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[CALL TO ORDER]
I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.AND LOGAN, HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME? LOUIS. LOGAN.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR BYLAWS, IT'S THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
I'LL BE STEPPING DOWN AS CHAIR.
LET'S MISPRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME.
YOU'LL BE STEPPING FROM THE VICE CHAIR TO THE CHAIR IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR BYLAWS.
AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR.
CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ARE NOW THE CHAIR.
SO, FRANK, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A MOTION TO ADD ITEM JUST FOR THE RECORD? BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA, BUT IT'S IN THE BYLAWS.
MAKE A MOTION TO FOR THE ELECTION.
FOR THE VICE CHAIR. YES. SO ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS, WE NEED TO ELECT A VICE CHAIR.
SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA.
THAT CORRECT. MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE ELECTION FOR A VICE CHAIR TO THE AGENDA.
AYE, I. WHO MADE THE MOTION? DAVID JONES MADE THE MOTION.
THANK YOU. YES, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE I, I ANY OPPOSED.
I'M SEEING NONE. I VOTE I IN THAT MOTION PASSES.
NOMINATION. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. JONES. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.
I'M SEEING NONE. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. JONES AS THE VICE CHAIR.
NOW, SECOND, THAT WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED? NO. OPPOSED. AND THAT MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU TO BE HERE EVERY NIGHT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO MOVING ON.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
WE HAVE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES OF THE 2020 2-07 OCTOBER 24TH, 2022 MEETING.FRANK, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.
FOURTH PARAGRAPH WHERE IT STARTS WITH MS..
FRAZIER INQUIRED ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS.
YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT'S THE TYPE.
THAT WAS MY ONLY CORRECTION ON THERE.
AND HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE MINUTE.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE.
CHANGE ON NUMBER ONE LINE FOR CORRECTING TYPE TYPO CORRECTION.
NUMBER ONE, SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I, I AND ANY OPPOSED UNOPPOSED AND I VOTE I IN THAT MOTION PASSES.
NEXT WE'RE MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
[BUSINESS]
WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE ROAD PAVING PROGRAM FOR MR. WATANABE. RIGHT.AGAIN, FRANK WATANABE, YOUR CITY ENGINEER.
I'M ALSO YOUR STAFF FOR THE IOB MEETINGS.
THE CITY COUNCIL ROAD BOND PAVING IS $250 MILLION ON.
ROADS. IN ADDITION TO THE HUNDRED AND $50 MILLION THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO VOTED.
AFTER THE BOND. STARTED TO START MAINTAINING ITS ROAD, TOO AS WELL.
SO WHAT I HAVE SHOWN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE CALL THE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
SO FOR THE FIRST YEAR, WE DID A FEW STREETS.
THIS THIS IS OUR SECOND BIG LARGE GO AROUND.
SO WE'RE USING A FISCAL YEAR 2023 ROAD MAINTENANCE PRETTY MUCH.
SO WE'RE DOING THE PHASES WHAT'S LEFT IN PHASE ONE AND FACE SOME PHASE TWO.
THOSE ARE ALL THE UNITS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS A $2.2 MILLION.
THESE ARE THE OLD PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWN OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THESE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE TAKEN LAST FRIDAY OFF OF BIANCA.
REJUVENATION CREW IS HERE AND THEY'RE REJUVENATING ALL OUR STREETS.
THEY HOPE TO HAVE IT DONE IN 90 DAYS.
JUST AGAIN, AS A IS A THEY CALL IT A ALL MY MIX WHERE IT HAS WHAT THEY CALL A RECLAIMED TO ADD THE MINERALS AND MAKE THE ASPHALT LAST LONGER.
IT'S A WAY TO REENERGIZE THE POLYMER MIX.
IT IS A LIQUID BASE YOU SPREAD IT ON.
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IT DRIES WITHIN 15 TO 20 MINUTES.THEN SOON AFTER IT BECOMES TACKY, THEY SPRAY SAND ON, WHICH IS THE LAST SHOW IN THE DUMP TRUCK.
THE WHOLE OPERATION IS DONE, LIKE IN 30 MINUTES.
BOTH THE STREETS AND ALL THOSE STREETS THAT I SHOWED BEFORE.
THIS IS OUR REJUVENATION PROGRAM.
IT GIVES THE ROADS THAT WE PAVED.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS FIVE YEARS AFTER THIS, WE'LL START DOING IT AGAIN, STARTING WITH THE YEAR ONE.
THESE TREATS AGAIN, HOPEFULLY GIVEN US ANOTHER TEN YEARS.
SO WE HAVE A 20 YEAR PAYMENT LIFE.
FIVE AND FIVE THAT GIVES 30 YEARS.
LITTLE TOOLS. EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE ASPHALT, THE PRICE.
MINIMUS BECAUSE IT'S VERY LITTLE.
EVEN THOSE 2.2 MILLION GET A LOT OF ROADS DONE AND IT GIVES US FIVE MORE YEARS.
WE'RE MIXING AROUND TRYING TO GET.
I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP LATER ON WHAT WE SAID AT THE FIRST SHOW.
WE DID NOTHING ABOUT PHASE ONE THE SECOND YEAR.
PHASE TWO HAS SO MANY STREETS WE STARTED.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS MANY AS WE CAN AND CLOSE CLOSER AREAS, BUNDLE THEM ALL IN THE SAME AREA, BECAUSE IT TAKES MORE FOR THIS TO MOBILIZE THE TRUCKS TO DIFFERENT AREAS SO WE CAN TEST THEM ALL IN ONE AREA AND HIT ONE AREA ALL AT ONCE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, MAJORITY OF THE REJUVENATION IN THE NORTHEAST.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION? DO YOU PREFER THEM AFTER OR ACTIVELY WHILE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THEM? YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS. I'M OPEN RIGHT NOW.
NOW WE'RE INTO THE ROAD PAVING.
IS THAT WHERE YOU TEAR UP? THE WHOLE ROAD IS GONE.
HIGHEST COST AFTER THAT IS WHAT THEY CALL A DEEP LIFT.
AC WHERE YOU PUT IN A THICKER LAYER OF ASPHALT AT THE BASE AND YOU PUT A THICKER ASPHALT.
YOU COULD DO THAT IN A LOT OF STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE A HIGH WATER TABLE.
MAJORITY OF OUR STREETS, THEY HAVE HIGH WATER TABLE.
SO WHAT WE USE IS WHAT WE CALL THE FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION, WHERE WE USE CEMENT.
THAT HELP? A SOLID WITHIN A WET WATER TABLE AREA.
SO THAT'S WHY WE. FDR WITH CEMENT AND EMULSION.
SO MAJORITY OF OUR HEAVY REPAIR WORK IS FDR.
THEN COMES MILL AND PAVE CATCH THE ROAD EARLY ON.
WE COULD PAVE IT IF WE CATCH THE ROAD.
EVEN EARLIER, WE COULD JUST DO A THIN LIFT OVERLAY.
GOOD EXAMPLES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW ON EMERSON BETWEEN MINTON AND JUPITER.
THAT'S. IT'S AN OVERLAY THAT'LL GIVE US ANOTHER 20 YEAR LIFE ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S ALREADY PROBABLY HAS THAT ROAD IS IN GOOD SHAPE.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER 30 YEARS, YOU COULD SAY, BECAUSE THAT EXISTING ASPHALT IS STILL GOOD.
THE FINAL ONE IS STILL A TREATMENT CALLED MICRO SURFACING.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE HAD SOME BAD EXAMPLES.
WE TRIED IT OUT FIRST ON KOGAN, WORKED OUT GREAT.
WE DID ALL KOGAN FROM SANFILIPPO TO BABCOCK.
PERFECT. ON ONE YEAR WE TOOK A LEAP OF FAITH AND TRIED TO DO A BIGGER AREA.
THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS NEW MICRO.
SECOND GO ROUND PHASE TWO, WE DID 1718, A LOT OF STREETS.
YOU HAVE THESE TIRED DIVOTS, THE THING WOULDN'T DRY.
YOU HAD ALL THESE TIRE DRIVEN DRIVEWAYS.
TRY TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACT.
WE WENT TO NUMEROUS DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WENT TO.
SO TO RESOLVE THIS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ST LUCIE COUNTY, ST LUCIE THAT WAS DOING THE SAME SERVICING, THEY HAD NO PROBLEMS. WE HAD THE PROBLEMS. WE TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH THE TEMPERATURE MIX, IT NEVER RESOLVE IT.
SO WE JUST KIND OF BACKED OFF.
AND WE SAW IT TOO, IN OTHER AREAS.
WE WENT THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE.
CONTRACTOR WAS DOING MICRO SERVICING.
SO SO THE THE PROBLEM WAS STILL THERE.
AND NOW THERE'S A NEW TYPE OF MICRO SERVICING IS CALLED A NEW 6% POLYMER.
6% POLYMER IS ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT THE PREVIOUS POLYMER RATE POLYMER IS, WHAT MAKES IT STRONG.
ADD IT TO THE ASPHALT EMULSION WE HAVE.
WE USE OUR ASPHALT DESIGN MIX.
WE USE THE HIGHEST. WE USE AN ASPHALT WE CALL A PERFORMANCE GRADE.
IT HAS A 6%, WHICH IS A 76 TO 22.
EXPECT THAT ON ALL OUR ASPHALT ASPHALT.
THIS IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE HIGH END SIX.
I'M HEARING THAT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE 6%.
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IT DOESN'T CREATE THOSE TIRE DIVOTS.HOWEVER YOU PAY FOR. I DOUBLE THEM OUT.
S. WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS OUR AREA.
AS YOU SEE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A UNIT 40.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A MORE INDUSTRIAL APARTMENT.
THERE ARE SOME STREETS THAT ARE STILL IN GOOD SHAPE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND USING A CIRCLE AND MERCURY AVENUE.
SHOWING AS ANOTHER PILOT PROJECT TO TEST OUT.
MY POLYMER IF IT WOULD LAST AND NOT HAVE THE TIRE DIVOTS.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT AN OPTION WITHIN OUR TOOLBOX BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING AT THE LOWER END.
WE CAN'T JUST KEEP OVERLAYING STREETS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RUN OUT OF MONEY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
YEAH. SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THIS FOR UNIT 40? IF THAT WORKS OUT TO 17 AND 46 WOULD STILL BE UNDER WARRANTY.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DEALING WITH THE SAME CONTRACTOR DOING THIS TEST AND CONTRACTOR FOR THE ONES WE DID? THEY'RE ALL PASSED. SO ANYTHING FROM THIS POINT ON WILL HAVE TO BE WHATEVER THE CONTRACT.
RIGHT. I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS WHOLE AREA BACK HERE, WHICH IS UNITS 3940.
IS 26. MICROSOFT BACKED OUT OF IT.
IT GOES BACK ON THE BOOKS AND MICROSERVICE.
THING WORKS OUT. WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF UNITS IN UNIT FIVE.
NO MICROSERVICE AND WE HAVE THE OVERLAY AND OVERLAYS ARE WAY MORE COST.
THE. I HAVEN'T GOT A QUOTE YET, BUT IT'S STILL WITHIN THE RANGE OF THE MICRO.
SO MAYBE. I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER YET BECAUSE THE FIRST CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE IN.
HE'S. AS THAT CONTRACT IS ISSUED, I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF IT.
THIS IS FROM FLORIDA. TEXAS IS ALREADY DOING THIS.
SEVERAL OTHER STATES ARE ALREADY DOING THIS.
AS SOON AS I KNOW FOR SURE GAINESVILLE IS THE ONLY ONE RIGHT NOW THAT HAS A CONTRACT.
COST BETWEEN THIS TYPE OF POLYMER AND MELON.
THINK WHEN YOU WENT OVER WITH US THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF.
DIFFERENT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TOOLS THAT YOU'RE USING.
WHICH LASTED TEN YEARS, YOU COULD DO FOR TWO YEARS.
NOW THEY'RE SAYING YOU CAN MAKE A SERVICE OF THREE YEARS.
ACTUAL ROCK MATERIAL, MICRO SURFACING HAS FINE AGGREGATES, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A STRUCTURAL.
SO YOU GIVEN LIFE FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE STRUCTURAL LIFE.
SO IF YOUR ROADWAY STARTS HAVING PROBLEMS. THE ASPHALT PROVIDES A LITTLE STRUCTURE TO IT.
HAVE ANY STRUCTURE TO IT. MADE EVEN FASTER.
HE'LL SOME SORT OF A. WHEELBASE.
HOWEVER, IF YOUR ASPHALT STARTS TO FALL APART AND YOU START SEEING.
YES. THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO REJUVENATE IT.
I'M. TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE HAVE A WHOLE RANGE IN OUR TOOLBOX RIGHT NOW AT THE VERY LOW END. LOWEST SCALE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
EVEN THAT WHICH PUSH RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU START OFF WITH AN INCH AND A HALF.
ASPHALT RIGHT NOW IS INCREASING.
THINK. CASH AT THE RIGHT TIME OVER THERE AS WELL.
OUR OUR ASPHALT PRICES AND CEMENT PRICES.
THE PRICES. WAS POSSIBLE TO BE COMPETITIVE.
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HESITANT ABOUT.PRODUCT THAT WE'VE NEVER USED.
WE'RE NOT SURE HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.
I CAME FROM CALIFORNIA. IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 34 YEARS.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MEET THE NEEDS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET YOUR.
NOT GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY.
YOU HAVE TO PAY. WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY.
THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DEFICIENT ROADWAYS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
ACTUALLY, EVEN THOUGH THE TIRE DIVOTS DON'T LOOK GOOD, IT STILL PROVIDES THAT COATING PROTECTION.
IT'S STILL PROVIDING THAT COATING.
IF DIVOT THOSE ROADWAYS ARE STILL PROTECTED.
SO THE DIVOT IS JUST A COSMETIC SITUATION.
MY SPECTRUM. YOU SAID LIKE 4 TO $8.
WAS THAT GOING FROM THE OTHER POLYMER TO THIS? THE. OXFORD IS.
IF THAT'S THE. NEXT SLIDE STEP THE LAYERS OVERLAY WHERE YOU TALK.
AM I NOT REMEMBERING? I FEEL LIKE. I HAD A COUPLE YEARS.
THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TO.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR ROADWAY, SOME OF YOUR ROADWAYS THAT ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.
DOESN'T OVERLAY MANY STREETS THAT NOT NEED.
MAKES MORE THAN JUST REJUVENATION.
REJUVENATION. JUST ADDING THE OIL MIXTURE BACK INTO IT.
MAKE. SO WHAT? GO AHEAD. SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS A WAR STRATEGY.
MY ASSUMPTION THIS IS AN AD STRATEGY.
SO THERE ARE SOME ROADS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE OVERLAID.
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MICRO SURFACING THOSE.
THAT IS CORRECT. IN THE ORIGINAL START OF THE ROAD PROGRAM, WE HAD AN OVERALL ANALYSIS DONE.
IS IT RATING OF 100 WHICH IS GREAT THAT.
HAVE A LOT OF STREETS THAT ARE TODAY.
IT IS STILL IN THE EIGHTIES. 80.
ANYTHING BEYOND MAYBE LOOKING AT.
NOT A BANDAGE. YOU STILL ADDING LIFE TO.
YOU CAN DO IT TWICE NOW, THREE TIMES.
SO YOU'RE JUST ADDING PROTECTION? PRETTY MUCH. WELL, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
WHO IS THE CURRENT VENDOR THAT YOU ALL HAVE? WORKING ON THE ROAD.
THE UPDATE THAT YOU JUST GAVE THAT STARTED ON JANUARY 17TH.
WE HAVE RANGER WORKING IN TWO AREAS AND WE HAVE ROADS CONTRACT.
ONE AREA, BUT HE'S ALSO SUBBED OUT HIS PAVING.
OKAY. AND THEN IS THIS A NEW CONTRACT OR IS THIS OR DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN EXISTING MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, LIKE A MULTI YEAR CONTRACT FOR THE REJUVENATION? WE HAVE PIGGYBACKED AND WE HAVE A.
WHO WAS THAT PIGGYBACK FROM? JUST ONE MORE THING.
IF YOU USE A 6% POLYMER MIX ON UNIT 40, THAT CONTRACT IS PUT OUT.
IS THIS ESTHETIC PROBLEM GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THAT CONTRACT? I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING NOW WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX 17 OR 46 ESTHETIC REASONS.
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BUT NO, HE'S SAYING THEY HAVEN'T USED THIS.RIGHT. WHAT'S GOING TO KNOW? SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THAT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT, THAT GUARANTEE.
IF IT WORKS, I COULD PUT ANOTHER CODE AND YOU COULD DOUBLE CODE.
TRIPLE CODE? WORK THE MICRO SERVICING ON 1746.
YOU KNOW, THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, YEARS, IT'S STILL IT'S STILL THERE.
THAT'S WHEN IT'S TIME TO QUIT OR.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT IF THAT TIME.
SO. CAUSE YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.
THAT'S CORRECT. THE GAINESVILLE.
OH, GAINESVILLE OC WILL BE THE FIRST.
SO THE VENDORS, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY VENDORS THAT HAVE APPLIED IT OUTSIDE OF FLORIDA LIKE THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE? THE VENDORS HAVE APPROACHED US AND THEY'VE ALREADY CAME TO OUR OFFICE AND SHOW SOME EXAMPLES.
THAT'S HOW I GOT THE INFORMATION.
THEY'RE STRONG IN TEXAS AND THEY'RE STRONG IN OTHER STATES.
AND BY THAT PRODUCT, THEIR PRODUCT PRODUCT LISTING MAKES IT EASIER.
FDA HAS NOT FDA HAS NEVER ACCEPTED SERVICES.
WRITABLE ALTERNATIVE SPEC OUT A MICRO SPEC THAT DOES NOT APPLY IN.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIGHER ROADWAYS THAT REQUIRE.
BECAUSE OF THAT, IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR COMPANIES TO GET INTO FLORIDA BECAUSE.
HERE. AND THIS SOLICITATION IS ACTIVE IS ACTIVE RIGHT NOW AT GAINESVILLE OR THEY'VE ALREADY CLOSED IT AND WAITING TO AWARD. ARE YOU NOT SURE IT'S ADVERTISED? I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IS BEING ADVERTISED.
SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ADVERTISING.
MY BACKGROUND. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ALL IN THE BUSINESS, THE PROCUREMENT BUSINESS.
JUST MOVING ON. AGAIN, THIS MICROSERVICE.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
YOU SAID THAT. THAT THEY CAME AND YOU SPOKE WITH THE VENDORS.
BUT I'M JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY AND MAYBE I MISSED IT.
HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO ANY OF THE CLIENTS OR THE CITIES OR TO GET FEEDBACK? AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU DO THAT AS FAR AS REACHING OUT TO SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS USE THIS.
TELL ME, LIKE, HOW'S IT WORKING OUT? BECAUSE THE VENDOR IS GOING TO SAY, IT'S AMAZING.
WE HAVE. JUST LIKE WHEN THE WHEN THE ORIGINAL.
I REACHED OUT TO NUMEROUS CITIES COUNTIES AND I WENT DOWN TO COUNTIES.
IT HAD NO PROBLEMS. YOU HAD PROBLEMS SOME CITIES HAD.
GAINESVILLE. I BELIEVE IT'S THE TEMPERATURE SITUATION.
AS SOON AS GAINESVILLE STARTS IT, I WILL CALL THEM GET.
NO OTHER PLACES ARE INTERESTED AS WELL.
I WILL CALL THEM AS WELL. THE CITIES THAT WE ARE THAT.
X AND Z. I WANT TO JUST TRY IT.
WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
THIS IS ABOUT THE BEST OPTION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE.
STILL. AND A CHEAPER BOX OR CAPSULE I.
BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AND IT DOES WORK AS THAT PROTECTIVE.
THAT ROUTE HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
WE DIDN'T OVERLAY IT. WE DID IT.
IT LOOKED BLACK. IT LOOKED GREAT.
IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A BRAND NEW ROAD.
SO WHAT WE DO IS. AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED.
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AGAIN, THERE'S NO WORD.DOES IT SAY ESTHETICS IS AN ISSUE.
I'M SAYING THAT THE PRODUCT WAS STILL THERE AND IT'S STILL LASTING.
DOESN'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE A CHECK OFF.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THEY CAME BACK AROUND AND THEY DID NUMEROUS.
NOT REPAIRS BUT TESTING NUMEROUS WHERE THEY CAME BACK AND ACTUALLY FOG SEALED MANY STREETS.
REMEMBER WHEN THEY CAME HERE AND THEY WERE TELLING US THEY DID WHATEVER THEY COULD, THEY CAME BACK.
REALLY SCRAPE IT, FILL IT OFF THE MILLING OFF A STRUCTURAL PIECE OF ASPHALT.
THE GOAL IS HALF INCH DOWN TO HALF INCH.
GOOD ASPHALT. I ACTUALLY DESTROYED.
AND THIS. THIS IS THE PHOTOGRAPH WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED.
IT WASN'T LOVELY WHEN WE FIRST STARTED AND RANGER WAS THE ONE DOING THE FDR IN THIS SECTION.
THE NEXT ONE IS OUR UNIT 34, WHICH IS TIM ROWE'S CONTRACTING.
WE HAVE ABOUT 40% FDR AND ABOUT 8% PAVED.
SO THEY'RE DOWN THERE IN UNIT 30.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF HAPPY PEOPLE DOWN THERE BECAUSE THOSE LAST AREAS THAT DIDN'T HAVE.
FILLING IN PAVING OF DEGROOT THAT WAS COMPLETED THAT ENTIRE SECTION ABOUT FOUR MILES.
THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF BOOT HAS BEEN TAKEN.
THEN. A UNIT 48 IS THIS AREA UP HERE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN PHASE THREE.
LET'S TAKE CARE OF ALL THE FIGURES IN THAT UNIT.
AND THEN THEY'VE ALSO STARTED, WHICH I CALL EMERSON TURN LANES, ADD TURN LANES TO THAT SIGNAL.
AND PAID THE ENTIRE SECTION OF AMADOR.
I'LL GIVE YOU THAT WHOLE STRETCH OF.
THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE ORIGINAL MAP HAS THE COLORS, THE PURPLE, THE YELLOW GREEN.
THAT'S THE FIVE YEAR OR THE FIVE PHASE.
DARK BLUE WAS THE FIRST YEAR YELLOW WAS THE PHASE TWO AND DISSOLUTION OF THE PHASE TWO.
ALL THAT. THE COUNTRY CLUB IS THE LAST ONE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
HAVE WORD OF LAST WEEK WAS THE NORTHEAST AREA, WHICH IS THE LAST LARGEST AREA.
YOU KNOW, THEN SHOWN IN KIND OF LIKE THE GREEN IS PHASE THREE AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF 48 WAS DONE 30, WE'RE IN 30 AND 13 AND 14 IS AS CURRENTLY ADVERTISED RIGHT NOW.
GIVE YOU A HIGHLIGHT ON THOSE.
THIS IS THE KIND OF COST BREAKDOWN.
SEE WHERE WE'RE HEADED RIGHT NOW? WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A DEFICIT.
THOSE ARE ALL BASED ON LAST YEAR'S ASPHALT AND CEMENT COSTS.
SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE WAY LESS THAN.
GONE. I DON'T CHANGE THESE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A MOVING TARGET.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT GOES UP OR DOWN.
HE IS A MOVING TARGET BECAUSE.
SUPPLY AND DEMAND. THOSE APPLY.
HAVE. GOOD. HUGE CONTRACT ON $1,000,000.
THEY'LL TRY TO DROP DOWN THAT ASPHALT COSTS AS BEST THEY CAN.
WELL, I HATE TO SAY THE ONLY COMES OUT WITH ONE CONTRACT AND THEIR PRICE IS THREE 400 A TONNE.
OUR CURRENT ONE, THE LAST TIME AROUND WAS JUST UNDER 200.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
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LET ME GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THE COST UPDATE WHERE WE SIT, PRETTY MUCH WE'RE AT 40%, SO NOT REALLY GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE AT 50%.AT 40%. TO CATCH UP AGAIN, I WAS 48.
WE'RE ABOUT 93% DONE SO WITH THAT.
HER STRADDLING ON BOTH SIDE OF.
IT TALKED ABOUT. WE HAD A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING.
SEND A. IS SANDRIDGE, SANDRIDGE, THAT AREA.
WE HAD A RANGE OF ABOUT READY TO START SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY, THAT PROJECT.
AND THEN THE NORTHEAST AREA WAS AWARDED LAST WEEK FROM COUNCIL TO RANGE AS WELL.
AND THAT ENDS UP ALL THAT NORTHEAST AREA WE'VE DONE.
NEW ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT NOW AS UNITS 13.
YEAR THREE ALSO INCLUDES MADDEN OSMOSIS.
BIG DUE DATE. HIT WITH THE ROAD PAVING.
THIS IS THE YEAR FOR PHASE FOUR.
SO YOU ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE.
THE FIRST ONE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HIT IS 44.
THE REASON WHY I HAVEN'T STARTED ALL OF THESE IS BECAUSE I'M WAITING FOR THE PIPES.
44 PIPES IS READY TO BE LET OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT.
SO. ONLY THAT WOULD BE UNITS 50 AND 45 AND 45 IS LOCKED.
THESE ALSO HAVE TO DO PIPES, EVEN THOUGH SAY FRANK.
GET IT OUT TO GET IT OUT TO BID.
I CAN'T BECAUSE THE PIPES. UNITS ARE STILL HOLDING FOR THE PIPE.
UM. AND HAVE YOU HAD TO DO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM IN THE PORT MALABAR AREA WHERE THEY HAVE THE CURBSIDE? OR SIDE DRAINS.
RECT NEED FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS LIKE A TRAILER OR SOMETHING.
WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
ALL THE PIPE REPLACEMENTS ARE PAID.
UNDER STORMWATER, WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THAT AREA? YEAH. MIAMI.
MIAMI. DRAINS ARE ALL SO GOOD BEFORE WE PAY FOR THAT, ACTUALLY.
ACTUALLY, A LOT OF THEM ARE IN BAD SHAPE.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT NOW IN THE STORMWATER AS MUCH AS EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE DON'T LIKE.
BUT IF FUNDS JUST LET YOU KNOW, LIKE THE EARLY PHASES, LIKE 30 AND 31.
I JUST KNOW THAT THAT AREA IS DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER PART OF THE CITY BECAUSE OF THOSE.
BOX CULVERTS WE'RE PUTTING IN THESE PIPES.
WE'RE DO. IT'S IT'S NOTHING COMPARED TO LIKE, WE'RE NOT DOING THE ENTIRE ELECTRIC ROAD PAVING.
WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF EVERY DRAINAGE PROBLEM.
WE'RE JUST. AND YOU KNOW FOR SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF PIPES THAT ARE JUST QUESTIONABLE, BUT.
HAVE SUFFICIENT. ALL OF US DO.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN 150 MILLION TO DO ALL THE PIPES.
SOME OF THESE PIPES REQUIRE A LARGE BOX CULVERT.
SOME OF IT IS JUST TO PERMIT YOU.
THAT'S WHAT WE SIT. AND PRETTY MUCH THAT'S IT.
WHAT TYPE OF METHOD ARE YOU GOING TO BE USING BY THE TIME YOU GET TO UNIT EIGHT IN THE REST OF THE.
FIVE. SO THE PHASE FIVE SHOULD TACOMA IS IN THE PINK.
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COMPANY THAT DID AN OVERALL ANALYSIS.THEY WENT OUT THERE VIDEOTAPE ALL THE STREETS RECORD.
DOESN'T. TAKES A LONG TIME AND IT REQUIRES HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
A RESIDENTIAL STREET TAKES A LOT MORE THAN JUST YOUR CAR AT AMAZON.
SAYING DOES COME TO MY HOUSE A LOT, THOUGH.
SO. SO IS MINE. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT DESTROYS THE ASPHALT IS HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
NOT EVEN THAT DUMP TRUCKS, CEMENT TRUCKS, CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS, HEAVY, HEAVY LOADS, STOPPING BREAKING GARBAGE TRUCKS, MAYBE LIKE IN CUL DE SACS, WHETHER YOU HAVE TO MAKE THOSE TURNS. BUT TYPICALLY THE WASTE IS DISTRIBUTED WITH THEIR DUAL AXLES.
THEN I WOULD SAY. MOST OF OUR LOCAL STREETS.
THEY'RE GOING TO LAST. WE HAVE A STRONG POLYMER MIX EXPECTED A.
BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE SEE THERE, ALAS.
CASE FIVE. ARE YOU TALKING? I COULD SEE THEN LIFTS, MAYBE SOME FOG SEALS, MAYBE SOME OTHER METHODS.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN I. WHEN I SAY.
LIKE. THESE ARE APPLICATIONS AS.
WANT TO BE ABLE. LIFE SPAN OF THE ROADWAY.
RIGHT NOW, MOST OF THE STREETS WITH 80% ON THESE LOCAL STREETS.
PUT A MICRO AND LOOK BACK AGAIN.
MOST PEOPLE WON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
NO, SORRY. WE'VE ONLY SPENT ABOUT 70.
THAT'S THAT'S OUT RIGHT NOW, OUT FOR ADVERTISING.
NINE IN THE 49 COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO ADD THAT TO THE YEAR THREE PHASE THREE STS.
SO WE ADD IT TO 13 OF 14 CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW ADVERTISED OUT.
HOW. I KNOW IS THE ONE OFF OF.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
IS IT A POSSIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT SO THAT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MICRO SURFACING OR DOING A THIN OVERLAY OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, LIKE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE AND WHY? LIKE, LIKE JUST TO PHYSICALLY SEE, I'LL GET YOU A SNAPSHOT.
I HAD A SLIDE BEFORE WHEN WE WERE OUR OWN COUNCILMEMBER MR. BAILEY ALWAYS WANTED.
SO I HAVE A SNAPSHOT OF LIKE THE COST PER TON OR COST PER SQUARE YARD.
SO IT'S LIKE APPLES TO APPLES, SO YOU CAN SEE.
PRICE. I'LL GET YOU THAT FOR THE NEXT.
IT WAS AND OVER EACH METHOD AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN COST WAS.
JUST. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THIS TABLE.
SORRY. THIS TABLE IS PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL EVERY MONTH.
BUT IN THIS TABLE ON THE BOTTOM, IT GIVES YOU THE BREAKDOWN.
SO IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNCIL PACKET UNDER CONSENT CALENDARS, YOU SEE ROAD PAVING UPDATE THIS TABLE PLUS SOME INFORMATION ON THE BOTTOM THAT TELLS YOU WHAT THE SUMMARY OF. CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ABOUT $26 MILLION DEFICIT.
KNOW THAT WHEN YOU USED TO USE NUMBERS, THESE NUMBERS I SAID, WERE OVERLAYING PAVING EVERYTHING.
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I REMEMBER WAY BACK.AND THEN I KNOW AND WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT WAS GOING TO CHANGE.
YEAH. AND I LIKE AND SO, LIKE, IT SHOWS.
IF YOU CAN BE RESPONSIBLE, YOU ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE.
BUT THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SHIFT IN THE COST.
WE'RE REALLY GOOD. AND IF WE CAN'T BE, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE PROGRAM, WE WERE WE WERE UNDER THE CURVE, WHICH WAS GREAT.
BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL DID A GREAT JOB BECAUSE THEY'RE HOLDING THE.
EVERY PENNY OF THE BOND MONEY.
STARTED THIS PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO HIRE ENGINEERS.
HIRE INSPECTORS. HIRE THIS HIRE.
I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL ENGINEERS STAFFING.
I HAD THE SAME RESPECT AS WE STARTED WITH RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S DAYS WHEN I GO OUT IN THE FIELD BECAUSE I'M RUNNING SHORT ON INSPECTORS.
NOW. WILL WE? WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET A PAVING CONTRACTOR PAY WITHOUT AN INSPECTOR.
WHEN THE PAVING CONTRACT WANTS TO BE HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INSPECTOR OUT THERE.
I KNOW A LOT OF AGENCIES. THEY DON'T DO THAT.
WE DO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR.
NIGHT OR DAY. WE HAVE INSPECTORS THAT WORK BOTH NIGHT AND DAY, SAME TIME, DAY SHIFT.
THEY'LL BREAK UP THE NIGHT SHIFT.
RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW ON EMERSON.
AS RIGHT NOW YOU'RE 26 MILLION.
IF THIS ELECTION OF 49 IS CAUTIOUS OR NOT, THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PAVE EVERY STREET.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE VERY SOUTHERN PART OF 40, NOT WHO DON'T.
THEY LIVE IN A RURAL AREA AND THEY WANT THEIR DIRT ROAD.
THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY ACCEPT. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. WE'RE GOING TO BE A DEFICIT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SHORT. NOT PAVING ALL THE STREETS.
NEED TO LOOK AT. THERE ARE TECHNIQUES LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND OTHER METHODS TO SQUEEZE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND THEN WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO FOR EVERYTHING WE CAN. WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE.
WE DO SOMETHING MORE ENGINEERING WISE TO SAVE EVERY PENNY.
WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE THAT MONEY, THAT MAKE THAT DOLLAR LAST.
NO, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT BEING FRIVOLOUS ABOUT OUR ASPHALT.
JUST MAKE SURE WE DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AS BEST WE CAN WITH.
NO. EVEN THOUGH WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER $80 MILLION SHORT, I DON'T WANT TO BE STANDING AROUND WHEN PEOPLE IN THE PINK, YOU KNOW, SAID FROM DAY ONE, I'M AN EIGHT. I DO NOT THINK I WILL.
WAY THAT THIS WAS SOLD TO ME AS A RESIDENT.
EVERYBODY WAS GOING TO GET A NEW ROAD.
I KNOW THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONE AND THOSE.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE MAYOR.
HE SAYS IT WAS CLEARLY HE WAS NOT HAPPY WHEN HE SAW THE LATEST.
NOT. SO THAT'S FRUSTRATING ME AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD AND AS A.
UNITY MEMBER, AND I'M PAYING THE SAME ASSESSMENT.
EVERYBODY ELSE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET A ROAD.
HAVE A SUGGESTION OR A REQUEST, RATHER.
KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT DAVID WAS EXPLAINING ABOUT THAT CHART.
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I DON'T CHANGE THAT CHART BECAUSE THAT'S THE CHART THAT CITY MANAGER GIVES TO THE COUNCIL.I COULD CHANGE IT MAYBE IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, YOU GUYS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I MEAN FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
YEAH, THE ONE THAT GOES TO THE COUNCIL.
THAT'S REALLY THE CITY MANAGER.
YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE. YEAH.
RECORD. WHEN I FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO THE ROADS AND WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST, I WENT DOWN TO NORTHPORT, OUR PREVIOUS ASSISTANT OR VICE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER JONATHAN LEWIS, HAD TAKEN OVER DOWN.
SEE. WOULDN'T LOOK AT WHAT THEY'D DONE.
THEY SPENT $50. THAT HALF OF WHAT WE.
EVERYTHING IS HALF THE SIZE OF.
THEY'RE DOUBLING THEIR $50 WENT LET'S GO WHERE WE'LL NEVER RUN OUT OF MONEY AND GO TO 150.
CAUSE MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT WASN'T THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A FIVE YEAR THING, THAT THIS WAS GOING TO GO OUT TO BID TO HIRE TWO OR THREE CONTRACTORS TO DO ALL THE CITIES, START AT ONE END AND GO TO THE OTHER.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN. I REMEMBER WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS.
SAME ASSESSMENT AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS PROPOSED BACK THEN.
I REMEMBER. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD HAVE WORKED EITHER.
THIS WAS BECAUSE YOU HAD TO DESIGN THE PLANS.
THERE'S NO ENGINEERING. THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WENT IN YEAR.
WE HAVE. AND THEN LIKE SAYING TO ENGINEERING COSTS IS ESCALATING.
FARMED OUT THE INNOCENT TURN LANE.
THE SIGNAL AT ST JOHN'S PARKWAY.
DESIGN. DONE THAT IN HOUSE AT ZERO.
I DON'T HAVE THE STAFF. OTHER.
RIGHT. I KNOW THAT A PART OF NOT HAVING STAFF WAS WAITING FOR THE PAY ASSESSMENT, AND I KNOW WHICH WAS A CHALLENGE FOR ALL LEADERSHIP INSIDE THE CITY TO FIND AND RETAIN TALENT.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S GONE THROUGH.
SO I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE LIKE THESE ARE JOBS YOU HAVE POSTED.
I. MADE IT CLEAR NOT PAYING ANYBODY.
BUT YOU SAID, HEY, WE'RE SHORT ENGINEERS.
DOES THAT MEAN LIKE. WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE SHORT, YOU JUST MEAN WE'RE NOT.
WE'RE NOT. WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE SIZE CITY WE ARE.
OR ARE YOU SAYING WE'RE SHORT? LIKE, IT'S ME, THIS OTHER PERSON? WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FOUR, BUT WE ONLY HAVE TWO.
OKAY, SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE SHORT, WE'RE SHORT BY DESIGN, NOT BY.
IT'S LIKE, NO, WE SHOULD HAVE FOUR, BUT WE ONLY HAVE TWO FOUR BACK THEN.
AND THEN YOU ADD DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS RISEN IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
WE'RE WAY BEHIND THE CURVE OF WHAT? I MEAN, YOU SAID YOU HAD.
SEVEN INSPECTORS. THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS.
HOUSE ARE DOING AS BEST THEY CAN ARE ROAD PAVING THE DEVELOPMENTS.
THEY TRY TO JUMP ON THOSE, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIVATELY PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER RECORD.
IT'S. KIND OF CONCERNING, TOO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE.
THAT BEING ADDRESSED, THOUGH, LIKE JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, FOR A FACT WHAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED AND WHAT'S NECESSARY? YEAH, WE HAVE ON STANDBY, WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANTS READY TO GO.
BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE A BID RIGHT NOW FROM CONCERT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE, IT'S WEIRD TO ME THAT IF YOU HIRE THAT.
CONTRACTS THAT WERE. I HAVE A VACANT POSITION WHO STILL CAN'T FILL.
THE ENGINEERING. TOO. WHEN I STARTED HERE, WE HAD VACANT.
AS SOON AS WE LOST THE ENGINEERS.
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OH, AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT ARE BETTER.THAT'S ME SPEAKING AS A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE.
GONE PRIVATE. SO YEAH, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.
I'M SPEAKING AS I USED TO BE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND YEAH, YOU CAN MAKE A LOT MORE.
VIRTUAL ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS IN GENERAL RIGHT NOW.
VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. VARIANCE ENGINEER WHO'S GOT ENOUGH YEARS TO SIGN AND SEAL PLANS.
YEAH. THEY'RE HARD TO FIND RIGHT NOW.
A LOT OF YOUNG ENGINEERS HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.
I HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO SIGN.
I'VE. LITTLE BIT OF A REPUTATION.
I'LL SAY IT. I THINK YOU'RE MORE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE SKEPTICAL ABOUT.
NOT. YEAH. AND I THINK THERE'S A LACK OF TRUST FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S HARD FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.
WANT TO STEP. KNOW THAT THERE'S.
VERY DIFFICULT. WHEN YOU ADD THE PAY ASPECT.
I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY IN ALL DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE TIME TO REBUILD THAT TRUST AND.
AND THE WAY TO BUILD THE TRUST IS BY GETTING THE PEOPLE THAT WE WON'T GET.
SO THEN THE TRUST DOESN'T COME.
SO, YEAH, SO MOVING FORWARD, BOTTOM LINE IS THE PROGRAM IS MOVING FORWARD.
RIGHT. GOING BACK TO IF YOU GUYS DO AGREE TO IT, MY STRATEGY IS AS SOON AS GAINESVILLE HAS A CONTRACT TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT CONTRACT AND DO THE TWO GO CIRCLE ON MERCURY AVENUE AS A PILOT PROJECT TO SEE IF.
ARMOR IS A GOOD APPLICATION AS.
THAT HAPPENS. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
PACK ALL THOSE MICROCHIPS. 39.
THAT. GREAT. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO JUMP INTO THE PINK.
SOME OF THOSE STREETS IN THE PINK.
I'M SERIOUS. THOSE ARE READY TO GO.
I WOULD GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF STREETS IN PINK AND GET IT OUT THIS YEAR.
COUNSEL'S REQUEST. I'M GETTING SOONER.
I COULD HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
AND LIKE I SAY, MICROSERVICES LIKE A REJUVENATION.
IT'S JUST. IT COMES OFF A TANKER TRUCK.
IT'S NOT LIKE ASPHALT AND ASPHALT.
SOME OF THE PAPER THEY DO SPRAY IT ON.
IT'S DRY. WITHIN 30, 60 MINUTES, IT'S GONE.
THEY'RE HITTING THE NEXT STREET. ANOTHER QUESTION.
WE'RE SHORT ON FUNDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THIS NEW 6% POLYMER CAN COST ABOUT TWICE AS MUCH AS THE 3% POLYMER.
BUT THE 3% POLYMER, YOU SAY, IS FINE.
SO IF IT'S JUST ESTHETICS AND IT'S FINE, WHY NOT USE THE 3% POLYMER? THAT APPEARANCE IS.
I WOULDN'T WANT THAT ON MY STREET.
LIKE ME THAT WAITED TILL THE VERY END.
THAT'S THE POINT I'M EVENTUALLY GETTING TO.
IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE RIGHT? WHY AREN'T WE GOING BACK AND THINKING 17? I BELIEVE IT IS UNDER WARRANTY.
MOST AREAS THAT ALREADY GO INTO THE 6%.
THAT'S ALL THERE. AND IT'S A BETTER PRODUCT.
ON THE SIX. LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S.
MAYBE TWO. ONE ROAD RIGHT HERE.
I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T RUN THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS FOR THE SIX.
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AND I CAN THEN GO INTO THE PINK AREAS AND I CAN RUN THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN SEE IF THERE'S A.EXTRA THAN A GOOD CHUNK OF THOSE.
WELL, BUT IT WAS MILL MILLION.
PAVE EVERY STREET FOR PAVE ALL THE PINK.
IT DOESN'T. THAT'S THE OTHER THING, TOO.
JUST THE OVERLAY ROADWAY DOESN'T NEED IT, REALLY.
I SAY IT'S ADDING MORE ASPHALT, BUT IT DOESN'T.
MUCH AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND SAYING WE'RE FINE, WE'RE GETTING THE PLANS OUT.
WE'RE IN THAT BOAT WHERE, YEAH, WE LIKE THEM MORE, BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS.
DOWNTURN TURN. A BILLION PEOPLE GO.
WE HAVE A WE HAVE A SAFETY CONSULTANT.
COMPORTMENT NOW DOING. HIGHER.
THAT'S OUR SAFETY NET. I THINK WE'RE FINE RIGHT NOW.
I. I WOULD SAY, LIKE I SAID, I WAS TOLD IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ADVERTISED.
YEAH. SO IT CLOSES ON THE 30TH.
I FOUND IT. I LOOKED AT THE PLAN HOLDERS.
I GET THAT CLOSURE AND I GET THAT BID NUMBER.
I COULD RUN THE NUMBERS. WANT ME TO GIVE IT TO YOU? I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN HAVE YOU THE NEXT.
NOW I'M INTERESTED TO I WANT TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF IT WORKS.
OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST BEING HONEST ABOUT THAT.
I GO TO ST LUCIE COUNTY AND THEN SAY, WHAT YOU AND WHAT? I PICKED. YOU.
THIS NOBLEMAN HAD. OH, YES, THEY DID.
OH, YES. OH, WE RAN OUT THERE AND DIDN'T.
AND DIDN'T WE THINK IT POTENTIALLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TEMPERATURE? IT WAS DISCUSSED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THE TEMPERATURE IS YOU NEED TO DO IT IN THE COOLER MONTHS.
SO WHEN WE DO THIS, WE'LL BE IN THE COOLER MONTHS.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO DO IN THE SUMMER AGAIN.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE RIGHT.
TESTING EQUIPMENT, MAKE SURE THAT THE EMULSION MIX IS RIGHT.
CHECK ALL THE TRUCKS AND TANKERS AND MAKE SURE IT IS DONE RIGHT.
IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE DON'T.
I SAID, I'M WAITING BECAUSE IT'S STILL COOL.
I WANT TO DO IT IN THE COOL MONTHS.
GOOD EXAMPLE. WHEN WE DID KOGAN, THE ONE THAT DID SUCH A GREAT JOB FOR YEARS, WE ACTUALLY DID IT.
IT WAS. AND AT NIGHT WE DID AT NIGHT.
OH, YEAH. SORRY FOR THE MEETING THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER WITH COUNCIL.
WHAT DOES THAT WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHEN IS THAT? DETAILS.
AGAIN, I WAS JUST TOLD BY THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE I INFORM THE BOARD, WHICH I DID, THAT THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADVISORY BOARD. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA I WORKED ON.
THEN YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A JOINT.
ALL CITY COUNCIL. SO BE DOWN HERE LIKE A BIG CIRCLE.
SO A LOT OF THIS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY MAYBE BROUGHT UP AGAIN.
MAYBE THEY WANT ME TO DO THE SAME PRESENTATION.
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SO THAT'S YOUR MAIN ROLE IS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE FUTURE ROADWAYS, WIDENING EXTENSIONS LIKE THE ST JOHN'S CONNECTION DOWN THE COMPOUND AREA.BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING 80 MILES NOW, YOU SLAM ON YOUR BASE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO REAR IN THOSE CARS, RIGHT? LANE OOH. IF NAFTA'S BEEN FULLY AWARE AND THEY ARE DO SOME ASSESSMENTS, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE LIMITED TO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, F DOT IS GOING TO OVERLAY. THEY CALL IT IT'S LIKE A MILLION PAVE I 95 FROM THE RIVER COUNTY LINE ALL THE WAY UP TO JUST PAST MELBOURNE.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOME ACCOUNTS WITH SOME.
CHANGES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH TO SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS CAN.
I BELIEVE THAT THOSE INTERCHANGES LIKE PALM BAY ROAD AND MALABAR ROAD.
RAMPS. HEIGHT DAM IS NOT MADE TO CARRY THAT MUCH.
I. OTHER ISSUE IS YOU GET ALL THAT TRAFFIC PILING UP ON THE FREEWAY, THE GRIDLOCK.
HAVE LONGER QUEUES RAMPS TO YOUR TRAFFIC.
IT'S JAM JAM WITH THE FREEWAYS AND YOU JAM UP THE RAMPS.
YEAH. HAVE THEY HAVE FREEWAY RAMPS? RAMPS? ONLY WAY TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING IS TO KEEP IT ALL UNDER CONTROL.
WE HAVE IT TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 20TH.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE LAST.
IS IT THE 20TH OR 27TH? I THINK IT'S THE SECOND. HE IS THE SECOND TO LAST OC.
ALSO, IT'S THE FOURTH VERSUS 27TH WOULD BE THE JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL.
AGENDA. AGAIN, THE GENDER WILL GO OUT AND SO YOU'LL BE PREPPED IN ADVANCE FOR THAT MEETING.
I MEAN. I HAVEN'T MET WITH ANY OTHER BOARD.
JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS ON THE RECORD.
NOW, AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY THIS, I WILL NOT BE IN TOWN ON FEBRUARY 27TH.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'LL BE HERE ON THE 27.
YES, I'M 27. I'LL BE ON THE WEST COAST, SO.
I GUESS I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU GUYS.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE AN ENDORSEMENT OF IT, SO.
NOW LET'S SEE. AGAIN, I'M JUST INTRODUCING THIS AND GETTING YOUR FEEDBACK.
NO MATTER WHAT, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WOULD WANT TO SEE IF IT DOESN'T WORK.
IT'S ANOTHER GREAT TOOL TO HAVE.
SO I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE ENDORSING IT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ANYWAY.
BECAUSE HERE'S SOME GOOD REASON. I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE FOR IT.
BECAUSE JUST LIKE ME, IT'S ANOTHER TOOL WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IN THE TOOLBOX.
HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? NOT REALLY. AND IT'S NOT A BAD QUESTION.
THE TURN LANE ON EMERSON IN FRONT OF I GUESS IT'S PINEAPPLE COVE.
THEY TURNED THAT CHURCH INTO PINEAPPLE COVE.
THAT WAS A BRAND NEW STRETCH OF ROAD.
AND AS I'VE HAD IT, WE HAD A PINEAPPLE.
I SAW THERE WERE. THAT WE KNOW.
STILL NOT HAPPY. NOT ADEQUATE.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FRANK ON THE UPDATE.
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NOT FOR ME.AND THEN WE HAD A SECOND ITEM FOR AGENDA REQUEST FOR FUTURE MEETING.
SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE STARTING IN THE MARCH MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHEN WE HAVE THE JOINT DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL? I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVING UTILITIES.
INC, MR. LITTLE SAID. OR THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOT A UTILITY.
OR WOULD NEED TO BE SHOWN SOME TYPE OF NEED FOR WHAT MR. LITTLE EXPLAINED THAT THE MAJORITY OF.
WHAT WAS GOING TO THE UTILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAS BEEN OVERTAKEN BY CONSULTANT.
UM. BRING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S A NEED.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT THE UTILITIES.
SO THERE WAS A UTILITIES ADVISORY BOARD THAT MR. LITTLE OVERSAW AND THERE WAS.
UM, AND SO THEY, THEY WEREN'T MEETING VERY FREQUENTLY.
AND, AND REALLY WHAT THE MEETINGS BECAME WAS JUST A REPORT, AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT.
THERE WAS NO ACTION ITEMS. AND SO MR. LITTLE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND ASKED FOR THE COMMITTEE TO BE DISSOLVED BECAUSE IN MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS PAST THE TYPE OF WORK THAT THAT BOARD WAS DOING.
HAS THAT WORK HAS NOW BEEN TAKEN ON BY THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS.
THAT STILL DOESN'T REQUIRE CONVERSATION OR APPROVALS OR RECOMMENDATION OR WHAT THE BOARD WASN'T.
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT THE WORK THAT WAS TAKEN OVER BY CONSULTANTS, THIS WORK NO LONGER, ALTHOUGH ALTHOUGH BEING HANDLED BY CONSULTANTS, IT NO LONGER REQUIRES RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL REVIEW.
I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S FOR MR. LITTLE TO SPEAK TO YOU, BUT HE MADE THAT PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL, I THINK FOR THAT TYPE OF TECHNICAL WORK THAT THAT ADVISORY BOARD WAS DOING.
I GUESS IF I'M CHECKING MY OWN PEOPLE'S WORK, I SHOULD CHECK OTHER PEOPLE'S.
RIGHT. BUT I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT IN THAT MY HUSBAND WAS ON THAT ADVISORY BOARD.
AND WHEN WE HAVE PALM BAY HAS STAFF THAT THEY'RE PAYING TO DO THE SAME THING, THE BOARD JUST SIMPLY BECAME A ONCE A QUARTER OR ONCE A MONTH PROGRESS REPORT OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING WITH THE PROJECTS. THE BOARD WASN'T TAKING ANY ACTION ON ANYTHING.
THAT'S OKAY. NO, SO IT'S LIKE I UNDERSTAND THAT PART, BUT I GUESS SO IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS, MAYBE IT NEEDS TO KIND OF BE DELIVERED A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE AS A AS A LAYMAN PERSON, IF YOU COME TO ME AND SAY, HEY, FACT CHECK WHEN THE CITY HAD THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES, BUT DON'T FACT CHECK WHEN I'M PAYING A CONSULTANT 300,000, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THE EMPLOYEES. THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY STAFF IS FACT CHECKING WHAT THE CONSULTANTS ARE DOING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ADVISORY BOARD WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION OF A WATER PLANT, EXTENSION OF FORCE MATE, LIKE THAT TYPE OF TECHNICAL WORK THAT AN ADVISORY BOARD IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION ON.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY. IT SINCE THERE IS NO CITIZEN OVERSIGHT OVER UTILITIES JUST BECAUSE CHRIS LITTLE DOES WANT TO HAVE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT IS JUST A BUNCH OF CRAP.
HAD MR. JONES. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO HAVE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT BECAUSE I FEEL I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT.
WE CAN IF WE DID ADOPT AND ASK THAT, THEY PUT THAT UNDER OURS.
SO IT MAY BE LIKE, HEY, HELP US UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION OF WHY YOU'RE GOING THIS WAY, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE DETAILS THAT ONCE HE STARTS TALKING, I'M GOING TO BE LIKE, HE MIGHT AS WELL BE SPEAKING GREEK, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF.
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I THINK FRANK DOES A GOOD JOB AT PRESENTING THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION IN THE WAY HE PRESENTS IT.I DON'T KNOW IF MR. LITTLE DOES, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THAT GROUP WAS.
BECAUSE I ALSO THINK WHO WAS GOING TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO US CAN ALSO DICTATE HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE VERSUS IF THEY'RE JUST COMING AND SAYING, HEY, IT'S A PROGRESS REPORT. AND IF THEY ACCEPTED THAT, IT'S A PROGRESS REPORT.
NOW, MIND YOU, I HAVE NOT LISTENED TO ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS AND I'VE NOT SEEN ANY OF THEM.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF CITIZEN OVERSIGHT WHERE WE CAN.
BUT I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH TO SEE LIKE HOW WAS THE INFORMATION BEING DELIVERED AND WAS IT BEING DELIVERED IN A WAY TO WHERE THERE WAS NO WAY OR NEED FOR OFFERING SUGGESTIONS OR JUST LIKE, YEP, SURE SOUNDS GOOD.
I'M NOT. I'M NOT COMPLETELY A.
SORRY. THAT JUST I WAS LIKE, WAIT.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DID HAD TO BE NO TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC RECORD.
AND NOT EVERY MEETING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
YES OR NO, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD.
I'M JUST SAYING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR GROUP IS.
THAT'S. WANT TO MAKE IT THAT WAY.
BUT I THINK THAT PARTICULAR BOARD, THEY HAD TECHNICAL PEOPLE.
STAFF DOESN'T FEEL THAT THEY NEED THAT TYPE OF.
I THINK THAT YOU'RE FALLING BACK TO THE RATEPAYERS OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM.
IF YOU DON'T WANT FORCE CONNECTIONS, THEN THE RESIDENTS CAN COME OUT AND SAY THEY DON'T WANT.
BY. THE CORRECT AVENUE FOR THAT.
RUNNING OUR UTILITY. I DON'T THINK I'M THINKING.
I AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU, ACTUALLY.
SO NOT SO MUCH A DEDICATED ADVISORY BOARD, BUT I CAN SEE WHY TOM WOULD SUGGEST THAT BEING PROBABLY PLACED UNDER ANOTHER BOARD JUST SO THAT THERE IS A A A PATH OR SOME TYPE OF OVERSIGHT.
BUT JUST NOT HAVING ANYTHING AT ALL, I THINK IS.
AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, THE TRUST.
AND A PART OF THAT IS HAVING THE ADVISORY BOARDS, EVEN IF NOBODY SHOWS UP, JUST THEIR THOUGHT OF SAYING, HEY, THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I WHO PAY THE ASSESSMENTS, NOT SOMEBODY THAT LEAVES FROM THEIR 9 TO 5 AND BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO MELBOURNE OR ROCKLEDGE OR WHATEVER.
SO EVEN IF THERE'S NOT A DEDICATED UTILITIES ADVISORY BOARD, SOMEBODY BECOMES RESPONSIBLE.
IF SOMETHING DOES COME UP AND IT BECOMES A SIMILAR TO WHAT DAVID SAID TO AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE.
I'M READY TO GO HOME. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING IT TO ME IN A WAY THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND AND ASK QUESTIONS LIKE FRANK DOES, THEN I THINK IT DOES BECOME VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I DO THINK.
YOUR LITTLE IS VERY GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES, BUT HIS DELIVERY METHOD IS VERY DIFFERENT.
LITTLE BIT. BUT TO THE LAYPERSON, PROBABLY NOT.
AND THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD HAD BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
BUT MR. LITTLE CAME AND MADE HIS CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE FORCED ASSESSMENTS, SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSIONS, WHATEVER IT IS, IF CITY COUNCIL SAYS, I WANT TO SEND THIS TO AN ADVISORY BOARD, THAT MAYBE THAT'S THE PATH AND MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST WAY.
THEM TO DIRECT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOARD TO TAKE IT ON.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS BOARD TO JUST SAY, WELL, YOU'VE DISSOLVED THIS.
NOW WE WANT TO TAKE ON THAT EXTRA TASK.
AFTER HE SAID, I DON'T HAVE A NEED.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ASK SINCE WE'LL HAVE THEM HERE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL LIKE Y WAS RESOLVED AND THEN LIKE, DO THEY FEEL THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO BRING IT UNDER EVEN IF IT'S.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S A CORNER THAT.
COMES AND DOES THIS THING. I MEAN, IT WAS HARD TO GET UTILITIES OUT HERE.
I DO THINK YOU NEED TO COME ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE, I MEAN, I THINK IF I ASK ANY DIRECTOR, QUITE FRANKLY, IF THEY WANT AN ADVISORY BOARD, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO SAY, NO, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO.
WE WERE ASKING HIM FOR A LONG TIME.
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SO I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY CONNECTED, BUT THAT I'M ON BOARD WITH LIKE FORCE CONNECTIONS OR SOMETHING IS HOW I FOUGHT THAT BATTLE.BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING LIKE LIKE DAVID JUST SAID, THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR KIND OF START THE START THE CONVERSATION AT THAT MEETING BECAUSE IT DEFINITELY.
WHY CAN'T WE AT LEAST MEET ONCE A YEAR? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? YEAH, AND.
MY HUSBAND GOT A PHONE CALL. NIGHT BEFORE, THE DAY AFTER IT HAPPENED.
IF WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT, THEN WE JUST DON'T COME NEXT MONTH.
BUT WORKING FOR A UTILITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD LIKE THAT.
THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHY HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NEEDED.
AND I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THEIR VOICE.
AND MAYBE AND MAYBE COMES TO THIS BOARD AS AN OFFSHOOT TOPIC.
AND THEN WE ADDRESS THAT WITH CITY COUNCIL.
HE DOESN'T SHOW UP TO OTHER COMMISSION MEETINGS.
ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA REQUEST MEETING.
WE COULD GET. LIKE THE 10,000 FOOT VIEW OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH MALABAR ROAD.
I KNOW THE. OXES THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED IN ORDER TO BRING THE ROAD BACK UP TO THE PROPER LEVEL.
NOW WE'VE GOT A PDA COMING UP ON MALABAR ROAD AND A QUICK UPDATE.
THE MALABAR ROAD P.D., WE DID GET THE ADDITIONAL MONEY.
THE TPO CAME UP WITH ALMOST NINE REMAINING, I THINK 2.9.
SO LIKE, WE HAVE $9.9 MILLION, BUT ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THEY WANT TO PROGRAM THE MONEY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 BECAUSE OF THE TIGHT TIME FRAME.
WITH PROGRAM AT 2023, YOU'VE GOT TO BE READY TO GO AND ADVERTISE.
HOWEVER, IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE STUDY.
WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND IT. EXCHANGE PROGRAM.
SO WE'LL HAVE AN ADVERTISEMENT AND HAVE IT READY TO GO FIRST OF NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT MEANS THE DESIGN PHASE.
$9.9 MILLION A WEEK NEXT YEAR.
ROAD DESIGN. WIDENING FROM ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY ALL THE WAY TO MINTON.
SECOND PROJECT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE DRAINAGE PIPE TO SOME AMOUNT OF OUR ROAD.
WE DID WE DID THE SEGMENT THAT WAS RIGHT BY EMERSON ABOUT 900 FEET.
IT WORKED OUT GREAT. WE HAD IT.
WE INSPECTED THE BUILD UP THE ASPHALT STOKE CRAPPY BECAUSE THE WHOLE ROADWAY.
GOALLESS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
THE SECOND PHASE. I'M READY TO GO.
THEY'RE ALMOST DONE FOR THE REMAINING SECTIONS OF THE PIPE.
BASICALLY THEN CAST THE REST OF THOSE TWO LARGE 72 INCH PIPES AND FILL IN ALL THE VOIDS.
ONCE THAT IS ALL DONE, CROWNE PLAZA IS DONE AND EVERYBODY'S DONE WORKING ON THAT ROAD.
I WOULD COME BACK AND RESURFACE AND REPAVE THE ENTIRE.
YES. SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
NOW CROWNE PLAZA, THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, IS GOING TO COME IN.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE TEARING APART THAT ROAD.
I PREFER THEM TEARING APART THE ROAD RIGHT NOW.
AND LET ME TEAR APART THE ROAD FOR THE SPIN CASTING.
AND MAYBE THE FOLLOWING YEAR FOR MAYBE 25.
PAVEMENT MEANT TO BE IN YEAR FIVE.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW.
OF. GOING TO CONTINUE THAT SAVING.
ITS ORIGINAL COST TO TEAR UP ALL THE PIPES AND BOXES OVER 10 TO 20 MILLION.
BECAUSE THEN WHEN YOU HAVE LAYMEN, PEOPLE THAT SAY, WAIT, SAY THAT AGAIN, SAY IT DIFFERENTLY.
FIGURED OUT, YEAH, ABOUT TECHNICAL STUFF.
SO IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN IT'S LIKE A MIXTURE OF PEOPLE AND NEW FACES, NEW IDEAS, NEW THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY RECORDED.
[01:20:05]
NO, I THINK. I THINK THIS IS RECORDED.YEAH. THOSE UTILITIES, THOSE UTILITY PEOPLE CAN TALK UTILITIES TO EACH OTHER ALL DAY LONG.
NO. WHEN WHEN THE CITY UNDERGOES A RATE STUDY.
THAT'S THE TIME TO BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO THAT BOARD.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A CONSTANT NEED.
SO MAYBE THAT MAYBE THAT IS THIS COMMITTEE.
I'M HEARING NO FUTURE AGENDA REQUESTS FOR.
HERE IN OCTOBER, RIGHT? YOU GOT IT. WE'D LOVE TO SEE HIM BACK.
I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAD A PRETTY LARGE.
APPROPRIATION REQUEST, RIGHT, FOR CONVERSION.
SO WHY DOESN'T HE COME TELL US ALL ABOUT THAT? YEP. A MARCH MEETING.
MATCH UP WITH OUR ROAD PROJECTS AND OUR PIPE PROJECTS.
I SEE THERE'S A NEXUS THERE, BUT I THINK AT LEAST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, COME BACK ONCE A YEAR.
IT, BUT DEFINITELY ONCE A YEAR.
I'LL TRY MY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BOARD TO PREPARE FOR.
SO YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY AGAIN.
YOU GUYS HAVE MORE POWER AT THE NEXT COUNCIL, AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH COUNCIL HERE.
YEAH. I'M ALSO BRINGING UP THE BUS.
YEAH. WHEN THEY CAME. TRANSIT.
TRANSIT? YEAH. OH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKING.
IS IT IMPOSSIBLE TO ZOOM IN? CAN WE CAN WE JUST PLEASE USE TECHNOLOGY? I KNOW THEY USED IT. I DON'T LITERALLY JUST SAW THEM.
ZOOM IN. I'M GOING TO BRING THAT UP, MR. JONES. I WANT TO SEE IF THEY WILL BE ABLE TO THEN, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE WERE IN THE CUPBOARD THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING IN PEOPLE AND I KNOW THE CIVIL MEETINGS WERE MR. FOSTER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'VE SENT PLENTY OF EMAILS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
I'M GOING TO ASK TO SEE IF THEY COULD DO AN ONLINE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO BE ONLINE BUT YOU'RE NOT HERE, YOU CAN GET ONLINE.
SPACE TECHNOLOGY TEAM ZOOM SHOULD BE DONE.
IF I HAVE A CHILD THAT'S AT FOOTBALL PRACTICE, IF I'M GOING TO PICK A FOOTBALL PRACTICE OVER ATTENDING A MEETING, QUITE FRANKLY, I'M GOING TO PRACTICE AND I WANT TO BE PRESENT FOR BOTH. SO BECAUSE IT'S NEXT MEETING WAS SUCH A.
MEETING FOR HAVING A JOINT MEETING.
I'M GOING TO BRING THAT UP, IF THEY WILL.
I APPRECIATE IT. AND SO I'M HEARING NOTHING ELSE.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 820.
GOOD JOB.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.