFORM, THE WORD OF BASH.

THEY GO THROUGH ALL TYPES OF FIREARM TRAINING AND THEY KNOW HOW TO DE-ESCALATE.

THEY GET DEESCALATE TRAINING.

THE BEST THING WE COULD DO IS TO GIVE OUR EMPLOYEE DE-ESCALATING TRAINING.

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AND HOW MANY YEARS, HOW MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE PASSED AWAY IN 2020? 2022. BY DEATH OF FIREARMS OFFICERS CARRY FIREARMS. THAT'S PART OF THEIR EQUIPMENT.

AND THEY GET SHOT AND KILLED WITH FIREARMS FROM A SUSPECT.

SO MY POINT WHY I SAY THAT IS A FIREARMS. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU SAFE.

I'VE BEEN SHOT AT THREE TIMES AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

LESS THAN SIX FEET.

AND I HAD A GUN ON ME.

THANK GOD I DIDN'T SHOOT THE PERSON THAT WAS SHOOTING AT ME, BUT I DID ARREST THEM.

A FIREARM DOESN'T MAKE YOU SAFE.

AND IT DON'T PROTECT YOU.

IT CAN STOP A THREAT.

IT DOES NOT PROTECT YOUR LIFE.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO BRING UP ONE OF THE THE CHIEF I COULD BRING UP THE MADAM SERMON.

CAN I BRING UP THE MADAM SERMON? YES. OUR POLICE CHIEF, MARIO JOAO.

WE'LL COME UP.

GOOD EVENING, CHIEF.

YOU'VE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PASS? YES. I'M ASKING YOUR PERSONAL OPINION.

IT'S YOUR PERSONAL OPINION. I WANT TO HEAR YOUR PERSONAL OPINION.

YOU SUPPORT THIS ITEM.

DO I SUPPORT THE ITEM IN TERMS OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE FOR CONCEALED CARRY FOR PALM BAY EMPLOYEES? YES. WELL, IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, ISN'T.

WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE? WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE FOR ME IS SAFETY.

SO FOR ME, THIS ISN'T ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

THIS IS ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

THIS, FOR ME, IS ABOUT EDUCATING OUR EMPLOYEES AND PROVIDING AS MUCH SAFETY AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL ENDS UP GOING, I'LL SUPPORT IT.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND AS LONG AS WE PROVIDE THEM WITH THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION THAT'S NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE, NOTHING'S ABSOLUTE.

BUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

BUT THE SAFETY CONCERN IS.

WHY YOU HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT THIS ITEM.

FIREARMS. I HAVE A SAFETY CONCERNS EVEN WITH MY OFFICERS, WITH FIREARMS. MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROPERLY TRAINED AND EDUCATED AND.

WELL, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU SERVED WITH PALM BAY? ALMOST 24 YEARS. 24 YEARS? HAVE ANY OF YOUR OFFICERS WHO'S TRAINED WITH A FIREARM EVER HAD AN ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE? YES. IF ANYBODY GOT HURT DURING THAT ACCIDENT.

THIS SHARK? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.

BUT THESE ARE TRAINED OFFICERS, SO THEY SHOULD KNOW HOW TO HANDLE WEAPONS.

CORRECT. YOU TRAIN THEM AND THEY QUALIFY EVERY YEAR, MAYBE TWICE A YEAR.

AND HAVE YOU KNOWN CIVILIANS HAVE AN ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE? HAVE YOU EVER RESPOND TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? ABSOLUTELY. IF ANYBODY GOT HURT.

AND THEM ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE, MAINLY THE INDIVIDUAL THAT DISCHARGED THE WEAPON THEMSELVES.

YES. YES. AND YOU'VE SEEN TRAINING VIDEOS OF PEOPLE HANDLING FIREARMS, SHOOTING THEIR SELF? YES. AND MOST.

YOUR BESIDES YOUR DUTY WEAPON, YOU OWN FIREARMS YOURSELF.

I DO. OKAY.

AS A FILE HOLDER.

A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO SHOW OFF THEIR FIREARM.

BUT YOU SAY THAT. PERSONAL PREFERENCES.

I GUESS IT'S ALWAYS OUT THERE.

THEY BOUGHT A NEW GUN OR THE LATEST MODEL THEY WANT TO.

HEY, LOOK WHAT I GOT.

THAT'S WHERE ACCIDENT DISCHARGE HAPPENED.

MISHANDLING A WEAPON.

SO THE REASON I BROUGHT YOU UP HERE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN.

YOU HAVE A LIABILITY TO CONCERN.

WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CONCERN, BUT THAT'S NOT MY ARENA IN TERMS OF LIABILITY.

MY ARENA IS TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY IS SAFE.

AND MY ARENA AND MY RESPONSIBILITY AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR PALM BAY IS TO ENSURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES FEEL SAFE AND ARE SAFE.

AND IF THIS REQUIRES THAT IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD BY COUNCIL, IT'S ENSURE THAT THERE IS TRAINING AND EDUCATION PROVIDED TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

TRAINING AS FAR AS HANDLING A FIREARM.

TRAINING ON WHAT TO DO IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.

AS CITY MANAGER, MS..

SHERMAN MENTIONED. SHOULD WE RESPOND TO A SCENE?

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NOT SAYING THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE CARRYING ONE CCW, BUT THOSE THAT MAY IF THIS DOES PASS, WE DON'T KNOW EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY OR DID THEY KNOW US.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

OR IF THE MEASURE OF WHAT TO DO IS IN PLACE.

WELL, IT COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE AN OFFICER ARRIVES ON THE SCENE.

IT COULD BE 100 SCENARIOS, SIR.

IT COULD BE 100 SCENARIOS.

SOMEBODY CARRYING A FIREARM? ABSOLUTELY. MORE LIKELY OFFICERS GOING TO.

YOU KNOW, PULL HIS WEAPON.

DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION. YEAH, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION.

BUT IF SOMEONE BEEN SHOT AND YOU ARRIVED ON THE SCENE, YOU'RE GOING TO PROTECT YOURSELF.

AND YOU EXPECT YOUR OFFICERS TO CHECK THIS OUT? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.

YOU SO.

ONCE AGAIN. THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU ONCE AGAIN.

WE ARE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR LIABILITY.

WE SO MANY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING GOOD COMING OUT OF IT.

ONE COULDN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES, PULLED A CONCEALED WEAPON, SHOOT SOMEONE.

AS FAR AS LIABILITY CONCERNED, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CITY AS FAR AS PROSECUTING THAT PERSON.

IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE STATE ATTORNEY OFFICE.

WELL, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, THE CITY ALLOWED ME TO CARRY THIS WEAPON SO THAT APPARENTLY THEY ALLOW ME TO PROTECT MYSELF.

THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DON'T.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO ONCE AGAIN.

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 14TH AMENDMENT.

CAN'T CARRY A FIREARM IN THE STATE CAPITOL.

CAN CARRY A FIREARM IN THE US CAPITOL.

YOU CAN'T CARRY A FIRE ON BOARD A PLANE UNLESS YOU LAW ENFORCEMENT.

YOU CAN'T CARRY A FIREARM IN THIS CHAMBER.

AND YOU'RE CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON.

A LOT OF PEOPLE GET STOPPED AT THE AIRPORT AND FORGOT, OH, I HAVE MY WEAPON IN MY MY CARRY ON BAG OR I HAVE MY WEAPON ON ME.

BECAUSE IT BECOMES A PART OF YOU.

LIKE IT WAS A PART OF ME FOR 28 YEARS.

SO I JUST THINK WE'RE GOING DOWN THE WRONG ROAD.

I THINK WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR LIABILITY IN OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SOMEONE OUT THERE, WE NEED TO DE-ESCALATE AND CALL THE POLICE.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TRAIN OUR EMPLOYEES HOW TO DE-ESCALATE SITUATION SO NO ONE LOSES THEIR LIFE OR NO ONE WIND UP IN PRISON.

UM. IT'S LIKE TODAY IN THE NEWS.

THE ACTOR ALEX BALDWIN HAS BEEN CHARGED FOR MANSLAUGHTER.

WAS AN ACCIDENT.

AND EVEN THOUGH THE GUN WAS REAL THAT I WAS A PROP THESE THINGS.

MY POINT IS, ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

AND PEOPLE GET KILLED FROM ACCIDENT WITH A FIREARM.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

JUST PRETTY MUCH COVER EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT.

UM. COUNCILMAN FOSTER STARTED HIS DELIBERATION BY CALLING IT.

CRAZY. I'LL CALL IT BAD POLICY.

ALL THE THINGS THAT THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

GENTLEMEN. WE HAVE A MILLION.

PEOPLE'S SAFETY.

WE HAVE SO MANY ITEM OF IMPORTANCE NOT SAYING THIS IS NOT, BUT AT THIS TIME.

IT JUST. I'M BAFFLED.

WHY? WHY THIS NOW? THIS TIME? I DON'T.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ITS STAFF.

I CAN TELL YOU EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBER.

THESE PROFESSIONALS TO MY RIGHT.

I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THEM.

BUT I CAN READ BETWEEN THE LINES.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

WE ARE PUTTING THEM IN A VERY BAD POSITION TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT.

WAS HE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE ASKED TO DO? BUT WE'RE PUTTING HIM IN A VERY BAD POSITION.

READ BETWEEN THE LINES.

LISTEN TO THEIR STATEMENTS.

HOW THEY CAREFULLY WORDING EVERYTHING THEY SAID.

I BAD POLICY.

I WOULD URGE YOU ALL NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE BEING SAID, MORGAN DOES NOT GUARANTEE SAFETY.

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I WOULD HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER KILLED.

SHOT BY A BY A PALM BAY EMPLOYEE.

TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT.

MAN. WE'RE GOING.

THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE US FOR WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.

GUARANTEED I WOULD.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW.

AGAIN, CITY ATTORNEY HAD TO ANSWER THE WAY SHE DID AND SHE PROBABLY ANSWERED ALL I'LL.

A SWORN OFFICERS.

THAT'S THEIR DUTY.

THAT'S HIS VERY THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST POLICIES SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL.

THIS IS IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE.

THINK OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBER BEING SHOT BY A BY ARMED EMPLOYEE.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR REACTION? WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.

THINK OF IT. HANDS OFF.

WELL NOW. BUT.

COME. THIS IS CRAZY.

THANK YOU. SO LET ME JUST.

YOU KNOW, MY. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

I DID SECOND THIS MOTION, AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS.

THE COUNTY HAS HAD THIS IN PLACE, AS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID.

SO I'VE GOT AND I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER JOHN TOBIAS, WHO PROVIDED THIS EMAIL FOR ME, AND IT'S FROM THE HUMAN DIRECTOR, HUMAN RESOURCES.

WHILE WE ARE SEEING INCREASES IN OUR LIABILITY INSURANCE AS MARKET CONDITIONS IN GENERAL CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE. WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.

THE CONCEALED CARRY POLICY HAS BEEN DIRECTLY CITED AS A REASON FOR THOSE INCREASES.

THAT ENDED OF ITSELF CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT MIGHT INCREASE.

RIGHT. AND THEN SINCE THEY'VE HAD IT, THEY'VE HAD HE'S AWARE OF ONLY TWO INSTANCES WHERE THE WEAPON WAS INADVERTENTLY DISPLAYED, TWO INSTANCES, AND THEY HAVE THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES.

IN BOTH INSTANCES, THE CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT HOLDER CORRECTED THE SITU SITUATION IMMEDIATELY.

I AM COMFORTABLE WITH GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.

I LOVE THE SHERIFF'S QUOTE.

THE ONLY THE ONLY WAY TO STOP A BAD GUY WITH A GUN IS HAVING A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN.

MOST CONCEALED CARRY WEAPON PERMIT HOLDERS, THEY ARE TRAINED.

THEY STAY TRAINED.

I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

IT IS SOMETHING INDIVIDUAL, BUT THERE'S A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY ON THOSE THAT THAT DO HAVE THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT, AS COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALLUDED TO, HE'S BEEN TRAINED IN TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND HE IS A CONCEALED CARRY WEAPON. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

MARY, IF I MAY, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION, SIR.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. ALL ALL THE POLLS SIGNIFY BY SINGING.

NAY, NAY, NAY, NAY.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

NO. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

MAYOR MEDINA I.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

HEY. MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

RESOLUTION 2023, DASH ZERO FIVE, A RESOLUTION THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIVERA COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE TRANSFER OF A PORTION OF BABCOCK STREET FROM RIVERA COUNTY TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, PROVIDING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FROM MALABAR ROAD TO WACO BOULEVARD EXCEPT THE I 95 RIGHT OF WAY PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. BUTTON.

OR MR. SHERMAN HAS TO PRESENT THE ITEM FIRST.

NO. JUST REAL QUICK.

YEAH. SO THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP ITEM.

YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TRANSFER OF THE SEGMENT OF BABCOCK PER HOUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY FOR THE PORTION BETWEEN MALABAR AND MALABAR ROAD AND WACO BOULEVARD.

THIS IS THE LAST STEP, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE OFFICIAL RESOLUTION AND BREVARD COUNTY APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AT THEIR DECEMBER 20TH MEETING.

AND SO THIS WILL BE THE FINAL STEP AND WE WILL CONCLUDE THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

MR. BARTON. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THIS JUST CARRIES DIRECTLY INTO MCMICHAEL ROAD.

WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? WHERE WE TOOK A COUNTY ROAD, ONE OF THE BUSIEST COUNTY ROADS IN BREVARD COUNTY, AND WE ARE NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR IT BECAUSE WE LET SOME DEVELOPMENTS AND

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SO IT TURNED. THE COUNTY WAS SMART.

THEY TOOK THAT MONKEY OFF OF THEIR BACK AND THEY PLACED IT ON US.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN WITH MICO ROAD.

AND THIS WAS THE ACTIONS.

IT'S GOING TO LEAD US RIGHT DOWN THAT EXACT SAME THING.

REMEMBER ST JOHN'S HERITAGE, ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY GOING TO THE EAST.

TIES DIRECTLY INTO MICO ROAD AND THAT'S WHAT THEY PART OF THEIR DISCUSSION WAS.

OH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS OVER HERE GOING TO US.

THE EXACT SAME THING CAN HAPPEN ON THE EAST SIDE OF 95 THAT HAS HAPPENED ON THE WEST SIDE OF 95 ON THE.

ONTO A TWO LANE ROAD THAT IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT TURN INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S RESPONSIBILITY IS COSTING US TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THE BENEFIT WE GET.

THANK YOU YOU.

AND THE OTHER SPEAKER CALLED ME, SIR.

AND NEED A. SO.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I'LL BE BRIEF, MAYOR, BECAUSE WE WE SPOKEN ON THE HISTORY OF THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

AND WE WERE REALLY WE WERE REALLY HANDCUFFED IN REGARDS TO THIS AGREEMENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS RELAYED BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED.

AND THAT ITEM, WE HAVE BOTH HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL AND IT'S CD.

SO I'VE I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT TO LIGHT BOTH.

BUT I BUT KNOWING BETTER I FEEL WOULD BE DOING BETTER IN REGARDS TO THAT ITEM THAT WE JUST ANNEXED IN.

SO I APPRECIATE IT, MR. BATTEN. THE PREMIER.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

SHERMAN. THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS IS THE UPDATING TO THE EXISTING SUB RECIPIENT CONTRACT WITH COMMUNITY OF HOPE FOR THE ADDITIONAL AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, OR ARPA FUNDING THAT COUNCIL AWARDED TO THEM AT THE DECEMBER 15TH MEETING.

SO THIS IS JUST UPDATING THE AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR AND SPEAKER CARDS, MR. BARTON. SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTH WEST.

THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WHERE THIS COMMUNITY OF HOPE IS GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY PLACED.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY PAYING 6.3 THOUSAND I MEAN $6.3 THOUSAND ANNUAL TAXES TO THE CITY.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY PAYING 1000 FOR THE ROAD BOND TO THE CITY.

RIGHT. NOW THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE WHEN COMMUNITY OF HOPE TAKES US OVER AS A TAX EXEMPT, THAT MEANS THAT'S FUNDING WE ARE GOING TO LOSE COMING INTO THE CITY, ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE USING ARPA FUNDINGS TO TO PROMOTE THIS.

WE'RE ALSO LOSING THE REVENUE THAT WAS BEING GENERATED THAT PAYS FOR POLICE, FIRE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO NEED, REQUIRING TO HAVE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PAYING INTO THE DUES FOR THAT BECAUSE OF BEING TAX EXEMPT.

RIGHT. SO THAT LEADS TO THE OTHER QUESTION OF 1.2 MILLION.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM FIVE, 518,000 MORE, WHICH BRINGS A TOTAL FOR THEIR PURCHASE PRICE DOWN TO $1.7 MILLION.

RIGHT. AND OFTEN WITH THAT, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FEE REDUCTIONS FOR THAT COMES FOR OUR FOR OUR BUILDING FEES THAT THEY'RE GOING WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THAT REVENUE FROM.

IF NOT AND THAT'S GOOD.

ARE THEY ELIGIBLE OR NOT? THEY WON'T BE ELIGIBLE TO GET ONE POINT FOR THAT ONE.

YOU SAVE ME SOME MONEY.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, THE NEXT QUESTION IN THIS ONE IS KIND OF CONTENTIOUS AND IT'S A SORE SUBJECT FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT IF I DON'T BRING IT UP, I FEEL I'M BEING DELINQUENT.

THIS IS FOR THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO GO INTO CURRENTLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

WE'RE HAVING LOTS OF ILLEGALS BEING BROUGHT IN AND THESE ORGAN CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS ARE PUTTING THEM UP.

WE DON'T HAVE THE TRACK OF THEM.

SO MY QUESTION, IS THIS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING GOING TO BE USED FOR THE HOUSING OF THE ILLEGALS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA?

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SO I HAVE TO ASK MY GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT TRACKING.

AND THAT'S WHAT MY REQUEST IS.

I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS CASE IS.

I HOPE THE TRANSITIONAL HELP THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO APPLY FOR IS FOR HELPING LOCALS IN THIS AREA AND NOT HELPING THE ILLEGALS COMING IN, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT WHAT IS HAPPENING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THOSE? YES, SIR. I MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE NANCY, BUT OUR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COME UP AND SHE MAY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I'LL I'LL TRY TO START WITH THE ANSWERS. PLEASE COME UP.

PLEASE. PLEASE. I PROBABLY WILL NEED YOU.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.

MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THE HOPE QUESTION IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO STRUCTURE THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IN TERMS OF THE TAXABLE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.

IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, I KNOW THESE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE INTENTION WAS FOR THIS TO BE FOR FOLKS IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.

BUT PLEASE SPEAK TO WHATEVER YOU KNOW ON THAT AS WELL, MA'AM.

AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS THAT WE WE ASKED FOR PROJECTS REGARDING THE ARPA FUNDING AND THIS COMMUNITY OF HOPE HAD A PLAN AND AN EXCELLENT PLAN BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WE ARE UP AGAINST THE WALL WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO COMMUNITY OF HOPE.

I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS ONE OF THE PROPONENTS THAT WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE INITIAL PROJECT.

AND NOW I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE AT LEAST SUPPLEMENTING THAT DECISION FROM WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY DID.

BUT CARRY ON, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, THAT WE ASKED FOR THESE PROJECTS AND THEY RESPONDED CORRECT.

AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THE 14 UNITS ARE CURRENTLY MARKET RATE, AND SO THEY PROPOSE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE LOW INCOME AND INCOME ELIGIBLE SO THEY WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT BRINGING IN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE COMMUNITY OF HOPE IS AN ESTABLISHED NONPROFIT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SO THEY PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE A LONG WAITING LIST OF CLIENTS.

THEY HAVE A LARGE PORTFOLIO OF OTHER AFFORDABLE RENTAL PROJECTS AND ARE CONTINUALLY LOOKING FOR MORE.

SO THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT VETTING THE ONES THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THERE.

THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE INCOME QUALIFICATION ON THEM AND THEN ANY NEW ONES AS WELL.

SO THEY ARE A NONPROFIT.

SO IT WOULD TAKE SOME TAX REVENUE OFF OF THE CITY, BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH HONESTLY WE NEED HERE IN PALM BAY, IF ANYBODY LOOKS AT TRYING TO RENT A HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT, THOSE PRICES HAVE ESCALATED.

AND SO PEOPLE ARE DOUBLING, DOUBLING UP, TRIPLING UP.

SOME PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS.

THEY BECOME HOMELESS.

IT'S DEFINITELY A HOUSING CRISIS.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HONESTLY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN PALM BAY BECAUSE THERE JUST ISN'T A LOT OF HOUSING AVAILABLE.

SO. COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND YES, YES, IT DOES TAKE AWAY.

THIS IS TRANSITIONAL, SO A.K.A., TEMPORARY.

SO IT TAKES AWAY TEMPORARILY, BUT COMMUNITY OF HOPE.

AND THEY'VE SHOWN IT. THEY HAD PEOPLE COME UP AND SPEAK ON.

NOW I HAVE A HOME. HOME IN PALM BAY.

SO, YES, IT TOOK AWAY TEMPORARILY, BUT IT GAVE A PERMANENT SOLUTION.

SO I KNOW IN THE SHORT TERM IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, OH, WE'RE YOU KNOW, BUT IN THE LONG TERM AND WHAT WE'RE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR SOME OF THESE FAMILIES, I THINK IS A WIN.

I THINK IT'S A BIG WIN.

ONE OF THE THINGS COMMUNITY OF HOPE IS WHAT WE CALL A COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS ALLOWS THEM TO ACCESS THE HOME FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY HAS AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO THE NONPROFITS TEND TO LOW.

IT'S A TRANSITIONAL FOR TWO YEARS.

THEY PREPARE THEM FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.

THEY WORK WITH LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND OTHER HOUSING PROVIDERS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WITH THAT DISPERSEMENT AGREEMENT, WORKING WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVES, THEY'RE WORKING WITH MACEDONIA AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON MOVING PEOPLE FROM RENTAL INTO HOME OWNERSHIP.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS THEIR GOAL WITH THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, IS TO BE ABLE IF THEY'RE READY TO MOVE THEM, THEY CAN THEY CAN SAVE UP SOME MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN HOPEFULLY MOVE INTO HOMEOWNERSHIP EVENTUALLY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU SAID THE APARTMENTS ARE MARKET RATE OR BELOW MARKET RATE.

WE WERE TOLD THEY WERE MARKET RATE CURRENTLY.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO MEET A CERTAIN INCOME ABOVE THE POVERTY LINE TO GET INTO THIS APARTMENT.

CURRENTLY, YES, THEY THEY WOULD JUST TAKE IN ANYONE THAT COULD AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

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BUT ONCE COMMUNITY OF HOPE PURCHASES THE PROPERTIES, THEY WILL BECOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THE RATES WILL THE RENTAL RATES WILL GO DOWN TO.

TYPICALLY, THEY USE WHAT WE CALL OUR HOME RATE RENTAL RATES.

SO IT WON'T BE MARKET RATE.

IT WILL GO DOWN ONCE THEY PURCHASED THE CORRECT PROPERTY.

THERE'S 14 UNITS.

I HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT ABOUT THEM.

I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

I'M JUST SHOCKED THAT.

THE EXISTING BUILDING NEEDS $1.7 MILLION.

TO GET READY TO MOVE SOMEBODY IN WHEN THERE WAS PEOPLE LIVING IN APARTMENTS.

WHEN I WAS THERE. WHEN I WENT BY THERE.

IT'S RIGHT OFF PALM BAY ROAD.

JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM MY OFFICE.

AND. YOU KNOW, I SAW.

RESIDENTS. IT WAS SOME VACANT APARTMENTS, BUT MOSTLY IT WAS FULL.

AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW.

IT'S A BMW PARKED OUTSIDE THE APARTMENT.

THAT'S WHY I HAVE AN ISSUE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE DRIVING A BMW AND IT'S FAIRLY NEW.

THEY'RE GETTING SOME RENT OUT OF THAT, THAT PERSON.

OKAY. SO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW.

THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE ALL THEM PEOPLE OUT AND BRING PEOPLE IN.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT CLEAR.

MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THAT.

WE MET WITH DREW WARREN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY OF HOPE.

SO AT THE TIME THEY APPLIED, THERE WAS THREE UNITS THAT WERE VACANT.

AND THEN SINCE THEN, HE'S PRESCREENED ALL OF THE EXISTING TENANTS.

SO ALL OF THEM, BUT ONE WERE OVER INCOME.

SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT THEIR LEASE WAS ENDING ANYWAY.

SO THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE UNIFORM RELOCATION ACT WOULD KICK IN IF THEY WERE TO HAVE TO MOVE SOMEONE OUT OF THE UNIT.

SO HE ALREADY PRESCREENED THEM FOR THAT PURPOSES.

SO SO HE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BRING IN FOUR NEW LOW INCOME FAMILIES TO TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE EMPTY UNITS.

AND THEN AS THE OTHER TENANTS MOVE OUT, THEN HE WOULD MOVE IN NEW ONES.

SO HE IS REQUIRED TO DO ANNUAL RECERTIFICATION OF INCOME.

SO THE TENANTS THAT THE LEASE IS GOING TO EXPIRE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO RENEW THEM.

CORRECT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

HE COULD SAY. CORRECT.

BE GONE. CORRECT.

SO THE ONE PERSON THAT WAS OVER, MAYBE THAT WAS THE BMW PERSON, I DON'T KNOW.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE OTHER PART WAS THAT THE.

IT'S THE ACQUISITION AND THE REHAB.

SO HE IS TRYING TO FIX UP THE UNITS.

SO THERE ARE SOME HOUSING QUALITY STANDARDS THAT NEED TO BE APPLIED.

AND SO HE'S LOOKED AT THEM.

HE IS ACTUALLY TAKING OUT A MORTGAGE.

HIS ORIGINAL BEFORE THIS WAS CLOSE TO 800,000 HE WAS GOING TO FINANCE IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE SALE AND THE REHAB OF THE 14 UNITS. OKAY. SO HE DOES HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR.

THANK YOU. LET ME JUST GO DOWN THE AISLE.

OKAY. CARRY ON.

THANK YOU, NANCY, FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

YOU. I MEAN, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROCESS, SO YOU MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HOW THEY GO ABOUT IN TERMS OF ACQUIRING TENET AND SO ON. SO FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY.

THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL GOT TO BE DOCUMENTED, RIGHT? MM HMM. HARPER SOCIAL SECURITY.

SO SO THE IDEA OF OF ILLEGAL NUMBER ONE IS THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

UNDOCUMENTED HUMAN BEING BEING AN ILLEGAL ALIEN.

THAT TERM THAT TERM IS A CODE WORD FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

THERE'S A PROCESS, FOLKS, THAT ARE GETTING IN THERE TO BE ABLE TO BE QUALIFIED.

YOU CERTAINLY HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED, RIGHT.

SO SO THAT PUT ASIDE THAT WHOLE IDEA OF.

EAGLE. I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE ARPA REGULATIONS, BUT I KIND OF REMEMBER THAT THERE THAT THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW ILLEGALS INTO THOSE.

IT'S UNDER UNDOCUMENTED.

YES. SO BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT.

I NEED EMOTION. SO I'M ALL.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

THERE WERE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM, WAS THERE? OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU SAID.

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ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMAN.

COUNCILMAN FOLSOM.

YEAH, I YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE I VOTED AGAINST HIM LAST TIME.

THAT'S WHY I HAD THESE QUESTIONS.

I'M ALL FOR HELPING PEOPLE, HOMELESS PEOPLE OR PEOPLE THAT NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I'M 100% BEHIND THAT.

BUT I DID GO ON THE SITE BEFORE WE AWARDED THEM THE FIRST BATCH OF MONEY.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO THEM.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE PAYING FOR THE APARTMENT OURSELVES.

AND THEY MANAGED IT.

SAID THEY GOT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN, THAT WE JUST NOT GIVING THIS MONEY AWAY, NOT GIVING $518,601 AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN IN THIS GAME.

AND AS MR. BILL BATTEN SAID, WE'RE NOT GETTING NO TAX REVENUE.

BUT. HOPEFULLY WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, GIVE HIM A HAND UP AND HAND OUT.

AND GETTING THEM ABLE TO OWN A HOME IN PALM BAY WHERE WE CAN GET SOME TAX REVENUE VERSUS THEM WRITTEN MY APARTMENT.

SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

BUT NOT WITH A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO ROUND IT OUT SINCE I SECONDED THE MOTION.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, IF YOU REMEMBER THEIR PRESENTATION RIGHT, IT WAS TRANSITIONING FOLKS FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO HOMEOWNERSHIP.

AND WITH THAT, THERE WAS SOME COUNSELING THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE MAKEUP OF HOPE.

AND. AND THE OTHER CAVEAT WAS IT WAS THE TERM READY FOR THEM.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE KNEW THAT IF THEY RECEIVED THIS ARPA FUNDING, THAT THEY WOULD THEY WOULD SPEND THAT THAT FUNDING BEFORE THE DEADLINE OF 2026, I THINK IS IS OUR DEADLINE.

IF I'M IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS WITH ME WAS THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO EXHAUST THE FUNDS AND WHICH WOULD IN TURN MEAN WE'D HAVE TO RETURN IT AND THE AND THE CITY WOULDN'T BENEFIT.

THIS IS A WORTHWHILE PROJECT TO.

HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HAVE SOME FAMILIES RIGHT NOW, AS NANCY SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.

I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.

THE MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE NAY PASSES 4 TO 1. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

YES, MAYOR. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION.

COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY DENIED THIS REQUEST, WHICH IN LARGE PART INVOLVED A FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY, AND THIS CASE BE STANDARD AS FAR AS RECONSIDERATIONS WE'VE HAD.

COUPLE MORE REQUESTS RECENTLY, BUT I WILL READ FROM OUR.

FROM OUR CODE IS SECTION 51.5 DENIAL OF A REQUEST BY COUNCIL OR BOARD, BECAUSE TYPICALLY, ONCE COUNSEL HAS DENIED A REQUEST, THE SAME OR SIMILAR ISSUE CAN'T COME BACK WITHIN A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS.

AN EXCEPTION IS IN SUBSECTION B.

HOWEVER, THE CITY COUNCIL OR ANY BOARD MAY RECONSIDER THE SAME OR SIMILAR ISSUE WITHIN THE 12 MONTH PERIOD.

IF A MISTAKE, INADVERTENT SURPRISE OR EXCUSABLE NEGLECT HAS OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY, PROVIDED THAT THE EVENT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FORMED A BASIS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL OR ANY BOARD'S DECISION TO DENY THE REQUEST AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.

A NUMBER OF REASONS ON WHICH THEY BELIEVE THEY FIT UNDER THE CRITERIA.

ACTUALLY, THEY ARE FOR THE SURPRISE MISTAKE INADVERTENCE, AND IT'S IN ITS EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE ESSENTIALLY SURPRISED THEY DO CITE THAT A PRIMARY PARTNER WITH.

WITH THEIR TEAM HAD A DEATH IN HIS FAMILY PRIOR TO THE HEARING OCTOBER 4TH, AND SO HE WAS UNABLE TO BE AT THE MEETING ON OCTOBER SIX. AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT THAT SURPRISED HIM.

MISTAKE. THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY HAD RETAINED AN ECONOMIST WHO HAD COMPLETED A VERY THOROUGH ECONOMIC AND MARKET ANALYSIS OF THE MARKETABILITY AND FEASIBILITY OF

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THE ECONOMIST WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING.

THEY SAID THEY PROVIDE A REPORT AND UNBEKNOWNST TO THEM, THEY SAID THE REPORTS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE.

INADVERTENCE THEY CITE BECAUSE THE ECONOMIC REPORTS HADN'T BEEN INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA, THEY WERE UNAWARE OF THIS, SO THEY PROVIDED A SUMMARY BUT NOT FULLY PRESENT THE FINDINGS.

THE COUNCIL AND THE LAST GROUND THAT THEY CITE AS FAR AS EXCUSABLE NEGLECT, IF THEY SAID THAT COUNSEL RAISED CERTAIN CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADEQUACY.

POLICE, FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES IN THE AREA, THEY ALERT THAT THESE CONCERNS WERE RAISED AFTER THE HEARING WAS CLOSED AND THE APPLICANT WAS UNABLE TO REBUT.

AND A FURTHER PROVIDE THAT IF THEY WERE ALLOWED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO REBUT THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE INDICATED THAT THE APPLICANT HAD THAT THERE HAD BEEN AN OFFER FOR A 3.2 ACRE SITE TO BE USED AS A FIRE STATION IN EXCHANGE FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS, BUT THAT THE CITY HAD DECIDED TO PURSUE A DIFFERENT SITE THAT IS PART OF EMERALD LACE, AND THAT THE NET FISCAL IMPACT AND IMPACT FEES GENERATED BY THE PROJECT COULD HELP.

BUILDING A POLICE AND FIRE STATION WHEN COUNCIL EVALUATES THESE GROUNDS, I HAVE LISTED IN THE MEMO CERTAIN THINGS THAT COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER.

WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER THERE WAS A PRIZE.

COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER WHETHER THE APPLICANT WAIVED THIS ARGUMENT BY FAILING TO REQUEST THE CITY COUNSEL CONTINUE THE HEARING.

THE APPLICANT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS AND NOT TO JUST SIT UPON THEM AND CERTAINLY HAVE COUNSEL MAKE A DECISION, AND THEN AFTER THE FACT, TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD HAVE MITIGATED IN ADVANCE.

SO YOU CERTAINLY WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER WHETHER THIS ARGUMENT WAS WAIVED.

DID THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK COUNSEL TO CONTINUE THE HEARING? DID IT ANY TIME DURING THE HEARING, DID THEY REALIZE THAT THEY WERE PREJUDICED BY NOT HAVING THIS PERSON BUT FAIL TO REQUEST AT THAT TIME THAT COUNSEL CONTINUE THE HEARING AND INFORM THE BASIS OF THEIR REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE? MISTAKE. ONCE AGAIN, THEY WAIVED THE ARGUMENT BY FAILING TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE BASED UPON THE LACK OF A KEY MEMBER. INADVERTENCE AS FAR AS MATERIAL NOT BEING PROVIDED IN THE PUBLISHED AGENDA PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO MAY WANT TO CONSIDER WHEN DID THE APPLICANT FIRST DISCOVER THAT THE REPORTS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA? DID ONLY HAVING A SUMMARY OF THE FINDINGS OF THE ECONOMISTS AND NOT HAVING THE ENTIRE REPORT THAT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FORMED THE BASIS OF YOUR DECISION TO DENY.

AND AS FAR AS THE LAST ITEM, WHICH IS EXCUSABLE NEGLECT, I DID REVIEW THE ACTUAL HEARING AND I PROVIDED A SUMMARY BELOW. MY REVIEW OF THE HEARING ACTUALLY DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT.

THE. THE QUESTION ABOUT THE POLICE AND FIRE STATION OCCURRED AFTER THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.

ACTUALLY, THAT WAS A QUESTION.

I BELIEVE IT WAS. COUNCILMAN FOSTER ASKED DURING THE ACTUAL HEARING.

HE ASKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND SPECIFICALLY A POLICE AND FIRE STATION.

AND FROM THE REVIEW, MR. WISE ACTUALLY RESPONDED BECAUSE, AS HE HAD STATED EARLIER, MR. WISE HAS WORKED ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THE AREA AND CERTAINLY WAS THERE BEEN JEFFERIES.

AND HE ACTUALLY STATED THAT MR. JEFFRIES HAD OFFERED UP A SITE THAT THE CITY DECIDED TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND SO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY SAY THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO PROVIDE WAS ACTUALLY PROVIDED DURING THE HEARING, AS WELL AS MR. WISE AND OTHERS, PROVIDED THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME IMPACT.

SO FOR FOR.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION.

BUT THOSE OTHER THREE ITEMS COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER WITH THE REQUEST AND THE APPLICANT IN THEIR ATTORNEY ARE AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? THAT'S MAYOR JACK HERSHMAN.

ALL ABOUT, JEREMY.

OR IF IT'S.

AND MR. BILBO.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN, YOU DEAL WITH SOME REALLY HEAVY STUFF HERE IN THE EVENING, AND.

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BUT IF HE IS THE HEAD THAT WEARS THE CROWN, YOU GUYS REALLY HAVE TO MAKE SOME HEAVY DECISIONS.

MY NAME IS JACK KIRSCHENBAUM.

I ADDRESS THE 1795 WEST NASSAU BOULEVARD.

I'M A LAWYER WITH GRAY ROBINSON.

TONIGHT, I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT WATERSTONE HOLDINGS AND TAMAYA LLC.

WATERSTONE WAS THE APPLICANT.

AND AMAYA IS THE CONTRACT.

VENDEE THEY ARE TO BUY.

THEY PLAN TO BUY ALL OF THE WATERSTONE INTEREST AND DEVELOP IT.

AND THAT IS WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT YOU SAW PRESENTED BY MR. WEISS AND MR. MCKNIGHT AT THE LAST MEETING.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PARTIES.

WE LIVE IN AN IMPERFECT WORLD.

WE ARE IMPERFECT.

WE MAKE MISTAKES.

WE'RE SURPRISED ON OCCASION.

SOMETIMES WE ARE NEGLECTFUL, GROSSLY NEGLECTFUL, OR INEXCUSABLY AND INADVERTENT THINGS OCCUR.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE ARE RULES AND PROCEDURES, PARTICULARLY IN COURT.

THAT ALLOW FOR BOARDS AND BODIES AND JUDGES TO MAKE RE HEARINGS.

MAKE THINGS BETTER.

MORE PERFECT. LESS THAN PERFECT.

ON OCTOBER SIX.

WATERSTONE CAME BEFORE YOU.

WITH AN APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

YOU MIGHT RECALL YOU HEARD FROM JAKE WEISS, THEN YOU HEARD FROM JIM MCKNIGHT, AND THEY GAVE CERTAIN PRESENTATIONS IN CERTAIN VIDEO PRESENTATIONS. THE COUNCIL THEN VOTED 3 TO 2 TO DECLINE THE APPLICATION FOR A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.

WHICH MADE THE REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL MOOT.

NOW, THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS MOVED.

IT CAME BEFORE YOU WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.

WE HAVE FILED THIS REQUEST, THIS MOTION FOR REHEARING FOR CONSIDERATION UNDER YOUR RULES.

NOW IT'S INTERESTING AND YOU MAY NOT GET MANY OF THESE BEFORE YOU.

YOU PROBABLY DON'T GET MANY AT ALL.

BUT THIS RULE THAT YOU HAVE.

MAY I CONTINUE FOR A FEW MINUTES? THAT'S IT. I THINK THAT'S IT.

NEXT SPEAKER.

MY NAME IS JEREMY GORE.

IT'S 5200 VINELAND ROAD, ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

32811. I'M A PARTNER AT KAMIYA.

I'M THE PRINCIPAL PARTNER RUNNING THIS PROJECT IN.

I DO PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, SOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

BUT MY EXPERIENCE INCLUDES PROJECTS LIKE PUBLIX AND SPROUTS AND STARBUCKS AND COFFEE SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS.

I'M A COMMERCIAL GUY.

I UNDERSTAND THE CITY WANTS COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S QUITE LITERALLY HOW I PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE.

I'M A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER.

I'M THE PERSON WHO PUT THIS PROJECT TOGETHER AND I'M LEADING THE PROJECT ON ALL FRONTS.

WHILE MY PRIMARY ROLE IS DEVELOPER.

I'M LUCKY THAT I GET TO WEAR A LOT OF DIFFERENT HATS.

IN ONE OF THOSE HATS IS MARKETING THE GUY ON THE FRONT LINE CALLING TENANTS.

GOING TO CONFERENCES, SENDING EMAILS, KNOCKING ON DOORS.

I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO GENERATE INTEREST AND ULTIMATELY SECURE TENANTS FOR OUR PROJECT AND FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AS WE LOOK BACK TO OUR OCTOBER SIX COUNCIL HEARING, THE REALITY IS I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT OUR TEAM WAS FIELDING. WAS FIELDING.

I HAD A SUDDEN DEATH IN MY FAMILY.

IT WAS UNEXPECTED.

IT WAS A SURPRISE.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, IT WAS NOT FUN.

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I WAS IN NEW YORK.

THE SAME DAY THE FUNERAL IN NEW YORK WAS THE SAME DAY AS THE COUNCIL HEARING.

NOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST TABLE THE MEETING? WELL. I WE WEREN'T FOCUSED ON BUSINESS, RIGHT? I WAS GRIEVING AND I WAS DEALING WITH FAMILY.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOP WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

WE DIDN'T RECEIVE EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS OR OPPOSITION LEADING UP TO THE HEARING.

WE HAD FULL STAFF SUPPORT.

WE HAD UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FROM PLANNING AND ZONING.

ALL INDICATIONS WERE THAT THIS PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE VERY WELL RECEIVED.

I RECOGNIZE RE HEARINGS AREN'T COMMON.

BUT THERE'S A REASON THERE'S A MECHANISM IN THE CITY CODE THAT ALLOWS FOR THEM.

AND IF A DEATH IN THE FAMILY TWO DAYS BEFORE A COUNCIL HEARING DOESN'T CONSTITUTE SURPRISE, THEN I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT DOES.

I HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BEING ASKED BY COUNSEL.

MY INABILITY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS UNDOUBTEDLY HAD A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE OUTCOME OF COUNCIL'S VOTE THAT NIGHT.

IF COUNCIL.

IF THE CITY WANTS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO FOLLOW THEIR CODE AND PROVIDE A REHEARING WHERE THE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED AND WHERE THE PROJECT'S FACTS AND MERITS CAN BE ACCURATELY PRESENTED.

I'M NOT STANDING BEFORE YOU ASKING YOU TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.

I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU.

SPEAK. SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST RECENTLY.

IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS FOR.

LOOKING AT CASES.

SEEMS LIKE IT'S HAPPENING A LOT MORE THAN IT USED TO.

AND I'VE BEEN ATTENDING A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

AND SO WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN? WELL, I DIDN'T GET THE RESPONSE I WAS EXPECTING.

SO LET'S LET'S JUST REQUEST ANOTHER MEETING.

WE SAID THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAD TO GO BACK AND REWRITE OUR ORDINANCES.

AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS IF YOU DIDN'T GET THE RESPONSE YOU WANTED BECAUSE WE'VE HAD DEVELOPERS COME BACK, WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO PRESENT IT AGAIN WITH JUST A DIFFERENT COLOR INK ON MY MAP.

SO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WE'VE SEEN WHERE IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT, BUT IT'S WE KEPT SAYING, ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

NOW, IF YOU IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR APPROVAL, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

BUT YOU HAVE TO WAIT ONE YEAR IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING YOUR ABILITY TO REPRESENT.

YOU'RE JUST LOSING YOUR ABILITY TO PRESENT RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THE FACT THAT IT WAS FOR CHANGING OF COMMERCIAL.

BLESS YOU. CHANGING OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

BUT IT WAS ALL IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL.

IT WAS STILL THAT WAS WHAT THEIR REQUEST WAS.

NOW, YOU KNOW THE BATTEN PHILOSOPHY.

MY GLASS IS ALWAYS HALF EMPTY.

IT'S NEVER HALF FULL.

THIS IS A CASE OF WHERE I THINK THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN SO USED TO GETTING THEIR WAY, EVERYTHING'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PRIMARY DEVELOPERS IN THIS AREA THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN, FOR SOME REASON IT GOT SHOT DOWN.

AND SO AS I LOOK AT IT, I LOOK AT THIS ONE AS THEY THOUGHT, OKAY, WELL, IT'S A DONE DEAL.

PLANNING AND ZONING ALREADY ACCEPTED IT.

SO IT'S A DONE DEAL. IT'S FLYING THROUGH.

I APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT IT WAS NOT APPROVED BECAUSE I SPOKE AGAINST IT AT PLANNING AND ZONING.

BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN CITY COUNCIL NOT NECESSARILY DO WHAT THE ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDS.

YOU MADE UP YOUR OWN DECISION BASED ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, OTHER SPEAKERS.

HEY, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVE SECOND.

WHAT IS THE MOTION? WHAT ARE YOU MOVING? ARE YOU MOVING TO APPROVE OR ARE YOU MOVING TO DENY? I'M MOVING TO APPROVE.

ARE YOU? IF YOU MOVE TO APPROVE THE RECONSIDERATION, WE'LL HAVE A NEW HEARING.

IF YOU MOVE TO DENY, THEN IT ENDS WELL.

YOU EITHER HAVE TO WAIT 12 MONTHS OR HAVE TO BRING SOMETHING THAT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT.

THE WHICH. SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE MOVING, I NEED TO KNOW WHICH WAY.

MOVING TO APPROVE.

WE'RE MOVING INTO MOVING TO APPROVE THE REQUEST, RECONSIDER RECONSIDERATION, THE DENIAL OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO I WANT TO APPROVE THEM THE.

TO CONTINUE. I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE.

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OH, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

BUT THEN HE. WERE YOU JUST THINKING THAT I DID, I MEAN.

WELL, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT, I THINK I SHOULD GO FIRST.

IT'S A IT COMES DOWN TO.

REALLY? WHAT THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT FOR.

WATERSTONE HOLDING LLC PRESENTED SURPRISED.

STAKE INADVERTENTLY.

YOU EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

PROJECT. I FORGOT YOUR NAME.

SIR JEREMY WAS A SURPRISE.

HE HAD A DEATH IN HIS FAMILY.

EVERY DEFICIT SURPRISE TO ME, EVEN WHEN YOU KNOW SOMEBODY IS.

AND I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

I WANT TO SAY THAT OUT OF RESPECT.

I'M SORRY FOR THE LOSS.

BUT SO IT WAS A SURPRISE AND HE COULDN'T BE HERE.

IF I HAD A DEATH IN MY FAMILY AND I WAS VERY EMOTIONAL, I WOULDN'T BE SITTING IN ON A DYESS.

SOMEBODY PASS AWAY A COUPLE OF DAYS OR THAT AFFECT ME, I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T BE ON A DIET.

SO I'M TELLING YOU THAT RIGHT NOW WON'T BE ON A DIET BECAUSE I WOULDN'T BE EMOTIONALLY INTO WHAT I NEED MY WORK.

SO AND I HAD A LOT MORE QUESTIONS AND I FELT LIKE MY QUESTIONS DIDN'T GET ANSWERED.

THAT'S WHY I HAD.

ACTS ABOUT THE FIRE AND POLICE WITH JAKE WEISS.

I STILL DON'T THINK MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO.

I THINK THEY MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RECONSIDERATION AND I THINK WE SHOULD GRANT IT.

YOU SECONDED? SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO MUCH INTO THE THE REASONINGS.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY OUR ROLES, THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE.

AND. IN MY OPINION, AS MUCH RESPECT I HAVE FOR STAFF, AND I TRULY RESPECT THEIR OPINION. I THINK THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BASED ON THE MERIT OF WHAT WHAT THE WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE AND THE APPLICANT SHARED WITH US.

AND THE MERIT ON THE PROJECT ITSELF.

I'LL GO BACK TO MY PREVIOUS COMMENT WHEN THIS THING WHEN THIS APPLICATION CAME BEFORE US.

THE PROJECT IN ITSELF.

ON OCTOBER SIX. THAT PROJECT SHOULD HAVE MOVED FORWARD AND.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SOME OF THE NAVAL IN DIDN'T QUITE CLEAR THAT JUST THE WHOLE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

THE BENEFIT OF THAT PROJECT FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF OUR CITY, IT'S A UNIQUE PROJECT.

IN ITS NATURE WHAT HE WOULD BRING FOR THE AREA.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MULTIFAMILY.

MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMERCIAL, SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD? NOT LATER, MONTHS LATER OR A YEAR LATER.

I'D LIKE TO SEE.

CONCURS. THEY GO TOGETHER.

TOO OFTEN WE'VE SEEN MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL PORTION.

IS LATER. WE STILL STRUGGLING TO BRING THEM UP THAT MUCH, I WOULD SAY, SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT PROJECT ON THAT MERIT.

THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS.

CONSIDER. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

I GUESS I'LL START. I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE THRESHOLD OF CHANGE NOW.

THEY CAN COME BACK IN A YEAR.

OR THEY COULD SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE PROJECT AND BRING IT FORTH.

IN MY VIEW AND I SAID THIS, THEN THE COMMERCIAL SHOULD BE FACING ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 ACRES OR SO AND PERHAPS 15 OF IT COULD BE COMMERCIAL.

FRONTING ALONG ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

NOW THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.

THAT WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO COME BACK WITHIN EVEN BEFORE THE YEAR IF THEY WERE TO DO AND I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE, 15 ACRES, BUT IF THEY SAY TEN ACRES COMMERCIAL FRONTING ON ON AND I SAID THIS BEFORE FRONTING ON ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, I, I WOULD LIKE A PROJECT LIKE THAT.

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BUT THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE BECAUSE HE HAD AN OPTION.

HE HAD AN OPTION TO TO TABLE IT.

I THINK THERE'S MERIT IN IN JUST ASSUMING THAT IT WAS GOING TO PASS AND NOW THEY WANT TO BRING THIS SAME PROJECT TO CHANGE.

REMEMBER THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE, FUTURE LAND USE WAS ALREADY COMMERCIAL.

THE CHANGE THAT I WAS I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE AND I DIDN'T.

SO RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD.

THAT'S WHERE I STAND, HOWEVER.

THEY STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT BACK WITH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.

THAT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE COULD BE THE DYNAMICS OF THE COMMERCIAL PIECE.

THAT WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE PROJECT.

AND YES, I'M WILLING TO HEAR THAT.

BUT THE WAY THIS STANDS NOW, I THINK WITH.

WITH RUNNING ON ON THIN ICE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE PROJECT.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

AND I'LL I GUESS, COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO NEXT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M REALLY I THINK IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA.

I VOTED AGAINST THE PROJECT AND I WOULD STILL VOTE AGAINST IT PROBABLY IF IT WAS BEFORE ME TODAY.

BUT I, I MYSELF HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND I FEEL LIKE MR. WEISS WAS PASSING IT TO SOMEONE ELSE AND BACK AND FORTH.

WELL, FIRST LET ME SAY, BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO THE APPLICANT, THIS THIS IS A NEW NEW APPLICANTS THAT AREN'T FROM THIS AREA.

THIS IS THEIR FIRST PROJECT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

BUT WHERE I SAY WHERE I SAY IT DOESN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD IS TO SURPRISE ANY ANY PERSON.

I WOULD SAY THAT HAS A SUDDEN DEATH IN THE FAMILY IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE RIGHT STATE OF MIND.

SO I DO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT POINT.

BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, I'M I'M STILL NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AS IT WAS, SO I'M REALLY ON THE FENCE ABOUT IT.

BUT I'M ALSO EMPATHETIC TO JEREMY BECAUSE I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS ON THE FOURTH AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FLY UP AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO GET UP THERE WITHIN 48 HOURS.

SO SO I WANT TO BE EMPATHETIC TO THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DIDN'T LIKE THE PROJECT AS IT WAS PRESENTED.

SO, MAYOR, I'M HONESTLY ON THE FENCE WITH IT.

I CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PROJECT IF IT'S NOT WARRANTED.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

IF THEY SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE PROJECT, THEY COULD COME BACK NEXT WEEK OR NEXT MEETING OR WHATEVER TIMETABLE THAT IS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO COME BACK, BUT THEY COULD COME BACK WITHIN THE SIX MONTHS IF IF IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGES, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT, THAT PIECE OF COMMERCIAL ON ST JOHN'S, THOSE THOSE WAIT I MIGHT HAVE TO REFER TO STAFF WE.

WITHIN THE PAST YEAR.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS WITH IT WASN'T KIM ROSENKER.

IT WAS WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. WE SHOT DOWN A PROJECT AND WE SHOT DOWN.

CAN YOU HELP ME OUT? YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING AT? WE SHOT DOWN ONE, BUT THEN WITHIN A FEW MONTHS LATER, THEY MADE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.

MR. MOYER? HE ASKED.

IT WAS HIS TEAM.

IT WAS HIS PROJECT.

HE WASN'T HERE WHEN THE ACTUAL APPLICATION WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, SOMEONE ELSE CAME.

COUNCIL DENIED IT.

HE ASKED FOR RECONSIDERATION.

ESSENTIALLY. HE SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED I DON'T RECALL IN WHICH HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT HE WAS THE PERSON MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE PROJECT.

SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER.

HE COULD HAVE GAINED COUNSEL, ALL OF THOSE ANSWERS.

AND WE TOLD COUNSEL, TOLD MR. MOYER, NO, THAT DOES NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL.

SO, MR. WHITE, YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE.

HE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS OF WHY COUNCIL DIDN'T ACTUALLY LIKE THE PROJECT IN THE BEGINNING, MADE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.

AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ISSUES BECAUSE IT WAS TO GO DADDY WAS HAD TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC IN THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THERE WAS ALREADY SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES.

CAME UP WITH A PLAN TO DEAL WITH HIS TRAFFIC AND EVEN WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND IN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL TO CREATE A BETTER FLOW.

SO WHAT CAME OUT, WHICH WHEN IT DID COME BACK WITH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, ADDRESSED A LOT OF CONCERNS OF COUNCIL.

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IT BEARS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO THIS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT COUNSEL STOOD FAST AND DENIED BASED UPON A DIFFERENT PERSON BEING THERE. BECAUSE IN THAT SAME SITUATION, TO THE EXTENT THAT MR. MOYER WAS THE BEST PERSON TO SPEAK.

THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME WAS ESSENTIALLY COUNCIL'S POINT.

COULD HAVE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE HAD THEY ASKED COUNCIL.

CAN YOU TABLE THIS FOR.

TO A DATE CERTAIN SO WE CAN HAVE THIS PERSON HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A PERSON BEST ABLE TO SPEAK AND THEY HAVE A CONFLICT.

SOME COUNSEL MOST CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE GRANTED IT.

BUT IF YOU DECIDE TO ROLL THE DICE AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THERE AND THE PRESENTATION DOESN'T GO WELL, IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU ESSENTIALLY A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE.

AT LEAST THAT WAS COUNSEL'S OPINION FOR MR. MOYERS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. AND THERE'S ALSO THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE AS WELL WHERE APPLICANT WAS LOOKING TO REZONE SOMETHING COMMERCIAL OR TAKE TAKE AWAY A PORTION OF COMMERCIAL. THIS WAS WITHIN THE PAST YEAR AND THEN WE WE SHOT IT DOWN, BUT THEN THEY CAME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT APPLICATION WHERE THEY MET WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.

CITY ATTORNEY SO LIKE I SAID, JERRY, I EMPATHIZE, SIR, BUT I DO HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN COME BACK, BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL JUST KEEP IT SHORT.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S WORTHY OF RECONSIDERATION.

I DIDN'T SEE A SURPRISE MISTAKE, INADVERTENCE OR EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

SO I WON'T BE VOTING FOR THIS.

THANK YOU. AND I HAVE THE LAST WORD, SIR.

YOU MADE THE MOTION? YES, SIR. OH.

YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTING IT, BUT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU CAN READ IT.

IT'S RIGHT ON YOUR SCREEN THERE.

BOMBAY QUOTA ORDINANCE PROVIDE THE CITY OR ANY BOARD MAY RECONSIDER THE SAME OR SIMILAR ISSUES WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

IF A MISTAKE INADVERTENTLY SURPRISED OR EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

THESE GUYS, THE APPLICANTS LAID OUT.

ALL THE WAS APPLES.

AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I REMEMBER THE TWO ITEMS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, AND I VOTED I WAS IN.

I WAS I REMEMBER THE TWO ITEMS AND I WAS FOR IT AND THE COUNCIL VOTED IT DOWN.

WE'VE GOT AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN LIVING UP TO.

IF WE VOTE THIS DOWN, WE MIGHT AS WELL GET RID OF THIS ORDER.

MILES WOULD DISSOLVE IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING USED.

HERE'S THE EXAMPLE AND YOU GAVE TWO EXAMPLES AND WE KEEP DENYING IT.

SO WHY IN THE WORLD WE HAVE SECTION 51.05, SECTION B? IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW OUR ORDINANCE AND.

TO ME IS A MATTER OF OPINION.

WHAT'S A SURPRISE AND WHAT'S NOT? WITH NEGLECT, EXCUSABLE NEGLECT.

MY NAME IS YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED IN THIS IN THAT SECTION.

AND TO ME, I DIDN'T GET MY MY.

MR. WISE DID HIS BEST JOB.

I JUST DIDN'T I WASN'T SATISFIED WITH WHAT HE WAS TELLING ME AT NIGHT, BUT.

BUT THE NUMBER ONE A SURPRISE.

MR.. MR..

FOSTER COUNCILMAN FOSTER WE'RE.

I'M ON A TIME SCHEDULE HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE IN SAME.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO YOU DOING THE SAME.

I'M GOING TO FINISH, SIR.

I'M ON THAT SAME TIME SCHEDULE WITH YOU.

I LIKE TO GET OUT OF HERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER.

REMEMBER, I'M NOT GOING 11:00 TIME LIMIT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR.

CAN I FINISH? I WAS ABOUT TO FINISH.

SO TO ME, THE SURPRISE.

BEAT THAT REQUIREMENT.

THANK YOU. HEY, I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE OR TO GRANT THE.

THE GRANT.

THE RECONSIDERATION MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I RIGHT.

ALL OPPOSE. SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

NAY. I'D LIKE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

BEN JOHNSON. HEY, IT'S BEN FOSTER.

HI. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO DE MER MEDINA.

NAY FELIX I MOTION FAILS.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE OR.

MA'AM, DO WE GO WITH A MOTION TO DENY? MADAM ATTORNEY. AND A MATERNITY.

DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DENY AT THIS POINT? NO, SIR. NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

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THE FLORIDA SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION AND TECHNOLOGY EXPO WILL BE HELD IN COCOA FEBRUARY 1ST AND SECOND.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN ATTENDING, AND ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE INTERESTED MAY ANNOUNCE THEIR ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

I DON'T I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE SCHEDULE, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR COUNCIL TO BE REPRESENTED.

IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON TO OUR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

IT JUST FLOWS DIFFERENTLY.

I'M SORRY, BUT DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX OUTSTANDING JOB BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

SO, YEAH, I WOULD I WOULD SAY I WOULD ATTEND IF I CAN FIT IT IN THE SCHEDULE.

IF I CAN'T, THEN I'LL, I'LL SAVE THE CITY.

THE $75 REGISTRATION FEE.

TAP OR COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON JOHNSON CAN'T MAKE IT.

WHAT'S THE DATE? REMEMBER OUR FIRST AND SECOND.

TWO DAY EVENT, COCOA.

IF COCOA WERE FIRST AND SECOND.

LET ME. GET BACK WITH YOU.

SO I THINK WE'RE. SO FAR, MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER ARE GOING TO CONSIDER IT IF WE COULD FIT IT ON THE SCHEDULE.

COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO OZER I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.

THANK YOU. SO, FILIBERTO AND JOHNSON IS A DEFINITE NAY.

DOES THAT SUFFICE, MA'AM? YES, SIR. SO WE'RE ON NOW.

GOOD. OKAY.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THAT.

OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE ON COUNCIL REPORTS AND I'LL START ON MY END.

[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AGAIN, JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF.

I'M WORKING WITH THE EDC REGARDING OUR TAX ABATEMENT ISSUE THAT WE JUST CAME UP WITH.

I REALLY HAVE TO GIVE KUDOS OUT IN MY ACCOLADES THIS WEEK.

GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THE GOOD THING THAT HAPPENED AND THANK YOU ALL COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS WELL.

ON THAT NOTE, NOTHING FURTHER.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO.

YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE MY POINT ON MY LAST COMMENT, AND YOU CUT ME OFF AND.

I APPRECIATE.

ALLOW ME TO MAKE MY POINT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SPEAK, I DON'T CUT YOU OFF.

I NEVER CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE YOU'RE MIKE.

AND I FEEL LIKE.

THIS IS MY MIC. AND I RESPECT OF TIME.

I LIKE TO GET OUT OF HERE IN A DECENT TIME.

I DON'T LIKE LONG MEETINGS, SO BUT I WANT TO GET MY POINT MADE.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY.

MY COUNCIL REPORT.

ALL MORNING, I'M GOING TO MEET SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER KATIE CAMPBELL.

SHE REACHED OUT TO ME, INVITED ME TO MEET WITH HER AT HARRISON HIGH SCHOOL AT 10 A.M..

SO I'M GOING THERE.

IN SUPPORT OF.

WE BROUGHT IN A MEMBER OF KATIE CAMPBELL AND HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL FOR A TOUR AND A TALK WITH THE PRINCIPAL OF HARRISON HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S MY REPORT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, NOT JUST WEIGH IN.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF LIKE THAT.

I JUST FELT THAT YOU WERE GOING ON IN.

AND I HAVE THE STRESS NOW OF.

OF LOOKING AT THE CLOCK AND MAKING SURE.

SO GRAB ME SOME GRACE WITH THAT, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AND I'M LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, IF WE'RE NOT DONE WITH BUSINESS AT 11:00.

SO THERE'S AN ADDED PRESSURE, BUT YOUR POINT IS DULY NOTED.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

AND AND I'M GOING TO CONSIDER THAT.

IT'S JUST I FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN.

THAT'S ALL. OKAY. I RESPECT THAT TO YOU.

MY APOLOGIES TO YOU.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF IN THAT REGARD.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.

I DIDN'T TALK MUCH THIS MEETING.

THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I TALKED.

IF I DIDN'T MAKE VERY LITTLE COMMENTS TO MOVE THINGS ALONG.

I, SIR. THANK YOU.

MR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, SIR. I JUST HAVE FOUR ITEMS, BUT I'LL BE BRIEF WITH THEM.

THE FIRST ONE, IT STARTED BACK WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL IN 2018.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OPIOID LAWSUIT AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, RECEIVED RECEIVED ADEQUATE OR GOING TO RECEIVE ADEQUATE AMOUNTS OF FUNDING.

BUT THAT FUNDING CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED TOWARDS CERTAIN THINGS, WHETHER THAT'S PREVENTIVE MEASURES TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF OPIOID OR STARTING PROGRAMS OR WORKING WITH NONPROFITS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW COUNCIL'S GOTTEN THOSE EMAILS AS WELL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO OR.

YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, I JUST THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

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SO NOW THAT WE'VE GOT GOTTEN TO ALMOST THE FINISH LINE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THEY COME IN, WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, LIKE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO DIRECT STAFF FOR COUNSELING OR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

YES. YES. THAT'S ALL.

I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

I'VE TALKED TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY MULTIPLE TIMES ON IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU.

YOU MEANT AS WELL. SO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW? WELL, OR OR OR OR I GUESS IT'S MORE SO FOR STAFF, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU THE CITY ATTORNEY.

BUT I WANTED TO THE BOARD TO BE AWARE AS WELL.

SO. OKAY.

SO MADAM CHAIRMAN, YEAH.

YES. THANK YOU. SO, YEAH, IT'S JUST IT'S A TIME FRAME THING.

SO WE'RE WE'RE GEARING UP TO MAKE A PLAN THAT WE CAN BRING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE RECEIVED OUR FIRST BIT OF FUNDING, I THINK IN THE LATE FALL, MAYBE IT WAS.

AND WE'VE HAD ONE MEETING THAT INVOLVES MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE'LL ALL BE INVOLVED IN CRAFTING THE BEST RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE FUNDING AND GIVING YOU THE BEST OPTIONS.

SO WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING THAT I ASKED THE TEAM TO START WORKING ON SCHEDULING TODAY, IN FACT.

AND THE HOPE IS THAT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AT THE LATEST, WE SHOULD HAVE A GOOD, SOLID PLAN THAT WE CAN BRING YOU AND A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO PROCEED.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND TO THAT POINT, ALSO, IF YOU COULD.

YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION OF THE CAMPGROUND.

THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER HOT TICKET ITEM THAT WE EVEN HAD A GRAND A GROUNDBREAKING FOR.

IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT WHERE WE ARE.

BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, SO.

YES, SIR. WE DO OWE THAT TO YOU.

AND I WAS TALKING TO STAFF ABOUT THAT.

ALSO. WE'RE WE'VE GOT A NEXT STEP UPDATE NEXT WEEK.

AND SO I'M OUT OF THAT.

I ANTICIPATE WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS TO SHARE WITH YOU AS TO WHERE WE'RE REALLY AT IN THE TIME FRAME.

THANK YOU. THE LAST TWO ITEMS ON ONE, I'M SURE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL'S BEEN GETTING THE EMAILS AND CONCERNS I'VE BEEN GETTING AND I'VE TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT IT AS WELL.

DRIVEWAY AND DRAINAGE.

THAT'S OKAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GIVE MORE DIRECTION ON, YOU KNOW, OR MORE SUPPORT, I GUESS, ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THIS ISSUE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING BRING THE DISCUSSION UP FOR THAT AS WELL, AND I'LL GO AHEAD.

YES, SIR. BEFORE MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH THE DRIVEWAY AND DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT THAT WE'RE CERTAINLY.

YES, ACTIVELY UNDERWAY LOOKING FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT PROCESS.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE FRANK LOOKING AT AGAIN FOR ME, AND HE MET WITH THE TEAM THIS WEEK.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SET US BACK WAS WE DID HAVE COUNCIL APPROVAL AND WENT DOWN THE PATH OF HAVING AN OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRM ASSIST US WITH THE REVIEWS.

HOWEVER, UNBEKNOWNST TO ME UNTIL A LITTLE BIT LATER ON, AFTER A COUPLE OF MONTHS, THE WE FOUND OUT THAT THE ENGINEERING FIRM HAD ONLY ASSIGNED ONE ENGINEER AND THAT PERSON HAD GONE OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE, AND SO NO ONE WAS WORKING ON THE PROJECT, WHICH FURTHER GOT US FURTHER BEHIND.

BUT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON SOME NEW SOLUTION IDEAS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS COMING UP WITH SOME OF THE THE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ONES NEXT WEEK, AND THE OTHER ONE IS EARLY FEBRUARY.

SO FRANK AND I WILL BE WORKING ON SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES THERE BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH.

SO TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, I'LL BE JOINING MADAME SHERMAN AND FRANK WATANABE AT THAT MEETING WITH THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION WITH THE DIRECTOR, JOHN THOMAS.

I THINK IT'S ON THE SIXTH.

KIND OF LIKE A LUNCHEON.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THERE IS OK I HEAR FROM THEM TO GET FEEDBACK.

OKAY. AND THEN.

THEN WE'LL GIVE OUR OK THE LAST THING THEY WANTED TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.

AND. AND I PASS THAT ON TO MADAM SHERMAN.

I RESPONDED WITH JUST TO.

TO BRIEF YOU ON THAT.

YES, SIR. SO THEY CAME.

HEY, WE WANT TO.

WE WANT TO MEET WITH YOU REGARDING OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE DRIVEWAY DRAINAGE THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM A LOT OF THE BUILDERS IN THE AREA.

SO I RESPONDED, COPIED SUZANNE, AND I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE COPIED FRANK AT THAT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW.

MAYBE WE COULD MEET OR HOWEVER IT TURNED OUT.

BUT SO THAT'S HOW THAT EVOLVED.

AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS YOU'RE BRINGING IT UP.

GOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MAKE IT. WE'RE MAKING HEADWAY.

YES. FOURTH ITEM IS REGARDING PALM BAY, PAL.

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AND ONE OF THE APPLICANTS WAS MELBOURNE POWELL.

THEY APPLIED FOR 2 TO 2 SOURCES OF FUNDING.

AND YES, THEY'LL BE SERVICING CHILDREN WHILE THEY'RE THE MELVIN POWELL.

THEY'LL BE SERVICING CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED THEM WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU OPERATING? AND, YOU KNOW, DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE OFFICERS ON STAFF? AND WHAT THEY TOLD ME WAS MOST OF THE TIME, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL IT'S PRETTY MUCH VOLUNTEER BASED.

BUT THEY GET AN OFFICER ON STAFF WHEN THEY CAN.

SO THEY'RE NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, PRESSURING OR PUSHING ON LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE THERE.

SO AND I'VE MET WITH STAFF.

I MET WITH YOU, CHIEF, SO I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET THE CHANCE TO HOLLER AT YOU WHEN I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM MELVIN POWELL.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO FOR US TO DO IS AT LEAST LOOK INTO HOW THEY DID THINGS.

I'M IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME REGARDLESS OF HOW WE GET TO STARTING BACK UP THE PALM BAY POWELL.

BUT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THEMSELVES EARLIER THIS THIS EVENING, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TEEN CENTER.

THAT WAS THAT WAS A BIG PORTION OF IT.

AND I WAS PART OF THAT TEAM AND I WAS IN THERE AS WELL.

SO I DON'T EXPECT THAT PALM BAY POWELL TO BE UP WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS OR WHAT.

BUT WE CAN MAKE STEPS TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRING INFORMATION AND LOOKING INTO ESTABLISH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE MELVIN POWELL TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST FIT FOR PALM BAY. SO THAT'S ALL.

YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

MAYOR POSITIVE NOTE I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TO GIVE KUDOS TO STAFF ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

EVERY DEPARTMENT WERE REPRESENTING.

WE HAD OUR VERY FIRST GOVERNMENT AND BY THE CITY, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND OUTSIDE OF THE LOCAL AREA TO WHAT A GREAT EVENT THAT WAS.

I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE.

I'VE EVEN HAVE A COLLEAGUE FROM SOUTH FLORIDA THAT TOOK THE TWO HOUR, TWO AND A HALF HOUR DRIVE FROM THE CITY OF LAUDERHILL.

SHE'S THE VICE MAYOR.

SHE CAME UP HERE.

SHE. SHE WAS ABLE TO TO SEE THE POST ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA AND SHE CAME OUT AND CHECK IT OUT.

SO SHE SPENT THE DAY AND AND NOTHING BUT GREAT.

AND I EVEN HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOME LOCAL BUSINESSES A GREAT OF AN EVENT THAT WAS WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OF IT AND OUR FORMER CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER. HOW GREAT OF A JOB SHE DID.

SO KUDOS TO ALL THE PARTMENT.

EVERYBODY WERE VERY WELL REPRESENTED AND.

PALM BAY PROMPT. PRAISE GOD.

THANK YOU, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENT.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY. I MEAN, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON DID.

YEAH, HE DID COVER IT DID COVER A LOT.

SOME OF MY COMMENT AS WELL.

SOME OF THE CONCERN AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, BUILDERS AND SOME I'VE ALREADY SHARED WITH YOU, MR. SHERMAN. SO LET'S JUST LET'S TRY TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

I HAVE.

I DO HAVE THANK YOU FOR THE DRIVEWAY COMMENT BECAUSE IT ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE COMMENTS HERE.

THE FIRST THING IS I WANT TO GET CONSENSUS, GENTLEMEN, FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO SEE IF WE COULD GET OUR AGENDAS TO BE READY THE DAY BEFORE. SO RIGHT NOW, OUR AGENDAS ARE MADE PUBLIC ON FRIDAY, AND THEN WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT THURSDAY.

I THINK IT WOULD HELP OUR OUR CITY CLERK IF WE HAD IT DO ON THURSDAY, THE DAY BEFORE.

AND SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN SEE IF I COULD GET CONSENSUS TO HAVE THEM MOVE THAT FROM FRIDAY TO THURSDAY.

I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OPINION EITHER WAY, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

SO DUE TO THAT, YES, I'LL GIVE CONSENT.

SO MADAM TERESE, CAN CAN YOU SHARE WITH THIS HELP YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT, WOULD THIS HELP YOU IN BRINGING UP THESE AGENDAS TO HAVE THEM POSTED ON A THURSDAY AS OPPOSED TO FRIDAY.

YES, I THINK THE THE MAIN NOT REALLY AN ISSUE, BUT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP MY DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROCESS THE AGENDA.

WE ARE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF AS WE ARE FINALIZING THE AGENDA ON FRIDAYS.

IT'S SOMETIMES DIFFICULT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF AND WHEN I NEED TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO SO.

MADAM SHERMAN IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST, BUT AND IT HELPS OUR OFFICE AND PROCESSING THE ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND GETTING EVERYTHING OUT IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SO THERE WERE NOT HAVING TO STAY AFTER HOURS.

SO IT'S JUST MUCH IT'LL IT'LL BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR OUR MY DEPARTMENT TO GET EVERYTHING DONE IF IT'S DONE BY THURSDAY.

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SO THIS WOULD BE A DAY EARLIER, RIGHT? THE EARLIER. THE DAY EARLIER, YEAH.

YEAH. SO IT'S A FULL WEEK THAT WILL BE POSTED BEFORE THE MEETING.

THANK YOU, SIR. SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND THEN MY NEXT MOST OF US.

NO, LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU.

YOU TALK ABOUT STAFF AND WHEN THEY'RE PUT IN ADVERSE SITUATIONS AND HOW THEY WORK THROUGH PROBLEMS. MOST OF YOU KNOW YOU ATTENDED THE PINEAPPLE COVE LAMAR AREA MEETING.

I'M AT THE LAST MEETING.

THERE WAS A LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION THAT WAS REVEALED.

AND IN IN THAT FRUSTRATION, MUCH TO MY DISMAY, PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY WASN'T PRESENT. AND IT REALLY SENT A WRONG MESSAGE TO OUR RESIDENTS.

I RECEIVED IT.

I WAS QUITE PERPLEXED THAT THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE MEETING.

KUDOS TO FRANK WATANABE.

KUDOS TO OUR CHIEF OF POLICE.

KUDOS TO SUZANNE SHERMAN.

SO I THEY WANTED TO HEAR FROM THEIR MAYOR.

AND THEIR MAYOR ASSURED THEM THAT I WOULD BRING THIS UP UNDER MY REPORTS.

THEY WANTED TO HEAR.

WHAT CAN BE DONE.

THE ISSUE IS THAT RIGHT NOW, IF PINEAPPLE COVE WERE TO FOLLOW THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

THE THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM.

AND SO IN THAT MEETING THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, WHEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN THERE, THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THAT TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY SUBMITTED WITH THEIR APPLICATION. AND IN THAT THAT REALLY ROSE THE LEVEL OF AND IT HEIGHTENED THAT FRUSTRATION FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

SO I SPOKE ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL AND I FELT COMFORTABLE DOING SO BECAUSE AT THE LAST AT THE PRIOR MEETING, YOU WERE PRESENT, YOU WERE PRESENT AND YOU SENSED THAT LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION.

SO I WAS COMFORTABLE IN SAYING WE YOU HAVE A COUNCIL THAT TRULY CARES ABOUT THIS SITUATION.

YOU HAVE A COUNCIL THAT NOT ONLY CARES, BUT WE WE WANT TO GET SOME ACTION.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING THIS COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY LOOK AT HOW WE CAN GET.

PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY, CLASSICAL ACADEMY TO THE TABLE SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO FOLLOW THAT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND SO.

MADAM SHERMAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MEETING? BECAUSE I KNOW I HIGHLIGHTED A LITTLE BIT, BUT PERHAPS YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN US A BIT MORE.

YES, SIR. SO FROM THE FIRST MEETING TO THE SECOND MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE SCHOOL WAS PRESENT.

AT THE FIRST MEETING, THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HOPE WAS THAT THEY WOULD WORK TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT, BUT NOTHING SIGNIFICANT TO REALLY ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC BACK UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON.

NESBITT AND SO, UM, THE, THE GIST OF, OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE MAYOR EXPLAINED IT ALREADY, BUT AT THE TIME THAT THEY RECEIVED THEIR SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THEY HAD A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO DID AN ANALYSIS AND SAID THAT THE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EMERSON AS WELL WOULD BE ALLEVIATED BY CERTAIN THINGS OPERATIONALLY THAT THEY COULD DO AND AGREED TO DO AS PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN.

ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS THERE WAS THEIR THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS DETERMINATION THAT THEY STAGGERED THE START TIMES FOR THE DIFFERENT GRADE LEVELS AND PICKUP TIMES OR EXIT TIMES THAT THAT WOULD KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOWING THROUGH THEIR PARKING SPACES AND PARKING LOT THAT IS AVAILABLE SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE QUEUING UP ALL AT ONE TIME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THE THE END RESULT IS THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S WITHIN CURRENT ORDINANCE I CAN SPECIFICALLY DO.

YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REVOKE THEIR SEO AS AN EXAMPLE.

THERE'S THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY PATH THAT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR.

SO STARTED TALKING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT IT AND WE'RE JUST REALLY LOOKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL AS TO HOW HOW SIGNIFICANTLY YOU WANT US TO PROCEED ON THIS, BECAUSE IT IT SEEMS TO BE, ALTHOUGH I'M CERTAINLY NOT THE EXPERT ON IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WE'RE MOVING IN A DIRECTION OF APPLYING SOME ADDITIONAL PRESSURE THAT COULD HAVE A LEGAL ASPECT TO IT.

BUT I WOULD DEFER TO PATRICIA FOR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL OR DIRECTION YOU ALL WANT TO GIVE US.

[04:05:04]

HAVE THEY SHARED WHY THEY'RE NOT ABIDING BY THIS? LIKE I SAID, THEY WEREN'T PRESENT.

WELL, FRANK WATANABE'S HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, SO HE CAN PERHAPS.

LIKE. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

FRANK, UP TO THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE EARLY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD, IT WAS A STAGGERING THE TRAFFIC STUDY IDENTIFIED THAT THEY HAVE LIKE 260 AVAILABLE SPACES IF THEY STAGGER THEIR TIME. THEY ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS IN TERMS OF LIKE CARPOOLING, USING THE OTHER SIDE FOR THEIR KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS, WHICH THEY DO.

BUT THE CRITICAL ONE IS A STAGGERING IF THEY STAGGER THE STUDENTS LIKE MOST SCHOOLS DO FOR 30 MINUTES, THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE MOST OF THE TRAFFIC AND NOT HAVE THE QUEUING ON.

NESBITT BUT JUST IN CASE THAT CAME FROM DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH THE PRINCIPAL AND THEIR STAFF WAS THERE ALREADY IN THEIR CURRENT CURRICULUM.

SO IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO CHANGE THAT POLICY AND THAT MECHANISM THAT PROBABLY MORE COST ASSOCIATED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND BRINGING MORE FACULTY.

AND SO THEY THOUGHT IT WAS IT WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH THE FOLLOWING NEW NEW SEASON.

THAT WAS THE JUSTIFICATION.

I'M NOT BEING PRESENT.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN ALLOW THEMSELVES TO SHARE THAT.

CORRECT. AND THE THERE'S NO CONFIDENCE FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

REGARDING THAT. SO MY MY THOUGHT PROCESS IN MY PROMISE TO THE RESIDENT WAS I WANTED TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE MAY HAVE TO GET THEM TO THE TABLE.

AND I AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO ASK LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON TRYING TO IMPROVE THEIR OPERATIONS, BUT IT IS SMALL STEPS COMPARED TO THE STAGGERING.

THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WORKING WITH THE COVENANT SCHOOL ON CHURCH NEXT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED TO USE THEIR SITE AS A PICKUP.

BUT AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING.

IT'S ALL VERBAL. SO AGAIN, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING CONCRETE.

AND THE OTHER OPTION, IF I MAY, IS THE FEEL THAT THEY THEY DON'T WANT TO USE, BUT YET NOBODY'S USING IT.

THEIR ATTENTION WITH THAT THAT THAT FIELD THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS CORRECT.

YEAH THEY'RE ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SHOWED AN ALTERNATIVE TO USE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE WHERE THEY DO USE IT FOR SOME ACTIVITIES.

BUT THEIR REAL CONCERN AGAIN IS THE COST TO CONSTRUCT THAT.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LIKE A CAR LOOP YOU SEE AT THE AIRPORT WHERE IT OPENS UP TO LIKE A FOUR LANE, YOU KNOW, QUEUING AND THEN IT SQUEEZES BACK DOWN TO TWO LANE.

SO THAT WOULD BE LOGISTICALLY CHALLENGING.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF AND YOU HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THAT ENTIRE LOOP.

SO THAT'S A HUGE COST ASSOCIATED.

SO THAT ALONE WON'T HAPPEN TOMORROW.

WELL. THERE.

IT'LL IT'LL BE A HUGE COST.

THE CITY, IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN DUE TO US NOT BEING MORE PROACTIVE.

SO I. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND YES, I CAN MAKE THE SECOND ONE.

I WAS AT THE FIRST ONE AND EVEN THEN, MR. WATANABE, YOU'RE A VERY LIKE CITY'S CITY STAFF DID MOST OF THE TALKING AT THAT MEETING LIKE MOST OF THE PRESENTING, LIKE EVERYTHING.

YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT, SIR, AS WELL AS YOU, MAYOR AND MISS SHERMAN.

SO WHILE I'M I WANT US TO BE CAREFUL ON BEING, YOU KNOW.

ON BEING TOO.

BEING TO PRESSURE TOWARDS ESTABLISHMENT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, THE LONG TERM PICTURE IN THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS, THE RESIDENTS, AND BY ALL MEANS, I SUPPORT THIS, SIR. AND THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T COUNT ALL THE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT FRANK HAS ALREADY INSTITUTED TO INCLUDE EVEN A SIDEWALK, A HEADWAY.

SO FRANK HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN DEALING PIECEMEALING THIS.

HOWEVER, THE FACT STILL REMAINS THAT THE BIGGEST PLAYER IN THIS IS NOT AT THE TABLE.

AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS.

THAT'S I WANTED TO GIVE THE CITIZENS, THE RESIDENTS, THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL.

AND I LET THEM KNOW THAT COUNCIL WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS WITH THE SCHOOL.

AND I SAID, I BRING THIS UP AND HOPEFULLY WE COULD GET A CONSENSUS.

TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY LOOK AT THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT TAKES A LETTER OR WHAT WHAT THE ISSUE IS, BUT THE POINT IS BRINGING THEM TO THE TABLE.

OKAY. I THINK I'VE GOT ONE.

ONE COUNCILMAN CONSENSUS.

THUMBS UP. I GOT TWO.

AND I THINK WE'RE UNANIMOUS IN THAT VENTURE.

SO I COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THEM? RIGHT. HAVE.

CITY MANAGERS SAT DOWN WITH WITH THEIR STAFF? NO, I HAVE NOT HAD LIKE A ONE ON ONE MEETING OUTSIDE OF CONVERSATIONS AT THE LAST PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THEM.

FRANK HAS BEEN THE LEAD DEALING WITH THEM.

[04:10:02]

GET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM.

MAYOR, YOU COULD BE THERE, THE CITY MANAGER BE THERE.

YOU COULD BE THERE TO REPRESENT THE COUNCIL AND TO VOICE OUR CONCERN WITH FRANK AND C BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A FINANCIAL ISSUE.

SO WHEN I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, FRANK.

YES, SIR. AND JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT THESE MEETINGS PD IS ALSO THERE, TOO, AS WELL.

SO I'M.

I'M FOR YOU MARRIED TO DO SOMETHING.

BUT WHEN YOU SEND A LEGAL LETTER FROM AN ATTORNEY, I MEAN THAT KIND OF.

THOSE PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GET IN A BACK AND FORTH WITH THESE PEOPLE.

I'D RATHER BRING THEM DOWN, SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS IT AND SEE AND GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IF THEY DON'T ACT IN.

BY ALL MEANS, HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY WRITE HIM A LETTER.

YOU KNOW, I FELT THAT WAY, TOO.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, IF I MAY.

HOWEVER, WHEN I ASKED IF WE INVITED THEM TO THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS A RESOUNDING YES ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.

IT WASN'T JUST ONE INVITE.

IT WAS, HEY, WE'RE HAVING A MEETING HERE AND REINFORCING.

WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING.

SO IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, SO YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT PART.

HOW MANY HOW MANY TIMES DID WE INVITE THEM TO THIS MEETING? FRANK, CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN ME? WE THEY WERE INFORMED AT THE FIRST MEETING BECAUSE WE TOLD THEM WE'LL HAVE A SECOND MEETING.

I REMINDED THEM WHEN WE STARTED HAVING EMAILS, THEY WERE ALWAYS ON THE EMAIL CHAIN, SO THEY REMINDED AT LEAST TWO OR THREE TIMES IN THE EMAILS.

AND THEN FINALLY I CALLED HER BECAUSE I WAS GETTING NO FEEDBACK.

BUT I WAS ASSUMING BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY SHE WAS OFF.

I CONTACTED HER THE DAY BEFORE AND THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT NO ONE FROM THE SCHOOL WAS ATTENDING.

BUT YOU CONTACT THEM BY EMAIL.

IT'S NOT VERBALLY.

IT GOES BACK AND FORTH.

THERE WERE EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO THAT'S WHY I FELT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IF WE COULD HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY LOOK AT THIS AND MAYBE SEND THE LETTER, HEY, WE NEED TO START WORKING ON THIS. STAGGERING.

AND THAT, THAT'S ALL.

ARE WE GOOD, GENTLEMEN? SO I CAN REPORT BACK TO THE RESIDENTS.

I LIKE FOR FRANK TO REPORT BACK TO THE RESIDENTS THAT I.

YOU KNOW, I KEPT MY WORD, AND I BROUGHT FORTH TO COUNSEL AND COUNSEL SUPPORTS THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY REACH OUT. THANK YOU, FRANK.

MADAM SHERMAN. THAT.

OKAY. OKAY.

AS YOU WERE, MA'AM.

MADAM ATTORNEY, ANY ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT.

AND I'M SURE THE LAMAR RESIDENTS REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS.

AND, MADAM SHERMAN, ANY ADDITIONAL REPORT? NO, SIR. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

NO, SIR. WE'RE BACK ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, MR. BURTON. BATON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

THAT WOULD BE 15 MINUTES ON ANY SINGLE TOPIC, WHICH IS IS PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD POLICY.

SO MAYBE IF YOU'RE LIMITING THE RESIDENTS TO 3 MINUTES, MAYBE LIMIT YOUR SELVES TO 3 MINUTES ALSO, THEN YOU'LL COME UP WELL ORGANIZED, READY TO PRESENT YOUR ARGUMENT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THIS ONE WAS THE TERM ILLEGAL IS EVEN IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT THE PERSON THAT ENTERS THE COUNTRY IS AN ILLEGAL. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE CONFLICT WITH THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MIGHT BE A DEAL.

BUT WHEN A PERSON BREAKS THE LAW, THAT'S ILLEGAL AND THE PERSON BREAKING THE LAW IS THE ILLEGAL.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

THIS ONE'S REALLY GOING TO GET ME IN TROUBLE WITH A WHOLE LOT OF RESIDENTS.

YOU JUST PASSED AN ORDINANCE FOR THE.

UH, GRASS ON A ON AN IMPROVED PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THERE HAS TO BE MODE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE THAT PASSED.

WELL, I DROVE THROUGH BAYSIDE LAKES THE OTHER DAY AS I WAS DRIVING ALONG BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

YOU COME UP TO A STREET CALLED COURT.

IT'S A DEVELOPMENT IN BAYSIDE LAKES THAT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION.

[04:15:03]

THEY PUT THE ROAD IN, BUT NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.

AND THE GRASS IS FOUR FEET TALL IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

SO THAT PERSON SHOULD ALSO BE FALLING UNDER THE SAME, SAME GUIDELINES AS YOU'RE MAKING OTHER RESIDENTS FALL UNDER.

THE OTHER THING WAS, IS WHEN YOU GO DOWN BAYSIDE LAKES, IT'S BEAUTIFUL ROAD WELL MAINTAINED.

THE HIGHWAYS DO A GREAT JOB.

BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE THAT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY, IT'S ALL OVERGROWN.

I MEAN, SIX FOOT HIGH, TEN FOOT HIGH PEPPER TREES AND STUFF LIKE THIS.

SO THEY MADE AN ORDINANCE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS PASSED.

WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE SHOULD BE GOOD FOR THE GANDER.

I'M NOT GOING TO CALL A COMPLAINANT TO CODE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO START IT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU.

THAT REMEMBER WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA SOMETIMES MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE A GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU. YOU.

THIS IS STUDY.

ROBERTSON 1796 WHEN YOU DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

MR. FOSTER. I SAT THERE.

BACK THERE. OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE PROCESS, AS YOU WERE PONTIFICATING WITH REGARD TO YOUR EXPERIENCE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I GET THAT I'VE HAD A LOT OF TRAINING AS WELL.

BEING PART OF A SECURITY ALERT TEAM ON MY SHIP AND KEEPING MY SKILLS UP.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT OPINIONS HERE.

I RESPECT YOUR OPINION, BUT I DISAGREE WITH IT.

THERE ARE 400 MILLION GUNS IN THE US RIGHT NOW, AREN'T YOU? 50 MILLION MAGAZINES.

20 MILLION A YEAR AND NOT GOING AWAY.

98% OF THESE GUNS ARE CIVILIAN HANDS.

THAT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF 120 GUNS PER 100 PEOPLE.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I SEE IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME BACK UP.

A GUN IN SOMEONE'S HAND IS UNTRAINED, IS DANGEROUS, AND INCLUDES POLICE OFFICERS.

NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF EXAMPLES OUT THERE.

I GET SOME MAGAZINES THAT I THINK IT WAS THE THE MALL IN MINNESOTA WHERE SOMEBODY PULLED OUT.

I THINK IT A MACHINE PISTOL AND READY TO USE IT.

SOMEBODY WITH A CONCEALED CARRY DROPPED THEM.

ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE STORIES THAT GO ON.

BY THE WAY, THERE'S THREE PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY, DIRECT FAMILY THAT ARE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THE PROBLEM THAT I DO HAVE IS WHEN YOU HAVE GUN NO GUN GUN SAFE ZONES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT OBEY THAT ARE LAWFUL CONCEALED CARRY OWNERS.

THE BAD GUYS DO NOT OBEY GUN LAWS.

THEY SIMPLY DON'T.

THAT'S REALITY.

NOW, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BAD THINGS IN COLORADO, INCLUDING SHOOTINGS AND IN MOVIE THEATERS.

YOU KNOW, I CARRY A GUN IN A MOVIE THEATER BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY STARTS, YOU KNOW, STARTS LIGHTING OFF SOME ROUNDS, I DON'T WANT THE ONLY THING IN MY HAND IS A POPCORN BOX.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO IT.

YOU KNOW, I LIVE TWO, TWO OR THREE MILES FROM COLUMBINE.

YOU HAD A TEACHER THAT WAS SHOT THAT BLED OUT AND DIED, INCLUDING 19 ON THE PEOPLE.

YOU HAD SWAT, YOU HAD POLICE, YOU HAD SHERIFFS.

THEY DIDN'T GET ANY ANSWER UNTIL THE SHOOTING STOPPED.

OKAY. CONSIDER THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT IF A BAD GUY COMES IN AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A GUN, I MEAN, YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU NEED TO HAVE ONE TO PROTECT YOURSELF. MY WIFE SHOOTS BETTER THAN ME AND I DARE TO SAY IF SHE SHOOTS BETTER THAN YOU.

BECAUSE WHEN SHE CHANGED, WHEN WHEN WE TRAINED IN COLORADO, SHE PUT EVERY ONE OF OUR SHOTS IN A FIST.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. I ASKED HER, ACTUALLY, THEY ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED TO BE PART OF A DEPUTY SHERIFF PROGRAM.

SHE WON'T CARRY AND SHE SHOULDN'T CARRY.

SHE DOESN'T LIKE HAVING IT.

THAT'S WHY I DO THAT.

SO I'M ASKING YOU JUST CONSIDER THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? RANDALL AND MR. COCHRAN? WELL, LOOK.

COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNSEL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOKWOOD STREET, NORTHEAST.

ALWAYS LIKE TO LEAD WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GRATITUDE, AND I GOT TO SHARE SOME GRATITUDE FOR THE CURFEW.

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE, SO I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR YOU BRING THAT UP, MR. MAYOR.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.