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MR. BALMER, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? SEE.
IN OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS IS PRESENT.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU.
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BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
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THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN ADHERING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.
THE FIRST CASE. C ONE 2023 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
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CP 42 2022 MR. ANDERSON. GOOD EVENING.BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 40, 20, 20, 30, 2022.
IT IS LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH AND WEST OF MECO ROAD IN THE VICINITY OF DOTY DRIVE.
THE LAND IN QUESTION IS APPROXIMATELY 1,435.36 ACRES.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM MITCHELL PARK VILLAGE DISTRICT AND RAISE ONE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL UNIT PER ACRE BREVARD COUNTY TO MIXED USE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND FOR THE ANALYSIS TONIGHT, THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL FUTURE AMENDMENTS GOING FORWARD.
IN ADDITION TO THESE ASPECTS, ASHTON PARK IS INTENDED TO BE A NEAR SELF-SUFFICIENT COMMUNITY IN RESPECT TO ITS INTERNALLY PROVIDED SERVICES AND AMENITIES, WHICH ARE SHOWN ON THE NEXT SLIDE AND THE MAP FOR YOU, WE CAN ALSO SHOW A BETTER PICTURE OF THIS ONCE THE DEVELOPER DOES COME UP AS WELL, SO THAT THEY CAN START TO ELABORATE FURTHER ON WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
SO WITH THAT STAFF DOES FIND THAT CASE.
CP 42 2022 MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR A LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, WHICH IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE APPROVAL OF A COMPATIBLE ZONING DISTRICT FOR ANY LAND WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS PROJECT AREA.
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A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY.MR. ANDERSON, IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE WILL THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU. JAKE WEISS, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST VALLEY BOULEVARD.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE JAMES DIX.
HE IS THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT.
GOOD EVENING, BOARD. THANK YOU.
I'LL JUST TAKE A QUICK MINUTE AND BE BRIEF, BUT I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I'M JAMES DICKS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DICKS DEVELOPMENTS.
WE HAVE PROJECTS FROM ESSENTIALLY HERE TO CITRUS COUNTY AND IN BETWEEN, FROM THE ORLANDO AREA.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY FIRST, I WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
IT'S A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THUS FAR, STAFF'S BEEN AMAZING.
SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU SOON.
GREAT. THANKS. SO, STEPH, AS ALWAYS, THAT A VERY THOROUGH REPORT.
SO I'LL JUST HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS TONIGHT.
AND EVERYTHING SOUTH OF US IS ACTUALLY THE BREVARD COUNTY LINE, THE SAINT SEBASTIAN PRESERVE.
AND EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH OF US IS BREVARD EELS LAND'S ENDANGERED LANDS THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.
THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY IN THE CITY.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 300 ACRES BEING ANNEXED IN.
THAT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AND ANOTHER 135 ACRES THAT IS NOT THAT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS ALREADY TO MAKE UP THE ENTIRE 1400 ACRE PROJECT. SO AS A STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIED, WE DO COMPLY WITH THE ELEMENTS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE. I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL THERE IN HERE.
EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT.
AND THIS PROJECT PROPERTY SURPRISINGLY HAS ALMOST ZERO WETLANDS, NO PROTECTED SPECIES.
A LOT OF IT'S A FORMER TREE FARM.
SO WE REALLY HAD JUST A WIDE OPEN PALETTE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THIS MASTER PLAN.
THE PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE THE EXTENSION OF THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE RELATIVELY NEW I-95 INTERCHANGE AND THE PARKWAY GOES WEST TO BABCOCK STREET.
SO THIS WOULD EXTEND IT EAST THROUGH EMERALD LAKES, SOUTH THROUGH A PROPERTY THAT'S ABOUT 350 ACRES TO THE NORTH, AND THEN COME RIGHT AT OUR NORTH NORTHWEST CORNER.
SO OUR INTENT IS NOT TO PUT ALL OUR TRAFFIC ON MICO ROAD.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A DOWNTOWN WHERE PALM BAY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ONE TODAY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG FEATURE OF OUR OVERALL PROJECT.
WE WOULD ALSO EXTEND CITY UTILITIES AS PART OF IT.
THE OVERALL PROJECT WOULD BE PART OF A CD, A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
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WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS FOR THE CITY IS THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS OR HIGHER, BUT IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY MAINTAINED BY THE CD.SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE CITY BURDEN OF HAVING TO MAINTAIN ALL THESE FACILITIES THAT WE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING AND THEN JUST RUNNING THROUGH THE OTHER ELEMENTS.
THE INTER-GOVERNMENT COORDINATION.
WE'VE HAD A MEETING WITH THE BOVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.
WE'VE SET ASIDE A 30 ACRE SCHOOL SITE, WHICH IS LARGER THAN THEY WOULD TYPICALLY NEED, AND WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT TO THEM AS PART OF IT AS WELL. AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO BRING A NEW SCHOOL DOWN HERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, WE HAVE, AGAIN, THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY, THE INTERCONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE SITE, ROADS THAT WOULD CONNECT TO MICO ROAD AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERCONNECTIVITY FOR VEHICLES, BUT WE DIDN'T STOP THERE.
A BIG, BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT IS THE RECREATIONAL ELEMENT.
WE HAVE OVER 90 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE RECREATION, OPEN SPACE AREAS.
WE HAVE A BIG CORRIDOR THROUGH HERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THEM TO PROVIDE A FIRE AND POLICE STATION.
UM, THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN THE CENTER HERE.
SOMETIMES THE SCALE OF THIS PROJECT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, MOSTLY ALONG THE MECO AREA AND A LITTLE BIT MICO ROAD, EXCUSE ME, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT DOWN HERE AT THE EASTERN END OF THE SITE AND THEN OF COURSE, THE LARGE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT FOR A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE AS FAR AS THE MIXED USE.
AND AS THE MARKET CHANGES, BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG TERM PROJECT, THIS IS A BIG, LONG TERM COMMITMENT FOR MR. DIX AND HIS TEAM.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE MARKET SO THE PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO SUCCEED WITH THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL USES HERE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE STAFF.
GOT A LOT OF SMILES AND NODDING HEADS AND THEY SEEM TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE.
THEY DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THE ANNEXATION FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS THE NEXT STEP BEFORE YOU.
SO TONIGHT WE ASK FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THEM.
IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THOSE.
REAL, REAL GENERAL QUESTION, JAKE.
I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF AN EDUCATED GUESS.
HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE BUILD OUT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE? YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OF COURSE, IS SO MARKET DRIVEN.
I DON'T THINK A LOT OF TRAFFIC WILL BE WILL BE ROUTED TO LOCAL ROADS IN THAT AREA AND ANYBODY WANTING TO GO NORTH, WHICH THE MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC I ASSUME WOULD WANT TO GO NORTH, THEY WOULD JUST HOP ON THE PARKWAY TO 95.
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IT WOULD REALLY RELIEVE A LOT OF THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC FROM.PROTON. IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE PROJECT.
THANK YOU. AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE PARKWAY.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH EMERALD LAKES.
WE'RE WORKING WITH 350 ACRE PROJECT I MENTIONED TO THE SOUTH OF EMERALD LAKES.
AND THIS PROJECT. PROJECT ALL TOGETHER WITH THE CITY.
THEY'VE MET AT EACH OTHER'S OFFICES.
WE'VE BEEN ON CALLS WITH THE CITY TO COORDINATE ALL OF THAT COMING THROUGH THERE.
SO IT'S REALLY A REGIONAL PROJECT FOR THE PARKWAY AND THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS WHOLE AREA.
THE COST TO EXTEND THE PARKWAY WOULD BE DONE AT THE DEVELOPER'S COST, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S THE BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS IS HOW DO WE WORK THROUGH THAT? BUT YES, THAT IS A.
I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS SUPER EXCITED.
I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS, JAKE, WAS MAYBE THE FIRST K THROUGH EIGHT.
AT THIS SITE. SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT TOO AS WELL.
YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BEFORE JAKE AND JAKE, YOU MENTIONED THE THE MIXED USE, THE SO WITH THE MIXED USE, IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR OR OR RESIDENTIAL.
YOU ARE CONSIDERED ANYTHING WITH RESIDENTIAL? WELL, FOR A RURAL RESIDENTIAL, I THINK YOU MEAN LIKE LESS DENSE RESIDENTIAL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO OR FOR MIXED USE? WE HAVE FROM THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT THE ABILITY TO HAVE DOWNSTAIRS COMMERCIAL AND UPSTAIRS RESIDENTIAL.
IS THAT YOU ALL EVEN CONSIDER? MAYBE. YOU KNOW, MY BIG THING IS ONE ACRE HOME SITES, FIVE ACRE HOME SITES.
YEAH. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ANY SITES OF THAT SIZE FOR THIS PROJECT.
NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION DOWN THE ROAD.
ABSOLUTELY. IF THE MARKET IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT, ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD BE.
AND YOU MENTIONED THE 40 ACRES OF THE DOWNTOWN.
I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY IT IS RATHER IMPRESSIVE FOR TO BE A SELF CONTAINMENT.
HAVE A PROJECT. SO DO THAT MEAN THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA THEN IS NOT OPEN TO THE REST OF PALM BAY? OR IS IT JUST OR THE RESIDENTS OF THAT GENERAL AREA? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY OPEN AND HOPING TO BRING A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE HERE DOWN THE PARKWAY.
YEAH. THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IS WITH THE RESIDENTS OF PALM ATTENDING.
AND THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION WE GET THE MOST OFTEN IS WHEN ARE YOU BRINGING THIS RESTAURANT AND WHEN ARE YOU? HOW CAN WE GET TO DOWNTOWN AREA? SO WE THINK WE'RE CHECKING A LOT OF BOXES THAT CURRENT RESIDENTS ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR.
AND OBVIOUSLY OUR RESIDENTS WITHIN THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
YEAH, THAT WAS SOMETHING STEPH BROUGHT UP, ACTUALLY.
YEAH. AND WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL THAT YOU SAID YOU ALREADY DONE WAS WINTER? WE WORKED ON WINTER SPRINGS UP IN ORLANDO AREA NORTH, BUT WE HAVE THREE OTHER TOWN CENTERS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THROUGH VARIOUS AVENUES OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN FIND ALL THOSE ON OUR WEBSITE, WHICH IS DISCUSS DEVELOPMENTS WITH ASK.COM.
AS YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AND WATER IS A BIG IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR US.
SO. I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FUNNEL MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC INWARD.
SO WHAT ARE THERE AT THIS POINT? AND I'M SURE IT'S KIND OF KIND OF EARLY TO ANTICIPATE WHAT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
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BUT CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT YOU THINK THAT MAY BE? CERTAINLY, NO QUESTION.THAT'S A 200 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
IT WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE A FOUR LANE ROAD.
SO YOUR NORMAL CITY, RIGHT OF WAY IS 50 FEET DOING 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS.
SO WE KNOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT.
PICO ROAD CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY IS OVER 100 FEET WIDE SO IT'S GOT A LOT OF ROOM AS WELL.
AGAIN, WE WANT TO DO BOULEVARDS, WE WANT TO DO NICE LANDSCAPING LIGHTING.
SO, YEAH, THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT, IS THE KIND OF INTERNAL CAPTURE, IF YOU WILL, OF TRAFFIC.
AND THEN THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY IS THE BIGGEST THING FOR THE TRAFFIC.
WELL QUESTIONS BUT I KNOW THEY GOT.
I KNOW THEY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
WHAT KIND OF ACCOMMODATIONS? THANK YOU, MR. WEISS, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
WHAT KIND OF ACCOMMODATIONS DO WE HAVE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO GET FROM YOUR NORTHERN CORNER CORRIDOR AND SO ON TO YOUR DOWNTOWN? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO CROSS MOCO ROAD? SO WHAT WE HAVE ALONG THE SOUTHERN AREA HERE.
SAFE WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET ACROSS.
WE WILL HAVE INTERSECTIONS WITH SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT THOSE MAIN POINTS, AND THEN WE WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC OTHERWISE.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THE BIG WIDE RIGHT OF WAYS IS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL.
MR.. DO YOU ANTICIPATE PERHAPS HAVING TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC ON WACO ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE THE MORE RESIDENTIAL, MORE PEDESTRIAN NATURE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE ROAD? I THINK I MEAN, THAT STRETCH IS IF IT'S GREATER THAN 45, I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE GO IS PROBABLY 60, 65, BUT I THINK IT'S A 45 TO A 50 POSTED.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'D HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN JUST FROM THE THE NATURE OF YOUR PROJECT THAT MAKE IT MORE OF A, HEY, YOU'RE PASSING THROUGH THAN A THOROUGHFARE THAT IT IS. YOU GUYS ARE HITTING ALL THE MARKS TONIGHT.
THIS IS GREAT. SO THESE ARE ALL ITEMS WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
MICO ROAD IS CURRENTLY A COUNTY ROAD, BUT THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT THEY KIND OF LIKE THOSE PORTIONS OF BABCOCK STREET THAT THE COUNTY WILL PROVIDE OR ASK THE CITY TO TAKE OVER THE ROADWAY. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT ALREADY.
IF YOU DO DRIVE THROUGH THERE TODAY, IT'S BIG OPEN FIELDS.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO SLOW THAT DOWN.
YEAH. IT'S KIND OF A BUMMER TO THINK ABOUT TAKING ON MORE ROADS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
REALISTICALLY, WHEN WOULD THIS BEGIN? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND DOWN THERE, MAYBE LACING PIPES, THINGS OF THAT SORT? WELL, THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND THEN THE CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL FOR THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT TO TAKE PROBABLY MOST OF THIS YEAR.
SO IF ALL GOES WELL, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS IN PLACE.
AND THEN THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS WITH THE PARKWAY EXTENSION UTILITY EXTENSION.
THE CITY, AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, BECAUSE I'VE MENTIONED IT IN MANY OTHER PROJECTS, IS HAS A $40 MILLION INVESTMENT TO BOTH THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSIONS OF BAYSIDE LAKES, AND THAT IS ANTICIPATION OF THIS PROJECT COMING WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THE MAINS AND THE ROADS THROUGH EMERALD LAKES AND WATERSTONE AND CYPRESS BAY.
THAT WAS IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS COMING AS WELL.
SO THIS HAS TRULY BEEN 15 YEARS PLUS IN THE PLANNING.
ONE LAST QUESTION, IF FOR MAY.
THANK YOU. SO FAR AS AND IF I'M JUMPING THE GUN STAFF LET ME KNOW.
BUT SO FAR AS LATER ON, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
AND IT REFERS TO THE MICCO PARK SPA, WHICH MY ACRONYMS I'M BAD TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY.
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SOMETHING OR OTHER. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT ORDINANCE? HEY, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS AGO IT WAS SOMETHING YOU WERE WORKING ON PROBABLY, AND THE CONFINES OF THAT BECAUSE I MYSELF AM NOT.AND I HOPE TO GET MORE DETAIL OF IT LATER ON IN THE BUSINESS ITEM, BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ARE AND WHAT IT IS AND IF THIS PROJECT FALLS IN EVERYTHING THAT IT SHOULD SO FAR AS YOU KNOW. SO ACTUALLY WE'RE CHANGING TO A MIXED USE FROM THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
IT WAS PUT ON THIS LAND AND IT DOESN'T FIT IN TODAY'S MARKET.
IT'S JUST IT'S JUST NOT A MARKETABLE ZONING IN OUR OPINION IN THIS TIME.
I'LL ASK STAFF MORE ABOUT THEIR STUFF LATER, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR ENTERTAINING ME THERE.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR QUESTIONS.
KEEP. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE REGARDING THIS CASE.
LAW IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? SEEING NONE ANYONE OPPOSED.
WRITTEN. SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. I HEARD 15 YEARS, 2005.
THAT'S 18 YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS.
THAT'S A LONG TIME TO BE WORKING ON A PROJECT.
THAT'S FROM WHEN WE STARTED MAKING OUR FIRST FIRST PLOTS COMING IN.
THAT'S HOW LONG BUILD BATTENS BEEN COMING AND VOICING, IN HIS OPINION, AT THIS STUFF.
THIS IS A CASE OF WHERE WE HAVE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
EXCUSE ME. THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ITEM NUMBER THREE SHOULD BE PASSED BY COUNCIL BEFORE ANY LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT IS EVEN CONSIDERED.
NUMBER TWO, THIS ITEM HAS DIRECT IMPACT ON SPAS.
NUMBER FOUR, IN THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOTE SPECIAL PROJECT AREA.
NUMBER FOUR HAS A DCA AND AN RC REPORT FROM THE STATE AND THE CITY AGREED WITH THAT REPORT AND VOTED AS SUCH, RESULTING IN THE CITY ORDINANCE 20 1062.
SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU KNOW THE OUTCOME OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT IS LIKE CLOSING THE DOOR TO THE BARN AFTER THE HORSE HAS GOT OUT.
ALL RIGHT. THAT LEADS ME TO THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THIS PORTION THAT THEY'RE TALKING RIGHT ALONG MICO ROAD.
SO IT IS THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY GOING TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THEY BUILD THIS, OR IS THIS JUST GOING TO BE AN ISLAND OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE THAT THAT GETS GETS PUT IN AND EVERYTHING'S RUNS OFF OF MECO ROAD? OR ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN I MEAN INFRASTRUCTURE, I'M TALKING THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AT NO EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF PALM BAY.
IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT MUST BE MET PRIOR TO THIS HAPPENING? BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN ROADS GO IN SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY TO THE WEST ALL THE WAY UP, BUT 200 FEET DID NOT GET DONE.
AND IT SAT THAT WAY FOR YEARS AND ENDED UP COMING OUT OF THE POCKET OF THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ENTIRE $9 MILLION BILL THAT WAS PUT ON THAT PORTION OF THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
OR IS IT GOING TO BE. NO, YOU JUST TRAVEL ON MITCHELL ROAD.
WELL, BABCOCK WAS COUNTY ROAD AND LOOK WHAT IT ENDED UP COSTING US AS THEY DID THIS DEVELOPMENT.
ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THAT ONE IS THE SCHOOLS.
SCHOOL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER IS DEDICATING LAND FOR THIS FUTURE SCHOOL.
AND I SAW THE LETTERS WITH SUE HORNE STATING THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING.
WANT TO TALK MORE, WHICH IS GREAT.
BUT THE LAND ITSELF DOES NOT BUILD SCHOOLS AND LAND ITSELF DOES NOT BUILD FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND IT DOES NOT BUILD POLICE DEPARTMENTS. THE LAND IS NOT THE OBJECTIVE, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO IF WE BUILD THESE, THAT COMES OUT OF GREAT EXPENSE.
WE'RE NOW TRYING TO BUILD A FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE IN PALM BAY.
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YOU GAVE ME A POSTAGE STAMP SIZE TO PUT IT ON.HOW ABOUT HELPING US GET THERE TO THE ACTUAL BUILD? I KNOW THAT'S ASKING A LOT FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SAYING, IT'S GREAT.
YOU GAVE ME LAND. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH IT.
I SEE GROWTH, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS QUITE READY TO BE THERE.
BUT IF THEY DON'T START, THEY'LL NEVER GET THERE.
OWN INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY WITHIN THE CITY.
AND THAT IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR POLICE OR FIRE.
THANK YOU. Q ANYONE ELSE, SIR? ROBERT STAYS 1796 WHEN BROOK DRIVE.
THANK YOU, BILL, FOR HIS DETAIL.
NOBODY DOES HOMEWORK LIKE BILL.
I'M JUST. I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM A 30,000.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BUILD, THEY'RE GONE AND YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT.
THIS REMINDS ME WHEN I MOVED TO COLORADO IN 77.
BUT. BUILDING MAY START IN 2024, 15 YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE A YEAR.
THAT'S 2040. HOW MANY OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND IN 2040? MAN, THAT'S A HELL OF A LONG TIME.
YOU'RE WILLING TO SEE ALL CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THAT THROUGH THROUGH ALL OF THESE YEARS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THAT GOING TO IMPACT? I BACK TO THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE.
WELL, WHAT USED TO BE CALLED A MAJORS GOLF COURSE.
AND I WENT WALKING ON THERE THE OTHER DAY RIDING MY BIKE.
PEOPLE ARE WALKING THEIR DOGS.
PEOPLE ARE WEARING DIRT BIKES.
YEAH, PEOPLE FLYING THROUGH THERE.
I MEAN, YOU JUST START, OF COURSE, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU'VE ALREADY MADE A DECISION.
I REALLY AM. I KNOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP PALM BAY AND GET IT AWAY FROM A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
I GET THAT. I KNOW WE WANT TO HAVE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT.
I'M JUST NOT I HATE TO BE ANYWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS CONSTRUCTION GOES ON FOR 15 YEARS.
WOULD YOU? YOU KNOW, REALLY, I'M JUST NOT GETTING THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, WHO'S GOING TO PICK UP THE PRICE OF THE ROAD FROM 95 TO MIKA, WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN 15 YEARS.
THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GONE.
YOU'D BE TALKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
ARE YOU GOING TO RESOLVE THAT? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RESOLVE ALL THIS OPEN SPACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY? PEOPLE HAVE DIRT BIKES AND FOUR BY FOURS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY.
THEY'RE DOING IT ON THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE RIGHT NOW.
SO LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 15 YEARS? WHAT'S THAT GOING TO TAKE? AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU REALLY KEEP AN OPEN MIND WHEN SOMEBODY IS MAKING A DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY SOME.
NEVER MIND. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I'VE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE COMPOUND IS.
AND THIS IS JUST GIVING ME EERIE FEELINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START DEVELOPING AND THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF EMPTY ROADS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GO PLAY ON AND GET HURT AND JUST TURN INTO THE WILD WEST LIKE THE COMPOUND IS RIGHT NOW.
TWO MURDERS THAT HAPPENED ON CHRISTMAS.
IS THIS GOING TO TURN INTO THAT BEFORE YOU PUT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE STATION? WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT LONG RUN? IS IT GOING TO BE THE CITY? OR IS IT GOING TO BE YOUNGER RESIDENTS STILL STANDING HERE IN 15 YEARS WHEN THEY DECIDE TO MAYBE PUT IN ALL THE REST OF THE UTILITIES? THEY'RE TURNING 6% OF THE 1400 ACRES THAT IS CURRENTLY GREEN SPACE INTO GREEN SPACE.
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DOESN'T NECESSARILY FLOW WITH THE REST OF THE AREA THAT'S DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW.THERE ARE HOUSES THAT ARE ABOUT ACRES DIFFERENCE, TWO AND A HALF ACRE PLOTS.
AS THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN SAID.
IF THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY DOESN'T FINISH GETTING PUT IN.
HOW IS. THIS PLAN DIFFERENT FROM EMERALD LAKES, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PLANNED FOR THE END OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY? THERE'S A DOWNTOWN AREA PLANNED FOR THERE.
WHY DO WE NEED TWO OF THEM? WHEN ELSE? AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? DON'T MIND TO GO FIRST.
MA'AM? SIR? CHIEF. SURE THIS WON'T BE THE LAST TIME.
GREAT OBJECTIONS FROM EVERYONE.
I ACTUALLY TAKE ALL THOSE AND MENTALLY WILL PROCESS THOSE.
AND WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT ANYBODY SAYS.
I CAN ANSWER QUITE A FEW OF THOSE.
I DIDN'T TAKE QUITE AS GOOD MENTAL NOTES, BUT I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, THE ANSWER ON HOW THAT STUFF GETS PAID FOR, LET'S BREAK THAT OUT INSTEAD OF LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PARKWAY FOR A SECOND. PARKWAY IS GETTING BUILT.
I WANT TO DO IT. WHATEVER THE PARKWAY IS GETTING BUILT.
SO THAT'S GETTING SOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE I'M INVOLVED, WHICH MEANS I'M GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARKWAY, THE COST OF THAT PARKWAY, THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS, THE TRIPARTITE AGREEMENTS, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE TRANSFER, THE TIRE STUDIES, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING.
THE SECOND THING IS EVERYTHING THAT GOES INSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY.
FIRST THING I DO IS LOCK EVERYTHING DOWN.
PEOPLE ARE NOT ON MY PROPERTY.
IF ANYBODY'S RIDING MOTORCYCLES ON, IT'S ME.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
MY FAMILY'S BEEN HERE FOR 90 YEARS.
MY EIGHTH GENERATION SON IS HERE TONIGHT.
HE'S NOT GOING HERE. HE WORKS FULL TIME WITH ME AFTER GRADUATING FROM UCF TO BE IN THIS BUSINESS.
IF YOU EVER DRIVE BY ANY OF MY PROJECTS, YOU'LL SEE EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN WE SAY 15 YEARS, WE'RE BUILDING A CITY PART OF PALM BAY.
THIS ISN'T A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A COMMUNITY WITH 200 HOMES.
I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WITH 200 HOMES AND 120 ACRE GOLF COURSE.
WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING IF PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BUY LOTS.
RIGHT. AND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A COMPOUND ISSUE? NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A COMPOUND ISSUE, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT SOLVED IS WE DO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, RIGHT? COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS WILL COME IN.
IT'S BASICALLY A MUNICIPALITY.
WE RAISED BONDS TO DO ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST SIT IN ROADS, COMPOUNDS, A DIFFERENT STORY, RIGHT? IT'S SITTING THERE OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
WE'RE INVESTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BRING UTILITIES INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND AS FAR AS MCL ROAD AND ANY OF THOSE OTHER ROADS THAT GO LIKE THAT, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS DICTATED BY TIA'S DOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH YOUR BOARD, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WITH STAFF, THERE'S SPECIFIC CODE AS TO TURNING LANES, DE LANES, SIDEWALKS, HOW WIDE THEY ARE, HOW MANY ARE THEY ARE.
MOST OF MY COMMUNITIES ARE GOLF CART FRIENDLY.
THEY HAVE MULTI PURPOSE TRAILS.
I DON'T LIKE FOUR FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS.
SO WE'VE THOUGHT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.
AND I'M NOT DISCOUNTING ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY BRINGS UP HERE, AND I'LL HEAR A LOT MORE OF THAT.
BUT I MEAN, WE WORK HARD, TOO, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
AND I THINK THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I THINK HE HIT ALL THE POINTS THAT I THAT I WROTE DOWN.
VIERA JUST GOT AWARDED THE TOP EIGHT MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
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ROUSING SUCCESS.THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT IS THAT COMMITMENT, THAT TYPE OF TIME TO IT.
I WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, BASIC IDEA, TEN YEARS, 15 YEARS, WE DON'T KNOW.
IT'S MARKET DRIVEN, BUT THIS PROJECT IS YEARS IN THE MAKING TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF EXTENDING THE UTILITIES AND THE PARKWAY AND WORKING WITH THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO PAY FOR ALL OF THAT TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.
THIS PROJECT WON'T START UNLESS THAT PARKWAY IS COMING AND THE UTILITIES ARE COMING.
IT WON'T START, IT WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT CAN MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO WE'RE AT THE VERY INFANCY FIRST STEP TONIGHT.
IF YOU ARE WILLING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THE COUNCIL WILL MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF I MAY.
THANK YOU. CAN CAN WE GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE THE MIKKO PARK VILLAGE SPECIAL PROJECT AREA AND HOW IT RELATES TO THIS CASE AND HOW IT DOESN'T AND THINGS OF THIS SORT.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO FIRST OFF, THE SPECIAL PLANNING AREAS, THE SPA IS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLUDED TO TONIGHT ARE PART AND PARCEL OF ONE OF OUR NEXT CASES, WHICH IS THE POTENTIAL ADOPTION OF A NEW FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
THE SPECIAL PLANNING AREAS ARE A OVERARCHING.
TOPICAL NAME FOR SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE CITY THAT HAD ENTITLEMENTS ENTITLED TO THEM AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LEVEL, WHICH IS A VERY UNUSUAL TRAIT TO HAVE HAPPEN BECAUSE ANY SORT OF.
EFFORT TO AMEND OR CHANGE THOSE PARAMETERS THEN HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY STATE AGENCIES THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT FASHION, WHICH IS A LOT LONGER PROCESS AND MORE DUBIOUS RESULTING.
THE LACKLUSTER NATURE OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE THIS COME TO FRUITION COMES FROM IT BEING IMBEDDED INSIDE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TO GET THAT TO COME TO FRUITION.
SO A LOT OF THIS ENDS UP BEING CIRCULATED MUCH MORE AT THE ZONING LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY REGULATE THE PROPERTIES THROUGH THE REGULATORY TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WHERE WE GIVE THEM MORE. SO THE ENTITLEMENT LEVELS OF BROAD SCALE, SUCH AS INTENSITY AND DENSITY AT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LEVEL WITH IN THIS CASE TO SOLVE A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN THE AREA IN TERMS OF AGREEMENTS WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT YOU WOULD BE RECOMMENDING AS A CONDITION TONIGHT.
SAID. SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND THIS CHANGE ENDS UP GOING FORWARD, WILL IT RENDER THAT SPECIFIC SPECIAL PROJECT AREA MOOT? BECAUSE NONE OF THE LAND THAT'S WITHIN IT WILL BE PARK DISTRICT LANDS.
IT WILL ALL BE MIXED USE LAND WITHIN THE CITY.
OKAY, SO EVERYTHING UNDER THIS CURRENT APPLICATION, JUST TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE THE MICCO PARK VILLAGE DISTRICT DOES EXTEND BEYOND THIS AND WE HAVE ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR THAT IN THE MIDDLE CURRENTLY THAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD, I BELIEVE, MARCH.
BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, YES, THAT THIS WILL REPEAL ALL OF THAT ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT ORDINANCE WAS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THAT DISTRICT AT THE TIME PERIOD, WHICH IS A VERY LOW DENSITY, RELATIVELY SPRAWLED OUT COMMUNITY WITH A LOW LEVEL OF SERVICES PROVIDED FOR IT.
RATHER, IT WAS ABOUT THREE UNITS PER ACRE OVER THE SAME 1400.
THIS WILL BE NORMAL MIXED USE LAND WITHIN THE CITY.
BUT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEIR LAND IS MIXED USE LAND IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
IT'S NOT SPECIAL MIXED USE, CORRECT? AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WILL BE JUST THE MIXED USE DESIGNATION OF FUTURE LAND USE THERE.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION.OR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
SO MOTION TO APPROVE CP 4020 22.
OKAY. BY MR. WEINBERG SECOND BY MR. BOEREMA OWN FAVOR.
IT IS A CITYWIDE AMENDMENT, AND THE AMENDED SECTION IS TO PALM BAY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.
TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
CHAPTER 185 GENERAL PROVISIONS SECTION ONE 85.006.
TO ADD LANGUAGE ON ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
SO IT'S TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY LEVEL.
WE IDENTIFIED THAT MOBILE HOME WAS MOST CONGRUENT WITH THIS.
SO WITH THAT, THE PURPOSE IS TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR AND CLEAR DEFINITION AND INTENT TO BUILD ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN THE JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS OF THE CITY AND TO ADD MORE LANGUAGE FOR CLARITY PURPOSES TO THE LAND USE AND ZONING REGULATIONS ON ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT APPLICATIONS.
WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MR. ANDERSON, WHAT IS THE CONTEXT THAT CAME UP THAT DISPLAYED THIS ISSUE AND AND LED TO US KIND OF FIGURING OUT THAT THERE'S A HOLE AND THAT WE NEED TO FILL IT.
I DO NOT KNOW THE ENTIRE PARAMETER, SO I'LL DEFER TO ALEX.
IT DOES BELIEVE. I BELIEVE SHE DOES KNOW FROM HER RESPONSE.
SO IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT IF YOU HAD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.
S FILING STRUCTURE FOR HAVING TO PAY.
IS THERE ANY EXAMPLE OF A UNIT THAT WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY THAT MONEY THAT SOMEONE WOULD BUILD ON THEIR PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF A SINGLE FAMILY, OBVIOUSLY GETTING SINGLE FAMILY IMPACT FEES.
AT THIS POINT, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, WE HAVE NOW SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY AND MOBILE HOME.
AND WITH THE MOBILE HOME THAT WOULD BE OVERSHADOWING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS WELL.
AND THEN COMMERCIAL IMPACT FEES, OF COURSE, BUT THAT'S SEPARATE INDUSTRIAL.
I'M GONNA CALL IT A NORMAL PALM BAY LOT.
RATE YOUR LITTLE QUARTER ACRE, WHATEVER DEALS OR MORE PLATTED NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CAN PUT UP AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, BUT THEIR MOTHER IN LAW IN THERE THEY CAN RUN PLUMBING TO IT, ELECTRIC TO IT, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND ALL THIS, SOMEONE CAN LIVE IN THERE AND THERE WON'T BE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES TO THAT PROPERTY.
THERE WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL MOBILE HOME IMPACT FEE FOR THE ERECTION OF IT.
UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE A GLORIFIED SHED IS NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF LOGIC THAT COMES HERE.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME THROUGH THAT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. FORCE MISCHIEF.
SO WILL THIS BE LIMITED TO CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS? CERTAIN AREAS OF BAY.
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BUT WE WE MAINTAIN THAT THAT PRIORITY SO FAR BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING TO LOOK INTO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN THE FUTURE FURTHER.THE CURRENT RESIDENCE WAS JUST TO DETER.
WELL, NOW I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO LIVE NEXT TO THEM NECESSARILY.
SORRY IF THAT'S THAT'S A QUESTION.
WHO LIVES IN THEM. I WE HAVE NOT REGULATED THAT SO SO WE WILL NOT SEE THIS BECOMING A.
SOMEWHAT LIKE LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE BUILDING GOING ON.
SO WE'RE DOING WE DON'T FORESEE THIS BECOMING A MORE OF A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE WITH PEOPLE MAKING THAT DECISION NOW TO JUST PUT UP AN ACCESSORY BUILDING NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE, NEXT TO THEIR GARAGE SO THAT THE THE 18 YEAR OLD THAT CAN'T GET ALONG IN THE HOUSE NOW HAS TO BE PUT OUTSIDE.
SURE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO ALL THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WERE IN PLACE, WHICH WOULD TELL YOU HOW YOU HAVE TO DESIGN IT, WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE, WHETHER YOU CAN FIT IT ON YOUR PROPERTY, ALL OF THAT IS STILL IN PLACE ALREADY.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADOPT THE CORRECT FEE TO GO FORWARD, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE REVISITING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, ESPECIALLY AFTER OUR IF WE DO ADOPT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS LOOKING INTO STATUTORY RATIONALE FOR WHY WE MIGHT NEED TO ALTER THIS CODE.
SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ADOPTING A FEE.
FIVE UNDER ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
BE NO LESS THAN 200 SQUARE FEET OF AIR CONDITIONED AND NO MORE 800 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
YES. SO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NECESSARILY ADDRESSED.
WE ARE, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, LOOKING TO ADOPT THINGS IN THE FUTURE AND RECOGNIZE THAT OTHER PROPERTIES SUCH AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL MAY BENEFIT FOR FROM HAVING LARGER ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. WE'RE ACTUALLY REVISITING THAT IN A DIFFERENT PORTION OF OUR CODE THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WHICH WAS ABOUT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON PROPERTIES RELATED TO BARNS AND SO FORTH.
SO WITH THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE STAFF'S AGENDA.
IF NOT COMING IN MARCH, IT WILL BE BY APRIL.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, YOU'LL SEE REGULATIONS CURRENTLY IN PLACE THERE FOR THEM REQUIRING ONE SPACE.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF LOWERING THESE FEES FROM.
REGULAR STRUCTURE TO A MOBILE HOME.
I UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I CAN LOOK IT UP AND GET BACK TO YOU IN A FEW MOMENTS, THOUGH, IF THAT IS BENEFICIAL.
LOWERING. THE REASONING BEHIND LOWERING THEM IS BECAUSE THE OVERALL IMPACT OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS NOT GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY IN CONCERT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. FOR INSTANCE, AS WE HAD MENTIONED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE 2 TO 800 SQUARE FEET IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
AT MINIMUM, THROUGH MOST OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS IS 1200.
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COMFORT ENOUGH FOR CITY MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO IDENTIFY MOBILE HOMES TO BE MORE OF AN ACCEPTABLE CHARGE.IT WAS FELT THAT A SINGLE FAMILY CHARGE WAS JUST AN OVERCHARGE.
THE ACCESSORY BUILDING IS GOING TO BE.
SO IT IS A REGULATED HOW MANY SQUARE FEET.
RIGHT. OF COURSE. SO THAT'S WHY THERE IS A SQUARE FOOTAGE ORIGINALLY IN PLACE.
SO THERE'S A WAY TO AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THERE'S A DIFFERENT PORTION OF OUR CODE WE'RE LOOKING AT TO ADJUST FOR THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS FOR A SECTION OF ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO IF YOU HAD TWO LOTS, YOU CAN GO TO THE 800 SQUARE FEET.
I WOULD IMAGINE. A SIZE OF TWO LOTS.
YEAH. IT JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS ARE FOR.
ALL RIGHT. OR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? BRATTON. BEAVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I WASN'T GOING TO TALK ON THIS ONE, BUT IT'S A PRESENTATION WAS BEING PRESENTED.
IT GENERATED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THIS ONE WAS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
LIKE A PERSON LIKE MYSELF, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF HERE.
BECAUSE AT 70 YEARS OLD, I'M EVENTUALLY THINKING THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE ONE OF MY GRANDKIDS LIVING ON THE FARM WITH ME, AND I DON'T WANT THEM IN THE BEDROOM WITH MY WIFE AND I. ALL RIGHT.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THE BARN TOOL SHED AND SO FORTH, THOSE WILL BE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
SO THOSE WOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS JUST ALLOWED TO BE 208 HUNDRED.
BUT YOU CAN HAVE UP TO I BELIEVE IT IS HALF.
AND THEN PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK FOR YOU HALF THE SIZE.
SEEING NONE OR IS NOW CLOSED CASES BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD? OR DO I HAVE A MOTION? CHAIR I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE RT OR RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.
CASE RT 16 2023 PLEASE BY MR. OLSZEWSKI AND BY MR. WEINBERG ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
GOOD EVENING. I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE AND TELL YOU HOW EXCITED WE ARE TO LOOK OVER OUR NEW PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME NOW, SO WE'RE EXCITED THIS EVENING TO ACTUALLY HAVE OUR CONSULTANT CHRIS DOHERTY PRESENT IT TO YOU AND AND HE WILL BE UP HERE IN JUST A SECOND TO GO OVER ALL OF THE POINTS THAT STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD ALONG WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKSHOPS TO BRING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
WONDERFUL. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.
READY TO GO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK AGAIN.
THIS IS A A GREAT CULMINATION OF THE VISIONING THAT WE DID AND THAT STARTED WITH THE EAR BASED AMENDMENTS BACK IN 2020 AND 2021.
SO THIS IS THIS IS A REMARKABLE.
A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING.
WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THE THE SPA CATEGORY THAT WAS CREATED.
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SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO MY PRESENTATION AGAIN.YOU'LL YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO SAMMI.
DON'T WORRY. EVERYTHING'S FINE WITH THEM.
WE ACQUIRED THE PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PRACTICE AT SAMMY.
SO WE ARE NOW IN SPIRE PLACE MAKING COLLECTIVE SAVE SAME TEAM, JUST A DIFFERENT NAME ABOVE THE DOOR.
SO I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
SO AS I MENTIONED, LET ME SEE HERE.
ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE SCOPE, THE THE ELEMENTS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BRIEF OVERVIEW OF ALL THE WONDERFUL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE WE'VE DONE TO DATE.
AS I MENTIONED, SAME GREAT TEAM.
AS I ALLUDED TO BEFORE, THIS ALL STARTED WITH THE EAR BASED AMENDMENTS.
SO WE HAD TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE COMP PLAN TO ADDRESS STATUTORY CHANGES OVER THE YEARS SO THAT IT HAD BEEN SOMEWHAT NEGLECTED BY ABOUT TEN YEARS OR SO.
OF COURSE, THEY YOU KNOW, THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH VISIONING.
AND UNDER THE YEAR BASED PROCESS, YOU DON'T REALLY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS, WHICH IS WHY WE DID IT BEFORE OUR YEAR DEADLINE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMING ISSUE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO TO AVOID HAVING THAT 12 MONTHS DEADLINE TO TO DO VISIONING AND A FULL COMP PLAN UPDATE.
SO YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T HAVE A STRIPE THROUGH AN UNDERLINED VERSION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT IS BECAUSE IF WE MOVE SO MANY OF THE POLICIES AND CHANGED A LOT OF THE OBJECTIVES, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A REPEAL AND REPLACE KIND OF DEAL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOU'RE SEEING KIND OF THIS BRAND NEW ELEMENT.
BUT AGAIN, WE KEPT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD, AND THE SPA IS KIND OF A REFLECTION OF THAT.
AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
SO THIS DIAGRAM SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO YOU FOLKS.
THIS WAS PART OF THE VISIONING.
TOOK US ABOUT 12 MONTHS TO GET THROUGH A FULL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND THEN DEVELOP THESE CATEGORIES, THESE THEMES THAT POPPED UP DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.
SO STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAD, PLACEMAKING HOUSING, CITY INVESTMENTS, ADVANCING EQUITY AND ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY, THOSE WERE THOSE BIG, BROAD CATEGORIES.
NOW, NOT EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH THESE CATEGORIES OR THE STRATEGIES THAT FELL UNDERNEATH THOSE CATEGORIES WERE MEANT TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE COMP PLAN NECESSARILY, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE.
SO HERE YOU GO. THIS THIS WAS PART OF THAT BROCHURE THAT CAME WITH YOUR VISION PLAN.
ESSENTIALLY, THE VISIONING WAS THE KICKOFF TO THE FULL COMP PLAN UPDATE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, NOT EVERYTHING IS BEING IMPLEMENTED IN THE PLAN, BUT MOST THINGS ARE.
OK. SO WHAT'S THE SCOPE? AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT HAD BEEN MANY, MANY YEARS ACTUALLY.
WAS IT 2001 TO 2011? THAT WAS THE PLANNING HORIZON BEFORE WE WE ADJUSTED THE PLAN BASED ON THE EOR BASED AMENDMENTS AND THEN WENT IN AND HAD TO REALLY CLEAN UP ALL THE DATA AND ANALYSIS, UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CITY CITY IS AT TODAY WITH ALL THE PLANNING OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES, AND THEN MAKE SURE MAKE SURE WE PLAN FOR THE APPROPRIATE POPULATION DEMAND AND THEN IMPLEMENT THAT VISION.
AS I MENTIONED, ALL BY ALL, WHILE WE'RE MAKING SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH STATUTES AND FOCUSING ON IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FOLKS HERE IN PALM BAY, AS WELL AS PROVIDING THE FOUNDATION FOR THE LDC, WHICH WILL BE THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROCESS.
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OK YOUR COMP PLAN ELEMENTS SEEING THESE NUMEROUS TIMES.WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE TONIGHT.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER ELEMENTS.
THOSE ARE FORTHCOMING AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED.
SO JUST A QUICK, BRIEF OVERVIEW.
WE HAD MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.
WE SHOW FIVE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS UP THERE.
IF IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CONTENT THAT WE ADDRESSED AT EACH ONE OF THOSE WORKSHOPS.
SO WE RECEIVED A LOT OF WONDERFUL INPUT ON BOTH OF THOSE WEBSITES AND ARE STILL I THINK WE'RE STILL GETTING INPUT TODAY.
HERE ARE THE NUMBERS. THIS IS JUST FOR THE COMP PLAN UPDATE WEBSITE.
SO NEARLY 9000 VISITS TO THE SITE, 118 SURVEY RESPONSES, 167 DOWNLOADS.
OTHER ITEMS WORKSHOP ATTENDEES 314 193 WEBSITE COMMENTS.
THIS IS JUST THE WEBSITE ALONE.
WE HAVE THE WORKSHOPS, THE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS.
THIS IS REALLY A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE POSSIBLY COULD AND ENGAGE WITH AS MANY FOLKS THAT WE COULD AS WELL. OKAY.
THIS IS A COLLAGE OF PICTURES OF THE ENGAGEMENTS.
I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL FOLKS HERE IN THE ROOM THAT PARTICIPATED IN A LOT OF THOSE.
SO SUSTAINABILITY COMPATIBILITY ANNEXATIONS CHARACTER CENTERS OF ACTIVITY, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, POPULATION GROWTH.
SO. WHAT YOU'LL SEE TODAY IN THE FUTURE.
LAND USE ELEMENTS GOING TO LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY.
THE CLARITY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT THAT MADE SURE THE TEXT WAS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT.
HE WE HAD TO MAKE REVISIONS NOT ONLY TO THE TEXT OF THE FLU, BUT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE REVISED FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE NEW PLANNING INITIATIVES AND THEN POLICIES ADDRESSING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND REFINEMENTS TO THAT.
SO AGAIN, I'LL BE A LITTLE REDUNDANT HERE.
OUTDATED AND CONFLICTING LANGUAGE.
I GUESS, EASY TO DIGEST FORMAT.
THE NUMBERING SYSTEM WAS A BIT OF A MESS.
YOU KNOW, IT IT DIDN'T LINE UP FOR WHATEVER REASON.
I THINK IT WAS OVER YEARS OF INCREMENTAL AMENDMENTS, JUST THE NUMBERING SYSTEM GOT THROWN OFF.
PUTTING IT INTO A EASY TO READ TABLE.
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THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGIES HERE.SO ONE, YOU CAN SEE THE PURPOSE OF THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, THOSE TYPICAL USES THAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, AND THEN THE DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES.
TEXT IN YOUR PLAN EITHER IT WASN'T REAL CLEAR OR IT WAS IT DIDN'T REALLY GIVE US A CLEAR INDICATION OF WHAT THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY RUNS WAS.
EXCUSE ME. GETTING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD AND I'LL COME BACK TO THIS.
SO WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT WERE THESE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT WERE WERE NOT CATEGORIES, THEY WERE DEVELOPMENTS. AND SO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IS WHAT WE CREATED THE SPECIAL PLANNING AREAS AS.
SO WE DIDN'T TAKE AWAY ANY OF THE ENTITLEMENTS.
AND TO ADDRESS THE I GUESS THE THE CHICKEN AND EGG ISSUE WITH MICCO PARK VILLAGE TONIGHT, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THE TEXT TODAY.
WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PLAN TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT AMENDMENT.
LET'S SEE WHERE THE MIXED USE APPLICATION, SEE WHERE THAT GOES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.
AS AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE TEXT AMENDMENTS WITH STAFF.
NO. REAL CHANGES TO THE COLOR.
AGAIN, IT'S WHAT'S IN THE LEGEND.
SO NEW CATEGORY NAMES FOR SOME OF THOSE.
AND NEW DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES.
EXCUSE ME. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE ARE NOT ON THE MAP.
SO THOSE DON'T THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN APPLIED YET.
THESE ARE THE NEW MIXED USE CATEGORIES THAT ARE JUST MENTIONED.
SO NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE TYPE USES AND BUILDING HEIGHTS.
SO MAYBE THAT'S THE THE 4 TO 5 STORIES AND THEN URBAN MIXED USE.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THOSE ACTIVITY CENTERS LIKE IT WAS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING AT THE MITCHELL PARK VILLAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, LOOKING TO CREATE MORE ACTIVITY IN THIS URBAN MIXED USE.
AND AGAIN, ALL THIS CAME UP DURING THE VISIONING.
SO A NEED FOR AN ACTIVITY CENTER, WHETHER IT BE OUT AT BAYFRONT CRA AREA OR DOWN AT THE EMERALD LAKES VILLAGE PARK VILLAGE AREA AS WELL.
OK. SO SOME OF THE NEW TERMINOLOGY THAT YOU'LL SEE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE NEW PLANNING INITIATIVES DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE BAYFRONT AREA AS WELL AS THE COMPOUND.
THESE ARE THINGS, AGAIN, THAT CAME UP MULTIPLE TIMES.
NOW THE BAYFRONT CRA, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THAT'S GOING TO SUNSET.
REALLY, IT'S FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IT'S KIND OF GONE AWAY.
THEY'RE REALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.
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WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THERE.YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T GOING TO SOLVE THE COMPOUND ISSUES THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND IT NEEDS SPECIAL ATTENTION.
SO WE FELT STRONGLY ABOUT INCLUDING THAT IN THE IN THE PLAN AND THEN PROVIDING FOR A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO YOUR CULTURAL HERITAGE.
AND PRESERVATION REALLY ISN'T MUCH IN THE PLAN TODAY TO EVEN ADDRESS THAT.
AGAIN, A REALLY BIG INITIATIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC INDUSTRY CLUSTERS, COORDINATION WITH ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
CREATING AN INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. PROTECTING INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE CITY.
YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL HERE.
AND THEN CREATING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WE CAN'T REALLY DO ALL OF THIS WITHOUT HAVING A PLAN AND HAVING SOMEBODY PUSHING THAT PLAN AND TAKING CARE OF THE DAY TO DAY ASPECTS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH YOUR CITY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF JUST CARRYING THAT FORWARD.
SO THIS WAS AGAIN ANOTHER ISSUE THAT AROSE DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.
HERE WE'RE JUST BRINGING TO LIGHT IDEAS FOR CREATING CRITERIA.
WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING LAND USES.
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, MAKING SURE IT'S AN INCLUSIVE PROCESS, AND THEN LOOKING AT A STUDY TO ELIMINATE BARRIERS TO ACCESSING FRESH FOODS.
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFINEMENTS FOR PWDS.
AT A RELIANCE ON PADS HERE IN THE CITY.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS OVER TIME, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE GETS STALE.
SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE FOR ANY REAL PREDICTABILITY FOR ANYBODY HERE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PAD SAYS? YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THAT ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE IN YOUR HAND TO TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PROVIDE FOR.
SO. WHAT WE DID HERE IS CREATE MORE, MORE STRINGENT CRITERIA TO TO FORCE INNOVATION, SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT. AND A LOT OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT IS FORCING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE A HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCT FOR PALM BAY THAT'S PART OF THE PLACEMAKING.
SO TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE GDC REMNANTS THAT WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH TODAY, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN TONIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO MOVE BEYOND THAT BY FORCING DEVELOPMENT TO PAY THEIR OWN OWN WAY AND AND PROVIDE A HIGHER QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO COMPATIBILITY ADDRESSING THAT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
EXCUSE ME. AND THEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE INNOVATIONS INCORPORATING SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THIS IS PART OF THE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS OF THE CITY THAT WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND THEN REQUIRING LEVEL OF SERVICE CONSIDERATIONS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PLAN ORIGINALLY, BUT SOMEWHAT NEGLECTED. TERMS OF THE HEARING PROCESS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTION IN APRIL.
SO WE'LL HAVE OUR TRANSMITTAL HEARING ON THE 16TH AND THEN.
WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 30 DAYS FOR STATE REVIEW.
HOPEFULLY THERE WON'T BE ANY REAL SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS.
THERE SHOULDN'T BE, BUT WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THE COMMENTS BACK FROM THE STATE REVIEW
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AGENCIES. AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS WILL BE COMING TO YOU VERY SOON.I DO HAVE A FEW ADDITIONAL SLIDES.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S IN THE DATA AND ANALYSIS PORTION OF THE PLAN.
AND THEN THIS IS THE CARRYING CAPACITY.
I WON'T GO INTO THIS UNLESS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ORDER. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
VERY BRIEFLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO INQUIRE.
THE VISION YEAR CHANGED AT SOME POINT TO 2045 FROM 2040.
WHEN DID THAT CHANGE AND WHY? SO IT WENT FROM 2045 TO 2050, RIGHT? I KNOW. 2042.
RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE WHEN WHEN THE CITY WENT OUT TO RFP.
AND SO WE CARRIED THAT FORWARD AND REALIZE THAT REALLY YOU WANT TO YOU NEED TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN ANYWAY, AND THAT'S 2045.
RIGHT NOW THEY ARE WORKING ON THE 2050 PLAN, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE READY.
YOU KNOW, DURING THIS PROCESS.
SO YOU'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TO FOLLOW THAT.
AND IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO ALIGN YOUR PLAN WITH THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN OF THE TPO.
THAT'S GOOD PLANNING PRACTICE.
BUT YES, SO IT WAS A REMNANT FROM THE ORIGINAL RFP BACK IN 2019.
I THINK BACK WHEN THAT WAS ISSUED, I THINK WE THOUGHT WE WERE PROBABLY GOING TO BE FURTHER ALONG.
BUT WE DID KNOW THAT THE VISIONING WAS GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST 12 MONTHS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS SOME PLAN OUT THERE THAT A CITIZEN COULD LOOK AT THAT HAS TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS FOR 2045? YOU SAID THE TPO. SO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, THEY ALREADY HAVE A 2045 PLAN THAT EXISTS.
YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO REFERENCE THAT AND THEN TRY TO STAY IN TUNE WITH IT.
AND YOU SAY 2050 IS ON THE HORIZON? CORRECT? CORRECT.
I'D LOVE HELP. GET MY HANDS ON THAT.
YOU GUYS HELP ME OUT WITH IT OFFLINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
SO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS WELL.
YOU CAN GET A COPY OF THE THE RTP AND THE TIP FROM THE SPACE COAST BOSS WEBSITE AND ACTUALLY.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. JUST ONE QUESTION.
WHERE CAN WE GET A HARD COPY OF THIS OF THE.
THE DATA ANALYSIS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
IT HAPPENED IN YOUR POCKET. I HAVE MY LAPTOP IF WE WANTED TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS.
SO. YOU DON'T HAVE IT NOW, JESSE.
WE ONLY HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.
THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT IN OUR PACKET.
I WANT TO GET A HARD COPY OF IT.
THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION.
SO WE DID GIVE YOU A CLEAN VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT.
WHEN WE PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE, THE WHOLE THING WILL BE UNDERLINED MEANING NEW TEXT TO THE PLAN.
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SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.YOU ARE NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ROBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
BUT WHEN IT WHEN THE NEW COMPLAINT IS BEING PRESENTED, IT REFERS TO AN ORDINANCE UNDER SB NUMBER.
NUMBER FOUR, SPA NUMBER FOUR, IT JUST SAYS REFER TO ORDINANCE 20 1062.
THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. IT'S ON SECOND TO THE LAST PAGE OR SOMETHING OF IT.
ORDINANCE 20 1062 ACTUALLY HAD IN IT? AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE YOU JUST VOTED ON CHANGING ON THE MECO ROAD.
THAT'S WHERE THIS IS LOCATED AT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REFERS TO IT, BUT ONLY IN NUMBER ONLY.
SO YOU DON'T GET A SEE WHAT WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT.
AND THAT'S WHERE I HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO IT REFERS TO ORDINANCE 20 1062, WHICH BY THE WAY, HAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT BILL BRATTON PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE CARRIED OVER FROM THAT ORDINANCE INTO THE NEW IF IT EVER GETS PASSED OR WHATEVER'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON MICHAEL PRESERVE.
I MEAN, ON THE MICO DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS IT, APEX OR A.
WHEN IT GETS INTO INTO ASHTON DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, THOUGH, IS THE FACT THAT 1062 ALSO CONTAINS THE PORTION THAT THEY'RE TALKING AND BEING PRESENTED FOR.
BUT THE ELEMENTS OF ONE IS CURRENT AND PERTAINING TO THE OTHER.
THAT'S SO IT'S IT'S IT'S HARD WAY TO GO UNLESS YOU HAVE THEM BOTH IN FRONT OF YOU.
RIGHT. SO LIKE I SAY, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THAT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF IT FINDING A WAY TO GET CARRIED OVER.
I MEAN, STUFF FOR SUSTAINABILITY DEVELOPMENTS.
BUT IT'S GOT CROSS ALL THAT BARRIER THAT THEY JUST PUT IN.
YET THE PREVIOUS ONE HAS THAT PROTECTION IN IT UNDER SUSTAINABILITY.
HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I DIDN'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE ANY OF THEIR TALKS.
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD SAW THAT IN THERE.
IT I HAD TO GO TO THE CITY CLERK.
GET THE DOWNLOAD SO I COULD REVIEW IT AND SEE WHAT WAS IN THERE.
AND IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON.
I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A NICE IDEA.
WE DON'T WANT TO GO BY THAT PROCESS.
IT'S JUST A BAD POLICY TO DO IT THAT WAY.
I KNOW IT WAS A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERFECT ANSWER.
BUT I'VE WATCHED OVER THE YEARS COMPREHENSIVE AND PLANNED FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.
IT JUST MEANS, WELL, WELL, WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT.
WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT. WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT.
SO THE CITY WAS NOT FOLLOWING THE COMP PLAN.
OK. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS ALSO KIND OF STRANGE THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTS, I NEVER NOTICED IT BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY STICKER, ANY STICKERS PLACED ON THE MICO ROAD PRESERVE WHERE PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A PRIORITY TO BE FOCUSING IN.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY STICKERS ON THAT.
SO CITY'S INVOLVEMENT IN IT DIDN'T SHOW ANYTHING FOR THAT AREA YET.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE JUST PUT INTO THE FOCAL POINT FOR TONIGHT AND TOMORROW'S MEETINGS.
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THERE IS SOME GOOD STUFF IN IT, BUT IT'S IT'S THICK.EVENING. PHILLIP CORCORAN, 1878 WYNBERG DRIVE.
I THINK ARDEN, DOCTOR ANDERSON, FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING ON IN JUNCTION WITH SO.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.
DEVELOPER COMING IN IS CAPPED AT 2000.
SO OUR OUR TEAM HERE SPENT HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN THAT.
367 HOME DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WAS A WASTE OF CITY'S TIME AND RESOURCES.
I THINK THAT IF WE RAISED THE APPLICATION FEE FOR THESE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, MAYBE TO 25,000, WE COULD AVOID THE HALF BAKED PROPOSALS AND GET A REASONABLE THING LIKE WE SAW TONIGHT WITH ASHTON PARK.
IT'S REFRESHING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S AT LEAST SOME SOMEBODY PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ANY CHANGES TO THE FUTURE USE REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY, NOT JUST IN THIS COUNCIL BUT IN THE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE IF ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES, THEY HAVE BUILT HERE KNOWING WHAT WAS AROUND THEM AND WHAT WAS NEAR THEM.
SO THOSE ARE MY TWO SUGGESTIONS.
FORD FOR. MOTION TO APPROVE CP THREE 2023.
SECOND. QUESTION IN THE SECOND.
HOUSEKEEPING. YOU HAVE ONE VACANCY THAT HAS COME UP ON THE BOARD.
RAJ IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.
SO. SO JUST BE MINDFUL IF YOU DON'T SEE HER.
MEETING ADJOURN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.