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GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 1ST IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

MR. BALMER, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? SEE.

THIS IS HOW THE ROLL, PLEASE.

YES, MR. BOEREMA PRESIDENT.

MR. GOOD. MS..

JORDAN PRESENT.

MR. OLSZEWSKI PRESENT.

MR. WARNER PRESENT.

MR. WEINBERG PRESENT.

IN OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS IS PRESENT.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY MEETING? SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION IS SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, I.

THE BENEFIT OF THOSE APPLICANTS IN THE AUDIENCE OF PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD COMPRISED OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.

PLAN DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.

BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT ANY INFORMATION GERMANE TO THE CASE.

AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, THE FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE WILL FIRST HEAR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION AND THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION FOR ALL PROCEEDINGS.

SPEAKER OATH CARDS LOCATED AT THE PODIUM AND AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

MUST BE PRESENTED.

PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.

AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.

I WILL THEN CALL FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND.

WELL THEN CALL FOR A VOTE.

DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ARE THEN FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DISPOSITION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN ADHERING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.

MR. ANDERSON.

OKAY. I'M SORRY.

THE FIRST CASE. C ONE 2023 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

[OLD/UNFINISHED BUSINESS:]

NO ACTION NEEDED.

NEXT CASE NEW BUSINESS.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

CP 42 2022 MR. ANDERSON. GOOD EVENING.

BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 40, 20, 20, 30, 2022.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

IT IS LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH AND WEST OF MECO ROAD IN THE VICINITY OF DOTY DRIVE.

THE LAND IN QUESTION IS APPROXIMATELY 1,435.36 ACRES.

ITS CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MICCO PARK VILLAGE DISTRICT AND ARE IS ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT PER ACRE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM MITCHELL PARK VILLAGE DISTRICT AND RAISE ONE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL UNIT PER ACRE BREVARD COUNTY TO MIXED USE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND FOR THE ANALYSIS TONIGHT, THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL FUTURE AMENDMENTS GOING FORWARD.

AS THE DIVERSITY AND MIXTURE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES PROVIDES FOR A MORE EFFICIENT DISTRIBUTION OF COMPATIBLE LAND USES.

AND IT FURTHER ADDRESSES THE LONG TERM GROWTH OF THE CITY BY PROVIDING RESIDENTS WITH MORE DIVERSE HOUSING AND A DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR.

IN ADDITION TO THESE ASPECTS, ASHTON PARK IS INTENDED TO BE A NEAR SELF-SUFFICIENT COMMUNITY IN RESPECT TO ITS INTERNALLY PROVIDED SERVICES AND AMENITIES, WHICH ARE SHOWN ON THE NEXT SLIDE AND THE MAP FOR YOU, WE CAN ALSO SHOW A BETTER PICTURE OF THIS ONCE THE DEVELOPER DOES COME UP AS WELL, SO THAT THEY CAN START TO ELABORATE FURTHER ON WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE HEART OF THIS DISTRICT, MORE TO THE WESTERN SIDE, WE HAVE THE LIGHTER SHADE OF LAVENDER PURPLISH, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY PARK AREA AS WELL AS SOME MULTIFAMILY AND TOWNHOMES WITH ABOVE IT TO THE NORTH, MORE COMMERCIAL FLEX USE.

SO THIS IS SHOWING THAT MIXTURE OF USES THROUGHOUT THE AREA THAT IS ENTAILING THE MIXED USE DESIGNATION FOR A FUTURE LAND USE AND WHY IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE REQUEST TODAY.

SO WITH THAT STAFF DOES FIND THAT CASE.

CP 42 2022 MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR A LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, WHICH IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE APPROVAL OF A COMPATIBLE ZONING DISTRICT FOR ANY LAND WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS PROJECT AREA.

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A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

MR. ANDERSON, IS THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE WILL THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU. JAKE WEISS, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST VALLEY BOULEVARD.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE JAMES DIX.

HE IS THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT.

IF IT IS APPROVED AND JUST THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET TO KNOW JAMES A LITTLE BIT IN HIS EXPERIENCE.

GOOD EVENING, BOARD. THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST TAKE A QUICK MINUTE AND BE BRIEF, BUT I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I'M JAMES DICKS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DICKS DEVELOPMENTS.

WE HAVE PROJECTS FROM ESSENTIALLY HERE TO CITRUS COUNTY AND IN BETWEEN, FROM THE ORLANDO AREA.

I AM A SEVENTH GENERATION FLORIDIAN, SO I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME DOING BASICALLY THE SAME THING MY FAMILY'S BEEN DOING FOR ABOUT 90 YEARS, INCLUDING SOME FARMING.

I'M A MARINE, SO I DO DRIVE A TIGHT SHIP, JAKE I'LL TELL YOU THAT I WORK BASICALLY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND JAKE WILL TELL YOU THAT AS WELL.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY FIRST, I WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT.

IT'S HUGE INVESTMENT FOR US.

IT'S A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THUS FAR, STAFF'S BEEN AMAZING.

I WISH ALL OF MY PROJECTS I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW EVERYBODY AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM. I'M SURE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PAYGRADE THAN ME AND CAN ANSWER THOSE PROBABLY BETTER THAN I CAN.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU SOON.

GREAT. THANKS. SO, STEPH, AS ALWAYS, THAT A VERY THOROUGH REPORT.

SO I'LL JUST HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS TONIGHT.

WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD BE THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE MICO ROAD RUNS ALONG.

YEAH. SO MICO ROAD RUNS ALONG THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE HERE, AND THEN IT BISECTS THE SITE THROUGH HERE.

I 95 IS RIGHT HERE.

AND EVERYTHING SOUTH OF US IS ACTUALLY THE BREVARD COUNTY LINE, THE SAINT SEBASTIAN PRESERVE.

AND EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH OF US IS BREVARD EELS LAND'S ENDANGERED LANDS THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.

SO WE'RE REALLY ALMOST COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY PRESERVATION LANDS, WHICH IS PRETTY EXCITING FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT.

AND AS I MENTIONED, MIKO ROAD RIGHT THROUGH HERE BISECTING THE NORTHERN 300 ACRES HERE IS BEING ANNEXED TO THE CITY.

THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY IN THE CITY.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT 300 ACRES BEING ANNEXED IN.

THAT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AND ANOTHER 135 ACRES THAT IS NOT THAT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS ALREADY TO MAKE UP THE ENTIRE 1400 ACRE PROJECT. SO AS A STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIED, WE DO COMPLY WITH THE ELEMENTS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE. I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL THERE IN HERE.

EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT.

AND THIS PROJECT PROPERTY SURPRISINGLY HAS ALMOST ZERO WETLANDS, NO PROTECTED SPECIES.

A LOT OF IT'S A FORMER TREE FARM.

SO WE REALLY HAD JUST A WIDE OPEN PALETTE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THIS MASTER PLAN.

I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROPERTY FOR OVER 15 YEARS, SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TO SEE IT COME TO THIS POINT.

THE PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE THE EXTENSION OF THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE RELATIVELY NEW I-95 INTERCHANGE AND THE PARKWAY GOES WEST TO BABCOCK STREET.

SO THIS WOULD EXTEND IT EAST THROUGH EMERALD LAKES, SOUTH THROUGH A PROPERTY THAT'S ABOUT 350 ACRES TO THE NORTH, AND THEN COME RIGHT AT OUR NORTH NORTHWEST CORNER.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THROUGH THE PROJECT WOULD BE THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY GOING THROUGH THE PROJECT.

SO OUR INTENT IS NOT TO PUT ALL OUR TRAFFIC ON MICO ROAD.

IT'S TO BRING IT INTERNAL.

AND ONE OF THE BIG FEATURES OF THIS PROJECT, TOO, IS THAT DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, WHICH YOU KIND OF SEE THERE IN THE MIDDLE THAT JESSE HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A DOWNTOWN WHERE PALM BAY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ONE TODAY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG FEATURE OF OUR OVERALL PROJECT.

WE WOULD ALSO EXTEND CITY UTILITIES AS PART OF IT.

THE OVERALL PROJECT WOULD BE PART OF A CD, A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

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WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS FOR THE CITY IS THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS OR HIGHER, BUT IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY MAINTAINED BY THE CD.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE CITY BURDEN OF HAVING TO MAINTAIN ALL THESE FACILITIES THAT WE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING AND THEN JUST RUNNING THROUGH THE OTHER ELEMENTS.

THE INTER-GOVERNMENT COORDINATION.

WE'VE HAD A MEETING WITH THE BOVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

WE'VE SET ASIDE A 30 ACRE SCHOOL SITE, WHICH IS LARGER THAN THEY WOULD TYPICALLY NEED, AND WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT TO THEM AS PART OF IT AS WELL. AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO BRING A NEW SCHOOL DOWN HERE.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, WE HAVE, AGAIN, THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY, THE INTERCONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE SITE, ROADS THAT WOULD CONNECT TO MICO ROAD AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERCONNECTIVITY FOR VEHICLES, BUT WE DIDN'T STOP THERE.

A BIG, BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT IS THE RECREATIONAL ELEMENT.

WE HAVE OVER 90 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE RECREATION, OPEN SPACE AREAS.

SO A BIG PART OF THAT IS TO BASICALLY CREATE A MULTI MILE LOOP THAT COULD GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE A BIG CORRIDOR THROUGH HERE.

WE HAVE A MIX OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARKS AND AMENITIES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF IT.

SO THE MAJORITY OF IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE WITH A SMALLER PORTION OF IT BEING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO ARE PROVIDING A SITE FOR EACH OF THEM OR COMBINED SITE AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

THEY'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT THEY'D LIKE TO BE TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE HERE AT THE WESTERN END OF OUR SITE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THEM TO PROVIDE A FIRE AND POLICE STATION.

UM, THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN THE CENTER HERE.

IS OVER 40 ACRES.

SOMETIMES THE SCALE OF THIS PROJECT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

OVER 1400 ACRES, THAT'S A LARGE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, AND THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH DOWNTOWN AREAS BEFORE WITH OTHER PROJECTS.

WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, MOSTLY ALONG THE MECO AREA AND A LITTLE BIT MICO ROAD, EXCUSE ME, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT DOWN HERE AT THE EASTERN END OF THE SITE AND THEN OF COURSE, THE LARGE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT FOR A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE AS FAR AS THE MIXED USE.

REQUEST FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE, IT'S SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL USES.

WE'RE PROPOSING EVERYTHING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO TOWNHOMES TO APARTMENTS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MASTER PLAN.

AND AS THE MARKET CHANGES, BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG TERM PROJECT, THIS IS A BIG, LONG TERM COMMITMENT FOR MR. DIX AND HIS TEAM.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE MARKET SO THE PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO SUCCEED WITH THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL USES HERE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE STAFF.

WE DID GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ALREADY FOR THE ANNEXATION OF THE 300 ACRES, AND SO WE DID PRESENT THE ENTIRE PROJECT TO THEM.

GOT A LOT OF SMILES AND NODDING HEADS AND THEY SEEM TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE.

THEY DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THE ANNEXATION FOR THE PROJECT.

SO THIS IS THE NEXT STEP BEFORE YOU.

SO TONIGHT WE ASK FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THEM.

IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THOSE.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

REAL, REAL GENERAL QUESTION, JAKE.

I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF AN EDUCATED GUESS.

HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE BUILD OUT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE? YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OF COURSE, IS SO MARKET DRIVEN.

WE HAD THE DOWNTURN, IF YOU CALL IT POLITELY, THAT SLOWED THINGS DOWN FOR A LONG TIME FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY 10 TO 15 YEARS ALSO TO, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTION TO THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

I DON'T THINK A LOT OF TRAFFIC WILL BE WILL BE ROUTED TO LOCAL ROADS IN THAT AREA AND ANYBODY WANTING TO GO NORTH, WHICH THE MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC I ASSUME WOULD WANT TO GO NORTH, THEY WOULD JUST HOP ON THE PARKWAY TO 95.

AND EVEN IF THEY WERE GOING TO YOU KNOW LOCAL ROADS, MALABAR ROAD, PALM BAY ROAD AND SO ON, JUST HOP ON 95.

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IT WOULD REALLY RELIEVE A LOT OF THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC FROM.

PROTON. IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE PARKWAY.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH EMERALD LAKES.

WE'RE WORKING WITH 350 ACRE PROJECT I MENTIONED TO THE SOUTH OF EMERALD LAKES.

AND THIS PROJECT. PROJECT ALL TOGETHER WITH THE CITY.

THEY'VE MET AT EACH OTHER'S OFFICES.

WE'VE BEEN ON CALLS WITH THE CITY TO COORDINATE ALL OF THAT COMING THROUGH THERE.

SO IT'S REALLY A REGIONAL PROJECT FOR THE PARKWAY AND THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS WHOLE AREA.

ONE OTHER QUESTION, JAKE.

THE COST TO EXTEND THE PARKWAY WOULD BE DONE AT THE DEVELOPER'S COST, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S THE BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS IS HOW DO WE WORK THROUGH THAT? BUT YES, THAT IS A.

THE QUESTION. BUT.

GREAT QUESTION. SO SPECIFICALLY, WE DID SOME WORK AND THIS IS MODELED AFTER WINTER SPRINGS TOWN CENTER.

AND I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE WHOLE DESIGN BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE WORK WITH STAFF BEFORE WE EVER PRESENTED THIS.

SO I REALLY HAD A KIND OF A FLAVOR OF WHAT WOULD REALLY WORK FOR THE AREA AND WHAT PALM BAY REALLY NEEDED.

SO WE KIND OF TOOK ALL THAT GOT WITH JAKE AND KIND OF LAID IT OUT SPECIFICALLY TO TRY AND MEET ALL OF THOSE DEMANDS.

I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS SUPER EXCITED.

WE'VE I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE OUR SECOND MEETING AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO WANT TO COME IN AND THEY HAVE SOME EXCITING THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO PLAN FOR SCHOOLS.

I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS, JAKE, WAS MAYBE THE FIRST K THROUGH EIGHT.

AT THIS SITE. SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT TOO AS WELL.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BEFORE JAKE AND JAKE, YOU MENTIONED THE THE MIXED USE, THE SO WITH THE MIXED USE, IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR OR OR RESIDENTIAL.

YOU ARE CONSIDERED ANYTHING WITH RESIDENTIAL? WELL, FOR A RURAL RESIDENTIAL, I THINK YOU MEAN LIKE LESS DENSE RESIDENTIAL.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO OR FOR MIXED USE? WE HAVE FROM THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT THE ABILITY TO HAVE DOWNSTAIRS COMMERCIAL AND UPSTAIRS RESIDENTIAL.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? I'M REFERRING TO IS THERE A POSSIBLE I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING 1400 ACRES.

IS THAT YOU ALL EVEN CONSIDER? MAYBE. YOU KNOW, MY BIG THING IS ONE ACRE HOME SITES, FIVE ACRE HOME SITES.

YEAH. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ANY SITES OF THAT SIZE FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT.

NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION DOWN THE ROAD.

ABSOLUTELY. IF THE MARKET IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT, ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD BE.

AND YOU MENTIONED THE 40 ACRES OF THE DOWNTOWN.

I NOTICED THAT IN THE PACKAGE THAT THE PROJECT WAS SOMEWHAT SELF-CONTAINED, WHICH I MEAN, 1400 ACRES.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY IT IS RATHER IMPRESSIVE FOR TO BE A SELF CONTAINMENT.

HAVE A PROJECT. SO DO THAT MEAN THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA THEN IS NOT OPEN TO THE REST OF PALM BAY? OR IS IT JUST OR THE RESIDENTS OF THAT GENERAL AREA? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY OPEN AND HOPING TO BRING A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE HERE DOWN THE PARKWAY.

YEAH. THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IS WITH THE RESIDENTS OF PALM ATTENDING.

YOU KNOW, LORD KNOWS THAT WE COME HERE FOR A LOT OF MEETINGS, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, A LOT OF COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION WE GET THE MOST OFTEN IS WHEN ARE YOU BRINGING THIS RESTAURANT AND WHEN ARE YOU? HOW CAN WE GET TO DOWNTOWN AREA? SO WE THINK WE'RE CHECKING A LOT OF BOXES THAT CURRENT RESIDENTS ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR.

AND OBVIOUSLY OUR RESIDENTS WITHIN THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

YEAH, THAT WAS SOMETHING STEPH BROUGHT UP, ACTUALLY.

YEAH. AND WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL THAT YOU SAID YOU ALREADY DONE WAS WINTER? WE WORKED ON WINTER SPRINGS UP IN ORLANDO AREA NORTH, BUT WE HAVE THREE OTHER TOWN CENTERS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THROUGH VARIOUS AVENUES OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN FIND ALL THOSE ON OUR WEBSITE, WHICH IS DISCUSS DEVELOPMENTS WITH ASK.COM.

AS YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AND WATER IS A BIG IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR US.

SO. I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FUNNEL MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC INWARD.

SO WHAT ARE THERE AT THIS POINT? AND I'M SURE IT'S KIND OF KIND OF EARLY TO ANTICIPATE WHAT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

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BUT CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT YOU THINK THAT MAY BE? CERTAINLY, NO QUESTION.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AT COUNCIL WAS THE PARKWAY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WILL COME RIGHT DOWN HERE AND HAVE A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION WITH MICO ROAD.

THAT'S A 200 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

IT WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE A FOUR LANE ROAD.

IT WILL BE DESIGNED TO BE A SIX LANE ROAD IF EVER NECESSARY, WHICH IS HOW THE OTHER PARKWAY LEG IS DONE.

AND THEN IT'S HARD TO TELL AT THE SCALE, BUT THAT'S A 200 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY TRANSITIONING TO 124 RIGHT OF WAY.

SO YOUR NORMAL CITY, RIGHT OF WAY IS 50 FEET DOING 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS.

SO WE KNOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT.

PICO ROAD CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY IS OVER 100 FEET WIDE SO IT'S GOT A LOT OF ROOM AS WELL.

AND EVEN THESE ROADS THAT GO OFF TO THE NORTH THAT INTERCONNECT THROUGH HERE, THOSE ARE 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS.

AGAIN, WE WANT TO DO BOULEVARDS, WE WANT TO DO NICE LANDSCAPING LIGHTING.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, A LOT OF INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL USES AND THE PARKS AND THINGS.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT, IS THE KIND OF INTERNAL CAPTURE, IF YOU WILL, OF TRAFFIC.

AND THEN THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY IS THE BIGGEST THING FOR THE TRAFFIC.

WELL QUESTIONS BUT I KNOW THEY GOT.

I KNOW THEY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

WHAT KIND OF ACCOMMODATIONS? THANK YOU, MR. WEISS, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WHAT KIND OF ACCOMMODATIONS DO WE HAVE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO GET FROM YOUR NORTHERN CORNER CORRIDOR AND SO ON TO YOUR DOWNTOWN? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO CROSS MOCO ROAD? SO WHAT WE HAVE ALONG THE SOUTHERN AREA HERE.

ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE.

THAT'S A REGIONAL TRAIL.

SO THAT'LL BE EAST WEST.

SAFE WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET ACROSS.

WE WILL HAVE INTERSECTIONS WITH SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT THOSE MAIN POINTS, AND THEN WE WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC OTHERWISE.

WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHETHER IT WOULD BE A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, BUT THE CITY DOES HAVE THAT ALLOWABLE IN THEIR CODE NOW.

AND WE'RE SEEING THAT WHETHER PEOPLE WANT TO GO OFF DUTY OR NOT, WE'RE SEEING THAT HAPPEN ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THE BIG WIDE RIGHT OF WAYS IS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL.

MR.. DO YOU ANTICIPATE PERHAPS HAVING TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC ON WACO ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE THE MORE RESIDENTIAL, MORE PEDESTRIAN NATURE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE ROAD? I THINK I MEAN, THAT STRETCH IS IF IT'S GREATER THAN 45, I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE GO IS PROBABLY 60, 65, BUT I THINK IT'S A 45 TO A 50 POSTED.

DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'D HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN JUST FROM THE THE NATURE OF YOUR PROJECT THAT MAKE IT MORE OF A, HEY, YOU'RE PASSING THROUGH THAN A THOROUGHFARE THAT IT IS. YOU GUYS ARE HITTING ALL THE MARKS TONIGHT.

THIS IS GREAT. SO THESE ARE ALL ITEMS WE HAVE DISCUSSED.

MICO ROAD IS CURRENTLY A COUNTY ROAD, BUT THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT THEY KIND OF LIKE THOSE PORTIONS OF BABCOCK STREET THAT THE COUNTY WILL PROVIDE OR ASK THE CITY TO TAKE OVER THE ROADWAY. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT ALREADY.

IF YOU DO DRIVE THROUGH THERE TODAY, IT'S BIG OPEN FIELDS.

IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD.

PEOPLE GO REALLY FAST.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO SLOW THAT DOWN.

YEAH. IT'S KIND OF A BUMMER TO THINK ABOUT TAKING ON MORE ROADS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

SHE HADN'T MENTIONED IT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO ASK YOU, SIR, IS 10 TO 15 YEAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE OPTIMISTIC SIDE.

REALISTICALLY, WHEN WOULD THIS BEGIN? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND DOWN THERE, MAYBE LACING PIPES, THINGS OF THAT SORT? WELL, THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND THEN THE CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL FOR THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT TO TAKE PROBABLY MOST OF THIS YEAR.

SO IF ALL GOES WELL, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS IN PLACE.

WITH YOUR BLESSING AND THE COUNCIL'S BLESSING, WE WOULD HAVE THE ZONING AND LAND USE AND A MASTER PLAN APPROVAL.

AND THEN THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS WITH THE PARKWAY EXTENSION UTILITY EXTENSION.

THE CITY, AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, BECAUSE I'VE MENTIONED IT IN MANY OTHER PROJECTS, IS HAS A $40 MILLION INVESTMENT TO BOTH THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSIONS OF BAYSIDE LAKES, AND THAT IS ANTICIPATION OF THIS PROJECT COMING WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THE MAINS AND THE ROADS THROUGH EMERALD LAKES AND WATERSTONE AND CYPRESS BAY.

THAT WAS IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS COMING AS WELL.

SO THIS HAS TRULY BEEN 15 YEARS PLUS IN THE PLANNING.

ONE LAST QUESTION, IF FOR MAY.

THANK YOU. SO FAR AS AND IF I'M JUMPING THE GUN STAFF LET ME KNOW.

BUT SO FAR AS LATER ON, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.

AND IT REFERS TO THE MICCO PARK SPA, WHICH MY ACRONYMS I'M BAD TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY.

SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR, IS AS FAR AS WHEN IT REFERS TO THAT PROJECT, IT REFERS TO A SPECIFIC ORDINANCE THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS VILLAGE ORDINANCE TEN, DASH

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SOMETHING OR OTHER. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT ORDINANCE? HEY, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS AGO IT WAS SOMETHING YOU WERE WORKING ON PROBABLY, AND THE CONFINES OF THAT BECAUSE I MYSELF AM NOT.

AND I HOPE TO GET MORE DETAIL OF IT LATER ON IN THE BUSINESS ITEM, BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ARE AND WHAT IT IS AND IF THIS PROJECT FALLS IN EVERYTHING THAT IT SHOULD SO FAR AS YOU KNOW. SO ACTUALLY WE'RE CHANGING TO A MIXED USE FROM THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

SO WE DID NOT CREATE THAT.

IT WAS PUT ON THIS LAND AND IT DOESN'T FIT IN TODAY'S MARKET.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST NOT A MARKETABLE ZONING IN OUR OPINION IN THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'LL ASK STAFF MORE ABOUT THEIR STUFF LATER, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR ENTERTAINING ME THERE.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR QUESTIONS.

KEEP. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE REGARDING THIS CASE.

LAW IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? SEEING NONE ANYONE OPPOSED.

WRITTEN. SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. I HEARD 15 YEARS, 2005.

THAT'S 18 YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS.

THAT'S A LONG TIME TO BE WORKING ON A PROJECT.

THAT'S FROM WHEN WE STARTED MAKING OUR FIRST FIRST PLOTS COMING IN.

THAT'S HOW LONG BUILD BATTENS BEEN COMING AND VOICING, IN HIS OPINION, AT THIS STUFF.

SO THERE'S PAST HISTORY.

THIS IS A CASE OF WHERE WE HAVE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

EXCUSE ME. THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ITEM NUMBER THREE SHOULD BE PASSED BY COUNCIL BEFORE ANY LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT IS EVEN CONSIDERED.

NUMBER TWO, THIS ITEM HAS DIRECT IMPACT ON SPAS.

NUMBER FOUR, IN THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOTE SPECIAL PROJECT AREA.

NUMBER FOUR HAS A DCA AND AN RC REPORT FROM THE STATE AND THE CITY AGREED WITH THAT REPORT AND VOTED AS SUCH, RESULTING IN THE CITY ORDINANCE 20 1062.

SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU KNOW THE OUTCOME OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT IS LIKE CLOSING THE DOOR TO THE BARN AFTER THE HORSE HAS GOT OUT.

THIS REQUEST IS ASKING YOU TO APPROVE A LAND USE CHANGE ON PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY IS NOT EVEN IN THE CITY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT LEADS ME TO THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

THIS PORTION THAT THEY'RE TALKING RIGHT ALONG MICO ROAD.

THEY AREN'T SAYING. THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'RE DEALING WE'RE TALKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT CONNECT FROM EMERALD.

EMERALD PROPERTIES OR EMERALD HOLDINGS DOWN THROUGH LAND THAT'S NOT EVEN SHOWN IN THIS DIAGRAM WHERE THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

SO IT IS THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY GOING TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THEY BUILD THIS, OR IS THIS JUST GOING TO BE AN ISLAND OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE THAT THAT GETS GETS PUT IN AND EVERYTHING'S RUNS OFF OF MECO ROAD? OR ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN I MEAN INFRASTRUCTURE, I'M TALKING THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AT NO EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF PALM BAY.

IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT MUST BE MET PRIOR TO THIS HAPPENING? BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN ROADS GO IN SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY TO THE WEST ALL THE WAY UP, BUT 200 FEET DID NOT GET DONE.

AND IT SAT THAT WAY FOR YEARS AND ENDED UP COMING OUT OF THE POCKET OF THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ENTIRE $9 MILLION BILL THAT WAS PUT ON THAT PORTION OF THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

SO I'M REQUESTING THAT THE DEVELOPER MAKES THAT COMMITMENT IN PUBLIC, SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

OR IS IT GOING TO BE. NO, YOU JUST TRAVEL ON MITCHELL ROAD.

WE HAVE BUILT ALL THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION AND SINCE THAT'S COUNTY ROAD, IT SHOULDN'T BE IMPACTING ON YOU AT ALL.

WELL, BABCOCK WAS COUNTY ROAD AND LOOK WHAT IT ENDED UP COSTING US AS THEY DID THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THAT ONE IS THE SCHOOLS.

SCHOOL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER IS DEDICATING LAND FOR THIS FUTURE SCHOOL.

AND I SAW THE LETTERS WITH SUE HORNE STATING THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING.

WANT TO TALK MORE, WHICH IS GREAT.

BUT THE LAND ITSELF DOES NOT BUILD SCHOOLS AND LAND ITSELF DOES NOT BUILD FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND IT DOES NOT BUILD POLICE DEPARTMENTS. THE LAND IS NOT THE OBJECTIVE, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO IF WE BUILD THESE, THAT COMES OUT OF GREAT EXPENSE.

WE'RE NOW TRYING TO BUILD A FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE IN PALM BAY.

THE NEXT STATION THAT WE'RE STILL HAVING FUNDING PROBLEMS FOR, I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, IT'S GREAT.

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YOU GAVE ME A POSTAGE STAMP SIZE TO PUT IT ON.

HOW ABOUT HELPING US GET THERE TO THE ACTUAL BUILD? I KNOW THAT'S ASKING A LOT FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SAYING, IT'S GREAT.

YOU GAVE ME LAND. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH IT.

THAT BEING SAID.

I SEE GROWTH, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS QUITE READY TO BE THERE.

BUT IF THEY DON'T START, THEY'LL NEVER GET THERE.

I'M JUST AFRAID OF SEEING AN ISLAND AT THE END OF MICO ROAD BETWEEN BAREFOOT BAY AND AND BABCOCK STREET SITTING OUT THERE, WHICH IS.

OWN INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY WITHIN THE CITY.

I COULD SEE THAT HAPPENING.

AND THAT IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR POLICE OR FIRE.

THANK YOU. Q ANYONE ELSE, SIR? ROBERT STAYS 1796 WHEN BROOK DRIVE.

THANK YOU, BILL, FOR HIS DETAIL.

NOBODY DOES HOMEWORK LIKE BILL.

I'M JUST. I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM A 30,000.

FOR PERSPECTIVE.

SO EXPANDING THE ROAD FROM 95 TO MICO, WHEN I HEARD SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, WE'LL WORK WITH OR WE'LL HAVE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER ON.

I'VE BEEN COMING HERE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, MAYBE ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF, AND I'VE JUST SEEN DEVELOPER AFTER DEVELOPER PROMISE THE WORLD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BUILD, THEY'RE GONE AND YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT.

WE'RE STUCK WITH IT.

I'M A RESIDENT HERE.

THIS REMINDS ME WHEN I MOVED TO COLORADO IN 77.

WATCHING IT GROW UP, I WAS WONDERING IF IF THERE'S A WALKING TRAIL ALL AROUND THIS AREA, MAYBE THE DEVELOPER CAN COMMENT ON THAT WHEN I'M DONE.

BUT. BUILDING MAY START IN 2024, 15 YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE A YEAR.

THAT'S 2040. HOW MANY OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND IN 2040? MAN, THAT'S A HELL OF A LONG TIME.

YOU'RE WILLING TO SEE ALL CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THAT THROUGH THROUGH ALL OF THESE YEARS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THAT GOING TO IMPACT? I BACK TO THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE.

WELL, WHAT USED TO BE CALLED A MAJORS GOLF COURSE.

AND I WENT WALKING ON THERE THE OTHER DAY RIDING MY BIKE.

PEOPLE ARE IN GOLF CARTS.

PEOPLE ARE WALKING THEIR DOGS.

PEOPLE ARE WEARING DIRT BIKES.

SO THESE 40 ACRES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR DOWNTOWN AREA THAT CAN BE FENCED OFF OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, PEOPLE FLYING THROUGH THERE.

I MEAN, YOU JUST START, OF COURSE, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

ALL MY LIFE, I THINK THE ONE THING I'M NOT AN EXPERT AT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT BODY LANGUAGE, SEEING A LOT OF HEADS GOING DOWN.

AND I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU'VE ALREADY MADE A DECISION.

I REALLY AM. I KNOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP PALM BAY AND GET IT AWAY FROM A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

I GET THAT. I KNOW WE WANT TO HAVE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT.

I'M JUST NOT I HATE TO BE ANYWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS CONSTRUCTION GOES ON FOR 15 YEARS.

WOULD YOU? YOU KNOW, REALLY, I'M JUST NOT GETTING THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, WHO'S GOING TO PICK UP THE PRICE OF THE ROAD FROM 95 TO MIKA, WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN 15 YEARS.

THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GONE.

YOU'D BE TALKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

ARE YOU GOING TO RESOLVE THAT? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RESOLVE ALL THIS OPEN SPACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY? PEOPLE HAVE DIRT BIKES AND FOUR BY FOURS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY.

THEY'RE DOING IT ON THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE RIGHT NOW.

SO LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 15 YEARS? WHAT'S THAT GOING TO TAKE? AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU REALLY KEEP AN OPEN MIND WHEN SOMEBODY IS MAKING A DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY SOME.

NEVER MIND. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THANK YOU. AM.

BARBARA SHERRY, 4300 TRAVELING LANE, FLORIDA, RIGHT NEXT TO THE NORTHWEST END OR NORTHEAST AND THERE.

I'VE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE COMPOUND IS.

AND THIS IS JUST GIVING ME EERIE FEELINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START DEVELOPING AND THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF EMPTY ROADS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GO PLAY ON AND GET HURT AND JUST TURN INTO THE WILD WEST LIKE THE COMPOUND IS RIGHT NOW.

TWO MURDERS THAT HAPPENED ON CHRISTMAS.

IS THIS GOING TO TURN INTO THAT BEFORE YOU PUT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE STATION? WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT LONG RUN? IS IT GOING TO BE THE CITY? OR IS IT GOING TO BE YOUNGER RESIDENTS STILL STANDING HERE IN 15 YEARS WHEN THEY DECIDE TO MAYBE PUT IN ALL THE REST OF THE UTILITIES? THEY'RE TURNING 6% OF THE 1400 ACRES THAT IS CURRENTLY GREEN SPACE INTO GREEN SPACE.

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DOESN'T NECESSARILY FLOW WITH THE REST OF THE AREA THAT'S DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW.

THERE ARE HOUSES THAT ARE ABOUT ACRES DIFFERENCE, TWO AND A HALF ACRE PLOTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITIZENS IN IRAN NECESSARILY CARE FOR A DOWNTOWN AREA A FEW MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD FROM THEM AND ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE PIPED TO BABCOCK.

AS THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN SAID.

IF THE ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY DOESN'T FINISH GETTING PUT IN.

HOW IS. THIS PLAN DIFFERENT FROM EMERALD LAKES, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PLANNED FOR THE END OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY? THERE'S A DOWNTOWN AREA PLANNED FOR THERE.

WHY DO WE NEED TWO OF THEM? WHEN ELSE? AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? DON'T MIND TO GO FIRST.

MA'AM? SIR? CHIEF. SURE THIS WON'T BE THE LAST TIME.

VERY WELL PREPARED.

GREAT OBJECTIONS FROM EVERYONE.

I ACTUALLY TAKE ALL THOSE AND MENTALLY WILL PROCESS THOSE.

AND WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT ANYBODY SAYS.

I CAN ANSWER QUITE A FEW OF THOSE.

FIRST OF ALL. SENIOR CHIEF.

I DIDN'T TAKE QUITE AS GOOD MENTAL NOTES, BUT I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, THE ANSWER ON HOW THAT STUFF GETS PAID FOR, LET'S BREAK THAT OUT INSTEAD OF LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PARKWAY FOR A SECOND. PARKWAY IS GETTING BUILT.

WHETHER I DO THIS PROJECT OR NOT, WHETHER I LEAVE AND DECIDE I DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP IT, I DON'T WANT TO BUY IT, I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE IT.

I WANT TO DO IT. WHATEVER THE PARKWAY IS GETTING BUILT.

SO THAT'S GETTING SOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE I'M INVOLVED, WHICH MEANS I'M GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARKWAY, THE COST OF THAT PARKWAY, THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS, THE TRIPARTITE AGREEMENTS, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE TRANSFER, THE TIRE STUDIES, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

THE SECOND THING IS EVERYTHING THAT GOES INSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.

15 YEARS IS JUST A GUESS.

LISTEN, I'M A MARINE.

I WANT IT DONE TOMORROW.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY.

FIRST THING I DO IS LOCK EVERYTHING DOWN.

PEOPLE ARE NOT ON MY PROPERTY.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF ANYBODY'S RIDING MOTORCYCLES ON, IT'S ME.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

MY FAMILY'S BEEN HERE FOR 90 YEARS.

MY EIGHTH GENERATION SON IS HERE TONIGHT.

HE'S NOT GOING HERE. HE WORKS FULL TIME WITH ME AFTER GRADUATING FROM UCF TO BE IN THIS BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW, I TAKE PRIDE IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'LL SEE OUT THERE ON MY WEBSITE.

IF YOU EVER DRIVE BY ANY OF MY PROJECTS, YOU'LL SEE EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

WHEN WE SAY 15 YEARS, WE'RE BUILDING A CITY PART OF PALM BAY.

THIS ISN'T A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A COMMUNITY WITH 200 HOMES.

I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WITH 200 HOMES AND 120 ACRE GOLF COURSE.

IT'S HUGE. THIS IS GOING TO BE 3000 HOMES WITH, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT BUILDINGS, A DOWNTOWN, 40 ACRES OF A DOWNTOWN.

PEOPLE WANT TO COME HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR TEN YEARS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RELOCATING OR WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE SCHOOLS AND THE FIRE STATION AND THE POLICE STATION.

YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THOSE FROM IMPACT FEES, FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING IF PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BUY LOTS.

RIGHT. AND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A COMPOUND ISSUE? NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A COMPOUND ISSUE, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT SOLVED IS WE DO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, RIGHT? COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS WILL COME IN.

IT'S BASICALLY A MUNICIPALITY.

WE RAISED BONDS TO DO ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST SIT IN ROADS, COMPOUNDS, A DIFFERENT STORY, RIGHT? IT'S SITTING THERE OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

THERE'S NO UTILITIES.

WE'RE INVESTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BRING UTILITIES INTO THE COMMUNITY.

AND AS FAR AS MCL ROAD AND ANY OF THOSE OTHER ROADS THAT GO LIKE THAT, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS DICTATED BY TIA'S DOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH YOUR BOARD, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WITH STAFF, THERE'S SPECIFIC CODE AS TO TURNING LANES, DE LANES, SIDEWALKS, HOW WIDE THEY ARE, HOW MANY ARE THEY ARE.

MOST OF MY COMMUNITIES ARE GOLF CART FRIENDLY.

THEY HAVE MULTI PURPOSE TRAILS.

I DON'T LIKE FOUR FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS.

I LIKE SIX FOOT EIGHT FOOT THAT PEOPLE CAN DO STUFF THAT'S NEW, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE ACTIVITY AND THEY'LL BE ALL THROUGH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SPECIALIZE AND THAT WE'RE DOING IN ALL OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES.

SO WE'VE THOUGHT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.

AND I'M NOT DISCOUNTING ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY BRINGS UP HERE, AND I'LL HEAR A LOT MORE OF THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT THAT GOES INTO THAT AND THE TIME THAT THEY SPEND TO COME OUT HERE TO MAKE THEIR COMMUNITY BETTER.

BUT I MEAN, WE WORK HARD, TOO, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND I THINK THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THEY. PART OF ALL THAT UP.

I THINK HE HIT ALL THE POINTS THAT I THAT I WROTE DOWN.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS BAYSIDE LEAGUES, FOR EXAMPLE, A DECADE, DECADE AND A HALF TO DEVELOP STILL SOME VACANT LAND AND BAYSIDE LAKES.

VIERA JUST GOT AWARDED THE TOP EIGHT MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

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ROUSING SUCCESS.

I REMEMBER THE LATE EIGHTIES, EARLY NINETIES WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER WAS MOVED THERE AND YOU DROVE DOWN 95 AND THERE WAS JUST THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT IS THAT COMMITMENT, THAT TYPE OF TIME TO IT.

I WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, BASIC IDEA, TEN YEARS, 15 YEARS, WE DON'T KNOW.

IT'S MARKET DRIVEN, BUT THIS PROJECT IS YEARS IN THE MAKING TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF EXTENDING THE UTILITIES AND THE PARKWAY AND WORKING WITH THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO PAY FOR ALL OF THAT TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.

THIS PROJECT WON'T START UNLESS THAT PARKWAY IS COMING AND THE UTILITIES ARE COMING.

IT WON'T START, IT WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT CAN MOVE FORWARD.

THAT TAKES YEARS OF PLANNING.

AND SO WE'RE AT THE VERY INFANCY FIRST STEP TONIGHT.

IF YOU ARE WILLING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THE COUNCIL WILL MOVE FORWARD.

YOU'LL SEE US AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE MORE DETAILS AND MORE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO AND HOW TO WORK OUT SOME OF THOSE LONGER TERM PLANS.

SO THAT BEING SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE.

YOU. CHAIR.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF I MAY.

THANK YOU. CAN CAN WE GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE THE MIKKO PARK VILLAGE SPECIAL PROJECT AREA AND HOW IT RELATES TO THIS CASE AND HOW IT DOESN'T AND THINGS OF THIS SORT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO FIRST OFF, THE SPECIAL PLANNING AREAS, THE SPA IS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLUDED TO TONIGHT ARE PART AND PARCEL OF ONE OF OUR NEXT CASES, WHICH IS THE POTENTIAL ADOPTION OF A NEW FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.

THE SPECIAL PLANNING AREAS ARE A OVERARCHING.

TOPICAL NAME FOR SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE CITY THAT HAD ENTITLEMENTS ENTITLED TO THEM AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LEVEL, WHICH IS A VERY UNUSUAL TRAIT TO HAVE HAPPEN BECAUSE ANY SORT OF.

EFFORT TO AMEND OR CHANGE THOSE PARAMETERS THEN HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY STATE AGENCIES THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT FASHION, WHICH IS A LOT LONGER PROCESS AND MORE DUBIOUS RESULTING.

OFTEN WHEN THIS SORT OF PROCESS FALLS INSIDE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FOR INSTANCE, A DEVELOPER DOES CHANGE HANDS.

THE LACKLUSTER NATURE OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE THIS COME TO FRUITION COMES FROM IT BEING IMBEDDED INSIDE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TO GET THAT TO COME TO FRUITION.

SO A LOT OF THIS ENDS UP BEING CIRCULATED MUCH MORE AT THE ZONING LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY REGULATE THE PROPERTIES THROUGH THE REGULATORY TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WHERE WE GIVE THEM MORE. SO THE ENTITLEMENT LEVELS OF BROAD SCALE, SUCH AS INTENSITY AND DENSITY AT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LEVEL WITH IN THIS CASE TO SOLVE A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN THE AREA IN TERMS OF AGREEMENTS WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT YOU WOULD BE RECOMMENDING AS A CONDITION TONIGHT.

SAID. SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND THIS CHANGE ENDS UP GOING FORWARD, WILL IT RENDER THAT SPECIFIC SPECIAL PROJECT AREA MOOT? BECAUSE NONE OF THE LAND THAT'S WITHIN IT WILL BE PARK DISTRICT LANDS.

IT WILL ALL BE MIXED USE LAND WITHIN THE CITY.

OKAY, SO EVERYTHING UNDER THIS CURRENT APPLICATION, JUST TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE THE MICCO PARK VILLAGE DISTRICT DOES EXTEND BEYOND THIS AND WE HAVE ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR THAT IN THE MIDDLE CURRENTLY THAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD, I BELIEVE, MARCH.

SO THAT IS THE INTENT TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE CHANGE, POTENTIALLY CHANGE AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OVERALL OUTCOME IS.

BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, YES, THAT THIS WILL REPEAL ALL OF THAT ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT ORDINANCE WAS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THAT DISTRICT AT THE TIME PERIOD, WHICH IS A VERY LOW DENSITY, RELATIVELY SPRAWLED OUT COMMUNITY WITH A LOW LEVEL OF SERVICES PROVIDED FOR IT.

SO WE DID NOT HAVE LOCATIONS FOR MOST OF THESE MULTI USE TYPE AMENITIES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED HERE, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THE INSTITUTIONAL NATURE.

RATHER, IT WAS ABOUT THREE UNITS PER ACRE OVER THE SAME 1400.

THIS WILL BE NORMAL MIXED USE LAND WITHIN THE CITY.

AND THEN THE ONLY THING THAT WILL MAKE IT SPECIAL IS WHAT THEY'LL DO IN THEIR OWN ENDEAVORS OF MAKING IT A DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND FUNDING THROUGH ALL THAT.

BUT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEIR LAND IS MIXED USE LAND IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT'S NOT SPECIAL MIXED USE, CORRECT? AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WILL BE JUST THE MIXED USE DESIGNATION OF FUTURE LAND USE THERE.

THE INTENT WILL BE THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE SPECIAL DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF WHAT HAS BEEN CREATED IN THE PAST.

BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE INGENUITY AND INNOVATIVE DESIGN THROUGH DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES THAT ARE A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE IN THEIR NATURE GOING FORWARD.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IF.

OR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

STORM. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IS PROBABLY MORE REMINISCENT OF THE ERA THAN THAN ANY DEVELOPMENT WE'VE EVER HAD IN PALM BAY.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE CP 4020 22.

OKAY. BY MR. WEINBERG SECOND BY MR. BOEREMA OWN FAVOR.

I. HOST.

TASTY. 1620 23 MR. ANDERSON.

ALL RIGHT. FOR OUR SECOND CASE TONIGHT, WE HAVE DT 16 DASH 2023, A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE APPLICANT FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY, SPECIFICALLY THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

IT IS A CITYWIDE AMENDMENT, AND THE AMENDED SECTION IS TO PALM BAY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

CHAPTER 185 GENERAL PROVISIONS SECTION ONE 85.006.

TO ADD LANGUAGE ON ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

THE REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY TO ADD INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE FEES FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND RELATE THEM TO A MOBILE HOME TYPE FEE STRUCTURING.

THAT IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE DEFINITION THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TONIGHT AS A REVISION TO THE CURRENT ONE IN PLACE.

SO IT'S TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY LEVEL.

WE IDENTIFIED THAT MOBILE HOME WAS MOST CONGRUENT WITH THIS.

SO WITH THAT, THE PURPOSE IS TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR AND CLEAR DEFINITION AND INTENT TO BUILD ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN THE JURISDICTIONAL LIMITS OF THE CITY AND TO ADD MORE LANGUAGE FOR CLARITY PURPOSES TO THE LAND USE AND ZONING REGULATIONS ON ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT APPLICATIONS.

CASE 1620 23 DOES MEET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT REQUEST AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS TEXTUAL AMENDMENT.

WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

MR. ANDERSON BOARD.

I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

MR. ANDERSON, WHAT IS THE CONTEXT THAT CAME UP THAT DISPLAYED THIS ISSUE AND AND LED TO US KIND OF FIGURING OUT THAT THERE'S A HOLE AND THAT WE NEED TO FILL IT.

I DO NOT KNOW THE ENTIRE PARAMETER, SO I'LL DEFER TO ALEX.

IT DOES BELIEVE. I BELIEVE SHE DOES KNOW FROM HER RESPONSE.

SO IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT IF YOU HAD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.

S FILING STRUCTURE FOR HAVING TO PAY.

IS THERE ANY EXAMPLE OF A UNIT THAT WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY THAT MONEY THAT SOMEONE WOULD BUILD ON THEIR PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF A SINGLE FAMILY, OBVIOUSLY GETTING SINGLE FAMILY IMPACT FEES.

AT THIS POINT, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, WE HAVE NOW SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY AND MOBILE HOME.

AND WITH THE MOBILE HOME THAT WOULD BE OVERSHADOWING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS WELL.

AND THEN COMMERCIAL IMPACT FEES, OF COURSE, BUT THAT'S SEPARATE INDUSTRIAL.

THIS IS SOMEONE AFTER THIS IS PASSED, SOMEONE CAN CAN ERECT A ACCESSORY DWELLING STRUCTURE ON THEIR SINGLE FAMILY.

I'M GONNA CALL IT A NORMAL PALM BAY LOT.

RATE YOUR LITTLE QUARTER ACRE, WHATEVER DEALS OR MORE PLATTED NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CAN PUT UP AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, BUT THEIR MOTHER IN LAW IN THERE THEY CAN RUN PLUMBING TO IT, ELECTRIC TO IT, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

AS LONG AS IT FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES CAN'T BE BIGGER THAN YOU'RE UNDER AIR SPACE IN YOUR HOUSE.

AND ALL THIS, SOMEONE CAN LIVE IN THERE AND THERE WON'T BE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES TO THAT PROPERTY.

THERE WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL MOBILE HOME IMPACT FEE FOR THE ERECTION OF IT.

SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL FEE, BUT IT'S A LESSER FEE THAN LESSENING SINGLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS CORRECT.

UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE A GLORIFIED SHED IS NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF LOGIC THAT COMES HERE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME THROUGH THAT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. FORCE MISCHIEF.

SO WILL THIS BE LIMITED TO CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS? CERTAIN AREAS OF BAY.

WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE LIMITATION PER THIS AMENDMENT, SO IT IS CURRENTLY ALREADY LIMITED TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS INSIDE OF THE CITY, WHICH ARE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

SO IT WOULD BE THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS THAT DO ALLOW FOR IT CURRENTLY ARE TWO FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILIES DO NOT CURRENTLY ALLOW FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

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BUT WE WE MAINTAIN THAT THAT PRIORITY SO FAR BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING TO LOOK INTO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN THE FUTURE FURTHER.

BUT WE RECOGNIZE AN ISSUE THAT WAS BEING INCURRED BY OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS IN A MORE EXPEDIENT FASHION.

THIS IS TO HELP.

THE CURRENT RESIDENCE WAS JUST TO DETER.

THE RESIDENTS FROM WANTING AN IN-LAW TO MOVE NEXT TO THEM AND AN ACCESSORY BUILDING HELP DEFINITELY HELP.

IT REDUCES THE OVERALL FEES.

WELL, NOW I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO LIVE NEXT TO THEM NECESSARILY.

SORRY IF THAT'S THAT'S A QUESTION.

BUT NO, THE INTENT BEHIND IT IS TO HELP THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS BE ABLE TO COME INTO FRUITION, WHICH ARE LARGELY ASSOCIATED WITH HELPING TO DIVERSIFY HOUSING STOCK.

WHO LIVES IN THEM. I WE HAVE NOT REGULATED THAT SO SO WE WILL NOT SEE THIS BECOMING A.

SOMEWHAT LIKE LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE BUILDING GOING ON.

SO WE'RE DOING WE DON'T FORESEE THIS BECOMING A MORE OF A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE WITH PEOPLE MAKING THAT DECISION NOW TO JUST PUT UP AN ACCESSORY BUILDING NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE, NEXT TO THEIR GARAGE SO THAT THE THE 18 YEAR OLD THAT CAN'T GET ALONG IN THE HOUSE NOW HAS TO BE PUT OUTSIDE.

SURE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO JUST TO REITERATE, WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANY OF THE ACTUAL REGULATIONS CURRENTLY FOR IT OUTSIDE OF THE THE FEE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO ALL THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WERE IN PLACE, WHICH WOULD TELL YOU HOW YOU HAVE TO DESIGN IT, WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE, WHETHER YOU CAN FIT IT ON YOUR PROPERTY, ALL OF THAT IS STILL IN PLACE ALREADY.

WE'RE JUST PUTTING A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM THAT WAS REALLY JUST INCORRECTLY ADOPTED UNFORTUNATELY A WHILE AGO AND NOT ACTUALLY ADOPTED BUT UTILIZED.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADOPT THE CORRECT FEE TO GO FORWARD, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE REVISITING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, ESPECIALLY AFTER OUR IF WE DO ADOPT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS LOOKING INTO STATUTORY RATIONALE FOR WHY WE MIGHT NEED TO ALTER THIS CODE.

SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ADOPTING A FEE.

I HAVE A SONG ON.

FIVE UNDER ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

BE NO LESS THAN 200 SQUARE FEET OF AIR CONDITIONED AND NO MORE 800 SQUARE FEET.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG THE PROPERTY, HOW BIG THE OTHER THE REGULAR HOUSE IS, THEY'RE LIMITED TO 800 SQUARE FOOT.

AND THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

YES. SO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NECESSARILY ADDRESSED.

WE ARE, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, LOOKING TO ADOPT THINGS IN THE FUTURE AND RECOGNIZE THAT OTHER PROPERTIES SUCH AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL MAY BENEFIT FOR FROM HAVING LARGER ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. WE'RE ACTUALLY REVISITING THAT IN A DIFFERENT PORTION OF OUR CODE THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WHICH WAS ABOUT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON PROPERTIES RELATED TO BARNS AND SO FORTH.

SO WITH THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE STAFF'S AGENDA.

IF NOT COMING IN MARCH, IT WILL BE BY APRIL.

ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT SEPARATELY HANDLED BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE MORE COMPREHENSIVE ON THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH A NEW TOPIC.

AND SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE WIDESPREAD ACROSS MORE ZONING DISTRICTS, WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THEIR IMPACTS.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, YOU'LL SEE REGULATIONS CURRENTLY IN PLACE THERE FOR THEM REQUIRING ONE SPACE.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT TYPE OF APPEAL TO OVER PARK, BUT ALSO ENSURE THERE IS PARKING FOR THEM SO PEOPLE AREN'T PARKING ON THE GRASS OR IN THE STREETS AND SO FORTH.

SO WE HAVE TO JUST BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THESE NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE REALLY POSING FOR IMPACTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WELL AS ALIGN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF ADOPTED.

WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF LOWERING THESE FEES FROM.

REGULAR STRUCTURE TO A MOBILE HOME.

I UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I CAN LOOK IT UP AND GET BACK TO YOU IN A FEW MOMENTS, THOUGH, IF THAT IS BENEFICIAL.

LOWERING. THE REASONING BEHIND LOWERING THEM IS BECAUSE THE OVERALL IMPACT OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS NOT GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY IN CONCERT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. FOR INSTANCE, AS WE HAD MENTIONED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE 2 TO 800 SQUARE FEET IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AT MINIMUM, THROUGH MOST OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS IS 1200.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE IN THE TYPES OF UTILITIES AND SO FORTH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRING ON THAT SITE.

AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALREADY GOING TO BE UTILITIES, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE METERED, WILL REALLY SUBSTANTIALLY INFLUENCE THE COSTS THAT THE CITY HAS TO BEAR.

SO FOR US TO HAVE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, THE OVERALL COST ON THE CITY OR IN THIS CASE BENEFIT FROM GETTING THE IMPACT FEES IS SUBSTANTIAL AND OF

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COMFORT ENOUGH FOR CITY MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO IDENTIFY MOBILE HOMES TO BE MORE OF AN ACCEPTABLE CHARGE.

IT WAS FELT THAT A SINGLE FAMILY CHARGE WAS JUST AN OVERCHARGE.

IF FOLLOW UP TO THE QUESTION.

THE ACCESSORY BUILDING IS GOING TO BE.

ARE DETERMINED BY THE SIZE OF THE LOT BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS AND ONLY BUILD SO BIG OF AN ACCESSORY BUILDING AND A QUARTER ACRE LOT.

SO IT IS A REGULATED HOW MANY SQUARE FEET.

RIGHT. OF COURSE. SO THAT'S WHY THERE IS A SQUARE FOOTAGE ORIGINALLY IN PLACE.

BUT WHAT MISS JORDAN WAS REFERRING TO IS FOR THE LARGER LOTS, THAT BECOMES LESS OF AN ISSUE TO AN EXTENT.

SO THERE'S A WAY TO AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THERE'S A DIFFERENT PORTION OF OUR CODE WE'RE LOOKING AT TO ADJUST FOR THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS FOR A SECTION OF ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND THEN THE ONES THAT HAVE LARGER LANDSCAPES COULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW FOR LARGER ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE MORE CONGRUENT WITH THEIR PROPERTY SIZE.

SO IF YOU HAD TWO LOTS, YOU CAN GO TO THE 800 SQUARE FEET.

I WOULD IMAGINE. A SIZE OF TWO LOTS.

YEAH. IT JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS ARE FOR.

AND ONLY LOOKING AT.

ALL RIGHT. OR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? BRATTON. BEAVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I WASN'T GOING TO TALK ON THIS ONE, BUT IT'S A PRESENTATION WAS BEING PRESENTED.

IT GENERATED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THIS ONE WAS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

SO IF IT'S. AND THEN I HEARD IN THE COMMENTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER STRUCTURES FOR CALCULATION, I.E.

LIKE A PERSON LIKE MYSELF, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF HERE.

I HAVE A BARN, I HAVE A CHICKEN COOP, AND I HAVE TOOL SHEDS OR THOSE GOING TO BE CALCULATED INTO MY OVERALL ACCESSORY DWELLING.

BECAUSE AT 70 YEARS OLD, I'M EVENTUALLY THINKING THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE ONE OF MY GRANDKIDS LIVING ON THE FARM WITH ME, AND I DON'T WANT THEM IN THE BEDROOM WITH MY WIFE AND I. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN YOU LET ME KNOW IF IT'S ACCESSORY DWELLING OR AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO COME IN INTO PLAY WITH THE BARN, THE CHICKEN COOP AND TOOL SHED.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THE BARN TOOL SHED AND SO FORTH, THOSE WILL BE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

SO THOSE WOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY.

THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS JUST ALLOWED TO BE 208 HUNDRED.

BUT YOU CAN HAVE UP TO I BELIEVE IT IS HALF.

AND THEN PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK FOR YOU HALF THE SIZE.

WE'RE UP TO THE SAME SIZE OF YOUR HOUSING PRODUCT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR VARIETY OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SEEING NONE OR IS NOW CLOSED CASES BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD? OR DO I HAVE A MOTION? CHAIR I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE RT OR RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.

CASE RT 16 2023 PLEASE BY MR. OLSZEWSKI AND BY MR. WEINBERG ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

CASE, MR. ANDERSON.

CP THREE 2023.

GOOD EVENING. I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE AND TELL YOU HOW EXCITED WE ARE TO LOOK OVER OUR NEW PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME NOW, SO WE'RE EXCITED THIS EVENING TO ACTUALLY HAVE OUR CONSULTANT CHRIS DOHERTY PRESENT IT TO YOU AND AND HE WILL BE UP HERE IN JUST A SECOND TO GO OVER ALL OF THE POINTS THAT STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD ALONG WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKSHOPS TO BRING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

WONDERFUL. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

READY TO GO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK AGAIN.

THIS IS A A GREAT CULMINATION OF THE VISIONING THAT WE DID AND THAT STARTED WITH THE EAR BASED AMENDMENTS BACK IN 2020 AND 2021.

SO THIS IS THIS IS A REMARKABLE.

A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING.

WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THE THE SPA CATEGORY THAT WAS CREATED.

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SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO MY PRESENTATION AGAIN.

CHRIS DOUGHERTY WITH INSPIRE.

YOU'LL YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO SAMMI.

DON'T WORRY. EVERYTHING'S FINE WITH THEM.

WE ACQUIRED THE PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PRACTICE AT SAMMY.

SO WE ARE NOW IN SPIRE PLACE MAKING COLLECTIVE SAVE SAME TEAM, JUST A DIFFERENT NAME ABOVE THE DOOR.

SO I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING THERE.

SO AS I MENTIONED, LET ME SEE HERE.

ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF HOW WE GOT HERE.

GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE SCOPE, THE THE ELEMENTS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BRIEF OVERVIEW OF ALL THE WONDERFUL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE WE'VE DONE TO DATE.

AND THEN REALLY DIG INTO THOSE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENTS AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS AS WELL.

AS I MENTIONED, SAME GREAT TEAM.

JUST A DIFFERENT NAME.

AS I ALLUDED TO BEFORE, THIS ALL STARTED WITH THE EAR BASED AMENDMENTS.

SO WE HAD TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE COMP PLAN TO ADDRESS STATUTORY CHANGES OVER THE YEARS SO THAT IT HAD BEEN SOMEWHAT NEGLECTED BY ABOUT TEN YEARS OR SO.

WE GOT THOSE TAKEN CARE OF.

THE STATE WAS OKAY WITH THAT.

OF COURSE, THEY YOU KNOW, THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH VISIONING.

AND UNDER THE YEAR BASED PROCESS, YOU DON'T REALLY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS, WHICH IS WHY WE DID IT BEFORE OUR YEAR DEADLINE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMING ISSUE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO TO AVOID HAVING THAT 12 MONTHS DEADLINE TO TO DO VISIONING AND A FULL COMP PLAN UPDATE.

SO WE NOW WE AFFORDED OURSELVES BASICALLY AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEEDED TO GET THIS DONE AND WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO TAKE A LOT.

SO YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T HAVE A STRIPE THROUGH AN UNDERLINED VERSION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT IS BECAUSE IF WE MOVE SO MANY OF THE POLICIES AND CHANGED A LOT OF THE OBJECTIVES, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A REPEAL AND REPLACE KIND OF DEAL.

NOW, WE DID SAVE A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL TEXT, BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO TRACK WHERE ALL THE CHANGES OCCURRED.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOU'RE SEEING KIND OF THIS BRAND NEW ELEMENT.

BUT AGAIN, WE KEPT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD, AND THE SPA IS KIND OF A REFLECTION OF THAT.

AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

SO THIS DIAGRAM SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO YOU FOLKS.

THIS WAS PART OF THE VISIONING.

TOOK US ABOUT 12 MONTHS TO GET THROUGH A FULL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND THEN DEVELOP THESE CATEGORIES, THESE THEMES THAT POPPED UP DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.

SO STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAD, PLACEMAKING HOUSING, CITY INVESTMENTS, ADVANCING EQUITY AND ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY, THOSE WERE THOSE BIG, BROAD CATEGORIES.

NOW, NOT EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH THESE CATEGORIES OR THE STRATEGIES THAT FELL UNDERNEATH THOSE CATEGORIES WERE MEANT TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE COMP PLAN NECESSARILY, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE.

SO HERE YOU GO. THIS THIS WAS PART OF THAT BROCHURE THAT CAME WITH YOUR VISION PLAN.

ESSENTIALLY, THE VISIONING WAS THE KICKOFF TO THE FULL COMP PLAN UPDATE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, NOT EVERYTHING IS BEING IMPLEMENTED IN THE PLAN, BUT MOST THINGS ARE.

OK. SO WHAT'S THE SCOPE? AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT HAD BEEN MANY, MANY YEARS ACTUALLY.

WAS IT 2001 TO 2011? THAT WAS THE PLANNING HORIZON BEFORE WE WE ADJUSTED THE PLAN BASED ON THE EOR BASED AMENDMENTS AND THEN WENT IN AND HAD TO REALLY CLEAN UP ALL THE DATA AND ANALYSIS, UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CITY CITY IS AT TODAY WITH ALL THE PLANNING OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES, AND THEN MAKE SURE MAKE SURE WE PLAN FOR THE APPROPRIATE POPULATION DEMAND AND THEN IMPLEMENT THAT VISION.

AS I MENTIONED, ALL BY ALL, WHILE WE'RE MAKING SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH STATUTES AND FOCUSING ON IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FOLKS HERE IN PALM BAY, AS WELL AS PROVIDING THE FOUNDATION FOR THE LDC, WHICH WILL BE THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROCESS.

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OK YOUR COMP PLAN ELEMENTS SEEING THESE NUMEROUS TIMES.

WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE TONIGHT.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER ELEMENTS.

THOSE ARE FORTHCOMING AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED.

SO JUST A QUICK, BRIEF OVERVIEW.

WE HAD MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.

WE SHOW FIVE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS UP THERE.

REALLY, THE VISIONING HAD THREE WORKSHOPS IN PART OF THE COMP PLAN WERE TWO WORKSHOPS, BUT THEY, THEY WERE LIKE A SERIES OF FIVE.

IF IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CONTENT THAT WE ADDRESSED AT EACH ONE OF THOSE WORKSHOPS.

BUILD BUILT OFF EACH OTHER.

AND WE HAD A PROJECT WEBSITE, ACTUALLY, WE HAD A A PROJECT WEBSITE FOR THE VISIONING AND A PROJECT WEBSITE FOR THE COMP PLAN UPDATES.

SO WE RECEIVED A LOT OF WONDERFUL INPUT ON BOTH OF THOSE WEBSITES AND ARE STILL I THINK WE'RE STILL GETTING INPUT TODAY.

HERE ARE THE NUMBERS. THIS IS JUST FOR THE COMP PLAN UPDATE WEBSITE.

SO NEARLY 9000 VISITS TO THE SITE, 118 SURVEY RESPONSES, 167 DOWNLOADS.

THOSE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT WE PROVIDE ON THE SITE FOR FOLKS TO DOWNLOAD THE VISIONING DOCUMENT THE BROCHURE.

OTHER ITEMS WORKSHOP ATTENDEES 314 193 WEBSITE COMMENTS.

164 ACTIVITY RESPONSES.

SO PRETTY GOOD.

NOW THINK AGAIN.

THIS IS JUST THE WEBSITE ALONE.

WE HAVE THE WORKSHOPS, THE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS.

THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, SO WE DIDN'T SOLELY FOCUS ON ONE ELEMENT OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAN.

THIS IS REALLY A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE POSSIBLY COULD AND ENGAGE WITH AS MANY FOLKS THAT WE COULD AS WELL. OKAY.

SO SOME OF THE.

THIS IS A COLLAGE OF PICTURES OF THE ENGAGEMENTS.

SO WE HAD MULTIPLE EXERCISES.

I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL FOLKS HERE IN THE ROOM THAT PARTICIPATED IN A LOT OF THOSE.

THIS JUST SHOWS YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT EXERCISES WE WENT THROUGH AND THEN SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT CAME UP.

SO SUSTAINABILITY COMPATIBILITY ANNEXATIONS CHARACTER CENTERS OF ACTIVITY, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, POPULATION GROWTH.

I MEAN, ALL OF THIS STUFF SHOWED UP QUITE A BIT AND PRETTY FREQUENTLY AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO. WHAT YOU'LL SEE TODAY IN THE FUTURE.

LAND USE ELEMENTS GOING TO LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY.

WE FOCUSED ON.

THE CLARITY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT THAT MADE SURE THE TEXT WAS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT.

HE WE HAD TO MAKE REVISIONS NOT ONLY TO THE TEXT OF THE FLU, BUT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE REVISED FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.

AND THEN WE HAD TO MAKE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS, NOT NECESSARILY CHANGING THE COLORS ON THE MAP MORE SO THE CATEGORIES IN THE LEGEND.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE NEW PLANNING INITIATIVES AND THEN POLICIES ADDRESSING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND REFINEMENTS TO THAT.

SO AGAIN, I'LL BE A LITTLE REDUNDANT HERE.

WE DELETED REDUNDANCIES.

OUTDATED AND CONFLICTING LANGUAGE.

WE CREATED A MORE.

I GUESS, EASY TO DIGEST FORMAT.

THE NUMBERING SYSTEM WAS A BIT OF A MESS.

YOU KNOW, IT IT DIDN'T LINE UP FOR WHATEVER REASON.

I THINK IT WAS OVER YEARS OF INCREMENTAL AMENDMENTS, JUST THE NUMBERING SYSTEM GOT THROWN OFF.

AND CONSISTENCY, AS I MENTIONED, AND THEN CONSOLIDATING THOSE PARCEL SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.

PUTTING IT INTO A EASY TO READ TABLE.

A LOT OF THOSE ORDINANCES WERE BURIED IN THE POLICIES AND REALLY DIFFICULT TO TEASE OUT AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT.

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THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGIES HERE.

THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES, CONSOLIDATED ALL OF THAT TEXT AND PUT IT INTO AN EASY TO FOLLOW TABLE.

SO ONE, YOU CAN SEE THE PURPOSE OF THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, THOSE TYPICAL USES THAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, AND THEN THE DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES.

THIS WAS A HUGE STEP.

THERE WAS A LOT OF.

TEXT IN YOUR PLAN EITHER IT WASN'T REAL CLEAR OR IT WAS IT DIDN'T REALLY GIVE US A CLEAR INDICATION OF WHAT THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY RUNS WAS.

EXCUSE ME. GETTING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD AND I'LL COME BACK TO THIS.

BUT REFERRING TO THE SPORES.

SO WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT WERE THESE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT WERE WERE NOT CATEGORIES, THEY WERE DEVELOPMENTS. AND SO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IS WHAT WE CREATED THE SPECIAL PLANNING AREAS AS.

SO WE DIDN'T TAKE AWAY ANY OF THE ENTITLEMENTS.

AND TO ADDRESS THE I GUESS THE THE CHICKEN AND EGG ISSUE WITH MICCO PARK VILLAGE TONIGHT, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THE TEXT TODAY.

WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PLAN TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT AMENDMENT.

SO LET'S PRESERVE THIS.

LET'S SEE WHERE THE MIXED USE APPLICATION, SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.

WE DID WE DID DISCUSS THAT.

AS AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE TEXT AMENDMENTS WITH STAFF.

WE HAVE A TABLE HERE.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A BLOWN UP VERSION OF THIS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THIS SHOWS THE TRANSITION FROM THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES TO THE NEW OR PROPOSED CATEGORIES.

THIS SHOWS YOU THE MAP TODAY.

NO. REAL CHANGES TO THE COLOR.

AGAIN, IT'S WHAT'S IN THE LEGEND.

SO NEW CATEGORY NAMES FOR SOME OF THOSE.

AND NEW DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES.

UM. I DO WANT TO MENTION THERE ARE TWO CATEGORIES THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE LEGEND, AND THEY'RE SHOWN IN THE TABLE.

EXCUSE ME. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

I BELIEVE IT'S THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE ARE NOT ON THE MAP.

SO THOSE DON'T THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN APPLIED YET.

THEY'RE JUST NEW CATEGORIES READY FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND USE THOSE UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF STAFF.

THESE ARE THE NEW MIXED USE CATEGORIES THAT ARE JUST MENTIONED.

SO NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE TYPE USES AND BUILDING HEIGHTS.

SO YOU'VE KIND OF GOT THAT THREE STORY MIXED USE PRODUCT ON THE LEFT, THEN COMMUNITY MIXED USE, GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENSE AND DENSE.

SO MAYBE THAT'S THE THE 4 TO 5 STORIES AND THEN URBAN MIXED USE.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THOSE ACTIVITY CENTERS LIKE IT WAS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING AT THE MITCHELL PARK VILLAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, LOOKING TO CREATE MORE ACTIVITY IN THIS URBAN MIXED USE.

DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

AND AGAIN, ALL THIS CAME UP DURING THE VISIONING.

SO A NEED FOR AN ACTIVITY CENTER, WHETHER IT BE OUT AT BAYFRONT CRA AREA OR DOWN AT THE EMERALD LAKES VILLAGE PARK VILLAGE AREA AS WELL.

OK. SO SOME OF THE NEW TERMINOLOGY THAT YOU'LL SEE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE NEW PLANNING INITIATIVES DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE BAYFRONT AREA AS WELL AS THE COMPOUND.

THESE ARE THINGS, AGAIN, THAT CAME UP MULTIPLE TIMES.

NOW THE BAYFRONT CRA, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THAT'S GOING TO SUNSET.

REALLY, IT'S FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IT'S KIND OF GONE AWAY.

THEY'RE REALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.

BUT WE WANT TO PRESERVE SOME OF THOSE IDEAS FROM THAT CRA PLAN AND DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT AREA.

AND THEN THE COMPOUND.

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WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T GOING TO SOLVE THE COMPOUND ISSUES THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME.

AND IT NEEDS SPECIAL ATTENTION.

SO WE FELT STRONGLY ABOUT INCLUDING THAT IN THE IN THE PLAN AND THEN PROVIDING FOR A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO YOUR CULTURAL HERITAGE.

AND PRESERVATION REALLY ISN'T MUCH IN THE PLAN TODAY TO EVEN ADDRESS THAT.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, A REALLY BIG INITIATIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC INDUSTRY CLUSTERS, COORDINATION WITH ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.

CREATING AN INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. PROTECTING INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE CITY.

YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL HERE.

AND WE DO NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, MAKE COMMITMENTS TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE JOB CREATING LAND USES IN THIS CITY.

AND THEN CREATING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

VERY IMPORTANT.

WE CAN'T REALLY DO ALL OF THIS WITHOUT HAVING A PLAN AND HAVING SOMEBODY PUSHING THAT PLAN AND TAKING CARE OF THE DAY TO DAY ASPECTS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH YOUR CITY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF JUST CARRYING THAT FORWARD.

OK EQUITY.

SO THIS WAS AGAIN ANOTHER ISSUE THAT AROSE DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.

HERE WE'RE JUST BRINGING TO LIGHT IDEAS FOR CREATING CRITERIA.

WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING LAND USES.

PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, MAKING SURE IT'S AN INCLUSIVE PROCESS, AND THEN LOOKING AT A STUDY TO ELIMINATE BARRIERS TO ACCESSING FRESH FOODS.

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFINEMENTS FOR PWDS.

AND THERE'S BEEN A.

AT A RELIANCE ON PADS HERE IN THE CITY.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS OVER TIME, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE GETS STALE.

IT'S NOT MODERN.

SO DEVELOPERS THINK, HEY, WE CAN'T DO WHAT WHAT THE MARKETPLACE NEEDS, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A PAD.

SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE FOR ANY REAL PREDICTABILITY FOR ANYBODY HERE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PAD SAYS? YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THAT ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE IN YOUR HAND TO TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PROVIDE FOR.

SO. WHAT WE DID HERE IS CREATE MORE, MORE STRINGENT CRITERIA TO TO FORCE INNOVATION, SUPERIOR DEVELOPMENT. AND A LOT OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT IS FORCING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE A HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCT FOR PALM BAY THAT'S PART OF THE PLACEMAKING.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED HERE.

SO TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE GDC REMNANTS THAT WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH TODAY, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN TONIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO MOVE BEYOND THAT BY FORCING DEVELOPMENT TO PAY THEIR OWN OWN WAY AND AND PROVIDE A HIGHER QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO COMPATIBILITY ADDRESSING THAT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

EXCUSE ME. AND THEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE INNOVATIONS INCORPORATING SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THIS IS PART OF THE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS OF THE CITY THAT WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND THEN REQUIRING LEVEL OF SERVICE CONSIDERATIONS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PLAN ORIGINALLY, BUT SOMEWHAT NEGLECTED. TERMS OF THE HEARING PROCESS.

WE'RE HERE TODAY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTION IN APRIL.

SO WE'LL HAVE OUR TRANSMITTAL HEARING ON THE 16TH AND THEN.

WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 30 DAYS FOR STATE REVIEW.

HOPEFULLY THERE WON'T BE ANY REAL SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTS.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE, BUT WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THE COMMENTS BACK FROM THE STATE REVIEW

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AGENCIES. AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS WILL BE COMING TO YOU VERY SOON.

SO STAY TUNED FOR THOSE.

I DO HAVE A FEW ADDITIONAL SLIDES.

THERE'S THIS TABLE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU HAVE THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS, IF YOU WILL.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S IN THE DATA AND ANALYSIS PORTION OF THE PLAN.

AND THEN THIS IS THE CARRYING CAPACITY.

I WON'T GO INTO THIS UNLESS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS.

THIS BASICALLY SHOWS YOU HOW MANY UNITS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE COULD EXPECT BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO. WITH THAT.

THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

ORDER. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.

VERY BRIEFLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO INQUIRE.

THE VISION YEAR CHANGED AT SOME POINT TO 2045 FROM 2040.

WHEN DID THAT CHANGE AND WHY? SO IT WENT FROM 2045 TO 2050, RIGHT? I KNOW. 2042.

2045. RIGHT.

RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE WHEN WHEN THE CITY WENT OUT TO RFP.

IT SAID 2040 IN THE RFP.

AND SO WE CARRIED THAT FORWARD AND REALIZE THAT REALLY YOU WANT TO YOU NEED TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN ANYWAY, AND THAT'S 2045.

RIGHT NOW THEY ARE WORKING ON THE 2050 PLAN, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE READY.

YOU KNOW, DURING THIS PROCESS.

SO YOU'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TO FOLLOW THAT.

AND IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO ALIGN YOUR PLAN WITH THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN OF THE TPO.

THAT'S JUST. THAT'S.

THAT'S GOOD PLANNING PRACTICE.

SO GOOD CATCH.

BUT YES, SO IT WAS A REMNANT FROM THE ORIGINAL RFP BACK IN 2019.

I THINK BACK WHEN THAT WAS ISSUED, I THINK WE THOUGHT WE WERE PROBABLY GOING TO BE FURTHER ALONG.

BUT WE DID KNOW THAT THE VISIONING WAS GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST 12 MONTHS.

SO. HERE WE ARE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE.

JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS SOME PLAN OUT THERE THAT A CITIZEN COULD LOOK AT THAT HAS TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS FOR 2045? YOU SAID THE TPO. SO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, THEY ALREADY HAVE A 2045 PLAN THAT EXISTS.

YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO REFERENCE THAT AND THEN TRY TO STAY IN TUNE WITH IT.

AND YOU SAY 2050 IS ON THE HORIZON? CORRECT? CORRECT.

I'D LOVE HELP. GET MY HANDS ON THAT.

YOU GUYS HELP ME OUT WITH IT OFFLINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS KIND OF THAT IT'S LIKE A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE HTTP.

THAT'S ANOTHER PLAN THAT KIND OF TAKES THE LONG RANGE PLAN AND BOILS IT DOWN TO THE NEXT STEPS AND THE PRIORITIES.

SO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

SIR. WAS JUST FOR.

JUST FOR GENERAL INFORMATION.

YOU CAN GET A COPY OF THE THE RTP AND THE TIP FROM THE SPACE COAST BOSS WEBSITE AND ACTUALLY.

OH, YES, YES. PRINT IT OUT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. JUST ONE QUESTION.

WHERE CAN WE GET A HARD COPY OF THIS OF THE.

THE DATA ANALYSIS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.

YEAH, I THINK.

HAVE THOSE HERE IF YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ON ME.

IT HAPPENED IN YOUR POCKET. I HAVE MY LAPTOP IF WE WANTED TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS.

SO. YOU DON'T HAVE IT NOW, JESSE.

I'LL BE SEEING YOU.

DON'T HAVE THIS PRESENTATION.

WE ONLY HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT IN OUR PACKET.

AND. IT'S IN THE PACKET.

I WANT TO GET A HARD COPY OF IT.

THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION.

SO WE DID GIVE YOU A CLEAN VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT.

WHEN WE PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE, THE WHOLE THING WILL BE UNDERLINED MEANING NEW TEXT TO THE PLAN.

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SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.

YOU ARE NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ROBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

BUT WHEN IT WHEN THE NEW COMPLAINT IS BEING PRESENTED, IT REFERS TO AN ORDINANCE UNDER SB NUMBER.

NUMBER FOUR, SPA NUMBER FOUR, IT JUST SAYS REFER TO ORDINANCE 20 1062.

THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. IT'S ON SECOND TO THE LAST PAGE OR SOMETHING OF IT.

SO MY QUESTION WAS, IF WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO REVIEW THIS, HOW MANY OF THE BOARD ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE WHAT.

ORDINANCE 20 1062 ACTUALLY HAD IN IT? AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE YOU JUST VOTED ON CHANGING ON THE MECO ROAD.

THAT'S WHERE THIS IS LOCATED AT.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REFERS TO IT, BUT ONLY IN NUMBER ONLY.

SO YOU DON'T GET A SEE WHAT WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT.

AND THAT'S WHERE I HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT.

SO IT REFERS TO ORDINANCE 20 1062, WHICH BY THE WAY, HAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT BILL BRATTON PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE CARRIED OVER FROM THAT ORDINANCE INTO THE NEW IF IT EVER GETS PASSED OR WHATEVER'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON MICHAEL PRESERVE.

I MEAN, ON THE MICO DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS IT, APEX OR A.

ASHTON, THANK YOU.

WHEN IT GETS INTO INTO ASHTON DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, THOUGH, IS THE FACT THAT 1062 ALSO CONTAINS THE PORTION THAT THEY'RE TALKING AND BEING PRESENTED FOR.

THIS GOING TO BE IN MARCH, WHICH IS THE NORTH SECTION OF MEIKO ROAD COMING DOWN FOR THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

YET I HEARD TONIGHT, Y'ALL, WELL, THIS ONE IS JUST GOING TO SUPERSEDE THAT WHEN THE NEW ONE IS GOING TO SUPERSEDE THIS ONE.

BUT THE ELEMENTS OF ONE IS CURRENT AND PERTAINING TO THE OTHER.

THAT'S SO IT'S IT'S IT'S HARD WAY TO GO UNLESS YOU HAVE THEM BOTH IN FRONT OF YOU.

RIGHT. SO LIKE I SAY, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THAT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF IT FINDING A WAY TO GET CARRIED OVER.

I MEAN, STUFF FOR SUSTAINABILITY DEVELOPMENTS.

THERE WAS WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING FROM THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF PRESERVE TO THOUSANDS OF ACRE PRESERVE.

BUT IT'S GOT CROSS ALL THAT BARRIER THAT THEY JUST PUT IN.

YET THE PREVIOUS ONE HAS THAT PROTECTION IN IT UNDER SUSTAINABILITY.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I DIDN'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE ANY OF THEIR TALKS.

SO I'M JUST I'M JUST BEING PICKY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS COMP PLAN I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE TWO YEARS IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD SAW THAT IN THERE.

SO THAT WAS YOUR GUIDELINE.

26 TO 2 WAS YOUR GUIDELINE.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET A REVIEW.

IT I HAD TO GO TO THE CITY CLERK.

GET THE DOWNLOAD SO I COULD REVIEW IT AND SEE WHAT WAS IN THERE.

AND I KNOW, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE SAME THING IS NOT GOING TO BE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TOMORROW NIGHT.

AND IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON.

I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A NICE IDEA.

OTHERWISE, WE DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THE STATEMENT OF, WELL, WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT TO SEE WHAT'S IN IT.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO BY THAT PROCESS.

IT'S JUST A BAD POLICY TO DO IT THAT WAY.

THAT BEING SAID.

I KNOW IT WAS A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERFECT ANSWER.

BUT I'VE WATCHED OVER THE YEARS COMPREHENSIVE AND PLANNED FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.

IT JUST MEANS, WELL, WELL, WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT.

WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT. WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT.

SO THE CITY WAS NOT FOLLOWING THE COMP PLAN.

AND I HOPE THAT WITH THE NEW COMP PLAN BEING APPROVED, WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO BE.

IT WILL KIND IT'LL KIND OF STICK TO THE COMP PLAN AND JUST SAYING, WELL, THIS DEVELOPER'S COMING IN AND HERE'S A SHINY BRASS RING, LET'S DO IT.

OK. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS ALSO KIND OF STRANGE THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTS, I NEVER NOTICED IT BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY STICKER, ANY STICKERS PLACED ON THE MICO ROAD PRESERVE WHERE PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A PRIORITY TO BE FOCUSING IN.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY STICKERS ON THAT.

SO CITY'S INVOLVEMENT IN IT DIDN'T SHOW ANYTHING FOR THAT AREA YET.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE JUST PUT INTO THE FOCAL POINT FOR TONIGHT AND TOMORROW'S MEETINGS.

THAT BEING SAID, BETTER YOU THAN ME, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT, I DO HAVE A COPY WITH ME OF ORDINANCE 20 1062, IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT.

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THERE IS SOME GOOD STUFF IN IT, BUT IT'S IT'S THICK.

THANK YOU.

EVENING. PHILLIP CORCORAN, 1878 WYNBERG DRIVE.

I THINK ARDEN, DOCTOR ANDERSON, FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING ON IN JUNCTION WITH SO.

UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

THE APPLICATION FEE FOR A.

DEVELOPER COMING IN IS CAPPED AT 2000.

WHETHER IT'S 50 ACRES OR.

THOUSAND ACRES. AND WE ALL SPENT MAY 18TH AT BAYSIDE LAKES HIGH SCHOOL REVIEWING A PLAN THAT WAS NOT EVEN HALF BAKED.

SO OUR OUR TEAM HERE SPENT HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN THAT.

367 HOME DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WAS A WASTE OF CITY'S TIME AND RESOURCES.

I THINK THAT IF WE RAISED THE APPLICATION FEE FOR THESE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, MAYBE TO 25,000, WE COULD AVOID THE HALF BAKED PROPOSALS AND GET A REASONABLE THING LIKE WE SAW TONIGHT WITH ASHTON PARK.

IT'S REFRESHING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S AT LEAST SOME SOMEBODY PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO.

BUT THE OTHER THING IS, SINCE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF WORK AND THIS PLAN IS IS SUPPOSED TO LAST US TILL 2045, NOW IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ANY CHANGES TO THE FUTURE USE REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY, NOT JUST IN THIS COUNCIL BUT IN THE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE IF ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES, THEY HAVE BUILT HERE KNOWING WHAT WAS AROUND THEM AND WHAT WAS NEAR THEM.

AND IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT JUST WITH JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN HURT AND WILL GET HURT IN THAT SYSTEM.

SO THOSE ARE MY TWO SUGGESTIONS.

THANK YOU. AND THAT.

THIS IS BROUGHT BACK.

FORD FOR. MOTION TO APPROVE CP THREE 2023.

MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SECOND. QUESTION IN THE SECOND.

ON FAVRE, I POSED.

VERY. IN THE LAST CASE.

YEAH. JUST SOMETHING ELSE.

JUST AN FYI.

HOUSEKEEPING. YOU HAVE ONE VACANCY THAT HAS COME UP ON THE BOARD.

RAJ IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.

SO. SO JUST BE MINDFUL IF YOU DON'T SEE HER.

THAT IS WHY SO.

OK. FURTHER.

MEETING ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.